--- Log opened Mon Aug 01 00:00:23 2016 --- Day changed Mon Aug 01 2016 2016-08-01T00:00:23 < Rob235> still have one more led problem, layer1 of arms 2 and 5 alternate after each animation cycle 2016-08-01T00:01:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-01T00:02:05 < kakimir> http://ennuste.ilmailuliitto.fi/ this thing tells me if there is flyings tomorrow 2016-08-01T00:02:41 < kakimir> plane sinks 1m/s 2016-08-01T00:03:23 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-01T00:04:33 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-01T00:05:46 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T00:08:28 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-01T00:16:42 -!- mra90 [~Martin@5.10.7.148] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T00:16:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-01T00:38:50 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699704.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T00:41:26 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699576.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T00:41:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T01:29:08 < Rob235> mmm coffee 2016-08-01T01:41:32 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-08-01T01:58:55 < kakimir> there is 100% humidity in airfield.. no soarings tomorrow I tihnk? 2016-08-01T02:10:00 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T02:29:57 < ReadError> http://www.gearbest.com/rc-quadcopters/pp_363447.html 2016-08-01T02:30:06 < ReadError> looks like some dickstarter project 2016-08-01T02:30:54 < Rob235> damn 400 2016-08-01T02:40:05 < karlp> heh, tssop14 is cute for an l0 :) 2016-08-01T02:40:07 < Rob235> i need an electronics parts organizer of some sort... this is a mess 2016-08-01T02:42:20 < Sync> yeah karlp 2016-08-01T02:42:54 < karlp> is that the smallest? thers's a tssop20 f0, but is there a tssop14 tere? 2016-08-01T02:43:02 < karlp> (excluding the wlcsp parts) 2016-08-01T02:43:10 < karlp> so I guess smallest was a poor choice of words 2016-08-01T02:43:14 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-01T02:48:11 < ReadError> they have a 14 now? 2016-08-01T02:48:14 < ReadError> linky? 2016-08-01T02:48:27 < ReadError> sounds kawaii 2016-08-01T02:49:04 < karlp> the l011 that Shavik was talking about, don't remember seeing any PR for it, but yeah, ont heir website 2016-08-01T02:49:25 < karlp> given Shavik's comments, doesn't seem to be readily available however :) 2016-08-01T02:49:37 < Shavik> Doesn't appear so at least 2016-08-01T02:53:27 < Laurenceb__> kawaii waifu 2016-08-01T02:53:32 < Laurenceb__> desu desu desu 2016-08-01T02:53:41 < Laurenceb__> sage 2016-08-01T02:53:52 < karlp> notfunnylaurenceb.png 2016-08-01T02:54:38 < zyp> how many gpios does the tssop14 have? 2016-08-01T02:54:42 < Rob235> sucks when you get motivated to clean and you get halfway (the point where all the clutter is on the floor yet somewhat organized so putting it back will be easier) and you don't want to do it anymore :/ 2016-08-01T02:55:08 < zyp> gnd, vdd and nrst reserves three pins, if it has a boot0 that's another 2016-08-01T02:55:39 < zyp> sharing swd pins sounds annoying, so that leaves at most 8 gpios 2016-08-01T02:56:00 < Shavik> https://gyazo.com/cd6bfdde32dd880edf5b528a09245c75 This is the TSSOP20 pinout in Cube 2016-08-01T02:56:54 < Shavik> https://gyazo.com/983bac396f331c5d0411e5b1a800c8e7 This is it with UART, SPI, I2C enabled 2016-08-01T02:57:09 < zyp> I asked about the 14 now 2016-08-01T02:57:59 < Shavik> Hmm so if you use SWD, you lose SPI 2016-08-01T02:58:19 < Shavik> https://gyazo.com/5b1e684da3057caaef97d550a0790420 2016-08-01T02:58:23 < Shavik> That is the TSSOP14 2016-08-01T02:59:07 < zyp> ah, so it doesn't have boot0 2016-08-01T02:59:12 < Shavik> doesn't look like it 2016-08-01T02:59:38 < zyp> reasonable enough, I've always considered it a waste 2016-08-01T02:59:55 < zyp> I don't use the rom bootloader so I always just connect it to ground anyway 2016-08-01T03:00:29 * Shavik is afk a bit 2016-08-01T03:00:37 < zyp> so that's 9 plain gpios and another two that you can share with swd 2016-08-01T03:00:54 < zyp> that's about as good as you get from a 14-pin package 2016-08-01T03:02:25 < karlp> which is enough for plenty of ws2812 strips, and a pile of i2c devices and plenty of spi chip selects 2016-08-01T03:02:43 < karlp> or in otherwords "a metric millishitton" 2016-08-01T03:04:23 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/UqWEMpO.jpg 2016-08-01T03:05:05 < dongs> wow, there's a tsop14 stm32? 2016-08-01T03:05:20 < karlp> on st.com, nowhwere else apparently. 2016-08-01T03:05:30 < dongs> lol, right 2016-08-01T03:08:38 < zyp> which why I said might as well stay with qfp48 2016-08-01T03:09:01 < zyp> you've got a really tight design if the size difference really matters 2016-08-01T03:11:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T03:12:09 < Rob235> this guy singing outside is not very good, play some good music! 2016-08-01T03:13:39 < Laurenceb__> enjoy your new president murica http://imgur.com/t5xhZok 2016-08-01T03:19:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:7cb5:9cc2:62c7:9ff7] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T03:20:16 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T03:23:43 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-01T03:32:12 < kakimir> hello Laurenceb__ 2016-08-01T03:36:13 < kakimir> why isn't flywheels made of aramid instead of kevlar? 2016-08-01T03:36:43 < kakimir> aramid - kevlar instad of carbon 2016-08-01T03:57:35 < upgrdman> iirc carbon is much more ridgid when in a composite 2016-08-01T03:58:00 < upgrdman> you can make flexible hinges with aramid... big RC airplanes do that 2016-08-01T04:06:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-01T04:09:06 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-08-01T04:15:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T04:15:37 < Laurenceb__> I dont know 2016-08-01T04:15:42 < Laurenceb__> you mean for energy storage 2016-08-01T04:20:10 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-08-01T04:22:01 < dongs> yes so 2016-08-01T04:22:42 < dongs> of course not? 2016-08-01T04:24:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-01T04:33:43 < dongs> what is that test supposed to show anyway 2016-08-01T04:38:22 < dongs> thats cuz hes a faggot 2016-08-01T04:38:27 < dongs> wake me up when there's 120hz 4K m onitor 2016-08-01T04:38:29 < dongs> and when it actually matters 2016-08-01T04:38:33 < dongs> i see no blur in my altium schematics 2016-08-01T04:39:33 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-01T04:39:49 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T04:41:12 < dongs> i see youve bene jerking witrh that shit for > 24 hours 2016-08-01T04:45:59 < ReadError> play in the mud u gonna step in shit 2016-08-01T04:46:38 < dongs> R2COM: have you actually coded something using QT + GL that is "slow" because its using angle? 2016-08-01T04:46:42 < dongs> because you're just wasting time for no reason 2016-08-01T04:46:55 < dongs> like truly wasting 2016-08-01T04:47:01 < dongs> even gentoo faggots dont compile qt from sores 2016-08-01T04:47:08 < dongs> have you installed directX SDK yet? 2016-08-01T04:47:17 < dongs> so fuckign what 2016-08-01T04:47:23 < dongs> do you even code anything in opengl 2016-08-01T04:47:46 < dongs> then recode them in ES 2016-08-01T04:47:49 < dongs> shruggin 2016-08-01T05:32:41 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T05:42:00 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T05:45:42 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T05:59:44 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t9c4s59sw92x9.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T06:02:02 < englishman> Laurenceb's dickstarter isnt doing so well https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/spaceedge/skylaunch-deep-space-valiant-1-exploration-mission?ref=discovery 2016-08-01T06:05:32 < englishman> whats scanning crt 2016-08-01T06:06:54 < englishman> res over refresh 2016-08-01T06:14:12 < englishman> not much 2016-08-01T06:14:22 < englishman> saw an alpaero choucas yesterday 2016-08-01T06:17:07 < englishman> no but i'm sure it will eventually 2016-08-01T06:30:36 < englishman> glad to hear it 2016-08-01T07:13:29 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/xDLXc89.gifv 2016-08-01T07:26:00 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-01T07:28:58 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-01T07:32:11 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T08:16:22 < ReadError> https://github.com/revmischa/irssi-docker/blob/master/LICENSE 2016-08-01T08:19:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-01T09:01:39 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T09:03:16 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0addf0.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-01T09:05:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-01T09:15:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T09:35:27 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T09:58:03 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-01T10:05:51 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T10:22:07 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-01T10:35:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.119] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T10:40:04 < ReadError> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__107410__LUX_Flight_Controller.html 2016-08-01T10:40:12 < ReadError> calling mr hand 2016-08-01T10:44:57 < ReadError> why is there still not a good online package tracking site 2016-08-01T10:45:00 < ReadError> that saves stuff 2016-08-01T10:45:08 < ReadError> maybe an option to add stuff via email 2016-08-01T10:50:35 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T10:50:56 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T10:52:35 < dongs> hm wat 2016-08-01T10:52:42 < dongs> there's boost chips that dont need diode? 2016-08-01T10:52:50 < dongs> ex SY7215 2016-08-01T10:52:50 < jpa-> some have internal diode 2016-08-01T10:52:54 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T10:53:26 < PeterM> some use an internal fet too 2016-08-01T10:53:32 < dongs> looks like that one ues fet 2016-08-01T10:53:35 < dongs> 'rectification fet' 2016-08-01T10:54:06 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-01T10:54:19 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/AVw4NmQ.png 2016-08-01T10:54:26 < dongs> my last booster sucked cuz diode and coil heated 2016-08-01T10:54:31 < dongs> i should try this shit with fet 2016-08-01T10:54:33 < dongs> is it betteR? 2016-08-01T10:56:06 < PeterM> it is, but like, whats the application? 2016-08-01T10:57:21 < PeterM> i mean, if you're stickign 150w through a boost converter, even at 99% efficiency its still gonna dissipate 1.5w... 2016-08-01T10:58:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-01T11:05:12 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T11:05:34 < PeterM> also if oyur inductor is getting hot, it may be saturating which can happen in voltage mode boost converters pretty easily 2016-08-01T11:05:46 < dongs> because of 90% efficiency? 2016-08-01T11:05:48 < dongs> (1.5w) 2016-08-01T11:05:56 < dongs> er 99% 2016-08-01T11:05:58 < dongs> right 2016-08-01T11:09:35 < dongs> PeterM: did anything wiht usb-c yet? 2016-08-01T11:09:39 < dongs> connector-wise 2016-08-01T11:10:09 < PeterM> nah, can't find them decent priced or decent quality so microusb still is the wya to go for me 2016-08-01T11:10:26 < PeterM> which is shit because usb c is fuckin neato 2016-08-01T11:10:33 < dongs> right 2016-08-01T11:10:38 < dongs> im loking for a common connector for production 2016-08-01T11:10:41 < zyp> ReadError, my pal wrote an irc bot that you register tracking numbers with and then it lets you know when there's any updates 2016-08-01T11:10:48 < dongs> need about 3k or somethin 2016-08-01T11:10:54 < dongs> zyp, you picked any standard usb-c yet? :) 2016-08-01T11:11:04 < zyp> haha, no 2016-08-01T11:11:12 < ReadError> zyp well it doesnt seem like a hard task 2016-08-01T11:11:17 < ReadError> but no site has done it right 2016-08-01T11:11:17 < dongs> i gotta remember chink site that makes my displayport shit 2016-08-01T11:11:23 < dongs> i saw tehy had usb-c clones 2016-08-01T11:11:33 < jpa-> zyp: did he make the sores open? that sounds useful :P 2016-08-01T11:11:43 < zyp> dongs, might be interested in a vertical one at some point 2016-08-01T11:11:46 < dongs> it was probly in python 2016-08-01T11:12:00 < zyp> jpa-, http://cgit.jvnv.net/fot/ 2016-08-01T11:12:02 < zyp> dongs, correct 2016-08-01T11:12:22 < dongs> tollpost more like 2016-08-01T11:12:23 < ReadError> haha 2016-08-01T11:12:24 < dongs> trollpost 2016-08-01T11:12:29 < zyp> dongs, old joke 2016-08-01T11:12:32 < dongs> k 2016-08-01T11:12:35 < jpa-> zyp: thx 2016-08-01T11:12:38 < dongs> is that some norge post service? 2016-08-01T11:12:48 < ReadError> 17track with login + saved packages 2016-08-01T11:12:52 < ReadError> i would be okay with 2016-08-01T11:12:59 < dongs> 17track is chink filth 2016-08-01T11:13:05 < dongs> that site reeks 2016-08-01T11:13:26 < ReadError> yea but it tracks pretty much everything 2016-08-01T11:13:33 < zyp> dongs, it was, until it got bought up by some swedish company 2016-08-01T11:13:38 < ReadError> i thought it was russian 2016-08-01T11:15:13 < ReadError> why doesnt this exist though? 2016-08-01T11:17:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.70] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T11:22:46 < dongs> zyp: http://www.lotes.cc/shop/webpage!product_view.action?goodsSn=AUSB0316-P*** 2016-08-01T11:23:47 < zyp> dongs, yeah, something like that 2016-08-01T11:26:21 < dongs> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/wtf_why/32519850578.html 2016-08-01T11:28:17 < zyp> heh 2016-08-01T11:28:34 < zyp> cute design 2016-08-01T11:28:51 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T11:29:13 < zyp> resistor on the back can be populated as pullup or pulldown, to communicate whether it's a A-C or a B-C cable 2016-08-01T11:33:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-01T11:38:58 -!- Gunirus [uid20073@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfxmdruardkujpbz] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T11:53:52 < Ecco> Hey 2016-08-01T11:54:05 < Ecco> I've been reading about the FSMC controller that is present in some STM32 2016-08-01T11:54:25 < Ecco> My understanding is that it's a hardware component that drives a parallel data/address bus 2016-08-01T11:54:41 < Ecco> and that allows for fast interfacing with external memories which have such busses 2016-08-01T11:54:51 < Ecco> Is that correct? 2016-08-01T11:56:00 < dongs> its for anythign 2016-08-01T11:56:21 < dongs> UCF024CG01L 2016-08-01T11:56:44 < ReadError> why dont they have more chips with eeproms 2016-08-01T11:58:32 < dongs> PeterM: who makes chink inductors with low DCR 2016-08-01T11:58:34 < ReadError> i just need to twatter their twitter right 2016-08-01T11:58:36 < dongs> not shitlord 2016-08-01T12:01:05 < Ecco> Now there's one thing I quite don't understand with the FSMC is how you use it in software 2016-08-01T12:01:22 < Ecco> I'd think you write to a given address 2016-08-01T12:01:39 < Ecco> and part of that address (maybe the LSB) are used to drive the address pins 2016-08-01T12:01:48 < Ecco> and the data pins are driven according to what you're writing 2016-08-01T12:01:49 < dongs> that is literally waht it is. 2016-08-01T12:01:54 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T12:01:57 < Ecco> now about timing 2016-08-01T12:02:00 < dongs> plus it adds CE/WR/RD /wahtevr strobes 2016-08-01T12:02:04 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T12:02:10 < dongs> you configure that when you bring up peripheral. 2016-08-01T12:02:15 < Ecco> Perfect 2016-08-01T12:02:17 < Ecco> Now about timing 2016-08-01T12:02:21 < Ecco> is that write operation blocking? 2016-08-01T12:02:35 < Ecco> (I mean, will the CPU wait until the FSMC has done its job) 2016-08-01T12:04:08 < dongs> I forgot, i think there's some buffer maybe, why dont you read datasheet 2016-08-01T12:04:26 < Ecco> I'm reading it 2016-08-01T12:04:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.70] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T12:04:36 < Ecco> but I'm not sure Im' understanding it properly 2016-08-01T12:04:42 < Ecco> The datasheet mentions a FIFO 2016-08-01T12:04:55 < Ecco> So that would mean the write operations returns instantly 2016-08-01T12:05:21 < Ecco> and the FSMC will do the job in parallel 2016-08-01T12:05:23 < Ecco> I guess 2016-08-01T12:05:28 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/6DY7Xkc.png lmao tokyo got trolled 2016-08-01T12:08:17 < jpa-> Ecco: hmm, i don't recall FSMC having a FIFO, while the FMC (F4/F7) does have a FIFO i think 2016-08-01T12:09:36 < Ecco> jpa-: I'm reading the STM32F412 2016-08-01T12:09:39 < Ecco> That's a newer model 2016-08-01T12:09:54 < Ecco> it explicitely mentions a "Write FIFO with 16 x32-bit depth" 2016-08-01T12:11:10 < Ecco> Also, I quite don't understand what's the difference between a synchronous and asynchronous memory 2016-08-01T12:11:35 < jpa-> synchronous memory has a clock pin 2016-08-01T12:11:54 < jpa-> and yeah, looks like they've added a write FIFO to FSMC also in that model 2016-08-01T12:11:56 < Ecco> oh, ok. Simple explanation, thanks 2016-08-01T12:12:09 < Ecco> but then, how can it work without a clock pin? 2016-08-01T12:12:22 < karlp> f4 seems to be rapidly becoming rather diverse and not really compatible in any sense these days 2016-08-01T12:13:21 < jpa-> Ecco: by being sensitive to the level of RD/WR pins.. then you have to be careful to have correct timing for those 2016-08-01T12:13:41 < Ecco> ok, makes perfect sense 2016-08-01T12:13:47 < Ecco> thanks a lot! 2016-08-01T12:14:00 < Ecco> Regarding that FIFO, and the software side of things 2016-08-01T12:14:11 < Ecco> do that mean that until the FIFO is full, writes return instantly 2016-08-01T12:14:22 < Ecco> and that when it's full, it writes will be blocking? 2016-08-01T12:14:50 < Ecco> (i.e. I don't have to really worry about anything in the code, the FIFO will just do its magic and help whenever it can) 2016-08-01T12:15:05 < jpa-> yeah 2016-08-01T12:15:43 < Ecco> awesome 2016-08-01T12:15:44 < Ecco> thanksç 2016-08-01T12:15:44 < jpa-> you may need to worry about it to the extent that i think it can affect e.g. your interrupt latency if you have a blocking write 2016-08-01T12:15:46 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-08-01T12:15:51 < Ecco> oh, ok 2016-08-01T12:15:56 < Ecco> good to know 2016-08-01T12:16:20 < jpa-> but that's somewhat similar to what happens with DMA etc; if something is blocking the memory bus, stuff will be delayed a bit 2016-08-01T12:16:54 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-08-01T12:17:39 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28t9c4s59sw92x9.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-01T12:29:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-01T12:55:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.198] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T13:01:09 -!- Emil [fihlmae1@gateway/shell/tkk.fi/x-cjkuvjvcmekfjkxv] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T13:08:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T13:12:43 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T13:28:35 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T13:31:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-01T13:43:34 -!- Bright [~isthe@gayest.horse] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-01T13:46:21 < ReadError> STMicroelectronics Earns MEMS Manufacturer of the Year Award 2016-08-01T13:46:35 < ReadError> o.o 2016-08-01T13:46:41 < qyx> what memsy do they do? 2016-08-01T13:46:59 < qyx> I remember some gyros 2016-08-01T13:47:14 < ReadError> they do a bit of each 2016-08-01T13:47:26 < ReadError> but i didnt think they did anything too special this year 2016-08-01T13:49:56 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.60] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-01T13:59:01 < dongs> BREAKING: Dutch police storm bus near Sloten outside Amsterdam, hold terror suspect at gunpoint; A4 highway closed 2016-08-01T13:59:04 < dongs> RIP Steffanx 2016-08-01T13:59:34 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CowglITUkAAufdW.jpg:large 2016-08-01T14:00:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-01T14:07:46 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T14:12:21 < Ecco> I'd like to read a battery voltage using the ADC 2016-08-01T14:12:31 < Ecco> I have two concerns: 2016-08-01T14:13:08 < Ecco> - First, Vbat is greater than Vdd (Vdd comes from an LDO plugged on the battery) 2016-08-01T14:13:26 < jpa-> 1) resistor divider 2016-08-01T14:13:30 < Ecco> So I think that prevents me from plugging the ADC straight to VBAT 2016-08-01T14:13:31 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T14:13:36 < Ecco> but then, quiescent current 2016-08-01T14:13:42 < Ecco> the resistor divider will draw current all the time 2016-08-01T14:13:44 < jpa-> 2) big resistors and capacitor 2016-08-01T14:13:47 < qyx> 2) mosfet 2016-08-01T14:13:53 < qyx> or what jpa said 2016-08-01T14:14:06 < jpa-> you can also put the lower end on a 5V-tolerant GPIO to switch it off 2016-08-01T14:14:27 < Ecco> ok, wait, too much information :-) 2016-08-01T14:14:41 < qyx> mhm, is that ok? when the mcu is powered off, the gpio will still be at +5V 2016-08-01T14:14:41 < Ecco> -> Big resitor, ok I get it, but what's the upper bound? 2016-08-01T14:14:59 < Ecco> -> What's the point of a capacitor? How do I compute its capacity? 2016-08-01T14:15:09 < qyx> and there was something regarding 5V tolerant pins being not 5V tolerant when VDD=0V 2016-08-01T14:19:49 < Ecco> Apparently there's already a divider bridge integrated in the STM32 2016-08-01T14:19:53 < Ecco> on the VBAT pin 2016-08-01T14:26:26 < dongs> Ecco: i used like 1M divider on my dildo 2016-08-01T14:28:30 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-01T14:28:46 < Ecco> The datasheet says the external input impedence should be ~50k 2016-08-01T14:28:55 < dongs> only if you wanna measure it fast 2016-08-01T14:28:59 < dongs> if you dont care about measuring it once a second 2016-08-01T14:29:00 < dongs> it can be wahtever 2016-08-01T14:29:04 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T14:29:18 < Ecco> What about the capacitor? 2016-08-01T14:29:24 < Ecco> What's its purpose? 2016-08-01T14:29:26 < dongs> which capacitor? 2016-08-01T14:29:35 < dongs> adc center to gnd? 2016-08-01T14:29:42 < Ecco> probably 2016-08-01T14:29:50 < Ecco> jpa recommended using a capacitor 2016-08-01T14:29:51 < dongs> just smooth voltage spikes i guess, no need for a battery / low current draw 2016-08-01T14:30:10 < dongs> maybe he knows some analog reason 2016-08-01T14:30:13 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T14:30:36 < Ecco> jeelabs.org 2016-08-01T14:30:37 < PeterM> its so when the adc takes a gulp of current he divider doesnt sag 2016-08-01T14:30:40 < Ecco> has a nice doc about this 2016-08-01T14:31:00 < dongs> see theres your pro response 2016-08-01T14:31:07 < Ecco> http://jeelabs.org/2013/05/16/measuring-the-battery-without-draining-it/ 2016-08-01T14:31:15 < Ecco> ok, makes a lot of sense 2016-08-01T14:31:22 < Ecco> So the guys goes all the way up to 10M + 10M 2016-08-01T14:31:32 < dongs> analogRead(i); // ignore first reading.... 2016-08-01T14:31:40 < Ecco> I mean, at this stage, you may as well let the pin floating between a VDD and a VSS pin :-D 2016-08-01T14:32:50 < PeterM> floating is probably closer to 100meg 2016-08-01T14:33:19 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T14:33:27 < Ecco> well we can figure that out 2016-08-01T14:33:31 < Ecco> LQFP package 2016-08-01T14:34:01 < Ecco> 0.5mm pitch 2016-08-01T14:34:16 < Ecco> so assuming the ADC pin is left floating between a VDD and VSS pin 2016-08-01T14:34:22 < dongs> no 2016-08-01T14:34:37 < Ecco> that'd be a 0.5mm-of-air resistor 2016-08-01T14:35:20 < PeterM> the packaging material, and hte on die resistance and the pcb material is lwoer resistance than 0.5mm of air. 2016-08-01T14:35:21 < Ecco> the resistivity of air is around 2.10^16ohm.m 2016-08-01T14:35:31 < Ecco> oh, makes sense :) 2016-08-01T14:35:34 < PeterM> your arguement is invalid 2016-08-01T14:35:39 < Ecco> indeed 2016-08-01T14:35:53 < Ecco> I'm surprised that 10M isn't "too high" for some weird reason though 2016-08-01T14:36:07 < jpa-> qyx: your concern about Vdd=0V is correct, if that is a situation that could happen 2016-08-01T14:36:07 < Ecco> I always assumed anything above 1M was pretty much equivalent to no connection 2016-08-01T14:36:27 < jpa-> qyx: though IIRC they can still take a few µA of injected current in that situation 2016-08-01T14:36:48 < PeterM> allowed injection current is like 30ma or some shit isnt it 2016-08-01T14:37:22 < jpa-> Ecco: if you use a capacitor (more than 2^12 times the internal 4pF, so like 16nF or more), you can measure with minimal sample time 2016-08-01T14:37:44 < jpa-> if you use looooong sample time you don't need the capacitor, but then you will be staying out of power save for longer time etc. 2016-08-01T14:38:04 < Ecco> Makes perfect sense 2016-08-01T14:38:16 < Ecco> I'll only measure the battery when the device is doing tons of other things 2016-08-01T14:38:27 < Ecco> I just care about the divider bridge not killing the device when it's sleeping 2016-08-01T14:38:51 < jpa-> (also easier to write your code when you don't need to wait so long for the ADC measurement) 2016-08-01T14:39:00 < Ecco> Makes sense, indeed 2016-08-01T14:40:20 < jpa-> PeterM: hmm, actually looks that positive injection current for 5V-tolerant pins is specified as 0mA 2016-08-01T14:42:32 < qyx> isnt is because they don't have those esd diodes to vdd? 2016-08-01T14:42:38 < qyx> so actually no injection is possible or what 2016-08-01T14:43:05 < qyx> how is esd protection done? >5V zeners/tvs? 2016-08-01T14:43:35 < jpa-> usually by having diodes to internal rail, and then 5V zener from that to ground 2016-08-01T14:43:45 < jpa-> reduces capacitance because zeners have pretty high capacitance 2016-08-01T14:45:01 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T14:45:12 < Ecco> So if I count right, a 1M divider bridge 2016-08-01T14:45:23 < Ecco> equates to a 2microamp current 2016-08-01T14:45:35 < Ecco> which would take 74 years to empty a 1200 mAh battery 2016-08-01T14:45:46 < Ecco> Does that sound right? 2016-08-01T14:46:47 < jpa-> if you don't need the highest accuracy, you can also do things like 1Mohm / 10Mohm divider which has only 0.5µA draw but still just 0.9Mohm impedance 2016-08-01T14:46:58 < Ecco> oh, smart 2016-08-01T14:47:01 < Ecco> but again, 74 years 2016-08-01T14:47:10 < Ecco> I might just don't bother, right? 2016-08-01T14:47:17 < Ecco> *just not 2016-08-01T14:47:21 < qyx> you will be already dead in 74 years anyway 2016-08-01T14:47:22 < jpa-> but yeah, for a 4V battery voltage, your computation checks out 2016-08-01T14:47:38 < jpa-> and the battery internal leakage usually empties it in 10 years or so 2016-08-01T14:47:49 < Ecco> indeed 2016-08-01T14:48:03 < Ecco> Interesting 2016-08-01T14:48:13 < jpa-> but for smaller batteries it could still matter 2016-08-01T14:48:17 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-08-01T14:48:28 < Ecco> The capacitor might be worth it though 2016-08-01T14:48:36 < Ecco> because it would let me measure the ADC faster 2016-08-01T14:48:37 < Ecco> right? 2016-08-01T14:48:50 < Ecco> I quite don't get how to compute its value though 2016-08-01T14:49:05 < jpa-> 100nF would work 2016-08-01T14:49:14 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-01T14:49:21 < jpa-> i'd just use whatever value you use for other decoupling on the board 2016-08-01T14:49:30 < Ecco> Yeah 2016-08-01T14:49:36 < Ecco> I have 0.1uF lying around 2016-08-01T14:49:43 < dongs> k 2016-08-01T14:49:47 < Ecco> great thanks 2016-08-01T14:49:55 < dongs> found a nice chinky maker with lots of usb-c connectors 2016-08-01T14:50:07 < dongs> will check quality 2016-08-01T14:53:47 < dongs> lmao 2016-08-01T14:54:11 < dongs> current atmel sam3x leadtime from distributor is 18 weeks 2016-08-01T14:54:12 < dongs> RIP 2016-08-01T14:54:16 < dongs> microchip at work 2016-08-01T14:55:35 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/Microcontroller-for-LEDs-Driver-using/ 2016-08-01T14:55:39 < dongs> > dali 2016-08-01T14:55:40 < dongs> right k 2016-08-01T14:55:43 < dongs> $250 2016-08-01T14:56:06 < dongs> Additional Project Description: 2016-08-01T14:56:06 < dongs> 08/01/2016 at 15:40 JST 2016-08-01T14:56:06 < dongs> DALI stands for Digital Addressable Lighting Interface and is a protocol set out in the technical standard IEC 62386. 2016-08-01T14:56:16 < dongs> if whoever looked at this didnt know what it is 2016-08-01T14:56:23 < dongs> they're probably not qualified for the project 2016-08-01T14:58:34 < jpa-> they want $30 person, not a qualified person :) 2016-08-01T15:00:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T15:01:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.57] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T15:15:44 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T15:29:24 < jon1012> freelancer.com is just crap, chosing people for a programming work based on price is utter nonsense 2016-08-01T15:29:43 < jon1012> you just accumulate technical debt worth thousands dollar more than what you pay 2016-08-01T15:30:20 < dongs> lol 2016-08-01T15:31:27 < jpa-> you don't accumulate any technical debt when the product is a failure to begin with 2016-08-01T15:31:46 < jpa-> and if it is a success, just hope it is success enough that you can rebuild 2016-08-01T15:31:58 < jpa-> $30 is not much of a sunk cost ;) 2016-08-01T15:33:12 < jon1012> but paying this price, the chances of getting something working are quite low 2016-08-01T15:36:52 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/kE3Bpd4.png 2016-08-01T15:36:56 < dongs> this was previous freecancer work 2016-08-01T15:37:08 < dongs> to do 8x8 grid of rgb encoders. 2016-08-01T15:38:22 < zyp> you're doing attiny stuff? 2016-08-01T15:38:31 < dongs> no, this is somethign done by paki before 2016-08-01T15:38:54 < dongs> as much as I hate atmel I would not wish buying and programming 64 attinys 2016-08-01T15:38:56 < dongs> on anyone 2016-08-01T15:39:05 < zyp> haha 2016-08-01T15:39:26 < zyp> do an ivan, buy a chip programmer 2016-08-01T15:39:38 < dongs> of course 2016-08-01T15:39:42 < dongs> those were DIP attinys too 2016-08-01T15:39:48 < dongs> so I suspect they just socketed them into tarrduino 2016-08-01T15:39:50 < dongs> or whatever 2016-08-01T15:39:56 < zyp> haha 2016-08-01T15:40:12 < zyp> so, are those discrete boards? 2016-08-01T15:40:24 < zyp> 64 of them? 2016-08-01T15:40:27 < dongs> yes 2016-08-01T15:40:35 < dongs> with attiny, rgb encoder on each 2016-08-01T15:40:42 < dongs> and 2016-08-01T15:40:44 < scrts> good stuff! 2016-08-01T15:40:46 < dongs> they';re connected by I2C 2016-08-01T15:40:51 < scrts> what else can you put on such board? 2016-08-01T15:40:54 < dongs> the complaint was 2016-08-01T15:40:59 < dongs> "i2c comms are unstable" 2016-08-01T15:41:44 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-01T15:42:30 < zyp> ws2801 for the rgb, maybe just a shift register for the encoder 2016-08-01T15:43:20 < zyp> I mean, the attiny would decode it in software anyway, just latch them all at the same time and load the entire serial string in and decode on master 2016-08-01T15:45:02 < dongs> that would be too advanced 2016-08-01T15:45:09 < dongs> did you also noticed leds are directly connected to attiny pins 2016-08-01T15:45:15 < dongs> no R 2016-08-01T15:45:34 < dongs> at least they're on PWM outputs, I hope they figured out how to pwm after burning a few $5 encoders 2016-08-01T15:45:48 < zyp> haha 2016-08-01T15:46:12 < zyp> does the attiny pins drive strong enough to burn anything? :p 2016-08-01T15:46:18 < dongs> oh donno 2016-08-01T15:46:20 < dongs> good point 2016-08-01T15:46:25 < dongs> maybe they were just real brgiht. 2016-08-01T15:46:43 < Ultrasauce> arduino driven development 2016-08-01T15:46:55 < dongs> literally. 2016-08-01T15:50:26 < zyp> maybe a cheap small cpld would be the best fit 2016-08-01T15:50:50 < zyp> but do you get those cheaper than mcus? 2016-08-01T15:51:16 < dongs> pretty sure DIP tiny84 costs more than tssop20 F0 2016-08-01T15:54:07 < Fleck> st makes cpld ? 2016-08-01T15:56:31 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/atmel/ATTINY84A-MUR/ATTINY84A-MURCT-ND/2774135 http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/stmicroelectronics/STM32F031F4P6/STM32F031F4P6-ND/4357518 2016-08-01T15:56:45 < dongs> can't compare reel price of course, but futurlec sells those tssop20s for like 50c in singles? 2016-08-01T15:56:48 < dongs> sooo 2016-08-01T15:57:20 < dongs> but here we haev attiny, in a SOCKET, so we're already through the roof costs-wise 2016-08-01T15:59:40 -!- Gunirus [uid20073@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfxmdruardkujpbz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-01T16:01:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-01T16:02:42 < englishman> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1913560112/bloxshield/description 2016-08-01T16:02:48 < englishman> pebble gave me cancer 2016-08-01T16:03:40 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T16:08:04 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-01T16:08:32 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electrical-Engineering/Circuit-Design-11158667/ 2016-08-01T16:16:59 < aandrew> haha 2016-08-01T16:18:40 < aandrew> LOL 2016-08-01T16:18:48 < aandrew> 64 attinys as i2c slaves off one bus? 2016-08-01T16:20:30 < aandrew> lol @ comparing 1x qty of attny with 1500x qty of stm32f0 which is not in stock 2016-08-01T16:21:00 < aandrew> you're not wrong, you can get way more cpu for way less money but that specific comparison was fail 2016-08-01T16:21:18 < dongs> http://www.futureelectronics.com/en/technologies/semiconductors/microcontrollers/32-bit/Pages/3038310-STM32F030F4P6.aspx?IM=0 2016-08-01T16:21:31 < dongs> i did say it was not a fair one 2016-08-01T16:21:37 < aandrew> I can't imagine the bulk capacitance of all those attinys 2016-08-01T16:21:38 < dongs> but thre's tsop20 F0 for .52 2016-08-01T16:21:41 < dongs> aandrew: right. 2016-08-01T16:21:43 < aandrew> orite 2016-08-01T16:22:07 < dongs> imported pcb from mental pads 2016-08-01T16:22:14 < ReadError> where that tssop-14 they have now? 2016-08-01T16:22:15 < dongs> trying to copy hardware (outline, mounting holes, etc) 2016-08-01T16:22:23 < aandrew> why fucking i2c though, that sounds like someone at a makerspace rubbed two brain cells together and said "I'm a fucking systems engineer" 2016-08-01T16:22:23 < dongs> copypaste doenst work 2016-08-01T16:22:37 < dongs> aandrew: well, thats waht you get for $30 on freecancer.com 2016-08-01T16:22:49 < dongs> "i heard about this i2c t hing, you only need 2 wires and can address 128 devicecs" 2016-08-01T16:22:52 < dongs> "ok, deal" 2016-08-01T16:23:16 < aandrew> I think I ought to start a freelancer clone called "ok.you.got.fucked.on.freelancer.and.now.want.to.make.it.work.for.reals.com 2016-08-01T16:24:01 < Rickta59> i think that exists already .. dice.com 2016-08-01T16:24:25 < aandrew> what's that, Damn I Can't Engineer.com? 2016-08-01T16:25:49 < scrts> gents, did you use libusb ever? 2016-08-01T16:25:51 < aandrew> hm, $32 for a laptop battery on aliexpress, or $70 on amazon. I think I'll go amazon 2016-08-01T16:25:56 < scrts> is it painful to use? 2016-08-01T16:25:58 < aandrew> I have used libusb quite a bit 2016-08-01T16:26:03 < aandrew> not at all, it works very well 2016-08-01T16:26:08 < ReadError> scrts triggered. 2016-08-01T16:26:28 < dongs> scrts: dont bother 2016-08-01T16:26:31 < dongs> just use winusb 2016-08-01T16:26:36 < scrts> aandrew: I was thinking to interface uC with LabView using USB 2016-08-01T16:26:37 < dongs> or cypress cyapi 2016-08-01T16:26:53 < scrts> dongs: cyapi for PSoC series stuff? 2016-08-01T16:26:58 < dongs> scrts: no, its for wahtever 2016-08-01T16:27:01 < dongs> you can jsut attach it to any device 2016-08-01T16:27:11 < dongs> but really just do HID or CDC and dont worry about a driver 2016-08-01T16:27:17 < scrts> and what do you use to program GUI on windows? 2016-08-01T16:27:24 < dongs> ask R2COM :) 2016-08-01T16:27:32 < scrts> well, not sure how much I can push through HID 2016-08-01T16:27:38 < dongs> he's been trying to cmompile QT for the last 48 hours 2016-08-01T16:27:39 < scrts> need 4Mbit/s at least 2016-08-01T16:27:44 < scrts> for ul;tra fast I2C 2016-08-01T16:27:56 < dongs> CDC doesn't really have any "limit" 2016-08-01T16:27:59 < aandrew> I've pushed 2.5Gbit (5Gbit FDX) over libusb on linux, windows and osx 2016-08-01T16:28:03 < scrts> fuck that QT, I am too old to learn visual studio or stuff 2016-08-01T16:28:04 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T16:28:16 < dongs> aandrew: why i cant copy shit 2016-08-01T16:28:21 < dongs> i selected 6 mounting holes 2016-08-01T16:28:22 < dongs> ctrl+c 2016-08-01T16:28:24 < dongs> chose origin 2016-08-01T16:28:29 < scrts> I can do console app on visual studio, but GUI shit is just too time consuming to learn 2016-08-01T16:28:30 < dongs> ctrl+v into another board, nothing happens 2016-08-01T16:28:45 < dongs> scrts: .net / c# shit works, drawg and drop stuff i guess no idea 2016-08-01T16:28:47 < aandrew> dongs: wtf, I don't think lock matters when copying does it? 2016-08-01T16:28:48 < dongs> winforms 2016-08-01T16:28:55 < dongs> its not, and they're not locked 2016-08-01T16:29:03 < dongs> the only thing about this board is its imported from mental pads 2016-08-01T16:29:05 < aandrew> hm, that's fucked 2016-08-01T16:29:09 < dongs> so theres o9k layers 2016-08-01T16:29:10 < dongs> BUT 2016-08-01T16:29:15 < dongs> these are just moutning holes 2016-08-01T16:29:15 < aandrew> are they components or just pads? 2016-08-01T16:29:17 < dongs> not special stack 2016-08-01T16:29:19 < dongs> they're pads 2016-08-01T16:29:25 < aandrew> they should copy no problem then 2016-08-01T16:30:18 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-01T16:30:32 < dongs> whats fucked is i cant even ctrl+v them back on to the SMAME pcb 2016-08-01T16:30:33 < dongs> same 2016-08-01T16:30:39 < dongs> ctrl+c works, ctrl+v doenst 2016-08-01T16:30:49 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T16:30:56 < dongs> 8 objects 2016-08-01T16:31:22 < aandrew> does *one* work? 2016-08-01T16:31:26 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T16:31:38 < dongs> nope. 2016-08-01T16:31:41 < aandrew> if you double click the shit and pastebin/imgur/whatever the properties page maybe I can spot something 2016-08-01T16:32:09 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-01T16:32:09 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T16:32:14 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/thclC6g.png no theres nothign weird there at all 2016-08-01T16:32:33 < dongs> its just a dumb mounting hole 2016-08-01T16:32:41 < dongs> only reason i'm copying them is cuz i wanna keep the pcb structure 2016-08-01T16:32:44 < dongs> and replcae the routing 2016-08-01T16:33:05 < aandrew> the only thing I can think of maybe is that it's template based but you said you coldn't evne paste in the same pcb 2016-08-01T16:33:12 < dongs> right 2016-08-01T16:33:42 < dongs> paste special/same layer doesnt do anything either 2016-08-01T16:34:59 < aandrew> that's fucked. I don't know what the hell might be going on but like you siad it might be some idiotic import bug 2016-08-01T16:35:17 < dongs> gonna restart altidumb i geuss 2016-08-01T16:35:29 < dongs> cant think of anything else being broken 2016-08-01T16:35:53 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T16:35:54 < dongs> same................... 2016-08-01T16:35:56 < dongs> W T F 2016-08-01T16:37:09 < ReadError> why not try to gerber->camtastic->export2pcb the problem shit 2016-08-01T16:38:11 < dongs> shit doesnt appear in PCB list etc when pasted 2016-08-01T16:38:15 < dongs> so its not like its getting hidden or something 2016-08-01T16:39:10 < ReadError> is it going into a layer thats not enabled? 2016-08-01T16:39:40 < dongs> no 2016-08-01T16:39:41 < dongs> also 2016-08-01T16:39:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-01T16:39:45 < dongs> just pasted something that wasnt electrical 2016-08-01T16:39:47 < dongs> just a drawing layer 2016-08-01T16:39:48 < dongs> and that worked 2016-08-01T16:39:56 < dongs> its specifically being racist about these pads 2016-08-01T16:41:00 < dongs> pasting other holes works.. 2016-08-01T16:41:02 < dongs> ok real wtf 2016-08-01T16:41:24 < dongs> my hole design rule is bigger 2016-08-01T16:41:30 < dongs> even tho that doesnt matter when pasting, or at all 2016-08-01T16:41:33 < dongs> it'll just warn later.. 2016-08-01T16:42:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.42] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T16:43:09 < ReadError> import it into something w/o any rules ? 2016-08-01T16:43:16 < dongs> rules are not the problem 2016-08-01T16:43:27 < dongs> i have same hole rule (default actaully since pads doenst have one) 2016-08-01T16:43:34 < dongs> and its 2.54mm max hole, which is bigger than 2mm that it is 2016-08-01T16:43:40 < dongs> so theres no problem with that. 2016-08-01T16:43:55 < dongs> fuckit just gonna write coords and copy them 2016-08-01T16:43:59 < dongs> only 8 holes 2016-08-01T16:44:08 < ReadError> why not try to gerber->camtastic->export2pcb the problem shit 2016-08-01T16:45:16 < dongs> i'd rather have usable pads and shit 2016-08-01T16:45:30 < ReadError> it doesnt matter, its just the coords you are importing 2016-08-01T16:45:37 < ReadError> then you can change it to w/e the hell you want 2016-08-01T16:46:05 < dongs> same shit, i recreated same mounting hole 2016-08-01T16:46:12 < dongs> and library template is same 2016-08-01T16:46:15 < dongs> c400h200 2016-08-01T16:46:23 < dongs> so its not some hidden layer trash etc. 2016-08-01T16:46:28 < dongs> just altidumb cockup, moving on 2016-08-01T16:47:36 < ReadError> i hit a fuckup the other day, was routing a trace between 2 vias and the glossing or routing shit was set to hug/push, every time it would start to draw the trace towards the vias it would completely crash the nvidia driver 2016-08-01T16:47:50 < ReadError> like reproducible 2016-08-01T16:48:07 < dongs> found the problem 2016-08-01T16:48:16 < dongs> the "pads" were part of a bigger component 2016-08-01T16:48:26 < dongs> which included a large keepout circle and shit 2016-08-01T16:48:35 < dongs> just copying pads that are part of component doesnt work i guess 2016-08-01T16:48:44 < dongs> since there's so many layers after import 2016-08-01T16:48:50 < dongs> i didnt notice the shit was part of something else 2016-08-01T16:48:55 < dongs> and not jsut a pad surrounded by mental garbage 2016-08-01T16:55:17 < qyx> wtf maxim not showing package drawings in their datasheets 2016-08-01T16:55:38 < qyx> instead you have to choose drawing by package on their web 2016-08-01T16:56:03 < qyx> however no TQFN-EP 20pin package there 2016-08-01T16:56:21 < dongs> wut 2016-08-01T16:56:23 < dongs> then fuckem 2016-08-01T16:56:24 < dongs> use someone else 2016-08-01T16:58:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-01T16:59:09 < qyx> ok, finlaly found something 2016-08-01T17:04:00 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nzdanufbmgoticzm] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T17:04:00 -!- ReadMobl [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ickmxmzzlspmmjmv] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T17:04:24 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdcfahlisygfwjxm] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T17:04:32 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zsgkhesjripujmto] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T17:09:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-01T17:10:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:17:04 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qyokoeanoathcasn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:17:24 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zheaqtzzwgqznqbe] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:18:57 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pankxzvyggylgoma] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:20:45 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.224.105.180] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:21:33 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-01T17:22:11 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:23:03 < ehsanv> hi guys, i worked with ssd1963 to display some pictures on 7" lcd and some texts on it. but now i need to play videos! i know videos need to decode before they could be played! but i don't know if any microcontroller out there could do this task or i should use a decoder along with my microcontroller. any ideas is appreciated 2016-08-01T17:23:29 < ehsanv> thanks :) 2016-08-01T17:28:20 < qyx> use a cheap linux devboard 2016-08-01T17:28:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-01T17:28:47 < ReadError> 5$ CHIP or w/e 2016-08-01T17:29:05 < ReadError> pi clones 2016-08-01T17:32:57 < ehsanv> like banana pi? chinese version of rpi?! 2016-08-01T17:34:13 < ehsanv> actually we used chinese tablets and connect our board to tablet with PL2303 (serial USB from prolific) but usb connection is not really stable. 2016-08-01T17:34:21 < ehsanv> *android 2016-08-01T17:34:39 < Steffanx> prolific might be the issue as well. Especially when cloned 2016-08-01T17:34:53 < ehsanv> now i looking for a cheap simple solution with QFP packages that we could solder them 2016-08-01T17:42:03 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.224.105.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-01T17:43:21 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:44:54 < Rob235> whats up guys 2016-08-01T17:49:05 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.225.157.11] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T17:54:06 < qyx> video decoding on a microcontroller is probably not an easy and straightforward solution 2016-08-01T17:54:49 < qyx> if you wanna play something more smmoth than a slideshow on that 7" 2016-08-01T17:55:28 < qyx> mjpeg could work 2016-08-01T17:57:27 < Steffanx> mjpeg works. Some jappy does fancy stuff with a stm32f[dontremember] 2016-08-01T17:58:53 < dongs> ok this is some weird shit 2016-08-01T17:58:59 < Steffanx> but what kind of resolution you need ehsanv? 2016-08-01T17:59:02 < dongs> i see a schematic using boost converter FB pin as vref 2016-08-01T17:59:04 < dongs> wat? 2016-08-01T18:04:12 < Steffanx> makerware? 2016-08-01T18:04:15 < dongs> nope 2016-08-01T18:04:24 < dongs> its running off 2xAA 2016-08-01T18:04:29 < dongs> needs a "stable" vref 2016-08-01T18:04:34 < dongs> cuz battery decreases 2016-08-01T18:04:42 < dongs> for adc measuring of battery voltage 2016-08-01T18:05:04 < dongs> boost thing always has FB at 500mV 2016-08-01T18:05:41 < Laurenceb> https://www.change.org/p/the-fbi-shut-down-the-4chan-imageboard-b 2016-08-01T18:06:01 < dongs> tehy're not wrong 2016-08-01T18:06:18 < Laurenceb> /p/ 2016-08-01T18:06:32 < zyp> dongs, uh, isn't there an internal band gap? 2016-08-01T18:07:07 < dongs> i donno, is there? 2016-08-01T18:07:14 < dongs> what does stm32 do when running off variable vcc? 2016-08-01T18:07:19 < dongs> what does adc use for reference 2016-08-01T18:07:43 < zyp> I thought reference was selectable with internal band gap as one of the options 2016-08-01T18:07:56 < zyp> which part is this? 2016-08-01T18:08:32 < dongs> i donno yet i havent got to mcu part yet 2016-08-01T18:08:42 < dongs> but how does it work wehn vcc is variable? 2016-08-01T18:09:26 < qyx> I use analog vcc as a reference for adc and then measure internal vref 2016-08-01T18:09:53 < qyx> then you can compute the ratio of the internal reference and vdda 2016-08-01T18:09:54 < dongs> to get the scale? 2016-08-01T18:10:14 < qyx> not sure if this is the righ thing (tm), but works 2016-08-01T18:10:21 < qyx> internal vref is selectable as one analog input 2016-08-01T18:10:21 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/training/technical/product_training/0c/c6/74/84/e5/fd/46/c6/STM32L4_Analog_Vrefbuf.pdf/files/STM32L4_Analog_Vrefbuf.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.STM32L4_Analog_Vrefbuf.pdf 2016-08-01T18:10:26 < dongs> zyp, L4 has it, b ut nothign else? 2016-08-01T18:10:40 < zyp> I'm looking at F4, it has Vrefint 2016-08-01T18:11:13 < zyp> but yeah, it looks like you have to only use it as a correction factor 2016-08-01T18:11:22 < qyx> selectable as vref for adc? or just an analog input to measure? 2016-08-01T18:11:28 < zyp> latter 2016-08-01T18:11:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-01T18:12:22 < ReadError> so those seek thermal shits 2016-08-01T18:12:27 < ReadError> they got PC software now 2016-08-01T18:12:31 < dongs> cool 2016-08-01T18:12:34 < dongs> on official site? 2016-08-01T18:12:40 < ReadError> haha fuck no 2016-08-01T18:12:42 < ReadError> its super german 2016-08-01T18:13:03 < ReadError> http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_thermovision_joe-c_184.php 2016-08-01T18:13:13 < ReadError> http://joe-c.de/media/thermo/dev/thermovision/Thermovision_5.jpg 2016-08-01T18:13:29 < dongs> for that shit 2016-08-01T18:15:50 < ReadError> http://joe-c.de/media/thermo/dev/thermoviewer/Screen_9.jpg 2016-08-01T18:15:58 < ReadError> e4 does usb video? 2016-08-01T18:17:27 -!- ReadMobl [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eoirdqjeygyqgrgx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T18:18:03 < dongs> yes 2016-08-01T18:18:08 < dongs> shitty UVC cam thing 2016-08-01T18:18:15 < dongs> god damn that desktop 2016-08-01T18:18:17 < dongs> fucking germans 2016-08-01T18:18:22 < dongs> that software looks fucking awful 2016-08-01T18:18:31 < ReadError> i told you its super german 2016-08-01T18:18:49 < ReadError> those e4 are getting pretty cheap 2016-08-01T18:18:56 < ReadError> new ones are hackable too 2016-08-01T18:20:01 < dongs> wahts e4 2016-08-01T18:20:04 < dongs> new version of e3? 2016-08-01T18:20:27 < dongs> oh 2016-08-01T18:20:30 < dongs> never mind e4 is the shit ih ave 2016-08-01T18:20:46 < dongs> but yeah seek totally rapes it 2016-08-01T18:20:57 < ReadError> yea the seek sensor is pretty nice 2016-08-01T18:21:19 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/B3X1H5s.jpg good luck getting this off flir 2016-08-01T18:21:22 < ReadError> i guess they had an android update 2016-08-01T18:21:29 < ReadError> thats supposed to be good? 2016-08-01T18:21:40 < ReadError> oh, you got bash on windows in the future? 2016-08-01T18:21:53 < ReadError> thats off the seek? 2016-08-01T18:22:43 < ReadError> oh therm-app 2016-08-01T18:22:58 < dongs> oh shit i thought you were talkin about thermapp yeah 2016-08-01T18:23:02 < dongs> never mind seek is trash 2016-08-01T18:23:13 < dongs> shitty dickstarter-escque trash 2016-08-01T18:23:16 < dongs> i'd rather give money to jews 2016-08-01T18:23:18 < dongs> israle #1 2016-08-01T18:23:42 < dongs> Windows 10 (Multiple Editions), Version 1511 (Updated Apr 2016) New! 2016-08-01T18:23:44 < dongs> nothing on msdn 2016-08-01T18:26:39 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T18:26:53 < Rob235> any idea why my first bit sometimes doesn't get sent to the ws2812s? I had to increase the buffer and add a zero (not 0 or 1 but zero as in always low) to the beginning so that it registers the first bit every time 2016-08-01T18:27:08 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T18:27:35 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-01T18:33:45 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-01T18:33:47 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-159-225.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T18:42:58 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T18:43:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:7cb5:9cc2:62c7:9ff7] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-01T18:44:55 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-01T18:45:32 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T18:49:29 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/zWteVkZcJ18 weird how the bottom left arm top layer (green led) turns blue every other time and the top right arm (blue led) turns green every other time :P 2016-08-01T18:50:21 < englishman> (((dongs))) 2016-08-01T18:51:06 < ReadError> 'iggered. 2016-08-01T18:51:39 < zyp> Rob235, what are they supposed to show 2016-08-01T18:51:40 < PeterM> *dongling intesifies* 2016-08-01T18:51:42 < zyp> and how are they wired? 2016-08-01T18:52:43 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T18:53:49 < Rob235> zyp: the top layer (the sliding single led) is supposed to be green on the left arms and blue on the right. it's just so strange because its arms 2 and 5 which arent wired next to each other. just gotta go through the code and figure it out, probably nothing big 2016-08-01T18:54:20 < Rob235> its wired as one long strip 2016-08-01T18:55:34 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-01T18:57:02 < ReadError> seems like a PITD to wire 2016-08-01T18:57:06 < ReadError> why not mux 2016-08-01T18:57:14 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T18:58:59 < Rob235> it works fine, wasn't a pain, not my issue 2016-08-01T19:03:12 < Rob235> I wasn't asking for help, I just thought it was an interesting bug so I shared it :) 2016-08-01T19:30:39 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-01T19:33:51 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-yFhR1fKWG0 2016-08-01T19:36:59 < kakimir> brother had did some internet security 2016-08-01T19:37:08 < kakimir> router had 252 users 2016-08-01T19:37:19 < kakimir> at one moment 2016-08-01T19:37:59 < kakimir> free access to private network 2016-08-01T19:38:12 < kakimir> at least we have learned to change router passwords 2016-08-01T19:38:48 < kakimir> last time there was some port scanner running in our router wildly looking for open ports 2016-08-01T19:42:16 < kakimir> also browser plugin relaying malicious connections of unknown users via our network 2016-08-01T19:42:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T19:44:14 < kakimir> network authority send a letter that you need to get your shit together or your connection will be blocked 2016-08-01T19:48:52 < zyp> be careful or the internet police will arrest you 2016-08-01T19:55:16 < Rob235> ahh fresh batch of scorpion milk (1 liter) made (my own ejuice recipe) 2016-08-01T19:55:45 < zyp> eww 2016-08-01T19:56:12 < Rob235> first time with zero nicotine 2016-08-01T20:22:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.38] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T20:24:35 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0addf0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T20:33:35 < englishman> is this the stuff to build up a tolerance to scorpion venom 2016-08-01T20:33:41 < englishman> where you vape scorpion stuff 2016-08-01T20:33:45 < englishman> skorping 2016-08-01T20:34:07 < Rob235> I'm trying to turn into a scorpion 2016-08-01T20:35:48 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/7noLAUMuosg?t=92 2016-08-01T20:35:57 < ReadError> i feel this is accurate 2016-08-01T20:38:17 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-01T20:38:17 < Rob235> about what? 2016-08-01T20:38:50 < ReadError> everything 2016-08-01T20:40:46 < Rob235> that vapers are fat slob losers that talk nothing but vaping? 2016-08-01T20:41:38 < ReadError> 1 second while i repaste that quote everywhere looool 2016-08-01T20:41:57 < Rob235> I'm skinny, loser is debatable, and I occasionally talk about vaping 2016-08-01T20:42:10 < Rob235> haha I was wondering what you specifically meant 2016-08-01T20:42:45 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T20:42:59 < englishman> how strange, there were people in that video without facial hair 2016-08-01T21:01:43 -!- mra90 [~Martin@5.10.7.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T21:08:31 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T21:18:10 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-01T21:19:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-01T21:24:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T21:34:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:f8b1:465e:a7b0:7ff8] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T21:45:16 < Rob235> hmm, if I want to mess around with some acrylic/plexiglass where should I look? 2016-08-01T21:47:19 < Rob235> ebay? :) 2016-08-01T21:52:03 < ReadError> amazeone 2016-08-01T21:52:17 < XTL> I would look close first if at all possible to avoid shipping 2016-08-01T21:54:06 < Rob235> true 2016-08-01T21:56:49 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-01T21:58:30 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T22:15:38 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T22:20:36 < kakimir> Laurenceb: have you looked at vacuum films for use in baloons? 2016-08-01T22:20:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-01T22:20:40 < kakimir> those are multilayer shiet 2016-08-01T22:20:59 < kakimir> have 400% flex and so 2016-08-01T22:21:17 < Rob235> is 1/2" frosted acrylic good for making a diffused led light box thingamajig? Just wanted to mess around: https://www.amazon.com/Acrylic-Plexiglass-Two-Sided-Frosted-Finish/dp/B010MORBAK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1470078981&sr=8-1&keywords=frosted+acrylic+1%2F2%22+9%22 2016-08-01T22:22:18 < ReadError> you may try HDPE 2016-08-01T22:22:23 < ReadError> if you want to diffuse 2016-08-01T22:22:50 < Rob235> ok thanks i'll look into it 2016-08-01T22:23:57 < Rob235> https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/polyethylene-led-cube.html 2016-08-01T22:23:58 < ReadError> its cheap and light anyways 2016-08-01T22:24:02 < Rob235> ahh yea thats the kinda effect I was looking for 2016-08-01T22:24:27 < ReadError> looks like they are using some type of *DPE 2016-08-01T22:41:02 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T22:46:24 < kakimir> how to know if use release film p1 or p3 2016-08-01T22:46:53 < kakimir> perforated release film 2016-08-01T22:56:00 < Steffanx> experience. 2016-08-01T22:56:49 < kakimir> you mean experiment? 2016-08-01T22:58:23 < Steffanx> Experience by experminenting ;) 2016-08-01T22:58:32 < Steffanx> *experimenting 2016-08-01T22:59:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-01T23:00:34 < kakimir> experiments on english language 2016-08-01T23:00:47 < kakimir> takes multiple iterations to get it rigth 2016-08-01T23:01:15 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T23:02:39 < Steffanx> Yes, that's what you seem to do. 2016-08-01T23:06:27 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRy7c851C2A music? rite? 2016-08-01T23:08:30 < mra90> hmm I have noticed such instruction in STM32 startup.s code "bl __libc_init_array" - what is __libc_init_array and where is it defined? 2016-08-01T23:11:14 < Steffanx> it's in newlib, for you probably. 2016-08-01T23:12:00 < mra90> newlib in compiler dir? 2016-08-01T23:13:00 < mra90> I checked and my simple asm code witch only turn on/off one pin works without this call... 2016-08-01T23:13:22 < Rob235> when balancing props do you sand the front or back of the blade? pretty sure its the cutting edge right? 2016-08-01T23:14:45 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T23:15:28 < Steffanx> newlib is a standard C library, when you write assembly you obviously dont need it mra90 2016-08-01T23:16:25 < mra90> Steffanx: I didn't - as I said it's in provided startup.s file - so why ST provided it there? 2016-08-01T23:17:02 < kakimir> yhey want to provide bloated packs of stuff? 2016-08-01T23:17:31 < mra90> I have also cheked source code (if it is this) at http://static.grumpycoder.net/pixel/uC-sdk-doc/initfini_8c_source.html and I don't see what it does? 2016-08-01T23:17:50 < Steffanx> mra90, because you are probably looking at the startup file used for C projects. 2016-08-01T23:17:56 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-01T23:18:15 < mra90> yes it's true 2016-08-01T23:18:22 < PaulFertser> mra90: that function is used to call constructors of static C++ objects. 2016-08-01T23:18:46 < mra90> no C things? 2016-08-01T23:18:57 < PaulFertser> mra90: it's not of any use for C projects, yes. 2016-08-01T23:19:06 < PaulFertser> But ST startup calls it just in case. 2016-08-01T23:19:27 < mra90> ok, thank you guys ;) 2016-08-01T23:19:29 < Steffanx> oh didnt know it was c++ only. 2016-08-01T23:20:51 < PaulFertser> I think it might be used for some other languages too. 2016-08-01T23:20:53 < PaulFertser> But not for C. 2016-08-01T23:21:13 < mra90> btw, what is this " __attribute__" 2016-08-01T23:21:52 < mra90> ok I found it 2016-08-01T23:22:23 < PaulFertser> But in my projects where I use the st shit-library and their startup I count on __libc_init_array being provided by newlib and add void _init() {} to main.c 2016-08-01T23:23:38 < mra90> PaulFertser: can I found definition of that funtion on my machine? 2016-08-01T23:24:44 < mra90> http://static.grumpycoder.net/pixel/uC-sdk-doc/initfini_8c_source.html -> there is delcration of _init() but no definition? Where is it? 2016-08-01T23:24:52 < PaulFertser> mra90: __libc_init_array ? Yes, if you untar the newlib sources somewhere. 2016-08-01T23:25:57 < PaulFertser> mra90: _init() is supposed to come from c++ support lib from g++. In C projects it's not present so I just define a dummy one myself. 2016-08-01T23:27:08 < mra90> I use arm none eabi and there is newlib dir but contains only one file newlib.h and it doesnt contain what I wanted 2016-08-01T23:31:40 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T23:36:10 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T23:37:08 < PaulFertser> mra90: told ya, you need newlib sources to see the code 2016-08-01T23:37:20 < PaulFertser> mra90: what do you want to see anyway? 2016-08-01T23:37:44 < mra90> PaulFertser: just see how it is defined on my machine - so they provided precompiled files only? 2016-08-01T23:37:46 < mra90> I mean compiler... 2016-08-01T23:38:11 < PaulFertser> Who they? 2016-08-01T23:39:27 < Rickta59> do you want to know exactly what it is ? or just and idea of what it does? mra90 2016-08-01T23:40:35 < mra90> Rickta59: both 2016-08-01T23:40:56 < mra90> PaulFertser: they I meant compiler.. 2016-08-01T23:41:17 < PaulFertser> mra90: haha man, you're so strange 2016-08-01T23:41:57 < PaulFertser> How can "compiler" provide any files, what does it mean? 2016-08-01T23:42:34 < PaulFertser> You know asking the right question is half the answer. 2016-08-01T23:43:13 < PaulFertser> So if you meant to ask if GNU ARM Embedded binary tarballs come without sources, then the answer would be "yes". 2016-08-01T23:43:18 < mra90> PaulFertser: well ok, this call to __libc_init_array calls come compilers file right ? 2016-08-01T23:43:28 < PaulFertser> And it's pretty obvious from the download page of the GAE project. 2016-08-01T23:43:58 < Rickta59> all it does is invoke any constructors 2016-08-01T23:44:10 < PaulFertser> mra90: no, not right. ST startup has a cal to __libc_init_array function. This function is supposed to come from newlib, not compiler (libgcc). 2016-08-01T23:44:13 < Rickta59> most of the time it is empty 2016-08-01T23:44:14 < mra90> and my question is how this instrction bl __libc_init_array know where to look for __libc_init_array? 2016-08-01T23:44:39 < PaulFertser> mra90: it doesn't, the linking step assembles everything together and puts the right address. 2016-08-01T23:44:53 < PaulFertser> The compiler is not involved by that time. 2016-08-01T23:45:03 < mra90> but there is nothing in linker script that references __libc_init_array? 2016-08-01T23:45:10 < anton02> do you agree with my zypsnip 2016-08-01T23:45:28 < PaulFertser> (well, unless you use LTO but it's still not involved in external symbols' addresses resolution) 2016-08-01T23:45:32 < Rickta59> arm-none-eabi-nm startupcode.o ... look for 'U' symbols 2016-08-01T23:45:52 < Rickta59> or whatever your startcode.s or .c is called 2016-08-01T23:46:13 < PaulFertser> mra90: why there should be anything special in the linker script regarding that single function?.. 2016-08-01T23:47:10 < mra90> Rickta59: U symbol? 2016-08-01T23:47:24 < Rickta59> undefined 2016-08-01T23:47:53 < mra90> PaulFertser: well you said it is solved in linkage stage that;s why 2016-08-01T23:48:18 < mra90> to look up symbols in startup.o -> nm startup.o ? 2016-08-01T23:49:10 < Rickta59> this is for pc code or stm32 code? 2016-08-01T23:49:16 < mra90> stm32 code 2016-08-01T23:49:22 < Rickta59> http://dpaste.com/306MS5B 2016-08-01T23:49:46 < PaulFertser> mra90: I think you need to read more about how linking works. The LD scripts alter some behaviour but the general idea remains the same. The script doesn't need to include all the external symbols, it's what linker always does on its own. 2016-08-01T23:51:18 < mra90> Rickta59: so what's the conlucion of that? 2016-08-01T23:52:37 < Rickta59> 16:44 < mra90> and my question is how this instrction bl __libc_init_array know where to look for __libc_init_array? 2016-08-01T23:52:48 < Rickta59> you asked how it knows .. it knows because it is undefined 2016-08-01T23:52:54 < Rickta59> so it starts searching 2016-08-01T23:53:14 < Rickta59> in that example i gave .. it isn't in there because I have it in the code itself 2016-08-01T23:53:26 < Rickta59> * i don't like with the startup files 2016-08-01T23:53:29 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-01T23:53:41 < Rickta59> link not like 2016-08-01T23:54:51 < mra90> hmm still I cannot see how as solves this call bl __libc_init_array? 2016-08-01T23:55:04 < mra90> there is defined nowhere in the code 2016-08-01T23:55:10 < Rickta59> right .. 2016-08-01T23:55:26 < mra90> so it should warn: no such definition... 2016-08-01T23:55:27 < Rickta59> so it uses the gcc lib search path 2016-08-01T23:55:33 < Rickta59> it is asm code it isn't c 2016-08-01T23:55:49 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-01T23:56:11 < mra90> well as also warns doesn't it? 2016-08-01T23:57:12 < mra90> as - AS (assembler) 2016-08-01T23:58:01 < Rickta59> I guess it might if you turn it on, although I've not gone to that point 2016-08-01T23:58:08 < mra90> Rickta59: so it finds this __libc_init_array function (it is function right?) in one of those .a files rihjt? 2016-08-01T23:58:17 < Rickta59> yes 2016-08-01T23:58:21 < Rickta59> does your code link? 2016-08-01T23:58:27 < mra90> sure 2016-08-01T23:58:36 < mra90> works perfect 2016-08-01T23:58:38 < Rickta59> turn on the mapfile output linker option 2016-08-01T23:58:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-01T23:58:40 < mra90> I am just studying it ;) 2016-08-01T23:58:43 < Rickta59> and see where it comes from 2016-08-01T23:58:51 < mra90> good idea... 2016-08-01T23:58:54 < Rickta59> it will show the lib file and the archive member in it 2016-08-01T23:58:57 < Rickta59> for that function 2016-08-01T23:59:16 < mra90> huh it's huge file 2016-08-01T23:59:20 < mra90> for what I should look for? 2016-08-01T23:59:59 < mra90> "/../../arm-none-eabi/lib/armv7e-m/fpu\libc.a(lib_a-init.o)" --- Day changed Tue Aug 02 2016 2016-08-02T00:01:35 < mra90> ok so we found where it resided but the conslusion is I won't be able to find source file of it and its presumably for c++ and since my code works without it.. I can remove this bl call? huh ;) 2016-08-02T00:01:39 < Rickta59> i think after you create the mapfile it will be obvious 2016-08-02T00:01:49 < Rickta59> do you use c++? 2016-08-02T00:01:56 < mra90> no just C and ASM 2016-08-02T00:02:05 < Rickta59> some of the libc stuff i think uses constructors 2016-08-02T00:02:43 < mra90> so it might be used by C code? 2016-08-02T00:02:46 < Rickta59> if you use arm-none-eabi-nm on the elf file 2016-08-02T00:02:57 < mra90> ok 2016-08-02T00:02:58 < Rickta59> and you look at the start array address and the end array address 2016-08-02T00:03:11 < mra90> btw, is arm none ebai good and recommeded compielr? 2016-08-02T00:03:12 < Rickta59> if they are the same then you aren't using any constructors that get called 2016-08-02T00:03:22 < Rickta59> i have no idea 2016-08-02T00:03:26 < Rickta59> which stm32? 2016-08-02T00:03:37 < mra90> F446 2016-08-02T00:03:55 < Rickta59> sure that is good unless someone is paying for a commercial compiler 2016-08-02T00:04:04 < Getty> someone knows what kind of CPUs those kind of registers have? http://www.sharp.de/cps/rde/xchg/de/hs.xsl/-/html/produktdetails.htm?product=UP600 2016-08-02T00:04:24 < Rickta59> is this for work or are you just screwing around? 2016-08-02T00:04:30 < mra90> Rickta59: nm main.elf |grep U returned no U 2016-08-02T00:04:44 < mra90> Rickta59: learning purposes 2016-08-02T00:04:50 < Rickta59> hopefully you won't have any undefines in the final product 2016-08-02T00:04:52 < Rickta59> :) 2016-08-02T00:05:06 < mra90> so what's the conclusion 2016-08-02T00:05:18 < Rickta59> sounds like you have too much time on your hands 2016-08-02T00:05:27 < mra90> heh 2016-08-02T00:05:31 < mra90> I just want to understand 2016-08-02T00:07:05 < mra90> well there is U __libc_init_array after nm startup.o but not after nm main.elf? 2016-08-02T00:07:09 < mra90> what does it mean? 2016-08-02T00:07:29 < Rickta59> it means startup.o needed it and the linker found it when it created the final link 2016-08-02T00:07:55 < mra90> main.elf doesn't need it? 2016-08-02T00:08:01 < Rickta59> sure it needs it 2016-08-02T00:08:07 < Rickta59> and it will have an address 2016-08-02T00:08:09 < Rickta59> what is it? 2016-08-02T00:08:36 < Rickta59> the easiest way to see what it does is crank up your debugger and stop at it and walk through the asm 2016-08-02T00:08:53 < Rickta59> or go look at newlib c sources 2016-08-02T00:09:10 < mra90> 0x08000344 2016-08-02T00:09:21 < Rickta59> google say this as first hit 2016-08-02T00:09:24 < Rickta59> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15265295/understanding-the-libc-init-array 2016-08-02T00:10:44 < mra90> ok 2016-08-02T00:10:52 < Rickta59> http://newlib.sourcearchive.com/documentation/1.18.0/init_8c-source.html and that is like the 4th hit 2016-08-02T00:10:52 < mra90> nm output which is "W" means what? 2016-08-02T00:11:04 < Rickta59> man nm 2016-08-02T00:11:32 < mra90> "No manual entry for nm" :P 2016-08-02T00:11:56 < Rickta59> well there is always google :) 2016-08-02T00:12:14 < Rob235> I hope I'm not messing up these props :P never balanced one before 2016-08-02T00:12:54 < mra90> ;) 2016-08-02T00:13:44 < mra90> but going back to this call __libc_init_array 2016-08-02T00:14:21 < mra90> does linker do anything with it? 2016-08-02T00:16:38 < Rickta59> http://dpaste.com/1JX0X90 .. if you look at that ..start and end addresses are that same .. if i didn't link in __libc_init_array .. nothing bad with happen with this specfic code other than getting smaller 2016-08-02T00:18:17 < mra90> and what you said about searching compilers libs for __libc_init_array 2016-08-02T00:18:17 < mra90> doesn't have much sense "bl __libc_init_array 2016-08-02T00:18:17 < mra90> " is just call to specyfic label it doesn;t have anything to do with searching.... 2016-08-02T00:18:37 < Rickta59> that do you think the linker does? 2016-08-02T00:19:10 < Rickta59> it searches though the files you have supplied and the library paths for missing symbols 2016-08-02T00:19:12 < mra90> linker is one step later so doesn't matter now 2016-08-02T00:19:34 < Rickta59> it doesn't care about undefines until it links 2016-08-02T00:20:52 < mra90> so are you trying to say that AS doesn't see it but says "ok nothing wrong lets delegate it for linker"? 2016-08-02T00:21:12 < Rickta59> sure 2016-08-02T00:22:00 < mra90> one test now... 2016-08-02T00:22:39 < mra90> ok makes sense 2016-08-02T00:23:31 < mra90> I did test and when it fails to find linker complains " error: ld returned 1 exit status" not AS which confirms what you did say 2016-08-02T00:23:39 < mra90> Rickta59: thank you very much 2016-08-02T00:23:52 < Rickta59> sure 2016-08-02T00:24:42 < mra90> problem fully solved. Rickta59 thank you! 2016-08-02T00:26:00 < mra90> btw, http://dpaste.com/1JX0X90 2016-08-02T00:26:27 < mra90> start and end address are the same, so does it mean there is nothing? 2016-08-02T00:26:40 < Rickta59> right .. look at your linker script 2016-08-02T00:26:56 < mra90> and look for what? 2016-08-02T00:27:11 < Rickta59> PROVIDE(__init_array_start ... 2016-08-02T00:27:29 < mra90> yes 2016-08-02T00:27:29 < Rickta59> that is how those things get populated 2016-08-02T00:28:37 < mra90> well I have to study ld syntax it doesn;t say much to me now... 2016-08-02T00:29:51 < Rickta59> http://dpaste.com/2SC6Y1V 2016-08-02T00:29:59 < Rickta59> put that code in one of your c files 2016-08-02T00:30:15 < Rickta59> and then run the debugger ... you will never leave __libc_init_array 2016-08-02T00:31:08 < mra90> why? 2016-08-02T00:31:19 < Rickta59> after you compile you will see that the address of the function of foo is in that init array 2016-08-02T00:31:31 < Rickta59> because it is a infinite loop inside a constructor .. 2016-08-02T00:31:44 < Rickta59> __attribute__((constructor)) 2016-08-02T00:33:58 < mra90> ok 2016-08-02T00:36:11 < Rickta59> http://dpaste.com/3A5HCX6 2016-08-02T00:36:31 < Rickta59> so now i have a function address in the init array 2016-08-02T00:38:54 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699576.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-02T00:44:57 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-3096699588.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T00:48:52 < kakimir> vacuum bagging != resin infusion... I'm confused now 2016-08-02T00:49:16 < kakimir> oh 2016-08-02T00:50:04 < kakimir> vacuum bagging = wet laminate is sucked dry 2016-08-02T00:50:16 < kakimir> resin infusion = dry laminate is sucked wet 2016-08-02T00:50:42 < kakimir> #epoxy32 2016-08-02T00:51:11 -!- mra90 [~Martin@5.10.7.148] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-02T00:53:32 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-02T00:54:34 < kakimir> Steffanx: does Belgium exist? 2016-08-02T00:54:53 < Steffanx> no. 2016-08-02T00:56:14 < kakimir> why it's supposed to be there? 2016-08-02T00:57:57 < Steffanx> Too many bad fumes for kakimir today? 2016-08-02T00:58:37 < Steffanx> *toxic fumes 2016-08-02T01:04:21 < kakimir> I has some concpiracy fumes 2016-08-02T01:12:55 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0addf0.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-02T01:19:35 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvHcZciihJw "The Bielefeld Conspiracy" 2016-08-02T01:21:37 < Rob235> how far do you go when balancing props? do you balance hubs too? (saw some youtube vid) 2016-08-02T02:39:27 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-02T03:09:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T03:12:53 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-02T03:35:19 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T03:39:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:f8b1:465e:a7b0:7ff8] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-02T03:40:32 < anton02> Rob235: why are you using stm32 with a aircraft? 2016-08-02T03:41:39 < Rob235> why? 2016-08-02T03:46:58 < Rob235> anton02? 2016-08-02T03:47:23 < anton02> isn't it too much 2016-08-02T03:47:41 < Rob235> who cares? 2016-08-02T03:47:51 < Rob235> I don't think it is 2016-08-02T03:48:51 < anton02> is there any benefit in having more than 20Mhz 2016-08-02T03:51:38 < Rob235> if its a concern of power consumption, then nothing will be different when flight times are only like 20 min anyway. I like having all the dma and fpu and stuff. and I'm new to this stuff anyway. find someone else to pick apart for no reason. who the hell complains about having too much power... 2016-08-02T03:51:41 < LeelooMinai> There's benefit to not finding out that 20MHz is not enough:) 2016-08-02T03:52:25 < LeelooMinai> Current consumption may be better with high speed - you can do processing faster and then sleep, etc. 2016-08-02T03:52:30 < syke> dsp might benefit with higher resonance frequency on instability 2016-08-02T03:53:42 < Rob235> so fucking tired of people just picking apart everything I choose. 2016-08-02T03:53:45 < LeelooMinai> If you worry about power consumption, just use stm32L series - for example L4 - they are pretty nice and pretty efficient in terms of power usage. 2016-08-02T03:54:45 < Rob235> my point was power consumption isnt an issue AT ALL, over 15 minutes, the power consumption of the mcu is negligible compared to what actually drains the battery 2016-08-02T03:55:30 < LeelooMinai> Right,, and my point was that high speed does not necessarily mean you are wasting power. 2016-08-02T03:55:36 < zyp> anton02, is there any benefit in only having 20Mhz if you don't need more? 2016-08-02T03:56:12 < anton02> cheaper 2016-08-02T03:56:16 < Rob235> so I just realized I only have CCW blades, but put them all on just to see how it looks: http://imgur.com/a/VJywi 2016-08-02T03:56:20 < Rob235> gotta order some CW blades 2016-08-02T03:56:30 < zyp> anton02, what is? 2016-08-02T03:56:48 < anton02> slower mcus 2016-08-02T03:57:09 < zyp> I don't find that to be true 2016-08-02T03:57:10 < LeelooMinai> Cheoaer for what? Mass production of 1 million devices or for hobby project... Because for hobby, you want a bit overkilled mcu imo, to have better development experience. 2016-08-02T03:57:53 < Rob235> I plan on adding tons of autopilot features to the flight controller also so I'm going to want power 2016-08-02T03:58:30 < zyp> haha 2016-08-02T04:07:33 < upgrdman> ya, that way you can be lazy and use math functions and doubles everywhere 2016-08-02T04:08:18 < upgrdman> i wish i had more overhead so i could use floats :/ 2016-08-02T04:09:24 < zyp> the entire «don't buy more than you use» notion is silly, because it doesn't really translate into «don't pay for more than you use» 2016-08-02T04:10:48 < zyp> as far as I can see, at most atmega price points, there's also an stm32 that'll beat it on both performance and features 2016-08-02T04:11:31 < upgrdman> are there any ICs that: charge an 18650 via USB, and output 3v3 (or adjustable) regulated for mcu/fpga? 2016-08-02T04:12:44 < upgrdman> or if not, then s/18650/one NiMH AA and of course a boost converter 2016-08-02T04:14:00 < zyp> I remember I was looking for that a couple of years ago 2016-08-02T04:14:44 < upgrdman> theres lot of usb power bank ICs that output 5v, but if i can find one that'll do 3v3 i'd be so happy 2016-08-02T04:14:54 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28syc114k3avko3.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T04:15:13 < aandrew> anton02: not necessarily at all 2016-08-02T04:15:19 < zyp> power banks is a completely different problem, so parts specific to that would not be appropriate 2016-08-02T04:15:38 < zyp> (power banks usually can't charge and output power at the same time) 2016-08-02T04:15:59 < upgrdman> oh ya 2016-08-02T04:16:01 < upgrdman> forgot that 2016-08-02T04:16:41 < aandrew> upgrdman: I have a circuit I tend to use which can charge+power from usb 2016-08-02T04:16:51 < zyp> but anyway, what I found was that most usb to lithium charger chips could pass through power (and that way not subtract drawn current from the charge current) 2016-08-02T04:17:11 < zyp> but unregulated, so you would still need a separate regulator after that 2016-08-02T04:17:53 < zyp> and then there was some very integrated parts with like an LDO for powering RTCs and four different switching rails 2016-08-02T04:20:18 < upgrdman> well i guess i could take another route. are there any ICs that can charge a wide variety AND wide voltage range of batteries? like something that could chart 1-6 NiMH cells, 12v/24v Pb, some LiPos etc? 2016-08-02T04:20:38 < zyp> haha, wtf 2016-08-02T04:20:42 < upgrdman> inorite 2016-08-02T04:20:45 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/a/bxbtY is what I tend to use 2016-08-02T04:21:02 < aandrew> that MCP73811 is only good for a single cell though 2016-08-02T04:21:37 < upgrdman> ive been thinking about making a DC UPS but it'll need an IC to charge a 24V Pb battery 2016-08-02T04:21:51 < upgrdman> and if i can reuse ICs for various shits, that'd be neat 2016-08-02T04:21:54 < aandrew> although 2016-08-02T04:21:57 < upgrdman> but ya, im dreaming 2016-08-02T04:21:57 < zyp> aandrew, that's an even simpler part still, since you had to make the external bypass 2016-08-02T04:21:59 < aandrew> I think that I have that fucking FET backwards 2016-08-02T04:22:21 < aandrew> Q4 will be forward biased even if the fet is off and it's powered externally 2016-08-02T04:23:07 < aandrew> yep, source and drain need to be swapped 2016-08-02T04:23:09 < aandrew> fuck a duck 2016-08-02T04:23:31 < zyp> the body diode drawing showing you got a direct path from vbus to vbatt is a pretty good indicator you've fucked up something :p 2016-08-02T04:23:48 < aandrew> yeah, forest for the trees syndrome 2016-08-02T04:23:50 < upgrdman> "this is what i tend to use" ... "it doesnt work" 2016-08-02T04:23:54 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-02T04:24:00 < aandrew> staring at that schematic so long that I missed that 2016-08-02T04:24:11 < aandrew> upgrdman: not quite, *that* partiuclar incarnation is wrong 2016-08-02T04:24:26 < aandrew> but yeah, fail 2016-08-02T04:24:29 < upgrdman> im just poking fun 2016-08-02T04:24:35 < upgrdman> im sure youre super pro 2016-08-02T04:24:42 < aandrew> I'm super something 2016-08-02T04:28:57 < PeterM> upgrdman, if you have a high input voltage, a f0 + some external fets is enough to do all that 2016-08-02T04:29:17 < upgrdman> but how do i power the f0? 2016-08-02T04:30:05 < PeterM> flybuck 2016-08-02T04:30:30 < upgrdman> lolwut 2016-08-02T04:30:34 < PeterM> + a zener shunt regulator for startup 2016-08-02T04:30:38 < upgrdman> o 2016-08-02T04:31:07 < PeterM> instead of using a inductor for your buck, use a coupled inductor, use the secondary to power the f0 after startup 2016-08-02T04:32:10 < PeterM> or jsut use an aoz1282 2016-08-02T04:36:59 < zyp> http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/3552f.pdf <- oh, here's a single chip charger and buck reg 2016-08-02T04:38:07 < aandrew> that's not bad 2016-08-02T04:38:16 < aandrew> too bad all these fucking things want nothing more than 6 volts 2016-08-02T04:38:20 < zyp> I wonder if that one existed when I was looking 2016-08-02T04:38:23 < zyp> it's been a few years 2016-08-02T04:38:28 < aandrew> I ended up using a preregulator on one of my designs 2016-08-02T04:38:35 < aandrew> since it was supposed to be plugged into a car too 2016-08-02T04:38:46 < zyp> well, they're designed for usb in and uses a linear charge regulator 2016-08-02T04:38:55 < zyp> you want a switching one 2016-08-02T04:39:45 < aandrew> hm? 2016-08-02T04:39:53 < aandrew> that linear one is dual output switching 2016-08-02T04:40:30 < zyp> output side has two bucks, but the input to battery path is linear 2016-08-02T04:41:46 < zyp> «The LTC3552 is made up of two parts: a standalone constant-current/constant-voltage linear charger for a single-cell lithium-ion battery and a high efficiency dual DC/DC switching regulator.» 2016-08-02T04:41:52 < aandrew> oh, sorry 2016-08-02T04:41:53 < aandrew> yes 2016-08-02T04:45:07 < zyp> oh, LT got a separate section for this now 2016-08-02T04:45:07 < zyp> http://www.linear.com/parametric/Battery_Charger_Plus_DC%7cDC 2016-08-02T04:52:42 < jadew> I'm getting closer to releasing that MVC framework and with each step, I can't help but feel that I must have done something wrong 2016-08-02T04:53:08 < jadew> you know, when you're too excited about something and it turns out that you didn't think about some critical detail 2016-08-02T04:53:23 < zyp> that what? 2016-08-02T04:53:55 < jadew> that makes everything wrong 2016-08-02T04:54:11 < jadew> I almost finished its site and the benchmark results are just out of this world 2016-08-02T04:54:14 < zyp> I mean what framework? 2016-08-02T04:54:26 < jadew> it can handle 4000 clients per SECOND 2016-08-02T04:54:40 < jadew> on a i4 with 2 Gb of RAM 2016-08-02T04:55:03 < jadew> zyp, it's a framework I've been working on for a while 2016-08-02T04:55:39 < jadew> sorry, i5 2016-08-02T04:56:42 < zyp> what kind of framework? what does it do? 2016-08-02T04:57:08 < jadew> zyp, it's a MVC framework, it allows you to build websites and other web applications in a MVC fashion 2016-08-02T04:58:41 < jadew> if you want to build a site, unless you're doing something very specialized, then you're going to look into a MVC framework 2016-08-02T05:02:10 < zyp> sure, but that's not very descriptive 2016-08-02T05:02:29 < jadew> zyp, you want to know about what MVC actually is? 2016-08-02T05:02:51 < jadew> (I'm just not sure how much you know about this) 2016-08-02T05:03:01 < jadew> I can get into detail if you want to 2016-08-02T05:03:04 < zyp> I know what MVC is, but it's a too fucking generic term to get a sense of what you've actually made 2016-08-02T05:03:52 < jadew> well, a MVC framework basically allows you to start from simply implementing the controllers and the models and the views 2016-08-02T05:04:27 < jadew> while taking care of actually running them 2016-08-02T05:05:04 < jadew> the difference between the various ones out there is in how you have to implement those things 2016-08-02T05:05:18 < upgrdman> hmm seems like samsung 950 series ssd isnt available in 1tb :( only 850 series for 1tb 2016-08-02T05:05:27 < jadew> (as a user) 2016-08-02T05:06:31 < jadew> the difference are subtle when you look at the big picture, but if you look upclose, you'll notice the garbage 2016-08-02T05:06:36 < zyp> so anyway, this is a plain old serverside framework? 2016-08-02T05:06:40 < jadew> yep 2016-08-02T05:06:45 < upgrdman> jadew, mvc can be more simply described as: model = the data, controller = logic that middlemans access to the data, view = user interface 2016-08-02T05:07:22 < jadew> upgrdman, I think he understands that, what he wanted to know was what a MVC framework does 2016-08-02T05:07:31 < upgrdman> o ok 2016-08-02T05:07:37 < zyp> no, I wanted to know what makes your implementation special 2016-08-02T05:07:42 < jadew> ah 2016-08-02T05:07:46 < jadew> well, a lot of things 2016-08-02T05:07:50 < jadew> 1) it's not retarded 2016-08-02T05:07:53 < zyp> and what kind of environment it's written for 2016-08-02T05:08:08 < zyp> so far you've mentioned serverside, but not language 2016-08-02T05:08:10 < jadew> 2) it's very clean and very elegant 2016-08-02T05:08:13 < zyp> those are both big discriminators 2016-08-02T05:08:25 < upgrdman> what lang? php? ;) 2016-08-02T05:08:32 < jadew> upgrdman, yeah 2016-08-02T05:08:42 < zyp> haha, really? 2016-08-02T05:08:46 < jadew> yeah... 2016-08-02T05:08:49 < jadew> what else? 2016-08-02T05:08:51 < zyp> wow 2016-08-02T05:09:18 < upgrdman> hehe. php was the second lang i learned, and the first one i used for a big project. i still run some of my php blog code from like 11 years ago 2016-08-02T05:09:19 < jadew> there's no other choice for serious web dev 2016-08-02T05:09:28 < zyp> haha 2016-08-02T05:09:35 < upgrdman> java is still big for server-side, iirc 2016-08-02T05:09:43 < jadew> nah 2016-08-02T05:09:59 < jadew> it's all php, simply because it has too much momentum 2016-08-02T05:10:03 < jadew> as a language it sucks 2016-08-02T05:10:07 < upgrdman> i kinda wish the server side java was just java + inputstream/outputstream 2016-08-02T05:10:17 < upgrdman> and some libs for like cookies, etc 2016-08-02T05:10:31 < upgrdman> but they gay'd it all up like php do you mix code and html 2016-08-02T05:10:38 < upgrdman> s/do/so 2016-08-02T05:11:32 < zyp> «I can't help but feel that I must have done something wrong» 2016-08-02T05:11:34 < upgrdman> jadew, so this AmazeFramework of yours, has it been used in realworld testing yet? like a real web site with real users 2016-08-02T05:11:35 < jadew> well, you'd end up mixing them anyway 2016-08-02T05:11:42 < zyp> yeah, you've written a serverside framework in php in 2016 2016-08-02T05:11:48 < jadew> upgrdman, yeah 2016-08-02T05:11:58 < jadew> hehe zyp 2016-08-02T05:12:03 < jadew> there's really no other choice 2016-08-02T05:12:09 < upgrdman> yes there is 2016-08-02T05:12:12 < zyp> bullshit, there's tons of choices 2016-08-02T05:12:14 < upgrdman> even C could be better 2016-08-02T05:12:44 < jadew> ok, let me tell you why PHP is THE ONLY choice 2016-08-02T05:12:55 < jadew> 1) TONS of developers. 2016-08-02T05:13:00 < upgrdman> because you need to code snipped of stackoverflow? 2016-08-02T05:13:09 < jadew> meaning that companies get to pay less 2016-08-02T05:13:20 < jadew> meaning that they will favor it, over anything else 2016-08-02T05:13:37 < jadew> 2) Every hosting company out there, regardless of how stupid it is, it supports PHP 2016-08-02T05:13:45 < upgrdman> iirc the new hot shit is javascript everywhere. node.jizz etc 2016-08-02T05:13:51 < zyp> upgrdman, yeah 2016-08-02T05:13:53 < jadew> you don't need any special requirements, it will just work, even if you pay 50 cents/mo 2016-08-02T05:14:05 < jadew> no, node.js is stupid for websites 2016-08-02T05:14:11 < jadew> it was made for something entirely different 2016-08-02T05:14:14 < jadew> APIs 2016-08-02T05:14:22 < jadew> and it's not the best at that either 2016-08-02T05:14:27 < jadew> it's just a quick and dirty way of doing them 2016-08-02T05:14:32 < jadew> at that, it excels 2016-08-02T05:14:41 < zyp> jadew, well, sure, who wants a serverside framework in 2016? :p 2016-08-02T05:14:54 < jadew> zyp, heh 2016-08-02T05:15:14 < jadew> well, I hate JS based sites 2016-08-02T05:15:27 < jadew> they slow down my browser 2016-08-02T05:15:50 < jadew> and the result is the same, unless you want to implement that infinite scrolling shit 2016-08-02T05:16:07 < jadew> even then, you'd benefit from a classic website 2016-08-02T05:16:19 < jadew> so what do you choose when you want to build a website? 2016-08-02T05:16:21 < jadew> PHP 2016-08-02T05:16:29 < jadew> :) 2016-08-02T05:17:10 < zyp> I have to admit, php was one of the first languages I learned, I did a ton of shit with that as a kid 2016-08-02T05:17:41 < zyp> and then I learned some real languages, and I've never wanted to touch php again 2016-08-02T05:17:41 < jadew> don't get me wrong, I think PHP is garbage as a language, but I don't think it will go away anytime soon 2016-08-02T05:18:30 < zyp> I don't need php to go away, it existing doesn't restrict me from picking something else 2016-08-02T05:19:59 < jadew> it's all about the intended audience 2016-08-02T05:20:28 < jadew> I started writing a c++ frameowrk for apache once, that would load as a dynamic library 2016-08-02T05:20:32 < zyp> fair enough 2016-08-02T05:20:33 < jadew> nobody would use that tho 2016-08-02T05:20:40 < zyp> my intended audience is usually me 2016-08-02T05:21:40 < upgrdman> you planning to sell this framework 2016-08-02T05:21:52 < jadew> upgrdman, opensource 2016-08-02T05:22:08 < upgrdman> then who cares how many people like it 2016-08-02T05:22:24 < upgrdman> just put it on shithub and push updates when you feel like it 2016-08-02T05:22:31 < jadew> I do, because I didn't put that much time into releasing it for nothing 2016-08-02T05:22:39 < jadew> I don't care about documentation for example 2016-08-02T05:22:52 < jadew> and it's a huge effort to write 2016-08-02T05:23:12 < upgrdman> lol, that'll make your new framework real attractive. "no docs, enjoy!" 2016-08-02T05:23:19 < jadew> exactly 2016-08-02T05:23:31 < jadew> and since I did put the effort in, I'd like it to be used 2016-08-02T05:24:08 < upgrdman> there is where i publish early and often. no sense in pouring your heart into something if no one cares about it 2016-08-02T05:24:44 < upgrdman> if no one likes your rough draft, few will like your polished turd 2016-08-02T05:24:49 < zyp> so in other words, you're writing something that doesn't even have any users yet? 2016-08-02T05:24:59 < jadew> zyp, it does 2016-08-02T05:25:08 < jadew> but only at work 2016-08-02T05:28:46 < jadew> I never released frameworks before, so I really don't know how people start using them 2016-08-02T05:28:55 < jadew> but I wouldn't use a framework that has shitty documentation 2016-08-02T05:29:06 < upgrdman> post something on reddit 2016-08-02T05:29:09 < upgrdman> j/k 2016-08-02T05:29:37 < upgrdman> but uh, srsly: make SHORT demos. with screenshots. 2016-08-02T05:29:42 < jadew> so if you decide to release a framework, you kinda have to take the plunge and write the entire documentation 2016-08-02T05:30:04 < upgrdman> "i need a lib" "whats easy to use?" "how the fuck do i even use this, fuck it. next google result!" 2016-08-02T05:36:43 < jadew> I'll probably have to make a couple of youtube videos, it's not particularly easy to demo something like this in writing 2016-08-02T05:40:08 < upgrdman> how much code to do a HelloWorld? if your framework needs more than a screenfull of code for that, uh... 2016-08-02T05:40:57 < jadew> upgrdman, well, a hello world would still be a site 2016-08-02T05:41:14 < jadew> so you need an index file, a couple of folders 2016-08-02T05:41:32 < upgrdman> ya about that 2016-08-02T05:41:38 < jadew> a route file and the controller 2016-08-02T05:41:48 < upgrdman> how many line of code in all to write a helloworld 2016-08-02T05:42:13 < jadew> depends how you do it 2016-08-02T05:42:21 < jadew> could be 3 2016-08-02T05:42:30 < zyp> echo 'hello world'; 2016-08-02T05:42:32 < jadew> could be ~ 10 2016-08-02T05:42:33 < upgrdman> goto jadew.com, make it print "hello world from my gay framework" ... 2016-08-02T05:42:54 < jadew> upgrdman, a hello world would start from a blank template 2016-08-02T05:42:59 < jadew> that has all the folders in place 2016-08-02T05:43:01 < jadew> and the index file 2016-08-02T05:43:05 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-02T05:43:11 < upgrdman> and they just edit index.php? 2016-08-02T05:43:15 < jadew> no 2016-08-02T05:43:25 < jadew> they don't edit the index if they don't move stuff around 2016-08-02T05:43:34 < jadew> they just start creating controllers 2016-08-02T05:43:38 < jadew> and they edit the routes file 2016-08-02T05:43:56 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-02T05:44:02 < jadew> (which defines which URLs get mapped to which controllers/actions) 2016-08-02T05:44:30 < jadew> so for an over the top hello world, that makes use of all the features 2016-08-02T05:45:09 < jadew> you create a controller for it (a class), add an action (a function) and return a view :) 2016-08-02T05:45:17 < jadew> you can of course just echo 'Hello World' 2016-08-02T05:45:32 < jadew> then you need another file as the view that contains Hello World 2016-08-02T05:46:01 < zyp> I'm not really a fan of having a standalone route file 2016-08-02T05:46:12 < jadew> zyp, how would you rather do it? 2016-08-02T05:46:56 < zyp> I like the flask approach, where the view functions registers themselves under a parent 2016-08-02T05:47:15 < jadew> yeah, I wrote another MVC framework many years ago that did that 2016-08-02T05:47:38 < jadew> but it's not a great approach, because it limits you in what the URLs can look like 2016-08-02T05:47:48 < zyp> how so? 2016-08-02T05:48:07 < jadew> well, if they register themselves then you'll probably end up with controller/action 2016-08-02T05:48:27 < jadew> when you might just want some_random_/stuff/here calls this action, from this controller 2016-08-02T05:48:36 < jadew> it allows you to group things nicer 2016-08-02T05:49:16 < zyp> I'm not sure I see your point 2016-08-02T05:50:01 < jadew> when they register themselves they'll have the name of the actions/controllers in the URL, correct? 2016-08-02T05:50:20 < jadew> or you mean they add themselves to the route? 2016-08-02T05:50:26 < jadew> with a custom route 2016-08-02T05:50:29 < zyp> yeah 2016-08-02T05:50:32 < zyp> the latter 2016-08-02T05:50:41 < zyp> I mean, most of the time you want the former anyway 2016-08-02T05:50:42 < jadew> well, that's problematic too, because then it becomes hard to spot issues 2016-08-02T05:50:46 < zyp> but you're not restricted to that 2016-08-02T05:51:03 < jadew> conflicting routes and things like that 2016-08-02T05:51:19 < jadew> also, there's another problem with that 2016-08-02T05:51:34 < jadew> it would mean that you have to instantiate all the controllers before you can route the request 2016-08-02T05:52:01 < zyp> no? 2016-08-02T05:52:16 < jadew> how would they register themselves otherwise? 2016-08-02T05:52:22 < jadew> static method? 2016-08-02T05:52:37 < jadew> that might work 2016-08-02T05:52:38 < zyp> flask uses decorators 2016-08-02T05:52:43 < jadew> ah 2016-08-02T05:52:56 < jadew> well, it still requires the file to be loaded 2016-08-02T05:53:03 < jadew> I see the advantage there 2016-08-02T05:53:10 < jadew> but I'd still prefer all my routes in one file 2016-08-02T05:53:18 < jadew> you get a better sense of what's going on 2016-08-02T05:53:35 < zyp> that's not a problem since real languages doesn't have to start over from scratch for every single request :p 2016-08-02T05:54:00 < zyp> everything is loaded at startup and remains persistent as long as the server is running 2016-08-02T05:54:10 < jadew> hehe, yeah, if you have it running an ever lasting app, it's not an issue 2016-08-02T05:54:35 < zyp> that, by the way, is one of the big arguments against php 2016-08-02T05:54:57 < jadew> it's also an argument pro php 2016-08-02T05:55:09 < jadew> it can do all kind of garbage, leak, crash, etc 2016-08-02T05:55:13 < jadew> and it all goes away 2016-08-02T05:55:53 < jadew> but I agree, sometimes it's much better to have it running as a daemon 2016-08-02T05:56:26 < zyp> fastcgi handlers and the likes usually also handles restarting misbehaving childs, so that's not really a good point 2016-08-02T05:57:16 < jadew> yeah, that's true 2016-08-02T05:57:33 < zyp> I think I've seen some that allows you to set a max lifetime for childs too 2016-08-02T05:58:47 < jadew> I wonder how good PHP would be at this 2016-08-02T05:59:08 < jadew> serving multiple users from the same thread 2016-08-02T05:59:22 < zyp> just as bad as at everything else? :p 2016-08-02T05:59:28 < jadew> haha 2016-08-02T05:59:30 < jadew> probably 2016-08-02T06:00:20 < zyp> I mean, php already does serve multiple requests from the same thread, it just doesn't allow you to keep around your objects between them 2016-08-02T06:00:22 < jadew> the basic idea behind PHP is not bad, the problem is that the language itself is very limited 2016-08-02T06:01:14 < zyp> yes it is, the basic idea behind PHP was to be a more advanced SSI 2016-08-02T06:01:52 < zyp> which is why you always have to enclose your code in 2016-08-02T06:02:49 < jadew> and it works great, no? 2016-08-02T06:02:58 < zyp> no. 2016-08-02T06:03:02 < jadew> what's wrong with it? 2016-08-02T06:05:19 < zyp> it's remains of a notion that «here we're inserting dynamic elements into an otherwise static page» 2016-08-02T06:05:53 < jadew> that's actually great for templating 2016-08-02T06:06:10 < zyp> exactly 2016-08-02T06:06:17 < jadew> because that's exactly what you do 2016-08-02T06:06:43 < jadew> how else would you do it? 2016-08-02T06:06:58 < zyp> do what? 2016-08-02T06:07:11 < jadew> have a static page with dynamic content 2016-08-02T06:07:48 < zyp> but that's not what you're doing at all 2016-08-02T06:08:10 < zyp> I mean, do you have anything outside the block? 2016-08-02T06:08:26 < jadew> ah, you mean for regular code? 2016-08-02T06:08:33 < jadew> non HTML related? 2016-08-02T06:08:49 < jadew> yeah, that's a bit silly, but it's not that big of a drawback 2016-08-02T06:09:00 < jadew> it's like saying program whatever; in pascal :) 2016-08-02T06:09:15 < jadew> also the closing tag is optional 2016-08-02T06:09:29 < zyp> sure 2016-08-02T06:10:14 < jadew> would look at that as the reason why it sucks 2016-08-02T06:10:27 < zyp> my point is, what php is used for today isn't what it were designed to do 2016-08-02T06:10:43 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-02T06:11:45 < jadew> I just hope that it will get better 2016-08-02T06:11:49 < zyp> and so the problems with php go past the silly type coercion and the inconsistent library functions 2016-08-02T06:12:09 < jadew> they did made some important improvements in the past few years 2016-08-02T06:12:24 < jadew> but they come very slow and they always seem like a half arsed attempt 2016-08-02T06:12:36 < jadew> like they added namespaces, but they have shitty rules associated to them 2016-08-02T06:12:40 < zyp> could be 2016-08-02T06:12:56 < jadew> there's only single inheritance 2016-08-02T06:13:00 < zyp> last time I really touched php was back when php5 was the new hot shit and everybody were still using php4 2016-08-02T06:13:57 < jadew> well, php 5.6 I think it's the most widely available 2016-08-02T06:17:05 < zyp> is it still normal to intermix php files with static content? 2016-08-02T06:17:19 < jadew> depends on what you're doing 2016-08-02T06:17:32 < jadew> if you're making a view, sure 2016-08-02T06:18:40 < zyp> I mean, since php were originally meant to be inserted into static pages, it's designed to live together with the other files in the public directory tree 2016-08-02T06:18:51 < jadew> otherwise it's a no-no, especially in a MVC environment 2016-08-02T06:19:20 < zyp> which means that once you start keeping secret stuff like database passwords around, you need to start fucking with .htaccess files or shit to prevent them from being accessed 2016-08-02T06:19:25 < zyp> how's that solved nowadays? 2016-08-02T06:20:04 < jadew> that was never a problem 2016-08-02T06:20:26 < jadew> if you access a file that contains credentials you shouldn't see anything 2016-08-02T06:20:32 < jadew> because that file is not meant to display them anyway 2016-08-02T06:20:40 < jadew> at best, it's assigning them to something 2016-08-02T06:21:08 < zyp> assuming the secret file also is a .php script 2016-08-02T06:21:17 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-02T06:21:53 < jadew> if you have other types of secret files around, then you have to make sure you block access to them 2016-08-02T06:22:05 < jadew> but that's more of a http server configuration issue than anything 2016-08-02T06:22:20 < zyp> so that's still the normal approach? 2016-08-02T06:22:20 < jadew> in the end, the PHP application doesn't even have to be in the http root 2016-08-02T06:22:27 < jadew> not necessarily 2016-08-02T06:22:34 < jadew> you can have the application in /here 2016-08-02T06:22:45 < jadew> and the www root in /www 2016-08-02T06:22:49 < jadew> where you only have one file 2016-08-02T06:22:50 < jadew> index.php 2016-08-02T06:23:11 < jadew> it depends on your folder layout 2016-08-02T06:23:28 < jadew> with this configuration, the user can't access anything else 2016-08-02T06:23:46 < jadew> and you don't have to block access to any folders 2016-08-02T06:25:48 < zyp> the entire notion of having to dick around with shit in www root for dynamic webapps is weird to me 2016-08-02T06:26:14 < jadew> well, you have to at least keep your images somewhere 2016-08-02T06:27:06 < jadew> that's what you get with dedicated HTTP servers 2016-08-02T06:28:17 < jadew> I have to go to bed, gym in 4 hours 2016-08-02T06:28:22 < jadew> see ya 2016-08-02T06:35:05 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-02T06:39:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d933:477a:e375:c490] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T07:10:39 < Rob235> are PID values for pitch and roll axes the same? 2016-08-02T07:10:46 < Rob235> or just close 2016-08-02T07:14:26 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0addf0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T07:17:01 < upgrdman> doubt they would be the smae 2016-08-02T07:17:13 < Rob235> ok 2016-08-02T07:17:28 < upgrdman> but prolly a decent starting point 2016-08-02T07:17:51 < Rob235> if my props get here by early next week I'm going out tues or wed to start testing 2016-08-02T07:18:18 < Rob235> gonna be sunny with low wind 2016-08-02T07:18:20 < Rob235> as of now 2016-08-02T07:35:14 < upgrdman> hmmm need something to read why on a plane for 13 hours 2016-08-02T07:35:33 < upgrdman> anyone know of something nice, robotics related to read? 2016-08-02T07:35:56 < upgrdman> tempted to find some PID shit to read 2016-08-02T07:40:37 < jpa-> Rob235: for quadcopter i would expect them to be pretty much the same, but for a plane no :P 2016-08-02T07:41:19 < jpa-> for quadcopter it just depends on how asymmetric your design is 2016-08-02T07:41:49 < Rob235> its a hex, so id assume same as a quad 2016-08-02T07:42:25 < jpa-> hmm, in a hex it seems you would have a lot more asymmetry between pitch/roll 2016-08-02T07:42:38 < Rob235> its a little back heavy right now http://imgur.com/a/VJywi but I was gonna offset it by sliding the batteries a tiny bit forward 2016-08-02T07:45:25 < Rob235> guess i'll just have to go for it and see 2016-08-02T07:46:10 < Rob235> yea I guess pitch is tougher than roll on a hex 2016-08-02T07:46:27 < Rob235> might affect needed pid values 2016-08-02T08:08:38 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T08:13:39 < Rob235> what is that even supposed to mean? 2016-08-02T08:15:16 < Rob235> I was falling asleep and somehow I woke up and am eating taco bell 2016-08-02T08:16:43 < Rob235> I had taco bell for dinner and still had a crunchwrap sitting next to me so when I woke up I saw it and got hungry 2016-08-02T08:18:40 < Rob235> what are you doin 2016-08-02T08:18:53 < Rob235> I hope its more interesting than me 2016-08-02T08:21:05 < Rob235> well I can't decide if it's more interesting or not but at least yours won't negative affect your morning bm :) 2016-08-02T08:21:14 < Rob235> and on that note, i'm gonna get ready to fall asleep for good 2016-08-02T08:36:03 < c4017> Does this type of LCD need a driver IC or can it be driven directly from GPIO pins on a micro? http://tinyurl.com/h4gqlm9 2016-08-02T08:36:33 < jadew> can be driven 2016-08-02T08:37:15 < jpa-> STM32L152 and similar have built-in driver also 2016-08-02T08:37:24 < c4017> so it doesnt need any AC pulses? 2016-08-02T08:37:34 < jpa-> but you can drive it with GPIO, it just needs a square wave driving 2016-08-02T08:37:48 < jpa-> it does, but you can make AC out of GPIO 2016-08-02T08:39:32 < c4017> will common need to go between 0v and 3.3v or do the signal pins just need a square wave to keep the segment active? 2016-08-02T08:40:43 < jpa-> both need square wave (so that you get equal amount of time in both positive and negative polarity) 2016-08-02T08:42:05 < c4017> ok, sounds simple enough 2016-08-02T08:42:44 < jpa-> main reason why you'd use a dedicated controller is lower power usage 2016-08-02T08:46:11 < c4017> hmm i hadnt considered a micro with built in lcd 2016-08-02T08:46:25 < c4017> that may be a more sensible route 2016-08-02T09:01:01 < c4017> probly doesnt help that it's going to fly 2016-08-02T09:01:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-02T09:10:55 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T09:13:51 < c4017> flight controller board 2016-08-02T09:14:00 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T09:18:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T09:42:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-02T09:47:24 < qyx> I understand this http://www.gradconn.com/images/products/nautilus_problem_solution.jpg 2016-08-02T09:47:27 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T09:47:34 < qyx> even this one http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB173E6JFXXXXbaXpXXq6xXFXXXo/2pcs-font-b-Connector-b-font-font-b-SMA-b-font-female-jack-bulkhead-font-b.jpg 2016-08-02T09:47:51 < qyx> but I don't get how is this supposed to be waterproof http://image.dhgate.com/albu_217846003_00/1.0x0.jpg 2016-08-02T09:48:02 < qyx> wtf those chinamen 2016-08-02T09:48:51 < qyx> ordered some sample waterproof sma connectors and they sent me those 2016-08-02T09:50:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:d933:477a:e375:c490] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-02T09:52:25 < jpa-> well if the inside is waterproof, you can probably install that to a box without letting water leak inside.. doesn't help for the connection though :P 2016-08-02T09:59:07 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T09:59:37 < qyx> it would be ok if the connector body was wider to properly touch the o-ring 2016-08-02T10:00:18 < jpa-> ah, and that :P 2016-08-02T10:00:31 < PeterM> i assume they think the nut is tightened sufficiently, the o-ring would deform and faill the space appropriately, but that isn't something i would rely on 2016-08-02T10:00:34 < jpa-> looks like it atleast has a washer behind it? 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2016-08-02T12:26:09 < jpa-> hmm wait, you need to be in "View -> 2D Layout Mode"? 2016-08-02T12:26:29 < Ecco> I was in board planning mode 2016-08-02T12:26:30 < Ecco> lemme se 2016-08-02T12:26:40 < Ecco> oh indeed 2016-08-02T12:26:40 < Ecco> thanks 2016-08-02T12:27:08 < Ecco> Hmm weird 2016-08-02T12:27:26 < Ecco> Oh no great 2016-08-02T12:27:28 < Ecco> thanks a lot :) 2016-08-02T12:27:55 * jpa- succeeds in reading the manual 2016-08-02T12:28:21 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-02T12:28:34 < Ecco> Well, for some reason 2016-08-02T12:28:34 < Ecco> they asked to be in "board planning mode" earlier on that page 2016-08-02T12:28:44 < Ecco> so I didn't think to switch back to 2D 2016-08-02T12:28:52 < Ecco> thanks though 2016-08-02T12:29:08 < jpa-> yah, looks like you put the outer edge in "board planning mode" but cutouts in 2D mode for some reason 2016-08-02T12:37:40 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-02T12:49:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec206a0-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-02T13:13:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T13:13:57 < Tectu> hello people of ##stm32 o/ 2016-08-02T13:25:05 < jpa-> hi people of Tectu \o 2016-08-02T13:25:24 < Tectu> How are you, people of jpa- ? 2016-08-02T13:25:27 < Jak_o_Shadows> hi 2016-08-02T13:26:24 < jpa-> at work, trying to strangle the people of code 2016-08-02T13:30:53 < Ecco> Guys, is there any technique I should be aware of when routing an IC with quite a few pins 2016-08-02T13:30:58 < Ecco> (i.e. QFP64) 2016-08-02T13:33:08 < jpa-> that's a small IC ;) 2016-08-02T13:33:29 < jpa-> there are a ton of techniques but no silver bullets 2016-08-02T13:33:32 < Ecco> Yeah, it is :) 2016-08-02T13:33:39 < Ecco> I guess 2016-08-02T13:33:44 < Ecco> I'm just looking for some general guidance 2016-08-02T13:34:00 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T13:34:15 < jpa-> how many layer pcb? 2016-08-02T13:34:41 < Ecco> 2 2016-08-02T13:35:16 < Ecco> Actually it's even closer to 1 2016-08-02T13:35:23 < Ecco> because I have to cram stuff on the back 2016-08-02T13:35:34 < jpa-> so you'll have lots of ground trouble also 2016-08-02T13:35:41 < jpa-> well, first of all you'll want to rotate the chip so that most connections are on the side where they are going 2016-08-02T13:36:12 < jpa-> then pin-swap everything until it seems remotely manageable - most of the time you have multiple alternatives for which GPIO etc. you can use 2016-08-02T13:36:21 < Ecco> oh, I see 2016-08-02T13:36:25 < Ecco> Good idea, this I didn't do 2016-08-02T13:36:39 < Ecco> I'm using the FSMC which isn't very flexible 2016-08-02T13:36:44 < Ecco> but that's a good tip, thanks 2016-08-02T13:36:45 < jpa-> and when routing fast/important lines, keep the ground with it (e.g. if you route SPI CLK/MISO/MOSI, also route one line of GND with it) 2016-08-02T13:37:40 < jpa-> on a 4-layer pcb you would have a gnd layer to handle that, but in your case you have to take care of the GND routing yourself 2016-08-02T13:38:50 < zyp> FSMC on the 64-pin? 2016-08-02T13:39:52 < Ecco> yeas 2016-08-02T13:39:55 < Tectu> I'm using the FSMC which isn't very flexible 2016-08-02T13:40:04 < Tectu> you know that the 'F' in 'FSMC' stands for 'Flexible' right? :p 2016-08-02T13:40:10 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-02T13:40:11 < jpa-> Ecco: if you are using FSMC for a SRAM chip or similar, you can freely change most of the address and data lines around 2016-08-02T13:40:13 < Ecco> Lol :-) 2016-08-02T13:40:49 < Ecco> How? I mean, if I swap the data lines then I'll have to write "weird" data 2016-08-02T13:40:54 < Ecco> oh I see 2016-08-02T13:40:56 < jpa-> :) 2016-08-02T13:40:58 < Ecco> if it's a RAM you don't care 2016-08-02T13:40:59 < Tectu> nah, you read back what you write :) 2016-08-02T13:41:02 < Ecco> exactly 2016-08-02T13:41:08 < Ecco> but I'm using it to interface an LCD 2016-08-02T13:41:16 < Tectu> just don't do it with dual-port stuff :D 2016-08-02T13:41:18 < Ecco> so that nifty trick isn't applicable 2016-08-02T13:41:18 < jpa-> yeah, doesn't help in that case 2016-08-02T13:41:44 < Ecco> Great tip though 2016-08-02T13:42:00 < Ecco> Also the 2nd layer is full but still has plenty of room for ground 2016-08-02T13:42:08 < jpa-> if you don't need very fast display, you could just use SPI-connected LCD instead 2016-08-02T13:42:11 < Ecco> I'm using a polygon pour 2016-08-02T13:42:30 < Ecco> jpa-: Yeah, I did that, but I'm explicitely switching to the FSMC because SPI was too slow 2016-08-02T13:42:32 < jpa-> Ecco: remember that the ground has to follow the same route as the high-speed signal 2016-08-02T13:42:46 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-02T13:42:49 < jpa-> it is not enough to have a pour that goes around stuff 2016-08-02T13:42:57 < Ecco> hmm 2016-08-02T13:43:00 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-02T13:43:06 < Ecco> At what speed would it start to be relevant? 2016-08-02T13:43:08 < jpa-> (well, it is enough if your goal is to build a loop antenna) 2016-08-02T13:43:15 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-02T13:43:15 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-02T13:43:40 < jpa-> >1MHz if you wish to comply to EMC specs, >50MHz if not (these are assuming reasonable rise/fall times) 2016-08-02T13:44:03 < zyp> if the design is complex enough that it's a real problem, you might as well say fuck it and go 4L 2016-08-02T13:44:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T13:44:29 < Ecco> makes sense 2016-08-02T13:44:30 < Laurenceb__> someone from this channel? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-36950013 2016-08-02T13:45:07 < jpa-> http://essentialscrap.com/eink/pcb.jpg here you can see between the topmost lines on the bus i have connected the copper pours together (no real results on how much it helps) 2016-08-02T13:46:01 < Ecco> I can't figure out where to look 2016-08-02T13:46:25 < jpa-> below "L1" text near the middle of the pcb 2016-08-02T13:46:43 < jpa-> one of those similar looking lines is GND, which you'll see if you follow it to the right 2016-08-02T13:46:54 < Ecco> oooh 2016-08-02T13:47:01 < jpa-> that's something a copper pour wouldn't do automatically, but pretty easy to add by hand 2016-08-02T13:47:16 < jpa-> and without doing that, there wouldn't be any good ground path there 2016-08-02T13:47:28 < Ecco> I see 2016-08-02T13:47:30 < zyp> you'll also have to avoid running traces on both top and bottom 2016-08-02T13:47:36 < Ecco> I still haven't found the GND trace, but I understand 2016-08-02T13:47:37 < zyp> parallel traces, I mean 2016-08-02T13:47:45 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-02T13:48:23 < jpa-> Ecco: you see the triangular copper pour below C5 text? look to the left corner of it 2016-08-02T13:48:39 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/NjEyT.JPG <- here's another example, check the horizontal traces under the chip 2016-08-02T13:48:43 < Ecco> oh yeah 2016-08-02T13:48:47 < Ecco> awesome 2016-08-02T13:49:09 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-02T13:49:14 < zyp> parallel top and bottom traces are offset from each other 2016-08-02T13:49:37 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-02T13:49:52 < jpa-> yeah, basically just have to check and make small adjustments to make sure the grounds connect nicely 2016-08-02T13:49:56 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-02T13:50:09 < Ecco> Well all the other pins will be driven very slowly 2016-08-02T13:50:18 < Ecco> but the FSMC pins will be at ~15MHz 2016-08-02T13:50:47 < Ecco> so I'll have to pay attention to routing the GND close to the data pins, is that correct? 2016-08-02T13:51:01 < jpa-> yeah 2016-08-02T13:51:04 < Ecco> great, thanks 2016-08-02T13:51:30 < jpa-> and for actually getting them routed, remember that it is not a shame to put a few 0R resistors in places :P 2016-08-02T13:51:44 < zyp> haha, what 2016-08-02T13:52:04 < zyp> why would you do that? 2016-08-02T13:52:04 < Ecco> that allows for a fake extra layer 2016-08-02T13:52:16 < Ecco> so you can cross two traces on the top layer 2016-08-02T13:52:19 < jpa-> yeah, basically a jumper wire that looks less crappy :P 2016-08-02T13:52:25 < zyp> I get that, but why? 2016-08-02T13:52:37 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-02T13:52:43 < Ecco> Yeah, so far I resorted to using a via on the 2nd layer 2016-08-02T13:52:53 < jpa-> why did the chicken cross the street? because pin 15 was on the other side 2016-08-02T13:52:53 < Ecco> but it's true that you may get to a point where that doesn't work 2016-08-02T13:52:57 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-02T13:54:40 < zyp> what size 0R would you use for that? 2016-08-02T13:55:26 < jpa-> 1206 or 0805 2016-08-02T13:55:52 < zyp> in other words, huge as fuck 2016-08-02T13:56:07 < jpa-> yep 2016-08-02T13:56:15 < zyp> i.e. waste a buch of area on top layer to avoid using a little of bottom layer 2016-08-02T13:56:26 < dongs> would you use L151 in a new design? 2016-08-02T13:57:06 < zyp> who? 2016-08-02T13:57:10 < jpa-> i would, because i always use L151 :P 2016-08-02T13:57:11 < dongs> anyone in general 2016-08-02T13:57:22 < dongs> STM32L151VCH6 is $2 2016-08-02T13:57:41 < dongs> and I got a workshit i need a bunch of I/Os for in one device and low power in another 2016-08-02T13:58:29 < Tectu> dongs, may I bug you about those snapshots again? 2016-08-02T13:58:39 < dongs> why not 2016-08-02T13:58:40 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T13:58:44 < dongs> but why the fuck are you still figuriung them out 2016-08-02T13:59:32 < zyp> isn't V kinda huge if you don't need a bunch of IOs in the other? 2016-08-02T13:59:47 < dongs> yes but size doesnt amtter 2016-08-02T13:59:52 < dongs> and current device has a 144pin 2016-08-02T13:59:55 < zyp> wait, is H qfn? 2016-08-02T14:00:11 < dongs> oh what the fuck 2016-08-02T14:00:15 < dongs> its UFGBGA or someshie 2016-08-02T14:00:18 < zyp> ah 2016-08-02T14:00:22 < zyp> T is qfp 2016-08-02T14:00:29 < zyp> I don't know the others 2016-08-02T14:00:31 < Tectu> dongs, as you mentioned the live/online snapshot also snapshots the RAM content etc. However, taking such a snapshot takes several minutes (depending on the size of the VM). What I don't understand is this: I start doing a snapshot, keep using the machine during that time. Now, it starts taking snapshots of some parts of the system, the system changes during the snapshotting time (which is like 2 minutes here). When it's 2016-08-02T14:00:31 < Tectu> at the end, the stuff in RAM, files on the disk and so on are no longer the same like when it started taking the snapshot. So the snapshot would essentially contain "different states" of the system, no? 2016-08-02T14:00:55 < jpa-> Tectu: magic of copy on write 2016-08-02T14:00:56 < dongs> Tectu: once snapshot is taken, the ram/etc used at that moment is locked 2016-08-02T14:01:05 < dongs> if vm needs other shit, it will allocate new as needed 2016-08-02T14:01:11 < dongs> yeah wat jpa said 2016-08-02T14:01:15 < Tectu> ah, I see 2016-08-02T14:01:30 < zyp> the whole point of a snapshot is that it's consistent 2016-08-02T14:01:31 < Tectu> so I can snapshot and don't worry about keeping to use my system. it will restore exactly like it was the moment I clicked the "take a snapshot" button? 2016-08-02T14:01:33 < dongs> once it started saving. you're already making changes to something "new" 2016-08-02T14:01:36 < dongs> right 2016-08-02T14:01:39 < Tectu> great 2016-08-02T14:01:43 < Tectu> thanks for the clarification! 2016-08-02T14:02:06 < Tectu> how come it takes like 10ms to snapshot a VM that is shutdown/suspended but like 2 minutes for an online one? 2016-08-02T14:02:20 < dongs> 100ufbga can fuck right off 2016-08-02T14:02:21 < dongs> god damn 2016-08-02T14:02:28 < dongs> haha 7x7 2016-08-02T14:02:40 < zyp> 0.8mm pitch? 2016-08-02T14:02:42 < dongs> 0.5mm 2016-08-02T14:02:44 < zyp> oh 2016-08-02T14:02:45 < zyp> haha 2016-08-02T14:02:54 < jpa-> Tectu: the offline one is already snapshotted, that's the way one suspends it 2016-08-02T14:03:03 < jpa-> (and powered off it has not RAM contents anyway) 2016-08-02T14:03:16 < Tectu> Okay 2016-08-02T14:03:21 < jpa-> not sure why it takes 2 minutes to snapshot online one for you though, more like 10 seconds for me 2016-08-02T14:03:37 < zyp> slow disk? 2016-08-02T14:03:42 < zyp> or more ram? 2016-08-02T14:03:46 < zyp> or a combination of both 2016-08-02T14:04:10 < Tectu> nah, fancy NVMe PCIe SSD and 3000 MHz DDR4 RAM 2016-08-02T14:04:14 < zyp> which virtualization system are we talkingabout anyway? 2016-08-02T14:04:18 < Tectu> VMware Workstation 12 Pro 2016-08-02T14:04:32 < Tectu> dongs, how long does an online snapshot take for you? 2016-08-02T14:04:42 < zyp> Tectu, well, how much ram do you give the VM? 2016-08-02T14:04:46 < Tectu> 32GB 2016-08-02T14:04:52 < dongs> wat 2016-08-02T14:04:54 < jpa-> maybe it just slows down the snapshotting so that it does not slow down the rest of your pc? 2016-08-02T14:04:54 < zyp> see 2016-08-02T14:05:02 < dongs> how much ram is in your pc? 2016-08-02T14:05:05 < jpa-> oh.. well, i have 1GB vm's :P 2016-08-02T14:05:06 < Tectu> 64GB 2016-08-02T14:05:06 < dongs> to give VM 32? 2016-08-02T14:05:09 < dongs> right ,k 2016-08-02T14:05:13 < dongs> most of my VMs are liek 1-2gb ram 2016-08-02T14:05:18 < dongs> since thats all they need 2016-08-02T14:05:19 < zyp> yeah, same 2016-08-02T14:05:32 < jpa-> 30*10 = 300 so 120 seconds doesn't seem that strange now :) 2016-08-02T14:05:44 < zyp> and it takes seconds to save/restore to a shitty spinning rust drive 2016-08-02T14:05:45 < Tectu> well, it's a win10 guest. It fucks your RAM hard 2016-08-02T14:06:03 < dongs> highest win i hve in vm is win7 embedded 2016-08-02T14:06:11 < dongs> otherwise XP 2016-08-02T14:06:19 < dongs> why would you want win10 in vm 2016-08-02T14:06:27 < Tectu> but 1G seems low for any desktop OS 2016-08-02T14:06:34 < Tectu> I would never go < 4G I guess 2016-08-02T14:06:41 < Tectu> unless you have a swapping fetish, that is 2016-08-02T14:06:52 < jpa-> my VM's are all just one-application boxes mostly, so 1GB is fine 2016-08-02T14:06:55 < zyp> wtf are you running in the VM anyway? 2016-08-02T14:07:12 < dongs> hmm L152 looks ok too 2016-08-02T14:07:35 < Tectu> it's my win10 development VM. it has all the shit from diptrace to Keil aidsVision... 2016-08-02T14:07:50 < dongs> .. why not install that shit in real system 2016-08-02T14:08:12 < Tectu> cuz if I leave my home/office I want that stuff to be with me so I just share the VM or move it 2016-08-02T14:08:28 < Tectu> I only have one license for Matlab, Keil, Crossworks, ... 2016-08-02T14:08:48 < Tectu> jpa-, how come you do the one-application-vm system? 2016-08-02T14:10:03 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-02T14:10:11 < zyp> Tectu, you have more than one computer that can run 32GB VMs? 2016-08-02T14:10:15 < Laurenceb__> why do you need multiple licenses ?! 2016-08-02T14:11:42 < Tectu> zyp, nah, I just lower it if I am on a different machine. that appears to work well 2016-08-02T14:12:08 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, cuz I am often not at home/office and I'd like to have some stuff with me while attending boring lectures 2016-08-02T14:12:26 < Laurenceb__> "some stuff" could be pr0nz 2016-08-02T14:12:50 < Laurenceb__> but seriously, cant you take license onto another machine? 2016-08-02T14:13:25 < Tectu> no. not with stuff like Keil µVision, MatLab, Crossworks... 2016-08-02T14:13:56 < Laurenceb__> ah, ages since I installed it lol 2016-08-02T14:13:57 < Tectu> they are NIC locked 2016-08-02T14:14:46 * Laurenceb__ "solved" his Qt issues 2016-08-02T14:14:49 < zyp> haha 2016-08-02T14:14:53 < zyp> locked to a virtual NIC 2016-08-02T14:15:00 < Laurenceb__> its some sort of lunix issue with rfcomm 2016-08-02T14:15:01 < zyp> that sounds legal :p 2016-08-02T14:15:32 < jpa-> Tectu: because at work we have to isolate stuff related to different customers a bit 2016-08-02T14:15:40 < Tectu> jpa-, makes sense 2016-08-02T14:15:50 < dongs> STM32L0 is M0 right? 2016-08-02T14:15:50 < Tectu> zyp, I told those people, nobody had any objection so far :p 2016-08-02T14:15:53 < dongs> or M0+ 2016-08-02T14:15:58 < Laurenceb__> at uni we had a license server system 2016-08-02T14:16:05 < Laurenceb__> dunno how hard that would be 2016-08-02T14:16:07 < Tectu> dongs, M0+ 2016-08-02T14:16:16 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, FlexLM? 2016-08-02T14:16:26 < Laurenceb__> I dont even know lol 2016-08-02T14:16:35 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, not all the software that I (have to) use does FlexLM and also those licenses are usually more expensive 2016-08-02T14:16:42 < dongs> L0 doesnt have 100pin pkg 2016-08-02T14:16:44 < dongs> so thats out 2016-08-02T14:16:55 < Laurenceb__> matlab would try to grab a license as it loaded, if it failed itd fail to load lol (happened all the time) 2016-08-02T14:17:00 < Laurenceb__> I see 2016-08-02T14:17:07 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T14:17:51 < Laurenceb__> I hate matlab gui so try to avoid it or use terminal over ssh 2016-08-02T14:18:10 < Laurenceb__> the gui gives me eye cancer 2016-08-02T14:18:23 < Tectu> how is your Qt stuff, Mr. Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-02T14:18:35 < jpa-> it's not cute 2016-08-02T14:18:43 < dongs> STM32L443VCT6 hmm 2016-08-02T14:18:45 < Laurenceb__> abandoned bluetooth and going for 868mhz now 2016-08-02T14:18:46 < dongs> that looks interesting 2016-08-02T14:18:49 < dongs> should be cheap if available 2016-08-02T14:19:08 < Laurenceb__> it seems to work reliably and with v low lag with cp2102 <-> SP1ML 2016-08-02T14:19:15 < Laurenceb__> but network stack needs more work 2016-08-02T14:20:44 < Laurenceb__> I know a guy who made a video editing tool in matlab... 2016-08-02T14:21:13 < Jak_o_Shadows> What do you think Matlab's number 1 problem is? 2016-08-02T14:21:21 < Jak_o_Shadows> and also what the easiest problem to fix is? 2016-08-02T14:21:27 < dongs> oh wat teh fuck, L4 has no eeprom 2016-08-02T14:21:48 < Laurenceb__> its slow and eats memory? 2016-08-02T14:22:22 < Laurenceb__> the gui is written in java O_o 2016-08-02T14:22:46 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, lol wut 2016-08-02T14:22:48 < Jak_o_Shadows> Well, I was going to say the bad namespacing, and indexing with the same brackets as function calling 2016-08-02T14:23:00 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, got a link to that? 2016-08-02T14:23:04 < dongs> hm L0 does have 100pin pkg 2016-08-02T14:23:05 < Laurenceb__> heh I don't really care about that 2016-08-02T14:23:28 < Laurenceb__> Tectu: iirc task manager will show you what is going on with the gui 2016-08-02T14:23:36 < Jak_o_Shadows> The bracket thing drives me crazy cause it's so dumb. 2016-08-02T14:23:49 < Laurenceb__> heh I find it easy to switch 2016-08-02T14:23:51 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, I was referring to the video editing tool 2016-08-02T14:24:01 < Laurenceb__> oh no, commercial tool 2016-08-02T14:24:15 < Laurenceb__> tho sometimes I stick matlab code in c files lol 2016-08-02T14:24:22 < Tectu> jpa-, what OS do you use for your per-application VMs? 2016-08-02T14:24:42 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, I have seen your C code, I don't want to see your matlab code. 2016-08-02T14:24:53 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-02T14:25:13 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, seriously, got a link to that video editing tool ? 2016-08-02T14:25:43 < Laurenceb__> no its commercial, as drag and drop style gui made in matlab for windows moviemaker level functionality 2016-08-02T14:26:06 < Jak_o_Shadows> suppose it's easier than learnign blender 2016-08-02T14:26:13 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, I am interested in seeing a screenshot/video, I don't care whether it's open source or not 2016-08-02T14:26:14 < jpa-> Tectu: depends on purpose, but currently most are ubuntu 2016-08-02T14:26:14 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-02T14:26:22 < Tectu> jpa-, okay 2016-08-02T14:26:29 < Laurenceb__> Tectu: dont have any, see windows movie maker :P 2016-08-02T14:26:35 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-02T14:26:42 < Laurenceb__> Tectu: just for you https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/tests/plotdata.m 2016-08-02T14:26:54 < Laurenceb__> about my only matlab code on the github lol 2016-08-02T14:27:18 < Jak_o_Shadows> Laurenceb__, so you can do stuff in C then nicely plot it? 2016-08-02T14:27:33 < Tectu> thanks Laurenceb__ 2016-08-02T14:27:55 < Tectu> actually less worse than I expected, but that's probably because one can't write nicely looking matlab code anyway 2016-08-02T14:28:00 < Laurenceb__> well matlab is nice for plotting, but gnuplot works for basic stuff 2016-08-02T14:28:33 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-02T14:29:02 < Tectu> cu folks o/ 2016-08-02T14:29:04 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-02T14:30:23 < Steffanx> Jpa- next time when you meet tectu. Tell him he aint dongs and should not immitate him :P 2016-08-02T14:30:31 < Steffanx> Just missed him 2016-08-02T14:30:55 < jpa-> i think i did already :) 2016-08-02T14:31:38 < Steffanx> Good. 2016-08-02T14:31:41 < jpa-> but we all miss Tectu, so you are not alone 2016-08-02T14:32:02 < Steffanx> I mean missed ad in. Just came here when he left. 2016-08-02T14:33:35 < jpa-> that's very common also, you come and then pretty soon after he is already leaving 2016-08-02T14:33:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T14:36:06 < zyp> no cuddling afterwards? 2016-08-02T14:37:02 < Laurenceb__> cuddling and GFE 2016-08-02T14:37:32 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/programming/Custom-XMOS-usb-interface/ retards still trying to use xmos 2016-08-02T14:38:03 < Laurenceb__> lul XMOS 2016-08-02T14:38:40 < Laurenceb__> "lets not use hardware peripherals like literally everyone else, lets use a core for _everything_ cuz we know better" 2016-08-02T14:40:54 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/C-Programming/tiny-code-port-stm-discovery/ ha ha ha 2016-08-02T14:41:06 < dongs> this guy wants to port a very complex motion control/gcode shit that currently only runs on tarduino 2016-08-02T14:41:10 < dongs> to stm 2016-08-02T14:41:11 < dongs> for $250 2016-08-02T14:41:32 < dongs> .. and is a paki 2016-08-02T14:41:33 < jpa-> sounds like smoothieware 2016-08-02T14:41:36 < dongs> so probly just outsourcing 2016-08-02T14:41:48 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28syc114k3avko3.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-02T14:41:53 < dongs> * gcode_parser.cpp - rs274/ngc Gcode parser 2016-08-02T14:41:54 < dongs> * This file is part of the TinyG project 2016-08-02T14:42:01 < dongs> jpa-: looks indepeneded from usual grbl trash 2016-08-02T14:42:07 < dongs> https://github.com/synthetos/g2/tree/edge/TinyG2 2016-08-02T14:43:00 < dongs> doesnt look to be using insaneC++ either 2016-08-02T14:43:11 < dongs> oops too soon 2016-08-02T14:43:13 < jpa-> some of smoothieware is just copypaste of marlin or something AVR code hacked a bit 2016-08-02T14:43:16 < dongs> static InputPin input_1_pin(kPullUp); 2016-08-02T14:43:23 < dongs> aids detected 2016-08-02T14:43:32 < jpa-> it even has comments like "ugly optimization for AVR, if we had a faster processor this could be more precise and actually work" 2016-08-02T14:43:45 < dongs> rite 2016-08-02T14:44:55 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Electronics/PCB-design-Schematic-capture-for/ 2016-08-02T14:44:58 < dongs> HA HA HA 2016-08-02T14:45:01 < dongs> budget $80 2016-08-02T14:45:05 < dongs> fucking pakis 2016-08-02T14:50:15 < Rob235> crt: you are still here! 2016-08-02T14:50:25 < Rob235> mornin1 2016-08-02T14:50:26 < Rob235> ! 2016-08-02T14:50:29 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-02T14:50:31 < Rob235> brb 2016-08-02T14:50:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-02T14:59:08 < Ecco> Is there a way in Altium to rename resistor in order to group them by value? 2016-08-02T14:59:28 < Ecco> e.g. R1,2,3 = 220ohm, R4,5,6 = 10kOhm, R7,8,9 = 1Mohm 2016-08-02T14:59:41 < dongs> ? 2016-08-02T14:59:46 < dongs> 'rename'? 2016-08-02T15:00:12 < dongs> you can select the ones you wanna update and change value for all at once in inspector? 2016-08-02T15:00:16 < dongs> if thats what youre asking 2016-08-02T15:00:28 < Ecco> Not sure 2016-08-02T15:00:38 < Ecco> currently I placed resistor a bit randomly 2016-08-02T15:00:42 < Ecco> and had Altium number them 2016-08-02T15:00:45 < Ecco> so R1 is 10kohm 2016-08-02T15:00:50 < Ecco> R2 is 220ohm 2016-08-02T15:00:52 < Ecco> R3 is 10 k 2016-08-02T15:00:55 < Ecco> and so on 2016-08-02T15:01:02 < Ecco> I'd like Altium to renumber the resistors 2016-08-02T15:01:09 < dongs> you want to order designators by value? 2016-08-02T15:01:11 < Ecco> so that, in that example, R1 becomes R2 and R2 becomes R1 2016-08-02T15:01:12 < Ecco> exactly 2016-08-02T15:01:16 < dongs> a bit dumb but 2016-08-02T15:01:19 < Ecco> Why? 2016-08-02T15:01:25 < Ecco> What would be a smarter way? 2016-08-02T15:01:29 < Ecco> Currently designators are random 2016-08-02T15:01:41 < Ecco> I thought I might as well have them grouped 2016-08-02T15:01:43 < dongs> T-E, then T-A 2016-08-02T15:01:47 < dongs> and play with shit in that d ialog 2016-08-02T15:01:49 < Ecco> so that it's easier for me 2016-08-02T15:01:55 < dongs> hmm 2016-08-02T15:01:58 < dongs> i dont think you can base it on value tho 2016-08-02T15:02:06 < dongs> easier how 2016-08-02T15:02:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-02T15:02:12 < Ecco> Yeah I don't think it's possible, but I can do it manually 2016-08-02T15:02:14 < Ecco> well 2016-08-02T15:02:18 < Ecco> I have a box of 10k resistors 2016-08-02T15:02:23 < zyp> why the fuck would you group it by value? 2016-08-02T15:02:26 < Ecco> it's easier for me to just remember "ok those are R2 to R8" 2016-08-02T15:02:31 < dongs> Ecco: .. 2016-08-02T15:02:33 < dongs> on PCB 2016-08-02T15:02:36 < dongs> right click 10k resistor 2016-08-02T15:02:39 < dongs> find similar 2016-08-02T15:02:43 < dongs> it'll highlight them all 2016-08-02T15:02:47 < dongs> then go and place the shit 2016-08-02T15:02:54 < zyp> usually designator is set by sch location 2016-08-02T15:02:59 < dongs> yeah 2016-08-02T15:03:09 < Ecco> That's how altium does it by default 2016-08-02T15:03:17 < Ecco> But that doesn't seem very useful 2016-08-02T15:03:21 < dongs> .. 2016-08-02T15:03:26 < zyp> true 2016-08-02T15:03:26 < Ecco> If you use a pick'n'place machine, you indeed don't care 2016-08-02T15:03:30 < Ecco> but if you hand-solder 2016-08-02T15:03:31 < dongs> http://vid.pr0gramm.com/2016/07/31/e01eba7d7c8c2747.mp4 zyp, you need this 2016-08-02T15:03:33 < zyp> when you add them incrementally it doesn't matter 2016-08-02T15:03:34 < Ecco> boy it's a pain 2016-08-02T15:03:38 < dongs> Ecco: i just told you 2016-08-02T15:03:56 < dongs> right click 10k, find similar, check 10k or whatever, it'll select them all 2016-08-02T15:03:56 < Ecco> I don't really understand what it has to do with the PCB view actually 2016-08-02T15:04:02 < zyp> dongs, haha, I saw that a few days ago 2016-08-02T15:04:03 < dongs> IF YOURE ASSEMBLING 2016-08-02T15:04:07 < dongs> YOU LOOK AT THE FUCKING PCB VIEW 2016-08-02T15:04:10 < Ecco> oh 2016-08-02T15:04:12 < Ecco> I see 2016-08-02T15:04:14 < dongs> to know where the parts are?????????? 2016-08-02T15:04:17 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-08-02T15:04:23 < Ecco> I have a small desk 2016-08-02T15:04:31 < Ecco> Not running Altium near the soldering iron 2016-08-02T15:04:35 < Ecco> (doesn't fit) 2016-08-02T15:04:38 < Ecco> so I just print the BOM 2016-08-02T15:04:40 < dongs> wellllllll uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 2016-08-02T15:04:46 < dongs> then print the fucking board view 2016-08-02T15:04:55 < Ecco> Yeah but it's painful 2016-08-02T15:04:58 < zyp> well, uh, print the BOM grouped by value then 2016-08-02T15:04:58 < dongs> and sort bom by value/designator 2016-08-02T15:05:01 < zyp> usually it is 2016-08-02T15:05:03 < Ecco> Yes 2016-08-02T15:05:10 < Ecco> This I do 2016-08-02T15:05:10 < dongs> then just mark shit off on paper or something 2016-08-02T15:05:15 < Ecco> Yeah :) 2016-08-02T15:05:19 < dongs> but really, you're just trying to find solutions for non-problem 2016-08-02T15:05:24 < dongs> is what it looks ilke to me 2016-08-02T15:05:27 < Ecco> Please hear me out 2016-08-02T15:05:40 < Ecco> I have 10 different resistor values 2016-08-02T15:05:43 < Ecco> nothing big right 2016-08-02T15:05:44 < Ecco> but still 2016-08-02T15:05:52 < Ecco> that means 10 boxes of tiny parts 2016-08-02T15:05:57 < Ecco> it's easy to get mixed up 2016-08-02T15:06:02 < Ecco> so I solder them box by box 2016-08-02T15:06:08 < zyp> of course you do 2016-08-02T15:06:10 < Ecco> I open the 10k box 2016-08-02T15:06:10 < dongs> yeah i know man 2016-08-02T15:06:12 < Ecco> and solder those 2016-08-02T15:06:14 < Ecco> but then 2016-08-02T15:06:16 < dongs> so sort the fucking BOM 2016-08-02T15:06:16 < Ecco> It's annoying 2016-08-02T15:06:22 < Ecco> you have to look at the BOM 2016-08-02T15:06:22 < dongs> by part value 2016-08-02T15:06:25 < zyp> when hand assembling you always do all of a kind at once 2016-08-02T15:06:26 < Ecco> and go R2, R5, R19 2016-08-02T15:06:38 < Ecco> it'd be just easier for me to have R2,3,4 2016-08-02T15:06:44 < zyp> why? 2016-08-02T15:06:51 < zyp> how would it be easier? 2016-08-02T15:06:56 < Ecco> because when you're tired it's easier to mix things up 2016-08-02T15:07:06 < Ecco> "wait was it R19 or R17?" 2016-08-02T15:07:09 < Ecco> if they're in order 2016-08-02T15:07:11 < Ecco> it's easier 2016-08-02T15:07:17 < Ecco> ok I just did R16, now it's R17 2016-08-02T15:07:27 < Ecco> That's just a little bit easier I agree 2016-08-02T15:07:40 < Ecco> but apart from that I don't see the point of numbering any differently 2016-08-02T15:07:52 < Ecco> so I thought that it'd be great to order the designators this way 2016-08-02T15:08:03 < Ecco> it's only slightly better I agree 2016-08-02T15:08:11 < Ecco> but I don't see any drawback 2016-08-02T15:08:23 < zyp> waste of time? 2016-08-02T15:09:17 < zyp> you'll spend more time rearranging the designators and arging about it on irc than it would take to just double check that you read the number right 2016-08-02T15:09:45 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-02T15:09:47 < Ecco> That's true 2016-08-02T15:09:51 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ygivsVa.png 2016-08-02T15:09:54 < dongs> how is this view 2016-08-02T15:10:04 < dongs> why does designator even matter 2016-08-02T15:10:20 < dongs> you can easily see how many of which type you need 2016-08-02T15:10:23 < dongs> and just go down the list 2016-08-02T15:10:24 < Ecco> Sure 2016-08-02T15:10:48 < Ecco> But I mean it takes time to even lay the designator on the silkscreen 2016-08-02T15:11:02 < Ecco> so I thought it'd be just a little bit more convenient 2016-08-02T15:11:15 < dongs> fuck man you're just a stoner 2016-08-02T15:11:21 < dongs> get a new pc/desk 2016-08-02T15:11:22 < dongs> problem solved 2016-08-02T15:11:31 < Ecco> well true 2016-08-02T15:11:41 < dongs> I can't imagine how the fuck you're hand-assembling shit without a screen that shows wehre the shit is 2016-08-02T15:11:42 * Laurenceb__ is getting confused by RTS/CTS 2016-08-02T15:11:52 < dongs> even on the most simple boards I did years ago i'd still ahve dicktrace open 2016-08-02T15:11:52 < Laurenceb__> are there two modes of operation? 2016-08-02T15:11:56 < dongs> and parts highlighting 2016-08-02T15:12:02 < dongs> Laurenceb__: its just a signal 2016-08-02T15:12:13 < Ecco> I have the scematics on an iPad 2016-08-02T15:12:14 < Laurenceb__> yeah thats what I thought 2016-08-02T15:12:27 < Laurenceb__> but I see a "request acknowledge" mode 2016-08-02T15:12:31 < dongs> Ecco: mstsc /console into the windows machine then 2016-08-02T15:12:32 < dongs> ffs 2016-08-02T15:12:39 < dongs> and view the fucking altium pcb view 2016-08-02T15:12:47 < dongs> faggotpad has remote desktop right. 2016-08-02T15:13:10 < Ecco> yeah that's not a bad idea 2016-08-02T15:13:22 < Laurenceb__> SP1ML is supposed to have CTS/RTS but the RTS output is always high 2016-08-02T15:13:23 < dongs> but then you'll need a mouse and keyboard 2016-08-02T15:13:28 < dongs> what hte fuck is SPI1L 2016-08-02T15:13:38 < dongs> oh some rf trash 2016-08-02T15:15:29 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-02T15:15:44 < Laurenceb__> I'll explore with some pull up/down resistor hacks 2016-08-02T15:18:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T15:19:58 < Laurenceb__> http://simmonmt.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/rtscts-handshaking-and-waveforms.html 2016-08-02T15:20:13 < Laurenceb__> RTS and CTS are normally held high (TTL 1). When high, no request (RTS) has been made, and no permission (CTS) has been granted. When the PC is ready to send data, it brings TTL RTS low. The MCU sees this. When the MCU is ready to receive data, it brings TTL CTS low 2016-08-02T15:20:18 < Laurenceb__> why so confusing 2016-08-02T15:21:03 < dongs> pretty sure nothing past 1996 even cares about those signals 2016-08-02T15:21:54 < Laurenceb__> well for stm32 to stm32 its useful to avoid overfilling buffers 2016-08-02T15:22:08 < dongs> yes, sure 2016-08-02T15:23:12 < Laurenceb__> time to hack pcb and attach some magnet wire jumpers to force the signals 2016-08-02T15:24:28 < Laurenceb__> lul @ that code 2016-08-02T15:24:29 < Laurenceb__> #include 2016-08-02T15:25:10 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-02T15:25:10 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T15:29:06 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/VJywi (think it will fly with all CCW props? :P ) 2016-08-02T15:30:15 < jpa-> probably :) 2016-08-02T15:30:39 < Rob235> heh 2016-08-02T15:31:07 < jadew> what autonomy does it have? 2016-08-02T15:31:10 < Rob235> waiting for cw props is good anyway, instead of two extra props like I thought I'd have, now I'll have 10 extras which is more what I'll probably need to last a full day :) 2016-08-02T15:31:32 < Rob235> jadew: who me? 2016-08-02T15:31:36 < Rob235> nothing yet 2016-08-02T15:31:50 < jadew> the sixcopter 2016-08-02T15:31:52 < Rob235> I have sensor readings for pressure, ultrasonic and gps but its not doing anything with them yet 2016-08-02T15:32:01 < Rob235> just want to fly it first before I move on 2016-08-02T15:32:01 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/50ML-Epoxy-Resin-Gun-Dispenser-Static-Mixer-Mixing-Nozzle-Gun-Applicator-1-1-2-1-/151929449959 I think I move to using this kind of cool thing 2016-08-02T15:32:18 < jadew> I was thinking of getting/building a glider drone 2016-08-02T15:32:34 < jadew> but time is sparse 2016-08-02T15:33:17 < kakimir> I wonder if there is some standard for glue packs that allow me to use thatebay thing with brand glues 2016-08-02T15:33:20 < Rob235> this has been a hell of a long project... then again its my first electronics project, I started it a year and a half ago on an arduino 2016-08-02T15:33:39 < Rob235> I took at least 6-8 months of breaks though 2016-08-02T15:41:13 < dongs> which one 2016-08-02T15:42:38 < dongs> oh right 2016-08-02T15:42:45 < dongs> fucking stoners, i tell you 2016-08-02T15:42:59 < Laurenceb__> I hate those mixing guns 2016-08-02T15:43:17 < Laurenceb__> they never seem to mix properly and are single use 2016-08-02T15:44:05 < dongs> zyp, t he transshit charger, it will charge with C-C cable right? 2016-08-02T15:44:16 < dongs> AND charge itself by A-C cable? 2016-08-02T15:44:27 < dongs> so that plug is in/out/otg-esque 2016-08-02T15:47:21 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-02T15:48:08 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec206a0-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T15:51:59 < dongs> http://ot1.com/products/usb-power-delivery/otc9115-usb-3-1-cable-marker-chip 2016-08-02T15:54:55 < dongs> what teh fuck 2016-08-02T15:55:00 < dongs> tehy show chip layouts for all their shit 2016-08-02T15:56:32 < Sync> yeah why not? 2016-08-02T15:57:51 < dongs> http://www.via-labs.com/product_show.php?id=64 2016-08-02T15:57:52 < dongs> hmmm 2016-08-02T15:57:53 < dongs> that looks nice 2016-08-02T15:57:56 < dongs> ^ attn zyp 2016-08-02T15:59:48 < dongs> wat 2016-08-02T16:00:08 < dongs> looks fine for me in IE 2016-08-02T16:01:19 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-02T16:05:15 < Rob235> is it possible for someone like me (without experience/equipment) to solder a stm32 chip onto a circuit board? are there certain easy/cheap methods of doing so? 2016-08-02T16:08:03 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-02T16:08:41 < Rob235> for real? how 2016-08-02T16:08:51 < dongs> have you never soldered a QFP before 2016-08-02T16:09:00 < dongs> .google how to solder qfp 2016-08-02T16:09:02 < dongs> or someshit 2016-08-02T16:09:05 < dongs> tons of indian tutorials on youtube 2016-08-02T16:09:18 < Rob235> no but i'll look it up thanks 2016-08-02T16:09:18 < dongs> but basically, press + hold, tap 1 pin down with solder, tap opposite end, tehn do whatever teh fuck 2016-08-02T16:09:28 < dongs> to solder the rest 2016-08-02T16:12:47 < BrainDamage> there's multiple tecniques, if you don't give a fuck just flood with solder and wick off excess, then clean the bridges, it's not very reliable ( some pins will get more solder, some less ) but it's quick and works even if you have no experience 2016-08-02T16:13:03 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-02T16:13:54 < Rob235> qfn is different right? I search for qfp and youtube gives me tons of qfn results 2016-08-02T16:14:22 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJAByNlfkyE 2016-08-02T16:14:24 < dongs> try TQFP then 2016-08-02T16:14:31 < BrainDamage> qfp has legs, qfn not 2016-08-02T16:14:45 < dongs> 10 minutes, teh hell 2016-08-02T16:15:22 < dongs> and why the fuck he leaves a bump there 2016-08-02T16:15:27 < dongs> to make it align harder 2016-08-02T16:15:40 < dongs> but yeah basically wat i said 2016-08-02T16:16:00 < dongs> lets see how he handles the rest of hte pins 2016-08-02T16:16:14 < dongs> ok just normal shit 2016-08-02T16:16:15 < dongs> yeah that works 2016-08-02T16:16:23 < dongs> too much solder tho 2016-08-02T16:16:28 < Rob235> the stm32f4 disco has the highest pin count of that chip right? I can get one with fewer (and more importantly bigger) pins? 2016-08-02T16:16:39 < dongs> 0.5mm pitch is same 2016-08-02T16:16:58 < dongs> .. i think there's a 32pin 0.65mm pitch STM but you probly cantbuy it 2016-08-02T16:17:15 < Rob235> ok let me watch the vid before I give up from just looking at the disco board :P 2016-08-02T16:19:00 < Rob235> the vid you posted looks doable but they look huge compared to the stm32? 2016-08-02T16:19:11 < PeterM> ... 2016-08-02T16:20:38 * PeterM fffffffp 2016-08-02T16:23:32 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/381463220218 wat 2016-08-02T16:24:00 < dongs> too big of a dongle to be passive 2016-08-02T16:24:03 < dongs> way to ocheap to be active 2016-08-02T16:24:15 < dongs> o wait 2016-08-02T16:24:17 < dongs> dongle is wrong place 2016-08-02T16:24:22 < dongs> so just dP++ level shift 2016-08-02T16:24:46 < dongs> er, or not 2016-08-02T16:26:46 < qyx> em 2016-08-02T16:27:00 < qyx> do I remember correctyl you did something with pci express dongs? 2016-08-02T16:27:13 < qyx> 1x connector layout or whatever 2016-08-02T16:27:26 < dongs> yes 2016-08-02T16:27:36 < dongs> did two things, 2016-08-02T16:27:49 < dongs> pcie splitteer 1x -> 2x 1x for riser cards 2016-08-02T16:27:56 < dongs> and pcie 1x -> usb3 bridge 2016-08-02T16:28:05 < qyx> uhm, no pcie1x->serial? 2016-08-02T16:28:10 < dongs> serial wat? 2016-08-02T16:28:16 < dongs> is there a pcie uart shit? 2016-08-02T16:28:23 < qyx> yes 2016-08-02T16:28:31 < dongs> well, idont see why it would be any different at all 2016-08-02T16:28:38 < dongs> from say usb or bridge or hwatever 2016-08-02T16:28:55 < dongs> how many uarts does it make 2016-08-02T16:29:02 < dongs> thats an awful waste of 3gbps or wahtever 1x link is 2016-08-02T16:29:09 < qyx> there are some bridges for 2/4 2016-08-02T16:29:30 < qyx> I am considering using it to connect to a stm32 on a pcie card 2016-08-02T16:29:31 < qyx> but meh 2016-08-02T16:29:34 < qyx> usb would be better 2016-08-02T16:29:55 < dongs> USB 100% 2016-08-02T16:29:59 < dongs> thats actually waht i did 2016-08-02T16:30:23 < dongs> i had pcie->usb3 4 ports, i didnt actually use usb3 part,s just usb2 2016-08-02T16:30:29 < dongs> 2 ports connected to shit I needed 2016-08-02T16:30:31 < dongs> and 1 port to stm32 2016-08-02T16:30:39 < dongs> for watching teh card/etc 2016-08-02T16:31:01 < dongs> but usb3 bridge was way cheaper than usb2 2016-08-02T16:31:11 < dongs> not to mention you cant even buy 2.0 shit anymore 2016-08-02T16:31:20 < qyx> mhm 2016-08-02T16:31:21 < dongs> and you just NC all the 3.0 signals 2016-08-02T16:31:40 < qyx> was that some bga or a regular package? 2016-08-02T16:31:41 < dongs> used the nec/renesas upd shit 2016-08-02T16:31:43 < dongs> nope 2016-08-02T16:31:44 < dongs> QFN 2016-08-02T16:31:50 < dongs> QFN48-ish or so, i forget 2016-08-02T16:31:54 < dongs> normal stuff. 2016-08-02T16:31:56 < qyx> nice 2016-08-02T16:32:01 < Ecco> QFN are awful to hand solder 2016-08-02T16:32:06 < dongs> and chips were <$2 or sometrash 2016-08-02T16:32:07 < qyx> ok, I'll do usb instead probably 2016-08-02T16:32:12 < qyx> Ecco: no. 2016-08-02T16:32:23 < dongs> nobody except Rob235 handsodlers in 2016 2016-08-02T16:32:26 < dongs> stencil + reflow 2016-08-02T16:32:37 < qyx> qfns are ok 2016-08-02T16:32:38 < dongs> bbl sleep 2016-08-02T16:32:39 < Ecco> Yeah, in that case, everything's easy :) 2016-08-02T16:32:44 < Rob235> ? you just told me to hand solder 2016-08-02T16:32:46 < Ecco> qyx: how do you solder those? 2016-08-02T16:32:53 < qyx> even with no hotair and stencil 2016-08-02T16:32:57 < Ecco> I tin the board 2016-08-02T16:33:05 < Ecco> then use a hot air gun 2016-08-02T16:33:11 < Ecco> but it's really hard to get right 2016-08-02T16:33:17 < qyx> Ecco: tin the pads, apply flux, hot air 2016-08-02T16:33:18 < qyx> or 2016-08-02T16:33:26 < Ecco> ok, that's how I've been doing it 2016-08-02T16:33:29 < qyx> tin the pads, apply flux, drag solder 2016-08-02T16:33:29 < Rob235> haha wtf, why did you tell me to look this up if it's the wrong way to do it? 2016-08-02T16:33:34 < Ecco> but I always end up with a few conneciton that don't work 2016-08-02T16:33:43 < Ecco> and I have to re-heat using either hot air or an iron 2016-08-02T16:33:45 < qyx> and solder the exposed pad through a via in the middle 2016-08-02T16:33:57 < Ecco> drag solder cannot work 2016-08-02T16:33:58 < Rob235> that was for you dongs 2016-08-02T16:33:59 < Ecco> the pad aren't visible 2016-08-02T16:34:06 < qyx> they are for qfns 2016-08-02T16:34:10 < qyx> gla don't have pads visible 2016-08-02T16:34:13 < qyx> *lga 2016-08-02T16:34:17 < Ecco> bga 2016-08-02T16:34:17 < Ecco> ? 2016-08-02T16:34:20 < qyx> no, lga 2016-08-02T16:34:25 < PeterM> igla 2016-08-02T16:34:26 < Ecco> well qfn have an artifact on the side 2016-08-02T16:34:33 < Ecco> but that's not the real pad 2016-08-02T16:34:36 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K38_Igla 2016-08-02T16:34:53 < qyx> https://www.digchip.com/datasheets/photos/456/L3GD20TR.jpg 2016-08-02T16:35:10 < qyx> some accels/gyros/magnetometers are in LGA and a bit hard to solder 2016-08-02T16:35:25 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T16:35:28 < qyx> QFN is like http://cdn.nuvation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/QFN_small.jpg 2016-08-02T16:35:30 < Ecco> Next STM I'm soldering is qfn64 2016-08-02T16:35:38 < Ecco> qfp64 sorry 2016-08-02T16:35:41 < Ecco> hopefully that'll be easier 2016-08-02T16:36:14 < qyx> I tend to use QFN48 STM32F401 more than any other QFP parts 2016-08-02T16:37:19 < Ecco> That's a very good part 2016-08-02T16:37:22 < Ecco> Tiny package 2016-08-02T16:37:24 < Ecco> cheap 2016-08-02T16:37:26 < Ecco> rather fast 2016-08-02T16:41:06 < qyx> wtf I cannot even find pcie1x card dimensions 2016-08-02T16:43:24 < jpa-> http://koti.kapsi.fi/jpa/stuff/pix/lga14.jpg lga is easy :) 2016-08-02T16:44:10 < talsit> jpa-'s special glob-top formula 2016-08-02T16:44:19 < talsit> -snot- 2016-08-02T16:44:26 < jpa-> yep 2016-08-02T16:47:26 < PeterM> qyx doesnt altium have a template for that shit? 2016-08-02T16:50:26 < qyx> I don't altium 2016-08-02T16:50:48 < qyx> jpa-: lol 2016-08-02T16:59:54 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T17:00:06 < PeterM> qyx what do you use? jewcad? 2016-08-02T17:00:29 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T17:00:44 < qyx> eagle :S 2016-08-02T17:00:54 < PeterM> wow, thats just as bad 2016-08-02T17:03:37 < Rob235> what about stencils with solder paste and throwing it in the oven? 2016-08-02T17:16:14 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-02T17:21:58 < Laurenceb> solder paste and hot air works for me 2016-08-02T17:22:03 < Laurenceb> - using a stencil 2016-08-02T17:22:20 < Laurenceb> thats how I do one off prototypes 2016-08-02T17:25:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T17:26:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-02T17:26:15 < Rob235> I read logs. so stencil/solder paste is a good way to do it for a first timer? soldering by hand looks risky 2016-08-02T17:27:09 < PeterM> shits cheap 2016-08-02T17:27:18 < PeterM> you've got 10 boards 2016-08-02T17:27:54 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-02T17:29:50 < Rob235> so much to do :( gotta learn how to design a full pcb instead of a ghetto one that I just solder breakout boards to like I originally planned 2016-08-02T17:33:10 < Rob235> maybe I should get hover mode working first since I want to fly next week 2016-08-02T17:40:40 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T17:43:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T17:54:06 < Laurenceb> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1470149197448-2.jpg 2016-08-02T17:57:33 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-02T18:03:28 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-02T18:07:13 < Rob235> B! 2016-08-02T18:07:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-02T18:08:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.13] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T18:10:35 < Ecco> Rob235: The problem with stencil/paste is the equipment 2016-08-02T18:10:41 < Ecco> you have to get yourself a oven 2016-08-02T18:10:47 < Ecco> and if anything goes wrong you're fucked 2016-08-02T18:10:55 < Ecco> so you'll probably want to get an iron as well 2016-08-02T18:11:07 < Ecco> vs by hand, you may be able to do everything with only an iron 2016-08-02T18:11:13 < Ecco> also by the way 2016-08-02T18:11:20 < Ecco> where do you guys purchase solder paste? 2016-08-02T18:11:26 < Ecco> What brand/model would you recommend? 2016-08-02T18:13:59 < ReadError> Ecco fuck off 2016-08-02T18:14:04 < ReadError> you dont need stencils and shit 2016-08-02T18:14:28 < ReadError> or oven 2016-08-02T18:14:40 < Ecco> how then? 2016-08-02T18:14:46 < ReadError> mad skills 2016-08-02T18:14:46 < Ecco> also fuck you man 2016-08-02T18:14:48 < ReadError> i guess 2016-08-02T18:14:50 < Ecco> :-p 2016-08-02T18:14:51 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-02T18:15:06 < ReadError> ive done thousands of boards w/o that 2016-08-02T18:15:15 < Laurenceb> even with mad skillz it can go wrong 2016-08-02T18:15:16 < ReadError> > SMT JESUS 2016-08-02T18:15:19 < Ecco> And note that I've never said you *need* the stencil 2016-08-02T18:15:21 < Laurenceb> just use stencil, simple 2016-08-02T18:15:44 < Laurenceb> I thought this was crazy LGA stuff? 2016-08-02T18:17:59 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T18:18:52 < Ultrasauce> qfp by hand is trivial 2016-08-02T18:19:09 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-02T18:19:25 < ReadError> Ecco came in here 2 months ago having never done a board 2016-08-02T18:19:37 < aandrew> Ecco: I just got cheap shit (leaded, NOT lead-free) from digikey. it's not super critical unless you're doing production runs 2016-08-02T18:19:38 < ReadError> now hes tellin folks they need ovens, stencils 2016-08-02T18:20:03 < ReadError> and 'if anything goes wrong you're fucked' 2016-08-02T18:20:31 < Laurenceb> lul well qfp can be done by hand reliably for sure 2016-08-02T18:20:43 < Laurenceb> lga I can do unreliably 2016-08-02T18:20:49 < Laurenceb> so I prefer stencil 2016-08-02T18:20:57 < ReadError> you obviously not seen the foxconn training videos 2016-08-02T18:21:06 < ReadError> those guys do BGA by hand 2016-08-02T18:21:13 < Laurenceb> wtf O_o 2016-08-02T18:21:14 < ReadError> and 40$ hot air 2016-08-02T18:21:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.221.115] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T18:22:01 < Ecco> ReadError: I'm not saying they need a oven 2016-08-02T18:22:08 < Ecco> I'm saying the point of a stencil is to reflow in a oven 2016-08-02T18:22:25 < Ecco> so if you decide to use a stencil that means you need to buy a oven 2016-08-02T18:22:30 < Ecco> that's all I said 2016-08-02T18:22:34 < englishman> wat 2016-08-02T18:22:38 < ReadError> no it doesnt 2016-08-02T18:22:44 < ReadError> ur still wong 2016-08-02T18:22:48 < Ecco> ok :-) 2016-08-02T18:23:00 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.81.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T18:23:12 < ReadError> Rob235 dont bother with all this stencil/oven nonsense 2016-08-02T18:23:25 < Rob235> ok 2016-08-02T18:23:30 < aandrew> I used to SMT solder everything with just an iron. I do have a hot air station now (just a cheap yoyue 858d+) and it makes things signfiicantly easier. still dont' need paste 2016-08-02T18:23:30 < Rob235> just try by hand? 2016-08-02T18:23:39 < Rob235> what kind of iron tip? 2016-08-02T18:23:45 < ReadError> yea, get a syringe of paste 2016-08-02T18:23:48 < aandrew> paste is a pain in the ass unless you're using an oven 2016-08-02T18:23:52 < ReadError> and a needle 2016-08-02T18:24:04 < aandrew> I find paste is a real pain in the ass to move around even with a pin 2016-08-02T18:24:10 < ReadError> and you should have hot air tho 2016-08-02T18:24:10 < aandrew> paste+stencil = win 2016-08-02T18:24:17 < ReadError> but they are like 50$ 2016-08-02T18:24:22 < aandrew> if you're going by hand (even hot air) dont' use paste if you can avoid it 2016-08-02T18:24:33 < ReadError> aandrew its all about paste selection 2016-08-02T18:24:44 < Rob235> lasjdfl;ajsf;dgsj 2016-08-02T18:24:44 < ReadError> good paste will stick to the pad nicely 2016-08-02T18:24:49 < Rob235> thats how my brain feels right now 2016-08-02T18:24:55 < aandrew> ReadError: I've tried several, includign paste recommended by the pro assembly houses that work perfectly with their equipment 2016-08-02T18:25:02 < aandrew> Rob235: what are you trying to do? 2016-08-02T18:25:03 < ReadError> some paste wont appy by hand worth a crap 2016-08-02T18:25:09 < ReadError> zeph paste will though 2016-08-02T18:25:27 < ReadError> pro assembly houses by paste specifically for stenciling 2016-08-02T18:25:36 < Rob235> aandrew: I wanted to design a board for my drone, originally I was just going to make a shield for the f4 discovery but Id like to learn how to put everything on one board 2016-08-02T18:25:43 < Rob235> but wasn't sure how to solder something like an stm32 2016-08-02T18:25:50 < Rob235> with tiny ass pins 2016-08-02T18:25:50 < aandrew> oh and for the love of everything sacred and holy, get yourself some sticky flux. holy fuck balls man I have been doing this for probably 25 years and JUST started using sticky flux 2016-08-02T18:25:54 < aandrew> it's a game changer 2016-08-02T18:26:04 < Ecco> Rob235: The way I do it: buy a Hakko FX888D 2016-08-02T18:26:13 < Ecco> some good leaded solder 2016-08-02T18:26:13 < Rob235> Ecco: already have one 2016-08-02T18:26:16 < Ecco> tons of flux 2016-08-02T18:26:19 < Ecco> a thin tip 2016-08-02T18:26:26 < Ecco> and you should be good to go 2016-08-02T18:26:27 < aandrew> Rob235: my suggestion: start with the shield. get it working, then take EVERYTHIGN you learned making that shield to make a full custom control board 2016-08-02T18:26:33 < Ecco> I'd avoid QFN packages which I don't like 2016-08-02T18:26:46 < englishman> real pros use RoHS 2016-08-02T18:26:54 < aandrew> englishman: only because they have to 2016-08-02T18:26:58 < Ecco> yeah but for prototyping, meh 2016-08-02T18:27:04 < Rob235> what kind of thin tip, a chisel tip or just the smallest point you can find? 2016-08-02T18:27:05 < aandrew> lead-free is shit, everyone knows it 2016-08-02T18:27:12 < ReadError> I need lead, keeps my mind balanced 2016-08-02T18:27:19 < Ecco> Rob235: I got myself the thinnest tip 2016-08-02T18:27:21 < Ecco> I like it 2016-08-02T18:27:25 < Rob235> ok 2016-08-02T18:27:26 < aandrew> I have both tiny tiny tiny sharp point and a bit fucking thick point and a big chisel 2016-08-02T18:27:29 < ReadError> you dont want a thin tip 2016-08-02T18:27:31 < ReadError> they are useuless 2016-08-02T18:27:34 < Rob235> I have a few tips, i'll have to look at which I got though 2016-08-02T18:27:39 < ReadError> will lose heat instantly 2016-08-02T18:27:42 < aandrew> I liek the chisel even for fine stuff, you just use the "edge" or "point" and all that thermal mass tends to keep the iron hot 2016-08-02T18:27:42 < Ecco> well, I really like mine 2016-08-02T18:27:47 < Ecco> depends on what you solder 2016-08-02T18:28:00 < Ecco> unless you're soldering on a non-thermally-insulated-ground plane 2016-08-02T18:28:04 < Ecco> it works really well 2016-08-02T18:28:09 < aandrew> (mind you I use a shitty old Weller pro iron, better irons keep tiny tips super hot too) 2016-08-02T18:28:10 < ReadError> i use a bevel for everything pretty much 2016-08-02T18:28:31 < Ecco> The FX888D is really poweful and even the tiny tip remains really hot 2016-08-02T18:28:40 < Ecco> just my 2cents though 2016-08-02T18:28:49 < Rob235> I can't compare it to anything because its the only thing I have but I like the fx888d 2016-08-02T18:28:54 < Ecco> Anyway, I've soldered quite a few 0603 with a FX888D 2016-08-02T18:28:59 < Ecco> really easy 2016-08-02T18:29:01 < ReadError> ok, well having one, I wouldnt say its incredibly powerful or useful with a tiny tip 2016-08-02T18:29:13 < Ecco> I guess it's not the best 2016-08-02T18:29:18 < Ecco> but it does the job great 2016-08-02T18:29:20 < Ecco> and it's cheap 2016-08-02T18:29:26 < Laurenceb> https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9468711&cid=52625881 2016-08-02T18:29:29 < ReadError> and soldering quite a few 0603 isnt really something you should put on your SMT resume 2016-08-02T18:29:32 < Ecco> let's just say that so far I haven't felt the need for an upgrade 2016-08-02T18:29:47 < Rob235> can someone recommend something with similar pins to a stm32 chip that is cheap as hell so I can test? 2016-08-02T18:29:48 < Ecco> Sure, but that's probably the kind of thing Rob235 will want to do 2016-08-02T18:30:09 < Ecco> Rob235: just find some ewaste 2016-08-02T18:30:15 < Ecco> maybe an old videogame you're not using 2016-08-02T18:30:18 < Ecco> take it apart 2016-08-02T18:30:23 < Ecco> chances are you'll find a QFP on it 2016-08-02T18:30:27 < Rob235> true 2016-08-02T18:30:35 < Ecco> you can practice taking it apart with a hot air gun 2016-08-02T18:30:46 < Ecco> and soldering it back 2016-08-02T18:30:51 < Ecco> with either an iron or the gun 2016-08-02T18:30:54 < Rob235> does temp matter? I have a heat gun with two settings 2016-08-02T18:31:01 < ReadError> wont work 2016-08-02T18:31:02 < Ecco> well, yes it matters 2016-08-02T18:31:07 < ReadError> will blow shit everywhere 2016-08-02T18:34:03 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.81.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-02T18:38:06 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T18:41:31 < Rob235> are there libraries of things premade to add to altium? like stm32f4 chips 2016-08-02T18:42:02 < ReadError> some but 2016-08-02T18:42:07 < ReadError> lots are out of date 2016-08-02T18:42:16 < ReadError> so you will end up making yourself 2016-08-02T18:42:20 < Rob235> ok 2016-08-02T18:42:25 < Rob235> my brain already hurts :) 2016-08-02T18:43:13 < ReadError> what disco do u have?" 2016-08-02T18:43:35 < Rob235> f4 2016-08-02T18:44:13 < ReadError> ya but which 2016-08-02T18:44:21 < ReadError> i would say find a nucleo w/ same MCU 2016-08-02T18:44:35 < ReadError> then you can get some arduino shield template shit probably 2016-08-02T18:44:55 < Rob235> f407vg or something like that, I think I'm missing a letter, i'll look it up 2016-08-02T18:45:00 < ReadError> also even if the nucleo doesnt have exact MCU 2016-08-02T18:45:04 < ReadError> you can typically swap them 2016-08-02T18:45:38 < ReadError> then your sheild could just be pinheader shits for BoB 2016-08-02T18:45:53 < ReadError> no need to worry about fancy soldering 2016-08-02T18:46:05 < Rob235> I can make a shield fine, the point is I'm decided to try to avoid the shield and make my own single board 2016-08-02T18:46:28 < Rob235> no need to switch to something else if making a shield 2016-08-02T18:46:31 < ReadError> cost wise you will end up better off w/ a shield 2016-08-02T18:46:42 < Rob235> not worried about cost 2016-08-02T18:46:43 < ReadError> if you consider the f4 alone would be like 10-13 bux 2016-08-02T18:46:45 < Rob235> its about learning and cool factor :) 2016-08-02T18:46:56 < ReadError> ya, shield now gets you running 2016-08-02T18:47:06 < ReadError> then you can do the full board in parallel 2016-08-02T18:47:26 < ReadError> chances are the first might be fucked up anyways 2016-08-02T18:48:01 < Rob235> well I don't need a shield at all to get me running right now, its hooked up fine with a protoboard (not breadboard) (just have to solder things how they are) 2016-08-02T18:48:54 < Rob235> so if I'm going to decide to make a single board solution I'm not gonna waste time making a shield (even though I know what you mean that I can just add onto it 2016-08-02T18:49:07 < ReadError> nucleo + blank arduino shield ? 2016-08-02T18:49:33 < Rob235> no, I would just design a shield for the f4 discovery 2016-08-02T18:50:25 < Rob235> but I think I want to go the single board route now, if it's not too difficult I think it would be awesome 2016-08-02T18:50:42 < Rob235> I would like to get away from using a million breakout boards 2016-08-02T18:50:47 < ReadError> yea its not bad 2016-08-02T18:50:52 < ReadError> worst part is turn time 2016-08-02T18:50:58 < ReadError> submit, wait 2 weeks or so 2016-08-02T18:51:09 < ReadError> then hope you didnt fuck up heh 2016-08-02T18:51:12 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-02T18:51:33 < ReadError> I think ive only had 1 board thats been completely not worth assembling 2016-08-02T18:51:42 < ReadError> rest have all been fixable with 1 blue wire 2016-08-02T18:52:02 < Ecco> So far I've yet to build a perfect board on the first try 2016-08-02T18:52:13 < ReadError> was a dumb mistake, forgot to repour my polygons before exporting gerbs 2016-08-02T18:52:15 < Ecco> but like ReadError said, you'll most likely be able to fix it 2016-08-02T18:52:28 < Ecco> aouch, indeed, this wouldn't be easily fixable 2016-08-02T18:52:38 < Ecco> I've had to cut traces sometimes 2016-08-02T18:52:46 < Ecco> not beautiful, but gets the job done 2016-08-02T18:52:51 < Rob235> damn, new dna200 board was supposed to come today but it looks like I have to wait until tomorrow 2016-08-02T18:53:47 < Rob235> I'm sure none of you know what dna200 is so I'll save you the trouble, its a board to make your own vape 2016-08-02T18:54:03 < Rob235> they sent me a fucked up one 2016-08-02T18:54:26 < ReadError> i know what it is 2016-08-02T18:54:31 < ReadError> srs biz 2016-08-02T18:56:12 < Rob235> it uses some form of python and USB HID raw packets to communicate, gotta figure out how to work with that 2016-08-02T18:59:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T19:00:16 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-02T19:00:55 < Rob235> haven't had nicotine in 3 days, thought it would be a problem but I don't even notice 2016-08-02T19:13:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec206a0-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-02T19:14:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-02T19:23:38 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T19:27:09 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-02T19:30:21 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T19:30:45 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-02T19:34:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.13] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-02T19:34:58 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-02T19:36:16 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T19:36:38 < Laurenceb> emdrive 2016-08-02T19:41:36 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T20:01:37 < Rob235> turned the drone on with the props :) not as loud as I thought it would be 2016-08-02T20:03:20 < Rob235> only went to 30-40% throttle though 2016-08-02T20:07:05 -!- mra90 [~Martin@5.10.7.148] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T20:11:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-5cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T20:19:08 < englishman> does it fly, wilbur 2016-08-02T20:24:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T20:32:42 < Rob235> of course not, half the props are pushing it to the ground 2016-08-02T20:39:53 < Laurenceb> https://media2.8ch.net/pol/src/1470128127595.jpg 2016-08-02T20:55:05 < Tectu> fuck you ST, why would you connect the IRQ pin of the touchscreen controller to an I2C port expander 2016-08-02T20:55:09 < Tectu> on a fucking eval board 2016-08-02T21:03:27 < Sync> because 2016-08-02T21:04:41 < Steffanx> . 2016-08-02T21:06:01 < aandrew> Tectu: because you don't need to react quickly? 2016-08-02T21:13:07 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T21:13:15 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T21:15:26 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-02T21:33:52 < ReadError> https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1533600/star-of-viral-gingers-have-souls-meme-becomes-a-woman-after-undergoing-sex-change-procedure/ 2016-08-02T21:35:59 < Steffanx> can't you private message dongs and Laurenceb with that next time, thank you. 2016-08-02T21:36:45 < Tectu> agreed ^ 2016-08-02T21:38:50 < ReadError> sry 2016-08-02T21:41:46 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T21:43:04 < zyp> dongs, correct 2016-08-02T21:43:08 < zyp> C-port is both in and out 2016-08-02T22:00:18 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T22:00:35 < Rob235_> do any hobby shops actually sell rc parts like propellers? 2016-08-02T22:00:50 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.221.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-02T22:02:29 < Steffanx> isn't ReadError in that business? 2016-08-02T22:02:43 < ReadError> i dont sell anything Steffanx 2016-08-02T22:02:54 < ReadError> Rob235_ some might have limited shit 2016-08-02T22:02:58 < Steffanx> oh, i thought you did. Then im not sore sure what you do :P 2016-08-02T22:03:06 < Steffanx> *so sure 2016-08-02T22:03:08 < ReadError> but your best bet is to order online 2016-08-02T22:03:20 < Steffanx> i thought you made a living out of quad related stuff 2016-08-02T22:03:27 < ReadError> nah thats just a side thing 2016-08-02T22:03:28 < Rob235_> I already ordered, was hoping I could just pick up 3-4 props in the meantime to start testing pid 2016-08-02T22:03:45 < ReadError> you break some props already? 2016-08-02T22:04:56 < Rob235_> no, I guess you didn't hear from yesterday, I realized I ordered two sets of CCW props and don't have any CW 2016-08-02T22:06:28 < ReadError> oh heh 2016-08-02T22:11:34 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0addf0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T22:15:29 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-02T22:15:43 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-08-02T22:18:58 < kakimir> da winter is coming 2016-08-02T22:19:11 < Steffanx> GoT much kakimir? 2016-08-02T22:19:24 < kakimir> just Finland things 2016-08-02T22:19:53 < kakimir> I feel shit because I don't have wood heated little house/cabin of my own 2016-08-02T22:19:56 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T22:19:57 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/fnYYrMP.png 2016-08-02T22:20:09 < kakimir> and bath tub in middle of snow 2016-08-02T22:20:44 < Steffanx> dont forget the sauna in the backyard 2016-08-02T22:20:49 < Steffanx> near the lake 2016-08-02T22:20:49 < kakimir> yes 2016-08-02T22:21:06 < kakimir> or a pond 2016-08-02T22:21:36 < XTL> Had some hail today and loads of rain. It's practically winter. 2016-08-02T22:22:03 < Steffanx> And where was that? 2016-08-02T22:22:15 < Steffanx> oh fi as well 2016-08-02T22:22:23 < kakimir> it's like basically winter already.. sun just set and it's only 22:22 2016-08-02T22:22:35 < BrainDamage> here it only hails in the summer, and when it does iit fucks things up 2016-08-02T22:23:30 < ReadError> Laurenceb did you see my ginger link 2016-08-02T22:23:43 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-02T22:23:51 < ReadError> great 2016-08-02T22:29:34 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T22:36:34 < Rob235_> don't make fun of gingers 2016-08-02T22:37:01 < Rob235_> I'll have to kick your ass 2016-08-02T22:38:07 < kakimir> why whole airport is closed if someone crashes? 2016-08-02T22:39:08 < kakimir> slids of the runway to bank or so 2016-08-02T22:39:24 < kakimir> *off 2016-08-02T22:39:33 < kakimir> how many pilots we have here btw? 2016-08-02T22:39:53 < kakimir> if trainees are in count too 2016-08-02T22:39:58 < Steffanx> Sure this is the right channel mr kakimir? 2016-08-02T22:40:10 < kakimir> this channel has everything 2016-08-02T22:40:18 < Steffanx> Yes, but the context is missing. 2016-08-02T22:48:30 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-02T23:13:26 < LeelooMinai> Maybe someone knows if st-link (taken from a nucleo board) will show the target voltage regardless of swd status? 2016-08-02T23:14:01 < LeelooMinai> I have showing it detection failure and now not sure what's going on, because the voltage is there on the pin. 2016-08-02T23:15:33 < LeelooMinai> This is what I see: http://i.imgur.com/vKp3tjx.png 2016-08-02T23:16:11 < LeelooMinai> Maybe it does not even try to display voltage if it cannot talk to SWD (?) 2016-08-02T23:18:51 < aandrew> was it working before? 2016-08-02T23:19:11 < aandrew> I'm just wondering if there was a pin/trace/whatever cut when you disconnected them that is preventing it 2016-08-02T23:20:15 < LeelooMinai> No, I did not cut anything:) 2016-08-02T23:20:26 < Rickta59> what happens if you feed the voltage from the board back to the voltage detect pin? 2016-08-02T23:20:36 < Rickta59> board as in the stlink board 2016-08-02T23:21:12 < LeelooMinai> I used DMM to measure that voltage on the ST-LINK pin, it's there, ok... 2016-08-02T23:21:33 < Rickta59> sounds like the power jumper is removed 2016-08-02T23:22:10 < Rickta59> but if you use a jumper wire to take 3.3v from someplaces on the stlink part of the board and connect it to the right cn4 pin? 2016-08-02T23:22:33 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, I looked at the jumpers in the nuclep docs, but from what I see it's powered from the USB, and obviously it's seen by the programmer. 2016-08-02T23:23:13 < Rickta59> on all my nucleo boards there is a jumper just about the target chip that provides power to the lower half of the board 2016-08-02T23:23:23 < Rickta59> if that is gone so is the voltage from the reference pin 2016-08-02T23:23:42 < LeelooMinai> There's no other half - I use stlink part from nucleo, but it's standalone - I cut it off. 2016-08-02T23:23:47 < Rickta59> ah 2016-08-02T23:24:06 < Rickta59> can't say i've bothered 2016-08-02T23:24:19 < aandrew> I cut it off. 2016-08-02T23:24:20 < Rickta59> i just usually pull the power jumper and use cn4 to connect to some other target 2016-08-02T23:24:22 < aandrew> so the traces are not intact :-) 2016-08-02T23:24:50 < LeelooMinai> aandrew: A, those, but why would it matter - it was designed to be cut off, no? 2016-08-02T23:25:08 < LeelooMinai> Unless they would shomehow short, let me see. 2016-08-02T23:25:11 < aandrew> yes. but I'm wondering if the vsense pin is maybe somehow mangled 2016-08-02T23:26:52 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, great, I pulled that thing to debug a board, and I now have to debug the programmer... 2016-08-02T23:27:35 < LeelooMinai> I think I have some other Nucleo though I should probably try it. 2016-08-02T23:38:38 < LeelooMinai> Same - so I guess it will not display voltage unless SWD works. 2016-08-02T23:39:12 < Rickta59> which CN? are you using? 2016-08-02T23:39:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T23:40:31 < LeelooMinai> What do you mean? Just 6 pin SWD one. 2016-08-02T23:44:34 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-02T23:44:40 < mra90> frame pointer is a register? 2016-08-02T23:44:45 < mra90> where is it documented? 2016-08-02T23:44:52 < Rickta59> arm reference manual? 2016-08-02T23:45:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-5cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-02T23:45:40 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-5cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T23:45:41 < mra90> well no even single word about it 2016-08-02T23:45:58 < LeelooMinai> You mean stack pointer? 2016-08-02T23:46:28 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-5cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-02T23:46:28 < mra90> no, "str fp, [sp, #-4]!" what's fp? 2016-08-02T23:46:56 < Rickta59> it is mainly used for debugging 2016-08-02T23:47:03 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T23:47:07 < Rickta59> so the debugger can walk up the stack of functions 2016-08-02T23:47:33 < mra90> Rickta59: this isntriction? 2016-08-02T23:47:40 < mra90> what's so special about it? 2016-08-02T23:47:41 < Rickta59> the frame pointer 2016-08-02T23:48:11 < mra90> first of all where should I get the answer for what fp actually is 2016-08-02T23:48:24 < Rickta59> google 2016-08-02T23:49:14 < LeelooMinai> Found this: https://community.arm.com/thread/7092 2016-08-02T23:49:28 < LeelooMinai> Apparently it's r11 - never heard of fp... 2016-08-02T23:50:03 < Rickta59> i tend to turn it off -fno-omit-frame-pointer 2016-08-02T23:50:04 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-02T23:50:14 < Rickta59> makes smaller code 2016-08-02T23:50:24 < Rickta59> gdb and gcc seem happy without it 2016-08-02T23:50:37 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-02T23:50:41 < mra90> heh 2016-08-02T23:50:58 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-02T23:51:08 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-02T23:53:21 < Rickta59> LeelooMinai: here is how I pull power and setup for SWD https://flic.kr/p/JQgmKM 2016-08-02T23:53:39 < Rickta59> mainly because I can't remember which pins are CLK and SWDIO 2016-08-02T23:54:00 < Rickta59> but also so I get the power from the nucleo board, it seems happier programming the board if you pull power from it 2016-08-02T23:54:09 < mra90> does this instruction have any sense - "sub sp, sp, #12"? 2016-08-02T23:54:14 < mra90> sp - sp? 2016-08-02T23:54:32 < Rickta59> it is making space for some variable 2016-08-02T23:54:38 < LeelooMinai> Rickta59: Er, but the 6 pin connector there is not even used (?) 2016-08-02T23:54:45 < Rickta59> yeah 2016-08-02T23:55:10 < Rickta59> but if i'm pulling power off the board then I think it is safe to say it is good 2016-08-02T23:56:08 < mra90> Rickta59L making space, so without this instruction there won't be space in your opinio o.0? 2016-08-02T23:56:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-02T23:57:03 < Rickta59> you probably allocated a variable on the stack in your code .. unsigned foo[4]; would make space for 3 * 4 bytes 2016-08-02T23:57:19 < Rickta59> local variable 2016-08-02T23:58:00 < Rickta59> if you are decompiling (arm-none-eabi-objdump) and have -g flag on when you compile it should show you what caused that 2016-08-02T23:59:39 < mra90> ok thanks --- Day changed Wed Aug 03 2016 2016-08-03T00:02:51 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-03T00:06:54 -!- mra90 [~Martin@5.10.7.148] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-03T00:09:35 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-03T00:35:56 < kakimir> http://www.interestingfacts.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Lenticular-Clouds.jpg 2016-08-03T00:43:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T00:48:05 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-03T00:48:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-03T00:48:55 < Steffanx> tha sky bruh 2016-08-03T00:49:07 < englishman> chapeau chinois 2016-08-03T00:49:08 < LeelooMinai> Weird, j-link detects the mcu 2016-08-03T00:49:40 < LeelooMinai> No idea why st-link cannot 2016-08-03T00:49:54 < kakimir> how to wear aviators without looking like you instagram? 2016-08-03T00:50:09 < englishman> have matching flight jacket and 20000 hours in a 747 2016-08-03T00:51:03 < kakimir> you have recommend flywear englishman ? 2016-08-03T00:51:20 < englishman> yes i like a light t shirt and shorts 2016-08-03T00:51:44 < Steffanx> better weird this too: http://static.webshopapp.com/shops/075568/files/055966814/zwart-leren-piloten-cap-met-bril.jpg 2016-08-03T00:52:51 < kakimir> englishman: same 2016-08-03T00:52:59 < englishman> not really but this is nice to wear http://www.sportys.com/media/catalog/product/1/6/16422_4.jpg 2016-08-03T00:53:25 < Steffanx> lol for microsoft flight simulator? 2016-08-03T00:53:44 < kakimir> I wonder if I could get musics to sailplane because there is no like.. headphone connetors 2016-08-03T00:53:55 < englishman> falcon 4.0 2016-08-03T00:53:57 < kakimir> just speaker 2016-08-03T00:54:49 < Steffanx> phone. 2016-08-03T00:56:17 < kakimir> there is chattings in radio so it mandatory to hear everything in radio to avoid 1) midair crash 2016-08-03T00:56:32 < Laurenceb__> some lulz coming up 2016-08-03T00:56:34 < englishman> pff 2016-08-03T00:57:40 < Laurenceb__> how not to manage datalogging 2016-08-03T00:57:47 < Laurenceb__> http://filebin.ca/2qDvrzx3rcFk 2016-08-03T00:59:07 < Steffanx> they probably got it faster done then some other people in Qt. 2016-08-03T01:00:56 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0addf0.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-03T01:04:19 < jadew> is microsoft flight simulator any good? 2016-08-03T01:04:36 < jadew> I have it, but I don't think I gave it a fair try 2016-08-03T01:04:50 < jadew> I think it was as entertaining as I hoped it would be 2016-08-03T01:04:59 < jadew> ok, now I want to fly something 2016-08-03T01:05:09 < englishman> fsx is cool 2016-08-03T01:05:13 < englishman> tons of expansions and stuff 2016-08-03T01:05:21 < englishman> you can even play as atc 2016-08-03T01:05:33 < englishman> pretty sure the newer ms flight never.... took off 2016-08-03T01:05:36 < englishman> it was too win10 2016-08-03T01:05:57 < jadew> I'm not sure which one I have, let me log into steam 2016-08-03T01:06:09 < jadew> X 2016-08-03T01:06:24 < englishman> Microsoft released a new simulator in February 2012, developed and aimed at drawing new users into flight gaming. While claiming to be simpler to use for inexperienced users, it is incompatible with Flight Simulator, and does not allow the use of existing Flight Simulator add-ons (including aircraft, objects, and photographic scenery). On July 26, 2012, 2016-08-03T01:06:24 < englishman> Microsoft cancelled further development of Flight 2016-08-03T01:06:25 < englishman> lol 2016-08-03T01:07:11 < jadew> fsx looks too real too 2016-08-03T01:07:15 < jadew> I'm looking for a game 2016-08-03T01:07:44 < jadew> something where flying is easy and you get to shoot stuff 2016-08-03T01:08:23 < englishman> crimson skies? 2016-08-03T01:08:23 < englishman> lol 2016-08-03T01:09:19 < jadew> that looks fun 2016-08-03T01:12:10 < kakimir> remember those dos games that had nothing but horizon and some triangles or boxes or something 2016-08-03T01:13:56 < kakimir> before computer graphics they probably used some kind of optomechanical black arts to create illusion of view 2016-08-03T01:16:28 < jadew> I wonder if my old backup floppy disks are still working 2016-08-03T01:18:07 < kakimir> I don't 2016-08-03T01:19:20 < jadew> lol I entered a folder where I kept my backup from my 486 system and windows defender started detecting viruses 2016-08-03T01:19:37 < jadew> Burglar 2016-08-03T01:25:52 < Steffanx> backup from 486.. damn 2016-08-03T01:30:58 < jadew> just installed dosbox, I want to see if I can run some of the games I made as a kid 2016-08-03T01:31:04 < jadew> some were as kakimir said, triangles 2016-08-03T01:31:07 < jadew> and boxes 2016-08-03T01:42:37 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-03T01:51:39 < BrainDamage> monkey island 2, captain comic, supaplex, the lost vikings, i remember clicking random things in monkey island because i couldn't understand a word of english 2016-08-03T01:53:57 < Rickta59> http://flightarcade.com/ 2016-08-03T01:58:33 < jadew> found my old journal 2016-08-03T01:58:39 < jadew> but it's encrypted 2016-08-03T01:59:40 < jadew> also a list of friends lol 2016-08-03T01:59:52 < jadew> I wonder why the hell I had to keep that, it's not like I would forget about them 2016-08-03T02:00:27 < kakimir> Rickta59: no 2016-08-03T02:09:03 < Rickta59> no likey? 2016-08-03T02:14:53 < kakimir> no 2016-08-03T02:30:39 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOyfZex7B3E 2016-08-03T02:30:50 < ReadError> pretty neat "Sega Saturn CD - Cracked after 20 years" 2016-08-03T02:32:07 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cgylilnxijnyxasa] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T02:40:04 < jadew> yey 2016-08-03T02:40:09 < jadew> managed to compile some of my old games 2016-08-03T02:40:25 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/7FvLp.png 2016-08-03T02:40:34 < jadew> kakimir ^ is that what you had in mind? 2016-08-03T02:41:03 < ReadError> that looks racist as fuck 2016-08-03T02:41:15 < jadew> lol 2016-08-03T02:41:30 < jadew> this is the second version: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/WWXmK.png 2016-08-03T02:41:52 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/8l6eM.png 2016-08-03T02:42:12 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/DdKtN.png 2016-08-03T02:42:17 < ReadError> not as racist 2016-08-03T02:42:36 < jadew> this one had leg movement too: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/m318s.png 2016-08-03T02:44:50 < jadew> my version of pacman: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/dMH7r.png 2016-08-03T02:50:27 < Sync> ReadError: that is actually relatively seksi 2016-08-03T02:50:36 < Sync> I love how overengineered that thing is 2016-08-03T02:50:42 < ReadError> yea pretty crazy 2016-08-03T02:50:45 < ReadError> for the time anyways 2016-08-03T02:50:52 < ReadError> then they came out with dreamcast which... 2016-08-03T02:50:55 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-03T02:51:31 < Sync> yeah 2016-08-03T02:51:47 < Sync> idk what sega was thinking 2016-08-03T02:52:15 < Sync> I'm always amazed that they were able to throw asics in those things by the kilo 2016-08-03T02:52:24 < ReadError> still remember that ole Utopia bootdisk 2016-08-03T02:52:47 < ReadError> back before they put it on the disk 2016-08-03T02:54:17 < Sync> but he is lucky 2016-08-03T02:54:27 < Sync> the arch is actually supported in ida 2016-08-03T02:55:20 < Laurenceb__> http://www.cameronleeworldwide.com/products/cuck-hunt-mens-t-shirt 2016-08-03T02:56:30 < ReadError> im 'iggered 2016-08-03T02:56:31 < ReadError> stop Laurenceb__ 2016-08-03T02:56:44 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-03T03:00:41 < jadew> that's a lot of work put into an obsolete console 2016-08-03T03:04:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T03:05:52 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-03T03:06:40 < Rob235> took a little trip to home depot... lets see if this will work :) http://imgur.com/a/LUz3Y 2016-08-03T03:09:20 < jadew> and wrote this one fully in ASM: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/xQqBV.png 2016-08-03T03:09:27 < Rob235> nah, couldn't find a local place, just waiting for my order to come in the mail 2016-08-03T03:10:39 < jadew> yeah, seems to crash at every turn 2016-08-03T03:11:17 < jadew> yeah, I compiled some of the games I wrote when I was a kid and took some screenshots 2016-08-03T03:11:56 < jadew> actually, this one I had to crack, it was already compiled but I included protection against Game Wizard 2016-08-03T03:12:05 < jadew> and for some reason it was detecting DOSBOX as GW 2016-08-03T03:12:57 < jadew> it was a tool that allowed you to scan the memory for values that changed and then it was able to lock them, giving you infinite life in games :D 2016-08-03T03:13:15 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-03T03:13:41 < jadew> it was a resident program 2016-08-03T03:14:16 < jadew> which was awesome back then :) 2016-08-03T03:14:41 < LeelooMinai> TSRs - the beginning of multitasking on PCs 2016-08-03T03:14:51 < jadew> did you have norton guide? 2016-08-03T03:15:05 < jadew> that thing was amazing 2016-08-03T03:15:38 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-03T03:15:38 < jadew> LeelooMinai, yeah 2016-08-03T03:16:10 < jadew> you dindn't use NG? 2016-08-03T03:16:25 < jadew> it was the most awesome thing 2016-08-03T03:16:40 < jadew> another resident program, but it was a collection of help files and documentation 2016-08-03T03:17:01 < jadew> so you could write code in some IDE and bring that up on top of it 2016-08-03T03:17:14 < jadew> and look up x86 instructions and crap like that 2016-08-03T03:17:16 < jadew> it was great 2016-08-03T03:17:19 < jadew> and it covered everything 2016-08-03T03:17:46 < jadew> memory locations, ports, instructions and their cost + it had a lot of other libraries 2016-08-03T03:21:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-03T03:34:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-03T03:43:47 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/dUavmX.jpg 2016-08-03T03:43:50 < ReadError> hahahahha 2016-08-03T03:44:17 < ReadError> vox did some 1mil subs ep and each person is going though talking about their fav youtube channel 2016-08-03T03:44:35 < ReadError> alantutorial had my first ARM tutorial thanks to mr Sauce 2016-08-03T03:44:51 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLNaaFw51O0 2016-08-03T04:02:48 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-03T04:02:57 < ReadError> its how I learned everything I know about ARM/STM32 2016-08-03T04:03:24 < ReadError> I live the dong lifestyle 2016-08-03T04:03:26 < ReadError> no need 2016-08-03T04:29:46 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-03T04:30:15 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-03T04:47:06 -!- chuckmcm [~quassel@50.247.73.12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-03T04:47:29 -!- cmcmanis [~quassel@50.247.73.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T04:56:33 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/txLmVpdWtNc?t=247 2016-08-03T04:56:41 < ReadError> pretty awesome vid 2016-08-03T04:56:52 < ReadError> of the process 2016-08-03T05:13:50 < PeterM> all these videos need more eggs readerror 2016-08-03T05:15:20 < ReadError> () () () 2016-08-03T05:35:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.221.115] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T05:38:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T05:46:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T06:05:37 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T06:16:22 -!- rue_house [~rue@d205-250-204-74.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T06:16:32 < rue_house> oo lots of people, but any life? 2016-08-03T06:16:42 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/9ugEWDt.gifv 2016-08-03T06:17:34 < rue_house> <- newb to stm32... I got a little dev board and an stlink2, on debian linux, using openocd, how can I get a 'helo' from the board? 2016-08-03T06:17:56 < rue_house> http://openocd.org/doc/html/Flash-Commands.html (seems to be more I need to know) 2016-08-03T06:18:32 < rue_house> stm32f103 2016-08-03T06:19:09 < rue_house> I also have a main.bin I want to load onto it... 2016-08-03T06:19:23 < Rickta59> https://github.com/texane/stlink/blob/master/doc/tutorial.md 2016-08-03T06:19:25 < rue_house> connection check would be a nice start 2016-08-03T06:19:43 < rue_house> opposed to openocd? 2016-08-03T06:20:20 < Rickta59> openocd is the swiss army knife of debuggers 2016-08-03T06:20:27 < Rickta59> that one is a rock 2016-08-03T06:20:31 < rue_house> oh, I dont want a debugger... 2016-08-03T06:20:34 < rue_house> k 2016-08-03T06:20:47 < Rickta59> you smash things with it but it isn't hard to figure out 2016-08-03T06:21:13 < Rickta59> and it figures out what kind of stlink you have for you 2016-08-03T06:21:54 < rue_house> its all new to me 2016-08-03T06:22:16 < rue_house> I'm hunting out avr alternatives, as I'm sure microchip is gonna kill avrs 2016-08-03T06:22:42 < upgrdman> lol http://mashable.com/2016/08/02/dutch-man-waits-girlfriend-10-days-chinese-airport/#DZzZ1m.NKgq1 2016-08-03T06:23:04 < rue_house> long flight 2016-08-03T06:26:09 < Rob235> can someone recommend a cheap fpv system? 200mw, pretty good quality video to stream to a rx that can display and record on a pc/tablet 2016-08-03T06:26:11 < upgrdman> :) 2016-08-03T06:29:17 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/LsrbNNd 2016-08-03T06:34:10 < upgrdman> round r2com http://i.imgur.com/zkvLFLK.jpg 2016-08-03T06:34:17 < upgrdman> found* 2016-08-03T06:35:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T06:46:05 -!- cmcmanis is now known as chuckmcm 2016-08-03T07:04:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T07:07:14 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Quit: BRB Reboot time] 2016-08-03T07:08:08 < upgrdman> typical american https://i.imgur.com/aS8eotU.gifv 2016-08-03T07:10:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-03T07:19:49 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cgylilnxijnyxasa] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-03T07:22:38 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T07:35:06 < Rob235> any thoughts? http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__56990__Boscam_TR1_FPV_All_In_One_Camera_and_5_8_GHz_Transmitter_with_Video_recorder.html 2016-08-03T07:42:43 < englishman> Rob235: http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=11_30_33&products_id=5415 2016-08-03T07:42:45 < englishman> will get you goin 2016-08-03T07:43:45 < englishman> warning: contains PIC 2016-08-03T07:44:02 < Rob235> yea but id like hd recording too which the other one has, its not just for fpv flying, its more for like a mix of realtime transmission and quality recording 2016-08-03T07:44:44 < englishman> pretty much most hd shits are trash 2016-08-03T07:45:12 < englishman> these are good http://www.readymaderc.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=505_785_788&products_id=4962 2016-08-03T07:45:16 < englishman> just add video tx 2016-08-03T07:45:46 < englishman> hobbykrap has them too 2016-08-03T07:46:17 < Rob235> what kind of tx can you connect that to? 2016-08-03T07:46:36 < englishman> any, it has regular cvbs out 2016-08-03T07:50:17 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-03T07:51:39 < Rob235> damn but thats $99 and doesn't have a tx or a rx :( 2016-08-03T07:51:59 < englishman> but itl save you $80 by not throwing that hobbyking piece of shit in the garbage 2016-08-03T07:52:50 < Rob235> boscam is hobbyking? 2016-08-03T07:57:29 < Rob235> not in the eyes of anyone on irc 2016-08-03T07:57:37 < Rob235> everything is complete garbage 2016-08-03T08:01:42 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-03T08:05:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T08:05:54 < englishman> i linked two things 2016-08-03T08:05:58 < englishman> plz ignore them 2016-08-03T08:06:03 < englishman> sup crt 2016-08-03T08:06:23 < Rob235> im watching a vid on the runcam 2 and the quality is obviously better than what I linked 2016-08-03T08:06:31 < Rob235> im impressed 2016-08-03T08:09:44 < englishman> any youtube audiophool repair videos 2016-08-03T08:25:40 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d9d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T08:27:38 < Rob235> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__65997__Skyzone_Plug_Play_FPV_200_Set_With_TS5823_TX_RC832_RX_Sony_CCD_and_Circular_Polarized_Antennas.html 2016-08-03T08:27:45 < Rob235> how about something like that for just the tx/rx 2016-08-03T08:27:49 < englishman> lol buttcoin hacking is still a thing 2016-08-03T08:27:55 < englishman> $65m stolen from some shitty website 2016-08-03T08:28:17 < Rob235> as long as drugs are a thing, so will bitcoin :) 2016-08-03T08:28:18 < englishman> nope 2016-08-03T08:28:24 < englishman> fuck that noise 2016-08-03T08:28:29 < englishman> i tried to buy drugs with buttcoin 2016-08-03T08:28:37 < englishman> i needed to either give my real name and id 2016-08-03T08:28:42 < englishman> or buy buttcoin in a back alley 2016-08-03T08:28:53 < englishman> i cut out the fucking middleman and bought drugs in that same back alley 2016-08-03T08:29:06 < englishman> using real money 2016-08-03T08:29:13 < Rob235> englishman: you gotta buy it normally, transfer it to a local wallet, then vpn to another country, transfer to a new wallet, then use a bitcoin blender to transfer it to the marketplace... 2016-08-03T08:29:33 < englishman> sounds far more difficult than actually buying drugs 2016-08-03T08:30:07 < englishman> especially if all your money is taken by some ukranian kid 2016-08-03T08:30:26 < Rob235> escrow... 2016-08-03T08:31:50 < englishman> pretty sure the dudes stealing money from bitfinex didnt use escrow 2016-08-03T08:32:07 < Rob235> oh you mean the hack 2016-08-03T08:32:18 < Rob235> i thought you meant getting ripped off on a general purchase 2016-08-03T08:32:24 < englishman> also, pretty sure id like as few people as possible to know about my drug transactions 2016-08-03T08:36:06 < Rob235> crt what is your poison? smack? 2016-08-03T08:44:42 < Rob235> how about this combo? http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__105379__FR632_Diversity_5_8GHz_40Ch_Auto_Scan_LCD_A_V_FPV_Receiver.html 2016-08-03T08:44:42 < Rob235> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idproduct=66731 2016-08-03T08:46:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-03T08:46:58 < rue_house> ok st-flash finds the chip ok, but after < INFO src/flash_loader.c: Successfully loaded flash loader in sram > says < ERROR src/flash_loader.c: flash loader run error ERROR src/common.c: stlink_flash_loader_run(0x8000000) failed! == -1 > any common tings I can look for? 2016-08-03T08:49:49 < PaulFertser> rue_house: just use openocd 2016-08-03T08:50:12 < rue_house> okI was just told to use st-flash, how do I use openocd? 2016-08-03T08:50:24 < rue_house> I have a stlink-v2 and main.bin 2016-08-03T08:50:49 < PaulFertser> rue_house: and no, you do have a need for debugger, you just do not realise it yet :) 2016-08-03T08:51:11 < rue_house> no I'm an old good coder, I just need 1 io pin to debug anything 2016-08-03T08:51:24 < PaulFertser> rue_house: trivial: openocd -f interface/stlink-v2.cfg -f target/stm32f1x.cfg -c "program main.bin verify reset exit 0x08000000" 2016-08-03T08:51:34 < rue_house> ok 2016-08-03T08:52:17 < PaulFertser> rue_house: that's for stlink-v2, if you have stlink-v2-1, then use another config. And if you have an f2 instead of an f1, change the command line appropriately. 2016-08-03T08:52:39 < rue_house> gotcha 2016-08-03T08:53:35 < PaulFertser> rue_house: if something doesn't work, use same command line but add -d3 at the end and share the log. 2016-08-03T08:54:46 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T08:56:56 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-03T08:57:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.221.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-03T09:03:19 < PaulFertser> Using on-chip debugging saves plenty of time normally. 2016-08-03T09:08:52 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-03T09:10:33 < rue_house> Error: session's transport is not selected. 2016-08-03T09:10:34 < rue_house> hmmm 2016-08-03T09:12:40 < rue_house> i think i see, ocd isnt a flash util, its anything you tell it to be 2016-08-03T09:16:27 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-03T09:20:34 -!- tecdroid 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-!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T13:44:00 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-03T13:44:00 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T13:44:05 < jadew> looks like tektronix just released a new low end scope 2016-08-03T13:44:24 < ReadError> at the riglol market? 2016-08-03T13:44:32 < jadew> I don't think it has a price tag yet 2016-08-03T13:44:45 < jadew> but they have 70 and 100 MHz models 2016-08-03T13:45:05 < jadew> 20 Mega samples record length 2016-08-03T13:45:11 < jadew> and it comes in 2 or 4 channels 2016-08-03T13:45:30 < ReadError> unless it has good software, 4 channels and ~$600 it will flop 2016-08-03T13:45:33 < jadew> you have to call them for a quote 2016-08-03T13:45:35 < ReadError> or less 2016-08-03T13:45:47 < jadew> the software looks nice 2016-08-03T13:46:00 < ReadError> rigols interface is pretty nice 2016-08-03T13:46:06 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-03T13:46:11 < jadew> http://info.tek.com/rs/584-WPH-840/images/TBS2000%203GW-60235-0_EN.PDF 2016-08-03T13:46:35 < jadew> looks decent 2016-08-03T13:46:49 < jadew> individual controls for each channel 2016-08-03T13:47:29 < ReadError> kawaii 2016-08-03T13:47:30 < jadew> 15 horizontal divisions hehe 2016-08-03T13:47:43 < ReadError> like that fat ass display 2016-08-03T13:49:18 < jadew> Input sesitivity range: 2 mV/Div to 5 V/Div 2016-08-03T13:49:28 < jadew> that seems worse than the rigol 2016-08-03T13:49:30 < jadew> let me check 2016-08-03T13:50:07 < Steffanx> No bash ReadError? I have it. 2016-08-03T13:50:31 < Steffanx> yet i had to enable it, install it after enabling developer mode, but its there 2016-08-03T13:50:38 < ReadError> from Aug 2nd update? 2016-08-03T13:50:52 < Steffanx> yes 2016-08-03T13:51:01 < Steffanx> 1607 2016-08-03T13:51:12 < Steffanx> version 1607 that is 2016-08-03T13:51:38 < ReadError> well shucks 2016-08-03T13:52:12 < jadew> yep, the rigol does better 2016-08-03T13:52:22 < jadew> 1 mV/div to 10 V/div 2016-08-03T14:01:23 < ReadError> Thailand arresting people for talking bad about its leader 2016-08-03T14:01:25 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/83e0b50.jpg 2016-08-03T14:01:36 < ReadError> didnt arrest the guy that painted that though 2016-08-03T14:14:07 < Sync> jadew: the question is the noiseperformance there 2016-08-03T14:15:08 < jadew> Sync, yeah, I guess we'll find out soon enough 2016-08-03T14:15:21 < jadew> their previous low end scopes sucked 2016-08-03T14:15:54 < Sync> well they were just rigols with different software basically 2016-08-03T14:16:27 < jadew> nah, they were actual tek scopes, but with old technology 2016-08-03T14:16:31 < jadew> 10k sample memory 2016-08-03T14:17:05 < Sync> oh yeah tek just still sold their 10 year old shit 2016-08-03T14:17:12 < Sync> that sucked back then 2016-08-03T14:17:24 < jadew> lol 2016-08-03T14:18:31 < Sync> lecroy had some china stuff 2016-08-03T14:18:50 < jadew> yeah, they rebranded siglents 2016-08-03T14:29:45 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/8VK1wG.jpg 2016-08-03T14:52:38 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T15:00:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-03T15:13:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-03T15:13:21 < Steffanx> So it works for you ReadError? 2016-08-03T15:13:41 < ReadError> nope no update avail 2016-08-03T15:14:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T15:14:53 < Steffanx> this was enterprise btw. 2016-08-03T15:15:13 < Steffanx> oh you dont even get the 1607 update 2016-08-03T15:15:18 < ReadError> i got enterprise 2016-08-03T15:16:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T15:18:55 < PeterM> sure you do, jsut not yet 2016-08-03T15:28:02 < Steffanx> europe gets the update before yankeeland, that's new. 2016-08-03T15:28:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T15:30:28 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-cijhoclrthaephub] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-03T15:30:28 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T15:32:12 < ReadError> axed someone with MSDN to grab 2016-08-03T15:34:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-03T15:35:09 < Lux> do any of you guys have an example for a commercial invoice for customs ? 2016-08-03T15:41:37 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-03T15:45:35 < jpa-> they vary a lot in looks, so basically anything that looks like receipt should do 2016-08-03T15:46:12 < jpa-> https://d21txek0ttpfbd.cloudfront.net/w/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Commercial-Invoice-Annotated-2012.png 2016-08-03T15:46:18 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-03T15:46:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-03T16:01:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-03T16:11:29 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T16:16:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T16:42:19 < Steffanx> Why does it take like 3-5 business days to get a paypal/ebay refund back :S 2016-08-03T16:43:06 < ReadError> probably some kind of scams 2016-08-03T16:43:25 < ReadError> moving money around too quickly like that maybe 2016-08-03T16:43:31 < ReadError> people cashing out creditcards 2016-08-03T16:44:35 < Steffanx> Grow up crt. 2016-08-03T16:44:37 < ReadError> easy now 2016-08-03T16:44:39 < ReadError> i didnt go there 2016-08-03T16:44:47 < Tectu> surgency now? 2016-08-03T16:44:57 < Steffanx> Who plays insurgency here/ 2016-08-03T16:45:06 < Tectu> here o/ 2016-08-03T16:45:13 < Tectu> tried to convince ReadError, he seemed interested 2016-08-03T16:45:13 < Steffanx> me neither 2016-08-03T16:45:47 < Steffanx> semi-immitating mr D is boring. 2016-08-03T16:45:56 < Steffanx> -m 2016-08-03T16:46:19 < ReadError> yea you need to form your own style 2016-08-03T16:46:30 < ReadError> cant rip off dongs 1:1 2016-08-03T16:54:32 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T16:58:07 < Rob235_> do you need a video capture card to connect a fpv cam receiver to your computer? 2016-08-03T16:58:21 < ReadError> or a DVR 2016-08-03T16:58:30 < upgrdman> hmmm the new win10 start menu is nicer. it shows all apps by default now 2016-08-03T16:58:31 < ReadError> ezcap might work 2016-08-03T16:59:38 < Rob235_> maybe I should make something from an stm32 through usb or bluetooth if it's fast enough for sd video 2016-08-03T16:59:55 < Rob235_> I just woke up so my brain isn't functioning yet 2016-08-03T17:01:33 < Rob235_> i'm still waiting on clockwise props 2016-08-03T17:02:40 < Rob235_> heh I did :) I turned the throttle up to like 30-40% and as expected it stayed on the ground 2016-08-03T17:09:17 < Steffanx> upgrdman and still i dislike the use padding per app 2016-08-03T17:09:54 < ReadError> installing from iso 2016-08-03T17:10:00 < ReadError> since MS doesnt like me 2016-08-03T17:11:30 < Steffanx> i still prefer the old app menu over this new windows 8/10 stuff. so much scrolling. 2016-08-03T17:11:44 < Steffanx> especially annoying when you just installed an app and dont exactly know what you're looking for 2016-08-03T17:11:51 < ReadError> how does upgrdman, behind the great chinese firewall, get this update before me 2016-08-03T17:12:02 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-03T17:12:51 < Steffanx> yes 2016-08-03T17:13:07 < Steffanx> it now opens in the app listing thing 2016-08-03T17:17:03 < ReadError> i hate that creepy "hi, we've updated your PC..." shit 2016-08-03T17:17:10 < Rob235_> ok so a rx receives sd video and outputs on a 3.5mm jack that 'converts' to composite. is there anyway to plug the 3.5mm jack into my laptop in the microphone port and read the analog video signal? :P 2016-08-03T17:20:02 < Rob235_> oh thats 2.5mm isnt it 2016-08-03T17:20:53 < Rob235_> heh, I'm a dreamer 2016-08-03T17:20:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.6.160] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-03T17:26:10 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T17:27:26 < Rob235_> https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-SVID2USB23-S-Video-Composite-Capture/dp/B00C8JWVIK 2016-08-03T17:27:29 < Rob235_> something like that 2016-08-03T17:28:53 < Rob235_> and with a usb otg cable maybe connect it to an android tablet? 2016-08-03T17:29:04 < Rob235_> although laptop is fine 2016-08-03T17:35:23 < upgrdman> ReadError, 2 things: im back in the 1st world (as of last night), and msft coop's with the cn gov, so windows update is plenty fast in cn. i've hit 100Mbit/s to microsoft.com and atmel.com when in cn 2016-08-03T17:40:41 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T17:40:41 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-03T17:40:41 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T17:42:01 * Laurenceb is raging at SP1ML modules 2016-08-03T17:42:16 < Laurenceb> command responses are so slowww 2016-08-03T17:43:25 < Laurenceb> raging at all the things 2016-08-03T17:44:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-03T17:45:09 < Laurenceb> https://sli.mg/sJKRyw 2016-08-03T17:45:25 < Laurenceb> READY\n\r doesnt appear in datashit 2016-08-03T17:45:48 < Laurenceb> looks like if you send a command too soon after entering cmd mode, it replies ready and ignores 2016-08-03T17:46:12 < Laurenceb> datashit has nothing to say 2016-08-03T17:47:03 < Steffanx> \n\r even. 2016-08-03T17:47:29 < Laurenceb> normally there is no READY from the module, so you dont know when its ready 2016-08-03T17:47:50 < Laurenceb> also it will reply with ready multiple times lol 2016-08-03T17:49:30 < Steffanx> no other flow control? 2016-08-03T17:54:14 < Steffanx> do you even listen to the response Laurenceb? 2016-08-03T17:54:26 < Steffanx> you send one command and then the ready comes but you are already sending the next one. 2016-08-03T17:54:57 < Rob235_> ahh capture devices have a 1 second delay? 2016-08-03T17:55:13 < Rob235_> maybe I should just get a rx lcd 2016-08-03T17:56:17 < Laurenceb> ready actually means unready 2016-08-03T17:57:25 < Steffanx> lol. 2016-08-03T17:57:45 < Steffanx> it that thing designed in india, Laurenceb? 2016-08-03T17:57:52 < Steffanx> like that cc3000 wifi crap from ti 2016-08-03T17:58:02 < Laurenceb> probably 2016-08-03T17:58:34 < Steffanx> maybe. 2016-08-03T18:04:50 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0aNILW6ILk 2016-08-03T18:07:38 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/9x1TCPu.jpg 2016-08-03T18:08:12 < Laurenceb> spirit of Australia 2016-08-03T18:10:03 < Laurenceb> looks like it 2016-08-03T18:10:10 < Laurenceb> http://imgur.com/a/LucEz 2016-08-03T18:11:13 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/x3eLwmh.jpg 2016-08-03T18:11:21 < Laurenceb> some epic honeycomb 2016-08-03T18:12:06 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-03T18:12:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-03T18:13:10 < Tectu> thank you engineers 2016-08-03T18:13:13 < Tectu> and Mr. pilot 2016-08-03T18:15:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T18:27:14 < jpa-> Tectu: Steffanx wanted to tell you that he doesn't like your dong 2016-08-03T18:27:42 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-03T18:27:44 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-03T18:30:02 < Lux> jpa-: thanks 2016-08-03T18:36:52 < Rob235_> hmmm 2016-08-03T18:36:52 < Rob235_> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__53706__Quanum_DIY_FPV_Goggle_Set_with_Monitor_KIT_.html 2016-08-03T18:37:03 < Rob235_> looks ridiculous but got good reviews and the price is great 2016-08-03T18:39:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.222] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T18:41:02 < Tectu> probably a zano stock sell-out 2016-08-03T18:42:02 < karlp> man, usb type c is awesome, but it's got so little in common with usb2 2016-08-03T18:42:16 < karlp> like usb3 I guess, totally new thing, just happened to fit int he same sockets 2016-08-03T18:53:04 < Rob235_> man I dont know what I want to do... I want 2 cameras now hah 2016-08-03T18:53:07 < Rob235_> fpv and gimbal 2016-08-03T18:55:30 < Rob235_> ... 2016-08-03T18:59:34 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/brodeaniv?lang=en-gb 2016-08-03T18:59:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T19:00:01 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/brodeanIV/status/751273868174594048?lang=en-gb 2016-08-03T19:00:04 < Laurenceb> lulling 2016-08-03T19:05:11 < Laurenceb> crt approves of MEAT 2016-08-03T19:07:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-03T19:10:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T19:13:29 < zyp> karlp, little in common how? 2016-08-03T19:16:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-03T19:17:39 < Laurenceb> nice 2016-08-03T19:17:54 < Laurenceb> muh sp1ml link doesnt have enough capacity 2016-08-03T19:17:59 < Laurenceb> truly epin fail 2016-08-03T19:20:44 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-08-03T19:21:13 < Laurenceb> works if I make it one directional lol 2016-08-03T19:23:04 < Laurenceb> time to get out airspy and look at actual rf 2016-08-03T19:23:40 * Laurenceb suspects more shitty st brogramming 2016-08-03T19:24:25 < Laurenceb> nope, if I turn off one end I can send packets in the other direction 2016-08-03T19:25:05 < Laurenceb> oh unless I screwed up the carrier sense/avoid 2016-08-03T19:25:16 < Laurenceb> that might also explain it 2016-08-03T19:26:08 < Laurenceb> cya 2016-08-03T19:36:07 < Laurenceb> aha 2016-08-03T19:36:23 < Steffanx> jpa-, i told him myself. 2016-08-03T19:36:26 < Laurenceb> I need to compress my packets into "STack" packets 2016-08-03T19:39:09 < Rob235_> blah, I was waiting on 3 packages, only one I had tracking for and says out for delivery... the mail is usually here by now so I went downstairs to check and I got the two packages and not the one that says out for delivery.... 2016-08-03T19:39:37 < Steffanx> no signaturing? 2016-08-03T19:39:58 < Rob235_> shouldnt be, but it should say delivery attempted if that was the case 2016-08-03T19:40:18 < Rob235_> maybe its lost in his truck 2016-08-03T19:56:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T20:05:13 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-03T20:15:38 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-03T20:16:07 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ielqzquhggqqznhm] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T20:16:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T20:29:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T20:30:57 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-03T20:35:15 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T20:40:15 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-03T20:50:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T20:52:29 < Rob235_> says delivered now, he must have come back 2016-08-03T20:52:55 < ReadError> props? 2016-08-03T20:55:28 < Steffanx> lol, get to your front door instead of checking the track and trace data Rob235_ :P 2016-08-03T20:56:28 < Rob235_> dna200 replacement 2016-08-03T20:56:41 < Rob235_> it came 2016-08-03T20:57:15 < Rob235_> why would I continuously go downstairs to check for mail if it kept saying not delivered? 2016-08-03T20:58:12 < Rob235_> and the mail had already come 2016-08-03T21:03:06 < Rob235_> new one looks used which is bullshit but at least it works 2016-08-03T21:04:10 < Rob235_> has like thermal paste shit on it 2016-08-03T21:07:45 < Steffanx> dna200 = ? 2016-08-03T21:08:41 < ReadError> Steffanx vapist stuff 2016-08-03T21:08:53 < ReadError> but has some kewl stuff 2016-08-03T21:15:34 < Steffanx> ok. 2016-08-03T21:26:33 < mitrax> *DNA*200? don't you mean rapist stuff? 2016-08-03T21:30:33 < Steffanx> vaping is like a bad trigger here :P 2016-08-03T21:30:42 < Rob235_> yes it is 2016-08-03T21:30:53 < Rob235_> thats why I'm keeping quiet now :) 2016-08-03T21:30:53 < Laurenceb> triggered 2016-08-03T21:37:28 < Tectu> where is r2com these days? how did his qt stuff go? 2016-08-03T21:38:00 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T21:51:28 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-03T22:08:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-03T22:09:44 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d9d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T22:31:06 -!- ehsanv1 [~pero@46.224.51.217] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-03T22:33:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-03T22:33:48 -!- ehsanv [~pero@46.225.157.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-03T22:50:09 -!- ifjGery [~neutrox@unaffiliated/ifjgery] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-03T23:14:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-245-93-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-03T23:16:13 < upgrdman> whats everyones favorite movie player for windows? vlc is pissing me off :/ 2016-08-03T23:17:59 < Rob235_> I still use vlc for random videos and kodi for movies/tv 2016-08-03T23:20:28 < Steffanx> mpc upgrdman 2016-08-03T23:22:08 < Steffanx> or web plex, as my server streams the movies. 2016-08-03T23:22:09 < BrainDamage> mpc on windows, mpv on loonix 2016-08-03T23:22:29 < Steffanx> mpv is windows too right? 2016-08-03T23:22:30 < Steffanx> and os x 2016-08-03T23:22:53 < BrainDamage> yes, but i almost never use the command line in windows 2016-08-03T23:22:53 < upgrdman> mpc == mpc-hc ? 2016-08-03T23:23:47 < BrainDamage> i'd use mpv on assdroid if there was a port 2016-08-03T23:23:58 < BrainDamage> vlc on android pisses me off 2016-08-03T23:24:02 < Steffanx> BrainDamage doesnt mean this one https://mpv.io/ ? 2016-08-03T23:24:21 < BrainDamage> yes, that's mpv 2016-08-03T23:24:36 < BrainDamage> the interface is pretty minimal tought 2016-08-03T23:24:46 < BrainDamage> without command line access, you cannot use most of the options 2016-08-03T23:24:48 < Steffanx> but then i dont understand the "but i almost never use the command line in windows" 2016-08-03T23:24:53 < Steffanx> oh, i dont use most of them :P 2016-08-03T23:25:55 < BrainDamage> the integration with youtube-dl is awesome tought 2016-08-03T23:26:00 < BrainDamage> mpv url works for most shit 2016-08-03T23:26:44 < BrainDamage> it's especially nice for you-tub-girl links 2016-08-03T23:29:54 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-03T23:45:38 -!- dan is now known as danielinux --- Day changed Thu Aug 04 2016 2016-08-04T00:21:49 -!- fishhead [~flyback@c-73-154-9-168.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T00:22:08 < kakimir> sup sexuals 2016-08-04T00:25:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T00:43:52 < Rob235_> alright so I think I've decided on the FR632 Diversity 5.8GHz 40ch vRx, Aomway 5.8GHz 40ch 25mW/200mW switchable vTx, circular polarized antennas, RunCam v2 FPV Camera, and Quanum DIY FPV v2 Goggles.... 2016-08-04T01:00:05 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T01:11:52 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T01:16:00 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T01:21:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T01:40:25 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T01:44:27 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdRtWVssdNA 2016-08-04T01:46:38 < Laurenceb__> annoying video 2016-08-04T01:49:26 < Steffanx> lol. 2016-08-04T01:50:32 < kakimir> I think I have some involvement of creation of that thing 2016-08-04T01:51:18 < kakimir> may have 2016-08-04T01:51:52 < kakimir> I used to troll in finnish aviation forum with crazy ideas everyday 2016-08-04T01:52:35 < kakimir> with power of 9000 assburger teenagers 2016-08-04T01:53:31 < Rob235_> hmmm $270 for everything I need... 2016-08-04T01:53:35 < Rob235_> more than I was hoping 2016-08-04T01:53:51 < Rob235_> really not bad though 2016-08-04T01:58:26 < Rob235_> mornin 2016-08-04T01:58:36 < Rob235_> well evening here 2016-08-04T01:58:55 < Rob235_> just filled up my hobbyking cart with $270 which includes everything id need... 2016-08-04T01:59:05 < Rob235_> trying to decide if I should complete the order 2016-08-04T01:59:35 < Rob235_> I am but it would be from international warehouse 2016-08-04T02:00:21 < Rob235_> yea I got pretty much everything from there 2016-08-04T02:00:30 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d9d.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-04T02:00:38 < Rob235_> convenient having everything in one place 2016-08-04T02:02:42 < Steffanx> do it today. 2016-08-04T02:03:53 < Steffanx> Tha sky bro. 2016-08-04T02:04:16 < Steffanx> There? 2016-08-04T02:05:22 < Steffanx> no. 2016-08-04T02:05:44 < Rob235_> oh shit, one more item to add, a shitty camera to add to the outside of the goggles so I can switch and see what's in front of me 2016-08-04T02:06:27 < Steffanx> /msg dongs [insert message here] 2016-08-04T02:08:15 < Steffanx> You stopped keiling :P 2016-08-04T02:08:57 < Steffanx> Aren't you self employed? 2016-08-04T02:09:22 < Steffanx> That's sad. 2016-08-04T02:09:40 < Steffanx> Better hire some tft. 2016-08-04T02:10:02 < Steffanx> lcd. 2016-08-04T02:12:34 -!- FarrellF [~FarrellF@97-94-169-225.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T02:12:52 -!- FarrellF [~FarrellF@97-94-169-225.static.mtpk.ca.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-04T02:13:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T02:15:53 < Steffanx> Blame abbott. 2016-08-04T02:19:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-04T02:21:52 < mitrax> KDK1 calling KDK12 can you read me? 2016-08-04T02:23:22 < Steffanx> I don't do horror, not even 37 yo horror. 2016-08-04T02:23:31 < Steffanx> -1 2016-08-04T02:24:38 < mitrax> pffft 2016-08-04T02:29:13 < mitrax> crt: psst it's "what's wrong with uncle bob" 2016-08-04T02:29:32 < mitrax> can't do my line otherwise 2016-08-04T02:30:13 < mitrax> good 2016-08-04T02:33:42 < mitrax> 1:30am i should go to bed :/ 2016-08-04T02:35:17 * mitrax stomps, vomits and farts 2016-08-04T02:35:22 < mitrax> g'night :) 2016-08-04T02:36:32 < mitrax> fuck i forgot 2016-08-04T02:36:46 < Steffanx> Now you have to do it all over? 2016-08-04T02:36:54 < mitrax> yeah :/ 2016-08-04T02:37:09 < Laurenceb__> hello trolls 2016-08-04T02:37:21 < Steffanx> "Hello sexuals". 2016-08-04T02:37:22 < mitrax> hi sir 2016-08-04T02:39:10 < Laurenceb__> you can call me Dr I guess 2016-08-04T02:39:35 < Steffanx> Dr. Trollenceb? 2016-08-04T02:40:07 < Steffanx> lol, you watch that dutchguy crt? 2016-08-04T02:40:11 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-08-04T02:40:42 < Steffanx> The incredible Dr. Pol.. 2016-08-04T02:41:00 < Steffanx> So how you know Dr. Pol? 2016-08-04T02:41:21 < Laurenceb__> crt: graduated last year 2016-08-04T02:41:45 < Steffanx> Is your thesis less private yet? 2016-08-04T02:41:57 < Laurenceb__> dunno, its vanished 2016-08-04T02:42:12 < Laurenceb__> time to shout at uni archving guys 2016-08-04T02:43:31 < Laurenceb__> lul search function gives me "Nutrition and Lactation in the Dairy Cow" 2016-08-04T02:43:33 < Laurenceb__> so much fail 2016-08-04T02:44:26 < Laurenceb__> maybe I will filebin it one day 2016-08-04T02:44:59 < Laurenceb__> kek 2016-08-04T02:45:17 < Laurenceb__> damn someone with my name, thought I was unique 2016-08-04T02:45:32 < Laurenceb__> "The voluntary intake of roughage by steers" 2016-08-04T02:45:44 < Laurenceb__> also not my thesis 2016-08-04T02:46:17 < Laurenceb__> some kekworthy PhD thesis titles 2016-08-04T02:47:37 < Laurenceb__> http://research.gold.ac.uk/11135/ 2016-08-04T02:50:20 < Steffanx> dont 2016-08-04T02:56:06 < Rob235_> hobbyking order placed :) 2016-08-04T03:01:23 < Laurenceb__> oh what a surprise, author is an auzzie 2016-08-04T03:01:24 < Laurenceb__> http://sydney.edu.au/arts/staff/profiles/anna.hickey-moody.php 2016-08-04T03:02:01 < upgrdman> is $130 for 32GB of DDR4 a good price? 2016-08-04T03:02:06 < Rob235_> propellers will be here saturday 2016-08-04T03:02:11 < upgrdman> 2 sticks of 16GB each 2016-08-04T03:03:04 < Rob235_> I only look up prices when buying a new computer so no idea 2016-08-04T03:03:21 < Rob235_> sounds cheap 2016-08-04T03:03:24 < Rob235_> but no idea 2016-08-04T03:03:44 < Steffanx> Considering stuff in the us is cheaper then here. i guess its a good price upgrdman 2016-08-04T03:04:03 < Steffanx> maybe even a bit low. :P 2016-08-04T03:04:18 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-04T03:05:14 < Steffanx> What brand and stuff? 2016-08-04T03:06:12 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T03:06:47 < upgrdman> https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-2x16GB-PC4-19200-Systems/dp/B01CYILUB8/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1470269200&sr=1-6&keywords=32gb+ddr4 2016-08-04T03:07:49 < upgrdman> i bought the case i wanted, but then amazon didnt have the mobo i wanted. theres some random seller with the mobo i want, but i'll wait until i get can one from amazon. prolly a couple more days 2016-08-04T03:10:25 < Steffanx> Here you pay at least 140 euro for the same memory. 2016-08-04T03:10:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-04T03:10:53 < upgrdman> is that because of VAT ? 2016-08-04T03:11:02 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T03:12:54 < Steffanx> probably because of europe. 2016-08-04T03:13:02 < Steffanx> anyway, 2.12AM 2016-08-04T03:15:28 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nwuwbzwjdhuzogre] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T03:15:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T03:16:15 < Laurenceb__> http://qix.sagepub.com/content/14/1/160.short 2016-08-04T03:39:02 < inca> anyone done any custom USB Host HID drivers lately? 2016-08-04T03:39:51 < Rob235_> no, but I need to 2016-08-04T03:40:16 < inca> Rob235_: which driver? 2016-08-04T03:40:59 < Rob235_> well I need to communicate with a device that communicates over raw HID packets 2016-08-04T03:41:26 < inca> that's vaguely what I need to do as well 2016-08-04T03:41:39 < zyp> what do you mean by driver? 2016-08-04T03:42:16 < inca> zyp: Cube, HAL, HCC, other 2016-08-04T03:42:43 < zyp> oh, you want a stm32 to be a HID host? 2016-08-04T03:42:54 * inca nods 2016-08-04T03:43:37 < Rob235_> I picked up a mbed lpc1768 because I saw it has usb host and a library but the library isn't documented at all so I haven't really messed with it yet 2016-08-04T03:43:46 < zyp> there's a guy on #libopencm3 that's been working on a usb host lib, but I don't know how usable that is yet 2016-08-04T03:44:13 < Rob235_> and the library is still in beta and not sure how much support it has 2016-08-04T03:45:05 < zyp> what kind of devices are you going to talk do? only devices with a known report layout, or are you going to need a complete report descriptor parser? 2016-08-04T03:46:16 < inca> well, it certainly is more readable https://github.com/libusbhost/libusbhost 2016-08-04T03:46:50 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nwuwbzwjdhuzogre] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-04T03:47:08 < inca> zyp: known report layout. it's a another embedded device. one I inherited (not terribly familiar). it uses SI Labs. 2016-08-04T03:48:02 < zyp> in that case you don't really need to care about the HID part at all, just treat it as a vendor specific device 2016-08-04T03:48:34 < inca> very simply, I need to get a 61 byte buffer over interrupt transfer out (two bytes set up front), then read 61 bytes over interrupt similarly 2016-08-04T03:48:42 < inca> hmm 2016-08-04T03:49:08 < inca> I was hoping to treat is a block device with a little extra state for the usb driver part 2016-08-04T03:49:17 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hlekniibnxhtzfxq] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T03:49:46 < inca> zyp: I am not familiar with that mode of operation from the docs 2016-08-04T03:50:13 < zyp> what? 2016-08-04T03:50:28 < inca> zyp: not worrying about HID 2016-08-04T03:50:57 < zyp> I mean 2016-08-04T03:51:36 < inca> I've been spinning around in CubeMX's state machines trying to figure out how to just send a couple bytes and then wait for a response 2016-08-04T03:51:42 < zyp> the HID spec mostly conserns itself with describing how reports are built up, and got a whole bunch of infrastructure to support that 2016-08-04T03:51:52 * inca nods 2016-08-04T03:51:55 < inca> so I have been reading 2016-08-04T03:52:10 < zyp> you already know how they are built up, so you don't need to care about that 2016-08-04T03:52:22 < zyp> like you said yourself, you only need to be able to send and receive interrupt packets 2016-08-04T03:53:12 < Rob235_> thats all I'm looking to do also, been using wireshark to sniff the usb packets and its just urb interrupts in and out 2016-08-04T03:53:29 < Rob235_> after the descriptors are read 2016-08-04T03:54:05 < zyp> the mouse and gamepad examples in libusbhost looks easy enough 2016-08-04T03:56:13 < inca> the control flow of the usb state machines is what's confusing 2016-08-04T03:56:53 < zyp> you're a host, you can do whatever you want 2016-08-04T03:58:17 < inca> okay. trying a new combo then, arbitrarily. Setting output report interrupt... maybe that's the packet it needs 2016-08-04T03:59:39 < inca> zyp: have you seen or used the CubeMX generated USB stuff? 2016-08-04T04:00:04 < zyp> no 2016-08-04T04:00:11 < zyp> I have no idea about that 2016-08-04T04:00:46 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T04:05:42 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-04T04:07:42 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T04:08:55 < upgrdman> is the something can will generate electricity when pressed? i know piezo, but that requires, uh, "AC" pressure. what about a constant pressure? 2016-08-04T04:09:25 < upgrdman> hmm. on second thought, maybe that's not possible 2016-08-04T04:09:38 < upgrdman> otherise a vise could give you perpetual energy. 2016-08-04T04:10:45 < zyp> upgrdman, haha 2016-08-04T04:11:34 < upgrdman> it seriously wasnt meant as a joke. i just realized how dumb it sounded after typing it out :/ 2016-08-04T04:11:46 < Chris_M> upgrdman: if you mean pressed with your finger, possibly you might get away with your fingers heat and a peltier 2016-08-04T04:29:46 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T04:30:39 < owl-v-> omg omg Microchip now produces ARM chip?? --> http://kr.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Microchip-Technology/MEC1322-LZY-C0/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuoKKEcg8mMKJrJMCR6OwdVAQ5fb9eF9BOUv2B9wg66JQ%3d%3d 2016-08-04T04:37:34 < inca> hmmm 2016-08-04T04:37:36 < inca> report type 2016-08-04T05:00:38 < englishman> lol they sure dont advertise it 2016-08-04T05:00:47 < englishman> its in their 'keyboard controllers' category 2016-08-04T05:05:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T05:16:43 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-04T05:22:27 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hlekniibnxhtzfxq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-04T05:34:29 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T05:43:19 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/8NuNju5.gifv 2016-08-04T06:00:21 < dekar> Only in Asia. 2016-08-04T06:22:42 < inca> so far USBH_InterruptReceiveData() fills the buffer once and then goes braindead 2016-08-04T06:31:32 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T06:33:46 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T06:54:54 < englishman> nice autorouting 2016-08-04T06:56:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T07:13:52 * inca sighs 2016-08-04T07:16:02 < ReadError> put your hands behind your head and spin it like a helicopter 2016-08-04T07:16:12 < inca> I am having difficulty reading 61 bytes over the usb 2016-08-04T07:18:51 < inca> the CubeMX can get the keyboard data fairly easily. just a little tweaking. 2016-08-04T07:19:14 < inca> but try to go past that and the internal state machines just start thrashing 2016-08-04T07:20:14 < inca> so then I do what zyp recommended and do my work outside of the weird statemachine loop. it almost worked. but now we are back in state hell again. 2016-08-04T07:22:09 < inca> and at the end of the day, I am trying to push and pull 61 bytes over 2 wires... 2016-08-04T07:22:16 < inca> once a second 2016-08-04T07:23:46 < inca> yes, though this has been a showstopper 2016-08-04T07:23:55 < inca> 1.5 weeks left 2016-08-04T07:28:41 < inca> I even have the PC and device driver code for the implementation. sniffed the USB packets and all that. just two packets, one in and one out. both 61 bytes 2016-08-04T07:28:50 < inca> both interrupt style 2016-08-04T07:29:25 < inca> I am doing something stupid wrong it mess it up =) 2016-08-04T07:33:26 < Rob235_> let me know if you figure it out :) 2016-08-04T07:35:13 < rue_house> I think part of the reason that I cant program the stm32F103 is that its only got 20k of ram, and the flash program that st-link tries to upload needs 512k 2016-08-04T07:35:34 < rue_house> so far no joy on programming with openocd or st-flash 2016-08-04T07:36:15 < LeelooMinai> 512k of RAM is quite a lot... 2016-08-04T07:36:30 < rue_house> <- newb 2016-08-04T07:36:36 < rue_house> maybe I'm wrong 2016-08-04T07:39:33 < Rob235_> what does casting to void do? or whatever: (void)value; does 2016-08-04T07:40:14 < Rob235_> it looks like its a null check but not sure 2016-08-04T07:40:36 < Rob235_> not my code, looking at the libusbhost 2016-08-04T07:41:30 < LeelooMinai> It only makes (little) sense if you cast the return function value to void to mark that you intended to discard it. 2016-08-04T08:53:47 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d9d.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T08:56:53 < Rob235_> I can't keep my eyes open anymore but lookin at the libusbhost library and xbox controller driver, it looks like it should be easy to get working with something custom 2016-08-04T09:03:18 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T09:06:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T09:18:56 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T09:29:10 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T09:32:30 < ReadError> thanks very much 2016-08-04T09:33:47 < ReadError> crt where is senpai ? 2016-08-04T09:37:00 < ReadError> dont play games with me homes 2016-08-04T09:45:31 < ReadError> im sure Steffanx knew what i meant 2016-08-04T09:48:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec206a0-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T09:50:52 < ReadError> you first 2016-08-04T09:52:54 < ReadError> going to be like dave jones? 2016-08-04T09:55:00 < ReadError> you can be the .au louis rossmann that fixes audio garbage 2016-08-04T09:55:18 < ReadError> god that would be such an annoying youtube channel 2016-08-04T10:04:49 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: For Sale: Parachute. 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Right now i'm down to only decoupling capacitors around the MCU, i get it to work in a socket but not on the PCB, is there any common thing that could make my STM32f042 cap the current limit. 2016-08-04T11:28:05 < Palsson> Like if a certain pin is grounded or something like that. That will cause this kind of behavior 2016-08-04T11:28:51 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.132.97.113] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T11:29:18 < jpa-> not really, apart from just having a simple short-circuit 2016-08-04T11:29:24 < ReadError> did you mix up VDD and VSS ? 2016-08-04T11:29:33 < jpa-> if you measure resistance between Vdd and Vss, what do you get? what about with diode test? 2016-08-04T11:31:05 < ReadError> pull all the caps off maybe one of them is shorted 2016-08-04T11:32:37 < jpa-> if it is a hard short (as in close to 0 resistance on meter), you can use low resistance measuring techniques to trace where it is on the PCB 2016-08-04T11:33:19 < ReadError> jpa- can you measure accurately enough to determine which cap? 2016-08-04T11:33:31 < ReadError> ive always had issues w/ solder and the probes 2016-08-04T11:33:48 < ReadError> like it can vary depending how i jab it 2016-08-04T11:34:02 < jpa-> i've done it successfully in the past 2016-08-04T11:34:36 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T11:34:36 < jpa-> my usual technique is to apply a constant current to the shorted pins, and then trace with millivolt measuring DMM to see the point where the voltage is the smallest 2016-08-04T11:34:47 < ReadError> tis the one time I wish I had some solder twizzers 2016-08-04T11:35:09 < jpa-> that way the high-current connection doesn't move, just the voltage measurement does 2016-08-04T11:36:32 < ReadError> thats smart 2016-08-04T11:36:45 < ReadError> I need to make a nice pair of DMM tweezers 2016-08-04T11:36:53 < ReadError> or sharpen up these german ones 2016-08-04T11:37:41 < PeterM> ReadError, get some nice big sewing needles, and solder some wire and banana plugs to them 2016-08-04T11:37:49 < PeterM> works 10/10 2016-08-04T11:37:59 < ReadError> PeterM yea was going to cut some g10 strips 2016-08-04T11:38:15 < ReadError> then put something pokey at the ends 2016-08-04T11:42:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T11:42:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T11:43:45 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.52] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T11:44:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.203] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T11:44:04 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T11:45:28 < Palsson> ReadError No i didn't mix VDD and VSS up it seems. For the MCU to work, should it be enough to just connect VDD VDDIO2 VDDA VSS and VSSA? 2016-08-04T11:45:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec206a0-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T11:45:40 < Palsson> Maybe also boot0? 2016-08-04T11:46:00 < Palsson> Or is there anything more that i need to connect? I mean nRST should be ok to leave floating 2016-08-04T11:47:46 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-08-04T11:53:13 < Palsson> crt it seems that between VDD and VSS, it is 0.6 MOhm 2016-08-04T11:53:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T11:54:35 < PeterM> M or m? 2016-08-04T11:55:11 < PeterM> well if theres 600k between vss and vss he probably has his current limit way to low, like 10uA 2016-08-04T11:55:16 < PeterM> lol 2016-08-04T11:59:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-04T12:01:14 < jpa-> or it is a diode-type shortcircuit and not a direct resistive one 2016-08-04T12:02:36 < PeterM> oh hey, what is up with when i lok for a review of a phone online its always a review by some rando indian guy 2016-08-04T12:03:15 < PeterM> nah 2016-08-04T12:03:32 < PeterM> it just seems like 9/10 phone reviews are by rando indians 2016-08-04T12:04:55 < Palsson> Yeah it is megaohm, the current cap is on 300 mA 2016-08-04T12:05:00 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T12:05:07 < PeterM> i go through phones pretty quickly, so its something i think is worth while putting some time into if you're spending a few hundread every few months 2016-08-04T12:05:15 < Palsson> How di i test if it is a diode-type shortcircuit? 2016-08-04T12:06:02 < PeterM> idea - sine oyu probably made the board yourself, just screenshot the layout and post it here and soemone will check if you fucked anyting up 2016-08-04T12:06:56 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:08:24 < jpa-> Palsson: with diode measurement 2016-08-04T12:08:49 < jpa-> sounds more like assembly error than layout error 2016-08-04T12:10:08 < Palsson> I'm actually not the one that designed it or the one doing the assembly, i'm actually only the one trying to fix it ^^ 2016-08-04T12:10:21 < Palsson> http://imgur.com/a/t4NXm 2016-08-04T12:10:58 < Palsson> That's the design for the MCU, i'm gonna check one more time but i don't think any pins are connected to anything right now 2016-08-04T12:11:06 < Palsson> I'm also getting a pcb without decoupling soon 2016-08-04T12:13:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:13:29 < Tectu> good morning, people of planet earth o/ 2016-08-04T12:14:11 < Tectu> thanks bro 2016-08-04T12:14:22 < Tectu> u wanna come in? 2016-08-04T12:14:32 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-04T12:14:35 < Tectu> that's how you get ém 2016-08-04T12:14:39 < Tectu> 'em 2016-08-04T12:14:56 < Tectu> and now you know why the windows are tinted 2016-08-04T12:16:37 < Tectu> how's victoria today? 2016-08-04T12:17:55 < Tectu> yeah she has seen better days, hasn't she? 2016-08-04T12:18:04 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:21:14 < Tectu> so what are you up to? 2016-08-04T12:27:36 < Palsson> Since our design with decoupling capacitors is working in a socket, it might be a problem in the PCB design with too low clearance or something like that? 2016-08-04T12:28:15 < ReadError> you arent making much sense tho 2016-08-04T12:28:18 < ReadError> works with a socket? 2016-08-04T12:28:22 < ReadError> same pcb? different pcb? 2016-08-04T12:28:28 < ReadError> whats the relevance of the socket 2016-08-04T12:28:51 < Palsson> ReadError oh sorry, it's a socket connected to a breadboard. forgot to mention that 2016-08-04T12:29:15 < ReadError> yea but, hows that rule out PCB error? 2016-08-04T12:29:47 < Palsson> ReadError that's what i'm saying "it might be a problem in the PCB design with too low clearence..." 2016-08-04T12:29:59 < Palsson> I did it to rule out that it was a schematic error 2016-08-04T12:30:29 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:31:12 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:31:23 < ReadError> what rules did you use? 2016-08-04T12:31:28 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-04T12:31:28 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:31:33 < zyp> Palsson, so in what sense doesn't the mcu work? 2016-08-04T12:31:35 < jadew> the rule of thumb 2016-08-04T12:31:40 < ReadError> zyp it shorts out 2016-08-04T12:31:48 < ReadError> at 300mA 2016-08-04T12:31:55 < zyp> oh, I missed that part 2016-08-04T12:32:05 < jadew> I just joined, what did you do? 2016-08-04T12:32:09 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:32:10 < jpa-> Palsson: i'd say it is probably a soldering mistake 2016-08-04T12:32:20 < jpa-> perhaps the whole chip is wrong way around :P 2016-08-04T12:32:23 < ReadError> or some kind of VDD/VSS swap 2016-08-04T12:32:29 < ReadError> will do similar 2016-08-04T12:32:35 < jadew> jpa-, that was my first thought too 2016-08-04T12:32:54 < jpa-> the mold release circle is easy to confuse for the orientation mark circle 2016-08-04T12:32:58 < Palsson> jpa- we soon have like 10 PCBs, and i don't see a short. 2016-08-04T12:33:22 < zyp> are you sure the stm32 is the problem? 2016-08-04T12:33:27 < jpa-> well it is not a direct short, based on your resistance measurement 2016-08-04T12:33:34 < zyp> that there's not a short elsewhere in the design? 2016-08-04T12:33:47 < jadew> Palsson, I don't think the pins can drive 300 mA 2016-08-04T12:33:59 < jadew> so it doesn't seem like a misconfiguration 2016-08-04T12:34:06 < Palsson> zyp i've checked and we have assembled PCBs with only the processor and decoupling, nothing else connected to any pin (except boot0) 2016-08-04T12:34:15 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T12:34:15 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-08-04T12:34:20 < Palsson> jadew i don't think it is either 2016-08-04T12:34:27 < ReadError> have you measured vcc vs gnd on an empty board? 2016-08-04T12:34:30 < jadew> Palsson, what's the voltage potential between vcc and gnd? 2016-08-04T12:34:35 < ReadError> ive had them come shorted from fab in one batch 2016-08-04T12:34:37 < jadew> (when shorted) 2016-08-04T12:34:53 < zyp> Palsson, double check the orientation then 2016-08-04T12:34:56 < jadew> if it's something like 0.6, then you might have the polarity reversed inside the MCU 2016-08-04T12:35:25 < Palsson> ReadError i'm afraid that it might be that or the rules in the layout since i didn't do the layout, i'm gonna check the layout. 2016-08-04T12:35:35 < Palsson> jadew so i test with the power supply connected? 2016-08-04T12:35:43 < jadew> yes, while it's shorted 2016-08-04T12:35:48 < jadew> so... do it quick 2016-08-04T12:35:52 < ReadError> Palsson do you have an empty board? 2016-08-04T12:35:53 < ReadError> just measure 2016-08-04T12:36:13 < jadew> if it's close to 0, then perhaps your footprint was wrong? 2016-08-04T12:36:20 < jadew> and you connected vcc to one of the gnd pins 2016-08-04T12:36:23 < Palsson> ReadError measure what? If it's a short 2016-08-04T12:36:23 < Palsson> ? 2016-08-04T12:36:24 < jadew> or the other way around 2016-08-04T12:36:40 < ReadError> Palsson measure VCC & GND 2016-08-04T12:36:47 < ReadError> on an unpopulated board 2016-08-04T12:36:49 < zyp> Palsson, I double checked your footprint, that looks correct as well 2016-08-04T12:37:43 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:39:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.203] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:39:21 < Palsson> ReadError should i just measure voltage on an empty pcb between VCC & GND? 2016-08-04T12:39:32 < jadew> you didn't do that yet? 2016-08-04T12:40:00 < jadew> you don't even have to measure voltage 2016-08-04T12:40:01 < Palsson> It says 3 mV 2016-08-04T12:40:03 < jadew> just measure resistance 2016-08-04T12:40:14 < jadew> Palsson, with power on? 2016-08-04T12:40:17 < Palsson> I have done that 2016-08-04T12:40:25 < jadew> and what do you get? 2016-08-04T12:40:57 < jpa-> so the empty pcb is short-circuited already? 2016-08-04T12:41:14 < zyp> jpa-, or he didn't think about applying power to the board 2016-08-04T12:41:19 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-04T12:41:28 < jadew> and he's getting thermal stuff 2016-08-04T12:42:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T12:42:22 < Palsson> I think i misunderstood you guys. I have measured 600kOhm between VDD and VSS 2016-08-04T12:42:32 < jadew> with the board unpopulated? 2016-08-04T12:42:50 < zyp> Palsson, did you do this measurement with power applied to the board or not? 2016-08-04T12:43:06 < jadew> the voltage measurement not the resistance 2016-08-04T12:43:19 < zyp> no, I'm asking about the resistance now 2016-08-04T12:43:33 < Palsson> zyp no. I have not measured anything with the power applied yet. It gets really hot. 2016-08-04T12:43:34 < zyp> because that'll explain the high reading despite a short 2016-08-04T12:43:44 < zyp> what gets hot? 2016-08-04T12:44:07 < Palsson> jadew i get 600kOhm with the PCB populated, and 2.5 megaohm with it unpopulated 2016-08-04T12:44:14 < Palsson> zyp the mcu 2016-08-04T12:44:15 < zyp> because if the chip gets hot, that's where your power goes 2016-08-04T12:44:31 < zyp> okay 2016-08-04T12:44:34 < jadew> Palsson, so maybe it's the other way around 2016-08-04T12:44:40 < jadew> now check the footprint 2016-08-04T12:44:58 < jadew> or do what I said, short it for a bit and measure voltage between vcc and gnd 2016-08-04T12:45:04 < jpa-> Palsson: are you sure the MCU is the correct way around? you can also post a photo of the PCB and we will check 2016-08-04T12:45:13 < zyp> was about to ask for photo 2016-08-04T12:45:16 < jadew> if it's 0.6V it means your powering it the other way around 2016-08-04T12:45:18 < PeterM> put bad board beside good board, play the game that was in the newspaper - spot hte difference 2016-08-04T12:45:39 < jadew> you have one that works? 2016-08-04T12:46:42 < Palsson> I don't have one that works. I see now on a PCB that the team tested that the VSSA and VDDA is kinda burnt, i think that says something :P 2016-08-04T12:46:52 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:47:05 < zyp> Palsson, are you able to post a photo of it? 2016-08-04T12:47:37 < zyp> crt, given the name, I'd think it was karlp rather 2016-08-04T12:48:13 < Palsson> Picture is coming up 2016-08-04T12:48:52 < PeterM> *fingers crossed soldering isn't like tom66* 2016-08-04T12:48:57 * jpa- prepares his schadenfreude 2016-08-04T12:49:32 * jadew prepares his lunch 2016-08-04T12:49:40 < Palsson> This is a PCB that has a lot populated and stuff, but i have PCBs that is only MCU and decoupling 2016-08-04T12:49:42 < Palsson> http://imgur.com/a/QZIVC 2016-08-04T12:51:14 < PeterM> oh heres a question, whered you get your STM32s? ebay? 2016-08-04T12:51:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T12:51:25 < zyp> Palsson, looks rotated 90 degrees to me 2016-08-04T12:51:52 < PeterM> also that 2016-08-04T12:52:18 < jpa-> text orientation compared to the dot seems strange 2016-08-04T12:52:34 < zyp> jpa-, no, it's per DS spec 2016-08-04T12:52:49 < zyp> dot is in lower left corner wrt text orientation 2016-08-04T12:53:05 < jadew> I don't see it 2016-08-04T12:53:26 < jpa-> zyp: ok 2016-08-04T12:54:01 < Palsson> PeterM i got it from a totally legit guy i met on the street :o 2016-08-04T12:54:06 < zyp> hmm, no, it looks like it might be correct 2016-08-04T12:54:20 < Palsson> No i think they got it from mouser or something 2016-08-04T12:54:34 < zyp> but the caps are swapped around wrt. where they are in the schematic, so looking at their labels doesnt help 2016-08-04T12:54:37 < Palsson> So the orientation is correct. 2016-08-04T12:54:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T12:54:52 < Palsson> ?* 2016-08-04T12:55:00 < zyp> yeah, as far as I can tell 2016-08-04T12:55:28 < Palsson> I checked with the guy that designed the PCB, he's got clearance of 0.2mm and trace width of 0.25mm 2016-08-04T12:55:32 < jpa-> i'm trying to check also 2016-08-04T12:56:07 < Palsson> It's a 2 layer pcb 2016-08-04T12:57:18 < ReadError> 0.2mm is what 8mil? 2016-08-04T12:57:25 < ReadError> that should be fine 2016-08-04T12:57:53 < zyp> well, if the mcu is heating up, it's not a short on the board 2016-08-04T12:58:10 < zyp> and I can't see anything wrong in the schematic 2016-08-04T12:58:34 < jpa-> orientation seems correct to me also 2016-08-04T12:58:52 < jpa-> but yeah, the heating appears to point to wrong polarity at MCU pins 2016-08-04T12:59:13 < jpa-> not sure where the mistake would be made 2016-08-04T12:59:19 < zyp> dumb question; are you sure your power supply is the right polarity? 2016-08-04T12:59:50 < ReadError> systemd all up in my windows 2016-08-04T12:59:54 < zyp> you should be, but I can't think of anything else at this point 2016-08-04T13:00:28 < jpa-> measuring voltage at MCU pins would be one thing to check 2016-08-04T13:01:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host109-148-150-149.range109-148.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-04T13:01:42 < zyp> also, correct polarity now wouldn't help if it were powered incorrectly before 2016-08-04T13:01:47 < jpa-> true 2016-08-04T13:01:55 < zyp> going by experience, typical failure mode for that is to fuse short 2016-08-04T13:02:01 < ReadError> wow windows has full blown ubuntu packages 2016-08-04T13:02:04 < ReadError> thats kinda useful 2016-08-04T13:02:05 < jadew> depends on how long it was powered the wrong way 2016-08-04T13:02:15 < Palsson> I have a clean one now without the decoupling, which i think still should work?! I'm gonna connect the power supply my self and try the polarity 2016-08-04T13:02:27 < jpa-> i once overvolted a chip, it worked with correct polarity but heated up like crazy after that :P 2016-08-04T13:02:48 < jpa-> "try" the polarity? 2016-08-04T13:03:00 < Palsson> Check the polarity 2016-08-04T13:03:30 < Palsson> My english fails me sometimes :P 2016-08-04T13:04:13 < zyp> det går bra, da kan vi snakke skandinavisk 2016-08-04T13:04:28 < Palsson> zyp Hahaha 2016-08-04T13:04:46 < PeterM> crt, lets try strayan' 2016-08-04T13:06:31 < jpa-> javist, alla problemer är grund på svenska 2016-08-04T13:08:50 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T13:08:54 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@111.235.64.4] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-04T13:08:54 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T13:11:20 < jadew> sau putem folosi o limba de circulatie internationala, romana 2016-08-04T13:13:08 < zyp> buna 2016-08-04T13:13:39 < jadew> helse 2016-08-04T13:13:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.203] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T13:13:58 < jadew> oh wait 2016-08-04T13:14:00 < jadew> Hallo 2016-08-04T13:14:01 < jadew> :D 2016-08-04T13:14:39 < jadew> vi lever i en fantastisk tid 2016-08-04T13:15:24 < zyp> oh, you're cheating with google translate 2016-08-04T13:15:33 < jadew> of course I am lol 2016-08-04T13:16:02 < jadew> you knew buna by yourself? 2016-08-04T13:16:09 < zyp> yeah 2016-08-04T13:16:39 < jadew> well, now I know hallo too 2016-08-04T13:17:18 < zyp> I used to be on an irc channel that frequently got mistaken for a romanian channel by random people dropping by, they often started with «buna» 2016-08-04T13:17:22 < zyp> or «sal», IIRC 2016-08-04T13:17:41 < jadew> yeah, short for salut 2016-08-04T13:18:32 < zyp> happened often enough that some of the people added an alias for a sentence in romanian telling them that they were in the wrong place 2016-08-04T13:18:40 < jadew> we even use servus, but it's slowly sliding out of the language 2016-08-04T13:18:44 < jadew> it means your servant in latin 2016-08-04T13:19:00 < jadew> haha 2016-08-04T13:22:05 < jadew> what channel was it, a couple of years ago, most of romania was on IRC, so they assumed every channel is romanian 2016-08-04T13:22:42 < jadew> there were romanian channels with 1000+ users 2016-08-04T13:23:32 * jadew banged a couple of chicks from IRC 2016-08-04T13:23:53 < zyp> IIRC the name of this channel was the same as the acronyms for one of the regions there 2016-08-04T13:24:03 < jadew> ah, makes sense 2016-08-04T13:24:11 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-04T13:25:35 < Tectu> had something similar.... there's a local linux user group here which uses "LUGO" as abbrevation (linux user group oberwallis). We got like two dozen portuguese people in our channel every day because that's some region/school in portugal 2016-08-04T13:25:36 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T13:25:57 < jadew> heh 2016-08-04T13:31:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T13:32:47 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T13:33:33 < jadew> listening to radio with a SDR is so awesome 2016-08-04T13:33:39 < Palsson> I checked the polarity and it was OK, but when i connect my PCB to the power supply, the current cap is hit at 300 mA and after that there is a short between VSS and VDD. So the MCU broke 2016-08-04T13:33:41 < jadew> it reveals interesting details 2016-08-04T13:34:12 < jadew> for example, you can tell that some stations are calibrated by the same lab 2016-08-04T13:34:21 < jadew> because they have the same offset 2016-08-04T13:34:41 < jadew> or that hehe 2016-08-04T13:34:44 < Palsson> I can't figure out where in the design it goes wrong. 2016-08-04T13:35:25 < jadew> Palsson, try another MCU 2016-08-04T13:35:40 < Palsson> jadew tried manu 2016-08-04T13:35:42 < Palsson> many* 2016-08-04T13:36:12 < jadew> which of the suggested measurements did you do? 2016-08-04T13:36:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T13:36:32 < Palsson> Or do you mean a totally different MCU as in another in the series? 2016-08-04T13:36:41 < jadew> no, a replacement 2016-08-04T13:36:50 < jadew> in case that one was fried and it was causing the issue 2016-08-04T13:36:58 < Palsson> Yeah, that i have done. 2016-08-04T13:37:00 < jadew> but if you tried another one and behaved the same, then the problem is on the board 2016-08-04T13:37:32 < Palsson> I have done most of the suggested measurements, i can't measure that much with it powered on since it gets burnt pretty quick for some reason. 2016-08-04T13:37:50 < Palsson> But it's not a short between VDD and VSS from the beginning 2016-08-04T13:37:51 < jadew> limit current 2016-08-04T13:37:54 < Palsson> superbia dunno, like 5 2016-08-04T13:38:36 < Palsson> jadew that's true 2016-08-04T13:39:58 < Steffanx> Ill troll you mr crt. 2016-08-04T13:40:23 < Steffanx> Good. 2016-08-04T13:41:25 < Tectu> lol, that IP cam looks pretty scary: https://www.brack.ch/axis-netzwerkkamera-q8665-431352 2016-08-04T13:41:42 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T13:42:22 < jadew> not only it can see if you're trying to break in, it can also kill you with lasers 2016-08-04T13:44:05 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.132.97.113] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-04T13:47:47 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T13:51:11 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-04T13:53:07 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T13:59:02 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-04T14:03:15 < Steffanx> the price is scary too Tectu. 2016-08-04T14:03:29 < Tectu> it's just money 2016-08-04T14:03:35 < Tectu> you can literally print it 2016-08-04T14:08:41 < jpa-> pocket money for Tectu 2016-08-04T14:09:15 < Tectu> nah, I barely have any money 2016-08-04T14:10:02 < jpa-> why not print some? 2016-08-04T14:10:51 < Tectu> because the required printer equipment is rather expensive and hard to come by 2016-08-04T14:13:30 < Tectu> also, not really motivated 2016-08-04T14:13:32 < Tectu> it's just money. 2016-08-04T14:13:42 < Tectu> there's more important stuff 2016-08-04T14:13:46 < Tectu> like knowing that you are well <3 2016-08-04T14:18:30 < jadew> "just money", or in other words "just stuff that enables you to do things you like" 2016-08-04T14:19:10 < Tectu> I like to care about jpa-. I don't need money for that. 2016-08-04T14:19:39 < jadew> you don't need money for that if you only like to care a little 2016-08-04T14:19:55 < jadew> if you want to care more, you'll need money 2016-08-04T14:20:20 < Tectu> thank you for making me look bad in front of jpa- :op 2016-08-04T14:20:41 < jadew> :P 2016-08-04T14:22:28 < Laurenceb> sup trolls 2016-08-04T14:23:08 < Laurenceb> today I will be raging at Qt +SP1ML, funtimes 2016-08-04T14:24:21 < PeterM> crt how did i miss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNgCkexywsw 2016-08-04T14:26:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T14:26:30 < jadew> speaking of qants, I realized something funny the other day 2016-08-04T14:26:52 < jadew> porn is the silent movies of the 21st century 2016-08-04T14:27:01 < karlp> meaning? 2016-08-04T14:27:11 < jadew> you usually watch it on mute 2016-08-04T14:27:34 < jadew> and it explains why they act so bad, they have to overact so you understand what's going on 2016-08-04T14:27:50 < zyp> you do? 2016-08-04T14:27:58 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-04T14:28:24 < zyp> I usually have the sound on 2016-08-04T14:28:41 < jadew> well, I like sound on too, but with my wife sleeping in the other room, I have to be vigilent 2016-08-04T14:29:26 < zyp> she minds you watching porn? 2016-08-04T14:29:40 < jadew> no, but I don't want her to know what kind of porn I'm watching 2016-08-04T14:29:47 < zyp> haha 2016-08-04T14:31:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T14:33:16 < jadew> lol: [14:32.47] Kake it reduces the amount of power drawn 2016-08-04T14:34:21 < jadew> [14:33.14] Ah, the resistance is too low in my circuit? 2016-08-04T14:34:21 < jadew> [14:33.24] No, 2016-08-04T14:34:21 < jadew> [14:33.49] When you have an input pun HIGH, it is drawing current from the power supply. Yoou can reduce the current with a pull-up or pull-down resistor 2016-08-04T14:34:34 < zyp> haha 2016-08-04T14:34:47 < zyp> almost sounds like a troll 2016-08-04T14:39:07 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T14:44:04 < jpa-> jadew: isn't the normal solution to have headphone in one ear only? 2016-08-04T14:47:03 < jadew> jpa-, sounds dangerous, it would either startle me or make me ignore genuine noises 2016-08-04T14:47:51 < jadew> when I was a kid I installed a speaker in my grandparents' room (I was raised by them) to speak to them 2016-08-04T14:48:00 < jadew> what they didn't know, was that I was also using it as a microphone 2016-08-04T14:48:16 < jpa-> i wonder what kind of porn jadew watches if you need sound/acting to know what is happening :) 2016-08-04T14:48:25 < jadew> haha 2016-08-04T14:48:41 < zyp> korean porn? 2016-08-04T14:48:49 < zyp> because they certainly aren't showing you anything 2016-08-04T14:49:02 < jadew> right, it's illegal there, isn't it? 2016-08-04T14:49:10 < zyp> yeah 2016-08-04T14:49:11 < jpa-> been there done that, installed mic/speaker in parent's bedroom.. for some reason it never worked more than a few hours, for some reason the cable kept breaking ;) 2016-08-04T14:49:25 < jadew> hehe 2016-08-04T14:50:42 < jadew> when I didn't have a TV in my room and they didn't let me watch cartoons I would go in theirs and turn on a small oscillator that I discovered would screw up the TV signal 2016-08-04T14:51:39 < jadew> felt guilty about it so I didn't do it often 2016-08-04T14:52:18 < Steffanx> Nowadays the kids have it easy. Just an app on a phone to switch channel etc. 2016-08-04T14:52:21 < jpa-> i used an 80's PC video capture card (b/w of course) as a TV on old 386.. but it got only like 1 FPS 2016-08-04T14:52:37 < jadew> "oh, it's not working again, maybe other channels are working? there it is, only the channel with the cartoons on is working." 2016-08-04T14:52:39 < jpa-> tried to optimize it in assembler but i didn't know you could write directly to graphics ram without bios routines :P 2016-08-04T14:52:41 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T14:55:23 < jadew> it's weird people are still watching TV 2016-08-04T14:56:13 < jadew> you rarely find something that you'd like to see and the ad breaks are unbearable 2016-08-04T14:56:32 < jpa-> my tv has been in the closet since last move (2+ years ago) 2016-08-04T14:57:35 < jadew> we still have one, but I never watch anything 2016-08-04T14:57:37 < Steffanx> Here in dutchland there are still some interesting documentaries on tv without ads jadew 2016-08-04T14:58:06 < Steffanx> but mostly because it's all payed by "public" money. 2016-08-04T14:58:18 < jpa-> here the adfree (government) channels are also available for free online as vod 2016-08-04T14:58:21 < Steffanx> *paid 2016-08-04T14:58:27 < Steffanx> Yes that too. 2016-08-04T14:58:32 < jadew> in here the government channels have ads 2016-08-04T14:58:47 < jadew> and everyone pays a TV tax 2016-08-04T14:59:13 < Steffanx> Also not really ad free, but only ads when stuff ended and before the next program starts. 2016-08-04T14:59:43 < jadew> ah, don't know about that 2016-08-04T15:00:00 < jadew> I remember when I was a kid the government channels had awesome documentaries 2016-08-04T15:00:59 < jadew> not anymore tho 2016-08-04T15:02:12 < Laurenceb> stupid SP1ML 2016-08-04T15:02:32 < Laurenceb> spirit1 turnaround time tx<->rx is 15µs, SP1ML needs >10ms 2016-08-04T15:05:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T15:11:42 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-04T15:11:48 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T15:12:48 < Laurenceb> trying to redesign the buffering to get around it 2016-08-04T15:13:12 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T15:13:25 < Laurenceb> theoretically I'm using about 25% of the capacity 2016-08-04T15:14:32 * Laurenceb hates telemetry links 2016-08-04T15:18:10 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-04T15:19:22 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T15:20:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T15:24:44 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-04T15:24:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-04T15:28:16 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.52] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T15:28:50 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T15:41:47 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/3u98ku7.jpg 2016-08-04T15:42:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T15:43:13 < Tectu> stop it Laurenceb 2016-08-04T15:46:03 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T15:49:46 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@94.234.37.41] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T15:51:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.101] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T15:51:49 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-04T15:53:35 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y2_eJFYZbo 2016-08-04T15:53:39 < ReadError> elon rambling on 2016-08-04T15:59:58 < Laurenceb> elon has gone senile 2016-08-04T16:01:24 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=57a_1470302571 2016-08-04T16:01:59 < ReadError> its liveleak.com 2016-08-04T16:05:20 < Ecco> I'm having an issue with Altium 2016-08-04T16:05:25 < Ecco> I'm trying to design a custom pad 2016-08-04T16:05:42 < Ecco> that's basically a standard sloted pad plus an extension on one side 2016-08-04T16:05:59 < Ecco> so In my component I placed a pad and added a simple fill 2016-08-04T16:06:15 < Ecco> but for some reason, Altium tells me I have a short circuit betwen the pad and the fill 2016-08-04T16:06:27 < Ecco> (which is true, but that's the behavior I want) 2016-08-04T16:06:32 < Ecco> and it tells me this is a design rule violation 2016-08-04T16:06:44 < Ecco> how can I tell it that I *want* the pad and the fill to be connected? 2016-08-04T16:06:53 < zyp> make them the same net or something 2016-08-04T16:07:13 < Ecco> well I'm not sure this can be done in the PCBLib 2016-08-04T16:07:22 < Ecco> because I can't tell in advance what net the component will belong to 2016-08-04T16:07:55 < zyp> http://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Creating+a+Custom+Pad+Shape <- I assume you've read this? 2016-08-04T16:08:10 < Ecco> yes, but they seem to avoid the question 2016-08-04T16:09:19 < zyp> maybe it's supposed to just work 2016-08-04T16:09:26 < Ecco> Yeah 2016-08-04T16:09:29 < Ecco> But that's very weird 2016-08-04T16:09:38 < Ecco> I did exactly what they say 2016-08-04T16:09:43 < Ecco> and it doesn't seem to be working 2016-08-04T16:10:17 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-04T16:11:50 < zyp> http://techdocs.altium.com/display/ADOH/Creating+Library+Components+Tutorial#CreatingLibraryComponentsTutorial-ManagingComponentsthatIncludeRoutingPrimitivesintheirFootprint <- this then? 2016-08-04T16:12:30 < zyp> but that looks like pcb view again 2016-08-04T16:13:51 < Tectu> I miss dongs 2016-08-04T16:14:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T16:16:24 < inca> where did dongs go? 2016-08-04T16:16:29 < inca> Tectu! 2016-08-04T16:16:36 < Tectu> to bed 2016-08-04T16:16:38 < Tectu> inca! 2016-08-04T16:16:39 < Tectu> how are you man? 2016-08-04T16:16:54 < inca> I am super! how are you? 2016-08-04T16:17:10 < Tectu> Just fine man! 2016-08-04T16:17:12 < Tectu> long time no see 2016-08-04T16:18:14 < inca> so should I have my client purchase the hcc usb host for a generic HID driver or should I try something else before giving in to the nice looking API... 2016-08-04T16:18:18 < inca> https://doc.hcc-embedded.com/display/UDHID/usbd_ghid_init 2016-08-04T16:19:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-04T16:19:29 < inca> I have a simple generic HID Host application to implement: write 61 bytes, read 61 bytes. both interrupt mode. 2016-08-04T16:19:43 < inca> it works on PC to device, not STM32 to device. 2016-08-04T16:21:21 < inca> I think ST's CubeMX USB driver has 5 or 6 state machines to service it. their driver is a bit difficult to learn from. 2016-08-04T16:22:02 < Laurenceb> omg, nested? 2016-08-04T16:22:50 < inca> Laurenceb, not only nested... interdependent! 2016-08-04T16:22:58 < Laurenceb> ouch 2016-08-04T16:23:02 < Tectu> better QStateMachine 2016-08-04T16:23:17 < Laurenceb> most I've done is two deep with that sort of stuff 2016-08-04T16:25:49 < inca> and undocumented 2016-08-04T16:25:52 < inca> just read the code 2016-08-04T16:25:57 < inca> printf! 2016-08-04T16:28:42 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-04T16:30:07 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-04T16:31:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T16:33:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.181] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T16:34:29 < inca> I briefly thought about trying the ChibiOS-Contrib usb host driver 2016-08-04T16:35:05 < inca> but it's dependencies are a mess and importing to Atollic (which is mostly free now) was not trivial 2016-08-04T16:35:22 < Tectu> "mostly free"? Isn't it completely free now? 2016-08-04T16:36:22 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T16:36:41 < inca> they sell a pro version with some debugger benefits 2016-08-04T16:40:03 < Tectu> yeah, better use OS X 2016-08-04T16:40:32 < ReadError> inca adding contrib stuff to chibios isnt hard 2016-08-04T16:41:31 < inca> ReadError: adding is not the issue... building it and documentation are 2016-08-04T16:45:48 < Tectu> yeah, just let me know. I'm the administrator of the chibios contrib stuff 2016-08-04T16:46:06 < Tectu> although I think I gave that to somebody else once I moved chibios/gfx to ugfx 2016-08-04T16:46:12 < Tectu> but I still got the access 2016-08-04T16:52:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.181] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-04T16:53:25 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T16:58:01 < rue_house> anyone programming STM32F103 with stlink-v2? 2016-08-04T16:58:46 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-04T17:00:29 < Fleck> yes me 2016-08-04T17:01:08 < Fleck> gave you config/cmd example yesterday, need to upgrade openocd though 2016-08-04T17:02:58 < rue_house> still nothin is working 2016-08-04T17:03:19 < rue_house> the latest snag seems to be "Error: stm32x device protected" 2016-08-04T17:03:48 < rue_house> but attempts to bulk erase it aren't working 2016-08-04T17:04:38 < Fleck> http://imgur.com/a/d5gE9 2016-08-04T17:05:24 < rue_house> yup 2016-08-04T17:06:35 < Fleck> openocd version? 2016-08-04T17:06:45 < rue_house> 0.8.0 2016-08-04T17:06:57 < Fleck> can't help :D 2016-08-04T17:07:00 < rue_house> we tried st-flash too 2016-08-04T17:07:29 < Fleck> 0.9.0 at least afaik 2016-08-04T17:07:41 < Fleck> I am using 0.10.0-dev-snapshot 2016-08-04T17:08:05 < Fleck> have had problems with st-flash ... meh 2016-08-04T17:08:05 < rue_house> and that will fix the device protected error? 2016-08-04T17:08:11 < Fleck> since using openocd - no problems! :) 2016-08-04T17:08:16 < Fleck> dunno 2016-08-04T17:08:25 < Fleck> I am just saying - can't help 2016-08-04T17:08:32 < rue_house> anyone ever come across that one? 2016-08-04T17:08:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T17:08:58 < Fleck> 0.8.0 is like 2yrs old, I doubt somebody remembers something like that ;P 2016-08-04T17:09:08 < rue_house> yea, I'm on debian 2016-08-04T17:09:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T17:10:17 < Fleck> crt: isn't debian known as old-package system? :D 2016-08-04T17:10:25 < Fleck> doubt there is an update 2016-08-04T17:11:02 < Fleck> unless manually installs newer 2016-08-04T17:11:06 < Fleck> if that works at all 2016-08-04T17:11:17 < rue_house> yea everything for debian is a few years old 2016-08-04T17:11:42 < rue_house> to the point they have to port things in special ways to get things that are up to date 2016-08-04T17:12:14 < rue_house> but this is the same install I did back in 2000 2016-08-04T17:12:22 < rue_house> lots of hardware and software upgrades 2016-08-04T17:12:24 < Fleck> [17:08:05] and that will fix the device protected error? 2016-08-04T17:12:40 < Fleck> err, I mean try this: https://github.com/gnuarmeclipse/openocd/releases/download/gae-0.10.0-20160110/gnuarmeclipse-openocd-debian32-0.10.0-201601101000-dev.tgz 2016-08-04T17:12:55 < rue_house> ok, just looking at the upgrade 2016-08-04T17:13:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-04T17:13:57 < qyx> rue_house: yes, upgrade to 0.9.0 2016-08-04T17:15:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T17:17:27 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YxCyeaOVOU 2016-08-04T17:17:31 < Laurenceb> lul top comment 2016-08-04T17:24:52 < jadew> wtf, they were going for their luggage first 2016-08-04T17:26:03 < jadew> and about the first comment, I was thinking the same thing 2016-08-04T17:26:08 < jadew> wtf is wrong with people 2016-08-04T17:26:42 < zyp> fucking people 2016-08-04T17:26:55 < Laurenceb> *indians 2016-08-04T17:27:06 < zyp> yeah right 2016-08-04T17:27:29 < jadew> I wonder if that guy got his laptop 2016-08-04T17:27:42 < Laurenceb> /pol/acks would be too busy gassing to evacuate 2016-08-04T17:28:11 < Ecco> I want to use an FPC connector in Altium 2016-08-04T17:28:12 < Ecco> with 50 pins 2016-08-04T17:28:21 < Ecco> some of those pins have to be bridged 2016-08-04T17:28:21 < Laurenceb> so draw it? 2016-08-04T17:28:49 < Ecco> I could bridge them in the schematics but it's not really relevant to my own usage of that part 2016-08-04T17:29:03 < Ecco> the part (an LCD panel) always expects those pins to be bridged 2016-08-04T17:29:13 < Ecco> so I'd like it to be defined in the symbol itself 2016-08-04T17:29:16 < Ecco> is that possible? 2016-08-04T17:29:20 < Ecco> There's a "connect to" option 2016-08-04T17:29:24 < Ecco> but it seems a bit flaky 2016-08-04T17:29:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T17:30:19 < zyp> Ecco, I think the normal trick is to place multiple pins on top of each other in the symbol 2016-08-04T17:30:27 < zyp> hiding all but the first 2016-08-04T17:30:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T17:30:53 < jadew> that's a good one 2016-08-04T17:31:13 < zyp> how it connects isn't relevant to the footprint symbol so you should just make that as normal, then do the magic in the symbol 2016-08-04T17:31:19 < zyp> schematic symbol 2016-08-04T17:32:19 < Ecco> zyp: Sounds like that would work 2016-08-04T17:32:24 < Ecco> But it seems very dirty 2016-08-04T17:32:35 < Ecco> are you kidding or was that a serious advice? 2016-08-04T17:32:49 < zyp> I'm serious 2016-08-04T17:32:56 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-04T17:32:58 < zyp> I haven't done it myself, but I've seen it done 2016-08-04T17:33:01 < Ecco> Well I guess it can work 2016-08-04T17:33:02 < Ecco> lemme try :) 2016-08-04T17:33:43 < Ecco> Well wait 2016-08-04T17:33:47 < Ecco> you should not hide the pin I guess 2016-08-04T17:33:52 < zyp> I think I looked that up when I started out with altium and wanted to merge vcc and gnd pins in the symbol 2016-08-04T17:33:53 < Ecco> maybe just overlap them all 2016-08-04T17:34:05 < Ecco> and hide their name only 2016-08-04T17:34:34 < zyp> but it seemed too dirty and not worth it, so I just put all the pins next to each other on the symbol instead 2016-08-04T17:34:42 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-04T17:35:07 < zyp> for shielded connectors with multiple pads, I usually let them all have the designator SH, so there's only a single SH pin in the symbol 2016-08-04T17:35:08 < Ecco> That "connect to" option really is poorly implemented 2016-08-04T17:35:21 < zyp> but I wouldn't do that for normal numbered pads 2016-08-04T17:35:28 < Ecco> That would work too, but in my case they're numbered 2016-08-04T17:35:31 < Ecco> exactly 2016-08-04T17:36:06 < zyp> if you do that you end up with a special case footprint, which is kinda silly 2016-08-04T17:36:14 < Ecco> yep 2016-08-04T17:39:27 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T17:41:01 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@94.234.37.41] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-04T17:42:20 < Ecco> Well it does work! 2016-08-04T17:42:25 < Ecco> Kinda ugly 2016-08-04T17:42:33 < Ecco> But the ugliness is localized 2016-08-04T17:42:45 < Ecco> and it lets me do what the "Connect To" option wouldn't 2016-08-04T17:42:53 < Ecco> So thanks zyp ! 2016-08-04T17:42:57 < zyp> np 2016-08-04T17:44:38 < Tectu> I did a couple of years ago 2016-08-04T17:44:46 < Tectu> because $boss 2016-08-04T17:44:55 < Tectu> to change my job 2016-08-04T17:45:25 < Tectu> buggiest PCB layouting tool I ever saw 2016-08-04T17:45:41 < Tectu> drawing schematics was somewhat alright, but attaching foodprints was total aids 2016-08-04T17:45:47 -!- Blatinox [~Blatinox@blatinox.fr] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 1.0.1"] 2016-08-04T17:46:01 < Tectu> but then again, that was about 5 years ago so no idea how it's now 2016-08-04T17:47:26 < Tectu> I gotta go, have fun with that 2016-08-04T17:47:46 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T17:48:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T17:52:21 < Laurenceb> you could become a "female companion" 2016-08-04T17:52:31 < Laurenceb> enjoy the landwhale 2016-08-04T17:54:23 < Laurenceb> again?! I never leave 2016-08-04T17:54:47 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T17:59:04 < Ecco> When using a polygon pour as a ground plane 2016-08-04T17:59:11 < Ecco> should I remove dead copper or not? 2016-08-04T17:59:18 < qyx> sup dongs 2016-08-04T17:59:25 < Palsson> crt i am still alive, but i haven't gotten anywhere with my problem. 2016-08-04T17:59:30 < qyx> what are you using for pro electronic parts management/calatog? 2016-08-04T17:59:38 < qyx> software I mean 2016-08-04T18:02:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T18:03:02 * Laurenceb is writing SP1ML sim code in matlab 2016-08-04T18:03:05 < Laurenceb> funtimes 2016-08-04T18:03:19 < zyp> Ecco, I would 2016-08-04T18:03:54 < zyp> keeping around unconnected traces isn't a good idea 2016-08-04T18:04:36 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-04T18:04:42 < qyx> I am removing them too 2016-08-04T18:07:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-04T18:07:51 < zyp> even if there's nothing driving them, they can couple with nearby traces and still act as an antenna 2016-08-04T18:07:59 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-04T18:08:01 < Ecco> makes sense 2016-08-04T18:13:11 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T18:18:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-04T18:25:59 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T18:29:06 < Laurenceb> lulz 2016-08-04T18:29:30 * Laurenceb writes new SP1ML codez with 8k buffers on either end 2016-08-04T18:29:33 < Laurenceb> this better work 2016-08-04T18:29:51 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ielqzquhggqqznhm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-04T18:46:33 < englishman> hello sexuals 2016-08-04T18:46:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-04T18:51:11 < Ecco> Eurocircuits is amazing 2016-08-04T18:53:13 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m83-186-87-142.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Or some express shipping? 2016-08-04T19:09:08 < ReadError> depends what you got 2016-08-04T19:09:45 < Rob235> ups express or whatever their international method is. it was like $30 2016-08-04T19:09:50 < Rob235> for a 2kg package 2016-08-04T19:10:18 < Rob235> cheapest method they offered 2016-08-04T19:10:39 < ReadError> what size props? 2016-08-04T19:10:46 < Rob235> 12" 2016-08-04T19:10:51 < Rob235> x4.5 2016-08-04T19:11:13 < Rob235> I went with the RunCam2 camera 2016-08-04T19:11:30 < ReadError> https://photos.smugmug.com/Quads/i-s9STKCn/0/X3/CA_05261510470444-X3.jpg 2016-08-04T19:11:38 < ReadError> think i have 12x5.5 there 2016-08-04T19:12:13 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/VJywi 2016-08-04T19:12:22 < Rob235> thats with all CCW props just to see what it will look like 2016-08-04T19:13:00 < ReadError> why no direct mount? 2016-08-04T19:13:20 < Rob235> the props have to have those two holes for that right? 2016-08-04T19:13:25 < Laurenceb> whats the image resolution? 2016-08-04T19:13:28 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-04T19:13:36 < Laurenceb> firefox is compression bombing :( 2016-08-04T19:13:41 < Rob235> I just got cheap gemfan props for testing until I get real carbon fiber 2016-08-04T19:13:59 < ReadError> Rob235 these are pretty cheap 2016-08-04T19:14:05 < ReadError> dollar or 2 2016-08-04T19:14:39 < Rob235> well I had ordered these before I knew anything, still have a lot to learn. they will have to do for now 2016-08-04T19:14:51 < Rob235> I'm sure they will all break quickly and I'll get new ones :) 2016-08-04T19:15:12 < Rob235> Laurenceb: image res on what 2016-08-04T19:15:20 < Rob235> the imgur post? 2016-08-04T19:16:26 < Rob235> hmmm: 4250x2390 2016-08-04T19:17:36 < Laurenceb> stupid firefox 2016-08-04T19:17:40 < Rob235> are those sunnysky motors? 2016-08-04T19:18:26 < Rob235> looks like the same dark orange mine are 2016-08-04T19:18:35 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-04T19:18:46 < Rob235> what kV? 2016-08-04T19:19:18 < ReadError> 700 or 900 i forget 2016-08-04T19:19:33 < Rob235> ahh, mine are 580 2016-08-04T19:20:45 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-04T19:23:22 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T19:25:24 < Laurenceb> is there a tool to calculate stm baud rate error? 2016-08-04T19:26:00 < Laurenceb> I'm having issues with 230400 baud :-/ 2016-08-04T19:26:34 < Rob235> baud rate of what 2016-08-04T19:26:41 < Laurenceb> usart 2016-08-04T19:26:44 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-04T19:27:00 < Rob235> logic analyzer/scope? 2016-08-04T19:27:07 < Laurenceb> yeah saleae 2016-08-04T19:27:33 < Laurenceb> its saysing its about 4% off, and SP1ML it doesnt rx SP1ML data 2016-08-04T19:27:36 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T19:27:37 < Rob235> have you checked the signal in there to see whats going wrong? 2016-08-04T19:27:48 < Laurenceb> yes I'm looking at the data 2016-08-04T19:27:50 < Laurenceb> it looks off 2016-08-04T19:27:58 < Rob235> lower bauds are perfect though? 2016-08-04T19:28:08 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-04T19:29:18 < Rob235> not sure then. I had an issue with initial clock settings that caused my baudrates to be a little off but everything was slightly off so its obviously not that 2016-08-04T19:29:47 < Rob235> never tried a baudrate that high 2016-08-04T19:30:20 < Laurenceb> time to delve into periph lib source :-/ 2016-08-04T19:30:42 < upgrdman> 230400 is high? :D 2016-08-04T19:30:58 < Rob235> I dont know, I've never tried over 115200 2016-08-04T19:30:59 < upgrdman> shit, i get pissed that 2MBaud isn't reliable and i have to settle for 1MBaud 2016-08-04T19:32:02 < Laurenceb> actually its off at lower speeds 2016-08-04T19:32:15 < Laurenceb> I suspect periph lib has incorrect xtal speed 2016-08-04T19:32:16 < upgrdman> which remind me, many ftdi's are rated for 3MBaud... anyone used 3MBaud reliably with them? does that require clocking the ftdi from the mcu clkout? 2016-08-04T19:33:19 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T19:33:46 < Rob235> Laurenceb: in system_stm......c I had to change the one of the PLL_ variables, PLL_M, PLL_N, or PLL_P 2016-08-04T19:33:52 < Rob235> to get timings to work 2016-08-04T19:33:58 < Laurenceb> eek 2016-08-04T19:34:00 < Rob235> not sure if its a similar problem 2016-08-04T19:34:06 < Laurenceb> this is F1 2016-08-04T19:34:33 < Rob235> yea I dont know enough about this stuff, just trying to throw my experience at you to see if anything helps heh 2016-08-04T19:34:41 < englishman> (((dongs))) goes missing the same day pokemon bots are disabled, coincidence? detected. 2016-08-04T19:35:01 < upgrdman> Laurenceb, on f0, i think i've used UpdateSystemCoreClock() to fix things before. iirc that updates a global which contains the sysclock speed 2016-08-04T19:36:22 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T19:36:30 < Laurenceb> ah found the problem 2016-08-04T19:36:50 < Laurenceb> make clean doesnt detect config change in periph lib due to it having its own makefile 2016-08-04T19:37:17 < Laurenceb> I haxored board with a tcxo recently and frequency changed a little 2016-08-04T19:37:28 < Rob235> wow, my credit score is just about in the 'good' range!, been working on it for the past few years, not that I plan on using my credit for anything soon but nice to have 2016-08-04T19:37:35 < Laurenceb> for some reason it causes usart config code to fail more at some settings than others 2016-08-04T19:37:54 < ReadError> whats considered good? 2016-08-04T19:38:04 < Rob235> 700 min 2016-08-04T19:38:15 < Rob235> I'm at about 690 2016-08-04T19:38:23 < Rob235> was at like 500 hah 2016-08-04T19:38:23 < ReadError> oh i think i was 8something last i checked 2016-08-04T19:38:31 < Rob235> yea I destroyed my credit in college 2016-08-04T19:38:32 < ReadError> but i dont pay much attention 2016-08-04T19:39:04 < Laurenceb> debt is slavery! 2016-08-04T19:39:21 < englishman> dont go into debt to pay attention 2016-08-04T19:39:30 < Rob235> no more debt 2016-08-04T19:39:42 * Laurenceb has only ever had student loan, paid it back in a few months by taking high paid temp job, simples 2016-08-04T19:40:03 < Steffanx> And what one pays per year in ukland? 2016-08-04T19:40:38 < Rob235> I had about 25k in student loans and 15k on credit cards at one point 2016-08-04T19:41:09 < Steffanx> Oops 2016-08-04T19:41:11 < ReadError> wait 2016-08-04T19:41:16 < ReadError> 25k and still in school? 2016-08-04T19:41:16 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T19:41:18 < ReadError> what the fuck 2016-08-04T19:41:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T19:41:25 < ReadError> did you go out of state or something? 2016-08-04T19:42:17 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T19:43:21 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T19:43:41 < Rob235> no, just went for a long time, personal issues that I'd rather not get into with IRC trolls around, ended up dropping out after 5 years a year worth of credits short of graduating, just started taking online classes to finish up this past year 2016-08-04T19:44:52 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: about 14k UKP 2016-08-04T19:45:30 < Laurenceb> IRC trolls around 2016-08-04T19:45:36 < Laurenceb> I resemble that remark 2016-08-04T19:45:41 < Rob235> haha 2016-08-04T19:46:09 < Steffanx> Why you never renamed to trollenceb? 2016-08-04T19:48:02 < Laurenceb> interesting that US fees arent massively higher than UK 2016-08-04T19:48:22 < Rob235> I thought 25k was low 2016-08-04T19:48:29 < Steffanx> You also get non-loan type funding? 2016-08-04T19:48:42 < Laurenceb> do here yeah, there are tons of gov grants 2016-08-04T19:48:49 < Laurenceb> its a pita to apply to all the stuff 2016-08-04T19:48:59 < Rob235> I got a lot of grants and subsidized loans 2016-08-04T19:48:59 < Steffanx> Grant. That word i was looking for 2016-08-04T19:49:26 < Rob235> I actually got a 2-4k check every semester in overpayments 2016-08-04T19:49:45 < Laurenceb> https://media.giphy.com/media/26BRxjQXtmOyU8rcI/giphy-downsized-large.gif 2016-08-04T19:50:16 < Steffanx> So serious and then this.. 2016-08-04T19:51:04 < Rob235> maybe it's just relativity at play but hillary doesn't seem that bad 2016-08-04T19:51:17 < Laurenceb> lul relativity 2016-08-04T19:51:39 < Steffanx> So true rob 2016-08-04T19:51:54 < ReadError> Rob235 could be worse, you could go to prison with 3hrs left on an engineering degree 2016-08-04T19:52:12 < Rob235> personal experience? 2016-08-04T19:52:19 < ReadError> idk 2016-08-04T19:52:28 < ReadError> just sayin 2016-08-04T19:53:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-04T19:55:05 < Rob235> alright I have to look at my ws2812 library and fix this weird ass problem. I'm not flying this thing with everything working except this strange LED bug 2016-08-04T19:57:51 < Steffanx> Prison. Uhm, why readerror? 2016-08-04T19:58:19 < ReadError> i duno mang 2016-08-04T19:59:01 < Steffanx> Ok makes sense now. 2016-08-04T20:01:29 < Rob235> I'm trying to remember what tuition was when I was going to Rutgers, I want to say 8k a semester and 4-7k for housing 2016-08-04T20:04:29 < Rob235> so 25k in owed loans really wasn't bad 2016-08-04T20:04:44 < ReadError> 3hrs costed fuckin like, 3.5k ? 2016-08-04T20:04:45 < ReadError> I think 2016-08-04T20:05:08 < ReadError> im all for lowering education cost/subsidizing 2016-08-04T20:05:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.73] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:05:18 < ReadError> but we dont need more poly science or art fucks 2016-08-04T20:05:18 < Rob235> what I said was full time, 12+ credit hours 2016-08-04T20:08:44 < Rob235> I have nothing to compare it to since I'm not a camera guy but this looks pretty good for $99 right? https://youtu.be/ixWZB98l16M 2016-08-04T20:08:57 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vN_PEmeKb0 2016-08-04T20:09:46 < Rob235> 1440p @ 30fps, 1080p @ 60fps, 720p @ 120fps 2016-08-04T20:10:10 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:10:31 < ReadError> uncle Laurence 2016-08-04T20:10:35 < ReadError> tell us a cucktime story 2016-08-04T20:10:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.73] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T20:11:16 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@LFbn-1-1273-228.w86-253.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-04T20:14:32 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-04T20:19:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-04T20:22:16 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-04T20:23:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-04T20:28:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-04T20:33:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:40:27 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T20:43:42 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-04T20:44:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:44:53 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:47:43 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-04T20:50:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:51:34 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-04T20:53:09 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-04T20:54:20 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:55:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T20:58:37 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T21:00:28 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T21:05:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:a0a9:2833:11f3:2f76] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T21:06:46 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T21:12:28 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T21:12:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T21:15:18 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad199.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T21:18:52 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T21:29:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.116] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T21:31:29 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-04T21:34:09 < Laurenceb> hmf wtf 2016-08-04T21:34:14 < Laurenceb> seems I broke my usart 2016-08-04T21:38:27 < Laurenceb> should usart interrupts be disable whilst reconfiguring a usart? 2016-08-04T21:44:44 < scrts> for sure 2016-08-04T21:45:23 < scrts> you might end up in an endless loop of interrupts if configured incorrectly or interrupts happen during reconfiguration 2016-08-04T21:48:32 < Laurenceb> ah yeah that was my issue 2016-08-04T21:48:33 < Laurenceb> woot 2016-08-04T21:48:40 < Laurenceb> SP1ML is working fast enough 2016-08-04T21:55:55 < Laurenceb> only its dropping packets now :( 2016-08-04T21:56:11 < Laurenceb> I'm beginning to think this is as impossible as bluetooth 2016-08-04T21:56:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T22:00:53 < Rob235> whats impossible about bluetooth? 2016-08-04T22:01:03 < Rob235> havent messed with it yet 2016-08-04T22:01:06 < Laurenceb> dunno, doesnt play nicely with qt 2016-08-04T22:01:20 < Laurenceb> gets laggy then disconnects 2016-08-04T22:12:39 < Ultrasauce> *somebody's* doing io in the ui thread 2016-08-04T22:12:43 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T22:13:14 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T22:13:37 < Laurenceb> its supposed to be buffered 2016-08-04T22:14:05 < Laurenceb> apparently its a driver bug, I could fix it using pyserial but thats a lot of work to make user friendly 2016-08-04T22:15:15 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-04T22:15:57 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T22:30:11 < Laurenceb> guess I could use two sp1ml modules 2016-08-04T22:36:56 < owl-v-> MIPS was sold to Imagination Technologies, and now ARM Holdings is being sold to SoftBank :P 2016-08-04T22:36:57 < Steffanx> or 4 2016-08-04T22:37:32 < Steffanx> never heard of Imagination Technologies owl-v- 2016-08-04T22:39:52 < owl-v-> Steffanx, do you know PowerVR GPU? Imagination Technologies owns it. 2016-08-04T22:40:47 < owl-v-> Steffanx, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIPS 2016-08-04T22:41:01 < owl-v-> Imagination Technologies acquired MIPS Technologies on December 17, 2012 for $100,000,000 2016-08-04T22:41:08 < Steffanx> i just never heard of that company 2016-08-04T22:43:03 < owl-v-> I was shocked to hear this news because I was studying MIPS processor at that time!!! 2016-08-04T22:50:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.136.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-04T22:52:37 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-04T23:31:04 < Fleck> how is it going rue_house? 2016-08-04T23:31:17 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T23:31:31 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T23:36:10 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-04T23:38:14 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T23:43:54 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-04T23:47:29 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-04T23:49:38 < Steffanx> better tell your pc to not sleep so fast owl-v- 2016-08-04T23:50:24 < owl-v-> ya. laptop battery.. 2016-08-04T23:51:19 < owl-v-> done. 2016-08-04T23:59:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:a0a9:2833:11f3:2f76] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] --- Day changed Fri Aug 05 2016 2016-08-05T00:06:31 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T00:07:44 < karlp> rc and battery nerds, if I just want a AA/AAA charger for eneloops/nimhs is there anything special I need to look out for? or anything to "just buy" ? 2016-08-05T00:08:03 < karlp> don't really have any lipos or antyhing right now, so not really necessary 2016-08-05T00:13:52 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad199.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-05T00:14:03 < PeterM> karlp get one that can cycle 2016-08-05T00:14:19 < karlp> what does that do? 2016-08-05T00:14:20 < PeterM> and you can see teh charged capaccity 2016-08-05T00:14:57 < karlp> independent channels seems useful, as I have some headlights withsingle AAs, so http://www.dx.com/p/soshine-h4-1-5-lcd-4-slot-universal-charger-for-li-ion-lifepo4-26650-18650-aa-aaa-black-341209#.V6OvGSOLQy4 looks "ok" ? but no mention of "cycle" 2016-08-05T00:15:20 < PeterM> cycling nimhs/nicds eats up a few cahrge/discharge cycles to restore come internal resistance and energy capacity 2016-08-05T00:15:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T00:16:09 < karlp> and a smart one can work that out and do it automatically? 2016-08-05T00:16:56 < PeterM> nah, no need for it to automagically do it 2016-08-05T00:17:23 < PeterM> that charger is pretty good for its price but it doesnt cycle 2016-08-05T00:17:29 < karlp> so it's a mode to select to discharge it? 2016-08-05T00:17:43 < PeterM> if you dont eave your batteries discharged for long periods of tiem its not that nessecary 2016-08-05T00:17:47 < PeterM> but people do/ 2016-08-05T00:18:06 < PeterM> its a mode where it will charge-discharge-charge, jsut once 2016-08-05T00:18:13 < PeterM> or a selectable amount of times 2016-08-05T00:22:48 < englishman> karlp: i like these http://charger.nitecore.com/ 2016-08-05T00:22:56 < englishman> this one http://charger.nitecore.com/product/digicharger-d4 2016-08-05T00:23:14 < englishman> cheap, works 2016-08-05T00:23:44 < englishman> whats the cycling for PeterM ? do nimhs have memory? 2016-08-05T00:24:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T00:24:04 < englishman> i thought that was nicd 2016-08-05T00:26:15 < karlp> englishman: yeah, there's a d4 on dx.com too, but the euro plug is sold out 2016-08-05T00:26:32 < karlp> looks pretty similar 2016-08-05T00:27:15 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad2b8.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T00:29:15 < karlp> d4 is nice, has a mains input with figure 8 connector, 2016-08-05T00:48:21 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T00:48:24 < Laurenceb__> I hate the SP1ML 2016-08-05T00:48:30 < Laurenceb__> I hate everything 2016-08-05T00:48:54 < Steffanx> Bye Laurenceb__. 2016-08-05T00:49:07 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-05T00:49:09 < karlp> PeterM: so is the "discharge" thing on this one the cycle thing you're talking about: http://www.gearbest.com/chargers/pp_228907.html 2016-08-05T00:51:01 < Laurenceb__> guess I have one last SP1ML strategy - match the baud rate to the outgoing data throughput 2016-08-05T00:51:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-05T00:51:14 < Laurenceb__> then the tx buffer shouldn't overflow 2016-08-05T00:52:45 < Laurenceb__> or just kill it with fire 2016-08-05T01:15:53 < Rob235> I gotta stop messing with and breaking stuff... 2016-08-05T01:17:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-05T01:18:12 < Laurenceb__> lu I'm currently getting 2.5% of the theoretical throughput 2016-08-05T01:18:53 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should write custom SP1ML firmware and reflash 2016-08-05T01:20:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T01:21:12 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-0f06e655.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T01:30:16 < Rob235> do you risk damaging anything/everything if you don't have your lipo connected and the leds are drawing power from usb 2016-08-05T01:34:02 < Rob235> alright so instead of working on the only bug I have, I added a stupid feature that is never going to be used 2016-08-05T01:34:52 < jadew> are you making an opensource project? 2016-08-05T01:35:57 < Rob235> probably, haven't really decided yet 2016-08-05T01:36:55 < jadew> sounds a lot like opensource 2016-08-05T01:37:10 < Rob235> how so 2016-08-05T01:37:42 < jadew> unattended bugs and features you don't need 2016-08-05T01:38:24 < Steffanx> lol. 2016-08-05T01:38:32 < Rob235> haha 2016-08-05T01:39:42 < Rob235> the added feature was already half implemented so I had to decide to delete it or finish it, and this bug will be squashed very soon 2016-08-05T01:41:09 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-08-05T01:41:17 < Rob235> its all related, its all part of my animation update function that I'm considering half re-writing to clean it up 2016-08-05T01:41:26 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T01:41:26 -!- Cyric [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-05T01:41:26 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T01:41:36 < Laurenceb__> telemetry is _not_ fun 2016-08-05T01:41:40 < Laurenceb__> as I am discovering 2016-08-05T01:41:54 < Laurenceb__> and Rob235 likewise :P 2016-08-05T01:41:57 < Rob235> why? I haven't gotten there yet myself 2016-08-05T01:42:49 < Rob235> oh I guess our telemetry would be completely unrelated 2016-08-05T01:43:42 < Rob235> I just need to split the s-port on my receiver to serial rx/tx 2016-08-05T01:43:47 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKSXdfQUtzSDFtUDA/view?usp=sharing bainttings 2016-08-05T01:43:49 < Rob235> then I think it should work fine 2016-08-05T01:44:08 < kakimir> painting sucks 2016-08-05T01:44:21 < Rob235> what is that 2016-08-05T01:45:35 < kakimir> it's kind of feet that you can move an aparatus with forklift 2016-08-05T01:47:23 < Rob235> ahh I see it 2016-08-05T01:47:40 < Rob235> nice color :) 2016-08-05T01:49:50 < kakimir> it has trickery to it.. it changes to half glossy black as it dries 2016-08-05T01:53:35 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ-iBcT3QEg serious solar airplane... he said range would be 1thousand kilometers with battery? 2016-08-05T01:56:47 < Laurenceb__> I dont believe those cells are real 2016-08-05T01:57:37 < kakimir> solar cells? 2016-08-05T01:57:49 < kakimir> you trolling or seruous? 2016-08-05T01:58:00 < Laurenceb__> yeah, look polycrystalline yet they are too bent 2016-08-05T01:58:02 < kakimir> and why? 2016-08-05T01:58:07 < Laurenceb__> looks like laminated printing 2016-08-05T01:59:32 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-0f06e655.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-05T01:59:55 < kakimir> what is practical power rating for solar cell square meter? 2016-08-05T02:00:01 < kakimir> 200watts? 2016-08-05T02:01:19 < Laurenceb__> probably 2016-08-05T02:01:32 < Steffanx> or not. 2016-08-05T02:02:58 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qboBT0m30JY 2016-08-05T02:04:03 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: there is no commercial available bent cells? 2016-08-05T02:04:26 < Laurenceb__> there are amorphous 2016-08-05T02:04:36 < Laurenceb__> also some really thin cells I've seen 2016-08-05T02:04:46 < Laurenceb__> but the cells on that wing dont look right to me 2016-08-05T02:05:49 < kakimir> they maybe figured that it was too hard 2016-08-05T02:06:18 < Sync> why not Laurenceb__? 2016-08-05T02:06:29 < Sync> it is lots of single wafers glued to the wing 2016-08-05T02:06:37 < Laurenceb__> Sync: but they are so bent 2016-08-05T02:06:47 < Laurenceb__> regular cells would crack 2016-08-05T02:07:17 < Laurenceb__> they might have special super thin cut ones that might just flex enough, but it looks a bit stereotypical 2016-08-05T02:07:29 < Laurenceb__> I call PR bullshit and laminated printing 2016-08-05T02:07:32 < Sync> no 2016-08-05T02:07:39 < Sync> solarworld does not fuck around 2016-08-05T02:07:46 < Sync> probably .2mm substrates 2016-08-05T02:08:06 < Laurenceb__> <- unconvinced 2016-08-05T02:08:07 < kakimir> i did this calculation that if DG500 wingtop was covered with cells producing 200w per square meter 2016-08-05T02:08:13 < Laurenceb__> seen so many fake things at trade shows 2016-08-05T02:08:14 < kakimir> it would actually maintain altitude 2016-08-05T02:08:20 < kakimir> with solar power only 2016-08-05T02:08:52 < Laurenceb__> seems unlikely to me 2016-08-05T02:08:58 < Laurenceb__> whats the cruise speed? 2016-08-05T02:10:09 < kakimir> around a bit under 80kmh would be the sweet spot 2016-08-05T02:10:29 < kakimir> it falls something like 0.8-1.0m/s 2016-08-05T02:10:31 < Laurenceb__> and the wing area? 2016-08-05T02:10:44 < kakimir> 16,6smeters 2016-08-05T02:10:51 < Laurenceb__> wow not bad fall rate 2016-08-05T02:10:51 < kakimir> 16.6* 2016-08-05T02:11:13 < Laurenceb__> whats the mass? 2016-08-05T02:11:55 < kakimir> let's say we have only one fatty on board 2016-08-05T02:12:02 < kakimir> 480kg 2016-08-05T02:12:17 < kakimir> plus possible motor and cells 2016-08-05T02:12:23 < Laurenceb__> with 95% efficient drivetrain and 92.5% efficient prop I get 370Kg mas mass for level flight 2016-08-05T02:12:27 < Laurenceb__> so not going to work 2016-08-05T02:12:44 < kakimir> forgot efficiencies... damn 2016-08-05T02:13:15 < Laurenceb__> 16.6*200=3320 2016-08-05T02:13:43 < Steffanx> According to wikipedia 200W is a bit optimistic anyway 2016-08-05T02:13:46 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-05T02:14:01 < Steffanx> And as we all know. wikipedia is always right 2016-08-05T02:14:05 < Laurenceb__> 3320*0.925*0.95=3150 2016-08-05T02:15:15 < Steffanx> My calculator says 2917 and a bit. 2016-08-05T02:15:39 < Laurenceb__> and 402*0.8*9.81=3150 approx 2016-08-05T02:15:44 < Laurenceb__> so ~400kg 2016-08-05T02:15:57 < Laurenceb__> but 92.5% prop efficiency is very hard, and 200w is overestimated 2016-08-05T02:16:10 < Laurenceb__> oops 2016-08-05T02:16:19 < Laurenceb__> yeah so its actually 370 or so after all 2016-08-05T02:16:30 < Steffanx> someone only did 95% and not 92.5% 2016-08-05T02:16:42 < kakimir> marketing beoble would say it totally possible 2016-08-05T02:16:52 < kakimir> it's 2016-08-05T02:17:25 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-05T02:17:33 < Laurenceb__> maybe with a thermal as well 2016-08-05T02:17:56 < kakimir> wouldn't need a lot 2016-08-05T02:19:32 < Sync> well 2016-08-05T02:19:38 < Sync> 250W/m² is possible 2016-08-05T02:21:03 < Sync> altough currently you need seksi cells, but you can get them 2016-08-05T02:21:15 < Sync> the car and the plane use special ones 2016-08-05T02:21:20 < kakimir> ? 2016-08-05T02:21:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T02:21:46 < kakimir> 250W/sm sounds like it is really close to maintain altitude 2016-08-05T02:22:33 < kakimir> there is stabilizers and frame to cover too 2016-08-05T02:23:05 < Steffanx> When is your flight over the entire globe kakimir? 2016-08-05T02:23:32 < Sync> if you go all out with Ge multilayer cells you can get a lot more 2016-08-05T02:23:56 < kakimir> Sync: sounds like serious money 2016-08-05T02:24:07 < kakimir> would change plane to carbon before that 2016-08-05T02:24:13 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad2b8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T02:24:23 < kakimir> probably cheaper gains 2016-08-05T02:25:37 < kakimir> Steffanx: I call you when I crash in canal 2016-08-05T02:26:11 < kakimir> *english canal 2016-08-05T02:26:17 < Sync> yes, multilayer are srs monies 2016-08-05T02:26:27 < Sync> but them efficiencies! 2016-08-05T02:26:35 < Steffanx> When you start with something like that, is money the first issue anyway? 2016-08-05T02:26:50 < Laurenceb__> you could fly over glacial ice 2016-08-05T02:26:54 < Laurenceb__> aquadoc.typepad.com/files/prog_hum_geogr-2016_.pdf 2016-08-05T02:27:17 < kakimir> Sync: did they use such in solar impulse II ? 2016-08-05T02:27:34 < Laurenceb__> but hopefully there would be no human-ice interaction 2016-08-05T02:29:54 < Sync> not sure kakimir, probably not 2016-08-05T02:30:39 < Laurenceb__> solar impulse II cheated by flying really slowly 2016-08-05T02:31:18 < kakimir> why create plane that is pain and suffering to fly 2016-08-05T02:31:27 < Laurenceb__> useful 24 hour flight at altitude seems to be beyond the capabilities of lithium cells 2016-08-05T02:31:36 < kakimir> when you can create plane that goes 270kmh if needed 2016-08-05T02:31:39 < Laurenceb__> zephyr used lithium sulphur 2016-08-05T02:31:58 < Sync> http://www.spectrolab.com/pv/support/Direct_Semiconductor_Bonded_5J_Cells_for_Space_Terrestrial_Applications.pdf 2016-08-05T02:32:00 < kakimir> and cruise 80-100 2016-08-05T02:32:03 < Sync> those are the cells you want 2016-08-05T02:32:05 < Laurenceb__> but nobody has been able to make those cells last more than a few tens of cycles 2016-08-05T02:32:47 < Laurenceb__> Sync: the cells are more of a problem if you use a dedicated airframe 2016-08-05T02:32:58 < Laurenceb__> especially if its for high altitude (>60k feet) 2016-08-05T02:33:11 < Sync> the cells are always a problem 2016-08-05T02:33:18 < Laurenceb__> this is why the facebook drone thing wont be going anywhere unless someone cracks higher energy cells 2016-08-05T02:33:21 < Sync> those are seriously efficient 2016-08-05T02:33:32 < Laurenceb__> I mean batteries not solar cells 2016-08-05T02:33:38 < kakimir> rather have those cells to somewhat perform the age of airframe 2016-08-05T02:33:40 < Laurenceb__> battery cells 2016-08-05T02:33:59 < Laurenceb__> the panels are trivial in comparison 2016-08-05T02:35:42 < kakimir> no need for batterias 2016-08-05T02:36:08 < kakimir> *special 2016-08-05T02:36:34 < Mr_Sheesh> Uhm crt - You may want to change your password now... 2016-08-05T02:36:35 < kakimir> jut some in case ltium pack that delivers maximum powers 2016-08-05T02:37:01 < Steffanx> crt is trolling as usual. 2016-08-05T02:37:58 < Steffanx> i was right. 2016-08-05T02:38:08 < Steffanx> Im not mr L. 2016-08-05T02:38:33 < Steffanx> nor mr D 2016-08-05T02:39:14 < Steffanx> rap. 2016-08-05T02:48:34 < Steffanx> Sleep well crt. 2016-08-05T03:02:18 < kakimir> not yet 2016-08-05T03:03:59 < kakimir> electronics are like winter projects for me 2016-08-05T03:05:44 < kakimir> I'm not a multitasker really 2016-08-05T03:08:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T03:09:21 < kakimir> I think I could look at the led project soon as it gets darker really really quickly now 2016-08-05T03:09:39 < Laurenceb__> footjob2016: mexico will pay for the lube 2016-08-05T03:09:45 < kakimir> it becomes relevant before I have noticed 2016-08-05T03:12:18 < Laurenceb__> soon you will be experiencing human-ice interaction 2016-08-05T03:12:26 < Laurenceb__> ice will no longer just be ice 2016-08-05T03:14:58 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-05T03:15:15 < Rob235> ahh fixed my LED bug 2016-08-05T03:15:24 < Rob235> that was stupid 2016-08-05T03:21:40 < Laurenceb__> oh shit HAARP 2016-08-05T03:21:51 < Laurenceb__> it activated the fucking chemitrails man 2016-08-05T03:22:10 < Laurenceb__> and emdrive got powered up by my cold fusion machine 2016-08-05T03:23:40 < Laurenceb__> holy shit 2016-08-05T03:23:41 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program#Conspiracy_theories 2016-08-05T03:23:47 < Laurenceb__> full poe 2016-08-05T03:25:03 < Rob235> -Wextra and -Werror enabled, no errors, and aside from my led animation library not being 100% complete for all animation effects, I think everything is done 2016-08-05T03:25:43 < Laurenceb__> now you can watch pron with it 2016-08-05T03:26:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T03:27:48 < kakimir> I have not seen chemtrailing for.. 2 years 2016-08-05T03:28:12 < kakimir> they fukken filled the sky 2016-08-05T03:29:12 < kakimir> first there was this grid thing and it started to disperse to create total cover of this "cloud" 2016-08-05T03:30:03 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-05T03:30:21 < kakimir> there is not that much aviation traffic here to produce such pattern naturally 2016-08-05T03:31:15 < kakimir> there was no visible end to that grid it just kept comming as wind moved it along 2016-08-05T03:37:08 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T03:37:37 < Laurenceb__> cool story bro 2016-08-05T03:39:29 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltg4tQoYh0g or maybe it was just route planes and good weather to contrail 2016-08-05T03:40:11 < Rob235> man what to do when everythings working? :) 2016-08-05T03:41:02 < kakimir> innovate 2016-08-05T03:41:43 < kakimir> wander a bit 2016-08-05T03:41:48 < Rob235> i'm just kidding. I have a ton of things to still do 2016-08-05T03:41:56 < Rob235> just not necessary stuff 2016-08-05T03:41:58 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-05T03:45:05 < kakimir> nothing to do = kiddingss 2016-08-05T03:45:28 < kakimir> sleep it's too late already> 2016-08-05T03:48:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T03:56:13 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T03:56:51 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-08-05T04:06:25 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-05T04:32:53 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA this is my clam jam 2016-08-05T05:02:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T05:17:08 < ReadError> its the Hillary song 2016-08-05T05:17:22 < ReadError> trump doesnt have a music video 2016-08-05T05:18:39 < ReadError> yea in america we just vote for whoever has the coolest youtube vid 2016-08-05T05:18:43 < ReadError> and upvotes 2016-08-05T05:58:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T06:13:16 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vasnscwbwdvngduw] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T06:15:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T06:18:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T07:37:23 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJwn1C1caAo 2016-08-05T07:47:54 < LeelooMinai> lol... 2016-08-05T07:48:33 < LeelooMinai> After this happens the guy says "Fuck, I punctured your hand"... 2016-08-05T07:48:45 < LeelooMinai> "o, really?" :p 2016-08-05T07:51:31 < ReadError> i want to see how this was supposed to work 2016-08-05T07:52:37 < jpa-> that's a great chance to get one hardcore piercing 2016-08-05T08:21:22 < ReadError> https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKv7xq9Be7y2wq4/giphy.gif 2016-08-05T08:21:31 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-05T08:24:50 < Rob235> I hope my props take their time getting here... I just found a bug in my PID loop. wouldn't have affected much if anything but it's good to keep going through everything :) 2016-08-05T08:31:26 -!- anton02 [~quassel@110.143.102.25] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T08:41:02 < brianx> i have a bit of a newb question. i want to make a rattle/noise locater for car repairs. i'm thinking three Electret microphones, each connected to an opamp so they generate a square wave. 2016-08-05T08:41:04 < brianx> designate one as "master" where i keep a good fraction of a seconds worth of pulses, then when the others detect noise, grab a handful of transitions and search the master sequence to find a match. the time offset hopefully tells me how far the noise is from each. 2016-08-05T08:41:06 < brianx> is this realistic? 2016-08-05T08:43:36 < jpa-> you could just cross-correlate the analog signals to get direction 2016-08-05T08:43:55 < jpa-> (assuming you have fast enough CPU; can be sped up with FFT) 2016-08-05T08:44:16 < jpa-> not sure how much accuracy/sensitivity you would lose by digitizing to 1 bit first 2016-08-05T08:44:44 < brianx> i was just thinking staying digital to avoid having to run a fast ADC. 2016-08-05T08:45:08 < jpa-> you don't need that fast ADC, 200kHz or something should be enough 2016-08-05T08:45:10 < brianx> low sensitivity is part of the point, cars are noisy places. 2016-08-05T08:45:28 < jpa-> low sensitivity as in poor signal-to-noise ratio 2016-08-05T08:45:37 < jpa-> but usually for car repairs, i think people use a microphone that they directly touch against metal parts 2016-08-05T08:45:50 < brianx> hmm, 200khz x 3 is within the 1mhz sample rate of the stm32 2016-08-05T08:46:08 < jpa-> stm32f4 has 3x2.4MSps or something 2016-08-05T08:46:38 < brianx> i've got a few F0s left over from another project. 2016-08-05T08:46:53 < brianx> single adc with mux. 2016-08-05T08:47:17 < jpa-> i doubt that is fast enough to do full cross-correlation 2016-08-05T08:48:15 < brianx> so faster and analog. 2016-08-05T08:48:34 < jpa-> that's the traditional way atleast 2016-08-05T08:48:57 < jpa-> hard to say what performance some custom algorithm would give 2016-08-05T08:49:51 < brianx> most noises occur over and over, so it only has to succeed in matching occasionally. 2016-08-05T08:50:40 < jpa-> you need to look at it more from the signal-to-noise point of view; there will also be false matches 2016-08-05T08:50:48 < jpa-> and at some level the results become useless 2016-08-05T08:51:42 < brianx> yeah. i'd have to graph the results and where the most dots appeared would be the most likely position. 2016-08-05T08:52:56 < jpa-> if you'll use a laptop to graph it anyway, why even use stm32 instead of just using some multi-channel USB ADC? 2016-08-05T08:53:29 < brianx> hmm. not sure. 2016-08-05T08:56:27 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad2b8.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T09:01:11 < brianx> price seems to be the reason. a quick search turned up mostly $200 range with the cheapest being around $70. 2016-08-05T09:03:15 < jpa-> ok 2016-08-05T09:03:32 < jpa-> usb audio cards are cheap but they usually just have 2 channels 2016-08-05T09:04:00 < brianx> they are but also don't give even close to 200ksps. 2016-08-05T09:04:35 < brianx> this could be done with 2 samples, i'd just have to move the microphones. 2016-08-05T09:04:35 < jpa-> have you actually calculated what you need to get the desired positional accuracy? it also depends on your placement of the microphones 2016-08-05T09:05:03 < jpa-> you could also have 4 mics and 2 audio cards, even if the 2 cards aren't synchronized it should work somewhat 2016-08-05T09:05:11 < brianx> nope. haven't gotten that far yet. was looking for some advice on feasibility first. 2016-08-05T09:13:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T09:20:52 < qyx> 192ksps audio should be enough 2016-08-05T09:21:45 < qyx> if you can correlate with 1 sample precision, it would give you 1.7mm accuracy 2016-08-05T09:21:45 < brianx> do cheap usb audio cards go that high? i was thinking they would go to around 44k 2016-08-05T09:22:08 < brianx> 1.7mm i way more accurate than needed. an inch or three would be fine. 2016-08-05T09:22:28 < qyx> something will be lost with triangulation, but probably even 44.1ksps would be fine 2016-08-05T09:23:34 < brianx> cool. so this can be done with a laptop and a pair of cheap usb sound cards. :-) 2016-08-05T09:24:02 < qyx> but meh, the sound wavelength would be more like ~0.5m 2016-08-05T09:24:26 < brianx> still gotta figure a lot out but this avoids even messing around with any hardware more complex than plugging in a usb cable. 2016-08-05T09:25:44 < jpa-> you get the highest accuracy when the two mics are on different sides of the area you want to monitor; lowest when they are next to each other 2016-08-05T09:26:16 < ReadError> doesnt ST have a board for this 2016-08-05T09:26:17 < brianx> yeah, i had assumed i might have to move them around to get the best results. 2016-08-05T09:26:20 < ReadError> w/ dual mics 2016-08-05T09:27:21 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T09:27:28 < jpa-> on even lower-end laptop you can just throw FFTW at it and it'll be fast enough, to get it running on stm32 will require some optimizing and thought 2016-08-05T09:33:19 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T09:38:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-05T09:42:28 < brianx> thanks for the hints on direction. more research to be done... 2016-08-05T09:42:34 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T09:52:46 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad2b8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T10:00:56 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28syc114k3avko3.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T10:10:37 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T10:26:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::5763] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T10:27:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T10:35:08 < Jak_o_Shadows> hi 2016-08-05T10:38:07 * jpa- turns off the light 2016-08-05T10:39:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T10:46:24 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@2a00:5881:4008:508:a11a:1301:4:123] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-05T10:48:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.52] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T10:49:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T10:50:36 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-05T10:50:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T10:56:22 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@163.152.3.52] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-05T11:00:41 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@7.220.24.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T11:10:22 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!] 2016-08-05T11:16:16 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T11:16:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T11:24:40 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T11:25:32 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@175.223.16.191] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T11:27:27 -!- bradfirj is now known as bradfier 2016-08-05T11:30:36 -!- bradfier is now known as bradfirj 2016-08-05T11:34:01 -!- bradfirj is now known as bradfier 2016-08-05T11:34:49 -!- bradfier is now known as bradfirj 2016-08-05T11:35:35 -!- bradfirj is now known as bradfier 2016-08-05T11:36:21 -!- bradfier is now known as bradfirj 2016-08-05T11:36:34 -!- bradfirj is now known as bradfier 2016-08-05T11:36:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T11:38:08 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T11:56:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T11:57:05 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28syc114k3avko3.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T12:08:39 -!- ds2 [~ds2@rehut.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T12:18:18 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vegkxxtdatb6v.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T12:21:33 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T12:23:43 < Tectu> people, I have returned o/ 2016-08-05T12:25:24 < Tectu> good day to you, Mr. Victoria 2016-08-05T12:25:29 * mitrax burps 2016-08-05T12:25:36 < Tectu> how are your feelings today? any butthurtness going on? 2016-08-05T12:25:42 < mitrax> hi there 2016-08-05T12:25:46 < Tectu> yo mitrax o/ 2016-08-05T12:26:02 < mitrax> yo! 2016-08-05T12:28:39 < ReadError> https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7TKv7xq9Be7y2wq4/giphy.gif 2016-08-05T12:29:13 < ReadError> guy ask, is that michelle obama 2016-08-05T12:29:18 < ReadError> racist 2016-08-05T12:30:35 < ReadError> whats new in the high end escort world Tectu 2016-08-05T12:31:19 < Tectu> ReadError, not sure, only had sex with ex girlfriend recently 2016-08-05T12:31:24 < mitrax> crt: uncle bob bit his foot off :( 2016-08-05T12:33:29 < ReadError> Tectu yea so 2016-08-05T12:33:31 < ReadError> whats new in the high end escort world Tectu 2016-08-05T12:33:40 < Tectu> lol :D 2016-08-05T12:33:51 < Tectu> well played Sir, well played... 2016-08-05T12:36:15 < mitrax> mr D? 2016-08-05T12:36:59 -!- Katz [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T12:37:04 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T12:38:43 < ReadError> crt where is senpai ? 2016-08-05T12:39:39 < Tectu> is Steffanx up yet or still jerking in his bed? 2016-08-05T12:39:51 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-05T12:41:00 < Tectu> LTDC 2016-08-05T12:42:17 < Tectu> that's why you are old and why your love life is so desperate 2016-08-05T12:42:32 < c10ud^> yo 2016-08-05T12:42:43 < c10ud^> cheapest bt module ? 2016-08-05T12:42:52 < c10ud^> except from dyi 2016-08-05T12:43:00 < c10ud^> i just need it as a serial port 2016-08-05T12:43:06 < c10ud^> not fancy stuff 2016-08-05T12:47:03 < Tectu> crt :* 2016-08-05T12:50:30 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T12:52:04 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T13:03:29 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-05T13:05:42 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@175.223.16.191] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-05T13:10:36 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@175.223.16.191] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T13:14:47 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T13:21:36 -!- anton02 [~quassel@110.143.102.25] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-05T13:27:22 < Ecco> Hi 2016-08-05T13:27:51 < Ecco> I've been reading the datasheet and can't figure out what's the difference betwwen General-purpose timers and advanced-control ones 2016-08-05T13:28:58 < Ecco> yeah sorry 2016-08-05T13:29:00 < Ecco> I meant ref man 2016-08-05T13:30:07 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T13:30:33 < jpa-> Ecco: advanced control has more features, like complementary timer outputs 2016-08-05T13:31:07 < jpa-> in this case, the datasheet actually gives better overview of the difference 2016-08-05T13:31:10 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T13:31:19 < jpa-> especially "Table 4. Timer feature comparison" 2016-08-05T13:33:25 < Ecco> oh ok 2016-08-05T13:33:52 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-08-05T13:33:53 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-08-05T13:34:49 < Ecco> I've always wondered what was the point of having two documents for the same part 2016-08-05T13:35:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-05T13:36:21 < jpa-> i think the primary reason is just that "it's long enough already so we need to divide it" 2016-08-05T13:38:56 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@175.223.16.191] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-05T13:45:06 < zyp> the datasheets are usually technical specs for specific parts, while the reference manuals cover a whole family from the software perspective 2016-08-05T13:48:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T14:11:24 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T14:18:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T14:27:52 < Laurenceb> sup trolls 2016-08-05T14:28:01 < Laurenceb> SP1ML tiem 2016-08-05T14:28:26 < Laurenceb> no progress, as fail as ever 2016-08-05T14:28:40 < Laurenceb> about to try last idea before giving up/ writing custom firmware 2016-08-05T14:30:04 < ReadError> I wish I could relate but I dont know what failure feels like 2016-08-05T14:30:37 < Laurenceb> cool story bro 2016-08-05T14:30:39 < Laurenceb> so cash 2016-08-05T14:31:09 < ReadError> very gucci 2016-08-05T14:31:49 < Laurenceb> moment of truth coming up 2016-08-05T14:31:53 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-05T14:33:07 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T14:34:15 < Laurenceb> hmmm 2016-08-05T14:34:20 < Laurenceb> maybe not 100% fail 2016-08-05T14:34:23 < Laurenceb> but close 2016-08-05T14:35:27 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/varm7K.png 2016-08-05T14:35:55 < Laurenceb> 7== request packets to device, 6== data packets returned 2016-08-05T14:36:14 < Laurenceb> its still only managing to get a tiny percentage of the theoretical througput 2016-08-05T14:39:03 < ReadError> crt what do you think about gucci's comeback after prison https://soundcloud.com/guccimaneofficial/gucci-mane-multi-millionaire-laflare-prod-by-southside 2016-08-05T14:44:15 < Laurenceb> wow this is shit 2016-08-05T14:44:39 < Laurenceb> I can see the missing data, packets obviously screwed up 2016-08-05T14:45:06 < Laurenceb> should have used silabs and made everything custom 2016-08-05T14:45:29 < Laurenceb> si446x is as buggy as hell but at least it can be forced to work 2016-08-05T14:47:16 < Laurenceb> SP1ML is broken at less than 20% of the theoretical throughput 2016-08-05T14:51:34 < Sync> should have use bleh 2016-08-05T14:53:22 < Laurenceb> eww bluetooth 2016-08-05T14:53:29 < Laurenceb> I need long range 2016-08-05T14:53:38 < Laurenceb> time to check ST forumz 2016-08-05T14:55:09 < Sync> or use mototrbo or tetra 2016-08-05T14:55:20 < Laurenceb> interesting idea 2016-08-05T14:55:33 -!- 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2016-08-05T15:05:57 < qyx> no-collision detect, multiple access 2016-08-05T15:06:20 < Laurenceb> so it transmits at ~100% duty cycle for about 100ms, then there is a large pause for the other side to send packets 2016-08-05T15:06:40 < qyx> I had an anarchy++ MAC 2016-08-05T15:06:46 < qyx> send anything whenever you want 2016-08-05T15:10:07 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-05T15:16:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.126] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T15:18:19 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T15:39:26 < ReadError> puck off sir 2016-08-05T15:49:54 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T16:11:30 < Laurenceb> muh SP1ML is moar fail than chris chan 2016-08-05T16:12:55 < Ecco> Hmm 2016-08-05T16:13:07 < Ecco> I'm trying to PWM an led using a timer 2016-08-05T16:13:13 < Ecco> doesn't seem to be working :-/ 2016-08-05T16:15:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T16:17:35 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T16:18:33 < qyx> Laurenceb: sp1ml as a sp1ml, or that spirit1 transceiver inside? 2016-08-05T16:18:53 < Tectu> Ecco, using your new scope, do you see the PWM on the pin? 2016-08-05T16:19:11 < Laurenceb> SP1ML - spirit1+stm32l 2016-08-05T16:19:28 < qyx> I know, but wheres the fail 2016-08-05T16:19:36 < qyx> in the firmware or in the trnaceiver itslef? 2016-08-05T16:22:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-05T16:23:41 < Laurenceb> almost certainly in the transceiver 2016-08-05T16:23:48 < Laurenceb> *I mean firmware 2016-08-05T16:24:00 < Laurenceb> not the transceiver, seems to be buffer related 2016-08-05T16:24:05 < Ecco> Tectu: Good suggestion, will try that 2016-08-05T16:24:06 < Ecco> thanks 2016-08-05T16:24:17 < Laurenceb> I'm trying some simple one directional test code now with pyserial 2016-08-05T16:25:30 < Laurenceb> doesnt make much sense, wish I could get detailed timing out of more places 2016-08-05T16:26:00 < Laurenceb> I'm wondering if it doesnt transmit whilst its receiving data over usart 2016-08-05T16:27:19 < Ecco> Well driving the GPIOs manually does blink the LEDs 2016-08-05T16:33:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T16:37:41 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-05T16:40:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T16:41:14 < Laurenceb> looks pretty weird 2016-08-05T16:41:52 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@175.223.16.191] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T16:41:58 < Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/10930854 2016-08-05T16:42:08 < Laurenceb> packets start with \n 2016-08-05T16:42:22 < Laurenceb> its like its dropping bytes, suggesting usart buffering issues 2016-08-05T16:42:27 < Tectu> ILI9341 on a 10 MHz SPI on a 72 MHz Cortex-M3 is no fun 2016-08-05T16:42:31 < Tectu> just sayin ~ 2016-08-05T16:43:01 < Laurenceb> more fun than the SP1ML 2016-08-05T16:43:33 < Tectu> what is that? sounds like an STD 2016-08-05T16:46:10 < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/wireless-connectivity/sub-1ghz-rf/sp1ml.html 2016-08-05T16:46:26 < Ecco> Tectu: out of curiosity, why? 2016-08-05T16:46:33 < Ecco> Doesn't seem like such a bad setup 2016-08-05T16:47:42 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T16:48:12 < Tectu> because you'd be faster taking a sharpy and writing the content on the display 2016-08-05T16:48:20 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-05T16:48:29 < Tectu> why do people keep using this crap 2016-08-05T16:48:53 < Tectu> I see no reason why to use any of the ILI controllers unless cheaparsery is a factor 2016-08-05T16:49:06 < Ecco> Are those specifically bad? 2016-08-05T16:49:12 < Ecco> All the others I've seen seemed equally bad 2016-08-05T16:49:18 < Ecco> and well, you sure can use a GTX1080 2016-08-05T16:49:24 < Ecco> but it's not gonna be the same price :-D 2016-08-05T16:49:33 < Tectu> what does a GPU have to do with a display controller? 2016-08-05T16:49:47 < Tectu> if you want to scale up then the display controller is inside your computer monitor, not your GPU 2016-08-05T16:50:23 < Sync> Tectu: connect the lvds straight to the gfx card 2016-08-05T16:50:25 < Tectu> first of all, the company behind them sucks arse. secondly, the controllers don't offer even the most basic features like area filling or windowing mode that even my grandmother could implement and she doesn't know any VHDL 2016-08-05T16:50:26 < Ecco> well, that's true 2016-08-05T16:51:06 < Tectu> something as basic as area filling support on the display controller gives you a HUGE performance boost, if your graphics/GUI library uses it which is almost always the case because it's fucking easy 2016-08-05T16:51:13 < Ecco> sure 2016-08-05T16:51:13 < Tectu> sorry for rage mode 2016-08-05T16:51:26 < Laurenceb> welcome to the club 2016-08-05T16:51:38 < Ecco> you can even use it to draw horizontal/vertical lines 2016-08-05T16:51:50 < Tectu> thank you ecco :p 2016-08-05T16:51:55 < Ecco> :) 2016-08-05T16:52:00 < Sync> wow 2016-08-05T16:52:05 < Sync> that is so helpful :D 2016-08-05T16:52:10 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-05T16:52:14 < Sync> when you are on a limited bandwidth connection 2016-08-05T16:52:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-05T16:52:41 < Laurenceb> yup got one of those 2016-08-05T16:52:48 < Ecco> Tectu, what makes ILI such a bad company BTW? 2016-08-05T16:53:12 < Tectu> Ecco, I'm not sure how much I am allowed/supposed to tell. but each time I have to deal with them (which is sadly more than just twice) is a real pain in the butt 2016-08-05T16:53:29 < Tectu> and before I get cancer from just talking about it I'll shut up and go kill some sheep 2016-08-05T16:53:33 < Tectu> cu later o/ 2016-08-05T16:53:42 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-05T16:53:44 < Ecco> ok :) 2016-08-05T16:53:49 < Tectu> and seriously, sorry for rage mode :D 2016-08-05T16:53:57 < Tectu> just tell the world to stop using ILI display controllers 2016-08-05T16:53:58 < Ecco> That was actually informative, so don't worry 2016-08-05T16:54:05 < Ecco> What alternative do you recommend? 2016-08-05T16:54:27 < Ecco> (in the same price range) 2016-08-05T16:54:44 < Tectu> check out solutions by solomon systech, they are very comparable in the price range from what I know 2016-08-05T16:55:11 < Tectu> if you want to go fancy pants and can afford a few cents more, something like RA8875 is awesome. it even does hardware accelerated drawing of arbitrary lines, triangles, circles, ... 2016-08-05T16:55:25 < Tectu> but no idea how much more that thing costs in production volumes 2016-08-05T16:55:26 < Sync> can't you use the stm32 accelerated shits? :D 2016-08-05T16:55:38 < Tectu> troll :D 2016-08-05T16:56:59 < Sync> never 2016-08-05T16:57:53 < Sync> Tectu: come over to the hackover global conference to be up to date with industry 5.0 2016-08-05T16:59:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-05T16:59:15 < Tectu> Sync, wut, are we past 4.0 yet? 2016-08-05T16:59:41 < Tectu> Sync, also, where & when? 2016-08-05T17:01:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-05T17:02:15 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@175.223.16.191] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-05T17:02:35 < Sync> https://hackover.de/ 2016-08-05T17:02:49 < Tectu> Hannover 2016-08-05T17:02:57 < Tectu> couldn't you find a place in germany further away from switzerland? 2016-08-05T17:03:10 < Sync> c3 is even further 2016-08-05T17:03:48 < Sync> protip: HAJ -> ZRH is a direct flight 2016-08-05T17:04:28 < Tectu> time to check dates and stuff 2016-08-05T17:04:45 < Laurenceb> what the fuck 2016-08-05T17:05:02 < Laurenceb> no wonder SP1ML is fail, they enable auto ACK on Tx but not Rx 2016-08-05T17:05:12 * Laurenceb just dumped the spirit1 registers 2016-08-05T17:05:32 < Laurenceb> this is why it transmits like shit 2016-08-05T17:05:50 < Tectu> have you ever considered that it just doesn't like you? 2016-08-05T17:05:57 < Tectu> Sync, seams feasible 2016-08-05T17:06:02 < Laurenceb> register set doesnt lie 2016-08-05T17:06:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-05T17:06:14 < Laurenceb> some truly epic config fails 2016-08-05T17:06:15 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-05T17:06:39 < Sync> noice Tectu 2016-08-05T17:07:54 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-05T17:07:54 < Ecco> I'm failing to understand how you configure PWM output on a timer 2016-08-05T17:08:18 < Ecco> my understanding is that the counter is just an ever-incrementing counter 2016-08-05T17:08:22 < Tectu> Ecco, is this CubeHAL? 2016-08-05T17:08:35 < Ecco> Tectu: nope, this is without using any external library 2016-08-05T17:08:40 < Ecco> just writing to the proper adresses 2016-08-05T17:08:56 < Ecco> what I fail to understand is how you get the counter to drive an output pin 2016-08-05T17:08:58 < Tectu> are you bored again? 2016-08-05T17:09:37 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T17:10:44 < Tectu> Ecco, I don't know it out of my mind anymore, sorry. It has been years since I did this myself. These days I just use one of the trizillion HALs available. But it's something like this: You have 16 output channels, you can map them to any port you want (note PORT, not pin). The pins are fix, you have channels 0 to 15 and you can map channel 12 to PB12 or PG12 or PA12, but not to PG8 or something. And then there's some 2016-08-05T17:10:44 < Tectu> setting in one of the trillion registers that tells the peripheral to output the signal on that channel if you're in PWM mode. 2016-08-05T17:10:54 < Tectu> but I might be wrong, you'll now once people start yelling at me 2016-08-05T17:11:02 < Tectu> cumpilation? 2016-08-05T17:11:06 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-05T17:11:15 < Ecco> ok, makes sense 2016-08-05T17:11:27 < Tectu> yeah also that ^ 2016-08-05T17:11:36 < Tectu> and don't forget to enable the peripheral clock on the GPIO block that you use 2016-08-05T17:12:28 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-08-05T17:12:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T17:12:35 < Ecco> ok, I'll double-check everything 2016-08-05T17:30:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T17:37:42 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-05T17:40:11 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T17:52:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T17:52:47 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T17:53:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T17:57:20 < zyp> Sync, so what's this hackover thing? 2016-08-05T17:57:58 < zyp> hannover is not that far, could drive down there in a day 2016-08-05T17:58:05 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:01:08 < Rob235> Last Location: Chek Lap Kok, Hong Kong.... I checked, it's still there 2016-08-05T18:04:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:07:46 < Laurenceb> lul think I know whats happening with SP1ML 2016-08-05T18:08:15 < Laurenceb> someone is operating kit on 868mhz that goes over my squelch level erraticly at a few hz 2016-08-05T18:08:56 < Laurenceb> st failed epically with their firmware, normally after each tx the transmitting side is trying to resend and get an ACK packet for almost 1 second 2016-08-05T18:09:08 < Laurenceb> as they configured ACK at tx but not rx 2016-08-05T18:09:30 < Laurenceb> but the noise causes a failed ack that causes the tx to abort earlier for some reason 2016-08-05T18:09:39 < Laurenceb> so I get very weird erratic performance 2016-08-05T18:10:03 < Laurenceb> luckily I can do raw register hacks with the AT command set, so it should be fixable 2016-08-05T18:10:04 < Tectu> crt, "spill the beans"? is that some australian saying or are you just nuts? 2016-08-05T18:10:15 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-08-05T18:10:42 -!- bobryan [~h36sa@freebsd/contributor/bobryan] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-05T18:10:49 < Rob235> you've never heard spill the beans? 2016-08-05T18:10:59 < Rob235> in the US too 2016-08-05T18:11:30 -!- bobryan [~h36sa@freebsd/contributor/bobryan] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:11:38 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-05T18:11:49 < Tectu> no, sadly I live in a sane country 2016-08-05T18:12:04 < Tectu> just kidding, of course 2016-08-05T18:12:12 < Tectu> people here are nuts, but in a retarded way 2016-08-05T18:12:16 < Rob235> haha, I guess it is a weird saying, I never think about those because they are so ingrained 2016-08-05T18:12:33 < Tectu> so what does it mean? something like "just say it"? 2016-08-05T18:13:21 < Rob235> basically, I think it's more for like secrets though? 2016-08-05T18:13:25 < Rob235> like gossip 2016-08-05T18:13:42 < Tectu> is spilling beans a quiet action then? 2016-08-05T18:13:46 < Tectu> non-noisy 2016-08-05T18:14:15 < Rob235> I guess it's more like "let it out" 2016-08-05T18:14:32 < Tectu> isn't "shoot me" another similar expression? 2016-08-05T18:14:44 < Tectu> like "can I ask you sumthin'?" ---> "shoot me" 2016-08-05T18:14:52 < Tectu> or hit me? but that's for drinks in a bar, right? 2016-08-05T18:15:08 < Rob235> hit me is for black jack haha 2016-08-05T18:15:10 < Rob235> and its just shoot, not shoot me 2016-08-05T18:15:22 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:15:27 < Tectu> I see 2016-08-05T18:15:33 < Tectu> well I'm gonna hit the shower, cu o/ 2016-08-05T18:15:38 < Rob235> heh 2016-08-05T18:17:56 < Laurenceb> >shower > irc user 2016-08-05T18:17:59 < Laurenceb> pick one 2016-08-05T18:18:50 < Laurenceb> https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Screen-Shot-2016-08-04-at-12.18.02-PM-624x700.png 2016-08-05T18:20:05 < ReadError> did you figure out what a pumper is? 2016-08-05T18:22:58 < Rob235> hmm, I don't know if I like how I'm doing PID for yaw, how is it supposed to be done? :P 2016-08-05T18:24:47 < jpa-> heh, wife went biking with my ebike; after first roundtrip she came back with a huge grin on her face to say "i'll go bike another round".. dunno when i'll see her next time :P 2016-08-05T18:25:54 < ReadError> [11:25:34] dongs signed on at June 15, 2016 at 7:08:01 PM EDT and has been idle for 2 days, 4 hours, 5 minutes, 57 seconds 2016-08-05T18:25:57 < ReadError> i think he ded 2016-08-05T18:26:35 < ReadError> something to do with pokeurmoms 2016-08-05T18:26:42 < Rob235> I have a define of max yaw rate which is set to 20 or something, then I determine the rudder joystick position and convert it to range -1 to 1 and multiply it by the max yaw rate and set the angle error to that multiplied value 2016-08-05T18:26:54 < Rob235> I think he killed ohsix and went into hiding 2016-08-05T18:27:12 < Rob235> I havent seen him in a long time 2016-08-05T18:27:12 < Laurenceb> last time major poster guy on #highaltitude went idle he was literally dead at pc 2016-08-05T18:28:20 < Laurenceb> not as funny as the PhD thesis on wingsuit base jumping that stops abruptly in the final chapter 2016-08-05T18:28:31 < ReadError> i talked to ohsix last night 2016-08-05T18:28:39 < Rob235> oh ok 2016-08-05T18:29:28 < zyp> jpa-, ebikes tend to do that 2016-08-05T18:29:46 < Rob235> what's an ebike? helps pedal on hills or something? 2016-08-05T18:29:59 < zyp> just helps in general 2016-08-05T18:30:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.76] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-05T18:30:08 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-05T18:30:46 < Rob235> do you have to plug it in or does your own pedaling charge it? 2016-08-05T18:30:56 < zyp> you plug it in at home 2016-08-05T18:31:01 < Rob235> ok 2016-08-05T18:32:02 < zyp> I bought a kit for my bike last year 2016-08-05T18:33:08 < Rob235> we need a breakthrough in battery tech... 2016-08-05T18:33:15 < zyp> bike had been sitting for four years because I was too lazy to use it, then I put the kit on it and biked like 800km before the end of the year 2016-08-05T18:33:41 < Ecco> I got myself an escoot 2016-08-05T18:33:50 < Ecco> kinda the same thing, except it's a scooter 2016-08-05T18:33:53 < Ecco> it's really nice 2016-08-05T18:34:07 < ReadError> Tectu knows a lot about escoots 2016-08-05T18:34:13 < zyp> then I bought a new car, and then that suddenly became more fun, so now one of my pals is borrowing my bike :p 2016-08-05T18:34:18 < ReadError> no wait, thats escorts 2016-08-05T18:34:27 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-05T18:35:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:37:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-05T18:38:26 < Tectu> it's almost the same thing ReadError. After all you step on both of them 2016-08-05T18:38:30 < Tectu> also, re from shower 2016-08-05T18:38:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::5763] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-05T18:39:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::5763] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:40:46 < englishman> escoots cost per mile, escorts cost per inch 2016-08-05T18:43:06 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-05T18:43:29 < Tectu> fun fact: escorts costs depend on the mile-age of the model that you acquire 2016-08-05T18:45:00 < Ecco> Hmm 2016-08-05T18:45:08 < Ecco> Still can't get that PWM output :( 2016-08-05T18:45:24 < Ecco> TIM1 is running (if I inspect the TIM_CNT register I see it moving) 2016-08-05T18:45:34 < Ecco> but there's no output at all 2016-08-05T18:47:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:48:01 < brianx> Escorts are fixed or repaired daily. 2016-08-05T18:48:32 < Ecco> I'd rather said they're destroyed daily 2016-08-05T18:48:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T18:50:00 < Tectu> at least unlike with weed it's legal to grow new ones 2016-08-05T18:51:12 < zyp> it's not legal to use the homegrown ones though 2016-08-05T18:51:34 < Tectu> is incest illegal in norway? 2016-08-05T18:51:44 < zyp> pretty sure it is 2016-08-05T18:51:55 < Tectu> I wonder if it's illegal here too 2016-08-05T18:52:01 < Tectu> after all sodomi is not illegal 2016-08-05T18:52:12 < Tectu> you are just not allowed to video-tape it or actually hurt the animal 2016-08-05T18:52:19 < Tectu> not that I'd know any of that 2016-08-05T18:52:22 < englishman> haha 2016-08-05T18:52:32 < zyp> http://lovdata.no/lov/2005-05-20-28/§312 <- here you go 2016-08-05T18:53:05 < Tectu> now check the swiss law please 2016-08-05T18:53:15 < Tectu> lovedata.no lol 2016-08-05T18:53:19 < brianx> That's beastiality. Sodomy is anal sex. 2016-08-05T18:54:14 < zyp> so, six years for fucking your daughter, one year for fucking your sister 2016-08-05T18:54:24 < englishman> only if youre caught 2016-08-05T18:54:38 < Tectu> who comes up with those laws? 2016-08-05T18:54:47 < zyp> politicians? 2016-08-05T18:54:50 < englishman> prudes 2016-08-05T18:55:04 < brianx> Christians. 2016-08-05T18:55:19 < Tectu> anyway, I gotta go 2016-08-05T18:55:21 < zyp> wait, wtf 2016-08-05T18:55:25 < Tectu> what? 2016-08-05T18:55:33 < Tectu> hurry up, I have a bus to catch 2016-08-05T18:55:37 < brianx> Enjoy your sister. 2016-08-05T18:55:48 < zyp> it seems that porn is illegal here 2016-08-05T18:56:01 < Tectu> -__- 2016-08-05T18:58:17 < zyp> ah, only unapproved sale and distribution 2016-08-05T18:58:51 < Tectu> well, gotta go the 2016-08-05T18:58:52 < Tectu> cu o/ 2016-08-05T18:58:55 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T18:58:55 < Laurenceb> lul "approved" 2016-08-05T18:59:18 < zyp> yeah, by «medietilsynet» which I guess is the norwegian rating authority or something like that 2016-08-05T18:59:44 < Ecco> so that means that somewhere, there's a public servant whose job is to watch porn all day long 2016-08-05T18:59:50 < Ecco> noice 2016-08-05T19:00:09 < zyp> sure 2016-08-05T19:00:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T19:00:36 < Ecco> well, I guess they all do anyway, we might as well make it official for at least one 2016-08-05T19:00:42 < zyp> police also has investigators that spends a lot of time looking at child porn 2016-08-05T19:00:55 < zyp> Laurenceb's dream job 2016-08-05T19:01:03 < Laurenceb> stop projecting 2016-08-05T19:01:31 < zyp> stop denying 2016-08-05T19:04:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::5763] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-05T19:10:26 < Laurenceb> https://medium.com/@bryanedds/anatomy-of-a-corporate-cuck-255dbbd567b#.8yvcxtg5x 2016-08-05T19:26:41 < Lux> do i have to do something with the irs vector table with a custom bootloader on a stm32f0 ? 2016-08-05T19:27:39 < Lux> seems like i got everything going, but when it jumps to the user code it gets stuck at an address that might be related to the isr vector table 2016-08-05T19:32:42 < Rob235> hmm, my led animation library takes an average of 70% of cpu time :P 2016-08-05T19:33:44 < Steffanx> time for a dedicated controller? 2016-08-05T19:34:27 < Rob235> what hz should my main loop run at? 2016-08-05T19:36:20 < Ecco> mehshitcrap 2016-08-05T19:36:24 < Ecco> I think I figured it out 2016-08-05T19:36:30 < Ecco> TIM1 has slightly different registers 2016-08-05T19:36:53 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T19:37:26 < Rob235> Ecco: is it an f4? 2016-08-05T19:38:13 < Rob235> I'm using pwm on tim1 which is an advanced timer and needed to add this in my setup: 2016-08-05T19:38:18 < Rob235> / Enable main output (Needed for advanced timers) 2016-08-05T19:38:18 < Rob235> TIM_CtrlPWMOutputs(TIM1, ENABLE); 2016-08-05T19:38:27 < Rob235> using stdperiph library, not sure what you're using 2016-08-05T19:39:03 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775753.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T19:39:11 < Fleck> cubeMX can set up your timers, no? 2016-08-05T19:41:23 < Ecco> Rob235: indeed it is! 2016-08-05T19:41:24 < Ecco> Thanksç 2016-08-05T19:41:53 < Rob235> yup 2016-08-05T19:42:15 < Ecco> ok I *eventually* figured it out 2016-08-05T19:42:28 < Ecco> The advanded timer have another "enable" bit 2016-08-05T19:42:36 < Ecco> It's called "TIM_BDTR" 2016-08-05T19:43:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-05T19:45:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-08-05T19:45:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T19:51:15 < Rob235> f I copy a list of numbers and paste in excel its many rows in one column, is there a way to have it switch to the next column when it encounters a certain value or just every 10 values? 2016-08-05T19:54:37 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T19:58:43 < Laurenceb> The ACK request can be put in the packet (NO_ACK packet's bitfield at 1) 2016-08-05T19:58:45 < Laurenceb> NO_ACK 2016-08-05T19:58:45 < Laurenceb> (programmable field): 1 means for the rece 2016-08-05T19:58:45 < Laurenceb> iver that the packet is not to be auto- 2016-08-05T19:58:45 < Laurenceb> acknowledged. 2016-08-05T19:58:50 < Laurenceb> freaking ST 2016-08-05T20:01:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:10:32 < Steffanx> what sto freaking about that mr Laurenceb 2016-08-05T20:10:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:10:47 < Steffanx> *what's so 2016-08-05T20:10:55 < upgrdman> yay my node202 case arrives today 2016-08-05T20:10:58 < Laurenceb> well if I dont want ACK, should it be zero or one? 2016-08-05T20:12:08 < Steffanx> 1. At least that's what i make from that. 2016-08-05T20:12:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-05T20:13:26 < Laurenceb> looks like it does need to be one, very confusingly worded 2016-08-05T20:13:38 < Laurenceb> oh well back to having zero clue whats wrong 2016-08-05T20:13:58 < Laurenceb> going to have to write a decoder in matlab and grab everything with airspy it seems 2016-08-05T20:14:22 < Lux> Rob235: probably something > 100Hz 2016-08-05T20:14:33 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-05T20:14:44 < Lux> 1khz works well too as you don't run into nyquist problems with vibrations as easily 2016-08-05T20:15:00 < Rob235> oh ok, I was getting 600 avg, that was in calibration mode though, I want to check in armed mode now 2016-08-05T20:15:04 < Lux> and make sure to sync your readout to the gyro sampling 2016-08-05T20:15:14 < Rob235> and it seems like my led animation stuff could be optimized 2016-08-05T20:16:27 -!- ds2 [~ds2@rehut.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:17:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:19:08 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:30:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T20:33:05 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:36:29 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T20:40:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T20:42:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T20:44:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:45:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T20:54:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T20:54:59 < Laurenceb> managed a new record, 7% of theoretical throughput 2016-08-05T20:55:05 < Laurenceb> why is it so lame :-/ 2016-08-05T20:59:51 < Steffanx> uhm, who made up this theoretical throughput? 2016-08-05T21:00:05 < Laurenceb> bitrate/8 2016-08-05T21:00:17 < Laurenceb> with packet overhead 2016-08-05T21:00:30 < Steffanx> bitrate as specified by st? 2016-08-05T21:00:38 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-05T21:01:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-05T21:10:04 < Rickta59> Lux did you fix your problem with your user code jump? 2016-08-05T21:10:28 < Rob235> hmmm, now my main loop is getting an average of 2Mhz 2016-08-05T21:10:37 < Rob235> kHz... 2016-08-05T21:10:38 < Rob235> my bad 2016-08-05T21:11:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T21:16:33 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/VUqH4 2016-08-05T21:18:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-05T21:59:03 < Lux> Rickta59: sure, i just overlooked the example in the st appnote 2016-08-05T21:59:21 < Lux> you have to copy the vector table to the ram 2016-08-05T21:59:58 < Lux> and adjust a few things 2016-08-05T22:00:22 < Lux> now it works perfectly and i can flash my stuff via spi 2016-08-05T22:02:50 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-05T22:02:56 < Rob235> ahh the 2 kHz was with the led animation disabled 2016-08-05T22:08:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.56] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-05T22:13:58 < Rob235> right now the slowest my main loop runs is 292 Hz, updated leds and sensor in one iteration, sensors took 2.2ms and leds take 1.1ms 2016-08-05T22:14:02 < Rob235> I shouldn't have anything to worry about right? 2016-08-05T22:14:42 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T22:18:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T22:36:25 < Lux> ya should work 2016-08-05T22:36:51 < Lux> baseflight also only has 3.5ms loop time and flies fine 2016-08-05T22:38:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-05T22:52:42 < Rob235> ok cool, I'm still going to work on my animation library and try to cut some time off since it needs some fixing anyway, although 1.1ms update at 10-15 hz isn't a big deal 2016-08-05T22:55:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-05T22:55:07 < Rob235> if the sensors update during an iteration of the main loop maybe I'll have it skip the led update so that they don't happen at the same time, would that even matter though? 2016-08-05T22:57:26 < Ultrasauce> something to be careful about is you want to be sampling the sensors at a fixed rate 2016-08-05T22:57:48 < Ultrasauce> if you're not, then the control loop will be all kinds of fucked 2016-08-05T22:58:01 < Ultrasauce> since you'll effectively be introducing arbitrary D and I coefficients 2016-08-05T22:59:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T23:00:08 < Rob235> hmm. I read the sensors at 100 hz and store them, the pid updates more than 100hz though so it ends up using the same values multiple times 2016-08-05T23:05:00 < Rob235> I is a function of time so that shouldnt affect it, and with D (gyro) I will just end up using a smaller constant term 2016-08-05T23:05:27 < Rob235> but it should work as expected right? 2016-08-05T23:06:50 < Ultrasauce> d is implictly a function of time also 2016-08-05T23:08:07 < Rob235> yea true, but corrected by what I said last 2016-08-05T23:09:48 < Ultrasauce> the result of what you're proposing will be some number of d values being zero 2016-08-05T23:10:00 < Rob235> technically I can try flying it tomorrow when the props come... not sure if I'm ready yet, or if I'll ever feel ready 2016-08-05T23:10:15 < Ultrasauce> i strongly recommend doing the control loop in lockstep with the input sampling 2016-08-05T23:10:52 < Rob235> oh yea? so only update pid/motor speed at 100hz? 2016-08-05T23:12:20 < Ultrasauce> yes 2016-08-05T23:12:41 < Rob235> ok, easy enough to change 2016-08-05T23:19:54 < Ultrasauce> also don't try flying to start, turn the gains down and try having it balance itself on a point or ball or something 2016-08-05T23:21:13 < Rob235> yea, I bought this to limit it's movement while I test pid and everything: http://imgur.com/a/LUz3Y might need a cinderblock too 2016-08-05T23:21:15 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T23:22:07 < Ultrasauce> well that won't prevent an inversion 2016-08-05T23:22:22 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-05T23:24:57 < Rob235> if I can find two trees to attach the tethers to so that the drone is basically held in place and find different ways to mount the tethers to test each axis 2016-08-05T23:29:16 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T23:32:48 < Rob235> hmm was just thinking, there are other inputs to the pid/motor mixer... mainly the receiver, wouldn't it be better to update more often than the imu to adjust more quickly to rx input? 2016-08-05T23:36:21 < Rob235> and with accel how do you keep altitude in hovermode? just integrate accel in gravity direction and pid it to get to zero? 2016-08-05T23:37:12 < Lux> with the accel alone you can't do anything 2016-08-05T23:37:40 < Lux> it's mainly used for smoothing out the baro readings or for very short periods of time 2016-08-05T23:37:58 < Rob235> so there is no hover without baro? 2016-08-05T23:38:14 < Lux> the signal you get from double integrating the accel will drift A LOT 2016-08-05T23:38:20 < Lux> yep 2016-08-05T23:38:34 < Lux> at least not with althold 2016-08-05T23:38:37 < Rob235> guess hover will have to wait until I mount the bmp on there 2016-08-05T23:39:14 < Rob235> althold isn't necessary at the moment really, it's more to try and hover instead of just shutting everything down when radio signal is lost 2016-08-05T23:40:09 < Ultrasauce> the canonical approach is to fly home to china 2016-08-05T23:40:13 < Lux> if i were you i'd also get a working flight control board just so you see that the rest works 2016-08-05T23:40:26 < Rob235> at the moment I just have it try to level out pitch/roll and set throttle to 30% or so and hope it gets to the ground better than just crashing 2016-08-05T23:40:27 < Lux> and that way you can gain some experience on how to control it 2016-08-05T23:42:09 < Lux> especially with no rc experience most people have a hard time in the beginning 2016-08-05T23:42:24 < Rob235> yea everyone recommends that but fuck it, I've been working on this so long I just want to try it... even if it crashes into a million pieces which it wont 2016-08-05T23:42:50 < Lux> it's pretty likely it will 2016-08-05T23:42:59 < Lux> judging from your chats here :P 2016-08-05T23:43:03 < Rob235> ive flown the tiny cx30 and have a simulator that I wanted to play with more, I know its not great but they both give me an idea on what to expect 2016-08-05T23:43:26 < Rob235> what specifically, my code or flying experience 2016-08-05T23:43:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:6d87:8b92:6e3e:15f8] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-05T23:43:38 < Rob235> just wondering which you are insulting, or both? 2016-08-05T23:43:59 < Lux> probably both 2016-08-05T23:44:03 < Ultrasauce> maybe the fact that it's being interpreted as an insult instead of friendlyadvice? 2016-08-05T23:44:16 < Lux> I'm not trying to be insulting, just speaking from experience 2016-08-05T23:44:43 < Lux> take it more like a friendly advice from someone who knows more than you ;) 2016-08-05T23:45:10 < Lux> I've spent a lot of time deving on quads and flying them 2016-08-05T23:45:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-05T23:46:43 < Rob235> I'm not saying you are wrong but still, I'm going for it 2016-08-05T23:49:03 < Steffanx> I like your drive and enthusiasm Rob235 :) --- Day changed Sat Aug 06 2016 2016-08-06T00:04:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T00:09:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-06T00:11:44 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-06T00:18:02 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-06T00:23:18 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tsqzjaxx29pnb.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T00:25:34 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vegkxxtdatb6v.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-06T00:31:12 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T00:41:12 < Rob235> hah thanks Steffanx 2016-08-06T01:02:35 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T01:04:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T01:06:20 < upgrdman> so rob has no rc flight experience and he's starting with a quad? 2016-08-06T01:08:19 < Steffanx> kinda. 2016-08-06T01:08:31 < Ultrasauce> well a micro is certainly a start 2016-08-06T01:10:41 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T01:11:20 < upgrdman> i remember when i worked in a rc shop. the customers learning on the $1k+ quads were, uh, "interesting" 2016-08-06T01:13:07 < upgrdman> combining the difficulty of setting up a quad, with learning how to fly something with few visual aids regarding orientation (unlike a plane or heli), is well... lots of money :) 2016-08-06T01:14:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-06T01:15:04 < Steffanx> rage quit. 2016-08-06T01:15:30 < Steffanx> i gues he just figured out torrentz is gone. 2016-08-06T01:15:33 < Steffanx> *guess 2016-08-06T01:16:04 < mitrax> this channel is worse than #electronics!!!!! 2016-08-06T01:16:05 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-06T01:16:05 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T01:16:09 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T01:16:44 < Steffanx> can't tell, im not there mitrax 2016-08-06T01:17:06 < mitrax> never been there, it's just what a guy said in here the other day before leaving :) 2016-08-06T01:21:30 < Steffanx> Hah 2016-08-06T01:21:59 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-06T01:26:14 < mitrax> that reminds me, seems like ohsix is gone for good 2016-08-06T01:29:20 < mitrax> jpa- monthly log must have shrunk by 50% 2016-08-06T01:30:23 < Steffanx> no, not at all 2016-08-06T01:30:30 < Steffanx> he wasn't in there 2016-08-06T01:30:38 < mitrax> oh ahah 2016-08-06T01:30:59 < Steffanx> everyone jpa- ignores do not get in there. Those logs are just jpa-'s irssi logs 2016-08-06T01:31:20 < mitrax> i see 2016-08-06T01:34:36 < englishman> when were you working at an rc ship upgrdman 2016-08-06T01:34:43 < englishman> cant be that long ago if you were selling quadz 2016-08-06T01:37:57 < Steffanx> don't you remember he was working on that servo tester thing? 2016-08-06T01:38:19 < englishman> i don't 2016-08-06T01:40:02 < upgrdman> i worked RC from 2005 - 2013. some of that was in the shop, most was in customer service doing tech support and electronics repair 2016-08-06T01:40:16 < englishman> cool 2016-08-06T01:40:20 < englishman> thats quite a while 2016-08-06T01:40:45 < upgrdman> ya. a big regret of mine. i took too long to finish my degree and become a pro ee trol 2016-08-06T01:40:47 < upgrdman> troll* 2016-08-06T01:41:02 < upgrdman> i now pay more in taxes than i used to make :) 2016-08-06T01:41:38 < englishman> too bad you only have 3 weeks a year in the usa to spend it 2016-08-06T01:41:52 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-06T01:42:04 < upgrdman> i'll be in the us more often now. 2016-08-06T01:42:28 < upgrdman> i think my hatred of being in cn shined through, and my boss didnt want me to quit 2016-08-06T01:44:31 < upgrdman> next project at work sounds fun. make pcb and write verilog to interface with xray detectors and adcs and packetize data 2016-08-06T01:45:08 < upgrdman> going to San Diego for a few days for some altidongs pro training classes 2016-08-06T01:45:24 < Steffanx> altium pro i a few days. 2016-08-06T01:45:31 < Steffanx> in 2016-08-06T01:46:06 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@162.222.147.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T01:46:10 < upgrdman> well i've been using altidongs for a while. but its been more of a "i made it work" than "i did it the best way" 2016-08-06T01:46:14 < englishman> cool 2016-08-06T01:46:16 < Steffanx> i always wonder, do all you guys in the usa work cubicle style? 2016-08-06T01:46:19 < englishman> sand yego is nice too 2016-08-06T01:46:27 < upgrdman> Steffanx, lol, not me 2016-08-06T01:46:32 < englishman> wear lots of this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpDHSrdVYAAJfPf.jpg 2016-08-06T01:46:36 < upgrdman> but when i was in cn, i was in a cubicle :/ 2016-08-06T01:46:45 < Steffanx> lol englishman 2016-08-06T01:47:08 < upgrdman> in the us i have an office with one other guy. and the other guy is often not in the office but doing stuff in other areas, so i basically have my own office. 2016-08-06T01:47:16 < upgrdman> with a window too :) but not much of a view 2016-08-06T01:48:08 < upgrdman> Steffanx, are you cubicled? 2016-08-06T01:48:40 < Steffanx> No, was about to say: sounds like my office. 2016-08-06T01:48:47 < upgrdman> nice 2016-08-06T01:48:47 < Steffanx> except that the guy is in ~all the time 2016-08-06T01:48:56 < mitrax> no jerking off :( 2016-08-06T01:49:00 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-06T01:49:08 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T01:49:11 < Steffanx> in dutchland we dont really do cubicles 2016-08-06T01:49:52 < upgrdman> coming back from cn, all the little 1st world things are so nice. simple stuff too. like all of the lights are the same color temperature. the bathrooms have paper towels. central a/c. etc 2016-08-06T01:50:09 < Steffanx> would you ever do that in the office while your boss can come in any moment, mitrax? 2016-08-06T01:51:01 < Steffanx> dont tell me, dont want to know 2016-08-06T01:51:22 < mitrax> if i had a boss and worked in a company office, no probably not 2016-08-06T01:51:36 * upgrdman looks for that GIF of a guy fapping to his pc, when some girl opens his door and he just stare at her while continuing to fap 2016-08-06T01:51:43 < Steffanx> oh, you're your own boss aswell mitrax? 2016-08-06T01:52:01 < Laurenceb__> like all of the lights are the same color temperature. the bathrooms have paper towels. central a/c. etc 2016-08-06T01:52:06 < Steffanx> lol upgrdman. This maybe even worse than gif posting :P 2016-08-06T01:52:08 < mitrax> yup 2016-08-06T01:52:08 < Laurenceb__> wait my work has none of these 2016-08-06T01:52:20 < englishman> Laurenceb__: move to a 1st world country then 2016-08-06T01:52:25 < upgrdman> TIL Laurenceb__ is chinese 2016-08-06T01:52:44 < Steffanx> the brexit didnt do Laurenceb__ much good. 2016-08-06T01:52:56 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/xibe7vK.gif 2016-08-06T01:53:00 < Laurenceb__> upgrdman at work ^ 2016-08-06T01:53:32 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-06T01:54:50 < upgrdman> it also feels weird to have real internet access now that im back in the us. in cn before i didnt *anything* i would have to fire up openvpn. 2016-08-06T01:55:00 < upgrdman> now i can just check my email, and it fucking works. 2016-08-06T01:55:20 < Rob235> upgrdman: I have no rc experience and I'm learning with a hex 2016-08-06T01:55:53 < Rob235> starting with* 2016-08-06T01:55:54 < upgrdman> Rob235, i suggest flying on a sim first. orientation with quads can be a real bitch 2016-08-06T01:56:26 < upgrdman> also, get your flight controller working properly. 2016-08-06T01:56:50 < Rob235> it's just about there 2016-08-06T01:57:43 < upgrdman> and for fuck sake, realize that a big quad can seriously hurt you and others. like put you in the hospital or even the morgue if you get super unlucky. 2016-08-06T01:58:00 < Rob235> I'm not an idiot 2016-08-06T01:58:12 < upgrdman> im not saying you are 2016-08-06T01:58:16 < Rob235> it will be tethered to the ground or something for quite a while before I set it free 2016-08-06T01:58:29 < upgrdman> but sooooooo many people don't realize the danger 2016-08-06T01:58:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T01:59:47 < Rob235> my gf and everyone is telling me to fly it already and I have to explain it to them 2016-08-06T02:00:39 < Steffanx> even my cx30 is a real danger to myself 2016-08-06T02:01:01 < Rob235> my cx30 has drawn blood 2016-08-06T02:01:07 < Steffanx> yes yes. 2016-08-06T02:01:18 < upgrdman> bbl 2016-08-06T02:01:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-06T02:01:39 < englishman> ^ big bad rc pro trying to scare the noobs 2016-08-06T02:01:42 < englishman> just go fly it bro 2016-08-06T02:02:13 < Rob235> I'm going to, just waiting on parts 2016-08-06T02:02:24 < Steffanx> reminds me of that other guy in here, who never did a qaud and build a huge arse one 2016-08-06T02:02:35 < Steffanx> not seen that guy in a while 2016-08-06T02:02:39 < Steffanx> dont remember his nick 2016-08-06T02:03:17 < englishman> try to fly like this https://youtu.be/RqhwSX6VXf4?t=28s 2016-08-06T02:03:21 < Rob235> gonna forget my name too? hah 2016-08-06T02:03:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T02:03:51 < Steffanx> only when you leave/die/dont show up for a long time Rob235 2016-08-06T02:04:09 < englishman> like beaky 2016-08-06T02:04:11 < englishman> or baird 2016-08-06T02:04:23 < Steffanx> those 2 a both alive and not forgotten 2016-08-06T02:22:03 < jadew> got a module off of ebay, around a particular IC, it has no markings hehe 2016-08-06T02:22:12 < jadew> just the dot, for pin 1 2016-08-06T02:24:12 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/files/20160806_022009.jpg 2016-08-06T02:26:18 < Steffanx> and that is the module doing? 2016-08-06T02:26:53 < jadew> it's one of those RFID readers/writers 2016-08-06T02:30:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T02:49:08 < jadew> shit module 2016-08-06T02:49:20 < jadew> the IC has some setting pins and they're hardwired 2016-08-06T02:49:33 < jadew> they couldn't spare a couple of 0 ohm resistors 2016-08-06T02:49:48 < upgrdman> damn. my mobo and gpu wont arrive until monday :( 2016-08-06T02:52:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T02:57:19 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T03:21:25 < Steffanx> Grab a beer, start movie and call it a night after that crt 2016-08-06T03:22:09 < Steffanx> except for the beer and the movie being some series, yes 2016-08-06T03:23:34 < englishman> will you be recording your audiophool device repairs today 2016-08-06T03:23:44 < englishman> so you can rake in the youtube monies 2016-08-06T03:23:53 < englishman> and work for America's Largest Employer, Youtube 2016-08-06T03:28:36 < Steffanx> why you dont install a proper client. Now it looks like you're just stalking us with the web client 2016-08-06T03:37:18 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has quit [Excess Flood] 2016-08-06T03:37:56 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T03:38:10 < englishman> why arent you drinking beer Steffanx 2016-08-06T03:39:17 < englishman> nice ute braddah 2016-08-06T03:39:52 < englishman> better yet 2016-08-06T03:39:57 < englishman> make a small investment http://www.banggood.com/304-Stainless-Steel-Home-Brew-Alcohol-Wine-Distiller-Moonshine-Still-Brandy-Wine-Spirit-Distiller-p-1042662.html 2016-08-06T03:40:04 < englishman> and fuck the govt over doubly! 2016-08-06T03:40:09 < englishman> crt whiskey and spirits co inc 2016-08-06T03:40:23 * Laurenceb__ is contemplating writing new sp1ml firmware 2016-08-06T03:40:59 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-06T03:41:14 < Laurenceb__> sp1ml firmware that actually works 2016-08-06T03:41:54 < Laurenceb__> nope 2016-08-06T03:41:55 < upgrdman> is it just me, or do jap women that are narrating something or making a public address, they sound out of breath or something? its weird. like in an airport, jap airlines made some announcement like that. 2016-08-06T03:42:29 < upgrdman> maybe not out of breath, but just a weird pace or tone or somethig 2016-08-06T03:43:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-06T03:44:46 < Laurenceb__> haha top bantz 2016-08-06T03:45:32 < Laurenceb__> /join #nazi 2016-08-06T03:45:34 < Laurenceb__> * Topic for ##you_have_got_to_be_kidding is: Hi, you should probably read the network policy page 2016-08-06T03:47:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T03:48:30 < Laurenceb__> lol wtf I can /join #pedo 2016-08-06T03:48:38 < Laurenceb__> used to go to the same place 2016-08-06T03:48:57 < Laurenceb__> NAMBLA at work 2016-08-06T03:49:12 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-06T03:50:07 < Laurenceb__> looks like it 2016-08-06T03:50:41 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEolSjlcqng 2016-08-06T03:51:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T03:55:07 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/mAUeTi.png 2016-08-06T04:01:28 < Laurenceb__> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3e0_1470382001&comments=1 2016-08-06T04:01:37 < Laurenceb__> lul @ comments 2016-08-06T04:04:17 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-06T04:04:34 < Laurenceb__> so many "infractions" 2016-08-06T04:07:21 < Laurenceb__> they had liveleak founder on BBC news a few months ago 2016-08-06T04:07:42 < Laurenceb__> looks like a hells angel 2016-08-06T04:08:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:6d87:8b92:6e3e:15f8] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T04:09:24 < englishman> the worldstar founder is pretty funny too 2016-08-06T04:10:12 < Laurenceb__> heh worldstaring is now a liveleak meme 2016-08-06T04:11:25 < Laurenceb__> when people are street fighting and someone pulls out a phone and shouts WORLDSTAR 2016-08-06T04:13:00 < Laurenceb__> https://vimeo.com/155089463 2016-08-06T04:18:26 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T04:21:46 < englishman> non operational amplifier 2016-08-06T04:22:54 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T04:24:18 < upgrdman> how i imagine most arguments in australia: http://www.gifbeam.com/uploads/5/0/4/6/50461919/3877042119_orig.gif 2016-08-06T04:24:45 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T04:24:52 < upgrdman> needs more beer? 2016-08-06T04:26:02 < upgrdman> i.imgur.com/eH2REpi.jpg 2016-08-06T04:27:36 < upgrdman> you must be new here 2016-08-06T04:29:38 < ReadError> dongs signed on at June 15, 2016 at 7:08:01 PM EDT and has been idle for 2 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, 34 seconds 2016-08-06T04:29:45 < ReadError> where is senpai crt ? 2016-08-06T04:31:45 < upgrdman> kinda displeased to see rainbow wire here http://i.imgur.com/3mqK5FE.jpg 2016-08-06T04:32:33 < englishman> upgrdman, did you have that stm32 spectrum analyzer or fft plot or something 2016-08-06T04:32:37 < englishman> with colour screen 2016-08-06T04:32:44 < ReadError> knowing its nasty PVC shit upgrdman ? 2016-08-06T04:32:45 < upgrdman> ya thats me 2016-08-06T04:32:56 < englishman> what do you know about screens 2016-08-06T04:33:03 < englishman> like besides cheap $2-5 china stuff 2016-08-06T04:33:12 < upgrdman> http://www.farrellf.com/projects/hardware/2014-09-27_Servo_Tester,_2.4GHz_Spectrum_Analyzer,_Tetris/ 2016-08-06T04:33:13 < englishman> what's out there 2016-08-06T04:33:14 < ReadError> screens you want senpai Tectu 2016-08-06T04:33:27 < englishman> thx i cant afford expensive swissgfx 2016-08-06T04:33:41 < englishman> stemwin is $$free$$ 2016-08-06T04:33:42 < ReadError> but he has some nice 200$ LCDs 2016-08-06T04:33:49 < upgrdman> englishman, not much. i've used plenty of shit cheap lcds. nothign quality yet, but i plan to dick with the DSI lcd used on the f4 or f7 discos 2016-08-06T04:33:56 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T04:34:21 < englishman> for stuff that's spi controlled, is there a preferred type of screen or controller, or is it all 'pick your own chinashit' 2016-08-06T04:34:24 < upgrdman> i wish there were IPS screens that were easy to talk to :/ 2016-08-06T04:34:36 -!- Fleck [~fleck@unaffiliated/fleck] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T04:34:53 < upgrdman> im like half tempted to make my own fpga->lcd board, and let the fpga talk to an mcu via spi or something 2016-08-06T04:35:10 < upgrdman> englishman, pick random china shit, afaik 2016-08-06T04:35:15 < englishman> ok 2016-08-06T04:35:29 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-08-06T04:35:47 < upgrdman> i was kinda tempted to try these, but im sure theyre just as shit as the ones i've used before http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-4-inch-240-320-SPI-Serial-TFT-LCD-Module-Display-ILI9341-Driver/201250221511?_trksid=p2045573.c100506.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555014%26algo%3DPL.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D35375%26meid%3Dc8675ef92a2e4436be7027c8f582c87b%26pid%3D100506%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26 2016-08-06T04:35:48 < englishman> i did that, and it gave me a chance to use HxD! first time in like 10 years 2016-08-06T04:35:53 < upgrdman> wtf url, lol 2016-08-06T04:35:58 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T04:36:06 < englishman> for bmp -> .c file conversion https://i.sli.mg/qjfKHd.jpg 2016-08-06T04:36:24 < englishman> 240x320 is nice 2016-08-06T04:37:01 < upgrdman> heh i think i have the same lcd http://farrellf.com/temp/spi_lcd2.jpg 2016-08-06T04:37:07 < ReadError> that contrash ratio 2016-08-06T04:37:20 < ReadError> i want a nice fat OLED 2016-08-06T04:37:27 < upgrdman> and http://farrellf.com/temp/new_lcd_font.jpg 2016-08-06T04:37:51 < englishman> is that tft 2016-08-06T04:38:06 < upgrdman> ya 2016-08-06T04:38:10 < englishman> looks great 2016-08-06T04:38:15 < upgrdman> its like the cheapest ebay lcd i could find 2016-08-06T04:38:24 < upgrdman> err cheapest *spi* lcd 2016-08-06T04:38:36 < upgrdman> like $2.50 for lcd or $3.50 or b-out board 2016-08-06T04:38:39 < ReadError> hoe lee shit 2016-08-06T04:38:41 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM6WbUw7Bs 2016-08-06T04:39:17 < englishman> jammin beets 2016-08-06T04:39:37 < ReadError> dongs must be off making more vids 2016-08-06T04:41:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T04:45:56 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T04:59:39 < ReadError> i axed you 2016-08-06T05:03:27 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-06T05:32:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T05:33:15 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T05:34:15 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2016-08-06T05:35:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T05:39:11 < ReadError> the l0de radio hour is now online! call in live! 415-349-5666 watch your friends chat! Tonight's episode: HOT STOCKS, HOT COCKS! https://youtu.be/VDzeXqlVi5A 2016-08-06T05:40:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-06T05:49:51 < ReadError> uh 2016-08-06T06:13:12 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/gallery/4MPVs 2016-08-06T06:23:13 < upgrdman> damn, kickass torrents got busted. 2016-08-06T06:24:01 < ReadError> ya weeks ago ;p 2016-08-06T06:29:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T06:30:38 < englishman> lol 2016-08-06T06:34:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-06T06:37:50 < upgrdman> so any decent KAT equiv? 2016-08-06T06:39:29 < ReadError> i use iptorrents 2016-08-06T06:41:45 < upgrdman> lol they require login? 2016-08-06T07:01:42 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T07:13:56 < ReadError> private site 2016-08-06T07:14:02 < ReadError> keeps the trash away 2016-08-06T07:23:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T07:28:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T07:41:26 < ReadError> we pummmmppppinnnnnnnn 2016-08-06T07:42:12 < ReadError> DOS 2016-08-06T07:42:16 < ReadError> DOS 2016-08-06T07:43:30 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T07:55:56 -!- chuckmcm [~quassel@50.247.73.12] has left ##stm32 ["http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."] 2016-08-06T08:14:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T08:15:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T08:17:59 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T08:22:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-06T08:25:52 < ReadError> any ideas for a board-to-board connector for 2 boards that would meet side to side 2016-08-06T08:25:58 < ReadError> only need 2 pins 2016-08-06T08:26:08 < ReadError> but more is fine 2016-08-06T08:45:34 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T08:50:50 < ReadError> yea but something with some load bearing integrity 2016-08-06T08:51:02 < ReadError> so throughhole something 2016-08-06T09:04:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T09:15:01 < ReadError> also: http://i.imgur.com/9xLiwqB.png 2016-08-06T09:15:09 < ReadError> if you make drawings like this, fuck you 2016-08-06T09:18:22 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/KXJbtf9.png 2016-08-06T09:23:41 < dekar> That's a common issue, isn't it? I feel like the people making those try to give the least amount of measurements possible. 2016-08-06T09:24:45 < ReadError> its like they make money every time I gotta open calc.exe 2016-08-06T09:25:04 < ReadError> if altium would add the math support that would help 2016-08-06T09:25:43 < ReadError> y=(19.11/2)+7.95 2016-08-06T09:25:51 < ReadError> but no 2016-08-06T09:29:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T09:41:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T10:12:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-06T10:21:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T10:27:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-06T10:50:47 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-06T10:51:05 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:00:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:03:29 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:04:51 < ReadError> http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/672983090_sd.pdf 2016-08-06T11:04:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-06T11:05:01 < ReadError> another horrible drawing/datasheet 2016-08-06T11:06:00 < jpa-> what's horrible about that? 2016-08-06T11:06:55 < ReadError> well, labeling the pins would have been nice 2016-08-06T11:07:07 < ReadError> or atleast saved me from looking it up 2016-08-06T11:07:29 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:07:51 < jpa-> well, atleast it gives it 1..4 2016-08-06T11:13:56 < ReadError> ok another thing 2016-08-06T11:14:01 < ReadError> the 2nd row of 4 holes 2016-08-06T11:14:13 < ReadError> if you wanted to see the distance they are from the first 2016-08-06T11:14:21 < ReadError> theres all kinds of math fuckery 2016-08-06T11:16:43 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:26:28 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T11:36:23 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:41:16 < upgrdman> anyone upgraded from a 500MB/s SSD to a 1000MB/s SSD? notice a diff in real world applications (other than copying big files) 2016-08-06T11:41:24 < ReadError> no 2016-08-06T11:41:59 < ReadError> https://www.instagram.com/p/BIu_ab6DmFl/?taken-by=reed.ayer 2016-08-06T11:42:25 < upgrdman> bought a 1TB M.2 but it's the previous generation which is rated at 550MB/s ... didnt want to pay more than double for 1TB of the newest bestest sutff :( 2016-08-06T11:43:25 < ReadError> yea you wont notice 2016-08-06T11:43:43 < upgrdman> yay 2016-08-06T11:45:32 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T11:47:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.174] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-06T11:48:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T11:54:20 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:56:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T11:59:00 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-06T12:00:52 < dekar> jpa-, ebikes are so overpriced in the West. I just bought a small foldable one in China. It was 470€, goes 30km/h and has 50km range. (576Wh) 2016-08-06T12:02:21 < dekar> I think in Europe I'd pay that much for the battery alone. :/ 2016-08-06T12:02:32 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T12:10:51 < upgrdman> 50km range? wow 2016-08-06T12:11:11 < upgrdman> is that 50km if you're a little chinagirl, or normal man? 2016-08-06T12:11:26 < Ecco> that's 50km on a ski slope 2016-08-06T12:19:23 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-06T12:22:15 < dekar> To be honest, I didn't ride until it was empty so far. But it surely lasts over 35km. 2016-08-06T12:23:06 < upgrdman> pic? 2016-08-06T12:25:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.174] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-06T12:26:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.174] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T12:27:27 < dekar> upgrdman, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/IMG_20160806_172407.jpg 2016-08-06T12:27:34 < dekar> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/IMG_20160806_172439.jpg 2016-08-06T12:28:02 < dekar> You can actually fold it quite a bit more. 2016-08-06T12:28:05 < upgrdman> hmmm neat 2016-08-06T12:28:39 < upgrdman> if i was still in cn i would be tempted to get it. fucking walking around 2016-08-06T12:29:04 < dekar> I bought it on Taobao :) 2016-08-06T12:29:14 < upgrdman> does cn require license for ebikes? 2016-08-06T12:29:20 < upgrdman> i know they do for scooters 2016-08-06T12:29:30 < dekar> My colleague's, fully folded: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/IMG_20160530_111743.jpg 2016-08-06T12:29:59 < dekar> They have some restrictions, they depend on the city you're in. 2016-08-06T12:30:12 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-06T12:31:30 < upgrdman> hmm so only shock absorber is the little guy in the middle? how's your ass after a ride? 2016-08-06T12:32:33 < dekar> The ride is a bit rough, but totally beats walking. 2016-08-06T12:33:01 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-06T12:33:03 < dekar> And given the size, you can take it into stores and the like. If you leave ebikes outside people will steal your batteries. 2016-08-06T12:33:17 < upgrdman> orly. lol 2016-08-06T12:34:11 < dekar> I actually really like that you can still push it while folded together. Most foldables have to be carried. 2016-08-06T12:34:35 < upgrdman> fuck its already 2:30am. 2016-08-06T12:34:50 < upgrdman> bbl. damn jet lag is still messing with me 2016-08-06T12:35:20 < dekar> Jet lag is the worst, I'll have some next week. :/ 2016-08-06T12:40:33 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-06T12:48:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T12:50:51 < jpa-> if it is actually 576Wh, then 50km sounds very much reasonable 2016-08-06T12:51:01 < jpa-> i get about that much on 350Wh 2016-08-06T12:52:06 < jpa-> i think i spent about 500€ on mine, but it was just the motor + battery + controller, i already had the bike 2016-08-06T12:52:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T12:59:34 < Steffanx> And the tools to get the motor in the wheel or was that done for you? 2016-08-06T13:02:13 < jpa-> nah, did it myself; the only necessary tool was a $2 spoke wrench, though a dial indicator helped (which i happened to have for other purposes) 2016-08-06T13:08:09 < Steffanx> Isnt getting the spokes in right a cumbersome job/pita? 2016-08-06T13:08:44 < jpa-> it took one friday evening to get it right, but not particularly difficult 2016-08-06T13:09:00 < jpa-> it was my first time lacing a wheel so had to disassemble and restart a few times 2016-08-06T13:12:41 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T13:12:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T13:13:21 < Tectu> Hi folks 2016-08-06T13:13:30 < Tectu> How's life and stuff? 2016-08-06T13:13:43 < jpa-> good 2016-08-06T13:14:17 < Tectu> zyp, related to yesterday's talk: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1338227/Switzerland-repeal-obsolete-incest-laws.html 2016-08-06T13:14:24 < Tectu> glad to hear that, jpa- ! 2016-08-06T13:15:02 < jpa-> now i wonder what was the yesterday's talk.. but i think i'll enjoy my imagination more than the logs 2016-08-06T13:22:51 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T13:22:51 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-06T13:22:51 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T13:30:14 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T13:34:38 < zyp> Tectu, haha 2016-08-06T13:36:12 < zyp> and regarding ebike range, I've done 50km on mine, with 360Wh 2016-08-06T13:42:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T13:46:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T13:47:08 -!- ehsanv1 [~pero@46.224.51.217] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-06T13:50:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.185] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T14:12:21 < ReadError> https://www.instagram.com/p/BIw9sEMjDk4/?taken-by=reed.ayer awww yisssss 2016-08-06T14:15:07 < ReadError> zfs 2016-08-06T14:31:58 < Laurenceb__> grrr why spirit1 some complex 2016-08-06T14:32:01 < Laurenceb__> *so 2016-08-06T14:32:08 < Laurenceb__> this is going to take a while 2016-08-06T14:33:26 < ReadError> why dont you try picking parts that fucking work, cuck 2016-08-06T14:33:39 < zyp> haha 2016-08-06T14:33:39 < ReadError> just a novel idea i thought of 2016-08-06T14:34:32 < Laurenceb__> well ST claim SP1ML works 2016-08-06T14:34:46 < Laurenceb__> and I have PCBs assembled now :S 2016-08-06T14:35:33 < Laurenceb__> prob only a few days work to write working firmware 2016-08-06T14:36:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T14:37:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-06T14:41:24 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-06T14:44:15 < Laurenceb__> looks like most of the issues are down to how ST schedule Rx or Tx state 2016-08-06T14:44:53 < Laurenceb__> one side can jam in Rx state and only come out upon packet reception or a 1 second timeout 2016-08-06T14:45:22 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T14:47:11 < Laurenceb__> I suspect they use the spirit1 tx/rx timeout function and some state machine on the L1, so it ends up weird due to how the timeouts work on the spirit1 2016-08-06T14:47:40 < Laurenceb__> wheras its possible to force rx/tx modes using the spirit1 gpio 2016-08-06T15:00:46 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-06T15:06:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T15:30:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T15:33:28 < ReadError> so theres a weird bug in altium 2016-08-06T15:33:30 < ReadError> or feature 2016-08-06T15:33:41 < ReadError> depending on where/how you grab a part and move it 2016-08-06T15:33:46 < ReadError> it can go offgrid 2016-08-06T15:34:08 < ReadError> sure 2016-08-06T15:34:43 < ReadError> nah I dont want them fixed Im just blogging 2016-08-06T15:34:50 < ReadError> gotta earn that 10cents/post my dude 2016-08-06T15:35:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-06T15:37:51 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-06T15:44:58 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T15:47:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T15:48:57 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/gW9117e.png making my kawaii charger 2016-08-06T15:49:33 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/LfgEydC.png then i put ground magnet on back 2016-08-06T15:51:07 < ReadError> button 2016-08-06T15:51:31 < ReadError> ill prolly switch it to something less tall 2016-08-06T15:51:39 < ReadError> cuz i wanna make this fit into a sleeve 2016-08-06T15:51:49 < ReadError> right 2016-08-06T15:51:59 < ReadError> (((cuck))) 2016-08-06T15:53:07 < ReadError> ye aint bout dat life 2016-08-06T15:54:11 < mitrax> how's the new shop thing going? 2016-08-06T15:55:27 < mitrax> what's the name? 2016-08-06T15:55:39 < mitrax> (of the shop) anything fancy? 2016-08-06T15:57:03 < mitrax> what about Uncle Bob's Repair? 2016-08-06T15:57:23 < dekar> jpa-, zyp: for mine I don't use assist, I only use the motor. The pollution is so bad around here, and the US embassy states I shouldn't even spend much time outside to begin with, much less have actual outdoor exertion. 2016-08-06T15:57:48 < dekar> But still 576Wh seems plenty. 2016-08-06T15:59:27 < mitrax> okay 2016-08-06T16:00:09 < zyp> dekar, over here, only assist is legal 2016-08-06T16:01:15 < ReadError> already own the *tronics empire sorry no can have. 2016-08-06T16:01:57 < dekar> zyp, I know, same in Germany. Also our speed limit is 20 or 25km/h IIRC. But I think that's really preventing ebikes from further adoption. Having a tiny bike with 360W is so useful. The things you can buy in Germany don't even compare. 2016-08-06T16:02:51 < zyp> 25km/h, 250W and assist only in norway 2016-08-06T16:02:56 < dekar> With that speed and range I could see it replace scooters and even cars for many situations. And it's surely faster than I can cycle for prolonged times. 2016-08-06T16:04:22 < zyp> then again, 250W is more than enough to matter 2016-08-06T16:05:35 < dekar> IDK, to me 250W feels a bit lacking. 360W just has more... oomph. 2016-08-06T16:05:35 < zyp> the 25km/h limit I don't really agree with though :p 2016-08-06T16:06:15 < zyp> on my bike, speed limit is just a configuration option, can be changed on the fly 2016-08-06T16:06:24 < zyp> I have it set high enough that I'll never hit it 2016-08-06T16:07:05 < dekar> I'm not even sure if I'll bother bringing it to Germany once I stop coming to China. Having to take off the twist throttle and getting a 36V (->250W) battery instead of 48V cripples it quite badly. 2016-08-06T16:07:43 < zyp> or you could just use it illegally as it is 2016-08-06T16:07:55 < dekar> Also shipping the battery itself would be nearly impossible to begin with. 2016-08-06T16:08:08 < zyp> DHL? 2016-08-06T16:08:12 < dekar> Yeah, but then I'd still have to buy a new battery. 2016-08-06T16:08:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.152] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T16:09:01 < dekar> Nope, I asked around. None of the delivery services really wants to do it. I think DHL outright refused, some other quoted 400€. 2016-08-06T16:09:31 < zyp> when I ordered the kit for my bike from china, it arrived with DHL 2016-08-06T16:09:33 < zyp> battery and all 2016-08-06T16:09:51 < dekar> When was that? Chinese law changed the beginning of this year? 2016-08-06T16:09:58 < dekar> I think 2016-08-06T16:10:01 < zyp> october last year 2016-08-06T16:10:11 < dekar> Now they can't even ship single 18650 anymore. 2016-08-06T16:10:29 < zyp> sounds like bullshit 2016-08-06T16:10:52 < zyp> hmm, one of my friends are ordering same kit from same shop now, I'll ask him how his will arrive 2016-08-06T16:12:31 < dekar> I read they now have to ship them inside cheapo flashlights, because they're not allowed to ship the cells on their own. 2016-08-06T16:12:55 -!- ldxx [~kvirc@host-176-37-113-74.la.net.ua] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T16:13:11 < Lux> they can still ship lipo/ion cells, just not via the cheapest method anymore 2016-08-06T16:14:56 < dekar> "When it comes to the ebike business, Haz Mat shipping is the elephant in the room that no one really wants to talk about, or think about, or deal with on any real level." 2016-08-06T16:14:57 < dekar> https://electricbike-blog.com/2015/12/01/the-ebike-industries-dirty-little-secret-haz-mat-battery-shipping/ 2016-08-06T16:15:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-06T16:20:12 < dekar> My battery doesn't even have individual 18650, it's a huge LiPo pouch. I don't think I could reasonably split it up and ship it. 2016-08-06T16:20:22 < zyp> crt, buy a normal bike, get a motor kit for it 2016-08-06T16:20:26 < dekar> And for the 400€ they quoted me I could buy a new one. 2016-08-06T16:20:45 < zyp> heh 2016-08-06T16:21:00 < zyp> I think mine contains 50 18650 cells 2016-08-06T16:21:04 < zyp> 10s5p 2016-08-06T16:21:22 < dekar> Though the bike itself is tiny, I think I could just check it in as a normal piece of checked luggage. 2016-08-06T16:22:28 < zyp> crt, I have the BBS01, shit's nice 2016-08-06T16:23:16 < Lux> zyp: how fast does the bbs01 go ? 2016-08-06T16:23:57 < ReadError> yall think its possible to 'generate' enough metal content with a fuckload of vias for a magnet to stick? 2016-08-06T16:24:37 < dekar> ReadError, I don't think this works with copper. 2016-08-06T16:24:38 < zyp> Lux, with normal pedaling I do around 35km/h on flat ground 2016-08-06T16:24:54 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T16:25:01 < ReadError> magnets wont work w/ copper> 2016-08-06T16:25:42 < zyp> copper isn't magnetic 2016-08-06T16:25:49 < ReadError> ah interesting 2016-08-06T16:25:58 < ReadError> but solder could be? 2016-08-06T16:26:11 < zyp> don't think so? 2016-08-06T16:26:16 < ReadError> or maybe ill just glue something on idk 2016-08-06T16:26:29 < ReadError> i just need to hold a really light magnet in place 2016-08-06T16:26:30 < dekar> Readjust solder one of those RF can shields. :) 2016-08-06T16:26:38 < Lux> copper is diamagnetic 2016-08-06T16:27:01 < Lux> -> it'll actually try to get out of a strong magnetic field 2016-08-06T16:27:07 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/DVkxDPp.png 2016-08-06T16:27:19 < ReadError> i dont have huge space to put things tho 2016-08-06T16:27:21 < Lux> zyp: that's not bad for 250-350w 2016-08-06T16:27:30 < dekar> Cute board. 2016-08-06T16:27:41 < Lux> i was planning to get a bbs02, i think the motor is also the same 2016-08-06T16:27:47 < dekar> How about an RF can on top of all of that? 2016-08-06T16:27:47 < ReadError> thx its portable lipo charger 2016-08-06T16:28:32 < zyp> Lux, yeah, I think it's wound slightly different 2016-08-06T16:28:42 < zyp> but built the same way 2016-08-06T16:29:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T16:29:49 < zyp> yeah, that's what I paid for mine 2016-08-06T16:30:00 < zyp> and like $130 for the battery IIRC 2016-08-06T16:30:08 < zyp> no 2016-08-06T16:30:25 < zyp> ah, $160 for the battery 2016-08-06T16:30:39 < ReadError> dekar i think ill just glue a strip of metal to the outside tab 2016-08-06T16:31:53 < zyp> I looked at price/capacity and found that I could buy two 10Ah batteries for the price of one 16Ah battery :p 2016-08-06T16:32:08 < zyp> so I figured I'll buy one 10Ah battery and if that weren't enough, I'd buy another later 2016-08-06T16:32:20 < Lux> this is probably the cheapest option for lipos: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__56845__Multistar_High_Capacity_6S_10000mAh_Multi_Rotor_Lipo_Pack.html 2016-08-06T16:32:27 < englishman> bikes are for pedalling you lazy irc fatties 2016-08-06T16:32:28 < Lux> dunno how long they'll last though 2016-08-06T16:32:44 < Lux> and you need all the electronics for balanching+charging 2016-08-06T16:32:46 < zyp> https://bmsbattery.com/ebike-battery/730-36v10ah-bottle-09-e-bike-battery-charger-battery.html <- bought from here 2016-08-06T16:33:13 < dekar> crt, I'd really suggest going for 48V when it comes to ebikes. 2016-08-06T16:33:35 < zyp> dekar, the BBS01 is 36V 2016-08-06T16:35:39 < zyp> then again, if I were buying again, I'd be tempted to get the 750W BBS02 instead 2016-08-06T16:36:29 < zyp> because the risk to get caugt is pretty low 2016-08-06T16:36:46 -!- trezer [~yudis@114.125.171.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T16:37:16 < zyp> who? 2016-08-06T16:38:04 < zyp> I think early BBS units used some shitty mosfets that burned out 2016-08-06T16:38:29 < dekar> crt, I don't know about particular gear, only have two of those Chinese bikes. (One is my colleagues) One of them is 36V and one is 48V. The same motor has a much higher maximum speed with 48V and overall there's less loss everywhere. Is there any reason to go 36V? 2016-08-06T16:39:55 < zyp> dekar, the BBS01 is only rated for 36V 2016-08-06T16:40:14 < zyp> and there's no 250W 48V option 2016-08-06T16:40:54 < dekar> zyp, how about a 350W 48V option? You can always throttle using the controller, mine comes with 3 settings. 2016-08-06T16:41:51 < zyp> dekar, they do 250W, 350W and 500W in 36V and 500W and 750W in 48V 2016-08-06T16:42:07 < zyp> pick the power you want, buy a battery to fit 2016-08-06T16:42:24 < Lux> like anyone would check what wattage your ebike is 2016-08-06T16:42:53 < Lux> here it's also 250W/ 25km/h but noone cares 2016-08-06T16:43:00 < Lux> even the police doesn't 2016-08-06T16:43:14 < zyp> yeah, like I said, the risk to get caught is low 2016-08-06T16:43:55 < zyp> or some other asshole do 2016-08-06T16:45:01 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T16:50:16 < mitrax> what's wrong with australia? 2016-08-06T16:52:32 < mitrax> ahaha 2016-08-06T16:52:43 < ReadError> bob is a child molester though 2016-08-06T16:53:41 < mitrax> aren't we all? 2016-08-06T16:53:49 < ReadError> hmm, no 2016-08-06T16:53:55 < mitrax> oh fuck wrong window! 2016-08-06T16:55:11 < dekar> zyp, crt: What's so special about the BBS01? It seems to be meant for mid-drive installation, is there any reason you want this in a weak motor? I think front wheel is really convenient for low power and you even get all wheel drive if you pedal yourself. 2016-08-06T16:56:13 < zyp> dekar, why would motor power have anything to do with it? 2016-08-06T16:57:46 < dekar> From what I read mid-wheel makes most sense in mountain bikes. So you can use the gears for climbing. Front wheel is easy to install, less noisy and shouldn't be used with strong motors. I read strong motors might damage your frame when mounted in the front. 2016-08-06T16:58:37 < dekar> *mid-drive 2016-08-06T17:00:21 < Lux> dekar: if you consider the cog a front drive is pretty bad imo 2016-08-06T17:00:30 < zyp> the BBS doesn't really make any noise 2016-08-06T17:01:08 < zyp> and the argument about gears for climbing goes for any hilly route 2016-08-06T17:01:55 -!- trezer [~yudis@114.125.171.117] has quit [Quit: trezer] 2016-08-06T17:02:05 < zyp> front-drives also adds more weight to the front of the bike 2016-08-06T17:02:29 < zyp> and I'm not sure how all wheel drive is beneficial 2016-08-06T17:03:55 < zyp> from my perspective, the only disadvantage of a mid-drive is that it can't do regenerative braking, due to the free wheeling hub in the back wheel 2016-08-06T17:05:31 < zyp> I've seen people argue that the efficiency gain from being able to run the most appropriate gears outweighs the loss from not being able to regenerate, but I'm not sure whether this is entirely true or not 2016-08-06T17:07:08 -!- trezer [~yudis@114.125.171.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T17:07:13 < zyp> and the BBS01 was pretty easy to install too, just pull out the bottom bracket and put the BBS01 in its place 2016-08-06T17:08:02 < zyp> and then you don't have to mess around with cables every time you need to take off the front wheel for some reason :p 2016-08-06T17:08:30 < mitrax> crt: is there any trick involved for reverse phase dimming, besides zero crossing detection and timed release of IGBT/FET that switch the load ? friend of mine needs to build a dimmer for 1KW worth of led tubes (each have their own dimmable driver) 2016-08-06T17:12:28 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T17:12:29 < zyp> legacy dumbness 2016-08-06T17:12:37 < mitrax> well they're meant to be compatible with existing dimmers 2016-08-06T17:12:50 < mitrax> he tried a triac based one (forward phase) and they blink and shit, another that was reverse phase worked though but it's 400W only 2016-08-06T17:12:51 < dekar> crt, I just looked at some prices. Bafang BBS01 seems to be at least twice the price of the Bafang BPM. 2016-08-06T17:13:33 < dekar> Actually buying the BPM including a wheel is still half the price. 2016-08-06T17:13:49 < zyp> dekar, yeah, BBS01 is $400, hub drives are available for less 2016-08-06T17:15:22 < dekar> crt, how about two hub motors, front and back. Then you have all wheel electric. :D 2016-08-06T17:15:59 < dekar> Yeah, but not too common. 2016-08-06T17:16:07 -!- trezer [~yudis@114.125.171.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-06T17:17:02 -!- trezer [~yudis@114.125.171.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T17:18:55 < mitrax> yeah but you need some extra wires and shit, and you can't juste replace the lights in an existing installation... unless you use some CPL shit i guess but then it gets expensive 2016-08-06T17:19:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T17:23:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.24] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T17:23:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-06T17:24:02 < mitrax> what frequencies are those remote on? it's not ISM band is it? 2016-08-06T17:26:24 < mitrax> yeah it's retarded ... 2016-08-06T17:27:01 < mitrax> feels a bit like the first flat screens that only had VGA input 2016-08-06T17:27:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T17:28:03 < mitrax> in his case no, it's for a chicken farm 2016-08-06T17:28:13 < mitrax> ahahah 2016-08-06T17:30:17 < mitrax> another friend has a semi automated chicken pen, with the door opening / closing at night and a buzzer that warns the chicken of imminent closing 2016-08-06T17:30:59 < mitrax> it's funny to see the chickens get in by themselves when they hear the buzzer 2016-08-06T17:31:46 < mitrax> ahahaha 2016-08-06T17:35:27 < mitrax> anyway his dimming circuit better work ... i can smell the odor of 40 burnt drivers already :p 2016-08-06T17:36:55 < mitrax> let's hope there isn't any epileptic chicken! :p 2016-08-06T17:37:42 < mitrax> yeah i'm kidding, when i noticed it it was usually a small flicker every 10 or 20sec 2016-08-06T17:37:47 < mitrax> but enough to piss me off 2016-08-06T17:38:25 < mitrax> for a long time i only used incandescent bulbs in the small lamp behind my screens because of that 2016-08-06T17:40:55 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T17:41:28 < Tectu> crt o/ 2016-08-06T17:41:38 < mitrax> ahaha, how many? 2016-08-06T17:41:49 < Tectu> how is selling your ass on the street going, crt? 2016-08-06T17:42:14 < Tectu> crt, how come? 2016-08-06T17:42:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T17:43:07 < Tectu> crt, any past experiences? 2016-08-06T17:47:49 < Tectu> crt, nagging 2016-08-06T17:47:55 < Tectu> but that might be related to my slight hang over 2016-08-06T17:49:04 < mitrax> yup... dongs has been abducted 2016-08-06T17:49:38 < mitrax> nah... it's ohsix 2016-08-06T17:51:12 -!- trezer [~yudis@114.125.171.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-06T17:51:48 < Rob235> booo 2016-08-06T17:51:58 < Rob235> fedex lied, propellers arent getting delivered today 2016-08-06T17:53:48 < mitrax> Rob235: sorry we had to... we were concerned that you might hurt yourself 2016-08-06T17:53:53 < Rob235> haha 2016-08-06T17:54:03 < Rob235> and everyone else 2016-08-06T17:54:15 < Rob235> its a killing machine 2016-08-06T17:54:28 < ReadError> but the LEDs work god damnit 2016-08-06T17:54:33 < Rob235> haha no they dont 2016-08-06T17:54:46 < Rob235> I fucked with my library and now I have to fix it 2016-08-06T17:55:52 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T18:00:59 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T18:02:04 < Rob235> haha 2016-08-06T18:03:15 < Rob235> my china package is scheduled for monday and was ordered 2 days after the props, if they both arrive on the same day that's pretty sad 2016-08-06T18:03:36 < Rob235> props are just coming from west coast to east coast 2016-08-06T18:05:31 < mitrax> ADD MOAR LEDS 2016-08-06T18:05:47 < Rob235> I'm gonna fix my led library and look for more stuff that may cause problems 2016-08-06T18:05:58 < Rob235> or start on my usb host project 2016-08-06T18:06:27 < Rob235> with what 2016-08-06T18:06:35 < Tectu> processing of course 2016-08-06T18:06:38 < Laurenceb__> Rob235: do you have any telemetry link on your quad? 2016-08-06T18:06:53 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, o/ 2016-08-06T18:07:02 < Laurenceb__> huh? 2016-08-06T18:07:32 < Tectu> gimme high-five bro 2016-08-06T18:07:33 < Rob235> Laurenceb__: not yet, you have to build a circuit to split the s-port into tx and rx and I haven't done that yet, I'm waiting until I design a pcb to do that 2016-08-06T18:07:45 < Laurenceb__> k ^5 2016-08-06T18:08:26 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-06T18:09:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-06T18:10:12 < ReadError> Rob235 bandwidth is still kinda shitty 2016-08-06T18:10:26 < ReadError> you can get some 3dr telem clones for cheap 2016-08-06T18:10:46 < Rob235> on what, the x8r? 2016-08-06T18:10:59 < ReadError> bidirectional and not locked to the telem protocol shit 2016-08-06T18:11:10 < ReadError> nah its just a serial modem basically 2016-08-06T18:11:14 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-06T18:11:47 < ReadError> but the modules are like 6-7 bux 2016-08-06T18:11:53 < ReadError> so its cheap to setup 2016-08-06T18:13:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T18:15:31 < Rob235> so whats the benefit of a separate thing like the 3dr vs the telemetry with the x8r? arent they both basically serial modems? 2016-08-06T18:17:20 < ReadError> ive not heard of anyone doing a raw bidrectional link, i know they have the little adapter shits 2016-08-06T18:17:27 < ReadError> bandwidth is pretty low though 2016-08-06T18:17:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T18:18:08 < Laurenceb__> hmm maybe I should tyr this 2016-08-06T18:18:17 < Laurenceb__> any idea what the throughput is? 2016-08-06T18:18:39 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ pretty sure you can do 115k reliably 2016-08-06T18:18:45 < Laurenceb__> I need >6kByte/s throughput 2016-08-06T18:18:52 < ReadError> theres also error correction and other options 2016-08-06T18:19:01 < ReadError> SiK firmware 2016-08-06T18:19:08 < ReadError> runs on si1000 2016-08-06T18:19:37 < ReadError> but basically you flash that, tell it you dont want mavlink 2016-08-06T18:19:41 < ReadError> and it works 2016-08-06T18:20:15 -!- trezer [~smuxi@114.125.171.117] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T18:21:29 < Laurenceb__> might just be good enough for my link 2016-08-06T18:26:27 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ 'hm-trp' 2016-08-06T18:26:48 < Laurenceb__> as a quick and nasty solution I've got some reflashed bluetooth modules that actually work, and a cp2102 - bluetooth module dongle 2016-08-06T18:27:25 < ReadError> they got a 500mW version too 2016-08-06T18:28:03 < Laurenceb__> interesting, hoperf stuff seems to be quite poorly made, but specs arent bad 2016-08-06T18:28:22 < Laurenceb__> have you ever used it? 2016-08-06T18:28:27 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-06T18:28:41 < ReadError> i made some shitty little pcbs 2016-08-06T18:28:48 < ReadError> it was like the 2nd thing i ever made 2016-08-06T18:28:50 < Laurenceb__> did you get decent throughput? 2016-08-06T18:29:34 < ReadError> https://photos.smugmug.com/Quads/i-KrW8Zc5/0/X3/CA_05291404271419-X3.jpg 2016-08-06T18:29:45 < ReadError> yea it worked as expected 2016-08-06T18:30:26 < Laurenceb__> cool 2016-08-06T18:30:40 < Laurenceb__> I see ST have just released a v4 SP1ML firmware build 2016-08-06T18:30:48 < Laurenceb__> might try "upgrading" 2016-08-06T18:32:03 < ReadError> hey uh zyp 2016-08-06T18:32:05 < ReadError> dateline.au.2016.07.26.norways.stolen.children.720p.hdtv.x264-cbfm 2016-08-06T18:32:09 < ReadError> the fuck 2016-08-06T18:32:53 < Laurenceb__> dateline norway, to catch a zyp 2016-08-06T18:33:46 < ReadError> norway gov just be baby snatchin 2016-08-06T18:33:51 < zyp> that thing about some immigrants being annoyed at norwegian CPS? 2016-08-06T18:35:39 -!- mitrax_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T18:36:04 < mitrax_> GAAAAH, first BSOD on windows10 2016-08-06T18:36:47 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-06T18:38:11 < mitrax_> fucking os just crashed, and minidumps are disabled by default... switched to win10 only two weeks ago 2016-08-06T18:39:07 < mitrax_> i don't do twitter, never did never will 2016-08-06T18:39:45 < mitrax_> weird memory dumps are enabled but nothing was created 2016-08-06T18:40:11 < mitrax_> sure 2016-08-06T18:40:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-06T18:40:36 < mitrax_> if it's a faulty driver i can see it easly with windbg and symbol files installed 2016-08-06T18:41:09 < mitrax_> could be bad RAM but that box never BSOD in 5 years with win7 and it's on 24/24 2016-08-06T18:41:42 < mitrax_> well i did since i did a fresh install of win10 two weeks ago it installed other drivers 2016-08-06T18:43:47 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T18:44:31 < mitrax_> and no event in the system event log at the time of the crash... good job win10 2016-08-06T18:44:58 < Rob235> I'm getting old, I just pulled a muscle in my back by stretching 2016-08-06T18:45:50 < Laurenceb__> https://www.drupal.org/node/2275877#comment-8857185 2016-08-06T18:47:01 < Rob235> I'm 32 2016-08-06T18:47:23 < Rob235> I do 2016-08-06T18:47:26 < Tectu> -__- 2016-08-06T18:47:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T18:47:40 < Steffanx> is it legal is your state Rob235? 2016-08-06T18:47:45 < Rob235> It is not 2016-08-06T18:47:48 < Tectu> I never left you, crt <3 2016-08-06T18:47:51 < Steffanx> do you crt? 2016-08-06T18:48:07 < Tectu> I bet Steffanx does, netherlands... 2016-08-06T18:48:42 < Steffanx> i never smoked anything. 2016-08-06T18:49:57 < Rob235> I'm going to do a dab and see if it helps with this pain, its a medical experiment, no judging! 2016-08-06T18:50:05 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-06T18:52:39 < Tectu> anyone wanna have fun? 2016-08-06T18:52:55 < zyp> girls just wanna have fun 2016-08-06T18:53:41 < Tectu> experience? 2016-08-06T18:54:10 < zyp> never heard the song? 2016-08-06T18:54:37 < Rob235> they just wanna, they just wannnnaaaaaaaa 2016-08-06T18:54:43 < Steffanx> Damn Tectu, you disappointed me. How often you try "Hello" and you dont knnow this one? 2016-08-06T18:55:09 < Steffanx> And there is more, but i dont remember which one 2016-08-06T18:56:16 < Tectu> try "hello"? I have no idea what you're talking about 2016-08-06T18:57:14 < Steffanx> Oh, maybe i mixed you up with someone else, sorry. 2016-08-06T18:59:31 < Steffanx> rodeo? 2016-08-06T18:59:49 < Rob235> I know what I'll do... I'll solder all the wires today 2016-08-06T19:00:02 < Rob235> get rid of these shitty female jumper wires 2016-08-06T19:00:51 < Tectu> no broplem, Steffanx 2016-08-06T19:01:34 < ReadError> Rob235 soldering may be less reliable 2016-08-06T19:01:40 < Rob235> how so? 2016-08-06T19:01:43 < ReadError> the wire absorbs solder 2016-08-06T19:01:48 < ReadError> and vibrations can crack it 2016-08-06T19:02:27 < Rob235> why is there always a damn problem with everything hah 2016-08-06T19:02:45 < ReadError> best practices 2016-08-06T19:04:00 < Tectu> how old are you, crt? 2016-08-06T19:04:09 < Tectu> like 29+1? 2016-08-06T19:04:20 < Tectu> okay 2016-08-06T19:04:22 < Tectu> base 10 that is? 2016-08-06T19:04:36 < Tectu> okay :) 2016-08-06T19:05:16 < mitrax_> Tectu: fuck you, i was going to make the "yeah he's 0x30" joke :( 2016-08-06T19:05:57 < Tectu> love you too, mitrax_ :* 2016-08-06T19:07:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T19:08:23 < Steffanx> No way you are that old. 2016-08-06T19:08:49 < Tectu> show pic 2016-08-06T19:11:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T19:12:09 < Tectu> milk 2016-08-06T19:12:12 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-06T19:13:02 < Rob235> Does a body good 2016-08-06T19:13:45 < Tectu> I furgut how to nigga 2016-08-06T19:13:57 < Tectu> oh lol 2016-08-06T19:14:00 < Tectu> I didn't even notice :D 2016-08-06T19:15:12 < Rob235> you're silly... it's morning 2016-08-06T19:15:17 < Rob235> ;) 2016-08-06T19:15:20 < ReadError> yea dongs is only chatting on the other network 2016-08-06T19:15:24 < ReadError> guess hes hiding 2016-08-06T19:15:31 < Steffanx> Hiding from o6? 2016-08-06T19:15:33 < Steffanx> fbi? 2016-08-06T19:15:54 < ReadError> eh who am I to judge 2016-08-06T19:15:57 < Tectu> it's fucking afternoon, stop talking non-sense people 2016-08-06T19:16:06 < Steffanx> Yes its 18:16 2016-08-06T19:16:10 < Rob235> oh it just turned afternoon 2016-08-06T19:16:16 < Tectu> nah, probably he finally felt for pokemon go and is walking the streets of japan now 2016-08-06T19:17:29 < Steffanx> Time to grab a movie, a beer and call it a night now crt 2016-08-06T19:17:55 < Tectu> how old is it there, crt? 2016-08-06T19:17:56 < Tectu> late* 2016-08-06T19:18:13 < Rob235> 12:18 2016-08-06T19:18:17 < Tectu> 16:18 2016-08-06T19:18:29 < Fleck> 19:18 2016-08-06T19:18:49 < Tectu> crt, australia has some regions that do quarter hour timezones, right? 2016-08-06T19:20:31 < Tectu> ah yeah 2016-08-06T19:20:31 < Tectu> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Australia 2016-08-06T19:21:30 < Tectu> how are the kengurus today? 2016-08-06T19:22:32 < Tectu> is that common knowledge taught at schools? 2016-08-06T19:23:57 < Tectu> what do you remember? :) 2016-08-06T19:25:12 < Tectu> also, don't you have to work tomorrow/today? 2016-08-06T19:27:36 < Tectu> what's your job if I may ask? 2016-08-06T19:29:01 < Fleck> repairing crts? :DDD 2016-08-06T19:29:31 < Tectu> crt, what kind of repairs? 2016-08-06T19:29:41 < Tectu> relationships? 2016-08-06T19:30:07 < Tectu> aah 2016-08-06T19:30:12 < Tectu> so monster cables much? 2016-08-06T19:30:39 < Tectu> "pro audio" == "monster cables" :D 2016-08-06T19:30:57 < Tectu> (just trollin') 2016-08-06T19:31:45 < Tectu> pizza time 2016-08-06T19:33:35 < Tectu> :] 2016-08-06T19:33:40 < Tectu> explain that to Steffanx 2016-08-06T19:38:11 < Tectu> what are you up to right now? 2016-08-06T19:39:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.209] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T19:39:35 < Tectu> how come you never do anything stm32 related? 2016-08-06T19:39:43 -!- trezer [~smuxi@114.125.171.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-06T19:41:06 < Tectu> arduino clone 2016-08-06T19:41:36 < Tectu> ot a dongs 2016-08-06T19:42:17 < Tectu> for Mr. Rob235 ? 2016-08-06T19:42:48 < Tectu> yeah but his frame consists of almost nothing but LEDs 2016-08-06T19:42:48 < Rob235> hah 2016-08-06T19:43:03 < Tectu> probably just 5mm LEDs glued together 2016-08-06T19:43:07 < Rob235> its only 84 leds 2016-08-06T19:43:13 < Tectu> -__- 2016-08-06T19:43:27 < Tectu> better write uGFX driver and display PNG images and anti-aliased fonts 2016-08-06T19:43:50 < Tectu> then troll some trollblog 2016-08-06T19:43:52 < Tectu> get money 2016-08-06T19:43:54 < Tectu> success. 2016-08-06T19:43:58 < Tectu> buy real copter afterwards 2016-08-06T19:44:01 < Rob235> for some strange reason I don't think the leds are close enough for that 2016-08-06T19:44:27 < Rob235> I'll turn my hex into a POV clock 2016-08-06T19:44:35 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-06T19:44:38 < Tectu> that would be fancy 2016-08-06T19:45:03 < Tectu> you mean lazerz? 2016-08-06T19:45:14 < Tectu> like co2? 2016-08-06T19:54:43 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T19:55:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.174] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-06T20:00:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-06T20:01:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T20:05:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-06T20:23:48 < Laurenceb__> When you use this command, the device enters low-power, deep sleep mode (<2 mA) 2016-08-06T20:23:52 < Laurenceb__> yay bluetooth 2016-08-06T20:24:38 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T20:27:32 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-06T20:28:13 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-06T20:28:35 < Laurenceb__> https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/38918548.jpg 2016-08-06T20:38:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.209] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T20:43:29 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T20:51:05 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-06T20:55:33 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-06T20:55:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T20:55:57 -!- Amperture [~Amp@24-136-5-183.c3-0.fld-ubr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T21:00:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T21:19:20 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.24] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T21:34:15 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T21:49:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T21:50:22 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T21:54:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-06T22:09:33 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-06T22:12:14 -!- ldxx [~kvirc@host-176-37-113-74.la.net.ua] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2016-08-06T22:26:56 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-06T22:35:43 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-06T22:41:14 -!- chipsMonstret_ [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmfkctxpnnujvvtq] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T22:43:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T22:44:15 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pankxzvyggylgoma] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-06T22:44:16 -!- chipsMonstret_ is now known as chipsMonstret 2016-08-06T22:48:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-06T23:01:10 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775753.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-06T23:04:27 < Steffanx> So dongs really hasn't spoken since the 2nd of august. Damn.. 2016-08-06T23:04:53 < upgrdman> :( 2016-08-06T23:04:58 < Steffanx> torrentz.eu gone, dongs gone.. where does it go with this world? 2016-08-06T23:05:19 < upgrdman> KAT gone too 2016-08-06T23:05:29 < Steffanx> yes, but that was way before he left. 2016-08-06T23:05:45 < upgrdman> ya but i didnt realize until after he left ;) 2016-08-06T23:05:52 < Steffanx> haha 2016-08-06T23:14:45 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae3bd.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T23:15:01 < Ecco> well TPB is still here 2016-08-06T23:23:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.148.24] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T23:24:21 < Laurenceb__> hopefully he isn't dead like happened in #highaltitude 2016-08-06T23:36:04 < Steffanx> what happened in #highaltitude Laurenceb__? 2016-08-06T23:36:41 < Laurenceb__> someone died whilst logged in and people were pinging them for days 2016-08-06T23:36:52 < Steffanx> who died i was to ask. 2016-08-06T23:37:36 < Steffanx> when dongs died he will be logged in forever probably. 2016-08-06T23:38:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T23:38:31 < Steffanx> and when did this happen? Probably ages ago? 2016-08-06T23:38:33 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-06T23:38:42 < zyp> hmm, one of my friends who died a couple of months ago is still online on irc 2016-08-06T23:39:46 < jon1012> :-/ 2016-08-06T23:41:58 -!- bvsh_ [~bvsh@162.222.147.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T23:42:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-06T23:42:56 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@162.222.147.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T23:42:56 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@162.222.147.184] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-06T23:42:56 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-06T23:46:22 < BrainDamage> he could be simply on vacation 2016-08-06T23:46:40 < LeelooMinai> I have a small stm32l432KC-based design and cannot pinpoint a problem with it. Cannot program it with j-link. It sees it, car read id, etc and even erase, but programming never succeeds. Maybe someone has some thoughts? 2016-08-06T23:46:44 < zyp> or doing useful stuff instead of dicking around on irc 2016-08-06T23:46:54 < Steffanx> Impossible. Probably forced to foxcon more. 2016-08-06T23:47:28 < LeelooMinai> I probed the rail at each pin btw, and the supply is stable. 2016-08-06T23:47:43 < LeelooMinai> Also scoped the reset line - seems to work fine. 2016-08-06T23:48:11 < LeelooMinai> I even replaced the uC - same story. 2016-08-06T23:48:52 < LeelooMinai> I also assembled two of those... 2016-08-06T23:49:07 < LeelooMinai> By this point I ran out of ideas - it's pretty weird. 2016-08-06T23:50:30 < LeelooMinai> I don't think flash is protected too - I looked at "option bytes" for it and they have AA there, which suggest level 0 or no protection. 2016-08-06T23:50:51 < zyp> are you sure your programmer is sane? 2016-08-06T23:51:03 < upgrdman> LeelooMinai, could you try an stlink and the official stlink software to erase and flash the bin? 2016-08-06T23:51:06 < LeelooMinai> Yes, it works with dev boards. 2016-08-06T23:51:13 < upgrdman> just to see if the problem is the mcu or the jlink 2016-08-06T23:51:20 < upgrdman> or settings 2016-08-06T23:51:33 < LeelooMinai> Right, that's the other thing - I tried stlink and this one cannot handle the detection at all. 2016-08-06T23:52:03 < LeelooMinai> jlink at least can talk to the uC and besides the programming problem, is fine otherwise. 2016-08-06T23:52:09 < upgrdman> hmm. reset line flaky? ass a pull up? 2016-08-06T23:52:12 < upgrdman> err add* 2016-08-06T23:52:17 < zyp> what supply voltage is it running at? 3.3V? 2016-08-06T23:52:25 < zyp> upgrdman, unlikely 2016-08-06T23:52:30 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-06T23:52:31 < zyp> swd works during reset 2016-08-06T23:52:40 < LeelooMinai> I tried 3.0V, 2.2V. 3.4V - same thing 2016-08-06T23:52:51 < LeelooMinai> 3.3V* 2016-08-06T23:53:12 < zyp> could there be anything on the board interfering with the swd lines? 2016-08-06T23:53:27 < LeelooMinai> I looked at the reset line with a scope - looked ok. And jlink can reset the uC> 2016-08-06T23:53:53 < LeelooMinai> Well, but if there was something interfering how could jlink read memory, talk to uC, etc. 2016-08-06T23:54:23 < zyp> noise 2016-08-06T23:54:31 < LeelooMinai> Those line are pretty much going straight up to the connector. 2016-08-06T23:54:52 < LeelooMinai> They are not used for anything else. 2016-08-06T23:56:11 < LeelooMinai> The silence tells me that I am screwed:) 2016-08-06T23:56:22 < zyp> the dev boards you mention, are they also based on the same chip? 2016-08-06T23:56:35 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: do you have a -d3 log of openocd trying to program it? 2016-08-06T23:58:21 < LeelooMinai> Well, kind of. They are marked as stm32l432 Nucelo 32, but the IC there has printed stm32l432C6U - no idea what that is, mine are 32l432KC as in the datasheets 2016-08-06T23:58:55 < LeelooMinai> PaulFertser: I don't use opencd - J-link EDU and tried st-link (detached from some nucelo board) 2016-08-06T23:58:57 < zyp> different package and flash amount 2016-08-06T23:59:49 < LeelooMinai> From the docs C means 256KB flash, so should be the same. --- Day changed Sun Aug 07 2016 2016-08-07T00:00:12 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ae3bd.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-07T00:00:16 < zyp> you just said the other one was 6 2016-08-07T00:00:21 < zyp> the C means 48 pins 2016-08-07T00:00:52 < LeelooMinai> Not according to this: http://i.imgur.com/ZBFY3uQ.png 2016-08-07T00:01:05 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: probably openocd would produce some additional clues... 2016-08-07T00:01:33 < LeelooMinai> Right, but openocd + what hardware? 2016-08-07T00:01:49 < zyp> I believe both jlink and stlink is supported 2016-08-07T00:01:59 < zyp> so you could try both 2016-08-07T00:02:41 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, right, I guess I will try - though last time I used it was 3 years ago and it was not working well then.. 2016-08-07T00:03:06 < zyp> a lot of stuff happens in three years 2016-08-07T00:03:54 < LeelooMinai> With open source, usually not for + though:p 2016-08-07T00:08:06 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: come on! 2016-08-07T00:08:17 < zyp> haha 2016-08-07T00:09:48 < PaulFertser> If LeelooMinai knows how much effort I put into OpenOCD these years then it's pro-trolling indeed. 2016-08-07T00:11:19 < LeelooMinai> I was just making observation in general:) Who knows, maybe it is wonderful now - I will find out soon I guess... 2016-08-07T00:12:16 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: please get me a -d3 log before I fall asleep 2016-08-07T00:12:46 < LeelooMinai> Right, I have to install the thing and reconnect some cabling, etc. 2016-08-07T00:12:47 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad401.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T00:16:14 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-07T00:16:30 < Laurenceb__> how can I dis-assemble an arm binary ? 2016-08-07T00:16:49 < LeelooMinai> Ok, I am at this stage already: http://i.imgur.com/u1rQ5yd.png 2016-08-07T00:17:21 < LeelooMinai> I guess I need some options to flag that j-link is used and proper uC 2016-08-07T00:17:53 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.128.96.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T00:18:10 < LeelooMinai> "interface jlink" seems 2016-08-07T00:19:08 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: objdump works 2016-08-07T00:19:14 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-07T00:19:29 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: ^ 2016-08-07T00:19:34 < LeelooMinai> Laurenceb__: Someone told me that objdump works 2016-08-07T00:19:48 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: I think it's a bit easier to start with plain openocd, without eclipse. 2016-08-07T00:19:49 < Laurenceb__> yeah but what arguments does it need for binary? 2016-08-07T00:20:17 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: just openocd -f interface/jlink.cfg -f target/stm32f1x.cfg -c "program /path/to/my/elf.elf verify reset exit" 2016-08-07T00:20:39 < PaulFertser> Change f1x appropriately to your target 2016-08-07T00:21:02 < LeelooMinai> I have 0.9.0 it seems - is it new enough? 2016-08-07T00:21:48 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, do not see l4 in targets 2016-08-07T00:22:11 < LeelooMinai> It's kind of newish I guess 2016-08-07T00:22:33 < Fleck> source [find target/stm32l4x.cfg] << using on 0.10.0 2016-08-07T00:22:40 < Fleck> works! 2016-08-07T00:22:51 < LeelooMinai> But... http://openocd.org/ 2016-08-07T00:23:00 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: was added post 0.9.0, in v0.9.0-104-gf3be0f6 2016-08-07T00:23:02 < Fleck> yeah, snapshot :) 2016-08-07T00:23:08 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: so try current git HEAD, yes 2016-08-07T00:23:13 < PaulFertser> Fleck++ 2016-08-07T00:23:38 < Fleck> cheers PaulFertser! :) 2016-08-07T00:23:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T00:24:22 < Laurenceb__> Invalid bfd target 2016-08-07T00:24:25 < Laurenceb__> wtf is going on 2016-08-07T00:25:08 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: try arm-none-eabi-objdump 2016-08-07T00:25:20 < Laurenceb__> I am doing 2016-08-07T00:26:32 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: what exactly are you trying to disassemble, in what format is it? 2016-08-07T00:26:43 < Laurenceb__> arm-none-eabi-objdump -b binary -marm -D SP1ML-868_FW_1.04.bin -Mforce-thumb 2016-08-07T00:26:56 < Laurenceb__> SP1ML firmware, ^ that command worked 2016-08-07T00:32:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T00:34:21 < LeelooMinai> Ok: http://i.imgur.com/NbU3Op8.png 2016-08-07T00:34:37 < LeelooMinai> I guess I need to put that transport select swd somewhere 2016-08-07T00:34:59 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: you also need to install WinUSB (via Zadig) for jlink. 2016-08-07T00:35:04 < LeelooMinai> Also, hmm, right... 2016-08-07T00:35:22 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: -c "transport select swd" inbetween interface and target config sourcing. 2016-08-07T00:36:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-07T00:37:31 < LeelooMinai> http://i.imgur.com/zg4umup.png 2016-08-07T00:37:32 < Laurenceb__> interesting 2016-08-07T00:37:43 < Laurenceb__> NAN.nan and INF.inf in the binary as strings 2016-08-07T00:38:05 < LeelooMinai> Probably for formatting (?) 2016-08-07T00:40:46 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: you can add 0x435 to src/flash/nor/stm32l4x.c in stm32l4_probe() 2016-08-07T00:40:47 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-07T00:41:07 < LeelooMinai> I got past that, just a sec 2016-08-07T00:42:01 < LeelooMinai> http://pastebin.com/a6xDRNyh 2016-08-07T00:43:19 < Laurenceb__> lul it has floating point printf 2016-08-07T00:44:06 < Laurenceb__> individual function for each AT command 2016-08-07T00:44:11 < Laurenceb__> this looks a bit lame 2016-08-07T00:44:44 < LeelooMinai> After reading openocd debug output my tooth started to hurt 2016-08-07T00:44:49 < Laurenceb__> but looks like 1.03 and 1.04 used different compiler versions 2016-08-07T00:45:09 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-07T00:46:08 < LeelooMinai> I don't know what's going on there. It's not total fail, but things like "Failed to read memory at 0xe000ed00" are probably not good (?) 2016-08-07T00:48:29 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: do you have reset hw line connected? 2016-08-07T00:48:53 < LeelooMinai> Semms so. 2016-08-07T00:49:02 < PaulFertser> Is it pulled low probably? 2016-08-07T00:49:07 < PaulFertser> For whatever reason 2016-08-07T00:49:19 < PaulFertser> I can't guess why it might be giving WAITs otherwise. 2016-08-07T00:49:19 < LeelooMinai> There's 10n cap to the gnd on it and that's all 2016-08-07T00:51:02 < PaulFertser> Hm, I'd try "adapter_khz 100" before program. 2016-08-07T00:51:18 < PaulFertser> In case it's too slow by default. 2016-08-07T00:51:47 < PaulFertser> Ah, it boosts to 4000 anyway on reset-init. 2016-08-07T00:52:23 < PaulFertser> So if you want to play with it, change it in stm32l4x.cfg 2016-08-07T00:53:45 < LeelooMinai> Added it on the command line: http://pastebin.com/riszwS5p 2016-08-07T00:53:49 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: if you have reset line connected to your adapter I'd recommend "reset_config srst_only connect_assert_srts" to avoid possible influnce by the target firmware. 2016-08-07T00:55:34 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: the last paste shows you're able to halt just fine, but those WAITs are surfacing. I'd try editing stm32l4x.cfg first to pinpoint the issue. 2016-08-07T00:56:11 < LeelooMinai> Right, editing with that reset_config line? 2016-08-07T00:58:25 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tnexdyrobhbxnzlf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T00:59:14 < LeelooMinai> Keep seeing that "Failed to read memory at 0xe0042000" 2016-08-07T00:59:17 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: no, adapter_khz 4000 to adapter_khz 100 2016-08-07T00:59:31 < LeelooMinai> Right, changed that too 2016-08-07T01:02:30 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: I'd try with srst_only connect_assert_srst too. Can you show a log with that + adapter_khz 100 in reset-init? 2016-08-07T01:03:11 < LeelooMinai> Am I editing this right? http://i.imgur.com/bTdAj9V.png 2016-08-07T01:03:53 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: adapter_khz , no, I suggest editing it in reset-init handler. reset_config you can add to the command line before program. 2016-08-07T01:04:06 < LeelooMinai> Because wutg tgus U get some unknown reset_config flag 2016-08-07T01:04:16 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-07T01:04:48 < LeelooMinai> What did I type... 2016-08-07T01:04:50 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: srts vs srst 2016-08-07T01:07:06 < LeelooMinai> http://pastebin.com/RzpLgmR5 2016-08-07T01:08:10 < LeelooMinai> Now I see there's "Cannot identify target as a STM32L4 family." at the end 2016-08-07T01:08:43 < LeelooMinai> Device id looks a bit weird too 2016-08-07T01:09:08 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: try adding 0x435 to the flash driver 2016-08-07T01:09:30 < PaulFertser> 0x415 is there, but your part is newer 2016-08-07T01:09:52 < LeelooMinai> Ok, so where exactly do I add that? 2016-08-07T01:10:14 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: src/flash/nor/stm32l4x.c 2016-08-07T01:10:41 < LeelooMinai> I am on windows though - would need to recompile? 2016-08-07T01:11:02 < PaulFertser> Yep 2016-08-07T01:11:27 < PaulFertser> You can recompile on windows easily with https://sourceforge.net/p/msys2/wiki/Contributing%20to%20MSYS2/ 2016-08-07T01:13:01 < LeelooMinai> "I knew I should not order those new uCs.." 2016-08-07T01:13:25 < kakimir> hello professionals 2016-08-07T01:14:29 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: OpenOCD build should be pretty painless on all the supported platforms 2016-08-07T01:15:08 < LeelooMinai> Right... 2016-08-07T01:16:53 < LeelooMinai> Which is the "new" github place? 2016-08-07T01:17:42 < LeelooMinai> I see some ntfreat fork or maybe not fork... 2016-08-07T01:17:47 < LeelooMinai> ntfreak* 2016-08-07T01:18:46 < karlp> http://openocd.org/getting-openocd/ says nothing about github... 2016-08-07T01:26:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T01:30:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T01:32:54 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T01:35:05 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T01:43:05 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-07T01:44:27 -!- bvsh [~bvsh@unaffiliated/bvsh] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T02:01:50 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.128.96.47] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T02:02:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T02:05:47 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.128.96.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T02:18:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-07T02:20:41 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T02:25:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-07T02:44:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T03:02:34 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T03:04:58 < jadew> have you guys noticed how gay men sing less annoying than straight males? 2016-08-07T03:05:31 < jadew> I was listening to the radio and heard an Adele cover, by what sounded like Anthony and the Johnsons (the guy is gay) 2016-08-07T03:06:18 < jadew> it sounded awesome, but google couldn't help, and instead I found a ton of covers by various male singers 2016-08-07T03:06:23 < jadew> couldn't believe how gay it sounded 2016-08-07T03:06:27 < jadew> like... bad gay 2016-08-07T03:07:45 < jadew> ex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzC2-GJu1Q8 2016-08-07T03:08:02 < aandrew> there seems to be a trend lately of men singing pretty much in falsetto being "in" 2016-08-07T03:08:05 < aandrew> drives me insane 2016-08-07T03:08:31 < aandrew> LeelooMinai: I've never heard anthing about a new github 2016-08-07T03:08:39 < jadew> I just can't listen to anything involving men squeaking like little bitches 2016-08-07T03:08:46 < aandrew> jadew: precisely 2016-08-07T03:12:27 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tnexdyrobhbxnzlf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-07T03:16:24 < jadew> I hate soldering QFN by hand 2016-08-07T03:17:03 < jadew> I have to change the heat gun's head, it's too narrow and the lowest fan setting it still blows the part off of the board 2016-08-07T03:17:28 < LeelooMinai> decided to cross-compile openocd on Debian for Windows, but get this: "/usr/bin/i686-w64-mingw32-ld: cannot find -lusb-1.0" 2016-08-07T03:17:38 < LeelooMinai> I installed usb and usb-dev:/ 2016-08-07T03:18:13 < jadew> really, that's how it reports it? 2016-08-07T03:18:24 < jadew> I would have expected something like can't find libusb-1.0 2016-08-07T03:18:39 < jadew> is it possible you're passing that entire thing as the name of a library? 2016-08-07T03:18:45 < LeelooMinai> Yes, that's now it reports it: http://i.imgur.com/KiUhkls.png 2016-08-07T03:19:21 < LeelooMinai> I am not passing anything - I installed pre-requisite packages, and run configure/make 2016-08-07T03:19:45 < jadew> maybe it's not in the library paths? 2016-08-07T03:20:04 < LeelooMinai> Shouldn't the libtool thing find it? 2016-08-07T03:20:48 < jadew> can you find it? 2016-08-07T03:21:00 < LeelooMinai> Well, I see it with locate 2016-08-07T03:21:32 < LeelooMinai> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-1.0.so.0 2016-08-07T03:21:36 < LeelooMinai> Seems to sit there... 2016-08-07T03:24:58 < jadew> if you can't find the answer on google, I guess you'll have to figure out if the linker gets the correct paths 2016-08-07T03:25:22 < jadew> welcome to the world of opensource operating systems 2016-08-07T03:31:05 < jadew> how to use opensource stuff in a nutshell: 1) Google for the issue you're having. 2.a) If you found a solution, copy paste some lines in the command prompt or edit some config file you didn't even know existed. Does it work? Yes - yey *nix is great. No - go to 1). 2.b) If you didn't find a solution RTFM, figure out there are other things involved you don't understand, so RTFM of those tools too, then sort through other people's garbage and find out a comm 2016-08-07T03:32:07 < zyp> jadew, yeah, qfn is shit to work with 2016-08-07T03:32:38 < jadew> zyp, hehe, thanks for reminding me, forgot I was doing it cuz I set the heat gun down to cool, so I can replace the head 2016-08-07T03:33:04 < zyp> then again, I don't like working with heat guns either 2016-08-07T03:33:46 < jadew> I had to populate this thing in steps so I can test it at various points 2016-08-07T03:34:07 < jadew> I would have probable used the oven otherwise 2016-08-07T03:34:17 < jadew> probably 2016-08-07T03:36:09 < zyp> partial assembly sounds annoying too :p 2016-08-07T03:36:34 < zyp> what have you fucked up to require doing that? :p 2016-08-07T03:37:29 < jadew> it's a RF thing and the previous version didn't perform too well, I want to make sure that if there's a mistake, I know which block caused it 2016-08-07T03:38:04 < jadew> *I know in which block it is 2016-08-07T03:38:11 < jadew> (because I, obviously, caused it) 2016-08-07T03:39:18 < aandrew> LeelooMinai: that picture suggests that the command line given to gcc is incorrect 2016-08-07T03:39:50 < aandrew> although the command line shown there looks about right 2016-08-07T03:39:55 < zyp> jadew, how about tearing down a fully assembled board instead? :p 2016-08-07T03:40:22 < aandrew> offhand, why on earth do you paste pictures of text? it's impossible for me to select it and throw it into google with a few guesses to try to help you 2016-08-07T03:41:14 < jadew> zyp, it's not that easy, cuz you have to remove more components otherwise you get leakage from other parts 2016-08-07T03:41:43 < zyp> could be, guess it depends on what you're doing 2016-08-07T03:42:02 < jadew> yeah, it's kind of high frequency and it gets easily messed up 2016-08-07T03:42:36 < jadew> it's a bit above my head tbh, because I don't yet understand some things 2016-08-07T03:44:28 < jadew> it's also on FR-4 so I don't know how much to blame on poor dielectric performance, poor component characteristics and poor design on my part 2016-08-07T03:44:57 < zyp> what freq is this? 2016-08-07T03:45:04 < jadew> 6 GHz 2016-08-07T03:45:18 < zyp> ah 2016-08-07T03:47:07 < jadew> I had the boards for about a month already but couldn't get the courage to assemble them 2016-08-07T03:47:41 < jadew> well, to assemble one, to see if it's another failure or not 2016-08-07T03:48:01 < zyp> what is it? 2016-08-07T03:48:30 < jadew> can't say now, I'll tell when it's ready 2016-08-07T03:48:57 < jadew> I might make some money off of it, if it performs well 2016-08-07T03:53:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-07T04:02:07 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T04:08:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T04:10:11 < LeelooMinai> I knew it was not a good idea... Followed instructions to use some docker thing and now it is installing half the internet... 2016-08-07T04:11:00 < LeelooMinai> "Because I wanted to add one line to open source software" 2016-08-07T04:11:06 < jadew> what do you need containers for? 2016-08-07T04:11:23 < LeelooMinai> I want to compile it for windows. 2016-08-07T04:11:44 < LeelooMinai> So I am doing this I guess now: http://gnuarmeclipse.github.io/openocd/build-procedure/ 2016-08-07T04:13:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-07T04:18:11 < Laurenceb__> lulwut https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/the-brogrammer-s-guide-to-derailing 2016-08-07T04:19:20 < ReadError> real brogrammers only rail 2016-08-07T04:20:34 < aandrew> heh 2016-08-07T04:20:37 < aandrew> "installing half the internet" 2016-08-07T04:20:46 < aandrew> so that's why my torrents are so slow tonight 2016-08-07T04:23:53 < LeelooMinai> I wonder if this is even what I want. gnuarmeclipse-openocd - that may be not the post 0.9 one (?) 2016-08-07T04:25:03 < ReadError> LeelooMinai chibistudio works 2016-08-07T04:25:08 < ReadError> and has all that stuff 2016-08-07T04:25:38 < aandrew> wtf did I just read Laurenceb__ 2016-08-07T04:25:45 < LeelooMinai> What stuff - my uC is not even supported fully apparently and that's why I need to recompile it... 2016-08-07T04:25:58 < LeelooMinai> I mean openocd 2016-08-07T04:26:25 < ReadError> oh read it as gnuarmeclipse 2016-08-07T04:26:28 < LeelooMinai> Chibios does not really support it too, but I got it to work 2016-08-07T04:26:40 < ReadError> and openocd 2016-08-07T04:26:59 < Laurenceb__> aandrew: Poe teir stupidity 2016-08-07T04:27:19 < Laurenceb__> SJW is the new Alex Jones/Timecube 2016-08-07T04:28:37 < ReadError> that doesnt make any sense 2016-08-07T04:29:43 < jadew> that's probably because you don't go to youtube to get your fill of rage and hatred 2016-08-07T04:30:17 < aandrew> I tend to stay off youtube 2016-08-07T04:30:36 < aandrew> I sometimes think that giving everyone their own printing press was a bad idea 2016-08-07T04:31:07 < jadew> yeah, not all ideas are worth sharing 2016-08-07T04:31:28 < jadew> in fact, some shouldn't be shared at all because they make idiots into bigger idiots 2016-08-07T04:31:30 * LeelooMinai wonders if nowedays Social Injustice Warriors are cooler or something 2016-08-07T04:32:30 < jadew> I made the mistake of clicking on a "Flat earth" video 2016-08-07T04:32:36 < jadew> now my stream is poisoned with that crap 2016-08-07T04:34:16 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, an openocd.exe has hatched - I guess that's progress 2016-08-07T04:34:53 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T04:36:23 < LeelooMinai> Yes, in desperation 2016-08-07T04:37:29 < LeelooMinai> O, it's avtually 0.10.0-dev 2016-08-07T04:37:40 < LeelooMinai> So maybe it was not a waste of time 2016-08-07T04:40:22 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, I do not see flash/nor/stm32l4x.c in the source there though:/ 2016-08-07T04:40:55 < LeelooMinai> Let me guess - it's a fork of some other fork, et. 2016-08-07T04:45:03 < jadew> I'm planning to release an opensource project soon and I'm going to prohibit forking 2016-08-07T04:45:51 < LeelooMinai> Wouldn't that make it non open source? ... 2016-08-07T04:46:03 < jadew> by who's definition? 2016-08-07T04:46:34 < Laurenceb__> lul @ right hand side of youtube full of flat earth 2016-08-07T04:48:50 < jadew> so which is which? 2016-08-07T04:49:04 < jadew> I think it's stupid to assign more meaning to open source than what it actually means 2016-08-07T04:49:07 < jadew> open sources 2016-08-07T04:49:18 < jadew> precisely 2016-08-07T04:49:43 < LeelooMinai> "open source, and we will sue you" 2016-08-07T04:50:46 < jadew> most projects don't benefit from forking at all 2016-08-07T04:51:39 < jadew> few of the contributions make it back and those that do, you might not even want them in 2016-08-07T04:52:04 < jadew> so you end up with two branches, dividing the userbase 2016-08-07T04:52:19 < jadew> well, or more branches 2016-08-07T04:54:00 < jadew> not really, it would be the same if windows 10buntu was a fork by the opensource folks 2016-08-07T04:54:13 < jadew> that did a bunch of extra stuff that everyone needs, but it doesn't do them well 2016-08-07T04:54:56 < jadew> if the same entity releases a new version, it's just that, a new version 2016-08-07T04:55:14 < jadew> remember lindows? 2016-08-07T04:55:39 < jadew> when wine came out, someoene tried to make a whole OS around it 2016-08-07T04:56:04 < jadew> it got a lot of hype "An OS that can run both windows and linux applications!" 2016-08-07T04:56:37 < jadew> they actually made something, but as you may already know, wine is not windows 2016-08-07T04:56:47 < jadew> still has issues with legacy programs 2016-08-07T05:00:38 < jadew> my youtube autoplay drifted into a dark place 2016-08-07T05:01:36 < jadew> I was listening to some music and now I get devil's trill sonata in G minor and Chopin's Marcha funebre 2016-08-07T05:02:30 < jadew> next up is The isle of the dead by Rachmaninov (whoever this guy is) 2016-08-07T05:03:01 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T05:04:16 < jadew> didn't 2016-08-07T05:04:53 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T05:07:34 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-07T05:43:24 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.128.96.47] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-07T05:44:48 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.132.97.20] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T05:57:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T06:01:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T06:24:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T06:27:33 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T06:30:41 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-07T06:50:40 -!- anton02 [~quassel@1.132.97.20] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-07T06:51:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T06:52:07 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T06:55:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-07T06:56:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-07T06:59:02 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/aVSD6hH.jpg 2016-08-07T07:04:43 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T07:25:52 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-07T07:45:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T07:50:04 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T08:11:04 < PeterM> upgrdman, that thing bust be so goddamn heavy 2016-08-07T08:13:06 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-07T08:13:16 < upgrdman> ya i bet it is 2016-08-07T08:15:11 < OneSploit> Good morning 2016-08-07T08:19:58 -!- trezer [~smuxi@114.125.168.74] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T08:32:55 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: no, the file I mentioned is upstream in master branch. 2016-08-07T08:33:09 < PaulFertser> LeelooMinai: no forks of forks 2016-08-07T08:34:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T08:34:51 -!- trezer [~smuxi@114.125.168.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-07T08:39:27 < anton02> is that truck a magnet 2016-08-07T08:39:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T08:44:28 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-07T08:44:31 < jadew> time for bed, my issue makes no sense 2016-08-07T08:49:43 < ReadError> this is my dong song, it aint every long but guaranteed to get the job done, poke one, what the fak u waiting on 2016-08-07T08:50:10 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXDC_U84zI 2016-08-07T08:50:21 < ReadError> lol they made a vid 10 years after the song came out 2016-08-07T08:53:24 < ReadError> crt word on the streets is the great pumper music producer vap0r is going to collab with ytcracker on some new pumptunes 2016-08-07T08:54:20 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T08:56:38 < ReadError> https://soundcloud.com/ytcracker/ytcracker-hacker-music 2016-08-07T08:57:21 < ReadError> my squad stay turnt sweep the SDR 2016-08-07T08:57:21 < ReadError> with a replay attack to straight grease your car 2016-08-07T08:57:21 < ReadError> we do it all 2016-08-07T08:57:21 < ReadError> hardware software espace meatspace 2016-08-07T09:00:44 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-07T09:02:49 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/RVhbfiE.png http://i.imgur.com/FHPeRjh.png PeterM 2016-08-07T09:06:03 < aandrew> ReadError: what's that? 2016-08-07T09:06:18 < ReadError> kawaii charger 2016-08-07T09:07:54 < ReadError> magnet goes on the round pad on the back 2016-08-07T09:08:14 < ReadError> then a wireleaded magnet will go on the other pad and wrap around the little coiling thing 2016-08-07T09:16:01 -!- ldxx [~kvirc@host-176-37-113-74.la.net.ua] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T09:28:22 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-07T09:33:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T09:38:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-07T09:52:09 < ReadError> http://www.adorama.com/ssgu24e590d.html 2016-08-07T09:52:11 < ReadError> fuck damn 2016-08-07T09:52:13 < ReadError> $250 2016-08-07T09:52:22 < ReadError> 4k, 60hurtz 2016-08-07T09:52:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-07T09:52:32 < ReadError> a real brand too 2016-08-07T09:57:41 < upgrdman> wtf is "PLS" display type 2016-08-07T09:57:51 < upgrdman> guessing its not IPS for that price :( 2016-08-07T09:58:19 < upgrdman> also looks like no VESA mount :/ 2016-08-07T09:58:31 < ReadError> I duno about 24" and 4K either 2016-08-07T09:58:39 < ReadError> seems like shit would be tiny 2016-08-07T09:59:10 < upgrdman> i like 24" and 27" 4k, but i use display scaling 2016-08-07T09:59:21 < ReadError> can you scale monitors different 2016-08-07T09:59:25 < ReadError> in windows 2016-08-07T09:59:32 < upgrdman> ya 2016-08-07T09:59:41 < ReadError> oh nice, thats useful then 2016-08-07T09:59:42 < upgrdman> but its weird, cause msft can't do shit properly 2016-08-07T09:59:43 < upgrdman> like 2016-08-07T09:59:51 < ReadError> oh? 2016-08-07T09:59:54 < upgrdman> mouse speed is different, its like pixel based :) 2016-08-07T10:00:00 < ReadError> god damnit 2016-08-07T10:00:05 < upgrdman> so ok 1080 its fast and on 4k its slow 2016-08-07T10:00:14 < upgrdman> ya inorite. lol'd the first time 2016-08-07T10:00:26 < ReadError> thats really going to be a mindfuck then 2016-08-07T10:00:33 < upgrdman> you get used to it 2016-08-07T10:00:45 < upgrdman> well for office shit at least. gamers might rage 2016-08-07T10:01:21 < ReadError> hmmm 2016-08-07T10:01:28 < ReadError> i dont need a monitor really, but 250$ 2016-08-07T10:01:37 < ReadError> so american 2016-08-07T10:01:53 < upgrdman> more annoyingly: windows sizes are remembered in pixels. so like if you open it in the 1080 monitor one day, then in the 4k monitor on another day, default window size is small 2016-08-07T10:02:26 < upgrdman> bbl 2016-08-07T10:05:34 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:06:25 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-08-07T10:13:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.59] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:15:27 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-07T10:19:58 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:22:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:30:03 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofuvzsgusdzbvasl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:36:22 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:44:19 < ReadError> well i grabbed 2 of them 2016-08-07T10:46:04 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:46:04 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-07T10:46:04 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:50:35 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-07T10:50:44 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T10:51:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-07T11:06:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.221.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-07T11:13:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-0cb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T11:50:44 < upgrdman> ReadError, cool. give us a mini review after getting them 2016-08-07T11:55:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.59] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T12:07:26 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-07T12:31:36 < upgrdman> so i have an old belkin UPS. its designed for two 12V 5Ah batteries (in series) and is rated for 900VA iirc. my load is around 150W, not sure how many VA but guessing <300VA. i want longer battery time. would going with two 12V 20Ah batteries be a bad idea? think it would hurt the charging circuit or overheat the inverter? 2016-08-07T12:36:09 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@1.128.97.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T12:36:49 < ReadError> i dont think it would overheat the inverter 2016-08-07T12:36:58 < ReadError> voltage is the same 2016-08-07T12:37:13 < ReadError> unless its not designed to run very long or some garbage 2016-08-07T12:38:29 < upgrdman> ya theres no fan since its not designed for longer uses 2016-08-07T12:38:53 < upgrdman> i guess i could leave the case off, and check temps of pcb when charging and when dischaging under load. nice app for my flir cam 2016-08-07T12:39:04 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-07T12:40:02 < ReadError> what cam did you ge4t 2016-08-07T12:45:47 < upgrdman> cam? 2016-08-07T12:45:53 < upgrdman> o the flir 2016-08-07T12:46:02 < upgrdman> e4, hacked to e8 resolution 2016-08-07T12:46:38 < upgrdman> kinda near seeing shit like this http://farrellf.com/temp/thermal_image_oscope.jpg 2016-08-07T12:47:14 < upgrdman> s/near/neat 2016-08-07T12:49:43 < upgrdman> lol. found the support page for the software for my old ups, shits been discontinued for a while. "OS compatibility: Windows 98SE, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows XP" 2016-08-07T12:49:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.162.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T12:49:47 < ReadError> did you do it from 2.11 ? 2016-08-07T12:49:56 < upgrdman> fucking winME... havent heard that in ages 2016-08-07T12:50:06 < upgrdman> i dont recall, why? 2016-08-07T12:51:05 < ReadError> oh thats what the new ones are shipping with 2016-08-07T12:51:12 < ReadError> and they support the hacks now 2016-08-07T12:52:57 < upgrdman> oh, did it not work with 2.11 for a while? 2016-08-07T12:53:17 < upgrdman> i bought my e4 maybe 1.5yr ago, hacked it within a week of buying it 2016-08-07T12:53:22 < ReadError> http://joe-c.de/pages/posts/programm_thermovision_joe-c_184.php#Download 2016-08-07T12:53:26 < ReadError> seen this germansoft? 2016-08-07T12:53:39 < ReadError> the spot logging over time is pretty kewl 2016-08-07T12:53:48 < ReadError> http://joe-c.de/media/thermo/dev/thermovision/Thermovision_1.jpg 2016-08-07T12:53:59 < ReadError> but i warn you, shit looks super german 2016-08-07T12:55:43 < upgrdman> hmm neat, works with flirs? 2016-08-07T12:56:38 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-07T12:56:49 < ReadError> those seek cameras too for the android 2016-08-07T12:56:54 < ReadError> you can use them 2016-08-07T12:58:00 < upgrdman> ya i'd prolly buy a seek if i was to buy now, but i got my e4 and its not like i can see it for what i paid :/ 2016-08-07T13:02:25 < Sync> it's pretty ok for the price 2016-08-07T13:11:31 < ReadError> the seek? 2016-08-07T13:12:24 < ReadError> hmm need to find some quality VESA mounts that only tilt 2016-08-07T13:12:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T13:12:45 < ReadError> gotten duped in the past with limp garbage 2016-08-07T13:15:23 < upgrdman> ReadError, for the 4k's? looks like those models have no vesa mount points? 2016-08-07T13:15:37 < ReadError> they do have a mount 2016-08-07T13:15:44 < ReadError> im gonna stack em 2016-08-07T13:15:49 < upgrdman> hidden under cover? 2016-08-07T13:16:15 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7P-XYA6T0k&feature=youtu.be&t=85 2016-08-07T13:16:27 < ReadError> its at the top 2016-08-07T13:16:37 < ReadError> kinda odd space but will be find for my purpose 2016-08-07T13:16:46 < upgrdman> oh, could barely see them in this http://www.adorama.com/images/XLarge/ssgu24e590d_1.jpg 2016-08-07T13:17:19 < ReadError> hah i had to load it on another monitor to see the holes 2016-08-07T13:17:33 < ReadError> this panel it looked all black pretty much 2016-08-07T13:18:18 < upgrdman> :) 2016-08-07T13:18:46 < ReadError> but yea I figure some mounts and some AL extrusions 2016-08-07T13:18:58 < ReadError> can rig up a pretty solid stand 2016-08-07T13:21:40 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-08-07T13:24:53 < ReadError> Arthur Wolf says: 2016-08-07T13:24:53 < ReadError> July 19, 2016 at 8:17 am 2016-08-07T13:24:53 < ReadError> Smoothie has been ported to stm32, so that’s an option for firmware too : http://smoothieware.org/third-party-branches 2016-08-07T13:25:07 < upgrdman> hehe, i wonder if anyone has trolled gamers about the resistance of connectors used on their videos cards and mobos. wonder if anyone went full retard and soldered wires direct. 2016-08-07T13:25:50 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T13:27:16 < ReadError> need to use solder with gold and do it in an inert gas environment 2016-08-07T13:27:55 < ReadError> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/solution-evaluation-tools/computer-and-peripherals-solution-eval-boards/steval-3dp001v1.html i like it 2016-08-07T13:28:01 < ReadError> but 120 is kinda up there 2016-08-07T13:28:40 < Steffanx> the official sores for it: https://github.com/St3dPrinter/Marlin4ST 2016-08-07T13:29:12 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-07T13:29:38 < ReadError> oh the smoothie stm32 shit hasnt been updated for a year almost 2016-08-07T13:29:49 < ReadError> thought he might have had a port for the ST board 2016-08-07T13:32:29 < Steffanx> ask jpa- how he things about smoothie (moslt the devs) first 2016-08-07T13:34:09 < ReadError> ya i got a few smoothies (clones) 2016-08-07T13:34:26 < ReadError> but the acceleration feels so fucky on them 2016-08-07T13:44:30 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-07T13:44:49 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-07T13:57:46 -!- debris` [debris@shells.fnordserver.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-07T14:05:23 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T14:13:19 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-07T14:37:43 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-07T14:38:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T14:41:05 < Steffanx> nice. 2016-08-07T14:41:50 < Steffanx> 2016-08-07T14:45:15 < Steffanx> So what are you up to this sunday crt? 2016-08-07T14:45:51 < Steffanx> Finally went with by beer, movie, call it a night advice? 2016-08-07T14:47:24 < Steffanx> awh 2016-08-07T14:49:11 < ReadError> senpai would suggest schindler's list 2016-08-07T14:49:11 < Steffanx> Angry birds the movie. 2016-08-07T14:49:30 < Steffanx> senpai is dead. 2016-08-07T14:50:34 < Steffanx> Better watch Jimmy Carr Funny Business show crt. 2016-08-07T14:51:16 < ReadError> running badblocks on 16 disk 2016-08-07T14:51:24 < ReadError> gonna take a while it seems 2016-08-07T14:52:23 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/R5GtiTu.png actually damn 2016-08-07T14:52:33 < ReadError> not too bad throughput 2016-08-07T14:53:28 < ReadError> about to get super baked 2016-08-07T14:53:32 < ReadError> u? 2016-08-07T14:53:53 < Steffanx> Good movies you said, crt 2016-08-07T14:55:01 < ReadError> havent you seen alantutorial ? 2016-08-07T14:55:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-07T14:55:53 < Steffanx> wtf os that ReadError 2016-08-07T14:55:55 < Steffanx> is 2016-08-07T14:56:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-07T14:56:19 < ReadError> Steffanx sysrescuecd 2016-08-07T14:56:27 < ReadError> just a live lunix basically 2016-08-07T14:58:31 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjndDIqQ5RY 2016-08-07T14:59:09 < ReadError> ahahahhahaha shits so great 2016-08-07T15:00:23 < Steffanx> not really. 2016-08-07T15:01:12 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sGokXOC-4I 2016-08-07T15:01:16 < ReadError> what about this one :) 2016-08-07T15:02:18 < Steffanx> I never enjoyed level Laurenceb, so no :P 2016-08-07T15:02:42 < ReadError> i mean, arent you sorta curious about the man behind the camera 2016-08-07T15:02:52 < ReadError> like, how the fuck is he alive for one 2016-08-07T15:02:53 < Steffanx> btw, prices of your new screen already went up by $50, ReadError? 2016-08-07T15:03:08 < ReadError> Steffanx theres 2 links, 1 will do 250 2016-08-07T15:03:15 < Steffanx> oh 2016-08-07T15:03:27 < ReadError> http://www.adorama.com/ssgu24e590d.html?sdtid=8981223&emailprice=t&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905 2016-08-07T15:03:29 < Steffanx> Yeah. its like 372 euro here. 2016-08-07T15:03:40 < ReadError> that link should give you $250 2016-08-07T15:04:46 < ReadError> I guess PLS is better than TN 2016-08-07T15:05:04 < ReadError> supposed to be better than IPS 2016-08-07T15:05:08 < ReadError> we'll see 2016-08-07T15:06:41 < ReadError> hmm it can do 60hz over hdmi 2016-08-07T15:06:45 < ReadError> wonder if my card will do that 2016-08-07T15:07:50 < Steffanx> 1080.. 2016-08-07T15:09:07 < ReadError> im not h4rdc0re gaymer 2016-08-07T15:09:11 < ReadError> anymore 2016-08-07T15:09:37 < Steffanx> i believe price/performance the 1070 is best. 2016-08-07T15:14:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T15:18:20 < ReadError> going to try driving both on this 770 2016-08-07T15:18:30 < ReadError> worse case i have to upgrade but think it should be okay 2016-08-07T15:20:56 < Steffanx> Good excuse to upgrade ;) 2016-08-07T15:22:28 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofuvzsgusdzbvasl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-07T15:26:31 < ReadError> well i had 2 in SLI 2016-08-07T15:26:42 < ReadError> so if I upgrade ill go back to that 2016-08-07T15:28:18 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T15:30:40 < ReadError> meh 2016-08-07T15:36:59 < ReadError> 2011 v3 2016-08-07T15:37:55 < ReadError> or w/e the broadwell-e shit is 2016-08-07T15:41:09 < Steffanx> Better invest in new skylake. for only irc a more power efficient cpu is nice. 2016-08-07T15:41:22 < Steffanx> *energy 2016-08-07T15:41:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-07T15:42:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.91] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T15:43:02 < Steffanx> amirite? 2016-08-07T15:44:23 < ReadError> Steffanx depends what you want 2016-08-07T15:44:33 < ReadError> i dont care for GPU on CPU 2016-08-07T15:44:39 < ReadError> so rather take the other benefit 2016-08-07T15:55:41 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-07T15:58:55 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T16:05:43 -!- piezoid [~piezoid@tsv35-1-78-232-144-90.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: leaving...] 2016-08-07T16:13:13 < ReadError> rebuilding some drillpacks 2016-08-07T16:13:33 < ReadError> any idea for some off the shelf configurable LVC ? 2016-08-07T16:19:11 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T16:24:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T16:28:15 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T16:28:39 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T16:29:10 -!- Katz [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-07T16:30:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-07T16:36:59 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T16:58:02 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-07T17:00:45 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T17:02:00 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T17:02:07 < mitrax_> is that piss in a bottle in the foreground? 2016-08-07T17:02:37 < mitrax_> oh near the screen too 2016-08-07T17:02:59 < ReadError> yea background 2016-08-07T17:02:59 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-07T17:03:04 < ReadError> fuckin gross 2016-08-07T17:04:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-07T17:04:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T17:06:25 < englishman> crt irc throne slash audiophool repair shop 2016-08-07T17:07:08 < englishman> newports 2016-08-07T17:10:18 < englishman> toujours 2016-08-07T17:11:06 < englishman> https://i.sli.mg/r9P58w.jpg 2016-08-07T17:11:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.91] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-07T17:11:17 < englishman> saw this lil girl in the barn 2016-08-07T17:11:34 < englishman> sad faced kitten :'( 2016-08-07T17:12:01 < mitrax_> where's the beak? 2016-08-07T17:19:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T17:20:52 < englishman> the kittens m8 2016-08-07T17:23:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-07T17:24:35 < englishman> 6 year old kittens 2016-08-07T17:30:11 < englishman> grey scale 2016-08-07T17:33:16 < mitrax_> cute 2016-08-07T17:39:08 < englishman> this guy has been coming around and demanding cuddles https://i.sli.mg/o7fmG0.jpg 2016-08-07T17:40:23 < mitrax_> ahahahah 2016-08-07T17:41:05 < mitrax_> crt: what did he do with it? 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Oddly enough there seem to be a lot of people who want to do it so he always had a supply of apprentices. 2016-08-07T18:49:59 < Rob235> fedex is saving the world (or at least my local vicinity)... 1 lost prop at a time 2016-08-07T18:50:42 < ReadError> guys i have USPS on sunday now 2016-08-07T18:50:47 < ReadError> welcome to the first world 2016-08-07T18:51:23 < Rob235> usps has been doing sunday delivery with certain packages for a while 2016-08-07T18:51:24 < englishman> will trump end usps subsidys 2016-08-07T18:52:59 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ifJ4oVdG4 2 of my favorite things, dave jones voice and zener diodes 2016-08-07T18:55:56 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T19:08:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T19:10:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-07T19:12:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-07T19:19:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-07T19:28:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.184] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-07T19:50:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T19:54:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-07T19:56:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T20:01:46 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T20:04:24 < Steffanx> usps is a f-ing logistic clusterfuck. 2016-08-07T20:05:53 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-07T20:05:58 < Steffanx> They ship from Chicago to amsterdam, back to to Chicago, then to istanbul and to amsterdam and finally to me. 2016-08-07T20:05:59 < ReadError> its pretty reliable and cheap enough 2016-08-07T20:06:09 < ReadError> domestic anyways 2016-08-07T20:07:23 < Steffanx> that might be true but.. 2016-08-07T20:10:56 < Steffanx> So did one of you find the most active user of ##stm32 ( after o6 left) yet? 2016-08-07T20:13:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-07T20:15:01 < ReadError> i axed him who hes hiding from no response 2016-08-07T20:20:51 < Steffanx> ok 2016-08-07T20:34:01 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T20:34:39 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@1.128.97.33] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-07T20:37:32 < Steffanx> We need some wisdom anton02 2016-08-07T20:39:12 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-07T20:42:27 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gythmtulebqbrvfe] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-07T20:43:42 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T20:54:15 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/ncSTipxcUgU 2016-08-07T20:54:27 < Rob235> LEDS!!! :P 2016-08-07T20:54:38 < Rob235> so hard to get good vid of lights 2016-08-07T20:55:56 < Steffanx> You did a better job wit the x-mas tree 2016-08-07T20:56:41 < Rob235> yea, I think the sunlight from the left is making it tough 2016-08-07T20:58:52 < Rob235> and I shoulda used green instead of orange for the led that passes arm to arm 2016-08-07T21:20:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-07T21:28:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.14] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T21:29:53 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vasnscwbwdvngduw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-07T21:32:14 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T21:34:24 < Ecco> I don't get it :( 2016-08-07T21:37:39 < ReadError> Rob235 those ws2812 always look white 2016-08-07T21:37:45 < ReadError> in vidjay 2016-08-07T21:38:00 < ReadError> hard to get a good color anyways 2016-08-07T21:39:22 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/B6M8J4z.png http://i.imgur.com/slWe6KP.png time 2 ship 2016-08-07T21:39:39 < ReadError> think ill go big time and order 9 boards 2016-08-07T21:39:47 < Ecco> ReadError: Looks nice 2016-08-07T21:39:49 < Ecco> what is it? 2016-08-07T21:39:58 < ReadError> battree charger 2016-08-07T21:40:12 < Ecco> seems awfully complicated 2016-08-07T21:40:14 < Ecco> what does it do? 2016-08-07T21:40:31 < ReadError> charges and discharges batteries 2016-08-07T21:40:40 < ReadError> or can provide 5v output 2016-08-07T21:40:52 < Ecco> is that an STM32 in the center? 2016-08-07T21:40:57 < ReadError> nah 2016-08-07T21:41:11 < Rob235> my animation library is pattern based, so you set background layer start color and end color and if they are different you can have it blend from one to the other. then you have layer 1 which can be 1 to 11 leds (1 in the above video) and you can set starting/ending color for that layer and animation options. In this example the animation is slide_out. normally the led slides out to the end and then back to the center of the same 2016-08-07T21:41:11 < Rob235> arm and repeats, the video shows the option of 'pass to next arm' where instead of repeating animation for each arm individually it passes the animation onto the next arm (so instead of the single orange led staying on the same arm and just sliding out over and over, it slides out then passes onto the next arm) 2016-08-07T21:41:23 < Rob235> really wasn't that interesting or worth typing that out but oh well 2016-08-07T21:41:24 < Rob235> hah 2016-08-07T21:43:37 < zyp> ReadError, what's up with the shape? 2016-08-07T21:43:52 < Rob235> so the background start and end colors are the same but the brightness goes from 10 to 100 starting at the center, so there is a brightness gradient 2016-08-07T21:44:01 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-07T21:44:23 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/QxFwL2k.png 2016-08-07T21:44:33 < ReadError> might make more sense w/o the silk covering everything 2016-08-07T21:44:38 < ReadError> but a magnet goes on the back 2016-08-07T21:44:52 < ReadError> then ill use some braid or silicone wire and another magnet 2016-08-07T21:45:07 < ReadError> and make a little kydex sheath thing 2016-08-07T21:45:19 < ReadError> so the + wire/magnet will wrap around the notch 2016-08-07T21:45:26 < ReadError> just to keep it tight 2016-08-07T21:45:45 < ReadError> might have to adjust the depth need to see how much wire ill need 2016-08-07T21:46:06 < zyp> still don't get it 2016-08-07T21:46:44 < ReadError> actually found this earlier 2016-08-07T21:46:45 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/SxGeodUWDf4?t=34 2016-08-07T21:46:51 < ReadError> imagine that but w/o the dumb clips 2016-08-07T21:47:02 < ReadError> and 1 magnet is soldered to the bottom of the PCB 2016-08-07T21:47:27 < zyp> oh, you're using the magnets to clip it onto a cell? 2016-08-07T21:47:36 < ReadError> ya 2016-08-07T21:47:39 < ReadError> and conduct 2016-08-07T21:47:48 < ReadError> actually got some gold plated joints 2016-08-07T21:48:00 < Steffanx> fancy. 2016-08-07T21:48:06 < ReadError> blingblang 2016-08-07T21:48:16 < ReadError> then the pads on the notch shit 2016-08-07T21:48:22 < ReadError> can solder 2 wires to it 2016-08-07T21:48:34 < ReadError> and bend them out if you need to charge a cellphone pack or somethin 2016-08-07T22:02:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-07T22:09:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T22:11:29 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T22:14:58 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-07T22:22:24 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-07T22:32:06 -!- ldxx [~kvirc@host-176-37-113-74.la.net.ua] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2016-08-07T22:33:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T22:33:57 < Rob235> poop 2016-08-07T22:36:37 < Steffanx> in the pants? 2016-08-07T22:40:48 < Rob235> on your face 2016-08-07T22:41:02 < Fleck> that's nice... 2016-08-07T22:43:44 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/OvRUDLdXZZI 2016-08-07T22:43:45 < Rob235> bleh 2016-08-07T22:46:50 < Rob235> not gonna waste my time, I have an idea for the calibration animations 2016-08-07T22:59:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-07T22:59:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T23:02:56 < ReadError> had an excellent stoning idea 2016-08-07T23:02:57 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/5IRqJmR.png 2016-08-07T23:03:57 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T23:10:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-07T23:10:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T23:11:47 < kakimir> I dont know what it is but I approve 2016-08-07T23:12:32 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sGokXOC-4I 2016-08-07T23:12:37 < ReadError> maybe you need a TUTORIAL 2016-08-07T23:13:46 < kakimir> is it done by Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-07T23:13:52 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-07T23:14:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-07T23:16:40 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVExoZ5QMWs 2016-08-07T23:16:52 < ReadError> maybe you need to watch this tutorial on understanding tutorials 2016-08-07T23:18:42 < Rob235> I smoked too much to figure out this math right now... oops 2016-08-07T23:19:19 < ReadError> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Resnick 2016-08-07T23:19:24 < ReadError> wow its like a normal guy lol 2016-08-07T23:22:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T23:29:25 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbDv38aI_l8 innovation of the day 2016-08-07T23:30:00 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: are the cells legit? 2016-08-07T23:30:57 < Rob235> Does this make sense: check if animation1 is ready to update, check if animation2 is ready to update, if only the one with the slower refresh rate is ready then check to see if the faster one is going to be ready within x milliseconds. If so then hold off until both are ready. could this help keep them aligned? 2016-08-07T23:33:55 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH3u9iiY_CA more about it 2016-08-07T23:46:14 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mfqgfnzlccznspzp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-07T23:50:56 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-07T23:50:56 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Mon Aug 08 2016 2016-08-08T00:00:10 < Rob235> oh I have a much better idea 2016-08-08T00:03:23 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-08T00:06:20 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T00:25:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T00:30:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-08T00:35:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.184] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-08T00:42:52 < kakimir> I need consumables for device like a ball mill 2016-08-08T00:43:14 < kakimir> but for removing paint from cast aluminum wheels 2016-08-08T00:44:35 < kakimir> it vibrates and shaped bits consume the paint away 2016-08-08T00:45:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-0cb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T00:49:27 < kakimir> *cone shaped 2016-08-08T00:49:35 < kakimir> ceramic looking 2016-08-08T00:49:46 < kakimir> not metal 2016-08-08T01:04:37 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0ad401.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-08-08T01:04:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T01:05:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T01:06:03 < kakimir> I bet chemical paint stripping is not healthy 2016-08-08T01:08:16 < Steffanx> so many unhealthy things mr kakimir 2016-08-08T01:08:57 < Steffanx> better get your sand blaster out 2016-08-08T01:09:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.153.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-08T01:12:13 < kakimir> better get sand blaster inside a box 2016-08-08T01:12:32 < kakimir> do it like a white person does 2016-08-08T01:13:18 < Steffanx> ... 2016-08-08T01:14:31 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-08T01:14:31 < kakimir> sand blasting is labor intensive and the worst 2016-08-08T01:15:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-08T01:17:55 < kakimir> I want machines to make me wealth 2016-08-08T01:18:04 < kakimir> a penny 2016-08-08T01:18:51 < Steffanx> dreams. 2016-08-08T01:19:15 < Steffanx> good to have them 2016-08-08T01:19:20 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T01:23:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-08T01:24:48 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T01:29:14 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T01:29:14 < Laurenceb__> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4196914/ 2016-08-08T01:31:16 < LeelooMinai> Maybe someone can help with git question 2016-08-08T01:31:21 < LeelooMinai> I want to clone this: https://github.com/gnuarmeclipse/openocd/tree/master/tcl/target 2016-08-08T01:31:59 < LeelooMinai> So I added -b master, but do not get the stm32l4x.cfg 2016-08-08T01:32:23 < LeelooMinai> I also tried -b gnuarmeclipse-dev 2016-08-08T01:33:40 < LeelooMinai> So, my command is like this: git clone http://git.code.sf.net/p/gnuarmeclipse/openocd -b master --single-branch 2016-08-08T01:33:57 < LeelooMinai> Am I doing something weird there? 2016-08-08T01:34:49 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: what plastic is UP if any? 2016-08-08T01:35:07 < Laurenceb__> huh? As in that acronym? 2016-08-08T01:35:11 < Laurenceb__> I don't know 2016-08-08T01:35:13 < kakimir> ye 2016-08-08T01:36:28 < kakimir> you know Laurenceb__ there is gas sealed plastics used in agriculture for grass 2016-08-08T01:36:31 < Steffanx> and whats wrong with git clone https://github.com/gnuarmeclipse/openocd.git Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-08T01:37:16 < kakimir> I wonder if there is any alternative uses for those films 2016-08-08T01:38:01 < Laurenceb__> http://www.distrupol.com/polymer_abbreviations.html 2016-08-08T01:38:05 < mitrax_> kakimir: if you mean UP as per ISO 1043-1 that's polyester resin 2016-08-08T01:38:55 < kakimir> "Unsaturated Polyester (Thermoset)" 2016-08-08T01:39:43 < kakimir> thanks 2016-08-08T01:39:48 < Laurenceb__> sound possible 2016-08-08T01:40:17 < Laurenceb__> is this for use with composites? 2016-08-08T01:40:30 < kakimir> http://shop1.r-g.de/en/art/140170 2016-08-08T01:51:35 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T01:56:59 < kakimir> figuring out all the conjunctions so that every layer chemically suits each other is quite a task 2016-08-08T01:58:26 < Sync> not really 2016-08-08T02:00:12 < Steffanx> what are you even upto kakimir? 2016-08-08T02:01:25 < ReadError> i would like some cake 2016-08-08T02:01:42 < ReadError> closest thing I have is pancakes though 2016-08-08T02:06:16 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-08T02:06:40 < Steffanx> what are you even upto kakimir? 2016-08-08T02:06:59 < Steffanx> ops 2016-08-08T02:10:29 < Steffanx> dont be shy kakimir 2016-08-08T02:16:11 < Steffanx> oh, i found dongs. He is in brazil for the japanese olympic ping pong team 2016-08-08T02:16:27 < kakimir> epoxy to epoxy, polyester to polyester 2016-08-08T02:16:52 < Steffanx> but whats the plan of this all? What are you going to do with it? 2016-08-08T02:17:22 < kakimir> Sync: what is the meaning for using pr[De-gel? 2016-08-08T02:17:31 < kakimir> pre-gel 2016-08-08T02:17:33 < Laurenceb__> you can epoxy to polyester 2016-08-08T02:18:31 < kakimir> mold golcoat needs to be chemically robbust 2016-08-08T02:18:33 < Sync> kakimir: getting a non tacky finish 2016-08-08T02:19:04 < Sync> mold gelcoats will be chemically robust and you wax them anyway 2016-08-08T02:20:01 < kakimir> unless it says "not resistant to styrene, which makes it unsuitable in conjunction with UP Pre-Gel" 2016-08-08T02:21:19 < Sync> yes, but up stuff is usually cheapskate stuff 2016-08-08T02:21:44 < kakimir> Sync: isn't there such epoxy that produces perfectly non-tacky clear surface without tricks? 2016-08-08T02:21:59 < kakimir> for clear CF laminate 2016-08-08T02:22:14 < kakimir> or is it always a bit tacky 2016-08-08T02:22:27 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mfqgfnzlccznspzp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-08T02:23:36 < kakimir> and isn't it spray on laquer you need to use anyways to get really nice finish to part? 2016-08-08T02:24:18 < kakimir> Steffanx: learn to do stuff 2016-08-08T02:24:55 < Steffanx> ok, so no particular plans. Or is this all for a solar powered airplane? 2016-08-08T02:25:47 < kakimir> I wish it was but I need to do something smaller first for certain 2016-08-08T02:28:34 < Sync> it depends 2016-08-08T02:28:55 < kakimir> I have things like CF flywheel in my list 2016-08-08T02:28:56 < Sync> for most parts you put gelcoat in the mold and then laminate on it 2016-08-08T02:29:13 < kakimir> cases of different kinds 2016-08-08T02:30:02 < kakimir> device frame out of GF 2016-08-08T02:31:10 < Rob235> my calibration led animation is gonna be sick bro yo yo 2016-08-08T02:32:11 < kakimir> Sync: how about for clear polished CF surface? 2016-08-08T02:32:25 < kakimir> when it's for looks 2016-08-08T02:32:37 < Sync> then you are not making performance parts 2016-08-08T02:32:55 < Sync> there is clear gelcoat tho 2016-08-08T02:36:15 < Steffanx> hmm unequally sized screens crt? 2016-08-08T02:36:30 < englishman> where are the kleenexes and mountain dew voltage blue 2016-08-08T02:36:49 < Steffanx> also no crt. 2016-08-08T02:36:58 < Rob235> and CeraVe lotion 2016-08-08T02:37:02 < anton02> im not sure how to compile this with my current program since its written in C++ and my program is C https://github.com/ahessling/RFM69-STM32 2016-08-08T02:37:23 < englishman> i hope dongs grows back 2016-08-08T02:37:56 < kakimir> resin system says that "can be used as clear gelcoat". So I paint on it with dump gun and lt it partially cure before actually laminating with same stuff + infusion additive Sync = 2016-08-08T02:38:49 < Steffanx> also nice password cover up crt :P 2016-08-08T02:39:48 < Steffanx> hah ok. Say hi to Peter then. 2016-08-08T02:40:46 < Steffanx> Why an accounts guy needs an nuc? 2016-08-08T02:40:53 < Steffanx> -n 2016-08-08T02:41:24 < Steffanx> Better get your employees to listen. 2016-08-08T02:41:45 < englishman> by the smell 2016-08-08T02:43:29 < Steffanx> looking at the background he was in the right place. 2016-08-08T02:44:31 < Steffanx> sales guy, that must be you. 2016-08-08T02:44:53 < Steffanx> and boss too? 2016-08-08T02:44:54 < Laurenceb__> I met a painting and decorating expert once 2016-08-08T02:45:08 < Laurenceb__> he was convinced there was a problem with his roller 2016-08-08T02:45:24 < Laurenceb__> then I pointed out that the vertical marks were due to the CFL bulb in the room... 2016-08-08T02:46:41 < Laurenceb__> he was going full rage mode and had already smashed his roller 2016-08-08T02:47:10 < Steffanx> must have been on 4chan or .. that drama wiki. 2016-08-08T02:47:36 < ReadError> englishman hes blogging on efnut 2016-08-08T02:47:58 < Steffanx> He's in brazil crt. Jappy olymic ping pong team. 2016-08-08T02:48:24 < Laurenceb__> moar like fuckular2000 or whatever its called 2016-08-08T02:48:59 < Laurenceb__> http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-03-31/1270009982244.gif 2016-08-08T02:49:20 < englishman> steeeeee ffffaannnnnnn 2016-08-08T02:49:42 < Laurenceb__> that looks like dongs style olympics 2016-08-08T02:49:43 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ are you an alantutorial viewer? 2016-08-08T02:49:53 < Laurenceb__> who the fuck is alan? 2016-08-08T02:49:58 < ReadError> i just watched an hour of the most amazing shit 2016-08-08T02:50:22 < Laurenceb__> this must be the one meme I dont know of 2016-08-08T02:50:28 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVExoZ5QMWs 2016-08-08T02:50:30 < Steffanx> Better private message. We dont need more alan here. 2016-08-08T02:50:32 < Steffanx> too late. 2016-08-08T02:50:45 < ReadError> its a real mindfuck 2016-08-08T02:50:56 < ReadError> but theres a deeper meaning 2016-08-08T02:51:19 < ReadError> about content creators becoming imprisoned for money 2016-08-08T02:51:37 < ReadError> becoming hostage to their sponsors 2016-08-08T02:51:51 < Laurenceb__> over one HOUR O_o 2016-08-08T02:51:58 < ReadError> you wouldnt think it just watching one of his videos 2016-08-08T02:52:04 < ReadError> but this is some genius level shit 2016-08-08T02:52:08 < Steffanx> nah, no one knows where he went, if he want, and if he will ever return, crt 2016-08-08T02:52:27 < Steffanx> funny though, suddenly you all seems so humanly. All worried about dongs. 2016-08-08T02:52:39 < ReadError> Steffanx thats senpai 2016-08-08T02:52:45 < ReadError> he cant lose him 2016-08-08T02:53:00 < ReadError> no senpai 2016-08-08T02:53:13 < Laurenceb__> check his youtube and shit 2016-08-08T02:53:17 < Laurenceb__> stonertronics 2016-08-08T02:53:41 < ReadError> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/37/b6/a9/37b6a9c4f5c41e1d58d876247066d485.jpg 2016-08-08T02:54:42 < Laurenceb__> not funny ReadError 2016-08-08T02:54:57 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ what 2016-08-08T02:55:21 < Steffanx> what Laurenceb__ said. 2016-08-08T02:55:50 < ReadError> pffftt crt knows nothing of dank memes 2016-08-08T02:55:50 < Steffanx> until Steffanx gets tired of it again. 2016-08-08T02:56:26 < Steffanx> yes, and then you showed up 2016-08-08T02:56:33 < ReadError> crt finally got kiel so he can not do anything with stm32 2016-08-08T02:56:35 < ReadError> ;p 2016-08-08T02:58:07 < Steffanx> so does cube 2016-08-08T02:59:42 < englishman> we care about dongs 2016-08-08T03:00:08 < Steffanx> no, you just miss his talks 2016-08-08T03:00:41 < englishman> incorrect 2016-08-08T03:00:54 < englishman> his well-being is important to the ##stm32 trolling community 2016-08-08T03:06:22 < kuldeep> im trying to use stm32f105 TIM1 with gpio as open drain alternate function. but it seems the doc only says push pull alternate function for the timer. is is possible to use it in open drain alt func? 2016-08-08T03:08:08 < kuldeep> for USARTx_TX it says a note as "1. The USART_TX pin can also be configured as alternate function open drain." but for timer NO such note is given. 2016-08-08T03:10:23 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T03:15:01 < kuldeep> im trying to control a P MOS using the timer with 5V as source voltage, and pull up on 5V and gate. but since now i came to know timer in open drain not possible, im not problem. 2016-08-08T03:15:09 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T03:15:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-08T03:15:23 < kuldeep> *im in a problem 2016-08-08T03:17:09 < owl-v-> I like HAL so far 2016-08-08T03:17:44 < kuldeep> (i do not want to drive a [small] speaker directly with gpio) 2016-08-08T03:20:40 < owl-v-> kuldeep, use amplifiers 2016-08-08T03:22:42 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T03:24:47 < Laurenceb__> emdrive delivers 2016-08-08T03:24:49 < Laurenceb__> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grow-Light-Plasma-engine-Kit-400w-equivalent-Build-Your-Own-fixture-/201336366751 2016-08-08T03:26:07 < Rob235> ready to have a seizure? 2016-08-08T03:26:08 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/DqrjCZ27M3w 2016-08-08T03:35:28 < Laurenceb__> perfect for my anti satellite system 2016-08-08T03:36:00 < Laurenceb__> maybe I could PSK it for a datalink lol 2016-08-08T03:36:47 < Laurenceb__> http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=39772.0;attach=1355507;image 2016-08-08T03:38:06 < Laurenceb__> hmm 2016-08-08T03:38:17 < Laurenceb__> Cannae is launching on Dnepr at some point soon 2016-08-08T03:38:29 < Laurenceb__> finally we will reach the end of emdrive saga 2016-08-08T03:41:00 < Laurenceb__> even reddit thinks "emdrive is dead" 2016-08-08T03:41:43 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/4qh1nm/em_drive_safe_spaces/?st=irlbbt05&sh=7e27db3d 2016-08-08T03:41:48 * Laurenceb__ sings safe space song 2016-08-08T03:44:09 < Laurenceb__> oh eestor was simple compared to emdrive 2016-08-08T03:44:20 < Laurenceb__> there was an obvious fudge in the patent 2016-08-08T03:44:42 < Laurenceb__> basically they confused parallel and series capacitance 2016-08-08T03:45:10 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-08T03:45:45 < Laurenceb__> they thought you could coat their Barium Titanate crystals with Aluminium oxide and get high capacitance and dielectric strength 2016-08-08T03:45:49 < Laurenceb__> it doesnt work like that 2016-08-08T03:46:22 < Laurenceb__> yup also similar stuff is already in use in ceramic caps 2016-08-08T03:46:56 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T03:47:00 < Laurenceb__> their E field crystal alignment technique was clever, but is already used in ceramic caps 2016-08-08T03:47:15 < Laurenceb__> eestor was 100% fudge 2016-08-08T03:47:41 < Laurenceb__> steorn was fun 2016-08-08T03:48:27 < Laurenceb__> took 3 minutes of reading their "technical paper" to see they were extracting magnetic potential energy from the magnetisation of the device structure 2016-08-08T03:50:22 < Laurenceb__> Edit2: The heavy down voting in this thread is not conducive to a discussion. 2016-08-08T03:50:24 < Laurenceb__> top kek 2016-08-08T03:51:26 < Laurenceb__> https://coubsecure-a.akamaihd.net/get/b56/p/coub/simple/cw_timeline_pic/fafe230adb6/84da85f941a81246ed8d2/big_1445810693_image.jpg 2016-08-08T04:01:30 < Laurenceb__> Lockheed Martin are currently getting scammed by their fusion energy guy 2016-08-08T04:02:00 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_beta_fusion_reactor 2016-08-08T04:03:08 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_beta_fusion_reactor#T-4 2016-08-08T04:03:18 < Laurenceb__> lul I could make better plasma in my microwave oven 2016-08-08T04:04:01 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-08T04:04:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T04:04:46 < inca> quick poll: what's a good quad/tri-copter for starter with a little room to grow into it? 2016-08-08T04:04:53 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should kickstart my own fusion reactor 2016-08-08T04:06:26 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-08T04:07:54 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T04:09:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-08T04:10:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-08T04:23:18 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-08T04:25:22 < ReadError> some goldfish would be good 2016-08-08T04:25:38 < ReadError> the cheese things not real ones 2016-08-08T04:27:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T04:58:44 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T05:02:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.58.240] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-08T05:04:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T05:08:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T05:40:39 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-08T05:41:45 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T05:46:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-08T06:00:13 -!- Rezistor [~Rezistor@node218.9.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T06:09:33 -!- Rezistor [~Rezistor@node218.9.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 2016-08-08T06:11:51 -!- solrize [~solrize@unaffiliated/solrize] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T06:14:49 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T06:17:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T06:17:42 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T07:12:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::5763] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T07:29:05 < englishman> em:drive maintenance and repair 2016-08-08T07:31:00 -!- solrize [~solrize@unaffiliated/solrize] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-08-08T07:34:03 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-08T07:42:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T07:53:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T08:25:09 -!- rue_house [~rue@d205-250-204-74.bchsia.telus.net] has left ##stm32 ["Stomps off..."] 2016-08-08T09:00:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6bb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T09:01:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-08T09:02:17 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T09:21:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6bb9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-08T09:37:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T09:39:57 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T10:07:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T10:07:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.105.120] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T10:30:12 < upgrdman> lolwut http://imgur.com/oO13GWo 2016-08-08T10:42:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T10:50:26 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-08T10:50:54 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T10:51:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-08T10:55:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-08T10:57:14 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-08T10:57:34 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T10:59:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::5763] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-08T11:05:29 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T11:08:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.171] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T11:22:44 -!- grummund_ [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T11:51:41 < mitrax_> crt: colostomy bag? were you raging about something or do you have to wear one? :/ 2016-08-08T11:53:58 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-08T11:57:35 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T12:02:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.171] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T12:05:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-08T12:26:32 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-08T12:28:43 < Steffanx> So the jappy uber senpai is going to resign.. dongs? 2016-08-08T12:29:53 < zyp> norwegian news said something about that 2016-08-08T12:30:59 < Steffanx> Yeah, dutch news too. 2016-08-08T12:32:49 < PaulFertser> Latest news say he said he wasn't going to, at least not right now. 2016-08-08T12:34:03 < zyp> wanted to but couldn't due to some legal bullshit 2016-08-08T12:35:10 < Steffanx> Heh and then you are the emperor. 2016-08-08T12:38:55 < mitrax_> what happened to dongs? 2016-08-08T12:39:19 < Steffanx> No one knows or will tell us. 2016-08-08T12:39:23 < mitrax_> dongs has been idle 46mins 55secs 2016-08-08T12:39:26 < mitrax_> wtf 2016-08-08T12:40:05 < zyp> maybe this channel is just boring as fuck 2016-08-08T12:40:13 < Steffanx> And has been quiet for 5 days or so. He is messing with us. :o 2016-08-08T12:40:47 < Steffanx> Hah sure, but no way he can not post crap in here zyp 2016-08-08T12:50:51 < mitrax_> http://imgur.com/r/WTF/82jCTRr 2016-08-08T12:53:08 < Steffanx> Btw zyp boring.. Mostly because of the crap posted here. No one really seems to care about that, so i guess ##stm32 is a lost cause 2016-08-08T12:55:18 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 119 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 118 normal] 2016-08-08T12:55:33 < jpa-> for some reason it still keeps growing 2016-08-08T12:55:50 < mitrax_> Steffanx: crap like i just posted? :) 2016-08-08T13:05:26 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-08T13:05:34 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T13:07:03 < Steffanx> For example mitrax_ but it tends to be more crappy. 2016-08-08T13:07:15 < Steffanx> oh no, i didnt read the text. it's on par. 2016-08-08T13:08:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.204] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T13:09:41 < mitrax_> c'mon it's not that bad... it's not LaurenceB-grade 2016-08-08T13:14:10 < jpa-> but "par" is just "average for a competent troll" 2016-08-08T13:30:01 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-08T13:32:06 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T13:34:24 < Steffanx> Or not, we're supposed to be all grown ups. 2016-08-08T13:34:53 < Steffanx> It's not supposed to be a childcare 2016-08-08T13:36:45 < Ultrasauce> rules are for chumps, authoritarianism is the way to go 2016-08-08T13:36:55 < Ultrasauce> i am totally not saying this solely because i am on the right side of the hammer 2016-08-08T13:37:16 < Steffanx> pinta crt, not sure if pre-installed 2016-08-08T13:42:53 < gjm> -/12 2016-08-08T13:49:48 < Jak_o_Shadows> My stm32f429 discovery turned up today 2016-08-08T13:50:33 < Jak_o_Shadows> Quite an upgrade in RAM over my previous nucel401re 2016-08-08T13:51:22 < Jak_o_Shadows> 8MegaByte 2016-08-08T13:51:51 < Jak_o_Shadows> I have a 1 MP camera, so I kinda needed more RAM 2016-08-08T13:53:21 < mitrax_> Steffanx: i can get that it's irritating when there's an stm32 / electronics discussion going on and someone interrupts it with random shitposts, but when the channel is mostly quiet i didn't think it would be such a big deal... 2016-08-08T13:54:29 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T13:54:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-08T13:55:27 < Jak_o_Shadows> After making sure I can program it, etc, the next task is setting up the DMA controller and all that jazz 2016-08-08T13:58:27 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T13:58:30 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T14:00:24 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-08-08T14:02:29 < Jak_o_Shadows> Yeah. Hopefully it'll all work out nice and easy 2016-08-08T14:03:11 < jpa-> mitrax_: it just contributes to this channel being a place for shitposts more than a place for stm32 discussions 2016-08-08T14:03:18 < jpa-> but doesn't matter for me, as either are pretty boring 2016-08-08T14:06:03 < mitrax_> jpa-: duly noted :) 2016-08-08T14:07:44 < Steffanx> Wonder why you guys are even here. :P 2016-08-08T14:09:55 < Tectu> hi 2016-08-08T14:10:55 -!- filt3r [~filter@pietrmar.at] has quit [Quit: x] 2016-08-08T14:12:06 < Tectu> how's your butt mate? 2016-08-08T14:12:10 < Jak_o_Shadows> yo 2016-08-08T14:12:50 < Steffanx> Tectu, stop it please. 2016-08-08T14:13:04 < Tectu> ok 2016-08-08T14:13:08 < Tectu> also hi Mr. Steffanx 2016-08-08T14:13:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T14:14:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-08T14:14:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T14:23:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T14:28:19 < Steffanx> so did pinta get the job done crt? 2016-08-08T14:30:21 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T14:32:45 < mitrax_> Steffanx: i can't talk for others, but i ask stm32 related questions now and then :p and try to help if i can 2016-08-08T14:34:54 < Laurenceb__> did you know? 2016-08-08T14:35:06 < Laurenceb__> gamergate was an argument between two pheasant hunters about how long to hang a bird before cooking. 2016-08-08T14:36:44 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T14:39:16 < c4017_> Does anyone know of some code that emulates the ST ICC (In-Circuit Communication) programming protocol so I don't have to buy another programmer 2016-08-08T14:40:02 < jpa-> ST7 processor? 2016-08-08T14:40:08 < c4017_> yes 2016-08-08T14:42:29 < jpa-> can't you use jtag? 2016-08-08T14:44:28 < c4017_> I've never used jtag before. Can f4discovery be used as a jtag programmer or only SWD? 2016-08-08T14:44:41 < jpa-> SWD only i think 2016-08-08T14:44:53 < jpa-> openocd + some ftdi dongle might be easiest 2016-08-08T14:45:31 < c4017_> hmm, i have som cpld board that has an ftdijtag chip 2016-08-08T14:45:53 < jpa-> if morals allow, you can also get some j-link clone from ebay; it has pretty good support for many chips https://www.segger.com/jlink_supported_devices.html 2016-08-08T14:47:48 < c4017_> Oh, i actually have a usb blaster clone laying around somewhere from a course i took 2016-08-08T14:48:12 < c4017_> maybe that will work 2016-08-08T14:51:58 < PaulFertser> openocd does jtag but I do not think it knows anything about st7. 2016-08-08T14:52:43 < jpa-> i think STR7 = ST7? 2016-08-08T14:53:21 < c4017_> no st7 is 8 bit 2016-08-08T14:53:29 < jpa-> ah hmm 2016-08-08T14:53:54 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-08T14:54:04 < jpa-> then it probably doesn't even have jtag? 2016-08-08T14:54:26 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T14:54:30 < c4017_> I didnt even check actually... 2016-08-08T14:54:44 < c4017_> nope guess not 2016-08-08T14:55:50 < c4017_> hopefully ICC is well documented. I'll probably write my own emulator 2016-08-08T15:10:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.214] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T15:13:39 < Laurenceb__> well I got emailed by some ex nokia staff 2016-08-08T15:13:51 < Laurenceb__> they have haxored bluetooth modules with custom firmware 2016-08-08T15:14:02 < Laurenceb__> and board with bluetooth and cp2102 2016-08-08T15:14:08 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-08T15:14:15 < Laurenceb__> going to try haxored bluetooth 2016-08-08T15:14:39 < Laurenceb__> apparently it can default to non haxored mode if someone makes a connection to it 2016-08-08T15:15:09 < Laurenceb__> but they think my gui is doomed to failure using non haxored bluetooth - they have tried similar stuff using rfcomm 2016-08-08T15:15:15 < Laurenceb__> so thats good ot know 2016-08-08T15:15:25 < Laurenceb__> they should know too 2016-08-08T15:16:16 < Laurenceb__> and they ended up making their cp2102 - CSR bluetooth module dongle to get a similar application to mine off the ground 2016-08-08T15:16:55 < Laurenceb__> apparently they bypassed a bunch of the bluetooth stack 2016-08-08T15:17:37 < Laurenceb__> they recommended I use custom ISM band stuff of BLE 2016-08-08T15:18:06 < Laurenceb__> they are working on a new version of their kit using BLE, as its "not designed by committee and therefore not shit" 2016-08-08T15:20:20 < Laurenceb__> got my airspy talking to matlab and some decoder scripts running 2016-08-08T15:20:29 < Laurenceb__> so I'll take a look at SP1ML laters 2016-08-08T15:21:04 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should make it into a product 2016-08-08T15:21:11 < Laurenceb__> "radio link that actually works" 2016-08-08T15:21:32 < Laurenceb__> the Nokia guys have the same problems as me, but they think BLE solves most of the problems 2016-08-08T15:21:36 < Laurenceb__> only its low range 2016-08-08T15:22:51 < Laurenceb__> tens of k Bytes/s _throughput_, range of a km or so, and low and predictable latency with unlicensed kit doesnt seem to exist 2016-08-08T15:23:34 < Laurenceb__> oh also "easy to setup, close to drop in replacement for bluetooth" 2016-08-08T15:24:11 < Laurenceb__> SP1ML almost ticks all the boxes, but it seems to tx/rx mode state machine is utterly broken 2016-08-08T15:24:35 < Laurenceb__> I suspect they only ever tested it with hyperterminal and manually typing 2016-08-08T15:25:10 < Laurenceb__> yeah I'll try the new firmware they released last week first, but that requires pcb haxors to get onto the modules 2016-08-08T15:25:12 < mitrax_> sounds unlikely... 2016-08-08T15:25:19 < Laurenceb__> nobody seems to be using it lol 2016-08-08T15:26:13 < Laurenceb__> I disassembled the firmware, it looks a bit noob 2016-08-08T15:26:44 < Laurenceb__> AT command decode seems to be a ton of different functions, wheras it could be a state machine 2016-08-08T15:27:05 < Laurenceb__> version number is a floating point number passed through printf ... 2016-08-08T15:27:45 < Laurenceb__> annoyingly it looks like latest version used a newer compiler or some compilation flag change 2016-08-08T15:27:56 < Laurenceb__> as there are subtle changes almost everywhere 2016-08-08T15:28:17 < Laurenceb__> so unless they made a ton of v small changes, which seems unlikely, its impossible to see what they fixed 2016-08-08T15:28:57 < Laurenceb__> but its a few hundred bytes longer and most functions shrunk a bit, so they def added something 2016-08-08T15:29:38 < Laurenceb__> only option is magnet wire and haxor SWD onto the modules 2016-08-08T15:33:38 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-08T15:33:44 < Laurenceb__> yeah, from last year 2016-08-08T15:36:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-08T15:36:15 < Laurenceb__> well its not obviously useless 2016-08-08T15:36:43 < Laurenceb__> if they had bothered to fire up kermit or whatever its called in hyperterminal they would have seen the issues 2016-08-08T15:38:37 < Laurenceb__> both ends of the link get stuck in rx mode, then there is a one second timeout before the state machine restarts 2016-08-08T15:39:43 -!- Ron_How [53ba578e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.186.87.142] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T15:39:52 < Ron_How> Hi 2016-08-08T15:39:59 < Laurenceb__> hi 2016-08-08T15:40:08 < Laurenceb__> welcome to the 4chan of programming 2016-08-08T15:40:23 < Ron_How> I am working with STM32F042C6T6 2016-08-08T15:40:43 < Laurenceb__> I'm generally failing at life 2016-08-08T15:40:53 < Laurenceb__> havent used F0 series 2016-08-08T15:41:04 < Laurenceb__> but used most of the others, so can prob help 2016-08-08T15:41:09 < Ron_How> I could successfully program a sample LED using socket and MCU 2016-08-08T15:41:29 < Ron_How> But when I try to use a PCB design using same circuit 2016-08-08T15:41:39 < Ron_How> my MCU pins burn out 2016-08-08T15:41:48 < Ron_How> I am using Eclipse, gcc 2016-08-08T15:42:44 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-08T15:42:45 < Ron_How> It looks like there is some issue that I cant even program a simple LED on my PCB 2016-08-08T15:42:53 < Ecco> Are you using a resistor? 2016-08-08T15:43:08 < Ron_How> but it works well with a breadboard and socket setting 2016-08-08T15:43:10 < Ron_How> yes 2016-08-08T15:43:19 < Ecco> how did you compute the resistor value? 2016-08-08T15:43:50 < Ron_How> it was calculated using max current for LED 2016-08-08T15:44:32 < Ron_How> But I get to turn on and off using a breadboard. using same settings 2016-08-08T15:45:19 < Ron_How> Weird that it does not work on PCB that we have designed that I have created using KiCad 2016-08-08T15:45:23 < Ecco> Well, something must be wrong right? 2016-08-08T15:45:38 < Ron_How> Ya the MCU burn up. 2016-08-08T15:45:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T15:46:01 < Laurenceb__> anyone here had issues with DHL tracking? 2016-08-08T15:46:12 < Laurenceb__> muh tracking number isnt recognised :S 2016-08-08T15:46:24 < Ron_How> I check for short circuit before mounting the MCU, 2016-08-08T15:46:40 < Ron_How> I have placed all the decoupling caps. 2016-08-08T15:47:42 < Ron_How> I have used a programmed MCU and when I give power supply, for first few seconds there is nothing going on but later the current draw increased and ultimately the MCU goes shortcircuited 2016-08-08T15:48:19 < Ron_How> Could be my partner. But now I am looking into it. 2016-08-08T15:49:12 < Ron_How> I use a ZIF socket and motherboard 2016-08-08T15:49:25 < Ron_How> 'breadboard 2016-08-08T15:49:54 < Ron_How> No. 2016-08-08T15:50:32 < Ron_How> I am using a DC power supply. with 3.3 V 2016-08-08T15:51:28 < Ron_How> I am supposed to have a voltage regulator that regulates voltage to 3.3V but instead I am using 3.3V from DC power supply. 2016-08-08T15:52:03 < Ron_How> It is consistent on breadboard. with all the same settings. when I use the PCB it will burn. 2016-08-08T15:52:24 < Ron_How> Yes similar to lab supply. 2016-08-08T15:53:26 < Ron_How> I am using 260 degrees 2016-08-08T15:53:28 < Ecco> Ron_How: what MCU is it? I didn't know some STM32s were ZIF-abl 2016-08-08T15:53:30 < Ron_How> i suppose 2016-08-08T15:53:40 < Ron_How> STM32F042. 2016-08-08T15:53:56 < Ron_How> for 48 pin 2016-08-08T15:54:06 < Ecco> UFQFN? 2016-08-08T15:54:10 < Ron_How> yes we can get all sorts of zif 2016-08-08T15:54:47 < Ron_How> LQFP48 2016-08-08T15:55:15 < Ron_How> yes something similar to the one in picture 2016-08-08T15:56:21 < Ron_How> 47 Ohms, 3.3 Ohms and 20 Ohms. 2016-08-08T15:56:39 < Ron_How> its a multi colored led. 2016-08-08T15:57:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T15:57:32 < Ron_How> If there is an issue with LED then it should burn LED and not the Microcontroller ! No ? 2016-08-08T15:58:16 < Ron_How> Of MCU or LED ? 2016-08-08T15:58:57 < Ron_How> It works perfect on breadboard. 2016-08-08T15:59:11 < Ron_How> But not on PCB. 2016-08-08T16:01:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T16:05:08 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-08T16:05:21 < Rob235> good mornin 2016-08-08T16:05:56 < mitrax_> Rob235: got your propelers? :) 2016-08-08T16:06:08 < Rob235> tracking hasn't changed in 3 days... 2016-08-08T16:06:11 < Rob235> still says pending 2016-08-08T16:06:19 < Rob235> but my FPV shit from china is on vehicle for delivery 2016-08-08T16:06:25 < mitrax_> ahaha 2016-08-08T16:06:27 < Rob235> that I ordered 2 days after 2016-08-08T16:07:55 < Ron_How> If I dont connect to the LED. Even then the MCU burns !! 2016-08-08T16:08:07 < Ron_How> Thats quite not right. 2016-08-08T16:08:19 < Ron_How> Let me get back to drawing board. 2016-08-08T16:08:35 < Ron_How> But I have done this from scratch umpteen number of times. 2016-08-08T16:08:52 < Ron_How> Ok 2016-08-08T16:09:00 < mitrax_> Ron_How: if you use a lab supply limit the current to 20mA or so... you won't fry the cpu each time 2016-08-08T16:09:20 < Ron_How> It did quite surprisingly. 2016-08-08T16:09:30 < Ron_How> I am setting limit for 10mA actually. 2016-08-08T16:09:52 < mitrax_> and it burns? 2016-08-08T16:10:01 < Ron_How> Let me make sure I am doing this right, 2016-08-08T16:10:06 < Ron_How> Will get back to you guys. 2016-08-08T16:10:09 < Rob235> sometimes I forget to unplug the usb before lipo and I power 84 leds from usb power.... 2016-08-08T16:10:26 < Rob235> I don't know how that works 2016-08-08T16:10:49 < Ron_How> Actually It should not be an issue as it works with breadboard thats is all that I am saying 2016-08-08T16:11:12 < Ron_How> But you have been very helpful to make me think in another directions. 2016-08-08T16:11:34 < mitrax_> Ron_How: don't assume that because it works in some situation you've done nothing wrong :) be it hardware or programming 2016-08-08T16:11:37 < Ron_How> Let me work a little more and see if the issues can be solved. Or I get back here. 2016-08-08T16:11:54 < Ron_How> Cheers mitrax_ 2016-08-08T16:12:02 < Ron_How> I know what you mean. I agree. 2016-08-08T16:12:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T16:14:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T16:15:03 -!- Ron_How [53ba578e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.186.87.142] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-08T16:17:32 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.170] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T16:18:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.220] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T16:18:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.170] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T16:21:24 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-08T16:21:27 < Rob235> emailed fedex... not like it's going to make a difference 2016-08-08T16:23:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-08-08T16:24:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.181.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T16:51:54 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T16:51:54 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-08T16:51:54 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T16:52:19 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-08T16:53:21 < Tectu> crt 2016-08-08T16:53:39 < Tectu> pizza tonight? 2016-08-08T16:55:06 < Tectu> do you DIY pizza, order pizza or unfreeze pizza? 2016-08-08T16:55:30 < Tectu> -__- 2016-08-08T16:55:32 < Tectu> Steffanx ^ 2016-08-08T16:55:37 < Tectu> why would you DIY pizza 2016-08-08T16:56:17 < Rob235> sounds like a terrible waste of time :) 2016-08-08T16:56:31 < Rob235> I hate preparing food 2016-08-08T16:57:20 < Tectu> +1 2016-08-08T17:00:49 < Rob235> come on ups, get here so I have something to play with 2016-08-08T17:01:00 < Tectu> order fleshlight much? 2016-08-08T17:01:35 < Rob235> got the butt one coming in 2016-08-08T17:02:17 < Rob235> its a camera, video tx/rx, cheap goggles 2016-08-08T17:02:33 < Tectu> oh, that hobbyking thing 2016-08-08T17:02:36 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-08T17:02:43 < Tectu> steam vr 2016-08-08T17:03:04 < Rob235> curious to see the camera quality 2016-08-08T17:03:35 < Rob235> I'm not sure where to go with that 2016-08-08T17:03:39 < Tectu> Okay, stop talking shit guys 2016-08-08T17:03:50 < Tectu> anyone got one of the new F7 nucleos? 2016-08-08T17:05:36 < Rob235> what is a nucleo? 2016-08-08T17:05:44 < Rob235> i've heard of them but dont know what it implies 2016-08-08T17:05:52 < Tectu> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/product-evaluation-tools/mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-eval-tools/stm32-mcu-nucleo.html?querycriteria=productId=LN1847 2016-08-08T17:06:10 < syke> nucleophile, steals nucleo from unexpecting 2016-08-08T17:06:37 < Rob235> like a disco with arduino support? 2016-08-08T17:07:05 < syke> disco with a fresh start/renaming 2016-08-08T17:07:06 < Tectu> yeah, and without the discovery part (no peripherals) 2016-08-08T17:07:54 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-08T17:08:44 < syke> arduino periphelials are there everywhere, why raspi wants HATs anyways 2016-08-08T17:10:06 < Rob235> 144 pins, thats a lot 2016-08-08T17:10:33 < syke> i went to ST hands-on seminar for F7, catasthrophic windows-only dev tools and a sorrow statement that in ST, even USB developers need to use windows-only tools 2016-08-08T17:11:20 < syke> everything in ST is done with Windows-only, thanks corporate policies 2016-08-08T17:12:20 < syke> gnu cc is cool, keil is quick'n'dirty unmainanable hardware developement studio 2016-08-08T17:12:41 < Rob235> I made the interesting decision to start my project with coocox 2016-08-08T17:12:56 < Rob235> so that's the only IDE I've used so far 2016-08-08T17:13:27 -!- jon1012_ [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T17:15:11 < Rob235> I assumed Id go over the 32 kb limit so I didn't use keil and liked the eclipse stuff like autocomplete 2016-08-08T17:15:55 < Rob235> I'm curious to try their new beta but its a completely new version so Im not installing it yet 2016-08-08T17:16:04 < Tectu> CoOS is eclipse based, isn't it? I worked with it once for a customer project but that's years ago 2016-08-08T17:16:08 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-08T17:16:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-08T17:16:27 < Rob235> I don't hate it, but can't really compare it to anything, it just seems a bit buggy 2016-08-08T17:16:50 < Rob235> I get a null pointer exception everytime I start up the ide 2016-08-08T17:18:24 < Rob235> i'll try it with a smaller project 2016-08-08T17:18:42 < Tectu> Keil is semi-decent. I hate the fact that you can't properly organize your files and stuff and that it doesn't do "click on the error/warning to jump to code" 2016-08-08T17:18:47 < Tectu> but the debugger is pretty awesome 2016-08-08T17:19:17 < Steffanx> wut, you can click on errors right? 2016-08-08T17:19:34 < Tectu> you can, but nothing will happen :p 2016-08-08T17:19:36 < englishman> FYI keil is free for f0 now, any linked size 2016-08-08T17:20:16 < englishman> doesn't double click bring you to the error line 2016-08-08T17:21:03 < englishman> yeah Tectu just write perfect code the first time 2016-08-08T17:21:08 < Rob235> heh 2016-08-08T17:21:45 < Tectu> aaah, I remember. It does jump to errors, yes (or I think so). What I meant is that it throws all the errors and warnings in that compiler output log window and you have to scroll and they are hard to find. Eg they could have just colored in the line 2016-08-08T17:25:24 < ReadError> i hate the IDE part of keil 2016-08-08T17:25:36 < ReadError> and its fake ass 'folder' include shits 2016-08-08T17:25:40 < Rob235> its ugly and looked useless 2016-08-08T17:25:56 < ReadError> why cant it just look like a normal filesystem 2016-08-08T17:26:43 < Rob235> i'm bout to create a windows vm just to try the new coide 2016-08-08T17:26:54 < ReadError> and personally I prefer make files living the GNU lifestyle 2016-08-08T17:33:09 < Laurenceb> sup trollz 2016-08-08T17:33:15 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T17:33:16 < Rob235> thank god I went with the 1TB ssd, 512 was killing me last laptop 2016-08-08T17:38:24 < Steffanx> Don't store all the movies etc. on there too? 2016-08-08T17:38:38 < ReadError> yea bruv 2016-08-08T17:38:48 < Rob235> I don't 2016-08-08T17:38:50 < ReadError> ive never needed more than 120G for OS/App crap 2016-08-08T17:39:01 < ReadError> but I guess with gaymes being so big these days 2016-08-08T17:39:18 < Rob235> no games, not really sure whats taking up so much space, I have two partitions for OS X and windows 2016-08-08T17:39:35 < Steffanx> i have 2 ssds for that and dnot really need more. 2016-08-08T17:39:40 < Steffanx> 128 + 256GB 2016-08-08T17:39:45 < Rob235> that would be plenty for me 2016-08-08T17:39:50 < Rob235> oops 2016-08-08T17:40:07 < Rob235> I was thinking 512 + 128 or 256 2016-08-08T17:40:24 < Rob235> I have 500 used right now 2016-08-08T17:41:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T17:46:54 < Rob235> heh actually I could move a few of these big space takers to my storage drive on my pc, oh well (just ran a disk usage app) 2016-08-08T17:51:02 < Rob235> 70 gb of music, 100gb of virtual machines, 60 gb of unsorted stuff in my download folder, and for some reason I have my 55gb emulator collection on here 2016-08-08T17:54:17 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T17:55:39 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-08T17:56:43 < Steffanx> aah, virtual machines. there you go 2016-08-08T17:57:41 < ReadError> i keep them on a separate SSD 2016-08-08T17:57:59 < ReadError> dont want stuff struggling for IOPS 2016-08-08T18:00:41 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T18:02:44 < Rob235> speaking of data, I should probably back up all my stuff again, its about that time. 2016-08-08T18:02:49 < Rob235> I hate doing it though 2016-08-08T18:05:08 < syke> Locky You if u have physical backups every month 2016-08-08T18:05:09 < Laurenceb> heh I had an epically bad HDD failure recently 2016-08-08T18:05:21 < Laurenceb> managed to recover just before drive went totally dead 2016-08-08T18:05:34 < Laurenceb> seagate drive, what a surprise 2016-08-08T18:05:57 < Rob235> every month or two I try to copy all my important stuff into a backup folder on 3 separate drives 2016-08-08T18:06:05 < ReadError> I was testing those hitachis yesterday 2016-08-08T18:06:13 < ReadError> went full bore on 16 of em for 15 hours 2016-08-08T18:06:19 < ReadError> none cried or gave up 2016-08-08T18:09:43 < ReadError> nothin to it but to do it 2016-08-08T18:10:22 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T18:11:43 < Rob235> burb 2016-08-08T18:11:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-08T18:12:40 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T18:20:28 < Rob235> hmm USTVNow is pretty good quality... and all the good channels for $30 a month 2016-08-08T18:20:32 < Rob235> Might drop cable 2016-08-08T18:22:26 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T18:23:09 < ReadError> wtf 2016-08-08T18:23:12 < ReadError> https://www.ustvnow.com/vip-plan.html 2016-08-08T18:23:21 < ReadError> 1 Month 2016-08-08T18:23:21 < ReadError> $199.00 USD monthly 2016-08-08T18:23:21 < ReadError> $175.00 USD Setup Fee 2016-08-08T18:24:04 < Rob235> haha damnnn 2016-08-08T18:24:08 < Rob235> thats a crazy package though 2016-08-08T18:24:26 < Rob235> hbo and showtime 2016-08-08T18:25:08 < ReadError> heh so they setup a DVR in a datacenter 2016-08-08T18:25:12 < ReadError> and a slingbox? 2016-08-08T18:26:34 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T18:27:32 < Rob235_> $30 for 28 channels (first 3months are $20) an extra $10 for dvr 2016-08-08T18:28:22 < Rob235_> ABC, CBS, CW, FOX, NBC, PBS, My9, A&E, Animal Planet, Bravo, Cartoon Network, CNBC, CNN, Comedy Central, Discovery Channel, ESPN, FX, Fox News, History, Lifetime, National Geographic, Nickelodeon, Spike, Syfy, TBS, TNT, USA, AMC. 2016-08-08T18:29:56 < Rob235_> fed-ex just emailed me back, says package is scheduled for tomorrow 2016-08-08T18:30:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-08T18:30:10 -!- Rob235_ is now known as Rob235 2016-08-08T18:35:18 -!- jon1012_ [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T18:37:10 < Rob235> fedex home doesn't deliver on monday? thats weird 2016-08-08T18:37:31 < ReadError> sounds german 2016-08-08T18:37:40 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T18:42:31 < Rob235> nicotine free for about a week, I thought I would have felt shitty or anxious or something from it but nothings changed 2016-08-08T18:43:06 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-08T18:44:40 < Laurenceb> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/c/c4/Specialcodesupersekrit.jpg 2016-08-08T18:47:42 < Rob235> I dont know if I like my calibration animation idea, any ideas on how you would represent a progress bar on a drone in a cool way? (if you haven't seen what I've come up with: https://youtu.be/DqrjCZ27M3w ) 2016-08-08T18:48:14 < Rob235> that doesn't show anything progressing, just the general animation idea 2016-08-08T18:52:08 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-08T18:58:01 -!- trezer [~trezer@114.125.175.3] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T19:01:47 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T19:02:11 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/cmDhFia.jpg 2016-08-08T19:03:29 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T19:10:18 < jpa-> Tectu: find me some good free german language ebooks (technical subjects preferred) 2016-08-08T19:11:32 < Tectu> jpa-, "language ebooks" as in "books that were made to learn the language"? 2016-08-08T19:11:50 < jpa-> just written in german 2016-08-08T19:12:54 < Tectu> germans are quite into mechanics, I guess there you'll find the most 2016-08-08T19:13:09 < Tectu> better bug Sync 2016-08-08T19:13:17 < jpa-> ok :) 2016-08-08T19:13:28 < Tectu> I'm afraid I can't remember when was the last time I read a book in german 2016-08-08T19:13:33 < Tectu> I bet it was some school book 2016-08-08T19:13:37 < Tectu> all my ebooks are english, sorry 2016-08-08T19:14:35 < jpa-> oh well, i'd have the same trouble if you asked me to recommend books in finnish 2016-08-08T19:14:42 < Tectu> haha :p 2016-08-08T19:14:56 < Tectu> are you (planning) to learn german? 2016-08-08T19:15:21 < englishman> pokemon go bots are working again, so where is dongs 2016-08-08T19:16:22 < Thorn> jpa-: http://www.springer.com/la/book/9783540590699 2016-08-08T19:16:34 < jpa-> Tectu: well it's something i'd eventually like to do, but for now it is my wife trying to refresh her german skills 2016-08-08T19:17:02 < jpa-> Thorn: hmm.. seems interesting but i'm too cheap :P 2016-08-08T19:17:16 < jpa-> digging through project gutenberg now.. 2016-08-08T19:17:27 < Tectu> jpa-, I see 2016-08-08T19:17:28 < Thorn> http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=3A1B9106EDC7569C36A91981E67D8F1A 2016-08-08T19:17:41 < Tectu> lol thorn ;) 2016-08-08T19:18:45 < Tectu> jpa-, better learn swiss german 2016-08-08T19:19:30 < Lux> so noone understands you ? :P 2016-08-08T19:19:43 < Lux> except swiss and people from vorarlberg 2016-08-08T19:20:57 < jpa-> only the rich people will understand :) 2016-08-08T19:24:03 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T19:26:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.92] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T19:37:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.92] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-08T19:37:57 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T19:47:03 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-08T19:56:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.181.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-08T19:56:50 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/SVrNc0x.png 2016-08-08T19:57:01 < ReadError> finally assbergered myself out on this one 2016-08-08T19:58:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:12:13 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-08T20:12:34 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:15:12 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:15:12 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-08T20:15:12 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:17:09 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w1hx13Qrhq8 2016-08-08T20:18:51 < Laurenceb> The music is a metaphor for how the longer you stay, the more cancerous it gets 2016-08-08T20:19:37 < Rob235> woo, ups just got here 2016-08-08T20:23:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:23:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-e2b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:24:57 < Rob235> oh wow this camera is tiny 2016-08-08T20:25:53 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has left ##stm32 ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 2016-08-08T20:30:52 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-08T20:32:22 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:32:22 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-08T20:32:22 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:32:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.49.184] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-08T20:40:24 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-08T20:40:26 < Laurenceb> anyone here used RN-42 modules? 2016-08-08T20:40:33 < Laurenceb> for bluetooth? 2016-08-08T20:41:03 < jon1012> ReadError, it"s for unprotected batteries ? 2016-08-08T20:41:44 < ReadError> jon1012 lipos, not sure how protection circuits effect charging, not looked into that 2016-08-08T20:41:50 < ReadError> most my cells are unprotected though 2016-08-08T20:42:37 < jon1012> ReadError: it's a separate pcb or meant to be put directly on the cells ? 2016-08-08T20:42:49 < ReadError> jon1012 a magnet solders on the back 2016-08-08T20:42:54 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:42:55 < ReadError> then another one is on a wire 2016-08-08T20:43:01 < jon1012> nice ! 2016-08-08T20:43:12 < ReadError> the little notch thing is for wraping it up 2016-08-08T20:43:43 < jon1012> do you have a picture or it assembled ? 2016-08-08T20:43:46 < jon1012> it's your design ? 2016-08-08T20:43:59 < ReadError> not got boards yet, just ordered 2016-08-08T20:44:45 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T20:47:45 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T20:51:23 < Lux> ReadError: soldering a magnet might break it 2016-08-08T20:51:37 < ReadError> Lux yea I have conductive epoxy too 2016-08-08T21:02:28 < upgrdman> in win10, is there an easy way to disable a monitor? like with a taskbar tool? 2016-08-08T21:07:20 < englishman> can you unplug it? 2016-08-08T21:07:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.220] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:13:13 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:17:44 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T21:22:10 < Rob235> I dont think this stupid camera works 2016-08-08T21:27:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T21:33:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:7945:3255:d90b:3795] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:33:59 < syke> upgrdman: win+p 2016-08-08T21:34:42 < upgrdman> oh, its part of the project settings. ok, cool. 2016-08-08T21:34:44 < upgrdman> thanks 2016-08-08T21:35:02 < upgrdman> projector* 2016-08-08T21:35:54 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-08T21:37:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-08T21:40:21 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:42:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.152] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:47:54 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Mon Aug 08 21:49:53 2016 --- Log opened Mon Aug 08 21:50:02 2016 2016-08-08T21:50:02 -!- jpa-_ [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:50:02 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 128 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 127 normal] 2016-08-08T21:50:03 -!- XTL_ [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:50:04 -!- obnauticus_ [~obnauticu@192.241.240.229] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:50:07 -!- fest_ [~fest@188.226.203.53] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:50:15 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:50:26 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: fest, talsit, jaeckel, jpa-, nighty-, obnauticus, nikomo, XTL, emeryth 2016-08-08T21:50:26 -!- fest_ is now known as fest 2016-08-08T21:50:26 -!- talsit_ is now known as talsit 2016-08-08T21:50:27 -!- nikomo_ [~quassel@91.121.76.207] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:50:28 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@128.243.75.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T21:51:32 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 98 secs 2016-08-08T21:54:40 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T22:00:54 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T22:01:47 -!- trezer [~trezer@114.125.175.3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T22:02:20 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T22:13:07 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S01065039555ab39f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T22:15:42 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T22:31:29 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/eY4pqt.png 2016-08-08T22:31:34 < Laurenceb> SP1ML failing hard 2016-08-08T22:36:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S01065039555ab39f.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-08T22:45:07 < Steffanx> .. 2016-08-08T23:00:39 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T23:02:45 < upgrdman> so are we still dongs-less? 2016-08-08T23:05:42 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-08T23:07:21 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-08-08T23:07:21 -!- dongs was kicked from ##stm32 by Steffanx [dongs] 2016-08-08T23:07:23 <@Steffanx> yes we are :P 2016-08-08T23:07:29 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx 2016-08-08T23:08:22 < Steffanx> No auto-join, im surprised. 2016-08-08T23:08:53 < owl-v-> lol dongs 2016-08-08T23:09:02 < ReadError> he was talking about some dumb game on efnet 2016-08-08T23:09:10 < Steffanx> when? 2016-08-08T23:09:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T23:09:25 < ReadError> https://i.snag.gy/yCNGn5.jpg 2016-08-08T23:09:38 < ReadError> last 24hrs 2016-08-08T23:09:45 < Steffanx> hm ok 2016-08-08T23:10:21 < Steffanx> spying much? 2016-08-08T23:10:34 < upgrdman> well at least he isnt ded 2016-08-08T23:10:38 < ReadError> huh, ive been in that channel for a decade 2016-08-08T23:11:46 < Steffanx> Then he is just messing with us 2016-08-08T23:12:21 < upgrdman> so uh, i have two 2TB hdd's i want windows to see as one 4TB hdd. i know i can use raid, but is there a way to do this such that if one drive fails, i only lose half my data? iirc, raid stripping will interleave which would be a problem if one drive fails. 2016-08-08T23:13:05 < zyp> JBOD 2016-08-08T23:13:43 < zyp> also, the notion «I'll only lose half my data» is silly 2016-08-08T23:14:18 < upgrdman> hows that silly? 2016-08-08T23:15:12 < upgrdman> i'd hate to lose any data, but if its going to happen, having half left over is better than none 2016-08-08T23:15:41 < Steffanx> better buy 2 times 4GB then. or more 2016-08-08T23:16:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T23:16:43 < zyp> upgrdman, because you'll lose half the underlying storage under a file system, not half your files 2016-08-08T23:17:01 < upgrdman> well here's what im doing. i currently have two 4TB usb hdd's. im going to de-usb one of them. it's basically dual 2TB drives with a sata raid -> usb board in the enclosure. i use one usb drive to hold my data, and the other usb drive to hold an offline backup of the same data. synched ~monthly. 2016-08-08T23:17:39 < upgrdman> zyp, that's what i mean. is there a tech that will split the *files* not the filesystem, across two drives? 2016-08-08T23:18:10 < upgrdman> like if i have d:/foo d:/bar d:/baz, i want something that will put foo one drive a and bar on drive b, etc... automagically 2016-08-08T23:18:11 < zyp> sure, just keep it as two drives and put half the files on each 2016-08-08T23:18:17 < upgrdman> but im lazy 2016-08-08T23:18:27 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-08-08T23:18:33 -!- dongs [~dongs@bcas.tv] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T23:18:41 < upgrdman> he's back 2016-08-08T23:18:46 <@Steffanx> join on invite ;) 2016-08-08T23:18:52 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx 2016-08-08T23:19:11 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T23:19:15 < zyp> quick, make a bunch of stupid channels and invite him there 2016-08-08T23:19:27 < Fleck> :D 2016-08-08T23:19:30 < Steffanx> sounds like a good idea. 2016-08-08T23:19:44 < englishman> ##stm64 2016-08-08T23:21:07 < Steffanx> doesn't fork sadly 2016-08-08T23:21:14 < Steffanx> *work 2016-08-08T23:21:51 < Tectu> Interesting 2016-08-08T23:22:02 < Tectu> maybe dongs is an AI 2016-08-08T23:22:25 < upgrdman> my mobo arrived today. gtx1080 arrives tomorrow. the promiseland is in sight! 2016-08-08T23:22:36 < upgrdman> i guess it's time for me to sign up for Steam 2016-08-08T23:22:47 < Tectu> are you back in saneland yet, upgrdman ? 2016-08-08T23:22:50 < upgrdman> ya 2016-08-08T23:22:53 < Steffanx> Join tectu and the others for some insurgency. 2016-08-08T23:23:00 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-08T23:23:03 < upgrdman> ya what games do you fags play? 2016-08-08T23:23:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-08T23:23:46 < Tectu> insurgency, doom, factorio, ugfx, ashes and lots of other crap 2016-08-08T23:24:01 < Tectu> but these days mainly insurgency 2016-08-08T23:24:10 < upgrdman> link plz 2016-08-08T23:24:22 < Tectu> http://store.steampowered.com/app/222880/ 2016-08-08T23:24:42 < zyp> meh, fps 2016-08-08T23:24:58 < englishman> ugfx is a shit game 2016-08-08T23:25:04 < Tectu> yes it is 2016-08-08T23:25:25 < Tectu> yet better than that emWin stuff 2016-08-08T23:25:32 < Tectu> gaben approves 2016-08-08T23:26:11 < zyp> is insurgenxy any fun? 2016-08-08T23:26:17 < zyp> video just shows shooting at stuff 2016-08-08T23:26:24 < Tectu> it's quite good imho 2016-08-08T23:26:26 < Tectu> I can recommend 2016-08-08T23:26:30 < zyp> «look at all the weapons you can shoot» 2016-08-08T23:26:41 < Steffanx> you die insanly fast too 2016-08-08T23:26:45 < ReadError> upgrdman 2016-08-08T23:26:46 < zyp> cheap though 2016-08-08T23:26:51 < ReadError> windows has some amazing new filesystem 2016-08-08T23:26:54 < ReadError> apparently 2016-08-08T23:27:14 < ReadError> made for software style 'raid' 2016-08-08T23:27:18 < Steffanx> apple too right? A bit zfs-ish iirc. 2016-08-08T23:27:25 < ReadError> yea apple too 2016-08-08T23:27:40 < upgrdman> insurgency is $10? is this some pay-as-you-go thing, or are games way cheaper than back in 2004? 2016-08-08T23:27:41 < Tectu> zfs-ish sounds awesome 2016-08-08T23:27:50 < Tectu> upgrdman, it was free back in 2004 2016-08-08T23:28:00 < Tectu> when I first played it like years ago it was free 2016-08-08T23:28:02 < Steffanx> no in app buy crap upgrdman 2016-08-08T23:28:08 < Tectu> and it's one-time payment 2016-08-08T23:28:16 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-08T23:28:32 < upgrdman> i remember paying like $60 for new titles, and like $15 for old titles 2016-08-08T23:28:39 < zyp> nah, fuck insurgency, lemme know when you're playing any multiplayer games that are actually fun 2016-08-08T23:28:43 < upgrdman> shit, this is a good time to get back into gaming 2016-08-08T23:28:46 < ReadError> I bet Tectu the kinda guy that launches vim.exe through steam 2016-08-08T23:28:49 < Tectu> zyp, insurgency is a lot of fun 2016-08-08T23:28:51 < ReadError> so people know he playin 2016-08-08T23:28:51 < upgrdman> zyp, what games do you like 2016-08-08T23:28:58 < Tectu> upgrdman, nah, it's "new" that insurgency is non-free 2016-08-08T23:29:01 < zyp> Tectu, doesn't look fun to me 2016-08-08T23:29:04 < upgrdman> i have not gamed at all since 2004 (excpet for android shitz) 2016-08-08T23:29:07 < Tectu> zyp, don't judge by the cover 2016-08-08T23:29:14 < Steffanx> Red Alert 2 / Generals is more for zyp? 2016-08-08T23:29:18 < Tectu> upgrdman, time to loose your virginity 2016-08-08T23:29:26 < Tectu> upgrdman, btw. how did that japanese girl date go? 2016-08-08T23:29:28 < zyp> upgrdman, idk, I don't play much 2016-08-08T23:29:42 < zyp> apart from 61 hours of rimworld recently :p 2016-08-08T23:29:59 < Tectu> "recently" 2016-08-08T23:30:09 < zyp> yeah, last two weeks or so 2016-08-08T23:30:17 < Steffanx> You must play factorio too then. 2016-08-08T23:30:26 < zyp> I did a couple of months ago 2016-08-08T23:30:26 < Tectu> factorio is quite good 2016-08-08T23:30:34 < Steffanx> i hated it. 2016-08-08T23:30:40 < zyp> hmm, got 92 hours in factorio according to steam 2016-08-08T23:30:51 < Steffanx> Way too slow. 2016-08-08T23:30:53 < Tectu> somebody is unemployed 2016-08-08T23:31:02 < zyp> I weren't when I played factorio 2016-08-08T23:31:06 < upgrdman> Tectu, chinese. i enjoyed it, but it turned out to just be a nice woman, not a date. she brought he 1yr old daughter. was quite enjoyable though, and she was sweet 2016-08-08T23:31:32 < Tectu> upgrdman, glad to hear that. somehow. 2016-08-08T23:32:05 < zyp> «glad to hear she couldn't steal you from me» 2016-08-08T23:32:22 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-08T23:34:53 -!- AmarOk_ [~AmarOk@7.220.24.109.rev.sfr.net] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 1.0.1"] 2016-08-08T23:57:40 -!- nikomo_ is now known as nikomo 2016-08-08T23:59:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-e2b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] --- Day changed Tue Aug 09 2016 2016-08-09T00:00:28 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-09T00:20:06 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T00:24:35 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T00:24:59 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T00:26:40 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-09T00:30:19 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T00:31:48 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T00:41:32 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-09T00:43:18 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/eY4pqt.png truly epin fail 2016-08-09T00:43:22 < upgrdman> o wow, my 4tb usb hdd may just be one hdd inside, not 2 raid'd. http://www.servethehome.com/seagate-4tb-2-5-sata-hdd-124-get-ready-density/ 2016-08-09T00:43:31 < Laurenceb__> amazing duty cycle 2016-08-09T00:43:37 < upgrdman> Laurenceb__, wuts that 2016-08-09T00:43:52 < Laurenceb__> upgrdman: a 2FSK discriminator in matlab 2016-08-09T00:43:58 < Laurenceb__> looking at SP1ML output 2016-08-09T00:44:19 < Laurenceb__> I don't get whats going on but it looks very fail 2016-08-09T00:44:50 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T00:44:51 < Laurenceb__> I suspect there is a 512byte buffer and some sort of stupid logic to sequence transmission 2016-08-09T00:45:14 < Laurenceb__> looks like the only fix is to rewrite the firmware 2016-08-09T00:48:54 < Steffanx> "I'm doing it wrong" is not an option? 2016-08-09T00:49:40 < Laurenceb__> nope 2016-08-09T00:49:45 < Laurenceb__> this is with hyperterminal 2016-08-09T00:50:35 < Steffanx> it's not somehow configured to "obey" the duty cycle rules etc? 2016-08-09T00:50:50 < Laurenceb__> hmmm 2016-08-09T00:51:05 < Laurenceb__> interesting idea but the duty cycle rules are far from simple 2016-08-09T00:51:29 < Laurenceb__> my device is compliance anyway, so if they were trying to do that they failed 2016-08-09T00:52:25 < Laurenceb__> although it could be trying to follow FCC rules 2016-08-09T00:52:28 < upgrdman> Laurenceb__, discriminator == demodulator? 2016-08-09T00:52:56 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-09T00:53:12 < Laurenceb__> well - its not properly bit aligned 2016-08-09T00:53:14 < upgrdman> is that some brit thing? never heard it called a discrim before 2016-08-09T00:53:24 < Laurenceb__> ok, maybe 2016-08-09T00:53:39 < Laurenceb__> discriminator != demodulator 2016-08-09T00:53:48 < Laurenceb__> demodulator is normally the whole system 2016-08-09T00:54:54 < Laurenceb__> this is just abs(abs(f_1)-abs(f_2)) to see when there is a sane signal present 2016-08-09T00:55:10 < Laurenceb__> so a type of discriminator 2016-08-09T00:55:44 < Laurenceb__> abs(f_1)-abs(f_2) would be a discriminator used for a data demodulator 2016-08-09T00:58:31 < Laurenceb__> actually the 915mhz version is FCC, 868 isnt, so it cant be that 2016-08-09T01:00:06 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-09T01:01:11 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T01:02:22 < Laurenceb__> "general/telemetry" is allowed at 869.85Mhz with 100% duty cycle, so I'm ok 2016-08-09T01:02:58 < Steffanx> 100% wut. 2016-08-09T01:05:35 < Steffanx> no freq. hopping etc? 2016-08-09T01:06:09 < Laurenceb__> nope you can use 869.85 without any of that 2016-08-09T01:07:54 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-09T01:09:50 < Steffanx> hm ok 2016-08-09T01:11:05 < Laurenceb__> also its a bit above 10% duty cycle, which doesnt appear in the spec 2016-08-09T01:11:21 < Laurenceb__> unless... they are in France or Italy 2016-08-09T01:11:24 * Laurenceb__ checks 2016-08-09T01:18:16 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-09T01:21:12 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKZXR5Z29ObFFpcmM/view?usp=sharing 2016-08-09T01:21:21 < kakimir> strain gauges installed 2016-08-09T01:21:31 < ReadError> still working on the israelioven? 2016-08-09T01:21:54 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKRGlpdFNEX3hjT3M/view?usp=sharing it actually sits on forklift 2016-08-09T01:22:46 < ReadError> you have a forklift at your house? 2016-08-09T01:22:50 < kakimir> sure 2016-08-09T01:22:54 < ReadError> or a pallet jack 2016-08-09T01:22:55 < Getty> you dont? 2016-08-09T01:23:01 < kakimir> pallet jack 2016-08-09T01:23:08 < ReadError> ok huge difference ;) 2016-08-09T01:23:17 < kakimir> also frame steering small utility tractor 2016-08-09T01:23:18 < ReadError> 1 is fun, the other is work 2016-08-09T01:23:24 < kakimir> with forklift 2016-08-09T01:24:12 < kakimir> to front thing that moves up down and tilts 2016-08-09T01:25:07 < kakimir> forklifts are made and used in shitloads so if you really want one you can get older one for thousand or under 2016-08-09T01:25:08 < ReadError> yea thats not tokyo drifting through a warehouse with a pallet full of shit cool 2016-08-09T01:25:36 < upgrdman> so is crysis3 out? 2016-08-09T01:25:45 < upgrdman> i dont see it on stream, but i hear the name a lot 2016-08-09T01:25:49 < upgrdman> steam even 2016-08-09T01:27:00 < kakimir> http://pihafixi.fi/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/avant520.jpg this thing 2016-08-09T01:27:24 < ReadError> that looks finnish as hell 2016-08-09T01:27:27 < upgrdman> is that what you use to carry your girlfriend? 2016-08-09T01:28:25 < kakimir> that is finnish as hell actually 2016-08-09T01:28:37 < kakimir> also the most robust thing I have ever seen 2016-08-09T01:28:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T01:29:43 < kakimir> ours has like 7000hours to it and it has not needed anything but consumable materials 2016-08-09T01:31:11 < kakimir> it's doesn't even have anything loose in it.. like new 2016-08-09T01:32:51 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T01:44:42 < Laurenceb__> https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9496227&cid=52663189 2016-08-09T01:48:46 < Laurenceb__> https://media.8ch.net/newsplus/src/1470285353468.webm 2016-08-09T02:01:02 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-sFhCC39Ws 2016-08-09T02:01:06 < Laurenceb__> ok enough lulz 2016-08-09T02:02:03 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ did you watch the story about alantutorial yet 2016-08-09T02:02:06 < ReadError> or is it too deep 2016-08-09T02:02:28 < Laurenceb__> too long 2016-08-09T02:02:35 < ReadError> "tehehe" 2016-08-09T02:02:40 < Laurenceb__> aint nobody got tiem fo dat 2016-08-09T02:05:47 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T02:07:47 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T02:11:35 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-09T02:12:37 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T02:20:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-09T02:23:47 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg 2016-08-09T02:36:08 < kakimir> how does uni students have time to protest anything? 2016-08-09T02:36:51 < jadew> that's all they have 2016-08-09T02:37:22 < kakimir> at least tech students do not have 2016-08-09T02:37:44 < jadew> and that's what you get for allowing mediocre people to think they're smart 2016-08-09T02:37:48 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T02:38:00 < jadew> they start protesting about shit they don't like 2016-08-09T02:38:30 < jadew> cuz you know, they're smart so they must be right 2016-08-09T02:38:58 < kakimir> why there is universities with "humanisties sciences" ? 2016-08-09T02:39:12 < kakimir> *academic disciplines 2016-08-09T02:39:24 < jadew> because those mediocre people eventually ended up as teachers 2016-08-09T02:39:35 < kakimir> I don't understand what is the product of such institution 2016-08-09T02:40:54 < kakimir> other than produce over-studied work force for public services 2016-08-09T02:41:08 < jadew> a welfare dependent person that follows twitter a lot and is about to get its dreams crushed 2016-08-09T02:41:35 < kakimir> ? 2016-08-09T02:42:02 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T02:42:10 < jadew> not all of them 2016-08-09T02:42:42 < jadew> but they all dream about doing a lot more in their field than it's possible 2016-08-09T02:43:22 < jadew> in here we had a lot of people going to law school for many years in a row 2016-08-09T02:43:51 < jadew> it got so overcrowded that most of them ended up on welfare or in super shitty positions 2016-08-09T02:44:28 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T02:44:40 < kakimir> law school here experienced inflation 2016-08-09T02:45:43 < kakimir> entry level dropped dramatically 2016-08-09T02:45:56 < jadew> we got more universities to cover the demand 2016-08-09T02:46:55 < jadew> it's funny, even tho the average salary for engineering jobs is much much higher than what you can get in law, the last uni I went to still had a ratio of 4:1 law students vs engineering 2016-08-09T02:47:52 < jadew> and the situation I described, was not news even 10 years ago 2016-08-09T02:48:03 < ReadError> Hong Kong cryptocurrency exchange Bitfinex, which last week closed itself down after being hacked, has now told account-holders they'll all have to pay for the mess by surrendering some of their account balance. 2016-08-09T02:48:10 < ReadError> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/08/broken_bitbank_bitfinex_shaves_36_from_all_accounts/ 2016-08-09T02:49:30 < jadew> lol 2016-08-09T02:50:25 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-09T02:50:42 < kakimir> jadew: because fuck engineering right? 2016-08-09T02:51:07 < jadew> kakimir, yeah, it's funny but I always felt like they viewed us as second class citizens 2016-08-09T02:51:19 < jadew> don't really understand why 2016-08-09T02:51:24 < kakimir> they do 2016-08-09T02:52:16 < jadew> and I have quite a few friends that finished law (actually, most of them) 2016-08-09T02:52:33 < jadew> none of them works in the field 2016-08-09T02:52:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T02:57:54 < jadew> probably the "nerd" thing, just that we don't have a name for it 2016-08-09T02:58:21 < kakimir> nerd thing? 2016-08-09T02:58:46 < jadew> how it's uncool to be a nerd 2016-08-09T02:59:19 < kakimir> it is true 2016-08-09T03:05:01 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/VwosZUJM63U?t=1386 'widlar method' 2016-08-09T03:08:55 -!- Chip_Freyer [~Chip.Frey@node254.13.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T03:09:14 < kakimir> you may not see it right away but AvE is actually entertainment channel 2016-08-09T03:09:38 < kakimir> more than eduncation 2016-08-09T03:10:48 < ReadError> .... 2016-08-09T03:15:37 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-09T03:16:36 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juXmjdqb6hA 2016-08-09T03:23:25 < Rob235> would attaching the video tx on the bottom help? 2016-08-09T03:32:45 < inca> anyone used CubeMX's usb host? 2016-08-09T03:38:28 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T03:40:28 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/n8PLvOX.png 2016-08-09T03:42:34 < inca> or any STM32F4 USB Host ? 2016-08-09T03:59:39 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T04:00:12 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-09T04:08:19 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T04:09:14 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T04:11:04 < aandrew> inca: not usb host no 2016-08-09T04:11:06 < aandrew> device yes 2016-08-09T04:12:29 < inca> I wish I knew the intended state diagram for ST's USB driver layers 2016-08-09T04:12:43 < inca> particularly HID, I suppose 2016-08-09T04:24:34 -!- Chip_Freyer [~Chip.Frey@node254.13.251.72.1dial.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 28.0/20140314220517]] 2016-08-09T04:25:19 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-09T04:26:26 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T04:43:16 < inca> for instance, USBH_HID_SetProtocol() 2016-08-09T04:43:26 < inca> which is boot and which is report? 2016-08-09T04:43:32 < inca> 1 or 0? 2016-08-09T04:43:53 < inca> especially with this line: phost->Control.setup.b.wValue.w = protocol != 0 ? 0 : 1; 2016-08-09T04:45:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T04:49:35 < upgrdman> that moment when you need to use tin snips when building your new pc... http://farrellf.com/temp/new_pc_build.jpg 2016-08-09T04:49:39 < inca> 7.2.6 Set_Protocol Request... 0 is boot, 1 is report at Control.setup.b.wValue.w 2016-08-09T04:49:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:7945:3255:d90b:3795] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T04:49:54 < upgrdman> also, socketed DIP on a motherboard in 2016, lolwut 2016-08-09T04:59:38 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T05:03:42 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T05:11:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T05:22:12 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T05:22:40 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T05:26:03 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-09T05:26:22 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T05:28:46 < inca> USBH_InterruptReceiveData() is the bane of my existence 2016-08-09T05:28:50 < englishman> Lol nice, pro gamming written right on it, so you can be sure you're gaming like a pro 2016-08-09T05:29:23 < ReadError> the fuck is up w/ that heatsink 2016-08-09T05:29:36 < ReadError> i thought most went to the vert style 2016-08-09T05:33:29 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T05:52:01 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T05:52:44 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T05:58:14 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T05:59:09 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-09T06:00:09 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-09T06:01:00 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-08-09T06:02:42 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T06:26:18 < inca> URB_NOTREADY 2016-08-09T06:29:58 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-08-09T06:31:09 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T06:33:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-09T06:33:23 < englishman> any defcon vidz up yet 2016-08-09T06:33:34 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T06:33:58 < upgrdman_> ReadError, its a low profile HSF. itx case 2016-08-09T06:38:28 < ReadError> do you not like yourself? :( 2016-08-09T06:38:34 < ReadError> why punish 2016-08-09T06:39:01 < upgrdman_> i wanted a pc that is portable but with big gpu 2016-08-09T06:39:43 < upgrdman_> and something portable with desktop cpu 2016-08-09T06:39:58 < englishman> whats the power supply : rest of computer ratio? 2016-08-09T06:40:24 < upgrdman_> volume wise? 2016-08-09T06:40:31 < upgrdman_> psu is maybe 20% of volume 2016-08-09T06:40:40 < upgrdman_> sfx, 450w 2016-08-09T06:41:04 < ReadError> 450? 2016-08-09T06:41:07 < ReadError> you wanted a gaming rig? 2016-08-09T06:41:14 < upgrdman_> my gtx1080 arrived tomorrow 2016-08-09T06:41:19 < upgrdman_> ya, 450 is plenty 2016-08-09T06:41:23 < upgrdman_> arrives* 2016-08-09T06:41:48 < upgrdman_> cpu is 90w tdp, gpu is what 200w tdp? and not much else. so plenty of headroom 2016-08-09T06:42:22 < ReadError> how many A on 12V ? 2016-08-09T06:43:22 < upgrdman_> lemme check 2016-08-09T06:44:22 < upgrdman_> lol 2016-08-09T06:44:25 < upgrdman_> supposedly 36A 2016-08-09T06:44:51 < upgrdman_> but their math doesnt add up. 450psu, but wattage of all rails adds to like 600w 2016-08-09T06:45:12 < upgrdman_> see here http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-202-integra-sfx-450w-psu 2016-08-09T06:48:59 < ReadError> did your mobo hype up the DAC? 2016-08-09T06:49:06 < ReadError> thats the 'in' thing right now 2016-08-09T06:50:15 < upgrdman_> ya 2016-08-09T06:50:27 < upgrdman_> fuck if i care, i use bluetooth audio 2016-08-09T06:50:27 < ReadError> is it upgradable? 2016-08-09T06:50:32 < upgrdman_> no 2016-08-09T06:50:36 < ReadError> some are doing that lol 2016-08-09T06:50:47 < ReadError> because (#@$*(*SDFU 2016-08-09T06:50:50 < upgrdman_> but they even have isolation traces on PCB around audio region 2016-08-09T06:50:59 < upgrdman_> and an led that lights up the isolation track 2016-08-09T06:51:00 < upgrdman_> like 2016-08-09T06:51:07 < englishman> i bet this talk will be full of lulz http://www.tomsguide.com/us/bluetooth-lock-hacks-defcon2016,news-23129.html 2016-08-09T06:51:09 < upgrdman_> they removed the black silk to show the isolation even 2016-08-09T06:51:17 < ReadError> my mobo came with all kinds of gay little panels 2016-08-09T06:51:24 < ReadError> to prevent dust or something? 2016-08-09T06:51:28 < ReadError> looks dumb 2016-08-09T06:51:46 < upgrdman_> i think its just for looks. for all the fags with windowed cases 2016-08-09T06:51:48 < englishman> bluetooth bicycle lock, wtf 2016-08-09T06:52:16 < ReadError> https://dlcdnimgs.asus.com/websites/global/products/ZQZ0CaZLeuRr4LTX/img/main/overview.png 2016-08-09T06:54:03 < upgrdman_> nice 2016-08-09T06:55:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T06:55:43 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-08-09T06:58:30 < ReadError> hands behind my head spinning it like a helicopter 2016-08-09T06:58:40 < upgrdman> R2COM, what games do you like. 2016-08-09T06:58:44 < upgrdman> my gpu arrived tomorrow 2016-08-09T06:58:53 < upgrdman> gaming rig is up and running now 2016-08-09T06:59:30 < ReadError> try some mavis beacon bish 2016-08-09T07:03:04 < upgrdman> is COD MW good? 2016-08-09T07:04:49 < upgrdman> fallout 4 good? 2016-08-09T07:04:52 < upgrdman> i got a gtx1080 2016-08-09T07:05:13 < upgrdman> i wanna game at 4k 2016-08-09T07:05:41 < upgrdman> and $2k will buy a gtx1080 + excellent rest of rig 2016-08-09T07:05:53 < englishman> i irc in 4k with INTEL GFX 2016-08-09T07:06:02 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzczhnpapatjerpi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T07:07:10 < upgrdman> no 2016-08-09T07:07:13 < upgrdman> i need to sign up 2016-08-09T07:07:20 < upgrdman> im waiting for my gpu 2016-08-09T07:07:23 < ReadError> my moniturds shipped today 2016-08-09T07:08:33 < upgrdman> i used to enjoy: q3a, ut2004, doom3, red alert 2, etc. 2016-08-09T07:08:44 < upgrdman> as you can see, its been a while :) 2016-08-09T07:09:32 < ReadError> dont fall for it 2016-08-09T07:09:34 < upgrdman> R2COM, my itx rig: http://farrellf.com/temp/new_pc_build.jpg 2016-08-09T07:09:55 < ReadError> playing dumb crafting space games 2016-08-09T07:10:17 < ReadError> he gonna end up with 9 ipad displays pissing in jugs playing eve 2016-08-09T07:10:21 < ReadError> im trying to save him 2016-08-09T07:11:51 < ReadError> yea well you cant ride a unicorn, why dont you play everquest 2016-08-09T07:12:31 < ReadError> maybe thats the problem. 2016-08-09T07:18:50 < owl-v-> is AVR32 officially dead? 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2016-08-09T08:25:28 < Thorn> spi? 2016-08-09T08:26:18 < LeelooMinai> Hmm, not sure if it would work - the "packets" are 24 bits 6x 4 bits 2016-08-09T08:27:14 < LeelooMinai> It's not fast fortunatelly, so the EXTI method probably will work, but still - wonder if there are better methods. 2016-08-09T08:27:31 < LeelooMinai> I know it's not FPGA, but... :) 2016-08-09T08:29:46 < LeelooMinai> Looking at timers if I could use them in some weird way, but not sure - seems they can timestamp some external events, but that's not exactly useful. 2016-08-09T08:37:11 < jpa-_> SPI should work, it can handle continuous data so you'll get your 24 bits as 3 bytes 2016-08-09T08:37:40 < Thorn> I'm looking at rm0038 section 28.2.2. spi has i2s mode which supports 24-bit frames directly 2016-08-09T08:37:53 -!- You're now known as jpa- 2016-08-09T08:37:56 < Thorn> if normal spi is somehow unusable 2016-08-09T08:38:05 < jpa-> Thorn: does it have i2s slave? 2016-08-09T08:38:17 < Thorn> >Master or slave operations 2016-08-09T08:38:20 < jpa-> ok :) 2016-08-09T08:38:38 < Thorn> of course one should look into the errata before saying anything lol 2016-08-09T08:38:47 < Thorn> this is stm32 after all 2016-08-09T08:43:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-43b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T09:00:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-43b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T09:19:54 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uzczhnpapatjerpi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-09T09:20:09 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T09:22:43 < qyx> input capture & DMAing capture register would work probably too 2016-08-09T09:26:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T09:26:45 -!- esden [esden@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T09:29:16 -!- esden [esden@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T09:34:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-09T09:36:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T09:42:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T10:14:23 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T10:15:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T10:23:20 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T10:34:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T10:38:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-09T10:43:09 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-09T10:43:19 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T10:45:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-09T10:50:32 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T11:00:47 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-09T11:01:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-09T11:12:37 -!- jon1012_ [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T11:13:18 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T11:14:33 -!- jon1012_ [~jon@81-64-217-145.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-09T11:22:49 -!- debris` [debris@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-cyzbvwvldzrwfwco] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T11:26:31 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@1.128.97.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T11:29:37 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-09T11:29:43 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T11:35:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T11:43:03 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-09T11:43:24 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T11:48:47 < Ecco> if I define uint64_t * foo = 0x10000000; 2016-08-09T11:48:53 < Ecco> What bytes would it cover? 2016-08-09T11:49:12 < Ecco> 0x10000000 through 0x10000008 ? 2016-08-09T11:54:24 < jpa-> 0x10000000 to 0x10000007 2016-08-09T11:56:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T11:57:10 < Ecco> yeah right 2016-08-09T11:57:12 < Ecco> ok thanks :) 2016-08-09T12:00:37 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-09T12:01:15 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T12:01:45 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T12:12:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T12:12:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T12:13:24 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T12:13:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.116] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T12:19:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.181.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T12:25:05 < Jak_o_Shadows> So IU just discovered the difference between the stm32f429iDISC0 and the DISC1 2016-08-09T12:25:07 < Jak_o_Shadows> sigh 2016-08-09T12:25:23 < jpa-> so what is it? 2016-08-09T12:25:56 < Jak_o_Shadows> the DISC1 has a st-link v2.1, the DISC0 has a v2 2016-08-09T12:26:02 < Jak_o_Shadows> v2.1 has the usb-serial inuilt 2016-08-09T12:26:58 < jpa-> ah 2016-08-09T12:27:14 < Jak_o_Shadows> So going to use the nucelo as a usb-serial bridge for a little whlie 2016-08-09T12:28:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.116] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-09T12:31:44 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T12:35:19 < Laurenceb__> http://archive.sonichu.com/cwcville/ 2016-08-09T12:40:13 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@37.235.63.165] has quit [Quit: hop] 2016-08-09T12:41:04 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T13:01:35 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T13:19:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T13:20:01 < Tectu> Good morning, ##stm32 people. How's the weather? 2016-08-09T13:21:31 < Ultrasauce> bit cool this morning 2016-08-09T13:21:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-09T13:22:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T13:23:53 < Tectu> that's good 2016-08-09T13:23:56 < Tectu> nobody likes it hot 2016-08-09T13:24:00 < Tectu> or at least nobody should 2016-08-09T13:24:48 < jpa-> cold sauna sucks 2016-08-09T13:24:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T13:28:59 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-09T13:29:57 < Tectu> hah 2016-08-09T13:30:17 < Tectu> isn't it a sport up there at you guys to jump into some ice-y lake after getting out of the sauna? 2016-08-09T13:31:20 < jpa-> it's not sport any more than pooping is a sport in your country 2016-08-09T13:33:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T13:33:49 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-09T13:35:48 < Tectu> so it's rather a custom? 2016-08-09T13:37:01 < jpa-> i guess so 2016-08-09T13:37:13 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T13:37:16 < Tectu> are you into that too? 2016-08-09T13:37:39 < jpa-> not really 2016-08-09T13:41:33 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T13:41:46 -!- celeron55 [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T13:44:50 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@1.128.97.33] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-09T13:50:53 -!- celeron55 is now known as celeron55_ 2016-08-09T14:06:50 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-09T14:11:52 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T14:20:44 < Laurenceb> poo in the loo 2016-08-09T14:23:02 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU 2016-08-09T14:23:49 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-09T14:36:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.181.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T14:37:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T14:42:13 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T14:47:19 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-09T14:50:11 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T14:58:04 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/OsrCq3q.png so #blessed 2016-08-09T14:59:06 -!- chipsMonstret [sid126449@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmfkctxpnnujvvtq] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-09T15:01:35 < Laurenceb> need enough space for all chan users 2016-08-09T15:01:42 < Tectu> "KawaiiCharge" :D 2016-08-09T15:02:07 < Tectu> is that the horse thing, Laurenceb ? 2016-08-09T15:02:13 < Tectu> oh, that was ReadError, sorry 2016-08-09T15:02:42 < ReadError> Tectu i hate horses. 2016-08-09T15:03:18 < Tectu> ReadError, good, me too. But I think we established that before. 2016-08-09T15:03:32 < Tectu> ReadError, what's kawaiicharge? 2016-08-09T15:03:35 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zosxGbUdLo 2016-08-09T15:05:15 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-09T15:05:16 -!- Laurenceb was kicked from ##stm32 by Tectu [Laurenceb] 2016-08-09T15:05:22 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-09T15:05:24 < englishman> <3 Tectu 2016-08-09T15:05:32 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@128.243.75.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T15:05:35 < Laurenceb> oi 2016-08-09T15:06:17 < Tectu> hi englishman 2016-08-09T15:08:12 < englishman> crt, meet lil dongs, yes that is his name https://i.sli.mg/0oYs24.jpg 2016-08-09T15:08:49 < Tectu> please tell me that you didn't name your cat dongs 2016-08-09T15:08:56 < englishman> lil dongs 2016-08-09T15:11:44 < PeterM> my friends cats name is boris 2016-08-09T15:12:00 < PeterM> because he is dumb, but somehow invincible 2016-08-09T15:12:14 < Laurenceb> boris the animal 2016-08-09T15:12:28 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T15:13:02 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20elMaVZ9lg 2016-08-09T15:14:28 < Laurenceb> http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/men-in-black/images/1/13/Boris_The_Animal.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120525085629 2016-08-09T15:14:59 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-09T15:16:51 < PeterM> https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/676822909403291648/NfdDiW9V.jpg 2016-08-09T15:17:07 < ReadError> seems legit 2016-08-09T15:18:56 < ReadError> Tectu http://i.imgur.com/SVrNc0x.png 2016-08-09T15:19:06 < ReadError> little keychain battery charger thing 2016-08-09T15:19:33 < Steffanx> no 3d magnet yet? 2016-08-09T15:19:33 < Tectu> ReadError, I hate to be "that guy" but... why would I need a battery charger on my key chain? :D 2016-08-09T15:19:45 < ReadError> Tectu could save your life one day bud 2016-08-09T15:19:50 < ReadError> stranded 2016-08-09T15:19:54 < ReadError> dead cellphone 2016-08-09T15:20:01 < ReadError> nothing but a vape pen full of wax 2016-08-09T15:20:13 < ReadError> well you can use that battery to charge your phone 2016-08-09T15:20:19 < Tectu> "KawaiiCharger", "Brotronics" what is this? Trollcorp? 2016-08-09T15:20:23 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-09T15:20:40 < Tectu> lol, this is a power bank for vapers? 2016-08-09T15:20:51 < ReadError> no 2016-08-09T15:20:59 < ReadError> its seriously a battery charger 2016-08-09T15:21:16 < ReadError> slash discharger slash checker thing 2016-08-09T15:21:21 < Tectu> but... 2016-08-09T15:21:24 < Tectu> there's a micro USB 2016-08-09T15:21:28 < Tectu> where does the other end go? 2016-08-09T15:21:42 < ReadError> theres 2 provisions 2016-08-09T15:21:50 < ReadError> see the little thin pads on the tab things 2016-08-09T15:22:25 < ReadError> ill solder some stiff wire to that and it will run the length of the board (left to right) 2016-08-09T15:22:36 < ReadError> then they can be bent out and poked into something 2016-08-09T15:22:52 < ReadError> other way is magnet on pad, on the back of the board 2016-08-09T15:23:01 < ReadError> then a flying magnet is on a wire 2016-08-09T15:23:09 < ReadError> wraps around thing tab shit when not in use 2016-08-09T15:23:19 < ReadError> and sticks to the + nipple 2016-08-09T15:23:19 < Tectu> you need an explainer video with Morgan Freeman voice over 2016-08-09T15:23:47 < ReadError> its cool, paid some swiss gal 200/euro an hour to let me run the idea past her 2016-08-09T15:23:58 < ReadError> she said its legit 2016-08-09T15:24:12 < Tectu> now I am seriously confused 2016-08-09T15:24:15 < Tectu> what on earth is happening? 2016-08-09T15:24:19 < Tectu> am I being trolled? 2016-08-09T15:24:28 < Tectu> don't troll me. I have that condition. trolldetector is down. 2016-08-09T15:24:44 < ReadError> Tectu nope 2016-08-09T15:24:50 < ReadError> also PeterM 2016-08-09T15:24:56 < ReadError> you see my assberger pro level idea 2016-08-09T15:25:11 < ReadError> using the 5v boost from one board to input of another 2016-08-09T15:25:54 < Steffanx> A real assberger would die from this design ReadError. 2016-08-09T15:26:10 < ReadError> feature not bug 2016-08-09T15:26:24 < Steffanx> Why are the 5V in/out not equally sized etc. :P 2016-08-09T15:26:50 < ReadError> 2 layer 2016-08-09T15:27:06 < ReadError> its made so when its flipped they line up 2016-08-09T15:27:14 < Steffanx> Anyway, it does not a hole for the key chain ring thing. 2016-08-09T15:27:29 < ReadError> im making some little kydex sleeves 2016-08-09T15:27:31 < Tectu> magnets. 2016-08-09T15:27:41 < ReadError> durable, cheap, perfect for this 2016-08-09T15:28:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T15:29:55 < Steffanx> Can't you 3d us some complete example of how this all is connected ReadError? 2016-08-09T15:30:10 < ReadError> Steffanx I cant assberger that hard 2016-08-09T15:30:19 < ReadError> 3d models is uggh 2016-08-09T15:30:23 < ReadError> eaglemakershit 2016-08-09T15:30:27 < Steffanx> yet easy in solidworks 2016-08-09T15:30:31 < Tectu> lol this: http://images.wasted.earth:1339/uploads/big/fc2b2b60ec4a4f574093e2026367ee93.jpeg 2016-08-09T15:30:43 < ReadError> ill have the boards in a few days 2016-08-09T15:30:47 < ReadError> it will make sense and kickass 2016-08-09T15:30:59 < Steffanx> but this is to charge single cells right? 2016-08-09T15:31:02 < ReadError> ya 2016-08-09T15:31:07 < ReadError> I have another one for 2 2016-08-09T15:31:08 < Tectu> will you kickstarter it? Because you lack arudino shield headers 2016-08-09T15:31:19 < ReadError> Tectu no, I went hard and ordered 15 2016-08-09T15:31:23 < ReadError> thats all that will ever be made 2016-08-09T15:31:33 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T15:31:45 < ReadError> I need to finish 3 more things then chinafab it up 2016-08-09T15:31:47 < Tectu> I see them going through ebay for 500.- each in 10 years 2016-08-09T15:31:52 < Tectu> ULTRA RARE!!!111 2016-08-09T15:31:55 < ReadError> lo 2016-08-09T15:32:02 < Tectu> better use dongsfab 2016-08-09T15:32:10 < ReadError> I have a fab 2016-08-09T15:32:20 < ReadError> but this is big pcb stuff 2016-08-09T15:32:34 < ReadError> cant beat 10x10cm for 15$ with a bag of dicks 2016-08-09T15:32:36 < Steffanx> dongs freenode-dead, so no dongs for us. 2016-08-09T15:33:20 < Tectu> nah, I bet he's just installing XP updates or something 2016-08-09T15:33:45 < ReadError> hes blogging on erfnut 2016-08-09T15:34:40 < ReadError> timecop is on @#win32asm_without_jews 2016-08-09T15:34:49 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-09T15:35:36 < jon1012> (I always forget ##stm32 really is ##nazi32) 2016-08-09T15:36:13 < Laurenceb> pol32 2016-08-09T15:36:32 < Sync> > snipped for privacy 2016-08-09T15:36:56 < Tectu> jon1012, you mean 88 2016-08-09T15:37:19 < Tectu> has anyone ever used QSPI stuff? 2016-08-09T15:37:22 < Laurenceb> stm88 2016-08-09T15:38:05 < Steffanx> everyone knows its efnet ReadError. 2016-08-09T15:38:21 < Steffanx> everyone can join efnet and whois timecop and see where he is. 2016-08-09T15:38:35 < Tectu> efnet is still a thing? 2016-08-09T15:38:55 < Steffanx> for the oldies 2016-08-09T15:39:37 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-09T15:40:20 < ReadError> Steffanx not all, no 2016-08-09T15:40:26 < ReadError> +sp 2016-08-09T15:41:09 < Steffanx> ok, but we can see 2 of the channels 2016-08-09T15:41:30 < Laurenceb> too lazy 2016-08-09T15:41:33 < ReadError> yea i just cut everything but the funny one 2016-08-09T15:41:35 < Steffanx> i know because i stalked him using the efnet webclient. 2016-08-09T15:41:41 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-09T15:42:02 < Laurenceb> unclit-2.0 2016-08-09T15:42:29 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T15:43:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-09T15:45:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T15:47:58 < Steffanx> ##childish32 2016-08-09T15:55:27 < Ecco> Any tips on chosing a LED PWM frequency? 2016-08-09T15:55:40 < jpa-> make it hiiigh 2016-08-09T15:55:49 < Ecco> Well, here's what I'm thinking 2016-08-09T15:55:52 < Ecco> but maybe this is bullshit 2016-08-09T15:56:07 < Ecco> -> You want it way above the retina persistance period 2016-08-09T15:56:16 < Ecco> -> You'd like to avoid hearable frequencies 2016-08-09T15:56:45 < ReadError> hey so 2016-08-09T15:56:47 < Ecco> -> Maybe if the frequency is too high I may end up radiating 2016-08-09T15:56:50 < jpa-> correct, and one more -> You might want to have enough PWM steps to be able to dim to very low brightness 2016-08-09T15:56:58 < ReadError> given the duty cycle of an LED 2016-08-09T15:57:09 < ReadError> is there enough time in the off duration to send data 2016-08-09T15:57:12 < Ecco> jpa-: Oh, good point 2016-08-09T15:57:32 < Ecco> So basically you mean I should keep some resolution 2016-08-09T15:57:36 < ReadError> or can the PWM rate be manipulate in such a way that it wouldnt effect light output but can still be 'decoded' ? 2016-08-09T15:57:51 < Ecco> ReadError: steganography? 2016-08-09T15:58:01 < ReadError> awat 2016-08-09T15:58:11 < jpa-> i often use 30kHz 2016-08-09T15:58:16 < ReadError> im thinking along the lines of that 'ethernet over AC' 2016-08-09T15:58:25 < ReadError> but in a flashlight 2016-08-09T15:58:38 < ReadError> yea its pretty autsy 2016-08-09T15:58:47 < jpa-> but 30kHz doesn't allow for full 16-bit resolution, so when i want to dim to very dark, i must lower the frequency 2016-08-09T15:59:04 < ReadError> I want pass data between a driver board and tailcap 2016-08-09T15:59:33 < jpa-> if one wants to be fancy, one adds an inductor + capacitor to make it full SMPS instead of driving switching currents to long cables 2016-08-09T16:00:07 < jpa-> (i wouldn't dare to try and get such PWM design to pass EMC conductive emissions testing, when caps and inductors are pretty cheap) 2016-08-09T16:01:11 < Ecco> ok I didn't get it 2016-08-09T16:03:33 < Laurenceb> http://sonichu.com/cwcki/Sonic_Totem 2016-08-09T16:04:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.166] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T16:05:07 < Laurenceb> wow http://sonichu.com/w/images/thumb/2/2b/0655-CWCsSonichuLicense.JPG/800px-0655-CWCsSonichuLicense.JPG 2016-08-09T16:05:54 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@128.243.75.1] by ChanServ 2016-08-09T16:07:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T16:12:52 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T16:19:08 < ReadError> hey Laurenceb is the brexit drama dead? 2016-08-09T16:24:14 < ReadError> anyone follow graphics card stuff? 2016-08-09T16:24:21 < ReadError> 1060 okay for non gamer? 2016-08-09T16:24:43 < ReadError> for CAD and stuff 2016-08-09T16:24:56 < ReadError> torn between that and the 960 2016-08-09T16:25:08 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-09T16:25:10 < ReadError> 1060 is an extra benjy 2016-08-09T16:25:18 < ReadError> but 6gb vs 2 2016-08-09T16:25:24 < ReadError> err 6 vs 4 2016-08-09T16:25:42 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T16:26:30 < ReadError> but i might diddle in games too 2016-08-09T16:27:16 < Sync> crt: for a good reason 2016-08-09T16:27:54 < Sync> almost tempted to buy a quadro just for cad shits 2016-08-09T16:28:58 < mitrax_> i wonder if they still use the same GPU 2016-08-09T16:29:29 < mitrax_> back in 2000 you could turn a geforce into a quadro by just moving 2 configuration resistors, did it it worked fine 2016-08-09T16:29:57 < ReadError> yea, reflashing BIOS 2016-08-09T16:30:06 < ReadError> I was thinkin about doing that for my ESXi box 2016-08-09T16:30:22 < ReadError> this was after 2000 though, they was usin the 680's 2016-08-09T16:31:33 < ReadError> grabbed teh 1060 2016-08-09T16:31:39 < mitrax_> unless you do some really heavy duty stuff in solidworks it would be retarded to buy a quadro 2016-08-09T16:31:47 < ReadError> son of fuckers are hard as hell to get 2016-08-09T16:32:00 < ReadError> mitrax_ nothing srs biz, mostly just parts to cut 2016-08-09T16:32:03 < Sync> mitrax_: you get there suprisingly quick 2016-08-09T16:32:13 < ReadError> altium stuff 2016-08-09T16:32:21 < Sync> just an assembly with maybe 50 parts will make it suck balls 2016-08-09T16:32:35 < ReadError> but all virtualized, not measured performance vs native 2016-08-09T16:33:29 < mitrax_> sync: alright, i didn't have that feeling, but then again i don't do much CAD stuff 2016-08-09T16:33:32 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T16:33:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T16:34:26 < ReadError> I thought it was more of an issue with rendering accuracy or something? 2016-08-09T16:34:46 < Steffanx> and maybe card/chip reliability 2016-08-09T16:35:05 < Sync> no, performance sucks hard as all the cad tools are not optimzed at all for regular cards 2016-08-09T16:35:20 < ReadError> yea I know for their server stuff I can see that, reliability 2016-08-09T16:35:45 < ReadError> Sync so whats the difference between consumer vs pro with cad? 2016-08-09T16:36:09 < Sync> dem fps 2016-08-09T16:36:37 < ReadError> i mean architecture wise 2016-08-09T16:36:47 < ReadError> hows it optimized for cad instead of other stuff 2016-08-09T16:37:49 < Sync> it is not, I suppose it is just a driver thing 2016-08-09T16:38:02 < Steffanx> not sure how independent, but the difference is larger then i expected: https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Why-you-should-use-a-Quadro-video-card-in-Solidworks-2016-751/ 2016-08-09T16:38:30 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@128.243.75.1] by ChanServ 2016-08-09T16:41:16 < Rob235> herro 2016-08-09T16:42:54 < Steffanx> Yet people claim one can improve a lot with normal geforce cards by changing some nvidia profile(s) 2016-08-09T16:43:02 < ReadError> oh? 2016-08-09T16:43:13 < ReadError> like something low level? 2016-08-09T16:43:27 < Steffanx> i have no find a more reliable source/comparison than just a comment on that blog 2016-08-09T16:43:35 < Steffanx> no not very low level it seems 2016-08-09T16:43:42 < Steffanx> *no = to 2016-08-09T16:44:25 < ReadError> i believe eevblog had a huge post on it 2016-08-09T16:44:34 < ReadError> this was back during the 680 stuff though 2016-08-09T16:44:39 < Steffanx> What cad too do you use ReadError? 2016-08-09T16:44:41 < mitrax_> ReadError: the hardware is no different, it's mostly parts of the gpu that are enabled / disabled (shaders turned on or not) depending on the card model and yes possibly optimized drivers for the quadro, you can probably make a regular geforce perform close to a quadro with some tweakings 2016-08-09T16:44:45 < Steffanx> for 3d work that is 2016-08-09T16:44:51 < ReadError> Steffanx solidworks 2016-08-09T16:56:02 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T16:58:36 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T17:19:35 < Rob235> wow, I never realized what unity mode in vmware was, pretty cool feature 2016-08-09T17:20:27 < Steffanx> i dislike it. 2016-08-09T17:20:36 < Steffanx> messes with the dock too much 2016-08-09T17:20:48 < Laurenceb> can anyone give me a n00b intro to minicom? 2016-08-09T17:21:04 < ReadError> use screen? 2016-08-09T17:21:09 < Laurenceb> I'm trying to send some shit to a device but minicom is replacing all my characters with shit 2016-08-09T17:21:19 < Laurenceb> I need to change the baud rate 2016-08-09T17:21:22 < Rob235> I don't like all the shit in the top right, but if you just want one app open from windows on os x its pretty cool 2016-08-09T17:21:41 < Laurenceb> is there a way to quit screen? 2016-08-09T17:21:53 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-09T17:21:58 < Laurenceb> killing the process leaves the port open 2016-08-09T17:22:23 < ReadError> can you lsof -n|grep ? 2016-08-09T17:22:29 < ReadError> and see if theres something holding it 2016-08-09T17:22:33 < Laurenceb> hmm good plan 2016-08-09T17:24:15 < Laurenceb> nothing there 2016-08-09T17:25:54 < Laurenceb> tiem to grab an old windoze machine 2016-08-09T17:25:58 < ReadError> cant you echo something to something 2016-08-09T17:26:00 < ReadError> and reset 2016-08-09T17:26:10 < Laurenceb> I dunno lol 2016-08-09T17:26:24 < Laurenceb> type _something_ into _something_ 2016-08-09T17:26:34 < Ecco> Laurenceb: To change the baudrate, IIRC, ctrl-Z esc 2016-08-09T17:26:40 < Laurenceb> quicker to do this on stm32 2016-08-09T17:26:54 < Laurenceb> Ecco: in minicom? 2016-08-09T17:27:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T17:27:39 < Laurenceb> grrr 2016-08-09T17:27:43 < Laurenceb> ok I'll start again 2016-08-09T17:28:28 < Laurenceb> nope no action 2016-08-09T17:28:39 < Laurenceb> blank screen is blank 2016-08-09T17:29:01 < Laurenceb> time to use a discovery board :-/ 2016-08-09T17:29:05 < Ecco> or esc-Z 2016-08-09T17:29:08 < Ecco> yeah, minicom 2016-08-09T17:29:20 < Laurenceb> no way I'm using that aids 2016-08-09T17:29:21 < Ecco> It should pop a menu 2016-08-09T17:29:27 < Ecco> it's not that bad actually 2016-08-09T17:29:34 < Laurenceb> shit ok I'll try it once 2016-08-09T17:30:06 < Ecco> or from the CLI 2016-08-09T17:30:07 < Ecco> minicom -s 2016-08-09T17:30:38 < ReadError> this is why lunix desktop are retarded 2016-08-09T17:30:48 < ReadError> Laurenceb cant even open a serial port 2016-08-09T17:30:49 < Rob235> hmm 2016-08-09T17:30:56 < Laurenceb> ok i have minicom open 2016-08-09T17:31:01 < Laurenceb> but its dead 2016-08-09T17:31:10 < Rob235> so I installed windows 10 in a vm to try out the new coocox coide and I go to new project and it freezes 2016-08-09T17:31:11 < Laurenceb> probably cuz it thinks my device is VT102 2016-08-09T17:31:22 < Laurenceb> "Offline" wtf 2016-08-09T17:31:25 < inca> http://realterm.sourceforge.net/ 2016-08-09T17:31:36 < Laurenceb> I'll install 2016-08-09T17:31:40 < celeron55_> why not picocom or something 2016-08-09T17:32:12 < ReadError> Rob235 tried ChibiStudio? 2016-08-09T17:32:14 < celeron55_> minicom is kind of bloated with ancient modem crap or whatever 2016-08-09T17:32:21 < ReadError> less cox 2016-08-09T17:32:44 < Laurenceb> celeron55_@ screen works for me 2016-08-09T17:32:49 < Rob235> do you have to use chibiOS with it? 2016-08-09T17:33:00 < Laurenceb> but I need to be able to change the baud rate 2016-08-09T17:33:03 < Laurenceb> any ideas? 2016-08-09T17:33:12 < ReadError> Rob235 nope 2016-08-09T17:33:21 < ReadError> i use it for all my stm32 warez 2016-08-09T17:33:22 < Rob235> free for any size? 2016-08-09T17:33:27 < ReadError> yea ofc 2016-08-09T17:33:28 < Rob235> I guess I could google all this :) 2016-08-09T17:33:33 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T17:33:35 < Rob235> thanks i'll check it out 2016-08-09T17:33:39 < ReadError> its basically eclipse+compiler+openocd+gdb 2016-08-09T17:33:45 < ReadError> all in a nice package 2016-08-09T17:33:50 < ReadError> and some other stm32 tools 2016-08-09T17:34:22 < Rob235> so in a way its like coocox but hopefully better 2016-08-09T17:41:53 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T17:43:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T17:45:17 < Rob235> props will be here today 2016-08-09T17:45:40 < ReadError> pieces before monday 2016-08-09T17:45:43 < ReadError> trololol 2016-08-09T17:45:52 < ReadError> did you atleast get some smaller shit to test wid? 2016-08-09T17:46:01 < Rob235> before monday? 2016-08-09T17:46:12 < Rob235> don't you mean wednesday? 2016-08-09T17:46:26 < ReadError> oh right 2016-08-09T17:46:28 < ReadError> im strung out 2016-08-09T17:46:35 * ReadError dab 2016-08-09T17:46:40 < Rob235> if I'm understanding what you meant 2016-08-09T17:47:16 < Rob235> where would you mount a video tx on a hex 2016-08-09T17:47:41 < ReadError> generally furtherest away you can from anything else RF 2016-08-09T17:47:58 < Rob235> is it ok to point it straight down, mounted on the bottom? 2016-08-09T17:48:52 < Rob235> would that give best result 2016-08-09T17:49:26 < ReadError> up or down 2016-08-09T17:49:41 < ReadError> not sideways 2016-08-09T17:49:46 < Rob235> doesn't matter? the body of the drone wont block some of the signal? 2016-08-09T17:49:48 < Rob235> ohhh 2016-08-09T17:49:55 < Rob235> whys that 2016-08-09T17:50:04 < Rob235> I'm not sure how these antenna work 2016-08-09T17:50:12 < ReadError> it radiates like a donut sorta 2016-08-09T17:50:20 < ReadError> so you will have nulls above and below 2016-08-09T17:50:46 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-09T17:50:59 < Rob235> do you have an image of that? 2016-08-09T17:51:33 < ReadError> http://www.antenna-theory.com/m/antennas/cloverleaf.php 2016-08-09T17:52:14 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-09T17:53:19 < Rob235> I see, thanks 2016-08-09T18:01:16 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-09T18:02:38 < Ecco> ok I have the weirdest bug 2016-08-09T18:02:58 < Ecco> (gdb) p ccmr 2016-08-09T18:02:58 < Ecco> $1 = (uint32_t *) 0x40010018 2016-08-09T18:03:05 < Ecco> (gdb) x ccmr 2016-08-09T18:03:06 < Ecco> 0x40010018: 0x00006868 2016-08-09T18:03:21 < Ecco> (gdb) p/x d 2016-08-09T18:03:21 < Ecco> $3 = 0x606868 2016-08-09T18:03:24 < Ecco> (d is a local variable) 2016-08-09T18:03:30 < Ecco> 67 *ccmr = d; 2016-08-09T18:03:33 < Ecco> I run this 2016-08-09T18:03:49 < Ecco> and the value at 0x40010018 is unchanged 2016-08-09T18:11:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-09T18:18:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T18:19:06 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T18:20:59 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T18:24:17 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-09T18:24:18 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T18:37:03 < PaulFertser> Ecco: you can try setting it manually with "set *ccmr = 0xc0ffee" 2016-08-09T18:37:26 < PaulFertser> Ecco: probably optimisation postpones the actual assignemnt 2016-08-09T18:37:40 < PaulFertser> Or ccmr doesn't accept the new value 2016-08-09T18:39:51 < Rob235> what is the correct term for a rocker switch that takes two signal wires and depending on position it passes one of the signals through 2016-08-09T18:42:07 < Thorn> spdt? 2016-08-09T18:43:00 < Rob235> ahh thanks, did a search for that and came up with a sparkfun page describing the different types, and yea thats it 2016-08-09T18:44:44 < Ecco> (gdb) x ccmr 2016-08-09T18:44:45 < Ecco> 0x40010018: 0x00006868 2016-08-09T18:44:45 < Ecco> (gdb) set *ccmr=0x686868 2016-08-09T18:44:45 < Ecco> (gdb) x ccmr 2016-08-09T18:44:45 < Ecco> 0x40010018: 0x00006868 2016-08-09T18:45:41 < Ecco> So apparently ccmr doesn't accept the new value 2016-08-09T18:45:45 < Ecco> that seems very weird though 2016-08-09T18:46:16 < Thorn> what is this ccmr? timer capture/compare register? 2016-08-09T18:47:04 < Thorn> if so, it is 16 bits wide (according to a random ref man, dunno which family you're using) 2016-08-09T18:47:19 < Ecco> yes 2016-08-09T18:47:23 < Ecco> indeed 2016-08-09T18:47:24 < Ecco> *but* 2016-08-09T18:47:33 < Ecco> there's another register living right after 2016-08-09T18:47:43 < Ecco> so I'm expecting to write to that register 2016-08-09T18:48:19 < Thorn> what is the address of that register? 2016-08-09T18:48:21 < PaulFertser> Ecco: set *(uint16_t*)0x4001001A = 0x6 2016-08-09T18:48:34 < PaulFertser> p/x *(uint16_t*)0x4001001A 2016-08-09T18:48:58 < Ecco> $2 = 0x0 2016-08-09T18:49:25 < Ecco> So there are two registers 2016-08-09T18:49:38 < Ecco> CCMR1 is at 0x40010018 2016-08-09T18:49:47 < Ecco> CCMR2 is at 0x4001001C 2016-08-09T18:49:50 < Ecco> both are 16 bits 2016-08-09T18:50:03 < Ecco> oh shit 2016-08-09T18:50:06 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-09T18:50:22 < Ecco> to be contiguous CCMR2 should live at 0x4001001A 2016-08-09T18:50:24 < Ecco> crap 2016-08-09T18:50:28 < Thorn> 0x1c - 0x18 = 2016-08-09T18:50:29 < Ecco> ok I got it 2016-08-09T18:50:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.166] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T18:50:34 < Ecco> thanks guys! 2016-08-09T18:50:39 * Ecco stupid 2016-08-09T18:51:52 < Ecco> q 2016-08-09T18:54:20 < Ecco> yay it works 2016-08-09T18:54:21 < Ecco> thanks 2016-08-09T18:57:25 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T18:58:29 < owl-v-> how can I check the mcu's revision? and how can I search parts with recent revision on on-line stores? 2016-08-09T18:58:48 < jpa-> it reads on top of the chip 2016-08-09T18:59:01 < jpa-> and it is difficult to make sure you only buy recent revision chips 2016-08-09T18:59:08 < jpa-> because distributors want to sell the old parts first 2016-08-09T19:04:16 < inca> what is XACTERR in USB driver? 2016-08-09T19:04:35 < ReadError> high precision 2016-08-09T19:04:38 < Ecco> can there be significant changes between revisions ? 2016-08-09T19:04:54 < jpa-> Ecco: yes 2016-08-09T19:05:07 < jpa-> stm32 has huge erratas 2016-08-09T19:05:07 < Ecco> such as? 2016-08-09T19:05:32 < jpa-> such as DMA controllers corrupting data 2016-08-09T19:05:36 < jpa-> or the PDR_ON pin fiasco 2016-08-09T19:05:56 < Thorn> or i2c 2016-08-09T19:06:07 < jpa-> I2C bugs would also be on the list, except they don't get fixed even in newer revisions 2016-08-09T19:06:38 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T19:06:52 < Tectu> lol, uGFX just entered the world of batches 2016-08-09T19:06:56 < Tectu> https://hackaday.com/2016/08/09/tilda-mk%CF%80-the-emf-camp-2016-badge/ 2016-08-09T19:07:22 < Laurenceb> arg wut 2016-08-09T19:07:27 < Laurenceb> SP1ML is write protected 2016-08-09T19:08:17 < Tectu> wut, they wrote a micropython wrapper around the entire uGFX library 2016-08-09T19:08:24 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-09T19:08:42 < Tectu> and I was wondering why ugfx website stats xploded 2016-08-09T19:09:06 * ReadError ctrl+c ping -f 2016-08-09T19:12:05 < Laurenceb> is my.st.com down? 2016-08-09T19:12:44 < inca> Laurenceb: maximum user limit of 12 people has been exceeded. please wait. 2016-08-09T19:12:49 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-09T19:12:59 < inca> ms sharepoint, ftw! 2016-08-09T19:13:16 * Laurenceb is trying to work out wtf they did with SP1ML modules 2016-08-09T19:13:22 < Laurenceb> flash seems to be locked 2016-08-09T19:13:57 < Tectu> hey inca o/ 2016-08-09T19:14:10 < inca> hey Tectu \o 2016-08-09T19:14:25 < Tectu> Laurenceb, I have no idea what SP1ML is, but I start to feel like I should make a large circle around it should I encounter it in the future 2016-08-09T19:15:01 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-08-09T19:15:20 < Laurenceb> they couldnt fuck it up more if they tried 2016-08-09T19:16:48 < englishman> Tectu: why's that, because Laurenceb is struggling to radio? 2016-08-09T19:17:59 < Tectu> englishman, yes. If laurenceb can't get it working nobody can 2016-08-09T19:18:06 < Tectu> Laurenceb == master of everything 2016-08-09T19:18:22 < Tectu> he's like chuck norris and the oracle from matrix in one person. He fixes bugs before they occur 2016-08-09T19:20:21 < Laurenceb> maybe tiem to use proper ST tools on this baby 2016-08-09T19:21:22 < englishman> never attribute to defective parts what can be sufficiently attributed to shitty opensores tools 2016-08-09T19:22:36 < ReadError> I axed Laurenceb why he never picks shit that works 2016-08-09T19:22:38 < ReadError> hasnt responded 2016-08-09T19:22:52 < Tectu> using open sorez 3rd party tools 2016-08-09T19:22:54 < Tectu> shit not working 2016-08-09T19:22:59 < Tectu> can't be coincidence. 2016-08-09T19:23:42 < ReadError> but hes on a lunix desktop 2016-08-09T19:23:53 < ReadError> by that alone everything should work perfect 2016-08-09T19:24:58 < PaulFertser> englishman: if you have a bugreport regarding OpenOCD please speak up. 2016-08-09T19:25:58 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: to remove write protection on e.g. f1 part, "stm32f1x mass_erase 0; stm32f1x unlock 0" 2016-08-09T19:27:00 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-08-09T19:27:22 < Laurenceb> I'm trying with the bootloader as it means no board modifications 2016-08-09T19:27:35 < Laurenceb> but write unprotect fails 2016-08-09T19:28:00 < PaulFertser> With bootloader, you can do stm32flash -k 2016-08-09T19:28:09 < Tectu> hey paul :) 2016-08-09T19:28:20 < PaulFertser> Hey :) 2016-08-09T19:28:44 < Laurenceb> ok I'll try it 2016-08-09T19:28:45 < Tectu> did you steal the scope yet? 2016-08-09T19:28:50 < Laurenceb> using stm32loader.py atm 2016-08-09T19:29:09 < Tectu> better use OpenOCD 2016-08-09T19:29:16 < Tectu> or STLink if shit hits the fan 2016-08-09T19:29:21 < Tectu> if ST-Link Utitlity that is 2016-08-09T19:29:26 < Tectu> Utility* -.- 2016-08-09T19:29:41 < PaulFertser> I had success using stm32flash utility to talk to the bootloader. 2016-08-09T19:31:41 < Laurenceb> Interface serial_posix: 57600 8E1 2016-08-09T19:31:43 < Laurenceb> say what 2016-08-09T19:31:53 < Laurenceb> thought it was 115200 2016-08-09T19:31:59 < Laurenceb> well it says it worked 2016-08-09T19:32:33 < Tectu> is texane still a thing? 2016-08-09T19:32:45 < Laurenceb> I use it, but im lazy 2016-08-09T19:33:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.166] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-09T19:35:28 < Laurenceb> yay it worked, thanks 2016-08-09T19:36:09 < Laurenceb> dunno why stm32loader.py failed, it says it only received a single reply from the write unprotect, and datasheet says it should receive two replies 2016-08-09T19:36:19 < Laurenceb> maybe a timing/buffer issue with pyserial 2016-08-09T19:38:29 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T19:40:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-09T19:41:47 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-09T19:44:12 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T19:44:24 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T19:47:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b589-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T19:48:43 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T19:53:27 < Laurenceb> reactors 2016-08-09T19:54:15 < Laurenceb> I mean react-os 2016-08-09T19:54:28 < Laurenceb> Putin approves 2016-08-09T19:54:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T19:56:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-09T19:57:26 < Laurenceb> lul new firmware is just as fail 2016-08-09T20:06:40 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T20:09:45 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T20:12:15 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T20:14:34 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-09T20:15:09 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-09T20:16:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-09T20:20:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T20:21:42 < ReadError> Bro don't come to my house without letting me know in advance. What if I'm fucking your girl? Now our friendship ruined because of you 2016-08-09T20:26:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-daebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T20:28:23 < aandrew> lol 2016-08-09T20:33:23 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T20:37:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@182.148.36.170] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-09T20:41:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T20:49:43 < Laurenceb> ebolaids 2016-08-09T21:01:27 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has quit [Quit: ""] 2016-08-09T21:01:36 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:02:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:02:46 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-09T21:04:16 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:06:30 < Thorn> "If I'm asked how Kalman filter works I won't be able to answer. However I know when you actually need it, what alternatives exist and when it can fail. 2016-08-09T21:06:33 < Thorn> Others can derive the math behind it on the spot but they will try to use it in situations where it doesn't work or has insufficient accuracy, and they don't know any alternatives." 2016-08-09T21:07:07 < Thorn> 1. when does kalman filter fail. 2. when is the accuracy insufficient. 3. what are the alternatives 2016-08-09T21:08:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T21:09:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Say What?] 2016-08-09T21:12:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:15:07 < Laurenceb> https://vine.co/v/hmY15wdVEu3 2016-08-09T21:15:44 < ReadError> crusoe is the man 2016-08-09T21:16:21 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/tpZ8WZT.jpg 2016-08-09T21:16:32 < Rob235> I just bought 27 rocker spdt rocker switches, most in packs of 2,5, or 10 but hoping one is the exact kind I want 2016-08-09T21:16:59 < ReadError> did you break one off? 2016-08-09T21:17:54 < Rob235> to use as a switch between fpv video feed from drone and little camera mounted on goggles 2016-08-09T21:18:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-09T21:18:21 < ReadError> ahhh 2016-08-09T21:18:26 < ReadError> should use TX 2016-08-09T21:18:45 < ReadError> but would need a cable or spare rx 2016-08-09T21:18:58 < ReadError> or wireless hacx 2016-08-09T21:19:32 < Rob235> yea, not really worth it, these goggles are cheap and massive 2016-08-09T21:20:07 < ReadError> if you gotta reach up to flip a switch you might as well just enable 9000k HD 2016-08-09T21:20:16 < ReadError> and lift the goggles up 2016-08-09T21:20:37 < Rob235> this will work fine and I found a meh 2016-08-09T21:20:47 < Rob235> ?? 2016-08-09T21:20:56 < Rob235> not sure what I was typing there 2016-08-09T21:21:06 * ReadError dab 2016-08-09T21:21:46 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-09T21:23:13 < Rob235> props came btw 2016-08-09T21:23:43 < Rob235> they are all horribly imbalanced though, gotta fix em 2016-08-09T21:23:55 < Rob235> at least my first pack had half balanced 2016-08-09T21:24:09 < ReadError> u know about hub balance ? 2016-08-09T21:24:14 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-09T21:24:14 < ReadError> vs blade 2016-08-09T21:24:17 < ReadError> ah good 2016-08-09T21:24:17 < Rob235> doing both 2016-08-09T21:24:27 < ReadError> most just do blade 2016-08-09T21:24:41 < ReadError> but might as well do both 2016-08-09T21:24:55 < Rob235> found out about it when researching fpv stuff and said the majority of people who have that wavy video effect is from not balancing hubs 2016-08-09T21:33:07 < Laurenceb> benis 2016-08-09T21:33:15 < ReadError> 'iggered 2016-08-09T21:38:32 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-09T21:39:29 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:40:29 < jadew> dongs, is it a public holiday there? 2016-08-09T21:41:40 < Rob235> I was actually considering looking up if this would work: attach video feed from goggle camera to second antenna spot of the diversity receiver. use a regular on/off switch so that when off, no feed and the better (not really sure how rf signal works so not sure what better is in reference to) signal would be from the fpv drone camera and that would show. Then if I flicked the switch on the goggle cam would have to be a stronger 2016-08-09T21:41:40 < Rob235> signal right and it would switch to that? Again I have no idea how RF signal works so this might be a retarded idea.... 2016-08-09T21:42:34 < Steffanx> he wont reply he went to efnet, jadew 2016-08-09T21:42:52 < jadew> lol 2016-08-09T21:45:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.88] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:48:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T21:50:37 < Thorn> 43 mentions of dongs since his last message 2016-08-09T21:50:52 < Thorn> (now 44) 2016-08-09T21:50:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:51:11 < englishman> some of that was lil dongs 2016-08-09T21:57:49 < Laurenceb> dongs 2016-08-09T21:58:52 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T21:58:56 < Steffanx> we are worried Thorn. makes us human 2016-08-09T22:02:56 < englishman> Laurenceb: looks like the colonies can teach poor old UK a thing or two about rugby 2016-08-09T22:03:11 < Thorn> I've been absent for over a year and nobody said anything 2016-08-09T22:03:48 < Steffanx> sure we have Thorn. 2016-08-09T22:04:01 < Steffanx> (were you gone? :P) 2016-08-09T22:04:04 < Steffanx> when? 2016-08-09T22:06:01 < Thorn> see? 2016-08-09T22:06:09 < Thorn> didn't even notice 2016-08-09T22:06:59 < Steffanx> maybe i did, but i dont remember :P 2016-08-09T22:07:11 < Steffanx> its not that you are as active/noisy as mr d. 2016-08-09T22:13:37 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-09T22:26:28 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T22:31:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T22:31:48 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-09T22:36:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-09T22:47:27 < aandrew> hm 2016-08-09T22:47:39 < aandrew> is there some magic involved in tearing FreeRTOS out of CubeMX? 2016-08-09T22:47:53 < aandrew> the HAL references CMSIS shit and CMSIS immediately calls shit in FreeRTOS 2016-08-09T22:56:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T22:58:03 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-09T22:58:44 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T23:06:07 -!- albru123 [~albru123@193.165.237.236] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T23:10:32 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-09T23:28:11 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T23:53:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.173] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-09T23:58:59 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-09T23:59:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.42.56] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Wed Aug 10 2016 2016-08-10T00:01:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.57.173] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-10T00:06:08 -!- basepusher [~basepushe@unaffiliated/basepusher] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T00:09:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@110.184.60.178] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T00:09:29 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-10T00:15:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T00:25:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T00:37:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-daebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-10T00:49:06 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T00:54:59 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-98-247-194-140.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-10T00:59:15 < Laurenceb__> decisions decisions 2016-08-10T00:59:26 < Laurenceb__> to fix bluetooth or to write custom SP1ML firmware 2016-08-10T00:59:29 < Laurenceb__> or both... 2016-08-10T01:07:29 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T01:08:30 < Rob235> so I'm trying to balance these prop hubs... I had to add 20 cm^2 of electrical tape to the top of a prop to balance the hub. Is that normal? I know these are cheap props but that seems like a lot. is the change in shape from that going to affect a lot? 2016-08-10T01:12:04 < englishman> what prop did you get dude 2016-08-10T01:12:17 < Rob235> gemfans 2016-08-10T01:12:33 < englishman> 20 1cm^2 layers of electrical tape will just fall off probably 2016-08-10T01:13:12 < Rob235> its more like 10 2x1cm rectangles but I was going to top it off with superglue because it's still a tiny bit light 2016-08-10T01:13:39 < englishman> got a link to these horrible props? 2016-08-10T01:13:57 < englishman> last time i tried to balance props, my balancer was unbalanced 2016-08-10T01:14:01 < englishman> then i didnt balance props anymore 2016-08-10T01:15:15 < Rob235> ugh 2016-08-10T01:16:26 < Rob235> I just read comments on these props and they are terrible... I don't know if you've used hobbyking but they have comments split for the same item depending on which warehouse they come from. they are listed as turnigy, come as gemfan and apparently impossible to balance... 2016-08-10T01:16:26 < Rob235> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__34091__Turnigy_Slowfly_Propeller_12x4_5_Black_CCW_4pcs_.html 2016-08-10T01:17:00 < Rob235> I need to order new props.... 2016-08-10T01:17:16 < Rob235> can someone just tell me what to buy haha 2016-08-10T01:18:37 < englishman> yeah, turnigy props 2016-08-10T01:18:48 < englishman> 12" slowfly 2016-08-10T01:18:51 < englishman> bad news 2016-08-10T01:19:10 < Rob235> they say turnigy, the label says gemfan 2016-08-10T01:19:39 < englishman> have you flown it yet 2016-08-10T01:21:52 -!- Mustafa_ [~quassel@p5DE86CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T01:21:52 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE85E7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-10T01:26:27 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T01:26:44 < Sync> Laurenceb__: obv do both 2016-08-10T01:26:55 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-10T01:27:08 < Laurenceb__> I found one forum post describing my bluetooth issues 2016-08-10T01:27:18 < Laurenceb__> the fix is to use QBluetooth :( 2016-08-10T01:27:44 * Laurenceb__ doesnt know difference between a Socket and a Server 2016-08-10T01:28:05 < Laurenceb__> does this sound like what I need to connect to a bluetooth module? 2016-08-10T01:28:07 < Laurenceb__> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qbluetoothsocket.html 2016-08-10T01:29:40 < Laurenceb__> or do I need a "server" ? 2016-08-10T01:31:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-10T01:44:05 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T01:45:38 < Rob235> what 12" props should I get? 2016-08-10T01:51:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T01:56:52 -!- XTL_ is now known as XTL 2016-08-10T02:02:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-10T02:02:49 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-10T02:07:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T02:07:59 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T02:10:02 < Laurenceb__> lul @ trump 2016-08-10T02:12:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-10T02:14:53 < upgrdman> whatd trump do now 2016-08-10T02:23:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-10T02:23:28 < Laurenceb__> suggested shooting Hilldog 2016-08-10T02:24:12 < Laurenceb__> wonder how long before he releases it was all a troll 2016-08-10T02:25:06 < Laurenceb__> *reveals 2016-08-10T02:55:08 < Laurenceb__> How does a Apple fanboy know when it's 12 o clock? He looks at his wrist and sees his Apple watch has run out of battery. 2016-08-10T02:58:02 < Laurenceb__> music for crt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4 2016-08-10T02:58:11 < Laurenceb__> cuz the battery life is so short 2016-08-10T03:01:28 < Laurenceb__> an apple fanboy 2016-08-10T03:12:11 < Laurenceb__> chris chans car is pretty impressive 2016-08-10T03:12:28 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-10T03:13:20 < Laurenceb__> https://forum.encyclopediadramatica.se/threads/bastard-feeder-20-signs-you-should-kill-yourself-this-year.24176/ 2016-08-10T03:14:38 < Laurenceb__> bastard feeder seems to be a troll version of buzzfeed 2016-08-10T03:15:56 < Laurenceb__> I wish there was a "Decent effort but it's still shite mate" button 2016-08-10T03:16:20 < Laurenceb__> it was that hacker 4chan 2016-08-10T03:17:21 < Laurenceb__> P A J E E T M Y S O N 2016-08-10T03:21:11 < Laurenceb__> D E S I G N A T E D 2016-08-10T03:21:48 < Laurenceb__> http://funnyjunk.com/Designated/funny-pictures/5729610#e4b314_5729166 2016-08-10T03:39:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T03:40:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-10T04:06:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T04:11:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Something really pumpin' I hope? 2016-08-10T10:08:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.156] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T10:10:17 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tsqzjaxx29pnb.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-10T10:11:09 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has quit [Quit: ""] 2016-08-10T10:12:21 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T10:12:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-10T10:18:43 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-10T10:22:33 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vfvy1besiz4xz.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T10:25:22 < qyx> I did a test board for that AX5243 transceiver last evening 2016-08-10T10:25:28 < qyx> Laurenceb: ^ 2016-08-10T10:25:34 < qyx> hopefully it will wrok 2016-08-10T10:30:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-10T10:33:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.158.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-10T10:35:17 < PaulFertser> crt: I've heard AU fellas are seriously fined if they do not fill census forms. 2016-08-10T10:42:59 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-10T10:47:16 -!- Cyric_ [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T10:47:16 -!- Cyric_ [~quassel@cm-84.215.74.80.getinternet.no] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-10T10:47:16 -!- Cyric_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T10:47:33 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-10T10:50:58 -!- crtt [~ARM_4lyf@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T10:57:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.220] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T11:06:09 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T11:06:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-10T11:06:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-10T11:37:37 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-10T11:38:15 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-10T11:40:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T11:45:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T11:54:58 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YledrMyoqgs Electromagnet in Liquid Nitrogen 2016-08-10T12:00:34 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-10T12:00:58 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T12:18:30 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T12:40:17 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-10T12:43:08 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T13:16:00 -!- crtt [~ARM_4lyf@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T13:18:41 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrpmfalcgzhmfckg] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T13:20:43 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-10T13:20:49 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T13:20:55 < Tectu> o/ 2016-08-10T13:25:51 < Steffanx> He's pointing. 2016-08-10T13:25:59 < Steffanx> up 2016-08-10T13:26:05 < Steffanx> lo mr crt 2016-08-10T13:27:38 < Tectu> synthesizing FPGA crap, sup there crt? 2016-08-10T13:28:18 < Steffanx> whats an airhead? 2016-08-10T13:29:41 < Steffanx> oh, is that the aussie version of a nitwit? 2016-08-10T13:29:49 < qyx> seems like the urban dictionary definition is correct then 2016-08-10T13:29:51 < Tectu> is taht the aussie version of a niggerian prince? 2016-08-10T13:30:08 < Steffanx> -g 2016-08-10T13:30:31 < Tectu> oh, that wasn't on purpose Steffanx 2016-08-10T13:30:49 < Tectu> crt, only three times? Clearly you are not married then. 2016-08-10T13:33:14 < Tectu> tell them to start selling drugs 2016-08-10T13:33:37 < Steffanx> Stop doing kakimirs => unknown/not so commonly known abbreviations 2016-08-10T13:34:26 < Tectu> since when is PAT an unknown/not so commonly known abbreviation? 2016-08-10T13:34:38 < zyp> what's a PAT? 2016-08-10T13:35:05 < Tectu> ort Address Translation 2016-08-10T13:35:07 < Tectu> Port* 2016-08-10T13:35:10 < zyp> so is the tester portable or does it test portable appliances? 2016-08-10T13:35:10 < Tectu> ort not then 2016-08-10T13:35:13 < Tectu> screw you crt 2016-08-10T13:36:02 < zyp> ah, I know them as installation testers 2016-08-10T13:36:18 < Tectu> it would be clearer if one prepends 'electrical' to that 2016-08-10T13:36:48 < zyp> I mean, installation testers are for testing installations, not appliances 2016-08-10T13:37:03 < zyp> but it's the same sort of tests mostly 2016-08-10T13:37:28 < zyp> but it's basically just a glorified megger, right? 2016-08-10T13:38:16 < Steffanx> And the one you upset was probably your accountant crt? 2016-08-10T13:39:16 < Steffanx> some people fail with a few million too. 2016-08-10T13:39:49 < Steffanx> Im still confused, it's your business right? 2016-08-10T13:40:08 < Steffanx> Ah. That kinda explains everything. 2016-08-10T13:41:17 < Tectu> what kind of business is that if I may ask? 2016-08-10T13:41:58 < Tectu> ah that 2016-08-10T13:42:09 < Tectu> having an installation tester sounds like a sane thing to do then 2016-08-10T13:42:48 < Steffanx> An extra smoke generator can't be that bad in the theatre business :P 2016-08-10T13:43:25 < Tectu> who needs pretty ladies 2016-08-10T13:44:44 < Steffanx> oof. 2016-08-10T13:45:03 < Tectu> oh, that actually sounds bad 2016-08-10T13:46:06 < Tectu> how does one get burned with that? 2016-08-10T13:46:10 < Tectu> don't they do ultrasonic stuff? 2016-08-10T13:46:18 < Tectu> vaporization w/o heat and magic 2016-08-10T13:54:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-10T13:57:09 < PeterM> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/282128831245 anyone want? 2016-08-10T13:57:46 < Tectu> "Can include approx 50x on cut tape" lolwhat? 2016-08-10T13:57:53 < Tectu> shouldn't it state the contained quantity on the label? 2016-08-10T13:58:24 < PeterM> you dont se the big "Qty:50" 2016-08-10T13:58:24 < Tectu> QTY: 2950 2016-08-10T13:58:30 < PeterM> 2950 2016-08-10T13:59:31 < PeterM> yeah i ordered 12k, 3x3k reels, they sent me 2x 3k reels, 1x 2950 reel and 50x on cut tape 2016-08-10T14:01:38 < Steffanx> May not post to Netherlands - Read item description or contact seller for postage options. Too lazy 2016-08-10T14:01:51 < PeterM> nobody wants to contact you, PeterM 2016-08-10T14:05:27 < PeterM> Tectu, you just did O.o 2016-08-10T14:05:37 < Tectu> no 2016-08-10T14:05:40 < Tectu> that's not me 2016-08-10T14:05:47 < Steffanx> Hello. 2016-08-10T14:05:50 < PeterM> you're not talking to me now? 2016-08-10T14:05:57 < PeterM> irc isnt contact? 2016-08-10T14:06:04 < Tectu> no 2016-08-10T14:06:05 < Tectu> no 2016-08-10T14:06:06 < Tectu> It's me 2016-08-10T14:06:09 < Tectu> fu Steffanx 2016-08-10T14:06:58 < PeterM> no, im selling 2016-08-10T14:08:31 < PeterM> to-277? 2016-08-10T14:09:15 < PeterM> no wait 2016-08-10T14:09:21 < PeterM> thats the diode package 2016-08-10T14:09:27 < PeterM> ya 2016-08-10T14:09:37 < PeterM> 227=! 277 2016-08-10T14:11:05 < PeterM> i guess it'd be ok for a class d for a woofer or sthn 2016-08-10T14:11:50 < PeterM> for class d just use SMD 2016-08-10T14:12:16 < PeterM> if your fets in class d are gettign too hot you're doing it wrang 2016-08-10T14:15:55 < Tectu> PeterM, studies show that you have a 46% higher chance of selling your items when you have clean finger nails on product photographs. 2016-08-10T14:16:28 < Steffanx> Also didnt want to mention it D: 2016-08-10T14:16:53 < Tectu> yeah and I held it back for quite some time 2016-08-10T14:16:54 < PeterM> yeah, im not in a hurry to sell 2016-08-10T14:17:17 < PeterM> ive had them sitting aroudn for ages 2016-08-10T14:17:31 < Tectu> sell them as (artificially) aged then 2016-08-10T14:18:18 < Tectu> high quality audio gold plated silver core contacts 2016-08-10T14:18:22 < PeterM> heh 2016-08-10T14:19:01 < Tectu> better also advertise the packaging as audiophile friendly ESD bag with special coating that absorbs sound rather than reflecting it 2016-08-10T14:19:47 < Tectu> also but arduino somewhere in the auction title 2016-08-10T14:19:52 < Tectu> instant sell guaranteed 2016-08-10T14:20:18 < Tectu> we should stop now, crt 2016-08-10T14:20:20 < Tectu> LOL! 2016-08-10T14:25:24 < PeterM> also crt, they were used as a hbridge on a transformer 2016-08-10T14:27:01 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-10T14:30:56 < PeterM> nah, PSFB converter 2016-08-10T14:32:07 < PeterM> 24v 50a -> 12v 100a 2016-08-10T14:52:32 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-10T15:07:02 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T15:10:51 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-10T15:10:51 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T15:17:51 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-10T15:19:08 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T15:19:55 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrpmfalcgzhmfckg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-10T15:32:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T15:33:24 < PeterM> there you go Steffanx fixt just for you 2016-08-10T15:36:53 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vfvy1besiz4xz.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-10T15:41:19 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28voxhetemygrgp.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T16:08:46 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/ZIMGY2T.png 2016-08-10T16:10:26 < Sync> pls 2016-08-10T16:14:23 < Steffanx> nnah i have no need for it anyway, PeterM 2016-08-10T16:15:42 < Steffanx> Dear Laurenceb__, do i need to continue the negative reinforcement or ... ? 2016-08-10T16:16:39 < Steffanx> Also what did you fix PeterM? Still the same "may not ship" message. 2016-08-10T16:17:25 < Steffanx> What is that supposed to mean crt? 2016-08-10T16:17:48 < Steffanx> ooh. 2016-08-10T16:18:36 < Steffanx> I only notice things like that when it's there, not when it's not. 2016-08-10T16:20:51 < Steffanx> no vacuum tubes are the shit. 2016-08-10T16:22:21 < Steffanx> lol no, im not into that at all. My brother is. 2016-08-10T16:22:38 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-10T16:23:02 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T16:24:38 < Steffanx> no, im not in the rice paper business etc. 2016-08-10T16:25:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.188] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T16:25:17 < Steffanx> You meet people like that often? 2016-08-10T16:25:34 < Sync> time to bake some eproms 2016-08-10T16:27:39 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T16:28:00 < Steffanx> Are you still in japan talsit? 2016-08-10T16:29:52 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-10T16:33:49 < Steffanx> damn. 2016-08-10T16:35:48 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-10T16:35:56 < Sync> > russian PIO caps 2016-08-10T16:36:01 < Sync> dem pcbs 2016-08-10T16:37:01 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T16:37:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-10T16:38:29 -!- bartekww [~bartekww@2a03:b0c0:3:d0::3e:8001] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T16:38:32 < bartekww> hey 2016-08-10T16:38:46 < bartekww> i can't get uart working 2016-08-10T16:38:57 < talsit> Steffanx: yep 2016-08-10T16:39:28 < Steffanx> cant you hunt down mr dongs for us? :) 2016-08-10T16:40:04 < talsit> i had his actual address a while back 2016-08-10T16:40:25 < talsit> nah, sold him some conformal 2016-08-10T16:40:59 < bartekww> guys, why this isn't working 2016-08-10T16:41:00 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/X8w3rpLt 2016-08-10T16:41:07 < bartekww> no uart output at all 2016-08-10T16:45:49 < talsit> Steffanx: is dongs missing? 2016-08-10T16:46:25 < Steffanx> nah, only for freenode. 2016-08-10T16:46:33 < Steffanx> and email 2016-08-10T16:50:25 < c4017> bartekww, i dont see gpio AF config 2016-08-10T16:53:49 < c4017> maybe add GPIO_PinAFConfig(GPIOB, GPIO_Pin_6, GPIO_AF_USART1); 2016-08-10T16:54:07 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.214.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T16:57:19 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jpqibgfenawgocpd] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T17:00:11 < bartekww> c4017: also to pin7? 2016-08-10T17:01:05 < c4017> yes, for RX to work 2016-08-10T17:01:36 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T17:01:37 < bartekww> src/usart.c:173:5: warning: implicit declaration of function 'GPIO_PinAFConfig' [-Wimplicit-function-declaration] 2016-08-10T17:01:53 < bartekww> src/usart.c:173:41: error: 'GPIO_AF_USART1' undeclared (first use in this function) 2016-08-10T17:03:17 < bartekww> what i have done wrong? 2016-08-10T17:03:52 < c4017> look in stm32f10x_gpio.h, GPIO_AF_USART1 might be called something else on f10x 2016-08-10T17:04:12 < bartekww> but i have got implicit declaration of function 2016-08-10T17:05:06 < c4017> Is GPIO_PinAFConfig declared in stm32f10x_gpio.h? 2016-08-10T17:05:30 < c4017> I've not worked with f10x so it might be declared somewhere else 2016-08-10T17:06:51 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T17:07:40 < bartekww> there is no such function 2016-08-10T17:08:25 < bartekww> this is my first time with stm32 2016-08-10T17:08:30 < bartekww> i have to burn hex file? 2016-08-10T17:08:38 < bartekww> i'm using st-flash on linux 2016-08-10T17:08:56 < c4017> never used it 2016-08-10T17:09:33 < c4017> try openocd, theres lots of support for it 2016-08-10T17:10:49 < bartekww> i don't have time 2016-08-10T17:10:53 < bartekww> st flash worked 2016-08-10T17:10:57 < bartekww> on f407 2016-08-10T17:12:30 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T17:16:44 < c4017> Does this work? GPIO_PinRemapConfig(GPIO_Remap_USART1, ENABLE); 2016-08-10T17:19:01 < bartekww> brb 2016-08-10T17:19:50 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.60] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T17:35:22 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-10T17:36:16 -!- mitrax_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-10T17:50:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-10T18:07:05 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T18:07:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T18:10:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-10T18:15:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T18:30:13 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-10T18:32:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-10T19:14:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-10T19:15:27 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:18:48 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-10T19:20:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.181.137] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-10T19:23:03 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:23:54 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-10T19:27:49 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-10T19:28:06 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:29:34 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:30:18 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:31:27 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-10T19:35:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:35:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:37:26 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:39:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-0eb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:41:06 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-10T19:41:14 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:41:30 < jadew> so.. I found a show where every scene looks like porn is about to begin, but it never does 2016-08-10T19:41:53 < jadew> "pretty little liars" 2016-08-10T19:43:23 < aandrew> my daughter was into that show. stupid fucking program. 2016-08-10T19:43:35 < Tectu> any why would you mention that in an IRC channel that is solely related to the STM32 microcontroller platform, jadew ? 2016-08-10T19:43:59 < Tectu> "every scene looks like porn is about to begin" "my daughter was in that show" ... 2016-08-10T19:44:17 < jadew> it's probably for teenagers 2016-08-10T19:44:24 < jadew> look at this: http://imgur.com/a/rutrV 2016-08-10T19:44:25 < bartekww> c4017: pinremapconfig does not work 2016-08-10T19:45:12 < bartekww> why? 2016-08-10T19:45:33 < c4017> Does not compile? Still no output? 2016-08-10T19:45:42 < bartekww> still no output 2016-08-10T19:47:02 < c4017> can't help you there, Like i said i've never used F10x. Looks like theres plenty of code examples on google though... 2016-08-10T19:48:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:50:02 < Tectu> F103, I remember the pain 2016-08-10T19:52:59 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:53:21 < c4017> bartekww, in usart_send_char, you should wait for the flag to become set, then call SendData 2016-08-10T19:53:43 < c4017> while (USART_GetFlagStatus(USART1, USART_FLAG_TXE) == RESET); USART_SendData(USART1, c); 2016-08-10T19:54:21 < bartekww> so what i should change 2016-08-10T19:54:51 < c4017> put USART_SendData outside of the loop 2016-08-10T19:56:20 < bartekww> still nothing 2016-08-10T19:56:58 < c4017> post the new code 2016-08-10T19:57:09 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-10T19:57:27 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:57:43 < bartekww> same but changed send char function 2016-08-10T19:58:12 < c4017> you didnt add GPIO_PinRemapConfig? 2016-08-10T19:58:25 < bartekww> deleted it 2016-08-10T19:58:31 < bartekww> when it didn't worked 2016-08-10T19:58:39 < c4017> it needs to be there... 2016-08-10T19:58:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T19:58:57 < bartekww> where 2016-08-10T19:59:00 < bartekww> after what 2016-08-10T19:59:30 < c4017> after your GPIO_init's 2016-08-10T20:09:52 < bartekww> i placed it before nvic enable irq 2016-08-10T20:09:55 < bartekww> and nothing 2016-08-10T20:17:41 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T20:18:38 < bartekww> c4017: ? 2016-08-10T20:20:15 < c4017> dunno man 2016-08-10T20:20:35 < bartekww> :/ 2016-08-10T20:32:03 < Steffanx> How you test if it works bartekww? Scope? Logic analyzer? 2016-08-10T20:33:04 < bartekww> ft232rl 2016-08-10T20:33:11 < bartekww> i have got logic 8 2016-08-10T20:33:14 < bartekww> use it? 2016-08-10T20:33:32 < Steffanx> i would. 2016-08-10T20:33:46 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-10T20:34:05 < Steffanx> Also why not remove all the useless code and start with something basic? Just the initialization and just a few characters output? 2016-08-10T20:35:09 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T20:35:19 < bartekww> Steffanx: i'm using vim 2016-08-10T20:35:24 < bartekww> i have my own makefile 2016-08-10T20:35:25 < bartekww> so 2016-08-10T20:35:28 < bartekww> you know 2016-08-10T20:35:31 < bartekww> too much work 2016-08-10T20:37:31 < Steffanx> -_- 2016-08-10T20:37:54 < Steffanx> if it means too much work, are you sure using vim is the right choice? 2016-08-10T20:38:41 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-10T20:38:45 < Steffanx> ok 2016-08-10T20:38:50 < bartekww> but i have to copy whole project etc 2016-08-10T20:39:01 < basepusher> hi all 2016-08-10T20:39:13 < basepusher> i'm messing around with a px4 fmu board, stm32f427 2016-08-10T20:39:13 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-10T20:39:37 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T20:39:51 < basepusher> there is a mini switch on the board that is used for reset, i'm wondering if there is a general way these switches are used 2016-08-10T20:40:53 < basepusher> i'm using black magic probe to debug the board, and after a bad flash sometimes i can't detect the board anymore using swdp_scan. but by like randomly pressing the switch it sometimes works 2016-08-10T20:41:06 < bartekww> notnot sending anything 2016-08-10T20:41:17 < bartekww> s/notnot/not/ 2016-08-10T20:41:20 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-10T20:45:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T20:51:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-10T20:54:41 < bartekww> flashed example from github 2016-08-10T20:54:43 < bartekww> and nothing 2016-08-10T20:54:46 < bartekww> not working 2016-08-10T20:56:28 < bartekww> this is a new board 2016-08-10T20:56:30 < bartekww> not used 2016-08-10T20:58:17 < bartekww> i have got jumpers on the board 2016-08-10T20:58:21 < bartekww> it was on 0/0 2016-08-10T20:58:29 < bartekww> how i should set it? 2016-08-10T20:59:34 < Steffanx> basepusher, i'm not sure if the BMP resets the target itself on connect. It might not being doing that, but it's a long time since i've used my BMP 2016-08-10T20:59:40 < Steffanx> perhaps zyp knows. 2016-08-10T21:00:24 -!- celeron55_ [~perttu@dsl-64-1-157.netplaza.fi] has quit [] 2016-08-10T21:00:26 < Steffanx> bartekww, you're very unclear. How can we know what board you are using ;) 2016-08-10T21:00:30 < basepusher> oh so when i do a bad flash, black magic probe can't detect using swdp_scan unless i press down button. when i do it does detect it again 2016-08-10T21:00:48 < basepusher> however it is only like 5% of time it can attach again so i can reload / recover 2016-08-10T21:01:19 < bartekww> Steffanx: generic aliexpress stm32f103c8t6 board 2016-08-10T21:01:28 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: bmp can reset target on connect if special option is used 2016-08-10T21:01:41 < bartekww> http://artofcircuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/STM32F103C8T6-Development-Board-1.jpg 2016-08-10T21:01:46 < Laurenceb__> any bluetooth gurus here? 2016-08-10T21:01:55 < Steffanx> i googled for it, but i couldnt find that "special" option PaulFertser 2016-08-10T21:01:55 < Laurenceb__> is rfcomm always on a specific port? 2016-08-10T21:01:56 < PaulFertser> basepusher: have you looked at the list of bmp commands in its "help"? 2016-08-10T21:02:22 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: connect_srst 2016-08-10T21:02:35 < basepusher> yes 2016-08-10T21:02:53 < PaulFertser> I helped adding it so I am sure it works :) 2016-08-10T21:03:06 < Steffanx> how up to date is the firmware of your bmp basepusher? 2016-08-10T21:03:44 < basepusher> just updated it 2 days ago 2016-08-10T21:03:48 < Steffanx> ok. 2016-08-10T21:03:49 < Steffanx> :) 2016-08-10T21:04:19 < Rob235> ehh, not very pretty but doesn't matter: http://imgur.com/a/Yf5wb 2016-08-10T21:04:19 < basepusher> i'm not exactly sure as to how it works 2016-08-10T21:04:33 < basepusher> but it was really wierd cause it sometimes works when i hold down the button and sometimes doesn't 2016-08-10T21:04:50 < basepusher> oh yea and when i attach the probe in the event it does work, it breaks on 0x0000000 2016-08-10T21:04:56 < Steffanx> Rob235, i really get the idea you are procastinating the flying the thing part. :P 2016-08-10T21:04:58 < PaulFertser> basepusher: just use "connect_srst enable" and it'll push it for you at the right time. 2016-08-10T21:05:16 < Rob235> its raining today 2016-08-10T21:05:25 < Rob235> and still some stuff to do 2016-08-10T21:06:04 < Rob235> but yea I'm not really rushing to crash it heh 2016-08-10T21:06:06 < bartekww> Steffanx: so why it isnt working 2016-08-10T21:06:28 < bartekww> example from github also isn't 2016-08-10T21:06:55 < Laurenceb__> wow they thought of everything 2016-08-10T21:06:58 < Laurenceb__> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qbluetoothuuid.html 2016-08-10T21:08:08 < basepusher> PaulFertser: thanks!!! yea it seems to work reliably now when i hold down reset switch and attach 2016-08-10T21:08:48 < Steffanx> Why you want the remap btw? Why not use pa9/10 bartekww 2016-08-10T21:09:53 < PaulFertser> basepusher: you're supposed to connect your target's SRST to BMP's SRST and not hold down anything manually. 2016-08-10T21:10:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.151.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-10T21:11:00 < bartekww> Steffanx: the example is using pa9/10 but it isnt working :/ 2016-08-10T21:12:58 < Steffanx> the jumpers should be set to 0 btw. Those jumpers are boot0 and 1 2016-08-10T21:13:44 < Steffanx> otherwise it will start the uart bootloader or start form sram 2016-08-10T21:13:46 < Steffanx> *from 2016-08-10T21:14:05 < Steffanx> (depending on how you have the jumpers) 2016-08-10T21:14:30 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T21:15:56 < bartekww> both on 0 Steffanx 2016-08-10T21:16:05 < bartekww> changed to pa9/10 still nothing 2016-08-10T21:16:15 < bartekww> not receiving anything on pc 2016-08-10T21:16:25 < basepusher> PaulFertser: i am trying to understand SRST. so that has nothing to do with the bmp jtag connector right? 2016-08-10T21:16:35 < Steffanx> if even some example doesn't work, and you are sure the example is for this board. then i dont know. 2016-08-10T21:16:40 < basepusher> is that pin 10 reset? 2016-08-10T21:17:05 < Laurenceb__> are you trying to bootload? 2016-08-10T21:17:11 < bartekww> yup, for that board Steffanx 2016-08-10T21:17:40 < PaulFertser> basepusher: on target it's target called nRST usually, same on JTAG connector. 2016-08-10T21:19:43 < Lux> bartekww: isn't pa9/10 usb ? 2016-08-10T21:19:59 < Steffanx> does it actually run bartekww? Toggling some pin? Get openocd? 2016-08-10T21:21:12 < basepusher> PaulFertser: ah ok so my RESET = SRST = NRST right? 2016-08-10T21:21:15 < Steffanx> also, is your makefile stuff doing the right think? Correct startup code, vectors wahtever? 2016-08-10T21:21:19 < PaulFertser> basepusher: yes 2016-08-10T21:21:37 < basepusher> hmm cool, i do have it connected though 2016-08-10T21:21:43 < Lux> blinking a led is allways good 2016-08-10T21:22:15 < basepusher> may be bad connection issue 2016-08-10T21:23:10 < PaulFertser> basepusher: then you do not need to push anything manually with that option active. 2016-08-10T21:23:47 -!- TecDroiD [~AndChat21@tmo-106-15.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T21:24:00 < basepusher> i see, so what the button on the board is doing is it is setting the SRST/RESET JTAG pin on the board 2016-08-10T21:34:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-10T21:40:41 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T21:45:50 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T21:46:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T21:47:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.126] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T21:47:50 -!- TecDroiD [~AndChat21@tmo-106-15.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2016-08-10T21:49:25 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T21:49:55 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jpqibgfenawgocpd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-10T21:56:01 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-10T22:01:37 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-10T22:05:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-10T22:05:48 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-10T22:10:09 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T22:51:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-10T22:55:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.126] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-10T22:58:41 < jadew> aandrew, if you get a chance, please ask your daughter if it's the cop, I'm at season 1 2016-08-10T22:59:10 < jadew> I don't want any other spoilers tho 2016-08-10T22:59:18 < jadew> it's a good show to have running while working 2016-08-10T22:59:29 < Steffanx> lol jadew. 2016-08-10T22:59:41 < Steffanx> control yourself, dont ask for spoilers :P 2016-08-10T23:00:04 < jadew> :P 2016-08-10T23:04:02 < Tectu> time for a shower 2016-08-10T23:04:06 < Tectu> wrong window. 2016-08-10T23:04:40 < ReadError> uhhh that belongs in no window sir 2016-08-10T23:05:01 < jadew> haha 2016-08-10T23:05:12 < Steffanx> you dont want to know what he and jpa- discuss 2016-08-10T23:05:44 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.214.163] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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2016-08-11T02:00:21 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-11T02:01:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-11T02:07:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T02:15:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T02:21:07 < Laurenceb__> eww this is making my head hurt 2016-08-11T02:21:09 < Laurenceb__> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qbluetoothdevicediscoveryagent.html#error-1 2016-08-11T02:29:31 < Laurenceb__> I'm not sure what they mean :-/ 2016-08-11T02:31:10 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-11T02:35:11 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeepdh@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T02:42:03 < upgrdman> youre not sure about why there could be an error? 2016-08-11T02:42:13 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP493LmSJrE&feature=youtu.be 2016-08-11T02:42:23 < ReadError> how autistic is he Laurenceb__ 2016-08-11T02:42:28 -!- Steffann_ [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uyxpjjicshyvamne] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-11T02:42:30 < ReadError> and what *chan is he from 2016-08-11T02:49:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T02:49:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-11T02:49:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-11T02:58:44 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-11T03:01:10 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T03:02:53 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-11T03:03:23 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-11T03:24:00 -!- garfong [~garfong@pool-100-14-106-136.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T03:40:48 -!- bourbon is now known as ` 2016-08-11T03:40:50 -!- ` is now known as `` 2016-08-11T03:40:56 -!- `` is now known as ```` 2016-08-11T03:40:59 -!- ```` is now known as ````` 2016-08-11T03:41:03 -!- ````` is now known as `````` 2016-08-11T03:41:33 -!- `````` is now known as Guest37417 2016-08-11T03:41:46 -!- Guest37417 is now known as bourbon 2016-08-11T03:42:31 -!- sockofleas [18be55be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.190.85.190] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T03:43:31 < sockofleas> do you guys know of a place where i can commission the design of a pcb? 2016-08-11T03:45:21 < Laurenceb__> not sure if troll 2016-08-11T03:50:19 -!- bourbon is now known as `````````` 2016-08-11T03:50:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T03:55:58 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Display_gui/blob/master/bluetooth.cpp 2016-08-11T03:56:06 < Laurenceb__> that was surprisingly simple 2016-08-11T03:57:17 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.214.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T03:59:06 < Laurenceb__> but I still hate bluetooth 2016-08-11T04:07:00 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/ColonizeMars 2016-08-11T04:07:20 < ReadError> do any headunits do HQ wireless audio now 2016-08-11T04:07:32 < ReadError> im sure they do but not followed that shit for ages 2016-08-11T04:09:58 < Laurenceb__> shit got real 2016-08-11T04:10:00 < Laurenceb__> https://politics.slashdot.org/story/16/08/10/2122249/assange-implies-murdered-dnc-staffer-was-wikileaks-source 2016-08-11T04:22:23 < sockofleas> do you guys know of a place where i can commission the design of a pcb? 2016-08-11T04:23:32 < englishman> freelancer has lots of devs available 2016-08-11T04:24:01 < englishman> ReadError: like, bluetooth? 2016-08-11T04:24:17 < ReadError> yea but not that fugazy BT 2016-08-11T04:24:45 < englishman> just dont bind to a headset 2016-08-11T04:25:07 < ReadError> i hate how it takes over your phone 2016-08-11T04:25:13 < ReadError> like dont play shit but music 2016-08-11T04:25:31 < sockofleas> englishman: how much does a typical job cost, would you say? 2016-08-11T04:25:49 < englishman> thats like saying, how much does a boat cost 2016-08-11T04:26:20 < ReadError> how attractive is your wife 2016-08-11T04:26:31 < englishman> "how attractive am i" -wife 2016-08-11T04:27:28 < ReadError> sockofleas freelancer.com 2016-08-11T04:27:35 < ReadError> some injin will do it for $5 2016-08-11T04:28:04 < englishman> are you designing a raspberri pi shield or a lowly intel x64 motherboard 2016-08-11T04:28:17 < ReadError> opensource arduino phone? 2016-08-11T04:29:24 < sockofleas> englishman: i know very little about pcb design. to give a short description, the board would take an analog sensor input, make a calculation, and output a signal to one of twenty pins 2016-08-11T04:34:19 < Thorn> sounds like you need a prototype and a schematics first 2016-08-11T04:34:32 -!- garfong [~garfong@pool-100-14-106-136.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-11T04:36:45 < sockofleas> Thorn: yes, i'm interested in a prototype. how would you recommend prototyping? 2016-08-11T04:38:13 < ReadError> sockofleas freelancer.com 2016-08-11T04:38:14 < ReadError> sockofleas freelancer.com 2016-08-11T04:38:14 < ReadError> sockofleas freelancer.com 2016-08-11T04:39:23 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-11T04:39:42 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.214.163] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-11T05:18:07 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T05:19:17 < englishman> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/dildo-data-hacking 2016-08-11T05:19:21 < englishman> so dongs was speaking at defcon 2016-08-11T05:21:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:98b5:bc4b:774:aecb] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T05:23:54 -!- Chip_Freyer [~Chip_Frey@node245.8.251.72.1dial.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-11T05:33:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T05:38:13 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T05:40:53 -!- kfaa [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T05:42:00 < kfaa> I am using cubemx. There are different firmware versions for a MCU. Do I need to keep the old versions? Can I delete all old versions and only have the latest version? 2016-08-11T05:42:55 < ReadError> just delete the entire thing 2016-08-11T05:45:42 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T05:45:44 < kfaa> delete? what's wrong with cubemx? 2016-08-11T05:48:51 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T05:53:04 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.214.163] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T05:57:14 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@184.75.214.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-11T06:05:39 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-11T06:13:11 < englishman> crt do you know the story of lil dongs 2016-08-11T06:13:43 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T06:14:14 < Jak_o_Shadows> are there any tricks to connecting to another device by usart? 2016-08-11T06:14:57 < Jak_o_Shadows> The usb<-> serial is working, as is the serial1 -> device 2 2016-08-11T06:15:03 < Jak_o_Shadows> but device 2 -> serial 1 is not working 2016-08-11T06:16:21 < Thorn> is there signal on the rx pin of "serial 1" 2016-08-11T06:16:54 < englishman> pretty much. i found him in a tree. and then read error suggesed the name lil dongs. https://i.sli.mg/9gvrjP.jpg 2016-08-11T06:17:38 < Jak_o_Shadows> I don't think so/I believe not 2016-08-11T06:18:07 < Thorn> is there signal on the tx pin of device 2 2016-08-11T06:18:50 < Jak_o_Shadows> well, I have em connected at the moment. 2016-08-11T06:18:56 < Jak_o_Shadows> just a second 2016-08-11T06:19:09 < Thorn> that's an assumption 2016-08-11T06:19:51 < Jak_o_Shadows> The TX pin on serial 2 is low 2016-08-11T06:20:00 < Jak_o_Shadows> when it is disconnected from the TX of serial 1 2016-08-11T06:20:20 < Thorn> you have tx connected to tx? 2016-08-11T06:20:28 < Jak_o_Shadows> RX* sorry 2016-08-11T06:22:39 < ReadError> crt gone on that meow mix 2016-08-11T06:22:47 < ReadError> get turnt 2016-08-11T06:24:31 < Jak_o_Shadows> Should the TX pin be low when idle? Should it be low even when stuff is supposedly being sent? 2016-08-11T06:27:55 < ReadError> he dead 2016-08-11T06:30:09 < ReadError> god if you or Laurenceb mentions Qt again I will need to exercise my write to bear ARMs 2016-08-11T06:30:48 < ReadError> bash life 2016-08-11T06:30:57 < Jak_o_Shadows> wxPython 2016-08-11T06:31:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> ? 2016-08-11T06:31:31 < ReadError> state your status or prepare your anus 2016-08-11T06:31:39 < Jak_o_Shadows> ? 2016-08-11T06:31:43 < ReadError> exactly 2016-08-11T06:33:26 < Jak_o_Shadows> matplotlib? 2016-08-11T06:35:11 < ReadError> R2COM what are you trying to graph 2016-08-11T06:35:22 < ReadError> why not use some jabascript 2016-08-11T06:35:40 < ReadError> pretty nice libraries make pretty chart 2016-08-11T06:36:41 < ReadError> https://d3js.org/ 2016-08-11T06:37:57 < ReadError> and this cant be real time? 2016-08-11T06:38:21 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-11T06:38:41 < ReadError> so you want crazy requirements that will break on some pcs 2016-08-11T06:38:55 < englishman> *most 2016-08-11T06:39:13 < englishman> 2d acceleration like commander keen 2016-08-11T06:39:56 < ReadError> right whatever helps you sleep better at night 2016-08-11T06:40:16 < Thorn> even builtin intel graphics? 2016-08-11T06:42:15 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T06:42:50 < englishman> all these home theater receivers are as bad as car audio decks 2016-08-11T06:43:05 < englishman> identical build and equally horrible ui 2016-08-11T06:43:09 < englishman> any 2016-08-11T06:43:36 < englishman> whatever garbage fits in 1993 honda civic ci 2016-08-11T06:44:50 < englishman> no, but apparently all car audio decks are designed for it 2016-08-11T06:45:13 < englishman> like home theater receivers are designed to have horrible scrolling lcd and gigantic volume knob you'll never use 2016-08-11T06:45:55 < englishman> thats why vw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJw02TSEyFw 2016-08-11T06:45:56 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T06:46:03 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-11T06:46:10 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/xlpe6 2016-08-11T06:47:02 < englishman> kids are cool but i wouldnt want to touch them or anything 2016-08-11T06:47:05 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-11T06:47:11 < englishman> or hear them or see them 2016-08-11T06:47:31 < englishman> sorry to hear that 2016-08-11T06:47:35 < jadew> what is a PSA? 2016-08-11T06:47:45 < ReadError> public service announcement 2016-08-11T06:47:46 < englishman> public service announcement 2016-08-11T06:47:49 < jadew> thanks 2016-08-11T06:47:57 < englishman> in usa, it means Your Tax Dollars At Work 2016-08-11T06:48:25 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T06:50:34 < jadew> R2COM, yeah 2016-08-11T06:50:50 < jadew> but I didn't use direct2d 2016-08-11T06:51:08 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T06:51:35 < jadew> no, I just used the GDI 2016-08-11T06:53:46 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T06:58:32 < englishman> go for a quick run for 10min 2016-08-11T06:58:40 < englishman> either that or snort a bunch of blow 2016-08-11T06:58:42 < englishman> whatevr 2016-08-11T06:58:51 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T07:11:13 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T07:47:16 -!- kfaa [ca0c5f60@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.12.95.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T07:50:32 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: syke 2016-08-11T07:54:18 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T07:56:44 < ReadError> i thought u did LED shit 2016-08-11T07:58:57 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:00:22 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:01:49 -!- Netsplit over, joins: syke 2016-08-11T08:02:23 < englishman> lol metcal 2016-08-11T08:02:24 < englishman> wow. 2016-08-11T08:12:06 < ReadError> Linux CODE-PC 3.4.0+ #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 1 17:06:05 CST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 2016-08-11T08:12:15 < ReadError> PREEMPT on windowz wat 2016-08-11T08:13:13 < jpa-> why not? 2016-08-11T08:31:34 < ReadError> jpa- didnt think it would have a kernel for one.. 2016-08-11T08:33:09 < jpa-> hmm yeah 2016-08-11T08:33:16 < jpa-> of course it can report whatever it wants 2016-08-11T08:40:02 < ReadError> overall im pretty happy with the update 2016-08-11T08:41:17 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:42:58 < ReadError> having updatedb/locate alone has me dripping 2016-08-11T08:44:54 -!- mentar_ [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:46:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-7cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:48:40 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T08:48:40 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T08:48:40 -!- fergusnoble [fergusnobl@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T08:48:41 -!- dan [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T08:48:41 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T08:48:42 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T08:48:42 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T08:48:49 -!- fergusnoble [fergusnobl@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:48:54 -!- dan [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:49:07 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:49:14 -!- filt3r [~filter@2a03:b0c0:2:d0::7d:7001] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:53:53 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T08:56:23 < ReadError> any of you lunixers switched to Mosh yet? 2016-08-11T08:56:39 < jpa-> ages ago 2016-08-11T08:56:49 < ReadError> pretty happy with it? 2016-08-11T08:56:58 < ReadError> features sound nice been wanting to try it for a while 2016-08-11T08:57:03 < ReadError> just not got around to it 2016-08-11T08:58:31 < jpa-> it works 2016-08-11T08:59:26 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-11T09:01:21 < ReadError> moniturds come today need to re-arrange ye ole desk 2016-08-11T09:02:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-7cb8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T09:03:33 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-11T09:08:00 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/OJn3kIK.png 2016-08-11T09:08:03 < ReadError> well fuckin oi 2016-08-11T09:08:24 < ReadError> wonder if its actually usable tho 2016-08-11T09:16:50 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-11T09:17:58 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-11T09:20:00 < zyp> ReadError, as in mobile shell? 2016-08-11T09:20:16 < ReadError> oh no, im sure thats usable 2016-08-11T09:20:19 < ReadError> i meant zfs 2016-08-11T09:20:22 < ReadError> on windows 2016-08-11T09:20:59 < zyp> I mean mosh as in mobile shell? 2016-08-11T09:21:03 < zyp> I use it when I'm sitting somewhere with my laptop on a shitty connection 2016-08-11T09:21:05 < ReadError> ah yes 2016-08-11T09:21:28 -!- qcx [50df57da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.223.87.218] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T09:21:59 < zyp> idk about zfs on windows, I use zfs on linux 2016-08-11T09:22:12 < ReadError> linux hmm 2016-08-11T09:22:15 < ReadError> not had any issues? 2016-08-11T09:23:34 < qcx> Anyone played with STM32F746? I've imported a project from cubemx with SDIO (4B), the code seems to work fine until it hangs when it's doing a single block read with HAL_SD_ReadBlocks() 2016-08-11T09:23:38 < zyp> not really 2016-08-11T09:23:53 < zyp> I'm running raidz3, so far it's handled a bunch of harddrives dying 2016-08-11T09:23:57 < ReadError> ah someone hinted about stability issues 2016-08-11T09:24:00 < qcx> fine as in, the identification data from the card seems to be sane 2016-08-11T09:25:12 < qcx> I've tried to run it with the init clock (400 kHz or so) for transfer, but it still hangs 2016-08-11T09:25:25 < jpa-> qcx: so where does it hang? debug the code 2016-08-11T09:25:56 < qcx> jpa-: I can tell you the exact point in a sec 2016-08-11T09:26:14 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-08-11T09:29:34 < qcx> jpa-: https://github.com/MaJerle/stm32fxxx_hal_libraries/blob/master/00-HAL_DRIVERS/STM32F7xx_HAL_Driver/Src/stm32f7xx_hal_sd.c does not get past line 561 2016-08-11T09:30:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T09:30:42 < qcx> well, I mean it gets stuck in that loop. 2016-08-11T09:31:10 < zyp> so check the flags, what do they contain? 2016-08-11T09:31:22 < jpa-> yeah, check SDIO status register values 2016-08-11T09:32:07 < jpa-> also, does it get to run line 568 at all? (i.e. does the transfer even start) 2016-08-11T09:33:07 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T09:33:41 < qcx> jpa-: no it doesn't, the if statement returns false and it just keeps looping 2016-08-11T09:34:18 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T09:35:32 < qcx> zyp: the hsd->Instance.STA == 0 2016-08-11T09:35:55 < qcx> I think that's the one containing the flags 2016-08-11T09:36:02 < zyp> probably 2016-08-11T09:36:12 < jpa-> to me it seems to read the status register of SDIO 2016-08-11T09:37:31 < jpa-> hmm no 2016-08-11T09:37:42 < jpa-> instance.STA indeed 2016-08-11T09:37:50 < jpa-> i wonder where that is updated? interrupt? 2016-08-11T09:37:59 < jpa-> maybe you have some necessary interrupts disabled 2016-08-11T09:38:24 < qcx> This function is polled, not DMA 2016-08-11T09:39:09 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T09:39:17 < qcx> the RXFIFOHF is a flag for "rx buffer half full" apparently, but it just seems to be empty... 2016-08-11T09:40:14 < jpa-> but the GET_FLAG function does not do any updating of the instance.STA variable, so what does update it? 2016-08-11T09:40:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:98b5:bc4b:774:aecb] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T09:45:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T09:54:12 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-11T09:54:49 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T09:57:30 -!- grummund_ [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-11T09:59:06 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T10:18:13 < qcx> jpa-: when I change the clock freq of the bus to the INIT speed (400 kHz or so), and use the bus as 1-b wide, it undergoes some transfer 2016-08-11T10:18:37 < qcx> after some loops of transfer STA gets zeroed out, and it hangs in the while loop... :) 2016-08-11T10:18:58 < jpa-> what modifies the STA field? 2016-08-11T10:19:12 < qcx> I wish I knew 2016-08-11T10:19:24 < jpa-> or is it a hardware register? (check the address) 2016-08-11T10:21:36 < qcx> I think it is. SDMMC1 maps to some APB2 address I believe 2016-08-11T10:22:11 < jpa-> it's easy enough to check the address of the STA field in the debugger 2016-08-11T10:22:21 < jpa-> if it is a hardware field, you will find a lot more help in reference manual 2016-08-11T10:25:03 < qcx> let's see... 2016-08-11T10:25:49 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T10:28:58 < bartekww> hey 2016-08-11T10:29:16 < bartekww> my stm32f103 may be broken if i plug into it 5V UART? 2016-08-11T10:29:18 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-11T10:29:40 < zyp> unless the pins you're using are 5V tolerant 2016-08-11T10:29:48 < bartekww> pb6 pb7 2016-08-11T10:29:54 < bartekww> pa9 pa10 2016-08-11T10:29:56 < zyp> check the datasheet which class they are 2016-08-11T10:30:17 < qcx> jpa-: yeah, it maps to the hw status reg. Unfortunately the manual isn't _too_ helpful. 2016-08-11T10:30:49 < bartekww> "almost all 5V tolerant" 2016-08-11T10:31:20 < jpa-> bartekww: the table will like "FT" for 5v tolerant 2016-08-11T10:31:25 < jpa-> *list 2016-08-11T10:32:39 < qcx> jpa-: there's no way to change those bits manually... 2016-08-11T10:32:50 < bartekww> jpa-: http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/datasheet/33/d4/6f/1d/df/0b/4c/6d/CD00161566.pdf/files/CD00161566.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00161566.pdf 2016-08-11T10:32:54 < bartekww> how it's named? 2016-08-11T10:32:59 < qcx> i.e. there's no interrupt that would be fired so that you could clear them, or anything. 2016-08-11T10:32:59 < bartekww> i don't see that 2016-08-11T10:33:57 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T10:33:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T10:34:03 < jpa-> qcx: yeah, so you can figure based on ref man description when the hardware will set them 2016-08-11T10:34:14 < jpa-> qcx: then figure out why that condition doesn't happen (logic analyzer can help) 2016-08-11T10:34:38 < jpa-> bartekww: table 5 on page 28, "I/O Level" 2016-08-11T10:37:11 < bartekww> what is FT 2016-08-11T10:37:29 < ReadError> 5V tol 2016-08-11T10:37:56 < bartekww> so 2016-08-11T10:38:04 < bartekww> on pa9/10 pb6/7 is FT 2016-08-11T10:38:10 < bartekww> so i didn't broke anything 2016-08-11T10:38:11 < bartekww> ? 2016-08-11T10:38:41 < ReadError> should be fine 2016-08-11T10:38:48 < ReadError> ive fed a pin much more 2016-08-11T10:40:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T10:43:31 < bartekww> ReadError: so why my UART isn't working :| 2016-08-11T10:43:37 < bartekww> even examples from github 2016-08-11T10:43:59 < ReadError> measure the voltage? 2016-08-11T10:44:03 < ReadError> tx should be idle high 2016-08-11T10:44:48 < bartekww> i have logic 8 2016-08-11T10:44:50 < jpa-> configuring a pin as output and then short-circuiting 5V to it could break it, though 2016-08-11T10:45:06 < ReadError> you dont have a multimeter? 2016-08-11T10:45:13 < bartekww> i have got a multimeter 2016-08-11T10:45:29 < ReadError> i mean measuring voltage wont tell you a huge amount but you can toggle the pin maybe 2016-08-11T10:45:31 < bartekww> it's good when i'm powering my board from stlink? 2016-08-11T10:45:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.0] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T10:45:37 < ReadError> atleast see if theres some shit going on 2016-08-11T10:45:51 < bartekww> with swdio and clk plugged in? 2016-08-11T10:46:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-11T10:48:30 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T10:52:16 < bartekww> ReadError: 0v on all 4 pins 2016-08-11T10:52:32 < ReadError> have you tried putting the pin high? 2016-08-11T10:52:51 < bartekww> nope, just uart 2016-08-11T10:53:03 < bartekww> but uart isn't working for me 2016-08-11T10:53:42 < ReadError> well configure them as just outputs and cycle them high/low 2016-08-11T10:57:50 < bartekww> and 2016-08-11T10:57:55 < bartekww> i should upload hex files 2016-08-11T10:57:57 < bartekww> not bin? 2016-08-11T10:58:01 < ReadError> sdfasdfasdfasdf 2016-08-11T10:58:09 < bartekww> ? 2016-08-11T10:58:13 < ReadError> yes 2016-08-11T10:58:20 < bartekww> why not bin? 2016-08-11T10:58:26 < ReadError> it doesnt matter 2016-08-11T10:58:35 < ReadError> what does matter is u seem pretty confused 2016-08-11T10:59:00 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-11T10:59:11 < bartekww> because it should work :| 2016-08-11T10:59:13 < ReadError> are you not using a debugger or some shit? 2016-08-11T10:59:30 < bartekww> i have got stlink on my tablet 2016-08-11T10:59:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-11T10:59:35 < bartekww> on laptop i have got gdb 2016-08-11T10:59:41 < ReadError> what the fuck 2016-08-11T10:59:42 < bartekww> but don't know how to use it :D 2016-08-11T10:59:52 < ReadError> but it should work 2016-08-11T11:00:00 < bartekww> what? 2016-08-11T11:00:02 < bartekww> gdb? 2016-08-11T11:00:04 < bartekww> or my program 2016-08-11T11:00:12 < ReadError> everything 2016-08-11T11:00:17 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-11T11:00:20 < bartekww> it should work 2016-08-11T11:00:30 < bartekww> my compiler is bad? 2016-08-11T11:00:39 < ReadError> I would just toss it all out 2016-08-11T11:00:41 < ReadError> start fresh 2016-08-11T11:00:47 < bartekww> arm-none-eabi 2016-08-11T11:01:00 < bartekww> ReadError: i have tested an example from github 2016-08-11T11:01:03 < ReadError> oh you need the avr one I think 2016-08-11T11:01:06 < bartekww> and still there was nothing 2016-08-11T11:01:11 < bartekww> i hate avr 2016-08-11T11:01:19 < bartekww> ah 2016-08-11T11:01:23 < bartekww> but i'm using stm32 2016-08-11T11:01:28 < bartekww> so it's arm 2016-08-11T11:01:30 < bartekww> not avr 2016-08-11T11:01:33 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-11T11:01:50 < ReadError> in arduino, what error message are you getting? 2016-08-11T11:02:22 < bartekww> yyyy 2016-08-11T11:02:27 < bartekww> i'm not using arduino 2016-08-11T11:02:37 < ReadError> oh thats the problem then 2016-08-11T11:02:42 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-11T11:03:18 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T11:03:21 < ReadError> but yes 2016-08-11T11:03:28 < ReadError> upload something that makes the pins go high 2016-08-11T11:03:36 < ReadError> if that works then your code just sucks 2016-08-11T11:03:59 < ReadError> and if it doesnt work chances are you are probably doing something wrong 2016-08-11T11:09:42 < bartekww> i have put A5 high 2016-08-11T11:09:47 < bartekww> and nothing 2016-08-11T11:10:02 < ReadError> change it to another pin 2016-08-11T11:10:04 < bartekww> i've never used it 2016-08-11T11:10:08 < bartekww> a5 2016-08-11T11:10:12 < ReadError> cuz some pin has got to fucking work 2016-08-11T11:10:12 < bartekww> never used that pin 2016-08-11T11:10:24 < ReadError> or u are just really fucking up 2016-08-11T11:10:34 < bartekww> how 2016-08-11T11:10:40 < ReadError> how would I know 2016-08-11T11:10:46 < bartekww> makefile + stdperiphlib + source 2016-08-11T11:10:51 < bartekww> what can be fucked 2016-08-11T11:11:01 < ReadError> what cant be fucked 2016-08-11T11:12:48 < bartekww> lol 2016-08-11T11:12:54 < bartekww> i plugget logic analyzer 2016-08-11T11:13:00 < bartekww> and it's high 2016-08-11T11:13:07 < bartekww> but i have no delay function 2016-08-11T11:13:20 < bartekww> so i can't cycle it 2016-08-11T11:13:51 < jpa-> go back to arduino :) 2016-08-11T11:15:51 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T11:16:16 < ReadError> im running for the new angry person of ##stm32 2016-08-11T11:16:22 < ReadError> big shoes to fill 2016-08-11T11:16:24 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-11T11:16:39 < bartekww> it may be that i'm using bad linker script? 2016-08-11T11:16:47 < ReadError> bruh 2016-08-11T11:16:59 < bartekww> ? 2016-08-11T11:17:08 < ReadError> what board is this 2016-08-11T11:17:17 < bartekww> stm32f103c8t6 2016-08-11T11:17:18 < jpa-> bartekww: it can be anything; get some example project running first 2016-08-11T11:17:19 < bartekww> from aliexpress 2016-08-11T11:17:28 < ReadError> grab chibistudio or something 2016-08-11T11:17:29 < bartekww> jpa-: it wasn't working :D 2016-08-11T11:17:32 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-11T11:17:35 < ReadError> open up an example 2016-08-11T11:17:39 < ReadError> flash 2016-08-11T11:17:39 < jpa-> so it could be crappy board to start with 2016-08-11T11:17:40 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T11:17:42 < bartekww> ReadError: i use linux 2016-08-11T11:17:44 < jpa-> just get a discovery, atleast they work 2016-08-11T11:17:51 < ReadError> or a nukleo 2016-08-11T11:17:57 < bartekww> it's too big 2016-08-11T11:18:12 < ReadError> they have small ones 2016-08-11T11:18:49 < jpa-> and you are still just learning 2016-08-11T11:19:17 < jpa-> once you know how to get atleast something running, you can proceed to debugging why it doesn't run on another board 2016-08-11T11:19:21 < ReadError> 'i use linux' 2016-08-11T11:19:47 < ReadError> grab the chibishit from github then 2016-08-11T11:19:51 < ReadError> the examples all work mostly 2016-08-11T11:20:02 < ReadError> and the make files work 2016-08-11T11:20:38 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T11:20:42 < ReadError> pretty sure ive used the f103 uart 2016-08-11T11:20:48 < ReadError> example/demo 2016-08-11T11:21:40 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T11:21:44 < ReadError> https://github.com/ChibiOS/ChibiOS/blob/master/testhal/STM32/STM32F1xx/UART/main.c 2016-08-11T11:34:25 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T11:34:51 < bartekww> i have got undefined reference to delay 2016-08-11T11:34:55 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T11:35:03 < bartekww> ReadError: where is delay function? 2016-08-11T11:46:33 < ReadError> what 2016-08-11T11:48:43 < bartekww> undefined reference to delay 2016-08-11T11:48:56 < bartekww> i can't get my makefile working :| 2016-08-11T11:48:59 < ReadError> how about you provide some useful info 2016-08-11T11:52:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d4016f.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T11:54:56 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-11T12:00:42 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-11T12:01:09 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T12:04:29 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-11T12:06:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.112] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T12:10:24 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T12:10:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d4016f.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-11T12:11:57 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T12:14:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T12:18:41 < Fleck> any reasons you are using stdperiph bartekww? 2016-08-11T12:20:11 < Fleck> jpa-: stm32f103c8t6 works ok here! 2016-08-11T12:22:54 < jpa-> Fleck: as in the processor, or the particular board bartekww bought? 2016-08-11T12:24:15 < Fleck> both, have many aliexpress/ebay cheap stm32f103 boards, all work just fine, ofc, maybe he got one bad, cannot exlude that possibility :D 2016-08-11T12:25:39 < jpa-> yeah 2016-08-11T12:25:55 < jpa-> though i guess the main problem is that he doesn't have a ready-to-run example for the board in question 2016-08-11T12:26:04 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-11T12:26:32 < Fleck> thats why I asked about stdperiph, can share Cube example 2016-08-11T12:27:02 < Fleck> with Makefile and linker scripts, just do make; make flash and done 2016-08-11T12:27:33 < Fleck> assuming openocd is installed and st-link V2 connected :) 2016-08-11T12:28:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T12:29:31 -!- qcx [50df57da@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.223.87.218] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-08-11T12:29:44 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T12:33:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-11T12:35:45 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-11T12:50:38 < ReadError> Fleck you cant help the unwilling 2016-08-11T12:52:51 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T13:05:07 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-11T13:12:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T13:18:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T13:20:25 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-11T13:25:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T13:41:49 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T13:42:05 < Tectu> Good day to you, only important person of ##stm32. How are you today? 2016-08-11T13:42:45 < jpa-> fine 2016-08-11T13:44:33 < Tectu> how's the ebike? 2016-08-11T13:46:53 < jpa-> working fine after i fixed the brake bug 2016-08-11T13:47:08 < Tectu> brake bug? Sounds like fun. 2016-08-11T13:47:18 < Tectu> and probably ER 2016-08-11T13:47:27 < Sync> pfft 2016-08-11T13:47:45 < Tectu> yo Sync o/ 2016-08-11T13:49:27 < Sync> I will be invading a country close to you shortly 2016-08-11T13:54:06 < Tectu> austria? france? 2016-08-11T13:54:11 < Tectu> italy? 2016-08-11T13:54:18 < Tectu> germany? v__v 2016-08-11T13:55:24 < Sync> austria 2016-08-11T13:55:28 < Tectu> ah 2016-08-11T13:55:29 < Tectu> well have fun 2016-08-11T13:55:38 < Tectu> business or pleasure? 2016-08-11T13:56:17 < Sync> both 2016-08-11T13:56:31 < Sync> painting stones red and such 2016-08-11T14:03:56 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T14:05:04 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-11T14:05:16 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-08-11T14:16:41 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T14:21:22 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T14:24:54 < Laurenceb> lul @ Qt raging in channel 2016-08-11T14:26:43 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-11T14:27:57 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-08-11T14:28:04 < Laurenceb> https://8ch.net/pol/src/1470912349894-0.jpg 2016-08-11T14:28:29 < Laurenceb> what polacks fap to 2016-08-11T14:31:20 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T14:32:26 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-11T14:36:34 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T14:40:01 < ReadError> Laurenceb axin for a +q 2016-08-11T14:40:27 < Laurenceb> hi crt, why don't you shave your cat? 2016-08-11T14:40:41 < Laurenceb> ReadError is just mad about the Qt 2016-08-11T14:41:55 < ReadError> got a meeting in 19 mins 2016-08-11T14:42:02 < ReadError> just took the fattest dab 2016-08-11T14:50:32 < Steffanx> i still have no clue what a dab is, and im not going to google. 2016-08-11T14:51:34 < Tectu> why is crt always talking about pumps? 2016-08-11T14:51:41 < Laurenceb> attn kakimir 2016-08-11T14:51:43 < Laurenceb> https://8ch.net/pol/thumb/1470860745689.jpg 2016-08-11T14:52:27 < Tectu> hi Mr.crt 2016-08-11T14:53:26 < Steffanx> did you see the aussie basketball team loose crt? 2016-08-11T14:53:27 < Tectu> Thank you, kind Sir. 2016-08-11T14:53:30 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T14:53:59 < Steffanx> Sorry that is offtopic, i shouldn't do that. 2016-08-11T14:55:48 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T14:56:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T14:58:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.177] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:10:06 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:11:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:15:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-11T15:22:05 < Laurenceb> brother josh... 2016-08-11T15:22:34 < ReadError> If my dear you use drills, slots, separate outlines to divide your board (like the condition below), it may cost you extra fee for it. 2016-08-11T15:22:50 < Laurenceb> brother Dean Saxon 2016-08-11T15:24:37 < ReadError> You can penalize different or same boards in your panel 2016-08-11T15:25:51 < Laurenceb> penisize 2016-08-11T15:27:00 < Laurenceb> wow bluetooth discovery works 2016-08-11T15:27:06 < Laurenceb> Qt doesnt fail 2016-08-11T15:27:37 < Laurenceb> it can automatically find the bluetooth hw on my system too 2016-08-11T15:28:04 < Laurenceb> no more com ports / rfcomm config 2016-08-11T15:29:17 -!- Taxman_ [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:33:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:35:23 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T15:35:41 < englishman> did anyone tell bartekww stlink doesnt source power 2016-08-11T15:36:11 < Steffanx> don't know. 2016-08-11T15:36:27 < Steffanx> but i hoped he did check his power etc. 2016-08-11T15:36:48 < englishman> goede morgen brother steffan 2016-08-11T15:36:57 < Steffanx> Het is al middag mr englishman 2016-08-11T15:37:13 < englishman> time for streudel 2016-08-11T15:37:44 < Steffanx> you mean stroopwaffle. 2016-08-11T15:38:02 < englishman> yes this 2016-08-11T15:39:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-11T15:40:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:40:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-68-52.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-11T15:44:42 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-11T15:44:56 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-11T15:44:56 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:45:59 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:46:39 < Sync> stroopwafel <3 2016-08-11T15:47:01 < Steffanx> Sync knows that? 2016-08-11T15:47:10 < Steffanx> I still have to send Teco some. 2016-08-11T15:47:41 < Sync> yeah we get them here as well 2016-08-11T15:47:45 < Sync> same as vla 2016-08-11T15:47:55 < Steffanx> in the dutchies store? 2016-08-11T15:47:55 < Tectu> Steffanx, yes, still and again 2016-08-11T15:48:06 < Sync> although not in the variety the dutchies have 2016-08-11T15:48:11 < Sync> Steffanx: in the regular supermarket 2016-08-11T15:48:13 < Tectu> you could send me half of the albert heijn, Steffanx 2016-08-11T15:48:33 < Steffanx> no i would send you some good stroopwafels 2016-08-11T15:48:42 < Tectu> ##stm32 is best 2016-08-11T15:48:51 < Tectu> my keyboard is dirty 2016-08-11T15:48:54 < Tectu> (non-related) 2016-08-11T15:50:49 < Tectu> "Dear Site owner, I hope you might be doing well. Our company mainly deals with SEO project. We ..." And I hope you might one day stop spamming. 2016-08-11T15:51:34 < Sync> send me some good ones too Steffanx D: 2016-08-11T15:51:45 < Tectu> No! Steffanx is my personal bitch. 2016-08-11T15:54:14 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T15:57:36 < karlp> zyp: trying to run http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/log/?h=usb_cdc_acm on f4 disco board, I updated for some gpio/pin changes, but it's hanging in "while(otg.reg.GRSTCTL & 1);" is that demo still meant to work? 2016-08-11T16:01:08 < Laurenceb> arg fail 2016-08-11T16:01:16 < Laurenceb> QBluetooth gives error 9 2016-08-11T16:01:21 < Laurenceb> 2 days wasted 2016-08-11T16:02:30 < Sync> how about fixing error 9? 2016-08-11T16:03:00 < Laurenceb> yup good plan 2016-08-11T16:03:29 < Laurenceb> Resource temporarily unavailable aka EAGAIN 2016-08-11T16:03:39 < karlp> zyp: original laks for that demo works (enumerates) but wanted to be in the modern age 2016-08-11T16:03:51 < zyp> karlp, hmm, sounds like it's failing to initialize the core 2016-08-11T16:04:13 < zyp> and I don't think that code actually has changed 2016-08-11T16:04:32 < karlp> yeah, I've only fiddled with Pin/GPIO[xx] stuff changes 2016-08-11T16:05:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T16:05:56 < karlp> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/406110/92073114/ is all I did so far 2016-08-11T16:09:22 < zyp> shouldn't be any difference there 2016-08-11T16:09:38 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-11T16:09:41 < zyp> are you sure you're resetting the chip properly, so the usb core is not stuck in a weird state? 2016-08-11T16:10:16 < karlp> just "run" in gdb again 2016-08-11T16:13:12 < zyp> I can't see that there should be a difference between old and new code that affects whether it'll get stuck there or not 2016-08-11T16:14:16 < Tectu> Hi zyp, how's rimworld? 2016-08-11T16:14:57 -!- mentar_ is now known as mentar 2016-08-11T16:15:16 < karlp> zyp: you seem to wait for it to be idel, _then_ issue the soft reset. 2016-08-11T16:15:22 < karlp> rathar than soft reset then wait for idle... 2016-08-11T16:19:35 < zyp> yeah, I might be doing it wrong 2016-08-11T16:20:07 < karlp> hrm, do you have any more recent code? all the laks_demo stuff is 3+ years old. 2016-08-11T16:20:26 < karlp> I thought you were using this a lot more, and even arcin stuff doesn't seem all that current. 2016-08-11T16:20:32 < karlp> I guess it's "perfect" and didn't need more changes 2016-08-11T16:20:34 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T16:21:52 < zyp> I haven't really used F4 in any recent projects 2016-08-11T16:22:12 < zyp> just some prototyping on waveshare board, and I haven't had problems with usb on that 2016-08-11T16:23:15 < karlp> hrm, was just using f4 as a basic demo, 2016-08-11T16:23:21 < karlp> don't really care 2016-08-11T16:23:40 < karlp> was going to see if I could get my serial project up on laks faster than libopencm3 where I'm failing. 2016-08-11T16:23:59 < karlp> thought I could follow your "simpler" USB stack a bit better first, use that to fix my other code 2016-08-11T16:24:27 < zyp> which hardware are you running this on? 2016-08-11T16:25:01 < karlp> currently f4, but any disco board eventually. 2016-08-11T16:25:26 < zyp> so the old f4 disco? 2016-08-11T16:25:31 < karlp> yeah, 2016-08-11T16:26:39 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: sockofleas 2016-08-11T16:27:50 < zyp> so anyway, is it consistently getting stuck at that point with newer laks, but working with older? 2016-08-11T16:27:59 < zyp> because I can't see any reason that should be the case 2016-08-11T16:28:38 < karlp> teh pin changes I did were ok? 2016-08-11T16:29:13 < zyp> sure, but they shouldn't be relevant to that at all 2016-08-11T16:30:03 < zyp> the core reset thing that it's getting stuck at is required as part of selecting the PHY, so it happens before the usb core is even ready to talk to anything 2016-08-11T16:30:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-11T16:30:42 < karlp> well, now it's gettting stuck on rcc_init on the old code. 2016-08-11T16:30:42 < karlp> wtf 2016-08-11T16:31:54 < zyp> let me ask again, are you sure the chip is getting reset properly? 2016-08-11T16:32:17 < karlp> if "run" isn't doing it properly, it's never ever been doing it properly, which I would find concerning, 2016-08-11T16:32:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-11T16:35:52 < karlp> wel, bleh, run run run always works with one of the locm3 demos. guess I should just go back to making that work properly then somehow 2016-08-11T16:36:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T16:42:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T16:43:59 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T16:47:01 < Rob235> I'm going to change battery connectors to xt90 or something so ignore the battery wiring for now :) but... will the main power wires affect the camera that they are wrapped around? I'll probably end up mounting the camera on top anyway for convenience but curious if this would be fine? http://imgur.com/a/fuJsf 2016-08-11T16:52:29 < karlp> zyp: you're mostly using l0+ now? 2016-08-11T16:53:14 < zyp> for the last couple of projects, yes 2016-08-11T16:55:44 < Tectu> Laurenceb, ping 2016-08-11T16:56:00 < Tectu> what is the average per-hour salary you get as a regular engineer in the UK? 2016-08-11T16:57:09 < Laurenceb> sup 2016-08-11T16:57:16 < Laurenceb> I dunno, google is your friend 2016-08-11T16:57:20 < Laurenceb> I make about UKP20 2016-08-11T16:59:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T17:00:16 < Tectu> thanks man! 2016-08-11T17:00:45 < Tectu> UKP == GBP? 2016-08-11T17:00:49 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-11T17:01:04 < Laurenceb> is that worth moving for ? 2016-08-11T17:01:18 < zyp> Laurenceb, that little? 2016-08-11T17:01:31 < Laurenceb> heh I could get more if I could be bothered 2016-08-11T17:01:37 < Tectu> zyp, what does an average EE engineer get in Norway if I may ask? 2016-08-11T17:01:48 < Tectu> Laurenceb, is that before or after horse taxes? 2016-08-11T17:01:57 < Tectu> or just taxes. 2016-08-11T17:02:15 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T17:02:15 < Laurenceb> after taxes, before pension and stuff 2016-08-11T17:02:29 < zyp> oh, after taxes 2016-08-11T17:03:09 < Laurenceb> I'm too lazy to organise pension stuff atm :-( 2016-08-11T17:03:23 < Laurenceb> but its prob worth it as there is gov contribution 2016-08-11T17:03:52 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-11T17:04:27 < zyp> Tectu, idk about average, but in my last job I had around 28GBP/hour if I'm calculating right 2016-08-11T17:04:35 < zyp> but that's gross, before taxes are deducted 2016-08-11T17:05:10 < Tectu> thanks for the information zyp 2016-08-11T17:05:18 < Steffanx> Tectu is moving? 2016-08-11T17:05:37 < Tectu> wanna be closer to you honey 2016-08-11T17:05:49 < Steffanx> stop that. 2016-08-11T17:06:04 < zyp> doesn't really make sense to factor in taxes when you talk about salary, since that's very individual depending on other factors 2016-08-11T17:06:17 < Tectu> agreed 2016-08-11T17:07:34 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@128.243.75.1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-11T17:14:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-11T17:17:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-11T17:31:30 < Rob235> I like this camera 2016-08-11T17:36:39 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-11T17:38:14 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T17:40:18 < karlp> hrm, just lowered my desk, thsi might be abig improvement in motivation 2016-08-11T17:41:26 < Rob235> why not get a higher chair? 2016-08-11T17:41:53 < Rob235> god I'm turning into irc peeple. 2016-08-11T17:42:11 < Sync> because then your legs hover 2016-08-11T17:42:47 < karlp> higher chair can't be fixed on the spot, and legs seem to be in the right spot 2016-08-11T17:43:06 < Rob235> man I don't know how to wire this ish 2016-08-11T17:44:06 < Rob235> a 2 pin female header cable will be secure enough with 2 penises in it to not need to be soldered right? It's just the single females that don't feel secure 2016-08-11T17:44:53 < Sync> wat 2016-08-11T17:45:36 < Rob235> like a servo cable has 3 wires, if you plug that into male header pins it feels a lot more secure than a single female jumper wire 2016-08-11T17:45:56 < ReadError> you can bend the tab in 2016-08-11T17:46:06 < Rob235> ? 2016-08-11T17:46:11 < ReadError> on the connector 2016-08-11T17:46:17 < ReadError> theres a little tab 2016-08-11T17:46:21 < Tectu> better calculate mathematical model of pulling-force in function of number of pins 2016-08-11T17:46:24 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-11T17:46:29 < ReadError> yes what Tectu said 2016-08-11T17:46:41 < Steffanx> better make a 3d model and simulate with mathlab. 2016-08-11T17:46:52 < Tectu> fu Steffanx 2016-08-11T17:47:20 < Rob235> I'm just wondering if it's ok to leave any 2+ connectors as is and just solder the single female jumper wires, or will bending that tab make it secure enough 2016-08-11T17:49:15 < Tectu> I guess it depends on the application 2016-08-11T17:49:20 < Tectu> home arduino project: it will be okay 2016-08-11T17:49:27 < Tectu> satelite for spacex lunch: not so much 2016-08-11T17:49:33 < Rob235> its a hexacopter 2016-08-11T17:49:40 < Rob235> lots of vibration 2016-08-11T17:50:23 < ReadError> Rob235 just add one of those little stick on cable securing things 2016-08-11T17:50:29 < ReadError> ziptie them down 2016-08-11T17:50:46 < Tectu> and choose an LED pattern that minimizes vibration 2016-08-11T17:50:49 < Rob235> can you get me a link to what you're talkin about? 2016-08-11T17:51:00 < Rob235> stick on cable securing things? 2016-08-11T17:51:05 < ReadError> https://www.belmetric.com/images/Square%20Zip%20Tie%20Cable%20Mount%204%20Way%201.jpg 2016-08-11T17:51:18 < Tectu> adding payload. 2016-08-11T17:51:27 < ReadError> precious milliseconds 2016-08-11T17:52:06 < Rob235> wtf is that square for 2016-08-11T17:52:15 < ReadError> you stick it to shit 2016-08-11T17:52:22 < ReadError> then you can put a ziptie through it 2016-08-11T17:52:22 < Rob235> oh 2016-08-11T17:52:38 < Rob235> I'm overcomplicating shit as usual 2016-08-11T17:53:49 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T17:58:30 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-11T18:02:13 < jpa-> Rob235: i would superglue the single connectors together, so that they in a way just form a multi-pin connector which stays better 2016-08-11T18:02:29 < jpa-> but on the other hand, you could just buy a multi-pin housing and put the sockets into that 2016-08-11T18:05:40 < Rob235> I have some jst connectors, but they wont fit in the protoboard, I really want to start working on the circuit board for this... 2016-08-11T18:05:58 < Rob235> I like that glue idea, I'll do that for now 2016-08-11T18:06:15 < Rob235> pushing the tabs in is helping too 2016-08-11T18:09:01 -!- garfong [~garfong@pool-100-14-106-136.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:10:33 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/iZxan ... it took that much crap to balance the hubs, that should be ok since it's so close to the center and I tried to keep the form of the blades... 2016-08-11T18:11:04 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:16:50 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKqY8sy3nkM 2016-08-11T18:16:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:31:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.177] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:31:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:33:07 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:33:08 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T18:45:37 < Laurenceb> https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2016/Aug/11/LiveLeak-dot-com-96b_1470890243-images_1470890473.jpg.resized.jpg?d5e8cc8eccfb6039332f41f6249e92b06c91b4db65f5e99818bdd0964447d9d7a5aa&ec_rate=230 2016-08-11T18:48:02 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:52:39 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-11T18:55:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T18:56:15 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-11T18:58:58 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-11T19:01:10 < Rob235> wow this is boring... popping out the female header pins and putting the crimped wires into the new 3 wire ones 2016-08-11T19:11:06 < karlp> more fun than flying though right? 2016-08-11T19:15:06 < Rob235> uhh sure 2016-08-11T19:16:04 < Laurenceb> less boring than bluetooth 2016-08-11T19:17:32 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T19:21:13 < ReadError> Anti-hotlink protection: The hash code for the file you tried to view has expired. 2016-08-11T19:21:13 < ReadError> To find the original location, click here to go to the liveleak frontpage 2016-08-11T19:21:16 < ReadError> once again 2016-08-11T19:21:22 < ReadError> UNFUNNY LAURENCEB 2016-08-11T19:21:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-11T19:21:37 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-11T19:22:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T19:28:10 -!- garfong [~garfong@pool-100-14-106-136.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-11T19:31:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-11T19:40:30 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T19:40:30 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-11T19:40:30 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T19:40:50 < englishman> Ran for 16:48:41 Total XP Earned: 193795 Average: 11527.56/h 2016-08-11T19:40:52 < englishman> best so far 2016-08-11T19:41:37 < Steffanx> but much. 2016-08-11T19:41:40 < Steffanx> bot 2016-08-11T19:44:09 < englishman> i got a business card from a pcb house. enig on 10 mil black fr4. looks dope 2016-08-11T19:44:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T19:45:02 < englishman> he can do multiple silkscreen layers. so i can have all the colours of the raindoge 2016-08-11T19:45:57 < englishman> can i get some stroop too Steffanx 2016-08-11T19:46:04 < englishman> not many dutchie stores around here 2016-08-11T19:46:10 < englishman> low demand for salty licorice 2016-08-11T19:46:26 < Steffanx> salty? 2016-08-11T19:46:38 < Steffanx> Stroopwafels aint even close to being that 2016-08-11T19:46:38 < kakimir> sup electromonks 2016-08-11T19:46:48 < englishman> yeah 2016-08-11T19:46:53 < englishman> but you get them in the same store 2016-08-11T19:46:57 < englishman> the dutch store 2016-08-11T19:49:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T19:52:50 < kakimir> Sync: have you made ever CF laminate to aluminum conjunction? 2016-08-11T19:54:32 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T19:55:57 < kakimir> I wonder how many and what weight GF layers to use as galvanic isolation 2016-08-11T19:59:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-11T20:03:55 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T20:08:14 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T20:11:37 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-11T20:12:53 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/iZxan 2016-08-11T20:14:02 < Tectu> is the purpose of that velcro solely to keep the cables from going mayhem? 2016-08-11T20:15:36 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-11T20:15:56 < englishman> cool 2016-08-11T20:17:05 < kakimir> imgur.. 2016-08-11T20:17:06 < Rob235> should I add some electrical tape to the gold bordered hole above the tarot logo to help with the sharp edges? 2016-08-11T20:17:12 < kakimir> almost got me 2016-08-11T20:17:21 < Rob235> ? 2016-08-11T20:17:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T20:18:48 < kakimir> viral images bar on right 2016-08-11T20:18:54 < kakimir> start clicking them 2016-08-11T20:19:09 < Rob235> ahh heh 2016-08-11T20:19:20 < kakimir> stop few images later - it has been 3hours 2016-08-11T20:19:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-11T20:19:53 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T20:20:36 < Rob235> those props (bottom pic) are fine right? It took a ton of glue/electrical tape to balance the hub on these horrible props. 2016-08-11T20:21:28 < englishman> go fly it first 2016-08-11T20:21:36 < Tectu> crash* 2016-08-11T20:21:42 < englishman> thats implied 2016-08-11T20:21:47 < englishman> landing is the only mandatory part of flying 2016-08-11T20:21:56 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-11T20:26:11 < Rob235> thats not an answer 2016-08-11T20:26:20 < Rob235> do you not know? 2016-08-11T20:26:39 < englishman> i don't balance props anymore 2016-08-11T20:26:46 < englishman> since it's just a huge time sink 2016-08-11T20:26:57 < englishman> and if your balanced is unbalanced, nothing useful will happen anyway. 2016-08-11T20:27:02 < englishman> *balancer 2016-08-11T20:27:25 < Rob235> hmm 2016-08-11T20:27:25 < Tectu> Rob235, where are you from if I may ask? 2016-08-11T20:27:43 < Steffanx> his hom. 2016-08-11T20:27:45 < Steffanx> mom 2016-08-11T20:27:45 < Rob235> new jersey, US 2016-08-11T20:27:59 < Tectu> ok 2016-08-11T20:28:59 < englishman> /topic ##stm32 stroopwaffel giveaway! Everyone in this channel should PM Steffanx for their free ##stm32 branded stroops! 2016-08-11T20:29:22 < Steffanx> Free? I never mentioned anything about free. 2016-08-11T20:30:05 < effractur> lol 2016-08-11T20:30:11 < effractur> stroopwaffels 2016-08-11T20:30:37 < Steffanx> ah another volunteer i hear. 2016-08-11T20:30:39 < effractur> nomnom 2016-08-11T20:34:02 < englishman> zypsnips/stroopwafel.txt 2016-08-11T20:34:18 < englishman> put your name in and Steffanx will send you the syrupy cakes 2016-08-11T20:36:00 < Steffanx> Ok, free stroopwafels, you can pick them up after dongs's funeral 2016-08-11T20:41:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:d9ac:e853:a941:4685] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T20:41:46 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-11T20:42:45 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T20:48:14 < Rob235> is it ok to leave gnd wires of battery connected when not using it at the moment (and just disconnect power)? The only negative I can think of is pwr wires accidentally touching 2016-08-11T20:59:29 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-11T20:59:32 < englishman> thats a pretty big negative 2016-08-11T21:02:58 < Rob235> not how its set up 2016-08-11T21:04:19 < Tectu> Hi effractur haven't seen you around in a while 2016-08-11T21:04:47 < effractur> hi 2016-08-11T21:09:08 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T21:13:55 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T21:13:55 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-11T21:14:08 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-11T21:18:07 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774a20.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T21:37:34 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2016-08-11T21:38:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T21:39:20 < Laurenceb> aha "fixed" bluetooth issues 2016-08-11T21:39:29 < Laurenceb> its the RN42 module 2016-08-11T21:54:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2016-08-11T22:22:34 < owl-v-> how do you make one microcontroller to talk to many microcontrollers ? 2016-08-11T22:24:41 < kakimir> use some of it's comm peripherals or bitbang with gpio 2016-08-11T22:26:36 < kakimir> talk to many? i2c or then implement something else with fixed timing per device or collision detection or master driven communication 2016-08-11T22:26:44 < kakimir> canbus 2016-08-11T22:27:10 < owl-v-> I was thinking CAN and LIN, too 2016-08-11T22:27:14 < kakimir> has the stuff 2016-08-11T22:27:27 < Tectu> owl-v-, it really depends on the application / your needs 2016-08-11T22:27:32 < Tectu> eg. CAN is very bandwidth limiting 2016-08-11T22:27:42 < Tectu> afaik 1 Mbps is the official max. speed on that 2016-08-11T22:30:08 < kakimir> does stm32 have faster can btw.? 2016-08-11T22:32:42 < kakimir> or just basic can block by bosch that is featured in other chips too? 2016-08-11T22:55:48 < owl-v-> stm32f7 might have CAN-FD which is much faster 2016-08-11T22:57:29 < Tectu> owl-v-, what's your application? 2016-08-11T22:57:43 < Tectu> if you want to stream large amounts of data, CAN would be wrong for example 2016-08-11T22:57:52 < Tectu> s/wrong/not_optimal 2016-08-11T22:59:27 < owl-v-> robotics / many distributed controllers 2016-08-11T23:00:46 < kakimir> yes.. can-fd 2016-08-11T23:09:17 < Sync> rs485/422 2016-08-11T23:09:25 < Sync> ethernet 2016-08-11T23:11:05 < Tectu> LORA :p 2016-08-11T23:12:47 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T23:14:42 < Sync> ethernet is actually not too shitty 2016-08-11T23:14:49 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T23:19:11 < kakimir> you can get phytters in price of.. 1usd? 2016-08-11T23:19:19 < kakimir> or something 2016-08-11T23:21:13 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-11T23:21:15 < Sync> yes 2016-08-11T23:23:51 < kakimir> Sync: have you made CF to aluminum conjunctions? 2016-08-11T23:27:52 < kakimir> and what is about doing threatments for metal parts rigth before binding 2016-08-11T23:28:00 < kakimir> some chemical activation 2016-08-11T23:32:20 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T23:35:37 < Sync> sandblast 2016-08-11T23:36:01 < kakimir> and you should bond it before oxide layer forms rite? 2016-08-11T23:36:12 < Sync> the oxide layer forms instantly 2016-08-11T23:36:23 < Sync> but yes, you should not let it sit for ages 2016-08-11T23:36:46 < kakimir> does it? 2016-08-11T23:36:58 < Sync> you an also etch it, the only thing you want to acheive is get a low contact angle 2016-08-11T23:37:01 < Sync> yes 2016-08-11T23:37:26 < kakimir> low contact angle? 2016-08-11T23:37:59 < Sync> imagine a drop on a plate of glass 2016-08-11T23:38:13 < Sync> it either wets it (low contact angle) or forms a drop (high contact angle) 2016-08-11T23:43:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-11T23:45:13 < kakimir> wet by what? 2016-08-11T23:48:22 < kakimir> http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/bonding-aluminum-epoxy-236706/http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/bonding-aluminum-epoxy-236706/ 2016-08-11T23:49:21 < Tectu> the liquid of the drop either wets the glass (it spreads across the glass surface) or it stays in place (it is a ball/drop sitting on the surface) 2016-08-11T23:56:46 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T23:56:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T23:56:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T23:57:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-11T23:57:34 -!- sterna2 [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-11T23:57:55 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Day changed Fri Aug 12 2016 2016-08-12T00:05:24 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-12T00:19:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T00:21:08 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-12T00:25:00 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T00:26:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-12T00:31:22 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T00:31:30 < kakimir> Tectu: drop of what? 2016-08-12T00:31:41 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-12T00:31:51 < Tectu> Sync, please help 2016-08-12T00:32:40 < Sync> ok? 2016-08-12T00:32:41 < Laurenceb__> I "solved" by bluetooth issues 2016-08-12T00:32:44 < Laurenceb__> *my 2016-08-12T00:32:57 < Laurenceb__> turns out it was the RN42 modules going mental 2016-08-12T00:32:59 < Tectu> Sync, kakimir need more explanation 2016-08-12T00:33:07 < Tectu> Sync, and I am not sure whether I am doing it wrong 2016-08-12T00:33:13 < Tectu> contgratz Mr. Laurenceb 2016-08-12T00:33:32 < Laurenceb__> dunno how to fix this as I have a ton of boards with RN42 on them 2016-08-12T00:33:33 < kakimir> Sync: are you talking about acid? 2016-08-12T00:33:46 < kakimir> *etching liquid 2016-08-12T00:36:13 < kakimir> or laminating technical low contact angle something 2016-08-12T00:36:50 < Sync> yes, you can etch the oxide off, usually using caustic solutions 2016-08-12T00:37:08 < Laurenceb__> off aluminium? 2016-08-12T00:37:16 < Sync> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Contact_angle.svg 2016-08-12T00:37:20 < Sync> contact angle 2016-08-12T00:37:21 < Sync> yes Laurenceb__ 2016-08-12T00:37:46 < Laurenceb__> does that improve adhesion? 2016-08-12T00:38:12 -!- sterna2 [~Adium@c-59b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T00:38:23 < Sync> yes, it lowers the surface energy 2016-08-12T00:38:50 < Laurenceb__> huh dont you want high surface energy? 2016-08-12T00:39:07 < Sync> ah yeah, I always confuse the two 2016-08-12T00:39:29 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-12T00:39:50 < Laurenceb__> surface energy is confusing 2016-08-12T00:40:05 < Laurenceb__> a lot of the time adhesive either works quite well or fails utterly 2016-08-12T00:40:39 < Sync> I always confuse it with the low contact angle 2016-08-12T00:40:42 < Laurenceb__> I had a problem where I was trying to assembly pneumatic parts made from ABS and Nylon 6,6 with CA 2016-08-12T00:40:55 < Laurenceb__> and different brands performed massively differently 2016-08-12T00:41:21 < Laurenceb__> in the end I found only Loctite 1401 worked over a wide temperature range and after aging 2016-08-12T00:41:52 < Sync> yes 2016-08-12T00:42:00 < Sync> it is a science in itself 2016-08-12T00:42:23 < Laurenceb__> tried about 8 other CA adhesives and they all failed within a few weeks, with the parts literally falling apart on the desk 2016-08-12T00:43:16 < Laurenceb__> spoke to some field application engineers and they thought it was plasticiser migration from the ABS into the joint 2016-08-12T00:46:25 < Sync> I think loctite 1401 is made here 2016-08-12T00:48:10 < Laurenceb__> erm wait 2016-08-12T00:48:11 < Laurenceb__> 401 2016-08-12T00:48:14 < Laurenceb__> http://www.loctite.co.uk/sea/content_data/93806_NEWCA401EN.pdf 2016-08-12T00:53:21 < Sync> hm, that could actually really be made here 2016-08-12T01:04:20 < Laurenceb__> looks like RN42 dies horribly if it has >10kByte/s in one direction and >100Byte/s in the other 2016-08-12T01:04:36 < Laurenceb__> so much for 3Mbps EDR bluetooth 2016-08-12T01:06:38 < Laurenceb__> the weird thing is that it can go up to 30Kbyte/s in one direction 2016-08-12T01:06:53 < Laurenceb__> bidirectional data seems to make it very unstable 2016-08-12T01:07:03 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T01:08:17 < Laurenceb__> as it uses the same CSR chipset as loads of cheap bluetooth dongles, I'm not sure how much better they would be 2016-08-12T01:10:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-12T01:13:32 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T01:24:46 -!- _unreal [~AndChat60@99-60-100-45.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T01:24:51 < _unreal> hello 2016-08-12T01:24:54 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774a20.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T01:26:37 < _unreal> any one around? 2016-08-12T01:28:00 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-12T01:28:14 < Laurenceb__> I'm around / generally raging at the fail that surrounds me 2016-08-12T01:28:24 < _unreal> heh 2016-08-12T01:28:39 < _unreal> is this just a general chat about stm32's? 2016-08-12T01:28:45 < _unreal> I have an stm32f4 discovery 2016-08-12T01:29:15 < _unreal> I also have a pixhawk flight conttroller for my 760mm jumbo quadcopter 2016-08-12T01:30:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-12T01:30:37 < Laurenceb__> think of this channel as the 4chan of stm32 2016-08-12T01:30:54 < _unreal> as I recall the pixhawk has the exact same processor plus a bunch of sensors. 2016-08-12T01:30:57 < _unreal> ? ok 2016-08-12T01:31:05 < kakimir> and desperatelly try to make it fit your view 2016-08-12T01:31:16 < _unreal> ? 2016-08-12T01:31:33 < _unreal> heh now I think you've lost me :) 2016-08-12T01:31:37 < kakimir> Laurenceb__ 2016-08-12T01:31:56 < Laurenceb__> me too 2016-08-12T01:32:14 < kakimir> Laurenceb__ and only Laurenceb__ 2016-08-12T01:32:31 < Laurenceb__> I am your everything 2016-08-12T01:33:14 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-12T01:33:50 < _unreal> long story short I know there are some projects out there to use the stm32 discovery as a flight coontroller, and the software for the pixhawk is designed for the same cpu. I'm just starting too toy with how hard it would be to mod the discovery board to be a pixhawk " " 2016-08-12T01:34:38 < kakimir> there is multiple people here that have done their own boards for fligth controller 2016-08-12T01:34:56 < _unreal> the only difference besides the gyro's etc.. and other sensors is really the CPU and RAM. the cpu is clocked much faster and 2x the ram 2016-08-12T02:03:37 < zyp> what do you mean by clocked much faster? 2016-08-12T02:05:40 < zyp> hmm, it's using a F427 2016-08-12T02:06:02 < zyp> more ram and flash than the F407, but it's not significantly faster 2016-08-12T02:06:26 < zyp> it can do 180MHz, but according to the pixhawk site they clock it at the same 168MHz that the F407 can do 2016-08-12T02:07:47 < zyp> assuming you can slim it down to fit in 64k less ram, it should be rather doable, assuming you can reorganize the IOs to make it work 2016-08-12T02:09:05 < Rob235> hmm.... 6 balanced props attached with lock nuts, batteries charging 2016-08-12T02:09:14 < karlp> if you have a pixhawk controller, why not just use it as is? 2016-08-12T02:09:19 < Laurenceb__> not sure its necessary to get that much speed 2016-08-12T02:09:30 < Laurenceb__> firmware for flight controllers is a massive job 2016-08-12T02:09:49 < Laurenceb__> best to get off the shelf, there is little room for innovation now 2016-08-12T02:10:01 < Laurenceb__> I'd recommend pixhawk as its made by pros 2016-08-12T02:10:10 < Laurenceb__> unlike.... ardupilot 2016-08-12T02:10:51 < Laurenceb__> lul @ uk tv 2016-08-12T02:11:22 < Laurenceb__> www.channel4.com/programmes/naked-attraction 2016-08-12T02:11:38 < Laurenceb__> like the japan 4chan memes made real 2016-08-12T02:11:44 < _unreal> f427? 2016-08-12T02:11:59 < Rob235> _unreal should use my firmware 2016-08-12T02:12:21 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-12T02:12:26 < Rob235> :D 2016-08-12T02:12:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T02:12:33 < Laurenceb__> I dont get the point of writing custom firmware 2016-08-12T02:12:41 < Laurenceb__> especially when you want a gui and everything 2016-08-12T02:12:45 < Rob235> I did it as a learning experience 2016-08-12T02:12:56 < Laurenceb__> its liek writing your own pc os now 2016-08-12T02:12:59 < Laurenceb__> fair enough 2016-08-12T02:13:33 < _unreal> ? ok thats screwy, I know in the past I read that the pixhawk was running with 128k ram 2016-08-12T02:13:37 < Rob235> never did an electronics project before and thought it was a cool way to learn about multiple things at once 2016-08-12T02:13:57 < _unreal> or I have an older one? 2016-08-12T02:14:02 < Laurenceb__> as long as you avoid bluetooth and the SP1ML 2016-08-12T02:14:05 < _unreal> not home at the moment so I cant check 2016-08-12T02:15:26 < Rob235> I want to add a bluetooth module to my radio once I set up telemetry to use some android app on my tablet or laptop or something. I don't know if I want to write any more software for this thing. 2016-08-12T02:15:51 < Laurenceb__> be interested to see how well it works 2016-08-12T02:16:26 < _unreal> I'm on my tablet right now, lets see if I can get a link to an image with outt getting nocked off of irc 2016-08-12T02:17:09 < _unreal> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3vL4RqyNgQAVERxVmNrLW1oV2M/view?usp=drivesdk 2016-08-12T02:17:18 < Rob235> I might tie it up in a small room I have that has wire shelving and use bungee cords 2016-08-12T02:17:23 < Rob235> try testing out some pid 2016-08-12T02:17:45 < _unreal> is that link viewable? 2016-08-12T02:18:58 < Rob235> hey 2016-08-12T02:19:05 < Rob235> yes _unreal 2016-08-12T02:19:11 < Laurenceb__> still better than eevblog 2016-08-12T02:19:26 < _unreal> that iss my aqua quad I'm building 2016-08-12T02:19:30 < _unreal> its 768mm 2016-08-12T02:19:38 < Laurenceb__> crt: I found out whats wrong with my bluetooth 2016-08-12T02:19:49 < Laurenceb__> RN42 module is going full retard 2016-08-12T02:20:08 < Laurenceb__> dunno how to fix it tho :-/ loads of other stuff uses same CSR chipset 2016-08-12T02:20:09 < Rob235> they look like I pulled em out of a dumpster but they say they are balanced... on motors underneath lock nuts right now 2016-08-12T02:20:14 < _unreal> Rob235: the props are 13" 2016-08-12T02:20:41 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-12T02:20:44 < Rob235> ahh nice, I'm building a hex with 12" 2016-08-12T02:20:50 < Rob235> 680mm frame 2016-08-12T02:20:59 < Laurenceb__> it works nicely with up to about 30k bytes/s throughput in one direction 2016-08-12T02:21:15 < _unreal> I'm suprised you guys dont talkk in #multirotors 2016-08-12T02:21:17 < Laurenceb__> then if there is data in other direction it fails and kills whole bluetooth stack 2016-08-12T02:21:29 < Laurenceb__> well problem is picking a working one :-/ 2016-08-12T02:21:43 < Laurenceb__> I have to unplug bluetooth dongle on pc 2016-08-12T02:22:43 < Laurenceb__> no 2016-08-12T02:22:49 < Laurenceb__> thats why its so stupid 2016-08-12T02:22:57 < Laurenceb__> I only need 10k byte /s 2016-08-12T02:23:06 < Laurenceb__> yet everything is failing past about 1k 2016-08-12T02:23:07 < _unreal> I picked up one of those 3dr radio modems 2016-08-12T02:23:15 < karlp> _unreal: why would we want to hang out with rc nerds ;) 2016-08-12T02:23:34 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-12T02:23:36 < _unreal> cause I've been big in buildinng quads 2016-08-12T02:24:04 < Laurenceb__> I have a project using RN42 that puts through about 1k and it sort of works 2016-08-12T02:24:07 < _unreal> my long time project has been this massive aquaquad that will be 100% marine grade, capable of landing in the ocean.. 2016-08-12T02:24:17 < Laurenceb__> gui is glitchy and laggy but no massive failures reported by users 2016-08-12T02:24:30 < _unreal> because I live in florida and work on super yachts my quad will fit right in $ for making some nice cash 2016-08-12T02:24:39 < Laurenceb__> but when data rate is increased, epin fail 2016-08-12T02:24:55 < Rob235> _unreal: http://imgur.com/fEtUcHT , http://imgur.com/a/VJywi , http://imgur.com/a/Yf5wb 2016-08-12T02:25:00 < Rob235> I should condense those.... 2016-08-12T02:25:24 < Laurenceb__> Rob235: why not put balancing mass on the ends of the props? 2016-08-12T02:25:25 < _unreal> Rob235: I'll look but if I close out its do to the @@#$@#$ tablet 2016-08-12T02:25:50 < Laurenceb__> I'm not clicking due to too many jpeg bombs on this machine 2016-08-12T02:25:56 < _unreal> I hate how android halts all activies that are not currently active 2016-08-12T02:26:10 < Laurenceb__> I should probably use chrome 2016-08-12T02:26:13 < Rob235> ehh dont worry about it then, just some picks along the way 2016-08-12T02:26:19 < Rob235> pics* 2016-08-12T02:26:48 < Laurenceb__> >~4k pixel seems to cause firefox to eat over 9000GB and kill machine 2016-08-12T02:26:54 < Rob235> Laurenceb__: blades were balanced, the hubs were incredibly off though 2016-08-12T02:27:06 < Laurenceb__> ah 2016-08-12T02:27:13 < _unreal> ahh splash drone ya I've seen that one 2016-08-12T02:27:31 < Rob235> I switched to chrome and am happy I did 2016-08-12T02:27:33 < Laurenceb__> this is actually quite interesting, I was looking at a similar problem, balancing spin stabilised rockets 2016-08-12T02:27:53 < Laurenceb__> decided it was a doomed idea in the end and opted for unbalanced techniques 2016-08-12T02:27:56 < aandrew> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/596828870/t-drone-first-multifunction-drone-ever?ref=category 2016-08-12T02:28:04 < _unreal> laurenceb_ 2016-08-12T02:28:11 < _unreal> are you using windows? 2016-08-12T02:28:16 < aandrew> get in on the fun early boys 2016-08-12T02:28:18 < Laurenceb__> no, ubuntu lunix 2016-08-12T02:28:45 < _unreal> ok I was like 9gb for images, using chrome, must be a windows user :) 2016-08-12T02:28:55 < Rob235> I gotta get back to cleaning for now 2016-08-12T02:29:33 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erwtQFfFNTQ talk on spin stabilised rockets 2016-08-12T02:30:11 < _unreal> heh, cell phone quad 2016-08-12T02:30:27 < _unreal> I cant believe I have not gotten kicked off and have looked at 3 link so far 2016-08-12T02:30:27 < _unreal> wow 2016-08-12T02:30:43 < _unreal> god what I'd give to have linux on this tablet instead off windows 2016-08-12T02:31:06 < _unreal> pissis me offf that its an atom based tablet but i can only run android 2016-08-12T02:31:27 < _unreal> / 2016-08-12T02:31:29 < _unreal> ? 2016-08-12T02:32:28 < Laurenceb__> I should get back to working on my rockoon project 2016-08-12T02:32:38 < Laurenceb__> too busy raging to failing radio telemetry atm :( 2016-08-12T02:33:04 < Laurenceb__> lul plebbit is down 2016-08-12T02:33:11 < Laurenceb__> it pays my wages, so yes 2016-08-12T02:33:55 < _unreal> what kind of range do you get with BT telem? 2016-08-12T02:34:39 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T02:34:49 < Laurenceb__> _unreal: very shit, like 15m 2016-08-12T02:35:16 < Laurenceb__> I planned to use SP1ML modules running on 868mhz for ~1.5km range, but the firmware on those also sucks 2016-08-12T02:35:43 < Laurenceb__> ideally I should write custom firmware for SP1ML, but budget is unclear atm 2016-08-12T02:36:49 < _unreal> hate it when that happens 2016-08-12T02:36:50 < Laurenceb__> non sucking SP1ML might be a useful product... 2016-08-12T02:37:16 < _unreal> hum 2016-08-12T02:37:41 < _unreal> I forget but i believe I got one of the 900mhz radio 3dr modems 2016-08-12T02:38:01 < _unreal> I have not installed itt to my quad yet because I have no reason to :) till I finish building the shell 2016-08-12T02:38:34 < _unreal> I finished building the mold today but II have to do some more wet sanding on the gel coat 2016-08-12T02:39:04 < _unreal> :( had some chem, reactions between the plexus patches and the gelcoat when I prayed the splash mold :( 2016-08-12T02:39:17 < _unreal> prayed-sprayed 2016-08-12T02:39:54 < _unreal> was not a happy camper when pulling the MOLD off of the splash mold 2016-08-12T02:44:03 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T02:45:17 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-12T02:45:31 < Laurenceb__> you are saying you want ##stm32 to be great again? 2016-08-12T02:46:07 < Laurenceb__> Mexico will pay 2016-08-12T02:48:28 < _unreal> prob. many 2016-08-12T02:49:03 < _unreal> will make semiconductor for tequila 2016-08-12T02:50:28 < _unreal> time t go home back in a few 2016-08-12T02:53:23 < Laurenceb__> racists 2016-08-12T02:53:32 < Laurenceb__> I bet they are harassing the black duck 2016-08-12T02:57:02 < Laurenceb__> found your cat http://imgur.com/l8zEIUw 2016-08-12T02:59:04 < Laurenceb__> lul plebbit is still down 2016-08-12T02:59:09 < Laurenceb__> have to shitpost on irc 2016-08-12T02:59:45 < Laurenceb__> lul I know you were 2016-08-12T02:59:58 < Laurenceb__> no cucks on irc 2016-08-12T03:00:28 < Laurenceb__> sounds about right 2016-08-12T03:02:23 -!- _unreal_ [~lenovo@99-60-100-45.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T03:02:29 < _unreal_> ahh much better 2016-08-12T03:02:40 < _unreal_> no more tablet 2016-08-12T03:03:23 < _unreal_> if i could run linux on my tablet I'd be a happy camper but the fact that the market has "banned" open linux from them pisses me off 2016-08-12T03:04:09 < _unreal_> blaaa 2016-08-12T03:04:31 < _unreal_> at least the "windows:" tablets can run linux 2016-08-12T03:04:43 < Laurenceb__> but most of reddit is furious fapping in gonewild 2016-08-12T03:04:59 < _unreal_> ? 2016-08-12T03:05:03 < Laurenceb__> at least the blisters on their dicks will heal 2016-08-12T03:05:17 < Laurenceb__> who? 2016-08-12T03:05:43 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-12T03:05:52 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-12T03:05:54 < _unreal_> My next Quad project will be my lktr120 2016-08-12T03:06:02 < Laurenceb__> obviously one of my relatives 2016-08-12T03:06:47 < _unreal_> Laurenceb__, dont feel bad, I'm full american, but my fathers fam came from Italy 2016-08-12T03:07:13 < _unreal_> I know I have a huge fam, in northern italy that I know nothing about 2016-08-12T03:08:10 < Laurenceb__> huh I'm British not american 2016-08-12T03:08:39 < Laurenceb__> muh heritage 2016-08-12T03:09:16 < Laurenceb__> I tried tracing my family tree, got as far as Bashir Al Assad and decided to call it quits 2016-08-12T03:10:33 < Laurenceb__> you are probably part horse 2016-08-12T03:10:37 < Laurenceb__> would explain a lot 2016-08-12T03:12:11 < Laurenceb__> /r/srs already proved that with their rape culture 2016-08-12T03:12:58 < Laurenceb__> shit reddit says 2016-08-12T03:13:21 < Laurenceb__> SRS is a circlequeef and interrupting the circlequeef is an easy way to get banned 2016-08-12T03:13:59 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Shit_Reddit_Says 2016-08-12T03:20:28 < jadew> haha 2016-08-12T03:30:26 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T03:42:53 < englishman> found what dongs has been busy with http://i.imgur.com/Ki8BtNb.gifv 2016-08-12T03:46:42 < Laurenceb__> interesting 2016-08-12T03:46:51 < Laurenceb__> multiwii recommend HC-06 bluetooth 2016-08-12T03:47:01 < Laurenceb__> I'm going to try haxoring one of my boards 2016-08-12T03:47:45 < englishman> yeah crt with all the bodges 2016-08-12T03:47:57 < englishman> i got to see a pcb facility in action today 2016-08-12T03:47:59 < englishman> was pretty neat 2016-08-12T03:49:12 < englishman> negative 2016-08-12T03:49:23 < englishman> dont want to catch zika 2016-08-12T03:58:33 < Laurenceb__> http://openrcforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=986&start=30#p20506 2016-08-12T03:58:41 < Laurenceb__> houston we have a problem 2016-08-12T04:01:33 < englishman> whats the issue 2016-08-12T04:01:40 < englishman> is that one of those generic AT command bt modules 2016-08-12T04:04:10 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T04:04:45 < Laurenceb__> yeah and it fails 2016-08-12T04:04:58 < Laurenceb__> no surprise that they are seeing similar issue to me 2016-08-12T04:05:04 < Laurenceb__> I'm going to try hc-06 2016-08-12T04:06:41 < Laurenceb__> been shouting and swearing at my bluetooth for 3 weeks :-( 2016-08-12T04:06:59 < Laurenceb__> looks increasingly like RN-42 is it blame for almost everything 2016-08-12T04:11:10 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T04:14:49 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-12T04:15:43 < englishman> the doges 2016-08-12T04:16:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:d9ac:e853:a941:4685] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-12T04:19:13 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-12T04:37:50 -!- Chip_Freyer [~Chip_Frey@node246.10.251.72.1dial.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T04:39:56 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-12T04:42:42 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T04:46:03 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T04:48:30 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T04:53:24 < scrts> has anyone used this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino-/201529768817?hash=item2eec1c3b71:g:74YAAOSwZ8ZW5jfe 2016-08-12T04:54:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T04:57:25 < scrts> the usb there is just for power? 2016-08-12T04:57:53 < dongs> its connected to native USB on F1 2016-08-12T04:58:45 -!- Chip_Freyer [~Chip_Frey@node246.10.251.72.1dial.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-12T04:59:12 < scrts> crt-> where's USB in that schematic? 2016-08-12T04:59:19 < scrts> I saw it, but can't find USB connector 2016-08-12T04:59:21 < scrts> nor wiring 2016-08-12T05:01:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-12T05:07:39 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T05:15:09 < englishman> lol 2016-08-12T05:16:05 < englishman> senpai noticed 2016-08-12T05:30:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T05:33:44 < upgrdman> finish building my new pc... time to pwn some n00bs http://imgur.com/a/SKozc 2016-08-12T05:54:24 < Ultrasauce> itx? are you gonna run freebsd on it too 2016-08-12T05:56:12 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qyokoeanoathcasn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-12T06:02:49 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T06:03:36 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rnkoelyilvpbwqtn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T06:36:59 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T06:37:03 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-12T06:38:21 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T06:38:45 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, win10 2016-08-12T06:38:57 < upgrdman> i think the first game im gonna install is ut2004 2016-08-12T06:39:01 < upgrdman> i never did finish that 2016-08-12T06:39:02 < Ultrasauce> heh 2016-08-12T06:39:15 < upgrdman> one of my friends wants me to try the new doom 2016-08-12T06:39:24 < upgrdman> but 60usd on steam... i dunno 2016-08-12T06:39:58 < englishman> realterm is canucksoft 2016-08-12T06:40:01 < upgrdman> there's the flyback we know and love 2016-08-12T06:40:47 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T06:41:43 < Ultrasauce> i believe we've been over this 2016-08-12T06:42:23 < upgrdman> god damn, copying 4TB over USB3 is gonna take a while 2016-08-12T06:42:24 < Ultrasauce> freenode's services are so weird 2016-08-12T06:43:52 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-12T06:43:55 < englishman> only in canada is a 25 year old suburban white 4chan poster a hardened terrorist murderer 2016-08-12T06:44:28 < englishman> Arabic for Dummies found in room of Winnipeg ISIS supporter 2016-08-12T06:44:42 < englishman> Driver caught the attention of CSIS in October 2014 when he was tweeting his support for ISIS. That activity landed him on a watch list. 2016-08-12T06:44:46 < englishman> straight up 4chan 2016-08-12T06:55:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-12T06:56:14 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T06:56:49 -!- emeb [~ericb@198.0.219.233] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T07:03:58 < upgrdman> serious q: what's a fun game to wander around in 2016-08-12T07:07:32 < Ultrasauce> for what sort of attention span 2016-08-12T07:14:22 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, short 2016-08-12T07:14:38 < Ultrasauce> proteus is neat but not really worth 10 bucks 2016-08-12T07:37:46 -!- nikomo [~quassel@91.121.76.207] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T07:39:58 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-12T07:43:17 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28voxhetemygrgp.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-12T07:54:50 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T08:04:39 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184.175.46.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-12T08:13:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T08:19:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T08:20:30 -!- emeb [~ericb@198.0.219.233] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-08-12T08:22:43 -!- emeb [~ericb@198.0.219.233] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T08:22:56 < upgrdman> is fallout4 good? 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Who are you? 2016-08-12T12:19:16 < Steffanx> and was this you and you were in jail for an entire week? 2016-08-12T12:19:42 < Steffanx> We almost reported you as missing to the troll police. 2016-08-12T12:24:28 < Steffanx> but seriously dongs: you left us? 2016-08-12T12:32:19 < dongs> [PDF] Triggering Fundamentals - Tektronix 2016-08-12T12:34:11 < PeterM> lol, [PDF] Triggering Fundamentals - Tektronix MDO4000 with Triggering *intensifies* graded display technology. -fixt 2016-08-12T12:35:14 < ReadError> dongs how was defcon 2016-08-12T12:35:41 < dongs> PeterM: exctly, was just looking for the Intensity button 2016-08-12T12:43:24 < Ultrasauce> http://blog.pimoroni.com/why-we-wont-be-selling-genuino-arduino-any-more/ 2016-08-12T12:43:53 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T12:44:55 < dongs> seen 2016-08-12T12:45:03 < Steffanx> "It's a real shame that Arduino LLC seem to have lost any of the Maker-vibe it had." awh. 2016-08-12T12:45:17 < dongs> when first saw url, was hoping they were quitting atmel because garbage 2016-08-12T12:45:27 < dongs> closed when saw it was some faggot politics 2016-08-12T13:01:12 -!- Taxman_ [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T13:07:40 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T13:13:41 < kakimir> Sync: so by low contact angle you meant that glue has low viscosity and good wetting properties? 2016-08-12T13:14:02 < kakimir> actually low surface tension 2016-08-12T13:18:42 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-12T13:32:48 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-12T13:46:08 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T13:46:46 < Sync> no kakimir 2016-08-12T13:47:36 < Sync> the surface you want to glue stuff to should have a low contact angle, which means it is easily wetted by stuff 2016-08-12T13:47:45 < Sync> in practice it is not that difficult 2016-08-12T13:47:57 < Sync> I have successfully bonded carbon fiber driveshafts without issues 2016-08-12T13:50:33 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T13:52:28 -!- Steffann [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dyzsufiaizzbziiy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-12T13:58:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-12T13:58:44 < kakimir> Sync: do you have epoxy bonding clue recommends 2016-08-12T13:59:51 < kakimir> ? 2016-08-12T14:10:21 < Sync> it depends. I have glued stuff with regular laminating resin and it worked 2016-08-12T14:11:07 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@130-229-6-203-dhcp.wlan.ki.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T14:12:30 < kakimir> is bonding clue a real thing or something for amateurs and industry? 2016-08-12T14:15:20 < Sync> it is a real glue, no clue if it also is a clue 2016-08-12T14:16:10 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T14:20:52 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T14:30:09 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T14:31:11 < kakimir> :D 2016-08-12T14:40:15 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T14:43:45 -!- fbs [~buttercup@188.226.153.128] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T14:43:45 -!- fbs [~buttercup@188.226.153.128] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-12T14:43:45 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T14:44:20 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@130-229-6-203-dhcp.wlan.ki.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-12T14:44:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T14:45:13 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-12T14:46:17 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-12T14:54:39 < Laurenceb__> damn I hate helltooth 2016-08-12T15:01:34 < kakimir> do not get into shit 2016-08-12T15:06:29 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T15:08:00 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T15:13:54 < Laurenceb__> avoid the rageee 2016-08-12T15:14:32 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T15:15:47 < ReadError> why not use the working things 2016-08-12T15:16:50 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-12T15:17:16 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T15:17:20 < jadew> ok, this show is stupid 2016-08-12T15:18:01 < jadew> girl from suburban family does something weird the night before, comes to school and when the cops start asking questions, they look at her shoes and: http://imgur.com/a/M0Jy8 2016-08-12T15:19:10 < Sync> o0 2016-08-12T15:26:13 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-12T15:26:13 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T15:27:52 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: because bluetooth defines broken 2016-08-12T15:31:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T15:34:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T15:38:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-12T15:39:01 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-12T15:40:02 < Steffanx> why bluetooth Laurenceb__? 2016-08-12T15:40:21 < Steffanx> why don't you skip that part and just do uart and then fix bluetooth or something else later? 2016-08-12T15:40:25 < Laurenceb__> I thought it would be simple and easy to make work :( 2016-08-12T15:40:33 < Laurenceb__> course 2016-08-12T15:40:40 < Laurenceb__> it works fine with uart 2016-08-12T15:40:51 < Laurenceb__> but cables arent user firendly 2016-08-12T15:42:14 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ hm-trp 2016-08-12T15:42:18 < Steffanx> sure, is it the most important part? If writter properly one can probably even easily change to wifi or something 2016-08-12T15:42:21 < ReadError> if u got a week ago it would be working 2016-08-12T15:42:26 < Steffanx> or some real proper bluetooth module 2016-08-12T15:44:08 < Laurenceb__> whuts hm-trp? 2016-08-12T15:44:31 < Laurenceb__> oh that 2016-08-12T15:44:38 < Laurenceb__> yeah but I have pcbs made :-/ 2016-08-12T15:45:16 < Sync> gg 2016-08-12T15:45:19 < ReadError> bodgewire 2016-08-12T15:45:22 < Laurenceb__> tried to save time by making one board, then getting basics runnign on it, ordering initial production run 2016-08-12T15:45:34 < Laurenceb__> whilst still finishing firmware/gui 2016-08-12T15:45:38 < Laurenceb__> turns out thats a bad idea 2016-08-12T15:46:51 < Laurenceb__> TI ECG and LSM9DS1 might be buggy and not meet datasheet spec, but SP1ML and bluetooth are basically unfixable :-/ 2016-08-12T15:47:18 < Laurenceb__> gunna try dead bugging a HC-06 today 2016-08-12T15:47:26 < Laurenceb__> - bluetooth module 2016-08-12T15:50:02 < Laurenceb__> the fact that HC-06 looks like an RN42 with the top cover removed is not encouraging 2016-08-12T15:51:15 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-12T15:57:17 < kakimir> shold I buy fluke 12E+.. 2016-08-12T15:57:23 < kakimir> for a second meter 2016-08-12T16:01:31 < c4017> Laurenceb__, what problems have you had with LSM9DS1? I was planning on using LSM6GS3H on something soon, don't want any surprises 2016-08-12T16:01:51 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@130-229-6-203-dhcp.wlan.ki.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:01:59 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-12T16:02:48 < c4017> Laurenceb ^ 2016-08-12T16:03:19 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:04:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.253] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:16:56 -!- jijigugu [4f01dd43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.1.221.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:17:26 < jijigugu> Hey guys, I have a problem with an OLED display: 2016-08-12T16:17:27 < jijigugu> https://s10.postimg.org/4cjyxbry1/file.jpg 2016-08-12T16:17:31 < jijigugu> https://s10.postimg.org/jmju4ing9/file_1.jpg 2016-08-12T16:18:11 < jijigugu> The power seems ok, and also the video buffer seems ok, do you have any idea? 2016-08-12T16:19:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-12T16:20:21 < jijigugu> btw, the problem is that the pixels have differents brightness, and they shouldn't have 2016-08-12T16:21:06 < jijigugu> Seems that the rows with more pixels turned on are darker 2016-08-12T16:22:49 < jijigugu> I'm using the SSD1322 controller 2016-08-12T16:23:25 < jijigugu> And the display is from raystar 2016-08-12T16:24:52 < PaulFertser> I'm using SSD1325, not sure how similar it is. 2016-08-12T16:25:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:26:57 < kakimir> nice display 2016-08-12T16:27:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-12T16:27:02 < kakimir> where to get one? 2016-08-12T16:27:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:28:40 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:30:53 < jijigugu> kakimir: the display is this one http://www.raystar-optronics.com/products-category-detail.php?&ProID=371 2016-08-12T16:31:23 < jijigugu> But I don't actually know from where we bought 2016-08-12T16:32:43 < PaulFertser> jijigugu: this is how I initialise ssd1325 http://paste.debian.net/788664/ 2016-08-12T16:33:21 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-12T16:35:09 < jijigugu> PaulFertser: yeah I think is pretty much the same, my controller is able to control 480x128, but I'm using just 256x64 2016-08-12T16:35:38 < jijigugu> I took the init from here: https://github.com/MartyMacGyver/OLED_SSD1322/blob/master/Arduino/SSD1322_NHD_256x64_mono_demo/SSD1322_NHD_256x64_mono_demo.ino#L179 2016-08-12T16:35:59 < jijigugu> just needed to adjust the offset 2016-08-12T16:36:38 < PaulFertser> jijigugu: well, you might want to try different contrast and other values. 2016-08-12T16:37:39 < jijigugu> PaulFertser: yes sure, I tried almost anything.. Did you had any problem like in my pictures? 2016-08-12T16:37:56 < PaulFertser> jijigugu: I do not remember by now, was a year or two ago, sorry. 2016-08-12T16:37:56 < jijigugu> I mean, It is a common problem? 2016-08-12T16:38:48 < jijigugu> No problem at all, just asking if it's a common problem solvable with different configurations 2016-08-12T16:39:41 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-12T16:40:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-12T16:40:46 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:42:08 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T16:43:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-12T16:45:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-12T16:46:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:51:20 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T16:54:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-12T16:56:07 < Rob235> so how bad of an idea is this? :) http://imgur.com/a/UacAs 2016-08-12T17:01:25 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@130-229-6-203-dhcp.wlan.ki.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-12T17:02:03 < jijigugu> Rob235: that's cool! 2016-08-12T17:03:07 < Rob235> thanks, I'm worried about it just flipping on the pitch axis because of the bungees though. 2016-08-12T17:03:54 < Rob235> or should the pid keep it level in a situation like this? hmmm 2016-08-12T17:04:30 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [] 2016-08-12T17:10:54 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-08-12T17:11:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.152.253] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T17:12:26 < Steffanx> it should, but im pretty sure it would do that the first dozen times. 2016-08-12T17:12:32 < Steffanx> *wont 2016-08-12T17:12:34 < Steffanx> not would 2016-08-12T17:15:00 < Rob235> i'm gonna see if I can attach bungees on another axis somehow and just try raising the throttle very slowly until it starts rocking trying to leave the ground 2016-08-12T17:15:05 < Rob235> see what happens 2016-08-12T17:16:05 < Rob235> doing a last run through of all my code 2016-08-12T17:16:11 < Rob235> a couple things to fix up but looking good 2016-08-12T17:16:52 < zyp> Rob235, that looks like a pretty bad idea 2016-08-12T17:17:36 < zyp> reminds me of when I was doing this: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/uhket.jpg 2016-08-12T17:18:07 < Rob235> heh aside from the cardboard it doesn't look like a terrible idea :) 2016-08-12T17:18:35 < zyp> well, what happened was that it picked up the entire box and flipped over :p 2016-08-12T17:19:02 < zyp> resulting in this: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/gYShb.jpg 2016-08-12T17:19:10 < Rob235> is that a lpc1768? 2016-08-12T17:19:21 < zyp> yeah, old mbed 2016-08-12T17:19:39 < Steffanx> i also remember you had another nice pic of this copter zyp. 2016-08-12T17:19:39 < zyp> this was over five years ago, by the way 2016-08-12T17:19:51 < Rob235> just got one of those for its usb host capabilities but probably wont end up using it, the library isnt finished 2016-08-12T17:20:10 < Steffanx> where it hung in the air trapped in some wires 2016-08-12T17:20:20 < Rob235> actually I shouldn't say that, I might use it but it doesn't matter 2016-08-12T17:20:21 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-12T17:20:41 < Rob235> so why is it a bad idea zyp? 2016-08-12T17:20:50 < zyp> yeah, after that failure I figured «hey, let's tether it from the top instead»: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/ZGHgY.jpg 2016-08-12T17:21:06 < zyp> resulting in this: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/gYu61.jpg 2016-08-12T17:21:26 < zyp> and fuck my room looked weeaboo five years ago :/ 2016-08-12T17:21:47 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774a20.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:22:10 < Steffanx> i remember you were pretty proud of it 5 years ago. 2016-08-12T17:22:18 < zyp> haha 2016-08-12T17:22:51 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:23:33 < zyp> third take was «ok, let's try to actually make it hard to flip over», so I came up with this: http://bin.jvnv.net/f/J7cZJ.jpg 2016-08-12T17:24:41 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/hae2q.jpg <- which worked surprisingly well 2016-08-12T17:25:24 < Laurenceb> the i2c locks up occasionally 2016-08-12T17:25:35 < Rob235> nice 2016-08-12T17:25:41 < Laurenceb> but that was probably related to my ublox misbehaving 2016-08-12T17:25:41 < Rob235> that was a good idea with the poles 2016-08-12T17:25:49 < Laurenceb> LSM9DS1 is pretty good overall 2016-08-12T17:26:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:26:04 < Laurenceb> oh the temp sensor is only 8bits and 1C resolution, datasheet lies 2016-08-12T17:26:10 < zyp> yeah, the poles increases the moment required to flip it 2016-08-12T17:26:15 < Laurenceb> but the magno can be used at 1khz sampling, v nice 2016-08-12T17:26:26 < zyp> so unlike any sort of tethering, they're actually useful :p 2016-08-12T17:26:48 < Laurenceb> lul I have same vacuum cleaner 2016-08-12T17:27:03 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T17:27:46 < zyp> Rob235, the reason I called your setup a bad idea is because once it pulls enough on one of the tethers, it'll just flip 2016-08-12T17:28:13 * Laurenceb just got some seeeeeeeeedstupidio pcbs 2016-08-12T17:28:17 < zyp> and if it's stable enough that that won't happen, you wouldn't need the tethers in the first place 2016-08-12T17:28:21 < Laurenceb> quality is v good 2016-08-12T17:28:30 < Rob235> ok 2016-08-12T17:28:34 < Laurenceb> no holes all over the place any more, better quality than pcbtrain 2016-08-12T17:28:47 < Laurenceb> v impressed 2016-08-12T17:30:56 < c4017> Laurenceb, ok, so nothing major. Thanks 2016-08-12T17:31:07 < Laurenceb> theres code on my github for it 2016-08-12T17:31:26 < Laurenceb> with high speed sampling enabled thats not described in the datasheet 2016-08-12T17:32:21 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:32:29 < c4017> link? 2016-08-12T17:32:54 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-12T17:32:59 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/lsm9ds1.c 2016-08-12T17:33:22 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:33:39 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:33:59 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:33:59 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-12T17:33:59 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:33:59 < c4017> Cool. Always nice to have a working starting point 2016-08-12T17:34:07 < Laurenceb> and config in the header https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/lsm9ds1.h 2016-08-12T17:34:16 < Steffanx> did mr bartekww ever solve his issue(s) ? 2016-08-12T17:35:03 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T17:35:32 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T17:41:19 < Laurenceb> In an excellent forensic text analysis of Trump's tweets with the Twitter API, data geek David Robinson demonstrates Trump authors his angry, picture-less, hashtag-less Android tweets often in the morning, while staff tweet from an iPhone with pictures, hashtags and greater joy mostly in the middle of the day 2016-08-12T17:41:22 < Laurenceb> top kek 2016-08-12T17:41:28 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:44:03 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T17:44:39 < Laurenceb> https://politics.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9516711&cid=52689675 2016-08-12T17:45:48 < Steffanx> here. he. is. back. 2016-08-12T17:46:13 < Laurenceb> I see some loljews in the channel 2016-08-12T17:46:13 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-12T17:47:52 < Rob235> on work work or something fun? 2016-08-12T17:48:26 < Rob235> oh, that sucks 2016-08-12T17:52:15 < Rob235> what do you do 2016-08-12T17:52:35 < Rob235> if you don't mind me asking 2016-08-12T17:54:37 < Steffanx> I was going to quote you from jpa-logs, but you ain't in there. 2016-08-12T17:55:37 < Steffanx> audio visual hire / sales / repair 2016-08-12T17:55:38 < Steffanx> there. 2016-08-12T17:56:07 < Steffanx> or this was his customer, not sure. 2016-08-12T17:57:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T17:58:36 < Laurenceb> rapelair business 2016-08-12T17:58:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-12T17:59:30 < Steffanx> Where is your esd protection mate? 2016-08-12T17:59:37 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/PZIjG.jpg 2016-08-12T18:00:00 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2016-08-12T18:00:00 < Steffanx> is this time of the day again. 2016-08-12T18:01:34 < Steffanx> You dont do ESD protection stuff crt? 2016-08-12T18:02:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.232] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:04:32 -!- jijigugu [4f01dd43@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.1.221.67] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-08-12T18:06:01 < Rob235> ahh nice 2016-08-12T18:06:06 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:07:11 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:12:59 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:14:33 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T18:14:41 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:22:36 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-12T18:33:18 < englishman> _ _ _ __ _ ______ 2016-08-12T18:33:18 < englishman> | \ | | | | / _| | | | ___ \ 2016-08-12T18:33:18 < englishman> | \| | ___ | |_ | |_ _ _ _ __ _ __ _ _ | | __ _ _ _ _ __ ___ _ __ ___ ___ | |_/ / 2016-08-12T18:33:18 < englishman> | . ` |/ _ \| __| | _| | | | '_ \| '_ \| | | | | | / _` | | | | '__/ _ \ '_ \ / __/ _ \ | ___ \ 2016-08-12T18:33:18 < englishman> | |\ | (_) | |_ | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_| | | |___| (_| | |_| | | | __/ | | | (_| __/ | |_/ / 2016-08-12T18:33:18 < englishman> \_| \_/\___/ \__| |_| \__,_|_| |_|_| |_|\__, | \_____/\__,_|\__,_|_| \___|_| |_|\___\___| \____/ 2016-08-12T18:33:18 < englishman> __/ | 2016-08-12T18:33:19 < englishman> |___/ 2016-08-12T18:33:22 < kakimir> even I have esd protection 2016-08-12T18:35:22 -!- _unreal [~AndChat60@99-60-100-45.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-12T18:35:49 < kakimir> crt: your cat is doing some meth there? 2016-08-12T18:36:26 < kakimir> is it your cat? 2016-08-12T18:37:59 < upgrdman> still no dongs? 2016-08-12T18:38:08 < kakimir> looks expensive that cat 2016-08-12T18:39:28 -!- mra90 [Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:40:38 < ReadError> is your heart and anus? 2016-08-12T18:44:24 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:45:28 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:47:26 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-12T18:49:22 -!- emeb [~ericb@198.0.219.233] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T18:49:50 < englishman> haha, pokemon go bots b& 2016-08-12T18:51:30 < ReadError> did they collect a list then hit em at once? 2016-08-12T18:51:36 < englishman> looks like it 2016-08-12T18:51:41 < englishman> https://github.com/PokemonGoF/PokemonGo-Bot/issues/3746 2016-08-12T18:51:45 < ReadError> wonder if chatch got hit lol 2016-08-12T18:57:56 < Rob235> heh, going through my imgur posts, anyone ever do a metal model? 2016-08-12T18:58:26 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/wye1Q 2016-08-12T19:00:24 < aandrew> that's cool 2016-08-12T19:00:47 < aandrew> kids had a couple of those kinds of things (come in a flat sheet of die-cut pieces?) but they're too little to really build them properly or appreciate the model-ness of it 2016-08-12T19:01:06 < Rob235> yea flat sheet 2016-08-12T19:01:24 -!- emeb [~ericb@198.0.219.233] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-12T19:01:24 < Rob235> I did the xwing and my gf did the drums, it was a fun thing to do for a few hours 2016-08-12T19:01:39 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-12T19:10:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-12T19:12:31 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-12T19:13:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T19:15:18 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2016-08-12T19:15:47 < kakimir> is green and blue high temp polyester tapes the same? Sync? 2016-08-12T19:16:03 < kakimir> blue one at least is called "flash tape" 2016-08-12T19:16:12 < ReadError> PET tape? 2016-08-12T19:16:50 < kakimir> green one I bought for masking in powder painting 2016-08-12T19:17:01 < kakimir> because it has non stick glue 2016-08-12T19:17:09 < kakimir> and high temp rating 2016-08-12T19:17:55 < kakimir> it says I should use "flash tape" in taping bagging consumables together 2016-08-12T19:18:07 < kakimir> and it has silicone glue whatever it means 2016-08-12T19:18:19 < kakimir> and is blue 2016-08-12T19:20:46 < Laurenceb> so many honorary Australians in the channel 2016-08-12T19:23:16 < kakimir> http://www.vacinnovation.co.uk/page/1rzcn/Adhesive_Tapes/Polyester_Flash_Tapes.html 2016-08-12T19:25:59 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Inch-x-36-yds-High-Temp-Green-Polyester-Masking-Tape-for-Powder-Coating-/252439938042 2016-08-12T19:26:56 < kakimir> I dont understand need for special tape for bagging consumables.. when vacuum is pulled there is no need of holding things in place 2016-08-12T19:28:23 < ReadError> maybe permeability ? 2016-08-12T19:30:13 < kakimir> no 2016-08-12T19:30:52 < kakimir> it's just and attemp to seperate me from my money 2016-08-12T19:30:59 < kakimir> *an 2016-08-12T19:31:01 < Laurenceb> not funny englishman 2016-08-12T19:32:48 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-12T19:33:33 < kakimir> it's propably because in industry you need to have everything "in accordance with" 2016-08-12T19:34:14 < kakimir> so they use finest tape they can and just go with it 2016-08-12T19:34:46 < kakimir> also same tape can be used in some part that needs to stay solid in temperatures and chemical load 2016-08-12T19:35:15 < kakimir> mask something in mold or repair a puncture in bagging 2016-08-12T19:36:57 < kakimir> sun is fukken shining last time this year I need to go mow lawn 2016-08-12T19:37:01 < kakimir> > 2016-08-12T19:37:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-12T19:53:24 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@fiber7.gleis70.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-12T19:57:07 < Rob235> what is wrong with me, I just ordered $60 of those metal models all because I ran across some old pics 2016-08-12T19:57:53 < Steffanx> $60 gets you.. 2? 2016-08-12T19:58:05 < Rob235> 5 2016-08-12T19:58:21 < Rob235> I guess 60 really isnt much... 2016-08-12T19:59:09 < Rob235> scorpion, warthog from halo, and ironman for me, dragonfly and merry-go-round for her :) 2016-08-12T20:00:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T20:02:57 < Rob235> that was dumb, it was free shipping on orders over 75, I paid 10 for shipping, I could have gotten a $15 item for $5 2016-08-12T20:04:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-12T20:04:19 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T20:04:35 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T20:07:22 < Steffanx> hah, cancel order ;) 2016-08-12T20:07:55 < Rob235> heh not worth it 2016-08-12T20:08:30 < Steffanx> its wasted money anyway? :P 2016-08-12T20:08:52 < englishman> do they stell stroopwafel 2016-08-12T20:09:53 < Steffanx> I seee mr D.'s funeral is postponed, so none for you yet englishman 2016-08-12T20:10:27 < Rob235> its not wasted, my gf isn't really into tech stuff so it's nice finding stuff we enjoy doing together. 2016-08-12T20:10:41 < Steffanx> so what exactly did you get? 2016-08-12T20:11:15 < Rob235> [12:59:09 pm] Rob235: scorpion, warthog from halo, and ironman for me, dragonfly and merry-go-round for her :) 2016-08-12T20:12:06 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/IRhpEVe.png 2016-08-12T20:12:14 < ReadError> trump is losing all his support lol 2016-08-12T20:12:19 < Rob235> thank god 2016-08-12T20:12:20 < ReadError> "uneducated white males" 2016-08-12T20:12:24 < Steffanx> oh, i missed that sentence :P 2016-08-12T20:12:25 < ReadError> he has nothing left 2016-08-12T20:13:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T20:14:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-20-126-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-12T20:20:34 < Laurenceb> fucking white male 2016-08-12T20:22:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-12T20:29:32 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T20:44:51 < Rob235> shitty buttons but oh well, maybe the others coming will be better 2016-08-12T20:46:00 < Rob235> http://www.ebay.com/itm/281830878158 2016-08-12T20:46:35 < Rob235> oh they aren't that bad, the first one I picked up was just weird 2016-08-12T20:46:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3eebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T21:40:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T21:51:12 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T21:55:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-12T22:05:58 < Laurenceb> blerg 2016-08-12T22:06:04 < Laurenceb> bluetooth seems to be working 2016-08-12T22:06:37 * Laurenceb added some datarate limiting to reduce number of packets from pc to device 2016-08-12T22:13:03 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184-175-46-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-12T22:13:10 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184-175-46-197.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T22:14:49 < kakimir> trump is taking hit 2016-08-12T22:14:57 < kakimir> Laurenceb: gather forces 2016-08-12T22:19:20 < kakimir> but isn't trump really meant to step down in the game at this moment to clear way for mad lady to unobstructedly enter the white house? 2016-08-12T22:19:37 < Laurenceb> trump is paid by clintons 2016-08-12T22:20:08 < kakimir> it's a show and american&allies elites favorit puppet will win 2016-08-12T22:22:00 -!- Palsson_ [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T22:23:26 < kakimir> whatever it is they really got it 2016-08-12T22:30:05 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T22:31:36 -!- mtbg [mtbg@shell.k4be.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T22:31:41 < mtbg> hi 2016-08-12T22:31:58 < Rob235> hello 2016-08-12T22:46:59 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T22:47:32 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T22:55:28 -!- sockofleas [18be55be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.190.85.190] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T23:00:07 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T23:00:07 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-12T23:11:15 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-12T23:19:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-12T23:23:55 < Steffanx> it's me. 2016-08-12T23:26:24 < mtbg> how is zano doing? 2016-08-12T23:28:05 < Steffanx> ZANO is no longer interesting for ##stm32 2016-08-12T23:30:18 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-12T23:33:10 < upgrdman> that just because dongs died 2016-08-12T23:33:21 < upgrdman> if he was here, he'd be pumping zano like before 2016-08-12T23:37:16 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:5943:b596:ced1:9f59] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T23:38:11 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T23:40:26 < Steffanx> Dongs is back in troll business upgrdman 2016-08-12T23:40:48 < Steffanx> Was back at least 2016-08-12T23:41:59 < upgrdman> YAY! 2016-08-12T23:42:20 < upgrdman> so why was he gone? 2016-08-12T23:42:26 < ReadError> defcon 2016-08-12T23:42:32 < upgrdman> srsly? 2016-08-12T23:42:37 < ReadError> ya 2016-08-12T23:42:53 < upgrdman> does he not know that americans have internet access? 2016-08-12T23:43:15 < ReadError> he didnt want all you scrubs knowing his location 2016-08-12T23:43:18 < ReadError> can you blame him? 2016-08-12T23:43:23 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-12T23:43:52 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-12T23:43:55 < Steffanx> Hah 2016-08-12T23:44:35 < ReadError> bunch of mouth breathing nerds following him around trying to get trollographs 2016-08-12T23:45:35 < englishman> he was giving a talk about hacking into sex toys 2016-08-12T23:46:08 < ReadError> the demo was a bit graphic 2016-08-12T23:48:54 < upgrdman> "i need a volunteer from the audience" 2016-08-12T23:54:10 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Day changed Sat Aug 13 2016 2016-08-13T00:03:46 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106602ad08faf3c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T00:14:51 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-13T00:29:11 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T00:30:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3eebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T00:43:36 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T00:45:42 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7fJhxZTS7Q summer musics? 2016-08-13T00:46:33 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-13T00:47:34 < kakimir> summer mindset is really gone now.. leafs are already falling 2016-08-13T00:53:21 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T00:55:24 < Laurenceb__> sup trawls 2016-08-13T00:55:52 * Laurenceb__ sets mode Steffanx +q 2016-08-13T00:56:19 < Steffanx> Hi Laurenceb__. 2016-08-13T00:56:52 < Steffanx> Don't forget i don't do that. It's chanserv. 2016-08-13T01:02:09 < mitrax> my mobo died :/ 2016-08-13T01:02:29 < Steffanx> How/what? 2016-08-13T01:03:56 < mitrax> about 10 days ago i was complaining about a sudden BSOD with no memory dump although they're enabled, i blamed win10 and updated drivers, then 2 days ago crash again, and a reboot loop before POST 2016-08-13T01:04:08 < mitrax> 3 years old gigabyte with H87 chipset 2016-08-13T01:05:00 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-13T01:05:19 < mitrax> had the exact same problem with the previous one after 5 years... also gigabyte, not sure why i bought the same brand again, funny thing is it's labelled as ULTRA DURABLE everywhere in the package... yeah right :) 2016-08-13T01:07:03 < Steffanx> I guess im lucky. I've never had a pc that died. 2016-08-13T01:07:43 < kakimir> my stinkbad melted 2016-08-13T01:07:50 < kakimir> had 90nm nvidia stove in it 2016-08-13T01:08:34 < Steffanx> stinkbad? 2016-08-13T01:08:40 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ http://i.imgur.com/v11rAxB.jpg 2016-08-13T01:08:42 < ReadError> found ur girl 2016-08-13T01:08:57 < Steffanx> ReadError, can't you private message him with that? 2016-08-13T01:09:52 < englishman> steeeeeeeeeeeeee fffffffffffffffannnnnnnnnnnn 2016-08-13T01:10:01 < englishman> there are off topics in teh channnnnnnnnnnnn 2016-08-13T01:10:13 < kakimir> Steffanx: thinkbad 2016-08-13T01:10:26 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: old 2016-08-13T01:10:32 < Laurenceb__> I was just thinking 2016-08-13T01:10:49 < Laurenceb__> in 2011 zyp was on the same level as Chris-chan 2016-08-13T01:10:57 < Laurenceb__> judging from his room 2016-08-13T01:11:14 < Laurenceb__> but whilst chris-chan degenerated zyp didn't 2016-08-13T01:11:32 < Steffanx> yeah, englishman. I guess its better i resign from my job as channel owner and make Laurenceb__ / dongs / crt owner 2016-08-13T01:11:37 < Steffanx> i guess that would work better. 2016-08-13T01:11:49 < Steffanx> it's a lost cause. 2016-08-13T01:12:03 < Laurenceb__> my name is offtopic 2016-08-13T01:12:06 < ReadError> eh theres offtopic that disrupts ontopic 2016-08-13T01:12:07 < Laurenceb__> mr offtopic 2016-08-13T01:12:12 < ReadError> but if theres nothing happening meh 2016-08-13T01:12:27 < Laurenceb__> other than furious fapping sessions 2016-08-13T01:12:41 < Steffanx> There is offtopic and there is posting crappy images of things that really dont belong here. 2016-08-13T01:12:46 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/9D0dXgh.png?1 2016-08-13T01:12:51 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-13T01:13:13 < Laurenceb__> so everyone should post offtopic 2016-08-13T01:14:30 < Laurenceb__> wtf I didnt realise otherkin was an actual thing O_o 2016-08-13T01:21:08 < kakimir> channel is on fire 2016-08-13T01:26:37 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o kakimir] by ChanServ 2016-08-13T01:26:40 < Steffanx> Save us our lord. 2016-08-13T01:27:19 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-08-13T01:28:17 < Laurenceb__> hahah wut 2016-08-13T01:32:06 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-13T01:34:47 -!- mra90 [Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T01:36:48 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-13T01:40:37 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-13T01:46:38 -!- mtbg [mtbg@shell.k4be.pl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-08-13T01:51:53 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@66.51.141.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-13T01:53:18 < Laurenceb__> rats from a sinking shit 2016-08-13T02:08:24 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T02:09:03 -!- mitrax [~mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [] 2016-08-13T02:10:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-13T02:11:20 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T02:17:38 -!- Palsson_ [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-13T02:20:08 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T02:22:10 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T02:23:11 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T02:28:34 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-13T02:29:37 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T02:30:20 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-13T02:36:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T02:42:02 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/3sn1ldthpzex.jpg 2016-08-13T02:44:16 < ReadError> upgrdman you cruisin for a bruisin ? 2016-08-13T02:44:37 < ReadError> kakimir is in charge now 2016-08-13T02:44:48 < ReadError> no unfunny/offtopic 2016-08-13T02:44:48 < upgrdman> o lol 2016-08-13T02:45:36 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-13T02:47:23 <@kakimir> upgrdman: I try to go to sleep 2016-08-13T02:47:40 < ReadError> el president cant sleep. 2016-08-13T02:47:43 < ReadError> must stay, protect. 2016-08-13T02:47:50 <@kakimir> after watching some alien docs 2016-08-13T02:47:50 < upgrdman> enjoy your sleep 2016-08-13T02:48:01 * upgrdman hands kak the doll in the pic 2016-08-13T02:48:36 < ReadError> biker P 2016-08-13T02:49:11 < ReadError> got some show once, ended up being about AU customs 2016-08-13T02:49:19 < ReadError> all it was, asians bringing in nasty food 2016-08-13T02:49:37 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T02:49:42 < upgrdman> heh. i had two USB 4TB HDDs. i opened one up so i could use it as an internal HDD. it has such a cute little USB3->SATA adapter board. 2016-08-13T02:49:50 < ReadError> these fuckers had like suitcases full of pig parts and stuff 2016-08-13T02:49:51 < upgrdman> reusing the fuck out of that board. 2016-08-13T02:49:59 < ReadError> like they couldnt buy the shit in the country 2016-08-13T02:50:07 < ReadError> they had to bring 50kg from china 2016-08-13T02:51:24 < ReadError> they get all their shit thrown out and fined 2016-08-13T02:51:32 < ReadError> hmmm 3hrs 2016-08-13T02:51:35 < ReadError> maybe 2016-08-13T02:51:41 < ReadError> unless l0de gumps out 2016-08-13T02:52:38 <@kakimir> what is up with @? 2016-08-13T02:53:49 < ReadError> do /ban *jews!*@* 2016-08-13T02:54:49 <@kakimir> ReadError: pretty much equals /ban *@* 2016-08-13T02:56:32 <@kakimir> question is who controls chanserv.. 2016-08-13T02:56:35 < Laurenceb__> topic is a social construct 2016-08-13T02:57:05 <@kakimir> jews of the channel.. can't decide which of them 2016-08-13T02:58:33 < Laurenceb__> maybe we will really just get a shower 2016-08-13T02:58:45 < Laurenceb__> probably a good idea for almost all irc users 2016-08-13T02:59:46 <@kakimir> are you Laurenceb__ rheus positive or negative? 2016-08-13T03:00:05 < Laurenceb__> I forgot lol 2016-08-13T03:00:16 < Laurenceb__> <- dead in battlefield 2016-08-13T03:01:17 < Laurenceb__> lul -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Foucault#Critiques_and_engagements 2016-08-13T03:01:29 < Laurenceb__> "[when someone] states that it is impossible to attain objectivity, is that an objective statement? 2016-08-13T03:03:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:5943:b596:ced1:9f59] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-13T03:03:40 < Laurenceb__> the man at the center of all SJW 2016-08-13T03:04:22 < Laurenceb__> Fou-cult 2016-08-13T03:07:13 < Laurenceb__> http://www.powercube.net/other-forms-of-power/foucault-power-is-everywhere/ 2016-08-13T03:07:20 < Laurenceb__> lul expected free energy 2016-08-13T03:10:18 < Laurenceb__> ok enough #philosophy 2016-08-13T03:10:51 < Laurenceb__> also wtf did I just read "Each society has its regime of truth" 2016-08-13T03:10:54 < Laurenceb__> full retard 2016-08-13T03:10:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:5943:b596:ced1:9f59] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T03:11:07 < Laurenceb__> the module is a social construct 2016-08-13T03:11:35 < Laurenceb__> also it works now for some reason... 2016-08-13T03:11:55 < Laurenceb__> I stuck some codez in to limit data rate to the module from pc to about 10bytes/sec 2016-08-13T03:12:05 < Laurenceb__> and it works but gui can get laggy 2016-08-13T03:13:15 < Laurenceb__> at least I wrote device discovery and connection codez in attempt to fix it, its pretty hawt now 2016-08-13T03:15:03 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T03:16:00 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T03:19:06 < Laurenceb__> power produces; it produces domains of objects and rituals of truth 2016-08-13T03:19:11 < Laurenceb__> stopped reading there 2016-08-13T03:19:31 < Laurenceb__> now for something more common sense, timecube 2016-08-13T03:19:46 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T03:20:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:5943:b596:ced1:9f59] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-13T03:20:38 < Laurenceb__> Welcome... to the domain of objects! 2016-08-13T03:20:47 < Laurenceb__> this will be my new catchphrase 2016-08-13T03:23:50 < Laurenceb__> e=m*c^2 is merely a ritual, with different rituals aliens would find an alternative formula 2016-08-13T03:24:13 < Laurenceb__> obvious when you think about it 2016-08-13T03:31:10 < Laurenceb__> holy shit http://www.powercube.net/ is the new timecube 2016-08-13T03:31:54 < Laurenceb__> origin of safe space meme http://www.powercube.net/analyse-power/spaces-of-power/ 2016-08-13T03:31:59 < Laurenceb__> shit its all here 2016-08-13T03:33:48 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T03:34:13 < Laurenceb__> in other news emdrive forumz are dead :( 2016-08-13T03:34:18 < Laurenceb__> seems everyone gave up 2016-08-13T03:34:42 < Laurenceb__> apart from http://cannae.com/ 2016-08-13T03:35:19 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T03:39:35 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T03:43:07 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-13T03:48:13 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T03:56:20 < Laurenceb__> http://pastie.org/10935370 2016-08-13T03:58:41 < Laurenceb__> lulno 2016-08-13T03:58:47 < Laurenceb__> hot pockets? 2016-08-13T03:59:31 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-08-13T03:59:48 < Jak_o_Shadows> DCMI is almost working 2016-08-13T03:59:49 < Jak_o_Shadows> almost 2016-08-13T04:04:17 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-13T04:11:36 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106602ad08faf3c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-13T04:36:21 < Jak_o_Shadows> So I'm getting dcmi interrupts just fine, but I really need to see if I'm getting the dam transfer interrupts 2016-08-13T05:24:10 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/FNgcTa5.png lol semi high 2016-08-13T05:24:48 < upgrdman> how was defcon, dongs 2016-08-13T05:31:15 < zyp> dongs, uh, wtf is that for? 2016-08-13T05:31:26 < dongs> zyp, BC1.2+clonez i guess 2016-08-13T05:31:54 < zyp> but it shows a port on either side 2016-08-13T05:32:52 < zyp> and I don't get why they talk about type-C, there's no CC line stuff 2016-08-13T05:33:24 < dongs> im guessing the other port is so it can go into usb cable 2016-08-13T05:33:27 < dongs> inline 2016-08-13T05:33:36 < dongs> and the cable does fast charging when connected to a dumb charger 2016-08-13T05:33:40 < dongs> or else passes data through 2016-08-13T05:33:44 < dongs> if it detects a computer connection? 2016-08-13T05:34:06 < zyp> «fuck what your charger says, we'll just tell the device to draw all the amps» 2016-08-13T05:34:07 < dongs> thats why theres a 'data mode' and 'charge mode' leds? 2016-08-13T05:34:30 < zyp> idk, that also looks super dumb 2016-08-13T05:34:44 < dongs> http://www.semihigh.com.cn/ProductShow.asp?ID=150 lol @ official "datasheet" literally just being a jpeg 2016-08-13T05:35:12 < zyp> haha 2016-08-13T05:43:10 < dongs> oh that semihigh place is the one that cant decide if their logo look like ST ripped or nto 2016-08-13T05:43:14 < dongs> http://www.semihigh.com.cn/UploadFiles/2013527221956631.jpg 2016-08-13T05:43:27 < dongs> i thought it looked familmilar, half thier shit have that ST-looking logo 2016-08-13T05:52:03 -!- Shavik_ [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-13T05:53:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T05:54:51 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T05:58:10 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774a20.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T06:11:33 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T06:12:36 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-13T06:22:35 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T06:30:46 < dongs> PeterM: http://i.imgur.com/2HM8DNG.jpg LM358 sop8 2016-08-13T06:31:58 < dongs> ah, there was a LTC1787 under it 2016-08-13T06:51:14 < Jak_o_Shadows> Hmm. Peripheral to memory DMA 2016-08-13T06:51:28 < upgrdman> crt, nice. 2016-08-13T06:51:41 < upgrdman> seems like the au cops are taking notes from their usa counterparts 2016-08-13T06:52:02 < Jak_o_Shadows> Thi is with DCMI: I'm getting interrupts for the DCMI line valid, frame valid, but nothing for DMA 2016-08-13T06:52:16 < Jak_o_Shadows> Any idea how I can further debugthis? 2016-08-13T06:58:27 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T07:05:58 < PeterM> dongs neat - i assume the ltc1787 does its g=8 then the lm358 probably has g=10 or so and drives the line to bms thingo 2016-08-13T07:06:20 < PeterM> i am not a fan of how thye have done that shunt though, thats kinda dodgy AF 2016-08-13T07:27:29 < dongs> there's more shunts under the pcb too 2016-08-13T08:16:13 < englishman> why not hall sensor for this high current? surely it's a lot smaller, more efficient and maybe same price 2016-08-13T08:48:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-13T08:52:16 -!- kisielk [~kisielk@S010690b134fc82a2.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-13T09:21:00 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T09:26:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-97ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T09:26:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-97ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-13T09:33:50 -!- carabia [~carabia@unaffiliated/carabia] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T09:34:51 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has quit [Quit: ""] 2016-08-13T09:35:28 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T09:35:39 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-13T09:35:52 -!- celeron55 [~celeron55@everything.8dromeda.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T09:57:47 < PeterM> englishman, hall sensor has pretty bad frequency response ususlaly, and is very suceptable to external megnetic fields, being potentially near other large wires and near motors etc i wouldn't suggest. 2016-08-13T10:00:46 < PeterM> also there is accuracy, drift and noise issues 2016-08-13T10:03:20 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/TlbkivP.jpg 2016-08-13T10:03:22 < dongs> oopsie 2016-08-13T10:05:55 < PeterM> checkign to see if your batts/wall socket is/are charged? 2016-08-13T10:06:40 < dongs> yah, was assembling the 14S pack 2016-08-13T10:06:44 < dongs> and one of busbars slipped 2016-08-13T10:06:51 < dongs> tehn I thought using pliers was a good idea to try to lift it up 2016-08-13T10:07:27 < PeterM> i've got a bit of stiff plstic with a hook cut into it for that kinda thing 2016-08-13T10:08:07 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T10:08:20 < PeterM> oh, also, 14s or 28s? i keep thinking to my self for my application 10s because 10 modules, but thats acutally 20s. 2016-08-13T10:08:24 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T10:11:29 < dongs> 14S, 7 modules 2016-08-13T10:12:58 < PeterM> nice, nice 2016-08-13T10:14:58 < dongs> hmm looking at this chink BMS trash 2016-08-13T10:15:01 < dongs> i dont think it actually balances 2016-08-13T10:15:10 < dongs> it just has a bunch of CD2054 or wahtever 8x analog multiplexers 2016-08-13T10:15:13 < dongs> i dont see any fets or anythign 2016-08-13T10:15:49 < dongs> CD4052 2016-08-13T10:19:25 < PeterM> for my 20s pack im just going to do balancing super lazy 2016-08-13T10:20:04 < dongs> eh 2016-08-13T10:20:21 < dongs> i suppose if I can see it its ok, but 2016-08-13T10:20:28 < dongs> really, i dont think this t hing balances 2016-08-13T10:21:01 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ekWwSAq.jpg wat do you think 2016-08-13T10:21:53 < PeterM> nah jsut monitors 2016-08-13T10:22:12 < dongs> well cocks 2016-08-13T10:22:46 < PeterM> i odnt hink you'll need to balance often, like every 50 charges or something 2016-08-13T10:22:59 < dongs> and then what do i do? 2016-08-13T10:23:53 < PeterM> i dunno, if i have any spares left over when i put together my 20s balancer i'll do one for you 2016-08-13T10:24:08 < dongs> also how do I charge this trash in generael? 2016-08-13T10:24:11 < dongs> like 2016-08-13T10:24:19 < dongs> do i buy a hobbyking 60V charger or wat 2016-08-13T10:25:31 < PeterM> something like that, you jsut stick a 58.8v cc/cv pwoer supply on it 2016-08-13T10:25:51 < dongs> oh. i got exactly that. 2016-08-13T10:25:59 < dongs> it weighs like 300kg tho 2016-08-13T10:26:13 < dongs> 60V/30A 2016-08-13T10:26:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-97ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T10:26:44 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-133-218.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T10:27:13 < PeterM> chinagirl should be able to get you a 2a smps one or something 2016-08-13T10:27:25 < PeterM> jsut leave it plugged in for a day 2016-08-13T10:27:45 < dongs> i can just use the SLA trash right? 2016-08-13T10:28:08 < PeterM> i probably wouldnt 2016-08-13T10:28:25 < PeterM> some of those have stupid high ovpen circuit voltage 2016-08-13T10:28:46 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-45-224.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-13T10:31:00 < PeterM> http://bit.ly/2b5aY3K 2016-08-13T10:33:01 < dongs> oh not bad 2016-08-13T10:34:18 < PeterM> yeah, just chop the plug off and put soemthing mroe sane on it 2016-08-13T10:36:28 < dongs> hm i have the cells connected 1- 1bal 1+ how do i go to next pack 2016-08-13T10:36:33 < dongs> 2 bal, 2-? 2016-08-13T10:36:42 < dongs> er, 2bal, 2+ 2016-08-13T10:36:46 < dongs> pic time 2016-08-13T10:37:43 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/DMxx6TN.jpg 2016-08-13T10:38:27 < dongs> i have it from top right, center, left, where's the next tap? 2016-08-13T10:38:36 < dongs> next down center, right? 2016-08-13T10:40:59 < dongs> yep cuz voltage there is ~11 2016-08-13T10:41:33 < PeterM> http://imgur.com/a/7mPPm 2016-08-13T10:41:53 < dongs> ya 2016-08-13T10:42:08 < dongs> figured voltage should go up by one cell 2016-08-13T10:42:11 < dongs> in each next tap 2016-08-13T10:44:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.158] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T10:45:21 < PeterM> ya 2016-08-13T10:46:13 -!- Steffann [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rogoenwvtarvkutl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T10:46:30 -!- Steffann is now known as Guest19733 2016-08-13T10:46:49 -!- Guest19733 is now known as Steffannn 2016-08-13T11:03:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T11:03:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-13T11:03:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T11:03:40 < dongs> WTF 2016-08-13T11:05:43 < ReadError> kakimir making demands? 2016-08-13T11:13:34 < dongs> hmm 2016-08-13T11:13:36 < dongs> wtf 2016-08-13T11:13:44 < dongs> when i connect 2nd cable it gets warm 2016-08-13T11:13:53 < dongs> the 8..16 tap 2016-08-13T11:15:19 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-13T11:16:09 < PeterM> the cable or the board? 2016-08-13T11:17:15 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-13T11:18:07 < dongs> cable 2016-08-13T11:18:15 < dongs> series is correct 2016-08-13T11:18:27 < dongs> +4V on each next tap 2016-08-13T11:18:46 < dongs> chinatrash is DOA? lol 2016-08-13T11:19:00 < PeterM> i dunno, hook 58v from your bench posu to it and see? 2016-08-13T11:19:27 < dongs> see what? 2016-08-13T11:20:09 < dongs> onlty the 8..16 tap is drawing lots of ucrrent 2016-08-13T11:20:13 < dongs> 1..8 is ok 2016-08-13T11:20:15 < dongs> er 9..16 2016-08-13T11:20:46 < PeterM> if oyu hook up the display portion does it work? and if it works, does it say what the votlages or or antyhing? 2016-08-13T11:21:02 < dongs> ya it works if i have 8 cells 2016-08-13T11:22:18 < dongs> hm 2016-08-13T11:22:21 < dongs> if i connect both it says 13 cell 2016-08-13T11:22:24 < dongs> not 14 2016-08-13T11:23:29 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/zpXNvXG.png 2016-08-13T11:23:32 < dongs> this is how i have it hooked up 2016-08-13T11:23:57 < ReadError> record breaking osh times, ordered monday come today 2016-08-13T11:24:03 < dongs> is that correct? 2016-08-13T11:24:04 < dongs> hmm 2016-08-13T11:24:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-13T11:24:12 < dongs> why is there extra negative 2016-08-13T11:24:23 < dongs> i have to hookup center of cell8/9 to same pin isnt it 2016-08-13T11:24:32 < ReadError> dongs checked the pinout? 2016-08-13T11:24:41 < ReadError> some chinks use a diff balance pinout 2016-08-13T11:26:03 < dongs> whats with that fucking split 2016-08-13T11:27:12 < PeterM> ahh yeah 2016-08-13T11:27:20 < PeterM> thats annoying 2016-08-13T11:27:44 < dongs> how the fuck do i work that? 2016-08-13T11:27:54 < dongs> 8/9 bridge connects to both pads? 2016-08-13T11:29:32 < PeterM> yeah and move all the connectors on the second one over 1 position i guess 2016-08-13T11:30:11 < dongs> yeah. 2016-08-13T11:30:14 < dongs> they're shorted 2016-08-13T11:30:17 < dongs> on the board 2016-08-13T11:30:34 < dongs> right most pin of 2nd socket and leftmost pin of 1st socket 2016-08-13T11:30:58 < dongs> i will just nc that shit 2016-08-13T11:32:17 < PeterM> nowonder your leads were getting "warm" 2016-08-13T11:33:00 < ReadError> invoice in the mail 2016-08-13T11:34:19 < ReadError> so whats blogging today 2016-08-13T11:34:55 < ReadError> pool alloc free read write read write 2016-08-13T11:34:55 < ReadError> ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 2016-08-13T11:34:56 < ReadError> freenas-boot 634M 19.3G 1 0 10.2K 2.10K 2016-08-13T11:34:56 < ReadError> zpool1 921G 17.2T 0 178 3.50K 7.24M 2016-08-13T11:34:56 < ReadError> zpool2 1.58T 7.49T 1 1.03K 4.53K 12.0M 2016-08-13T11:34:56 < ReadError> ---------- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 2016-08-13T11:35:25 < ReadError> moving files around, got 2 drives that are about dead, blzing at 12MB/s 2016-08-13T11:37:23 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-13T11:37:37 < dongs> nice 2016-08-13T11:37:38 < dongs> works 2016-08-13T11:39:40 < dongs> so how do i charge this 2016-08-13T11:39:46 < dongs> 58.8V/.2A or something CV/CC? 2016-08-13T11:40:17 < PeterM> for a 60ah pack 0.2a will take a while bro. 2016-08-13T11:40:42 < dongs> i meant 2a 2016-08-13T11:40:57 < Steffanx> Z2 readerror? 2016-08-13T11:41:23 < ReadError> Steffanx ya 2016-08-13T11:41:48 < ReadError> 3*5disk with 1 hotspare 2016-08-13T11:42:30 < ReadError> i need to machine some disk mounts for the internal disk 2016-08-13T11:42:41 < ReadError> disks 2016-08-13T11:42:58 < dongs> ... dat spark 2016-08-13T11:43:37 < PeterM> yeah, 2a over a day will charge it fine, though i'd still stick it on a hardware outlet timer, set to like 20 hours jsut incase kinda thing 2016-08-13T11:43:48 < Steffanx> Or ebay? 2016-08-13T11:44:23 < ReadError> Steffanx they dont exist for what I want 2016-08-13T11:44:25 < PeterM> *hardware store outlet timer 2016-08-13T11:44:41 < ReadError> there are provisions to mount 2 disk inside by the mobo 2016-08-13T11:44:48 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T11:44:48 < ReadError> but i want 4 + some ssd 2016-08-13T11:45:05 < Steffanx> Ah ok 2016-08-13T11:45:15 < ReadError> aint i aint no basic bitch thats gonna leave stuff just loose ;p 2016-08-13T11:46:22 < ReadError> this one disk is so bad it kind of squeaks like a lil mouse 2016-08-13T11:47:08 < PeterM> surely you could jsut get a shet of alu, cut two strips and drill approrptiate holes 2016-08-13T11:48:17 < ReadError> yea, my CNCs been offline for 1.5months tho, finally rebuilt the box 2016-08-13T11:48:26 < ReadError> so I kinda want to make chips too 2016-08-13T11:48:43 < dongs> http://imgur.com/gallery/YGC1A PeterM 2016-08-13T11:49:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.158] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-13T11:50:51 < ReadError> in another nonfunny blogs, ordered a delta disc sander, came fucked up, fan shroud got bent 2016-08-13T11:50:54 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1prHYPDi/IMG_1449.JPG 2016-08-13T11:51:02 < ReadError> they offered me 130$ refund 2016-08-13T11:51:28 < ReadError> so that was cool, few good whacks should show it whats up 2016-08-13T12:01:01 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-13T12:01:21 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T12:03:51 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T12:03:51 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-13T12:03:51 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T12:05:32 < Steffanx> Lol. The know dongs well. Nice vaping comments :D 2016-08-13T12:07:57 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T12:09:22 < PeterM> dongs, lookin good 2016-08-13T12:11:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-97ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-13T12:11:53 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T12:13:41 < PeterM> 0.01v between cells is pretty decently balanced - it would be hard to balance them closer than that without spending real $ bewcause thats already 0.25% 2016-08-13T12:15:23 < OneSploit_> Anyone can recommend replacement for NZ2520SB 25M that is possible to get via digikey ? 2016-08-13T12:15:32 < OneSploit_> I need 25M oscillator 2016-08-13T12:27:02 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-13T12:32:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T12:36:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.153] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T13:04:02 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/nBPB3Gm.gif 2016-08-13T13:04:30 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-13T13:26:33 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T13:36:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T13:42:24 < ReadError> . . . 2016-08-13T13:43:15 < ReadError> due to lack of chats I need to do drugs 2016-08-13T13:43:25 < ReadError> I hope you all feel guilty 2016-08-13T13:49:41 < Tectu> lulz 2016-08-13T13:49:44 < Tectu> better join #ugfx then 2016-08-13T13:50:25 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T13:50:51 < ReadError> i need a new job 2016-08-13T13:50:53 < ReadError> im so bored 2016-08-13T13:51:56 < Tectu> better join #ugfx then :p 2016-08-13T13:52:08 < Tectu> what kind of job are you interested in? I have certain connections 2016-08-13T13:53:14 < ReadError> ehh 2016-08-13T13:53:21 < ReadError> maybe just being some rich ladys play thing 2016-08-13T13:53:35 < ReadError> and professional / competitive blogging 2016-08-13T13:59:04 < Steffanx> Why you need a new job on saturday ReadError? 2016-08-13T13:59:20 < ReadError> i dont need it today 2016-08-13T13:59:27 < ReadError> just whenever 2016-08-13T13:59:38 < Steffanx> im just curious what you do. 2016-08-13T13:59:41 < Steffanx> *still 2016-08-13T13:59:41 < ReadError> i mean the job and $$ is good 2016-08-13T13:59:47 < ReadError> but i get bored 2016-08-13T14:00:01 < ReadError> i do lunix/vmware/storage trash 2016-08-13T14:00:08 < Steffanx> ay. 2016-08-13T14:01:50 < ReadError> its nice since i can kinda fuck around and do w/e 2016-08-13T14:02:22 < ReadError> but it doenst force me to do anything new/challenge 2016-08-13T14:05:59 < Tectu> > competitive blogging 2016-08-13T14:06:00 < Tectu> wtf :D 2016-08-13T14:06:23 < Tectu> so you're a sysadmin? 2016-08-13T14:06:48 < ReadError> I dont like pronouns 2016-08-13T14:06:58 < ReadError> it boxes me in, I cant be the true me 2016-08-13T14:20:49 < Tectu> so you doing drugs already, eh? 2016-08-13T14:22:49 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T14:23:08 < ReadError> its organic 2016-08-13T14:23:43 < Tectu> how does that make it any better? 2016-08-13T14:24:05 < Laurenceb__> cuz magic and fairies 2016-08-13T14:25:57 < BrainDamage> https://i.imgur.com/23ZVfia.jpg 2016-08-13T14:27:00 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c6HsiixFS8 2016-08-13T14:28:59 < PeterM> ReadError, who do you use for assembling your clonegear? 2016-08-13T14:30:19 < Laurenceb__> http://www.blackgirldangerous.org/2014/09/reclaiming-sacred-black-indigenous-qtpoc-science-sustainable-living-survivor-ship-magic/ 2016-08-13T14:30:39 < ReadError> blackgirldangerous ? 2016-08-13T14:30:40 < Tectu> stop posting crap here, Laurenceb__ 2016-08-13T14:30:45 < ReadError> is that like whitegirlwasted ? 2016-08-13T14:30:52 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-13T14:31:16 < Laurenceb__> its yet another "not sure if troll" site 2016-08-13T14:33:53 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ kakimir already said hes not going to put up with your shit 2016-08-13T14:34:07 < ReadError> better skate like a ballerina 2016-08-13T14:34:26 < Laurenceb__> sounds a little homo 2016-08-13T14:35:05 < ReadError> you know, I dont much care for that tone, sir. 2016-08-13T14:37:22 < Tectu> Hi Mr. crt. How are you today? 2016-08-13T14:39:20 < Laurenceb__> prob eats his tendies 2016-08-13T14:40:07 < Tectu> I am very glad to hear that, Mr. crt. 2016-08-13T14:40:49 < Tectu> cuz it's sunday, probably. 2016-08-13T14:42:28 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rogoenwvtarvkutl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-13T14:42:29 < Steffanx> isn't that what self-employed to all the time? 2016-08-13T14:43:30 < Steffanx> *do 2016-08-13T14:43:59 < Steffanx> been good probably, behaved well.. no 2016-08-13T14:44:49 < Laurenceb__> I'm gunna get b& & v& 2016-08-13T14:47:29 < Laurenceb__> wrong spelling 2016-08-13T14:47:54 < Tectu> lawrence is us version, right? 2016-08-13T14:48:44 < Tectu> lawrence still draws better than I do 2016-08-13T14:53:29 < Laurenceb__> Tectu revealed to be Chris-chan 2016-08-13T14:54:02 < Tectu> Better accept jesus as your lord and savior 2016-08-13T15:05:06 <@kakimir> lawrence is the actress rite? 2016-08-13T15:07:03 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T15:08:11 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/AG66NsI.jpg made the pack a bit safer 2016-08-13T15:09:12 < PeterM> noice! 2016-08-13T15:09:16 <@kakimir> what are those cells? 2016-08-13T15:13:33 <@kakimir> I doubt it 2016-08-13T15:13:54 <@kakimir> crt: it didn't have all the plastic pieces 2016-08-13T15:14:01 < dongs> crt: http://i.imgur.com/TlbkivP.jpg this 2016-08-13T15:14:51 < dongs> fucking welded 2016-08-13T15:14:55 < dongs> the sparks were epic 2016-08-13T15:16:39 <@kakimir> ruined your brand pocket pliers? 2016-08-13T15:20:16 < ReadError> https://photos.smugmug.com/Private/n-k3BGh/i-jSHgSdh/0/X3/i-jSHgSdh-X3.jpg 2016-08-13T15:20:28 < ReadError> shit done got SHRANK 2016-08-13T15:23:58 <@kakimir> always do one wire at the time. problem with it? 2016-08-13T15:26:48 <@kakimir> cut strip solder cover repeat 2016-08-13T15:27:24 < ReadError> it was like the 5th one i did that night 2016-08-13T15:27:28 < ReadError> cutting all the others 1 by 1 2016-08-13T15:27:40 < ReadError> wasnt thinking 2016-08-13T15:28:19 < Laurenceb__> dongs is back 2016-08-13T15:28:22 < Laurenceb__> wb dongs 2016-08-13T15:31:16 <@kakimir> dongs: what is that batteria for? 2016-08-13T15:32:33 < PeterM> kakimir, do you know how to imgur? 2016-08-13T15:33:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T15:37:17 < Tectu> yes he knows, and he tries to avoid it as explained recently 2016-08-13T15:37:20 < Tectu> like yesterday-ish 2016-08-13T15:37:26 < Tectu> or two days ago-ish 2016-08-13T15:37:37 < Tectu> hey dongs, where have you been? 2016-08-13T15:37:43 <@kakimir> I see only photos not what it's 2016-08-13T15:37:46 <@kakimir> about 2016-08-13T15:38:19 <@kakimir> http://imgur.com/gallery/FG7Q86F your OC ? 2016-08-13T15:38:29 <@kakimir> dongle 2016-08-13T15:42:18 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-13T16:09:00 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T16:11:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T16:12:09 < dongs> kakimir: yes thats me 2016-08-13T16:12:26 <@kakimir> what happend? 2016-08-13T16:13:09 < dongs> i think the frtont wheel fell off 2016-08-13T16:14:18 < Rob235> he's alive 2016-08-13T16:14:20 <@kakimir> you rode it? 2016-08-13T16:19:11 < dongs> wait why the fuck does kikemir have ops 2016-08-13T16:23:07 <@kakimir> to rule 2016-08-13T16:24:18 < dongs> oh ok 2016-08-13T16:24:31 < Rob235> two milestones yesterday, my drone got a cm in the air and I broke my first prop doing so :) 2016-08-13T16:25:51 < dongs> PeterM: so yours is gonna be 20S (10 packs)? 2016-08-13T16:26:11 < dongs> what are you gonna run off that 2016-08-13T16:26:32 < Rob235> dongs: what is yours for? 2016-08-13T16:27:47 < dongs> fourwheeler 2016-08-13T16:28:33 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-13T16:28:34 < ReadError> I would like to run for #ops of ##stm32 2016-08-13T16:28:39 < ReadError> lets make #irc great again 2016-08-13T16:28:59 < dongs> might as well op ohsix 2016-08-13T16:29:03 < dongs> if dumb cloners get ops 2016-08-13T16:29:19 < dongs> did you see ohsix noped out of the other channel 2016-08-13T16:29:24 < dongs> as soon as I caught him stoning 2016-08-13T16:29:35 <@kakimir> dongs: what are the specs for your pack? 2016-08-13T16:30:03 < ReadError> dongs no lol 2016-08-13T16:30:20 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T16:32:32 < dongs> heh, leaf packs in japan are super not popular 2016-08-13T16:32:32 < dongs> http://page3.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/c564431297 2016-08-13T16:32:37 < dongs> this guy is getting rid of 4 of them for <$150 2016-08-13T16:32:56 < dongs> i guess tehy dont realize the awesomeness 2016-08-13T16:38:00 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T16:39:17 < PeterM> i saw that, i was like "could be neat" but then i realized it would be jsut as much of a pain in the ass to get them as it would be for an entire pack 2016-08-13T16:40:02 < dongs> he has "32' in stock 2016-08-13T16:40:17 < dongs> i guess he bought the pack and parted it out and tryin to sell 2016-08-13T16:41:34 < PeterM> im gonna stick 20s(10 packs) into a ebike, but not an ebike in hte sense of a idle around town ebike... 2016-08-13T16:43:57 < Laurenceb__> wb dongs 2016-08-13T16:44:08 < Laurenceb__> can anyone link me gif, cant load in failfox 2016-08-13T16:44:18 < Steffanx> Laurenceb__ he is not going to admit he was ever gone :P 2016-08-13T16:44:29 < PeterM> something like a supermotard 2016-08-13T16:45:00 <@kakimir> when do you want to use litium pack instead of lead batteries in ups? 2016-08-13T16:46:42 < PeterM> kakimir, depth of discharge and cycle life 2016-08-13T16:46:51 < dongs> PeterM: that ebike sounds like its gonna have a sidecar 2016-08-13T16:46:59 < ReadError> dongs what presentation was the best? 2016-08-13T16:46:59 < dongs> just for the batts 2016-08-13T16:48:06 <@kakimir> POSTIKULUT: 2016-08-13T16:48:15 < dongs> so i wonder what I need to do to hook the 24pack into the grid 2016-08-13T16:48:25 < dongs> charge off solar / power house at night 2016-08-13T16:48:47 < dongs> preferably wihtout killing myself and hopefully using a STM32 2016-08-13T16:49:14 < dongs> i think if I shorted the 200V/24pack i'd get a bit more molten metal than from a single cell 2016-08-13T16:49:46 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T16:51:30 < PeterM> it probably wont take much, if yo udont care if its square vs sine, you could jsut stick a 50hz hbridge on the pack and tie one side to neutral/earth 2016-08-13T16:51:47 < dongs> lol. nah, i mean, properway. 2016-08-13T16:51:53 < dongs> i dont really wana burn my place down 2016-08-13T16:52:30 < ReadError> did they gas chamber your pokemans dongs ? 2016-08-13T16:52:34 < ReadError> heard there was a ban hammer 2016-08-13T16:53:17 < Tectu> the fuck are you doing / talking about ReadError 2016-08-13T16:53:20 < Tectu> stfu man 2016-08-13T16:53:31 < PeterM> propper way would be a bit of a mess 2016-08-13T16:53:51 < PeterM> most "propper way" systems arent designed to have th epack at 200v lol 2016-08-13T16:53:59 < ReadError> PeterM my KawaiiChargers come today!! 2016-08-13T16:54:05 < dongs> PeterM: what do they want it at then 2016-08-13T16:54:11 < dongs> how about 400? 2016-08-13T16:55:27 < PeterM> 48v is pretty common, then they use a fullbridge to go 48>334vdc (or there abouts), then another hbridge with a filter to get your 50/60hz sine 2016-08-13T16:55:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.114] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T16:56:03 -!- Chris_M|2 is now known as Chris_M 2016-08-13T16:56:07 < PeterM> just because most shit is designed to run on pbso4 2016-08-13T16:56:30 < Tectu> ReadError, got any pics to show it in action? 2016-08-13T16:56:45 < ReadError> Tectu nah but ill get some moneyshots 2016-08-13T16:57:18 < ReadError> i should charge my real camera battery i need to picture some other things too 2016-08-13T16:57:32 < Steffanx> yes 2016-08-13T16:57:43 < Tectu> my camera just has a built-in micro-usb port for charging 2016-08-13T16:58:10 < PeterM> i bodged in a charger for my cameras battery too. 2016-08-13T16:58:38 < Tectu> scummos, ping 2016-08-13T16:58:38 < PeterM> newer cameras come with it tho 2016-08-13T16:58:44 < ReadError> i dont have a nice camera, but the lense is nice 2016-08-13T16:58:50 < Tectu> PeterM, got pics of the bodge? 2016-08-13T16:59:04 < PeterM> for most shits i use a canon s95, it cost liek $150 2016-08-13T16:59:31 < ReadError> heh i have some canon PnS I got for dirt cheap 2016-08-13T16:59:32 < PeterM> tectu nah, it was pretty easy though jsut some magnet wire and a lt4056 2016-08-13T16:59:36 < ReadError> supported chdk 2016-08-13T17:00:02 < dongs> http://www.dezeen.com/2016/05/12/vehicle-to-grid-v2g-trial-nissan-battery-system-for-the-home/ 2016-08-13T17:00:05 < dongs> lolwat 2016-08-13T17:00:13 < ReadError> S100 2016-08-13T17:00:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-13T17:00:40 < Tectu> I expected fancy cams to have some sort of battery charge protection 2016-08-13T17:00:47 < Tectu> with like i2c stuff to exchange keys and crap 2016-08-13T17:00:49 < dongs> The new xStorage energy storage system — which features 12 LEAF battery modules — was revealed by Nissan at a recent event in East London. It’s reportedly being produced in partnership with the power management firm Eaton 2016-08-13T17:00:50 < Tectu> so you can't use 3rd party hard 2016-08-13T17:00:54 < PeterM> iirc the s100 wasnt as godo as the s95 because they made the apeture worse 2016-08-13T17:01:04 < Tectu> crt, landfill 2016-08-13T17:01:10 < dongs> crt: burn it 2016-08-13T17:01:24 < dongs> or drill through it 2016-08-13T17:01:25 <@kakimir> do flywheels have futures? 2016-08-13T17:01:39 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-13T17:02:00 <@kakimir> I think it's better for mains controlled power 2016-08-13T17:02:07 <@kakimir> because cycles 2016-08-13T17:02:48 < Laurenceb__> is the discussion flywheel energy sto-RAGE ? 2016-08-13T17:03:08 <@kakimir> yes.. rage flywheels 2016-08-13T17:03:09 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T17:03:23 < ReadError> PeterM I got the s100 for a specific reason too 2016-08-13T17:03:25 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T17:03:25 < ReadError> https://publiclab.org/wiki/near-infrared-camera 2016-08-13T17:03:40 < ReadError> chdk + known good w/ the NIR 2016-08-13T17:03:49 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: I dont get the attraction 2016-08-13T17:03:51 < ReadError> plus it was like 50 bux 2016-08-13T17:04:30 < Laurenceb__> even supercaps are approaching the energy desnity of flywheels now 2016-08-13T17:04:32 < Rob235> http://mashable.com/2016/08/11/ip-addresses-kansas/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#4shybGCbaOq3 2016-08-13T17:04:42 < ReadError> wouldnt feel too bad destroying it in a crash 2016-08-13T17:04:43 < dongs> cool facebook retweet bro 2016-08-13T17:04:45 <@kakimir> Laurenceb__: how about lifetime costs? 2016-08-13T17:05:06 < Laurenceb__> I dunno lol 2016-08-13T17:05:20 < Laurenceb__> not an expert, but flow batteries are probably the future 2016-08-13T17:05:35 < PeterM> ReadError, yeah they were very nice cameras, not as good as s95 2016-08-13T17:05:36 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T17:05:45 < Laurenceb__> maybe compressed air energy storage in disused gas resevoirs, but the energy density is lwo 2016-08-13T17:06:04 < PeterM> i see people wiht $400 kodak shitty P&S superzooms and am liek WTF why 2016-08-13T17:06:09 < ReadError> I need to quit stoning and do the conversion one day 2016-08-13T17:06:17 < ReadError> I have 2 cameras chillin for it 2016-08-13T17:06:28 < dongs> PeterM: one leaf car pack is 24kWh right? the old ones 2016-08-13T17:06:44 < Laurenceb__> wtf uk is third in olymprics 2016-08-13T17:06:56 < Laurenceb__> why do people bother with this shit so much 2016-08-13T17:07:17 < Laurenceb__> maybe nobody else gives as shit other than UK :P 2016-08-13T17:07:25 < ReadError> trim 2016-08-13T17:07:50 < dongs> k it is 2016-08-13T17:08:00 <@kakimir> does it even make sense to do high power - low energy flywheel? 2016-08-13T17:08:10 < ReadError> wow japan is #4? 2016-08-13T17:08:21 < ReadError> is pingpong and all their sports over? 2016-08-13T17:08:29 < dongs> there's golf right 2016-08-13T17:08:31 < PeterM> dongs yeah, but they're down to about 18-20kw when you buy em 2ndhand 2016-08-13T17:08:44 <@kakimir> in case of vehicle use or such with limited energy 2016-08-13T17:08:45 < dongs> well, still way better than that article 2016-08-13T17:08:49 < PeterM> yeah 2016-08-13T17:08:50 <@kakimir> and lot of cycling 2016-08-13T17:08:53 < dongs> 4kWh for 4k eur??? 2016-08-13T17:08:54 < PeterM> shedloads better 2016-08-13T17:08:54 < dongs> the fuck 2016-08-13T17:12:16 < dongs> http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?t=17879 2016-08-13T17:12:19 < dongs> this guy knows what hes doing 2016-08-13T17:13:58 < dongs> heh, he has some of them in parallel 2016-08-13T17:15:29 <@kakimir> only some of them? 2016-08-13T17:15:58 < dongs> looks like 7S6P 2016-08-13T17:16:32 < dongs> PeterM: what do you think 2016-08-13T17:17:54 < englishman> hmm i thought leaf batts were really bad 2016-08-13T17:18:01 < englishman> but i guess they can live on in the very low discharge world 2016-08-13T17:18:52 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/TlbkivP.jpg what low discharge? 2016-08-13T17:19:10 < englishman> yeah 2016-08-13T17:19:52 < englishman> for like <1 second right 2016-08-13T17:19:56 < englishman> not 3-4h of driving 2016-08-13T17:20:38 < dongs> donno, the busbar got pretty hot 2016-08-13T17:20:43 < englishman> nice trollcomments in imgur btw 2016-08-13T17:20:47 < dongs> lole 2016-08-13T17:21:01 < dongs> yeah i started posting that shit to public 2016-08-13T17:21:05 < dongs> there's always people hating 2016-08-13T17:21:36 < englishman> imgur is just 9gag, when it comes to community 2016-08-13T17:21:45 < Steffanx> there's always people hating :D 2016-08-13T17:21:52 < englishman> speaking of haters 2016-08-13T17:21:58 < englishman> here come the stroophoarder 2016-08-13T17:22:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-13T17:22:18 < Steffanx> love you too englishman 2016-08-13T17:22:47 < englishman> dongs, were you giving the dildo talk at defcon, or were you on the receiving end 2016-08-13T17:23:16 < PeterM> englishman, they're rated to only 10c 2016-08-13T17:23:25 < PeterM> >only 10c 2016-08-13T17:23:35 < dongs> 10c@20Ah/cell right? 2016-08-13T17:23:48 < dongs> still enough to do some spotwelding 2016-08-13T17:23:54 < PeterM> no, 10c/60ah module 2016-08-13T17:23:59 < dongs> lole 2016-08-13T17:24:13 < PeterM> also, 10C for 3-4hours driving hurr durr 2016-08-13T17:24:20 < PeterM> yeah right fuck off 2016-08-13T17:24:29 < dongs> doesnt t he shit spark 2016-08-13T17:24:33 < dongs> when he connects them in parallel? 2016-08-13T17:24:37 < PeterM> how are you goign to drive for 3-4 hours if your battery is flat in 6 minutes 2016-08-13T17:24:51 < dongs> https://postimg.org/image/63bahlwub/ 2016-08-13T17:25:15 < PeterM> you get them pretty close in votlage before you connect them up 2016-08-13T17:25:37 < dongs> and that setup means no real individual balancing either eh 2016-08-13T17:25:49 < dongs> since he only taps balance from each 6P pack heh 2016-08-13T17:25:51 < PeterM> and even though hte current is high for a moment, the votlage is so low it cannot create an arc 2016-08-13T17:26:10 < PeterM> yeah 2016-08-13T17:26:31 < PeterM> but also, with that many cells in parallel you get a statistically fairly balanced pack anyway 2016-08-13T17:26:47 < PeterM> if there is 6 moduels in aparaleell thats 12 cells in parallel 2016-08-13T17:27:05 < PeterM> 12 cells on average you're gonna have soem good and some bad 2016-08-13T17:27:12 < PeterM> shits gonna stay balanced fairly well 2016-08-13T17:27:41 < PeterM> BUT 2016-08-13T17:27:53 < PeterM> if i were to do that shit 2016-08-13T17:28:22 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-13T17:29:10 < PeterM> i'd do what i said, have the batts run at dc bus voltage, like 155/334v (for 110/240v), have them somewhat tied directly to the output 2016-08-13T17:29:27 < PeterM> and isolate the charger from the batts 2016-08-13T17:29:54 < PeterM> your charge efficiency is lower, but your discharge efficiency is near 100% 2016-08-13T17:30:02 < englishman> only 10c, pretty sure a car would draw <0.5c tho 2016-08-13T17:30:27 < PeterM> the leafs motor is rated for something liek 60kw 2016-08-13T17:30:29 < dongs> PeterM: what is "somewhat tied directly" 2016-08-13T17:31:23 < PeterM> dongs batts >hbridge that pwms a 50/60hz sine>filter >one side tied to neutral/earth, one side tied to phase 2016-08-13T17:31:37 < dongs> yeah but man that sounds unsafe as fuck 2016-08-13T17:31:54 < englishman> hmm so like 1.5c peak 2016-08-13T17:32:08 < PeterM> ?? 2016-08-13T17:32:15 < PeterM> closer to 2.5c 2016-08-13T17:32:29 < dongs> PeterM: we're talking about like, kW rated electronics here right 2016-08-13T17:32:34 < PeterM> yes 2016-08-13T17:32:37 < englishman> 60kW seems like a lot 2016-08-13T17:32:37 < dongs> i dont wanna just power my fridge or somethign 2016-08-13T17:32:42 < PeterM> yes 2016-08-13T17:32:53 < PeterM> thats why you want as high efficiencies 2016-08-13T17:33:07 < englishman> hm new ones are 80kW 2016-08-13T17:33:11 < PeterM> do you want to build a 48v ->400v bunch of dc-dc converters? 2016-08-13T17:33:14 < englishman> that would be a fun motorcycle 2016-08-13T17:33:21 < PeterM> that do like 20kw? 2016-08-13T17:34:24 < dongs> PeterM: i don't mind doing the parallel thing like that blogger if its not too awful 2016-08-13T17:34:37 < dongs> i wonder if there's some jappu thing that does 100VAC 2016-08-13T17:34:39 < PeterM> im gonna say building a charger that goes whatever ->400v at only a handful of amps is gonna be much much easier than from 48v> 400v at like 1000a 2016-08-13T17:34:59 < englishman> dongs, why do you even want home energy storage, can't you sell whatever to the grid, far more profitable 2016-08-13T17:35:35 < PeterM> sure but if you're building a power supply for your house, wouldnt you want to use somethign that doesn't require all your appliances to be "spechul" 2016-08-13T17:35:46 < englishman> i'm happy our grid allows it, that way we dont need to invest $$$ in shitty lipo energy storage, the space and cabling and certification involved 2016-08-13T17:36:27 < englishman> not to mention the inverter to drive our peak ~30kW @220V power draw 2016-08-13T17:36:37 < PeterM> imean 48v @100A is only 4.8kw 2016-08-13T17:36:42 < dongs> lol 30kW 2016-08-13T17:36:50 < dongs> my jappuhouse is nowhere near that 2016-08-13T17:36:52 < englishman> 23kW furnace 2016-08-13T17:37:22 < englishman> but yeah, why bother with battery? 2016-08-13T17:37:27 < dongs> i think the breakers are 100A 2016-08-13T17:37:35 < englishman> especially if your grid pays you more than it costs you to buy 2016-08-13T17:37:37 < PeterM> i think here is standard every house gets 100a @240v 2016-08-13T17:37:42 < englishman> then you'd just be throwing away money 2016-08-13T17:38:16 < jpa-> englishman: here 70% of electricity price is transport 2016-08-13T17:38:19 < englishman> its 200A here, due to electric heating 2016-08-13T17:38:33 < jpa-> so it costs 3x as much to pay compared to what you get when you sell 2016-08-13T17:38:45 < PeterM> crt gonna grow pot, jsut bypass the breaker and meter fuck it 2016-08-13T17:38:59 < englishman> jpa- that last one is not true everywhere 2016-08-13T17:39:10 < englishman> here if i were to sell, it would be at the same rate that i buy 2016-08-13T17:39:18 < jpa-> who pays for transport there? 2016-08-13T17:39:19 < englishman> some placed pay even more for renewable energy 2016-08-13T17:39:31 < englishman> single govt entity does production and delivery 2016-08-13T17:39:32 < PeterM> 11kv BOYZ 2016-08-13T17:39:54 < jpa-> why do they pay you so much for the electricity, if it costs them less to produce it themselves? 2016-08-13T17:40:00 < PeterM> well depends on where you are 2016-08-13T17:40:09 < PeterM> some are 11, some are 22 and soem are 33 2016-08-13T17:40:17 < englishman> because the production of renewable energy by homes is small and insignificant 2016-08-13T17:40:25 < PeterM> but i doubt down a residential street ists gonna be 11kv 2016-08-13T17:40:31 < jpa-> ah, so free money from government? 2016-08-13T17:40:33 < englishman> it's limited to 50kW max per home, renewable only 2016-08-13T17:40:36 < englishman> jpa-: not really 2016-08-13T17:40:39 < englishman> it's in credits 2016-08-13T17:40:48 < englishman> as it's assumed you'll still produce less than you use 2016-08-13T17:40:51 < PeterM> its not *real* money 2016-08-13T17:41:06 < PeterM> you cant go down to the shops and buy groceries with it 2016-08-13T17:41:09 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T17:42:02 < Laurenceb__> ppl talking bout weed farming? 2016-08-13T17:42:16 < Laurenceb__> its all the rage here in UK, someone even tried to sell weed to my mum lol 2016-08-13T17:42:48 < englishman> jpa-: heres from the utility, Dec 18 - Feb 19, 2016 7,690kWh 2016-08-13T17:42:58 < PeterM> but dongs, it isn't really that unsafe, i mean, your batts are only as live as the wires in your wall, jsut remember to not touch them :P 2016-08-13T17:43:00 < englishman> or 120kWh/day 2016-08-13T17:43:03 < englishman> thats a lot to produce 2016-08-13T17:43:08 < Laurenceb__> I usually meet three or four guys trying to sell me weed on way to work 2016-08-13T17:43:14 < englishman> and we even turned off the hot tub in winter to save power 2016-08-13T17:43:24 < englishman> so thats a lot for a home to produce 2016-08-13T17:43:25 < PeterM> dec18 feb19 thats winter though 2016-08-13T17:43:28 < englishman> yeah 2016-08-13T17:43:37 < Laurenceb__> both my neighbours have converted their attic 2016-08-13T17:43:41 < dongs> PeterM: yeah but where do I get these electronics for liek 5kW charge/discharge 2016-08-13T17:43:51 < englishman> we can generate more than we use in summer, but who is going to store that til winter 2016-08-13T17:43:59 < englishman> the grid is a bigger battery 2016-08-13T17:44:05 < jpa-> that's a lot for a home to spend also 2016-08-13T17:44:15 < Laurenceb__> gardens full of spare growing kit lol 2016-08-13T17:44:54 < englishman> yes and no jpa- we also have some of the cheapest electricity 2016-08-13T17:45:12 < englishman> and it's helped the push to stop burning wood for heat 2016-08-13T17:45:25 < englishman> and the push for electric cars 2016-08-13T17:46:43 < dongs> that norway forumer house is idling at 500W 2016-08-13T17:46:45 < dongs> what the fuck 2016-08-13T17:46:52 < englishman> anyway i don't know what dongs plan is or why he wants to store energy, but if hes going to be generating renewables i dono why he wouldnt sell it right away 2016-08-13T17:46:52 < dongs> my shit idles at 3kW 2016-08-13T17:47:15 < englishman> some places have different rates day/night where a battery can totally make sense to save on power 2016-08-13T17:47:39 < jpa-> my house idles at some 200W, though average usage is some 400W due to cooking etc. 2016-08-13T17:49:07 < englishman> i didnt expect a basement dweller to have any more than that 2016-08-13T17:49:14 < englishman> unless your waifu pillow is inflatable 2016-08-13T17:49:23 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-13T17:49:28 < Laurenceb__> literally pumpin 2016-08-13T17:49:51 < BrainDamage> 200W here as well, gas stove and gas heater for hot water 2016-08-13T17:50:18 < Laurenceb__> stove for heating your tendies 2016-08-13T17:50:51 < PeterM> i'd need to tong my mains to see what im idlin at, never bothered to look 2016-08-13T17:51:03 < BrainDamage> i think you meant (((oven))), and surely gas would be involved before 2016-08-13T17:51:19 < PeterM> id say it'd be around 1500w 2016-08-13T17:51:51 < PeterM> dongs for 5kw charge/discharge eectrnoics could be fairly straight forward 2016-08-13T17:51:53 < Laurenceb__> top kek 2016-08-13T17:52:26 < PeterM> for your 48v system you could do most of it with off the shelf stuff 2016-08-13T17:52:41 < PeterM> but it wouldnt be terribly efficient 2016-08-13T17:54:59 < Rob235> you guys made me curious so I checked, my gf and I average 400 KWH a month 2016-08-13T17:56:20 < Laurenceb__> too much information 2016-08-13T17:56:46 < Laurenceb__> > gf 2016-08-13T17:56:50 < Laurenceb__> > irc 2016-08-13T17:56:53 < Rob235> i apologice 2016-08-13T17:56:54 < Rob235> z 2016-08-13T17:56:54 < Laurenceb__> pls pick one 2016-08-13T17:57:22 < jpa-> Laurenceb__: everyone here has a gf, except you, and that's just because of your links 2016-08-13T17:57:42 < Laurenceb__> cool story bro 2016-08-13T17:58:00 < Laurenceb__> so you are saying my links attract grrrls? 2016-08-13T17:58:07 < jpa-> yes 2016-08-13T17:58:15 < ReadError> https://photos.smugmug.com/Quads/i-qTqCNHb/0/X3/CA_08131610505919-X3.jpg 2016-08-13T17:58:42 < Rob235> ReadError: nice, looks just like the pics 2016-08-13T17:58:55 < ReadError> yea funny how that wokrs 2016-08-13T17:59:02 < ReadError> sometimes 2016-08-13T17:59:11 < Laurenceb__> nice gold 2016-08-13T17:59:17 < dongs> PeterM: 48V setup efficiency looks to be around 88-90% 2016-08-13T17:59:18 < Rob235> i mean obviously... I just meant it looks cool to see it produced 2016-08-13T17:59:33 < ReadError> osh's swift pcbs are pretty nasty tho 2016-08-13T17:59:34 < dongs> .. but so is 108V 2016-08-13T17:59:48 < dongs> about same 2016-08-13T18:01:34 < Rob235> are the pads supposed to be bridged on top of that center component like that? 2016-08-13T18:01:49 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-13T18:01:55 < ReadError> i mean its not best practice 2016-08-13T18:02:08 < ReadError> but im handassembling so doesnt matter 2016-08-13T18:03:04 < Laurenceb__> I got some seeeeeeeeeeeeeed pcbs yesterday, v impressive quality 2016-08-13T18:03:14 < Laurenceb__> they obviously improved their shit 2016-08-13T18:03:20 < Rob235> whats the price difference between swift and regular for osh? 2016-08-13T18:03:21 < dongs> watg 2016-08-13T18:03:38 < Laurenceb__> def better than pcb/man/train 2016-08-13T18:03:45 < ReadError> Rob235 free 2016-08-13T18:03:50 < Steffanx> Yet all the same fab Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-13T18:03:56 < Steffanx> also, pics? 2016-08-13T18:04:01 < dongs> pics or it didnt happen 2016-08-13T18:04:14 < Laurenceb__> lul no pics sorry 2016-08-13T18:04:14 < Steffanx> but be aware: haters are gonna hate. 2016-08-13T18:04:20 < Laurenceb__> 25 times cheaper than pcbtrain 2016-08-13T18:04:23 < dongs> then youre lying 2016-08-13T18:05:40 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/qVhJeR0o/IMG_1451.JPG 2016-08-13T18:05:44 < ReadError> what the fuck 2016-08-13T18:05:50 < ReadError> is this 'pro' level routing? 2016-08-13T18:06:05 < ReadError> i mean its matched but im not feelin the odd angles 2016-08-13T18:06:06 < dongs> what about it 2016-08-13T18:06:08 < dongs> looks like pcie 2016-08-13T18:06:10 < PeterM> ReadError, confirmed, i just soldered a neodymium magent with my metcal nad managed to not bring the magnet to its curiepoint 2016-08-13T18:06:11 < dongs> shrug 2016-08-13T18:06:19 < PeterM> the first one i tried i fucked up on though 2016-08-13T18:06:28 < ReadError> PeterM go hard and fast? 2016-08-13T18:06:40 < ReadError> im thinking of using the 5mm tip and just gettin some 2016-08-13T18:06:51 < PeterM> nah 2016-08-13T18:06:52 < dongs> whats the point of soldering a magnet 2016-08-13T18:07:05 < ReadError> its needed for kawaiicharger 2016-08-13T18:07:50 < PeterM> you want to like clamp that shit in something to heat sink it a bit and tin its edge, dip in water, tin other edge, dip in water, then sodler the tinned sides to the board beccause much easier to melt lead than to tin tshit 2016-08-13T18:08:05 < ReadError> ok that sounds way too hard 2016-08-13T18:08:15 < ReadError> i got epoxy too 2016-08-13T18:08:26 < PeterM> although... i was sodleirng fucking minute magnets 2016-08-13T18:08:31 < ReadError> i think i can solder it tho just normal, got a bunch to try with 2016-08-13T18:08:38 < ReadError> strong fuckers too 2016-08-13T18:08:54 < PeterM> then you really want to clamp that shit, and dwell for as short as you can 2016-08-13T18:09:07 < PeterM> otherwise it'll stick tro your iron and you wotn be able to get it off 2016-08-13T18:09:16 < PeterM> untill it demagnetizes 2016-08-13T18:09:23 < PeterM> kek ensues 2016-08-13T18:09:28 < ReadError> yea tru, was wondering about it trying to sleeper it 2016-08-13T18:09:36 < ReadError> but i think that sensor is farther up 2016-08-13T18:09:40 < ReadError> further? 2016-08-13T18:09:44 < PeterM> nah, just clamp that shut 2016-08-13T18:09:56 < PeterM> its not a sensor, you jsut saturate the "transformer" 2016-08-13T18:10:05 < ReadError> oh? 2016-08-13T18:10:08 < PeterM> yeah 2016-08-13T18:10:12 < ReadError> but not at the tip tho 2016-08-13T18:10:15 < PeterM> yeah 2016-08-13T18:10:21 < ReadError> ahh alright 2016-08-13T18:10:28 < PeterM> the tip extends inside the cartridge abotu 1cm 2016-08-13T18:10:41 < PeterM> so it can have a coil wrapped around it 2016-08-13T18:12:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.50] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T18:14:08 < PeterM> wait 2016-08-13T18:14:24 < PeterM> ReadMobl, if thats pcie i dont even 2016-08-13T18:14:30 < dongs> it is 2016-08-13T18:14:36 < ReadError> it is 2016-08-13T18:14:49 < ReadError> just seems odd to have some odd ass angle traces 2016-08-13T18:14:50 < PeterM> because in pcie, the two lines for each pair need ot be the same length 2016-08-13T18:14:55 < PeterM> but all pairs dont 2016-08-13T18:15:02 < ReadError> yea I understand that part 2016-08-13T18:15:03 < dongs> https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8d80ef6191f86db43733841de64e2a6c-c?convert_to_webp=true mm, tesla pack 2016-08-13T18:15:09 < dongs> PeterM: they are 2016-08-13T18:15:10 < PeterM> so why 2016-08-13T18:15:15 < ReadError> i just dont understand why they did some dumb angle 2016-08-13T18:15:15 < dongs> you can see the serpentine on the left side 2016-08-13T18:15:20 < dongs> where shorter end is matched 2016-08-13T18:15:23 < PeterM> BUT THEY DONT NEED TO BE 2016-08-13T18:15:59 < PeterM> tesla packs are fucked 2016-08-13T18:16:25 < PeterM> each pack is like 58v or some shit 2016-08-13T18:16:42 < PeterM> its liek 14s7p or something 2016-08-13T18:16:55 < dongs> mhm 2016-08-13T18:17:04 < dongs> you mean each of those silver shits? 2016-08-13T18:17:08 < PeterM> yer 2016-08-13T18:17:13 < dongs> and then what? series? 2016-08-13T18:17:18 < zyp> yes 2016-08-13T18:17:44 < PeterM> series parallel 2016-08-13T18:17:51 < dongs> so looks like parallelling shit is not a problem 2016-08-13T18:18:00 < dongs> or else tesladongs would be out of business 2016-08-13T18:18:06 < PeterM> paralleling is nto an issue 2016-08-13T18:18:46 < PeterM> but you'd want a robutt to parallel that many 18650s because fuck that 2016-08-13T18:18:55 < dongs> wiat wat 2016-08-13T18:18:58 < dongs> tesla is 18650s? 2016-08-13T18:19:07 < zyp> yes 2016-08-13T18:19:09 < ReadError> for now 2016-08-13T18:19:17 < ReadError> they switchin to 27750 or something hipster 2016-08-13T18:19:33 < dongs> fucking seriously? where's a teardown 2016-08-13T18:19:43 < ReadError> never seen one? 2016-08-13T18:19:47 < dongs> no 2016-08-13T18:19:48 < ReadError> its a fuckload of cells 2016-08-13T18:20:18 < PeterM> https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/how-many-18650-batteries-does-70d-have 2016-08-13T18:20:19 < zyp> http://coppermotor.ppginteractive.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Tesla-Model-S-Battery-Pack-Ricardo-photo_1280.jpg 2016-08-13T18:20:41 < englishman> uh i thought this was common knowledge 2016-08-13T18:20:46 < englishman> they are just massive vapes 2016-08-13T18:20:47 < englishman> the cars 2016-08-13T18:21:00 < zyp> to be honest, I was pretty surprised when I learned it too 2016-08-13T18:21:04 < englishman> brought the price of vapist cells down a ton due to quantity 2016-08-13T18:21:55 < zyp> http://d112tss1dzpest.cloudfront.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/26/files/2015/03/1-20150228_144228.jpg?323d81 2016-08-13T18:22:16 < dongs> holy shit. 2016-08-13T18:22:20 < dongs> yeah news2me 2016-08-13T18:22:30 < PeterM> shits fucked 2016-08-13T18:22:37 < Rob235> wow 2016-08-13T18:22:46 < dongs> vaper paradise 2016-08-13T18:22:52 < PeterM> the thought of paralleling up liek 5p10s is fucked 2016-08-13T18:22:54 < englishman> group buy 2016-08-13T18:23:00 < Rob235> I have 10 'cells', I'm almost there! 2016-08-13T18:23:12 < Rob235> 5000 to go 2016-08-13T18:23:18 < PeterM> letalong paralleing up liek 20p100s 2016-08-13T18:23:42 < ReadError> I still need to test these 1.10$ 'efest' cells 2016-08-13T18:23:50 < PeterM> i considered making an 18650 pack for the bike instead of using leaf batts 2016-08-13T18:24:00 < ReadError> im scared to put them in anything so they have been on chill 2016-08-13T18:24:11 < PeterM> but i was liek fuck sodleirng 200 18650 cells 2016-08-13T18:24:32 < dongs> chargerpro has a spotwelder 2016-08-13T18:24:39 < dongs> chinaspecial 2016-08-13T18:24:52 < englishman> PeterM: i know a dude who just put them together in a tube with some crimp terms between them, then clamped them together to make good contacts 2016-08-13T18:25:01 < ReadError> the spotwelder pen was like 70$ 2016-08-13T18:25:16 < ReadError> you can buy a whole arc welder for that lol, shits nuts 2016-08-13T18:26:31 < englishman> stuff like this makes me wonder why every carmaker doesnt have a tesla competitor 2016-08-13T18:26:46 < englishman> but instead they keep putting out ugly slow low-capacity garbage 2016-08-13T18:26:50 < englishman> for not much less money 2016-08-13T18:26:58 < englishman> with short life batteries 2016-08-13T18:27:14 < dongs> don't forget that tesla exclusively uses PICs for their onboard computers 2016-08-13T18:27:24 < dongs> everything is PIC16, with a bit of PIC24 here and there 2016-08-13T18:27:31 < zyp> not much less? uh 2016-08-13T18:27:45 < zyp> every other EV is like less than half the price of a tesla 2016-08-13T18:27:46 < englishman> id think most of their should would be off the shelf from delphi or whatever 2016-08-13T18:29:18 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=070JJwgupRw 2016-08-13T18:29:19 < dongs> nice 2016-08-13T18:29:25 < englishman> zyp: but, is any car in that price range even close to tesla battery capacity? 2016-08-13T18:29:30 < PeterM> englishman, thats a fine idea (tube etc) but you want sprign pressure because over time that shit will bend and no longer be clamped. 2016-08-13T18:29:43 < zyp> englishman, in what price range? 2016-08-13T18:29:52 < englishman> ~half of tesla 2016-08-13T18:30:01 < zyp> why would you expect that? 2016-08-13T18:30:26 < englishman> The 2015 model year BMW i8 has a 7.1 kWh lithium-ion battery pack that delivers an all-electric range of 37 km (23 mi) 2016-08-13T18:30:27 < englishman> like wtf 2016-08-13T18:30:39 < zyp> it's a hybrid, doesn't compare 2016-08-13T18:30:42 < englishman> are there any electric cars approaching tesla capcity even in the same price range? 2016-08-13T18:30:48 < englishman> yeah i didnt know it was a hybrid 2016-08-13T18:30:55 < englishman> just assumed since i3 isnt 2016-08-13T18:31:05 < englishman> wait the i3 is too 2016-08-13T18:31:06 < englishman> wtf 2016-08-13T18:31:06 < PeterM> sure, what does like 3x nissan leafs cost 2016-08-13T18:31:10 < zyp> the upcoming chevrolet bolt will have a 60kWh battery 2016-08-13T18:31:13 < englishman> but its ugly enough to be a BEV 2016-08-13T18:31:15 < PeterM> probably the same as a tesla 2016-08-13T18:31:27 < zyp> i3 is a BEV 2016-08-13T18:31:46 < zyp> with an optional gas generator «range extender» 2016-08-13T18:31:49 < englishman> ah with optional generator 2016-08-13T18:31:50 < englishman> hyeah 2016-08-13T18:31:58 < englishman> still half, or less battery capacity 2016-08-13T18:32:04 < zyp> yeah 2016-08-13T18:32:21 < zyp> the range extender variant doesn't sell much in norway at all, but the BEV sells pretty well 2016-08-13T18:32:23 < englishman> thats cool chevy will do that 2016-08-13T18:32:32 < englishman> but 3 years after 2016-08-13T18:32:54 < zyp> because the range extender variant gets classified as a hybrid, and they don't enjoy the same tax benefits as pure BEVs here 2016-08-13T18:36:14 < PeterM> 2016 nissan leaf is $29k, tesla is $100k 3 nissan leafs gets you pretty close in range and price 2016-08-13T18:37:29 < dongs> fuckkkkk theres like 500 screws in that tesla pack 2016-08-13T18:37:34 < dongs> just on top 2016-08-13T18:37:39 < zyp> haha 2016-08-13T18:37:45 < englishman> dont drop one between the terminals 2016-08-13T18:38:37 < dongs> https://youtu.be/070JJwgupRw?t=187 2016-08-13T18:38:38 < englishman> going by PeterM's math, 100% of the cost of a BEV is the battery, the rest is free 2016-08-13T18:38:42 -!- OneSploit_ [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T18:38:48 < englishman> :) 2016-08-13T18:43:33 < PeterM> englishman thats not far from the truth 2016-08-13T18:44:46 < dongs> https://youtu.be/070JJwgupRw?t=455 what the fuck is he doing?! 2016-08-13T18:44:48 < Rob235> hmm I should probably register my drone now... 2016-08-13T18:45:06 < zyp> dongs, blowing out the coolant, I guess 2016-08-13T18:45:09 < PeterM> draining hte coolant 2016-08-13T18:45:19 < PeterM> they liquid cool the pack 2016-08-13T18:45:22 < dongs> there's coolant? like radiator or wahtever? 2016-08-13T18:45:24 < dongs> oh nice 2016-08-13T18:45:33 < zyp> cooling or heating 2016-08-13T18:45:38 < zyp> depending on the need 2016-08-13T18:45:44 < zyp> in winter they heat it 2016-08-13T18:45:47 < PeterM> http://coppermotor.ppginteractive.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Tesla-Model-S-Battery-Pack-Ricardo-photo_1280.jpg 2016-08-13T18:46:00 < PeterM> see the thing that snakes through the pack 2016-08-13T18:46:05 < dongs> wait, really? 2016-08-13T18:46:10 < zyp> yes 2016-08-13T18:46:10 < dongs> thats like copper pipe or something? 2016-08-13T18:46:17 < dongs> hah, neat 2016-08-13T18:46:17 < zyp> flat pipe 2016-08-13T18:46:19 < dongs> right 2016-08-13T18:46:42 < PeterM> heating the pack is totally worth while 2016-08-13T18:47:16 < zyp> yeah, when winter comes, I'm probably going to wish my car did that 2016-08-13T18:47:21 < englishman> every cell is bonded thru a fusible link too lol 2016-08-13T18:47:26 < PeterM> yeah 2016-08-13T18:47:42 < dongs> are tehre 2 layers of shit in that tesla/ 2016-08-13T18:47:48 < dongs> or is that all 2016-08-13T18:47:54 < dongs> he's taking the cell modules now 2016-08-13T18:47:59 < PeterM> just one iirc 2016-08-13T18:48:11 < zyp> only one, except for the two stacked ones in the end 2016-08-13T18:48:26 < dongs> hm so its about the fatness of 16880 + extra bit of junk 2016-08-13T18:48:49 < zyp> yeah, the entire pack is pretty flat 2016-08-13T18:49:08 < dongs> so uh... not much of a BMS there is there 2016-08-13T18:49:21 < zyp> there's a BMS in each module 2016-08-13T18:49:23 < dongs> surely looks like less wires than leaf 2016-08-13T18:49:30 < PeterM> gotta say, i liek the laminated pouch cells in the leaf better than the cylindrical cells in the tesla 2016-08-13T18:49:33 < englishman> https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/tesla-20bms-20module-20-20front-1280-jpg.141757/ 2016-08-13T18:49:40 < PeterM> can't tesselate a fuckin circle bro 2016-08-13T18:49:45 < zyp> https://imagecdn2.panjo.com/images/BbwZ3mtDtDwC.jpg 2016-08-13T18:49:52 < englishman> http://files.wizkid057.com/teslapack/update2/Tesla%20BMS%20Module%20-%20Back.jpg 2016-08-13T18:49:53 < dongs> oh there's that pic 2016-08-13T18:50:11 < Rob235> $5 for 3 year registration... not worth it 2016-08-13T18:50:24 < englishman> hires http://files.wizkid057.com/teslapack/update2/Tesla%20BMS%20Module%20-%20Front.jpg 2016-08-13T18:50:35 < englishman> sure thats pic16? 2016-08-13T18:51:16 < dongs> that shit looks lasered off 2016-08-13T18:51:25 < dongs> i see a fucking shitlabs F530 2016-08-13T18:51:26 < PeterM> u4 is probs pic 16 2016-08-13T18:51:43 < PeterM> u1 is batt balancing asic 2016-08-13T18:52:25 < zyp> u4 looks like some isolation chip 2016-08-13T18:52:27 < englishman> i see a ti logo on the large qfp 2016-08-13T18:52:34 < zyp> considering how it sits across two ground planes 2016-08-13T18:52:35 < englishman> u1 2016-08-13T18:52:52 < PeterM> tru 2016-08-13T18:53:09 < zyp> j1 is probably the connector out of the module 2016-08-13T18:53:14 < PeterM> u4 is probably one of those AD mems isolators with the miniture transformers in it 2016-08-13T18:53:31 < zyp> yeah 2016-08-13T18:53:49 < englishman> http://www.ti.com/product/BQ76PL536A 2016-08-13T18:54:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T18:54:35 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-13T18:54:47 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-13T18:55:08 < englishman> then f530 to control 2016-08-13T18:56:54 < PeterM> time to sleep 2016-08-13T19:00:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.139.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-13T19:11:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T19:13:22 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T19:52:44 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/3TZgCuR.png awww yea 2016-08-13T19:52:49 < ReadError> low end gamer pc card 2016-08-13T19:53:07 < Steffanx> you bought it? 2016-08-13T19:53:19 < ReadError> not for the crazy prices 2016-08-13T19:53:22 < ReadError> but ya 2016-08-13T19:54:40 < Steffanx> "not for the crazy prices" => ebay-ish? 2016-08-13T19:54:54 < ReadError> 269 from amazon 2016-08-13T19:55:05 < ReadError> went up to 340 after 2016-08-13T19:55:20 < ReadError> people are gouging since they are so hard to find 2016-08-13T19:55:56 < ReadError> so if you look at the reviews its mostly 1 stars people complaining lol 2016-08-13T19:56:22 <@kakimir> gayming parts are weird 2016-08-13T19:56:34 < Steffanx> kakimir is weird too, but what's the issue? 2016-08-13T19:56:50 <@kakimir> prices can go up from launch to release of next gen 2016-08-13T19:57:03 <@kakimir> in constant climb 2016-08-13T19:57:49 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T19:59:44 <@kakimir> and sale price can be just sligtly under price of next gen and someone actually buys last ones in stock 2016-08-13T20:00:19 <@kakimir> savings are real 2016-08-13T20:00:38 <@kakimir> bbl> 2016-08-13T20:04:24 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: know much about vehicle mods and stuff? 2016-08-13T20:04:38 < Laurenceb__> where can I find a database of Hayes manual type material? 2016-08-13T20:07:48 < Rob235> no hydro copper 1080 :( 2016-08-13T20:08:08 < Rob235> wtf are these different 1080 versions? ftw, founders, classified? 2016-08-13T20:10:08 < ReadError> I just wanted the DP ports 2016-08-13T20:10:22 < ReadError> 1060 seem best bang for yang 2016-08-13T20:10:31 < Rob235> I'm sticking with my 980 for a while probably 2016-08-13T20:10:38 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-13T20:10:39 < ReadError> had a 770 2016-08-13T20:10:44 < ReadError> couldnt do the new HDMI ;( 2016-08-13T20:11:05 < ReadError> well I have 2 so ill SLI them again 2016-08-13T20:12:22 < scrts> sup lads? 2016-08-13T20:13:18 < Rob235> hmm... where to test my drone... 2016-08-13T20:13:20 < Rob235> trying to think of a close field 2016-08-13T20:14:00 < ReadError> any school right now 2016-08-13T20:14:03 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-13T20:15:18 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T20:19:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T20:22:12 < Rob235> http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx?itemid=1479203707&partno=12G-P4-2999-KR&rid=90&origin=pla&gclid=CjwKEAjwiru9BRDwyKmR08L3iS0SJABN8T4v7KgN2JLe0k2EUUaV_xJ3BfAXrgHBRoFZHf76XarENhoCg8nw_wcB 2016-08-13T20:22:18 < Rob235> psh 2016-08-13T20:27:13 < Rob235> getting bored, dab time 2016-08-13T20:31:07 < englishman> Laurenceb__: there isn't really a database for these 2016-08-13T20:31:13 < englishman> Sometimes libgen has them 2016-08-13T20:31:25 < englishman> But tbh your library probably has them all 2016-08-13T20:31:50 < Steffanx> What the hell is "dab" Rob235? 2016-08-13T20:31:54 < Laurenceb__> think I found what I wanted in google images in the end 2016-08-13T20:32:06 < Steffanx> Also what information you seek Laurenceb__? 2016-08-13T20:32:07 < Rob235> something I probably should have kept to myself... way of smoking weed 2016-08-13T20:32:32 < Laurenceb__> Steffanx: suspension types on ancient ambulances 2016-08-13T20:32:36 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T20:32:49 < Laurenceb__> thats different from ancient aliens 2016-08-13T20:34:01 < englishman> crt: ^•^ https://i.sli.mg/0DdDDo.jpg 2016-08-13T20:34:03 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-13T20:34:36 < englishman> Steffanx: its the new modern high tech way of breathing marijuana very quickly 2016-08-13T20:35:28 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T20:36:51 < Rob235> not sure if you are familiar with weed concentrates called shatter/wax/oil. basically a hard/viscous goopy substance that is extracted from buds and is 70%+ THC. You take a tiny bit of it on a titanium rod and 'dab' it on a blowtorch heated piece of quartz or titanium and inhale the vapor. 2016-08-13T20:36:58 < Steffanx> Isn't it sad that some Canadian has to tell the dutchie that? 2016-08-13T20:37:11 < Steffanx> / uslander 2016-08-13T20:38:15 < englishman> not really, Americans need to invent new ways to get stoned after getting so stoned, the old ways become boring 2016-08-13T20:38:37 < Rob235> healthier (if made properly) and my throat/lungs don't get nearly as sore (if at all) 2016-08-13T20:38:52 < Steffanx> im not familar with anything related to weed at all Rob235. Except for the fellows that use it the original way. 2016-08-13T20:39:59 < Rob235> I just do it because I get a terrible sore throat from smoking it normally 2016-08-13T20:41:03 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-13T20:41:08 < Rob235> but anyway 2016-08-13T20:41:12 < Rob235> onto another topic 2016-08-13T20:41:21 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T20:41:38 < Steffanx> Too late. First vaping, now stoning. :P 2016-08-13T20:41:52 < scrts> american still cook meth 2016-08-13T20:42:02 < scrts> *americans 2016-08-13T20:43:18 < BrainDamage> and russians have krokodil 2016-08-13T20:43:29 < Steffanx> damn that crap.. 2016-08-13T20:43:59 < Rob235> wtf 2016-08-13T20:44:05 < Rob235> this is the first thing I get: https://laviolaworld.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/krokodil-15.jpg 2016-08-13T20:44:25 < Steffanx> and you know enough now probably. 2016-08-13T20:44:38 < Rob235> its an opiod??? 2016-08-13T20:44:44 < zyp> ##drugs32 2016-08-13T20:45:31 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine 2016-08-13T20:45:51 < englishman> I did a drug once, was stoned as fuck. paracetamol is hardcore 2016-08-13T20:46:06 < zyp> heh 2016-08-13T20:46:27 < Rob235> :P 2016-08-13T20:47:03 < Steffanx> englishman, your customs dont allowed me to send you stroopwafels. No food. 2016-08-13T20:47:08 < BrainDamage> > Gangrene, phlebitis, thrombosis (blood clots), pneumonia, meningitis, septicaemia (blood infection), osteomyelitis (bone infection), liver & kidney damage, brain damage and HIV/AIDS are also common amongst users of krokodi 2016-08-13T20:47:18 < zyp> Steffanx, can you send some to me instead then? 2016-08-13T20:47:19 < englishman> Steffanx: just put them down as wafer samples. 2016-08-13T20:47:42 < Rob235> oh so krokodil would be safe if made properly, that makes more sense 2016-08-13T20:48:15 < BrainDamage> well, it's still a bit toxic 2016-08-13T20:48:21 < Steffanx> oh, i lied. it seems it does not list food. 2016-08-13T20:48:26 < Rob235> its the iodine and phosphorus left over that does the damage 2016-08-13T20:49:09 < englishman> Russians already have plenty of iodine given to them. 2016-08-13T20:54:09 < Steffanx> zyp, it's also ##offtopicmuch32 and ##steffanxShouldStopGivingADamnAboutThat32 2016-08-13T21:10:20 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-13T21:12:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-13T21:17:32 < Laurenceb__> http://thecuck.gawker.com/welcome-to-gawkers-new-mens-site-the-cuck-1785101113 2016-08-13T21:19:04 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T21:22:36 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T21:35:55 -!- sockofleas [18be55be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.190.85.190] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-08-13T21:37:55 < englishman> lol 2016-08-13T21:38:00 < englishman> is gawker bankrupt yet 2016-08-13T21:40:34 < Laurenceb__> apparently thats one of their final shitposts 2016-08-13T21:43:15 < englishman> with laurenceb quality posting like that... yeah 2016-08-13T21:43:49 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T21:45:35 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T21:47:39 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-13T21:51:51 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/TRE9qxT 2016-08-13T21:55:39 < Steffanx> Truth about Laurenceb__. 2016-08-13T21:56:08 < Laurenceb__> they are on to me 2016-08-13T21:56:24 < Steffanx> When will you wake up? 2016-08-13T21:56:29 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T21:56:53 < Steffanx> Will you were a proper tie at that day? 2016-08-13T21:57:00 < Steffanx> *wear 2016-08-13T21:57:18 < Laurenceb__> wut 2016-08-13T21:57:28 < Laurenceb__> whats with the tie discussion? 2016-08-13T21:57:44 < Steffanx> dont you remember your wonderful tie from your highaltitude video? 2016-08-13T21:58:14 < Laurenceb__> ah yeah it has balloons on 2016-08-13T21:58:34 < Steffanx> All i remember is THAT. 2016-08-13T21:58:40 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-13T22:02:00 < Laurenceb__> http://www.tonkinonlineparts.com/images/parts/gm/fullsize/980318TP06-321.JPG 2016-08-13T22:02:10 < Laurenceb__> anyone want to tell me what kind of suspension that is? 2016-08-13T22:02:15 < Laurenceb__> double-wishbone? 2016-08-13T22:08:00 < englishman> looks like it 2016-08-13T22:08:06 < englishman> front wheels of rwd 2016-08-13T22:08:11 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-13T22:08:36 < englishman> probably van or truck 2016-08-13T22:08:45 < englishman> small truck 2016-08-13T22:08:46 < englishman> ? 2016-08-13T22:08:58 < Steffanx> he was looking for ambulance suspension. 2016-08-13T22:09:02 < Steffanx> *old 2016-08-13T22:09:19 < Laurenceb__> its a P-30 truck chassis 2016-08-13T22:14:11 < Steffanx> Have plans to go in the old truck/ambulance business? 2016-08-13T22:14:50 < englishman> guessing he's finding ways to not shake the babby 2016-08-13T22:15:27 < englishman> soon all ambulances will have expensive Laurenceb baby gimbals 2016-08-13T22:17:30 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-13T22:18:03 < Laurenceb__> Steffanx: no just writing about suspension systems on older vehicles 2016-08-13T22:18:21 < Laurenceb__> maglev babby 2016-08-13T22:18:24 < Steffanx> Writing? You still do paper publising? 2016-08-13T22:18:27 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-13T22:18:43 < Laurenceb__> muh CV 2016-08-13T22:19:24 < Steffanx> Boring. 2016-08-13T22:19:58 < Laurenceb__> better than fapping all day 2016-08-13T22:20:22 < Laurenceb__> better than joining ISIS 2016-08-13T22:20:28 < Steffanx> Yeah, better browse the crap web all day long. 2016-08-13T22:20:59 < Laurenceb__> speaking of which I should check if my ISIS buddy is still alive 2016-08-13T22:21:17 < Laurenceb__> prob got Russian'd already 2016-08-13T22:21:58 < Laurenceb__> its funny cuz he's Swedish 2016-08-13T22:22:09 < Laurenceb__> ^ insert Sweden yes meme 2016-08-13T22:23:29 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-13T22:24:38 < Steffanx> Better tell him to not return from the battlefield. 2016-08-13T22:28:13 < englishman> ISIS buddy 2016-08-13T22:28:23 < englishman> Only marginally worse than bonzi buddy 2016-08-13T22:28:44 < Steffanx> Ambulance bombs is the way to go Laurenceb__? 2016-08-13T22:29:24 < Laurenceb__> englishman: prob most ppl in UK know at least one loon in ISIS 2016-08-13T22:29:47 < Laurenceb__> theres several from my old school 2016-08-13T22:30:09 < Steffanx> What did you do to them to hate the western world so bad? 2016-08-13T22:30:09 < englishman> laurenceb of arabia 2016-08-13T22:30:19 < Laurenceb__> all converts 2016-08-13T22:30:28 < englishman> Steffanx: have you not heard of UK's mighty colonization 2016-08-13T22:30:28 < Steffanx> those are the best. 2016-08-13T22:30:31 < Laurenceb__> Steffanx: they were all bullied at school 2016-08-13T22:30:51 < Steffanx> afaik dutchland didn't to bad either in the time englishman 2016-08-13T22:31:02 < Steffanx> *that 2016-08-13T22:31:08 -!- mra90 [~Martin@brs159.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T22:31:29 < Laurenceb__> its more liek Columbine the state 2016-08-13T22:32:01 < Laurenceb__> hopefully they break their noses with AK-47 recoil 2016-08-13T22:32:59 < Laurenceb__> ironically the ones I know used to be /pol/ tier at the time 2016-08-13T22:33:44 < englishman> I like the old English naval novels, in the time of napoleon, Dutch are always rock throwing savages 2016-08-13T22:34:25 < BrainDamage> as opposed to savages that throw their rocks with gunpowder? 2016-08-13T22:37:49 < Steffanx> hehe 2016-08-13T22:46:08 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@p4FDBFCA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T22:47:21 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T22:52:20 * KreAture_Zzz just broke his oled 2016-08-13T22:52:45 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-13T22:54:24 < Steffanx> dont sleep on it KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-13T22:54:47 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-13T22:55:02 < KreAture_> cracked the edge of the unsupported glass round the controller chip 2016-08-13T22:55:09 < KreAture_> ofcource there were traces in there 2016-08-13T22:55:11 < KreAture_> oh well 2016-08-13T22:55:15 < KreAture_> Good thing I got 10 more on order 2016-08-13T22:55:23 < KreAture_> love these little 128x64 oleds 2016-08-13T22:55:35 < KreAture_> The libs online sucks though 2016-08-13T22:55:46 < KreAture_> I see the i2c interface allows for bulk data transfers 2016-08-13T22:55:53 < Steffanx> got those with this bar in the top of just the single color one? 2016-08-13T22:56:15 < KreAture_> yet, everyone keeps doing slave_address+controlbyte+data, repeat... 2016-08-13T22:56:23 < KreAture_> single color ones 2016-08-13T22:56:29 < Steffanx> spi ones <3 2016-08-13T22:56:39 < KreAture_> spi ones are odd as they are 9 bit 2016-08-13T22:57:00 < KreAture_> the i2c ones are addressable and completely standard vs the i2c protocol so you can do dma based transfers 2016-08-13T22:57:02 < KreAture_> cleanly 2016-08-13T22:57:15 < KreAture_> anyways, the lobs have a bit to be desred I find 2016-08-13T22:57:23 < KreAture_> spi is ofcource faster though 2016-08-13T22:57:24 < KreAture_> hehe 2016-08-13T23:07:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T23:10:25 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@p4FDBFCA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-13T23:12:42 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T23:12:42 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T23:18:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T23:18:07 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T23:32:13 < Shavik> Does STM have a listing of when they expect certain chips to be available? 2016-08-13T23:33:08 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T23:33:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-13T23:33:25 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-13T23:33:26 < Shavik> Looks like Avnet is the only supplier to carry the STM32F412RG 2016-08-13T23:36:27 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-13T23:37:38 < Rob235> turning vape bottles into something useful http://imgur.com/a/nwpUt 2016-08-13T23:38:59 <@kakimir> Sync: what is this tow number of carbon fiber stuff? 2016-08-13T23:39:06 <@kakimir> 3K etc. 2016-08-13T23:39:33 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-13T23:44:17 <@kakimir> it's the number of seperate fibres in the fiber 2016-08-13T23:46:48 <@kakimir> but what does it change if same weight fabric has different number 2016-08-13T23:47:40 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-13T23:51:06 < Shavik> I want to hug the people that kept the pinout between the STM32F401 and the STM32F405 64pin LQFP packages nearly identical 2016-08-13T23:51:46 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwwbnaxoerwnodoo] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T23:57:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-13T23:57:41 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-13T23:57:59 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@p4FDBFCA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Aug 14 2016 2016-08-14T00:04:19 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/nwpUt :P 2016-08-14T00:05:15 < Tectu> what am I looking at, Mr. Rob235 ? 2016-08-14T00:05:49 <@kakimir> are you going to jihad with that Rob235 ? 2016-08-14T00:06:55 < Rob235> I'm going to mount an arduino (only thing I have a box for) on the wall a couple feet from the bed with an IR led in it and have wires running a couple feet down to that thing. Just a basic tv remote that I can't lose 2016-08-14T00:07:21 < Rob235> and don't have to worry about getting a viewing angle to the cable box 2016-08-14T00:07:26 < Rob235> which is low 2016-08-14T00:07:44 < Rob235> mostly wanted just an on/off switch for when going to bed 2016-08-14T00:09:40 <@kakimir> it looks like something to mount to a bomb belt 2016-08-14T00:09:53 < Rob235> or a superhero belt! 2016-08-14T00:10:05 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@p4FDBFCA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-14T00:10:05 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-14T00:15:01 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T00:29:13 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T00:31:39 < Steffanx> afaik no such list exists Shavik 2016-08-14T00:35:54 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o kakimir] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T00:38:18 < kakimir> Rob235: or just a hero belt 2016-08-14T00:40:54 < Steffanx> What would be your super power Rob235? 2016-08-14T00:41:15 < Steffanx> i could mention the obvious, but that is no fun. 2016-08-14T00:42:08 < Rob235> my power would be reinventing the wheel really fast 2016-08-14T00:42:55 < Steffanx> with or without ##stm32? 2016-08-14T00:43:11 < Rob235> of course without, I don't get help here anyway hah 2016-08-14T00:43:37 < Steffanx> our support aint helping? 2016-08-14T00:43:42 < Steffanx> *my 2016-08-14T00:45:11 < kakimir> dongs: NSFW is this Japan? http://termite.apcdn.com/full/38991.jpg 2016-08-14T00:45:19 < Rob235> ok not completely, but in the beginning and until I got a handle on stm32 and I'd ask questions and never get answers and I'd find it out myself eventually, which is actually a good way to learn, but still... :) 2016-08-14T00:45:22 < kakimir> and how much? 2016-08-14T00:45:27 < kakimir> 100%? 2016-08-14T00:47:53 < Steffanx> Ah come on Rob235, you probably did get help once or twice, or a tiny pointer. As a wise man once said: Never say never. 2016-08-14T00:50:00 < Rob235> yea you are right, my bad 2016-08-14T00:51:37 < Tectu> blog me pls 2016-08-14T00:52:55 < Steffanx> what's your email address? 2016-08-14T00:54:29 < Tectu> sleepy@cheese.ch 2016-08-14T00:56:37 -!- mra90 [~Martin@brs159.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-14T00:57:22 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsf167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T01:12:28 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-14T01:13:26 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T01:16:04 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-14T01:16:49 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T01:18:28 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T01:22:06 < Laurenceb__> I'm confused kakimir 2016-08-14T01:22:11 < Laurenceb__> piss comes from where 2016-08-14T01:22:35 < Laurenceb__> unless its a shop 2016-08-14T01:27:32 < Steffanx> must be terribly old. flip phones 2016-08-14T01:27:55 < Steffanx> or is that still a thing in jappyland 2016-08-14T01:28:16 < kakimir> b0th 2016-08-14T01:28:40 < Laurenceb__> I see red circle of death 2016-08-14T01:38:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T01:41:38 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwwbnaxoerwnodoo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-14T01:43:43 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-isqqyhnkluwbpwzb] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T01:50:28 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-14T01:53:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T01:57:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-14T02:10:04 < upgrdman> lol http://thesmokinggun.com/buster/burglary/ohio-orange-juice-274935 2016-08-14T02:10:15 < upgrdman> "A 72-year-old Ohio man was arrested yesterday for allegedly slipping into the residence of a 61-year-old woman and ejaculating into a bottle of orange juice that he then shook up and returned to a refrigerator shelf." 2016-08-14T02:10:58 < Laurenceb__> wtf 2016-08-14T02:11:05 < Laurenceb__> chris-chan isnt that old 2016-08-14T02:19:52 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-14T02:28:16 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsf167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-14T02:32:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-14T02:42:29 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-isqqyhnkluwbpwzb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-14T02:56:12 < Laurenceb__> http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2016/08/12/irish_silk_road_extradition/ 2016-08-14T02:56:17 < Laurenceb__> who let 4chan in 2016-08-14T03:10:40 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T03:34:55 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T03:59:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T04:10:48 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-14T04:20:06 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T04:21:12 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v11fn20mxybnj.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T04:32:15 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-14T04:32:40 < upgrdman> i hope so 2016-08-14T04:33:30 < upgrdman> i was walking around Frys earlier today. just realized how there is nearly zero shelf space for pc games anymore. everything has gone to steam. 2016-08-14T04:33:54 < upgrdman> there was literally two vertical sections for pc games. and most of it targets at old geezers who want casino games on their pc 2016-08-14T04:33:57 < upgrdman> no 2016-08-14T04:34:06 < upgrdman> they had fallout4 2016-08-14T04:34:07 < upgrdman> but 2016-08-14T04:34:12 < upgrdman> it required steam 2016-08-14T04:34:16 < upgrdman> which is fine for me, but lol why 2016-08-14T04:34:19 < upgrdman> ya 2016-08-14T04:34:25 < upgrdman> my gtx1080 is up and running 2016-08-14T04:34:46 < upgrdman> R2COM, why sell dvd of game and then require downloading the rest of it online 2016-08-14T04:35:02 < upgrdman> ya i know. i like steam. but why make it required for boxed software to work 2016-08-14T04:35:37 < upgrdman> i did 2016-08-14T04:35:43 * upgrdman <- on steam 2016-08-14T04:35:49 < upgrdman> but bought nothing wait 2016-08-14T04:35:58 < upgrdman> waiting for some epic steam sale. when do those happen? 2016-08-14T04:36:03 * upgrdman <- 2016-08-14T04:37:32 < upgrdman> one sec 2016-08-14T04:39:29 < upgrdman> ya im upgrdman on steam 2016-08-14T04:39:38 < upgrdman> but i have no purchases so maybe im not visible? 2016-08-14T04:42:11 < upgrdman> link me to you 2016-08-14T04:42:17 < upgrdman> i mean gimme your link 2016-08-14T04:43:15 < zyp> steam is nice 2016-08-14T04:43:20 < zyp> keeps everything in one place 2016-08-14T04:43:35 < upgrdman> oh its the profile lnk 2016-08-14T04:43:40 < upgrdman> ok this should be me: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198323518485 2016-08-14T04:44:08 < upgrdman> zyp, agree no complaints 2016-08-14T04:44:11 < upgrdman> oh shit lol ok 2016-08-14T04:49:09 < upgrdman> ok, profile done. http://steamcommunity.com/id/upgrdman/ 2016-08-14T04:49:14 < upgrdman> of couse, nothing to see 2016-08-14T04:49:24 < upgrdman> i download the mafia2 and doom demos. that's it. lol 2016-08-14T04:49:58 < zyp> oh, my steam accout is apparently almost 13 years old 2016-08-14T04:50:21 < upgrdman> is insurgency good, r2com? 2016-08-14T04:51:52 < upgrdman> just accepted 2016-08-14T04:53:30 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T04:53:37 < upgrdman> o wow 2016-08-14T04:53:39 < upgrdman> thanks bro 2016-08-14T04:55:00 * upgrdman downloads 2016-08-14T04:55:45 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-14T04:55:56 < upgrdman> is summer sale already happened 2016-08-14T04:57:59 < upgrdman> dunno what i like :/ i have not gamed since 2004. i used to really enjoy FPS 2016-08-14T04:58:15 < upgrdman> wish more games had demos 2016-08-14T04:59:18 < upgrdman> for all games? 2016-08-14T04:59:30 < upgrdman> like 24hrs to decide? 2016-08-14T05:05:12 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-14T05:06:44 < upgrdman> nice 2016-08-14T05:06:53 < upgrdman> R2COM, not sure if youve seen it yet but this is my rig http://imgur.com/a/SKozc 2016-08-14T05:07:38 < zyp> I also have noctua 2016-08-14T05:07:54 < upgrdman> felt like a ripoff price, but i needed it to fit properly in my little case 2016-08-14T05:08:25 < zyp> I have stock cpu cooler though 2016-08-14T05:08:26 < upgrdman> i had some other one for a couple days, but it was not cutting it. rubbed up against the ram, and the ram block like half the airflow 2016-08-14T05:08:29 < zyp> but noctua case fans 2016-08-14T05:09:59 < zyp> upgrdman, case looks a bit impractical 2016-08-14T05:10:10 < upgrdman> works great 2016-08-14T05:10:12 < zyp> riser card ensures you can only fit one pcie card 2016-08-14T05:10:16 < upgrdman> but ya a bitch to setup 2016-08-14T05:10:25 < upgrdman> its an ITX mobo. onto one possible 2016-08-14T05:10:30 < upgrdman> only* 2016-08-14T05:10:34 < zyp> ah, fair 2016-08-14T05:11:05 < upgrdman> i wanted something super portable but with a full size gpu. this is the best i could find 2016-08-14T05:11:09 < zyp> so is the case designed to lie flat or stand upright? 2016-08-14T05:11:19 < upgrdman> and it needs to be portable in case i get china'd for a while :/ 2016-08-14T05:11:31 < upgrdman> both, it can go both ways. has a stand 2016-08-14T05:11:47 < upgrdman> https://www.techpowerup.com/img/15-06-02/38b.jpg 2016-08-14T05:11:56 < zyp> for itx I think I'd prefer the FT03-MINI 2016-08-14T05:12:05 < upgrdman> http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-202 2016-08-14T05:12:09 < zyp> I have the normal FT03 which fits matx 2016-08-14T05:12:34 < upgrdman> ya i like that cube style, but the ports at at the top. dust magnets! 2016-08-14T05:12:47 < zyp> ports on the top is why it's so awesome 2016-08-14T05:13:05 < zyp> ports on the back is such a hassle in comparison 2016-08-14T05:13:34 < upgrdman> i like side ports. which with my case vertical, i get :) 2016-08-14T05:14:14 < zyp> FT03 fits perfectly behind the monitor on a corner table, and then you can just stand up and reach over the monitor to plug/unplug stuff 2016-08-14T05:14:51 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/rRYHp.JPG <- old pic, from where I used to live 2016-08-14T05:18:08 < upgrdman> nice 2016-08-14T05:18:13 < upgrdman> i have a cheetah too 2016-08-14T05:18:16 < zyp> I wish there were more options shaped like that 2016-08-14T05:18:17 < upgrdman> never used it tho 2016-08-14T05:19:04 < zyp> I don't think FT03 is made anymore, and mine is kinda battered after I've brought it with me on a few flights in a shitty suitcase 2016-08-14T05:52:16 < upgrdman> is it just me or do all modern FPS games seem dark as fuck? 2016-08-14T05:52:35 < upgrdman> "omg its so fun! like 5 of the pixel are visible, the rest as black!" 2016-08-14T06:08:54 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-14T06:44:56 < Jak_o_Shadows> Hmm. I have the SDRAM working, and obviously it starts at the addr 0xd0000000. I want to have an array in the first (quite large) bytes of the sdram. How doI do that, syntactically, inC? 2016-08-14T06:45:10 < Jak_o_Shadows> Orshould I put it in the linker file somehow? 2016-08-14T06:45:35 < zyp> depends a bit how you want to do it 2016-08-14T06:46:15 < zyp> either you could use an attribute on the array to mark it for a custom section, then add that section to the linker script and place it in the sdram area 2016-08-14T06:46:39 < zyp> or you could just make a pointer to 0xd0000000 and treat that as your array 2016-08-14T06:47:06 < zyp> if that array is the only thing you're putting in sdram, the latter approach is much simpler 2016-08-14T06:47:50 < zyp> but if you're going to place multiple symbols there and want the linker to handle allocation, using a custom section could be worthwhile 2016-08-14T06:47:56 < Jak_o_Shadows> For the first method, that involves something in the linker script, then a new word, like 'extern', 'const', 'stati', etc? 2016-08-14T06:48:54 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-14T06:49:04 < zyp> in the C code, you'll mark the symbol with something like __attribute__((section(".extbss"))) 2016-08-14T06:49:19 < zyp> and then add an .extbss entry under SECTIONS in the linker script 2016-08-14T06:49:39 < zyp> you'll probably also want to add an sdram entry in MEMORY so that you can point .extbss there 2016-08-14T06:50:34 < zyp> oh, and if you want it to act like .bss (hence the name .extbss), you probably also want to zero-initialize the memory before you start using it 2016-08-14T06:51:38 < Jak_o_Shadows> Yeah. That does sound like what I want to do 2016-08-14T06:52:00 < Jak_o_Shadows> I have a priority queue later that it would be nice to be bigger 2016-08-14T06:52:28 < zyp> there's a third approach as well 2016-08-14T06:52:52 < zyp> you could put a heap there so you could allocate memory with something like malloc() 2016-08-14T06:53:29 < zyp> but it's probably not appropriate for what you want to do 2016-08-14T06:56:46 < Jak_o_Shadows> I did have some code that did use malloc, but I rewrote it to be all static 2016-08-14T06:57:17 < zyp> yeah, usually you can get by without 2016-08-14T07:07:36 < Jak_o_Shadows> Thanks 2016-08-14T07:08:18 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T07:38:15 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-14T07:44:47 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDzeXqlVi5A 2016-08-14T07:44:51 < ReadError> the LRH is on 2016-08-14T07:44:54 < ReadError> cuck up or cuck off 2016-08-14T07:56:09 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-14T07:58:24 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-14T07:59:49 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T08:04:16 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-14T08:04:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T08:24:32 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-2925094217.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T08:45:35 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T08:58:25 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T08:58:25 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-14T08:58:25 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T09:32:32 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-14T09:44:54 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T09:45:02 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T09:56:41 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T09:58:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.186] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T10:16:49 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T10:21:05 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFgAq3nE8l4 2016-08-14T10:21:11 < ReadError> this should be interesting 2016-08-14T10:23:05 < ReadError> nope its not 2016-08-14T10:29:28 < dongs> weev should have stayed in jail 2016-08-14T10:30:47 < ReadError> he will be a buttcoin millionaire soon 2016-08-14T10:30:52 < ReadError> after he sues the gov 2016-08-14T10:31:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T10:45:58 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-14T10:51:09 < owl-v-> is stm32f446 a better chip than f405 fand f407 ?? 2016-08-14T10:51:51 < owl-v-> the last revision of f446 is 'A' :P 2016-08-14T10:54:45 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T11:01:26 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-133-218.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-08-14T11:03:15 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-14T11:06:35 -!- lfas [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T11:07:07 < lfas> I saw a crc peripheral while configuring cubemx. Is this crc a hardware block or a software implementation? 2016-08-14T11:17:34 -!- _unreal_ [~lenovo@99-60-100-45.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-14T11:23:13 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-133-218.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T11:23:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T11:24:01 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T11:27:52 < Jak_o_Shadows> It's not a cubemx thing 2016-08-14T11:28:06 < Jak_o_Shadows> It's definitely in the datasheet for my stm32f429zit6 2016-08-14T11:32:07 < lfas> Jak_o_Shadows: thanks. it's a hardware thing 2016-08-14T11:32:44 -!- _unreal_ [~lenovo@99-60-100-45.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T11:39:06 < owl-v-> I see... the f446 have missing sram (ccm) 2016-08-14T11:59:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-14T12:00:49 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T12:01:05 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T12:03:42 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T12:07:31 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T12:59:59 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FS7C08U/ 2016-08-14T13:00:05 < ReadError> pretty srs biz 2016-08-14T13:00:47 < PeterM> nah trash 2016-08-14T13:03:08 < ReadError> heh tbh im pretty happy with my 50$ thing 2016-08-14T13:07:14 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-14T13:11:31 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T13:12:15 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T13:18:35 < PeterM> yeah, defs not worth 2500usd 2016-08-14T13:32:57 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I bet you pay for your electronics with cigarettes 2016-08-14T14:47:54 < Tectu> Laurenceb knows a great amount of australian history because he owns your ass 2016-08-14T14:48:01 < Tectu> or at least his Mrs. Queen does 2016-08-14T14:51:18 < Tectu> nah, She's TempleOS fanboy 2016-08-14T14:51:50 < PeterM> ohgod 2016-08-14T14:53:14 < Tectu> ask Laurenceb, he knows all about it 2016-08-14T14:53:31 < Tectu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCXER2BSR8o 2016-08-14T14:55:06 < Tectu> I have to say it's somewhat impressive though. 2016-08-14T15:00:40 < Tectu> can do 2016-08-14T15:00:43 < Tectu> also f7 2016-08-14T15:04:33 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d40b17.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T15:04:52 < dongs> templeos porting to F7?! 2016-08-14T15:05:14 < PeterM> https://youtu.be/-P52gGHPzSQ?t=915 2016-08-14T15:05:31 < PeterM> lol 2016-08-14T15:06:23 < dongs> wgat hte fucjk ius this 2016-08-14T15:06:30 < dongs> australian car wank 2016-08-14T15:06:42 < dongs> those cars look older than shit 2016-08-14T15:06:54 < Steffanx> It's a jappy car.. 2016-08-14T15:08:18 < PeterM> i jsut loled at the 10 extensions on it 2016-08-14T15:08:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d41608.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-14T15:13:18 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T15:16:02 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T15:16:56 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-14T15:17:26 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T15:20:33 -!- Palsson_ [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-14T15:23:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T15:24:45 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T15:45:04 < ReadError> dongs 2016-08-14T15:45:12 < ReadError> you got a pic of that one color that you had done 2016-08-14T15:45:20 < ReadError> but it was fucked up and like a purpleblue 2016-08-14T15:46:42 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-14T15:48:00 < PeterM> i dont know what you're referring to but i want to see it 2016-08-14T15:48:09 < ReadError> pcb color 2016-08-14T15:48:18 < ReadError> i think it was supposed to be pink but came out extra cool 2016-08-14T15:50:50 < dekar_> TempleOS is 64 bit only, though. 2016-08-14T15:54:05 < Tectu> why would you even know that...? 2016-08-14T16:02:25 < ReadError> holy shit 2016-08-14T16:02:31 < ReadError> this templeOS guy is insane 2016-08-14T16:02:41 < ReadError> god said 640x480 2016-08-14T16:04:03 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsf167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-14T16:04:38 < Tectu> http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Doc/FAQ.html#l1 2016-08-14T16:04:49 < Tectu> TempleOS uses a dialect of C/C++ called HolyC. 2016-08-14T16:05:58 < ReadError> he seems ill 2016-08-14T16:06:42 < Tectu> this one is pretty fun to read (the Q&A about 2/3 scrolled down): http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Adam/God/HSNotes.html 2016-08-14T16:07:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-14T16:07:47 < ReadError> Operating system? Was about to make line number column in editor. 2016-08-14T16:07:47 < ReadError> God nixed it. I was about to do different graphic modes when I found 800x600 2016-08-14T16:07:47 < ReadError> missing. God said just one mode 640x480. I was about to add child windows. God 2016-08-14T16:07:47 < ReadError> said, "God is not the author of such confusion." I asked for verification of 2016-08-14T16:07:47 < ReadError> 640x480 16 color. God said it was because of the children and their offerings. 2016-08-14T16:07:48 < ReadError> I asked about sound. God said "single voice". I asked for verification of not 2016-08-14T16:07:48 < ReadError> having different drivers. God confirmed this. 2016-08-14T16:07:49 < ReadError> 640x480 16 color? God said it was a covenant, like circumcision. 2016-08-14T16:10:41 < ReadError> lol why is he going on about the fbi and pedophiles 2016-08-14T16:11:59 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T16:12:58 < BrainDamage> come on, you're in this channel for a while, you should have decent familiarity with deranged mental individuals 2016-08-14T16:14:52 < dongs> holyC, haha 2016-08-14T16:14:52 < ReadError> also birds are the worst pets 2016-08-14T16:14:53 < dekar_> LOL, check his blog: http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Home/Web/TAD/DailyBlog.html 2016-08-14T16:15:13 < ReadError> We beat the nigger because he thinks TempleOS is real mode. 2016-08-14T16:15:15 < ReadError> is this real?? 2016-08-14T16:15:18 < ReadError> wtf hahah 2016-08-14T16:16:15 < dongs> http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Home/Web/Imgs/ToTheFront.BMP this is a tank war game 2016-08-14T16:16:18 < dongs> also lol @ .BMP 2016-08-14T16:16:33 < Fleck> he is getting worse, looks like 2016-08-14T16:17:37 < Tectu> ReadError, how come you haven't heard of that yet? 2016-08-14T16:17:56 < ReadError> this dude is a heavy blogger 2016-08-14T16:18:01 < Tectu> ReadError, dongs and Laurenceb are blogging about that here like twice a year 2016-08-14T16:18:04 < ReadError> look how many updates for today lol 2016-08-14T16:18:30 < Tectu> why on earth does he have tank games and stuff if he's so religious? 2016-08-14T16:18:45 < Tectu> gotta spread the word I guess 2016-08-14T16:19:22 < ReadError> read the first paragraph in the blog 2016-08-14T16:19:27 < ReadError> is a person typing this?? 2016-08-14T16:20:25 < dekar_> "War? "Servicemen competing" (Praise the Creator--what would teenage male video games be like if never war?)" 2016-08-14T16:20:34 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T16:21:02 < Tectu> I wonder how that guy is in real life. 2016-08-14T16:21:13 < Tectu> pumpin' hard? 2016-08-14T16:22:11 < ReadError> probably gets gov $$$ to stay away from society 2016-08-14T16:22:23 < ReadError> throw him some grants and make him think hes doing something important 2016-08-14T16:23:11 < Tectu> I bet he's your neighbor or something 2016-08-14T16:24:56 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsf167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T16:25:29 < Tectu> ReadError, also, is that actually a thing? getting gov money to stay away from people? 2016-08-14T16:25:42 < ReadError> Tectu it should be 2016-08-14T16:25:53 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-14T16:26:49 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T16:30:39 < ReadError> Linux is a semi-tractor -- you need professional drivers for 20 gears. Linux 2016-08-14T16:30:39 < ReadError> has file permissions. Common people are hurt by file permissions. 2016-08-14T16:30:39 < ReadError> Windows is a car. 2016-08-14T16:30:43 < ReadError> so much content 2016-08-14T16:33:41 < Fleck> there is a sad story behing all that :( 2016-08-14T16:34:37 < ReadError> tell me uncle Fleck 2016-08-14T16:34:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-14T16:37:00 < Tectu> templeOS kinda reminds me of this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/973736766/the-cybermatrix-100-tu01/description 2016-08-14T16:37:12 < Tectu> also +1 crt 2016-08-14T16:37:46 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsf167.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-14T16:47:40 < Tectu> wb R2COM 2016-08-14T16:47:43 < Tectu> long time no see 2016-08-14T16:48:08 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-14T16:48:37 < Tectu> I'm very emotional and sensitive. You leaving w/o saying when you're back kinda hurt me. 2016-08-14T16:48:44 < Tectu> did a lot of crying the past few days 2016-08-14T16:49:29 < Tectu> but seriously, were you gone-ish because of the kick/ban from Steffanx? 2016-08-14T16:50:51 -!- mra90 [~Martin@buz226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T16:51:20 < Tectu> oh, okay 2016-08-14T16:51:26 < Tectu> how did that go? 2016-08-14T16:51:52 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T16:52:04 < Tectu> and break it along the way? 2016-08-14T16:53:48 < ReadError> u moved in the same city? 2016-08-14T16:54:28 < Tectu> you're in the US too, right? 2016-08-14T16:54:34 < ReadError> I thought u wanted to go be fabulous in sanfran 2016-08-14T16:54:46 < Tectu> how is Mr. Trump these days? 2016-08-14T16:54:55 < ReadError> Tectu digging his hole 2016-08-14T16:55:17 < Tectu> ReadError, for real? Last time I heard that he got quite some folks behind him 2016-08-14T16:55:26 < ReadError> Tectu thats all fading 2016-08-14T16:55:33 < ReadError> hes losing his #1 demographic 2016-08-14T16:55:40 < ReadError> white males w/o college education 2016-08-14T16:55:54 < Tectu> why is he loosing them, ReadError ? 2016-08-14T16:56:05 < ReadError> Tectu cuz hes retarded 2016-08-14T16:56:43 < ReadError> hes in shit for saying "people should use their 2nd amendment right against hillary' 2016-08-14T16:56:45 < Tectu> better get george back 2016-08-14T16:56:46 < Tectu> or abe 2016-08-14T16:57:00 < ReadError> lol GWB 2016-08-14T16:57:01 < ReadError> gtfo 2016-08-14T16:57:09 < ReadError> ill take Bill 2016-08-14T16:57:14 < dongs> R2COM: have you pirated nomans sky yet. its fucking awful 2016-08-14T16:57:27 < Tectu> (wasn't that serious, if that wasn't clear, ReadError :D ) 2016-08-14T16:57:30 < dongs> i think that went from install to shift-del as fast as mirrors edge 2016-08-14T16:57:41 < dongs> R2COM: its fucking mind-numbingly boring 2016-08-14T16:57:46 < Tectu> dongs, I just came across that a few minutes ago. was wondering if I should go for it or not. 2016-08-14T16:57:49 < Tectu> dongs, no-go then? 2016-08-14T16:57:50 < dongs> grind grind grind reload some shit grind some more 2016-08-14T16:58:02 < dongs> Tectu: if you wanna buy it, wait until its in the bins for <$10 2016-08-14T16:58:14 < Tectu> okay, thanks 2016-08-14T16:58:19 < Tectu> but wasn't that quite hyped? 2016-08-14T16:58:21 < Tectu> gotta be good 2016-08-14T16:58:23 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-14T16:58:27 < dongs> also its awful on release 2016-08-14T16:58:30 < dongs> shitload of bugs 2016-08-14T16:58:35 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-14T16:58:38 < dongs> gpu glitches etc 2016-08-14T16:58:57 < Tectu> I bet 28 DLCs in 5 days 2016-08-14T16:59:08 < dongs> lol 2016-08-14T17:00:18 < dongs> anyway, complete shit 2016-08-14T17:00:21 < dongs> like 5 minutes into the game 2016-08-14T17:00:23 < dongs> you have to WALK 2016-08-14T17:00:26 < dongs> for 2.5 minutes 2016-08-14T17:00:31 < dongs> to some checkpoint to get some trash 2016-08-14T17:00:38 < dongs> and then the graphics glitched out 2016-08-14T17:00:41 < dongs> and there's no savegames of course 2016-08-14T17:00:47 < dongs> and the only way to fix game is restart it 2016-08-14T17:00:51 < dongs> then you gotta re-walk 2.5minutes again 2016-08-14T17:01:16 < Tectu> gotta kill 'em terrorists 4 realz 2016-08-14T17:01:20 < dongs> crt: thankfully I just downloaded some drm-free webversion of it 2016-08-14T17:01:25 < dongs> and the best part 2016-08-14T17:01:38 < dongs> i installed it on network share, like z:\games\nocuckland right 2016-08-14T17:01:46 < dongs> but i also put the original .rar files in same f older 2016-08-14T17:01:52 < dongs> cuz i didnt wanna make 2 for useless shit 2016-08-14T17:01:55 < dongs> so when I went to uninstall it 2016-08-14T17:02:00 < dongs> the uninstalled nuked that entire folder 2016-08-14T17:02:03 < dongs> including the install .rars 2016-08-14T17:02:10 < dongs> so it basicalyl solved the problem of me ever wanting to paly it again 2016-08-14T17:02:21 < Tectu> R2COM, Steffanx has 268 2016-08-14T17:02:27 < dongs> uninstalled=uninstaller 2016-08-14T17:02:42 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T17:04:36 < dongs> anyway my steam-playing pal got it for $18 2016-08-14T17:04:44 < dongs> and i dont think its even worth that 2016-08-14T17:05:02 < Tectu> dongs, he got no man's sky for 18 bucks? 2016-08-14T17:05:07 < dongs> y 2016-08-14T17:05:10 < Tectu> haw? 2016-08-14T17:05:19 < dongs> no fucking idea. i dont steam. 2016-08-14T17:05:50 < dongs> > i paid $18 for it 2016-08-14T17:06:05 < dongs> without details 2016-08-14T17:08:08 < Steffanx> Tectu, don't forget the add the hours from before it was a steam game 2016-08-14T17:08:19 < Steffanx> they you probably have 3 times more? :P 2016-08-14T17:08:20 < Tectu> Steffanx, well, then I probably have like 800 :p 2016-08-14T17:08:24 < Tectu> yeah :p 2016-08-14T17:08:44 < Tectu> better get drugs 2016-08-14T17:09:34 < Tectu> then you are doing it wrong I guess 2016-08-14T17:09:39 < Tectu> better ask ReadError 4 helpz 2016-08-14T17:10:11 < Tectu> I can get you some cheese & chocolate if you want. 2016-08-14T17:10:33 < Steffanx> Cheese, you probably are not allowed to sent that to aussieland. 2016-08-14T17:14:42 < ReadError> damn ISIS is getting good with the video work 2016-08-14T17:15:36 < Tectu> didn't you hear, ReadError? They got a new Mac Pro 2016-08-14T17:15:40 < Tectu> rendering really fast now 2016-08-14T17:16:04 < ReadError> Tectu i hackintosh 2016-08-14T17:16:13 < Tectu> fool. 2016-08-14T17:19:31 < ReadError> why not both 2016-08-14T17:19:56 < ReadError> 2 pc 2016-08-14T17:20:13 < ReadError> synergy 2016-08-14T17:20:17 < Rob235> I hackintoshed when I made my first iOS app, now I'm on my second mbp dual booting (with windows usually running in vmware) 2016-08-14T17:20:25 < Steffanx> It's clear only the best do hackintosh. 2016-08-14T17:20:39 < ReadError> lol do you Steffanx ? 2016-08-14T17:20:42 < Steffanx> yes 2016-08-14T17:20:46 < ReadError> nice 2016-08-14T17:20:55 < ReadError> im about to try and SLI mine 2016-08-14T17:20:56 < Tectu> fools. 2016-08-14T17:21:15 < ReadError> ive read mixed things about the driver support 2016-08-14T17:22:18 < BrainDamage> >ended up using windows and forgetting about ohsix 2016-08-14T17:22:38 < Steffanx> Should i invite in back in to here? 2016-08-14T17:22:43 < Steffanx> *him 2016-08-14T17:22:51 < ReadError> doubt he will come back 2016-08-14T17:23:00 < Rob235> who is he? 2016-08-14T17:23:02 < Steffanx> auto join on invite would be funny. 2016-08-14T17:23:09 < ReadError> lol try it 2016-08-14T17:23:17 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T17:23:21 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T17:23:21 < Tectu> done 2016-08-14T17:23:27 < Steffanx> no auto join. 2016-08-14T17:23:37 < Rob235> who we talkin about 2016-08-14T17:23:40 < Steffanx> o6 2016-08-14T17:23:43 < dongs> ... 2016-08-14T17:23:47 < Rob235> ohhh 2016-08-14T17:23:51 < ReadError> six 2016-08-14T17:23:51 < Steffanx> 6 2016-08-14T17:23:53 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-14T17:24:03 < Steffanx> dongs hates us for doing this. 2016-08-14T17:24:13 < Rob235> spread the love! 2016-08-14T17:24:19 < Tectu> but rubber 2016-08-14T17:25:02 < Rob235> hmmm I lost my arduino 2016-08-14T17:25:14 < Tectu> lol, did kakimir make o6 go mad? 2016-08-14T17:25:31 < mitrax> Tectu: nah he went mad by himself 2016-08-14T17:25:59 < Rob235> heh, ive got a few stm32 boards but I'm not wasting them on this simple project 2016-08-14T17:26:46 < Tectu> Rob235, what do you need? 2016-08-14T17:27:17 < mitrax> Tectu: he got pissed when he finally realized half the people he addressed had him on ignore 2016-08-14T17:27:31 < Tectu> mitrax, ah, I see 2016-08-14T17:27:31 < Steffanx> half = probably 3 of 4. 2016-08-14T17:27:32 < Tectu> I wasn't there 2016-08-14T17:27:51 < dongs> you can enjoy your autistic chats in /privmsg 2016-08-14T17:28:12 < Steffanx> lol dongs. I'm still amazed by the fact that YOU have such issues with it 2016-08-14T17:28:13 < Rob235> I just want to stick a box with an arduino and a IR led a foot or two above my headboard with wires coming down to a tiny little thing with a few buttons to control my tv (power, ch+-, vol+-) mainly to have a quick TV off switch for when going to bed 2016-08-14T17:29:18 < BrainDamage> they are called remote controls, and they are a thing since few decades 2016-08-14T17:29:39 < Rob235> yes but I always lose mine or its on the other side of the room :) 2016-08-14T17:29:46 < Steffanx> so is mr d probably, and mr L., crt. 2016-08-14T17:29:53 < Steffanx> Noticed you are on the official ignore list as well? 2016-08-14T17:29:53 < Rob235> when I want to go to sleep it would be nice to just hit this switch: http://imgur.com/a/nwpUt 2016-08-14T17:29:58 < BrainDamage> you can buy a second, it'll be cheaper and faster to diy one 2016-08-14T17:30:15 < Steffanx> My phone can control my receiver. What else you want? 2016-08-14T17:30:24 < Rob235> yes but through IR 2016-08-14T17:30:26 < Rob235> mine too 2016-08-14T17:30:32 < Rob235> line of sight is a bitch 2016-08-14T17:30:32 < Steffanx> no, wifi. 2016-08-14T17:30:34 < Rob235> ohh 2016-08-14T17:30:39 < Rob235> thats different then 2016-08-14T17:30:58 < Rob235> but still, you gotta unlock your phone, open the app... 2016-08-14T17:31:10 < Rob235> after grabbing your phone... 2016-08-14T17:31:20 < Steffanx> check jpa- logs crt :P 2016-08-14T17:31:20 < Rob235> this button will always be fixed right behind me :) 2016-08-14T17:31:34 < Rob235> I have all the parts, I'm not wasting money on it 2016-08-14T17:34:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T17:34:54 < Laurenceb__> the tube of crt 2016-08-14T17:35:01 < Steffanx> me neither, sometimes it just easier to ctrl+c in that log then my own logs. 2016-08-14T17:35:06 < Steffanx> *ctrl+f 2016-08-14T17:35:36 < Rob235> *cmd+f 2016-08-14T17:35:39 < Steffanx> *it's 2016-08-14T17:35:45 < Laurenceb__> omg 2016-08-14T17:35:49 * Laurenceb__ leads liveleak 2016-08-14T17:35:50 < Steffanx> who says i use an apple keyboard Rob235? 2016-08-14T17:35:54 < Laurenceb__> *loads 2016-08-14T17:35:56 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-14T17:36:07 < Steffanx> but i do. 2016-08-14T17:36:07 < dongs> http://www.theage.com.au/national/i-am-an-artist-man-who-makes-child-sex-dolls-for-paedophiles-20160812-gqr1ew.html lol 2016-08-14T17:36:17 < dongs> crt, RIP your side hustle huh 2016-08-14T17:36:20 < Laurenceb__> s/artist/autist 2016-08-14T17:36:30 < Laurenceb__> lul try that in UK you would go to prison 2016-08-14T17:36:49 < Laurenceb__> in fact even this chat log would prob get me in jail 2016-08-14T17:37:06 < Laurenceb__> truecript ftw 2016-08-14T17:37:11 < ReadError> oh jap 2016-08-14T17:37:30 < ReadError> Trottla founder Shin Takagi has described himself and most of his male clients as paedophiles, although he said he has never acted on these impulses. He said the dolls can "substitute a human girl". 2016-08-14T17:37:39 < ReadError> sounds jap 2016-08-14T17:37:50 < dongs> haha 2016-08-14T17:38:22 < Laurenceb__> wai waifu 2016-08-14T17:38:24 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of ##stm32 to: STM32 | Crap dump 2016-08-14T17:38:51 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-14T17:39:44 < Laurenceb__> in shocking developments, chris-chan once had an irl grrrlfriend https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/5/57/0706-CWCMegan1.jpg/180px-0706-CWCMegan1.jpg 2016-08-14T17:42:49 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of ##stm32 to: STM32 | Crap dump | Laurenceb officially in love with Chris-Chan now 2016-08-14T17:44:15 < mitrax> am i the only one for whom Laurenceb's references are completely obscure? 2016-08-14T17:44:47 < mitrax> i'm starting to worry :( 2016-08-14T17:45:27 < Steffanx> I only know he is totally obsesses with this guy. 2016-08-14T17:46:49 < Rob235> http://bit.ly/2aSshlA 2016-08-14T17:47:29 < Rob235> I had to look it up mitrax 2016-08-14T17:47:58 < mitrax> Rob235: phew, ok 2016-08-14T17:53:05 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of ##stm32 to: STM32 | This channel is publicly logged ( http://xob.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stm32/ ) | IRC wisdom: https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips | Don't ask to ask | http://essentialscrap.com/tips/stm32prices/ 2016-08-14T17:54:11 -!- lfas [~helpme8@unaffiliated/helpme8] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 2016-08-14T17:57:41 < Laurenceb__> we all know chris-chan is the mascot of all irc users, don't try to deny it 2016-08-14T18:02:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T18:06:44 < Laurenceb__> But seriously, just fucking stop this kinda personal issues with this guy you have or i will help you stop. 2016-08-14T18:06:46 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-14T18:07:13 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T18:07:16 -!- mode/##stm32 [+b *!~laurence@81.141.246.*] by Steffanx 2016-08-14T18:07:16 -!- Laurenceb__ was kicked from ##stm32 by Steffanx [Laurenceb__] 2016-08-14T18:07:42 < dongs> blogged out 2016-08-14T18:08:16 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx 2016-08-14T18:17:09 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T18:17:27 -!- mode/##stm32 [+b *!~laurence@*.ac.uk] by Steffanx 2016-08-14T18:17:27 -!- Laurenceb was kicked from ##stm32 by Steffanx [Laurenceb] 2016-08-14T18:17:35 < dongs> :( 2016-08-14T18:17:42 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx 2016-08-14T18:17:49 < dongs> so radical and you let ohsix assburger in hre for a monthn+ 2016-08-14T18:19:38 < Steffanx> He wasn't harassing/making fun of people all the time. Asked laurence in private to stop it, asked him less nicely to stop it 2016-08-14T18:19:46 < dongs> mkay 2016-08-14T18:19:53 < Steffanx> which then gets posted here. Then im really done with it. 2016-08-14T18:20:35 < Steffanx> If it can't happen in a nice way then there is only one thing left. 2016-08-14T18:21:09 < ReadError> Steffanx dont ban me 2016-08-14T18:21:21 < ReadError> can i paste something 2016-08-14T18:21:25 < ReadError> its original 2016-08-14T18:21:29 < dongs> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2368669/ wtf 2016-08-14T18:21:35 < dongs> found this on jap amazon prime 2016-08-14T18:21:38 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/dX1NHYw.png did criss angel get a boobjob? 2016-08-14T18:21:46 < ReadError> im watching a show about DRONES 2016-08-14T18:22:10 < Steffanx> It's not really about the offtopic, it's about the crap, endlessly making fun of certain people and when he is asked to stop he wont. 2016-08-14T18:22:56 < dongs> dont even know what hte fuck crischan is but doesnt sound funny at all 2016-08-14T18:23:02 < Steffanx> It's almost like some bad cancer that has grown over the years here in ##stm32 . I guess it was time to remove that. 2016-08-14T18:23:10 < ReadError> Steffanx it really hurts me when dongs calls me a 'cloner' 2016-08-14T18:23:16 < dongs> lawl 2016-08-14T18:23:43 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T18:26:06 < dongs> don't forget http://cloner.pro/ 2016-08-14T18:26:57 < ReadError> help you stop? 2016-08-14T18:27:08 < ReadError> god damn mousewheel 2016-08-14T18:27:16 < Steffanx> but at least ReadError is here to tell you to fuck off. 2016-08-14T18:27:39 < ReadError> dongs show me that pic plz 2016-08-14T18:31:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.3] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T18:33:00 < dekar_> Steffanx, what did I miss? Why are we banning people now? I'm back from China btw :) 2016-08-14T18:33:33 < dongs> lols 2016-08-14T18:43:58 < zyp> karlp, oh, fuck, I just realized why you didn't get that laks stuff working the other day 2016-08-14T18:44:17 < zyp> karlp, http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/commit/?id=18c6362 2016-08-14T18:45:04 < zyp> you're now required to call rcc_init() yourself to turn on pll and everything, I took that out of startup code so that firmware can choose not to 2016-08-14T18:45:17 < jpa-> i just noticed that i hadn't noticed zyp's realname before 2016-08-14T18:45:23 < jpa-> so very skandinaviska 2016-08-14T18:45:27 < zyp> haha 2016-08-14T18:45:35 < ReadError> i just registered a great domain 2016-08-14T18:45:37 < ReadError> 4the.lol 2016-08-14T18:46:33 < zyp> karlp, so since PLL is not running, 48MHz clock is not generated, which probably means that part of the usb block is not running, leaving firmware to get stuck on waiting for some operation there to complete 2016-08-14T18:47:07 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-14T18:47:11 < Tectu> four days wasted 2016-08-14T18:47:11 < Tectu> gj mate 2016-08-14T18:47:17 < dongs> 4 days? 2016-08-14T18:47:21 < dongs> wasnt he wasting like weeks on this shit 2016-08-14T18:47:30 < Tectu> now I understand why they don't have pre-compiled OpenGL version binaries anymore like they used to 2016-08-14T18:47:47 < Tectu> anyway, good that you figured how to fuck things 2016-08-14T18:48:04 < Tectu> fuck qwt 2016-08-14T18:48:15 < Tectu> fuck qwt 2016-08-14T18:48:23 < Tectu> http://qcustomplot.com/ 2016-08-14T18:49:08 < Tectu> interesting 2016-08-14T18:49:13 < Tectu> got some demo vid to show the goods? 2016-08-14T18:49:22 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T18:49:49 < Tectu> okay :) 2016-08-14T18:50:00 < Tectu> well I never fucked with OpenGL except the OpenGL widget in uGFX 2016-08-14T18:50:14 < Tectu> cuz everybody needs OpenGL on F4 2016-08-14T18:50:24 < Tectu> but glad to hear that you have your stuff working now, Mr. R2COM 2016-08-14T18:56:08 < Tectu> R2COM, msvc is always a bit a pain 2016-08-14T18:56:19 < Tectu> although MinGW is full of shit it at least works with all the Qt stuff 2016-08-14T18:56:24 < Tectu> well, except the new QtWebEngine 2016-08-14T18:56:50 -!- readerr [~root@162.248.162.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T18:57:06 -!- readerr [~root@162.248.162.172] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-14T18:57:38 -!- readerr [~root@did.it.4the.lol] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T19:02:31 < Tectu> MinGW has tons of bugs 2016-08-14T19:02:39 < Tectu> I mainly develop my Qt stuff on Windows 2016-08-14T19:02:45 < Tectu> w/o MSYS 2016-08-14T19:03:01 < Tectu> I stopped using MSYS2 once I realized that you can't properly symlink stuff 2016-08-14T19:03:42 < Tectu> well, why not? I have four different cygwin, one msys2 and a mingw installation on my win10 dev machine 2016-08-14T19:04:12 < Tectu> depends on your setup 2016-08-14T19:04:16 < Tectu> I don't have those in my systems PATH 2016-08-14T19:05:41 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T19:09:00 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-14T19:09:13 < Tectu> but you can of course put the bin dir in your PATH 2016-08-14T19:13:37 < Tectu> well, no reason to keep something you don't use 2016-08-14T19:13:45 < Tectu> you can always istall it later again if you need it 2016-08-14T19:15:10 < Tectu> alternative for cygwin 2016-08-14T19:15:14 < Tectu> cuz cygwin kinda sucks sometimes 2016-08-14T19:15:36 < Tectu> compiling lots of unix stuff for my windows machine 2016-08-14T19:15:44 < Tectu> also regular stuff like ssh "client" 2016-08-14T19:15:55 < Tectu> like shit I write 2016-08-14T19:15:58 < Tectu> also stuff like doxygen 2016-08-14T19:15:59 < Tectu> and so on 2016-08-14T19:16:01 < Tectu> vim 2016-08-14T19:16:04 < Tectu> lots of stuff 2016-08-14T19:16:10 < Tectu> I don't keep a history of shit I use 2016-08-14T19:16:32 < Tectu> also uGFX-Studio uses cygwin to build platform native applications 2016-08-14T19:17:11 < Tectu> also git 2016-08-14T19:17:27 < Tectu> and as an environment for my ARM crap 2016-08-14T19:17:52 < Tectu> no, I just listed many other things, didn't I? 2016-08-14T19:18:35 < Tectu> depends on what you do 2016-08-14T19:18:35 < Tectu> http://ugfx.io/pricing.html 2016-08-14T19:18:46 < Tectu> home, hobby and educational stuff is all free 2016-08-14T19:18:51 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T19:18:53 < Tectu> also all open source projects 2016-08-14T19:19:08 < Tectu> just closed commercial "I earn money with my product" pay a little $$ 2016-08-14T19:19:31 < Tectu> STemWin 2016-08-14T19:20:35 < Tectu> and closed 2016-08-14T19:20:37 < Tectu> and crappy 2016-08-14T19:20:57 < Tectu> it's very limiting 2016-08-14T19:21:10 < Tectu> that's because I'm not a designer. all the crap in uGFX is completely customizable 2016-08-14T19:21:32 < Tectu> the default renderers are crappy so they run on even the lowest power system 2016-08-14T19:21:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-14T19:21:53 < Steffanx> STemWin, how different is that actually from emWin? It's a partnership as in: ST wrote a platform/display driver? 2016-08-14T19:22:11 < Tectu> you can write your own: https://wiki.ugfx.io/index.php/Creating_a_custom_rendering_routine 2016-08-14T19:22:18 < Tectu> STemWin is just rebranded emWin 2016-08-14T19:22:21 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d418b7.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T19:23:08 < Tectu> R2COM, almost all commercial customers write their own widget rendering functions cuz ours sucks (50% on purpose, 50% cuz we ain't no freaking designers) 2016-08-14T19:24:11 < Tectu> R2COM, also, just adjusting the color palette makes already huge differences: https://community.ugfx.io/uploads/monthly_2016_02/redacom_01.png.95c6ce1f4cc6818e09d4613688ae0e2f.png 2016-08-14T19:24:27 < Tectu> also this: https://community.ugfx.io/uploads/monthly_2016_02/king_02.png.cd76f2cd1571ef8e495062f587406ad3.png 2016-08-14T19:25:01 < Tectu> yeah that is unlimited including updates and stuff 2016-08-14T19:25:32 < Tectu> nah, only people that do customized equipment stuff purchase those 2016-08-14T19:26:06 < Tectu> eg we have companies that do some satelite communication uplink devices that are like 50k each and they only do like 20 a year. 2016-08-14T19:26:20 < Tectu> because that's from a russian user :p 2016-08-14T19:26:23 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d40b17.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-14T19:26:33 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-14T19:27:02 < Tectu> what do you mean? 2016-08-14T19:27:46 < Tectu> well they have a lot fancier widget renderings 2016-08-14T19:27:50 < Tectu> but you can't change much there 2016-08-14T19:28:18 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-14T19:28:22 < Tectu> afk fooding, brb 20min 2016-08-14T19:28:50 < Tectu> I have a list of feedback from engineers that evaluated different libraries and picked uGFX at the end, I can show you later 2016-08-14T19:29:00 < Tectu> cu 2016-08-14T19:53:48 -!- readerr [~root@did.it.4the.lol] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-14T19:54:24 -!- mode/##stm32 [-bb *!~laurence@81.141.246.* *!~laurence@*.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T19:56:55 < dongs> what a dumb domain 2016-08-14T19:57:06 < dongs> about as original as majority of readcloner creations 2016-08-14T19:57:31 < ReadError> oh yea i should build kawaiicharge 2016-08-14T19:57:34 < ReadError> originalclone 2016-08-14T19:57:51 < ReadError> dat life 2016-08-14T19:58:50 < ReadError> https://photos.smugmug.com/Quads/i-qTqCNHb/0/X3/CA_08131610505919-X3.jpg this 2016-08-14T19:59:20 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivglsepxlwgbribm] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T20:00:02 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T20:00:29 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by ChanServ 2016-08-14T20:04:22 < Steffanx> Im still not sure how this works ReadError. It's the same pc, and then the back and the front? 2016-08-14T20:04:35 < dekar__> I'd like to know how all of you feel about restricting speech at ##stm32. Particularly if you'd prefer less hate speech, or more freedom of speech. Please take a vote: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=57b0a2d7e4b0e1305341c1e9 2016-08-14T20:04:43 < ReadError> same pc? 2016-08-14T20:04:51 < ReadError> ohh pcb 2016-08-14T20:04:54 < ReadError> yea, same pcb 2016-08-14T20:05:08 < ReadError> but when you flip one they ChainGang(tm) 2016-08-14T20:05:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T20:07:07 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of ##stm32 to: STM32 | This channel is publicly logged ( http://xob.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stm32/ ) | Please take a vote: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=57b0a2d7e4b0e1305341c1e9 2016-08-14T20:07:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T20:08:01 < Laurenceb__> ooh hello 2016-08-14T20:08:41 < ReadError> Steffanx the problem with that vote is it contradicts itself 2016-08-14T20:09:02 < Steffanx> Uh why ReadError? 2016-08-14T20:09:26 < ReadError> well, its open to interpretation rather 2016-08-14T20:09:49 < ReadError> where the line is drawn, whats considered offensive 2016-08-14T20:11:32 < Laurenceb__> lulwut hate speech 2016-08-14T20:11:56 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T20:11:57 < Steffanx> True ReadError, but it's not a vote to set the line, but it's a more question if there should be any line. 2016-08-14T20:12:55 < zyp> there's always a line, the hard part is figuring out where to draw it 2016-08-14T20:12:58 < ReadError> maybe "Restrict hate speech and attacks against individuals and/or groups of people" 2016-08-14T20:13:21 < ReadError> that covers race/religion/etc 2016-08-14T20:15:50 < Steffanx> and, yes.. where the line should be is probably a question for later zyp. 2016-08-14T20:18:22 < Steffanx> Nah ReadError, we did try to leave it open a bit. Maybe it makes the question a bit too open, but .. it's hard to set a line in just a single yes/no question. 2016-08-14T20:19:47 < Laurenceb__> help help I'm being oppressed 2016-08-14T20:20:05 < Laurenceb__> on the + side, nobody can troll me either 2016-08-14T20:20:09 < Laurenceb__> b& 2016-08-14T20:20:38 < BrainDamage> you're sufficiently frustrated on your own tbh 2016-08-14T20:21:58 < Laurenceb__> self trollage 2016-08-14T20:22:49 < Laurenceb__> tiem for ##stm33 ? 2016-08-14T20:27:21 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-14T20:27:31 < zyp> yeah, trying to introduce any rigid rules here is just going to kill the channel 2016-08-14T20:28:19 < Steffanx> and thay should be a reason to accept anything? 2016-08-14T20:28:32 < zyp> no 2016-08-14T20:28:45 < Steffanx> i mean, some of the stuff discussed here is probably even against server policies. 2016-08-14T20:28:57 < Steffanx> *network 2016-08-14T20:29:07 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS_1bzaj2fw 2016-08-14T20:30:34 < zyp> it's okay to throw out people that are acting out, but you don't have to make it into a nazi regime 2016-08-14T20:30:48 < Steffanx> and also wonder why some people can behave in the other channels they are in and yet cannot do it here. 2016-08-14T20:32:06 -!- Taxman [~sk@chaph.opaya.de] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-14T20:32:48 < Steffanx> oh, act totally differently. behave is probably different. 2016-08-14T20:33:01 < Steffanx> *the wrong word. 2016-08-14T20:34:22 < zyp> why? 2016-08-14T20:34:36 < Steffanx> ok, just do your vote and after that we could discuss futher. 2016-08-14T20:35:55 < zyp> because freedom of speech doesn't imply freedom to make anybody listen to you 2016-08-14T20:36:24 < zyp> I also have kick button, what's wrong with using it? 2016-08-14T20:37:55 < zyp> ignoring people is stupid, you get onesided conversations of other people talking to them 2016-08-14T20:37:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T20:38:19 < Fleck> not if you have kids around who look into your monitor 2016-08-14T20:39:06 < Fleck> and suddenly - my freedom is gone because of your freedom... 2016-08-14T20:39:54 < mitrax> you could also not let your kids look at your computer screen... 2016-08-14T20:40:11 < Tectu> +1 2016-08-14T20:40:17 < zyp> it's text chat, big deal 2016-08-14T20:40:23 < Tectu> if you have your kids read your ##stm32 then you are doing it wrong anyway 2016-08-14T20:40:42 < Tectu> also what zyp said 2016-08-14T20:40:44 < Tectu> also hi zyp o/ 2016-08-14T20:41:33 < zyp> heh, why do you say hi now, when we've both been around for hours? 2016-08-14T20:41:41 < Fleck> so I should keep kids out of my room? Looks like there are no fathers talking... 2016-08-14T20:42:01 < Fleck> or twitch and fast minimize irc window, right? 2016-08-14T20:42:06 < Tectu> zyp, I didn't notice you before, sorry 2016-08-14T20:42:29 < zyp> Fleck, exactly what do you worry about? 2016-08-14T20:44:10 < Tectu> probably IRC text burns into retinas and has after effects, not sure 2016-08-14T20:44:10 < Fleck> I worry about questions: dad, what does fu*** mean? and sometimes even worse words pop up here 2016-08-14T20:44:18 < Tectu> just don't click any auf Laurenceb's links and your kids will be fine 2016-08-14T20:44:54 < Fleck> so yeah - ignore is my only option here 2016-08-14T20:45:35 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/Aviditi-Corrugated-Literature-Mailer-Length/dp/B00BT5IUG6/ oh nice 2016-08-14T20:45:36 < Tectu> I am still wondering why your kids would read your IRC stuff, fleck. I mean a twitch stream you catch up easily by walking into a room, but text chat... ?! 2016-08-14T20:45:41 < ReadError> no more re-using mouser boxes 2016-08-14T20:45:52 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T20:46:10 < Tectu> ReadError, lol, did you just discover that you can purchase empty boxes? 2016-08-14T20:46:26 < ReadError> Tectu i knew i could, i just never knew they where called 'literature boxes' 2016-08-14T20:46:31 < Steffanx> 50c/box, can't do it cheaper ReadError? 2016-08-14T20:46:40 < ReadError> Steffanx not w/o bulk + effort 2016-08-14T20:46:44 < Tectu> ReadError, they aren't. These are because they fit books 2016-08-14T20:46:48 < zyp> Fleck, uh, good luck trying to shield kids from swearing 2016-08-14T20:46:49 < ReadError> R2COM the '1click' button 2016-08-14T20:47:34 < ReadError> i keep my parts in them, works well 2016-08-14T20:47:41 < Fleck> cause they are curious? Sometimes kid just walks in room and stays byside me and just looks what I am doing, you know, but I guess you won't get it. 2016-08-14T20:48:37 < zyp> I was a curious kid, I get it 2016-08-14T20:48:41 < zyp> I just don't see the harm 2016-08-14T20:48:55 < ReadError> i was on irc as a kid, i turned out fine 2016-08-14T20:48:56 < ReadError> right 2016-08-14T20:48:59 < Tectu> same here 2016-08-14T20:49:00 < Fleck> me too, if parents swear too 2016-08-14T20:49:16 < Fleck> but grep your logs and see, I never do 2016-08-14T20:49:23 < ReadError> you are russian, probably drinking vodka by 4 2016-08-14T20:49:24 < Tectu> I don't have kids or so but I doubt that it makes a difference whether your kid reads "lazy dick" with 5 or 10 years. 2016-08-14T20:49:33 < Steffanx> or your definition of "fine" got biased ReadError :P 2016-08-14T20:49:54 < ReadError> Steffanx well compared to 90% of efnet im okay 2016-08-14T20:49:54 < Tectu> don't worry Steffanx, trump will make him great again 2016-08-14T20:49:59 < ReadError> i dont take crazy pills and have a job 2016-08-14T20:50:16 < ReadError> so yea, things are looking up 2016-08-14T20:50:21 < ReadError> R2COM slangin wood 2016-08-14T20:50:34 < Steffanx> Fleck, better vote and then you can decide who to ignore ;) 2016-08-14T20:50:38 < mitrax> Fleck: if you're watching a movie that may contain violence, offensive language, nudity or whatever, and one of your kid get in the room? what do you do? 2016-08-14T20:50:54 < Tectu> close VLC and pornhub revealed in the background 2016-08-14T20:51:55 < zyp> Fleck, in that case, isn't it more productive to teach your kids when swearing is inappropriate than trying to shield them from it completely? 2016-08-14T20:52:22 < Fleck> zyp: will do that later, ofc 2016-08-14T20:52:38 < Tectu> Fleck, May I ask how old your kid(s) are? 2016-08-14T20:52:44 < Fleck> no! 2016-08-14T20:54:26 < Fleck> Steffanx: I think we all know how that vote gonna end, no? 2016-08-14T20:54:56 < zyp> Fleck, well, I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kids, but if you're going to abstain from all sorts of media containing swearing when they are around, that's on you 2016-08-14T20:55:08 < zyp> IMO swearing is a perfectly natural part of a language 2016-08-14T20:55:39 < Steffanx> Fleck, maybe, but it closes next week or so. 2016-08-14T20:55:41 < zyp> and even if we do end up with rigid rules here, I don't see swearing being outlawed by them 2016-08-14T20:56:04 < zyp> asleep probably, it's 3AM there 2016-08-14T20:56:13 < Steffanx> japan? 2016-08-14T20:56:30 < BrainDamage> that site doesn't prevent multiple voting tought, it's prompting me for th same question everytime 2016-08-14T20:56:46 < zyp> Steffanx, I assume that's where he is 2016-08-14T20:57:08 < zyp> BrainDamage, seems to be cookie based 2016-08-14T20:57:12 < Steffanx> oh i read it's 3 AM here. 2016-08-14T20:57:14 < ReadError> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=373_1471177296 2016-08-14T20:57:15 < ReadError> oh dear 2016-08-14T20:57:20 < Steffanx> Seriously? I was told it does at least ip based. 2016-08-14T20:58:12 < Steffanx> hmpf. 2016-08-14T20:59:48 < Steffanx> you shouldn't have told that BrainDamage. Now im pretty sure its going to be exploited. 2016-08-14T21:00:15 < BrainDamage> i assumed it already was 2016-08-14T21:00:28 < Steffanx> Not that we can't restart the vote with some more proper tool. 2016-08-14T21:00:34 < zyp> somebody would figure it out either way, now you know it's going to be exploited 2016-08-14T21:01:02 < Tectu> zyp, doesn't google forms have some poll thingy too? 2016-08-14T21:01:10 < Tectu> I assume that as it's from google it will be pretty decent 2016-08-14T21:01:33 < Steffanx> and it works anonymously? 2016-08-14T21:01:55 < Steffanx> BrainDamage and he is right. 2016-08-14T21:02:04 < zyp> Tectu, it requires google login to ensure people would only enter once 2016-08-14T21:02:11 < Tectu> Steffanx, I don't know. zyp is google forms pro 2016-08-14T21:02:12 < Tectu> ah, okay 2016-08-14T21:02:31 < upgrdman> so uh what defines hate speech in stm32? i mean some of it would be obvious, but what about crude jokes, like dongs saying "niggerbuntu" etc. ? 2016-08-14T21:02:43 < zyp> «Only allow one response per person (requires login)» 2016-08-14T21:02:52 < upgrdman> i did 2016-08-14T21:02:53 < Tectu> zyp, thanks for the info 2016-08-14T21:03:12 < Steffanx> change browser and you can 2016-08-14T21:03:13 < zyp> R2COM, cookie based 2016-08-14T21:03:17 < Steffanx> remove cookies and you can 2016-08-14T21:03:21 < zyp> open it in incognito and you can 2016-08-14T21:03:28 < Tectu> personally I agree that stuff like "hate speech" and racism, sexual stuff etc. aren't supposed to in here. But I have to say that people shouldn't be butthurt by regular swearing. 2016-08-14T21:03:45 < ReadError> yea I think it should be modified 2016-08-14T21:03:46 < ReadError> the wording 2016-08-14T21:03:58 < ReadError> nobody is against free speech 2016-08-14T21:04:18 < BrainDamage> well, like all informal modertion systems, the bar is drawn by moderators, the question is just "do you trust moderators to enforce policies on their definition of hate speech?" 2016-08-14T21:04:22 < Tectu> eg. the thing that ReadError just posted is something I am not sure if it was a good idea to post it. it will just cause other people to say racist stuff 2016-08-14T21:04:34 < ReadError> Tectu but its news 2016-08-14T21:04:42 < ReadError> current events 2016-08-14T21:04:46 < Tectu> ReadError, but clearly racism related content 2016-08-14T21:04:50 < BrainDamage> the alternative would be a written set of rules, but those tend to be rather bureaucratic, complicated, and impersonal 2016-08-14T21:04:55 < ReadError> Tectu well black people can say it 2016-08-14T21:05:16 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of ##stm32 to: STM32 | This channel is publicly logged ( http://xob.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stm32/ ) | IRC wisdom: https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips | Don't ask to ask | http://essentialscrap.com/tips/stm32prices/ 2016-08-14T21:05:25 < Steffanx> I guess the vote is over until there is some proper tool. 2016-08-14T21:05:50 < Steffanx> no vote as in. there was no vote. 2016-08-14T21:06:11 < Laurenceb__> if a vote happens in the woods and nobody is there to see it... 2016-08-14T21:06:25 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ still eats the biscuit 2016-08-14T21:06:35 < Laurenceb__> om nom nom 2016-08-14T21:06:42 < Steffanx> Uhm, everyone can see it Laurenceb__. And it was going to be there for a week. 2016-08-14T21:07:18 < Laurenceb__> inb4 vote is brigaded by /r/srs 2016-08-14T21:07:30 < Steffanx> Come on R2COM... 2016-08-14T21:07:48 < BrainDamage> wut, i didn't say what i voted 2016-08-14T21:08:38 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T21:08:57 < Laurenceb__> back to trolling emdrive 2016-08-14T21:09:16 < Laurenceb__> cannae are planning to test emdrive on a freely tumbling cubesat... 2016-08-14T21:09:20 < Steffanx> "and multiple times voted ..." <= and that makes the poll useless. 2016-08-14T21:09:32 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, could you just stop posting so much crap (mainly talking about linking images) in here please? 2016-08-14T21:09:45 < Steffanx> if you can't see that, then it's just sad R2COM. 2016-08-14T21:10:14 < Tectu> 140%, remember Steffanx? :p 2016-08-14T21:10:27 < Steffanx> Didnt everyone vote yes R2COM? 2016-08-14T21:10:35 < Steffanx> \o/ 2016-08-14T21:10:47 < BrainDamage> he's russian, he's used to flawed polls 2016-08-14T21:10:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-14T21:10:53 < zyp> haha 2016-08-14T21:11:35 < Tectu> you can let the swiss people handle this, but it will take at least four years... 2016-08-14T21:12:29 < upgrdman> so uh serious question, is my shitposting in here part of this debate? 2016-08-14T21:12:37 < upgrdman> im not trying to make people uncomfortable 2016-08-14T21:16:04 < Tectu> does such thing even exist over there? 2016-08-14T21:17:04 < ReadError> see thats offensive to americans ;( 2016-08-14T21:18:03 < Steffanx> What's that meat-ish stuff? 2016-08-14T21:18:07 < Tectu> that ^ 2016-08-14T21:18:26 < Tectu> also, tomatoes are the worst vegetables in existance 2016-08-14T21:18:46 < Tectu> are you preparing that yourself, R2COM ? 2016-08-14T21:18:54 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-14T21:20:31 < Fleck> I love tomatoes 2016-08-14T21:21:07 < Tectu> you too? had a three-days-long conversation with some bulgarian dude a few days ago about tomatoes. 2016-08-14T21:21:18 < zyp> fuck tomatoes 2016-08-14T21:21:21 < Tectu> that ^ 2016-08-14T21:21:22 < ReadError> ketchup is gross too 2016-08-14T21:21:26 < Steffanx> only on pizza. 2016-08-14T21:21:30 < zyp> ketchup is even worse 2016-08-14T21:21:53 < Tectu> ReadError, /s/organic/bio? I mean, are there non-organic tomatoes? Or is my definition of organic fucked up? 2016-08-14T21:22:22 < zyp> organic as in ecological or whatever 2016-08-14T21:22:23 < ReadError> well just depends where they source the NPK 2016-08-14T21:22:26 < zyp> I assume 2016-08-14T21:22:34 < ReadError> or w/e the x:x:x ratio is 2016-08-14T21:22:52 < BrainDamage> most tomatoes in supermarkets taste like northing because they are picked when they are rather green, and then artificially riped on storage / dispatch, otherwise they'd overripen by the time they are sold, this is to get best looks, problem is that they don't store anything from the lant in the meantime, which is where most of the flavour is developed 2016-08-14T21:22:52 < ReadError> oh hey i remembered something 2016-08-14T21:23:36 < ReadError> R2COM no its the fertilizers used in production 2016-08-14T21:23:40 < zyp> the food-term organic is pretty different from the chemical term organic :p 2016-08-14T21:24:08 < zyp> the latter pretty much meaning «carbon-based» 2016-08-14T21:24:12 < ReadError> sure you do 2016-08-14T21:24:36 < ReadError> soil gets depleted 2016-08-14T21:26:39 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T21:27:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T21:27:26 < BrainDamage> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iu9bpzsicadf8lv/DSC_0008.JPG?dl=0 i hope it looks sufficiently awful 2016-08-14T21:28:47 < Tectu> ew 2016-08-14T21:28:54 < dekar__> I realised Chinese people dislike tomatoes. Even at western fast food places you get tiny amounts of ketchup, they instead add spicy chilli powder to their fries. And they seemingly only have two Chinese dishes with tomatoes, one being a soup with a few chunks for the taste, the other being egg and tomato. 2016-08-14T21:30:02 < Tectu> powder on fries? Part of why I put checkup on my fries is so that they are a bit more moist 2016-08-14T21:30:11 < Tectu> adding powder sounds like a horrible idea :p 2016-08-14T21:30:43 < ReadError> nacho cheese on fries is good 2016-08-14T21:31:23 < Tectu> Meh, that typical nacho cheese always seems so awkward to me 2016-08-14T21:31:49 < Tectu> like they mixed oil with silicone and added a bit of yellow die 2016-08-14T21:31:51 < Tectu> dye? 2016-08-14T21:31:54 < Tectu> dye. 2016-08-14T21:34:39 < zyp> silicon die 2016-08-14T21:38:07 < Tectu> http://www.itslavida.com/files/2014/12/fondue_recipe.jpg 2016-08-14T21:38:20 < BrainDamage> i hate cheese 2016-08-14T21:38:31 < Steffanx> Dont hate me. 2016-08-14T21:39:01 < Tectu> BrainDamage, me too, although I accept molten versions (eg. fondue, raclette, ...) 2016-08-14T21:39:19 < BrainDamage> aged cheese and beans make me dry heave as soon as i feel the taste 2016-08-14T21:39:57 < mitrax> raclette forever <3 2016-08-14T21:40:15 < Steffanx> Uhm, the beans and cheese are related somehow or should i read that as two completely seperate things? 2016-08-14T21:40:31 < BrainDamage> separate things, either taste makes me gag 2016-08-14T21:40:44 < Steffanx> All beans? 2016-08-14T21:40:55 < Tectu> mitrax, how come you know raclette? I though that is pretty central european-ish only. 2016-08-14T21:40:56 < BrainDamage> no, altought i don't know the specific name of those that i hate 2016-08-14T21:41:09 < Steffanx> I get the idea all available eatable beans are eaten here in the netherlands 2016-08-14T21:42:23 < BrainDamage> i think it's pinto 2016-08-14T21:42:34 < mitrax> Tectu: because i'm french :p 2016-08-14T21:42:45 < Tectu> mitrax, oh, I though you were one of trump's slaves 2016-08-14T21:42:55 < Tectu> soliders* 2016-08-14T21:43:02 < mitrax> ahah no 2016-08-14T21:44:35 < Steffanx> You ever lived in england of the us or other english speaking country? 2016-08-14T21:44:40 < Steffanx> *or 2016-08-14T21:44:44 < Tectu> that ^ 2016-08-14T21:44:52 < mitrax> nope 2016-08-14T21:44:58 < Tectu> How come your english is that good? 2016-08-14T21:45:13 < mitrax> lots of irc ;) 2016-08-14T21:45:19 < Tectu> good 2016-08-14T21:45:30 < Tectu> all the french people (and I know many many) have way worse english kills than you 2016-08-14T21:45:39 < Tectu> even the ones that do daily englishing 2016-08-14T21:47:14 < mitrax> are they programmers too? 2016-08-14T21:47:22 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-14T21:49:50 < mitrax> well yeah ... most french are awful at english, i guess it has to do with the way english is taught in our schools 2016-08-14T21:50:06 < Tectu> well, it's not like they are better at german 2016-08-14T21:50:20 < mitrax> ahaha 2016-08-14T21:50:30 < Tectu> but then again, nobody is doing well with german if it's not their native language 2016-08-14T21:51:14 < Tectu> dekar__, you may rage now 2016-08-14T21:51:26 < mitrax> another possible reason (i guess at least) is all foreign TV programs are dubbed 2016-08-14T21:51:39 < mitrax> while in scandanivia and other countries they're subtitled 2016-08-14T21:52:36 < Tectu> also your weird bureau that invents new french words to keep the language clean 2016-08-14T21:53:39 < dekar__> Tectu, even my GF told me life was too short to learn German. :/ 2016-08-14T21:53:55 < Steffanx> chinese gf? 2016-08-14T21:54:04 < dekar__> Yeah 2016-08-14T21:54:16 < Steffanx> and you say the same about chinese probably? 2016-08-14T21:54:25 < mitrax> Tectu: ahah yeah "l'académie française"... they come up with new crappy words when there's no existing equivalent to an english one that gets used a lot 2016-08-14T21:54:31 < dekar__> Though she's in San Jose right now, studying MBA. 2016-08-14T21:54:47 < Tectu> dekar__, lol'd 2016-08-14T21:54:50 < dekar__> I'm actually learning some Chinese, though. 2016-08-14T21:55:07 < Steffanx> Both writing and speaking? And probably one of the many dialects? 2016-08-14T21:55:11 < Tectu> well I guess learning a language that doesn't use the same character set is actually a lot harder 2016-08-14T21:55:22 < BrainDamage> how does one say "foxconn slave" in mandarin? 2016-08-14T21:55:30 < dekar__> Steffanx, Mandarin mostly, though I'm in Sichuan and people speak dialect. Meh. 2016-08-14T21:55:35 < Steffanx> dongs 2016-08-14T21:55:59 < dekar__> And yeah also some characters, you need them to order food. 2016-08-14T21:56:57 < dekar__> BrainDamage, I don't know. I'm not dealing with their slaves, yet I hired a guy who had a scholarship from foxconn. 2016-08-14T21:57:32 < Tectu> dekar__, oh, you moved to .cn? 2016-08-14T21:58:38 < dekar__> Tectu, not sure tbh. I'm still renting in Germany. But I was there for the last 3 months, just returned to Germany and I'll go back there in another month. 2016-08-14T21:59:03 < Tectu> dekar__, how's the food there? I am somehow afraid of all the instects 2016-08-14T21:59:07 < Tectu> insects* 2016-08-14T21:59:12 < Tectu> well, not afraid, just not... thorn towards :p 2016-08-14T22:00:50 < dekar__> Tectu, it took me over a year to find some Chinese guy who would even try insects with me. So it's not too common. But they regularly eat all sorts of other weird stuff. Variety of intestines, brain, frogs etc. Sichuan is famous for their rabbit heads. 2016-08-14T22:01:50 < dekar__> I'm easy going when it comes to food, I enjoy spicier dishes than many Chinese. So for me it's all fine, yet I can see how many foreigners would have a hard time. 2016-08-14T22:02:03 < Tectu> Okay :) 2016-08-14T22:02:21 < Tectu> a friend of me moved from Zurich to some china place. He invited me a few times, should probably go for it 2016-08-14T22:03:45 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-14T22:05:22 < Tectu> I love german food though. real proper food. 2016-08-14T22:06:44 < dekar__> Tectu, I actually have started a religious cult at my workplace, making a pilgrimage to the local Thai restaurant every day around lunchtime. :P 2016-08-14T22:07:34 < dekar__> In Germany that is. 2016-08-14T22:07:47 < Tectu> ahahah :p 2016-08-14T22:07:51 < dekar__> German food is fine once in a while, but I quite like variety. 2016-08-14T22:08:06 < Tectu> better ask Steffanx how much I vary my food stuff 2016-08-14T22:09:27 < Steffanx> You said frozen pizza? 2016-08-14T22:10:13 < Tectu> :p 2016-08-14T22:10:47 < BrainDamage> there's no pizzerie over there? 2016-08-14T22:11:02 < Steffanx> nothing beats pre-made frozen pizza. 2016-08-14T22:11:09 < dekar__> Pizza in China has no tomato sauce whatsoever, but mayonnaise instead. -.- 2016-08-14T22:11:22 < Steffanx> not my words BrainDamage, his. 2016-08-14T22:11:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-14T22:11:31 < Tectu> dekar__, sounds horrible 2016-08-14T22:11:40 < dekar__> It is 2016-08-14T22:11:47 < Steffanx> mayonnaise, pizza? Wut? 2016-08-14T22:12:07 < Steffanx> And it also has not some red/orange colour? 2016-08-14T22:12:09 < Tectu> BrainDamage, there's actually quite a cult in taking the regional train over to domodossola to get a proper pizza. 2016-08-14T22:12:27 < BrainDamage> worst pizza i had so far had some yellowish undeciphrable substance in place of mozzarella and garlic cloves in the dough 2016-08-14T22:12:36 < Tectu> ew 2016-08-14T22:12:43 < BrainDamage> in saltzburg 2016-08-14T22:13:14 < BrainDamage> that was in high school 2016-08-14T22:13:22 < BrainDamage> eversince i stopped getting pizza abroad at all, and just rely on local food, pretty much never been disappointed eversince 2016-08-14T22:15:12 < Tectu> is there any difference between serious austrian and german food? 2016-08-14T22:15:20 < Tectu> serious difference* 2016-08-14T22:17:35 < dekar__> They once tried serving me western breakfast in China. It consisted of fried egg, that was mostly raw, toast that wasn't toasted, strawberry jam and a bunch of lettuce leaves. I didn't touch the egg, because China and food safety. Chinese people never eat raw meat or egg, so I don't feel like trying. 2016-08-14T22:18:39 < Steffanx> Even when cooked, eggs for breakfast is just terrible. 2016-08-14T22:18:50 < dekar__> Same for lettuce. They fertilise with human excrement in China, so I'd rather they cook it. 2016-08-14T22:19:24 < Steffanx> yay 2016-08-14T22:19:24 < mitrax> dekar__: have you ever asked for a simple glass of water there? :) 2016-08-14T22:19:26 < dekar__> Chinese people don't touch anything raw, I figure they have their reasons. 2016-08-14T22:19:42 < dekar__> Yeah water is fine, though served hot. 2016-08-14T22:19:45 < mitrax> dekar__: while i was in SZ all the place serves it watrm 2016-08-14T22:19:47 < mitrax> warm 2016-08-14T22:19:48 < mitrax> yeah 2016-08-14T22:20:06 < Steffanx> They do ice cubes? 2016-08-14T22:20:14 < dekar__> They believe cold drinks are bad for your health. 2016-08-14T22:20:25 < dekar__> Cold anything actually. 2016-08-14T22:20:53 < dekar__> I always tell them that may apply to Chinese, but being a foreigner I'm immune. :D 2016-08-14T22:21:03 < mitrax> eheh 2016-08-14T22:22:08 < mitrax> dekar__: did kids stare at you too? :p 2016-08-14T22:22:34 < dekar__> Steffanx, you get ice in drinks at western fast food places. Everywhere else you shouldn't order that, they might add some of the ice they used for keeping their seafood fresh. 2016-08-14T22:23:00 < Steffanx> hah. At least they try to make the customer happy. 2016-08-14T22:23:47 < dekar__> mitrax, stare? I once visited a hotel for a second time, just to find my picture with the children of the owner at the wall. The writing above it said "Family". 2016-08-14T22:24:01 < mitrax> AHAHA 2016-08-14T22:24:08 < dekar__> But yeah everyone constantly stares, and people ask me to take selfies with them. 2016-08-14T22:24:27 < mitrax> yeah 2016-08-14T22:24:45 < Steffanx> From some photo you posted once i remember you as a pretty big/large guy. so im not surprised. 2016-08-14T22:25:10 < dekar__> They really like tall people, so yeah I'm an attraction over there. 2016-08-14T22:25:27 < mitrax> http://download.unfiltered.net/IMG_9533.JPG <= that was in an elevator, the baby was sortof sleeping, then he saw me and was like "wow what's this", had to take a picture 2016-08-14T22:27:37 < mitrax> might have been cause of the beard though 2016-08-14T22:28:18 < Steffanx> heh 2016-08-14T22:31:11 < dekar__> Oh yeah they are curious about beards, or even hairy arms for that matter. 2016-08-14T22:31:31 < dekar__> Pokemon Go in China: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28467113/IMG_20160810_015458.jpg 2016-08-14T22:31:54 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-14T22:32:17 < mitrax> ahaha 2016-08-14T22:32:29 < dekar__> It gets stronger by fighting mosquitos :) 2016-08-14T22:38:02 < Steffanx> Our opinion does not matter, it's what you want :P 2016-08-14T22:39:31 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T22:39:40 < Steffanx> What games? I mean it totally depends on the game. Some didn't really enjoy it much with games as project cars iirc. 2016-08-14T22:40:48 < ReadError> lol, 800$, THEN, $41 to ship it 2016-08-14T22:40:52 < ReadError> the nerve 2016-08-14T22:42:18 < Tectu> it's just money 2016-08-14T22:42:50 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T22:43:04 < Steffanx> the swisser has money. 2016-08-14T22:43:36 < ReadError> its cool but the res aint doing it for me yet 2016-08-14T22:43:55 < ReadError> fps games you want to see details far 2016-08-14T22:44:14 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-14T22:46:55 < dekar__> I tried google cardboard before and with a 1080p phone the resolution really was crap. I think people should at least wait for 4k screens. 2016-08-14T22:47:23 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-14T22:47:37 < ReadError> plus the whole seeing lines between pixels 2016-08-14T22:47:40 < ReadError> screendoor 2016-08-14T22:47:43 < ReadError> cant have 2016-08-14T22:48:11 < Steffanx> but with 1080p being heavy i can image 4k will be.. 1080 in sli at least? 2016-08-14T22:48:17 < Steffanx> gtx 2016-08-14T22:48:45 < ReadError> also 800$ is still kinda up there 2016-08-14T22:48:56 < ReadError> given what kind of display(s) you can get for that 2016-08-14T22:50:26 < dekar__> Steffanx, just wait a few years, GPUs get much cheaper anyway. No need to be early adopter. 2016-08-14T22:52:54 < dekar__> I think they don't sell VR headsets with 4k right now anyway. 2016-08-14T22:52:57 < Steffanx> Im pretty sure i will be a very late adopter. 2016-08-14T23:00:42 < ReadError> its still novelty at this point 2016-08-14T23:02:21 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-14T23:03:32 < ReadError> ED looked like shit in DK2 2016-08-14T23:16:59 < Lux> the vive is much better in that regard 2016-08-14T23:18:35 < Lux> i mean those pixel lines 2016-08-14T23:18:48 < Lux> they got some special optics to blurr them 2016-08-14T23:29:33 < dekar__> I don't think blur is the answer for me. I enjoy crisp images. 2016-08-14T23:37:20 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-14T23:37:35 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-14T23:47:36 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-14T23:47:40 < Lux> it's not really noticeable while playing 2016-08-14T23:47:49 < Lux> but I agree 4k is the way to go 2016-08-14T23:48:44 < Lux> but untill that'll work on an affordable pc it'll be a few years 2016-08-14T23:52:47 < karlp> you guys cooking and I just mixed up some sauce and microwaved some leftover bread sticks. 2016-08-14T23:59:57 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivglsepxlwgbribm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Day changed Mon Aug 15 2016 2016-08-15T00:05:42 < ReadError> wife leave you? 2016-08-15T00:11:06 < karlp> actually, she just came in with chips and some home made guac, just a lazy sunday :) 2016-08-15T00:11:25 < karlp> zyp: thanks for teh feedback on that rcc_init, good to know! 2016-08-15T00:19:37 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [] 2016-08-15T00:25:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-15T00:31:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-15T00:35:01 < basepusher> hey guys, i'm doing an usart example for pixhawk fmuv2. 2016-08-15T00:35:33 < basepusher> got it to print out but all the characters are wrong. reading some stuff googling baud rate / clock is wrong? 2016-08-15T00:35:48 < basepusher> however i set my baud rate: consoleUSART.USART_BaudRate = 115200; 2016-08-15T00:36:58 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T00:42:21 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-15T00:46:49 < zyp> karlp, I should have noticed it before 2016-08-15T00:50:54 < ReadError> whats a stand in for a 10k NTC that you dont want to report crazy shit 2016-08-15T00:51:49 < zyp> a 10k resistor? 2016-08-15T00:52:28 -!- mra90 [~Martin@buz226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-15T00:55:28 < aandrew> ReadError: depends 2016-08-15T00:55:34 < aandrew> what temp do you want it to report? 2016-08-15T00:55:54 < aandrew> look up the NTC you want to replace, find an appropriate temp and cross that back to the resistor value it represents 2016-08-15T00:55:54 < ReadError> room temp 2016-08-15T00:56:09 < ReadError> i was more so asking if there was a rule of thumb 2016-08-15T00:57:08 < aandrew> ReadError: depends on the NTC but quick googling says about 12.5k is 20C 2016-08-15T00:57:16 < aandrew> 25C is 10k 2016-08-15T01:07:19 -!- paul__ [~quassel@c-174-63-99-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T01:11:46 < ReadError> 11.8k sounds good 2016-08-15T01:17:47 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T01:26:35 < owl-v-> I was able to install openstm32 ide (plug-in). I didn't have to open terminals :) 2016-08-15T01:45:22 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T01:45:40 < jadew> sup? 2016-08-15T01:47:18 < owl-v-> sup 2016-08-15T01:48:08 < jadew> I almost ran over a drunk on the highway. What's going on here? 2016-08-15T01:48:40 < Tectu> dicking around with regex 2016-08-15T01:48:46 < Tectu> so almost the same I guess 2016-08-15T01:48:49 < jadew> need help? 2016-08-15T01:54:17 < englishman> amazon prime. free next day shipping. usually ships in 1 to 4 months. lol amazon canada, why even bother. 2016-08-15T01:55:37 < Laurenceb__> http://imgur.com/B3uTAw4 2016-08-15T01:55:44 < Laurenceb__> meanwhile in Texas 2016-08-15T02:04:37 < ReadError> https://photos.smugmug.com/Quads/i-LStCZBR/0/X3/CA_08141619040214-X3.jpg AFK burning my house down 2016-08-15T02:07:35 < Laurenceb__> is that 18650 ? 2016-08-15T02:09:11 < ReadError> yea 2016-08-15T02:10:12 < Laurenceb__> looks good 2016-08-15T02:10:22 < Tectu> read "efnet" on that label 2016-08-15T02:19:59 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-15T02:24:31 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-15T02:29:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-15T02:42:18 < jadew> http://store.steampowered.com/app/265930/ 2016-08-15T02:43:24 < englishman> $2 lol 2016-08-15T02:45:12 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-15T02:51:54 < owl-v-> no TTP for stm32 ?? --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-Triggered_Protocol 2016-08-15T02:52:09 < owl-v-> f4 & f7 2016-08-15T02:52:11 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T02:56:19 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T02:58:20 < upgrdman> R2COM, you ever do much with java? 2016-08-15T03:02:57 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-15T03:04:40 < upgrdman> oops, lol. i must have a memory leak somewhere. my program was using like 80MB of RAM, now like 30 mins laters it at 9GB 2016-08-15T03:04:59 < upgrdman> good thing i went with 32GB of DDR4 for this new PC :) 2016-08-15T03:05:26 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/PYe38z5.gifv 2016-08-15T03:18:58 < KreAture_Zzz> hmm 2016-08-15T03:19:03 < KreAture_Zzz> dongs you tried Gitlab ? 2016-08-15T03:19:12 < KreAture_Zzz> I think I am in love LOL 2016-08-15T03:19:22 < upgrdman> is gitlab oss? 2016-08-15T03:19:24 < aandrew> holy fuck atollic is shit 2016-08-15T03:19:29 < upgrdman> or just a cheaper github? 2016-08-15T03:19:42 < ReadError> buttbucket has free priv repos 2016-08-15T03:19:44 < aandrew> "let's build a stm32cube project" sure, I'll let you do that then spend an eternity trying to debug with it 2016-08-15T03:19:56 < KreAture_Zzz> upgrdman well private repo for free unless you want full support 2016-08-15T03:20:19 < upgrdman> but i mean can you deploy your own shitlab on your server? 2016-08-15T03:20:22 < KreAture_Zzz> upgrdman and I just found out I can create milestones and issues too, and have groups of users on my project 2016-08-15T03:20:29 < KreAture_Zzz> upgrdman yes 2016-08-15T03:20:36 < aandrew> but bitbucket is so shit from a UI perspective 2016-08-15T03:20:36 < KreAture_Zzz> I think so 2 secs 2016-08-15T03:20:56 < KreAture_Zzz> https://about.gitlab.com/installation/ 2016-08-15T03:20:57 < KreAture_Zzz> yes 2016-08-15T03:21:31 < KreAture_Zzz> and I love the ui so far 2016-08-15T03:21:38 < ReadError> i have a gitlab 2016-08-15T03:21:41 < KreAture_Zzz> pleasantly surprised :) 2016-08-15T03:21:50 < KreAture_Zzz> ReadError YOU'VE BEEN HOLDING OUT ON ME! 2016-08-15T03:21:53 < KreAture_Zzz> LOL 2016-08-15T03:21:57 < aandrew> hm, it appears that windex has no ammonia now 2016-08-15T03:22:00 < ReadError> its a fat little piggy 2016-08-15T03:22:08 < KreAture_Zzz> ReadError only when local 2016-08-15T03:22:15 < aandrew> In 2015 the S.C.Johnson website lists the ingredients as Water, 2-Hexoxyethanol, Isopropanolamine, Sodium Dodecylbenzene Sulfonate, Lauramine Oxide, Ammonium Hydroxide, Fragrance, and Liquitint® Sky Blue Dye" 2016-08-15T03:22:18 < KreAture_Zzz> when remote it's their piggy 2016-08-15T03:22:34 < ReadError> i wish it did replication 2016-08-15T03:22:39 < dongs> aandrew: why even bother with atollic if youre g onna use dicklipse + gcc might as well just use that freetard sw4stm32 shit 2016-08-15T03:22:39 < jadew> can you disable the fork button in gitlab? 2016-08-15T03:22:44 < ReadError> automatically 2016-08-15T03:23:02 < aandrew> dongs: customer requirement 2016-08-15T03:23:05 < dongs> fuckem 2016-08-15T03:23:07 < aandrew> dongs: I just use CLI and make 2016-08-15T03:23:35 < KreAture_Zzz> dongs ! How's my favrouite chip pimp! 2016-08-15T03:23:49 < ReadError> read that as chimp 2016-08-15T03:23:54 < KreAture_Zzz> :p 2016-08-15T03:24:02 < dongs> not sure, but shitlab looks dumb. i'll stick to sourcetree and shithub/shitbucket 2016-08-15T03:24:05 < KreAture_Zzz> ReadError no dongs gets me my chips 2016-08-15T03:41:34 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/tm2uXpN.jpg 2016-08-15T03:42:57 < jadew> so... dongs 2016-08-15T03:44:58 < dongs> how can it be a "discussion" if i wasn't present 2016-08-15T03:44:58 < jadew> that guy must be related to the owner of this bakery: https://hammerandpopsicle.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/img_3866.jpg 2016-08-15T03:45:59 < upgrdman> lets just hope our beloved channel doesnt turn into a safe space ;) 2016-08-15T03:47:41 < dongs> lol safe sapce 2016-08-15T03:51:13 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-15T03:51:57 < upgrdman> is TPB is only decent public torrent search engine? 2016-08-15T03:52:02 < upgrdman> isocunt is meh 2016-08-15T03:52:12 < upgrdman> i miss KAT 2016-08-15T03:52:24 < upgrdman> movies not on Prime 2016-08-15T03:52:42 < upgrdman> atm im on a foreign movie kick 2016-08-15T03:52:44 < jadew> it's embarrasing to buy porn 2016-08-15T03:53:09 < jadew> "dutch girl takes 2" 2016-08-15T03:53:12 < upgrdman> R2COM, too impatient. i WANT to pay them indirect via shit like Prime or Netdicks but so much isnt there 2016-08-15T03:54:34 < dongs> lol @ streaming video 2016-08-15T03:54:39 < dongs> what a fucking waste of bandwidth for shit quality 2016-08-15T03:54:56 < upgrdman> R2COM, is the big play button the download link? 2016-08-15T03:54:57 < dongs> i just rent jewrays online and rip them 2016-08-15T03:55:03 < dongs> aka netflix before they turned jewish 2016-08-15T03:56:13 < upgrdman> oh its just for streaming not downloading? 2016-08-15T03:56:17 < upgrdman> well good enough anyway 2016-08-15T03:56:21 * upgrdman hugs mother russia 2016-08-15T03:57:42 < zyp> fucking L0 SPI errata, bit me again 2016-08-15T03:57:58 < dongs> how the fuck can they screw up SPI 2016-08-15T03:58:14 < zyp> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/errata_sheet/d4/03/42/b0/b1/6c/4a/19/DM00114891.pdf/files/DM00114891.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00114891.pdf 2016-08-15T03:58:17 < zyp> 2.6.3 2016-08-15T03:58:22 < zyp> corrupts LSB 2016-08-15T03:58:43 < zyp> setting SCK GPIO drive speed to max fixes it 2016-08-15T03:59:19 < dongs> err, nice 2016-08-15T03:59:23 < zyp> but I loaded some older code from before last time I fixed that, and spent a bunch of time scratching my head about why it wasn't working 2016-08-15T04:04:11 < dongs> wtf is a 'voltage regulator diode'? 2016-08-15T04:04:13 < dongs> isnt that just zener? 2016-08-15T04:04:32 < zyp> maybe 2016-08-15T04:04:33 < dongs> http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/BZX384_SERIES.pdf 2016-08-15T04:04:47 < zyp> or maybe it's the flyback diode for a switching reg 2016-08-15T04:05:07 < zyp> nah, that's just a zener 2016-08-15T04:05:16 < dongs> thats what i thought 2016-08-15T04:12:57 < zyp> hmm, this scsi code is super ugly 2016-08-15T04:17:04 < zyp> posted all that while you timed out 2016-08-15T04:17:38 < zyp> you can check it from the log in topic 2016-08-15T04:18:54 < zyp> that's kinda stupid 2016-08-15T04:19:07 < zyp> hmm, SCSI docs are dumb too 2016-08-15T04:20:34 < dongs> zyp: http://www.filedropper.com/tcs1405ds0311 2016-08-15T04:21:24 < zyp> oh, neat, ID emulator 2016-08-15T04:22:19 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d4164d.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T04:24:39 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d418b7.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-15T04:25:02 < zyp> dongs, that chip looks super useful, simple to use and can do all the basic usb-c shit 2016-08-15T04:25:09 < dongs> yea 2016-08-15T04:25:31 < dongs> will probly use that for chargerstuff if price is ok 2016-08-15T04:25:34 < dongs> either that or VP223 2016-08-15T04:25:57 < dongs> hm price is not bad. 20c 2016-08-15T04:26:12 < dongs> for samples. 2016-08-15T04:27:48 < zyp> just a plain dumb usb-c charger? 2016-08-15T04:28:21 < dongs> nah some qc and otehr shit 2016-08-15T04:28:25 < dongs> im not fully on that project 2016-08-15T04:28:28 < dongs> just watching retweets 2016-08-15T04:28:47 < dongs> hm so with this TC thing I can make USB_C input for my displayport adapter 2016-08-15T04:28:56 < dongs> and actually declare that it will draw 2A@5V 2016-08-15T04:29:00 < dongs> er 1.5A@5V 2016-08-15T04:29:11 < zyp> no 2016-08-15T04:29:13 < dongs> yes? 2016-08-15T04:29:18 < dongs> CFG:: to set it as sink 2016-08-15T04:29:26 < dongs> and then HC:: to configure the current draw? 2016-08-15T04:29:37 < zyp> HC is output when CFG is set to UFP 2016-08-15T04:29:50 < zyp> so it tells you when you can draw 3A, not the opposite way around 2016-08-15T04:30:01 < zyp> devices don't declare it, they just get told when it's available 2016-08-15T04:30:01 < dongs> 'in dfp mode, HC is input' 2016-08-15T04:30:11 < zyp> DFP is source, UFP is sink 2016-08-15T04:30:18 < dongs> oh. 2016-08-15T04:30:20 < zyp> DRD is dual role device 2016-08-15T04:30:51 < zyp> the other ones are downstream-facing vs upstream-facing port 2016-08-15T04:31:00 < zyp> so the source is downstream-facing 2016-08-15T04:31:23 < dongs> so what would I need to do on a device? 2016-08-15T04:31:36 < zyp> set to UFP, read HC to check how much power is available 2016-08-15T04:31:37 < dongs> i get told that only 5V@500mA is available, and i just deal with it? 2016-08-15T04:31:41 < dongs> yeah, ok 2016-08-15T04:31:49 < dongs> pfft 2016-08-15T04:32:15 < zyp> and if you're not going to give a shit either way, you don't need that chip 2016-08-15T04:32:17 < dongs> that shit's only gonna work with real usb-c cables itn it 2016-08-15T04:32:32 < dongs> btw i ordered my first C:C cable couple days ago 2016-08-15T04:32:40 < zyp> just put in two resistors instead, they'll declare UFP just as well as that chip 2016-08-15T04:32:56 < zyp> and yes, 3A requires C-C-cables and 3A-capable port in other end 2016-08-15T04:33:11 < dongs> nah if I can detect and turn the brightness down or something then its not so bad 2016-08-15T04:33:38 < zyp> yeah, that's a possibility 2016-08-15T04:33:40 < dongs> apparently its a clone of some TI thing tho 2016-08-15T04:33:48 < dongs> TCS1420 is "TI footprint compatible" 2016-08-15T04:34:01 < dongs> TUSB320 or something? 2016-08-15T04:34:06 < zyp> maybe, idk 2016-08-15T04:34:11 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tusb320.pdf 2016-08-15T04:34:34 < dongs> looks like it 2016-08-15T04:35:12 < dongs> but ti thing is $2 2016-08-15T04:35:49 -!- paul__ [~quassel@c-174-63-99-188.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-15T04:36:09 < zyp> VP223 looks more useful for chargers, since it does legacy modes as well 2016-08-15T04:36:31 < dongs> I think they're actually gonna use some USB dpdm/analog mux thing 2016-08-15T04:36:37 < dongs> to switch between type C and old modes 2016-08-15T04:36:47 < dongs> at least thats last i heard 2016-08-15T04:36:49 < zyp> heh 2016-08-15T04:37:07 < zyp> idk 2016-08-15T04:37:12 < dongs> me neither 2016-08-15T04:37:19 < dongs> i forgot why vp wasnt fully suitable 2016-08-15T04:37:22 < dongs> oh.. something about its vcc 2016-08-15T04:37:27 < zyp> but I'm going to remember that TCS1405, because that looks useful 2016-08-15T04:37:38 < dongs> haev to run a booster from battery pack all the time or detect plug in 2016-08-15T04:37:44 < dongs> cuz its like 4.75->6V or osmeshit 2016-08-15T04:38:01 < zyp> oh 2016-08-15T04:52:21 < zyp> oh, neat 2016-08-15T04:52:42 < zyp> http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/devclass_docs/usbmass-ufi10.pdf <- there's a nice document here describing all SCSI commands required by mass storage units 2016-08-15T04:52:47 < zyp> why haven't I seen that before? 2016-08-15T04:53:27 < scrts> lads, do you use free stuff for stm32 development or something like IAR or Keil? 2016-08-15T04:53:53 < englishman> keil is free. 2016-08-15T04:54:34 < englishman> and <32k 2016-08-15T04:55:20 < zyp> oh, disregard, UFI is floppy, haha 2016-08-15T04:56:06 < scrts> <32k of code or for devices? 2016-08-15T04:56:11 < scrts> oh god no linux 2016-08-15T04:57:19 < scrts> hm, ok 2016-08-15T04:57:48 < scrts> ok, any other options then? 2016-08-15T04:58:26 < scrts> eclipse-less and bug-less? 2016-08-15T04:58:44 < ReadError> arm-eabi-gcc 2016-08-15T05:00:55 < dongs> keil is infinitely more productive and makes sure your project only attracts quality developers 2016-08-15T05:02:36 < dongs> apparently you can use keil IDE with gcc 2016-08-15T05:02:48 < dongs> no idea how and if debugging works, never bothered to try 2016-08-15T05:03:01 < dongs> that should let you legitimately use M0/M0+ free keil to target anythign else. 2016-08-15T05:05:18 < ReadError> yea but the IDE is the worst part about keil 2016-08-15T05:05:23 < ReadError> why would you want to do that 2016-08-15T05:07:40 < scrts> wait, you never used debug, dongs? 2016-08-15T05:07:59 < scrts> did you grow up on arduino or smth? 2016-08-15T05:08:00 < ReadError> hes saying w/ gcc 2016-08-15T05:08:05 < scrts> debug is probably the most important shit 2016-08-15T05:08:15 < scrts> oh well... 2016-08-15T05:10:22 < dongs> no, i never looked if debug works in keil+gcc project 2016-08-15T05:11:14 < scrts> and why not keil compiler? 2016-08-15T05:11:45 < dongs> well, can you afford it? 2016-08-15T05:12:04 < dongs> ther'es no "why not keil compiler" if you can afford it because its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gcc by far 2016-08-15T05:12:20 < dongs> infact it was so good tehy had to switch to some "clang" shit in newest keil to increase the suckiness 2016-08-15T05:12:37 < dongs> armcc code is like 30% smaller than gcc code, the new c lang trash manages to make it BIGGER than gcc code. 2016-08-15T05:14:52 < scrts> so for m0/m0+ micros the compiler is free? 2016-08-15T05:14:57 < dongs> yes 2016-08-15T05:15:12 < dongs> http://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk 2016-08-15T05:18:07 < ReadError> windows cost $$ tho 2016-08-15T05:18:47 < englishman> isnt windows 10 pro like $8 on ebay 2016-08-15T05:19:40 < ReadError> its not about the $$, its about tainting the GNU lifestyle 2016-08-15T05:20:15 < englishman> gnu involves a lot of taint, cant argue with that 2016-08-15T05:20:43 < ReadError> ubuntu 4 windows is cool 2016-08-15T05:21:49 < dekar_> I think code size isn't that important for many projects. It only is for classical high volume uC use cases. If you plan on extending the FW after shipping, you'll have spare memory anyway. And hobbyists probably don't care much about the price difference between 128kb and 512kb anyway. 2016-08-15T05:23:03 < scrts> nope, I don't 2016-08-15T05:23:30 < scrts> but coding 64kb device and having 32kb limit is risky 2016-08-15T05:23:59 < scrts> would have to move to another tool and re-adapt the code there 2016-08-15T05:26:04 < dongs> you could also write not shit code 2016-08-15T05:26:21 < dongs> my keil->freetard migration when people request it usually involves writing a makefile 2016-08-15T05:26:45 < scrts> ok, and you still use keil for f1 series? 2016-08-15T05:27:00 < ReadError> scrts why are you hung up on keil 2016-08-15T05:27:08 < scrts> I am not 2016-08-15T05:27:11 < dongs> yes. but i have several projects where they will build in either compiler. a couple on F4 also 2016-08-15T05:27:15 < ReadError> grab arm-eabi-gcc 2016-08-15T05:27:19 < ReadError> since you dont want eclipse 2016-08-15T05:27:29 < scrts> I've used Keil for atmel SAM9 series, but it wasn't the best by the time 2016-08-15T05:27:45 < scrts> OTOH, worked ok 2016-08-15T05:29:44 < aandrew> balls 2016-08-15T05:29:50 < aandrew> I got 99 peripherals but an I2C ain't one 2016-08-15T05:31:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T05:32:52 < scrts> heard of i3c? 2016-08-15T05:32:58 < aandrew> I have in fact 2016-08-15T05:33:02 < aandrew> some bullshit MIPI thing 2016-08-15T05:34:35 < scrts> yeah 2016-08-15T05:35:12 < scrts> hmm, coocox seems to be eclipse 2016-08-15T05:35:17 < scrts> buuut, free? 2016-08-15T05:35:31 < dongs> if youre gonna use eclipse might as well use sw4stm32 2016-08-15T05:37:04 < ReadError> that was the worst most disgusting breed 2016-08-15T05:37:10 < ReadError> register to download? fuckoff 2016-08-15T05:37:20 < dongs> except it works 2016-08-15T05:37:46 < ReadError> meh my eclipse works 2016-08-15T05:42:48 < englishman> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ham/291822893483 2016-08-15T05:44:25 < jadew> lol? 2016-08-15T05:44:39 < jadew> is that in pesos? 2016-08-15T05:49:04 < jadew> looks like one sold for 4k eur in Germany 2016-08-15T05:49:14 < jadew> now the question is, why? 2016-08-15T05:54:05 < jadew> not technical, it's just a collectible 2016-08-15T05:55:38 < zyp> heh, usb core in L0 doesn't give a fuck that max bulk packet size on FS is 64 bytes 2016-08-15T05:55:55 < zyp> fucked up some code and wrote 255 bytes, and they made it all onto the bus 2016-08-15T06:06:00 < dongs> orly 2016-08-15T06:06:04 < dongs> what happened then 2016-08-15T06:11:51 < zyp> dongs, idk, host probably dropped them 2016-08-15T06:25:41 < owl-v-> how can I add stm32CubeMX plug in ? I followed this step but didn't work. --> http://www.openstm32.org/forumthread2046 2016-08-15T06:28:35 < owl-v-> archive becomes --> jar:file:/Users/richpk/OS/en.stm32cubemx.zip!/ 2016-08-15T06:28:46 < owl-v-> why is there '!' character at the end?? 2016-08-15T06:32:00 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T06:32:55 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-15T06:45:36 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T06:50:25 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T06:52:14 < owl-v-> nvm. I downloaded wrong package 2016-08-15T07:03:22 < owl-v-> Can I target for f405 then upload the image onto f407 chip ?? 2016-08-15T07:04:49 < zyp> yes, f405 is a subset of f407 2016-08-15T07:13:28 < owl-v-> is f446 a subset of f405 ?? 2016-08-15T07:14:35 < zyp> not familiar enough with that to say, but if I had to guess, I'd say no since it's much newer 2016-08-15T07:15:44 < ReadError> owl-v- 446 and 411 are diff iirc 2016-08-15T07:15:53 < zyp> hmm, f446 is more capable, so if anything, it's a superset 2016-08-15T07:17:23 < zyp> oh 2016-08-15T07:17:44 < owl-v-> f446 is missing f405's sram 2016-08-15T07:17:47 < zyp> actually, the overview table suggests that f446 is a superset of f407 2016-08-15T07:17:55 < ReadError> didnt they put LCD 2016-08-15T07:17:58 < ReadError> or something on it 2016-08-15T07:18:12 < zyp> no, qspi 2016-08-15T07:18:17 < ReadError> 476 maybe 2016-08-15T07:18:18 < zyp> lcd is f429/f469 2016-08-15T07:18:38 < ReadError> or that ya 2016-08-15T07:19:09 < owl-v-> f405 is slightly more expensive than f446 2016-08-15T07:19:26 < zyp> at same flash size? 2016-08-15T07:19:32 < owl-v-> both have 64pin package, which is what i want 2016-08-15T07:19:38 < zyp> or because f446 is available with less flash? 2016-08-15T07:20:16 < owl-v-> probably the absence of SRAM 2016-08-15T07:20:27 < zyp> ccm you mean 2016-08-15T07:20:31 < owl-v-> yes 2016-08-15T07:20:44 < zyp> both f405 and f446 has 128k of normal sram 2016-08-15T07:21:10 < zyp> the extra ccm is kinda hard to make real use of, so the loss isn't that big 2016-08-15T07:23:30 < zyp> oh, nice 2016-08-15T07:23:46 < zyp> the dwc_otg cores in f446 are instanced with more endpoint pairs 2016-08-15T07:24:25 < zyp> 5 and 7 respectively, vs 3 and 5 in the older f4s 2016-08-15T07:24:54 < ReadError> i wonder if they fixed that i2c tomfoolery 2016-08-15T07:27:04 < _unreal_> trying to figure out what to do with my stm32f4 discovery 2016-08-15T07:27:06 < zyp> no, judging by the register layout it has the same old i2c core as other f4s, not the newer one that were introduced with f3 on 2016-08-15T07:27:32 < _unreal_> ReadError, you trader, get back in #multirotors where you belong ;) 2016-08-15T07:27:46 < zyp> which is natural if they want to keep it compatible 2016-08-15T07:27:46 < _unreal_> kidding 2016-08-15T07:29:02 < ReadError> zyp whats odd is on the f303re they changed enough to break compat from the f303rc 2016-08-15T07:29:07 < owl-v-> on USB_OTG_FS, I want to use it as device only. what are 'Activate_SOF' and 'Activate_VBUS' ?? 2016-08-15T07:29:28 < ReadError> figured they might have done somethin similar 2016-08-15T07:29:54 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-15T07:30:06 < zyp> ReadError, yeah, E is using the new version usb core, C uses the old 2016-08-15T07:30:34 < _unreal_> tryng to figure out what to do with my stm32f4 discovery 2016-08-15T07:31:00 < zyp> put it in a box and leave it there until you need it for anything? 2016-08-15T07:31:02 < zyp> that's what I do 2016-08-15T07:31:22 < _unreal_> thats been its home all along 2016-08-15T07:31:22 < zyp> not that I ever need it for anything, since waveshare board is a better prototyping platform 2016-08-15T07:31:50 < ReadError> zyp the f4's are E series too 2016-08-15T07:31:54 < _unreal_> can the stm32 decode mp3's? 2016-08-15T07:32:10 < ReadError> did they just change periph options around ? 2016-08-15T07:32:24 < zyp> ReadError, that letter is just flash size 2016-08-15T07:32:27 < zyp> E is 512k 2016-08-15T07:32:43 < ReadError> ah right 2016-08-15T07:33:24 < ReadError> did they have a F4 RE before? 2016-08-15T07:33:34 < zyp> no 2016-08-15T07:34:02 < zyp> IIRC only f405 is available in Rx and only f407 is available in xE 2016-08-15T07:34:46 < zyp> so you can only get 405RG or 407xE where x is V or something other larger than 64 pins 2016-08-15T07:35:09 < ReadError> the RE chips are still so expensive 2016-08-15T07:35:17 < ReadError> compared to the older ones 2016-08-15T07:35:25 < zyp> the f3 ones? 2016-08-15T07:35:33 < ReadError> pretty much all the ones I looked at 2016-08-15T07:35:37 < ReadError> even their f0 ones 2016-08-15T07:35:48 < ReadError> the ones on the new nucleos 2016-08-15T07:35:50 < zyp> 512k is a lot of flash 2016-08-15T07:36:05 < ReadError> oh i mean their new offerings, rather 2016-08-15T07:36:18 < zyp> well, sure 2016-08-15T07:36:30 < zyp> older chips have a lot more volume behind them 2016-08-15T07:36:52 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STM32F303RET6/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuTlc58v6Lktp0dJ1HCfZI4OM5hJhZ9lpA%3d 2016-08-15T07:37:04 < ReadError> guess these arent as bad, 75c more or so 2016-08-15T07:37:29 < zyp> do you even need 512k? 2016-08-15T07:37:51 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-15T07:38:57 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/NUCLEO-L432KC/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuKfYsiLTIqmJky5eACe3ZW0kThFaEGgZ0%3d 2016-08-15T07:38:58 < jpa-> everyone needs 1M of flash 2016-08-15T07:39:02 < syke> nxp DIP lpc810/lpc1114fn28 chips are so old, but still I cant find other DIP options 2016-08-15T07:39:13 < ReadError> yea I need tons of flash to run my shitty code 2016-08-15T07:39:18 < jpa-> same 2016-08-15T07:39:36 < zyp> the guys I designed stuff for last year ran out of space with 1M f407 2016-08-15T07:39:57 < jpa-> though in most of the stuff i design price of the MCU is a non-issue, so makes sense to put 1M just to be sure 2016-08-15T07:40:14 < zyp> which I solved by swapping to 2M f427 2016-08-15T07:40:21 < syke> sounds like realtime video handling 2016-08-15T07:40:38 < jpa-> what sounds like that? 2016-08-15T07:41:31 < ReadError> woh nice 2016-08-15T07:41:31 < jpa-> my current work project is just a fancy led blinker, currently 535 kB of code 2016-08-15T07:41:46 < ReadError> that L432 does crystal-less usb 2016-08-15T07:41:52 < ReadError> all the L series do? 2016-08-15T07:41:58 < zyp> not L1 2016-08-15T07:42:03 < jpa-> L1 only kind-of does 2016-08-15T07:42:10 < ReadError> L0 did I thought 2016-08-15T07:42:15 < jpa-> L0 does yeah 2016-08-15T07:42:32 < ReadError> thats kind of nice, qfn32 also 2016-08-15T07:42:33 < zyp> to be fair, in that 2M they're packing bootloader, two (redundant) system images and a packed filesystem that's served up over http 2016-08-15T07:42:49 < zyp> L1 is old, L0 and L4 is new 2016-08-15T07:43:08 < zyp> hmm, so L4 has the device only core, not dwc_otg? 2016-08-15T07:43:32 < zyp> or have they hooked up dwc_otg to the HSI48 calibration thing? 2016-08-15T07:43:50 < ReadError> no otg 2016-08-15T07:43:59 < zyp> ah 2016-08-15T07:44:03 < zyp> they have both 2016-08-15T07:44:15 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T07:44:29 < zyp> l4x2/l4x3 have crystalless device only, l4x5/l4x6 have OTG 2016-08-15T07:44:51 < ReadError> http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/389/DM00257205-957746.pdf 2016-08-15T07:45:48 < ReadError> https://developer.mbed.org/media/uploads/svastm/xnucleo32_revc_l432kc_mbed_pinout_v3_.png.pagespeed.ic.ypVgQMJiRh.png 2016-08-15T07:45:54 < ReadError> thats pretty smart of them 2016-08-15T07:46:04 < zyp> what's smart? 2016-08-15T07:46:13 < ReadError> the qfn inside the qfp 2016-08-15T07:46:25 < zyp> ah, that's a pretty normal trick 2016-08-15T07:47:19 < zyp> and on a lot of chinaboards, they have pads for wirebonding inside qfp footprint 2016-08-15T07:47:19 < ReadError> might as well grab one in my mooser order 2016-08-15T07:47:45 < ReadError> do they really save that much wirebonding ? 2016-08-15T07:47:54 < ReadError> seems like the process would be a lot more expensive unless you do a shitload 2016-08-15T07:48:19 < ReadError> obv they save some 2016-08-15T07:48:21 < zyp> that's what they do 2016-08-15T07:48:55 < zyp> I've mostly seen it on modules, like those hd44780 text lcds 2016-08-15T07:49:16 < jpa-> and it still beats trying to buy the QFN chip when the world has run out of them 2016-08-15T07:49:40 < jpa-> it's just pads until someone calculates that wirebonding is cheaper in the current situation 2016-08-15T08:29:56 < owl-v-> how do you implement soft reset ? 2016-08-15T08:30:44 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T08:34:09 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-15T08:35:22 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@64.137.198.24] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T08:36:25 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T08:37:47 < owl-v-> with CMSIS (HAL) and interrupt by a button or/and other communications (usb, uart, i2c, CAN, ...) 2016-08-15T08:39:53 < carabia> With sw4stm32 + CubeMX on STM32F7xx, aren't all the GPIO inits generated into Src/stm32f7xx_hal_msp.c? 2016-08-15T08:40:31 < carabia> ...as functions named HAL_PERIPH_MspInit() ? 2016-08-15T08:44:07 < jpa-> owl-v-: there is a function / register to reset the cpu, it will also toggle the external NRST pin 2016-08-15T08:44:43 < carabia> Because I was wondering why I can't get external SDRAM to work, and after hours of debugging it looks like CubeMX didn't generate any pin config for the peripheral (????), there's nothing related to SDRAM in stm32f7xx_hal_msp.c, and there's only the weak (+empty) function defined in the HAL-driver file (stm32f7xx_hal_sdram.c), is this a known bug? 2016-08-15T08:45:50 < jpa-> yeah, issue #1: using HAL/CubeMX 2016-08-15T08:47:18 < carabia> jpa-: well, CubeMX is _supposed_ to generate the init code so I don't have to write it by hand. Secondly, yes, HAL is bs. But I'm just trying to throw together a proof-of-concept. 2016-08-15T08:49:32 < carabia> I still prefer CubeMX to say, Atmel's ASF. If only CubeMX worked though... :) 2016-08-15T08:52:14 < carabia> Buut that's besides the point. However am I correct in assuming that all the GPIO inits are generated into hal_msp.c? Or am I missing some magic files? 2016-08-15T08:53:08 < ReadError> i thought it gave you the option to split it 2016-08-15T08:55:28 < carabia> ReadError: yeah, as in "generate peripheral initialization as a pair..."? 2016-08-15T08:55:44 < ReadError> separate files per peripheral 2016-08-15T08:55:51 < ReadError> idk i dont use cube 2016-08-15T08:56:14 < carabia> ReadError: yes that is implied. But no, I don't have it enabled. I guess I could enable it and see whether it actual generates a pin config 2016-08-15T08:56:37 < carabia> Haven't had problems with other peripherals, just sdram 2016-08-15T09:10:05 < carabia> Heh, yeah, actually when you set CubeMX to generate separate pinconfig-files, it does generate one for the FMC. 2016-08-15T09:10:28 < carabia> If you set it to generate them all into a single file, it doesn't. Who'd have thought. 2016-08-15T09:12:42 < owl-v-> on gpio port, pull up is for input and pull down is for output ?? 2016-08-15T09:12:49 < owl-v-> or is it the opposite ? 2016-08-15T09:13:24 < jpa-> what? 2016-08-15T09:13:54 < jpa-> they are both for inputs, you don't need pull-up/pull-down on output 2016-08-15T09:14:05 < owl-v-> ok 2016-08-15T09:34:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T09:36:17 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-15T10:05:24 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T10:09:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T10:22:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-15T10:25:43 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d4164d.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-15T10:36:09 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-15T10:45:15 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T10:48:01 -!- mra90 [~Martin@buz226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T10:50:26 < ReadError> wish there was a compatability matrix 2016-08-15T10:50:31 < ReadError> of pin compat devices 2016-08-15T10:59:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-15T11:18:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T11:21:34 < jpa-> ReadError: make one and publish it? 2016-08-15T11:21:54 < jpa-> IIRC you can get the parseable pin descriptions from microexplorer or whatever 2016-08-15T11:25:03 < owl-v-> I have failed on generating configuration using STM32CubeMX :( 2016-08-15T11:27:13 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T11:30:23 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-15T11:30:53 < ReadError> jpa- i dont care enough to make one 2016-08-15T11:31:04 < ReadError> it just would be nice information to have sometimes 2016-08-15T11:32:07 < ReadError> finishing this f0 devboard and was curious what else would fit that was all 2016-08-15T11:34:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T11:40:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.251] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T11:48:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-15T12:01:59 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T12:04:00 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-15T12:04:02 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T12:04:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-15T12:04:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-15T12:06:31 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T12:13:54 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-15T12:14:00 < owl-v-> should I use time interrupt for time delay ? 2016-08-15T12:14:12 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T12:15:26 < jpa-> ReadError: who are you making these devboards for? 2016-08-15T12:15:34 < ReadError> me 2016-08-15T12:15:39 < jpa-> owl-v-: depends totally on situation' 2016-08-15T12:16:17 < jpa-> ReadError: hmm, what benefit is there to making your own devboards, vs. just making the finished board, or buying premade devboards? 2016-08-15T12:16:27 < ReadError> jpa- lack of availability 2016-08-15T12:16:47 < jpa-> that's a benefit now? 2016-08-15T12:16:53 < dongs> http://www.digikey.com/short/3mw2jp 2016-08-15T12:17:05 < dongs> very lack, much availability 2016-08-15T12:17:30 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T12:19:13 < ReadError> they got things close but 1:1 2016-08-15T12:19:18 < ReadError> not 1:1 2016-08-15T12:20:02 < ReadError> and a lot of the nucleos have that new expensiver stuff 2016-08-15T12:22:38 < dongs> what is that red jst connector on small lipos 2016-08-15T12:22:50 < dongs> on like eflite 1S type shit 2016-08-15T12:22:55 < dongs> JST-?? 2016-08-15T12:23:50 < ReadError> are you cloning some tinywhoop charger shit 2016-08-15T12:24:52 < dongs> RCY, thank you. 2016-08-15T12:31:27 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/php/Coding-Site-Duplicating/ someone /msg ohsix 2016-08-15T12:31:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-15T12:40:35 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T12:42:24 -!- carabia [~carabia@unaffiliated/carabia] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-15T12:52:36 -!- mra90 [~Martin@buz226.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-15T13:02:34 -!- carabia [~carabia@unaffiliated/carabia] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T13:03:17 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T13:06:00 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T13:06:55 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-15T13:08:28 < owl-v-> dongs is alive on this channel !! 2016-08-15T13:08:32 < dongs> yes 2016-08-15T13:08:37 < Tectu> Hi folks o/ 2016-08-15T13:08:49 < dongs> just finished installing 16Ah 6S lipo in a bike 2016-08-15T13:09:57 < Tectu> why is everybody into ebikes these days? Am I missing something? 2016-08-15T13:10:34 < jpa-> it's better than pokemon go atleast 2016-08-15T13:10:50 < jpa-> do you bike? 2016-08-15T13:12:34 < dongs> tectu only writes ufgfx 2016-08-15T13:12:38 < dongs> unfgfx 2016-08-15T13:13:38 < zyp> Tectu, because it makes biking fun again 2016-08-15T13:13:46 < zyp> like when you were a kid and had unlimited energy 2016-08-15T13:14:38 < PaulFertser> How ebiking differs from riding a motorbike? 2016-08-15T13:14:53 < jpa-> PaulFertser: you still get quite a bit of exercise 2016-08-15T13:14:57 < zyp> you don't need a license 2016-08-15T13:15:04 < jpa-> plus not noisy, not smelly and can drive in nicer places 2016-08-15T13:15:11 < dongs> eh wat 2016-08-15T13:15:13 < dongs> JCSAT16 laucnhed 2016-08-15T13:16:20 < dongs> hm looks like a backup sat 2016-08-15T13:16:26 < dongs> jcsat-R must have started shitting itself 2016-08-15T13:16:52 < PaulFertser> jpa-: so you still have to wear heavy gear and on top of that you need to exercise? 2016-08-15T13:17:01 < zyp> PaulFertser, what gear? 2016-08-15T13:17:25 < jpa-> PaulFertser: nah, normal cycling gear is enough assuming one goes the legal speeds (which around here is 25km/h, so pretty much normal summer cycling speed) 2016-08-15T13:17:29 < dongs> oh they fucking sold jcsat-r 2016-08-15T13:17:34 < PaulFertser> zyp: protective clothing, helmet, everything that motorbikers do. 2016-08-15T13:17:36 < jpa-> so basically; helmet 2016-08-15T13:17:41 < zyp> PaulFertser, uh, no 2016-08-15T13:17:47 < jpa-> and even that is lighter helmet than motorbike helmet 2016-08-15T13:18:22 < jpa-> also, "need to exercise" - vs. - "get a chance to exercise" 2016-08-15T13:18:26 < zyp> PaulFertser, you've never ridden a bicycle before? 2016-08-15T13:18:43 < zyp> ebikes are like that, except less exhausting 2016-08-15T13:18:45 < PaulFertser> Well, duh, 25 km/h is a silly limit for an e-bike, on flat surface I can go with average 25 km/h on a normal bike for 100km, without chargers etc. 2016-08-15T13:19:09 < zyp> sure you can, but all surfaces aren't flat 2016-08-15T13:19:12 < jpa-> PaulFertser: so? with ebike you can do that in opposing wind and uphill 2016-08-15T13:19:17 < jpa-> that's pretty much the point 2016-08-15T13:19:24 < jpa-> makes all biking seem like nice downhill 2016-08-15T13:19:28 < PaulFertser> zyp: I have a cheap MTB, a novice road racing bicycles but I mostly have to ride a 125cc motorbike nowadays. 2016-08-15T13:19:42 < jpa-> "have to"? why? 2016-08-15T13:19:59 < PaulFertser> Too far to get to work for a normal bicycle, also, lack of suitable roads. 2016-08-15T13:20:04 < jpa-> how long? 2016-08-15T13:20:54 < PaulFertser> It can take 1.5 - 2 hrs on a bicycle and 40 - 60 mins on a motorbike. 2016-08-15T13:20:58 < PaulFertser> One way. 2016-08-15T13:21:12 < jpa-> so like 50km? 2016-08-15T13:21:14 < PaulFertser> Moscow's an insane place. Too big and the road system is badly designed. 2016-08-15T13:21:50 < PaulFertser> I think it's 25 km via highway (bicycles prohibited) and about 30km for a bicycle 2016-08-15T13:22:00 < jpa-> yeah, longish 2016-08-15T13:22:05 < zyp> I wouldn't want to commute that far by ebike 2016-08-15T13:22:23 < jpa-> i have just 7km one way, and even then ebike is a nice help in the winter (unnecessary in summer) 2016-08-15T13:23:26 < PaulFertser> 7km I would do in any weather :) 2016-08-15T13:23:36 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-15T13:23:37 < jpa-> yep 2016-08-15T13:23:45 < jpa-> move closer to work :P 2016-08-15T13:24:03 < PaulFertser> I'd rather move farther from russia 2016-08-15T13:24:21 < Tectu> jpa-, nope, I don't bike :) 2016-08-15T13:24:29 < jpa-> Tectu: then you are missing out indeed 2016-08-15T13:24:34 < jpa-> Tectu: how do you go to places? 2016-08-15T13:24:40 < Tectu> car / bus / train 2016-08-15T13:24:51 < Tectu> jpa- ^ 2016-08-15T13:25:41 < zyp> haha 2016-08-15T13:25:56 < jpa-> you're missing out on fresh air and exercise then :) 2016-08-15T13:26:15 < zyp> bike isn't really that convenient 2016-08-15T13:26:43 < jpa-> staying in basement is the most convenient :) 2016-08-15T13:26:57 < jpa-> if one bothers moving, might as well make the most out of it 2016-08-15T13:27:29 < Tectu> I don't bother moving. It's just that I live in the alps. biking is no fun here unless you are into useless biking such as downhill racing 2016-08-15T13:27:34 < zyp> beats walking, beats bus for shorter distances, beats car when parking is hard to find 2016-08-15T13:27:42 < jpa-> Tectu: ah, ebike fixes that 2016-08-15T13:28:27 < zyp> but for any sort of distance, bikes are rather slow 2016-08-15T13:28:41 < Tectu> jpa-, yep, just wanted to say what zyp stated 2016-08-15T13:28:44 < zyp> and the carry capacity is fairly limited 2016-08-15T13:29:19 < zyp> and you're subject to weather 2016-08-15T13:29:32 < jpa-> *you get to enjoy the weather 2016-08-15T13:29:40 < jpa-> bike's carry capacity is better than bus or train anyway :) 2016-08-15T13:29:43 < zyp> when it's enjoyable :p 2016-08-15T13:29:52 < PaulFertser> Here's what I think of when one says e-bike: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM9yn9I7PiA 2016-08-15T13:29:58 < Tectu> not when a group of more than one person is supposed to travel, Mr. jpa- 2016-08-15T13:30:13 < zyp> jpa-, uh, not really 2016-08-15T13:30:15 < jpa-> Tectu: ? then just multiple bikes 2016-08-15T13:30:27 < PaulFertser> Essentially, a DIY lightweight electric motorcycle. 2016-08-15T13:31:01 < jpa-> zyp: around here if you want something in bus or train you have to carry it in your hands and still be able to do the ticket stuff etc.; i can fit much more on my bike 2016-08-15T13:31:06 < Tectu> PaulFertser, please tell me that driving like that is not allowed. 2016-08-15T13:31:11 < zyp> PaulFertser, you could do that, but they aren't covered by ebike legislation 2016-08-15T13:31:26 < Tectu> jpa-, ever tried to bike with a shovel? 2016-08-15T13:31:54 < jpa-> no, but i would tie it lengthwise to the upper bar and the back rack 2016-08-15T13:32:04 < zyp> jpa-, what if you travel and carry a huge suitcase? 2016-08-15T13:32:34 < Tectu> zyp, 27"? :D 2016-08-15T13:32:37 < PaulFertser> Tectu: what exactly there? 2016-08-15T13:32:47 < zyp> Tectu, yeah, exactly 2016-08-15T13:32:47 < Tectu> PaulFertser, all of it o.O 2016-08-15T13:32:52 < jpa-> zyp: ok, true, that's one thing as travel bags are often designed for bus/train style situations 2016-08-15T13:32:59 < Tectu> PaulFertser, "passing" on the right side, driving between "columns" 2016-08-15T13:33:02 < PaulFertser> Tectu: adding an electric motor to a bicycle? 2016-08-15T13:33:07 < Tectu> PaulFertser, you drive like that here and 20km later police awaits you. 2016-08-15T13:33:18 < jpa-> if i'd have to do that often, i'd get a box bike or one with a trailer, and that would fix it 2016-08-15T13:33:20 < Tectu> PaulFertser, no, talking about the driving styile 2016-08-15T13:33:28 < PaulFertser> Tectu: lane splitting is legal here. Riding on pavements not. Passing on the right is legal too now. 2016-08-15T13:33:33 < Tectu> PaulFertser, switzerland has a very very very strict "driving law" 2016-08-15T13:33:55 < zyp> Tectu, that video is from russia, why are you surprised? 2016-08-15T13:33:57 < Tectu> jpa-, just admit that you are too poor to get a car :p 2016-08-15T13:34:03 < zyp> haven't you seen enough dashcam vids? 2016-08-15T13:34:04 < Tectu> zyp, yeah right? :p 2016-08-15T13:34:13 < PaulFertser> Tectu: if lane is really narrow enough to accomodate two vehicles side-by-side then it's ok to share it here. 2016-08-15T13:34:16 < Tectu> well I've been in a taxi in St. Petersburg and nearly lost my life twice 2016-08-15T13:34:17 < jpa-> Tectu: no, but i'll admit i'd be too lazy to get enough exercise otherwise 2016-08-15T13:34:28 < jpa-> that's why i won't be getting driver's license even though we do have a car 2016-08-15T13:34:36 < zyp> haha 2016-08-15T13:34:58 < zyp> I can't imagine getting by without a car/license 2016-08-15T13:35:04 < Tectu> jpa-, good excuse. Although a bit harsh to not get a license. one can get the license to have it when needed and still do bike. But then you will probably realize how restrictive bikes are. 2016-08-15T13:35:12 < Tectu> same here 2016-08-15T13:35:13 < jpa-> https://youtu.be/GsaQoF08VBk?t=50s driving in russia 2016-08-15T13:35:16 < Tectu> public transports here suck 2016-08-15T13:35:31 < Tectu> channel name.... "VodkaTVRussia" says it all 2016-08-15T13:35:34 < Tectu> hey Mr. Crt o/ 2016-08-15T13:35:43 < jpa-> i probably couldn't imagine it either if i wasn't doing it ;) 2016-08-15T13:36:03 < Tectu> jpa-, oh shit, that actually went way worse than expected 2016-08-15T13:36:20 < Tectu> PaulFertser, how come that there are so many russian dashcams? Is that a law? sport? culture? or just recommended? 2016-08-15T13:36:22 < jpa-> now our car has been broken for two weeks and we barely notice it 2016-08-15T13:36:30 < zyp> Tectu, insurance fraud 2016-08-15T13:37:03 < Tectu> never seen a single dash cam in switzerland 2016-08-15T13:37:05 < PaulFertser> Tectu: it's not prohibited and the video can be used as an argument to prove that you're not guilty in a road accident. 2016-08-15T13:37:17 < jpa-> Tectu: driving license is like 1500 EUR around here nowadays, so not worth it 2016-08-15T13:37:27 < Tectu> PaulFertser, let me guess, the camera suddenly didn't have an SD card in it when you fucked up? :p 2016-08-15T13:37:27 < zyp> only 1500 EUR? 2016-08-15T13:37:31 < zyp> that's cheap 2016-08-15T13:37:37 < zyp> :p 2016-08-15T13:37:42 < Tectu> 1500EUR? here it's about 6000 EUR (no kidding) 2016-08-15T13:37:42 < jpa-> :P 2016-08-15T13:37:53 < jpa-> hah 2016-08-15T13:38:03 < zyp> here it's probably around 3000 EUR nowadays 2016-08-15T13:38:03 < Tectu> I paid around 4'500 EUR but I did a lot of driving before 2016-08-15T13:38:22 < zyp> heh 2016-08-15T13:38:28 < Tectu> afaik my sister added up to 7.5k 2016-08-15T13:38:32 < zyp> Tectu, how much driving before is a lot? 2016-08-15T13:38:39 < Tectu> zyp, twelve 2016-08-15T13:38:49 < zyp> twelve what? 2016-08-15T13:38:54 < jpa-> twelve drivings 2016-08-15T13:38:55 < Tectu> :p 2016-08-15T13:39:08 < PaulFertser> Tectu: my commute often looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOj8NCp8yps . Riding on the left there is not allowed but the fine is not draconian (~25EUR) and I think it's safer to go to the left rather than splitlane on that particular road as it's customary by now. 2016-08-15T13:39:33 < Tectu> nah, not sure how it's there but here you can get some "aggraculture drivers license" when you are 14 years old, so I did a lot of driving with tractors, snowcats and such 2016-08-15T13:39:35 < Tectu> also motor bikes 2016-08-15T13:39:41 < Tectu> one can get a 50ccm license with 16 2016-08-15T13:39:54 < jpa-> if i'd put 6000 EUR to stocks and get some average 4% = 240 EUR/year, that could probably pay for all the taxi trips that i would have to take if my wife didn't drive :P 2016-08-15T13:40:26 < Tectu> agriculture according to google* 2016-08-15T13:41:06 < Tectu> taxis here are expensive as fuck. You are better of buying some gold. Seriously. 15km are like 80 eur (no kidding) 2016-08-15T13:41:11 < zyp> my brother wrote down and added up how much driving he were doing before he got his license, ended up somewhere north of 9000 km 2016-08-15T13:41:19 < jpa-> hah, 15km here is like 20 EUR 2016-08-15T13:41:23 < zyp> so I were just wondering how your «a lot» compares to that 2016-08-15T13:41:37 < Tectu> zyp, I didn't count kilometers, I'm sorry 2016-08-15T13:41:44 < Tectu> zyp, but more than 12 kilometers for sure :p 2016-08-15T13:42:12 < zyp> I don't have any idea for myself either, but I'm sure my brother got me beat by several times :p 2016-08-15T13:42:36 < Tectu> well, it's difficult to drive far with an EV I guess ;) 2016-08-15T13:42:37 < PaulFertser> My wife's getting car driving licence soon, I guess it'll be less then 500EUR overall ;) 2016-08-15T13:42:46 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-15T13:42:56 < Tectu> 500 EUR doesn't buy you much around here :( 2016-08-15T13:43:05 < dongs> not even hookers? 2016-08-15T13:43:05 < zyp> Tectu, I've passed 11000km in my EV so far 2016-08-15T13:43:06 < PaulFertser> But rubles got quite cheap lately, our income is laughable too if you convert to euros. 2016-08-15T13:43:18 < jpa-> but overall i believe that up to some 20 hour/week exercise is a worthy investment of time 2016-08-15T13:43:20 < Tectu> dongs, they start at ~300 eur / hour if you don't want some crackhead 2016-08-15T13:43:23 < zyp> Tectu, averaging 2000km/month 2016-08-15T13:43:44 < Tectu> jpa-, with that I agree. I don't even get 20 minutes ;) 2016-08-15T13:43:58 < Tectu> zyp, does that include sitting on the ferry? ;) 2016-08-15T13:44:41 < Tectu> jpa-, somehow I didn't find the motivation to do any exercising yet as I am rather slim. 2016-08-15T13:44:48 < zyp> it includes driving onto the ferry and off of it 2016-08-15T13:44:59 < PaulFertser> I've read that in Switzerland you just buy a motorbike (any), get a learner's permit for real cheap, then ride a year on your own, then pass exam for cheap and you're all set. 2016-08-15T13:45:06 < Tectu> zyp, does the ferry happen to have an EV fast charger? Just curious. 2016-08-15T13:45:12 < zyp> no 2016-08-15T13:45:23 < Tectu> PaulFertser, yes, but that requires that you already have a car license. 2016-08-15T13:45:26 < jpa-> Tectu: as for the relative convenience of biking, http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/09/18/is-it-convenient-would-i-enjoy-it-wrong-question/ ;) 2016-08-15T13:45:39 < zyp> Tectu, and for myself that would be completely pointless 2016-08-15T13:45:52 < jpa-> Tectu: yeah, i've never had any worries with weight myself either 2016-08-15T13:46:09 < Tectu> jpa-, I'll give that a read later 2016-08-15T13:46:27 < zyp> Tectu, I live minutes away from the ferry, so the car is either fully charged from home or about to get home and charged every time I take the ferry 2016-08-15T13:46:34 < Tectu> zyp, I have no ferry experience. I assume that a trip is like 20 minutes and afaik you told me once that 20 minutes is a decent time for a fast charger 2016-08-15T13:46:42 < Tectu> zyp, oh, that. 2016-08-15T13:46:44 < zyp> that much is true 2016-08-15T13:47:03 < zyp> this ferry is 35 minutes, and that would be more than enough 2016-08-15T13:48:23 < jpa-> i guess charger on ferry would mean charging your nice clean EV with messy marine diesel engine? 2016-08-15T13:50:25 < zyp> these particular ferries runs on natural gas 2016-08-15T13:50:30 < zyp> but yeah 2016-08-15T13:51:06 < jpa-> natural gas is pretty good i guess; some boat engines are really messy 2016-08-15T13:52:03 < jpa-> lots of CO2 from everything of course but i'm kind of the opinion that human kind will use up all liquid/gas fossil fuels within 100 years anyway; only coal is worth regulating :P 2016-08-15T13:52:13 < zyp> LNG with CNG backup, it says 2016-08-15T13:53:42 < ReadError> but hey, in 100 years 2016-08-15T13:53:54 < ReadError> yea, everyone here will be head 2016-08-15T13:53:59 < ReadError> dead, too 2016-08-15T13:54:22 < ReadError> smoke em if you got em 2016-08-15T13:54:31 < ReadError> ships sinking 2016-08-15T13:54:41 < jpa-> yeah, but what difference does it make whether we use it up in 20 years or 100 years? 2016-08-15T13:55:14 < ReadError> lubes 2016-08-15T13:55:25 < ReadError> they still not perfected synthetics ? 2016-08-15T13:55:56 < ReadError> no need 2016-08-15T13:56:08 < ReadError> splash 2016-08-15T13:56:22 < ReadError> back on topic 2016-08-15T13:56:35 < Tectu> did anybody ever build some SDL2 program on Ubuntu recently? 2016-08-15T13:56:50 < Tectu> I installed libsdl2-dev but it doesn't find the libs upon linking 2016-08-15T13:57:39 < ReadError> I only use linux products that have murders/insanity behind them 2016-08-15T13:57:48 < PaulFertser> Tectu: are you using pkg-config or appropriate sdl-config to get LDFLAGS? 2016-08-15T13:57:55 < Tectu> ReadError, reiserfs? :D 2016-08-15T13:58:02 < ReadError> Tectu ya, debian 2016-08-15T13:58:05 < ReadError> too 2016-08-15T13:58:16 < Tectu> PaulFertser, yeah I added this to my CFLAGS / LDFLAGS: `sdl2-config --cflags --libs` 2016-08-15T13:58:36 < Tectu> PaulFertser, http://paste.ugfx.org/show/ede011b9b7 2016-08-15T13:58:55 < Tectu> PaulFertser, executing sdl2-config --cflags --libs in the terminal manually yields appropriate paths 2016-08-15T13:59:18 < zyp> are you trying to build 32-bit and link that with 64-bit libs? 2016-08-15T13:59:26 < zyp> hence incompatible 2016-08-15T13:59:32 < Tectu> oh 2016-08-15T13:59:40 < Tectu> yes I am building a 32-bit app 2016-08-15T13:59:48 < zyp> see, that's your problem 2016-08-15T14:00:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T14:00:21 < Tectu> time to figure out how to list available (32-bit) packages on ubuntu 2016-08-15T14:00:35 < ReadError> just build another 32bit one ;p 2016-08-15T14:00:47 < ReadError> have 1 for each, way easier 2016-08-15T14:02:17 < zyp> why not just build the app as 64-bit? 2016-08-15T14:02:24 < zyp> mixing 32 and 64 is kinda stupid 2016-08-15T14:02:29 < zyp> mostly because of the hassle 2016-08-15T14:02:35 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-08-15T14:03:31 < zyp> on windows everybody are shipping their own libs anyway 2016-08-15T14:04:34 < ReadError> ooops i meant build another ubuntu machine 2016-08-15T14:15:30 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-15T14:22:20 < Tectu> thanks zyp 64-bit vs. 32-bit was the issue 2016-08-15T14:22:24 < Tectu> also thanks at Mr. PaulFertser 2016-08-15T14:25:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.193] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T14:31:31 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-15T14:31:56 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T14:33:03 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T14:35:27 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@64.137.198.24] has quit [] 2016-08-15T14:35:37 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T14:36:04 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T14:45:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-15T15:01:41 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T15:22:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-15T15:27:33 < Getty> oh yeah chinese production... lovely 2016-08-15T15:28:01 < Getty> now (after the 2nd charge) the customer noticed that the lights go off if set to 30% (which is then a 7/1000 pwm value) and i was like "yeah no way, cant be" 2016-08-15T15:28:06 < Getty> but yeah... the chinese made it possible 2016-08-15T15:28:52 < jpa-> i've seen similar funny effects especially with blue leds 2016-08-15T15:28:57 < jpa-> (blue/white) 2016-08-15T15:29:09 < jpa-> i think it has something to do with forward voltage and capacitance 2016-08-15T15:29:27 < Getty> could it be like that the resistors are not proper? 2016-08-15T15:29:55 < Getty> i mean of course it could be always that they used proper resistors by definition and then got broken charges of them 2016-08-15T15:30:09 < Getty> but i am more likely assuming they actually really put on wrong resistors 2016-08-15T15:30:29 < Getty> its just near impossible to find that out..... given how small they are 8-) 2016-08-15T15:30:35 < jpa-> in theory, ideal leds with 0 capacitance would always turn on at no matter how small PWM ratio 2016-08-15T15:30:44 < jpa-> no multimeter? 2016-08-15T15:31:12 < jpa-> but real LEDs have capacitance, which causes them to stop turning on at very small PWM ratios, as the capacitance doesn't have enough time to charge to Vf 2016-08-15T15:31:22 < Getty> i am no electronican ;) i would have to learn that, still the resistors are like industrial production small 2016-08-15T15:31:37 < Getty> oh the LEDs are not the problem for sure, i think i know what "Other leds" you talk about, as we had them as test series 2016-08-15T15:33:02 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-15T15:33:23 < Getty> the bigger problem, independent of the electronical solution of it, is how to cover this via software 2016-08-15T15:33:44 < Getty> there are like 200-300 of them now already out, and software technical its easy to fix, just going higher with the base value 2016-08-15T15:33:59 < Getty> but the challenge is ...... what device is old and what deivce is china ;) they are for the CPU identical 2016-08-15T15:34:21 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T15:34:42 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-15T15:37:24 < Getty> in da led controller business, bro 2016-08-15T15:37:47 < Getty> but not really anymore, want to go away from the electronics again 2016-08-15T15:38:07 < Getty> but if you once start the show you cant go out easily ;) 2016-08-15T15:39:27 < Getty> shutting down a website is way easier ;) 2016-08-15T15:41:39 < Getty> yeah its kinda awkward situation dealing with chinese 2016-08-15T15:41:44 < Getty> you cant nail them on problems 2016-08-15T15:41:54 < Getty> you must be like finding the problem and telling them how to solve it 2016-08-15T15:42:00 < Getty> and then hopefully you get that ;) 2016-08-15T15:52:49 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@host-95-194-7-198.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I have arrived 2016-08-15T17:12:55 < Rob235> haven't touched it in a couple days, waiting for my gf to be off work so we can take it out somewhere 2016-08-15T17:13:51 < Rob235> I believe so, led library isn't 100% but who cares, PID just needs to be set I hope 2016-08-15T17:21:52 < Rob235> and a rocket launcher 2016-08-15T17:22:07 < Rob235> I shouldn't joke about that 2016-08-15T17:22:09 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-15T17:22:21 < Rob235> I just registered my drone yesterday so I'm legal 2016-08-15T17:23:39 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T17:24:42 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T17:25:11 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD24849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-15T17:26:43 < Laurenceb> suppp 2016-08-15T17:26:54 < Laurenceb> lul @ Russia beating Germany in medals table 2016-08-15T17:26:56 < Rob235> man, I don't know what to do right now 2016-08-15T17:26:59 < Rob235> or today in general 2016-08-15T17:27:23 < Laurenceb> Merkel rage mode 2016-08-15T17:28:01 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T17:29:53 < Laurenceb> me neither 2016-08-15T17:30:03 < Laurenceb> just enjoying the salt 2016-08-15T17:30:30 < Laurenceb> lol 2016-08-15T17:30:50 < Laurenceb> olympic "making bluetooth work" 2016-08-15T17:31:10 < Laurenceb> now olympic record: 10 bytes/second 2016-08-15T17:32:58 < Rob235> I think I need a change... I'm going to work on two other projects today... 2016-08-15T17:33:22 < Rob235> finalizing a project is boring as hell, I'm tired of checking this drone code 2016-08-15T17:33:28 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-08-15T17:37:16 < Laurenceb> I have to hand assemble a load of datalogger panels :-/ 2016-08-15T17:42:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-15T17:57:40 < Laurenceb> http://s4.b3ta.com/host/creative/84237/1471133096/dennistherc01.jpg 2016-08-15T18:12:42 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T18:15:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T18:25:17 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-08-15T18:44:26 -!- mra90 [~Martin@btt108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T19:04:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T19:14:25 < jadew> "stop spamming my account or I'll call the troll police!" 2016-08-15T19:14:32 < jadew> ah, scrollback 2016-08-15T19:14:33 < jadew> sorry 2016-08-15T19:14:39 < Steffanx> Lolyou. 2016-08-15T19:16:26 < Laurenceb> is that the new channel topic? 2016-08-15T19:16:40 < Steffanx> I wonder if there is someone that actually checks the time in front of a message. 2016-08-15T19:17:09 < jadew> for me, it's like it's not even there 2016-08-15T19:17:30 < jadew> it serves as identing 2016-08-15T19:17:34 < ReadError> mostly just for grepping purposes 2016-08-15T19:17:39 < Steffanx> Yes. Yet i would be annoyed when its actually not there 2016-08-15T19:18:18 < Steffanx> Hah yes. Identation it is. 2016-08-15T19:21:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-15T19:24:15 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T19:33:04 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T19:39:41 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T19:42:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@195.198.1.149] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T19:44:29 < jadew> "Bruce Lee Knew About It - Was Bruce Lee A Member Of Flat Earth Society?" 2016-08-15T19:47:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@195.198.1.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-15T19:59:59 < Laurenceb> watching peladophobian? 2016-08-15T20:02:40 < jadew> no, but it has to be some troll video 2016-08-15T20:03:42 < jadew> I think everyone gets so worked up about it because they know that some idiots will believe this crap and then everyone else will have to deal with them 2016-08-15T20:04:21 < jadew> reminds me of a conversation I had at my dad's birthday a couple of weeks back 2016-08-15T20:04:52 < jadew> I was trying to build a point so I start with: "Ok, we are all in agreement that evolution and natural selection are real, right?" 2016-08-15T20:05:12 < jadew> at which point more than half of the people I was talking to were like "Well..." 2016-08-15T20:07:13 < jadew> of course I had to get into explaining natural selection and why evolution happens because of it, but I could never finish any of the arguments, because I got into smaller details they disagreed with, like dinosaurs 2016-08-15T20:07:40 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T20:07:40 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-15T20:07:40 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T20:07:43 < jadew> "So you believe there were giant insects on earth, but you don't believe in older, technologically advanced civilizations?" 2016-08-15T20:07:49 < Steffanx> isn't romania kinda catholic or something? 2016-08-15T20:08:04 < jadew> orthodox, but yeah, same shit 2016-08-15T20:08:15 < Steffanx> yes or that. 2016-08-15T20:11:53 < jadew> and I got into the evolution topic by trying to debunk telepathy and psychic powers [:facepalm:] 2016-08-15T20:12:30 < Steffanx> HAHA 2016-08-15T20:12:50 < PaulFertser> I've listened to an orthodox giving interview on radio today. He's a famous person here, was the main PR figure for the russian orthodox church. He was talking today about how "the fifth column" (opposition that can probably takeover the kremlin) should be literally killed because God wants it. 2016-08-15T20:13:28 < Steffanx> Where God = putin? 2016-08-15T20:13:54 < jadew> I think the problem is that there's just too much disinformation around 2016-08-15T20:14:01 < jadew> the people I was talking to were resonably intelligent 2016-08-15T20:14:15 < PaulFertser> That wasn't implied actually. According to him I think putin is lead by god or some such. 2016-08-15T20:15:53 < PaulFertser> When the interviewer said that it's totally nazi to say such a thing and that it's anti-humane and anti-christianity, he said that christianity is not about humanism and retold a story from bible about how there was a blind man living his life just so that jesus healed him to proof his all-mighty. 2016-08-15T20:16:50 < PaulFertser> And that humanism is a dangerous heresy and that true christians must be ready to suffer. 2016-08-15T20:17:31 < jadew> don't know, they have different teachings here 2016-08-15T20:17:42 < jadew> but true believers buy everything the priests have to say 2016-08-15T20:17:57 < jadew> in here they tell their followers who to vote for 2016-08-15T20:18:17 < jadew> and they do 2016-08-15T20:19:00 < PaulFertser> Here's the part that he referred to: http://biblehub.com/john/9-2.htm 2016-08-15T20:21:16 < jadew> what's the morale of that story? I don't get it 2016-08-15T20:22:54 < upgrdman> anyone here played with altera fpgas? 2016-08-15T20:23:58 < PaulFertser> I think that orthodox implied that if that's better for the believers as community, then every individual must accept his destiny, even if god decided that he needs to suffer to serve as an example of god all-mightiness. 2016-08-15T20:24:31 < PaulFertser> A nice parallel to nazi ideology, heh. 2016-08-15T20:26:01 < PaulFertser> This story http://biblehub.com/bsb/john/9.htm shows how god made a man suffer by making him born blind and beg for food for years and then healing him as a nice PR stunt to gain more followers. 2016-08-15T20:26:14 < PaulFertser> And the orthodox said it's the right thing to do for god. 2016-08-15T20:26:32 < jadew> hehe 2016-08-15T20:35:28 < PaulFertser> And btw he made a factual mistake claiming it was pharisees who asked why the man was blind, and according to the text it was just regular "disciples". 2016-08-15T20:36:15 < Rob235> ughh religion... 2016-08-15T20:36:26 < Rob235> no thanks 2016-08-15T20:39:53 < upgrdman> just go smoke your e-cig, rob. that'll make all the pain go away. 2016-08-15T20:48:56 < Laurenceb> what the heck 2016-08-15T20:49:02 < Laurenceb> this channel just went full chan 2016-08-15T20:49:10 < Laurenceb> what are we even talking about 2016-08-15T20:56:32 < Steffanx> You have many rights Laurenceb, but you dont have the right to complain about something like this. :P 2016-08-15T20:57:28 < kakimir> are we getting all biblical here? 2016-08-15T20:57:56 < Laurenceb> its like /christian/, /pol/, and /b/ furiously collided 2016-08-15T20:58:02 < Steffanx> 4chan, biblical, whats the difference? 2016-08-15T20:58:24 < jadew> is 4chan like reddit? 2016-08-15T20:58:42 < Steffanx> no, 4chan is like ##stm32. A crap dump. 2016-08-15T20:59:20 < jadew> I always avoided it because I thought that's where sex offenders hang out 2016-08-15T20:59:47 < Steffanx> mr l. could tell you all about it. 2016-08-15T21:03:40 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:03:43 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@w193-11-200-250.eduroam.sunet.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T21:05:10 < kakimir> #bible32 2016-08-15T21:05:37 < jadew> I've always been meaning to read the bible 2016-08-15T21:05:59 < jadew> I only listened to it on casette tapes, every night, when I was little 2016-08-15T21:06:00 < ReadError> jadew true story 2016-08-15T21:06:04 < ReadError> 4chan is full of pedos 2016-08-15T21:07:26 < PaulFertser> jadew: that biblehub looks like a worthy resource, as it has plenty of cross-references and you can see how self-contradictory it is by comparing same stories from different evangelists ;) 2016-08-15T21:07:43 < jadew> hehe 2016-08-15T21:07:49 < jadew> thanks 2016-08-15T21:07:52 < jadew> I'll bookmark it 2016-08-15T21:08:21 < jadew> I should allocate a full week to bible study 2016-08-15T21:08:56 < kakimir> full week of wASTE 2016-08-15T21:09:04 < PaulFertser> Then you'll be able to beat "believers" by their own "weapon". 2016-08-15T21:09:16 < jadew> PaulFertser, precisely :D 2016-08-15T21:09:23 < kakimir> I have better idea 2016-08-15T21:09:39 < PaulFertser> Firearms? 2016-08-15T21:10:41 < kakimir> smoke that shit and skip right to the book of revelation 2016-08-15T21:12:26 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:8d64:5992:cc5e:883b] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:12:51 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-5eea2170-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:13:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:8d64:5992:cc5e:883b] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-15T21:14:08 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5g4RpVp4D4 musics? 2016-08-15T21:15:51 < kakimir> tite 2016-08-15T21:16:56 < jadew> I'm into this since TY autoplay's feature drifted into it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rxl5KsPjs#t=4m00s 2016-08-15T21:17:03 < jadew> *YT's 2016-08-15T21:17:30 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-5eea2170-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T21:18:29 < kakimir> your coding tunes? 2016-08-15T21:19:03 < jadew> yeah, but I can listen to anything really 2016-08-15T21:19:07 < jadew> including TV shows 2016-08-15T21:19:15 < jadew> but that 2016-08-15T21:19:20 < jadew> but that's what I'm into right now 2016-08-15T21:22:25 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-5eea2170-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:22:36 < jadew> apparently the guy composed that after having a dream about the devil playing something similar to him 2016-08-15T21:23:01 < kakimir> friend wants me to drive his to be extended flatbed truck 2016-08-15T21:23:11 < Steffanx> do it. 2016-08-15T21:23:14 < kakimir> I have mixed feelings about it 2016-08-15T21:23:21 < Steffanx> Do it. Video it. Youtube it. 2016-08-15T21:23:32 < kakimir> I wont 2016-08-15T21:23:40 < kakimir> video it 2016-08-15T21:23:48 < Steffanx> kakimir needs some thrill in his life. 2016-08-15T21:23:58 < jadew> don't you need a special license for that? 2016-08-15T21:24:25 < Steffanx> You can listen to anything jadew? For real? Even some seriously super dark metal grunching stuff? 2016-08-15T21:24:38 < Steffanx> or boom boom hardcore? 2016-08-15T21:25:01 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d4164d.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:25:06 < kakimir> jadew: no 2016-08-15T21:25:09 < jadew> Steffanx, I have to enjoy the music 2016-08-15T21:25:19 < jadew> the shows not so much, because I can just not pay attention 2016-08-15T21:25:37 < jadew> the point is to isolate me from the rest of the house and other external noises 2016-08-15T21:25:53 < Steffanx> Ah ok, so not anything :P 2016-08-15T21:25:55 < kakimir> just truck trailer combo licence and "professionality licence" 2016-08-15T21:26:08 < kakimir> for commersial use of truck trailer 2016-08-15T21:26:09 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, not anything :P 2016-08-15T21:26:51 < jadew> kakimir, yeah, those professional licenses are not easy to get in here 2016-08-15T21:26:59 < jadew> you have to learn how to fix the damn car 2016-08-15T21:27:16 < Steffanx> I prefer to listen to something like 2 steps from hell over the pure classical stuff. Trailer music <3 2016-08-15T21:27:50 < Steffanx> Funny name for a company that does music like they do. 2016-08-15T21:27:50 < jadew> Steffanx, sounds nice 2016-08-15T21:28:14 < jadew> very motivational 2016-08-15T21:28:25 < kakimir> jadew: here you pay 500euros and sit 5 evenings in classes 2016-08-15T21:28:42 < kakimir> you can even take same class 5times 2016-08-15T21:28:50 < jadew> heh 2016-08-15T21:28:52 < Steffanx> jadew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3P2iaWma-Y and they also have their own public channel. 2016-08-15T21:29:11 < jadew> Steffanx, that's what I'm listening to right now 2016-08-15T21:29:13 < jadew> sounds good 2016-08-15T21:29:14 < Steffanx> heh 2016-08-15T21:29:14 < kakimir> and it counts as 5hours of professional courses 2016-08-15T21:29:28 < Steffanx> that 1-hour epic one? 2016-08-15T21:29:37 < jadew> yeah, I like it 2016-08-15T21:29:52 < Steffanx> it does have a few in it that make me totally feel weird, but .. that's probably just me. 2016-08-15T21:30:10 < jadew> but it almost makes me want to get off of my chair and embark on a make believe adventure 2016-08-15T21:30:46 < Steffanx> ok then skip to https://youtu.be/S3P2iaWma-Y?t=17m38s and that will probably fade :P 2016-08-15T21:31:22 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-5eea2170-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T21:33:37 < Steffanx> it's funny how semi-everyone knows hans zimmer, but not those guys. 2016-08-15T21:34:13 < kakimir> what is exciting is that I get to drive cross borders 2016-08-15T21:34:31 < kakimir> to Svensson land 2016-08-15T21:34:55 < Steffanx> Svensson lives in belgium. 2016-08-15T21:35:35 < jadew> Steffanx, that music is great for bible study too lol 2016-08-15T21:35:42 < Steffanx> lol no. 2016-08-15T21:35:45 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@62.119.166.1] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:37:52 < Steffanx> Other study/programming, sure :P 2016-08-15T21:44:39 < Steffanx> that music you posted made me thing of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rce8QnuFRVk immediatly mr kakimir. 2016-08-15T21:44:49 < Steffanx> *think 2016-08-15T21:44:58 < Steffanx> also immediately 2016-08-15T21:45:19 < kakimir> classiks! 2016-08-15T21:45:40 < Steffanx> A bit faster maybe, but.. 2016-08-15T21:46:39 < Steffanx> Yes, at least something good by the russians :P 2016-08-15T21:48:11 < Fleck> there are many good russian songs, imo. 2016-08-15T21:48:38 < Steffanx> Example? 2016-08-15T21:48:46 < jadew> the red march 2016-08-15T21:49:51 < Steffanx> What's next Hell March? 2016-08-15T21:50:00 < Fleck> Steffanx: yt best russian songs and have examples :D 2016-08-15T21:50:17 < Steffanx> but then your opinion is not included. 2016-08-15T21:50:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:895e:c514:6b59:10e0] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:52:32 < jadew> for programming I also had a psychobilly period 2016-08-15T21:53:01 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RKZpKkgWMM 2016-08-15T21:54:01 < kakimir> what is this jadew ? 2016-08-15T21:54:10 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FBlLSI6lak 2016-08-15T21:54:24 < Fleck> Steffanx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdQjNXnS-P0 2016-08-15T21:54:39 < kakimir> ska? 2016-08-15T21:54:51 < jadew> kakimir, rokabilly with a horror cliche twist 2016-08-15T21:54:58 < kakimir> russian? 2016-08-15T21:55:00 < jadew> no 2016-08-15T21:55:10 < jadew> I don't know any russian songs 2016-08-15T21:55:27 < jadew> oh wait, I know one or two 2016-08-15T21:55:42 < Fleck> tetris song? :D 2016-08-15T21:55:44 -!- mra90 [~Martin@btt108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-15T21:56:23 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G335DVVsB3M 2016-08-15T21:56:34 < jadew> I know that one 2016-08-15T21:56:42 < Fleck> I know that one too 2016-08-15T21:56:49 < Steffanx> i dont 2016-08-15T21:56:51 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T21:56:58 < Steffanx> guess it never made it into western europe 2016-08-15T21:57:34 < kakimir> jadew: I didn't know I like this genre 2016-08-15T21:57:48 < jadew> kakimir, which genre? 2016-08-15T21:58:07 < kakimir> rokabilly+horror chiche 2016-08-15T21:58:13 < jadew> psychobilly, yeah 2016-08-15T21:58:21 < jadew> it took me by surprise too 2016-08-15T21:58:27 < jadew> it's fun 2016-08-15T22:02:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T22:02:54 < kakimir> but that has ska in it 2016-08-15T22:03:10 < kakimir> I think 2016-08-15T22:04:46 < Steffanx> ska? 2016-08-15T22:04:57 < kakimir> genre 2016-08-15T22:05:29 < Steffanx> sounds like something i would never listen to 2016-08-15T22:07:17 < BrainDamage> ska can be nice, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJxCyVJLiyY 2016-08-15T22:07:57 < BrainDamage> altought that's more ska-swing 2016-08-15T22:16:12 < upgrdman> in windows task manager > performance graphs, the cpu graphs have a "show kernel times" ... what is that? like time "wasted" waiting instead of processing data? 2016-08-15T22:36:28 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d4164d.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-15T22:37:16 < upgrdman> programming pros: i need a data structure like a list, but i want it to only keep the N most recent entries. so like a ring buffer, but i want to use indicies like a spare list. e.g. if my list holds the 10 most recent, and in the past there were 90 entries that have since been flushed, i want the first thing in my list to have an index of 91. 2016-08-15T22:37:59 < upgrdman> does this exist, or should i just use a ring buffer and manually remap the indicies? 2016-08-15T22:40:19 < jadew> upgrdman, for the first issue, yeah, it's wait times 2016-08-15T22:40:34 < jadew> the time the OS spends processing requests from the user land 2016-08-15T22:40:36 < upgrdman> ok. and only wait times effect that? 2016-08-15T22:40:45 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-15T22:40:48 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-15T22:40:53 < jadew> the kernel doesn't do much in terms of processing 2016-08-15T22:41:02 < jadew> so it's usually just waiting on I/O 2016-08-15T22:41:40 < upgrdman> or that means i need to step up my concurreny locking game. ~50% waiting :( my code is bad and i should feel bad. 2016-08-15T22:41:46 < upgrdman> s/or/so 2016-08-15T22:41:50 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T22:42:44 < jadew> about the second thing, I can't think of a data structure that would behave like that by default, but you can use a map and remove the first item whenever it's above the set size 2016-08-15T22:42:58 < upgrdman> hm. 2016-08-15T22:43:11 < jadew> you can derive from std::map if you're using c++ and override [] to implement the needed behaviour 2016-08-15T22:43:21 < upgrdman> ya that'd work. but i guess i should be more pro and use an array/ringBuffer to minimize overhead 2016-08-15T22:43:22 < jadew> (to remove the first element when a new one is added) 2016-08-15T22:45:03 < jadew> depends on the resources you have available and the way you're planning to use it 2016-08-15T22:45:11 < jadew> is it for embeded environment or desktop? 2016-08-15T22:45:13 < Steffanx> a ringbuffer and do last + 1 is just it not? Or does it even have to know it when you somehow cleared all entries? 2016-08-15T22:45:32 < jadew> if it's for desktop, inherit from whatever feels right right now and you can reimplement it later 2016-08-15T22:45:49 < jadew> you can do it with a vector too and remove the offset 2016-08-15T22:46:28 < jadew> again, depends on how you use it, a vector could be faster if you're doing a lot of reads 2016-08-15T22:46:31 < upgrdman> ya i can and should just rework my code so it doesnt use the lifetime-counter indicies 2016-08-15T22:46:44 < upgrdman> its desktop 2016-08-15T22:47:12 < Steffanx> c++? 2016-08-15T22:47:36 < upgrdman> im graphing shit, live. and the chart lib is slow as fuck with big datasets, so i kinda wrote my own line chart function. to make it fast, i cache old readings (as images) since its just sliding across the screen as new line data comes in 2016-08-15T22:47:38 < upgrdman> java 2016-08-15T22:48:06 < upgrdman> ya i just need to clean up my code. simple array should be plenty good enough 2016-08-15T22:48:52 < upgrdman> kinda pissed that i have to write my own chart function though. i guess not many software devs graph large datasets of *live* data 2016-08-15T22:49:24 < Steffanx> yes i cannot image something like this does not exists. Although it me cost a shitload of money 2016-08-15T22:49:24 < upgrdman> also, lolwut. my cpu usages goes to like 50% when i type in this fucking IRC client 2016-08-15T22:49:30 < upgrdman> is spellcheck that cpu intensive? 2016-08-15T22:50:10 < upgrdman> Steffanx, ya im sure theres ready made shit for the financial industry to use, and priced accordingly :/ 2016-08-15T22:51:12 < upgrdman> althrough even with my poorly written chart code, i went from 40ms per frame (with a lib) to around 12ms per frame (with my code) ... on a 4K monitor 2016-08-15T22:51:46 < upgrdman> hopefully with some tweaking i can get that to <8ms which would give me plenty of headroom for 60fps 2016-08-15T22:51:56 < Steffanx> used the non-free scichart at while ago, but that's C#. Must say the lib was surprisingly nice. 2016-08-15T22:52:16 < upgrdman> is that one time cost or subscr? 2016-08-15T22:52:21 < Steffanx> one time. 2016-08-15T22:52:25 < upgrdman> how much 2016-08-15T22:52:35 < Steffanx> $500+ iirc 2016-08-15T22:52:39 < upgrdman> :/ 2016-08-15T22:52:44 < Steffanx> but, i cannot image, a basic fifo-ish mode does not exist in some free java lib. 2016-08-15T22:53:00 < upgrdman> oh well, most of the code i needed to write is done. now i just need to clean up and optimize memory usage. 2016-08-15T22:53:21 < upgrdman> ya i'll look through the Java Collections docs. im sure its there somewhere 2016-08-15T22:53:29 < Steffanx> http://www.jfree.org/jfreechart/api/javadoc/org/jfree/data/time/DynamicTimeSeriesCollection.html 2016-08-15T22:53:33 < Steffanx> thats what you need not? 2016-08-15T22:53:53 < Steffanx> Yet i dont know anything about java and it's lib. so no clue if this is any good. 2016-08-15T22:54:14 < Steffanx> "for real-time applications this subclass adds the ability to append new data and discard the oldest." 2016-08-15T22:55:14 < upgrdman> ya thats the lib i was using 2016-08-15T22:55:18 < upgrdman> its actually very nice 2016-08-15T22:55:34 < upgrdman> but its not meant for 60fps rendering of 30,000+ points 2016-08-15T22:55:49 < Steffanx> oh, you want to render that many 2016-08-15T22:55:56 < upgrdman> at a minimum 2016-08-15T22:56:01 < Steffanx> it has no automatic sub-sampling mode? 2016-08-15T22:56:23 < upgrdman> not that i found. 2016-08-15T22:56:42 < Steffanx> im surprised. 2016-08-15T22:57:13 < upgrdman> ya i've used the lib for a while. every time i hit a road block i find some port on their official forum where they said its not meant for that :( 2016-08-15T22:57:25 < kakimir> they actually pressurize autoclave when curing laminates guise! 2016-08-15T22:57:37 < Steffanx> ok kakimir. 2016-08-15T22:57:39 < kakimir> when someone said "just vacuum" 2016-08-15T22:57:40 < upgrdman> it can do static but interactive graphs very well 2016-08-15T22:57:51 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d4164d.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T22:57:55 < kakimir> *they may pressurize 2016-08-15T22:57:56 < upgrdman> and it can do live graphs very well if the dataset is small enough 2016-08-15T22:58:00 < Steffanx> Sounds like a pretty basic feature, something like sub-sampling on a large dataset 2016-08-15T22:58:57 < upgrdman> im also kinda butthurt that its not gpu-accelerated and there are no plans for that 2016-08-15T22:59:30 < upgrdman> so im half tempted to learn a bit of opengl and give that a try so in the future i can go full retard and plot fucktons of shit at 60fps 2016-08-15T22:59:40 < upgrdman> might as well put my gtx1080 to good use :) 2016-08-15T22:59:51 < Steffanx> what kind of realtime 30k+ points data you plot? 2016-08-15T22:59:59 < upgrdman> shit from mcu 2016-08-15T23:00:13 < upgrdman> xray system telemetry 2016-08-15T23:00:13 < Steffanx> better export to excel then :D 2016-08-15T23:00:23 < upgrdman> ya i have export to csv working. 2016-08-15T23:00:29 < Steffanx> oh, sounds like work stuff 2016-08-15T23:00:34 < upgrdman> but live views are very nice for R&D / troubleshooting 2016-08-15T23:00:47 < upgrdman> ya. work but i'll also use it for personal shit too. 2016-08-15T23:00:57 < englishman> What's the point of live 30k+ data points? That's quite a bit for a brain to process 2016-08-15T23:01:04 < englishman> Just to make it medgrade and pretty? 2016-08-15T23:01:22 < upgrdman> its just an internal tool 2016-08-15T23:01:34 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-15T23:01:41 < upgrdman> but its nice to have like a 10ch oscilloscope-type display 2016-08-15T23:01:58 < upgrdman> and a "fat trace" means a lot, even if the eye doesnt see each data point 2016-08-15T23:03:03 < englishman> Histogram? 2016-08-15T23:03:17 < upgrdman> that's part of it 2016-08-15T23:03:34 < upgrdman> currently i support: time domain, frequency domain, histogram, and some statistics 2016-08-15T23:03:56 < upgrdman> and i can do all of them on the same or different data, all live 2016-08-15T23:06:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T23:06:46 < upgrdman> tectu, do you game? 2016-08-15T23:07:15 < Steffanx> Tried to invite him 3 times, but he wouldn't join. The **** 2016-08-15T23:07:15 < Tectu> upgrdman, yes 2016-08-15T23:07:26 < upgrdman> whatre you fav games? 2016-08-15T23:07:30 < Tectu> I was afk driving way to fast in a fancy car through the alps, sorry 2016-08-15T23:07:37 < Steffanx> no you're not. 2016-08-15T23:07:39 < upgrdman> james bond style? 2016-08-15T23:07:45 < upgrdman> shaken not stirred 2016-08-15T23:07:58 < Steffanx> james bond does heineken nowadays. 2016-08-15T23:08:09 < upgrdman> lol rly? 2016-08-15T23:08:16 < Tectu> upgrdman, Insurgency, Doom, Quake, Unreal Tournament, stuff like that 2016-08-15T23:08:23 < upgrdman> nice 2016-08-15T23:08:28 < Steffanx> Better get insurgency. 2016-08-15T23:08:32 < upgrdman> i got it 2016-08-15T23:08:39 < upgrdman> it was my first game on steam 2016-08-15T23:08:50 < Steffanx> and join r2com, mr Tectu and me in the ultimate fight with the russians. 2016-08-15T23:08:57 < upgrdman> played the training level for a bit, then got tired. need to fire it up again 2016-08-15T23:08:58 < Tectu> yeah 2016-08-15T23:08:58 < englishman> with or against 2016-08-15T23:09:05 < Steffanx> both. 2016-08-15T23:09:09 < Tectu> na tochku 2016-08-15T23:09:18 < Steffanx> "Cheesta"! 2016-08-15T23:09:21 < englishman> [[S7M_Th!rTY_Tw0_kL4N]] 2016-08-15T23:09:33 < Steffanx> Secret codes? 2016-08-15T23:10:28 < englishman> squint a little 2016-08-15T23:11:15 < Steffanx> oh, now it makes sense. 2016-08-15T23:11:52 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-15T23:12:13 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-15T23:12:37 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T23:12:46 < Tectu> I'm too bias'd by regex, I don't see it. 2016-08-15T23:14:10 < Tectu> nvm 2016-08-15T23:15:14 < Tectu> fresh of the CCD: http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/7505d64a54e0/ee7957dd47c5.jpg 2016-08-15T23:15:49 < Steffanx> swissers -_- 2016-08-15T23:16:14 < Steffanx> When you remove the mountains and say this is in the US i would believe you. 2016-08-15T23:16:21 < Tectu> I am 100% sure that was one of the 10000000 dutch tourists 2016-08-15T23:16:55 < Steffanx> We only have 17M peoples in dutchland 2016-08-15T23:17:34 < Tectu> and it feels like about 15M are in swissland during summer 2016-08-15T23:17:51 < Steffanx> i thought you didnt ski. 2016-08-15T23:18:22 < Tectu> I love to ski 2016-08-15T23:18:25 < Tectu> but I didn't this year 2016-08-15T23:18:28 < Tectu> or last 2016-08-15T23:18:29 < Tectu> or whatever 2016-08-15T23:18:31 < Tectu> last winter 2016-08-15T23:18:32 < Steffanx> or ever. 2016-08-15T23:18:35 < Tectu> or summer for crt 2016-08-15T23:18:40 < Tectu> I did a lot of skiing 2016-08-15T23:18:51 < Steffanx> too cold. 2016-08-15T23:19:11 < Tectu> I like it cold 2016-08-15T23:19:13 < Tectu> and white 2016-08-15T23:27:31 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@2002:55d4:fab:0:c5f1:f2ec:6666:163e] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T23:31:11 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d4164d.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-15T23:31:25 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@62.119.166.1] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-15T23:32:37 < kakimir> Sync: you around? 2016-08-15T23:35:15 < ReadError> https://www.reddit.com/r/ohlympics 2016-08-15T23:35:39 < Steffanx> Read topic kakimir. Don't ask to ask. 2016-08-15T23:36:05 < Tectu> he didn't 2016-08-15T23:36:40 < kakimir> I didn't but actually I do 2016-08-15T23:39:13 < Tectu> time to read a book 2016-08-15T23:39:15 < Tectu> cu folks o/ 2016-08-15T23:39:17 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-15T23:39:29 < kakimir> I do not remember my question 2016-08-15T23:40:11 < kakimir> \o cu 2016-08-15T23:41:22 < kakimir> my composites price comparison .doc will be 15-20pages long after I'm done 2016-08-15T23:42:57 < kakimir> I will save over 100eur just in essentials 2016-08-15T23:43:09 < kakimir> and more per amount of materials 2016-08-15T23:44:55 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-15T23:46:10 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-15T23:46:14 < Tectu> fuck books. 2016-08-15T23:47:52 < kakimir> saw that comming 2016-08-15T23:48:04 < kakimir> bible? 2016-08-15T23:48:10 < Tectu> no 2016-08-15T23:48:14 < Tectu> Mastering Regular Expressions 2016-08-15T23:49:18 < BrainDamage> you have a problem, you decide to use regular expressions, now you have 2 problems 2016-08-15T23:50:10 < Tectu> https://xkcd.com/208/ 2016-08-15T23:50:21 < kakimir> what is regular expressions 2016-08-15T23:50:50 < BrainDamage> finite state machines and turin machines applied to pattern matching 2016-08-15T23:51:21 < Tectu> https://xkcd.com/1313/ 2016-08-15T23:51:40 < kakimir> BrainDamage: please be more specific 2016-08-15T23:51:51 < BrainDamage> it really doesn't get more specific 2016-08-15T23:52:12 < Tectu> kakimir, do you seriously don't know regex or... ? 2016-08-15T23:52:27 < Tectu> kakimir, it's a "language" or "syntax" for text pattern matching 2016-08-15T23:52:35 < Tectu> http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/r/regular-expression.gif 2016-08-15T23:52:59 < Tectu> obviously it can do 100 other things 2016-08-15T23:53:08 < Tectu> also lol @ BrainDamage 2016-08-15T23:53:14 < Tectu> kakimir, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_expression 2016-08-15T23:53:33 < BrainDamage> they are also generally unreadable 10 min after you wrote them 2016-08-15T23:53:39 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-15T23:53:59 < kakimir> I try to understand what "regular expression" means 2016-08-15T23:54:04 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-15T23:54:08 < kakimir> I know it's pattern matching 2016-08-15T23:54:08 < Tectu> well, regex are worse on their own, and then you start to put them into a (C++) source code: "\"(?:\\\\\"|[^\"])*\"" 2016-08-15T23:54:17 < kakimir> and "regex" 2016-08-15T23:54:23 < kakimir> wait.. 2016-08-15T23:54:35 < kakimir> regex = reg.ex. 2016-08-15T23:54:45 < Tectu> regex is the short form / abbrevation of Regular Expression (REGularEXpression) 2016-08-15T23:54:47 < kakimir> o.o 2016-08-15T23:54:54 < scummos> :D that's a good thing to figure out already 2016-08-15T23:55:06 < Tectu> still not sure whether you're trolling, Mr. kakimir 2016-08-15T23:55:11 < Tectu> hi scum o/ 2016-08-15T23:55:14 < scummos> \o 2016-08-15T23:55:18 < Tectu> scummos, sorry, tab fail :p 2016-08-15T23:55:30 < kakimir> I thought it was just cool word to confuse lamers with 2016-08-15T23:56:00 < BrainDamage> regexmatch("tectu has an ass gaped by a horse", "as" ) would match the as in has, and the as in ass 2016-08-15T23:56:35 < Tectu> Laurenceb is the horse guy, not me 2016-08-15T23:56:46 < BrainDamage> don't summon him 2016-08-15T23:57:10 < kakimir> best advice I have heard on this channel 2016-08-15T23:57:11 < Tectu> It's 21:57 at his place. I'm sure he has to be in bed by now. 2016-08-15T23:57:15 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-15T23:57:42 < Tectu> BrainDamage, how good is your regex? 2016-08-15T23:58:36 < BrainDamage> i can write them with a reference in front, then i pretend they don't exist, if there's a problem, i delete the whole thing and rebuild from scratch, it's generally easier than analyzing it :p 2016-08-15T23:58:50 < BrainDamage> also, which flavour? 2016-08-15T23:59:23 < Tectu> Perl 2016-08-15T23:59:29 < BrainDamage> try to avoid it 2016-08-15T23:59:35 < jadew> why? 2016-08-15T23:59:43 < Tectu> how do I make a capturing group that matches/captures everyting until \n ? 2016-08-15T23:59:52 < BrainDamage> backreferences and other things makes the problem untraslateable to FSM 2016-08-15T23:59:55 < Tectu> (with tons of already existing custom shit in front) 2016-08-15T23:59:59 < jadew> ([^\n]+) --- Day changed Tue Aug 16 2016 2016-08-16T00:00:02 < BrainDamage> as result the performance of matching will be shit 2016-08-16T00:00:07 < Tectu> jadew <3 2016-08-16T00:00:13 < jadew> np 2016-08-16T00:00:15 < Tectu> jadew lol, now that you show it it's actually so fucking obvious 2016-08-16T00:00:23 < Tectu> but I am just getting into regex so I don't feel too ashamed. 2016-08-16T00:00:26 < karlp> you can't talk about regexs and paste xkcd and then skip this gem: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454 2016-08-16T00:01:33 < Tectu> yay, this actually works: (\.\.)?/([^:^\n]+):(\d+):(\d+):\s(\w+\s*\w*):([^\n]+) 2016-08-16T00:01:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T00:01:48 < BrainDamage> see, that's what i mean with unreadable 2016-08-16T00:02:01 < jadew> this looks wrong: [^:^\n] 2016-08-16T00:02:08 < jadew> are you sure you don't mean [^:\n] 2016-08-16T00:02:13 < jadew> I can read it just fine 2016-08-16T00:03:04 < jadew> /x helps tho 2016-08-16T00:03:45 < Tectu> but it looks like a smiley [^:^] 2016-08-16T00:03:48 < Tectu> so I thought it would be nice 2016-08-16T00:04:13 < jadew> that's a weird smiley 2016-08-16T00:04:19 < kakimir> Sync: http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/#!/vacuum-equipment-and-supplies/vacuum-bagging-consumables/composites-shrink-tape.html how is this tape used? 2016-08-16T00:04:41 < jadew> this is my fav. smiley ( . Y . ) 2016-08-16T00:04:49 < Tectu> stop being childish 2016-08-16T00:04:53 < BrainDamage> that's literally my wifi SSID 2016-08-16T00:04:56 < Tectu> jadew, yes, it looks like I put a ^ too much there 2016-08-16T00:05:00 < jadew> haha BrainDamage 2016-08-16T00:05:04 < Tectu> BrainDamage, LOL 2016-08-16T00:08:26 < Tectu> the only thing that makes regex weird are the flavors 2016-08-16T00:08:42 < Tectu> and implementation dependent features like whether . matches everything or not 2016-08-16T00:10:22 < BrainDamage> it's not so weird if you consider that the same applies for progrmming languages 2016-08-16T00:10:35 < BrainDamage> in the end, the compiler defines the language 2016-08-16T00:11:42 < jadew> PCRE is the most prevalent one 2016-08-16T00:13:01 < englishman> karlp: ha classic 2016-08-16T00:13:21 < karlp> jadew: depends who you'ðre talking to... 2016-08-16T00:13:35 < karlp> there's also js regexps, and vim regexps as being fairly common out there.... 2016-08-16T00:13:46 < jadew> js is very similar to PCRE 2016-08-16T00:13:54 < karlp> yeah, except where it's not. 2016-08-16T00:13:55 < jadew> don't know about vim 2016-08-16T00:14:04 < jadew> yeah, but those are more like missing features than differences 2016-08-16T00:14:12 < karlp> if your'e going to talk about flavours of regexp and then say "yeah, but theyðre the same"... 2016-08-16T00:15:18 < jadew> karlp, well, they are pretty much the same when you think about stuff like [[:digit:]] 2016-08-16T00:15:47 < jadew> JS regex is mostly a watered down version of PCRE, otherwise everything is about the same 2016-08-16T00:16:41 < jadew> there are flavors where nothing is the same 2016-08-16T00:17:24 < jadew> not nothing, but a lot of stuff are different 2016-08-16T00:19:16 < Tectu> how come there are so many VERY DIFFERENT variations? 2016-08-16T00:19:36 < Tectu> they all have the same goal, no? 2016-08-16T00:19:40 < jadew> Tectu, well, the ones based off of PCRE just didn't implement it all and the other ones, don't know... 2016-08-16T00:19:48 < Tectu> it's not like with programming languages where you use different kinds for different tasks 2016-08-16T00:20:41 < jadew> for example in boost, you can turn off features from PCRE because they are expensive 2016-08-16T00:20:49 < Steffanx> Y u no just steal the stuff you need instead of regexing yourself mr tectu? 2016-08-16T00:20:51 < Tectu> ah, okay 2016-08-16T00:20:57 < Tectu> doesn't C++11 bring native regex now? 2016-08-16T00:21:08 < jadew> it does, it's based on boost regex 2016-08-16T00:21:16 < Tectu> Steffanx, because then I don't know the shit when I want to search stuff in text files next time 2016-08-16T00:21:24 < jadew> with most of the features turned on by default, but it's also missing some stuff 2016-08-16T00:21:34 < jadew> currently you're better off using boost::regex 2016-08-16T00:22:25 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npmrcobokjfnaxgp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T00:22:30 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-16T00:22:37 < Tectu> ok 2016-08-16T00:23:53 < Steffannn> Better go lexing the code and highlight based on that :P 2016-08-16T00:24:06 < jadew> this is for highlighting? 2016-08-16T00:24:42 < Tectu> jadew, I am currently using regex for code highlighting but the thing I asked about wasn't for that 2016-08-16T00:25:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-236-88-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-16T00:26:03 < Steffannn> When will you learn to php? 2016-08-16T00:26:10 < Steffannn> Thats kinda the next step 2016-08-16T00:26:24 < Steffannn> Then jquery and you are web pro 2016-08-16T00:26:58 < jadew> yeah, you can join the other indians fishing for projects 2016-08-16T00:27:21 < Steffannn> And use jadews framework? 2016-08-16T00:27:32 < jadew> not sure I'm gonna release it anymore, had a change of heart 2016-08-16T00:27:37 < Steffannn> Haha 2016-08-16T00:28:11 < Steffannn> After ##stm32 being very positive about it etc.? 2016-08-16T00:28:42 < jadew> I was documenting it and thought to myself "this stuff is really good, am I really sure I want to give it out for free and possibly give insight and tools, into my future products, that my competition could use?" 2016-08-16T00:29:30 < jadew> I'm just not sure it's worth it 2016-08-16T00:29:45 < jadew> what are the odds that it will bring me fame and fortune? close to nil 2016-08-16T00:30:13 < jadew> what are the odds that it will hint the competition on how I did some things in future products? pretty high 2016-08-16T00:30:19 < jadew> especially since it's doing some really neat stuff 2016-08-16T00:31:55 < jadew> and all this to release it to a community that thinks that if they don't have the right to fork it, it's not opensource and they start to bitch about how I shouldn't say it's opensource 2016-08-16T00:32:51 < jadew> so yeah... I have mixed feelings about it 2016-08-16T00:33:53 < jadew> the only thing I want to achieve through it is self promotion, but I'm not sure it's going to work and if it doesn't, then I lose a little advantage 2016-08-16T00:36:08 < jadew> it's been bothering me for more than a week now 2016-08-16T00:36:09 < Steffannn> Hmm ok :P 2016-08-16T00:37:38 < Tectu> what are we talking about? 2016-08-16T00:37:42 < BrainDamage> what does the lib do? 2016-08-16T00:37:52 < jadew> a little MVC framework I wrote for PHP 2016-08-16T00:38:03 < Tectu> also, if ##stm32 gives "very positive" feedback about something, it basically means that you found the cure for cancer, HIV and asbergers. 2016-08-16T00:38:10 < Tectu> so better pursue whatever it is 2016-08-16T00:38:19 < jadew> it wasn't particularly positive hehe 2016-08-16T00:38:32 < jadew> it was basically "lol, PHP." 2016-08-16T00:38:32 < Steffannn> Irony is not invented by Tectu 2016-08-16T00:38:37 < BrainDamage> if they didn't tell you to outright kill yourself, theen it's positive 2016-08-16T00:39:00 < jadew> but I know what I have anyway, that's not the problem 2016-08-16T00:39:08 < Steffannn> Or sarcasm whatever you should call it 2016-08-16T00:39:40 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-16T00:39:46 < Tectu> Steffannn, oh, I didn't know you were being sarcastic, sorry. 2016-08-16T00:40:23 < Steffannn> I thought you knew me better then this 2016-08-16T00:42:21 < Tectu> I am very sorry that I disappointed you, Mr. Steffan. I promise that I commit all available resources I have to ensure that this will not happen again. 2016-08-16T00:44:34 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T00:45:55 < ReadError> go repent and commit 100 lines and remote 100 lines from TempleOS 2016-08-16T00:46:25 < ReadError> remove* 2016-08-16T00:46:39 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-16T00:48:17 < carabia> ReadError: you should really read the backstory of the guy, before you bash him sheepishly. And when it comes to software development, he's actually quite good. I doubt you'll ever be anywhere near as good as he is. 2016-08-16T00:48:53 < ReadError> I dont jive with bible bangers 2016-08-16T00:48:58 < ReadError> or racist 2016-08-16T00:49:09 < Tectu> Hello carabia. Whoever you are, welcome to ##stm32! 2016-08-16T00:49:24 < carabia> I've been here before. Steffannn knows that. 2016-08-16T00:49:40 < carabia> ReadError: Well, being ignorant is the new black. 2016-08-16T00:49:42 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T00:49:51 < jadew> what's this about? 2016-08-16T00:50:04 < ReadError> carabia enlighten me 2016-08-16T00:50:31 < ReadError> http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Home/Web/TAD/DailyBlog.html and explain this 2016-08-16T00:50:39 < Tectu> carabia I don't mind that. I just never "saw" you so I thought I give you all my lovely welcomings. 2016-08-16T00:50:44 < jadew> ah, hehe, about templeos 2016-08-16T00:50:50 < carabia> It's not my duty to enlighten you in any way, shape or form. You have clearly chosen to be ignorant, so be it. Just don't expect to be justified any moral high ground. 2016-08-16T00:51:30 < ReadError> ok well read that page and tell me why I should have any ounce of respect for a pedo/racist 2016-08-16T00:51:44 < ReadError> and I will gladly entertain your ideas 2016-08-16T00:52:10 < ReadError> actually this convo should probably stop cuz bans 2016-08-16T00:52:21 < Tectu> carabia, also I am not being sarcastic with that "welcome" :p 2016-08-16T00:52:47 < jadew> I think we already established that you don't get sarcasm :P 2016-08-16T00:52:54 < jadew> you're safe. 2016-08-16T00:53:28 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@2002:55d4:fab:0:c5f1:f2ec:6666:163e] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T00:53:34 < Steffannn> Since when he pedo too ReadError ? 2016-08-16T00:53:44 < ReadError> Steffannn read that first paragraph 2016-08-16T00:53:46 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@2002:55d4:fab:0:c5f1:f2ec:6666:163e] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T00:53:46 < carabia> ReadError: As said, if you want to entertain your liberal fantasies, read his story. There's even a (mostly unbiased) story published on some online-mag. Wouldn't be too hard to google it. 2016-08-16T00:54:11 < ReadError> idk, it sounds like you didnt read it carabia 2016-08-16T00:54:26 < ReadError> because if you did, I find it difficult how you could be supportive 2016-08-16T00:54:40 < jadew> carabia, if we can't make fun of crazy... all it's lost. 2016-08-16T00:54:43 < carabia> ReadError: I have. I have watched him many times. I also understand that he's not a fully functional individual. 2016-08-16T00:54:56 < carabia> jadew: Yeah, because making fun of anything else is forbidden. 2016-08-16T00:55:17 < Tectu> jadew, thanks :) 2016-08-16T00:55:32 < jadew> carabia, that level of crazy is just spectacular 2016-08-16T00:55:42 < ReadError> its borderline dangerous 2016-08-16T00:55:51 < jadew> it's bound to be brought up from time to time 2016-08-16T00:55:57 < Tectu> somebody capable of writing an OS as extensive as templeOS seems to be quite a functional individual to me 2016-08-16T00:56:10 < ReadError> Tectu well you have 'autist' 2016-08-16T00:56:20 < ReadError> like super pro at one thing but shit at everything 2016-08-16T00:56:23 < Steffannn> Better dont read his blog then tectu 2016-08-16T00:56:52 < ReadError> yea that blog is disgusting 2016-08-16T00:57:09 < carabia> He's not a pedophile. His racism is questionable also. Some of his statements can be backed up by facts. It is true, he throws "nigger" around casually. And that's where you're stuck at. Get over it. 2016-08-16T00:57:16 < Steffannn> Sometimes i get the idea here that autism is .. a totally bad thing. 2016-08-16T00:57:24 < carabia> He has never directly implied a supremacy of any race. 2016-08-16T00:57:35 < Tectu> Steffannn, uhm. that sounds like I should 2016-08-16T00:57:40 < jadew> carabia, I take it he's using the old meaning for nigger? happy? 2016-08-16T00:57:42 < jadew> oh wait... 2016-08-16T00:57:45 < jadew> that's a different word 2016-08-16T00:58:15 < carabia> jadew: if we want to get to the root of things, the word in itself does not imply a supremacy of any kind 2016-08-16T00:58:47 < jadew> it's a derogatory term 2016-08-16T00:59:00 < carabia> he uses "nigger" for a literal shit ton of different things. 2016-08-16T00:59:08 < ReadError> carabia so what behavior excuses/justifies that first paragaph 2016-08-16T00:59:28 < ReadError> hes talking about 1) a 7 year old girl touching him 2) jerking off to his niece 2016-08-16T00:59:37 < ReadError> i dont think we need to continue ? 2016-08-16T01:00:05 < ReadError> he needs to be put in a hospital 2016-08-16T01:00:08 < jadew> is he really in prison? that wouldn't be excluded 2016-08-16T01:00:25 < ReadError> jadew oh the gov is spying on him 2016-08-16T01:00:29 < carabia> He also writes about a myriad of government agencies spying on him, and actively following him 2016-08-16T01:00:30 < ReadError> up in his HD superblocks 2016-08-16T01:00:36 < jadew> and it would explain why he has so much time on his hands to write that garbage 2016-08-16T01:00:38 < ReadError> because??? 2016-08-16T01:00:47 < carabia> You cannot take anything as-is what he writes. That's the whole fucking point. 2016-08-16T01:00:58 < ReadError> whats this documentary 2016-08-16T01:01:01 < ReadError> you speak of 2016-08-16T01:01:02 < carabia> And yes, he should be hospitalized, that I do agree 2016-08-16T01:01:09 < ReadError> i will watch it 2016-08-16T01:01:17 < Steffannn> Sometimes it's just better to ignore the people that cant act "normally" (whatever that may be) 2016-08-16T01:01:32 < ReadError> Steffannn eh to a point 2016-08-16T01:01:42 < ReadError> but when that behavior can effect others 2016-08-16T01:01:52 < Steffannn> Some people in here should try to do that. 2016-08-16T01:02:07 < jadew> personally I find it funny trolling 2016-08-16T01:02:09 < Tectu> wait, why is the .gov following him? I have never read any of his blogs that seem to upset many people in here. I thought he's just some very skilled, lonely middle-aged american with some preferences for religion 2016-08-16T01:02:11 < jadew> it's contained 2016-08-16T01:02:19 < ReadError> Tectu I cant make sense of it 2016-08-16T01:02:29 < jadew> and it's such a crazy/stupid idea that it's funny 2016-08-16T01:02:33 < jadew> so.. harmless fun 2016-08-16T01:02:35 < carabia> He's a sick individual, but you cannot expect to believe in anything what he says or writes. That's the whole point. He should seek help, because even though he's sick, he's a brilliant mind when it comes to writing low-level stuff. 2016-08-16T01:02:35 < ReadError> schizophrenia 2016-08-16T01:02:39 < Steffannn> Sure. But we here in ##stm32 wont be affected by that guy in any way. 2016-08-16T01:02:50 < carabia> he's paranoid schizophernic... 2016-08-16T01:02:54 < carabia> phrenic, even 2016-08-16T01:03:03 < Tectu> is everybody here actively reading templeOSblog but me??? 2016-08-16T01:03:14 < Tectu> carabia, may I ask why you care so much? 2016-08-16T01:03:16 < ReadError> carabia I wanna see the movie 2016-08-16T01:03:18 < ReadError> whats it called 2016-08-16T01:03:46 < jadew> mask 2016-08-16T01:03:47 < Steffannn> Not really. Just read one paragraph because i was told to do so by god readerror 2016-08-16T01:04:00 < carabia> Tectu: I don't care about him so much, he is sick and should seek help. I am merely disgusted by sheepish and juvenile behaviour by individuals such as ReadError. 2016-08-16T01:04:12 < ReadError> Steffannn eh, I like to take an objective view on things 2016-08-16T01:04:15 < ReadError> but i only have 1 side 2016-08-16T01:04:27 < Steffannn> :P 2016-08-16T01:04:29 < Tectu> carabia, just a sec. I have to ask my dictionary what juvenile means. 2016-08-16T01:04:29 < karlp> I have two, inside and outside! 2016-08-16T01:04:38 < Tectu> (in my language) 2016-08-16T01:04:43 < Steffannn> Blue is your house karlp? 2016-08-16T01:04:46 < ReadError> carabia and yea, I am a juvenile, im 13 2016-08-16T01:04:50 < karlp> Blue? 2016-08-16T01:05:00 < karlp> you looking at my website again or something? 2016-08-16T01:05:10 < Tectu> carabia, got it. 2016-08-16T01:05:15 < Steffannn> I just get eiffel 95 in my head when you say inside and outside. 2016-08-16T01:05:27 < carabia> ReadError: your view on this is anything but objective. All I'm trying to say here, is you should respect the guy for his skills, and not dismiss it by his sick random ravings. 2016-08-16T01:05:49 < carabia> no, it's actually eiffel 65, by the way 2016-08-16T01:06:08 < ReadError> carabia actually what I said earlier was, they should just give him gov grants and keep him locked away working on his OS 2016-08-16T01:06:32 < Steffannn> Nah. Grants? No way. 2016-08-16T01:06:37 < carabia> That's what he's basically doing. He has no intentions of leaving the house. 2016-08-16T01:06:48 < ReadError> Steffannn 60k a year isnt much 2016-08-16T01:06:49 < Tectu> why are you guys talking about prison and locking him away? is he harming anybody? or dangerous? 2016-08-16T01:06:52 < ReadError> compared to housing an inmate 2016-08-16T01:06:53 < Steffannn> Those restriction by god are just stupid readerror 2016-08-16T01:06:58 < carabia> But ReadError no, your sheepish and juvenile attitude just pisses me off. 2016-08-16T01:07:08 < ReadError> carabia great, welcome to irc 2016-08-16T01:07:19 < Steffannn> Tectu read his blog. 2016-08-16T01:07:28 < ReadError> opinions are like assholes are yours is shitty 2016-08-16T01:07:34 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-16T01:07:36 < jadew> let's all look out the window and chill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njCDZWTI-xg 2016-08-16T01:07:40 < Steffannn> All about violence and hurting people. 2016-08-16T01:07:44 < Tectu> wtf 2016-08-16T01:07:47 < Tectu> so non-tech stuff? 2016-08-16T01:07:52 -!- mringwal_ [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T01:07:55 < carabia> Well, another one on my ignore-list. 2016-08-16T01:07:57 < Steffannn> Its dark outside jadew 2016-08-16T01:08:07 < Tectu> carabia, I hope you're not talking about me. I am just trying to understand. 2016-08-16T01:08:11 * ReadError carves another notch in the keyboard 2016-08-16T01:08:32 -!- mringwal_ [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-16T01:08:33 < Steffannn> Dont ruine your imb kb 2016-08-16T01:08:34 < carabia> No, ReadError, he can act like a pesky child for all I care. He can do it without my attention and I'm sure he will. 2016-08-16T01:08:48 < Steffannn> Ibm 2016-08-16T01:09:11 < ReadError> Steffannn nah, 10keyless 2016-08-16T01:09:11 < karlp> Steffannn: ahh, I own a blue house that's all :) 2016-08-16T01:09:18 < ReadError> i numpad left handed 2016-08-16T01:09:26 < Tectu> I will have to read that blog tomorrow. I am somewhat surprised though. I thought that he's just a very religious/christian "I speak with god" person. Violence and hurting people didn't meet my expectations. 2016-08-16T01:09:27 < karlp> also, you guys are all too pasty, I got mixed up who pasted which music earlier, 2016-08-16T01:09:40 < karlp> so you just get a short review, "some of that was good, some was kinda boring, but thanks anyway!" 2016-08-16T01:09:57 < Steffannn> What was good? 2016-08-16T01:09:59 < Tectu> karlp, what kind of music do you listen to? 2016-08-16T01:10:08 < karlp> meh, closed all the tabs, 2016-08-16T01:10:19 * karlp listens to a lot of stuff, 2016-08-16T01:10:20 < Tectu> ctrl+shift+t 2016-08-16T01:10:25 < Steffannn> Two steps from hell was best 2016-08-16T01:10:25 < ReadError> https://soundcloud.com/lenkemz/lenkemz-whooly-willy-ep-02-soup 2016-08-16T01:10:41 < Tectu> "whooly willy" sounds like... 2016-08-16T01:10:56 < karlp> two steps from hell had potential, but was too long 2016-08-16T01:11:04 < karlp> here's some ska though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXf43nbxIs 2016-08-16T01:11:27 < jadew> I don't think anyone posted that 2016-08-16T01:11:29 < Steffannn> Sure it was long. They just added like 20 songs in ons video 2016-08-16T01:11:31 < Tectu> two steps from hell is awesome IMHO 2016-08-16T01:11:45 < Tectu> karlp, are you in for some more tasking? I'd have lots of stuff to recommend 2016-08-16T01:11:45 < Steffannn> One* 2016-08-16T01:12:00 < karlp> Tectu: only if you can queue them up fo rme, busy merging... 2016-08-16T01:12:07 < Steffannn> Dont recommend heavy metal tectu 2016-08-16T01:12:39 < Tectu> I don't heavy metal 2016-08-16T01:12:51 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco4z98nIQY 2016-08-16T01:12:54 < Tectu> karlp, probably tomorrow then, because I should get this regex stuff done 2016-08-16T01:12:57 < Steffannn> Its getting pretty close to that 2016-08-16T01:13:09 < carabia> Tectu: I don't think he implies hurting people directly. 2016-08-16T01:13:38 < karlp> how abotu this then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKul3nXLdig 2016-08-16T01:13:39 < Steffannn> Running a nigger over by a car. Yes great.. 2016-08-16T01:13:55 < carabia> ...Then again I could be wrong. 2016-08-16T01:14:25 < Steffannn> Carabia werent you finnish? 2016-08-16T01:14:40 < carabia> I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be on all kinds of watchlists. But intent and allegations are different from actual execution. 2016-08-16T01:14:57 < carabia> Steffannn: how so? 2016-08-16T01:15:10 < Tectu> I /think/ he was being sarcastic, carabia 2016-08-16T01:15:16 < Tectu> but then again I could be wrong 2016-08-16T01:15:19 < Tectu> I don't sarcasm well 2016-08-16T01:15:20 < Steffannn> Curiousity 2016-08-16T01:15:29 < Tectu> oh, I failed. 2016-08-16T01:15:30 < Tectu> nvm 2016-08-16T01:15:40 < carabia> I hope you're not having any race-related prejudices in play here... 2016-08-16T01:15:55 < Steffannn> Im trying to get my tabs on you updated. As you claimed i remember you. 2016-08-16T01:15:56 < carabia> race, or general origin. That's bad. 2016-08-16T01:16:07 < Tectu> why are you so worried about people having racist thoughts, carabia? 2016-08-16T01:16:30 < jadew> carabia, Steffannn is known for racial profiling other users too 2016-08-16T01:16:43 < carabia> Tectu: no get your stuff straight. I'm not. I /think/ I was being sarcastic there 2016-08-16T01:16:48 < Steffannn> -racial 2016-08-16T01:16:49 < carabia> But then again, I could be wrong again. 2016-08-16T01:17:20 < Steffannn> So was that a yes or a no carabia? :) 2016-08-16T01:17:40 < jadew> Tectu had a good question tho, why do you care? 2016-08-16T01:17:53 < jadew> btw, I was kidding about Steffannn 2016-08-16T01:18:04 < Tectu> carabia, my comment about the sarcasm was because I didn't see Steffannn's 2nd post. My comment was on his "running a nigger over by a car. Yes great..." and then you following up with "steffannn: How so?". I missed the other question of steffannn in between that 2016-08-16T01:18:11 < Steffannn> I know fellow finnishers, some weird, some are a genius. I have to place you somewhere too. 2016-08-16T01:19:22 < Steffannn> Tectu is the only swisser i know and he doesnt represent his country very well. 2016-08-16T01:19:27 < carabia> Hmm. What to say 2016-08-16T01:19:36 < Tectu> Steffannn, lol, how come? Only because I don't have any money? 2016-08-16T01:19:44 < jadew> carabia, where are you from? 2016-08-16T01:19:54 < Steffannn> Yes/no. Is enough carabia 2016-08-16T01:20:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-16T01:20:09 < carabia> Life's not that black and white. 2016-08-16T01:20:19 < Steffannn> Otherwise i might think you are ranewen/superbia and that would be sad. 2016-08-16T01:20:37 < Tectu> jadew, you were from some easter/south_eastern european country if I remember correctly, right? 2016-08-16T01:20:48 < jadew> Tectu, correct, Romania 2016-08-16T01:20:54 < carabia> Tectu: thank you for your elaborate debriefing. 2016-08-16T01:20:55 < Tectu> \o/ 2016-08-16T01:20:57 < Steffannn> That would mean the end of oud short relationship carabia. 2016-08-16T01:21:02 < Tectu> carabia, welcome. 2016-08-16T01:21:04 < Steffannn> Our 2016-08-16T01:21:17 < carabia> Yeah, thanks again. 2016-08-16T01:21:19 < Tectu> oh, superbia... haven't heard of that fellow in a while. 2016-08-16T01:21:28 < Tectu> carabia, You are welcome, really. Don't worry about it. 2016-08-16T01:21:46 < carabia> superbia does sound like an awesome guy. 2016-08-16T01:21:58 < Tectu> actually [cara|super]bia 2016-08-16T01:21:59 < Steffannn> Ranewen too? 2016-08-16T01:22:21 < jadew> Tectu, (?:cara|super)bia 2016-08-16T01:22:22 < carabia> No, that sounds like an awful person. 2016-08-16T01:22:28 < Tectu> jadew, thanks! I was wondering. 2016-08-16T01:22:40 < Tectu> jadew, but aren't parenthesis for capturing groups so you can extract stuff? 2016-08-16T01:22:51 < Steffannn> Awh. Yet those two are one and the same. 2016-08-16T01:23:03 < Tectu> Steffannn, as he said, live isn't that black and white. 2016-08-16T01:23:14 < jadew> Tectu, you don't have to, (?:) makes it a non capturing group 2016-08-16T01:23:29 < carabia> Oh, well maybe he's going through some kind of a split-personality disorder kind-of-type-of-thingy. 2016-08-16T01:23:42 < Tectu> jadew, I have to read up on that. Is the colon following the question mark a greadyness modifier? 2016-08-16T01:23:46 < Steffannn> Lies. Finnishers are very white 2016-08-16T01:24:05 < jadew> Tectu, no, it's part of the expression that makes it a non capturing group 2016-08-16T01:24:11 < jadew> it may have other meanings otherwise 2016-08-16T01:24:20 < Tectu> jadew, oh 2016-08-16T01:24:31 < Tectu> jadew, what is the difference between a capturing and a non-capturing group? -_- 2016-08-16T01:24:34 < jadew> (?1) for example means - the same expression as the one in the first matching group 2016-08-16T01:24:40 < jadew> it's used for recursion usually 2016-08-16T01:25:08 < jadew> well, /a/ will usually generate a result with 1 entry 2016-08-16T01:25:10 < jadew> [0] 2016-08-16T01:25:15 < jadew> which will be the full match 2016-08-16T01:25:19 < carabia> A person named Steffannn could hail from a lot of places... 2016-08-16T01:25:24 < jadew> /(a)/ will generate two 2016-08-16T01:25:31 < Tectu> jadew, sorry for bothering you. I should start reading this book first. I don't even know the basics (as you might know by now) 2016-08-16T01:25:32 < jadew> [0] - the full match, and [1] the first match group 2016-08-16T01:25:39 < Tectu> jadew, interesting! 2016-08-16T01:25:58 < carabia> My money's on central europe however... 2016-08-16T01:26:00 < jadew> if you do (?:a) then it's just [0], because (?:a) doesn't capture 2016-08-16T01:26:12 < Steffannn> Since when tectu does books instead of learning by doing? 2016-08-16T01:26:35 < Steffannn> Make it west carabia. 2016-08-16T01:26:41 < Tectu> since that doesn't seem to be an efficient approach with regex, Steffannn 2016-08-16T01:27:03 < Steffannn> Write a regex to validate your regexez 2016-08-16T01:27:07 < jadew> I did 2016-08-16T01:27:10 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-16T01:27:16 < carabia> Steffannn: Or that, geography was never one of my strong suits. 2016-08-16T01:27:18 < Tectu> jadew, that regex thingy Steffannn mentioned or learning by doing? :p 2016-08-16T01:27:25 < jadew> what Steffannn said 2016-08-16T01:27:29 < Tectu> show. 2016-08-16T01:27:31 < jadew> validating a regex with regex :P 2016-08-16T01:27:36 < jadew> give me a sec 2016-08-16T01:27:43 < Steffannn> Better dont 2016-08-16T01:27:44 * Tectu gets his popcorn 2016-08-16T01:27:55 < Steffannn> I have to sleep soon 2016-08-16T01:28:01 < Steffannn> Dont want nightmarez 2016-08-16T01:28:09 < jadew> it's not that ugly 2016-08-16T01:28:36 < Steffannn> But it also does parenthesis matching/counting etc? 2016-08-16T01:28:56 < Tectu> Steffannn, better don't think about the shower thing we talked about yesterday then 2016-08-16T01:29:08 < Steffannn> We didnt 2016-08-16T01:29:15 < Tectu> ah right, I forgot 2016-08-16T01:29:23 < Steffannn> I mean: i dont recall doing so 2016-08-16T01:29:37 < carabia> Steffannn: Europe's one big mess anyway. No-one distinguishes you from another. 2016-08-16T01:29:52 < Tectu> jadew, so can I say that () and (?:) behave exactly the same, just that (?:) doesn't "get an index"? 2016-08-16T01:30:01 < jadew> /^\/(?:\\Q(?:(?!\\E).)*\\E|\[(?:\\.|[^\]])*+\]|\\.|[^/\[])*+\/[gisSmoxXAU]*( .+)?$/ 2016-08-16T01:30:31 < jadew> Tectu, yeah, (?:) is non capturing 2016-08-16T01:31:00 < Tectu> jadew, but what you put inside of it is EXACTLY the same as with () (I mean has the same result, behaves the same) just that you can't extract its match? 2016-08-16T01:31:01 < Steffannn> And yet it is semi unreadable. 2016-08-16T01:31:38 < jadew> Tectu, yes, and expression that refer to back references don't work on it, because it's not a back reference 2016-08-16T01:31:57 < Tectu> jadew, I haven't read about backtracking and that stuff yet so... 2016-08-16T01:32:02 < jadew> for example /<([^>]+)>[^<]*<\/\1>/ 2016-08-16T01:32:17 < jadew> you need a captureing group for that to work 2016-08-16T01:32:48 < Tectu> what the fuck did I just read/see 2016-08-16T01:32:52 < jadew> lol 2016-08-16T01:32:56 < Steffannn> Html crap 2016-08-16T01:33:04 < Tectu> that looks like cheat code instructions for GTA SanAndreas 2016-08-16T01:33:12 < Tectu> to get a jetpack or sumthing 2016-08-16T01:33:19 < Steffannn> Dont you see the html tags? 2016-08-16T01:33:22 < jadew> it matches any tag like sdoifjdsaiof 2016-08-16T01:33:29 < Steffannn> Or xml 2016-08-16T01:33:32 < jadew> or I think it does, I didn't try it 2016-08-16T01:33:33 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-16T01:33:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-16T01:33:40 < Tectu> oh, I thought that those < > would do some shifting, or that backtrack stuff or something 2016-08-16T01:33:47 < Tectu> but as they are inside the [] they probably can't anyway 2016-08-16T01:33:55 < jadew> you can use ?> for atomic grouping 2016-08-16T01:33:59 < Steffannn> Better join ##regex32 2016-08-16T01:34:07 < Tectu> I have no idea what an atomic group is, mate :p 2016-08-16T01:34:09 < carabia> I thought it was the AACS encryption key 2016-08-16T01:34:33 < Tectu> jadew, I really appreciate it a lot that you put all this time and motivation for all these explanations into it. But note that I really don't know anything about regex yet. 2016-08-16T01:34:55 < jadew> Tectu, well, get on it, it's a very useful skill 2016-08-16T01:35:16 < Steffannn> Yes. Better go elite and tell tectu he is a noob 2016-08-16T01:35:36 < Tectu> jadew, that's what my grand father said about slaughtering bunnies and pigs too. 2016-08-16T01:35:43 < jadew> haha 2016-08-16T01:35:57 < Tectu> the result looked pretty much like a regex though :p 2016-08-16T01:36:01 < Tectu> (messy as fuck) 2016-08-16T01:36:20 < carabia> On average I'd say it's a skill more useful than regular expressions 2016-08-16T01:36:30 < jadew> slaughtering bunnies? 2016-08-16T01:36:41 < Steffannn> Only in finland 2016-08-16T01:36:41 < carabia> They don't taste half-bad. 2016-08-16T01:37:00 < carabia> Try again. 2016-08-16T01:37:00 < Steffannn> With some vodka and sauna 2016-08-16T01:37:00 < jadew> but they're so cute 2016-08-16T01:37:38 < BrainDamage> once it's a steak it doesn't look like a fuzzy ball of fur anymore 2016-08-16T01:37:57 < Steffannn> Not all of them. Here they all die due to some virus lately 2016-08-16T01:38:01 < Tectu> when you're doing it right that is, BrainDamage 2016-08-16T01:38:08 < Tectu> Steffannn ?! 2016-08-16T01:38:12 < Tectu> (that wasn't a regex at the end) 2016-08-16T01:38:25 < Tectu> is this zombie bunnies? 2016-08-16T01:38:26 < Steffannn> What was unclear tectu? 2016-08-16T01:38:36 < Tectu> I must have missed that in the news 2016-08-16T01:38:39 < jadew> actually that defines a negative look ahead :P 2016-08-16T01:38:42 < Steffannn> Its getting sick and dying fast 2016-08-16T01:38:56 < Tectu> jadew, is look-ahead the same (but opposite) of a backtrack? 2016-08-16T01:39:28 < jadew> I backtracking has to do with the process of matching 2016-08-16T01:39:40 < jadew> that's the oposit of (?=) 2016-08-16T01:39:49 < jadew> (?!) 2016-08-16T01:40:14 < carabia> Negative lookahead has to do with the process of hitching? 2016-08-16T01:40:14 < zyp> a look ahead means that you're matching something that follows, without actually including that in the match 2016-08-16T01:40:49 < zyp> like «I want to match abc when it precedes xyz» 2016-08-16T01:41:09 < Tectu> oh, that sounds useful 2016-08-16T01:41:13 < Steffannn> Negative lookahead is me seeing a bad future for you carabia 2016-08-16T01:41:38 < carabia> Steffannn: can't be worse than what you have in store over there. 2016-08-16T01:41:58 < Steffannn> Maybe that involves you 2016-08-16T01:41:59 < Tectu> stroopwafles <3 2016-08-16T01:42:12 < Tectu> jadew, zyp thank you very much, guys. 2016-08-16T01:42:17 < carabia> Steffannn: It most certainly does not. 2016-08-16T01:42:19 < jadew> np 2016-08-16T01:42:21 < Steffannn> stroopwafels 2016-08-16T01:42:21 < Tectu> I am currently writing a regex that parses GCC warnings/errors. 2016-08-16T01:42:25 < Tectu> apparently even successfully 2016-08-16T01:42:29 < Tectu> but I guess that is kids play for you 2016-08-16T01:42:52 < Tectu> Steffannn, is that fiber/fibre all over again? 2016-08-16T01:43:01 < Steffannn> What fibre? 2016-08-16T01:43:20 < Tectu> wafles vs. wafels 2016-08-16T01:43:20 < carabia> Tectu: That sounds like overly redundant to me but... to each their own I guess. 2016-08-16T01:43:21 < jadew> Tectu, don't make it sound like it's some crazy skill, regex is quite easy to understand, it just looks weird 2016-08-16T01:43:41 < jadew> don't be afraid of it 2016-08-16T01:43:52 < Tectu> jadew, so far it seems to involve a lot of magic and experience (along the common level of knowledge required). 2016-08-16T01:43:58 < Tectu> jadew, but it definitely seems to be a skill worth having. 2016-08-16T01:44:08 < Tectu> jadew, I am not afraid of it, that's why I am using it now :) 2016-08-16T01:44:17 < Steffannn> And yet no one can write s proper regex to validate email addresses jadew :P 2016-08-16T01:44:21 < zyp> remember that regex isn't a parser 2016-08-16T01:44:25 < jadew> Steffannn, hehe 2016-08-16T01:44:29 < Tectu> zyp, your point being? 2016-08-16T01:44:48 < zyp> my point being that regex isn't always the right tool for the job 2016-08-16T01:45:08 < Tectu> I didn't plan to use it for soldering this capacitor, if that is what you're afraid of 2016-08-16T01:45:14 < carabia> Can you like write some node.js and BIG DATA, mixed in with some Rust and python, perhaps some ruby on rails too, and parse it with regex? And throw in a few more hip/buzzwords? 2016-08-16T01:45:15 < zyp> if you're doing any sort of complex parsing, it's usually the wrong one 2016-08-16T01:45:28 < Tectu> zyp, what are the "limits" and "alternatives"? 2016-08-16T01:45:32 < Steffannn> Bingo! Carabia 2016-08-16T01:45:33 < carabia> Can you regex Web 4.0? 2016-08-16T01:46:18 < jadew> Tectu, it usually gets hairy when you have recursion and complex syntax 2016-08-16T01:46:23 < zyp> Tectu, there's plenty of parser libs to choose from if you're writing a parser 2016-08-16T01:46:29 < jadew> it's easy to parse () + (() * (whatever)) 2016-08-16T01:46:29 < carabia> Steffannn: Yes. I do have a bright future. 2016-08-16T01:46:51 < jadew> but more complex syntax, like for a language is usually hard to parse/validate in one go 2016-08-16T01:47:03 < Tectu> zyp, I just want to extract the file path and line numbers from the GCC output to be able to jump to the appropriate location when clicking on the error message. 2016-08-16T01:47:06 < Steffannn> Good. Does it involve some obscure mcu processor architecture carabia? 2016-08-16T01:47:18 < carabia> I think the end of human kind will be AI. Guess what it's written with? 2016-08-16T01:47:28 < jadew> regex? 2016-08-16T01:47:45 < Tectu> zyp, I assume that regex is a valid tool for that job? 2016-08-16T01:47:48 < Steffannn> Some language we dont know yet and never will. 2016-08-16T01:47:56 < Tectu> templeOS.js 2016-08-16T01:47:57 < jadew> Tectu, it's good for parsing patterns of text 2016-08-16T01:48:08 < carabia> Check out the big brains on jadew! 2016-08-16T01:48:17 < Steffannn> A real ai would write code in a language not understandable by humans 2016-08-16T01:48:41 < Steffannn> Regex gets close to that though. 2016-08-16T01:48:42 < carabia> No. A real AI would write regex. That's final. 2016-08-16T01:48:51 < Tectu> jadew, that's what I understood so far. I am curious, what are people using regex for that they shouldn't use regex for? 2016-08-16T01:49:12 < jadew> Tectu, don't know 2016-08-16T01:49:20 < jadew> I think that when I use it, I should use it :P 2016-08-16T01:49:29 < Tectu> I am just wondering about what zyp said. I'd prefer not to use regex for this task if it's the wrong tool. 2016-08-16T01:49:30 < zyp> Tectu, parsing xml is a common example 2016-08-16T01:49:37 < Tectu> zyp, ah 2016-08-16T01:49:39 < carabia> Regex is a universal constant. 2016-08-16T01:50:05 < Steffannn> Also see people often check if some string contains some string with a regex 2016-08-16T01:50:11 < BrainDamage> regex is bad at branching 2016-08-16T01:50:27 < carabia> Rumor has it, regex shot JFK, did 9/11 and shot a black guy in Baltimore. 2016-08-16T01:50:38 < Tectu> carabia, can you please stop writing so much crap? 2016-08-16T01:50:41 < Steffannn> I love you too carabia. 2016-08-16T01:51:05 < Steffannn> I remember you rage quitting. Can try again? 2016-08-16T01:51:15 < carabia> Tectu: I should be offended. 2016-08-16T01:51:20 < zyp> Tectu, you can look at for instance boost.spirit 2016-08-16T01:51:20 < BrainDamage> you need to be able to enumerate all the permutations in a constant string, it won't handle dynamic branching 2016-08-16T01:51:35 < carabia> Steffannn: No, I'm kind of getting in the groove. Can't stop now. 2016-08-16T01:51:46 < Steffannn> Ok 2016-08-16T01:52:15 < Tectu> zyp, what limitation of regex makes it bad for parsing XML? I am not asking because I doubt what you say, just curious to understand why. 2016-08-16T01:52:15 < jadew> yeah, but even spirit has its limitations 2016-08-16T01:52:33 < carabia> As for you being a borderline bitch about it, begs the question why, since it's pretty much the default state of this channel 2016-08-16T01:52:41 < jadew> for one, if the syntax gets too complex, it take a year to compile 2016-08-16T01:52:46 < BrainDamage> you should go back to karlp's link 2016-08-16T01:53:24 < zyp> Tectu, like BrainDamage said, regex is bad at branching 2016-08-16T01:53:48 < zyp> parsers break down the input in a structural tree 2016-08-16T01:54:10 < carabia> And it was not so much of a quit-by-rage, moreof a dawning upon me how this channel is everything but the topic. But hey, roll with it :) 2016-08-16T01:54:33 < karlp> the topic is included too 2016-08-16T01:54:47 < karlp> if anyone asks about them 2016-08-16T01:54:50 < jadew> call the topic police 2016-08-16T01:55:35 < carabia> No, in freenode the topic is actually implied within the channel name itself. This works on just about every other channel apart from this, and #freenode. 2016-08-16T01:55:52 < jadew> carabia, what's wrong with that? 2016-08-16T01:56:17 < jadew> people with similar interests talking about other stuff they might have in common or enjoy 2016-08-16T01:56:19 < BrainDamage> regex is actually a pretty valid topic for this channel, you're the one spewing the pointless drivel 2016-08-16T01:56:35 < Tectu> why is everybody bitching about this channel lately? It was fine for the past 5 years. If people ask STM32 question people get STM32 answers. 2016-08-16T01:56:41 < carabia> Not necessarily anything wrong, just that the channel name could be more appropriate, then. 2016-08-16T01:56:46 < carabia> BrainDamage: I'd beg to differ. 2016-08-16T01:56:56 < Steffannn> It has never been "fine" no lies tectu :P 2016-08-16T01:56:57 < Tectu> +1 BrainDamage 2016-08-16T01:56:58 < karlp> nobodyðs bitchign except for carabia and they're new here, so fuck them 2016-08-16T01:57:07 < Tectu> Steffannn, it has "worked" ? :P 2016-08-16T01:57:38 < Steffannn> Or not. 2016-08-16T01:57:41 < Tectu> karlp, what about stuff like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eIc2JYJtks 2016-08-16T01:57:42 < carabia> Tectu: Or not. 2016-08-16T01:57:56 < carabia> ##SIGREGEX 2016-08-16T01:58:23 < jadew> carabia, do you have a stm32 question? 2016-08-16T01:58:48 < BrainDamage> karlp: btw, is your encoding set to utf-8? i get weird accented letters in places of apostrophes 2016-08-16T01:58:50 < carabia> No, but even if I did I wouldn't expect answers here. 2016-08-16T01:58:58 < zyp> Tectu, http://cgit.jvnv.net/audist/tree/http_connection_parser.cpp <- here's some shit I wrote once to parse HTTP headers 2016-08-16T01:59:05 < carabia> I'm here to roll with it, like I said :) 2016-08-16T01:59:19 < carabia> Wasn't really bitching, it was merely a truthful statement. 2016-08-16T01:59:31 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-16T01:59:36 < BrainDamage> my guess is ohsix 2016-08-16T01:59:39 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-16T01:59:53 < Steffannn> No. Not o6 2016-08-16T02:00:43 < carabia> So, you know, can someone suggest some dope vape gear? 2016-08-16T02:01:13 < Tectu> Rob235 ^ 2016-08-16T02:01:21 < BrainDamage> ##electronics was pretty keen on drugs the last time i was in it, try there, also chemistry 2016-08-16T02:01:35 < Steffannn> Someone is reading logs. That gives you extra points for being o6 2016-08-16T02:01:46 < Rob235> ? 2016-08-16T02:01:56 < Tectu> Rob235, you were into vaping, or am I mistaken? 2016-08-16T02:02:02 < Rob235> yea I am 2016-08-16T02:02:05 < Rob235> whats up 2016-08-16T02:02:13 < Tectu> well, the arrow points up, my friend. 2016-08-16T02:02:18 < Tectu> just read the line above it 2016-08-16T02:02:26 < Tectu> people seek your expertise 2016-08-16T02:02:51 < Rob235> carabia: what do you currently use? 2016-08-16T02:03:04 < Tectu> Uhm, I get the bad feeling that I shouldn't have done that... 2016-08-16T02:03:08 < carabia> Uhh 2016-08-16T02:03:10 < zyp> Tectu, that parser takes the whole initial part of a HTTP requrest, breaks it down into pieces, breaks the request url into a path list and an optional argument map, then breaks all the headers down into a map structure 2016-08-16T02:03:35 < Tectu> zyp, looking at it now... 2016-08-16T02:03:42 < zyp> and it includes support for % substitutions 2016-08-16T02:03:56 < carabia> Soo, I got like this semi-dope set from Liquid Voyage. 2016-08-16T02:04:38 < jadew> zyp, you made your own HTTP client? 2016-08-16T02:04:40 < Tectu> zyp, why are you not using regex for those "individual jobs"? 2016-08-16T02:04:46 < zyp> jadew, server, not client 2016-08-16T02:04:50 < jadew> ah 2016-08-16T02:05:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T02:05:51 < zyp> Tectu, not very useful 2016-08-16T02:06:13 < carabia> Rob235: I've got a PV with 510, a tank, one APV, and eGo with an atomizer and a cartomizer. 2016-08-16T02:06:39 < Tectu> zyp, may I ask what 'qi' stands for? 2016-08-16T02:06:58 < jadew> namespace qi = boost::spirit::qi; 2016-08-16T02:07:02 < zyp> it's the parser module of boost.spirit 2016-08-16T02:07:03 < carabia> I got me some drip tips and a passthrough also. Rob235? 2016-08-16T02:07:42 < Tectu> zyp, jadew, yeah I got that. I was just wondering whether QI is some common abbrevation in that "world" 2016-08-16T02:07:54 < zyp> no, it's a library name 2016-08-16T02:07:56 < Tectu> abbreviation* 2016-08-16T02:07:57 < Tectu> ok 2016-08-16T02:08:06 < jadew> zyp, if you care about performance, either implementing the parser manually or doing it the classic way with lexer + paser, is faster than spirit 2016-08-16T02:08:11 < Rob235> do you build your own coils? if not then I can't really help you there. I use a joyetech cuboid mod though which has a couple problems but is really good 2016-08-16T02:08:33 < jadew> I implemented the equivalent parser in all 3 ways and spirit yielded the slowest result 2016-08-16T02:09:11 < zyp> yeah, I don't doubt that 2016-08-16T02:09:20 < zyp> nice part about spirit is how little code you need 2016-08-16T02:09:37 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-16T02:10:17 < carabia> Rob235: yeah I got a large variety of coils and I can spin one together if needed. Wide range from a few uH to 1 H. 2016-08-16T02:10:30 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/audist/tree/json.cpp#n11 <- made a json parser too 2016-08-16T02:10:44 < Tectu> zyp, what's audist? 2016-08-16T02:11:09 < zyp> some old project I and a friend worked on that never got anywhere 2016-08-16T02:11:33 < carabia> Mostly ferrite-cores. 2016-08-16T02:12:24 < Rob235> ;) 2016-08-16T02:12:28 < jadew> zyp, that's the parser I was talking about, a JSON parser :) 2016-08-16T02:12:49 < zyp> hehe 2016-08-16T02:12:57 < Tectu> how much easier is json to parse than XML? 2016-08-16T02:13:06 < Tectu> I assume somewhat the same except extra features? 2016-08-16T02:13:16 < jadew> much easier, you don't have attributes 2016-08-16T02:13:21 < zyp> json has a much simpler syntax 2016-08-16T02:13:31 < jadew> also the encoding is simpler 2016-08-16T02:14:22 < jadew> the only slightly tricker thing to handle is the \u encoded characters 2016-08-16T02:14:26 < jadew> but that's about it 2016-08-16T02:16:15 < carabia> Can you parse the Matrix? 2016-08-16T02:16:16 < zyp> in xml, every node can have any mix of children, in json you have strictly defined list and map types and everything else are standalone primitives (non-containers) 2016-08-16T02:18:08 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d42479.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T02:20:47 < Tectu> ah, right. 2016-08-16T02:21:12 < Tectu> is laks still a thing btw. 2016-08-16T02:21:13 < Tectu> ? 2016-08-16T02:21:35 < zyp> sure, last commit to it was yesterday 2016-08-16T02:21:39 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@2002:55d4:fab:0:c5f1:f2ec:6666:163e] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-16T02:21:44 < Tectu> I am always amazed by how easy your code C++ code looks like :) 2016-08-16T02:22:31 < zyp> looks easy, but according to karlp it isn't really that easy :p 2016-08-16T02:22:50 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-16T02:23:05 < Tectu> better show him laurence code 2016-08-16T02:23:48 < zyp> well, I mean, he were trying out something with laks and couldn't get it to work 2016-08-16T02:24:26 < Tectu> there are things that karlp doesn't get to work? 2016-08-16T02:24:42 < Tectu> isn't he like some voodoo wizard magician? 2016-08-16T02:32:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T02:34:05 < Laurenceb__> sup 2016-08-16T02:34:34 < Laurenceb__> my new LSM9DS1 footprint seems to work 2016-08-16T02:36:37 < Laurenceb__> seems so 2016-08-16T02:36:42 < Laurenceb__> massive pita to solder 2016-08-16T02:37:09 < Laurenceb__> not really, the magno can you to 1khz and the gyro is v good too 2016-08-16T02:37:24 < Laurenceb__> its seems close to being the best MEMS atm 2016-08-16T02:37:46 < Laurenceb__> low noise and temperature offset 2016-08-16T02:38:11 < Laurenceb__> I havent seen it, but datasheet has little info 2016-08-16T02:38:43 < Laurenceb__> but I think it uses a quite nice gyro part 2016-08-16T02:39:10 < Laurenceb__> its possible to work out the parts they put in from the registers 2016-08-16T02:39:28 < Laurenceb__> well thats how I worked out the magno thing and it worked 2016-08-16T02:44:20 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-16T02:45:54 < Tectu> o-oh, time to leave. 2016-08-16T02:46:09 < Tectu> bed 2016-08-16T02:46:15 < Tectu> 2am here bro 2016-08-16T02:46:26 < Tectu> thanks :3 2016-08-16T02:49:19 < Laurenceb__> hello mr aussie 2016-08-16T02:50:33 < englishman> nitey nite Tectu 2016-08-16T02:50:42 < englishman> have sweet dreams of fondue and chocolate 2016-08-16T02:50:59 < englishman> tuck your bag of jew teeth under your pillow for good luck 2016-08-16T02:52:09 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T02:52:55 < Tectu> haha 2016-08-16T02:52:56 < Tectu> cu o/ 2016-08-16T02:52:59 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-16T02:53:01 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-16T02:53:24 < Laurenceb__> Abbo hunting is your national sport 2016-08-16T02:55:14 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T02:56:50 < Laurenceb__> yeah, do you still get paid to do it? 2016-08-16T02:57:28 < englishman> no the english bountys have ended 2016-08-16T02:57:34 < englishman> soon after confederation 2016-08-16T02:58:21 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-16T02:58:46 < englishman> are knives legal in englind again 2016-08-16T02:58:58 < englishman> or is it still 100years in the gaol 2016-08-16T03:02:59 < englishman> faroe islands? 2016-08-16T03:03:06 < englishman> that one in the south full of pedophiles? 2016-08-16T03:03:12 < englishman> sealand? 2016-08-16T03:04:08 < englishman> dono 2016-08-16T03:04:16 < englishman> iceland? 2016-08-16T03:04:17 < englishman> oh wait 2016-08-16T03:05:01 < zyp> no, I only do crystal math 2016-08-16T03:05:20 < zyp> idk what we're talking about :D 2016-08-16T03:06:38 < englishman> belarus 2016-08-16T03:06:59 < englishman> something in eastern eu 2016-08-16T03:08:28 < Laurenceb__> on my way meth-in, crystal meth-in 2016-08-16T03:08:50 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfa8W5oMRoY 2016-08-16T03:10:31 < Laurenceb__> englishman: ironically today moar knives were made illegal 2016-08-16T03:10:52 < Laurenceb__> also farnell sent me a ton of paperwork to fill out to buy some scalpel blades 2016-08-16T03:11:09 < Laurenceb__> ironically I can buy explosives with less faff 2016-08-16T03:11:40 < zyp> haha, wtf 2016-08-16T03:11:55 < Laurenceb__> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37080682 2016-08-16T03:12:24 < Laurenceb__> I've imported detonators and stuff from ATK, its was quite easy, just a faff to organised shipping 2016-08-16T03:13:22 < Laurenceb__> some highaltitude n00b sent himself to hospital with arduino codez + explosives 2016-08-16T03:13:43 < Laurenceb__> wind estimator based xplosive release 2016-08-16T03:13:53 < Laurenceb__> wind estimate used gps position changes 2016-08-16T03:14:13 < Laurenceb__> when he turned the gps on it started at 0,0 ... and he has detonator in his hand 2016-08-16T03:14:21 < Laurenceb__> can you see where this is going? 2016-08-16T03:14:53 < Laurenceb__> first near hand removal with arduino 2016-08-16T03:15:35 < upgrdman> ahaha fuck yes! just found out that java's VolatileImage is like the gpu-accelerated equiv of BufferedImage. fucking fast as shit, and cpu AND gpu are both cool. 2016-08-16T03:15:47 < Laurenceb__> > java 2016-08-16T03:16:01 < Laurenceb__> kek 2016-08-16T03:16:13 < upgrdman> Laurenceb__, ya i know. but shit fucking works :) 2016-08-16T03:16:27 < Laurenceb__> most pc stuff works 2016-08-16T03:16:38 < Laurenceb__> its once you start talking to peripherals like bluetooth... 2016-08-16T03:16:40 < upgrdman> well i can make it work :) 2016-08-16T03:17:15 < upgrdman> i know, java is dieing, but fuck, i know it decently well so i can solve problems quick with it 2016-08-16T03:17:47 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-16T03:18:00 < upgrdman> flash is gone, no? who even installs it anymore? 2016-08-16T03:18:15 < upgrdman> i guess the same is true of java on the desktop :/ 2016-08-16T03:19:11 < upgrdman> yay my fan grills arrived. time to install them and put my pc case back together 2016-08-16T03:19:14 < upgrdman> bbl 2016-08-16T03:19:56 < Laurenceb__> I have flash here 2016-08-16T03:20:05 < Laurenceb__> inb4 "yeah for your pronz" 2016-08-16T03:20:22 < Laurenceb__> flash dies horribly all the time on lunix 2016-08-16T03:20:40 < upgrdman> crt, i dont normally use em, but my case has fan filters, and without a grill they rubs on muh fan blades 2016-08-16T03:20:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-16T03:21:08 < Laurenceb__> interesting 2016-08-16T03:21:23 < Laurenceb__> my work pc never dusts up yet my laptop needs cleaning every few months 2016-08-16T03:21:37 < Laurenceb__> yet its way more dusty at work.. confusing 2016-08-16T03:24:24 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-16T03:36:40 < Laurenceb__> king of/b/ 2016-08-16T03:36:58 < Laurenceb__> whats the difference between Elliot Rodger and an Egg? 2016-08-16T03:37:12 < Laurenceb__> an egg gets laid before it cracks 2016-08-16T03:38:03 < Laurenceb__> I've fired a handgun thats it 2016-08-16T03:38:14 < Laurenceb__> when I was like 8 before they were banned in uk lul 2016-08-16T03:38:52 < Laurenceb__> yeah thats the jihad technique 2016-08-16T03:39:02 < Laurenceb__> spray and snackbar 2016-08-16T03:39:42 < Laurenceb__> crt: you woke the NRA 2016-08-16T03:39:58 < Laurenceb__> to be fair my murican relatives are nra nuts 2016-08-16T03:40:34 < Laurenceb__> my half brother has facebook profile of pickup mounted gun and nra stickers 2016-08-16T03:40:46 < Laurenceb__> looks like murican taliban lol 2016-08-16T03:41:02 < Laurenceb__> but he does live in Alabama 2016-08-16T03:41:21 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zjWXlhxYLY 2016-08-16T03:41:34 < dongs> Laurenceb__: < timemob> https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/15/london-police-troll-hunters/ RIP Laurence/b/ 2016-08-16T03:41:49 < dongs> while you were out 2016-08-16T03:42:04 < Laurenceb__> dongs: yeah im in jail 2016-08-16T03:42:15 < Laurenceb__> I have actually be arrested once for trollin 2016-08-16T03:42:24 < Laurenceb__> but they had to let me go :-/ 2016-08-16T03:42:40 < Laurenceb__> cuz they didnt give a shit 2016-08-16T03:43:02 < zyp> Laurenceb__, haha, for what? fake threats? 2016-08-16T03:43:07 < Laurenceb__> nah I was trollin some irl terrorists on hidden networks to waste their time and shit 2016-08-16T03:43:42 < dongs> crt is a terrorist on irc 2016-08-16T03:43:47 < Laurenceb__> police/mi were major pissed with timewasting permanoobs as they were onto same group 2016-08-16T03:44:09 < Laurenceb__> I got hauled in and given rage mode by police 2016-08-16T03:44:59 < Laurenceb__> like they turned up and said I had been uncovered and my life was at risk 2016-08-16T03:45:04 < Laurenceb__> I legged it 2016-08-16T03:45:11 < dongs> http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-gift-for-music-lovers-who-have-it-all-a-personal-utility-pole-1471189463 haha 2016-08-16T03:45:14 < dongs> audiophool japs 2016-08-16T03:45:24 < Laurenceb__> then they managed to get my number and arrange meeting "to protect me" 2016-08-16T03:45:34 < Laurenceb__> got jumped by police officers and arrested 2016-08-16T03:45:44 < Laurenceb__> major lulz in hindsight 2016-08-16T03:45:48 < Laurenceb__> yup pretty much 2016-08-16T03:46:29 < Laurenceb__> in London 2016-08-16T03:46:31 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-16T03:46:36 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-16T03:46:56 < Laurenceb__> ip tracing of some sort 2016-08-16T03:47:23 < Laurenceb__> cuz I was wasting their time 2016-08-16T03:47:40 < Laurenceb__> police dont like perman00b teenagers interfering with ops 2016-08-16T03:47:57 < Laurenceb__> prob confused them for about 5 minutes then caused them to go rage mode 2016-08-16T03:48:10 < Laurenceb__> so they pissed me off to get revenge 2016-08-16T03:48:13 < Laurenceb__> basically 2016-08-16T03:48:50 < dongs> https://goatkcd.com/1718/sfw 2016-08-16T03:48:51 < Laurenceb__> just hung out on some hidden networks trolling 2016-08-16T03:49:14 < Laurenceb__> secret 2016-08-16T03:49:18 < Laurenceb__> I'm not saying any more 2016-08-16T03:49:41 < zyp> oh, cp networks 2016-08-16T03:49:50 < Laurenceb__> anyways when I was like 14 I used to shoplift and hang out with joyriders and shit 2016-08-16T03:50:05 < Laurenceb__> got in trouble with police loads, funtimes 2016-08-16T03:50:28 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should have continued my path and become a dealer or something 2016-08-16T03:52:27 < Laurenceb__> pretty much 2016-08-16T03:52:36 < Laurenceb__> I was literally Devvo 2016-08-16T03:52:56 < Laurenceb__> thats why Devvo is so amusing 2016-08-16T03:53:49 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-08-16T03:54:09 < Laurenceb__> this is going in my copypasta folder 2016-08-16T03:54:57 < Laurenceb__> lulwut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lrUXAn5R7s 2016-08-16T04:03:22 < dongs> meanwhile you drag it back about same amount 2016-08-16T04:03:24 < dongs> by using QT 2016-08-16T04:03:28 < dongs> instead of WINDOWS PRO SOFT 2016-08-16T04:08:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-16T04:11:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T04:16:25 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d43bd6.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T04:18:25 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d42479.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-16T04:18:50 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d40803.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T04:21:28 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d43bd6.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T04:27:16 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/9opHC5V 2016-08-16T04:30:06 < upgrdman> R2COM, typical russian woman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FML84SuQ16c 2016-08-16T04:32:12 < dongs> upgrdman: isnt that your standard chink toilet 2016-08-16T04:32:16 < dongs> doors are actually optional there 2016-08-16T04:32:29 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-npmrcobokjfnaxgp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-16T04:32:39 < upgrdman> not where i was. most stall were very well enclosed. 2016-08-16T04:32:50 < upgrdman> but they all fucking stunk. all of them. 2016-08-16T04:33:04 < dongs> ror 2016-08-16T04:37:17 < Thorn__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NklsbOaBYSg 2016-08-16T04:40:03 < zyp> and then you have american toilets with those huge gaps around the door 2016-08-16T04:41:33 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Manufacturing/Design-manufacture-chair-for/ attn Laurenceb 2016-08-16T04:42:59 < englishman> when he turned the gps on it started at 0,0 ... and he has detonator in his hand 2016-08-16T04:43:00 < englishman> lol 2016-08-16T04:45:12 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Engineering/Design-Create-Wired-USB-Wireless/ 2016-08-16T04:45:15 < dongs> haha 2016-08-16T04:46:02 < englishman> latest lil dongs activity (spoiler alert: hes a fucking douche) https://i.sli.mg/Xofa4l.jpg 2016-08-16T04:46:49 < englishman> usb range extender 2016-08-16T04:47:44 < englishman> I have a budget of about $300-$500 for wireless FPV system, preferably 3D. I don't own a drone as of yet and need it for practicing martial arts (my plan is to avoid using mirrors to practice my moves/hits). 2016-08-16T04:48:00 < dongs> is that an actual freecancer 2016-08-16T04:48:08 < englishman> worse 2016-08-16T04:48:15 < dongs> rcgroups.com then 2016-08-16T04:48:19 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/jj6fbvi3zifx.jpg 2016-08-16T04:48:44 < englishman> worse, mirc.com 2016-08-16T04:52:50 < upgrdman> :) 2016-08-16T04:56:36 < jadew> anyone here having their own business? how do you start? 2016-08-16T04:57:05 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/E8XS8?r 2016-08-16T04:57:32 < dongs> /notstm32 upgrdman 2016-08-16T04:57:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:895e:c514:6b59:10e0] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T04:57:59 < upgrdman> right cause we're usually on topic 2016-08-16T04:58:41 < jadew> crt, any tips? I seriously need to quit my job but I want to get something going before I do that 2016-08-16T04:59:19 < jadew> I wouldn't have any for the one I'm planning 2016-08-16T04:59:33 < jadew> all of the business examples I had around me were failed ones 2016-08-16T04:59:39 < englishman> jadew: first you need a lot of money to lose 2016-08-16T04:59:48 < jadew> englishman, I would like to avoid that 2016-08-16T04:59:54 < upgrdman> damn, just a tazer :( http://i.imgur.com/Qb8jLDe.gifv 2016-08-16T05:03:37 < jadew> porn sites are a great source of revenue 2016-08-16T05:03:46 < jadew> I know someone who built a couple 2016-08-16T05:03:51 < jadew> sold one for $300k 2016-08-16T05:04:13 < jadew> paid $150k in settlements and pocketed 150 2016-08-16T05:04:35 < jadew> hehe, don't kno 2016-08-16T05:04:37 < jadew> *know 2016-08-16T05:04:52 < jadew> he had something more general purpose 2016-08-16T05:05:06 < jadew> in fact it was so general purpose it was hard to navigate it 2016-08-16T05:05:11 < jadew> lots of beastiality crap 2016-08-16T05:05:27 < jadew> R2COM, could work 2016-08-16T05:05:30 < zyp> «general purpose» «bestiality» 2016-08-16T05:05:43 < jadew> zyp, hehe, well, it had everything 2016-08-16T05:05:52 < scrts> lol, you could only tatoo two hashtags on your dick 2016-08-16T05:05:58 < scrts> unless it's font size 6 2016-08-16T05:06:03 < jadew> and it wasn't filtered by default, you basically had the chance of getting on the home page and seeing some horse dick 2016-08-16T05:06:20 < englishman> nice 2016-08-16T05:06:23 < zyp> I technically have my own business, I just don't have much in the way of customers :p 2016-08-16T05:06:35 < jadew> hehe zyp 2016-08-16T05:06:42 < jadew> well, I do too, but I don't have a product either lol 2016-08-16T05:06:53 < jadew> I have everything set up, I just have 0 activity 2016-08-16T05:07:01 < jadew> only paying the bank fees 2016-08-16T05:07:52 < jadew> and all my ideas seem to involve me working for months straight at the offchance that it might take off, not sure if it's a good business plan 2016-08-16T05:08:05 < jadew> R2COM, does blogging pay out? 2016-08-16T05:09:06 < jadew> R2COM, what do you mean? you got hired because of the blog? 2016-08-16T05:09:30 < jadew> nice 2016-08-16T05:09:51 < jadew> that was sort of the plan with that project I wanted to release, but I don't think I want to look for another job 2016-08-16T05:10:08 < englishman> whats the blog, r2blog 2016-08-16T05:10:16 < jadew> crt, I agree 2016-08-16T05:10:54 < jadew> R2COM, having a boss sucks 2016-08-16T05:11:05 < jadew> because your development is not directly in your hands 2016-08-16T05:11:55 < jadew> well, how you get to do it matters too 2016-08-16T05:12:00 < jadew> and where you are in the decision chain 2016-08-16T05:12:21 < jadew> not for the direct outcome of the project or how much money you get 2016-08-16T05:12:31 < jadew> but for your personal development and how hireable you are 2016-08-16T05:13:49 < jadew> crt, same here 2016-08-16T05:14:40 < jadew> tbh, I want something that generates enough income that I can focus on the things I enjoy 2016-08-16T05:15:23 < jadew> you're making an ASIC? 2016-08-16T05:15:30 < dongs> buttcoin asic 2016-08-16T05:15:33 < jadew> neat 2016-08-16T05:16:03 < jadew> is it a lot of low level design or mainly HDL and positioning of the blocks? 2016-08-16T05:16:07 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T05:16:20 < jadew> sweet 2016-08-16T05:18:41 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-16T05:19:33 < jadew> R2COM, yeah, but after that campaign failed I stopped developing it and it still needs a lot of work 2016-08-16T05:19:35 < dongs> jadew: wanna make me a quick app to rotate PCB dicknplace data? $50 paypal or else I'm gonna post on freecancer 2016-08-16T05:19:40 < jadew> not sure it's worth the extra effort 2016-08-16T05:19:58 < dongs> :D 2016-08-16T05:20:03 < jadew> what? sounds fair 2016-08-16T05:20:06 < jadew> but I'll pass 2016-08-16T05:20:07 < dongs> freecancer will do it for 50 for sure 2016-08-16T05:20:24 < jadew> I'm too stressed out about what to do next with my life 2016-08-16T05:20:46 < dongs> what now? 2016-08-16T05:20:57 < dongs> are you saying cuckcad can transpose dicknplace data? 2016-08-16T05:21:08 < jadew> dongs, send me a file and tell me what you need 2016-08-16T05:21:14 < jadew> if it's simple enough I'll do it for free 2016-08-16T05:21:55 < dongs> jadew: it is simple, like x,y = 5,3, rotate -90deg, becomes -3,5 + apply offset on both x/y (inputs are angle, x y offset) 2016-08-16T05:22:10 < jadew> why don't you do it? 2016-08-16T05:22:12 < dongs> R2COM: beep, does cuckcad do transpose of dicknplace data 2016-08-16T05:22:26 < dongs> jadew: lazy 2016-08-16T05:22:31 < dongs> R2COM: then shut the fuck up, im sure it doesnt 2016-08-16T05:22:34 < jadew> ah, then Ican't help you with it :P 2016-08-16T05:23:18 < jadew> sounds like a 15 minutes project tho, no reason to waste $50 on it 2016-08-16T05:24:10 < dongs> jadew: its the input + output part thats annoying 2016-08-16T05:24:21 < jadew> how is it formatted? 2016-08-16T05:24:25 < dongs> just csv lol 2016-08-16T05:24:29 < jadew> come on... 2016-08-16T05:25:25 < dongs> i think for 90/180/etc rotation matrix is just 0/-1/1/0 or whatever 2016-08-16T05:25:30 < dongs> x,y becomes -y,x 2016-08-16T05:25:32 < dongs> for -90 2016-08-16T05:25:33 < dongs> etc. 2016-08-16T05:25:40 < jadew> dongs, you need a center point 2016-08-16T05:25:49 < jadew> and then you use a rotation formula 2016-08-16T05:26:05 < dongs> well center point is PCB origin, 0,0 2016-08-16T05:26:14 < dongs> bottom left 2016-08-16T05:26:35 < dongs> then x,y gets rotated against that, and new offset is given (usually just pcb width/height, to offset the new data) 2016-08-16T05:27:19 < dongs> for -90, yea 2016-08-16T05:27:25 < dongs> just as example. 2016-08-16T05:27:32 < jadew> thought you needed something more complex 2016-08-16T05:27:35 < dongs> i think if I freecancer it i'd make them make it generic enough 2016-08-16T05:29:26 < dongs> yeah non-90 rotation needs sin/cos or whaever 2016-08-16T05:29:30 < dongs> but i wont need that anyway. 2016-08-16T05:32:43 < englishman> just turn the machine 90deg 2016-08-16T05:41:45 < jadew> dongs, if you're going to do it yourself: http://dumb.ro/files/csv.h 2016-08-16T05:42:06 < jadew> (in case that was the problem) 2016-08-16T05:42:33 < jadew> vector test = csv_get_line("test,\"sadf abcd\""); 2016-08-16T05:43:12 < jadew> you'll have to do lexical casting to get the numbers tho 2016-08-16T05:43:35 < dongs> there's n ofuicking way im coding this myself (or using boost, lol) 2016-08-16T05:45:49 < jadew> you don't like boost? 2016-08-16T05:49:25 < Thorn__> dongs business found http://imgur.com/r/WTF/au1wg5B 2016-08-16T05:49:35 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-08-16T05:50:51 < jadew> dolphins of course 2016-08-16T05:53:37 < jadew> the second most itelligent being on the planet? let's eat it 2016-08-16T05:54:20 < englishman> fuck dolphins 2016-08-16T05:54:23 < englishman> most overrated animal 2016-08-16T05:54:31 < dongs> japs do it right 2016-08-16T05:54:33 < dongs> by killing them all 2016-08-16T05:54:36 < dongs> and eating in school food 2016-08-16T05:54:51 < jadew> found the cat 2016-08-16T05:55:15 < englishman> what year is this taken 2016-08-16T05:55:17 < englishman> all the crt 2016-08-16T05:55:48 < englishman> must be 3rd world country like japan, everyone is wearing parkas indoors 2016-08-16T05:56:30 < jadew> that place looks fun 2016-08-16T05:57:37 < jadew> holly crap, 1 million views 2016-08-16T06:12:47 < Thorn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_disliked_YouTube_videos 2016-08-16T06:13:38 < englishman> its all music 2016-08-16T06:17:03 < jadew> *bad music 2016-08-16T06:17:16 < jadew> no wonder it has so many dislikes 2016-08-16T06:17:59 < jadew> haha 2016-08-16T06:34:50 < dongs> wow 2016-08-16T06:34:55 < dongs> why does that COD thing have so many dislikes 2016-08-16T06:35:10 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeF3UTkCoxY 2016-08-16T06:36:21 < dongs> is that actual game footage or wat 2016-08-16T06:36:22 < dongs> looks ok to me 2016-08-16T06:36:28 < dongs> then again i never played any COD trash 2016-08-16T06:39:03 < dongs> ill it train my kids to shoot up schools y/n 2016-08-16T06:39:07 < dongs> will 2016-08-16T06:53:11 < dongs> "fun" 2016-08-16T06:53:15 < dongs> how is murdering innocent people fun 2016-08-16T06:53:20 < dongs> do any of those have single player modes 2016-08-16T06:53:25 < dongs> and do not require online connectivity 2016-08-16T06:54:12 < dongs> why do tehy shoot at me 2016-08-16T06:54:15 < dongs> I'm innocent too 2016-08-16T06:57:35 < englishman> rather than imprisoning and mudering thousands of innocent animal victims for their sweet juices inside 2016-08-16T06:57:38 < englishman> ala pokemon go 2016-08-16T06:58:13 < englishman> most violent sociopathic game of 2016 2016-08-16T07:23:45 < dongs> http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/news/rio-2016-egyptian-judo-athlete-sent-home-after-refusing-to-shake-hand-of-israeli-opponent-a7192651.html lol jews 2016-08-16T07:31:18 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T07:40:31 < dongs> who cares 2016-08-16T07:41:35 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-16T07:43:09 < _unreal_> dongs, I dont know whats with that web page but it just brought my computer to its knee's 2016-08-16T07:52:49 < dongs> _unreal_: which one, the egyptian /jew troll? 2016-08-16T08:13:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T08:16:38 < dongs> whats a nice way to limit Vin+Current to 5V/1A or something? 2016-08-16T08:17:06 < jpa-> limit in what a way? 2016-08-16T08:17:25 < jpa-> 1A polyfuse + 5V zener? :P 2016-08-16T08:17:26 < zyp> CV/CC I assume 2016-08-16T08:17:27 < dongs> cut off 2016-08-16T08:18:03 < zyp> cut off or just limited? 2016-08-16T08:18:17 < dongs> http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/product.do?id=NCP349 used t his before in other shit 2016-08-16T08:18:35 < dongs> thats overvoltage tho 2016-08-16T08:19:24 < zyp> oh, I assumed you were doing a supply, not input 2016-08-16T08:19:27 < zyp> should read better 2016-08-16T08:19:42 < dongs> ah yeah input 2016-08-16T08:19:52 < zyp> polyfuse and TVS? 2016-08-16T08:20:00 < zyp> like what I did on that LL board you assembled for me 2016-08-16T08:20:05 < dongs> i dint see any TVS wiht cutoff < like 9V or so 2016-08-16T08:21:02 < zyp> what's wrong with that NCP thing then? 2016-08-16T08:23:07 < dongs> not sure, maybe it'll do 2016-08-16T08:23:10 < dongs> the package size is kinda cunty 2016-08-16T08:24:04 < dongs> hmm 2A max 2016-08-16T08:25:23 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T08:32:19 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T08:48:23 < dongs> hm LTC4362 looks good but too expensive 2016-08-16T09:05:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-16T09:27:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T09:34:12 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d40803.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-16T09:36:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T09:41:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d417d3.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T09:44:24 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-16T09:45:33 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T09:50:09 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T09:56:58 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-187-197.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T09:59:06 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-133-218.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-16T10:07:46 < Steffanx> crt you only complain about that because you have to replace them 2016-08-16T10:08:08 < Steffanx> Lo crt 2016-08-16T10:08:11 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-16T10:08:36 < Steffanx> How was the working day? 2016-08-16T10:09:28 < Steffanx> One doesnt need more. 2016-08-16T10:09:29 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T10:09:39 < Steffanx> Except for munny. 2016-08-16T10:12:09 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-16T10:21:27 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-16T10:21:44 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T10:46:15 -!- Katz [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T10:50:30 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-16T10:50:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T10:51:40 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-16T11:00:48 -!- Katz [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-08-16T11:00:54 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T11:05:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T11:05:27 < dongs> err what the fuck 2016-08-16T11:05:31 < dongs> installing vs.net 2015 with update 3 2016-08-16T11:05:34 < dongs> after reinstall 2016-08-16T11:05:39 < dongs> C# is no longer an option to install? 2016-08-16T11:05:47 < dongs> jadew: ^ 2016-08-16T11:06:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d417d3.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-16T11:06:08 < dongs> all i have is C++ , F# and some PYTHON FAGGOTRY 2016-08-16T11:09:50 < zyp> do people actually use F#? I never really hear anybody talk about it 2016-08-16T11:10:30 < jpa-> they don't 2016-08-16T11:11:07 < dongs> i dont even wknow what the fuck t hat is 2016-08-16T11:11:09 < dongs> fortran? 2016-08-16T11:13:09 < PeterM> what is a F#? is that like someone yelling obsceneties at C#? 2016-08-16T11:13:54 < jpa-> F# is a functional language 2016-08-16T11:14:35 < dongs> pretty sure anything other than C is a non-functional language 2016-08-16T11:14:44 < zyp> :) 2016-08-16T11:15:14 < PeterM> yeah, so is haskell 2016-08-16T11:16:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.88] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T11:21:17 < PaulFertser> F# is similar to Ocaml. 2016-08-16T11:23:56 < dongs> the only thing ocaml was ever used for was mldonkey 2016-08-16T11:26:53 < PaulFertser> Yes, on my machine it was the only app that needed ocaml, agreed. 2016-08-16T11:32:02 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T11:38:44 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-16T11:43:49 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T11:46:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-16T12:16:05 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T12:19:28 < karlp> BrainDamage: re encoding, no, last night I just hit the ð key instead of hte ' key, they're beside each other, so no encoding problems, you got "what was intended" 2016-08-16T12:21:58 < Tectu> Hi folk 2016-08-16T12:22:01 < Tectu> folks* 2016-08-16T12:22:23 < Tectu> karlp, did you check that "song" I linked yesterday? 2016-08-16T12:28:20 < Steffanx> Hello my fellow folk. 2016-08-16T12:29:39 < Tectu> Good day to you, Mr. Steffanx. How are your STM32's today? 2016-08-16T12:30:03 < Steffanx> Not sure. Did ask them this morning. 2016-08-16T12:30:21 < karlp> Tectu: thanks for the kind words re me and laks, but that metalstep was a bit off for me. finding it even hard to describe why I don't like it. 2016-08-16T12:33:18 < Tectu> karlp, don't worry, you either like it or you don't. nobody managed to explain why not so far :p 2016-08-16T12:33:23 < Tectu> karlp, what about metal in general? 2016-08-16T12:44:50 < zyp> karlp, don't like what? 2016-08-16T12:45:37 < Tectu> zyp, metalstep, more specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eIc2JYJtks 2016-08-16T12:46:09 < zyp> is that like a hybrid of metal and dubstep? 2016-08-16T12:46:58 < zyp> people invent too many genres 2016-08-16T12:50:14 < dongs> anything *step is fucking garbage 2016-08-16T12:50:20 < dongs> dumbstep 2016-08-16T12:55:15 < Tectu> zyp, yes it is 2016-08-16T12:58:38 < Tectu> this album is a pretty fun ride if you are into that kind of stuff (and not some butthurt god aficionado) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_XUcofN9Ns&feature=youtu.be&t=2162 2016-08-16T12:59:28 < PaulFertser> Manowar says "Death to false metal!" 2016-08-16T12:59:42 < karlp> old twostep was alright. where *step came from. 2016-08-16T13:00:08 < karlp> heh, manowar, "we need to go back!" 2016-08-16T13:00:21 < Tectu> kings of metal! 2016-08-16T13:00:58 < Tectu> I am quite open for any kind of music. What I don't like at all is raggae, but I don't mind if someone else does :p 2016-08-16T13:02:31 < karlp> just need more good stuff then 2016-08-16T13:03:36 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T13:08:17 < Tectu> how well known is Rammstein out there? 2016-08-16T13:09:34 < Tectu> in the world 2016-08-16T13:09:36 < Tectu> non-german world 2016-08-16T13:11:21 < zyp> yeah 2016-08-16T13:12:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-16T13:13:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T13:15:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-16T13:18:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T13:19:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-16T13:22:29 -!- ac|work [~ardu@178.124.147.109] has quit [Quit: https://goo.gl/ZCdyAJ] 2016-08-16T13:22:57 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-etqyjsaiyffwgtei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T13:26:51 < dongs> blah 2016-08-16T13:27:00 < dongs> looks like I'll just do zener +ptc 2016-08-16T13:27:05 < dongs> all the other shit is too expensive 2016-08-16T13:27:21 < dongs> fucking assholes don't wanna spend $$ on thousands of boards. 2016-08-16T13:30:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-16T13:31:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T13:32:17 < kakimir> what is your doings dongs ? 2016-08-16T13:33:03 < Tectu> Good day to you, kakimir 2016-08-16T13:33:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-16T13:50:46 < kakimir> Tectu: will 200g 2/2 twill GF bend nicely as the first layers of mold after gelcoat? 2016-08-16T13:51:40 < kakimir> dem briks are not selling 150g 2016-08-16T13:51:45 < kakimir> only 100 or 200 2016-08-16T13:52:12 < Tectu> what 2016-08-16T13:52:17 < Tectu> I have no idea what you are talking about 2016-08-16T13:52:22 < Tectu> the first half sounds like some drug dealing business 2016-08-16T13:52:27 < Tectu> the second half sounds like some DIY machining 2016-08-16T13:53:05 < Tectu> you might want to talk to Rob235 and Sync 2016-08-16T13:53:41 < kakimir> how do you know I need to talk to Rob235 ? 2016-08-16T13:54:12 < Tectu> as I said, first half of that question sounds like it's drug related -> Rob235 2016-08-16T13:54:18 < Tectu> second half sounds like some machining stuff -> Sync 2016-08-16T13:54:44 < kakimir> oh I got it now 2016-08-16T13:55:09 < kakimir> #kush32 2016-08-16T13:56:06 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UzS1OEX2iY 2016-08-16T14:06:51 < Ecco> Hey 2016-08-16T14:07:00 < Ecco> I'd like to stress-test Lithium batteries 2016-08-16T14:07:08 < Tectu> Good day to you, Mr. Ecco 2016-08-16T14:07:14 < Ecco> (cycle them many times, measure how they behave in the long term) 2016-08-16T14:07:17 < Tectu> better talk to Mr. Dongs about batteries. 2016-08-16T14:07:17 < dongs> get some nails 2016-08-16T14:07:19 < Ecco> Hi Tectu, are you doing good? 2016-08-16T14:07:24 < dongs> and a hammer 2016-08-16T14:07:28 < Tectu> Ecco, I am doing fine, thanks. how about there? 2016-08-16T14:07:28 < dongs> good stress test for lipos 2016-08-16T14:07:36 < Ecco> Great too :-) 2016-08-16T14:07:44 < Tectu> glad to hear that :) 2016-08-16T14:07:58 < Ecco> I may have questions for you later tomorrow, I'll be setting up my first STM32 - FSMC - LCD panel setup 2016-08-16T14:08:09 < Tectu> Ecco, sure, I should be around all day tomorrow. 2016-08-16T14:08:41 < Ecco> Thanks a lot in advance :) 2016-08-16T14:08:46 < Tectu> No worries, happy to help :) 2016-08-16T14:09:01 < Ecco> so dongs, regarding LiPo test 2016-08-16T14:09:07 < Ecco> I'm testing single-cell batteries 2016-08-16T14:09:07 < Tectu> I won't be of any help regarding battery stuff though. 2016-08-16T14:09:18 < Ecco> I'd just like to ensure that they don't die after a few cycle 2016-08-16T14:09:26 < Ecco> have a look at the discharge curve 2016-08-16T14:09:36 < Ecco> and make sure the capacity is as annouced 2016-08-16T14:09:41 < Ecco> what gear would you recommend? 2016-08-16T14:09:56 < Ecco> I'm considering getting a 0720i charger from Hyperion 2016-08-16T14:10:05 < Tectu> Ecco, ultra high horizontal div setting on your scope and this: http://blog.embedded.pro/improvised-dummy-load/ 2016-08-16T14:10:24 < Ecco> Yeah, that could do the trick 2016-08-16T14:10:32 < Ecco> but I'd like something that cycles the battery 2016-08-16T14:10:48 < Ecco> so that it gets old fast :) 2016-08-16T14:10:48 < Tectu> attach wife to that setup. done. 2016-08-16T14:10:55 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-16T14:11:18 < Tectu> afaik R/C people have quite affordable solutions for that 2016-08-16T14:11:49 < Ecco> Indeed 2016-08-16T14:12:01 < Ecco> That Hyperion thing I'm refereing to is an RC product 2016-08-16T14:12:33 < Tectu> Ecco, http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__5548__IMAX_B6_50W_5A_Charger_Discharger_1_6_Cells_GENUINE_.html 2016-08-16T14:13:06 < Tectu> ah, didn't see that hyperion message, sorry. 2016-08-16T14:14:05 < Ecco> I'm looking for one withan USB interface 2016-08-16T14:15:48 < kakimir> there is chargers with usb connection 2016-08-16T14:16:09 < kakimir> and propably some kind of rs232 based data you can graph 2016-08-16T14:16:16 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T14:16:42 < Ecco> Indeed, that's what I'm looking for 2016-08-16T14:16:48 < kakimir> I don't know if it has control too 2016-08-16T14:16:53 < Getty> oh yeah, sure, those videos of guys running on the top of skyscraper isnt enough...... now they do it with skateboards...... 2016-08-16T14:16:54 < Ecco> well, that Hyperion thing stores charging data to an SQLite database :) 2016-08-16T14:17:03 < kakimir> so some script could handle cycling 2016-08-16T14:17:10 * Ecco can't wait for the video where they slip 2016-08-16T14:17:38 < Tectu> Getty, wtf, link? 2016-08-16T14:19:43 < Getty> http://9gag.com/gag/a0jeYZd i didnt watched it really was already too shocked after 1 sec. 2016-08-16T14:19:57 < Getty> people are CRAZY 2016-08-16T14:20:18 < Getty> are those people really humans? or are those just some aliens with gopros who fuck around with us? 2016-08-16T14:22:43 < Tectu> oh boy 2016-08-16T14:24:46 < Getty> you watched it complete? 2016-08-16T14:24:53 < Tectu> well it's not that long 2016-08-16T14:25:06 < Tectu> unless I missed something. I just saw the potatoHD GIF at the top 2016-08-16T14:25:18 < Getty> yeah i didnt tried..... 2016-08-16T14:25:26 < Getty> this shit is scary ..... 2016-08-16T14:26:27 < kakimir> I see what you mean.. the video quality is horror 2016-08-16T14:26:50 < Getty> lol 2016-08-16T14:27:22 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-16T14:27:58 < Getty> kakimir must have balls of steel ;-) 2016-08-16T14:43:20 < Ecco> dongs: more seriously though, what setup would you use to benchmark single-cell lipos? 2016-08-16T14:45:56 < dongs> i donno i dont autism over that shit 2016-08-16T14:46:41 < Ecco> what do you mean? 2016-08-16T14:46:59 < Ecco> You think there's no point in testing a battery? 2016-08-16T14:47:50 < Ecco> How can you tell which lipo's are reputable? There's like a billion manufacturers 2016-08-16T14:48:46 < emeryth> only fluke lipos 2016-08-16T14:48:46 < kakimir> panasonic etc. can't go wrong with them 2016-08-16T14:48:48 < Tectu> same as with women: Take them out for dinner three times 2016-08-16T14:48:59 < kakimir> Tectu: then what? 2016-08-16T14:49:07 < Tectu> I don't know, I never got past that point 2016-08-16T14:49:15 < Tectu> just kidding, of course :p 2016-08-16T14:49:24 < kakimir> what happens before 3 dinners out? 2016-08-16T14:49:39 < Tectu> 38% chance that they ask for your credit card number 2016-08-16T14:49:45 < Tectu> 50% chance that they are your cousin 2016-08-16T14:50:01 < Tectu> 12% chance that I am just talking shit 2016-08-16T14:50:15 < jpa-> why'd you take them out for dinner in the first place? 2016-08-16T14:50:16 < Ecco> (it didn't have to add up to 100% though :-p) 2016-08-16T14:50:53 < Tectu> Ecco, screw you :p 2016-08-16T14:51:37 < jpa-> Ecco: why is your bottom rubber such lousy quality? 2016-08-16T14:51:51 < jpa-> i've had to redo it all in polyurethane 2016-08-16T14:55:24 < zyp> stop rubbing your bottom so much and it'll be fine 2016-08-16T14:57:56 < Tectu> Sorry, you're on your own mate 2016-08-16T14:58:39 < Tectu> yeah, still looking for a suitable skateboard though 2016-08-16T15:00:30 < Ecco> jpa-: What? 2016-08-16T15:00:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-16T15:01:25 < jpa-> http://ctwatchdog.com/business/ecco-shoes-warning-almost-new-expensive-shoes-disintegrate 2016-08-16T15:15:22 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T15:20:44 < Laurenceb__> lol 2016-08-16T15:25:00 < kakimir> recommend half mask with inexpensive/popular type of filters 2016-08-16T15:26:13 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.138] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T15:29:13 < englishman> Tectu: rammstein played here last month. And I had tix. But I missed it :'( 2016-08-16T15:29:41 < Tectu> englishman, oh noes :( 2016-08-16T15:30:05 < englishman> Even if you're not into noisy guitar shit its supposed to be a fun show. 2016-08-16T15:31:56 < PeterM> flake? 2016-08-16T15:32:24 < PeterM> i saw rammstein when they were in aus in 2011, fuckin top notch show 2016-08-16T15:40:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T15:53:50 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T15:54:12 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-16T15:54:38 < englishman> how are everyones pokemons today 2016-08-16T15:54:50 < kakimir> okay so anything that accepts 40mm standard filter thread 2016-08-16T16:00:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T16:03:34 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-16T16:04:36 < englishman> im unsure 2016-08-16T16:04:46 < englishman> my account got b& 2016-08-16T16:05:12 < englishman> leaving all those poor pokemans and the skeletons of the thousands of raped and murdered pokemans that i had turned into candy, in limbo 2016-08-16T16:05:13 < ReadError> ur pikacuz got gaschambered 2016-08-16T16:05:52 < englishman> its literally genocide: the game 2016-08-16T16:14:19 -!- lenovo_ [~lenovo@99-60-100-45.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T16:18:06 -!- _unreal_ [~lenovo@99-60-100-45.lightspeed.wepbfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-16T16:23:15 < carabia> You sure it's static? 2016-08-16T16:32:03 < jadew> dongs, weird 2016-08-16T16:32:19 < dongs> jadew: it installed teh shit, apparently C#/VB.NET is not even an option anymore. 2016-08-16T16:32:22 < dongs> you get it regardless 2016-08-16T16:32:28 < dongs> only "options" are C++ or F# 2016-08-16T16:32:31 < jadew> ah, hehe 2016-08-16T16:32:45 < jadew> so it's not a plot to get you to pay extra for it 2016-08-16T16:32:49 < dongs> yeah 2016-08-16T16:33:00 < dongs> this is vs.pro from msdn, i would hope it fucking includes real tools 2016-08-16T16:33:16 < Rob235> wtf is F#? 2016-08-16T16:33:21 < Tectu> programming language 2016-08-16T16:33:26 < jadew> Rob235, functional language 2016-08-16T16:33:27 < Rob235> yea I got that, just never heard of it 2016-08-16T16:33:28 < dongs> some trash 2016-08-16T16:33:38 < dongs> jadew: ended up with this for the rotation app http://i.imgur.com/BNOQCgM.png 2016-08-16T16:34:03 < jadew> dongs, already made or someone made it for you? 2016-08-16T16:34:18 < kakimir> what is happening in that pic dongs? 2016-08-16T16:34:23 < dongs> i freecancer'd the logic + i/o since i'm too lazy to write boilerplate shit, tehn i did the UI 2016-08-16T16:34:36 < ReadError> 100$ for a custom pcb color 2016-08-16T16:34:40 < ReadError> is that about right? 2016-08-16T16:34:53 < jadew> nice 2016-08-16T16:35:11 < dongs> anyway, it does exactly waht i want 2016-08-16T16:35:23 < dongs> i figurd out the x/y offset shit is acutally just pcb width/height 2016-08-16T16:35:44 < dongs> since it translates that around zero first, then offset 2016-08-16T16:35:56 < jadew> how much did you pay for 20 linues of code? 2016-08-16T16:36:01 < jadew> *lines 2016-08-16T16:36:08 < dongs> jade, same shit i offered you and you refused 2016-08-16T16:37:08 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.219] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T16:37:22 < jadew> you should have installed boost hehe 2016-08-16T16:37:37 < dongs> boost didnt come preinstalled with vs2015, so no 2016-08-16T16:37:49 < kakimir> dongs: did you get india dudes to code? 2016-08-16T16:37:55 < kakimir> *paki 2016-08-16T16:38:18 < jadew> lol 2016-08-16T16:38:22 < dongs> some south african paki 2016-08-16T16:38:38 < dongs> soime indian bid 2016-08-16T16:38:42 < Tectu> better don't tell carabia 2016-08-16T16:38:42 < dongs> and noticed im from japan 2016-08-16T16:38:48 < dongs> and started spamming shit about samurai movies and anime 2016-08-16T16:38:48 < kakimir> did he have any references dongs ? 2016-08-16T16:38:54 < jadew> haha 2016-08-16T16:38:57 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-16T16:39:11 < dongs> kakimir: sure, like 150 completed projects or someshit 2016-08-16T16:39:25 < dongs> clearly a freecancer pro 2016-08-16T16:39:34 < Tectu> I wonder how difficult it is to get started in that 2016-08-16T16:39:36 < Tectu> with* 2016-08-16T16:39:41 < Tectu> w/ like zero references 2016-08-16T16:39:45 < dongs> just do it 2016-08-16T16:39:50 < dongs> underbit pakis 2016-08-16T16:39:51 < dongs> yea 2016-08-16T16:39:53 < dongs> underbid 2016-08-16T16:40:13 < dongs> if your english isnt shit, most people are willing to work with you 2016-08-16T16:40:23 < jadew> Tectu, dongs had money to throw away, but usually it's not worth it to try to underbid them 2016-08-16T16:40:52 < dongs> usually the project is not worth it at all 2016-08-16T16:40:56 < jadew> they can feed their whole family with $2/day 2016-08-16T16:40:56 < dongs> BUT 2016-08-16T16:41:00 < Tectu> the fuck 2016-08-16T16:41:00 < kakimir> Tectu: if you live in western world.. dont do it 2016-08-16T16:41:05 < jadew> you can't compete with that 2016-08-16T16:41:07 < dongs> you can do a couple dumb not-worth projects and get over 9000 stars 2016-08-16T16:41:31 < dongs> jadew is actaully a freecancer pro 2016-08-16T16:41:35 < dongs> with over 500 projects completed 2016-08-16T16:41:40 < jadew> haha 2016-08-16T16:41:45 < Tectu> better do ugfx support 2016-08-16T16:41:49 < dongs> he just wont admit it 2016-08-16T16:42:18 < jadew> I've done 3 freelance projects 2016-08-16T16:42:28 < jadew> but more than a decade ago 2016-08-16T16:42:36 < jadew> earned ~$400 2016-08-16T16:42:39 < dongs> back when it was rentacoder.com? 2016-08-16T16:43:01 < jadew> don't remember, it was one of the sites that got bought by freelancer.com 2016-08-16T16:43:20 < dongs> my account is from like 2006 cuz i signed up for rentachoad to get soem directshow coding done for me 2016-08-16T16:43:30 < dongs> so its like super senior status. 2016-08-16T16:43:46 < Tectu> dongs the procancer 2016-08-16T16:43:49 < jadew> mine is equally old, because it got transferred to freelancer after the purchase 2016-08-16T16:43:58 < dongs> right 2016-08-16T16:44:03 < dongs> and the d ude did an awesome job too 2016-08-16T16:44:36 < dongs> so it must have been rentachoad, cuz i dont think they bought anything else 2016-08-16T16:44:45 < dongs> rentachoad got renamed into something then bought out. 2016-08-16T16:44:55 < jadew> no, they bought a bunch of them 2016-08-16T16:45:07 < Tectu> so dongs and jadew are like old-buddies? 2016-08-16T16:45:16 < jadew> yeah, we just didn't know about it 2016-08-16T16:45:28 < dongs> jadew actually wrote that directshow code. 2016-08-16T16:45:33 < dongs> he jhust dosesnt know it yet. 2016-08-16T16:56:37 < ReadError> dongs i learned a lifehack 2016-08-16T16:56:43 < ReadError> control+shift + mousewheel 2016-08-16T16:56:47 < ReadError> in altium 2016-08-16T16:57:11 < dongs> um, i have back/forward buttons on my mouse for that 2016-08-16T16:57:14 < dongs> or =/- in numpad 2016-08-16T16:57:41 < ReadError> so you remap mouse buttons just for altium work ? 2016-08-16T16:57:50 < dongs> i dont use them for anything else so yes 2016-08-16T17:00:12 < ReadError> they need to fix that shit if you violate a rule then control+z to undo, it still shows all fugly violated 2016-08-16T17:04:26 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-16T17:05:44 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-16T17:06:07 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T17:07:15 < dongs> also that wheel thing is backwards 2016-08-16T17:07:17 < dongs> fuck that 2016-08-16T17:07:34 < Rob235> wow, didn't realize these were so cheap: http://www.ebay.com/itm/100Pcs-6x6x4-5mm-Panel-PCB-Momentary-Tactile-Tact-Push-Button-Switch-4Pin-TS-/172040053810?hash=item280e62e432:g:JwoAAOSwo3pWfGDm 2016-08-16T17:07:47 < dongs> yes 2016-08-16T17:07:51 < carabia> You need them on your vaper? 2016-08-16T17:08:04 < dongs> i got like 1k bag of right angle ones for super cheap 2016-08-16T17:08:07 < Rob235> no... 2016-08-16T17:08:33 < dongs> those racists dont ship to japan tho 2016-08-16T17:08:57 < jadew> I need a bag of those but with the long cap 2016-08-16T17:09:46 < Rob235> if you put a piece in front of the switch (to increase surface area or for design) what are those called? or is that not something people do? 2016-08-16T17:10:14 < jadew> that's a cap 2016-08-16T17:10:29 < Rob235> where is a good place to look for different caps? 2016-08-16T17:10:31 < carabia> Have you ever tried to vape freebase Rob235? 2016-08-16T17:10:32 < jadew> I don't know how to call that thing you press on 2016-08-16T17:11:09 < Rob235> carabia: it's the only way to fly 2016-08-16T17:11:19 < jadew> http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&SearchText=pcb+button+cap 2016-08-16T17:11:24 < jadew> Rob235 ^ 2016-08-16T17:11:27 < carabia> I call bullshit 2016-08-16T17:12:14 < jadew> www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-12x12x14mm-PCB-Momentary-Tactile-Push-Button-Switch-Square-White-Cap/32342463792.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.155.w2qOtH&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_1_10057_10056_10037_10055_10049_301_10059_10058_10032_10017_106_105_104_10060_103_10061_102_10062,searchweb201603_1&btsid=22630fb5-08ee-4c80-ad8b-559c61332a93 2016-08-16T17:12:16 < Rob235> so they basically always come as a single piece? 2016-08-16T17:13:00 < carabia> I don't even need freebase, i just regex the shit out of it. 2016-08-16T17:13:33 < Rob235> I really need a 3d printer 2016-08-16T17:14:12 < dongs> yours for $1k + shipping 2016-08-16T17:14:15 < dongs> but shipping weight is liek 20kg 2016-08-16T17:14:18 < dongs> (thats how you know its not shit 2016-08-16T17:14:22 < Rob235> haha hell no 2016-08-16T17:14:28 < Rob235> i'll build one for 350 2016-08-16T17:14:33 < dongs> good luck, shit that prints similar quality is $5k+ 2016-08-16T17:14:39 < dongs> for 350 you'll be squeezing out garbage 2016-08-16T17:15:02 < carabia> I hear you can make a sick vape with a 3d-printer 2016-08-16T17:15:13 < Rob235> I don't need anything amazing at the moment, maybe a little bit more than 350 but not much 2016-08-16T17:15:13 < carabia> you basically feed it with the liquid-thing... 2016-08-16T17:15:15 < dongs> who teh fuck is carabia 2016-08-16T17:15:27 < dongs> looks liek a tryhard 2016-08-16T17:15:30 < Rob235> someone that won't stop talking 2016-08-16T17:15:31 < dongs> crt, is that your clone 2016-08-16T17:15:51 < carabia> dongs: shh little one. 2016-08-16T17:17:08 < jadew> dongs, what printer is that? I want a 3d printer too 2016-08-16T17:18:38 < carabia> Whoa. '5k'? 2016-08-16T17:20:16 < Rob235> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tactile-Push-Button-Switch-Momentary-Tact-Cap-12x12x7-3mm-KeyCaps-Assorted-Kit-/221867170115?hash=item33a8505943:g:w-wAAOSw0JpV4U-w 2016-08-16T17:20:56 < karlp> anyone used a uclamp3301d before? it says it can be used to protect a 3.3v line, and triggers at 3.5v, 2016-08-16T17:21:17 < karlp> but once it triggers, you need to drop below 2.8 before it stops being turned on. 2016-08-16T17:21:29 < dongs> karlp: ive used their highspeed ESD thingies 2016-08-16T17:21:41 < dongs> hm just looks liek a tvs 2016-08-16T17:21:50 < karlp> I have a feeling that we've got a shitty LDO that is spiking just over 3.5 at startup, and we end up with the uclamp shits just sitting there burning current while the rest of the system is back to normal. 2016-08-16T17:22:33 < karlp> one board is behaving "normally" one is working fine, regulator is cool, but the uclamp is hot and there's a PTC that's hot because we're way over the current limit we expected. 2016-08-16T17:22:51 < karlp> yeah, just a tvs thing. 2016-08-16T17:23:43 < dongs> karlp: can you hookup vcc to a highspeed scope and check? 2016-08-16T17:23:49 < dongs> to see if it really goes over 3.5? 2016-08-16T17:24:01 < karlp> yeah, think that' snext. 2016-08-16T17:24:19 < karlp> but the semtech doc is like, "don't connect this to anything with a dc supply over 2.8, cos that won't work well" 2016-08-16T17:24:34 < karlp> even though the prior paragraphg is "works great to protect 3.3v lines, doesn't do anything until 3.5v" 2016-08-16T17:24:42 < dongs> If a 3.3V 2016-08-16T17:24:43 < dongs> TVS is connected to 3.3V DC source, it will never fall 2016-08-16T17:24:43 < dongs> below the snap-back voltage of 2.8V and will therefore 2016-08-16T17:24:43 < dongs> stay in a conducting state 2016-08-16T17:24:52 < dongs> this? 2016-08-16T17:24:56 < karlp> yup 2016-08-16T17:25:38 < karlp> kinda seems like it's a poor choice for this application, despite earlier in the doc saying also suitable for power supply lines. 2016-08-16T17:25:38 < dongs> hmm 2016-08-16T17:25:40 < dongs> what a dumb thing 2016-08-16T17:25:41 < dongs> yeah 2016-08-16T17:26:34 < dongs> will 2016-08-16T17:26:35 < dongs> protect one unidirectional line. 2016-08-16T17:26:39 < dongs> ?? unidirectional? 2016-08-16T17:27:18 < dongs> Transient protection for data lines to 2016-08-16T17:27:29 < dongs> almost sounds like it wasnt made for power lines at all? 2016-08-16T17:28:55 < scrts> dongs: did you try CoIDE stuff? 2016-08-16T17:29:03 < dongs> nope 2016-08-16T17:29:09 < dongs> i do use coocox but dont need their ide 2016-08-16T17:29:21 < scrts> good stuff so far? 2016-08-16T17:29:34 < dongs> scrts: err, coocox as in coos. donno about hier hal shit 2016-08-16T17:29:38 < dongs> never used. 2016-08-16T17:29:55 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-16T17:29:56 < dongs> just use coos for simple task juggling on f1, works fine for me 2016-08-16T17:30:36 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T17:30:42 < karlp> yeah, docs for 3301p and 3301h (different packages) don't mention power supply lines at all. 2016-08-16T17:30:54 < karlp> gonna have to hassle the dude who put this on, get him to explain himself a bit better. 2016-08-16T17:31:25 < karlp> crt: well, unplug/replug should fix it, unless it's the plug startup that's triggering it. 2016-08-16T17:31:55 < dongs> there are zeners with 5.5V trigger in normal packages right? 2016-08-16T17:32:09 < dongs> couple days ago I was looking for a 7V one in DIP (because some shithead spec'd it) and there was none 2016-08-16T17:32:27 < dongs> smallest in DIP was like 9V or someshit 2016-08-16T17:37:52 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/9OS3b8E.png haha 2016-08-16T17:37:57 < dongs> this clown wants $750 for this project 2016-08-16T17:38:17 < aandrew> they gray on yellow is awesome 2016-08-16T17:38:36 < aandrew> and yes there are zeners with that in SOT23 2016-08-16T17:38:56 < dongs> i stopped reading at "25kW inverter" 2016-08-16T17:39:29 < aandrew> that's my bag, baby 2016-08-16T17:39:37 < aandrew> not for $750 though 2016-08-16T17:39:58 < dongs> All LCD screens need to have the connector on the circuit, to extend the LCD, to the  2016-08-16T17:40:02 < dongs> control panel. (In total there are 8 LCDs). 2016-08-16T17:40:11 < Laurenceb> nice character encoding 2016-08-16T17:40:49 < dongs> haha, 5000V showing lcd 2016-08-16T17:41:01 < dongs> this guy is gonna get zapped by shitty paki pcb 2016-08-16T17:43:15 < dongs> Remember that the working range is 12v to 260v DC 2016-08-16T17:43:50 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-16T17:43:59 < dongs> i think the highest dc/dc i used was like 80Vin 2016-08-16T17:44:05 < dongs> what the fuck is tehre even for 260V 2016-08-16T17:44:15 < ReadError> wtf woudld even have a range of 12-260 2016-08-16T17:44:17 < ReadError> off the shelf 2016-08-16T17:44:25 < dongs> maybe some kinda wind generator? fuck knows 2016-08-16T17:44:32 < dongs> HIGHER VOLTAGE WITH FASTER SPEED 2016-08-16T17:44:44 < dongs> he invented some MOTOR 2016-08-16T17:44:46 < ReadError> that picture is too hard to read 2016-08-16T17:44:50 < dongs> which will rotate at 8kW 2016-08-16T17:44:57 < dongs> so maybe its output from that 2016-08-16T17:44:58 < dongs> !!! 2016-08-16T17:45:30 < dongs> And we began to work hard, because I'm late in the project. 2016-08-16T17:45:48 < ReadError> sounds like a senior project 2016-08-16T17:45:48 < dongs> As you will see in the image, there is a terminal block, with a three phase current AC input.  2016-08-16T17:45:51 < dongs> This is because the engine that will put the circuit in motion causes an axial generator to  2016-08-16T17:45:54 < dongs> rotate roughly at about 8 kw. 2016-08-16T17:46:30 < ReadError> i bet it is 2016-08-16T17:46:45 < dongs> homework? 2016-08-16T17:46:52 < dongs> but fuck off, 25kW inverter? 2016-08-16T17:46:55 < ReadError> 4th year project as a senior 2016-08-16T17:47:02 < ReadError> its an entire semester 2016-08-16T17:47:09 < ReadError> you just do something 2016-08-16T17:47:18 < dongs> well he hasnt done shit 2016-08-16T17:47:22 < ReadError> right 2016-08-16T17:47:33 < ReadError> you are given a list of ideas or come up with one 2016-08-16T17:47:40 < ReadError> then you have the 5 months to finish or w/e 2016-08-16T17:48:50 < carabia> I find it funny how dongs you're like this, but in reality what the fuck have you ever done that's trying even remotely to be useful? 2016-08-16T17:49:50 < dongs> lol. 2016-08-16T17:50:01 < carabia> I mean clearly that guy's ignorant but the way I see it it's like the pot calling the kettle black here. 2016-08-16T17:50:21 < dongs> found carabia's freecancer project 2016-08-16T17:50:26 < karlp> carabia: https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blame/master/README.md#L5-L6 2016-08-16T17:50:41 < karlp> we can't help you if you don't want to be helped. 2016-08-16T17:52:06 < carabia> karlp: you're way past playing the cool-card here. 2016-08-16T17:52:14 < ReadError> who is this carabia guy 2016-08-16T17:52:19 < ReadError> he really likes the templeOS guy 2016-08-16T17:52:35 < jadew> the templeOS guy 2016-08-16T17:52:49 < ReadError> maybe 2016-08-16T17:53:38 < carabia> So dongs, shoot, what have you ever done? 2016-08-16T17:54:10 < ReadError> https://su.linkedin.com/in/gary-niger-80b6b75b 2016-08-16T17:54:17 < carabia> Let's start with anything even remotely associated with the channel's _alleged_ topic 2016-08-16T17:54:25 < ReadError> pretty extensive resume 2016-08-16T17:54:30 < carabia> Go. I'm all ears. 2016-08-16T17:55:36 < dongs> ReadError: thats a fake profile 2016-08-16T17:55:46 < ReadError> oh thats not the real one fuck 2016-08-16T17:55:53 < ReadError> it had something about irc blogging 2016-08-16T17:56:03 < carabia> dongs: ? 2016-08-16T17:56:12 < dongs> https://il.linkedin.com/in/gary-niger-77586252 2016-08-16T17:56:20 < ReadError> https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-niger-77586252 2016-08-16T17:58:23 < dongs> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivan-reedman-7b159237 2016-08-16T17:58:24 < dongs> ohh 2016-08-16T17:58:30 < dongs> hes an "embedded systems designer" now 2016-08-16T17:58:50 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-16T18:00:16 < carabia> So anyway for some reason I'm not surprised by dongs' resume, failing to come up with pretty much anything. 2016-08-16T18:00:24 < Laurenceb> When aliens send us their ships, they're not sending their best. They're bringing lasers. They're bringing crime. They're probers. 2016-08-16T18:00:48 < Laurenceb> muhahahahah Ivan Reedman 2016-08-16T18:01:03 < Laurenceb> the Chris-Chan of electronics 2016-08-16T18:01:15 < dongs> crt: yeah, something 'VIV' or someshit 2016-08-16T18:01:20 < dongs> already deleted all tweets and moved on 2016-08-16T18:01:20 < ReadError> Laurenceb you should outsource your project to him 2016-08-16T18:01:25 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-16T18:02:00 < Laurenceb> PCBs down to 100um trace 2016-08-16T18:02:05 < Laurenceb> ur mur gurd 2016-08-16T18:02:13 < dongs> a wat 2016-08-16T18:02:16 < dongs> is that from reedmans page 2016-08-16T18:02:21 < ReadError> 4mils 2016-08-16T18:02:22 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-08-16T18:02:25 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-16T18:02:49 < Laurenceb> virtually any other expression of logic 2016-08-16T18:02:53 < Laurenceb> >logic 2016-08-16T18:02:56 < ReadError> I cant think about pcb traces in mm for some reason 2016-08-16T18:02:57 < Laurenceb> > Ivan Reedman 2016-08-16T18:03:03 < Laurenceb> pls pick one 2016-08-16T18:03:06 < dongs> I also have extensive experience in practical fields such as mechanical design and both electronics and mechanical assembly. 2016-08-16T18:03:13 < dongs> but 2016-08-16T18:03:17 < dongs> isnt that how zano failed??? 2016-08-16T18:03:20 < ReadError> i wish i could make altium have my traces in mils and everything else in mm 2016-08-16T18:03:24 < ReadError> is this possible dongs 2016-08-16T18:04:11 < carabia> dongs: So you still can't come up with an answer as for anything relevant you've ever done? 2016-08-16T18:04:26 < dongs> carabia: i dont need to prove my dick size to some shithead on irc 2016-08-16T18:04:26 < ReadError> carabia doubt he cares to vet himself 2016-08-16T18:05:00 < ReadError> there ya go 2016-08-16T18:05:19 < ReadError> PeterM here? 2016-08-16T18:05:40 < carabia> Yeah I wasn't asking about your dick size, and the way I see it you seem to be interested in critisizing other people's proverbial "dick sizes", while having quite a petit one yourself. 2016-08-16T18:05:41 < ReadError> kilt some magnets, got some graphite powder coming today 2016-08-16T18:05:52 < ReadError> going to just mix up some epoxy and throw a shitload in 2016-08-16T18:05:59 < ReadError> and hope for the best 2016-08-16T18:06:50 < carabia> It's more like proving nothing, really. 2016-08-16T18:07:05 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4rZqCYEA7g 2016-08-16T18:07:14 < Laurenceb> Euro Truck Simulator 2 2016-08-16T18:10:26 < aandrew> carabia: dongs is actually pretty skilled. He loves to troll but you're making a mistake if you think that trolling must mean you're incompetent 2016-08-16T18:10:34 < Laurenceb> attn dongs https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/9/9d/Deathtrap.jpg/467px-Deathtrap.jpg 2016-08-16T18:10:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-16T18:10:51 < dongs> you pasted this before 2016-08-16T18:10:57 < dongs> or someone else did 2016-08-16T18:10:58 < Laurenceb> derp 2016-08-16T18:11:01 < aandrew> LOL at the linkedin profile. hahahahahahha 2016-08-16T18:11:16 < dongs> i tried to add reedman and he refused :( 2016-08-16T18:11:28 < carabia> aandrew: and acknowledging this channel, I am quite sure it doesn't take a whole lot to be regarded as "skilled" over here. 2016-08-16T18:11:32 < carabia> whatever that means, then. 2016-08-16T18:11:44 < dongs> carabia: let's start with your stm32 projects then. 2016-08-16T18:11:51 < dongs> let's see if I can outdick you on the ones I've done. 2016-08-16T18:11:57 < aandrew> who's ivan reedman? I thought Laurenceb but probably not 2016-08-16T18:11:58 < carabia> dongs: you still haven't answered me. 2016-08-16T18:12:15 < Laurenceb> aandrew: zano guy 2016-08-16T18:12:15 < dongs> i didnt see a question that needed answering 2016-08-16T18:12:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-16T18:12:19 < Laurenceb> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/16/swedish_pig_rampage/ 2016-08-16T18:12:19 < carabia> Ivan Reedman is probably dongs doing PR for himself. Or hell, maybe that was the answer to my question. 2016-08-16T18:12:27 < ReadError> hahah 2016-08-16T18:12:29 < ReadError> topic that 2016-08-16T18:12:32 < aandrew> carabia: again, you're making a mistake but it's yours to make 2016-08-16T18:12:42 < carabia> aandrew: I'm sure you're making a bigger one. 2016-08-16T18:12:53 < aandrew> there are actaully quite a few skilled people here. Why #stm32 seems to be troll central I am not sure 2016-08-16T18:12:55 * ReadError popcorn 2016-08-16T18:12:58 < zyp> carabia, sup? 2016-08-16T18:13:06 < aandrew> carabia: oh? and what mistake would I be making? 2016-08-16T18:13:19 < dongs> hi zyp, we're measuring dicks, care to join in? 2016-08-16T18:13:20 < carabia> Overestimating this peasant. 2016-08-16T18:13:27 < carabia> hi zyp, what's up? 2016-08-16T18:13:30 < zyp> dongs, nah, mine is too small 2016-08-16T18:14:13 < aandrew> who am I overestimating? dongs? I've known him for almost 20 years now 2016-08-16T18:14:53 < aandrew> dongs: actually that's kind of scary... we're fucking old man 2016-08-16T18:14:59 < dongs> indeed 2016-08-16T18:15:12 < dongs> and with that, i better cath some zzz's. gotta drive half a day tomorrow 2016-08-16T18:15:13 < Laurenceb> 20 years of irc 2016-08-16T18:15:15 < carabia> Well, what can I say. A lot of people hold all kinds of funny beliefs for way longer than that, even all the way to their grave. And when shit's personal it usually affects the opinion. 2016-08-16T18:15:21 < Laurenceb> even I'm not that sad 2016-08-16T18:15:24 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-16T18:15:26 < Laurenceb> see only 10 years on irc lol 2016-08-16T18:15:34 < zyp> so, uh, carabia is alleging that dongs doesn't have any real stm32 experience, am I reading that right? 2016-08-16T18:15:36 < dongs> thats cuz youre like 13 2016-08-16T18:15:43 < Laurenceb> nut quite 2016-08-16T18:15:43 < dongs> ( Laurenceb 2016-08-16T18:15:46 < Laurenceb> only mental age 2016-08-16T18:15:48 < carabia> zyp: not quite 2016-08-16T18:15:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T18:16:08 < zyp> okay, I haven't been following the entire conversation 2016-08-16T18:16:21 < zyp> mind summarizing exactly what you're alleging then? 2016-08-16T18:16:35 < ReadError> tl;dr carabia is trying to start shit with everyone 2016-08-16T18:16:38 < carabia> Mind minding your own business, the way I see it this had exactly nothing to do with you? 2016-08-16T18:16:59 < aandrew> zyp: nothing to follow. carabia is upset with dongs' trolling and essentially called him (and me too, apparently) out on his technical abilities 2016-08-16T18:17:11 < zyp> you're in a public channel, anything you write here is anyones business 2016-08-16T18:17:17 < aandrew> carabia: feel free to /ignore or plain old /quit. 2016-08-16T18:17:29 < carabia> zyp: well yes and no. 2016-08-16T18:18:07 < carabia> aandrew: I just might choose the former 2016-08-16T18:18:25 < aandrew> godspeed. 2016-08-16T18:18:59 < carabia> Oh thanks, hey you too. I'm sure you'll need it. 2016-08-16T18:20:10 < aandrew> so -- changing the subject -- is there any magic involved in starting a stdperiph project with atollic? this IDE is going to be the end of me. 2016-08-16T18:20:36 < zyp> haha 2016-08-16T18:20:54 < carabia> and just to correct you, What I was calling him out on was not his knowledge, (though, following some of the conversations, I think that too), but anything of note (projects, works, literally anything) he's ever done. 2016-08-16T18:21:00 < aandrew> if it wasn't for the client I'd stick to my cli stuff but they want a) stdperiph and b) atollic 2016-08-16T18:21:21 < Laurenceb> atrollic 2016-08-16T18:21:46 < zyp> carabia, if it helps reassure you, I own at least three different boards designed by dongs 2016-08-16T18:21:50 < aandrew> and I need to re-test my win7 download-less CDC but this particular PC doesn't like the hack, need to verify it works still 2016-08-16T18:21:59 < carabia> zyp: yeah, no. 2016-08-16T18:21:59 < aandrew> zyp: oh? which three? 2016-08-16T18:22:16 < aandrew> I was really hoping to do an FPGA project for him but that fell through 2016-08-16T18:23:08 < zyp> aandrew, off the top of my head I recall that dp adapter thing, some f3 flight controller and some esc prototypes 2016-08-16T18:23:40 < gxti> oh lawd is dat sum drama 2016-08-16T18:23:44 < carabia> crt: this channel (well, to whom it might concern), is like a tightly-woven inside-circle of ignorants, and to stir this status quo is for all of them to stand up (again, to whom it may concern) 2016-08-16T18:24:03 < aandrew> carabia: is this your first time on IRC? 2016-08-16T18:24:21 < carabia> aandrew: not by a long shot 2016-08-16T18:24:22 < ReadError> Ivan Reedman is probably dongs doing PR for himself. 2016-08-16T18:24:25 < aandrew> honstly. grow a thicker skin or bugger off. 2016-08-16T18:24:27 < ReadError> zyp can you topic that 2016-08-16T18:24:29 < ReadError> <3 2016-08-16T18:24:37 < dongs> i just finished taking a shit, and came back to take a look at this and carabia is still talking garbage 2016-08-16T18:24:39 < carabia> it really has nothing to do with skin, either 2016-08-16T18:24:51 < qyx> so much hate, so wow 2016-08-16T18:25:58 < zyp> ReadError, haha, it's not that memorable 2016-08-16T18:26:09 < carabia> crt: amen. 2016-08-16T18:26:18 < aandrew> we regularly make fun of freelancer projects here 2016-08-16T18:26:49 < Laurenceb> we troll everyone equally 2016-08-16T18:26:51 < aandrew> and I mean what's not to make fun of. 99.9% of projects are "I have a great idea." and you're supposed to bid on it 2016-08-16T18:27:19 < dongs> i bid $99 on the guy who wanted someone to "develop" a wireless usb extender for $250 budget 2016-08-16T18:27:27 < dongs> told him he'd need to add a couple zeros to that before I'd even bother looking 2016-08-16T18:27:35 < dongs> and linked him to some iogear usb2 wireless hub thingy 2016-08-16T18:27:36 < aandrew> and of that remaining 0.1%, 0.09 is "I want to build a spacex competitor." with a max project price of $1.99 2016-08-16T18:27:42 < dongs> which was $99 shipped retail 2016-08-16T18:27:46 < dongs> for an existing working product 2016-08-16T18:28:38 < aandrew> and then on the other side, you have 99.9% of the bidders offering to do a project with incomplete or nonexistent specs (see above) or unreasonable budgets with their own super lowball prices and short timelines 2016-08-16T18:28:44 < aandrew> the entire site is a giant troll 2016-08-16T18:28:51 < dongs> some guy wanted a mechanical keyboard designed 2016-08-16T18:29:07 < dongs> like.. key matrix + shit + and make it work using tarduino qmk/someshit firmware 2016-08-16T18:29:18 < dongs> i bid a few k 2016-08-16T18:29:22 < dongs> he was like 2016-08-16T18:29:27 < dongs> "why is everyone bidding liek $150 and you want so much" 2016-08-16T18:29:33 < aandrew> hahaa 2016-08-16T18:29:34 < dongs> I was like "cuz I'd actually get it done" 2016-08-16T18:29:46 < aandrew> freelancer is the contractor/contractee's kickstarter 2016-08-16T18:29:49 < gxti> there's decent tarduino-grade software you can jack for that 2016-08-16T18:29:54 < gxti> i used it for my model m adapter board 2016-08-16T18:29:59 < dongs> gxti, he actually wanted to use that already anywayt 2016-08-16T18:30:03 < dongs> QMK and soem other fork of that 2016-08-16T18:30:06 < gxti> last i checked no stm32port but it's been a while 2016-08-16T18:30:07 < dongs> TMK? or somethign 2016-08-16T18:30:09 < gxti> yeah 2016-08-16T18:30:23 < dongs> right. it looked OK, b ut tarduino only, there was some LPC port a while ago but nto much happened 2016-08-16T18:30:35 < dongs> all it does is just scans a matrix with gpio... not TOO complicated 2016-08-16T18:30:37 < gxti> i don't think it would be difficult to port but i wasn't going to sink the time into it 2016-08-16T18:30:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T18:31:20 < dongs> he had a couple dealbreakers in there tho 2016-08-16T18:31:26 < dongs> he wanted rgb backlight per key 2016-08-16T18:31:32 < dongs> and "ws2812 was not an option" 2016-08-16T18:31:42 < aandrew> WS2812 wasn't an option? too pricey? :-) 2016-08-16T18:31:43 < dongs> (dunno why, probly cuz tarduino can't drive 800khz + scan keys at same time 2016-08-16T18:32:05 < dongs> so i was like, if im gonna route you a board with 40 discreet rgb leds on it, you better be paying me 2016-08-16T18:33:32 < dongs> hmm looking back at the wireless usb shit, what exactly is that 2016-08-16T18:33:33 < dongs> https://www.iogear.com/product/GUWIP204/ 2016-08-16T18:33:36 < dongs> thats waht i linked 2016-08-16T18:33:39 < dongs> but how the fuck does that work? 2016-08-16T18:34:00 < dongs> oh.. it just shares a drive 2016-08-16T18:34:07 < dongs> like a ghetto nas or osmeshit 2016-08-16T18:35:06 < aandrew> most shit from iogear is ghetto 2016-08-16T18:35:23 < dongs> japs had a usb->ethernet thing 2016-08-16T18:35:29 < dongs> it needed a driver on the client 2016-08-16T18:35:35 < dongs> became a virtual USB port or someshit 2016-08-16T18:36:51 < dongs> k bed, sweet dreams carabia 2016-08-16T18:36:54 < gxti> looks like there's some chibios crap in tmk now 2016-08-16T18:36:58 < gxti> poor choice 2016-08-16T18:37:22 < aandrew> yeah there are some softwaare tools that do that over tcp/ip too 2016-08-16T18:37:36 < aandrew> works fine as long as the USB device/driver don't have tight timing requirements 2016-08-16T18:37:54 < aandrew> whcih is I think why it's usually only useful for USB printers and drives 2016-08-16T18:41:01 < zyp> should be useful for any sort of bulk device really 2016-08-16T18:41:18 < zyp> since the very definition of bulk is «best effort» 2016-08-16T18:41:26 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T18:41:40 < aandrew> yes but many, many drivers have idiotic short timeouts 2016-08-16T18:42:29 < zyp> really? most timeouts I've seen have been on the order of a second or more 2016-08-16T18:43:26 < aandrew> yep 2016-08-16T18:43:43 < aandrew> at least that's been my experience 2016-08-16T18:44:11 < zyp> sounds weird 2016-08-16T18:44:33 < zyp> and if it's a custom driver on host, timeouts should be relative to the remote controller really 2016-08-16T18:45:15 < zyp> I mean, you wouldn't do your own timeout and abortion, you'd submit an URB with the desired timeout 2016-08-16T18:45:38 < zyp> which basically says to the host controller «hey, try this transfer for me and give up after this amount of time» 2016-08-16T18:48:42 < aandrew> I agree 2016-08-16T18:49:10 < aandrew> it is also possible that the earlier software I was using to do this was just shit 2016-08-16T18:49:18 < aandrew> actually that is probably the more likely explanation 2016-08-16T18:49:19 < zyp> that sounds more likely 2016-08-16T18:51:49 < Ecco> Holyshit 2016-08-16T18:51:50 < Ecco> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aB1yB0O_460sv.mp4 2016-08-16T18:52:21 < Ecco> Is it really that bad? 2016-08-16T18:52:39 < zyp> grab a battery and try? 2016-08-16T18:53:16 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-16T18:53:28 < ReadError> ive never got them to shoot like that 2016-08-16T18:53:36 < englishman> Ecco: no 2016-08-16T18:53:38 < ReadError> lots of smoke and a little fire is easy though 2016-08-16T18:53:50 < englishman> i tried hammering nails into em, shooting em, smashing them with a hammer 2016-08-16T18:53:54 < englishman> got nothing but a little smoke 2016-08-16T18:54:00 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-16T18:54:07 < Ecco> I definitely have to try it 2016-08-16T18:54:08 < englishman> meanwhile, a pal presses the wrong button on his charger, and the whole fucking thing explodes 2016-08-16T18:54:11 < englishman> its just luck 2016-08-16T18:54:14 < Ecco> Maybe it's worse if there are many bigger elements? 2016-08-16T18:54:28 < BrainDamage> you want to overcharge it a bit first 2016-08-16T18:54:31 < ReadError> or when you try to blow one up on purpose with a charger 2016-08-16T18:54:34 < ReadError> and it wont blow up 2016-08-16T18:54:41 < ReadError> just how things work 2016-08-16T18:54:42 < zyp> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjkW3KUz5uo <- this battery took quite a beating 2016-08-16T18:54:47 < englishman> ReadError: the carabia nick seems familiar 2016-08-16T18:54:59 < englishman> yeah you can never make lipos explode on purpose 2016-08-16T18:55:09 < ReadError> englishman from where 2016-08-16T18:55:15 < englishman> it has to be when you least expect it and there are other flammable sources nearby 2016-08-16T18:55:16 < englishman> ReadError: i dono 2016-08-16T18:55:17 < aandrew> englishman: charged or discharged? 2016-08-16T18:55:21 < englishman> carged 2016-08-16T18:56:33 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOvhpqgjTAU 2016-08-16T18:57:32 < ReadError> yea shooting them is never cool 2016-08-16T18:57:44 < ReadError> we threw a tomahawk into one 2016-08-16T18:57:47 < ReadError> that was alright 2016-08-16T18:57:48 < englishman> lol 2016-08-16T18:58:36 < aandrew> heh 2016-08-16T19:00:55 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T19:09:47 < ReadError> englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o74BnFSr8g 2016-08-16T19:09:54 < ReadError> was on my youtube homepage lol 2016-08-16T19:13:36 < Tectu> stop doing drugs 2016-08-16T19:13:53 < upgrdman> http://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/japanese-pole-vaulters-olympic-dream-crushed-by-his-own-penis/news-story/a7e70dcbd46300b7ab0f4fef16f2fbef 2016-08-16T19:14:47 < englishman> and now it's on my desktop 2016-08-16T19:15:28 < ReadError> the little guy stretched out by the timestamp lol 2016-08-16T19:16:57 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T19:18:31 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d5d_1471347632 2016-08-16T19:18:34 < Laurenceb> found crt 2016-08-16T19:21:23 < Tectu> can you guys please stop pasting crap ALL the time? 2016-08-16T19:22:21 < ReadError> everyone likes kittens though ;( 2016-08-16T19:22:39 < ReadError> never had I heard someone say "kittens are disgusting horrible things" 2016-08-16T19:25:54 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mALNyHFqw14 2016-08-16T19:28:16 < englishman> Tectu: if you haven't noticed, its just Laurenceb 2016-08-16T19:28:41 < englishman> Kittens are just as on topic as rammstein. 2016-08-16T19:32:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T19:33:20 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-16T19:41:20 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [] 2016-08-16T19:41:49 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T19:45:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.29] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T19:46:51 < Laurenceb> is there a hardware integration manual for µSd cards anywhere? 2016-08-16T19:48:31 < Steffanx> the sd organization has this right? 2016-08-16T19:49:21 < Laurenceb> yeah but its not free download? 2016-08-16T19:49:28 -!- carabia [~carabia@unaffiliated/carabia] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-16T19:50:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:f8bb:5c4:d7ec:234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T19:54:55 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKeEx6RVVWZlZHRHM/view?usp=sharing 2016-08-16T20:01:40 < karlp> Laurenceb: it's part of the "not free" portion of the sd spec unfortunately. 2016-08-16T20:01:47 < Laurenceb> ah 2016-08-16T20:01:58 < Laurenceb> I'll stick to 10µF 2016-08-16T20:02:41 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-16T20:05:56 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T20:08:43 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.138.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-16T20:11:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.5.97] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T20:19:08 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0acdad.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T20:27:08 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-16T20:28:59 < englishman> http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/401d2b156a286d42b4d6bad9aa2970e8 2016-08-16T20:29:03 < englishman> disqualified due to dongs 2016-08-16T20:30:43 < Steffanx> old 2016-08-16T20:31:37 < englishman> sorry steffan 2016-08-16T20:31:47 < englishman> i have little content due to working entirely with 8butt shit 2016-08-16T20:32:12 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-16T20:32:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.5.97] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-16T20:34:27 < karlp> Laurenceb: best sources I found were TI hardware dev guides for their SoCs.. 2016-08-16T20:34:37 < karlp> they sometimes have some useful "excerpts" from the spec included. 2016-08-16T20:34:47 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-08-16T20:35:17 < upgrdman> does windows expose a way to *underclock* the cpu? i want to see if some of my code will perform decently on, say 1GHz instead of the 4GHz i actually have. 2016-08-16T20:35:24 < karlp> and copying things like ref schematics for microchip usb sd card reader parts and stuff 2016-08-16T20:35:54 < kakimir> upgrdman: maximum clock in power settings? 2016-08-16T20:37:09 < kakimir> see also park manager 2016-08-16T20:37:28 < kakimir> it's actually percentage not clock 2016-08-16T20:38:28 < upgrdman> hmm dont see that. win10 if it makes a diff 2016-08-16T20:38:38 < upgrdman> and wuts park mgr 2016-08-16T20:39:03 < kakimir> go in advanced 2016-08-16T20:39:20 < kakimir> where is all pci power savings and stuff 2016-08-16T20:39:41 < kakimir> hard drive spindown delay etc 2016-08-16T20:40:13 < kakimir> https://bitsum.com/parkcontrol/ idk. 2016-08-16T20:40:57 < kakimir> this one is for keeping cores from going to sleep 2016-08-16T20:41:30 < Steffanx> im not sure, but i believe i can do this with my mb, by using the tools provided by msi. 2016-08-16T20:42:30 < upgrdman> ya i think i can use my mobo tools too, from Anus, but it looks like such gamer fag shit. was hoping for some nice little control panel thing :) 2016-08-16T20:43:08 < upgrdman> which reminds me, anyone know of a nice performance monitor app? cpu/memory/temps/rpms/gpu/etc ? 2016-08-16T20:43:17 < upgrdman> task manager is ok but not too detailed 2016-08-16T20:43:57 < Steffanx> istat menu. but mac only :P 2016-08-16T20:44:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.214] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T20:44:20 < scummos> the interesting question is what the metrics even mean 2016-08-16T20:44:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T20:44:33 < zyp> upgrdman, just throw your computer in the oven, then thermal throttling will underclock your cpu for you 2016-08-16T20:44:36 < scummos> define "CPU usage" 2016-08-16T20:44:55 < upgrdman> zyp, sound advise 2016-08-16T20:45:17 < upgrdman> scummos, well like how much power is available for other shit 2016-08-16T20:53:03 < aandrew> what do you need from the non-free part of the SD spec? IIRC it's only giving you hte faster access modes 2016-08-16T20:53:08 < aandrew> (I've never used any of them) 2016-08-16T21:10:16 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.5.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-16T21:12:34 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has left ##stm32 ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 2016-08-16T21:15:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-16T21:16:02 < Rob235> which layout is better? http://imgur.com/a/zYWLG 2016-08-16T21:17:00 < Steffanx> bottom. 2016-08-16T21:18:17 < Steffanx> but what is it? 2016-08-16T21:21:15 < Fleck> his IR remote, no? :D 2016-08-16T21:22:30 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T21:22:38 < zyp> they both look stupid, why is it short and wide, not long and slim? 2016-08-16T21:23:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.86] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T21:23:50 < zyp> something like 2x5 would be better, then you could start with power upper left, then 1-5 in order, then use lower two left for ch and lower two right for vol 2016-08-16T21:25:02 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-28-18.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T21:25:03 < zyp> of the two layouts presented, I'm inclined to say top 2016-08-16T21:25:17 < zyp> bottom has better up/down layout, but the numbers are stupidly positioned 2016-08-16T21:27:26 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-187-197.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-16T21:41:02 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKbU9hR2kxYUU5V1k/view?usp=sharing 2016-08-16T21:41:13 < kakimir> weight scale part dones 2016-08-16T21:41:34 < kakimir> I hope 78l05 + ld1117 combo is not too noisy 2016-08-16T21:42:19 < aandrew> what's the range on the scale? 2016-08-16T21:43:30 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T21:43:45 < kakimir> range as? 2016-08-16T21:43:52 < kakimir> weight difference range? 2016-08-16T21:44:36 < kakimir> I had some ballpark figures 2016-08-16T21:44:39 < kakimir> no idea 2016-08-16T21:44:40 < aandrew> yeah from what to what and witih what resolution (ballpark) 2016-08-16T21:45:03 < kakimir> I have 2x 20kg strain gauges 2016-08-16T21:45:16 < kakimir> are connected to 4:1 momentum arms 2016-08-16T21:45:27 < kakimir> hx711 is 24bit 2016-08-16T21:47:05 < Rob235> horizontal is better for where I'm putting it 2016-08-16T21:48:32 < kakimir> aandrew: so it equals that maximum without counterweights is 160kg 2016-08-16T21:48:55 < kakimir> but I will utilize counterweights in momentum arms to bring it to 200kg 2016-08-16T21:49:11 < kakimir> I don't even know how much my oven weights 2016-08-16T21:49:24 < aandrew> kakimir: hm, about right to meaasure my balls 2016-08-16T21:49:43 < kakimir> you are welcome to stuff your balls inside my oven 2016-08-16T21:50:07 < aandrew> lol 2016-08-16T21:50:19 < aandrew> why are you weighing an oven? 2016-08-16T21:50:24 < aandrew> is this for metalcasting or something? 2016-08-16T21:50:49 < Sync> kakimir: do you need some 40a ssrs? 2016-08-16T21:50:52 < kakimir> it's doing shit for fun 2016-08-16T21:51:19 < kakimir> ssrs as? 2016-08-16T21:52:11 < kakimir> aandrew: fine tuning of pid controller maybe and hmm.. time estimates 2016-08-16T21:55:06 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-28-18.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-16T21:55:08 < aandrew> kakimir: what are you doing that changes weight based on cook time? 2016-08-16T21:55:10 < upgrdman> lol http://imgur.com/a/XWK3M 2016-08-16T21:57:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-97-5-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T21:57:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-97-5-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-16T21:58:50 < Tectu> upgrdman, https://git.ugfx.io/uGFX/uGFX/src/master/src/gdisp/gdisp.c#L1470 2016-08-16T21:58:52 < Tectu> scroll down for more fun 2016-08-16T21:59:20 < upgrdman> :D 2016-08-16T21:59:34 < Rob235> it's too much fun sitting here and browsing ebay for 100x things for a few dollars including shipping 2016-08-16T22:00:11 < upgrdman> also, 3500 lines in one file? i thought i was bad at ~1000 lines occassionally 2016-08-16T22:00:49 < Tectu> upgrdman, how would you split them up? those are all the basic drawing functions. if you split them up by group or whatever you end up with 15 files 2016-08-16T22:01:30 < upgrdman> i know, im not saying they should be split 2016-08-16T22:01:38 < upgrdman> i just feel so dirty when i get to >1k/file 2016-08-16T22:01:54 < Tectu> agrede 2016-08-16T22:01:57 < Tectu> agreed* 2016-08-16T22:02:04 < upgrdman> but i do love my CrazyOutline view in Eclipse 2016-08-16T22:02:17 < Tectu> useless feature #5 2016-08-16T22:03:19 < upgrdman> elixpad huh 2016-08-16T22:03:22 < Steffanx> better no change comment style the codes all the time Tectu. 2016-08-16T22:03:23 < upgrdman> never heard of that one before 2016-08-16T22:03:35 < Steffanx> or tell mr andrew to stick to your style. 2016-08-16T22:03:41 < Tectu> Steffanx, tried that many times :p 2016-08-16T22:05:25 < Steffanx> " // The following test is unneeded because we are guaranteed to have draw pixel if we don't have streaming" love that. WHY is it there? 2016-08-16T22:05:45 < qyx> just a quick check, F3 doesn't need any 22R or 1K5 resistors, does it? 2016-08-16T22:06:57 < Steffanx> iirc the f3 disco has it. both of them 2016-08-16T22:07:16 < Steffanx> but the discovery might not be the best reference. 2016-08-16T22:07:57 < qyx> nah 2016-08-16T22:08:43 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T22:14:10 < qyx> from the stm32f303 datasheet, Table 67. USB: Full-speed electrical characteristics 2016-08-16T22:14:15 < qyx> No external termination series resistors are required on USB_DP (D+) and USB_DM (D-), the matching impedance is 2016-08-16T22:14:19 < qyx> already included in the embedded driver. 2016-08-16T22:15:04 < zyp> still needs the 1k5, no? 2016-08-16T22:15:20 < zyp> I put both on my f3 boards 2016-08-16T22:16:08 < qyx> don't know about the 1K5, I haven't find anythng regarding it yet 2016-08-16T22:16:15 < Steffanx> The L1 was supposed to have it internally, but it was wrong. 2016-08-16T22:16:23 < Steffanx> was f3 invented after that? 2016-08-16T22:19:55 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-16T22:20:52 < zyp> yeah, I think so 2016-08-16T22:21:38 < zyp> IIRC it went F1, F2, F4, L1, F3, F0, L0, F7/L4 2016-08-16T22:21:53 < zyp> and meanwhile a bunch of new variants in some families 2016-08-16T22:23:20 < qyx> was F3 before F0? 2016-08-16T22:23:28 < qyx> seems like the 1K5 is required 2016-08-16T22:30:35 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T22:30:35 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-16T22:30:35 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T22:31:43 < upgrdman> RMS, lol https://i.reddituploads.com/42556b20ec1040a1b88f2e5cedf39570?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=2d66063584008516cdb3f6219b0aaf4a 2016-08-16T22:38:24 < zyp> qyx, yes 2016-08-16T22:38:32 < zyp> and yes wrt. 1k5 too 2016-08-16T22:39:26 < zyp> just hook it to a spare gpio, that way it goes floting when chip is in reset giving it sane behavior wrt debugging, and the ability to soft-detach 2016-08-16T22:39:46 -!- bartekww [~bartekww@2a03:b0c0:3:d0::3e:8001] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-16T22:39:47 < zyp> unless you want to use rom bootloader, because it wouldn't know how to enable it 2016-08-16T22:40:16 < zyp> but IMO it's better to just do your own bootloader if you need that 2016-08-16T22:41:45 < zyp> if you do want to use the bootloader, you could use the emeb-trick with a pfet and a pulldown 2016-08-16T22:42:01 < zyp> ref. his f3 breakout 2016-08-16T22:42:25 < emeb> works great 2016-08-16T22:43:23 < emeb> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/embedded/stm32f303breakout/stm32fx03_breakout.pdf 2016-08-16T22:43:28 < zyp> yeah, but it's a bit messier to work with, since the host doesn't automatically see a detach when you reset the chip 2016-08-16T22:44:10 < emeb> yep - gotta explicitly poke it. 2016-08-16T22:44:56 < zyp> actually, F0 might have been before F3, but USB-capable F0 were not 2016-08-16T22:45:15 < zyp> which is why F0 got USBv2, F3 got USBv1 2016-08-16T22:45:41 < zyp> v2 got the internal 1.5k fixed properly 2016-08-16T22:45:52 < emeb> yes, that's a feature. 2016-08-16T22:45:59 < zyp> also crystalless usb 2016-08-16T22:46:04 < emeb> and they don't need the 22 ohm resistors 2016-08-16T22:46:10 < zyp> but I'm not sure if that needs anything special from the USB core 2016-08-16T22:46:33 < emeb> the xtal-less syncs to the SOF signal 2016-08-16T22:46:39 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-16T22:46:44 < zyp> as I understand it, it's just a separate clock calibration thing that can sync to the SOF output from the USB core 2016-08-16T22:47:01 < zyp> and yeah 2016-08-16T22:47:05 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T22:47:11 < zyp> I'm writing code to enable that tomorrow or something 2016-08-16T22:47:19 < zyp> been dragging my feet on that for a few days 2016-08-16T22:47:50 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-16T22:47:51 < zyp> need to finish up the L0 stuff because I'm planning to ship out the first boards I've sold before the weekend 2016-08-16T22:48:45 < emeb> I've got some f042 code that runs w/o xtal. works fine. easy to do. 2016-08-16T22:49:14 < zyp> I've got a bunch of l052 code too, runs fine but clock calibration isn't enabled yet 2016-08-16T22:50:36 < zyp> a guy I know were testing one of my protos last year, ran fine for tens of hours, then got thrown off the usb bus 2016-08-16T22:50:49 < zyp> I suspect temperature variations in the environment 2016-08-16T22:51:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-16T22:55:23 < emeb> wonder if it needs to periodically recalibrate? 2016-08-16T22:57:10 < zyp> it's probably some phase feedback thing 2016-08-16T22:57:57 < zyp> maybe you could call it a PLL 2016-08-16T22:59:59 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-etqyjsaiyffwgtei] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-16T23:06:13 < emeb> looks like the CRS which trims the HSI48 to track SOF has some status bits you could monitor to see what happens if things break down. 2016-08-16T23:06:39 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-16T23:22:43 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-16T23:24:05 < karlp> hrm, it's certainly billed as not needing xtal, so it should just be special bits to tweak maybe 2016-08-16T23:30:36 < karlp> just call "crs_autotrim_usb_enable()" ;) 2016-08-16T23:31:33 < karlp> https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/blob/master/lib/stm32/common/crs_common_all.c#L38 2016-08-16T23:32:02 < karlp> maybe you only enabled the CFGR sync flag? 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2016-08-17T00:05:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T00:08:20 < PeterM> does anyone know if there are like 50v rated versions of these https://www.fairchildsemi.com/datasheets/FD/FDMF6823C.pdf? 2016-08-17T00:11:57 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-17T00:15:20 < englishman> qyx: 1.5k is needed for USB dfu ROM. Iirc this is shown in an2606 2016-08-17T00:15:38 < englishman> ah zyp said 2016-08-17T00:18:43 < zyp> karlp, I'm not enabling anything yet 2016-08-17T00:19:11 < zyp> but it's on my schedule for tomorrow unless I somehow manage to waste away all day like today 2016-08-17T00:19:47 < kakimir> fukken winter 2016-08-17T00:24:31 < Steffanx> I know what you mean fleck. We have it at work but no clue what the name of that stuff is or were to buy. 2016-08-17T00:24:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-234.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T00:25:44 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zabptcsdkyrfvpmp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T00:26:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T00:26:11 < Steffannn> *where 2016-08-17T00:29:08 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-17T00:30:36 < PeterM> Fleck, its called sil-pad 2016-08-17T00:30:44 < PeterM> i dunno whjere you'd get it in a sheet though 2016-08-17T00:31:23 < PeterM> i know most distributors sell it pre-cut etc 2016-08-17T00:32:09 < englishman> PeterM: I haven't seen any of those @50v with driver built in. That's a pretty neat module tho. 2016-08-17T00:33:10 < PeterM> yeah, i like em for 12v stuff - they're cheap as chips and theres very little fuckign around 2016-08-17T00:34:02 < PeterM> the most i saw was a AOSMD one that could take like 25v nominal(so like 35v on hte bootstrap pin) 2016-08-17T00:35:37 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T00:37:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-234.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-17T00:38:31 < Fleck> ok thanks Steffanx 2016-08-17T00:45:18 < kakimir> if airplane sheds of ice cover from wings doesn't it imply that big chucks of ice will fall all way to ground? 2016-08-17T00:45:23 < kakimir> *off 2016-08-17T00:47:56 < zyp> well, unless they break up or melt on the way 2016-08-17T00:49:42 < zyp> guessing it might be too thin to stay in one piece once it doesn't have any support 2016-08-17T00:50:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-17T00:51:54 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-17T00:52:06 < Laurenceb__> guy near me got hit by falling ice from a plane 2016-08-17T00:52:07 < c4017_> Fleck, Available in pads, sheets, rolls http://www.digikey.ca/product-search/en/fans-thermal-management/thermal-pads-sheets/1179751 2016-08-17T00:52:19 < Laurenceb__> tried to sue the airline.. I forgot what happened in the end 2016-08-17T00:53:03 * Laurenceb__ looks it up 2016-08-17T00:53:08 < Laurenceb__> ah out of court settlement 2016-08-17T00:55:23 < jadew> Laurenceb__, was it this guy? https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8d/c9/b8/8dc9b83443567d4eca20195b3645a7de.jpg 2016-08-17T00:55:57 < Laurenceb__> wut 2016-08-17T00:56:44 < Fleck> c4017_: and wich one do I need? 2016-08-17T00:56:56 < Laurenceb__> wonder how often this happens 2016-08-17T00:57:15 < Laurenceb__> apparently there was a CAA investigation and they traced the plane and found deicing faults 2016-08-17T00:58:46 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T00:58:46 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T00:59:24 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-17T00:59:48 -!- c4017__ is now known as c4017 2016-08-17T01:00:28 < c4017> Fleck, I've bought this one before http://www.digikey.ca/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&itemSeq=203804886&uq=636069634549802938 2016-08-17T01:01:20 < jadew> I wonder why companies price evaluation boards so high 2016-08-17T01:01:27 < jadew> higher than it's reasonable 2016-08-17T01:01:30 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-17T01:01:37 < jadew> it's stupid 2016-08-17T01:02:29 < Fleck> for example jadew? 2016-08-17T01:03:15 < jadew> Fleck, looking at a MMIC amplifier 2016-08-17T01:03:16 < Fleck> c4017: link gives me search results... 4milj. 2016-08-17T01:03:29 < jadew> the part costs $1.5 in 1 pcs 2016-08-17T01:03:29 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:03:33 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:03:37 < jadew> the evaluation board is 79 2016-08-17T01:03:52 < jadew> and it's a 2x2cm thing 2016-08-17T01:04:12 < jadew> might have an aluminium case too, but that can't be $70 2016-08-17T01:04:45 < jadew> especially since they make those cases in 10's of thousands 2016-08-17T01:05:00 < c4017> Fleck, hoiw about http://www.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&itemSeq=203804886&uq=636069634549802938 2016-08-17T01:05:15 < Fleck> 5milj 2016-08-17T01:05:19 < Fleck> results 2016-08-17T01:05:34 < c4017> digikey can never handle country codes... 2016-08-17T01:05:51 < c4017> part number 1168-1360-ND 2016-08-17T01:09:06 < Fleck> that red thing? and it transfers heat well and does not conduct? 2016-08-17T01:13:53 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:16:22 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:16:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:16:39 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-17T01:17:35 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-17T01:18:02 < Fleck> c4017__: that red thing? and it transfers heat well and does not conduct? 2016-08-17T01:19:05 < c4017__> the red part is just a plastic cover 2016-08-17T01:19:17 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-17T01:19:37 < c4017__> underneath it's like any other thermal transfer pad 2016-08-17T01:20:24 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:21:06 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:29:43 < jadew> ffs... 50 eur delivery 2016-08-17T01:31:57 < Fleck> ;pp 2016-08-17T01:33:09 < jadew> at this point they're being jerks already, 200 euro before VAT for $15 parts 2016-08-17T01:36:09 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-17T01:43:34 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:51:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.64.84] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T01:55:24 -!- c4017 [~c4017@d173-180-78-104.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-17T01:55:55 -!- c4017__ is now known as c4017 2016-08-17T02:11:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-17T02:18:38 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T02:22:14 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-17T02:23:51 -!- bugzc [~1@CPE00222ddfe208-CM00222ddfe205.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T02:23:54 -!- bugzc [~1@CPE00222ddfe208-CM00222ddfe205.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-17T02:23:54 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T02:42:54 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-17T03:07:35 < Laurenceb__> I prefer adventures of Wojack and Pepe 2016-08-17T03:17:15 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T03:22:29 -!- Steffannn [uid97872@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zabptcsdkyrfvpmp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-17T03:31:23 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-17T03:34:41 < jadew> I just had an idea on how to fix a project that isn't performing properly and I realized I had this idea way before I started working on this revision of the board, but by the time I started working on it I did it the wrong way 2016-08-17T03:36:13 < jadew> I almost gave up on it, but now that I had this idea, I think there's still hope for it. Now I'm buying the ICs I fried when testing it 2016-08-17T03:36:26 < jadew> ~$15 a pop 2016-08-17T03:36:58 < jadew> can't tell you what it is until it's ready 2016-08-17T03:37:07 < jadew> I'm trying to make something I can sell 2016-08-17T03:37:21 < jadew> duino 2016-08-17T03:37:27 < jadew> lol, I'm kidding 2016-08-17T03:39:23 < jadew> so... $250 on two evaluation boards to figure out if it's the components or my layout and another $40 to replace two freaking ICs 2016-08-17T03:39:47 < jadew> I didn't have clamping on the output of an opamp and the input was floating 2016-08-17T03:40:01 < jadew> ended up applying 9V on a 3.3 V input 2016-08-17T03:41:18 < jadew> no money left from the hobby? 2016-08-17T03:42:25 < jadew> after I get the evaluation boards I'll be able to tell if I need to switch to some expensive dielectric or if I can keep using FR-4 2016-08-17T03:42:55 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-17T03:43:07 < jadew> at least I'm trying, it didn't go that great so far 2016-08-17T03:44:29 < jadew> crt, yeah, but the problem is I don't have the S parameters for some of the parts 2016-08-17T03:44:34 < jadew> (for which I got evaluation boards) 2016-08-17T03:44:48 < jadew> and I'm not sure if the crappy response is because of the dielectric or the part 2016-08-17T03:46:42 < jadew> what task? 2016-08-17T03:46:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:f8bb:5c4:d7ec:234] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-17T03:48:49 < jadew> I want to repair something too, but I don't have enough energy to spend more than a couple of hours on it 2016-08-17T03:49:12 < jadew> and my son keeps pointing out that we have a "a big radio that's broken" on the floor 2016-08-17T03:50:47 < jadew> that looks nice 2016-08-17T03:51:33 < jadew> good thing I'm not into audio stuff too 2016-08-17T03:52:59 < jadew> are most vinyl records stereo? 2016-08-17T03:54:48 < jadew> you know I was thinking about this repair business, doesn't it make more sense to just buy broken stuff and then sell them? 2016-08-17T03:54:59 < jadew> wouldn't your margin be bigger? 2016-08-17T03:56:31 < jadew> (especially when it comes to audio stuff) 2016-08-17T03:58:01 < jadew> I have a friend who has a repair shop for PCs and I people give him broken laptops almost for free 2016-08-17T04:00:43 < jadew> I see 2016-08-17T04:05:58 < jadew> tbh, when I try to do that it always seems like I got a bad deal, but I thought that only happens with the stuff I'm interested in 2016-08-17T04:07:33 < jadew> now I feel like opening this radio up 2016-08-17T04:07:44 < jadew> I bet it was worked on and it's a total bust 2016-08-17T04:12:38 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-8.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T04:12:57 < timemob> got my first real ignore on free cancer today 2016-08-17T04:13:32 < timemob> dude wanted industrial USB 3 camera on rageberrypi 2016-08-17T04:13:56 < timemob> told him it wasn't gonna work 2016-08-17T04:15:09 < timemob> then he asked if I could manipulate lunix distros and code C and I told him it was still not found l going to work 2016-08-17T04:15:31 < timemob> err still not going to work 2016-08-17T04:15:58 < timemob> then he muted me :( 2016-08-17T04:17:35 < timemob> lost my chance to make $5 on freecancer, now my family will starve 2016-08-17T04:17:39 < timemob> :( 2016-08-17T04:19:06 < timemob> the more sma the higher the pay 2016-08-17T04:19:50 < jadew> the more loopy the connection, the higher the pay 2016-08-17T04:20:31 < jadew> my guess is that she shouldn't be hired at all 2016-08-17T04:20:52 < jadew> not doing things which involve SMA connectors anyway 2016-08-17T04:21:04 < timemob> but Jerry Ellsworth 2016-08-17T04:21:37 < jadew> I'm sure she'd know not to knot coax cable 2016-08-17T04:22:30 < jadew> I've soldered CAT-5 cable tho 2016-08-17T04:22:43 < jadew> works fine even at 1 Gbps 2016-08-17T04:23:24 < jadew> I've done that before I knew what a diferential pair was but I'm still using that cable 2016-08-17T04:24:21 < jadew> do you realize how much training she would need? 2016-08-17T04:24:37 < jadew> that's basic stuff 2016-08-17T04:25:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T04:34:28 < ReadError> any ideas for things to add to a pcb rework holder? 2016-08-17T04:34:40 < timemob> crt is ok I'd be more worried about ohsix 2016-08-17T04:34:42 < ReadError> i cant find any I like so figured maker one 2016-08-17T04:35:04 < jadew> ReadError, a place to put parts in 2016-08-17T04:35:34 < jadew> something round holes, so you can get them out easily with your finger 2016-08-17T04:35:52 < ReadError> yea im doing notched 'post' and then a v-groove 2016-08-17T04:36:01 < ReadError> to mount either way 2016-08-17T04:37:10 < upgrdman> damn it. got new batteries for my old UPS. fucker wont even turn on. 2016-08-17T04:37:31 < upgrdman> no fuse either, just a pushbutton breaker. pushing it does nothing :/ 2016-08-17T04:38:26 < timemob> is it plugged in 2016-08-17T04:38:34 < upgrdman> yes you dumb nig 2016-08-17T04:55:50 < upgrdman> no some china middleman in cali. from amazon 2016-08-17T04:56:01 < upgrdman> batteries arent the problem tho 2016-08-17T04:56:09 < upgrdman> the ups just wont even power on 2016-08-17T04:56:16 < upgrdman> with or without batteries 2016-08-17T05:04:50 < aandrew> R2COM: I have used $6000 active probes and you literally do solder them to the point on the board you want to measure 2016-08-17T05:04:56 < aandrew> but I suspect that's not what you mean :-) 2016-08-17T05:06:45 < aandrew> http://teledynelecroy.com/probes/probeseries.aspx?mseries=423 2016-08-17T05:07:22 < aandrew> balls, it looks like altium vault doesn't have microfit 3.0 connectors, gonna have to make a few footprints 2016-08-17T05:08:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.64.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-17T05:08:55 < timemob> wut, that's just 3mm pitch power shit 2016-08-17T05:09:28 < timemob> put 2 pads down, throw on molex 3d model and draw outline 2016-08-17T05:10:00 < timemob> lazy 2016-08-17T05:10:45 < timemob> are you making buttcoin mining card 2016-08-17T05:11:05 < ReadError> my altium vault is super old and useless 2016-08-17T05:11:10 < ReadError> or libraries 2016-08-17T05:11:17 < ReadError> hard out here for a pimp 2016-08-17T05:19:13 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-17T05:26:40 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T05:29:05 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jynhxzjxccmtrsbf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T05:31:44 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T05:32:54 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-17T05:32:54 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-08-17T05:37:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-17T05:42:45 < jadew> R2COM, did you get worms reloaded yet? 2016-08-17T05:44:48 < jadew> a couple of years 2016-08-17T05:57:27 < Thorn__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HH9IiHMD2M 2016-08-17T06:12:24 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T06:13:38 < upgrdman> gtx1080 space heater master race reporting in 2016-08-17T06:16:10 < jadew> you got the gtx1080? 2016-08-17T06:18:14 < jadew> that's the new one, right? 2016-08-17T06:18:33 < upgrdman> ya 2016-08-17T06:18:41 < upgrdman> its fun gaming at 4k 2016-08-17T06:18:55 < upgrdman> now if they just had 40k120 monitors, i'd be set :/ 2016-08-17T06:19:08 < upgrdman> but 4k60 is "good enough" i guess 2016-08-17T06:20:44 < upgrdman> also, enjoying the quirks of GPU-accelerated graphics in java. looks perfect with intel iris pro, but flickers when dragging the window on this gtx1080. time to read some more javadoc shitz 2016-08-17T06:30:11 < ReadError> i got 2 4k's i need to hook up 2016-08-17T06:30:18 < ReadError> waiting on the doublestack stand tho 2016-08-17T06:31:37 < upgrdman> oh shit that reminds me. i can now use my 4k tv at 60hz. this gtx1080 has hdmi2.0 output 2016-08-17T06:31:50 < upgrdman> time in game on 55" 4k ips 2016-08-17T06:32:15 < upgrdman> indeed 2016-08-17T06:36:32 < timemob> any card with actual hdmi socket on it = trash 2016-08-17T06:36:50 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-17T06:37:05 < upgrdman> gtx1080 founders editions even have dmi 2016-08-17T06:37:19 < upgrdman> 3x dp1.4, 1x hdmi2.0b, 1x dvi 2016-08-17T06:37:28 < timemob> aids 2016-08-17T06:37:53 < timemob> dvi needs to die so badly 2016-08-17T06:38:39 < upgrdman> i was surprised to see it on the gtx1080, but whatevs 2016-08-17T06:40:42 < upgrdman> i gotta say those, fucking china is so weird wrt PCs 2016-08-17T06:41:01 < upgrdman> like even the newer i7 workstations... came with ps2 mouse/kbd, vga monitor 2016-08-17T06:41:04 < upgrdman> like WHY 2016-08-17T06:41:35 < timemob> ya VGA is all over there 2016-08-17T06:41:39 < upgrdman> and i dont mean like they just had those ports. they USED them. 2016-08-17T06:41:50 < timemob> auto adjust bro 2016-08-17T06:44:16 -!- tim3mob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T06:49:06 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-8.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-17T06:53:21 < ReadError> damn the DRC driver bug wasnt fixed in 16.1.10 2016-08-17T06:53:58 < ReadError> Yea, you know exactly what im going to tell you to go do 2016-08-17T06:55:11 < ReadError> this time it doesnt BSOD tho so thats a positive 2016-08-17T07:05:15 < jadew> as opposed to string telephone? 2016-08-17T07:06:04 < jadew> that stuff was amazing, worked over great distances 2016-08-17T07:08:25 < jadew> I'm not good at guessing distances, but I had one with someone from the building across 2016-08-17T07:08:37 < jadew> I think it was at least 50 meters 2016-08-17T07:19:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T07:21:58 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-17T07:44:47 < dongs> looks like a behringer 2016-08-17T08:13:23 < ReadError> I like those sliders that move themselves 2016-08-17T08:17:51 < dongs> oh, mackie branded dumb-amp 2016-08-17T08:18:03 < dongs> wait they're all custom logo'd 2016-08-17T08:22:06 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-10.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T08:24:11 -!- t1m3mob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T08:24:26 -!- tim3mob [~dongs@l212168.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-17T08:26:29 -!- timemob [~dongs@g1-27-253-251-10.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-17T08:27:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Like it? Dont you like hardcore with russians (no hud and easy teamkills)? 2016-08-17T10:54:37 -!- elektrinis [~cisrcuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T11:03:34 < PeterM> no hud, easy team kills, hardcore with russians sounds like something to do with a theatre 2016-08-17T11:04:51 < ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-1U-Server-X9SCI-LN4F-Barebones-Add-Your-CPU-Memory-Hard-Drives/142086925207 so cheapish 2016-08-17T11:05:54 < PeterM> ReadError, thats because its trash 2016-08-17T11:06:22 < ReadError> eh i got 2 kits of cpu and memory sitting idle 2016-08-17T11:07:00 < ReadError> nice thing with IMPI can keep them on reserve and have them turned up if needed 2016-08-17T11:09:45 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T11:33:29 < Ecco> Damn 2016-08-17T11:33:38 < Ecco> I'm having a hard time figuring out PIN1 on an STM32 QFP64 2016-08-17T11:33:51 < Ecco> there are two markings 2016-08-17T11:33:57 < Ecco> one engraved in the packaging, without ink 2016-08-17T11:34:00 < jpa-> datasheet should have drawing which also tells text orientation 2016-08-17T11:34:01 < Ecco> and one printed 2016-08-17T11:34:14 < jpa-> one of them is mold release mark 2016-08-17T11:34:31 < Ecco> Well, it does state the text for UFQFN48 2016-08-17T11:34:35 < Ecco> but not for LQFP64 2016-08-17T11:34:44 < Ecco> oh sorry 2016-08-17T11:34:45 < Ecco> it does 2016-08-17T11:34:46 < Ecco> thanks 2016-08-17T11:34:49 < jpa-> the mold release mark is typically very shallow, flat bottom and shiny 2016-08-17T11:34:54 < Ecco> thanks 2016-08-17T11:34:59 < Ecco> indeed 2016-08-17T11:35:10 < Ecco> turns out that mark is the pin1 identifier 2016-08-17T11:35:19 < jpa-> whereas the real dot is curvy bottom or printed 2016-08-17T11:37:39 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-17T11:38:01 -!- Palsson_ [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T11:44:03 < Ecco> allright 2016-08-17T11:44:05 < Ecco> thanks :) 2016-08-17T11:45:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-17T11:46:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.14] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T11:55:43 < dongs> hm 2016-08-17T11:55:46 < dongs> had meeting with some st fags 2016-08-17T11:55:54 < dongs> apparently L15x series is more or less nrnd 2016-08-17T11:55:56 < dongs> :( 2016-08-17T11:55:59 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T11:56:27 < dongs> they really dont want people to use them for anything new 2016-08-17T11:56:54 < dongs> recommended STM32L071 as replcaement but that shit only comes in 192k flash 2016-08-17T11:59:04 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-17T12:02:17 < qyx> too much? 2016-08-17T12:02:37 < dongs> no 2016-08-17T12:02:38 < dongs> not enough 2016-08-17T12:02:44 < qyx> and L4? 2016-08-17T12:02:49 < dongs> L4 is to oexpensive 2016-08-17T12:02:55 < dongs> i think Ill just use 401re 2016-08-17T12:03:15 < qyx> not much difference in power saving modes anyway 2016-08-17T12:03:32 < qyx> I mean the common ones 2016-08-17T12:03:42 < qyx> but L4 had some fancy peripherals iirc 2016-08-17T12:04:45 < dongs> huh wat 2016-08-17T12:04:49 < dongs> L151 = 185uA/MUZ 2016-08-17T12:04:50 < dongs> MHz 2016-08-17T12:04:56 < dongs> 401 = 146uA/MHz 2016-08-17T12:05:02 < qyx> yes, that 2016-08-17T12:05:28 < qyx> also I found even lower values 2016-08-17T12:08:09 < dongs> hm wait 401 has no can? 2016-08-17T12:09:00 < qyx> no can 2016-08-17T12:18:37 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-17T12:18:41 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T12:19:27 < dongs> PeterM: ever heard of this "TOkyo coil" shit 2016-08-17T12:21:34 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T12:34:19 < PeterM> nope, got a link/whatever? 2016-08-17T12:35:03 < Tectu> Hi 2016-08-17T12:43:47 < Steffanx> Lo 2016-08-17T12:44:34 < ReadError> Bur 2016-08-17T12:44:59 < jpa-> y th 2016-08-17T12:46:42 < ReadError> android beta splitscreen is pretty okay 2016-08-17T12:49:41 < dongs> i got a 64meg .pdf 2016-08-17T12:53:14 < Tectu> embedded video? 2016-08-17T12:53:18 < Tectu> (which yes, is a thing) 2016-08-17T12:53:32 < dongs> no, this coil catalog 2016-08-17T12:53:51 < dongs> 64 pages 2016-08-17T13:04:50 < karlp> dongs: fuck st, I've been kinda expecting them to kill off l15x, but l15x has actual eeprom! 2016-08-17T13:05:38 < dongs> well, did you know? L071 acutally does have eeprom too. 2016-08-17T13:05:42 < dongs> its like the only one out of L0 series. 2016-08-17T13:05:45 < Steffanx> Is it actually eeprom and not emulated and stored in flash? 2016-08-17T13:05:51 < dongs> yeah. real eeprom cuz of write cycles. 2016-08-17T13:06:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.14] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-17T13:06:49 < jpa-> though L15x eeprom being slow & stopping code execution, i'm not sure if it is such a big win 2016-08-17T13:07:22 < Steffanx> Love thay feature. 2016-08-17T13:09:40 < dongs> mhm 2016-08-17T13:09:54 < dongs> well, looks like its gonna be 401 and external shittyeep anyway. 2016-08-17T13:11:31 < dongs> whgat the fuck 2016-08-17T13:11:38 < dongs> 401RE nucleo doesnt have port numbers 2016-08-17T13:11:45 < dongs> it has the fucking tarduino pins labeled 2016-08-17T13:11:49 < dongs> but not the dual row headers 2016-08-17T13:12:03 < dongs> fucking assholes 2016-08-17T13:12:05 < karlp> hrm, /me needs too look at 071 again. 2016-08-17T13:12:20 < dongs> karlp: STfags recommended F071VZ or someshit for my stuff instead of 151 2016-08-17T13:12:25 < dongs> but not enough flash, so i told them to stuff it 2016-08-17T13:12:29 < Steffanx> Better find yourself some fritzing schematic. 2016-08-17T13:12:49 < dongs> STM32L071VZT6 2016-08-17T13:13:21 < dongs> so dirty 2016-08-17T13:13:23 < dongs> frizyting, wat 2016-08-17T13:14:45 < karlp> huh, says they all have eeprom, 2016-08-17T13:14:50 < karlp> how did I miss that earlier? 2016-08-17T13:15:01 < karlp> maybe I just got pissed because I wanted SWO and ITM 2016-08-17T13:15:02 < dongs> dunno, i was using fucking cubemx 2016-08-17T13:15:10 < dongs> and when i clicked eeprom 2016-08-17T13:15:12 < dongs> it removed all L0 shit 2016-08-17T13:15:20 < dongs> maybe their shit was broken 2016-08-17T13:15:23 < dongs> so I never looked further 2016-08-17T13:25:48 < dongs> nucleo is clocked off MCO from stlink? 2016-08-17T13:26:40 < dongs> looks like it 2016-08-17T13:30:23 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-17T13:34:17 < Tectu> lol wut? 2016-08-17T13:34:24 < Tectu> seriously? 2016-08-17T13:34:29 < dongs> seriosul wat 2016-08-17T13:34:33 < jpa-> yeah, i think also some newer discoverys do that 2016-08-17T13:34:39 < Tectu> why? 2016-08-17T13:34:44 < jpa-> saves the cost of having another crystal 2016-08-17T13:34:45 < karlp> less xtals? 2016-08-17T13:34:47 < dongs> crystal too expensive 2016-08-17T13:34:52 < karlp> tectu wat 2016-08-17T13:34:52 < dongs> there's empty pads for HC49 xtal 2016-08-17T13:35:03 < karlp> it's been common back on discos too... 2016-08-17T13:35:04 < Tectu> ah, okay 2016-08-17T13:35:58 < dongs> now which DMA controller does 401 have... 2016-08-17T13:37:31 < Lux> on the f4 discovery it's even dumber 2016-08-17T13:37:45 < Lux> they use mco to clock the f407 and have the xtal fitted 2016-08-17T13:38:39 < dongs> nice 2016-08-17T13:39:01 < dongs> blah 2016-08-17T13:39:04 < dongs> its the stream/channel based shit 2016-08-17T13:39:08 < dongs> so I gotta port my code AGAIN 2016-08-17T13:39:24 < jpa-> that's the best shit 2016-08-17T13:39:29 < Sync> gg 2016-08-17T13:43:26 < dongs> #20: identifier "RCC_AHBPeriph_GPIOB" is undefined 2016-08-17T13:43:27 < dongs> pfft 2016-08-17T13:43:59 < dongs> oh, AHB1 heh 2016-08-17T13:48:07 < dongs> hah and they moved all the pinout around... 2016-08-17T13:48:08 < dongs> wtf 2016-08-17T13:52:13 < dongs> not marking port numbers on nucleo is fucking lose 2016-08-17T13:52:22 < dongs> fuck arduino faggots 2016-08-17T13:52:50 < jpa-> A0-A5 for the win 2016-08-17T13:53:19 < emeryth> it's an industrial standard, git gud 2016-08-17T13:55:21 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T13:55:26 < Tectu> arduino == industry 6.0 2016-08-17T13:55:47 < dongs> i think y ou misspelled "faggotry" 2016-08-17T13:56:24 < dongs> o man fucking GREAT 2016-08-17T13:56:30 < dongs> only one vdd pin 2016-08-17T13:56:33 < dongs> on all headers 2016-08-17T13:56:36 < dongs> and like 20 NC pins 2016-08-17T13:57:52 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-17T14:05:14 < Tectu> how are your shoes today, Mr. jpa- ? 2016-08-17T14:07:41 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.78] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T14:10:26 < jpa-> Tectu: they are parrot's, but wet 2016-08-17T14:19:49 < dongs> well that was ok 2016-08-17T14:19:56 < dongs> ported my l151 code to 401re dickleo 2016-08-17T14:20:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-17T14:20:04 < dongs> the most ragey part was DMA and finding the god dman pin names 2016-08-17T14:23:26 < karlp> well done getting dma fixed up so quick, 2016-08-17T14:23:41 < karlp> that and gpio shits is the most tedious moving from f1/l1 to f4 and co 2016-08-17T14:24:19 < dongs> L1 had proper AF GPIO 2016-08-17T14:24:21 < dongs> so that was easy 2016-08-17T14:24:59 < karlp> yeah, just saying it's those two things taht are most tedious 2016-08-17T14:25:11 < karlp> msot other differnces across the families are pretty minor really 2016-08-17T14:25:47 < jpa-> i2c? :P 2016-08-17T14:25:57 < karlp> oh, that's easy, I just don't use i2c ;) 2016-08-17T14:27:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T14:29:42 < dongs> yeah i havent started on i2c since i was using internal eep on Lx 2016-08-17T14:29:48 < dongs> so that's going to external but should be easy 2016-08-17T14:30:03 < dongs> so just commented that out for time being 2016-08-17T14:30:48 < karlp> external eeproms have even higher write counts than the l1 eeprom anyway... 2016-08-17T14:32:01 < dongs> hm 2016-08-17T14:32:06 < dongs> my clock setup is a bit cunty tho 2016-08-17T14:32:22 < dongs> if HCLK is 84mhz, APB1 is only 21mhz 2016-08-17T14:32:25 < dongs> hmmm 2016-08-17T14:37:46 < dongs> Up to 4 SPIs (up to 42Mbit/s at 2016-08-17T14:37:46 < dongs> fCPU 2016-08-17T14:37:46 < dongs> = 84 MHz), SPI2 2016-08-17T14:37:47 < dongs> wat. 2016-08-17T14:42:15 < karlp> why do you think apb1 is only 21mhz? 2016-08-17T14:42:22 < dongs> using the fucking excel shit t o calculate it 2016-08-17T14:42:33 < dongs> looks like i had to use expert mode to do it properly 2016-08-17T14:42:37 < karlp> ah, ther eit is, max 42mhz 2016-08-17T14:42:41 < dongs> yea 2016-08-17T14:42:53 < dongs> but in excel wizard mode, it says APB1 36MHz max 2016-08-17T14:43:04 < karlp> should just use the rm ;) 2016-08-17T14:43:05 < dongs> which makes it find next lowest shit, which is /4 or whatever 2016-08-17T14:43:08 < dongs> err, for wat 2016-08-17T14:43:13 < dongs> making my own clock config? 2016-08-17T14:43:14 < dongs> fuck off 2016-08-17T14:43:15 < karlp> hrm, not enough external ADC inputs. 2016-08-17T14:43:22 < dongs> on 401? 2016-08-17T14:43:27 < dongs> yeah i dont need any adc there at all 2016-08-17T14:43:31 < dongs> er, i think a vbat 2016-08-17T14:43:34 < dongs> but thats internal 2016-08-17T14:44:30 < dongs> o yeah 2016-08-17T14:44:32 < dongs> definitely faster 2016-08-17T14:44:32 < dongs> nice 2016-08-17T14:45:40 < karlp> jsut thinking for myself, we use an l151 now, it's the only part with 12 external adc channels ina 48pin or similar size package 2016-08-17T14:46:08 < dongs> ah 2016-08-17T14:46:12 < dongs> 401 doesnt evne come in 48pin rihgt? 2016-08-17T14:46:23 < dongs> ah it has a 48pin qfn 2016-08-17T14:46:35 < karlp> heh, rm0401 is the ref man for f410, not f401 2016-08-17T14:46:56 < dongs> RM0368 2016-08-17T14:46:58 < dongs> is the one you want 2016-08-17T14:47:20 < dongs> its weird, its only for those 401 series 2016-08-17T14:47:34 < dongs> cuz they have a lot less periperals than the other f4 series 2016-08-17T14:48:06 < dongs> karlp: 10 adc in 48pin, 16 in 64 :) 2016-08-17T14:50:53 < dongs> i guess i could go to spi1 to get 42mhz but the shitty ILI thing probably wont even work there 2016-08-17T14:51:22 < Tectu> most of the ILI are max'd out at 20 to 25 MHz over SPI 2016-08-17T14:51:28 < dongs> ok then. 2016-08-17T14:51:30 < Tectu> and some of them crap out at 10 MHz 2016-08-17T14:51:34 < dongs> and thats what its going at now. 2016-08-17T14:51:37 < dongs> 42/2mhz. 2016-08-17T14:51:41 < Tectu> lulz 2016-08-17T14:51:41 < dongs> 21 i guess. 2016-08-17T14:52:05 < Tectu> better increase that prescaler 2016-08-17T14:52:40 < karlp> dongs what? apb1 can go to 42mhz max, apb2 to 84mhz max. 2016-08-17T14:52:56 < dongs> yes 2016-08-17T14:53:06 < dongs> no, the o the rway around 2016-08-17T14:53:07 < karlp> why would you need to switch to spi1 to get 42mhz? 2016-08-17T14:53:26 < dongs> because SPI1 is on APB2 2016-08-17T14:53:36 < dongs> and SPI is /2 prescaler min. 2016-08-17T14:53:52 < dongs> so SPI2 on APB1 = 42mhz/2 = 21MHz max on there. 2016-08-17T14:54:10 < karlp> ah, right, that fucking /2 just for spi 2016-08-17T14:54:13 < dongs> which is ok, im not switching anyway cuz tecto the pro 2016-08-17T14:54:18 < dongs> tectu the lcd pro 2016-08-17T14:54:21 < dongs> says it wouldnt work anyawy. 2016-08-17T14:54:44 < karlp> virtually nothing abotu this "Batch aquisisition mode" in f410 2016-08-17T14:58:13 < Tectu> dongs, give it a try though. I've seen some ILI93xx in a commercial product that were running at 30 MHz over SPI. When memory serves me right the ILI9341 chip itself is spec'd at 20 to 25 Mhz, but that is w/o any kind of connection and cabling in between 2016-08-17T14:58:46 < Tectu> dongs, most of the dev-boards with ILI chips over SPI I have here crap out at 10 MHz 2016-08-17T14:59:27 < dongs> yeah this is ili over shitty wires 2016-08-17T14:59:31 < dongs> so I think its fine 2016-08-17T15:01:01 < Tectu> You should consider purchasing monster cables to get higher SPI freq 2016-08-17T15:02:15 < dongs> Tectu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BagjBdmyj0 2016-08-17T15:03:27 < Tectu> lol @ video description :p 2016-08-17T15:03:36 < dongs> ;d 2016-08-17T15:03:52 < Tectu> what are you using if I may ask? 2016-08-17T15:03:55 < dongs> nothing 2016-08-17T15:03:56 < Tectu> dongslib? 2016-08-17T15:03:58 < dongs> just my own trash 2016-08-17T15:03:58 < dongs> yeah 2016-08-17T15:04:07 < dongs> no framebuffer 2016-08-17T15:04:07 < Tectu> better GPL it to keep jpa- happy 2016-08-17T15:04:15 < Tectu> yeah, ugfx doesn't require a framebuffer either ;) 2016-08-17T15:04:27 < dongs> just draw to lcd, I have a thing that checks if DMA is worth it and do that or else just clock out to spi 2016-08-17T15:04:30 < jadew> manual cocks? 2016-08-17T15:04:32 < jadew> lol 2016-08-17T15:05:08 < jpa-> Tectu: better gpl it first and then switch-and-bait to closed source to make huge moneys 2016-08-17T15:05:29 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-17T15:05:34 < dongs> good idea 2016-08-17T15:05:43 < dongs> ill do both 2016-08-17T15:05:51 < dongs> dual license GPL and proprietary shti. 2016-08-17T15:05:51 < Tectu> rofl @ manual cocks, didn't see that until now 2016-08-17T15:05:59 < Tectu> dongs, then you will make jpa- very very happy 2016-08-17T15:06:10 < Tectu> also Mr. ChibiOS 2016-08-17T15:06:12 < dongs> then just remove GPL later 2016-08-17T15:06:37 < Tectu> better make sure that your sorez doesn't get leaked to torrentz.eu 2016-08-17T15:07:15 < jpa-> remember that you can always call it "sores are open" even if you make it closed sores 2016-08-17T15:07:35 < Tectu> nothing wrong with that as long as the sores are open 2016-08-17T15:07:53 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T15:08:09 < dongs> i can think of several projects where "sores are open" but I wouldnt touch them anyway 2016-08-17T15:08:18 < Tectu> uC/GUI 2016-08-17T15:08:19 < dongs> cuz they're just aids 2016-08-17T15:09:02 < jpa-> Steffanx: tectu has a small problem i think you can help him with: but which butt will I penetrate from now on then? 2016-08-17T15:09:41 < Tectu> dongs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBmp3k82Reo what happened with those dislikes? did ST people get offended? 2016-08-17T15:10:11 < dongs> i guess probably the gay music 2016-08-17T15:11:08 < Tectu> time to unmute 2016-08-17T15:11:08 < dongs> it really sux ILI doens't have a fucking "Clear the damn screen" command. 2016-08-17T15:11:17 < Tectu> yeah, don't use ILI stuff 2016-08-17T15:11:31 < Tectu> I have to tell that in this channel like once per month 2016-08-17T15:11:58 < ReadError> WHAT HAVE YOU DONE ANYWAYS DONGS 2016-08-17T15:12:56 < Tectu> ReadError, also screw you. Just went to YT.com and what do I see? "Watch it again: Kitten live stream" 2016-08-17T15:13:10 < ReadError> Tectu i dont even watch kitten streams and it came up on mine 2016-08-17T15:13:24 < ReadError> but its for a good cause 2016-08-17T15:15:34 < Tectu> can't think of anything good in relation with cats 2016-08-17T15:15:40 < Tectu> cats are the most useless animal 2016-08-17T15:15:44 < Tectu> even TempleOS guy hates them, I bet. 2016-08-17T15:16:03 < ReadError> apparently he likes dogs? 2016-08-17T15:16:14 < ReadError> in a not dog lover way 2016-08-17T15:17:06 < ReadError> o6 was telling me theres some shit on the site somewhere 2016-08-17T15:17:12 < ReadError> you can connect to a NIST server and talk to god? 2016-08-17T15:17:16 < ReadError> have you done that? 2016-08-17T15:17:18 < dongs> i bet o6 was telling you a lot of stuff 2016-08-17T15:18:03 < ReadError> anyone got the NSA kit ? 2016-08-17T15:18:31 < ReadError> 100 million buttcoins lol gtfo 2016-08-17T15:18:51 < Tectu> ? 2016-08-17T15:18:56 < Tectu> talk to Steffanx, he's into bitcoins 2016-08-17T15:21:16 < ReadError> Tectu not seen the news? 2016-08-17T15:21:37 < ReadError> https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/powerful-nsa-hacking-tools-have-been-revealed-online/2016/08/16/bce4f974-63c7-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html 2016-08-17T15:21:42 < Tectu> I only read news.temple.os 2016-08-17T15:22:04 < ReadError> The group also said that if the auction raised 1 million bitcoins — equivalent to roughly $500 million — it would release the second file to the world. 2016-08-17T15:22:06 < Steffanx> Im not. 2016-08-17T15:22:13 < Steffanx> Did it once. 2016-08-17T15:22:13 < Tectu> "Epicbanana" 2016-08-17T15:25:42 < jadew> wow 2016-08-17T15:25:48 * jadew takes his server down 2016-08-17T15:26:41 < ReadError> apparently theres a 300mb file you can DL 2016-08-17T15:26:45 < ReadError> with source 2016-08-17T15:26:50 < jadew> got a link? 2016-08-17T15:26:57 < ReadError> nope 2016-08-17T15:27:00 < ReadError> why i axe here ;) 2016-08-17T15:27:11 < ReadError> its out there i just havent looked too hard 2016-08-17T15:27:20 < ReadError> probably on the torrent sites by now 2016-08-17T15:29:15 < Tectu> what does "I axe here" mean? 2016-08-17T15:29:22 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/0YH6dXU.png 2016-08-17T15:29:44 < ReadError> i inquire within 2016-08-17T15:31:15 < Tectu> Hi Mr. crt 2016-08-17T15:31:38 < Tectu> ReadError, ah, is that the "strange way" of pronounce "ask"? 2016-08-17T15:31:43 < Tectu> ReadError, or is that an official word? 2016-08-17T15:32:07 < karlp> ReadError: hehe, clickbait win 2016-08-17T15:35:52 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXndz0RRVKI 2016-08-17T15:39:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-17T15:44:49 < Steffanx> Yes you camp, crt 2016-08-17T15:56:12 < karlp> continyuing from yesterday, are there any TVS diode solutions that are in smaller packages than the SMBJ stuff? 2016-08-17T15:56:32 < karlp> I think that's how this semtech uClamp shit got chosen, 2016-08-17T16:02:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-17T16:22:05 < zyp> karlp, smaller probably means weaker, because it'll have less thermal mass and will dissipate less 2016-08-17T16:23:36 < karlp> that's fine. 2016-08-17T16:26:51 -!- Palsson_ [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-17T16:36:17 < dongs> hmm 2016-08-17T16:36:23 < dongs> i dont really need external crystal on this 401 for anything 2016-08-17T16:36:29 < dongs> lets see if it'll run same of intrc 2016-08-17T16:49:14 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.224] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T17:00:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-17T17:12:59 < qyx> karlp: like this? http://www.tme.eu/sk/details/pesd3v3s2ut/transil-diody-jednosmerne-smd/nxp/pesd3v3s2ut215/ 2016-08-17T17:13:11 < qyx> there are some in sod123 and sot23 2016-08-17T17:13:16 < qyx> around 200W-400W 2016-08-17T17:14:18 < qyx> compared to 600-800W of SMBJ it's not that bad 2016-08-17T17:15:31 < qyx> also I used some 0603 low capacitance tvs in the past 2016-08-17T17:15:33 < qyx> for antenna inputs 2016-08-17T17:36:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.206] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T17:57:53 < Laurenceb> crt: http://imgur.com/a/9Nm4c 2016-08-17T17:59:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.206] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-17T17:59:47 < dongs> not funny 2016-08-17T18:03:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-17T18:14:19 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T18:15:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.78] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T18:19:40 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-17T18:19:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2b901-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-17T18:20:29 < Laurenceb> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a0_1471409659 2016-08-17T18:23:48 < Tectu> Laurenceb, please stop posting crap 2016-08-17T18:25:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-17T18:35:12 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T18:37:43 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T18:37:43 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-17T18:37:43 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T18:38:46 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-17T18:42:39 < dongs> two absolutely rage-worthy "coding practices" 2016-08-17T18:42:49 < dongs> 1) //comment. FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT. LEARN TO SPACEBAR FUCKER. 2016-08-17T18:43:07 < dongs> 2) return(10); FUCK YOU TOO. LEARN TO SPACE AND THERES NO NEED TO FUCKING () 2016-08-17T18:43:32 < dongs> to expand on 2) return is not a fucking function. so dont fucking write it like one. 2016-08-17T18:44:54 < Tectu> +1 2016-08-17T18:44:59 < Tectu> can't rage enough about that 2016-08-17T18:46:50 < dongs> A practical, but unlikely, motive is if you put parenthesis around the value, you can define return as a macro, and then insert some logging code to watch all your returns. 2016-08-17T18:46:53 < dongs> ahahaha 2016-08-17T18:46:55 < dongs> what the fuck 2016-08-17T18:48:10 < Sync> wot 2016-08-17T18:49:07 < Laurenceb> u wot m8 2016-08-17T18:50:40 < zyp> haha 2016-08-17T18:51:02 < zyp> unlikely for sure 2016-08-17T18:51:39 < Tectu> did your paki tell you that, dongs ? 2016-08-17T18:51:42 < zyp> but also pretty impractical, there's just too many returns and there's no filtering on what you'd log 2016-08-17T18:54:19 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/sKiw8uV 2016-08-17T18:55:08 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3DpUuopbM 2016-08-17T18:56:47 < dongs> are tehy both autistic fucks 2016-08-17T18:56:51 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-17T18:56:54 < dongs> k 2016-08-17T18:56:58 < Tectu> one worse than the other. guess which one is the worse. 2016-08-17T18:57:11 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T19:04:13 < aandrew> heh 2016-08-17T19:04:26 < aandrew> I use // only when quickly doing shit (test/debug). always use /* comment */ other wise and 2016-08-17T19:04:30 < aandrew> /* 2016-08-17T19:04:33 < dongs> not that 2016-08-17T19:04:34 < aandrew> * foo 2016-08-17T19:04:36 < aandrew> */ 2016-08-17T19:04:37 < aandrew> after 2016-08-17T19:04:39 < dongs> //faggot 2016-08-17T19:04:40 < dongs> vs 2016-08-17T19:04:40 < aandrew> for large blocks 2016-08-17T19:04:42 < aandrew> I know 2016-08-17T19:04:42 < dongs> // faggot 2016-08-17T19:04:46 < aandrew> you want //foo vs // foo 2016-08-17T19:04:46 < aandrew> yeah 2016-08-17T19:04:53 < dongs> i dont care that much for // for rsingle line shit 2016-08-17T19:04:53 < aandrew> and yes return foo not return(foo) 2016-08-17T19:05:00 < dongs> but FUCK YOU if you cant be arsed to put a space after it 2016-08-17T19:05:09 < aandrew> something that I personally rage on is spaces between a function and opening paren 2016-08-17T19:05:15 < aandrew> do_shit (blah); 2016-08-17T19:05:24 < aandrew> although I use if (foo) or while (foo) 2016-08-17T19:05:24 < dongs> yeah fuck that as well 2016-08-17T19:05:30 < dongs> thats correct. 2016-08-17T19:06:06 < aandrew> and I usually do something like 2016-08-17T19:06:08 < aandrew> if (foo) { 2016-08-17T19:06:10 < aandrew> blah; 2016-08-17T19:06:12 < aandrew> } 2016-08-17T19:06:19 < aandrew> rather than put the opening paren on its own line 2016-08-17T19:06:31 < dongs> space between if/for/while/etc, no space for function() 2016-08-17T19:06:33 < aandrew> er that closing brace should be aligned with if, not indented 2016-08-17T19:07:32 < dongs> anyway, enough rage for today 2016-08-17T19:07:42 < dongs> of course most of it came from tarduino code 2016-08-17T19:07:47 < dongs> thankfully i was just looking at it and not writing it. 2016-08-17T19:08:59 < upgrdman_> dongs, you like space between func name and parens? 2016-08-17T19:09:05 < dongs> no 2016-08-17T19:09:08 < upgrdman_> like foo () ? 2016-08-17T19:09:14 < dongs> if, for, etc are not function names. 2016-08-17T19:09:22 < dongs> void faggot(int lol); 2016-08-17T19:09:25 < dongs> faggot(10); 2016-08-17T19:09:30 < upgrdman_> ok good 2016-08-17T19:09:30 < dongs> if (faggot(10)) { 2016-08-17T19:09:41 < dongs> i think some gnutards insert faggot (10) 2016-08-17T19:09:57 < upgrdman_> but i gotta admit, i always omit the space before (, regardless of func or conditional or whatevs 2016-08-17T19:11:13 < upgrdman_> extra spaces just slow down the parser ;) 2016-08-17T19:11:41 < dongs> Laurenceb might wanna hve a word with you then 2016-08-17T19:11:43 < aandrew> lol 2016-08-17T19:11:55 < aandrew> reminds me of funroll-loops.org/com/whatever 2016-08-17T19:12:11 < dongs> yeahg 2016-08-17T19:12:17 < dongs> or people who write shit like 2016-08-17T19:12:26 < dongs> if (1) { do_craP(); } 2016-08-17T19:12:30 < dongs> and then! 2016-08-17T19:12:40 < dongs> if the if () is variable length 2016-08-17T19:12:45 < dongs> they'll fucking align it with spaces 2016-08-17T19:12:49 < dongs> so that opening {'s are aligned 2016-08-17T19:12:52 < dongs> cunts 2016-08-17T19:12:55 < Tectu> wtf? 2016-08-17T19:12:56 < Tectu> never seen that. 2016-08-17T19:12:56 < aandrew> I fucking hate indent with spaces 2016-08-17T19:13:01 < aandrew> holy fuck do I hate indent with spaces 2016-08-17T19:13:04 < dongs> or doing shit like 2016-08-17T19:13:05 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-17T19:13:08 < dongs> int faggot = 0; 2016-08-17T19:13:12 < dongs> int junk = 0; 2016-08-17T19:13:13 < dongs> etc 2016-08-17T19:13:21 < aandrew> I also dislike 4 space tabs. fuck that, 8 spaces. stop trying ot write such dense code you dense fucker 2016-08-17T19:13:27 < Tectu> aandrew, well, some tab crap doesn't render well on web pages and so on 2016-08-17T19:13:29 < englishman> 2 space indent, tabs suck 2016-08-17T19:13:29 < aandrew> oh yeah that is awful too 2016-08-17T19:13:32 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T19:13:47 < Tectu> tabs with size of 4, fuck all of you. 2016-08-17T19:14:25 < englishman> http://ukupat.github.io/tabs-or-spaces/? 2016-08-17T19:14:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T19:15:15 < aandrew> englishman: see, clearly tabs win 2016-08-17T19:15:31 < englishman> that isnt clear at all 2016-08-17T19:15:41 < upgrdman_> tab size 4 here too 2016-08-17T19:15:44 < Tectu> what's worse than tabs vs. spaces is that certain languages (yes, looking at you, make) only work with tabs. 2016-08-17T19:15:47 < aandrew> yeah I only looked at the first, didn't realize they broke it downl ike that 2016-08-17T19:15:51 < aandrew> I'm kind of surprised actually 2016-08-17T19:15:56 < englishman> lol make 2016-08-17T19:16:03 < dongs> lol ruby 2016-08-17T19:16:12 < aandrew> the C++ people are on crack. we already know that with their choice of language :-) 2016-08-17T19:17:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.11.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T19:17:17 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T19:17:44 < zyp> I'd say there's multiple kinds of C++ people 2016-08-17T19:18:15 < englishman> Tectu what is the ##stm32bro discount on commercial ugfx 2016-08-17T19:18:30 < englishman> imo switsserland has enough shekels 2016-08-17T19:18:31 < dongs> $0 beacuse he's a jew 2016-08-17T19:18:33 < zyp> I'm the lazy kind, I use C++ because it allows me to get the same results from half the lines of code 2016-08-17T19:18:44 < Tectu> englishman, 10% 2016-08-17T19:18:46 < dongs> and then there's the smoothieboard C++ people 2016-08-17T19:18:59 < zyp> and then you have the fucking weird kind that ends up with more code than just typing everything straight out 2016-08-17T19:19:04 < Laurenceb> wazzup with my code 2016-08-17T19:19:10 < dongs> it has no spaces 2016-08-17T19:19:11 < Laurenceb> I like it just the way it is 2016-08-17T19:19:13 < dongs> AT ALL 2016-08-17T19:19:16 < englishman> thanks Tectu 2016-08-17T19:19:24 < Tectu> englishman, need more? 2016-08-17T19:19:32 < englishman> add a zero if you can 2016-08-17T19:19:38 < dongs> ror 2016-08-17T19:19:45 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-17T19:20:30 < Tectu> well if this is for a small start-up company make it 30% 2016-08-17T19:21:20 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfCYZ3pks48 2016-08-17T19:25:25 < dongs> hm since i reinstalled win10, chrome no longer shows huge jpegs as they load 2016-08-17T19:25:29 < dongs> but just shows a small box 2016-08-17T19:25:33 < dongs> was that a pref i lost? 2016-08-17T19:26:19 < Rob235> yea sounds like an option I've seen somewhere 2016-08-17T19:27:08 < englishman> i get that too 2016-08-17T19:27:10 < englishman> h8 it 2016-08-17T19:27:13 < dongs> http://s.zeptobars.com/DS2401Z.jpg this used to show up slowly 2016-08-17T19:27:17 < dongs> but rendered properly 2016-08-17T19:27:25 < dongs> now on new install, it doesnt show until its all loaded 2016-08-17T19:29:22 < Laurenceb> lul 'i' 2016-08-17T19:29:48 < dongs> err, http://s.zeptobars.com/DS2401Z-HD.jpg 2016-08-17T19:29:55 < dongs> the thumbnail of coursel oads quickly 2016-08-17T19:30:11 < Rob235> oh wow, you're right 2016-08-17T19:30:14 < Rob235> I get the tiny box too 2016-08-17T19:30:17 < dongs> right 2016-08-17T19:30:22 < dongs> it used not to happen. 2016-08-17T19:30:37 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-17T19:31:40 < qyx> fuck tab size, use tab and set whatever you like 2016-08-17T19:31:47 < dongs> lol no 2016-08-17T19:31:57 < dongs> just use spaces, done 2016-08-17T19:31:59 < dongs> k bedtime 2016-08-17T19:32:10 < qyx> pls 2016-08-17T19:34:14 < englishman> in conclusion, 2 spaces ftw, goodbye. 2016-08-17T19:35:27 < Laurenceb> https://8ch.net/pol/src/1471451524579.gif 2016-08-17T19:35:29 < upgrdman_> ITT... productive debate 2016-08-17T19:36:10 < Tectu> WHERE DO YOU EVEN GET SHIT LIKE THAT FROM, Laurenceb ????????? 2016-08-17T19:36:23 < Rob235> this guy started talking to me in the dr office yesterday. Started talking about computer languages and he said he's learning ruby and it's tough (I've never used ruby so I don't know what it's like) but I said I mainly use c/c++ and he said people still use that? it sounds nerdy and boring 2016-08-17T19:36:23 < Laurenceb> erm check the url 2016-08-17T19:37:35 < Rob235> can people just say some random shit to get that annoying animation scrolled off the screen? :/ 2016-08-17T19:37:50 < Rob235> hi 2016-08-17T19:37:51 < Rob235> how are you 2016-08-17T19:37:52 < aandrew> don't use a client that auto-opens images 2016-08-17T19:37:53 < Rob235> great? 2016-08-17T19:37:55 < Rob235> thats good 2016-08-17T19:37:58 < Rob235> yea tru :P 2016-08-17T19:38:01 < Laurenceb> lulownd 2016-08-17T19:38:04 < Rob235> almost there! 2016-08-17T19:38:14 < aandrew> https://8ch.net/pol/src/1471451524579.gif 2016-08-17T19:38:15 < aandrew> oopsie 2016-08-17T19:38:16 < Rob235> HAHAHA 2016-08-17T19:38:19 < Rob235> bastard 2016-08-17T19:38:52 < Rob235> oh I never noticed cause it never bothered me before, there is an x to close out the preview 2016-08-17T19:39:18 < aandrew> still means you gotta close it manually 2016-08-17T19:39:25 < Rob235> i'm ok with that 2016-08-17T19:39:32 < Rob235> you have to open every image you want to see manually 2016-08-17T19:39:49 < Tectu> you can also just /ignore Laurenceb 2016-08-17T19:39:58 < englishman> no thats bullying 2016-08-17T19:40:14 < englishman> you have to let him be dumb, then tell him he is dumb. 2016-08-17T19:40:17 < Laurenceb> muh freedom of expression 2016-08-17T19:40:23 < englishman> Laurenceb: u r dumb. 2016-08-17T19:40:30 < englishman> plz stop. 2016-08-17T19:40:40 < aandrew> Rob235: I'm ok with that. 99% of what's pasted here I don't open 2016-08-17T19:40:42 < englishman> be more smarter. 2016-08-17T19:44:42 < Tectu> jadew, are you around & bored? 2016-08-17T19:50:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-17T20:00:54 < Steffanx> Rob235: solution: /ignore Laurenceb ;) 2016-08-17T20:01:13 < Steffanx> or ask Tectu to write you a regex that filters this shit. 2016-08-17T20:01:25 < Tectu> better jadew, he's the master of pro-ness 2016-08-17T20:01:53 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T20:07:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.199] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T20:17:00 < Steffanx> but you are learning. 2016-08-17T20:17:02 < karlp> qyx: thanks for that nxp pesd part, looks good. 2016-08-17T20:29:38 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T20:51:18 < karlp> bleh, st app note on migrating usb2 designs to use usb-c connectors doesn't even _mention_ powering the device side 2016-08-17T21:03:22 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T21:05:03 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-17T21:06:22 < Tectu> lol this 2016-08-17T21:06:22 < Tectu> (\.\./)?([^:\n]+):(\d+):(\d+):\s(\w+\s*\w*):\s([^\n]+)((?:\n\s*)([^\n]+))?((?:\n\s*)([^\n]+))? 2016-08-17T21:12:59 < Steffanx> stop that. 2016-08-17T21:16:54 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T21:17:44 < zyp> karlp, url for appnote? 2016-08-17T21:17:53 < zyp> what do you mean by powering the device side? 2016-08-17T21:50:28 < Rob235> afternooooon delight 2016-08-17T21:51:28 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-17T21:51:47 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T21:52:59 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-17T21:56:33 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T22:02:15 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T22:02:16 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-17T22:02:28 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-17T22:06:54 < zyp> karlp, from what I understand, migrating a simple device only usb2 design to usb-c only consists of replacing the connector itself, and adding a specific pulldown resistor to each of the CC pins in the connector 2016-08-17T22:07:24 < zyp> you'll then get vbus, dm, dp and gnd out of that which hooks up just like before 2016-08-17T22:07:46 < zyp> there's two dm/dp pins that you wire in parallel, and IIRC four vbus/gnd pins 2016-08-17T22:08:30 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-17T22:08:46 < zyp> differential pairs and other pins are irrelevant in a usb-2 design and CC pins only need pulldowns if you want to be device only and don't need to know what you're connected to 2016-08-17T22:11:23 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T22:28:15 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-17T22:29:54 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T22:33:10 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T22:35:25 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-17T22:47:07 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T23:01:04 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@cst2-44-133.cust.vodafone.cz] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T23:14:56 < kakimir> hello sensuals 2016-08-17T23:15:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T23:15:57 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-17T23:16:10 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-17T23:16:59 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@cst2-44-133.cust.vodafone.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-17T23:18:45 < kakimir> pumps are not going apparently 2016-08-17T23:20:52 < Steffanx> You really expect us to reply to "hello sensuals"? 2016-08-17T23:21:13 < kakimir> Steffanx: you irc 247? 2016-08-17T23:21:24 < Steffanx> Are you? 2016-08-17T23:21:30 < kakimir> no 2016-08-17T23:22:01 < upgrdman_> with printf() and doubles, is there a way to print a double to have just one significant digit after the decimal point? e.g. 0.1 becomes 0.1, 0.01 becomes 0.01, 0.00012345 becomes 0.001 ... ? 2016-08-17T23:22:17 < Steffanx> So, there is the answer to your question kakimir :P 2016-08-17T23:23:28 < Lux> upgrdman_: %.2f I think for example 2016-08-17T23:23:35 < Lux> that should give you 2 decimals 2016-08-17T23:24:32 < Lux> I'm not exactly sure what to do for double though 2016-08-17T23:25:23 < inca> zyp: I ended up figuring out my USBH HID issue. I was not toggling between DATA0 and DATA1. still not sure what it means, but that's why the device only responded to the first DATA0 OUT Interrupt over ep1. https://github.com/jhgorse/STM32F429ZITx_cube_usbh_hid/commit/2345b50adc22143873b72629fd8563950c1dc242 2016-08-17T23:25:44 < kakimir> are you saying my ircs = your ircs Steffanx ? that is creepy 2016-08-17T23:25:50 < Steffanx> %f is actually a double Lux, not a float. 2016-08-17T23:25:51 < inca> anyway, thanks for the advice early on. demo went well. 2016-08-17T23:25:58 < Lux> https://www.lix.polytechnique.fr/~liberti/public/computing/prog/c/C/FUNCTIONS/format.html 2016-08-17T23:26:03 < Steffanx> at least i thought that was for printf the case 2016-08-17T23:26:05 < Lux> yeah, I just realized 2016-08-17T23:26:33 < Lux> now I get why it's so fucking slow on an f4 2016-08-17T23:28:05 < Steffanx> No, im saying that the answer to your question is the same answer you just gave kakimir. 2016-08-17T23:28:44 < Lux> I used sprintf for floats and it actually became a bottleneck 2016-08-17T23:30:01 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jynhxzjxccmtrsbf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-17T23:30:33 < karlp> zyp: I guess yeah, yuou just use vbus like before, I just think they could have done a better job of describing that. 2016-08-17T23:30:49 < zyp> karlp, again, doc url? 2016-08-17T23:30:55 < zyp> or name so I can google it 2016-08-17T23:32:21 < zyp> inca, the point of data toggling is to avoid devices going out of sync due to retransmission 2016-08-17T23:32:57 < zyp> let's say normal data flow is OUT DATA0 ACK OUT DATA1 ACK OUT DATA0 ACK and so on 2016-08-17T23:33:54 < zyp> if a data packet gets damaged, it will fail crc and get dumped, host doesn't get an ack and will retransmit, like this: 2016-08-17T23:34:14 < zyp> OUT DATA0 … OUT DATA0 ACK 2016-08-17T23:35:20 < zyp> now, imagine how it'll look if it's the ack that gets damaged 2016-08-17T23:35:47 < zyp> from host's perspective, it'll look like this: 2016-08-17T23:36:04 < zyp> OUT DATA0 … OUT DATA0 ACK 2016-08-17T23:36:38 < zyp> but from the device's perspective, it'll receive the same packet twice, because host missed that it got it the first time 2016-08-17T23:37:05 < zyp> that's why there's a data toggle 2016-08-17T23:37:55 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-17T23:38:34 < zyp> on the second DATA0 packet, device can go «oh, I just got this, host must have missed that, let's just drop it and tell host we already got it» 2016-08-17T23:39:04 < zyp> I might be messing up some details, but broadly that's the purpose of it as I understand it 2016-08-17T23:39:20 < Steffanx> How would/does it tell "Already got it" ? 2016-08-17T23:39:35 < zyp> by acking the new one 2016-08-17T23:39:50 < zyp> there's no separate already-token, host doesn't need to care 2016-08-17T23:39:58 < zyp> host only cares that it eventually arrives 2016-08-17T23:39:59 < inca> zyp: that makes a lot more sense than the story I made up about some sort of speed/buffer optimization I didn't need. 2016-08-17T23:40:07 < Steffanx> yeah, i thought you meant that by "already got it" 2016-08-17T23:40:24 < inca> zyp: thanks =) 2016-08-17T23:40:34 < kakimir> I think I need some power supplies 2016-08-17T23:41:16 < zyp> which kind? 2016-08-17T23:42:58 < kakimir> I think I need 48V supply 2016-08-17T23:43:42 < kakimir> and then I may need some CV/CC modules that can be connected to such supply or lower voltage supply 2016-08-17T23:44:03 < Steffanx> For what purpose mr kakimir? 2016-08-17T23:44:24 < kakimir> general mess stuff 2016-08-17T23:45:45 < kakimir> 48volts to have proper voltages at lab 2016-08-17T23:46:06 < kakimir> led drivers testing, battery pack charging etc. 2016-08-17T23:51:02 < englishman> hmm neat, Intel-ARM partnership for 10nm process 2016-08-17T23:51:25 < kakimir> 10nm stm32 - when? 2016-08-17T23:52:43 < kakimir> what process is used for general mcus? 2016-08-17T23:52:47 < kakimir> 90nm? 2016-08-17T23:53:06 < englishman> just cortex-a --- Day changed Thu Aug 18 2016 2016-08-18T00:05:47 < Tectu> why do people want stuff like this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1538570791/rhino-hammer?ref=project_page_recs 2016-08-18T00:06:38 < BrainDamage> why would you even want an hammer with such short arm, it's essentially useless 2016-08-18T00:07:00 < BrainDamage> >One of the big ideas developing Rhino Hammer is that we realized it's smarter and faster using the right tools and better it's convenient to reach like other decorations. 2016-08-18T00:07:06 < BrainDamage> so avoid it :D 2016-08-18T00:07:26 < kakimir> in video 0:46 2016-08-18T00:07:36 < kakimir> what are those ceramic pieces? 2016-08-18T00:08:45 < upgrdman_> so for digital signal, an optoisolator will get them across isolation. what about analog? is the easiest way to use a delta-sigma modulator? 2016-08-18T00:09:07 < kakimir> those are used in rumbler thing that can be used to remove paint or refine surface 2016-08-18T00:09:09 < BrainDamage> you can do optoisolation for analog too 2016-08-18T00:09:45 < BrainDamage> there'll be a negative feedback that measures the led's output and corrects it with an amplifier on the sending side 2016-08-18T00:10:20 < BrainDamage> howrever, if your source is digital, sending the pulses is easiest 2016-08-18T00:10:25 < Tectu> yeah, there are actually fiber optic installations that use analog signals w/o digitalizing them. Afaik they are only used in TV broadcasting systems for backwards compatibility or something like that. But they exist. 2016-08-18T00:14:10 < upgrdman_> hmm ok 2016-08-18T00:14:49 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-18T00:15:00 < karlp> an4775 zyp 2016-08-18T00:20:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T00:24:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.11.33] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-18T00:29:18 -!- chickensk [~chickensk@94.230.156.7] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-18T00:32:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T00:54:21 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T01:01:04 < zyp> heh, it mentiones a stm32l1w 2016-08-18T01:01:07 < zyp> wireless l1? 2016-08-18T01:02:22 < zyp> ah, yeah 2016-08-18T01:02:23 < zyp> http://www.emcu.it/SILICA-STDay-2012/Wless-Embedded-Connectivity-ST.pdf 2016-08-18T01:02:32 < zyp> This part of doc is reserved, for more 2016-08-18T01:02:33 < zyp> info contact your SILICA local FAE 2016-08-18T01:05:54 < zyp> karlp, ah, figure 7 left out vbus 2016-08-18T01:07:54 < zyp> in figure 9, I'd just use that $.2 chip dongs found instead of all the mess on the CC lines 2016-08-18T01:13:03 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T01:13:48 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T01:15:13 < Laurenceb__> what the heck 2016-08-18T01:15:20 < Laurenceb__> stm32w coming back? 2016-08-18T01:15:23 < Laurenceb__> I hope so 2016-08-18T01:15:36 < zyp> doc is from 2012 2016-08-18T01:15:44 < zyp> so it should have been around for a while 2016-08-18T01:15:45 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-18T01:15:49 < zyp> probably just super sekrit 2016-08-18T01:16:04 < Laurenceb__> ST should do spirit1 with stm32 2016-08-18T01:16:35 < Laurenceb__> that would be epic 2016-08-18T01:17:56 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/CBtCpt.jpg 2016-08-18T01:19:24 < englishman> Laurenceb__: congratulations 2016-08-18T01:19:31 < englishman> that was actually funny 2016-08-18T01:19:44 < englishman> you should celebrate 2016-08-18T01:19:44 < zyp> woah, what's this? 2016-08-18T01:21:21 < zyp> haha, it's true 2016-08-18T01:24:27 < zyp> the «so many claws» thing kinda seems to miss the fact that that means force gets distributed to more points though 2016-08-18T01:25:04 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T01:32:54 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-18T01:34:44 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-18T01:40:21 < aandrew> Laurenceb__: that was funny 2016-08-18T01:41:33 < Rob235> agreed 2016-08-18T01:42:19 * Rob235 gives applause 2016-08-18T01:45:08 < Rob235> damn! 2016-08-18T01:45:40 < Rob235> Today was a perfect day to fly but it got pushed to tomorrow and tomorrow isn't looking great 2016-08-18T02:04:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:9917:ba85:15af:6018] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T02:11:01 < jadew> haha 2016-08-18T02:11:06 < jadew> loved the cat story 2016-08-18T02:25:11 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T02:25:22 < Rob235> which is better and why? not sending ESCs any signal if not armed/arming, send 1000 pulse when arming and whatever when armed VS Always sending 1000 in every mode but armed. 2016-08-18T02:31:30 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-18T02:46:22 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T02:49:35 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-18T02:51:28 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-18T02:54:54 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-18T02:58:14 < karlp> good cat story 2016-08-18T02:58:29 < karlp> zyp: wasn't dong's thing for host side? he was making a charger thing wasn't he? 2016-08-18T03:06:13 < karlp> what part was it again anyway? 2016-08-18T03:10:47 < jadew> yes, this is a safe space 2016-08-18T03:15:01 < jadew> not much, had a shitty day 2016-08-18T03:15:48 < jadew> but I decided that I'll have a markeatable product in a month 2016-08-18T03:16:36 < jadew> not sure if I should fully quit my job or ask for a demotion and stay in simpler position until that's done 2016-08-18T03:16:49 < jadew> crt, no, I don't need funding 2016-08-18T03:17:51 < jadew> yet another person got hired that seems to make the calls on top of me 2016-08-18T03:17:58 < jadew> and they're the bad calls 2016-08-18T03:18:09 < jadew> and me, being the SA I have to point it out 2016-08-18T03:18:20 < jadew> when in fact I should be making those decisions to begin with 2016-08-18T03:18:26 < jadew> and I don't want to be the problem employee 2016-08-18T03:18:42 < jadew> so I'm going to ask for a demotion as a condition to keep working there 2016-08-18T03:35:29 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-18T03:41:00 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T03:54:14 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d4074b.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T03:59:18 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-08-18T03:59:44 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T04:06:44 < dongs> PeterM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/371476269858 2016-08-18T04:11:21 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T04:15:56 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T04:17:21 < dongs> holy shit arduino. #define bitWrite(value, bit, bitvalue) ((bitvalue) ? bitSet(value, (bit)) : bitClear(value, (bit))) 2016-08-18T04:17:29 < dongs> why why why why why is that even ever a macro fucking LOL 2016-08-18T04:17:43 < dongs> and in such awful way too 2016-08-18T04:19:52 < dongs> simply mask and write without a fucking if() would be way better 2016-08-18T04:22:22 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d40463.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T04:25:17 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d4074b.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-18T04:25:32 < dongs> heh, i have a smaller version of that in my power supply 2016-08-18T04:41:24 < dongs> https://techdocs.altium.com/display/FPGA/NEC+Infrared+Transmission+Protocol why does this exist 2016-08-18T04:51:03 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T05:06:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:9917:ba85:15af:6018] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T05:09:15 < upgrdman> fuck. thought my UPS died. turns out you have to hold the power button for >5 seconds in order for it to turn on. 2016-08-18T05:09:39 < upgrdman> insides looked interesting tho. but waste an hour of my time :/ 2016-08-18T05:09:50 < dongs> and you called me a nig when i told you that 2016-08-18T05:09:59 < dongs> ^_^ 2016-08-18T05:10:54 < upgrdman> it WAS plugged in 2016-08-18T05:11:02 < upgrdman> i just didnt turn it on ^_^ 2016-08-18T05:15:00 -!- KreAture_Zzz [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T05:24:14 < englishman> not funny crt 2016-08-18T05:30:33 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T05:48:42 < ReadError> damn michael phelps gets to smoke weed all day and play in pools 2016-08-18T05:48:50 < ReadError> and get gold chains 2016-08-18T05:49:02 < ReadError> basically a rapper 2016-08-18T05:49:47 < ReadError> 28 medals wtf 2016-08-18T05:49:53 < ReadError> thats probably more than some counties 2016-08-18T05:50:07 < Rob235> herro 2016-08-18T05:50:40 < ReadError> Each gold medal contains 6 grams of gold, valued at $302.12, and 394 grams of sterling silver, valued at $318.70. The 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics medals are the same diameter as the 2012 medals (100 mm), but the value of silver and gold has changed over time. 2016-08-18T05:51:37 < ReadError> each is 125g 2016-08-18T05:51:43 < ReadError> 3.5kg hangin 2016-08-18T05:55:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.163.199] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-18T06:17:48 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T06:21:22 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T06:21:32 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T06:22:42 < ReadError> dongs pls2clone http://www.running-system.com/microsd-card-raid-1-vmware-esxi-boot-device/ 2016-08-18T06:22:49 < ReadError> 200 dollhairs 2016-08-18T06:24:32 < ReadError> raid0 ones are cheap 2016-08-18T06:24:45 < ReadError> but raid1 is pricey, seem backwards 2016-08-18T06:36:50 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T06:40:56 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T06:43:16 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7dLZacMrg 2016-08-18T06:44:25 < ReadError> already seen 2016-08-18T06:49:21 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T06:50:38 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-18T06:54:03 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T07:18:13 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T07:18:17 < jpa-> ReadError: looking at the comments ("Simon Yardley"), it seems it doesn't really work much as a raid anyway 2016-08-18T07:18:44 < ReadError> jpa- I just want redundant bootable ;( 2016-08-18T07:18:51 < ReadError> usb thumb drives randomly shit out 2016-08-18T07:19:17 < jpa-> yeah, that one doesn't seem very redundant at that 2016-08-18T07:19:19 < jadew> dongs, they would have had more sales if they used dead fish 2016-08-18T07:19:24 < ReadError> why do you think the raid0 is so cheap vs raid1? 2016-08-18T07:19:31 < jpa-> no idea 2016-08-18T07:19:36 < ReadError> seems like mirroring data would be easier than stripping it 2016-08-18T07:19:44 < jpa-> both are pretty trivial 2016-08-18T07:19:55 < jpa-> but i wonder why anyone would use raid0 on such, will be crazy slow anyway 2016-08-18T07:20:21 < jpa-> maybe your uefi would handle redundant boot if you just plug two usb flash drives? 2016-08-18T07:28:17 < ReadError> jpa- but it wouldnt handle mirroring 2016-08-18T07:28:51 < jpa-> how often are you changing your boot stuff? can't you just dd that in cron or something? 2016-08-18T07:29:04 < ReadError> jpa- its esxi host 2016-08-18T07:29:19 < jpa-> why does that modify data on the stick? 2016-08-18T07:29:25 < ReadError> configurations 2016-08-18T07:29:29 < ReadError> it doenst log to USB 2016-08-18T07:29:37 < jpa-> how often do you change those configs? 2016-08-18T07:29:37 < ReadError> doesnt* 2016-08-18T07:30:05 < ReadError> it has backend task that do things as well 2016-08-18T07:30:22 < ReadError> i.e. read only isnt an option 2016-08-18T07:31:01 < jpa-> and this data is mission-critical, i.e. if it is lost you cannot restore? 2016-08-18T07:31:33 < ReadError> no nothing is mission critical here 2016-08-18T07:31:39 < jpa-> well boot-critical 2016-08-18T07:31:45 < ReadError> im more so asking why these arent more common 2016-08-18T07:32:05 < ReadError> and the 20x increase in raid1 vs raid0 in price 2016-08-18T07:32:23 < jpa-> because they do not work? too many single failure points in the controller 2016-08-18T07:32:39 < jpa-> most high quality usb sticks already have redundancy in the flash 2016-08-18T07:32:51 < jpa-> (not 1:2 redundancy, but enough to work) 2016-08-18T07:32:51 < dongs> readcloner, is that USB3? 2016-08-18T07:34:29 < dongs> ReadError: http://www.cypress.com/file/124471/download 2016-08-18T07:35:58 < jpa-> http://www.pactronstore.com/index.php/products/fx3s.html haha, that cost 2016-08-18T07:36:44 < ReadError> woh nice find 2016-08-18T07:37:01 < ReadError> 250 dev board heh 2016-08-18T07:37:04 < dongs> what, thats probably whats inside that HP trash 2016-08-18T07:37:12 < dongs> cypress already did all the work 2016-08-18T07:37:15 < dongs> even firmware 2016-08-18T07:37:31 < ReadError> its probably one of those chips they dont sell to basicbitches tho 2016-08-18T07:38:06 < ReadError> oh they do, 27$ a pop 2016-08-18T07:38:08 < jpa-> yeah, you need to be smart enough to use digikey search 2016-08-18T07:39:52 < ReadError> there has to be some catch 2016-08-18T07:40:20 < ReadError> hmm actually they have all the downloads 2016-08-18T07:41:00 < jpa-> 0.8mm bga :P 2016-08-18T07:42:23 < ReadError> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/CYUSB3KIT-003/428-3347-ND/4989179?WT.z_slp_buy=Cypress_USB 2016-08-18T07:42:26 < ReadError> super hax 2016-08-18T07:42:38 < ReadError> shield ;p 2016-08-18T07:43:13 < jpa-> can't make shield, it doesn't have arduino headers 2016-08-18T07:43:16 < ReadError> si papi 2016-08-18T07:43:22 < ReadError> jpa- hmm good point 2016-08-18T07:43:25 < ReadError> rpi has hats 2016-08-18T07:43:28 < ReadError> bbb has capes 2016-08-18T07:43:57 < ReadError> R2COM they degrade too quickly with age 2016-08-18T07:44:06 < ReadError> after 24 its downhill 2016-08-18T07:46:05 < ReadError> i like all women 2016-08-18T07:47:39 < jpa-> (from a distance) 2016-08-18T07:48:27 < ReadError> R2COM uh 2016-08-18T07:50:15 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2016-08-18T07:50:56 < ReadError> oh god fuck off, not more Qt 2016-08-18T07:51:05 < ReadError> lets talk about russia or something 2016-08-18T07:52:51 < dongs> does your screen have a million pixel horizontal resolution 2016-08-18T07:53:14 < dongs> k 2016-08-18T07:53:20 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF667f7XBjw 2016-08-18T07:54:55 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T07:54:59 < dongs> no, i clicked like 2016-08-18T07:57:28 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T07:57:35 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-18T07:57:35 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T07:58:06 < dongs> http://jezebel.com/why-isnt-it-called-no-womans-sky-1785411230 2016-08-18T07:58:51 < dongs> then write your fucking drawing function to average over zoom so that you're never DRAWING > screen_width pixels. 2016-08-18T07:58:56 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T08:00:05 < dongs> ?????????????? 2016-08-18T08:00:23 < dongs> how is that going to be any different from drawing 5000 points in the space of a pixel? 2016-08-18T08:00:26 < dongs> yeah and? 2016-08-18T08:05:26 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T08:05:27 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T08:05:47 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T08:11:27 < aandrew> hm, wtf is stm32 timer "output compare no output" ? 2016-08-18T08:12:25 < jpa-> sounds like a way to disable the output 2016-08-18T08:12:36 < jpa-> (keep the present value) 2016-08-18T08:13:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T08:13:57 < dongs> aandrew: probly triggers IRQ but without any hardware pin output if you dont need it 2016-08-18T08:14:39 < aandrew> damn, I've got pretty much every timer pin used 2016-08-18T08:14:48 < aandrew> I need one more so I don't have to bitbang ws2812 shit 2016-08-18T08:15:13 < aandrew> I can probably use tim2/5 but I didn't want to waste a 32-bit timer 2016-08-18T08:15:51 < aandrew> actually I forgot I need another timer out put for a 1/2 speed i2s clock 2016-08-18T08:16:39 < dongs> http://goo.gl/o134HM what do you guise think 2016-08-18T08:30:04 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T08:31:26 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-18T08:33:25 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T08:33:47 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T08:34:06 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-37-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-18T08:36:34 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-18T08:47:23 < kakimir> what is that dongs 2016-08-18T08:48:33 < ReadError> takes 9v and outputs 2.4? 2016-08-18T08:59:37 < kakimir> and.. why? 2016-08-18T09:02:45 -!- SadMan [foobar@sadman.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T09:02:59 -!- SadMan [~sadman@sadman.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T09:04:05 < jadew> another successful troll by dongs 2016-08-18T09:06:46 < jadew> I think it's a level detector 2016-08-18T09:12:09 < jadew> yeah, when the level goes down the LED turns on 2016-08-18T09:16:36 < jadew> dongs, you can do it with 2 2016-08-18T09:17:05 < zyp> karlp, it was configurable to all sides 2016-08-18T09:17:06 < dongs> ya? 2016-08-18T09:17:22 < zyp> karlp, UFP, DFP, DRD 2016-08-18T09:17:53 < jadew> dongs, yeah, if the second one instead of feeding another one, it feedsback into the gate of the first one 2016-08-18T09:18:08 < dongs> which "second" one 2016-08-18T09:18:14 < dongs> the right side pfet is high current rated stuff 2016-08-18T09:18:17 < dongs> left side is just signal junk 2016-08-18T09:18:54 < jadew> ah 2016-08-18T09:19:32 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-18T09:22:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T09:23:17 < jadew> well, should still work I guess, you could have the voltage divider on the pfet that feeds the LED, and on the drain, feed the gate of an nfet, which when turned on, would get the gate of the first one to ground 2016-08-18T09:24:08 < jadew> so the nfet provides feedback which generates more current to flow, so more feedback, etc 2016-08-18T09:24:49 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T09:24:51 < jadew> what you currently have will turn on gradually 2016-08-18T09:24:57 < jadew> this sort of arrangement would just turn on 2016-08-18T09:25:00 < dongs> 6-Pin (1.5mm x 1.0mm) µDFN Package 2016-08-18T09:25:05 < dongs> fuck maxim 2016-08-18T09:25:14 < dongs> how do you evne 6pin in t hat fucking package 2016-08-18T09:25:51 < jadew> how big is uDFN? 2016-08-18T09:26:00 < dongs> .. 1.5x1mm 2016-08-18T09:26:04 < jpa-> i'd guess it is about 1.5 x 1 mm 2016-08-18T09:26:04 < jadew> ah 2016-08-18T09:26:08 < jadew> sorry, I'm tired 2016-08-18T09:26:34 < jpa-> i'd make a 1x1x1mm cube and put one pin on each side 2016-08-18T09:26:54 < jadew> I'm off to bed 2016-08-18T09:26:57 < jadew> bye 2016-08-18T09:38:06 < ReadError> why not they use the balls? 2016-08-18T10:00:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.132.27] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T10:01:55 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXqR-j1bAsg&feature=youtu.be&t=92 2016-08-18T10:03:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.132.27] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-08-18T10:03:37 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T10:03:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T10:07:47 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-18T10:08:55 < upgrdman> w.t.f. nsfw http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fdd_1470751312 2016-08-18T10:18:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.186] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T10:23:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-18T10:24:29 < Steffanx> Your nick has the same colour as mr L's. Must mean something upgrdman :P 2016-08-18T10:24:52 < jpa-> pink? 2016-08-18T10:25:10 < Steffanx> I already was surprised mr L said "nsfw" then i saw it was you 2016-08-18T10:25:16 < Steffanx> Hah yes. Pink. 2016-08-18T10:30:34 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-18T10:55:58 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T10:57:49 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T11:16:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Copywight 2012 Elmer Fudd. All wights wesewved.] 2016-08-18T11:18:30 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T11:21:44 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T11:29:45 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T11:33:02 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T11:36:18 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T11:37:41 < ReadError> awww ChemPlayer is stopping 2016-08-18T11:38:12 < ReadError> probably for the best, most the things they made can get you in trouble many places 2016-08-18T11:50:55 < dongs> if I have a timer OC output and I just set pin high or low by BSRRL/H whaever GPIO shit, is it gonna work 2016-08-18T11:51:32 < zyp> dongs, huh? 2016-08-18T11:51:50 < zyp> BSRR just sets ODR, ODR is ignored when the pin is in AF mode 2016-08-18T11:51:53 < zyp> if that's what you're asking 2016-08-18T11:51:56 < dongs> right 2016-08-18T11:51:58 < dongs> so that wont work 2016-08-18T11:51:59 < dongs> hm. 2016-08-18T11:52:16 < dongs> how do I something like like IRTIM without IRTIM then :) 2016-08-18T11:53:22 < zyp> what do you want to do? 2016-08-18T11:53:56 < dongs> just that. 2016-08-18T11:54:05 < dongs> carrier pwm + pulses 2016-08-18T11:54:26 < zyp> so, one timer gated by another? 2016-08-18T11:54:28 < dongs> i suppose i have a shitload of ram I could just make whole thing as DMA 2016-08-18T11:54:28 < dongs> yeah 2016-08-18T11:54:47 < zyp> master/slave mode with gating, maybe? 2016-08-18T11:55:41 < zyp> or use timer update interrupt to count cycles and change channel register between 0 and whatever duty 2016-08-18T12:00:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.145.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-18T12:11:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T12:18:08 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d40463.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-18T12:19:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T12:22:39 < karlp> jadew: don't ask for a demotion to keep working there, unless you feel incredibly insecure about perhaps not having a glowing reference from them. Just start doing less and less work. no need to officially ask for a demotion. 2016-08-18T12:22:49 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T12:22:51 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T12:38:09 < Laurenceb__> all the trolls in the channel 2016-08-18T12:47:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T12:49:42 < dongs> http://goo.gl/lfsbpY how about this 2016-08-18T12:51:28 < ReadError> hmmm hidden link 2016-08-18T12:51:35 < ReadError> risky click 2016-08-18T12:51:37 < Tectu> sfw 2016-08-18T12:51:41 < Tectu> electronics simulator 2016-08-18T12:51:42 < Tectu> also hi 2016-08-18T12:51:58 < ReadError> one of them botters would be nice that decrypts them 2016-08-18T12:52:19 < ReadError> all them NSA rootspywares and stuff out these days 2016-08-18T12:53:17 < ReadError> waiting for the german with weechat to tell me their cilent already does that 2016-08-18T12:53:30 < karlp> dongs: is a diode, inverter, and two fets really better than 3 fets? 2016-08-18T12:53:40 < dongs> karlp: you mean vs my old circuit? 2016-08-18T12:53:56 < karlp> yeah 2016-08-18T12:54:17 < karlp> zener + inverter vs one fet seems like a poor trade 2016-08-18T12:54:26 < dongs> but the cutoff is much more precise 2016-08-18T12:54:51 < dongs> if I use unbuffered cmos inverter lie E74LVC1GU04 2016-08-18T12:54:56 < dongs> er, LIKE 74LVC1GU04 2016-08-18T12:55:04 < dongs> its eaxctly 1/2vcc 2016-08-18T12:55:29 < dongs> i suppose i could get a matched pn pair fet 2016-08-18T12:55:35 < dongs> for hte 1st circuit 2016-08-18T12:55:36 < dongs> to achieve ~same 2016-08-18T12:56:25 < Tectu> > IoT is just modern word, which actually can be replaced with classic "embedded device with internet connectivity". 2016-08-18T12:57:19 < PeterM> >IoT = Internet on Toilets 2016-08-18T12:57:40 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T12:57:57 < dongs> w< Tectu> "embedded device with internet connectivity full of bugs" 2016-08-18T12:58:00 < dongs> ^ ftfy 2016-08-18T12:58:26 < Tectu> ty :* 2016-08-18T12:58:49 < Steffanx> Sadly that is too close to the truth peterm 2016-08-18T13:04:47 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@81.141.246.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T13:12:09 -!- bugzc_ [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T13:12:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T13:16:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-18T13:17:24 < PeterM> crt when was the last tiem someone called you a spastic, you fuckin spastic 2016-08-18T13:18:36 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T13:18:49 < Steffanx> What makes you say this peterm? 2016-08-18T13:19:38 < PeterM> i made an observation on the changing of spoken language 2016-08-18T13:19:50 < PeterM> especially those specific to australia 2016-08-18T13:20:16 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-18T13:20:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T13:24:02 < Steffanx> Oh i guess he deserves it then. 2016-08-18T13:25:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-18T13:35:00 < karlp> I saw some stroopwaffelscake something on the internet the other day, thought of ##stm32 2016-08-18T13:35:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-18T13:38:24 < Steffanx> Yes i did crt. 2016-08-18T13:38:49 < Steffanx> We have stroopwafel ice too. 2016-08-18T13:39:05 < Tectu> *__* 2016-08-18T13:39:10 < Steffanx> Mcdonalds even has it iirc. 2016-08-18T13:39:20 < PeterM> do you have a few roos loose in the top paddock? 2016-08-18T13:40:20 < Tectu> Steffanx, what is that strange gingerbread style bread/cake called that I got for breakfast every day? AlbertHeijn has it in some 5-sided red cardboard (with yellow printing, if I remember correctly) sealed in plastic. 2016-08-18T13:44:53 < Steffanx> Uh what tectu & peterm? 2016-08-18T13:45:13 < Tectu> Steffanx, what was unclear? It's some dutchland food. 2016-08-18T13:45:22 < Tectu> and I don't know the name anymore 2016-08-18T13:45:23 < ReadError> Steffanx do you not tab complete? 2016-08-18T13:45:31 < ReadError> its odd seeing it like 'peterm' 2016-08-18T13:45:44 < Tectu> he's too bored at works o better waste time typing nicks on irc 2016-08-18T13:47:12 < Steffanx> Phone. 2016-08-18T13:47:31 < Steffanx> I have no clue tectu 2016-08-18T13:47:43 < Steffanx> Crt 2016-08-18T13:48:22 < PeterM> curt 2016-08-18T13:48:39 < Tectu> don't you food, Steffanx ? 2016-08-18T13:48:52 < zyp> how do you food? 2016-08-18T13:49:18 < Tectu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eXCKFMzg2w 2016-08-18T13:49:20 < Tectu> like that ^ 2016-08-18T13:49:35 < Steffanx> You buy some random food at AH and expect me to know it? 2016-08-18T13:49:53 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-18T13:50:06 < Steffanx> No clue. 2016-08-18T13:52:39 < Tectu> ESP8266 with voice recognition and GUI: https://community.ugfx.io/topic/502-wiieva-esp8266-ugfx-stm32/ 2016-08-18T13:55:16 < dongs> pfft 2016-08-18T13:55:19 < dongs> you just linked it cuz of ugfx 2016-08-18T14:05:00 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-18T14:27:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T14:28:35 < Steffanx> Ok 2016-08-18T14:29:27 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T14:30:14 < Laurenceb> lul crt 2016-08-18T14:30:22 < Laurenceb> looks like typical rap 2016-08-18T14:31:34 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OEE0KHjLrE 2016-08-18T14:31:36 < Laurenceb> ^that 2016-08-18T14:38:46 < ReadError> oh god 2016-08-18T14:38:47 < ReadError> https://i.sli.mg/VtpMip.png 2016-08-18T14:38:56 < ReadError> some chinese guys ebay store 2016-08-18T14:39:27 < dongs> stoner trash most likely 2016-08-18T14:41:12 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6TfXurYh2Y 2016-08-18T14:41:12 < ReadError> well its not what it is but what it looks like 2016-08-18T14:43:28 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmQ5gcdJYNQ 2016-08-18T14:48:52 < kakimir> quality urls 2016-08-18T14:49:50 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-18T14:55:44 < kakimir> soon 2016-08-18T15:05:36 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-18T15:10:34 < kakimir> me? 2016-08-18T15:11:49 < Laurenceb> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/7/7b/Moonmanbanned2.PNG/180px-Moonmanbanned2.PNG 2016-08-18T15:11:57 < Laurenceb> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/thumb/7/7b/Moonmanbanned3.PNG/180px-Moonmanbanned3.PNG 2016-08-18T15:12:12 < Laurenceb> derp res 2016-08-18T15:15:16 < kakimir> almost readable 2016-08-18T15:28:10 < ReadError> Laurenceb ban incoming... 2016-08-18T15:28:35 < ReadError> not only ED, but its some 4chan wizard and its unreadable 2016-08-18T15:30:41 < ReadError> where is rob i have to show him something 2016-08-18T15:30:44 < dongs> hmm. found clive1 example of gating TIM1 with TIM3 2016-08-18T15:36:04 < Laurenceb> dongs: I used timer gating for my OFDM shit, worked well 2016-08-18T15:42:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T15:45:58 < aandrew> what's wrong with a fet and a zener with a couple of resistors? 2016-08-18T15:46:29 < aandrew> (for dongs level detector) 2016-08-18T15:47:45 < aandrew> that isn't even derp res, that's why bother res 2016-08-18T15:49:05 < karlp> aandrew: the prior design was 3 fets+resistors, the later design was two fets, zener, inverter+resistors 2016-08-18T15:49:14 < Laurenceb> too busy reading dolphinsex.com 2016-08-18T15:51:48 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T15:53:38 < Rob235> for real or for trolls? 2016-08-18T15:53:47 < ReadError> Rob235 https://i.sli.mg/KiC5Vg.png 2016-08-18T15:54:00 < ReadError> 2 of ur favorite things 2016-08-18T15:54:05 < ReadError> weed and vapes 2016-08-18T15:54:19 < ReadError> defatting some wax to make some juice 2016-08-18T15:54:48 < aandrew> what? 2016-08-18T15:54:50 < Rob235> how are you defatting? 2016-08-18T15:54:53 < aandrew> wax has fat? 2016-08-18T15:54:56 < Rob235> winterization? 2016-08-18T15:55:00 < aandrew> and what's that got to do with juice 2016-08-18T15:55:07 < aandrew> or are you talking in c0d3 2016-08-18T15:55:15 < ReadError> winterizing 2016-08-18T15:55:31 < Rob235> yea that looks hella waxy, is that bubble? 2016-08-18T15:55:47 < ReadError> sorry defatting is another thing :) 2016-08-18T15:55:54 < ReadError> dewaxing 2016-08-18T15:56:10 < ReadError> Rob235 BHO 2016-08-18T15:56:19 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-18T15:56:43 < Rob235> was it you that has a vac? 2016-08-18T15:56:46 < ReadError> i dissolved in dry alcohol 2016-08-18T15:57:01 < ReadError> coldcrashed it overnight, filtered through some 314 mesh 2016-08-18T15:57:23 < Rob235> nice 2016-08-18T15:57:25 < ReadError> reduce, coldcrash colder (dry ice or saltice), filter again 2016-08-18T15:57:32 < ReadError> pull the extra EtOH off under a vac 2016-08-18T15:57:37 < ReadError> should be pretty pure 2016-08-18T15:59:07 < Rob235> I only tried making bho once, but I don't have a vac so I used everclear to winterize and just tried to get rid of all of it 2016-08-18T15:59:46 < ReadError> yea you really need a vac, water content is a bitch 2016-08-18T16:00:26 < dongs> ReadError: Hi! It looks like you're engaging in activity not directly related to STM32 or electronics. May I suggest you tweet about it instead? Or perhaps make a stumble.upon? Or even better, just /msg ohsix directly? Thank you! 2016-08-18T16:00:46 < ReadError> dongs but making and stoning go hand and hand 2016-08-18T16:00:52 < ReadError> its part of the GNU/opensource lifestyle 2016-08-18T16:02:52 < Rob235> might go flying today! 2016-08-18T16:03:07 < Rob235> weather is pretty crappy though 2016-08-18T16:03:46 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Software-Architecture/Nectar-looking-for-Embedded-Software/ job4 Steffanx 2016-08-18T16:04:27 < dongs> http://nectar3d.com/#page1 2016-08-18T16:04:28 < dongs> oh look 2016-08-18T16:04:33 < dongs> they're hiring people to finish their dickstarter 2016-08-18T16:04:36 < dongs> how wonderful 2016-08-18T16:05:15 < dongs> Expected retail price: €5.999 (ex. 21% VAT) 2016-08-18T16:05:16 < dongs> haha 2016-08-18T16:05:46 < Laurenceb> lean / agile / scrum 2016-08-18T16:05:47 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-18T16:05:56 < dongs> scrum more like scum amirite 2016-08-18T16:06:14 < Laurenceb> Agile movement seeks alternatives to traditional project management. Agile approaches help teams respond to unpredictability through incremental, iterative work cadences and empirical feedback 2016-08-18T16:06:31 < Laurenceb> iterative work cadences motherfucker 2016-08-18T16:08:43 < Shavik> Can a USB endpoint use both IN and OUT or do you need a separate endpoint for each direction? 2016-08-18T16:09:05 < Shavik> Specifically relating to audio isochronous endpoints if that changes anything 2016-08-18T16:09:45 < Laurenceb> wow http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/asi-government-earns-spot-on-gsas-cmss-bpa-contract-300285540.html 2016-08-18T16:09:51 < dongs> Shavik: how do you expect it to do both 2016-08-18T16:10:02 < Shavik> Well thats what I'm asking 2016-08-18T16:10:07 < Shavik> So I guess the answer is two endpoints 2016-08-18T16:10:11 < dongs> correct 2016-08-18T16:10:13 < Shavik> Thanks 2016-08-18T16:10:21 < Shavik> I have audio out working just fine 2016-08-18T16:10:25 < Shavik> Just looking to the mic in now 2016-08-18T16:10:32 < dongs> cool 2016-08-18T16:11:36 < dongs> cuz iirc endpoint address determines if its in or out so 2016-08-18T16:11:59 < dongs> and thats in descriptor, so not changeable 2016-08-18T16:12:02 < dongs> bedtime 2016-08-18T16:14:48 < Shavik> appreciate the quick insight dongs 2016-08-18T16:14:49 < Shavik> have a good night 2016-08-18T16:20:49 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-18T16:22:33 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-18T16:33:14 < Steffanx> Why you hate me dongs? 2016-08-18T16:34:01 < Steffanx> Ok im sorry. 2016-08-18T16:34:21 < Steffanx> Shouldnt you? 2016-08-18T16:34:22 < englishman> Because its in Arnhem? 2016-08-18T16:34:41 < Steffanx> Because maker? 2016-08-18T16:35:06 < Steffanx> Cdonalds 2016-08-18T16:35:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T16:37:40 < ReadError> http://www.ika.com/ika/product_art/images/3564500_1.jpg 2016-08-18T16:37:53 < ReadError> any idea what that style is called? 2016-08-18T16:38:01 < ReadError> the one on the right 2016-08-18T16:40:08 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T16:41:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T16:42:07 < zyp> C15 2016-08-18T16:42:28 < zyp> it's a C13 rated for higher temps 2016-08-18T16:42:30 < ReadError> thanks 2016-08-18T16:42:37 < ReadError> I was looking for notched plug and not finding much 2016-08-18T16:42:45 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320 2016-08-18T16:43:03 < zyp> my 10G switch is using those 2016-08-18T16:43:22 < zyp> idk why, it's not getting that hot 2016-08-18T16:43:42 < ReadError> I ended up just cutting one in a cable I had here, fits like shit 2016-08-18T16:43:48 < zyp> haha 2016-08-18T16:49:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.12] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T16:52:28 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T16:52:49 < Laurenceb> http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/ 2016-08-18T16:52:53 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-18T16:53:04 < Laurenceb> the web is a sociopath with Asperger’s 2016-08-18T16:53:06 < Laurenceb> top kek 2016-08-18T16:53:08 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T16:54:05 < ReadError> with all this fancy imageprocessing shit why doesnt some company make something useful to identify connectors 2016-08-18T16:55:01 < ReadError> oh, because its hard to make money off it ;) 2016-08-18T16:56:29 < karlp> Laurenceb: who is asi, and what is exciting/wow about that press release? 2016-08-18T16:56:51 < Laurenceb> karlp: its purified buzzword bingo 2016-08-18T16:57:01 < Laurenceb> most buzzwords/text ever 2016-08-18T16:57:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-18T16:58:35 < BrainDamage> please, have you read intel-arm partnership announcement? >Accelerating Foundry Innovation for a Smart and Connected World 2016-08-18T16:58:44 < Laurenceb> heh 2016-08-18T17:04:40 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T17:06:00 -!- diddly [~dave@blk-138-38-171.eastlink.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-18T17:07:40 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T17:13:01 < Tectu> HELLO CRT, HOW ARE YOU?????? 2016-08-18T17:13:57 < Tectu> I AM FINE TOO, THANKS 2016-08-18T17:17:05 < ReadError> https://i.sli.mg/tFoUWa.png 2016-08-18T17:17:37 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-18T17:17:58 < ReadError> http://www.opensym.org/os2016/proceedings-files/p101-schneider.pdf 2016-08-18T17:17:58 < Tectu> how are god, screw and piss expletive words? 2016-08-18T17:18:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-18T17:20:05 < Laurenceb> Torvalds poo poo pee pee 2016-08-18T17:20:07 < Rob235> hi there 2016-08-18T17:20:54 < Laurenceb> actually 299.94 90% 2016-08-18T17:21:29 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T17:22:48 < Laurenceb> http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i59/2/8/3/frabz-ACTUALLY-9f1b65.jpg 2016-08-18T17:23:17 < Laurenceb> https://img.memecdn.com/nerd-couple_o_772464.jpg 2016-08-18T17:23:26 < zyp> https://twitter.com/actually_hn 2016-08-18T17:23:53 < Laurenceb> lul found Torvalds secret account 2016-08-18T17:24:10 < zyp> it's a bot that grabs shit from HN 2016-08-18T17:24:15 < Tectu> what's up with all that 'actually' stuff? Did I miss something? 2016-08-18T17:24:43 < Laurenceb> use of the word actually implies Torvalds 2016-08-18T17:27:22 < Rob235> with pid what should my integral windup limit be? half the range of motor output sound ok? 2016-08-18T17:33:03 < aandrew> PID tuning is pretty case-specific 2016-08-18T17:33:34 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T17:33:56 < Rob235> yea but I thought I gave enough info for windup 2016-08-18T17:34:18 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T17:34:41 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T17:36:22 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T17:45:32 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-18T17:51:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-18T18:02:21 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T18:03:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-18T18:05:21 < Ecco> Guys, how do you profile code execution on an STM32? 2016-08-18T18:05:26 < Ecco> Ideally using FLOSS tools 2016-08-18T18:06:02 < Laurenceb> gpio pin :P 2016-08-18T18:06:28 < englishman> printf( 2016-08-18T18:06:38 < Ecco> hmm 2016-08-18T18:06:49 < Ecco> yeah, that's not so great 2016-08-18T18:07:04 < ReadError> Ecco use RTOS 2016-08-18T18:07:11 < englishman> you have this artificial requirement of floss tools, so yr kinda dickered m8 2016-08-18T18:07:43 < Ecco> I said "ideally" :) 2016-08-18T18:07:49 < Ecco> It's not a requirement 2016-08-18T18:08:01 < Ecco> ReadError: how would an RTOS help? 2016-08-18T18:08:11 < ReadError> because you have tasks 2016-08-18T18:08:21 < ReadError> and it can keep track of how long each task takes 2016-08-18T18:08:37 < Laurenceb> Chibios has some profiling stuff built in 2016-08-18T18:08:43 < ReadError> ya 2016-08-18T18:08:50 < ReadError> freertos has someting too I think 2016-08-18T18:13:39 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-18T18:13:42 < Ecco> Will look into this 2016-08-18T18:13:43 < Ecco> thanks :) 2016-08-18T18:13:44 < Tectu> Hi Ecco 2016-08-18T18:14:00 < Tectu> FreeRTOS+Trace is pretty awesome 2016-08-18T18:14:05 < Tectu> but afaik somewhat pricey 2016-08-18T18:14:20 < Tectu> http://www.freertos.org/FreeRTOS-Plus/FreeRTOS_Plus_Trace/FreeRTOS_Plus_Trace.shtml 2016-08-18T18:14:23 < Tectu> actually has free version 2016-08-18T18:14:38 < Tectu> ChibiOS only has memory diagnostics. At least the last time I looked into it 2016-08-18T18:14:44 < Tectu> well, besides the generic debugging facilities. 2016-08-18T18:14:48 < Ecco> Hi Tectu :) 2016-08-18T18:15:04 < Ecco> Hmm, interesting 2016-08-18T18:15:06 < Ecco> thanks!! 2016-08-18T18:15:14 < Tectu> Keil µVision has profiling stuff too. 2016-08-18T18:15:25 < Tectu> http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/uv4/uv4_db_dbg_execprofiler.htm 2016-08-18T18:15:29 < Tectu> it's pretty schmick 2016-08-18T18:15:37 < Tectu> http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/uv4/uv4_db_dbg_perfanalyzer.htm 2016-08-18T18:15:49 < Tectu> that's all that comes to my mind right now 2016-08-18T18:19:28 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T18:21:36 < karlp> Ecco: you can use http://palmtree.beeroclock.net/~karlp/oocd/trace-helpers.cfg to get PC sampling. 2016-08-18T18:21:49 < karlp> or exception/irq tracining, 2016-08-18T18:22:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T18:22:46 < karlp> if I have something in particular, I currently use a dedicated ITM port and use DWT_CYCCNT to write out the duractions, I'm not cool enough to configure it to automatically timestamp the events for me. 2016-08-18T18:23:36 < karlp> both of tectu's links from keil require a debugger (and a target!) with ETM support 2016-08-18T18:23:41 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-18T18:23:48 < Laurenceb> holy shit 2016-08-18T18:23:49 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bzlUoAOpiak 2016-08-18T18:28:14 < Tectu> karlp, yep, I should have mentioned that :) 2016-08-18T18:28:24 < Tectu> karlp, I'm gonna bookmark that link 2016-08-18T18:30:04 < karlp> realy needs a blog post about it.... one day... 2016-08-18T18:31:58 < Tectu> agreed 2016-08-18T18:34:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T18:34:19 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@95.143.165.210] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T18:44:31 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@95.143.165.210] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-18T18:51:43 < ReadError> http://imgur.com/gallery/yDF6ccT murica 2016-08-18T18:53:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T18:55:52 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-18T19:01:59 < Laurenceb> rabia https://i.sli.mg/tJEPaD.jpg 2016-08-18T19:15:34 < Tectu> putting two diodes in parallel is a bad idea, no? Like one will get slighly more load, head up, lower resistance and get even more load... ? 2016-08-18T19:17:26 < BrainDamage> "yes", howrever, a small resistor in series will help linearize things and avoid blowing things up 2016-08-18T19:19:49 < upgrdman> if you have "foo % 10", would you say foo modulo'd to 10? like what is the word to use. 2016-08-18T19:20:13 < Rickta59> what is foo + 10 ? 2016-08-18T19:20:14 < englishman> foo mod ten 2016-08-18T19:20:15 < englishman> ? 2016-08-18T19:20:28 < Rickta59> i would say just foo modulo 10 2016-08-18T19:20:50 < englishman> unless you are a RPN nerd 2016-08-18T19:20:51 < englishman> like zyp 2016-08-18T19:20:59 < Rob235> modulo or modulus? 2016-08-18T19:24:52 < englishman> https://i.sli.mg/2LPipU.jpg 2016-08-18T19:25:53 < Tectu> portrait of Laurenceb's mind? 2016-08-18T19:26:21 < Laurenceb> I see jpeg bomb 2016-08-18T19:28:39 < Laurenceb> https://8ch.net/pol/thumb/1471536346651-3.jpg 2016-08-18T19:31:55 < kakimir> hello Laurenceb 2016-08-18T19:32:18 < kakimir> been busy I see 2016-08-18T19:33:39 < Laurenceb> in the deep and dank meme mine 2016-08-18T19:35:38 -!- ka6sox is now known as zz_ka6sox 2016-08-18T19:36:35 < kakimir> Laurenceb - light side or dark side? 2016-08-18T19:36:41 < Tectu> are those two-component epoxy things usually electrical isolating? 2016-08-18T19:36:49 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-18T19:36:54 < Tectu> doesn't state anything on the package 2016-08-18T19:37:00 < Tectu> Laurenceb, was that 'yes' for my question? 2016-08-18T19:37:06 < Laurenceb> yes- its a polymer 2016-08-18T19:37:09 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T19:37:19 < Tectu> thanks Mr. Laurenceb o/ 2016-08-18T19:39:23 < upgrdman> Tectu, make sure the epoxy isnt black 2016-08-18T19:39:34 < Tectu> BrainDamage, thanks for the answer. I am currently looking at the DC input stage of a phillips CD player/radio/MP3 thingy. They have two diodes in parallel on the positive pin of the DC jack for polarity protection w/o any resistor 2016-08-18T19:39:42 < Tectu> upgrdman, are you kidding or serious? 2016-08-18T19:39:50 < kakimir> Tectu: are you planning to do some fills? 2016-08-18T19:39:55 < Laurenceb> Tectu: its unlikely to break 2016-08-18T19:39:57 < upgrdman> the black versions sometimes has carbon powder in it, and it makes the epoxy more abrasion resistant 2016-08-18T19:39:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.11.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T19:40:01 < upgrdman> not kidding 2016-08-18T19:40:08 < Tectu> oh 2016-08-18T19:40:28 < upgrdman> but that rare to see unless you buy epoxy marketed at mold makers, etc. 2016-08-18T19:40:41 < Tectu> well this is clear epoxy. Or yellow-ish or white-ish, whatever. Also it states on the packaging that it's super suitable for sanding afterwards so I guess it's non-abrasion resistant by design 2016-08-18T19:40:55 < upgrdman> ya, that should be fine 2016-08-18T19:41:06 < Tectu> great 2016-08-18T19:41:06 < upgrdman> DMM on test piece will confirm :) 2016-08-18T19:41:22 < Tectu> I feel like should have checked that before I poured half a liter of that stuff over a PCB :p 2016-08-18T19:41:30 < upgrdman> :) 2016-08-18T19:41:37 < Tectu> "test piece"... :p 2016-08-18T19:41:39 < upgrdman> potting? 2016-08-18T19:43:18 < Tectu> nah. a good friend bought his kid some phillips az3856. kiddo knocked it over from the top of a bunk-bed while DC cable jack thing plugged in. That split the PCB of the PSU where the DJ jack connector is soldered on in half - but length wise (or "plane wise"? what's the english term? It created basically a new layer). Now trying to fix things cuz the thing is like a week old. 2016-08-18T19:43:44 < Tectu> and by a liter I obviously meant like one or two cubic centimeter[s]? :p 2016-08-18T19:43:57 < upgrdman> ah ok 2016-08-18T19:46:52 < Tectu> this stuff seems pretty awesome 2016-08-18T19:49:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T19:50:51 < upgrdman> epoxy. can't explain that. /meme 2016-08-18T19:51:08 < Sync> wat 2016-08-18T19:51:15 < karlp> Tectu: are the two diodes actually in parallel, or does one go up and one down? 2016-08-18T19:52:03 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-18T19:52:18 < Tectu> karlp, they are totally in parallel. no doubt. next to each other sharing the same thick trace on both ends. 2016-08-18T19:52:28 < Tectu> karlp, this thing doesn't do "multi polarity" or whatever that is called 2016-08-18T19:52:32 < Tectu> bidirectional DC supply? :p 2016-08-18T19:53:01 < karlp> oh yar, this is your dc input, not some other pin with ghetto overvoltage diodes. 2016-08-18T19:54:40 < Sync> for a pos consumer dc input that should be fine 2016-08-18T19:55:30 < upgrdman> whats the name for the region of a chart that is the actual chart? like excluding the axis labels, legends, etc. is it "plot" ? 2016-08-18T19:55:52 < Tectu> graph area? 2016-08-18T19:56:06 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-08-18T19:56:29 < Tectu> viewport? :p 2016-08-18T20:02:51 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T20:04:07 < Steffanx> it's called the plot area upgrdman 2016-08-18T20:04:34 < upgrdman> i thought plot implied points 2016-08-18T20:04:40 < upgrdman> e.g. there no such thing as a pie plot 2016-08-18T20:04:57 < Tectu> Actually, you have a point there 2016-08-18T20:05:27 < upgrdman> fuck it, i'll just call it "chartRegion" and the whole thing "chartImage" 2016-08-18T20:09:58 < Steffanx> going to do a charting lib yourself upgrdman? 2016-08-18T20:13:49 < ReadMobl> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jhCMNhu9/image.JPG 2016-08-18T20:14:40 < upgrdman> Steffanx, reluctantly, yes 2016-08-18T20:14:46 < BrainDamage> sounds like upgrdman is going to ( •_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) uncharted territory 2016-08-18T20:14:50 < upgrdman> could find any gpu-accelerate chart libs for java 2016-08-18T20:14:55 * upgrdman nods 2016-08-18T20:15:01 < upgrdman> s/could/couldnt 2016-08-18T20:15:17 < Steffanx> You really need that/ 2016-08-18T20:15:25 < upgrdman> im already >10x faster than jfreechart for my specific application 2016-08-18T20:15:46 < upgrdman> like 18-21ms per frame down to 1-2ms 2016-08-18T20:19:30 < upgrdman> also, now the cpu stays cools 2016-08-18T20:20:29 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYBxwzgOm2I 2016-08-18T20:21:32 < upgrdman> is that for when kak is gonna bike down some mountain for a few hours? 2016-08-18T20:21:41 < upgrdman> rides your brakes until they glow. 2016-08-18T20:23:00 < Sync> glowing brakes ftw 2016-08-18T20:23:33 < kakimir> I bet in downhill you can get dim glow to disc 2016-08-18T20:30:27 < BrainDamage> i did manage to overheat disk brakes 2016-08-18T20:32:34 < Tectu> what causes those two "pulses" of smoke at 04:05? 2016-08-18T20:32:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T20:39:35 < karlp> that's leftover hydraulic oil burning off I guess? 2016-08-18T20:41:14 < kakimir> it oscillates air in gases out 2016-08-18T20:41:33 < Tectu> oh, interesting 2016-08-18T20:51:19 < Sync> happens all the time BrainDamage 2016-08-18T20:51:27 < BrainDamage> with a mountain bike? 2016-08-18T20:51:57 < Sync> depending on the downhill, yes 2016-08-18T20:52:32 < BrainDamage> the real annoying part was that i had to bleed the hydraulic circuit after, it created plenty of bubbles in the lines 2016-08-18T20:53:22 < Sync> yeah 2016-08-18T20:53:47 < karlp> this is why you have wire pull ;) 2016-08-18T20:54:00 < Sync> no. 2016-08-18T20:54:17 < BrainDamage> mtb bowden cable brakes suck, for one, one of the pads is fixed and they only pull the other 2016-08-18T20:54:29 < BrainDamage> moreover, they have considerable slack in the actuation 2016-08-18T20:56:08 < Tectu> BrainDamage, what's the issue/problem with the fact that just one pad moves? slight deformation of the disk? 2016-08-18T20:56:37 < BrainDamage> uneven wear, you need to periodically swap the pads 2016-08-18T20:56:59 < BrainDamage> and it's the pads that wear out, not the disk 2016-08-18T20:57:19 < Tectu> best brakes: http://pad1.whstatic.com/images/thumb/d/d5/Fix-Brakes-on-a-Bike-Step-1-Version-2.jpg/728px-Fix-Brakes-on-a-Bike-Step-1-Version-2.jpg 2016-08-18T20:57:20 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-18T20:57:21 < Sync> that depends on the application 2016-08-18T20:57:37 < BrainDamage> it's also more sensitive to slight wobbles in the disk 2016-08-18T20:57:41 < Sync> I wear out discs as fast as the pas lasts 2016-08-18T20:58:02 < Tectu> how does the fact that just one pad moves create uneven wear? 2016-08-18T20:58:39 < Sync> the disc has to flex if it is n9t a floatimg caliper 2016-08-18T20:58:41 < BrainDamage> because of the disk flexibility you'll have uneven reaction force on the 2 sides 2016-08-18T20:59:20 < BrainDamage> if the disk wouldn't flex, the other pad wouldn't be touched at all 2016-08-18T20:59:25 < Tectu> yeah 2016-08-18T20:59:26 < Tectu> makes sense 2016-08-18T20:59:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T20:59:59 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T21:13:42 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nJLa3hAB2Lc 2016-08-18T21:19:35 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T21:19:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T21:23:54 < Rob235> woop woop, gettin the hex packed up 2016-08-18T21:24:49 < Rob235> sky has cleared up a bit 2016-08-18T21:27:48 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.204] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T21:31:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T21:31:03 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T21:44:31 < englishman> have you already hovered it? 2016-08-18T21:46:15 < upgrdman> how long do bike brakes last? 1000km ? 2016-08-18T21:46:45 < Sync> mine last quite long, probably more like 10000km 2016-08-18T21:46:48 < upgrdman> i dont think i ever work out the brakes on my bike, but i only rode it maybe 2km a day for 4yrs 2016-08-18T21:46:50 < Sync> at least on my city bitch 2016-08-18T21:47:13 < Tectu> sync, you cap pro, what does the x2 mean? http://images.wasted.earth:1339/uploads/big/8a32c607cdaa6c4ba8e0e2b84bbb10dc.jpg 2016-08-18T21:47:14 < upgrdman> ya so 10Mm on a bike is a fuck ton. 2016-08-18T21:47:28 < Sync> Tectu: failure rating 2016-08-18T21:48:05 < Sync> http://www.justradios.com/safetytips.html 2016-08-18T21:48:27 < Tectu> thx 2016-08-18T21:48:34 < Tectu> Sync, is that a polyester or a paper/metal cap? 2016-08-18T21:49:06 < Tectu> It's in parallel of the potentiometer of the food petal of an old sewing machine. 2016-08-18T21:49:23 < Tectu> the potentiometer is just in line with the motor. that cap blew. stuff broken now. 2016-08-18T21:50:45 < englishman> real men ride fixies/pennyfarthings 2016-08-18T21:51:26 < Sync> fixie ftw 2016-08-18T21:51:29 < Sync> dem torques 2016-08-18T21:52:27 < Sync> ah good old rifa cap Tectu 2016-08-18T21:52:36 < Sync> that is metalized foil 2016-08-18T21:52:46 < Sync> but you can put any x2 cap in there 2016-08-18T21:53:03 < Tectu> Sync, why doesn't distrelec know about that x2 thing? 2016-08-18T21:53:38 < BrainDamage> remember it's not a real fixe if you don't have a ratchet in the hub so that if you go out of sync with the wheel speed you'll get the pedals slamming hard into your calves 2016-08-18T21:54:05 < Sync> it does Tectu 2016-08-18T21:54:05 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T21:54:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T21:54:30 < Sync> BrainDamage: obviously. 2016-08-18T21:54:33 < Sync> that is what fixie means 2016-08-18T21:54:44 < BrainDamage> here they sell fixies with ratchets 2016-08-18T21:54:54 < Sync> http://www.distrelec.de/en/x2-capacitor-uf-305-vac-epcos-b32922c3104m000/p/30067060?q=x2&filter_Category3=Capacitors&page=1&origPos=7&origPageSize=25&simi=97.47 2016-08-18T21:54:57 < Sync> get dis shits mr Tectu 2016-08-18T21:55:38 < Tectu> Sync, this seems to be a close match? http://www.distrelec.ch/en/capacitor-uf-630-vdc-300-ac-20-mm-kemet-pme261ec6100kr30/p/11040168?q=*&filter_Category3=Capacitors&filter_Category5=Metal%2FPaper+Capacitors&filter_Category4=Foil+Capacitors&filter_Capacitance~~%C2%B5F=0.1+%C2%B5F&filter_Buyable=1&page=1&origPageSize=25&simi=97.3 2016-08-18T21:56:14 < Tectu> Sync, I am somewhat locked to the dimensions. it fits in some figure socket thingy 2016-08-18T21:56:29 < Tectu> Sync, the one I linked has the same dimensions. but I don't see x2 anywhere. not even in the datasheet 2016-08-18T21:56:43 < Tectu> Sync, also, it says rifa on the image - what you mentioned before :p 2016-08-18T22:00:11 -!- zz_ka6sox is now known as ka6sox 2016-08-18T22:02:16 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T22:02:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T22:02:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-18T22:07:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T22:07:46 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T22:09:37 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.11.33] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-18T22:12:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.11.33] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T22:15:41 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T22:15:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-18T22:17:37 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-18T22:29:33 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T22:32:39 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-18T22:33:45 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T22:34:26 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T22:39:34 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T22:41:46 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T23:24:54 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T23:35:46 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-18T23:36:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:d5a7:d8d6:4b0e:586c] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T23:49:50 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T23:49:50 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-18T23:49:50 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-18T23:54:02 < jadew> anyone with a recent VS 2015 install willing to compile a small testcase? 2016-08-18T23:54:27 < Tectu> I will have to install VS this weekend... 2016-08-18T23:54:33 < Tectu> (don't have right now) 2016-08-18T23:54:43 < Tectu> so if you are patient... 2016-08-18T23:54:51 < jadew> can't wait that long :) 2016-08-18T23:55:05 < jadew> I was considering installing a new version now, if it fixed the issue 2016-08-18T23:55:07 < jadew> http://ideone.com/Gy7PJQ 2016-08-18T23:55:16 < Tectu> can't help then, sorry :( 2016-08-18T23:55:21 < jadew> that's the code, it should keep timing out 2016-08-18T23:55:24 < jadew> np 2016-08-18T23:55:47 < zyp> who was it talking about the CRS thing for crystalless usb the other day? 2016-08-18T23:56:15 < jadew> I think dongs said something about running something without a crystal 2016-08-18T23:56:39 < zyp> sure, sure, I already have a board designed that does that 2016-08-18T23:56:51 < zyp> just curious if anybody got experience configuring the CRS 2016-08-18T23:57:11 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-18T23:58:47 < jadew> dongs, what VS version do you have? something bigger than 14.0.24720 Update 1? 2016-08-18T23:59:32 < jadew> I wish it had a "check for updates" button --- Day changed Fri Aug 19 2016 2016-08-19T00:03:24 < zyp> hmm, looks like the default config for the CRS is set up for USB operation 2016-08-19T00:09:08 < karlp> pretty sure I had to set a bit to make it work 2016-08-19T00:10:07 < zyp> poking at it in gdb now, looks like setting CEN and AUTOTRIMEN is all there's to it 2016-08-19T00:12:28 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.84.11.33] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-19T00:15:49 < zyp> heh, it went up two steps from default when I enabled autotrim 2016-08-19T00:16:03 < zyp> looks like putting my finger on the chip makes it go up a third 2016-08-19T00:17:12 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-33-11-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T00:17:40 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-19T00:20:42 < jadew> looks like I'm two updates behind 2016-08-19T00:22:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-33-11-84-93.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-19T00:23:05 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T00:23:05 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@c-569672d5.022-26-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-19T00:23:05 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T00:32:25 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T00:32:36 < Laurenceb__> now I see why dongs doesnt use mylar solder stencils 2016-08-19T00:32:52 < Laurenceb__> way too much rework required on my horsey panels :S 2016-08-19T00:33:39 < englishman> 🐎 2016-08-19T00:34:14 < Laurenceb__> LSM9DS1 still not reflowing perfectly :( 2016-08-19T00:34:23 < Laurenceb__> but way better than last time 2016-08-19T00:35:50 < Laurenceb__> need an x-ray machine to work this shit out 2016-08-19T00:36:09 < englishman> lga can be tuff 2016-08-19T00:40:35 < Laurenceb__> I think 150µm stencil as opposed to 125 might help 2016-08-19T00:41:53 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-19T00:51:17 < karlp> zyp: yeah, but I mean, you have to set CEN and AUTOTRIMEN, it's not default like that :) 2016-08-19T00:51:56 < zyp> yes, but the source mux and all counter regs defautls to appropriate values 2016-08-19T00:52:27 < zyp> already got that code confirmed working and committed, working on other stuff now :p 2016-08-19T01:20:30 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T01:26:33 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T01:55:24 < kuldeep> im using at STM32F0 {72} it seems like it cannot be determined if slave acknowledged or not when in master receiver mode. 2016-08-19T01:55:31 < kuldeep> s/at// 2016-08-19T01:57:56 < kuldeep> (also, the documentation do not mention I2C_ISR_NACKF in master receiver mode diagram like it does in master transmitter mode) 2016-08-19T02:04:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-19T02:07:18 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:08:20 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T02:12:25 < Tectu> hi R2COM 2016-08-19T02:12:54 < Tectu> not much, cleaning up code 2016-08-19T02:18:10 < Tectu> no, contributed code 2016-08-19T02:20:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:21:30 < upgrdman> lolwut 2016-08-19T02:24:31 < jadew> ffs.. I spent a couple of hours updating VS and the condition_variable is still screwed up 2016-08-19T02:24:44 < jadew> they have tons of bug reports on it dating back from last year 2016-08-19T02:26:30 < Tectu> sorry to hear that jadew 2016-08-19T02:27:07 < jadew> :) 2016-08-19T02:27:15 < jadew> it's the STL that's broken I think 2016-08-19T02:27:20 < jadew> I'll just use the one from boost 2016-08-19T02:29:19 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:30:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:30:17 < Rob235> yea so... it didn't fly :) 2016-08-19T02:30:34 < jadew> what happened? 2016-08-19T02:31:13 < jadew> looks like boost suffers from the same issue 2016-08-19T02:31:13 < Rob235> i'll post vid when my gf gets back, she used her phone. I think my pid values may have just been too low? it kinda just looked like it wasn't sure what to do until it flopped over 2016-08-19T02:31:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-19T02:31:45 < Rob235> in the air, not on ground 2016-08-19T02:31:53 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-19T02:31:58 < Rob235> broke 6 props total 2016-08-19T02:32:10 < jadew> be careful with that, you don't want to lose your gf 2016-08-19T02:32:26 < Rob235> yea we stayed back 2016-08-19T02:32:40 < Rob235> cutoff switch worked well :) 2016-08-19T02:33:42 < jadew> he prepared that while you were away 2016-08-19T02:34:13 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:34:36 < jadew> you know... those things can be hacked 2016-08-19T02:34:47 < jadew> you could kill someone like that and nobody would realize it was a murder 2016-08-19T02:35:31 < jadew> oh, you don't have to get to it 2016-08-19T02:35:34 < jadew> you can do it from the bushes 2016-08-19T02:35:40 < jadew> all you need is a higher power remote 2016-08-19T02:35:44 < jadew> to take over it 2016-08-19T02:36:08 < jadew> yeah :D 2016-08-19T02:36:18 < Rob235> my batteries kinda got busted too :( they are misshapen now, do they need to be trashed? 2016-08-19T02:36:24 < jadew> there are lots of them that can easily be hacked 2016-08-19T02:36:46 < jadew> + communication must be one way, so you can record whatever that remote is sending 2016-08-19T02:36:55 < jadew> make a little program that collects all the commands 2016-08-19T02:36:57 < jadew> then you take over 2016-08-19T02:37:06 < jadew> and before landing, bam, heli to the head 2016-08-19T02:37:18 < jadew> you don't need to know the code 2016-08-19T02:37:22 < jadew> you just send whatever he's sending 2016-08-19T02:37:46 < jadew> I be this happened 2016-08-19T02:37:55 < jadew> not in that case, but I'm sure it happened to someone 2016-08-19T02:38:20 < jadew> new kind of terrorism 2016-08-19T02:38:26 < jadew> toy plane hijacking 2016-08-19T02:40:14 < jadew> it's why I'm not getting a drone 2016-08-19T02:40:43 < upgrdman_> screenshots? 2016-08-19T02:40:50 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2016-08-19T02:42:08 < upgrdman> looks nice but dont think i found would strategy very fun 2016-08-19T02:42:29 < jadew> www.ibtimes.co.uk/police-drones-can-be-hacked-stolen-2km-away-by-hijacking-board-chips-1553122 2016-08-19T02:43:01 < upgrdman> ya i dont find that very fun 2016-08-19T02:43:07 < englishman> professional-grade XBee 2016-08-19T02:43:09 < englishman> Rofflll 2016-08-19T02:43:20 < englishman> Nice one jadew 2016-08-19T02:43:27 < englishman> What an awful article 2016-08-19T02:43:55 < jadew> didn't read it, apparently some use one of those nordic chips 2016-08-19T02:43:56 < Tectu> jadew, how come that thing costs 30k USD? 2016-08-19T02:44:02 < jadew> for 2.4 GHz 2016-08-19T02:44:05 < Tectu> jadew, I would understand 10k but 30k seems like... 2016-08-19T02:44:09 < zyp> heh, flash word write on L0 is slow as fuck 2016-08-19T02:44:11 < jadew> and those are also easy to intercept 2016-08-19T02:44:19 < dongs> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-meeting/2016-August/000014.html 2016-08-19T02:44:36 < zyp> I get like 1.13kB/s 2016-08-19T02:44:37 < englishman> Tectu: pro shit can sell for much more. And they are still off the shelf hobby parts. 2016-08-19T02:44:56 < jadew> Tectu, it's the government 2016-08-19T02:44:57 < Tectu> lol @ dongs 2016-08-19T02:44:59 < zyp> half-page write doesn't work when it's executing from flash 2016-08-19T02:45:11 < zyp> and I think I'm too lazy to do something about that 2016-08-19T02:45:16 < Tectu> englishman, yeah that is why I was wondering. do they just rebatch hobby shit? 2016-08-19T02:45:37 < dongs> jadew: i clean installed 2015 update3 iso 2016-08-19T02:45:37 < Tectu> hi crt, how is you? 2016-08-19T02:45:49 < dongs> en_visual_studio_professional_2015_with_update_3_x86_x64_dvd_8923272.iso 2016-08-19T02:45:53 < englishman> Tectu: ya 2016-08-19T02:46:10 < dongs> jadew: so my shit is 14.0.25425 Update 3 2016-08-19T02:46:17 < jadew> dongs, yeah, I upgraded to update 3 now 2016-08-19T02:46:19 < Tectu> crt, apparently we banned FPV 2016-08-19T02:46:22 < jadew> didn't solve my issue tho 2016-08-19T02:46:31 < Tectu> englishman, sounds like a business one should get into 2016-08-19T02:46:44 < englishman> not a bit 2016-08-19T02:46:55 < dongs> what was "teh issue" 2016-08-19T02:47:20 < jadew> condition_variable.wait_for() returns random results based on nothing 2016-08-19T02:47:33 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:47:41 < jadew> http://ideone.com/Gy7PJQ 2016-08-19T02:47:48 < jadew> that thing should only say "timeout" 2016-08-19T02:47:58 < Tectu> crt, do you guys use imperial crap or metric stuff over there on that island? 2016-08-19T02:48:23 < dongs> wat the fuck 2016-08-19T02:48:26 < dongs> C++ has mutex and shit now? 2016-08-19T02:48:31 < jadew> yeah hehe 2016-08-19T02:48:41 < jadew> from boost btw 2016-08-19T02:48:55 < jadew> lots of that stuff got imported into the STL 2016-08-19T02:49:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-19T02:49:11 < Tectu> STL is basically delayed boost 2016-08-19T02:49:16 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-19T02:49:20 < Tectu> boost is experimental STL :p 2016-08-19T02:51:27 < Tectu> crt, 50 2016-08-19T02:51:34 < Tectu> crt, Brisbane 2016-08-19T02:51:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:52:03 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-19T02:53:17 < Tectu> crt, so you don't know whether they use metric or imperial units? Wouldn't that be a country-wide thing? 2016-08-19T02:55:47 < Tectu> it answers my question :p 2016-08-19T02:55:59 < Tectu> > OF COURSE we use metric. that. :p 2016-08-19T02:57:08 < Tectu> It is, thanks. 2016-08-19T02:59:08 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T02:59:31 < Rob235> someone buy me some more props please 2016-08-19T02:59:43 < Rob235> thanks 2016-08-19T02:59:45 < Tectu> Rob235, how much money are we talking about? 2016-08-19T02:59:54 < Rob235> $30 USD? 2016-08-19T03:00:17 < Tectu> nah, sorry. 2016-08-19T03:00:20 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-19T03:00:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-19T03:00:37 < Rob235> I don't know if these batteries are dangerous/any good now 2016-08-19T03:00:59 < Rob235> I think I forgot to lock the landing gear :( or the lock just sucks 2016-08-19T03:05:45 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T03:05:49 < Tectu> Rob235, so is your thing flying now? :) 2016-08-19T03:05:57 < Tectu> last update I got was blinking virtual processing LEDs 2016-08-19T03:06:36 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T03:06:45 -!- upgrdman__ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-19T03:06:47 < Rob235> just tried for the first time today, I think my pid were way too low, I have to find a better way to try, I broke a lot of props and possibly my batteries :( 2016-08-19T03:07:08 < Tectu> uhm... wouldn't you make some sort of "fixed" flight first? 2016-08-19T03:07:13 < Tectu> also, tons of matlab simulations? 2016-08-19T03:07:13 < Rob235> it got in the air a few tiems but never hovered 2016-08-19T03:07:28 < Tectu> well that's what happens when I throw a stone. No need for any STM32 there :p 2016-08-19T03:08:13 < Rob235> I thought I set pid high enough to do what needed to be done but obviously not. I'll create something fixed to figure out gains 2016-08-19T03:08:16 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T03:08:28 < Tectu> but I'm curious now... I thought that when you are adding LEDs and stuff the flight part is already working? Why would you put tons of LEDs on something that isn't flying yet? 2016-08-19T03:08:43 < Tectu> "set PID high enough"? 2016-08-19T03:08:57 < Rob235> to do all the wiring at once 2016-08-19T03:09:20 < Tectu> ok 2016-08-19T03:09:24 < Tectu> can I get a pic of the full thing? 2016-08-19T03:09:33 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-19T03:10:14 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/KDBHyoK 2016-08-19T03:10:34 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/6hJVZR8 2016-08-19T03:10:42 < Tectu> that's looking nice 2016-08-19T03:10:52 < Rob235> thanks 2016-08-19T03:11:13 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/a/WzBY9 2016-08-19T03:11:15 < Rob235> full album if curious 2016-08-19T03:11:33 < Tectu> how much payload can that thing lift? I have no idea about copters and stuff but that thing looks beefy 2016-08-19T03:12:03 < Rob235> yea I'm sure a decent amount. I'm actually waiting on a bathroom scale so I can weigh it and use ecalc to figure stuff like that out 2016-08-19T03:12:33 < Tectu> oooh, those arms even fold in, nice! 2016-08-19T03:13:18 < Rob235> yea, that helps with one this size 2016-08-19T03:13:35 < Tectu> getting back to what jadew posted earlier: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/police-drones-can-be-hacked-stolen-2km-away-by-hijacking-board-chips-1553122 2016-08-19T03:13:47 < Tectu> looks like that thing is not completely symmetrical. How come? 2016-08-19T03:13:52 < Tectu> englishman, insights? 2016-08-19T03:14:01 < Tectu> is it designed to be "front heavy" for some reason? 2016-08-19T03:14:23 < zyp> to keep the arms out of the camera view, probably 2016-08-19T03:14:48 < zyp> it's not front heavy, battery would be placed far enough back to even it out 2016-08-19T03:14:48 < jadew> it's probably to fix the center of gravity 2016-08-19T03:14:57 < Tectu> well you wouldn't point the camera upwards, I guess 2016-08-19T03:15:07 < jadew> ah, you said that, nvm 2016-08-19T03:15:23 < zyp> Tectu, but it probably has a pretty wide lens 2016-08-19T03:15:29 < Tectu> oh, that thing even has two props per motor! 2016-08-19T03:15:36 < Tectu> zyp, ah, makes sense 2016-08-19T03:15:38 < zyp> no, two motors per arm 2016-08-19T03:15:41 < zyp> it's an X8 2016-08-19T03:16:04 < Tectu> uh 2016-08-19T03:16:28 < zyp> redundancy 2016-08-19T03:16:38 < Tectu> aah! 2016-08-19T03:16:44 < Tectu> I was just about to ask whether that's better than one bigger 2016-08-19T03:16:52 < zyp> a quad can't fly on three motors, an X8 could fly on 4, depending on which 4 2016-08-19T03:17:13 < Tectu> so it can fly with just four (one per arm), but in regular mode the two motors on the same arm are both going 50%? 2016-08-19T03:17:27 < Tectu> or probably aerodynamics don't scale linearly :p 2016-08-19T03:18:39 < zyp> I think lower prop is usually steeper since it would be pushing on already moving air 2016-08-19T03:18:45 < zyp> or rather, faster moving air 2016-08-19T03:19:11 < Tectu> so how likely is motor failure on these things? 2016-08-19T03:19:36 < zyp> probably less likely than a prop breaking 2016-08-19T03:19:47 < zyp> but a motor without a prop is useless 2016-08-19T03:20:12 < Tectu> that's how Rob235 must feel :( 2016-08-19T03:20:35 < Tectu> how are those props mounted? are they just press fitted or do pro-models use threads and stuff? 2016-08-19T03:22:04 < zyp> idk, all motors I've seen have a threaded shaft and nut 2016-08-19T03:23:53 < dongs> wat 2016-08-19T03:23:55 < dongs> tectu is 50? 2016-08-19T03:23:58 < dongs> I thought he was like 13 2016-08-19T03:24:14 < Tectu> clearly you were having wrong information 2016-08-19T03:24:18 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-19T03:27:25 < dongs> http://www.nxp.com/documents/application_note/AN11775.pdf page 18 attn karlp 2016-08-19T03:29:49 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/iysm7junz6gx.jpg 2016-08-19T03:31:30 < Tectu> so many questions... 2016-08-19T03:31:45 < upgrdman> indeed 2016-08-19T03:46:47 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-19T03:49:54 < Tectu> talk to Rob235 2016-08-19T03:57:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-19T04:02:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:d5a7:d8d6:4b0e:586c] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-19T04:02:31 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T04:02:41 < upgrdman> damn old people http://i.imgur.com/Wpy4XPP.gifv 2016-08-19T04:04:38 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T04:15:18 < upgrdman> sadly no 2016-08-19T04:15:58 < karlp> dongs: lucky I cam back at the right time, irssi didn't seem to highlihght me with the nick at the end of the line or something 2016-08-19T04:17:14 < karlp> dongs: also, what part of page 18, and in reference to what? 2016-08-19T04:17:23 < karlp> you suggesting big complicated esd protection systems? 2016-08-19T04:31:03 < dongs> hm, no, pdf page 18 maybe4 its different from whatever rht fuck nxp marked 2016-08-19T04:31:05 < englishman> Tectu: front arms are wider usually to keep the props out of cameras view. 2016-08-19T04:31:19 < englishman> Props are simply bolted on. 2016-08-19T04:31:26 < dongs> karlp: fig .10 2016-08-19T04:46:57 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-19T04:48:33 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-19T04:59:58 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T05:01:27 < dongs> looks totally OK 2016-08-19T05:01:52 < PeterM> http://i.imgur.com/ImQRB.jpg 2016-08-19T05:19:10 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/IKgvhnP 2016-08-19T05:20:10 < dongs> cross platform faggotry detected 2016-08-19T05:20:28 < upgrdman> not my pic, but lul 2016-08-19T05:21:21 < upgrdman> if at first you dont succeed https://i.redd.it/zic5mo4lnwfx.png 2016-08-19T05:45:41 < dongs> funroll-loops 2016-08-19T06:00:13 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-19T06:34:34 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-19T06:35:17 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T06:51:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T06:52:15 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/bBulKne_R7c :/ 2016-08-19T07:00:57 < Rob235> yea gotta ramp it up 2016-08-19T07:07:08 < ReadError> damn Rob235 2016-08-19T07:07:27 < ReadError> what broke 2016-08-19T07:07:35 < Rob235> few props 2016-08-19T07:07:48 < Rob235> possibly batteries... 2016-08-19T07:07:53 < ReadError> smell them 2016-08-19T07:08:00 < ReadError> if they smell sweet toss them 2016-08-19T07:09:10 < Rob235> no smell 2016-08-19T07:10:21 < ReadError> its fine then 2016-08-19T07:10:37 < ReadError> dents and stuff not a big deal 2016-08-19T07:10:38 < Rob235> even if one is kinda twisted 2016-08-19T07:10:55 < ReadError> ya its just foil pouches 2016-08-19T07:11:00 < Rob235> ok cool 2016-08-19T07:11:07 < ReadError> watch cell balance 2016-08-19T07:11:10 < ReadError> and you should be fine 2016-08-19T07:11:55 < Rob235> I don't like how the battery mount came off so easily 2016-08-19T07:12:14 < Rob235> well maybe that wasn't 'so easily' 2016-08-19T07:12:26 < ReadError> kinda good 2016-08-19T07:12:31 < ReadError> saved your frame probably 2016-08-19T07:13:03 < Rob235> the fact that the arms fold probably help them from breaking also 2016-08-19T07:13:41 < Rob235> that was fun though, even if it was a stupid idea :) 2016-08-19T07:14:12 < ReadError> get.something.smaller 2016-08-19T07:14:25 < ReadError> easier to test 2016-08-19T07:14:29 < ReadError> holds up better 2016-08-19T07:14:32 < ReadError> cheap as shit parts 2016-08-19T07:14:44 < ReadError> and wont require as many stitches 2016-08-19T07:14:59 < Rob235> its not testing, its tuning, which would still have to be done for the hex... I just had my constants way too low (I hope) 2016-08-19T07:30:43 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T07:37:52 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-19T07:42:09 < dongs> fuck. 2016-08-19T07:42:26 < dongs> amazon dash button ver02 uses fucking cypress RF and TARDUINO 2016-08-19T07:42:35 < dongs> throwing that shit away in the garbage right now 2016-08-19T07:42:42 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T07:49:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T07:50:24 < dongs> huh weird 2016-08-19T07:50:27 < dongs> it also has http://www.atmel.com/devices/ATWINC1500.aspx 2016-08-19T07:50:53 < dongs> $8 wifi SoC from atmel 2016-08-19T07:50:57 < jadew> wow 2016-08-19T07:50:57 < dongs> didnt know t hat even existed 2016-08-19T07:50:57 < jadew> nice 2016-08-19T07:59:46 < dongs> huh 2016-08-19T07:59:51 < dongs> that atsamg55 doesnt look bad? 2016-08-19T07:59:52 < dongs> is that new? wtf 2016-08-19T07:59:58 < dongs> http://www.atmel.com/devices/ATSAMG55.aspx 2016-08-19T08:00:06 < dongs> 120mhz M4F, 512k flash, 176k ram? 2016-08-19T08:00:13 < dongs> is atmel doing something right in 2016? 2016-08-19T08:00:23 < dongs> $3.5 @ 1k 2016-08-19T08:00:25 < dongs> which is not too bad? 2016-08-19T08:00:56 < jpa-> price seems good, otherwise sounds pretty average 2016-08-19T08:01:35 < dongs> oh like last year 2016-08-19T08:02:52 < dongs> Crystal-less USB 2.0 Device and USB Host OHCI with On-chip Transceive 2016-08-19T08:03:04 < dongs> 1 Pulse Density Modulation Interface (PDMIC) (supports up to two microphones) 2016-08-19T08:03:21 < dongs> One 8-channel ADC, resolution up to 12 bits, sampling rate up to 500 ksps lol fucking shitheads 2016-08-19T08:03:26 < dongs> atmel still sucks at adc 2016-08-19T08:03:55 < dongs> shitty timers too 2016-08-19T08:03:56 < dongs> k 2016-08-19T08:03:56 < dongs> boring 2016-08-19T08:06:15 < ReadError> lol 'jcore' 2016-08-19T08:06:27 < ReadError> 'japanese hardcore music mixed with DDR music' 2016-08-19T08:06:32 < ReadError> people still play ddr?? 2016-08-19T08:07:52 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jywza4So-eU 2016-08-19T08:09:05 < ReadError> https://youtu.be/jywza4So-eU?t=280 2016-08-19T08:09:10 < ReadError> this 2016-08-19T08:14:59 < ReadError> and you repair audio equipment? 2016-08-19T08:15:02 < ReadError> da fug 2016-08-19T09:03:37 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T09:06:33 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T09:08:46 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@130-229-6-203-dhcp.wlan.ki.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T09:08:54 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@130-229-6-203-dhcp.wlan.ki.se] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-19T09:08:54 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T09:28:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T09:40:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T09:51:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-19T09:53:13 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-19T10:04:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T10:23:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T10:35:28 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-19T10:36:20 < ReadError> https://github.com/hartator/wayback-machine-downloader neat 2016-08-19T10:54:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-19T10:59:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T11:00:53 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T11:15:24 < dongs> Ruby 100.0% 2016-08-19T11:15:28 < dongs> how about no. 2016-08-19T11:28:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-19T11:30:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.127] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T11:36:19 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T11:37:07 < kakimir> at least not php 2016-08-19T11:43:50 < ReadError> or PERL 2016-08-19T11:53:38 < Tectu> per <3 2016-08-19T11:55:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T11:58:15 < Tectu> perl* 2016-08-19T11:59:55 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T11:59:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-19T12:02:20 < scummos> apparently Tectu fell in love with regular expressions now 2016-08-19T12:03:14 < Tectu> yeah :D 2016-08-19T12:03:19 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T12:03:19 < Tectu> also, hi scummos o/ 2016-08-19T12:03:23 < scummos> hi \o 2016-08-19T12:03:53 < Tectu> How are you? 2016-08-19T12:04:12 < scummos> fine, mostly ... at work, also 2016-08-19T12:04:15 < scummos> you? 2016-08-19T12:05:24 < Tectu> same :) 2016-08-19T12:05:36 < Tectu> weekend \o/ 2016-08-19T12:15:34 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T12:19:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-19T12:37:05 < Ecco> I'd like to compute the theoretical time it would take to memcpy a buffer on an STM32 2016-08-19T12:37:14 < Ecco> How should I proceed? 2016-08-19T12:38:02 < Tectu> math! 2016-08-19T12:38:03 < jpa-> well, 32-bit processor can copy 4 bytes at a time 2016-08-19T12:38:15 < Tectu> (was was going to follow up, but then jpa- jumped in) 2016-08-19T12:38:45 < jpa-> to load it from RAM takes 1 clock cycle; to store it elsewhere takes 1 clock cycle; then incrementing stuff and jumping back takes some 2 clocks, depending on which cortex-Mx you are one 2016-08-19T12:38:48 < jpa-> *on 2016-08-19T12:39:28 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-19T12:39:31 < Ecco> makes sense 2016-08-19T12:39:35 < Ecco> so a rough idea 2016-08-19T12:39:46 < Ecco> would be 4 bytes copied = 4 cycles 2016-08-19T12:40:01 < Ecco> so at 8 MHz -> 8MB/sec? 2016-08-19T12:40:19 < jpa-> yeah, works as a rough approximation 2016-08-19T12:40:31 < Ecco> ok, great 2016-08-19T12:40:33 < Ecco> thanks :) 2016-08-19T12:41:14 < Tectu> jpa-, how does that look with the data- and instruction cache of the M7? Will it just add an initial overhead to flush the caches or is there more to it? 2016-08-19T12:41:16 < jpa-> DMA memory-to-memory mode is one option also, but at that point one might just rework the code so that no copying is needed 2016-08-19T12:41:38 < Ecco> indeed 2016-08-19T12:41:44 < jpa-> Tectu: why would you need to flush? 2016-08-19T12:42:42 < Tectu> jpa-, one needs to clear those caches if branching from somewhere, no? 2016-08-19T12:42:45 < Tectu> much like a pipeline? 2016-08-19T12:43:01 < jpa-> uh, why? 2016-08-19T12:43:12 < jpa-> caches are nothing like pipelines IMO 2016-08-19T12:43:33 < jpa-> and cortex-m7 has advanced enough branch prediction that most of the time you won't be flushing pipelines either 2016-08-19T12:43:42 < Tectu> prof mentioned something like that a while ago 2016-08-19T12:45:09 < jpa-> maybe that was to do with context switches on x86, which have to flush some of the caches to avoid having crap left over from another virtual memory mapping 2016-08-19T12:45:22 < jpa-> but cortex-m7 having no MMU, that's not an issue either 2016-08-19T12:46:48 < Steffanx> Tectu. You at work.. You also sleep at work. Cheater. 2016-08-19T12:49:10 < Tectu> jpa-, hmm... not exactly sure anymore 2016-08-19T12:49:12 < Tectu> Steffanx, lol 2016-08-19T12:51:20 < Steffanx> You mean when you're not here? ;) 2016-08-19T13:04:49 -!- lenovo_ is now known as _unreal_ 2016-08-19T13:10:02 < Ecco> Where should I look for the default frequency after reset? Is it in the ref man? 2016-08-19T13:10:34 < jpa-> yeah, though it's likely to be the 8MHz internal RC 2016-08-19T13:11:07 < jpa-> the reference manual lists reset values for each register 2016-08-19T13:11:27 < jpa-> so look under the RCC registers to see 2016-08-19T13:11:30 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-19T13:11:57 < karlp> there's an entire section on clocks too. 2016-08-19T13:12:13 < Ecco> "The HSI clock signal is generated from an internal 16 MHz RC oscillator and can be used directly as a system clock, or used as PLL input." 2016-08-19T13:12:27 < Ecco> ok, so all I have to figure out now is how/if this is divided at reset 2016-08-19T13:12:30 < Ecco> correct? 2016-08-19T13:12:50 < karlp> so, read the rest of the section you're already reading. 2016-08-19T13:25:18 < Tectu> the MCO pin, is that just a buffered PLL output? Is that thing as accurate as the clock inside the MCU as well? I still need to get a rev2 of a project done where there's an FPGA hooked up to an STM32. Would be nice to clock the FPGA from the STm32 2016-08-19T13:25:29 < Tectu> but I never looked into it 2016-08-19T13:26:26 < jpa-> yes, it is just a PLL output 2016-08-19T13:26:52 < jpa-> and what you describe will work, though may need to take into account the clock skew 2016-08-19T13:27:42 < Tectu> jpa-, thanks. That won't be an issue in this application 2016-08-19T13:28:20 < jpa-> uh, why not? 2016-08-19T13:30:19 < Tectu> because the fpga works somewhat independently from the STM32. the main job of the FPGA is to sequence through a dual-port RAM and output values afterwards. the STM32 is for the user interface and to fill in the RAM. So the FPGA and the STM32 don't need to be sync'd up. The reason I was thinking about the MCO is because taht seems to be an easy way to dynamically adjust the FPGA freq 2016-08-19T13:30:34 < jpa-> ok 2016-08-19T13:31:19 < Ecco> I still can't figure out how that STM32 is clocked after reset 2016-08-19T13:31:24 < Ecco> so the HSI is 16 MHz, ok 2016-08-19T13:31:31 < Tectu> Ecco, now check default values of PLL setup 2016-08-19T13:31:45 < Ecco> now I've looked at the RCC_PLLI2SCFGR register 2016-08-19T13:32:02 < Ecco> ha crap 2016-08-19T13:32:04 < jpa-> why PLLI2S? are you interested in I2S clock? 2016-08-19T13:32:05 < Ecco> wrong register :) 2016-08-19T13:32:10 < Ecco> indeed, not 2016-08-19T13:32:13 < Ecco> damn 2016-08-19T13:32:15 < Ecco> sorry :) 2016-08-19T13:32:28 < jpa-> :) 2016-08-19T13:32:45 < Ecco> wait 2016-08-19T13:32:48 < Ecco> same stuff actually 2016-08-19T13:32:55 < Ecco> they have the same layout and same reset values 2016-08-19T13:33:02 < Ecco> After reset, PLLM is 16 2016-08-19T13:33:05 < Ecco> and PLLN is 263 2016-08-19T13:33:59 < jpa-> look at RCC_CFGR SW bits first :P 2016-08-19T13:34:12 < jpa-> and compare with the clock tree drawing 2016-08-19T13:34:16 < Ecco> sorry, 192 2016-08-19T13:35:24 < Ecco> oh 2016-08-19T13:35:33 < Ecco> ok so by default it's the HSI that's selected 2016-08-19T13:35:39 < Ecco> so it's simply 16 MHz, end of the story 2016-08-19T13:35:40 < Ecco> right? 2016-08-19T13:36:24 < jpa-> seems so 2016-08-19T13:36:27 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-19T13:36:31 < Ecco> makes sense 2016-08-19T13:36:33 < Ecco> thanks :) 2016-08-19T13:36:55 < Ecco> is there an easy way to measure the CPU clock using a scope? 2016-08-19T13:37:11 < Tectu> toggle a GPIO as fast as you can w/o doing anything else 2016-08-19T13:37:25 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-19T13:37:32 < Tectu> make sure that you setup the GPIO config to use FASTEST or HIGH_SPEED or whatever the current macro is 2016-08-19T13:37:32 < Ecco> Would that actually work? 2016-08-19T13:37:36 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-19T13:37:36 < jpa-> UART output baudrate is easiest 2016-08-19T13:37:50 < jpa-> i.e. configure UART to output 9600 bps, see if you can receive it at 9600 bps 2016-08-19T13:38:07 < Ecco> oh I see 2016-08-19T13:38:13 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-19T13:38:15 < Ecco> thanks! 2016-08-19T13:38:19 < Tectu> jpa-, doesn't the GPIO toggle work with the STM32? Are they limited? I thought the highest setting allows you to toggle as quickly as possible? 2016-08-19T13:38:37 < jpa-> Tectu: sure, but how fast is as quickly as possible? 2016-08-19T13:38:47 < jpa-> is it cpu freq / 2? /4? APB freq /2? 2016-08-19T13:39:06 < Tectu> hmm yeah, I see. I should stop talking for today. Sorry for giving bad advice. 2016-08-19T13:40:50 < Ecco> crt: Where can I look it up? 2016-08-19T13:41:17 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-19T13:41:27 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T13:42:17 < karlp> mco divided is a good way to measure clock too 2016-08-19T13:42:19 < Tectu> Ecco, this thing: http://screencast.com/t/zzwYAy34PI 2016-08-19T13:42:32 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-19T13:43:31 < karlp> Tectu: hehe, lsi at 32k? that's optimistic :) 2016-08-19T13:43:48 < karlp> oh hey, they actually claim that for f4. 2016-08-19T13:43:58 < Tectu> karlp, that is the default value :) 2016-08-19T13:44:14 < jpa-> 32k (10k-50k) ;) 2016-08-19T13:45:22 < Tectu> given the fact that these days a wrist watch is no longer a device to accurately keep track of time it might be suitable :) 2016-08-19T13:46:35 < karlp> Tectu: it's 37k nominal on l1, and 40k on some other part iirc, 2016-08-19T13:47:08 < Tectu> karlp, ah, okay. I've only ever used F1, F4 and F7 2016-08-19T13:47:35 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T13:49:39 < Tectu> dongs, are you there? 2016-08-19T13:50:53 < dongs> bloggin 2016-08-19T13:51:32 < Tectu> dongs, are there people on freelancer that would make you diptrace components for cheap? 2016-08-19T13:51:36 < Tectu> I'm kinda too lazy. 2016-08-19T13:52:49 * karlp making blink patterns to get useful diagnostics from a single led. 2016-08-19T13:56:54 < dongs> Tectu: certainly 2016-08-19T13:57:02 < dongs> RegulViktor in ukraine works for fucking peanuts 2016-08-19T13:57:12 < dongs> i saw him take and complete a project I wouldn't touch for less than $1500 for like $150 2016-08-19T13:57:30 < Tectu> dongs, how reliable are those people? 2016-08-19T13:57:38 < dongs> that one particularly is pretty good i'd say 2016-08-19T13:57:40 < Tectu> dongs, any experience with getting parts done? 2016-08-19T13:57:44 < Tectu> dongs, thanks 2016-08-19T13:57:53 < dongs> i am not THAT lazy, but really just do like $30 "hireme" for that guy 2016-08-19T13:58:01 < dongs> and chat him up say I want xx components made 2016-08-19T13:58:03 < dongs> i'm sure he'll do it. 2016-08-19T13:59:10 < Tectu> dongs, thanks, I'll get back to that! 2016-08-19T13:59:44 < Tectu> dongs, is that guy doing diptrace stuff? 2016-08-19T13:59:48 < dongs> yes 2016-08-19T14:00:10 < Tectu> great, thanks! 2016-08-19T14:09:15 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T14:09:57 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-19T14:09:57 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2016-08-19T14:15:34 < jadew> I have to stop buying equipment from asia 2016-08-19T14:16:06 < jadew> it always looks like they picked it out of the garbage, washed it and then mailed it to me 2016-08-19T14:16:36 < jadew> an agilent e4421b sig gen 2016-08-19T14:16:43 < jadew> 250 kHz to 3 GHz 2016-08-19T14:18:01 < jadew> yeah, seems fully operational 2016-08-19T14:19:10 < jadew> $600 shipped and with taxes paid - not exactly the great deal I thought I was getting hehe 2016-08-19T14:23:58 < Steffanx> Pics? 2016-08-19T14:28:25 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-19T14:29:04 < jadew> Steffanx, http://dumb.ro/files/20160819_142724.jpg 2016-08-19T14:29:17 < jadew> I hope I'll be able to get the yellow out of that knob 2016-08-19T14:30:17 < jadew> it has some other plastics on the side that are yellowish too, so I'm hoping to fix those too 2016-08-19T14:31:34 < jadew> it's not in the worst shape for sure 2016-08-19T14:31:49 < jadew> anyway, bigger than I expected 2016-08-19T14:35:20 < jadew> not necessarily, but it will help there too 2016-08-19T14:36:22 < jadew> I didn't have a sig gen that I could trust to be linear across the range 2016-08-19T14:37:22 < Tectu> jadew, do you need that for your php? 2016-08-19T14:37:29 < jadew> Tectu, haha 2016-08-19T14:39:04 < karlp> why does it matter if the knob is yellow? 2016-08-19T14:39:22 < jadew> hehe 2016-08-19T14:39:28 < jadew> karlp, it just looks funny 2016-08-19T14:40:52 < jpa-> jadew: you need some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retr0bright :) 2016-08-19T14:41:29 < jadew> jpa-, I was just looking into what that active oxygen thing is 2016-08-19T14:41:34 < jadew> and I was wondering if I have some 2016-08-19T14:43:09 < jadew> 4 super yellow nintendos 2016-08-19T14:43:34 < emeryth> cuz they're japanese, duh 2016-08-19T14:43:36 < karlp> so, how does one get rand() to do anything useful with gcc-arm-embedded 2016-08-19T14:43:37 < karlp> ? 2016-08-19T14:44:48 < jadew> you use it to disable the hardware after warranty period + rand() weeks 2016-08-19T14:45:32 < karlp> there's a rand function being pulled in, but I always seem to get 0 from it. 2016-08-19T14:45:57 < jadew> is it not a PRNG? 2016-08-19T14:46:17 < jpa-> karlp: i've used lrand48() and it works for me 2016-08-19T14:46:30 < jpa-> (after calling srand48()) 2016-08-19T14:46:39 < jadew> seeding shouldn't matter 2016-08-19T14:46:46 < jpa-> depends 2016-08-19T14:46:57 < jadew> it should still work because the next number is based on the previous 2016-08-19T14:47:05 < jadew> and 0 is a valid number too 2016-08-19T14:47:16 < jpa-> some implementations are stupid so that the LFSR is 0 to start with and designed so that it will remain 0.. dunno about newlib implementation 2016-08-19T14:47:31 < jadew> weird 2016-08-19T14:48:47 < jpa-> https://github.com/bminor/newlib/blob/master/newlib/libc/stdlib/rand.c#L81 yeah, this also just multiplies by constant so if it is 0 to start with, it will stay 0 2016-08-19T14:48:54 < Tectu> jpa-, thanks for that link. didn't know that one can get rid of the yellowness 2016-08-19T14:48:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.21] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T14:49:05 < jpa-> (you can get 0 output because of the & masking) 2016-08-19T14:49:19 < jpa-> (the actual seed will never reach 0 again) 2016-08-19T14:49:26 < jpa-> hmm but that has +1 2016-08-19T14:49:32 < jpa-> so actually should not have that problem 2016-08-19T14:49:39 < karlp> hrm, still just geting zero. 2016-08-19T14:49:57 < jpa-> maybe the reent gods are angry at you 2016-08-19T14:49:58 < jadew> karlp, step in 2016-08-19T14:50:01 < jpa-> they are always angry at me 2016-08-19T14:50:11 < jadew> the code should be fairly simple 2016-08-19T14:50:19 < karlp> nah, if you guys reckon it should have "just worked" then it's ok. 2016-08-19T14:50:19 < jpa-> sometimes they place the reent structure outside the ram, which kind of makes storing the seed hard 2016-08-19T14:50:44 < karlp> looping this set of structures ina fixed order still manages to crash shit, and that's fixed, was just hoping to continually shuffle the list to test more cases. 2016-08-19T14:50:51 < Tectu> cu folks o/ 2016-08-19T14:50:56 < jadew> by Tectu 2016-08-19T14:50:58 < jadew> *bye 2016-08-19T14:51:18 < karlp> https://github.com/karlp/libopencm3-tests/blob/master/tests/rcc-legal-ranges/main-stm32l1-generic.c#L114 if you're bored.... 2016-08-19T15:00:12 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-19T15:01:17 < Steffanx> Crt. 2016-08-19T15:01:38 < Steffanx> Why u axing? 2016-08-19T15:01:53 < Steffanx> Ok 2016-08-19T15:01:55 < Steffanx> Hi 2016-08-19T15:02:32 < Steffanx> Nothing interesting 2016-08-19T15:04:11 < Steffanx> Ok. 2016-08-19T15:04:11 < Steffanx> Ask customer 2016-08-19T15:05:04 < Steffanx> Im a pro-adviser 2016-08-19T15:09:51 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T15:14:26 < Steffanx> Do customers ever take your serious crt? 2016-08-19T15:14:45 < Steffanx> Are you ever serious? 2016-08-19T15:14:55 < Steffanx> Seriously? 2016-08-19T15:16:05 < Steffanx> Oh you have to compensate 2016-08-19T15:16:55 < Steffanx> Ok yes. 2016-08-19T15:17:24 < Steffanx> I meant you have to compensate being serious by being not so serious here 2016-08-19T15:17:35 < Steffanx> Or the other way around 2016-08-19T15:18:25 < Steffanx> Its ok 2016-08-19T15:18:45 < Steffanx> Laurence is into that 2016-08-19T15:20:58 < Steffanx> And then you go buzzing? IoT \o/ 2016-08-19T15:22:32 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 300 seconds.] 2016-08-19T15:23:10 < ReadError> oh 2016-08-19T15:23:18 < ReadError> like 10 years ago if people found out u knew how to computer 2016-08-19T15:23:28 < ReadError> they would axe you to build a new social networking site 2016-08-19T15:24:15 < jadew> I have a friend who works at a leasing company and they have such devices installed on their cars 2016-08-19T15:24:34 < jadew> on top of the regular GPS device which disables the car if you leave the country 2016-08-19T15:25:02 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T15:25:32 < jadew> he has promissed me a couple of those devices for years :/ 2016-08-19T15:26:01 * jadew knocks on wood 2016-08-19T15:26:07 < jadew> he's about to have his first baby 2016-08-19T15:26:23 < jadew> haha 2016-08-19T15:29:22 -!- rcc [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T15:29:22 -!- rcc [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-19T15:29:22 -!- rcc [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T15:31:04 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-19T15:31:58 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Product-Design/Design-single-high-functioning-sex/ 2016-08-19T15:32:11 < dongs> shit, i can just sell this guy my bluetooth dildo 2016-08-19T15:32:15 < dongs> don't even need to change anything 2016-08-19T15:32:57 < Laurenceb__> lulwut chaturbate already have web app controlled dildo 2016-08-19T15:33:09 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-19T15:33:09 < Laurenceb__> I know this because someone told me 2016-08-19T15:33:39 < Laurenceb__> obviously they managed to use non roving networks bluetooth 2016-08-19T15:36:48 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T15:37:08 < Laurenceb__> send these guys round https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5YVxN7b38 2016-08-19T15:37:16 < Steffanx> Do you model there laurenceb? 2016-08-19T15:37:31 < Laurenceb__> Comments are disabled for this video. top kek 2016-08-19T15:37:38 < englishman> crt: doing it wrong. Having enough skill to do a 5h job in 30min is exactly how you make money. 2016-08-19T15:37:54 < englishman> Take for instance, Audi timing belts 2016-08-19T15:38:07 < englishman> 6h job done in 2h 2016-08-19T15:38:18 < englishman> Bread and butter of a shop. 2016-08-19T15:38:46 < englishman> You're only scamming Aussies so its all good. 2016-08-19T15:38:51 < Steffanx> Aussie dollars? 2016-08-19T15:39:18 < englishman> I dono about 40k either, in some shops. 2016-08-19T15:40:08 < englishman> Ha. Depends, I guess 2016-08-19T15:40:53 < englishman> I'd never spend 40k on a car. Especially an Audi. Especially if that car was >1% of my net worth. 2016-08-19T15:41:10 < Laurenceb__> I'd never spend more than 400 on a car 2016-08-19T15:41:19 < englishman> What happens tomorrow? I think I'm going to pick blueberries. 2016-08-19T15:41:35 < Laurenceb__> if it can move under its own power its good to go 2016-08-19T15:41:52 < Steffanx> Do you have a car laurenceb__? 2016-08-19T15:42:05 < englishman> 400 is already well over 1% of Laurenceb__ 's net worth. 2016-08-19T15:42:12 < Steffanx> Haha 2016-08-19T15:42:39 < Laurenceb__> erm 2016-08-19T15:42:51 < Laurenceb__> actually you are right 2016-08-19T15:42:56 < englishman> Unless unfunny memes have monetary value now. 2016-08-19T15:43:17 < Steffanx> 2nd hand car? 2016-08-19T15:43:32 < Laurenceb__> but thats still enough money to pay for deposit on house so no issue 2016-08-19T15:44:31 < Laurenceb__> its also way more that UK student debt that everyone moans about like its the end of the world O_o 2016-08-19T15:47:04 < englishman> they don't have to, but it sure is easier 2016-08-19T15:47:05 < Steffanx> Bet you would take advantage of those. 2016-08-19T15:47:18 < Steffanx> <3 2016-08-19T15:47:29 < Laurenceb__> I took a shitty high paying defence job for a year to pay off my debt 2016-08-19T15:47:57 < englishman> I had to sell black market stroopwafel to pay for new wooden shoes 2016-08-19T15:48:22 < Laurenceb__> sitting in horrible office writing crap for 8 hours on random money eating project 2016-08-19T15:48:25 < Steffanx> Yes. Ever tried wooden shoes? 2016-08-19T15:48:59 < englishman> I haven't, not a fan of slivers under my toenails 2016-08-19T15:49:16 < Steffanx> Give me your address and you will get your stroopwafels and wooden shoes englishman 2016-08-19T15:49:25 < Laurenceb__> this is why I'm not super rich 2016-08-19T15:49:43 < Laurenceb__> sitting in office fo r8 hours ?! Ain't nobody got tiem fo dat 2016-08-19T15:49:53 < englishman> For serious? 2016-08-19T15:50:19 < Steffanx> Yes. 2016-08-19T15:51:57 < Steffanx> You would get fired for browsing 4chan anyway laurenceb__ 2016-08-19T15:52:16 < Laurenceb__> lul probably 2016-08-19T15:52:41 < rcc> haha 2016-08-19T15:52:56 -!- rcc is now known as jadew 2016-08-19T15:53:16 < jadew> lol @ the pole guy too 2016-08-19T15:53:51 < Laurenceb__> I'm also lulling at the pole guys... as they get deported due to Brexit 2016-08-19T15:54:39 < jadew> so you decided to start with the lay obeying citizens? 2016-08-19T15:54:44 < jadew> *law 2016-08-19T15:54:53 < ReadError> whats that site that lets you download research papers? 2016-08-19T15:54:57 < ReadError> some russian one 2016-08-19T15:55:36 < jadew> ReadError, http://arxiv.org/ 2016-08-19T15:55:48 < Laurenceb__> https://gfycat.com/ImmaculateImpeccableAlaskajingle 2016-08-19T15:56:32 < ReadError> nah this was more, juarez 2016-08-19T15:57:26 < jadew> ReadError, you'll find lots of research papers there 2016-08-19T15:57:39 < ReadError> jadew im looking for 1 specific one tho 2016-08-19T15:58:03 < Laurenceb__> no its not arxiv 2016-08-19T15:58:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-19T15:58:09 < Laurenceb__> arxiv is preprint server 2016-08-19T15:58:16 < Laurenceb__> I forget what the Russian place is called 2016-08-19T15:58:18 < Laurenceb__> bbl 2016-08-19T15:58:54 < ReadError> https://sci-hub.io/ 2016-08-19T15:58:56 < ReadError> that was it 2016-08-19T15:58:58 < ReadError> ;( 2016-08-19T15:59:16 < ReadError> cucknuckles 2016-08-19T15:59:46 < jadew> looks like someone didn't like the freedom of information 2016-08-19T16:01:19 < jadew> I take it they were from peer review journals? 2016-08-19T16:02:04 < BrainDamage> ReadErr libgen 2016-08-19T16:02:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T16:06:26 < jadew> I need more connections on linked in 2016-08-19T16:07:04 < jadew> it's like a suck at social networking 2016-08-19T16:07:08 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T16:07:44 < jadew> how do some people end up with hundreds of connections? 2016-08-19T16:07:53 < jadew> are they adding everyone they meet? 2016-08-19T16:08:14 < owl-v-> spamming 2016-08-19T16:08:30 < jadew> ah 2016-08-19T16:08:34 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-19T16:08:35 < jadew> so they're useless 2016-08-19T16:09:13 < jadew> I guess it's better to contact them directly than to go through someone else 2016-08-19T16:09:15 < owl-v-> you add someone you actually don't know about that someone 2016-08-19T16:11:09 < owl-v-> that is the maximum length of spi communication at very high speed rate like 100Mbps ?? 2016-08-19T16:11:17 < owl-v-> that -> what 2016-08-19T16:12:16 < jadew> owl-v-, depends on your transmission line 2016-08-19T16:12:58 < jadew> owl-v-, how long do you want it to be? 2016-08-19T16:13:01 < owl-v-> wire length 2016-08-19T16:13:19 < jadew> 80 MHz for example seems to be doable on a breadboard 2016-08-19T16:13:44 < jadew> but we're talking centimeters here 2016-08-19T16:14:09 < owl-v-> how about 1-2 meters apart for each nodes for daisy chain? 2016-08-19T16:14:20 < jadew> at 100 MHz? :D 2016-08-19T16:14:39 < jadew> first of all, it will be an FM station 2016-08-19T16:15:06 < jadew> but you can probably do it with twisted pairs 2016-08-19T16:15:20 < owl-v-> do i need FCC permission ?? :D 2016-08-19T16:15:24 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T16:15:31 < jadew> if it's for a product, for sure 2016-08-19T16:15:34 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-19T16:17:21 < ReadError> BrainDamage thanks 2016-08-19T16:17:46 < jadew> owl-v-, now I'm curious, I'll try it with some CAT-5 cable 2016-08-19T16:17:54 < jadew> should work fine 2016-08-19T16:18:04 < jadew> especially since it's shielded 2016-08-19T16:18:48 < jadew> then I'll try it with non shielded cable and then with non twisted pairs 2016-08-19T16:23:17 < Steffanx> But at least 100base-tx is differential. 2016-08-19T16:24:16 < Steffanx> Also a much lower fundamental freq. 2016-08-19T16:24:54 < Steffanx> Ill let you have fun mate. 2016-08-19T16:28:21 < jadew> about 1 m diferential pair, unshielded: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/VdvaI.png 2016-08-19T16:28:32 < jadew> @ 100 Mbps 2016-08-19T16:29:19 < jadew> looks almost like it could work 2016-08-19T16:29:52 < jadew> also, this is unterminated 2016-08-19T16:29:58 < jadew> so not impedance matches 2016-08-19T16:30:00 < jadew> *matched 2016-08-19T16:30:48 < owl-v-> how would you make it robust against noise like FM signals ? 2016-08-19T16:31:01 < jadew> owl-v-, that's the point of a diferential pair 2016-08-19T16:31:24 < jadew> you take the ground with you and twist them together so noise affects them equally 2016-08-19T16:31:57 < jadew> then when you connect it to your circuit, the signal line and the ground line will have the same relative potential and it will translate to an almost undistorted signal 2016-08-19T16:34:46 < jadew> normally it's done using opposite signals, but just taking the ground with you will have a similar effect 2016-08-19T16:37:40 < jadew> this is the same length, without the twisted pairs: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/dsOXB.png 2016-08-19T16:38:28 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/screenshot/06TwV.png 2016-08-19T16:39:20 < jadew> this is very informational, I never thought of doing this experiment before 2016-08-19T16:39:28 < jadew> I wonder at what frequency it gets usable again 2016-08-19T16:40:19 < dongs> whats jadew innovating 2016-08-19T16:40:28 < jadew> nothing 2016-08-19T16:41:07 < jadew> just seeing how twisted pairs improve the noise imunity and how fast can you send data on a floating wire (not twisted pair) 2016-08-19T16:41:24 < jadew> at 40 Mbps it's still not usable: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/WpQWD.png 2016-08-19T16:41:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T16:42:05 < jadew> at 30 Mbps it seems like it might just work: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/nAoMJ.png 2016-08-19T16:42:30 < jadew> so 30 Mbps seems to be max over about 1 meter of floating wire 2016-08-19T16:43:26 < jadew> I wonder if the clock can do it too, because 30 Mbps of data = 15 MHz top, but the clock has to be at 30 MHz 2016-08-19T16:44:12 < jadew> yep, the clock would be fine: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/6hAdC.png 2016-08-19T16:45:02 < jadew> so the question now is how it degrades with length 2016-08-19T16:45:10 < jadew> will it be 15 Mbps @ 2 meters? 2016-08-19T16:45:23 < dongs> I once ran WS2812 over like 300meters of cat5 in a spool 2016-08-19T16:45:32 < englishman> 800khz... 2016-08-19T16:46:04 < dongs> since we're on 'retarded ideas friday' why not? 2016-08-19T16:47:12 < englishman> im a big fan of retarded ideas friday 2016-08-19T16:48:25 < PeterM> i once ran 100kbit rs-485 over 2500m of cat 5 but thats a bit different 2016-08-19T16:50:50 < jadew> some signal at 30 MHz for double the legth: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/oRjxx.png 2016-08-19T16:53:17 < jadew> at 25: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/hssSa.png and at 20: http://dumb.ro/screenshot/Tmmc1.png 2016-08-19T16:54:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-19T16:54:25 < jadew> ok, so it looks like it's not linear 2016-08-19T16:55:39 < jadew> so in order to reach twice the distance you don't have to lower the frequency by 1/2 2016-08-19T16:55:43 < dongs> hey englishman 2016-08-19T16:55:50 < dongs> http://www.panelook.com/TFT1P7134-E_No%20Brand_3.5_LCM_overview_19065.html IPS shittylcd 2016-08-19T16:56:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-19T16:56:30 < Rob235> are any of you timecop or peter workman? 2016-08-19T16:56:39 < jadew> dongs is timecop 2016-08-19T16:57:00 < jadew> he's the one with the videos of the asian girls dancing 2016-08-19T16:57:07 < englishman> doxxed 2016-08-19T16:57:11 < englishman> dongs: nice 2016-08-19T16:57:12 < dongs> Rob235: duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh both of them are in this channel 2016-08-19T16:57:40 < Rob235> PeterM 2016-08-19T16:57:44 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T16:57:44 < jadew> I'll test this further a bit later and let you guys know what I find, I can't be sure of the results just yet 2016-08-19T16:58:07 < dongs> Tectu: found another uGFX-pumping post https://theembeddedkitchen.net/an-expansion-board-for-the-stm32f4discovery/42 2016-08-19T16:59:06 < dongs> Both ChibiOS and uGFX are available under a dual license for free non-commercial usage and commercial licenses once used in production purposes. 2016-08-19T17:01:23 < dongs> got 3 spams within 3 minutes of each other 2016-08-19T17:01:28 < dongs> all advertising some shitty chinapcbfab 2016-08-19T17:01:34 < dongs> all 3 emails from different "person" 2016-08-19T17:01:57 < dongs> select, mark as read, delete. 2016-08-19T17:02:07 < dongs> i even gave up trying to send them pcbruler.zip 2016-08-19T17:02:10 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA-q4pXd0Pk 2016-08-19T17:02:12 < dongs> they just pump same unusable shit 2016-08-19T17:02:25 < qyx> whats pcbrutal 2016-08-19T17:02:41 < qyx> erm 2016-08-19T17:03:03 < qyx> dislexia++ 2016-08-19T17:04:48 < PeterM> Rob235, im PeterM not PeterW 2016-08-19T17:05:05 < Rob235> I just typed pete and hit tab and enter sorry :) 2016-08-19T17:05:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T17:05:13 < Steffanx> I know who it is. 2016-08-19T17:05:16 < dongs> me2 2016-08-19T17:05:23 < PeterM> its probably peterw 2016-08-19T17:05:26 < Steffanx> And yes hes here 2016-08-19T17:05:27 < dongs> no 2016-08-19T17:05:32 < Rob235> ultrasauce 2016-08-19T17:05:40 < dongs> wow, how did you guess 2016-08-19T17:05:41 < PeterM> ahh yeah 2016-08-19T17:06:01 < Rob235> I'm a genious with a crashing air robot 2016-08-19T17:06:20 < Rob235> i'm gonna need some 2016-08-19T17:06:46 < Rob235> need to grow some new balls before increasing pid gains and going back out 2016-08-19T17:08:38 < Steffanx> Is it sleep time yet there crt? 2016-08-19T17:08:46 < Rob235> I only have one ball, it should be quick 2016-08-19T17:09:00 < Rob235> crt: It appears that its reacting but very very slowly so I think pid is just set way tooo low 2016-08-19T17:09:19 < Steffanx> You are not jpa-, dont answer questions with "maybe" crt 2016-08-19T17:09:20 < karlp> you seem to have an very odd understanding of the word pid, 2016-08-19T17:09:33 < Rob235> yes 2016-08-19T17:09:34 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-19T17:09:35 < karlp> you do know it's an acronym of three letters right? 2016-08-19T17:09:40 < Rob235> I do 2016-08-19T17:09:48 < Rob235> when I say pid I mean the gains 2016-08-19T17:10:01 < Rob235> what else is there to set in pid 2016-08-19T17:10:29 < karlp> maybe you don't actually have a pid, maybe you just have a p 2016-08-19T17:10:46 < Rob235> well I have a p and a d, I set i to 0 2016-08-19T17:11:12 < karlp> and you're just pickingnumbers at random and calling it tuning? 2016-08-19T17:11:16 < karlp> I see more crashes in your future.... 2016-08-19T17:11:46 < Rob235> I started low like 'people' said to, but I guess I started too low 2016-08-19T17:11:52 < Rob235> I'm going to create a fixed platform to tune it 2016-08-19T17:11:58 < Rob235> so that I don't go through that again 2016-08-19T17:14:51 < Rob235> karlp: I'm not quite as dumb as you think I am... 2016-08-19T17:15:08 < Rob235> I make stupid decisions sometimes :) 2016-08-19T17:15:40 < karlp> I don't think you're generally dumb, I just hink you're being particularly naive in your approach to designing your control system. 2016-08-19T17:19:27 < Steffanx> Yes/No. Crt 2016-08-19T17:20:24 < Steffanx> But you are a bit tired right? 2016-08-19T17:20:24 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-19T17:20:44 < Steffanx> Little kids get annoying/weird when tired :P 2016-08-19T17:21:40 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T17:24:12 < Rob235> hmmm I'm bored.... 2016-08-19T17:28:15 < Rob235> I'm going to lay under my hex and turn it on 2016-08-19T17:28:27 < Rob235> heh 2016-08-19T17:28:44 < Rob235> to hold onto it and see how it responds to changes 2016-08-19T17:28:45 < Steffanx> Suicide by hex. 2016-08-19T17:29:00 < Rob235> I need to find a way to tune this thing 2016-08-19T17:30:06 < Rob235> dong board? 2016-08-19T17:31:08 < Rob235> and why is that always everyones response? Isn't this supposed to be a creative place? everyone just says give up and buy something :P 2016-08-19T17:32:20 < Steffanx> Dont generalize so much.. 2016-08-19T17:32:28 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-19T17:32:43 < Steffanx> I never told you that. 2016-08-19T17:33:46 < PeterM> have you looked at other projects pid values and gotten that as a ballpark to start from? 2016-08-19T17:33:58 < PeterM> not saying thats a good idea 2016-08-19T17:34:02 < PeterM> but thats probably not a bad one 2016-08-19T17:34:15 < ReadError> Rob235 nobody said buy a board and use its code 2016-08-19T17:34:26 < ReadError> but buying an assembled board and making codes makes sense 2016-08-19T17:34:54 < ReadError> specially with the chinaclone subsidiaries 2016-08-19T17:35:13 < Rob235> most don't list the gains because its so dependent on the copter but I found one place that uses 1.3 for p and I tried 0.1 so I'm thinking I shot a bit low 2016-08-19T17:35:44 < Rob235> I think they are using similar methods so the values should somewhat relate 2016-08-19T17:35:49 < ReadError> Rob235 generally defaults are considered 'flyable' 2016-08-19T17:35:53 < ReadError> on most all projects 2016-08-19T17:35:59 < Rob235> oh I haven't seen defaults 2016-08-19T17:36:05 < ReadError> they are there ;) 2016-08-19T17:36:06 < Rob235> guess I should do some searching 2016-08-19T17:36:20 < ReadError> that will give you some idea tho 2016-08-19T17:36:27 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-19T17:37:19 < Laurenceb> this seems like another putin attack job 2016-08-19T17:37:20 < Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37109169 2016-08-19T17:37:28 < Laurenceb> but I admit its pretty funny 2016-08-19T17:38:32 < dongs> how does DCMI with LCD output work if max DMA size is 64k 2016-08-19T17:38:51 < dongs> does it just use circular DMA in peripheral to peripheral mode or something? 2016-08-19T17:39:10 < Rob235> I have no idea what you're talking about but circular mode was going to be my guess 2016-08-19T17:39:25 < zyp> doesn't it have uts own DMA master? 2016-08-19T17:39:37 < Laurenceb> attn crt https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/08/18/2351232/realdoll-ceo-aims-to-make-its-sex-dolls-love-you-back-via-ai-app 2016-08-19T17:39:38 < zyp> LCD I mean 2016-08-19T17:39:48 < dongs> zyp, who? 2016-08-19T17:40:44 < dongs> all examples of shittycams I can find are just doing jpeg with < 64k 2016-08-19T17:40:55 < dongs> OR larger frames -> direct to LCD on fsmc 2016-08-19T17:41:38 < Laurenceb> nooscope when 2016-08-19T17:47:37 < englishman> Ultrasauce got mentioned, please queue the stompy stomp video 2016-08-19T17:49:01 < englishman> entertainment 2016-08-19T17:49:35 < englishman> wtf why are comments deleted from Rob235 's video 2016-08-19T17:49:39 < englishman> fascist 2016-08-19T17:49:56 < Rob235> because they were stupid 2016-08-19T17:49:57 < englishman> stompy video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vBi6LNklRg 2016-08-19T17:53:08 < Rob235> thats cool 2016-08-19T17:54:08 < Rob235> what is that 3d app running? 2016-08-19T17:56:36 < Rob235> maybe I should fix up my hex 2016-08-19T17:56:49 < Rob235> looking at it damaged makes me sad 2016-08-19T17:57:03 < Rob235> yea, fuck the drone, enough time wasted on it 2016-08-19T17:57:15 < Rob235> I got close enough, it got in the air :) 2016-08-19T17:59:19 < Steffanx> Zano worked too. Just very not well 2016-08-19T17:59:23 < ReadError> lol robot stomping around like its angry 2016-08-19T18:00:40 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T18:00:41 < skroon> hi there 2016-08-19T18:00:58 < Steffanx> Goedendag. 2016-08-19T18:01:01 < skroon> I've got a Nucleo STM32F401 to play with 2016-08-19T18:01:07 < skroon> Steffanx: goedendag! :-) 2016-08-19T18:02:08 < skroon> and i've got a X-Nucleo-NFC01A1 expansion board for it as well, but i'm trying to figure out how to work with this board, but I can only find stuff about STM32Cube drivers 2016-08-19T18:02:13 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T18:02:15 < skroon> but can't I just talk I2C to this thing? 2016-08-19T18:02:18 < aandrew> hm, might be moving this design to F7 now 2016-08-19T18:02:43 < ReadError> skroon check the datasheet for the IC on the board 2016-08-19T18:02:52 < skroon> ReadError: ahhh right 2016-08-19T18:02:54 < ReadError> refman 2016-08-19T18:03:20 < ReadError> its dumb how digikey/mouser link to the useless 1page pdfs for them 2016-08-19T18:03:36 < skroon> ReadError: right :-) 2016-08-19T18:04:19 < ReadError> hey flyback, I saw a vid and thought about you 2016-08-19T18:04:23 < skroon> so it's not needed to use STM32CubeMX right? In honesty I don't understand anything what CubeMX is trying todo... generate code based on some UI settings? 2016-08-19T18:04:24 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA-q4pXd0Pk 2016-08-19T18:04:25 < Laurenceb> crt found your photo https://8ch.net/pol/src/1471601655525-2.jpg 2016-08-19T18:04:31 < ReadError> skroon no its not 2016-08-19T18:04:57 < ReadError> you can use it w/ anything, arduino etc 2016-08-19T18:04:59 < Laurenceb> https://8ch.net/pol/src/1471602722147.jpeg 2016-08-19T18:05:01 < Laurenceb> top kek 2016-08-19T18:07:42 < ReadError> flyback wat 2016-08-19T18:08:00 < englishman> thats like the second time hes linked that for no reason 2016-08-19T18:08:06 < englishman> i think he suffers from the canuck disease 2016-08-19T18:08:22 < Laurenceb> its the only word he knows 2016-08-19T18:08:33 < ReadError> englishman every time flyback talks im reminded of his butt problems 2016-08-19T18:08:42 < ReadError> tell him about your butt flyback 2016-08-19T18:08:43 < englishman> he didnt get tix to the tragically hip show now he must seppuku by running full speed into a mööse 2016-08-19T18:09:01 < englishman> stop eating glass 2016-08-19T18:09:22 < englishman> lol 2016-08-19T18:09:23 < englishman> cool 2016-08-19T18:09:35 < ReadError> its GLUTEN 2016-08-19T18:10:29 < Laurenceb> itt: flyback discussed his colon lining 2016-08-19T18:10:31 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-19T18:10:41 < englishman> no, thats not nearly enough 2016-08-19T18:12:19 < Rob235> blood bright or dark/brown 2016-08-19T18:12:21 < englishman> its your little canuck 2016-08-19T18:12:22 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-19T18:12:33 < Laurenceb> well thats going in my copypaste folder 2016-08-19T18:12:39 < Rob235> Im surprised the scope didn't find anything then 2016-08-19T18:12:44 < Rob235> must be lower 2016-08-19T18:12:47 < Rob235> if its red 2016-08-19T18:14:54 < Laurenceb> https://8ch.net/pol/src/1471580104458.jpeg 2016-08-19T18:15:53 < Rob235> why is the girl not wearing lipstick but the raptor is? 2016-08-19T18:16:35 < ReadError> http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/08/naked_donald_trump_statue_appe.html#incart_most-commented_metro_article 2016-08-19T18:16:58 < Laurenceb> at least its not a naked Hillary 2016-08-19T18:20:02 < jadew> lol 2016-08-19T18:21:15 < jadew> don't you already have a couple? 2016-08-19T18:21:23 < Rob235> ok so they are both old and ugly, one is a fat man and the other is a woman, you would still rather see the man? 2016-08-19T18:21:40 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-19T18:21:45 < jadew> pretty sure the apple's encryption is nothing the NSA can't crack or the FBI can't ask the NSA to crack if they really needed it 2016-08-19T18:21:53 < jadew> the whole thing was just the FBI being polite 2016-08-19T18:22:09 < Laurenceb> protip: trump is employed by the Clintons 2016-08-19T18:22:26 < Laurenceb> http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160314/donald-hillary-800.jpg 2016-08-19T18:23:06 < jadew> it crashed? 2016-08-19T18:23:47 < jadew> seriously? 2016-08-19T18:24:05 < jadew> that's some major bad luck 2016-08-19T18:24:15 < jadew> they couldn't afford a good pilot? 2016-08-19T18:25:24 < jadew> if I had lots of money, I'd get a bunch of helicopters and fly everyone else to me 2016-08-19T18:25:58 < Rob235> sounds like what trump was doing 2016-08-19T18:26:02 < jadew> haha 2016-08-19T18:26:10 < jadew> good point 2016-08-19T18:27:08 < jadew> holly crap, is that chick speed reading? 2016-08-19T18:28:18 < jadew> the recommendations section for that video is very dark 2016-08-19T18:28:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T18:28:33 < jadew> flyback, the reporter? 2016-08-19T18:28:35 < englishman> the music afterwards is happily upbeat 2016-08-19T18:28:52 < jadew> wait, I don't understand what happened, I thought she was reporting on the crash 2016-08-19T18:29:00 < englishman> she was. 2016-08-19T18:29:00 < jadew> was she on the plane or wth happened? 2016-08-19T18:29:01 < englishman> in a way 2016-08-19T18:29:23 < jadew> oh 2016-08-19T18:29:31 < jadew> she was reporting on a car accident 2016-08-19T18:30:11 < jadew> now I get it 2016-08-19T18:31:11 < jadew> she had good advice tho 2016-08-19T18:31:15 < jadew> "hit the water!" 2016-08-19T18:31:55 < jadew> I don't understand how she drowned tho, most of the copter is on that bridge 2016-08-19T18:32:23 < jadew> ah, they picked it out of the water 2016-08-19T18:32:25 < jadew> damn... 2016-08-19T18:32:31 < jadew> that sucks 2016-08-19T18:32:44 < Rob235> when did fedex get so shitty? I thought it was always ups that was the bad one 2016-08-19T18:33:08 < jadew> Rob235, I had a call with the customs department at fedex yesterday 2016-08-19T18:33:24 < Rob235> ouch 2016-08-19T18:33:40 < jadew> - What do you have in there? - A broken piece of equipment? - Broken? haha come on... 2016-08-19T18:33:56 < jadew> I was like "It's from ebay..." 2016-08-19T18:34:24 < jadew> *- A broken piece of equipment. - no question, I said that 2016-08-19T18:34:41 < jadew> and she sort of laughed at the idea, thinking that I'm tryint to trick her or something 2016-08-19T18:34:44 < Rob235> what was suspicious about it that they called in the first place/ 2016-08-19T18:34:54 < jadew> no idea 2016-08-19T18:35:47 < jadew> let me check 2016-08-19T18:36:13 < jadew> one with Thailand 2016-08-19T18:36:20 < jadew> *Thailand 2016-08-19T18:36:25 < jadew> I wanted to say one with T 2016-08-19T18:36:36 < jadew> ah, Romania 2016-08-19T18:37:15 < Rob235> everything should be USPS :) 2016-08-19T18:37:25 < jadew> not as neat as you might think :P 2016-08-19T18:37:49 < Rob235> flyback: where you from 2016-08-19T18:37:52 < jadew> us 2016-08-19T18:37:58 < jadew> he's voting for Trump 2016-08-19T18:38:05 < Rob235> for realz? 2016-08-19T18:38:09 < Rob235> what state 2016-08-19T18:38:28 < Rob235> nj here 2016-08-19T18:39:05 < jadew> New Jersey? 2016-08-19T18:39:08 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-19T18:39:09 < jadew> and Passadina 2016-08-19T18:39:24 < jadew> *Pasadena 2016-08-19T18:39:32 < Rob235> Pennsylvania 2016-08-19T18:39:34 < jadew> ? 2016-08-19T18:39:38 < jadew> ah ha 2016-08-19T18:39:41 < jadew> Pasadena is not a state? 2016-08-19T18:39:44 < Rob235> nope 2016-08-19T18:39:47 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-19T18:40:06 < Rob235> city in california 2016-08-19T18:40:10 < jadew> thanks 2016-08-19T18:41:33 < jadew> flyback, did they say that she was involved in another crash a couple of months earlier? 2016-08-19T18:44:15 < jadew> I wonder what they were talking about then 2016-08-19T18:49:18 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/C7LiRiZW2mc?t=3m3s 2016-08-19T18:54:21 < englishman> i thought you were a canuck poutine eater 2016-08-19T18:58:17 < Rob235> man I want to take the drone out again but its too hot 2016-08-19T18:59:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.244] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T19:01:02 < jadew> I keep thinking about getting one too 2016-08-19T19:01:15 < englishman> a drone? 2016-08-19T19:01:18 < englishman> or a canuck 2016-08-19T19:01:19 < jadew> what's the best bang/buck you can get? 2016-08-19T19:01:19 < Rob235> only if you use my fw 2016-08-19T19:01:22 < jadew> both! 2016-08-19T19:01:40 < englishman> get this jadew http://www.banggood.com/Cheerson-CX10-CX10-Mini-24G-4CH-6-Axis-LED-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-926614.html 2016-08-19T19:01:40 < jadew> I'd like one that can carry stuff 2016-08-19T19:01:42 < englishman> theyre fun 2016-08-19T19:01:43 < englishman> youll learn 2016-08-19T19:01:50 < englishman> then move up 2016-08-19T19:01:59 < jadew> thanks, looks nice 2016-08-19T19:02:02 < jadew> how long can they fly? 2016-08-19T19:02:07 < englishman> 3-4min 2016-08-19T19:02:17 < dongs> http://www.conexant.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/pb_CX93610.pdf what the fuck is even the point of this 2016-08-19T19:02:18 < jadew> oh, they're tiny 2016-08-19T19:02:19 < jadew> cute 2016-08-19T19:06:17 < Steffanx> I have the cx-30 and that one is pretty hard to fly outside 2016-08-19T19:06:34 < jadew> Steffanx, why? 2016-08-19T19:07:05 < Steffanx> Wind mainly. And lack of experience probably 2016-08-19T19:07:43 < Rob235> i havent tried the cx30 outside but I can't see it doing well 2016-08-19T19:08:05 < Steffanx> Inside is hard because of all the obstacles 2016-08-19T19:08:36 < Rob235> wow, looking at the drone I'm surprised more damage wasn't done from that crash 2016-08-19T19:08:38 < Rob235> good frame 2016-08-19T19:12:40 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T19:17:43 < Rob235> alright, last set of props are on, gotta order more :P 2016-08-19T19:18:28 < Rob235> hq props good for cheap plastic? 2016-08-19T19:19:37 < karlp> aren't you glad you spent hours balancing them? :) 2016-08-19T19:21:52 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-19T19:21:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T19:27:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-19T19:28:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-19T19:28:46 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-19T19:29:10 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T19:31:23 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@5.2.67.171] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-08-19T19:32:12 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T19:32:29 -!- DrLuke [~quassel@5.2.67.171] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T19:39:53 < Rob235> set the P gain to 1 and it seems to respond a lot more as expected but something still isn't right 2016-08-19T19:49:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.244] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-19T19:52:36 -!- elektrinis-hme [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T19:56:25 < Laurenceb> https://i.sli.mg/D9eP87.jpg 2016-08-19T19:56:29 < Laurenceb> tom66 at work 2016-08-19T19:57:06 < Rob235> ? 2016-08-19T19:57:20 * Laurenceb is reworking horsey loggers 2016-08-19T19:57:44 < Sync> hoers 2016-08-19T19:57:45 < Rob235> what did it used to look like 2016-08-19T20:01:43 < Laurenceb> same as before but with some reflow fails 2016-08-19T20:02:51 < Rob235> ahh, looks, cool, have any pics outside the bag? 2016-08-19T20:03:01 < Laurenceb> nope sorry 2016-08-19T20:03:06 < Rob235> np 2016-08-19T20:03:06 < Laurenceb> only crappy camera phone 2016-08-19T20:03:21 < Laurenceb> tom66 reference http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/2/4/0/5/7/a4437543-121-DSCN6724.jpg?d=1322085724 2016-08-19T20:03:32 < Laurenceb> tom66 was rcgroups pcb destroyer 2016-08-19T20:03:59 -!- elektrinis-hme [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2016-08-19T20:04:29 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-19T20:05:28 < englishman> nice 2016-08-19T20:05:43 < Rob235> I should put pants on if I'm playing with propellers... 2016-08-19T20:05:47 < englishman> lol tom66 2016-08-19T20:05:56 < englishman> was he that osd guy 2016-08-19T20:06:02 < Laurenceb> yup 2016-08-19T20:06:04 < englishman> using some ancient eol security camera soc 2016-08-19T20:06:37 < englishman> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1290963 2016-08-19T20:06:39 < englishman> 2010 damn 2016-08-19T20:07:22 < Laurenceb> lul the archaeology of trolling 2016-08-19T20:08:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T20:08:32 -!- elektrinis-hme [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T20:08:57 < Laurenceb> well now its fap time to relax 2016-08-19T20:08:58 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/newsplus/src/1471623465811.png 2016-08-19T20:09:14 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T20:17:51 < Rob235> hmm, I think my pitch correction is backwards? :P that could kinda explain it too... 2016-08-19T20:18:00 < Rob235> that is a stupid mistake if so 2016-08-19T20:20:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.10] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T20:32:01 < Rob235> no nvm, it was right 2016-08-19T20:40:56 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T20:41:52 < Rob235> haha damn, why didn't I do this from the beginning... 2016-08-19T20:48:01 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-19T20:55:54 -!- elektrinis-hme is now known as elektirnis 2016-08-19T21:04:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.10] has quit [] 2016-08-19T21:04:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.10] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T21:04:28 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-19T21:32:42 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-19T21:35:14 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T21:35:40 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T22:05:28 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T22:07:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T22:15:22 < Rob235> blah 2016-08-19T22:18:46 < Steffanx> bleh 2016-08-19T22:19:20 -!- Mustafa_ [~quassel@p5DE86CD4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T22:21:18 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T22:22:44 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T22:22:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-19T22:31:31 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-19T22:31:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T22:31:47 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-19T22:31:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-19T22:34:35 < Laurenceb> literally innawoods 2016-08-19T22:34:36 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce3rvQYmGs8 2016-08-19T22:38:48 < Steffanx> Laurenceb's future. 2016-08-19T22:39:28 < Laurenceb> top bantz 2016-08-19T22:40:50 < Steffanx> You taught me how to do that mr. 2016-08-19T22:41:14 < Steffanx> I was a very nice guy before ##stm32 :P 2016-08-19T22:41:31 < Laurenceb> http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.43423751.0227/ra,triblend_tee,x3104,red_triblend,front-c,600,650,900,850-bg,f8f8f8.2u3.jpg 2016-08-19T22:42:32 < Steffanx> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/Laurenceb.txt pick one. 2016-08-19T22:45:06 < kakimir> sup bubbas 2016-08-19T22:45:18 < kakimir> Laurenceb: nice shirt 2016-08-19T22:46:16 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsd-lKdEpx4 bedtime short 2016-08-19T22:48:40 < kakimir> Laurenceb: where to get one? 2016-08-19T22:48:54 < Laurenceb> dunno 2016-08-19T22:49:02 < Laurenceb> 4chan meme store 2016-08-19T22:52:59 < kakimir> internet without chain of reference is just random trash 2016-08-19T22:54:10 < Steffanx> Same applies to ircing without context kakimir :P 2016-08-19T23:00:32 < kakimir> very correct 2016-08-19T23:12:07 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T23:26:18 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-19T23:41:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-19T23:45:54 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-19T23:59:22 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Day changed Sat Aug 20 2016 2016-08-20T00:02:28 < karlp> neat, yosys is growing support for those silego greenpak thingies 2016-08-20T00:06:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d438b2.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T00:07:19 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-20T00:24:06 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptkzzNaZb7U 2016-08-20T00:37:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T00:46:36 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T00:47:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-20T00:49:01 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-20T00:53:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d438b2.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-20T00:57:45 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T01:03:27 < Rob235> hi 2016-08-20T01:09:38 < Steffanx> lo 2016-08-20T01:10:10 < PeterM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYPmhEac6mw 2016-08-20T01:17:30 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.114.62.61] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-20T01:23:17 < aandrew> Laurenceb: I don't get the shit 2016-08-20T01:23:18 < aandrew> shirt 2016-08-20T01:23:47 < Steffanx> You're not the only one aandrew :P 2016-08-20T01:50:30 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T01:54:38 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86FC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T02:03:12 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-20T02:06:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-20T02:18:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@c-67-189-1-25.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T02:23:47 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T02:24:24 < Laurenceb__> sup trawls 2016-08-20T03:00:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T03:07:01 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/oao5cfificgx.jpg 2016-08-20T03:08:24 < Laurenceb__> try that in UK and you'll get a sex ban 2016-08-20T03:08:40 < upgrdman> ban == legal offence? if so, same in the usa 2016-08-20T03:09:17 < Laurenceb__> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/york-man-banned-from-having-sex-police-it-puts-an-end-to-your-life_uk_57583136e4b014b4f2531f6d 2016-08-20T03:11:28 < upgrdman> so, uh, how does the UK enfore this? they check your bedroom unannounced? 2016-08-20T03:11:53 < upgrdman> or is there like a IoT penis monitor on the guy? 2016-08-20T03:17:22 < aandrew> ok so wtf 2016-08-20T03:17:34 < aandrew> new cubemx is much nicer than the previous one I had 2016-08-20T03:17:53 < aandrew> but clock conf the PLL source mux is locked at HSI and even complains that it should be HSE but it won't let me select HSE 2016-08-20T03:17:53 < PeterM> did you upgrade from timecube -> cubemx? 2016-08-20T03:18:07 < PeterM> select hse o nthe pinout tab 2016-08-20T03:18:16 < aandrew> yeah I just realized that 2016-08-20T03:18:17 < aandrew> duh 2016-08-20T03:20:32 < PeterM> Laurenceb__, how does that work, "man acquitted" why does he have to do anything, he was found nto guilty? 2016-08-20T03:21:30 < dongs> 7/11 WAS A PART TIME JOB 2016-08-20T03:21:55 < PeterM> lolled 2016-08-20T03:22:50 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-20T03:25:00 < upgrdman> maybe a plea bargain and acquitted as a result? 2016-08-20T03:25:30 < Laurenceb__> PeterM: cuz uk 2016-08-20T03:29:09 < Thorn> why would the prosecution accept such a bargain 2016-08-20T03:30:52 < Thorn> there're no accomplices to testify against 2016-08-20T03:39:38 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106602ad08faf3c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T03:42:45 < aandrew> hm this DFSDM is kind of interesting 2016-08-20T03:49:55 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S0106602ad08faf3c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 2016-08-20T03:53:19 < PeterM> hello RTWOCOM 2016-08-20T04:00:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T04:06:04 < Laurenceb__> lul 4 realz? 2016-08-20T04:06:21 < Laurenceb__> supreme gentleman mode 2016-08-20T04:06:49 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-08-20T04:11:01 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-20T04:22:20 < aandrew> man there's some neat shit in these STM32 processors 2016-08-20T04:23:28 < aandrew> F7 can do memory-mapped quadspi with the ability to execute code from it 2016-08-20T04:25:15 < Thorn> so you can run code from dataflash? 2016-08-20T04:27:53 < jadew> man.. the coding style in the STL is pure garbage 2016-08-20T04:28:48 < jadew> http://pastebin.com/9bgi4YhT 2016-08-20T04:29:12 < jadew> look at that else block 2016-08-20T04:30:11 < jadew> looks like someone dropped the keyboard and random crap happened 2016-08-20T04:31:29 < Thorn> the } on line 23 seems to be for the if on line 21 2016-08-20T04:31:54 < aandrew> I absolutely love when they have functions starting with _ that aren't stupid simple things and braces all on their own line and indentation all fucked up 2016-08-20T04:32:07 < aandrew> oh and long_function_Names_wiTh_fucking_Case() 2016-08-20T04:32:41 < jadew> it's just weird 2016-08-20T04:34:16 < aandrew> what's new jadew 2016-08-20T04:34:19 < aandrew> Thorn: yep 2016-08-20T04:34:51 < jadew> trying to find the reason why wait_for() isn't working properly on windows 2016-08-20T04:35:13 < jadew> returns randomly with a non-timeout status 2016-08-20T04:35:14 < aandrew> you forgot to pass (WINDOWS_UPDATE_FINISHED) :-) 2016-08-20T04:35:21 < jadew> :) 2016-08-20T04:35:33 < jadew> the behaviour seems to be the same in boost and stl 2016-08-20T04:55:37 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-20T05:08:06 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-20T05:12:19 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-20T05:15:30 < aandrew> freecancer says I've used 0% of my bids 2016-08-20T05:16:24 < jadew> well, turns out that's normal behaviour for what I thought it's a bug 2016-08-20T05:16:34 < jadew> they're called spurious wakeups 2016-08-20T05:16:52 < jadew> but I don't know why such a thing would exist 2016-08-20T05:17:21 < jadew> it implies that there's an issue at the OS level 2016-08-20T05:18:28 < jadew> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spurious_wakeup 2016-08-20T05:18:39 < jadew> in other words, it's the OS trolling you 2016-08-20T05:21:19 < jadew> "The race conditions that cause spurious wakeups should be considered rare." Unless they're not and even if they're rare, that still doesn't fix anything, it means you have to code with this crap in mind 2016-08-20T05:22:23 < jadew> I seem to be getting close to 100% spurious wakeups with the STL 2016-08-20T05:33:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-20T06:00:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-20T06:10:04 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T06:33:00 < ReadError> the l0de radio hour is now live! https://youtu.be/VDzeXqlVi5A call in live at 415-349-5666 - This week's episode: THE APOCALYPSE TO COME! 2016-08-20T06:38:20 < englishman> yes 2016-08-20T06:39:06 < ReadError> ya call up 2016-08-20T06:39:11 < ReadError> talk lolotics 2016-08-20T06:40:26 < ReadError> anyting 2016-08-20T06:42:34 < ReadError> so call up and make shit pop off 2016-08-20T06:42:43 < ReadError> i just roll out of bed 2016-08-20T06:43:22 < jadew> let's make a radio show 2016-08-20T06:43:22 < ReadError> do you want to do an exorcism ? 2016-08-20T06:43:27 < ReadError> R2COM? 2016-08-20T06:43:40 < englishman> jadew: you call in too 2016-08-20T06:43:43 < ReadError> there is a holyman that can save you 2016-08-20T06:43:45 < englishman> he loves to chat to real people 2016-08-20T06:44:04 < englishman> with honest ideas 2016-08-20T06:44:35 < jadew> what is it about? 2016-08-20T06:44:43 < ReadError> its boring 2016-08-20T06:44:47 < ReadError> cuz theres boring callers 2016-08-20T06:45:40 < jadew> I'm going to get some coke 2016-08-20T06:46:25 < ReadError> hes on freenode now 2016-08-20T06:46:39 < ReadError> look at his channel list 2016-08-20T06:46:49 < jadew> is he here? 2016-08-20T06:46:58 < jadew> HI RADIO GUY! o// 2016-08-20T06:47:08 < englishman> R2COM: irccloud 2016-08-20T06:47:39 < jadew> I wish IRC was more like slack 2016-08-20T06:47:50 < englishman> i wish slack was dead 2016-08-20T06:47:59 < englishman> i dont like anything about that crap 2016-08-20T06:48:05 < jadew> I like the sharing part 2016-08-20T06:48:13 < englishman> drag and drop stuff is ok sure 2016-08-20T06:48:22 < englishman> but its just facebook for hipsters 2016-08-20T06:48:31 < englishman> and with some built in scripts 2016-08-20T06:48:38 < jadew> don't know about that, we use it at work 2016-08-20T06:48:47 < englishman> 7 billion dollar valuation for some irc scripts 2016-08-20T06:49:23 < jadew> I tried to get them to use IRC, but only my team ended up using it 2016-08-20T06:49:30 < jadew> months later we adopted slack 2016-08-20T06:49:42 < jadew> so now my team is using both slack and IRC 2016-08-20T06:49:56 < englishman> like opensores 2016-08-20T06:49:57 < jadew> we have gitbot on the irc server 2016-08-20T06:50:05 < englishman> one solution doesnt work for everyone 2016-08-20T06:50:09 < englishman> so adopt a second 2016-08-20T06:50:38 < ReadError> just join slacks and spam @here 2016-08-20T06:50:47 < englishman> ^ 2016-08-20T06:50:59 < englishman> fucking awful spyware garbage 2016-08-20T06:51:12 < jadew> yeah, that's what I don't like about it 2016-08-20T06:51:16 < jadew> or github for that matter 2016-08-20T06:51:24 < englishman> will be bought by yahoo or some other shithole wanting their last hurrah 2016-08-20T06:51:25 < ReadError> worst part is those CUCKS think thats a good feature? 2016-08-20T06:51:39 < ReadError> maybe in an office during biz hours 2016-08-20T06:51:45 < jadew> I don't think it's a good idea for a company to allow another company access to their stuff 2016-08-20T06:51:57 < ReadError> irccloud offers self hosted 2016-08-20T06:51:58 < englishman> yeah but you think logically 2016-08-20T06:52:13 < englishman> this didnt stop blackberry 2016-08-20T06:52:28 < englishman> 15 years ago almost 2016-08-20T06:53:01 < ReadError> R2COM call up 2016-08-20T06:53:08 < jadew> in fact, my team is the only one that has a private git server and a private SSL IRC server 2016-08-20T06:53:08 < ReadError> talk russian and hang up 2016-08-20T06:53:20 < jadew> everyone else is sharing code and passwords with slack and github 2016-08-20T06:53:46 < englishman> you complain, but nobody hears 2016-08-20T06:53:59 < englishman> but soon you'll be on your own 2016-08-20T06:54:04 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-20T06:54:05 < englishman> and better off 2016-08-20T07:03:30 -!- anton02 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2016-08-20T12:42:06 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T12:42:23 < Steffanx> Dead. 2016-08-20T12:44:01 < Steffanx> uh? 2016-08-20T12:44:40 < Steffanx> Not today. Are thou? 2016-08-20T12:44:44 < Steffanx> *art 2016-08-20T12:45:23 < Steffanx> Good. 2016-08-20T12:45:51 < Steffanx> Most intellectual conversation of today. :P 2016-08-20T12:47:22 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-serfaogsuafurtcf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T12:48:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d42c9c.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T12:48:39 < Steffanx> cdonalds? 2016-08-20T12:48:59 -!- alan5 [~quassel@167.88.36.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T12:49:31 < Steffanx> Doing some gaming. 2016-08-20T12:51:15 < Steffanx> No. 2016-08-20T12:51:49 < Steffanx> das war einmal. 2016-08-20T12:58:39 < Steffanx> How are you today crt? 2016-08-20T12:59:59 < Steffanx> Same here, 2016-08-20T13:00:33 < Steffanx> No. 2016-08-20T13:00:41 < Steffanx> /join #ugfx 2016-08-20T13:00:52 < Steffanx> no. 2016-08-20T13:02:12 < Steffanx> better listen to some r2com music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQ0xnJyb0A 2016-08-20T13:03:07 < Steffanx> lol this is far from hardcore. 2016-08-20T13:03:47 < Steffanx> Saturday. 2016-08-20T13:04:36 < Steffanx> So move to europe now and have another saturday. 2016-08-20T13:05:07 < Steffanx> Western europe of course 2016-08-20T13:07:17 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-20T13:22:57 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T13:28:00 -!- skroon_ [~skroon@84.31.31.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-20T13:28:06 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-20T13:31:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.250] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T13:37:02 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-20T14:22:50 < emeryth> is the STM32 touch sensing controller any good? 2016-08-20T14:23:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@86.173.255.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T14:25:02 < gjm> xD 2016-08-20T14:26:55 < Laurenceb__> so there are grrls on 4chan http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37141286 2016-08-20T14:27:04 < Laurenceb__> like an oven 2016-08-20T14:29:08 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZAlKsWj_U 2016-08-20T14:38:40 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ pff 2016-08-20T14:40:47 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-20T14:49:39 < Steffanx> Is your Qt/bluetooth/whatever stuff working reliable yet Laurenceb__? 2016-08-20T14:49:55 < Laurenceb__> the QBluetooth part works 2016-08-20T14:50:13 < Laurenceb__> Roving Network modules are utter fail but I've managed to make them "work" 2016-08-20T14:50:28 < Laurenceb__> by keeping datarate in one direction below 10 bytes/s 2016-08-20T14:51:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T14:55:20 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1VqcQms06I 2016-08-20T14:55:25 < Steffanx> lol 10bytes/s ?! 2016-08-20T14:55:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-20T14:56:11 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-20T14:56:32 < Laurenceb__> if I keep one direction below 10, I can manage about 8k in the other direction 2016-08-20T14:57:00 < Laurenceb__> thats just good enough to make the gui work, but it can get a little laggy 2016-08-20T14:57:23 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86FC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-08-20T15:01:48 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86FC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T15:06:24 < Steffanx> Stop doing drugs. 2016-08-20T15:09:59 < ReadError> crt back on that biker P 2016-08-20T15:13:04 < Laurenceb__> https://8ch.net/pol/src/1471686786801.jpg 2016-08-20T15:13:24 < Laurenceb__> status: facebooking to irish friends 2016-08-20T15:14:10 < Steffanx> Does racism exist in the duck world too crt? 2016-08-20T15:14:12 < Laurenceb__> crt: ur mum 2016-08-20T15:14:21 < Steffanx> Yellow, white, black .. 2016-08-20T15:14:25 < Laurenceb__> cuckduck 2016-08-20T15:14:44 < Steffanx> Excellent. 2016-08-20T15:14:48 < Steffanx> They asleep now? 2016-08-20T15:16:52 < Laurenceb__> https://8ch.net/pol/thumb/1471691004140.jpg 2016-08-20T15:17:20 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-20T15:17:22 < Laurenceb__> cuck duck family 2016-08-20T15:18:54 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T15:20:57 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-20T15:28:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.202] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T15:48:31 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-20T15:59:03 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iba7kCnkFos&feature=youtu.be 2016-08-20T15:59:10 < Laurenceb__> holy cows and crab apples 2016-08-20T16:15:48 < Steffanx> "internet first" yeah sure. 2016-08-20T16:25:05 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T16:40:24 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T16:58:07 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T16:58:19 < Rob235> mornin 2016-08-20T16:58:30 < Tectu> sssssshttt! 2016-08-20T16:58:37 < Tectu> people are sleeping, keep your voice down!! 2016-08-20T17:01:05 < Rob235> SORRY!! 2016-08-20T17:01:42 < Steffanx> Rob235 that crash video, was that really the entire flight you had with that thing? 2016-08-20T17:01:53 < Steffanx> also lol @ blurring. 2016-08-20T17:02:29 < Rob235> I had a couple before that where I didn't press so hard on the throttle and it flipped early so I tried pushing it the last time to be able to see what was going on :) 2016-08-20T17:02:30 < Tectu> link? 2016-08-20T17:02:58 < Rob235> I know it wasn't very smart but I needed an idea of what was going wrong 2016-08-20T17:03:28 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/bBulKne_R7c 2016-08-20T17:03:32 < Rob235> you havent seen it Tectu ? 2016-08-20T17:04:08 < Tectu> now I have 2016-08-20T17:04:12 < Tectu> lol @ pixelation 2016-08-20T17:04:23 < Rob235> I don't want my face on a fail like that :) 2016-08-20T17:04:42 < Tectu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqrjCZ27M3w 2016-08-20T17:04:50 < Tectu> you're gonna be the coolest in the disco :) 2016-08-20T17:05:03 < Rob235> ohhh yea 2016-08-20T17:11:19 < Tectu> did you get your new propellers yet, Mr. Rob235 ? 2016-08-20T17:11:48 < Rob235> I still have a full unbroken set, just not sure I want to do any more testing until I order more 2016-08-20T17:12:05 < ReadError> grab a 100 2016-08-20T17:12:27 < Tectu> better 3d print 2016-08-20T17:12:31 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] by ChanServ 2016-08-20T17:12:33 < Rob235> I was testing pid while holding the drone lying in bed and raised the PID gains by 10-15x and it feels like it should work now :) 2016-08-20T17:12:42 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] by ChanServ 2016-08-20T17:12:43 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] by ChanServ 2016-08-20T17:12:47 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] by ChanServ 2016-08-20T17:12:48 < Tectu> uhm? 2016-08-20T17:12:50 < Tectu> Steffanx ? 2016-08-20T17:13:25 < Rob235> that video is with P set to 0.1, I now have it set to 1.5 2016-08-20T17:13:28 < Rob235> brb 2016-08-20T17:13:38 < Tectu> are you just randomly trying values or... ? 2016-08-20T17:14:23 < ReadError> lol Rob235 you blurred that spot just for the last few frames? 2016-08-20T17:27:37 < Rob235> haha yea I meant to only do it at the end but forgot and said fuck it, I didn't care enough to redo it 2016-08-20T17:27:57 < Rob235> I thought starting low meant real low, so yea, in a way I kinda just guessed 2016-08-20T17:28:15 < Rob235> stupid mistake, wont happen again :) 2016-08-20T17:28:22 < ReadError> you can do some kind of suspension 2016-08-20T17:28:50 < ReadError> but get it above ground effect so easier 2016-08-20T17:28:58 < Rob235> yea thats the plan 2016-08-20T17:29:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.202] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-20T17:29:15 < Rob235> been thinking about what I can use to build it 2016-08-20T17:29:51 < Rob235> its just hard to connect to the hex on just the axis I'm testing 2016-08-20T17:30:48 < ReadError> yea tricky to do right 2016-08-20T17:30:56 < ReadError> you may start with just 1 axis 2016-08-20T17:31:02 < ReadError> covert it to a '+' in logic 2016-08-20T17:31:23 < ReadError> hmm needs more thought 2016-08-20T17:31:36 < Rob235> well I guess pitch and roll should be very close 2016-08-20T17:31:38 < ReadError> was going to say run a rope though the arms that dont have power 2016-08-20T17:31:57 < ReadError> then you just need 2 points and can tune an axis 2016-08-20T17:32:38 < ReadError> https://vimeo.com/25742413 2016-08-20T17:32:51 < ReadError> like dat 2016-08-20T17:33:02 < ReadError> gotta be taught so the props cant catch it 2016-08-20T17:34:40 < Rob235> yea 2016-08-20T17:34:58 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121.200.15.11] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-20T17:36:49 < Rob235> I set up something similar yesterday but got scared and didn't try it since it was my last set of props 2016-08-20T17:37:15 < Rob235> it was too low, so if/when it spun around the props would have hit the ground 2016-08-20T17:37:23 < Rob235> tough with a big hex 2016-08-20T17:37:36 < ReadError> yea, isolating it to 1 axis its pretty much impossible to fuck up 2016-08-20T17:37:54 < ReadError> and less shit happening 2016-08-20T17:38:25 < ReadError> guess you would have to disable the yaw/otheraxis pid or it could cause some fuckery 2016-08-20T17:39:19 < Rob235> does that give a final tuned PID or is it just stable enough to continue adjusting in flight? 2016-08-20T17:39:48 < ReadError> it will be close 2016-08-20T17:40:07 < ReadError> close enough to vet your PID anyways 2016-08-20T17:41:29 < Rob235> I'm wondering why the hex always took off backwards, I'm hoping it was just because it was sitting on the ground slightly uneven and the low gains messed it up 2016-08-20T17:41:44 < Rob235> but strange that it always took off in that direction 2016-08-20T17:41:48 < Rob235> might be something else up too 2016-08-20T17:44:44 < Rob235> I'm starting to second guess myself with my pid though... I don't use an outer/inner loop and I scale the output instead of clipping 2016-08-20T17:46:23 < Steffanx> i remember someone telling you not to do that, that last part. 2016-08-20T17:46:35 < Sync> yes 2016-08-20T17:46:44 < Rob235> I do too but I don't know if they actually had a reason 2016-08-20T17:46:52 < Sync> yes I had 2016-08-20T17:46:57 < Rob235> oh that was you? 2016-08-20T17:46:59 < Sync> but you were stubborn 2016-08-20T17:47:15 < Rob235> what was the reason? 2016-08-20T17:47:24 < Laurenceb__> product idea: JDAM for cardboard boxes 2016-08-20T17:47:30 < Laurenceb__> for amazon delivery 2016-08-20T17:47:48 < Rob235> ohhh, maybe I didn't want to convert to the adaptive integral method 2016-08-20T17:47:56 < Sync> that 2016-08-20T17:48:18 < Sync> and you were arguing that scaling the output would keep the ratios equal 2016-08-20T17:48:23 < Sync> which is not what you need 2016-08-20T17:48:38 < Sync> you are also changing overall system gain differently for each pid 2016-08-20T17:48:46 < Sync> which causes their output to not correspond 2016-08-20T17:49:15 < Rob235> I'm thinking I agree with that now because things seem ok when I hold the copter at low throttle but once I start going around 50% it doesn't seem to act correctly :) 2016-08-20T17:49:35 < Rob235> ok let me change that today 2016-08-20T17:49:49 < Rob235> the one loop should still be fine though 2016-08-20T17:49:53 < Sync> probably 2016-08-20T17:50:09 < Sync> but dynamic I clamping is what you need 2016-08-20T17:51:26 < Laurenceb__> wanna see some nasty PID? 2016-08-20T17:51:28 < Laurenceb__> http://pastebin.com/g7Q79pVz 2016-08-20T17:53:11 < Laurenceb__> part of my haxored firmware for https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/815IQuO7AmL._SL1500_.jpg 2016-08-20T17:53:23 < Laurenceb__> but that has to deal with stiction 2016-08-20T17:53:45 < Sync> stiction is feedforwardable 2016-08-20T17:54:30 < Rob235> you know what sucks? My leds held up fine with the crash but I broke a connection by trying to hold it in place for safe pid testing and now only half light up... 2016-08-20T17:54:33 < Sync> the fuck is that shit Laurenceb__ 2016-08-20T17:54:48 < Laurenceb__> Sync: nasty spaghetti code lol 2016-08-20T17:54:57 < Laurenceb__> I didn't write that part :P 2016-08-20T17:55:30 < Sync> yeah right 2016-08-20T17:55:31 < Tectu> int16_t a=PRESSURE_P_CONST*error+I+PRESSURE_D_CONST*(Reported_Pressure-old_pressure); 2016-08-20T17:55:35 < Tectu> that totally looks like you wrote it 2016-08-20T17:55:39 < Tectu> laurence code == no-spaces 2016-08-20T17:56:09 < Laurenceb__> I edited it and added comments :D 2016-08-20T17:56:29 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-20T17:57:29 < Steffanx> it's also code written by someone with schizophrenia. SO MANY coding styles. 2016-08-20T17:58:04 < Laurenceb__> cuz written by about 3 ppl 2016-08-20T17:58:07 < Tectu> that looks more like code that got initially copy-pasted from some stackoverflow answer 2016-08-20T17:58:16 < Tectu> then modified by 6 people during 3 years 2016-08-20T17:58:17 < Laurenceb__> teehee 2016-08-20T17:58:26 < Laurenceb__> that would be accurate 2016-08-20T17:58:48 < Laurenceb__> typical of commercial codez 2016-08-20T17:58:56 < Tectu> Laurenceb__ must love regex. no spaces. 2016-08-20T17:59:14 < Steffanx> Tectu didnt read about the part where one can add spaces yet? 2016-08-20T17:59:39 < Tectu> nope 2016-08-20T18:02:16 < Laurenceb__> moar commercial codez 2016-08-20T18:02:18 < Laurenceb__> http://pastebin.com/XK3QUqj0 2016-08-20T18:02:41 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T18:02:52 < Laurenceb__> self explanatory flow diagram amiright? 2016-08-20T18:03:05 < Steffanx> i feel sorry for you Laurenceb__. 2016-08-20T18:03:41 < Rob235> what do you have against spaces? 2016-08-20T18:04:00 < Laurenceb__> yup users are emailing me like "why is it giving flash code when I do ?" 2016-08-20T18:04:04 < Steffanx> im glad no one writes code like that where i work. 2016-08-20T18:04:34 < Laurenceb__> I'm sure that logic would be 100 times more readable with a simple state machine 2016-08-20T18:04:58 < Steffanx> but i mathlab i also wrote it like this. 2016-08-20T18:05:44 < kakimir> lunix 25years old 2016-08-20T18:05:49 < Laurenceb__> flashCode=FLASH_LOW_SIGNAL; //0x7805; 2016-08-20T18:05:51 < Laurenceb__> I lulled 2016-08-20T18:06:06 < Steffanx> kakimir 13 years old? 2016-08-20T18:06:22 < Laurenceb__> I step up from random chunks of hex I guess 2016-08-20T18:06:36 < kakimir> I just age half the speed Steffanx 2016-08-20T18:10:34 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-20T18:18:39 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-20T18:24:11 < Tectu> case sensitive usernames for logins are so fucking annoying 2016-08-20T18:24:13 < Tectu> 2016-08-20T18:32:09 < Steffanx> dont use caps. 2016-08-20T18:32:44 < zyp> that's what you get for having uppercase in your username 2016-08-20T18:33:21 -!- rewolff [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T18:39:18 < Tectu> can't argue against that :p 2016-08-20T18:41:31 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T18:47:08 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T18:47:49 -!- Sync [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-20T19:16:49 < Rob235> http://mashable.com/2016/08/19/batteries-twice-long/ this something that might actually happen? 2016-08-20T19:18:03 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-20T19:20:05 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-serfaogsuafurtcf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-20T19:24:04 < zyp> battery improvement is happening all the time 2016-08-20T19:24:06 < zyp> small steps 2016-08-20T19:25:15 < Rob235> yea I guess I'm just impatient 2016-08-20T19:25:47 < Rob235> where did Sync go? 2016-08-20T19:28:01 < Laurenceb__> flushed down the sync 2016-08-20T19:45:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-20T19:49:12 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-20T19:50:15 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T19:51:59 < gxti> bleh, finally have a use for i2s and f051 only does half duplex 2016-08-20T19:52:46 < Steffanx> what good use you have gxti? 2016-08-20T19:53:32 < gxti> it's something really weird actually. audio codec and spdif transceiver with i2s, and i want to multiplex serial data onto the right channel 2016-08-20T19:54:01 < Tectu> uhm 2016-08-20T19:54:03 < Rob235> if you modify a value and you know it could go out of range but another function that gets the value before it's used checks for that, would you check twice or let the final check do its job 2016-08-20T19:54:06 < Tectu> fun or actual use, gxti ? 2016-08-20T19:54:13 < gxti> why not both Tectu? 2016-08-20T19:54:19 < Tectu> gxti :D 2016-08-20T19:54:31 < gxti> audio on left channel, data on right 2016-08-20T19:59:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T20:08:02 < gxti> looks like all of the m0+ have only half duplex i2s... 2016-08-20T20:16:58 < Rob235> alright I took out the scaling from my motor mixer... 2016-08-20T20:36:03 < gxti> wtf, have to go to f4 to get full duplex i2s 2016-08-20T20:36:44 < Laurenceb__> prob to increase f4 sales 2016-08-20T20:36:59 < gxti> wouldn't they want to increase sales of newer shit 2016-08-20T20:38:58 < gxti> at least some of these have 2x or 3x i2s available 2016-08-20T20:40:07 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T20:40:41 < gxti> probably better if i figure out how to hack spi slave to do what i want instead... don't really want a beefy f3 or f4 just to put a few bytes of serial out 2016-08-20T21:15:27 -!- DrLuke__ is now known as DrLuke 2016-08-20T21:15:33 < Rob235> drone appears to be hovering now 2016-08-20T21:16:03 < Rob235> tied it up and its a little wobbly at times but I think its from prop wash and the bungee I'm using 2016-08-20T21:19:04 < Steffanx> or oscillation because the tuning isnt optimal yet 2016-08-20T21:19:33 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-20T21:20:02 < Rob235> could be but can't tell yet 2016-08-20T21:25:18 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has quit [] 2016-08-20T21:25:27 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T21:26:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.226] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T21:40:23 < Rob235> yea I think the gains are a bit too high 2016-08-20T21:41:53 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/RbnJcjW4ikw sorry for the shitty video, hard to do everything with only 2 hands 2016-08-20T21:45:26 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T21:49:20 < Steffanx> better do cut the cloths of your gf :P 2016-08-20T21:50:18 < Tectu> nice Rob235 ! 2016-08-20T21:50:29 < Rob235> thanks 2016-08-20T21:50:39 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-20T21:53:51 < Rob235> it seems to respond to the joystick being pushed down (front of copter goes up) a lot more than the other way... not sure what that is about 2016-08-20T21:54:02 < Rob235> i'll have to do more testing to make sure thats really whats going on 2016-08-20T21:59:31 < syke> can you read receiver data or transmitter data, how far the stick travels 2016-08-20T22:00:00 < Rob235> maybe I should invest in a data logger 2016-08-20T22:33:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-20T22:54:07 < kakimir> duck hunt 2016-08-20T22:56:14 < kakimir> 2 shots 2 drops 2016-08-20T22:58:58 < kakimir> multiple beers downed 2016-08-20T23:05:28 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775d36.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T23:07:37 < Steffanx> < kakimir> internet without chain of reference is just random trash 2016-08-20T23:11:38 < Laurenceb__> http://lhopkins.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/image-8.jpeg 2016-08-20T23:26:41 < kakimir> rocket engines Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-20T23:26:49 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-20T23:26:58 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/slXlSCL.jpg 2016-08-20T23:27:46 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-20T23:29:29 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-20T23:47:23 -!- mattbrej1a is now known as mattbrejza 2016-08-20T23:58:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Aug 21 2016 2016-08-21T00:13:13 < kakimir> ther basically is no fatties in japan 2016-08-21T00:13:17 < kakimir> just a few 2016-08-21T00:14:05 < Laurenceb__> their metabolism is different 2016-08-21T00:14:32 < kakimir> how I have not seen this 2016-08-21T00:14:49 < Laurenceb__> cuz its ebil and racist to discuss 2016-08-21T00:16:13 < Laurenceb__> more brown fat 2016-08-21T00:16:34 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_adipose_tissue 2016-08-21T00:17:14 < kakimir> I'm sligtly fat 2016-08-21T00:17:47 < kakimir> that tummy thing going on 2016-08-21T00:18:07 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: how do you know all this? 2016-08-21T00:18:42 < Laurenceb__> cuz I do medical sensing stuff 2016-08-21T00:34:24 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-21T00:40:52 < Laurenceb__> http://s4.b3ta.com/host/creative/84793/1471718487/nice.jpg 2016-08-21T00:43:52 < Steffanx> is it really only metabolism and not being more aware about what they eat than we/western fast food junkies Laurenceb__? 2016-08-21T00:44:14 < Laurenceb__> both 2016-08-21T00:45:19 < Laurenceb__> grrr someone stole my ideas again 2016-08-21T00:45:21 < Laurenceb__> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/09/13/33FAA11700000578-3580344-image-a-37_1462798505279.jpg 2016-08-21T00:45:23 < Steffanx> time for your daily push ups kakimir :p 2016-08-21T00:45:40 < Steffanx> what that thing dropping? 2016-08-21T00:45:44 < Steffanx> *what's 2016-08-21T00:45:55 < Laurenceb__> a practical version of amazon prime air 2016-08-21T00:46:07 < Laurenceb__> box with ballute and precision release 2016-08-21T00:46:35 < Laurenceb__> looks like some sort of hook tool too, looks very smart but prob patented to death 2016-08-21T00:47:50 < Laurenceb__> heh this is done by ups 2016-08-21T00:48:05 < Laurenceb__> you'd hope they would be more sane than Amazon 2016-08-21T00:49:57 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86FC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-21T00:50:34 < Steffanx> The next big step would be teleportation. No one can beat the speed of that. Except with time travelling. 2016-08-21T00:50:58 < Steffanx> have your patents ready for that Laurenceb__? 2016-08-21T00:53:34 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-21T00:57:16 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86FC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:03:20 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:21 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:22 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:22 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:37 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:38 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:39 -!- obnauticus_ [~obnauticu@192.241.240.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:40 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:03:45 -!- ReadErrrr [ReadError@pls.hold.4the.lol] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:04:10 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:04:10 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-21T01:04:24 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:05:21 -!- kakimir [~kakeman@sienimetsa.wtf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:07:26 -!- SpaceCoaster [~SpaceCoas@c-75-69-135-239.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:08:51 -!- Lt_Lemming [~Lt_Lemmin@128.199.211.147] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:10:01 -!- obnauticus [~obnauticu@192.241.240.229] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:16:42 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:16:59 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:17:02 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:46:04 < Rob235> hmmm 2016-08-21T01:52:03 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T01:54:49 -!- funnel [~funnel@unaffiliated/espiral] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T01:57:00 < Lux> Steffanx: not in our lifetime 2016-08-21T02:09:34 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-21T02:14:55 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@174.115.214.49] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T02:27:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T02:30:18 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-21T02:34:59 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T02:40:10 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T02:43:57 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T02:44:58 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-21T02:48:52 < anton02> im assuming post of you who've made your own stm32 PCBs just took the discovery PCB schematics from stm32s website and then removed the things you didn't need 2016-08-21T02:49:14 < anton02> most* 2016-08-21T02:50:17 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T02:52:47 < Thorn> sure. I mean, nobody would use a "getting started with hardware development" appnote (such as AN4488 for stm32f4), right? 2016-08-21T02:55:21 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T03:14:08 < ReadError> fedex cucks 2016-08-21T03:14:16 < ReadError> oh hey ur package is coming today 2016-08-21T03:14:21 < ReadError> jk 2016-08-21T03:15:00 < ReadError> ofc its something that requires a sig too 2016-08-21T03:15:54 < gxti> anyone done spi slave before? can you write to the register while nss is high and have it be ready to go when nss goes low? 2016-08-21T03:17:06 < Lux> depends on how you configure it 2016-08-21T03:17:24 < Lux> if you select hardware nss it'll ignore data when it's high 2016-08-21T03:17:33 < Lux> in slave mode 2016-08-21T03:19:22 < Lux> gxti: on f3 and f0 you can definetly do that 2016-08-21T03:19:31 < Lux> they have a 32bit buffer iirc 2016-08-21T03:20:22 < Lux> easiest is just to use dma with it 2016-08-21T03:20:40 < gxti> great. because i'm doing weird shit and there's half a clock between nss going low and the first rising edge 2016-08-21T03:23:24 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: soon UPS will just bomb you with packages 2016-08-21T03:25:36 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ they do already, amazon prime 2016-08-21T03:25:38 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d43a63.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T03:26:15 < Laurenceb__> yeah but thats not bombing 2016-08-21T03:26:27 < Laurenceb__> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/05/09/13/33FAA11700000578-3580344-image-a-37_1462798505279.jpg 2016-08-21T03:26:51 < ReadError> pfff 2016-08-21T03:26:55 < ReadError> not.gon.happen 2016-08-21T03:27:23 < ReadError> firstly I dont want my shit falling to the ground, UPS breaks enough shit already 2016-08-21T03:27:43 < ReadError> anything glass you order in qty, 1/5 is broken always 2016-08-21T03:27:47 < gxti> those have parachutes though which is more than you can say now 2016-08-21T03:27:58 < gxti> might be an improvement 2016-08-21T03:28:02 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-21T03:28:12 < ReadError> less boots kicking it along its way 2016-08-21T03:28:17 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d42c9c.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T03:28:33 < ReadError> but the idea of drone delivery isnt even economical or practical 2016-08-21T03:28:42 < ReadError> unless its some life saving kinda stuff 2016-08-21T03:29:00 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-21T03:30:56 < Laurenceb__> I dunno 2016-08-21T03:31:37 < Laurenceb__> say the drone costs $10k 2016-08-21T03:31:47 < Laurenceb__> makes 25 deliveries per day for 5 years 2016-08-21T03:32:16 < ReadError> right, whats their round trip range and capacity ? 2016-08-21T03:32:20 < Laurenceb__> $0.3 per delivery 2016-08-21T03:32:22 < Laurenceb__> ok price 2016-08-21T03:32:31 < ReadError> within what radius 2016-08-21T03:32:37 < ReadError> also riddle me this sherlock 2016-08-21T03:32:46 < ReadError> if an amazon place is close enough for a drone to fly to me 2016-08-21T03:32:54 < Laurenceb__> thats about 30km range 2016-08-21T03:32:58 < ReadError> why cant I just run by and grab my shit from a box 2016-08-21T03:33:06 < ReadError> or have some guy drive it to me? 2016-08-21T03:33:11 < Laurenceb__> cuz you are a lazy basement dwelling fuck 2016-08-21T03:33:17 < Laurenceb__> hypothetically of course 2016-08-21T03:33:17 < ReadError> im upstairs, k 2016-08-21T03:33:24 < Lux> I bet maintainance is a lot more than 10k over the years 2016-08-21T03:33:32 < ReadError> yea bullshit on 10k 2016-08-21T03:33:42 < ReadError> seems way too low of a figure 2016-08-21T03:33:51 < ReadError> when its all said and done anyways 2016-08-21T03:34:04 < Laurenceb__> ok so $10 for new drone 2016-08-21T03:34:10 < jadew> anyone got something by drone yet? 2016-08-21T03:34:22 < ReadError> just cuts and negative $$ 2016-08-21T03:34:31 < Laurenceb__> then 1kW power for 25 minutes or so 2016-08-21T03:34:41 < Laurenceb__> thats like nothing much power cost wise 2016-08-21T03:35:01 < Laurenceb__> hmm guess the battery wear might dominate costs 2016-08-21T03:35:06 < ReadError> hows that even work in a city? 2016-08-21T03:35:31 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@174.115.214.49] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-21T03:35:33 < Laurenceb__> might be practical depending on CEP - the delivery radius 2016-08-21T03:36:59 < Lux> + imo the whole safe navigation stuff still has to be figured out 2016-08-21T03:37:03 < Laurenceb__> ok so perhaps $0.26 for battery wear 2016-08-21T03:37:10 < Laurenceb__> 0.30 drone depreciation 2016-08-21T03:37:15 < Laurenceb__> 0.04 for power 2016-08-21T03:37:31 < Laurenceb__> thats $0.60 per delivery, not so bad 2016-08-21T03:37:35 < ReadError> if anything ground vehicles make more sense 2016-08-21T03:37:42 < ReadError> autonomous 2016-08-21T03:37:43 < jadew> "don't leave the kids out, I ordered something from amazon" 2016-08-21T03:37:51 < ReadError> maybe they can taxi people around 2016-08-21T03:37:56 < ReadError> based on shortest path etc 2016-08-21T03:38:07 < ReadError> amazon is all about that optimization 2016-08-21T03:38:08 < Laurenceb__> I was actually wondeirng how to do this properly 2016-08-21T03:38:18 < ReadError> do what 2016-08-21T03:38:21 < Lux> just wait until tesla has it's autonomous fleet running 2016-08-21T03:38:23 < jadew> the safety part? 2016-08-21T03:38:26 < Laurenceb__> drone delivery 2016-08-21T03:38:32 < Laurenceb__> thats safe and practical 2016-08-21T03:38:42 < ReadError> I just dont see how something falling from the sky, is going to end up on my porch 2016-08-21T03:38:46 < Laurenceb__> I figured something like that box bomber 2016-08-21T03:38:49 < jadew> I think that once you get safety down, everything else would just work 2016-08-21T03:38:53 < jadew> even if the price is higher 2016-08-21T03:38:57 < jadew> say... 20k total 2016-08-21T03:39:03 < Laurenceb__> but with a beacon on the ground 2016-08-21T03:39:05 < jadew> it's still better than hireing someone 2016-08-21T03:39:16 < Laurenceb__> with ism band comms, ir proximity beacon and pir sensor 2016-08-21T03:39:31 < jadew> so drone delivery is definitely worth it from a company's point of view 2016-08-21T03:39:37 < Laurenceb__> so the drone has to be able to ping the beacon and the beacon says thats area is clear 2016-08-21T03:39:58 < Laurenceb__> then drone goes into dive to realease box like in the UPS concept 2016-08-21T03:40:08 < jadew> Laurenceb__, what do you do when you get RF noise that prevents communication? 2016-08-21T03:40:14 < jadew> the drone has to be autonomous 2016-08-21T03:40:19 < ReadError> what if theres trees 2016-08-21T03:40:19 < Laurenceb__> jadew: cancel delivery 2016-08-21T03:40:22 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-21T03:40:25 < ReadError> or a fast moving slow child 2016-08-21T03:40:25 < jadew> that's what I was going to say 2016-08-21T03:40:27 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: sites are pre approved 2016-08-21T03:40:32 < Laurenceb__> after overflight with lidar 2016-08-21T03:40:33 < jadew> at least it should be able to come back by itself 2016-08-21T03:41:04 < ReadError> so explain this then trollenceb 2016-08-21T03:41:11 < Laurenceb__> drone completely autonamous, has camera with reference photo comparison to cancel if someone put up a big mast or there are people on the ground 2016-08-21T03:41:11 < ReadError> why is air better than autonomous ground? 2016-08-21T03:41:24 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: simpler and safer 2016-08-21T03:41:29 < ReadError> assuming everything on the ground was autonmous 2016-08-21T03:41:31 < Laurenceb__> less risk of people pissing about with it 2016-08-21T03:41:38 < Laurenceb__> anyways 2016-08-21T03:41:44 < jadew> and shorter distances 2016-08-21T03:41:46 < ReadError> they can have autolanes 2016-08-21T03:41:47 < Laurenceb__> so package is dropped from like 30m 2016-08-21T03:41:48 < jadew> + faster 2016-08-21T03:42:02 < Laurenceb__> on ballistic trajectory at like 40m/s 2016-08-21T03:42:07 < ReadError> ok so consider this 2016-08-21T03:42:12 < ReadError> NY has a shitload of people 2016-08-21T03:42:13 < Laurenceb__> as drone is near bottom of dive 2016-08-21T03:42:22 < ReadError> they are going to still have to queue stuff 2016-08-21T03:42:29 < ReadError> theres no 1 drone per child program 2016-08-21T03:42:48 < Laurenceb__> then it has 2L pop bottle filled with compressed air and a polythene ballute 2016-08-21T03:42:52 < ReadError> where as a ground based delivery system can analyze the destinations 2016-08-21T03:43:05 < ReadError> and take the appropriate stuff 2016-08-21T03:43:05 < Laurenceb__> when box is released the ir proximity beacon fires up 2016-08-21T03:43:37 < Laurenceb__> ir sensor on the box fires a pyro valve on the pop bottle to inflate the ballute about 7m off the ground 2016-08-21T03:43:47 < Laurenceb__> for soft and safe lading with minimal wind drift 2016-08-21T03:44:04 < ReadError> yea putting explosives on drones that fly over people is an excellent idea 2016-08-21T03:44:06 < Laurenceb__> I got as far as writing a simulation of this.. one day I'll build a prototype pop bottle thing 2016-08-21T03:44:09 < ReadError> forest fires never happen 2016-08-21T03:44:11 < Laurenceb__> heh I think it is 2016-08-21T03:44:13 < ReadError> ask canada 2016-08-21T03:44:22 < Laurenceb__> like 0.1g of splosives 2016-08-21T03:44:38 < Laurenceb__> xplosives solve many engineering problems safely, just look at your car 2016-08-21T03:45:02 < ReadError> sure, but cars typically dont end up in trees that catch fire 2016-08-21T03:45:23 < ReadError> the issue in canada was RESIDENTIAL trees 2016-08-21T03:45:34 < ReadError> spelling w/e 2016-08-21T03:46:54 < Laurenceb__> I think disposable airbags type system + total drone costs could be <$1 per delivery 2016-08-21T03:47:01 < Laurenceb__> for up to about 2.5Kg payload 2016-08-21T03:50:34 < Rob235> don't you know that's the only reason I built my drone? 2016-08-21T03:50:45 < Laurenceb__> typical murcian 2016-08-21T03:51:44 < Laurenceb__> murica has this effect, my dad is the most liberal pro obama guy ever yet my half brother (lives in us) is an nra member 2016-08-21T03:52:14 < Laurenceb__> causing epin family butthurt 2016-08-21T03:53:11 < Laurenceb__> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13939377_10153828845128513_2541247557872753022_n.jpg?oh=fcafe8d8b61da22bc2c44f0c8e974fe8&oe=584FE55A 2016-08-21T03:53:46 < Laurenceb__> https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14045629_10154387742677604_922059681631823914_n.jpg?oh=597ec531e1fb56aecd15428d7a907194&oe=5842828A 2016-08-21T03:56:41 < Laurenceb__> even moar half baked than my delivery system 2016-08-21T03:56:42 < Laurenceb__> https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/08/20/194237/can-cow-backpacks-reduce-global-methane-emissions 2016-08-21T03:59:14 < Laurenceb__> http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3105 2016-08-21T04:00:17 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T04:01:53 * Laurenceb__ contemplates gas flares for cows 2016-08-21T04:09:00 < Laurenceb__> hmm drone delivery is probably a non starter in US due to the way private property laws are drafted 2016-08-21T04:09:07 < Laurenceb__> well not my problem lol 2016-08-21T04:09:22 < Laurenceb__> <400feet is private property and there is no getting ground it 2016-08-21T04:11:22 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-21T04:11:27 < Laurenceb__> amazon pwnd 2016-08-21T04:20:29 < ReadError> lol wtf fedex just came 2016-08-21T04:20:33 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ false 2016-08-21T04:20:50 < ReadError> FAA says you dont own shit above the highest structure 2016-08-21T04:22:49 < Laurenceb__> wut 2016-08-21T04:23:14 < Laurenceb__> I thought this was like a supreme court ruling? 2016-08-21T04:23:25 < Laurenceb__> <- too lazy to actually look shit up 2016-08-21T04:24:14 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d43ffa.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T04:25:18 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-08-21T04:26:46 < upgrdman> typical polish woman https://i.redd.it/xsye4b93qcgx.jpg 2016-08-21T04:27:03 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d43a63.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T04:30:06 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@86.173.255.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-21T04:31:53 < aandrew> lol 2016-08-21T04:37:42 < jadew> I just learned something interesting 2016-08-21T04:38:09 < jadew> back in the day when there were only a handful of viruses available, AV companies were making lots of money when a new virus came out 2016-08-21T04:38:26 < jadew> that's a big incentive to get a new virus out :) 2016-08-21T04:39:25 < jadew> I wonder for how many viruses they are responsible 2016-08-21T04:40:05 < jadew> I mean, if you were able to get a bunch of viruses out and your AV was able to defeat them, then you would put a dent in the competition 2016-08-21T04:40:42 < jadew> a virus war between AV companies seems almost unavoidable 2016-08-21T04:41:36 < jadew> this kind of answers the question of "who has any interrest in building those shitty viruses to begin with?" 2016-08-21T04:42:41 < jadew> knowing human nature, I think it's very likely that this is what happened 2016-08-21T04:43:30 < jadew> an industry that fuels itself, that's a good business model 2016-08-21T04:45:51 < jadew> seems like I'm not the only one who had this idea 2016-08-21T04:52:52 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775d36.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T04:53:22 < jadew> heh 2016-08-21T05:05:27 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d59.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T05:05:47 < jadew> thanks for ruining MIT for me 2016-08-21T05:34:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-21T05:35:48 < jadew> for MIT? 2016-08-21T05:36:14 < jadew> or in the army? 2016-08-21T05:37:02 < jadew> no, I was planning to when I was young, but didn't have to money to take the SAT and TOEFL 2016-08-21T05:37:13 < jadew> by the time I was able to do that, I already had a career going on 2016-08-21T05:38:17 < jadew> *the money 2016-08-21T05:38:28 < jadew> it's one of my biggest regrets 2016-08-21T05:46:52 < jadew> that's like 3 years of school, no? 2016-08-21T05:47:46 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T05:48:47 < Thorn> https://youtu.be/vOI6OCHerUI?t=37s 2016-08-21T05:49:02 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vpi784brklxoy.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T05:50:52 < jadew> I hope they set the AC to recycle the air inside 2016-08-21T05:50:59 < jadew> ah 2016-08-21T05:51:04 < jadew> they're stupid 2016-08-21T05:51:52 < jadew> davai davai 2016-08-21T05:52:34 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28v2negy1uivdds.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-21T05:53:21 < jadew> I don't get it 2016-08-21T05:57:12 -!- gxti [~gxti@columbia.partiallystapled.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T05:57:20 -!- gxti [~gxti@columbia.partiallystapled.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T05:59:40 -!- skroon_ [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T06:03:31 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T06:12:36 < upgrdman> shit r2com, cant you afford a gtx1080? 2016-08-21T06:13:11 < PeterM> iirc some of the cheaper quadro cards do it 2016-08-21T06:13:35 < PeterM> fucked if i know, been a long time since i looked 2016-08-21T06:27:29 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-21T06:27:39 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T06:29:40 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T06:30:53 < ReadError> 1060 does 2016-08-21T06:31:33 < jadew> I chose mine based on power consumption 2016-08-21T06:32:33 < ReadError> not based on your needs? 2016-08-21T06:32:56 < jadew> well, had to support my 3 monitors and my needs are not that great when it comes to graphics 2016-08-21T06:32:57 < PeterM> well if he needs low power... 2016-08-21T06:33:04 < jadew> so 3 outputs and low power 2016-08-21T06:34:02 < jadew> I wanted to get my power usage from 200+ Watts to ~100, I'm at 120-130 now 2016-08-21T06:34:22 < PeterM> lies 2016-08-21T06:34:23 < jadew> and my UPS can sustain my PC for 45 minutes now 2016-08-21T06:34:35 < jadew> from the usual 20 2016-08-21T06:34:50 < ReadError> 100w and usable? 2016-08-21T06:34:58 < PeterM> 3 monitors and 120w, thats pretty bullshit imho 2016-08-21T06:35:09 < jadew> ah, I'm not measuring the monitors 2016-08-21T06:35:16 < jadew> in fact I am measuring one of them 2016-08-21T06:35:20 < jadew> cuz only one goes through the UPS 2016-08-21T06:35:21 < ReadError> how many disk? 2016-08-21T06:35:31 < jadew> so the PC must be using something like 110? 2016-08-21T06:35:44 < PeterM> nah monitors use shitloads 2016-08-21T06:35:45 < jadew> ReadError, 5 2016-08-21T06:35:54 < ReadError> jadew thats prolly 50w alone in use 2016-08-21T06:35:57 < jadew> PeterM, more than 25 Watts? 2016-08-21T06:36:06 < PeterM> ive got some 27"4ks and they use like 50w ea 2016-08-21T06:36:32 < jadew> I can actually test this 2016-08-21T06:36:35 < jadew> I can turn on off 2016-08-21T06:36:44 < jadew> (I hope it won't screw up my icons) 2016-08-21T06:36:44 < PeterM> my older 27" 1440p monitors used like 75w 2016-08-21T06:36:56 < PeterM> if you dont unplug it'll be fine 2016-08-21T06:36:59 < ReadError> jadew what is in your machine? 2016-08-21T06:38:16 < jadew> ReadErrrr, like.. everything? 2016-08-21T06:38:48 < ReadError> no like cpu/gpu 2016-08-21T06:39:08 < jadew> 4 HDDs, 1 SSD, CPU Phenom x2 1100T, one GTX750 Ti GPU since the upgrade (used to have two), one audio card 2016-08-21T06:39:37 < jadew> the old GPUs ate a lot of power 2016-08-21T06:39:43 < ReadError> whats it pull at full bore 2016-08-21T06:39:53 < jadew> don't know 2016-08-21T06:40:12 < jadew> probably 250 Watts? 2016-08-21T06:40:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-21T06:41:37 < jadew> I was right about the monitors 2016-08-21T06:41:48 < jadew> turned it off and the consumption dropped by 20 W 2016-08-21T06:42:06 < jadew> it's a 19" monitor that I run at 1024x768 2016-08-21T06:42:09 < jadew> I have two of those 2016-08-21T06:42:36 < jadew> the other one is a 24" @ 1920x1080 2016-08-21T06:43:12 < PeterM> how do you get anything done? 2016-08-21T06:43:23 < jadew> what do you mean? 2016-08-21T06:43:57 < jadew> seems underpowered? 2016-08-21T06:44:25 < ReadError> holy balls 2016-08-21T06:44:29 < PeterM> no like you'd spend 90% of your tiem moving windows and shit around 2016-08-21T06:44:32 < ReadError> apps still run in 1024x768 ? 2016-08-21T06:44:43 < PeterM> ^ 2016-08-21T06:44:57 < jadew> PeterM, I don't move them, they stay on their own monitors :P 2016-08-21T06:45:14 < jadew> sure they do and I find it more pleasant 2016-08-21T06:45:14 < ReadError> do you use negative display scaling? 2016-08-21T06:45:26 < jadew> no, I actually scale the 1080p one up 2016-08-21T06:45:39 < PeterM> are you blind? 2016-08-21T06:45:40 < ReadError> oh dear 2016-08-21T06:45:42 < jadew> haha 2016-08-21T06:46:15 < jadew> I find the 1024x768 monospace text for example to be perfect 2016-08-21T06:46:40 < jadew> courier new looks weird on higher resolution 2016-08-21T06:46:42 < jadew> too skinny 2016-08-21T06:46:56 < jadew> most fonts look weird 2016-08-21T06:47:44 < jadew> when I read something in the browser, I prefer to read it on one of the 1024x768 monitors 2016-08-21T06:47:55 < jadew> if I browse youtube, I'll use the 1080p one 2016-08-21T06:48:21 < PeterM> confirmed, jadew = blind 2016-08-21T06:48:27 < jadew> hehe 2016-08-21T06:48:47 < jadew> I also don't stay as close to the monitor as most people do 2016-08-21T06:49:48 < jadew> I just measured 136 cm from my eyes to the IRC window 2016-08-21T06:50:17 < PeterM> did it hurt? 2016-08-21T06:50:39 < jadew> I was careful 2016-08-21T06:51:20 < jadew> most people seem to use the monitor from 50-60cm 2016-08-21T06:52:35 < upgrdman> 1.36m? wtf. 2016-08-21T06:52:53 < upgrdman> monitor and you on opposite ends of dinner table or someshit? 2016-08-21T06:52:58 < jadew> haha 2016-08-21T06:53:16 < jadew> well, for one, I don't keep my keyboard on the desk, I keep it in my lap 2016-08-21T06:53:33 < upgrdman> im prolly like 1.36m from my 55" tv 2016-08-21T06:53:40 < jadew> haha 2016-08-21T06:53:55 < PeterM> im like 760cm from my monitors ands that seems... long-ish 2016-08-21T06:53:59 < PeterM> *70 2016-08-21T06:54:07 < upgrdman> 760 lol 2016-08-21T06:54:23 < jadew> do you guys keep the keyboard on the desk? 2016-08-21T06:54:29 < upgrdman> ya 2016-08-21T06:54:37 < PeterM> mmhm 2016-08-21T06:54:46 < jadew> I think that's where the difference is 2016-08-21T06:54:57 < PeterM> nah, the difference is we're not retarded 2016-08-21T06:55:20 < jadew> :/ 2016-08-21T06:55:32 < jadew> it's how I've been doing it since ever 2016-08-21T06:55:43 < upgrdman> but like how can you see 2016-08-21T06:55:50 < upgrdman> pixels like 1cm wide? 2016-08-21T06:55:54 < ReadError> where do you keep the mouse? 2016-08-21T06:55:59 < jadew> ok, let me take a photo 2016-08-21T06:56:25 < PeterM> im curious to see how horrible this is 2016-08-21T06:57:03 < PeterM> it'll be liek 480x320 2016-08-21T06:57:22 < PeterM> photos only look good i nthe sub megapixel range 2016-08-21T06:57:25 < upgrdman> @24Hz 2016-08-21T06:57:38 < PeterM> nah 16 colour bmp 2016-08-21T06:59:10 < jadew> http://dumb.ro/files/desk.jpg 2016-08-21T06:59:37 < upgrdman> o 2016-08-21T07:00:00 < upgrdman> 4:3 master race huh 2016-08-21T07:00:02 < upgrdman> :) 2016-08-21T07:00:11 < jadew> yeah, I totally love them 2016-08-21T07:00:19 < upgrdman> why is there a web cam aimed at your crotch location? 2016-08-21T07:00:20 < jadew> I wouldn't be able to fit wide ones anyway 2016-08-21T07:00:30 < jadew> upgrdman, haha 2016-08-21T07:00:40 < jadew> I guess I knocked it when I dusted 2016-08-21T07:01:01 < upgrdman> doesnt even deny it :) ahaha 2016-08-21T07:01:18 < jadew> PeterM, does it look that bad? 2016-08-21T07:01:50 < PeterM> jadew yes, it looks worse actually 2016-08-21T07:01:53 < jadew> + I think it makes it easier on the eyes, not to stare directly into that light 2016-08-21T07:02:00 < jadew> why? 2016-08-21T07:02:04 < upgrdman> dim the light 2016-08-21T07:02:13 < upgrdman> like most of my monitors are <30% brightness 2016-08-21T07:02:15 < jadew> upgrdman, it's pretty dim anyway 2016-08-21T07:02:17 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-21T07:02:18 < jadew> same here 2016-08-21T07:04:14 < PeterM> how do i need to explain why it is terrible? sure if you like 4:3 then get a 1200x1600 20" or something or if you like that pixel density, get some scaling but there is no reason to use shitty low res monitors, and that doesnt look 1.36m, not unless you are always 100% fully back in your chair at all times, in which case you shouldnt have a desk because you wouldnt be able to reach naything on it 2016-08-21T07:05:04 < jadew> PeterM, actually, I am always fully back 2016-08-21T07:05:11 < jadew> and the mouse is very much in reach 2016-08-21T07:05:28 < jadew> I don't need to reach anything else 2016-08-21T07:07:13 < jadew> oh and another thing 2016-08-21T07:07:37 < jadew> if I stayed closer, moving my eyes from one monitor to the next would be annoying 2016-08-21T07:07:41 < ReadError> 2 copies of mirc 2016-08-21T07:07:43 < ReadError> nice ;) 2016-08-21T07:07:45 < jadew> it's why I don't have 4 2016-08-21T07:07:53 < jadew> ReadError, hehe, yeah, one is for work :) 2016-08-21T07:07:58 < ReadError> jadew, double stack 2016-08-21T07:08:01 < ReadError> 2x2 2016-08-21T07:08:38 < jadew> ReadError, thought about that but I'm not sure I'll enjoy looking up either 2016-08-21T07:08:44 < ReadError> I got that same PSU 2016-08-21T07:08:48 < ReadError> 2 of em actually 2016-08-21T07:08:50 < jadew> which one? 2016-08-21T07:08:56 < ReadError> the korad 2016-08-21T07:08:57 < PeterM> i used to run this setup for the longest time http://i.imgur.com/HFnOhca.jpg it was fine as far as looking around went 2016-08-21T07:09:08 < PeterM> that was before i swapped to 3x 27" 2016-08-21T07:09:27 < jadew> PeterM, that angle looks way too small 2016-08-21T07:09:28 < PeterM> thats jsut for computer work, ive a seperate bench for electronics 2016-08-21T07:09:41 < jadew> or too high I guess, depends on how you measure 2016-08-21T07:09:52 < jadew> I have mine at ~25 degrees 2016-08-21T07:09:58 < ReadError> damn PeterM got one of those pro gamer hand controllers 2016-08-21T07:10:09 < PeterM> yeah awesome for layout and shizz 2016-08-21T07:10:27 < jadew> ReadError, it's a good supply, I like it 2016-08-21T07:10:31 < Thorn> why all the webcams? extra income from chaturbate.com or something? 2016-08-21T07:10:42 < ReadError> jadew, ya not had any issues out of mine 2016-08-21T07:10:47 < ReadError> fans louder than the rigol but w/e 2016-08-21T07:10:52 < jadew> me neither 2016-08-21T07:11:07 < PeterM> Thorn, often people like interviews and shit, and workign remotely people like to see boards and shit 2016-08-21T07:11:40 < Thorn> https://chaturbate.com/peterm/ ok 2016-08-21T07:12:22 < PeterM> jadew the angle is fine, usually i have layout on the middle monitor, irs on left and schem on right, so i only look at the m,iddle monitor maybe 70% of the time 2016-08-21T07:12:44 < PeterM> then glance left and right when needed 2016-08-21T07:13:23 < jadew> see, from my point of view, it's better if you have a bit more distance, because that whole glacing becomes easier 2016-08-21T07:13:29 < jadew> when I work, I use all 3 monitors sometimes 2016-08-21T07:13:44 < jadew> would probably give me nausea if I stayed closer 2016-08-21T07:15:05 < PeterM> yeah but doign layout on a tiny monitor would make me want to eat glass. 2016-08-21T07:15:22 < jadew> yeah, when I do PCB layout, I tend to get closer too 2016-08-21T07:15:25 < jadew> and I do it on the middle one 2016-08-21T07:17:26 < jadew> btw, something I find very funny 2016-08-21T07:17:41 < jadew> my 19" monitors are taller than the 24" one 2016-08-21T07:17:50 < jadew> (the viewing area is taller by a few mm) 2016-08-21T07:22:42 < jadew> heh, I have no problem playing it on the TV 2016-08-21T07:23:07 < jadew> I'm getting good at it again 2016-08-21T07:23:27 < jadew> playing super mario almost every night 2016-08-21T07:24:56 < jadew> no 2016-08-21T07:25:08 < jadew> but it doesn't look bad 2016-08-21T07:47:26 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T07:48:28 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T08:22:43 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T08:28:03 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-08-21T08:30:32 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T08:36:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T08:37:57 -!- scrts_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-21T08:47:48 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T09:10:29 < upgrdman> crt, i was expecting the guy to turn on the sinks garbage disposal 2016-08-21T09:34:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-21T09:42:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T10:06:42 < ReadError> the internet has ruin't u 2016-08-21T10:29:13 < ReadError> https://newsroom.intel.com/newsroom/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2016/08/intel-joule-fact-sheet.pdf 2016-08-21T10:29:31 < ReadError> lol gumstix 2016-08-21T10:29:39 < ReadError> theres a word I havent heard in a long ass time 2016-08-21T10:30:20 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T10:32:03 < owl-v-> what do you think of this circuit printer?? --> https://agic.cc/en/industrial/ink-kit 2016-08-21T10:33:25 < owl-v-> it's not really printer they are selling but you can use their special ink. 2016-08-21T10:49:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.248] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T10:53:43 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-21T10:54:25 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T11:14:16 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T11:14:24 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vpi784brklxoy.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T11:17:38 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vpi784brklxoy.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-21T11:19:09 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-21T11:35:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T12:02:34 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T12:21:46 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28utyshsdg75svp.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T12:22:48 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28vpi784brklxoy.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-21T12:49:30 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T12:52:12 -!- skroon_ [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T13:10:20 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-21T13:23:15 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-21T13:40:41 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T13:49:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-21T13:57:32 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T13:59:56 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T13:59:57 < Tectu> Hi folks o/ 2016-08-21T14:00:56 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-21T14:16:19 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-21T14:17:00 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T14:31:04 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T14:31:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-21T14:37:49 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.227.20.168] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T15:03:52 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T15:05:59 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T15:29:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-21T15:33:54 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@45.114.62.61] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T15:38:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.227.20.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T15:43:48 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@45.114.62.61] has quit [Quit: Streake_] 2016-08-21T15:45:50 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T16:07:03 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-21T16:07:33 < Tectu> This video is not available. 2016-08-21T16:14:29 < owl-v-> "This video is not available" 2016-08-21T16:24:36 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T16:36:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T16:52:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T16:53:18 < Tectu> some very impressive work it is 2016-08-21T16:57:14 < Steffanx> Keep your hands of the drugs mr crt 2016-08-21T16:58:48 < Steffanx> Hello mr sir crt. 2016-08-21T16:59:36 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T17:02:09 < Steffanx> How does it flow? 2016-08-21T17:02:48 < Steffanx> Good. 2016-08-21T17:03:15 < Steffanx> The electrons flow well. 2016-08-21T17:05:58 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/BYy9bFPADFE 2016-08-21T17:07:46 < Steffanx> somehow i get the idea he just times his movements very well Rob235 :P 2016-08-21T17:07:56 < Steffanx> or greenscreen. 2016-08-21T17:09:23 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-21T17:10:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T17:12:11 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-21T17:12:17 < Laurenceb__> crt are you otherkin? 2016-08-21T17:13:10 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Otherkin 2016-08-21T17:13:20 < Laurenceb__> sounds like it if you identify as a duck 2016-08-21T17:15:07 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T17:16:06 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-21T17:27:27 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-21T17:32:23 < Laurenceb__> I don't identify as a horse 2016-08-21T17:32:42 < Laurenceb__> cuz I identify as an attack helicopter 2016-08-21T17:37:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T17:37:52 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/zZpv9SG1vwo 2016-08-21T17:38:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.248] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T17:45:38 < Rob235> stop watching what I do internet! every ad is drone related now 2016-08-21T18:01:51 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:02:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T18:06:10 < Rob235> damn, I really got sucked into facebook 2016-08-21T18:06:14 < Rob235> ok what to do 2016-08-21T18:07:31 < Tectu> vape 2016-08-21T18:07:49 < englishman> ^ 2016-08-21T18:07:51 < Rob235> then what 2016-08-21T18:09:31 < Tectu> oh, so you admit that it's the most useless and senseless shit one can do? 2016-08-21T18:09:43 < Rob235> ? 2016-08-21T18:09:44 < Tectu> englishman o/ 2016-08-21T18:09:45 < Rob235> vaping? 2016-08-21T18:09:49 < englishman> soup tektu 2016-08-21T18:09:53 < englishman> \o 2016-08-21T18:10:46 < Tectu> pokemon much 2016-08-21T18:10:47 < Tectu> you? 2016-08-21T18:10:56 < Tectu> Rob235, yes. 2016-08-21T18:10:58 < Rob235> are you two speaking english? 2016-08-21T18:11:03 < Tectu> no 2016-08-21T18:11:06 < Rob235> good 2016-08-21T18:11:15 < Tectu> it's called "begin retarded" 2016-08-21T18:11:18 < englishman> no Tectu im b& from pokemans 2016-08-21T18:11:18 < Rob235> vaping is not useless? it got me off cigs 2016-08-21T18:11:41 < englishman> Trainer, 2016-08-21T18:11:41 < englishman> Your account has been terminated. Use of any other third-party software or app, including but not limited to scripts/apps, applications used to falsify your location, emulators, modified or unofficial software, and/or accessing Pokémon GO clients or backends in an unauthorized manner is considered cheating. 2016-08-21T18:11:43 < Tectu> it's like saying raping is good because it gets you off your masturbation addiction 2016-08-21T18:11:58 < Rob235> its more like the opposite 2016-08-21T18:13:44 < Tectu> lol englishman, you actually did pokemon? 2016-08-21T18:14:03 < englishman> i think i actually opened the app like twice 2016-08-21T18:14:09 < englishman> its not really a fun game 2016-08-21T18:14:15 < Tectu> maybe because it's not a game 2016-08-21T18:14:21 < englishman> i was level 26 or someting and it was just swiping for 10min 2016-08-21T18:14:42 < Tectu> sounds like you achieved more in those 10 minutes than in your entire life 2016-08-21T18:14:50 < Tectu> lol sorry, no idea where that came from :p 2016-08-21T18:14:56 < englishman> dont try to be mean Tectu you are not a mean person 2016-08-21T18:15:00 < englishman> and you are not good at it. 2016-08-21T18:15:02 < Tectu> awww :3 2016-08-21T18:15:12 < Rob235> its irc, it brings out the troll in everyone 2016-08-21T18:15:14 < Tectu> Je t'aime beaucoup <3 2016-08-21T18:15:20 < englishman> fait chier 2016-08-21T18:15:21 < Tectu> not everyone, Mr. Rob235 2016-08-21T18:15:31 < Rob235> yea, not me :) 2016-08-21T18:15:47 < englishman> should i get the new deus ex game, i think the last one was the most recent game i enjoyed 2016-08-21T18:15:56 < Tectu> deus ex go? 2016-08-21T18:16:07 < englishman> silly u 2016-08-21T18:16:19 < Tectu> I was not kidding: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.squareenixmontreal.deusexgo&hl=en 2016-08-21T18:16:32 < englishman> holy shit 2016-08-21T18:16:36 < Tectu> one time in my life I am being serious and you don't trust me :p 2016-08-21T18:16:37 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex_Go 2016-08-21T18:16:45 < englishman> yeah i totally didnt believe yoy. 2016-08-21T18:17:03 < Tectu> I hope you feel bad now. Because you should feel bad now. 2016-08-21T18:17:08 < Rob235> haha 2016-08-21T18:23:02 < englishman> tonight i will try my stm32 bbq controller 2016-08-21T18:23:16 < englishman> to cook this tritip 2016-08-21T18:23:24 < englishman> as a test before this 7.5kg sirloin 2016-08-21T18:23:27 < englishman> nom nom 2016-08-21T18:25:18 < Laurenceb__> diabetes tiem 2016-08-21T18:26:13 < englishman> no suger added, trollenceb 2016-08-21T18:26:44 < englishman> colon cancer, different story 2016-08-21T18:26:53 < Laurenceb__> mcdensity map http://i.imgur.com/GtOzqOt.jpg 2016-08-21T18:30:36 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:30:42 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:30:47 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-21T18:30:47 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:30:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:39:06 -!- rcc [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:39:06 -!- rcc [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-21T18:39:06 -!- rcc [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:42:45 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T18:43:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T18:44:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-239-46-170.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-21T18:48:10 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-21T18:56:17 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/bR-bLEPDPjM?t=2h55m34s 2016-08-21T18:56:22 < Rob235> how can anyone fly with video like that 2016-08-21T18:57:26 < Fleck> skillz 2016-08-21T18:57:56 -!- rcc [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-21T19:00:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-21T19:03:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-21T19:04:03 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T19:06:46 < englishman> geolocked to usa, racists 2016-08-21T19:06:49 < englishman> clearly hes not flying 2016-08-21T19:06:55 < englishman> as his video is terrible 2016-08-21T19:07:02 < englishman> and crashed like 5s in 2016-08-21T19:08:24 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/12Coi4_BVL4 2016-08-21T19:08:27 < englishman> heres better video and a better pilot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81Mx1HJi7Q 2016-08-21T19:08:55 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T19:09:21 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T19:13:01 < englishman> for dongs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0fdtGE1Tsc 2016-08-21T19:20:26 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-222-73.eduroam.liu.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T19:25:13 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/QJofdEC.gifv 2016-08-21T19:32:37 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T19:34:15 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-21T19:35:05 < Rob235> ouch to the dongs one 2016-08-21T19:41:59 < Rob235> "Should've turned on the drone and cut off her tits" 2016-08-21T19:42:48 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/MEKafiDxhCc 2016-08-21T19:48:17 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-21T20:12:36 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-21T20:12:48 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T20:14:31 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-21T20:14:43 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T20:18:09 < Tectu> now I watched the entire video waiting for that sentence coming up 2016-08-21T20:18:12 < Tectu> now I see it in the comments 2016-08-21T20:18:15 < Tectu> screw you, Mr. Rob235 2016-08-21T20:18:21 < Tectu> I hope you are happy. You're a bad person. 2016-08-21T20:18:26 < Rob235> hahaha 2016-08-21T20:18:50 < Rob235> it was an interesting video 2016-08-21T20:19:01 < Rob235> the inner workings of a crazy lady 2016-08-21T20:19:34 < Tectu> are you implying that there are non-crazy ladies? 2016-08-21T20:19:54 < Rob235> its all relative 2016-08-21T20:22:21 < Rob235> nice, got a free github account 2016-08-21T20:22:52 < Rob235> for 2 years 2016-08-21T20:25:58 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-222-73.eduroam.liu.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-21T20:36:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T20:58:13 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-21T20:58:26 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T20:58:36 < Laurenceb__> are you implying that there are non-crazy ladies? 2016-08-21T20:58:40 < Laurenceb__> MGTOW pls go 2016-08-21T20:59:52 < Laurenceb__> https://vice-images.vice.com/images/content-images-crops/2015/09/24/inside-the-global-collective-of-straight-male-separatists-body-image-1443115781-size_1000.jpg 2016-08-21T20:59:59 < Laurenceb__> spotted Tectu 2016-08-21T21:03:41 < Laurenceb__> most ppl from UK playing Insurgency just hopped on the next flight to Turkey and went over the border 2016-08-21T21:04:24 < Steffanx> Yes, tectu is playing with his russian friends. Time to join R2COM 2016-08-21T21:04:51 < Steffanx> ok 2016-08-21T21:06:09 < Laurenceb__> Empyrior leaving mums basement 2016-08-21T21:07:07 < englishman> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoEg2TIWcAU9UlO.jpg 2016-08-21T21:07:09 < englishman> lol usa 2016-08-21T21:07:18 < englishman> look at that silly lookin boat 2016-08-21T21:08:04 < Laurenceb__> looks pretty epin 2016-08-21T21:08:43 < englishman> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Independence_(LCS-2) 2016-08-21T21:13:28 < englishman> much less silly looking boat 2016-08-21T21:14:28 < englishman> who cares 2016-08-21T21:14:45 < englishman> bet it doesn't even have stm32 2016-08-21T21:15:18 < englishman> who cares if it has a nuclear gatling gun if its ugly 2016-08-21T21:15:44 < englishman> your enemy will still laugh at you as they die 2016-08-21T21:15:55 < englishman> they will die happy knowing their ships are not ugly as ass 2016-08-21T21:16:09 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T21:16:54 < englishman> join the navy 2016-08-21T21:17:18 < Rob235> become gay 2016-08-21T21:17:45 < Rob235> well aren't you ridiculous 2016-08-21T21:17:50 < englishman> join the vape army 2016-08-21T21:18:03 < Rob235> you better never touch your penis again, its disgusting 2016-08-21T21:18:50 < Rob235> its just skin man, why are you such a homophobe 2016-08-21T21:20:05 < Rob235> you are silly 2016-08-21T21:20:47 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T21:22:27 < Rob235> I'm not forcing it, I'm saying you are silly because anything against the norm is disgusting to you. It just sounds like a terrible way to live to me. People are different, get over it 2016-08-21T21:26:29 < Rob235> ok then 2016-08-21T21:34:47 < Laurenceb__> Russia needs some sort of B-52 drone type thing for syria 2016-08-21T21:35:12 < Laurenceb__> that can just lurk over areas for ages and bomb as soon as enemy is moving 2016-08-21T21:35:38 < Laurenceb__> fighters are poor choice as they dont have much time on target 2016-08-21T21:35:48 < Laurenceb__> and american style drones are too expensive 2016-08-21T21:36:14 < Laurenceb__> yeah but enemy can hide pretty quickly in Aleppo 2016-08-21T21:36:29 < Laurenceb__> they need something that can attack every time they leave their hideouts 2016-08-21T21:36:51 < Laurenceb__> yeah just make it a long duration drone thing 2016-08-21T21:37:14 < Laurenceb__> I meant slow, prob turboprop with loads of bombs 2016-08-21T21:37:30 < Laurenceb__> hmm 2016-08-21T21:37:54 < Laurenceb__> well with ballistic targetting... 2016-08-21T21:38:12 < Laurenceb__> I dunno lol 2016-08-21T21:39:41 < Laurenceb__> well muricans are piling in 2016-08-21T21:39:55 < Laurenceb__> but they seem to have abandoned FSA 2016-08-21T21:40:13 < Laurenceb__> so when Kurds control northern Syria things might change 2016-08-21T21:40:40 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T21:40:44 < Laurenceb__> no supplies from Turkey 2016-08-21T21:42:24 < Laurenceb__> nice propoganada 2016-08-21T21:43:03 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T21:43:24 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T21:43:58 < BrainDamage> i kinda empathize with the kurds, they have been repressed by everyone at every chance 2016-08-21T21:47:21 < BrainDamage> personally i wouldn't care, we have quite some unused land because it's so fucking hilly, if they want to stay in near unhabitable zones, they are perfectly allowed to 2016-08-21T21:48:46 < BrainDamage> why do you constantly read things i never said 2016-08-21T21:50:02 < Rob235> what does a private repository on github mean? 2016-08-21T21:50:14 < Steffanx> that only you or people you give access can access it 2016-08-21T21:50:20 < Laurenceb__> lul its flooded due to Merkel 2016-08-21T21:50:20 < Rob235> how do you give access 2016-08-21T21:50:27 < Steffanx> dont know :P 2016-08-21T21:50:32 < Laurenceb__> nobody voted for it 2016-08-21T21:50:40 < Laurenceb__> also they arent refugees 2016-08-21T21:50:53 < Laurenceb__> like 10% are legit refugees 2016-08-21T21:51:05 < BrainDamage> pretty sure all the immigrants her aren't refugees 2016-08-21T21:51:32 < BrainDamage> unless people from syria also took few decades living in north africa 2016-08-21T21:51:40 < Laurenceb__> BrainDamage: agree on Kurds, Assad should sign peace agreement with them 2016-08-21T21:51:50 < Laurenceb__> then create Kurdistan in Northern Syria 2016-08-21T21:51:53 < Steffanx> Laurenceb__, erdogan is not going to like that. 2016-08-21T21:52:05 < Steffanx> Turkey has serious issues with the Kurd. 2016-08-21T21:52:08 < Laurenceb__> yep, resulting in epic lulz as they attack Turkey 2016-08-21T21:52:23 < Laurenceb__> which is completely deserved 2016-08-21T21:52:26 < BrainDamage> ^ 2016-08-21T21:52:49 < BrainDamage> just revenge 2016-08-21T21:53:12 < Steffanx> Turkey is weird. Im not even sure why they are an ally. 2016-08-21T21:53:42 < BrainDamage> so what, it seems that countries aren't giving much of a shit about international agreenmnts nowdays 2016-08-21T21:54:08 < BrainDamage> a piece of paper is worth less than the will of people to actually honour it 2016-08-21T21:55:20 < Steffanx> I case of a serious confict the netherlands would be the first country taken. We have virtually no army. 2016-08-21T21:55:36 < Laurenceb__> they have to get there first 2016-08-21T21:56:19 < Tectu> I though this channel was about STM32 microcontrollers 2016-08-21T21:56:24 < Steffanx> I don't really see Turkey as a trustworthy country. 2016-08-21T21:56:29 < Steffanx> Not with its current leader(s) 2016-08-21T21:57:02 -!- qyx_ [~qyx@krtko.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-21T21:57:21 < BrainDamage> will go is for sure, the question is when, even cuba got rid of fidel, just 40 years too late 2016-08-21T21:58:32 < BrainDamage> france as well 2016-08-21T21:58:41 < Laurenceb__> lulwut 2016-08-21T21:58:59 < Laurenceb__> atm their navy is probably more powerful than uk 2016-08-21T22:03:13 < Laurenceb__> but maybe we do want to see Russian tanks :P 2016-08-21T22:05:17 < Steffanx> Would be fun. 2016-08-21T22:05:28 < Steffanx> Finally some thrill in our lifes. 2016-08-21T22:05:41 < Laurenceb__> not sure about the Russian drivers tho 2016-08-21T22:05:53 < Laurenceb__> liveleak has me worried 2016-08-21T22:06:02 < Steffanx> Don't you want to see in real life? 2016-08-21T22:06:47 < Tectu> I'm already learning russian 2016-08-21T22:06:54 < Steffanx> na tochky 2016-08-21T22:06:59 < Steffanx> "cheesta". 2016-08-21T22:07:01 < Tectu> na tochku* 2016-08-21T22:07:02 < Steffanx> *u 2016-08-21T22:07:19 < Tectu> Steffanx, we have to ask PaulFertser how you really write "cheesta" 2016-08-21T22:07:34 < Steffanx> but its more like "To4ky" iirc. 2016-08-21T22:07:34 < Tectu> ah, great 2016-08-21T22:07:41 < Tectu> R2COM, chisto means "clear" ? 2016-08-21T22:07:45 < Steffanx> it does. 2016-08-21T22:08:03 < Laurenceb__> holy shit found my old hall of residence 2016-08-21T22:08:06 < Laurenceb__> https://i.redditmedia.com/dyORrhiuhu58gQTd9y34lZ5nYAQNis5F8ocnXJYfxEo.jpg?w=960&s=362b6a0e4f536c55d8916aca88093775 2016-08-21T22:08:06 < Steffanx> After hearing it 5000 times it must be that. ( and i asked ) 2016-08-21T22:08:13 < Laurenceb__> I used to live just down the corridor 2016-08-21T22:08:48 < Laurenceb__> former trollstation was just to the right, looks like new troll residents have taken over 2016-08-21T22:08:57 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-21T22:08:59 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@c-73-142-32-181.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] by Tectu 2016-08-21T22:09:49 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-21T22:09:58 < Laurenceb__> muh free speech 2016-08-21T22:10:18 < Laurenceb__> inb4 I'm banned too 2016-08-21T22:10:54 < Steffanx> You didn't post very graphical crap without a warning. In your case the warning is implicit. 2016-08-21T22:11:18 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, is under constant ban warning anyway :p 2016-08-21T22:11:37 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-21T22:11:41 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-21T22:13:19 < Steffanx> Yet that video is a typical example of the hypocritismof youtube. Blown our brains are accepted, but a video with even a tiny nippe ( or something ) gets removed ( ok, there are a few exceptions ) 2016-08-21T22:13:41 < Laurenceb__> lul glad I didnt click link 2016-08-21T22:13:51 < Steffanx> *nipple 2016-08-21T22:14:38 < Steffanx> Don't tell me you can't watch that stuff while eating breakfast Laurenceb__ 2016-08-21T22:15:16 < BrainDamage> that's the typical us based censoreship, they are afraid of (some forms of) nudity, but not gore 2016-08-21T22:15:20 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T22:18:03 < Tectu> why can't people just stop fighting 2016-08-21T22:18:13 < Tectu> better just blog about some lunix stuff 2016-08-21T22:18:49 < Laurenceb__> Emacs or Vim, which is better? 2016-08-21T22:18:50 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-21T22:19:16 * Laurenceb__ hides in nuclear bunker 2016-08-21T22:19:26 < Tectu> haha :p 2016-08-21T22:20:02 < BrainDamage> we have conflict in our microcosm of stm32 too 2016-08-21T22:20:16 < Tectu> yeah, yet we don't bang each other 2016-08-21T22:20:19 < BrainDamage> see spammers, trolling, et 2016-08-21T22:20:19 < Tectu> other's head in* 2016-08-21T22:20:19 < Tectu> damn 2016-08-21T22:20:40 < BrainDamage> only because there's physical barriers to prevent it :P 2016-08-21T22:21:31 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86FC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-08-21T22:21:32 < Laurenceb__> hmm 2016-08-21T22:21:39 < Rob235> Showing 29 changed files with 5,072 additions and 0 deletions. does that mean 5072 lines of code? 2016-08-21T22:21:42 < Laurenceb__> usb controlled irc gatling guns 2016-08-21T22:21:45 < Rob235> on github 2016-08-21T22:21:47 < Steffanx> Another reason why we never had this ##stm32 meeting :D 2016-08-21T22:22:10 < BrainDamage> Rob235: yes 2016-08-21T22:22:17 < Rob235> I see, thanks 2016-08-21T22:23:00 < BrainDamage> an edited line will show as 1 addition and 1 deletion 2016-08-21T22:23:17 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-21T22:23:33 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T22:25:58 -!- Mustafa [~quassel@p5DE86FC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T22:27:43 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/MqZcG0Lg 2016-08-21T22:27:46 < Rob235> that was the wrong paste... 2016-08-21T22:27:49 < Rob235> umm 2016-08-21T22:28:02 < Tectu> too bad, hoped for some passwords file :p 2016-08-21T22:28:17 < BrainDamage> i hoped for embarassing lewd material 2016-08-21T22:28:19 < Rob235> heh no, I think I closed the wrong window, oh well 2016-08-21T22:28:39 < Tectu> BrainDamage, is archlinux for RPi still/finally a thing 2016-08-21T22:28:51 < Tectu> BrainDamage, there were some ARM images for arch, but they are unofficial, right? 2016-08-21T22:29:17 < BrainDamage> it's a thing since 4 years, arch doesn't support arm any form, archlinuxarm is a parent distro 2016-08-21T22:29:32 < Tectu> oh, okay 2016-08-21T22:29:38 < Tectu> will check that out after some showering, cu 2016-08-21T22:29:44 < Tectu> (thanks for the info, Mr BrainDamage ) 2016-08-21T22:29:45 < BrainDamage> they have some slightly different policies,but are mostly compatible 2016-08-21T22:29:59 < BrainDamage> #archlinux-arm 2016-08-21T22:30:05 < Tectu> thanks! 2016-08-21T22:30:13 < Tectu> this debian just feels so wrong :p 2016-08-21T22:30:14 < Steffanx> ircing in shower now? 2016-08-21T22:30:27 < BrainDamage> i actually can 2016-08-21T22:30:37 < BrainDamage> my phone is ip67 2016-08-21T22:30:42 < Steffanx> What is mr Tectu rpi-ing? And newest on? 2016-08-21T22:30:44 < Steffanx> e 2016-08-21T22:30:47 < BrainDamage> buuuut i don't have the balls to test it 2016-08-21T22:30:52 < aandrew> I'm Troooooling in the shower... just trooooooling in the shower. with mIRC I've got da power I'm just Troooooooling in the shower... 2016-08-21T22:31:03 < Steffanx> mirc for android is real? 2016-08-21T22:31:25 < aandrew> you know you wnt it 2016-08-21T22:32:07 < Steffanx> quassel gets the job done well enough. 2016-08-21T22:32:26 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T22:44:52 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-21T22:45:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-21T22:48:47 < Tectu> Steffanx, yeah, got an Raspberry Pi 3 Model B with some 7" capacitive touchscreen thingy 2016-08-21T22:50:55 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-08-21T22:53:11 < Tectu> BrainDamage, galaxy phone? 2016-08-21T22:53:20 < Tectu> BrainDamage, also, what are the "slightly different policies" ? 2016-08-21T22:54:53 < Laurenceb__> Tectu: does the Rpi DSI interface work yet? 2016-08-21T22:55:04 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, yes 2016-08-21T22:55:09 < Laurenceb__> nice 2016-08-21T22:55:11 < Tectu> works well 2016-08-21T22:55:14 < Tectu> from what I can tell 2016-08-21T22:55:30 < Laurenceb__> does it have gpu accelerated desktop? 2016-08-21T22:55:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-21T22:56:01 < Tectu> I dunno. I just plugged stuff together and booted raspberian. I didn't do stuff yet 2016-08-21T22:56:08 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-21T22:56:23 < Tectu> also I will just use framebuffer mode anyway 2016-08-21T22:56:51 < BrainDamage> Tectu: z5c compact, yes, sonyaids 2016-08-21T22:57:03 < Steffanx> Hi dongs. 2016-08-21T22:57:07 < Tectu> lol ^ 2016-08-21T22:57:12 < BrainDamage> but i cannot stand large phones 2016-08-21T22:57:53 < Tectu> BrainDamage, four of my friends have/had one of those "waterproof" sony Z5 things because they often go to festivals and stuff. four of them died within the first year. all due to water damage :p 2016-08-21T22:58:09 < Steffanx> this phone talk reminds me i have to buy a new phone. 2016-08-21T22:58:14 < BrainDamage> and slightly different policies include for example, a zip you can just extract, vs arch's installation procedure 2016-08-21T22:58:22 < Tectu> Steffanx, chinaphone no longer any good? 2016-08-21T22:58:35 < BrainDamage> mostly due to customization of each target board 2016-08-21T22:58:37 < Steffanx> nah, its good. partially. 2016-08-21T22:58:48 < Steffanx> no microphone after reflashing it. 2016-08-21T22:58:48 < BrainDamage> and i've learned not to trust waterproof on anything 2016-08-21T22:58:57 < Tectu> Steffanx, if you like to get a good price/value phone I can recommend checking out the Huawei Mate and Huawei P series. 2016-08-21T22:59:11 < Tectu> phone w/o microphone... -__- 2016-08-21T22:59:13 < BrainDamage> i've owned a tissot wristwatch which was guaranteed 100m waterproof 2016-08-21T22:59:22 < Tectu> yeah you can't trust swissers 2016-08-21T22:59:22 < Steffanx> you phone with a phone? 2016-08-21T22:59:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-21T22:59:29 < BrainDamage> it got water leak as i went diving past 5m 2016-08-21T22:59:58 < Tectu> yes I do, Mr. Steffanx 2016-08-21T23:00:17 < Steffanx> i never do. 2016-08-21T23:00:23 < Steffanx> not with smart phone thing 2016-08-21T23:00:51 < Tectu> are you caring a regular old phone-only-phone with you for phoning? 2016-08-21T23:01:08 < Tectu> BrainDamage, did you get it replaced on warranty? 2016-08-21T23:02:00 < Steffanx> i never phone when travelling Tectu 2016-08-21T23:02:18 < BrainDamage> yes, they replaced essentially everything except the cage, the glass and the wristband 2016-08-21T23:02:36 < Tectu> Steffanx, and when not-traveling? 2016-08-21T23:02:57 < Steffanx> dect phone-ish thing. 2016-08-21T23:02:59 < BrainDamage> it's a stationary mobile phone 2016-08-21T23:05:14 < Steffanx> but i guess i better reflash the original fw back. Im not sure the mic. worked before did the flashing 2016-08-21T23:07:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T23:07:46 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-21T23:07:54 < Tectu> am I the only one who phones with his phone? 2016-08-21T23:08:02 < Tectu> am I doing it wrong? 2016-08-21T23:08:16 < Steffanx> Yes 2016-08-21T23:08:20 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T23:10:26 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btgeoppidhwysfnc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T23:10:33 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T23:10:45 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-21T23:12:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-21T23:19:03 < jadew> I heard so many good things about vagrant 2016-08-21T23:19:18 < jadew> I finally had a reason to test it and it doesn't work 2016-08-21T23:19:32 < Tectu> maybe your regex is wrong? 2016-08-21T23:19:39 < jadew> doubt that 2016-08-21T23:19:46 < Tectu> did you plug it in? 2016-08-21T23:19:52 < jadew> so far it's offering me the genuine opensource experience 2016-08-21T23:20:25 < jadew> all you have to do is run the following 3 lines: 2016-08-21T23:20:39 < jadew> you run them and it doesn't work, so you google for the error, you fix it, you try again 2016-08-21T23:20:46 < jadew> and get from one error to the next 2016-08-21T23:21:13 < Tectu> that sounds like typical yak shaving 2016-08-21T23:21:23 < Tectu> why is that surprising you? 2016-08-21T23:21:28 < Tectu> is this the first time something doesn't work for you? :p 2016-08-21T23:21:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@178.121.209.44] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-21T23:22:37 < jadew> no, but given how everyone is happy with these tools, makes me really wonder if I'm doing something wrong with everything 2016-08-21T23:22:48 < zyp> vagrant seems like bullshit anyway 2016-08-21T23:23:46 < jadew> I wanted to test a DB cluster and it seemed like it could make things very easy 2016-08-21T23:23:47 < Tectu> is that like openstack? 2016-08-21T23:24:56 < jadew> Tectu, no, it's more like an easy way to set up a development environment 2016-08-21T23:25:17 < jadew> although, if I did it manually, I'd already have it running by now 2016-08-21T23:27:08 < Tectu> so it's like docker? 2016-08-21T23:27:14 < Tectu> but for development? 2016-08-21T23:27:18 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-21T23:27:28 < Tectu> so docker with vCenter capabilities? :p 2016-08-21T23:28:12 < jadew> don't know what that is 2016-08-21T23:28:34 < Tectu> virtual data center stuff 2016-08-21T23:28:39 < Tectu> where you can create virtual clusters and stuff 2016-08-21T23:28:47 < Steffanx> vagrant is fully virtual where docker is more an isolation thing. 2016-08-21T23:28:58 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-21T23:29:00 < Tectu> is docker more like FreeBSD jails? 2016-08-21T23:29:20 < Tectu> although, docker does virtual FS afaik, no? 2016-08-21T23:29:22 < Steffanx> unless you run on windows, then you still do a virtual machine to run the kernel 2016-08-21T23:29:25 < Steffanx> or os x 2016-08-21T23:30:48 < Tectu> okay 2016-08-21T23:37:36 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-21T23:50:20 < Tectu> lol this: http://pokemail.net 2016-08-21T23:57:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Day changed Mon Aug 22 2016 2016-08-22T00:02:12 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2016-08-22T00:03:50 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-22T00:04:46 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-22T00:11:44 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T00:14:28 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-22T00:28:29 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T00:39:18 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-22T00:45:52 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T00:47:32 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-22T00:47:48 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d59.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-22T00:51:37 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-22T00:56:18 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-22T01:05:20 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T01:23:57 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T01:26:09 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-22T01:28:36 < englishman> canadian ideas 2016-08-22T01:43:51 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T01:48:42 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-22T01:48:58 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T02:00:24 -!- LeelooMinai_ is now known as LeelooMinai 2016-08-22T02:20:17 < ReadError> anyone here worked with ACs/vacpumps ? 2016-08-22T02:20:40 < ReadError> wondering about this gas ballast thing, it seems to adjust itself but manual doesnt say much about it 2016-08-22T02:20:44 < ReadError> is that normal? 2016-08-22T02:30:19 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d43ffa.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-22T02:48:29 < Laurenceb__> welcome crt 2016-08-22T02:48:49 * Laurenceb__ is wondering if he is sufficiently bored to write a parcel bomber simin methlab 2016-08-22T02:49:15 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-22T02:49:42 < Laurenceb__> cumtrapz 2016-08-22T02:50:05 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btgeoppidhwysfnc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-22T02:50:06 < Laurenceb__> Z = cumtrapz(Y) 2016-08-22T02:50:32 < Laurenceb__> wow its also free as in freedom http://octave.sourceforge.net/octave/function/cumtrapz.html 2016-08-22T02:52:11 < Laurenceb__> I'm probably overthinking this 2016-08-22T02:52:44 * Laurenceb__ was wondering about parcel on a cable and a fixed wing plane flying some flightpath to make the parcel descend vertically and land softly 2016-08-22T02:54:18 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-22T02:57:11 < Laurenceb__> lul https://youtu.be/5vPaC7mgS2g 2016-08-22T02:57:18 < Laurenceb__> infowarz + cold fusion 2016-08-22T02:57:25 < Laurenceb__> needs moar emdrive 2016-08-22T03:01:24 < Laurenceb__> lul why did I know that was coming 2016-08-22T03:02:48 < englishman> crt: https://i.sli.mg/e2H70Y.jpg 2016-08-22T03:02:56 < Laurenceb__> https://www.reddit.com/r/LENR/comments/4i212x/first_images_emerge_of_a_me356_tungsten_plasma/?st=is59zj8n&sh=58f8764a 2016-08-22T03:02:59 < Laurenceb__> eeek scary 2016-08-22T03:03:08 * Laurenceb__ is epically unconvinced 2016-08-22T03:03:41 < englishman> https://i.sli.mg/vkA0wU.jpg 2016-08-22T03:04:58 < englishman> also I'm drinking a Zionist beer. https://i.sli.mg/fl8hwf.jpg 2016-08-22T03:08:35 < Laurenceb__> I have tested plasma based reactor for longer period of time.. Results are clear. 2016-08-22T03:08:35 < Laurenceb__> Unfortunately the power that is under the lid is so strong I will not continue in this area. 2016-08-22T03:08:41 < Laurenceb__> cool story bro 2016-08-22T03:09:26 * Laurenceb__ wonders if the whole reddit cold fusion forum is just shitposters 2016-08-22T03:12:57 < Laurenceb__> Use a hexagonal crystal to filter the EMF to only let pass the magic LENR EMF driver. 2016-08-22T03:13:04 < Laurenceb__> ^surely a troll 2016-08-22T03:14:08 < Laurenceb__> there is probably a reddit page for that 2016-08-22T03:14:59 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-22T03:15:05 < Laurenceb__> like wtf is HHO 2016-08-22T03:15:43 < Laurenceb__> nope its supposed to be something else 2016-08-22T03:15:58 < englishman> lol hho 2016-08-22T03:16:02 < englishman> old school trolling 2016-08-22T03:16:03 < Laurenceb__> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-assemble-a-HHO-Generator-and-why-it-works/ 2016-08-22T03:16:09 < englishman> like the turbinator 2016-08-22T03:16:18 < Laurenceb__> haha the turbinator 2016-08-22T03:18:13 < Laurenceb__> also this http://jezebel.com/misogynistic-trolls-drive-feminist-video-game-critic-fr-1627923562 2016-08-22T03:18:32 < Laurenceb__> trolls trollin trolls trollin trolls 2016-08-22T03:18:59 < Laurenceb__> its all just her shitposting 2016-08-22T03:19:37 < Laurenceb__> oh god they have photos 2016-08-22T03:19:38 < Laurenceb__> https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/3225-me356-Reactor-parameters-part-2/?postID=18702#post18702 2016-08-22T03:20:02 < Laurenceb__> right before triggering the excess heat. 2016-08-22T03:20:06 < Laurenceb__> cool story bro 2016-08-22T03:22:30 < upgrdman> can anyone find a datasheet for this STM ic? it's in a UPS, but i cant seem to find it on google. 2016-08-22T03:22:31 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/a/3A9cQ 2016-08-22T03:32:34 < upgrdman> damn. so now i'll have to try and figure out the circuit :/ ups works, but i wanna add a 24vdc fan. i could be lazy and just wire it to the 24v battery but then it'd kill the battery if the ups ever lost power for too long 2016-08-22T03:33:16 < upgrdman> feeling kinda lazy 2016-08-22T03:33:27 < upgrdman> but ya, mostfet + voltage divider would do it 2016-08-22T03:34:00 < upgrdman> well theres like 5 relays. now i need to figure out what each one does 2016-08-22T03:34:10 < upgrdman> ya an old 1100VA ups 2016-08-22T03:34:13 < upgrdman> from belkin 2016-08-22T03:34:24 < upgrdman> pcb is (c) 2004 2016-08-22T03:38:58 < upgrdman> not surprised 2016-08-22T03:39:13 < upgrdman> silicon isnt too hard. quality... well that's a bit hard 2016-08-22T04:17:52 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/rZXsNlF.gifv 2016-08-22T04:18:33 < englishman> exercising your internet freedumbs now that youre back in usa, i see 2016-08-22T04:19:33 < englishman> crt: yeah but look at what theyre making 2016-08-22T04:19:34 < englishman> no cmos 2016-08-22T04:19:38 < englishman> all gigantic transistors 2016-08-22T04:20:29 < englishman> you can do those with masking tape, a film camera and a darkroom 2016-08-22T04:26:13 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-22T04:53:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-22T04:57:02 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-22T04:58:26 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T05:19:24 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-22T05:19:39 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-22T05:19:39 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T05:36:19 -!- kuldeep_ is now known as kuldeep 2016-08-22T05:55:57 -!- Mujamaon [817fe255@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.127.226.85] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T05:56:27 < Mujamaon> I'm getting DMA transfer error interrupts, and DMA FIFO error interrupts. 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Find the video of a parrot driving some toy car. 2016-08-22T10:09:46 < jpa-> in the parrot dream we were having an argument about where to park in the scary city of loimaa; she wanted us to find some abandoned barricaded roads so that the vandals would leave our vehicles alone - but the whole argument turned out to be a misunderstanding, as she thought we were going by bike and i thought we were going by car; then we agreed that indeed bikes cannot be left on random streets but car 2016-08-22T10:09:46 < jpa-> can be parked safely anywhere 2016-08-22T10:12:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-22T10:12:55 < Steffanx> No. Dont see the need for it. 2016-08-22T10:14:03 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-22T10:14:09 < Steffanx> I get the idea when the f4 isnt fast enough anymore you can just as well go A5 (or something) 2016-08-22T10:15:16 < jpa-> or fpga 2016-08-22T10:15:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-22T10:15:36 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.97] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T10:17:16 < Steffanx> Good. 2016-08-22T10:17:52 < Steffanx> Sure. But im at work and cannot tell you about them :P 2016-08-22T10:27:42 < Steffanx> I think they call it: embedded software developer mr crt 2016-08-22T10:33:32 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T10:40:38 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-22T10:49:03 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d59.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-22T10:50:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-22T10:59:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6::5763] has quit [Quit: IceChat - Its what Cool People use] 2016-08-22T11:14:11 < Fleck> http://fleck.rullz.lv/cat/IMG_20110829_155748.jpg << my animal :D 2016-08-22T11:15:02 < jpa-> where is the caption? 2016-08-22T11:15:43 < Fleck> hello 2016-08-22T11:16:04 < Fleck> yeah, Minka 2016-08-22T11:17:20 < Fleck> good work - about what? 2016-08-22T11:17:32 < Fleck> how should I know when Tectu is coming? 2016-08-22T11:18:00 < Fleck> ok, there are other pics in that dir... 2016-08-22T11:18:16 < Fleck> I did? 2016-08-22T11:19:22 < Fleck> I did nothing man :D 2016-08-22T11:19:42 < Fleck> must have been Tectu 2016-08-22T11:20:25 < Fleck> no, just one 2016-08-22T11:21:02 < Fleck> :D 2016-08-22T11:23:59 < Fleck> ;p 2016-08-22T11:38:27 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T11:52:35 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T11:53:01 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-232.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T12:00:21 < Steffanx> Someone is bored. 2016-08-22T12:00:36 < jpa-> is it me? 2016-08-22T12:09:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.154] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T12:18:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-22T12:18:58 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-22T12:20:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-22T12:21:49 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T12:28:20 -!- crtt [~pls@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T12:33:30 * jadew got triggered 2016-08-22T12:33:51 < Tectu> I jus got so many highlights 2016-08-22T12:34:04 < Steffanx> Dear crt. Please mind your language. Ty 2016-08-22T12:34:23 < Tectu> also what Steffanx said, yeah. 2016-08-22T12:34:27 < Tectu> also, afk for lunch 2016-08-22T12:34:45 < Steffanx> You lunch? 2016-08-22T12:34:58 < Tectu> of course! 2016-08-22T12:35:01 < Tectu> I just got up after all 2016-08-22T12:35:14 < Tectu> #ThugLife 2016-08-22T12:36:16 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T12:38:05 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-232.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-22T13:04:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-232.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T13:04:43 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-22T13:06:18 < Tectu> Yes, I like you too Mr. crt 2016-08-22T13:06:50 < jpa-> who doesn't 2016-08-22T13:07:20 < jpa-> in fact, i like him so much that i don't want to read anything he writes, to avoid spoiling the excitement 2016-08-22T13:09:45 < Steffanx> You dream about him too or is he not THAT special? 2016-08-22T13:10:57 < jpa-> not that special 2016-08-22T13:11:18 < jpa-> Steffanx: i've never dreamed about Tectu either, so that's quite a compliment to you 2016-08-22T13:14:42 < Steffanx> _o_ 2016-08-22T13:15:20 < Tectu> jpa-, I feel like our love is fading away. Maybe it's time for a 2nd honeymoon. 2016-08-22T13:17:00 < jpa-> i seem to have forgotten our first honeymoon.. was it to the license island? 2016-08-22T13:17:45 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-22T13:18:58 < Tectu> found ##stm32: http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/7505d64a54e0/f70412bdae2e.jpg 2016-08-22T13:19:36 < zyp> haha, wat 2016-08-22T13:21:10 < jpa-> where is Tectu? 2016-08-22T13:21:30 < Tectu> yeah I didn't want to put myself on there due to bias'ing 2016-08-22T13:21:35 < Tectu> but I am happy to add it if you tell me who 2016-08-22T13:21:37 < Tectu> (not the girl) 2016-08-22T13:22:31 < jadew> lol 2016-08-22T13:22:59 < jpa-> there is a girl there? where? 2016-08-22T13:23:07 < Tectu> left of the couch 2016-08-22T13:23:09 < PeterM> you're beside crt Tectu 2016-08-22T13:23:23 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-22T13:23:39 < jpa-> nah, that looks like a boy to me 2016-08-22T13:23:50 < Tectu> t-shirt... ? 2016-08-22T13:23:55 < PeterM> nah its a girl 2016-08-22T13:23:56 < jpa-> but yeah, right of crt is Tectu 2016-08-22T13:24:04 < PeterM> but she does look like the only one there that would actually kill osmeone 2016-08-22T13:24:12 < Tectu> trinity 2016-08-22T13:24:16 < jadew> haha PeterM 2016-08-22T13:24:18 < PeterM> she has terminator face 2016-08-22T13:24:23 < jpa-> PeterM: so would any girl on this channel ;) 2016-08-22T13:24:34 < Tectu> where do we put PeterM and karlp? 2016-08-22T13:24:53 < PeterM> karlp is behind the camera 2016-08-22T13:24:54 < Tectu> can't I be the kid right of Laurenceb ? 2016-08-22T13:24:57 < jadew> between Laurenceb and jpa- 2016-08-22T13:25:14 < PeterM> makes sense because of zypsnips 2016-08-22T13:25:23 < Tectu> I'm kinda always dressed black and blue is my fav. color 2016-08-22T13:25:30 < Tectu> sounds like that boy knows what's good. 2016-08-22T13:25:33 < Tectu> looks* 2016-08-22T13:28:21 < PeterM> im behind steffanx's beergut 2016-08-22T13:28:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.132.27] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T13:28:38 < Tectu> lul 2016-08-22T13:28:47 < Steffanx> I dont wear pants like that. 2016-08-22T13:28:56 < Tectu> so can I be the cool kid to the right of Laurenceb ? 2016-08-22T13:29:10 < Tectu> all that arrived here was: I dont wear pants 2016-08-22T13:29:11 < Steffanx> Also not married. 2016-08-22T13:29:13 < jadew> doesn't look that cool, but sure 2016-08-22T13:29:42 < Tectu> nobody is going to be as cool as Laurenceb anyway 2016-08-22T13:30:01 < jpa-> it's the links 2016-08-22T13:31:11 * karlp feels he needs to reread the backlog a little.... 2016-08-22T13:32:43 < karlp> ok, now this makes some sort of sense.... 2016-08-22T13:34:20 < Tectu> update: http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/7505d64a54e0/484cb7625faf.jpg 2016-08-22T13:34:47 < karlp> I _just_ . 2016-08-22T13:34:49 < karlp> never mind. 2016-08-22T13:34:51 * karlp fixes it 2016-08-22T13:36:19 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-22T13:36:36 < karlp> still 5 slots up for grabs by the look of it 2016-08-22T13:36:57 < karlp> how come no-one got the ballerina with the gun shirt? 2016-08-22T13:37:07 < jpa-> karlp: stop grabbing the children 2016-08-22T13:37:08 < Tectu> somehow I feel like we should move crt one to the right. Just because of the look on his face 2016-08-22T13:37:15 < karlp> cool short for a shaved head thug with a gun in his hand 2016-08-22T13:39:23 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.139] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T13:42:30 < Tectu> so who do you want to be, Mr. karlp ? 2016-08-22T13:44:27 < Steffanx> Like he has a choice. This is how you see us mr tecto 2016-08-22T13:45:12 < Tectu> nobody disagreed so far :p 2016-08-22T13:46:04 < jadew> I vote for the asian guy 2016-08-22T13:46:11 < karlp> of the ones that are left, I definitely want the ballerina, or peterm's comment about me taking the picture 2016-08-22T13:49:25 < BrainDamage> laurenceb is wrong, he should've been outside trying to set the place on fire 2016-08-22T13:49:32 < BrainDamage> "for the lulz" 2016-08-22T13:49:38 < Tectu> no, laurenceb and dongs were the first I put on there 2016-08-22T13:49:41 < Tectu> laurenceb is the attention whore 2016-08-22T13:49:49 < Tectu> dongs is the coolest kid in town 2016-08-22T13:50:11 < Tectu> http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/99d72c7fc3e2/e2559e4d32b7.jpg 2016-08-22T13:50:29 < Tectu> karlp, ^ 2016-08-22T13:50:45 < jadew> you should have pointed the arrow at the t-shirt 2016-08-22T13:50:53 < Tectu> oh, lol :D 2016-08-22T13:51:59 < Steffanx> :P 2016-08-22T13:52:23 < Tectu> we also need BrainDamage 2016-08-22T13:52:34 < Tectu> sadly there's no complete retard on that picture 2016-08-22T13:54:02 < BrainDamage> https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mWGkAr1Xo5Y/TTH23XYLGII/AAAAAAAAAmU/kc_wSJ-FBPs/s1600/retard2.jpg 2016-08-22T13:54:09 < BrainDamage> photoshop it somewhere 2016-08-22T13:54:14 < Tectu> yeah that kid definitely got brain damage 2016-08-22T14:02:40 < BrainDamage> https://imgur.com/gallery/1XCuP 2016-08-22T14:05:52 < karlp> gaytime's are great 2016-08-22T14:07:09 < PeterM> 'greed 2016-08-22T14:09:46 < PeterM> https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/143/332328588_e16acdbb36.jpg 2016-08-22T14:13:36 < kakimir> mornings 2016-08-22T14:14:12 < Tectu> karlp, are we going to add that other picture to zypsnips? 2016-08-22T14:14:36 -!- Shavik [~Shavik@50-194-10-105-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-22T14:15:00 < karlp> which other one? 2016-08-22T14:15:07 < karlp> i'm not photoshopping, I'm working 2016-08-22T14:15:25 -!- Shavik 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2016-08-22T14:33:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T14:35:10 < Tectu> is he raging because he's not on the picture? 2016-08-22T14:35:42 < Steffanx> I guess. 2016-08-22T14:38:03 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-22T14:46:05 * Fleck rage-quits... 2016-08-22T14:48:34 < Lux> any ideas what might be stopping the usb bootloader on a stm32f4 from working ? 2016-08-22T14:48:50 < Lux> i connected boot0 to vcc and boot1 to gnd 2016-08-22T14:49:07 < Lux> same setup works on a f4 discovery board 2016-08-22T14:50:24 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-22T14:50:28 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q r2com!*@*] by Tectu 2016-08-22T14:50:31 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-22T14:50:35 < Lux> is it possible that pulling some usart pin to high will cause the internal rom bootloader to hang ? 2016-08-22T14:50:40 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-22T14:50:54 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-22T14:52:06 < dongs> yes 2016-08-22T14:52:17 < dongs> check the AN2606 2016-08-22T14:52:25 < dongs> it checks peripherals in some order 2016-08-22T14:52:33 < dongs> if it sees high level / whatever level that appnote mentions 2016-08-22T14:52:38 < dongs> it will try to bootload from that peripheral 2016-08-22T14:52:45 < Tectu> ah, default is uart bootloader, right? 2016-08-22T14:52:46 < dongs> pretty sure USART1 is first, followed by various I2C/CAN shits 2016-08-22T14:52:54 < dongs> yes, but I don't know hwihc order it checks them 2016-08-22T14:52:56 < dongs> AN2606 does. 2016-08-22T14:53:32 < dongs> also it doesn't bootload off alternate assignments 2016-08-22T14:53:40 < dongs> only primary mapping 2016-08-22T14:54:31 < Tectu> I didn't even know that one can bootload from USB 2016-08-22T14:54:40 < Tectu> (with the built-in stuff) 2016-08-22T14:55:36 < dongs> .. yes 2016-08-22T14:55:44 < Lux> dongs: thanks, looks like i have one of the usart rx pins high :/ 2016-08-22T14:55:46 < dongs> but only on shit that doesn't need external 1.5K resistor 2016-08-22T14:55:53 < dongs> Lux: yep, that will do it 2016-08-22T14:55:57 < Lux> in the appnote it only mentions waiting for that start seq 2016-08-22T14:56:07 < dongs> and youre trying to boot from USB? or what? 2016-08-22T14:56:12 < Lux> yeah 2016-08-22T14:56:14 < dongs> right. 2016-08-22T14:56:16 < dongs> not gonna work. 2016-08-22T14:57:03 < Lux> i probably can still bodge something to fix it 2016-08-22T15:00:47 < Tectu> https://community.ugfx.io/topic/504-ugfx-xilinx-virtex-5/?#comment-3565 2016-08-22T15:00:49 < Tectu> > Sorry for the fuzzy expression of thoughts. I'm confused in my mind. 2016-08-22T15:01:44 < Fleck> crt: I guess stm32F746G is my fav 2016-08-22T15:03:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T15:05:03 < karlp> rx high should be fine surely, rx low is startbit, rx high is idle...? 2016-08-22T15:07:26 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T15:11:02 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-22T15:44:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-22T15:45:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.184] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T15:46:19 < Laurenceb__> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_linguistic_example_sentences 2016-08-22T15:49:52 < Steffanx> Hows o6 crt? 2016-08-22T15:50:57 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/LBvZgRS.jpg 2016-08-22T15:52:36 < Laurenceb__> I hate scientific publishing :( 2016-08-22T15:52:39 < Laurenceb__> Please note that the referees must be from different countries to the authors. 2016-08-22T15:52:53 < Laurenceb__> like wtf and I have to organise them too 2016-08-22T15:53:25 < Laurenceb__> and organise it for them to be paid, and I must have never spoken to them before O_o 2016-08-22T15:54:18 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-22T15:55:46 < Laurenceb__> and 5 referees 2016-08-22T15:55:55 < Laurenceb__> why does anyone bother 2016-08-22T15:56:41 < brianx> because you are unlikely to get grants without publishing. 2016-08-22T15:56:49 < Laurenceb__> true 2016-08-22T15:56:52 * Laurenceb__ bbl 2016-08-22T15:56:57 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-22T16:01:28 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-22T16:03:10 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T16:12:59 < skroon> I've got a STM32F411 Discovery Kit, that I would like to put in DFU mode. I've shorted BOOT0 with VDD (jumper) and reset the board, but it doesn't seem to go in DFU mode, is there something I'm forgetting todo perhaps? 2016-08-22T16:13:27 < dongs> did you read AN2606? does 411 have DFU / USB boot? 2016-08-22T16:14:25 < skroon> dongs: the STM32F411xx is indeed in the AN2606 document 2016-08-22T16:14:53 < skroon> dongs: it say's boot0 = 1 boot1 = 0 2016-08-22T16:15:09 < dongs> isnt boot1 in option bytes on that chip? 2016-08-22T16:15:38 < skroon> dongs: that, unfortunately I don't know 2016-08-22T16:15:52 < dongs> try reading datasheet and reference manual? 2016-08-22T16:16:32 < skroon> dongs: so is dfu mode something that is a feature of the bootloader, or is it the chip (mcu) it self that implements this feature to update software? 2016-08-22T16:19:40 < aandrew> I don't recall STM32F411 having a USB boot 2016-08-22T16:19:51 < aandrew> might be wrong though 2016-08-22T16:21:19 < skroon> aandrew: I do see it in AN3156 and AN2606 but maybe i'm mis reading them 2016-08-22T16:21:19 < dongs> skroon: ROM bootloader having DFU or not would be in AN2606. 2016-08-22T16:21:22 < skroon> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/6a/17/92/02/58/98/45/0c/CD00264379.pdf/files/CD00264379.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00264379.pdf 2016-08-22T16:21:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-22T16:22:11 < dongs> AN2606 clearly says theres no USB on it 2016-08-22T16:23:02 < skroon> dongs: ow.. I thought because on page 1 they have the STMF411xx included there, that it was 2016-08-22T16:23:06 < dongs> nope 2016-08-22T16:23:12 < dongs> you go to like page 120 2016-08-22T16:24:13 < skroon> dongs: right, I was about to ask if that table on page 119 until 121 is showing the only ports which DFU mode is using 2016-08-22T16:24:26 < dongs> correct. 2016-08-22T16:24:34 < dongs> you can certainly write your own DFU bootloader 2016-08-22T16:24:44 < dongs> (there's a sample on ST site too somewhere in teh USB-FS library code) 2016-08-22T16:24:51 < skroon> I thought DFU was usb only :-) 2016-08-22T16:24:53 < dongs> but you would ha ve to flash it over uart or wahtever first 2016-08-22T16:24:55 < dongs> it is. 2016-08-22T16:25:04 < dongs> IF the chip has USB (as in hardware USB wahtever) 2016-08-22T16:26:58 < skroon> thanks! now i'm starting to understand this document a bit better as well 2016-08-22T16:27:13 < aandrew> sup dongs 2016-08-22T16:27:18 < aandrew> anything new 2016-08-22T16:27:24 < dongs> not much 2016-08-22T16:27:31 < dongs> freelancing and trolling as usual 2016-08-22T16:27:35 < dongs> busy as fuck 2016-08-22T16:28:04 < aandrew> good to be busy though 2016-08-22T16:28:10 < aandrew> I always say it beats the shit out of the alternative 2016-08-22T16:28:55 < skroon> dongs: page 121 does list DFU bootloader USB enabled for the USB OTG FS configured in Forced Device mode. This is different from regular usb dfu mode? 2016-08-22T16:28:59 < skroon> sorry page 122 2016-08-22T16:39:21 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T16:39:38 < dongs> well fuck i already lclosed it 2016-08-22T16:40:03 < dongs> oh 2016-08-22T16:40:07 < dongs> yeah i guess it does have usb dfu then 2016-08-22T16:40:22 < Ecco> hey 2016-08-22T16:40:38 < Tectu> Hello Mr. Ecco 2016-08-22T16:40:43 < Ecco> Doing good? 2016-08-22T16:40:47 < Tectu> doing good. 2016-08-22T16:40:51 < Ecco> great 2016-08-22T16:40:53 < Tectu> Doing good? 2016-08-22T16:41:01 < Ecco> yeah:) 2016-08-22T16:41:03 < Tectu> great 2016-08-22T16:41:20 < Ecco> I was wondering about the RCCAHB1 register 2016-08-22T16:41:31 < Ecco> (where you enable the clock on various AHB-plugged peripherals) 2016-08-22T16:41:51 < Ecco> do you have to turn those off and back on when you want to enter stop mode? 2016-08-22T16:42:17 < Ecco> My understanding is that you don't need to 2016-08-22T16:42:24 < Ecco> but then I wonder what's the point of those registers 2016-08-22T16:42:38 < karlp> save run time power 2016-08-22T16:43:13 < Ecco> oh 2016-08-22T16:43:15 < Ecco> I see 2016-08-22T16:43:39 < Ecco> so the MCU is running but in the current mode of operation you don't need this or that clock 2016-08-22T16:43:44 < Ecco> is that it? 2016-08-22T16:46:32 < dongs> does stop mode come back with a reset? 2016-08-22T16:51:45 < jpa-> Ecco: yeah 2016-08-22T16:52:26 < jpa-> the power savings from disabling individual clocks is somewhat small IMO, but of course when you are optimizing things, some 10-20% can mean a lot 2016-08-22T16:52:47 < jpa-> also higher speed peripherals like USB are much more significant 2016-08-22T16:56:12 < Tectu> does C++ have any means to force a subclass to implement a virtual function WHILE the base class still has an implementation for it on its own? 2016-08-22T16:59:23 < Ecco> Tectu: not that I know of 2016-08-22T16:59:36 < Ecco> how could that be possible though? 2016-08-22T16:59:50 < Ecco> It looks like bad design 2016-08-22T16:59:53 < Ecco> just make a pure virtual class 2016-08-22T17:00:03 < Ecco> s/class/function 2016-08-22T17:00:08 < Ecco> and use another function in the base class 2016-08-22T17:00:11 < Tectu> doesn't work in this case 2016-08-22T17:00:16 < Tectu> I don't need it, would just be fancy 2016-08-22T17:00:20 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-22T17:01:18 < Tectu> I have a virtual Type type() const; function in the base class. Each subclass is supposed to implement this and return the corresponding type. However, as there are hierarchies someone can accidentally forget to implement it in the subclass and you don't get any error/warning because the base class has the implementation. 2016-08-22T17:02:13 < Tectu> and as C++ gave us things like 'final' I was wondering whether there would be an opposite for 'final' (like 'force' or whatever) 2016-08-22T17:02:40 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T17:04:35 < jpa-> umm, so is Type different or the same? 2016-08-22T17:04:55 < jpa-> is it even an override if the type changes.. or just a new function 2016-08-22T17:05:08 < Tectu> it is an override. 2016-08-22T17:05:14 < Tectu> The base class has a type enum 2016-08-22T17:05:31 < Tectu> to distinguish between the different types of items (which inherit from base classes and sometimes themselves) 2016-08-22T17:05:35 < Ecco> that doesn't look so good 2016-08-22T17:05:40 < Ecco> it seems like you're re-inventing OOP 2016-08-22T17:05:44 < Ecco> lemme explain 2016-08-22T17:05:56 < Ecco> at some point you'll probably do a different behavior depending on the Type 2016-08-22T17:06:03 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-22T17:06:06 < Tectu> that's the whole point :p 2016-08-22T17:06:09 < Ecco> something like switch(a_type) { case Foo:... case Bar: ...} 2016-08-22T17:06:14 < Tectu> jup 2016-08-22T17:06:18 < Ecco> That's not very good 2016-08-22T17:06:22 < Ecco> you're re-inventing dispatch 2016-08-22T17:06:29 < jpa-> Tectu: in what situation do you use the base class directly, i.e. why does it need an implementation itself? 2016-08-22T17:06:41 < Ecco> just use virtuality 2016-08-22T17:06:51 < jpa-> Ecco: pure OOP is not always the perfect solution 2016-08-22T17:07:01 < Tectu> Ecco, that won't work where. 2016-08-22T17:07:03 < Tectu> lemme explain 2016-08-22T17:08:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/Manufacturing/Manufacture-Product-for-11335344/ 2016-08-22T17:08:08 < dongs> haha 2016-08-22T17:08:11 < dongs> missin a zero there broooo 2016-08-22T17:08:29 < Tectu> I am storing a list of those items to a JSON file. I need to be able to restore those items from the list. This means that I require type information in the factory that reads the file and creates the items accordingly 2016-08-22T17:08:33 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-232.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-22T17:08:45 < Tectu> so I use the type() method when saving to put that info into the file 2016-08-22T17:08:45 < dongs> 12x12 BLE with sensors, power management, induction charging... right 2016-08-22T17:08:49 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-22T17:08:56 < Ecco> so you're serializing your object 2016-08-22T17:09:16 < Tectu> yeah. Well, "serialize"... it has toJson() :p 2016-08-22T17:09:37 < Ecco> I didn't get it 2016-08-22T17:10:02 < jpa-> Tectu: how about the typeid operator? 2016-08-22T17:10:13 < Tectu> jpa-, uh? 2016-08-22T17:10:15 < Ecco> serializing is easy with virtuality. Just use a virtual toJSON() method 2016-08-22T17:10:19 < Ecco> Tectu: RTTI 2016-08-22T17:10:30 < Tectu> Ecco, yes, I am doing that. The problem is RESTORING 2016-08-22T17:10:32 < karlp> you mean, the bit that everyone turns off? 2016-08-22T17:10:34 < Ecco> deserializing 2016-08-22T17:10:41 < jpa-> karlp: that one, yeah :) 2016-08-22T17:11:39 < Tectu> Ecco, in my factory that restores from the file I need to know of which class I have to create an instance of, before I can call the virtual fromJson() of the base class 2016-08-22T17:11:40 < Tectu> http://paste.ugfx.org/show/d8213b878c 2016-08-22T17:12:02 < Ecco> Tectu: You may want to read https://isocpp.org/wiki/faq/serialization 2016-08-22T17:12:11 < Tectu> jpa-, am I doing it wrong? 2016-08-22T17:12:25 < jpa-> Tectu: not really, the type() operator is a common and easy to understand way to do it 2016-08-22T17:12:31 < jpa-> not particularly cool way, but that's ok 2016-08-22T17:12:48 < Tectu> jpa-, okay. What are my alternatives to play with the cool kids? 2016-08-22T17:12:57 < jpa-> dunno really, Ecco seems to know better 2016-08-22T17:13:20 < Ecco> More specifically, https://isocpp.org/wiki/faq/serialization#serialize-inherit-no-ptrs 2016-08-22T17:13:26 < Tectu> karlp, this isn't embedded, it's for some desktop software so I guess no need to turn RTTI off 2016-08-22T17:13:38 < jpa-> RTTI isn't even such a big problem in embedded either 2016-08-22T17:13:42 < jpa-> not sure if it helps much here though 2016-08-22T17:13:51 < jpa-> depends how your factory and classes are laid out 2016-08-22T17:13:51 < Tectu> wasn't RTTI an issue because it bloats much? 2016-08-22T17:13:56 < Tectu> Ecco, reading... 2016-08-22T17:14:05 < jpa-> it bloats, but not terribly much when i have tried it 2016-08-22T17:14:13 < jpa-> not sure if it can be turned on for only some classes 2016-08-22T17:14:20 < Ecco> The problem with RTTI is that it adds extra info to *all* classes 2016-08-22T17:14:27 < Ecco> jpa-: not that I know of 2016-08-22T17:14:36 < Ecco> You may try building some objects with -fno-rtti and some with 2016-08-22T17:14:58 < Ecco> but I've no idea if that's supported 2016-08-22T17:15:05 < Ecco> I'd think it's not 2016-08-22T17:15:17 < Tectu> Ecco, not sure why you still think that I am doing it wrong. 2016-08-22T17:15:26 < jpa-> so yeah, the link Ecco gave uses static constructors to populate a dictionary of per-object factories 2016-08-22T17:15:35 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T17:15:44 < Tectu> yeah 2016-08-22T17:15:47 < jpa-> Tectu: where did he say you are doing it wrong? 2016-08-22T17:15:58 < Tectu> That's not very good 2016-08-22T17:15:59 < Tectu> you're re-inventing dispatch 2016-08-22T17:16:09 < jpa-> that's different than "wrong" 2016-08-22T17:16:16 < Tectu> well, yeah :p 2016-08-22T17:16:16 < jpa-> i did also say "not very cool" ;) 2016-08-22T17:16:23 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-22T17:17:02 < gxti> yeah well i write all my code by filling out templates from the GoF design patterns book 2016-08-22T17:17:14 < Tectu> that dispatch table solution shown in Ecco's link is a bit overkill in my situation as I have a virtual fromJson() function. So as seen in my past it's all about the new call 2016-08-22T17:17:34 < Steffanx> Paste* 2016-08-22T17:17:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-22T17:17:45 < Steffanx> We dont know much about your past 2016-08-22T17:17:53 < Tectu> hah :p 2016-08-22T17:17:57 < Tectu> better get back to work, Mr. Steffanx 2016-08-22T17:18:13 < Steffanx> Tell ecco and jpa that. 2016-08-22T17:18:45 < Tectu> Ecco is French, he never works anyway. And jpa- can do anything in 5 minutes so not much work left for him. 2016-08-22T17:19:23 < Steffanx> He didnt solve this issue in 5 min 2016-08-22T17:20:12 < jpa-> i'm already home to tend to a crying baby 2016-08-22T17:20:17 < jpa-> but i didn't expect that to mean Tectu 2016-08-22T17:20:27 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-22T17:20:44 < Tectu> Ecco, is there a better (as in simpler) way to get things done in my situation? 2016-08-22T17:21:01 < jpa-> but yeah, if your problem is simple (a few classes that are in the same library), a simple solution is often better even if it is not particularly cool or doesn't scale that nicely 2016-08-22T17:21:43 < Tectu> yeah this is one piece of software with maybe 20 classes worst case 2016-08-22T17:22:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T17:23:00 < jpa-> so what is your base class, why does it need to be serialized also? 2016-08-22T17:23:34 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T17:24:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T17:24:33 < Tectu> context: This is for the "new" µGFX-Studio. My base class is the basic UGfxWindow that has position, dimensions and that stuff. from that the widget class is derived, from that multiple different widgets. It needs to be serialized because the user expects to be able to store his projects and reload them. In this case that means that the widgets will be recreated how he left when saving. 2016-08-22T17:28:20 < Laurenceb> v nice 2016-08-22T17:28:22 < Laurenceb> http://funnyjunk.com/channel/4chan/Tip+fedora+niggerwalk/LokGLYb#f84758_5158503 2016-08-22T17:38:29 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-22T17:39:59 < Steffanx> Jpa- why dont you play insurgency with us? 2016-08-22T17:40:14 < Steffanx> Us = rage2com, tectu and me 2016-08-22T17:40:55 < Tectu> also upskrtman 2016-08-22T17:41:20 < Steffanx> Oh and upgrdman 2016-08-22T17:41:42 < Tectu> Steffanx and I are so much insurgency pro, we even only play on a russian hardcore server anymore 2016-08-22T17:42:38 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T17:45:23 < Laurenceb> wtf is going on 2016-08-22T17:45:24 < Laurenceb> https://8ch.net/pol/src/1471842686177.png 2016-08-22T17:47:00 < jpa-> Steffanx: have the crying baby, no time to play 2016-08-22T17:47:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-22T17:49:42 < Tectu> shouldn't they stop crying after a few months? 2016-08-22T17:50:31 < jadew> Tectu, that's BS 2016-08-22T17:50:43 < Tectu> I have no idea about babies. I was just assuming, jadew 2016-08-22T17:50:53 < jadew> yeah, it's a common misconception 2016-08-22T17:51:29 < jadew> even when they learn how to express themselves, they'll still cry just to piss you off 2016-08-22T17:51:34 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-22T17:51:48 < Tectu> do you have kids, Mr. jadew ? 2016-08-22T17:51:49 < Laurenceb> shouldn't they stop crying after a few months? 2016-08-22T17:51:51 < Laurenceb> ]top kek 2016-08-22T17:51:55 < jadew> Tectu, yeah 2016-08-22T17:51:59 < Laurenceb> few days if you stop feeding them 2016-08-22T17:52:18 < Tectu> jadew, may I ask how (?:many|old) ? 2016-08-22T17:52:34 < jadew> Tectu, a son, 3 years and a couple of months 2016-08-22T17:53:09 < Tectu> man, I can't imagine how much patience, nerves and commitment it takes to raise a child 2016-08-22T17:53:17 < jadew> just yesterday he started crying the whole way to Ikea that he wants his mom to stay in the back with him, we didn't comply so he cried for an hour straight 2016-08-22T17:53:33 < Rob235> wear a rubber 2016-08-22T17:53:34 < jadew> we didn't go to Ikea anymore, we had to turn back 2016-08-22T17:54:06 < jadew> Tectu, indeed 2016-08-22T17:54:11 < Tectu> yeah, our parents did that with us too, Mr. jadew. apparently you raise weird kids otherwise. 2016-08-22T17:54:22 < Tectu> not sure what the proper english term is 2016-08-22T17:54:26 < Tectu> kids that always get what they want? 2016-08-22T17:54:32 < Tectu> "spoiled child"? 2016-08-22T17:54:35 < jadew> spoiled 2016-08-22T17:54:36 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-22T17:55:04 < jadew> yeah, the trick is that when they have this sort of behaviour, they have to lose whatever they're crying for 2016-08-22T17:55:13 < Tectu> I wonder how a crying romanian child sounds like. for some reason I assume that it has some very bad-ass low-pitched cry 2016-08-22T17:55:23 < jadew> if you give in, you're screwed 2016-08-22T17:55:34 < Tectu> jadew, how often does one have to do that until "they get it"? 2016-08-22T17:55:50 < Rob235> until they turn 18 and you can kick them out 2016-08-22T17:55:55 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-22T17:56:08 < jadew> Tectu, well, from 2 to 3 years old (and a bit) they have tantrums that they can't control 2016-08-22T17:56:30 < jadew> they start acting up and they go on for ~half an hour 2016-08-22T17:56:52 < englishman> id like kids, but i dont want to touch them or anything 2016-08-22T17:56:59 < jadew> and it can happen as often as a couple of times per day 2016-08-22T17:57:03 < Tectu> I couldn't handle that, jadew. 2016-08-22T17:57:08 < englishman> just show them to me when they can start contributing to my retirement fund 2016-08-22T17:57:09 < Tectu> I'd go nuts and just dump it somewhere. 2016-08-22T17:57:45 < englishman> surely swisspeople have govt assigned au pairs or something 2016-08-22T17:57:48 < jadew> Tectu, yeah, I know 2016-08-22T17:57:55 < englishman> so you never have to see/hear/touch children 2016-08-22T17:58:26 < Tectu> I hate children anyway. Seriously. I fucking hate kids. I'm not sure what's the issue with me but whenever I see/heard/smell a kid I'm like "nope, I'm outta here" 2016-08-22T17:58:37 < jadew> englishman, thing is, they don't even remember what you're doing for them 2016-08-22T17:58:59 < englishman> dont all kids have ipads these days 2016-08-22T17:59:08 < Tectu> neighbour has two boys (like 4 ish). They greet me on the street and I don't know what to do 2016-08-22T17:59:11 < Tectu> somehow I don't see kids as people 2016-08-22T17:59:22 < jadew> Tectu, I'm the same with other people's kids 2016-08-22T17:59:34 < jadew> with yours it will be different 2016-08-22T17:59:55 < Tectu> jadew, oh boy. Please don't tell me that. Now I am afraid that I will have kids on my own one day. because THAT issue I have with kids is what makes me so sure that I will never ever have kids. And I don't ever want kids. 2016-08-22T17:59:58 < Tectu> lol no 2016-08-22T17:59:59 < Tectu> kid == kid 2016-08-22T18:00:02 < Tectu> annoying as fuck 2016-08-22T18:00:15 < Tectu> I'd rather make out with Laurenceb 2016-08-22T18:00:21 < Laurenceb> congrats you have autism 2016-08-22T18:00:24 < Laurenceb> ewww 2016-08-22T18:00:34 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-22T18:00:35 < jadew> yeah, it's verry different once you have them 2016-08-22T18:00:44 < jadew> I thought I'd never have kids too 2016-08-22T18:00:47 < Tectu> what makes it so different, Mr. jadew ? 2016-08-22T18:00:54 < Tectu> jadew, did you forget to rubber? :p 2016-08-22T18:01:03 < jadew> Tectu, they're cute and helpless 2016-08-22T18:01:08 < Tectu> -> useless. 2016-08-22T18:01:11 < jadew> and they're dependent on you 2016-08-22T18:01:19 < Tectu> that's what I got uGFX customers for 2016-08-22T18:01:27 < jadew> yeah, there's something weird going on that makes you form a very strong bond with them 2016-08-22T18:01:38 < Rob235> do people actually use rubbers anymore? nuvaring ftw 2016-08-22T18:02:07 < Tectu> afaik rubber is the by far securest "thing", no? 2016-08-22T18:02:10 < Tectu> except sterilization. 2016-08-22T18:02:17 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-22T18:02:19 < Tectu> jadew, well I hope I will never experience that. 2016-08-22T18:02:29 < Tectu> sterilization is actually on my todo list 2016-08-22T18:02:37 < englishman> its not hard 2016-08-22T18:02:38 < Rob235> I'm already halfway there 2016-08-22T18:02:44 < englishman> scissors, scalpel, bit of tape 2016-08-22T18:02:45 < Laurenceb> congratz you are a genetic dead end :P 2016-08-22T18:02:49 < englishman> and a soldering iron 2016-08-22T18:02:53 < Laurenceb> DarWIN 2016-08-22T18:02:53 < jadew> haha Laurenceb 2016-08-22T18:02:59 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-22T18:03:02 < englishman> Laurenceb alaready is, but not by choice 2016-08-22T18:03:07 < Laurenceb> top bantz 2016-08-22T18:03:17 < Tectu> anyway, I envy my father. That man has patience like a fucking rock. 2016-08-22T18:03:28 < Tectu> I'd have killed myself so hard if I'd be my kid 2016-08-22T18:03:39 < Tectu> that sentence makes less sense than expected. 2016-08-22T18:03:46 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T18:03:58 < jadew> it's a learned skill 2016-08-22T18:04:08 < Ecco> the securest thing remains a couple of bricks 2016-08-22T18:04:08 < Rob235> one I hope I never have to learn 2016-08-22T18:04:25 < jadew> + I can't imagine what a relief it must be when you don't have to worry about your kid going out anymore 2016-08-22T18:04:39 < jadew> that alone must compensate for a lot of crap you might do 2016-08-22T18:04:41 < Tectu> jadew, I try to learn it every day (not for kids, more because I think that it's a good skill to have). 2016-08-22T18:05:16 < Tectu> I assume having a daughter is even way worse in that regard 2016-08-22T18:05:51 < Tectu> your son fucking the 18 hottest chicks in town in one week: "Well done boy!". Your daughter fucking the 18 hottest dicks in town in one week: "C'mon, staph it you slut". 2016-08-22T18:06:11 < Tectu> 2016-08-22T18:06:19 < jadew> it's not your business to care about that stuff IMO 2016-08-22T18:06:32 < gxti> "staph" heh 2016-08-22T18:06:52 < Tectu> I am already worrying about my daughter "going out" and I don't even have a daughter, jadew 2016-08-22T18:07:05 < jadew> your job is to educate them well enough to make sure they'll make the right decissions when they have to 2016-08-22T18:07:17 < Ecco> they say that if you have a boy, you only have one dick to worry about 2016-08-22T18:07:20 < Tectu> yeah that's what my parents managed to do. still not sure how though. 2016-08-22T18:07:27 < Tectu> lol @ Ecco 2016-08-22T18:07:28 < jadew> Ecco, hehe 2016-08-22T18:08:14 < Tectu> being a parent just seems to be a thing so easy to fuck up, with so little changes of fixing it again. 2016-08-22T18:08:30 < jadew> there's a lot of wisdom that is harder to pass on to daugthers tho 2016-08-22T18:08:35 < englishman> thats why you have a lot of kids 2016-08-22T18:08:36 < jadew> to boys too I guess 2016-08-22T18:08:36 < englishman> like 14 2016-08-22T18:08:41 < Tectu> jadew, what do you mean? 2016-08-22T18:08:46 < englishman> so its more likely youll get a good one in the batch 2016-08-22T18:09:00 < Rob235> that sounds expensive 2016-08-22T18:09:02 < jadew> for example, don't be in a threesome with another girl and the guy using a single condom 2016-08-22T18:09:07 < Tectu> englishman, not sure about over there but here it was very common to have between 6 and 14 children in my fathers and previous generations. 2016-08-22T18:09:13 < englishman> yeah Tectu sae 2016-08-22T18:09:14 < Tectu> eg my father has 8 siblings 2016-08-22T18:09:17 < englishman> do you speak french? 2016-08-22T18:09:19 < englishman> thres a song about that 2016-08-22T18:09:24 < jadew> that's difficult information to pass to a girl 2016-08-22T18:09:26 < Tectu> didn't we speak french in query last time? 2016-08-22T18:09:31 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU1MfTr9m_c 2016-08-22T18:09:33 < jadew> to a boy you have to warn him about unprotected blowjobs 2016-08-22T18:09:38 < jadew> and that's easy 2016-08-22T18:10:06 < Tectu> jadew, oh boy... 2016-08-22T18:10:14 < Tectu> you really know what you're doing, eh? 2016-08-22T18:10:22 < Rob235> sounds like it 2016-08-22T18:10:26 < Tectu> anyway, I am sure there's an app for all "that" talk these days 2016-08-22T18:10:31 < Tectu> maybe even HTML5 animations 2016-08-22T18:10:55 < Tectu> jadew, I am now actually curious how you would explain that to your daughter. 2016-08-22T18:11:10 < jadew> Tectu, yeah, that's a difficult one 2016-08-22T18:11:20 < jadew> the mom has to do it 2016-08-22T18:11:27 < Tectu> that should be in some dungeons&dragons quest or something 2016-08-22T18:11:36 < Tectu> jadew, yeah I was just about to ask that, wouldn't that be a mom job? 2016-08-22T18:11:59 < Tectu> I have no idea how I would talk about that kind of business to my son/daughter. I wouldn't even talk to my father/mother about it. 2016-08-22T18:12:13 < Ecco> well let's give ourselves a break 2016-08-22T18:12:13 < jadew> casually 2016-08-22T18:12:18 < Tectu> it just doesn't seem to be something you talk about with people you share the same shower with. 2016-08-22T18:12:24 < Ecco> we're a bunch of nerds on an IRC channel 2016-08-22T18:12:34 < Ecco> it's not like we'd ever *need* this kind of talk 2016-08-22T18:12:38 < jadew> you don't put any "weight" on the discussion 2016-08-22T18:12:42 < Laurenceb> lul Ecco 2016-08-22T18:12:46 < jadew> and you keep it as informative as possible 2016-08-22T18:12:53 < jadew> otherwise it gets weird 2016-08-22T18:12:57 < Tectu> Ecco, apparently we do. jadew has kids, so does jpa-, Fleck, and probably 50 other guys in here 2016-08-22T18:13:16 < Tectu> jadew, I have the expectation that the fact that you keep trying it as informative as possible makes it go weird. 2016-08-22T18:13:21 < Tectu> jadew, like american pie. 2016-08-22T18:13:24 < Tectu> +in 2016-08-22T18:13:35 < jadew> yeah, not like that 2016-08-22T18:13:55 < englishman> then theres all the kids you dont know about 2016-08-22T18:14:23 < jadew> for a bad influence? 2016-08-22T18:14:44 < englishman> when is a good age to introduce your child to efnet 2016-08-22T18:14:46 < Tectu> jadew, also, regarding that threesome @ condom sharing, have fun explaining the same thing but with backdoor action to your 16/17 (or probably 13 for americans) years old daughter 2016-08-22T18:14:56 < Tectu> jadew, I think englishman means the kids you don't know you have :p 2016-08-22T18:15:09 < jadew> ah, hehe 2016-08-22T18:15:30 < jadew> Tectu, I think a lot of it you don't explain, it just has to come from previous education 2016-08-22T18:15:42 < Tectu> you mean like math? 2016-08-22T18:15:46 < jadew> most people are not aware of bacteria and microbes 2016-08-22T18:15:51 < Tectu> what? 2016-08-22T18:15:55 < Tectu> now you're not being serious. 2016-08-22T18:15:59 < jadew> like, they know they exist, but they don't realize how they spread 2016-08-22T18:16:06 < jadew> or interract with the body 2016-08-22T18:16:06 < Tectu> every 10 years old knows taht 2016-08-22T18:16:19 < Tectu> aah, yeah 2016-08-22T18:16:22 < Tectu> with that I agree 2016-08-22T18:16:56 < jadew> + porn doesn't help 2016-08-22T18:17:07 < jadew> you rarely see a condom in a blowjob 2016-08-22T18:17:44 < englishman> what is even the point of that 2016-08-22T18:17:47 < Tectu> well, nothing you would want to see anyway 2016-08-22T18:18:00 < jadew> which is crazy, considering what kind of "actors" they're using 2016-08-22T18:18:08 < Tectu> englishman, to prevent lingual fertilization 2016-08-22T18:18:10 < jadew> it's like they're wearing condoms not to get them pregnant 2016-08-22T18:18:32 < Tectu> I guess we don't watch the same porn. I rarely see any condoms at all. 2016-08-22T18:18:35 < Tectu> not that I'd watch any porn 2016-08-22T18:18:42 < Laurenceb> cool story bro 2016-08-22T18:18:46 < jadew> haha 2016-08-22T18:19:51 < Tectu> "Condoms are overrated" 2016-08-22T18:20:22 < Tectu> jadew, as a father, what do you think is the best age to start with "those talks" anyway? 2016-08-22T18:20:25 < englishman> more like <1999> 2016-08-22T18:20:36 < Tectu> seems like that is a serious consideration 2016-08-22T18:20:37 < jadew> Tectu, don't know... 10? 2016-08-22T18:20:59 < jadew> you don't have to do it all at once 2016-08-22T18:21:00 < Tectu> we should ask on stackoverflow 2016-08-22T18:21:14 < Laurenceb> moar like condomoverflow 2016-08-22T18:21:23 < jadew> but by 12 most of them have reached critical sexual curiosity 2016-08-22T18:21:40 < jadew> so you have to make sure that they have whatever information you think it's worth having 2016-08-22T18:21:46 < jpa-> englishman: regarding Laurenceb being a evolutionary dead end.. i sure hope so, can you imagine if his child was *more* into the same direction 2016-08-22T18:21:59 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-22T18:22:05 < Tectu> "critical sexual curiosity" 2016-08-22T18:22:13 < Laurenceb> new evolutionary path of trolls 2016-08-22T18:22:14 < jadew> Tectu - they'll start masturbating 2016-08-22T18:22:18 < englishman> would be an actual raccoon 2016-08-22T18:22:21 < jpa-> Tectu: here they say hormonal birth control is more reliable than condoms, if you are only worried about pregnancy 2016-08-22T18:22:42 < jadew> jpa-, yeah, but has side effects for the woman, no? 2016-08-22T18:22:47 < jpa-> yep 2016-08-22T18:23:05 < Tectu> jpa-, interesting. last update I got was something like 98% for condoms and a few percent below for hormonal birth control 2016-08-22T18:23:19 < Tectu> I assume the issue with hormonal birth control is that the doctor has to give you "the right ones" 2016-08-22T18:23:21 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-22T18:23:30 < jpa-> nah, more like that you have to remember to take them 2016-08-22T18:23:34 < englishman> ^ 2016-08-22T18:23:36 < jadew> yeah, and that's hard to do based on just a consultation 2016-08-22T18:23:43 < englishman> i couldnt remember to take a pill every fucking day 2016-08-22T18:23:44 < jadew> oh and that too 2016-08-22T18:23:44 < englishman> could you? 2016-08-22T18:23:53 < jadew> at the exact hour 2016-08-22T18:23:55 < Tectu> they'll start masturbating 2016-08-22T18:23:56 < Tectu> jadew, that's when your monthly income has to increase to compensate for the increasing demand of tissue papers then? 2016-08-22T18:23:58 < englishman> yeah fuck that noise 2016-08-22T18:24:12 < Tectu> ah, interesting 2016-08-22T18:24:15 < jadew> Tectu, haha, yeah 2016-08-22T18:24:31 < Tectu> well you only "choose" women with commitment anyway, right? 2016-08-22T18:24:46 < Tectu> first thing you ask in the disco is "do you remember to take the pill?". Then "What's your name"? 2016-08-22T18:25:23 < englishman> Tectu has just displayed that he has never been to a discotheque 2016-08-22T18:25:31 < jpa-> who has? 2016-08-22T18:25:31 < jadew> also, if she throws up for whatever reason a couple of hours after taking the pill, it's considered that you're not protected for that month 2016-08-22T18:25:35 < Tectu> lol @ englishman 2016-08-22T18:25:38 < jpa-> do they even exist anymore? 2016-08-22T18:26:07 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5hrUGFhsXo 2016-08-22T18:26:10 < jadew> I've been a couple of times, didn't like it 2016-08-22T18:26:11 < Tectu> anyway, vasectomy is something a regular doctor can do too, no? no need for hospital and expensive bills 2016-08-22T18:26:31 < jadew> Tectu, yeah, but why? 2016-08-22T18:26:45 < jadew> there's so much of the wrong DNA out there, don't you want to make a difference? 2016-08-22T18:26:47 < jpa-> nuvaring was pretty nice from what i hear, except that atleast in .fi there is only the combined kind of hormones available in ring form, so it has side effects for some people 2016-08-22T18:26:58 < Tectu> jadew, I don't think that I'd have a lot of stuff to contribute in that regard 2016-08-22T18:27:13 < jpa-> better wait 2016-08-22T18:27:19 < jpa-> or atleast get clamps instead of cut 2016-08-22T18:27:22 < jadew> yeah, don't rush into it 2016-08-22T18:27:35 < jpa-> 5 years ago i couldn't have imagined wanting a child 2016-08-22T18:27:38 < jpa-> but things thange 2016-08-22T18:27:40 < jpa-> *change 2016-08-22T18:27:50 < Tectu> did you want it or did you get tricked into getting one? 2016-08-22T18:27:55 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T18:27:57 < jpa-> 100% planned 2016-08-22T18:28:12 < jadew> yeah, for me it was a change in direction too 2016-08-22T18:28:21 < Tectu> jpa-, clamps... is that what I read about vasectomy being a reversible process? 2016-08-22T18:28:23 < englishman> jpa-: can we have pix of the finnish kid kit 2016-08-22T18:28:35 < Tectu> jpa-, you're like 28 now, right? 2016-08-22T18:28:39 < jpa-> yeah 2016-08-22T18:28:42 < Tectu> jadew, may I ask how old you are? 2016-08-22T18:28:52 < jadew> my wife (g/f at the time) got diagnosed with something that prevented her from having kids and I was reliefed, but as time went by I realized things might not be as black and white 2016-08-22T18:28:58 < jpa-> englishman: http://mutsie.bellablogit.fi/files/2016/03/%C3%A4itiyspakkaus2016g.jpg 2016-08-22T18:29:03 < englishman> :D 2016-08-22T18:29:08 < jadew> it just happened that she got pregnant and we were both happy about it 2016-08-22T18:29:13 < jadew> Tectu, 31 2016-08-22T18:29:18 < Tectu> jadew, glad to hear that 2016-08-22T18:29:48 < jpa-> englishman: that box is where many finnish kids sleep their first months 2016-08-22T18:30:02 < englishman> interesting 2016-08-22T18:30:14 < englishman> what a cool tradition 2016-08-22T18:30:42 < Tectu> jpa-, is the box populated when he sleeps in it? 2016-08-22T18:30:47 < jpa-> also pretty useful, with those + some clothes from my sister, we haven't had to buy a single piece of clothing for the baby yet 2016-08-22T18:30:52 < jpa-> Tectu: hopefully not 2016-08-22T18:31:24 < Tectu> time to find some stats about STDs in switzerland. for some reason I feel like we are pretty clean in that regard. 2016-08-22T18:31:37 < Tectu> getting vasectomy and still wearing a rubber seems silly 2016-08-22T18:32:12 < jadew> haha 2016-08-22T18:32:41 < englishman> anyone else in here use chrome apps 2016-08-22T18:32:47 < Tectu> yeah me 2016-08-22T18:32:48 < jpa-> depends totally on how many people you manage to bed 2016-08-22T18:32:54 < Tectu> color picker and measureit is pretty useful, englishman 2016-08-22T18:32:56 < englishman> isnt that shit fucked up Tectu 2016-08-22T18:33:02 < Tectu> englishman, can't complain. 2016-08-22T18:33:02 < englishman> did you hear the news? 2016-08-22T18:33:09 < Tectu> englishman, no 2016-08-22T18:33:12 < englishman> they will be killed. 2016-08-22T18:33:18 < Tectu> lol @ jpa- 2016-08-22T18:33:19 < englishman> disabled sometime in 2018 2016-08-22T18:33:22 < Tectu> englishman, WHAT? 2016-08-22T18:33:24 < englishman> yep. 2016-08-22T18:33:27 < Tectu> link? 2016-08-22T18:33:31 < englishman> ahh 2016-08-22T18:33:43 < Tectu> are you sure that you're not talking about 4chan? 2016-08-22T18:33:43 < jadew> that's fine, you can have this: http://dumb.ro/tb/download/ColorPicker.zip 2016-08-22T18:33:45 < englishman> http://venturebeat.com/2016/08/19/google-will-kill-chrome-apps-for-windows-mac-and-linux-in-early-2018/ 2016-08-22T18:33:49 < englishman> Tectu: yes 2016-08-22T18:33:49 < jadew> I made it :P 2016-08-22T18:34:01 < englishman> its pretty shitty news 2016-08-22T18:34:04 < Tectu> jadew, do I need to get a rubber before unzipping? :p 2016-08-22T18:34:09 < jadew> haha 2016-08-22T18:34:11 < jadew> no 2016-08-22T18:34:17 < jpa-> apparently they'll make them run in the browser directly 2016-08-22T18:34:22 < jadew> you should scan it tho, you never know 2016-08-22T18:34:23 < Tectu> jadew, "that's what she said" 2016-08-22T18:34:29 < englishman> but how are serial ports, usb etc going to be used 2016-08-22T18:34:36 < englishman> do extensions allow that 2016-08-22T18:34:43 < englishman> its still annoying as fuck 2016-08-22T18:34:55 < englishman> and fuck google for making all their shit web online sign in shit only 2016-08-22T18:34:58 < englishman> with your real name 2016-08-22T18:34:58 < Tectu> englishman, what? I guess we don't talk about the same thing then. I talk about chrome addons like adblock, https-everywhere, ghostery and stuff 2016-08-22T18:35:06 < englishman> those are extensions 2016-08-22T18:35:06 < jpa-> hopefully by that time they'll have javascript interfaces for that 2016-08-22T18:35:24 < englishman> i dono, it took them years just to have stable serial port support 2016-08-22T18:35:27 < englishman> then changed everything 2016-08-22T18:35:42 < Tectu> why the fuck would you need serial port access in your web-browser? 2016-08-22T18:35:45 < englishman> ignored issues for 1 year + 2016-08-22T18:35:46 < jadew> didn't they do that in order to support their netbook stuff? 2016-08-22T18:36:12 < englishman> Tectu: i have no idea. but in apps, there are bunch of popular apps that use serial port / usb 2016-08-22T18:36:22 < Tectu> englishman, such as? 2016-08-22T18:36:23 < englishman> its a very easy way to have crossplatform support 2016-08-22T18:36:37 < jpa-> and easy to install 2016-08-22T18:36:46 < englishman> Tectu: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/baseflight-configurator/mppkgnedeapfejgfimkdoninnofofigk?hl=en 2016-08-22T18:36:50 < englishman> 60k users 2016-08-22T18:37:01 < englishman> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cleanflight-configurator/enacoimjcgeinfnnnpajinjgmkahmfgb?hl=en 2016-08-22T18:37:04 < englishman> 125k users 2016-08-22T18:37:29 < Tectu> wow, okay 2016-08-22T18:37:38 < Tectu> buw ait 2016-08-22T18:37:41 < Tectu> but wait* 2016-08-22T18:37:51 < Tectu> is that chrome browser related? 2016-08-22T18:37:54 < englishman> yes 2016-08-22T18:37:56 < Tectu> or is this ChromeOS? 2016-08-22T18:37:59 < englishman> they are chrome apps 2016-08-22T18:38:04 < englishman> you can start them from the taskbar 2016-08-22T18:38:37 < Tectu> but they use webkit? 2016-08-22T18:38:54 < englishman> yeah they are like extensions that run in their own window 2016-08-22T18:38:59 < Tectu> okay 2016-08-22T18:39:00 < englishman> but have access to drivers 2016-08-22T18:39:04 < englishman> like serial/usb 2016-08-22T18:39:11 < englishman> including winusb/libusb 2016-08-22T18:39:18 < Tectu> but are they programs on your computer that run offline or do they require online connection? 2016-08-22T18:39:22 < englishman> offline 2016-08-22T18:39:32 < Tectu> I see 2016-08-22T18:39:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T18:39:36 < englishman> hence they are *actually usable* 2016-08-22T18:39:53 < Tectu> jpa-, may I ask you what changed your "not getting kids" mind? 2016-08-22T18:40:01 < englishman> google just assumed youll always have 4g unlimited access wherever you go 2016-08-22T18:40:05 < englishman> which is ok for SF bay area 2016-08-22T18:40:08 < englishman> but not irl 2016-08-22T18:40:39 < Tectu> SF == San Francisco? 2016-08-22T18:40:41 < englishman> yes 2016-08-22T18:40:53 < englishman> which is google's definition of everyone 2016-08-22T18:41:00 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-22T18:41:23 < Tectu> this is everyone else: http://www.ueliraz.ch/2005/ferden/faldum-16.jpg 2016-08-22T18:41:46 < jpa-> Tectu: financial stability and getting over depression 2016-08-22T18:42:05 < Tectu> jpa-, getting a kid doesn't sound like it will help in any way with financial stuff 2016-08-22T18:42:13 < Tectu> jpa-, unless you had too much and you didn't want it to grow anymore 2016-08-22T18:42:26 < jpa-> i mean, attaining financial stability made me less afraid of getting a kid 2016-08-22T18:42:34 < Tectu> also, to me, getting a kid sounds like a starter kit for getting into depressions :p 2016-08-22T18:42:53 < jpa-> these both are things that happened prior to wanting kids 2016-08-22T18:43:43 < jpa-> (though, curiously, having a kid has somewhat helped with whatever leftovers of depression i've had.. funny little creatures) 2016-08-22T18:43:52 < Tectu> I see 2016-08-22T18:44:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-22T18:44:12 < Tectu> so the bottom line is that kids are just going to mess with your brain & emotions, tricking you into taking care of them 2016-08-22T18:44:37 < englishman> like cats and their toxoplasmosis 2016-08-22T18:44:53 < jpa-> sure, pretty natural instinct in fact 2016-08-22T18:45:23 < jpa-> i bet a small part of the same makes people care for their software etc. 2016-08-22T18:50:24 < Tectu> jpa-, what are the (in school) mandatory languages in finnland? 2016-08-22T18:50:29 < Tectu> I assume english and swedish? 2016-08-22T18:50:30 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T18:50:37 < Tectu> or rather english and russian? 2016-08-22T18:50:50 < jpa-> finnish, english and swedish 2016-08-22T18:50:53 < skroon> dongs: sorry late response :-) 2016-08-22T18:51:22 < skroon> dongs: would you mind checking page 122, i'm just in doubt if i'm really looking at this correctly 2016-08-22T18:51:27 < jpa-> you can replace part of the english and part of the swedish with other languages though (there is a mandatory part and optional part) 2016-08-22T18:51:49 < Tectu> jpa-, so finns usually don't speak russian? 2016-08-22T18:51:58 < jpa-> usually no 2016-08-22T18:52:07 < jpa-> even german is probably more common than russian 2016-08-22T18:52:35 < jpa-> (we don't really usually speak swedish either, even though everyone is taught some there is so little chances to actually use it that we forget most of it) 2016-08-22T18:53:01 < Tectu> how come? Russia seems to be rather close ;) 2016-08-22T18:53:13 < jpa-> (i haven't used my swedish for much anything except talking with zyp, and det är verkligen inte tillräkligt bra för det) 2016-08-22T18:53:14 < Tectu> here you just learn the languages of the surrounding countries + english 2016-08-22T18:54:11 < jpa-> here you can choose, except due to large fennoswede population swedish has a special legal position as a minority language) 2016-08-22T18:54:27 < Tectu> what is that supposed to mean? 2016-08-22T18:54:43 < englishman> oh man, i just shot a marmot in the garden, grossest kill ever, its eyes popped out 2016-08-22T18:54:49 < jpa-> lots of swedish language finnish citizens, so we have a law that requires teaching it 2016-08-22T18:55:05 < jpa-> even though pretty much all of the swedish language citizens know how to speak finnish 2016-08-22T18:55:12 < jpa-> politics doesn't always make sense 2016-08-22T18:55:38 < jpa-> englishman: marmots look cute, you should have fed it instead 2016-08-22T18:55:44 < englishman> no! 2016-08-22T18:55:58 < englishman> i will feed the kittys 2016-08-22T18:56:01 < englishman> the marmots eat all the veggies 2016-08-22T18:56:30 < Tectu> lol, if you'd shoot a marmot in your garden you'd end up in jail here 2016-08-22T18:56:47 < Tectu> any kind of shooting besides on a shooting range or hunting is so strictly illegal here 2016-08-22T18:56:56 < englishman> this is self-defence 2016-08-22T18:57:06 < englishman> and anyway there is nobody in miles to hear 2016-08-22T18:58:46 < Tectu> oh no, just entered defcon 1. 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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/22/armv8_scalable_vectors/ 2016-08-22T20:11:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-22T20:20:21 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T20:26:02 < englishman> karlp: doooo it 2016-08-22T20:27:09 < karlp> meh, only have 100meg ethernet everywhere, wifi router only has 100meg too. 2016-08-22T20:27:16 < karlp> too much to upgrade, 2016-08-22T20:27:18 < englishman> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5292727332 2016-08-22T20:27:42 < karlp> I get something like 95/95 right now, I'm pretty ok with that. 2016-08-22T20:31:08 < kakimir> I need 3d router maan 2016-08-22T20:31:16 < kakimir> small one and big one 2016-08-22T20:34:19 < kakimir> woah... no way 2016-08-22T20:34:42 < kakimir> I need to use 3d print service 2016-08-22T20:34:48 < kakimir> for small parts 2016-08-22T20:34:59 < kakimir> molds basically 2016-08-22T20:35:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:bda7:1fd:4957:2d4f] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T20:35:31 < kakimir> and if I don't even once use such service 2016-08-22T20:35:38 < kakimir> for making some mold part 2016-08-22T20:36:02 < kakimir> I don't need the router or the part neather 2016-08-22T20:39:55 < Steffanx> You make no sense kakimir.. you need it but dont need it? 2016-08-22T20:40:06 < kakimir> I want it 2016-08-22T20:40:10 < kakimir> I don't need it 2016-08-22T20:40:46 < Steffanx> also 3d router as in cnc? 2016-08-22T20:40:51 < Steffanx> or printer? 2016-08-22T20:41:27 < kakimir> 3d router as shiet that can do wood, plastic, aluminum 2016-08-22T20:42:40 < Steffanx> "do wood" ? 2016-08-22T20:43:23 < kakimir> morning wood 2016-08-22T20:43:39 < Rob235> sounds like cnc 2016-08-22T20:43:41 < Steffanx> mill, cut, print? 2016-08-22T20:44:16 < kakimir> no need for fukken 3d printers there is service for it 2016-08-22T20:44:20 < kakimir> get stuff without mess 2016-08-22T20:44:37 < kakimir> not expencives at all 2016-08-22T20:44:51 < Steffanx> cnc = mess. unless you do some automagically vacuuming 2016-08-22T20:45:05 < kakimir> sure 2016-08-22T20:45:32 < Laurenceb_> crt at work 2016-08-22T20:45:33 < Laurenceb_> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/posters-of-rolf-harris-and-isis-bomber-appear-on-walls-in-australia-mocking-multiculturalism-a7061251.html 2016-08-22T20:47:25 < kakimir> should we draw stm32 map with nicks? 2016-08-22T20:48:50 < Rob235> http://rctimer.com/product-639.html ? 2016-08-22T20:49:21 < englishman> is there a question there? or just the question mark 2016-08-22T20:49:29 < Rob235> just the question mark 2016-08-22T20:49:31 < Rob235> heh 2016-08-22T20:49:38 < Rob235> anyone have experience with rc timer props? 2016-08-22T20:49:43 < Rob235> seems like a good price 2016-08-22T20:49:52 < Rob235> for testing props 2016-08-22T20:50:10 < englishman> i think i have a box of those that were so awful i completely changed the copter to use better props 2016-08-22T20:50:42 < Rob235> good review 2016-08-22T20:54:48 < englishman> oh cool, there's going to be a She's All That remake 2016-08-22T20:54:52 < englishman> completely necessary 2016-08-22T20:56:02 < Steffanx> sounds awful 2016-08-22T20:56:07 < Steffanx> better get some stroopwafels 2016-08-22T20:56:29 < englishman> death by stroopwafel 2016-08-22T20:56:53 < englishman> also remakes of the crow and scarface 2016-08-22T20:57:01 < englishman> what could possibly go wrong 2016-08-22T21:00:02 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T21:06:04 < ReadError> hey uhh 2016-08-22T21:06:07 < ReadError> find props locally 2016-08-22T21:06:12 < ReadError> or in the USA 2016-08-22T21:06:21 < ReadError> Subscribe&Save 2016-08-22T21:06:26 < Steffanx> At least he is in the us of a. 2016-08-22T21:06:41 < ReadError> or $country 2016-08-22T21:06:54 < ReadError> most have multirotor parts ;) 2016-08-22T21:07:11 < ReadError> Rob235 stick to HQ 2016-08-22T21:07:22 < ReadError> they will come balanced mostly 2016-08-22T21:09:02 < englishman> he wants 12" crap tho 2016-08-22T21:09:18 < Rob235> hq has 12x4.5 2016-08-22T21:10:08 < Rob235> http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161850392051 2016-08-22T21:10:11 < Rob235> :P 2016-08-22T21:16:13 < Laurenceb_> arg wtf 2016-08-22T21:16:29 < Laurenceb_> whole panel of horsey loggers with perfect working lsm9ds1 2016-08-22T21:16:49 < Laurenceb_> but broken ads1298 due to gnd pins not reflowing 2016-08-22T21:16:55 < Laurenceb_> I fail 2016-08-22T21:17:19 < Laurenceb_> forgot to check the simple and easy part 2016-08-22T21:17:36 < Rob235> "it's a fairly tight hole" 2016-08-22T21:22:23 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T21:24:31 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184.175.46.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-22T21:27:14 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184.175.46.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T21:31:47 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjkGvD0UYAAnSyZ.jpg:large 2016-08-22T21:32:05 < Laurenceb_> speaking of terrifying things 2016-08-22T21:32:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-22T21:32:57 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T21:33:31 < Steffanx> Speaking of i dont give a shit. 2016-08-22T21:39:21 < Tectu> Rob235, jesus, just go and by sucke freakin props 2016-08-22T21:39:25 < Tectu> it's not the decision of your life 2016-08-22T21:39:48 < Rob235> haha i'm just bored and looking around 2016-08-22T21:44:57 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T21:46:38 < Tectu> stop being bored and do something useful 2016-08-22T21:46:49 < Steffanx> define useful 2016-08-22T21:47:54 < Tectu> fix some bugs or sumthin 2016-08-22T21:49:44 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-22T21:51:56 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T21:53:57 < Rob235> psh, my software has no bugs 2016-08-22T21:57:21 -!- tonyarkl1s [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T21:59:54 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-29-96.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-22T22:09:12 -!- elektirnis [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-22T22:14:32 < Tectu> http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/7505d64a54e0/46137a20adc9.jpg 2016-08-22T22:15:04 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-22T22:15:19 < englishman> found a community just for u Tectu https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace 2016-08-22T22:15:41 < Tectu> yeah, especially as Tectu mainly uses windows 2016-08-22T22:15:57 < Steffanx> better be at https://www.reddit.com/r/stroopwafels 2016-08-22T22:16:07 < Tectu> oh lol 2016-08-22T22:17:20 < Steffanx> Was going to buy some stroopwafels for Tectu and englishman, but decided i wasnt going to today. 2016-08-22T22:18:45 < englishman> im a patient man 2016-08-22T22:19:16 < Steffanx> bo 2016-08-22T22:19:17 < Steffanx> y 2016-08-22T22:19:23 < Tectu> much appreciated 2016-08-22T22:23:01 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T22:24:04 < Tectu> ReadError, ping 2016-08-22T22:24:14 < ReadError> dong 2016-08-22T22:24:15 < Steffanx> Tectu, pong 2016-08-22T22:24:22 < Steffanx> Im the man in the middle. 2016-08-22T22:26:07 < Tectu> thank you Steffanx 2016-08-22T22:26:21 < Tectu> ReadError, where is your cool bro, Dr. PhD. r2com? 2016-08-22T22:26:40 < Steffanx> Back to russia, to be the thing he fears most. 2016-08-22T22:28:07 < kakimir> is r2com jew? 2016-08-22T22:28:10 < Tectu> being butthurt? 2016-08-22T22:28:20 < Steffanx> Gay. 2016-08-22T22:28:26 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-22T22:28:27 < Steffanx> ask Rob235 :P 2016-08-22T22:30:40 < Tectu> need to hire jadew to fix my regex 2016-08-22T22:30:59 < Steffanx> Need to stop doign regex. 2016-08-22T22:31:03 < Tectu> no. 2016-08-22T22:31:11 < Laurenceb_> lul now I have an lsm9ds1 that works half the time 2016-08-22T22:31:13 < Steffanx> yes. 2016-08-22T22:31:22 < Laurenceb_> should have paid for pro assembly 2016-08-22T22:31:25 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, what is that? sounds like mems stuff 2016-08-22T22:31:37 < Laurenceb_> yes, imu 2016-08-22T22:31:54 < Laurenceb_> for my horsey board, I've made a ton of panels 2016-08-22T22:32:07 < Steffanx> Don't you have some friend in #rockoon/#highaltitude with proper equipment Laurenceb_? 2016-08-22T22:32:08 < Laurenceb_> like half of them have issues and wont boot :-S 2016-08-22T22:32:26 < Laurenceb_> Steffanx: yup but organising assembly is a faff 2016-08-22T22:32:35 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3L-Stainless-Steel-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-with-Heater-Cleaning-Commercial-Grade-/252486472853 getting this for lab 2016-08-22T22:32:46 < Laurenceb_> need all correct components organised etc 2016-08-22T22:32:48 < Steffanx> dont die kakimir 2016-08-22T22:33:22 < ReadError> i heard if you sit on one... 2016-08-22T22:33:26 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T22:33:38 < Laurenceb_> prob dry joint on address pin :-S 2016-08-22T22:33:48 < Laurenceb_> will fix tomorrow lol, 2 lazy 2016-08-22T22:34:10 < kakimir> don't die Steffanx 2016-08-22T22:34:17 < Steffanx> better browse imgur/reddit/4chan Laurenceb_ 2016-08-22T22:34:32 < Steffanx> Im not going to buy that kakimir. 2016-08-22T22:36:11 < kakimir> you mean boiling acetone in it and working with torch right next to is potentially dangerous? 2016-08-22T22:36:34 < Steffanx> Not in finland. In finland everything is icecold. 2016-08-22T22:36:43 < kakimir> soon it is 2016-08-22T22:38:26 < Tectu> what does "commercial grade" even mean? 2016-08-22T22:38:30 < Tectu> "industrial grade"? 2016-08-22T22:38:34 < Tectu> "military grade"? 2016-08-22T22:38:37 < Tectu> "troll grade"? 2016-08-22T22:42:06 < zyp> commercial grade is usually lower than industrial grade 2016-08-22T22:42:18 < zyp> what are we talking about anyway? 2016-08-22T22:42:54 < Tectu> kakimir e-bay link 2016-08-22T22:43:10 < Steffanx> "we" Tectu -_- 2016-08-22T22:43:14 < zyp> ah, a crystal destroyer 2016-08-22T22:43:29 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-22T22:43:29 < Tectu> so commercial grade is like 75% above home-grade but 25% below industrial grade? 2016-08-22T22:43:36 < Steffanx> 25.3 2016-08-22T22:43:54 < Tectu> can you please cite your sources, Mr. Steffanx ? 2016-08-22T22:44:29 < Rob235> http://pastebin.com/Cd1DyLuC 2016-08-22T22:44:42 < Steffanx> Rob235 is my source. 2016-08-22T22:46:03 < Steffanx> Rob, can you explain the 235? Is it related to this 23.5% ? 2016-08-22T22:46:11 < Steffanx> *25.3% 2016-08-22T22:46:22 < Tectu> he is commercial grade 2016-08-22T22:46:30 < Tectu> unlike rage2com 2016-08-22T22:46:39 < Steffanx> Made in soviet russia. 2016-08-22T22:47:06 < englishman> cool kakimir i got an ultradonic cleaner recently 2016-08-22T22:47:09 < englishman> works gr8 2016-08-22T22:47:23 < Rob235> everything is related 2016-08-22T22:47:31 < Tectu> are you related to me? 2016-08-22T22:47:32 < Steffanx> but can you fry chips with it englishman? 2016-08-22T22:47:46 < Rob235> we are all one 2016-08-22T22:47:49 < Steffanx> The one kakimir linked has a special basket for that 2016-08-22T22:47:53 < englishman> no but i drgreased my carburettor 2016-08-22T22:48:15 < englishman> you need the basket so the parts dont touch the walls 2016-08-22T22:48:18 < englishman> for some reason 2016-08-22T22:48:19 < englishman> i dono 2016-08-22T22:48:28 < zyp> I've heard it's a nice way to shake loose your crystals if they get stuck 2016-08-22T22:48:36 < englishman> and to ruin mems gyros! 2016-08-22T22:48:49 < Steffanx> No one touched my mems. 2016-08-22T22:48:57 < Steffanx> *touches 2016-08-22T22:49:04 < englishman> how long til the dutch innovate mems stroopwafels 2016-08-22T22:49:25 < Steffanx> they are in the shops already. 2016-08-22T22:51:14 < emeb> so very tiny! 2016-08-22T22:51:20 < emeb> not very satisfying 2016-08-22T22:51:39 < Steffanx> What is tiny emeb? 2016-08-22T22:51:49 < emeb> mems stroopwafels 2016-08-22T22:52:07 < Steffanx> oh lol. 2016-08-22T22:54:16 < Tectu> emeb, how's the wall? 2016-08-22T22:54:57 < emeb> Tectu: No teenage girls (or anyone else) since #2. 2016-08-22T22:55:19 < gxti> is that good or bad? 2016-08-22T22:55:21 < Steffanx> ask this guy next time Tectu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22FWGQZmSbM 2016-08-22T22:55:39 < emeb> gxti: that's good - I like my wall intact, not with cars in it. 2016-08-22T22:55:52 < Steffanx> or ask this girl Tectu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edP0L6LQzZE 2016-08-22T22:57:51 < emeb> Tectu: did a little fiddling with an ssd1331 OLED the other day -> https://github.com/emeb/f042_color_oled 2016-08-22T22:58:12 < Steffanx> .no pics? 2016-08-22T22:58:12 < emeb> those are nice looking displays and I love that they do line/rect/bitblt in HW. 2016-08-22T22:58:15 < Tectu> emeb, glad to hear that 2016-08-22T22:58:31 < Tectu> emeb, 8x8 sounds like a horrible font :D 2016-08-22T22:58:49 < emeb> Steffanx: here you go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl_-fJew3S0 2016-08-22T22:59:16 < emeb> Tectu: yeah, it's pretty ugly. Just something I scrounged on the webs long ago. 2016-08-22T22:59:35 < Steffanx> The noise intrigues. 2016-08-22T22:59:39 < Steffanx> me 2016-08-22T22:59:48 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-22T23:00:50 < emeb> heh - just whatever the phone mic picked up. 2016-08-22T23:01:22 < Tectu> just close your eyes, Steffanx 2016-08-22T23:01:25 < Tectu> ears* 2016-08-22T23:02:20 < emeb> that animation is done by using the HW area copy to scroll the whole display left by 1 pixel, then drawing new ones on the right. 2016-08-22T23:02:43 < Steffanx> nice :) 2016-08-22T23:10:58 < englishman> holy fuck 2016-08-22T23:11:03 < englishman> submitted DHL waybill 10 mins ago 2016-08-22T23:11:07 < englishman> the dude just showed up 2016-08-22T23:11:10 < englishman> such speediness wow 2016-08-22T23:11:25 < Steffanx> was it a drone? 2016-08-22T23:11:31 < englishman> no, a black person 2016-08-22T23:11:44 < Steffanx> Aren't you in the middle of nowhere? 2016-08-22T23:11:50 < englishman> not the office 2016-08-22T23:12:17 < Tectu> what's a waybill? 2016-08-22T23:12:25 < Tectu> "come and get ma package"? 2016-08-22T23:12:29 < englishman> like a list of shipments to pick up 2016-08-22T23:12:54 < Tectu> > was it a drone? > no, a black person 2016-08-22T23:13:15 < englishman> someone with a phantom took a pic of casa de englishman on saturday http://i.imgur.com/px0Tres.png 2016-08-22T23:13:37 < Tectu> lol, the weed shed 2016-08-22T23:14:01 < Steffanx> Something went wrong iwth the road 2016-08-22T23:14:18 < englishman> yeah its clearly some crappy opensores stitching software theyre using 2016-08-22T23:14:20 < Tectu> also with the snow 2016-08-22T23:15:14 < Steffanx> how much of that land is yours englishman? 2016-08-22T23:15:18 < englishman> none 2016-08-22T23:15:19 < englishman> i rent 2016-08-22T23:15:22 < Steffanx> awh 2016-08-22T23:15:51 < englishman> the englishman compound is still $100/month less than living in a 2bdrm in the city 2016-08-22T23:16:34 < Tectu> who needs two bedrooms anyway? 2016-08-22T23:16:36 < Tectu> one bedroom for you 2016-08-22T23:16:39 < Tectu> and the kitchen for $wife 2016-08-22T23:16:57 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-22T23:17:00 < Tectu> if your wife can walk from the kitchen to the bedroom, the chain is not short enough. 2016-08-22T23:17:14 < englishman> and now Tectu displays why he is single 2016-08-22T23:17:21 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-22T23:17:24 < englishman> next, on the ##stm32 nature channel 2016-08-22T23:17:41 < Tectu> also +1 for using +1 for using the verb "displays" 2016-08-22T23:17:53 < Steffanx> maybe Laurenceb_ can get david attenborough for us 2016-08-22T23:17:56 < gxti> "presents" also works here 2016-08-22T23:18:11 < Tectu> gxti I assume that englishman tried to make a pun because of ugfx 2016-08-22T23:18:18 < englishman> haha 2016-08-22T23:18:25 < englishman> no that would have been too good for me 2016-08-22T23:18:30 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-22T23:18:38 < gxti> ugfx is too irrelevant to be funny 2016-08-22T23:18:46 < Tectu> lol : 2016-08-22T23:18:47 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-22T23:19:14 < kakimir> englishman: how high they flew? 2016-08-22T23:19:27 < englishman> dont know 2016-08-22T23:19:30 < englishman> not that high 2016-08-22T23:19:34 < englishman> 150ft or so 2016-08-22T23:19:46 < kakimir> I mean lines are so straight and stuff? 2016-08-22T23:19:52 < kakimir> lens corrected pic? 2016-08-22T23:19:57 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-92-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-22T23:20:03 < englishman> it flew a pattern and stitched photos together 2016-08-22T23:20:03 < Steffanx> photo stitched kakimir. 2016-08-22T23:20:12 < kakimir> aa 2016-08-22T23:20:59 -!- Lerg_ [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T23:22:51 < kakimir> how scary it(for man) is when babby comes out? 2016-08-22T23:23:26 < Tectu> on a scale from 1 to 7, about 5 2016-08-22T23:23:39 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-22T23:24:01 < kakimir> what is above 5? 2016-08-22T23:24:05 < Tectu> kakimir, which one do you wanna be? http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/7505d64a54e0/d0638c367f0c.jpg 2016-08-22T23:24:28 < Tectu> so far only PeterM, karlp and you got/get the right to choose 2016-08-22T23:25:41 < kakimir> left to uncle laurence 2016-08-22T23:25:57 < kakimir> red shirt team 2016-08-22T23:26:09 < Steffanx> excellent choice. 2016-08-22T23:26:56 < Steffanx> its sad you how forgot the underscores for me Laurenceb_ 2016-08-22T23:27:29 < Tectu> doen: http://paste.ugfx.org/sores/7505d64a54e0/51ba1b1920af.jpg 2016-08-22T23:27:39 < Tectu> me -> mr? 2016-08-22T23:27:51 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, already gets enough attention 2016-08-22T23:30:30 < Rob235> I appear very aware of my surroundings 2016-08-22T23:31:03 < kakimir> how cool is that ballerina dude 2016-08-22T23:48:33 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d59.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-22T23:53:47 < Tectu> yeah, better check top left corner, kakimir 2016-08-22T23:53:58 < Tectu> Rob235, that's due to vaping 2016-08-22T23:55:26 < gxti> you are on a rock, flying through space 2016-08-22T23:58:50 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] --- Day changed Tue Aug 23 2016 2016-08-23T00:00:16 < Rob235> so are you 2016-08-23T00:01:36 < kakimir> talkin monkeys flying on an organic space ship through space 2016-08-23T00:03:10 -!- gjm [~gjm@unaffiliated/gjm] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-23T00:04:44 -!- gjm [~gjm@arturcieslak.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T00:04:54 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-23T00:10:02 < kakimir> I have done my dope 2016-08-23T00:22:51 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T00:23:00 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-23T00:42:10 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T00:43:01 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-23T00:43:44 < Laurenceb__> does anyone have an x-ray machine? 2016-08-23T00:44:14 < Laurenceb__> wondering if I should try one to fix my LSM9DS1 type issues 2016-08-23T01:11:05 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-23T01:16:53 < Lux> i wonder if that's a thing: http://www.solidenergysystems.com/ 2016-08-23T01:17:00 < Lux> seems too good to be true 2016-08-23T01:17:29 < Lux> 1200 Wh/L and 400 Wh/kg li-ion batteries 2016-08-23T01:18:12 < Laurenceb__> primary cells? 2016-08-23T01:20:04 < kakimir> they seem to have all kind of board members and about 2 scientists/engineers 2016-08-23T01:20:16 < kakimir> this must be legit 2016-08-23T01:20:28 < Lux> ya, seems like a scam 2016-08-23T01:21:30 < Laurenceb__> thats about 1.45Mj/Kg 2016-08-23T01:21:44 < Laurenceb__> Tesla are rumoured to have reached about 1.2 2016-08-23T01:21:52 < Laurenceb__> so sounds unlikely to be real 2016-08-23T01:22:31 < kakimir> rumoured to have reached when? 2016-08-23T01:22:35 < kakimir> 5years back? 2016-08-23T01:22:58 < Laurenceb__> no, v recently 2016-08-23T01:23:09 < Laurenceb__> they were at 1MJ a few years ago 2016-08-23T01:23:23 < Laurenceb__> when all the panasonic battery development went dark 2016-08-23T01:23:45 < kakimir> build nanotube flywheels Laurenceb__ 2016-08-23T01:24:17 < kakimir> nanotubes are real 2016-08-23T01:24:34 < kakimir> high energy batteries are not that much 2016-08-23T01:24:35 < Laurenceb__> never going to beat even 1MJ 2016-08-23T01:26:48 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-23T01:27:09 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f777d59.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-23T01:28:24 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woburn,_Massachusetts 2016-08-23T01:29:02 < kakimir> nice houses 2016-08-23T01:30:10 < kakimir> sunshine 2016-08-23T01:33:36 < kakimir> "The extraordinary mechanical performance qualifies these CNTs with high capacity for the storage of mechanical energy" says Wei. "They can store mechanical energy with a density as high as 1125 Wh per kg and a power density as high as 144 MW per kg." 2016-08-23T01:34:40 < kakimir> it would be interesting to crank 144MW out of 1kg flywheel 2016-08-23T01:35:02 < kakimir> http://www.nanowerk.com/spotlight/spotid=22055.php 2016-08-23T01:38:28 < kakimir> cnt flywheel disintegration would be interesting 2016-08-23T01:39:06 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T01:43:32 < Laurenceb__> what the hell 2016-08-23T01:44:12 < kakimir> didn't know that carbon fiber flywheel turns into dust and after that into red hot dust spinning around the case 2016-08-23T01:44:26 < Laurenceb__> this sounds v impossible 2016-08-23T01:44:57 < Laurenceb__> more chance of supercaps working 2016-08-23T01:48:57 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/756RcLD.jpg 2016-08-23T01:48:58 < Laurenceb__> or emdrive 2016-08-23T01:49:20 < Laurenceb__> oh god its current year man 2016-08-23T01:50:09 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-23T01:50:54 < kakimir> nanotubes are real 2016-08-23T01:51:02 < kakimir> emdrive is fantacy 2016-08-23T01:51:33 < kakimir> there is more chance of mind over materia 2016-08-23T01:51:37 < kakimir> than emdrive 2016-08-23T01:51:51 < kakimir> telekinesis I mean 2016-08-23T01:51:54 < Laurenceb__> emdrive is real 2016-08-23T01:52:04 < Laurenceb__> the internet said so 2016-08-23T01:53:19 < kakimir> you have telekinesis powers yet Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-23T02:06:32 < Laurenceb__> just need to read youtube tutorial on it 2016-08-23T02:07:16 < kakimir> I had psi force 2016-08-23T02:10:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d40564.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T02:14:15 -!- johntramp [~john@175.111.102.145] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-23T02:14:15 -!- johntramp [~john@unaffiliated/johntramp] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T02:16:39 < Laurenceb__> I'm learning about the flat earth at the creation university 2016-08-23T02:17:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d40564.access.ecotel.net] has 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Laurenceb__> there was 2016-08-23T03:05:11 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University 2016-08-23T03:05:41 < Laurenceb__> This article is part of a series about Donald Trump 2016-08-23T03:05:44 < Laurenceb__> lul that banner 2016-08-23T03:06:07 < Laurenceb__> impossible to separate from serious from troll 2016-08-23T03:06:17 < Laurenceb__> - from 2016-08-23T03:06:31 < Laurenceb__> https://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9556915&cid=52750367 2016-08-23T03:06:43 < Laurenceb__> its all GNU on pirated NT kernel 2016-08-23T03:06:49 < Laurenceb__> everything makes sense now 2016-08-23T03:07:29 < Laurenceb__> RMS sighted 2016-08-23T03:07:33 < Laurenceb__> the GUI sucks 2016-08-23T03:07:46 < Laurenceb__> retarded sidebar crap 2016-08-23T03:09:20 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEmKR8rPtR8 2016-08-23T03:10:58 < Laurenceb__> lolling hard 2016-08-23T03:11:28 < Thorn> attn Laurenceb__ https://www.google.com/search?q=mormon+porn 2016-08-23T03:11:47 < Laurenceb__> rule 34 bro 2016-08-23T03:12:25 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHCQA1EJiC0 2016-08-23T03:24:16 < Laurenceb__> b& 2016-08-23T03:27:05 < Laurenceb__> lulwut http://hackaday.com/2016/08/22/ask-hackaday-calling-all-68k-experts/ 2016-08-23T03:27:13 < Laurenceb__> trivial soldering is trivial 2016-08-23T03:43:50 < ReadError> one of those professional soldering competitions would be fun 2016-08-23T03:44:12 < ReadError> get sponsorships from JBC and kester 2016-08-23T03:46:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-23T03:52:36 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-23T03:54:42 -!- fenug_ [~R@157.97.120.3] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T03:54:47 -!- fenug_ [~R@157.97.120.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-23T03:58:35 < englishman> so thats the hack of the day, dude reflowed some chip and it doesnt work? 2016-08-23T03:59:00 -!- Laurenceb__ 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-23T13:02:18 < Tectu> sup stm32 lord? 2016-08-23T13:04:13 < ReadError> you mean shit lord? 2016-08-23T13:07:20 < Laurenceb__> I knew it https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9557387&cid=52754009 2016-08-23T13:07:33 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T13:11:43 < Tectu> why are you already up, ReadError 2016-08-23T13:19:34 < Tectu> how do I become as cool as crt? 2016-08-23T13:27:17 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T13:30:05 < Laurenceb__> take a degree course in trolling 2016-08-23T13:33:21 < Tectu> sometimes EE feels like trolling 2016-08-23T13:34:05 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.245] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T13:36:21 < PeterM> i remember trolling EE with conventional current vs electron flow shit all the time 2016-08-23T13:43:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-23T13:45:49 < Laurenceb__> time and frequency space toilets bro 2016-08-23T13:46:09 < Laurenceb__> Fourier TRANSform 2016-08-23T13:48:55 < Laurenceb__> I'm in jail dude 2016-08-23T14:16:44 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T14:18:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T14:21:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-122-12.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T14:30:18 < Laurenceb__> https://encyclopediadramatica.se/File:Imaginary_women.jpg 2016-08-23T14:33:13 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-23T14:36:44 < dongs> anyone know offhand if F401 can wake up from sleep/stop on any exti pin 2016-08-23T14:38:21 < jpa-> there is some low power state from which it can wake on any EXTI pin 2016-08-23T14:38:28 < jpa-> but i never remember the sleep/stop/standby names 2016-08-23T14:38:37 < dongs> WFE, according to manual, whatever that means tho 2016-08-23T14:38:45 < dongs> i'd rather have it quite stopped 2016-08-23T14:39:12 < jpa-> wfe/wfi is the instruction you use to enter whatever low power mode 2016-08-23T14:39:27 < dongs> thats the one it means then, WFE 2016-08-23T14:39:31 < dongs> so thats lower power than WFI right 2016-08-23T14:39:53 < Laurenceb__> on F1 you need to use WKUP for uber low power 2016-08-23T14:40:01 < Laurenceb__> thats how I run dataloggers 2016-08-23T14:40:05 < jpa-> no, WFI vs. WFE use equal amount of power 2016-08-23T14:40:10 < dongs> hm 2016-08-23T14:40:23 < dongs> i have 9 wakeup sources tho (buttons + accel int) 2016-08-23T14:40:23 < jpa-> the mode is selected with the register bits prior to executing the wfi/wfe 2016-08-23T14:40:27 < Laurenceb__> using EXTI would use more current 2016-08-23T14:40:37 < dongs> im using exti. 2016-08-23T14:40:50 < Laurenceb__> kiss your batteries goodbye 2016-08-23T14:40:51 < jpa-> only difference between wfe/wfi is that with WFE you can have other interrupts that do not wake you even if they happen 2016-08-23T14:41:29 < jpa-> (like, you do not have to deconfigure all your EXTI lines) 2016-08-23T14:42:07 < jpa-> Laurenceb__: AFAIK WKUP pin only saves power in the lowest power standby mode, which also loses all RAM contents? 2016-08-23T14:42:20 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-23T14:42:20 < dongs> yeah, dont need ram contents 2016-08-23T14:42:33 < Laurenceb__> jpa-: I just use if for on/off/wake on usb 2016-08-23T14:42:44 < jpa-> yep 2016-08-23T14:44:04 < dongs> so if I put my acc_int on PA0 and button on PB0, both will generate exti0 but pa0 will also have capability to wake up from dead sleep rite 2016-08-23T14:44:46 < jpa-> nah, you can only have EXTI on one 0-pin at a time 2016-08-23T14:44:51 < dongs> err? 2016-08-23T14:44:54 < jpa-> so if you configure it to PA0, PB0 will be ignored 2016-08-23T14:44:57 < dongs> hm 2016-08-23T14:45:06 < dongs> wat a scam 2016-08-23T14:47:42 < jpa-> multiple buttons is easy to solve by just using ADC 2016-08-23T14:50:22 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-23T14:51:48 < Laurenceb__> use external logic 2016-08-23T14:51:59 < Laurenceb__> or capacitor/resistor "logic" 2016-08-23T14:52:01 < jpa-> diodes! lots of them 2016-08-23T14:52:04 < Laurenceb__> thats how I did it# 2016-08-23T14:52:07 < jpa-> ah yeah, capacitors work also 2016-08-23T14:52:42 < Laurenceb__> you only need a pulse to wake 2016-08-23T14:53:03 < Laurenceb__> WKUP seem to lack filtering, nearby ESD can fire it 2016-08-23T14:54:29 < Laurenceb__> even with a 10nF cap to gnd I can still trigger it 2016-08-23T14:54:48 < Laurenceb__> I guess the parasitic inductance comes into play 2016-08-23T14:54:57 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T14:55:58 < Laurenceb__> not surprising consideirng this 2016-08-23T14:55:59 < Laurenceb__> http://www.emcesd.com/pdf/uesd99-w.pdf 2016-08-23T14:57:00 < Laurenceb__> I'm surprised things arent fried more regularly 2016-08-23T14:59:54 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-23T15:05:58 < Laurenceb__> I added a startup check routine to check for a valid reason for bootup 2016-08-23T15:08:54 < karlp> neat paper 2016-08-23T15:09:48 < emeryth> it's a scam to sell you more ESD gear 2016-08-23T15:13:06 < karlp> you should make jpa's em pen 2016-08-23T15:14:26 < ReadError> oh ya i remember that, hes got some cool stuff on his site 2016-08-23T15:14:41 < ReadError> essentiallyscrap.com i think 2016-08-23T15:14:48 < ReadError> no 2016-08-23T15:14:51 < ReadError> something like that 2016-08-23T15:15:04 < ReadError> maybe ya drop ly 2016-08-23T15:15:29 < ReadError> o lol 2016-08-23T15:15:57 < ReadError> http://essentialscrap.com/probe/ 2016-08-23T15:16:15 < jpa-> not that useful for ESD stuff though 2016-08-23T15:16:16 < ReadError> those are a good idea 2016-08-23T15:18:29 < Laurenceb__> nice probes 2016-08-23T15:18:56 < Laurenceb__> I'm guessing WKUP goes through some v basic logic 2016-08-23T15:19:11 < Laurenceb__> so stm32 transistors have got to be pretty fast 2016-08-23T15:19:14 < ReadError> kinda wanted to make one of those pcb holder / bed of nail / probe rail shits 2016-08-23T15:19:52 < Laurenceb__> the transients that cause the freak turn on evens are probably at frequencies close to 10Ghz 2016-08-23T15:20:56 < Laurenceb__> I didn't believe such high amplitude and frequency stuff could occur until I read that paper 2016-08-23T15:24:52 < Laurenceb__> but rubbing plastic enclosure on office chairs or combing hair next to it etc can v occasionally trigger WKUP 2016-08-23T15:26:31 < Laurenceb__> this makes me thing, maybe a passive ESD detecting radar could be a useful monitoring device 2016-08-23T15:27:08 < Laurenceb__> you probably emit a load of ultra wideband noise everywhere you go 2016-08-23T15:27:43 < Laurenceb__> could also really mess up ultra wideband comms 2016-08-23T15:31:59 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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2016-08-23T16:13:30 < dongs> anyway whatever im sure the stuff isnt gonna be needed 2016-08-23T16:19:15 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:20:34 < jpa-> dongs: generally yeah, you need to debounce in some way 2016-08-23T16:22:31 < dongs> right, but not gonna electrically bother 2016-08-23T16:22:59 < dongs> ill nigger up some noisy tactile shits to a -nucleo and fuck around with scanning them in systick 2016-08-23T16:26:06 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:27:04 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:30:23 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:32:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-23T16:39:30 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-23T16:43:34 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:43:34 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-23T16:43:49 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:44:59 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-23T16:46:01 -!- Rickta59_ [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-23T16:46:18 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:47:23 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec28157-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T16:49:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec2841b-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-23T17:00:36 -!- garfong [~garfong@pool-100-14-106-136.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T17:10:08 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T17:11:45 < Rob235> good morning 2016-08-23T17:15:46 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T17:15:56 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, ping 2016-08-23T17:21:44 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-23T17:21:46 < Laurenceb_> pong 2016-08-23T17:22:13 < Tectu> apparently it does OpenGL desktop acceleration 2016-08-23T17:22:24 < Tectu> it ==> Raspberry Pi 3 Model B with Raspbian 2016-08-23T17:22:33 < Tectu> at least it has the configuration option to enable/disable it 2016-08-23T17:22:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-122-12.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-23T17:22:58 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-08-23T17:23:06 < Laurenceb_> hmm actually useful then lol 2016-08-23T17:23:25 < Tectu> nah, it's slow as fuck 2016-08-23T17:23:32 < Tectu> I joined IRC because I got boring during waiting 2016-08-23T17:23:46 < Tectu> currently throwing out X and the DE 2016-08-23T17:23:54 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-08-23T17:24:01 < Tectu> probably going to smash FreeRTOS on it later 2016-08-23T17:24:33 < Laurenceb_> interesting 2016-08-23T17:24:42 < Laurenceb_> tbh I don't see the point 2016-08-23T17:25:03 < Laurenceb_> µC is so much easier to use unless you want something complex like web shit 2016-08-23T17:25:27 < Tectu> agreed 2016-08-23T17:25:28 < Laurenceb_> I gave up on using BBB for balloon stuff then made custom stm32 board to do almost the same job in half the time 2016-08-23T17:25:38 < Tectu> also better on the battery I assume 2016-08-23T17:25:41 < Laurenceb_> yes 2016-08-23T17:25:51 < Laurenceb_> BBB would have needed tons of board mods 2016-08-23T17:26:12 < Laurenceb_> I gave up after a while but managed to get lipo charging/power and soft shutdown working 2016-08-23T17:26:26 < Laurenceb_> RTC was still broken due to their piss poor schematic 2016-08-23T17:26:46 < Tectu> we currently have quite a few customers that are using µGFX on Linux because they need the Linux stuff for their communication aids. However, they don't want to (cannot) use a full blown X with desktop environment and "big" Qt/GTK apps. so they just use tiny gfx 2016-08-23T17:27:03 < Laurenceb_> lul 2016-08-23T17:27:10 < Tectu> yeah, maintaining something that runs linux is always a lot more work than maintaining uC solutions 2016-08-23T17:27:11 < Laurenceb_> was it ever designed to run efficiently on linux? 2016-08-23T17:27:52 < Tectu> what do you mean? It uses the native Linux API to get shit done where possible and it directly hooks up to the Linux framebuffer (and event system for touch stuff). 2016-08-23T17:27:55 < Laurenceb_> I'm guessing you dont have any acceleration? 2016-08-23T17:27:59 < Laurenceb_> right 2016-08-23T17:28:02 < Tectu> yes we do 2016-08-23T17:28:05 < Tectu> but it's all optional 2016-08-23T17:28:08 < Laurenceb_> due you have DMA2D support? 2016-08-23T17:28:12 < Laurenceb_> *do 2016-08-23T17:28:16 < Tectu> yes, but that is not linux :p 2016-08-23T17:28:18 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-08-23T17:28:28 < Laurenceb_> so linux is just data -> framebuffer? 2016-08-23T17:29:08 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-23T17:29:12 < Laurenceb_> I c 2016-08-23T17:29:39 < Laurenceb_> https://softserve.8ch.net/static/stim/b3ce7cda47b14291a270132d8e9af4a2.jpg 2016-08-23T17:29:40 < Tectu> we have a customer that did some magic with external GPU but that's platform specific crap so not part of the uGFX repo 2016-08-23T17:29:54 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-08-23T17:30:10 < Tectu> also, we have drivers for running on Linux with X or SDL, not just framebuffer: https://wiki.ugfx.io/index.php/Linux 2016-08-23T17:30:32 < Tectu> that's usually used to develop the µGFX crap on a desktop computer so you don't have to flash your target all the time. Also easier for debugging. 2016-08-23T17:30:47 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-08-23T17:32:36 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSwgawxXbFA 2016-08-23T17:32:50 < Tectu> best video on youtube 2016-08-23T17:33:19 < Laurenceb_> mr mumble man 2016-08-23T17:36:45 -!- garfong [~garfong@pool-100-14-106-136.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-23T17:38:16 < Tectu> installing vim on this thing took like 5 hours 2016-08-23T17:38:34 < Laurenceb_> ewww 2016-08-23T17:38:36 < Tectu> had to write down what I want to do on a post-it as I would have forgotten it by then 2016-08-23T17:38:42 < Laurenceb_> embedded lunix, not even once 2016-08-23T17:38:42 < Tectu> don't emac 2016-08-23T17:38:45 < Tectu> ! 2016-08-23T17:39:00 < Laurenceb_> good desktop os tho 2016-08-23T17:39:23 < Tectu> best 2016-08-23T17:39:26 < Tectu> dongs approved 2016-08-23T17:40:26 < Laurenceb_> best for making him rage 2016-08-23T17:40:59 < Tectu> dongs never rages 2016-08-23T17:46:35 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T17:48:02 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-23T19:21:48 < Lux> any ideas what might be happening when the rom bootloader is stuck in a reset loop ? 2016-08-23T19:32:12 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T19:37:29 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-23T19:37:48 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T19:43:39 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T19:47:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T19:48:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-23T19:51:28 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RjhsY06mOI 2016-08-23T19:53:03 < Rob235> hmm, hex is 3.36 kg, I think I was expecting less 2016-08-23T20:01:54 < Tectu> stop posting crap, Laurenceb_ 2016-08-23T20:02:08 < Tectu> Rob235, LEDs aren't weightless :p 2016-08-23T20:02:16 < Rob235> haha 2016-08-23T20:02:18 < Rob235> actually thats pretty low 2016-08-23T20:02:25 < Rob235> compared to a quick google search for my frame 2016-08-23T20:02:26 < Tectu> yeah, wasn't that serious 2016-08-23T20:02:31 < Rob235> 3.5-4kg average 2016-08-23T20:02:50 < Tectu> better take an STM32 with a lower pin count package 2016-08-23T20:02:54 < Tectu> saves mass 2016-08-23T20:04:43 < Rob235> yea, I'll get 0.0142 seconds longer flight time 2016-08-23T20:05:47 < Tectu> worth it 2016-08-23T20:06:03 < Tectu> also, more like 0.0235 2016-08-23T20:11:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T20:35:53 < Rob235> http://imgur.com/fMLyXri 2016-08-23T20:36:05 < Rob235> let's see how accurate it is (I picked parts as close as possible) 2016-08-23T20:43:22 < Laurenceb_> looks good http://imgur.com/a/AodJj 2016-08-23T20:56:36 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: at least she's giving you fair warning 2016-08-23T20:56:58 < Steffanx> All Laurenceb_ thinks: Im into crazy. 2016-08-23T21:07:17 < zyp> let's not judge him 2016-08-23T21:11:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-23T21:18:01 < gxti> why not 2016-08-23T21:22:39 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184.175.46.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-23T21:23:38 -!- LeelooMinai [~quassel@184.175.46.197] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T21:25:32 < zyp> gxti, same reason we're not judging you for 2016-08-23T21:36:33 < gxti> maybe you should 2016-08-23T21:45:46 < Laurenceb_> ##stm32: judgement day 2016-08-23T21:46:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-92-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T21:52:28 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T22:02:47 -!- i8086 [~bogjumper@96-94-103-82-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-23T22:02:49 < i8086> http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1330326& 2016-08-23T22:02:52 < i8086> READ THIS dongs 2016-08-23T22:04:55 -!- 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https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-3-specs-benchmarks/ 2016-08-23T23:09:55 < Tectu> it is just slow :) 2016-08-23T23:09:58 < zyp> ah 2016-08-23T23:10:32 < Tectu> afaik linking is always single-core anyway, right? 2016-08-23T23:11:22 < zyp> yes 2016-08-23T23:12:31 < zyp> and since there's usually one output binary, taking all the objects, there's usually nothing to run next to it to keep the other three cores occupied 2016-08-23T23:20:09 < Tectu> :< 2016-08-23T23:37:21 < kakimir> pink floyd. 2016-08-23T23:39:19 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVhNCTH8pDs 2016-08-23T23:39:57 < englishman> is kakimir discovering classic rocks 2016-08-23T23:40:10 < kakimir> cabin night 2016-08-23T23:40:18 < kakimir> beer and cigarettes 2016-08-23T23:40:22 < kakimir> sauna 2016-08-23T23:40:35 < englishman> it would not be a finnish party without a sauna 2016-08-23T23:40:54 < kakimir> but where are my chicks? 2016-08-23T23:41:51 < Tectu> he said he's going to relax a bit 2016-08-23T23:43:27 < Steffanx> Finnishlanders dont mind if the chicks are lads. 2016-08-23T23:43:32 < englishman> everything after animals is crap 2016-08-23T23:43:34 < Steffanx> Ask jpa- 2016-08-23T23:43:53 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-23T23:52:36 < Tectu> englishman, 2016-08-23T23:52:43 < englishman> Tectu, 2016-08-23T23:52:56 < Tectu> what? 2016-08-23T23:53:15 < englishman> ¿ʇɐɥʍ 2016-08-23T23:55:25 < Thorn> suddenly Knuth on Numberphile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPn2AdMH7UQ 2016-08-23T23:56:02 < Thorn> talking about writing some crap that is not TAOCP 2016-08-23T23:58:21 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Wed Aug 24 2016 2016-08-24T00:05:15 < Tectu> suddently Thorn alive in ##stm32 2016-08-24T00:13:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-24T00:20:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-24T00:22:44 -!- 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2016-08-24T02:36:48 < jadew> code editor plugin: https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/688415/11615565/10f16456-9c65-11e5-8af4-265f01fc83a0.gif 2016-08-24T02:36:56 < Laurenceb__> hmm I dont know what to look for 2016-08-24T02:37:07 < Laurenceb__> clear sky here, some weird stuff but could be clouds 2016-08-24T02:44:51 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-24T02:45:10 < Laurenceb__> found crt at mealtimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZRCt4v4G_I 2016-08-24T02:48:08 < Laurenceb__> bulb? 2016-08-24T02:52:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-24T02:54:11 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-24T02:54:17 < Laurenceb__> so much autotuned shit 2016-08-24T02:54:32 * Laurenceb__ is listening to squarepusher and BOC 2016-08-24T03:01:10 < Laurenceb__> I thought an usher was an official at a funeral 2016-08-24T03:08:24 < Laurenceb__> I will always call him MC Funeral now 2016-08-24T03:08:32 < Laurenceb__> its synonymous 2016-08-24T03:08:57 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-24T03:10:08 < dongs> Another mistake happened more recently, where it was discovered that the pin that had been wired up to the "Chip Select" line on a SPI display happened to be connected to the one GPIO on the CPU that was Input-Only. 2016-08-24T03:10:12 < dongs> haha 2016-08-24T03:10:14 < dongs> thats what fags get for using garbage like Kinetis 2016-08-24T03:10:28 < dongs> fucking shitscale 2016-08-24T03:11:24 < Laurenceb__> http://hackaday.com/2016/08/23/all-about-biosignals/ 2016-08-24T03:11:30 < Laurenceb__> I would monitor her signals 2016-08-24T03:11:42 < dongs> looks more autistic than ohsix 2016-08-24T03:11:56 < dongs> back to work, bbl 2016-08-24T03:12:29 < Laurenceb__> thats what we call drive by shitposting 2016-08-24T03:14:17 < Laurenceb__> interesting gui 2016-08-24T03:14:24 < Laurenceb__> I wonder what its written in 2016-08-24T03:15:08 < Laurenceb__> tl;dr their setup is shit 2016-08-24T03:15:24 < Laurenceb__> motion artefacts bigger than the moon 2016-08-24T03:16:29 < Laurenceb__> "when you are moving the leads" RAGE MODE 2016-08-24T03:16:54 < Laurenceb__> thats cuz you have shit leads with poorly chosen insulation that generates static 2016-08-24T03:17:15 < Laurenceb__> time to be autistic in the comments 2016-08-24T03:17:31 < Laurenceb__> there is a reason I just spent about a week sourcing specialist cables for my horse shit 2016-08-24T03:17:36 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-24T03:18:16 < Laurenceb__> also I now have gel electrodes with virtually no motion artefact 2016-08-24T03:19:09 < Laurenceb__> that is one disadvantage :P 2016-08-24T03:22:17 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T03:23:40 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-24T03:23:50 < Laurenceb__> I'm currently designing a gas chamber for cats 2016-08-24T03:25:16 < Laurenceb__> I have like 4 stray cats living in garden 2016-08-24T03:25:22 < Laurenceb__> killing wildlife and shit 2016-08-24T03:25:34 < Laurenceb__> time for a genocide 2016-08-24T03:25:57 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-24T03:26:21 < Laurenceb__> worried if I take them to vet one will be chipped and there will be a shitstorm 2016-08-24T03:27:03 < Laurenceb__> I'm thinking "air" duster and cardboard box 2016-08-24T03:27:10 < Laurenceb__> should work quite well in theory 2016-08-24T03:27:42 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-08-24T03:27:47 < zyp> sounds overcomplicated 2016-08-24T03:28:05 < zyp> if you're going to kill them anyway, why not just hit them in the head with something? 2016-08-24T03:28:31 < zyp> or drown them 2016-08-24T03:29:08 < Laurenceb__> drown them wtf 2016-08-24T03:29:18 < Laurenceb__> massively cruel 2016-08-24T03:29:41 < Laurenceb__> you can have cats put down for free in UK, but only if you own them 2016-08-24T03:30:34 < Laurenceb__> aha I found their gui 2016-08-24T03:30:35 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/berndporr/comedirecord 2016-08-24T03:31:26 < Laurenceb__> never come across COMEDI before, sounds fun 2016-08-24T03:31:33 < zyp> Laurenceb__, idk, I just get the impression that that's the common ways 2016-08-24T03:32:23 < zyp> is gassing them any better than drowning them? either way kills by asphyxiation 2016-08-24T03:32:43 < zyp> well, depending on the gas 2016-08-24T03:32:51 < Laurenceb__> asphyxiation with inert gas causes loss of consciousness with no pain 2016-08-24T03:33:06 < Laurenceb__> I should know, nearly done it myself with N2 :-S 2016-08-24T03:33:13 < zyp> haha 2016-08-24T03:33:32 < zyp> also, kinda surprised you're the kind of guy to care about cruelty 2016-08-24T03:33:36 < Laurenceb__> lulz 2016-08-24T03:33:50 < Laurenceb__> protip: use an oxygen meter in labs with lots of LN2 2016-08-24T03:34:23 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T03:34:26 < Laurenceb__> and more than one person, get out _immediatly_ if you feel light header 2016-08-24T03:34:31 < Laurenceb__> luckily I knew what to do 2016-08-24T03:37:14 < zyp> «well, at least by drowning, you don't have to die a jew» 2016-08-24T03:38:30 < Laurenceb__> top bantz 2016-08-24T03:38:34 < Laurenceb__> crt: no shelter places 2016-08-24T03:38:41 < Laurenceb__> thats what you are supposed to do 2016-08-24T03:39:12 < Laurenceb__> if I lie and say they are mine then try to have them put down, and scanner reveals phone number for someone who owned one about 4 years ago... 2016-08-24T03:39:19 < Laurenceb__> there would be a shitstorm 2016-08-24T03:39:30 < Laurenceb__> anyway 2016-08-24T03:39:36 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-24T03:39:39 * Laurenceb__ zzz 2016-08-24T03:39:48 < englishman> feel free to follow along on my bbq lads http://betamax.airdtf.com:9001/ 2016-08-24T03:40:24 < zyp> Laurenceb__, can't you just get a scanner and check them for chips yourself first? 2016-08-24T03:40:30 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-24T03:40:35 < englishman> will be roasting 16.5lb = 7.5kg of sirloin http://i.imgur.com/XRRV2aO.jpg 2016-08-24T03:41:16 < zyp> haha 2016-08-24T03:42:48 < zyp> now just needs usable units 2016-08-24T03:43:18 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T03:43:25 < englishman> sorry but the greatest cooking is done in °F 2016-08-24T03:45:00 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-24T03:47:57 < englishman> even with your snarkiness crt you can still come over and help eat it. 2016-08-24T03:50:56 < Thorn> so a producer / studio owner now thinks I can design synths and is very excited about the opportunities (lol) 2016-08-24T03:52:58 < englishman> crt: quebce 2016-08-24T04:13:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T04:24:33 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T04:41:23 -!- fenugrec_ 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-24T10:44:59 < englishman> 7.5hr into cook, still cookin 2016-08-24T10:45:38 < englishman> it has surrounded the house 2016-08-24T10:45:44 < englishman> the cats mouths have been watering 2016-08-24T10:46:07 < englishman> lil dongs has retired to his hamburger 2016-08-24T10:49:06 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.5] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T10:49:43 < englishman> no really, i got him a hamburger from banggood when he was small http://i.imgur.com/lng7QpN.jpg 2016-08-24T10:55:49 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-141-51.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T10:58:46 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-175-125.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-24T11:03:33 < Steffanx> Dont care crt. 2016-08-24T11:08:47 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774858.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-24T11:12:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-24T11:21:25 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m37-196-104-246.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T11:29:48 < Steffanx> Work mr crt. 2016-08-24T11:31:06 < Steffanx> Not really a choice, is it? 2016-08-24T11:33:03 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-24T11:35:12 < ReadMobl> tectu quit? 2016-08-24T11:37:55 < ReadMobl> then why would u be like hes coming? 2016-08-24T11:38:10 < ReadMobl> if hes still here, im my heart 2016-08-24T11:39:28 < ReadMobl> dongs: 2016-08-24T11:39:31 < ReadMobl> will you battle weev 2016-08-24T11:39:40 < ReadMobl> on the LRH 2016-08-24T11:39:43 < ReadMobl> he wont fight l0de 2016-08-24T11:40:58 < ReadMobl> ya if someone wrote that irccloud botter script 2016-08-24T11:41:06 < ReadMobl> you could wreck havoc 2016-08-24T11:41:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.150.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-24T11:43:16 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T11:43:42 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28utyshsdg75svp.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T11:44:00 < ReadMobl> cant believe weev said he has NO hebrew in him 2016-08-24T11:44:25 < ReadMobl> think hes just trying to impress his 'crowd' or w/e 2016-08-24T11:44:50 < ReadMobl> that and the 2 dont mix very well i guess 2016-08-24T11:46:56 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28utyshsdg75svp.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-24T11:57:13 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T12:06:06 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-141-51.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-24T12:09:50 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-24T12:14:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.97] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T12:39:29 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T12:47:07 < Laurenceb__> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/055032139190009M 2016-08-24T12:47:08 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-24T12:48:30 < Laurenceb__> how do I spelling 2016-08-24T12:58:17 < Laurenceb__> US Patent us6506148 b2 2016-08-24T12:59:11 < Laurenceb__> next level of irc trolling 2016-08-24T12:59:13 < Laurenceb__> bbl 2016-08-24T13:04:19 < ReadMobl> in b4ban 2016-08-24T13:04:21 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-24T13:10:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-141.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T13:22:42 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-24T13:24:06 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-24T14:02:40 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-24T14:04:12 * ReadError scratches head 2016-08-24T14:12:18 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-24T14:12:18 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T14:13:01 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T14:20:42 < Laurenceb_> holy shit this is epin http://i.imgur.com/lng7QpN.jpg 2016-08-24T14:21:03 < Laurenceb_> prison showers cats 2016-08-24T14:27:59 < karlp> epic? it's two fucking cats in a basket. 2016-08-24T14:33:21 < Laurenceb_> cat sexy tiem 2016-08-24T14:35:09 < Steffanx> Poor guy. 2016-08-24T14:35:50 < Steffanx> Are you born like this or did the internet do this to you laurenceb_? 2016-08-24T14:36:12 < Laurenceb_> dunno, need a control experiment 2016-08-24T14:50:17 < dongs> RIP crt https://www.rt.com/news/356975-british-woman-stabbed-australia/ 2016-08-24T14:50:39 < Steffanx> crt left. 2016-08-24T14:50:51 < dongs> that wasnt an operator-induced forcepart? 2016-08-24T14:51:29 < Steffanx> Not really. He was smarter than o6. 2016-08-24T14:52:36 < Steffanx> He figured out he was a bit noisy. 2016-08-24T14:54:00 < dongs> let's stm32 2016-08-24T14:54:38 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-83.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T14:58:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-24T15:04:28 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T15:04:45 < skroon> is it possible to prevent people from downloading flash/firmware out of stm32 mcu's? 2016-08-24T15:05:26 < jpa-> to an extent 2016-08-24T15:05:28 < zyp> yes 2016-08-24T15:05:44 < zyp> you can protect against reading, but not erase 2016-08-24T15:05:55 < skroon> where can I read more on this subject? i'm lacking the knowledge, on how this is called :) 2016-08-24T15:05:58 < zyp> so nothing stops people from erasing your firmware and putting in their own 2016-08-24T15:06:18 < skroon> zyp: oke thanks, erasing is fine for me, it's more about being able to disassemble my code 2016-08-24T15:06:43 < dongs> those who want to disassemble it will find a way 2016-08-24T15:06:52 < zyp> what exactly are you trying to protect against? 2016-08-24T15:06:58 < Palsson> I have my stm32 connected to a bluetooth module using USART, but the TX line from the MCU only seems to work properly when i ALSO connect my FTDI breakout board to it. 2016-08-24T15:06:58 < Palsson> Any ideas why? 2016-08-24T15:07:01 < jpa-> zyp: level 2 is permanent i think 2016-08-24T15:07:14 < skroon> dongs: I know, but let's say the majority ;-) 2016-08-24T15:07:30 < jpa-> Palsson: maybe you've configured it as open collector? 2016-08-24T15:07:39 < skroon> zyp: only IP protection basically, so it's not super easy to steal the firmware and load it into your own boards 2016-08-24T15:09:02 < dongs> whats so special about your boards 2016-08-24T15:09:25 < dongs> anywa,y AN3429 2016-08-24T15:09:30 < dongs> is wat you wanna read i geuss 2016-08-24T15:09:42 < Palsson> jpa- http://hastebin.com/bilafevuwi.avrasm 2016-08-24T15:09:46 < jpa-> also "STM32 flash programming manual" or similar 2016-08-24T15:10:03 < jpa-> Palsson: the gpio config 2016-08-24T15:10:11 < dongs> or wait no 2016-08-24T15:10:12 < dongs> waht the fuck is taht 2016-08-24T15:10:36 < dongs> looks like tehy have a flash protection appnote for each Fx series 2016-08-24T15:11:40 < zyp> dongs, AN3429 seems to be about using MPU to isolate user code from system code 2016-08-24T15:11:57 < dongs> nah its some weird shit 2016-08-24T15:11:58 < zyp> which is only a concern if you allow user code on the chip at all 2016-08-24T15:12:08 < dongs> sticking ~proprietary~ code in a linker section/sector and ROP'ing just it 2016-08-24T15:12:20 < zyp> exactly 2016-08-24T15:12:33 < zyp> so it can't be accessed by user code running on the same chip 2016-08-24T15:15:10 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T15:15:55 < Steffanx> I always have to link to this blog where someone read out the protected nordic semi nrf firmware. 2016-08-24T15:16:28 < Steffanx> When the rop is mentioned here. 2016-08-24T15:16:51 < Steffanx> But no boolmark available. 2016-08-24T15:17:08 < Steffanx> Bool* 2016-08-24T15:17:11 < Steffanx> Book 2016-08-24T15:21:23 < Lux> I just had a weird bug... somehow the rom bootloader didn't manage to get HSE running, but the user code had zero issues with it 2016-08-24T15:22:04 < Lux> using the system_stm32f4xx.c for startup code 2016-08-24T15:22:06 < Palsson> jpa- okey, let me check the gpio config 2016-08-24T15:22:16 < Steffanx> It all boiled down to finding a load instruction in the protected area which they abused to read out thr protected area. 2016-08-24T15:22:40 < Steffanx> Using a debugger 2016-08-24T15:23:47 < Steffanx> But im not sure if this also works for STM32 2016-08-24T15:24:20 < Steffanx> But i guess it would 2016-08-24T15:25:01 < Palsson> jpa- http://hastebin.com/upexaculir.coffee 2016-08-24T15:25:25 < Palsson> How do i know if it is open collector? 2016-08-24T15:26:32 < jpa-> check the gpio registers with debugger and compare against reference manual 2016-08-24T15:26:50 < jpa-> but that atleast tries to config as push-pull 2016-08-24T15:27:36 < Laurenceb> coming to highaltitude soon 2016-08-24T15:27:37 < Laurenceb> http://miltonwainwright.com/panspermia-life-in-space/ 2016-08-24T15:29:43 < Palsson> And push-pull should be what i want it to be, right? 2016-08-24T15:37:05 < karlp> Steffanx: oh yeah, I remember reading that report. pretty neat 2016-08-24T15:37:13 < karlp> no, I don't have the link either 2016-08-24T15:37:39 < karlp> http://blog.includesecurity.com/2015/11/NordicSemi-ARM-SoC-Firmware-dumping-technique.html 2016-08-24T15:37:42 < karlp> maybe I do... 2016-08-24T15:38:06 < Steffanx> Yes that. 2016-08-24T15:38:29 < karlp> uses scripting of oocd's telnet interface because oocd's remote api interface is undocumented and awkward 2016-08-24T15:38:51 < Steffanx> Heh. Ok 2016-08-24T15:52:00 < zyp> dongs, pink leds very kawaii 2016-08-24T15:54:39 -!- Steffann [uid181611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xucmholpwxzjrwes] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T15:56:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T15:58:09 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T15:58:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-24T16:01:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T16:06:12 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-24T16:13:02 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T16:14:10 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-24T16:20:46 < Steffann> 2016-08-24T16:21:52 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-24T16:23:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T16:26:31 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T16:27:32 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-24T16:37:49 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:00:50 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:03:19 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-24T17:06:12 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-24T17:06:48 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:08:56 < Tectu> people of ##stm32, I have come to join you once again! Together we shall talk about many serious things and spread nothing but wisdom! 2016-08-24T17:09:06 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:11:33 < Laurenceb> I'm here to rage about ads1298 2016-08-24T17:11:49 < Laurenceb> like why do all registers go to 0x00 after power on 2016-08-24T17:11:55 < Laurenceb> rather than reset values 2016-08-24T17:18:39 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-24T17:20:53 < Tectu> is this for the horse stuff? 2016-08-24T17:21:14 < zyp> no, its for cat gas chamber 2016-08-24T17:24:52 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-24T17:24:59 < Laurenceb> datasheet seems to lie 2016-08-24T17:25:08 < Laurenceb> nvm fixable with some haxoring 2016-08-24T17:27:50 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:36:33 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/newsplus/src/1472017016036.png 2016-08-24T17:38:06 < Laurenceb> https://sli.mg/Hk8bT9 2016-08-24T17:41:09 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has left ##stm32 ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 2016-08-24T17:45:32 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-24T17:46:47 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:48:47 < gxti> that was close. i almost chcked on a Laurenceb link at work. 2016-08-24T17:48:53 < gxti> clicked* wtf 2016-08-24T17:49:00 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:49:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T17:49:51 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-24T17:57:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-24T18:05:14 < jpa-> gxti: they weren't particularly bad this time, just amazingly boring 2016-08-24T18:14:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-24T18:19:28 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-141.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-24T18:32:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T18:41:16 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-24T18:52:13 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@m37-196-104-246.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-24T18:54:43 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-24T18:56:30 < Laurenceb> meanwhile in china http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f16_1472049396 2016-08-24T18:57:32 < Laurenceb> omg 1:13 2016-08-24T19:08:42 < owl-v-> so many raspbian states :) 2016-08-24T19:12:32 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T19:17:24 < owl-v-> couple breaker ? 2016-08-24T19:19:31 < Laurenceb> chinese guy had his girl stolen by americans 2016-08-24T19:20:47 < zyp> I think I saw that a few months ago, IIRC one of the guys are david bond 2016-08-24T19:23:46 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T19:39:17 < Steffanx> ReadError, you use a mac right? Or wasn't that you? 2016-08-24T19:39:29 < Steffanx> nevermind i guess 2016-08-24T19:42:34 < karlp> quirky gcc find of the days, __COUNTER__ 2016-08-24T19:43:38 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hjklfpjlfekgpyok] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T19:47:21 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [] 2016-08-24T19:47:35 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2016-08-24T19:49:28 -!- Steffanx [uid181611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xucmholpwxzjrwes] has quit [Quit: Updating details, brb] 2016-08-24T19:49:41 -!- Steffanx [uid181611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alqzuiimjyofajjh] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T19:53:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-92-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T19:55:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T20:01:09 -!- Steffann [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T20:02:53 -!- Steffanx [uid181611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-alqzuiimjyofajjh] has quit [] 2016-08-24T20:02:58 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2016-08-24T20:02:59 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.147.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-24T20:03:44 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.43] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T20:04:42 < Tectu> ReadError does hackintosh 2016-08-24T20:04:48 < Tectu> or did 2016-08-24T20:04:49 < Tectu> or whatever 2016-08-24T20:04:52 < Tectu> zyp is Mr. mac 2016-08-24T20:04:59 < Steffanx> no also hackintosh 2016-08-24T20:05:03 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-24T20:05:03 < Tectu> mac 2016-08-24T20:05:08 < Steffanx> no. 2016-08-24T20:05:32 < zyp> hmm? 2016-08-24T20:05:33 < Steffanx> no also hackintosh 2016-08-24T20:05:33 < Tectu> Mac OS 2016-08-24T20:05:37 < Tectu> mac 2016-08-24T20:05:50 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] by ChanServ 2016-08-24T20:05:50 < Steffanx> no also hackintosh 2016-08-24T20:08:44 < zyp> Steffanx, idk, I own a couple of genuine macs 2016-08-24T20:08:54 < Steffanx> but you still use them? 2016-08-24T20:09:19 < zyp> I used my macbook as recently as yesterday 2016-08-24T20:09:24 < Steffanx> :) 2016-08-24T20:09:46 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-24T20:09:49 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q tectu!*@*] by Tectu 2016-08-24T20:09:52 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Tectu] by ChanServ 2016-08-24T20:09:54 < kakimir> burned my 5.8ghz av transmitter 2016-08-24T20:09:58 < Steffanx> but it's not your main machine 2016-08-24T20:10:03 < kakimir> such a piece of crap 2016-08-24T20:10:13 < zyp> Steffanx, it is when I'm travelling 2016-08-24T20:10:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec28157-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-24T20:10:20 < kakimir> gave it 22volts and regulator exploded instantly 2016-08-24T20:11:05 < Steffanx> dont do that kakimir 2016-08-24T20:11:20 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] by ChanServ 2016-08-24T20:11:36 < kakimir> it said 7-24volts 2016-08-24T20:12:07 < kakimir> obiviosly device powered by sot23-6 pack regulator I should have seen that 2016-08-24T20:12:10 < Tectu> reminds me of the girl that said she was 21 but really wasn't, as it turned out 2016-08-24T20:12:26 < Laurenceb> she was 7? 2016-08-24T20:12:27 < Steffanx> Tectu in jail. 2016-08-24T20:12:28 < zyp> was she a cop? 2016-08-24T20:13:12 < Tectu> na 2016-08-24T20:13:14 < Steffanx> she was thai male. 2016-08-24T20:13:27 < Laurenceb> anyone here any good with bluetooth on linux? 2016-08-24T20:13:35 < Tectu> dongs comes to mind 2016-08-24T20:13:40 < Laurenceb> I'm not able to connect to a device with terminal 2016-08-24T20:13:43 < Steffanx> lunix aint good with bluetooth at lunix. 2016-08-24T20:13:47 < Laurenceb> rfcomm 2016-08-24T20:13:48 < Laurenceb> rfcomm13: 00:06:66:80:95:37 channel 1 closed 2016-08-24T20:13:51 < Tectu> r2com? 2016-08-24T20:14:01 < Laurenceb> probably to do with the closed bit? 2016-08-24T20:14:35 < Steffanx> probably. 2016-08-24T20:14:38 < Laurenceb> perplexing, never had this issue before 2016-08-24T20:14:50 < Laurenceb> I wonder what it means 2016-08-24T20:16:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T20:20:56 < Laurenceb> I _think_ the device is paired ok 2016-08-24T20:22:02 < Laurenceb> sudo cat /dev/rfcomm13 2016-08-24T20:22:03 < Laurenceb> cat: /dev/rfcomm13: Connection refused 2016-08-24T20:22:06 < Laurenceb> mysterious 2016-08-24T20:22:50 < Tectu> there's your problem 2016-08-24T20:22:52 < Tectu> you have to use this: 2016-08-24T20:22:54 < Steffanx> Tried to reboot? 2016-08-24T20:22:56 < Tectu> sudo horse /dev/rfcomm13 2016-08-24T20:23:01 < Tectu> don't use cat if you work on horse stuff. 2016-08-24T20:23:34 < Steffanx> alias horse="cat" 2016-08-24T20:25:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T20:32:52 < karlp> pony is less letters to type, and has the benefit of including the word pony in it... 2016-08-24T20:33:04 < karlp> ... if you're going to be doing silly things like aliasing cat. 2016-08-24T20:37:51 < ds2> aliases won't work through sudo 2016-08-24T20:38:01 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T20:38:11 < Rob235> so I'm pretty stupid as you all know... 2016-08-24T20:38:22 < Steffanx> Yes.. 2016-08-24T20:38:42 < Rob235> I realized my lipo wasn't connected to the battery monitor and one cell got to 2.6v 2016-08-24T20:38:44 < Rob235> is it fucked? 2016-08-24T20:39:47 < Rob235> it feels a tiny bit puffy 2016-08-24T20:39:59 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-24T20:40:45 < Laurenceb> might survive 2016-08-24T20:41:20 < Rob235> how do I know? 2016-08-24T20:41:35 < Rob235> it was charging fine (I put it on for a sec to check cell voltage) 2016-08-24T20:41:46 < Rob235> but the puffiness scares me 2016-08-24T20:42:03 < Tectu> do you have children? 2016-08-24T20:42:09 < gjm> or plans? 2016-08-24T20:42:11 < gjm> :> 2016-08-24T20:42:28 < Rob235> hah 2016-08-24T20:42:36 < Rob235> these batteries are so damn expensive too 2016-08-24T20:42:41 < Laurenceb> damn I hate bluetooth 2016-08-24T20:42:53 < Laurenceb> hatred pure and simple 2016-08-24T20:42:57 < Rob235> you still fucking with bt? 2016-08-24T20:43:03 < Steffanx> pebkac. 2016-08-24T20:43:22 < Laurenceb> Rob235L yes 2016-08-24T20:43:55 < Tectu> Rob235, question was somewhat serious 2016-08-24T20:44:18 < Rob235> no i donot 2016-08-24T20:44:29 < Laurenceb> but I literally dont have the first clue what I'm doing 2016-08-24T20:44:39 < Laurenceb> all I know is "error" 2016-08-24T20:44:39 < Tectu> Rob235, then I can't help, sorry 2016-08-24T20:44:49 < Rob235> I'm curious about bt, might try messing with it, I have a module or two around here somewhere 2016-08-24T20:45:05 < ds2> Laurenceb: what are the 2 ends you are using? 2016-08-24T20:45:14 < ds2> BT isn't that bad once you get used to it 2016-08-24T20:45:22 < Laurenceb> pc end is a usb dongle 2016-08-24T20:45:28 < ds2> what OS? 2016-08-24T20:45:33 < Laurenceb> other end is an rn-42 module 2016-08-24T20:45:37 < Laurenceb> OS is ubuntu linux 2016-08-24T20:45:49 < ds2> Okay. is that module paired? 2016-08-24T20:46:09 < ds2> IIRC, the RN47 should work as a SPP 2016-08-24T20:46:41 < Laurenceb> yes module is paired 2016-08-24T20:47:00 < ds2> what are you passing to rfcomm? 2016-08-24T20:47:06 < Laurenceb> I dound it 2016-08-24T20:47:10 < Laurenceb> *bound 2016-08-24T20:47:37 < ds2> try it with connect 2016-08-24T20:47:47 < Laurenceb> rfcomm13 {bind yes; device 00:06:66:80:95:37; channel 1; comment "Equine ECG 2-001";} 2016-08-24T20:47:48 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-08-24T20:48:03 < ds2> rfcomm /dev/rfcomm2 ADDR channelNum 2016-08-24T20:48:08 < Laurenceb> Can't create RFCOMM TTY: Address already in use 2016-08-24T20:48:28 < ds2> okay. what does rfcomm -a say? 2016-08-24T20:48:30 < Laurenceb> ah it connected 2016-08-24T20:48:34 < Tectu> who is ds2? 2016-08-24T20:48:36 < Laurenceb> if I released first 2016-08-24T20:48:42 < Laurenceb> so bind is broken? 2016-08-24T20:48:51 < ds2> okay if it connected, let that keep running 2016-08-24T20:49:08 < ds2> in another window, do your magic IO test against /dev/rfcomm2 2016-08-24T20:49:26 < ds2> I think the sematics for bind is a bit different 2016-08-24T20:49:28 < Rob235> so two cells were saying about 2.6v and the other two were saying 3.7? 2016-08-24T20:50:10 < Laurenceb> can't get command mode tho 2016-08-24T20:50:29 < Laurenceb> it might be firmware related, command mode can be turned off at rn-42 end 2016-08-24T20:50:41 < ds2> the AT commands? 2016-08-24T20:50:47 < Laurenceb> I'll try flashing with usb-serial firmware at rn-42 end 2016-08-24T20:50:49 < Laurenceb> yes 2016-08-24T20:50:54 < ds2> good luck on that 2016-08-24T20:51:09 < ds2> they never seem to work right... 2016-08-24T20:51:20 < ds2> if the defaults aren't good enough... 2016-08-24T20:52:01 < Laurenceb> they are horrific 2016-08-24T20:52:10 < Laurenceb> <0.1% of theoretical throughput 2016-08-24T20:52:13 < ds2> isn't this module $$$? 2016-08-24T20:52:59 < Rob235> crap, I need new batteries 2016-08-24T20:53:01 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-92-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-24T20:53:04 < ds2> i played with the HC06's 2016-08-24T20:54:18 < Laurenceb> hmm now it says 2016-08-24T20:54:19 < Laurenceb> Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Connection refused 2016-08-24T20:54:28 < ds2> module side problem 2016-08-24T20:54:35 < ds2> did you just reflash? 2016-08-24T20:54:49 < ds2> if so, it probally needs a re-pairing 2016-08-24T20:54:57 < Laurenceb> not of the module 2016-08-24T20:55:06 < Laurenceb> I cant get rid of /dev/rfcomm13 2016-08-24T20:55:19 < ds2> it is the bind that is screwing with stuff 2016-08-24T20:55:51 < Laurenceb> yeah 2016-08-24T20:55:57 < Laurenceb> release does nothing 2016-08-24T20:57:05 < Rob235> is it a better idea to charge a possibly damaged battery at like 0.5C? 2016-08-24T20:58:51 < Laurenceb> hmmm this isnt working 2016-08-24T20:59:05 < Laurenceb> something seems very broken here 2016-08-24T20:59:26 < kakimir> duckin kikes bought all 3litre ultrasonic devices stocks 2016-08-24T20:59:28 < Laurenceb> sudo rfcomm connect 13 2016-08-24T20:59:28 < Laurenceb> Can't create RFCOMM TTY: Address already in use 2016-08-24T20:59:40 < Laurenceb> ls /devrfcomm* 2016-08-24T20:59:40 < Laurenceb> ls: cannot access /devrfcomm*: No such file or directory 2016-08-24T20:59:52 < Laurenceb> erm with a / 2016-08-24T21:00:49 < Laurenceb> all the more perlexing as I've never seen these issues before 2016-08-24T21:00:55 < Laurenceb> maybe a faulty module 2016-08-24T21:02:50 < Laurenceb> prob time to throw in bin and give up 2016-08-24T21:02:51 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-24T21:03:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.144.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-24T21:06:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T21:06:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d4b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T21:19:44 < Laurenceb> lul works in windoze 2016-08-24T21:22:03 < Tectu> windows master race 2016-08-24T21:24:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T21:24:11 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T21:26:13 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-24T21:28:49 < gjm> install gentoo 2016-08-24T21:28:51 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.37] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T21:28:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-24T21:29:49 < Tectu> arch is best 2016-08-24T21:37:50 < Laurenceb> well thank goodness http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/feminist-porn-director-pandora-blake-wins-right-to-reinstate-fetish-website-in-landmark-ruling-anti-a7067006.html 2016-08-24T21:39:35 < kakimir> http://www.avdweb.nl/arduino/hardware-interfacing/spot-welder-controller.html why use 2 SCR instead of 1 triac? 2016-08-24T21:40:04 < Laurenceb> > arduino 2016-08-24T21:40:09 < Laurenceb> > spot welder 2016-08-24T21:40:13 < Laurenceb> pls pick one 2016-08-24T21:40:28 < kakimir> it's for reference 2016-08-24T21:41:08 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-24T21:41:49 < BrainDamage> with individual SCR you can control the triggers asymmetically 2016-08-24T21:42:06 < BrainDamage> which work better if your load is heavily reactive 2016-08-24T21:42:12 < BrainDamage> ( inductors and caps ) 2016-08-24T21:42:13 < kakimir> oh I see 2016-08-24T21:43:45 < BrainDamage> howrever it's a tarduino design, chances are he used scr just because he already had them or were more available 2016-08-24T21:44:01 < kakimir> there is only one trigger source 2016-08-24T21:48:46 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T21:53:53 < kakimir> how do I do this guise... high side switch with logic level controlled chargebumb driving nfets 2016-08-24T21:54:23 < kakimir> voltage range needs to be something like.. all way to 60volts or so 2016-08-24T21:54:56 < kakimir> well above standard 35volt stuff 2016-08-24T21:55:00 < kakimir> at least 2016-08-24T21:55:22 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T21:55:57 < kakimir> I try to avoid using solution like BTS555 2016-08-24T21:58:08 < kakimir> 10eur a pop 2016-08-24T21:59:29 < kakimir> chargebumbing all the way above battery voltage of XX voltage doesn't seem sensible 2016-08-24T22:00:36 < kakimir> also how to discharge 2016-08-24T22:00:47 < kakimir> if ladder is used 2016-08-24T22:01:26 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T22:02:27 < kakimir> maybe just go with bts555 it has current limiter and all kind of safety switches to it 2016-08-24T22:02:46 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774858.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T22:07:25 < Fleck> https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/58707904.jpg 2016-08-24T22:08:07 < Fleck> http://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Installarch.jpg 2016-08-24T22:09:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-92-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T22:09:29 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T22:12:37 < kakimir> I need fuse bolts that can be integrated to PCB 2016-08-24T22:12:42 < kakimir> M5 2016-08-24T22:14:25 < kakimir> for bolt-on fuses 2016-08-24T22:19:35 < Fleck> I need M5x22 with reverse thread :/ 2016-08-24T22:20:33 < kakimir> why.. ? 2016-08-24T22:20:39 < Fleck> drill chuck 2016-08-24T22:20:42 < kakimir> that's crazy 2016-08-24T22:21:36 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-24T22:22:35 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T22:23:28 < kakimir> Fleck: ebay "drill chuck screw" 2016-08-24T22:23:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.137.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-24T22:23:59 < Fleck> yeah. was looking for it today 2016-08-24T22:24:18 < Fleck> found one good, 3€ price, shipping 13€... 2016-08-24T22:24:31 < Laurenceb> is blueman recommended? 2016-08-24T22:24:35 < Laurenceb> for linux? 2016-08-24T22:25:07 < kakimir> just ubuntu 2016-08-24T22:25:12 < Laurenceb> wut 2016-08-24T22:25:18 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T22:25:20 < Laurenceb> oh the built in thing 2016-08-24T22:25:30 < Laurenceb> I do see two bluetooth icons, but neither work 2016-08-24T22:25:43 < BrainDamage> blueman works for me, but don't use 2 managers 2016-08-24T22:25:48 < BrainDamage> or they'll fight 2016-08-24T22:25:56 < Laurenceb> yeah 2016-08-24T22:25:59 < BrainDamage> you can even use the command line if you're inclined so 2016-08-24T22:26:49 < Laurenceb> well I just added mac to rfcomm.conf 2016-08-24T22:26:56 < Laurenceb> but thats not helping me much 2016-08-24T22:27:07 < Laurenceb> I still haven't got a clue whats wrong 2016-08-24T22:27:16 < BrainDamage> use bluetoothctl 2016-08-24T22:27:34 < BrainDamage> send agent on and default agent 2016-08-24T22:27:40 < BrainDamage> thenyou can sen commands in realtime 2016-08-24T22:27:43 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-24T22:27:52 < BrainDamage> also, you can restart bluez with debug flags 2016-08-24T22:27:58 < BrainDamage> and it'll spew tons of data 2016-08-24T22:27:59 < Laurenceb> ok 2016-08-24T22:29:48 < Laurenceb> but that would be beyond my skillz 2016-08-24T22:30:16 < Laurenceb> its got to be something simple, as its worked on every previous module and works with this module on windows xp 2016-08-24T22:30:43 < Laurenceb> I can only think that pairing went wrong somehow 2016-08-24T22:30:58 < aandrew> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/thelightphone/the-light-phone/description 2016-08-24T22:30:59 < aandrew> lol 2016-08-24T22:31:12 < Laurenceb> maybe I should kickstarter someone to fix my bluetooth 2016-08-24T22:31:48 -!- Teeed [~teeed@na1noc.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-24T22:31:51 < Steffanx> or shut yourself down from the internet and get shit done. 2016-08-24T22:32:37 < Laurenceb> lul but I have 0 knowledge of bluetooth 2016-08-24T22:32:46 < Laurenceb> typing random shit into terminal doesnt help 2016-08-24T22:32:52 < Steffanx> but its the only way for you to not visit 4chan and co. 2016-08-24T22:32:57 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-24T22:33:14 < kakimir> how much moneyz Laurenceb has? 2016-08-24T22:33:17 < Steffanx> i get the idea you are easiy distracted by those websites 2016-08-24T22:33:22 < Steffanx> *easily 2016-08-24T22:33:42 < Tectu> > It's getting a little chilly in here. Time to start up a few instances of IntelliJ. 2016-08-24T22:35:28 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T22:35:50 < kakimir> aandrew: how to scam people with piece of plastic? 2016-08-24T22:38:46 < Laurenceb> sudo echo "00:06:66:80:95:37 1234" > /var/lib/bluetooth/00:06:66:80:95:37/pincodes 2016-08-24T22:38:54 < Laurenceb> gives me permission denied :-/ 2016-08-24T22:43:07 < kakimir> I need kind of solder on bolt that I can place on backside and it wont fall of when it's soldered and all 2016-08-24T22:43:32 < kakimir> or a nut 2016-08-24T22:43:33 < aandrew> Laurenceb you can't sudo and > 2016-08-24T22:43:38 < Laurenceb> oh 2016-08-24T22:44:05 < Steffanx> you can sudo su -c "the command iwthout sudo". 2016-08-24T22:44:07 < BrainDamage> only echo would be sudo'ed 2016-08-24T22:44:19 < Steffanx> *sudo sh 2016-08-24T22:44:19 < Steffanx> not su 2016-08-24T22:44:20 < Steffanx> lol 2016-08-24T22:44:21 < BrainDamage> the > runs in your shell, with user permisions 2016-08-24T22:44:36 < Steffanx> or just run as root :P 2016-08-24T22:44:37 < Laurenceb> well that didnt help 2016-08-24T22:44:48 < Laurenceb> pin code added bu still connection refused 2016-08-24T22:45:12 < Laurenceb> got to be something simple wrong somewhere 2016-08-24T22:45:37 < aandrew> bluetooth and linux were always hate 2016-08-24T22:45:45 < Laurenceb> that is v true 2016-08-24T22:46:04 < Steffanx> why you dont qt on windows and forgot about lunix for now? 2016-08-24T22:46:25 < Laurenceb> cuz final system is osx 2016-08-24T22:46:36 < Steffanx> haha. joking right? 2016-08-24T22:46:40 < Laurenceb> nope 2016-08-24T22:48:08 < Laurenceb> maybe hot air off the module and start again lol 2016-08-24T22:48:20 < Laurenceb> prob faster than debugging this 2016-08-24T22:49:08 < Steffanx> better get a mac 2016-08-24T22:49:17 < Laurenceb> yeah 2016-08-24T22:50:14 < Laurenceb> I can find lots of people on google with same issue, but no solution 2016-08-24T22:54:02 < Thorn> is this legit http://i.stack.imgur.com/H1tnP.png 2016-08-24T22:54:57 < Thorn> sampled at 2f but reconstructed into a flatline 2016-08-24T22:56:05 < Steffanx> Doesn't it say > 2f not >= 2f? 2016-08-24T22:56:32 -!- MrP[Home] [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T23:01:14 < BrainDamage> yes 2016-08-24T23:01:21 < Laurenceb> damn 2016-08-24T23:01:30 < Laurenceb> same issue on all linux machines I can try 2016-08-24T23:01:46 < Laurenceb> and its on all RN-42 modules ordered past a certain date 2016-08-24T23:01:57 < Laurenceb> looks like a firmware of factory config change 2016-08-24T23:02:30 < Laurenceb> will have to hope I get lucky on osx 2016-08-24T23:03:13 < MrP[Home]> I have this makefile for stm32 that i want to add something to. I want it to build a binary file but i have no idea how to add that. 2016-08-24T23:03:14 < MrP[Home]> http://pastebin.com/0X8kDA0q 2016-08-24T23:03:24 < MrP[Home]> Any help is appreciated 2016-08-24T23:05:58 < Rickta59> a bin file or an ihex file? 2016-08-24T23:06:35 < Rickta59> the rule at 98 creates an ihex MrP[Home] 2016-08-24T23:06:40 < Laurenceb> Qt bluetooth stack says pairing error :S 2016-08-24T23:06:54 * Laurenceb is betting on a module issue 2016-08-24T23:06:59 < MrP[Home]> Rickta59 .bin 2016-08-24T23:07:04 < Laurenceb> for some reason it works on windozer 2016-08-24T23:07:12 < Rickta59> if you want to create a real bin, add a rule that looks like that and change the name and the -O ihex to -O binary 2016-08-24T23:07:15 < zyp> MrP[Home], just copy the rule at 98 and replace ihex with binary 2016-08-24T23:08:04 < MrP[Home]> zyp So i just add another rule that looks the same but with binary? 2016-08-24T23:08:08 -!- Teeed [~teeed@na1noc.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T23:08:13 < zyp> although messing around with bin or hex files is kinda old fashioned, doesn't most modern tools take elf files directly? 2016-08-24T23:08:20 < zyp> all tools I use do, at least 2016-08-24T23:08:29 < zyp> MrP[Home], yeah, and a different target name too, of course 2016-08-24T23:10:15 < MrP[Home]> zyp okey, thanks, i'm gonna try 2016-08-24T23:11:41 < Laurenceb> time to email roving networks 2016-08-24T23:23:44 < MrP[Home]> zyp do i also need to add something at line 91? 2016-08-24T23:27:42 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-24T23:30:52 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-24T23:34:37 < Rickta59> why do you want a bin file MrP[Home] ? 2016-08-24T23:34:50 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-24T23:35:33 < MrP[Home]> Rickta59 there is a software that uses it to flash the stm32 right now so it would be sweet to get that working, which it does now thanks to zyp :D 2016-08-24T23:35:47 < Rickta59> which flash software? 2016-08-24T23:49:01 < kakimir> http://uk.rs-online.com/largeimages/F4316696-01.jpg is there nice pcb holders for these? --- Day changed Thu Aug 25 2016 2016-08-25T00:02:08 < kakimir> http://www.bootland.nl/images/P/qi55000.jpg something like this but with bolts going thru bottom for connecting to PCB 2016-08-25T00:06:35 < Steffanx> Solder sma to it. 2016-08-25T00:08:31 -!- MrP[Home] [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T00:10:36 < kakimir> I wonder how much amps sma puts thru 2016-08-25T00:10:42 < kakimir> the case itself 2016-08-25T00:11:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.98.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-25T00:14:43 < kakimir> note: .fi http://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/Wurth-Electronics/7461383/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvz8LftK4jerrlbgsxB8qPHkCREUCw2ako%3d 2016-08-25T00:14:57 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d41a73.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T00:14:57 < Tectu> won't touch a non-.ch mouser link 2016-08-25T00:14:58 < kakimir> messes with dongs session 2016-08-25T00:15:12 < Tectu> mouser fucks up all your shit with their country stuff :( 2016-08-25T00:15:27 < Tectu> so thanks for the note :p 2016-08-25T00:15:38 < kakimir> fucks your ducks 2016-08-25T00:15:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-217-92-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-25T00:15:54 -!- kuldeep_ [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-25T00:16:52 < kakimir> mouser partno. 2016-08-25T00:16:53 < kakimir> 710-7461383 2016-08-25T00:19:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d4b9d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-25T00:19:59 < zyp> hmm 2016-08-25T00:20:26 < zyp> I started wondering how much current you could put through center connector of a SMA 2016-08-25T00:20:58 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-25T00:21:03 < zyp> SMAs are usually rated for some hundred watts at low freqs 2016-08-25T00:21:23 < zyp> assuming 50ohm load, that would imply a few amps 2016-08-25T00:23:00 < kakimir> they sometimes supply power with it 2016-08-25T00:23:16 < kakimir> nasty 2016-08-25T00:25:02 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-25T00:27:46 -!- Steffann [uid181611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ouiqsemmzjucedeo] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T00:30:06 -!- Amkei [~Amkei@unaffiliated/amkei] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-25T00:37:38 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T01:15:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T01:30:48 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28utyshsdg75svp.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T01:34:10 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28utyshsdg75svp.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-25T01:36:01 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774858.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-25T01:39:20 < jadew> linux doesn't have viruses, it has amazing security holes that everyone pretends they're not there/were never there 2016-08-25T01:39:51 < jadew> I just got a notification from our hosting provider that some of our servers (lots of them) are vulnerable to this: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2016-5696 2016-08-25T01:40:13 < jadew> the description portraits the vulnerability asa man-in-the middle attack, except it's not 2016-08-25T01:40:23 < jadew> it can apparently be done from anywhere in the world 2016-08-25T01:40:28 < jadew> ON MOST LINUX SYSTEMS 2016-08-25T01:40:36 < jadew> including android devices 2016-08-25T01:40:50 < jadew> someone can simply take control over your traffic 2016-08-25T01:41:08 < jadew> http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mitnick-attack-reappears-at-geekpwn-macau-contest-300270779.html 2016-08-25T01:42:16 < jadew> how crazy is that? 2016-08-25T01:42:53 < jadew> "there are fewer viruses on linux" - that's because they don't need to infect your box, they can just take over! 2016-08-25T01:45:39 < jadew> I'm looking forward for the ping exploit to be back 2016-08-25T01:49:58 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T01:50:42 -!- jadew`` [~jadew4@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T01:53:56 -!- jadew`` [~jadew4@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-25T02:03:24 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T02:03:47 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-25T02:07:12 < jadew> I keep getting notifications about vulnerable severs 2016-08-25T02:07:26 < jadew> 11 so far 2016-08-25T02:07:45 < Laurenceb__> I keep getting bluetooth connection refused 2016-08-25T02:08:06 < Laurenceb__> I'd prefer to swap places 2016-08-25T02:10:37 < Laurenceb__> helltooth 2016-08-25T02:14:00 < karlp> zyp: did you update any of your laks demos to handle this clock setup thing you said was missing? 2016-08-25T02:14:49 < karlp> or is it just add "rcc_init()" ? 2016-08-25T02:15:01 < zyp> yeah, just add that and you should be good 2016-08-25T02:15:14 < zyp> I haven't touched any demos recently, but I added L0 to rcc_init() 2016-08-25T02:16:15 < zyp> the function is kinda stupid since it makes a lot of assumptions, but so far I'm not doing anything that needs anything more flexible 2016-08-25T02:22:56 < karlp> heh, thought it was still busted, turned out the usb cable wasn't connected at the other end :) 2016-08-25T02:24:11 < zyp> if you're looking at the CDC ACM echo thing, you should probably be aware that it doesn't have proper handling of flow control 2016-08-25T02:24:31 < karlp> well, yeah, I kinda gathered that, it largely seems to be as simplistic as the libopencm3 demo :) 2016-08-25T02:24:41 < karlp> but thought I'd at least finish what I started there... 2016-08-25T02:25:02 < Rob235> gf looking for a used car, any input on a 2010 honda fit? 2016-08-25T02:25:51 < zyp> it works fine as long as the host is polling IN as fast as it's sending stuff OUT, so it should be fine, but it isn't anything I'd do in a real application 2016-08-25T02:27:02 < karlp> plz pull git@github.com:karlp/laks_demo.git usb-cdc-acm-updates kthx ;) 2016-08-25T02:30:24 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d4137f.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T02:31:57 < zyp> merged and pushed ;) 2016-08-25T02:33:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d41a73.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-25T03:10:09 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hjklfpjlfekgpyok] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-25T03:11:48 -!- Mujoman [817fe27c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.127.226.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T03:13:06 < Mujoman> For peripheral to memory DMA, what "triggers" a read of the peripheral data register? 2016-08-25T03:13:17 < Mujoman> Like, there has to be a clock somewhere, but where/what? 2016-08-25T03:13:49 < dongs> depends on peripheral. usually timer or peripheral clock (like i2c, spi, i2s,), etc 2016-08-25T03:15:09 < zyp> Mujoman, whatever dma request you configure it to 2016-08-25T03:15:30 < Mujoman> This is DCMI - so there is a clock input 2016-08-25T03:15:44 < zyp> dma requests are similar to interrupt requests (IRQs), except they are hooked up to a DMA engine, not the CPU 2016-08-25T03:15:53 < Mujoman> My problem is that I'm not getting as many transfer complete DMA interrupts as I would expect 2016-08-25T03:15:55 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-25T03:16:18 < Mujoman> So internally, since I've told it a channel & stream, it knows to look at the DCMI clk pin? 2016-08-25T03:16:44 < zyp> it doesn't have anything to do with the clk pin 2016-08-25T03:16:55 < zyp> you've hooked it up to one of DCMI's DMA requests 2016-08-25T03:17:16 < Mujoman> oh. So the DCMI hardware knows when to read it, and it fires off a DMA request? 2016-08-25T03:17:50 < zyp> hang on, let me reference the docs 2016-08-25T03:18:27 < zyp> ah, DCMI only have a single dma request, so it's implicit, nothing in particular to configure 2016-08-25T03:18:42 < zyp> and yes, DCMI hardware would trigger it when it has data that's ready to be read 2016-08-25T03:18:50 < Mujoman> Ah, ok. 2016-08-25T03:19:20 < Mujoman> I'm not getting as DMA TC interrupts as I would expect - dunno how to figure out where it;s not working. 2016-08-25T03:19:43 < zyp> how many are you getting and how many are you expecting? 2016-08-25T03:19:57 < dongs> Mujoman: what are you doing wiht DCMI anyway 2016-08-25T03:20:09 < dongs> i've always wondered how that shit works if single DMA request is 64k max 2016-08-25T03:20:20 < Mujoman> I am getting an inconsistent amount per camera frame - I should be getting 32 2016-08-25T03:20:50 < dongs> isnt there a DCMI overflow flag, are youchecking that 2016-08-25T03:20:52 < Mujoman> dongs, I have a camera (obviously). It's 1MP, so yes, too much. But there's a small amount of dead time at the end of each row, which should be enough to move one of the double buffer memory addresses. 2016-08-25T03:20:57 < zyp> Mujoman, are you using double-buffered continous mode? 2016-08-25T03:21:09 < Mujoman> Yup 2016-08-25T03:21:13 < dongs> Mujoman: so you have external ram then? 2016-08-25T03:21:21 < Mujoman> yup 2016-08-25T03:21:21 < dongs> or where are you caching that shit 2016-08-25T03:21:32 < zyp> then you can swap one buffer pointer while the other is transferred to, so that's fine 2016-08-25T03:21:42 < zyp> end of line dead time doesn't even matter 2016-08-25T03:22:10 < Mujoman> Well, the end of line dead time is nice, cause it makes especially sure that you're changing the address when it's not being used. 2016-08-25T03:23:33 < zyp> also, as dongs suggested, check the overrun flag 2016-08-25T03:23:33 < Mujoman> I might look at that overrun DCMI flag - not that I'm sure what to do with it. 2016-08-25T03:23:47 < dongs> well, if youre overrunning you will know ;d 2016-08-25T03:24:00 < dongs> Mujoman: what is your DMA transfer size 2016-08-25T03:24:01 < zyp> yeah 2016-08-25T03:24:15 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-25T03:24:16 < dongs> 1MP is what width by height? 2016-08-25T03:24:37 < dongs> like 1280x1024 or someshit? 2016-08-25T03:25:11 < zyp> if the overrun flag is set, it means that DCMI captures data faster than DMA can carry it away, which means you need to figure out why DMA is too slow 2016-08-25T03:25:48 < zyp> if the overrun flag is not set, DMA is consuming all data from DCMI, so you're probably doing something wrong with the buffers or transfer sizes 2016-08-25T03:26:16 < zyp> so it's a starting point to figure out what's going wrong 2016-08-25T03:26:22 < Mujoman> Yeah, 1280x1024. DMA transfer size is 0xA000, which is 32 rows (also tried 0x400, which is 1 row) 2016-08-25T03:26:26 < Mujoman> yup, compiling now :D 2016-08-25T03:26:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T03:27:01 < dongs> whats the dma unit size? 2016-08-25T03:27:05 < dongs> byte? 16bit? 2016-08-25T03:27:23 < zyp> and which bit size on the camera interface? 2016-08-25T03:28:03 < zyp> as far as I can tell, you should use 32-bit DMA, the DCMI FIFO will pack incoming data 2016-08-25T03:28:05 < dongs> can you increase DMA unit size on both ends if they're mod32 bits, to make transfers faster? 2016-08-25T03:28:33 < Mujoman> The data register for the DCMI is 32bit. - the camera data itself is only 10-bit. SO I have the dma size as 16bit. I have FIFO, full threshold, single mode (no burst) 2016-08-25T03:29:09 < zyp> uh, you should probably be using 32-bit DMA 2016-08-25T03:29:51 < zyp> DCMI_DR might not support smaller accesses, and if that's the case you'll be throwing away every other pixel when using 16-bit dma 2016-08-25T03:30:08 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T03:30:44 < Mujoman> Hmm. by DMA size do we mean memory size? 2016-08-25T03:30:44 < zyp> which again would result in half the data you're expecting and thereby half the number of TC interrupts 2016-08-25T03:31:05 < Mujoman> ALso, I am getting two overruns at startup, then none afterwards 2016-08-25T03:31:19 < dongs> Mujoman: DMA_PeripheralDataSize_ thing 2016-08-25T03:31:25 < zyp> that sounds normal if you start DCMI before DMA 2016-08-25T03:31:48 < zyp> DCMI will lose some data before DMA is ready to grab the rest 2016-08-25T03:32:04 < Mujoman> Ok, yeah, "dma_set_peripheral_size(DMA2, DMA_STREAM1, DMA_SxCR_PSIZE_32BIT);", so we're good 2016-08-25T03:32:06 < Mujoman> cool. 2016-08-25T03:32:14 < Mujoman> SO that means it's probably a DMA issue somewhere. 2016-08-25T03:32:14 < dongs> oh boy, libopencm3 2016-08-25T03:32:19 < dongs> good luck 2016-08-25T03:32:27 < dongs> you're probly the first dude using DCMI with that shit. 2016-08-25T03:32:27 < Mujoman> ahaha. 2016-08-25T03:32:37 < Mujoman> The DCMI is all through registers :D 2016-08-25T03:32:41 < dongs> lol 2016-08-25T03:33:05 < zyp> so, do you have both PSIZE = 32b and MSIZE = 32b? 2016-08-25T03:33:26 < Mujoman> Psize=32b, Msize=16b 2016-08-25T03:33:40 < zyp> that's dumb 2016-08-25T03:33:56 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T03:34:06 < dongs> yeah no 2016-08-25T03:34:09 < Mujoman> Does it just truncate data? Cause the peripheral doesn't use all 32bits, the camera itself is only 10 2016-08-25T03:34:28 < zyp> IIRC it'll just split it into two transfers 2016-08-25T03:34:57 < Mujoman> Well, I'll change it back to 32 and 32. 2016-08-25T03:35:01 < zyp> but remember what I said, DCMI is already packing 2016-08-25T03:35:46 < zyp> also, your math is wrong 2016-08-25T03:35:51 < zyp> 02:26:22 < Mujoman> Yeah, 1280x1024. DMA transfer size is 0xA000, which is 32 rows (also tried 0x400, which is 1 row) 2016-08-25T03:36:11 < zyp> 0x400 is 1024, 0xa000 is 32*1280 2016-08-25T03:36:35 < zyp> and neither of those are correct values for DMA «number of data» 2016-08-25T03:36:49 < dongs> 10butt per pixel 2016-08-25T03:37:12 < dongs> shouldnt it be more like 0x3200 2016-08-25T03:37:17 < zyp> each 32b transfer will transfer two pixels (each 10b pixel extended into a 16b half) 2016-08-25T03:37:18 < dongs> for 32 orws 2016-08-25T03:37:22 < dongs> oh 2016-08-25T03:37:26 < dongs> its extened, not packed? 2016-08-25T03:37:51 < Mujoman> I am going to read teh camera datasheet to check the size 2016-08-25T03:37:53 < zyp> 10 extended to 16, then 2x16 packed into 32 2016-08-25T03:38:12 < zyp> DCMI does this 2016-08-25T03:38:28 < zyp> doesn't matter if it's 10b, 12b or 14b, either gets extended to 16b 2016-08-25T03:38:36 < zyp> I think 8b would get packed 4x8 into 32 2016-08-25T03:38:59 < zyp> so anyway, 0xa000 should give you 64 lines with 1280px each 2016-08-25T03:39:55 < zyp> and one line would be 0x280 (1280/2) 2016-08-25T03:40:31 < Mujoman> I don't think I had grasped the packing bit in any way shape or form 2016-08-25T03:42:14 < zyp> RM0090, DCMI, functional overview, physical interface, 10-bit data 2016-08-25T03:42:23 < zyp> describes how it's packed 2016-08-25T03:42:26 < Mujoman> Yup, have it open now. 2016-08-25T03:43:12 < Mujoman> and the DMA doesn't do any unpacking of that? 2016-08-25T03:44:08 < zyp> maybe it could, but you don't want it to 2016-08-25T03:44:48 < Mujoman> That explains why my visualisation on PC (from just a gdb dump) doesn't work 2016-08-25T03:44:55 < zyp> your source register is 32-bit and your target memory is 32-bit wide, so transferring full 32-bit words per transfer is twice as efficient as doing two 16-bit transfers instead 2016-08-25T03:45:56 < Mujoman> That makes sense. Thank you. 2016-08-25T03:49:23 < dongs> man red flags everywhere 2016-08-25T03:49:27 < dongs> libopencm3 2016-08-25T03:49:28 < dongs> gdb 2016-08-25T03:49:53 < zyp> :) 2016-08-25T03:50:31 < Mujoman> ahaha. 2016-08-25T03:50:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-25T03:50:59 < Mujoman> Well, I don't know if this has fixed my problem. But it is definitely more correct. 2016-08-25T03:51:43 < zyp> with video data, just looking at the output tends to be a pretty good indicator of what's wrong 2016-08-25T03:53:26 < Mujoman> You know, it's entirely possible that I am an idiot, and have had my logic analyzer sampling too slow 2016-08-25T03:54:17 < Mujoman> yeeeeeah. 2016-08-25T03:54:34 < Mujoman> I'm getting the right number of DMA TC interrupts now I think. 2016-08-25T03:55:01 < Mujoman> 1280*1024*16 / (32*0xA000) = 16 = #DMA TC interrupts 2016-08-25T03:56:02 < dongs> how much external ram do you have? 2016-08-25T03:56:07 < Mujoman> 8MB 2016-08-25T03:56:14 < dongs> no shit, wtf is it, PSRAM or something? 2016-08-25T03:56:20 < dongs> 8megs of sram is $$$ 2016-08-25T03:56:35 < zyp> SDRAM? this could be F42x or newer 2016-08-25T03:56:35 < dongs> or od you have one of those F4s wiht SDRAM 2016-08-25T03:56:36 < Mujoman> the discovery board? 2016-08-25T03:56:42 < dongs> oh, 429 then 2016-08-25T03:56:48 < Mujoman> STM32F429i yeah 2016-08-25T03:59:03 < Mujoman> Also, I am a little bit of an idiot. Because they are being packed, I don't need to make the image buffer so big. 2016-08-25T03:59:09 < dongs> i wonder if theres any useful way to do DCMI DMA on regular F40x 2016-08-25T03:59:33 < dongs> there seems to be almost no way to get it off chip fast enough 2016-08-25T03:59:39 < zyp> HS USB? :) 2016-08-25T03:59:44 < dongs> zyp, psh 2016-08-25T04:00:03 < Mujoman> Or, I could make it just as big, but have it uint16, and typecast the pointer type. 2016-08-25T04:00:25 < Mujoman> Well, I am probably going to do a filter that is effectively per pixel. 2016-08-25T04:00:38 < Mujoman> I just wanted to put it into SDRAM so I could actually take a photo and look at it 2016-08-25T04:01:28 < dongs> anyway, its the camera that clocks DCMI_CLK right? so you don't have a choice to pause the transfer until its done 2016-08-25T04:01:55 < zyp> you can do snapshot mode on DCMI 2016-08-25T04:02:08 < zyp> i.e. it'll stop capturing after one frame, until you start it again 2016-08-25T04:02:17 < dongs> err 2016-08-25T04:02:23 < dongs> "one frame" is the problem isnt it? 2016-08-25T04:02:31 < dongs> even at 1mp its > 1meg in size 2016-08-25T04:02:35 < dongs> camera has no fifo 2016-08-25T04:02:40 < zyp> and there's also the rate limiting thing where it drops every other or every 3 of 4 frames 2016-08-25T04:03:05 < dongs> yeah but you still need to transfer 1meg at 27mhz or wahtever to somewehre 2016-08-25T04:03:06 < Mujoman> Well, I have a timer clocking the camera, and then the camera clocks DCMI. I'm only running at 2.6Mhz, so about 0.6s for a photo 2016-08-25T04:03:09 < dongs> even in single snapshot 2016-08-25T04:03:14 < zyp> dongs, true 2016-08-25T04:03:30 < dongs> Mujoman: parallel DCMI clock is 2.6mhz? 2016-08-25T04:03:32 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T04:04:12 < zyp> dongs, pretty sure it shouldn't be a huge problem to stream it over isochronous HS USB 2016-08-25T04:04:26 < Mujoman> Yes dongs 2016-08-25T04:04:41 < dongs> psh 2016-08-25T04:05:32 < zyp> DCMI DMAs to some buffer ring, OTG_HS DMAs from those buffers, CPU just manages flow control, isochronous should ensure that USB can always keep up 2016-08-25T04:06:08 < Mujoman> Er, but why? Just buy a webcam? 2016-08-25T04:06:12 < dongs> seems a bit overkill when USB webcam chip is $1 2016-08-25T04:06:13 < dongs> yeah 2016-08-25T04:06:26 < Mujoman> Unless we're talking about trying too use DCMI to get arbitary signals into a computer fast 2016-08-25T04:06:40 < dongs> tehre are better ways to do that anyway 2016-08-25T04:06:48 < dongs> you can literally just do GPIO DMA on 16bit wide thing 2016-08-25T04:06:54 < zyp> hey, I'm not the one asking for ways to get data from DCMI off chip 2016-08-25T04:07:07 < dongs> zyp, "off chip" more like to do something useful with it 2016-08-25T04:07:13 < dongs> i.e. save to SD or process or etc. 2016-08-25T04:07:29 < dongs> i mean why 405 has DCMI if you can't do anything wiht it 2016-08-25T04:07:36 < zyp> HS USB in host, save to memory stick? 2016-08-25T04:07:55 < dongs> surely not a solution for ~embedded~ 2016-08-25T04:07:58 < zyp> :p 2016-08-25T04:08:05 < Mujoman> Isn't GPIO DMA limitied to 10MHz? 2016-08-25T04:08:15 < Mujoman> Or less than the about 50 DCMI can do? 2016-08-25T04:08:16 < dongs> why would it it? 2016-08-25T04:08:22 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28utyshsdg75svp.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T04:08:54 < Mujoman> I dunno, somebody else told me that 2016-08-25T04:10:17 < dongs> 'receiving' 54mbytes/sec into F4 is nearly useless 2016-08-25T04:10:24 < dongs> as you REALLY cant d o anything with it at that speed. 2016-08-25T04:10:25 < zyp> not strictly true, DCMI have advantages for plain data too 2016-08-25T04:11:11 < Mujoman> Receiving, buffering, then shoving over USB to a computer. 2016-08-25T04:11:12 < zyp> DMA is subject to bus contention, DCMI got accurate sampling and a FIFO to deal with DMA jitter 2016-08-25T04:11:36 < Mujoman> Of course, you can buy 24MHz, 8 channel logic analyzers for $8 2016-08-25T04:12:00 < zyp> fx2-based 2016-08-25T04:12:04 < Mujoman> yeah. 2016-08-25T04:12:30 < zyp> fx2 is pretty much designed to shove parallel data onto USB 2016-08-25T04:12:33 < zyp> or other way around 2016-08-25T04:24:39 < aandrew> yep 2016-08-25T04:25:32 < Mujoman> *sigh. 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That seems to become more and more common here. 2016-08-25T11:24:24 < jpa-> yeah, we have both mother's day and father's day in finland 2016-08-25T11:24:31 < jpa-> IIRC they are exactly 6 months apart or something 2016-08-25T11:24:49 < jpa-> with mother's day in bright nice may, and father's day in dark gloomy november 2016-08-25T11:24:59 < Steffann> Nah i meant a day of work. 2016-08-25T11:25:05 < Steffann> Off 2016-08-25T11:25:26 < jpa-> ah, i had 3 weeks when baby was born 2016-08-25T11:26:33 < Steffann> Here it gets more common to go work 4 days/week and let mommy work too. 2016-08-25T11:30:30 < jpa-> yeah, we are still keeping options open on what we'll do after my wife's vacation ends 2016-08-25T11:31:07 < jpa-> breastfeeding for the 6 months or so makes going to work yet pretty difficult 2016-08-25T11:40:45 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T11:41:48 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T11:45:33 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T11:45:56 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T11:49:01 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-25T12:01:01 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@94.136.92.143] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-25T12:04:57 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-25T12:33:41 < Lux> is it a bad idea to leave out the load capacitors on the crystal oscillator ? 2016-08-25T12:34:42 < Lux> seems like the oscillator doesn't start properly with the "right load capacitance" when I try to run the dfu bootloader 2016-08-25T12:34:51 < Lux> removing the caps solves the problem 2016-08-25T12:35:55 < PeterM> im almost certain you didnt size your load caps correctly... 2016-08-25T12:35:59 < zyp> then you have a bigger problem 2016-08-25T12:36:17 < Fleck> howdoyou Makefile in windows? cygwin? 2016-08-25T12:36:24 < Lux> what might that be ? =) 2016-08-25T12:36:46 < zyp> load caps affect the frequency of the oscillator 2016-08-25T12:37:08 < Lux> yeah, I'm aware of that 2016-08-25T12:37:16 < zyp> getting them wrong will detune it so even if it runs, it'll be slightly wrong 2016-08-25T12:37:39 < PeterM> though, not by THAT much, and if you get them wrong by an large amount it just wont start up 2016-08-25T12:37:44 < jpa-> Fleck: gnuwin32 make :P 2016-08-25T12:37:55 < Lux> maybe the stray capacitance is just pretty large 2016-08-25T12:38:06 < Lux> but that's also hard to figure out 2016-08-25T12:39:14 < jpa-> Fleck: here i have some ooooold instructions on how to compile makefile stm32 projects on windows; nowadays you would use gcc-arm-embedded instead of codesourcery https://svn.kapsi.fi/jpa/dsoquad/freq/README.txt 2016-08-25T12:43:25 < Lux> http://www.digikey.at/product-detail/de/txc-corporation/8Z-12.000MAAJ-T/887-1487-1-ND/2627055 that's the crystal I'm using with 15pF caps 2016-08-25T12:43:33 < Lux> it's also pretty close to the board 2016-08-25T12:44:03 < Lux> I mean mcu 2016-08-25T12:47:52 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d41a3a.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-25T12:54:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-165.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T12:58:41 < Fleck> jpa-: getting bunch of errors: command syntax error, no clue what that means, path are wrong or... meh hate wincrap... :/ 2016-08-25T12:58:54 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T13:00:18 < Fleck> Do I have to change all / to \ now in Makefile ? 2016-08-25T13:01:05 < dongs> "wincrap", nice trolling there faggot. 2016-08-25T13:01:16 < Steffann> Fleck windows 10? Install bash for windows. 2016-08-25T13:01:18 < dongs> "I'm too fucking dumb to RTFM, so I'll just blame it on the OS" 2016-08-25T13:01:23 < Fleck> nope, 7 2016-08-25T13:01:27 < Steffann> Apt get make 2016-08-25T13:01:31 < Steffann> Awh too bad. 2016-08-25T13:01:59 < Steffann> I bet dongs uses bash all the time now. 2016-08-25T13:02:24 < dongs> C:\>apt get fuck off 2016-08-25T13:02:24 < dongs> 'apt' is not recognized as an internal or external command, 2016-08-25T13:02:25 < dongs> operable program or batch file. 2016-08-25T13:02:29 < dongs> sorry to ruin it 4 u 2016-08-25T13:02:35 < jpa-> Fleck: well, works for me like the makefile is in the repo 2016-08-25T13:03:06 < Steffann> Works4me(tm) 2016-08-25T13:03:25 < Fleck> :D 2016-08-25T13:04:01 < Steffann> What are you building fleck? Ugfx? 2016-08-25T13:04:09 < Fleck> also yes 2016-08-25T13:04:44 < Steffann> Time to pm tectu. He likes that 2016-08-25T13:04:58 < Fleck> yeah, and become lazy dick or smthn... 2016-08-25T13:06:34 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T13:10:53 < Tectu> did somebody kill crt? 2016-08-25T13:13:16 < jpa-> yeah, steffie did 2016-08-25T13:13:52 < Tectu> first superbia, then ohsix, now crt.... Mr. Steffann, when will this end? 2016-08-25T13:14:15 < karlp> weren't you campgaining for more on topic chats? 2016-08-25T13:14:34 < karlp> overnight logs are full of in depth on topic chats, what's the problem? 2016-08-25T13:14:53 < Tectu> uhm, I wasn't serious at all :) 2016-08-25T13:15:01 < Tectu> and yes, I was there too, most of the time :p 2016-08-25T13:15:32 < Tectu> anyway, currently playing with the DSI interface of those STM32F469 2016-08-25T13:15:46 < Tectu> so many things to setup 2016-08-25T13:16:41 < Steffann> karlp: that failed anyway. As in: not going to happen 2016-08-25T13:16:59 < karlp> what failed? 2016-08-25T13:17:15 < Steffann> The campgaining 2016-08-25T13:17:31 < karlp> Tectu: yeah, chuck in #libopencm3 has been working with DSI, sounds monstrous 2016-08-25T13:17:36 * karlp should type better 2016-08-25T13:17:51 < Tectu> karlp, good, so I am not the only one who feels overwhelmed :p 2016-08-25T13:18:03 < Steffann> Thr conclusion wad kinda: leave it as it is. 2016-08-25T13:18:06 < Steffann> Was 2016-08-25T13:18:08 < Tectu> maybe I should go and bug him 2016-08-25T13:33:18 < Lux> now I know what's wrong... gmcrit of that crystal is too high 2016-08-25T13:37:00 < Lux> any suggestions on a small 12mhz crystal for an f4 mcu ? :) 2016-08-25T13:40:02 < jpa-> digikey search should have :P 2016-08-25T13:40:13 < dongs> any 3225 2016-08-25T13:40:30 < dongs> or you can go 24 and half it 2016-08-25T13:40:54 < karlp> Ithink zypsnips even has one... 2016-08-25T13:41:03 < jpa-> i thought so too but didn't find 2016-08-25T13:41:12 < dongs> zypsnips had load caps wisdom i think 2016-08-25T13:41:22 < karlp> hrm, thought we had the tiny cheap crystals too 2016-08-25T13:42:41 < jpa-> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/crystal-rtc.txt just 32k 2016-08-25T13:43:14 < karlp> yeah, don't seem to have anything here uncommitted either 2016-08-25T13:44:09 < dongs> cheap 3225 ends at 12MHz, 24 and up can be 2016 package 2016-08-25T13:44:16 < dongs> 8MHz is available in 3225 but expensive as shit 2016-08-25T13:44:23 < dongs> so like 5032 or someshit for that one 2016-08-25T13:44:25 < Lux> 3225 makes more sense the one i had was 2520 2016-08-25T13:44:32 < dongs> you had 12mhz in 2520? 2016-08-25T13:44:40 < dongs> or "claimed" 12mhz 2016-08-25T13:44:44 < Lux> 2,5mm*2mm 2016-08-25T13:44:56 < dongs> yea i know 2016-08-25T13:45:00 < Tectu> dongs, what's a claimed 12 MHz crystal? :p 2016-08-25T13:45:01 < Lux> http://www.digikey.at/product-detail/de/txc-corporation/8Z-12.000MAAJ-T/887-1487-1-ND/2627055 2016-08-25T13:45:15 < Lux> it says 12 mhz there 2016-08-25T13:45:28 < Lux> i think I'll just go for 24mhz, thanks 2016-08-25T13:45:31 < dongs> well if you got it from digikey then it is yeah 2016-08-25T13:46:09 < jpa-> Lux: note however that if you want to use built-in usb bootloader, it has some limits on the crystal freq 2016-08-25T13:46:43 < dongs> rite, they're in AN2606 2016-08-25T13:46:49 < dongs> but iirc 24 and 25mhz is one of hte valid ones. 2016-08-25T13:49:22 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-25T13:50:13 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T13:51:37 < Lux> it detects the crystal freq automatically, so no problems there 2016-08-25T13:52:54 < jpa-> sure, it detects but only from specific allowed values 2016-08-25T13:57:16 < zyp> for F4, isn't any integer MHz within oscillator range (4-26 or something) a valid value? 2016-08-25T14:00:57 < jpa-> yeah, something like that 2016-08-25T14:01:01 < jpa-> can't remember maximum 2016-08-25T14:01:07 < jpa-> so worth checking 2016-08-25T14:01:23 < zyp> 25 is within oscillator range for sure 2016-08-25T14:01:29 < zyp> I used that once 2016-08-25T14:01:44 < zyp> so I could use same part for ethernet and mcu 2016-08-25T14:04:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T14:04:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-25T14:05:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T14:05:20 < kakimir> http://www.mouser.fi/new/measurement-specialties/measurement-specialties-u5600/?cm_sp=homepage-_-newproducts-_- bluetooth is now good for industry use? 2016-08-25T14:05:28 < kakimir> industrial* 2016-08-25T14:05:33 < kakimir> note .fi link 2016-08-25T14:07:01 < Lux> part of the IoT hype 2016-08-25T14:08:05 -!- nullifiedcat [bcf425ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.244.37.186] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T14:08:12 < nullifiedcat> hello 2016-08-25T14:08:23 < kakimir> is 4.0 suitable for interferrence filled environment like factory? 2016-08-25T14:09:11 < nullifiedcat> i am beginner with stm32f429i 2016-08-25T14:09:38 < dongs> arent we all 2016-08-25T14:09:52 < nullifiedcat> i compiled blink project from eclipse arm defaults 2016-08-25T14:10:18 < nullifiedcat> when it tries to call printf, gdb prints Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. 0x080011ce in ?? () 2016-08-25T14:10:23 < nullifiedcat> and it stops 2016-08-25T14:11:11 < nullifiedcat> any idea how to get it working? 2016-08-25T14:19:14 < kakimir> clear breakpoints and watchpoints 2016-08-25T14:19:59 < nullifiedcat> how to? 2016-08-25T14:20:13 < nullifiedcat> info b says No breakpoints or watchpoints. 2016-08-25T14:21:03 < dongs> why d o you want to printf? 2016-08-25T14:21:08 < dongs> start with that. 2016-08-25T14:21:14 < dekar> nullifiedcat, sounds like a software breakpoint to me. (e.g. asm("bkpt");) 2016-08-25T14:21:48 < nullifiedcat> dongs, well I want to use printf to debug stuff I write 2016-08-25T14:22:15 < dongs> why don't you use... debugger?! 2016-08-25T14:22:21 < dongs> especially if you already have it working 2016-08-25T14:22:32 < nullifiedcat> how to print messages to debugger from c program? 2016-08-25T14:22:39 < dongs> why? 2016-08-25T14:22:46 < dongs> just inspect memory/variables/wahtever that you need to see 2016-08-25T14:22:48 < dongs> instead of printing htem 2016-08-25T14:23:02 < dongs> i mean you could read how to setup semihosting I guess 2016-08-25T14:23:05 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-25T14:23:06 < dongs> if GDB supports that shit 2016-08-25T14:23:12 < dongs> and printf over SWD or wahtever 2016-08-25T14:23:27 < nullifiedcat> so you say it is better to watch variables using debugger than using printf? 2016-08-25T14:24:42 < dongs> to me, sure 2016-08-25T14:27:13 < Tectu> hello nullifiedcat and welcome! 2016-08-25T14:28:09 < nullifiedcat> hello Tectu! 2016-08-25T14:34:36 < karlp> soundsd like you actually set up half of semihosting already 2016-08-25T14:38:15 < nullifiedcat> i will use debugger to watch variables 2016-08-25T14:41:02 < jpa-> semihosting is so slow that pretty useless for debugging IMO 2016-08-25T14:41:17 < jpa-> pauses your whole system for ages and makes anything realtime fail 2016-08-25T14:41:55 < nullifiedcat> yay I can see stuff using gdb 2016-08-25T14:42:08 < nullifiedcat> now I need to understand the example code 2016-08-25T14:42:15 < nullifiedcat> and do something my own 2016-08-25T14:47:50 < Tectu> what are you up to, Mr. nullifiedcat? 2016-08-25T14:48:06 < nullifiedcat> I don't know 2016-08-25T14:48:12 < nullifiedcat> I want to learn the basics first 2016-08-25T14:48:33 < nullifiedcat> then I want to do something cool with LCD 2016-08-25T14:49:37 < Tectu> better add bluetooth too. everything is better with bluetooth. 2016-08-25T14:50:09 < nullifiedcat> what for? 2016-08-25T14:52:13 < dongs> got gigadevices 2016 roadmap 2016-08-25T14:52:19 < dongs> they be cloning more 2016-08-25T14:52:56 < Tectu> isn't it a bit late for a 2016 roadmap? 2016-08-25T14:53:54 < dongs> not if it includes extra cloning info 2016-08-25T14:56:21 < Tectu> better share 2016-08-25T15:03:55 < emeryth> are they going to release CubeGD? 2016-08-25T15:07:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.149.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T15:18:49 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.192] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T15:20:28 -!- nullifiedcat [bcf425ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.244.37.186] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-08-25T15:20:46 < Tectu> CubeGNAA 2016-08-25T15:20:55 < Tectu> dongs approved 2016-08-25T15:21:57 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-25T15:21:58 < wanderman> hello 2016-08-25T15:22:05 < wanderman> glad stm32 running so good 2016-08-25T15:22:10 < Tectu> Welcome & good day to you, Mr. wanderman 2016-08-25T15:22:21 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-25T15:22:38 < Tectu> I am happy to tell you that we are very glad too to hear that stm32 is running so good for you. 2016-08-25T15:22:49 < wanderman> hahah 2016-08-25T15:23:02 < jpa-> we are all happy when Tectu is happy 2016-08-25T15:23:06 < jpa-> so congrats wanderman 2016-08-25T15:23:08 < Tectu> exactly! 2016-08-25T15:23:17 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-25T15:23:23 < Tectu> Happy Tectu Happy World 2016-08-25T15:23:51 < wanderman> my brother used to advice me saying " nobody can make everybody happy " 2016-08-25T15:24:27 < Tectu> obviously your brother has never been to ##stm32 then 2016-08-25T15:24:33 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-25T15:24:54 < wanderman> btw, atmel was purchased by microchip 2016-08-25T15:25:23 < Tectu> wasn't that like 15 years ago? 2016-08-25T15:25:30 < Tectu> (as in like march or something) 2016-08-25T15:25:38 < wanderman> :D 2016-08-25T15:25:57 < wanderman> yeah, but i wasn't in touch with MCU ,so it is new to me 2016-08-25T15:26:11 < Tectu> did you know that there's now a black president? 2016-08-25T15:26:24 < wanderman> nope 2016-08-25T15:26:35 < jpa-> did you know that crt left? 2016-08-25T15:26:39 < Steffann> Im surprised you know. 2016-08-25T15:26:42 < wanderman> btw, who gonna win usa presidentship 2016-08-25T15:27:15 < Tectu> all that doesn't matter any longer, Mr. wanderman. Now you are here, now you will be happy for eternity. Only good things origin from ##stm32 2016-08-25T15:27:16 < wanderman> sorry, i 'm not an educated guy . lol, i had been away from my solder iron for years 2016-08-25T15:27:48 < wanderman> oh cool 2016-08-25T15:27:51 < Tectu> no need to get back to it. the soldering iron got pretty much replaced by conductive chewing gum 2016-08-25T15:28:01 < wanderman> hahahhahha 2016-08-25T15:28:06 < wanderman> thanks to adafruit ? 2016-08-25T15:28:20 < wanderman> she like such fancy stuff 2016-08-25T15:28:30 < Steffann> Tectu stop trolling. 2016-08-25T15:28:49 < Tectu> okay 2016-08-25T15:28:58 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-25T15:29:02 < wanderman> Tectu, being cool 2016-08-25T15:29:14 < Tectu> more like: Tectu, being lazy @ work 2016-08-25T15:29:44 < Steffann> Dont forget to tell you are selfempoyed 2016-08-25T15:29:53 < wanderman> how is halagon colider doing 2016-08-25T15:30:15 < wanderman> world's biggest machine 2016-08-25T15:30:31 < Tectu> stop Steffann 2016-08-25T15:31:20 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-25T15:32:40 < wanderman> Bill gates also selfemplyed 2016-08-25T15:40:25 < kakimir> unemployed 2016-08-25T15:40:59 < Tectu> self-unemployed. sounds like fun. 2016-08-25T15:41:19 < Steffann> Yes. But i need cash for that first 2016-08-25T15:42:16 < Tectu> just print some 2016-08-25T15:42:20 < Tectu> that's how they do it too. 2016-08-25T15:42:26 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-25T15:46:05 < kakimir> how much cash self employement requires? 2016-08-25T15:46:11 < kakimir> slash unemployement 2016-08-25T15:47:23 < Steffann> Depends on your needs 2016-08-25T15:47:26 < Tectu> depends on your geographical & cultural location as well as your needs I guess 2016-08-25T15:47:32 < kakimir> http://img.scoop.it/jv7KAjBdcM8gBtA9PLmXyjl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVvK0kTmF0xjctABnaLJIm9 anyone know ready boards for this design? 2016-08-25T15:47:58 < Tectu> arudino spot welding shield. Neat. 2016-08-25T15:49:26 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T15:53:50 < kakimir> it looks simple enough 2016-08-25T15:55:24 < Tectu> > Can you be autistic about something else? 2016-08-25T15:55:29 < Tectu> best comment on youtube. 2016-08-25T15:57:03 < kakimir> reply for your comment? 2016-08-25T15:57:14 < Tectu> no, not even remotely 2016-08-25T15:57:20 < Tectu> I always only get very good feedback on my comments 2016-08-25T15:57:28 < Tectu> I'm like the swiss version of Ultrasauce 2016-08-25T15:57:47 < Tectu> which, of course, just sounds ridiculous. You can't take swiss german serious 2016-08-25T15:58:59 < Steffann> Best Tectu? If mentioning autism is the best thing you can come up with you are pretty silly. 2016-08-25T15:59:45 < Steffann> 99.9% of the "funny" internet guys do that. 2016-08-25T16:08:30 < wanderman> i think, all MCU willl be replaced by linux supported mcus 2016-08-25T16:08:46 < emeryth> yes, Intel MCUs 2016-08-25T16:09:07 < wanderman> :o 2016-08-25T16:09:09 < emeryth> everybody loves them already 2016-08-25T16:10:39 < wanderman> but, i love arm ISA 2016-08-25T16:10:50 < wanderman> x86 too complex for mcus 2016-08-25T16:15:09 < Tectu> i think, all MCU willl be replaced by linux supported mcus 2016-08-25T16:15:11 < Tectu> what? 2016-08-25T16:18:51 < wanderman> :D 2016-08-25T16:19:06 < wanderman> if wishes were horses beggers would ride 2016-08-25T16:19:08 < wanderman> :P 2016-08-25T16:21:15 < Steffann> I like the way your fingers speak wanderman 2016-08-25T16:22:52 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-25T16:23:04 < wanderman> someone seemingly betrated me 2016-08-25T16:23:10 < wanderman> or you being smart hacker 2016-08-25T16:24:56 < Steffann> Wut? Isnt that a common sentence? 2016-08-25T16:26:14 < wanderman> google says "No" 2016-08-25T16:26:58 < Steffann> But im into poetry. 2016-08-25T16:28:23 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T16:28:27 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T16:29:11 < Rob235> herro 2016-08-25T16:29:36 < Tectu> please watch your language, Rob235. 2016-08-25T16:30:35 < Rob235> sowwy 2016-08-25T16:32:41 < Tectu> lol, well played 2016-08-25T16:34:25 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-25T16:35:56 < Tectu> how is trashing props going, Mr. Rob235 ? 2016-08-25T16:37:03 < Rob235> haven't taken it flying since. I was thinking about going out today but with no spares it may be a short trip 2016-08-25T16:37:22 < Rob235> waiting to order more props 2016-08-25T16:38:15 < wanderman> <-- feeling awesome 2016-08-25T16:38:26 < Rob235> <-- wonders why 2016-08-25T16:38:59 * wanderman update his status "listening to songs " :P 2016-08-25T16:39:48 < Rob235> I wish I got that happy over music 2016-08-25T16:40:16 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T16:41:00 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-25T16:41:27 < Tectu> Rob235, you missed the part where we previously established that everybody in here is happy if Tectu is happy. Would you like to make me happy? 2016-08-25T16:41:53 * Rob235 gets on his knees 2016-08-25T16:42:06 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-25T16:42:13 < Rob235> i'll take one for the team 2016-08-25T16:42:18 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-25T16:43:47 < wanderman> Rob235, cheapest way to make Tectu happy, tickle him on armpit 2016-08-25T16:44:20 < Tectu> that just makes me punch you in the face really hard 2016-08-25T16:44:25 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T16:44:34 * Rob235 gets back on knees 2016-08-25T16:44:36 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T16:44:53 < Rob235> hmm, what to do 2016-08-25T16:46:54 < wanderman> leave him alone 2016-08-25T16:46:55 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-25T16:47:04 < wanderman> he is happy allby himslef 2016-08-25T16:49:45 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKeEYzQ2Fva3FROVE/view?usp=sharing is the charger crap now? 2016-08-25T16:49:56 < kakimir> it wont do anything for that battery 2016-08-25T16:50:50 < Tectu> am I the only one who never really knows what kakimir is doing? 2016-08-25T16:51:11 < Tectu> I mean kakimir posts in here are like reading a blog you don't know the topic of 2016-08-25T16:51:25 < BrainDamage> he doesn't know himself 2016-08-25T16:51:33 < Rob235> kakimir: is it just that battery? 2016-08-25T16:51:38 < kakimir> title: is the charger complete piece of shit? 2016-08-25T16:52:03 < kakimir> Rob235: cells are all alive and matched 2016-08-25T16:52:15 < Rob235> that HK charger has the same UI as mine 2016-08-25T16:52:23 < Rob235> have you tried another battery though? 2016-08-25T16:52:49 < Rob235> you say you tried one battery with one charger, how can you tell if its the battery or the charger 2016-08-25T16:52:55 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKbjNjVF8ySHJQX0k/view?usp=sharing fuck the police 2016-08-25T16:53:56 < Rob235> ahh, I would still try another battery on the charger just to make sure but dunno 2016-08-25T16:54:10 < kakimir> maybmaybe 2016-08-25T16:54:38 < kakimir> fukken trash takes my time 2016-08-25T16:54:58 < wanderman> ```` 2016-08-25T16:55:02 < wanderman> when we go to heaven, if jesus come alone to welcome us , it means jesus is god.. if jesus come with god to welcome us, it means jesus is son of god 2016-08-25T16:55:06 < wanderman> ```` 2016-08-25T16:55:11 < Rob235> are HK chargers just rebranded turnigy's or something? 2016-08-25T16:56:19 < Rob235> what if jesus comes with god but jesus is really a hologram god is creating? 2016-08-25T16:57:15 < wanderman> it says ' god don't lie' 2016-08-25T16:57:31 < wanderman> you can ask god, if this is hologram or real jesus 2016-08-25T16:57:34 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-25T16:58:18 < Rob235> what if god took the form of jesus and created a hologram of himself which can lie and you mistakenly ask the lying hologram if jesus is real or not 2016-08-25T16:59:10 < wanderman> you can just ask, show me where my 7 virgins , that is really matters 2016-08-25T17:00:06 < wanderman> dont' think too complex, 2016-08-25T17:00:09 < Rob235> you are a man with his priorities set, I like it 2016-08-25T17:00:55 < wanderman> hehe 2016-08-25T17:01:26 < wanderman> gtg to have dinner, 2016-08-25T17:01:36 < Tectu> no you don't, it's 4pm 2016-08-25T17:01:36 < wanderman> byebye guys, stay alart 2016-08-25T17:01:44 < wanderman> 7pm 2016-08-25T17:01:50 < Tectu> get your facts right. 2016-08-25T17:01:50 < Rob235> its 10am 2016-08-25T17:01:54 < wanderman> u see my ip wrong ? 2016-08-25T17:02:05 < Tectu> unlike you I don't stalk random people on IRC. 2016-08-25T17:02:19 < wanderman> wow, goodmorning rob 2016-08-25T17:02:34 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-25T17:02:35 < Tectu> are you still on your knees, Mr. Rob? 2016-08-25T17:02:38 < wanderman> you must be opposite of earth 2016-08-25T17:02:43 < Rob235> you can't tell Tectu ? 2016-08-25T17:02:44 < Tectu> yeah, Mars. 2016-08-25T17:02:48 < englishman> i too have a south indian ocean vps 2016-08-25T17:02:52 < Rob235> east coast of USA 2016-08-25T17:03:03 < wanderman> usa is cool country, i love usa people 2016-08-25T17:03:17 < Tectu> Rob235, is it my bad that you suck so hard at sucking that I don't even know that you are sucking? 2016-08-25T17:03:32 < Tectu> well, there are usa people and then there is Rob235 2016-08-25T17:03:41 < Tectu> also known as Mr. Prop 2016-08-25T17:03:41 < Rob235> the best of the best 2016-08-25T17:03:44 < Tectu> indeed 2016-08-25T17:03:48 < englishman> why differentiate 2016-08-25T17:03:51 < englishman> thats segregation Tectu 2016-08-25T17:04:06 < Tectu> Rob235 earned it, englishman 2016-08-25T17:04:07 < englishman> kinnd of like swiss people and europeans 2016-08-25T17:04:10 < englishman> they are one and the same 2016-08-25T17:04:14 < englishman> despite your efforts 2016-08-25T17:04:18 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-25T17:04:36 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-25T17:04:39 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-25T17:04:39 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.192] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-08-25T17:04:49 < englishman> i didnt know they had internet in maldives 2016-08-25T17:04:51 < englishman> just fish 2016-08-25T17:05:06 < Tectu> where there is fish there is porn 2016-08-25T17:09:48 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-25T17:27:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.247] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T17:37:00 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T17:37:14 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T17:37:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.160.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-25T17:43:12 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T17:47:30 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-096-165.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-25T18:01:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.129.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-25T18:01:46 < Tectu> oh cool, another indian guy wants to optimize my SEO stuff for only 250$ 2016-08-25T18:01:47 < Laurenceb__> rageeee 2016-08-25T18:01:57 < Laurenceb__> some of my LSM9DS1 sensors have failed 2016-08-25T18:02:11 < Laurenceb__> ah well currently I'm doing no worse than iphone6 2016-08-25T18:02:28 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T18:02:54 < Laurenceb__> I have a cunning plan: tin LSM9DS1 pads with solder before reflowing 2016-08-25T18:05:04 < Laurenceb__> the LGA pads are ENIG, and I've never had good results reflowing ENIG 2016-08-25T18:06:05 < aandrew> Laurenceb__: that works well 2016-08-25T18:06:12 < aandrew> the LSM9D has ridiculously tiny pads 2016-08-25T18:06:43 < Tectu> can't you just do that stuff @ dongsfab? 2016-08-25T18:07:07 < Laurenceb__> I could send it to fab for just the lsm 2016-08-25T18:07:08 < Laurenceb__> lol 2016-08-25T18:07:28 < Laurenceb__> cant be bothered to organise pick and place for everything else 2016-08-25T18:07:46 < Laurenceb__> aandrew: yeah but alignment doesnt seem to have been the issue 2016-08-25T18:08:06 < Laurenceb__> from around the edges of the ic everything looks perfect 2016-08-25T18:08:13 < aandrew> Laurenceb__: with SMT alignment is generally a non-issue as long as you're half-ass accurate, the solder will suck the part into alignment 2016-08-25T18:08:20 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-25T18:08:41 < Laurenceb__> when I had this issue on a board before I took off the lsm with hot air 2016-08-25T18:08:52 < englishman> Laurenceb__: for lga i like to fill the pcb's pads with solder 2016-08-25T18:08:54 < englishman> then hotair 2016-08-25T18:08:56 < englishman> and let it float 2016-08-25T18:09:01 < englishman> if you push down they will short 2016-08-25T18:09:03 < Laurenceb__> some of the ENIG pads seemed to have oxidised and not tinned properly when reflowed 2016-08-25T18:09:35 < Laurenceb__> yeah I reflowed with an M3 nut on top before, but that was with a poor footprint 2016-08-25T18:09:55 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T18:09:57 < Laurenceb__> I'll try the pre tinned pads idea first 2016-08-25T18:10:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-25T18:10:51 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T18:13:31 < aandrew> wtf 2016-08-25T18:13:33 < aandrew> ENIG oxidized? 2016-08-25T18:13:42 < aandrew> doesn't sound like ENIG 2016-08-25T18:13:43 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-25T18:13:57 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-25T18:13:58 < aandrew> the whole point of that is because gold doesn't readily oxidize and you get a nice flat pad to boot 2016-08-25T18:15:20 < aandrew> I want ot find out who decided that ifconfig belongs in /sbin and strangle them with a CAT5 cable 2016-08-25T18:24:46 -!- skroon_ [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T18:24:47 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T18:32:45 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T18:38:38 < Laurenceb__> well I've never had good results with gold 2016-08-25T18:39:02 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-25T18:39:06 < Laurenceb__> also the LSM9DS1 moisture sensitivity is high, indicating pad oxidation issues 2016-08-25T18:39:49 < aandrew> Laurenceb__: ok, but that's the part itself, not the board 2016-08-25T18:39:58 < aandrew> the part doesn't have gold pins/pads 2016-08-25T18:40:04 < Laurenceb__> oh 2016-08-25T18:40:09 < Laurenceb__> looked like it to 2016-08-25T18:40:16 < Laurenceb__> *looked like it to me 2016-08-25T18:41:00 < Laurenceb__> it seems to have thin fr4 carrier board, presumably with wire bonded sensors on the top 2016-08-25T18:42:12 < Laurenceb__> lots of ST mems seem to use that assembly method 2016-08-25T18:42:22 < aandrew> hm, maybe I am thinking of a different part. the ST accelerometer I have used is definitely not a FR4 mini board 2016-08-25T18:44:10 < Laurenceb__> yeah its def not on all their parts 2016-08-25T18:44:28 < Laurenceb__> but some of my accels seem to be basically an FR4 module 2016-08-25T18:45:01 < englishman> you violated humidity spec 2016-08-25T18:45:10 < englishman> those digikey packs come with the blue shit for a reason! 2016-08-25T18:46:22 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T18:50:03 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-25T18:57:29 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T18:58:47 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-149-190-135.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-25T18:59:01 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:02:02 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T19:03:13 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:03:17 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:04:14 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:05:36 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-25T19:06:18 < kakimir> http://img.scoop.it/jv7KAjBdcM8gBtA9PLmXyjl72eJkfbmt4t8yenImKBVvK0kTmF0xjctABnaLJIm9 why there is 5volt tvs? 2016-08-25T19:06:40 < kakimir> to optoisolator emitter 2016-08-25T19:07:02 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:07:43 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:11:14 < Rob235> I'm confused, I have 580kv motors, say they produce 1.3 kg thrust with 13" props then thats 6x1.3=7.8 kg / 3.35 kg (AUW) = 2.3, isn't that low? did I do something wrong? 2016-08-25T19:17:47 < aandrew> kakimir: you couldn't have linked a smaller pic 2016-08-25T19:18:22 < kakimir> sorry 2016-08-25T19:18:23 < Rob235> oh I guess thats normal with larger copters 2016-08-25T19:19:29 < karlp> Rob235: is that meant to be some sort of magic ratio? 2016-08-25T19:19:47 < Rob235> what do you mean 2016-08-25T19:20:20 < karlp> why are you trying to get a ratio of vehicle mass and mass thrust? 2016-08-25T19:20:27 < karlp> (isn't thrust meant to be in newtons anyway?) 2016-08-25T19:20:41 < karlp> is there some "guideline" that says the ratio must be >= x? 2016-08-25T19:21:24 < Rob235> in my initial research I saw that 4:1 thrust:weight was a good number to go for but apparently that only applies to smaller quads 2016-08-25T19:21:56 < karlp> not sure how you could come up with any meaningful guidance for a figure like that honestly. 2016-08-25T19:21:56 < Rob235> well obviously you want it above 1:1 so that it can at least hover :) 2016-08-25T19:21:59 < karlp> not my field sure. 2016-08-25T19:22:44 < Rob235> just shows how fast it will be or how much additional weight you can carry 2016-08-25T19:23:21 < karlp> is "fast" really going to be purely on that ratio? 2016-08-25T19:23:51 < Rob235> I don't know that much about this stuff either but I think it would be a pretty good estimate 2016-08-25T19:24:03 < karlp> I guess 2016-08-25T19:29:49 -!- Steffanx [~steffanx@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T19:31:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:6d5d:7cd8:afff:681d] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:34:05 < Tectu> this DSI is creeping me out. 2016-08-25T19:34:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.187] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:35:46 < Tectu> is anybody in the mood for some raging? 2016-08-25T19:35:58 -!- Lerg [~Lerg@188.226.45.254] has quit [] 2016-08-25T19:38:40 < Rob235> http://www.mytoyz.wrong17.com/images/tarot/build/07.jpg 2016-08-25T19:38:44 < Rob235> what is that gps in? 2016-08-25T19:48:47 < boB_K7IQ> interesting machine 2016-08-25T19:49:33 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-14-21.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:50:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:50:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-25T19:50:26 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-181-83.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-25T19:55:22 -!- steffanx [~quassel@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:55:22 -!- steffanx [~quassel@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-25T19:56:18 -!- steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:57:54 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-142-199.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T19:58:46 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-14-21.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-25T20:14:19 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T20:15:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T20:44:20 < englishman> Rob235: yes that is pretty low, but probably fine for what you want, it'll be slow to climb and might have trouble in wind. 2016-08-25T20:48:17 < Rob235> looking at some stuff it might be closer to 3:1 but yea should be fine either way 2016-08-25T20:51:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-25T21:22:15 < kakimir> anyone have any STM32F107RBT6 2016-08-25T21:22:19 < kakimir> ? 2016-08-25T21:23:39 < kakimir> LQFP64 2016-08-25T21:25:03 < kakimir> totally nice mcu and wont be sold as single units 2016-08-25T21:27:40 < steffanx> uhm kakimir? 2016-08-25T21:28:24 < kakimir> mouser wants me to buy by quantity of 960 2016-08-25T21:28:26 < kakimir> units 2016-08-25T21:29:02 < steffanx> but there is more then mouser 2016-08-25T21:29:44 < kakimir> sure 2016-08-25T21:30:05 < kakimir> in muricas 2016-08-25T21:30:18 < steffanx> digikey ships too finnishland too 2016-08-25T21:30:20 < kakimir> http://www.findchips.com/search/STM32F107RBT6 2016-08-25T21:30:31 < kakimir> digikey goes by quantity of 1000 too 2016-08-25T21:30:49 < kakimir> oh 2016-08-25T21:30:54 < kakimir> 1pcs whops 2016-08-25T21:31:50 < steffanx> farnell says: no longer stocked.. interesting 2016-08-25T21:32:41 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T21:34:58 < kakimir> that is 107 chip wiyh ethernet if my notes are correct 2016-08-25T21:35:07 < kakimir> RMII 2016-08-25T21:37:09 < kakimir> ordering shit for projects 2016-08-25T21:37:50 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-08-25T21:40:16 -!- ntfreak [~ntfreak@unaffiliated/ntfreak] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T21:43:38 < englishman> guess what, st has all this chips and only makes like 10 of them 2016-08-25T21:43:56 < englishman> everything else is like 1k moq or $15 each from china 2016-08-25T21:47:30 < kakimir> yes 2016-08-25T21:47:42 < kakimir> activelly manufs. 10 chips 2016-08-25T21:48:13 < steffanx> cube can tell you what alternatives you have with ethernet kakimir 2016-08-25T21:48:31 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has quit [Quit: offline] 2016-08-25T21:49:11 < kakimir> fuk cube 2016-08-25T21:49:39 < kakimir> I'm not touchin that nice stuff 2016-08-25T21:50:15 < steffanx> -_- 2016-08-25T21:51:03 < steffanx> People ever tell you you are weird kakimir? 2016-08-25T21:51:29 < kakimir> only you steffanx 2016-08-25T21:51:45 < Tectu> trust me, you're the only one who gets that from him 2016-08-25T21:51:46 < steffanx> must be the truth then 2016-08-25T21:54:05 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T21:58:07 < kakimir> I need low Iq high voltage linear regulator 2016-08-25T21:58:23 < kakimir> by low Iq I mean like under 20mikro 2016-08-25T21:58:44 < kakimir> and by high voltage something around 60volts at least 2016-08-25T22:00:02 < kakimir> low Iq buck is also accepted 2016-08-25T22:00:15 < kakimir> if it does 60volts or so 2016-08-25T22:00:54 < kakimir> most of the time only thing it does is powering nanopower comparator 2016-08-25T22:01:29 < kakimir> there is option for auxlaries powered when comparator output is high 2016-08-25T22:01:40 < kakimir> *auxiliaries 2016-08-25T22:03:01 < Tectu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZ4WI1Bx28 2016-08-25T22:03:07 < Tectu> attn Laurenceb__ ^ 2016-08-25T22:04:40 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:04:58 < Laurenceb__> oh god TempleOS 2016-08-25T22:05:04 < Laurenceb__> literally oh god 2016-08-25T22:05:33 < Laurenceb__> lul infinity 2016-08-25T22:06:10 < Laurenceb__> heh I remember that sim 2016-08-25T22:07:04 < Laurenceb__> that is actually pretty epic 2016-08-25T22:07:34 < Tectu> now you two can become high altitude bros 2016-08-25T22:08:43 < Laurenceb__> he seems to have regained his sanity 2016-08-25T22:09:05 < Tectu> seems like carabia was successful 2016-08-25T22:10:04 < Laurenceb__> carabia? Is that a form of Lobotomy? 2016-08-25T22:10:25 < Tectu> lul 2016-08-25T22:10:28 < Tectu> better read logs then 2016-08-25T22:10:32 < Tectu> or ask steffanx 2016-08-25T22:14:26 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:14:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T22:14:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:14:55 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T22:16:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.116.95] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:17:58 < kakimir> how you power your stuff from really high direct current? 2016-08-25T22:18:11 < kakimir> like 480VDC voltage rail or something 2016-08-25T22:18:33 < kakimir> or actually how to boot the supply? 2016-08-25T22:18:40 < Laurenceb__> I thought you were talkign about how TempleOS guy regained his sanity 2016-08-25T22:18:58 < Laurenceb__> unless he was just trolling with the biblical operating system stuff 2016-08-25T22:19:24 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-25T22:20:13 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, nah, carabia (some finnish dude that was here before) had an argument with r2com, readerror and some other people that were here (including steffanx and the mighty Tectu) about that TempleOS guy needing serious help, being racist and violent and stuff I didn't quite followed because I never read his blogs 2016-08-25T22:21:06 < Laurenceb__> lul @ "never read his blogs" 2016-08-25T22:21:09 < steffanx> Or not ask me 2016-08-25T22:21:19 < Laurenceb__> "rage rage rage... read my blog to find out more" 2016-08-25T22:22:37 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-25T22:23:02 < Laurenceb__> Written in‎: ‎HolyC 2016-08-25T22:23:04 < Laurenceb__> my sides 2016-08-25T22:23:30 < kakimir> http://www.linear.com/product/LT3991 noice 2016-08-25T22:24:42 < aandrew> HolyC? heh 2016-08-25T22:25:04 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:28:23 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:28:36 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:28:42 -!- skroon_ [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T22:29:19 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adaf6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:29:32 < Laurenceb__> http://images.vice.com/motherboard/content-images/contentimage/17117/1416876644603297.gif 2016-08-25T22:30:32 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:33:16 < ReadMobl> Laurenceb__: seen his 'daily' thing about the naggers? 2016-08-25T22:33:19 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-25T22:33:23 < ReadMobl> pretty fucked up shit 2016-08-25T22:33:35 < ReadMobl> and nasty child stuff 2016-08-25T22:33:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.161.187] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-25T22:34:02 < Laurenceb__> no worse than this channel :D 2016-08-25T22:34:22 < Laurenceb__> https://twitter.com/templeos/status/483645496951848961?lang=en-gb 2016-08-25T22:34:26 < Steffann> No worse because you are hete. 2016-08-25T22:34:34 < Steffann> Here. 2016-08-25T22:34:38 < Tectu> wtf is a "CIA Nigger"? 2016-08-25T22:35:30 < Laurenceb__> we wont find out cuz he ran them over 2016-08-25T22:35:53 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-25T22:36:06 < Tectu> omg, just scroll through those tweets... 2016-08-25T22:36:30 < Laurenceb__> https://twitter.com/TempleOS/status/753990406036008960?lang=en-gb 2016-08-25T22:36:54 < Tectu> lol the follow-up tweet on that 2016-08-25T22:37:58 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-25T22:41:00 < Laurenceb__> my life https://twitter.com/TempleOS/status/738529305790013441?lang=en-gb 2016-08-25T22:41:36 < Tectu> imagine that guy being your father 2016-08-25T22:41:47 < Tectu> holy shit that would make for some nice school-teacher-parent evenings. 2016-08-25T22:42:56 < Laurenceb__> lul https://twitter.com/TempleOS/status/682387717007740929?lang=en-gb 2016-08-25T22:44:32 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:44:56 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T22:44:59 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-25T22:49:33 < ReadMobl> wtf 2016-08-25T22:55:22 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-25T22:56:15 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-25T23:05:52 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T23:07:27 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T23:15:09 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-25T23:15:27 < Laurenceb__> the solidenergy paper 2016-08-25T23:15:28 < Laurenceb__> http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms7362 2016-08-25T23:15:31 < Laurenceb__> seems legit 2016-08-25T23:16:06 < Laurenceb__> tl;dr: nobody bothered to look at changing concentration of salts in electrolyte solvent rather than pissing about forever with exotic salts 2016-08-25T23:16:44 < Laurenceb__> so they can easily double lithium battery capacity and get several times the cycle life 2016-08-25T23:20:33 < kakimir> how soon it will hit the market? 2016-08-25T23:22:31 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T23:28:28 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-25T23:28:59 < Steffann> If ever. 2016-08-25T23:30:38 < Tectu> I bought a few backs of eneloops the other day (also some varta high-end crap). They claim that they do 500 cycles. those are your regular NiMH batteries, not Lithium. How do lithium batteries like those regular cylindrical onces used in cars compare to that? 2016-08-25T23:30:45 < Tectu> would be pretty shitty if you can charge your car only 1000 times 2016-08-25T23:31:21 < kakimir> so texas alternative for regulator I was looking for is LM4600X series 2016-08-25T23:31:59 < kakimir> should have known 2016-08-25T23:32:10 < kakimir> there is *2 in my led board to drive fan 2016-08-25T23:32:32 < kakimir> 2amp one obiviously 2016-08-25T23:34:36 < Steffann> *2 what? Two amp one what? Regulator? 2016-08-25T23:35:29 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T23:35:33 < Steffann> Why you make it so hard for us to understand you? Or are you just talking to yourself out loud kakimir? 2016-08-25T23:35:47 < Tectu> kakimir is finnish version of TempleOS guy 2016-08-25T23:35:52 < Tectu> satan speaks through kakimir 2016-08-25T23:36:43 < Steffann> No satan would make sense. 2016-08-25T23:36:55 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-25T23:38:00 < Laurenceb__> Tectu: lithium is around 85% after 1000 cycles 2016-08-25T23:38:13 < Laurenceb__> then usually v dead at some point past 2000 cycles 2016-08-25T23:38:13 < englishman> Tectu: lmgtfy 2016-08-25T23:38:48 < Laurenceb__> so thats about 500k miles in a Tesla, similar to a diesel engine 2016-08-25T23:39:13 < Laurenceb__> not too bad, but poor battery storage conditions can kill it much more quickly 2016-08-25T23:39:31 < Steffann> Not if you have one of those volvos that does 1M 2016-08-25T23:39:33 < englishman> ^ thats why leafs are lasting like 50k 2016-08-25T23:39:34 < Tectu> okay, thanks Mr. Laurenceb__ 2016-08-25T23:40:02 < englishman> my volvo aint gonna do 1m 2016-08-25T23:40:27 < Steffann> Newish volvo? 2016-08-25T23:40:45 < englishman> new enough to not look like a cardboard box with a windshield 2016-08-25T23:40:48 < PeterM> englishman, leaf capacity is only down like 20% from cycles at 50k, the rest is temp and shelf life related 2016-08-25T23:41:01 < kakimir> http://www.ti.com/product/lm46000-q1 2016-08-25T23:41:08 < englishman> yeah PeterM thats what Laurenceb__ was referring to 2016-08-25T23:41:26 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T23:41:36 < PeterM> ya, but i think thats fairly decent 2016-08-25T23:41:44 < PeterM> 50k is 500 cycles~ 2016-08-25T23:42:23 < Laurenceb__> but it would have to be a piss poor IC engine to be dead after only 50k 2016-08-25T23:42:47 < PeterM> that is true 2016-08-25T23:42:50 < Laurenceb__> aiui Tesla have heaters in their batteries 2016-08-25T23:43:04 < PeterM> yes 2016-08-25T23:43:16 < Laurenceb__> but I thought it was high temperatures that are the worst, I suspect its partly to lower internal resistance 2016-08-25T23:43:19 < PeterM> but the thing that is worst for cells is storage in HOT HOT climates 2016-08-25T23:43:22 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-25T23:44:04 < PeterM> the pack temperature management are to get better power density nad better energy density 2016-08-25T23:44:10 < Laurenceb__> ironically although Tesla may be arguably ok value for money as far as cell degradation goes 2016-08-25T23:44:22 < Laurenceb__> it kills any hope of hyperloop being economical 2016-08-25T23:44:41 < PeterM> hyperloop was never going to be economical 2016-08-25T23:44:50 < Laurenceb__> also half the hyperloop pods are charging at any time, like wtf 2016-08-25T23:44:52 < Laurenceb__> yup 2016-08-25T23:45:22 < Laurenceb__> well every aspect of hyperloop is fail 2016-08-25T23:46:52 < Laurenceb__> I redesigned hyperloop, in my redesign its a conventional railway with +-10kv DC run down the rails and concrete sewer pipe with interconnections every 100m or so 2016-08-25T23:47:38 < Laurenceb__> then it might actually be a practical idea 2016-08-25T23:49:34 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-25T23:50:35 < kakimir> that thing is called a subway? 2016-08-25T23:51:00 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-25T23:51:39 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-25T23:53:11 < kakimir> can't they make hyperloop some kind of quick commute to city center and back? 2016-08-25T23:53:46 < Laurenceb__> I think the idea was for distances between 100 and 1000km 2016-08-25T23:53:58 < kakimir> beat airliner? 2016-08-25T23:54:01 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-25T23:54:11 < Laurenceb__> a subway is too slow 2016-08-25T23:54:41 < Laurenceb__> but bombardier have already made active bogie steering that can go up to 600km/h or so 2016-08-25T23:54:56 < kakimir> ? 2016-08-25T23:55:01 < kakimir> tell me about it 2016-08-25T23:55:05 < Laurenceb__> so a normal railway can go almost as fast as hyperloop 2016-08-25T23:55:30 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesion_railway#Directional_stability_and_hunting_instability 2016-08-25T23:55:30 < ds2> we need a transporter 2016-08-25T23:55:35 < Laurenceb__> it solves this problem 2016-08-25T23:55:48 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-25T23:57:26 < Laurenceb__> the idea of pods is good as it means you dont have to wait long, even when there are few passengers, but 600km/h uses a lot of energy due to drag unless the train is very long 2016-08-25T23:57:46 < Laurenceb__> so an evacuated tube makes a lot of sense 2016-08-25T23:58:12 < Laurenceb__> everything else about hyperloop is silly 2016-08-25T23:58:52 < kakimir> could commute between city center and suburbs be done with ground launched gliders Laurenceb__? 2016-08-25T23:58:56 < kakimir> automatic flight 2016-08-25T23:59:18 < Laurenceb__> lul --- Day changed Fri Aug 26 2016 2016-08-26T00:00:02 < kakimir> no need for roads and shit 2016-08-26T00:00:44 < kakimir> flywheel driven tow launch system 2016-08-26T00:01:30 < kakimir> some kind of rails to it so it can not mess up at start 2016-08-26T00:01:45 < Tectu> can't we just upscale Rob235's copter to lift a person to get around town? 2016-08-26T00:01:59 < kakimir> you need power source on board 2016-08-26T00:02:01 < kakimir> weight 2016-08-26T00:02:02 < Tectu> it would also solve the problem of over-population 2016-08-26T00:02:05 < kakimir> money 2016-08-26T00:02:07 < kakimir> expences 2016-08-26T00:02:09 < Tectu> you don't get the joke :p 2016-08-26T00:02:48 < gjm> r/24 2016-08-26T00:03:23 < kakimir> glider could do like... 300kmh cruise speed 2016-08-26T00:04:37 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T00:05:03 < kakimir> could such system stay intact if it would have take-off and landing every 30minutes per plane 2016-08-26T00:05:13 < kakimir> for years 2016-08-26T00:05:50 < kakimir> part lifetime calculations for everything 2016-08-26T00:07:57 < kakimir> service rig system that does with minimal human involvement local glider service 2016-08-26T00:08:08 < kakimir> local fleet maintenance 2016-08-26T00:08:53 < Laurenceb__> seems totally practical 2016-08-26T00:08:54 < Laurenceb__> /s 2016-08-26T00:10:22 < kakimir> so parts are send from some service center right to aerodrome area 2016-08-26T00:11:44 < Tectu> how come you are still talking about this?!?!?! 2016-08-26T00:12:11 < kakimir> to bore you? 2016-08-26T00:13:55 < kakimir> because future man 2016-08-26T00:23:57 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T00:25:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.116.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-26T00:26:08 < kakimir> over time all kinds of renovations are not only possible 2016-08-26T00:27:59 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-26T00:28:43 < Laurenceb__> Are you a Creationist? 2016-08-26T00:28:44 < Laurenceb__> I am an evolutionist. 2016-08-26T00:28:52 < Laurenceb__> even TempleOS guy isnt that crazy 2016-08-26T00:30:44 < Laurenceb__> The Brits are moving to ban "hacking tools". Take my unassembler from my cold 2016-08-26T00:30:44 < Laurenceb__> dead hands. NRA is for guns; IRA is for computers. 2016-08-26T00:30:47 < Laurenceb__> irl lol 2016-08-26T00:44:29 < kakimir> is establishment afraid of people that can understand gadgets? 2016-08-26T00:45:01 < kakimir> establishment is people who understand how to hack people 2016-08-26T00:53:47 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-26T00:56:30 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-26T01:02:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-26T01:03:47 < kakimir> is there difference betweeen do214ab and do214ab-2? 2016-08-26T01:05:26 < kakimir> or is it just telling there is 2pins in the package? 2016-08-26T01:06:25 < kakimir> brainfart 2016-08-26T01:38:04 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-26T01:50:36 < Laurenceb__> anyone know how big a download Qt is? 2016-08-26T01:50:45 < Tectu> the SDK? 2016-08-26T01:50:54 < Laurenceb__> trying to install it on windozer, says 7GB drive space O_o 2016-08-26T01:50:55 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-26T01:51:13 < Laurenceb__> dont want to use all my download allowance 2016-08-26T01:51:18 < Tectu> on my windows 10 I have Qt 5.7 with the "built-in" MinGW compiler and it's 4 GB 2016-08-26T01:51:23 < Tectu> 7 GB sounds reasonable 2016-08-26T01:51:39 < Tectu> note that my 4GB is w/o all the extra stuff (dedicated modules, mobile support and so on, it's only the core lib) 2016-08-26T01:51:45 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-26T01:51:54 < Laurenceb__> so it depends how well it compresses 2016-08-26T01:51:55 < Tectu> hmm, I can probably create a zip and send it to you. 2016-08-26T01:52:01 < Laurenceb__> guess I can always cancel 2016-08-26T01:52:09 < Tectu> they use .7z 2016-08-26T01:52:14 < Laurenceb__> its ok, unlikely to be smaller than their downloader 2016-08-26T01:52:15 < Tectu> afaik that's smaller than zip 2016-08-26T01:52:18 < Laurenceb__> ok 2016-08-26T01:52:21 < Tectu> I was just kidding anyway :p 2016-08-26T01:52:31 < Tectu> download allowance? Is this mobile phone? 2016-08-26T01:52:42 < Laurenceb__> nope 2016-08-26T01:52:49 < Laurenceb__> but I only have 20GB/month 2016-08-26T01:53:19 < Tectu> what? 2016-08-26T01:53:20 < Tectu> why? 2016-08-26T01:53:24 < Laurenceb__> cuz cheap 2016-08-26T01:53:27 < Tectu> how come you post so much shit then?!?!?! 2016-08-26T01:53:32 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-26T01:53:33 < Tectu> that has to be sourced from somewhere, no? 2016-08-26T01:53:50 < Tectu> you are weird. 2016-08-26T01:54:12 < Laurenceb__> oh well I'll try and hope for the best 2016-08-26T01:55:38 < Tectu> just deselect all the QtWebEngine, iOS, Android.... stuff 2016-08-26T01:57:32 < Laurenceb__> looks like 3.6GB 2016-08-26T01:57:36 < Laurenceb__> yeah already did 2016-08-26T01:58:06 < Tectu> yeah, and size-on-disk is 3.94 GB 2016-08-26T02:09:51 < Laurenceb__> 15% downloaded :( 2016-08-26T02:28:46 < Laurenceb__> time to read sonichu.com whilst waiting 2016-08-26T02:32:55 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T02:44:17 < karlp> zyp: no uart examples in laks at all? 2016-08-26T02:45:19 < zyp> hmm, let's see 2016-08-26T02:46:20 < karlp> heh, I like how "add f3 support for usart" is "drop all the useful functions" : http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/commit/?id=7b4ba03bc45dfed09759b9d0f99f6ddfde51ac43 2016-08-26T02:47:07 < karlp> your technique of having everything in separate branches is cute, but hard to search. 2016-08-26T02:47:48 < zyp> those functions were not compatible with the new register names 2016-08-26T02:47:58 < karlp> well yeah, I know :) 2016-08-26T02:48:02 < zyp> and apparently not useful enough to get parallel implementations, idk 2016-08-26T02:49:15 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/RG1HR <- here's some typical actual code 2016-08-26T02:49:25 < zyp> for L0 2016-08-26T02:49:33 < zyp> sets up an uart for RS485 2016-08-26T02:54:21 < karlp> that's about where I was up to so far :) 2016-08-26T02:54:36 < karlp> how are you doing rs485 driver enable? 2016-08-26T02:54:54 < zyp> through the hardware feature 2016-08-26T02:55:05 < zyp> some of those bits enable that 2016-08-26T02:55:31 < zyp> idk why I haven't named those in a comment, usually I do nowadays 2016-08-26T02:56:15 < karlp> oh yeah, l0/f0/f3 has that as a built in feature 2016-08-26T02:56:22 < karlp> I've never gotten to use them yet :) 2016-08-26T02:56:49 < zyp> it's nice 2016-08-26T02:57:26 < karlp> 31 << 21? 2016-08-26T02:57:32 < karlp> you're such a meany 2016-08-26T02:57:37 < karlp> who knows decimal bitmaps 2016-08-26T02:58:36 < karlp> but yeah, ok, they're "values" 2016-08-26T03:02:30 < karlp> neat, netbeans just happily imports sconstruct file no question 2016-08-26T03:06:06 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-26T03:09:10 < zyp> uh, if they are bitmaps I'd use hex 2016-08-26T03:09:16 < zyp> so I think they would be numbers 2016-08-26T03:10:25 < zyp> yeah, it's driver enable assertion/deassertion time 2016-08-26T03:10:40 < zyp> 31 is max value 2016-08-26T03:12:17 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/UxjBR <- now with comments 2016-08-26T03:20:26 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T03:32:51 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-26T03:33:25 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T03:49:54 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-26T04:14:06 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T04:19:39 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-26T04:29:38 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T04:59:43 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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The steam thing 2016-08-26T09:05:18 < upgrdman> im not ask how the gtx1080 has so much bandwidth 2016-08-26T09:05:31 < upgrdman> Steffann, ah ok. will confirm request 2016-08-26T09:05:47 < upgrdman> im asking why an i7 might ever be bottlenecked my its memory bandwidth 2016-08-26T09:06:01 < PeterM> oh, it wont 2016-08-26T09:06:16 < PeterM> it will only be limited by its LATENCY 2016-08-26T09:06:44 < jpa-> upgrdman: isn't i7 multicore? 2016-08-26T09:07:08 < upgrdman> oh shit 2016-08-26T09:07:09 < upgrdman> ya, lol 2016-08-26T09:07:52 < upgrdman> ok that makes sense. if all cores are dicking with RAM, that'd be a hell of a bottleneck 2016-08-26T09:07:55 < jpa-> probably it also has 50GB/s of memory bus bandwidth, but actual transfer rate from memory depends on the RAM also and can be significantly lower 2016-08-26T09:07:59 < PeterM> in reality and i7 wont be bandwidth limited though, it will suffer much mroe from latency, it takes a huge number of clocks to get to the ram 2016-08-26T09:08:12 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-26T09:08:38 < jpa-> (but even if the memory is slow, it makes sense to have fast bus so as not to add any extra latency there) 2016-08-26T09:09:26 < PeterM> https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/intel-manycore-testing-lab/topic/287236 2016-08-26T09:11:22 < upgrdman> PeterM, whats "remote" in that guys response? 2016-08-26T09:11:53 < PeterM> dram on another processor,connected by QPI 2016-08-26T09:12:46 < upgrdman> processor = physical one, not just a core, right? 2016-08-26T09:15:44 < PeterM> correct 2016-08-26T09:16:16 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-26T09:17:21 < PeterM> note it is RE: a xeon 5500, which is desigend for dual processor systems 2016-08-26T09:17:33 < upgrdman> ballpark memeory latency of gtx1080 or any modern gpu? 2016-08-26T09:17:40 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-26T09:19:46 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-26T09:20:51 < PeterM> no idea but i'd estimate less than half what it is for an exuivilent era cpu 2016-08-26T09:20:55 < PeterM> equivilent 2016-08-26T09:21:08 < upgrdman> k 2016-08-26T09:21:32 < jpa-> could also be much more tractable for prefetching 2016-08-26T09:25:58 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T09:27:59 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T09:30:26 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-26T09:31:13 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-26T09:38:22 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-26T09:40:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T09:53:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.23] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T10:06:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-26T10:32:40 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-26T10:33:39 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T10:34:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.129.87] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T10:40:41 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T10:58:13 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adaf6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-26T11:12:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-200.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T11:28:47 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T11:36:44 -!- skroon [~skroon@541F1FA3.cm-5-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-26T12:26:38 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T12:32:10 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-26T12:32:24 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T12:32:25 < Laurenceb__> channers exposed http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37021991 2016-08-26T12:43:17 < Steffann> I lovd you Laurenceb__ 2016-08-26T12:43:23 < Steffann> Love* 2016-08-26T12:43:50 < Laurenceb__> it's worrying that I know some of those ppl from uni O_o 2016-08-26T12:45:11 < Steffann> No it's not. It means you are/were in the right place 2016-08-26T12:45:33 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-26T12:46:09 < Laurenceb__> but voting for trump would put me in the same category as flyback 2016-08-26T12:46:15 < Laurenceb__> that can't be a good thing 2016-08-26T12:48:47 < Steffann> You dont want an urban dictionary entry? 2016-08-26T12:49:42 < Laurenceb__> lulno 2016-08-26T12:54:14 -!- danielinux is now known as dan 2016-08-26T12:55:48 -!- dan is now known as danielinux 2016-08-26T13:01:14 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-26T13:02:18 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-102-200.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T13:04:24 -!- skroon [~skroon@095-097-081-196.static.chello.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T13:07:42 -!- skroon [~skroon@095-097-081-196.static.chello.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-26T13:24:00 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T13:29:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.155.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T13:30:58 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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2016-08-26T16:46:56 < Lux> the adc input resistance is in the order of tens of kiloohms 2016-08-26T16:47:06 < Laurenceb> not quite 2016-08-26T16:47:15 < Laurenceb> its capacitive and depends on sample rate 2016-08-26T16:47:15 < Ecco> I don't get it 2016-08-26T16:47:20 < Lux> depending on the sample speed -> see datasheet 2016-08-26T16:47:22 < Laurenceb> I used 2 x 10k 2016-08-26T16:47:30 < Laurenceb> works very well 2016-08-26T16:47:48 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-26T16:47:52 < Lux> you probably need a cap to buffer it, then it could work 2016-08-26T16:48:05 < Lux> if you don't sample anything else 2016-08-26T16:48:08 < Ecco> http://i.imgur.com/C8NhkuW.png 2016-08-26T16:48:13 < Ecco> here's the current schematics 2016-08-26T16:48:16 < Laurenceb> yeah 2 x 10k with 100n to gnd 2016-08-26T16:48:36 < Laurenceb> that should work at low sample rate 2016-08-26T16:48:56 < Ecco> I've never used the ADC 2016-08-26T16:48:59 < Lux> Ecco: if that's the only thing you measure on the adc it should work even with 1meg 2016-08-26T16:49:10 < Ecco> Yeah that's the only thing I'm using the ADC for 2016-08-26T16:49:13 < Lux> the 100n cap will buffer your voltage sufficiently 2016-08-26T16:49:21 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-26T16:49:33 < Ecco> I quite don't understand how it works 2016-08-26T16:49:38 < Laurenceb> it should work at low sample rate 2016-08-26T16:49:41 < Lux> the internal sampling cap is only 10pf or so 2016-08-26T16:49:59 < Ecco> First and foremost, why are we talking about a sample rate 2016-08-26T16:50:08 < Ecco> I'll sample like once every 10 min or something like that 2016-08-26T16:50:15 < Lux> Ecco: read the reference manual/datasheet and you'll know 2016-08-26T16:50:17 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-26T16:51:46 < Lux> https://www.embeddedrelated.com/showarticle/110.php 2016-08-26T16:52:14 < Lux> didn't read it, but seems like a sufficient explanation at the first glance 2016-08-26T16:53:06 < Ecco> I see 2016-08-26T16:53:33 < Ecco> ok, I understand : there's a single ADC, and issues may arise because it's multiplexed 2016-08-26T16:53:54 < Laurenceb> in my experience stm32 adc is more subtle 2016-08-26T16:54:14 < Laurenceb> it seems to settle the sampling cap at v_ref/2 after a conversion 2016-08-26T16:57:03 < englishman> thats a lot of work for thermistors 2016-08-26T16:57:23 < Rob235> eww, don't eat figs 2016-08-26T16:57:27 < Rob235> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/what-are-figs_us_57bc3dc5e4b03d51368a989a 2016-08-26T16:57:33 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T16:57:54 < englishman> fuck off figs are awesome and huffpo is sjw blogspam 2016-08-26T16:58:36 < Rob235> I still doubt the science behind the article is false so it doesn't change the fact that figs are kinda gross 2016-08-26T16:58:40 < englishman> just look at all the clickbait 2016-08-26T16:59:12 < Laurenceb> lul didnt even load here 2016-08-26T16:59:18 < Laurenceb> too much javashit 2016-08-26T16:59:24 < englishman> calling youtube videos with block letter titles and chicks on the poster 'science'... 2016-08-26T16:59:26 < Laurenceb> hit back 2016-08-26T16:59:27 < karlp> heh, I had a different fig wasps spam on facebook earlier today 2016-08-26T17:00:46 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-26T17:00:49 < karlp> heh, printed out lipos: http://www.edn-europe.com/news/stencil-printed-li-ion-batteries-take-any-shape-0?news_id=85391 2016-08-26T17:01:19 < Ecco> Nice 2016-08-26T17:03:58 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-26T17:10:52 < Ecco> So I've read the refman part about the ADC 2016-08-26T17:11:16 < Ecco> and I don't understand what's about the internal capacity 2016-08-26T17:13:21 < Ecco> Oh it's all in the datasheet 2016-08-26T17:13:45 < Ecco> SO indeed, there's a limit on the external impedence 2016-08-26T17:14:00 < Ecco> is that the resistance between the ADC pin and GND? 2016-08-26T17:14:26 < englishman> yes and no 2016-08-26T17:14:40 < englishman> maybe its time to read about impedance vs resistance? 2016-08-26T17:14:41 < Tectu> englishman o/ 2016-08-26T17:14:48 < englishman> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup \o 2016-08-26T17:14:49 < steffanx> stroopwafelman. 2016-08-26T17:14:58 < Tectu> wanna go hit the club, englishman? 2016-08-26T17:15:02 < englishman> nee 2016-08-26T17:15:06 < englishman> i no has stroop 2016-08-26T17:15:08 < Tectu> time for steffanx's bachelor party 2016-08-26T17:15:08 < steffanx> jawel. 2016-08-26T17:15:42 < steffanx> i still have to go to the shop to buy some for you two, but .. lazy and too hot here. 2016-08-26T17:16:08 < Tectu> yeah, let's do that next month or so 2016-08-26T17:16:13 < Tectu> they would just melt away anyway 2016-08-26T17:16:34 < englishman> is it a special shop? and not just every corner store? 2016-08-26T17:16:36 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T17:16:49 < Tectu> by "lazy" he means not the average level of lazyness 2016-08-26T17:16:58 < englishman> stroopwaffelwinkel 2016-08-26T17:16:58 < Ecco> englishman: ok, makes sense 2016-08-26T17:17:00 < Tectu> when steffanx is lazy he basically has trouble keeping up with breathing 2016-08-26T17:17:02 < Ecco> I'm measuring a DC input though 2016-08-26T17:17:08 < Ecco> so impedence == resistance, right? 2016-08-26T17:17:20 < englishman> Ecco: every dc becomes ac if you look at it fast enough. 2016-08-26T17:17:22 < Rob235> car salesmen are the biggest douches 2016-08-26T17:17:26 < Ecco> :-D 2016-08-26T17:17:46 < Tectu> Rob235 ? 2016-08-26T17:17:53 < englishman> is steffanx ok? he looks deflated. 2016-08-26T17:17:57 < Ecco> Yeah but jokes aside, in my case can I assume that the impedance == resistance between pin and gnd? 2016-08-26T17:19:08 < steffanx> i dont like the way your fingers talk, teco 2016-08-26T17:19:13 < Rob235> spent hours at a dealership yesterday helping my gf with getting a car and for hours they kept repeating how laid back and unpushy they are, and they spend hours in the back 'trying to get us a good deal' and I keep saying we are unhappy and are about to walk out and then they magically get to the number we were asking for. I was too pissed at the time so even though they came down we said no 2016-08-26T17:20:09 < Ecco> I quite don't understand how car dealerships are still a thing 2016-08-26T17:20:26 < Ecco> I mean, it's not like a car is unique 2016-08-26T17:20:27 < Rob235> its so stupid and they are all fucking crooks 2016-08-26T17:20:32 < Tectu> steffanx :DDDDDD 2016-08-26T17:20:38 < Rob235> Ecco: used cars I guess are 2016-08-26T17:20:54 < englishman> Tectu: my ugfx protos arrive next week. 2016-08-26T17:20:55 < steffanx> should we all just buy new cars Ecco? 2016-08-26T17:20:58 < Ecco> In a way they are, but that should be quantifiable 2016-08-26T17:21:00 < Rob235> but its just a random crapshoot most of the time since you don't know what condition they are really in 2016-08-26T17:21:05 < englishman> time to link the linkings 2016-08-26T17:21:21 < englishman> and start learning exactly how horrible teenage swisscode is 2016-08-26T17:21:24 < Ecco> I mean, once you've stated the mileage, the age and the overal state… 2016-08-26T17:21:47 < Rob235> well I guess thats where kelly bb comes in 2016-08-26T17:22:05 < Rob235> its more the financing aspect thats a bitch I guess 2016-08-26T17:22:39 < Rob235> I mean they were charging us $500 for some security etched windows and tires filled with nitrogen 2016-08-26T17:22:53 < Rob235> keep your shitty upgrades and give me that $500 off 2016-08-26T17:22:56 < Tectu> englishman, nice! 2016-08-26T17:23:16 < Tectu> englishman, there's only good feedback 2016-08-26T17:23:17 < Ecco> Are nitrogen filled tires really a thing? 2016-08-26T17:23:23 < Tectu> Nice. A friend was using your stuff in a project, seemed very clean. 2016-08-26T17:23:34 < Rob235> just heard about it yesterday, so that it doesn't expand/contract from heat/cold 2016-08-26T17:23:34 < Tectu> englishman, can't deny the feedback of an unknown IRC guy 2016-08-26T17:23:39 < englishman> Ecco: yes, it's much faster to fill race car tires from a tank of nitrogen, and easier as you don't need a compressor 2016-08-26T17:23:44 < englishman> for street cars, it's only a scam 2016-08-26T17:23:52 < englishman> as air is 70%+ nitrogen anyway 2016-08-26T17:24:14 < Ecco> englishman: couldn't you use a tank of air? 2016-08-26T17:24:34 < englishman> yes, but compressed nitrogen is stored at very high pressure 2016-08-26T17:24:41 < englishman> so you get a lot of it in a normal sized tank 2016-08-26T17:47:59 < BrainDamage> i use co2 for my bike tires because all the handheld pumps suck so much 2016-08-26T17:48:51 < BrainDamage> and if you buy cartdriges for paintball guns they suddendly cost 1/5 the cost of a bike marketed co2 cartdridge 2016-08-26T17:50:31 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T17:52:31 < karlp> co2 tanks are somewhat commonly used here for jeep tires too. 2016-08-26T17:52:40 < karlp> faster than having a 12v compressor 2016-08-26T17:53:28 < karlp> seems like a rather expensive way of doing it, but nto compared to the petrol those guys burn in a weekend I guess... 2016-08-26T17:55:41 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-26T17:58:48 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/newsplus/src/1472060305703.webm 2016-08-26T18:05:01 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T18:10:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@86.57.155.106] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-26T18:18:59 -!- sklv [~sklv@asokolov.plus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T18:24:52 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-26T18:25:04 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T18:27:34 < sklv> hi, I'm looking for a screen with roughly 400x300 resolution, no touchscreen, preferably OLED that's likely to be available for a while, preferably OLED, that's supported by stm32f4/7, any ideas? 2016-08-26T18:29:19 < englishman> what kind of cost? 2016-08-26T18:29:23 < Tectu> also what size? 2016-08-26T18:29:37 < Tectu> won't be easy to find an off-the-shelf OLED that fits that description. TFT would be a lot easier 2016-08-26T18:29:44 < englishman> ^ 2016-08-26T18:29:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T18:30:26 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T18:30:28 < Tectu> also, what interface? When working with an F4 and F7 you could directly hook up an RGB panel 2016-08-26T18:30:37 < sklv> cost: don't mind so much, would pay up to 50-60$. size is much less important than resolution. anything roughly 4" 5" would be fine 2016-08-26T18:30:49 < Tectu> if you won't be going that way, you might want to think about a display controller with built-in hardware acceleration for basic functions 2016-08-26T18:31:06 < karlp> sklv: pretty sure 4d systems would have something for you 2016-08-26T18:31:15 < Tectu> are you looking for bare panels or display modules? 2016-08-26T18:31:24 < sklv> bare panel 2016-08-26T18:32:07 < Tectu> sklv, http://www.buydisplay.com/default/lcd-4-3-inch-tft-display-module-in-480x272-vga-video-av-driver-board 2016-08-26T18:32:10 < sklv> use case is mechanical keyboard with some non keyboardy functions, as secure as possible, so minimal loc, minimal 3rd party libs 2016-08-26T18:32:32 < Tectu> actually these two 2016-08-26T18:32:33 < Tectu> http://www.buydisplay.com/default/tft-4-3-inch-lcd-module-touchscreen-display-for-mp4-gps-480x272 2016-08-26T18:32:35 < Tectu> http://www.buydisplay.com/default/lcd-5-inch-display-480x272-tft-module-touch-screen-for-mp4-gps 2016-08-26T18:33:51 < Tectu> these two you can connect directly to the LTDC of the STM32F4/F7 (note that not all F4 have that) 2016-08-26T18:33:57 < Tectu> no additional display controller required. 2016-08-26T18:35:22 < sklv> that's cool - close to what i was after 2016-08-26T18:37:02 < Tectu> won't be easy to find an equivalent OLED 2016-08-26T18:37:56 < englishman> why oled specifically? 2016-08-26T18:38:43 < sklv> durability 2016-08-26T18:40:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.129] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T18:40:38 < upgrdman> keep in mind that displays with "driver" (as opposed to "controller") ICs have no GRAM, so timing can be a bitch 2016-08-26T18:42:10 < Tectu> LTDC takes care of that 2016-08-26T18:42:18 < upgrdman> o ok 2016-08-26T18:42:50 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-26T18:43:29 < Laurenceb> Tectu waifu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5OzZ4sSMQ 2016-08-26T18:43:49 < Tectu> Laurenceb, stop posting crap like that here please 2016-08-26T18:43:57 < yan> hm what can cause USART_FLAG_TXE flag not being reset after sending a byte? (stm32L1) this problem only happened when i updated synchronization of an unrelated task 2016-08-26T18:44:11 < karlp> updated synchronization? 2016-08-26T18:45:49 < yan> karlp: i have a uart task and a spi-talking task. i updated the way the spi mutual exclusion happens, and now the usart stopped working by that flag never going away 2016-08-26T18:48:37 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has left ##stm32 ["Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com"] 2016-08-26T18:49:24 < yan> karlp: not exaggerating, swapped a semaphore for a mutex in another task, usart stopped working (that flag isn't being set) 2016-08-26T18:51:53 < yan> karlp: solved it! adding that line simply pushed me over the 32k flash limit of the stm32l1 2016-08-26T18:55:20 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T18:56:43 < karlp> sounds like your build environment is insane if it proceeded to give you an image that then didn't work. 2016-08-26T18:57:51 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-26T19:00:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@46.194.129.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-26T19:00:52 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h50n9-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T19:00:57 < Tectu> dongs, are you up? 2016-08-26T19:02:07 < yan> karlp: shrug, i'm just using arm-none-eabi toolchain and openocd 2016-08-26T19:07:58 < yan> karlp: openocd knows about the flash size, although gdb happily loaded a larger image 2016-08-26T19:08:11 < karlp> so your linker script is probably garbage then 2016-08-26T19:08:16 < karlp> you should be getting a compilation failure. 2016-08-26T19:08:29 < karlp> and that's _your_ build environment. 2016-08-26T19:10:33 < yan> karlp: er you're right, was using an out-of-date linker script 2016-08-26T19:13:12 -!- massi [~massi@host164-128-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-26T19:19:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-26T19:20:02 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-59ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T19:31:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-26T19:35:50 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T19:36:47 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-26T19:37:56 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T19:38:52 < Laurenceb> what the fuuu 2016-08-26T19:39:08 < Laurenceb> I've got a lsm9ds1 that works when I resolder it then fails after an hour or so 2016-08-26T19:39:14 < Laurenceb> this has happened 6 times 2016-08-26T19:39:20 < Laurenceb> failure inside the ic? 2016-08-26T19:40:54 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T19:49:26 < englishman> after how long? 2016-08-26T19:49:30 < englishman> 72 minutes precisely? 2016-08-26T19:50:48 < Laurenceb> nah 2016-08-26T19:50:53 < Laurenceb> hmm its working now 2016-08-26T19:50:59 < Laurenceb> maybe I was just unlucky 2016-08-26T19:51:03 < Laurenceb> the data looks fine 2016-08-26T19:56:26 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T19:57:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T19:59:07 < wanderman> Tectu, 2016-08-26T19:59:09 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-26T20:01:45 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adaf6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:03:15 < Lux> englishman: why 72 ? 2016-08-26T20:03:30 < englishman> 2^32 2016-08-26T20:03:36 < Lux> iirc int overflow with micros was ~50 2016-08-26T20:03:42 < wanderman> hahaha 2016-08-26T20:04:01 < wanderman> 4GB 2016-08-26T20:04:27 < englishman> signed would be ~36 2016-08-26T20:04:45 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.234] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-08-26T20:05:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.167] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:05:30 < Lux> just me being wrong :) 2016-08-26T20:05:51 < Lux> i guess it was in some wrong comment 2016-08-26T20:06:00 < englishman> maybe something else with 16bit and hundreths or something 2016-08-26T20:06:55 -!- ou5x [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-26T20:08:07 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T20:12:05 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:14:32 < Rob235> even sending the car salesman an email has my blood pumping 2016-08-26T20:16:07 -!- dan [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Killed (wilhelm.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 2016-08-26T20:16:15 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:19:25 -!- steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-26T20:21:11 < Tectu> Rob235, sorry, I missed out... what happened? 2016-08-26T20:21:27 < Tectu> I only read something about nitrogen filled tires 2016-08-26T20:21:51 < Tectu> and yes, I am too lazy to scroll-back :p 2016-08-26T20:21:54 < Rob235> oh, my gf is shopping for a used car. we went to the dealership yesterday and its just so frustrating 2016-08-26T20:22:13 < Rob235> lies and insane markups 2016-08-26T20:22:45 < Rob235> $200 for filling tires with nitrogen which should cost $20, $300 for something that should cost $25 2016-08-26T20:23:22 < Rob235> when we threatened to leave they said they made a mistake and accidentlay added a 3 year warranty which added $50 a month 2016-08-26T20:23:44 < Tectu> what? 2016-08-26T20:23:54 < Tectu> why would you get nitrogen filled tires for a regular car? 2016-08-26T20:24:07 < Tectu> that sounds like something you do when you're a rally driver 2016-08-26T20:24:20 < Rob235> they did it to all their cars to jack the price up, its supposed to be good because it doesnt expand/contract as much in different weather 2016-08-26T20:24:39 < Tectu> lol. 2016-08-26T20:25:25 < Rob235> which is nice if thats what it does, but only worth the average $5 per tire... not $50 2016-08-26T20:29:17 < Tectu> saw a video/documentary on youtube a few weeks ago about car service/garage stations that want to give you a $20 oil-change and you end up with a $250 bill 2016-08-26T20:29:28 < englishman> 100% scam 2016-08-26T20:29:41 < englishman> checking your tires every tank fill is over9000 times more effective 2016-08-26T20:29:50 < englishman> in tire longevity and traction 2016-08-26T20:30:25 < Rob235> my car tells me if my tires are off but I think its very lenient 2016-08-26T20:30:37 -!- steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:30:54 < englishman> yes tpms shit is cool 2016-08-26T20:31:12 < englishman> until you go to buy new tires 2016-08-26T20:31:14 < englishman> and thers a tmps fee 2016-08-26T20:31:17 < Tectu> if (totalDistanceDriven % 500) { printf("Fill your tires bro!\n"); { 2016-08-26T20:31:18 < englishman> and they break shit 2016-08-26T20:31:27 < Tectu> wtf is tmps? 2016-08-26T20:31:27 < englishman> but just 'found' that its was already broken 2016-08-26T20:31:29 < englishman> so you gotta buy a new one 2016-08-26T20:31:34 < englishman> dealer item only 2016-08-26T20:31:34 < Rob235> hmm good to know, haven't changed tires on this car yet 2016-08-26T20:31:39 < englishman> and install means computer programming 2016-08-26T20:31:48 < englishman> so $500 tires become $1500 2016-08-26T20:31:49 < englishman> scamz 2016-08-26T20:31:59 < englishman> Tectu: tire pressure monitoring system 2016-08-26T20:32:03 < englishman> mandatory in new carz 2016-08-26T20:32:11 < Tectu> oh, okay 2016-08-26T20:32:13 < Rob235> is it? thats cool 2016-08-26T20:32:15 < Tectu> so like IoT tires? 2016-08-26T20:32:21 < gxti> for like a decade now 2016-08-26T20:32:21 < Rob235> my car isn't very new 2016-08-26T20:32:22 < englishman> yes 2016-08-26T20:32:24 < gxti> maybe 2 2016-08-26T20:32:30 < Tectu> every car comes with an arduino shield connector? 2016-08-26T20:32:37 < englishman> only pic16 sorry 2016-08-26T20:32:40 < englishman> and only on teslas 2016-08-26T20:32:49 < Tectu> but that oil chance stuff... why are people stupid enough to fall for that? 2016-08-26T20:32:58 < englishman> because people know nothing about cars 2016-08-26T20:33:02 < englishman> and pay to put nitrogen in their tires 2016-08-26T20:33:03 < englishman> etc 2016-08-26T20:33:11 < gxti> people don't understand a goddamn thing about their car other than that if you stop putting fuel in it doesn't work 2016-08-26T20:33:13 < englishman> garages know this and use it to their advantage 2016-08-26T20:33:14 < Rob235> what is wrong with the oil change guide? 2016-08-26T20:33:23 < Tectu> common sense should cover at least 90% of those scams 2016-08-26T20:33:42 < Rob235> oh you meant the scam 2016-08-26T20:33:52 < Tectu> I am talking about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-avpx8UTakI 2016-08-26T20:34:16 < englishman> in related news i gotta do a pd tdi timing belt this weekend 2016-08-26T20:34:17 < englishman> ffff. 2016-08-26T20:34:26 < Tectu> I was already "wtf is happening?" when I realized that there are buildings/companies that don't do anything but changing oil. that doesn't exist here. 2016-08-26T20:34:27 < englishman> stm32 cant save me 2016-08-26T20:34:33 < Tectu> here you have an auto mechanic or no auto mechanic :p 2016-08-26T20:34:55 < Tectu> s/auto/car 2016-08-26T20:35:07 < Rob235> yea I go to a quick oil change specific place 2016-08-26T20:35:13 < Rob235> 10 min in and out 2016-08-26T20:35:24 < Tectu> why not doing it yourself, if I may ask? 2016-08-26T20:35:25 < Rob235> top off fluids and stuff 2016-08-26T20:35:41 < Rob235> because its inconvenient 2016-08-26T20:35:47 < Tectu> you americans 2016-08-26T20:35:50 < Rob235> and much easier with equipment 2016-08-26T20:36:00 < Tectu> stop being pussys 2016-08-26T20:36:05 < Rob235> why waste the time? 2016-08-26T20:36:11 < Tectu> englishman, so those tpms... that's like active, battery powered electronics in each tire? 2016-08-26T20:36:16 < englishman> yes 2016-08-26T20:36:20 < englishman> they are charged by the spinning of the tire 2016-08-26T20:36:27 < Tectu> doing something yourself and not getting scammed doesn't seem to be a waste of time for me, Rob235 2016-08-26T20:36:33 < englishman> small unit usually integrated into the filler valve 2016-08-26T20:36:34 < Tectu> englishman, nice 2016-08-26T20:36:49 < Rob235> well I'm not talking about getting scammed, I'm talking about paying a fair price for a quick service 2016-08-26T20:37:42 < Tectu> I am still having issues grasping that there are dedicated locations just for changing your oil :p 2016-08-26T20:37:49 < Tectu> but then again, you probably got a few more cars than we do here 2016-08-26T20:38:04 < englishman> americans have innovated drive thru everything 2016-08-26T20:38:06 < Tectu> not many cars here... http://www.ueliraz.ch/2005/ferden/faldum-16.jpg 2016-08-26T20:38:10 < englishman> are there drive thru banks in swissland 2016-08-26T20:38:12 < englishman> oh wait banks 2016-08-26T20:38:14 < englishman> i bet there are 2016-08-26T20:38:15 < Laurenceb> drive through brothel when? 2016-08-26T20:38:23 < Tectu> englishman, yes, there actually is one close to my place :p 2016-08-26T20:38:23 < englishman> cuz taht counts as bank innovation 2016-08-26T20:38:24 < gxti> Tectu: you have mechanics right? 2016-08-26T20:38:39 < englishman> are there drive thru liquor and bbq stores 2016-08-26T20:38:40 < Tectu> gxti, yeah. but that's what I mean: full blown mechanics. not just oil change 2016-08-26T20:38:48 < gxti> oil change places are just very specialized mechanics that scam you and do poor work 2016-08-26T20:38:51 < Tectu> englishman, please tell me that doesn't exist... 2016-08-26T20:38:54 < Rob235> there are drive through liquor stores in some states 2016-08-26T20:38:59 < Rob235> like south carolina 2016-08-26T20:39:04 < Tectu> wtf 2016-08-26T20:39:05 < gxti> :D 2016-08-26T20:39:08 < gxti> 'murica 2016-08-26T20:39:12 < englishman> south carolina was a mind trip for me 2016-08-26T20:39:16 < Tectu> what's wrong with you people? 2016-08-26T20:39:18 < englishman> gas was like 40c/gallon 2016-08-26T20:39:21 < englishman> but you cant buy beer on sunday 2016-08-26T20:39:23 < englishman> cuz lord 2016-08-26T20:39:30 < gxti> there might be drive thru gun stores but i haven't seen one 2016-08-26T20:39:31 < Tectu> gxti, where are you from, if I may ask? 2016-08-26T20:39:42 < Rob235> went there (myrtle beach) for like 6 years straight as a young kid 2016-08-26T20:39:48 < gxti> Tectu: north carolina, USA. no drive through liquor here. 2016-08-26T20:39:57 < Rob235> for vacation 2016-08-26T20:39:59 < Tectu> isn't there some three-weeks-waiting period before you actually get your gun, gxti? Would be a long drive through 2016-08-26T20:40:18 < gxti> Tectu: for first time buyers i think. not sure how it works because i don't own one (but shhh don't tell anyone, they might kick me out) 2016-08-26T20:40:24 < englishman> gun waiting periods suck 2016-08-26T20:40:39 < Tectu> well here you can't buy guns anyway :p 2016-08-26T20:40:42 < Rob235> brew-thru 2016-08-26T20:40:47 < Rob235> I think that was the name of the store 2016-08-26T20:40:51 < englishman> youre right Tectu they are all given away free 2016-08-26T20:40:59 < englishman> those sweet swissarms 2016-08-26T20:41:01 < Tectu> is "thru" an official english word or slang for "through"? 2016-08-26T20:41:21 < Tectu> englishman but you don't get any ammo anymore. My father still got amo with it, but that's long gone now. 2016-08-26T20:41:21 < gxti> more slang, but popular in the conext of drive-thru 2016-08-26T20:41:38 < englishman> those dope sg550s that every little girl gets on her 13th birthday 2016-08-26T20:41:41 < Tectu> you just don't have a gun as a swiss civilian 2016-08-26T20:41:51 < Tectu> even when hunting there are very very very strict rules & laws 2016-08-26T20:42:03 < englishman> then goes to shoot and she does 1" groups at 300yd on her first day out cuz bloodlines 2016-08-26T20:42:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-26T20:42:36 < Tectu> englishman, are you actually from america and moved out or...? 2016-08-26T20:42:46 < englishman> i dont go to america 2016-08-26T20:43:13 < Tectu> so you were made & grew up in canada? 2016-08-26T20:43:33 < Tectu> or at least got released. location of manufacturing doesn't really matter. 2016-08-26T20:43:35 < Rob235> made? was he 3d printed? 2016-08-26T20:43:41 < englishman> no im from jamaica 2016-08-26T20:43:42 < Laurenceb> he was ejaculated 2016-08-26T20:43:47 < englishman> i am a 350lb black man with dreadlocks 2016-08-26T20:44:01 < Rob235> I want to go back to jamaica 2016-08-26T20:44:13 < gxti> me too what a coincidence 2016-08-26T20:44:19 < Tectu> wtf 2016-08-26T20:44:22 < englishman> gxti o/ 2016-08-26T20:44:22 < Rob235> only country besides US that I've been to 2016-08-26T20:44:32 < Laurenceb> englishman: https://img.ifcdn.com/images/602dc26634fdd8ae534f5195118eb23a77668421e52d681e5c12f8c92be66973_1.jpg 2016-08-26T20:44:40 < gxti> quebec is the only place besides the US that i've been to, not a good choice 2016-08-26T20:44:45 < gxti> i should rectify that 2016-08-26T20:44:45 < Rob235> heh 2016-08-26T20:44:47 < englishman> canada has that fuckin wall Laurenceb 2016-08-26T20:44:58 < Laurenceb> great great wall 2016-08-26T20:45:04 < Laurenceb> epic epic epic wall 2016-08-26T20:45:26 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba84EL6wO10 2016-08-26T20:45:34 < englishman> how was the poutine gxti 2016-08-26T20:45:43 < gxti> excessively french 2016-08-26T20:46:34 < Tectu> so how do I become a US citizen? 2016-08-26T20:49:26 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:49:36 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:54:07 < Laurenceb> why would you want to 2016-08-26T20:54:08 < Laurenceb> lol 2016-08-26T20:54:16 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.31.14] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T20:54:45 < Laurenceb> < speaking as someone with half my family in murica 2016-08-26T20:55:20 < englishman> dont you want to move to usa 2016-08-26T20:55:27 < steffanx> canada. 2016-08-26T20:55:53 < englishman> i got a dope basement for Laurenceb 2016-08-26T20:55:56 < Laurenceb> my dad is murican 2016-08-26T20:56:06 < Laurenceb> I have seen enough of the place to avoid 2016-08-26T20:56:55 < steffanx> your mom is 4chan? 2016-08-26T20:56:59 < Tectu> my dad is murican 2016-08-26T20:57:06 < Tectu> that explains so much 2016-08-26T20:57:08 < steffanx> trump. 2016-08-26T20:57:11 < Laurenceb> lulz 2016-08-26T20:57:12 < Tectu> lul 2016-08-26T20:57:29 < steffanx> stop saying: dick. 2016-08-26T20:57:34 < Tectu> didn't you say that you're syrian, Laurenceb? 2016-08-26T20:57:41 < Laurenceb> slightly 2016-08-26T20:57:42 < steffanx> ( lul = dick, in dutch) 2016-08-26T20:58:17 < Laurenceb> I can join the KKK and be a rapist 2016-08-26T20:58:36 < steffanx> you can also be one iwthout joining the kkk 2016-08-26T20:59:15 < Laurenceb> i.imgur.com/ZXaaJjD.gif 2016-08-26T21:05:41 < Laurenceb> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/11/1b/f2/111bf25463889337f018f4b6ad025cec.jpg 2016-08-26T21:05:48 < Laurenceb> typical murican family 2016-08-26T21:06:10 < steffanx> mom, dad, Laurenceb 2016-08-26T21:07:01 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T21:07:47 < Tectu> wtf is this? https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rpT2o4NvVjY/T0ZzjGw-_dI/AAAAAAAAIp0/uviVezYo6yY/s1600/carbonengineering1.jpg 2016-08-26T21:08:13 < Laurenceb> cooling system? 2016-08-26T21:08:37 < steffanx> buttcoin miner 2016-08-26T21:08:42 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-26T21:09:57 < Laurenceb> 8chan irl http://i.imgur.com/9bU7FfJ.png 2016-08-26T21:10:13 < Tectu> jesus, I don't even know what 8chan is 2016-08-26T21:13:31 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-26T21:16:32 < Laurenceb> lul there is a subreddit just for these "character lineup" shots 2016-08-26T21:20:30 < englishman> steffanx: what happened to your caps. are you feeling ok buddy 2016-08-26T21:30:11 < steffanx> Better? 2016-08-26T21:30:15 -!- steffanx is now known as Steffanx 2016-08-26T21:35:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.167] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-26T21:36:10 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-26T21:42:14 < Rob235> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/SoEAAMXQTT9RyQN9/s-l1600.jpg coo buttons 2016-08-26T21:44:25 < Steffanx> kinda 2016-08-26T21:44:42 < Steffanx> ebay link? 2016-08-26T21:45:06 < Rob235> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290868724504 2016-08-26T21:45:13 < Rob235> theres symbols and letters too 2016-08-26T21:45:27 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T21:45:38 < Rob235> I got them for my stupid little remote project 2016-08-26T22:00:00 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T22:02:56 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-26T22:10:29 < Steffanx> "stupid" .. you said so :P 2016-08-26T22:13:24 < zygron_> Steffann: meanie! :p 2016-08-26T22:13:50 -!- zygron_ is now known as mitrax 2016-08-26T22:15:13 < Steffanx> ho ho, it was he who said it. 2016-08-26T22:25:08 < Tectu> zypgron 2016-08-26T22:26:53 < mitrax> Tectu: hi there 2016-08-26T22:27:14 < Tectu> Good day to you, my french friend 2016-08-26T22:27:23 < Tectu> how was your trip? 2016-08-26T22:28:00 < mitrax> very nice :) got back today 2016-08-26T22:28:32 < Tectu> glad to hear that! 2016-08-26T22:29:05 < mitrax> waking up at 3am with the whole house shaking for 45 sec wasn't a pleasant experience but besides that it was fine 2016-08-26T22:29:24 < mitrax> did you feel it? 2016-08-26T22:29:57 < kakimir> they repaired our totalled tractor with old wire harness.. I'm causing traffic block in the middle of nowhere as transmission went offline 2016-08-26T22:31:01 < kakimir> it wont move 2016-08-26T22:31:12 < Tectu> mitrax, nope, didn't feel anything 2016-08-26T22:31:29 < kakimir> it wont go into neutral gear 2016-08-26T22:31:43 < Tectu> kakimir, just take the tires off and push 2016-08-26T22:34:25 < kakimir> this thing even has electric steering 2016-08-26T22:35:25 < kakimir> I hope it has some sort of unrepairable cable with unique connectors 2016-08-26T22:37:47 < Tectu> mitrax, did everything stay in one piece? 2016-08-26T22:39:45 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T22:42:42 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T22:43:40 < mitrax> Tectu: fortunately yeah :) i was about 170km from the epicenter 2016-08-26T22:45:26 < Tectu> glad to hear that, Mr. mitrax 2016-08-26T22:48:23 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.31.14] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-26T22:50:10 < mitrax> do you have some vacations planned soon or are you too busy with ugfx? 2016-08-26T22:52:41 < Tectu> no vacations planned. University starts again this Monday 2016-08-26T22:55:12 < Steffanx> tectu doesnt do holidays. 2016-08-26T22:55:18 < Steffanx> *vacation 2016-08-26T22:56:07 < Steffanx> or does he? 2016-08-26T22:57:54 < englishman> swiss are always on holiday 2016-08-26T22:57:55 < Tectu> well, depends 2016-08-26T23:00:23 < englishman> typical Tectu day at ugfx hq https://np.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/comments/4t5dg1/what_is_the_standard_day_consist_of_in_switzerland/d5eqhwk 2016-08-26T23:02:33 < Tectu> > Arrive at Coop to buy Bread because I'm no savage who buys Bread at Migros. 2016-08-26T23:02:36 < Tectu> holy shit I lol'd so hard 2016-08-26T23:02:47 < Tectu> but probably not funny for people outside of .ch 2016-08-26T23:03:34 < Tectu> > 22:30:00 Be in bed. Sex for 6 Minutes. Anything else would be inefficient. 2016-08-26T23:03:44 < Tectu> > 22:36:00 Wife and I come at the same time. Obviously 2016-08-26T23:03:53 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rnkoelyilvpbwqtn] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-26T23:03:56 < Tectu> > 22:37:00 Go to sleep after exactly one minute of cuddling. Anything else would be inefficient. 2016-08-26T23:04:18 < Tectu> holy shit this is getting better and better... 2016-08-26T23:04:19 < Tectu> Thanks for the gold. But since I'm swiss I already have enough gold. I will pay it forward and donate those ~CHF10 to 2016-08-26T23:09:02 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T23:31:14 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-26T23:43:32 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxsefwaqshrqekfl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-26T23:45:01 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h50n9-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-26T23:48:31 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-26T23:49:14 < karlp> Tectu: re changing oil at home, you need a) some tools you don't need for anything else, b) something to catch a bunch of waste oil in, c) time to take that waste oil somewher eproper, d) somewhere suitable to actually _do_ those operations, not everyone has an indoor garage. you've got to be pretty serious to do oil changes yourself. 2016-08-26T23:57:13 < Simon--> pffft 2016-08-26T23:57:19 < Simon--> do it on the street 2016-08-26T23:57:27 < Simon--> :) 2016-08-26T23:58:39 < Tectu> karlp, yeah, I see what you mean. --- Day changed Sat Aug 27 2016 2016-08-27T00:00:28 < karlp> (we don't really have oil change only places here either) 2016-08-27T00:00:41 < karlp> instead we have places that specialise mostly in tires, but do some basic work too. 2016-08-27T00:01:31 < karlp> changing tires on cars twice a year helps those guys out a lot 2016-08-27T00:02:01 < Tectu> hmm, but changing tires is definitely something that is easier to do yourself than changing oil 2016-08-27T00:02:27 < Tectu> storage space might be an issue though. here it is common that the mechanics/garages store your tires for a yearly fee 2016-08-27T00:06:11 < karlp> Tectu: changing tires is easy if they're on rims. 2016-08-27T00:06:18 < karlp> not something you do yourself otherwise. 2016-08-27T00:06:31 < karlp> and yeah, storage. some places store them for eyou if you pay. 2016-08-27T00:06:48 < Tectu> uhm... I have never seen somebody using the same rims for different sets of tires 2016-08-27T00:07:09 < Tectu> everybody I know keeps the actual rubber part of the tire on the rim 2016-08-27T00:07:21 < karlp> most people in basic cars are on the same rims, just switching summer and winter tires. 2016-08-27T00:07:25 < Tectu> which of course results in additional costs for the additional rims but as you said it's not easy to re-rim them yourself w/o equipment 2016-08-27T00:07:33 < karlp> not easy/impossible 2016-08-27T00:07:42 < Tectu> interesting, never seen people doing that around here 2016-08-27T00:07:50 < karlp> do you have winter tires by law? 2016-08-27T00:07:54 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-27T00:08:03 < karlp> well, you're swiss too right :) 2016-08-27T00:08:09 < Tectu> so "a tire" is actually just the rubber part of the wheel? 2016-08-27T00:08:12 < karlp> yeah 2016-08-27T00:08:13 < Tectu> "too"? 2016-08-27T00:08:21 < karlp> like that reddit post about swissness 2016-08-27T00:08:28 < Tectu> aah, yes 2016-08-27T00:12:41 < Tectu> r2com didn't come back, hmm? 2016-08-27T00:12:47 < Tectu> he even un-friended me on steam 2016-08-27T00:13:15 < Thorn__> https://youtu.be/y-zGH-7R2G8?t=2m 2016-08-27T00:13:49 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T00:14:30 < Tectu> "pet lion" 2016-08-27T00:15:10 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-27T00:31:56 < kakimir> guess which fuse paralyzed tractor? 2016-08-27T00:32:26 < englishman> the one that broke? 2016-08-27T00:34:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-59ebe155.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-27T00:34:37 < kakimir> brake light 20amp minifuse 2016-08-27T00:35:46 < Tectu> and that made your gearbox go foo? 2016-08-27T00:35:52 < kakimir> yes 2016-08-27T00:36:45 < kakimir> apparently they saved some from circuit redundancy there 2016-08-27T00:42:18 < kakimir> some fuckker had removed operator manual so I didnt have it to pass time and find out location of fuse box 2016-08-27T00:43:26 < kakimir> or to decypher error codes 2016-08-27T00:48:27 < kakimir> and why doesnt 17" computer screen tell error codes in plain english 2016-08-27T00:51:50 < Rob235> alright, just ordered 16 props 2016-08-27T00:58:35 < Tectu> \o/ 2016-08-27T00:59:47 < Rob235> new props though so the 6 possibly 7 plastic I have left will have to be extras (well whats left after I have less than 6 plastic left and cant use em_ 2016-08-27T00:59:49 < Rob235> ) 2016-08-27T01:00:13 < Rob235> went up an inch too, max this frame can support 2016-08-27T01:01:23 < Rob235> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/OAcAAOSwstxVI06v/s-l1600.jpg not that it matters 2016-08-27T01:02:06 < Rob235> probably china copies but from US seller with same price and free shipping like the china ones 2016-08-27T01:04:16 < Rob235> I should solder in my voltage/current sensor to see the difference between 12 and 13" props 2016-08-27T01:27:55 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-27T01:31:09 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-27T01:33:53 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T01:36:48 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-61-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T01:39:06 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-142-199.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-27T01:41:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-27T01:45:19 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adaf6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-27T01:46:33 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T01:49:31 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-27T01:55:27 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T02:04:04 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxsefwaqshrqekfl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-27T02:17:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T02:18:18 < upgrdman> anyone know of a good UPS (110V) that is intended to have an external battery? like something that would be common to see used on ebay? 2016-08-27T02:29:06 -!- Sync [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T02:29:19 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ewmgwlbaglsgluof] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T02:46:04 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ewmgwlbaglsgluof] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-27T02:50:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T02:55:17 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lsAMcP14m0 2016-08-27T03:16:26 < Tectu> upgrdman, why an external battery? Do you just mean exchangeable? 2016-08-27T03:16:33 < Tectu> upgrdman, I have an APC UPS, I am very happy with it 2016-08-27T03:17:05 < upgrdman> well i want a big battery and make of the rack mount UPSs have a connector for however big a battery you want 2016-08-27T03:17:16 < Tectu> ah 2016-08-27T03:17:25 < upgrdman> i have an old 1100VA UPS but it gets hot easily 2016-08-27T03:17:33 < upgrdman> even though the load is <300W 2016-08-27T03:18:04 < Tectu> I know that APC has solutions for external batteries too 2016-08-27T03:18:06 < upgrdman> and my Flir cam tells me that a few to92 transistors in it fucking idling reach >90C 2016-08-27T03:18:13 < Laurenceb__> just use old car batteries lol 2016-08-27T03:18:18 < upgrdman> seems like shit design overcall 2016-08-27T03:18:30 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-27T03:18:57 < Tectu> http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-Smart-UPS-RT-192V-Rack-Mount-External-Battery-Pack-SURT192XLBP-NO-BATTS-/262444393257?hash=item3d1ae7a329:g:pN8AAOSwH71XPTQA 2016-08-27T03:19:04 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T03:20:52 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-27T03:21:16 < upgrdman> 192v battery, wow 2016-08-27T03:22:05 < upgrdman> 192V 10Ah ... pretty impressive. a bit overkill for my need tho. and its just the battery holder, not the ups :) 2016-08-27T03:27:00 < Tectu> yeah 2016-08-27T03:27:01 < Tectu> well 2016-08-27T03:27:06 < Tectu> that's the best I can do right now ;) 2016-08-27T03:27:15 < upgrdman> apology accepted 2016-08-27T03:27:17 < upgrdman> ;) 2016-08-27T03:28:40 < Tectu> time for bed, cu o/ 2016-08-27T03:28:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-27T03:28:53 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-27T03:28:54 < PeterM> upgrdman, in UPSs often the batt newg is connected to line Neutral 2016-08-27T03:29:00 < PeterM> be careful 2016-08-27T03:33:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-27T03:34:04 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T03:45:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T04:17:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:c169:ccb2:29e8:a46] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T04:24:46 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-heavwdyjrdxzqdhv] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T04:30:13 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T04:33:12 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-27T04:49:20 < Laurenceb__> Obama is black, do you know what else is black? 2016-08-27T04:49:54 < Laurenceb__> thats right, seals are black 2016-08-27T04:50:01 < englishman> no they arent 2016-08-27T04:50:09 < Laurenceb__> coincidence? I think not 2016-08-27T04:57:22 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-27T05:10:22 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T05:13:39 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-27T05:16:50 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-27T05:35:37 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T05:41:03 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T05:50:39 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-27T05:56:22 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T06:29:21 < jadew> sup? 2016-08-27T06:29:25 < jadew> anything funny going on? 2016-08-27T06:57:42 < upgrdman> no 2016-08-27T07:52:46 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-27T08:25:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d435c1.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T08:47:09 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adaf6.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T08:51:14 < jadew> I discovered something amazing 2016-08-27T08:51:40 < jadew> couldn't work, couldn't sleep so I went for a ride in the park, with my bike 2016-08-27T08:52:23 < jadew> went on a little island and sat on a bench, by the lake, in front of a nice tree 2016-08-27T08:52:43 < jadew> it was about 7 am, so very quiet, a bunch of old people having picknicks and some were doing yoga 2016-08-27T08:53:02 < jadew> after a couple of minutes, this hot chick shows up 2016-08-27T08:53:07 < jadew> huge boobs 2016-08-27T08:53:17 < jadew> goes behind that tree and starts undressing 2016-08-27T08:54:31 < jadew> sadly I couldn't see much because of the damn tree and the sun was reflecting straight into my eyes from the lake, but it turns out most people there were there to sunbathe 2016-08-27T08:56:03 < jadew> anyway, long story short, I'll be going to the park more often from now on 2016-08-27T09:13:04 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-27T09:40:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T09:46:38 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-27T09:53:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-27T10:05:10 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-27T10:05:28 < upgrdman> jadew, be sure to take pics for us 2016-08-27T10:05:49 < upgrdman> "imgur album or it didnt happen" 2016-08-27T10:10:36 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:11:17 -!- nighty-_ [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:13:38 -!- _brianx [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:14:20 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:c169:ccb2:29e8:a46] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-27T10:14:36 -!- sooda_ [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:16:53 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-27T10:16:53 -!- brianx [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-27T10:16:53 -!- nighty- [~cp@www.taiyolabs.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-27T10:16:54 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-27T10:16:54 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-27T10:16:55 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-27T10:17:40 -!- kha [~kha@hautio.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:17:56 -!- MightyPork [MightyPork@is.aww.moe] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:27:45 < PeterM> upgrdman, inb4 http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=166929321 2016-08-27T10:28:52 < upgrdman> lol 2016-08-27T10:36:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.144] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:36:56 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:38:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T10:43:16 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.144] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-27T10:50:40 < upgrdman> so my cpu fan is currently mounted the normal way, blowing air onto the heatsink. anyone know if it would perform much worse if i flip the fan so it sucks air through the heatsink and blows away from the cpu? 2016-08-27T11:00:03 < jadew> why do you want to do that? 2016-08-27T11:00:12 < jadew> it would peform worse for sure 2016-08-27T11:00:23 < jadew> if it was better, they'd mount it like that by default 2016-08-27T11:03:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T11:23:38 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-27T11:24:48 < upgrdman> jadew, because my little case has a vent near it 2016-08-27T11:25:01 < upgrdman> so in theory i can exhaust hot air directly through that 2016-08-27T11:25:30 < upgrdman> but ya, i expect it to be less efficient. just wonder if not flooding my case with hot air would counteract that or now. guess i'll have to do some tests and finds out 2016-08-27T11:36:41 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T11:50:55 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-27T11:57:39 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T11:58:21 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-27T12:00:46 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-27T12:01:47 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-27T12:15:44 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T12:16:37 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-27T12:17:02 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T12:17:23 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T12:20:42 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-27T12:24:34 < jpa-> upgrdman: problem with mounting it other way is that the air won't have momentum that would bring it close to the bottom (hottest) part of the heatsink 2016-08-27T12:24:42 < jpa-> how much that matters in practice varies a lot 2016-08-27T12:31:23 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4d0adaf6.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-27T12:40:53 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T12:46:41 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T13:04:40 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-27T13:15:42 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.16] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T13:19:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-27T14:18:50 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T15:00:55 -!- a_morale_ [~quassel@93-44-106-171.ip96.fastwebnet.it] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T15:12:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T15:32:51 < Laurenceb__> https://i.sli.mg/jL6IFw.jpg 2016-08-27T15:37:35 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d435c1.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-27T15:46:48 < kakimir> is he really your father Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-27T16:03:18 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T16:03:21 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-27T16:15:44 < Laurenceb__> attn kakimir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUVnoEzeoWE 2016-08-27T16:16:57 < kakimir> fuk man 2016-08-27T16:19:40 < kakimir> i laughed but still 2016-08-27T16:25:46 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saGSF-nEQkg 2016-08-27T16:36:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T16:39:22 < kakimir> brit humour is strange 2016-08-27T16:39:55 < kakimir> weird poetry makes people like Laurenceb__ laught? 2016-08-27T16:41:51 < kakimir> *weird macabre poetry 2016-08-27T16:49:46 < Steffanx> only makes people with mental issues laugh kakimir ;) 2016-08-27T16:52:07 < Steffanx> Hows our kakimir today? 2016-08-27T16:54:35 < Steffanx> fixed the tractor? 2016-08-27T16:56:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T16:56:12 < Rob235> oi 2016-08-27T16:58:16 -!- _brianx is now known as BrianX 2016-08-27T17:03:27 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-27T17:06:05 < Steffanx> lo 2016-08-27T17:06:26 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T17:06:58 < kakimir> Steffanx: changing a fuse wasn't too much a task 2016-08-27T17:07:47 < kakimir> it has electrical system by fiat or so 2016-08-27T17:08:19 < englishman> yr doomed 2016-08-27T17:08:59 < kakimir> it's generally the mindset in problem situation 2016-08-27T17:09:04 < kakimir> call tow truck 2016-08-27T17:09:23 < kakimir> instead of checking brake light fuse 2016-08-27T17:09:55 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-27T17:11:03 < englishman> not thinking like a farmer 2016-08-27T17:12:10 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-27T17:15:52 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, that guy on the right side in the picture you linked looks like daniel radcliff 2016-08-27T17:16:32 < Rob235> man, I can't figure out how to wire this 2016-08-27T17:17:34 < Rob235> got this attopilot 180A voltage/current meter and I can't think of a clean way to put it 2016-08-27T17:20:16 < englishman> between your battery connector and power distribution point usually 2016-08-27T17:21:58 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T17:22:11 < Rob235_> ugh, whats going on today comcast 2016-08-27T17:23:52 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-27T17:45:25 < karlp> zyp: got a very basic usb-uart going, no buffering, was missing simple things like, "don't forget to set up the af on the pins" :) 2016-08-27T17:45:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-27T17:46:01 < Tectu> karlp, it's funny how these things get you even after years of working with STM32 2016-08-27T17:46:02 < karlp> but that's minor. so, is USB_Strings in cardio a good example of how you do strings in usb? you register that extra class as just "another" handler? 2016-08-27T17:47:20 < karlp> https://github.com/karlp/laks_demo/blob/usb-cdc-acm-uart/main.cpp woudl be even smaller if I dropped all the f1/f3 code there 2016-08-27T17:48:52 < karlp> what's with the unicode prefixes here thoug? http://cgit.jvnv.net/cardio/tree/bootloader.cpp#n201 2016-08-27T17:49:03 < karlp> the u"" magically does the byte padding for you I guess? 2016-08-27T17:56:30 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-27T18:02:51 < Steffanx> usb strings are unicode right? 2016-08-27T18:03:53 < Steffanx> i like how he "hacked" the type and length into there. 2016-08-27T18:09:45 < karlp> the length is first? but type? i don't get it 2016-08-27T18:17:57 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T18:19:49 < aandrew> karlp: I like those macros for discriptor creation. Your doing? 2016-08-27T18:21:23 < Steffanx> those are not macros aandrew 2016-08-27T18:21:42 < karlp> zyps usb stack, laks. 2016-08-27T18:21:53 < karlp> I'm just poking a bit, I've always liked his work 2016-08-27T18:22:04 < karlp> trying to understand how to use the stack a bit 2016-08-27T18:22:22 < Steffanx> those are constexpr expressions with all kinds of magic aandrew 2016-08-27T18:22:45 < aandrew> Interesting 2016-08-27T18:22:50 < aandrew> too bad my C++ is so weak 2016-08-27T18:22:55 < aandrew> I can't even make out what he's doing with those templates 2016-08-27T18:23:42 < Steffanx> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/usb/descriptor.h?id=4796432e8d165b5358af9675f2ca15a61bafee68 just read that and you will be more confused probably 2016-08-27T18:24:07 < aandrew> yes, I was there :- 2016-08-27T18:24:10 < aandrew> :-) 2016-08-27T18:24:15 < Steffanx> ah ok 2016-08-27T18:25:00 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T18:28:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d435c1.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T19:00:19 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d435c1.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-27T19:01:35 < kakimir> whoah 2016-08-27T19:02:23 < kakimir> my most expensive lipo and I just undervoltaged it very badly 2016-08-27T19:03:06 < kakimir> I wonder if it's bad if I charge it back right now 2016-08-27T19:03:54 < kakimir> my soldering iron uv protection for 3cell lipo kicked in 2016-08-27T19:04:01 < kakimir> mine is 6cell 2016-08-27T19:06:56 < aandrew> hm, undervolting lithium batteries is bad 2016-08-27T19:07:58 < kakimir> I wonder how much my ts100 uv protection level was 2016-08-27T19:08:11 < kakimir> divide that with 6 2016-08-27T19:08:27 < kakimir> I think 2volt level is instant damage 2016-08-27T19:10:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:7059:7e63:feea:5f0b] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T19:11:06 < englishman> ts100 has 10v iirc 2016-08-27T19:11:22 < englishman> your lipo is dicked but it will still work for soldering etc 2016-08-27T19:11:31 < Lux> can't you change that ? 2016-08-27T19:11:38 < englishman> just in firmware 2016-08-27T19:11:40 < englishman> afaik 2016-08-27T19:11:43 < Lux> iirc there was a .txt when you plug it in 2016-08-27T19:11:50 < englishman> hmm 2016-08-27T19:11:51 < Lux> ya I looked at the firmware 2016-08-27T19:11:54 < Lux> it's horrible 2016-08-27T19:11:55 < englishman> i dont recall if it was there tho 2016-08-27T19:12:13 < englishman> well. bottom dollar china firmware 2016-08-27T19:12:19 < englishman> its cool that its opensores tho 2016-08-27T19:12:21 < Lux> they do the simplest stuff in over complicated ways 2016-08-27T19:12:22 < englishman> hardware+software 2016-08-27T19:12:35 < Lux> yeah, that's definetly a plus 2016-08-27T19:12:55 < Lux> even though noone has dicked with it yet 2016-08-27T19:12:56 < kakimir> not in .txt 2016-08-27T19:13:03 < Lux> no libre ts100 :) 2016-08-27T19:13:55 < englishman> i confirm ts100 sucks at 3-cell tho 2016-08-27T19:14:00 < Lux> but I bet someone will come up with a proper custom firmware eventually 2016-08-27T19:14:03 < englishman> on 4cell its a little better but i still had trouble with 8g wire 2016-08-27T19:14:10 < englishman> 6g its usable 2016-08-27T19:14:11 < Lux> 4 cell is ok imo 2016-08-27T19:14:15 < kakimir> no no 2016-08-27T19:14:16 < Lux> or a laptop psu 2016-08-27T19:14:19 < kakimir> 6cell is only way 2016-08-27T19:14:28 < kakimir> under that -> emergency only 2016-08-27T19:15:13 < kakimir> okay undervoltage level was 11volts 2016-08-27T19:15:37 < kakimir> 1,83volts per cell 2016-08-27T19:15:48 < kakimir> some may have gone to 0 or under that 2016-08-27T19:16:07 < englishman> haha 2016-08-27T19:16:12 < englishman> its dickered m8 2016-08-27T19:17:03 < kakimir> shit fuck 2016-08-27T19:18:23 < aandrew> how did you manage to undervolt? 2016-08-27T19:18:30 < kakimir> just an hour ago it was 22volts 2016-08-27T19:18:38 < Steffanx> kakimir and Rob235_ are the same? 2016-08-27T19:18:46 < kakimir> and I was not workings even whole time 2016-08-27T19:18:51 < Steffanx> i remember Rob235_ do the same thing :P 2016-08-27T19:18:59 < Steffanx> *did 2016-08-27T19:22:12 < kakimir> for 6cell? 2016-08-27T19:22:31 < aandrew> kakimir: how did you undervolt? using software to protect it? 2016-08-27T19:22:53 < kakimir> I just checked voltage every now and then 2016-08-27T19:23:01 < kakimir> suddenly iron stopped heating 2016-08-27T19:23:07 < aandrew> ah 2016-08-27T19:23:13 < Lux> next time just get a protection pcb 2016-08-27T19:23:24 < aandrew> hindsight is 20/20 but I usually go with hardware protection for things like that 2016-08-27T19:23:29 < Lux> not really expensive from china 2016-08-27T19:24:30 < englishman> get a low voltage buzzer for $1 and leave it in the balance plug when using 2016-08-27T19:24:58 < kakimir> it will fuck one cell all the time 2016-08-27T19:25:00 < Lux> like that for example: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/6S-4-5A-25-2V-lipo-lithium-Polymer-BMS-PCM-PCB-battery-protection-circuit-board-for/32706946512.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_2_10057_10056_10065_10037_10055_10054_10059_10058_10032_10017_107_10060_10061_10052_414_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_7&btsid=7fad5419-4003-44c8-85ae-33d3d5ffd511 2016-08-27T19:25:22 < kakimir> leave it to balance plug and you have 5cell lipo next day 2016-08-27T19:25:22 < englishman> hehe 2016-08-27T19:25:34 < englishman> Lux: do you know anything about one of these but for higher discharge 2016-08-27T19:25:41 < englishman> like 100a 2016-08-27T19:25:49 < englishman> 3-4s 2016-08-27T19:25:57 < Lux> never seen anything like it 2016-08-27T19:26:17 < englishman> i wonder what these small ones are for 2016-08-27T19:26:21 < Lux> englishman: what do you need that for ? 2016-08-27T19:26:24 < englishman> surely even ebikes draw more 2016-08-27T19:26:28 < Lux> 100A seems much 2016-08-27T19:26:31 < englishman> for motor 2016-08-27T19:26:39 < Lux> ebikes draw like 20A or not ? 2016-08-27T19:26:47 < englishman> lets see 2016-08-27T19:26:52 < Lux> 1KW 2016-08-27T19:26:57 < Lux> at 48V 2016-08-27T19:27:02 < englishman> 500w / 24v = 20A 2016-08-27T19:27:04 < englishman> yeah 2016-08-27T19:27:30 < englishman> what would 4.5a be used for 2016-08-27T19:27:34 < englishman> unless you have a bunch of them 2016-08-27T19:27:45 < Lux> 18650 cells 2016-08-27T19:27:56 < Lux> you can't draw much more from those anyway 2016-08-27T19:28:00 < englishman> wouldn't you parallel the shit out of them tho 2016-08-27T19:28:12 < englishman> adding one bms per cell sounds expensive and useless 2016-08-27T19:28:31 < englishman> one bms per pack 2016-08-27T19:30:13 < kakimir> I ordered a display balancer discharger thing like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-in-1-LCD-Discharger-Balancer-Meter-Tester-for-2-6S-lipo-Li-Fe-battery-LO-/161885080650 2016-08-27T19:32:14 < Lux> englishman: ya, no idea what they'd mass produce those for 2016-08-27T19:32:30 < Lux> maybe some crappy electric scooters and similar stuff 2016-08-27T19:34:42 < englishman> maybe theres over9000 of them in some crappy chinese car or something 2016-08-27T19:35:12 < kakimir> weird those cells balance drift from cell to another 2016-08-27T19:35:30 < kakimir> some are higher and next moment another one 2016-08-27T19:35:38 < kakimir> there is no balancer connected btw. 2016-08-27T19:36:28 < Rob235_> i hate rewiring shit 2016-08-27T19:37:09 < kakimir> charger I used is dangerous for lipos 2016-08-27T19:37:18 < kakimir> charge mode doesn't include balancing 2016-08-27T19:37:30 < kakimir> there is seperate balancing charge mode 2016-08-27T19:37:46 < englishman> thats normal 2016-08-27T19:38:24 < englishman> if your back hasnt been overdischarged by leaving it on a soldering iron for too long it shouldnt need balancing that often 2016-08-27T19:40:35 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.31.28] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T19:41:43 < kakimir> I think the battery gains voltage way too fast now 2016-08-27T19:42:03 < kakimir> if I just had working charger it could count mAhs 2016-08-27T19:44:23 < aandrew> or you could use a shunt and measure it directly too 2016-08-27T19:47:04 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.31.28] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-27T19:56:02 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T20:00:04 -!- Rob235_ [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-27T20:07:49 < Sync> I usually just charge my lithium shit on my bench powersupply 2016-08-27T20:10:16 < kakimir> why 2016-08-27T20:10:19 < Tectu> uhm... doesn't that require special balancer and protection circuits to prevent it blowing up in your face, Sync? 2016-08-27T20:10:20 < kakimir> you never balance? 2016-08-27T20:10:57 < Sync> kakimir: why not? 2016-08-27T20:11:15 < Sync> I do watch cell voltages, but never really have to balance 2016-08-27T20:11:32 < kakimir> you let them balance themselfs? 2016-08-27T20:11:55 < BrainDamage> you can slap a simple resistor to limit current inrush and let them balance 2016-08-27T20:11:58 < Tectu> I have no ideas about batteries and stuff, but one thing I always hear over and over again is how easily lithium fucks up your face 2016-08-27T20:12:16 < Tectu> so protection circuits & balancer stuff seems to be a sane idea 2016-08-27T20:13:01 < Sync> well, my supplies are current limited and voltage regulated, so all a charger does basically 2016-08-27T20:13:40 < Sync> I have a lifepo in my motorcycle just yoloing about for around 2 years 2016-08-27T20:13:41 < Sync> still works fine 2016-08-27T20:13:48 < Laurenceb__> has anyone here used NSISI installer? 2016-08-27T20:14:09 < Laurenceb__> erm 2016-08-27T20:14:12 < Laurenceb__> NSIS 2016-08-27T20:14:22 < Tectu> yes 2016-08-27T20:14:27 < BrainDamage> N-ISIS? 2016-08-27T20:14:31 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-27T20:14:33 < Tectu> I dicked around with it and decided that I don't want to dick around with it and used something else, Laurenceb__ 2016-08-27T20:14:39 < Laurenceb__> heh ok 2016-08-27T20:14:43 < Laurenceb__> what did you use? 2016-08-27T20:14:57 < Laurenceb__> I need it to make self installing horse gui for windozer 2016-08-27T20:15:04 < Sync> hoers 2016-08-27T20:15:10 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, Qt has Qt Installer Framework 2016-08-27T20:15:13 < Laurenceb__> its fairly simple, exe and a bunch of dll 2016-08-27T20:15:14 < Laurenceb__> oh 2016-08-27T20:15:15 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, I use that, works quite well 2016-08-27T20:15:36 < Laurenceb__> I didnt see it here 2016-08-27T20:15:37 < Laurenceb__> https://wiki.qt.io/Building_Qt_Installers 2016-08-27T20:15:47 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, in that case the qt installer frame work will work well for you. I use it in a semi-pro application which allows managing plugins, creating desktop links and registering file extensions. works well 2016-08-27T20:16:23 < Tectu> it's total aids if you are using an RAM disk from ImDisk Shit Crop. 2016-08-27T20:16:42 < Laurenceb__> is qt installer framework found in qtcreator? 2016-08-27T20:17:09 < Tectu> Laurenceb__, no, it's a separate package 2016-08-27T20:17:12 < Laurenceb__> at I've used windeployqt from command line, but that just gives me a folder of dll crap 2016-08-27T20:17:13 < Laurenceb__> ok 2016-08-27T20:17:47 < Laurenceb__> is it gui or command line? 2016-08-27T20:17:53 < Tectu> command line 2016-08-27T20:17:55 < Tectu> but very easy 2016-08-27T20:17:56 < Tectu> works well 2016-08-27T20:18:02 < Tectu> you will still have to use windeployqt 2016-08-27T20:18:06 < Tectu> the installer is a level above that. 2016-08-27T20:18:07 < Laurenceb__> yeah ok 2016-08-27T20:18:23 < Laurenceb__> will try once I can be bothered to boot my ancient winxp box 2016-08-27T20:18:30 < Tectu> :D 2016-08-27T20:18:41 < Tectu> it also allows doing online repositories and stuff, works well for me. 2016-08-27T20:24:19 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-27T20:27:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T20:38:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-27T20:40:48 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T20:42:22 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.80] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T20:45:07 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T20:52:17 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h50n9-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T20:52:44 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-27T20:56:14 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T21:12:08 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-27T21:19:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:7059:7e63:feea:5f0b] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-27T21:49:51 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-27T21:53:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d435c1.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T22:49:02 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-27T22:51:16 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:7059:7e63:feea:5f0b] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T22:54:00 -!- Laurenceb___ [56adff8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.173.255.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T22:54:09 < Laurenceb___> sup 2016-08-27T22:54:13 < Laurenceb___> Tectu: ping 2016-08-27T23:08:20 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-27T23:23:00 * Laurenceb__ is failing to understand qt installer framework 2016-08-27T23:23:09 < Laurenceb__> they seem to have redefined the word "package" 2016-08-27T23:24:54 < Laurenceb__> I hate it when people redefine words to mean similar but different things to their normal usage 2016-08-27T23:49:30 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T23:51:06 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-27T23:51:06 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-27T23:52:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Day changed Sun Aug 28 2016 2016-08-28T00:00:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T00:15:43 < kakimir> welcome to development world 2016-08-28T00:17:53 < Laurenceb__> I think I worked it out 2016-08-28T00:18:07 < Laurenceb__> a package is a folder with all your dll in it 2016-08-28T00:18:12 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T00:23:08 < zyp> karlp, usb string stuff is mostly a quick hack I made for arcin, cardio just reuses the useful stuff from arcin 2016-08-28T00:23:27 < zyp> and yes, usb strings are utf-16, so using them makes sense 2016-08-28T00:24:23 < zyp> I want to make a better way to define them so I don't have to specify length by hand, but I haven't figured out a way yet 2016-08-28T00:25:02 < zyp> I was annoyed by it the other day I was adapting it to cardio, because I had to change the length of the string :p 2016-08-28T00:27:03 < zyp> karlp, for stuff like polling the usart SR, I like adding a process() method to the driver class so everything is part of the same class 2016-08-28T00:27:12 < zyp> so main doesn't have to deal with it 2016-08-28T00:30:36 < kakimir> how do I add/change stuff in order pending in mouser.com? 2016-08-28T00:30:44 < zyp> also, I should really change the usb buffer type from uint32_t* to void* 2016-08-28T00:33:56 < kakimir> okay they have this help center thing of course 2016-08-28T00:44:23 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T01:29:49 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/97p1wfctodhx.gif 2016-08-28T01:32:01 < kakimir> your creation upgrdman ? 2016-08-28T01:36:15 < upgrdman> nope 2016-08-28T01:38:59 < Laurenceb__> no genitalia visible 2016-08-28T01:39:49 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/a/D8s8Z 2016-08-28T01:45:49 < kakimir> aliens. 2016-08-28T01:47:34 < upgrdman> so many questions... http://i.imgur.com/NR4DfLw.gifv 2016-08-28T01:48:28 < kakimir> belgium blue 2016-08-28T01:48:51 < kakimir> you can see he's on steroids 2016-08-28T01:55:46 < ReadError> did dongs die again 2016-08-28T02:04:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:7059:7e63:feea:5f0b] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-28T02:05:56 < kakimir> he does that jap thing where they pump you full of opiates and place you in some chest for a month 2016-08-28T02:06:29 < kakimir> in almost dead state where heart rate is like 2bpm 2016-08-28T02:07:47 < kakimir> I wonder how they figured that staying in opiate OD for a month is something you want to do 2016-08-28T02:23:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T02:38:56 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-28T02:47:19 < Laurenceb__> Qt installer is running 2016-08-28T02:47:22 < Laurenceb__> this is pretty epin 2016-08-28T02:48:00 < Laurenceb__> pity its so hard to understand the documentation, I didnt realise it required install dialog thingy written in qt script 2016-08-28T03:05:05 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-61-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T03:07:06 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-61-240.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-28T03:08:02 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T03:30:52 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-28T03:55:53 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T04:00:24 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-28T04:03:47 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T04:08:47 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-28T04:14:21 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T04:27:33 < Laurenceb___> nice 2016-08-28T04:28:00 < Laurenceb___> the entry point _ZdlPvj could not be found in libstdc++-6 2016-08-28T04:30:04 < Laurenceb___> welcome in windozer 2016-08-28T04:30:07 < Laurenceb___> dll hell 2016-08-28T04:31:13 < Laurenceb___> cn't even find this one on google 2016-08-28T04:31:15 < Laurenceb___> nice 2016-08-28T04:31:39 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d42974.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T04:33:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@55d435c1.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-28T04:34:41 < aandrew> that looks more like welcome to C++ to me :-) 2016-08-28T04:34:48 < Laurenceb___> oh 2016-08-28T04:35:06 < Laurenceb___> libstdc++-6 is not libstdc++-6 2016-08-28T04:35:14 < Laurenceb___> there is customised version with qt 2016-08-28T04:35:15 < Laurenceb___> nice 2016-08-28T04:35:43 < Laurenceb___> now I "just" have to work out how to make windeployqt find it 2016-08-28T04:36:39 < Laurenceb___> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-46458 2016-08-28T04:36:42 < Laurenceb___> title is correct 2016-08-28T05:16:43 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-28T05:20:52 < dongs> The following limitations exist in the bootloader V 9.0: RAM data get corrupted when written via USART/SPI/I2C/USB interface 2016-08-28T05:20:55 < dongs> Description: Data write operation into RAM space via USART, SPI, I²C bus or USB results in wrong or no data written. 2016-08-28T05:20:58 < dongs> way2go, ST 2016-08-28T05:23:19 < emeb_mac> who uses RAM write in bootloader? 2016-08-28T05:23:43 < emeb_mac> and which part is that for? 2016-08-28T05:23:57 < dongs> STM32L476xG 2016-08-28T05:24:46 < dongs> hmm neat, STSW-STM32158 contains actual FIXED bootloader code 2016-08-28T05:24:47 < emeb_mac> ah - lowpower part 2016-08-28T05:24:48 < dongs> that you stick into flash 2016-08-28T05:26:25 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-28T05:28:01 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-28T05:44:15 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T05:49:20 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:08:20 < upgrdman> is it possible to determine how often the cpu (i7, not stm32) has a cache miss? 2016-08-28T06:08:40 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-28T06:21:06 -!- SadMan [~sadman@sadman.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:21:14 -!- SadMan [foobar@sadman.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:21:21 -!- esden_ [esden@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:21:59 -!- kakimir [~kakeman@sienimetsa.wtf] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:22:03 -!- ou5x [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:23:01 -!- Ecco_ [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:23:32 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:23:59 -!- akaWolf1 [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:25:12 -!- nikomo_ [~quassel@nikomo.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:25:56 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:25:57 -!- esden [esden@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:25:59 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:00 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:00 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:03 -!- nikomo [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:81cf::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:04 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:07 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:07 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:07 -!- hornang [~quassel@46.29.223.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:26:08 -!- tkoskine [tkoskine@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:26:09 -!- esden_ is now known as esden 2016-08-28T06:26:09 -!- akaWolf1 is now known as akaWolf 2016-08-28T06:26:25 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:26:26 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:28:06 -!- ka6sox [ka6sox@nasadmin/ka6sox] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:28:48 -!- hornang [~quassel@46.29.223.130] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:30:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-193-27-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:35:26 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-28T06:39:49 -!- forrestv [forrestv@unaffiliated/forrestv] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T06:54:06 < dongs> i bet o6 would know 2016-08-28T06:54:23 < dongs> and by "know" i mean quickly google and then proceed to autism the fuck out of it for the next 12 hours 2016-08-28T06:55:34 < emeb_mac> heh 2016-08-28T07:17:55 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T07:27:44 < upgrdman> anyone here done much opengl programming? 2016-08-28T07:30:12 < Rob235> not much at all 2016-08-28T07:32:08 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T07:37:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-28T07:37:36 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-193-27-124.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-28T07:58:03 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-28T07:59:03 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T08:25:42 -!- nikomo_ is now known as nikomo 2016-08-28T08:34:20 < ReadError> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oqfodY2Lz0 2016-08-28T08:38:17 < upgrdman> TIL some people dont know that the left lane is the passing (or at least "fast") lane 2016-08-28T08:38:50 -!- Laurenceb___ [56adff8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.173.255.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-28T08:39:59 < ReadError> 'powerlane' is what I was learned 2016-08-28T08:40:10 < PeterM> TIL that shit isnt plastered everywhere like it is here 2016-08-28T08:40:11 < ReadError> but yea its the most annoying shit ever 2016-08-28T08:40:38 < PeterM> Signs everywhere sday "keep left unless overtaking (we drive o nthe left not right, down under) 2016-08-28T08:41:53 < ReadError> the worst is when your cookin like 20+ over and some cuck just pulls out into the left lane going the speed limit 2016-08-28T08:42:01 < ReadError> gotta slam on the brakes, bullshit 2016-08-28T08:42:42 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-28T08:44:52 < PeterM> check yer mirrers before ya pull out 2016-08-28T09:00:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T09:05:32 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T09:30:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-28T10:04:31 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T10:09:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.200] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T10:09:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T10:27:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@mm-208-97-44-37.mgts.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-28T10:46:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-28T10:47:15 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:01:44 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-28T11:05:06 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:05:57 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:07:40 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28tg91ce86wymtx.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-28T11:12:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@c83-253-52-251.bredband.comhem.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:27:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.8] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:31:09 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:33:43 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-28T11:34:01 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:45:20 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-28T11:49:18 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T11:50:32 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.85.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-28T12:00:00 -!- zygron_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T12:00:18 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-28T12:14:09 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-28T12:19:55 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T12:23:44 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-28T12:26:13 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h50n9-lid-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-28T12:51:59 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T13:16:14 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-28T13:21:35 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T13:31:46 < Lux> ReadError: there aren't any laws regulating that in the us right ? 2016-08-28T13:32:02 < ReadError> Lux some places 2016-08-28T13:32:10 < Lux> here using the left lane only for overtaking is mandatory, but people seldomly get fined 2016-08-28T13:32:10 < ReadError> but its more an unwritten rule of the road 2016-08-28T13:32:44 < Lux> also that's how those stupid traffic jams out of nothing happen 2016-08-28T13:33:04 < ReadError> its really annoying 2016-08-28T13:33:09 < Lux> totally 2016-08-28T13:33:31 < ReadError> and im kind of surprised that more people dont know about it 2016-08-28T13:38:56 < Steffanx> Its what you get for getting your drivers license almost for nothing :P 2016-08-28T13:39:22 < Steffanx> At the age of 16. 2016-08-28T13:41:02 < Steffanx> How does that work in the us readerror. What you haveto do to get your license? 2016-08-28T13:41:28 < ReadError> you do a written test 2016-08-28T13:41:31 < ReadError> at 15 2016-08-28T13:41:43 < ReadError> then you can drive for a year with a licensed driver 18+ 2016-08-28T13:41:50 < ReadError> then you take a road exam 2016-08-28T13:42:06 < ReadError> but typically in a city so no highway 2016-08-28T13:43:56 < Steffanx> Here in dutchland you have to take lessons with someone that has the license to do so. And that person also has pedals etc. 2016-08-28T13:44:20 < Steffanx> Proper parking etc. Is also part of the exam? 2016-08-28T13:44:36 < kakimir> funland you have licence at 18 and that's that 2016-08-28T13:44:56 < Steffanx> Also no highway driving. Im glad thats part of the exam here 2016-08-28T13:45:27 < kakimir> you drive like 50hours with teacher so you propably can drive if you have licence 2016-08-28T13:45:30 < kakimir> also bankrupt 2016-08-28T13:45:58 < ReadError> Steffanx yea, parallel parking is part of the exam 2016-08-28T13:46:04 < Steffanx> Yes that kakimir 2016-08-28T13:47:20 < kakimir> have you been in muricas driving? 2016-08-28T13:48:54 < Steffanx> Me? No. 2016-08-28T13:49:12 < kakimir> no linerules and only half of drivers mind to use signal 2016-08-28T13:49:29 < ReadError> linerules? 2016-08-28T13:50:11 < kakimir> as keep on right unless you are going really fast and passing everybody 2016-08-28T13:51:38 < kakimir> and you can pass from both sides 2016-08-28T13:52:28 < kakimir> in muricas 2016-08-28T13:54:50 < kakimir> seems convinient but when everybody are passing everybody from both sides it's a mess 2016-08-28T13:55:36 < jadew> are you guys aware of a cheap webcam/camera module that can take good, high resolution photos - I don't care about video quality/fps 2016-08-28T13:56:17 < kakimir> you trying to microscope? 2016-08-28T13:56:47 < jadew> no, I want to have a dedicated camera for my whiteboard 2016-08-28T13:57:17 < jadew> taking photos with my DSLR is a bit over the hand 2016-08-28T13:58:06 < kakimir> whiteboard? 2016-08-28T13:58:38 < kakimir> as periodical upload to cloud or every time there is something of importance? 2016-08-28T13:59:04 < jadew> no, just to take a snapshot when I need it 2016-08-28T13:59:46 < jadew> but the camera has to be able to take sharp enough photos 2016-08-28T14:00:14 < kakimir> get ipcam 2016-08-28T14:00:37 < kakimir> full HD 2016-08-28T14:00:56 < jadew> how much is one? 2016-08-28T14:01:09 < Tectu> any USB 3.0 wizzards around? 2016-08-28T14:01:18 -!- sklv [~sklv@asokolov.plus.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 2016-08-28T14:01:29 < Tectu> can I directly connect two (windows) computers with a USB 3.0 cable that has a USB A plug on both ends to share transfer large files? 2016-08-28T14:02:03 < kakimir> jadew: something like.. 30? 2016-08-28T14:02:28 < jadew> kakimir, not a bad idea, thanks 2016-08-28T14:07:50 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-28T14:10:28 < jadew> ok, I don't think a cheap webcam will do it 2016-08-28T14:10:44 < jadew> tried it with my Lumia 920 phone, which has a great camera and the results are not great 2016-08-28T14:11:38 < jadew> I guess I'll have to make a stand for my old DSLR and use that one 2016-08-28T14:19:24 -!- BrianX [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-28T14:22:36 < dongs> fucking garbage tek. http://i.imgur.com/4FTSpXL.png crashed the shit while zooming around on a waveform. 2016-08-28T14:22:47 < dongs> and fuck them for not allowing triggering when its more like 50ms/div 2016-08-28T14:23:01 < dongs> what if I'm too fucking lazy for logic analyzer, why the fuck I cant t rigger at 100ms/div?? 2016-08-28T14:23:08 < dongs> prob ably even riglol trash can do it 2016-08-28T14:24:36 < jadew> what do you mean it's not allowing triggering? 2016-08-28T14:24:53 < jadew> in what scenario? 2016-08-28T14:24:57 < dongs> you cant trigger/oneshot when ms/div is > some value 2016-08-28T14:24:59 < dongs> any scenario 2016-08-28T14:25:07 < dongs> it just wont even display trrigger level and wont let you capture it 2016-08-28T14:25:14 < dongs> "one shot" just takes a fucking rolling screen worth of data 2016-08-28T14:25:20 < dongs> instead of starting on trigger 2016-08-28T14:25:49 < jadew> that's weird 2016-08-28T14:25:55 < jadew> and yeah, you're right, rigol can do it 2016-08-28T14:26:24 < jadew> wanna trade? 2016-08-28T14:26:33 < dongs> ha ha ya no thx 2016-08-28T14:26:41 < jadew> :) 2016-08-28T14:28:51 < PeterM> jadew ebay a canon s95 they're fairly old now so should go cheap but are perfect for this kinda thing 2016-08-28T14:28:55 < dongs> oh well, confirmed this shit was supposed to send back data in 85ms max, it replied in 84ms, sounds like it worked 2016-08-28T14:29:14 < dongs> < Tectu> can I directly connect two (windows) computers with a USB 3.0 cable that has a USB A plug on both ends to share transfer large files? 2016-08-28T14:29:18 < dongs> no 2016-08-28T14:29:21 < dongs> you can only do that with thunderbolt 3.0 2016-08-28T14:29:26 < dongs> and usb-c cable 2016-08-28T14:29:42 < PeterM> Tectu, that sounds like a good way to start a fire top me 2016-08-28T14:29:48 < dongs> yeah, i was just typign that 2016-08-28T14:29:53 < dongs> and you';ll probly end up burning one of the ports 2016-08-28T14:30:45 < jadew> PeterM, looks good, but I already have an old EOS 400d 2016-08-28T14:30:58 < Sync> dongs: you can switch off roll mode and have it trigger 2016-08-28T14:31:00 < jadew> looks like it might just do it 2016-08-28T14:31:07 < dongs> sync, where 2016-08-28T14:31:22 < PeterM> its small, turns on very quick and takes good shots\ 2016-08-28T14:31:23 < dongs> acquire? 2016-08-28T14:31:28 < jadew> oh, it's in roll mode? 2016-08-28T14:31:42 < dongs> i have no idea what "roll mode" is 2016-08-28T14:31:48 < jadew> then it's not in roll mode 2016-08-28T14:32:10 < Sync> iirc in acquire 2016-08-28T14:32:11 < jadew> roll mode is when instead of taking snapshots of the data it continously adds the reading at the end 2016-08-28T14:32:16 < jadew> making it scroll 2016-08-28T14:32:23 < jadew> instead of updating each time 2016-08-28T14:32:39 < dongs> yes, but it enters that automatically when ms/div is >> some number 2016-08-28T14:32:47 < dongs> no, nothing like that in acquire 2016-08-28T14:32:52 < jadew> yeah, you have Roll at the top 2016-08-28T14:32:58 < jadew> it might be in roll mode 2016-08-28T14:33:03 < jadew> dongs, see the horizontal menu 2016-08-28T14:33:17 < jadew> you might have a button for it 2016-08-28T14:34:22 < dongs> yes, changes to roll 2016-08-28T14:34:24 < dongs> but nowehre to cahnge it 2016-08-28T14:34:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.131.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-28T14:34:29 < dongs> after 20->40ms/div 2016-08-28T14:35:25 < dongs> Roll mode is disabled when you set the horizontal scale to 20 ms per division or faster. 2016-08-28T14:35:28 < dongs> ^ tek.com 2016-08-28T14:35:36 < Sync> don't make me go over to my scope 2016-08-28T14:35:43 < dongs> Roll mode is enabled when the trigger mode is auto and the horizontal scale is set to 40 ms/div or slower. 2016-08-28T14:35:46 < dongs> you can't cahnge this 2016-08-28T14:36:01 < dongs> Switching to Envelope or Average acquisition mode, using digital channels, using math waveforms, turning on a bus, or switching to Normal trigger will disable Roll mode. 2016-08-28T14:36:11 < dongs> i think my trigger is auto 2016-08-28T14:36:12 < dongs> lets see 2016-08-28T14:36:15 < Sync> yes 2016-08-28T14:36:20 < Sync> normal trigger will make it trigger 2016-08-28T14:36:27 < dongs> yeah, k 2016-08-28T14:36:29 < dongs> that'll work 2016-08-28T14:37:14 < dongs> k , looks like it triggered that 84ms thing nicely 2016-08-28T14:38:42 < dongs> thx bros & thx tek.com 2016-08-28T14:39:04 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.18] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T14:39:38 < dongs> > turning on a bus 2016-08-28T14:39:42 < dongs> do that @ 20M samples 2016-08-28T14:39:48 < dongs> then wait 20 seconds for it to analyze it 2016-08-28T14:41:44 < Sync> ye it is slow as balls 2016-08-28T14:49:14 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-28T14:49:34 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T14:55:30 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-28T14:59:06 < Tectu> dongs, thanks! 2016-08-28T14:59:13 < Tectu> PeterM, well I'd just put some snow on it in case of a fire 2016-08-28T15:01:19 < PeterM> Tectu, oddly snow is pretty good for that 2016-08-28T15:01:52 < PeterM> hard to pick up some liquid water and throw it, but snow, 10/10 2016-08-28T15:02:07 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-28T15:05:16 < PeterM> HNNNGGG http://page24.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/q126302925 2016-08-28T15:05:32 < dongs> lol what is this shitheap 2016-08-28T15:25:06 < kakimir> sup innovators 2016-08-28T15:25:19 < kakimir> tell me how to make money with crappy electronics design 2016-08-28T15:26:08 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-28T15:27:10 < PeterM> find crappy electronics design, get it to hurt you, sue, profit 2016-08-28T15:27:34 < PeterM> only works in the US though 2016-08-28T15:34:08 < Tectu> you get extra points if your pet died 2016-08-28T15:38:46 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.146] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T15:45:56 < Steffanx> pet in microwave has been done. 2016-08-28T15:50:43 < BrainDamage> why, poor pet 2016-08-28T15:51:17 < Tectu> How's the weather, Mr. BrainDamage ? 2016-08-28T15:51:28 < BrainDamage> clear, very humid 2016-08-28T15:51:47 < Tectu> temperature? 2016-08-28T15:52:00 < BrainDamage> 32 2016-08-28T15:52:24 < BrainDamage> the temp by itself is tollerable, the humidity is the sucking part 2016-08-28T15:52:43 < Tectu> yeah, it's usually not very humid here 2016-08-28T15:52:47 < Tectu> let me check 2016-08-28T15:55:09 < Tectu> 36% 2016-08-28T15:55:13 < Tectu> that's already quite high for this region 2016-08-28T15:56:02 < BrainDamage> 36% is pretty good, almost dry 2016-08-28T15:57:22 < BrainDamage> 60% here is the norm, currently according to the hydrometer it's 57% 2016-08-28T15:58:00 < BrainDamage> it starts to really suck when it peaks to70-80 2016-08-28T15:58:32 < Tectu> nah, can't really remember when it ever was >40% 2016-08-28T16:00:55 < Tectu> some people around here even have air humidifiers 2016-08-28T16:29:58 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.156.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-28T16:34:22 < englishman> PeterM: 21k for an FD.... Another 15k to a rotary specialist to make it run again... Do all Aussies love ancient jappu experimental cars? 2016-08-28T16:34:30 < zyp> sup? 2016-08-28T16:35:22 < englishman> sup zyp 2016-08-28T16:35:40 < zyp> idk, just got home, wondering if there's something interesting going on 2016-08-28T16:36:01 < englishman> is there ever anything interesting in ##stm32 2016-08-28T16:36:10 < zyp> quite often actually 2016-08-28T16:36:34 < Steffanx> do be mr negative englishman. We already have enough of those. 2016-08-28T16:36:38 < englishman> well, I'm going to make coffee, you are free to join me. 2016-08-28T16:37:25 < Steffanx> i would if you were my neighbour 2016-08-28T16:38:20 < englishman> these are interesting, but probably just to me http://i.imgur.com/nNed0yB.jpg 2016-08-28T16:40:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@c83-253-52-251.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-28T16:42:12 < Steffanx> what is it? 2016-08-28T16:43:08 < englishman> hallertauer 2016-08-28T16:45:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T16:48:16 < Steffanx> brewing much englishman? 2016-08-28T16:48:57 < englishman> little bit. 2016-08-28T16:49:12 < englishman> not stm32 controlled though. 2016-08-28T16:51:33 < Tectu> some guy on the uGFX community is building an STM32 controlled beer brewery 2016-08-28T16:51:40 < Tectu> American 2016-08-28T16:52:45 < Steffanx> moonshiner? 2016-08-28T16:53:01 < Steffanx> Tectu facilitated criminal activity. 2016-08-28T16:53:09 < Tectu> hah 2016-08-28T16:53:21 < Tectu> #SwissBadass 2016-08-28T16:53:28 < Tectu> east 1848 2016-08-28T16:53:35 < Tectu> est* 2016-08-28T16:56:15 < englishman> Link Tectu ? 2016-08-28T16:56:40 < Steffanx> Tectu broke nda. 2016-08-28T16:56:56 < englishman> I'd like to switch to electric pi(d) controller boil. 2016-08-28T16:57:37 < Tectu> englishman, there's nothing to see yet. he just started talking about it and now he's currently on a trip 2016-08-28T16:57:37 < Tectu> https://community.ugfx.io/topic/492-my-embedded-ebrewery/ 2016-08-28T17:00:29 < BrainDamage> acid trip? 2016-08-28T17:01:15 < englishman> Ah yeah. Not much. 2016-08-28T17:02:20 < Tectu> I'll let you know once he drops dem pics 2016-08-28T17:03:45 < dongs> how the fuck do I make TIM1 stay in OCIdleState when timer is disabled 2016-08-28T17:03:55 < dongs> regardless of what CCR was before i started 2016-08-28T17:04:05 < dongs> or do i have ot fucking change ccr 2016-08-28T17:09:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@88.131.62.38] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T17:10:07 < zyp> it's probably generated directly from a comparison between CCR and CNT, so I guess you'll just have to change it 2016-08-28T17:10:32 < dongs> hm i wonder if I can dick wiht BDTR instead 2016-08-28T17:10:43 < dongs> no, i just want to stop it from outputting 2016-08-28T17:11:02 < zyp> if you need to do it for multiple channels you can probably just override CNT to set it to 0 or something 2016-08-28T17:11:15 < dongs> nah just one 2016-08-28T17:11:18 < dongs> gonna see what bdtr does 2016-08-28T17:11:24 < dongs> as t hats a one register write 2016-08-28T17:11:36 < zyp> what's your application? how are you stopping the timer? 2016-08-28T17:12:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T17:12:15 < dongs> im not 2016-08-28T17:12:16 < dongs> well 2016-08-28T17:12:25 < dongs> stopping just TIM->CR1 to disable EN 2016-08-28T17:13:14 < dongs> hahhh 2016-08-28T17:13:26 < dongs> BDTR certainly... works 2016-08-28T17:13:35 < dongs> not very nicely tho 2016-08-28T17:14:14 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/OO4SxCJ.png 2016-08-28T17:14:16 < dongs> check out that stoppage 2016-08-28T17:16:03 < zyp> are you leaving it floating? 2016-08-28T17:16:44 < dongs> not anymore :) 2016-08-28T17:16:48 < dongs> looks good now. 2016-08-28T17:17:20 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T17:17:44 < dongs> it even kills taht stuff right off halfway into pwm pulse 2016-08-28T17:17:46 < dongs> perfect. 2016-08-28T17:18:12 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.200] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T17:22:40 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-28T17:28:28 < owl-v-> what's wrong with this video? it has low rating --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NifzpSOlY2k 2016-08-28T17:30:32 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.30.9] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T17:35:58 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@43.231.30.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-28T17:36:32 < Steffanx> no stm32 in there owl-v- 2016-08-28T17:36:52 < owl-v-> ok~ 2016-08-28T17:37:21 < owl-v-> :( 2016-08-28T17:40:25 < Steffanx> :P 2016-08-28T17:40:34 < Steffanx> How's 2nd best korea today owl-v-? 2016-08-28T17:43:42 < englishman> draws no power when the chip is off. but when it's powered up, it's still a PIC. 2016-08-28T17:47:06 < dongs> currently fixing work ATSAM3X project 2016-08-28T17:47:09 < dongs> MCU draws 200mA at idle 2016-08-28T17:47:12 < dongs> and visibly heating up 2016-08-28T17:47:15 < dongs> what hte fuck, zyp 2016-08-28T17:47:16 < englishman> i wonder if those downvotes are recent 2016-08-28T17:47:24 < englishman> haha, nice 2016-08-28T17:47:37 < dongs> like literally just 200mA doing nothing 2016-08-28T17:47:49 < dongs> whlie(1) { arduino(): ] 2016-08-28T17:47:51 < englishman> shorted all gpios 2016-08-28T17:47:52 < englishman> or what 2016-08-28T17:47:55 < dongs> nope 2016-08-28T17:47:59 < dongs> only liek 10 connected anyway 2016-08-28T17:48:16 < dongs> dude who made it says thats spec 2016-08-28T17:51:27 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/ehhiUCB.png 10C over ambient 2016-08-28T17:53:19 < Tectu> comic sans? 2016-08-28T17:53:23 < Tectu> no, that looks even worse than comic sans 2016-08-28T17:53:26 < Tectu> why. 2016-08-28T17:53:46 < dongs> That's Choco Cookie THANK YOU VERY FUCKING MUCH 2016-08-28T17:54:01 < dongs> the best font created by BEST KOREAN SAMSUNG 2016-08-28T17:54:11 < dongs> err Choco Cooky. 2016-08-28T17:54:16 < Tectu> oh boy 2016-08-28T17:55:43 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T17:55:56 < Rob235> hi 2016-08-28T17:57:55 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.123.78] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T17:59:04 < Tectu> No Rob, just no! 2016-08-28T17:59:09 < Rob235> :( 2016-08-28T17:59:10 < Rob235> sorry 2016-08-28T17:59:20 < Steffanx> lo Rob235 2016-08-28T18:01:08 < Rob235> this attopilot is getting in the way... 2016-08-28T18:02:34 < Rob235> I think I found a very clean way to do the batteries as long as I can fit the attopilot 180A in a tight spot 2016-08-28T18:03:47 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.72] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T18:04:13 < Rob235> will be nice having volt/curr readings too, gotta learn how to use adc 2016-08-28T18:16:11 < Sync> attn englishman http://sync-hv.de/autowagens/cao/brrrrrm.mp4 2016-08-28T18:16:31 < englishman> oooh 2016-08-28T18:16:38 < englishman> is this sync32emi 2016-08-28T18:16:55 < Rob235> Sync: you got a second? 2016-08-28T18:17:09 < zyp> is that a ford? 2016-08-28T18:17:42 < englishman> looks like honda zyp the motor is spinning bakwards 2016-08-28T18:18:45 < zyp> I had a roommate with an escort years ago, reminds me of that 2016-08-28T18:19:04 < Sync> englishman: yes 2016-08-28T18:19:11 < englishman> cool man! 2016-08-28T18:19:11 < Sync> Rob235: possibly 2016-08-28T18:19:13 < Sync> zyp: negative 2016-08-28T18:19:23 < Sync> mitsubishi 2016-08-28T18:19:28 < zyp> okay 2016-08-28T18:20:56 < englishman> ah yes the dsm 2016-08-28T18:21:31 < Sync> yep 2016-08-28T18:24:00 < Rob235> Sync: just wondering about the adaptive integral for PID. is that more to make sure the limit is low enough when say throttle is high that it won't affect much because theres no room to do it's thing, or is it mainly just to maximize the limit of I? or both? sorry I'm kinda high atm... also do you just subtract P and D from max and use that for max i? 2016-08-28T18:24:49 < Sync> I wonder if you can actually notice the engine direction in the inertia the car has 2016-08-28T18:25:35 < Sync> yes Rob235, you calculate P and D and subtract that from your maximum output 2016-08-28T18:25:38 < Sync> and limit I to that value 2016-08-28T18:25:58 < Sync> the idea is that the I term can only be as large as your controller can actually output 2016-08-28T18:26:19 < Sync> think about a container fill controller 2016-08-28T18:26:36 < Sync> there is no sense in commanding 10l/s if your water supply can only put in 1l/s 2016-08-28T18:28:21 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-28T18:28:53 < Rob235> that would be axis independent, correct? 2016-08-28T18:34:58 < Rob235> Sync: don't leave me yet! :( this is it (I hope :) ) 2016-08-28T18:35:00 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T18:38:07 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-28T18:40:44 < Sync> you do this per controller Rob235, yes 2016-08-28T18:40:59 < Rob235> ok just wanted to make sure, thanks for the help 2016-08-28T18:55:55 -!- brianx [~brianx@unaffiliated/brianx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T18:56:15 -!- Laurenceb___ [56adff8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.173.255.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T18:56:27 < Laurenceb___> Tectu: ping 2016-08-28T18:56:38 * Laurenceb___ is working on Qt installer shit 2016-08-28T18:56:58 < Tectu> Laurenceb___, pong 2016-08-28T18:57:08 < Laurenceb___> hi, I made some progress 2016-08-28T18:57:09 < Tectu> got herpes yet? 2016-08-28T18:57:12 < Laurenceb___> lulno 2016-08-28T18:57:25 < Tectu> Happy to hear that. It took me quite some time until I got that installer doing what I want it to do 2016-08-28T18:57:29 < Laurenceb___> I'm trying to add a checkbox to the installer to launch the gui 2016-08-28T18:57:36 < Tectu> okay 2016-08-28T18:57:40 < Laurenceb___> thats the only bit thats failing atm 2016-08-28T18:57:51 < Laurenceb___> if (isReadMeCheckBoxChecked) { installer.executeDetached("@TargetDir@\\EquineECG.exe" ); } 2016-08-28T18:58:10 < Laurenceb___> does that look ok? 2016-08-28T18:58:15 < Tectu> let me check my sorez 2016-08-28T18:58:18 < Tectu> in the meantime: fix your nick 2016-08-28T18:58:24 < Laurenceb___> lul 2016-08-28T18:58:32 -!- Laurenceb___ is now known as Laurenceb_ 2016-08-28T18:58:36 < Tectu> so you managed to add the checkbox to the GUI? 2016-08-28T18:58:41 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2016-08-28T18:59:02 < Tectu> give me a sec 2016-08-28T18:59:15 < Laurenceb_> well i copypastered a checkbox 2016-08-28T18:59:36 < Tectu> I think you need if (mycheckbox.checked) 2016-08-28T18:59:46 < Tectu> you don't query the checked property in your code 2016-08-28T18:59:54 < Tectu> I guess right now it just always executes the binary? 2016-08-28T19:00:07 < Laurenceb_> no, it never executes 2016-08-28T19:00:38 < Tectu> yeah you are definitely missing .checked 2016-08-28T19:00:39 < Laurenceb_> var isReadMeCheckBoxChecked = component.userInterface( "ReadMeCheckBoxForm" ).readMeCheckBox.checked; 2016-08-28T19:00:48 < Laurenceb_> on previous line 2016-08-28T19:01:26 < Tectu> ooh, I thought your var is the actual checkbox 2016-08-28T19:01:30 < Tectu> yeah taht seems good 2016-08-28T19:01:36 < Tectu> did you see this? https://doc.qt.io/qtinstallerframework/qt-installer-framework-openreadme-example.html 2016-08-28T19:01:42 < Tectu> it's exactly what you want to do 2016-08-28T19:01:52 < Laurenceb_> http://pastebin.com/fB092GD0 2016-08-28T19:02:00 < Laurenceb_> k reading 2016-08-28T19:02:43 < Laurenceb_> heh yeah thats where I copypastered from 2016-08-28T19:02:48 < Laurenceb_> but they are opening a file 2016-08-28T19:02:51 < ReadError> anyone used a peristaltic pump? 2016-08-28T19:02:59 < Laurenceb_> ReadError: yeah 2016-08-28T19:03:06 < ReadError> how easy to replace tube 2016-08-28T19:03:14 < Laurenceb_> depends on the pump 2016-08-28T19:03:24 < Laurenceb_> there are medical ones that are super n00b friendly 2016-08-28T19:03:31 < ReadError> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HRPKBAE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 2016-08-28T19:03:34 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, did you place some debug thing in the if{} to see whether the logic works? 2016-08-28T19:03:45 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: no lol, I'll try that now 2016-08-28T19:03:49 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, one issue I see is the way you are calling the binary, don't hard-core the binary name, that is a huge no-no 2016-08-28T19:03:58 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-08-28T19:04:34 < ReadError> need to dicker up some stm32 code to run it for titration 2016-08-28T19:04:57 < Laurenceb_> sounds fun ReadError 2016-08-28T19:05:02 < zyp> ReadError, looks like you just snap off the green cover and replace it 2016-08-28T19:05:18 < ReadError> zyp yea thats what i was thinking but noone has mentioned it 2016-08-28T19:05:23 < Laurenceb_> yeah looks quite easy to replace hose to me 2016-08-28T19:05:30 < ReadError> or theres no pics rather 2016-08-28T19:05:46 < zyp> well, I can't see any other reason why it would have a snap cover 2016-08-28T19:06:16 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, I am still digging through the docs, I can't remember ever having seen "executeDetached", only "execute" 2016-08-28T19:06:17 < ReadError> i really just need the pumphead 2016-08-28T19:06:44 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: I saw it in the qtcreator installer source 2016-08-28T19:08:23 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, sorry that I am not of more help. I spend a few evenings getting this thing working and never touched it again 2016-08-28T19:09:02 < Laurenceb_> k 2016-08-28T19:09:10 < Laurenceb_> I can't work out how console.log works 2016-08-28T19:09:26 < Laurenceb_> running the installer from terminal seems to detatch it 2016-08-28T19:09:55 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, as far as I remember there are only a few operations that you are allowed to call. There is a lot more in the API used by the installer afterwards, but you are not allowed to directly use them 2016-08-28T19:10:07 < Laurenceb_> ah 2016-08-28T19:10:13 < Laurenceb_> bbl, time for some food 2016-08-28T19:11:08 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, also, why are you doing that anyway? The installer has a built-in feature that adds a "run xxx now" option at the end of the of the wizard 2016-08-28T19:11:14 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.238] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T19:12:24 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, https://doc.qt.io/qtinstallerframework/ifw-globalconfig.html see RunProgram 2016-08-28T19:13:25 < wanderman> hi 2016-08-28T19:13:43 < wanderman> qt , ? 2016-08-28T19:13:51 < wanderman> i left qt, and now learning js 2016-08-28T19:13:51 < Tectu> yes . ! 2016-08-28T19:14:09 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-28T19:14:16 < wanderman> i planning to use , electron framework and monaca 2016-08-28T19:15:07 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.2 - http://znc.in] 2016-08-28T19:17:01 < wanderman> what is this .io domain ? 2016-08-28T19:17:14 < wanderman> all programming sites suddernly shifted to .io 2016-08-28T19:17:17 < wanderman> what is it ? 2016-08-28T19:19:21 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.io 2016-08-28T19:19:26 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, and regarding the name of the executable: Just use the app name as specified in the main config file. The installer will expand it to the proper platform dependent file extension (eg. .exe on windows, .app on macos and nothing on unix) 2016-08-28T19:20:10 < Tectu> > Labels for .io domains may only contain alphanumeric characters and hyphens and must be between 3 and 63 characters long. 2016-08-28T19:20:14 < Tectu> that seems to be wrong, see qt.io 2016-08-28T19:20:17 -!- Thaolia [~thaolia@80.90.49.230] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T19:20:38 < Tectu> also the pricing seems to be off. I paid a lot more for ugfx.io 2016-08-28T19:21:02 < wanderman> zyp, thank you , i already read it. but i can't see any link between why suddern shifting of sites to this io 2016-08-28T19:21:18 < wanderman> wiki doesn't explain why it is 2016-08-28T19:21:25 < zyp> «IO is also commonly used in IT as an abbreviation for input/output, which makes the .io domain useful for domain hacks and services wanting to be associated with technology.» 2016-08-28T19:21:32 < Tectu> wanderman, then you didn't read it entirely :) 2016-08-28T19:21:34 < zyp> that's all there's to it 2016-08-28T19:21:44 < Tectu> < .io has also been taken as an abbreviation of "Internet organization".[citation needed] In addition, .io domains are often used for open source projects, APIs (such as put.io API and pen.io API) and online services.[14]> 2016-08-28T19:21:49 < zyp> «.io sounds cool, let's pick that» 2016-08-28T19:21:58 < Tectu> like "zyp" 2016-08-28T19:22:07 < wanderman> :D 2016-08-28T19:22:10 < Tectu> no reason other than being the coolest on IRC 2016-08-28T19:23:03 < zyp> Tectu, sounds like you overpaid, .io seems to be $35 at my registrar 2016-08-28T19:23:23 < Tectu> zyp, do they charge per domain length? 2016-08-28T19:23:46 < zyp> I tried various ones 2016-08-28T19:24:01 < Tectu> transip.eu is happy to charge 70eur for *.io 2016-08-28T19:24:12 < zyp> I can have xgfx.io for $35, I don't see why ugfx.io would be more expensive 2016-08-28T19:24:48 < zyp> never heard about transip.eu, but they're probably just expensive as fuck 2016-08-28T19:25:03 < Tectu> recommended by Mr. Steffanx himself 2016-08-28T19:25:16 < wanderman> you remember qt, shifted to qt.it domain few months ago 2016-08-28T19:25:21 < wanderman> now again shifted to qt.io 2016-08-28T19:25:21 < Tectu> I moved from a swiss registrar to transip.eu, which is like 50% savings already 2016-08-28T19:25:27 < zyp> so moral of the story is «don't trust Steffanx»? 2016-08-28T19:25:35 < Tectu> lol no 2016-08-28T19:26:26 < Tectu> zyp, what registrar are you using? 2016-08-28T19:26:29 < zyp> their .com price seems fair 2016-08-28T19:26:34 < zyp> gandi.net 2016-08-28T19:26:35 < Tectu> also .ch 2016-08-28T19:26:38 < Tectu> and .org 2016-08-28T19:29:16 < Tectu> I pay 19eur for embedded.pro, I wanted to get programming.pro but the registrar had that on their "premium" list. The price tag was 20k USD 2016-08-28T19:29:48 < Tectu> swiss.engineer was available for 7k per year, insane.engineer for 19.- 2016-08-28T19:34:14 < zyp> «The domain, masturbation.science, is unavailable.» «Here are some results in other extensions that might interest you.» «* masturbation.family» 2016-08-28T19:35:23 < zyp> masturbation.party and masturbation.center are also available 2016-08-28T19:35:38 < zyp> also masturbation.guide 2016-08-28T19:35:52 < Tectu> LOL 2016-08-28T19:36:06 < zyp> yeah, masturbation.lol is also in the list of available options 2016-08-28T19:37:24 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: back 2016-08-28T19:37:40 < Laurenceb_> ok but RunProgram is in the xml config file right? 2016-08-28T19:37:50 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, yes 2016-08-28T19:37:51 < Laurenceb_> and needs full file path O_o 2016-08-28T19:38:02 < Tectu> @TargetDir@/ElixPad 2016-08-28T19:38:07 < Tectu> there you go, full path :p 2016-08-28T19:38:08 < Laurenceb_> oh you can have @foo@ 2016-08-28T19:38:11 < Laurenceb_> got it 2016-08-28T19:38:17 < zyp> if joseph fritzl made a website, basement.family is available for $31 2016-08-28T19:38:23 < Laurenceb_> lul zyp 2016-08-28T19:38:25 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-28T19:39:24 < Laurenceb_> Fritzl seriously underperformed to be honest 2016-08-28T19:39:26 < zyp> haha, dead.family is a premium domain, costs $90 2016-08-28T19:39:57 < Laurenceb_> he should have indoctrinated his basement dwellers to worship him as a god and extend his underground lair - free labour 2016-08-28T19:40:18 < Laurenceb_> and exponentially increasing population, just needs food supply 2016-08-28T19:40:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@88.131.62.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-28T19:40:24 < Laurenceb_> Fritzl failed 2016-08-28T19:40:47 < Laurenceb_> underground republic of Fritzland 2016-08-28T19:41:03 < zyp> uh, I think he did force them to dig out more room 2016-08-28T19:41:07 < ReadError> wanderman 2016-08-28T19:41:12 < ReadError> google is killing chrome apps 2016-08-28T19:41:15 < ReadError> so yea 2016-08-28T19:41:25 < Tectu> austrians... 2016-08-28T19:41:36 < wanderman> ? what do you mean 2016-08-28T19:41:47 < wanderman> ReadError, 2016-08-28T19:42:16 < ReadError> http://blog.chromium.org/2016/08/from-chrome-apps-to-web.html 2016-08-28T19:45:12 < wanderman> i see 2016-08-28T19:45:33 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: works now, thanks 2016-08-28T19:45:39 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, welcome o/ 2016-08-28T19:46:04 < Laurenceb_> had to manually copy a load of dlls tho lol 2016-08-28T19:46:18 < Laurenceb_> windeloyqt.exe is a disaster zone 2016-08-28T19:46:32 < Steffanx> i never recommended transip Tectu. i only said i used them 2016-08-28T19:46:34 < ReadError> mmm Laurenceb_ 2016-08-28T19:46:35 < ReadError> keep going 2016-08-28T19:46:43 < ReadError> Laurenceb_ i like the way your fingers speak 2016-08-28T19:46:44 < Steffanx> dont trust everything Tectu says, zyp ;) 2016-08-28T19:46:56 < Tectu> you said they are good :p 2016-08-28T19:47:08 < Steffanx> i said i liked their control panel 2016-08-28T19:47:15 < Laurenceb_> ReadError: "Cannot find GCC installation directory" 2016-08-28T19:47:25 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, yeah, I posted about that on the qt forum 2016-08-28T19:47:30 < Laurenceb_> so it misses a bunch of mingw stuff 2016-08-28T19:47:43 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, it's an issue with the latest build, it didn't use to be that fucked up 2016-08-28T19:47:45 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: I just manually copied after raging for about 30 minutes 2016-08-28T19:47:51 < Laurenceb_> ok 2016-08-28T19:47:52 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, you should have just asked :p 2016-08-28T19:47:56 < Laurenceb_> heh 2016-08-28T19:48:10 < Laurenceb_> it was only 30s to fix with copy and paste 2016-08-28T19:48:58 < Laurenceb_> only thing I am missing now is an uninstall tool 2016-08-28T19:49:01 < Steffanx> ReadError has been talking to wanderman ? 2016-08-28T19:50:25 < Laurenceb_> but nobody would ever want to remove my buggy shitfest software 2016-08-28T19:50:28 < wanderman> he mentioned, cromeum want people to shift to electron platform 2016-08-28T19:50:38 < wanderman> ste 2016-08-28T19:50:40 < wanderman> Steffanx, 2016-08-28T19:50:44 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, it has that too 2016-08-28T19:50:52 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, it does install, update, maintain, add/remove and uninstall 2016-08-28T19:51:02 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, it does complete uninstall just fine 2016-08-28T19:51:20 < Laurenceb_> hmm I dont see any uninstall on start menu 2016-08-28T19:51:24 < Tectu> Steffanx, yes he has, he really likes the way his fingers speak 2016-08-28T19:51:27 < Laurenceb_> does that need extra config? 2016-08-28T19:51:58 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, the uninstall thing is the same as the update and add/remove thing. just look for a thing named "maintenance tool" 2016-08-28T19:52:12 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, on windows you can also uninstall by going to the "uninstall crap" section of the system control panel 2016-08-28T19:52:36 < Steffanx> How did you come up with this sentence mr wanderman? 2016-08-28T19:53:21 < wanderman> hehe, i'm still newbie 2016-08-28T19:53:29 < wanderman> sorry 2016-08-28T19:53:45 < Steffanx> i mean: "I like the way your fingers speak", that sentence. 2016-08-28T19:54:05 < Laurenceb_> Tectu: I dont see any maintainance tool, but during installation it said it was installing the maintainance tool 2016-08-28T19:56:30 < Laurenceb_> oh I see now , under Add and Remove Programs 2016-08-28T19:56:32 < Laurenceb_> v nice 2016-08-28T19:56:51 < Laurenceb_> thats good enough for me 2016-08-28T19:58:43 < wanderman> Steffanx, my frist love is online , i used to like what she type. lol 2016-08-28T19:58:54 < wanderman> love was over online * just typing * 2016-08-28T19:59:09 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, good :) 2016-08-28T19:59:22 < Tectu> I hope you're not talking about me 2016-08-28T19:59:35 < Laurenceb_> wanderman you are a very weird guy 2016-08-28T19:59:44 < Laurenceb_> you will fit in well here 2016-08-28T20:00:53 < wanderman> i used to visit freenode, to get advices on technicial subjects. 2016-08-28T20:01:07 < wanderman> i'm very thankful to all you guys here, very educated, and helped me 2016-08-28T20:01:09 < Tectu> ##stm32 is more helpful for other advice 2016-08-28T20:01:42 < ReadError> I had VD a bit back, Laurenceb_ helped me diagnose it 2016-08-28T20:01:48 < ReadError> very useful channel 2016-08-28T20:02:20 < Tectu> also lots of insights of nude showering habits of the different countries 2016-08-28T20:02:25 < Tectu> pricing of escorts 2016-08-28T20:02:27 < Tectu> what else did we have? 2016-08-28T20:02:32 < Steffanx> What the hell is a VD ReadError? Vaginal Delivery? 2016-08-28T20:02:33 < wanderman> i could manage to drive, thermal printer mechanism derectly by stm32f103, 72Mhz . even momocrome pictures clearly. 2016-08-28T20:02:38 < ReadError> Steffanx STD 2016-08-28T20:02:45 < ReadError> covers all 2016-08-28T20:02:57 < Steffanx> Sexy. 2016-08-28T20:03:06 < ReadError> venereal diseases 2016-08-28T20:03:08 < Tectu> wanderman, most thermal printers I saw have a simple serial interface (like UART-ish) Shouldn't be hard. 2016-08-28T20:03:08 < ReadError> very 2016-08-28T20:03:23 < wanderman> no, Tectu i drove the mecanism derectly, 2016-08-28T20:03:24 < wanderman> :D 2016-08-28T20:03:36 < wanderman> not having a conctroler board, which having serial interface 2016-08-28T20:03:43 < Laurenceb_> at what level? 2016-08-28T20:03:48 < Laurenceb_> the head directly? 2016-08-28T20:03:53 < wanderman> yes 2016-08-28T20:03:59 < Laurenceb_> interesting 2016-08-28T20:04:09 < Laurenceb_> does it have very hig peak current? 2016-08-28T20:04:14 < wanderman> it has a stepper motor, 2016-08-28T20:04:24 < wanderman> around 5ms triggering 2016-08-28T20:04:37 < wanderman> 7cm/s speed i drove it 2016-08-28T20:04:40 < Laurenceb_> *triggering intensifies* 2016-08-28T20:04:45 < Tectu> got any link? 2016-08-28T20:04:51 < wanderman> 384dots/2inch head 2016-08-28T20:04:52 < wanderman> :D 2016-08-28T20:04:54 < Laurenceb_> yeah but what about the head? 2016-08-28T20:05:03 < Laurenceb_> how did you drive that 2016-08-28T20:05:09 < Tectu> Laurenceb_ is our link master but he only shitposts crap so... a link to something semi-related would be good for a change 2016-08-28T20:05:16 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, EM drive 2016-08-28T20:05:41 < Laurenceb_> wate powered car bro 2016-08-28T20:05:46 < Laurenceb_> *water 2016-08-28T20:06:09 < wanderman> http://sii-thermalprinters.com/thermal-printers/thermal-printer-mechanism.aspx 2016-08-28T20:07:51 < Laurenceb_> rage no free download 2016-08-28T20:08:59 < wanderman> out of 384 dots, only 64dots should be fired at once 2016-08-28T20:09:06 < wanderman> otherwise, head get burned 2016-08-28T20:10:07 < Laurenceb_> so you drive the heater elements over the FFC ? 2016-08-28T20:10:11 < Tectu> sounds like when Laurenceb_ and I hit the disco 2016-08-28T20:10:16 < wanderman> using mikroc fontcreater, i managed to make nice fonts 2016-08-28T20:10:17 < Tectu> only one can be on the dance floor at a time 2016-08-28T20:10:43 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-28T20:10:45 < Laurenceb_> does that module do the heater element driving for you or now? 2016-08-28T20:10:49 < Laurenceb_> *not 2016-08-28T20:11:47 < wanderman> can you see, the ground is very thick on ffc 2016-08-28T20:12:25 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.130.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-28T20:13:47 < wanderman> i have forgot most of stuff now, i did it around 2 years ago. 2016-08-28T20:20:48 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T20:23:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T20:23:34 < Tectu> Laurenceb_, can I close my installer file stuff? Are you officially done? 2016-08-28T20:24:17 < wanderman> you guys working office now ? 2016-08-28T20:24:26 < Laurenceb_> heh yes thanks 2016-08-28T20:24:42 < wanderman> ? 2016-08-28T20:24:50 < wanderman> it is 11pm now 2016-08-28T20:24:57 < wanderman> here 2016-08-28T20:25:00 < Tectu> stop lying 2016-08-28T20:25:11 < wanderman> who 2016-08-28T20:25:11 < Tectu> it is 19:25 2016-08-28T20:25:12 < Tectu> here 2016-08-28T20:25:17 < Tectu> get your facts right 2016-08-28T20:25:23 < wanderman> i'm from asia 2016-08-28T20:25:47 < Tectu> doesn't change the fact that it's 19:25 here 2016-08-28T20:25:55 < wanderman> haha 2016-08-28T20:27:16 < Steffanx> its not 19:25 here Tectu. 2016-08-28T20:27:26 < Tectu> I know 2016-08-28T20:27:30 < Tectu> It's clearly 19:27 2016-08-28T20:27:35 < Tectu> unlike wanderman I am not talking shit all day long 2016-08-28T20:27:47 < Steffanx> Lies. 2016-08-28T20:27:50 < Tectu> after all, everybody likes the way my fingers speak 2016-08-28T20:27:57 < Steffanx> And be nice mr Tectu. 2016-08-28T20:28:00 < Tectu> okay 2016-08-28T20:28:16 < wanderman> :D 2016-08-28T20:28:21 < wanderman> it is ok, guys 2016-08-28T20:28:32 < wanderman> i know what i deserve 2016-08-28T20:28:42 < wanderman> so does god 2016-08-28T20:28:42 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T20:29:07 < wanderman> i don't mind, what you believe what i deserve 2016-08-28T20:29:55 -!- Laurenceb_ [56adff8c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.173.255.140] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2016-08-28T20:30:16 < Steffanx> even when you end up in hell, that doesnt me Tectu has be unfriendly ;) 2016-08-28T20:30:46 < Tectu> Tectu is never unfriendly 2016-08-28T20:30:54 < Tectu> that's underdahl, remember, Mr. Steffanx 2016-08-28T20:31:14 < Fleck> right... 2016-08-28T20:32:17 < Tectu> I bet Fleck came to tell us that it's in fact 20:32 :p 2016-08-28T20:33:50 < wanderman> hell yeah 2016-08-28T20:35:01 < Tectu> where in asia are you located at, Mr. wanderman ? 2016-08-28T20:35:24 < wanderman> where my ip says 2016-08-28T20:35:25 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-28T20:36:05 < Steffanx> maldives, but that is a lie. 2016-08-28T20:36:17 < wanderman> why ? 2016-08-28T20:36:24 < Steffanx> God doesn't like it when you do that. 2016-08-28T20:36:59 < wanderman> and many more god doesn't 2016-08-28T20:37:44 < Tectu> I hope he doesn't like time zones. time zones are the worst 2016-08-28T20:39:59 < wanderman> what is new in embedded world 2016-08-28T20:40:13 < Tectu> microchip bought atmel 2016-08-28T20:40:26 < wanderman> any hope for MCU save from soft errors ? 2016-08-28T20:40:47 < wanderman> which drasticly lower realibility of MCU 2016-08-28T20:42:06 < owl-v-> Steffanx: the second best Korea won't be able to defend itself against the best Korea's Nuclear 2016-08-28T20:42:37 < wanderman> who gonna be USA president ? 2016-08-28T20:42:46 < wanderman> i wish if it is a man 2016-08-28T20:42:47 < wanderman> lol 2016-08-28T20:42:53 < owl-v-> lol 2016-08-28T20:43:00 < Tectu> lol 2016-08-28T20:43:15 < owl-v-> duck duck duck duck down 2016-08-28T20:43:30 < Steffanx> hows 2nd best korea owl-v-? 2016-08-28T20:45:11 < owl-v-> 2nd best korea is trying to deploy thaad systems. where? that... i don't know yet. 2016-08-28T20:45:20 < wanderman> microwave readiation guns, can burn any electronic system at distence 2016-08-28T20:45:26 < Laurenceb__> http://www.aero-news.net/images/content/general/2016/Klyde-Aug-26-2016.jpg 2016-08-28T20:45:52 < englishman> I think wanderman is even less funny than r2tryhard 2016-08-28T20:46:21 < Steffanx> poor englishman. 2016-08-28T20:46:58 < wanderman> a bored man can't be funny , englishman 2016-08-28T20:48:36 < Steffanx> so better find yourself some stm32 project. 2016-08-28T20:49:58 < owl-v-> hm.. stm32 don't have small packages like sot23-6,tssop8,tssop14 :( 2016-08-28T20:50:32 < Tectu> yeah, you want stm3,2 for small stuff 2016-08-28T20:50:43 < englishman> stm8 has 3x3 qfn20 2016-08-28T20:51:09 < Steffanx> tssop20 is there too owl-v- 2016-08-28T20:51:10 < owl-v-> that's not stm32, englishman 2016-08-28T20:51:56 < wanderman> i like do something that is marketable 2016-08-28T20:52:00 < englishman> sot23-6 cortex-m sounds pretty useless tho 2016-08-28T20:52:02 < wanderman> i need money badly 2016-08-28T20:52:12 < Tectu> just buy some, wanderman 2016-08-28T20:52:19 < Steffanx> ask Tectu for munny. 2016-08-28T20:52:20 < englishman> and qfn20 3x3 is the same size 2016-08-28T20:53:54 < owl-v-> do you solder qfn20 by hand? 2016-08-28T20:54:41 < Rob235> Sync: you around? 2016-08-28T20:54:45 < Sync> yes 2016-08-28T20:55:03 < Rob235> so I started implementing it but have a question 2016-08-28T20:55:25 < Rob235> do you just clamp the I value or the error_sum? 2016-08-28T20:56:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T20:56:08 < englishman> owl-v-: yes its not that hard 2016-08-28T20:58:30 < Sync> Rob235: that depends what those values are in your controller 2016-08-28T20:58:39 < Sync> you need to clamp the internal value as well 2016-08-28T20:58:50 < owl-v-> hm.. stm32 with ufqfpn28 .. 2016-08-28T21:01:14 < Rob235> sync you dont have any links for anything on this do you? 2016-08-28T21:01:50 < wanderman> hackvana alive ? 2016-08-28T21:02:04 < wanderman> it is ! 2016-08-28T21:02:33 < Tectu> sync got a groupie? 2016-08-28T21:02:58 < Sync> Rob235: I'd have to look for one 2016-08-28T21:03:01 < Sync> Tectu: seems like it 2016-08-28T21:03:18 < Tectu> Sync, congratulations or condolences? 2016-08-28T21:03:50 < Sync> idk 2016-08-28T21:04:46 < Rob235> heh I'm just trying to figure out if it's even worth implementing it. I can stop asking questions if you want 2016-08-28T21:05:08 < Rob235> trying to make some modifications before new props get here 2016-08-28T21:05:17 < owl-v-> englishman, I don't think stm32 has qfn20 2016-08-28T21:06:03 < Sync> just doit Rob235 2016-08-28T21:06:19 < Sync> rewrapped the wiring loom, suprisingly unannoying. 2016-08-28T21:06:46 < Rob235> I have to understand it before I implement it though. 2016-08-28T21:07:12 < Rob235> and there are a couple small details I need to figure out first 2016-08-28T21:08:05 < Rob235> I dont feel like thinking about it right now though 2016-08-28T21:08:10 < Rob235> gonna work on the wiring for a bit 2016-08-28T21:08:32 < Sync> stop injecting mariuanas 2016-08-28T21:08:44 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-28T21:10:56 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-28T21:18:45 < Rob235> noes 2016-08-28T21:20:22 < Steffanx> dab 2016-08-28T21:21:03 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T21:21:34 < Rob235> how else can you write code 2016-08-28T21:25:25 < Tectu> class made does it on LSD 2016-08-28T21:25:30 < Tectu> but then again, he only does Java and Python 2016-08-28T21:27:14 < Steffanx> mate* 2016-08-28T21:27:53 < Tectu> indeed 2016-08-28T21:28:16 < Steffanx> i know. 2016-08-28T21:36:40 < upgrdman> http://imgur.com/0ix5tSX 2016-08-28T21:38:08 < Laurenceb__> home of one of these for sure https://i.sli.mg/RoNY06.png 2016-08-28T21:38:48 < Laurenceb__> irc irl http://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/5243029+_94226e80cfea0323ea7ff45c24f238fc.jpg 2016-08-28T21:39:34 < Tectu> lol'd hard http://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Choker+meme_514bd8_6012957.jpg 2016-08-28T21:40:58 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T21:41:33 < Steffanx> you better check your first imgur link Laurenceb__ 2016-08-28T21:41:52 < Steffanx> (and only one) 2016-08-28T21:42:00 < Tectu> Steffanx, thank you, it was killing me, but I didn't want to be the douche if it turned out to be what he wanted to post 2016-08-28T21:42:17 < Laurenceb__> I canna copypasta 2016-08-28T22:02:41 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@202.153.86.238] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-28T22:02:41 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T22:03:25 < Steffanx> hah wanderman is hiding now. 2016-08-28T22:04:51 < wanderman> being naked , no good, right ? 2016-08-28T22:04:53 < wanderman> :D 2016-08-28T22:05:01 < wanderman> just worn a cloak 2016-08-28T22:05:27 < Steffanx> Don't we all sit naked in front of our keyboard? 2016-08-28T22:05:43 < wanderman> i'm full dress 2016-08-28T22:05:54 < Steffanx> dress :P 2016-08-28T22:06:03 < wanderman> poor english , 2016-08-28T22:06:16 < wanderman> i want money, no intention improve enlgish 2016-08-28T22:06:29 < Steffanx> One can do both. 2016-08-28T22:06:52 < wanderman> yes, 2016-08-28T22:08:08 < wanderman> i need to go 2016-08-28T22:08:13 < wanderman> bye bye all 2016-08-28T22:08:14 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has quit [Quit: bye] 2016-08-28T22:09:26 < Laurenceb__> what a weirdo 2016-08-28T22:09:39 < Laurenceb__> even by ##stm32 weird levels 2016-08-28T22:10:38 < Steffanx> Im not sure if i can confirm that. It's probably just his bad english. 2016-08-28T22:23:44 < PaulFertser> I was at a nude beach today. Laurenceb__ would love that, plenty of gays present. 2016-08-28T22:24:08 < Steffanx> i heard from r2com that all russians turned gay. 2016-08-28T22:25:10 < PaulFertser> Starting with him? 2016-08-28T22:25:19 < Steffanx> Could be, yes. 2016-08-28T22:26:11 < PaulFertser> That's unlikely to be true. Also, that beach is in Montenegro, not russia. 2016-08-28T22:26:28 < Steffanx> oh PaulFertser is on holiday? 2016-08-28T22:26:37 < PaulFertser> Yep 2016-08-28T22:26:52 < Steffanx> Europe traveling or.. ? 2016-08-28T22:27:14 < PaulFertser> No, just montenegro. 2016-08-28T22:27:50 < Steffanx> wouldn't be my first choice, but looks like a nice play for a vacation for sure 2016-08-28T22:27:58 < PaulFertser> I do not travel to Europe because you europeans decided that I must give you all of my fingerprints :/ 2016-08-28T22:28:05 < Sync> englishman: kek, just built in fake ALS as part of the modular rev limiter 2016-08-28T22:28:12 < Sync> it is so loud with the open pipe 2016-08-28T22:28:40 < Steffanx> Montenegro is europe right? 2016-08-28T22:28:59 < PaulFertser> Not part of Schengen Area, and no visas for russians. 2016-08-28T22:29:43 < PaulFertser> But I can't just hop on a ferry to Italy to compare the places. 2016-08-28T22:32:28 < Steffanx> I'm glad you can no get an ID card without giving finger prints here now. They decided to stop with that for an reason i dont remember 2016-08-28T22:32:33 < Steffanx> -n 2016-08-28T22:32:46 < Steffanx> *no 2016-08-28T22:32:51 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: but you give only 2 or so, not all of them. 2016-08-28T22:32:59 < PaulFertser> Unlike us second-class humans. 2016-08-28T22:33:22 < Steffanx> nah, now you can get that card without giving any finger prints. 2016-08-28T22:33:28 < Steffanx> You still have to when you get a passport. 2016-08-28T22:33:39 < BrainDamage> is it the principle or what? once you give a pair or give all doesn't change a lot 2016-08-28T22:33:56 < BrainDamage> unless you plan to grab all things with the spare fingers 2016-08-28T22:35:04 < Steffanx> One just takes this cancer medicine that was in the new lately. For some reason it would "remove" the friction ridges so no finger prints :D 2016-08-28T22:35:10 < Steffanx> *news 2016-08-28T22:36:45 < Steffanx> Maybe that's more :( then :D though. 2016-08-28T22:37:09 < Sync> you can also just hold onto plastic for a few hours before you go there 2016-08-28T22:37:16 < PaulFertser> BrainDamage: e.g. I'd loosing the ability to use my fingerprint as a security token. Not that I should want to, according to CCC Merkel photo research but still. I also feel it as some kind of abuse, as if I am a criminal without doing any crime. 2016-08-28T22:38:17 < Steffanx> Hmm, i actually never thought about that first part PaulFertser. 2016-08-28T22:38:33 < BrainDamage> so it's on principle, and yes, you shouln't use any biometric as security token, they are "secrets" that you leave everywhere and you can't revoke 2016-08-28T22:38:44 < Sync> ^ 2016-08-28T22:38:55 < Sync> I think the vein cameras are pretty ok tho 2016-08-28T22:39:47 < Steffanx> is that a real thing? 2016-08-28T22:40:39 < PaulFertser> BrainDamage: yes, I feel offended by Schengen and USA and UK policies regarding that. Don't you think it's unfair? 2016-08-28T22:40:48 < BrainDamage> yes, i agree 2016-08-28T22:41:17 < Sync> Steffanx: yes 2016-08-28T22:41:23 < Sync> they use NIR to look for them 2016-08-28T22:41:34 < Sync> http://www.hitachi-ics.co.jp/product/english/images/fv02.gif 2016-08-28T22:45:41 < kakimir> looks Laurenceb__ stuff 2016-08-28T22:46:56 < Sync> I should try to build one 2016-08-28T22:47:01 < Sync> the hot mirror stuff seems to be neato 2016-08-28T22:51:05 < kakimir> good experiment if you are able to carry it out 2016-08-28T22:52:17 < Sync> well it is not incredibly hard to do 2016-08-28T22:52:24 < Sync> nir lightning + camera 2016-08-28T22:55:50 < zyp> I've used stuff with vein cameras + pin for authentication 2016-08-28T22:56:23 < kakimir> I mean the software shiet Sync 2016-08-28T22:56:40 < Sync> it is called contrast enhancement? 2016-08-28T22:56:59 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T23:01:23 < kakimir> propably not 2016-08-28T23:01:25 < kakimir> ? 2016-08-28T23:06:46 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-28T23:11:43 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-28T23:25:04 < Laurenceb__> looks nice 2016-08-28T23:28:09 < Steffanx> just implement this kakimir http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3231585/ 2016-08-28T23:28:37 < Steffanx> sadly implementing papers and have the same results is "never" possible :P 2016-08-28T23:28:38 < kakimir> how is brexit going Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-28T23:28:40 < kakimir> how soon? 2016-08-28T23:28:50 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-28T23:28:50 < Laurenceb__> dunno 2016-08-28T23:29:02 < Laurenceb__> maybe next year, they are delaying 2016-08-28T23:29:07 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-28T23:29:25 < Steffanx> so make that, probably not next year 2016-08-28T23:29:34 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-28T23:30:18 < Steffanx> Wasn't also more like, start in 2017, take 2 years for it and leave in 2019? 2016-08-28T23:32:39 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-28T23:32:43 < Laurenceb__> https://thequesodip.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/2rjohvc.jpg 2016-08-28T23:32:46 < Laurenceb__> ^ VD 2016-08-28T23:33:07 < Steffanx> last week i met the brother you didnt you had Laurenceb__ 2016-08-28T23:33:25 < Steffanx> studied physics: [check] 2016-08-28T23:33:35 < Steffanx> code lacks spaces: [check] 2016-08-28T23:34:08 < Steffanx> not always sure what's going on in this codes: [check] 2016-08-28T23:35:11 < Sync> at least it is just yappu ecu codes 2016-08-28T23:35:16 < Sync> the confusion was real 2016-08-28T23:35:40 < Laurenceb__> or VW ecu code 2016-08-28T23:35:58 < Laurenceb__> "no this is just the test code" 2016-08-28T23:37:02 < Sync> well 2016-08-28T23:37:18 < Sync> vw ecu codes actualls run on hardware IDA supports 2016-08-28T23:37:45 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.159.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-28T23:37:49 < Sync> having to write a disassembler was full asscancer 2016-08-28T23:40:00 < Laurenceb__> huh is this your day job? 2016-08-28T23:40:02 < Laurenceb__> https://disenchantedscholar.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/fagsneedfeminism39.jpg 2016-08-28T23:41:39 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.123.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-28T23:45:46 < kakimir> rotten 2016-08-28T23:58:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Mon Aug 29 2016 2016-08-29T00:01:41 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-29T00:06:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T00:06:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-29T00:09:56 < kakimir> http://i.imgur.com/tTdaegp.jpg 2016-08-29T00:16:23 < englishman> Sync: cool didn't know it was boosted too 2016-08-29T00:16:44 < englishman> timing belt is back on the diesel, sounds like I only bent 2-3 valves, rest should be good 2016-08-29T00:17:38 < Sync> englishman: it is not, as I said 2016-08-29T00:17:48 < Sync> but I can make it sound like it is ;) 2016-08-29T00:17:59 < englishman> hehe 2016-08-29T00:18:32 < Sync> it is part of the flatshift and launch limiter 2016-08-29T00:19:14 < Sync> because flatshift = best shift 2016-08-29T00:19:26 < Sync> now I need some kind of gear selection detector 2016-08-29T00:19:43 < Sync> so I can calculate the matching rpm 2016-08-29T00:32:30 < Sync> englishman: the boosted engine sits in a corner there waiting ;) 2016-08-29T00:33:05 < karlp> zyp: ok, I was confused abotu the byte ordering of the u"" utf16 c++ strings, and didn't know that the 0x3 was required for the string descriptor bits :) 2016-08-29T00:33:55 < karlp> zyp: how do you handle control requests though? I see in the cdc-acm you have a fake response for the set line coding control request, 2016-08-29T00:35:05 < karlp> but I tried usb.read() and just get garbage. wlength is 7 like I expect, as is the line coding struct i want to read http://paste.jvnv.net/view/K2I5q 2016-08-29T00:35:18 < karlp> need to setup rblog properly too I think :) 2016-08-29T00:40:02 < karlp> think I need to recompile my own gdb for that though. fucking tedious 2016-08-29T00:40:41 < karlp> ah no, g-a-e includes it as a separate binary with python support 2016-08-29T00:45:17 < zyp> they do now? neat 2016-08-29T00:46:26 < zyp> you can't read the packet in handle_setup(), it haven't arrived yet 2016-08-29T00:46:33 < zyp> you have to read it in handle_out() 2016-08-29T00:47:36 < karlp> do I still have the reqtype and req and windiex stuff there? 2016-08-29T00:48:03 < karlp> why did you have null handlers for those request types there in the demo? 2016-08-29T00:48:18 < karlp> I was curious about why it was "handle setup" naming 2016-08-29T00:48:41 < zyp> no, you have to carry your own state 2016-08-29T00:48:42 < karlp> I need to keep some state from a ahndle setup call and hope the next call to handle_out is "right"? 2016-08-29T00:48:50 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/usb/hid.h#n246 <- check for instance how hid driver got ControlState 2016-08-29T00:49:18 < karlp> ah, I had been failing to find some other code to copy off, thanks 2016-08-29T00:49:56 < karlp> so hang on, how do you do a control reqply, you're writing in the handle setup, but you cna't look at the data yet? 2016-08-29T00:50:28 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/main.cpp?h=usb_audio#n117 <- same shit with usb audio for the volume controls 2016-08-29T00:51:10 < zyp> keep in mind that there's two (or three depending on how you count) kinds of control requests 2016-08-29T00:51:30 < karlp> so will len in handle_out() be wLength? 2016-08-29T00:51:38 < zyp> control in and control out (and the third would be control without data, but it's just a special case of the others) 2016-08-29T00:51:52 < zyp> not necessarily 2016-08-29T00:52:10 < zyp> for sizes <= 64 it should be 2016-08-29T00:52:24 < karlp> oh yeahm, forgot about big control stuff 2016-08-29T00:52:33 < zyp> wLength is size of whole control transaction, handle_out gets invoked for each individual packet 2016-08-29T00:53:04 < zyp> it's a bit messy to make the user handle it, but that was the best idea I had when I wrote it 2016-08-29T00:53:13 < karlp> having to save wvalue and windex as well seems tedious if you're doing stuff with control reqs a lot, but ok. 2016-08-29T00:53:25 < karlp> yeah, it is what it is. 2016-08-29T00:53:55 < zyp> when I get around to rewrite it as a transfer-based API, handle_setup or something like it would set up a wLength-sized transfer, passing in an appropriately sized buffer and getting a callback when it's complete 2016-08-29T00:55:15 < karlp> what's the "usb.write(0, nullptr, 0)" for? 2016-08-29T00:55:28 < karlp> in your stub handle_out for ep0? 2016-08-29T00:56:04 < zyp> a control out request consists of three stages; SETUP, data OUT, status IN 2016-08-29T00:56:34 < zyp> status should either be a zero-length packet or a stall handshake 2016-08-29T00:56:55 < zyp> so you can signal back an error after receiving all the data 2016-08-29T00:57:42 < zyp> if you don't do anything, the host will just get a NAK when trying to read the status stage and keep polling until it times out and returns a timeout error to the host driver 2016-08-29T01:00:05 < zyp> my stack differs a bit from libopencm3 on that point, since the libopencm3 stack actually keeps track of which state it's in and got some handling for that 2016-08-29T01:01:18 < englishman> Damn diesel timing is like 5 degrees away from valve interference 2016-08-29T01:01:19 < karlp> you can't use default: in c++ switches? 2016-08-29T01:01:24 < zyp> https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/blob/master/lib/usb/usb_control.c#L188 2016-08-29T01:01:27 < zyp> sure you can 2016-08-29T01:01:35 < karlp> warning: enumeration value 'None' not handled in switch [-Wswitch] 2016-08-29T01:01:37 < karlp> blah 2016-08-29T01:02:17 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-godsngfhabnbqxjt] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T01:02:34 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/main.cpp?h=usb_audio#n205 <- I mean, this construct is just for silencing that 2016-08-29T01:03:18 < zyp> hid driver got the same 2016-08-29T01:03:25 < Laurenceb__> rblog is debug over usb? 2016-08-29T01:03:32 < zyp> no 2016-08-29T01:03:32 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-29T01:03:53 < zyp> it's just fast logging into a ringbuffer 2016-08-29T01:04:13 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/util/rblog.h 2016-08-29T01:04:18 < karlp> ah, it's stupid cases cant' begin with a variable decl, cos it's not a scope or something silly 2016-08-29T01:04:29 < Laurenceb__> ah 2016-08-29T01:04:34 < zyp> karlp, just make a scope 2016-08-29T01:04:44 < karlp> yeah, did, :) just had forgotten that rule 2016-08-29T01:05:01 < zyp> Laurenceb__, got no builtin way to read it out, I do that through gdb: http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/gdb_plugins/rblog.py 2016-08-29T01:05:17 < Laurenceb__> I see 2016-08-29T01:05:20 < karlp> sweet, baud handling works now. 2016-08-29T01:05:39 < Laurenceb__> zyp: how fast is the MSC code? 2016-08-29T01:05:46 < Laurenceb__> as in bytes/s throughput 2016-08-29T01:06:21 < zyp> uh, I haven't benchmarked it, why? 2016-08-29T01:07:00 < Sync> mildly suprising englishman 2016-08-29T01:07:01 < Laurenceb__> just wondered if it was faster than my periph lib based code 2016-08-29T01:07:01 < karlp> now need to do the real pieces, actually properly pipelining the data.... 2016-08-29T01:08:03 < Laurenceb__> I managed a little under 1MB/s 2016-08-29T01:08:05 < zyp> my msc code is utter shit, but I would believe it's thin enough to not add significant overhead 2016-08-29T01:08:11 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-29T01:08:19 < zyp> you're talking about FS USB, I assume? 2016-08-29T01:08:24 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-29T01:08:40 < Sync> I wonder why most people opt to use interference designes, but I guess chamber design is harder with more room you have to keep open 2016-08-29T01:08:40 < Laurenceb__> the periph lib code is a mess 2016-08-29T01:09:15 < zyp> Laurenceb__, so you're up against the theoretical bulk limit 2016-08-29T01:09:22 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-29T01:09:39 < Laurenceb__> I was happy with it but wondered how good it was 2016-08-29T01:09:52 < Laurenceb__> coudn't find anyone getting anything faster so gave up improving it lol 2016-08-29T01:10:46 < zyp> theoretical max bulk speed is 19 64B packets per frame, giving a rate of 1216000B/s 2016-08-29T01:11:25 < Laurenceb__> laks would prob be faster if you added "pre fetch" of the SD sectors 2016-08-29T01:11:48 < Laurenceb__> thats what I did to speed up the ST code, but it still uses their nasty library functions 2016-08-29T01:12:21 < englishman> Sync: pretty much every engine is interference in last 25 years 2016-08-29T01:12:25 < englishman> afaik 2016-08-29T01:12:42 < zyp> each SCSI request in MSC BOT consists of a command transfer, the payload transfer and a status transfer 2016-08-29T01:13:09 < zyp> so you'll get two packets overhead in addition to the payload per command 2016-08-29T01:13:30 < Laurenceb__> iirc a payload can be very large 2016-08-29T01:13:40 < Laurenceb__> spanning many sectors on the card 2016-08-29T01:13:51 < englishman> I'm filthy and I need more parts, this project will have to end for today 2016-08-29T01:13:52 < zyp> yes 2016-08-29T01:14:24 < Sync> englishman: nah, there are a few exceptions 2016-08-29T01:14:37 < Laurenceb__> iirc I used a multi sector transfer command run as a series of 512 byte DMA transfers 2016-08-29T01:15:06 < Laurenceb__> then the USB transfers could be run simultaneously with the card access 2016-08-29T01:15:25 < Laurenceb__> this gave a factor of 8 improvement in throughput over the shitty ST example code lol 2016-08-29T01:16:36 < zyp> http://bin.jvnv.net/f/5pyzn.png <- here's some shit I did ages ago 2016-08-29T01:16:48 < Sync> englishman: waiting for parts always sucks 2016-08-29T01:16:54 < zyp> slow sd card, no prefetching, fetcing single sectors 2016-08-29T01:17:38 < zyp> I can provide data as fast as host is polling for it, except when I have to fetch a sector (which is why every eight transfer takes 14-17 polls before host gets a reply) 2016-08-29T01:18:32 < Laurenceb__> what is the time format? 2016-08-29T01:18:47 < zyp> m:s.ms.us 2016-08-29T01:18:51 < Laurenceb__> ah 2016-08-29T01:19:50 < zyp> ah, I still have a capture open from my L0 stuff 2016-08-29T01:20:08 < Laurenceb__> I make that about 350kB/s 2016-08-29T01:20:08 < zyp> L0 is slower, not always able to keep up 2016-08-29T01:21:13 < Laurenceb__> so it is about 2.5 times faster than ST code 2016-08-29T01:22:10 < Laurenceb__> I tried ChibiOS MSC example and it was very poor 2016-08-29T01:22:19 < Laurenceb__> but maybe it has been improved now 2016-08-29T01:22:23 < zyp> I got a 16k read in this L0 code, the payload section is averaging 652kB/s according to the analysis software 2016-08-29T01:22:40 < Laurenceb__> ok 2016-08-29T01:23:08 < zyp> there's a lot of «[1 POLL]» here though 2016-08-29T01:23:24 < zyp> which means it got a NAK on first try and the data on second 2016-08-29T01:24:30 < zyp> but L0 is running at 32MHz, it's probably just too slow to keep up while running the NFC card scanning state machine on the side 2016-08-29T01:24:46 < zyp> double buffering could help 2016-08-29T01:24:48 -!- Peter_M [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T01:25:40 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-2925094217.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-29T01:26:24 < zyp> hmm, it doesn't seem to get full speed anyway 2016-08-29T01:27:28 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-29T01:27:30 -!- Peter_M is now known as PeterM 2016-08-29T01:28:18 < zyp> but I have the swd debugger on the same hub, and IIRC it only got a single TT, so it doesn't have all the bus capacity to itself 2016-08-29T01:28:39 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-29T01:28:39 -!- mwfc [~mwfc@playerpiano.mwfc.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-29T01:28:50 -!- mwfc [~mwfc@playerpiano.mwfc.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T01:29:04 -!- kakimir [kakimir@sienimetsa.wtf] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T01:29:21 < karlp> can you actually find out wther a hub has single TT or multi TT without knowing the part numbers? 2016-08-29T01:29:28 < karlp> is that reported in hub descriptors? 2016-08-29T01:29:28 < zyp> and really, if you're concerned about speed, you should go HS 2016-08-29T01:29:37 < zyp> karlp, I believe so 2016-08-29T01:30:24 < karlp> so, how does one handle flow control with laks then? like, "my txfifo is full, I odn't want any more after I go tthis handle_out() call" 2016-08-29T01:30:42 < karlp> hw_set_stall()? 2016-08-29T01:31:07 < zyp> no, stall is for error conditions 2016-08-29T01:31:30 < zyp> let's see 2016-08-29T01:32:24 < karlp> the only time I ever see you use ep_ready is for hacking a whole reply inside a setup handler: http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/usb/hid.h#n289 is there any other use for it? 2016-08-29T01:32:34 < zyp> heh, I haven't implemented it 2016-08-29T01:32:57 < zyp> ep_ready works for all IN endpoints, not just IN 0 2016-08-29T01:33:03 < zyp> doesn't work for OUT though 2016-08-29T01:33:10 < zyp> anyway 2016-08-29T01:33:31 < zyp> libopencm3 solves OUT flow control with the force_nak mechanism 2016-08-29T01:33:40 < karlp> so I should be checking ep_ready(in_ep) before trying to write to to it 2016-08-29T01:33:46 -!- ColdKeyboard [~ColdKeybo@bas2-toronto26-2925094217.dsl.bell.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T01:34:22 < zyp> with the current model, I should have had something similar, but I haven't implemented it, probably never needed flow control for OUT 2016-08-29T01:34:53 < zyp> I mean, you can do flow control by blocking in handle_out(), because it gets cleared after handle_out() returns 2016-08-29T01:35:12 < karlp> bah :) 2016-08-29T01:35:20 < zyp> that works for stuff like bootloader waiting on flash write to complete 2016-08-29T01:35:39 < karlp> I was going to try and make my serial port thing actually finally work by using laks and using modern fancy c++ and your fancy better usb stack ;) 2016-08-29T01:35:46 < zyp> but wouldn't work very well for stuff which can stay backed up for a long time 2016-08-29T01:35:51 < zyp> haha 2016-08-29T01:35:54 < karlp> like a serial port tx fifo :)= 2016-08-29T01:36:42 < zyp> eh, unless you're using rts/cts, it won't really be a problem 2016-08-29T01:37:26 < karlp> hmm? 2016-08-29T01:37:57 < karlp> cdc-acm doesn't support rts/cts anyway, so that wouldn't matter 2016-08-29T01:38:28 < zyp> that doesn't prevent you from using hardware flow control on the uart side 2016-08-29T01:38:39 < zyp> anyway 2016-08-29T01:38:50 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/KIefb <- I have this running on that rs485 thing 2016-08-29T01:39:16 < karlp> so you just block directly there. 2016-08-29T01:39:53 < zyp> yeah, it's not for a significantly long time anyway 2016-08-29T01:40:01 < karlp> is that d0 stuff for ppp style escaping? 2016-08-29T01:40:14 < zyp> similar, yes 2016-08-29T01:41:20 < karlp> hrm, I would never have thought you could just block in the handler and b ok. 2016-08-29T01:41:33 < karlp> can't imagine that really works very well though if you're support dual interfaces or something though 2016-08-29T01:41:37 < zyp> it made sense to do the escaping/unescaping at the border between rs485 and usb, since it's part of the framing layer, and I also convert to usb framing 2016-08-29T01:42:09 < zyp> depends what kind of use the device will see 2016-08-29T01:42:26 < zyp> since you're blocking all of it 2016-08-29T01:43:32 < zyp> this particular device can only do three things; read a command from rs485, send a reply to rs485, toggle a sideband handshake line 2016-08-29T01:43:42 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T01:44:17 < karlp> yeah, my ideal final device is actually usb-to rs485, with also a usb controlled dac. 2016-08-29T01:44:34 < karlp> so I don't really want to block it all. 2016-08-29T01:45:15 < karlp> hrm, I don't even understand enough of how it's working in the peripheral to know how to add it :) 2016-08-29T01:45:26 < karlp> you sold me this thing and it doesn't work! ;) 2016-08-29T01:46:08 < zyp> hang on, let me give you your money back ;) 2016-08-29T01:46:47 * karlp chuckles 2016-08-29T01:47:02 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-29T01:48:04 < zyp> which chip were you working on again? 2016-08-29T01:48:17 < karlp> f4, but don't really care, 2016-08-29T01:48:36 < karlp> want to have this as generic retargetable eventually. 2016-08-29T01:48:47 < Laurenceb__> you are building your own usb-rs485?! 2016-08-29T01:49:12 < karlp> why not? 2016-08-29T01:49:20 < Laurenceb__> cuz its an off the shelf dongle 2016-08-29T01:49:25 < karlp> why am I building usb-serial even if you want to go down that path... 2016-08-29T01:49:34 < Laurenceb__> good question 2016-08-29T01:49:44 < Laurenceb__> ChibiOS or leaflabs code works for me 2016-08-29T01:49:51 < karlp> the answer is to have htem as part of a bigger application, 2016-08-29T01:50:03 < karlp> and chibios was a fuckign disaster, never got that to do anything useufl 2016-08-29T01:51:33 < Laurenceb__> wut 2016-08-29T01:51:40 < Laurenceb__> works for me 2016-08-29T01:52:32 < karlp> I couldn't get it to work with a modbus library, couldn't work out where the hooks were to the serial port to get rs485 to work. 2016-08-29T01:52:46 < karlp> gave up ina jungle. freertos worked just fine 2016-08-29T01:52:53 < karlp> so never went looking for things like usb to serial 2016-08-29T01:53:02 < karlp> can't imagine that adding rs485 there would be easy either :) 2016-08-29T01:54:22 < zyp> uh, I'm looking at my dwc_otg driver and I don't really see where it's doing CNAK :p 2016-08-29T01:55:16 < zyp> oh, duh 2016-08-29T01:55:27 < Laurenceb__> lulwut ChibiOS docs are miles better than FreeRTOS 2016-08-29T01:55:34 < Laurenceb__> how long ago was this? 2016-08-29T01:55:42 < zyp> «// FIXME: Temporary workaround.» 2016-08-29T01:55:56 < zyp> so that weren't intended to be permanent :) 2016-08-29T01:56:15 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-heavwdyjrdxzqdhv] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T01:56:24 < karlp> Laurenceb__: chibios docs were enormous, but not actually saying anything 2016-08-29T01:56:37 < karlp> freertos docs were just "here's the os, all the hw is on your own" so it was easy, 2016-08-29T01:56:37 < Laurenceb__> lul ok 2016-08-29T01:56:40 < zyp> this looks wrong though 2016-08-29T01:56:44 < Laurenceb__> lol 2016-08-29T01:56:53 < Laurenceb__> I like ChibiOS HW drivers a lot 2016-08-29T01:56:55 < karlp> while you're looking at laks code, any demo of interrupts? 2016-08-29T01:57:04 < Laurenceb__> its just a pity they try to use DMA for everything 2016-08-29T01:57:15 < Laurenceb__> but thats not an issue on F4 as it has good DMA 2016-08-29T01:57:30 < zyp> looking at my dwc_otg code, I think it'll break for control out transfers with more than one data packet 2016-08-29T01:57:38 < Laurenceb__> also you can easily bypass the HW drivers 2016-08-29T01:58:01 < zyp> I really need to replace it with a transfer model 2016-08-29T01:58:01 < Laurenceb__> or even haxor them with "semi bypass" 2016-08-29T01:58:27 < karlp> Laurenceb__: well, if you're selling me on the hw drivers, I don't want to bypass them do I :) 2016-08-29T01:58:43 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-29T01:59:12 < Laurenceb__> I've used direct timer access to setup my OFDM stuff, and thats it 2016-08-29T01:59:27 < Laurenceb__> never needed to haxor anything else on ChibiOS 2016-08-29T02:01:25 < zyp> karlp, so, if you'd want to fix it libopencm3-style, you'd have to add some sort of register of which endpoints to keep nak for, then make http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/usb/dwc_otg.h#n68 and http://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/usb/f1_usb.h#n122 conditional on that 2016-08-29T02:02:17 < karlp> I have no opinion on what's good or not, I wsa kinda hoping to writ ethis using laks to find out which style seemed to be better for the user :) 2016-08-29T02:02:53 < zyp> hmm, and also some function to clear nak again 2016-08-29T02:06:09 < zyp> I could write it if you're actually going to use it 2016-08-29T02:07:23 < zyp> I'm not going to use it, the moment I have a need for better flow control is probably the moment I'll default to keeping everything in nak by default until the user has scheduled a transfer 2016-08-29T02:07:29 < zyp> i.e. the transfer model I've been talking of 2016-08-29T02:09:08 < karlp> yeah, don't lose sleep over it... 2016-08-29T02:09:11 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-29T02:09:51 < zyp> http://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/tree/arcin/main.cpp?h=conf#n64 <- this code is using interrupts 2016-08-29T02:09:51 < karlp> I should probably just go back to the lcom3 version now with a it more understanding of things, 2016-08-29T02:10:14 < karlp> ok. thanks for the help and pointers 2016-08-29T02:10:30 < karlp> https://github.com/karlp/laks_demo/blob/usb-cdc-acm-uart/main.cpp is the results so far for those playing at home 2016-08-29T02:10:44 < zyp> 404 2016-08-29T02:11:13 < karlp> ah, doh, https://github.com/karlp/laks_demo/blob/usb-cdc-acm-uart/usb-cdc-acm-uart/main.cpp 2016-08-29T02:11:20 < karlp> made a directory :) 2016-08-29T02:11:30 < karlp> mnigth convert your entire repo if I keep this up 2016-08-29T02:11:46 < zyp> haha 2016-08-29T02:12:12 < karlp> yeah, so the docs say you can set SNAK immediately after getting a setup packet, 2016-08-29T02:12:26 < karlp> anyway, think I might go to bed. 2016-08-29T02:12:34 < zyp> setup is not relevant 2016-08-29T02:12:50 < karlp> you were talking about nakking by default? 2016-08-29T02:12:56 < zyp> and it should be in nak already by that point 2016-08-29T02:13:44 < zyp> I don't think you ever need to do SNAK for anything other than negating an earlier CNAK 2016-08-29T02:13:53 < zyp> i.e. cancelling a scheduled transfer 2016-08-29T02:18:40 -!- _Getty [getty@88.198.38.47] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T02:18:56 < zyp> I kinda want to start using lambda functions for callbacks so they can be written in continuation passing style 2016-08-29T02:21:08 < zyp> but the lambda function capture magic requires a heap, and they are kinda useless without being able to use captures 2016-08-29T02:32:29 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bmfcejjjtbfjrwhc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T02:39:37 < zyp> http://paste.jvnv.net/view/LeHMS <- a transfer model with continuation passing style would look something like this 2016-08-29T02:42:37 < zyp> continuation passing style is a common pattern in stuff like async javascript, where it makes the code more readable by having the callback along with the start of the async request 2016-08-29T02:55:22 < zygron_> zyp: i wouldn't say capture-less lambda are useless, they're still very convenient since they can be used in place of regular callbacks and converted into a function pointer by the compiler 2016-08-29T02:57:19 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2016-08-29T02:57:27 < englishman> found dongs latest project http://i.imgur.com/dP4dcLn.jpg 2016-08-29T02:57:47 < Thorn> in javascript everybody uses promises so that async code doesn't have to know anything about result callbacks 2016-08-29T02:58:23 < upgrdman> englishman, lolwut 2016-08-29T03:04:36 < zyp> Thorn, also true, but that's just a middle construct 2016-08-29T03:08:26 < Thorn> promises are very powerful, they convert nested callbacks into a linear sequence of .then().then()... and let you handle exceptions in async code by adding something like .catch() to the chain 2016-08-29T03:09:01 < Thorn> I wonder why computer scientists never mention them when they talk CPS etc. 2016-08-29T03:10:13 -!- Abhishek_ [uid26899@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-godsngfhabnbqxjt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-29T03:12:02 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-VImd2yW5s so THIS is how they do DIPs in 2016 2016-08-29T03:13:04 < zyp> Thorn, they don't? 2016-08-29T03:15:21 < englishman> cool dongs 2016-08-29T03:16:17 < zyp> dongs, that looks like standard selective wave stuff, or am I missing something? 2016-08-29T03:17:12 < zyp> oh, the fluxer is cute, haven't seen that before 2016-08-29T03:18:28 < Thorn> for example, http://matt.might.net/articles/by-example-continuation-passing-style/ (academia) vs. https://blog.domenic.me/youre-missing-the-point-of-promises/ (industry) 2016-08-29T03:19:25 < Thorn> the first article commits the capital sin of stopping the only javascript thread to wait for remote response (= no industry experience) 2016-08-29T03:21:08 < Thorn> also isn't this how you do DIP in 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronics_industry#/media/File:Electronics_factory_in_Shenzhen.jpg 2016-08-29T03:23:38 < dongs> zyp, selective shit ive seen makes a jig under pcb and dips it in a pot 2016-08-29T03:23:57 < zyp> wat 2016-08-29T03:24:51 < dongs> the non-dip parts of pcb are fully covered, and it leaves very clear flux line. don't have the boards wiht me here, at another office, but it definitely had a unique look t oit 2016-08-29T03:26:53 < zyp> http://www.beamon.com/images/subbanner_big/subbanner9.png <- this sort of shit? 2016-08-29T03:27:04 < zyp> heh 2016-08-29T03:27:07 < zyp> never seen 2016-08-29T03:27:39 < dongs> yeah 2016-08-29T03:27:46 < zyp> but I've seen several of those selective wave things with a nozzle that move around 2016-08-29T03:29:57 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-29T03:33:15 < zyp> Thorn, actually, I have considered making it a promise based model too 2016-08-29T03:33:36 < zyp> but the STL promises seems kinda useless 2016-08-29T03:33:55 < zyp> and I'm not sure how useful I can make it in a language like that 2016-08-29T03:33:58 < Thorn> they're not the same thing at all afaict 2016-08-29T03:34:45 < Thorn> you will likely want full lexical closures to make the most out of it, which c++ doesn't have 2016-08-29T03:35:49 < zyp> lexical? 2016-08-29T03:39:10 < Thorn> what I'm trying to get at is when you capture something in a then()/catch() handler its lifetime should be automatically controlled, otherwise it's going to be very awkward 2016-08-29T03:39:48 < Thorn> javascript has automatic memory management, c++ doesn't unless you use refcounted pointers or something 2016-08-29T03:40:13 < zyp> well, you'd obviously use smartpointers for that 2016-08-29T03:43:58 < Laurenceb__> yeah lets program micros in javascript 2016-08-29T03:44:20 < zyp> Laurenceb__, nobody is suggesting that 2016-08-29T03:44:41 < zyp> we're just talking about code patterns for async code 2016-08-29T03:44:41 < Laurenceb__> k :P 2016-08-29T03:46:33 < Thorn> I'm sure raspberry pi etc. are routinely programmed in something like node.js 2016-08-29T03:47:19 < Laurenceb__> oh my god its the current year 2016-08-29T03:47:26 < Laurenceb__> but that soldering is pretty cool 2016-08-29T03:47:34 < Thorn> python 3.5 got this https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.5.html#pep-492-coroutines-with-async-and-await-syntax 2016-08-29T03:48:29 < zyp> yeah, and for older python you can use tornado 2016-08-29T03:49:10 < zyp> I haven't used the new stuff in 3.5 yet, but I've written code in tornado, it's pretty cool 2016-08-29T03:49:57 < zyp> s/in/using/ 2016-08-29T03:57:44 < aandrew> dongs: carsan has something like that 2016-08-29T04:00:06 < Thorn> btw there is also http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_61_0/libs/coroutine/doc/html/index.html (I never tried it) 2016-08-29T04:10:04 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bmfcejjjtbfjrwhc] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-29T04:17:35 < Laurenceb__> https://media.8ch.net/file_store/33c36f6b47c956bf5b148a6e1bc0cce0ddb3d1a26a1e0661b41cc589c3cedaec.jpg 2016-08-29T04:17:49 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T04:19:57 < englishman> s. 2016-08-29T04:19:57 < englishman> s- ss `-` 2016-08-29T04:19:57 < englishman> `N- :d ./ +s+:- 2016-08-29T04:19:57 < englishman> hm: d. `d. :y- 2016-08-29T04:19:57 < englishman> .dy- o+ y: /y 2016-08-29T04:19:58 < englishman> :sh..d ` :++/N. `m` 2016-08-29T04:19:58 < englishman> :ym o/ +syy` :d/+++: -+yh+++/ ` - -` 2016-08-29T04:19:59 < englishman> -yd`d-h: o+ +o o/ m +m .h-yss-+:h/d. ` / 2016-08-29T04:19:59 < englishman> `o+ydh: y: d` o+ /y- `-syy /ms` h/mh -h /s :M. 2016-08-29T04:20:00 < englishman> +s:h` oo `o :/ `/++:`-y-` +s +oh- m -y+` -osy/ 2016-08-29T04:20:00 < englishman> .oo/ `m+ +- h-y- :h -oo/` s/ 2016-08-29T04:20:01 < englishman> s :: o+ d` 2016-08-29T04:20:01 < englishman> m` 2016-08-29T04:20:02 < englishman> o` m 2016-08-29T04:20:13 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T04:20:45 < Laurenceb__> wtf just happened 2016-08-29T04:20:48 < Laurenceb__> https://media.8ch.net/file_store/5a847e4e60879558a734e2e248965e5cb020abea10eb82942e5604e0415c4d25.png 2016-08-29T04:25:35 -!- fujin [sid32258@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mndgabvsoszhxdug] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T04:27:54 < upgrdman> thats a weird looking "Not" 2016-08-29T04:29:55 < ReadError> lol askee 2016-08-29T04:31:14 -!- dekar__ [~dekar@55d43f23.access.ecotel.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T04:32:43 < ReadError> https://i.imgur.com/jCbgCTu.png 2016-08-29T04:33:03 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@55d42974.access.ecotel.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-29T04:33:47 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T04:34:37 < aandrew> oh is that what that is saying 2016-08-29T04:34:52 < aandrew> couldn't make out the first word (something t) and fumy I thought 2016-08-29T04:35:10 < aandrew> I find it humourous that the colour ascii art library is libcaca 2016-08-29T04:39:24 < jadew> lol ReadError 2016-08-29T04:39:43 < jadew> she looks like a keeper 2016-08-29T04:42:15 < upgrdman> typical event in germany: http://www.thelocal.de/20160826/naked-swimmer-hospitalized-after-angler-hooks-his-penis 2016-08-29T04:48:23 < jadew> When I was in primary school, girls were getting knitting lessons and they had all kinds of tools in their bags. One of my collegues was running through the class and sat on one of their bags by mistake. He ended up with a knitting hook in his ass. 2016-08-29T04:49:01 < jadew> he couldn't get up and it must have been painful, cuz he was crying 2016-08-29T04:49:06 < jadew> we laughted 2016-08-29T04:49:29 < jadew> laughed 2016-08-29T04:49:44 < ReadError> you try getting nailed in the ass 2016-08-29T04:49:48 < ReadError> you would be crying too 2016-08-29T04:50:14 < jadew> haha, I'm sure, but we were stupid kids, we didn't realize how awful it must have been 2016-08-29T04:52:41 < englishman> and that little boy's name? dolan trump. 2016-08-29T04:52:44 < englishman> nice stm32 content 2016-08-29T05:09:28 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-29T05:10:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-29T05:14:51 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T05:15:49 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T05:19:51 < ReadMobl> bossmans are asleep 2016-08-29T05:36:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T06:00:05 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T06:17:26 < Rob235> changed battery connectors from http://imgur.com/C7DOK4k to http://imgur.com/AO4p2EX 2016-08-29T06:17:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T06:18:20 < Rob235> second setup has an attached attopilot 180A sensor 2016-08-29T06:23:29 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-29T06:24:09 -!- emeb_mac_ [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T06:24:10 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-29T06:24:10 -!- emeb_mac_ is now known as emeb_mac 2016-08-29T06:38:07 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-29T06:52:54 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T06:56:28 < ReadMobl> englishman: dwaine is on, talking to him about biggie smalls and heaven 2016-08-29T06:59:35 < englishman> pass 2016-08-29T06:59:49 < englishman> hes more interesting in text tho 2016-08-29T07:00:01 < ReadMobl> pretty canadian too 2016-08-29T07:31:19 < englishman> Sync: heard of obdeleven? 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2016-08-29T11:52:27 < Sync> englishman: nope 2016-08-29T11:54:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T11:55:04 < jpa-> Ecco: resistor divider to gpio works 2016-08-29T11:55:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T11:59:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T12:02:05 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-29T12:06:13 < ReadError> hmm its gonna be tricky to get good metering on this pump with a dc motor 2016-08-29T12:26:58 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T12:29:05 < karlp> zyp: yeah, was thinking about the schedule transfer style on the wya in this morning. it's probably _really_ nice for lots of styles of usb work, but for something like my serial port, it either results in me recopying the data twice, once from where the scheduled transfer copied the data out of the rxfifo, and once to my longer serial tx fifo, or I have to block int he callback again. I can see how it makes a bunch of stuff easier to followthough. 2016-08-29T12:30:01 -!- c4017 [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-29T12:32:10 < karlp> englishman: where did that amazeballs routing job come from? 2016-08-29T12:34:34 < zyp> karlp, no, it doesn't 2016-08-29T12:36:43 < zyp> when you schedule the transfer, you pass in exactly the buffer where you want the data to end up, and the usb stack takes the responsibility of getting it there for you 2016-08-29T12:37:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T12:38:37 < zyp> and if the callback can't consume it immediately (and you don't have another buffer to schedule a new transfer to), you'll just wait with rescheduling until you have a free buffer 2016-08-29T12:44:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-115-38.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-29T12:47:02 < PeterM> englishman re rx7 it was my boyhood dream car, soem kids wanted ferraris, soem wanted lambos, i wanted a wankle 2016-08-29T12:48:29 < PeterM> also, re aussies and jappu cars, they're interested about the same as othercountries 2016-08-29T12:49:40 < dongs> routed by ivan 2016-08-29T12:49:48 < dongs> dspic+msp420 detected 2016-08-29T12:50:55 < dongs> this needs to be on a logo 2016-08-29T12:51:02 < dongs> Made With Freelancer.com 2016-08-29T12:52:39 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T13:03:09 < karlp> zyp: hrm, I mean say I've got a tx fifo, and I do schedule_transfer, what buffer am I meant ot provide? the tx fifo is drainig otu at uart baud rates, I can't know in advance where it is, so I have to copy it again when the callback fires 2016-08-29T13:03:33 < karlp> you're suggesting I have the txfifo drain alternatively out of two ping pong buffers I guess. 2016-08-29T13:07:29 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-126.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T13:17:22 < zyp> yeah, if you need double buffering 2016-08-29T13:19:44 < zyp> you could do a ring buffer as well, it's just going to be annoying around wraparound 2016-08-29T13:29:14 < karlp> that's what I mean, if you're transfer scheduling is going to copy fromt eh usb rxfifo to the "user provided buffer" and i've got an output ring buffer, I have to recopy it. I would almost _have_ to use double buffers instead of an output ring. (or just suck up the double copies) 2016-08-29T13:29:34 < karlp> what would transfer schedule do if you to like "schedule transfer for 10 bytes" 2016-08-29T13:29:38 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T13:29:53 < karlp> just keep calling you and leave the rxfifo naked until you've got all of it? 2016-08-29T13:49:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T13:50:19 < zyp> no, usb is transfer oriented 2016-08-29T13:50:53 < zyp> you can't reasonably schedule a transfer smaller than bulk MPS (i.e. 64B) 2016-08-29T13:51:06 < zyp> I mean, what do you expect the stack to do if a 64B packet arrives? 2016-08-29T14:26:26 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-29T14:28:53 < karlp> that was my question :) 2016-08-29T14:29:08 < karlp> just wondering what flexibility the user really had ont he schedul transfer length call 2016-08-29T14:29:52 < karlp> you had mentioned something about being able to have the user callback potentially take the full longer transfer size, like, 1024 bytes, and you would handle the assembly of multiple transfers internally? 2016-08-29T14:29:56 < karlp> or did I mis remember that? 2016-08-29T14:42:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.80] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T15:09:44 < zyp> correct 2016-08-29T15:16:02 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-105-126.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T15:27:24 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774e6a.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T15:53:17 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-29T16:03:14 < Ecco> Hmm 2016-08-29T16:03:24 < Ecco> I don't understand the ADC_SQR1/2 registers 2016-08-29T16:04:49 < Ecco> oh, ok, I got it 2016-08-29T16:04:52 < Ecco> tell me if I'm wrong 2016-08-29T16:05:04 < Ecco> basically, it's an array of 16 channel numbers 2016-08-29T16:05:17 < Ecco> the ADC will sample the channel at array[i++] 2016-08-29T16:11:05 < englishman> PeterM: FDs were cool and i wanted one too, i even owned a FB for a a time, but these days a 25 year old ferrari might be more practical lol 2016-08-29T16:12:28 < Sync> well running 2 stroke oil and smoking the shit out of everybody is fun 2016-08-29T16:13:57 < englishman> Sync, i picked up one of those odbeleven, dont know how much volkswagen work you do but vcds is indispensable, thing is its like 10 years old and $500, time for an update 2016-08-29T16:14:06 < englishman> it already shipped, from .lt 2016-08-29T16:15:45 < Sync> yeah, I have a vcds as well 2016-08-29T16:15:52 < Sync> well, vcds is constantly updated 2016-08-29T16:17:48 < englishman> yeah 2016-08-29T16:17:59 < englishman> which i also find annoying 2016-08-29T16:18:15 < englishman> as the new stuff is even more expensive! 2016-08-29T16:18:20 < englishman> i'll try this obdeleven 2016-08-29T16:18:42 < englishman> even if it's more difficult to use it looks like a good hobbyist tool 2016-08-29T16:21:12 < Sync> o0 2016-08-29T16:21:21 < Sync> vcds with the hexcan is pretty cheap imho 2016-08-29T16:21:41 < englishman> for a shop tool i agree 2016-08-29T16:21:52 < englishman> but for a hobbyist its a bit much 2016-08-29T16:21:59 < englishman> more so since i have a mk4 and there isnt much to do 2016-08-29T16:22:15 < Sync> it basically pays off after the first shop visit you did not have to do 2016-08-29T16:24:46 < englishman> maybe theres more stuff available on gas cars 2016-08-29T16:25:03 < englishman> ive been fine so far with just engine codes 2016-08-29T16:25:14 < englishman> from a cheap obd dongle 2016-08-29T16:26:03 < englishman> i need this advanced stuff for the timing belt, there's this mechanical adjustment you check in software, pretty funky 2016-08-29T16:26:16 < Sync> yeah ina mkiv there is not much to do 2016-08-29T16:26:27 < englishman> yeah 2016-08-29T16:26:31 < englishman> mk5+ there's way way more 2016-08-29T16:26:48 < Sync> facelift mkvi is awesome 2016-08-29T16:26:52 < Sync> lots of shits to code 2016-08-29T16:27:23 < englishman> vw stopped selling diesels here, not much reason to buy new :> 2016-08-29T16:27:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.129.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-29T16:27:35 < englishman> used diesels went up in price as a result lol 2016-08-29T16:27:39 < englishman> i expected the opposite 2016-08-29T16:30:31 < Sync> oh they actually stopped? :D 2016-08-29T16:30:32 < Sync> nice 2016-08-29T16:34:31 < zyp> I should get vcds too 2016-08-29T16:34:43 < zyp> there's some annoying settings on my car that I want to fix 2016-08-29T16:46:50 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T16:47:29 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 2016-08-29T16:48:15 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.208] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T16:54:11 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T16:56:11 < Rob235> ahoy 2016-08-29T16:57:07 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.227.33.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T17:04:49 < Ecco> Are LDOs supposed to be accurate in terms of output voltage? 2016-08-29T17:05:07 -!- bartekww [~bartekww@46.101.117.55] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T17:05:17 < karlp> as accurate as the datasheet for the on ein particular claims to be normally... 2016-08-29T17:05:24 < bartekww> hey, i've compiled blink example for stm32f103 using eclipse arm 2016-08-29T17:05:29 < bartekww> and it's not blinking 2016-08-29T17:05:31 < bartekww> at pc13 2016-08-29T17:05:43 < karlp> is your led on pc13? 2016-08-29T17:05:46 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-29T17:05:49 < karlp> are you _sure_ 2016-08-29T17:05:58 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-29T17:06:06 < karlp> there's a variety of shitty cheap boards out there with pins all over the place. 2016-08-29T17:06:11 < bartekww> so 2016-08-29T17:06:11 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-29T17:06:14 < bartekww> i'll check :D 2016-08-29T17:06:45 < karlp> also, did you write the blink yourself, or did you copy some "known working" code? 2016-08-29T17:06:59 < karlp> particularly, did you turn on the right rcc clock for the port of your pin. 2016-08-29T17:07:23 < bartekww> yup, on pc13 2016-08-29T17:07:32 < bartekww> i use example from arm eclipse 2016-08-29T17:08:24 < bartekww> there is 1.8v on the pc13 2016-08-29T17:09:43 < bartekww> constant 1.8V 2016-08-29T17:11:14 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T17:12:29 < karlp> what code are you using? "arm eclipse" doesn't mean much sorry 2016-08-29T17:20:59 < bartekww> http://gnuarmeclipse.github.io/ 2016-08-29T17:21:21 < bartekww> http://gnuarmeclipse.github.io/tutorials/blinky-arm/ 2016-08-29T17:31:14 < bartekww> karlp: what is wrong with that? 2016-08-29T17:32:47 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-29T17:32:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec28157-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-29T17:33:54 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-29T17:39:58 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T17:45:51 < jpa-> bartekww: measuring NRST voltage is a good start, it should be 3.3V 2016-08-29T17:50:02 < bartekww> jpa-: 3.3V 2016-08-29T17:50:06 < bartekww> nrst 2016-08-29T17:54:06 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T17:54:40 < bartekww> jpa-: what next? 2016-08-29T17:56:05 < bartekww> also im using st-flash write file.hex 0x8000000 2016-08-29T17:56:18 < Steffann> Still working with your own makefile and board that never worked bartekww ? 2016-08-29T17:57:14 < bartekww> Steffann: trying to use working example 2016-08-29T17:57:28 < bartekww> but when i flash it, there's nothing working 2016-08-29T17:57:34 < bartekww> just blinking led 2016-08-29T17:57:44 < bartekww> but not blinking 2016-08-29T17:58:19 < Fleck> i can share makefile project blink, gcc 2016-08-29T17:58:55 < bartekww> so share it :P 2016-08-29T17:59:01 < Fleck> k, sec 2016-08-29T17:59:14 < bartekww> I have got STM32f103c8t6 board 2016-08-29T17:59:42 < Fleck> yep 2016-08-29T18:03:54 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-eojyugyzjwslxchj] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T18:06:00 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.128.208] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-29T18:08:51 < Laurenceb__> hello trolls 2016-08-29T18:11:00 < bartekww> hey 2016-08-29T18:11:14 < Laurenceb__> trollin the trolls 2016-08-29T18:14:20 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTc0G2a9aGo 2016-08-29T18:16:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T18:16:40 < bartekww> Fleck: im using this asm file: 2016-08-29T18:16:55 < bartekww> STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/CMSIS/CM3/DeviceSupport/ST/STM32F10x/startup/arm/startup_stm32f10x_md.s 2016-08-29T18:17:05 < bartekww> i have md line stm32 2016-08-29T18:17:14 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T18:17:14 -!- blight [~greg@212-186-28-41.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-29T18:17:14 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T18:20:14 < Fleck> I'm not good with asm, sorry 2016-08-29T18:33:12 < karlp> bartekww: why are you trying to get a blink working that includes semihosting prints? 2016-08-29T18:42:15 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-29T18:48:41 < Laurenceb__> over 9000 softwares 2016-08-29T18:53:23 < Laurenceb__> lolling so hard right now https://it.slashdot.org/story/16/08/29/151237/tens-of-thousands-of-infowars-accounts-hacked 2016-08-29T18:54:00 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-eojyugyzjwslxchj] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-29T18:54:00 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T18:54:37 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:01:43 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/8FNGSZA 2016-08-29T19:05:10 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T19:13:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:23:09 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:29:41 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:34:22 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:39:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.100] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:40:52 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:44:39 -!- bvernoux1 is now known as bvernoux 2016-08-29T19:46:52 < Rob235> poo 2016-08-29T19:48:14 < ReadError> did you fly ur DRONE again? 2016-08-29T19:49:05 < Rob235> not yet 2016-08-29T19:49:27 < Rob235> probably wed or thurs 2016-08-29T19:50:59 < Rob235> about to put some xt90s on my batteries 2016-08-29T19:55:17 < bartekww> guys, why im getting this 2016-08-29T19:55:21 < bartekww> /home/bartekww/projekty/stm_programmer/src/startup_stm32f10x_md.s:95: undefined reference to `SystemInit' 2016-08-29T19:55:24 < bartekww> /home/bartekww/projekty/stm_programmer/src/startup_stm32f10x_md.s:99: undefined reference to `main' 2016-08-29T19:55:41 < bartekww> i have linked system_stm32xxxxxxx.c file 2016-08-29T19:55:43 < bartekww> and main 2016-08-29T19:58:38 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:59:01 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T19:59:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T20:00:43 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T20:01:31 < bartekww> any ideas? 2016-08-29T20:07:08 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:07:55 < PaulFertser> bartekww: the linking order matters 2016-08-29T20:09:01 < bartekww> i know 2016-08-29T20:09:11 < bartekww> but it's doing automagically :D 2016-08-29T20:09:25 < bartekww> @$(LD) -o $(TARGETDIR)/$(PROJECT_NAME).elf $(OBJS) $(LDFLAGS) 2016-08-29T20:09:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:11:36 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-29T20:12:41 < bartekww> https://asciinema.org/a/air4hvpm854fvlme4sejihe34 2016-08-29T20:12:52 < bartekww> i recorded my terminal, look here 2016-08-29T20:13:15 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:14:04 < bartekww> order in which i'm linking 2016-08-29T20:14:05 < bartekww> obj/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/stm32f10x_usart.o obj/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/stm32f10x_gpio.o obj/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/stm32f10x_spi.o obj/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/stm32f10x_rcc.o 2016-08-29T20:14:10 < bartekww> obj/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/stm32f10x_exti.o obj/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/stm32f10x_dma.o obj/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Lib_V3.5.0/Libraries/STM32F10x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/misc.o obj/src/system_stm32f10x.o obj/src/usart.o obj/src/main.o obj/src/startup_stm32f10x_md.o 2016-08-29T20:18:13 < PaulFertser> bartekww: please use pastebin next time. 2016-08-29T20:18:33 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-29T20:18:59 < PaulFertser> bartekww: if it says SystemInit is not defined it means it, change the order or use -( -) 2016-08-29T20:19:02 < PaulFertser> bartekww: man ld 2016-08-29T20:19:29 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/k2Cans7y 2016-08-29T20:23:19 < bartekww> PaulFertser: now first is system_stm32xxxxx.c then stm32 files 2016-08-29T20:23:24 < bartekww> my code 2016-08-29T20:23:29 < bartekww> and asm startup code 2016-08-29T20:25:14 < PaulFertser> bartekww: the errors look meaningful! Why do you have g_pfnVectors in usart.c? 2016-08-29T20:25:28 < bartekww> i don't have 2016-08-29T20:26:02 < Steffanx> Just curious. You have your blinky led working yet bartekww? 2016-08-29T20:26:12 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-29T20:26:15 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:26:32 < bartekww> Steffann: yup, with Fleck code 2016-08-29T20:26:37 < Steffanx> ok ok 2016-08-29T20:26:42 < bartekww> but i have got a problem with my makefile 2016-08-29T20:26:48 < PaulFertser> bartekww: then you're including something bad there 2016-08-29T20:27:00 < Steffanx> oh Fleck didnt post his stuff here -_- 2016-08-29T20:27:27 < PaulFertser> bartekww: just think about it, wth do you have g_pfnVectors in both main.o and usart.o? 2016-08-29T20:27:48 < PaulFertser> bartekww: or probably you're just overwriting the .o files withg same contents? 2016-08-29T20:27:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:94e3:dfe5:7fe1:18fe] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:27:59 < bartekww> PaulFertser: in usart.c i have included 2016-08-29T20:28:01 < bartekww> #include "stm32f10x_gpio.h" 2016-08-29T20:28:01 < bartekww> 2 #include "stm32f10x_rcc.h" 2016-08-29T20:28:01 < bartekww> 3 #include "stm32f10x_usart.h" 2016-08-29T20:28:01 < bartekww> 4 #include 2016-08-29T20:28:03 < bartekww> 5 #include 2016-08-29T20:28:25 < PaulFertser> bartekww: are all your .o files identical? 2016-08-29T20:28:34 < bartekww> oh shit 2016-08-29T20:28:35 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-29T20:28:44 < bartekww> #inclde 2016-08-29T20:28:47 < bartekww> instead #include 2016-08-29T20:29:11 < bartekww> still same 2016-08-29T20:29:12 < bartekww> lol 2016-08-29T20:29:29 < PaulFertser> bartekww: then it means you're not compiling it at all 2016-08-29T20:30:58 < PaulFertser> bartekww: you're compiling same source file and writing the result to different .o files :) 2016-08-29T20:31:05 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-29T20:31:55 < bartekww> still same error 2016-08-29T20:32:14 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-29T20:32:39 < bartekww> lol, usart and main objs have same size 2016-08-29T20:32:53 < bartekww> 362 0 0 362 16aobj/src/usart. 2016-08-29T20:32:56 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:33:36 < bartekww> all objs have got same size 2016-08-29T20:35:51 < bartekww> PaulFertser: http://pastebin.com/qrLr1jux 2016-08-29T20:36:42 < PaulFertser> bartekww: what I said 2016-08-29T20:36:49 < Thorn> $(BUILDDIR)/%.o: $(CSRCS) 2016-08-29T20:37:10 < bartekww> what is wrong with that? 2016-08-29T20:38:13 < bartekww> wait D: 2016-08-29T20:38:24 < bartekww> oh shit, working :D 2016-08-29T20:38:32 < Tectu> Hello bartekww and welcome to ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:38:33 < bartekww> changed to %.s 2016-08-29T20:38:35 < bartekww> %.c 2016-08-29T20:38:37 < bartekww> %.cpp 2016-08-29T20:38:56 < PaulFertser> bartekww: I think you wanted to use a pattern to tell make how to create any .o from .c but instead you have some monster command there 2016-08-29T20:39:03 < PaulFertser> bartekww: yep 2016-08-29T20:41:35 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-29T20:41:52 < bartekww> ls 2016-08-29T20:41:58 < bartekww> sorry, bad window :D 2016-08-29T20:42:38 < Thorn> Password: 2016-08-29T20:44:02 < bartekww> asdfghjkl 2016-08-29T20:44:17 < bartekww> :P 2016-08-29T20:46:51 < PaulFertser> bartekww: nice to see you're using the recommended openocd command for flashing. 2016-08-29T20:48:06 < bartekww> :) 2016-08-29T20:48:13 < bartekww> but my code still doesn't work 2016-08-29T20:48:37 < bartekww> :| 2016-08-29T20:52:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T20:52:29 < PaulFertser> Use OpenOCD + GDB to debug it! 2016-08-29T20:54:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T20:58:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-29T20:58:30 -!- OneSploit [~OneSploit@unaffiliated/onesploit] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-29T20:58:50 -!- Tectu [~Tectu@193.231.195.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-29T21:00:07 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T21:11:19 < bartekww> PaulFertser: okay 2016-08-29T21:11:27 < bartekww> it enters into Infinite_Loop 2016-08-29T21:11:42 < bartekww> This is the code that gets called when the processor receives an │ 2016-08-29T21:11:46 < bartekww> │105 * unexpected interrupt. This simply enters an infinite loop, preserving │ 2016-08-29T21:18:02 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T21:26:12 < bartekww> PaulFertser: can you help me? 2016-08-29T21:26:22 < bartekww> i don't know what i'm doing wrong 2016-08-29T21:26:29 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.146.100] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T21:26:38 < bartekww> going line by line with GDB and nothing :| 2016-08-29T21:27:55 < PaulFertser> bartekww: try "bt" 2016-08-29T21:28:00 < PaulFertser> bartekww: to see how it got there. 2016-08-29T21:29:37 < bartekww> (gdb) bt 2016-08-29T21:29:37 < bartekww> #0 WWDG_IRQHandler () at src/startup_stm32f10x_md.s:114 2016-08-29T21:29:37 < bartekww> #1 0x08002e30 in init_usart () at src/usart.c:218 2016-08-29T21:29:37 < bartekww> #2 0x036bc368 in ?? () 2016-08-29T21:29:40 < bartekww> Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) 2016-08-29T21:29:58 < bartekww> it goes thru my usart & PC13 led init function 2016-08-29T21:30:07 < bartekww> then return to main 2016-08-29T21:30:15 < bartekww> return 0 to infinity loop 2016-08-29T21:30:21 < bartekww> but led is down. 2016-08-29T21:30:42 < bartekww> Fleck: 2016-08-29T21:30:58 < Fleck> yes? 2016-08-29T21:31:10 < bartekww> with my code, led doesnt even turn on 2016-08-29T21:31:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T21:31:26 < Fleck> wheres your code? :D 2016-08-29T21:31:37 < bartekww> wait a sec 2016-08-29T21:31:42 < Fleck> and try using pastebin some sort of 2016-08-29T21:32:19 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/cQarbXbM 2016-08-29T21:32:20 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-29T21:32:39 < Fleck> lol 2016-08-29T21:32:43 < bartekww> what? 2016-08-29T21:32:48 < bartekww> this is usart.c 2016-08-29T21:33:01 < bartekww> in main.c i have only init_usart(); and return 0; 2016-08-29T21:33:03 < Fleck> I don't use stdperiph, sorry, using HAL 2016-08-29T21:33:07 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-29T21:33:44 < bartekww> PaulFertser: maybe you know :D? 2016-08-29T21:33:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T21:33:55 < Fleck> and looks like you don't configure PIN_13 as output, quick look - did not see pin config there 2016-08-29T21:34:03 < bartekww> look at the bottom 2016-08-29T21:34:03 < Fleck> PIN_10 two times... 2016-08-29T21:34:07 < bartekww> where 2016-08-29T21:34:10 < Fleck> no you look 2016-08-29T21:34:18 < Fleck> 207 & 212 2016-08-29T21:34:27 < bartekww> ah, bad code 2016-08-29T21:34:32 < bartekww> i made git reset --hard :P 2016-08-29T21:34:54 < Fleck> anyway, can't help with stdperiph :D 2016-08-29T21:34:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.98] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T21:35:28 < PaulFertser> bartekww: just go to frame 1 and think carefully about line 218, there should be something that causes "segfault" there. 2016-08-29T21:35:52 < PaulFertser> bartekww: print related variables with "p/x var_name" etc. 2016-08-29T21:36:04 < bartekww> why segfault at GPIO_SetBits(GPIOC, GPIO_Pin_13); 2016-08-29T21:39:48 < bartekww> okay, it turns on 2016-08-29T21:39:50 < bartekww> but wait :D 2016-08-29T21:40:05 < bartekww> when the function ends 2016-08-29T21:40:09 < bartekww> it turns off 2016-08-29T21:40:34 < bartekww> is there any function like toggle 2016-08-29T21:40:36 < bartekww> not setbits? 2016-08-29T21:42:22 < Fleck> one should read stdperiph docs... 2016-08-29T21:44:20 < Fleck> bartekww: and, if you are planning to use more common MCUs from ST, you should learn Cube HAL, or you will have to learn twice ;D 2016-08-29T21:46:53 < bartekww> why? I hate autoconfiguration 2016-08-29T21:47:15 < bartekww> Cube is a layer between stdperiph and user 2016-08-29T21:47:31 < bartekww> same as stdperiph is a layer between user and cmsis 2016-08-29T21:47:39 < bartekww> etc 2016-08-29T21:48:36 < bartekww> PaulFertser: Fleck i have got no GPIO_ToggleBits function 2016-08-29T21:49:46 < PaulFertser> bartekww: I'd suggest libopencm3 instead of st shit. 2016-08-29T21:50:14 < PaulFertser> bartekww: and in any case you need to have the reference manual handy + git grep teh sources of the functions you use. 2016-08-29T21:50:42 < bartekww> :0 2016-08-29T21:50:52 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.72.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T21:51:09 < bartekww> it's hard to move my project to it? 2016-08-29T21:51:41 < PaulFertser> bartekww: no idea, depends on the size of the project. 2016-08-29T21:52:01 < bartekww> only one file, usart.c for this moment :D 2016-08-29T21:54:15 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T21:57:17 < kakimir> hello pros 2016-08-29T21:57:30 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.227.33.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T22:00:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T22:01:49 < Fleck> bartekww: what? Cube replaces stdperiph, stdperiph is absolute... 2016-08-29T22:03:14 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-29T22:04:18 < Fleck> and you still have to configure periphs... no clue what are you talking about :D what autoconfig :D 2016-08-29T22:06:26 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-a46fe555.06-213-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-29T22:08:11 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has quit [Quit: emergency temporal shift] 2016-08-29T22:09:47 -!- fbs [~buttercup@188.226.153.128] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T22:09:47 -!- fbs [~buttercup@188.226.153.128] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-29T22:09:47 -!- fbs [~buttercup@fsf/member/fbs] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T22:10:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T22:11:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.154.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T22:12:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T22:15:41 < kakimir> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/29/freak-lighting-bolts-kill-300-reindeer-in-norway/ 2016-08-29T22:24:38 < dekar> I'm having EMI issues with Micron SDRAM driven by the STM32F429. Surprisingly enough alternating 16MB writes and reads has hell break loose, emitting way up until at least the 9th harmonic of 864Mhz. 2016-08-29T22:26:08 < dekar> Only reads or only writes are quite harmless, I'm writing an incrementing counter and the read and write loop instructions are inline assembly. So I'm pretty sure compiler optimisations don't affect it. 2016-08-29T22:29:29 < Rob235> this looks a lot better: http://imgur.com/nw5sCB7 2016-08-29T22:31:26 < dekar> Can anyone explain why alternating reads and writes is different from only performing one or the other? I'm quite confused about it. 2016-08-29T22:39:47 < upgrdman> anyone know of a way to simulate a serial port in windows? (for testing purposes) 2016-08-29T22:40:52 < ReadError> upgrdman if you have vbox or vmware 2016-08-29T22:40:58 < ReadError> you can point it to a file 2016-08-29T22:41:19 < upgrdman> i have vmware but i dont want to run my software in the vm guest :( 2016-08-29T22:41:30 < upgrdman> but ya that might be a good way to do it 2016-08-29T22:44:07 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T22:46:25 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-29T22:47:57 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-29T22:49:09 < Steffanx> Laurenceb__ much? http://imgur.com/gallery/C5uvY 2016-08-29T22:49:37 < kakimir> Laurenceb__ summoned 2016-08-29T22:51:30 < Steffanx> i think i used com0com once upgrdman. but its a while ago 2016-08-29T22:51:47 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: I've seen some virtual COM port drivers that can bind to a TCP socket for bidirectional communication. 2016-08-29T22:52:45 < upgrdman> hmm 2016-08-29T22:57:36 < Sync> socat ;) 2016-08-29T23:00:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T23:02:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T23:06:33 -!- qyx [~qyx@krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T23:13:12 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-29T23:14:52 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T23:21:29 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T23:21:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T23:25:31 < inca> anyone had any issues with different sd cards with the stm32f4? 2016-08-29T23:25:43 < inca> some cards work. some don't. same manufacturer 2016-08-29T23:29:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-29T23:29:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T23:39:04 < zyp> don't work how? 2016-08-29T23:40:44 < inca> zyp: good question. I do not know exactly. it is repeatable though not yet diagnosed. (I am remote) 2016-08-29T23:42:26 < dekar> inca, I had one Apacer card go into read only while being written by an STM32. I'm trying SanDisk right now, hope it'll work out better. 2016-08-29T23:42:41 < dekar> Overall SDIO works fine. 2016-08-29T23:42:58 < inca> dekar: these are all sandisk 2016-08-29T23:43:25 < dekar> Just make sure to use DMA, there's some errata about fifo underruns. 2016-08-29T23:43:52 < dekar> Afaik there's no workaround to sporadic errors unless you use DMA, or maybe really slow transfer speeds. 2016-08-29T23:46:37 < inca> hmm... the eval board uses 4 data lines. this design uses one. 2016-08-29T23:47:27 < zyp> one is slower than 4, so underruns should be less of a problem 2016-08-29T23:48:01 < dekar> zyp, I think they still happen sporadic without DMA. 2016-08-29T23:48:23 < Laurenceb__> Steffanx: thats called British humour 2016-08-29T23:48:41 < dekar> My STM3241G has signal integrity issues when using the SD card at 48mhz. A bit disappointing, yet our custom design works fine. 2016-08-29T23:49:11 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-29T23:52:03 < inca> dekar: we are running at 48 mhz 2016-08-29T23:52:09 < inca> tell me more 2016-08-29T23:52:32 < zyp> oh, 48MHz 2016-08-29T23:52:33 < inca> well, we are running the peripheral clock for usb at 48 mhz 2016-08-29T23:52:47 < kakimir> too fast edges? 2016-08-29T23:52:49 < zyp> there's an errata on that, you can't do that 2016-08-29T23:53:25 < zyp> SDIO doesn't work with divider set to 1/1, needs to be 1/2 or less 2016-08-29T23:53:52 < zyp> so only way to run it at 48MHz is by running the 48MHz clock output from the PLL at 96MHz 2016-08-29T23:54:04 < inca> oh oh 2016-08-29T23:54:06 < inca> sorry 2016-08-29T23:54:11 < zyp> which of course won't let you run USB 2016-08-29T23:54:14 < inca> main clock is 168 mhz 2016-08-29T23:55:07 < inca> peripheral clocks get divided down. usb is used. 2016-08-29T23:55:31 < inca> sd works for most of the sandisk cards that are used 2016-08-29T23:55:38 < inca> however, that errata sounds relevant 2016-08-29T23:55:54 < zyp> which part are you using? 2016-08-29T23:56:20 < inca> STM32F427IGH6 2016-08-29T23:57:26 < zyp> hmm, the one I mention is a F40x errata, looks like they might have fixed it in f42x 2016-08-29T23:58:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-29T23:59:16 < inca> f427 errata http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/errata_sheet/38/e6/37/64/08/38/45/67/DM00068628.pdf/files/DM00068628.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00068628.pdf 2016-08-29T23:59:29 < inca> p 29, section 2.10 2016-08-29T23:59:58 < inca> I don't see a 48 mhz issue there --- Day changed Tue Aug 30 2016 2016-08-30T00:00:07 < zyp> yeah, I already have that open 2016-08-30T00:00:20 < zyp> so it only applies to f40x 2016-08-30T00:01:24 < inca> cool. though it looks like we may not get the errors if they are occurring, such as underflow. 2016-08-30T00:03:40 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T00:04:17 < dekar> zyp, I'm not sure about the 48Mhz issue, I do know it didn't work on my STM3241G Eval-Board. (STM32F417) Yet with a custom STM32F429 board it's fine. (Including USB) 2016-08-30T00:05:28 < zyp> f41x is f40x with crypto, so it should be affected by the same issue 2016-08-30T00:05:35 < dekar> Has anyone tried spread spectrum? I'm getting a bit desperate about EMI. 2016-08-30T00:05:47 < zyp> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/errata_sheet/0a/98/58/84/86/b6/47/a2/DM00037591.pdf/files/DM00037591.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00037591.pdf 2016-08-30T00:05:54 < zyp> ref .2.11.3 2016-08-30T00:06:06 < inca> thanks dekar and zyp =) 2016-08-30T00:06:29 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.227.33.77] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T00:06:53 < zyp> trying to meet some EMI compliance and failing? 2016-08-30T00:07:27 < dekar> zyp, yeah twice already. It's leaking through every hole in the case. :/ 2016-08-30T00:08:03 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.72.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-30T00:09:25 < Laurenceb__> I've done full CE 2016-08-30T00:09:34 < Laurenceb__> what is you case made from? 2016-08-30T00:10:02 < dekar> Aluminium and plastic. 2016-08-30T00:10:22 < dekar> Laurenceb__, did you have SDRAM on the board? 2016-08-30T00:10:53 < zyp> hmm, I'm not looking forward to dealing with that 2016-08-30T00:11:07 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@223.227.33.77] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-30T00:11:21 < karlp> sounds thrilling dekar :) I'm curious, but don't have any input :) 2016-08-30T00:12:38 < dekar> My SDRAM test-loop is like this: http://pastebin.com/sBGu57Zq 2016-08-30T00:13:04 < zyp> wat 2016-08-30T00:13:09 < dekar> It's probably way more load than normal operation, but I wanted to assume worst case: http://pastebin.com/sBGu57Zq 2016-08-30T00:15:28 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774e6a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-08-30T00:16:02 < zyp> why are you writing 32-bit words at 8-bit increments? 2016-08-30T00:16:22 < zyp> oh, nevermind 2016-08-30T00:16:23 < zyp> I'm dumb 2016-08-30T00:16:49 < zyp> got source and target for str wrong in my head 2016-08-30T00:17:14 < Laurenceb__> dekar: no 2016-08-30T00:17:32 < inca> dekar: I just use C assignments and xor 0xa5 => 0x5a 2016-08-30T00:17:46 < inca> all bits get exercised 2016-08-30T00:19:10 < dekar> inca, I have a separate test in C as well. I just did some asm to get rid of compiler variations. The test isn't really the issue I think, that MT48LC8M16A2P emitting >1ghz is. -.-" 2016-08-30T00:20:20 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:94e3:dfe5:7fe1:18fe] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-30T00:20:22 < inca> *ptr_32word = 0x0000 0000; assert it's zero; *ptr_32word ^= 0xa5a5 a5a5; assert that it is 0xa5a5 a5a5; *ptr_32word ^= 0xa5a5 a5a5; assert that it is 0x5a5a 5a5a 2016-08-30T00:20:25 < zyp> bad routing or termination? 2016-08-30T00:20:29 < Laurenceb__> dekar: you are testing yourself/ 2016-08-30T00:20:38 < Laurenceb__> do you have a test cell? 2016-08-30T00:21:00 < inca> dekar: hmm... make your 1 ghz tuning rod and hunt it down =) 2016-08-30T00:21:11 < inca> err... diving stick ;) 2016-08-30T00:22:01 < Laurenceb__> dekar: I've only had fairly simple dataloggers tested 2016-08-30T00:22:15 < Laurenceb__> polycarbonate/PP cases, no EMI issues 2016-08-30T00:22:38 < Laurenceb__> the worst noise was at 3xF_cpu, but it was below the limit in all cases 2016-08-30T00:23:05 < dekar> Laurenceb__, we're renting a lab/cell for that. 2016-08-30T00:23:08 < Laurenceb__> I'd advise checking test cell calibration 2016-08-30T00:23:09 < zyp> I wonder how much shit I'd have to go through to legally sell that EV charge thing I've been thinking about making 2016-08-30T00:23:09 < Laurenceb__> ok 2016-08-30T00:23:24 < Laurenceb__> dekar: aiui for CE you test using the final firmware 2016-08-30T00:23:34 < Laurenceb__> so there are a ton of tricks you can use 2016-08-30T00:24:00 < Laurenceb__> also the integration period and bandwidth of the spectrum analyser isnt nailed down very well 2016-08-30T00:24:02 < zyp> Laurenceb__, how does that work for a device with replacable firmware? 2016-08-30T00:24:09 < zyp> say for instance open source 2016-08-30T00:24:10 < Laurenceb__> its very easy to pull WV type tricks 2016-08-30T00:24:33 < Laurenceb__> zyp: I'm not that familiar with the intricacies of EMI compliance 2016-08-30T00:25:03 < dekar> Laurenceb__, yeah I can probably make it pass somehow, but right now it's over 5dB above the limit using the torture test. And the EMI is passing into the STM32 through the data and address pins and leaking oozing out of all the others. 2016-08-30T00:25:12 < Laurenceb__> in my case it was a matter of declaring that the tested firmware was representative, and that new firmware would not change f_cpu or make other significant differences to performance 2016-08-30T00:25:19 < dekar> Most around 600mhz-1ghz. 2016-08-30T00:25:39 < Laurenceb__> 5dB during a torture test sounds good news to me 2016-08-30T00:25:44 < zyp> Laurenceb__, ah, makes sense 2016-08-30T00:26:09 < Laurenceb__> you can easily get 10dB improvement with real firmware and "right" analyser settings 2016-08-30T00:26:33 < Laurenceb__> although this may have been tightened up more recently 2016-08-30T00:26:38 < dekar> We have added some series termination and all the recommended decoupling, so I am really confused why SDRAM is such an issue. I mean it's not even DDR. 2016-08-30T00:26:40 < Laurenceb__> and it might depend on who is testing it for you 2016-08-30T00:27:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:94e3:dfe5:7fe1:18fe] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T00:27:28 < Laurenceb__> is there a continuous ground plane? 2016-08-30T00:27:55 < dekar> It's two stacked boards, and both are encapsulated in ground planes. 2016-08-30T00:27:58 < Laurenceb__> iirc an early datalogger prototype failed badly, but it had poor ground plane around stm32 2016-08-30T00:28:18 < Laurenceb__> stacked? what is the board to board separation? 2016-08-30T00:28:52 < dekar> Laurenceb__, 1.5cm 2016-08-30T00:28:57 < Laurenceb__> eeek 2016-08-30T00:29:08 < Laurenceb__> and you are running high speed comms between them? 2016-08-30T00:29:20 < dekar> No HF signals are passing that, the STM and the SDRAM are tightly coupled. 2016-08-30T00:29:46 < Laurenceb__> ah 2016-08-30T00:30:03 < dekar> Yet I have all the horror harmonics even on my PWM LED control lines. Like I said, it's oozing out of most STM32 pins. 2016-08-30T00:30:32 < zyp> how's decoupling? 2016-08-30T00:30:39 < dekar> The pin groups shared with SDRAM/FSMC are most affected. 2016-08-30T00:30:42 < Sync> Laurenceb__: that is gonna get nailed down better next rev 2016-08-30T00:30:49 < Sync> the emi lab here worked on that 2016-08-30T00:31:14 < Laurenceb__> sounds sensible 2016-08-30T00:31:31 < Laurenceb__> dekar: I fear you have made some sort of slot antenna 2016-08-30T00:31:49 < dekar> zyp, SDRAM has 7x 100nF the F4 has like twice as much. 2016-08-30T00:31:57 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-30T00:31:58 < Laurenceb__> dekar: interestingly the prototype datalogger we had which failed had a similared stacked construction 2016-08-30T00:32:05 < Sync> dekar: encapsulated sounds like ground planes on the outsides 2016-08-30T00:32:20 < Laurenceb__> dekar: I've noticed quite a lot of crosstalk between stm32 pin groups 2016-08-30T00:33:03 < dekar> Laurenceb__, I am actually pretty sure I made a slot antenna, removing the top board lets me pass. -.- 2016-08-30T00:33:20 < Laurenceb__> e.g. on my ofdm spectrometer system, digital comms on the same pins as the outputs caused interference until I added Schmitt trigger buffering to the LED drive 2016-08-30T00:33:30 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-30T00:33:53 < Laurenceb__> I wonder if some better grounding of the top board would help 2016-08-30T00:34:06 < Laurenceb__> or maybe ground at the opposite end from the existing connector 2016-08-30T00:34:33 < dekar> Mostly I'm wondering if SDRAM being crazy like that is normal. The SD card barely emits anything measurable, yet the SDRAM spams ghz. 2016-08-30T00:34:55 < Laurenceb__> sounds likely to me 2016-08-30T00:35:11 < Laurenceb__> probably also some GPIO crosstalk going on 2016-08-30T00:35:11 < dekar> I think I'll try additional grounding 2016-08-30T00:35:12 < zyp> sounds like a way too high drive strength or something 2016-08-30T00:35:27 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T00:35:34 < Laurenceb__> zyp: drive strength doesnt solve the crosstalk issues 2016-08-30T00:36:07 < Laurenceb__> Schmitt triggers on your LED lines right next to the stm32 would 2016-08-30T00:36:12 < Laurenceb__> but thats getting silly 2016-08-30T00:36:23 < dekar> zyp, I have lowered the rise times to "GPIO_Init_Structure.Speed = GPIO_SPEED_FREQ_MEDIUM;". From my understanding it's all being emitted by the RAM IC. 2016-08-30T00:36:46 < zyp> yes, I mean drive strength on the sdram side 2016-08-30T00:36:54 < emeb> high drive strength can exacerbate crosstalk - makes faster edges and more coupling @ HF. 2016-08-30T00:37:19 < zyp> which you obviously can't change without changing the part 2016-08-30T00:37:24 < Laurenceb__> emeb: yeah but you are limited to what you can do with the SDRAM pins 2016-08-30T00:37:29 < dekar> Laurenceb__, we have actually discussed schmitt triggers and also concluded it was silly. :D 2016-08-30T00:37:44 < Laurenceb__> emeb: I meant that drive strength on the LED pins 2016-08-30T00:37:45 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-30T00:37:46 < emeb> Laurenceb__: well, you can put in source termination, but that's more fiddly than most would want. 2016-08-30T00:37:53 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-30T00:38:42 < Laurenceb__> I saw maybe 50dB crosstalk attenuation between pin groups on my spectrometer project 2016-08-30T00:39:40 < Laurenceb__> with nasty SDRAM signals on some of the pins that may well be enough to excite the slot antenna behaviour enough to cause EMI issues 2016-08-30T00:40:09 < dekar> I think I'll try additional grounding between the boards, and then replacing the IC. Maybe the ISSI(?) one ST uses. 2016-08-30T00:41:42 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Adde Parvum Parvo Magnus Acervus Erit] 2016-08-30T00:41:56 < dekar> Writing to the SDRAM barely causes issues, which is to be expected. Yet only reading it also is comparatively harmless. The worst by far is alternating both. Any ideas on that? It just doesn't make sense to me. 2016-08-30T00:43:42 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-30T00:44:55 < Laurenceb__> omg an update http://www.emdrive.com/ 2016-08-30T00:45:25 < zyp> IIRC SDRAM accesses are batched, so sequential reads or sequential writes will cause less bus activity than random accesses 2016-08-30T00:45:57 < zyp> if you're alternating for every single access, each is probably causing a batch access or something 2016-08-30T00:46:08 < kakimir> when is the first flight Laurenceb__ ? 2016-08-30T00:46:38 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: never cuz it s fake 2016-08-30T00:46:50 < dekar> I am alternating 16MB writes and reads. 2016-08-30T00:46:53 < Laurenceb__> just waiting for the n00bs to realise, its going to be funny 2016-08-30T00:47:22 < kakimir> no it must be real 2016-08-30T00:48:30 < Laurenceb__> kakimir confirmed as emdriver 2016-08-30T00:49:17 < kakimir> future is real 2016-08-30T00:49:28 < kakimir> resistance is futile 2016-08-30T00:49:58 < Sync> Did the thermal design compensation work satisfactorily? 2016-08-30T00:50:00 < Sync> kek 2016-08-30T00:56:05 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T00:58:55 < kakimir> Sync: who are you talking to? 2016-08-30T00:59:17 < Laurenceb__> lul the thrust plots 2016-08-30T00:59:26 < Laurenceb__> obviously a thermal effect 2016-08-30T01:00:10 < Sync> yeah I mean even the review says this 2016-08-30T01:02:40 < kakimir> why isn't the setup placed inside a box? 2016-08-30T01:02:58 < ReadError> Laurenceb__ where can I get just the pumphead 2016-08-30T01:03:02 < ReadError> like a good legit one 2016-08-30T01:03:10 < ReadError> not some fugazi chinese plastic 2016-08-30T01:03:22 < Laurenceb__> pumphead? huh 2016-08-30T01:03:43 < ReadError> peristaltic pump 2016-08-30T01:03:50 < Laurenceb__> oh 2016-08-30T01:03:52 < ReadError> you said you used some medical ones 2016-08-30T01:03:59 < kakimir> pumphead? 2016-08-30T01:04:07 < ReadError> dont get any ideas kakimir 2016-08-30T01:04:09 < kakimir> sounds kinky 2016-08-30T01:05:47 < Laurenceb__> I ordered direct from Parker 2016-08-30T01:05:56 < Laurenceb__> but I had a massive budget to blow 2016-08-30T01:06:12 < Laurenceb__> they charged me UKP600/pump head lol 2016-08-30T01:06:25 < ReadError> fuckkk 2016-08-30T01:06:32 < ReadError> i mean it seems simple 2016-08-30T01:06:41 < ReadError> but aint nobody got time for that 2016-08-30T01:06:42 < Laurenceb__> yeah its just molded plastic 2016-08-30T01:06:52 < Laurenceb__> try some of the chinese places perhaps 2016-08-30T01:07:04 < ReadError> im lookin for one that will take a NEMA17 2016-08-30T01:07:07 < ReadError> or so 2016-08-30T01:07:20 < ReadError> is that uncommon? 2016-08-30T01:07:26 < Laurenceb__> oh quite large 2016-08-30T01:07:34 < Laurenceb__> probably, most take DC motors 2016-08-30T01:07:36 < Sync> PaulFertser: around? 2016-08-30T01:07:42 < Laurenceb__> why not SLS polymer? 2016-08-30T01:07:50 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T01:07:54 < ReadError> i dont want to make one lol 2016-08-30T01:08:00 < ReadError> if I did it would be in aluminum or something anyways 2016-08-30T01:08:28 < Laurenceb__> yeah so order SLS from a supplier 2016-08-30T01:08:30 < ReadError> seems hard to meter properly w/ a DC motor 2016-08-30T01:08:32 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T01:08:34 < Laurenceb__> I pay ~$100/litre 2016-08-30T01:08:37 < ReadError> like dropwise 2016-08-30T01:08:46 < Laurenceb__> yeah I agree on DC motors 2016-08-30T01:08:59 < Sync> dc motor with encoder 2016-08-30T01:09:04 < ReadError> during the titration a ton of heat is produced 2016-08-30T01:09:13 < ReadError> so I want to meter it based on temp 2016-08-30T01:09:18 < Laurenceb__> I used diaphragm and solenoid valves for similar job 2016-08-30T01:09:25 < Laurenceb__> this is what I used the parker kit for 2016-08-30T01:09:28 < ReadError> pumping acid? 2016-08-30T01:09:32 < Laurenceb__> nah blood 2016-08-30T01:09:36 < ReadError> oh lol 2016-08-30T01:10:00 < Sync> https://de.aliexpress.com/item/new-arrival-one-pcs-new-peristaltic-pump-dosing-pump-with-42-imported-stepper-motor-tubing-hose/1320097380.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_8,searchweb201602_3_10057_10056_10065_10055_10054_10059_10058_10017_107_10060_10061_10052_414_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=4739e8d8-46c6-467d-bd79-1355c0ecbebf 2016-08-30T01:10:02 < Laurenceb__> but unless you have megabucks, avoid Parker stuff 2016-08-30T01:10:05 < Sync> shiet like that 2016-08-30T01:10:15 < Sync> parker ftw 2016-08-30T01:10:15 < Laurenceb__> my budget was $30k/assembly 2016-08-30T01:10:21 < ReadError> oh damn thats perfect Sync 2016-08-30T01:10:58 < Laurenceb__> oh wow 2016-08-30T01:11:05 < Laurenceb__> your invention has been invented 2016-08-30T01:11:34 < Laurenceb__> I like how its panel mounting so user can replace the hose 2016-08-30T01:11:50 < ReadError> hows priming work? 2016-08-30T01:12:05 < ReadError> dont want to suck on a tube with HCl 2016-08-30T01:12:09 < Laurenceb__> huh? 2016-08-30T01:12:14 < Laurenceb__> just run the pump 2016-08-30T01:12:15 < ReadError> some say "self priming' 2016-08-30T01:12:18 < Sync> a peristaltic is self priming 2016-08-30T01:12:22 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-30T01:12:33 < Sync> also what is so bad about sucking hcl? 2016-08-30T01:12:41 < ReadError> ahh just just moves the air and it creates suction I guess 2016-08-30T01:12:41 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-30T01:12:48 < ReadError> Sync nothing, I quite enjoy it 2016-08-30T01:12:48 < Sync> Laurenceb__: I prefer mood for hydraulics tho 2016-08-30T01:12:51 < ReadError> in my eyes 2016-08-30T01:12:54 < Laurenceb__> detecting when fluid is present is tricky tho 2016-08-30T01:12:57 < ReadError> the vapors 2016-08-30T01:13:11 < ReadError> yea ill manually start it thats fine 2016-08-30T01:13:12 < Laurenceb__> capacitive works, I tried to make a capacitive fluid sensor and failed epically 2016-08-30T01:13:34 < ReadError> its all based on temp so as far as drop detection goes not very important 2016-08-30T01:13:42 < Laurenceb__> turns out I had moisture inside my DIY sensor element and the AD capacitive sensing IC doesnt like that 2016-08-30T01:13:52 < ReadError> but thats why i wanted a stepper over a DC, can run it low-n-slow 2016-08-30T01:14:26 < Sync> you can do the same with a dc 2016-08-30T01:14:42 < Laurenceb__> meanwhile in murica https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/08/29/205205/65-year-old-woman-shoots-down-drone-over-her-virginia-property-with-one-shot 2016-08-30T01:14:57 < ReadError> Sync not w/o an encoder or some feedback 2016-08-30T01:15:04 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-30T01:15:08 < kakimir> easy target 2016-08-30T01:15:14 < ReadError> seems easier to just run dumb with a stepper 2016-08-30T01:15:29 < ReadError> ofc I cant find that pump in the USA but its all over ebay china 2016-08-30T01:16:09 < Sync> ye 2016-08-30T01:16:18 < Laurenceb__> hopefully nobody will shoot the pump 2016-08-30T01:16:47 < Laurenceb__> "I saw a weird NEMA17 stepper operated pump, so naturally I shot it" 2016-08-30T01:17:01 < ReadError> well this is america 2016-08-30T01:17:26 < Sync> Laurenceb__: done any LVDT shits for servo valve stuff? 2016-08-30T01:17:39 < kakimir> I wonder is shooting random objects is dangerous for shooter 2016-08-30T01:17:53 < kakimir> with bullet type weapon 2016-08-30T01:18:18 < Laurenceb__> Sync: no, but I managed to get closed loop control running with a solenoid once 2016-08-30T01:18:50 < Laurenceb__> ReadError: apparently falcon9 rocket has to be disguised as an oil pipe during transport or people will shoot it 2016-08-30T01:19:02 < ReadError> lol 2016-08-30T01:19:07 < ReadError> what 2016-08-30T01:20:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-30T01:21:13 < Thorn> what about the huge SPACEX logo 2016-08-30T01:21:51 < Laurenceb__> they rap it in black plastic and put covers on the end to make it look like a long plastic coated tube 2016-08-30T01:21:59 < Thorn> http://www.universetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/13041071_1201332223223956_910633573129332355_o.jpg 2016-08-30T01:22:15 < Laurenceb__> Sync: PWM drive to solenoid through a current transformer worked well for position sensing 2016-08-30T01:22:35 < Laurenceb__> closed loop control not so well - its very nonlinear 2016-08-30T01:23:03 < Sync> well, I mean like servo valve control :P 2016-08-30T01:23:31 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-30T01:23:33 < Sync> I have analog valve control working in my ESC shits 2016-08-30T01:23:42 < Sync> although I just map a flow value to a current 2016-08-30T01:23:51 < Sync> so I get rid of all the nonlinearities 2016-08-30T01:25:08 < Sync> I should try actual position sensing 2016-08-30T01:26:21 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T01:27:08 -!- CipherWizard [~cipherwiz@216-21-169-52.slc.googlefiber.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T01:28:40 < Sync> how do you sense the current? 2016-08-30T01:31:52 < Laurenceb__> current transformer 2016-08-30T01:31:58 < Laurenceb__> I only look at the ripple 2016-08-30T01:32:13 < Laurenceb__> then calculate the inductance and map that to the position 2016-08-30T01:32:34 < upgrdman> reading the comments here, so many idiots that don't know what theyre talking about. https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/5057wz/eli5_why_is_ac_better_than_dc/ 2016-08-30T01:32:49 < Laurenceb__> lul reddit 2016-08-30T01:32:56 < ReadMobl> need to make up a big ass stirplate too 2016-08-30T01:32:58 < upgrdman> its like half lolwut, half blind-leading-the-blind 2016-08-30T01:33:06 < ReadMobl> or go overhead 2016-08-30T01:33:08 < Sync> hmm 2016-08-30T01:33:34 < Sync> you take your pwm duty and the acheived current and then you derive L from that? 2016-08-30T01:33:37 < Sync> hmm 2016-08-30T01:33:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-30T01:33:53 < Laurenceb__> yes 2016-08-30T01:34:34 < Laurenceb__> well I also measure the supply voltage, and then derive coil resistance and inductance from the rise and fall 2016-08-30T01:34:49 < Laurenceb__> resistance changes quite a bit due to temperature 2016-08-30T01:35:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T01:35:49 < Laurenceb__> tbh I only ever got the hardware running on nasty prototype with a discovery board 2016-08-30T01:36:25 < Laurenceb__> dismantled it now, and used a linear stepper as it was easier, iirc the current transformer interfaced directly with the F4 ADC 2016-08-30T01:36:37 < Laurenceb__> there was some overvoltage protection in there tho 2016-08-30T01:37:25 < Sync> hm, how do you measure coil resistance? 2016-08-30T01:37:51 < Laurenceb__> I used a kalman filter, measured with multimeter to get initial value 2016-08-30T01:38:07 < Laurenceb__> then solved after each pwm cycle for resistance and inductance 2016-08-30T01:38:13 < Laurenceb__> no wait 2016-08-30T01:38:35 < Laurenceb__> yeah filtered adc signal went into the kalman filter 2016-08-30T01:38:51 < Laurenceb__> then it spat out the inductance and resistance as the state vector 2016-08-30T01:39:43 < Sync> pffft 2016-08-30T01:39:57 < Sync> 3advanced5me 2016-08-30T01:40:04 < Laurenceb__> there were three ADC inputs, the voltage at either end of the coil and the current transformer output 2016-08-30T01:40:25 < Laurenceb__> and the kalman also had the current pwm phase 2016-08-30T01:40:27 < Sync> 0o why do you sample the two voltages? 2016-08-30T01:41:11 < Laurenceb__> to avoid issues with drift in the FET voltage drop or the freewheel diode drop 2016-08-30T01:41:43 < Sync> hm 2016-08-30T01:41:46 < Sync> yeah ok 2016-08-30T01:41:57 < Laurenceb__> it gave extremely precise position info once calibrated 2016-08-30T01:42:02 < Laurenceb__> prob ~20µm 2016-08-30T01:42:30 < Laurenceb__> and without extra hardware and at high update rate 2016-08-30T01:42:51 < Sync> yeah, that doesn't sound bad 2016-08-30T01:42:55 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T01:43:16 < Sync> only issue is that I have not much experience with kalman filters 2016-08-30T01:43:41 < Laurenceb__> as kalman filters go it was very basic, just inductance and resistance state vector 2016-08-30T01:44:18 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T01:44:49 < Sync> sure, just never set one up myself 2016-08-30T01:45:14 < Laurenceb__> also the ADC way synchronised - iirc timer -> adc and pwm timer as master 2016-08-30T01:45:17 < Laurenceb__> *was 2016-08-30T01:45:49 < Laurenceb__> so each adc sample came at a fixed PWM phase 2016-08-30T01:47:18 < Thorn> https://www.quora.com/How-does-SpaceX-transport-its-rockets-from-Hawthorn-to-Cape-Canaveral <- is this the disguise? 2016-08-30T01:47:49 < Laurenceb__> looks about right 2016-08-30T01:47:55 < Thorn> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Falcon_9_first_stage_arrives_at_SLC-40_hangar_-_CRS-2_(KSC-2012-6533).jpg 2016-08-30T01:49:52 < Sync> did you sample at the start and end of the pwm or one end or midpointß 2016-08-30T01:50:43 < Laurenceb__> midpoints and close to either end, but avoided the switching 2016-08-30T01:50:55 < Sync> hmm 2016-08-30T01:51:03 < Sync> I wonder if you actually need the kalman 2016-08-30T01:51:07 < Sync> the slope will give you L 2016-08-30T01:51:21 < Sync> and midpoint acheived I should give you R 2016-08-30T01:51:35 < Sync> but yeah I guess a filter doesn't hurt 2016-08-30T01:52:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T01:52:49 < Laurenceb__> yeah this is why the kalman is pretty simple 2016-08-30T01:52:51 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T01:56:21 < Sync> I'd have to write it out 2016-08-30T01:56:38 < Sync> I guess you sample the voltages using ADC1/2 at the same time 2016-08-30T01:56:44 < Sync> and then a bit later current 2016-08-30T01:59:02 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-30T02:06:00 < Sync> gotta try that 2016-08-30T02:12:58 < Laurenceb__> :D 2016-08-30T02:13:28 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T02:14:08 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/9Zs2tJz.gif 2016-08-30T02:14:23 < kakimir> future. 2016-08-30T02:15:48 < Sync> did you model the moving part dynamics Laurenceb__? 2016-08-30T02:15:55 < Sync> as that will be in the state space for the back emf 2016-08-30T02:18:03 < Laurenceb__> no I didnt get that far 2016-08-30T02:18:37 < Laurenceb__> just worked on positioning, then decided to use linear stepper as I needed more movement range 2016-08-30T02:19:12 < Sync> so you just assume U=R*I+L*Idot 2016-08-30T02:19:36 < Sync> because otherwise you'd get Kb*Velocity too 2016-08-30T02:19:59 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-30T02:20:18 < Sync> hmm 2016-08-30T02:21:13 < Sync> ah that is actually clever, because you don't need to sample U and I at the same time as for L you only need the slope 2016-08-30T02:23:43 < Laurenceb__> yeah Idot is swapping sign at the pwm frequency 2016-08-30T02:24:31 < Sync> yeah, did you sample all the time or only during conduction or were you using a fullbridge? 2016-08-30T02:24:59 < Sync> I guess you can calibrate the offset from the sample points U to I out 2016-08-30T02:25:02 < Sync> as you know the slope 2016-08-30T02:25:10 < Laurenceb__> I sampled all the time, but was just using half bridge (just a single FET and a diode) 2016-08-30T02:25:11 < Sync> you can calculate which I you had when you sampled U 2016-08-30T02:25:38 < Sync> I would have only sampled during conduction 2016-08-30T02:25:39 < Laurenceb__> the current transformer with one side at 1.65v and the other into the F4 ADC measured Idot directly 2016-08-30T02:25:40 < Sync> but eh 2016-08-30T02:26:18 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/nDB6m88.png 2016-08-30T02:26:31 < Sync> 0o, how does that give you Idot if you are not using a rogowski coil 2016-08-30T02:26:31 -!- maenthri1 [maenthrie@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-lqrcvrizvxwgqgyu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T02:27:36 < Laurenceb__> erm I was 2016-08-30T02:28:04 < kakimir> upgrdman: lulz 2016-08-30T02:28:16 < Laurenceb__> you can get little SMD ones 2016-08-30T02:28:24 < Sync> ok if you are using a rogowski coil then that is actually seksi 2016-08-30T02:28:27 < Laurenceb__> or larger depending on the amount of current 2016-08-30T02:28:51 < Sync> but then you don't get a direct measurement of I 2016-08-30T02:28:55 < Sync> which is what I'm doing 2016-08-30T02:28:59 < Sync> regulate I closedloop 2016-08-30T02:29:05 < Laurenceb__> I just called it "current transformer", which is what digikey called it lol 2016-08-30T02:29:05 < Sync> works suprisingly well too 2016-08-30T02:29:22 < Sync> well, important difference here ;) 2016-08-30T02:29:43 < Sync> otherwise we could be emdriving as well 2016-08-30T02:30:22 < Sync> actually are there smd rogowskis? 2016-08-30T02:30:27 < Sync> I can't seem to find some 2016-08-30T02:30:42 < Sync> and if you use a CT you only get I 2016-08-30T02:30:44 < Sync> and not Idot 2016-08-30T02:32:19 -!- fenugrec_ [~Q@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T02:34:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T02:34:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-30T02:34:37 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-30T02:40:46 < Laurenceb__> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/epcos-tdk/B82801A824A100/495-4040-2-ND/2045163 2016-08-30T02:40:51 < Laurenceb__> I used something like that 2016-08-30T02:41:23 < Sync> that is a regular ct 2016-08-30T02:41:37 < Sync> that will give you I 2016-08-30T02:42:34 < Laurenceb__> theres no difference 2016-08-30T02:42:50 < Laurenceb__> rogowski is a regular transformer 2016-08-30T02:44:30 < zyp> no? 2016-08-30T02:44:47 < zyp> as far as I understand, rogowski will give you dI and needs to be integrated 2016-08-30T02:45:21 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-30T02:45:57 < Laurenceb__> as will a normal transformer 2016-08-30T02:46:08 < Laurenceb__> if you operate the secondary open circuit 2016-08-30T02:46:32 -!- ABLomas [abl@78-60-198-200.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T02:46:53 < Laurenceb__> there is only one sort of transformer, the transformer 2016-08-30T02:47:37 < zyp> I'm pretty sure you're full of shit right now, but I don't know enough about this shit to argue against you 2016-08-30T02:48:15 < Laurenceb__> lul 2016-08-30T02:48:49 < Laurenceb__> Maxwells equations aren't complex 2016-08-30T02:51:12 < zyp> hmm 2016-08-30T02:51:19 < zyp> are you actually familiar with rogowski coils? 2016-08-30T02:51:37 < Laurenceb__> yes, they are used in multimeters 2016-08-30T02:51:51 < Laurenceb__> its just a transformer with an unconventional geometry 2016-08-30T02:52:12 < Sync> o__0 2016-08-30T02:52:41 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations#Formulation_in_SI_units_convention 2016-08-30T02:52:47 < Laurenceb__> third equation 2016-08-30T02:53:09 < Laurenceb__> thats where you get Idot dependence from 2016-08-30T02:54:54 < Sync> sure 2016-08-30T02:56:46 < zyp> I haven't been following the entire discussion so I'm not sure what you're actually discussing and what this Idot is 2016-08-30T02:56:56 < zyp> but current transformers are not interchangeable with rogowskis 2016-08-30T02:56:57 < Sync> Idot is the derivative of I 2016-08-30T02:57:08 < zyp> sure 2016-08-30T02:58:19 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_transformer 2016-08-30T02:58:29 < Laurenceb__> wikipedia says yes (see first diagram) 2016-08-30T02:58:42 < karlp> a rogowski isn't a fucking ct. 2016-08-30T02:59:19 < Sync> if you are measuring without a burden I could follow you although I'd have to think about it 2016-08-30T02:59:29 < Laurenceb__> exactly 2016-08-30T02:59:40 < Sync> yeah, you're right 2016-08-30T02:59:43 < Laurenceb__> with no load (output straight into ADC) they are the same thing 2016-08-30T02:59:44 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-30T03:00:01 < Sync> well, its obvious, but I never used a ct without a burden 2016-08-30T03:00:26 < karlp> wat "no load" you're emdriving again 2016-08-30T03:00:59 < Sync> karlp: if you are purely measuring the CTs *voltage* so without a load resistor you are indeed measuring dI/dt 2016-08-30T03:01:28 < Sync> as with the burden you are converting current to voltage 2016-08-30T03:01:42 < karlp> the burden is the coil resistance at that point 2016-08-30T03:01:51 < karlp> its' still not a rogowski 2016-08-30T03:01:58 < Sync> it is not the same thing, yes 2016-08-30T03:02:08 < Sync> but for this application it produces the same result 2016-08-30T03:02:46 < karlp> when you have a burden you're measuring the voltage and just assuming that's the current too 2016-08-30T03:03:13 < karlp> is this just a special viewpoint where we get o call things what we like? 2016-08-30T03:03:50 < karlp> if you got curent induced to measure voltage, you had a "burden" just not as big and explicit as normal 2016-08-30T03:04:36 < Laurenceb__> nope the burden is the coil inductance 2016-08-30T03:04:51 < aandrew> hm? 2016-08-30T03:04:58 < aandrew> I spent many years working with CTs 2016-08-30T03:05:28 < aandrew> as long as you're in the linear range, you're not above the operating frequency of the CT (including harmonics) and you have no DC, you're good 2016-08-30T03:05:41 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2016-08-30T03:07:30 -!- keep-pumpin [7bf38b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.243.139.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T03:10:24 < aandrew> hm, on STM32F7 they got rid of full duplex I2S 2016-08-30T03:10:28 < aandrew> only half duplex now 2016-08-30T03:10:35 < aandrew> maybe the SAIs are on the same pins 2016-08-30T03:11:02 < Sync> I like the idea of directly measuring Idot 2016-08-30T03:18:19 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:94e3:dfe5:7fe1:18fe] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-30T03:19:28 < Sync> Laurenceb__: fuck you, now I have to try that shit 2016-08-30T03:19:40 < Laurenceb__> lol 2016-08-30T03:20:09 < Laurenceb__> its only like 6 components and a discovery board 2016-08-30T03:20:33 < Sync> sure 2016-08-30T03:20:39 < Sync> but I still have to dick it up 2016-08-30T03:22:27 < Sync> well, some diodes to provide overvoltage protection for the ct 2016-08-30T03:22:36 < Sync> and 4 resistors I guess + fet 2016-08-30T03:23:11 < keep-pumpin> hi Laurenceb__ 2016-08-30T03:23:33 < Laurenceb__> is dat some crt? 2016-08-30T03:24:03 < keep-pumpin> yea 2016-08-30T03:24:39 < Laurenceb__> you would like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-afCY7iTFnY 2016-08-30T03:25:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T03:26:03 < keep-pumpin> Laurenceb__: i've watched them all countless times 2016-08-30T03:26:11 < keep-pumpin> as you could imagine. 2016-08-30T03:26:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T03:27:22 < keep-pumpin> my favourite one is where he picks up the crt tv and yells 'is it fucken one player though' then smashes it 2016-08-30T03:27:25 < Laurenceb__> lul I did wonder 2016-08-30T03:30:09 < keep-pumpin> he has mastered the 'junkie temper tantrum at your local unemployment office' quite satisfactorily 2016-08-30T03:30:41 < aandrew> what the fuck is that shit 2016-08-30T03:31:02 < Laurenceb__> lul the comments, people still think its a real documentary series 2016-08-30T03:31:16 * keep-pumpin nods 2016-08-30T03:31:30 < Laurenceb__> aandrew: fake documentary about life in "great" britain 2016-08-30T03:32:15 < keep-pumpin> Laurenceb__: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTkfyWOurQM 2016-08-30T03:32:28 < aandrew> christ. the shit people can make money doing 2016-08-30T03:32:53 < aandrew> let's be as boorish and stupid as possible, tha'ts my only claim to fame, lookit me 2016-08-30T03:35:39 < zyp> karlp, speaking of rogowski coils, got any in particular to recommend? 2016-08-30T03:36:43 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T03:37:35 < Laurenceb__> aandrew: welcome to youtube 2016-08-30T03:39:49 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-30T03:40:51 < Laurenceb__> lul "thats fucking ruined it that has!!! he's a right fucking nerd in real life" 2016-08-30T03:43:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T04:06:53 -!- KreAture_ is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-30T04:08:35 < dongs> haha 2016-08-30T04:08:50 -!- _Getty is now known as Getty 2016-08-30T04:08:59 < dongs> some guyt on freecancer posted a job to route 6L in eagle with kintex7 and DDR3L with a $750 budget 2016-08-30T04:09:08 < dongs> yeah k 2016-08-30T04:09:27 < dongs> wait, two kintex7 2016-08-30T04:10:43 < dongs> http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/08/norway-reindeer-lightning-weather/ rip zyp 2016-08-30T04:10:44 < Laurenceb__> http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Dead_20fly-based_20printer_20toner#1240856565 2016-08-30T04:13:02 < Laurenceb__> http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Ocean-Going_20Vessel_20Demolition_20Derby#990982800 2016-08-30T04:14:29 < aandrew> oh man I forgot about halfbakery 2016-08-30T04:21:20 < keep-pumpin> I'm jonesing for some good stm32 blogs fellas 2016-08-30T04:32:21 < aandrew> hm, wtf is MDIO on STM32 2016-08-30T04:34:22 < dongs> sounds like another rename for I2C to avoid patentse 2016-08-30T04:34:35 < aandrew> no 2016-08-30T04:34:41 < aandrew> it's some management interface 2016-08-30T04:36:51 < englishman> place components on 18x24" pcb, hit autoroute, done 2016-08-30T04:37:17 < aandrew> hm 2016-08-30T04:37:25 < aandrew> might have to bump up to a larger footprint 2016-08-30T04:37:26 < keep-pumpin> englishman: dont be stealing my techniques 2016-08-30T04:37:29 < aandrew> 100 pins ain't quite enough 2016-08-30T04:37:32 < englishman> sup crt 2016-08-30T04:37:43 < keep-pumpin> just keepin the message out there, you? 2016-08-30T04:37:54 < englishman> ok 2016-08-30T04:38:19 < aandrew> there you go: https://imgur.com/a/ZZ3Hw 2016-08-30T04:47:15 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T05:05:08 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T05:23:13 < jadew> aandrew, what's the year on that thinig? 2016-08-30T05:23:43 < aandrew> can't be *that* old, there's a pIC32 on it 2016-08-30T05:28:19 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Adde Parvum Parvo Magnus Acervus Erit] 2016-08-30T05:35:35 < dongs> made with freecancer.com PCB layout tool 2016-08-30T05:39:40 < keep-pumpin> sup there 2016-08-30T05:39:55 < keep-pumpin> that's a bitchin' pcb layout 2016-08-30T05:40:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T05:42:31 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T05:48:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T06:00:13 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-30T06:03:57 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: emeb_mac] 2016-08-30T06:16:27 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T06:23:41 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T06:26:23 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Adde Parvum Parvo Magnus Acervus Erit] 2016-08-30T06:26:24 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2016-08-30T06:51:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:9c92:76c1:c48e:dba] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T06:58:01 < keep-pumpin> ReadError: do you know where I can source some neural net processors 2016-08-30T07:12:20 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T07:19:44 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-30T07:25:13 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T07:25:21 < brianx> keep-pumpin: they're in aisle 6 beside the bio neural gel packs. 2016-08-30T08:06:55 < johntramp> hi, I am wanting to have multiple lookup tables which are built at different LMA locations with the same VMA, so that at run time they can be swapped in depending on the configuration the user has selected. What is the best way to do this and avoid getting linker overlapping section errors? 2016-08-30T08:18:34 < jpa-> johntramp: what processor are you using? AFAIK none of the STM32 has MMU 2016-08-30T08:18:52 < jpa-> or are you going to be switching them in ram? 2016-08-30T08:19:36 < jpa-> i would just use the normal "struct with function pointers" approach 2016-08-30T08:19:45 < jpa-> instead of any linker tricks 2016-08-30T08:20:41 < johntramp> no mmu, just writing to different flash locations (stm32f4) 2016-08-30T08:21:12 < jpa-> how will you swap them? 2016-08-30T08:21:45 < johntramp> flash sector writes 2016-08-30T08:22:37 < johntramp> it is also complicated by needing to be field firmware updateable while running 2016-08-30T08:22:41 < jpa-> why do you want to do it that way, instead of just having a pointer to the currently active lookup table? 2016-08-30T08:23:19 < johntramp> so I have an active LUT, and am able to update the stored LUTs while still operating the rest of the system 2016-08-30T08:23:44 < jpa-> should be entirely possible with pointers, and that would also save flash writes 2016-08-30T08:24:01 < jpa-> (and avoid trouble such as power being cut in middle of table swapping) 2016-08-30T08:24:35 < jpa-> but ok, i guess it can make sense in some situations 2016-08-30T08:25:00 < johntramp> but the original question of having multiple sections with the same VMA, is that possible? 2016-08-30T08:25:05 < jpa-> do your LUTs even care about the VMA? just make them all conform to the same layout and you should be able to copy them nicely 2016-08-30T08:25:19 < jpa-> unless you have pointer values inside the LUTs 2016-08-30T08:25:48 < johntramp> the LUTs are pointers to arrays 2016-08-30T08:26:16 < jpa-> are the arrays also in the moving memory area? 2016-08-30T08:26:21 < johntramp> yes 2016-08-30T08:26:28 < jpa-> yeah, starts to sound complex :P 2016-08-30T08:27:09 < jpa-> probably doable though 2016-08-30T08:28:16 < johntramp> I have hacked a solution together by dd'ing multiple builds of the firmware but it isn't pretty and has run into other issues doing it that way 2016-08-30T08:28:57 < johntramp> I am hoping to get a more elegent linker to use the space more efficiently 2016-08-30T08:29:22 < jpa-> how about storing offsets from start of block instead of full pointers? could also save some space 2016-08-30T08:29:53 < johntramp> yeah perhaps that would look better 2016-08-30T08:30:19 < johntramp> I have to run sorry, thanks for your time 2016-08-30T08:56:10 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T09:05:07 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2601:601:8201:b9e6:9c92:76c1:c48e:dba] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-30T09:05:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T09:12:20 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T09:14:04 -!- ReadError [readerror@ec2-50-19-189-163.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T09:24:58 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T09:41:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T09:48:47 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-30T10:04:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T10:04:13 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-30T10:04:25 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-30T10:05:34 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-30T10:24:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T10:27:32 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T10:28:17 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-122-254.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T10:36:48 < Steffann> keep-pumpin: you didnt find your sanity back i see :P 2016-08-30T11:00:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-228-120.nomad.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T11:03:54 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-122-254.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-30T11:06:30 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T11:09:18 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T11:29:50 -!- keep-pumpin [7bf38b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.243.139.124] has quit [Quit: better get to keiling crt] 2016-08-30T11:32:39 -!- elektrinis-wrk [~cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T11:35:06 -!- elektrinis [cisrcuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-30T11:39:37 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-30T11:43:58 < kakimir> this channel made him what he is now? 2016-08-30T11:44:48 < kakimir> just punpin 2016-08-30T11:51:06 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T12:12:04 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T12:13:57 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T12:15:10 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-30T12:16:51 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T12:22:30 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T12:22:57 < wanderman> feeelings haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiii 2016-08-30T12:23:16 * jpa- sharks wanderman 2016-08-30T12:23:18 < wanderman> i'mmmm flying soooo haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiii 2016-08-30T12:23:42 < wanderman> :D jpa 2016-08-30T12:23:53 < wanderman> how are you 2016-08-30T12:24:41 < jpa-> hardly working 2016-08-30T12:25:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-228-120.nomad.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-30T12:25:26 < wanderman> i see, 2016-08-30T12:29:24 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T12:32:35 < karlp> zyp: sorry, went to bed. we just got some of these in, have been testing out very well. http://sparkelectronic.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008833078341/pdtl/Rogowski-coil/1127013020/rogowski-coil-current-sensor-current-transformers.htm 2016-08-30T12:32:49 < karlp> not that exact part number, but that company. 2016-08-30T12:33:54 < karlp> we were using coils from J&D (http://www.hqsensing.com/) for years, but they're more expensive and their integrator is bulkier 2016-08-30T12:34:15 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T12:34:21 < karlp> we use the integrators they provide so we can plug them into our device with CT inputs 2016-08-30T12:35:47 < zyp> hmm, what's your opinion on rogowski vs CTs? 2016-08-30T12:36:43 < zyp> I don't need those big flexible things, just something I can clip onto wires 2016-08-30T12:37:13 < zyp> metering chip I've looked at using supports both 2016-08-30T12:38:02 -!- fenugrec [~R@108.161.164.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-30T12:38:34 < karlp> rogowskis are great, but pretty shit at low ranges 2016-08-30T12:38:47 < karlp> yeah, out metering chip does too, but you have to hcange parts a bit int he front end. 2016-08-30T12:39:09 < karlp> and when we first tried ~6 years ago or so we weren't real happy with how it behaved but that was ages ago 2016-08-30T12:39:26 < zyp> which chip? 2016-08-30T12:39:28 < karlp> we sell CTs for 80/200/500 amp ranges, and rogowskis for 1000/2000/3000 amp range 2016-08-30T12:39:42 < karlp> old AnalogDevices shits, NRND 2016-08-30T12:39:49 < zyp> ah, yeah, you told me before 2016-08-30T12:39:57 < karlp> ade7758 2016-08-30T12:40:22 < karlp> we haven't looked at low range rogowskis, though I'm sure they'll turn up. 2016-08-30T12:40:47 < karlp> wiring power the integrator is still a downer compared to straight cts. 2016-08-30T12:40:58 < karlp> (which would be resolved if we did that internally of course) 2016-08-30T12:41:24 < zyp> I were going to buy a demo board for that isolated maxim stuff a few weeks ago, but then I discovered that it was also NRND 2016-08-30T12:41:35 < karlp> heh 2016-08-30T12:41:53 < zyp> so I ended up looking at other stuff, and found some atmel part that looked decent 2016-08-30T12:42:30 < zyp> only frontend change wrt. CT vs rogowski seemed to be whether you place a burden resistor or a capacitor in parallel with the input 2016-08-30T12:43:15 < zyp> sadly the demo board for that atmel chip were stupid expensive (when all I really wanted to do was to pad a digikey order to get free shipping) 2016-08-30T12:43:47 < karlp> yeah it's not a major change, but they have to be changed. 2016-08-30T12:44:03 < zyp> assembly variants are not too hard to handle 2016-08-30T12:44:28 < karlp> nah, integrator comes int he box with the rocoil anyway, just make that an installer problem ;) 2016-08-30T12:44:59 < karlp> also, if you're happy with the accuracy of one, there's no need for the other. 2016-08-30T12:45:36 < zyp> anyway, I'm not really interested in those tube things, I mainly want something I can just clip on, although that's not a major issue either 2016-08-30T12:45:49 < karlp> tube things? 2016-08-30T12:46:11 < zyp> like the ones you linked to 2016-08-30T12:46:18 < karlp> oh, that's just when it's been screwed up 2016-08-30T12:46:36 < karlp> it just has a plastic hand screw to open and then you just loop it around the line and screw it up again 2016-08-30T12:46:44 < zyp> sure 2016-08-30T12:46:56 < karlp> just like any split core ct for most purposes 2016-08-30T12:47:02 < zyp> but I don't need it to be a huge flexible thing 2016-08-30T12:47:16 < karlp> they come in different length/radius for different current ratings 2016-08-30T12:47:31 < jpa-> zyp wants something that looks like a clip-on ferrite :P 2016-08-30T12:47:32 < karlp> we've got them down to sort of ~3cm circles, and up to ~25cm circles 2016-08-30T12:48:00 < karlp> but sure, plain old cts will do the job too :) 2016-08-30T12:48:09 < karlp> and it's what we use for everything at the low end. 2016-08-30T12:48:25 < zyp> okay 2016-08-30T12:48:53 < karlp> apparently you can get them pcb mount to go around legs of fets or some shit too, but never really looked for that sort of stuff 2016-08-30T12:49:24 < karlp> rog coils are attractive because they don 2016-08-30T12:49:34 < zyp> I saw some nice-looking CTs once that was designed to be stacked next to each other in a one module interval 2016-08-30T12:49:39 < karlp> t have the "safety" bullshit of opening and closing CTs on live wires 2016-08-30T12:49:59 < karlp> yeah, we sell mini cts for use with our stuff that are one breaker width wide. 2016-08-30T12:50:13 < karlp> and few other people sell premoulded 3xCTs on a block for a three phase breaker 2016-08-30T12:50:27 < zyp> I forgot where I saw those, got any links? 2016-08-30T12:50:36 < karlp> the 3x stuff? 2016-08-30T12:50:41 < zyp> either 2016-08-30T12:50:46 < karlp> frer nano series uses them. 2016-08-30T12:51:15 < karlp> shitty picture, but the "current bar" http://www.etactica.com/etactica-hardware here 2016-08-30T12:51:31 < karlp> http://www.frer.it/fam-48319-NANO_NANOH_NANOMONO_NANODC has the multi cts 2016-08-30T12:51:35 < karlp> Ithink socomec does too 2016-08-30T12:51:52 < karlp> http://circutor.com/en/products/new-products/3856-sc3-new-split-core-efficient-transformer 2016-08-30T12:52:59 < zyp> nice 2016-08-30T12:54:03 < karlp> J&D and co probably have them too. 2016-08-30T12:54:13 < karlp> J&D are worst korea iirc, 2016-08-30T12:54:26 < karlp> they make cts for _heaps_ of bigger companies 2016-08-30T12:54:30 < karlp> despite their apalling website 2016-08-30T12:56:04 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T12:56:24 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T13:00:58 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-30T13:01:48 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T13:20:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-228-120.nomad.chalmers.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T13:38:26 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-30T13:47:04 -!- effractur [~Erik@hlm000.nl.z4p.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-30T13:48:24 -!- effractur [~Erik@hlm000.nl.z4p.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T13:55:49 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-30T14:01:35 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T14:08:56 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T14:13:11 < bartekww> Fleck: jpa-: my stm is working :D 2016-08-30T14:13:14 < bartekww> uart is working 2016-08-30T14:13:24 < jpa-> no way 2016-08-30T14:13:38 < Fleck> good 2016-08-30T14:14:22 < bartekww> but i can't get working RXNE 2016-08-30T14:14:23 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-30T14:14:34 < bartekww> Fleck: libopencm3 is cool D: 2016-08-30T14:15:20 < Fleck> can't disagree 2016-08-30T14:15:36 < bartekww> why :P? 2016-08-30T14:15:53 < Fleck> why what? 2016-08-30T14:27:22 < bartekww> why you can't disagree 2016-08-30T14:27:28 < bartekww> so you can't agree 2016-08-30T14:27:29 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-30T14:30:42 < Steffann> *can agree 2016-08-30T14:31:51 < bartekww> yup Steffann 2016-08-30T14:33:03 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T14:38:22 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T14:40:11 < Fleck> thanks Steffann :P 2016-08-30T14:40:35 < dongs> anyone fucked with ts/capsense stuff on STM 2016-08-30T14:40:45 < dongs> does it need any special shit to detect objects that arent finger' 2016-08-30T14:42:02 < Fleck> I wonder, if bartekww understand what I said 2016-08-30T14:42:26 < zyp> dongs, nah, it detects dicks just fine 2016-08-30T14:42:39 < dongs> fuck how did you know i was gonna detect dicks 2016-08-30T14:43:18 < Ultrasauce> educated guess 2016-08-30T14:45:35 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-122-254.customers.d1-online.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T14:54:57 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@1.132.96.67] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T14:55:34 < jpa-> but can it tell apart finger and dick? 2016-08-30T14:57:24 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-30T15:04:27 < Steffann> Can you with your eyes closed jpa- or should i ask tectu? 2016-08-30T15:05:09 < jpa-> come here and we'll try 2016-08-30T15:05:33 < Steffann> You parrot wont like. Better not 2016-08-30T15:07:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T15:07:39 < Steffann> Also i dont want to. 2016-08-30T15:08:28 < jpa-> if we do it capacitively it won't involve touching 2016-08-30T15:10:31 < Steffann> Lol 2016-08-30T15:11:00 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T15:11:34 < jpa-> but in fact i'm interested whether one could detect person size capacitively 2016-08-30T15:11:38 < dongs> haha 2016-08-30T15:12:37 < kakimir> dongs got the electric toy project from freecancer? 2016-08-30T15:12:46 < kakimir> *high power* 2016-08-30T15:13:36 -!- anton02_ [~quassel@1.132.96.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-30T15:15:44 < kakimir> toy for adults 2016-08-30T15:16:37 < bartekww> how to use nvic on usart1 rxne? 2016-08-30T15:18:50 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T15:21:06 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T15:34:46 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T15:42:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T15:46:02 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T15:53:48 < stvn> i await the return of tectu 2016-08-30T15:54:05 < jpa-> who doesn't 2016-08-30T15:57:08 < kakimir> who is Tectu 2016-08-30T15:57:12 < kakimir> . 2016-08-30T16:00:46 < Steffann> Not me. 2016-08-30T16:04:09 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-30T16:12:58 < bartekww> can anyone help me with libopencm3? 2016-08-30T16:13:10 < bartekww> if i send string using blocking send 2016-08-30T16:13:24 < bartekww> i receive it 2016-08-30T16:13:42 < bartekww> if i send text using usart_send i receive random shit 2016-08-30T16:17:06 < bartekww> or just not receive anything if i use gdb 2016-08-30T16:17:22 < bartekww> because it enters into blocking_handler function 2016-08-30T16:17:25 < bartekww> infinite loop 2016-08-30T16:31:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T16:34:49 < karlp> bartekww: if you don't use blocking send, you need to handle not sending until TXE yourself. 2016-08-30T16:35:19 < karlp> ST has some good app notes on using an irq to handle draining out a tx buffer on irqs or via dma. 2016-08-30T16:35:33 < karlp> not sure what you're doing with blocking handlers though, that sounds like something else is wrong 2016-08-30T16:39:02 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/M9LNQkTXUyI 2016-08-30T16:40:06 < bartekww> karlp: libopencm3 2016-08-30T16:43:35 < bartekww> karlp: i don't know how to do it 2016-08-30T16:43:40 < bartekww> i want to make CLI 2016-08-30T16:43:44 < bartekww> on stm32 2016-08-30T16:43:56 < bartekww> but it doesn't work? 2016-08-30T16:43:57 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-5eea2660-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T16:48:34 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@c-5eea2660-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-30T16:48:46 -!- Palsson_ [~Palsson@94.136.92.240] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T16:51:25 < dongs> http://www.altium.com/products/extensions/simulation/pdn-analyzer/overview this is pretty damn useful 2016-08-30T16:51:44 < dongs> where's R2COM to complain about cuckcad not having this 2016-08-30T16:52:43 < aandrew> dongs: I have heard more about PDN in the last two weeks than I have ever before 2016-08-30T16:52:52 < dongs> hah 2016-08-30T16:53:03 < dongs> why's that 2016-08-30T16:53:13 < aandrew> probably because someone cracked latest altium and got PDN too 2016-08-30T16:53:14 < dongs> i need it to analyze stuff on this dildo pcb 2016-08-30T16:53:17 < dongs> err 2016-08-30T16:53:18 < stvn> cool 2016-08-30T16:53:20 < dongs> i cracked nothing 2016-08-30T16:53:37 < dongs> last i checked, pir8 version of that shit doesnt even work 2016-08-30T16:53:46 < dongs> my pal was raging about it asking me to help 2016-08-30T16:53:51 < aandrew> well you're wealthy living in a rice hut charging millions for freecancer people 2016-08-30T16:54:55 < dongs> that is true 2016-08-30T16:55:09 < dongs> im about to assemble like 3rd batch of freecancer proj, around $30k this time 2016-08-30T16:55:20 < aandrew> for reals? 2016-08-30T16:55:22 < dongs> ya 2016-08-30T16:55:24 < aandrew> damn man that's awesome 2016-08-30T16:55:34 < aandrew> I'm a little jealous of your success tbh but good on you 2016-08-30T16:55:42 < dongs> and they say they're gonna keep reordering same shit like every other month 2016-08-30T16:55:47 < dongs> (and they've been so far, just smaller batches) 2016-08-30T16:55:58 < karlp> bartekww: https://github.com/ChuckM/stm32f469i/tree/master/demos/console (the uart stuff is the same for your board too) 2016-08-30T16:56:31 < dongs> anyway waht did you hear about pdn. i just got it for dildo current measurements. 2016-08-30T16:57:22 < dongs> bedtime, gotta drive all day tomrorow to dumb client shit 2016-08-30T16:57:22 < dongs> bbl 2016-08-30T16:58:29 < bartekww> karlp: wth? console_setup? 2016-08-30T17:01:19 < bartekww> karlp: why there isn't any normal code 2016-08-30T17:01:51 < stvn> i wonder wtf a dildo pcb is 2016-08-30T17:01:56 < aandrew> have any of you used DMA with timer or PWM to drive WS2812 type LEDs? 2016-08-30T17:02:22 < aandrew> is there a more efficent way to feed it than wasting a full byte for each bit you want to transmit to WS2812? 2016-08-30T17:03:03 < Sync> iirc not 2016-08-30T17:04:26 < bartekww> anyone can help me? 2016-08-30T17:07:41 < bartekww> with that code 2016-08-30T17:07:43 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/fWhL8v9z 2016-08-30T17:08:02 < bartekww> i only get initialization complete string 2016-08-30T17:08:05 < bartekww> nothing more 2016-08-30T17:08:09 < bartekww> when i press any key 2016-08-30T17:08:47 < aandrew> heh ANSI codes. It's been years 2016-08-30T17:09:09 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-30T17:09:30 < aandrew> bartekww: what specifically is the issue? 2016-08-30T17:11:20 < bartekww> i'm writing cli for now 2016-08-30T17:11:29 < bartekww> and it doesn't work 2016-08-30T17:11:33 < bartekww> if i press key 2016-08-30T17:11:39 < bartekww> type anything 2016-08-30T17:11:42 < bartekww> press enter 2016-08-30T17:11:55 < bartekww> it should give me an error 2016-08-30T17:11:58 < bartekww> or something 2016-08-30T17:12:06 < bartekww> but it's not working 2016-08-30T17:14:22 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@124-171-121-71.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T17:15:01 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T17:15:29 < bartekww> aandrew: and what's wrong? 2016-08-30T17:19:44 < aandrew> bartekww: what have you tried to debug it? 2016-08-30T17:20:12 -!- tecdroid [~icke@tmo-122-254.customers.d1-online.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T17:20:42 < bartekww> yup, using gdb 2016-08-30T17:21:08 < aandrew> I don't mean what tools 2016-08-30T17:21:44 < aandrew> have you verified that the ISR fires when you press a key? have you verified that _read() receives the character? have you verified that the main loop is doing what it should? 2016-08-30T17:22:40 < bartekww> i just init usart 2016-08-30T17:22:45 < bartekww> and for(;;) 2016-08-30T17:22:58 < bartekww> how to check that isr fires? 2016-08-30T17:23:07 < aandrew> turn on an LED 2016-08-30T17:23:22 < aandrew> since it's an ISR you gotta be pretty low level 2016-08-30T17:23:38 < aandrew> there are fancier ways but that's super easy to do and with zero impact 2016-08-30T17:24:08 < aandrew> one of the very first things I ever do when I start writing code is to get an LED blinking every 100ms in the main loop 2016-08-30T17:24:13 < aandrew> if the LED stops you know the code has hung 2016-08-30T17:24:20 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T17:24:57 -!- PeterM [~PeterM@121-200-15-11.NBN.albury.aussiebb.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T17:26:19 -!- Palsson_ [~Palsson@94.136.92.240] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-30T17:28:07 < bartekww> aandrew: led is blinking while im typing 2016-08-30T17:28:37 < aandrew> blinking? are you toggling it? 2016-08-30T17:28:58 < aandrew> whoa I just realized what you're doing 2016-08-30T17:28:58 < aandrew> dude 2016-08-30T17:29:04 < aandrew> you don't call cmd_parser from an ISR 2016-08-30T17:29:07 < aandrew> bad bad bad bad 2016-08-30T17:29:11 < Laurenceb> the illuminati? 2016-08-30T17:29:36 < aandrew> ISRs need to do the absolute minimum to resolve the cause of the interrupt. 2016-08-30T17:30:02 < aandrew> essentially your ISR should be reading the data into a buffer and that is it 2016-08-30T17:30:26 < aandrew> your main loop (or a function off the main loop) should be looking at the buffer and trying to make sense of it 2016-08-30T17:30:41 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T17:30:48 < aandrew> also, any variable that an ISR might touch should be declared volatile 2016-08-30T17:31:25 < aandrew> ideally your ISR should be reading data into a FIFO. main loop should be checking if the FIFO is empty and tryign to process it if not 2016-08-30T17:33:12 < bartekww> aandrew: so how i should do it 2016-08-30T17:33:21 < aandrew> read above 2016-08-30T17:33:29 < bartekww> i read it 2016-08-30T17:33:35 < bartekww> but still don't know how to do that 2016-08-30T17:34:00 < aandrew> well you're not far off right now 2016-08-30T17:34:25 < bartekww> have you got any examples/ 2016-08-30T17:34:30 < aandrew> no, but I'll help you right now 2016-08-30T17:34:38 < bartekww> okay :D 2016-08-30T17:35:04 < aandrew> declare usart_buf as volatile since the iSR will be accessing it and you need to let the compiler know that it can't optimize accessess to the buffer 2016-08-30T17:35:11 < Sync> oh wow, the jbc desoldering station is seksi 2016-08-30T17:35:11 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T17:35:20 < aandrew> volatile char usart_buf[MAX_BUFLEN_USART] 2016-08-30T17:35:35 < aandrew> add an index as well 2016-08-30T17:35:43 < aandrew> volatile char usart_ptr; 2016-08-30T17:36:26 < bartekww> as global var? 2016-08-30T17:36:36 < aandrew> so now your ISR code is very simple: read in characters from the hardware and write them to usart_buf[usart_ptr++] 2016-08-30T17:36:59 < aandrew> you may want to make sure usart_ptr doesn't hit MAX_BUFLEN_USART or you might be in for a fun time 2016-08-30T17:37:39 < aandrew> so something like usart_buf[usart_ptr] = ch_from_uart; 2016-08-30T17:38:01 < bartekww> emm 2016-08-30T17:38:02 < aandrew> if (usart_ptr < MAX_BUFLEN_USART - 1) ++usart_ptr; 2016-08-30T17:38:09 < aandrew> that's it. that's your ISR 2016-08-30T17:38:24 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-30T17:38:32 < aandrew> all it's doing is servicing the hardware 2016-08-30T17:38:33 < bartekww> so, now all should work okay? 2016-08-30T17:38:37 < aandrew> no 2016-08-30T17:38:57 < aandrew> now your main loop needs to do something like this 2016-08-30T17:41:38 < aandrew> if (usart_ptr && usart_buf[usart_ptr] == '\n') { char working_buf[MAX_BUFLEN_USART]; memcpy(working_buf, usart_buf, usart_ptr); bzero(usart_buf, usart_ptr); usart_ptr = 0; parse_shit(working_buf); } 2016-08-30T17:41:47 < aandrew> it's not perfect, but it'll work 2016-08-30T17:42:40 < aandrew> basically what your'e doing is this: if you detect a \n you will copy the interrupt buffer to a working buffer (so you can still receive characters while parsing), zero everything out to the receive subsystem is re-initialized, and go parse what you did receive 2016-08-30T17:43:11 < bartekww> so how should look my interrupt 2016-08-30T17:43:12 < aandrew> there is a small race condition there but you don't need to worry about that for now, just understand that it is possible to have some corrupt data if you type like a madman after pressing enter 2016-08-30T17:43:17 < bartekww> i only have changed one line 2016-08-30T17:43:21 < aandrew> hm? 2016-08-30T17:43:22 < aandrew> no 2016-08-30T17:43:42 < aandrew> your interrupt only does the minimum to receive a character into the buffer. it does not check for \n, it does not call any other code... 2016-08-30T17:43:54 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-30T17:44:33 < bartekww> so how should look my interrupt function 2016-08-30T17:45:26 < aandrew> take a look at what I wrote above and give it a shot. pastebin what you come up with 2016-08-30T17:45:31 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T17:45:44 < bartekww> ah okay 2016-08-30T17:46:01 < bartekww> but with only one line 2016-08-30T17:46:07 < aandrew> the most important thing is to try to clearly understand what you want the ISR to do and write it accordingly 2016-08-30T17:46:10 < aandrew> it won't be only one line 2016-08-30T17:46:13 < bartekww> i don't read the usart, yup? 2016-08-30T17:46:22 < aandrew> your ISR will be maybe 5 lines or so 2016-08-30T17:46:40 < aandrew> all your ISR needs to do is do enough hardware control to clear the interrupt condition 2016-08-30T17:47:08 < bartekww> ohmygod 2016-08-30T17:47:09 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T17:47:14 < bartekww> don't get it 2016-08-30T17:47:38 < bartekww> now i have usart recv 2016-08-30T17:47:53 < bartekww> and if (usart_ptr < MAX_BUFLEN_USART - 1) ++usart_ptr; 2016-08-30T17:47:58 < aandrew> no 2016-08-30T17:48:01 < aandrew> look at your old ISR 2016-08-30T17:48:03 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T17:48:13 < aandrew> you were making sure that the interrupt was for a rx character 2016-08-30T17:48:19 < aandrew> and if it was, you received the character into a buffer 2016-08-30T17:48:26 < aandrew> then you cleared the flag 2016-08-30T17:48:41 < aandrew> you also went on to try to detect a newline and do special things (parse the string) if found 2016-08-30T17:48:55 < aandrew> given what I said an ISR should do, what do you think the new ISR should look like? 2016-08-30T17:49:10 < qyx> ++usartptr; wot 2016-08-30T17:49:49 < qyx> is still the story about ++i being more efficient than i++ valid? 2016-08-30T17:50:10 < aandrew> doubt it 2016-08-30T17:50:35 < aandrew> you'd have to look at the specific compiler and arch to make sure but I use them interchangably when pre/post inc don't matter 2016-08-30T17:54:54 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T17:59:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@dhcp-228-120.nomad.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-30T18:00:42 < bartekww> aandrew, wait :D 2016-08-30T18:01:41 < bartekww> i don't know how to write it :\ 2016-08-30T18:01:44 < bartekww> isr 2016-08-30T18:07:19 < bartekww> aandrew: okay, got it 2016-08-30T18:07:23 < bartekww> but it isn't working 2016-08-30T18:11:23 -!- wander___ [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T18:11:46 < jadew> qyx, a good compiler should optimize it out 2016-08-30T18:12:11 < jadew> but nevertheless, i++ is a bit wrong, if all you want to do is increment i 2016-08-30T18:12:23 < jadew> it's expressing more than it should 2016-08-30T18:13:45 < aandrew> bartekww: pastebin 2016-08-30T18:14:09 < bartekww> okay, and also i don't have got bzero function 2016-08-30T18:14:15 < bartekww> even including strings.h 2016-08-30T18:14:15 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-30T18:14:54 < aandrew> that's fine 2016-08-30T18:14:56 < aandrew> what does bzero do? 2016-08-30T18:15:37 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/tFvL1t0n 2016-08-30T18:15:43 < bartekww> in your code there's bzero 2016-08-30T18:15:49 < aandrew> I know 2016-08-30T18:15:52 < aandrew> I'm asking you what the function does 2016-08-30T18:16:20 < bartekww> same as memcpy(var,sizeof(var), 0) 2016-08-30T18:16:24 < aandrew> correct 2016-08-30T18:16:32 < aandrew> well no not quite 2016-08-30T18:16:35 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T18:16:41 < bartekww> 0, sizeof(var) 2016-08-30T18:16:51 < bartekww> dest src size 2016-08-30T18:16:52 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-30T18:16:53 < aandrew> memset(var,0,len) 2016-08-30T18:17:20 < aandrew> not memcpy and not sizeof() 2016-08-30T18:17:24 < aandrew> so feel free to substitute 2016-08-30T18:17:56 < aandrew> also, why are you still checking for \n in your ISR? 2016-08-30T18:18:12 < aandrew> the ISR does no processing of the data, it simply gets it from the hardware and puts it somewhere as quickly as possible 2016-08-30T18:18:57 < aandrew> try to understand what you want the code to do, then write the code to execute your plan 2016-08-30T18:19:27 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-30T18:19:34 < bartekww> so i have written it okay? 2016-08-30T18:19:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T18:20:07 < aandrew> no 2016-08-30T18:20:19 < bartekww> can you correct my mistakes? 2016-08-30T18:20:19 < aandrew> read the ISR code and tell me in english what it is doing 2016-08-30T18:20:25 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T18:20:34 < aandrew> I can, but I prefer to help you understand it so you can correct your own mistake 2016-08-30T18:20:48 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-30T18:20:52 < bartekww> reads usart char 2016-08-30T18:20:59 < aandrew> I'm not trying ot be an asshole, I am trying to help you learn by asking questions and guiding rather than just spitting out the answer 2016-08-30T18:21:06 < bartekww> check if isnt \n 2016-08-30T18:21:11 < bartekww> if not 2016-08-30T18:22:04 < bartekww> sets usart_buf row usart_ptr to c and postincrement usart_ptr 2016-08-30T18:22:16 < bartekww> sorry for my english :P I'm not native 2016-08-30T18:22:49 < aandrew> you're doing fine, I understand you perfectly 2016-08-30T18:22:49 < bartekww> if recv char is = \n 2016-08-30T18:23:02 < aandrew> besides I am positive that you speak english better than I speak your natural language :-) 2016-08-30T18:23:40 < bartekww> if usart_ptr is smaller than max buf size - \0 it postincrement usart_ptr 2016-08-30T18:23:48 < aandrew> right 2016-08-30T18:23:55 < aandrew> so what you have described to me 2016-08-30T18:24:03 < aandrew> is that what you want the ISR to do? 2016-08-30T18:24:42 < bartekww> hm 2016-08-30T18:24:46 < aandrew> "read character from hardware. if it is not \n, store it and increment the pointer. otherwise, increment the pointer if we aren't at the maximum size 2016-08-30T18:24:53 < aandrew> does that sound the same as 2016-08-30T18:24:56 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T18:25:08 < aandrew> "read character from hardware. store it and increment the pointer only if we aren't at the maximum" ? 2016-08-30T18:25:31 < bartekww> which is correct 2016-08-30T18:25:33 < bartekww> 1st or 2nd 2016-08-30T18:25:41 < bartekww> ? 2016-08-30T18:25:49 < aandrew> given our earlier discussion, should you be doing any processing of the data in the ISR? 2016-08-30T18:25:54 < bartekww> nope 2016-08-30T18:26:17 < bartekww> which is the processing in your mean? 2016-08-30T18:26:36 < aandrew> The role of an ISR is to do the minumum amount of work in order to resolve the cause of the interrupt. In this case, it means getting data out of the hardware and nothing more 2016-08-30T18:26:45 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-30T18:26:56 < bartekww> i still don't know what i'm doing wrong 2016-08-30T18:27:20 < aandrew> processing in this case means checking for end of line, converting to uppercase, ROT13, whatever... we don't want to do any of that in the ISR becasue none of that is necessary to resolve the reason for the interrupt :-) 2016-08-30T18:27:33 < aandrew> you should try to write the ISR to satisfy the logic described below: 2016-08-30T18:27:56 < aandrew> "read character from hardware. store it in the buffer and then only increment the pointer if we aren't at the maximum buffer length" 2016-08-30T18:29:48 < bartekww> char c = usart_recv(USART1); 2016-08-30T18:29:48 < bartekww> 162 usart_buf[usart_ptr] = c; 2016-08-30T18:29:48 < bartekww> 163 if (usart_ptr < MAX_BUFLEN_USART - 1) 2016-08-30T18:29:49 < bartekww> 164 usart_ptr++; 2016-08-30T18:30:09 < aandrew> perfect 2016-08-30T18:30:28 < aandrew> now your ISR will read characters fromthe hardware and safely store them in a buffer 2016-08-30T18:30:31 < aandrew> and that's all it does 2016-08-30T18:30:44 < aandrew> now let's look at your main loop. 2016-08-30T18:30:53 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T18:32:05 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/p5iSrBSj 2016-08-30T18:32:08 < bartekww> aandrew: ^ 2016-08-30T18:33:00 < aandrew> the warnings should be fine (the EXPTR one is weird, what kind of hardware is this?) 2016-08-30T18:33:18 < bartekww> stm32f103c8t6 2016-08-30T18:33:18 < aandrew> there is a bug in the if statement in the main code 2016-08-30T18:33:25 < bartekww> where 2016-08-30T18:33:27 < aandrew> again, we need to think about hte problem 2016-08-30T18:33:51 < aandrew> the ISR always sets usart_ptr to the location where it will write next 2016-08-30T18:33:58 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T18:34:06 < bartekww> but you gave me that code :D 2016-08-30T18:34:08 < aandrew> right? (it writes the char to usart_ptr and then increments that pointer 2016-08-30T18:34:20 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T18:34:23 < bartekww> -1? 2016-08-30T18:34:31 < aandrew> so that main loop code is always checking the location where the ISR will write next, not what it has last written 2016-08-30T18:34:34 < aandrew> correct 2016-08-30T18:34:37 < aandrew> I might have written it wrong to you, sorry 2016-08-30T18:34:52 < aandrew> I knew what I wanted to write because I first check if usart_ptr is nonzero :-) 2016-08-30T18:35:03 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-30T18:35:25 < bartekww> still not working 2016-08-30T18:36:50 < aandrew> hm, ok, well let's change usart_ptr to an integer; it should not make any differnce but will help the compiler warnings go away 2016-08-30T18:36:58 < aandrew> do a clean build and pastebin the result 2016-08-30T18:37:03 < bartekww> just int? 2016-08-30T18:37:11 < aandrew> yeah 2016-08-30T18:37:13 < aandrew> volatile int 2016-08-30T18:38:54 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T18:38:56 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2016-08-30T18:39:10 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/3eG17tJp 2016-08-30T18:39:40 < bartekww> aandrew: ^ 2016-08-30T18:42:54 < bartekww> still nothing 2016-08-30T18:42:55 -!- wander___ [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-30T18:43:56 < aandrew> ok. well this time let's look at using gdb 2016-08-30T18:44:00 < bartekww> ok 2016-08-30T18:44:02 < aandrew> let's break in the mainloop, say on the memcpy 2016-08-30T18:44:13 < aandrew> let me know if it breaks 2016-08-30T18:44:24 < aandrew> if it does, print usart_buf and usart_ptr 2016-08-30T18:44:35 < bartekww> where i should add breakpoints 2016-08-30T18:44:39 < bartekww> or not add 2016-08-30T18:44:44 < aandrew> usart_buf[0] should have the character you typed and usart_ptr should be 1 2016-08-30T18:44:52 < aandrew> only one breakpoint, on the memcpy 2016-08-30T18:46:11 < bartekww> okay, i type test in my term 2016-08-30T18:46:20 < aandrew> you will only see 't' :-) 2016-08-30T18:46:38 < bartekww> i recv test\r 2016-08-30T18:46:44 < bartekww> why not \n? 2016-08-30T18:47:40 < aandrew> ? 2016-08-30T18:47:56 < aandrew> oh' 2016-08-30T18:47:57 < aandrew> I'm stupid 2016-08-30T18:47:58 < aandrew> nevermind 2016-08-30T18:48:00 < karlp> bartekww: the console demo I posed you to had the rest of the console support in a nice clean console module int eh same repo... 2016-08-30T18:48:02 < aandrew> ok, so it did see everything 2016-08-30T18:48:05 < bartekww> (gdb) print usart_buf 2016-08-30T18:48:05 < bartekww> $3 = "test\r", '\000' 2016-08-30T18:48:07 < karlp> you just had to look at the rest of the code. 2016-08-30T18:48:11 < aandrew> ok, that is perfect 2016-08-30T18:48:14 < aandrew> so the buffer is correct 2016-08-30T18:48:22 < aandrew> now step through until your parser 2016-08-30T18:48:26 < aandrew> the error appears to be in your parser 2016-08-30T18:48:41 < aandrew> karlp: some people gotta do it the hard way :-) 2016-08-30T18:48:42 < bartekww> error is in sending to usart probably :P 2016-08-30T18:50:12 < aandrew> that is also possible 2016-08-30T18:50:20 < aandrew> but you have now verified your ISR and mainloop are working correctly 2016-08-30T18:50:29 < bartekww> i have to go 2016-08-30T18:50:36 < bartekww> i'll be back in few hours 2016-08-30T18:52:29 < karlp> aandrew: yeah, well, the reply was "why can't there just be code?!" 2016-08-30T18:52:30 < karlp> bleh 2016-08-30T19:08:17 < aandrew> karlp: :-) 2016-08-30T19:17:03 < aandrew> I may have steered him on to a better path (learning instead of just copy/paste) 2016-08-30T19:17:06 < aandrew> time will tell 2016-08-30T19:17:20 < aandrew> he certainly has the correct attitude toward it, most people that come in here would have left in a huff :-) 2016-08-30T19:17:31 < Rob235> you have a ton of patience 2016-08-30T19:18:43 < aandrew> if someone is willing to learn I am a zen master. I have *zero* patience for people who refuse to think 2016-08-30T19:21:13 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T19:26:26 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T19:27:09 < karlp> I guess they did, I was a little put off earlier, btu I guess they did certainly improve, and made progress based on feedback. 2016-08-30T19:34:07 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.58] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T19:34:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T19:34:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T19:39:18 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T19:39:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T19:55:10 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-30T19:56:32 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-30T19:57:37 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774e6a.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T20:24:22 -!- KreAture_Zzz is now known as KreAture_ 2016-08-30T20:31:17 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.186] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T20:35:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 2016-08-30T20:37:55 -!- Theremin [~amir@chello085216129094.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T20:43:46 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T20:52:41 < Rob235> hmmm 2016-08-30T20:54:29 < bartekww> aandrew: i'm back 2016-08-30T20:54:35 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-30T20:55:22 < bartekww> you're here? 2016-08-30T20:55:44 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T20:58:17 < aandrew> ten min 2016-08-30T20:59:22 < bartekww> ok 2016-08-30T21:01:02 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2016-08-30T21:02:26 < aandrew> ok I'm back 2016-08-30T21:03:07 < bartekww> ok 2016-08-30T21:03:09 < bartekww> hm 2016-08-30T21:03:12 < bartekww> so 2016-08-30T21:03:14 < aandrew> so, what have you learned? 2016-08-30T21:03:21 < bartekww> when 2016-08-30T21:03:39 < aandrew> since we spoke last 2016-08-30T21:03:45 < bartekww> don't process data in isr 2016-08-30T21:03:51 < aandrew> no no 2016-08-30T21:03:58 < aandrew> I mean about the continued debug effort 2016-08-30T21:04:28 < aandrew> I mean we have verified that the ISR is doing its job, and the main loop correctly identifies when a command has been entered. Have you verified that writing to the serial port works? 2016-08-30T21:05:34 < bartekww> it works at the beginning 2016-08-30T21:05:43 < bartekww> i print out line 2016-08-30T21:05:46 < aandrew> ok, there is theoretically no reason why it wouldn't still work then 2016-08-30T21:06:08 < bartekww> usart_write_blocking 2016-08-30T21:06:11 < aandrew> so in your command processor have you tried printing "got here" or "past line 123" or whatever to see where the breakdown occurs? 2016-08-30T21:06:18 < bartekww> or sth like that 2016-08-30T21:07:13 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T21:07:17 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:07:34 < bartekww> $5 = "hhelp\rhelp\r", '\000' 2016-08-30T21:07:41 < bartekww> why \r 2016-08-30T21:07:43 < bartekww> not \n 2016-08-30T21:07:59 < bartekww> i use screen 2016-08-30T21:08:33 < aandrew> or even before you try to parse it, in the main loop if you detect a newline try changing the code to ensure usart_buf[usart_ptr] is 0x00 and then strcpy and printf("received %s", working_buf); ? 2016-08-30T21:08:42 < aandrew> oh 2016-08-30T21:09:11 < aandrew> that is probably because your serial client is sending \r in addition to \n 2016-08-30T21:09:24 < aandrew> most processors will strip out the \rs 2016-08-30T21:09:30 < aandrew> you can do that in the ISR if you want, it's quick 2016-08-30T21:09:42 < bartekww> what do? 2016-08-30T21:09:44 < aandrew> read the char from the UART, if it is not \r, copy it and increment if possible 2016-08-30T21:09:50 < aandrew> then they never make it into tbe buffer 2016-08-30T21:10:03 < bartekww> so replace \n into \r 2016-08-30T21:10:09 < bartekww> *to 2016-08-30T21:10:38 < aandrew> well, if the breakpoint is being hit it means it saw \n, so don't change \r to \n or instead of seeing \r\n you'll see \n\n 2016-08-30T21:10:57 < bartekww> breakpoint is not being hit 2016-08-30T21:10:58 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T21:11:06 < bartekww> i have to set 2016-08-30T21:11:08 < aandrew> just if (c != '\r') { usart_buf[usart_ptr] = c; if (usart_ptr < MAX - 1) ++usart_ptr } } 2016-08-30T21:11:12 < aandrew> oh 2016-08-30T21:11:13 < aandrew> I thought it was? 2016-08-30T21:13:54 < bartekww> yyyh 2016-08-30T21:14:02 < bartekww> my line looks kinda different 2016-08-30T21:15:00 < aandrew> well again you need to analyze the problem 2016-08-30T21:15:11 < aandrew> I thought before you left earlier you said you *did* hit the breakpoint 2016-08-30T21:15:26 < aandrew> however now given your dump ($5 = "hhelp\rhelp\r") it seems to not be the case 2016-08-30T21:15:39 < aandrew> it seems like your term program is emitting \r (carriage return) when you hit enter which makes sense 2016-08-30T21:15:44 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T21:15:46 < aandrew> so instead of looking for \n you should perhaps look for \r 2016-08-30T21:15:52 < aandrew> instead of filtering anything 2016-08-30T21:16:46 < bartekww> still nothing 2016-08-30T21:17:32 < aandrew> that isn't helpful. try to figure out why 2016-08-30T21:17:34 < aandrew> what is happenning 2016-08-30T21:17:41 < aandrew> are you hitting the breakpoint now? 2016-08-30T21:17:48 < bartekww> wait, reset 2016-08-30T21:17:50 < aandrew> that's the first step 2016-08-30T21:18:50 < bartekww> i know :P 2016-08-30T21:19:36 < bartekww> nope, breakpoint not hit 2016-08-30T21:20:08 < aandrew> what does your ISR and mainloop code look like 2016-08-30T21:21:49 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/q7Nmwcui 2016-08-30T21:21:57 < bartekww> isr and mainloop below 2016-08-30T21:22:56 < aandrew> and you don't hit a breakpoint on the memcpy? 2016-08-30T21:23:43 < bartekww> on first memcpy? 2016-08-30T21:23:52 < aandrew> there is only one memcpy 2016-08-30T21:24:01 < bartekww> a okay 2016-08-30T21:24:02 < bartekww> yes 2016-08-30T21:24:04 < bartekww> on that 2016-08-30T21:24:06 < bartekww> no hit 2016-08-30T21:24:30 < aandrew> if you reset, type "test" and break the debugger, what does usart_buf look like? 2016-08-30T21:25:53 < bartekww> (gdb) print usart_buf 2016-08-30T21:25:53 < bartekww> $1 = "test\r", '\000' 2016-08-30T21:25:53 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-30T21:26:31 < aandrew> print usart_ptr 2016-08-30T21:26:48 < bartekww> (gdb) print usart_ptr 2016-08-30T21:26:48 < bartekww> $2 = 5 2016-08-30T21:26:48 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-30T21:26:56 < aandrew> print usart_buf[usart_ptr] 2016-08-30T21:27:00 < aandrew> er 2016-08-30T21:27:03 < aandrew> print usart_buf[usart_ptr - 1] 2016-08-30T21:27:12 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:27:39 < bartekww> (gdb) print usart_buf[usart_ptr - 1] 2016-08-30T21:27:39 < bartekww> $3 = 13 '\r' 2016-08-30T21:27:39 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-30T21:27:48 < owl-v-> wow soic8 arm cortex m0 --> http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cypress-Semiconductor/CY8C4013SXI-400/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuoKKEcg8mMKIhFBj6ODnhHr4B2LmGnsEZzxmuc%2fT2Ipg%3d%3d 2016-08-30T21:27:48 < aandrew> ok, that is exactly what I would expect 2016-08-30T21:27:54 < aandrew> why does that not hit? 2016-08-30T21:28:07 < bartekww> b usart.c: 172 2016-08-30T21:28:09 < aandrew> just for fun, make sure you compile with -O0 -g 2016-08-30T21:28:12 < bartekww> yup? 2016-08-30T21:28:43 < aandrew> haha it's an 8 pin PSOC 2016-08-30T21:28:49 < aandrew> so it's got the UDB structre haha 2016-08-30T21:30:41 < bartekww> aandrew: so what next :P 2016-08-30T21:30:55 < aandrew> did you clean the project and rebuild with -O0? 2016-08-30T21:32:31 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T21:32:51 < kakimir> new cheapest mcu? 2016-08-30T21:32:54 < kakimir> arm 2016-08-30T21:34:32 < bartekww> not hit aandrew 2016-08-30T21:34:51 < bartekww> (gdb) print usart_buf[usart_ptr - 1] 2016-08-30T21:34:51 < bartekww> $3 = 13 '\r' 2016-08-30T21:34:51 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-30T21:34:55 < bartekww> not that 2016-08-30T21:35:02 < bartekww> (gdb) print usart_buf 2016-08-30T21:35:02 < bartekww> $1 = "test\rtest\r", '\000' 2016-08-30T21:35:02 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-30T21:35:04 < bartekww> that 2016-08-30T21:40:07 < bartekww> aandrew: ? 2016-08-30T21:40:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:40:53 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.122] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:41:44 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:41:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-30T21:42:56 < aandrew> right, it will keep concatenating because it's not detecting the \r 2016-08-30T21:42:59 < aandrew> ok 2016-08-30T21:43:01 < aandrew> let's try something else 2016-08-30T21:43:04 < aandrew> main loop 2016-08-30T21:43:13 < aandrew> if (usart_ptr) { 2016-08-30T21:43:21 < aandrew> printf(usart_ptr now %d\n", usart_ptr); 2016-08-30T21:43:25 -!- grummund [~user@unaffiliated/grummund] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:43:36 < aandrew> if(usart_buf[usart_ptr - 1] == '\r') { 2016-08-30T21:43:41 < aandrew> (everything else the same) 2016-08-30T21:43:48 < aandrew> you should get printf data every time a char is hit 2016-08-30T21:46:21 < bartekww> still no hi 2016-08-30T21:46:21 < bartekww> t 2016-08-30T21:46:33 < aandrew> you should have printf output though 2016-08-30T21:46:38 < aandrew> after every char 2016-08-30T21:47:58 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-30T21:48:01 < bartekww> i get what i type 2016-08-30T21:48:02 < bartekww> but 2016-08-30T21:48:08 < bartekww> if i spam a key 2016-08-30T21:48:11 < bartekww> it's slow 2016-08-30T21:48:15 < bartekww> and if i spam 2 keys 2016-08-30T21:48:18 < bartekww> like 2016-08-30T21:48:23 < bartekww> yuyuyuyuy 2016-08-30T21:48:25 < aandrew> yes it will be 2016-08-30T21:48:28 < aandrew> because of the way you print 2016-08-30T21:48:30 < aandrew> but that's fine 2016-08-30T21:48:31 < bartekww> i get only y 2016-08-30T21:48:33 < aandrew> so what output do you get 2016-08-30T21:49:33 < bartekww> (gdb) b usart.c:172 2016-08-30T21:49:33 < bartekww> Breakpoint 1 at 0x80005fe: file src/usart.c, line 172. 2016-08-30T21:49:33 < bartekww> (gdb) c 2016-08-30T21:49:33 < bartekww> Continuing. 2016-08-30T21:49:34 < bartekww> Note: automatically using hardware breakpoints for read-only addresses. 2016-08-30T21:49:36 < bartekww> Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. 2016-08-30T21:49:38 < bartekww> blocking_handler () at ../../cm3/vector.c:104 2016-08-30T21:49:44 < bartekww> using uart write blocking 2016-08-30T21:49:46 < aandrew> no no 2016-08-30T21:49:50 < aandrew> don't use any breakpoints right now 2016-08-30T21:49:56 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-30T21:50:00 < aandrew> your main loop should be printing something after every character is typed 2016-08-30T21:50:02 < aandrew> what is it printing 2016-08-30T21:50:07 < bartekww> but my program go to infinite loop 2016-08-30T21:50:14 < bartekww> blocking_handler 2016-08-30T21:50:33 < aandrew> are you getting output from the main loop on the serial port? 2016-08-30T21:50:50 < bartekww> ? 2016-08-30T21:50:57 < aandrew> pastebin your main loop please 2016-08-30T21:51:28 -!- Sync [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:51:29 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:51:29 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:51:29 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:51:30 < bartekww> main loop is while(1) {process_usart(()} 2016-08-30T21:51:34 < bartekww> ()} 2016-08-30T21:52:02 < aandrew> ok 2016-08-30T21:52:05 -!- Steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:52:06 -!- mervaka [~mervaka@mervaka.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:52:06 -!- jonsowman [~jon@kryten.hexoc.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:52:08 < aandrew> and pastebin your process_usart() please 2016-08-30T21:52:15 -!- Steffanx [~quassel@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:52:15 -!- Steffanx [~quassel@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-30T21:52:15 -!- Steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:52:16 < bartekww> i pasted it 2016-08-30T21:52:19 < bartekww> before 2016-08-30T21:52:27 < aandrew> yes but i asked you to make a change to it 2016-08-30T21:52:38 -!- Sync [~foobar@sync-hv.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:53:07 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:53:29 < bartekww> http://pastebin.com/qEjjeY81 2016-08-30T21:53:33 -!- mervaka [~mervaka@mervaka.co.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T21:53:52 < aandrew> you did not modify the code like I asked to try to help narrow down the issue 2016-08-30T21:54:04 < aandrew> if (usart_ptr) { 2016-08-30T21:54:09 < aandrew> printf(usart_ptr now %d\n", usart_ptr); 2016-08-30T21:54:14 < aandrew> if(usart_buf[usart_ptr - 1] == '\r') { 2016-08-30T21:54:18 < aandrew> (everything else the same) 2016-08-30T21:54:55 < aandrew> in fact change that printf to printf("%d (%02hhx)\n", usart_ptr, usart_buf[usart_ptr)); 2016-08-30T21:56:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-30T21:58:59 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-08-30T22:00:25 < aandrew> moment 2016-08-30T22:00:30 < aandrew> that will spam your output 2016-08-30T22:00:46 < aandrew> you want something like this 2016-08-30T22:00:53 < ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/PTcOAuZ.jpg nsfw 2016-08-30T22:02:47 < aandrew> http://pastebin.com/DVnS05hE 2016-08-30T22:02:52 < aandrew> bartekww: ^^ 2016-08-30T22:03:39 < englishman> notfunnyreaderror.jpg 2016-08-30T22:04:22 < kakimir> http://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=132 is this like.. any good? 2016-08-30T22:04:24 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T22:04:26 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@hackerspace.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T22:04:56 -!- jonsowman [~jon@kryten.hexoc.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T22:07:21 < aandrew> kakimir: nice little unit 2016-08-30T22:07:32 < aandrew> would be even awesomer if there was PoE on that sucker 2016-08-30T22:08:24 < bartekww> aandrew: if i use usart_sendblocking only init completed is printing on serial 2016-08-30T22:08:30 < bartekww> if i use usart_send 2016-08-30T22:08:34 < bartekww> i see nothing 2016-08-30T22:08:41 < aandrew> it's ok, use what works for now 2016-08-30T22:08:49 < bartekww> but 2016-08-30T22:08:54 < aandrew> a proper interrupt driven, FIFO-backed transmitter is your next step :-) 2016-08-30T22:08:59 < bartekww> then only init complete works 2016-08-30T22:09:05 < bartekww> no other text 2016-08-30T22:09:06 < bartekww> so wtf 2016-08-30T22:09:18 < aandrew> well did you use my pastebin? 2016-08-30T22:09:22 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T22:09:26 < bartekww> no output 2016-08-30T22:09:29 < aandrew> the earlier code fragment I gave would have never worked correctly 2016-08-30T22:09:29 < bartekww> i have _write() 2016-08-30T22:09:31 < aandrew> no output?? 2016-08-30T22:09:37 < aandrew> break on _write 2016-08-30T22:09:49 < aandrew> you'll get a hit when you start up, but when you continue you should get another hit when you type a character 2016-08-30T22:10:49 < bartekww> nothing 2016-08-30T22:10:54 < bartekww> even no init complete 2016-08-30T22:10:57 < aandrew> you need to be a little more explicit 2016-08-30T22:11:03 < aandrew> reset the board and try 2016-08-30T22:11:12 < bartekww> i reset from gdb 2016-08-30T22:11:17 < aandrew> ok 2016-08-30T22:11:21 < aandrew> and you do not get a break on _write? 2016-08-30T22:11:26 < bartekww> nope 2016-08-30T22:11:27 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T22:11:54 < bartekww> no break 2016-08-30T22:12:00 < bartekww> i break at function name 2016-08-30T22:12:07 < bartekww> but no hit 2016-08-30T22:12:28 < aandrew> then you are not using that function? 2016-08-30T22:12:39 < aandrew> something is not how you think it is 2016-08-30T22:12:50 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-30T22:12:51 < bartekww> what 2016-08-30T22:13:00 -!- fenugrec [~R@24.226.138.4] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T22:13:27 < Rob235> :P 2016-08-30T22:13:40 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-30T22:13:51 < kakimir> aandrew: pay $100 extra and you probably get some 5years old soc board with poe integrated 2016-08-30T22:14:15 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T22:14:23 < aandrew> heh 2016-08-30T22:14:29 < aandrew> bartekww: well that's where you need to look 2016-08-30T22:14:33 < aandrew> how do you print that first message 2016-08-30T22:14:40 < aandrew> clearly you're not calling _write, so what are you calling? 2016-08-30T22:14:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-30T22:14:49 < Rob235> what is PoE? 2016-08-30T22:14:52 < bartekww> 202 usart_enable(USART1); 2016-08-30T22:14:52 < bartekww> 203 2016-08-30T22:14:52 < bartekww> 204 gpio_set_mode(GPIOC, GPIO_MODE_OUTPUT_2_MHZ, GPIO_CNF_OUTPUT_PUSHPULL, GPIO13); 2016-08-30T22:14:55 < bartekww> 205 usart_send_string("initialization complete\r\n"); 2016-08-30T22:14:57 < bartekww> Rob235: power over ethernet 2016-08-30T22:15:02 < Rob235> ahh 2016-08-30T22:15:07 < aandrew> ok 2016-08-30T22:15:13 < aandrew> so what is usart_send_string() calling? 2016-08-30T22:15:13 < Rob235> didn't know that was a thing 2016-08-30T22:15:25 < bartekww> usart_send_blocking 2016-08-30T22:15:32 < bartekww> and only it worked 2016-08-30T22:15:57 < bartekww> oh shit, i need to unblock something after? 2016-08-30T22:17:02 < aandrew> PoE has been a thing for very many years 2016-08-30T22:17:21 < Rob235> what can you get out of it 2016-08-30T22:17:52 < aandrew> power 2016-08-30T22:17:59 < bartekww> 25~60V @ 400mA 2016-08-30T22:18:12 < aandrew> I think you can get a good deal more than 400mA out of it 2016-08-30T22:18:33 < Rob235> variable voltage? 2016-08-30T22:18:34 < bartekww> i didn't tried more 2016-08-30T22:18:48 < aandrew> 25.5W 2016-08-30T22:19:07 < aandrew> you're right though that's only about 500mA 2016-08-30T22:19:18 < aandrew> Rob235: not really variable in the sense that you adjust it 2016-08-30T22:19:24 < aandrew> it is guaranteed to be within that range 2016-08-30T22:19:33 < aandrew> it needs a fairly complex negotiation IC as well 2016-08-30T22:19:37 < bartekww> yyy 2016-08-30T22:19:38 < bartekww> nope? 2016-08-30T22:19:41 < Rob235> pretty big range 2016-08-30T22:19:47 < bartekww> passive poe 2016-08-30T22:19:57 < aandrew> it places different impedances on the ethernet lines during negotiation to make sure the switch doesn't accidentally fry something down the line 2016-08-30T22:20:11 < bartekww> just voltage across 2 pins 2016-08-30T22:20:17 < aandrew> I don't consider "put 60V on the unused pairs" to be PoE. :-) 2016-08-30T22:20:20 < mra90> hmm what is "shadowed" stack pointer? 2016-08-30T22:20:41 < Rob235> oh right, I turned my soldering iron on... I should probably use it 2016-08-30T22:20:51 < bartekww> aandrew: if i use uart_send_blocking 2016-08-30T22:20:57 < bartekww> i have to use interrupt? 2016-08-30T22:21:01 < bartekww> TX interrupt 2016-08-30T22:21:09 < aandrew> I don't know your code 2016-08-30T22:21:28 < bartekww> uart_send_blocking is from libopencm3 2016-08-30T22:21:31 < bartekww> i use libopencm3 2016-08-30T22:21:34 < aandrew> blocking usually implies no need for interrupts because the routine which writes to the hardware literally waits unitl the hardware has sent the char before returning 2016-08-30T22:21:47 < aandrew> I have never touched libopencm3. 2016-08-30T22:21:55 < bartekww> ah okay 2016-08-30T22:21:59 < qyx> no, uart_send_blocking polls 2016-08-30T22:22:05 < qyx> no interrupts needed 2016-08-30T22:22:21 < aandrew> anyway if you trace the code path (break on uart_send_string and follow the path down) you can see what gets used 2016-08-30T22:23:34 < bartekww> i know 2016-08-30T22:23:53 < Rob235> ugh, just got a bag of 50 tactile switches that you can attach caps on and they are so cheap, the clicking is so loud 2016-08-30T22:28:25 < aandrew> heh that is something I never know how to gauge 2016-08-30T22:28:49 < aandrew> digikey has like 53137591837354151 tactile switches with the form factor and configuration I want, and differing actuation forces 2016-08-30T22:28:55 < aandrew> never know what i want there 2016-08-30T22:29:03 < aandrew> sometimes I want a really forceful contact, other times very little 2016-08-30T22:29:08 < Rob235> I just chose some cheap package off ebay 2016-08-30T22:29:59 < bartekww> i use aliexpress :P 2016-08-30T22:30:11 < Rob235> http://www.ebay.com/itm/201576901071 2016-08-30T22:31:09 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: cya] 2016-08-30T22:31:17 < Rob235> they are a bit bigger than I anticipated too, I probably should have measured but it doesn't really matter. I just bought them with a bag of round colored caps for general use, didn't have a specific use in mind 2016-08-30T22:31:57 -!- Theremin [~amir@chello085216129094.chello.sk] has left ##stm32 [] 2016-08-30T22:32:01 < Rob235> is there a step down from 12x12? 2016-08-30T22:32:10 < Rob235> with that square connector for caps 2016-08-30T22:34:10 < bartekww> PaulFertser: are you here? you know libopencm3 2016-08-30T22:36:11 < englishman> ReadError: beep 2016-08-30T22:36:15 < englishman> remember those sparkfun hydra cables 2016-08-30T22:36:22 < englishman> well all mine are worn out now 2016-08-30T22:36:30 < englishman> think there's anything the same but usb3, usb-c, etc? 2016-08-30T22:38:20 < Rob235> fedex blows! I didn't even know it was possible to take a whole week to get anywhere within the country nowadays :( I hate waiting for props hah 2016-08-30T22:38:39 < englishman> uh fedex ground 2016-08-30T22:42:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T22:43:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-30T22:45:24 < bartekww> aandrew: so what is wrong 2016-08-30T22:48:57 < aandrew> bartekww: no idea. what is the write routine using to get to the hardware? 2016-08-30T22:49:20 < aandrew> trace it down, see what it uses and see why printf() isn't using the same 2016-08-30T22:49:41 < aandrew> or better, maybe a better first step is to use printf("foo\n"); at the start of main(), after the HW is initialized 2016-08-30T22:49:44 < aandrew> see if that works 2016-08-30T22:49:55 < aandrew> if you override the correct weakly-defined symbols all the stdio should work 2016-08-30T22:52:30 < ReadMobl> englishman: that would be nice 2016-08-30T22:52:52 < ReadMobl> but some stuff acts retarded on usb3 2016-08-30T22:52:58 < ReadMobl> usb3 hubs* 2016-08-30T22:58:04 < bartekww> aandrew: nope, it jumps to blocking_handler 2016-08-30T22:58:06 < bartekww> omfg 2016-08-30T22:58:13 < bartekww> why that isn't working :0 2016-08-30T22:58:34 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.134.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-30T23:00:41 < aandrew> what is blocking_handler? 2016-08-30T23:00:45 < aandrew> I mean look at this logically 2016-08-30T23:00:51 < aandrew> the function that works, the one that prints out 2016-08-30T23:00:51 < bartekww> function in libopencm3 2016-08-30T23:01:01 < aandrew> trace it down, what does it ultimately do to print? 2016-08-30T23:01:02 < aandrew> that one works 2016-08-30T23:01:05 < bartekww> now it's not working 2016-08-30T23:01:18 < bartekww> if i use usart_send() 2016-08-30T23:01:33 < bartekww> instead of _blocking() 2016-08-30T23:02:20 < bartekww> https://libopencm3.github.io/docs/latest/stm32l1/html/group__usart__file.html#gae8458acbe30cf746fd98ff1cc81fcff1 2016-08-30T23:05:27 < aandrew> I am confused. 2016-08-30T23:05:30 < bartekww> why? 2016-08-30T23:05:33 < aandrew> what function are you using at the start of your program that is working? 2016-08-30T23:05:40 < bartekww> usart_send_blocking 2016-08-30T23:06:11 < aandrew> ok 2016-08-30T23:06:22 < aandrew> so change the printf() in the code I wrote to this 2016-08-30T23:06:27 < aandrew> char buf[80]; 2016-08-30T23:06:32 < bartekww> but wait 2016-08-30T23:06:55 < aandrew> sprintf(buf, "%d: %02hhx\n", usart_ptr-1, usart_buf[usart_ptr-1]); 2016-08-30T23:07:00 < aandrew> usart_send_blocking(buf); 2016-08-30T23:07:25 < bartekww> i have done git reset --hard so i have only recent working things 2016-08-30T23:07:59 < bartekww> now i'm thinking about this blocking_handleer 2016-08-30T23:08:12 < bartekww> it's infinite loop 2016-08-30T23:08:15 < bartekww> while(1) 2016-08-30T23:08:22 < bartekww> so :| 2016-08-30T23:08:22 < aandrew> sure, it sounds like it's possibly an exception "handler" 2016-08-30T23:08:24 < aandrew> if you break on there 2016-08-30T23:08:36 < aandrew> when the breakpoint hits you can use "bt" to get a backtrace and hopefully see what led you down that path 2016-08-30T23:09:44 < bartekww> where i should set i 2016-08-30T23:09:45 < bartekww> t 2016-08-30T23:10:31 -!- `````````` is now known as bourbon 2016-08-30T23:12:22 < aandrew> /nick scotch 2016-08-30T23:12:24 < aandrew> /nick beer 2016-08-30T23:12:36 < aandrew> bartekww: on blocking_handler 2016-08-30T23:12:41 < aandrew> but again 2016-08-30T23:12:42 < bartekww> but 2016-08-30T23:12:43 < aandrew> ignore this for the moment 2016-08-30T23:12:50 < bartekww> i don't even know where it is 2016-08-30T23:12:53 < aandrew> you know that usart_send_blocking() works, right? 2016-08-30T23:12:57 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-30T23:12:59 < aandrew> ok 2016-08-30T23:13:11 < aandrew> so replace the printf() in my code snippet with what I wrote above with buf, sprintf and usart_send_blocking() 2016-08-30T23:14:23 < bartekww> but wait 2016-08-30T23:14:36 < bartekww> i don't have your code with that old stuff now 2016-08-30T23:14:40 < bartekww> and 2016-08-30T23:14:54 < bartekww> maybe should i replace \r with \0 2016-08-30T23:15:21 < aandrew> well 2016-08-30T23:15:26 < aandrew> you will need to replace it 2016-08-30T23:15:29 < aandrew> don't start guessing 2016-08-30T23:15:35 < aandrew> it has nothing to do with the character you're looking for 2016-08-30T23:15:39 < aandrew> you can clearly see it's coming in 2016-08-30T23:17:10 < bartekww> oh shit 2016-08-30T23:17:17 < bartekww> now i'm getting random things 2016-08-30T23:17:23 < bartekww> in terminal 2016-08-30T23:17:30 < bartekww> when i changed to \0 2016-08-30T23:18:06 < aandrew> I can't help you if you're going to start trying random things 2016-08-30T23:18:16 < aandrew> take a principled and disciplined approach 2016-08-30T23:18:19 < bartekww> omg 2016-08-30T23:18:23 < bartekww> it's working 2016-08-30T23:18:26 < bartekww> but 2016-08-30T23:18:30 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T23:18:36 < bartekww> random things get printed 2016-08-30T23:18:46 < bartekww> looks like i was typing constantly something 2016-08-30T23:22:18 < bartekww> okay 2016-08-30T23:22:30 < bartekww> i know what gave me this blocking_handler 2016-08-30T23:22:44 < bartekww> may it be ansi escape codes :D? 2016-08-30T23:24:26 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/mzIH2lx.gifv 2016-08-30T23:26:08 < aandrew> never gets old jadew 2016-08-30T23:26:41 < jadew> found it from this one, which is pretty cool: http://imgur.com/gallery/kJIWz 2016-08-30T23:31:16 < bartekww> aandrew: 2016-08-30T23:31:19 < bartekww> (gdb) print working_buf 2016-08-30T23:31:19 < bartekww> $1 = "xO\000 \207\006\000\b8\250ℹ\005\371\314\315\356\245'i\217\341Q\351\001V\a\"\ 2016-08-30T23:31:22 < bartekww> 212:\002\313\023$\200\326R\377\207\004\000\000\000l%\000\b\a\000\000\000\005\000\0 2016-08-30T23:31:25 < bartekww> 00\000\001\001\001\001M\f\000\bT\f\000\b\000\000\000\001_\037C\024\212\257)L\n\000 2016-08-30T23:31:28 < bartekww> \000\000\230\016\000\b\230\016\000\b\213\001\000\b\370O\000 \230\016\000\n\340O\00 2016-08-30T23:31:31 < bartekww> 0 \261\001\000\b\360O\000 \221\016\000\b\360O\000 \263\006\000\b" 2016-08-30T23:31:34 < bartekww> wtf 2016-08-30T23:31:36 < bartekww> hex 2016-08-30T23:31:46 < bartekww> or no? 2016-08-30T23:31:52 < bartekww> x0\000 2016-08-30T23:32:19 < aandrew> where is your breakpoint 2016-08-30T23:32:29 < bartekww> at printing init complete 2016-08-30T23:32:33 < bartekww> and i walk thru 2016-08-30T23:32:35 < bartekww> manually 2016-08-30T23:32:40 < bartekww> im at loop now 2016-08-30T23:33:05 < aandrew> working_buf never gets initialized 2016-08-30T23:33:10 < bartekww> (gdb) print usart_buf 2016-08-30T23:33:10 < bartekww> $2 = '\000' 2016-08-30T23:33:10 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-30T23:33:12 < karlp> please use a pastebin due. 2016-08-30T23:33:16 < aandrew> so until you get to the memcpy you won't see anything useufl 2016-08-30T23:33:19 < aandrew> useful 2016-08-30T23:33:23 < bartekww> ok karlp 2016-08-30T23:33:36 < aandrew> he's doing pretty good karlp, that was really his only (slightly) excessive paste 2016-08-30T23:34:01 < bartekww> aandrew: im at line after memcpy 2016-08-30T23:34:07 < bartekww> im at memset 2016-08-30T23:34:15 < bartekww> and working buf contains that 2016-08-30T23:35:36 < aandrew> bartekww: I don't know what your code looks like 2016-08-30T23:35:44 < aandrew> you had said something about just checking for zero which of course is going to always pass 2016-08-30T23:35:52 < aandrew> because usart_buf is zeroed by default 2016-08-30T23:35:56 < aandrew> anyway 2016-08-30T23:36:16 < aandrew> I gave you some really good hints at debugging, you should try a few of them to try to nail down why it can't seem to match '\r' 2016-08-30T23:36:53 < kakimir> hacking intensifies 2016-08-30T23:36:59 < bartekww> but i still don't know 2016-08-30T23:37:49 < aandrew> bartekww: well you will know if you go back to logical processes and methodically eliminate the variables one or two at a time 2016-08-30T23:40:41 < Rob235> conversion from 5.5mm bullets to xt90s complete 2016-08-30T23:41:13 < Rob235> oh I think I need to make an xt90 connector for my battery charger 2016-08-30T23:41:25 < kakimir> what is XT90 show me 2016-08-30T23:41:34 < kakimir> I know only XT60 2016-08-30T23:41:51 < Rob235> https://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server800/05764/products/0/images/12662/xt90__84930.1452811690.1280.1280.jpg 2016-08-30T23:41:59 < Rob235> they also have xt60 and 30 2016-08-30T23:42:00 < bartekww> aandrew: hm, can be issue with those warnings 2016-08-30T23:42:02 < bartekww> memcpy 2016-08-30T23:42:02 < Rob235> smaller sizes 2016-08-30T23:42:07 < bartekww> while compiling 2016-08-30T23:42:31 < aandrew> bartekww: I can't help you if you're going to guess 2016-08-30T23:42:34 < kakimir> is it bigger connector? 2016-08-30T23:42:37 < aandrew> bartekww: get printing working 2016-08-30T23:42:50 < Rob235> kakimir: oh i didnt see you said you knew xt60, yea xt90 is just bigger 2016-08-30T23:42:52 < aandrew> I gave you a workaround for printf() not working 2016-08-30T23:44:22 < bartekww> i know 2016-08-30T23:44:23 < bartekww> sprintf 2016-08-30T23:44:25 < bartekww> but 2016-08-30T23:44:28 < bartekww> wait 2016-08-30T23:44:32 < bartekww> '\r' 2016-08-30T23:44:35 < bartekww> or "\r" 2016-08-30T23:44:46 < bartekww> i have got '\r' 2016-08-30T23:44:50 < bartekww> char 2016-08-30T23:45:27 < bartekww> Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt. 2016-08-30T23:45:28 < bartekww> 0x08000580 in usart1_isr () at src/usart.c:158 2016-08-30T23:45:28 < bartekww> 0x08000ac4 in memcpy () 2016-08-30T23:45:28 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-30T23:46:09 < aandrew> you are back to using your old code that executes everything in the ISR 2016-08-30T23:46:50 < bartekww> know 2016-08-30T23:46:59 < bartekww> but something is bad with memcpy 2016-08-30T23:47:07 < bartekww> because it gets random data 2016-08-30T23:47:17 < bartekww> as you have seen before 2016-08-30T23:48:46 < bartekww> ok, im going to sleep 2016-08-30T23:48:51 < aandrew> no 2016-08-30T23:49:00 < bartekww> will back tomorrow morning 2016-08-30T23:49:03 < aandrew> if you're breaking on memcpy it means the breakpoint occured BEFORE memcpy executed 2016-08-30T23:49:09 < bartekww> tommorow* 2016-08-30T23:49:18 < aandrew> use 'n' for next statemnt and then your dest data should be good 2016-08-30T23:49:26 < bartekww> i use s 2016-08-30T23:49:51 < bartekww> ok, good night :) 2016-08-30T23:50:48 < aandrew> good night 2016-08-30T23:52:05 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/0402-1-SMD-SMT-Chip-Resistor-Capacitor-Assortment-Book-Kit-Component-Folder-/322205311892 where to find these pages to folder but empty of componets? 2016-08-30T23:52:18 < kakimir> and what to search for? 2016-08-30T23:52:34 < kakimir> *only the last question 2016-08-30T23:52:54 < karlp> bartekww: there's printf examples in the libopencm3-examples repo, I can't work out out through the spam where you're stuck 2016-08-30T23:52:56 < kakimir> I don't want that chinese bible 2016-08-30T23:53:45 < karlp> aandrew: usart_send_blocking(buf) is a bad idead, it's only taking a usart and a char. if you usei t wrong and pass it the buff, it's probably trying to derfer the buf as the usart reg... 2016-08-30T23:55:11 < aandrew> kakimir: I bought a whole bunch of film negative holders 2016-08-30T23:55:15 < aandrew> they look more or less like that 2016-08-30T23:55:44 < aandrew> karlp: ah, that would indeed cause trouble if he was passing a ptr instead of a char 2016-08-30T23:56:54 < kakimir> aandrew: "negative sheet" 2016-08-30T23:58:48 < kakimir> aandrew: you bought 35mm ones? 2016-08-30T23:59:39 < aandrew> I think so 2016-08-30T23:59:45 < aandrew> when I get home in about an hr I will verify --- Day changed Wed Aug 31 2016 2016-08-31T00:00:55 < Rob235> it's always nice getting a text that just says "I'm horny" 2016-08-31T00:01:06 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/25-x-Negative-Filing-Sheets-for-35mm-Film-Pages-Fit-Ring-Binder-Archive-Folders-/121188202105 2016-08-31T00:01:11 < aandrew> Rob235: sorry, that was meant for dongs 2016-08-31T00:01:57 < Rob235> dongs being the sender? 2016-08-31T00:03:04 < aandrew> no, I meant to send it to him 2016-08-31T00:03:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@213.80.106.150] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-31T00:03:15 < aandrew> way to ruin a funny 2016-08-31T00:03:16 < aandrew> jerk. 2016-08-31T00:04:58 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-31T00:05:43 -!- sooda_ [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-31T00:13:38 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T00:18:10 < kakimir> where are all the pumpers? 2016-08-31T00:18:44 < ReadError> all over efnet 2016-08-31T00:20:48 < kakimir> never been there 2016-08-31T00:22:42 < basepusher> hey guys, currently trying to toggle gpioe pin 12 by setting memory address 0x40021000 to value of 0x1000. for some reason i can't write to this address, from googling it seems like i need to set peripheral clock or something? 2016-08-31T00:23:22 < kakimir> sure 2016-08-31T00:24:46 < kakimir> generally: set clocks on for all devices related to configuring and operating GPIO pins 2016-08-31T00:24:48 < basepusher> anyone have a good resource to learn how to toggle an led via arm instructions? have done some examples with libopencm3 but trying to figure out how toggling an led works at lowest level 2016-08-31T00:25:32 < Fleck> yep 2016-08-31T00:26:00 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9eqvkMzHA&list=PLPW8O6W-1chwyTzI3BHwBLbGQoPFxPAPM 2016-08-31T00:26:11 < basepusher> yea i'm guessing i'm not performing the instructions that rcc_periph_clock_enable(RCC_GPIOE) translates to 2016-08-31T00:27:36 < basepusher> i thought even without performing this function, i could write to the memory address but just not see the led blink. guess i'm wrong 2016-08-31T00:28:30 < zyp> rcc_periph_clock_enable only sets a bit in RCC_AHBENR or so 2016-08-31T00:28:47 < kakimir> sure you can.. it just memory access 2016-08-31T00:29:22 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T00:29:53 < basepusher> hmm but when trying to do set {int}0x40021000=0x1000 i'm not seeing the write go through 2016-08-31T00:30:10 < basepusher> in gdb 2016-08-31T00:30:27 < ReadMobl> episode 7 https://youtu.be/YQTDDpMiXcAD - DDOS AND SPAM 2016-08-31T00:30:33 < zyp> what's 0x40021000? 2016-08-31T00:30:35 < ReadMobl> there u go kakimir, some pump news 2016-08-31T00:30:51 < basepusher> address for gpioe 2016-08-31T00:31:01 < zyp> did you read what I wrote? 2016-08-31T00:31:10 < zyp> you need to set the GPIOE bit in RCC_AHBENR 2016-08-31T00:31:34 < basepusher> ok so if i don't set that before hand, i won't have write access to that address? 2016-08-31T00:31:56 < zyp> you won't have any access to it, the block is powered down 2016-08-31T00:32:15 < basepusher> ok thanks, yea that's what i've noticed 2016-08-31T00:32:40 < kakimir> ReadMobl: lame punpin 2016-08-31T00:32:46 < zyp> digital circuits mainly draw power at clock edges, so turning off the clock to a block practically powers it down 2016-08-31T00:33:04 < zyp> without having to actually turn off the voltage supply to it itself 2016-08-31T00:33:31 < Fleck> basepusher: http://pastebin.com/Hq9fF0pZ << for f4-disco :D 2016-08-31T00:33:38 < zyp> on stm32 pretty much all blocks are turned off by default, so that you only turn on the ones you want to use 2016-08-31T00:33:47 < zyp> saves power 2016-08-31T00:34:16 < basepusher> yep got it, thanks! 2016-08-31T00:36:46 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2016-08-31T00:40:12 -!- sooda [sooda@62-78-158-173.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T00:50:00 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-31T00:50:03 -!- KreAture_ [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-31T01:05:58 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T01:19:40 < aandrew> basepusher: just look at the ref manual, it'll have the GPIO peripheral memory map 2016-08-31T01:19:53 < aandrew> generally there's a direction reg, a set reg, a clear reg and a toggle reg 2016-08-31T01:20:16 < aandrew> write '1' to set/clear/toggle to perform that action on that bit (zeroes are "do nothing") 2016-08-31T01:23:03 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f774e6a.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2016-08-31T01:27:42 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T01:28:21 -!- KreAture [~KreAture@178.74.17.140] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T01:44:16 < Laurenceb__> sup trolls 2016-08-31T01:44:32 < englishman> hi Laurenceb__ 2016-08-31T01:44:43 < englishman> are you planning on being funny tonight 2016-08-31T01:44:48 < englishman> or will it be 8chan reposts as usual 2016-08-31T01:47:43 < Laurenceb__> 8chan reposts are funny 2016-08-31T01:48:27 -!- anton02 [~quassel@lal1651212.lnk.telstra.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T01:49:24 < anton02> is there a jumper setting for discoveries that will allow them to work when plugged into a USB charger AND when plugged into a computer?? 2016-08-31T01:53:45 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-31T01:54:24 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T01:54:55 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T02:00:24 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T02:02:46 < jadew> lmfao, I think one of my domain names where I wanted to do something but I didn't, just became very valuable, due to a movie 2016-08-31T02:03:35 < jadew> I guess I should put something on it with "Make me an offer" 2016-08-31T02:03:37 < englishman> Poke-U-Man? 2016-08-31T02:03:56 < jadew> whofucks.com 2016-08-31T02:05:00 < aandrew> adn what movie is that 2016-08-31T02:05:10 < jadew> the neon demon 2016-08-31T02:05:30 < jadew> some chicks ask another chick who she fucks 2016-08-31T02:05:41 < jadew> which is exactly the thing I wanted to answer with that site :P 2016-08-31T02:07:40 < englishman> refn makes good movies 2016-08-31T02:08:16 < englishman> i liked pusher, valhalla, drive 2016-08-31T02:08:21 < englishman> but only god forgives was super bad 2016-08-31T02:08:37 < jadew> didn't see valhalla and drive 2016-08-31T02:11:08 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2016-08-31T02:11:10 < zyp> jadew, bullshit, you just got that site so you could put

Not Laurenceb__

on it 2016-08-31T02:11:28 < jadew> haha 2016-08-31T02:11:40 < jadew> I actually had something like that there at one point 2016-08-31T02:11:46 < jadew> not about Laurenceb__ tho 2016-08-31T02:11:49 < Laurenceb__> top bantz 2016-08-31T02:12:06 < zyp> sorry about that 2016-08-31T02:15:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T02:41:27 < jadew> this movie is boring 2016-08-31T02:41:56 -!- stvn [7bf38b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.243.139.124] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T02:42:00 < englishman> which, neon demon 2016-08-31T02:42:04 < jadew> yeah 2016-08-31T02:42:07 < englishman> that sux 2016-08-31T02:43:04 < jadew> I'll give it another shot when I'm in a better mood 2016-08-31T02:43:15 < stvn> i'll put you in a better mood 2016-08-31T02:43:22 < stvn> sup crt 2016-08-31T02:43:38 < englishman> we know its you, nobody else uses the webclient 2016-08-31T02:43:47 < stvn> oh good, makes it easier. 2016-08-31T02:44:08 < englishman> any stmming up in here 2016-08-31T02:44:14 * stvn goes back to waiting for the return of tectu 2016-08-31T02:44:54 < englishman> maybe watch hardcore henry in the meantime 2016-08-31T02:47:07 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_(film) 2016-08-31T02:47:08 < englishman> lol 2016-08-31T02:47:18 < englishman> marky marks gonna be a hero 2016-08-31T02:47:42 < Laurenceb__> neon demon? 2016-08-31T02:47:50 < Laurenceb__> is dat some capeshit? 2016-08-31T02:48:07 < jadew> what's capeshit? 2016-08-31T02:48:47 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_(film) 2016-08-31T02:48:49 < stvn> i was hoping some kind of new stm32? 2016-08-31T02:48:54 < englishman> when remakes and sequels are not enough 2016-08-31T02:49:12 < englishman> just take some news heaadlines, stretch it to 2 hours and throw $150m at it 2016-08-31T02:50:48 < jadew> I take it willson will be back? 2016-08-31T02:50:52 -!- ReadMobl is now known as ReadErrr 2016-08-31T02:50:53 -!- ReadErrr is now known as ReadErr 2016-08-31T02:51:00 < stvn> an official stm32 cinema masterpiece 2016-08-31T02:51:23 < englishman> adi buys linear: the movie 2016-08-31T02:51:36 < jadew> http://socialnewsdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/tom-hanks-wilson.jpg 2016-08-31T02:53:26 < jadew> I need more movies like harry potter 2016-08-31T02:53:52 < jadew> that one always puts me in a good mood, but you can only see it so many times 2016-08-31T02:54:46 < englishman> maybe check out irreversible, thats a happy pick-me-up type of film 2016-08-31T02:54:53 < jadew> saw it 2016-08-31T02:55:09 < jadew> I only remember that scene 2016-08-31T02:55:44 < jadew> and if there was some head bashing in it, that one too 2016-08-31T03:01:12 < Laurenceb__> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Capeshit 2016-08-31T03:01:45 < Laurenceb__> watch this 2016-08-31T03:01:47 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un3Sov5Vxvk 2016-08-31T03:02:40 < Laurenceb__> https://bigbrotherreviews.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/birdemic_480x309-web.jpg 2016-08-31T03:04:36 < jadew> looks great 2016-08-31T03:05:16 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-31T03:05:29 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T03:13:57 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSWeOpJh2wo 2016-08-31T03:15:47 < jadew> seems very similar to harry potter, except it's not that well made 2016-08-31T03:16:57 < stvn> i thought if i disappeared for a few days you'd all be full into stm32 pumpin 2016-08-31T03:21:52 < Laurenceb__> Harry Potter movie was aweful 2016-08-31T03:22:03 < Laurenceb__> almost as bad as the Hobbit movies 2016-08-31T03:22:19 < stvn> they're all shit 2016-08-31T03:22:22 < Laurenceb__> like "inside the mind of someone with ADHD and ass burgers" 2016-08-31T03:22:39 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxZblVUkMU 2016-08-31T03:23:21 -!- KreAture is now known as KreAture_Zzz 2016-08-31T03:23:45 < stvn> actually laurence, i retract that, i watched the original harry potter film when i was stoned as fuck, it was great. 2016-08-31T03:24:22 < Laurenceb__> I had to turn it off before I went insane 2016-08-31T03:24:27 < jadew> I identified with the characters, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwfdFCP3KYM 2016-08-31T03:24:48 < Laurenceb__> like 1.5second clips of over 9000 simultaneous storylines that themselves are incoherent 2016-08-31T03:25:07 < stvn> don't be surprised man 2016-08-31T03:25:30 < Laurenceb__> heh 2016-08-31T03:25:36 < Laurenceb__> last two batman films were epic 2016-08-31T03:25:46 < Laurenceb__> first batman trilogy film was lame and derivative 2016-08-31T03:26:51 < Laurenceb__> I need to watch Interstellar and other Nolan stuff 2016-08-31T03:28:11 < Laurenceb__> I find about 95% of recent films to be utterly shit 2016-08-31T03:28:28 < Laurenceb__> probably true for all films, but old stuff has been "pre filtered" 2016-08-31T03:29:46 < Laurenceb__> sharknado looks good 2016-08-31T03:42:05 < stvn> with a name like that, how could it NOT be good. 2016-08-31T03:42:06 < stvn> seriously. 2016-08-31T03:42:52 < Laurenceb__> https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/25-movies-so-bad-theyre-unmissable/ 2016-08-31T03:45:34 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-31T03:48:14 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-31T03:58:38 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T04:00:42 < englishman> i hear sharknado 7 was the peak of sharknado 2016-08-31T04:00:51 < englishman> after that, especially sharknado 13 it was just pandering 2016-08-31T04:20:21 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T04:33:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-19-73-115.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-31T04:58:18 < ReadErr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWRrmAmi5AM PUMP FOR TRUMP 2016-08-31T05:11:45 < englishman> this show isnt funny at all 2016-08-31T05:15:58 < ReadErr> yea its a depressing story 2016-08-31T05:24:51 < englishman> hardcore henry = mad max 2016, film of the year, it wins all the oscars 2016-08-31T05:31:06 < aandrew> http://mixdown.ca/dump/routing.pdf 2016-08-31T05:31:13 < aandrew> when 12 timers just isn't enough 2016-08-31T05:31:33 < aandrew> top part routes the PWM signals to one end or the other of the motor H bridges 2016-08-31T05:32:01 < aandrew> bottom part routes either some LED detectors or encoder inputs back to timer pins 2016-08-31T05:37:35 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-31T05:52:40 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-31T05:52:47 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has joined ##stm32 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stvn> got the metcal mfr at home, thermaltronics at work, and metcal mx-5000 system at shop2 2016-08-31T06:49:29 < stvn> englishman: check the quality on the replacement they sent me for the busted mfr - http://i.imgur.com/iqKgc8Q.jpg 2016-08-31T07:07:21 < ReadErr> lol 2016-08-31T07:15:13 < stvn> that's a dope fuckin newscast man 2016-08-31T07:16:29 -!- Cyric_ [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T07:17:02 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2016-08-31T07:17:56 < ReadErr> stay pumping my friend 2016-08-31T07:30:32 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-31T07:54:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T08:03:33 < englishman> nice crt 2016-08-31T08:04:01 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T08:10:54 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T08:30:28 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.6] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T08:42:52 < englishman> lil ax-ident on the farm https://youtu.be/Lk56c2cS_w4 2016-08-31T08:43:20 < stvn> wheres the cat 2016-08-31T08:46:52 < englishman> hiding the matches in the litterbox 2016-08-31T08:56:03 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.6.102] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-31T08:56:50 < PeterM> englishman, i assume you burn stuff often right? 2016-08-31T08:57:37 < PeterM> ever gotten a small (375/600ml) coke bottle, put about 25-50ml of petrol in it, screwed the lid on and put it on the fire, but near the outside? 2016-08-31T08:57:52 < englishman> fixed https://youtu.be/FL-NnmD2Vqs 2016-08-31T08:58:14 < englishman> PeterM: yeah but they are usually in big piles and marshmallows are involved 2016-08-31T08:58:31 < PeterM> ahh 2016-08-31T08:58:55 < PeterM> we regularly do it to clean up rubbish and often that kinda thing inadvertantly happens 2016-08-31T08:59:40 < PeterM> also, whats that, something like 5000kg of LPG? 2016-08-31T09:00:24 < englishman> yeah for grain dryer 2016-08-31T09:01:17 < PeterM> yeah, we've got a few of them round here, we've got a prune dehydrator, uses about 7000kg/24h 2016-08-31T09:01:59 < PeterM> and as a result, we make everything run off lpg that we can 2016-08-31T09:03:29 < stvn> a rig big enough to haul that fat tank of gas 2016-08-31T09:04:38 < stvn> what a puny plan 2016-08-31T09:11:24 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T09:13:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T09:13:06 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-31T09:13:19 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-31T09:30:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T09:39:31 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T09:40:04 -!- stvn [7bf38b7c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.123.243.139.124] has quit [Quit: see you in hell you mad bastard!] 2016-08-31T09:44:34 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T10:01:32 < Steffann> Crt why no crt? 2016-08-31T10:03:39 < englishman> steffanx why no steffanx? 2016-08-31T10:04:08 < jpa-> englishman why no eu? 2016-08-31T10:04:14 < Steffann> Steffanx is home. Steffann isnt 2016-08-31T10:04:32 < englishman> no english in eu 2016-08-31T10:06:39 < Steffann> Ireland is still there. But that english might also be irish. 2016-08-31T10:09:40 < bartekww> hey 2016-08-31T10:09:46 < bartekww> i'm back aandrew :P 2016-08-31T10:10:00 < bartekww> Steffann: have you got any idea 2016-08-31T10:10:11 < bartekww> if i receive char with uart 2016-08-31T10:10:15 < bartekww> then send it 2016-08-31T10:10:16 < bartekww> same 2016-08-31T10:10:20 < bartekww> not changed 2016-08-31T10:10:36 < bartekww> i randomly get that what i type or random bytes 2016-08-31T10:13:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec28157-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T10:16:52 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-31T10:18:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@c-73-221-121-119.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.] 2016-08-31T10:20:01 < bartekww> oh, it's probably working now but i have got still blocking_handler 2016-08-31T10:21:12 < Steffann> Probably. Its time to get back to the basics and be sure about what you are doing ;) 2016-08-31T10:21:27 < bartekww> i'm sure what i'm doing 2016-08-31T10:21:48 < Steffann> You can step through you code right? Shouldnt be that to figure out why the wrong character is sent back 2016-08-31T10:21:55 < bartekww> now it's working 2016-08-31T10:21:58 < bartekww> but 2016-08-31T10:23:00 < bartekww> it have worked 2016-08-31T10:23:04 < bartekww> i reset the board 2016-08-31T10:23:07 -!- ou5x [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-31T10:23:08 < bartekww> magic 2016-08-31T10:23:09 < bartekww> not work 2016-08-31T10:24:06 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T10:24:23 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T10:24:27 -!- bugzc [~1@unaffiliated/bugzc] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2016-08-31T10:26:29 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T10:31:52 < ReadError> 'magic' *jazzhands' 2016-08-31T10:32:32 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T10:32:34 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T10:32:37 < bartekww> working, yay 2016-08-31T10:32:45 < bartekww> how to implement backspace? 2016-08-31T10:32:49 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-31T10:33:12 < ReadError> google it 2016-08-31T10:39:04 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T10:56:57 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@77-58-33-178.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-31T11:07:24 < bartekww> aandrew: i must process in isr because otherwise it will not work. 2016-08-31T11:07:29 < bartekww> now it works 2016-08-31T11:07:43 < bartekww> but i don't know how to make backspace :P 2016-08-31T11:09:01 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@212-51-140-250.fiber7.init7.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T11:11:06 < Steffann> Is this some hobby project bartekww? 2016-08-31T11:11:48 < bartekww> yup 2016-08-31T11:11:50 < bartekww> :D 2016-08-31T11:12:59 < bartekww> why? 2016-08-31T11:14:16 < Steffann> Just curious. 2016-08-31T11:14:32 < bartekww> :P 2016-08-31T11:14:42 < bartekww> i'm new to stm32 2016-08-31T11:21:46 < aandrew> bartekww: no, you absolutely do not have to process it in ISR 2016-08-31T11:22:02 < aandrew> you *can* do it in the ISR but you are setting yourself up for future failure as you add more to the software 2016-08-31T11:22:09 < bartekww> but 2016-08-31T11:22:13 < bartekww> this will be spi programmer 2016-08-31T11:22:18 < aandrew> anyway, 0420 here, time for bed 2016-08-31T11:22:26 < bartekww> all things will be launched from isr 2016-08-31T11:22:32 < bartekww> from cmd parser 2016-08-31T11:23:49 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yakakqeotozvdpgw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-31T11:25:40 -!- englishman [sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wloiwiojjyheuzsa] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T11:28:37 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-31T11:29:30 < ReadError> whats stoning 2016-08-31T11:38:26 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-31T11:39:00 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@212-51-140-250.fiber7.init7.net] has quit [Quit: mringwal] 2016-08-31T11:43:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.6] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-31T11:44:58 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T11:55:32 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.134] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T11:59:06 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T12:00:48 -!- danielinux [sbnc@2001:41c8:1:54f6::10] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-31T12:00:48 -!- danielinux [sbnc@fosdem/staff/danielinux] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T12:03:17 -!- mringwal [~mringwal@212-51-140-250.fiber7.init7.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T12:11:03 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-31T12:20:44 -!- mumptai [~calle@x5f775b60.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T12:26:50 -!- Palsson [~Palsson@pc-193-235-91-227.norrkoping.se] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 2016-08-31T12:52:33 < BrainDamage> weird, i tought you'd be all over the latest emdrive updates 2016-08-31T12:53:13 < Laurenceb__> reading atm 2016-08-31T12:53:15 < Steffann> tldr; we need a new one: fldr From laurenceb, didn't read 2016-08-31T12:54:08 < Steffann> If i knew how to flip text upside down i would have written tldr with the t upsidedown 2016-08-31T12:54:35 < Steffann> And mirrores 2016-08-31T12:54:37 < Steffann> D 2016-08-31T12:55:15 < BrainDamage> ʇl;dr ? 2016-08-31T12:55:23 < Laurenceb__> wut they have passed peer review 2016-08-31T12:55:27 < Laurenceb__> so confuse 2016-08-31T12:56:04 < Steffann> Going to publish in Nature? 2016-08-31T12:56:10 < Laurenceb__> took me longer to get something on vibration hazard exposure through peer review :( 2016-08-31T12:56:20 < Laurenceb__> there is no info on the journal yet 2016-08-31T12:56:25 < BrainDamage> no, some propulsion journal, but i have no idea about the quality 2016-08-31T12:56:37 < BrainDamage> >Rodal also revealed that the paper will be published in the AIAA Journal of Propulsion and Power 2016-08-31T12:57:16 < Laurenceb__> wtf thats quite high profile 2016-08-31T12:57:19 < Laurenceb__> crazy 2016-08-31T12:58:01 < Laurenceb__> bbl 2016-08-31T12:58:17 * Laurenceb__ cant even parse forum pages correctly 2016-08-31T13:02:31 < Sync> maybe they are not troling 2016-08-31T13:02:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-173-255-140.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-31T13:05:43 < Steffann> Couldnt handle it anymore \o/ 2016-08-31T13:05:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T13:05:55 < ReadError> ddos'd Laurenceb ? 2016-08-31T13:12:18 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-31T13:13:42 < Steffann> My botnet is too small for that. 2016-08-31T13:14:25 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T13:14:58 < ReadError> nah you are supposed to say "with pipes this fat, distribution not required" 2016-08-31T13:17:51 < BrainDamage> that's what she said 2016-08-31T13:18:05 < ReadError> hmm wait 2016-08-31T13:18:10 < ReadError> ok i c 2016-08-31T13:22:48 -!- elektrinis-wrk [~cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-31T13:23:06 -!- elektrinis [~cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T13:23:06 -!- elektrinis [~cisrcuit@88-119-26-168.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Changing host] 2016-08-31T13:23:06 -!- elektrinis [~cisrcuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T13:29:42 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T13:31:44 < Steffann> Welcomd steven 2016-08-31T13:33:12 < stvn> hi Steffann :) 2016-08-31T13:43:52 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.132.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 2016-08-31T14:06:36 -!- c4017_ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T14:09:55 -!- c4017__ [~c4017@node-1w7jr9qihf28ttjyhgqaticvv.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-31T14:12:10 < stvn> i want NUC 2016-08-31T14:13:29 < karlp> heh, "when should you use an fpga" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQxVaScu9tg&feature=youtu.be&t=1599 2016-08-31T14:14:26 < stvn> when you need to use FPGA of course. 2016-08-31T14:25:41 < bartekww> guys 2016-08-31T14:25:42 < bartekww> (gdb) print c 2016-08-31T14:25:42 < bartekww> $3 = 134221224 2016-08-31T14:25:42 < bartekww> (gdb) 2016-08-31T14:26:04 < bartekww> int c = strlen(dest); 2016-08-31T14:26:04 < bartekww> if (c == 0) { 2016-08-31T14:26:04 < bartekww> usart_send_line("error: no args\r\n"); 2016-08-31T14:26:04 < bartekww> prompt(); 2016-08-31T14:26:04 < bartekww> return; 2016-08-31T14:26:06 < bartekww> } 2016-08-31T14:26:20 < bartekww> but prompt get executed 2016-08-31T14:26:22 < bartekww> why? 2016-08-31T14:28:07 < Laurenceb> Murica http://i.imgur.com/EnQdt4s.jpg 2016-08-31T14:28:28 -!- fenugrec [~R@24-226-138-4.tr.cgocable.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T14:34:41 < karlp> Laurenceb: you know what she's talking about right? 2016-08-31T14:34:58 < karlp> or are you just like hur hur, strap on 2016-08-31T14:35:14 < Laurenceb> the second one lol 2016-08-31T14:35:24 < Laurenceb> was there a law against them? 2016-08-31T14:37:39 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-92-79.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T14:37:44 < Laurenceb> ah Texas obscenity statute, lulz^2 2016-08-31T14:42:22 < karlp> more than that. 2016-08-31T14:42:55 < karlp> university of texas currently bans dildos from campus (long standing ban) but recently allowed open carry firearms on campus 2016-08-31T14:43:18 < karlp> some people, such as your dildo wearing friend, think that's a rather absurd state of affairs. 2016-08-31T14:53:16 < stvn> the ##stm32 news 2016-08-31T14:54:45 < Laurenceb> stvn: important and relevant news for all ##stm32 members 2016-08-31T14:54:56 < stvn> exactly. 2016-08-31T14:54:56 < Laurenceb> we like to shoot shit whilst dildoing 2016-08-31T14:55:10 < stvn> i dildo 24/7 2016-08-31T14:58:38 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-31T14:58:47 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T15:01:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec28157-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-31T15:01:14 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-2ec28157-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T15:02:36 < jadew> "the output amplitude 0-2VPP @ 1M high impedance, 0--1VPP @ 50 in Europe" 2016-08-31T15:03:06 < Laurenceb> stupid euros cant be trusted with more than a volt 2016-08-31T15:08:57 < stvn> :o 2016-08-31T15:09:02 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2016-08-31T15:18:54 < stvn> http://cdn3.volusion.com/cqop7.se3q3/v/vspfiles/photos/1001-3.jpg 2016-08-31T15:21:17 < Ecco> Guys, what would be the proper way to pause a Cortex-M4 CPU for a small time (i.e. 1ms) 2016-08-31T15:21:26 < bartekww> nop? 2016-08-31T15:21:31 < Ecco> while (i--) {} seems like a waste 2016-08-31T15:21:36 < Ecco> nop does the job 2016-08-31T15:21:48 < Ecco> but I wonder if there's not something easier 2016-08-31T15:21:59 < bartekww> nop. 2016-08-31T15:22:12 < Ecco> sorry 2016-08-31T15:22:14 < Ecco> more efficient 2016-08-31T15:22:41 < jpa-> you can't easily get accurate delay that way 2016-08-31T15:22:42 < emeryth> sleep mode? 2016-08-31T15:22:52 < jpa-> Ecco: efficient in what way? power usage? 2016-08-31T15:22:54 < Ecco> Yeah 2016-08-31T15:23:02 < Ecco> I don't care about the accuracy of the delay 2016-08-31T15:23:06 < jpa-> you can setup a timer to give you interrupt and then go to power save mode 2016-08-31T15:23:09 < jpa-> that can save a bit 2016-08-31T15:23:12 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-31T15:23:20 < Ecco> I see, indeed 2016-08-31T15:23:24 < jpa-> but if the delay is really short (like 1us) then sleeping is not worth it 2016-08-31T15:23:28 < Ecco> ok 2016-08-31T15:23:42 < Ecco> no it's definitely something big 2016-08-31T15:23:45 < Ecco> 1ms at least 2016-08-31T15:26:12 < Ecco> Another stupid question regarding low-power modes 2016-08-31T15:26:30 < Ecco> I don't understand the "sleep" mode : Cortex M4 stopped, peripherals kept running 2016-08-31T15:26:33 < Ecco> how can this work? 2016-08-31T15:26:39 < Ecco> Let's take SPI for example 2016-08-31T15:26:48 < Ecco> what does it mean that SPI is "kept running" if the CPU is not running? 2016-08-31T15:28:09 < stvn> the SPI is not entirely dependent on CPU 2016-08-31T15:28:36 < Ecco> yeah, I see how the SPI could buffer up a byte 2016-08-31T15:28:42 < Ecco> (I don't remeber the buffer length) 2016-08-31T15:28:47 < Ecco> but well, that's kinda useless isn't it? 2016-08-31T15:29:03 < stvn> depends on your application 2016-08-31T15:29:09 < Ecco> I see 2016-08-31T15:29:33 < Ecco> so the use case would be the MCU doing micro-sleeps between chunks being transfered? 2016-08-31T15:30:41 < emeryth> or you can use DMA 2016-08-31T15:30:51 < Ecco> ok makes sense 2016-08-31T15:46:40 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Fake@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-31T16:04:28 < stvn> oh my cod 2016-08-31T16:04:35 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T16:09:20 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T16:17:16 < Ecco> ? 2016-08-31T16:19:29 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/5VPbdH7.jpg 2016-08-31T16:21:08 < Steffann> Is this analog Laurenceb ? What is it? 2016-08-31T16:21:15 < englishman> karlp: in Vancouver, it is illegal to dance, except for designated and licensed dancing areas. 2016-08-31T16:24:57 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T16:30:41 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T16:44:56 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T16:52:27 < Rob235> yooooooo 2016-08-31T16:56:16 < ReadErr> yes hello 2016-08-31T17:02:06 < Rob235> missing some letters? 2016-08-31T17:11:19 < karlp> englishman: that's fairly common actually, they're hangovers from prohibition era in a few countries 2016-08-31T17:11:28 < karlp> still bad laws that should be repealed... 2016-08-31T17:14:20 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T17:17:08 < englishman> aftermath http://i.imgur.com/Pzo5bue.jpg 2016-08-31T17:20:59 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T17:26:30 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-31T17:31:32 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-31T17:36:22 < englishman> Laurenceb: reddit has decided that em:drive works and is awesome. u r rekt https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/50ehas/an_independent_scientist_has_confirmed_that_the/ 2016-08-31T17:38:38 < Laurenceb> lul jose Rodal 2016-08-31T17:38:48 < Laurenceb> in a now-deleted comment 2016-08-31T17:38:50 < Laurenceb> top kek 2016-08-31T17:38:52 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2016-08-31T17:39:06 < Laurenceb> https://www.linkedin.com/in/joserodal 2016-08-31T17:39:23 < Laurenceb> Algorithmic trading... coincidence much 2016-08-31T17:39:55 < englishman> for me, the issue is, how do i make money off of em:drive retards 2016-08-31T17:40:05 < englishman> can i sell em:drive testing 2016-08-31T17:40:08 < englishman> and just make up whatever 2016-08-31T17:40:28 < englishman> or maybe em:drive executive desktop models 2016-08-31T17:40:40 -!- Rickta59 [~Rickta59@107.12.198.216] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T17:43:14 < englishman> Shawyer believes EmDrive could transform the aerospace industry and potentially solve both the energy crisis and climate change, 2016-08-31T17:43:23 < englishman> i love science journalism 2016-08-31T17:43:52 < englishman> cuz i found a 18" black rubber dildo on ebay that i think could solve the same problems 2016-08-31T17:44:31 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T17:45:17 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2016-08-31T17:45:53 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T17:55:36 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T17:55:45 -!- stvn [~~@14-201-87-50.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2016-08-31T18:01:07 < Laurenceb> lul reddit front page 2016-08-31T18:01:56 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-31T18:04:50 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T18:07:22 < Laurenceb> lol Mike McCulloch is b& from arxiv 2016-08-31T18:07:45 < Laurenceb> http://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/2015/08/so-hard-to-create-so-easy-to-destroy.html 2016-08-31T18:08:34 < wanderman> :) 2016-08-31T18:09:06 < wanderman> brain = accedental collision of bunch of atoms 2016-08-31T18:09:57 < Laurenceb> wanderman is TempleOS ? 2016-08-31T18:10:19 < wanderman> no 2016-08-31T18:10:29 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2016-08-31T18:10:37 < aandrew> bartekww: the architecture of your code is completely backward from standard practise. If it works for you though, go for it I guess 2016-08-31T18:11:00 < wanderman> he is inspired by , apple theme, " think differnet " 2016-08-31T18:11:46 < aandrew> Ecco: 1ms is not a small time for a modern CPU. Systick would be very handy, and you could also use a timer 2016-08-31T18:19:18 < Laurenceb> https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/50dxt6/what_do_the_twin_towers_and_genders_have_in_common/ 2016-08-31T18:21:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T18:23:39 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-31T18:27:47 < aandrew> https://www.troyhunt.com/the-dropbox-hack-is-real/ 2016-08-31T18:27:49 < aandrew> wow 2016-08-31T18:30:27 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T18:30:38 < jadew> wow indeed 2016-08-31T18:30:51 < jadew> good thing my automated backup system also encrypts my stuff 2016-08-31T18:31:25 < jadew> and when I was telling people I do that they thought I'm crazy hah! 2016-08-31T18:32:19 < englishman> lol nice 2016-08-31T18:32:27 < englishman> fuck dropcocks 2016-08-31T18:33:47 < Laurenceb> hmm do they have raw text passwords? 2016-08-31T18:34:21 < englishman> probably stored in plaintext on condoleeza rice's iphone yeah 2016-08-31T18:36:13 < Laurenceb> It is the parents duty to transfer knowledge and wisdom from generation to generation. Donald trump got his wisdom and knowledge from his father. Children of Trump gets their wisdom and knowledge from Donald Trump. 2016-08-31T18:36:28 < Laurenceb> 8chan explained 2016-08-31T18:36:43 < jadew> looks like my e-mail address is in that list of dropbox accounts that got hacked 2016-08-31T18:36:50 < Laurenceb> wtf eek 2016-08-31T18:38:59 < Laurenceb> mine too 2016-08-31T18:40:00 < Ecco> I have an LED that I'm driving using a PWM timer 2016-08-31T18:40:08 < Ecco> when going in STOP mode, the timer is stopped 2016-08-31T18:40:10 < Ecco> so far, so good 2016-08-31T18:40:19 < Ecco> now I'd like the LED to be turned off when the STM32 is stopped 2016-08-31T18:40:26 < Ecco> what's the easiest way to achieve this? 2016-08-31T18:40:26 < jadew> I sure hope they didn't manage to break my encryption, I have a lot of sensitive shit there 2016-08-31T18:40:33 < jadew> like code from work 2016-08-31T18:40:47 < jadew> possibly passwords and credentials 2016-08-31T18:41:11 < jadew> oh well, what's done is done 2016-08-31T18:42:22 < Ecco> I sure can disable the timer manually, set the GPIO to standard output, and set it low, then enter stop mode 2016-08-31T18:42:28 < Ecco> and do it all back when exiting stop mode 2016-08-31T18:42:31 < Ecco> but that seems pretty tedious 2016-08-31T18:43:35 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.70] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T18:44:20 < Laurenceb> uh oh https://ukhas.org.uk/general:ukhasconference2016 2016-08-31T18:44:28 < Laurenceb> 10:40 Evidence that Biology is Continually Arriving to Earth from Space - Prof Milton Wainwright (Univ. of Sheffield) 2016-08-31T18:45:03 < jadew> hah, I have to read that 2016-08-31T18:45:19 < Laurenceb> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/alien-life-found-above-derbyshire-proves-were-descended-from-extraterrestrials-say-scientists-9782153.html 2016-08-31T18:45:26 < Laurenceb> cool story bro 2016-08-31T18:45:26 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip70-176-184-195.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T18:47:11 < kakimir> Laurenceb bloodline 2016-08-31T18:47:37 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T18:48:49 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-31T18:48:50 < Laurenceb> http://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2013/09/20/debunked_aliens_in_earths_atmosphere_106681.html 2016-08-31T18:48:59 < Laurenceb> as if it was a difficult task 2016-08-31T18:49:43 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T18:50:11 < Laurenceb> lulpwnd http://www.skeptical-science.com/tag/milton-wainwright/ 2016-08-31T18:50:39 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.133.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2016-08-31T18:51:03 < Laurenceb> Professor Wainwright (yes he really is one, but don’t let that fool you) top kek 2016-08-31T18:58:19 -!- blight [~greg@reactos/developer/blight] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T18:58:30 -!- elektrinis-hme [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T19:00:14 < ReadError> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SNtdi4PT/IMG_1487.mov 2016-08-31T19:00:17 < ReadError> PLEASE HELP 2016-08-31T19:00:56 < Laurenceb> CONDUCTOR We HAVE A PROBLEM 2016-08-31T19:01:26 < Steffann> Is that your 4k screen ReadError ? 2016-08-31T19:01:43 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-64-245.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T19:01:45 < ReadError> one of them lol 2016-08-31T19:02:04 < Steffann> Better not press and kill it 2016-08-31T19:02:31 < ReadError> ugh i hope it crawls out 2016-08-31T19:02:38 < Steffann> Or is it fake? :P 2016-08-31T19:02:38 < ReadError> i really dont want to take this thing apart 2016-08-31T19:02:40 < ReadError> bro no 2016-08-31T19:02:43 < ReadError> its 100% real 2016-08-31T19:03:04 < ReadErr> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/clVtC9pH/IMG_1486.JPG 2016-08-31T19:03:08 < Steffann> Where does it even walk that its so visible 2016-08-31T19:03:49 < aandrew> dude 2016-08-31T19:03:53 < aandrew> why would you kill the spiderbro 2016-08-31T19:04:09 < ReadError> Steffann its alll over 2016-08-31T19:04:15 < ReadError> it likes to chill towards the edges 2016-08-31T19:05:13 -!- tecdroid [~icke@37.120.72.30] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T19:05:21 < Steffann> It will die eventually.. 2016-08-31T19:05:28 < ReadError> at first i thought I was tripping from not sleeping 2016-08-31T19:05:33 < ReadError> but this shit is 100% 2016-08-31T19:06:35 < Steffann> But its not in the panel is it? Never seen a panel with enough space in between the layers. 2016-08-31T19:07:58 < ReadErr> its between 2016-08-31T19:08:03 < ReadErr> yea I didnt think it was possible 2016-08-31T19:08:56 < ReadErr> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ZVckIqm2/IMG_1489.JPG 2016-08-31T19:14:27 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T19:23:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-2ec28157-74736162.cust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-31T19:28:26 < Steffann> It will catch the bugs in you sw. 2016-08-31T19:29:53 < englishman> lol 2016-08-31T19:30:17 < ReadErr> THIS IS NOT A LAUGHING MATTER 2016-08-31T19:30:21 < ReadErr> i hate spiders 2016-08-31T19:31:52 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T19:33:55 < englishman> how can em:drive solve this problem 2016-08-31T19:34:01 < Rob235> mmm fresh dabs 2016-08-31T19:34:36 < ReadErr> what you smokin on 2016-08-31T19:35:11 < Rob235> I have a nice small medical glass rig with double percolator and a quartz banger 2016-08-31T19:35:44 < Rob235> what do you use 2016-08-31T19:36:01 < Steffanx> Stoner. 2016-08-31T19:36:07 < Rob235> :) 2016-08-31T19:36:11 < englishman> high stoning technology 2016-08-31T19:36:15 < Rob235> its medicinal 2016-08-31T19:36:44 < Steffanx> Does that excuse work? 2016-08-31T19:38:05 < ReadErr> what kind of dab 2016-08-31T19:42:27 -!- wanderman [~wanderman@unaffiliated/wanderman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T19:43:02 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@c-73-178-146-48.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 2016-08-31T19:46:40 -!- freakuency [~akerlund@mod01.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T19:46:46 -!- Rob235 [~Rob235@104.243.24.236] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T19:47:02 < Rob235> oops 2016-08-31T19:49:08 < Rob235> name escapes me atm but its some kind of OG kush shatter 2016-08-31T19:49:48 < Laurenceb> https://science.slashdot.org/story/16/08/31/0612233/emdrive-nasa-eagleworks-peer-reviwed-paper-is-on-its-way 2016-08-31T19:51:18 -!- Prutheus [~XPS@p4FD25740.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2016-08-31T19:51:23 < Laurenceb> lul space nutter thread 2016-08-31T19:51:27 < Laurenceb> someone fed the troll 2016-08-31T19:52:49 < Laurenceb> Peer-Reviw 2016-08-31T19:53:06 < englishman> my cat looked at it and approved by nibbling on the corner 2016-08-31T19:53:23 < englishman> SCIENCE 2016-08-31T19:53:53 < Laurenceb> https://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9593187&cid=52802323 2016-08-31T20:00:19 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-31T20:00:43 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T20:01:57 -!- Laurenceb [~laurence@vlsi1.eee.nottingham.ac.uk] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T20:07:13 < Steffann> sexy photo for englishmen https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UIGdPnIg/sexy+photo+for+englishman.jpg 2016-08-31T20:07:21 < englishman> hot 2016-08-31T20:09:23 < Steffanx> Just bought some. 2016-08-31T20:09:45 < englishman> jealous 2016-08-31T20:13:36 -!- mitrax [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T20:15:30 -!- zygron_ [mitrax@7-36-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T20:32:57 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.127] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T20:35:15 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.45.212] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T20:54:14 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T20:58:23 -!- Ultrasauce [~quassel@blk-215-99-124.eastlink.ca] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T21:12:32 < jadew> https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/50eh6e/an_independent_scientist_has_confirmed_that_the/d73otyq 2016-08-31T21:12:36 < jadew> Laurenceb ^ 2016-08-31T21:12:50 < Laurenceb> yeah heard already 2016-08-31T21:12:54 < jadew> ah, you just posted that 2016-08-31T21:16:02 < jadew> Laurenceb, what frequency are they using? 2016-08-31T21:16:13 < Laurenceb> 2.5Ghz or so 2016-08-31T21:16:21 < Laurenceb> oh waybe notr 2016-08-31T21:16:32 < Laurenceb> nasa team has solid state amp 2016-08-31T21:16:37 < Laurenceb> so who knows 2016-08-31T21:16:41 < jadew> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/emdrive-nasa-eagleworks-paper-has-finally-passed-peer-review-says-scientist-know-1578716#slideshow/1436361 2016-08-31T21:16:46 < Laurenceb> but its a Ghz or two 2016-08-31T21:16:56 < jadew> if you can find a better photo of that, we could take a look on the sig gen 2016-08-31T21:20:32 < Laurenceb> why bother 2016-08-31T21:20:38 < Laurenceb> its confirmed fake 2016-08-31T21:20:52 < Laurenceb> just look at the massive fan on the ceiling of the Shawyer "lab" 2016-08-31T21:25:45 < jadew> fake or not, I could use something like that 2016-08-31T21:26:02 < englishman> the 'experiment' with 'unreleased results' 2016-08-31T21:26:23 < jadew> I'd buy a couple of stamps, fly around the earth at near the light speed for a couple of months then come back and sell them for a fortune 2016-08-31T21:26:43 < englishman> wheres a pic Laurenceb 2016-08-31T21:27:28 < Laurenceb> https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1436361/roger-shawyer-inventor-emdrive.jpg 2016-08-31T21:27:46 < englishman> no, of the fan 2016-08-31T21:28:08 < jadew> can you imagine if we were able to do that? instead of waiting for the pizza to bake, take a short trip at light speed, you skip the waiting and you gain 15 minutes of future 2016-08-31T21:28:35 < englishman> imagine instead of waiting for a pizza to bake, you order one on your digital light box and it arrives at your door 2016-08-31T21:29:31 < jadew> Laurenceb, ah ha, 3.850 GHz 2016-08-31T21:29:45 < jadew> I wonder if he's selling that sig gen, cuz I need one that can do 4 GHz :D 2016-08-31T21:30:38 < jadew> englishman, there could be a lot of applications to time skipping 2016-08-31T21:30:38 < Laurenceb> hmm I pasted image here 2016-08-31T21:30:43 < Laurenceb> ages ago... 2016-08-31T21:30:53 < jadew> that image? 2016-08-31T21:30:54 < englishman> jadew when are you going to reveal your awesome get rich quick scheme 2016-08-31T21:31:02 < Laurenceb> fan image 2016-08-31T21:31:20 < jadew> englishman, you mean my new project? :) 2016-08-31T21:31:23 < englishman> yes 2016-08-31T21:31:38 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a3b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T21:31:51 < jadew> I can only hope it's going to be a get rich quick scheme, but so far it's just a lot of work that can hopefully turn into a regular business 2016-08-31T21:32:17 < jadew> I'll reveal it when it's done 2016-08-31T21:32:24 < Laurenceb> I canna find it, too lazy 2016-08-31T21:32:40 < englishman> dammit Laurenceb 2016-08-31T21:32:47 < Laurenceb> lul 2016-08-31T21:32:49 < englishman> it was in that mockumentary 2016-08-31T21:33:04 < Laurenceb> search for horizon documentary on emdrive 2016-08-31T21:33:10 < Laurenceb> you can see it above their heads 2016-08-31T21:34:10 < englishman> yes 2016-08-31T21:34:18 < englishman> uk only on bbc due to racism 2016-08-31T21:34:26 < englishman> +banned vpns 2016-08-31T21:34:42 < jadew> did they not notice the correlation between the temperature and the drive they were measuring? 2016-08-31T21:34:50 < Laurenceb> due to racism 2016-08-31T21:34:50 < jadew> "seems to only work when it's hot outside" 2016-08-31T21:34:52 < Laurenceb> top kek 2016-08-31T21:35:10 < Laurenceb> this should be a generic error message 2016-08-31T21:35:30 < Laurenceb> muh lsm9ds1 reflow is racist 2016-08-31T21:35:48 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2016-08-31T21:36:07 < Laurenceb> grrrr 2016-08-31T21:36:08 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/VnPA5ap.jpg 2016-08-31T21:36:10 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T21:36:15 < Laurenceb> bottom of fan cage there 2016-08-31T21:36:27 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 2016-08-31T21:38:53 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T21:38:55 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-98-27-155-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T21:43:26 < jadew> so what does it take to try it? 2016-08-31T21:43:33 < jadew> you have to build that bell? 2016-08-31T21:45:59 < englishman> you can't 2016-08-31T21:46:13 < englishman> because if you build one, and you get the expected result of zero thrust, then you have built it wrong 2016-08-31T21:53:45 < Laurenceb> ^this 2016-08-31T21:53:59 < Laurenceb> unless you install huge fan on ceiling 2016-08-31T21:58:03 -!- Activate_for_moa [~A@213.87.135.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2016-08-31T22:04:47 < bartekww> aandrew: here? 2016-08-31T22:05:22 < bartekww> got working CLI, i made backspace working 2016-08-31T22:05:28 < bartekww> ctrl c 2016-08-31T22:12:21 < Rob235> hmm, so we decided to drop cable tv and doubled our internet speed 2016-08-31T22:13:16 < Steffanx> you internet over the tvc cable line stuff? 2016-08-31T22:13:57 < Steffanx> *tv 2016-08-31T22:14:10 < Rob235> yea, only thing available in my area 2016-08-31T22:14:26 < Rob235> had a triple play package (tv/internet/phone) but dropped it down to internet 2016-08-31T22:14:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@46.243.86.234] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2016-08-31T22:14:44 < Steffanx> Not really an issue right? The speeds are pretty decent, or not in the us? 2016-08-31T22:15:20 < Rob235> good enough for me, went from 75 Mbit which was fine to 150 2016-08-31T22:16:11 < Rob235> I'm fine with like anything over 40mbit 2016-08-31T22:17:04 < Rob235> when I eventually get a 4k TV that may change 2016-08-31T22:20:50 < Steffanx> i still dont see the need for that. Hardly any 4k content in the less legal world 2016-08-31T22:24:40 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T22:24:55 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2016-08-31T22:25:21 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T22:36:25 -!- owl-v- [~owl-v-@14.39.137.183] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2016-08-31T22:47:50 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T22:47:51 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-31T22:48:03 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-31T22:49:50 -!- kow_ [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T22:52:09 -!- k\o\w [~fffffff@CPE3085a93a4319-CM00fc8db094f0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2016-08-31T22:57:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T22:57:52 -!- Mr_Sheesh [~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2016-08-31T22:58:05 -!- Mr_Sheesh_ is now known as Mr_Sheesh 2016-08-31T23:07:56 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T23:09:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@93.85.45.212] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2016-08-31T23:16:56 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2016-08-31T23:18:10 -!- _stowa [~stowa@static.177.80.201.138.clients.your-server.de] has quit [K-Lined] 2016-08-31T23:20:55 -!- Steffann [uid181611@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ouiqsemmzjucedeo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2016-08-31T23:28:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [~IceChat9@2603:3023:50a:4600:f078:df02:3430:a039] has joined ##stm32 2016-08-31T23:37:12 < basepusher> Fleck: hi, i was taking a look at your example that you linked me yesterday http://pastebin.com/Hq9fF0pZ 2016-08-31T23:38:06 < basepusher> on line 21, this is setting the pin as an output with push-pull right? 2016-08-31T23:38:36 < basepusher> what resource do you use to figure out what value you should set the address to 2016-08-31T23:40:51 < basepusher> on my chip's data sheet i can see what address range matches with gpio pins, rcc for ahb1 bus. but how do i know what to actually set those ranges to 2016-08-31T23:42:33 -!- elektrinis-hme [~circuit@78.60.169.125] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2016-08-31T23:44:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a3b8d954.016-35-62726f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Sep 01 00:00:04 2016