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2017-09-01T00:14:24 < Steffanx> no, just no kakimir
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2017-09-01T00:22:49 < kakimir> I know Steffanx
2017-09-01T00:22:55 < kakimir> it's a no no
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2017-09-01T00:27:23 < kakimir> it's brainwashing essentially
2017-09-01T00:31:50 < Laurenceb__> lul Bristol
2017-09-01T00:32:06 < Laurenceb__> ok so looks like I can fit my usb sensor thingy in the old molds
2017-09-01T00:32:27 < Laurenceb__> 12.5mm diameter pcb using f042 tssop-20 looks doable
2017-09-01T00:32:36 < Laurenceb__>  "just" need away to do dfu
2017-09-01T00:39:42 < Laurenceb__> maybe magic audio data thats fed to it?
2017-09-01T00:40:56 < Steffanx> lolyou.
2017-09-01T00:40:56 < karlp> use usb properly.
2017-09-01T00:41:04 < Steffanx> ^
2017-09-01T00:41:08 < karlp> use an alternate config or a command ot reboot in dfu mode you numbnut
2017-09-01T00:41:53 < karlp> alternate config is probably sanest, but good luck you managing to get your descriptor right :)
2017-09-01T00:46:03 < Laurenceb__> then it needs an app to ping it
2017-09-01T00:46:09 < ohsix> PeterM: gnu rm won't rm / without --no-preserve-root
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2017-09-01T01:03:04 < Laurenceb__> hmm
2017-09-01T01:03:10 < Laurenceb__> there is a simple solution
2017-09-01T01:03:25 < Laurenceb__> just reset the usb port whilst the device is connected
2017-09-01T01:04:24 < Laurenceb__> unless that will kill st hal...
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2017-09-01T01:38:29 < devanagram> What's wrong with adding a control-request-only DFU interface to trigger DFU from something like dfu-util?
2017-09-01T01:53:13 < Laurenceb__> maybe...
2017-09-01T01:53:22 < Laurenceb__> what will it do most of the time?
2017-09-01T01:53:30 < Laurenceb__> OS ignores it?
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2017-09-01T02:07:27 < devanagram> Yeah, it's just a second interface that gets ignored normally. As long as you've declared yourself as a proper composite device with interface association descriptors, it should have no impact on the normal audio/serial/whatever driver.
2017-09-01T02:13:22 < Laurenceb__> woah
2017-09-01T02:13:28 < Laurenceb__> dfu spec is only 48 pages long
2017-09-01T02:26:35 < Laurenceb__> looks like usb reset whilst the device is running is already part of the spec
2017-09-01T02:28:13 < Laurenceb__> https://community.st.com/thread/26824
2017-09-01T02:29:04 < Laurenceb__> so prob just needs that + some way to set the magic sram location
2017-09-01T02:35:35 < Laurenceb__> holy shit
2017-09-01T02:35:37 < Laurenceb__> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/79167000/jpg/_79167164_79166701.jpg
2017-09-01T02:35:48 < Laurenceb__> just discovered who took the photo
2017-09-01T02:36:00 < Laurenceb__> ma waifu
2017-09-01T02:36:37 < Laurenceb__> had a job running social media for MPs
2017-09-01T02:36:39 < Laurenceb__>  _had_
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2017-09-01T02:38:40 < Thorn> does weendows support alternate configs?
2017-09-01T02:38:55 < Laurenceb__> who cares
2017-09-01T02:38:59 < Thorn> I got an impression that it basically doesn't
2017-09-01T02:39:13 < Laurenceb__> its not liek st actually works with dfu anyway
2017-09-01T02:39:26 < Laurenceb__> you need their weird custom tool
2017-09-01T02:39:57 < Laurenceb__> lul its true
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2017-09-01T02:40:21 < Laurenceb__> grrrl I used to *muh dick* got fired from her cushy job after flag gate
2017-09-01T02:40:42 < Laurenceb__> facebook stalking ftw
2017-09-01T02:43:31 < devanagram> You don't need an alternate config - it's just a second interface that gets a separate driver bound to it (getting that driver associated on Windows is another story)
2017-09-01T02:43:48 < devanagram> dfu-util also supports ST's extensions to DFU
2017-09-01T02:44:05 < Laurenceb__> ok
2017-09-01T02:44:08 < Laurenceb__> top wew https://i.pinimg.com/236x/28/af/bb/28afbb6c908814443ff512feb02c724c--the-sun-november.jpg
2017-09-01T02:44:40 < Laurenceb__> luckily I only want this to work on my dev machine
2017-09-01T02:45:02 < Laurenceb__> as the sensors will be encased in solid plastic
2017-09-01T02:51:42 < Laurenceb__> stop posting ur selfies
2017-09-01T02:52:10 < Laurenceb__> crt: I just discovered I dicked the grrrl responsible for https://i.pinimg.com/236x/28/af/bb/28afbb6c908814443ff512feb02c724c--the-sun-november.jpg
2017-09-01T02:52:33 < Laurenceb__> *facebook stalking intensifies*
2017-09-01T02:57:16 < Thorn> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/08/31/i-criticized-google-it-got-me-fired-thats-how-corporate-power-works/
2017-09-01T02:57:33 < Laurenceb__> ok DFU looks quite simple then
2017-09-01T02:58:15 < Laurenceb__> add the interface descriptor, then jump to bootloader in the control handler function when it gets DFU_DETACH
2017-09-01T03:06:22 < Laurenceb__> accurate -> https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11061123&cid=55119029
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2017-09-01T03:12:27 < devanagram> Laurenceb__: Yeah, that's all you need to do - it's great because you can switch to the bootloader, flash your firmware, and run the new firmware with a single command using dfu-util.
2017-09-01T03:12:33 < Thorn> what is this thing good for https://www.seeedstudio.com/Hamamatsu-C12880MA-MEMS-u-Spectrometer-and-Breakout-Board-p-2916.html
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2017-09-01T05:12:58 < englishman> Thorn: nice demonstation tho
2017-09-01T05:15:41 < Thorn> attn englishman https://www.instagram.com/p/BYd3-c7hOyt/
2017-09-01T05:15:49 < englishman> oh
2017-09-01T05:15:55 < englishman> i saw a bobcat crossing the street today
2017-09-01T05:16:02 < englishman> hide yo kittens, hide yo chickens
2017-09-01T05:40:24 < englishman> 😿
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2017-09-01T06:13:19 < englishman> i had a real innovator in the office today
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2017-09-01T06:28:40 < englishman> what cool thing is in your shop today curt
2017-09-01T06:29:03 < englishman> englishtronics?
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2017-09-01T06:33:42 < englishman> sell sell sell
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2017-09-01T06:38:15 < englishman> protip
2017-09-01T06:38:19 < englishman> have high humidity
2017-09-01T06:38:28 < englishman> then every surface is an esd safe surface
2017-09-01T06:38:40 < englishman> this one trick that electrical engineers dont want you to know
2017-09-01T06:40:49 < englishman> innovation time?
2017-09-01T06:43:01 < aandrew> 32mV across 270mOhm? I=V/R you know this
2017-09-01T06:44:13 < aandrew> you autismd all over the channel
2017-09-01T06:44:16 < aandrew> clean that shit up
2017-09-01T06:44:21 < englishman> whose law
2017-09-01T06:44:26 < englishman> ohms law
2017-09-01T06:45:43 < englishman> isnt there an app for that
2017-09-01T06:50:57 < ReadErr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quqvhM686UY
2017-09-01T06:51:02 < ReadErr> check the lode icon
2017-09-01T06:51:06 < ReadErr> load
2017-09-01T06:51:10 < ReadErr> lol
2017-09-01T06:51:53 < ReadErr> its amazing, fuck u
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2017-09-01T07:08:20 < Thorn> ugh they broke webdriver torso
2017-09-01T07:08:57 < Thorn> (the search result page for that phrase had special effects)
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2017-09-01T08:13:06 < ohsix> boop
2017-09-01T08:13:27 < ohsix> woah hahah
2017-09-01T08:13:42 < ohsix> highinbc is on the esp8266 channel
2017-09-01T08:14:04 < ohsix> .
2017-09-01T08:14:14 < ohsix> and the avr channel
2017-09-01T08:14:37 < englishman> hey o6
2017-09-01T08:14:43 < englishman> youre on twin peaks right
2017-09-01T08:15:42 < ohsix> yea
2017-09-01T08:15:51 < ohsix> i am the fbi
2017-09-01T08:16:28 < ohsix> putting up with annoying dougie shit for that long with a cheese payoff was awesome
2017-09-01T08:17:23 < englishman> eddie vedder was an immense surprise
2017-09-01T08:17:31 < englishman> this ep felt good
2017-09-01T08:17:31 < ohsix> yus
2017-09-01T08:17:33 < englishman> redeeming
2017-09-01T08:17:51 < ohsix> the music stuff at the end at all of them is a pretty chill idea
2017-09-01T08:18:29 < ohsix> a lot of the shit lynch was doing since twin peaks is music
2017-09-01T08:18:30 < englishman> lynch is better than tarantino like that
2017-09-01T08:19:11 < ohsix> not my bag but if these are some of his influences or what he wants to use to set the theme, it's all pretty awesome
2017-09-01T08:19:29 < ohsix> i think dougie's backyard was the location they filmed crazy clown time
2017-09-01T08:21:17 < ohsix> ok hah nope, actually checked, o well
2017-09-01T08:22:00 < ohsix> haven'r seen eric dare yet, i thought he was credited in some of the new episodes
2017-09-01T08:23:47 < ohsix> the female fbi agent is a singer too
2017-09-01T08:24:15 < ohsix> her performance is weird but it works
2017-09-01T08:24:41 < englishman> she's perfect
2017-09-01T08:24:42 < ohsix> did you notice she disappeared in the diane scene? :p
2017-09-01T08:24:45 < englishman> for the role
2017-09-01T08:25:06 < englishman> i did but the editing in general is utter shit
2017-09-01T08:25:17 < ohsix> i rewound to watch the balloon pop effect and the other agent was firing by himself
2017-09-01T08:25:23 < ohsix> huhuhu
2017-09-01T08:25:43 < ohsix> did you see the drummer in like the 3rd episode fuck up and throw his drumstick?
2017-09-01T08:27:22 < ohsix> they were smonking morley's in that episode too
2017-09-01T08:28:25 < ohsix> ah. part 5
2017-09-01T08:29:16 < ohsix> need to watch them all again, the density of the weirdness makes thinking about it weird
2017-09-01T08:31:12 < ohsix> the guy with the green glove
2017-09-01T08:31:22 < ohsix> it is a bunch of nonsense
2017-09-01T08:31:34 < ohsix> the tension in the first few episodes after that room
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2017-09-01T08:38:55 < ohsix> it is cool that you can even have weird interpretive commentary about stuff, it is very unusual it is on television
2017-09-01T08:39:45 < ohsix> everyone interesting is ending up in those jail cells too
2017-09-01T08:40:09 < ohsix> and the only one with no story to go with how they got in is that guy with the fucked up skull
2017-09-01T08:42:48 < englishman> dongs
2017-09-01T08:42:53 < englishman> <pro> my threadripper machine won't boot without a monitor plugged in :(
2017-09-01T08:43:02 < englishman> <pro> like no beep, doesn't leave POST
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2017-09-01T09:01:09 < ohsix> openshot is being a dick, will clip out drummer later
2017-09-01T09:02:01 < ohsix> i think this kind of shit is intentional, cuz people won't notice,  but i can't explain the missing fbi person in terms of that hehehe
2017-09-01T09:03:17 < ohsix> https://github.com/avr-rust/blink/blob/master/src/main.rs avr rust support isn't as cool as stm32
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2017-09-01T11:17:16 < ohsix> https://twitter.com/fabynou/status/903489102359572480
2017-09-01T11:21:34 < ohsix> (on the cover is the mountain from one of the skyboxes)
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2017-09-01T13:45:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-rzaRMAToc
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2017-09-01T14:04:08 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/mUZSWj9
2017-09-01T14:04:12 < Laurenceb_> im in jail dude
2017-09-01T14:07:00 < Steffanx> Ok bye \o/
2017-09-01T14:07:48 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/bVUuhXp
2017-09-01T15:14:45 < Rob235> anyone do android dev?
2017-09-01T15:15:08 < karlp> that's a bit more vague than I think you intend.
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2017-09-01T15:16:44 < Rob235> never looked at android code before, wondering how to pass text to another app using intents (probably pendingIntents) based on the the createChooser of the intent
2017-09-01T15:17:07 < Rob235> example, send text to sms app of the contact chosen in the createChooser
2017-09-01T15:17:27 < Rob235> sending the name of the chosen contact to the chosen contact
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2017-09-01T15:24:59 < karlp> pretty sure that's basic intent stuff.
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2017-09-01T16:27:26 < englishman> Laurenceb: thought police are on the case
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2017-09-01T17:04:03 < dongs> sup doges
2017-09-01T17:04:46 < karlp> planning what to do with the afternoon.
2017-09-01T17:05:34 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/apWCGXp.png ok so guiz what the shit am i doing wrong here
2017-09-01T17:05:57 < karlp> you got the encoding wrong of your font somewhere?
2017-09-01T17:06:13 < dongs> yeah, thats some bullshit chink protel schematic that I didnt make
2017-09-01T17:06:53 < dongs> but those are encoders, 74x138 is active low, default all outputs high, when selected, it makes one low, I set scan0..4 to choose that part and try reading DI0/DI1
2017-09-01T17:06:56 < dongs> and i get fuck all
2017-09-01T17:07:04 < aandrew> wtf are you doing there
2017-09-01T17:07:08 < aandrew> oh encoders
2017-09-01T17:07:14 < aandrew> I was like wtf are you doing with torroids
2017-09-01T17:07:15 < dongs> yeah just chink-multiplexed encoders
2017-09-01T17:07:20 < dongs> not my schematic
2017-09-01T17:07:23 < dongs> not my boar
2017-09-01T17:07:24 < dongs> d
2017-09-01T17:07:26 < dongs> trying to make it work
2017-09-01T17:07:35 < dongs> i would never use 138 shit, i would multiplex that shit with shift registers
2017-09-01T17:07:40 < dongs> liek smart fucking people
2017-09-01T17:07:59 < dongs> technically if DI0/1 are pullup at STM side
2017-09-01T17:08:03 < dongs> and i select say SD8
2017-09-01T17:08:15 < dongs> i should be able to read DI0/1 state as high or low if encoder is moving yea?
2017-09-01T17:08:30 < aandrew> I think so
2017-09-01T17:08:36 < dongs> H138 makes SD8 low when K1 is selected, for exampe
2017-09-01T17:08:51 < karlp> you got pullups on the DI pins?
2017-09-01T17:08:57 < dongs> well, internal MCUC ones
2017-09-01T17:08:59 < dongs> MCU
2017-09-01T17:09:06 < karlp> should be enough I guess.
2017-09-01T17:09:24 < karlp> don't know how your encoders work.
2017-09-01T17:09:26 < aandrew> what's it not doing
2017-09-01T17:09:34 < dongs> aandrew: not getting any values from it
2017-09-01T17:09:39 < dongs> always zero
2017-09-01T17:09:49 < dongs> i mean, DI0/1 IDR is always low.
2017-09-01T17:10:01 < aandrew> dongs: if you set one of 138 outputs low and watch the anode of v1/v2 do you see anything?
2017-09-01T17:10:08 < aandrew> I mean manually, not trying to mux
2017-09-01T17:10:25 < dongs> well i wont know until tomrorwo morning at hte office wiht scope
2017-09-01T17:10:33 < dongs> ive been away at another retard place without any equipment
2017-09-01T17:10:34 < aandrew> ah
2017-09-01T17:10:39 < dongs> for last 2 days
2017-09-01T17:10:44 < aandrew> in theory this looks like it should work. shitty but work
2017-09-01T17:12:39 < dongs> wait, looks liek DI0/1 IS pulled up to 3.3V with 4.7k
2017-09-01T17:12:44 < dongs> found them in another place on pcb
2017-09-01T17:13:02 < dongs> i only have a fucking layout for this, apparently chinks just made this shit by thrwoing random parts on a board and odnt have a matching schematic
2017-09-01T17:13:10 < aandrew> heh been there
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2017-09-01T17:17:19 < dongs> hmm.
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2017-09-01T17:34:34 < dongs> oh nice. found another cockup o this board
2017-09-01T17:34:38 < dongs> it went like this
2017-09-01T17:34:50 < dongs> china: here's this shit, we don't know if it works, please give firmware to test.
2017-09-01T17:35:09 < dongs> me: what is this garbage, also how can i give you firmware if this is the board I'm supposed to receive to develop firmware on
2017-09-01T17:35:22 < dongs> china: ok, here's .protel pcb. we have no schematic. please fix it.
2017-09-01T17:35:30 < dongs> i spend time fixing it (without schematic), send it back to them.
2017-09-01T17:35:42 < dongs> like 2 weeks later they s hit out a board, with shit obviously moved from where i put it
2017-09-01T17:35:51 < dongs> "why did you move my shit"
2017-09-01T17:35:56 < dongs> china> random excuses for wahtever
2017-09-01T17:36:19 < dongs> now i see they completely forgot to include 4bit LCD thing
2017-09-01T17:37:07 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/JXFMnon.png
2017-09-01T17:37:13 < dongs> i was looking for DI stuff and spotted this nearby
2017-09-01T17:37:22 < Rob235> blah, fuck android, back to drawbot
2017-09-01T17:37:53 < dongs> you coulda just ended at fuck android
2017-09-01T17:39:20 < Rob235> I always want to learn something new but I'm getting less and less patient about reading general documentation for shit
2017-09-01T17:39:35 < dongs> you talking about coding for fgtdrdoid?
2017-09-01T17:39:58 < dongs> shit's a  fucking clusterfuck
2017-09-01T17:40:02 < dongs> nobody does native coding anymore
2017-09-01T17:40:08 < Rob235> fgtdr?
2017-09-01T17:40:12 < dongs> its fucking crossplatform faggot libs + abstraction layers all over
2017-09-01T17:40:20 < dongs> i was reverse enginerring an app the other day
2017-09-01T17:40:26 < dongs> that does a SIMPLE BASIC FUCKING THING
2017-09-01T17:40:28 < dongs> it was written in "react"
2017-09-01T17:40:32 < dongs> which made it liek 10 megs
2017-09-01T17:40:39 < dongs> for something thats literally ~100 lines of functionality
2017-09-01T17:41:03 < Rob235> ive never used any of these popular frameworks, I usually do native shit
2017-09-01T17:41:33 < aandrew> yeah I have no concept of any of them either
2017-09-01T17:41:38 < Rob235> iOS I just used xcode and objective-C, I dont even know what this swift and other crap is
2017-09-01T17:42:43 < aandrew> I keep meaning to pick up some objc
2017-09-01T17:43:00 < Rob235> I wrote my one and only app in 2011 so I doubt I remember much
2017-09-01T17:43:08 < ReadErr> the new AR stuff
2017-09-01T17:43:14 < ReadErr> on iphone looks kewt
2017-09-01T17:43:38 < Rob235> ar framework?
2017-09-01T17:43:45 < Rob235> or specific software
2017-09-01T17:43:48 < ReadErr> yea, comes out official in ios11
2017-09-01T17:43:53 < dongs> who fucking cares
2017-09-01T17:43:57 < ReadErr> idk
2017-09-01T17:43:58 < dongs> shitphone8 is gonna be $1200
2017-09-01T17:44:01 < ReadErr> its 'the next big thing'
2017-09-01T17:44:05 < dongs> and retards are gonna queue from day be fore
2017-09-01T17:44:08 < aandrew> heh
2017-09-01T17:44:09 < ReadErr> that everyone wants but nobody needs
2017-09-01T17:44:15 < aandrew> I usually stay a gen or two back
2017-09-01T17:44:32 < ReadErr> 6s plus here still
2017-09-01T17:44:33 < aandrew> went 3G -> 4 ->5S -> SE
2017-09-01T17:44:45 < Rob235> my galaxy s4 was my first smartphone, then I got the s6 and I still barely use it, dont plan on upgrading for a while
2017-09-01T17:45:00 < ReadErr> ya androids are just worthless
2017-09-01T17:45:00 < aandrew> the major one was 3G -> 4, high PPI resolution screens are awesome
2017-09-01T17:45:02 < Rob235> had a 3g ipod touch before the s4 though
2017-09-01T17:45:07 < ReadErr> wouldnt recommend one
2017-09-01T17:45:50 < Rob235> its so hard to get where I want when I try to use my gf's iphone
2017-09-01T17:46:06 < Rob235> menu/ui navigation is much better on android
2017-09-01T17:46:11 < ReadErr>     pfffft
2017-09-01T17:46:18 < ReadErr> funny
2017-09-01T17:46:29 < Rob235> the physical back button is key
2017-09-01T17:46:39 < Rob235> perfect spot
2017-09-01T17:46:42 < ReadErr> why when you can just swipe
2017-09-01T17:46:50 < Rob235> that takes a lot of motion
2017-09-01T17:46:52 < Rob235> and reaching
2017-09-01T17:46:52 < ReadErr> which works perfect
2017-09-01T17:46:55 < ReadErr> uhh
2017-09-01T17:47:00 < Rob235> relatively
2017-09-01T17:47:01 < ReadErr> its way less than reaching down for a button
2017-09-01T17:47:10 < ReadErr> if you are in typing position
2017-09-01T17:47:19 < ReadErr> touch anywhere, slide
2017-09-01T17:47:20 < Rob235> thats where I usually have my thumb hanging around anyway
2017-09-01T17:47:21 < ReadErr> done
2017-09-01T17:47:30 < Rob235> oh I didnt know you could just slide like that, misread
2017-09-01T17:47:35 < Rob235> that helps i guess
2017-09-01T17:47:59 < ReadErr> and the battery last more than 2 days
2017-09-01T17:48:04 < ReadErr> which is also kewl
2017-09-01T17:48:57 < Rob235> I had a full charge on my s6 and drove about 80 min to the airport with the screen on and gps navigation and it died right when I got to the airport :P forgot a charging cable
2017-09-01T17:49:19 < dongs> faggots exchanging faggot tips
2017-09-01T17:49:37 < dongs> do you have any tips how to keep latest iphone stuck in your ass?
2017-09-01T17:49:38 < Rob235> I'll take your tip
2017-09-01T17:51:17 < c10ud^> lol
2017-09-01T17:52:36 < c10ud^> btw samsungs are kind of full of useless software, so you get a Ferrari with an heavy trailer
2017-09-01T17:54:01 < Rob235> yea, I remember when I first got the s4 and all the eye tracking and shit like that, it was disabled after a day
2017-09-01T17:54:40 < Rob235> wasteful gimmicks
2017-09-01T17:55:47 < ReadErr> they also feel stupid to hold
2017-09-01T17:55:54 < englishlad> beep dongs
2017-09-01T17:56:10 < englishlad> do you like this vhost [√] yes
2017-09-01T17:56:27 < ReadErr> readerror@very.legit.website
2017-09-01T17:56:31 < ReadErr> ^ better
2017-09-01T17:56:53 < englishman> you should really have mine it suits you better
2017-09-01T17:56:55 < englishman> :3
2017-09-01T17:57:20 < ReadErr> oh I got meangirl domains too
2017-09-01T17:59:31 < Rob235> why do they feel stupid to hold? I feel all phones are the same now, it depends more on the case than anything
2017-09-01T17:59:48 < ReadErr> failed.shop
2017-09-01T17:59:50 < Rob235> unless you dont use a case I guess
2017-09-01T18:00:07 < Rob235> but who does that
2017-09-01T18:00:29 < ReadErr> the s7 without a case
2017-09-01T18:00:31 < ReadErr> is useless
2017-09-01T18:01:13 < Laurenceb> has anyone here added a usb interface str in HAL?
2017-09-01T18:01:18 < Laurenceb> not sure what to edit...
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2017-09-01T18:01:36 < Laurenceb> add it in usbd_desc.c  ?
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2017-09-01T18:03:44 < englishman> i come into the office, cpu fan is on full speed
2017-09-01T18:03:47 < englishman> i dont even have to look anymore
2017-09-01T18:03:50 < englishman> its always irccloud
2017-09-01T18:04:35 < dongs> just switch to telegram
2017-09-01T18:04:38 < dongs> thats where all the pro chats happen
2017-09-01T18:04:55 < englishman> dong confirmed isis agent
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2017-09-01T18:08:07 < sync> haha dongs
2017-09-01T18:08:33 < sync> they still don't have e2e encryption in group chatz for whatever reason
2017-09-01T18:08:42 < dongs> yeah and irc does
2017-09-01T18:10:01 < sync> well, you can use ssl
2017-09-01T18:10:13 < dongs> its as secure as the server youre connecting to
2017-09-01T18:10:21 < dongs> which is arguably just as secure as telegram end servers
2017-09-01T18:11:16 < aandrew> wtf is irccloud
2017-09-01T18:11:26 < dongs> its irc that you PAY for
2017-09-01T18:11:30 < aandrew> for me it's 99%of the time slack
2017-09-01T18:11:34 < dongs> fuck slack
2017-09-01T18:11:37 < dongs> only faggots use that shit
2017-09-01T18:32:14 < emeb> take me to the pro chats
2017-09-01T18:32:15 < branjb> that checks out
2017-09-01T18:32:21 < branjb> slack is what all the gay SJW at schools use
2017-09-01T18:33:08 < branjb> slack is the new email for the generation that doesn't have the attention span to read an email
2017-09-01T18:33:46 < dongs> Lol
2017-09-01T18:34:10 < branjb> aandrew care to comment?
2017-09-01T18:34:27 < ReadErr> Know I don't, u fucking faget,don't be sending a middle age man  fucking dick pics,I wish I knew where u leave, cuz if I did I'll come whup ur pussy asd
2017-09-01T18:34:58 < dongs> emeb: all my pro STM32 chats on telegram are in arabic
2017-09-01T18:35:05 < dongs> ^_-
2017-09-01T18:35:07 < BrainDamage> sync: they don't have e2e encryption in 2 person chats either, as in their custom shitty protocol has been busted
2017-09-01T18:35:20 < dongs> gawd WHO CARES
2017-09-01T18:35:29 < dongs> who the fuck wants to know about my trolling
2017-09-01T18:35:32 < dongs> hint: noboddy
2017-09-01T18:35:32 < emeb> dongs: not surprising.
2017-09-01T18:35:49 < dongs> BrainDamage: do you really want your chats OMG SECURE
2017-09-01T18:35:56 < dongs> like, plz one valid reason why you would
2017-09-01T18:36:34 < BrainDamage> generally no, i had a couple times where i had to because i was passing login credentials to some expensive systems
2017-09-01T18:36:41 < tomeaton17> Why would you pay for irc
2017-09-01T18:36:55 < ReadErr> tomeaton17: you are
2017-09-01T18:37:01 < ReadErr> seems you are on a vps
2017-09-01T18:37:10 < BrainDamage> but honestly, probably normal ssl to server and back would've been fine
2017-09-01T18:37:20 < Laurenceb> attn dongs  http://imgur.com/U371QKR
2017-09-01T18:37:54 < tomeaton17> ReadErr: Well I already was using the VPS for my VPN so might aswell host a bouncer on there aswell
2017-09-01T18:38:26 < tomeaton17> ReadErr: But its caused alot of trouble because the vps provider I use is banned on all wikimedia channels lol
2017-09-01T18:40:00 < ReadErr> alright well either way, you pay somehow
2017-09-01T18:40:32 < dongs> > banned on all wikimedia channels lol
2017-09-01T18:40:35 < dongs> how is that a negative
2017-09-01T18:40:40 < dongs> kikepedia is fucking cancer
2017-09-01T18:40:56 < ReadErr> i heard those gaynigs been at it again
2017-09-01T18:41:11 < tomeaton17> I just don't like being banned from stuff
2017-09-01T18:41:12 < ReadErr> with ole wikipediallia
2017-09-01T18:41:18 < Laurenceb> were u cia?
2017-09-01T18:41:20 < tomeaton17> I don't actually use the channels
2017-09-01T18:41:33 < ReadErr> Laurenceb: wat happened to mah man T.Davis
2017-09-01T18:41:45 < Laurenceb> prob sectioned
2017-09-01T18:41:53 < tomeaton17> ReadErr: Yeah I guess I am paying but I would never pay someone else to setup IRC for me.
2017-09-01T18:41:54 < ReadErr> b& from yotube
2017-09-01T18:42:01 < ReadErr> tomeaton17: lol
2017-09-01T18:42:16 < ReadErr> well firstly, its more than them setting it up
2017-09-01T18:42:32 < ReadErr> its a hosted service
2017-09-01T18:42:39 < tomeaton17> How much does it cost?
2017-09-01T18:42:44 < ReadErr> 5$
2017-09-01T18:42:47 < ReadErr> or free
2017-09-01T18:43:36 < tomeaton17> I pay $2.60 for my vps and thats far more useful
2017-09-01T18:44:01 < ReadErr> good on u
2017-09-01T18:44:12 < tomeaton17> But for people who aren't familiar with linux it sounds good
2017-09-01T18:44:29 < ReadErr> still one of the best mobile clients
2017-09-01T18:44:44 < tomeaton17> But like it most cases its cheaper but harder to do it yourself
2017-09-01T18:45:20 < ReadErr> but i mean, i doubt you chat on my level
2017-09-01T18:45:26 < ReadErr> <~ hardchatter
2017-09-01T18:47:08 < tomeaton17> lol
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2017-09-01T18:48:15 < dongs> self-admitted famiilar wiht lunix, lol
2017-09-01T18:48:22 < sync> BrainDamage: well their seekrut chats seem to be fine
2017-09-01T18:49:20 < aandrew> slack is what several of my clients use. I don't mind it
2017-09-01T18:49:50 < tomeaton17> I use slack at work, its alright
2017-09-01T18:50:32 < karlp> slack was alright until they decided my browser was "too old" so they just blocked me completely
2017-09-01T18:50:50 < karlp> no option to have functional with less bells/whistles, just no longer allowed to use their service
2017-09-01T18:52:00 < aandrew> what I hate about what they did to slack was the "threads" idea - breaks the system entirely
2017-09-01T18:52:50 < ReadErr> god fuck slakc
2017-09-01T18:53:16 < ReadErr> @here hi
2017-09-01T18:53:21 < ReadErr> @here this is fun
2017-09-01T18:53:25 < karlp> aandrew: yeah, like, "let's make irc pretty" then all of a sudden "let's pretend it's email all of a sudden"
2017-09-01T18:53:37 < ReadErr> try that
2017-09-01T18:53:41 < ReadErr> people will love you
2017-09-01T18:53:56 < karlp> @ReadErr what, doesn't this highlight your nick properly?
2017-09-01T18:54:07 < karlp> it makes it feel more like twatter, what's not to like?
2017-09-01T18:54:10 < dongs> @FAGGOTERRROR
2017-09-01T18:54:11 < aandrew> heh
2017-09-01T18:54:15 < ReadErr> karlp: @here hits everyone
2017-09-01T18:54:17 < ReadErr> in the channel
2017-09-01T18:54:23 < aandrew> I'm gonna invite dongs to a few slack chans just for @FAGGOTERROR
2017-09-01T18:54:24 < ReadErr> its like snicks
2017-09-01T18:54:26 < ReadErr> or w/e
2017-09-01T18:56:53 < ReadErr> i cant stand the slack client
2017-09-01T18:57:01 < ReadErr> but the weenuschat shit is pretty okay
2017-09-01T18:58:48 < karlp> but what about :animated_gif_funny_name: ?
2017-09-01T18:59:54 < aandrew> I never worry about those
2017-09-01T19:00:01 < ReadErr> sell dope 💰 💸 fuck hoes 👩🏿 🙆🏿 rock ice 💠 💎 throwing up gang signs 👌🏿 🖕🏿 👐🏿  mob life ‼️
2017-09-01T19:00:01 < aandrew> and slack actually has an IRC bridge I haven't tried yet
2017-09-01T19:00:27 < ReadErr> yall got that skintone emoji yet?
2017-09-01T19:01:06 < tomeaton17> I like the emojis and the ones on github
2017-09-01T19:01:15 < tomeaton17> So you can get some dank commits
2017-09-01T19:01:43 < ReadErr> 💯
2017-09-01T19:02:05 < ReadErr> these are the github ones
2017-09-01T19:02:11 < ReadErr> but the newestish
2017-09-01T19:02:15 < tomeaton17> I always keep it 💯
2017-09-01T19:02:22 < ReadErr> you can have like 6 different skintones
2017-09-01T19:02:25 < ReadErr> or some crazy shit
2017-09-01T19:02:39 < ReadErr> so not all the smileys are yellow
2017-09-01T19:02:58 < ReadErr> itscol
2017-09-01T19:03:11 < englishman> aandrew: yeah fuck threads
2017-09-01T19:03:14 < englishman> they make no sense
2017-09-01T19:04:01 < englishman> also how the shit is slack a 4 billion dollar company
2017-09-01T19:04:19 < englishman> dongs should i watch "branded to kill"
2017-09-01T19:05:22 < ReadErr> u see the new kimdotcom
2017-09-01T19:05:25 < ReadErr> docu
2017-09-01T19:06:08 < englishman> link
2017-09-01T19:06:17 < englishman> i think i clicked but lost the window
2017-09-01T19:06:36 < ReadErr> erm
2017-09-01T19:06:42 < ReadErr> i dont have it avail
2017-09-01T19:07:21 < dongs> sounds boring
2017-09-01T19:07:27 < ReadErr> oh shit
2017-09-01T19:07:30 < ReadErr> narcos s03
2017-09-01T19:08:06 < englishman> that show was super boring
2017-09-01T19:08:19 < englishman> like, im sure escobar could have won all those battles if he wasnt staring into space 24/7
2017-09-01T19:08:20 < ReadErr> imma still watch it
2017-09-01T19:08:26 < ReadErr> f'da'bs
2017-09-01T19:09:55 < karlp> yeah, I didn't think narcos lived up to the hype at all.
2017-09-01T19:10:03 < dongs> ok fuck this, shit is not reading, need scope to see the fuck is going on
2017-09-01T19:10:05 < dongs> bedtime
2017-09-01T19:12:57 < aandrew> yeah slack isn't worth anywhere near that
2017-09-01T19:13:03 < aandrew> valuations are completely out of whack
2017-09-01T19:13:38 < karlp> what's new?
2017-09-01T19:15:56 < Laurenceb> Found Runtime: [0483:5740] ver=0200, devnum=42, cfg=1, intf=3, alt=0, name="Device Firmware Upgrade", serial="00000000001B"
2017-09-01T19:16:00 < Laurenceb> well that was easy
2017-09-01T19:17:11 < Laurenceb> dfu seems easy compared to audio
2017-09-01T19:24:47 < zyp> dfu is super easy
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2017-09-01T19:38:41 < englishman> unless you're intel
2017-09-01T19:38:43 < englishman> zyp
2017-09-01T19:38:54 < englishman> i had a pro ##stm32 chatter in the office imported from europe to fix my edisons
2017-09-01T19:39:13 < englishman> he typed this in the edison's rom bootloader console
2017-09-01T19:39:16 < englishman> setenv dfu_alt_info "ifwi${hardware_id} mmc 0 8192 mmcpart 1;ifwib${hardware_id} mmc 0 8192 mmcpart 2;u-boot0 part 0 1;u-boot-env0 part 0 2;u-boot1 part 0 3;u-boot-env1 part 0 4;boot part 0 7;rootfs part 0 8;update part 0 9;home part 0 10;vmlinuz fat 0 7;initrd fat 0 7"
2017-09-01T19:39:16 < englishman> setenv do_dfu_alt_info_ifwi 'setenv dfu_alt_info "ifwi${hardware_id} mmc 0 8192 mmcpart 1;ifwib${hardware_id} mmc 0 8192 mmcpart 2"'
2017-09-01T19:39:16 < englishman> setenv do_dfu_alt_info_mmc 'setenv dfu_alt_info "ifwi${hardware_id} mmc 0 8192 mmcpart 1;ifwib${hardware_id} mmc 0 8192 mmcpart 2;u-boot0 part 0 1;u-boot-env0 part 0 2;u-boot1 part 0 3;u-boot-env1 part 0 4;boot part 0 7;rootfs part 0 8;update part 0 9;home part 0 10;vmlinuz fat 0 7;initrd fat 0 7"'
2017-09-01T19:39:20 < englishman> and fixed the problem
2017-09-01T19:39:21 < englishman> YAY LUNIX
2017-09-01T19:40:20 < zyp> sounds about right
2017-09-01T19:40:35 < Laurenceb> lul
2017-09-01T19:40:38 < zyp> I recall doing something similar
2017-09-01T19:40:42 < Laurenceb> wtf is dfu-util doing
2017-09-01T19:40:56 < Laurenceb> p req->bRequest
2017-09-01T19:40:56 < Laurenceb> $17 = 11 '\v'
2017-09-01T19:40:59 < englishman> did you actually dick with edisons physcally
2017-09-01T19:41:02 < englishman> or just theoretically
2017-09-01T19:41:04 < Laurenceb> wut is that command?
2017-09-01T19:41:09 < zyp> englishman, physically
2017-09-01T19:41:12 < englishman> ah
2017-09-01T19:41:28 < zyp> I set up a whole openembedded thing to dick around with it
2017-09-01T19:41:32 < englishman> when intel deletes the edison forum, all is lost
2017-09-01T19:41:32 < zyp> even got it to work
2017-09-01T19:41:36 < englishman> cool
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2017-09-01T19:41:52 < zyp> so yeah, I did a bunch of dicking around with the bootloader
2017-09-01T19:42:25 < englishman> yeah i bet
2017-09-01T19:42:37 < englishman> did you have to deal with the "raw" device being renamed to "mmc" in newer versions
2017-09-01T19:42:45 < zyp> yes
2017-09-01T19:43:13 < englishman> nice
2017-09-01T19:43:58 < zyp> the problem with edison support is that it doesn't use the proper frameworks, it's just hacky patches that does their own thing
2017-09-01T19:44:09 < zyp> both in uboot and kernel
2017-09-01T19:44:23 < englishman> add resin on top of that
2017-09-01T19:44:28 < zyp> actually, upstream kernel had pretty good support last I checked
2017-09-01T19:44:39 < englishman> tho i have to say simply running configure-edison to set up wifi is nice
2017-09-01T19:44:41 < zyp> resin is all userland, not relevant
2017-09-01T19:44:56 < zyp> that said, resin doesn't seem so bad, I tried it
2017-09-01T19:45:03 < englishman> lunix only recently has nice tools for that, but they named it 5 random letters so its easy to forget
2017-09-01T19:45:09 < englishman> yes and no
2017-09-01T19:45:18 < englishman> it actually types login and password into console
2017-09-01T19:45:24 < englishman> so there is something running before login
2017-09-01T19:45:25 < zyp> but the container stuff kinda isolates your app from hardware stuff which is dumb
2017-09-01T19:45:27 < englishman> but yeah userland
2017-09-01T19:45:35 < englishman> well its just running docker
2017-09-01T19:46:03 < englishman> and they claim everything in /dev/ is symlinked
2017-09-01T19:47:56 < Laurenceb> are there extended dfu commands?
2017-09-01T19:48:11 < Laurenceb> this dfu-util command doesnt make much sense to me
2017-09-01T19:49:40 < devanagram> Do you have the dfu detach working? dfu-util -d your_vid:your_pid -e
2017-09-01T19:50:01 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/A9LEcXb2
2017-09-01T19:50:29 < Laurenceb> devanagram: yeah it detects the device and I can hit a breakpoint on the device once I get dfu commands
2017-09-01T19:50:40 < Laurenceb> but wtf is that command?
2017-09-01T19:50:52 < devanagram> I dunno, what command are you running with dfu-util?
2017-09-01T19:51:17 < Laurenceb> sudo dfu-util -d 0483:5740 -U dump
2017-09-01T19:51:19 < zyp> Laurenceb, every vendor seems to bastardize the DFU spec
2017-09-01T19:51:40 < Laurenceb> zyp: yeah - I see there is an ST mode in dfu-util
2017-09-01T19:51:49 < zyp> yes
2017-09-01T19:52:17 < Laurenceb> should I just look for stuff going into the dfu interface?
2017-09-01T19:52:38 < Laurenceb> I need a trigger to jump to the ST bootloader
2017-09-01T19:52:44 < devanagram> You need to switch it to the bootloader to do anything
2017-09-01T19:52:51 < Laurenceb> sure I know that much
2017-09-01T19:52:58 < Laurenceb> just need to write the trigger code
2017-09-01T19:53:07 < Laurenceb>  *just*
2017-09-01T19:53:09 < zyp> there's a control request to tell you to switch
2017-09-01T19:53:16 < Laurenceb> zyp: sure
2017-09-01T19:53:27 < devanagram> Yeah, if you use -U and send it to your normal device, it's going to ask it to send firmware back to the host.
2017-09-01T19:53:31 < Laurenceb> I was expecting DFU_DETACH
2017-09-01T19:54:02 < devanagram> It will do a detach if you pass in -e or if you give it your pid and the bootloader pid
2017-09-01T19:54:31 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-09-01T19:54:39 < devanagram> like dfu-util -d 0483:5740,0483:df11  -a 0 -s 0x08000000 -U foo.bin
2017-09-01T19:55:02 < Laurenceb> ok lets try
2017-09-01T19:55:08 < devanagram> Not 100% sure on that command since I changed it from a download command
2017-09-01T19:56:14 < Laurenceb>  p/x req->bRequest $26 = 0xb (gdb) p/x req->bmRequest $27 = 0x1
2017-09-01T19:56:15 < Laurenceb> same
2017-09-01T19:56:21 < Laurenceb> wtf is command 11
2017-09-01T19:56:35 < Laurenceb> it should be zero
2017-09-01T19:56:55 < Laurenceb> DFU_DETACH is 0 in the spec
2017-09-01T19:57:09 < Laurenceb> and the table only goes up to 6
2017-09-01T19:57:48 < devanagram> What do you get if you just do dfu-util -d 0483:5740 -e
2017-09-01T19:58:04 < devanagram> That just at most check the status and then send a detach request
2017-09-01T20:01:08 < Laurenceb> dfu-util: No DFU capable USB device available
2017-09-01T20:01:10 < Laurenceb> odd
2017-09-01T20:01:33 < Laurenceb> dfu-util -l detects it fine
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2017-09-01T20:05:04 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-09-01T20:05:14 < Laurenceb> it sends command 11 followed by command 3
2017-09-01T20:05:41 < Laurenceb> presumably doing some weird shit to check for bastardised protocols
2017-09-01T20:06:23 < Laurenceb> and dfu-util dies because my code is nonexistant - just some breakpoints in the usb lib codez
2017-09-01T20:10:25 < Laurenceb> ah ok it sends a bunch of shit
2017-09-01T20:10:34 < Laurenceb> wow what a clusterfuck dfu must be
2017-09-01T20:10:42 < Laurenceb> k works now anyway
2017-09-01T20:10:47 < devanagram> Any chance you gave your DFU interface a weird alternate setting?
2017-09-01T20:11:07 < Laurenceb> nah its just that the correct commands are in with a bunch of random shit
2017-09-01T20:18:44 < devanagram> I'm not very familiar with ST's USB stack - are you sure that you're only routing DFU class requests to your code, and not other standard USB requests?
2017-09-01T20:21:22 < jadew`> home decap: http://188.25.73.7/stuff/20170901_201716.jpg
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2017-09-01T20:22:12 < jadew`> not really a decap tho, it was more of a "getting to the die"
2017-09-01T20:22:21 < jadew`> but it worked on first try
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2017-09-01T20:27:11 < Steffanx> First baby steps jadew` :)
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2017-09-01T20:28:43 < jadew`> it's gonna take a while for the next steps, because I only needed to get into this one :)
2017-09-01T20:28:50 < englishman> cool
2017-09-01T20:29:00 < jadew`> I had to confirm that it's original, in order to figure out if my design was flawed or the IC
2017-09-01T20:29:20 < jadew`> sadly, it's original
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2017-09-01T20:38:40 < Laurenceb> Bus 001 Device 057: ID 0483:df11 STMicroelectronics STM Device in DFU Mode
2017-09-01T20:38:43 < Laurenceb> i liek dis
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2017-09-01T20:42:48 < Steffanx> *Cheers*
2017-09-01T20:47:49 < englishman> 🍻
2017-09-01T20:51:19 < englishman> typical Laurenceb activity https://i.imgur.com/q5fSpYU.gifv
2017-09-01T20:53:04 < Laurenceb> impressive stamina
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2017-09-01T21:03:33 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/XYX1DyCB
2017-09-01T21:03:46 < Laurenceb> the errors are slightly concerning
2017-09-01T21:09:15 < devanagram> I think ST's DfuSe bootloader always starts out in an error state.
2017-09-01T21:09:42 < devanagram> Maybe I'll get bored one day and look through the ROM to find out if there's a good reason for that.
2017-09-01T21:11:01 < Laurenceb> heh
2017-09-01T21:11:36 < Laurenceb> yeah but "dfu-util: error detaching" suggests something is not quite right
2017-09-01T21:12:05 < Laurenceb> maybe it expects some sort of response to all the weird undocumented commands
2017-09-01T21:12:26 < devanagram> Oh, I didn't see that bit. Did you immediately reset when receiving the request or did you let the stack finish responding to the DFU detach control request with an ACK?
2017-09-01T21:13:08 < Laurenceb> ooh good point
2017-09-01T21:13:11 < devanagram> There are also some descriptor fields that control whether dfu-util expects the device to reset itself or if it needs a USB bus reset.
2017-09-01T21:13:12 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-09-01T21:13:18 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-09-01T21:13:52 < Laurenceb> I should probably reset from elsewhere after a short delay
2017-09-01T21:14:04 < Laurenceb> actually this is discussed in the spec :P
2017-09-01T21:37:41 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/fuBQBHW.png
2017-09-01T21:37:46 < englishman> someone asked me to make this
2017-09-01T21:37:48 < englishman> should i
2017-09-01T21:46:35 < Laurenceb> unsupported control request
2017-09-01T21:46:38 < Laurenceb> apparently
2017-09-01T21:46:58 < Laurenceb> lel englishman
2017-09-01T21:47:48 < sync> yes englishman when the moni is right
2017-09-01T21:48:00 < englishman> look closely
2017-09-01T21:48:28 < sync> yes, ofc
2017-09-01T21:49:41 < Steffanx> Still when the monney is right :P
2017-09-01T21:49:44 < Steffanx> i would do it.
2017-09-01T21:50:03 < Laurenceb> hmm apparently my device sends a stall
2017-09-01T21:50:05 < Laurenceb> weird
2017-09-01T21:51:51 < englishman> fucking SAM3X
2017-09-01T21:52:01 < englishman> requires level shifter for I2C because it has zero 5-tolerant pins
2017-09-01T21:52:15 < Steffanx> Who made you use it?
2017-09-01T21:52:25 < englishman> paying client
2017-09-01T21:52:33 < Steffanx> Fuck them, was it the cheapest?
2017-09-01T21:55:41 < englishman> no
2017-09-01T21:55:42 < englishman> tarduino
2017-09-01T21:56:57 < Steffanx> ok..
2017-09-01T22:02:33 < Laurenceb> 5v logic
2017-09-01T22:02:44 < Laurenceb> who would use such stuff in THE CURRENT YEAR
2017-09-01T22:02:49 < englishman> they arent
2017-09-01T22:02:53 < Laurenceb> I bet the patriarchy would
2017-09-01T22:02:56 < englishman> only part of this system is bring upgraded to tarduino
2017-09-01T22:04:31 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/AWdjRfNR
2017-09-01T22:04:34 < Laurenceb> epin pwn
2017-09-01T22:06:14 < Laurenceb> only fail is the st codez
2017-09-01T22:06:37 < Laurenceb> or more likely dfu-util doing crazy shit scanning for undocumented commands
2017-09-01T22:21:02 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-4GkdupfTw
2017-09-01T22:21:05 < Laurenceb> lulling hard
2017-09-01T22:21:12 < englishman> not clicking
2017-09-01T22:22:20 < Laurenceb> maybe I should set up a youtube troll channel
2017-09-01T22:22:27 < Laurenceb> would probably get intab&
2017-09-01T22:22:33 < Laurenceb> *instab&
2017-09-01T22:23:18 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB4znOVsfnA
2017-09-01T22:25:35 < Laurenceb> 7M views O_o
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2017-09-01T22:54:28 < kakimir> interview with tyson was hard to watch
2017-09-01T22:55:15 < Fleck>  how come?
2017-09-01T22:56:26 < Laurenceb> I turned off cuz the cringe was too much
2017-09-01T22:58:10 < kakimir> same
2017-09-01T22:58:18 < kakimir> trying to forget
2017-09-01T22:58:34 < Steffanx> You shouldnt have opened the link in the first place.
2017-09-01T22:58:55 < kakimir> I blame Laurenceb
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2017-09-01T23:00:55 < Steffanx> You can no longer blame Laurenceb for this kakimir. Its all on you.
2017-09-01T23:02:10 < kakimir> I know
2017-09-01T23:02:32 < Steffanx> Got your cpl yet?
2017-09-01T23:05:09 < kakimir> no
2017-09-01T23:06:08 < kakimir> I did inspection to my car today
2017-09-01T23:06:34 < kakimir> repairs require work on all 4 corners
2017-09-01T23:08:03 < Steffanx> What car do you have?
2017-09-01T23:08:28 < kakimir> audi a4 b6
2017-09-01T23:09:07 < sync> > aude
2017-09-01T23:09:10 < sync> > no rs4 b5
2017-09-01T23:09:12 < sync> pls
2017-09-01T23:11:26 < kakimir> I use audi as cheap ride
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2017-09-01T23:19:59 < kakimir> someone I know had audi rs4 b6
2017-09-01T23:20:34 < kakimir> or whatever the code for avant is
2017-09-01T23:22:14 < kakimir> car is now for 4years been standing outside
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2017-09-01T23:25:18 < kakimir> better uses for 10k than new engine for a car
2017-09-01T23:25:24 < kakimir> *third
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2017-09-01T23:35:52 < ohsix> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIqKbdmUEAAM1TU.jpg:large
2017-09-01T23:37:49 < englishman> what kind of work kaks
2017-09-01T23:37:56 < englishman> i was looking at audis a couple weeks ago
2017-09-01T23:38:00 < englishman> decided to keep the lulvo
2017-09-01T23:44:29 < kakimir> dogbones in front
2017-09-01T23:44:40 < kakimir> brakepads in all
2017-09-01T23:45:14 < kakimir> back springs
2017-09-01T23:45:32 < kakimir> rubber for wheel axle thing
2017-09-01T23:45:35 < kakimir> front
2017-09-01T23:46:24 < kakimir> I misused it by having another side in a hole whole winter and another side the spring gave away
2017-09-01T23:46:44 < kakimir> I thought it died but it actually made it to snap
2017-09-01T23:47:07 < kakimir> wheel hole in the ground
2017-09-01T23:47:43 < kakimir> audi eats all those arms that keeps wheels in place at constant rate
2017-09-01T23:48:29 < kakimir> but I have done most of them to front already
2017-09-01T23:50:30 < englishman> just replace all that crap yourself and take it for 50€ alignment
2017-09-01T23:51:36 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-01T23:51:51 < sync> kakimir: interesting, but new rs4 engines are not 10k
2017-09-01T23:51:56 < sync> at least not in germoney
2017-09-01T23:52:07 < kakimir> and buy ball joint tool before replacing all that crap
2017-09-01T23:52:14 < kakimir> not afterwards like me
2017-09-01T23:52:20 < kakimir> it's 10eur
2017-09-01T23:52:31 < englishman> just put the nut on and use hammer
2017-09-01T23:52:33 < englishman> dont need stupid tool
2017-09-01T23:52:43 < kakimir> the tool is the shit
2017-09-01T23:52:57 < kakimir> for removal
2017-09-01T23:53:27 < englishman> oh wait those are the bolt-captive ones
2017-09-01T23:53:31 < englishman> just hammer
2017-09-01T23:53:53 < kakimir> have you done it?
2017-09-01T23:53:59 < englishman> long ago
2017-09-01T23:54:14 < kakimir> whole thing is suspended in rubber
2017-09-01T23:54:20 < kakimir> in every direction
2017-09-01T23:54:24 < englishman> i think last time i touched audi was 2006-7
2017-09-01T23:55:06 < kakimir> try to deliver powerful enoght blows in there when you have 10cm space to move your hammer
2017-09-01T23:55:12 < englishman> you dont replace the ball joint you replace the whole arm
2017-09-01T23:55:18 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-01T23:55:24 < englishman> use big hammer and big man hands
2017-09-01T23:55:32 < englishman> chop more wood then go work on car with big man hands
2017-09-01T23:55:38 < englishman> itl come out
2017-09-01T23:56:34 < englishman> then you can upgrade to RS4 BALL JOINTS and post about it on vwvortex.com
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2017-09-02T00:00:24 < ohsix> car sirs
2017-09-02T00:10:25 < kakimir> englishman: I use machine to cut and chop wood for me
2017-09-02T00:10:39 < kakimir> axe is no competition
2017-09-02T00:14:58 < englishman> https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/product-files/1944/TB6612FNG+datasheet.pdf
2017-09-02T00:15:07 < englishman> page 3, "4.5 V > VM ≥ 2.5 V Without PWM Operation"
2017-09-02T00:15:28 < englishman> do you think this means PWM isn't guaranteed in this voltage range, or that that is the max current without PWM
2017-09-02T00:16:49 < ohsix> i think it means 100% duty cycle as just some sort of driver
2017-09-02T00:17:24 < ohsix> er, that means max current withotu pwm
2017-09-02T00:18:01 < ohsix> so the voltage being clamped in the spec implies less disappationshits too
2017-09-02T00:18:12 < ohsix> they're saying don't use over 4.5v either, and you only et 400ma
2017-09-02T00:19:26 < ohsix> it's a concise, but a little obtuse way of putting that information in there
2017-09-02T00:19:55 < ohsix> is that for a motor controller in an optical drive?
2017-09-02T00:20:04 < englishman> its a motor controller yes
2017-09-02T00:20:19 < ohsix> they usually have wings for higher average power & lower Tc
2017-09-02T00:32:10 < ohsix> Tj? what's the one that's delta between case and die temperature
2017-09-02T00:33:44 < zyp> R_thJC?
2017-09-02T00:33:48 < ohsix> R(thermal resistance) jc (junction to case)
2017-09-02T00:33:48 < ohsix> ya
2017-09-02T00:36:09 < karlp> englishman: why do you have i2c at 5V anyway?
2017-09-02T00:36:19 < englishman> well a) old crap
2017-09-02T00:36:32 < englishman> b) its a i2c-to-gpio thing and the gpios are the same voltage as the i2c
2017-09-02T00:38:13 < ohsix> my big bag of aliexpress car lights has mostly showed up, need to get an electronic blinker module for them to not go nuts
2017-09-02T00:38:18 < ohsix> but the brake lights are swish af
2017-09-02T00:38:39 < ohsix> electronic blinker relays are really cheap, some have a potentiometer for adjusting the rate or beep volume too
2017-09-02T00:39:18 < ohsix> refit for entire car even with the relay cost is like 5$ :D
2017-09-02T00:42:34 < ohsix> huh the relay on the car is complicated, it's got diagrams for all the bulbs and their proper arrangement and shit
2017-09-02T00:45:50 < ohsix> i can disassemble the connector and use the spade connectors from it, or i can make short leads to adapt, latter is pro move amirite
2017-09-02T00:47:12 < ohsix> guy just came in for a meeting and wants a quack medical device built
2017-09-02T00:47:15 < ohsix> 'remodulates brain waves'
2017-09-02T00:47:59 < ohsix> and the reason nobody has heard of it, even thoguh it has no side effects, is because 'you can't patent it like a pill'
2017-09-02T00:48:11 < ohsix> already hit the bingo card 10 ways
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2017-09-02T00:50:44 < ohsix> huh the relay in the car is already sort of electronic, there's at least one transistor in there, i think it's for doing current measurement on half the blinker legs, so it will blink faster when you have a bulb out
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2017-09-02T00:51:08 < ohsix> it may work if i'm sure to replace all the bulbs at the same time
2017-09-02T00:51:33 < ohsix> hoax medicine guy says he's using hoax medical devices on patients
2017-09-02T00:51:39 < ohsix> and he's talking about patients
2017-09-02T00:51:41 < ohsix> :O
2017-09-02T00:53:19 < ohsix> and he sold the device to one patient directly
2017-09-02T00:54:41 < ohsix> 'increased your alpha wave, decrease your delta and theta' ugh haha this has to be some sort of malpractice
2017-09-02T00:56:20 < ohsix> i may have to go to lunch early to not start some shit
2017-09-02T00:59:32 < ohsix> https://imgur.com/gallery/BbdiM external and internal shots of that relay
2017-09-02T01:00:39 < ohsix> quack dude just said you 'turn it down until you can't feel it, because it is annoying'
2017-09-02T01:00:46 < ohsix> venturing into other quack medicine areas
2017-09-02T01:04:13 < jadew`> lol @ the comment
2017-09-02T01:06:24 < ohsix> one of you guys' leave the first comment? it is excellent.
2017-09-02T01:08:08 < ohsix> guy is talking about 'lump sum' and random people sending them patients, i think we're entering an area where we'll be complicit with medical malpractice
2017-09-02T01:18:32 < englishman> hm, PCA9306 or TXS0102
2017-09-02T01:20:28 < karlp> https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/903737714947878912
2017-09-02T01:20:52 < karlp> actually something we dont' have much of in zypsnips, so... you ttell us :)
2017-09-02T01:21:21 < englishman> TXS0102 looks more normal
2017-09-02T01:35:07 < kakimir> I need an assortment of measurement pins for dc plugs etc. any idea how to find such?
2017-09-02T01:35:30 < englishman> search your cutlery drawer at home, find something that fits
2017-09-02T01:36:21 < kakimir> no
2017-09-02T01:36:36 < englishman> http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/scyb018h/scyb018h.pdf
2017-09-02T01:36:39 < englishman> PCA is not in this doc
2017-09-02T01:38:39 < kakimir> I need like proper precision pins
2017-09-02T01:38:49 < kakimir> maybe thats the word>
2017-09-02T01:39:24 < kakimir> okay precision drill bits.. now we are going
2017-09-02T01:47:53 < englishman> going with pca9306
2017-09-02T01:48:04 < englishman> dono why
2017-09-02T01:48:05 < englishman> feels good
2017-09-02T01:48:12 < englishman> tired of looking at this
2017-09-02T01:50:18 < jadew`> am I the only one who chases mosquitos with the butane torch?
2017-09-02T01:52:01 < kakimir> you hate them then?
2017-09-02T01:52:31 < jadew`> I don't like to squash them
2017-09-02T01:53:02 < jadew`> they don't want to stay put so I can cleanly squash them between two pieces of toilet paper and I don't want them on my walls
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2017-09-02T01:55:07 < jadew`> when I was more agile I was hunting them with a rubber band, but I don't have that much free time now
2017-09-02T01:55:18 < jadew`> hitting them mid air takes both practice and patience
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2017-09-02T01:57:00 < kakimir> you know programming
2017-09-02T01:57:02 < kakimir> laser them
2017-09-02T01:57:09 < jadew`> haha
2017-09-02T01:57:12 < kakimir> actual thing
2017-09-02T01:57:36 < kakimir> there are laser turrets to destroy flying insects
2017-09-02T01:58:01 < jadew`> sounds cool
2017-09-02T01:58:07 < kakimir> and you can pick what you want to destroy too and it leaves other insects alone
2017-09-02T01:58:30 < jadew`> how does it know?
2017-09-02T01:59:00 < kakimir> it images it and determines it size and flapping frequency
2017-09-02T01:59:32 < jadew`> neat
2017-09-02T01:59:37 < kakimir> then fire or search next
2017-09-02T01:59:47 < jadew`> so much technology targetting the unsuspecting insect
2017-09-02T02:01:01 < kakimir> it destroys multiple insects in a second
2017-09-02T02:01:35 < kakimir> and I bet if they paid effort they could get mad firerate
2017-09-02T02:02:13 < jadew`> yeah, I was thinking that it would be a cool light show to have it running outside
2017-09-02T02:02:23 < kakimir> it's IR
2017-09-02T02:02:29 < kakimir> you can not see it running
2017-09-02T02:02:31 < jadew`> but I bet it would misidentify a lot of insects
2017-09-02T02:02:34 < jadew`> ah
2017-09-02T02:04:28 < kakimir> if there was any advanced computer vision it would not misidentify
2017-09-02T02:04:43 < kakimir> now it's just size and flapping rate
2017-09-02T02:13:06 < kakimir> when I grow up my automated mansion will have such systems around the perimeter
2017-09-02T02:14:25 < jadew`> you can have it burn your logo into the skin of intruders
2017-09-02T02:14:45 < jadew`> then you can identify them like marked bills
2017-09-02T02:15:24 < jadew`> on the forehead
2017-09-02T02:15:57 < kakimir> oh
2017-09-02T02:16:10 < kakimir> I thought I would just blow them up with it
2017-09-02T02:16:18 < kakimir> but that is more.. nice
2017-09-02T02:16:25 < jadew`> then, as punishment you can remove their tattoos
2017-09-02T02:18:19 < jadew`> I wonder if you can do that just to fuck around with someone
2017-09-02T02:18:40 < jadew`> you install a machine that recognizes him and one of his tattoos and then earase a little bit of it every day
2017-09-02T02:18:58 < kakimir> you can erase clothing with laser too
2017-09-02T02:18:58 < jadew`> or better yet, reshape it into something else
2017-09-02T02:19:12 < jadew`> sure, if you keep it on long enough
2017-09-02T02:19:13 < marble_visions> jadew: yeah, it's checkmate when they're full and on the wall
2017-09-02T02:20:35 < marble_visions> i've stopped plugging an evaporator that keeps them at bay for a week, and it's an all you can eat buffet
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2017-09-02T02:21:35 < marble_visions> i just hope the turret doesn't laser a mosquito off my face
2017-09-02T02:21:46 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/ztbURHm
2017-09-02T02:21:48 < jadew`> lol
2017-09-02T02:21:57 < Laurenceb_> *x-files music*
2017-09-02T02:22:26 < jadew`> what's that?
2017-09-02T02:22:44 < Laurenceb_> suspicious van in UK streetview
2017-09-02T02:23:04 < Laurenceb_> mil numberplate and weird shit on outside
2017-09-02T02:23:20 < marble_visions> and the barbed wire on the right..
2017-09-02T02:23:32 < marble_visions> razorwire*
2017-09-02T02:23:38 < marble_visions> if that's what it is
2017-09-02T02:23:43 < kakimir> antennas on roof?
2017-09-02T02:24:06 < Laurenceb_> clearly for alien autopsies
2017-09-02T02:31:45 < Laurenceb_> I walked past games workshop this evening
2017-09-02T02:31:57 < Laurenceb_> never knew there were so many loser nerds
2017-09-02T02:32:32 < Laurenceb_> there must have been >200
2017-09-02T02:33:47 < Laurenceb_> I think there was a grrrl in there too, shocking
2017-09-02T02:40:14 < marble_visions> what's a games workshop?
2017-09-02T02:40:27 < marble_visions> tabletop games club?
2017-09-02T02:40:32 < Laurenceb_> yes
2017-09-02T02:40:59 < marble_visions> there are a lot of causal fun games
2017-09-02T02:41:06 < marble_visions> you don't have to be a die hard DND
2017-09-02T02:42:53 < marble_visions> don't know how it's in the UK though, you have tabletops in pubs
2017-09-02T02:43:04 < marble_visions> so you can just go there
2017-09-02T02:45:18 < Laurenceb_> this was 100% hardcore DND
2017-09-02T02:45:29 < Laurenceb_> and 95% barely mobile fatties
2017-09-02T02:46:15 < marble_visions> oh
2017-09-02T02:47:22 < marble_visions> dude
2017-09-02T02:47:39 < marble_visions> games workshop publish warhammer
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2017-09-02T02:47:51 < marble_visions> okay so they're pretty big
2017-09-02T02:52:00 < englishman> !wz orinda
2017-09-02T02:52:02 < dieforirc> [Orinda, California] Clear. Temp is 42.7°C.
2017-09-02T02:52:43 < jadew`> !wz bucharest
2017-09-02T02:52:44 < dieforirc> [Bucharest, Romania] Clear. Temp is 17.5°C. SSW wind: 1.9 kph. Humidity: 78%.
2017-09-02T02:52:52 < kakimir> is there such virtual machine function that could make virtual machines to appear as sort of desktops you can swipe left-right direction
2017-09-02T02:52:56 < kakimir> ?
2017-09-02T02:53:08 < kakimir> !wz EFKU
2017-09-02T02:53:10 < dieforirc> [EFKU, Finland] Clear. Temp is 9°C. West wind: 7 kph. Humidity: 93%.
2017-09-02T02:53:13 < jadew`> swipe left-right?
2017-09-02T02:53:35 < jadew`> ah, so you can go through the VMs?
2017-09-02T02:53:41 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2017-09-02T02:53:41 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-02T02:53:48 < kakimir> multiple of them
2017-09-02T02:53:49 < Laurenceb_> fashwave is actually good
2017-09-02T02:53:52 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbto2Ty7aLg
2017-09-02T02:55:53 < kakimir> you are late Laurenceb_
2017-09-02T02:55:55 < kakimir> Lastlog:
2017-09-02T02:55:55 < kakimir> 00:18 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxARYmac2ZQ
2017-09-02T02:57:29 < kakimir> spring or early summer iirc
2017-09-02T03:02:09 < kakimir> did you get it from feed?
2017-09-02T03:02:35 < kakimir> just currious if the neuronetwork has sychronized our accounts
2017-09-02T03:02:48 < kakimir> xurious actualy
2017-09-02T03:02:56 < kakimir> *actually
2017-09-02T03:03:56 < marble_visions> kakimir might be possible with virtualbox in gnome
2017-09-02T03:04:10 < marble_visions> fullscreen all VMs on different workspaces
2017-09-02T03:04:14 < marble_visions> then change workspaces
2017-09-02T03:04:29 < marble_visions> works on my machine
2017-09-02T03:04:32 < kakimir> I use windows
2017-09-02T03:04:45 < marble_visions> 7?
2017-09-02T03:05:11 < kakimir> 10
2017-09-02T03:05:30 < marble_visions> so desktop change doesn't propagate inside the vm?
2017-09-02T03:05:50 < marble_visions> with or without guest additions?
2017-09-02T03:09:01 < kakimir> I mean I have my windows desktop and when I need VMs I would hit some shortcut key combination and VM would roll from right to left and replace my windows desktop
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2017-09-02T03:09:36 < kakimir> and when I hit another shortcut key combination it would roll back left to right to actual host
2017-09-02T03:12:14 < kakimir> basically key switching between host and guests with graphical effect
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2017-09-02T03:59:16 < englishman> https://www.juicero.com/company-news/
2017-09-02T03:59:21 < aandrew> yeah I just read that
2017-09-02T03:59:24 < englishman> lol
2017-09-02T03:59:25 < aandrew> big fucking surprise
2017-09-02T04:00:26 < aandrew> balls, I can't find sediv (seagate drive recovery tool) that isn't passworded with the passowrd hanging of a dead URL
2017-09-02T04:02:12 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/9TRnEuQ
2017-09-02T04:02:14 < Laurenceb_> lulling
2017-09-02T04:03:55 < aandrew> lol google: http://imgur.com/oOYyamb
2017-09-02T04:04:34 < Laurenceb_> my sides
2017-09-02T04:10:04 < englishman> aandrew:
2017-09-02T04:10:04 < englishman> PCA9306 or TXS0102
2017-09-02T04:10:08 < englishman> or just put some nfets
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2017-09-02T04:10:12 < englishman> for i2c shifting
2017-09-02T04:10:36 < aandrew> englishman: wut
2017-09-02T04:10:56 < englishman> 3v3-5v i2c
2017-09-02T04:12:18 < aandrew> oh
2017-09-02T04:12:20 < aandrew> I've used both
2017-09-02T04:12:23 < aandrew> no complaints of either
2017-09-02T04:12:27 < englishman> gr8
2017-09-02T04:12:28 < englishman> thx
2017-09-02T04:12:33 < englishman> nxp actually says just put nfets
2017-09-02T04:12:37 < englishman> and they also make shifters
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2017-09-02T04:13:14 < aandrew> IIRC the PCA is specific for I2c
2017-09-02T04:13:19 < englishman> yes
2017-09-02T04:14:26 < englishman> ok thx
2017-09-02T04:14:28 < englishman> placed PCA
2017-09-02T04:15:01 < englishman> got txb0108 for the pushpull signals
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2017-09-02T04:23:15 < Laurenceb_> >puncture hyperloop
2017-09-02T04:23:20 < Laurenceb_> >everyone dies
2017-09-02T04:23:30 < Laurenceb_> >rename it the holocoaster
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2017-09-02T05:07:42 < dongs> < englishman> https://www.juicero.com/company-news/
2017-09-02T05:07:43 < dongs> lmao
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2017-09-02T05:45:46 < dongs> man what the fuck
2017-09-02T05:45:51 < dongs> looking at this encoder shit on scope
2017-09-02T05:45:58 < dongs> its even more fucjed and i have no idea whats going on
2017-09-02T05:46:05 < dongs> hc138 is selected correctly
2017-09-02T05:46:24 < dongs> but di0/1 stuff has weird noise all over it
2017-09-02T05:46:39 < dongs> and its like 1V above gnd at most
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2017-09-02T06:10:11 < dongs> seelct output before 220R resistor: looks fine, clean square wave
2017-09-02T06:10:19 < dongs> select output after 220R: barely rising 1V
2017-09-02T06:10:23 < dongs> looks noisy s shit
2017-09-02T06:10:25 < dongs> what the hell
2017-09-02T06:10:55 < dieforirc> maybe the switch is highz
2017-09-02T06:11:00 < dieforirc> can only pass 1ma or something
2017-09-02T06:12:16 < dongs> ive desoldered the hc138
2017-09-02T06:12:26 < dongs> so theoretically it should be just a open trace all the way to it
2017-09-02T06:12:34 < dongs> measuing A1/A2 it looks normal square wave
2017-09-02T06:12:37 < dongs> its just teh A0 thats fucked
2017-09-02T06:12:54 < dongs> hmm.
2017-09-02T06:16:50 < dongs> wtf the 0804 resistor network has some huge resistance
2017-09-02T06:17:14 < dongs> on just that ONE pin
2017-09-02T06:17:15 < dongs> ...
2017-09-02T06:18:15 < englishlad> problem exists between dicknplace and chair
2017-09-02T06:18:29 < dongs> not my board
2017-09-02T06:21:27 < dongs> ive never fucking seen a defective resistor network
2017-09-02T06:21:30 < dongs> this is ridiculous
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2017-09-02T06:24:21 < Thorn> 3 hours 30 min till the end of the sale on aliexpress
2017-09-02T06:28:14 < dongs> looks like the chinks stripped one of the pads from resistor network
2017-09-02T06:28:22 < dongs> so the other end is open
2017-09-02T06:34:15 < dongs> yep.. now it works
2017-09-02T06:37:23 < dongs> time to solder hc138 back n and see
2017-09-02T06:46:44 < dongs> hm.
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2017-09-02T07:05:19 < englishman> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176114
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2017-09-02T07:09:04 < dongs> lol webkit
2017-09-02T07:09:08 < dongs> useless apple faggots
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2017-09-02T07:28:44 < dongs> well, what in the actual fuck
2017-09-02T07:28:57 < dongs> ran out of options, decided to swap 74H138 with a new one i had on hand
2017-09-02T07:28:59 < dongs> now shit works and scans
2017-09-02T07:29:17 < dongs> chinks put a fake/failed/whatever teh fuck?! 74hc138 on there?....
2017-09-02T07:29:26 < englishman> speedy cloner services
2017-09-02T07:29:46 < dongs> this wasnt even speedy
2017-09-02T07:29:54 < dongs> it took them liek 2 weeks to handsolder this aids
2017-09-02T07:30:13 < englishman> i guess the fast/cheap/good "pick any two" theory has been reduced to "pick any one"
2017-09-02T07:30:21 < dongs> ha ha ha
2017-09-02T07:32:43 < dongs> also its hilarious how none of these dickstarter faggots seem to give the slightest fuck about succeeding
2017-09-02T07:32:59 < dongs> im here all by myself on a saturday morning, they just gave me all the keys and said "knockyourself out"
2017-09-02T07:33:14 < dongs> the main faggot calls me up at 11am and says "do yo uwanna go to lunch"
2017-09-02T07:33:31 < dongs> its 11 you fucking faggot, and your shit biz is like 2.5mil in debt, and you wanna go to lunch at 11?
2017-09-02T07:33:51 < englishman> who cares, he'll just start another
2017-09-02T07:34:04 < dongs> prbly
2017-09-02T07:34:15 < dongs> and buy more 100k 3d printers
2017-09-02T07:34:22 < dongs> ive not seen that thing print anything even once
2017-09-02T07:34:27 < englishman> he's $2.5m in debt? i hope you didnt give him net30
2017-09-02T07:35:23 < dongs> he keeps bitching how they're almost out of money and need to beg for more vc cash real soon now
2017-09-02T07:38:21 < englishman> are you back in taiwan then
2017-09-02T07:38:22 < englishman> lame
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2017-09-02T07:40:41 < dongs> yeah been here since like a week ago
2017-09-02T07:42:28 < englishman> i got the canadian import license for that electric quad
2017-09-02T07:42:32 < englishman> finally going to get that shipped
2017-09-02T07:42:38 < dongs> nicce
2017-09-02T07:43:41 < dongs> welp, everything works now that i replaced all chink parts
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2017-09-02T09:06:26 < ohsix> balls
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2017-09-02T10:03:27 < ohsix> https://twitter.com/Marketplace/status/903769215802511362
2017-09-02T10:03:42 < ohsix> er, for the ascii, forgot the topic
2017-09-02T10:03:48 < ohsix> lunix only? sweet
2017-09-02T10:23:23 < dongs> http://www.dailywire.com/news/20489/ole-miss-cancels-greek-life-retreat-after-students-emily-zanotti
2017-09-02T10:23:31 < dongs> faggots get triggered over the most trivial shit theese days
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2017-09-02T10:28:23 < ohsix> and then they paste the link everywhere
2017-09-02T10:28:58 < ohsix> put some aloe on that burn, it'll scar
2017-09-02T10:32:44 < dongs> the fuck is a greek community anyway
2017-09-02T10:32:53 < dongs> is that some newfag keyword for diddling kids
2017-09-02T10:33:39 < ohsix> so eh pro opinion time again; need some shit where a small battery lasts a long ass time, mcu can go to sleep in the ultra low power mode, or i can have a trigger circuti with one of those vibration switches
2017-09-02T10:33:51 < dongs> 1110111100000100
2017-09-02T10:33:52 < dongs> 765 4310     2
2017-09-02T10:34:03 < dongs> whats the quck-er way to get these bits into right order?
2017-09-02T10:34:23 < dongs> i see like 3 shifts and ANDs
2017-09-02T10:35:16 < ohsix> too bad you can't use godbolt to ask gcc or llvm what they would do
2017-09-02T10:35:18 < ohsix> oh, wait
2017-09-02T10:35:21 < ohsix> HEOUEOURHOURH
2017-09-02T10:35:38 < ohsix> dunno if they're minimal but constructed loads to save an immediate or something can be pretty compact
2017-09-02T10:39:55 < ohsix> if any pros have an opinion on the trigger thing hilight, gotta get off
2017-09-02T10:42:51 < zyp> dongs, you have that in a int16 already, or two int8s?
2017-09-02T10:45:19 < zyp> ((x & 0xe300) >> 8) | ((x & 0xc00) >> 7) | (x & 0x4)
2017-09-02T10:46:33 < zyp> are the other bits undefined or zero?
2017-09-02T10:49:17 < dongs> zyp, thats what i ended up wiht
2017-09-02T10:49:20 < dongs> ((tmp & 0x300) >> 8) | ((tmp & 0xc00) >> 8) | ((tmp & 0xe000) >> 8) | (tmp & 0x04)
2017-09-02T10:49:36 < dongs> oh, i fucked up one of the >> 8 shifts
2017-09-02T10:49:38 < dongs> which one is that
2017-09-02T10:49:45 < zyp> the 0xc00 one
2017-09-02T10:49:55 < zyp> and you can merge the 0x300 and the 0xe000 one into one
2017-09-02T10:50:19 < dongs> why is c00 fucked?
2017-09-02T10:51:07 < zyp> should be >> 7, not 8
2017-09-02T10:51:14 < dongs> yeah but why
2017-09-02T10:51:44 < zyp> because you want to move them from bits 11 and 10 into 4 and 3 respectively
2017-09-02T10:52:18 < dongs> oh, yeah only 7 bits space there
2017-09-02T10:52:57 < dongs> oh, i see why 300 and 0xe000 combine
2017-09-02T10:53:02 < dongs> the 765 and 10 bits
2017-09-02T10:53:12 < zyp> yes
2017-09-02T10:54:14 < zyp> ((x & a) >> n) | ((x & b) >> n) equals (x & (a | b)) >> n
2017-09-02T11:02:03 < dongs> https://thepihut.com/products/3d-xmas-tree-for-raspberry-pi
2017-09-02T11:02:07 < dongs> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
2017-09-02T11:02:30 < dongs> fucking hipsters
2017-09-02T11:03:09 < zyp> haha
2017-09-02T11:03:27 < dongs> i dont think its even multiplexing anything
2017-09-02T11:03:35 < dongs> it just litrerally has 25 io pins going to leds
2017-09-02T11:03:37 < dongs> omfg.
2017-09-02T11:04:00 < zyp> yeah, that looks dumb as fuck
2017-09-02T11:04:03 < zyp> ton of resistors
2017-09-02T11:04:19 < zyp> instead of a led driver and call it done
2017-09-02T11:04:30 < dongs> but then yo uowuldnt be able to hand-solder it
2017-09-02T11:04:35 < dongs> (tm)
2017-09-02T11:04:37 < zyp> exactly
2017-09-02T11:04:43 < dongs> anyway, this fucking TM1640 chinaled driver is fucking dope
2017-09-02T11:04:50 < dongs> its made for cascaded 7seg shits
2017-09-02T11:04:56 < dongs> but i have it hooked up to 8*16 leds
2017-09-02T11:05:07 < dongs> it handles the scanning/driving
2017-09-02T11:05:19 < dongs> just dump 16 bytes of crap into it to set led state
2017-09-02T11:05:36 < zyp> nice
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2017-09-02T12:22:20 < dongs> http://gwinstek-europe.blogspot.tw/2013/08/gsp-930-firmware-update.html what the fuck is this newbage
2017-09-02T12:22:31 < dongs> firmware files hosted on dropbox, news on blogspot?
2017-09-02T12:25:45 < Steffanx> lol.
2017-09-02T12:25:56 < Steffanx> and them 404 much
2017-09-02T12:26:06 < dongs> yeah, well not too surprising since its 201223
2017-09-02T12:26:09 < dongs> er 20132
2017-09-02T12:26:10 < dongs> slfjslfd21
2017-09-02T12:26:11 < dongs> wat
2017-09-02T12:26:13 < dongs> 10`3
2017-09-02T12:26:15 < dongs> 2013
2017-09-02T12:26:18 < dongs> why i cant type today
2017-09-02T12:26:19 < Steffanx> yes something like that
2017-09-02T12:26:23 < Steffanx> Stoned?
2017-09-02T12:26:25 < dongs> must be
2017-09-02T12:31:58 < dongs> haha dropbox link is 404 too
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2017-09-02T12:36:11 < Steffanx> on the gwinstek.ca website they link to dropbox too, yay
2017-09-02T12:36:42 < Steffanx> but who uses makerware brand gw anyway?
2017-09-02T12:44:02 < dongs> right
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2017-09-02T15:09:24 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/7Hjtrot.gifv fuckin lol
2017-09-02T15:11:20 < _ami_> dongs: his mind is getting fucked. :P
2017-09-02T15:11:21 < _ami_> lol
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2017-09-02T15:23:26 < dongs> http://wccftech.com/amd-cpu-sales-overtake-intel-first-time-decade-germanys-largest-e-tailer/ haha amd
2017-09-02T15:37:56 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/Build-Cryptocurrency-miner/
2017-09-02T15:38:01 < dongs> englishman: is that you
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2017-09-02T17:07:41 < Laurenceb_> englishman: if you are looking for alternative to ST magno, melexis stuff looks good
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2017-09-02T17:20:44 < Laurenceb_> 800hz sampling as opposed to 1khz for ST, but half the noise of st magnos
2017-09-02T17:21:44 < Laurenceb_> http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/lis3mdl-3-axis-magnetometer
2017-09-02T17:27:49 < Steffanx> heh, those guys are a bit too up to date Laurenceb_. "Qualcomm i.MX6"
2017-09-02T17:28:21 < Steffanx> afaik nxp aint qualcomm yet. The agreement has been signed, but its not entirely done yet.
2017-09-02T17:29:26 < Laurenceb_> what?!
2017-09-02T17:29:35 < Laurenceb_> I dont know what you are talking about
2017-09-02T17:29:59 < Steffanx> oh they are referring to some Qualcomm i.mx6 controller in some datasheet
2017-09-02T17:30:14 < Rob235> qualcomm bought nxp?
2017-09-02T17:30:20 < Steffanx> Yah, ages ago
2017-09-02T17:31:22 < Rob235> what does nxp do? only thing I know is the lpc1768 I have from them. is mbed from nxp?
2017-09-02T17:32:49 < Steffanx> lol Rob235. Better have a look at their website
2017-09-02T17:32:56 < Rob235> :)
2017-09-02T17:33:04 < Steffanx> mbed is arm
2017-09-02T17:33:43 < Rob235> oh ok
2017-09-02T17:33:56 < Rob235> ahh nxp has lots o stuff
2017-09-02T17:33:59 < Rob235> :P
2017-09-02T17:39:56 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUICERO-2-0-All-new-design-Half-the-price-up-to-twice-as-fast-/232473236304?hash=item36207c1350:g:BwkAAOSwSypY-pMU
2017-09-02T17:41:10 < PeterM> Laurenceb_ nice
2017-09-02T17:41:20 < PeterM> probably legit good
2017-09-02T17:42:16 < BrainDamage> that's legit useful for other things
2017-09-02T17:42:20 < PeterM> so.... freescale>nxp>nexperia>qualcomm?
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2017-09-02T17:44:52 < tpw_rules> i thought nxp forked into nexperia and qualcomm?
2017-09-02T17:45:04 < tpw_rules> like they spun off all their passives into nexperia then qualcomm bought the semiconductors
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2017-09-02T17:57:41 < Rob235> damn, My drawbot only has 23cm of vertical movement. I guess it will be landscape and do 8x10"s
2017-09-02T17:58:10 < Rob235> actually I need two more linear rails, maybe instead of getting another two 400mm i'll get longer ones for the vertical
2017-09-02T18:07:57 < Rob235> this thing is getting a bit bulky
2017-09-02T18:07:58 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/6QnLe
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2017-09-02T19:56:04 < englishman> found pic of dongs hard @ work innovating http://i.imgur.com/PcZb5vI.gifv
2017-09-02T20:00:24 < Steffanx> not sure, he is too close to a macbook
2017-09-02T20:00:25 < Steffanx> and labview
2017-09-02T20:00:37 < Steffanx> or is that a wannabee macbook
2017-09-02T20:04:26 < Steffanx> i think we should make Laurenceb_ a spacebar version
2017-09-02T20:23:18 < englishman> hello stefs
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2017-09-02T20:31:15 < Steffanx> Hello welcome, mr englishman
2017-09-02T20:33:22 < BrainDamage> engrishman
2017-09-02T20:34:11 < Steffanx> Welcome BlainDamage.
2017-09-02T20:34:30 < BrainDamage> hello steffanelle
2017-09-02T20:35:23 < englishman> herro brainy
2017-09-02T20:36:31 < Steffanx> Did I understand it right that the pool party is postponed mr englishman?
2017-09-02T20:37:10 < englishman> no, pool party came and left, its just there was no pool, only Edisons
2017-09-02T20:39:13 < englishman> of course the turkeys were in hiding the entire time, now I see them every day
2017-09-02T20:39:40 < Steffanx> Damn turks
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2017-09-02T21:30:22 < Steffanx> Damn it. ST should add digikey availability to timecube when selecting a mcu.
2017-09-02T21:30:44 < Fleck>  :D
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2017-09-02T22:08:28 < kakimir> Steffanx: have you done amateur mistake
2017-09-02T22:08:53 < Steffanx> Enlighten me
2017-09-02T22:09:25 < kakimir> by buying some special stm32 that is made once in decade?
2017-09-02T22:09:34 < kakimir> *designing in
2017-09-02T22:09:39 < Fleck> so, what would be the best way to drive WS2811 on stm32?
2017-09-02T22:09:45 < Steffanx> main issue it's too new, kakimir
2017-09-02T22:09:49 < Steffanx> so not available yet.
2017-09-02T22:10:22 < jpa-> Fleck: best according to what criteria?
2017-09-02T22:10:36 < Steffanx> according to ##stm32 pros ofcourse.
2017-09-02T22:10:53 < kakimir> same thing
2017-09-02T22:11:02 < kakimir> too new or too old
2017-09-02T22:11:37 < jpa-> i'd probably use a timer, but google will probably provide plenty of libraries
2017-09-02T22:12:18 < kakimir> cry to st to send you samples expedite Steffanx
2017-09-02T22:12:33 < Fleck> how would you use timer jpa-?
2017-09-02T22:12:41 < Steffanx> or just pick another one kakimir
2017-09-02T22:13:50 < Rob235> Fleck: do you control the 2811 the same way as the 2812?
2017-09-02T22:13:59 < jpa-> Fleck: set it to have 2.5 us period and one of the pwm modes, then DMA stuff into CCR1 register
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2017-09-02T22:14:41 < jpa-> crappy part is that it takes one dma transfer per bit, but on the other hand if you only have one pin for the leds that's not too bad
2017-09-02T22:14:42 < Fleck> Rob235: no clue, never used 2812
2017-09-02T22:14:43 < Rob235> yea thats what I did
2017-09-02T22:15:11 < Rob235> https://github.com/RJFeddeler/DexterFlightController/blob/master/src/ws2812.c
2017-09-02T22:15:13 < jpa-> if you wanted to drive 16 strings with minimum resources, it would make sense to use the timer to trigger DMA into GPIO ODR
2017-09-02T22:15:58 < Rob235> thats my code for f4 disco
2017-09-02T22:16:02 < jpa-> wow such 1093 lines of leds
2017-09-02T22:16:04 < jpa-> much brightness
2017-09-02T22:18:13 < Steffanx> My screen only has 1080 lines.
2017-09-02T22:21:03 < Fleck> jpa-: yeah, saw such libs online, 1bit = 1byte, kinda sucks
2017-09-02T22:26:29 < jpa-> the usual spi/usart tricks of course work on stm32 also, but i'm not sure you're going to gain much as one dma transfer per 2.5 us is peanuts anyway
2017-09-02T22:28:48 < Rob235> crap, cant find my esp8266 or sd card reader
2017-09-02T22:29:07 < Steffanx> those 2 are related?
2017-09-02T22:29:15 < Fleck> ;p
2017-09-02T22:29:21 < Rob235> both for my drawbot
2017-09-02T22:32:28 < kakimir> http://kchapman.de/knifemod.jpg
2017-09-02T22:33:29 < Fleck> ;p
2017-09-02T22:35:52 < kakimir> can rtl sdr be used price efficiently as some sort of 2.4ghz / 5,8ghz wifi antenna performance monitor?
2017-09-02T22:36:07 < kakimir> with some accetory device
2017-09-02T22:36:46 < Rob235> oh crap, the lcd is missing too, where did I put this shit
2017-09-02T22:37:45 < Steffanx> idk
2017-09-02T22:37:49 < devanagram> The sampling bandwidth on an RTL-SDR is pretty low (2.4-3.2MHz) vs a WiFi channel (20-40MHz?)
2017-09-02T22:37:59 < jpa-> kakimir: what does "antenna performance monitor" mean?
2017-09-02T22:38:22 < Steffanx> try it in finnish, jpa- might understand.
2017-09-02T22:38:31 < kakimir> oh wrong channel
2017-09-02T22:38:36 < kakimir> but anyway
2017-09-02T22:38:45 < kakimir> some sort of signal strenght
2017-09-02T22:38:50 < kakimir> and some sort of SNR
2017-09-02T22:38:57 < kakimir> relative is enought
2017-09-02T22:38:58 < jpa-> doesn't every wifi card and base station already show that?
2017-09-02T22:39:01 < kakimir> not absolute needed
2017-09-02T22:39:14 < kakimir> I don't trust them
2017-09-02T22:39:47 < jpa-> you should trust SNR readings from something that doesn't actually even decode the signal even less
2017-09-02T22:41:25 < jpa-> for just signal strength (when aiming a directional antenna), it could perhaps work with the usual hacks that allow it to go to 2.4GHz, but that would require you to get the other end to transmit a somewhat continuous signal
2017-09-02T22:43:31 < kakimir> how do I even SNR with rtlsdr with standard frequency range?
2017-09-02T22:44:02 < jpa-> calculating SNR is highly dependent on the signal modulation
2017-09-02T22:44:07 < jpa-> and wifi modulation is not simple
2017-09-02T22:44:33 < jpa-> to calculate it properly, you'd have to implement a demodulator in e.g. gnu radio, but like devanagram said, the bandwidth is not enough for that
2017-09-02T22:44:34 < kakimir> I have simpler use cases
2017-09-02T22:46:59 < BrainDamage> no to the wifi antenna performance
2017-09-02T22:48:05 < englishman> Fleck: what are your reuirements
2017-09-02T22:48:08 < englishman> arbitrary gpio?
2017-09-02T22:48:22 < Fleck> yeah, nothing special :)
2017-09-02T22:48:34 < kakimir> some wifi routers have advanced signal quality tools
2017-09-02T22:48:36 < englishman> dma-into-timer works fine, its the easiest
2017-09-02T22:48:47 < kakimir> almost like SDR
2017-09-02T22:48:51 < kakimir> waterfalls and shit
2017-09-02T22:48:57 < BrainDamage> nothing like sdr
2017-09-02T22:49:02 < englishman> just transpose your GRB values into timer values just before transmission
2017-09-02T22:49:02 < kakimir> true
2017-09-02T22:49:09 < englishman> so it only takes 24 bytes at a time
2017-09-02T22:49:22 < englishman> during the delay between LEDs
2017-09-02T22:49:29 < BrainDamage> they just measure signal strength per received packet and plot in time
2017-09-02T22:49:50 < Fleck> englishman: on my way sir!
2017-09-02T22:50:21 < englishman> cool
2017-09-02T22:50:28 < englishman> show us blinkenleds when yr done
2017-09-02T22:50:33 < Steffanx> and then run into some weird dma completing interrupt delay englishman?
2017-09-02T22:50:44 < englishman> oh yeah thats at least 2 days of development
2017-09-02T22:50:49 < englishman> never fixed that f0 bug
2017-09-02T22:50:53 < englishman> no clue what was up
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2017-09-03T00:01:44 < Steffanx> What mcu do you use for your sensor stuff Laurenceb? Those xtal-less f0s?
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2017-09-03T00:03:40 < Fleck> englishman: it blinks! :D
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2017-09-03T00:11:00 < Fleck> englishman: it blinks! :D
2017-09-03T00:11:03 < Fleck> ups
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2017-09-03T00:47:33 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/cwrZpYM
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2017-09-03T00:47:46 < Laurenceb_> Steffanx: yeah tssop f042
2017-09-03T00:49:14 < Laurenceb_> should be able to use the old mould stuff
2017-09-03T00:49:32 < kakimir> Laurenceb_: fun
2017-09-03T00:49:34 < kakimir> give me url
2017-09-03T00:49:36 < Laurenceb_> which takes 12.5mm diameter pcbs
2017-09-03T00:50:03 < Laurenceb_> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/microcontrollers/stm32-32-bit-arm-cortex-mcus/stm32-mainstream-mcus/stm32f0-series/stm32f0x2/stm32f042g6.html
2017-09-03T00:50:15 < Laurenceb_> ooh its available bare die
2017-09-03T00:50:18 < Laurenceb_> that could be fun
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2017-09-03T00:53:58 < tpw_rules> top CEC
2017-09-03T00:55:28 < Steffanx> lol
2017-09-03T01:00:58 < vampi-the-frog> is CEC for HDMI stuff?
2017-09-03T01:01:48 < tpw_rules> yeah
2017-09-03T01:06:03 < karlp> cec is the "we thought it would be good to have one remote and use the side channel, but none of us implemented it publicly so it's all just shit still"
2017-09-03T01:06:27 < karlp> but I like the cec==kek better
2017-09-03T01:10:09 < vampi-the-frog> i ordered some Z80 compatible Z8S180's
2017-09-03T01:10:19 < vampi-the-frog> gon be fun
2017-09-03T01:17:34 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7uduCAZD38
2017-09-03T01:28:28 < Thorn> what is the difference between 042 and 072
2017-09-03T01:30:06 < Steffanx> more flash and ram
2017-09-03T01:30:18 < Steffanx> different/larger packages
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2017-09-03T02:15:57 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42978.msg1709191#msg1709191
2017-09-03T02:19:15 < kakimir> no Laurenceb_
2017-09-03T03:12:26 < Rob235> does this mean that SPI isn't broken out? Is there any way to use it? https://cdn-learn.adafruit.com/assets/assets/000/043/912/original/adafruit_products_schem.png?1500079207
2017-09-03T03:13:39 < tpw_rules> i believe one of the spi is connected to the module's flash
2017-09-03T03:13:53 < tpw_rules> but the other can be configured to one of the GPIOs
2017-09-03T03:14:10 < tpw_rules> or maybe it only has one spi and it's connected to the module's flash
2017-09-03T03:23:53 < englishman> Fleck: that was fast
2017-09-03T03:45:42 < Laurenceb_> emdrive is real
2017-09-03T03:46:03 < Laurenceb_> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/283/235/7e3.jpg
2017-09-03T03:46:11 < Laurenceb_> what do you think is inside
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2017-09-03T03:50:46 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42978.700
2017-09-03T03:50:51 < Laurenceb_> 3d printed emdrive
2017-09-03T03:50:58 < Laurenceb_> we have reachedpeak buzzword
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2017-09-03T03:54:33 < Laurenceb_> Ok, gotta ask...
2017-09-03T03:54:33 < Laurenceb_> will Shell and/or Stardrive be publishing any of their accumulated research soon?
2017-09-03T03:54:47 < Laurenceb_> this forum is a never ending series of lulz
2017-09-03T03:55:37 < tpw_rules> are they affiliated with nasa in any ay
2017-09-03T03:55:39 < tpw_rules> that website
2017-09-03T03:55:42 < Laurenceb_> no
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2017-09-03T03:55:55 < Laurenceb_> but there are nasa freaks on there
2017-09-03T03:56:06 < tpw_rules> i hope nasa fires them like google did to that guy
2017-09-03T03:56:08 < Laurenceb_> no wonder nasa burns so much money on staffcosts
2017-09-03T03:56:12 < Laurenceb_> lul
2017-09-03T03:56:43 < Laurenceb_> Shell is the most lulz person on there
2017-09-03T03:56:55 < Laurenceb_> talks for years and does exactly zero
2017-09-03T03:57:31 < Laurenceb_> but every poster on there makes 4chan look sensible and reasonable
2017-09-03T03:57:41 < tpw_rules> wait fuck i thought you meant the oil company
2017-09-03T03:58:05 < tpw_rules> damn
2017-09-03T03:58:16 < Laurenceb_> it's been 4 years and they haven't left their keyboard
2017-09-03T03:58:49 < Laurenceb_> http://ssi.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ep_seashells_gary.jpg
2017-09-03T03:59:06 < tpw_rules> i hope they're boning
2017-09-03T03:59:14 < Laurenceb_> ^the two nasaspaceflight forum commenters in chief (and moderators)
2017-09-03T03:59:38 < Laurenceb_> if I was a US taxpayer I'd shoot them both
2017-09-03T04:06:55 < vampi-the-frog> STM32
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2017-09-03T04:15:05 < jadew`> Laurenceb_, did they figure out yet if it's actual thurst?
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2017-09-03T04:36:50 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWeVmiLF7A russia
2017-09-03T04:37:29 < vampi-the-frog> STM32
2017-09-03T04:37:44 < vampi-the-frog> hey how about those STM32F4 Discovery boards huh
2017-09-03T04:38:54 < vampi-the-frog> lots of pins
2017-09-03T04:40:19 < vampi-the-frog> big ol' surface mount chip on there huh
2017-09-03T04:40:43 < vampi-the-frog> boy it's gotta be hard to do one of those by hand thank gosh we can just buy them for a low low price
2017-09-03T04:40:55 < vampi-the-frog> golly geez
2017-09-03T04:40:57 < vampi-the-frog> wow
2017-09-03T04:52:55 < sync> It is very easy to solder it
2017-09-03T04:53:00 < Rob235> can you read a digital input with an analog (74HC4051) muxer? I don't see why not, I guess my question is do I have to say if signal is > some amount below vcc because there will be noise?
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2017-09-03T05:16:06 < dongs> wot
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2017-09-03T05:16:19 < dongs> Rob235: of coures you can use analog mux for it
2017-09-03T05:16:20 < dongs> what noise?
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2017-09-03T06:59:12 < dongs>  https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/lol-hoge/32531512812.html
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2017-09-03T07:07:01 < dongs> oh yay
2017-09-03T07:07:07 < dongs> found a baidu link for software
2017-09-03T07:12:26 < dongs> nice
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2017-09-03T08:10:12 < englishman> if there is ever a trade convention about capacitors
2017-09-03T08:10:20 < englishman> it should be called nichicon
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2017-09-03T08:24:35 < dongs> holy fuckin balls
2017-09-03T08:24:44 < dongs> open up chinese nand/nor flash reader
2017-09-03T08:24:56 < dongs> find STM32F407ZE inside
2017-09-03T08:25:08 < dongs> with a USB-HS PHY
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2017-09-03T08:37:19 < englishman> the choice of professionals
2017-09-03T08:37:39 < dongs> yes
2017-09-03T08:37:43 < dongs> its even called PROMAN
2017-09-03T08:37:44 < dongs> on pcb
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2017-09-03T08:42:19 < Thorn> BROMAN
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2017-09-03T10:57:19 < stvn> hoot hoot
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2017-09-03T11:31:37 < Thorn> https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/22876/why-are-these-astronauts-green
2017-09-03T11:32:43 < stvn> fuck
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2017-09-03T11:58:23 < jadew> did the youtube layout change in the past week?
2017-09-03T12:02:03 < stvn> perhaps
2017-09-03T12:02:08 < stvn> ask steffan
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2017-09-03T12:50:06 < gnom> hi all
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2017-09-03T13:26:11 < dongs> oh i finally picked up my usb3/16ch analyzer thing
2017-09-03T13:26:16 < dongs> went to the office wehre the dicks ordred it to
2017-09-03T13:26:26 < dongs> < jadew> did the youtube layout change in the past week?
2017-09-03T13:26:27 < dongs> yes
2017-09-03T13:26:33 < dongs> they've been testing with o6 for a few months now
2017-09-03T13:26:37 < dongs> and finally changed to flat gay faggot shit
2017-09-03T13:31:22 < dongs> it is fx3
2017-09-03T13:31:22 < dongs> neat
2017-09-03T13:40:30 < ReadErr> ya they been changing my shit up weekly for 5 months or so
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2017-09-03T13:47:55 < sync> which one dongs?
2017-09-03T13:49:47 < dongs> usb3 version of my old one
2017-09-03T13:50:09 < dongs> http://www.acute.com.tw/eng/p3_product_detail.php?cid=11&tid=18
2017-09-03T13:50:33 < sync> ah, those shits
2017-09-03T13:51:59 < dongs> yea
2017-09-03T13:58:33 < ohsix> heh! was looking for tampermonkey shit to restore old ali search box and found the one in zypsnips https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/aliexpress-tampermonkey
2017-09-03T13:58:48 < ohsix> isunitprice & qty search is sweet
2017-09-03T14:10:21 < ReadErr> PeterM
2017-09-03T14:10:24 < ReadErr> 's wife
2017-09-03T14:10:26 < ReadErr> made that
2017-09-03T14:10:27 < ReadErr> i think
2017-09-03T14:10:51 < dongs> is stoner6 chatting or something
2017-09-03T14:10:57 < dongs> less out-of-context chats please, readSTONER
2017-09-03T14:11:02 < ReadErr> yes
2017-09-03T14:11:08 < dongs> k
2017-09-03T14:11:09 < ReadErr> 6:58:33 AM <ohsix> heh! was looking for tampermonkey shit to restore old ali search box and found the one in zypsnips https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/aliexpress-tampermonkey
2017-09-03T14:11:09 < ReadErr> 6:58:48 AM <ohsix> isunitprice & qty search is sweet
2017-09-03T14:11:10 < ReadErr> thats all
2017-09-03T14:11:44 < dongs> i wish i had unlimited time to browse all the internet shops that I cannot afford to buy anything from
2017-09-03T14:12:02 < dongs> theseven is from #cockbox
2017-09-03T14:21:38 < Steffanx> Shit happens
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2017-09-03T14:33:48 < ReadErr> @realDonaldTrump> North Korea has conducted a major Nuclear Test. Their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States.....
2017-09-03T14:33:58 < ReadErr> orange retard is about to start WW3
2017-09-03T14:34:09 < ReadErr> japan will surely be one of the first to go
2017-09-03T14:35:40 < Steffanx> uhm, ReadErr you cant blame your potus for this..
2017-09-03T14:35:59 < ReadErr> could just let em do their thing
2017-09-03T14:36:05 < ReadErr> its gonna happen either way
2017-09-03T14:38:35 < Steffanx> but yeah, japan or south korea would be the first.
2017-09-03T14:40:20 < jadew> did you know that there were survivers of the hiroshima bomb that fleed to nagasaki and got bombed again?
2017-09-03T14:40:48 < jadew> some of them survived and may still be alive today, I think it would be a good idea not to be where those guys are
2017-09-03T14:44:57 < jpa-> considering that people live just fine in hiroshima today, i don't think the people would radiate much either
2017-09-03T14:45:50 < jadew> I'm not talking about radiation, but about bad luck
2017-09-03T14:45:56 < jpa-> ah
2017-09-03T14:46:13 < BrainDamage> luck is not a infectious disease
2017-09-03T14:46:36 < jadew> it is, when it has a blast radius
2017-09-03T14:49:53 < ReadErr> @realDonaldTrump> North Korea has conducted a major Nuclear Test. Their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous to the United States.....
2017-09-03T14:49:55 < ReadErr> @realDonaldTrump> ..North Korea is a rogue nation which has become a great threat and embarrassment to China, which is trying to help but with little success.
2017-09-03T14:50:03 < ReadErr> embarrassment !
2017-09-03T14:50:32 < Steffanx> Just stop retweeting the crap of this guy and we're all happy ReadErr
2017-09-03T14:51:46 < Steffanx> Just be happy when his 4 years are over and you can try again
2017-09-03T14:52:04 < ReadErr> well help me out brother... that is exactly what I need
2017-09-03T14:52:18 < BrainDamage> shitposting on irc?
2017-09-03T14:52:40 < ReadErr> nah just pasting sundaymorning drama
2017-09-03T14:53:05 < ReadErr> china was call't out
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2017-09-03T14:55:15 < Laurenceb_> <Laurenceb_> http://ssi.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/ep_seashells_gary.jpg
2017-09-03T14:55:17 < Laurenceb_> <tpw_rules> i hope they're boning
2017-09-03T14:55:33 < Laurenceb_> imagine how autistic the babby would be
2017-09-03T14:56:19 < ReadErr> Steffanx: ill leave you 2 alone
2017-09-03T14:57:05 < Steffanx> Take care ReadErr.
2017-09-03T14:57:20 < ReadErr> i mean im gonna stay in the room
2017-09-03T14:57:24 < ReadErr> im just not going to watch
2017-09-03T14:57:37 < jadew> Laurenceb_, didn't you post that last night too?
2017-09-03T14:57:49 < Steffanx> Watch what ReadErr?
2017-09-03T14:57:59 < jadew> did they actually figure out if the thrust is generated by the EM or it's some error?
2017-09-03T14:58:01 < Steffanx> I just dont give a damn about YOUR president :P
2017-09-03T14:58:32 < ReadErr> 🙅🏿‍♂️
2017-09-03T14:58:38 < ReadErr> dont much care for em myself
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2017-09-03T14:59:53 < Laurenceb_>  or it's some error
2017-09-03T14:59:57 < Laurenceb_> dude
2017-09-03T15:00:01 < Steffanx> <Laurenceb_> imagine how autistic the babby would be <= how autistic are you, Laurenceb_?
2017-09-03T15:00:13 < Steffanx> What kind of scale would you use?
2017-09-03T15:00:18 < BrainDamage> jadew: the data is shit and everything hints at error
2017-09-03T15:00:23 < dongs> log
2017-09-03T15:01:50 < jadew> BrainDamage, are they trying to refine the experiment or they're just riding the buzz?
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2017-09-03T15:02:12 < BrainDamage> yes
2017-09-03T15:02:21 < jadew> (maybe hoping for some money)
2017-09-03T15:02:56 < BrainDamage> impossible to know and arguably irrelevant
2017-09-03T15:14:41 < Laurenceb_> the third eye will tell you
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2017-09-03T16:01:17 < Laurenceb_> wow NK work fast
2017-09-03T16:01:34 < Laurenceb_> I thought that N bomb was just 3d printed shit only yesterday
2017-09-03T16:03:14 < Laurenceb_> https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-41134385
2017-09-03T16:09:28 < Laurenceb_> if NK was nasaspaceflight:
2017-09-03T16:09:44 < Laurenceb_> 4 years later: "how N-bomb formed??"
2017-09-03T16:18:39 < vampi-the-frog> how bout STM32-bomb instead
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2017-09-03T16:42:24 < Steffanx> i wouldnt allow you to do that vampi-the-frog
2017-09-03T16:43:02 < vampi-the-frog> that's cool dude haha
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2017-09-03T17:26:33 < englishman> vampi all the chatting has moved to ##stm64 after the recent announcement anyway
2017-09-03T17:26:47 < vampi-the-frog> what?
2017-09-03T17:28:42 < englishman> ongs> oh i finally picked up my usb3/16ch analyzer thing
2017-09-03T17:28:49 < englishman> thought you meant usb3 analyzer
2017-09-03T17:28:56 < englishman> not, an analyzer that plugs into usb3
2017-09-03T17:29:03 < englishman> somewhat more lame
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2017-09-03T17:34:47 < Steffanx> hah, lol.
2017-09-03T17:46:39 < Laurenceb_> heh stm64 is prob coming if H7 is anything to go by
2017-09-03T17:48:25  * Laurenceb_ is unconvinced of benefits of superscalar microcontrollers
2017-09-03T17:52:32 < tpw_rules> so they can run lennox better
2017-09-03T17:52:34 < tpw_rules> and node
2017-09-03T17:53:25 < tpw_rules> i just realized the logical limit of asynchronous everything is node for fpga
2017-09-03T17:53:44 < Laurenceb_> lel
2017-09-03T17:54:25 < tpw_rules> that's why intel is shipping processors with fpgas now
2017-09-03T17:54:28 < tpw_rules> for js
2017-09-03T17:54:32 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if hyperthreading could be cludged onto H7
2017-09-03T17:54:59 < tpw_rules> transmeta, but for js
2017-09-03T17:55:26 < Laurenceb_> xmos was right all along
2017-09-03T17:57:05 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdSynihF8k
2017-09-03T17:57:43 < tpw_rules> fuck am i in there
2017-09-03T18:13:07 < Steffanx> Why did you come, tpw_rules?
2017-09-03T18:14:22 < englishman> why is Laurenceb_ not on ignore, tpw_rules?
2017-09-03T18:15:31 < Steffanx> englishman has him on ignore?
2017-09-03T18:15:57 < Steffanx> I think Thomas gave up on his SJW-ing
2017-09-03T18:16:21 < englishman> no but i can tolerate autism better than most
2017-09-03T18:19:33 < Steffanx> When you're around in ##stm32 long enough you'll be infected, sooner or later.
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2017-09-03T18:23:48 < tpw_rules> nah technology is bad
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2017-09-03T18:43:24 < englishman> Steffanx today is spa repair day
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2017-09-03T19:53:51 < Steffanx> Excellent englishman :)
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2017-09-03T21:41:25 < kakimir> pics in the tub or didn't happen
2017-09-03T21:41:48 < kakimir> be sure to wait for glue to set totally first
2017-09-03T21:42:41 < Steffanx> kakimir wants to see wet pussy in a tub?
2017-09-03T21:43:16 < vampi-the-frog> STM32 pussy
2017-09-03T21:44:32 < kakimir> I want to see his dick ofc
2017-09-03T21:44:59 < BrainDamage> this channel needs a quote grabbing bot
2017-09-03T21:45:30 < Steffanx> you mean you want to see his cock.
2017-09-03T21:45:44 < Steffanx> damnit, you need to learn what kind of animals he has kakimir :P
2017-09-03T21:45:57 < Steffanx> (not sure if he has a cock, but he has the chicks)
2017-09-03T21:46:24 < BrainDamage> maybe it wasn't a mistake
2017-09-03T21:47:00 < Steffanx> Then he should meet tpw_rules
2017-09-03T21:47:20 < tpw_rules> my dick?
2017-09-03T21:49:35 < Steffanx> but he made this conversation go the wrong way BrainDamage.
2017-09-03T21:54:40 < ohsix> deep
2017-09-03T21:56:10 < ohsix> ReadErr: are you able to get that to work in tampermonkey? never used this shit in chrome, and it looks like it isn't
2017-09-03T21:56:37 < ohsix> was looking at the htmlshit and it looks like it should be working, tampermonkey says 'no scripts are running' when a tab is on aliexpress tho
2017-09-03T21:56:58 < ohsix> and i dont' see bits of it anywhere in the devtools, in firefox greasemonkey would inject shit all over
2017-09-03T21:57:21 < tpw_rules> > using chrome
2017-09-03T22:08:08 < ohsix> going to be busy, if there's something ic an check out or try let me know
2017-09-03T22:09:43 < englishman> kakimir: fuck this spa
2017-09-03T22:09:51 < englishman> im going to upgrade to stm32
2017-09-03T22:10:03 < Laurenceb_> spa?
2017-09-03T22:10:39 < Laurenceb_> woah http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD9361.pdf
2017-09-03T22:12:20 < aandrew> interesting
2017-09-03T22:13:34 < Laurenceb_> vpower hungry as expected
2017-09-03T22:14:36 < BrainDamage> 300 bucks/chip on digikey
2017-09-03T22:14:59 < BrainDamage> ok that it's a sdr in itself, but it also costs like one
2017-09-03T22:15:24 < Laurenceb_> yeah airspy ftw
2017-09-03T22:15:36 < Laurenceb_> I'm sceptical of a lot of this SDR stuff
2017-09-03T22:15:54 < Laurenceb_> lots of them use direct conversion with an LO thats going to be full of harmonics
2017-09-03T22:16:25 < Laurenceb_> some of the DVBT ics have filtering to remove harmonics, and funcube has crazy swappable filters
2017-09-03T22:17:46 < BrainDamage> the most common dvb dong uses superhet
2017-09-03T22:18:08 < BrainDamage> some of the cheaper 'maker' sdr do use zero if chips, due to simplicity
2017-09-03T22:18:46 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2017-09-03T22:19:10 < BrainDamage> you can do offset tuning so do het in sw for rx, and i guess they assume you'll be slapping a filter if you tx
2017-09-03T22:19:29 < BrainDamage> except i duobt any of those potential buyers realize it
2017-09-03T22:19:57 < Laurenceb_> yeah but if you have massive harmonics at 3 x  LO thats not going to help you
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2017-09-03T22:55:48 < englishman> rip sparc https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oracle-Solaris-Hit-Hard
2017-09-03T22:58:30 < Laurenceb_> http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD9361.pdf
2017-09-03T22:58:35 < Laurenceb_> erm
2017-09-03T22:58:36 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/EVdf242.jpg
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2017-09-03T23:06:44 < Steffanx> englishman and his weird hobbies: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/guinness-world-record-bee-beard-1.4269351
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2017-09-03T23:07:21 < Steffanx> "Dickey Bee Honey Farm" such ##stm32-ware
2017-09-03T23:07:57 < BrainDamage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDzl6SBCX0c&feature=youtu.be
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2017-09-03T23:14:56 < Steffanx> My autism cant deal with new youtube layout yet
2017-09-03T23:17:26 < BrainDamage> they didn't roll it out here yet
2017-09-03T23:25:09 < sync> it is glorious
2017-09-03T23:25:19 < sync> finally cinema mode is full window width
2017-09-03T23:25:39 < englishman> ^
2017-09-03T23:26:35 < BrainDamage> oh, i have that since years with client side scripts
2017-09-03T23:29:23 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7vrCpWbmDw
2017-09-03T23:35:02 < BrainDamage> >Watch the talk to learn what happened next. < for someone supposed to denounce the tech bullshit, he writes like one
2017-09-03T23:35:22 < BrainDamage> entepreneurs hate him!
2017-09-03T23:35:32 < jadew> I didn't read the descripition
2017-09-03T23:35:36 < jadew> the story is funny
2017-09-03T23:35:41 < jadew> that's why I linked it
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2017-09-04T00:28:53 < Laurenceb_> LIS3MDL looks fun to solder
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2017-09-04T00:40:35 < Rob235> crap
2017-09-04T00:41:04 < Rob235> am I dumb in thinking a lpc1768 can perform a traveling salesman problem?
2017-09-04T00:41:14 < Rob235> with simulated annealing
2017-09-04T00:41:43 < sync> any cpu can do that
2017-09-04T00:41:51 < Rob235> in decent time though
2017-09-04T00:42:31 < Rob235> I dont want it to take an hour to figure out its path.  and I dont think the mcu has enough memory, can I add external ram
2017-09-04T00:48:11 < Laurenceb_> I've never had much luck with simulated annealing
2017-09-04T00:48:19 < Laurenceb_> guess it depends on the problem tho
2017-09-04T00:49:08 < Rob235> my application doesn't have to be perfect, but the number of 'cities' can vary drastically
2017-09-04T00:51:15 < Rob235> can mbed's SDFileSystem library do random access on sd cards? how slow would that be
2017-09-04T00:57:10 < Laurenceb_> microscope + reference object?
2017-09-04T00:57:22 < Laurenceb_> there are some nice cheap usb webcam microscopes
2017-09-04T00:57:27 < Laurenceb_> u could even find ur dick
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2017-09-04T01:00:04 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i63cgUeSsY0
2017-09-04T01:00:08 < Laurenceb_> R2COM spotted
2017-09-04T01:00:35 < jadew> R2COM, I think LeeLooMinai mentioned some sensors that could do that
2017-09-04T01:00:41 < jadew> they're used for milling
2017-09-04T01:06:39 < jadew> https://www.flickr.com/photos/100017731@N03/34793109796/in/photostream/
2017-09-04T01:07:33 < jadew> I don't know, ask her
2017-09-04T01:07:34 < sync> it is a dial indicator
2017-09-04T01:28:31 < Rob235> hmm maybe I'll get a 32mbit flash module and then I just need to store indexes on the sram.
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2017-09-04T04:43:46 < dongs> < jadew> R2COM, I think LeeLooMinai mentioned some sensors that could do that
2017-09-04T04:43:50 < dongs> do what, find his dick?
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2017-09-04T04:48:00 < dongs> sup dongs
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2017-09-04T05:20:06 < dongs> logic analyzer working pretty good
2017-09-04T06:06:11 < emeb_mac> which logic anal - yzer?
2017-09-04T06:07:25 < dongs> Screw you Transcendent Designs and your SCAMSCREEN. Screw you Kickstarter for your inability to be more careful with other peoples money and protecting the crowdfunding scene from fraudsters. You've now got to manage the fallout and negitive PR which you so rightly deserve. Disputed payment lodged with my credit card. I hold little hope of any resolution, but at least there will be a record of everyone's disputes. The crowdfunding scene needs regulation to protect th
2017-09-04T06:07:36 < tpw_rules> is this a new copypasta
2017-09-04T06:07:45 < dongs> emeb_mac: the stuff ive been bloggin about upgrading mine to
2017-09-04T06:07:51 < dongs>  < dongs> http://www.acute.com.tw/eng/p3_product_detail.php?cid=11&tid=18
2017-09-04T06:08:16 < dongs> i got hte cheapest version locally for only $150 which is awesome
2017-09-04T06:08:43 < emeb_mac> ah cool - 16chl 200MHz
2017-09-04T06:08:52 < emeb_mac> that's useful
2017-09-04T06:08:57 < dongs> yep
2017-09-04T06:09:41 < dongs> and awesome software none of this faggot sikrok shit
2017-09-04T06:09:55 < emeb_mac> good bus parsers?
2017-09-04T06:10:17 < dongs> yes
2017-09-04T06:11:18 < emeb_mac> would be a good step up from that saelae stuff I've got
2017-09-04T06:12:08 < emeb_mac> but lately the only thing I ever use it for is i2c so no big deal
2017-09-04T06:52:18 < dongs> <Firmware Upgrade>:
2017-09-04T06:52:18 < dongs> Please wait until process bar is 100%.
2017-09-04T06:52:18 < dongs> Upgrade failed. Please try again.
2017-09-04T06:52:20 < dongs> nice china
2017-09-04T06:53:00 < emeb_mac> gah - update failures.
2017-09-04T06:54:19 < dongs> this china shit nand flash reader comes up as LINUXG_PRINTER device
2017-09-04T06:54:25 < dongs> which apparently makes it not require a driver in windows
2017-09-04T06:55:51 < emeb_mac> heh
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2017-09-04T07:25:08 < dongs> <TekniQue> wtf, open source bullshit
2017-09-04T07:25:09 < dongs> <TekniQue> it seems with every release of openocd they change the scripting syntax
2017-09-04T07:25:12 < dongs> <TekniQue> so nothing works
2017-09-04T07:25:16 < dongs> attn PaulFertser
2017-09-04T07:25:28 < dongs> you got another satisfied customer
2017-09-04T07:27:01 < Thorn> the latest release was 7 months ago
2017-09-04T07:27:06 < Thorn> https://www.instagram.com/p/BYlyzjzAI7a/
2017-09-04T07:53:37 < PaulFertser> Hah
2017-09-04T07:53:43 < PaulFertser> Tcl is not changing
2017-09-04T07:54:08 < PaulFertser> Also, everyone is invited to discuss all the changes. And there was nothing major lately anyway.
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2017-09-04T09:24:37 < englishman> wait where can i get a $150 logic analyzer that uses usb3
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2017-09-04T09:29:54 < aandrew> interesting LA
2017-09-04T09:30:10 < aandrew> I think he posted that before
2017-09-04T09:31:22 < englishman> nothing close to $150 tho
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2017-09-04T09:50:02 < dongs> englishman: ? the baseline model is $150
2017-09-04T09:50:06 < dongs> list price is like $169
2017-09-04T09:50:18 < dongs> i got a local pal to buy one for me and one for another pal so he got a deal
2017-09-04T09:50:24 < dongs> TB1601F or whatever
2017-09-04T09:50:33 < dongs> TB1016F
2017-09-04T10:13:45 < dongs> vertical USB-C plug, go
2017-09-04T10:14:01 < dongs> does digikey still fail to search for anything usb-c related
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2017-09-04T10:14:21 < dongs> yep.
2017-09-04T10:14:45 < aandrew> I recently did vertical microusb
2017-09-04T10:14:49 < dongs> me too
2017-09-04T10:15:08 < dongs> bene doing those for around ~10k boards now.
2017-09-04T10:16:29 < aandrew> works4me
2017-09-04T10:16:34 < dongs> ONE result for vertical usb-c
2017-09-04T10:16:34 < aandrew> https://www.digikey.ca/products/en/connectors-interconnects/usb-dvi-hdmi-connectors/312?k=usb+c&k=&pkeyword=usb+c&pv1061=50&FV=700b08%2Cffe00138%2C620174b%2C620174d&mnonly=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=500
2017-09-04T10:16:36 < dongs> plug
2017-09-04T10:16:42 < aandrew> oh plug? weird
2017-09-04T10:16:48 < dongs> yeah 3 remaining
2017-09-04T10:16:50 < dongs> thats same search i ran
2017-09-04T10:16:56 < dongs> and those 3 are same model
2017-09-04T10:17:02 < aandrew> hah
2017-09-04T10:17:06 < dongs> from amphefuckoff
2017-09-04T10:17:10 < dongs> yet china is filled of them
2017-09-04T10:18:40 < aandrew> prob have to go to chinavendor then
2017-09-04T10:18:49 < aandrew> no digikey.cn? :-)
2017-09-04T10:20:03 < dongs> hm, things called "plugs" on alishitpress are actually other end
2017-09-04T10:20:18 < Steffanx> Welcome back crt
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2017-09-04T10:53:22 < dongs> what hte shit why doesnt anyone make a fucking usb-c vertical male connector
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2017-09-04T11:06:27 < zyp> lack of demand, probably
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2017-09-04T11:19:54 < dongs> http://www.elabguy.com/datasheet/USB3.1-CM-BO-V1AV%20Rev1.0.pdf how did this faggot do it
2017-09-04T11:20:25 < dongs> did he just use straddle mount version as DIP
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2017-09-04T11:30:23 < dongs> found
2017-09-04T11:30:25 < dongs> chinagirl fucking delivers
2017-09-04T11:30:59 < zyp> so, what's the purpose? some kind of docking stand?
2017-09-04T11:31:11 < dongs> yea
2017-09-04T11:33:00 < dongs> 65c/ea
2017-09-04T11:33:00 < dongs> not bad
2017-09-04T11:34:46 < jsoft> Which datasheet is the alternate function mapppings generally defined in again?
2017-09-04T11:35:04 < dongs> its in the datasheet, not rm
2017-09-04T11:35:12 < dongs> you mean the table at the end that shows AF0/AF1 etc?
2017-09-04T11:35:58 < dongs> table titled "Alternate functions selected through..."
2017-09-04T11:43:09 < dongs> wow t hey even have a 3d model
2017-09-04T11:43:10 < dongs> wtf
2017-09-04T11:43:13 < dongs> such pro
2017-09-04T11:44:07 < jsoft> Mmm
2017-09-04T11:44:22 < jsoft> Thanks, grumpy guy
2017-09-04T11:47:13 < dongs> ^_-
2017-09-04T12:03:18 < ohsix> twin peaks ayye
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2017-09-04T12:06:07 < ohsix> vertical usb-c connector sounds like massive fail
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2017-09-04T12:07:01 < karlp> ohsix: depends entirely on your physical case design, just like all the other directions.
2017-09-04T12:07:42 < ohsix> can say that about anything, hehe
2017-09-04T12:08:11 < ohsix> but, only by extrapolation is it fail, the mounting would need quite a bit of bulk
2017-09-04T12:08:20 < ohsix> ~same for micro
2017-09-04T12:09:10 < ohsix> and now that i google it i see how dumb my interpretation of things was, haha
2017-09-04T12:09:18 < ohsix> not end on vertical, but from the side :o
2017-09-04T12:11:17 < ohsix> they've got em for usb host sockets https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1SVKnMVXXXXbIXVXXq6xXFXXXE/US-026-New-Side-Vertical-Female-font-b-Short-b-font-body-line-USB-Connector-Socket.jpg
2017-09-04T12:11:52 < ohsix> huh, and usb3
2017-09-04T12:12:11 < dongs> autism direction
2017-09-04T12:12:36 < dongs> APPROVAL: Make Hu
2017-09-04T12:13:02 < zyp> sounds like a maker
2017-09-04T12:13:13 < stvn> the grand autiste
2017-09-04T12:15:25 < dongs> just shut up and make hu
2017-09-04T12:16:27 < stvn> wtf is hu
2017-09-04T12:20:45 < ohsix> the guy with the nose
2017-09-04T12:23:44 < dongs> dont worry about it, just make it
2017-09-04T12:23:59 < dongs> make first, ask questions later
2017-09-04T12:32:11 < ohsix> https://twitter.com/jakefogelnest/status/904397173650886656
2017-09-04T12:32:16 < stvn> o.O
2017-09-04T12:34:09 < ohsix> zyp: slash pros, i've got the space to put, and utility in a shake sensor on a thing, can i also use it to make the stuff more battery thrifty; i'm thinking it might be a wash
2017-09-04T12:34:47 < ohsix> vibration sensor ~= only the one mosfet and passives to turn the micro on, micro will clamp powerup pin in early boot and release it to power off to nothing
2017-09-04T12:35:40 < ohsix> even in deep sleep shit, it isn't going to just be one mosfet waiting for pin changes or similar
2017-09-04T12:36:44 < ohsix> hoping to make it cheap enough to be disposable & have a battery that will last like a year
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2017-09-04T13:03:11 < tomeaton17> If I wanted to send this to an I2C device https://i.imgur.com/T6Q767D.png using the HAL library, for the first byte do I need to send the address in the data aswell?
2017-09-04T13:05:59 < zyp> not familiar with the HAL, but I assume it has a separate argument for the address?
2017-09-04T13:06:20 < zyp> if so, i2c address is not part of the data
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2017-09-04T13:08:54 < tomeaton17> zyp: Yeah it has a seperate argument for address. But how does it know when to include the address and when not to? E.g I don't want the address in the second byte
2017-09-04T13:09:16 < jadew> the address is sent only once
2017-09-04T13:10:38 < jadew> you may have a repeated start condition, in which case it will send the address again, or a new address
2017-09-04T13:10:55 < jadew> but if you don't issue a new start, it shouldn't send it
2017-09-04T13:11:39 < zyp> tomeaton17, I assume you put in both the address and all the data bytes for the transaction in one call
2017-09-04T13:11:57 < zyp> then the HAL will manage sending the address first and then the data bytes
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2017-09-04T13:12:28 < zyp> every i2c transaction starts with address, so this is not something unique to the device you're trying to access
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2017-09-04T13:16:04 < dongs> wanna see fucked up i2c, try lunix
2017-09-04T13:16:15 < dongs> they have that 'transaction' shit with both read and write bits in same call
2017-09-04T13:16:38 < dongs> someone propbably copypasted SPI driver and ne ver changed how it works
2017-09-04T13:17:06 < tomeaton17> zyp: Ok cool, so when sending the first address + r/w byte I only send the r/w bit?
2017-09-04T13:17:15 < dongs> why do you have a 12bit ADC on I2C
2017-09-04T13:17:19 < dongs> when you can just use ADC from STM
2017-09-04T13:17:29 < zyp> tomeaton17, no, r/w bit is part of the address
2017-09-04T13:17:40 < zyp> you just skip that byte since it's handled by HAL
2017-09-04T13:17:53 < dongs> (you have to give hal 7-bit non-shifted address)
2017-09-04T13:18:04 < dongs> so in your case address 0s 0b10010000>>1
2017-09-04T13:18:12 < dongs> 0x48?
2017-09-04T13:19:08 < jadew> !dongs 100101b * 111b
2017-09-04T13:19:36 < dongs> ??
2017-09-04T13:19:44 < tomeaton17> It says in the docs you should shift it
2017-09-04T13:19:49 < dongs> hal docs?
2017-09-04T13:19:53 < tomeaton17> yeah
2017-09-04T13:21:19 < jadew> depends on how you got the address
2017-09-04T13:21:30 < jadew> shifted to the left or not
2017-09-04T13:21:37 < dongs> @param  DevAddress Target device address: The device 7 bits address value
2017-09-04T13:21:44 < dongs> jadew: he pasted the datasheet.
2017-09-04T13:21:48 < dongs> the address tehre includes r/w bit
2017-09-04T13:21:51 < dongs> so need to shift right
2017-09-04T13:22:03 < jadew> ah, got it
2017-09-04T13:22:24 < dongs> for fucks sake
2017-09-04T13:22:27 < dongs> f0 HAL i2c.c
2017-09-04T13:22:30 < dongs> is 4800 lines of code
2017-09-04T13:22:36 < dongs> how the fuck do they manage to  write so much garbage
2017-09-04T13:22:38 < tomeaton17> https://i.imgur.com/U2vC6QC.png here it says
2017-09-04T13:22:44 < dongs> 160kbytes
2017-09-04T13:22:47 < dongs> .c file
2017-09-04T13:22:50 < dongs> tor f0 i2c
2017-09-04T13:22:52 < dongs> attn zyp
2017-09-04T13:23:16 < dongs> the only thing bigger is tim.c
2017-09-04T13:23:19 < dongs> at 171k
2017-09-04T13:23:30 < dongs> spi is close third, at 124k
2017-09-04T13:23:44 < jadew> maybe they have lots of comments
2017-09-04T13:23:54 < zyp> dongs, haha
2017-09-04T13:24:02 < dongs> no they dontd
2017-09-04T13:24:40 < tomeaton17> So its a shift right not left?
2017-09-04T13:24:47 < dongs> tomeaton17: uhh. it says right there same thing isaid
2017-09-04T13:24:56 < dongs> < dongs> so in your case address is 0b10010000>>1
2017-09-04T13:25:08 < tomeaton17> Hm ok cool
2017-09-04T13:25:16 < dongs> so they want the address without rw bit set
2017-09-04T13:25:29 < tomeaton17> But does it not say device 7 bit address?
2017-09-04T13:26:26 < dongs> thats what you get by shifting 8 bits to the right by 1
2017-09-04T13:26:29 < dongs> a 7 bit device address
2017-09-04T13:26:37 < jadew> tomeaton17, the datasheet gave you a full byte with both the address and the r/w bit
2017-09-04T13:26:45 < jadew> you have to shift the r/w bit out
2017-09-04T13:27:24 < tomeaton17> Ok so I can just give the 7bit address then
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2017-09-04T14:41:19 < Laurenceb> kim dropping more N bombs than weev right now
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2017-09-04T15:05:25 < tomeaton17> The transmit doesn't seem to be sending data, this is la https://i.imgur.com/42nRZeR.jpg and it just goes straight to the error handler
2017-09-04T15:07:09 < tomeaton17> It just starts and doesn't send anything, maybe scope isn't capturing the second send
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2017-09-04T15:32:38 < zyp> tomeaton17, there's no ACK
2017-09-04T15:33:47 < zyp> your trace shows the i2c master is starting a write to 0x48, but the slave doesn't respond, so the master aborts
2017-09-04T15:34:43 < zyp> which suggests that either the address 0x48 is wrong, or your slave isn't connected/listening/responding properly
2017-09-04T15:36:27 < zyp> according to the picture you posted earlier, address is correct
2017-09-04T15:36:59 < zyp> oh, also confirm that the i2c pins are configured to open drain, not push-pull
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2017-09-04T15:44:49 < Laurenceb> kakimir waifu http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/brittany-venti
2017-09-04T15:45:08 < tomeaton17> zyp: Pins set to af_od. Will check connections
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2017-09-04T15:46:26 < zyp> well, your la trace shows slave not acknowledging
2017-09-04T15:46:47 < zyp> so master software is working properly
2017-09-04T15:47:18 < tomeaton17> Yeah, so must be the device
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2017-09-04T16:09:08 < kakimir> Laurenceb: not sure if trap
2017-09-04T16:09:57 < tomeaton17> zyp: Something must have been wrong with the connection, it seems to be working now.
2017-09-04T16:11:59 < zyp> :)
2017-09-04T16:13:20 < tomeaton17> Do I need to manually send an ack back when receiving data? Looking at the trace it doesn't seem to be doing it for me.
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2017-09-04T16:29:16 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKaG0zVmw4X3lOVk0/view?usp=sharing
2017-09-04T16:43:09 < zyp> tomeaton17, no, there's different semantics for ACK depending on direction
2017-09-04T16:43:31 < zyp> when receiving, master asserts ACK when it wants to keep receiving
2017-09-04T16:43:42 < zyp> i.e. on last byte received, ACK will not be asserted
2017-09-04T16:43:59 < zyp> which means that if you're only reading one byte, it won't be ACKed
2017-09-04T16:46:25 < tomeaton17> zyp: Hmm ok. I am trying to read a from a 2 byte register and I am getting the same byte for both the MSB and LSB when they should be different. Is some sort of sequential read required?
2017-09-04T16:46:55 < zyp> no
2017-09-04T16:47:19 < zyp> can you pastebin the code that does this read?
2017-09-04T16:50:06 < tomeaton17> https://hastebin.com/zapokapuga.hs zyp I call this function twice to receive both bytes
2017-09-04T16:50:48 < zyp> yeah, that doesn't make sense
2017-09-04T16:51:11 < zyp> I mean, I assume you're setting length = 1, right?
2017-09-04T16:51:24 < tomeaton17> yeah
2017-09-04T16:51:27 < zyp> why would you do two reads with length = 1 instead of one read with length = 2?
2017-09-04T16:51:50 < tomeaton17> So I dont have to split it into MSB and LSB, but I guess I could just do operations on the whole thing
2017-09-04T16:52:36 < zyp> your argument doesn't make sense, you should absolutely do one two-byte read
2017-09-04T16:53:34 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/S1hL28Gc
2017-09-04T16:53:42 < Laurenceb> something wrong with my descriptors
2017-09-04T16:54:30 < zyp> 24 are audio descriptors, right?
2017-09-04T16:54:58 < zyp> if so, looks like you got the order wrong, you don't have them inside an interface
2017-09-04T16:55:41 < zyp> picture the config descriptor as a tree, top level is configuration roots, under that you have interfaces, under that you have endpoints
2017-09-04T16:55:49 < zyp> audio stuff also goes under an interface
2017-09-04T16:56:20 < zyp> when you flatten the tree, you start with the root and then pack it recursively
2017-09-04T16:58:30 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-09-04T16:58:48 < tomeaton17> zyp: Ok, the second byte is incorrect, its just 0xFF which is wrong
2017-09-04T16:58:53 < Laurenceb> yeah I'll draw a diagram lol
2017-09-04T17:00:30 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-09-04T17:00:40 < Laurenceb> its an audio control interface
2017-09-04T17:00:46 < Laurenceb> looks like the examples to me
2017-09-04T17:01:26 < dongs> PaulFertser: http://bcas.tv/paste/results/prYa2O77.html amazing openfuckingshit
2017-09-04T17:02:59 < Laurenceb> oh no - I need   USB_DESC_TYPE_INTERFACE at highest level
2017-09-04T17:03:05 < Laurenceb> stupid macros everywhere
2017-09-04T17:04:19 < zyp> dongs, what's up with that cpu0 and cpu1 shit?
2017-09-04T17:04:51 < dongs> no clue
2017-09-04T17:04:55 < dongs> its ESP32 aids
2017-09-04T17:05:02 < zyp> that much I figure
2017-09-04T17:05:12 < dongs> maybe its dualcore
2017-09-04T17:05:15 < zyp> but is there actually some dualcore shit there?
2017-09-04T17:05:21 < zyp> ah, yes
2017-09-04T17:05:25 < dongs> apparently yes
2017-09-04T17:05:26 < zyp> "240 MHz dual core Tensilica LX6 microcontroller with 600 DMIPS"
2017-09-04T17:05:53 < dongs> fucking garbage
2017-09-04T17:05:57 < dongs> is ARM license really that much
2017-09-04T17:06:00 < dongs> fucking chinks could jsut steal it
2017-09-04T17:06:30 < englishman> using esp3288 at your startup?
2017-09-04T17:06:37 < dongs> not me
2017-09-04T17:06:37 < zyp> hmm, how much is esp32?
2017-09-04T17:06:46 < dongs> zyp, tree fiddy
2017-09-04T17:07:01 < englishman> Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word".
2017-09-04T17:07:02 < englishman> wat
2017-09-04T17:07:10 < dongs> some lunix trash i think
2017-09-04T17:07:15 < dongs> there's a command called "apropos"
2017-09-04T17:07:22 < englishman> lol
2017-09-04T17:07:26 < dongs> :~$ apropos faggots
2017-09-04T17:07:26 < dongs> faggots: nothing appropriate
2017-09-04T17:09:28 < englishman> https://gfycat.com/ImmaculateWastefulCanine
2017-09-04T17:10:09 < englishman> they must be paying you a whole lot to use esp32 and openocd
2017-09-04T17:10:18 < dongs> < dongs> not me
2017-09-04T17:10:20 < tomeaton17> https://gyazo.com/6d0f2dce06634e40b2d0b33629e501e0 zyp: Is there a timing problem here?
2017-09-04T17:10:26 < dongs> my gook pal is doing somethin with it wiht DMX
2017-09-04T17:10:44 < dongs> is this i2c?
2017-09-04T17:11:13 < tomeaton17> yes
2017-09-04T17:11:16 < dongs> try enabling a fucking I2C bus analisys module so you canacutally see what the fuck is going on
2017-09-04T17:11:17 < Laurenceb> hate bus
2017-09-04T17:11:27 < Laurenceb> never saw i2c fail coming...
2017-09-04T17:11:46 < dongs> why does that address loon wrong
2017-09-04T17:11:49 < tomeaton17> look at the bottom
2017-09-04T17:11:49 < dongs> look
2017-09-04T17:11:58 < dongs> there's no ack to address
2017-09-04T17:12:22 < zyp> sure there is, ACK is active low
2017-09-04T17:12:38 < zyp> there's no ACK to the first byte read though
2017-09-04T17:12:54 < Laurenceb> https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/1*al0U8_cWzjkBQa2FJnqwiA.jpeg
2017-09-04T17:13:00 < Laurenceb> when ur i2c drives past
2017-09-04T17:13:17 < tomeaton17> zyp: So no ack from master?
2017-09-04T17:13:21 < fest> dongs: esp32 sdk at least is better than esp8266 when it came out
2017-09-04T17:13:34 < fest> so, at least they are heading in the right direction
2017-09-04T17:13:37 < dongs> fest, its all stolen chinese shit anyway
2017-09-04T17:13:48 < dongs> copypasted crap on top of copypasted crap
2017-09-04T17:13:52 < zyp> tomeaton17, correct, that looks like a master error
2017-09-04T17:14:06 < dongs> the real reason they were hiding esp14/88 shit is cuz it was all opensores code
2017-09-04T17:14:20 < fest> dongs: they have hired some western dudes to work on/manage SDK this time
2017-09-04T17:14:41 < dongs> maybe they'll use a cortex-m core next time
2017-09-04T17:14:45 < tomeaton17> zyp: Ok. Do you think using the sequential receive function might help?
2017-09-04T17:15:12 < zyp> not sure what you mean by sequential receive, but go ahead and try
2017-09-04T17:15:13 < fest> I hope the guys they hired are telling them it every day ;>
2017-09-04T17:17:20 < dongs> englishman: besides im heading bac tomrorow at like 5am
2017-09-04T17:17:27 < dongs> i wouldnt be doing ESP32 shit at this time even if they were paying me
2017-09-04T17:17:48 < englishman> innovation complete?
2017-09-04T17:18:12 < dongs> for now
2017-09-04T17:18:27 < dongs> next shit already booked for beginning of october
2017-09-04T17:18:33 < dongs> when im being sent to tw then to uk
2017-09-04T17:19:04 < tomeaton17> zyp: Never mind that function is in the docs but not the src code.. great
2017-09-04T17:19:09 < dongs> haha
2017-09-04T17:19:25 < dongs> tomeaton17: what stm32 is this again?
2017-09-04T17:19:32 < dongs> f103?
2017-09-04T17:19:37 < tomeaton17> y
2017-09-04T17:19:44 < zyp> tomeaton17, anyway, good luck, I'm out
2017-09-04T17:19:56 < tomeaton17> ok
2017-09-04T17:20:12 < dongs> tomeaton17: consider adding this at startup, before you init HAL/I2C shit https://github.com/multiwii/baseflight/blob/master/src/drv_i2c.c#L346
2017-09-04T17:20:32 < PaulFertser> dongs: program_esp32 is some not in upstream command
2017-09-04T17:20:42 < dongs> its possible your slave is getting fucked by failing/debugging shit and is confused, this makes sure the bus is clean before you start it
2017-09-04T17:22:01 < dongs> PaulFertser: well, it still doesnt work :
2017-09-04T17:23:57 < tomeaton17> dongs: Hm ok. I think its a problem with the master because its not acking the first byte.
2017-09-04T17:24:03 < dongs> http://random-international.com/work/ a dude from here wants me to do some displayport work for him
2017-09-04T17:24:59 < tomeaton17> And what is that low blip near the end of the trace?
2017-09-04T17:28:26 < dongs> thats probly just your scope glitching
2017-09-04T17:30:53 < dongs> whats the capture rate on that
2017-09-04T17:32:29 < Laurenceb> or ur hardware is broken
2017-09-04T17:39:25 < tomeaton17> its 50MHz 1GS
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2017-09-04T18:03:37 < Thorn> dafuq why is max6954 $20
2017-09-04T18:04:44 < englishman> >maxim
2017-09-04T18:04:47 < englishman> do you even have to ask
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2017-09-04T18:10:07 < Laurenceb> I see maxim have stopped selling gyros
2017-09-04T18:10:18 < Laurenceb> but new st gyro pwns even their best stuff
2017-09-04T18:15:09 < Laurenceb> woah st is using amazon cloud now
2017-09-04T18:28:23 < tomeaton17> Ok carrying on from earlier https://gyazo.com/cf42995796b9c42f3bd3d9805f4dff1c the master is not acking the data from slave which I think is causing it to send the same byte again
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2017-09-04T18:31:50 < Laurenceb> wtf reeeeeee
2017-09-04T18:32:04 < Laurenceb> you need an autodesk account for eagle now?
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2017-09-04T18:40:42 < tomeaton17> I think I have found the problem https://i.imgur.com/5pUdAYW.png should be low at those points https://i.imgur.com/B9ZXlOY.png
2017-09-04T18:41:58 < tomeaton17> So how do I force it to acknowledge
2017-09-04T18:48:31 < Laurenceb_> nice
2017-09-04T18:48:37 < Laurenceb_> eagle 8.3.1 segfaults
2017-09-04T19:01:01 < Steffanx> Eagle..m
2017-09-04T19:01:21 < Steffanx> You arent even allowed to use free eagle commercially, are you?
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2017-09-04T20:26:55 < Thorn> is anybody using 14/16-segment displays these days?
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2017-09-04T20:40:26 < aandrew> wtf
2017-09-04T20:40:30 < aandrew> uint8_t *src
2017-09-04T20:40:40 < aandrew> if (src & 0x3) { /* src is not aligned */ }
2017-09-04T20:41:05 < aandrew> wtf is wrong with that? gcc bitches that I'm ANDing a uint8_t * with an int, and I'm like "yeah, and...?"
2017-09-04T20:43:13 < Thorn> pointer arithmetic does not include the & operator
2017-09-04T20:43:33 < Thorn> cast it to size_t or something
2017-09-04T20:43:35 < aandrew> I swear I've done this a million times before, but perhaps I'm misremebering
2017-09-04T20:43:40 < aandrew> yeah I casted it to uint32_t and it shut up
2017-09-04T20:43:56 < Thorn> >There are four arithmetic operators that can be used on pointers: ++, --, +, and -
2017-09-04T20:44:44 < aandrew> I must just be having a thinko
2017-09-04T20:45:42 < Steffanx> Comes with the age :P
2017-09-04T20:52:51 < aandrew> indeed
2017-09-04T20:52:59 < aandrew> eyesight is starting to go, brain starting to go
2017-09-04T20:53:06 < aandrew> getting old is awesome, let me tell you
2017-09-04T20:57:09 < Steffanx> At least there are glasses for the eyesight and for the brain there is ##stm32
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2017-09-04T21:12:09 < BrainDamage> is this what they mean with driverless cars? https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/903724586549878785
2017-09-04T21:12:33 < Steffanx> :)
2017-09-04T21:14:00 < Steffanx> Quality retweet BrainDamage
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2017-09-04T21:46:57 < Rob235> my brain stopped working as well
2017-09-04T21:47:08 < Rob235> can't figure out simple math
2017-09-04T21:54:55 < Steffanx> I feel sorry for you
2017-09-04T21:56:58 < Steffanx> Can our distributed brain solve it for your Rob235?
2017-09-04T21:58:16 < Rob235> not really, I just need a break.  I'm just trying to figure out how I want to store stepper rate / steps per mm / microstep
2017-09-04T21:59:24 < Rob235> I guess its not the math, thats easy enough, just not sure how I want to represent it
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2017-09-04T22:10:54 < jpa-> if you have fpu, as float probably
2017-09-04T22:11:06 < jpa-> if not, as a rational number (so int numerator; int denominator;)
2017-09-04T22:11:59 < BrainDamage> stepper rate: pi
2017-09-04T22:12:11 < Rob235> doesn't need to be float, works out to a whole number
2017-09-04T22:12:44 < jpa-> does it always work out to a whole number?
2017-09-04T22:12:59 < Rob235> GT2 20T belt/pulley and 400 step/rev
2017-09-04T22:13:16 < jpa-> ah, so you don't want to code to work for anything else
2017-09-04T22:13:32 < Rob235> nah, this is just a project for me
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2017-09-04T23:17:27 < jadew> stupid glued components on evalutaion boards
2017-09-04T23:17:56 < jadew> I wanted to replace one with something else and I ended up decapping another one
2017-09-04T23:18:06 < jadew> this time unintentional
2017-09-04T23:44:26 < jadew> I'm gonna start one of these, like Dexter: https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3219/2697984085_36a72d951f_z.jpg?zz=1
2017-09-04T23:44:45 < jadew> just that instead of blood, I'll have ICs
2017-09-04T23:47:42 < kakimir> time to collect shit
2017-09-04T23:47:59 < kakimir> electronics are junk
2017-09-04T23:48:17 < kakimir> what do you find worth the effort to put in there?
2017-09-04T23:48:40 < jadew> dies of the chips I'm interested in, for reference
2017-09-04T23:49:15 < jadew> now that I decapped that one by mistake (with the pliers) I'm 99% sure the one I decapped the other day was original
2017-09-04T23:49:22 < jadew> because the one I decapped now was original
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2017-09-05T00:22:07 < laurence_> https://imgur.com/4LL1wlz
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2017-09-05T00:31:20 < jadew> lemonparty is not there
2017-09-05T00:33:52 < kakimir> laurence_: could you desing me a rocket?
2017-09-05T00:34:09 < laurence_> what sort of rocket
2017-09-05T00:34:54 < kakimir> oxy + solid
2017-09-05T00:35:35 < BrainDamage> how heavy is the payload
2017-09-05T00:35:46 < kakimir> maybe 1000N-1500N of thrust
2017-09-05T00:36:01 < laurence_> sounds like a faff
2017-09-05T00:36:19 < laurence_> APCP reloads are available off the shelf
2017-09-05T00:36:24 < kakimir> ?
2017-09-05T00:37:26 < laurence_> solid fuel
2017-09-05T00:42:16 < englishman> laurence_: http://muslimsincalgary.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/56985698.jpg
2017-09-05T00:42:51 < jadew> as an oddity
2017-09-05T00:42:58 < laurence_> .nick Laurenceb_
2017-09-05T00:43:17 < laurence_> \nick Laurenceb_
2017-09-05T00:43:26 < jadew> it's already taken
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2017-09-05T00:43:37 < Laurenceb__> epin fail
2017-09-05T00:44:21 < Laurenceb__> englishman: as long as they are not in my pants
2017-09-05T00:44:57 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: whut do u wunt ur rocket to doo?
2017-09-05T00:45:11 < kakimir> basically for fun
2017-09-05T00:45:20 < kakimir> I want to ride it
2017-09-05T00:45:32 < jadew> shoot his load over the city
2017-09-05T00:46:39 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-05T00:49:03 < BrainDamage> kakimir converted to jihad?
2017-09-05T00:49:18 < kakimir> not that kind of fun
2017-09-05T01:07:28 < Laurenceb__> https://cdn.drawception.com/images/panels/2012/7-6/NsNR764SWM-6.png
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2017-09-05T01:31:04 < Laurenceb__> is it possible to use usb SOF as a timer input on F0  ?
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2017-09-05T01:49:42  * Laurenceb__ is watching documentary about Russian ISIS recruits
2017-09-05T01:50:07 < Laurenceb__>  *Russian accent* I bored, search youtube, find ISIS video
2017-09-05T01:50:32 < Laurenceb__> it say I fight holy war, it look awesome so I join up
2017-09-05T01:50:39 < Laurenceb__> > sounds about right
2017-09-05T02:05:15 < englishman> sounds exactly like R2COM
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2017-09-05T02:14:38 < kakimir> I have found the last video of the youtubulars
2017-09-05T02:15:04 < kakimir> "Horses, Peacefully Farting and Snoring"
2017-09-05T02:17:05 < jadew> do you guys think IC cloners also clone the logo? or there are no die manufacturers that actually clone the die?
2017-09-05T02:17:30 < jadew> and instead they just use some other device with similar performance and just add the fake label on the epoxy?
2017-09-05T02:18:54 < jadew> I mean... is there such a thing as a fake die?
2017-09-05T02:36:40 < kakimir> they replace it with communisty party logo
2017-09-05T02:42:03 < jadew> that was good on many levels
2017-09-05T03:02:32 < aandrew> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/c-programming/need-verilog-developer/ there ya go
2017-09-05T03:02:44 < aandrew> whore yourself out to lazy stupid students for $5/hr
2017-09-05T03:05:19 < jadew> I never understood people who felt it's ok to ask someone else to do their homework
2017-09-05T03:05:25 < jadew> that's just stupid
2017-09-05T03:07:06 < jadew> might be ok in highschool when you don't care about some stuff you're supposed to learn, but in college?
2017-09-05T03:07:51 < jadew> why the hell do they go to college if they don't intend to learn what they're going there to learn?
2017-09-05T03:09:55 < Thorn> aliexpress has some cheap xilinx fpgas https://www.aliexpress.com/item/XC6SLX9-2TQG144C-TQFP144-D-C14-New-and-original-KeXunDa-Electronic-In-stock/32281690434.html
2017-09-05T03:09:55 < Thorn> are they legit
2017-09-05T03:39:26 < Laurenceb__> wtf is ITR on F0?
2017-09-05T03:39:36  * Laurenceb__ is getting confused
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2017-09-05T04:15:42 < ohsix> boogies
2017-09-05T04:19:49 < ohsix> jadew: lul i know so many people going to school because it gets them access to money, and they're just not doing anything at all
2017-09-05T04:19:58 < ohsix> the only pressure to actually achieve something is when the money is at risk
2017-09-05T04:20:17 < ohsix> i've got the same outlook, where you go to school with intent, and that shit is weird
2017-09-05T04:20:37 < ohsix> and the CSR (cambridge radio) clones i saw, cloned the logo and shit too
2017-09-05T04:21:35 < ohsix> kakimir: have you tried to watch videos 'for' kids on youtube? shit is wild, there is compilations and stuff fo cartoons, they go way off to strange after a few minutes
2017-09-05T04:21:49 < ohsix> adult finds the video and watches the first bit, hands it to kid; kid gets blasted with crazy shit
2017-09-05T04:22:45 < Rob235> poopoo
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2017-09-05T04:24:31 < aandrew> dunno
2017-09-05T04:25:01 < aandrew> if you are paying to go to school with the intent of a higher paying job, chances are you'll have to understand what you learned in school to some extent
2017-09-05T04:25:14 < ohsix> if
2017-09-05T04:25:24 < ohsix> most people i've actually known don't do it for that
2017-09-05T04:25:34 < ohsix> they're just wasting a few years
2017-09-05T04:25:50 < aandrew> how will they get the higher paying job if they can't demonstrate a basic level of aptitude in whatever it is they went to school for?
2017-09-05T04:25:53 < ohsix> 'better' than zero is really easy
2017-09-05T04:26:00 < ohsix> they can't
2017-09-05T04:26:13 < ohsix> it's a total waste of money, time, and what little effort there was, all of that too
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2017-09-05T04:26:52 < ohsix> my brother is doing some shit right now where it is very obvious whether he's learning or able to use any information he's getting in the classes hes' in, and there's no evidence that there is
2017-09-05T04:27:11 < ohsix> so far all he's been able to manage is washing dishes in a few places that stop operating in the same year
2017-09-05T04:27:17 < ohsix> he's not at school to learn to wash dishes
2017-09-05T04:27:40 < ohsix> he fails it at anything else that the kitchen staff actually needs to do
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2017-09-05T05:12:41 < Rob235> When police raided a rented home in Thailand, they discovered Wang Dong
2017-09-05T05:12:46 < Rob235> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/43yqdd/look-at-this-massive-click-fraud-farm-that-was-just-busted-in-thailand
2017-09-05T05:12:58 < Rob235> I want to meet his parents
2017-09-05T05:13:29 < Rob235> any relation dongs ?
2017-09-05T05:15:32 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVOi2dbtxC0 p. good
2017-09-05T05:15:56 < ohsix> neither of those names are even rare
2017-09-05T05:16:34 < Rob235> but combined they are magical
2017-09-05T05:17:41 < jadew> were they doing it by hand?
2017-09-05T05:17:48 < jadew> (the clickers)
2017-09-05T05:22:10 < jadew> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gyyneb/11-ways-to-post-nipples-on-instagram-without-getting-censored
2017-09-05T05:29:17 < ohsix> that's a very motherboard article
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2017-09-05T10:34:51 < ohsix> big clive making cake fart dialogue references
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2017-09-05T11:09:28 < stvn> ;
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2017-09-05T11:10:05 < Steffanx> Hello welcome
2017-09-05T11:10:46 < stvn> hi sir
2017-09-05T11:16:02 < stvn> well.
2017-09-05T11:16:58 < stvn> today i'd like to discuss, yer powa transforma
2017-09-05T11:20:03 < stvn> Steffanx, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0UJdNJmGJM
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2017-09-05T12:54:43 < stvn> ty
2017-09-05T13:15:12 < jadew> yw
2017-09-05T13:21:45 < Steffanx> Thank you Welcome*
2017-09-05T13:29:00 < stvn>  \o/
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2017-09-05T14:20:45 < englishman> good morning innovators
2017-09-05T14:40:40 < jpa-> are there any clever workarounds for the STM32F4 DMA AHB+APB concurrent access bug?
2017-09-05T14:41:09 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/3IKNfxI
2017-09-05T14:41:13 < Laurenceb_> lulowned
2017-09-05T14:41:14 < jpa-> it's quite limiting when DMA1 can only access APB1, and DMA2 is buggy
2017-09-05T14:43:05 < jpa-> hmm.. though i don't need AHB writes now, so maybe i'm safe for now
2017-09-05T14:48:42 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/os2z9Zw
2017-09-05T14:50:05 < fest> just received proper BMP hardware
2017-09-05T14:50:11 < fest> that thing is tiny
2017-09-05T14:52:30 < zyp> dongs, hey, your new LA thing, can it do ethernet?
2017-09-05T14:53:39 < zyp> I mean, not directly, but if I throw a PHY in front and feed it MII or RMII
2017-09-05T14:56:57 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/3GRbW5t
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2017-09-05T15:07:22 < Thorn> why would you need nvidia tegra 2 and 256MB RAM in a PLC
2017-09-05T15:08:17 < jpa-> to run monitoring displays etc?
2017-09-05T15:08:41 < Steffanx> What version is that fest?
2017-09-05T15:09:03 < Steffanx> I still have my good old one first edition
2017-09-05T15:13:42 < Thorn> yeah looks like you can connect a display to it
2017-09-05T15:13:51 < fest> Steffanx: v2.1
2017-09-05T15:14:34 < fest> Thorn: what PLC is that?
2017-09-05T15:15:35 < fest> Siemens use TI SoCs for their HMI stuff
2017-09-05T15:21:21 < Thorn> fest: http://www.reallab.ru/PLCs_Eng.htm
2017-09-05T15:22:15 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 8ch.net/brit/ got arrested
2017-09-05T15:22:48 < BrainDamage> Thorn: i see your tegra and raise you http://controllino.biz/
2017-09-05T15:23:54 < Thorn> someone already trolled this channel with it
2017-09-05T15:23:55 < Thorn> maybe even me
2017-09-05T15:23:58 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41161233
2017-09-05T15:25:12 < fest> Thorn: those look quite expensive compared to Siemens stuff I've been working with
2017-09-05T15:26:02 < fest> e.g. S7-1200 PLC is ~350USD and their 7" color touch panels were ~700USD
2017-09-05T15:26:24 < fest> the programming environment is quite good, at least compared to codesys
2017-09-05T15:26:48 < fest> and, unless that is your goal, other people can maintain/modify your stuff when you're not interested in that anymore :)
2017-09-05T15:27:05 < fest> er, unless the opposite is your goal
2017-09-05T15:27:06 < Thorn> I was under impression that S7 is outrageously priced
2017-09-05T15:27:33 < fest> their previous S7-300 series was like that
2017-09-05T15:28:08 < fest> and required expensive modules to actually do anything with it
2017-09-05T15:28:33 < fest> S7-1200 has onboard ethernet and some IOs
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2017-09-05T15:50:04 < englishman> Thorn: which one of those are tegra
2017-09-05T15:51:13 < Thorn> looks like their their english language page is outdated
2017-09-05T15:51:54 < Thorn> the first one here http://www.reallab.ru/PLCs.htm?yclid=5174655446783368066
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2017-09-05T15:53:32 < englishman> neat
2017-09-05T15:53:36 < englishman> lot of heat in a small box
2017-09-05T15:54:35 < englishman> hm maybe not, there isnt even a heatsink on the cpu
2017-09-05T15:58:12 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/k2QWPbf.gifv
2017-09-05T16:09:55 < tomeaton17> zyp: Are you there? I am struggling with i2c again
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2017-09-05T16:56:56 < zyp> tomeaton17, I am, but I'm busy
2017-09-05T16:57:24 < zyp> I suggest you just explain your problem and I'll look at it later when I have time
2017-09-05T17:09:56 < jadew> https://i.redd.it/veadqed7dxjz.png
2017-09-05T17:21:32 < tomeaton17> Ok
2017-09-05T17:24:23 < tomeaton17> zyp: I am trying to write to the configuration register of an ADS1015 to start a conversion. According to the trace I am succesfully transferring the data to the slave because it is acking the data. However when I read back the register it unchanged. The trace can be found here https://gyazo.com/collections/8f66e6fa7d00f37dd2ce4ad91f45f99f
2017-09-05T17:40:18 < Laurenceb_> does HAL do anything with usb suspend/resume?
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2017-09-05T17:46:46 < _ami_> zyp: Is it okay to set abp1 freq to 64MHz if clock speed is 128MHz in overclocked stm32f103? is the rule to set abp1 freq = clockspeed/2?
2017-09-05T17:48:22 < qyx> 128MHz for f103?
2017-09-05T17:48:59 < Fleck> :D
2017-09-05T17:49:04 < _ami_> qyx: overclocked
2017-09-05T17:49:17 < qyx> I got that part
2017-09-05T17:49:29 < qyx> but somehow I doubt it is feasible
2017-09-05T17:49:47 < _ami_> qyx: its feasible. i have done it and  other people have also done it.
2017-09-05T17:49:48 < _ami_> it works!
2017-09-05T17:51:06 < qyx> I don't say it shouldn't work
2017-09-05T17:51:09 < qyx> but why would you do it
2017-09-05T17:51:29 < _ami_> qyx: for fast displays
2017-09-05T17:52:09 < Laurenceb_> ok the answer is that HAL does
2017-09-05T17:52:18 < Laurenceb_> but I dont get a resume callback
2017-09-05T17:52:19 < Laurenceb_> weird
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2017-09-05T18:33:59 < Laurenceb_> how do i force a usb device to suspend in lunix?
2017-09-05T18:34:07 < Laurenceb_>  /sys/bus/usb/devices/ something?
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2017-09-05T18:37:31 < Laurenceb_> I only want to suspend the device, not everything on the port
2017-09-05T18:42:25 < Laurenceb_> aha uhubctl
2017-09-05T18:42:33 < Laurenceb_> wow this actually works
2017-09-05T18:42:37 < Laurenceb_> a first for lunix
2017-09-05T18:49:23 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: whoa, where'd you find that cmd
2017-09-05T18:49:37 < Laurenceb_> google is ur friend
2017-09-05T18:50:18 < Laurenceb_> interestingly I get the suspend callback ok
2017-09-05T18:50:33 < Laurenceb_> but then no resume, SetupStageCallback instead
2017-09-05T18:52:12 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: sure, google can be your friend if you know the right words to say :-)
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2017-09-05T19:07:44 < Laurenceb_> looks like lunix isn't implementing suspend resume ... most of the time
2017-09-05T19:07:59 < Laurenceb_> it suspends and resumes when the device is first connected tho
2017-09-05T19:11:43 < Laurenceb_> all very odd - I was wondering if I should implement some mems sleep mode
2017-09-05T19:12:02 < Laurenceb_> problem then would be the wake up transients each time it resumes
2017-09-05T19:24:40 < Laurenceb_> future lunix developers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy3jYIqRIJg
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2017-09-05T19:32:10 < Laurenceb_> ok which ircer is this? https://imgur.com/FJTf9dv
2017-09-05T19:33:01 < aandrew> I'm almost certain that's ohsix but the geo is wrong
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2017-09-05T19:41:51 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_:  only wants to know who it is, because he wants to mate.
2017-09-05T19:48:22 < zyp> Laurenceb_, suspend/resume is just absence/presence of bus traffic
2017-09-05T19:49:07 < zyp> IIRC suspend is trigged if there hasn't been any SOF tokens for 3ms
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2017-09-05T21:54:27 < kakimir> https://images.apina.biz/full/22750.png englishman
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2017-09-05T22:18:38 < Steffanx> mr kakimir.
2017-09-05T22:19:34 < kakimir> mr steffanX
2017-09-05T22:19:51 < Steffanx> How can i help you
2017-09-05T22:20:23 < kakimir> I'm not sure you can
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2017-09-05T22:20:58 < Steffanx> ok, lets give it a try
2017-09-05T22:24:14 < kakimir> let's not
2017-09-05T22:32:51 < Steffanx> ok. Then ill just pray for you
2017-09-05T22:33:24 < kakimir> it will do
2017-09-05T22:33:31 < Steffanx> i know.
2017-09-05T22:35:23 < Steffanx> better relax in a badhus kakimir
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2017-09-05T23:07:41 < englishman> broken link kaks
2017-09-05T23:07:46 < englishman> also porn ads
2017-09-05T23:08:13 < englishman> putting you on the no click list til you learn to use real image hosts
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2017-09-05T23:18:08 < zyp> haha
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2017-09-05T23:44:24 < kakimir> oh they have some sort of tracking
2017-09-05T23:44:53 < kakimir> to not show the pic but show all the pronz
2017-09-05T23:49:32 < kakimir> englishman: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKdWF2cE4yS2xaYnc/view?usp=sharing
2017-09-05T23:49:35 < kakimir> there
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2017-09-05T23:54:23 < englishman> lol
2017-09-05T23:54:25 < englishman> 30C
2017-09-05T23:57:18 < englishman> irma now has 297km/h winds
2017-09-05T23:57:31 < karlp_> irma?
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2017-09-05T23:57:44 < tpw_rules> harvey but for florida
2017-09-05T23:57:57 < tpw_rules> i hope it only takes out mar a lago
2017-09-05T23:57:57 < englishman> harvey but for puerto rico
2017-09-05T23:58:07 < tpw_rules> oh yeah that too
2017-09-05T23:58:10 < englishman> (nobody cares about florida)
2017-09-05T23:58:23 < tpw_rules> puerto rico is dope as hell
2017-09-05T23:58:29 < kakimir> storms are going to destroy whole US?
2017-09-05T23:58:38 < tpw_rules> i'd say more people should go there but they would ruin it
2017-09-05T23:58:39 < Laurenceb__> Censorship and moderators are pure evil.
2017-09-05T23:58:39 < Laurenceb__> User was banned for this post.
2017-09-05T23:58:41 < englishman> i hope so
2017-09-05T23:58:44 < tpw_rules> ^
2017-09-05T23:58:47 < Laurenceb__> 4chan delivers
2017-09-05T23:58:48 < tpw_rules> we deserve it
2017-09-05T23:59:00 < englishman> DPRk missiles will finish the jerb
2017-09-05T23:59:03 < Laurenceb__> dubs 4 us destroyed
2017-09-05T23:59:25 < Laurenceb__> http://www.rrdailyherald.com/news/local/consumers-of-natural-gas-propane-should-not-worry-about-rising/article_f190b08c-9035-11e7-aaef-5b64a290a28b.html
2017-09-05T23:59:32 < Laurenceb__> propane posting 4 evar
2017-09-05T23:59:51 < englishman> as trump fat-fingers the retaliation launch codes
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2017-09-06T00:00:08 < tpw_rules> they probably changed them back to 00000000 just for him
2017-09-06T00:02:57 < karl> st better step up their game: http://www.microchipdirect.com/AVR-SAM-Programming.html
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2017-09-06T00:04:03 < englishman> hmm neat
2017-09-06T00:05:49 < karl> not many non-pic parts yet, but they say will be adding more every week
2017-09-06T00:06:42 < englishman> seems expensive
2017-09-06T00:07:18 < karl> depends what youy're comparing to I guess.
2017-09-06T00:07:54 < karl> isn't it still normally easier to just include programming in  your production test line?
2017-09-06T00:08:04 < karl> or do some people just assemble and ship wihtout test?
2017-09-06T00:09:30 < englishman> it might make sense, dono
2017-09-06T00:09:50 < englishman> chip cost seems high too
2017-09-06T00:09:58 < englishman> vs. china channel partners
2017-09-06T00:10:12 < englishman> why bother offering this service for 25 chips tho?
2017-09-06T00:10:14 < qyx> there is usually some sort of communication with the product on end-of-line testers
2017-09-06T00:10:47 < qyx> so final programming and SN writing and stuff is done there
2017-09-06T00:12:43 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/t8ZnPTY
2017-09-06T00:14:25 < sync> nice tyskie
2017-09-06T00:15:03 < sync> 7/10 would drink
2017-09-06T00:18:27 < karl> englishman: make:r product?
2017-09-06T00:23:35 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/gallery/hU0uZ
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2017-09-06T00:24:12 < ohsix> boogies
2017-09-06T00:24:55 < ohsix> i forgot why i attached to irc
2017-09-06T00:27:06 < kakimir> it takes only seconds to forget everything
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2017-09-06T00:34:00 < ohsix> yes
2017-09-06T00:34:05 < ohsix> especially if it takes a few seconds
2017-09-06T00:34:13 < ohsix> at least it is never important
2017-09-06T00:37:08 < englishman> ha, kaks, i read his book
2017-09-06T00:37:09 < englishman> good stuff
2017-09-06T00:43:31 < ohsix> englishman: microchip has offered programming pretty cheap for everything, this looks like a new thing to let everyone know from a cost perspective & to include avr junk from their acquisition
2017-09-06T00:43:40 < ohsix> also which book
2017-09-06T00:43:56 < ohsix> was only reading the buffer to get the name :|
2017-09-06T01:39:48 < englishman> the mythical man-month
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2017-09-06T01:55:46 < ohsix> ah
2017-09-06T01:57:01 < ohsix> dongs: highinbc is all over freenode, must have lost his job or something
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2017-09-06T01:58:57 < ohsix> hehe
2017-09-06T01:59:12 < ohsix> used to get annoyed trying kicad or something & not having the footprint and stuff associated with the symbol
2017-09-06T01:59:43 < ohsix> now i'm actually trying to use eagle and i just need a fucking pin as a marker and it's library shit is all linked, to find something suitable i have to dig through tyco and other shit
2017-09-06T02:00:11 < englishman> >highinbc
2017-09-06T02:00:12 < englishman> >job
2017-09-06T02:00:23 < englishman> why are you highlighting dong anyway, you know he has you on ignore
2017-09-06T02:07:28 < ohsix> yea
2017-09-06T02:07:42 < ohsix> only for shit he'd probably want to know
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2017-09-06T02:08:13 < ohsix> highinbc was a big figure in getting the gnaa article removed from wikipedia
2017-09-06T02:23:13 < Laurenceb__> lulwut
2017-09-06T02:23:18 < Laurenceb__> serious internet dramaz
2017-09-06T02:23:34 < Laurenceb__> wikipedia has been pruned a bit too much recently tbh
2017-09-06T02:23:41 < Laurenceb__> troll articles make it more fun
2017-09-06T02:24:22 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America
2017-09-06T02:24:27 < Laurenceb__> still there
2017-09-06T02:24:51 < Laurenceb__> https://www.greatnorthairambulance.co.uk/
2017-09-06T02:42:50 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/tYVFUE0
2017-09-06T02:42:54 < Laurenceb__> wtf am I looking at
2017-09-06T02:43:04 < Laurenceb__> this Syria thing is getting a bit homo tbh
2017-09-06T02:43:06 < sync> pixels most likely
2017-09-06T02:43:30 < tpw_rules> i am on board for all of that
2017-09-06T02:43:48 < sync> hm, hytera tetra radio
2017-09-06T02:43:50 < sync> interesting
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2017-09-06T02:47:46 < Laurenceb__> tpw_rules: onboard the chopper?
2017-09-06T02:47:58 < tpw_rules> no on their dicks
2017-09-06T02:48:53 < ohsix> kakimir / englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dllo85ZSUk
2017-09-06T02:48:54 < ohsix> muzak
2017-09-06T02:48:58 < ohsix> Laurenceb__: ^ dig that
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2017-09-06T02:49:34 < Laurenceb__> I read that as EESTOR LOL
2017-09-06T02:50:02 < Laurenceb__> too much trollin
2017-09-06T02:54:21 < ohsix> later in the video they get hoisted up by one leg
2017-09-06T02:55:38 < ohsix> Laurenceb__: back when this shit was going on (wikipedia) ED was still ran by sherrod & was funny
2017-09-06T02:56:19 < Laurenceb__> ohsix is butthurt by ED
2017-09-06T02:56:51 < Laurenceb__> u got trolld by trolls
2017-09-06T02:57:09 < Laurenceb__> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/thumb/2/2f/JK_Rowling_Nazi.PNG/200px-JK_Rowling_Nazi.PNG
2017-09-06T02:57:21 < Laurenceb__> so I luld just fromthe front page
2017-09-06T02:57:29 < ohsix> butthurt isn't exactly it, but maybe close
2017-09-06T02:57:54 < ohsix> you know when something is going on and you're in on the joke, then a bunch of people that take it at face value and start being edgelords show up
2017-09-06T02:58:21 < tpw_rules> ah..., the internet
2017-09-06T02:58:32 < ohsix> exactly
2017-09-06T02:58:35 < Laurenceb__> u take it soo seriously
2017-09-06T02:59:10 < sync> the internet is srs bsnz™
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2017-09-06T03:00:58 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFE9RfxwNPU
2017-09-06T03:01:22 < aadamson> ah too bad, I didn't make a year :(
2017-09-06T03:01:51 < aadamson> Laurenceb__, looks like a year is a film issue more than anything, probably gets brittle is still the guess
2017-09-06T03:02:21 < Laurenceb__> v interesting
2017-09-06T03:02:40 < Laurenceb__> maybe there is some useful info hiding in the altitude data
2017-09-06T03:03:01 < ohsix> you've never read something that was good in obvious comparison with another thing that was not good?
2017-09-06T03:03:14 < ohsix> by way of example
2017-09-06T03:03:25 < ohsix> the blue text references for lots of stuff went to Gay
2017-09-06T03:03:26 < ohsix> not Fag
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2017-09-06T03:03:48 < ohsix> suggesting someone is gay is different than calling them a fag
2017-09-06T03:04:08 < englishman> aadamson: its dead?!?!??!
2017-09-06T03:04:25 < englishman> when was last signal
2017-09-06T03:04:28 < Laurenceb__> now
2017-09-06T03:04:32 < Laurenceb__> but its going down
2017-09-06T03:04:42 < aadamson> still descending
2017-09-06T03:04:43 < englishman> wow
2017-09-06T03:05:05 < englishman> could you retrieve it
2017-09-06T03:05:25 < Laurenceb__> hmm
2017-09-06T03:06:08 < englishman> ha its at flight level
2017-09-06T03:07:23 < englishman> at the rate of descent it could make 1 year
2017-09-06T03:07:27 < Laurenceb__> hmmm
2017-09-06T03:07:38 < Laurenceb__> I could ting mydad
2017-09-06T03:07:44 < Laurenceb__> I canna spell
2017-09-06T03:07:56 < Laurenceb__> he is in Tabasco
2017-09-06T03:08:17 < aadamson> is going down about a 1.0 m/s it's just that I don't have good WSPR right now, because the sun is setting and it's getting low
2017-09-06T03:08:33 < aadamson> so when I only get one WSPR spot I only have altitude at 1000's of meters resolution
2017-09-06T03:08:44 < Laurenceb__> if we get WSPR fromthe ground or near ground it might be recoverable
2017-09-06T03:08:58 < Laurenceb__> my dad might think it's a fun idea... dunno
2017-09-06T03:09:22 < Laurenceb__> or he might just be grumpy out of spite...
2017-09-06T03:09:22 < aadamson> it has APRS too, but no infrastructure for APRS in the airea
2017-09-06T03:09:53 < Laurenceb__> ok, I need to sleep, be back tomorrow, I could legit ring my dad if it gets WSPR near the ground
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2017-09-06T03:13:47 < ohsix> aadamson: you work with Laurenceb__ on baloon stuff?
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2017-09-06T03:14:30 < aadamson> sorta, he's in the UK and I'm in atlanta, so only because we share the same hobby and know *of* one another
2017-09-06T03:14:50 < ohsix> nice
2017-09-06T03:18:40 < ohsix> wspr sounds familiar
2017-09-06T03:18:55 < ohsix> oh hm
2017-09-06T03:19:05 < ohsix> how does that help locate it?
2017-09-06T03:19:18 < ohsix> other wspr nodes being able to localize it?
2017-09-06T03:20:06 < ohsix> :< lego cuttong 1400 jerbs
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2017-09-06T03:34:00 < ohsix> uhh, wtf would a board to wire spade connector be called if not spade
2017-09-06T03:40:49 < ohsix> ack, 'tab'
2017-09-06T03:40:50 < ohsix> dumb
2017-09-06T03:40:51 < ohsix> bbl
2017-09-06T03:48:14 < gxti> the wspr transmission includes a grid locator (rough gps coordinates), so anyone who decodes it knows where it (thinks it) is
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2017-09-06T04:06:40 < ohsix> gxti: cool
2017-09-06T04:06:47 < ohsix> i'd not thought much about that kind of use for ham stuff
2017-09-06T04:06:58 < ohsix> getting license soon and deferring a lot of reading until i do
2017-09-06T04:07:05 < ohsix> https://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/344090/tinder-date-ends-with-woman-stuck-in-window-reaching-for-bag-of-her-own-shit/
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2017-09-06T04:21:35 < goy> stm
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2017-09-06T04:25:42 < jadew> lol ohsix
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2017-09-06T04:49:38 < aandrew> dont' know wtf that was
2017-09-06T04:56:38 < jadew> I share your feelings
2017-09-06T04:57:39 < englishman> https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lorne-armstrong-rso
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2017-09-06T05:02:42 < jadew> so that clip is from the show?
2017-09-06T05:03:45 < englishman> yea http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mpyqi
2017-09-06T05:04:32 < jadew> hmm, speaking of pizza, doesn't sound bad
2017-09-06T05:04:48 < jadew> maybe I should call him up and say I'm a 13 yo girl
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2017-09-06T06:11:59 < lomas> Anyone suggest me an example code of timer based reception of bytes at USART of STM32 ?
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2017-09-06T08:01:15 < dongs> zyp, i dont see it. doesnt ethernet require differential shit
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2017-09-06T08:01:23 < dongs> in either case, dont see ethernet or RMII type stuff
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2017-09-06T08:44:29 < emeb_mac> dongs: know of a good 3.3V - 5V (single supply) stereo headphone driver that doesn't need giant caps?
2017-09-06T08:44:40 < emeb_mac> and comes in a non-bga pkg?
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2017-09-06T09:15:50 < c10ud^> do you think bluetooth could do it for real time broadcasting a few vars from a number (20+) of devices to a single gateway (android-something)?
2017-09-06T09:16:19 < c10ud^> also in terms of range i would need around 70m in LOS
2017-09-06T09:16:46 < zyp> dongs, yes, that's why I figured it'd have to capture on the MAC-side of the PHY
2017-09-06T09:26:17 < Thorn> iirc max power for bluetooth is +4dBm, and GAP advertisement packet has a 32 byte payload
2017-09-06T09:28:15 < c10ud^> i see class1 (20dBm) + piconet could be an option, but yes the advertisement packet could be more than enough
2017-09-06T09:28:39 < c10ud^> however I don't think android will have a class1 rx
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2017-09-06T09:29:21 < c10ud^> maybe I can just rx and no interaction at such distances, I have to think about it
2017-09-06T09:30:12 < Thorn> I'm currently trying to get iBeacons working with my android app. it appears that many cheap devices have really horrible bluetooth interfaces
2017-09-06T09:30:44 < Thorn> like they take at least 5 seconds for a GAP scan and only return 1 packet per MAC per scan
2017-09-06T09:32:06 < c10ud^> well also android sucks a bit, I remember the guy coding an app for an application using rn42 (iirc) had horrible issues with android caching stuff hence not showing updates to charateristics or something like that
2017-09-06T09:32:07 < Thorn> so if your devices sends multiple advertisements (such as connectable + ibeacon) there is no telling which one will be received (if any lol)
2017-09-06T09:32:30 < Thorn> I haven't tried GATT yet
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2017-09-06T09:51:30 < daey> i am looking at the ethernet section of the stm32f405/.....
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2017-09-06T09:52:35 < daey> it shows a longish ethernet register map, which is fine. but at the same time im reading "Ethernet DMA Controller" everywhere. does it need additional memory as a buffer to actually work?
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2017-09-06T09:52:52 < zyp> yes
2017-09-06T09:53:28 < zyp> it doesn't have internal packet buffers, data to send is sucked directly out of normal sram
2017-09-06T09:53:35 < zyp> or written there
2017-09-06T09:53:41 < zyp> assuming that's where you point it
2017-09-06T09:53:41 < daey> i see. but the registers are internal?
2017-09-06T09:54:00 < zyp> registers are internal, but the buffer descriptors are also stored in ram and read through DMA
2017-09-06T09:54:59 < daey> i see.
2017-09-06T09:56:06 < zyp> https://cgit.jvnv.net/laks_demo/tree/main.cpp?h=ethernet <- I have some simple code here that I wrote once
2017-09-06T09:56:22 < zyp> it sets up two 2048B buffers with a dma descriptor each and starts receiving to them
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2017-09-06T09:57:46 < zyp> it doesn't do anything with the received packages apart from logging them though
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2017-09-06T10:20:18 < daey> zyp: that code looks like you extended C with the C++ class feature :^)
2017-09-06T10:33:41 < Thorn> >main.cpp
2017-09-06T10:34:02 < ohsix> RBoner<1, 2>
2017-09-06T10:35:34 < ohsix> how shit do you think this is https://www.aliexpress.com/item/12V-Power-HAM-RADIO-40M-CW-Shortwave-QRP-Pixie-Transmitter-Receiver-Module-7-023MHz-7-026MHz/32822254685.html
2017-09-06T10:35:53 < ohsix> i'm gonna get a few so new ham pal can try beeping from random places
2017-09-06T10:36:52 < ohsix> oh waaat haha they took off the bnc and stuff, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DIY-RADIO-40M-CW-Shortwave-Transmitter-QRP-Pixie-Kit-Receiver-7-023-7-026MHz-Short-Wave/32822274153.html meant more like this one
2017-09-06T10:37:25 < ohsix> huh it is cheaper on banggood
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2017-09-06T10:45:48 < ohsix> heh, aliexpress defends seller ratings when they issue refunds over a dispute
2017-09-06T10:46:21 < ohsix> like, avoiding needless damage, doesn't show up in public, they probably debit their accuont and keep a private score. it is a neat way to go
2017-09-06T10:48:32 < ohsix> Positive Feedback is calculated by dividing the past 6 months of 4 and 5 star ratings by the total number of positive and negative ratings from the same time period.
2017-09-06T10:48:34 < ohsix> huhuhu
2017-09-06T10:53:40 < Thorn> l0l OTV-5 launch is tomorrow but launch time is still unknown
2017-09-06T10:56:37 < ohsix> what country?
2017-09-06T10:57:14 < Thorn> Trumpistan
2017-09-06T11:20:01 < qyx> what's the smallest stm32 package?
2017-09-06T11:20:11 < qyx> is it that uvqfnp28 4x4 F0?
2017-09-06T11:20:21 < qyx> cannot find anything smaller
2017-09-06T11:20:33 < qyx> 3x3 qfn16 or something :S
2017-09-06T11:22:41 < qyx> oh, L0 in UFQFPN20 3x3 mm
2017-09-06T11:23:13 < qyx> 2x2mm wlcsp too
2017-09-06T11:30:28 < ohsix> cube is good for questions
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2017-09-06T12:15:20 < tomeaton17> Does anyone know of a tool that can calculate a crc checksum given data and polynomial?
2017-09-06T12:19:26 < jpa-> IIRC pycrc can do it
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2017-09-06T12:24:35 < fest> http://reveng.sourceforge.net/readme.htm has been useful for me
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2017-09-06T12:37:18 < tomeaton17> Cool they both look good, I will give them a go. Thanks.
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2017-09-06T13:28:24 < qyx> there are also some online tools
2017-09-06T13:28:58 < tomeaton17> I am bit confused with which model to choose because the data sheet only tells me the polynomial and the starting value
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2017-09-06T14:04:00 < tomeaton17> Does anyone know if you can use the HAL CRC modules with 8 bit data instead of 32 bit?
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2017-09-06T14:13:13 < tomeaton17> Hm it doesn't look like it, you can't even use a custom polynomial. I will have make the algorithm myself
2017-09-06T14:14:33 < karl> step away from the koolaid man, what are you tryign to actually do?
2017-09-06T14:14:39 < karl> you're on an f1 right?
2017-09-06T14:14:55 < karl> are you trying to use the CRC peripheral and match it up with host code crc?
2017-09-06T14:17:55 < tomeaton17> karl: I am trying to using the CRC peripheral with a custom polynomial and with data which is not 32 bits
2017-09-06T14:18:19 < karl> are you on an f1?
2017-09-06T14:18:25 < tomeaton17> Yes
2017-09-06T14:18:31 < karl> you can't use a custom polynomial then.
2017-09-06T14:18:55 < karl> you can write 8bit data to the crc periph, you just need to be aware of how it's doing the calculations.
2017-09-06T14:19:02 < tomeaton17> Damn. I will have to make the algorithm myself then. Great...
2017-09-06T14:19:14 < karl> did you even read the crc section in the ref man?
2017-09-06T14:19:23 < karl> it's pretty expolicit that the polynomial is x and can't be cahnged.
2017-09-06T14:19:31 < karl> the newer parts have configurable polynomials.
2017-09-06T14:19:48 < tomeaton17> Yeah thats why I said you cant even use a custom polynomial
2017-09-06T14:20:17 < karl> right, but what's the goal?
2017-09-06T14:20:33 < karl> are you in control of the host software?
2017-09-06T14:20:54 < tomeaton17> The chip I am interfacing with via I2C requires a CRC checksum at the end of communication or it nacks you
2017-09-06T14:22:28 < tomeaton17> And no
2017-09-06T14:25:06 < karl> right, then you can just forget about the crc peripheral.  carry on.
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2017-09-06T14:35:06 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/KNsvUgu
2017-09-06T14:35:11 < Laurenceb_> this looks "fun"
2017-09-06T14:36:48 < c10ud^> nice screen resolution
2017-09-06T14:40:39 < tomeaton17> Damn 4:3
2017-09-06T14:41:03 < Laurenceb_> yeah, perfect resolution
2017-09-06T14:41:29 < karl> are those jumbtron 2.54mm headers?
2017-09-06T14:41:43 < Laurenceb_> no, 2mm
2017-09-06T14:41:55 < Laurenceb_> also they are just holes for the usb cable to connect
2017-09-06T14:45:29 < englishman> florida is 100% sold out of beer, water and ammo
2017-09-06T14:45:29 < englishman> lol
2017-09-06T14:54:18 < Laurenceb_> 28 airwires...
2017-09-06T15:16:20 < sync> just go 28 layer
2017-09-06T15:27:54 < englishman> EAGLE
2017-09-06T15:29:13 < Laurenceb_> has anyone tried putting vias under one of the ST LGA packages?
2017-09-06T15:39:56 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/h8cS9tz
2017-09-06T15:40:01 < Laurenceb_> routing intensifies
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2017-09-06T15:48:54 < Laurenceb_> I don't think this is going to work :S
2017-09-06T15:49:29 < tomeaton17> Right I have no idea how to start on making this crc algorithm
2017-09-06T15:49:33 < Laurenceb_> might have to respin the injection moulds
2017-09-06T15:58:25 < sync> doesn't look that impossible tho
2017-09-06T16:01:15 < aandrew> tomeaton17: sure - you build up a 32 bit word and do it
2017-09-06T16:01:57 < aandrew> tomeaton17: what chip are you working with
2017-09-06T16:04:45 < Laurenceb_> maybes
2017-09-06T16:04:56 < Laurenceb_> time to chill out and read black alex jones https://imgur.com/9zAluQJ
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2017-09-06T16:29:09 < englishman> aandrew: its f1, pretty crippled crc periph
2017-09-06T16:29:33 < aandrew> yeah F2 also has craptastic CRC periph
2017-09-06T16:31:43 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/MqwR91s
2017-09-06T16:31:57 < englishman> Laurenceb_: guess he doesnt know irma originated as an "african tropical wave"
2017-09-06T16:32:32 < englishman> lol map
2017-09-06T16:32:43 < englishman> implying san francisco is "livable"
2017-09-06T16:33:11 < Laurenceb_> >When you build the first empire in human history but some obese jew ruins your legacy 4,000 years later
2017-09-06T16:33:39 < Laurenceb_> http://www.ancient.eu/uploads/images/161.jpg?v=1485680515
2017-09-06T16:34:07 < Laurenceb_> >Strap a generator to his grave and we'd be able to power the entire fucking world with how fast he's spinning.
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2017-09-06T16:34:11 < Laurenceb_> 4chan delivers
2017-09-06T16:41:17 < tomeaton17> aandrew: with the f1, I can't do a custom polynomial so its useless using the crc periph
2017-09-06T16:42:08 < Laurenceb_> yeah
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2017-09-06T16:54:24 < aandrew> tomeaton17: no I understand. I had the same issue on F2
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2017-09-06T17:00:59 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/b5faNXN
2017-09-06T17:01:03 < Laurenceb_> victory
2017-09-06T17:04:37 < Laurenceb_> anywhere cheaper than seeed studio?
2017-09-06T17:04:53 < Laurenceb_> I need 4/4mil 2 layer with 8mil vias
2017-09-06T17:05:14 < Laurenceb_> seed is $12/board :S
2017-09-06T17:07:44 < englishman> theres a million places cheaper than clonerstudio
2017-09-06T17:07:55 < englishman> but even if you pay $0/board you have chinapost, or dhl
2017-09-06T17:08:01 < englishman> far outweighs the cost of the board
2017-09-06T17:08:25 < englishman> 8/12 vias? lol
2017-09-06T17:08:36 < englishman> fix your stuff you dont need that
2017-09-06T17:10:10 < zyp> have you considered 4L instead of crazy spec 2L?
2017-09-06T17:15:22 < tomeaton17> aandrew: Luckily linus has made a program to do it for me
2017-09-06T17:17:00 < Laurenceb_> 4L is still going to need vias
2017-09-06T17:21:48 < Laurenceb_> maybe 5/5 with slightly larger vias
2017-09-06T17:22:43 < fest> where exactly does it have to fit in?
2017-09-06T17:27:45 < Laurenceb_> 12.5mm diameter pcb for injection mould
2017-09-06T17:28:28 < Laurenceb_> looks like pcbtrain will do 8mil vias with 6/6 copper for about UKP1/board
2017-09-06T17:32:08 < Laurenceb_> 8mil holes is fairly standard
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2017-09-06T17:41:45 < Laurenceb_> does NRST need a decoupling cap if its unused?
2017-09-06T17:42:04 < jadew> anyone got access to a VNA that works up to 15 GHz and is willing to characterise a component for me? I'll provide the test board
2017-09-06T17:55:17 < englishman> how do i force-add a net to altidumb with no pins, for protective earth
2017-09-06T17:56:03 < gxti> it's not very protective if it has no pins
2017-09-06T17:56:17 < englishman> its also a mounting hole tho
2017-09-06T17:56:25 < englishman> guess i have to make the mounting hole a component
2017-09-06T17:56:43 < gxti> there might be a project option to keep orphaned nets, i dunno
2017-09-06T17:56:57 < gxti> or you can just have objects with no net, that's fine too.
2017-09-06T17:57:09 < englishman> yeah but i need to connect those objects together
2017-09-06T17:57:24 < englishman> i can manually add a net to the netlist in pcb, but then it's cleared out again when i import from schematic
2017-09-06T17:57:34 < englishman> just going to make a component ;/
2017-09-06T17:58:17 < englishman> holy shit fuck arrow
2017-09-06T17:58:27 < englishman> literally buying 74,460 USD of shit
2017-09-06T17:58:30 < englishman> want to charge $12 shipping
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2017-09-06T17:59:47 < sync> lol
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2017-09-06T18:02:45 < jadew> haha
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2017-09-06T18:31:16 < Getty> https://i.imgur.com/HCOFrAR.jpg
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2017-09-06T18:40:25 < karl> Laurenceb_: go read the fucking "getting startd with xxx hw" manual like we tell everyone else to do
2017-09-06T18:41:20 < englishman> how thick is that PCB laurent
2017-09-06T18:41:35 < englishman> i got china to do a board with high aspect ratio vias and like 1% of them were open
2017-09-06T18:41:54 < englishman> or like 30megohm
2017-09-06T18:42:16 < karl> "high" aspect ratio?
2017-09-06T18:42:25 < karl> narrow and tall you mean?
2017-09-06T18:42:27 < englishman> yeah like 8mil drills on 1.6mm pcb
2017-09-06T18:42:29 < englishman> yeah
2017-09-06T18:43:34 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/lUGbaem
2017-09-06T18:43:37 < Laurenceb_> 0.8mm pcb
2017-09-06T18:43:45 < Laurenceb_> I'm gunna try pcbtrain
2017-09-06T18:43:55 < Laurenceb_> hopefully no pubes this time
2017-09-06T18:44:28 < Laurenceb_> wonder how they made the "lacqure"
2017-09-06T18:45:47 < englishman> they are just going to send it to allpcb.com and charge you a %age
2017-09-06T18:46:00 < Laurenceb_> heh maybe
2017-09-06T18:46:01 < englishman> probably shipped by train overland, hence the name
2017-09-06T18:46:07 < Laurenceb_> supposedly they have a factory
2017-09-06T18:46:25 < Laurenceb_>  *shrug*, ordered now
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2017-09-06T18:52:21 < Laurenceb_> soldering funtimes await
2017-09-06T18:52:30 < Laurenceb_> prob easier than LSM9DS1
2017-09-06T18:53:18 < Laurenceb_> and retarded H&S fascist pestering me about encapsulation resins
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2017-09-06T19:12:19 < Laurenceb_> maybe I could make some extra to sell to ardutards/Rpi crowd
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2017-09-06T19:52:06 < aandrew> hm
2017-09-06T19:52:23 < aandrew> my M0 bootloader works correctly but the bootloaded program crashes shortly after main()
2017-09-06T19:52:50 < aandrew> I wonder if I should have my bootloader startup code look for a magic value and jump to the app instead of jumping ot the app normally
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2017-09-06T19:56:42 < aandrew> nah it's my m0 interrupt handler
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2017-09-06T20:06:10 < aandrew> I'm a fucking idiot, that is what the problem is
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2017-09-06T20:06:58 < aandrew> m0 has no relocatable table, so the bootloader I wrote has a generic ISR. It looks at an SRAM loc to see if the bootloader is active or not and, if not, looks up the application's ISR for the given vector
2017-09-06T20:07:11 < aandrew> that location at SRAM isn't protected when the application's running. I'm an idiot.
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2017-09-06T20:41:35 < englishman> aandrew are you incorporated or just bill ppl in your name
2017-09-06T20:42:01 < aandrew> englishman: I'm inc
2017-09-06T20:42:17 < englishman> whats your opinion on the new corp tax the libs are putting in
2017-09-06T20:42:26 < englishman> morneau was named in the panama papers btw
2017-09-06T20:42:33 < englishman> has millions in the bahamas
2017-09-06T20:43:22 < Rob235> can you 3d print a piece that has a hollow tube to route wires through? or will it collapse on itself?
2017-09-06T20:43:32 < Rob235> the overhang shouldn't be too much right?
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2017-09-06T22:23:30 < tpw_rules> i think it works if you're careful
2017-09-06T22:23:42 < tpw_rules> but why not rotate it so the tube is on the z axis?
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2017-09-06T22:53:28 < Laurenceb__> https://pastebin.com/UX41K84V
2017-09-06T23:01:28 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/k6ZtTY4
2017-09-06T23:03:03 < Laurenceb__> which irc user is this? https://imgur.com/rIMnweM
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2017-09-06T23:04:29 < Steffanx> must be your friend from scotland
2017-09-06T23:08:21 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/EbcZEdz
2017-09-06T23:09:45 < Steffanx> do you want me love Laurenceb__?
2017-09-06T23:14:21 < kakimir> enought fot he day Laurenceb__
2017-09-06T23:14:23 < kakimir> for
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2017-09-06T23:40:36 < Laurenceb__> woah https://www.pcbtrain.co.uk/resources/pcb-train-free-components-list/
2017-09-06T23:41:20 < ohsix> isn't that sort of normal for pcba
2017-09-06T23:41:48 < ohsix> setting up the machine to use alternate parts costs more than that subset of the parts
2017-09-06T23:42:07 < Laurenceb__> free implies they are ripping off money elsewhere
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2017-09-06T23:42:35 < ohsix> not for pick & place
2017-09-06T23:43:07 < ohsix> changing a reel out to use the resistors & some other shit you provide is worth more than the whole reel
2017-09-06T23:43:40 < ohsix> or to take a slot you need for more expensive parts
2017-09-06T23:48:34 < zyp> yeah, they probably make the cost of the parts back in saving time on P&P setup
2017-09-06T23:48:47 < zyp> generic passives costs ~nothing anyway
2017-09-06T23:49:52 < englishman> damn this sam3x
2017-09-06T23:49:58 < englishman> two power rails basically means 4L is required
2017-09-06T23:50:11 < zyp> haha
2017-09-06T23:50:18 < zyp> got a pinout pic?
2017-09-06T23:50:37 < englishman> er, probably easise to google arduino due schematic
2017-09-06T23:50:37 < ohsix> what's the second one for, analog or something?
2017-09-06T23:50:49 < englishman> 1.8v rail required routing around etc
2017-09-06T23:51:03 < ohsix> huh
2017-09-06T23:51:12 < ohsix> is it able to use sdram?
2017-09-06T23:51:25 < englishman> not to mention all the analolgue rails yeah, but it has usb hs psy inside so i understand a bit
2017-09-06T23:52:41 < englishman> not even that, you need to take the 1.8v rail, add filters and send it back to VDDPLL
2017-09-06T23:52:44 < englishman> and so on
2017-09-06T23:52:58 < zyp> fun fun
2017-09-06T23:53:20 < zyp> having an excuse to do 4L isn't all that bad though
2017-09-06T23:53:24 < englishman> just going to say sorry bro, your project now costs 3x because you upgraded to latest tarduino
2017-09-06T23:54:06 < englishman> the rest of the board doesnt require it tho :(
2017-09-06T23:54:08 < zyp> I like doing 4L designs, so I tend to look at how to justify it rather than how to avoid it
2017-09-06T23:58:26 < englishman> yeah the rest of the board will be much easier
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2017-09-07T00:01:09 < qyx> just avoid sam3x then
2017-09-07T00:02:11 < qyx> recently I ordered some M12 connectors
2017-09-07T00:02:30 < qyx> today I discovered that exactly half of them are A coded, the second half B coded
2017-09-07T00:02:48 < qyx> no mating today
2017-09-07T00:02:58 < zyp> what's that?
2017-09-07T00:03:03 < zyp> keying?
2017-09-07T00:03:05 < qyx> yes
2017-09-07T00:03:13 < zyp> oh, didn't know M12 had that
2017-09-07T00:03:18 < zyp> how many variants are there?
2017-09-07T00:03:29 < qyx> there are a few
2017-09-07T00:03:38 < qyx> a, b, c, d, x
2017-09-07T00:03:41 < qyx> or something like that
2017-09-07T00:03:44 < zyp> the stuff I'm doing at work will use M12
2017-09-07T00:04:02 < qyx> https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1ZethFVXXXXa2XVXXq6xXFXXXA/221337780/HTB1ZethFVXXXXa2XVXXq6xXFXXXA.jpg
2017-09-07T00:04:09 < zyp> but I'm not doing the hardware design, so I haven't looked too much into the details
2017-09-07T00:05:37 < qyx> for less industrial designs it is easier to just use some weipu or similar stuff
2017-09-07T00:05:57 < qyx> cheaper and smaller
2017-09-07T00:06:00 < qyx> and still IP68
2017-09-07T00:06:02 < zyp> this is totally industrial design though
2017-09-07T00:06:14 < qyx> although M12 is waterproof even when unmated
2017-09-07T00:06:22 < qyx> weipu shit don't
2017-09-07T00:06:27 < englishman> qyx: not my project, paid by the hour etc
2017-09-07T00:06:37 < englishman> but, i totally agree
2017-09-07T00:06:58 < englishman> they only need some pwms and usb VCP
2017-09-07T00:07:03 < qyx> *is not
2017-09-07T00:07:07 < englishman> solution: spend thousands on tarduino
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2017-09-07T00:09:50  * Laurenceb__ is reading xkcdsucks comments
2017-09-07T00:10:04 < Laurenceb__> apparently Monroe needs a waterproof mini laptop
2017-09-07T00:10:31 < Laurenceb__> for when he fulfils his dream of being shrunk down and sent back into his mum
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2017-09-07T00:13:38 < qyx> isn't he munroe
2017-09-07T00:18:20 < Laurenceb__> qyx confirmed as xkcd nerd
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2017-09-07T00:22:10 < Laurenceb__> anyone know of a source of documented CE compliant USB isolators?
2017-09-07T00:24:32 < Laurenceb__> http://intona.eu/pub/USB_High_Speed_Isolator_EN.pdf
2017-09-07T00:24:40 < Laurenceb__> looks nice but can't find any documentation
2017-09-07T00:24:56 < Laurenceb__> >Audiophile-grade home systems
2017-09-07T00:24:58 < Laurenceb__> top kek
2017-09-07T00:30:42 < Laurenceb__> hmm
2017-09-07T00:30:52 < Laurenceb__> is there a way to search FCC database by company name?
2017-09-07T00:34:43 < Laurenceb__> nvm found the baby I need https://iftools.com/isolator/isousb/index.en.php
2017-09-07T00:41:21 < Laurenceb__> >this will be glued inside a box with a hub and recertified as a "base unit"
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2017-09-07T01:32:04 < englishman> never forget that zano was at CES
2017-09-07T01:32:35 < kakimir> it's been like 3years
2017-09-07T01:32:38 < kakimir> time to forget
2017-09-07T01:32:56 < aandrew> I almost never do 2L designs anymore
2017-09-07T01:33:03 < englishman> same
2017-09-07T01:33:21 < englishman> but this one was entirely 0805 and shit with lots of extra room
2017-09-07T01:33:32 < englishman> now to have any kind of signal integrity 4L is required
2017-09-07T02:05:20 < Laurenceb__> holy shit
2017-09-07T02:05:33 < Laurenceb__> BBC have Zubrin from nasaspaceflight.com forum
2017-09-07T02:05:35 < Laurenceb__> wew
2017-09-07T02:06:03 < Laurenceb__> he keeps repeating *I'm a gunna explode all bacteria*
2017-09-07T02:06:14 < Laurenceb__> even more crackpot irl
2017-09-07T02:06:42 < Laurenceb__> reporter is looking scared
2017-09-07T02:08:22 < Laurenceb__> CLEANING IS A FALLACY,JUST EXPLODE ALL BACTERIA
2017-09-07T02:09:10 < sync> link pls
2017-09-07T02:09:53 < Laurenceb__> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b094f595
2017-09-07T02:10:12 < Laurenceb__> > by a handful of mavericks
2017-09-07T02:10:17 < Laurenceb__> lul understatement
2017-09-07T02:12:03 < Laurenceb__> that guy hangs on efnet too
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2017-09-07T03:05:32 < ohsix> aadamson: how is wspr used on balloons? is it an accepted use to not have the maidenhead location in your messages?
2017-09-07T03:06:34 < ohsix> or is it a best effort thing where only parties interested in that call look
2017-09-07T03:08:07 < ohsix> i've got a few problems myself and some other people want to solve that are all roughly localization problems, but i can't just use gps and ping it out or send it via phone
2017-09-07T03:11:34 < aandrew> https://pastebin.com/39n0Qq1d
2017-09-07T03:11:36 < aandrew> am I being stupid here?
2017-09-07T03:11:56 < aandrew> I'm trying to look at the value of POWER->GPREGRET and compare it to 0x1
2017-09-07T03:12:11 < aandrew> of course it's thumb so everything is more difficult than it should be
2017-09-07T03:12:39 < aandrew> but it strikes me as odd that I have to load the value at an address nearby, then dereference it twice
2017-09-07T03:12:56 < tpw_rules> you shouldn't have to dereference it twice
2017-09-07T03:13:00 < aandrew> I mean the code works, it just looks goofy to me
2017-09-07T03:13:04 < aandrew> tpw_rules: sure you do
2017-09-07T03:13:13 < tpw_rules> oh yeah
2017-09-07T03:13:14 < tpw_rules> i misread
2017-09-07T03:13:32 < aandrew> r1 = addr that holds the address I want to look at, then r1 = the address I want to look at, the r1 = the value at the address I'm interested in
2017-09-07T03:14:10 < tpw_rules> well what is the benefit of the =gpregret_reg syntax?
2017-09-07T03:14:29 < aandrew> it's not a benefit, it's the way you load arbitrary 32-bit values
2017-09-07T03:14:41 < tpw_rules> it's an assembler macro iirc
2017-09-07T03:14:46 < tpw_rules> effectively
2017-09-07T03:14:49 < aandrew> correct
2017-09-07T03:15:03 < tpw_rules> that automatically shoves &gpregret_reg at the end of the function and loads that, then loads r1, [r1] again
2017-09-07T03:15:18 < tpw_rules> so why don't you just say =0x4000051c
2017-09-07T03:15:20 < aandrew> basically works out as ldr r1, [pc, #offset] where that offset is computed
2017-09-07T03:15:32 < aandrew> I tried that, ti was being a pain
2017-09-07T03:15:38 < aandrew> let me try it again, maybe I was just being stupid
2017-09-07T03:15:51 < tpw_rules> i think you were, you've added an extra level of indirection for no reason
2017-09-07T03:16:48 < aandrew> yeah that worked
2017-09-07T03:17:04 < aandrew> no additional redirection though
2017-09-07T03:17:13 < aandrew> it still ends up having to be ldr r1, [r1] twice
2017-09-07T03:17:23 < tpw_rules> yeah but before it was thrice
2017-09-07T03:17:30 < aandrew> hm?
2017-09-07T03:17:43 < aandrew>      29c:	4909      	ldr	r1, [pc, #36]	; (2c4 <clenr0_reg+0x4>)
2017-09-07T03:17:43 < aandrew>      29e:	6809      	ldr	r1, [r1, #0]
2017-09-07T03:17:43 < aandrew>      2a0:	6809      	ldr	r1, [r1, #0]
2017-09-07T03:17:44 < aandrew>      2a2:	2901      	cmp	r1, #1
2017-09-07T03:17:53 < aandrew> 0x29c didn't change
2017-09-07T03:18:03 < tpw_rules> what's your inputc ode now
2017-09-07T03:18:06 < tpw_rules> input code*
2017-09-07T03:18:57 < tpw_rules> although i guess the compiler is smart enough to resolve =gpregret_reg to pc relative
2017-09-07T03:19:02 < tpw_rules> cause it's close enough
2017-09-07T03:20:28 < tpw_rules> you still don't need two indirections
2017-09-07T03:20:37 < tpw_rules> ldr r1, [pc, #36] sets r1 to 0x4000051c
2017-09-07T03:20:48 < tpw_rules> then ldr r1, [r1], sets r1 to the value at 0x4000051c
2017-09-07T03:20:57 < tpw_rules> then you cmp and be on your way
2017-09-07T03:24:20 < aadamson> ohsix, I use 2 radios, one on VHF one on HF and I generate WSPR in a protocol tweat that allows me to encode telemetry
2017-09-07T03:24:33 < aandrew> hm yeah I think you're right
2017-09-07T03:24:37 < aandrew> I was being stupid
2017-09-07T03:30:01 < aandrew> yep you're right, just tested it
2017-09-07T03:30:07 < aandrew> thank god, I knew it was looking goofy
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2017-09-07T03:36:28 < Thorn> >Store name: All goods are freeshipping Store
2017-09-07T03:36:34 < Thorn> >Shipping: US $1.54
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2017-09-07T03:44:19 < aandrew> haha
2017-09-07T03:44:34 < aandrew> that's like here we have dollar stores where everything is $1, and there are items that are $2 and $5 there
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2017-09-07T03:53:05 < aandrew> stupid #2 - GPREGRET is an 8-bit register, not a 32-bit one. fail.
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2017-09-07T04:10:44 < gxti> regret
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2017-09-07T04:25:11 < englishman> general purpose regret
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2017-09-07T05:07:13 < Thorn> englishman: where are you buying cheap stm8? I'm looking for stm8s103f3p6 on aliexpress and all popular lots seem to have negative reviews (doa, factory rejects etc.) and digikey has them for $1 / qty 100
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2017-09-07T06:13:31 < emeb_mac> flux?
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2017-09-07T06:22:28 < emeb_mac> tantalum
2017-09-07T06:25:25 < dongs> hi dongs
2017-09-07T06:25:44 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA fucking lol
2017-09-07T06:25:53 < dongs> homeless faggot
2017-09-07T06:31:56 < emeb_mac> what a kludge
2017-09-07T06:33:12 < dongs> is that fucking kikecad
2017-09-07T06:33:13 < dongs> hes using
2017-09-07T06:33:25 < dongs> EESchema Schematic File Version 2
2017-09-07T06:33:57 < dongs> or is that GEDA
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2017-09-07T06:47:14 < englishman> i flipped thru all 30 minutes of that, time i will never get back
2017-09-07T06:48:05 < dongs> haha
2017-09-07T06:48:12 < dongs> literally non-stop autism, fo sure
2017-09-07T06:48:17 < englishman> is there a reason for white people to live in shenzhen except for extreme tarduinoing
2017-09-07T06:48:35 < dongs> maybe hes hoping to get his dick sucked by sexycyborg
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2017-09-07T07:01:08 < dongs> autism amplifier?
2017-09-07T07:01:18 < dongs> you dont need that, just /lastlog o6
2017-09-07T07:01:33 < dongs> corner of my finger and fingernail under it is turning blue
2017-09-07T07:01:37 < dongs> er, by blue i mean white
2017-09-07T07:01:39 < dongs> that cant be good right
2017-09-07T07:02:43 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA5qYrboTUE
2017-09-07T07:04:29 < dongs> how the fuck did they have internet for so long
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2017-09-07T10:31:09 < ohsix> aadamson: ah so you're not necessarily participating in the wspr network?
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2017-09-07T10:58:38 < ReadErr> https://youtu.be/dOvVgXIPTL0?t=11638
2017-09-07T10:58:40 < ReadErr> hilarious
2017-09-07T10:59:13 < ReadErr> black guy
2017-09-07T10:59:20 < ReadErr> catches him sayin 'n*gga'
2017-09-07T10:59:27 < ReadErr> bout has to fight a crackhead
2017-09-07T10:59:52 < ReadErr> 'its 2017 dude'
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2017-09-07T11:36:44 < ReadErr> I see his 'tism has gotten worse
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2017-09-07T12:12:54 < stvn> lets find it out
2017-09-07T12:15:09 < ReadErr> ur creeping me out stop
2017-09-07T12:17:03 < stvn> play eevblog on 0.5 speed
2017-09-07T12:17:10 < stvn> it's like listening to a really drunk person
2017-09-07T12:19:20 < ReadErr> r u fuckin drunk, m8?
2017-09-07T12:20:23 < stvn> nah
2017-09-07T12:22:30 < ReadErr> just lit on dank memes?
2017-09-07T12:22:44 < stvn> ReadErr, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbVaXHgdYLk
2017-09-07T12:30:02 < ReadErr> f u
2017-09-07T12:30:08 < ReadErr> i was waiting for a sledgehammer
2017-09-07T12:30:28 < stvn> lol
2017-09-07T12:30:37 < stvn> it's a good amplifier
2017-09-07T12:30:49 < stvn> dunno wtf he's doing making a video of soldering 1 diode lel
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2017-09-07T12:49:51 < stvn> lel
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2017-09-07T13:00:11 < stvn> meow
2017-09-07T13:08:11 < Thorn> database.use { insert("User", "id" to 42, "name" to "John", "email" to "user@domain.org"} }
2017-09-07T13:08:15 < Thorn> kotlin wins
2017-09-07T13:12:22 < stvn> suck it off Thorn
2017-09-07T13:12:28 < stvn> englishman, englishlad http://i.imgur.com/iinNOGe.jpg
2017-09-07T13:12:33 < stvn> poutine cat has a new friend
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2017-09-07T13:15:44 < kakimir> wolfcat
2017-09-07T13:16:47 < stvn> super dong cat
2017-09-07T13:28:38 < karl> Laurenceb_: why are you looking at that stupid iftools isolator? just buy the adum part and be done with it.
2017-09-07T13:28:55 < karl> or are you _really_ looking for something external?
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2017-09-07T14:07:48 < jpa-> any nice ideas how to fine tune timer speed on stm32? like +-100ppm in 0.1ppm steps, for a timer counting at 1 MHz with prescaler of 168
2017-09-07T14:09:44 < Steffanx> stvn: howzit mate?
2017-09-07T14:09:57 < stvn> ah yeah not bad
2017-09-07T14:10:04 < Steffanx> Waffle?
2017-09-07T14:10:06 < jpa-> IIRC gxti just ran whole processor from VCXO for fine tuning, but i don't have that option as the hardware was made years ago :P
2017-09-07T14:10:12 < stvn> yes please Steffanx
2017-09-07T14:10:54 < Steffanx> Nah it gives you diabetus
2017-09-07T14:11:55 < stvn> ok
2017-09-07T14:12:07 < stvn> diabeetus
2017-09-07T14:14:06 < Steffanx> Control the temperature of your xtal and shift the freq. Redefine the c in tcxo
2017-09-07T14:14:32 < Steffanx> What do you expect us to say when the hw already exists jpa- ?
2017-09-07T14:15:38 < jpa-> currently i'm planning to use one timer as a prescaler for another timer and then dma stuff into its ARR or something like that
2017-09-07T14:16:09 < jpa-> because PSC can not be updated more than once per update event
2017-09-07T14:16:16 < jpa-> so have to link timers etc. complexity
2017-09-07T14:20:28 < stvn> i think do it
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2017-09-07T14:22:29 < qyx> jpa-: I am running the mcu from a vctcxo
2017-09-07T14:22:35 < qyx> like gxti did
2017-09-07T14:22:58 < jpa-> yeah.. wish i did also :D
2017-09-07T14:23:16 < qyx> basically it is a GPSDO, running the timer at 80MHz
2017-09-07T14:23:26 < qyx> it is surprisingly precise
2017-09-07T14:23:53 < qyx> it goes up and down only 1 part in 80mil
2017-09-07T14:23:55 < Thorn> from a recent discussion here, the PLL in stm32 appears to be not that accurate, the speed floats by a few ppm iirc
2017-09-07T14:23:57 < jpa-> i wish there was a simple way to adjust the timer prescaler for just a single CNT tick, and then return it to previous value
2017-09-07T14:24:09 < qyx> Thorn: it doesn't seem it is the case
2017-09-07T14:24:24 < jpa-> Thorn: uh? PLL is phase-locked, so i can't see how the speed could float much - there can just be some phase jitter
2017-09-07T14:25:10 < jpa-> ah - but i'm silly, why bother using PSC at all, i can just divide the ARR value
2017-09-07T14:25:34 < jpa-> err.. CNT value
2017-09-07T14:25:38 < qyx> yes, that
2017-09-07T14:25:55 < Thorn> http://xob.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stm32/2017-08.log ^F 2017-08-28T02:10:10
2017-09-07T14:26:01 < qyx> I was about to to the same previously
2017-09-07T14:26:11 < BrainDamage> phase noise <-> frequency drift, one is the integral/derivative of the other
2017-09-07T14:26:12 < jpa-> so i'll have it count ticks at full cpu frequency, and then do some fancy divide by fractional value to get to microseconds
2017-09-07T14:26:48 < BrainDamage> but yes, the dominant factor will be the xtal it's locked to
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2017-09-07T14:30:00 < qyx> also, related, my F3 running at 80MHz vrom the vctcxo with ADC running at 2msps (with opamp driver) + GPS draws about 100mA
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2017-09-07T14:30:21 < Laurenceb_> <karl> Laurenceb_: why are you looking at that stupid iftools isolator? just buy the adum part and be done with it.
2017-09-07T14:30:25 < qyx> looks like I am doing something wrong
2017-09-07T14:30:30 < Laurenceb_> because I need documentation
2017-09-07T14:30:40 < Laurenceb_> its much cheaper than doing my own testing
2017-09-07T14:30:50 < Laurenceb_> as I only need a handful of base units
2017-09-07T14:31:05 < karl> Laurenceb_: aight, fair enough
2017-09-07T14:31:30 < qyx> does anybody asks for the actual testing?
2017-09-07T14:31:39 < qyx> just mark it with a CE
2017-09-07T14:31:52 < Laurenceb_> yes
2017-09-07T14:32:18 < Laurenceb_> if its a medical device going into an NHS hospital its going to be looked over very carefully
2017-09-07T14:32:42 < Laurenceb_> all your documentation needs to be in order
2017-09-07T14:32:47 < qyx> will the patient die if it fails?
2017-09-07T14:32:58 < Laurenceb_> maybe
2017-09-07T14:33:04 < qyx> I am not going to the UK
2017-09-07T14:33:11 < Laurenceb_> lel
2017-09-07T14:34:27 < Laurenceb_> die as in "electrocuted by mains voltage"
2017-09-07T14:38:47 < Laurenceb_> whats this with GPSDO?
2017-09-07T14:38:53  * Laurenceb_ is too lazy to scrollback
2017-09-07T14:39:06 < Laurenceb_> I worked on similar stuff for rockoon tracking
2017-09-07T14:39:44 < Laurenceb_> http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=107&products_id=234
2017-09-07T14:41:44 < Laurenceb_> qyx: which gps?
2017-09-07T14:41:49 < Laurenceb_> sounds power hungry
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2017-09-07T15:35:13 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI-p2rUUMAAwQsn.jpg
2017-09-07T15:35:20 < Laurenceb_> Patriarchy strikes again
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2017-09-07T15:49:56 < qyx> Laurenceb_: quectel L70
2017-09-07T15:50:07 < qyx> it should have some power saving 3mA mode
2017-09-07T15:50:14 < qyx> but I did not measure it alone
2017-09-07T15:53:27 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: I need to learn more about clocking in general. I understand concepts like PLLs and so on but it's my understanding that you can't "clean up" a jittery signal easily
2017-09-07T16:00:16 < Laurenceb_> you can if you have a good oscillator
2017-09-07T16:00:28 < Laurenceb_> https://pastebin.com/YX9pf1Se
2017-09-07T16:00:33 < Laurenceb_> lunix....
2017-09-07T16:00:36 < karl> yes yes, but for the rest of us that didn't design in a temp controlled osc
2017-09-07T16:01:13 < karl> Laurenceb_: that looks like shitty python module author
2017-09-07T16:01:36 < karl> just drop the == '' bit
2017-09-07T16:01:36 < Laurenceb_> yeah, trying to install gerbmnerg
2017-09-07T16:01:56 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: yes, it's all about the quality of hte osc. but you hear all kinds of people saying how they can take some shitty jittery xtal and get amazeballs clocks out of it
2017-09-07T16:01:58 < karl> or just run it without install, normally it's a more tested path for the original author
2017-09-07T16:02:07 < Laurenceb_> karlp: Leo uses a vctcxo on its own board, vibration isolated and encased in casting wax
2017-09-07T16:02:16 < Laurenceb_> with FFC to the main pcb
2017-09-07T16:02:44 < Laurenceb_> and its a v high end vctcxo to start with
2017-09-07T16:03:40 < Laurenceb_> I think there is a lump of copper on the back of the vctcxo board to increase thermal mass too
2017-09-07T16:04:29 < Laurenceb_> crazy value for money tbh https://store.uputronics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=92
2017-09-07T16:05:13 < Laurenceb_> Q/ The performance figures look too good to be true at the price
2017-09-07T16:05:15 < Laurenceb_> ^lel
2017-09-07T16:05:33 < aandrew> sure you can do that but I'm more interested in what non-autists do
2017-09-07T16:05:53 < Laurenceb_> you havent seen the firmware
2017-09-07T16:06:06 < Laurenceb_> it was written in thumb on sheets of A4
2017-09-07T16:07:42 < gxti> jpa-: you'd basically need an accumulator to track the error between what the hardware timer is doing vs when it should be firing and tweak the reload values
2017-09-07T16:08:23 < Laurenceb_> ^that was how I did my first attempt at hardware OFDM
2017-09-07T16:08:42 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: *nods* I've seen that before too, forget how well it works
2017-09-07T16:08:55 < Laurenceb_> before I discovered master/slave timer mode
2017-09-07T16:09:08 < gxti> my ntp thing ultimately ended up using a purely software based "clock", instead tweaking a vcxo. works just as well for ntp.
2017-09-07T16:09:52 < Laurenceb_> gxti: yeah that thing is a spin off from the board we worked on for positioning using integrated carrier phase
2017-09-07T16:10:14 < Laurenceb_> that got down to a few cm rms error using airspy and 434mhz
2017-09-07T16:10:50 < Laurenceb_> its silly overkill for NTP, but does have a clk output available too
2017-09-07T16:12:17 < Laurenceb_> it a way its a shame gps is so low power now, as balloon tracking using CW would be fun
2017-09-07T16:15:03 < Laurenceb_> also part of the reason I lul each time someone promotes some bluetooth based indoor positioning shit
2017-09-07T16:15:22 < Laurenceb_> this is not so easy to pull off, and indoor is even harder, add bluetooth...
2017-09-07T16:15:54 < qyx> A/ No the hardware and code running it are completely propriety and don’t use any source code from Linux or NTP. This is done to ensure maximum performance with no overheads and security issues.
2017-09-07T16:15:58 < qyx> pls
2017-09-07T16:16:07 < gxti> m a x i m u m  p e r f o r m a n c e
2017-09-07T16:16:20 < qyx> no security issues in custom code
2017-09-07T16:18:02 < gxti> it'd be pretty hard to hack a stm32 even if there were problems with the code. is it possible to disable execution from RAM entirely?
2017-09-07T16:18:54 < jpa-> with MPU it is
2017-09-07T16:19:03 < jpa-> but return oriented programming is a thing
2017-09-07T16:19:18 < Laurenceb_> the source "code" is in a filepad
2017-09-07T16:20:03 < Laurenceb_> then typed into notepad.exe
2017-09-07T16:21:21 < gxti> notepad is very secure
2017-09-07T16:22:00 < Laurenceb_> anyways
2017-09-07T16:22:05 < Laurenceb_> distutils.sysconfig.get_config_var is causing my issue
2017-09-07T16:22:11 < Laurenceb_> it returns "None"
2017-09-07T16:22:40 < Laurenceb_> python is cancerous
2017-09-07T16:22:47 < gxti> o
2017-09-07T16:23:05 < gxti> Laurenceb_: link to the source?
2017-09-07T16:23:23 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/kkunzelm/gerbmerge/blob/master/setup.py
2017-09-07T16:23:35 < Laurenceb_> line 40
2017-09-07T16:26:19 < Laurenceb_> tiem to go back to hand written thumb2
2017-09-07T16:26:26 < gxti> try changing LIBPYTHON to LIBDEST
2017-09-07T16:27:08 < Laurenceb_> k
2017-09-07T16:27:23 < gxti> they probably haven't tested this since python 2.4 so don't be surprised if everything else is fucked too
2017-09-07T16:28:55 < Laurenceb_> VERSION_MAJOR, VERSION_MINOR is broken
2017-09-07T16:28:59 < Laurenceb_> wow this is screwed
2017-09-07T16:29:06 < Laurenceb_> maybe I shou7ld try the main branch
2017-09-07T16:30:18 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/unwireddevices/gerbmerge which is prob that
2017-09-07T16:30:24 < Laurenceb_> so many brnaches, its chaos
2017-09-07T16:31:36 < Laurenceb_> yeah main branch is fixed to work in newer python
2017-09-07T16:31:48 < Laurenceb_> s/newer/whatever the fuck happened to python
2017-09-07T16:42:43 < Laurenceb_> python: can't open file '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gerbmerge/gerbmerge.py': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
2017-09-07T16:42:47 < Laurenceb_> so much for that
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2017-09-07T18:00:15 < Laurenceb_> https://www.nottingham.ac.uk/Estates/Images/Trim-Security-Cropped-750x283.jpg
2017-09-07T18:00:19 < Laurenceb_> I'm in jail dude
2017-09-07T18:07:33 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/HH6fwde
2017-09-07T18:15:39 < karl> Laurenceb_: hrm, I have a feeling I had some gerb merge tweaks at home when I was using it(or something like it) recently.
2017-09-07T18:15:49 < karl> but it's not on github. I'll have a look in a few hours for you
2017-09-07T18:16:03 < Laurenceb_> its ok I've merged all my files now
2017-09-07T18:16:05 < Laurenceb_> eventually
2017-09-07T18:16:12 < Laurenceb_> had to patch the install scripts
2017-09-07T18:17:09 < karl> yeah, installers are normally the least tested paths for people
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2017-09-07T23:03:53 < qyx> pid seems to be working fine, the gpsdo locks within 15 seconds
2017-09-07T23:05:11 < qyx> naive jitter observation shows ~17ppb
2017-09-07T23:05:29 < qyx> basically it jumps only 1 timer tick at 60MHz
2017-09-07T23:12:03 < aandrew> qyx: what're you working on?
2017-09-07T23:12:22 < qyx> gpsdo for synchronized digitizer
2017-09-07T23:13:44 < Laurenceb__> whats being digitized?
2017-09-07T23:14:17 < qyx> bsacically anything 100mVpp 50ohm
2017-09-07T23:14:26 < qyx> but I am into a lightning detection
2017-09-07T23:14:40 < Laurenceb__> oh nice
2017-09-07T23:14:50 < Laurenceb__> sounds like my problem
2017-09-07T23:14:59 < qyx> have you been struck
2017-09-07T23:15:18 < Laurenceb__> but I went for GPSDO -> Airspy ->PC running ntpd
2017-09-07T23:15:19 < Laurenceb__> lul
2017-09-07T23:16:21 < qyx> looks doable on a single stm
2017-09-07T23:16:22 < aandrew> qyx: so what're you doing at a high level, taking the 1pps and counting 'x' ticks of your desired clock, adjusting via PID to get the correct 'x' ?
2017-09-07T23:16:38 < qyx> aandrew: yes
2017-09-07T23:16:54 < aandrew> interesting
2017-09-07T23:16:57 < qyx> and steering the vctcxo using the dac
2017-09-07T23:17:46 < qyx> probably it can be done even more precise, but 12bit dac is not enough it seems
2017-09-07T23:17:46 < qyx> and
2017-09-07T23:17:56 < qyx> a better algo should be used
2017-09-07T23:18:29 < aandrew> yeah I just did a quick read and it sounds like another method is to divide down your clock until it's 1pps and phase-aligning that to the gps 1pps
2017-09-07T23:19:33 < qyx> this phase alignment could be done using that high resolution timer thingie on F3
2017-09-07T23:19:38 < qyx> or was it F4
2017-09-07T23:19:48 < qyx> idk, not on the one I am using for 4 ADCs
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2017-09-07T23:20:41 < aandrew> don't take any suggestions from me, I've only learned of this in the last 8 minutes
2017-09-07T23:21:16 < qyx> no way, I am happy that it works as it is
2017-09-07T23:21:47 < Laurenceb__> qyx: high resolution timer is bullshit
2017-09-07T23:21:57 < Laurenceb__> it isnt real and can't do high res capture
2017-09-07T23:22:17 < qyx> yes, but should be able to detect phase
2017-09-07T23:22:52 < qyx> as far as I understood from the RM
2017-09-07T23:23:00 < qyx> but I may be wrong
2017-09-07T23:23:25 < karl> Laurenceb_: found my local gerbmerge repo, I was just r5unning it from the git clone dir, not installed.  my only change to it was a hack to add "V-CUT" text on some of borders
2017-09-07T23:26:08 < Laurenceb__> oh using external hardware
2017-09-07T23:26:15 < Laurenceb__> yeah that would work
2017-09-07T23:26:25 < Laurenceb__> karl: ok
2017-09-07T23:26:52 < Laurenceb__> qyx: Leo solved this issue using a silabs reclock ic
2017-09-07T23:26:58 < Laurenceb__> does everything for you
2017-09-07T23:27:07 < karl> but yeah, the setup.py in that package is garbage, doesn't even run the help properly.
2017-09-07T23:27:26 < Laurenceb__> heh
2017-09-07T23:27:41 < Laurenceb__> qyx: Leo found that ublox 1pps isnt very stable
2017-09-07T23:28:11 < Laurenceb__> it was a matter of making the vctcxo as stable as possible then optimising the filtering settings
2017-09-07T23:28:50 < qyx> but I am not going to mount anything in a wax
2017-09-07T23:29:14 < qyx> 1ppm is enough
2017-09-07T23:29:55 < Laurenceb__> we were optimising for drift over 100s
2017-09-07T23:30:27 < Laurenceb__> managed about 10ps or so
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2017-09-08T00:32:48 < aandrew> who's leo
2017-09-08T00:33:13 < karlp> bodnar the baloon dude
2017-09-08T00:33:36 < aandrew> ?
2017-09-08T00:34:39 < karlp> aren'ðt you a baloonist?
2017-09-08T00:34:55 < ohsix> ardn't
2017-09-08T00:36:52 < zyp> cue joke about being full of hot air
2017-09-08T00:36:55 < aandrew> I am not no
2017-09-08T00:38:03 < karlp> oh, sorry, mixed you up with aadamson
2017-09-08T00:39:19 < zyp> karlp got his p back
2017-09-08T00:39:29 < zyp> I've been wondering where it went
2017-09-08T00:40:27  * karlp hadn't noticed
2017-09-08T00:41:44 < ohsix> sync
2017-09-08T00:41:55 < karlp> fuck this, I think this das keyboard has developed a defective t key.
2017-09-08T00:42:08 < sync> just replace it
2017-09-08T00:42:18 < zyp> how can you tell when it's not labelled? :)
2017-09-08T00:42:19 < ohsix> that's how you know it was worth the money
2017-09-08T00:42:29 < karlp> zyp: no, didn'tt get that one.
2017-09-08T00:42:35 < ohsix> the fake ass jerks making millions of keyboards that work reliably for years
2017-09-08T00:42:41 < zyp> oh, they have labelled ones too?
2017-09-08T00:42:42 < karlp> got my own keycaps made from wasd so I could have icelandic letters.
2017-09-08T00:42:46 < zyp> ah
2017-09-08T00:42:49 < karlp> sure, tthe "pro" instead of the "ultimate"
2017-09-08T00:42:54 < zyp> makes sense
2017-09-08T00:43:04 < karlp> or the "normal" instead of the "dumb gamer loser" as I like to think of it
2017-09-08T00:43:40 < karlp> likes: wheel for volume, usb3 hub (after getting new fw for my mobo) hardware play/pase/next buttons.
2017-09-08T00:43:54 < karlp> not likes: cost, noise, and.... well, thsi damn t tthing.
2017-09-08T00:48:12 < Laurenceb__> Leo is LeoBodnar.com
2017-09-08T00:49:08 < Laurenceb__> holy shit whyyyy http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=101&products_id=254
2017-09-08T00:51:41 < Laurenceb__> wonder if its still using mini plasma display
2017-09-08T00:51:57 < Laurenceb__> I bet amoled is good enough now
2017-09-08T01:02:04 < ohsix> why nto buy a real wheel
2017-09-08T01:05:56 < Laurenceb__> ikr
2017-09-08T01:06:27 < Laurenceb__> https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2-4a-ultra-thin-reversible-micro_60560750740.html
2017-09-08T01:06:29 < Laurenceb__> looks ok?
2017-09-08T01:09:04 < aandrew> lol reversible usb
2017-09-08T01:11:05 < Laurenceb__> yeah apart from that
2017-09-08T01:11:23 < Laurenceb__> looks like crapple clone, so plob not very durable
2017-09-08T01:11:53 < Laurenceb__> but slim and sexeh
2017-09-08T01:13:04 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ5gkJDmZv4 music times
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2017-09-08T01:29:13 < Laurenceb__> fuck sake
2017-09-08T01:29:22 < Laurenceb__> I just got trolld into watching furry shit
2017-09-08T01:29:39 < kakimir> and
2017-09-08T01:30:10 < kakimir> you low key liked it
2017-09-08T01:33:22 < Laurenceb__> lel this guy https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV?lang=en
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2017-09-08T02:23:01 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA
2017-09-08T02:23:07 < Laurenceb__> holy shit 27 minutes
2017-09-08T02:23:10 < Laurenceb__> tom66 at work
2017-09-08T02:23:28 < Laurenceb__> wait no 21:30
2017-09-08T02:24:06 < Laurenceb__> he is really pushing his luck
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2017-09-08T02:27:20 < Laurenceb__> lul 24:00, waifu spotted
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2017-09-08T02:56:21 < sync> Laurenceb__: it is not sooo bad tho
2017-09-08T02:57:56 < Laurenceb__> yeah it seemed to work
2017-09-08T02:59:05 < sync> full autism tho
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2017-09-08T04:16:04 < aandrew> there, I think I got this 303 template working
2017-09-08T04:16:11 < aandrew> let's see if I can get blinkenled
2017-09-08T04:26:50 < emeb_mac> 303s are awesome
2017-09-08T04:28:43 < aandrew> no not that 303
2017-09-08T04:28:45 < aandrew> STM32F303
2017-09-08T04:33:29 < aandrew> hm, segger's stlink updater doesn't work with stlink on nucleo64?
2017-09-08T04:36:39 < ds2> Mmmmm stainless steel
2017-09-08T04:45:45 < aandrew> that works now. had to install the stlink driver first
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2017-09-08T05:04:50 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: i want that drill press he's using
2017-09-08T05:08:11 < dongs> aandrew: heh, do they update that or is that stil lsame .bin from 20 years ago
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2017-09-08T05:13:20 < dongs> uhhh yeah
2017-09-08T05:15:06 < dongs> crt, check out one of their sponsors
2017-09-08T05:15:12 < dongs> national alliance on mental illness
2017-09-08T05:15:39 < dongs> https://youtu.be/rTmXfYLgykI?t=250 top right corner
2017-09-08T05:16:42 < dongs> Absolutely ruined my browsing experience on my smartphone and tabket. Chrome is literally unusable because every second link is a goddamb amp link.
2017-09-08T05:17:22 < englishman> amp is pretty fucking dumb
2017-09-08T05:17:36 < dongs> you know what i found that isnt dumb
2017-09-08T05:17:44 < dongs> telegram instant view for links inside it
2017-09-08T05:17:52 < dongs> its great beacuse it gives you a fucking choice
2017-09-08T05:17:59 < dongs> you can see t he cleaned up article or you can click t he original fucking link
2017-09-08T05:18:08 < englishman> what do you use telegram for
2017-09-08T05:18:10 < dongs> i would hate amp a lot less if i could just permanently fucking turn it off
2017-09-08T05:18:18 < dongs> englishman: everything, work
2017-09-08T05:18:24 < englishman> i downloaded it and it asked for a phone number like signal
2017-09-08T05:18:37 < englishman> just for poor countries?
2017-09-08T05:18:40 < englishman> or real ones too
2017-09-08T05:18:43 < dongs> it just neesd it for keeping your shats
2017-09-08T05:18:47 < dongs> the phone number is not used for anything else
2017-09-08T05:18:55 < dongs> you can add shit by ID/whatever once youre on it.
2017-09-08T05:18:58 < dongs> real oens too
2017-09-08T05:19:16 < englishman> afaik it was just an ISISchat
2017-09-08T05:19:32 < englishman> and from what you said a paki ##stm32
2017-09-08T05:19:57 < dongs> we can alwatys start a non-paki stm32
2017-09-08T05:20:31 < dongs> anyway, left the office 2 weeks ago
2017-09-08T05:20:37 < dongs> told wifecop: dont touch anything on my desk
2017-09-08T05:20:45 < dongs> returned: desk cleaned, everything is gone
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2017-09-08T05:26:22 < dongs> https://anchorage.craigslist.org/hvo/d/archimeadean-screw-tractor/6289122515.html
2017-09-08T05:33:06 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/SqH1pzm.png
2017-09-08T05:33:16 < englishman> <-- official importer of chink crap
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2017-09-08T05:44:30 < aandrew> dongs: same bin I bet
2017-09-08T05:44:53 < aandrew> yay, I have a code fragment that will jump to the ROM bootloader and use USB DFU without screwing with BOOT0 on the F303
2017-09-08T05:45:10 < aandrew> need an external 1.5k pullup resistor and an acceptbale clock on HSE or you won't get USB function though
2017-09-08T05:45:33 < dongs> err?
2017-09-08T05:45:38 < dongs> 303 has built in pull up
2017-09-08T05:45:48 < dongs> you shouldnt need 1.5k
2017-09-08T05:45:53 < dongs> usb core will enable it
2017-09-08T05:46:15 < aandrew> AN2606 says you need it
2017-09-08T05:47:06 < englishman> on f3 yeah
2017-09-08T05:47:09 < englishman> for buttloader
2017-09-08T05:47:19 < englishman> user usb, no
2017-09-08T05:47:23 < englishman> super gay rite
2017-09-08T05:47:25 < dongs> oh, really? wat
2017-09-08T05:47:27 < aandrew> well let me remove it and retest
2017-09-08T05:47:27 < englishman> yeah
2017-09-08T05:47:28 < dongs> that sounds retarded
2017-09-08T05:47:30 < englishman> it is
2017-09-08T05:47:31 < aandrew> but it wasn't working
2017-09-08T05:47:38 < englishman> dongs i think you went thru this too
2017-09-08T05:47:47 < englishman> because the 1.5k pullup makes it enumerate
2017-09-08T05:47:59 < dongs> ohhh, shit now i remembver
2017-09-08T05:48:00 < dongs> right that crap
2017-09-08T05:48:01 < englishman> yeah
2017-09-08T05:48:08 < dongs>  /shitheap f303
2017-09-08T05:48:16 < englishman> f0 is best stm32
2017-09-08T05:48:19 < dongs> my new fav is f042 or wahtever
2017-09-08T05:48:22 < dongs> with crystal-less usb
2017-09-08T05:48:22 < englishman> yeah
2017-09-08T05:48:26 < englishman> fucking awesome
2017-09-08T05:48:33 < dongs> no 22R, no 1.5K no faggotry
2017-09-08T05:48:40 < dongs> boot 0 shorted -> DFU loads up
2017-09-08T05:48:44 < englishman> and easy to solder tqfp32 package highly cloneable
2017-09-08T05:48:47 < aandrew> the F303 doesn't appear to need 22R either
2017-09-08T05:48:52 < dongs> and im sure jumping to buutloader works just as well
2017-09-08T05:49:15 < dongs> aandrew: yeah, a bunch of them dont but ST interns keep sticking them on boards, then they end up having to replace them wtih 0R
2017-09-08T05:50:28 < englishman> sounds like stolen labour from microchip
2017-09-08T05:50:35 < aandrew> jumping to the bootloader was never the issue; the issue was getting USB to come up
2017-09-08T05:50:46 < aandrew> serial upgrade doesn't have any extenral requirements
2017-09-08T05:50:57 < aandrew> https://pastebin.com/98MwmM8G
2017-09-08T05:51:07 < aandrew> tha'ts how you jump to bootrom sanely
2017-09-08T05:58:35 < jadew> seeedstudio has now fussion-cnc
2017-09-08T05:59:00 < jadew> and gives quotes like "Approximate Cost: >= USD $10000.00"
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2017-09-08T06:00:19 < jadew> seems like the cheapest I can get for a 100x50x12 mm thingie, made out of plastic, is 300
2017-09-08T06:00:24 < jadew> and I get 3
2017-09-08T06:07:22 < dongs> aandrew: ... wat
2017-09-08T06:07:31 < dongs> lol @ gccisms
2017-09-08T06:07:42 < dongs> ive always jumped to bootrom with zero issues
2017-09-08T06:07:49 < dongs> by using direct address published in RM/datasheet
2017-09-08T06:07:53 < dongs> and without any asm faggotry
2017-09-08T06:07:56 < dongs> why you gotta do this?
2017-09-08T06:08:00 < dongs> whos gonna maintain your code when yo udie
2017-09-08T06:08:30 < dongs> so skype refuses to log me in now
2017-09-08T06:08:33 < dongs> because my version is "too old"
2017-09-08T06:09:03 < englishman> how will they ever compete with telegram
2017-09-08T06:10:55 < dongs> have you SEEN thier mobile app??
2017-09-08T06:10:58 < dongs> the "new" one
2017-09-08T06:11:05 < tpw_rules> oh my god yes
2017-09-08T06:11:07 < dongs> they managed to bump thier rating from 4.x to like 3.x in just a month
2017-09-08T06:11:12 < dongs> its beyond fucking awful
2017-09-08T06:11:20 < dongs> fucking squiggly lines and you can "react" to each chat line
2017-09-08T06:11:25 < dongs> what the fucking fuck
2017-09-08T06:11:29 < tpw_rules> it's so bad
2017-09-08T06:11:36 < tpw_rules> their new motif is squiggles
2017-09-08T06:11:48 < dongs> thier new motif is losing users
2017-09-08T06:11:51 < dongs> which they're doing quite successfully
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2017-09-08T06:13:22 < aandrew> dongs: what's not maintainable?
2017-09-08T06:14:01 < dongs> I wanted to make this comment since the new upgrade or rather down grade. When I make a call, loud speaker gets turned on automatically. The interface looks as if the Skype people want the users to uninstall it, because that's how you get to uninstall. A lot of apps are available in the market which would provide better than this.
2017-09-08T06:14:06 < dongs> aandrew: everything in that mess you pasted
2017-09-08T06:15:42 < aandrew> lol ok
2017-09-08T06:15:58 < jadew> can you have custom copper & vias in altium footprints?
2017-09-08T06:16:07 < englishman> "custom copper"
2017-09-08T06:16:14 < dongs> the hell is custom copper
2017-09-08T06:16:21 < englishman> like audiophile-grade copper?
2017-09-08T06:16:35 < jadew> arbitrary polygons
2017-09-08T06:16:48 < englishman> of course?
2017-09-08T06:17:08 < jadew> then I need to get a license
2017-09-08T06:17:22 < englishman> what shitty eda tool doesnt let you draw polygons in footprints
2017-09-08T06:17:27 < jadew> kicad
2017-09-08T06:17:32 < englishman> wat
2017-09-08T06:17:35 < englishman> for real
2017-09-08T06:17:41 < jadew> yep
2017-09-08T06:17:49 < jadew> you can import them
2017-09-08T06:17:56 < jadew> but they don't work as you'd expect
2017-09-08T06:18:05 < englishman> i thought importing textfiles was a geda thing
2017-09-08T06:18:11 < jadew> like you can't have two pads on the same copper
2017-09-08T06:18:31 < englishman> i guess they never heard of a jumper then?
2017-09-08T06:18:32 < jadew> and you can't have vias
2017-09-08T06:18:41 < dongs> oic
2017-09-08T06:18:42 < englishman> get the fuck out tho
2017-09-08T06:18:46 < englishman> no vias
2017-09-08T06:18:57 < jadew> in the footprint that is
2017-09-08T06:19:17 < dongs> jadew: uh
2017-09-08T06:19:19 < dongs> then how do you do QFN
2017-09-08T06:19:21 < dongs> with bottom epad
2017-09-08T06:19:24 < dongs> that needs to have vias in it??
2017-09-08T06:19:27 < jadew> dongs, after you place the pad
2017-09-08T06:19:30 < dongs> lol fucking opensores
2017-09-08T06:19:33 < dongs> what a fucking joke
2017-09-08T06:19:33 < jadew> the part
2017-09-08T06:19:35 < englishman> lol
2017-09-08T06:19:42 < jadew> yeah... it's silly
2017-09-08T06:19:46 < englishman> so you can only draw half the component
2017-09-08T06:19:57 < dongs> truly kikecad
2017-09-08T06:20:16 < dongs> anyway
2017-09-08T06:20:20 < englishman> i know they were retarded as shit about paste layer
2017-09-08T06:20:23 < dongs> aandrew: looks like the few times i jmped to ROM bl
2017-09-08T06:20:24 < englishman> but thats just sad
2017-09-08T06:20:26 < jadew> maybe I'm wrong but I can't find a way to do it, let me see if I can find any footprint with vias
2017-09-08T06:20:30 < c4017__> jadew, can't you just put a through hole pad instead of via?
2017-09-08T06:20:32 < dongs> i would set bit in ram, reset, then handle it in reset vector
2017-09-08T06:20:42 < dongs> to make sure none of the shit like interrupts/etc are enabled and slate is clean
2017-09-08T06:20:44 < englishman> no thats enough you can take it to #kicad
2017-09-08T06:21:03 < jadew> c4017__, I could, but that doesn't really solve my problem
2017-09-08T06:21:14 < dongs> opensource solution: try something unrelated in hopes it works
2017-09-08T06:21:28 < jadew> the biggest issue is that I want to have a copper zone between two pads
2017-09-08T06:21:36 < englishman> at least here you get cat
2017-09-08T06:23:08 < c4017__> jadew, so draw a copper polygon? whats the problem
2017-09-08T06:23:36 < jadew> I don't think it can be done in the footprint, can it?
2017-09-08T06:24:46 < c4017__> o lol I guess not. Havent used it in too lomg
2017-09-08T06:24:48 < jadew> so I guess the via thing is doable via an unnumbered through hole pad, should have htought of that
2017-09-08T06:25:48 < dongs> judew: good luck making a footprint like this in kikecad http://i.imgur.com/3UqcUgT.png
2017-09-08T06:26:20 < tpw_rules> what program is that and how is it so ugly
2017-09-08T06:26:33 < tpw_rules> also i forgot to complement you on your anti-semitism, sorry
2017-09-08T06:26:53 < dongs> let's see how ugly kikecad symbol editor is
2017-09-08T06:26:56 < dongs> oh, right, there isn't one
2017-09-08T06:27:01 < dongs> you draw some crap on pcb then export as .txt
2017-09-08T06:27:05 < dongs> then import it into something else
2017-09-08T06:27:08 < dongs> after manually editing some stuff
2017-09-08T06:27:11 < dongs> or was that gEDA?
2017-09-08T06:27:19 < tpw_rules> that's def geda lol
2017-09-08T06:28:31 < englishman> notice how none of these big projects like hackrf have ever done a 2nd project in kicad
2017-09-08T06:29:07 < dongs> didnt hackrf just outsource everything to china (including next board design/sch/layout)
2017-09-08T06:29:10 < tpw_rules> have they ever done a second project
2017-09-08T06:29:11 < jadew> kicad could be great, but I guess it doesn't have enough programming power behind
2017-09-08T06:29:23 < tpw_rules> kicad is good
2017-09-08T06:29:26 < tpw_rules> hot take
2017-09-08T06:30:11 < jadew> tpw_rules, I think hackrf died when the hackrf blue clones appeared
2017-09-08T06:30:44 < englishman> hackrf blue was a scam tho
2017-09-08T06:30:50 < jadew> was it?
2017-09-08T06:30:52 < englishman> pp shut down his account and he went on a rant
2017-09-08T06:31:13 < jadew> didn't know that, I thought it delivered
2017-09-08T06:31:26 < englishman> About a week ago, PayPal decided to freeze our account associated with shop.hackrfblue.com with a balance of US$20,000.
2017-09-08T06:31:26 < englishman>  
2017-09-08T06:31:26 < englishman> Fortunately I hadn't shipped out the shop.hackrfblue.com orders before they froze the account. I'm not going to leave you hanging, and this email will explain what happened, how to get your money back in full, and how to get your HackRF.
2017-09-08T06:31:26 < englishman>  
2017-09-08T06:31:26 < englishman> The story so far
2017-09-08T06:31:26 < englishman>  
2017-09-08T06:31:26 < englishman> I didn't want to say anything to you earlier until I fully understood the situation blah blah blah whine whine
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2017-09-08T06:32:09 < dongs> > paypal freezing accounts
2017-09-08T06:32:12 < jadew> I heared that story before
2017-09-08T06:32:29 < jadew> from some guy with some batteries
2017-09-08T06:33:34 < dongs> i have made millions on gaypal and never had anything frozen
2017-09-08T06:33:40 < dongs> i guess if ytoure running an OBVIOUS FUCKING SCAM
2017-09-08T06:33:42 < dongs> and NOT SHIPPING SHIT OUT
2017-09-08T06:33:47 < dongs> then they have a reason to block y ou???
2017-09-08T06:33:49 < dongs> who would haev thought
2017-09-08T06:34:01 < dongs> hackrf = illegal hacker product
2017-09-08T06:34:07 < dongs> it even has the word HACK in its name
2017-09-08T06:34:13 < dongs> only used by filthy lunix dweebs
2017-09-08T06:34:31 < dongs> <paypal> ok lets order one of these thigngs and see if they're legit
2017-09-08T06:34:39 < dongs> <paypal> wtf is shit shit, bare PCB arrives with no instructions
2017-09-08T06:34:46 < dongs> <paypal> lunix drivers? what? how do we plug and play
2017-09-08T06:34:57 < dongs> <paypal> fuck these cunts, we're closing their account
2017-09-08T06:35:20 < jadew> true story
2017-09-08T06:36:50 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePKAPj_ECK0 epic
2017-09-08T06:40:58 < dongs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1467313
2017-09-08T06:42:13 < dongs> oh wow, kikecad is C++?
2017-09-08T06:42:15 < dongs> +COLOR4D KIGFX::PREVIEW::PreviewOverlayDefaultColor()
2017-09-08T06:42:17 < tpw_rules> yeah
2017-09-08T06:42:18 < dongs> grosssssssss
2017-09-08T06:42:32 < tpw_rules> also that's the idiots at the part house who just click "dimension" and print whatever bullshit pops up
2017-09-08T06:42:43 < tpw_rules> i had the most whacked dimensions on a part i was doing yesterday
2017-09-08T06:42:53 < tpw_rules> literally none of them were useful
2017-09-08T06:43:20 < jadew> I'm calculating the distance between two pads as we speak
2017-09-08T06:43:51 < englishman> lol tool to measure
2017-09-08T06:44:00 < englishman> how about a logical coordinate system to start
2017-09-08T06:44:11 < englishman> oh wait this is kicad
2017-09-08T06:44:26 < dongs> judew, why the fuck are you still using kikecad
2017-09-08T06:44:51 < tpw_rules> your anti-semitism: still good
2017-09-08T06:45:07 < jadew> dongs, cuz I don't want to spend several k on Altium
2017-09-08T06:45:41 < jadew> I'd actually contribute if I had the time
2017-09-08T06:55:35 < dongs> -    EVT_UPDATE_UI_RANGE( ID_PCB_HIGHLIGHT_BUTT, ID_PCB_PLACE_GRID_COORD_BUTT,
2017-09-08T06:55:37 < dongs> +    EVT_UPDATE_UI_RANGE( ID_PCB_HIGHLIGHT_BUTT, ID_PCB_MEASUREMENT_TOOL, PCB_EDIT_FRAME::OnUpdateVerticalToolbar )
2017-09-08T06:55:40 < dongs> haha, coord_butt
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2017-09-08T07:29:40 < englishman> wow 740 chatters in telegram stm32 group
2017-09-08T07:31:36 < dongs> wat
2017-09-08T07:31:46 < dongs> whcih one?
2017-09-08T07:31:51 < dongs> there was a read-only CHANNEL
2017-09-08T07:31:51 < englishman> arabic
2017-09-08T07:31:52 < dongs> that was boring
2017-09-08T07:31:59 < dongs> where's the 740 chat group
2017-09-08T07:32:06 < englishman> dono cant join it
2017-09-08T07:32:07 < dongs> my arabic stm32 thing is like 380 people
2017-09-08T07:32:09 < dongs> oh
2017-09-08T07:32:13 < dongs> why not
2017-09-08T07:32:14 < englishman> exclusive to isis members
2017-09-08T07:32:17 < dongs> lo
2017-09-08T07:33:00 < englishman> looks like those cables can get made at $12 a pop
2017-09-08T07:33:01 < englishman> bargain
2017-09-08T07:34:32 < aandrew> well.. that didn't work, trying something else (forcing AICR reset and then catching a magic byte in the reset vector and jumping to bootrom
2017-09-08T07:35:34 < dongs> ? that wroks for me
2017-09-08T07:35:47 < dongs> thats how i jump to bl
2017-09-08T07:35:51 < dongs> in the 2-3 projecst that I found
2017-09-08T07:35:57 < aandrew> dongs: oh it jumps in my test code too
2017-09-08T07:36:01 < dongs> then?
2017-09-08T07:36:21 < aandrew> my suspicion is that the client is using the peripherals that the rombl wants to use and it's finding them in a weird state
2017-09-08T07:36:29 < dongs> right
2017-09-08T07:36:30 < aandrew> so that's why I'm trying a reset
2017-09-08T07:36:34 < dongs> which is why you need to reset
2017-09-08T07:36:46 < dongs> 12:20 < dongs> i would set bit in ram, reset, then handle it in reset vector
2017-09-08T07:36:46 < dongs> 12:20 < dongs> to make sure none of the shit like interrupts/etc are enabled and slate is clean
2017-09-08T07:36:47 < aandrew> rather than trying to unwind shit, just let the chip reset and catch it
2017-09-08T07:36:52 < aandrew> ha
2017-09-08T07:36:55 < aandrew> I missed that
2017-09-08T07:37:43 < aandrew> so
2017-09-08T07:37:47 < aandrew> I"m married 10y today
2017-09-08T07:37:55 < aandrew> trying to write something nice in a card
2017-09-08T07:38:02 < aandrew> just not feeling it
2017-09-08T07:38:19 < dongs> dongs ctrl+a ctrl+c ctrl+v * 100
2017-09-08T07:38:40 < aandrew> she isn't a regular on ##stm32, I don't think she'd appreciate that
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2017-09-08T09:09:31 < dongs> what the nigger is tehre such thing as polygon cutout priority in altidumb
2017-09-08T09:10:00 < dongs> i cant cut something out of a fucking polygon for soem reason but placing a cutout kills all the polygongs under it, too
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2017-09-08T09:28:00 < dongs> k got something close enough to work
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2017-09-08T09:37:23 < dongs> fucking
2017-09-08T09:37:25 < dongs> wikipedo beg pages
2017-09-08T09:37:29 < dongs> every fucking pedo link I open begas
2017-09-08T09:37:30 < dongs> begs
2017-09-08T09:37:33 < dongs> i close that fucking thing
2017-09-08T09:37:38 < dongs> next time it fucking begs again
2017-09-08T09:37:53 < dongs> is there a "fuck off, i dont contribute to jimmy whales yacht fund" button?
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2017-09-08T09:41:23 < dongs> http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/12/Wales1.jpg
2017-09-08T09:48:05 < dongs> Come and hear the sad tale of corrupt oper Steve, as lad the choir he dreamed of being the priest's cocksleeve. But when he confessed to the father, they sent Young Steve away, what are the odds, he picked a priest that wasn't gay! Later in high school before he was spoony, Steve skipped the prom saying "No one would do me :("
2017-09-08T09:48:10 < dongs> He tried to find solace on the snowboarding slope but he broke his neck on the bunny hill like a real fucking dope. Now he sits on the computer and cries as he chats, counting down the minutes until his next fentanyl patch.
2017-09-08T09:48:14 < dongs> found crt
2017-09-08T09:48:17 < dongs> aka stvn
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2017-09-08T09:58:38 < dongs> fucking cunt isnt here to appreciate it
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2017-09-08T10:36:50 < Steffanx> There he is dongs, your steve.
2017-09-08T10:36:58 < Steffanx> Aka crt
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2017-09-08T10:40:16 < Fleck> aka beaky
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2017-09-08T10:54:33 < stvn> hi Fleck
2017-09-08T10:54:40 < stvn> hi Steffanx
2017-09-08T10:54:43 < stvn> hi R2COM
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2017-09-08T11:05:41 < dongs> i visited your place
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2017-09-08T11:12:27 < ohsix> any of you haxors know of really simple executives
2017-09-08T11:12:38 < ohsix> like, withotu having to come up with syscalls and blocking
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2017-09-08T11:14:27 < ohsix> i wanna do an interval timer shit work queue thing, but there's no safe way to preempt or interrupt one of the threads withotu a lot of book keeping
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2017-09-08T11:17:04 < ohsix> like, if i used a flag for that process not being safe to interrupt now; and blast out the work queue, blame it on the task that was uninterruptable when the next timer came up, then add a function to the workqueue that adds all the tasks back
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2017-09-08T11:26:58 < ohsix> https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/voynich-manuscript-solution/
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2017-09-08T11:48:12 < dongs> oh hell
2017-09-08T11:48:18 < dongs> did jewbunto start calling themselves from A again
2017-09-08T11:48:27 < dongs> i was hoping by the time they run out of alphabet they'd just shut down
2017-09-08T11:48:57 < dongs> Jewbunto 13.37 "Asstastic Asshole"
2017-09-08T11:57:46 < dongs> viewer.autodesk.com is fucking amazing
2017-09-08T11:58:02 < dongs> (as soon as I clicked prefs and inverted mouse zoom direction)
2017-09-08T11:59:00 < stvn> wasn't it autistic x
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2017-09-08T12:10:53 < ohsix> their ipad app crashes if you rotate the tablet
2017-09-08T12:11:03 < ohsix> which is rare for a phone/tablet amirite!
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2017-09-08T13:04:59 < dongs> anyone remember off hand WS2812 speed
2017-09-08T13:05:06 < dongs>  is it 640ns period?
2017-09-08T13:05:09 < dongs> or 1280-ish
2017-09-08T13:06:30 < dongs> nvm it was 1280
2017-09-08T13:06:33 < dongs> had my timer doubled
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2017-09-08T14:24:03 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2017-09-08T14:24:07 < Laurenceb_> >Reactions to receiving negative feedback by email in the workplace
2017-09-08T14:24:13 < Laurenceb_> yo dawg the email thread
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2017-09-08T14:29:55 < Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/a/yRFS4
2017-09-08T14:30:02 < Laurenceb_> this is going to be fun to solder
2017-09-08T14:34:37 < Steffanx> Stencil oven/hot air .. easy..
2017-09-08T14:35:59 < Steffanx> What are those weird traces under the qfn packages Laurenceb_ ?
2017-09-08T14:36:18 < Laurenceb_> to get them sitting evenly
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2017-09-08T14:54:19 < dongs> obs is fucking amazing, can do so much cocks
2017-09-08T15:00:54 < Laurenceb_> obs wut
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2017-09-08T15:39:38 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJJ98ThXoAAZpCq.jpg
2017-09-08T15:53:38 < Laurenceb_> oh shit my colleagues have arrived
2017-09-08T15:53:47 < Laurenceb_> wtf its 2pm on Friday afternoon
2017-09-08T15:53:47 < sync> no more channing
2017-09-08T15:53:54 < Laurenceb_> yeah shit sucks
2017-09-08T15:54:19 < Laurenceb_> Russian grrrl is reading IDF personal defence manual
2017-09-08T15:54:30 < Laurenceb_> almost as batshit as I am
2017-09-08T15:55:28 < Laurenceb_> reee ST made my board already
2017-09-08T15:55:29 < Laurenceb_> http://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STEVAL-WESU1/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsNqjna29dfSkyLvhy0EglT5wWSaBSqBiU%3d
2017-09-08T15:56:55 < dongs> i had that for liek a year
2017-09-08T15:57:05 < dongs> you're way late to the party
2017-09-08T15:57:13 < Laurenceb_> pools closed
2017-09-08T15:57:19 < Laurenceb_> too big anyways
2017-09-08T15:57:35 < Laurenceb_> now I just need to find cheap source of LIS3MDL
2017-09-08T16:01:14 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/FeU2FJV
2017-09-08T16:01:27  * Laurenceb_ heads to livejasmin to find his cousin
2017-09-08T16:02:22 < dongs> incest is best
2017-09-08T16:04:18 < Laurenceb_> how shit she went Emo
2017-09-08T16:04:25 < Laurenceb_> wow
2017-09-08T16:11:17 < Laurenceb_> reee LSM303C is in stock
2017-09-08T16:11:21 < Laurenceb_> I'm such a tard
2017-09-08T16:11:48 < Laurenceb_> should have made pcb with lsm303c footprint as it uses lis3mdl internally
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2017-09-08T16:18:21 < dongs> Hi Friends. If you're like Me, you've probably lost countless friends, colleagues, and even family members to the scourge of open source software. Up until now, if you caught a friend with a linux LiveCD, all you could do was delete that person from your life and pray none of your other friends got infected. NO LONGER!
2017-09-08T16:18:26 < dongs> Now with my new book "Raped in the Mind by Tux: Purging the Demon of Open Source From Your Loved Ones" you can finally get your friends off the Linux and back into your life! Includes can't miss sections like "Too many cooks spoil the broth", "Linux is Free if your Time is Worthless", and "Freenode is a Shitheap."
2017-09-08T16:18:31 < dongs> Also includes can't-miss tutorials on installing IIS, purchasing a Windows 10 license, using non-crypto currency, and bathing! Just $19.95, available on amazon.com!
2017-09-08T16:19:20 < Laurenceb_> irl lolld
2017-09-08T16:19:33 < Laurenceb_> >and bathing
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2017-09-08T16:20:03  * Laurenceb_ just ordered 50 breakout board from polulu
2017-09-08T16:20:15 < Laurenceb_> desolder tiem
2017-09-08T16:20:21 < dongs> congrats, youre supporting communism
2017-09-08T16:20:26 < dongs> pololu is such a fucking scam
2017-09-08T16:20:34 < dongs> more like po-lol-@-u
2017-09-08T16:23:40 < Laurenceb_> no other source of lis3mdl
2017-09-08T16:25:48 < sync> if you can wait 26 weeks mouser will have 65479 pcs
2017-09-08T16:26:52 < Laurenceb_> lel
2017-09-08T16:27:03  * Laurenceb_ just asked 4chan to write him a dating profile
2017-09-08T16:27:25 < Laurenceb_>  "I walk to work in the early morning and walk home in the late evening. I work in a Kitchen surrounded by men all day. My hobbies include cooking, history, politics and picking mushrooms."
2017-09-08T16:27:32 < dongs> Laurenceb_: http://i.imgur.com/yDYHzBM.jpg how much dicc do you wanna succ, boi
2017-09-08T16:27:47 < Laurenceb_>  "the place where I live is filled with some of the most dog faced, foul mouthed and cretinous chavs in Britain. Talking to some of the locals here is like being barked at by a dog."
2017-09-08T16:28:11 < Laurenceb_> dongs: how many?
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2017-09-08T16:35:55 < Laurenceb_> ouch
2017-09-08T16:36:04 < Laurenceb_> BOM up to UKP600/sensor system
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2017-09-08T16:37:43 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/Y0yVVQ8
2017-09-08T16:38:08 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/qUEnz5c
2017-09-08T16:39:27 < sync> nice
2017-09-08T16:39:41 < englishman> dongs i got this project, client asked to use polol board, soldered on 0.1" headers
2017-09-08T16:39:49 < englishman> im like, this can easily be cloned onto mainboard
2017-09-08T16:39:53 < englishman> nah plz use polol
2017-09-08T16:39:55 < englishman> -_-
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2017-09-08T16:40:07 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/DYnPS7O
2017-09-08T16:40:26 < Laurenceb_> englishman confirmed as making maker tier projects
2017-09-08T16:40:58  * englishman consults the negative feedback manual
2017-09-08T16:41:06  * englishman cries
2017-09-08T16:41:24 < dongs> englishman: lul, i had some dude on a similar proj few weeks ago that I didnt take
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2017-09-08T16:42:01 < englishman> i was going to refuse, as it was mostly a clonejob, until they accepted my quote
2017-09-08T16:42:02 < dongs> originally started: we have shields on retarduiino, want to make clean board
2017-09-08T16:42:18 < Laurenceb_> where do you guys find these ppl
2017-09-08T16:42:20 < englishman> didnt tell them about the hidden cloner fees
2017-09-08T16:42:22 < dongs> an hour lateR: nah, we' gonna use some arduino 2560 pro mini and shields on a carrier board
2017-09-08T16:42:26 < dongs> ffffu, get out
2017-09-08T16:42:33 < Laurenceb_> my projects are usually from ppl who havent got a clue
2017-09-08T16:42:47 < Laurenceb_> but need shitton of regulatory compliance documentation
2017-09-08T16:42:50 < englishman> you need to charge enough to make them go away
2017-09-08T16:43:06 < englishman> this turned out to be a pretty interesting industrial apparatus controller
2017-09-08T16:43:20 < Laurenceb_> weird
2017-09-08T16:43:22 < englishman> and a pretty old local machining co
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2017-09-08T16:43:39 < Laurenceb_> here anyone asking for something like that wouldn't have a clue about tarduino
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2017-09-08T16:43:53 < Laurenceb_> luckily
2017-09-08T16:44:27 < Laurenceb_> but they could probably quote a bazillion retarded standards it needed to meet
2017-09-08T16:44:48 < jpa-> for some things carrier boards are actually pretty nice, easy to replace, easy to second-source etc.
2017-09-08T16:45:11 < englishman> no 2nd source for pololo boards
2017-09-08T16:45:16 < englishman> at least, this specific one
2017-09-08T16:45:27 < englishman> certainly was a 2nd source for the chip that was on it
2017-09-08T16:45:39 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/ZveNR7v
2017-09-08T16:45:54 < englishman> replacement is one thing, but they planned to solder it on
2017-09-08T16:46:09 < jpa-> eh.. ok, then doesn't make sense
2017-09-08T16:47:50 < englishman> https://forbharat.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/usbard02.jpg
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2017-09-08T16:53:32 < Laurenceb_> lel
2017-09-08T16:53:48 < Laurenceb_> like the fail version of elm-chan
2017-09-08T16:54:24 < jadew> tpw_rules, having multiple blank pads as copper in the footprint didn't work
2017-09-08T16:54:33 < tpw_rules> really?
2017-09-08T16:54:35 < jadew> well, that worked, but the DRC doesn't like it
2017-09-08T16:54:38 < tpw_rules> oh
2017-09-08T16:55:09 < dongs> jadew: youa re still drawing that footprint?
2017-09-08T16:55:12 < dongs> Lol @ you
2017-09-08T16:55:19 < jadew> dongs, I did it last night :)
2017-09-08T16:55:28 < jadew> now I'm just considering my options
2017-09-08T16:55:43 < jadew> I guess I'll just have to draw the copper after I place the footprint
2017-09-08T16:56:09 < englishman> makes the whole idea of a footprint pretty useless
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2017-09-08T16:58:11 < jadew> this is what I'm trying to get: http://188.25.35.141/stuff/footprint.png
2017-09-08T16:58:37 < jadew> there are 11 SMD pads in there
2017-09-08T16:59:06 < jadew> and the result is weird anyway because of the solder mask clearance of those trapezoidal pads
2017-09-08T17:11:32 < dongs> 11 smd pads?
2017-09-08T17:15:38 < jadew> yeah, that's how I made those chamfered corners
2017-09-08T17:15:43 < jadew> and the pad isle
2017-09-08T17:16:08 < jadew> and there's a bigger padon top of pad 2 and 4
2017-09-08T17:16:30 < jadew> I guess that would have been optional, but I wanted the original pad underneeth for guidance
2017-09-08T17:16:42 < Rob235> I wish I wasn't broke :( I want to go 3d print at the library
2017-09-08T17:17:24 < jpa-> it costs?
2017-09-08T17:17:40 < Rob235> $2.50 per ounce
2017-09-08T17:17:59 < Rob235> But I need gas for my car too
2017-09-08T17:18:42 < Laurenceb_> 3d print at the library
2017-09-08T17:18:44 < Laurenceb_> lulwut
2017-09-08T17:19:00 < jadew> https://slickdeals.net/f/10447344-orcad-capture-schematic-layout-printed-circuit-board-software-430-permanent-license?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1
2017-09-08T17:19:10 < jadew> orcad on the cheap
2017-09-08T17:19:18 < jpa-> Rob235: use a bike
2017-09-08T17:19:22 < Laurenceb_> parents: talk to your kids about the dangers of 3d printing
2017-09-08T17:19:50 < Rob235> yea, local libraries have 3d printers.  the closest one is a 45 min drive, they have a replicator 5th gen
2017-09-08T17:20:47 < Rob235> not local enough
2017-09-08T17:22:03 < c10ud^> wtf how can they do that jadew ?
2017-09-08T17:22:15 < jadew> c10ud^, do what?
2017-09-08T17:22:25 < c10ud^> selling licenses on the cheap
2017-09-08T17:22:27 < jadew> the price reduction?
2017-09-08T17:22:29 < jadew> I don't know :)
2017-09-08T17:22:43 < c10ud^> I've been stalked by Orcad guys for a year after asking the cost for pcb designer pro
2017-09-08T17:22:58 < c10ud^> and after they saw I installed the lite version to do a few simulations
2017-09-08T17:23:01 < c10ud^> ew
2017-09-08T17:23:30 < jadew> I tried OrCAD a while ago and didn't like it
2017-09-08T17:23:45 < jadew> what I'd like is Altium
2017-09-08T17:24:01 < Steffanx> Orcad rules. Ask aretoocommy
2017-09-08T17:24:33 < aandrew> I loved OrCAD back in the SDT/PCB386+ days
2017-09-08T17:24:41 < aandrew> back when software shipped with its own video drivers :-)
2017-09-08T17:24:57 < Steffanx> You are old.
2017-09-08T17:28:01 < englishman> orcad sucked even for vlsi
2017-09-08T17:28:50 < Laurenceb_> https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/george-osbourne
2017-09-08T17:28:54 < Laurenceb_> top kek
2017-09-08T17:29:23 < englishman> dono about you but http://go.ema-eda.com/OrCADPCB4Free doesnt even load
2017-09-08T17:29:27 < englishman> looks like a romanian scam to me
2017-09-08T17:29:54 < jadew> englishman, it works for me
2017-09-08T17:30:06 < jadew> I'm actually considering buying it now, but I remember hating it
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2017-09-08T17:30:28 < jadew> so now I'm trying to figure out if it does the things I need and if I can get used to it
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2017-09-08T17:37:35 < Rob235> ugh, I haven't slept in 3 days, methadone blows
2017-09-08T17:47:57 < jpa-> are you taking it for arduino-induced migraine?
2017-09-08T17:50:04 < Rob235> of course
2017-09-08T17:53:20 < Rob235> herbal sleep mix, I wonder what kind of tea this is
2017-09-08T17:53:37 < Rob235> I gotta try and get some rest, I feel terrible
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2017-09-08T18:58:02 < Laurenceb_> <Rob235> ugh, I haven't slept in 3 days, methadone blows
2017-09-08T18:58:05 < Laurenceb_> lulwut
2017-09-08T18:58:08 < Laurenceb_> not sure if trollin
2017-09-08T18:59:12 < Rob235> nope, not trollin
2017-09-08T19:01:22 < sync> maybe that is why you are broke, boi
2017-09-08T19:01:26 < Rob235> I relapsed a month or two ago and then got clean, but I was still having cravings and wanted to be able to focus on school so I got some suboxone, ran out and then found this new clinic and they offer suboxone and methadone, never tried methadone so I started it on tuesday.  I think I like suboxone better.  Opiates usually knock people out but they keep me up because I have a terrible histamine reaction and itch like crazy
2017-09-08T19:01:56 < Rob235> nah I didn't spend a lot.  I'm just not working at the moment
2017-09-08T19:06:09 < Rob235> I think Im gonna have to sell my car to pay for the rest of my school :(
2017-09-08T19:06:42 < Rob235> I guess I could get a part time job and then take a loan out with the car as collateral
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2017-09-08T19:15:01 < Steffanx> Stop drugs..
2017-09-08T19:16:33 < Rob235> I'm just on low maintenance dosages of legit drugs now.  Not ideal but better off than a few weeks ago
2017-09-08T19:17:47 < Rob235> I'm more productive than usual when I'm on this type of dosage
2017-09-08T19:17:52 < Rob235> compared to nothing
2017-09-08T19:18:41 < Rob235> its just when I get depressed or something shit happens and I go overboard with it that things get fux0red
2017-09-08T19:19:26 < Rob235> I'm going to shave every hair off my head/body
2017-09-08T19:20:56 < Rob235> sweet, I weigh more than I ever have!
2017-09-08T19:24:04 < Rob235> 6'5 170 lbs
2017-09-08T19:24:25 < karlp> soudns like you're still junkie skinny then if I remember freedom units
2017-09-08T19:24:40 < Rob235> its not from drugs, its genetics
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2017-09-08T19:24:57 < Rob235> using for 3 weeks isn't going to do anything...
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2017-09-08T19:28:58 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/CaLQNjM.jpg pro STM32'ing
2017-09-08T19:34:10 < aandrew> lol
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2017-09-08T19:42:28 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/tioCUIQ
2017-09-08T19:43:51 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/fTTJDAj
2017-09-08T19:47:15 < Laurenceb_> https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-41145247
2017-09-08T19:51:19 < aandrew> what the fuck
2017-09-08T19:51:25 < aandrew> pidgin is a real thing?
2017-09-08T19:51:30 < dongs> bbc has nothing bettetr to do
2017-09-08T19:52:49 < Laurenceb_> we are in a troll world now
2017-09-08T19:53:02 < Laurenceb_> its impossible to troll cuz reality is a troll
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2017-09-08T20:16:12 < Laurenceb> how do i run two displays from a single dvi port?
2017-09-08T20:16:18 < dongs> you dont, wtf
2017-09-08T20:17:37 < Laurenceb> I thought there were two sets of data lines?
2017-09-08T20:22:18 < englishman> dvi
2017-09-08T20:22:19 < englishman> wat
2017-09-08T20:22:21 < englishman> what year is it
2017-09-08T20:23:57 < Laurenceb> trying to get my wurk desktop to behave
2017-09-08T20:25:17 < Laurenceb> my dvi adaptor seems to clone channel 1, wtf
2017-09-08T20:25:27 < Laurenceb> nothing wired up on the second channel
2017-09-08T20:25:43 < Steffanx> Isnt that limited to 2x 1280xsomething?
2017-09-08T20:25:49 < dongs> theres single/dual link dvi
2017-09-08T20:25:58 < dongs> dual link is for those dumb 2560x1440 monitors nobody is using in 2017
2017-09-08T20:26:02 < dongs> fuck dvi just use displayport
2017-09-08T20:26:11 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-09-08T20:26:12 < Steffanx> ^
2017-09-08T20:26:19 < Laurenceb> there is displayport ont eh graphics card
2017-09-08T20:26:42 < Steffanx> http://time.is/japan
2017-09-08T20:26:52 < Steffanx> :)
2017-09-08T20:27:12 < Laurenceb> is displayport -> dual DVI possible?
2017-09-08T20:27:26 < dongs> ..
2017-09-08T20:29:15 < Laurenceb> holy shit wut
2017-09-08T20:29:21 < Laurenceb> why so expensive
2017-09-08T20:29:30 < dongs> because literally nobody wants this trash
2017-09-08T20:29:52 < Laurenceb> hmf maybe I could buy new monitors
2017-09-08T20:29:57 < Laurenceb> but I need 4:32
2017-09-08T20:30:01 < Laurenceb> *4:3
2017-09-08T20:30:02 < dongs> ?
2017-09-08T20:31:02 < Laurenceb> looks like they still exist :P
2017-09-08T20:32:05 < sync> buy 1:1
2017-09-08T20:32:47 < sync> or just get 27" 4k and view your 1024x768 as a single window in the middle
2017-09-08T20:33:08 < sync> https://www.eizo.de/flexscan/ev2730q-bk/
2017-09-08T20:33:27 < Laurenceb> nice
2017-09-08T20:34:05 < englishman> wat
2017-09-08T20:34:30 < sync> it is glorious englishman
2017-09-08T20:34:57 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-09-08T20:35:02 < englishman> 27" and <2000 pixels
2017-09-08T20:35:04 < englishman> no, it is not
2017-09-08T20:35:30 < sync> well yes, but the formfactor is nice
2017-09-08T20:35:36 < englishman> glue two 1080p monitors on top of one another, you have the same thing for $199
2017-09-08T20:35:46 < sync> but muh panel gaps
2017-09-08T20:36:03 < englishman> laurent is crosseyed enough he won't know the difference
2017-09-08T20:38:15 < Steffanx> Lol
2017-09-08T20:38:33 < Laurenceb> dat trollage
2017-09-08T20:38:36 < Laurenceb> ok epin win
2017-09-08T20:38:40 < Steffanx> Dont be mean to LoRanceb so much
2017-09-08T20:38:49  * Laurenceb just got displayport->dual dvi for UKP2.30 on ebay
2017-09-08T20:38:55 < dongs> no you didnt
2017-09-08T20:39:10 < Laurenceb> seller had good feedback...
2017-09-08T20:39:20 < Laurenceb> who cares if its a scam...
2017-09-08T20:39:30 < Steffanx> Scam the scammer.
2017-09-08T20:40:12 < englishman> yeah no, thats going to be some direct cable
2017-09-08T20:40:23 < englishman> maybe splodes your moniturds
2017-09-08T20:45:47 < Laurenceb> its second hand
2017-09-08T20:45:55 < Laurenceb> someone who sells boxes full of old shit
2017-09-08T20:51:13 < englishman> fuck i hate when i get chinese food and they give me a suggestion cookie
2017-09-08T20:51:36 < BrainDamage> because it contains bad omens?
2017-09-08T20:51:48 < englishman> no, because it doesnt
2017-09-08T20:52:06 < BrainDamage> "beware of flaming arrows"
2017-09-08T20:52:16 < englishman> yeah like i didnt already know that, cookie
2017-09-08T20:52:50 < gxti> you sound like my old boss
2017-09-08T20:53:23 < gxti> actually that's not true, he didn't say he hated it, he just never failed to point it out every time we got chinese for lunch
2017-09-08T20:54:44 < Steffanx> Better move to dutchland englishman. Here they dont give you such thing
2017-09-08T20:56:48 < BrainDamage> here neither
2017-09-08T20:57:44 < englishman> you're not missing out
2017-09-08T21:00:38 < Laurenceb> >chinese "food"
2017-09-08T21:00:54 < Steffanx> yes there is more than subway and mcdonalds Laurenceb
2017-09-08T21:01:12 < Laurenceb> or you could eat proper and healthy food
2017-09-08T21:01:27 < Steffanx> vegan much?
2017-09-08T21:01:31 < Laurenceb> or eat the chinese
2017-09-08T21:01:39 < Laurenceb> pity CJD is a thing
2017-09-08T21:03:26 < BrainDamage> there's plenty of decent chinese food
2017-09-08T21:04:00 < Laurenceb> leg muscle, arm muscle, liver, spleen
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2017-09-08T21:04:53 < Laurenceb> I'm turning into Alexander Gordon Jahans
2017-09-08T21:05:10 < englishman> there is more than blood and brain pudding and stale bread
2017-09-08T21:05:50 < Steffanx> black pudding <3 (not)
2017-09-08T21:06:08 < Laurenceb> https://kiwifarms.net/threads/alexander-gordon-jahans-gordon-jones-farsh-nuke.18637/
2017-09-08T21:06:10 < BrainDamage> do you guys have lemon chicken too? ( chinese food tends to differ based on the local cousine )
2017-09-08T21:07:06 < Steffanx> doesnt sound familiar
2017-09-08T21:08:52 < Laurenceb> >Alexander Gordon jahans (AKA THE NEW CHRIS CHAN)
2017-09-08T21:08:55 < Laurenceb> accurate
2017-09-08T21:09:11 < Steffanx> and yet i still dont give a shit :)
2017-09-08T21:17:05 < englishman> lemon chicken is good stuff
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2017-09-08T21:19:10 < Laurenceb> https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/4-png.192129/
2017-09-08T21:19:52 < englishman> hmm 100MW battery
2017-09-08T21:20:42 < Laurenceb> https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/watthe-png.262589/
2017-09-08T21:21:39 < englishman> model s has 581kW combined output motors but what kind of input
2017-09-08T21:22:06 < englishman> if motors are 100% efficient then its only 172 tesla model s batteries to source 100MW
2017-09-08T21:22:12 < englishman> so no big loss for mr musk
2017-09-08T21:23:15 < ohsix> without a timeframe it doesn't mean much
2017-09-08T21:23:22 < englishman> hmm apparently battery is only 451kW when motor output is 568kW
2017-09-08T21:23:24 < englishman> i wonder how that works
2017-09-08T21:23:25 < ohsix> unless you mean from the esr alone
2017-09-08T21:24:15 < sync> chemistry probably
2017-09-08T21:24:19 < sync> M A G I C
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2017-09-08T21:24:48 < englishman> free supercharging isnt included anymore
2017-09-08T21:24:53 < englishman> limited to 400kWh/year
2017-09-08T21:24:58 < ohsix> measurement error or extrapolation
2017-09-08T21:25:19 < ohsix> or trying to incorporate torque for a different engine type in a composite number
2017-09-08T21:25:38 < ohsix> in the eu motor output is in kw and measured differently than horsepower at the wheels in the us
2017-09-08T21:28:42 < ohsix> engine shits could be rated without the battery too
2017-09-08T21:31:09 < ohsix> The older American standard (SAE gross horsepower, referred to as bhp) used an engine without alternator, water pump, and other auxiliary components such as power steering pump, muffled exhaust system, etc., so the figures were higher than the European figures for the same engine.  lul
2017-09-08T21:31:14 < ohsix> seems legit
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2017-09-08T21:53:56 < kakimir> kebab.exe
2017-09-08T22:00:56 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6Si4EUipj0 kakimir.
2017-09-08T22:01:24 < Steffanx> ( sound kaspersky made in the good old days when it found a virus )
2017-09-08T22:02:19 < kakimir> jesus
2017-09-08T22:02:40 < kakimir> you know what sound avast makes when it finds a virus?
2017-09-08T22:03:01 < kakimir> no sound - it doesn't find it
2017-09-08T22:03:28 < kakimir> or can it be that I have not had virus for years..
2017-09-08T22:05:24 < Steffanx> :)
2017-09-08T22:05:38 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ5gkJDmZv4 Galantis - In My Head
2017-09-08T22:06:06 < kakimir> it's very disturbing that there is this feeling of security
2017-09-08T22:06:15 < kakimir> in dangerous internets
2017-09-08T22:06:30 < kakimir> one link in IRCs is all it takes
2017-09-08T22:08:54 < ohsix> lul reading ublox proto doc
2017-09-08T22:09:08 < ohsix> they talk about 15 different localization things i didn't even know of, or that they were used together
2017-09-08T22:15:47 < PaulFertser> What would be an easy and no-hassle way to get some IDE to learn C console programming on OS X? Code::Blocks is outdated on that os.
2017-09-08T22:16:11 < Steffanx> eclipse? :P
2017-09-08T22:17:16 < Steffanx> otherwise maybe xcode
2017-09-08T22:17:18 < PaulFertser> Well, I'd like something that works out of the box without additional configuration, installing plugins etc. And step-by-step debugging would be nice to have.
2017-09-08T22:17:38 < PaulFertser> Is xcode freely downloadable from official apple servers?
2017-09-08T22:17:43 < Steffanx> xcode can do command line c project i believe.
2017-09-08T22:17:43 < Steffanx> yes
2017-09-08T22:17:51 < PaulFertser> Ah, ok then, nice. Thanks a lot :)
2017-09-08T22:17:57 < Steffanx> use the apple store thingy. it should be in there
2017-09-08T22:18:10 < Steffanx> for free.
2017-09-08T22:19:41 < Laurenceb> 🐱🐀i🚾🗻🗼⚓💈⛪🏫⛪🏪🏩🏨🏧🎱⚾🚿🅾🆎♑🆎⏳🔜🔙🔝💯🚰🅰🅾🅱💯💯💯💯💯💯
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2017-09-08T22:41:14 < kakimir> Back to the Future was fun movie
2017-09-08T22:47:38 < Steffanx> ya
2017-09-08T22:47:54 < jadew> I liked it too
2017-09-08T22:47:55 < Steffanx> time for the new pirates of the caribbean
2017-09-08T22:48:29 < kakimir> I doubt
2017-09-08T22:48:40 < Steffanx> no
2017-09-08T22:50:20 < Steffanx> Just pre-watch the free version and then go to the cinema, when you liked it, kakimir
2017-09-08T22:51:49 < kakimir> I won't
2017-09-08T22:52:03 < kakimir> next movie in cinema is bladerunner
2017-09-08T22:52:17 < kakimir> I accumulate pressure for it
2017-09-08T22:52:29 < BrainDamage> bladderpressure
2017-09-08T22:53:46 < kakimir> I have been so desperate in movies that I have had my dick ready in empty 1litre soda cup
2017-09-08T22:54:01 < kakimir> that movie had 3false endings
2017-09-08T22:54:16 < kakimir> every one like +15min for movie
2017-09-08T22:54:41 < Steffanx> " that"  movie?
2017-09-08T22:54:54 < kakimir> I don't remember - it's all the same crap
2017-09-08T22:55:44 < kakimir> besides I focused on having to pee in soda cup
2017-09-08T22:55:59 < kakimir> I didn't
2017-09-08T22:56:04 < Steffanx> Dear mr jpa- are you still awake and around?
2017-09-08T22:56:14 < Steffanx> or around and awake, or any order of those 2
2017-09-08T22:58:22 < kakimir> nowdays I would just leave
2017-09-08T23:00:24 < Steffanx> Do people ever tell you, you are weird kakimir?
2017-09-08T23:01:43 < kakimir> who?
2017-09-08T23:02:11 < Steffanx> peple
2017-09-08T23:02:14 < Steffanx> people
2017-09-08T23:02:18 < kakimir> peeples?
2017-09-08T23:02:21 < kakimir> no
2017-09-08T23:02:59 < Steffanx> just me then?
2017-09-08T23:04:01 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-08T23:04:21 < kakimir> you see anyone other calling me weird?
2017-09-08T23:04:26 < kakimir> no
2017-09-08T23:05:43 < Steffanx> idk, that's why i asked :)
2017-09-08T23:17:00 < englishman> http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/581404323/podcase-battery-case-for-your-iphone-and-airpods/
2017-09-08T23:19:28 < BrainDamage> i use a tether cable to ensure my headphones are powered and hard to lose
2017-09-08T23:19:57 < englishman> genius
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2017-09-09T00:04:49 < jadew> anyone got toshiba light bulbs?
2017-09-09T00:05:24 < jadew> they seem to have some with 90 CRI for $10/pcs
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2017-09-09T03:29:24 < dongs> lol, directly charging in HKD
2017-09-09T03:30:23 < dongs> Plus, wether it's an international flight or a day at the coffee shop, PodCase's 2500 mAh battery ensures you’ve got the power you need from takeoff to touchdown, latte to layer cake.
2017-09-09T03:30:29 < dongs> target audience identified
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2017-09-09T03:36:15 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVp9rKF3hag
2017-09-09T03:48:27 < dongs> why the nigger does new jewtube layout look like my new 4K monitor is a fucking ipad
2017-09-09T03:48:42 < dongs> what a complete and useless waste of fucking space
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2017-09-09T04:09:31 < dongs> contrast on this garbage LCD is fucking trash
2017-09-09T04:09:45 < dongs> something to do with VO i think but nothing  tells me what its supposed to be at
2017-09-09T04:09:59 < dongs> im not an arduino pro so I don't have a 10k pot to try various combinations of stuff
2017-09-09T04:10:03 < dongs> watdo
2017-09-09T04:17:31 < Laurenceb__> fap
2017-09-09T04:17:39 < Laurenceb__> I need to fap moar
2017-09-09T04:17:59 < Laurenceb__> muh gantt chart is liek 70% complete after 1month
2017-09-09T04:19:02 < Laurenceb__> have 9 months to make this shit
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2017-09-09T04:22:18 < Laurenceb__> >try to ring my half brother to see if he survived earthquake
2017-09-09T04:22:21 < Laurenceb__> >no answer
2017-09-09T04:22:29 < Laurenceb__> >freak out
2017-09-09T04:22:33 < Laurenceb__> >check facebook
2017-09-09T04:22:49 < Laurenceb__> >he is still posting retarded memes 24/7
2017-09-09T04:22:59 < dongs> protip: type up all your greentext into notepad.exe then paste it all at once
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2017-09-09T04:31:35 < Laurenceb__> wew I see REEE over DACA
2017-09-09T04:31:45 < Laurenceb__> top fucking kek
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2017-09-09T04:32:14 < Laurenceb__> >this shitskin voted for Trump
2017-09-09T04:32:45 < Laurenceb__>  *self deported*
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2017-09-09T04:32:51 < dongs> i voted for trump
2017-09-09T04:34:14 < Laurenceb__> yeah but ur not half Mexican
2017-09-09T04:43:28 < dongs> hm 50ms to update entire bitmap to this shitlcd
2017-09-09T04:43:30 < dongs> in serial mode
2017-09-09T04:45:36 < dongs> hmm i can even take it a bit faster
2017-09-09T04:45:43 < dongs> 600ns clock period, now its doing 780
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2017-09-09T05:00:28 < dongs> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b73_1504884251 fuckin lol
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2017-09-09T05:20:42 < stvn> englishman, welcoem
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2017-09-09T06:37:39 < englishman> goat realator
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2017-09-09T07:15:06 < Thorn> does this st-link http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9JEAAOSwgQ9Vrgi~/s-l1600.jpg only support Vddtarget = 3v3?
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2017-09-09T08:34:09 < ohsix> http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0181200
2017-09-09T08:34:30 < ohsix> :| still need to make an ultrasonic microphone thing
2017-09-09T08:34:37 < ohsix> been on the want-to-do since i was like 10
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2017-09-09T09:42:21 < jpa-> sterna: nope
2017-09-09T09:42:23 < jpa-> err
2017-09-09T09:42:28 < jpa-> Steffanx: nope
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2017-09-09T10:57:05 < ohsix> sup pros
2017-09-09T10:57:39 < ohsix> got to make a 2 piece pcb thing where one shape is an l and a rectangle goes in the crap space, and they snap apart
2017-09-09T10:59:21 < ohsix> haven't bought any pcb's, so; sparkfun has soem inner milled / snap apart ones that just use the Dimensions layer & lines, with some voids inside
2017-09-09T10:59:42 < ohsix> but there's also a milling layer that's used in some of the footprints and othe rpeople say to use for this shit
2017-09-09T11:13:26 < Steffanx> Ok jpa-
2017-09-09T11:16:55 < jpa-> ohsix: i would just use the dimension layer
2017-09-09T11:17:18 < jpa-> they probably both go to the same gerber layer in the end anyway
2017-09-09T11:32:08 < zyp> are the two designs related in any way? if not I'd keep them separate and tell whoever does the paneling to fit one in the leftover space from the other
2017-09-09T11:32:35 < zyp> by related I mean having signals going across until they are snapped apart
2017-09-09T11:33:05 < zyp> or having signals going across after they are snapped apart and soldered back together in some 3D shape
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2017-09-09T12:15:17 < ohsix> zyp: they're related ya, the l part has a 90 degree header on the longest end that mates on the long face of the rectangle board
2017-09-09T12:16:11 < ohsix> sparkfun has lots of stuff with milled slots, probably going to do whatever they do in most of them
2017-09-09T12:16:38 < ohsix> price isn't an issue butt i wanna get it compact and stuff just because i can
2017-09-09T12:18:45 < ohsix> the whole thing replaces a wiring harness that's just a pain in the ass to install
2017-09-09T12:22:40 < ohsix> hehe you wouldn't believe how many products are an off the shelf module, stuck unchanged in some extruded aluminum with a cable gland
2017-09-09T12:24:53 < ohsix> eagle is p. ok so far, biggest pain in the ass is looking at the layers in a footprint
2017-09-09T12:28:13 < ohsix> heh 'drills' layer is for conducting through holes, 'holes' is for non-conducting
2017-09-09T12:28:17 < ohsix> some old cruft here
2017-09-09T12:29:12 < zyp> eagle is p. ok if you haven't used anything decent
2017-09-09T12:29:29 < ohsix> adafruit neopixel ring stuff does just use a thing in the dimension layer
2017-09-09T12:29:38 < zyp> I mean, I've done bga256 in eagle
2017-09-09T12:29:40 < ohsix> so why are slots even a distinct thing
2017-09-09T12:29:44 < zyp> it's still shit compared to altium
2017-09-09T12:30:01 < ohsix> sure
2017-09-09T12:30:18 < ohsix> that's a bit of a strawman, but it would str8 up be a ton of work in eagle no matter what
2017-09-09T12:30:39 < zyp> what's a strawman?
2017-09-09T12:31:20 < ohsix> shrug, tired
2017-09-09T12:31:50 < ohsix> i mean the thing where it is true but it's also cherry picked and probably not relevant compared to the rest
2017-09-09T12:33:17 < ohsix> i kind of respect still having the text interface from way back, probably the beginning
2017-09-09T12:33:25 < ohsix> they need a full screen mode with no icons and shit though
2017-09-09T12:33:53 < ohsix> from way back, when you used pucks that sent commands to autocad & other cad system prompts directly
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2017-09-09T13:29:19 < dongs> < zyp> what's a strawman? < autism?
2017-09-09T13:31:52 < Steffanx> Isnt that what we do in ##stm32?
2017-09-09T13:32:04 < dongs> i got this chink piano matrix with 37keys
2017-09-09T13:32:22 < dongs> its got the fake velocity sense where it closes one switch then quickly another
2017-09-09T13:32:24 < dongs> as youre pressing the key
2017-09-09T13:32:33 < dongs> and you calc velocity by timing between those
2017-09-09T13:36:16 < PaulFertser> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument ?
2017-09-09T13:36:35 < dongs> autism6 likes to bring up this kinda trash
2017-09-09T13:36:47 < dongs> to waste time
2017-09-09T13:36:53 < dongs> instead of getting projects complete
2017-09-09T13:38:45 < Steffanx> and you care about that much.. beacuse?
2017-09-09T13:38:49 < Steffanx> You have time to care?
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2017-09-09T13:38:57 < Steffanx> Time you can spend better :P
2017-09-09T13:46:09 < Thorn> why do those China stm8 boards have 3.3v regulators when the mcu can run @ 5V
2017-09-09T13:46:19 < Thorn> which is one of the advantages over stm32
2017-09-09T13:46:21 < dongs> because china
2017-09-09T13:47:43 < Thorn> China saves money any way they can, even a counterfeit 1117-3.3 costs something
2017-09-09T13:48:12 < Thorn> I suspect they did it for compatibility with that st-link clone
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2017-09-09T14:00:27 < Thorn> looks like I will need a real st-link after all
2017-09-09T14:03:32 < dongs> BUMMER
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2017-09-09T14:06:33 < sync> how do yamaha keyboards do it dongs?
2017-09-09T14:06:42 < sync> potentiometer on every key?
2017-09-09T14:07:52 < dongs> sync not sure, could be same thing
2017-09-09T14:07:59 < dongs> googling around its a pretty common method
2017-09-09T14:08:08 < sync> yeah
2017-09-09T14:08:11 < dongs> there's expensive resistor film based shit
2017-09-09T14:08:12 < dongs> could be that too
2017-09-09T14:08:12 < sync> seems like an easy way to do it
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2017-09-09T15:29:31 < ReadErr> im worried about crt's autism
2017-09-09T15:29:43 < ReadErr> I feel like its progressing
2017-09-09T15:31:16 < jadew> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=188_1504911540
2017-09-09T15:38:06 < Steffanx> its not ReadErr. ##stm32 is just his outlet after a day in the shop
2017-09-09T15:38:22 < Steffanx> i can imagine you turn crazy a bit after reconing all day long
2017-09-09T15:41:06 < Steffanx> I think it's the ##stm32-effect. Laurenceb suffers from that too. In private crt is a normal guy, in #highaltitude Laurenceb is a different person too.
2017-09-09T15:41:32 < sync> you mean the positive feedback loop ##stm32 provides for autisms?
2017-09-09T15:41:58 < Steffanx> im not sure positive is the right word in this case, but yes.
2017-09-09T15:45:16 < Steffanx> I got my phd in ##stm32-ism so i know this stuff :P
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2017-09-09T15:53:31 < ReadErr> what ailment does R2COMMUNIST suffer
2017-09-09T15:59:52 < Steffanx> narcist megalomania etc.
2017-09-09T15:59:56 < Steffanx> *narcism
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2017-09-09T16:07:39 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pG_WFu3_tU
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2017-09-09T16:38:25 < englishman> a national hero
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2017-09-09T17:04:42 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/zCyC2Zf.jpg haiti
2017-09-09T17:04:51 < Steffanx> is florida gone yet?
2017-09-09T17:05:41 < Steffanx> !wz miami
2017-09-09T17:05:43 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Overcast. Temp is 29.2°C but feels like 36°C. NE wind: 37.0 kph. Humidity: 83%.
2017-09-09T17:05:54 < Steffanx> Nice weather
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2017-09-09T18:13:07 < Laurenceb__> !wz miami
2017-09-09T18:13:08 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Rain. Temp is 29.7°C but feels like 37°C. ENE wind: 53.1 kph. Humidity: 80%.
2017-09-09T18:17:56 < Laurenceb__> can I add a HID interface to my audio devices?
2017-09-09T18:18:12 < Laurenceb__> this would require an interrupt in endpoint right?
2017-09-09T18:23:30  * Laurenceb__ needs to send sensor calibration data to the device
2017-09-09T18:26:32 < kakimir> !wz miami
2017-09-09T18:26:34 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Overcast. Temp is 29.7°C but feels like 37°C. NE wind: 38.6 kph. Humidity: 79%.
2017-09-09T18:27:09 < Laurenceb__> so much for a storm
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2017-09-09T18:43:45 < devanagram> Laurenceb__: What kind of calibration data? If it's persistent-ish, you could write it directly into flash with that built-in DfuSe bootloader.
2017-09-09T18:43:53 < ReadErr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRDSAS9LHps
2017-09-09T19:11:52 < Laurenceb__> devanagram: hmm good point
2017-09-09T19:12:18 < Laurenceb__> yeah I could stick the cal at the top of flash
2017-09-09T19:12:29 < Laurenceb__> saves writing EEPROM emulation too
2017-09-09T19:13:37 < Laurenceb__> but dfu-util isn't cross platform
2017-09-09T19:14:22 < Laurenceb__> it'd be nice to stick this into Qt GUI eventually
2017-09-09T19:15:08 < Laurenceb__> ReadErr: wtf now I'm legit scared
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2017-09-09T19:27:08 < Steffanx> self-trolling much
2017-09-09T19:27:41 < karlp> Laurenceb: can  just use some control transfers too
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2017-09-09T20:23:00 < englishman> !wz Naples Florida
2017-09-09T20:23:02 < dieforirc> [Naples, Florida] Rain. Temp is 27.2°C but feels like 32°C. Humidity: 96%.
2017-09-09T20:23:43 < englishman> !wz key west Florida
2017-09-09T20:23:44 < dieforirc> [Key West, Florida] Light Rain. Temp is 26.8°C but feels like 30°C. Humidity: 87%.
2017-09-09T20:24:20 < jadew> I don't know why all those people are fleeing south FL
2017-09-09T20:25:06 < jadew> this is a perfect opportunity to start digging and build a shelter
2017-09-09T20:25:16 < englishman> digging, in Florida?
2017-09-09T20:25:21 < jadew> I bet most of them wanted to do it anyway, but they didn't have the opportunity
2017-09-09T20:25:30 < jadew> oh, it's not possible?
2017-09-09T20:25:40 < jadew> rocky soil?
2017-09-09T20:25:48 < englishman> water table is like 1ft below the surface, in normal conditions
2017-09-09T20:25:54 < englishman> there are no basements in Florida
2017-09-09T20:26:02 < jadew> ah
2017-09-09T20:26:07 < englishman> that water will now rise 10ft
2017-09-09T20:27:36 < jadew> are houses built out of wood mostly?
2017-09-09T20:28:50 < englishman> yes
2017-09-09T20:29:10 < englishman> but there are a lot of trailer parks too
2017-09-09T20:29:30 < englishman> and those are paper maché
2017-09-09T20:32:03 < jadew> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-06/submarine-hatch-killed-journalist-kim-wall-inventor-says/8877050
2017-09-09T20:32:46 < jadew> "Swedish journalist Kim Wall died when she was accidentally hit by a heavy hatch cover on board a home-made submarine, the Danish owner of the vessel has testified in court."
2017-09-09T20:33:49 < jadew> "Madsen said he tried to bury her at sea but denied mutilating her body, and added that he had contemplated killing himself while still on board."
2017-09-09T20:33:50 < jadew> lol
2017-09-09T20:34:27 < jadew> I wonder what he thought it would happen if he buried her at sea?
2017-09-09T20:35:08 < jadew> "- Where's Kim? - She died and I fed her to sharks."
2017-09-09T20:36:20 < jadew> "PHOTO: Danish inventor Peter Madsen was rescued after his submarine sank. (Reuters: Spancix Denmark/Bax Lindhardt)"
2017-09-09T20:36:30 < jadew> lol
2017-09-09T20:36:52 < jadew> am I deranged or is this shit funny?
2017-09-09T20:38:51 < Steffanx> Did you have sex with mr Laurence?
2017-09-09T20:39:10 < jadew> he managed to drop a hatch cover on a jurnalist and kill her and then his submarine sank - I bet that at some point he thought to himself that things can't get any worse, forgetting that he's going to jail next
2017-09-09T20:39:26 < jadew> Steffanx, did not!
2017-09-09T20:39:42 < Steffanx> ok, then you are not infected with his unfunniness
2017-09-09T20:39:49 < Steffanx> i think
2017-09-09T20:40:36 < jadew> this story reminds me of a guy back in the 90's, where computer supplies were scarce
2017-09-09T20:41:08 < jadew> he had a nice case for holding floppies (big, transparent, new)
2017-09-09T20:41:24 < jadew> he dropped a grenade on it and broke it lol
2017-09-09T20:42:47 < jadew> and grenades are as common in here as are private citizens who own submarines in Denmark
2017-09-09T20:43:31 < jadew> s/where/when/
2017-09-09T20:45:06 < Steffanx> he made the sub btw.
2017-09-09T20:45:33 < jadew> that's why I bolded home-made submarine when I posted the link :P
2017-09-09T20:45:54 < dongs> you didnt
2017-09-09T20:45:57 < dongs> this channel is +c
2017-09-09T20:46:03 < jadew> ah :/
2017-09-09T20:47:39 < jadew> "He admitted that he wanted to "bury her at sea" by attaching metal to the body in order for it to sink."
2017-09-09T20:48:02 < jadew> He should have tried with the hatch cover, I'm sure that would have done the job
2017-09-09T20:48:55 < jadew> "I had no contact with the body and didn't want a dead body in my submarine," Madsen told the court.
2017-09-09T20:49:03 < jadew> haha, the guy is fucking crazy
2017-09-09T20:50:14 < jadew> he kills her and then he's thinks about how inconvienient it is to have a dead body on his sub
2017-09-09T20:52:03 < jadew> "He said he considered ending his life but changed his mind because he wanted to see his wife and three "
2017-09-09T20:52:16 < jadew> on the next line: "cats."
2017-09-09T20:55:23 < jadew> I guess it's possible the guy was just shocked and stopped thinking straight
2017-09-09T20:55:53 < jadew> and now he's just honest about what happened
2017-09-09T21:01:54 < fest> jadew: not sure if it helps, but you're not the only one who finds that whole thing funny
2017-09-09T21:02:55 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyD7j_VtVnI
2017-09-09T21:05:14 < fest> why on earth there is no USB connector on F042 nucleo!?
2017-09-09T21:05:28 < dongs> why not
2017-09-09T21:05:56 < fest> I mean, USB is the main selling point for F042
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2017-09-09T21:11:41 < Steffanx> only right response to such idiot reported jadew :)
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2017-09-09T21:13:55 < Steffanx> probably because they dont make those nucleos for a specific mcu fest
2017-09-09T21:18:01 < fest> yeah, it seems that only the largest nucleo boards have USB
2017-09-09T21:19:40 < fest> I didn't realize the whole nucleo series has just three board types
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2017-09-09T22:12:12 < Steffanx> What would one use to add wifi to a project? I would like to avoid espX and the AT command stuff over uart.
2017-09-09T22:33:21 < tpw_rules> so how does alternate function selection for the USARTs work on L0?
2017-09-09T22:33:38 < tpw_rules> can i take any pin and mark its AF as USART1_TX and it will transmit? what if two are set that way?
2017-09-09T22:33:57 < tpw_rules> cause they seem to be in pairs. can i only select one pair?
2017-09-09T22:34:08 < karlp> Steffanx: modules from cypress?
2017-09-09T22:38:38 < tpw_rules> i can't find anything in the reference manual that says i can't?
2017-09-09T22:41:56 < Steffanx> You can.
2017-09-09T22:42:37 < tpw_rules> alright, cool
2017-09-09T22:42:37 < tpw_rules> thanks
2017-09-09T22:43:14 < tpw_rules> cause it looks to me like eg PA2/PA3 are a TX/RX pair. but i can select PA2 as TX and PA15 as RX?
2017-09-09T22:43:16 < Steffanx> karlp:  wiced, look into that a bit. Mainly seems to come with some built-in mcu (which happens to be a stm32 often :) )
2017-09-09T22:44:22 < jadew> tpw_rules, yes
2017-09-09T22:44:34 < tpw_rules> cool. thank you
2017-09-09T22:44:38 < jadew> np
2017-09-09T22:44:59 < jadew> I wonder what would happen if you selected two RX pins tho
2017-09-09T22:45:15 < tpw_rules> lol yeah
2017-09-09T22:45:17 < tpw_rules> fortunately i don't need that
2017-09-09T22:45:19 < Steffanx> Better use cube tpw_rules, it just lets you configure stuff like this. And cube never lies :P
2017-09-09T22:45:39 < tpw_rules> Steffanx: cube can't take my board layout into consideration :P
2017-09-09T22:45:59 < Steffanx> but you can tell cube to do it
2017-09-09T22:46:09 < tpw_rules> what do you mean
2017-09-09T22:46:12 < jadew> tpw_rules, yeah, but you can still use it to plan your pins
2017-09-09T22:49:50 < kakimir> #cube32
2017-09-09T22:50:07 < Steffanx> ##*
2017-09-09T23:21:32 < kakimir> I use single # to point it out sort of ironic way
2017-09-09T23:29:54 < Steffanx> i love you too, kakimir
2017-09-09T23:36:07 < kakimir> oh
2017-09-09T23:36:31 < kakimir> are you trying to melt my frozen feels?
2017-09-09T23:51:49 < Steffanx> i would never dare to do that mr karlp
2017-09-09T23:51:51 < Steffanx> * kakimir
2017-09-09T23:51:52 < Steffanx> whops
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2017-09-10T00:02:45 < kakimir> too late
2017-09-10T00:02:58 < kakimir> I think I have a mancrush
2017-09-10T00:07:24 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/SoBOWxU.jpg
2017-09-10T00:11:25 < karlp> nice!
2017-09-10T00:11:32 < englishman> thanks
2017-09-10T00:11:33 < englishman> oh hey
2017-09-10T00:12:02 < englishman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VDutMLPP/
2017-09-10T00:12:10 < englishman> which one of these should we start next
2017-09-10T00:12:43  * karlp is always partial to centennial
2017-09-10T00:12:55 < karlp> you've got what, hallertaur now? what else?
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2017-09-10T00:13:38 < englishman> jus tthat
2017-09-10T00:17:35 < englishman> whats centennial used for?
2017-09-10T00:26:51 < kakimir> build the spa englishman
2017-09-10T00:28:24 < englishman> kaks
2017-09-10T00:28:26 < englishman> pm
2017-09-10T00:28:37 < kakimir> !wz quebec
2017-09-10T00:28:38 < dieforirc> [Quebec Harbour, Canada] Clear. Temp is 14°C. SW wind: 15 kph. Humidity: 72%.
2017-09-10T00:30:01 < kakimir> winter is comming.
2017-09-10T00:34:20 < Steffanx> !wz kakiland
2017-09-10T00:34:21 < dieforirc> Unable to locate query.
2017-09-10T00:34:27 < Steffanx> its gone.
2017-09-10T00:40:37 < kakimir> !wz kaki
2017-09-10T00:40:38 < dieforirc> [Kaki Barama, Niger] Clear. Temp is 32°C. ESE wind: 22 kph.
2017-09-10T00:40:44 < kakimir> my homeland
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2017-09-10T01:06:13 < Laurenceb__> !wz miami
2017-09-10T01:06:14 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Rain. Temp is 25.1°C. North wind: 54.7 kph. Humidity: 89%.
2017-09-10T01:07:00 < Steffanx> Still alive it seems
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2017-09-10T01:19:26 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/hMp8Udi
2017-09-10T01:19:32 < Laurenceb__> I can't even right now
2017-09-10T01:20:00 < Laurenceb__> also that looks like some sort of bastardised Proton rocket
2017-09-10T01:26:17 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/Vijx3BX
2017-09-10T01:26:30 < Laurenceb__> looks like an irc or nasaspaceflight.com forum user
2017-09-10T01:48:05 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQeyjgSUlrk
2017-09-10T01:48:24 < jadew> the comment section is pretty funny
2017-09-10T02:08:40 < Laurenceb__> !wz miami
2017-09-10T02:08:41 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Rain. Temp is 28.4°C but feels like 34°C. NE wind: 35.4 kph. Humidity: 82%.
2017-09-10T02:10:06 < Steffanx> wind is down.
2017-09-10T02:10:11 < Steffanx> *wind speed
2017-09-10T02:29:26 < jadew> how long is this thing going to last?
2017-09-10T02:58:02 < Laurenceb__> until its been over land for a couple of days
2017-09-10T03:11:25 < jadew> over the water is sustaining itself?
2017-09-10T03:20:10 < Laurenceb__> yes
2017-09-10T03:36:44 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abnJLGTqhIQ
2017-09-10T03:46:27 < jadew> Laurenceb, that landing was great
2017-09-10T03:47:34 < Laurenceb__> I'm interested in the vapour trail
2017-09-10T03:47:46 < Laurenceb__> I suspect there is some secret sauce to the cooling
2017-09-10T03:48:03 < Laurenceb__> they blast something through the engines to cool them
2017-09-10T04:10:27 < Laurenceb__> !wz miami
2017-09-10T04:10:28 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Rain. Temp is 24.8°C. East wind: 45.1 kph. Humidity: 93%.
2017-09-10T04:10:31 < Laurenceb__> lame
2017-09-10T04:17:46 < Rob235> No diggity.
2017-09-10T04:17:46 < Rob235> No doubt
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2017-09-10T04:22:38  * Laurenceb__ is confused
2017-09-10T04:22:39 < Laurenceb__> https://gitlab.com/dfu-util/dfu-util/blob/47af500fc7ecce434981b15b0dcb77e707afe420/device-logs/stm32f107.lsusb
2017-09-10T04:22:56 < Laurenceb__>         bcdDFUVersion                   1.1a
2017-09-10T04:23:12 < Laurenceb__> how did they get an 'a' in there?!
2017-09-10T04:24:02 < Laurenceb__> apparently dfu-util will realise it's found an ST device if it sees that
2017-09-10T04:25:30 < Thorn> dunno specifically but iirc bcd is 4 bits per digit? so you can do BCHex at least in theory
2017-09-10T04:25:35 < jadew> Laurenceb, maybe it's in hex?
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2017-09-10T04:29:58 < Laurenceb__> 0x0110 is how 1.1 is represented
2017-09-10T04:30:02 < Laurenceb__> so yeah maybe
2017-09-10T04:30:10 < Laurenceb__> 0x011A  perhaps
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2017-09-10T04:33:28 < jadew> https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4408145/naked-women-parade-italy-social-experiment/
2017-09-10T04:34:36 < Laurenceb__> if ( (m_CurrDevDFUDesc.bcdDFUVersion<0x011A)
2017-09-10T04:34:46 < Laurenceb__> this is why opensauce wurks
2017-09-10T04:34:49 < Laurenceb__>  ... sort of
2017-09-10T04:35:35 < Laurenceb__> thing is the DFU spec says its _has_to be BCD
2017-09-10T04:35:49 < Laurenceb__> yo dawg we hurd u liek to break the spec
2017-09-10T04:50:20 < dongs> sup dongs
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2017-09-10T07:57:22 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/uLR8NSW.png what can i use for this driver/receiver pair
2017-09-10T07:57:43 < dongs> its ac coupled so like pretty much any differential driver/receiver combo?
2017-09-10T07:57:47 < dongs> or do I need soem special shit
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2017-09-10T08:38:46 < emeb_mac> interesting ckt
2017-09-10T08:43:24 < emeb_mac> that double 50-ohm termination to Vbias at each end suggests a specific driver topology
2017-09-10T08:43:43 < emeb_mac> might not be able to use just any old differential driver.
2017-09-10T08:43:52 < dongs> what would it be then?
2017-09-10T08:43:54 < dongs> define 'specific'
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2017-09-10T08:48:10 < emeb_mac> possibly something open collector or open drain
2017-09-10T08:48:21 < emeb_mac> as opposed to full pu/pd
2017-09-10T08:48:28 < dongs> oh
2017-09-10T08:48:34 < dongs> but isnt ac coupling solving that
2017-09-10T08:48:37 < dongs> that C_AUX thing is a cap
2017-09-10T08:48:51 < dongs> for some reatarded reason its not drawn as a cap
2017-09-10T08:48:52 < emeb_mac> ya I see that
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2017-09-10T08:49:16 < dongs> oh, right, that crap is before the cap
2017-09-10T08:49:18 < emeb_mac> but that doesn't really affect how the driver & termination resistors interact
2017-09-10T08:49:26 < dongs> right, just noticed that
2017-09-10T08:50:22 < emeb_mac> those 10k-100k & 1M resistors between the caps just set a bias level
2017-09-10T08:50:41 < dongs> right
2017-09-10T08:50:52 < emeb_mac> but compared to the 50ohm term they don't do much except keep the voltage between the caps known
2017-09-10T08:51:27 < emeb_mac> my guess is you *could* use any old differential transceiver
2017-09-10T08:51:37 < dongs> http://m.eet.com/media/1100696/IBIS_Fig16.jpg
2017-09-10T08:51:37 < emeb_mac> but some might work better than others
2017-09-10T08:51:58 < dongs> that seems to be ~same thing, isnt it?
2017-09-10T08:52:12 < dongs> https://e2e.ti.com/resized-image/__size/1230x0/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-03-25/0804.Fig2.png
2017-09-10T08:52:16 < dongs> hmm
2017-09-10T08:52:17 < emeb_mac> yeah, LVDS is what I thought when I saw that
2017-09-10T08:52:19 < dongs> same shit for lvpecl
2017-09-10T08:52:27 < dongs> (which is i think pretty similar crap anyway
2017-09-10T08:52:37 < emeb_mac> but most LVDS isn't pulled to a bias - they just put 100ohm across the RX side
2017-09-10T08:52:39 < dongs> hmm I should see what pin type the implement this with on a fpga
2017-09-10T08:52:55 < dongs> that would be the answer what driver to use
2017-09-10T08:53:00 < emeb_mac> ah - that's a ckt from some sort of FPGA?
2017-09-10T08:53:09 < dongs> no, thats from spec
2017-09-10T08:53:18 < dongs>  / standard
2017-09-10T08:53:22 < emeb_mac> there are so many different driver specs that FPGAs can do
2017-09-10T09:03:40 < dongs> what is "BLVDS"
2017-09-10T09:04:00 < dongs> hmm 'buslvds' shit from altera
2017-09-10T09:04:37 < dongs> thats what they're using to implement it
2017-09-10T09:05:27 < emeb_mac> so you should be able to just use any old LVDS stuffs
2017-09-10T09:06:05 < dongs> blvds looks like just a bunch of rx/tx modules connected to a common +/- line
2017-09-10T09:07:23 < emeb_mac> multi-drop?
2017-09-10T09:07:33 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-10T09:07:35 < dongs> i would link to the fucing pic
2017-09-10T09:07:42 < dongs> but intel/altera gay site doesnt do right click->image
2017-09-10T09:07:50 < emeb_mac> saw it in some TI appnotes
2017-09-10T09:08:10 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/JDF5MsC.png
2017-09-10T09:08:19 < dongs> tho I donno why you'd need more htan 1 for this schematic
2017-09-10T09:08:34 < dongs> maybe they wanna implement sevral channels of this shit on one fpga
2017-09-10T09:08:44 < dongs> hm but then it would need separate outptus too
2017-09-10T09:08:48 < dongs> no idea why then
2017-09-10T09:09:56 < emeb_mac> can't guess
2017-09-10T09:10:28 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/product/sn65lvds179 so this should probly wokr
2017-09-10T09:10:55 < dongs> the rate is only 1mbps on this shit anyway
2017-09-10T09:17:31 < emeb_mac> looks like a good start
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2017-09-10T10:04:07 < ohsix> zyp / jpa-: can the gerber viewers invert outlines and stuff, or interpret the cut commandshit so i can see how a stackup works with a particular vendor w/o doing the layering for just one of them from the start
2017-09-10T10:04:39 < ohsix> talked to pal that taught the eagle class and he says he's done slots and boards with weird shapes but wasn't sure what he did for a particular vendor
2017-09-10T10:05:14 < ohsix> i should have made my own just as tests before i took work doing it huhu
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2017-09-10T10:32:50 < ohsix> if you have an outline that cuts shit apart, how do you say what pieces are garbage
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2017-09-10T11:11:32 < dongs> wehre the fuck is stvn
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2017-09-10T12:46:40 < stvn> http://i.imgur.com/1Dl1I9H.jpg
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2017-09-10T13:03:59 < jpa-> ohsix: generally there will be a person in between in most board houses, and automatic rules that try to do the right thing no matter how you draw it
2017-09-10T13:16:21 < Steffanx> welcome stvn
2017-09-10T13:16:36 < Steffanx> people thing youre autism is getting worse, is that true/
2017-09-10T13:16:46 < Steffanx> *think
2017-09-10T13:16:52 < stvn> yeah i've been infected with code red autism mate
2017-09-10T13:19:00 < stvn> taking a serious consideration for installing a gnu/linux operating system
2017-09-10T13:20:05 < Thorn> val foo = this.foo ?: return // kotlin is superior
2017-09-10T13:20:36 < Steffanx> Code red? => keil ?
2017-09-10T13:23:13 < dongs> 17:11 < dongs> wehre the fuck is stvn
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2017-09-10T13:23:16 < dongs> i fucking hate this shit
2017-09-10T13:25:27 < stvn> who the fuck is crt mate
2017-09-10T13:25:47 < Steffanx> Secretly stvn does not exist and your alter ego
2017-09-10T13:25:59 < Steffanx> i should check once, by calling the dj hotline.
2017-09-10T13:26:02 < stvn> if it aint in the logs it never happened
2017-09-10T13:26:05 < Steffanx> and ask for mr stvn
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2017-09-10T13:26:22 < stvn> they've replaced me with a chinaman
2017-09-10T13:26:57 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCo1qrtpVSA
2017-09-10T13:27:25 < Steffanx> pro resistor bender i see
2017-09-10T13:27:26 < dongs> wow, jap jewray for guardians of the galaxy douche is out.
2017-09-10T13:27:27 < dongs> time to rent
2017-09-10T13:27:41 < dongs> wonder how unfunny the dub will be
2017-09-10T13:27:46 < stvn> m205 fuse removal requires a butter knife
2017-09-10T13:28:40 < Steffanx> How do you break a fuse like that?
2017-09-10T13:28:43 < Steffanx> the glass
2017-09-10T13:28:46 < dongs> it explodes
2017-09-10T13:28:56 < Steffanx> never seen that happen
2017-09-10T13:28:58 < dongs> generally leaving 2 parts separated
2017-09-10T13:29:00 < dongs> really? i have
2017-09-10T13:29:41 < Steffanx> i bet stvn has too
2017-09-10T13:29:42 < stvn> yeah half of them i see do that
2017-09-10T13:29:56 < Steffanx> but that's what DJs do, they break even the unbreakable
2017-09-10T13:33:43 < stvn> "this aussie mum helps his son become a girl. now he has changed his mind. is it all too late?
2017-09-10T13:33:47 < stvn> ^60 minutes
2017-09-10T13:36:46 < Steffanx> Hello Welcome.
2017-09-10T13:37:04 < stvn> the only reasonable course of action is to blame this whole thing on anime
2017-09-10T13:38:30 < Steffanx> i bet you are still a huge pokémon fan
2017-09-10T13:39:34 < stvn> rofling irl
2017-09-10T13:39:41 < stvn> some of the things you say
2017-09-10T13:41:27 < Steffanx> i know you stvn. there is the ##stm32-stvn and then there is the outside ##stm32-stvn
2017-09-10T13:42:06 < stvn> hmmm pokemon though....
2017-09-10T13:42:14 < Steffanx> DB-z then?
2017-09-10T13:43:47 < stvn> no
2017-09-10T13:44:22 < stvn> i thought the only real anime was the ones where they dressed like school girls and 98.7% of the camera angles were looking right up their skirt
2017-09-10T13:45:00 < Steffanx> and shin chan ofcourse
2017-09-10T13:45:14 < stvn> at least this is what i imagine all those 4ch users watch and discuss
2017-09-10T13:45:50 < stvn> i could call in the expert on these matters, dr laurence.
2017-09-10T13:49:14 < Steffanx> Anyone ever tried this (new) wifi thingy from TI? The cc3100?  I wonder if its any better than the cc3000 which was a disaster
2017-09-10T14:02:34 < Steffanx> hows diptrace doing stvn?
2017-09-10T14:04:22 < stvn> using the dirtiest unit instead
2017-09-10T14:06:19 < stvn> (old altium dxp)
2017-09-10T14:08:05 < Steffanx> wut?
2017-09-10T14:10:19 < stvn> an old altium i had floating around
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2017-09-10T14:14:48 < stvn> might even consider trying cancer studio
2017-09-10T14:17:08 < dongs> stvn, what do i look for on a behringer mixer that buzzes
2017-09-10T14:17:27 < dongs> is it power supply or something in the box
2017-09-10T14:17:42 < Steffanx> what is that supposed to be stvn? Circuit studio?
2017-09-10T14:18:03 < stvn> dongs, i'd probably start by trying to isolate the fault
2017-09-10T14:18:31 < dongs> it was on 24/7 for several years at round 40C ambient
2017-09-10T14:18:44 < BrainDamage> start scoping the power rails
2017-09-10T14:18:54 < stvn> +since it is behringer just bin it
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2017-09-10T14:21:41 < dongs> k powering ups cope
2017-09-10T14:22:12 < dongs> weird fucking power supplyt
2017-09-10T14:22:14 < dongs> 2x 18.5V
2017-09-10T14:22:18 < dongs> AC
2017-09-10T14:22:19 < dongs> ..
2017-09-10T14:23:03 < BrainDamage> so they just slapped a transformer to a box because it couldn't fit the assembly
2017-09-10T14:24:36 < dongs>  doesnt evne look sinewave
2017-09-10T14:24:41 < dongs> its squareish
2017-09-10T14:25:28 < BrainDamage> is it at ac frequency?
2017-09-10T14:25:32 < dongs> yeah 60hz
2017-09-10T14:25:39 < dongs> i wonder if there's a dead mouse in here
2017-09-10T14:26:20 < dongs> k its only left mic in channel
2017-09-10T14:26:59 < BrainDamage> as in the noise source is in a specific channel?
2017-09-10T14:27:42 < dongs> i think so
2017-09-10T14:27:45 < dongs> just looking at output leds
2017-09-10T14:27:53 < dongs> when ch1 is high, theres crap
2017-09-10T14:28:07 < dongs> but same settings on ch2 = OK
2017-09-10T14:29:54 < BrainDamage> ok, you'll have to open the shit and trace the signal path, go backwards from the output, and bear in mind that before each amplifier the intensity is going to drop, at some point it's going to disappear, that'll be the guilty shit
2017-09-10T14:30:37 < BrainDamage> it'll likely be some power supply filter for an amplifier, or the amplifier itself that's gone to shit
2017-09-10T14:32:15 < BrainDamage> to state the obvious, start from the output of the channel, not the global output
2017-09-10T14:32:36 < dongs> ohj fuckin wat
2017-09-10T14:32:51 < stvn> fun isn't it
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2017-09-10T14:34:06 < BrainDamage> if there's replacement boards sold, buy one and replace it, it'll save your time
2017-09-10T14:34:23 < stvn> actually struggling to remember the last time i had a 'noisy' anything
2017-09-10T14:36:13 < dongs> http://www.filedropper.com/myrecording21
2017-09-10T14:36:16 < dongs> this is what the shit sounds liek
2017-09-10T14:36:20 < dongs> and i was wrong, both mic in channels do this
2017-09-10T14:36:22 < dongs> but none of line in
2017-09-10T14:36:33 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kepAQR82fHM
2017-09-10T14:36:44 < BrainDamage> if it's all inputs then it's likely a supply problem
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2017-09-10T14:36:53 < dongs> no, just mics
2017-09-10T14:37:03 < dongs> it almost sounds like its picking up radio
2017-09-10T14:37:05 < BrainDamage> just mics can be because mics have a preamplifier
2017-09-10T14:37:06 < dongs> like AM radio or someshit
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2017-09-10T14:37:14 < BrainDamage> while line in gets fed straight in
2017-09-10T14:37:33 < BrainDamage> so either the preamp, or more likely, the supply for the preamp is broken
2017-09-10T14:37:59 < BrainDamage> it's unlikely that 2 sep channels of a preamp, even if in the same chip, break at the same time
2017-09-10T14:38:13 < BrainDamage> so what's most likely is that the supply for the mic preamp is hosed
2017-09-10T14:38:17 < Laurenceb__> >having my legs blown off in a terrorist bomb attack help lower my shoe shopping bill
2017-09-10T14:38:24 < Laurenceb__> >how Muslims have help boast the UK's fertilizers sales
2017-09-10T14:38:32 < Laurenceb__> >Justin Trudeau publicly commits suicide in a surprise last minute Canadian victory
2017-09-10T14:38:38 < stvn> perfect timing there laurence
2017-09-10T14:39:45 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/9dvUSb8.jpg is this normal behringer
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2017-09-10T14:40:05 < BrainDamage> holy shit
2017-09-10T14:40:12 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-10T14:40:35 < Laurenceb__> I don't see anything wrong
2017-09-10T14:40:36 < stvn> are you getting some megohms across that nigger semen?
2017-09-10T14:40:54 < dongs> i hope so
2017-09-10T14:40:58 < dongs> how the fuck do i get to top side of pcb
2017-09-10T14:40:59 < zyp> I remember my dad were poking inside some behringer thing one time I were visiting, didn't exactly look like quality design
2017-09-10T14:41:01 < Laurenceb__> isnt that just to stop leakage currents?
2017-09-10T14:41:06 < dongs> do i have to take ALL the damn sknobs out??
2017-09-10T14:41:41 < stvn> hahaha yep
2017-09-10T14:41:43 < stvn> usually
2017-09-10T14:42:08 < dongs> ok nice, andturning on phantom gives a nice 60hz buzz
2017-09-10T14:42:13 < dongs> so i think all mic related shit is toast
2017-09-10T14:42:17 < Laurenceb__> attn stvn: https://imgur.com/BhoOMxx
2017-09-10T14:42:24 < zyp> love those ghettoed on PTH resistors on SMT pads
2017-09-10T14:42:33 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-10T14:42:39 < dongs> i bet thats the topsecret opamp tuning
2017-09-10T14:42:48 < dongs> gotta epoxy it up to prevent stealingz
2017-09-10T14:43:21 < zyp> the ground pour looks utterly useless
2017-09-10T14:43:30 < Laurenceb__> oh I didn't spot that
2017-09-10T14:43:31 < Laurenceb__> lol
2017-09-10T14:43:38 < dongs> prety sure behringer are not EE pros
2017-09-10T14:43:44 < Laurenceb__> thought the epoxy was to prevent leakage currents
2017-09-10T14:44:29 < stvn> behringer were cloner pros
2017-09-10T14:44:35 < Laurenceb__> but audio shit is hardly drift chamber tier
2017-09-10T14:44:39 < dongs> 30 knobs later
2017-09-10T14:44:48 < dongs> i sure hope i dont have t o take the rings off the 1/4 connectors
2017-09-10T14:44:50 < stvn> when they got busted cloning a midas desk they had so many fucking shekels, they just bought midas instead of getting owned in court
2017-09-10T14:45:15 < Steffanx> lol
2017-09-10T14:46:19 < dongs> .. no way
2017-09-10T14:46:24 < dongs> i do have to take them all out
2017-09-10T14:46:25 < dongs> WTF
2017-09-10T14:46:28 < stvn> yes
2017-09-10T14:46:53 < BrainDamage> in before dongs start talking like stvn
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2017-09-10T14:47:17 < stvn> have a look at this http://static.weloveshopping.com/shop/music-boulevard/extra/9690070.jpg
2017-09-10T14:47:38 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb: i fucking diyed a /jfet/ preamp with few fA leak for a ion chamber on a perfboard, you just have to scrub shit with alcohol and a brush, no goop necessary
2017-09-10T14:48:05 < Laurenceb__> yeah
2017-09-10T14:48:40 < stvn> i have to take things like that apart on a daily basis
2017-09-10T14:48:41 < Laurenceb__> why would someone clone an opamp amplifier
2017-09-10T14:48:47 < Laurenceb__> like just design it in spice
2017-09-10T14:48:47 < stvn> may explain a bit about my pumping
2017-09-10T14:49:04 < stvn> cloners cannot design
2017-09-10T14:49:12 < stvn> they can only clone
2017-09-10T14:50:19 < stvn> there is a lot of art and furious masturbation in the design of mic preamps
2017-09-10T14:50:34 < dongs> huh
2017-09-10T14:50:36 < dongs> theres fucking ntiohign on top
2017-09-10T14:50:38 < dongs> ecept knobs
2017-09-10T14:50:55 < dongs> and like 4 throughole transistors
2017-09-10T14:51:09 < dongs> and LM339N in DIP
2017-09-10T14:51:15 < dongs> is that a fucking led bar graph driver
2017-09-10T14:51:27 < stvn> comparator yea?
2017-09-10T14:51:32 < BrainDamage> it's a comparator
2017-09-10T14:51:40 < BrainDamage> you can use it as a bar graph driver
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2017-09-10T14:51:46 < Laurenceb__> haha I used that in a school project
2017-09-10T14:51:52 < Laurenceb__> funtimes
2017-09-10T14:51:59 < dongs> BrainDamage: thats what thyre'd doing
2017-09-10T14:52:03 < dongs> 4 leds, its connected to them
2017-09-10T14:52:07 < dongs> *2 for l/r
2017-09-10T14:52:07 < stvn> which behringer mixer is this
2017-09-10T14:52:10 < dongs> lolz.
2017-09-10T14:52:22 < dongs> UB1002 or whatever, it says on PCB pic
2017-09-10T14:52:23 < Laurenceb__> lm339 based buried cable sensor
2017-09-10T14:52:26 < dongs> its old + small shit
2017-09-10T14:52:48 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb: coincidentally, I've done the same, mine was a lightning storm detector
2017-09-10T14:52:49 < dongs> o hwhat
2017-09-10T14:52:54 < dongs> the 2 parts that were getting hot on the board
2017-09-10T14:52:58 < dongs> in a heatsink
2017-09-10T14:53:01 < dongs> are just LM7915s
2017-09-10T14:53:21 < stvn> this is fantastic
2017-09-10T14:53:26 < dongs> their 16V AC input part is just some diodes and a 7915
2017-09-10T14:53:33 < dongs> and a couple caps
2017-09-10T14:53:33 < stvn> http://media.musiciansfriend.com/is/image/MMGS7/Eurorack-UB1002-Mixer/631237000000000-00-500x500.jpg
2017-09-10T14:53:36 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-10T14:53:57 < stvn> if this came into my shop i'd throw it out the front door into an oncoming truck
2017-09-10T14:54:34 < dongs> hmmm
2017-09-10T14:54:46 < dongs> those big caps at input have some black goop under them
2017-09-10T14:54:55 < dongs> dono if thats shit that came out of the cap or intentional
2017-09-10T14:55:15 < BrainDamage> electrolythe leak tends to be white, not black
2017-09-10T14:55:37 < dongs> OK
2017-09-10T14:55:42 < dongs> gonna start randomly poking scope into stuff then
2017-09-10T14:57:41 < stvn> that black goop is usually ok, the chinese put it there so it survives the boat trip
2017-09-10T14:59:03 < dongs> thres a 76V in there
2017-09-10T14:59:04 < dongs> somewhre
2017-09-10T15:00:25 < dongs> why the shit would tehy use such a gay power supply
2017-09-10T15:00:56 < BrainDamage> phantom power is 48V, no idea what 76V is for
2017-09-10T15:01:34 < stvn> yeah i don't even
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2017-09-10T15:04:20 < dongs> the routing on this shit looks fucking gross
2017-09-10T15:04:21 < dongs> waht the fuck
2017-09-10T15:04:26 < dongs> this had to be done in eagle or something
2017-09-10T15:04:37 < dongs> right angled shit everywhere
2017-09-10T15:07:12 < stvn> yah i saw a jbl preamp board like that
2017-09-10T15:08:06 < stvn> worst board i'd ever seen btw
2017-09-10T15:08:09 < dongs> fuck i dont evne know wehre to start poking
2017-09-10T15:08:54 < BrainDamage> are the power rails clean?
2017-09-10T15:09:15 < dongs> i dont even know wehre they are
2017-09-10T15:09:23 < dongs> theres no fucking obvious "power" line on this board
2017-09-10T15:09:26 < BrainDamage> start from the supply connector
2017-09-10T15:09:27 < dongs> its just a bunch of traces and jumpers
2017-09-10T15:10:07 < BrainDamage> you said there's 79xx junk, that's where the psu is
2017-09-10T15:10:17 < BrainDamage> try to scope the 78 and 79 junk
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2017-09-10T15:10:46 < stvn> pin 4 and pin 8 are the power pins on yer 8 pin op amps
2017-09-10T15:10:48 < dongs> ioh, one of htem is doing -15
2017-09-10T15:10:59 < BrainDamage> yup, that's 79
2017-09-10T15:11:05 < BrainDamage> the 78 is positive rail
2017-09-10T15:11:54 < BrainDamage> if the psu outputs are clean, move to the opamps as steven said
2017-09-10T15:12:02 < dongs> those acutally looks ok
2017-09-10T15:12:08 < dongs> pretty clean
2017-09-10T15:13:06 < dongs> so pin4 is -15, pin8 is +15
2017-09-10T15:13:09 < dongs> is that how this shit works?
2017-09-10T15:13:18 < BrainDamage> yup
2017-09-10T15:13:39 < BrainDamage> oh, i might have an idea
2017-09-10T15:13:44 < BrainDamage> since you said it's the mic only
2017-09-10T15:14:00 < BrainDamage> it could be the phantom supply that's gone to shit, and it injects noise
2017-09-10T15:14:00 < dongs> opamp power supplies look same as the shit from 7915s
2017-09-10T15:14:07 < dongs> yeah but i turned that off
2017-09-10T15:14:13 < BrainDamage> k
2017-09-10T15:14:14 < dongs> when i turn that on, it buzzes for a few secs then stabilizes
2017-09-10T15:14:20 < dongs> 48V output is actually pretty clean
2017-09-10T15:14:23 < dongs> onmce the buzzing goes away
2017-09-10T15:16:07 < BrainDamage> to find the mic preamp, either follow the traces from the gain pot, or the traces from the xlr mic connector, but the pot is going to be easier, because between the xlr and the amp there's going to be filters, phantom, etc
2017-09-10T15:16:59 < BrainDamage> once you find the preamp, try to scope the output(s) and see if you can find noise
2017-09-10T15:17:19 < Laurenceb__> see this is why ppl use usb audio shit
2017-09-10T15:17:31 < Laurenceb__> mems mic -> stm32 -> usb
2017-09-10T15:18:06 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/Bk9p7qA.png this is what final outptu looks like
2017-09-10T15:18:10 < BrainDamage> this is why people use digital, not just usb
2017-09-10T15:18:26 < Steffanx> for audio indeed, not for accelero data Laurenceb__ :P
2017-09-10T15:18:34 < Steffanx> or whatever you do
2017-09-10T15:20:18 < Steffanx> !wz miami
2017-09-10T15:20:19 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Rain. Temp is 24.9°C. East wind: 75.6 kph. Humidity: 95%.
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2017-09-10T15:25:29 < Laurenceb__> http://www.omniinstruments.co.uk/data-logger-temperature-humidity-acceleration-pressure/tri-axial-shock-vibration-data-loggers.html
2017-09-10T15:25:34 < Laurenceb__> what is this shit
2017-09-10T15:26:06 < Laurenceb__> guess it can do standalone logging tho
2017-09-10T15:26:10 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/v1gTZX4.jpg nothing weird getting hot on board
2017-09-10T15:26:11 < dongs> what the fuck
2017-09-10T15:26:23 < dongs> any pin i scope i get either 0V or some variation of 15/-15v
2017-09-10T15:26:57 < dongs> stuff on bottom is teh mics
2017-09-10T15:27:19 < Laurenceb__> >that huge pcb
2017-09-10T15:27:30 < Laurenceb__> >just a handful of opamp circuits
2017-09-10T15:27:43 < dongs> oh!
2017-09-10T15:28:11 < dongs> bingo
2017-09-10T15:28:13 < dongs> we have AM radio
2017-09-10T15:28:50 < stvn> are they talking in sputnik?
2017-09-10T15:29:13 < Laurenceb__> lul the AM demod phenomenon
2017-09-10T15:29:27 < dongs> ok it is just second mic channel
2017-09-10T15:29:32 < dongs> 1st one is clean in same place
2017-09-10T15:31:31 < dongs> 1st opamp looking thing down from xlr input already has that am radio noise on it
2017-09-10T15:32:33 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-pcs-Transistor-A1084-ECB-PNP-TO92-NEW-Freeshipping-/140465102633 what re these
2017-09-10T15:33:27 < stvn> transistors
2017-09-10T15:33:35 < stvn> 2sa1084 im guessing
2017-09-10T15:34:58 < Laurenceb__> oh noes https://info.aiaa.org/tac/PEG/NFPTC/Shared%20Documents/abstract_Mcdonald.pdf
2017-09-10T15:35:04 < Laurenceb__> it continues...
2017-09-10T15:35:07 < dongs> isit really normal for these 7815 shits to br running at 70C
2017-09-10T15:35:08 < dongs> wtf
2017-09-10T15:35:27 < BrainDamage> yes
2017-09-10T15:35:39 < stvn> that is pro engineering
2017-09-10T15:35:53 < Laurenceb__> but I thought this shit was just an amplifier?
2017-09-10T15:36:00 < BrainDamage> mixer
2017-09-10T15:36:16 < Laurenceb__> even stranger
2017-09-10T15:36:37 < stvn> the latest incident
2017-09-10T15:36:52 < BrainDamage> not that strange when you account all the opamps, the display and the random junk they power from that single 78
2017-09-10T15:36:57 < stvn> apparently pioneer's new mixer is failing in the field
2017-09-10T15:37:02 < stvn> overheating rofl
2017-09-10T15:37:22 < BrainDamage> they problably draw 0.2-0.3A overall, so you get a good half watt on it
2017-09-10T15:37:31 < Laurenceb__> I dont understand any of this
2017-09-10T15:37:32 < stvn> doesn't take a lot
2017-09-10T15:37:43 < Laurenceb__> usb audio class has it all covered
2017-09-10T15:37:50 < Laurenceb__> or if you really want, midi
2017-09-10T15:37:57 < BrainDamage> do you know what a mixer is?
2017-09-10T15:38:02 < stvn> :3
2017-09-10T15:38:07 < Laurenceb__> a HID device
2017-09-10T15:38:20 < BrainDamage> no
2017-09-10T15:38:21 < BrainDamage>  http://media.musiciansfriend.com/is/image/MMGS7/Eurorack-UB1002-Mixer/631237000000000-00-500x500.jpg
2017-09-10T15:38:29 < BrainDamage> this is an audio mixer
2017-09-10T15:38:30 < Laurenceb__> that talks to audio shit on ur pc
2017-09-10T15:38:34 < Fleck> :D
2017-09-10T15:38:52 < Laurenceb__> looks like to 1920s
2017-09-10T15:39:06 < stvn> stick yer usb in this http://www.digico.biz/sd12/images/SD12-Perspective-Front-2.jpg
2017-09-10T15:40:45 < BrainDamage> the digital mixers are an exception, almost the totality of mixers are all analol
2017-09-10T15:40:55 < BrainDamage> hence why noise
2017-09-10T15:41:40 < dongs> ok so
2017-09-10T15:41:53 < dongs> one leg of cap has low amplitude of the crap noise im getting
2017-09-10T15:42:02 < dongs> thats the first time i see it going down all the way from input XLR
2017-09-10T15:42:04 < dongs> and touching every pin
2017-09-10T15:42:12 < dongs> 47uF 25V alu cap
2017-09-10T15:42:22 < dongs> is that even possible
2017-09-10T15:42:40 < BrainDamage> yes, the caps are actually there to filter this kind of shit
2017-09-10T15:42:47 < BrainDamage> by shorting it ground
2017-09-10T15:44:18 < Laurenceb__> http://www.djbinstruments.com/images/A16x_Series_update_april_2017.pdf
2017-09-10T15:44:23 < Laurenceb__> thats some accel
2017-09-10T15:45:45 < dongs> ok
2017-09-10T15:45:46 < dongs> so
2017-09-10T15:45:49 < dongs> the other channel has same cap
2017-09-10T15:45:55 < dongs> with clean -15v ON IT
2017-09-10T15:46:03 < dongs> this channel however has positive crap w/AM noise
2017-09-10T15:46:26 < Steffanx> jpa-, i was curious out your eink experience. Do you have any clue what the mode1/2 pins are supposed to do? Or ever played around with them not being some fixed value?
2017-09-10T15:46:45 < Steffanx> "A one-pulse, continuous two-pulse, jumping two-pulse, or no-pulse pattern" doesnt say me much
2017-09-10T15:46:51 < Steffanx> *tell
2017-09-10T15:48:45 < dongs> could dead opamp do this
2017-09-10T15:49:27 < stvn> there are a million faults an opamp can develop
2017-09-10T15:49:54 < dongs> is being an AM receiver on its negative power rail one of themn
2017-09-10T15:50:18 < stvn> could be
2017-09-10T15:50:58 < stvn> if i was at all suspicious i'd pull it and chuck another one in its place
2017-09-10T15:51:21 < stvn> and most likely realise i've changed the wrong part and move onto my next autistic investigation
2017-09-10T15:53:31 < Laurenceb__> oh shit https://www.mmf.de/human_vibration.htm
2017-09-10T15:53:40 < Laurenceb__> I'm out oif a jurb dude
2017-09-10T15:55:10 < stvn> i neednt ask wtf you're doing
2017-09-10T15:55:21 < Laurenceb__> measuring vibration of ppls
2017-09-10T15:55:23 < Laurenceb__> oh shit
2017-09-10T15:55:24 < Laurenceb__> https://www.mmf.de/instrumentation.htm#teds
2017-09-10T15:55:42 < Laurenceb__> IEE1451 means my usb system is btfo
2017-09-10T15:56:42 < stvn> dongs, the proper course of action (in your case) http://i.imgur.com/Vrlm1LZ.jpg
2017-09-10T16:00:36 < Laurenceb__> lel, reminds me of that tarduino board
2017-09-10T16:01:08 < Steffanx> Damnit stvn. How often DJs do that?
2017-09-10T16:01:13 < stvn> i'm actually going to attempt this tomorrow
2017-09-10T16:02:10 < stvn> http://www.pioneer-latin.com/downloads/djm-800_rear_hi.jpg
2017-09-10T16:02:27 < stvn> you see that IEC connector there isn't really needed as its a double insulated device
2017-09-10T16:02:36 < stvn> so maybe they used that to stop the dumb
2017-09-10T16:03:48 < stvn> or they'd just no IEC at all http://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/pioneer-djm-600-152879.jpg
2017-09-10T16:04:59 < BrainDamage> i have done a similar thing when i was 4
2017-09-10T16:05:37 < BrainDamage> except i attached loose wires to a mic jack, then plugged those into a pc iec /output/ psu
2017-09-10T16:05:49 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/rFIQFdm.png
2017-09-10T16:05:50 < dongs> ok so wat do
2017-09-10T16:05:55 < dongs> what the shit is making this
2017-09-10T16:06:11 < BrainDamage> ok, so the am noise is present, where exactly
2017-09-10T16:07:14 < dongs> well this out is pin1 of opamp
2017-09-10T16:07:18 < dongs> itsl oudest t here
2017-09-10T16:07:47 < dongs> its on pin2 wiht lesser amplitude
2017-09-10T16:08:08 < dongs> power supply to opamp is squeaky clean
2017-09-10T16:08:09 < BrainDamage> and the opamp code is?
2017-09-10T16:08:19 < dongs> these re al lsame uh
2017-09-10T16:08:21 < dongs> JRC 4580?
2017-09-10T16:08:27 < dongs> or 2022U
2017-09-10T16:08:52 < dongs> http://www.njr.com/semicon/PDF/NJM4580_E.pdf
2017-09-10T16:08:54 < dongs> that looks right i guess
2017-09-10T16:08:55 < BrainDamage> k, so pin 1 is indeed out
2017-09-10T16:09:04 < stvn> yah the 4580 is common as they come
2017-09-10T16:09:16 < BrainDamage> while pin 2 is the inverting in
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2017-09-10T16:09:31 < BrainDamage> so the amp is not guilty, the signal arrives before that amp
2017-09-10T16:09:32 < dongs> ch7 is celan
2017-09-10T16:09:39 < dongs> so this crap is actally only on one channel
2017-09-10T16:09:44 < dongs> like L or R or wahtever
2017-09-10T16:10:04 < stvn> so its dirty before the amp, whats before it
2017-09-10T16:10:09 < BrainDamage> microphone inputs are typically mono
2017-09-10T16:10:17 < stvn> maybe some discrete bjt crap?
2017-09-10T16:10:24 < dongs> oh, right. why is it dual then
2017-09-10T16:10:28 < dongs> one channel disabled?
2017-09-10T16:10:43 < BrainDamage> probably
2017-09-10T16:11:06 < stvn> depending on the design there could be a handful of preamp stages
2017-09-10T16:11:17 < BrainDamage> yes, they can either chain or just use one
2017-09-10T16:11:42 < dongs> theres a L/M/H band equalizer and changing that changes the noise output
2017-09-10T16:11:55 < BrainDamage> that's normal, but that's /after/ the amp
2017-09-10T16:11:58 < dongs> ok
2017-09-10T16:12:21 < BrainDamage> before the amp there should be a filter, and the phantom injector
2017-09-10T16:12:29 < BrainDamage> then the xlr
2017-09-10T16:12:40 < BrainDamage> there might be another amp before
2017-09-10T16:13:35 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/nIdGJj9.jpg
2017-09-10T16:13:37 < dongs> thats all there is
2017-09-10T16:13:45 < dongs> the 2nd (lower) channel is the problem
2017-09-10T16:14:06 < dongs> there's that knob with the knob still on it
2017-09-10T16:14:10 < dongs> thats the mic preamp
2017-09-10T16:14:15 < dongs> changing that has NO effect on noise
2017-09-10T16:14:24 < dongs> er mic gain or whatever
2017-09-10T16:14:37 < BrainDamage> huh
2017-09-10T16:15:00 < BrainDamage> so the opamp you have is a fixed gain amp
2017-09-10T16:15:21 < BrainDamage> and it's after the variable gain preamp
2017-09-10T16:15:42 < dongs> theres 2 opamps on teh back of those channels
2017-09-10T16:15:55 < dongs> one near the main level and one in the midle
2017-09-10T16:16:23 < dongs> the real bad noise one is the one near channel level
2017-09-10T16:17:35 < BrainDamage> can you scope the pot pins, do you see the noise there?
2017-09-10T16:17:50 < BrainDamage> the mic gain pot
2017-09-10T16:17:56 < stvn> shame none of my behringer service agents are awake
2017-09-10T16:18:06 < stvn> i'd get a schematic
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2017-09-10T16:18:50 < dongs> yeah they do
2017-09-10T16:18:59 < dongs> oh mic gain pot?
2017-09-10T16:19:00 < dongs> lemme see
2017-09-10T16:19:26 < dongs> no its clean
2017-09-10T16:19:42 < BrainDamage> put the gain at half pos btw
2017-09-10T16:19:51 < BrainDamage> or at least, not all the way to one side
2017-09-10T16:20:17 < BrainDamage> so the shit is between the variable gain amp and the fixed one
2017-09-10T16:20:33 < dongs> yeah clean
2017-09-10T16:20:34 < dongs> nothing
2017-09-10T16:21:37 < BrainDamage> since the psu is clean, I'd randomly replace the caps and transistors between those, and that should fix it
2017-09-10T16:21:51 < dongs> can caps make that noise>
2017-09-10T16:22:23 < BrainDamage> no, that noise is essentially EM noise coupling to the board, the caps kill the signal if it couples
2017-09-10T16:22:36 < BrainDamage> if the cap goes bad, it stops the filter
2017-09-10T16:24:49 < Laurenceb__> too much scrollback
2017-09-10T16:25:06 < Laurenceb__> but maybe opamp is fine, but its feedback network has gone to shit
2017-09-10T16:25:17 < Laurenceb__> causing it to demod AM
2017-09-10T16:25:25 < BrainDamage> sorry if we're diluiting your shitposting with something barely EE related
2017-09-10T16:25:39 < Laurenceb__> lel
2017-09-10T16:26:24 < Laurenceb__> what I meant is *ain't nobody gunna read all that scrollback to see if this has already been discussed*
2017-09-10T16:27:36 < BrainDamage> the tldr: mic preamp gain doesn't change noise,  found opamp where out and inverting in pin have noise, invertin pin has noise with lower intensity
2017-09-10T16:27:51 < BrainDamage> and mic preamp gain doesn't have noise on it
2017-09-10T16:27:58 < BrainDamage> so the noise is between the 2
2017-09-10T16:28:32 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/qBTpJJR.jpg
2017-09-10T16:28:36 < dongs> ok so those are 2 identical cahnnels
2017-09-10T16:28:43 < dongs> but theres more heat on those ghetto dip resistors
2017-09-10T16:28:56 < dongs> on the channel thats glitching
2017-09-10T16:29:17 < BrainDamage> btw, how much did the thermal camera cost you?
2017-09-10T16:29:27 < dongs> 900 paypals i think
2017-09-10T16:30:13 < Laurenceb__> dat pcb
2017-09-10T16:30:17 < Laurenceb__> why so huge
2017-09-10T16:30:26 < BrainDamage> because it covers all the mixer tracks
2017-09-10T16:30:27 < dongs> theres a lowpass cutoff button
2017-09-10T16:30:29 < sync> because you gotta have space to fiddle the knobs
2017-09-10T16:30:30 < dongs> that looks liek it just adds some caps
2017-09-10T16:30:32 < dongs> into the line
2017-09-10T16:30:36 < dongs> does that make sense/
2017-09-10T16:30:39 < BrainDamage> yes
2017-09-10T16:30:41 < dongs> ok
2017-09-10T16:30:45 < dongs> hmm
2017-09-10T16:32:25 < BrainDamage> again, I'd suggest the lazy way, replace everything inbetween those 2, it'd be like, 10-15 components max, and it'll take less time to figure out what actually went to shit
2017-09-10T16:33:01 < sync> yeah, I'd just recap the shit out of it
2017-09-10T16:36:15 < Laurenceb__> this looks interesting
2017-09-10T16:36:17 < Laurenceb__> https://eesensors.com/media/wysiwyg/docs-pdfs/ESP16_Atest.pdf
2017-09-10T16:36:35 < Laurenceb__> We need something like USB, except for sensors
2017-09-10T16:36:35 < Laurenceb__> Solution: the IEEE 1451 Smart Transducer Protocol
2017-09-10T16:36:40 < Laurenceb__> ^stopped reading there
2017-09-10T16:37:17 < stvn> hmm
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2017-09-10T16:39:53 < dongs> getting this garbage off my desk. ill ahve eto make a list of all the fucking DIP parts to replace
2017-09-10T16:39:58 < dongs> i dont have any of this shit handy
2017-09-10T16:40:34 < BrainDamage> well, at least you isolated the fault to a reasonable portion
2017-09-10T16:40:55 < dongs> nothing looks physically broken/burned :(
2017-09-10T16:41:08 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/9dvUSb8.jpg
2017-09-10T16:41:11 < Laurenceb__> > 1451.6 – CAN Bus
2017-09-10T16:41:12 < englishman> this looks autorouted
2017-09-10T16:41:15 < Laurenceb__> so much fail
2017-09-10T16:41:30 < dongs> englishman: by eagle?
2017-09-10T16:41:35 < englishman> of couse
2017-09-10T16:41:50 < dongs> nah tehres same patterns
2017-09-10T16:41:52 < dongs> between channels
2017-09-10T16:41:58 < Laurenceb__> eagle autoroute is truly epic fail
2017-09-10T16:42:04 < jpa-> Steffanx: no, i don't have any real idea
2017-09-10T16:42:22 < jpa-> Steffanx: i thing they might have something to do with advanced waveforms or grayscale or something
2017-09-10T16:42:36 < englishman> lolll stvns pic
2017-09-10T16:42:47 < dongs> which one, the mini-iec?
2017-09-10T16:43:09 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/Vrlm1LZ.jpg
2017-09-10T16:43:14 < dongs> right
2017-09-10T16:43:41 < kakimir> sweet
2017-09-10T16:43:55 < kakimir> just shove it in
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2017-09-10T16:44:16 < englishman> those are called mini IEC?
2017-09-10T16:44:20 < englishman> and IEC is the bigger computer one?
2017-09-10T16:44:26 < kakimir> I bet not
2017-09-10T16:44:45 < kakimir> those are like ancient
2017-09-10T16:45:09 < BrainDamage> iec is the computer one
2017-09-10T16:45:15 < BrainDamage> the small ones are not iec
2017-09-10T16:45:43 < kakimir> those are in all old stereos and shiet
2017-09-10T16:45:50 < dongs> yeah not mini. no idea whats the name, tis def something standartd tho
2017-09-10T16:46:27 < dongs> amazon calls it "figure 8" connector
2017-09-10T16:46:52 < dongs> looks like C7
2017-09-10T16:47:17 < sync> yes
2017-09-10T16:47:34 < sync> iec 60320-c7 iirc
2017-09-10T16:47:41 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60320
2017-09-10T16:47:41 < dongs> y
2017-09-10T16:47:50 < kakimir> actual iec :/
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2017-09-10T16:48:41 < Laurenceb__> https://i.imgtc.com/i3iPjpM.jpg
2017-09-10T16:49:32 < BrainDamage> i have better shitposting  http://www.charlottestories.com/58000-people-joined-together-attempt-re-direct-hurricane-irma-using-fans/
2017-09-10T16:49:55 < dongs> ..
2017-09-10T16:50:08 < dongs> is that 4 real
2017-09-10T16:51:26 < BrainDamage> the news site doesn't seem satire, and the event exists, altough i don't have facebook so i can't check
2017-09-10T16:51:50 < BrainDamage> so likely real
2017-09-10T16:52:16 < dongs> event is visible without login
2017-09-10T16:52:20 < dongs> 61k "going"
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2017-09-10T16:52:28 < dongs> 46k "interested"
2017-09-10T16:52:31 < dongs> RIP USA
2017-09-10T16:52:48 < kakimir> it's a joke.. is it?
2017-09-10T16:52:51 < dongs> no
2017-09-10T16:52:58 < dongs> they appear to be completely serious
2017-09-10T16:53:55 < Steffanx> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=855672787928281&set=a.186037541558479.1073741826.100004567023311&type=3&theater completely serious it is -_-
2017-09-10T16:53:59 < Steffanx> even a scope :D
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2017-09-10T16:56:40 < Steffanx> ok, still thanks for the other info mr jpa-
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2017-09-10T16:58:54 < jpa-> Steffanx: will you be making a cool eink device?
2017-09-10T16:59:13 < Steffanx> nah, just playing around mostly. nothing too cool
2017-09-10T16:59:21 < Steffanx> with some 9.7" screen
2017-09-10T16:59:53 < Steffanx> I would like to do some grayscale stuff
2017-09-10T17:01:27 < Steffanx> How is your oven thermometer jpa-? Still using it?
2017-09-10T17:01:41 < dongs> AMD oven
2017-09-10T17:01:51 < jpa-> Steffanx: my mom is, yeah
2017-09-10T17:02:04 < Steffanx> ah cool
2017-09-10T17:02:13 < dongs> my desktop PSU blew up yesterday, had to buy a replacement. new one runs completely cold compared to old one
2017-09-10T17:02:20 < jpa-> though only the regular wired sensor.. the wireless one never worked very well, 433MHz is too low freq to fit out through the oven glass
2017-09-10T17:02:20 < dongs> despite both being 500W rated
2017-09-10T17:02:34 < Steffanx> super platinum?
2017-09-10T17:03:02 < dongs> gold, i live in a shithole, the nearest stoer 60km away only had some cooler donger V550 or someshit in gold
2017-09-10T17:03:11 < dongs> everything in stock was bronze
2017-09-10T17:03:12 < Laurenceb__> looks like HID is already designed to work with imu sensors http://www.usb.org/developers/hidpage/HUTRR39b.pdf
2017-09-10T17:03:30 < Laurenceb__> I fail badly
2017-09-10T17:03:42 < BrainDamage> is the oven glass metalized?
2017-09-10T17:03:42 < Steffanx> Damn, you get our? I just show online.
2017-09-10T17:03:50 < jpa-> BrainDamage: i don't think so
2017-09-10T17:03:52 < Steffanx> *shop
2017-09-10T17:04:06 < BrainDamage> you could try a coil antenna on the glass and another straight in front
2017-09-10T17:04:31 < jpa-> yeah, sure; even 433 MHz works if one positions things right
2017-09-10T17:04:45 < jpa-> but the point of wireless is usually that one doesn't need to have things at specific place
2017-09-10T17:08:42 < daey> the nucleo boards have a virtual serial port that pops up in linux as /dev/ttyACM0 in my case. i have a basic 'hello world' spamming program running on the board. on System A i can read that output fine via minicom. on System B i read nothing. same minicom settings. ttyACM0 exists
2017-09-10T17:09:20 < daey> i tried multiple usb ports including the monitor usb hub
2017-09-10T17:09:37 < dongs> have you tried a real OS
2017-09-10T17:09:53 < daey> yes
2017-09-10T17:09:58 < dongs> ahAUehaehaehaehaehaehAHhaehHaheha
2017-09-10T17:10:00 < dongs> which one?
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2017-09-10T17:10:31 < daey> arch/ubuntu/gentoo
2017-09-10T17:10:36 < BrainDamage> daey: check permissions on the device file
2017-09-10T17:10:55 < daey> i ran it as sudo to avoid any of those
2017-09-10T17:11:57 < daey> flashing works fine btw. its just the virtual serial port
2017-09-10T17:14:18 < jpa-> daey: check that you don't have modemdamager running
2017-09-10T17:15:19 < daey> modemmanager?
2017-09-10T17:15:27 < jpa-> yeah
2017-09-10T17:15:40 < jpa-> it tends to open and apply strange settings to /dev/ttyACM*
2017-09-10T17:16:24 < daey> i dont think its even installed.
2017-09-10T17:16:45 < jpa-> good :)
2017-09-10T17:17:14 < daey> or not :(
2017-09-10T17:17:38 < daey> i've no idea what the issue could possibly be
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2017-09-10T17:32:40 < Laurenceb__> !wz miami
2017-09-10T17:32:41 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Rain. Temp is 25.5°C. East wind: 99.8 kph. Humidity: 94%.
2017-09-10T17:32:47 < Laurenceb__> finally somewind
2017-09-10T17:33:41 < BrainDamage> depends also how often that shit is updated
2017-09-10T17:34:10 < BrainDamage> https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-82.22,22.35,2794
2017-09-10T17:34:28 < BrainDamage> ( peak wind speed are lower than reports due to coarse grid averaging )
2017-09-10T17:34:29 < daey> dont worry the solution for the storm has been found
2017-09-10T17:34:34 < daey> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/hurricane-irma-florida-sheriff-pasco-country-shoot-at-storm-facebook-event-a7938741.html?amp
2017-09-10T17:35:02 < BrainDamage> holy shit, that's even more retarded than the fan one
2017-09-10T17:35:50 < Laurenceb__> top kek
2017-09-10T17:36:18 < Laurenceb__> thats nothing, I'm going to shoot the sun
2017-09-10T17:39:45 < Steffanx> like you ever see the sun un the uk
2017-09-10T17:40:12 < Steffanx> i mean, its mostly cloudy and rainy
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2017-09-10T17:54:17 < Steffanx> damnit, all this regulation around li-something batteries makes them damn expensive in europe it seems.
2017-09-10T18:00:32 < englishman> yesterday it wasnt going to go to miami
2017-09-10T18:00:39 < englishman> instead hit keys, naples, tampa
2017-09-10T18:02:01 < Steffanx> naples, even melbourne, this thing is all over the world.
2017-09-10T18:02:21 < Steffanx> Trump fucked up really bad.
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2017-09-10T18:02:40 < englishman> america only names their cities after other cities
2017-09-10T18:03:30 < englishman> https://streamable.com/29frg
2017-09-10T18:04:58 < dongs> happy 9/11, faggots
2017-09-10T18:05:18 < Steffanx> Its not tomorrow yet.
2017-09-10T18:05:36 < Steffanx> lol damnit englishman. :)
2017-09-10T18:09:01 < dongs> it very much is
2017-09-10T18:09:06 < dongs> 12:09am 9/11/20178
2017-09-10T18:23:12 < Steffanx> Which non-yankee uses am/pm?!
2017-09-10T18:24:31 < englishman> dong is a amerifat
2017-09-10T18:24:40 < englishman> true weeaboo
2017-09-10T18:25:09 < englishman> moved to nippon to have better access to untranslated anime
2017-09-10T18:27:17 < Steffanx> I thought he was israeli
2017-09-10T18:30:08 < Laurenceb__> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJXLUUIWsAICSdH.jpg
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2017-09-10T18:33:36 < Laurenceb__> what /pol/ looks like irl https://cdn01.theintercept.com/wp-uploads/sites/1/2017/09/assad-syria-propaganda-youth-1504805517.jpg
2017-09-10T18:34:50 < BrainDamage> I'd post a clip from your hab rockoon presentation to show how pol looks irl
2017-09-10T18:35:30 < Laurenceb__> top trawl
2017-09-10T18:35:40 < dongs> BrainDamage delivers
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2017-09-10T18:50:09 < kakimir> sweet
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2017-09-10T19:12:43 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gFntKt8ABI
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2017-09-10T19:31:00 < Laurenceb__> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/7f/36/a2/7f36a2f7aafc0f4e58c87e90e9e32c08--food-science-funny-science.jpg
2017-09-10T19:34:06 < Laurenceb__> http://i.imgur.com/5awzWGt.png
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2017-09-10T20:15:45 < Laurenceb__> !wz miami
2017-09-10T20:15:47 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Rain. Temp is 25.0°C. East wind: 104.6 kph. Humidity: 97%.
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2017-09-10T20:27:18 < Steffanx> Laurenceb died after seeing that?
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2017-09-10T20:42:53 < kakimir> proper wind
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2017-09-10T21:00:38 < Fleck> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l29l7gx70CI
2017-09-10T21:04:26 < PaulFertser> Did they catch Laurenceb carrying a knife?
2017-09-10T21:05:05 < PaulFertser> No kidding, the UK laws prohibit carrying even utility knives unless you can somehow prove you need it for your work today.
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2017-09-10T21:19:51 < kakimir> isn't it the law in all civilized countries?
2017-09-10T21:20:36 < PaulFertser> kakimir: it seems to be exclusive to the UK, yes.
2017-09-10T21:20:55 < kakimir> here apart from that there is small knife allowed with certain national costume
2017-09-10T21:21:53 < PaulFertser> kakimir: do you understand we're talking about any utility knife in your backpack, it's not about carrying army knifes on your belt or something.
2017-09-10T21:24:58 < kakimir> oh
2017-09-10T21:25:23 < kakimir> that is very strict then
2017-09-10T21:26:37 < kakimir> next thing they will make a licence for utility knifes
2017-09-10T21:26:45 < kakimir> and training course
2017-09-10T21:26:53 < kakimir> to get the licence
2017-09-10T21:26:55 < PaulFertser> https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
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2017-09-10T21:30:18 < kakimir> you can not carry katana
2017-09-10T21:34:23 < invzim> got plenty of board space on this project, any reason NOT to use hc49 smd osc?
2017-09-10T21:34:36 < invzim> last time I used 5x3.2mm - but more costly
2017-09-10T21:39:03 < kakimir> lookin ugly
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2017-09-10T21:48:46 < Steffanx> aesthetics is more important thatn money, unless you expect to sell many of them invzim :)
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2017-09-10T21:51:26 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-10T21:51:37 < kakimir> makes no difference when you build one
2017-09-10T21:51:43 < kakimir> in BOM cost
2017-09-10T21:52:15 < kakimir> or does but BOM cost doesn't really matter in such level
2017-09-10T22:00:07 < kakimir> 0.5eur here 1eur there
2017-09-10T22:00:57 < kakimir> sometimes in low quantity projects you need to pay in dozens or in hundreds or in thousands to make it actually more inexpensive to desing
2017-09-10T22:02:03 < kakimir> using ready of the shelf solutions instead of engineering it all yourself
2017-09-10T22:02:12 < kakimir> *off the shelf
2017-09-10T22:03:01 < invzim> got a bag of the hc49's for peanuts earlier
2017-09-10T22:03:14 < invzim> but good, doesn't matter :)
2017-09-10T22:03:50 < kakimir> so there you have it.. availability in this case
2017-09-10T22:04:06 < invzim> also got a tape of the 5032's, but more expensive :)
2017-09-10T22:04:35 < invzim> taking a little break from my upscaler thingie, got some kind of PLL jitter thing going and sick of not being able to measure it
2017-09-10T22:11:03 < karlp> englishman: any context on https://streamable.com/29frg ? where is that? I guess it's a storm nerd trying to get a wind reading?
2017-09-10T22:16:44 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCioDtoW5sryOfpgLpa_gtiw/videos
2017-09-10T22:18:32 < ohsix> jpa-: k, makes sense; theres an inside-perimeter and outside thing with Dimension, if there was a void where pcb was when it was paneled it'd just stay part of the panel, i think
2017-09-10T22:19:22 < ohsix> when you get to ~arbitrary layers and picking ones out that mean something in the gerber files it's weird
2017-09-10T22:22:19 < daey> how do you work with libopencm3? do you have the library within the project folder? or do you link all your projects to a central libopencm3?
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2017-09-10T22:33:27 < daey> like...glue?
2017-09-10T22:34:54 < daey> well.. " which would be permanently fixed" :")
2017-09-10T22:35:17 < daey> nah glas is hard. the glue is unlikely to be harder
2017-09-10T22:35:45 < daey> true
2017-09-10T22:36:15 < daey> i put my phone infront of the instruments behind the wheel :^)
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2017-09-10T23:12:12 < Fleck> !wz Naples
2017-09-10T23:12:13 < dieforirc> [Naples, Florida] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 24°C. ENE wind: 89 kph. Humidity: 97%.
2017-09-10T23:14:34 < kakimir> !wz EFKU
2017-09-10T23:14:35 < dieforirc> [EFKU, Finland] Rain. Temp is 14°C. SSE wind: 15 kph. Humidity: 100%.
2017-09-10T23:18:00 < Steffanx> !wz melbourne
2017-09-10T23:18:02 < dieforirc> [Melbourne, Australia] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 11.5°C. East wind: 3.1 kph. Humidity: 68%.
2017-09-10T23:18:04 < Steffanx> wrong
2017-09-10T23:18:13 < Steffanx> !wz melbourne, FL
2017-09-10T23:18:15 < dieforirc> [Melbourne, Florida] Rain. Temp is 24.6°C. ENE wind: 8.0 kph. Humidity: 96%.
2017-09-10T23:30:41 < Laurenceb__> da j00s are why im a virgin who masturbates to anime
2017-09-10T23:35:48 < kakimir> disgusting
2017-09-10T23:39:44 < kakimir> stop it
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2017-09-10T23:44:38 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earnest_Hooton#The_.22Hooton_Plan.22
2017-09-10T23:44:41 < Laurenceb__> top fucking kek
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2017-09-10T23:49:31 < kakimir> you know who are behind it
2017-09-10T23:50:13 < kakimir> as if those people all had 10k moneys to pay for trafficers
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2017-09-10T23:53:34 < Laurenceb__> I approve tbh
2017-09-10T23:53:40 < Laurenceb__> destroy all GERMans
2017-09-10T23:55:59 < sync> pls
2017-09-10T23:56:26 < sync> we provided all your royals and now this?
2017-09-10T23:57:23 < Laurenceb__> lel
2017-09-10T23:57:59 < kakimir> I'm pretty sure Laurenceb__ is a happymerchant anyways.. he sold even his cat to people he hates because shikels
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2017-09-11T00:03:19 < Steffanx> he wouldnt sell his cat, it's the only pussy he got.
2017-09-11T00:03:46 < Laurenceb__> took 6 min and thats the best you got?
2017-09-11T00:05:37 < Laurenceb__> https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=22&ved=0ahUKEwiphdrJwpvWAhWBfFAKHbbrC_Q4FBAWCC0wAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fora.ox.ac.uk%2Fobjects%2Fuuid%3A76387b6f-9024-4fbc-8090-da201cd3ca42%2Fdatastreams%2FATTACHMENT01&usg=AFQjCNGqRkEZJTC6kO_ShI9GqW8ScxVThw
2017-09-11T00:05:44 < Laurenceb__> what the fuck did I just read
2017-09-11T00:06:05 < Steffanx> i cant be around to bully you 24/7 Laurenceb__. im sorry.
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2017-09-11T00:07:46 < kakimir> how do you bully someone who can't hear you?
2017-09-11T00:07:51 < Steffanx> and come on, bad jokes is really your thing right?
2017-09-11T00:08:05 < Steffanx> cyber bullying is a thing mr kakimir
2017-09-11T00:08:53 < Laurenceb__> http://rageuniversity.com/
2017-09-11T00:08:57 < Laurenceb__> I liek dis
2017-09-11T00:09:19 < Steffanx> and there is ohsix kakimir, he can bully dongs and dongs cant even read what he says.
2017-09-11T00:09:46 < Laurenceb__> it was real in his mind
2017-09-11T00:09:52 < Steffanx> or annoy him, not sure.
2017-09-11T00:09:53 < karlp> daey: I use a libopencm3 as a git submodule in each project.
2017-09-11T00:10:45 < Steffanx> why so much.. greek ( or whatever that language is ) in there Laurenceb__?
2017-09-11T00:11:13 < Laurenceb__> who knows, its a troll site
2017-09-11T00:12:06 < Steffanx> The boundary between trolling and pure insanity is so unclear nowadays :(
2017-09-11T00:17:26 < daey> karlp: ty. i had some issues converting one of the examples into a project that is located next to the libopencm3 folder due to the dependencies. but it turned out to be easier than i thought
2017-09-11T00:41:16 < jadew> turns out you can change your handwriting style fairly fast
2017-09-11T00:42:10 < jadew> I wasn't happy with how my whiteboard notes looked like and decided to try to write a different way (entirely different) and it's amazing how easy you pick it up
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2017-09-11T00:44:25 < jadew> I think I write maybe 20% slower tho, with the new writing style, but I'm sure I'll catch up
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2017-09-11T01:15:12 < kakimir> anyone have these "hot surface" and "flameable" warning labels?
2017-09-11T01:15:25 < kakimir> seems to be pretty expensive in low quantities
2017-09-11T01:17:01 < sync> then order them in large quantities
2017-09-11T01:18:07 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-11T01:18:26 < kakimir> but I have excess of everything and it's turning out to be a disaster
2017-09-11T01:19:12 < kakimir> it's like 10eur for 10 small but like 50 for 1000
2017-09-11T01:19:47 < kakimir> 20eur for 50 or so
2017-09-11T01:19:58 < sync> well then buy 10000
2017-09-11T01:20:01 < sync> for like 100€
2017-09-11T01:20:33 < kakimir> that is a good plan
2017-09-11T01:21:05 < kakimir> no small stuff to forget in some corner of a box or cabin
2017-09-11T01:21:09 < kakimir> but at full box
2017-09-11T01:23:19 < kakimir> something I can place on floor and almost trip to it every day
2017-09-11T01:23:41 < kakimir> so it reminds me there is these sticker labels if I ever need one
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2017-09-11T01:47:21 < Laurenceb__> print them yourself
2017-09-11T01:47:22 < Steffanx> print them, laminate it and use glue?
2017-09-11T01:47:30 < Steffanx> ^
2017-09-11T01:48:23 < kakimir> we have this proverb in finland
2017-09-11T01:49:54 < kakimir> "Savings at any cost"
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2017-09-11T01:51:38 < kakimir> means you rather pay twice as much and go thru pain and effort than just pay the price
2017-09-11T01:55:25 < englishman> sounds rather canadian
2017-09-11T01:55:43 < englishman> finns, the original make:rs
2017-09-11T01:55:58 < kakimir> the dark side of sisu
2017-09-11T01:58:04 < kakimir> "I can fucking do this myself"
2017-09-11T01:58:23 < jadew> that's my motto
2017-09-11T01:59:01 < kakimir> mine too
2017-09-11T01:59:44 < Steffanx> so go print that shit kakimir
2017-09-11T02:00:23 < kakimir> there is sticker paper for inkjet Steffanx
2017-09-11T02:00:26 < kakimir> just that you know
2017-09-11T02:00:50 < kakimir> and I don't have inkjet.. only piles of lasers
2017-09-11T02:01:08 < jadew> print them on a laser printer and color them with crayons
2017-09-11T02:01:13 < Steffanx> true, but how well does that work in your workshop
2017-09-11T02:01:16 < kakimir> thats mad jadew
2017-09-11T02:01:20 < Steffanx> how long will it last
2017-09-11T02:01:29 < kakimir> not long
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2017-09-11T02:31:59 < Laurenceb__> dude you can get really nice stickers from 3M
2017-09-11T02:32:12 < Laurenceb__> put through laser printer and its super pro
2017-09-11T02:32:25 < Laurenceb__> its how I do CE label shit
2017-09-11T02:32:27 < Laurenceb__> even buttons
2017-09-11T02:34:58 < Laurenceb__> https://kek.gg/i/3C63gF.gif
2017-09-11T02:35:00 < Laurenceb__> my sides
2017-09-11T02:36:44 < Laurenceb__> !wz miami
2017-09-11T02:36:45 < dieforirc> [Miami, Florida] Overcast. Temp is 25.6°C. WNW wind: 40.2 kph. Humidity: 92%.
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2017-09-11T03:27:18 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/lSxGShA.gif
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2017-09-11T03:55:26 < englishman> trabant > robin
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2017-09-11T04:08:53 < dale6998> hello
2017-09-11T04:09:21 < dale6998> is setting up DMA the only really sensible way to read two adc channels on the same adc with an stm32f4?
2017-09-11T04:09:57 < dale6998> i'm reading one just fine, but trying to read two, i see no parameter to select the channel i'm looking for
2017-09-11T04:10:28 < dale6998> i should mention im' just doing polling at this point to do some sanity checks
2017-09-11T04:10:46 < dongs> wgat>
2017-09-11T04:12:27 < dongs> first of all adc dma is probably the easiest shit to setup
2017-09-11T04:13:56 < dale6998> ok...
2017-09-11T04:14:14 < dongs> second, i tried to find a project where i didnt use DMA for switching adc channels nad I just cant
2017-09-11T04:14:28 < dongs> :)
2017-09-11T04:15:45 < dale6998> haha...these are two strong arguments
2017-09-11T04:16:42 < dale6998> so, i'm using cubemx, and the dma section is asking about dma-request, stream, direction and priority
2017-09-11T04:16:57 < dale6998> i'm selecting adc1, dma2 stream 0, and peripheral to memory
2017-09-11T04:17:00 < dongs> shoulnt it be automatic if its cube
2017-09-11T04:17:12 < dongs> sounds about right, is ADC1 on DMA2_Stream0?
2017-09-11T04:17:26 < dale6998> looks like it in the PR
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2017-09-11T04:17:54 < dongs> priority can be whatever until you actually start caring about it
2017-09-11T04:18:09 < dongs> then you should add all teh channels you wanna scan with ADC_RegularChannelConfig or wahtever cube equivalent
2017-09-11T04:18:13 < dale6998> and, my dma request settings are mode:normal, increment memory address, don't incrememnt peripheral address, and don't use the FIFO...Data width for peripheral and memory are half word
2017-09-11T04:18:27 < dale6998> ah, ok
2017-09-11T04:18:28 < dongs> looks legit
2017-09-11T04:18:55 < dale6998> so legit
2017-09-11T04:19:08 < dale6998> alright, ADC_RegularChannelConfig...can you talk more about that?
2017-09-11T04:19:19 < dale6998> that's the hook i can't seem to find in the cube
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2017-09-11T04:21:41 < dale6998> whooooa!!!  hold one one gosh darn minute!!  I think I got it
2017-09-11T04:21:47 < dale6998> tell me what you think of this!!
2017-09-11T04:22:25 < dale6998> ok, so in parameter settings for the ADC1, I say 'DMA Continuous Requests' - Enabled
2017-09-11T04:22:35 < dale6998> then, my world opens up
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2017-09-11T04:24:02 < dale6998> Under ADC_Regular_ConversionMode, I change Number of Conversion to 2, External Trigger Conversion Source - Regular Conversion launched by software, External Trigger Conversion Edge - None, Rank - 1 Channel 11/3 Cycles, and then Rank 2 is Channel 12/3 Cycles!
2017-09-11T04:34:28 < stvn> 10/10 blogging there ^
2017-09-11T04:35:26 < dale6998> ha
2017-09-11T04:35:57 < dale6998> no im trying to comb through the changes that were made with the code...thank god for git diff
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2017-09-11T06:00:51 < dongs> youre clearly doing it wrong
2017-09-11T06:00:59 < dongs> theres a DMA ADC sample in stdperiph and cube sores
2017-09-11T06:01:07 < dongs> just look at that adn copy/understand what it does
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2017-09-11T06:41:00 < ohsix> daey: check out the libopencm3-examples repo
2017-09-11T06:41:12 < ohsix> don't think there's a right way, but that's one way
2017-09-11T06:41:30 < ohsix> -examples checks out cm3 as a submodule and uses it
2017-09-11T06:49:33 < ohsix> Linux is used at the core of all Midas digital consoles. This is mentioned prominently in their marketing materials, as well as in their preference for Linux development and kernel programming experience in job postings for development positions.
2017-09-11T06:50:04 < stvn> lol
2017-09-11T06:50:56 < ohsix> Laurenceb: designing new shit that will be better isn't necessarily good or valued, people stick to objectively worse stuff because it sounds interesting
2017-09-11T06:55:06 < dongs> stvn did you ask your behringer bros
2017-09-11T06:57:47 < dongs> what the hell
2017-09-11T06:57:52 < dongs> i have a .pdf called wifi_pants
2017-09-11T06:57:54 < dongs> in my work directory
2017-09-11T06:58:11 < aandrew> quick, set up a kickstarter
2017-09-11T06:58:22 < dongs> Cut if the cable is inadvertently triggering
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2017-09-11T07:08:44 < stvn> dongs: ill shoot now, whats the model again?
2017-09-11T07:10:46 < dongs> UB1002
2017-09-11T07:12:46 < stvn> ill see how i go, could take a few hours
2017-09-11T07:12:53 < dongs> sure thing, im not in a hurry
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2017-09-11T07:24:09 < ohsix> heh @ jadew coming up with a new way to write, i did that saturday
2017-09-11T07:24:52 < ohsix> was in a meeting that didn't need a lot of thinking & filled both sides of the page i was taking notes on with a new design for shit i put on receipts and how i sign some stuff
2017-09-11T07:27:30 < dale6998> so, i've got the basic dma workflow set up here, but i seem to get getting stuck in the DMA irq...any thoughts on how to troubleshoot this?
2017-09-11T07:31:39 < dongs> which DMA IRQ
2017-09-11T07:31:49 < dongs> cube should autogenerate them all for you
2017-09-11T07:32:06 < dongs> you dont even NEED IRQ
2017-09-11T07:32:09 < dongs> just set up continous dma
2017-09-11T07:32:15 < dongs> and read adc shit from buffer
2017-09-11T07:32:20 < dongs> unless you need to trigger timing/whatever
2017-09-11T07:32:33 < dongs> if its just for shit you need at random intervals, just let it free run and pull values from buffer.
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2017-09-11T07:40:07 < dale6998> that's what it set up
2017-09-11T07:40:23 < dale6998> asd
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2017-09-11T07:40:58 < dale6998> hey , sorry
2017-09-11T07:45:38 < stvn> don't be sorry
2017-09-11T07:47:28 < dale6998> ok, let's see...i got the thumbs up from dongs
2017-09-11T07:47:32 < dale6998> so, that was huge
2017-09-11T07:47:47 < dale6998> and then i got a little futher with this guy:  http://tunizem.blogspot.com/2014/09/using-adc-with-dma-on-stm32.html
2017-09-11T07:48:03 < dongs> ya
2017-09-11T07:48:04 < dongs> circular dma
2017-09-11T07:48:10 < ohsix> surjection
2017-09-11T07:48:14 < dale6998> yeah baby
2017-09-11T07:48:51 < dale6998> but now that i look at the cubemx, i can't disable the dma2 stream0 global interrupt
2017-09-11T07:49:58 < dale6998> and once i call   HAL_ADC_Start_DMA(&hadc1, (uint32_t*) &ADCValue[0], 2);
2017-09-11T07:50:16 < dale6998> all hell breaks loose
2017-09-11T07:50:56 < dale6998> i can't get past the next line of code, and i keep breaking the debugger and winding up in all this dma stuff
2017-09-11T07:52:21 < dale6998> :q
2017-09-11T07:52:25 < dale6998> lol
2017-09-11T07:52:30 < dongs> ... problem found
2017-09-11T07:52:34 < dongs> youre using lunix
2017-09-11T07:52:43 < dale6998> lay it on me baby
2017-09-11T08:00:11 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/gallery/0JWyt
2017-09-11T08:00:41 < dongs> japs
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2017-09-11T08:09:06 < dale6998> always hammer
2017-09-11T08:09:27 < dale6998> well, found the problem...forgot to lay this one on there:
2017-09-11T08:09:32 < dale6998>   HAL_ADC_Start(&hadc1);
2017-09-11T08:09:38 < dale6998> uuuuhhhhhhhhh
2017-09-11T08:09:52 < dongs> that would do it
2017-09-11T08:09:58 < dongs> this is why hal ships with samples
2017-09-11T08:10:17 < dale6998> i hear you
2017-09-11T08:10:43 < dale6998> when you said it's easy as hell to do, you are right
2017-09-11T08:11:58 < dale6998>   HAL_ADC_Start(&hadc1);
2017-09-11T08:12:42 < dale6998> i'm thinking of getting a tattoo
2017-09-11T08:31:53 < stvn> why
2017-09-11T08:32:02 < stvn> isnt that what the nazis did to the jews?
2017-09-11T08:51:59 < dongs> eagle confirmed
2017-09-11T08:52:37 < stvn> haha the dogs
2017-09-11T08:52:43 < stvn> happy 9/11 cunts
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2017-09-11T08:54:39 < dongs> peak led
2017-09-11T08:56:40 < ohsix> https://www.pcb-pool.com/ppuk/info_pcbpool_3d_mid.html nice
2017-09-11T09:03:31 < stvn> gah what a day
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2017-09-11T09:35:02 < invzim> call me when you can route in 3d, not just on the surface :)
2017-09-11T09:36:49 < dongs> thats what dip resistors are for
2017-09-11T09:36:51 < dongs> 0R
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2017-09-11T09:43:59 < ohsix> need new asswmbly processes for that
2017-09-11T09:44:15 < ohsix> that is just a new substrate & process to stick stuff on it
2017-09-11T09:51:15 < emeryth> ohsix: nice 3d goatse circuit
2017-09-11T09:51:49 < dongs> nice autism
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2017-09-11T10:08:21 < fest> emeryth: and I was thinking what does that picture remind me of
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2017-09-11T10:46:46 < dongs> arf arf
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2017-09-11T10:59:33 < Steffanx> Ill call a doctor
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2017-09-11T11:59:48 < stvn> fucking jewber
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2017-09-11T12:23:35 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZCxCg-QWDQ
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2017-09-11T12:32:51 < stvn> :3
2017-09-11T12:33:46 < stvn> 666
2017-09-11T12:40:40 < Steffanx> [09:59:33] <Steffanx> Ill call a doctor
2017-09-11T12:40:54 < stvn> yo
2017-09-11T12:41:08 < Steffanx> You changed username u bastard
2017-09-11T12:41:16 < Steffanx> "shekel"
2017-09-11T12:42:11 < stvn> oh
2017-09-11T12:42:20 < stvn> what's that got to do with the price of cheese?
2017-09-11T12:42:36 < stvn> fwiw i have a new quit message too
2017-09-11T12:43:03 < Steffanx> stvn (908a33b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.138.51.180) has quit (Quit: Page closed) very original indeed
2017-09-11T12:43:34 < stvn> nah
2017-09-11T12:43:37 < Steffanx> :P
2017-09-11T12:44:26 < stvn> cool
2017-09-11T12:44:44 < stvn> so like... what's up?
2017-09-11T12:45:27 < Steffanx> Nothing, just kinda woke up
2017-09-11T12:46:22 < Steffanx> there?
2017-09-11T12:46:35 < stvn> oh
2017-09-11T12:46:48 < stvn> nothing of interest
2017-09-11T12:47:00 < stvn> finally escaped the capacitor factory
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2017-09-11T12:47:40 < stvn> gary was there
2017-09-11T12:48:08 < Steffanx> Gary the goat?
2017-09-11T12:48:52 < BrainDamage> does everyone else sees gary or just you?
2017-09-11T12:49:28 < Steffanx> lol
2017-09-11T12:49:30 < stvn> https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/461676922796118016/t0oNQgpg_400x400.jpeg
2017-09-11T12:50:47 < stvn> it would be nice if i had some tools here
2017-09-11T12:55:08 < Steffanx> buy tools
2017-09-11T12:57:56 < stvn> indeed a good idea
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2017-09-11T13:14:45 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/z5HO2Br.jpg It's September 11th, never forget.............................................................the release of the Atari 2600 on this day in '77.
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2017-09-11T13:16:33 < stvn> wtf rofl
2017-09-11T13:17:05 < dongs> Release date	
2017-09-11T13:17:05 < dongs> NA: September 11, 1977
2017-09-11T13:17:08 < dongs> atari did wtc
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2017-09-11T13:21:57 < stvn> wtf is with the picture on the monitor
2017-09-11T13:24:53 < dongs> look at the kids hands position
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2017-09-11T13:25:01 < stvn> yeah wtf lol
2017-09-11T13:25:27 < dongs> man, i am STILL getting CLion ads
2017-09-11T13:25:40 < dongs> also wow, upgrdman hasnt been here for a while
2017-09-11T13:25:44 < dongs> he must be actualyl busy with WORK
2017-09-11T13:26:29 < stvn> yes
2017-09-11T13:27:05 < BrainDamage> or he's been reformed in great china after accidentally saying something he shouldn't
2017-09-11T13:27:13 < dongs> haha
2017-09-11T13:27:21 < dongs> is that where he was last?
2017-09-11T13:27:25 < dongs> maybe he fucked with a wrong girl
2017-09-11T13:28:37 < zyp> a while = a week and a half
2017-09-11T13:29:37 < dongs> thats quite a while in irc terms
2017-09-11T13:29:53 < dongs> and even less for me, my /lastlog only goes to 48h
2017-09-11T13:29:58 < dongs> so nothing in there = GONE 4 LIFE
2017-09-11T13:30:03 < stvn> lol
2017-09-11T13:31:16 < Steffanx> Luckily for you: "This channel is publicly logged" according to the topic
2017-09-11T13:31:28 < dongs> then i'd have to see o6 autism in logs
2017-09-11T13:31:31 < dongs> can't handle that
2017-09-11T13:33:59 < stvn> unless jpa gets pissed off at crt
2017-09-11T13:34:18 < Steffanx> only stvn and r2com are banned from the public logs i think.
2017-09-11T13:34:44 < Steffanx> oh crt, not stvn
2017-09-11T13:34:51 < stvn> uh huh
2017-09-11T13:35:31 < Steffanx> bought creator studio yet?
2017-09-11T13:35:53 < Steffanx> Except for the ribbon ( hated by some ) and some lacking features its just altium right?
2017-09-11T13:36:13 < Steffanx> *lacking some features
2017-09-11T13:37:41 < stvn> i thought you could buy a 1 year license
2017-09-11T13:37:43 < stvn> apparently not
2017-09-11T13:38:09 < dongs> whaT?
2017-09-11T13:38:13 < dongs> is creator studio
2017-09-11T13:38:19 < dongs> are you talkin gabout ribbonized altidumb?
2017-09-11T13:38:32 < dongs> the only reason to use altium is consistent keyboard shortcuts to do everythign
2017-09-11T13:38:39 < dongs> and they got rid of that with ribbonshit
2017-09-11T13:38:44 < stvn> oh
2017-09-11T13:38:47 < stvn> well fuck it off then
2017-09-11T13:39:26 < Steffanx> What can you buy then stvn?
2017-09-11T13:39:36 < dongs> he can go to school
2017-09-11T13:39:39 < dongs> and get student license for $100
2017-09-11T13:39:42 < stvn> gnaa cad
2017-09-11T13:39:47 < stvn> clearly
2017-09-11T13:39:50 < dongs> probly cheaper to pay for school and just dont go to class
2017-09-11T13:39:56 < stvn> oh yeah
2017-09-11T13:39:58 < dongs> than to afford an altium lic
2017-09-11T13:40:05 < Steffanx> You still cant use that commercially. You can just pay $0 and warez it.
2017-09-11T13:40:26 < dongs> he hasnt reached o6-level autism yet
2017-09-11T13:41:15 < stvn> i'll take that as a complement
2017-09-11T13:41:42 < Steffanx> According to ReadErr you are getting there
2017-09-11T13:45:51 < stvn> ok
2017-09-11T13:46:54 < stvn> hmmmmm~
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2017-09-11T13:51:31 < stvn> https://twitter.com/stvn85/status/866175961506529280
2017-09-11T14:02:20 < dongs> wat
2017-09-11T14:02:21 < dongs> thats not you
2017-09-11T14:08:10 < stvn> zano
2017-09-11T14:09:18 < Steffanx> it's more someone like "Phil Miasup"
2017-09-11T14:09:54 < stvn> is there some way i can know if ivan returned
2017-09-11T14:10:24 < Steffanx> internet
2017-09-11T14:11:12 < dongs> haha
2017-09-11T14:11:16 < dongs> when you search ivan reedman
2017-09-11T14:11:18 < dongs> 1st hit is zano
2017-09-11T14:11:21 < dongs> 2nsd hit is obituary
2017-09-11T14:11:22 < dongs> did he ded
2017-09-11T14:11:36 < dongs> OR maybe people just wish he was dead
2017-09-11T14:11:50 < dongs> Help us understand why you don’t want to add a profile photo
2017-09-11T14:11:50 < dongs> I’m concerned about how I’m perceived
2017-09-11T14:11:50 < dongs> I’m unsure of what a good photo looks like
2017-09-11T14:11:50 < dongs> I’m concerned about who sees my photo
2017-09-11T14:11:59 < dongs> which one should i picjk
2017-09-11T14:12:13 < stvn> no obituary
2017-09-11T14:12:17 < stvn> that i can find
2017-09-11T14:12:23 < stvn> dongs, goatse obvs
2017-09-11T14:13:20 < dongs> negative
2017-09-11T14:13:32 < stvn> ah okay
2017-09-11T14:13:38 < dongs> https://twitter.com/garynigergnaa
2017-09-11T14:13:42 < dongs> thats the gary niger
2017-09-11T14:14:18 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-11T14:14:21 < zyp> google suggests ivan works at ncc group now
2017-09-11T14:14:41 < dongs> oh?
2017-09-11T14:14:43 < stvn> Are you gay? Are you a nigger? If you answered "yes" to both of these questions, then GNAA might be exactly what you're looking for!
2017-09-11T14:14:48 < dongs> his dicked-in says ot herwise
2017-09-11T14:15:08 < zyp> https://www.nccgroup.trust/uk/about-us/newsroom-and-events/in-the-media/2017/may/ncc-group-appears-on-bbcs-the-one-show/
2017-09-11T14:16:32 < dongs> ohh hes back to that truck job hten
2017-09-11T14:17:08 < dongs> need to get Laurenceb to download this for us
2017-09-11T14:17:10 < dongs> to verify
2017-09-11T14:17:14 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-11T14:17:19 < dongs> cant watch from jp
2017-09-11T14:17:21 < stvn> Laurenceb wake up
2017-09-11T14:17:25 < stvn> you fucking prick
2017-09-11T14:18:03 < stvn> Sorry, this episode is not currently available
2017-09-11T14:18:35 < dongs> yeah, but im guessing its cuz im not in UK
2017-09-11T14:19:20 < zyp> "The episode will be available until 24 June 2017."
2017-09-11T14:19:29 < Steffanx> awh
2017-09-11T14:19:37 < stvn> well fuck that
2017-09-11T14:19:38 < dongs> ohi
2017-09-11T14:19:39 < dongs> fuck
2017-09-11T14:22:06 < Steffanx> the show is torrentable but this date seems to be missing
2017-09-11T14:22:19 < dongs> conspiracy
2017-09-11T14:22:25 < dongs> ivan did BBC
2017-09-11T14:23:42 < dongs> < zyp> "The episode will be available until 24 June 2017."
2017-09-11T14:23:44 < dongs> where do you see this?
2017-09-11T14:23:57 < zyp> in the article I linked to
2017-09-11T14:23:58 < stvn> in .no
2017-09-11T14:24:09 < stvn> the dogs did it
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2017-09-11T14:28:29 < Steffanx> teapot, stvn. teapot
2017-09-11T14:28:47 < stvn> sir
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2017-09-11T14:45:00 < Laurenceb> hello trolls
2017-09-11T14:45:09 < Laurenceb> what is this pinging i see
2017-09-11T14:45:46 < Laurenceb> Andy Davis and Ivan Reedman, of NCC Group’s transport assurance practice,
2017-09-11T14:45:49 < Laurenceb> holy shit wut
2017-09-11T14:45:57 < dongs> yes
2017-09-11T14:46:02 < stvn> piss
2017-09-11T14:46:10 < Laurenceb> > Sorry, this episode is not currently available
2017-09-11T14:46:11 < Steffanx> *autism
2017-09-11T14:46:26 < Laurenceb> > Amol Rajan
2017-09-11T14:46:32 < Laurenceb> the Raj did nothing wrong
2017-09-11T14:47:12 < Laurenceb> its not available in uk either, prob cuz their web dev fucked up
2017-09-11T14:48:02 < Laurenceb> wew nccgroup
2017-09-11T14:48:10 < Laurenceb>  "rare ASP.net"
2017-09-11T14:48:36 < Laurenceb> Rare ASP.NET request validation bypass
2017-09-11T14:48:39 < Laurenceb> the rarest
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2017-09-11T14:49:12 < Laurenceb> holy shit wut it this crap https://www.nccgroup.trust/uk/about-us/newsroom-and-events/blogs/2017/september/poison-ivy-string-decryption/
2017-09-11T14:49:25 < dongs> https://github.com/orgs/nccgroup/people
2017-09-11T14:49:32 < dongs> are they some kinda hax0rs
2017-09-11T14:49:49 < Laurenceb> is that... RISCOS ?!
2017-09-11T14:50:00 < dongs>  what part?
2017-09-11T14:50:07 < dongs> thats ida screenshots but thy're using some retarded colorscheme
2017-09-11T14:50:12 < Laurenceb> ah
2017-09-11T14:50:21 < Laurenceb> looks like RISCOS from early 90s lol
2017-09-11T14:50:31 < dongs> yeah fuck grayfag colorscheme
2017-09-11T14:51:04 < Laurenceb> running RISCOS is the sort of thing Ivan Reedman would do
2017-09-11T14:51:29 < Laurenceb> https://www.riscosopen.org/content/ open the sores
2017-09-11T14:52:02 < Laurenceb> We’ll be demonstrating a 2TB (yes, that’s 2,000,000,000,000 or 2 × 10 12 bytes) drive in native Acorn FileCore format attached directly to the disc controller.
2017-09-11T14:52:07 < Laurenceb> how shit dude
2017-09-11T14:52:36 < dongs> meanwhile windows supports petabytes on NTFS
2017-09-11T14:52:39 < dongs> since 90's
2017-09-11T14:53:00 < Laurenceb> https://www.riscosopen.org/photos/system/assets/1240837825_normal.jpg?1300226720
2017-09-11T14:53:07 < Laurenceb> mysides.jpg
2017-09-11T14:54:10 < jadew> I don't get it
2017-09-11T14:54:15 < jadew> what's the catch?
2017-09-11T14:54:33 < dongs> i guess its NOT LUNIX
2017-09-11T14:55:40 < jadew> seems like an old tech exhibition
2017-09-11T14:55:45 < jadew> (notice the floppy drives)
2017-09-11T14:55:53 < dongs> thats acorn for you
2017-09-11T14:55:57 < dongs> they still use htem
2017-09-11T14:56:06 < jadew> bullshit
2017-09-11T14:57:15 < Laurenceb> its prob from 2017 or something
2017-09-11T14:57:31 < Laurenceb> acorn users think its 1994 every year
2017-09-11T14:59:09 < Laurenceb> holy shit we just reach peak britfag
2017-09-11T14:59:11 < Laurenceb> https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/raspberry-pi
2017-09-11T15:03:04 < dongs> awful
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2017-09-11T15:24:36 < dongs> seems circuitmaker is pretty dead
2017-09-11T15:24:40 < dongs> hasnt been update to that in nearly a year
2017-09-11T15:35:45 < Laurenceb> oh shit I'm out of a jerb
2017-09-11T15:36:10 < Laurenceb> IEEE 1451.4  compliant iepe, its basically my usb accel done pro
2017-09-11T15:36:25 < Laurenceb> IEPE moar liek iPEPE
2017-09-11T15:36:55 < Laurenceb> https://standards.ieee.org/develop/regauth/tut/teds.pdf
2017-09-11T15:37:01  * Laurenceb BTFO
2017-09-11T15:38:35 < Laurenceb> damn
2017-09-11T15:38:51 < Laurenceb> there are 8µG/sqrt(Hz) mini sensors available off the shelf
2017-09-11T15:39:19 < Steffanx> Someone didnt do proper research on a business case?
2017-09-11T15:39:46 < Laurenceb> yeah but that wasn't my jerb
2017-09-11T15:39:58 < Laurenceb> maybe I should just shut up and get paid
2017-09-11T15:40:07 < Laurenceb> or... buy this shit and pretend I made it
2017-09-11T15:40:19 < zyp> as long as you get paid to do your job, just let the other people worry about selling it
2017-09-11T15:40:23 < Steffanx> or clone it.
2017-09-11T15:40:28 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-09-11T15:40:52 < Laurenceb> still worth reading about how it works
2017-09-11T15:41:07 < BrainDamage> see what it lacks, make a better version
2017-09-11T15:41:40 < Steffanx> It probably lacks the data over usb part, but i dont think that is bad :P
2017-09-11T15:41:54 < Steffanx> *audio class
2017-09-11T15:43:37 < Laurenceb> I could try to add TEDS to usb, national instruments have probably written some sort of spec
2017-09-11T15:44:27 < Laurenceb> https://sem.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sem.org-IMAC-XX-Conf-S18P02-Capabilities-Standardization-Mixed-Mode-Sensors.pdf
2017-09-11T15:44:35 < Laurenceb> ah it's mega lame
2017-09-11T15:44:56 < Laurenceb> current loop with 1-wire haxored onto it
2017-09-11T15:45:04 < Laurenceb> yeah USB pwns this
2017-09-11T15:46:24 < zyp> so how's your usb stuff going?
2017-09-11T15:47:10 < Laurenceb> it works fine now
2017-09-11T15:47:34 < Laurenceb> only thing missing is proper suspend/resume support
2017-09-11T15:48:17 < Laurenceb> really it should sleep the sensors, but that could cause start up transients at the beginning of the data, might add it later
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2017-09-11T15:56:50 < Laurenceb> https://www.elintosms.lt/en/products/environmental-measurement-instruments-2/digital-vibration-meters-10/mmf-vm31-1491
2017-09-11T15:56:55 < Laurenceb> woah dat price
2017-09-11T15:59:16 < sync> not too bad actually
2017-09-11T16:00:37 < Steffanx> that case looks familiar.
2017-09-11T16:04:42 < Laurenceb> 4channels of IEPE with TEDS support
2017-09-11T16:04:47 < Laurenceb> pretty lame
2017-09-11T16:05:25 < Laurenceb> I need to be able to monitor transfer functions between three bodies
2017-09-11T16:05:41 < Laurenceb> so >9 channels if the accels are bolted on
2017-09-11T16:30:34 < Laurenceb> holy shit
2017-09-11T16:30:47 < Laurenceb> Milo's house got pwnd by Irma
2017-09-11T16:30:52 < Laurenceb> I liek dis timeline
2017-09-11T16:36:56 < englishman> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81JOaXYvi9L._SY450_.jpg
2017-09-11T16:36:56 < englishman> ?
2017-09-11T16:38:22 < Laurenceb> https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2017/02/20/17/milo.jpg
2017-09-11T16:38:55 < Laurenceb> https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-41180420
2017-09-11T16:39:11 < Laurenceb> Some dey get picture of footballers; sometimes, na musician dey.
2017-09-11T16:39:12 < Laurenceb> Dis gambling box wey be slot machine don become popular
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2017-09-11T17:08:51 < ReadErr> Hurricane Irma don begin hammer Florida
2017-09-11T17:09:17 < ReadErr> So no be only pickin; adults too don fall for di magic wey dem feel say dey inside dis machines dem.
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2017-09-11T17:14:09 < Steffanx> " I verify that I am not an employee of Cadence Design Systems, Mentor Graphics Corporation, or Magma Design Automation" lolwut?
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2017-09-11T18:11:52 < kakimir> is there orange label sticker A4 sheets from 3M Laurenceb ?
2017-09-11T18:11:59 < kakimir> it would be ideal
2017-09-11T18:12:09 < kakimir> *for laser printer
2017-09-11T18:16:41 < englishman> lol check out this timeline
2017-09-11T18:16:52 < englishman> july 29, equifax discovers data breach
2017-09-11T18:17:17 < englishman> august 21, someone buys 2600 equifax puts (typical volume is 260 / month)
2017-09-11T18:18:00 < englishman> sep 7, equifax reveals data breach to public, stock drops 40%
2017-09-11T18:18:05 < englishman> someone made $4m
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2017-09-11T18:18:41 < kakimir> insider
2017-09-11T18:21:31 < Laurenceb> I can't even right now
2017-09-11T18:21:33 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/7p0a0AW.png
2017-09-11T18:23:05 < Laurenceb> kakimir: I only have white and alu
2017-09-11T18:23:13 < Steffanx> want me to photoshop some male head into that photo Laurenceb?
2017-09-11T18:23:25 < Steffanx> i have a specific male head in mind
2017-09-11T18:23:28 < Laurenceb> photoshop urself
2017-09-11T18:23:36 < Steffanx> There is no fun in that
2017-09-11T18:23:50 < kakimir> is there orange?
2017-09-11T18:24:06 < englishman> equifax cheef security officer has a BA in music composition
2017-09-11T18:24:07 < Laurenceb> don't think so
2017-09-11T18:24:12 < Laurenceb> maybe someone else does it
2017-09-11T18:24:23 < Laurenceb> why not just orange background on white sheet?
2017-09-11T18:24:57 < kakimir> because only laser printer
2017-09-11T18:24:58 < Laurenceb> white sheet intensifies http://www2.badtux.net/uploaded_images/kkk-robe-l-709670.jpg
2017-09-11T18:25:09 < kakimir> you are broken Laurenceb
2017-09-11T18:25:14 < Laurenceb> B&W printer?
2017-09-11T18:25:32 < Laurenceb> then find a colour one
2017-09-11T18:25:47 < Laurenceb> remeber not to fuck it up with melted labels
2017-09-11T18:25:52 < Laurenceb> I've done that before
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2017-09-11T20:00:36 < invzim> so the thingie I'm making will be usb host, with type A female - DFU in usb mode should work to get the initial bootloader in with male-male cable right?
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2017-09-11T20:11:27 < karlp> invzim: if you really want to make a dual role device, use a proper dual role connector.
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2017-09-11T20:24:24 < qyx> much conceptual
2017-09-11T20:26:01 < invzim> nah, not dual role - I just want to avoid populating the JTAG stuff if it goes to production
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2017-09-11T20:53:20 < jadew> comment on a programming video (not a very good one): "What I learned from reading these comments is that programmers do not agree on anything and are very confident."
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2017-09-11T21:03:11 < aandrew> anyone here have the bluetooth core v4 (4.0, 4.1, 4.2) mega pdf?
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2017-09-11T22:14:35 < kakimir> should I become blackhat
2017-09-11T22:14:51 < kakimir> break all the IOT
2017-09-11T22:21:07 < Steffanx> Good luck
2017-09-11T22:23:03 < kakimir> join pwnteam
2017-09-11T22:23:17 < kakimir> live hacker millionare life and be cool all day
2017-09-11T22:24:08 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKMFczdjE0d2dDdG8/view?usp=sharing
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2017-09-11T23:14:51 < englishman> steffy did 9/11 https://i.imgur.com/ANby7Br.png
2017-09-11T23:16:36 < kakimir> what does it say?
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2017-09-11T23:23:47 < Steffanx> "In  life you're either a passenger or a pilot. It's your choice. Choose".
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2017-09-11T23:27:33 < kakimir> it's 9/11 I have not heard anything about it today
2017-09-11T23:29:45 < kakimir> mainstream media has nothing..
2017-09-11T23:31:45 < englishman> eventually forget
2017-09-11T23:34:30 < kakimir> first they didn't allow people to forget
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2017-09-11T23:45:49 < ohsix> boo
2017-09-11T23:46:40 < ohsix> jadew: hurr i did the reinvented handwriting thing on saturday when i was taking notes
2017-09-11T23:46:42 < ohsix> it is easy!
2017-09-11T23:46:59 < ohsix> just need to remember to keep doing it
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2017-09-12T00:23:00 < Steffanx> Its easy to change, just write with your other hand
2017-09-12T00:26:55 < kakimir> hand writing is hard
2017-09-12T00:28:09 < Steffanx> no its not
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2017-09-12T00:29:11 < kakimir> you should see my writing
2017-09-12T00:29:36 < Steffanx> its a thing of patience and pratice.
2017-09-12T00:29:52 < Steffanx> Write slower.
2017-09-12T00:30:16 < kakimir> then it looks even worse
2017-09-12T00:30:29 < kakimir> it lacks flow and there is higher pressure on tip
2017-09-12T00:31:38 < Steffanx> Get a good old fountain pen and you'll learn after you bend or split a dozen of tips :P
2017-09-12T00:31:49 < jadew> ohsix, surprising isn't it?
2017-09-12T00:32:19 < aandrew> Steffanx: exactly
2017-09-12T00:32:31 < jadew> yeah, write slow until you get the letters the way you want them
2017-09-12T00:32:36 < jadew> then you increase your speed gradually
2017-09-12T00:32:47 < jadew> also, not all writing styles can be done fast
2017-09-12T00:33:08 < kakimir> not all writing styles can be done slow
2017-09-12T00:33:14 < jadew> heh
2017-09-12T00:33:40 < kakimir> try doing your signature in 1/10 slow motion
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2017-09-12T00:34:01 < Steffanx> i cant do my signature when i have to think about it
2017-09-12T00:34:14 < kakimir> no shit
2017-09-12T00:34:27 < Steffanx> same with password(s), i know the sequence. When i start to think about it, i fail.
2017-09-12T00:34:30 < jadew> yeah, same here, but my signature is not paritcularly fixed
2017-09-12T00:34:36 < jadew> it started from something, but now it's just some thing
2017-09-12T00:35:26 < zyp> there's so many of those shitty digital signature pads around now that I've stopped caring how my signature looks
2017-09-12T00:35:55 < zyp> I start with something that resembles a V, then some scribbles, then something resembling an E and more scribbles
2017-09-12T00:36:15 < jadew> Steffanx: about writing with the other hand
2017-09-12T00:36:25 < jadew> challenge accepted
2017-09-12T00:36:25 < Steffanx> oh, when i sign for a package for example i just do something random, mostly because the pads suck so hard indeed
2017-09-12T00:36:30 < aandrew> yeah those digital pads are useless
2017-09-12T00:36:40 < aandrew> I just make a squiggle, don't even try to approximate anything
2017-09-12T00:36:44 < zyp> Steffanx, that's pretty much everything I sign for nowadays
2017-09-12T00:37:01 < zyp> I mean, what else are there to sign?
2017-09-12T00:37:26 < Steffanx> contracts, NDAs whatever.
2017-09-12T00:37:59 < zyp> when I got my car loan I signed digitally
2017-09-12T00:38:07 < zyp> all sorts of public forms are also digitally signed
2017-09-12T00:38:14 < zyp> tax report, address change, etc
2017-09-12T00:38:28 < zyp> hmm
2017-09-12T00:38:58 < zyp> employment contract and apartment contract I have on paper, those might be the only two documents I've signed manually this year
2017-09-12T00:42:07 < jadew> ok, I think it would take months before I could write properly with my left hand
2017-09-12T00:42:12 < Steffanx> for some reason i thought you would be one of those people that already tried that jadew. Being able to write properly with both hands
2017-09-12T00:42:15 < jadew> I can't even make a circle or a straight line
2017-09-12T00:42:31 < jadew> Steffanx, I did try that in school, but I gave up
2017-09-12T00:43:00 < zyp> do you guys even handwrite much?
2017-09-12T00:43:05 < jadew> I do
2017-09-12T00:43:12 < jadew> I take notes all the time
2017-09-12T00:43:33 < zyp> I have a bunch of post-its on my desk at work, that's most of the handwriting I've been doing lately
2017-09-12T00:43:35 < jadew> I have a stack of notebooks on my desk
2017-09-12T00:44:04 < Steffanx> i like to write stuff down
2017-09-12T00:44:11 < Rickta59> I can't write anymore
2017-09-12T00:44:21 < Rickta59> signature or cursive or block
2017-09-12T00:44:30 < Rickta59> but man i can type
2017-09-12T00:44:42 < jadew> Rickta59, that was the case for me too a couple of years ago, but then I started learning new stuff and realized taking notes is easier on a regular notebook than on the PC
2017-09-12T00:45:19 < Rickta59> hard to troll people on a pad of paper : )
2017-09-12T00:45:23 < Steffanx> i often write stuff down to never look at it again, mainly because it helps me to remember it.
2017-09-12T00:45:31 < jadew> that too
2017-09-12T00:45:47 < jadew> + it's easy to write formulas on paper
2017-09-12T00:45:54 < Steffanx> indeed
2017-09-12T00:46:27 < Steffanx> better show us your swipe skillzz Rickta59
2017-09-12T00:46:42 < Steffanx> *swype
2017-09-12T00:50:40 < Steffanx> that's what the millenials do right? Except that you are not in that category iirc
2017-09-12T01:04:18 < Laurenceb__> https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/4439291/youtube-pulls-down-immigration-and-islam-featuring-nigel-farage-amid-growing-censorship-row/
2017-09-12T01:04:26 < Laurenceb__>  /pol/ is front page news in UK
2017-09-12T01:04:39 < Laurenceb__> channers did it again
2017-09-12T01:06:32 < Laurenceb__> wonder if irc dramaz will ever become front page news
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2017-09-12T01:55:34 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: not if you won't do it
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2017-09-12T02:12:41 < Steffanx> #laurencebTheMusical
2017-09-12T02:13:10 < Laurenceb__> already made
2017-09-12T02:13:30 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC7HwPh6Es
2017-09-12T02:15:04 < Steffanx>  it needs more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k and maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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2017-09-12T03:00:22 < Laurenceb__> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1365541/pdf/jphysiol01117-0194.pdf
2017-09-12T03:00:31 < Laurenceb__> how to trigger ppl who post cat videos
2017-09-12T03:07:11 < sync> wut
2017-09-12T03:16:02 < jadew> that's the kind of papers the alien students who visit our planet publish
2017-09-12T03:16:38 < jadew> except they're in the line of "the relative sensitivity to vibration of the muscle receptors in the human anus"
2017-09-12T03:18:28 < jadew> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-macaray/why-would-a-space-alien-p_b_7805664.html
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2017-09-12T03:26:02 < stvn> wafel wafel
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2017-09-12T04:29:57 < ds2> or rename root
2017-09-12T04:30:00 < ds2> blah
2017-09-12T04:30:16 < ds2> Or rename root
2017-09-12T04:30:21 < ds2> wtf
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2017-09-12T04:35:04 < jadew> quick poll:
2017-09-12T04:35:18 < englishman> [ ] polls suck ass
2017-09-12T04:35:26 < stvn> stick one in
2017-09-12T04:35:35 < jadew> type A = { X, Y, Z }; type B = { Z, W };
2017-09-12T04:35:40 < jadew> what's the intersection between A and B?
2017-09-12T04:35:46 < englishman> [✓] autism intensifies
2017-09-12T04:36:32 < englishman> this is not a homework channel
2017-09-12T04:36:36 < jadew> haha
2017-09-12T04:37:05 < jadew> come on, I want to see what intuition tells you
2017-09-12T04:38:03 < jadew> because I had an issue on github closed in the idea that my intuition is wrong and their experience with other users is exactly the opoosite
2017-09-12T04:38:22 < jadew> so I want to see if my intuition and logic is shit or if they're talking shit
2017-09-12T04:38:38 < englishman> pretty sure this was a 1st year logic course at uni / highschool
2017-09-12T04:38:55 < jadew> precisely, but for my sanity, please tell me what the intersection is
2017-09-12T04:38:56 < englishman> introducing sets / discrete math etc
2017-09-12T04:39:17 < englishman> In mathematics, the intersection A ∩ B of two sets A and B is the set that contains all elements of A that also belong to B (or equivalently, all elements of B that also belong to A), but no other elements.
2017-09-12T04:39:42 < jadew> correct
2017-09-12T04:39:46 < jadew> check this out
2017-09-12T04:40:00 < jadew> in typescript, the intersection would be { X, Y, Z, W }
2017-09-12T04:40:07 < jadew> and the union is { Z }...
2017-09-12T04:40:47 < jadew> and after a bit of discussions on the topic and me saying it's counter intuitive they said their experience is exactly the opposite, that users expected it to be like that
2017-09-12T04:40:49 < jadew> WTF?
2017-09-12T04:41:35 < englishman> sounds like typical lunix faggots inventing their own math systems
2017-09-12T04:42:17 < englishman> too full of themselves to type "intersection" into wikipedia
2017-09-12T04:42:53 < englishman> or using the first result as an argument "what the fuck do traffic lights have to do with this"
2017-09-12T04:43:14 < jadew> heh, it's silly they blame it on type theory
2017-09-12T04:43:22 < jadew> apparently there's a field of study that defines them like this
2017-09-12T04:43:52 < jadew> but my argument was that if type theory says a union is an intersection, then it is wrong
2017-09-12T04:43:57 < jadew> https://github.com/Microsoft/TypeScript/issues/18383#event-1244315499
2017-09-12T04:44:07 < jadew> here's the issue if you're wondering
2017-09-12T04:44:56 < englishman> did you know? hiring lunix nerds is considered an affirmative action hire, and will result in the downfall of society
2017-09-12T04:45:10 < jadew> heh
2017-09-12T04:45:31 < jadew> btw, they are actually named correctly for the chosen operators & and |
2017-09-12T04:45:40 < jadew> it's just that they do the opposite thing than you'd expect
2017-09-12T04:46:00 < jadew> | has the equivalent effect of a binary and
2017-09-12T04:46:08 < jadew> and & has the equivalent effect of a binary or
2017-09-12T04:46:11 < englishman> intersection and union are the same as & and |
2017-09-12T04:46:27 < englishman> what the fuck is typescript even
2017-09-12T04:46:28 < jadew> yes, but in typescript they do the opposite thing
2017-09-12T04:46:42 < jadew> typescript is typed javascript
2017-09-12T04:47:11 < englishman> dont you have better things to do
2017-09-12T04:47:41 < jadew> I do, but I've been stuck on this little "3 months top" project for the past year
2017-09-12T04:47:59 < englishman> how is javascript going to solve your problem
2017-09-12T04:48:08 < jadew> well, it's a js thing
2017-09-12T04:48:18 < englishman> i see why this is taking 3 months
2017-09-12T04:48:19 < jadew> you won't believe me if I tell you what it is
2017-09-12T04:49:06 < jadew> it's a WYSIWYG editor
2017-09-12T04:49:46 < jadew> and yes, I know there are a bunch available, but I tried them all and wasn't happy with any of them, so I figured it'd be easy to write my own
2017-09-12T04:49:48 < jadew> it wasn't
2017-09-12T04:50:44 < jadew> anyway, in I've been using typescript ever since and it's pretty nice
2017-09-12T04:51:02 < jadew> the MS guys know how to keep it from turning to shit
2017-09-12T04:51:49 < stvn> mood morning
2017-09-12T04:51:54 < stvn> good
2017-09-12T04:51:57 < jadew> hey
2017-09-12T04:52:01 < stvn> 0/
2017-09-12T04:57:24 < jadew> anyway, I have to get back to work, I've been procrastinating for a couple of days already
2017-09-12T04:58:13 < stvn> same
2017-09-12T04:58:20 < stvn> couple of years to be more exact
2017-09-12T04:58:27 < jadew> heh
2017-09-12T04:58:43 < jadew> I only do it when I hit a tough problem
2017-09-12T04:59:08 < jadew> I already solved the one I'm currently stuck at but it's also a bitch to implement
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2017-09-12T04:59:26 < jadew> it gets boring to work on the same thing for a year
2017-09-12T05:01:41 < stvn> as usual
2017-09-12T05:01:45 < englishman> crt
2017-09-12T05:01:47 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/SdQkZmw.jpg
2017-09-12T05:01:48 < stvn> also greetings englishman
2017-09-12T05:01:51 < englishman> vintage pussy
2017-09-12T05:02:08 < stvn> good timing
2017-09-12T05:02:32 < stvn> reminds me of the good old days
2017-09-12T05:02:56 < stvn> ya know back in 1488
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2017-09-12T05:48:46 < jadew> I found beaky
2017-09-12T05:48:59 < jadew> he's in ##programming
2017-09-12T05:49:24 < jadew> ah, and ##electronics
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2017-09-12T06:07:42 < stvn> beaky is everywhere
2017-09-12T06:15:36 < stvn> i can smell it
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2017-09-12T09:45:03 < zyp> what's an RC freak?
2017-09-12T09:47:55 < ohsix> sup
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2017-09-12T10:49:28 < daey> R2COM: there used to be a RC channel on freenode
2017-09-12T10:49:48 < daey> but i forgot the channel name :^)
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2017-09-12T11:03:46 < ohsix> https://github.com/joxeankoret/diaphora
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2017-09-12T11:47:05 < dongs> dongul8
2017-09-12T11:47:23 < dongs> daey: i think it got renamed to #dji
2017-09-12T11:47:40 < stvn> did ya mixer fix itself yet?
2017-09-12T11:47:59 < dongs> not yet, ive been on the road all day
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2017-09-12T12:05:41 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJXuLLeVwAASXLs.jpg
2017-09-12T12:07:22 < stvn> only in the americuh
2017-09-12T12:24:10 < Steffanx> where is upgrdman
2017-09-12T12:25:24 < karlp> fried himself with his xray guns?
2017-09-12T12:26:07 < stvn> o wot
2017-09-12T12:29:38 < Steffanx> spotted dongs latest project http://media.dumpert.nl/tablet/_1c187c77_YTDL_1.mp4.mp4.mp4
2017-09-12T12:30:34 < karlp> got .mp4?
2017-09-12T12:31:17 < karlp> that's pretty awesome :)
2017-09-12T12:31:51 < Steffanx> You dont want me to link to the page  without tripple .mp4, because you have to click some huge banner you accept cookies and then watch some ads.
2017-09-12T12:33:09 < stvn> hello welcome
2017-09-12T12:37:42 < Steffanx> Thank you, welcome.
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2017-09-12T12:45:22 < dongs>  < Steffanx> spotted dongs latest project
2017-09-12T12:45:25 < dongs> gawd how retarded
2017-09-12T12:45:53 < Steffanx> lol why do you  think i post it here :d
2017-09-12T12:46:00 < dongs> o6-level autism
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2017-09-12T12:53:01 < stvn> pure concentrate
2017-09-12T12:55:15 < Steffanx> one teaspoon before luch?
2017-09-12T12:55:36 < Steffanx> lunch even
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2017-09-12T13:06:45 < stvn> 8pm
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2017-09-12T13:07:31 < stvn> too late for a sperg out
2017-09-12T13:10:18 < Steffanx> its never too late.
2017-09-12T13:20:28 < stvn> never too late for tey lang
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2017-09-12T13:53:19 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-09-12T13:53:45 < Steffanx> Tha sky mate.
2017-09-12T13:54:49 < Laurenceb> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/12/linus_torvalds_hacker_recruitment_aspiration/
2017-09-12T13:55:44 < Laurenceb> why am I thinking of the bad guy from here
2017-09-12T13:55:46 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
2017-09-12T14:00:12 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/flaunttnualf/status/907384848238641154
2017-09-12T14:02:14 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/bodickle/status/907357901437722629
2017-09-12T14:02:49 < Laurenceb> horseshoe theory is real
2017-09-12T14:04:18 < karlp> horseshoe theory?
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2017-09-12T14:04:52 < Steffanx> dont even bother, lol :P
2017-09-12T14:05:00 < Laurenceb> Nazis go SJW and SJW go Nazi
2017-09-12T14:05:15 < Laurenceb> explaining Laci Green and Baked Alaska
2017-09-12T14:06:02 < karlp> yeah, what was I thinking.
2017-09-12T14:06:36 < Steffanx> You have to be into the scene to even know who those people are.
2017-09-12T14:08:20 < Laurenceb> or watch MTV...
2017-09-12T14:08:35 < Laurenceb> oh wait yeah thats pretty sad
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2017-09-12T14:12:09 < Steffanx> I like to watch 16 and pregnant.
2017-09-12T14:12:51 < Laurenceb> take a seat over there
2017-09-12T14:13:31 < Steffanx> nah, they probably do make a shitload of money with this useless drama.
2017-09-12T14:13:48 < dongs> D E R O
2017-09-12T14:14:07 < dongs> of course what i meant was D E R P
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2017-09-12T14:14:13 < dongs> but i didnt bother looking at keyboard or screen
2017-09-12T14:14:50 < Laurenceb> how do I even type
2017-09-12T14:14:56 < dongs> no idea
2017-09-12T14:15:13 < Laurenceb> use https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/11/gemini_psion_alike_pre_production_prototype_handson/
2017-09-12T14:19:28 < dongs> garbage
2017-09-12T14:26:59 < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/evaluation-tools/solution-evaluation-tools/motor-control-solution-eval-boards/steval-esc001v1.html?icmp=tt5571_gl_bn_aug2017
2017-09-12T14:27:11 < Laurenceb> late to the game...
2017-09-12T14:27:30 < zyp> so are you
2017-09-12T14:28:58 < Laurenceb> marblecake
2017-09-12T14:43:39 < dongs> yeah that was linked in here like weeks ago
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2017-09-12T14:55:41 < englishman> still not as good as luxesc on f0
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2017-09-12T15:14:16 < Laurenceb> I read that as lunix on F0
2017-09-12T15:14:21 < Laurenceb> someone has prob done this
2017-09-12T15:24:58 < jadew> morning
2017-09-12T15:25:41 < jadew> Laurenceb, you launch balloons, right?
2017-09-12T15:25:48 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-09-12T15:25:50 < Laurenceb> used to...
2017-09-12T15:26:16 < jadew> where's the biggest part of the hobby? in launching/tracking/telemetry?
2017-09-12T15:26:39 < jadew> I suppose you don't get to have them for too long in your sight
2017-09-12T15:27:03 < fest> recovery maybe?
2017-09-12T15:27:13 < jadew> oh, that's a thing too?
2017-09-12T15:27:56 < jadew> I thought you don't recover them
2017-09-12T15:28:07 < fest> yeah, a friend who's into that kind of stuff always recovers the payload
2017-09-12T15:28:26 < fest> maybe because he doesn't have high-bandwidth downlink for video footage
2017-09-12T15:29:38 < jadew> how do you recover them? don't then end up in different countries?
2017-09-12T15:30:00 < jadew> can you control them?
2017-09-12T15:30:15 < fest> nope, just launching them when there is no wind
2017-09-12T15:30:30 < zyp> prediction models based on wind profiles
2017-09-12T15:30:30 < fest> he did have some near misses where it landed close to Russian border
2017-09-12T15:31:04 < fest> he's also trying to take model rocket as high as he can to reach 100km altitude
2017-09-12T15:31:10 < Steffanx> depends on what your mission is of course.. some go up for the longest "ride", others to take photos/video etc.
2017-09-12T15:31:13 < fest> supposedly for the first time in this country
2017-09-12T15:31:14 < jadew> I guess it pays off to wipe the prints off of everything before you launch
2017-09-12T15:31:39 < Steffanx> and some others just want to have a dildo up there -_-
2017-09-12T15:32:19 < jadew> Steffanx, pretty sure they wouldn't beat the record
2017-09-12T15:32:27 < zyp> recovery seems like the fun part, but I'm not sure how easy that would be over here
2017-09-12T15:32:37 < zyp> norway has a lot of hardly accessible area
2017-09-12T15:32:38 < jadew> most likely the highest altitude dildo was taken on the space station
2017-09-12T15:32:54 < jadew> zyp, yeah, that's the case here as well
2017-09-12T15:33:35 < jadew> I suppose that if you had controll over the altitude, you could "drive" it to a more accessible location
2017-09-12T15:34:13 < zyp> I mean, much of norway is coast with a bit of inhabited area between the sea and mountains
2017-09-12T15:34:30 < Laurenceb> jadew: for me the fun part was taking photos
2017-09-12T15:34:37 < Laurenceb> but this was back in 2007-2010
2017-09-12T15:34:52 < Laurenceb> its been done now, I built a glider in 2011
2017-09-12T15:35:24 < Laurenceb> atm I'm occasionally working on a 100km balloon launched rocket, but have v little free time
2017-09-12T15:35:35 < Laurenceb> fest: you know someone working on 100km rocket?
2017-09-12T15:35:54 < fest> yeah, baloon launched one
2017-09-12T15:36:11 < Laurenceb> oh cool, do they have a site?
2017-09-12T15:36:59 < fest> there's local media coverage but no technical details in english :(
2017-09-12T15:37:40 < fest> he's using off the shelf motors and is currently testing them from ground
2017-09-12T15:37:53 < Laurenceb> ah I'm using the same approach
2017-09-12T15:37:54 < fest> last launch hit ~1.9km altitude
2017-09-12T15:38:03 < Laurenceb> 99% of the work if keeping it upright
2017-09-12T15:38:06 < Laurenceb> *is
2017-09-12T15:38:10 < Laurenceb> not bad
2017-09-12T15:38:17 < jadew> Laurenceb, isn't that easy?
2017-09-12T15:38:27 < Laurenceb> not at altitude
2017-09-12T15:38:40 < Laurenceb> there isnt enough air for fins to work
2017-09-12T15:38:49 < jadew> ah, interesting
2017-09-12T15:38:54 < Laurenceb> everything else is kind of trivially simple
2017-09-12T15:38:58 < jadew> perhaps you can use something like SpaceX does?
2017-09-12T15:39:04 < jadew> where they release that gas on the sides?
2017-09-12T15:39:28 < fest> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1839581756058658&set=a.604064632943716.150808.100000205552887&type=3&theater
2017-09-12T15:40:27 < fest> there's some more pics to the right from this one (hopefully visible when not logged in)
2017-09-12T15:41:14 < Laurenceb> looks like regular hobby rocket to me
2017-09-12T15:41:26 < Laurenceb> not sure how thats going to work at altitude tbh
2017-09-12T15:41:56 < fest> yeah, I haven't heard him discuss the guidance problems
2017-09-12T15:42:25 < fest> I guess he just hopes it will take off straight but I might be wrong on this one
2017-09-12T15:42:45 < Laurenceb> _might_
2017-09-12T15:42:54 < Laurenceb> its going to fly around like spaghetti
2017-09-12T15:43:32 < fest> anyway, he has a launch deadline November this year and there's no guidance on currently tested rockets
2017-09-12T15:48:45 < jadew> Laurenceb, do you not have control over the nozzle?
2017-09-12T15:48:52 < Laurenceb> no
2017-09-12T15:49:05 < Laurenceb> there is no mass budget for anything like that
2017-09-12T15:49:16 < jadew> I see
2017-09-12T15:49:26 < Laurenceb> also no actuators are fast enough for that to work on a small rocket
2017-09-12T15:50:04 < Laurenceb> https://gfycat.com/SaneVengefulKakarikis
2017-09-12T15:50:04 < karlp> so make a BIG rocket :)
2017-09-12T15:50:08 < Laurenceb> my experiments
2017-09-12T15:51:42 < Laurenceb> suffered from igniter jammed in the back
2017-09-12T15:52:00 < Laurenceb> but even that was good enough to get to ~70km
2017-09-12T15:52:24 < englishman> cool
2017-09-12T15:53:31 < Laurenceb> i neglected the fact that igniters are made from ~2mm steel wire in my modelling
2017-09-12T15:53:43 < Laurenceb> they dont just get out of the way neatly
2017-09-12T15:54:12 < BrainDamage> can't you track orientation and fire the rocket when it's roughly in the right dir?
2017-09-12T15:54:26 < zyp> it's not about direction, it's about stability
2017-09-12T15:54:36 < Laurenceb> no need, its easy to get +-5 degree pointing on a balloon
2017-09-12T15:54:40 < Laurenceb> what zyp said
2017-09-12T15:54:59 < sync> I doubt that there are no actuators that can steer a small rocket accurately
2017-09-12T15:55:04 < Laurenceb> people have got <1 degree rms wobble on balloons with a low ascent velocity and some damping
2017-09-12T15:55:16 < Laurenceb> sync: yeah but within mass and power budget
2017-09-12T15:55:24 < Laurenceb> where it all has to fit into <4 grams
2017-09-12T15:55:37 < jadew> yeah, I was thinking the same, and you don't even need intermediary states
2017-09-12T15:55:40 < jadew> just on and off
2017-09-12T15:55:49 < sync> doesn't sound unreasonable
2017-09-12T15:56:02 < sync> but why is your mass budget so small? make the rocket lighter
2017-09-12T15:56:07 < zyp> without aerodynamic stability, if you don't apply thrust exactly at center of mass, it'll apply torque as well
2017-09-12T15:56:14 < Laurenceb> synbc: wut
2017-09-12T15:56:20 < Laurenceb> lurn 2 rocket equation
2017-09-12T15:56:46 < Laurenceb> also the rocket is so small because thats part of the concept
2017-09-12T15:56:57 < Laurenceb> prove that its possible to get to 100km with a small rocket
2017-09-12T15:57:10 < Laurenceb> anyone can launch a multi 100kg rocket to 100km
2017-09-12T15:57:26 < sync> yeah, but you can increase your mass budget by making the rest lighter
2017-09-12T15:57:56 < zyp> I would think the rest is already as light at is can be for structural integrity
2017-09-12T15:58:00 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-09-12T15:58:08 < sync> I doubt that
2017-09-12T15:58:33 < Laurenceb> well I could redo it with CF tube and ablative liner, but its supposed to be simple
2017-09-12T15:58:59 < Laurenceb> the concept was : demonstrate 100km with as simple and low cost hardware as possible
2017-09-12T15:59:05 < jadew> Laurenceb, is the limitation the fact that you're using off the shelf engines?
2017-09-12T15:59:15 < jadew> (which dictate the size)
2017-09-12T15:59:41 < sync> huh, where would the ablative liner come into play? I don't think you get that much heating to be a problem
2017-09-12T16:00:17 < Laurenceb> sync: around the fuel
2017-09-12T16:00:25 < Laurenceb> rather than an off the shelf casing
2017-09-12T16:00:50 < Laurenceb> jadew: off the shelf limits the mass fraction, but there is a nice range of sizes available
2017-09-12T16:00:51 < sync> hmm, not sure if it needs that
2017-09-12T16:01:15 < Laurenceb> you need a liner to stop the fuel burning through the case
2017-09-12T16:01:18 < sync> but yeah a 2 ply cf tube would be ok
2017-09-12T16:01:26 < Laurenceb> maybe...
2017-09-12T16:01:43 < Laurenceb> custom motors is something I wanted to avoid
2017-09-12T16:02:43 < sync> it is expendable anyway, a very thin stainless cup will prevent burnthrough, possibly CF alone will be enough
2017-09-12T16:02:58 < Laurenceb> wut
2017-09-12T16:03:15 < BrainDamage> btw, is the tracker on the ground or on the balloon?
2017-09-12T16:03:21 < sync> or just C-SiC
2017-09-12T16:03:25 < Laurenceb> the internal temperature is about 2500K, stainless steel wont help
2017-09-12T16:03:35 < sync> yeah but that is not the external temperature
2017-09-12T16:03:41 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage: CW tracker on the tip of the rocket
2017-09-12T16:03:56 < BrainDamage> and the rx on the ground?
2017-09-12T16:03:59 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-09-12T16:04:34 < BrainDamage> do you integrate doppler for the ranging?
2017-09-12T16:04:53 < BrainDamage> or do you have multiple rx?
2017-09-12T16:05:35 < Laurenceb> dual rx and integrated doppler
2017-09-12T16:05:39 < Laurenceb> code is on github
2017-09-12T16:06:00 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/DopplerFitting
2017-09-12T16:06:10 < BrainDamage> k, thanks
2017-09-12T16:06:14 < Laurenceb> needs some alignment tools adding, I'll get round to it... soon
2017-09-12T16:07:35 < Laurenceb> Ground_Tracking stuff runs at each groundstation (>=2 groundstations)
2017-09-12T16:07:45 < Laurenceb> Inversion stuff runs centrally
2017-09-12T16:08:02 < Laurenceb> I need to do some more work on that to handle misaligned receiver stations
2017-09-12T16:09:09 < Laurenceb> as you add more ground stations it becomes more stable, but 2 stations works >95% of the time if there is significant north-south spacing between receivers
2017-09-12T16:09:49 < zyp> why not east-west?
2017-09-12T16:10:19 < BrainDamage> ineedasourcecodeformatterformatlab
2017-09-12T16:11:06 < BrainDamage> i bet your spacebar has no usage marks :P
2017-09-12T16:11:17 < sync> oh god, dat codez
2017-09-12T16:11:48 < Laurenceb> zyp: its related to the Coriolis effect
2017-09-12T16:12:26 < zyp> wat
2017-09-12T16:13:10 < Laurenceb> the rocket doesnt rotate with the earth beneath it
2017-09-12T16:13:26 < Laurenceb> it just starts with some horizontal velocity due to earth rotation
2017-09-12T16:13:33 < Laurenceb> this effects the results
2017-09-12T16:14:19 < BrainDamage> the tangential velocity remains the same as it climbs, it'd need increasing velocity to maintain same angular velocity of earth as it climbs
2017-09-12T16:15:02 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-09-12T16:15:35 < BrainDamage> and i guess atmosphere drag is less and less as it climbs, so very little lateral action
2017-09-12T16:16:04 < Laurenceb> this is all captured by the model, but for some reason inversion is more stable with significant north-south spacing between stations
2017-09-12T16:16:16 < Laurenceb> apparently as a result of this effect
2017-09-12T16:16:23 < zyp> oh, just to keep the ground track normal to the line between the receivers rather than parallel to it
2017-09-12T16:16:36 < Laurenceb> yeah pretty much
2017-09-12T16:17:08 < Laurenceb> it doesnt actually matter where the stations are very much, just as long as one is > ~50km further north than the other
2017-09-12T16:19:18 < Laurenceb> sync: u should see uni projects, pretty much 100% matlab
2017-09-12T16:21:25 < zyp> Laurenceb, I'm not looking at the code, but are you doing anything more fancy than doppler ranging and trilateration?
2017-09-12T16:21:53 < Laurenceb> differential doppler ranging and trajectory fitting
2017-09-12T16:22:02 < Laurenceb> so only slightly more fancy :P
2017-09-12T16:22:10 < zyp> how does it differ?
2017-09-12T16:22:33 < sync> yes Laurenceb, and I hate them all for that
2017-09-12T16:23:07 < Laurenceb> zyp: you can get away with only 2 stations and use a poor stability tx clock source
2017-09-12T16:23:58 < BrainDamage> are the rx's phase synced?
2017-09-12T16:24:16 < zyp> ah, yeah, differential doppler would compensate for tx clock drift
2017-09-12T16:24:53 < zyp> or, uh, I'm still not sure how that works
2017-09-12T16:25:27 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage: yeah, this application is what LeoNTP was built for
2017-09-12T16:26:53 < sync> > specsheet written in word
2017-09-12T16:27:00 < sync> 3/10 would probably not buy
2017-09-12T16:27:45 < BrainDamage> pff, my startup colleagues send me links in powerpoint presentation inside emails
2017-09-12T16:27:59 < BrainDamage> you don't know what's pain
2017-09-12T16:29:41 < sync> I have used a few csac units for that application, they are nice
2017-09-12T16:38:47 < Laurenceb>  http://imgur.com/a/DHdkj
2017-09-12T16:42:09 < Laurenceb> thats what gets glued onto the front
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2017-09-12T17:10:53 < Laurenceb> https://21stcenturyasianarmsrace.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/chinese-type-63-multi-rocket-launcher-on-a-toyota.jpg
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2017-09-12T17:11:00 < Laurenceb> another way to do it
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2017-09-12T17:25:04 < sync> oh interesting
2017-09-12T17:25:16 < sync> it is spin stabilized with nozzles
2017-09-12T17:25:40 < kakimir> new toyota promotional material
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2017-09-12T17:25:56 < sync> well hilux = light tank
2017-09-12T17:26:38 < kakimir> it's more of a tractor than a sedan
2017-09-12T17:27:07 < kakimir> at least hiace
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2017-09-12T18:13:33 < karlp> https://asciinema.org/a/Qf9rJtGtDJqDEKfKVpK2angkj
2017-09-12T18:19:13 < malinus> wow profiling on stm32?
2017-09-12T18:20:19 < karlp> openocd and just do "profile 2 blah.out" will dump 2 seconds of profiling, and you can then just run "gprof blah.out yourblah.elf" too, if you've got this patch: http://openocd.zylin.com/#/c/4211/
2017-09-12T18:20:41 < karlp> that asciinema is using swo to capture dwt pc sampling
2017-09-12T18:21:59 < zyp> nice
2017-09-12T18:22:01 < malinus> I don't even know why I'm using stlink instead
2017-09-12T18:22:15 < malinus> did openocd have problems with the ST-LINK V2 copies?
2017-09-12T18:22:33 < BrainDamage> oh cool, if gprof works this might interest you too: https://github.com/jrfonseca/gprof2dot
2017-09-12T18:22:45 < Steffanx> cool, karlp.
2017-09-12T18:22:50 < BrainDamage> you get a nice call graph out of gprof dumps
2017-09-12T18:26:09 < karlp> welllll
2017-09-12T18:26:38 < karlp> gprof actually has three sorts of data in it, caller/callee stuff (which I prsume makes the call graphs) and histograms (which is all openocd's gprof output makes)
2017-09-12T18:26:47 < karlp> and then some other sort of data I don't remember
2017-09-12T18:27:13 < BrainDamage> oh, so you only include statistical sampling information
2017-09-12T18:27:18 < BrainDamage> not call direction
2017-09-12T18:27:31 < BrainDamage> yeah, then it won't work
2017-09-12T18:28:48 < karlp> well, it's based on the cortex-m pc sampling register, yes.
2017-09-12T18:28:52 < zyp> can't you use DWT to trace branches?
2017-09-12T18:28:58 < karlp> yes, but that's swo only.
2017-09-12T18:29:17 < zyp> yeah?
2017-09-12T18:29:28 < karlp> that openocd patch is to make "profile" use the pc sampling register to get pretty great, but not as awesome as branch tracing, but without the swo pin at all.
2017-09-12T18:29:40 < karlp> you can then _also_ use swo pin and dwt to get branch tracing,
2017-09-12T18:29:42 < zyp> ah
2017-09-12T18:29:47 < karlp> and that could do all sorts of things indeed,
2017-09-12T18:30:23 < karlp> there's nothing in openocd to get it as a live view though, you have to take a static chunk of pc sampling and then run gprof.
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2017-09-12T20:00:44 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKOGlTLUtXZVMxUWs/view?usp=sharing
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2017-09-12T20:38:11 < jadew> kakimir, what's that for?
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2017-09-12T22:34:58 < ohsix> http://blog.rectorsquid.com/linkage-mechanism-designer-and-simulator/
2017-09-12T22:35:18 < ohsix> nothing solvespace/fusion360/solidworks doesn't do, but neat
2017-09-12T22:36:04 < aandrew> that's fucking cool
2017-09-12T22:42:12 < Steffanx> windows, ribbon, must be pro-ware
2017-09-12T22:43:01 < karlp> has a ribbon, claims tto be modeless and not need mouse tool changes?
2017-09-12T22:47:50 < jadew> I have to start learning FreeCAD
2017-09-12T22:48:04 < jadew> solvespace doesn't do a lot of stuff
2017-09-12T22:48:34 < Laurenceb__> >be me
2017-09-12T22:48:34 < Laurenceb__> >lose access to lunix server running inside NHS building
2017-09-12T22:48:34 < Laurenceb__> >eventually visit cabinate to find out wtf is going on
2017-09-12T22:48:34 < Laurenceb__> >no server, post-in in rack saying that machine was moved to room T20
2017-09-12T22:48:34 < Laurenceb__> >go to room T20, it's IT support room "no your hardware isn't here, do you have a ticket on the system?, if not we can't help"
2017-09-12T22:48:37 < Laurenceb__> >they enter a ticket anyway,Iget automated email
2017-09-12T22:48:39 < Laurenceb__> >notice my server is still alive somewhere, and backing up shit automatically
2017-09-12T22:48:41 < Laurenceb__> >lookup ip address of server, it is the same as the one my email was sent from
2017-09-12T22:48:42 < jadew> and the original author stopped working on it IIRC
2017-09-12T22:48:43 < Laurenceb__> >IT guys have stolen my server and are using it to run their ticket system
2017-09-12T22:50:02 < jadew> must have been an important server
2017-09-12T22:50:36 < Steffanx> and fake 4chan story?
2017-09-12T22:51:19 < jadew> Steffanx, I think it's actually his server
2017-09-12T22:51:22 < jadew> isn't it Laurenceb__?
2017-09-12T22:51:34 < Laurenceb__> yes,it's what I spent today doing
2017-09-12T22:51:34 < Steffanx> > looks like for 4 cha nto me
2017-09-12T22:51:50 < Steffanx> or did you 4chanify the message? :D
2017-09-12T22:51:51 < jadew> Steffanx, he is 4chan too
2017-09-12T22:52:08 < jadew> half the people on 4chan are Laurenceb__
2017-09-12T22:52:29 < Laurenceb__> correct
2017-09-12T22:52:52 < Laurenceb__> the server ran my 4chan bots
2017-09-12T22:55:13 < englishman> nice opsec there
2017-09-12T22:57:46 < Steffanx> i should still report a security issue to the british privacy protection agency.
2017-09-12T22:58:00 < Steffanx> Laurenceb__ having acess to the entire network of some hospital is just bullshit
2017-09-12T22:58:45 < jadew> Steffanx, as you can see, he doesn't even has access to his server :P
2017-09-12T22:58:53 < Steffanx> not anymore no
2017-09-12T22:59:12 < Steffanx> question is how the sys admin got into his server
2017-09-12T22:59:31 < Laurenceb__> yeah I'm confused too
2017-09-12T22:59:35 < Steffanx> user: root, password: none ?
2017-09-12T22:59:39 < Laurenceb__> they had created a new account
2017-09-12T22:59:57 < jadew> you can bypass the password if you have physical access to it
2017-09-12T23:00:06 < Laurenceb__> ah
2017-09-12T23:00:06 < jadew> you can pass some parameters to the boot loader
2017-09-12T23:01:02 < Laurenceb__> Steffanx: I don't have access to entire hospital network, I have access to entire UK hospitals and clinics network :P
2017-09-12T23:01:13 < Laurenceb__> no wonder they had virus problems
2017-09-12T23:01:16 < Steffanx> damn, its even worse.
2017-09-12T23:01:42 < Laurenceb__> in fact  90% of PCs can see 90% of everything else on their network
2017-09-12T23:02:20 < Laurenceb__> firing up ubuntu and clicking "list network printers" is amusing
2017-09-12T23:06:28 < Steffanx> remind my of my uni where you get into the printer server and retrieve the printed documents. Exams included.
2017-09-12T23:06:43 < jadew> hah, nice
2017-09-12T23:06:55 < Steffanx> data was stored in some weird format, but someone made a reader :
2017-09-12T23:06:56 < Steffanx> d
2017-09-12T23:07:15 < jadew> high motivation
2017-09-12T23:09:52 < jadew> where do you guys buy LED light bulbs from?
2017-09-12T23:10:03 < jadew> local shops or online?
2017-09-12T23:10:08 < Steffanx> ikea? and make your house smarter
2017-09-12T23:10:39 < jadew> smarter how?
2017-09-12T23:13:19 < Steffanx> that make some "smart lighting" nowadays
2017-09-12T23:13:27 < Steffanx> *lights
2017-09-12T23:13:27 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/aMeM4Gp
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2017-09-12T23:14:03 < jadew> Steffanx, like remote controlled?
2017-09-12T23:14:08 < Steffanx> yes
2017-09-12T23:14:31 < jadew> unless they have high CRI I'm not inclined to touch them
2017-09-12T23:14:42 < Steffanx> and dimmed and Color Temperature etc
2017-09-12T23:15:00 < jadew> the only light bulb that came close to my halogen light bulbs is a 1500 lumen philips one
2017-09-12T23:15:08 < jadew> but it's a bit warmer than I'd like
2017-09-12T23:15:34 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, I'd like to be able to change the color temperature, but I bet that comes at the cost of CRI
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2017-09-12T23:16:38 < Laurenceb__> attn kakimir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV1rN0mQRWM
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2017-09-12T23:56:26 < Laurenceb__> https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/09/12/0532214/boffins-fear-we-might-be-running-out-of-ideas
2017-09-12T23:56:35 < Laurenceb__> come on, we need some innovation
2017-09-12T23:59:35 < englishman> https://www.armis.com/blueborne/
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2017-09-13T00:22:08 < jadew> englishman, is that an actual vulnerability?
2017-09-13T00:23:14 < englishman> looks legit to me, no?
2017-09-13T00:23:25 < jadew> smells like bullshit
2017-09-13T00:23:39 < jadew> http://go.armis.com/hubfs/BlueBorne%20Technical%20White%20Paper.pdf?t=1505222709963
2017-09-13T00:25:13 < jadew> I guess that's the umbrella name for "what may happen"
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2017-09-13T00:26:00 < jadew> they list a couple of vulnerabilities in that document, but I don't think they found any way of doing what they claim on that page
2017-09-13T00:26:20 < jadew> probably most of those vulnerabilities require pairing
2017-09-13T00:30:11 < Steffanx> they did publish some vids of them doing it jadew
2017-09-13T00:30:20 < jadew> unpaired?
2017-09-13T00:30:23 < Steffanx> not sure if that is enough proof for you though
2017-09-13T00:30:39 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOA7EJ3QIE9b7J3WDTO2iFw
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2017-09-13T01:07:27 < englishman> anyone done rigidflex in altidumb
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2017-09-13T01:09:37 < karlp> newspeak much?
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2017-09-13T01:21:24 < Steffanx> nein
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2017-09-13T01:46:31 < englishman> ?
2017-09-13T01:50:08 < karlp> rigid flex
2017-09-13T01:50:21 < Laurenceb__> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJiA-6cX0AA7aZv.jpg:large
2017-09-13T01:50:31 < Laurenceb__> when 4chan trolls uk parliament
2017-09-13T01:50:49 < Laurenceb__> englishman: I've done it in eagle :P
2017-09-13T01:52:30 < englishman> karlp: its a real thing
2017-09-13T01:53:06 < Laurenceb__> I've had 0.25mm PA stiffeners cut with Nd:YAG laser
2017-09-13T01:53:10 < englishman> Laurent do you just give them gerbs for copper, cover opening and rigid outline or what
2017-09-13T01:53:17 < Laurenceb__> not sure if that counts as rigid
2017-09-13T01:53:36 < englishman> I need both rigid and zif stiffeners
2017-09-13T01:53:38 < Laurenceb__> yeah it was like a regular pcb gerber set, but with an extra outline
2017-09-13T01:53:48 < karlp> englishman: still newspeak
2017-09-13T01:53:52 < Laurenceb__> got it done by one of the chinese places, seeed or something
2017-09-13T01:54:11 < Laurenceb__> yeah my stiffener stuff was zif like
2017-09-13T01:54:15 < englishman> karlp: lies
2017-09-13T01:54:38 < Laurenceb__> I'm not sure what process is used for FR4 stiffener
2017-09-13T01:54:50 < englishman> pretty sure its just glued on
2017-09-13T01:54:58 < Laurenceb__> yeah prob manual lol
2017-09-13T01:55:15 < englishman> well probably in a jig
2017-09-13T01:55:28 < Laurenceb__> my stiffeners were laser cut from a panel with some small tabs left to hold them
2017-09-13T01:55:44 < Laurenceb__> then stenciled adhesive and whole assembly pressed
2017-09-13T01:56:01 < Laurenceb__> then excess stiffener panel ripped off
2017-09-13T01:56:57 < Laurenceb__> jigs cost money,you want someone with a laser cutter that can chop through PA, Kapton and stuff
2017-09-13T01:57:44 < Laurenceb__> unless you need like 1k units of course :P
2017-09-13T01:58:32 < Laurenceb__> https://kek.gg/i/5_nVn-.jpg
2017-09-13T02:07:56 < Laurenceb__> https://imagebin.ca/v/3aBPwNaQrVAl
2017-09-13T02:08:01 < Laurenceb__> meanwhile on facebook
2017-09-13T02:14:02 < sklv> hi, i have a nucleo h743zi and i'm trying to get texane stlink to support it
2017-09-13T02:15:25 < sklv> the device id isn't stored at 0xE0042000 and i'm struggling to find the address
2017-09-13T02:16:05 < sklv> i'm looking at p3077 of rm0433
2017-09-13T02:18:51 < Laurenceb__> hmm
2017-09-13T02:18:59 < Laurenceb__> roll back a bit
2017-09-13T02:19:11 < Laurenceb__> what does st-util actually say?
2017-09-13T02:19:30 < karlp> try page 3069
2017-09-13T02:20:18 < karlp> section 60.6 is just a cut down coresight doc
2017-09-13T02:23:17 < Laurenceb__> englishman: https://imagebin.ca/v/3aBUQsUeSr4a
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2017-09-13T02:31:59 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7177163c83/43318.jpg
2017-09-13T02:32:22 < Laurenceb__> in murica u can shitpost with ur numberplate
2017-09-13T02:34:26 < Laurenceb__> I spoke too soon https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/E185/production/_96733775_wns_290617_jihad_plate_01.jpg
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2017-09-13T03:17:06 < Laurenceb__> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Chinese_rappers
2017-09-13T03:17:16 < Laurenceb__> cucktales ^
2017-09-13T03:17:43 < cucktales> hi stm32laurence
2017-09-13T03:23:10 < Laurenceb__> I spoke too soon https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/E185/production/_96733775_wns_290617_jihad_plate_01.jpg
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2017-09-13T03:34:52 < kakimir> rumor says Laurenceb invented cucking
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2017-09-13T04:30:54 < englishman> Laurenceb__: cool
2017-09-13T04:31:16 < cucktales> good morning englishman
2017-09-13T04:31:59 < englishman> hi curt
2017-09-13T04:35:38 < cucktales> thank
2017-09-13T04:44:17 < dongs> hello doges
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2017-09-13T04:56:59 < cucktales> dogesix
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2017-09-13T06:21:50 < classicpumper> hmm
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2017-09-13T06:43:56 < machinehum> Then you can get sued for patent infringement?
2017-09-13T06:44:19 < machinehum> I mean how old is the patent?
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2017-09-13T06:51:35 < machinehum> mmmmmm
2017-09-13T06:51:50 < machinehum> Pretty new, if it's realy old I would have said don't worry
2017-09-13T06:54:15 < machinehum> Patent troll
2017-09-13T06:54:43 < machinehum> Maybe it's possible to build something marginally different?
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2017-09-13T08:12:58 < dongs> we're all kinda busy innovating
2017-09-13T08:16:26 < dongs> its all patented
2017-09-13T08:16:27 < dongs> so i cant tell
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2017-09-13T08:25:59 < dongs> lies
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2017-09-13T08:34:01 < dongs> lol
2017-09-13T08:34:06 < dongs> it might have been real
2017-09-13T08:34:07 < dongs> and hilarious
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2017-09-13T08:39:34 < dongs> CRT was blogging
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2017-09-13T08:58:13 < dongs> arent all DJs poor fucks
2017-09-13T08:58:18 < dongs> by definition of htier job
2017-09-13T09:01:23 < dongs> R2COM: https://web.archive.org/web/20061008061453/http://pepper.idge.net/gnaa/gnaa-ymca.txt
2017-09-13T09:02:00 < ohsix> you get paid in trim
2017-09-13T09:03:39 < ohsix> jadew: like what? (and the author is still working on it)
2017-09-13T09:03:43 < ohsix> authors
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2017-09-13T09:29:48 < dongs> 1-800-LOL-JEWS
2017-09-13T09:31:55 < dongs> 0U01
2017-09-13T09:32:01 < dongs> nice fucking capacitor labeling on schematic
2017-09-13T09:32:03 < dongs> orcad faggots
2017-09-13T09:32:19 < dongs> o fuck theres more
2017-09-13T09:32:20 < dongs> 0U001
2017-09-13T09:32:21 < dongs> etc
2017-09-13T09:38:35 < dongs> Products: 0805 High Bright Pink LED
2017-09-13T09:39:13 < zyp> kawaii leds
2017-09-13T09:39:29 < dongs> yes
2017-09-13T09:41:46 < dongs> found a gr8 altera appnote for my lvds stuff. furiosuly copypasting schematic
2017-09-13T09:41:52 < dongs> ready2innovate
2017-09-13T09:46:07 < dongs> ordering a reel of pink leds
2017-09-13T09:47:42 < dongs> TI is all about boosterpacks these days
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2017-09-13T10:25:15 < malinus> good good, buy the newest gadget. yes yes!!!
2017-09-13T10:25:18  * malinus grinds hands
2017-09-13T10:25:19 < sklv> hi, i have a nucleo h743zi and i'd like to be able to flash it with stlink but can't because it's not supported. I'm tryng to add support but failing at the first step which is to get the chipid
2017-09-13T10:25:56 < sklv> malinus: actually I didn't buy it, a friend got it as a sample
2017-09-13T10:26:23 < malinus> sklv: I was talking to R2COM :)
2017-09-13T10:26:42 < sklv> the address I think contains it, 0xE00FE008, has value 0xfff45003
2017-09-13T10:26:45 < sklv> malinus: sorry my bad
2017-09-13T10:27:07 < malinus> kakimir: how can "stlink not be supported"?
2017-09-13T10:27:18 < malinus> kakimir: supported by what exactly?
2017-09-13T10:27:51 < malinus> kakimir: the h743zi has the stlink build in. You don't even need to connect anyhting. Just the usb and ItJustWerks®©
2017-09-13T10:28:00 < dongs> < R2COM> but iPhone X is 2k pixels
2017-09-13T10:28:01 < dongs> 2k whats
2017-09-13T10:28:07 < dongs> lol @ apple innovation
2017-09-13T10:28:13 < dongs> my shitsung S6 had 2560x1440 screen
2017-09-13T10:28:15 < dongs> like 3 years ago
2017-09-13T10:28:22 < dongs> apple trash is still 2100x1125 or someshti
2017-09-13T10:28:24 < dongs> yeah, useless
2017-09-13T10:28:26 < malinus> lol
2017-09-13T10:29:32 < malinus> my gf has a iphone, it's so amusing to see that the same app for iphone is just the android app with 50% the features. Always makes me laugh
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2017-09-13T10:55:34 < ohsix> TheSeven: jquery something broke the ali search userscript
2017-09-13T11:05:55 < dongs> fact is, youre a fucking faggot
2017-09-13T11:09:56 < dongs> https://gfycat.com/MammothAnimatedArmyant
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2017-09-13T11:43:51 < Steffanx> Youre out of the shop early, lately mr stvn
2017-09-13T11:44:00 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-13T11:44:24 < stvn> more time to call the GNAA
2017-09-13T11:44:40 < Steffanx> Your repairs are so good they dont have to come back?
2017-09-13T11:45:48 < Steffanx> If aussieland wasnt in such a different timezone i would have called thr autism hotline and ask for stvn, like englishlad did
2017-09-13T11:46:02 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-13T11:46:05 < stvn> that'd be good
2017-09-13T11:48:21 < Steffanx> :)
2017-09-13T11:48:57 < stvn> what else is new mr.stffn
2017-09-13T11:49:44 < Steffanx> Nothin mate
2017-09-13T11:50:15 < Steffanx> Waiting for this mouser shipment to arrive
2017-09-13T11:51:14 < stvn> same actually
2017-09-13T11:57:40 < ohsix> bbbballls
2017-09-13T11:58:06 < ohsix> is there a tiny library that just does dh and some public key stuff
2017-09-13T11:58:37 < ohsix> need to learn some of that shit and that's the minimum i need to do it, for privacy and device specialization (~client certs)
2017-09-13T11:59:38 < dongs> shiny knobs
2017-09-13T12:01:04 < ohsix> hrm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_TLS_implementations
2017-09-13T12:03:49 < fest> I've used libtomcrypt on stm's but I only needed symmetric cipher
2017-09-13T12:04:30 < dongs> why would you suddenly say that
2017-09-13T12:04:53 < dongs> is there autism in progress
2017-09-13T12:04:56 < fest> discoursing with people on your /ignore :)
2017-09-13T12:04:58 < fest> yep
2017-09-13T12:06:49 < dongs> you won't get very far
2017-09-13T12:06:55 < karlp> malinus: that yoyo with the h7 is using texane/stlink, and didn't respond to the last time they were offered help.
2017-09-13T12:08:19 < malinus> karlp: ah, oh well.
2017-09-13T12:09:35 < ohsix> i thought that was basically dead, or only used to reset some junk openocd wouldn't do
2017-09-13T12:10:10 < ohsix> https://libgen.pw/view.php?id=1038563 heh there's a whole book
2017-09-13T12:12:02 < karlp> ohsix: some people still use it for some reason.  it is a substantialy smaller code base for hacking compared to openocd
2017-09-13T12:17:36 < dongs> why doesnt everyone just use jlinkgdbserver is the real question
2017-09-13T12:17:40 < dongs> if you HAVE to deal with opensores trash
2017-09-13T12:22:59 < Steffanx> because it requires you to buy a jlink?
2017-09-13T12:23:06 < dongs> yes and?
2017-09-13T12:23:11 < Steffanx> $$$
2017-09-13T12:23:11 < ohsix> i used it for a tiny bit, openocd looked like more work
2017-09-13T12:23:13 < dongs> you might as well buy a professional debug probe
2017-09-13T12:23:19 < dongs> no, edu is $50 or wahtever.
2017-09-13T12:23:21 < Steffanx> but yeah for some a edu version is enough :P
2017-09-13T12:23:33 < Steffanx> some wont use it commercially anyway :P
2017-09-13T12:25:56 < ohsix> moving onto openocd was really helped by it not working
2017-09-13T12:27:29 < karlp> helpful.
2017-09-13T12:28:34 < dongs> so uh
2017-09-13T12:28:37 < dongs> i think i asked this before
2017-09-13T12:28:49 < dongs> how should I go about reading manchester stuff
2017-09-13T12:28:51 < malinus> I still can't figure out if openocd even supports stlink V2
2017-09-13T12:28:51 < dongs>  should I jsut ghetto SPI for it
2017-09-13T12:28:54 < dongs> or a timer
2017-09-13T12:28:56 < Steffanx> damnit, why i still get triggered by this closed sores trolling.
2017-09-13T12:29:35 < Steffanx>  /join #openocd they know stuff like that malinus. and ofcourse it does.
2017-09-13T12:29:49 < zyp> hrm, this TI debugger shit has errors in the memory map
2017-09-13T12:30:10 < zyp> it only covers half the ethernet block, which means that the debugger refuses to read the other half of the registers
2017-09-13T12:31:14 < zyp> found it and fixed it, but it's pretty fucking annoying
2017-09-13T12:31:31 < malinus> Steffanx: yeah people keep trolling in here. There was a iphone troll in here a few hours ago
2017-09-13T12:32:01 < Steffanx> lol, you know you should have mr aretoocommie on ignore right?
2017-09-13T12:32:22 < Steffanx> Channel policy.
2017-09-13T12:33:24 < malinus> Steffanx: ah R2COM :)
2017-09-13T12:33:44 < karlp> malinus: umm, of course oocd supports stlink v2.  v2 is what was on on _every_ board apart from the original vl discovery.
2017-09-13T12:34:12 < dongs> karlp: yeah except you have to hand-edit some .cfg shits
2017-09-13T12:34:20 < dongs> to actually make openaids connect to v2 usb id
2017-09-13T12:34:22 < karlp> no...
2017-09-13T12:34:25 < dongs> yes?
2017-09-13T12:34:31 < dongs> i installed that SW4STM32 shit
2017-09-13T12:34:35 < dongs> and it didnt connect
2017-09-13T12:34:39 < dongs> had to fuck with some cfg
2017-09-13T12:34:40 < karlp> for a while you had to use -f stlink-v2.cfg instead of stlink-v1.cfg
2017-09-13T12:34:58 < karlp> and then for a while ther ewas -f stlink-v2-1.cfg for the _really_ new stlinks, which youy guys might hve been calling v2.
2017-09-13T12:35:07 < dongs> oh yeah
2017-09-13T12:35:09 < dongs> thats it
2017-09-13T12:35:15 < dongs> USB id changed tehre too
2017-09-13T12:35:22 < karlp> and that was kinda dumb yeah, but paul fixed that too.
2017-09-13T12:35:24 < malinus> what about my chinese stlinkV2 copy?
2017-09-13T12:35:24 < dongs> i had to edit -v2 cfg to add -v2-1 usb id
2017-09-13T12:35:39 < karlp> so now it's just -f stlink.cfg and it has all the usb ids known and switches between them
2017-09-13T12:35:50 < karlp> malinus: if it's a copy, how would openocd/anyone know?
2017-09-13T12:36:38 < malinus> the same way texane/stlink knows?
2017-09-13T12:37:27 < zyp> haha, wat
2017-09-13T12:37:46 < zyp> this fucking shit stores mac addrs backwards
2017-09-13T12:38:18 < zyp> aa-bb-cc-dd-ee-ff is passed as {0xff, 0xee, 0xdd, 0xcc, 0xbb, 0xaa} to the TI HAL
2017-09-13T12:40:21 < zyp> "The array[0] shall be the LSB of the MAC address"
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2017-09-13T12:49:04 < Steffanx> hah
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2017-09-13T12:53:25 < dongs> https://github.com/MarkDing/Manchester-BMC
2017-09-13T12:53:26 < dongs> huh
2017-09-13T12:53:31 < dongs> EFM8 has 'configurable logic'
2017-09-13T12:53:41 < dongs> where you can insert and/xor/etc gates into the pins
2017-09-13T12:53:46 < dongs> and route them to other shit after
2017-09-13T12:54:10 < dongs> https://camo.githubusercontent.com/fdf39f1b6d2e816013075ebbb2fa50becf34a3ed/68747470733a2f2f7261772e6769746875622e636f6d2f4d61726b44696e672f4d616e636865737465722d424d432f6d61737465722f696d616765732f4d616e636865737465722d656e636f6465722d434c552e706e67
2017-09-13T12:54:14 < dongs> nice link
2017-09-13T12:55:30 < dongs> wait i cant do SPI for receive because i dont have clock timing
2017-09-13T12:55:40 < dongs> so receive could be with timer like those guys do and transmit, with SPI + XOR
2017-09-13T12:56:42 < dongs> except SPI prescalers are a bit trash
2017-09-13T12:56:50 < dongs> maybe uart + uart_ck is better
2017-09-13T12:57:06 < dongs> but that doesnt let me send arbtirary sequences of stuff
2017-09-13T12:57:10 < dongs> will have start/stop/aids bits
2017-09-13T12:57:51 < dongs> i geuss i could clock SPI from timer
2017-09-13T12:57:51 < karlp> something else I saw had those config logic pins, maybe new atmel sam shit?
2017-09-13T12:58:16 < dongs> and run it in slave mode, but have nothing to transmit and only receive bits'
2017-09-13T12:58:27 < dongs> possibly, STM is gettting a bit behind the game here
2017-09-13T12:58:42 < dongs> i wouldnt mind having some logic cells aroudn teh IO matrix
2017-09-13T12:58:47 < dongs> also making it more configurable would be nice
2017-09-13T12:58:57 < dongs> shit like nRF you can remap any pin to any IO
2017-09-13T12:59:04 < dongs> EFM8/32, too i think
2017-09-13T12:59:24 < dongs> er any function->any IO
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2017-09-13T13:59:16 < Laurenceb__> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJj_7qJXcAIUQ86.jpg
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2017-09-13T14:03:05 < kakimir> who is the dude anyways?
2017-09-13T14:04:48 < Laurenceb__> https://www.qarnot.com/qrad/
2017-09-13T14:05:06 < Laurenceb__> https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
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2017-09-13T14:06:27 < dongs> Laurenceb__: they must be buying up all the AMD hardware
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2017-09-13T14:10:56 < Laurenceb__> I hear the news iphone has no homo button
2017-09-13T14:13:13 < dongs> hm so even latest F0's still have power of 2 spi baudrate dividers
2017-09-13T14:13:18 < dongs> looks like im gonna have to clock it off a timer
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2017-09-13T14:19:41 < karlp> is that qrad doing bittcoins for someone else I take it?
2017-09-13T14:19:52 < Laurenceb__> yup
2017-09-13T14:20:09 < karlp> cute
2017-09-13T14:20:39 < dongs> buttcoin space heaters
2017-09-13T14:20:45 < dongs> awesome idea
2017-09-13T14:28:02 < dongs> ok so, if im clocking SPI from a timer to run it in slave mode w/dma or wahtever, my data will be clocked out from MISO pin, yeah?
2017-09-13T14:28:11 < dongs> 'slave out'
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2017-09-13T14:43:09 < zyp> "3 computing units (Intel core i7 @ 4GHz)"
2017-09-13T14:43:14 < zyp> so, not bitcoin
2017-09-13T14:43:27 < zyp> wouldn't be profitable at all
2017-09-13T14:43:58 < karlp> it is when you're not paying for it.
2017-09-13T14:44:07 < karlp> or it's not bitcoin, but some other modern coin they're playing with
2017-09-13T14:44:10 < karlp> what else would it be?
2017-09-13T14:44:50 < zyp> by profitable I mean break even vs. power cost
2017-09-13T14:45:38 < zyp> I'm not sure anything popular is profitable on cpu
2017-09-13T14:47:12 < zyp> I've been tempted to buy a bitcoin miner for heating now that winter is coming
2017-09-13T14:48:03 < zyp> but just breaking even on the purchase price is going to take months at full power
2017-09-13T15:10:04 < karlp> yeah, as always, it's only viable if you're not actually paying al the costs these days
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2017-09-13T15:16:24 < zyp> idk
2017-09-13T15:17:54 < zyp> when I've been running the numbers, break-even after accounting for power costs and difficulty increase seems to be around six months or so
2017-09-13T15:18:31 < dongs> zyp, "power cost" doesnt matter cuz its a hater
2017-09-13T15:18:34 < dongs> er, heater
2017-09-13T15:18:41 < dongs> tho people would need to be able to turn it off
2017-09-13T15:18:43 < dongs> when needed
2017-09-13T15:19:32 < zyp> karlp, what still makes it a bad option is opportunity cost, ROI tends to be higher just buying bitcoin directly than buying equipment for mining bitcoin
2017-09-13T15:19:35 < dongs> zyp, does usart sync mode suport arbitrary data lengthwithout start/stop bits?
2017-09-13T15:19:46 < zyp> dongs, not as far as I remember
2017-09-13T15:19:50 < dongs> hmm
2017-09-13T15:22:02 < zyp> re: power cost for a heater: you're still buying the hardware, which needs to be paid off somehow
2017-09-13T15:22:15 < dongs> right. those things dont look cheap
2017-09-13T15:32:06 < dongs> hmm
2017-09-13T15:32:16 < dongs> so this crap has a unspecified number of bits for "sync" bit
2017-09-13T15:32:31 < dongs> i could recover clock from this
2017-09-13T15:32:38 < dongs> then configure timer to match it
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2017-09-13T15:32:56 < dongs> then just read the real bits with SPI
2017-09-13T15:33:16 < dongs> or should I just DMA timer edge captures and go through it to parse
2017-09-13T15:39:57 < zyp> what are you doing?
2017-09-13T15:41:40 < dongs> revistiing old proj of capturing dp_aux
2017-09-13T15:41:45 < dongs> this time with proper harwdare
2017-09-13T15:41:51 < dongs> and planning on replying as well
2017-09-13T15:41:58 < dongs> so 1mbit manchester
2017-09-13T15:43:22 < zyp> ah
2017-09-13T15:44:01 < dongs> timer dma with parsing later is probly fastest
2017-09-13T15:44:37 < dongs> start timer on exti, it catches whatever transitions then time it out maybe if theres no more transitions
2017-09-13T15:44:46 < dongs> since the message width is variable
2017-09-13T16:03:31 < englishman> zyp: power and hardware cost nothing when you install buttcoin miners on botnets with millions of clients
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2017-09-13T16:06:58 < englishman> if you actually plan on taking this seriously, profitability of small miners even with free power ended long ago. the point now is to pump and dump new coins that are easy to mine and have some hipster feature. They call this ICOs
2017-09-13T16:09:18 < zyp> I'm aware
2017-09-13T16:09:52 < englishman> k k
2017-09-13T16:10:52 < englishman> pretty obtuse way to heat your house imo
2017-09-13T16:11:25 < englishman> though if you had run the numbers it'd be interesting to learn how buttcoin rates vs. installing geothermal, wind etc
2017-09-13T16:13:45 < dongs> the point now is to pump and dump new coins that are easy to mine and have some hipster feature.
2017-09-13T16:13:48 < dongs> lul
2017-09-13T16:13:51 < dongs> im glad i dont care about any of this shit
2017-09-13T16:14:01 < dongs> i jsut heard something something ethermium
2017-09-13T16:14:15 < dongs> and its the reason GPU makers are making connector-less cards with 3 month warranty
2017-09-13T16:14:27 < dongs> meanwhile I cant buy a fucking consumer GTX1050 without a god damn DVI slot
2017-09-13T16:14:30 < dongs> fucking niggers
2017-09-13T16:17:50 < englishman> Hi ---,
2017-09-13T16:17:53 < englishman> Our SMT engineer marked the 1st pin and the polarity on the components.
2017-09-13T16:17:53 < englishman> Please help to double confirm the document.
2017-09-13T16:17:55 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjlHnJvXdQs
2017-09-13T16:18:06 < englishman> literally drew boxes over all the pin 1 markesr that i carefully placed in a draftsman sheet
2017-09-13T16:18:07 < englishman> wtf man
2017-09-13T16:18:34 < dongs> is that china
2017-09-13T16:18:38 < englishman> tw
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2017-09-13T16:27:59 < dongs> https://youtu.be/RgBDdDdSqNE
2017-09-13T16:29:30 < englishman> $AAPL still over $160
2017-09-13T16:29:42 < englishman> projecting $200+ in 6 months
2017-09-13T16:29:57 < englishman> maybe more after Q4 earnings
2017-09-13T16:30:22 < englishman> they are still finding the upper limit that retards like R3COM will pay for their shit
2017-09-13T16:32:06 < dongs> why teh shit does mobile jewtube client not have messaging in it>?>
2017-09-13T16:32:11 < dongs> the crap you get in creator studio
2017-09-13T16:36:40 < dongs> did apple seriously put a fucking poop emoji into their ad
2017-09-13T16:37:22 < dongs> https://youtu.be/KQXhTLsr6u0?t=32 is this some troll fanmade shit
2017-09-13T16:38:41 < englishman> dong how do i make a rigidflex stackup in altidumb
2017-09-13T16:38:47 < englishman> it doesnt let me add the layers i need
2017-09-13T16:38:51 < englishman> or have <2 copper layers
2017-09-13T16:38:58 < englishman> unless i just uncheck em
2017-09-13T16:39:24 < dongs> i havent discovered rigidflex shit yet. what are you trying to do
2017-09-13T16:39:26 < dongs> is that the '1' mode?
2017-09-13T16:39:42 < englishman> 1 mode is for assigning stackups to regions yeah
2017-09-13T16:40:34 < dongs> ya i dont even know
2017-09-13T16:40:52 < englishman> im waiting to hear back from fab about what they want but i think itl be like this, i have 3 regions, 1 rigidflex, 1 flex, 1 flex + zif stiffener
2017-09-13T16:40:53 < dongs> everytime i hit 1 by mistake i jsut rage
2017-09-13T16:41:10 < englishman> i have 3 layers for the flex, 1 for rigid, plus 1 for zif
2017-09-13T16:41:22 < dongs> how do you do 3 layers
2017-09-13T16:41:23 < englishman> but altidumb doesnt let you add dielectric layers on the outside
2017-09-13T16:41:26 < englishman> right
2017-09-13T16:41:41 < zyp> hardcore stuff
2017-09-13T16:41:52 < englishman> its actually cheap and simple now
2017-09-13T16:42:02 < dongs> im just poking along with these arduinos here
2017-09-13T16:42:06 < englishman> its just flex with fr4 glued on lol
2017-09-13T17:03:18 < englishman> whoa fuck
2017-09-13T17:03:26 < englishman> ctrl+z doesnt work after redefining board region
2017-09-13T17:04:50 < karlp> had some fun hdmi last night, tried connecting lady's macbook's hdmi port to a dvi input monitor via a little adapter thing.  (same I'd tried with a ps4)  macbook recognises the monitor with brandname and everything, but monitor just instantly goes black. won't ever show anything. (same as the ps4 did, but I didn't have an alternative screen like with the macbook)
2017-09-13T17:05:17 < karlp> had a supposed hdmi-vga adapter too, which did nothing at all, though not sure which way that was even meant to be pretending to convert.
2017-09-13T17:07:09 < dongs> vga tohdmi obviously
2017-09-13T17:07:11 < dongs> the best way
2017-09-13T17:07:46 < dongs> englishman: theres a few ctrl+z bugs where shit doesnt end up in undo buffer
2017-09-13T17:07:51 < dongs> it is a bit ragey
2017-09-13T17:07:55 < englishman> yeah cost me 10min already
2017-09-13T17:14:25 < zyp> karlp, maybe the sources want to do HDCP and the monitor doesn't support that
2017-09-13T17:14:37 < dongs> yes
2017-09-13T17:14:43 < dongs> fucking cock protection
2017-09-13T17:15:10 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/mzJ8n7Y.png
2017-09-13T17:15:11 < englishman> nice
2017-09-13T17:15:23 < dongs> wow
2017-09-13T17:15:28 < dongs> da fuq
2017-09-13T17:15:36 < dongs> so if I wanted ot make a bendy fpc
2017-09-13T17:15:38 < dongs> is that wehre i do this?
2017-09-13T17:15:38 < englishman> you can sequence bends and shit too
2017-09-13T17:15:49 < englishman> yea
2017-09-13T17:17:15 < karlp> zyp: well, macbook ui was't very good at showing that sort of thing
2017-09-13T17:17:22 < karlp> gave up, will just try and find a new home for it.
2017-09-13T17:19:27 < dongs> you need the macbook X
2017-09-13T17:19:30 < dongs> without any ports
2017-09-13T17:19:38 < dongs> then you wouldn't have this kinda problem
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2017-09-13T17:30:14 < Getty> lol seeing a rebuilt lenovo with windows 10 pro on it for the price of a windows 10 pro ;) (actually lower)
2017-09-13T17:38:12 < malinus> dongs: basically the only reason I keep using thinkpads. Even the newer ones, you still get 3xUSB A and 1xUSB C. Also RJ45 and SD card reader. I end up with all holes filled
2017-09-13T17:42:07 < dongs> yeah but shitpads are gross design-wise
2017-09-13T17:42:41 < malinus> who the fuck cares about design. This is my mobile work station, not some fucking teen girl accessory
2017-09-13T17:44:51 < zyp> the new MBPs with four usb-c ports doesn't seem all that unusable, except for all the shit that's still usb-a
2017-09-13T17:45:36 < enh> this is like saying the person does only need sex, no matter whom with
2017-09-13T17:46:03 < dongs> pretty sure most people in this channel would agree with that statement
2017-09-13T17:46:05 < dongs> esp Laurenceb
2017-09-13T17:46:09 < zyp> haha
2017-09-13T17:46:12 < malinus> enh: haha good one
2017-09-13T17:46:40 < enh> i like design...
2017-09-13T17:47:02 < enh> i mean, well designed stuff.
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2017-09-13T17:48:21 < zyp> most of the shit I plug into my laptop have a to micro-b cables, so just replacing them with some c to micro-b cables would probably remove 90% of the need for usb-a ports
2017-09-13T17:48:43 < malinus> sure enough adapters and you can do most things
2017-09-13T17:48:53 < malinus> but I rather have the right tool to start with
2017-09-13T17:48:55 < dongs> not adapters.
2017-09-13T17:48:56 < dongs> cables.
2017-09-13T17:48:57 < sync> yeah but currently you need lots of adapter shit
2017-09-13T17:48:57 < zyp> I'm not talking about adapters, I'm talking about cables
2017-09-13T17:49:03 < sync> but yeah, you need the right cables
2017-09-13T17:49:06 < zyp> c to micro-b cables exist
2017-09-13T17:49:27 < malinus> same thing in practice
2017-09-13T17:49:34 < dongs> are they legal
2017-09-13T17:49:41 < zyp> of course they are
2017-09-13T17:49:52 < dongs> well C female to male arent
2017-09-13T17:49:56 < dongs> i.e. extension cables
2017-09-13T17:49:58 < zyp> yes
2017-09-13T17:49:59 < dongs> yet they exist
2017-09-13T17:50:14 < zyp> same shit with A to A
2017-09-13T17:50:19 < zyp> or whatever
2017-09-13T17:50:20 < dongs> heh
2017-09-13T17:50:29 < karlp> A male to A female extensions are legal though
2017-09-13T17:50:29 < dongs> my 4K HDMI generator actually uses A to A for power
2017-09-13T17:50:38 < dongs> A to A male that is
2017-09-13T17:50:39 < karlp> A male to A male is an abomination though
2017-09-13T17:50:42 < dongs> no fucking idea why they would do that
2017-09-13T17:50:55 < dongs> cuz you can literally take that cable and plug it into 2 ports on usb hub and watch the lols
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2017-09-13T17:51:09 < zyp> the usb-c spec basically says that whatever with usb-c plugs are ok, but usb-c sockets are not
2017-09-13T17:51:23 < zyp> karlp, no, A extensions are not
2017-09-13T17:51:27 < dongs> so is my dongledock gonna be illegal
2017-09-13T17:51:38 < karlp> zyp: how are they not?
2017-09-13T17:51:39 < dongs> it has a usb-c male sticking out of it
2017-09-13T17:51:56 < dfgg> karlp: they're not complying with standard
2017-09-13T17:52:04 < dfgg> spec*
2017-09-13T17:52:21 < Rob235> I've been asleep since sunday, what did I miss?
2017-09-13T17:52:21 < zyp> karlp, passive extension cables are illegal because they might let you violate the 5m limit per segment
2017-09-13T17:52:36 < Rob235> my guess is a whole lotta nothin'
2017-09-13T17:52:52 < zyp> karlp, active extension cables are allowed because they are essentially a 1-port hub
2017-09-13T17:52:53 < dongs> thats a legit reason i guess
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2017-09-13T17:53:05 < karlp> pretty slim, but ok, nothing like A-A male though
2017-09-13T17:53:39 < zyp> well, yes, everybody is using passive extensions anyway, but they are disallowed per spec
2017-09-13T17:55:41 < zyp> for usb-c there's even more of a reason, since extensions would fuck up the cable marking stuff that identifies PD-capable cables and so on
2017-09-13T17:56:48 < zyp> dongs, if it has a socket in the back and a plug for the docked device, and is all passive internally, then yes, it also violates spec
2017-09-13T17:57:50 < Steffanx> lol, A-A i love that. Especially when used for a otg-port with software switch between host and device.
2017-09-13T18:05:31 < Steffanx> ( seen a client do that at work )
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2017-09-13T18:42:15 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/IfmvsYk
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2017-09-13T19:45:22 < Steffanx> why do you re-upload images Laurenceb?
2017-09-13T19:45:33 < Steffanx> to add jpeg artifacts?
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2017-09-13T20:04:45 < Thorn> normal companies release rev. 3 of a chip to fix bugs. nordic adds RAM
2017-09-13T20:06:10 < Thorn> now everyone is going "how do I order it, suppliers refuse to sell a specific revision"
2017-09-13T20:15:34 < qyx> maybe they finally made it working and stop disabling it
2017-09-13T20:19:21 < Thorn> http://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.nordic.infocenter.nrf51%2Fdita%2Fnrf51%2Fcompatibility_matrix%2FnRF51822_ic_revision_overview.html
2017-09-13T20:19:48 < Thorn> they have all sorts of combinations
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2017-09-13T20:23:04 < Steffanx> something mentioned this before, not sure whom
2017-09-13T20:23:08 < Steffanx> *someone
2017-09-13T20:23:51 < Thorn> they're basically mixing revisions and specific products within the family together
2017-09-13T20:24:02 < aandrew> yeah
2017-09-13T20:24:09 < Thorn> wtf
2017-09-13T20:24:10 < aandrew> I worked around that in the bootloader I wrote for the nrf51
2017-09-13T20:24:33 < aandrew> it asks FICR about the RAM and Flash size and makes sure that the Flash page size is what's expected
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2017-09-13T20:32:27 < Thorn> yeah but what if you rely on > 16KB ram and then can't buy the 32KB version
2017-09-13T20:35:13 < Thorn> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/MJT-Bluetooth-4-0-module-nRF51822-2-4G-module-development-board-ble4-0-small-size-SMD/32597500318.html seller  claims that the boards have rev 3 with 32KB RAM and the picture even shows the correct chip (51822-QFAC)
2017-09-13T20:37:29 < aandrew> Thorn: is the 51422 not what you're after?
2017-09-13T20:41:02 < Thorn> not sure, looks like the only difference is 422 supports ANT?
2017-09-13T20:41:56 < Thorn> I don't think I need ANT
2017-09-13T20:51:18 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-gwuf-Ut5w music time kakimir
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2017-09-13T20:54:15 < aandrew> yes I knew that was the ANT licensed one as well, but I thought it also had 32kB of SRAM on all parts
2017-09-13T20:54:18 < aandrew> I am incorrect
2017-09-13T20:59:29 < englishman> dongs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2bAbbFMWQ
2017-09-13T21:02:44 < Steffanx> can i click?
2017-09-13T21:03:46 < englishman> sfw
2017-09-13T21:04:08 < Steffanx> nah, i mean it was direct to mr d. not sure if allowed to click :P
2017-09-13T21:04:18 < Steffanx> but yay, such flexible.
2017-09-13T21:11:11 < englishman> ind00d
2017-09-13T21:23:05 < Rob235> how do you fusion 360
2017-09-13T21:24:01 < Rob235> I have an octogon and extruded it, now I want a smaller octon to be extruded uhhh at an angle
2017-09-13T21:24:25 < Rob235> so that it goes at an angle from the larger size to the smaller size
2017-09-13T21:26:34 < Rob235> LOFT!
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2017-09-13T21:31:25 < Steffanx> loft.
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2017-09-13T21:32:06 < Steffanx> thats not how i interpreted " now I want a smaller octon to be extruded uhhh at an angle" Rob235 :P
2017-09-13T21:32:24 < Rob235> :) my descriptions rool
2017-09-13T21:32:56 < Steffanx> oh, maybe it is
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2017-09-13T22:34:55 < Laurenceb__> serious news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41253614
2017-09-13T22:35:54 < kakimir> no
2017-09-13T22:48:21 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws2ZhkqfgLI
2017-09-13T22:48:58 < kakimir> oldpaste
2017-09-13T22:49:43 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9i2HAE-ZSw
2017-09-13T22:55:50 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/yZe66YU
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2017-09-13T23:22:45 < Rob235> I'm not boring!
2017-09-13T23:23:07 < Rob235> why does fusion 360 keep crashing
2017-09-13T23:23:14 < Steffanx> driver issues?
2017-09-13T23:23:27 < Steffanx> solid works can be picky on drivers
2017-09-13T23:23:38 < Steffanx> so i guess so can fusion 360
2017-09-13T23:23:44 < Rob235> i'm on a mac, not much choice here
2017-09-13T23:23:58 < Steffanx> ah, yes.. forgot about that part
2017-09-13T23:25:07 < Rob235> I wish I could copy part of a mesh into my component
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2017-09-13T23:38:05 < englishman> how do i strip polyimide-coated wire
2017-09-13T23:40:15 < aandrew> damn they stole my billion dollar idea https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1391357603/the-world-first-personal-air-conditioning-watch/
2017-09-13T23:45:41 < Laurenceb__> what the fudge
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2017-09-13T23:52:27 < englishman> hmm i guess flame is the only way
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2017-09-14T00:04:14 < karlp> englishman: re botnet mining, I'm not really sure.  even with millions, a _large_ chunk of those hosts are such terribly poor hashers.  like, not all of them will be even capable of gpu mining, and hardly all of them will be good gpu miners.
2017-09-14T00:04:37 < englishman> yeah but when you are done, you can give them all ransomware for a one-time payout
2017-09-14T00:04:40 < karlp> compared to the current asics, even with free power, it's hardly going to to be much money
2017-09-14T00:04:50 < karlp> the ransomware is surely going to be way more lucrative thtan the mining.
2017-09-14T00:05:21 < karlp> of course, a big chunk of those bots don't have anyone to contactt to ask for money either :)
2017-09-14T00:06:07 < karlp> was trying to compare Mhash/s (free power on botnets) fromhere: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Non-specialized_hardware_comparison vs the MHash/J for the "dedicated" from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison but it's all a bitt flaky
2017-09-14T00:06:09 < englishman> its a numbers game tho, even a security camera running lunix on arm can do buttcoin mining, get 35 million of those, it's probably not insignificant buttcoinz
2017-09-14T00:06:24 < karlp> yeah, see, I'm not entirely convinced that they are
2017-09-14T00:06:30 < Rob235> you wouldn't mine bitcoin, you would mine something like monero and then buy bitcoin or whatever with XMR
2017-09-14T00:06:43 < englishman> or different flavour buttcoins whatever
2017-09-14T00:06:47 < karlp> the hash rate required tthtese days to get a block makes it not even feasible to finish a block on those poor hashers
2017-09-14T00:06:52 < karlp> sure, other coins
2017-09-14T00:07:01 < karlp> but I don't think they could possibly be doign bitcoin
2017-09-14T00:07:10 < englishman> its butts all teh way down
2017-09-14T00:07:11 < karlp> so yeah, 3x i7s in the heater? that'
2017-09-14T00:07:21 < karlp> s so they can retarget to the latest coin craze
2017-09-14T00:07:25 < Rob235> no reason to, there are so many others out there, monero was designed to be asic resistant
2017-09-14T00:07:41 < karlp> "designed to be"
2017-09-14T00:08:55 < Rob235> well I think its working so far
2017-09-14T00:11:09 < Rob235> the cryptonight algorithm is pretty crazy, I was attempting to fpga it but I've never used an fpga and I realized the one I got was way too small to hold all 11 or so hashing algorithms required
2017-09-14T00:12:56 < Rob235> that was back when monero was at $8, not its at $110
2017-09-14T00:13:02 < Rob235> now*
2017-09-14T00:13:03 < Laurenceb__> ma waifu https://imagebin.ca/v/3aHsJtpj9DiY
2017-09-14T00:14:38 < kakimir> who buys all the startup tech shiet?
2017-09-14T00:15:01 < kakimir> there is always some fun gadged by some startup
2017-09-14T00:15:19 < kakimir> they are in all magazines and stuff
2017-09-14T00:16:25 < Rob235> why dont you start and then tell us what 1% of it all is actually worth buying :)
2017-09-14T00:18:12 < Rob235> theres no way that watch temperature thing works, its obviously just some peltier cooler that cycles on and off.  maybe if you wore 100 of them all around your body :)
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2017-09-14T00:19:50 < kakimir> Laurenceb__: lookin good
2017-09-14T00:21:45 < kakimir> and lookin.. much
2017-09-14T00:24:40 < Laurenceb__> online dating is more cancerous than /r9k/
2017-09-14T00:25:19 < Laurenceb__> I guess that makes sense seeing as 100% of the ppl on there cant get laid, wheras on /r9k/ it's slightly less than 100%
2017-09-14T00:25:46 < kakimir> what is r9k?
2017-09-14T00:25:57 < malinus> I know at least 3 couples that met with the help of online dating. Of which 2 have kids now
2017-09-14T00:26:09 < Laurenceb__> s/kids/autists
2017-09-14T00:26:16 < malinus> but might be true for edgy teens Laurenceb__
2017-09-14T00:26:16 < kakimir> :]
2017-09-14T00:26:34 < Laurenceb__> kakimir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot9000
2017-09-14T00:26:41 < Laurenceb__> created my Monroe :D
2017-09-14T00:26:43 < Laurenceb__> my sides
2017-09-14T00:27:44 < Laurenceb__>  " I am a woman. An independent, ambitious, lovely woman. I love stuff such as shoes, shopping, puppies"
2017-09-14T00:27:50 < Laurenceb__> wtf am I reading
2017-09-14T00:28:14 < kakimir> it says she needs your money
2017-09-14T00:28:21 < Laurenceb__> more cancerous than /b/
2017-09-14T00:30:47 < kakimir> you need to write her back
2017-09-14T00:31:36 < kakimir> I mean bomb with creapish PMs
2017-09-14T00:31:56 < kakimir> it's how it works
2017-09-14T00:32:05 < Laurenceb__> https://imagebin.ca/v/3aHy5hY9VzFz
2017-09-14T00:32:19 < Laurenceb__> a whole new tier of cancer
2017-09-14T00:32:39 < englishman> 81% match laurent
2017-09-14T00:33:02 < englishman> a little extra for you too
2017-09-14T00:33:10 < englishman> that brings it up to at least 86%
2017-09-14T00:33:18 < kakimir> :D
2017-09-14T00:33:31 < Laurenceb__> well that settles that then
2017-09-14T00:33:41  * Laurenceb__ relocates to Raqqa
2017-09-14T00:34:18 < englishman> surely you meant to type الرقة
2017-09-14T00:35:15 < Laurenceb__> ن شاء الله‎‎
2017-09-14T00:39:22 < englishman> rip, intel edison
2017-09-14T00:39:55 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/rfqc3Ns.png
2017-09-14T00:40:10 < zyp> aww
2017-09-14T00:40:21 < zyp> bought artik yet?
2017-09-14T00:40:28 < englishman> no
2017-09-14T00:40:44 < englishman> order went thru for 1500 edisons tho
2017-09-14T00:40:45 < englishman> :D
2017-09-14T00:40:58 < englishman> https://octopart.com/edi2.spof.al.s-intel-51988652
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2017-09-14T00:54:23 < Steffanx> heh
2017-09-14T00:55:02 < Laurenceb__> whyyyyy
2017-09-14T00:55:08 < Steffanx> did intel say anything about why they killed it englishman?
2017-09-14T00:56:26 < englishman> im not that important to actually talk to intel
2017-09-14T00:56:31 < Laurenceb__> wut
2017-09-14T00:56:40 < Laurenceb__> surely you doubled total sales?
2017-09-14T00:56:45 < zyp> probably because it were intended as a toy and then it got old and obsolete
2017-09-14T00:56:50 < zyp> haha
2017-09-14T01:02:49 < Steffanx> nah englishman, maybe they released some public statement. As you are still using them you might have read something.
2017-09-14T01:03:18 < englishman> just the PCN that I originally got from you... lol
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2017-09-14T01:15:49 < Steffanx> There isnt a usb class to make a device act as a external display/monitor, is there?
2017-09-14T01:17:06 < englishman> alternate modes?
2017-09-14T01:17:26 < englishman> its not exactly usb tho
2017-09-14T01:17:53 < Cracki_> billboard device class mebbey
2017-09-14T01:17:59 < Cracki_> http://www.usb.org/developers/defined_class
2017-09-14T01:18:12 < Cracki_> those are 1.0 though, so who knows what came after
2017-09-14T01:22:40 < vampi-the-frog> I think there's a display class too
2017-09-14T01:24:44 < Cracki_> might be related to wireless usb displays
2017-09-14T01:25:08 < Cracki_> I know of usb-vga devices that need custom drivers...
2017-09-14T01:25:32 < Steffanx> Googled a bit and didnt find any classes.
2017-09-14T01:27:09 < Cracki_> :/
2017-09-14T01:28:12 < Steffanx> any that do what i need that is
2017-09-14T01:40:22 < zyp> Steffanx, uh, I think there is one
2017-09-14T01:43:31 < zyp> hmm, no, I guess I'm thinking of this shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayLink
2017-09-14T01:43:56 < zyp> which seems to be used in every usb display adapter and usb docking station
2017-09-14T01:45:01 < Steffanx> yeah, that's what i found as well.
2017-09-14T01:45:22 < zyp> I've got a usb3 docking station thing at work, works pretty well
2017-09-14T01:45:29 < zyp> surprisingly well actually
2017-09-14T01:46:05 < zyp> I expected it to have noticeable latency, but it haven't been a problem at all
2017-09-14T01:49:35 < Laurenceb__> I'm looking for someone because it's super lonely post Brexit
2017-09-14T01:49:43 < Laurenceb__> how is my profile going so far?
2017-09-14T01:50:20 < Laurenceb__> "I need to get laid to fight Trump"
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2017-09-14T01:54:32 < Steffanx> hmm, there is some
2017-09-14T01:54:42 < Steffanx> displaylink reverse engineering work, maybe...
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2017-09-14T02:38:00 < kakimir> Fast & Furious 8 was cool
2017-09-14T02:39:37 < kakimir> lastlog furious is fun
2017-09-14T02:40:04 < kakimir> 14:50 < stvn> there is a lot of art and furious masturbation in the design of mic preamps
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2017-09-14T02:43:09 < englishman> it was quite absurd
2017-09-14T02:43:29 < englishman> sure have a big budget now
2017-09-14T02:44:30 < kakimir> I have always wondered the methods of mic preamp design but now I know
2017-09-14T02:48:35 < kakimir> I think some earlier ones were a crappier than this
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2017-09-14T02:53:51 < kakimir> englishman:
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2017-09-14T02:57:11 < Steffanx> those movies such, always, no exceptions kakimir.
2017-09-14T02:58:03 < Steffanx> *suck
2017-09-14T03:01:16 < kakimir> actually paid for it
2017-09-14T03:02:08 < kakimir> I don't feel the regret
2017-09-14T03:02:22 < kakimir> in some movies you get it few minutes in
2017-09-14T03:03:29 < kakimir> some movies at half way after they don't have anything but the obivious storyline left
2017-09-14T03:05:30 < Steffanx> i would after the first care chase/race/whatever with 151 gear shifts.
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2017-09-14T03:20:45 < senpaisays> hi Steffanx
2017-09-14T03:23:41 < Steffanx> hi stvn
2017-09-14T03:24:40 < Rob235> my amazing work in progress: https://imgur.com/a/mM7MS
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2017-09-14T03:25:07 < Steffanx> chess pieces?
2017-09-14T03:25:44 < Rob235> nope, case for my drawing wobot.  I couldn't think of a good theme that had to do with drawing so I decided on a castle :)
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2017-09-14T04:03:01 < Laurenceb__> <kakimir> Fast & Furious 8 was cool
2017-09-14T04:03:04 < Laurenceb__> what the fuck
2017-09-14T04:03:08 < Laurenceb__> not sure if troll
2017-09-14T04:03:15 < Laurenceb__> cancer is video form
2017-09-14T04:03:17 < Laurenceb__> *in
2017-09-14T04:07:51 < dongs> hello dongs
2017-09-14T04:08:03 < dongs> zyp, no its active
2017-09-14T04:11:30 < senpaisays> hello
2017-09-14T04:11:46 < dongs> sup crt, youre pumping mightly early this morning
2017-09-14T04:14:19 < Cracki_> and glass on the back
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2017-09-14T04:20:20 < Cracki_> it's to look good
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2017-09-14T04:20:42 < Cracki_> probably more scratch-resistant (and less breakage-resistant) than plastic
2017-09-14T04:21:24 < dongs> why dont you just spend $200 on a yotaphone then, faggot
2017-09-14T04:21:52 < dongs> it has two screens and works gr8
2017-09-14T04:21:56 < dongs> yt3 just announces too
2017-09-14T04:22:01 < dongs> coming this/nextm onth
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2017-09-14T04:23:51 < dongs> you failed you fucking jew
2017-09-14T04:24:20 < dongs> go ahead and blow $1k on a S8 r ipoff
2017-09-14T04:24:30 < dongs> just to get a glossy-white chewed up apple on the back glass
2017-09-14T04:24:48 < dongs> maybe you'll get more friends when you show everyone around you that you bought a new phone from apple
2017-09-14T04:24:55 < dongs> if only it worked
2017-09-14T04:25:23 < dongs> i have no problem with making calls on assdroid phone
2017-09-14T04:25:27 < dongs> or chatting
2017-09-14T04:25:37 < dongs> < R2COM> and overtime it becomes worse
2017-09-14T04:25:39 < dongs> how would you know, faggot
2017-09-14T04:25:45 < dongs> you never own your shiny apple slab for more than 6 months
2017-09-14T04:25:52 < dongs> before steve's cock in your ass forces you to upgrade
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2017-09-14T04:26:56 < dongs> sorry to hear that
2017-09-14T04:26:59 < dongs> its instant on my phone
2017-09-14T04:27:06 < dongs> yes it is
2017-09-14T04:27:11 < dongs> i use that all the time
2017-09-14T04:27:18 < aandrew> < R2COM> you lying goy
2017-09-14T04:27:20 < aandrew> hahahahahahahaha
2017-09-14T04:29:23 < dongs> haha, fuck you :)
2017-09-14T04:29:59 < aandrew> yeah I'm 100% iphone, but each new ios release is worse and the hardware, while solid, keeps removing features
2017-09-14T04:30:24 < aandrew> that iphone x is absofuckinglutely idiotic. jobs would have punched cook right in the cock over that one
2017-09-14T04:30:52 < aandrew> don't know, it's your money
2017-09-14T04:31:21 < aandrew> My last update was to the SE because 6 and everything after has that stupid camera bump and is too big ot be useful with one hand
2017-09-14T04:31:32 < aandrew> 7 lost the headphone jack which I use
2017-09-14T04:31:45 < aandrew> x got rid of the home button which was a bad mistake
2017-09-14T04:31:58 < dongs> lol adapter
2017-09-14T04:31:58 < aandrew> yeah the last thing I want is another fucking dongle
2017-09-14T04:32:15 < dongs> <stvn> just use jewtooth headphones
2017-09-14T04:32:30 < dongs> AirDongs
2017-09-14T04:32:35 < aandrew> same reason why I'm using 2012 11" MBA instead of upgrading. they dropped the magsafe, they dropped USB-A (seriously, not even one?), they completely fucked up the keyboard and they made the HDD non-servicable
2017-09-14T04:32:45 < aandrew> no, I'm not nitpicking
2017-09-14T04:33:13 < aandrew> their solution means I can't charge and use headphones at the same time.their solution means if I don't have the dongle I can't just buy a cheap set of headphones if I need them. fuck that
2017-09-14T04:33:51 < aandrew> I have bluetooth headphones and they're great, but that's another thing to keep charged. my headphones+mic are nicely wrapped up and in my laptop bag should I ever need them. never have to worry about a battery
2017-09-14T04:34:02 < aandrew> R2COM: you 100% of the time have the dongle on you?
2017-09-14T04:34:19 < aandrew> R2COM: the fucking TRRS jack is IN the phone. even better
2017-09-14T04:34:41 < aandrew> so as far as I can see right now... this is my last apple laptop and my last apple phone
2017-09-14T04:35:00 < aandrew> I'll go hackintosh if need be, but don't really want that hassle
2017-09-14T04:35:40 < aandrew> and android... ugh. I may get another apple phone but they have a few years to get off this "let's remove everything and make it so large and thin that it's nothing more than a pretty but useless status symbol" kick that they're on
2017-09-14T04:35:50 < aandrew> R2COM: my main workstation is a hackintosh. works great
2017-09-14T04:36:14 < aandrew> but in a laptop... not so sure. one thing I absolutley love about this MBA is that it just fucking works. all power saving, everything. it's awesome
2017-09-14T04:36:36 < aandrew> R2COM: I have my bt ones for when I'm at the office, and I have the corded earbuds for when I'm out and around
2017-09-14T04:36:50 < aandrew> I don't game
2017-09-14T04:37:00 < aandrew> well that's not true
2017-09-14T04:37:06 < aandrew> I have a couple of iphone games I play on the shitter
2017-09-14T04:37:10 < aandrew> that's about it
2017-09-14T04:37:20 < aandrew> but they're puzzle type games, not fps or whatever
2017-09-14T04:38:49 < senpaisays> fucken
2017-09-14T04:39:35 < aandrew> yes
2017-09-14T04:39:48 < aandrew> and they used a *standard* which I think is the most shocking thing in the entire release
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2017-09-14T05:12:09 < senpaisays> my name is sweet pussy pauline
2017-09-14T05:12:16 < senpaisays> and i got a story i want to share with you this evening
2017-09-14T05:14:52 < dongs> hilarious how apple invented wireless charging in 2017
2017-09-14T05:17:28 < senpaisays> yeah thats what the cd player on test spat out at me
2017-09-14T05:22:25 < senpaisays> lol
2017-09-14T05:22:44 < senpaisays> do you want to get him fired up r2?
2017-09-14T05:23:02 < senpaisays> i'd invent a way for hitler to finish the job
2017-09-14T05:23:02 < dongs> man fuckign chinks
2017-09-14T05:23:33 < dongs> their shitty 1L board they managed to make shorts to ground lol
2017-09-14T05:23:36 < dongs> from other traces
2017-09-14T05:25:23 < senpaisays> good board
2017-09-14T05:28:17 < senpaisays> who?
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2017-09-14T06:53:22 < senpaisays> r2 how do i become good youtuber
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2017-09-14T07:07:36 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/QwJIZMW.png
2017-09-14T07:07:38 < englishman> and so it begins
2017-09-14T07:10:42 < senpaisays> internet of SHIT
2017-09-14T07:10:45 < senpaisays> sup englishman
2017-09-14T07:22:36 < englishman> hi steev
2017-09-14T07:24:34 < senpaisays> welcome
2017-09-14T07:24:52 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2bAbbFMWQ
2017-09-14T07:25:15 < senpaisays> wtflol
2017-09-14T07:31:32 < englishman> this morning's pre-coffee innovtions
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2017-09-14T07:39:16 < englishman> Equifax had 'admin' as login and password in Argentina - BBC Technology
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2017-09-14T07:48:52 < senpaisays> cloned
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2017-09-14T07:59:14 < dongs> 0x01BB5880 0x01BB850B
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2017-09-14T08:04:14 < dongs> how do i do a cycle-accurate delay
2017-09-14T08:07:26 < englishman> psoc
2017-09-14T08:07:26 < dongs> https://www.pabigot.com/arm-cortex-m/the-effect-of-the-arm-cortex-m-nop-instruction/
2017-09-14T08:07:30 < dongs> uhh, great
2017-09-14T08:09:05 < dongs> how would i write MOV R8, R8 without __asm
2017-09-14T08:09:36 < ohsix> boop
2017-09-14T08:11:17 < dongs> 0x01A64CDC 0x01A66883
2017-09-14T08:12:51 < ohsix> saw a slashdot sticker on a car today
2017-09-14T08:12:53 < ohsix> guy was like 60
2017-09-14T08:16:58 < dongs> 0x01BB59CD 0x01BB826E
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2017-09-14T08:21:14 < englishman> are you posting decss
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2017-09-14T08:25:57 < dongs> yes
2017-09-14T08:27:36 < englishman> can you sell me some intel edisons instead
2017-09-14T08:32:10 < dongs> hm my fucking 2812 DMA shit is glitching in release mode
2017-09-14T08:32:11 < dongs> wtf
2017-09-14T08:32:22 < dongs> its all hardware/timer/DMA based
2017-09-14T08:32:52 < englishman> f0?
2017-09-14T08:33:11 < dongs> oh wtf lol
2017-09-14T08:33:13 < dongs> there's breaks in DMA
2017-09-14T08:33:17 < dongs> pauses
2017-09-14T08:34:18 < dongs> 74us pause
2017-09-14T08:34:19 < dongs> between blocks
2017-09-14T08:34:31 < englishman> so like i saw on f042
2017-09-14T08:34:39 < dongs> 2.6ms block then 74us pause
2017-09-14T08:34:41 < dongs> this is f405
2017-09-14T08:34:45 < englishman> lol
2017-09-14T08:35:14 < englishman> are you using any other dmas
2017-09-14T08:35:20 < dongs> im looking but i dont think so
2017-09-14T08:35:43 < dongs> hmm
2017-09-14T08:35:43 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-14T08:35:46 < englishman> dma into timer or dma into gpio
2017-09-14T08:35:52 < dongs> dma into timer.
2017-09-14T08:35:55 < dongs> i had adc dma running also
2017-09-14T08:35:59 < dongs> i guess that just doesnt work together
2017-09-14T08:36:00 < dongs> lame
2017-09-14T08:36:04 < englishman> should be ok
2017-09-14T08:36:06 < dongs> nope
2017-09-14T08:36:11 < dongs> killed it and pauses are gone
2017-09-14T08:36:13 < englishman> depeding on which apb
2017-09-14T08:36:16 < englishman> check errata
2017-09-14T08:36:32 < englishman> or maybe there is actual channel conflict
2017-09-14T08:36:34 < dongs> 2812 = TIM1
2017-09-14T08:36:41 < dongs> no, both of them work
2017-09-14T08:36:45 < dongs> funny is: it also works in debug mode
2017-09-14T08:36:47 < dongs> O0
2017-09-14T08:36:52 < dongs> which is kinda wtf
2017-09-14T08:37:00 < englishman> oh nice its one of those bugs
2017-09-14T08:37:30 < dongs> i dont need ADC that fast
2017-09-14T08:37:34 < dongs> i can set it up to be triggered
2017-09-14T08:37:37 < dongs> and just dma once per loop
2017-09-14T08:38:32 < dongs> these 2812s visibly flicker when set
2017-09-14T08:38:35 < dongs> its pretty gross actually
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2017-09-14T08:48:09 < dongs> hm they're on same DMA controller
2017-09-14T08:48:14 < dongs> DMA2_Stream0 and _Stream1
2017-09-14T08:49:29 < ohsix> there aren't bus width contension things on the cortex parts are there
2017-09-14T08:49:35 < dongs> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-14/north-korea-threatens-to-use-nuclear-weapon-to-sink-japan
2017-09-14T08:49:38 < dongs> RIP
2017-09-14T08:49:39 < ohsix> i knew this at some point, and i think it is no; unless you're using fsmc
2017-09-14T08:50:01 < dongs> oh thats cute
2017-09-14T08:50:07 < dongs> initing ADC DMA after 2812 works
2017-09-14T08:50:37 < dongs> priority changes or something? haha.
2017-09-14T08:52:29 < ohsix> preemption?
2017-09-14T08:55:36 < zyp> dongs, then it should be fine
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2017-09-14T08:56:24 < ohsix> ne1 work with thermocouples and the controllers, was working on injection molding machine; guy called me when he thought the readout was broke
2017-09-14T08:57:01 < ohsix> it reads 784, then a second later 746 and stays there; i checked the loop resistance with the working channels and they were all the same
2017-09-14T08:57:13 < ohsix> stopped short of further tests, going to get back to it next week
2017-09-14T08:57:51 < jpa-> thermocouple wire is pretty fragile, i've seen cables that work until you touch them
2017-09-14T08:58:53 < englishman> soldered a bunch of 38awg today for mousebraincam
2017-09-14T08:59:05 < englishman> saw a video of that shit
2017-09-14T08:59:12 < englishman> trippy
2017-09-14T08:59:54 < englishman> some phd student barely old enough to be a jr burger flipper at mcd drilling holes in mouse skulls and gluing in cams
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2017-09-14T09:01:16 < ohsix> there's an extra run of cable through the umbillical, i'm gonna terminate that and see if it works
2017-09-14T09:01:40 < ohsix> it's an old machine & new owner, kind of have to localize it even if that fixes it
2017-09-14T09:02:02 < ohsix> i thought the 780 degree thing might be a known open loop or other sort of common problem with type j thermocouples
2017-09-14T09:03:46 < jpa-> nah, typically open loop thermocouples will retain the old value and start to slowly wander away from it, unless the controller has specific open loop detection circuit in which case i'd expect an error message
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2017-09-14T09:08:32 < sync> ohsix: there are some issues with type k elements when used at high temps
2017-09-14T09:08:46 < sync> Not sure if type j also does it
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2017-09-14T09:17:55 < ohsix> the situation is that one channel of 4 shows it, and we swapped the thermocouple around and the controllers in the panel around, it is just the one wire
2017-09-14T09:18:58 < ohsix> the wire isn't broke enough to show up in a loop check, but that's all i'm aware of that it could be
2017-09-14T09:19:53 < ohsix> was looking at junk just to plug in the thermocouple and test with, or something ic ould generally have hooked up while the panel is locked out, so i could wiggle wires and shit
2017-09-14T09:22:03 < ohsix> could be a metallurgy thing in one of the connections too
2017-09-14T09:36:38 < ohsix> hrmph anyone use TheSeven's userscript for ali, it's working sometimes and i'm not web-dweeb enough to look into it
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2017-09-14T09:56:19 < dongs> wait what he fuck
2017-09-14T09:56:22 < dongs> there are STILL pauses
2017-09-14T09:56:26 < dongs> if adc is init
2017-09-14T09:56:29 < dongs> but 2812 works ok
2017-09-14T09:57:10 < dongs> hm they're not even adc related
2017-09-14T09:58:08 < dongs> why would dma transfer of ~5k things have ~70us pauses in it
2017-09-14T10:02:11 < dongs> hm not even, 2160 uint16s
2017-09-14T10:02:45 < dongs> nothing else uses dma
2017-09-14T10:10:11 < ohsix> http://i.imgur.com/SJ22G45.jpg next level shit yo
2017-09-14T10:11:01 < ohsix> dongs: break on any irq and look at nvic state
2017-09-14T10:13:34 < ohsix> they need to make a microsd connector with a hole for the lint to be pushed into the body of the phone
2017-09-14T10:14:27 < ohsix> or one just a lot deeper in the back so it gets pressed into a cake over time that you can pull out all at once
2017-09-14T10:14:37 < ohsix> billion dollar idea
2017-09-14T10:17:35 < ohsix> ReadErr: broad city is back, and vice principals this weekend
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2017-09-14T10:18:42 < ohsix> thermocouple ~780 reading is 44.5mv for type j, wonder if it is something coupled into it
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2017-09-14T10:42:23 < sync> Hmm a quick Google does not show lattice issues with type j
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2017-09-14T11:21:16 < stvn> ^
2017-09-14T11:31:34 < ohsix> huh re: that arm nop thing, they say bitbanding to periph takes 6 clocks, sram 5
2017-09-14T11:31:49 < ohsix> doesn't that make it faster to do it with fewer instructions
2017-09-14T11:32:44 < ohsix> sync: lattice issues? the thermocouples are on stuff ~450c
2017-09-14T11:33:34 < stvn> welcome  tc2
2017-09-14T11:33:45 < stvn> steffan told me you were coming
2017-09-14T11:37:12 < zyp> ohsix, bitbanding isn't about speed, it's about atomicity
2017-09-14T11:38:50 < stvn> zyp, what happened to leeloo?
2017-09-14T11:39:16 < zyp> stvn, why are you asking me?
2017-09-14T11:39:53 < stvn> good question.
2017-09-14T11:40:29 < stvn> i was reminiscing about the day you schooled him on c++
2017-09-14T11:47:59 < dongs> i thought bitbanding was about autism
2017-09-14T11:49:19 < stvn> never heard of it myself
2017-09-14T11:49:35 < dongs> i have, but didnt have any legit use for it
2017-09-14T11:53:06 < stvn> maybe i would if not dealing with trash like this on a daily basis https://i.imgur.com/xiK3srL.jpg
2017-09-14T11:54:28 < dongs> looks nicely smoked
2017-09-14T11:54:34 < Steffanx> Your fluke is broken
2017-09-14T11:54:37 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-14T11:55:00 < stvn> never failed me
2017-09-14T11:55:45 < stvn> and thats just the shit those gooks smear on the PCBs
2017-09-14T11:56:04 < stvn> havent even touched base on the components or the circuit
2017-09-14T12:08:17 < stvn> no innovation without the wafel
2017-09-14T12:11:03 < dongs> got one more short in the keyboard matrix somewhere
2017-09-14T12:11:11 < dongs> letting chinks deal with it cuz not my fucking problem
2017-09-14T12:12:18 < stvn> yeah fuck them
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2017-09-14T12:13:24 < stvn> so i'm dealing with nggr no.2
2017-09-14T12:13:37 < sync> ohsix: type k recrystalizes
2017-09-14T12:14:48 < stvn> how could such a small amplifier dissipate so much power doing nothing
2017-09-14T12:15:19 < zyp> class A? :p
2017-09-14T12:15:25 < stvn> it's class D!!!!
2017-09-14T12:15:47 < stvn> 250w a channel it gets screaming hot
2017-09-14T12:16:44 < stvn> again, doing absolutely fuck all
2017-09-14T12:18:59 < stvn> to me that says switching / cross conduction losses
2017-09-14T12:19:13 < stvn> also, NiGGER
2017-09-14T12:24:05 < dongs> why is autism6 autisming over thermocouples
2017-09-14T12:24:16 < stvn> ask steffan
2017-09-14T12:40:31 < stvn> Steffanx, can you help me
2017-09-14T12:41:11 < Steffanx> ...?
2017-09-14T12:43:09 < stvn> lol hey mate
2017-09-14T12:43:25 < stvn> i have power electronics problems mate
2017-09-14T12:45:52 < Steffanx> Ok
2017-09-14T12:46:22 < stvn> you killed PeterM didn't you
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2017-09-14T12:58:35 < stvn> good morning dr b
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2017-09-14T13:50:41 < stvn> BONE DUNGEON
2017-09-14T14:02:43 < dongs> more like boner dungeon
2017-09-14T14:03:13 < stvn> ~
2017-09-14T14:03:38 < stvn> not much to do at this hour
2017-09-14T14:04:30 < Steffanx> Http://Time.is/australia
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2017-09-14T14:05:23 < stvn> ty
2017-09-14T14:05:38 < dongs> are you still at the office at 9pm
2017-09-14T14:05:43 < dongs> must be lots of pumping in queue
2017-09-14T14:05:47 < stvn> n
2017-09-14T14:05:51 < stvn> just in the den now
2017-09-14T14:06:51 < stvn> i did have a real genetic mess on the bench today
2017-09-14T14:06:54 < Steffanx> Lol, arent you in the home office around that time as well?
2017-09-14T14:07:05 < Steffanx> Mr dongs
2017-09-14T14:07:57 < stvn> lel
2017-09-14T14:09:14 < dongs> im considering just quitting and going to fap instead
2017-09-14T14:10:12 < stvn> just do it
2017-09-14T14:33:27 < stvn> Steffanx, post this to englishman https://i.imgur.com/V7plzZs.jpg
2017-09-14T14:33:47 < Steffanx> Getting fall in aussieland?
2017-09-14T14:35:47 < stvn> fallout? nah they havent nuked japan this yeart
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2017-09-14T14:37:24 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-09-14T14:37:34 < Laurenceb> oh the chief troll just quit
2017-09-14T14:43:53 < dongs> fucking hell knob scan on this thing is retarded
2017-09-14T14:44:35 < dongs> 4 knobs at 0..3 one knob at 12 and the rest are 23..15
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2017-09-14T14:50:09 < dongs> 0x01BB57E0 0x01BB7D2B
2017-09-14T14:53:34 < dongs> 0x01A64CF4 0x01A665E3
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2017-09-14T14:59:28 < Rob235> good mornin'
2017-09-14T15:00:24 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/jdZB26S
2017-09-14T15:01:20 < dongs> unfunny garbage
2017-09-14T15:02:00 < Rob235> F for effort
2017-09-14T15:02:03 < dongs> yes
2017-09-14T15:02:35 < dongs> F- more like
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2017-09-14T16:20:22 < Cracki> ok so does stm32 stand for? it can't be ST microprocessor, 32 bit, judging by the quality content in here :)
2017-09-14T16:20:26 < Cracki> +what
2017-09-14T16:21:05 < Laurenceb> Sick Trolls and More
2017-09-14T16:21:10 < BrainDamage> standard trolling mates
2017-09-14T16:22:12 < Cracki> I feel at home
2017-09-14T16:22:39 < dongs> haha
2017-09-14T16:22:49 < dongs> ffmpeg, eh
2017-09-14T16:23:21 < Cracki> sometimes
2017-09-14T16:24:00 < Laurenceb> please don't swear in the channel
2017-09-14T16:24:12 < Laurenceb> I don't like the ff word
2017-09-14T16:24:30 < Cracki> we are the knights who say.. libav?
2017-09-14T16:24:42 < dongs> gross
2017-09-14T16:24:51 < dongs> lib*anything is filthy lunix shit
2017-09-14T16:24:58 < dongs> version 0.0.1
2017-09-14T16:25:02 < dongs> and when 0.0.2 rolls out, all the API cahnges
2017-09-14T16:25:15  * Laurenceb is trying to install freecad
2017-09-14T16:25:20 < Laurenceb> tell me about it...
2017-09-14T16:25:56 < Steffanx>  https://github.com/FreeCAD/FreeCAD/releases/download/0.16.6712/FreeCAD-0.16.6712_x64_setup.exe easy.
2017-09-14T16:26:01 < Cracki> freecad lol I tried that a few times. I will not touch that ever again
2017-09-14T16:26:32 < Cracki> commercial software can be operated, freecad can't
2017-09-14T16:26:44 < Cracki> sad but true
2017-09-14T16:26:46 < dongs> kinda like kikecad
2017-09-14T16:26:53 < Steffanx> "FreeCAD is under heavy development and might not be ready for production use" ;)
2017-09-14T16:27:07 < Cracki> orly
2017-09-14T16:27:10 < Laurenceb> they are now using continuous distribution
2017-09-14T16:27:20 < Laurenceb> wut is kikecad usable now?
2017-09-14T16:27:25 < Laurenceb> something clearly changed
2017-09-14T16:27:47 < Laurenceb> FreeCAD has been installing for 20 minutes...
2017-09-14T16:27:56 < Cracki> I don't think that's usable. does it still mix routing and rendering code?
2017-09-14T16:28:10 < Laurenceb> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
2017-09-14T16:28:54 < BrainDamage> how the fuck do you manage to get a package manager to fail
2017-09-14T16:29:02 < BrainDamage> how screwed up is your system
2017-09-14T16:29:07 < englishman> they caught me http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fake-degree-toronto-investigation-1.4287347
2017-09-14T16:29:52 < Laurenceb> Your version of FreeCAD is up to date.: 0.17.12098
2017-09-14T16:29:59 < Laurenceb> well it worked so *shrug*
2017-09-14T16:31:32 < Laurenceb> lul they redesigned the gui so everything is hidden
2017-09-14T16:31:37 < Laurenceb> recursive epin fail
2017-09-14T16:31:58 < Laurenceb> why not lots of small icons like a sane person...
2017-09-14T16:32:11 < Steffanx> autism cant handle change, it is known
2017-09-14T16:32:33 < Cracki> if they'd copy the interaction paradigms from commercial software at least...
2017-09-14T16:32:52 < Cracki> they rely way too heavily on "dialogs"
2017-09-14T16:38:56 < dongs> i thought they relied much more heavily on "dongs"
2017-09-14T16:39:29  * Laurenceb has an autistic fit over freecad
2017-09-14T16:40:18 < englishman> so whats with the hex dong
2017-09-14T16:40:22 < dongs> hex?
2017-09-14T16:40:29 < dongs> oh, DWC_CYCCNT
2017-09-14T16:40:32 < dongs> just using irc as notepad
2017-09-14T16:40:32 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvim4rsNHkQ
2017-09-14T16:40:37 < englishman> ah, handy
2017-09-14T16:40:41 < englishman> window is always there
2017-09-14T16:40:45 < englishman> good idea
2017-09-14T16:40:58 < aandrew> heh I have like a dozen sublime text windows with the same purpose
2017-09-14T16:41:12 < aandrew> sublime is great because if anything happens to the PC it saved state
2017-09-14T16:43:17 < englishman> yea i use notepad++ the same way
2017-09-14T16:43:21 < Laurenceb> sounds handy
2017-09-14T16:43:32 < dongs> you're all fucking faggots
2017-09-14T16:43:35 < dongs> sublimie is commercial filth
2017-09-14T16:43:39 < dongs> same as notepad+
2017-09-14T16:43:43 < Steffanx> better use atom
2017-09-14T16:43:47 < dongs> snort
2017-09-14T16:43:48 < dongs> no.
2017-09-14T16:43:58 < Steffanx> but non-commercial
2017-09-14T16:44:03 < Laurenceb> dongs confirmed as RMS
2017-09-14T16:44:04 < BrainDamage> i use sublime too
2017-09-14T16:44:09 < BrainDamage> and nvim
2017-09-14T16:44:17 < englishman> notepad++ = commercial filth?
2017-09-14T16:44:23 < dongs> i use gvim 64bit edition
2017-09-14T16:44:23 < englishman> dong hasnt had enough tea today
2017-09-14T16:44:27 < aandrew> < Laurenceb> dongs confirmed as RMS
2017-09-14T16:44:32 < aandrew> you just made me choke on my fucking coffee
2017-09-14T16:44:57 < aandrew> gvim 64b haha
2017-09-14T16:45:01 < dongs> yes.
2017-09-14T16:45:02 < dongs> .exe
2017-09-14T16:45:22 < aandrew> complaining about commercial filth while using a commercial os
2017-09-14T16:45:22 < dongs> pro editor, none of this payware shit like sublime
2017-09-14T16:45:26 < fest> did I see dongs and vim in the same sentence?
2017-09-14T16:45:31 < aandrew> gvim in fact
2017-09-14T16:45:40 < aandrew> I'm looking up, but there are no pigs flying
2017-09-14T16:45:41 < dongs> aandJEW, there's absolutely nothign wrong with using a commercial OS
2017-09-14T16:46:03 < aandrew> dongs: I know, I run osx.
2017-09-14T16:46:38 < tpw_rules> tbf sublime is winrar-ware
2017-09-14T16:46:49 < englishman> gVim 7.3
2017-09-14T16:46:51 < englishman> OS Windows 98
2017-09-14T16:46:58 < tpw_rules> award™ bios
2017-09-14T16:47:02 < tpw_rules> winbios*
2017-09-14T16:47:23 < dongs>  version 7.4.1403
2017-09-14T16:48:08 < englishman> acctual photo of dongs using vim https://vim.sourceforge.io/images/vim_drill_small.JPG
2017-09-14T16:48:20 < dongs> haha
2017-09-14T16:48:23 < dongs> old pic
2017-09-14T16:49:05 < BrainDamage> ohh, so that's why the political message when you start vim, it's actually funds redirected to the gnaa
2017-09-14T16:49:13 < dongs> bingo
2017-09-14T16:53:21 < Steffanx> you use total commander too right?
2017-09-14T16:53:45 < Laurenceb> bbc pidgin was created so dongs can read da news
2017-09-14T16:55:00 < englishman> so how do i delete AMP
2017-09-14T16:55:12 < englishman> besides setting engrypted.google to homepage
2017-09-14T16:56:09 < Steffanx> dont use your phone to browse.
2017-09-14T16:56:36 < Steffanx> or go full-hacker and use duck duck go
2017-09-14T16:57:20 < Steffanx> my sources told me there is no other way.
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2017-09-14T17:06:43 < Thorn> does anyone know why I ordered this shit https://i.imgur.com/T9iJETG.jpg
2017-09-14T17:07:19 < Thorn> comes complete with a 'how to rate the purchase 5 stars' manual
2017-09-14T17:09:11 < tpw_rules> you're secretly bigclive
2017-09-14T17:09:17 < englishman> stoli and ebay dont mix?
2017-09-14T17:09:40 < Thorn> looks like there's some kind of monolithic module inside
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2017-09-14T17:16:22 < Steffanx> Buttons Thorn? or what is it?
2017-09-14T17:16:42 < Thorn> lights
2017-09-14T17:17:09 < Thorn> LAY37 stuff is in transit
2017-09-14T17:17:15 < Thorn> for extra bigclive credit
2017-09-14T17:23:43 < Laurenceb> holy shit my supervisor is on freenode
2017-09-14T17:23:46 < Laurenceb> shit shit shit
2017-09-14T17:24:02 < Laurenceb> status: fired
2017-09-14T17:24:29 < BrainDamage> time to add public logging to this channel
2017-09-14T17:24:36 < Laurenceb> englishman has spoken to him O_o
2017-09-14T17:25:02 < BrainDamage> nvm, it's in the topic, I'm dumb
2017-09-14T17:25:15 < BrainDamage> just give him the channel logs
2017-09-14T17:25:19 < englishman> lol
2017-09-14T17:25:28 < Laurenceb> I'm not going to say which channel...
2017-09-14T17:25:51 < englishman> who is it? so i know not to accidentally rat you out
2017-09-14T17:26:03 < Laurenceb> cool story bro
2017-09-14T17:26:25 < Laurenceb> not this channel... yet
2017-09-14T17:26:46 < englishman> if he's on freenode he's probably fine with your brand of depravity
2017-09-14T17:26:53 < Laurenceb> very true
2017-09-14T17:27:00 < Thorn> they're not very bright @ 12V, and only achieve the rated 20mA @ 18V
2017-09-14T17:27:58 < englishman> the number of ukfags ive spoken to is pretty small, i could just go ask them all
2017-09-14T17:28:13 < englishman> hai do you know laurent the epin troll from ##stm32
2017-09-14T17:28:28 < Laurenceb> status: fired
2017-09-14T17:28:32 < Steffanx> Just list all users of all channels and remove those Laurenceb is not in.
2017-09-14T17:29:28 < englishman> i bet its dominic clifton
2017-09-14T17:30:52 < englishman> *crickets*
2017-09-14T17:31:14  * Laurenceb runs away
2017-09-14T17:35:30 < Rob235> what what: https://imgur.com/a/wAvth
2017-09-14T17:35:34 < Rob235> in the butt
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2017-09-14T18:31:14 < Steffanx> Do you actually have to show them what you did Rob235, as in, in person?
2017-09-14T18:31:36 < Rob235> no, either video or pictures would even be fine
2017-09-14T18:31:43 < Steffanx> Heh
2017-09-14T18:31:44 < Steffanx> Ok
2017-09-14T18:32:26 < Rob235> I'm not making it fancy for them, I just wanted to try some fun 3d printing to learn from
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2017-09-14T18:34:22 < Steffanx> Dont forget to add a romeo and julia. Or will you draw them?
2017-09-14T18:34:45 < Rob235> I dun get it
2017-09-14T18:34:52 < Steffanx> Juliet*
2017-09-14T18:34:56 < Rob235> yea but why
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2017-09-14T18:35:29 < Steffanx> Such balcony needs that
2017-09-14T18:35:39 < Rob235> ahhh yes yes of course
2017-09-14T18:37:03 < Rob235> rapunzel is going to be holding juliets hair back while she pukes and shrek is gonna be buck futting romeo in the other room
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2017-09-14T18:38:03 < Steffanx> :)
2017-09-14T18:41:02 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/OqCjQrs
2017-09-14T18:51:49 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/KuLBybRR
2017-09-14T18:53:01  * englishman directs laurent's boss to jpalogs
2017-09-14T18:54:37 < Rob235> Laurenceb: is that you? I bet he has one of those buried penis syndrome little dingles that causes him to pee all over himself when he pretends like he can pee standing up
2017-09-14T18:55:03 < Laurenceb> poo poo pee pee
2017-09-14T18:55:18  * Laurenceb returns to reading "The God delusion"
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2017-09-14T19:28:26 < Laurenceb> woah
2017-09-14T19:28:40 < Laurenceb> latest freecad measure tool actually locks to corners properly
2017-09-14T19:28:46 < Laurenceb> such innovation
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2017-09-14T19:38:11 < englishman> hmm this polyimide is thin and clear enough its impossible to tell if its been burned off or not
2017-09-14T19:38:22 < englishman> have to booptest every connection and watch for shorts
2017-09-14T19:38:24 < englishman> fucking magnet wire
2017-09-14T19:39:34 < Steffanx> get a tin bath thing so you can tin the wires?
2017-09-14T19:45:42 < englishman> ooh i have one of those
2017-09-14T19:46:29  * englishman endorses steffy's IRC skill on dickedin
2017-09-14T19:48:41 < Steffanx> let me add that
2017-09-14T19:49:18 < Steffanx> Done
2017-09-14T19:50:17 < englishman> endorsed tek-chu's too while i was at it
2017-09-14T19:51:52 < Steffanx> oh no, you also got endorsed by some IS export.
2017-09-14T19:51:54 < Steffanx> expert
2017-09-14T19:52:59 < englishman> IS?
2017-09-14T19:53:11 < englishman> i thought he was a frontend guy
2017-09-14T19:59:27 < Cracki> islamic state?
2017-09-14T20:02:15 < englishman> welcome to ##stm32
2017-09-14T20:08:01 < Cracki> nuke the cubemx?
2017-09-14T20:10:43 < Steffanx> better nuke fedex, been waiting for some package all day long
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2017-09-14T21:43:21 < ohsix> balls
2017-09-14T21:43:45 < ohsix> like the third tiem i left laptop on desk overnight to finish something and i left a menu open so lunix didn't shut the display off
2017-09-14T21:51:33 < malinus> ohsix: just like right click on the battery and set it to presentation mode
2017-09-14T21:51:48 < malinus> oh it's a bad thing :P
2017-09-14T21:55:59 < Steffanx> Not sure what the problem is..
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2017-09-14T23:19:03 < kakimir> englishman: are you cooking your balls in the spa yet?
2017-09-14T23:19:35 < englishman> soon
2017-09-14T23:20:44 < Steffanx> so did your tin thingy work englishman?
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2017-09-14T23:32:49 < englishman> no, this shit is a huge pain in the ass
2017-09-14T23:33:09 < englishman> flame seems to burn off the kapton, but very slightly too hot and it oxidizes the copper too
2017-09-14T23:33:15 < englishman> plus the length of stripping can't be controlled
2017-09-14T23:33:19 < englishman> fuck magnet wire
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2017-09-14T23:42:36 < BrainDamage> try acetone
2017-09-14T23:44:20 < englishman> did
2017-09-14T23:44:27 < englishman> doesnt affect this coating
2017-09-14T23:44:33 < englishman> (polyimide)
2017-09-14T23:44:46 < englishman> anyway this guy sent me the wrong pcb so i have to redo half of it lol
2017-09-14T23:44:59 < englishman> f a n t a s t i c
2017-09-14T23:46:58 < ohsix> malinus: ya i click on the menu thing to turn the volume down, and don't click away; the focus stuff makes it so x can't do shit
2017-09-14T23:47:10 < ohsix> it's a pretty horrible area wrt. screen locking and shit
2017-09-14T23:47:55 < ohsix> just got rebuilt single extruder back on 3d printer and it's a good printer D: some dummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dude thought it was a good idea to get a dual extruder with a toolhead that weighs like 10lbs
2017-09-14T23:47:57 < kakimir> englishman: quick googlings say that it has resistance for everything but acids
2017-09-14T23:48:06 < ohsix> 4 years later nobody has got it to work worth a shit
2017-09-14T23:48:21 < ohsix> with the single extruder on there it looks like it is supposed to work \m/
2017-09-14T23:49:24 < kakimir> or halogens if you preffer englishman
2017-09-14T23:50:07 < kakimir> what acids you have available englishman
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2017-09-14T23:53:33 < PaulFertser> Aren't US geeks using metric?
2017-09-14T23:58:44 < englishman> would vinegar work
2017-09-14T23:59:11 < englishman> lets call the polyimide expert
2017-09-14T23:59:13 < englishman> ReadErr:
2017-09-14T23:59:25 < kakimir> is it acid?
2017-09-14T23:59:30 < englishman> citric acid
2017-09-14T23:59:41 < englishman> no
2017-09-14T23:59:42 < BrainDamage> acetic acid, a weakass acid
2017-09-14T23:59:43 < englishman> acetic acid
2017-09-14T23:59:58 < BrainDamage> do you have car paint stripper?
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2017-09-15T00:00:16 < ReadErr> englishman: DCM
2017-09-15T00:00:26 < ReadErr> it comes as paint remover
2017-09-15T00:00:30 < englishman> Dichloromethane
2017-09-15T00:00:34 < ReadErr> aircraft remover
2017-09-15T00:00:34 < BrainDamage> yup
2017-09-15T00:00:37 < ReadErr> yes
2017-09-15T00:00:58 < ReadErr> http://www.rustoleum.com/product-catalog/consumer-brands/auto/paint-chemicals/aircraft-remover
2017-09-15T00:01:08 < ReadErr> err not aerosol
2017-09-15T00:01:11 < kakimir> cover the copper englishman
2017-09-15T00:01:13 < kakimir> fist
2017-09-15T00:01:15 < kakimir> first
2017-09-15T00:01:23 < kakimir> then dip it
2017-09-15T00:01:23 < englishman> but the copper is underneath the polyimide
2017-09-15T00:01:31 < kakimir> completelly?
2017-09-15T00:01:31 < ReadErr> it wont effect copper
2017-09-15T00:01:35 < ReadErr> or shouldnt
2017-09-15T00:01:35 < englishman> its magnet wire
2017-09-15T00:01:40 < kakimir> even better
2017-09-15T00:01:44 < BrainDamage> dcm doesn't attack copper
2017-09-15T00:01:48 < ReadErr> it should go through the enamel fine
2017-09-15T00:01:55 < BrainDamage> but it'll etch every chip cover and the soldermask around
2017-09-15T00:02:12 < BrainDamage> so be careful if you use in the board
2017-09-15T00:02:22 < englishman> nono just to prep wire for tinning
2017-09-15T00:02:33 < BrainDamage> then dunk it, and clean it, and sodler fine
2017-09-15T00:05:12 < englishman> cant find that shit anywhere
2017-09-15T00:05:17 < englishman> sds for this https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.paint-thinner---946-ml.1000130962.html
2017-09-15T00:05:20 < englishman> has no DCM
2017-09-15T00:05:35 < kakimir> englishman: what are you doin?
2017-09-15T00:05:46 < englishman> soldering polyimide-coated wire
2017-09-15T00:06:48 < kakimir> when you find the solution tell me
2017-09-15T00:07:23 < kakimir> how do I even solder headphone cable coppers?
2017-09-15T00:07:37 < kakimir> I use wire and sandpaper and blade and everything
2017-09-15T00:07:42 < kakimir> *fire
2017-09-15T00:08:18 < kakimir> then I get one small dot of solder to attach to it and call it a day
2017-09-15T00:09:07 < englishman> aha
2017-09-15T00:09:14 < englishman> https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.paint-varnish-and-glue-remover---500-ml.1000122693.html
2017-09-15T00:09:22 < englishman> 60-100% DCM
2017-09-15T00:10:37 < kakimir> I need that shit
2017-09-15T00:14:24 < kakimir> all the paint removers in stores here are not efficient anymore
2017-09-15T00:15:10 < kakimir> I think you could eat that shit and it would taste like yugurt
2017-09-15T00:15:45 < kakimir> forums say only brand that works anymore is "nitromors"
2017-09-15T00:21:14 < kakimir> how good shelf life those paint removers have?
2017-09-15T01:00:32 < ohsix> Facebook sold ads targeting people interested in ‘How to burn jews’
2017-09-15T01:08:00 < kakimir> can't resist shekels
2017-09-15T01:08:45 < kakimir> ohsix: do you have any goodies for me?
2017-09-15T01:08:52 < kakimir> as in musics
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2017-09-15T01:15:01 < englishman> ReadErr: how long do i have to let it soak for
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2017-09-15T01:40:14 < englishman> doesnt seem to work on kapton ;'(
2017-09-15T01:42:24 < kakimir> leave it for the night
2017-09-15T01:42:44 < kakimir> should you mix the stuff with water or does it work plain?
2017-09-15T01:42:55 < kakimir> or should it be used plain?
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2017-09-15T02:42:46 < Laurenceb__> it's luck on internet dating o-clock
2017-09-15T02:43:03 < Laurenceb__> " I am Hungarian (born and raised) and I have been living in England since June 2012. I'm a vegetarian cat lady. "
2017-09-15T02:43:23 < Laurenceb__> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/140/270/b93.png
2017-09-15T02:44:04 < Laurenceb__> "I live with my parents. My dream is to be able to afford living alone"
2017-09-15T02:44:31 < Laurenceb__> "I also dream of learn how to drive in the future."
2017-09-15T02:45:22 < Laurenceb__> itt: women of /r9k/
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2017-09-15T03:16:06 < Laurenceb__> "I'm unable to turn my brain off and stop thinking about all the crappy memories and mistakes I've made in 24 years of failure"
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2017-09-15T03:16:16 < Laurenceb__> surely the one for me
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2017-09-15T03:36:04 < Getty> its happening: https://twitter.com/todbot/status/907335250195374081
2017-09-15T03:46:07 < Laurenceb__> something I don't understand: with online dating, how is it possible to be a wizard
2017-09-15T03:49:07 < englishman> you forgot one thing about wizards
2017-09-15T03:49:11 < englishman> they level up
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2017-09-15T03:50:21 < jadew> I need a vacation
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2017-09-15T03:54:22 < jadew> been working for more than two days on something, wrote about 50-60 tests and I decided that they're not rigurous enough, so I wrote a 5 lines helper function to generate the correct output and compare my results with that
2017-09-15T03:55:03 < jadew> took me a while to figure it out
2017-09-15T03:55:18 < jadew> (that I wasted the past 2 days)
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2017-09-15T04:06:48 < Thorn> ECE4305 Software Defined Radio Systems and Analysis https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBfTSoOqoRnOTBTLahXBlxaDUNWdZ3FdS
2017-09-15T04:19:07 < dongs> dongs
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2017-09-15T04:42:41 < dongs> why is he calling FEC a "channel decoder"
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2017-09-15T05:29:40 < dongs> https://gooky.en.alibaba.com/company_profile.html
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2017-09-15T05:31:32 < Thorn> these lights are dim enough to be pretty much unreadable under bright light https://i.imgur.com/9yodari.jpg
2017-09-15T05:32:59 < tpw_rules> what voltage
2017-09-15T05:33:08 < Thorn> 12V
2017-09-15T05:33:15 < tpw_rules> not 24?
2017-09-15T05:33:26 < dongs> you sure you didnt buy 234V shit
2017-09-15T05:33:27 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-15T05:34:13 < tpw_rules> industrial is all about 24
2017-09-15T05:34:21 < Thorn> it says 12 on the light itself
2017-09-15T05:34:34 < Thorn> there are 12, 24 and 220 options
2017-09-15T05:34:34 < tpw_rules> it's also chinese
2017-09-15T05:35:32 < Thorn> I tried them up to 20V, the current becomes >30mA (they are rated for 20mA)
2017-09-15T05:35:41 < Thorn> brighness improves but not that much
2017-09-15T05:35:53 < dongs> garbage
2017-09-15T05:35:56 < dongs> youve been trolled
2017-09-15T05:35:59 < dongs> what w ere you gonnause them in?
2017-09-15T05:36:07 < dongs> best korea launch alert light?
2017-09-15T05:38:20 < aandrew> https://imgur.com/mQsOZoO
2017-09-15T05:38:29 < aandrew> one of my UPSes decided to die this morning
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2017-09-15T05:40:59 < Cracki_> looks preggers
2017-09-15T05:41:11 < aandrew> yep
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2017-09-15T05:43:32 < soder> ups
2017-09-15T05:43:39 < soder> Useless Piece of Shit
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2017-09-15T05:45:47 < dongs> what could "you bing" mean just before a chink blocks me on aliexpress chat
2017-09-15T05:45:54 < dongs> are they being racist that I use google
2017-09-15T05:49:09 < aandrew> they can't get google so they don't trust it
2017-09-15T06:17:29 < jadew> pretty sure they get it, but google censors a lot of shit for them
2017-09-15T06:17:53 < jadew> maybe bing doesn't
2017-09-15T06:18:08 < dongs> uh no
2017-09-15T06:18:14 < dongs> its literally just not reachable
2017-09-15T06:18:31 < jadew> oh
2017-09-15T06:18:39 < dongs> same goes for google services on assdroid
2017-09-15T06:18:48 < dongs> cant even connect to login/auth/etc services
2017-09-15T06:19:31 < soder> charlie and the thyristor
2017-09-15T06:19:42 < dongs> are you pumping?
2017-09-15T06:19:51 < dongs> because it looks like youre pumping
2017-09-15T06:20:01 < soder> sup dongs
2017-09-15T06:20:10 < dongs> laying out a potential kickstarter
2017-09-15T06:20:51 < soder> im just being a complete fucking moron who cant check an scr with a meter
2017-09-15T06:21:26 < dongs> ask bro6 for advice
2017-09-15T06:21:32 < dongs> maybe he can google it faster than you
2017-09-15T06:21:45 < soder> dont have to ,  i got this http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/datasheet/81/93/7c/cf/4c/e7/4f/43/CD00280528.pdf/files/CD00280528.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00280528.pdf
2017-09-15T06:22:12 < dongs> BTW
2017-09-15T06:22:30 < soder> mmmyes?
2017-09-15T06:22:54 < dongs> 1200V/30A
2017-09-15T06:23:05 < dongs> thats a lot of niggawatts
2017-09-15T06:23:30 < soder> it is indeed
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2017-09-15T06:49:36 < aandrew> http://imgur.com/gallery/p7x0oHM <-- ohsix
2017-09-15T06:52:53 < dongs> i think you meant leoloo
2017-09-15T06:53:44 < dongs> ynm
2017-09-15T06:55:59 < soder> m
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2017-09-15T07:36:19 < Thorn> can I use recent nordick SDKs with nrf51? it doesn't seem to include 51 softdevices (s110 etc.)
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2017-09-15T07:36:51 < Thorn> "nrf5 sdk"
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2017-09-15T08:46:09 < Thorn> #define NRF_LOG_BACKEND_UART_BAUDRATE 30801920
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2017-09-15T09:36:05 < dongs> gawd
2017-09-15T09:36:09 < dongs> the only people ordering from allpcb
2017-09-15T09:36:12 < dongs> based on their reviews
2017-09-15T09:36:14 < dongs> are poor fucks
2017-09-15T09:36:18 < dongs> from like brazil/romania/poland
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2017-09-15T09:47:28 < dongs> damn there are so many of those SIM900 GPS tracker boards on there
2017-09-15T09:47:29 < dongs> wtf
2017-09-15T09:47:32 < dongs> why does everyone want to make one
2017-09-15T09:48:08 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/06/14/194651305.jpg wtf is thsi
2017-09-15T09:48:25 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/06/13/003139596.jpg
2017-09-15T09:48:40 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/06/10/191551649.jpg this looks like stvn's work
2017-09-15T09:51:31 < Thorn> lol NRF_LOG("%d", ...) accepts no more than 6 parameters
2017-09-15T09:51:41 < dongs> sounds like its some faggot macro
2017-09-15T09:51:44 < dongs> instead of proper varargs
2017-09-15T09:51:48 < dongs> i fucking hate that shit
2017-09-15T09:52:04 < Thorn> lots of macros
2017-09-15T09:52:28 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/05/02/163749491.jpg
2017-09-15T09:52:29 < Thorn> LOG_INTERNAL_1, LOGINTERNAL_2, LOG_INTERNAL_3, ...
2017-09-15T09:52:31 < dongs> vaguely interesting
2017-09-15T09:52:41 < dongs> looks like some kinda sequencer
2017-09-15T09:52:45 < dongs> and is that a freakin VFD
2017-09-15T09:52:53 < Thorn> oled
2017-09-15T09:52:57 < dongs> oh?
2017-09-15T09:53:11 < Thorn> I got 2 like it
2017-09-15T09:53:20 < Thorn> 128x32 iirc
2017-09-15T09:53:21 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/05/02/163747798.jpg
2017-09-15T09:53:30 < dongs> haha ok. so he muonted it into a hole in teh pcb
2017-09-15T09:54:34 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/04/27/035318700.jpg awesome USB socket placement
2017-09-15T09:54:49 < Thorn> control surface v2.1?
2017-09-15T09:54:57 < Thorn> such innnovation
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2017-09-15T09:58:51 < Thorn> that is some very small silkscreen font btw
2017-09-15T09:59:19 < Thorn> not everyone can do it
2017-09-15T10:00:21 < Thorn> why am I getting GAP packets with zero length data?
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2017-09-15T10:01:10 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/04/27/034620534.jpg
2017-09-15T10:01:13 < dongs> audiophile device found
2017-09-15T10:02:01 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/04/19/010133904.jpg bwaha made with kikecad
2017-09-15T10:02:19 < dongs> wait waht the fuck is that a sodimm card
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2017-09-15T10:05:06 < zyp> says picmxdimm, so I'll venture yes
2017-09-15T10:14:51 < dongs> must be ivan's work
2017-09-15T10:15:03 < dongs> @btinternet.com
2017-09-15T10:15:04 < dongs> confirmed
2017-09-15T10:15:07 < dongs> britfag
2017-09-15T10:15:12 < dongs> http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/04/19/010132629.jpg
2017-09-15T10:15:41 < dongs> i should email him and ask what the fuck hes trying to achieve
2017-09-15T10:17:09 < dongs> what dimm is that anyway
2017-09-15T10:17:17 < dongs> only has one notch
2017-09-15T10:17:45 < dongs> 20 pins before notch
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2017-09-15T10:18:22 < dongs> 80 after
2017-09-15T10:18:27 < dongs> 100-pin DIMM, used for printer SDRAM
2017-09-15T10:18:28 < dongs> wot
2017-09-15T10:18:41 < dongs> o wait its double sided so 200pin i guess
2017-09-15T10:18:47 < dongs> 200-pin DIMM, used for FPM/EDO DRAM in some Sun workstations and servers.
2017-09-15T10:18:54 < dongs> sounds about right
2017-09-15T10:19:00 < dongs> to implement with DICK32
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2017-09-15T10:19:03 < dongs> ynm
2017-09-15T10:22:02 < dongs> pinout of that shit isnt evne on internet
2017-09-15T10:22:53 < dongs> https://www.ebay.com/p/1576202984 ghmm that aint it either
2017-09-15T10:22:59 < dongs> notch is in center
2017-09-15T10:23:24 < dongs> https://www.amazon.com/dongs/dp/B00FAY6SVQ nor this
2017-09-15T10:23:29 < dongs> what the fuck shit is he making
2017-09-15T10:24:16 < c4017> isnt it jsut dd2 sodimm
2017-09-15T10:24:23 < c4017> ddr2
2017-09-15T10:25:40 < dongs> nobody is gonna do ddr2 on a fucking PIC
2017-09-15T10:25:48 < dongs> this has to be something ancient
2017-09-15T10:26:07 < dongs> plus none of the right side shit is connected
2017-09-15T10:26:12 < c4017> could just be using it as a readily available socket
2017-09-15T10:26:15 < dongs> there's a bunch of signals tehre
2017-09-15T10:26:22 < c4017> we do that shit at work
2017-09-15T10:26:25 < dongs> oh like a dickmx breakout taht plugs into sodimm?
2017-09-15T10:27:27 < dongs> i guess so
2017-09-15T10:28:18 < zyp> yeah, just like rpi cm
2017-09-15T10:28:23 < dongs> rite
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2017-09-15T10:58:16 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/oFiwaQx.png attn crt
2017-09-15T11:03:38 < Thorn> >barcode
2017-09-15T11:03:45 < dongs> ya man i know
2017-09-15T11:06:06 < zyp> heh
2017-09-15T11:06:20 < zyp> so it's still not legal in aus?
2017-09-15T11:06:43 < dongs> stvn would know
2017-09-15T11:10:59 < zyp> haha
2017-09-15T11:11:00 < zyp> "Additionally, same-sex couples who get married in countries where same-sex marriage is legal cannot divorce within Australia when they come back due to the same-sex marriage ban."
2017-09-15T11:12:36 < dongs> nice
2017-09-15T11:12:41 < dongs> once you're in, youre fucked
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2017-09-15T11:19:39 < Steffanx> Isnt that the idea of marriage?
2017-09-15T11:20:06 < dongs> looks like explolsion on london tube
2017-09-15T11:20:15 < Steffanx> 4 realz?
2017-09-15T11:20:16 < dongs> laurenceb claims responsibility
2017-09-15T11:20:17 < dongs> y
2017-09-15T11:20:25 < dongs> http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/854476/parsons-green-explosion-tube-train-london-terror
2017-09-15T11:36:28 < dongs> so
2017-09-15T11:36:48 < dongs> i think im gonna have to resolev this dell cockup by adding a backlight killswitch
2017-09-15T11:36:58 < dongs> im fucking tired of coming back to computer and watching it crash slowly
2017-09-15T11:37:07 < dongs> because one (or both) of the dells fail to power up from standby
2017-09-15T11:37:22 < dongs> if I can just flick backlight off before leaving i can turn off DPMS and leave it like that
2017-09-15T11:37:35 < dongs> that, or get dell to pay me monthly for my electrical bill
2017-09-15T11:37:39 < dongs> for leaving 3 screns on 24/7
2017-09-15T11:37:51 < dongs> fucking tired of losing work and open windows/order etc
2017-09-15T11:44:48 < Steffanx> Still not sure what to say about that window order thing :P
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2017-09-15T11:46:58 < dongs> other than autism?
2017-09-15T11:47:00 < dongs> i know, say it.
2017-09-15T11:47:05 < zyp> what's the problem?
2017-09-15T11:47:12 < dongs> what problem?
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2017-09-15T11:47:20 < zyp> dell problem
2017-09-15T11:47:26 < dongs> oh, the same shit
2017-09-15T11:47:33 < dongs> not warking up from dpms power save
2017-09-15T11:47:50 < dongs> and this crashes nvidia garbage because its a fucking displayport MST thing and its part of mosaic setup etc etc
2017-09-15T11:48:11 < dongs> er, waking up
2017-09-15T11:48:27 < zyp> wat
2017-09-15T11:48:28 < dongs> nvlddmkm.sys
2017-09-15T11:48:31 < dongs> wat wat
2017-09-15T11:49:46 < zyp> so monitor doesn't turn on after it's been off?
2017-09-15T11:49:56 < dongs> no, i cant turn it off because its fuckinhg dispalyport
2017-09-15T11:50:03 < dongs> i can only let it go into DPMS sleep
2017-09-15T11:50:19 < zyp> that's what I mean
2017-09-15T11:50:27 < dongs> displayport turn off = main link + aux link stops  = computer sees it as disconnect
2017-09-15T11:50:32 < dongs> which is even worse than shit crashing
2017-09-15T11:50:41 < zyp> oh, heh
2017-09-15T11:50:42 < dongs> because all my windows mvoe around and fuck up z order etc
2017-09-15T11:51:06 < zyp> yeah, that's annoying
2017-09-15T11:51:24 < dongs> extremely
2017-09-15T11:52:00 < zyp> can't you put some shit in between that keeps the link to the computer even if the monitor link dies?
2017-09-15T11:52:16 < dongs> i made something like that
2017-09-15T11:52:22 < dongs> displayport is a bit of a cunt tho
2017-09-15T11:52:25 < dongs> you need link training and shit
2017-09-15T11:52:30 < zyp> idk. about displayport, but for hdmi I guess any cheap splitter would work as a repeater
2017-09-15T11:52:36 < dongs> part of the thing im doing with this aux rx/tx shit im experimenting with
2017-09-15T11:52:45 < dongs> hdmi doesnt matter because even if you turn off hdmi monitor its fine
2017-09-15T11:52:46 < zyp> ah
2017-09-15T11:52:50 < dongs> hpd stays on
2017-09-15T11:52:54 < dongs> so computer never knows monitor is out
2017-09-15T11:54:18 < zyp> my computer throws a "hey, monitor topology is changing, o nm, it's the same" every time I turn on the tv
2017-09-15T11:54:48 < zyp> which got annoying enough that I've started unplugging the hdmi cable from the computer when I don't use it
2017-09-15T11:55:39 < dongs> VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE (116)
2017-09-15T11:55:39 < dongs> Attempt to reset the display driver and recover from timeout failed.
2017-09-15T11:55:56 < dongs> yeah its NV trash failing probly something mst/mosaic related shit
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2017-09-15T12:28:29 < tomeaton17> Trying to debug this function https://hastebin.com/esupamanel.cpp it never sends 0x10, on the i2c bus, but it alternates between 0x1 and 0x21 neither of which I assigned to the variable. What is going on??
2017-09-15T12:29:01 < tomeaton17> Is it some sort of timing problem?
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2017-09-15T12:34:05 < lomas> Can I use the hardware CRC of STM32F051R8 controller for modbus ?
2017-09-15T12:34:20 < dongs> does modbugs use CRC32?
2017-09-15T12:34:24 < dongs> if so: yes
2017-09-15T12:34:34 < zyp> if it's the right polynomial
2017-09-15T12:34:49 < zyp> or if it's configurable
2017-09-15T12:34:52 < Laurenceb> lul @ Londonistan tube
2017-09-15T12:34:58 < Laurenceb> epin bombmaking fail
2017-09-15T12:35:27 < zyp> modbus is apparently CRC-16
2017-09-15T12:35:38 < Laurenceb> perman00bs prob used hair dye or something
2017-09-15T12:35:59 < lomas> yes modbus is CRC-16
2017-09-15T12:36:04 < dongs> then no.
2017-09-15T12:36:14 < zyp> dongs, you sure?
2017-09-15T12:36:18 < dongs> yo usure wat?
2017-09-15T12:36:34 < dongs> does doing crc32 and & 0xFFFF work?
2017-09-15T12:37:16 < zyp> hmm
2017-09-15T12:37:33 < zyp> apparently f051 has fixed polynomial
2017-09-15T12:37:44 < zyp> but f07x and f09x has configurable and can do CRC-16
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2017-09-15T12:38:33 < dongs> there is a 09x?
2017-09-15T12:38:36 < tomeaton17> Yeah the fixed polynomial is really annoying
2017-09-15T12:38:36 < dongs> i thought it ended at 7x
2017-09-15T12:38:37 < dongs> is that new
2017-09-15T12:38:45 < zyp> idk, it's listed in RM0091
2017-09-15T12:38:53 < dongs> hmm 2015
2017-09-15T12:39:31 < tomeaton17> And you cant convert to CRC16 like that
2017-09-15T12:40:17 < zyp> crc is all about using the right polynomial
2017-09-15T12:40:20 < dongs> i didnt think so
2017-09-15T12:41:20 < tomeaton17> Indeed
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2017-09-15T12:47:14 < lomas> yeah as zyp says its listed in RM0091 but for polynomial setting function driver says "Only applicable for STM32F042 and STM32F072 devices"
2017-09-15T12:49:42 < karlp> ah sharepoint, where you need a special button for "copy url" because the url itself is unusably gross and polluted.
2017-09-15T12:53:41 < zyp> eww, sharepoint
2017-09-15T12:53:46 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/ZF9Kdsj the fail is epin
2017-09-15T12:54:05 < Laurenceb>  #NotAllLidlCustomers
2017-09-15T13:00:44 < tomeaton17> Has anyone ever had a problem where the pointer to an array does not have the same values as the array its pointing to?? I am confused
2017-09-15T13:00:59 < dongs> yeah, wehn you fuck up your pointers
2017-09-15T13:02:10 < tomeaton17> Yeah tbf I just realised the array won't exist when the function is finished
2017-09-15T13:02:38 < zyp> haha, pointer to array on stack?
2017-09-15T13:02:46 < dongs> gg
2017-09-15T13:03:10 < dongs> i bet you declare your variables mid-scope too
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2017-09-15T13:03:44 < tomeaton17> during development cba to scroll
2017-09-15T13:03:51 < dongs> nope
2017-09-15T13:03:55 < dongs> you write shit correctly from start
2017-09-15T13:03:59 < dongs> you'll never fix it later
2017-09-15T13:04:06 < dongs> same goes for indent/style
2017-09-15T13:04:48 < zyp> idk, I write a lot of shit code while making stuff work
2017-09-15T13:05:18 < dongs> i write shit and it just works
2017-09-15T13:05:30 < dongs> and if it doesnt i come complain in here
2017-09-15T13:05:37 < zyp> once it works I can refactor/rewrite it into something nice while testing that I don't break it again
2017-09-15T13:06:01 < tomeaton17> Thats the classic workflow
2017-09-15T13:06:24 < tomeaton17> Whats wrong with declaring locally anyway
2017-09-15T13:06:53 < zyp> nothing, assuming that's the appropriate lifetime for whatever you're instancing
2017-09-15T13:07:01 < dongs> not valid C, makes you more sloppy with a bunch of shitty vars everywehre
2017-09-15T13:07:26 < karlp> yeah, sharepoint cloud is perhaps 0.1% better than having to maintain the windows file sharing shit we used to have.
2017-09-15T13:07:33 < zyp> stack objects has the same lifetime as the function you declare them in, in a lot of cases that's the correct option
2017-09-15T13:07:53 < karlp> it's honestly a lot better than it was ~5-6 years ago when I was using it, and lightyears better than when i first used it ~10 years ago.
2017-09-15T13:07:57 < karlp> still crap though
2017-09-15T13:08:01 < zyp> it's certainly better than putting every single shit on heap
2017-09-15T13:08:26 < tomeaton17> I think it makes it easier to read declaring locally as possible
2017-09-15T13:08:35 < karlp> dongs: fuck your "all variables at the top" style
2017-09-15T13:08:37 < karlp> it's fucking bullshit
2017-09-15T13:08:59 < tomeaton17> Gonna have to agree with that
2017-09-15T13:09:01 < zyp> oh, is that what we're discussing?
2017-09-15T13:09:01 < dongs> nope, its prefect
2017-09-15T13:09:08 < zyp> yeah, that's also dumb
2017-09-15T13:09:12 < dongs> either top or start of scope
2017-09-15T13:09:15 < dongs> but not in the middle of shit
2017-09-15T13:09:18 < dongs> that just looks dumb as fuck
2017-09-15T13:09:25 < tomeaton17> Fucking finally the damn chip acks my crc
2017-09-15T13:10:16 < zyp> I tend to declare locals once I have a value to put into them, avoiding uninitialized variables
2017-09-15T13:10:47  * karlp too
2017-09-15T13:10:51 < tomeaton17> My coworker is actually disgusting they eat and drink like an animal
2017-09-15T13:11:09 < tomeaton17> Do you really need to slurp your coffee wtf
2017-09-15T13:11:11 < dongs> i tend to initialize locals, so I don't have to worry about uninitialized shit at al
2017-09-15T13:11:17 < dongs> thats part of the rason for keeping them on top of scope
2017-09-15T13:11:24 < dongs> so you can see all the shit at once and knoiw its all initialized
2017-09-15T13:11:47 < tomeaton17> Just initialise it before you use it and then you don't have to scroll to the top to see if its initialised
2017-09-15T13:11:49 < zyp> why put some dumb value into a variable if you're going to overwrite it later anyway?
2017-09-15T13:15:01 < dongs> i bet you do shit like for (int i = 0
2017-09-15T13:15:08 < dongs> which is the fucking worst
2017-09-15T13:16:53 < Steffanx> Lol why?
2017-09-15T13:17:38 < tomeaton17> I do not do that
2017-09-15T13:18:34 < Steffanx> int i = 0;.... More lines of code; for(; i < x; i++) is much cooler
2017-09-15T13:19:47 < karlp> lomas: are you trying to redo you rown modbus implementation for fun?
2017-09-15T13:19:52 < karlp> lomas: what's wrong with freemodbus?
2017-09-15T13:19:59 < dongs> probly the "free" part
2017-09-15T13:20:29 < karlp> well, it's certainliy unmaintained :|
2017-09-15T13:20:47 < karlp> heh, do you really do c89 for loops dongs?
2017-09-15T13:21:12 < Steffanx> Even $400 for the sila modbus stack aint too bad
2017-09-15T13:21:25 < Steffanx> Cant easily beat that
2017-09-15T13:22:22 < zyp> dongs, what's wrong with that? for loops have their own scope so declaring in the loop initializer is literally "start of scope"
2017-09-15T13:22:42 < lomas> Lol, karlp, instead of full modbus I am just using command 3 and 16 for reading/writing from/to slave
2017-09-15T13:23:50 < lomas> slave has a STM controller and an EEPROM basically master commands for writing/reading some bytes from/to EEPROM
2017-09-15T13:24:25 < karlp> lomas: that's all most people implement.
2017-09-15T13:24:48 < karlp> you just disable all the functions you don't need.
2017-09-15T13:24:59 < karlp> still, why are you implementing it again yourself?
2017-09-15T13:25:24 < karlp> (you'll fuck up the timing for _sure_ and behave badly when you ever try and interrop with other masters and more devices on the bus)
2017-09-15T13:25:37 < lomas> address of holding registers will be larger than the standard modbus value
2017-09-15T13:25:48 < karlp> "standard" ?
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2017-09-15T13:27:09 < lomas> I mean in my case I will be dealing with a lot of registers which exceed the modbus standard limit
2017-09-15T13:27:17 < karlp> what do you think the standard limit is?
2017-09-15T13:28:00 < lomas> Is not it 10000 x 16 each ?
2017-09-15T13:28:11 < karlp> have you actually read the standard? (it's not very long)
2017-09-15T13:28:21 < karlp> you have the full 16bit address space
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2017-09-15T13:28:32 < karlp> some shitty old tools only allow using 10000 of them.
2017-09-15T13:28:49 < lomas> oh oh..
2017-09-15T13:29:09 < dongs> https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/ex-cia-boss-resigns-harvard-after-chelsea-manning-hire-n801341 lol
2017-09-15T13:29:18 < lomas> thank you karlp
2017-09-15T13:29:26 < karlp> remember also that it's all virtual addresses.
2017-09-15T13:29:35 < zyp> well, if you exceed 10k, it wouldn't be too surprising if you exceed 65k too
2017-09-15T13:29:42 < karlp> you can have a register that says "switch to range xxx" if you need more than 65k
2017-09-15T13:30:05 < karlp> you don't even have to have sequential things at all.
2017-09-15T13:30:25 < karlp> you can make a single register read from say, 0x2000 return one thing, but a 64 register read from the same address return entirely different data.
2017-09-15T13:31:51 < karlp> http://modbus.org/docs/Modbus_Application_Protocol_V1_1b3.pdf and http://modbus.org/docs/Modbus_over_serial_line_V1_02.pdf is all you want to read
2017-09-15T13:32:00 < karlp> and most of the latter isn't very interesting
2017-09-15T13:32:54 < zyp> hmm
2017-09-15T13:34:25 < karlp> Steffanx: I take it you're using the sila stack somewhere then? because theyu don't have any rpices online I can see
2017-09-15T13:34:29 < zyp> for this workproject I'm doing I specced that we need a way to force-trigger bootloader, so we added a "service connector"
2017-09-15T13:35:04 < karlp> oh no, there it is
2017-09-15T13:35:40 < zyp> "what signals do you want in it?" "some GPIOs, TTL levels are fine, maybe use UART-capable ones for two of them"
2017-09-15T13:36:29 < zyp> I figured the UART would be useful for development and testing
2017-09-15T13:36:53 < Steffanx> Yes karlp
2017-09-15T13:36:53 < zyp> I'm currently running a uart shell on the devboard I'm working on
2017-09-15T13:37:03 < lomas> okay karlp thank you very much, hope to get suggestions in future also. :)
2017-09-15T13:37:14 < zyp> and now people want to add all sorts of functionality to this interface
2017-09-15T13:37:37 < zyp> "hey, you have a serial interface, can we use that for emergency control if the bus is down?"
2017-09-15T13:37:59 < Steffanx> Oh make it 400 euro karlp: https://www.embedded-solutions.at/modbus-slave-subscription
2017-09-15T13:38:31 < zyp> that makes me think that ttl level uart is probably not a super good idea after all :p
2017-09-15T13:39:30 < zyp> so I'm tempted to spec CAN or something for next rev
2017-09-15T13:39:49 < Steffanx> It lools very similar to freemodbus, not sure if there is a relation between the 2
2017-09-15T13:39:52 < karlp> didn't you just need a button?
2017-09-15T13:39:57 < Steffanx> @ karlp
2017-09-15T13:40:01 < karlp> Steffanx: oh, probably teh same guy,
2017-09-15T13:40:19 < karlp> Commercial support is available from Embedded Solutions.
2017-09-15T13:40:45 < karlp> I would presume they've done some fixes and feature expansions since then though
2017-09-15T13:40:58 < karlp> freemodbus 1.5 code is kinda static and stuck in history a bit.
2017-09-15T13:41:14 < karlp> no time to try and pull all the disparate fixes around and restart it as a public project :)
2017-09-15T13:41:51 < zyp> karlp, a button would be too accessible again
2017-09-15T13:42:30 < zyp> and doesn't let you do anything else that you could do with a dedicated service port
2017-09-15T13:43:09 < karlp> sure, whatever.  I would have thought you could use a simple button to switch modes of the "normal" port but yeah, service port is fun too.
2017-09-15T13:43:46 < karlp> dongs: re: http://file.allpcb.com/comment/17/04/27/035318700.jpg I bet that recessed usb port is just so they can use the same thing for dev/produciton, and don't have to go making soldered on cables, it's just for doign captive leads
2017-09-15T13:44:08 < karlp> you can see the holes for putting a zip tie in
2017-09-15T13:44:27 < dongs> ya
2017-09-15T13:44:57 < dongs> too bad its a fucking PSOC board
2017-09-15T13:45:14 < karlp> medial shit
2017-09-15T13:45:18 < karlp> never had to make sense.
2017-09-15T13:45:55 < karlp> hrm. ftdi driver/usb stack is busted again.
2017-09-15T13:46:03 < dongs> you got cloned
2017-09-15T13:46:20 < karlp> if I reopen the uart too often, after a day or so, the stack gets fucked.
2017-09-15T13:46:30 < karlp> and even rmmod ftdi_sio and insmod ftdi_sio doesn't restore it.
2017-09-15T13:46:46 < karlp> I have to rmmod/insmod all the wya up the usb stack (or just reboot)
2017-09-15T13:46:55 < dongs> haha, lunix
2017-09-15T13:46:58 < dongs> sorry to hear that
2017-09-15T13:46:58 < karlp> yup.
2017-09-15T13:47:15 < dongs> last time any kinda module crashed for me reboot was the only solution
2017-09-15T13:47:19 < dongs> you cant rmmod a shit once it crashed
2017-09-15T13:47:24 < karlp> it hasn't crashed,
2017-09-15T13:47:30 < karlp> it's just trying to do things and failing.
2017-09-15T13:47:37 < karlp> ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: ftdi_set_termios urb failed to set baudrate
2017-09-15T13:47:54 < zyp> tried replugging the device in addition to reloading ftdi_sio?
2017-09-15T13:48:09 < karlp> nah, ftdi is soldered on.
2017-09-15T13:48:24 < zyp> maybe device just needs a bus reset
2017-09-15T13:48:25 < karlp> trying to find the hub magic shit to try and ask it to reset the port
2017-09-15T13:48:32 < zyp> ah
2017-09-15T13:48:48 < karlp> but the notes on the ninterweb are wildly different, and none of them have any affect.
2017-09-15T13:48:51 < zyp> you have libusb_reset_device()
2017-09-15T13:49:00 < karlp> tempted to just grep log and reboot.
2017-09-15T13:49:08 < karlp> shits fucked if this comes up anyway,
2017-09-15T13:50:48 < karlp> huh, weird, this one, (much newer kernel) seems to be _sometimes_ recovering itself.
2017-09-15T13:50:51 < karlp> precious
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2017-09-15T14:21:13 < tomeaton17> Why does the STM32 HAL library never ack the last byte it receives?
2017-09-15T14:21:36 < dongs> pro ly cuz youre on F103 and you need to know total i2c data length on that one
2017-09-15T14:22:10 < dongs> or err, isnt that how you say you're done reading, by nack'ing the last one?
2017-09-15T14:22:40 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-15T14:22:49 < dongs> thats how you signal end of read.
2017-09-15T14:22:58 < dongs> nack, then stop
2017-09-15T14:27:13 < tomeaton17> Ah ok cool
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2017-09-15T15:05:02 < karlp> tomeaton17: https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/blob/master/lib/stm32/common/i2c_common_v1.c#L508-L510
2017-09-15T15:08:54 < tomeaton17> That explains cool its the protocol
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2017-09-15T15:20:36 < Rob235> so I bought this guy, anyone ever use something like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/112070462271
2017-09-15T15:21:08 < Rob235> it was real expensive so I hope it was worth it :)
2017-09-15T15:23:43 < Thorn> looks like standard serial flash, I have a driver for F0
2017-09-15T15:25:34 < Rob235> im using a nxp lpc1768, there should be some mbed library out there
2017-09-15T15:25:51 < Thorn> I wonder how long the Chip Erase command will take on a 32Mbit chip. I used 4Mbit and it was taking ~5 seconds
2017-09-15T15:26:08 < Thorn> LOL 50...80 seconds
2017-09-15T15:27:33 < Thorn> are they serious
2017-09-15T15:31:00 < Rob235> really?
2017-09-15T15:31:09 < Rob235> damn, I should have looked more into it before I spent $1.58 :P
2017-09-15T15:31:33 < Thorn> http://www.elinux.org/images/f/f5/Winbond-w25q32.pdf page 51 last row
2017-09-15T15:32:04 < zyp> chip erase speed isn't really all that interesting though
2017-09-15T15:34:54 < Rob235> I dont even remember how I planned on using this... I think I planned on writing gcode to it and then storing indices in ram for execution order  because there wasnt enough ram
2017-09-15T15:35:35 < zyp> wat
2017-09-15T15:39:29 < Rob235> my project is to use simulated annealing with hill climbing or something to find the best order to execute drawing commands in (quickest time) with two arms drawing the same image and without them bumping into each other.  the gcode commands can take up a lot of space so I was gonna flash the gcode file and then run the algorithm to sort it by just storing the location of the commands instead of the commands themselves in ram.
2017-09-15T15:39:30 < Rob235>   I dont know if that will work as I want as Ive never messed with flash but we'll see
2017-09-15T15:40:14 < Thorn> why not do it on a PC
2017-09-15T15:40:30 < Thorn> as a preprocessing step
2017-09-15T15:40:35 < zyp> exactly
2017-09-15T15:41:03 < Rob235> yea thats plan B if this was too slow.  I would just like a standalone machine if possible
2017-09-15T15:42:17 < Rob235> the de0 nano soc is another option, that has 1GB ddr3, cortex A9 and fpga
2017-09-15T15:42:31 < Rob235> I havent really messed around with mine
2017-09-15T15:45:39 < englishman> sounds like a job for SBC like intel edison
2017-09-15T15:46:27 < Thorn> <englishman> speaking of which, I've got some for a good price
2017-09-15T15:47:17 < Rob235> a Southern Baptist Convention? I don't see how that would help :)
2017-09-15T15:47:22 < fest> Rob235: on stm32 you can connect it to qspi and configure for memory-mapped mode where the contents of flash can be accessed just like SRAM
2017-09-15T15:48:24 < fest> probably works the same on nxp
2017-09-15T15:48:25 < Rob235> the flash chip I got? Maybe thats what I planned on doing because that is useful :)
2017-09-15T15:48:37 < Rob235> i'll have to do some reading
2017-09-15T15:51:26 < Rob235> although I'm thinking a computer will probably be needed for any decent length gcode file. I'd like it to be able to handle high detailed images
2017-09-15T15:53:07 < Rob235> simulated annealing sounds like it needs a lot of computing powwer
2017-09-15T15:55:56 < Rob235> so I guess I'll give in and have the computer process it and send the gcode file pre-ordered and save it on the sd card
2017-09-15T15:56:32 < Rob235> so then it can at least print on its own if the file has already been transfered over wifi
2017-09-15T16:01:32 < Laurenceb> a terror attack?
2017-09-15T16:01:37 < Laurenceb> well imagine my shock
2017-09-15T16:03:44 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJw3GZlUMAMavFn.jpg
2017-09-15T16:06:34 < Laurenceb> I guess its to be expect from someone retarded enough to expect virgins in heaven
2017-09-15T16:06:44 < Laurenceb> but don't they test this shit even once
2017-09-15T16:06:55 < Laurenceb> guess I should shut up before I give them ideas
2017-09-15T16:08:47 < Laurenceb> if terrorists were coders: "it compiles? Ship it!"
2017-09-15T16:21:23 < Steffanx> anyone interested in show where Mr Ivan Reedman appeared in? Soon i'll have it from my new canadian "friend"
2017-09-15T16:21:34 < Steffanx> or where he was supposed to be in, or whatever
2017-09-15T16:22:44 < Laurenceb> maybe Ivan Reedman was the "bomber"
2017-09-15T16:22:50 < Laurenceb> would explain the utter failure
2017-09-15T16:24:29 < tomeaton17> This chip is actually garbage according to the datasheet math its internal die temperature is below absolute zero
2017-09-15T16:24:49 < Laurenceb> > what is calibration
2017-09-15T16:25:03 < tomeaton17> Its factory calibrated
2017-09-15T16:28:29 < tomeaton17> Ah it seems to be a bit more reasonable now
2017-09-15T16:28:50 < Laurenceb> the more you think about it the more it make sense
2017-09-15T16:28:59 < Laurenceb> Ivan Reedman is the tube bomber
2017-09-15T16:29:11 < Laurenceb> >it was an utter failure
2017-09-15T16:29:16 < Laurenceb> >there was no testing
2017-09-15T16:29:22 < Laurenceb> >he has the motivation
2017-09-15T16:30:33 < Steffanx> if you did the bombing it would have ended with just a simulation in methlab :P
2017-09-15T16:30:59 < Laurenceb>  "assume the infidels are spherical 75kg masses"
2017-09-15T16:31:51 < zyp> spherical humans tend to have more than 75kg masses
2017-09-15T16:32:29 < Laurenceb> allahu_ackbar
2017-09-15T16:32:29 < Laurenceb> error: 'allahu_ackbar' undefined near line 1 column 1
2017-09-15T16:32:45 < Steffanx> tomeaton17 certainly didnt vote for the brexit. as his hostname says .eu :)
2017-09-15T16:33:20 < Laurenceb> https://i.redditmedia.com/yGrTxRlLR622UsIM5cGQsWLWvOu5j9acQjqKpnfxP0c.jpg?w=384&s=45c83b0ad4e5258df2d27dcafbd80771
2017-09-15T16:33:30 < tomeaton17> Are you sure about that
2017-09-15T16:33:37 < Laurenceb> I'm obviously the bottom left
2017-09-15T16:33:39 < tomeaton17> Thats just cos my vps is in france
2017-09-15T16:33:46 < tomeaton17> And I was too young to vote anyway
2017-09-15T16:34:18 < zyp> dongs, is RM46L852 available in china? just curious how price would be
2017-09-15T16:37:40 < zyp> ZWT (i.e. BGA) variant
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2017-09-15T16:47:36 < Laurenceb> that thing looks hardcore
2017-09-15T16:47:55 < Laurenceb> but what do you do when you detect a failure?
2017-09-15T16:48:08 < Laurenceb> with triple lockstep I guess you can do some voting
2017-09-15T16:48:20 < zyp> it's only double
2017-09-15T16:48:43 < zyp> so it triggers a reset or something
2017-09-15T16:49:36 < zyp> haven't spent much time on that part yet, I can make stuff safe and reliable after I've actually made stuff work
2017-09-15T16:49:57 < karlp> somethign something must be designed from beginning something something
2017-09-15T16:50:05 < Laurenceb> yeah I was going to say
2017-09-15T16:50:23 < Laurenceb> wonder if Ada has built in support for managing this sort of thing
2017-09-15T16:50:35 < zyp> probably going to slap safertos on it
2017-09-15T16:51:19 < zyp> they have this porting guide from freertos, so I figure I'll make it work with freertos first then port it
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2017-09-15T17:00:53 < Steffanx> hah mr reedman is indeed in the show. hiding behind sunglasses.
2017-09-15T17:01:06 < Laurenceb> https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-41277181
2017-09-15T17:02:21 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/MhbA62U
2017-09-15T17:02:26 < Laurenceb>  "is he dead yet?"
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2017-09-15T17:40:22 < Steffanx> lol Fleck, good luck :P
2017-09-15T17:40:29 < Fleck> right? :D
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2017-09-15T18:17:35 < englishman> reeeeeeedman
2017-09-15T18:19:56 < englishman> Thorn where was your livestream link for cassini
2017-09-15T18:20:18 < Laurenceb> >be Ivan Reedman
2017-09-15T18:20:18 < Laurenceb> >Zano fails, be depressed
2017-09-15T18:20:18 < Laurenceb> >here try this cool religion: Islam
2017-09-15T18:20:18 < Laurenceb> >learn that infidels caused Zano to fail because they are racist
2017-09-15T18:20:18 < Laurenceb> >decide to kill infidels with Lidl bomb
2017-09-15T18:20:18 < Laurenceb> >what is testing?
2017-09-15T18:20:20 < Laurenceb> >epin fail
2017-09-15T18:20:36 < Laurenceb> >Zano 2.0
2017-09-15T18:21:13 < englishman> "wow what a cool religion" - nobody, ever
2017-09-15T18:21:25 < Laurenceb> apart from Reedman
2017-09-15T18:21:35 < Laurenceb> who thought "wow what a cool drone"
2017-09-15T18:21:47 < Laurenceb> see it all makes sense
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2017-09-15T18:24:52 < Laurenceb> I bet they did something epically retarded like mix toilet cleaner with flour and expect it to explode
2017-09-15T18:33:31 < Laurenceb> http://brightcove04.o.brightcove.com/4221396001/4221396001_5486197180001_5486189438001-vs.jpg?pubId=4221396001&videoId=5486189438001
2017-09-15T18:38:43 < Laurenceb> how do I connectors http://www.st.com/content/ccc/fragment/sales_and_marketing/banner/homepage_banner/group0/9b/fe/6a/63/4e/4a/4a/16/STEVAL-ESC001_for_drones_hp_banner/files/BN_Homepage_ElecSpeedController_EN.jpg/_jcr_content/translations/en.BN_Homepage_ElecSpeedController_EN.jpg
2017-09-15T18:40:54 < englishman> heh
2017-09-15T18:41:47 < Laurenceb> looks like the data cables are about one nudge away from shorting out too
2017-09-15T18:42:40  * Laurenceb just went to a wurk meeting
2017-09-15T18:43:07 < Laurenceb> someone suggested "big data" and "machine lurnin" as a way to correlate vibration with vehicle speed
2017-09-15T18:46:02 < Laurenceb> I should make a random buzzword button
2017-09-15T18:46:16 < Laurenceb> it shouts out a random buzzword when you hit the button
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2017-09-15T18:48:41 < tomeaton17> I take back what I said earlier this chip is still a bitch
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2017-09-15T19:18:42 < aandrew> "machine learnin'" hahahaa
2017-09-15T19:18:49 < aandrew> high tech redneck
2017-09-15T19:20:52 < Steffanx> machine learning isnt a buzz word. Better call it deep learning
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2017-09-15T19:27:05 < englishman> stefs wheres the ivan
2017-09-15T19:27:12 < englishman> is he invading canada
2017-09-15T19:27:48 < Steffanx> No, he is being copied from canada to dutchland
2017-09-15T19:28:27 < Steffanx> want a copy?
2017-09-15T19:30:57 < englishman> yes plz sir
2017-09-15T19:31:14 < englishman> hello welcome
2017-09-15T19:32:01 < Steffanx> thats a different video
2017-09-15T19:33:09 < Steffanx> its pretty boring btw
2017-09-15T19:33:09 < englishman> so ivan has a real job job
2017-09-15T19:33:16 < Steffanx> yes hacking cars
2017-09-15T19:33:27 < englishman> so, not a real job
2017-09-15T19:34:25 < Steffanx> let me youtube the episode
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2017-09-15T19:48:20 < Steffanx> This video has been removed because it is too long.
2017-09-15T19:48:21 < Steffanx> faggots
2017-09-15T19:48:29 < englishman> wut
2017-09-15T19:49:58 < Laurenceb> it incites hatred of the time
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2017-09-15T20:00:35 < Steffanx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQBQG4gs6hc there you go, the one and only reedman show.
2017-09-15T20:02:00 < englishman> private vidyo
2017-09-15T20:03:06 < Steffanx> no, private?
2017-09-15T20:03:10 < Steffanx> i set it to non-listed
2017-09-15T20:03:33 < Steffanx> bastard set it to private after it failed to upload i guess
2017-09-15T20:03:44 < Steffanx> done mr englishman
2017-09-15T20:03:58 < englishman> thanks stefs
2017-09-15T20:06:05 < englishman> is this just going to be some dumb amplification attack from 5 years ago
2017-09-15T20:06:25 < englishman> "specialized equipment" -> $50 on aliexpress
2017-09-15T20:07:01 < Steffanx> yes looks like it
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2017-09-15T20:07:56 < englishman> manipulating the radio waves
2017-09-15T20:08:10 < englishman> media for the masses, eh
2017-09-15T20:08:20 < englishman> ivan!!!
2017-09-15T20:16:19 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCC_Group
2017-09-15T20:19:17 < englishman> ivan's boss had a short talk at blackhat 2015
2017-09-15T20:19:20 < Laurenceb> In 2000, Rob Cotton was hired as finance director
2017-09-15T20:19:24 < Laurenceb> serious news
2017-09-15T20:19:37 < Laurenceb> epin dramaz
2017-09-15T20:20:02 < Laurenceb> In 2014 NCC Group acquired the right to operate the generic Top Level Domain (gTLD) .trust from Deutsche Post.
2017-09-15T20:20:09 < englishman> haha
2017-09-15T20:20:09 < Laurenceb> inb4 dailystormer.trust
2017-09-15T20:20:24 < englishman> https://www.nccgroup.trust/uk/about-us/newsroom-and-events/in-the-media/2017/may/ncc-group-appears-on-bbcs-the-one-show/
2017-09-15T20:20:24 < englishman> Special mention to Ivan who designed and built the hardware required for the demonstration.
2017-09-15T20:20:32 < englishman> ivan is reselling junk from aliexpress to corps now
2017-09-15T20:20:39 < englishman> you heard it here, on ##stm32
2017-09-15T20:20:59 < Laurenceb> wtf why would you demonstrate that
2017-09-15T20:21:20 < Laurenceb> next with Ivan: how to make a lidl bleach bomb that actually works
2017-09-15T20:21:53 < englishman> i thnk im going to armour my car with lidl bags after seeing that pic
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2017-09-15T20:22:03 < Laurenceb> next on the one show: how to join ISIS
2017-09-15T20:22:32 < Steffanx> how did i miss this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCLlwBH2nMg ( sure it has been posted here, but i missed it :o )
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2017-09-15T20:25:18 < Laurenceb> haha genius
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2017-09-15T20:38:44 < englishman> that meme must be really shitty for native german speakesr
2017-09-15T20:39:05 < Steffanx> Cracki: will tell you
2017-09-15T21:10:24 < englishman> kakimir: someone is selling L39 for $22,000, should i get y/n
2017-09-15T21:10:53 < kakimir> L39 albatros?
2017-09-15T21:11:34 < kakimir> https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_L-39_Albatros#/media/File:Aero_L-39_ZA_of_Slovak_Air_Force_(reg._1701),_static_display,_Radom_AirShow_2005,_Poland.jpg hell yes
2017-09-15T21:11:39 < englishman> hehe
2017-09-15T21:11:48 < Laurenceb> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fake-social-media-accounts-pretending-11175055
2017-09-15T21:11:59 < englishman> 🇫🇮 not 🇨🇿
2017-09-15T21:12:17 < kakimir> and englishman - no
2017-09-15T21:12:42 < kakimir> unless you are some sort of gun colletor
2017-09-15T21:12:57 < englishman> well with a L39 i would be a collector
2017-09-15T21:13:10 < kakimir> and if you are - stop and focus on innovation
2017-09-15T21:13:46 < englishman> i would also need an early ww2 tank to practice on
2017-09-15T21:15:02 < kakimir> can you even buy something that is basically artilerry
2017-09-15T21:15:14 < kakimir> *artillery
2017-09-15T21:15:22 < englishman> yes you can even take it on the bus and hunt squirrel
2017-09-15T21:15:37 < englishman> only the guns used in 80s movies were deemed scary and banned
2017-09-15T21:15:47 < kakimir> ?
2017-09-15T21:15:55 < englishman> pancor jackhammer = banned gun
2017-09-15T21:16:04 < englishman> and there is literally only one in existence and it is nonfunctional
2017-09-15T21:17:01 < englishman> L39 was not in any 80s action movies, so it is not banned
2017-09-15T21:17:30 < kakimir> muricans didn't ban movie violence guns
2017-09-15T21:17:54 < englishman> muricans
2017-09-15T21:18:18 < kakimir> they welcome them
2017-09-15T21:19:02 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/Z7i1uPp
2017-09-15T21:19:05 < Laurenceb> le epin troll
2017-09-15T21:19:16 < Steffanx> "Connect a 3-V - 6-V supply from the VIN terminal to GND." They want me to short some VIN to GND? wut?
2017-09-15T21:21:06 < kakimir> across VIN - GND
2017-09-15T21:21:25 < kakimir> not short across
2017-09-15T21:21:36 < kakimir> voltage across VIN - GND
2017-09-15T21:21:51 < kakimir> common sense anyhow?
2017-09-15T21:24:21 < Laurenceb> NICE LIDL BAG AHMED, WANT TO BRING IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE?
2017-09-15T21:24:32 < jadew> https://i.imgur.com/8OMSk8k.jpg
2017-09-15T21:24:50 < Laurenceb> irl lulling
2017-09-15T21:26:20 < Steffanx> common sense, i dont do that kakimir. I understood what they meant, i just wouldnt have written it like that kakimir
2017-09-15T21:26:21 < kakimir> when you will join jihad Laurenceb ?
2017-09-15T21:26:48 < Steffanx> Especially not with all those dashes
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2017-09-15T21:27:40 < Laurenceb> https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-views/taking-pee-out-physics-how-boys-are-getting-a-leg
2017-09-15T21:29:14 < kakimir> stop spam Laurenceb
2017-09-15T21:29:52 < kakimir> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/021/827/c74.jpg
2017-09-15T21:31:18 < aandrew> Laurenceb: quality share, +1
2017-09-15T21:34:18 < kakimir> englishman: did you go to summer festival?
2017-09-15T21:34:26 < englishman> which one
2017-09-15T21:35:20 < kakimir> any
2017-09-15T21:35:24 < englishman> yes
2017-09-15T21:35:35 < kakimir> good time?
2017-09-15T21:35:54 < englishman> yes
2017-09-15T21:40:03 < kakimir> best performance?
2017-09-15T21:40:24 < englishman> 12L V10
2017-09-15T21:42:46 < kakimir> 10L V12
2017-09-15T21:43:02 < kakimir> best pumps?
2017-09-15T21:46:42 < englishman> https://www.arcticspas.com/shop/product/speck-pump-for-niagara-system-60-hz/
2017-09-15T21:48:36 < kakimir> lookin good
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2017-09-15T21:50:10 < kakimir> so you do some sort of industrial/automation stuff englishman ?
2017-09-15T21:50:20 < kakimir> you seem to know some hardware
2017-09-15T21:50:27 < englishman> not really
2017-09-15T21:50:30 < englishman> made this today tho https://i.imgur.com/hz5G9TE.jpg
2017-09-15T21:51:07 < kakimir> you should get like really nice model
2017-09-15T21:51:13 < kakimir> what went wrong?
2017-09-15T21:51:44 < englishman> i think its not bad for not having dgps
2017-09-15T21:52:13 < kakimir> good tool doesn't use gps to build a model
2017-09-15T21:52:33 < kakimir> just compute everything from photos
2017-09-15T21:53:31 < aandrew> englishman: what're you doing
2017-09-15T21:53:42 < englishman> dicking about
2017-09-15T21:53:43 < kakimir> 3d imagin with a drone
2017-09-15T21:54:11 < aandrew> interesting
2017-09-15T21:54:18 < aandrew> looks like a watercolour
2017-09-15T21:57:43 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKLTIzdEZmblhvQU0/view?usp=sharing
2017-09-15T21:58:06 < englishman> is that the new kakipool
2017-09-15T21:58:06 < kakimir> shit lagoon collapsed
2017-09-15T21:59:15 < kakimir> it's actually floting in clay so it moved up and rim broke loose from bottom when it moved back down
2017-09-15T21:59:36 < kakimir> then it was just a matter of time
2017-09-15T22:00:27 < kakimir> one side had ground frost damages and very wet clay
2017-09-15T22:01:27 < kakimir> you said it englishman... shit lagoon would be really inexpensive kakipool when it comes to eur/cubicmeter
2017-09-15T22:14:54 < englishman> point cloud looks better https://i.imgur.com/hobxIeR.jpg
2017-09-15T22:17:08 < kakimir> englishman's small empire
2017-09-15T22:17:21 < Cracki> Steffanx, englishman: that meme is hard for native speakers because we have to NOT listen. it's hilarious though :D
2017-09-15T22:17:40 < kakimir> englishman: it's all yours?
2017-09-15T22:18:04 < Steffanx> what did you use for this mr englishman?
2017-09-15T22:18:14 < kakimir> you should clean your yard englishman
2017-09-15T22:18:44 < kakimir> those old tyres you need to hide
2017-09-15T22:20:18 < Cracki> it's like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO3bmydsiQs
2017-09-15T22:21:40 < Steffanx> it still better than what you guys do. where you have to original audio + some german voice over
2017-09-15T22:21:54 < Steffanx> but that german voice over starts just a second after the original audio
2017-09-15T22:22:28 < Steffanx> i can understand german and english, but not when that happens :)
2017-09-15T22:22:33 < Steffanx> i blame you Cracki
2017-09-15T22:23:04 < Cracki> ugh voice overs
2017-09-15T22:24:19 < kakimir> ylj dl
2017-09-15T22:25:48 < Cracki> wtf  Zano received £2,335,119 in funding against a goal of £125,000
2017-09-15T22:26:10 < Steffanx> Yes sir
2017-09-15T22:26:28 < kakimir> who are you Cracki?
2017-09-15T22:26:53 < Cracki> I'm not sure how to answer that
2017-09-15T22:27:18 < kakimir> are you new here?
2017-09-15T22:28:03 < Cracki> yes
2017-09-15T22:29:27 < Steffanx> Yet he seems to blend in well, so far
2017-09-15T22:29:58 < kakimir> some people here had obsession with zano so I make sure they don't talk about zano anymore
2017-09-15T22:31:58 < Cracki> hrhrhr
2017-09-15T22:32:01 < Cracki> no worries
2017-09-15T22:32:22 < Steffanx> fuck damned TI. Get some evaluation thingy, try their software, it wants to update the usb interface and you brick your tooly. damn ti.
2017-09-15T22:32:39 < Steffanx> which seems to be a known issue
2017-09-15T22:32:41 < kakimir> okay you r good Cracki.. I think you are legit new here
2017-09-15T22:37:56 < Rickta59> * points at Steffanx's post and thinks .. hmm .. this is why I hang out in stm32 now
2017-09-15T22:38:17 < Rickta59> which eval board Steffanx ?
2017-09-15T22:38:35 < Steffanx>  TPS65185, Rickta59
2017-09-15T22:39:07 < Steffanx> and why you hang out in ##stm32 again? To laugh at our issues?
2017-09-15T22:39:35 < Rickta59> collect issues so I don't have to fall in those pits
2017-09-15T22:40:03 < Steffanx> All of the related projects must be internship projects. The tooling is written in 100 different languages.
2017-09-15T22:40:10 < Steffanx> I see some .net crap, labview and .. meh
2017-09-15T22:40:24 < Rickta59> I'm convinced that TI hates software
2017-09-15T22:40:42 < Steffanx> lets release software with the .pdb and vhost.exe file :)
2017-09-15T22:41:13 < Rickta59> that is so you can debug it yourself : )
2017-09-15T22:41:15 < zyp> Rickta59, good approach, learn from others' mistakes so you don't have to make them yourself
2017-09-15T22:42:09 < Steffanx> im almost at the point where ill just buy a new $10 thingy or just give up on this crap entirely.
2017-09-15T22:42:23 < zyp> I once opened some TI tool in IDA to figure out command line usage
2017-09-15T22:42:24 < Rickta59> I was using a chunk of TI written software, the usb tool for msp430 chips, even though it was written in java it didn't handle paths stuff properly
2017-09-15T22:42:49 < zyp> couldn't find any argument parsing though, so I concluded it was probably unusable from CLI
2017-09-15T22:42:53 < Rickta59> i decompiled the java code, showed them what they needed to change and sent it to them .. 3 years later they finally got it right
2017-09-15T22:43:00 < Steffanx> :D
2017-09-15T22:43:10 < zyp> well, it took the input file as an argument somehow
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2017-09-15T22:43:23 < zyp> but it didn't produce the outputs I needed, so I couldn't just execute it from scons
2017-09-15T22:43:36 < Steffanx> lol
2017-09-15T22:43:44 < zyp> so I'm just gonna run it manually and store the outputs in git instead
2017-09-15T22:43:55 < Rickta59> i've spent more time than I want to admit using strace on their tools to fix stuff
2017-09-15T22:43:55 < zyp> this is the halcogen thing
2017-09-15T22:44:21 < Rickta59> now i just use stm32 and gcc and life is good
2017-09-15T22:44:35 < Steffanx> ssssht, say you use keil.
2017-09-15T22:44:43 < Rickta59> oh right keil
2017-09-15T22:45:02 < zyp> I can't be assed to write my own RM4 HAL
2017-09-15T22:45:08 < zyp> at least not now
2017-09-15T22:45:43 < Cracki> k, staying away from TI then
2017-09-15T22:46:25 < Rickta59> if you ever see something they have on sale ... it probably means they are going to discontinue it
2017-09-15T23:06:16 < Steffanx> wut. did windows 10 add an option to remove some usb driver entirely now? Whoa, i missed this my entire millenial life.
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2017-09-15T23:58:20 < Teeed> hm
2017-09-15T23:58:39 < Teeed> hm
2017-09-15T23:59:38 < Teeed> 90 15 50 05      [ 1]  144 bcpl _PB_ODR, #5
2017-09-15T23:59:42 < Teeed> stm8 ^
2017-09-15T23:59:48 < Teeed> any idea why it does not toggle led?
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2017-09-16T00:13:31 < Cracki> gpios configured properly?
2017-09-16T00:13:38 < Cracki> clock enabled?
2017-09-16T00:16:37 < Teeed> yes
2017-09-16T00:18:37 < Teeed> when using traditional access (https://gist.github.com/Teeed/cb6098a354126647c5aaeaa0eae752bc)
2017-09-16T00:18:40 < Teeed> it works
2017-09-16T00:18:40 < Teeed> Cracki: ^
2017-09-16T00:20:15 < Cracki> that's all I can contribute. "bcpl" isn't even searchable since it's an ancient programming language, not related to arm
2017-09-16T00:25:20 < englishman> Steffanx: dumb proprietary drone
2017-09-16T00:25:26 < englishman> with Intel Edison
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2017-09-16T00:30:37 < ohsix> lul did usb3 thing off a samsung tablet or something
2017-09-16T00:30:39 < ohsix> with just hot air
2017-09-16T00:30:51 < ohsix> it's hard and sucks
2017-09-16T00:31:04 < ohsix> need to get a heating bed thing
2017-09-16T00:31:17 < ohsix> i don't like when i can get it done but it looks like shit :|
2017-09-16T00:36:42 < ohsix> ugh there was a friend of the lab in here taking pictures for the paper
2017-09-16T00:36:56 < ohsix> the old guy that runs the place wanted every display on
2017-09-16T00:37:12 < ohsix> so all the equipment is on and not hooked up to anything
2017-09-16T00:37:16 < ohsix> it looks retarded
2017-09-16T00:39:59 < Cracki> that sounds like north korean propaganda, where all children have computers, but there's no electricity, so photos are taken such that the (dark) screen isn't visible
2017-09-16T00:40:13 < ohsix> doing the same in any other type of shop would be even more absurd, like a welding shop with the handpieces just on the ground extruding wire
2017-09-16T00:42:35 < Cracki> all the compentent people teleported the fuck outta there
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2017-09-16T01:11:55 < enh> Hi.
2017-09-16T01:12:07 < Steffanx> Hello Welcome.
2017-09-16T01:12:39 < enh> Is there a command line solution, like avrdude or avr-gcc, to compile and upload code to a stm32?
2017-09-16T01:13:07 < enh> I found this: https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded But I do not know how much it can be trusted
2017-09-16T01:13:32 < Steffanx> thats the one and only.
2017-09-16T01:13:41 < Steffanx> it actually moved to https://developer.arm.com/open-source/gnu-toolchain/gnu-rm though
2017-09-16T01:13:56 < enh> I can install it on mac via homebrew.
2017-09-16T01:14:08 < Steffanx> For flashing debugging/whatever you would actually use openocd nowadays
2017-09-16T01:14:15 < enh> Is there a tutorial somewhere on how to use it, simple way?
2017-09-16T01:14:24 < Steffanx> unless you are more pro and have some professional debugger like a jlink etc.
2017-09-16T01:14:27 < enh> openocd?
2017-09-16T01:14:47 < Steffanx> http://openocd.org/
2017-09-16T01:14:56 < enh> Thanks, Steffanx.
2017-09-16T01:15:00 < Steffanx> i think homebrew has that
2017-09-16T01:15:05 < enh> it does
2017-09-16T01:15:06 < Steffanx> not sure how up to date is
2017-09-16T01:16:00 < enh> nice. On chip debugger.
2017-09-16T01:16:11 < enh> on atmel this is painful
2017-09-16T01:16:59 < Steffanx> i would just download the GCC package for OS X from the ARM website
2017-09-16T01:17:10 < Steffanx> im not sure about tutorials, im sure google can help you better with that ;)
2017-09-16T01:17:14 < enh> Can you write a one line workflow on how to compile and upload code to stm32? Just the main program names, please
2017-09-16T01:17:27 < enh> Ok.
2017-09-16T01:18:04 < enh> I'll try google. I had trouble to find that for AVR. Took some time to adapt my makefile to do the compilation and uploading.
2017-09-16T01:18:30 < Steffanx> os x, linux.. have a very similar work flow, so you dont have to look for a os x specific tutorial
2017-09-16T01:19:33 < enh> Ok. Thanks a lot
2017-09-16T01:19:58 < Steffanx> Took you quite some time to ask that. You've been joining and quiting for quite a while now :P
2017-09-16T01:20:15 < enh> https://hackaday.io/project/11724-yauvec-yet-another-unmanned-vehicle-controller this is what I''ve been working on for some time
2017-09-16T01:20:39 < enh> I've been following discussions.
2017-09-16T01:21:03 < enh> But I only decided to build a module for my system with a coretexm4 mcu recently
2017-09-16T01:22:03 < Steffanx> If you can get your hands on a F4/7 nucleo and/or discovery that would help you probably a bit
2017-09-16T01:22:08 < Steffanx> in the development phase
2017-09-16T01:22:12 < enh> I picked STM32F303xC
2017-09-16T01:22:16 < Steffanx> comes with an on board debugger etc.
2017-09-16T01:22:16 < enh> I have a discovery
2017-09-16T01:22:26 < Steffanx> F303 is a cortex-m3, not m4 ;)
2017-09-16T01:22:34 < Steffanx> or is it.
2017-09-16T01:22:42 < Steffanx> sorry, my bad
2017-09-16T01:22:50 < enh> it is m4...
2017-09-16T01:22:56 < Steffanx> yes, my bad
2017-09-16T01:23:20 < enh> I get confused with those f3 being m4 too
2017-09-16T01:23:48 < enh> My discovery is an old one. stm32f407
2017-09-16T01:23:58 < enh> But good enough to learn the basics
2017-09-16T01:24:19 < Steffanx> Absolutely.
2017-09-16T01:25:21 < enh> It is not my absolute priority now, but I'll work on a hello world soon and try to automate the workflow on the makefile
2017-09-16T01:25:45 < enh> I loved the fact that these ICs have an FPU
2017-09-16T01:25:51 < enh> and a unique id
2017-09-16T01:30:52 < Thorn> p_ble_evt->evt.gap_evt.params.adv_report.peer_addr.addr_type
2017-09-16T01:31:08 < Steffanx> nrf much
2017-09-16T01:31:52 < Thorn> this starts to look like file paths, not struct fields
2017-09-16T01:32:11 < Thorn> or URLs
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2017-09-16T01:58:59 < aandrew> https://i.imgur.com/ANWs2oM.gifv
2017-09-16T01:59:22 < Steffanx> hi upgrdman welcome back
2017-09-16T01:59:57 < Steffanx> ( only upgrdman posts crap like that )
2017-09-16T02:32:04 < jadew> aandrew, I wonder what she says when someone asks her what her job is
2017-09-16T02:32:59 < jadew> I was wondering what they're for, but I guess they're for people with no balls
2017-09-16T02:33:05 < jadew> and maybe lesbians
2017-09-16T02:33:20 < jadew> they seem to have the right shape to be inserted
2017-09-16T02:33:37 < jadew> but then they'd have balls and no dick, so I'm not sure about that either
2017-09-16T02:34:48 < jadew> now I gotta see that..., I hoep there's a picture of that on the internet
2017-09-16T02:35:13  * jadew starts up an incognito window
2017-09-16T02:36:02 < jadew> lol, these must be the worst search terms ever
2017-09-16T02:36:11 < jadew> try it "balls hanging from vagina"
2017-09-16T02:36:59 < jadew> there's something there I don't even know what it is.. is that during surgery? or WTF is that?
2017-09-16T02:38:53 < aandrew> lol
2017-09-16T02:39:07 < aandrew> I suspect she says "I'm a prosthetics technician"
2017-09-16T02:39:13 < jadew> for those who didn't try the search, this is the first image that comes up: SERIOUSLY NSFW: http://cdn4.images.motherlessmedia.com/images/3D309E.jpg?fs=opencloud
2017-09-16T02:39:19 < jadew> NSFW
2017-09-16T02:40:01 < jadew> aandrew, so you think those are for wearing, not for silly jokes?
2017-09-16T02:40:37 < aandrew> jadew: his are clearly for silly jokes
2017-09-16T02:41:09 < jadew> maybe I should get a pair then I can finally go naked at the gym, sporting my balls
2017-09-16T02:41:55 < jadew> (cuz then I'd have two pairs)
2017-09-16T02:42:17 < jadew> aandrew, it's not clear what that guy is trying to do
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2017-09-16T02:43:14 < enh> Steffanx: This question helps to answer what I asked before: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34993968/linking-succeeds-with-arm-none-eabi-g-but-not-arm-none-eabi-gcc
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2017-09-16T04:08:58 < Laurenceb__> apparently there is a manhunt for the bomber
2017-09-16T04:09:08 < Laurenceb__> the Patriarchy strikes again
2017-09-16T04:09:49 < Thorn> what if the bomber is female
2017-09-16T04:10:40 < Thorn> a car bomb in Ukraine a few months ago was planted by a woman (filmed by cctv)
2017-09-16T04:14:40 < Laurenceb__> lies
2017-09-16T04:14:58 < Laurenceb__> the Patriarchy spreads lies, all violence is caused by men
2017-09-16T04:27:32 < Thorn> what is the difference between uart and "serial" in nordick land
2017-09-16T04:29:52 < aandrew> nothing really
2017-09-16T04:30:00 < aandrew> serial could technically mean uart, spi, i2c etc etc
2017-09-16T04:32:13 < Thorn> looks like sdk/components/libraries/serial only supports uart
2017-09-16T04:32:47 < Thorn> >This module is more sophisticated than @ref nrf_drv_uart. It internally uses mutex, queues, and app_timer. You can configure it to work in three different modes (polling, interrupt, DMA). ...
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2017-09-16T05:08:10 < aandrew> I've got all three working on an nrf51822
2017-09-16T05:33:05 < jadew> Laurenceb, what bomber?
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2017-09-16T08:38:24 < dongs> Gentoo is much more optimized in my opinion, it has more support, benefits any hardware circumstances, and runs at at least 20% faster than Redhat.
2017-09-16T08:44:16 < ohsix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maned_wolf
2017-09-16T08:45:41 < ohsix> weird looking turds, they poop on leafcutter ants too
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2017-09-16T10:27:32 < ReadErr>  Why the hell are    _..._  It's not about OPTIMILAZIATIONS
2017-09-16T10:27:34 < ReadErr>  you using softw  .-'     '-.  It's about USE flags.
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2017-09-16T10:27:58 < ReadErr>        |  ;  .  ' ' \ \-'| |    /,\ `  \      _.'
2017-09-16T10:27:59 < ReadErr>      ~ ; ; ;/ ._,.-~'|`| | |       _,-''\..--'
2017-09-16T10:28:00 < ReadErr>      ~ /; ;/=""      |`| |`|   _.-'
2017-09-16T10:28:01 < ReadErr>      ~..==`     \\   |`| / /.-'
2017-09-16T10:28:02 < ReadErr>       ~` ~      /,\ / /_,)")
2017-09-16T10:28:04 < ReadErr>      ~ ~~       _,.-)")
2017-09-16T10:28:05 < ReadErr>      ~ ~   _,=~"|
2017-09-16T10:28:06 < ReadErr>      ~  =~"|;  ;|    GENTOO IS 4 RICERS
2017-09-16T10:28:07 < ReadErr>   2%  ~  ~ | ;  |   ====================
2017-09-16T10:28:09 < ReadErr> faster!~ ~ |;|\ |   "It's -O3 the letter,
2017-09-16T10:28:10 < ReadErr>            |/  \|    not 03 the number."
2017-09-16T10:28:11 < ReadErr> 
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2017-09-16T10:40:52 < PaulFertser> ReadErr: discovered the wonderful world of ever-breaking updates, eh?
2017-09-16T10:41:01 < ReadErr> lol
2017-09-16T10:41:07 < ReadErr> never gentoo
2017-09-16T10:41:09 < dongs> > lunix
2017-09-16T10:41:10 < dongs> > working
2017-09-16T10:41:21 < dongs> does it ever?
2017-09-16T10:42:05 < PaulFertser> dongs: what's your home wifi router? And the TV? Aren't they running linux, the kernel?
2017-09-16T10:42:11 < dongs> no
2017-09-16T10:42:25 < dongs> my router is yamaha RTX1500 and RTX810
2017-09-16T10:42:31 < dongs> neither of htem runs lunix
2017-09-16T10:42:45 < dongs> which is why my internet is never dead
2017-09-16T10:43:34 < PaulFertser> Cool, my motorbike is Yamaha too. Luckily no firmware at all in it.
2017-09-16T10:44:41 < PaulFertser> dongs: what does it run, vxworks?
2017-09-16T10:44:47 < dongs> no, yamaha's custom shit
2017-09-16T10:45:06 < dongs> that they've been doing since the 90s
2017-09-16T10:45:17 < PaulFertser> With custom ipsec etc? Fancy, heh.
2017-09-16T10:45:35 < dongs> yes
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2017-09-16T10:46:46 < PaulFertser> Doesn't mean it's a good thing though.
2017-09-16T10:46:50 < dongs> it does
2017-09-16T10:47:26 < PaulFertser> Because every custom shit japs do is good?
2017-09-16T10:48:32 < dongs> because its not lunix
2017-09-16T10:49:51 < PaulFertser> What about your smart TV?
2017-09-16T10:50:02 < dongs> i dont haev any smart tvs
2017-09-16T10:50:16 < dongs> japs never figured that shit out
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2017-09-16T11:55:03 < Thorn> stm8 blinks \o/
2017-09-16T11:55:36 < Thorn> using free open source tools on macos
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2017-09-16T12:25:51 < dongs> terrible
2017-09-16T12:29:57 < Steffanx> The free closed sores alternative is just as terrible
2017-09-16T12:30:08 < Steffanx> With that cosmic compiler
2017-09-16T12:30:44 < Steffanx> Lets make it free, but you still have to request a license which we will email you (by hand)
2017-09-16T12:31:11 < dongs> at least closed sores alternative produces code that isnt absolute shit
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2017-09-16T12:44:49 < Steffanx> Im sure you never checked.
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2017-09-16T13:54:55 < Steffanx> Dongs here a vid from my secret torrent friend for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQBQG4gs6hc
2017-09-16T13:55:18 < Steffanx> note: its boring as hell
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2017-09-16T14:11:24 < englishman> smart TVs are total shit
2017-09-16T14:13:17 < ReadErr> https://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-website-runs-a-cryptocurrency-miner-170916/
2017-09-16T14:17:14 < Steffanx> heh nice
2017-09-16T14:20:43 < Steffanx> whats new englishman?
2017-09-16T14:27:13 < englishman> busy day
2017-09-16T14:27:40 < englishman> 7am rage at lunix
2017-09-16T14:27:47 < englishman> 7:05 coffee
2017-09-16T14:27:57 < englishman> 7:06 rage at lunix
2017-09-16T14:30:47 < Steffanx> pebkac much ? :P
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2017-09-16T14:49:02 < Steffanx> but i know how it feels. Im raging at TI. It seems that the bricked "usb interface adapter" of this EVM also killed the target ( TPS65185) somehow.
2017-09-16T14:58:10 < dongs> e-dink
2017-09-16T15:23:58 < zyp> haha
2017-09-16T15:25:43 < Steffanx> Ya mr dongs.
2017-09-16T15:25:46 < zyp> heh
2017-09-16T15:25:51 < zyp> http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/slvu548/slvu548.pdf <- this shit looks old as fuck
2017-09-16T15:26:14 < Steffanx> for $10 its a nice evm
2017-09-16T15:26:26 < Steffanx> that tooling is labview. help much.
2017-09-16T15:26:27 < zyp> for $10 its a nice brick, eh
2017-09-16T15:26:46 < Steffanx> yes, i unbricked the tool though
2017-09-16T15:26:59 < Steffanx> the usb tool that is
2017-09-16T15:27:43 < Steffanx> And i'll just replace the chip
2017-09-16T15:30:59 < Steffanx> The usb tool is from 2006, but it just seems to be some random hammond case with a huge label.
2017-09-16T15:31:53 < Steffanx> its just some i2c + gpio thingy, not much more.
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2017-09-16T15:49:31 < Thorn> sdcc object files are text
2017-09-16T15:49:54 < Thorn> or rather 2 text files: .asm + .rel (symbol info)
2017-09-16T15:52:39 < dongs> just watched dune
2017-09-16T15:52:41 < dongs> what a shit film
2017-09-16T15:55:34 < Steffanx> the 1984 edition?
2017-09-16T15:59:14 < englishman> i hope there arent any others
2017-09-16T15:59:20 < englishman> besides jodorowskys ofc
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2017-09-16T16:10:59 < dongs> yeah 1984
2017-09-16T16:11:02 < dongs> there's a jewray
2017-09-16T16:11:14 < dongs> it was jsut boring
2017-09-16T16:12:48 < Thorn> uart works \o/
2017-09-16T16:13:53 < Steffanx> isnt that just example code copy paste? :)
2017-09-16T16:14:10 < dongs> he used cubemx
2017-09-16T16:14:30 < Steffanx> isnt Thorn doing some nrf work?
2017-09-16T16:14:57 < Thorn> both
2017-09-16T16:15:11 < Thorn> and also android in the morning
2017-09-16T16:16:53 < Thorn> there are no cube libraries for stm8
2017-09-16T16:17:17 < Thorn> only the cube software
2017-09-16T16:17:31 < Thorn> but there is https://github.com/lujji/stm8-bare-min
2017-09-16T16:19:30 < dongs> you know there's stdperiphlib-like shit for stm8
2017-09-16T16:19:35 < dongs> the api is mostly same as stm32
2017-09-16T16:19:41 < dongs> some small changes in timers and shit
2017-09-16T16:19:46 < dongs> you could just use that
2017-09-16T16:19:50 < dongs> instead of some broken opensauce
2017-09-16T16:20:20 < Thorn> I'm using it as a reference, not as a library
2017-09-16T16:20:58 < Thorn> e.g. uart is only implemented in pollied mode there
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2017-09-16T16:38:59 < Thorn> what is the difference between STM8S003F3P6 and 103F3P6 other than EEPROM size and flash / EEPROM rated # of cycles?
2017-09-16T16:39:13 < Thorn> looks like 103 has unique ID and that is about all
2017-09-16T16:42:39 < englishman> another timer
2017-09-16T16:42:53 < englishman> possibly other features
2017-09-16T16:43:08 < englishman> i think it has 4 timers vs 3
2017-09-16T16:43:12 < englishman> or 5
2017-09-16T16:47:56 < englishman> ooo in that package, dono
2017-09-16T16:48:24 < englishman> stm8 has a lot more crippled pins and features than stm32
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2017-09-16T17:13:43 < Thorn> what is http://www.kynix.com/
2017-09-16T17:14:06 < Steffanx> Purchase Orders In Progress :S
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2017-09-16T17:36:33 < Rob235> is it okay to use javascript to do cpu intensive calculations?
2017-09-16T17:36:37 < Rob235> :P
2017-09-16T17:39:12 < Thorn> it's mostly single threaded
2017-09-16T17:39:33 < Rob235> I think the algorithm is single threaded anyway
2017-09-16T17:39:53 < Thorn> what about the UI or i/o
2017-09-16T17:41:05 < Thorn> also there are no integers in javascript
2017-09-16T17:42:06 < Rob235> well I'm using an esp8266 as a webserver which was just gonna have a page to upload gcode files and change settings.  thats why I wanted to use javascript for this other part. so that I can use the web server for everything instead of writing another app just for generating the gcode file
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2017-09-16T17:49:21 < Steffanx> As long as you use a webworker or maybe break-up the calculations i dont see why you cant do it Rob235.
2017-09-16T17:49:29 < Steffanx> fuck those "javascript is bad"-guys
2017-09-16T17:49:40 < Steffanx> nah, not fuck them. Just ignore them
2017-09-16T17:49:49 < Rob235> whats a webworker?
2017-09-16T17:49:55 < Rob235> I havent really used javascript at all
2017-09-16T17:50:07 < Steffanx> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Workers_API/Using_web_workers
2017-09-16T17:50:15 < Rob235> thx
2017-09-16T17:50:25 < Steffanx> you dont want to hang the browser with your calculation that takes a while
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2017-09-16T17:51:13 < Rob235> interesting.  do all browsers support it?
2017-09-16T17:51:28 < Steffanx> no idea :)
2017-09-16T17:51:36 < Thorn> caniuse.com
2017-09-16T17:51:56 < Rob235> wow cool
2017-09-16T17:51:59 < Thorn> in fact browser will show the 'page not responding' dialog after a few seconds
2017-09-16T17:53:44 < Rob235> guess I'll take a break from modeling the parts I need to 3d print and start working on this
2017-09-16T18:16:05 < englishman> today is intel edison last-buy day
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2017-09-16T18:18:07 < Steffanx> :o
2017-09-16T18:18:19 < Steffanx> Time to celebrate that with a beer
2017-09-16T18:20:45 < englishman> just doing the starter and preparing equipment today, brewing will be tomorrow
2017-09-16T18:21:00 < englishman> its been a while, have to find all the stuff
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2017-09-16T18:21:56 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/EmEg2xD
2017-09-16T18:22:21 < Laurenceb__> tfw UK gov makes anti homo ads
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2017-09-16T18:24:38 < Laurenceb__> someone needs to s/line/sphincter
2017-09-16T18:25:45 < dongs> Laurenceb__: is that shopped or something
2017-09-16T18:25:48 < dongs> from some brexit ad
2017-09-16T18:25:52 < dongs>  / voting thing
2017-09-16T18:26:08 < Laurenceb__> dongs: nah its a real UK poster
2017-09-16T18:26:16 < dongs> what is it trying to advertise
2017-09-16T18:26:21 < englishman> britfags love their posters
2017-09-16T18:26:48 < Laurenceb__> https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.26138487.9946/flat,800x800,070,f.jpg
2017-09-16T18:27:43 < Thorn> https://vinnieh.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/v.jpg
2017-09-16T18:33:32 < Laurenceb__> wtf apparently the bomb was TATP based
2017-09-16T18:33:39 < Laurenceb__> how do you fail so badly
2017-09-16T18:34:04 < BrainDamage> meh, it's not fail, it's just a russian roulette in blowing yourself up accidentally
2017-09-16T18:34:25 < BrainDamage> evidently they value meeting their goal less than blowing *something* up
2017-09-16T18:34:53 < Laurenceb__> yeah that stuff goes off if you look at it wrong
2017-09-16T18:35:21 < Rob235> englishman: send me an edison
2017-09-16T18:35:35 < Laurenceb__> why would you want an edison O_o  ?
2017-09-16T18:36:16  * Laurenceb__ has a large scar down his neck from silly bomb experiments when he was 14
2017-09-16T18:36:59 < Laurenceb__> I was wearing leather jacket + face shield, but that leaves your neck exposed
2017-09-16T18:37:04 < Laurenceb__> bad idea
2017-09-16T18:37:08 < Rob235> I dont really, it would be nice to make my project standalone but Ive already chosen a new method anyway
2017-09-16T18:38:51 < Rob235> I'm still considering using my de0 nano soc though, dual core 925MHz
2017-09-16T18:39:12 < Rob235> plus fpga if I feel like messing with that
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2017-09-16T19:48:37 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXotdTN5nqU
2017-09-16T19:48:42 < Laurenceb__> lullin @ the comments
2017-09-16T19:50:59 < Laurenceb__> England may have just found its own Rachel Dolezal!
2017-09-16T19:52:00 < Thorn> UKIP= UK Immigrant Party?
2017-09-16T19:52:16 < Laurenceb__> Talcum X
2017-09-16T19:52:21 < Laurenceb__> my sides
2017-09-16T19:52:25 < englishman> UK mudkIPs Party
2017-09-16T19:53:33 < Laurenceb__> in this case, "You're a fucking white male!" is the appropriate response
2017-09-16T19:53:40 < Laurenceb__> comments deliver
2017-09-16T20:00:08 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/RzFukn9
2017-09-16T20:00:24 < Laurenceb__> google can help you fail epically, tell me something Ididn'tknow
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2017-09-16T20:03:23 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/IgFAYmd
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2017-09-16T20:44:58 < englishman> lol
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2017-09-16T20:55:27 < BrainDamage> next thing: ban chemistry books
2017-09-16T20:55:55 < englishman> brain understands government ^^
2017-09-16T20:56:29 < BrainDamage> actually, no, let's take the precursor approach, ban air and water
2017-09-16T20:59:48 < Rob235> is there a specific implementation of gcode that 3d printers and most cnc machines use?
2017-09-16T21:00:29 < Cracki_> afaik no, normal gcode
2017-09-16T21:01:01 < Cracki_> maybe not all codes, maybe different comment styles
2017-09-16T21:02:22 < Rob235> I think I will make my own implementation
2017-09-16T21:03:26 < Cracki_> they all can do straight lines, but curves maybe not
2017-09-16T21:03:59 < Cracki_> some can reverse a line set back into a curve, if the slicer only had stl to work with
2017-09-16T21:04:19 < Rob235> I want curves, its a drawing robot so basically a 2d cnc.  I'll just come up with my own convention I guess
2017-09-16T21:04:39 < Cracki_> linear approximation
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2017-09-16T21:47:21 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKMVB3WXZCWlpDSGc/view?usp=sharing
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2017-09-16T21:49:32 < qyx> are those new gnu-arm-embedded toolchains on developer.arm.com?
2017-09-16T21:49:33 < qyx> mhm
2017-09-16T21:53:35 < Steffanx>  ya
2017-09-16T21:54:02 < Steffanx> that barn in the back needs some paint kakimir
2017-09-16T21:54:41 < Cracki_> pool or septic tank?
2017-09-16T21:54:58 < qyx> looks like an idea
2017-09-16T21:55:02 < qyx> I'll be solving the same issue
2017-09-16T21:55:34 < kakimir> it's unvisible to everywhere but to those shitpools
2017-09-16T21:55:42 < kakimir> but yes
2017-09-16T22:03:53 < kakimir> there is nobody who would like to do that
2017-09-16T22:04:09 < kakimir> I concider it as a jubb for women
2017-09-16T22:05:16 < Cracki_> job for children. give them airbrush equipment.
2017-09-16T22:05:56 < kakimir> and childers
2017-09-16T22:06:01 < kakimir> chillers
2017-09-16T22:06:03 < Cracki_> paint'll be thin as hell
2017-09-16T22:06:55 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKem1Za2x6VVkyNnM/view?usp=sharing no need for suspisius stands
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2017-09-17T00:36:26 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/ruDcTiJ
2017-09-17T00:37:18 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTWh_o17h0s
2017-09-17T00:38:52 < Cracki_> polycarbonate isn't unbreakable are they dumb or what
2017-09-17T00:39:04 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ9HHAZAw5k music times
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2017-09-17T02:10:44 < Laurenceb__> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYoiCStDTQg
2017-09-17T02:11:20 < Laurenceb__> >not polystyrene
2017-09-17T02:24:44 < Rob235> how does react work? you can use it server or client side? does the client have to have it installed?
2017-09-17T02:26:20 < Cracki_> afaik it's a browserside thing
2017-09-17T02:30:13 < Rob235> ahh ok yea it seems to be
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2017-09-17T08:21:00 < dongs> haha
2017-09-17T08:21:04 < dongs> allpcb shipped my shit already
2017-09-17T08:21:08 < dongs> ordered friday
2017-09-17T08:22:27 < ohsix> sup
2017-09-17T08:27:25 < aandrew> yo dongs
2017-09-17T08:27:27 < aandrew> what's new
2017-09-17T08:27:31 < dongs> not much
2017-09-17T08:27:36 < dongs> watching typhoon
2017-09-17T08:27:43 < dongs> but nothing is happening
2017-09-17T08:27:49 < dongs> my office isnt even trashed
2017-09-17T08:28:06 < aandrew> got that stm32 missile tracker working yet? I hear you've got some great opportunities to track NK missiles
2017-09-17T08:29:40 < dongs> good idea, should start a projekct on dickstarter.jp
2017-09-17T08:30:16 < aandrew> I hear the L0s are fast enough to track NK missiles
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2017-09-17T08:40:10 < ohsix> dongs: r00ting loop on encoder
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2017-09-17T10:11:26 < dongs> whoops. batts in UPS were ded
2017-09-17T10:13:43 < dongs> ReadErr: does this shit work https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1007036
2017-09-17T10:13:59 < dongs> o wait i remember seeing that
2017-09-17T10:14:10 < ReadErr> you can do it other ways
2017-09-17T10:14:10 < dongs> i had to run some fucking appliance running poopchute
2017-09-17T10:14:25 < dongs> is there somethign less retarded
2017-09-17T10:14:32 < ReadErr> well the gay shit is
2017-09-17T10:14:40 < ReadErr> you need to interface the HW
2017-09-17T10:14:47 < ReadErr> maybe an actual usecase for a pi?
2017-09-17T10:14:48 < dongs> yeah, i have USB going to a VM
2017-09-17T10:15:06 < ReadErr> then you just issue the suspend/shutdown over network
2017-09-17T10:15:19 < dongs> thought some vicli shit?
2017-09-17T10:15:29 < dongs> thorugh= through
2017-09-17T10:15:30 < ReadErr> theres an ipmi kinda thing
2017-09-17T10:15:35 < ReadErr> or it works like that
2017-09-17T10:15:56 < dongs> all vmwarez knowledge bases are rated 1/2 starts
2017-09-17T10:15:58 < dongs> stars
2017-09-17T10:16:57 < ReadErr> but w/ the pi
2017-09-17T10:17:04 < ReadErr> you can kinda customize things a lot more
2017-09-17T10:17:13 < ReadErr> like shut down guest in a certain order
2017-09-17T10:17:17 < ReadErr> or suspend
2017-09-17T10:17:18 < dongs> what would I do with a gaypi
2017-09-17T10:17:27 < ReadErr> apc usb -> rpi
2017-09-17T10:17:33 < ReadErr> rpi -> esxi host via network
2017-09-17T10:17:44 < dongs> lunix supports USB enough to make this work??
2017-09-17T10:17:48 < ReadErr> ya ofc
2017-09-17T10:17:54 < dongs> last time i looked at "apc" daemons in lunix it was a complete shitshow
2017-09-17T10:18:07 < dongs> reverse enggineered hacked shit
2017-09-17T10:18:09 < dongs> nothign worked
2017-09-17T10:18:10 < dongs> etc
2017-09-17T10:18:40 < ReadErr> hmm odd what brand?
2017-09-17T10:20:28 < dongs> what do you mean
2017-09-17T10:20:34 < dongs> lunix shit
2017-09-17T10:20:39 < dongs> this is just smartups 1500 rack
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2017-09-17T10:29:17 < ReadErr> do you have impi/idrac?
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2017-09-17T10:41:01 < dongs> no
2017-09-17T10:41:10 < dongs> just a random msi mobo
2017-09-17T10:41:34 < dongs> holy shit
2017-09-17T10:41:41 < dongs> 30 seconds after installing APC powrpoopchute
2017-09-17T10:41:46 < dongs> im in add/remove programs to delete that shti
2017-09-17T10:41:48 < dongs> a i d s
2017-09-17T11:26:34 < Thorn> wtf sdcc requires interrupt handlers declared in main.c or it won't put them into the vector table
2017-09-17T11:26:46 < Thorn> I waster an hour on it
2017-09-17T11:27:30 < Thorn> *ed
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2017-09-17T11:42:00 < Thorn> TIL there are programmable ds1990 clones
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2017-09-17T11:54:22 < dongs> lol @ main.c interrupt handlers
2017-09-17T12:01:06 < stvn> so i saw 2 kikes walking past me at the shopping centre and i thought to myself "why aren't they in the fucking oven"
2017-09-17T12:02:02 < Thorn> is there real practical difference between standard and slew rate limited rs-485 drivers (like max485 vs. max487)?
2017-09-17T12:03:57 < Thorn> >The MAX487 and MAX1487 feature quarter-unit-load receiver input impedance
2017-09-17T12:16:47 < sync> Thorn: I have been told that you tried one of the cloner jlinks? which one and does it work well? :)
2017-09-17T12:17:12 < sync> yes Thorn, your max bandwidth you can cram through them
2017-09-17T12:20:07 < Thorn> this one https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-ST-LINK-Stlink-ST-Link-V2-Mini-STM8-STM32-Simulator-Download-Programmer-Programming-With-Cover/32792925130.html
2017-09-17T12:20:58 < Thorn> it works, namely: (1) the official firmware upgrade util upgraded it to the latest firmware and (2) stm8flash flashes stm8 connected to it
2017-09-17T12:21:14 < Thorn> I haven't tried flashing stm32 but don't see why it wouldn't work
2017-09-17T12:21:32 < Thorn> swd/swim signals appear to be 3.3V only
2017-09-17T12:21:45 < Thorn> which is crappy news
2017-09-17T12:22:00 < sync> ah, that's an stlink tho
2017-09-17T12:22:21 < Thorn> oh jlink oops
2017-09-17T12:23:38 < Thorn> also got it on aliexpress but the listing is now gone
2017-09-17T12:23:49 < Thorn> seems to work flawlessly too
2017-09-17T12:24:12 < Thorn> it's V9.4
2017-09-17T12:24:40 < Thorn> this one appears identical https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PCS-SHIP-IN-ONE-DAY-Jlink-j-link-V8-V9-V9-3-V9-4-V9-41/32827681058.html
2017-09-17T12:24:56 < Thorn> with a stm32f205
2017-09-17T12:26:05 < sync> k, thanks
2017-09-17T12:27:44 < Thorn> mine says "V9.41" on the PCB
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2017-09-17T13:38:31 < dongs>    
2017-09-17T13:39:19 < dongs> old jlink clones are atmel
2017-09-17T13:39:22 < dongs> newer are F2
2017-09-17T13:39:24 < dongs> newest is F4
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2017-09-17T14:54:15 < sync> dongs: edu mini seems to usw freescale
2017-09-17T14:54:43 < sync> Which is cheapshit
2017-09-17T14:56:58 < dongs> yeah they have a bunch of targets for the giveaway shit
2017-09-17T14:57:01 < dongs> even some stm32 i think
2017-09-17T14:58:00 < dongs> jlink are kinda jews
2017-09-17T14:58:01 < dongs> Price per unit is 4.80 EURO (min.order quantity 100)  J-Link OB Usage agreement needs to be signed
2017-09-17T14:58:04 < dongs> License fee: 1,000 € if no firmware file is shared with the customer, else 5,000 €
2017-09-17T14:58:28 < dongs> Silicon will be provided by customer (AT91SAM7S64)
2017-09-17T14:58:28 < dongs> (SEGGER provides the AT91SAM7S64 at 2,00 EUR/pcs)
2017-09-17T14:58:29 < dongs> Port to customer selected silicon: 10k € or $12,5k
2017-09-17T15:27:20 < Fleck> Thorn: works on stm32 too, just fine!
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2017-09-17T15:51:35 < englishman> dongs https://youtu.be/y0ss6gCPNs4?t=2m54s
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2017-09-17T16:02:22 < Steffanx> q+ for effort and no 4/8chan policy
2017-09-17T16:07:17 < Steffanx> And not funny englishman
2017-09-17T16:09:03 < englishman> 🥓 🥓 🥓
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2017-09-17T18:11:59 < invzim> any benefit os j-link vs stlink for stm32 dev?
2017-09-17T18:12:01 < invzim> of
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2017-09-17T18:25:52 < englishman> faster
2017-09-17T18:26:04 < englishman> more breakpoints iirc
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2017-09-17T18:34:35 < invzim> don't know if it's because I'm using a clone stlink, or the fact that I run it under virtualbox, but mine is dog slow
2017-09-17T18:35:51 < englishman> what speed did you select
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2017-09-17T18:38:32 < invzim> it complained, so I think it's at 1800khz
2017-09-17T18:40:03 < invzim> yup, Info : clock speed 1800 kHz
2017-09-17T18:49:13 < englishman> pretty slow
2017-09-17T18:50:26 < PaulFertser> invzim: slow when single-stepping (n) with gdb?
2017-09-17T18:52:52 < invzim> nah, just all around slow to start and trace printfs are dog slow
2017-09-17T19:01:57 < PaulFertser> trace printfs via semihosting?
2017-09-17T19:02:15 < PaulFertser> What is slow to start?
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2017-09-17T19:13:55 < invzim> from eclipse, it's the gdb stuff
2017-09-17T19:14:00 < invzim> takes like 10 seconds
2017-09-17T19:14:21 < invzim> from I launch debug, until it stops at main breakpoint
2017-09-17T19:14:54 < invzim> and yes, trace_printf via semihosting
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2017-09-17T19:22:52 < Thorn> y no stm8 support in openocd :/
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2017-09-17T19:24:35 < Steffanx> You didnt add it yet, Thorn
2017-09-17T19:27:42 < englishman> why would you want to use openocd when an excellent free ide, pro compiler and factory debugger exists
2017-09-17T19:29:05 < Steffanx> Excellent. LOL.
2017-09-17T19:29:30 < Steffanx> Sure the st-link is ok, but the IDE and compiler...
2017-09-17T19:29:49 < Steffanx> IDE is like keil version very acient.
2017-09-17T19:29:56 < Steffanx> which is not a good thing
2017-09-17T19:30:02 < Thorn> sdcc is the only compiler for stm8 that attempts to support c11 (partially) and c99
2017-09-17T19:31:05 < englishman> who likes ANSI C? All the homies
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2017-09-17T20:33:42 < PaulFertser> Thorn: there's a pending patch iirc
2017-09-17T20:34:08 < PaulFertser> Thorn: http://openocd.zylin.com/#/c/3953/
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2017-09-17T20:53:29 < Thorn> interesting
2017-09-17T20:53:59 < Thorn> I wonder why it's still pending, seems to have passed code review
2017-09-17T20:55:11 < Steffanx> " try to avoid lines of code longer than 72-80 characters (" damnit, is that still a thing?
2017-09-17T20:56:38 < PaulFertser> 120 is still sane, but longer than that is not really readable.
2017-09-17T20:56:44 < Thorn> gotta put those line numbers somewhere. what if you drop your punched card desk and need to use an IBM card sorting machine to put it back into order
2017-09-17T20:56:58 < PaulFertser> Actually, checkpatch is tuned to 120 or so in openocd.
2017-09-17T20:57:06 < Thorn> >Your HAL layer is the most bloated piece of code I have ever seen. It is terribly overweight and unnecessarily complex to learn and to execute at run time.
2017-09-17T20:58:17 < Cracki> https://community.st.com/community/stm32-community/stm32-forum/blog/2016/12/30/2017-stm32-wish-list?commentID=1370#comment-1355
2017-09-17T20:58:36 < Cracki> nvm, "bloated" occurs many times there
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2017-09-17T21:02:55 < Thorn> oh look, Official Position on HAL https://community.st.com/community/stm32-community/stm32-forum/blog/2016/12/30/2017-stm32-wish-list?commentID=1370#comment-1437
2017-09-17T21:03:13 < Thorn> >We understood that HAL could not always be a good fit for some applications or for embedded experts familiar with low level and more optimized programming.
2017-09-17T21:05:44 < Cracki> LL sounds good
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2017-09-17T21:12:41 < Thorn> >Finally, I would recall Clive's famous re-phrasing of one of Murphy's Laws: "A Monkey-Klick-Button software will only be used by Monkeys."
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2017-09-17T21:23:03 < Thorn> >I sometimes think your ST programmers suffer from coding diarrhea
2017-09-17T21:24:39 < Cracki> a sign that they have an abundance of coding time, more than enough to keep up with new HW
2017-09-17T21:25:05 < Cracki> so they find work themselves
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2017-09-17T21:44:00 < Thorn> wtf https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1TXZePXXXXXXGXXXXq6xXFXXXf/DC-Power-Supply-Module-For-DC-Power-Adapter-Plate.jpg_640x640.jpg
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2017-09-17T21:45:06 < BrainDamage> it's just part of the idea of electronic-modules-as-lego that some try to push on makers
2017-09-17T21:45:18 < BrainDamage> no engineering necessary, until you do
2017-09-17T21:46:51 < Thorn> there're 3 components there, 2 are probably led+resistor, why another resistor(?)
2017-09-17T21:47:47 < BrainDamage> there's resistor divider modules
2017-09-17T21:48:32 < Thorn> yeah https://d1xahwiwo4b49p.cloudfront.net/11780-large_default/voltage-sensor-resistor-divider-0-25v-module.jpg
2017-09-17T21:48:51 < BrainDamage> so why are you surprised of anything
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2017-09-17T21:53:47 < Steffanx> It's 0 ohm :D
2017-09-17T21:54:13 < Steffanx> and the silk says F, so i guess it was supposed to be a fuse.
2017-09-17T21:54:22 < zyp> careful so you don't divide voltage by zero
2017-09-17T21:55:09 < Steffanx> I'll divide you by zero.
2017-09-17T21:55:34 < zyp> why are you so angry tonight, Steffanx?
2017-09-17T21:55:40 < zyp> is there anything you want to talk about?
2017-09-17T21:55:48 < Steffanx> Angry? Where?
2017-09-17T21:56:04 < zyp> it's ok, you can tell us
2017-09-17T21:56:18 < Steffanx> Ok ok, i miss Laurenceb
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2017-09-17T22:00:12 < Steffanx> You have anything to share as well mr zyp?
2017-09-17T22:14:41 < zyp> not really
2017-09-17T22:26:14 < Cracki> nothing wrong with a little bromance
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2017-09-18T00:04:32 < boB_K7IQ> Any of you guys ever use the timer/pwm synchronization feature ?
2017-09-18T00:05:05 < qyx> yes
2017-09-18T00:18:23 < englishman> karlp: https://i.imgur.com/X55nuEx.jpg
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2017-09-18T00:36:17 < karlp> hoho, what's brewing?
2017-09-18T00:36:52 < karlp> I picked a bunch of yarrow recently,  planning on using that in the next brew, probably christmas beer
2017-09-18T00:37:43 < englishman> kölsch
2017-09-18T00:37:56 < englishman> pretty sure i miscalculated the hops and added 6x too much
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2017-09-18T00:38:01 < englishman> they were drier than i thought
2017-09-18T00:38:17 < englishman> will have to try again next week
2017-09-18T00:49:52 < Steffanx> no ##stm32 beer? :o
2017-09-18T00:55:59 < Thorn> can you optimize foo & 0x7f | 0x40 to a single op?
2017-09-18T00:56:20 < Thorn> (foo & 0x7f) | 0x40
2017-09-18T01:01:15 < qyx> probably not as you would like to force some bits to 1, force some bits to 0 and keep some bits as they are
2017-09-18T01:01:29 < qyx> too many possibilities for 0 & 1
2017-09-18T01:03:46 < qyx> isn't there some dsp instruction for that? it seems that some filters & stuff might use similar things (multiply & accumulate)
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2017-09-18T01:32:53 < Rob235> web dev blows
2017-09-18T01:33:48 < Steffanx> whats new?
2017-09-18T02:01:40 < Rob235> i just put my site on github and tooltips arent working, is it my code or are they disabled
2017-09-18T02:02:21 < Thorn> what tooltips? title="" attrs?
2017-09-18T02:03:22 < Rob235> bootstrap using tether
2017-09-18T02:03:31 < Rob235> but yes
2017-09-18T02:03:54 < Thorn> >You must include tether.min.js before bootstrap.js in order for tooltips to work!
2017-09-18T02:04:07 < Thorn> it's probably not loading
2017-09-18T02:05:26 < Rob235> i did, it works on my machine but not on github, im gonna try the cdn
2017-09-18T02:06:15 < Thorn> use chrome dev tools, open network tab, reload page, look for red text
2017-09-18T02:06:57 < Rob235> ahh its been blocked
2017-09-18T02:07:08 < Rob235> well thats a bitch
2017-09-18T02:09:52 < Rob235> oh https is enabled lets change that
2017-09-18T02:10:15 < Rob235> oh its required?
2017-09-18T02:11:02 < Steffanx> Youre mixin http with https?
2017-09-18T02:11:07 < Rob235> id need a custom domain to disable https
2017-09-18T02:11:15 < Rob235> github pages requires https if using their domain
2017-09-18T02:11:23 < Rob235> my site doesnt use it
2017-09-18T02:11:33 < Rob235> I wonder if these cdn links can use https?
2017-09-18T02:11:35 < Steffanx> So load the js from https as well
2017-09-18T02:11:42 < Rob235> oh that will work? ok
2017-09-18T02:11:50 < BrainDamage>  if you use https in the base url, then the whole shit needs to be https
2017-09-18T02:11:58 < Steffanx> Should work. As https is so common now
2017-09-18T02:12:37 < Rob235> oh i already had it set, it just didnt refresh that time
2017-09-18T02:12:39 < Rob235> its working
2017-09-18T02:12:47 < Steffanx>  \o/
2017-09-18T02:13:03 < Rob235> I wish I was better at UI design :P
2017-09-18T02:13:03 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-09-18T02:13:34 < Steffanx> Not phone compatible :P
2017-09-18T02:14:04 < Rob235> i havent tried it yet, was thinking about making it work on both but I cant really imagine ever using it from my phone
2017-09-18T02:14:45 < jadew> Rob235, good job, you have the start of a website that look like all the other websites
2017-09-18T02:14:59 < Rob235> heh
2017-09-18T02:15:07 < jadew> drop that bootstrap shit
2017-09-18T02:15:16 < Steffanx> Keel it :P
2017-09-18T02:15:18 < Rob235> why?
2017-09-18T02:15:19 < jadew> take inspiration from anything you like and do it yourself
2017-09-18T02:15:21 < Rob235> who cares
2017-09-18T02:15:23 < Steffanx> Keep
2017-09-18T02:15:40 < jadew> ah, if you don't care that's fine
2017-09-18T02:15:46 < Rob235> I just wanted a top nav bar like it has and a bunch of panels, why would I need anything else
2017-09-18T02:15:49 < Steffanx> Damn it. I have some déjà vu
2017-09-18T02:15:55 < jadew> normally when you make a website you want it to stand out
2017-09-18T02:16:17 < Rob235> I just want it functional, its just meant to upload files to my drawing robot
2017-09-18T02:16:23 < Rob235> its not advertising anything
2017-09-18T02:16:30 < englishman> website is fine
2017-09-18T02:16:42 < Steffanx> Its just a semi-personal project website. Who cared what it looks like?
2017-09-18T02:16:48 < Rob235> right
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2017-09-18T02:16:57 < Steffanx> cares
2017-09-18T02:16:58 < jadew> I still wouldn't use bootstrap
2017-09-18T02:17:07 < Rob235> what would you use? just curious
2017-09-18T02:17:13 < jadew> I'd do it from scratch
2017-09-18T02:17:26 < BrainDamage> http://tiffzhang.com/startup/?s=17517806048 let's pile up some sarcasm
2017-09-18T02:17:26 < Steffanx> Fuck no.
2017-09-18T02:17:30 < Rob235> meh fuck that
2017-09-18T02:18:10 < Steffanx> Foundation [something ] is an alternative
2017-09-18T02:18:10 < BrainDamage> the whole web stack is a pile of shit, no need to dig in with a shovel unless you have to
2017-09-18T02:18:47 < englishman> Encouraging. Everyone talks about it but only the truly affordable are able to encourage day in and day out. Here at Encouragen we understand your commitment and want to give you what you need to take your encouraging to the next level.
2017-09-18T02:19:06 < englishman> brilliant
2017-09-18T02:19:10 < Rob235> this project has my time taken on too many things. still learning to design the parts I need to 3d print, got that pretty much down, just gotta finish it now, never 3d printed anything before. plus using the esp8266 for the first time as a web server for this
2017-09-18T02:19:11 < Steffanx> Uhm?
2017-09-18T02:19:30 < englishman> taking "sending my thoughts and prayers omfg" on facebook and finding a way to monetize
2017-09-18T02:19:37 < Rob235> gonna use javascript to do AI stuff (simulated annealing for TSP with two agents) also first time doing any AI work
2017-09-18T02:20:03 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: http://tiffzhang.com/startup is a startup generator site
2017-09-18T02:20:39 < Steffanx> I forgot to add "jadew" braindamage
2017-09-18T02:20:41 < Rob235> i got too much to do to care about the ui.  Ive decided to scrap the touch screen for now too since i'll need the website to determine path order
2017-09-18T02:20:53 < Rob235> no need for both
2017-09-18T02:20:54 < englishman> MEET SUCCEEDHUB.
2017-09-18T02:20:54 < englishman> You like to succeed. Succeedhub does too.
2017-09-18T02:20:58 < jadew> Steffanx, where?
2017-09-18T02:21:19 < jadew> DESIRE. IMAGINE. DRIVE.
2017-09-18T02:21:20 < jadew> Buying ovens just got a whole lot better…
2017-09-18T02:21:22 < Steffanx> After or before the "Fuck no" jadew
2017-09-18T02:21:28 < Thorn> how to make a website stand out: <style>@keyframes meow { 0% { transform: rotate(0deg); 100% { transform: rotate(359deg); } } body { animation: meow 360s infinite linear; }</style>
2017-09-18T02:21:31 < jadew> ah, I knew that was for me
2017-09-18T02:22:03 < Steffanx> Dont forget the good old page change fade
2017-09-18T02:22:08 < jadew> I prefer my websites to look like websites looked in the 90's and be original, than look like every other website and leave no anchor in the user's mind
2017-09-18T02:22:21 < Steffanx> And a clock following your cursor.
2017-09-18T02:22:26 < jadew> hah
2017-09-18T02:22:30 < Steffanx> Oh and snow. Add snow
2017-09-18T02:22:35 < jadew> and music
2017-09-18T02:23:48 < Rob235> particle system following your cursor, rainbow snow a clock isnt fancy enough
2017-09-18T02:23:57 < Steffanx> I believe there is this piece of art that lets you play Lemmings on your website
2017-09-18T02:24:01 < englishman> and some http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/
2017-09-18T02:24:51 < Rob235> haha I think I used http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/AtAthensParthenon3947under_construction10.gif on a site I made back in like 1998
2017-09-18T02:25:08 < Steffanx> Aah englishman im getting nostalgic and all when i see those images
2017-09-18T02:25:36 < Steffanx> Now i want to install frontpage (express) again
2017-09-18T02:25:41 < jadew> now this is what they use for "under construction": https://media.giphy.com/media/jDyNncMyLrETS/giphy.gif
2017-09-18T02:25:45 < Thorn> missed a } <style>@keyframes meow { 0% { transform: rotate(0deg); } 100% { transform: rotate(359deg); } } body { animation: meow 360s infinite linear; }</style>
2017-09-18T02:27:41 < jadew> Thorn, wouldn't that rotate the entire page?
2017-09-18T02:27:59 < Thorn> yes it would
2017-09-18T02:28:02 < jadew> once per hour? :)
2017-09-18T02:28:05 < jadew> nice
2017-09-18T02:28:15 < Thorn> 6 minutes
2017-09-18T02:28:18 < BrainDamage> back at geocities time it was cool tough, i had classmates making their own webpages
2017-09-18T02:28:21  * jadew hides
2017-09-18T02:28:30 < Thorn> but you can make it slower for a better mindfuck experience
2017-09-18T02:29:28 < Thorn> combine with a slow soothing music for best results
2017-09-18T02:34:21 < Rob235> with those visible music controls on the bottom of old websites
2017-09-18T02:47:58 < Rob235> I dont even know how websites work anymore, so when someone clicks a tab on top is it a new html page or do the panels change in code or something
2017-09-18T02:51:15 < Steffanx> Do what you like
2017-09-18T02:52:09 < Rob235> id like to know what is generally done so that im not learning new shit for nothing
2017-09-18T03:08:20 < jadew> Rob235, depends
2017-09-18T03:08:48 < jadew> depends on what you're doing, and if you want it like that
2017-09-18T03:09:03 < jadew> if you decide you want it like that, browsers support history insertion
2017-09-18T03:09:32 < jadew> so you can insert new URLs in the histroy, such that when the user hits back, you can reconstruct the page based on the URL
2017-09-18T03:09:43 < Rob235> i see
2017-09-18T03:10:21 < Rob235> I think separate pages are fine for this, only thing im wondering is putting the nav bar code in a separate file so that I dont have multiple copies of it.  Im sure thats simple though
2017-09-18T03:10:58 < jadew> you'd normally want your entire layout to be separate from what you're displaying
2017-09-18T03:11:28 < jadew> and you only have content that has to be displayed, surrounded by the layout
2017-09-18T03:12:01 < Rob235> well the layout is just the navbar on top basically and the content is different panels of info/settings
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2017-09-18T04:19:31 < dongs> englishman: allahu akbar
2017-09-18T04:20:26 < englishman> ☪️
2017-09-18T04:20:31 < dongs> < englishman> dongs https://youtu.be/y0ss6gCPNs4?t=2m54s
2017-09-18T04:20:43 < englishman> good stuff eh
2017-09-18T04:20:50 < dongs> the video is kinda twitchy tho
2017-09-18T04:20:57 < dongs> is taht my gaming rig fuckign shit up or is that the source
2017-09-18T04:21:02 < englishman> source
2017-09-18T04:21:13 < aandrew> holy fuck
2017-09-18T04:21:14 < aandrew> hahaha
2017-09-18T04:21:58 < aandrew> yeah the video encode is shit
2017-09-18T04:23:25 < dongs> englishman: https://youtu.be/4_F1YevSy7I?t=30 related vid
2017-09-18T04:24:33 < englishman> blowing up dead animals
2017-09-18T04:24:36 < englishman> real redneck shit
2017-09-18T04:25:32 < tpw_rules> are live ones more or less redneck
2017-09-18T04:25:49 < englishman> live ones are efficient pest control
2017-09-18T04:27:39 < aandrew> speaking of wild animals
2017-09-18T04:27:48 < aandrew> I never told you guys about the coyote that stole my paper this morning
2017-09-18T04:27:56 < aandrew> https://youtu.be/MtyAn9lsGLs
2017-09-18T04:28:11 < aandrew> found it in the backyard next to a pile of shit, I think he just wanted something to read while taking a dump
2017-09-18T04:28:31 < englishman> say goodbye to any neighbourhood kitties
2017-09-18T04:28:32 < dongs> haha what a fgt
2017-09-18T04:28:50 < aandrew> well I went to the backyard and I saw a rabbit there and was thinking "holy fuck that's a suicidal bunny"
2017-09-18T04:29:00 < aandrew> rabbit was there for about 30s then tore off into the forest
2017-09-18T04:29:07 < aandrew> about 10s later the coyote came around looking for him
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2017-09-18T04:36:35 < stvn> electromagnetic niggers
2017-09-18T04:55:22 < englishman> arriving at work noon monday
2017-09-18T04:55:30 < englishman> typical self employed
2017-09-18T04:55:34 < dongs>  the quality of the motherboard DRAM VRM becomes crucial for stability in case of DDR4-4500 and DDR4-4600 modules. For the same reason, Corsair does not equip its ultra-fast Vengeance LPX DIMMs with RGB LEDs because they may affect power supply and stability.
2017-09-18T04:55:38 < dongs> haha
2017-09-18T04:55:45 < englishman> lol
2017-09-18T04:57:41 < Cracki> how the hell does that "reasoning" go? a module burns like 10 watts or something, an LED is maybe a hundredth of that
2017-09-18T04:58:04 < dongs> how the fuck does the reasoning about includng rgb leds on a fucking ram module go
2017-09-18T04:58:07 < Cracki> and I'm sure these modules' power fluctuates more than an LED ever could
2017-09-18T04:58:21 < Cracki> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ no clue what they indicate
2017-09-18T04:58:30 < Cracki> something's accessing ram all the time anyway
2017-09-18T04:58:36 < dongs> Corsair’s new Vengeance LPX 16 GB (8 GB×2) DDR4-4500 and DDR4-4600 kits are going to hit the market in the coming days, and they are going to be expensive. The DDR4-4500 kit will retail at $479.99, whereas the DDR4-4600 kit will retail for $549.99.
2017-09-18T04:58:40 < dongs> also fucking what
2017-09-18T04:58:42 < dongs> $500 for 16gb ram
2017-09-18T04:58:47 < dongs> what kinda fucktards would pay for this
2017-09-18T04:58:52 < Cracki> once SSDs are replaced by even faster stuff, LED indicators will be obsolete
2017-09-18T04:58:56 < dongs> i think I bought 32gb of some shitsung stuff for like $89
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2017-09-18T04:59:21 < Cracki> people pay for the rated transfer rates and access times
2017-09-18T04:59:50 < Cracki> (I don't see a reason to buy anything other than the best price/performance product)
2017-09-18T05:00:03 < stvn> if i was self employed i'd be rich
2017-09-18T05:01:07 < englishman> computer hardware enthusiasts are audiophiles with shittier magazines
2017-09-18T05:01:27 < dongs> The 8Pack series comprises the absolute pinnacle of complete PC systems, replete with ultra high-end equipment and designed by the number 1. worldwide overclocking champion, the multi-world record holder Ian "8Pack" Parry. With a knack for electronics and a steady hand this Englishman created every one of these systems bearing his name from the ground up, and thus the ultimate in premium overclocked systems came to be.
2017-09-18T05:01:33 < dongs> englishman: i didnt know you freelanced as gaming rig maker
2017-09-18T05:02:27 < Cracki> hmmm "bespoke" rigs for rich dumbasses
2017-09-18T05:02:40 < dongs> https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-orionx-dual-pc-extreme-overclocked-pc-intel-core-i7-6950x-and-intel-core-i7-7700k-fs-006-8p.html
2017-09-18T05:02:45 < dongs> *really* rich dumbasses
2017-09-18T05:03:07 < dongs> i had to scroll the page to the right to see the price
2017-09-18T05:03:09 < Cracki> hohoho good god 5 figures
2017-09-18T05:03:49 < Cracki> wait two CPUs, but not the same? and they're consumer, not xeon, what is that
2017-09-18T05:03:59 < dongs> its literally two mobos inside the case
2017-09-18T05:04:03 < dongs> atx + miniitx
2017-09-18T05:04:06 < Cracki> whyyyy
2017-09-18T05:04:10 < dongs> who knows
2017-09-18T05:04:13 < Cracki> one a streaming slave?
2017-09-18T05:04:42 < dongs> Additional: An appropriate operating system such as Windows 10 or 8.1 can be ordered at the same time in the drop-down menu and we'll even install it for you!
2017-09-18T05:04:46 < dongs> at least tehse guys know what they're doing
2017-09-18T05:04:47 < Cracki> "Perfectly applied Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut thermal compound"
2017-09-18T05:04:55 < englishman> number 1. worldwide overclocking champion
2017-09-18T05:05:00 < englishman> putting this on linkedin
2017-09-18T05:05:06 < dongs> haha
2017-09-18T05:06:51 < stvn> 8cack
2017-09-18T05:08:06 < dongs> lol the mini itx also has a titan x in it
2017-09-18T05:08:11 < dongs> so 4 titanx card total
2017-09-18T05:08:19 < dongs> what the fuck that box is just retardred
2017-09-18T05:12:07 < stvn> fucking pcs
2017-09-18T05:12:22 < stvn> and the autism of motherboards
2017-09-18T05:12:25 < stvn> muh fuckin caps
2017-09-18T05:12:30 < stvn> muh fucking PHASES
2017-09-18T05:13:42 < dongs> i saw some shit by a PROEE on analtech teh other day
2017-09-18T05:13:47 < dongs> how phases are obsolete
2017-09-18T05:13:50 < dongs> lemme dig it up
2017-09-18T05:15:15 < englishman> nice
2017-09-18T05:17:10 < dongs> hmm wehre is this shit.
2017-09-18T05:19:21 < tpw_rules> wait do you not get 8 of them
2017-09-18T05:19:43 < dongs> 8 whats
2017-09-18T05:19:44 < tpw_rules> this is bullshit
2017-09-18T05:19:50 < tpw_rules> 8 pack of these gaming pc
2017-09-18T05:20:47 < tpw_rules> 8 of em for £26k isn't bad
2017-09-18T05:21:38 < englishman> LAN party starter kit (just add friends)
2017-09-18T05:21:49 < tpw_rules> yeh
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2017-09-18T05:53:16 < stvn> fuck
2017-09-18T05:55:05 < stvn> i should make aftermarket pioneer play/cue tactile switch boards
2017-09-18T05:55:12 < stvn> the fucking niggers want $50+ for them
2017-09-18T05:55:18 < stvn> 1 layer piece of garbage
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2017-09-18T06:24:09 < englishman> holy shit
2017-09-18T06:24:16 < englishman> fuck skype
2017-09-18T06:24:46 < dongs> no kidding
2017-09-18T06:25:26 < dongs> whats wrong with it this time
2017-09-18T06:27:15 < stvn> china girl
2017-09-18T06:27:27 < stvn> i met my first china girl on skype
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2017-09-18T06:38:12 < dongs> what the shit happened to upgrdman
2017-09-18T06:38:43 < dongs> did he RIP
2017-09-18T06:41:26 < dongs> can someone with LUNIX and logs access see last time he shatted
2017-09-18T06:41:47 < dongs> i donno how to GREP a WEBPAGE cuz im not IT guy pro lunix user
2017-09-18T06:44:55 < stvn> thinking about it
2017-09-18T06:45:42 < stvn> oh not in this month's log
2017-09-18T06:45:46 < stvn> guess jpa blocked him
2017-09-18T06:45:51 < dongs> i dont think so
2017-09-18T06:45:53 < dongs> he hasnt been around
2017-09-18T06:46:00 < stvn> that was my joke
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2017-09-18T06:46:07 < stvn> probably radicalized then
2017-09-18T06:47:27 < c4017> !seen upgrdman
2017-09-18T06:47:44 < dongs> 8/30 was last in logs
2017-09-18T06:47:46 < c4017> y no bot here
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2017-09-18T06:47:55 < dongs> RIP
2017-09-18T06:47:58 < stvn> x2017-08-30T06:45:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving]
2017-09-18T06:48:01 < stvn> yup
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2017-09-18T06:56:08 < englishman> sold him for parts
2017-09-18T06:57:42 < dongs> xiao wang
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2017-09-18T07:52:26 < ohsix> boobies
2017-09-18T07:53:02 < ohsix> stvn: know how to use eagle or whatever? good idea, you should
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2017-09-18T07:53:19 < ohsix> can get a lifetime supply for a few cents each
2017-09-18T07:53:23 < ohsix> sell them to other broz
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2017-09-18T07:59:24 < stvn> MiC
2017-09-18T08:00:01 < ohsix> i'd do it for practice if you got pixxx and some measurements
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2017-09-18T08:24:17 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/2Hj33x1.jpg JAPS
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2017-09-18T08:39:05 < ohsix> upgrdman sez he's fine, and home & on irc in < 24h
2017-09-18T08:46:45 < stvn> LOL
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2017-09-18T08:59:00 < Thorn> dafuq is going on https://pastebin.com/FkGQAtQD
2017-09-18T08:59:22 < dongs> GNU COMPILER COLLECTION
2017-09-18T08:59:35 < Thorn> this is not gcc
2017-09-18T09:00:08 < Thorn> especially the adc instruction, wtf is it doing
2017-09-18T09:00:17 < dongs> add with carry
2017-09-18T09:00:39 < dongs> #0 is probly a relative offset to some data segment-type shit
2017-09-18T09:01:59 < dongs> business categories:
2017-09-18T09:02:01 < dongs> 1. prom dresses
2017-09-18T09:02:03 < dongs> 2. integrated circuits
2017-09-18T09:02:05 < dongs> 3. aprons
2017-09-18T09:02:08 < dongs> ??????????
2017-09-18T09:02:15 < dongs> nice chian
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2017-09-18T09:06:50 < Thorn> there is no addw x, <8-bit>, maybe that is why all this dance
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2017-09-18T09:11:46 < stvn> muh job comments
2017-09-18T09:11:47 < stvn> Finish previous technician's job by properly cleaning the previous drinkspill from the cd loader mech and reassemble it properly. Now it can read a disc again.
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2017-09-18T09:16:35 < stvn> this is a pile of dogshit
2017-09-18T09:34:41 < ohsix> ReadErr: atlanta won an emmy
2017-09-18T09:35:42 < stvn> fuck
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2017-09-18T10:13:12 < ReadErr> ohsix: oh nice
2017-09-18T10:13:14 < ReadErr> when it start back
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2017-09-18T10:29:18 < dongs> https://github.com/FPGAwars/apio#installation
2017-09-18T10:29:20 < dongs> fucking WHY
2017-09-18T10:29:31 < dongs> fucking opensores imbeciles
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2017-09-18T10:43:43 < qyx> not enuf python?
2017-09-18T10:49:26 < dongs> what fuckwad came up with scroll wheel out = zoom out, in = zoom in
2017-09-18T10:49:38 < dongs> i.e. the reverse from what veveryone was used to since mice with scroll wheels came out
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2017-09-18T11:22:19 < Steffanx> You seem to have a bad day dongs. zyp wants to talk about it with you.
2017-09-18T11:30:43 < Fleck> so, tim3 is set up in encoder mode, but it counts by 4, I just add prescaler to 3?
2017-09-18T11:30:49 < Fleck> or is there better way?
2017-09-18T11:37:46 < Tectu> not only zyp
2017-09-18T11:47:20 < dongs> fleck, if you didn't have me on ignore, you'd know that each step of encoder is actually 4 distinct states
2017-09-18T11:47:37 < dongs> Fleck: therefore on a clicky encoder, it counts by 4 while on a soft/nonclicking one you can see all 4 states as you slowly turn it
2017-09-18T11:48:03 < dongs> conclusion: fuck you
2017-09-18T11:50:46 < Steffanx> Such rage today, better take a joint or a nap dongs. Time to relax
2017-09-18T11:51:06 < dongs> ya today has been non-stop rage
2017-09-18T11:51:28 < Thorn> a fap
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2017-09-18T11:55:26 < Tectu> dongs, sup man? Where is all the hate coming from? Did GCC release an update?
2017-09-18T11:55:45 < dongs> yes
2017-09-18T11:55:54 < dongs> also your keyboard sometimes shift-Z doesnt work
2017-09-18T11:56:16 < dongs> Z by itself does
2017-09-18T11:56:17 < dongs> shift-z doesnt
2017-09-18T11:56:20 < Tectu> lol wut?
2017-09-18T11:56:23 < dongs> yes
2017-09-18T11:56:25 < dongs> dead srs
2017-09-18T11:56:29 < Tectu> never had that
2017-09-18T11:56:30 < dongs> shift-Z = nothign happens
2017-09-18T11:56:33 < Tectu> ahaha
2017-09-18T11:56:35 < dongs> just z lower case = OK
2017-09-18T11:56:42 < Tectu> better complain
2017-09-18T11:56:51 < Tectu> that must be super annoying
2017-09-18T11:56:51 < dongs> i cant even google that kinad shit up
2017-09-18T11:57:00 < Tectu> ofc you can´t :-D
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2017-09-18T11:59:41 < stvn> calling Steffan
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2017-09-18T12:10:09 < stvn> crt
2017-09-18T12:10:10 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tFca529TY0
2017-09-18T12:11:17 < dongs> what the fuck is a rgb mod
2017-09-18T12:11:40 < dongs> oh like
2017-09-18T12:11:44 < dongs> crt output
2017-09-18T12:12:02 < stvn> its either composite or that
2017-09-18T12:15:27 < Tectu> dongs, why not turning the rage knob a few click down? It seems like you´re all the way up to 11 today
2017-09-18T12:15:36 < stvn> sup tec2
2017-09-18T12:15:50 < Tectu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMSV4OteqBE
2017-09-18T12:16:02 < stvn> yes i seen it
2017-09-18T12:18:10 < stvn> the old memezbro
2017-09-18T12:24:25 < stvn> Tectu, how are it?
2017-09-18T12:27:23 < jpa-> oh, Tec3 is here
2017-09-18T12:27:24 < Tectu> 7
2017-09-18T12:27:25 < Tectu> there?
2017-09-18T12:27:30 < stvn> ,,,,
2017-09-18T12:28:26 < stvn> gotta design me another amplifier~
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2017-09-18T12:44:31 < qyx> what could "improve code complexity" commit mean
2017-09-18T12:45:27 < ohsix> ReadErr: some time in 2018
2017-09-18T12:45:51 < karlp> qyx: someone with english as a second language saying they were making it less complex
2017-09-18T12:45:51 < ohsix> qyx: cyclomatic complexity?
2017-09-18T12:46:02 < karlp> could be purely objectively in the eye of the beholder too
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2017-09-18T12:48:06 < Thorn> git commit -m 'improve job security'
2017-09-18T12:48:38 < dongs> yeahm, i would say that means "reduce code complexity"
2017-09-18T12:48:42 < dongs> why dont you read teh diff and see what he did?
2017-09-18T12:48:50 < dongs> it should be pretty obvious from looking
2017-09-18T12:49:16 < qyx> yeah, changed fpga to FPGA for example
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2017-09-18T12:49:25 < qyx> or added more lines
2017-09-18T12:49:37 < qyx> just browsing that apio
2017-09-18T12:49:42 < dongs> oh
2017-09-18T12:50:06 < qyx> seems like they still support only the lattice ice40
2017-09-18T12:50:41 < karlp> don't worry, they have translations in catalan, basque and galician.
2017-09-18T12:50:49 < ohsix> that's cuz of icestorm being the only open source fpga bitstream thing
2017-09-18T12:51:34 < karlp> there's no reason fo the apio tool environment to restrict itself like that though
2017-09-18T12:51:41 < karlp> platformio itself certainly doesn't
2017-09-18T12:51:58 < qyx> which reminds me
2017-09-18T12:52:05 < qyx> yesterday I noticed Freertos:IO
2017-09-18T12:52:21 < qyx> didn't have time to check if it is actually usable
2017-09-18T12:52:27 < karlp> freertos plus io? or something else?
2017-09-18T12:52:30 < dongs> what translations
2017-09-18T12:52:45 < karlp> dongs: that fpgawars APIO tool
2017-09-18T12:52:53 < qyx> yes, probably that one
2017-09-18T12:53:12 < karlp> qyx: that's just pay addons for freerots, like fat/cli/networking/etc
2017-09-18T12:53:40 < qyx> not much free then
2017-09-18T12:53:42 < qyx> ok
2017-09-18T12:53:46 < karlp> there's usb host/device too, all separately purchasable chunks.
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2017-09-18T12:53:58 < karlp> no, they're for use with freertos/safertos, not free in any other sense of teh word
2017-09-18T12:54:40 < karlp> well, looks like that one at least is available as gpl2 also.
2017-09-18T12:55:10 < karlp> not the freertos linking exception gpl either, but pure gpl2
2017-09-18T12:55:23 < dongs> i dont get it
2017-09-18T12:55:30 < dongs> PlatformIO allows developer to compile the same code with different development platforms using the Only One Command  platformio run
2017-09-18T12:55:33 < dongs> "command"?
2017-09-18T12:55:37 < dongs> why would I choose some CLI shit over KEIL
2017-09-18T12:55:44 < karlp> you wouldn't
2017-09-18T12:55:49 < karlp> you're not the target, so just ignore it.
2017-09-18T12:56:07 < karlp> rememeber, you got up ont he wrong side of the bed this morning, but the days' nearly over :)
2017-09-18T12:58:13 < dongs> screenshot of ide: blink.cpp
2017-09-18T12:58:20 < dongs> yeah, im sure i can blink led on 400 platforms
2017-09-18T13:00:11 < dongs> haha scons
2017-09-18T13:00:12 < dongs> python
2017-09-18T13:00:12 < dongs> wow
2017-09-18T13:00:15 < dongs> this thing is jsut fail on fail
2017-09-18T13:00:20 < dongs> closing page in disgust
2017-09-18T13:00:30 < dongs> i mean not like i epected anything hosted on .io to be any better but
2017-09-18T13:00:44 < dongs> w ait its .org but wahtever
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2017-09-18T13:01:36 < Thorn> why specify error amp voltage gain in a buck converter?
2017-09-18T13:01:56 < Thorn> and transconductance
2017-09-18T13:04:05 < BrainDamage> karlp: he had to flee from a typhoon: https://twitter.com/mondomascots/status/908976898373328896
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2017-09-18T13:48:33 < dongs> found the ee shit
2017-09-18T13:49:09 < dongs> http://www.anandtech.com/comments/11685/amd-threadripper-x399-motherboards/575089
2017-09-18T13:52:18 < invzim> wizards.. smallest/cheapest stm32 with usb dfu..  stm32f3 something?
2017-09-18T13:55:48 < Thorn> wtf is hybrid-PWM
2017-09-18T13:58:55 < emeryth> invzim: f042 or f072
2017-09-18T13:59:19 < emeryth> also has crystalless usb
2017-09-18T14:02:05 < dongs> +1 for 042
2017-09-18T14:02:16 < dongs> used it, crystalless dfu works gr8
2017-09-18T14:02:24 < dongs> short boot, receive bacon. pro stuff.
2017-09-18T14:02:45 < dongs> 32QFN
2017-09-18T14:02:49 < dongs> is like 5x5 or someshit
2017-09-18T14:02:58 < dongs> <$1
2017-09-18T14:04:09 < dongs> 10. Comparison of Inductor in the buck converter with capacitors in PWM-Resonant Cuk converter for 200W
2017-09-18T14:04:13 < dongs> more like cuck converter
2017-09-18T14:05:11 < Thorn> is MP1584 good
2017-09-18T14:05:28 < Thorn> specs look ideal for my use case
2017-09-18T14:05:38 < dongs> looks normal - ive used similar shit before
2017-09-18T14:05:50 < dongs> has diode and compensation loop
2017-09-18T14:06:01 < dongs> infact its probly a clone of all sorts of shit in similar pinout
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2017-09-18T14:06:37 < dongs> Thorn: how about this for sync ? http://www.richtek.com/en/Products/Switching%20Regulators/DC_DC%20StepDown%20Convertor/RT8293B?specid=RT8293B
2017-09-18T14:06:49 < Thorn> I just ordered 50 from aliexpress, hope it's not a fake
2017-09-18T14:06:53 < dongs> oh
2017-09-18T14:07:01 < dongs> well then i guess you dont care bout the choices
2017-09-18T14:07:04 < dongs> yeah they should be legit
2017-09-18T14:08:00 < Thorn> I'm compiling a list, AP2952A is another one, lower specs but it's sync
2017-09-18T14:08:23 < Thorn> like that richtek
2017-09-18T14:08:31 < dongs> that looks ilke same pinout as richtek
2017-09-18T14:11:39 < daey> why do some OS require the cpu to have a MMU but others (seemingly mainly realtime os) do not require it?
2017-09-18T14:12:03 < Thorn> virtual memory requires MMU
2017-09-18T14:12:58 < Thorn> is that a phase lead compensator btw
2017-09-18T14:13:01 < daey> i see. so the os's that do not require it work directly with the hardware addresses`?
2017-09-18T14:13:10 < Thorn> in the MP1584 circuit
2017-09-18T14:13:28 < dongs> the comp loop?
2017-09-18T14:13:30 < dongs> i donno wat it is.
2017-09-18T14:13:38 < Thorn> looks like phase lead or lag
2017-09-18T14:13:40 < dongs> i call those "shit that needs me to get oddball part values that I'll nver use elsewhere"
2017-09-18T14:13:47 < BrainDamage> yes, and 'complex' os also run generic software instead of a tightly controlled list, there's no memory protection in rtos
2017-09-18T14:13:58 < BrainDamage> so a program can edit the shared pool
2017-09-18T14:14:12 < daey> ah. that i understand
2017-09-18T14:14:46 < daey> so a MMU gives each process a "clean" memory which is mapped by it to the hardware.
2017-09-18T14:14:50 < Thorn> no VM -> all tasks use real memory addresses and have fixed start address unless code is relocatable or is patched at load time
2017-09-18T14:14:58 < Thorn> which is ok for MCU firmware
2017-09-18T14:15:19 < dongs> im sure if nuttx had a way to make use of memory protection, it would
2017-09-18T14:15:21 < daey> and an MMU cant be done in software?
2017-09-18T14:15:43 < Thorn> it won't be fast or foolproof
2017-09-18T14:16:27 < qyx> baptisming of the module
2017-09-18T14:16:28 < qyx> such words
2017-09-18T14:17:02 < qyx> apparently they were referring to the initial setup
2017-09-18T14:17:31 < daey> played around with an embedded rtos for the first time yesterday. chibios :)
2017-09-18T14:17:49 < dongs> terrible choice
2017-09-18T14:18:05 < daey> not mine. the custom keyboard firmware qmk uses it
2017-09-18T14:18:07 < dongs> should have just installed lunix
2017-09-18T14:18:12 < dongs> hahaha that mess.
2017-09-18T14:18:16 < daey> yeah
2017-09-18T14:18:29 < dongs> man, i tried to understand what those dicks are doing a few months back. such terrible shit all around
2017-09-18T14:18:34 < daey> at first i thought. wow this looks nice
2017-09-18T14:18:42 < dongs> to be expected, cuz the original was written for avrturd
2017-09-18T14:19:03 < daey> i did a du on the proejct folder...450MB :D
2017-09-18T14:20:15 < dongs> i did a shift-del on the folder
2017-09-18T14:20:18 < dongs> much better
2017-09-18T14:20:51 < dongs> haha, they use uguufx
2017-09-18T14:20:53 < dongs> attn Tectu
2017-09-18T14:20:59 < dongs> are they paying you license feez
2017-09-18T14:21:13 < daey> Tectu wrote it?
2017-09-18T14:21:18 < dongs> ugfx? yeah
2017-09-18T14:21:30 < daey> the world is small i guess :^)
2017-09-18T14:22:04 < daey> its not under a free to use licence?
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2017-09-18T14:22:33 < dongs> i think there's some free shit but not free enough for most communists
2017-09-18T14:23:03 < Thorn> 20pcs of stm8s103 from ebay arrived at my post office. people complained on aliexpress that they got doa/fake ones. hope I'm more lucky
2017-09-18T14:23:09 < dongs> https://ugfx.io/pricing
2017-09-18T14:23:45 < daey> why do you consider chibios to be bad? the docu looks really well made. (i assume he cared about the code just as much)
2017-09-18T14:24:10 < Thorn> for the same reason gcc is horrible
2017-09-18T14:24:19 < Thorn> dongs and open source do not mix
2017-09-18T14:24:41 < daey> i see
2017-09-18T14:36:08 < karlp> chibios docs look nice, but aren't, was my experience
2017-09-18T14:36:33 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-09-18T14:36:43 < Laurenceb> I got b& :(
2017-09-18T14:36:53 < dongs> from your job?
2017-09-18T14:36:53 < daey> :(
2017-09-18T14:37:12 < daey> one min too early
2017-09-18T14:37:18 < karlp> daey: but lots of other people love it :)
2017-09-18T14:37:19 < daey> now its 1337
2017-09-18T14:37:34 < karlp> stinky central eurofag
2017-09-18T14:37:43 < karlp> get onto proper UTC where the cool kids live
2017-09-18T14:37:45 < daey> get on my lvl
2017-09-18T14:37:48 < karlp> still 11:37
2017-09-18T14:37:56 < Laurenceb> from here by Steffanx
2017-09-18T14:37:57 < daey> where are you?
2017-09-18T14:38:04 < daey> uk?
2017-09-18T14:38:08 < Laurenceb> its was a blandly heteronormative experience
2017-09-18T14:38:10 < karlp> timezones are for losers, get rid of them all, stop the pointless waste of coder time over the years
2017-09-18T14:38:24 < karlp> fuck no, laurence is britpopper.
2017-09-18T14:38:26 < karlp> not me.
2017-09-18T14:38:30 < Laurenceb> I blame the patriarchy
2017-09-18T14:38:44 < karlp> they can't even keep their clocks on one time all year :)
2017-09-18T14:39:19 < daey> just curious. i dont think theres a -1utc in europe is there? or is the daylight saving time already over where you live?
2017-09-18T14:39:30 < karlp> daylightsavingwat?
2017-09-18T14:39:38 < karlp> utc, all the time.
2017-09-18T14:39:43 < karlp> like god intended.
2017-09-18T14:39:58 < karlp> one time to rule them all, and without, unify and eliminate arguments
2017-09-18T14:40:51 < Laurenceb> at first I was like.. and then I was like...
2017-09-18T14:40:54 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/N0fcrh1
2017-09-18T14:41:52 < invzim> emeryth: thanks, I'll have a peek
2017-09-18T14:42:23 < daey> karlp: ghana it is
2017-09-18T14:42:25 < Laurenceb> btfo https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/909356611348697088
2017-09-18T14:43:32 < karlp> daey: close.
2017-09-18T14:43:51 < daey> no no, tha was a definition. not an if :p
2017-09-18T14:44:02 < karlp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_Island
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2017-09-18T14:46:47 < daey> karlp: is that for real? i thought you would be from island :X
2017-09-18T14:47:30 < Laurenceb> the solution for all you shitposters tbh https://imgur.com/6s2UqdZ
2017-09-18T14:47:31 < daey> iceland*
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2017-09-18T14:48:39 < daey> it sounds a bit small for people inhabiting it. i get the feeling im being trolled ó.Ó
2017-09-18T14:50:35 < Laurenceb> this is a designated troll channel
2017-09-18T14:50:38 < Laurenceb> so probably
2017-09-18T14:52:59 < dongs> infact STM stands for supreme trolling masters
2017-09-18T14:53:18 < BrainDamage> daey: this is his alarm clock sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjlJBmwF3PI
2017-09-18T14:53:28 < dongs> This video contains content from WMG and Warner Chappell, one or more of whom have blocked it on copyright grounds.
2017-09-18T14:53:42 < daey> ive only got lynx as a browser atm
2017-09-18T14:53:48 < dongs> snort
2017-09-18T14:54:27 < daey> ssh session. im not a minimalst :p
2017-09-18T14:54:33 < BrainDamage> if i write a line longer than 80 chars, will it go out of screen?
2017-09-18T14:55:04 < Laurenceb> daey confirmed as RMS
2017-09-18T14:55:22 < daey> pls no
2017-09-18T14:55:44 < daey> just not at home atm~ pesky work
2017-09-18T14:55:58 < Fleck> ;pp
2017-09-18T14:58:18 < Thorn> who makes Vin max = 23V? can't use for 24V, too much headroom for 12V
2017-09-18T14:58:27 < dongs> thorn, that RT is 23V
2017-09-18T14:58:38 < dongs> or do you mean why they make them?
2017-09-18T14:58:46 < dongs> thats not 'too much' headroom for automotive 12V
2017-09-18T14:58:47 < Thorn> yeah I'm reading its datasheet
2017-09-18T14:59:00 < dongs> i guess most use of thoese is in laptops
2017-09-18T14:59:03 < dongs> where Vin = 19V
2017-09-18T14:59:28 < Thorn> that would make sense
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2017-09-18T15:03:28 < Thorn> (but not for me)
2017-09-18T15:03:59 < karlp> daey: yes, I'm in iceland :)
2017-09-18T15:06:17 < daey> intriguing
2017-09-18T15:07:07 < karlp> what, that's intriguing but ascenscion was trolling? ;)
2017-09-18T15:07:45 < daey> ascension reads like the fiery pits of mordor
2017-09-18T15:11:27 < Laurenceb> moar liek Thursday Island amirite?
2017-09-18T15:12:12 < karlp> shoulda stayed b& laurence, you're just as funny.
2017-09-18T15:13:11 < Laurenceb> wait no
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2017-09-18T15:13:13 < Laurenceb> Pitcairn Island
2017-09-18T15:13:28 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Islands#Sexual_assault_trials_of_2004
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2017-09-18T15:25:09 < Rob235> damn white arrow: https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-09-18T15:31:42 < Thorn> Rob235: .popover.bs-popover-bottom .arrow::after { border-bottom-color: black !important; }
2017-09-18T15:32:59 < karlp> what white arrow?
2017-09-18T15:35:28 < Steffanx> in the manu hover
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2017-09-18T15:44:27 < Laurenceb> Rob235 is doing web dev?
2017-09-18T15:45:36 < Steffanx> fyi Laurenceb. Laurenceb__ isnt banned, he has +q.
2017-09-18T15:46:13 < Steffanx> small different
2017-09-18T15:46:14 < dongs> +jew
2017-09-18T15:49:28 < Steffanx> *difference
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2017-09-18T15:54:03 < Thorn> dongs favorite programming language (because not python) http://cxem.net/uprav/images/uprav101-9.png
2017-09-18T15:55:02 < jadew> Thorn, that looks like shit
2017-09-18T15:55:12 < jadew> there's a programming language for kids, that looks much better
2017-09-18T15:55:24 < jadew> I think MS made it, but I may be wrong
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2017-09-18T15:55:37 < Thorn> some "statements" even overlap
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2017-09-18T15:56:47 < Laurenceb> I got eye cancer from that png
2017-09-18T15:57:09 < Steffanx> I wonder how fast someone with no programming experience will learn this compared to something like vb.net
2017-09-18T15:57:54 < jadew> apparently there are quite a few languages like that these days
2017-09-18T15:58:02 < Fleck> Steffanx: you are in netherlands?
2017-09-18T15:59:00 < jadew> but yeah, that png is awful, I think its purpose is to drive kids mad enough that they start learning a proper programming language
2017-09-18T15:59:01 < Rob235> Thorn: yea ive been trying all variations of that but still not working, let me try what you typed
2017-09-18T15:59:32 < Rob235> Laurenceb: trying my hand at some web dev to create a control panel for my drawing robot
2017-09-18T15:59:40 < Laurenceb> ah
2017-09-18T15:59:46 < Laurenceb> web dev is cancer tbh
2017-09-18T15:59:54 < Rob235> yea its annoying
2017-09-18T15:59:58 < Laurenceb> literally easier to learn Qt
2017-09-18T16:00:23 < Rob235> i hate ui shit, i'm not very good at it and because of that I spend countless hours making tiny changes
2017-09-18T16:00:37 < Laurenceb> heh me too
2017-09-18T16:00:48 < jadew> Laurenceb, I pretty sure everyone on that island had sex with everyone else
2017-09-18T16:00:59 < jadew> it's not like they're not all close relatives anyway
2017-09-18T16:01:03 < Laurenceb> thats the joke dude
2017-09-18T16:01:20 < Laurenceb> incest island
2017-09-18T16:01:46 < Rob235> awesome Thorn !!! thank you
2017-09-18T16:01:48 < Rob235> it worked
2017-09-18T16:02:08 < jadew> Laurenceb, what did you say your cousin's handle was?
2017-09-18T16:02:22 < Laurenceb> lul u arent getting that
2017-09-18T16:02:26 < jadew> :P
2017-09-18T16:02:37 < Laurenceb> im not supid enough to allow trolling to go into irl
2017-09-18T16:02:40 < jadew> been wondering about that last night
2017-09-18T16:02:57 < Laurenceb>  "wondering" is an interesting term for fap
2017-09-18T16:03:27 < Laurenceb> also she is retired now cuz shes pregnant
2017-09-18T16:03:37 < jadew> ah
2017-09-18T16:03:40 < Laurenceb> uncle Laurenceb soon
2017-09-18T16:03:45 < jadew> nice
2017-09-18T16:04:02 < Rob235> Jesus, I had er.bottom .arrow:after instead of .popover.bs-popover-bottom .arrow::after and wasted hours on that
2017-09-18T16:04:20 < Rob235> .popover.bottom .arrow:after
2017-09-18T16:04:25 < Rob235> is what i had
2017-09-18T16:04:42 < jadew> Rob235, use sass
2017-09-18T16:04:54 < Rob235> can you use cdn with that?
2017-09-18T16:05:01 < Rob235> theres so much shit to learn
2017-09-18T16:05:05 < Rob235> this is all new to me
2017-09-18T16:05:09 < jadew> it compiles to css and you upload the result
2017-09-18T16:05:18 < jadew> (there are tools that compile it as you type it)
2017-09-18T16:05:29 < jadew> and it's almost like CSS, just better
2017-09-18T16:05:33 < Rob235> I'll look into it later, ive been enjoying just having the cdn links
2017-09-18T16:05:45 < jadew> you can do things like .parent { .child { } }
2017-09-18T16:05:54 < jadew> and it will generate both .parent and .parent .child
2017-09-18T16:06:02 < jadew> or if you define it as &.child { }
2017-09-18T16:06:06 < jadew> .parent.child
2017-09-18T16:06:08 < Rob235> i saw it makes editing global bootstrap variables simple too
2017-09-18T16:06:23 < jadew> yeah, you can have variables too
2017-09-18T16:06:32 < jadew> $whatever: 5px;
2017-09-18T16:06:36 < Rob235> yea
2017-09-18T16:06:37 < jadew> padding: $whatever;
2017-09-18T16:06:43 < jadew> it's great
2017-09-18T16:06:51 < Rob235> bootstrap has every variable linked to do that
2017-09-18T16:07:14 < Rob235> I just am tired of learning new shit without actually getting content on the page
2017-09-18T16:07:17 < Rob235> I'm*
2017-09-18T16:07:22 < Rob235> oh nvm hah
2017-09-18T16:07:26 < Rob235> i didnt sleep last night at all :P
2017-09-18T16:08:21 < jadew> I've been stuck on a web component for almost a year now
2017-09-18T16:08:29 < Rob235> I need to draw out what I want on these pages because I'm trying to work outwards (less detail to more detail) and its not gonna work
2017-09-18T16:08:30 < jadew> whenever I think it's done, some other shit comes up
2017-09-18T16:08:46 < Thorn> bootstrap is the #2 reason for dissatisfaction with web dev (after php)
2017-09-18T16:09:00 < Rob235> I dont really see a problem with bootstrap
2017-09-18T16:09:14 < jadew> Rob235, what do you mean less detail to more detail?
2017-09-18T16:09:14 < Rob235> its only my first full day of using it but its got what I need
2017-09-18T16:09:17 < jadew> that's inwards
2017-09-18T16:09:33 < Rob235> i meant to type outwards in*
2017-09-18T16:09:40 < Rob235> my brain is skipping words
2017-09-18T16:09:46 < jadew> take a nap
2017-09-18T16:09:59 < Rob235> I cant nap, I'll sleep until the next morning if I do
2017-09-18T16:10:21 < jadew> Rob235, the problem with bootstrap is that you didn't do it
2017-09-18T16:10:34 < jadew> so when you need something that's not in the tutorial, you have to start digging
2017-09-18T16:10:53 < jadew> and if it doesn't do it already and you have to change something... good luck with not breaking something else
2017-09-18T16:11:08 < Rob235> yea I can see that
2017-09-18T16:11:31 < Rob235> I thought of a cool idea for the page but theres not enough content to do it
2017-09-18T16:12:32 < jadew> I remember there used to be a program that had chicks randomly pop up on the desktop and perform a striptease routine
2017-09-18T16:12:38 < jadew> that would be cool on any website
2017-09-18T16:12:42 < Laurenceb> haha funtimes
2017-09-18T16:12:55 < Laurenceb> we used to install that on overhead projectors at school
2017-09-18T16:12:57 < Rob235> instead of having panels of different settings or whatever it would show a panel and then as you scroll vertically the one panel would zoom out and another would zoom in.
2017-09-18T16:13:04 < Rob235> using something similar but not really to this: https://codepen.io/derekjp/pen/gaWxNd
2017-09-18T16:13:15 < Rob235> but its overly complicated for the little information i'll be showing
2017-09-18T16:13:33 < jadew> Laurenceb, heh, I wonder why they kept letting you work on the school computers
2017-09-18T16:13:41 < Laurenceb> I got b&
2017-09-18T16:14:12 < Laurenceb> got b& for irl trolling Tony Blair with the overhead projectors
2017-09-18T16:16:23 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKAC_YGV4AAEchS.jpg
2017-09-18T16:16:28 < Rob235> what should I use to draw on part of the screen? doesn't html5 have canvas or something
2017-09-18T16:16:39 < Laurenceb> when you see it you'll shit bricks
2017-09-18T16:16:48 < englishman> Laurenceb you see why they call it chairforce
2017-09-18T16:17:09 < Laurenceb> check the guy nearest to the camera
2017-09-18T16:17:22 < jadew> Rob235, it does, but I don't know how that works
2017-09-18T16:17:26 < jadew> what do you want to draw?
2017-09-18T16:17:29 < Rob235> lines
2017-09-18T16:17:36 < dongs> procedural dickbutt
2017-09-18T16:17:37 < Rob235> of different color
2017-09-18T16:17:45 < Rob235> maybe arcs
2017-09-18T16:17:52 < Rob235> but I can use lines for that too if necessary
2017-09-18T16:18:04 < dongs> of course theres fucking canvas that you can draw shit on
2017-09-18T16:18:06 < dongs> its 2017
2017-09-18T16:18:08 < dongs> ngggr
2017-09-18T16:18:13 < jadew> look into canvas I guess, but you could also do it with SVG
2017-09-18T16:18:27 < Rob235> haha I know but I'm sure theres multiple options, just wondering what is my best choice
2017-09-18T16:18:28 < jadew> see what seems easier
2017-09-18T16:18:29 < Thorn> canvas, svg, webgl, some css-only tricks for very simple vector shit
2017-09-18T16:18:46 < Thorn> like that arrow
2017-09-18T16:19:00 < Rob235> i'll look into canvas and svg
2017-09-18T16:19:22 < englishman> With CPU power approaching 150 Amps, all these MBs are brain dead right out the gate, for using 50y old 8+ phase Buck converter topology, where VRMs with multiple phases still have poor response settling times (not one cycle settling but 20 cycles), lowish efficiencies way below 98% needing substantial heat sinks; while being saddled with the vagaries of inductive energy storage which takes up a lot of space and
2017-09-18T16:19:22 < englishman> cost much more. Instead they should be using hybrid-PWM switching eliminating hard switch of high currents, where fractional cycle resonance ensures zero current switching and almost no switching losses. Resonance frequency scaling of the inductor/capacitor eliminates the need for ferrite cores altogether, reducing both size and core losses.
2017-09-18T16:19:35 < dongs> yes, that pwm-cuck converter
2017-09-18T16:19:36 < Laurenceb> cool copypasta troll dude
2017-09-18T16:19:47 < dongs> i think he's a powerintegrators shill
2017-09-18T16:19:52 < dongs> those guys keep sending me spam
2017-09-18T16:19:58 < dongs> about these unobtainuium parts
2017-09-18T16:20:02 < englishman> oh boy i sure ROASTED that guy on anandntech forum
2017-09-18T16:20:04 < englishman> with my KNOWLEDGE
2017-09-18T16:20:05 < Laurenceb> the vagaries of inductive energy storage which takes up a lot of space
2017-09-18T16:20:22 < Laurenceb> >fractional cycle resonance
2017-09-18T16:21:14 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLDgQg6bq7o
2017-09-18T16:21:36 < Thorn> what does it mean? the converter has its own switching period  regardless of what the pwm controller is trying to do?
2017-09-18T16:22:31 < Laurenceb> its nonsense dude
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2017-09-18T16:23:02 < Laurenceb> paralytic mandalynium
2017-09-18T16:24:51 < Rob235> Thorn: can you change the outline of the arrow?
2017-09-18T16:25:27 < Thorn> it's made of border so I doubt it
2017-09-18T16:25:32 < Thorn> if you draw it using svg then you can
2017-09-18T16:25:57 < Rob235> actually I kinda like it blue
2017-09-18T16:26:08 < Rob235> it looks weird if its black like the rest
2017-09-18T16:28:17 < Thorn> englishman: 50pcs/lot STM8S003F3P6TR US $13.78 with shipping <-- is it a good price?
2017-09-18T16:28:34 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-09-18T16:28:39 < Laurenceb> $13.78 for 50?
2017-09-18T16:28:50 < Thorn> yes
2017-09-18T16:29:13 < Laurenceb> cheaper than mouser etc
2017-09-18T16:29:27 < Thorn> it's aliexpress
2017-09-18T16:32:31 < BrainDamage> cuk converters do store most of their energy in the cap, but getting the topology to work right is a whole another can of bullshit, even more if you're so retarded as to use coreless inductors, your whole pcb layout becomes super critical
2017-09-18T16:32:51 < BrainDamage> because the parasitic part of the traces are just as relevant as the lumped shit
2017-09-18T16:39:55 < Steffanx> why this wifi thing mr Rob235?
2017-09-18T16:39:58 < Steffanx> icon
2017-09-18T16:40:07 < karlp> BrainDamage: if you don't try so hard for "minimal" coils though, and just go for "a lot smaller than normal" are they that hard still?
2017-09-18T16:40:40 < tomeaton17> Great I ordered the wrong chip the BQ7620 instead of the BQ76920... Week of dev time down the drain..
2017-09-18T16:41:21 < Steffanx> Yes, why Fleck?
2017-09-18T16:41:26 < Rob235> I was thinking of having it so originally the esp8266 creates its own network and then you go to the wifi settings to set up which network to connect to. I guess I cant really think of any other reason for it, maybe its not necessary
2017-09-18T16:42:11 < tpw_rules> tomeaton17: are they related at all
2017-09-18T16:42:55 < jadew> Rob235, you can leave a text document shared on your PC with instructions in chinese for how you want the ESP to be configured after they're done using it
2017-09-18T16:42:56 < Rob235> I guess I'll have to have a physical button or sometthing on the robot to reset the wifi settings. then if you press it it goes into whatever host mode is called and you can do what I said
2017-09-18T16:43:21 < BrainDamage> karlp: depends, from a designer pov, they are more annoying, more components and more switches, their main adv for efficiency is exactly that the coils are less important, so if you don't play it the most it kinda feels like wasted efforts
2017-09-18T16:43:41 < BrainDamage> might as well slap there a buckboost, and get the same effect
2017-09-18T16:45:16 < BrainDamage> if you use a transformer in place of the separated inductors you can sorta compromise, but I've only seen that mentioned when i studied them, not on a practical application
2017-09-18T16:45:26 < tomeaton17> tpw_rules:: Well they are both for battery management but apart from that...
2017-09-18T16:45:33 < Laurenceb> anyone here used onedrive?
2017-09-18T16:45:47 < Laurenceb> I dont know anything about how it works :(
2017-09-18T16:45:56 < Laurenceb> its a could service run by micro$oft?
2017-09-18T16:46:02 < tpw_rules> yeh
2017-09-18T16:46:16 < Laurenceb> I'm supposed to use it for wurk :(
2017-09-18T16:46:26 < tpw_rules> it's just dropbox
2017-09-18T16:46:33 < Laurenceb> dont even know what the login url is going to look like
2017-09-18T16:46:34 < Laurenceb> k
2017-09-18T16:46:37 < tomeaton17> Its like googledrive by intergrates with windows well
2017-09-18T16:46:42 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-09-18T16:47:09 < jadew> and without google looking through your stuff
2017-09-18T16:47:27 < Laurenceb> That Microsoft account doesn't exist. Enter a different account
2017-09-18T16:47:33 < Laurenceb> this is going well
2017-09-18T16:47:40 < jadew> enter one that exists :)
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2017-09-18T16:48:26 < tomeaton17> Microsoft look through your stuff aswell...
2017-09-18T16:48:54 < BrainDamage> if you don't want your file hoster to look at your shit, encrypt before upload
2017-09-18T16:49:25 < Laurenceb> can companies clone microsoft onedrive?
2017-09-18T16:49:33 < tomeaton17> Or just host your own stuff
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2017-09-18T16:49:47 < Laurenceb> nobody can give me any info on how this shit has been set up :(
2017-09-18T16:49:51 < tomeaton17> raspberry pi nas is easy to setup
2017-09-18T16:50:00 < Laurenceb> yeah 10 times simpler too
2017-09-18T16:50:22 < jadew> yeah, but hosting your own stuff is not as useful if it's hosted in the same location with all your other stuff
2017-09-18T16:50:25 < Laurenceb> https://login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf not working for me
2017-09-18T16:50:31 < jadew> you have to host it somewhere else
2017-09-18T16:51:03 < tomeaton17> I am hosting mine back at my parents house because they have quick internet
2017-09-18T16:51:40 < tomeaton17> Actually looking at the wrong chip I ordered it looks like a companion chip to the one I was meant to order so not the end of the world
2017-09-18T16:51:41 < jadew> I encrypt and upload to dropbox + encrypted version on a thumb drive I have on my keychain
2017-09-18T16:52:40 < jadew> + DVDs and local NAS :P
2017-09-18T16:53:15 < Laurenceb> aha there is OneDrive for Business
2017-09-18T16:53:24 < tomeaton17> Fair enough, I prefer hosting my own stuff so I've got my vpn on the pi aswell
2017-09-18T16:54:22 < Laurenceb> hmm zero chance of me ever working this out
2017-09-18T16:54:30 < Laurenceb> tiem to find a micro$oft irc
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2017-09-18T16:54:58 < Laurenceb> looks like I'll need to s/ https://login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf/ some onedrive for business shit
2017-09-18T16:55:22 < tomeaton17> Why do you always say micro$oft
2017-09-18T16:55:30 < Laurenceb> cuz they suck
2017-09-18T16:56:21 < tomeaton17> I wouldn't say they suck, but some of their telemetry practices are questionable
2017-09-18T16:56:27 < Laurenceb> and seem to have liek 0 documentation for this shit
2017-09-18T16:57:10 < tomeaton17> Because its meant to just work ©
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2017-09-18T17:00:11 < Thorn> so my buck converter is going to see 2 kinds of loads: over an amp and <5mA
2017-09-18T17:00:28 < Thorn> no way it's going to be in CCM for the 2nd one
2017-09-18T17:00:52 < Steffanx> if its for business, dont you have a sys admin for this mr Laurenceb ?
2017-09-18T17:00:52 < Thorn> that would take an enormous inductor
2017-09-18T17:01:03 < karlp> Laurenceb: are you trying to implement an onedrive client?
2017-09-18T17:01:16 < tomeaton17> Didn't realise it would be that easy to get a freesample from TI
2017-09-18T17:01:27 < tomeaton17> Now I don't need to tell my boss I ordered the wrong part
2017-09-18T17:01:39 < tomeaton17> Not technically the wrong part
2017-09-18T17:02:10 < Steffanx> You boss makes it a problem? It's not a $100 part is it?
2017-09-18T17:03:13 < tomeaton17> No its about $3/unit but there is so much paperwork I have to do if I want to send something back
2017-09-18T17:03:25 < tomeaton17> For my company and for TI
2017-09-18T17:04:30 < BrainDamage> Thorn: so split that into 2 sep converters
2017-09-18T17:05:01 < BrainDamage> or accept shit efficiency for 5mA loads
2017-09-18T17:05:05 < Thorn> one would be linear then
2017-09-18T17:05:24 < qyx> and this TI shit like TPS54010 or similar?
2017-09-18T17:05:39 < qyx> that thing has <0.5mA Icc iirc
2017-09-18T17:06:30 < qyx> no, thats not the one I meant
2017-09-18T17:06:59 < qyx> tps54060 is 0.5A with ecomode
2017-09-18T17:07:07 < qyx> 116uA Iq
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2017-09-18T17:09:57 < Thorn> it's interesting but it would add cost
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2017-09-18T17:10:48 < qyx> or LMR23625
2017-09-18T17:11:23 < qyx> actually there are ~40 parts satisfying <100uA Iq, 24Vin, 3V3 out
2017-09-18T17:11:27 < qyx> 1.5A out
2017-09-18T17:12:40 < BrainDamage> running it in dcm is perfectly possible with many chips, you just get shit efficiency
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2017-09-18T17:13:50 < jadew> DCM = direct current mode?
2017-09-18T17:13:59 < jadew> as in, linear regulator mode?
2017-09-18T17:14:02 < Laurenceb> karlp: no, its already setup
2017-09-18T17:14:03 < BrainDamage> discontinous current mode
2017-09-18T17:14:08 < jadew> ah
2017-09-18T17:14:20 < BrainDamage> as in, current will drop down to 0 in the energy storing element
2017-09-18T17:15:03 < BrainDamage> https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CpEFA5EKppw/VtkHz5b7FXI/AAAAAAAANJE/gNUaJ22oApc/s1600/15.png
2017-09-18T17:15:38 < BrainDamage> more current ripple in the inductor = more dissipation and more ripple at output
2017-09-18T17:15:50 < karlp> Laurenceb: so what are you trying to do?
2017-09-18T17:16:06 < Laurenceb> connect to a onedrive for business drive
2017-09-18T17:16:15 < Laurenceb> I have username and password...
2017-09-18T17:16:31 < Laurenceb> dont know what the url is :S
2017-09-18T17:16:51 < dongs> isnt that just msn/whatever teh fuck microsoft calsl it now account>?
2017-09-18T17:16:59 < jadew> BrainDamage, thanks for the link
2017-09-18T17:17:00 < dongs> so you should be able to go to main login and drive from there
2017-09-18T17:17:13 < Laurenceb>  https://login.live.com/oauth20_authorize.srf
2017-09-18T17:17:17 < jadew> they call it live
2017-09-18T17:17:18 < Laurenceb> fails for me
2017-09-18T17:17:35 < BrainDamage> use https://login.live.com/ not that weird url
2017-09-18T17:17:46 < dongs> https://onedrive.live.com/
2017-09-18T17:17:50 < dongs> yeah and that
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2017-09-18T17:18:00 < jadew> that URL is for authentication within some application
2017-09-18T17:18:18 < Laurenceb> holy shit it works
2017-09-18T17:18:23 < Laurenceb> thanx dongs
2017-09-18T17:18:25 < karlp> you were trying to hard dumbshit
2017-09-18T17:18:32 < Laurenceb> heh
2017-09-18T17:18:33 < karlp> what on earth were you trying ot guess magical urls for?
2017-09-18T17:18:36 < BrainDamage> how do you even computer
2017-09-18T17:18:47 < dongs> lol dumbass
2017-09-18T17:18:53 < Laurenceb> karlp: from onedrive for lunix docs
2017-09-18T17:19:00 < dongs> > lunix
2017-09-18T17:19:03 < dongs> theres your problem
2017-09-18T17:19:07 < Laurenceb> obviously they made it overcomplex
2017-09-18T17:19:14 < BrainDamage> i think you're mixing dev docs with user docs
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2017-09-18T17:19:27 < englishman> Thorn: lgtm
2017-09-18T17:19:27 < BrainDamage> that looks like an api, not a user login form
2017-09-18T17:19:36 < Laurenceb> well I'm still using onedrive for lunix
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2017-09-18T17:19:52 < Laurenceb> their magic url was out of date
2017-09-18T17:19:54 < karlp> onedrive for business doesn't work on linux I thought?
2017-09-18T17:19:58 < karlp> I just use the web ui
2017-09-18T17:20:02 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-09-18T17:20:09 < Laurenceb> I'll find out shortly
2017-09-18T17:20:29 < BrainDamage> there's simply no official client for onedrive on lunix
2017-09-18T17:20:38 < BrainDamage> so 'onedrive for linux' depends on what you use
2017-09-18T17:20:53 < Thorn> englishman: cool
2017-09-18T17:21:24 < Laurenceb> now I have 10TB of pronz storage
2017-09-18T17:21:40 < Laurenceb> someone paid the micro$oft some bux
2017-09-18T17:22:21 < Thorn> don't upload CP there, they have content match shit
2017-09-18T17:22:30 < karlp> BrainDamage: eh, fair enough, I saw how confused it was and thought, "let's not bother even trying the clients then"
2017-09-18T17:22:50 < Laurenceb> Thorn knows from experience
2017-09-18T17:22:54 < BrainDamage> karlp: i agree
2017-09-18T17:30:12 < Thorn> hmmm actually the chip that I ordered has pulse skipping mode and Iq max = 125 µA
2017-09-18T17:30:22 < Thorn> I got lucky
2017-09-18T17:30:24 < Laurenceb> Thorn: what are you building?
2017-09-18T17:30:30 < dongs> iT62140 is a half-bridge gate driver IC integrated
2017-09-18T17:30:31 < dongs> with power MOS, it is designed for motor driver
2017-09-18T17:30:32 < dongs> applications
2017-09-18T17:30:39 < dongs> does that mean gate driver + nmos/wahtever?
2017-09-18T17:30:44 < Rob235> heh, I may have gone overboard listing what I want to display: https://pastebin.com/xHCnuR1Y
2017-09-18T17:33:29 < Thorn> Laurenceb: a pretty useless shit to control ws2812b via rs-485 using stm8
2017-09-18T17:33:49 < Laurenceb> rs-485 isnt super low power
2017-09-18T17:33:53 < Thorn> maybe someone will see it and want something more serious for themselves
2017-09-18T17:34:38 < Thorn> it's rx only in normal operation
2017-09-18T17:34:40 < Laurenceb> lulwut https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/10C61/production/_97850786_hi041801817.jpg
2017-09-18T17:35:19 < Laurenceb> irl *blocks your path* meme
2017-09-18T17:37:43 < dongs> wat
2017-09-18T17:40:14 < karlp> Laurenceb: not in the traditional /re == de wired together rs485 drivers no, and not when you add line biasing and things, but if you split the re/de pins, you can actually get a lot less power when you're "off"
2017-09-18T17:40:33 < karlp> but yeah, 1mA pretty constant for rx only.
2017-09-18T17:40:49 < Laurenceb> ah yeah if you "sleep" the device it will be low power
2017-09-18T17:41:03 < englishman> nobody said anything about low power?
2017-09-18T17:41:29 < karlp> thorn ws concerned about the efficiecy of it in the 5mA range vs the 1.5A range.
2017-09-18T17:41:36 < karlp> I'm just shittalking with laurence because it's monday
2017-09-18T17:41:38 < englishman> oh not the stm8
2017-09-18T17:42:04 < englishman> and well yea
2017-09-18T17:42:25 < englishman> Hueg channel low current = high loss
2017-09-18T17:42:41 < karlp> Laurenceb: what's meant to be going on behind the wall?!
2017-09-18T17:42:44 < englishman> got a good krausen going already karlp
2017-09-18T17:42:56 < Laurenceb> karlp: terrirsm
2017-09-18T17:43:00  * karlp never pays attention at that stage
2017-09-18T17:43:25 < englishman> I'm always worried about splodin or fast ferm on light beera
2017-09-18T17:43:41 < englishman> luckily it's cold this week
2017-09-18T17:43:57 < Steffanx> englishman: i just did a -> thing, will i die from rage now?
2017-09-18T17:44:01  * karlp never understands why people try and fermet in containers too small :)
2017-09-18T17:44:29 < Fleck> Steffanx: just, was reading archive and found this: http://baltvideo.com/en/latvia/in-the-city-of-ventspils-locals-beat-up-navy-sailors-of-nato
2017-09-18T17:47:52 < Laurenceb> >Many of them were drunk, doing the natural deed, liying in his vomit, toring out beds of flowers, drinking in public places. For those who were obedient, the police composed small fines
2017-09-18T17:47:55 < Laurenceb> I liek dis
2017-09-18T17:51:16 < jadew> "One soldier badly damaged."
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2017-09-18T17:51:39 < jadew> should have started with "We damaged your property. It was your fault."
2017-09-18T17:51:50 < Fleck> ;p
2017-09-18T17:54:37 < Fleck> google translate maybe :p
2017-09-18T17:55:53 < Laurenceb> looks like onedrive-d fails for onedrive business
2017-09-18T17:55:56 < Laurenceb> lunix fail
2017-09-18T17:58:51 < Laurenceb> https://www.gumtree.com/p/live-out-nanny-babysitting-jobs/looking-for-an-after-school-part-time-nanny-for-my-two-girls-starting-october/1265490350
2017-09-18T17:59:03 < Laurenceb> >  like pasta and sauce
2017-09-18T18:01:45 < Fleck> locals ofc got fined too :D
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2017-09-18T18:03:01 < jadew> tf... that's an amazing rate for being a nany
2017-09-18T18:03:05 < jadew> is that normal in the UK?
2017-09-18T18:03:15 < karlp> what's funny about pasta and sauce?
2017-09-18T18:03:23 < karlp> soudns like shit pay to me...
2017-09-18T18:03:42 < karlp> I think that's even under minimum wage.
2017-09-18T18:04:06 < jadew> maybe I should move to UK then
2017-09-18T18:04:28 < Laurenceb> but muh pizzagate
2017-09-18T18:04:38 < Laurenceb> it code for pedo
2017-09-18T18:05:11 < karlp> not for normal people
2017-09-18T18:05:19 < karlp> it just means pasta and sauce for normal people
2017-09-18T18:05:21 < englishman> not sure how you plan to live in UK for 18gbp/day
2017-09-18T18:05:29 < englishman> even if its cash
2017-09-18T18:05:38 < Laurenceb> another clue that its pedo
2017-09-18T18:05:57 < englishman> delaurenceb is delusional
2017-09-18T18:06:40 < englishman> what did you do steff
2017-09-18T18:06:52 < englishman> show me on the puppet where the penguin touched you
2017-09-18T18:07:12 < jadew> englishman, you work more than 2 hours par day
2017-09-18T18:07:32 < englishman> sometimes
2017-09-18T18:08:08 < Steffanx> I ordered something from ARROW mr englishman. And y u no press tab?
2017-09-18T18:08:20 < englishman> mobile
2017-09-18T18:08:40 < englishman> I'm iutt witnessing consumer society at its peak
2017-09-18T18:09:44 < Steffanx> Arrow is much nicer when it comes to small orders as in ~$20
2017-09-18T18:11:02 < Steffanx> Farnell is useless often, sadly.
2017-09-18T18:11:11 < englishman> how so? Freeship?
2017-09-18T18:12:33 < Steffanx> Ya.
2017-09-18T18:12:38 < Steffanx> cheapskate <4
2017-09-18T18:12:39 < Steffanx> <3
2017-09-18T18:14:28 < englishman> works
2017-09-18T18:14:39 < englishman> 4 shipments for the price of none!
2017-09-18T18:18:25 < Steffanx> :)
2017-09-18T18:30:50 < tomeaton17> Has anyone experienced the I2C SDA spazzing out periodically
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2017-09-18T18:31:34 < jadew> spazzing?
2017-09-18T18:31:40 < jadew> you get noise on it?
2017-09-18T18:32:16 < jadew> bad connection?
2017-09-18T18:32:31 < tomeaton17> No, the SCL line stays high, but SDA starts varying from vcc to ground really quickly
2017-09-18T18:33:06 < karlp> you turned on another peripheral using it's pins as AF?
2017-09-18T18:33:42 < jadew> no pullup?
2017-09-18T18:34:03 < Thorn> define "really quickly"
2017-09-18T18:34:32 < Thorn> does it mean "slower than normal I2C transitions"?
2017-09-18T18:34:32 < tomeaton17> HAve a pull up and no other peripheral
2017-09-18T18:34:45 < tomeaton17> It means looks like noise on the scope
2017-09-18T18:35:04 < tomeaton17> I think the bluepill is busted because the 3.3V pin is outputting 4.7V
2017-09-18T18:40:52 < tomeaton17> So when I reset the board it displays this https://gyazo.com/08b6eb076596874da401a17a9bf6e057
2017-09-18T18:42:52 < jadew> looks like no pullup
2017-09-18T18:43:05 < jadew> or it's being driven low
2017-09-18T18:43:46 < tomeaton17> I expect thats the case because it only happens when I press reset
2017-09-18T18:44:00 < tomeaton17> If I hold down the reset button it stays high
2017-09-18T18:44:21 < jadew> time to remove pieces of code
2017-09-18T18:44:24 < jadew> start with all
2017-09-18T18:48:45 < tomeaton17> Yeah nothing happens when just uploading blank code
2017-09-18T18:49:12 < tomeaton17> As soon as I send I2C write it does it
2017-09-18T18:49:29 < tomeaton17> This has happened before but I can't remember how I fixed it
2017-09-18T18:50:31 < karlp> you fixed it by not using i2c anymore? :)
2017-09-18T18:51:11 < tomeaton17> yeah so if I don't run the code I need it works great !
2017-09-18T18:51:36 < jadew> now run only the code you need
2017-09-18T18:52:05 < tomeaton17> So it looks like HAL_I2C_Init is not returning ok
2017-09-18T18:52:06 < karlp> data + bss = static ram used right?
2017-09-18T18:52:45 < tomeaton17> In what cases does it do that?
2017-09-18T18:53:35 < tomeaton17> Documentation doesn't really say
2017-09-18T18:55:52 < tomeaton17> Ah fuck this I will fix it tomorrow
2017-09-18T18:57:56 < jadew> https://www.rigolna.com/products/dc-power-loads/dl3000/
2017-09-18T18:58:13 < jadew> costs as much as I paid for mine and looks much nicer
2017-09-18T19:03:27 < Thorn> DAVE did a review
2017-09-18T19:03:32 < Thorn> found lots of problems
2017-09-18T19:04:27 < tomeaton17> Did he actually use it? Haven't watched it but thought it was a teardown
2017-09-18T19:04:53 < Thorn> mostly attempts to use
2017-09-18T19:04:57 < tomeaton17> His phrase "Don't turn it on tear it apart" is bloody annoying because some of the equipment he has is amazing
2017-09-18T19:04:57 < Thorn> iirc
2017-09-18T19:05:12 < tomeaton17> Ok I will watch it later
2017-09-18T19:05:51 < jadew> I'm watching it now
2017-09-18T19:08:22 < tomeaton17> I see this mikeselectricstuff guy on everyone of daves videos... does he not realise you can send just one comment
2017-09-18T19:11:19 < qyx> that riglol web stopped at "transferring fonts from fonts.googleapis.com"
2017-09-18T19:12:11 < tomeaton17> I would recommend a kikusui electronic load
2017-09-18T19:12:59 < tomeaton17> Have one at work and its a very nice piece of kit
2017-09-18T19:17:04 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW-q_nTPcQU Industrial Dance times
2017-09-18T19:19:52 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2eyuLZTmQM
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2017-09-18T19:27:53 < kakimir> I think I have heard some other song from this artist
2017-09-18T19:28:35 < Laurenceb> shrug I give up
2017-09-18T19:28:43 < Laurenceb> sharepoint is a disaster zone
2017-09-18T19:28:49 < Laurenceb> even the web gui is failing
2017-09-18T19:31:45 < Laurenceb> I'll tell them to use a samba share
2017-09-18T19:40:21 < Steffanx> pebkac.
2017-09-18T19:40:53 < Steffanx> ( i hear nothing but bad stories about sharepoint though :P )
2017-09-18T19:42:18 < qyx> the sp itself is moderately usable
2017-09-18T19:42:44 < qyx> but the web office is a piece of crap
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2017-09-18T19:43:08 < qyx> also, office365 is slow as hell even on a gbit network
2017-09-18T19:48:48 < Steffanx> what kind of files Laurenceb shares anyway? Not something you would use some sort of version control for?
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2017-09-18T20:59:10 < BrainDamage> you can use version control with file hosting
2017-09-18T20:59:18 < BrainDamage> it's actually what i use cloud shit for
2017-09-18T20:59:30 < BrainDamage> git -> encfs -> cloud shit
2017-09-18T20:59:43 < BrainDamage> everything works transparently once you set it up
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2017-09-18T21:01:06 < zyp> but what's the point? not requiring to trust a server/service? what are you doing that needs to be that secret?
2017-09-18T21:01:40 < BrainDamage> that, i don't have to trust any of the cloud stuff in terms of data secrecy, only on reliability
2017-09-18T21:01:52 < BrainDamage> and i put it over multiple ones for redudancy
2017-09-18T21:02:22 < Rob235> Thorn: dude how do you figure out those type of things you told me earlier? I'm trying to change a font awesome icon color in the navbar on hover.  I found these .navbar-custom lines including: .navbar-custom .nav-item:hover .nav-link { color: #00ff00; } but this shit never works.  How do figure that stuff out
2017-09-18T21:02:51 < BrainDamage> they can learn any metadata they want such as access, write sizes, etc, just not the content
2017-09-18T21:02:52 < aandrew> hm, I don't trust cloud for anything, but it's handy for cheap storage. duplicity encrypts with gpg and sends that shit to S1 for backups. I can move to a different provider or even my own server
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2017-09-18T21:04:02 < aandrew> syncthing is good for distributed replication but it's not perfect
2017-09-18T21:04:09 < BrainDamage> i use cloud shit as a cheap communication system between me & my collaborators
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2017-09-18T21:04:26 < BrainDamage> upload to shared folder encrypted, and give decryption key to others
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2017-09-18T21:05:03 < BrainDamage> once i get that stupid patent, i won't care as much
2017-09-18T21:05:57 < BrainDamage> in terms of complexity it's mostly just added layer of encfs sitting there, but it's transparent as soon as you set it up
2017-09-18T21:06:04 < BrainDamage> so it's a 1-off thing
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2017-09-18T21:09:18 < englishman> i just drag and drop into slack
2017-09-18T21:12:50 < BrainDamage> how dare you betray irc
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2017-09-18T21:22:08 < kakimir>  how does 5ghz wifi has better range than 2.4ghz
2017-09-18T21:22:11 < kakimir> it says in internets
2017-09-18T21:22:19 < kakimir> 2,4ghz 20meters
2017-09-18T21:22:26 < kakimir> 5,8ghz 60meters
2017-09-18T21:22:35 < kakimir> I dont believe it
2017-09-18T21:22:39 < Steffanx> Less interference?
2017-09-18T21:22:50 < kakimir> maybe
2017-09-18T21:22:55 < Steffanx> From other 2.4ghz networks?
2017-09-18T21:23:08 < Steffanx> But you live in the middle of nowhere, so cant be
2017-09-18T21:23:41 < Thorn> Rob235: chrome dev tools
2017-09-18T21:23:56 < Rob235> what do you do
2017-09-18T21:27:38 < Thorn> like this? i.glyph-blue:hover { color: red;  }
2017-09-18T21:27:39 < jpa-> right click the web page and select "inspect element"
2017-09-18T21:28:10 < jpa-> it will show nicely which css rules override what others
2017-09-18T21:28:52 < Thorn> right click, inspect, go up the hierarchy if needed, find which element has the property that you want to change (if any) etc.
2017-09-18T21:29:13 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki
2017-09-18T21:29:59 < Thorn> you can force :hover if it's css only or execute setTimeout(() => {debugger;}, 5000) in the console to stop everything in the state that you want if it's a javascript effect
2017-09-18T21:30:38 < Rob235> ok i'll have to mess around with this
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2017-09-18T21:32:50 < Thorn> there are 2 distinct mechanisms in css: rule cascading and property inheritance, you better read up on those
2017-09-18T21:33:27 < jpa-> the real fix is to put !important after everything
2017-09-18T21:33:27 < Thorn> neithher is obvious
2017-09-18T21:34:35 < Steffanx> Hah
2017-09-18T21:34:44 < Steffanx> Pro web developer here
2017-09-18T21:37:42 < Thorn> if you really put !important after everything it will have no effect
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2017-09-18T22:16:24 < zyp> if everything is important, nothing is important
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2017-09-18T22:19:34 < Steffanx> that's what you add .. !important :P
2017-09-18T22:22:13 < Thorn> >Absolute Maximum Ratings
2017-09-18T22:22:18 < Thorn> >Power supply voltage +3.5~+5.3V
2017-09-18T22:22:22 < Thorn> >Electrical Characteristics（TA=-20～+70℃，VDD=4.5～5.5V, ...)
2017-09-18T22:25:12 < zyp> wat
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2017-09-18T23:11:31 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAdqazixuRY musicvideotimes
2017-09-18T23:12:17 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFUPeXTAY_E making of
2017-09-18T23:20:09 < Cracki> lol no selfrespecting plasma cutter would stand still on a spot
2017-09-18T23:20:46 < Cracki> ok maybe, but the amount of sparks would vary
2017-09-18T23:21:32 < Cracki> I need a kuka
2017-09-18T23:22:14 < Fleck> cake?
2017-09-18T23:22:37 < kakimir> Cracki: that plasma cutter looks like CGI fake
2017-09-18T23:22:42 < Cracki> of course
2017-09-18T23:22:43 < kakimir> because soon it's a lazor
2017-09-18T23:22:53 < kakimir> and cut everything in pieces
2017-09-18T23:23:35 < Cracki> haha the drummer bot keeps the drumstick on the membrane
2017-09-18T23:24:18 < Cracki> the guitar bots I can believe
2017-09-18T23:26:23 < Cracki> hahah those accelerations by the end... I would like to see an arm of that size manage that
2017-09-18T23:33:04 < PaulFertser> Guitar is played by the guy himself, bot plays the bass guitar. BTW, are those of collaborative type or regular (require cage etc)?
2017-09-18T23:33:05 < kakimir> I wonder how they do transformation to CGI
2017-09-18T23:33:41 < Fleck> sound q. sucks too, at least yt video
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2017-09-18T23:36:16 < Fleck> still nice, good find kakimir! :)
2017-09-18T23:37:31 < kakimir> just pastin ircs
2017-09-18T23:39:14 < sync> get one Cracki, they are suprisingly cheap in the surplus market
2017-09-18T23:39:28 < Cracki> 1k bucks I saw
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2017-09-18T23:40:01 < sync> yeah
2017-09-18T23:40:08 < Cracki> some "hacker space" near me bought one. just the hardware. they have no idea how to get it going.
2017-09-18T23:40:27 < Cracki> no docs with it ;)
2017-09-18T23:41:25 < Cracki> I love wave drives. so flat and precise.
2017-09-18T23:41:38 < Cracki> and not cheap to come by
2017-09-18T23:42:08 < sync> you don't really need documentation
2017-09-18T23:42:35 < sync> but you need to bolt it to the ground
2017-09-18T23:44:15 < Cracki> that you do *g*
2017-09-18T23:44:30 < Cracki> they poked at it a bit, didn't find rotary encoders apparently
2017-09-18T23:45:15 < sync> iirc kuka have resolvers
2017-09-18T23:46:33 < Cracki> ah good stuff
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2017-09-18T23:55:24 < kakimir> if you don't know what to do with robot arm to reason buying one you can always build a mechanical pleasurer
2017-09-18T23:58:12 < Cracki> yeah then everyone can watch the electricity meter in sync with the arm's movements
2017-09-18T23:58:20 < ohsix> there's a guy in here that always opens a soda and it fizzes and spills everywhere
2017-09-18T23:58:22 < ohsix> every time
2017-09-18T23:58:37 < Cracki> how does he do that
2017-09-18T23:58:46 < Steffanx> Ohsix shakes the soda
2017-09-18T23:58:49 < ohsix> no idea
2017-09-18T23:58:56 < ohsix> i wish
2017-09-18T23:59:00 < ohsix> then there would be a reason
2017-09-18T23:59:07 < Cracki> with that kinda luck, i'd always leave the can standing still for half an hour
2017-09-18T23:59:13 < Steffanx> Better tell him to fuck off mr ohsix
2017-09-18T23:59:19 < ohsix> rn it's just like he never remembers and i feel guilty not reminding him
2017-09-18T23:59:30 < Cracki> I'd feel gleeful
2017-09-18T23:59:52 < Cracki> I'll bet someone shakes his sodas on purpose
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2017-09-19T00:03:02 < aandrew> ^^
2017-09-19T00:03:10 < aandrew> that, or maybe he has parkinsons
2017-09-19T00:08:06 < ohsix> they are sodas prone to fizzing
2017-09-19T00:08:25 < ohsix> and the first few times they were like 'you know these are bottled at sea level, we're at 3000ft'
2017-09-19T00:10:59 < aandrew> ohsix: if that was true everyone's would do that
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2017-09-19T00:23:37 < ohsix> heheh only 'work' i had to do today set on 'waiting for information from someone else'
2017-09-19T00:23:49 < ohsix> aandrew: ya they roll around in his car and shit too
2017-09-19T00:25:30 < ohsix> but if you have something explode in your face even twice, you do it carefully every time? no???/ the pepsi things i drink will fizz up if they've been newly put in the fridge for <3h or some specific number, but i open all of them carefully now; one spill and the huge cleanup/aggravation ... ohh he doesn't clean up
2017-09-19T00:25:58 < ohsix> not being able to leave it no doubt closed the loop for me
2017-09-19T00:29:38 < Steffanx> What is this? High school.
2017-09-19T00:29:40 < Steffanx> ?
2017-09-19T00:33:11 < ohsix> it's sugar free soda and has no dyes in it
2017-09-19T00:33:20 < ohsix> it's basically water as far as spills are concerned
2017-09-19T00:47:05 < jadew> I opened a link with some source code for a chess game and now I'm getting chess related recommendations in youtube
2017-09-19T00:47:26 < jadew> (opened it from IRC)
2017-09-19T00:48:36 < Cracki> canned fizzy water
2017-09-19T00:48:41 < Cracki> whyyy
2017-09-19T00:49:00 < Cracki> have people not heard of liter bottles
2017-09-19T00:50:49 < ohsix> jadew: chrome?
2017-09-19T00:50:57 < jadew> yeah
2017-09-19T00:51:16 < ohsix> jadew: major machine learning creepout yesterday, i uploaded a video of someone that had not great teeth, and then i got a bunch of dental cleaning/related ads
2017-09-19T00:51:34 < jadew> lol
2017-09-19T00:51:39 < ohsix> noticing made it creepy
2017-09-19T00:51:59 < ohsix> when you aren't in some narrow demo when there are actually hits on something you get blasted
2017-09-19T00:57:22 < Cracki> is this channel degenerate enough to tolerate an 'owo'?
2017-09-19T00:57:27 < ohsix> the minority report scenario where you essentially give up your identity is a lot less creepy
2017-09-19T00:58:51 < ohsix> this is google going HEY YOUR FRIEND HAS BAD TEETH, I AM A ROBOT IN JUDGEMENT of TEETH
2017-09-19T01:00:12 < Cracki> skynet shouldn't care about someone's teeth really
2017-09-19T01:00:41 < ohsix> think adversarial
2017-09-19T01:01:01 < ohsix> they could also sell things that further wreck teeth, affecting the overall health of a population
2017-09-19T01:02:43 < Cracki> the smartest thing would be population control
2017-09-19T01:03:16 < Cracki> any critter smart enough to be a threat gets their birth rate depressed
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2017-09-19T01:20:54 < ohsix> not devious enough, especially when you could just kill them all
2017-09-19T01:21:12 < ohsix> if john connors mom had bad teeth then skynet would have won
2017-09-19T01:26:27 < jadew> ok... I'm done watching chess videos
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2017-09-19T01:47:03 < Rob235> had to delete some of my theme/color stuff so I'm sticking with the default color right now. finally getting some stuff working, still need to modify it a lot though
2017-09-19T01:47:03 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-09-19T01:48:30 < Steffanx> Lol why.
2017-09-19T01:48:43 < Rob235> why what
2017-09-19T01:48:58 < Steffanx> Why the deleting
2017-09-19T01:49:38 < Rob235> I still have it in a file.  I just have some bug or something that was stopping things from working and I wanted to move on.  It wasn't much code for it so it will be easy to put back in when I find the bug
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2017-09-19T02:57:32 < jadew> great, I'm stressed out to the point that I can't sleep even tho I'm tired
2017-09-19T02:57:55 < jadew> all I do when I stay in bed is think about this stupid web component
2017-09-19T02:59:15 < jadew> this shit should better pay out
2017-09-19T03:03:30 < jadew> this must be the most complex thing I've ever done and I remember thinking that a couple of times before about other stuff
2017-09-19T03:04:25 < aandrew> hm?
2017-09-19T03:04:29 < aandrew> what are you going on about
2017-09-19T03:04:48 < jadew> I'm making a silly editor (WYSIWYG)
2017-09-19T03:04:58 < jadew> cuz I didn't like how the other ones behaved
2017-09-19T03:05:05 < Cracki> is anyone paying you
2017-09-19T03:05:05 < jadew> been doing this for almost a year
2017-09-19T03:05:11 < Cracki> has anyone paid you
2017-09-19T03:05:19 < jadew> for this? no
2017-09-19T03:05:27 < Cracki> then why stress out over it
2017-09-19T03:05:53 < jadew> because it's part of my main project, which is why I quit my job
2017-09-19T03:06:02 < jadew> and that one is on hold, because of this thing
2017-09-19T03:06:03 < Cracki> ah so you want people to pay you
2017-09-19T03:06:07 < jadew> I do
2017-09-19T03:08:00 < jadew> the good part is that its core is already better than what the other ones have (it does things better), but ffs... it's like I slay one head and two more pop up
2017-09-19T03:10:57 < jadew> I should rename to Project Hydra
2017-09-19T03:11:57 < aandrew> yikes
2017-09-19T03:12:12 < aandrew> what's your editor do that would make people want it?
2017-09-19T03:13:09 < jadew> I'm not going to sell the editor, but it's going to do things the others don't - they just handle some stuff poorly and some other stuff that I want to do, they don't do it at all
2017-09-19T03:13:58 < jadew> it's just going to be one of the hooks of my product
2017-09-19T03:16:39 < jadew> most of the complexity stems from the fact that I'm handling that stuff right
2017-09-19T03:20:25 < jadew> the silver lining is that if everything else fails, I can actually sell this thing
2017-09-19T03:20:37 < jadew> but that's not the plan
2017-09-19T03:21:30 < aandrew> hopefully
2017-09-19T03:21:39 < aandrew> it sounds like an incredibly tough market to be in though
2017-09-19T03:23:09 < jadew> the one I'm targetting is very competitive, but I know their products and they're shit
2017-09-19T03:23:28 < jadew> well, they're not, but I can do better
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2017-09-19T03:44:26 < dongs> what the fuck
2017-09-19T03:44:33 < dongs> is judew making another shitty javascript editor
2017-09-19T03:44:42 < jadew> *not shitty
2017-09-19T03:45:15 < jadew> but yeah
2017-09-19T03:45:22 < dongs> its a fucking text editor
2017-09-19T03:45:22 < jadew> I thought it would only take ~3 months
2017-09-19T03:45:27 < dongs> give me 10 reasons why its better than gvim
2017-09-19T03:45:33 < jadew> not text editor
2017-09-19T03:45:36 < jadew> it's a HTML editor
2017-09-19T03:45:51 < dongs> sorry to hear that
2017-09-19T03:45:59 < dongs> nobody edits htmlk in 2017
2017-09-19T03:46:03 < dongs> you're a bit late to teh party
2017-09-19T03:46:03 < englishman> here, use this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HoTMetaL
2017-09-19T03:46:18 < dongs> haha, i remember that
2017-09-19T03:46:24 < jadew> englishman, nice
2017-09-19T03:47:02 < englishman> this $1.5 genesys hub blows the shit out of $10 cypress hub
2017-09-19T03:48:55 < dongs> i could have todl you this
2017-09-19T03:49:09 < dongs> tho you should REALLY be using the $0.20 genesys hub
2017-09-19T03:49:20 < dongs> but some of those are dodgy depending on firmware version
2017-09-19T03:49:22 < englishman> they only have one with industrial temp rating
2017-09-19T03:49:45 < englishman> which is also the spendiest MTT
2017-09-19T03:49:56 < dongs> attn R2COM
2017-09-19T03:49:57 < englishman> cypress one is still STT
2017-09-19T03:50:07 < dongs> do you even have anything that requires mtt?
2017-09-19T03:50:11 < englishman> no
2017-09-19T03:50:14 < dongs> mtt is like a useless edge case between LS/FS stuff
2017-09-19T03:50:18 < englishman> well maybe
2017-09-19T03:50:18 < dongs> that is hardly relevant in 2017
2017-09-19T03:50:24 < englishman> since there are 2 FS and 2 HS devices
2017-09-19T03:50:27 < ohsix> heheh
2017-09-19T03:50:36 < ohsix> looking for a connector on digikey, all of them are made in town
2017-09-19T03:50:37 < ohsix> https://www.digikey.com/products/en/connectors-interconnects/barrel-power-connectors/435?k=&pkeyword=&pv1954=23&FV=70017d%2Cffe001b3%2C1140188%2C1140004%2C1140215&mnonly=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=500
2017-09-19T03:50:49 < ohsix> i can walk to get samples \m/
2017-09-19T03:52:29 < jadew> here's a little gift, for letting me rant
2017-09-19T03:52:30 < jadew> http://86.127.193.186/stuff/gift/merged.png
2017-09-19T03:52:38 < ohsix> jadew: what do you need the editor for? it's not like wix or anything is it?
2017-09-19T03:52:44 < jadew> http://86.127.193.186/stuff/gift/wbclean.bat
2017-09-19T03:53:16 < dongs> what
2017-09-19T03:53:18 < jadew> you'll need imagemagick for it to work
2017-09-19T03:53:32 < dongs> who would need something like this
2017-09-19T03:53:34 < jadew> the picture of the whiteboard is a crop from an almost full picture
2017-09-19T03:53:47 < jadew> dongs, you don't save your whiteboards?
2017-09-19T03:53:52 < dongs> .. what
2017-09-19T03:54:02 < dongs> the fuck is a whiteboard
2017-09-19T03:54:04 < ohsix> dongs doesn't work with anyone
2017-09-19T03:54:05 < jadew> haha
2017-09-19T03:54:20 < ohsix> or brain plus storm
2017-09-19T03:55:56 < dongs> fucking sourcetree
2017-09-19T03:56:10 < dongs> why are tehy defaulting to non-split view
2017-09-19T03:56:18 < dongs> for staging
2017-09-19T03:56:28 < dongs> on another machine some faggot updated to altest version instead of 1.9
2017-09-19T03:56:37 < dongs> and even i change it to split staging, next time it goes back to combinerd
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2017-09-19T05:41:52 < jadew> ohsix, sorry, didn't answer your question, no it's not like wix, it's like CKEditor or TinyMCE
2017-09-19T05:42:26 < dongs> highly autistic
2017-09-19T05:42:32 < jadew> I know
2017-09-19T05:43:29 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ8HVWAOTEk
2017-09-19T05:45:20 < jadew> my idea is not original
2017-09-19T05:45:32 < jadew> nor new
2017-09-19T05:45:45 < jadew> again, the editor is not the product
2017-09-19T05:45:53 < jadew> it's just a component
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2017-09-19T06:51:58 < upgrdman> hello boys and girls. im back.
2017-09-19T06:55:11 < dongs> upgrdman: lol. did you get arrested in chian
2017-09-19T06:55:15 < upgrdman> lol no
2017-09-19T06:55:17 < upgrdman> but
2017-09-19T06:55:35 < upgrdman> i decided to try to be more human and like do stuff IRL for this most recent trip
2017-09-19T06:56:03 < upgrdman> nothing really noteworthy, but better than idling in IRC like i ~always do
2017-09-19T06:56:13 < dongs> how many chinagirls did you smash
2017-09-19T06:56:24 < upgrdman> two
2017-09-19T06:57:08 < dongs> upgrdman: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9c4_1505727932 found y ou
2017-09-19T06:58:08 < upgrdman> damns that pretty fucked up
2017-09-19T06:58:29 < upgrdman> were those women in restraints?
2017-09-19T06:58:37 < upgrdman> they say the guy broke free of his
2017-09-19T07:02:47 < upgrdman> typical black woman  https://i.redd.it/bfisl500wolz.gif
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2017-09-19T07:06:16 < Thorn> do the Chinese clone & sell buffered st-links?
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2017-09-19T07:07:30 < Thorn> looking at aliexpress listings and people say they're not buffered
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2017-09-19T07:10:45 < englishman> ?
2017-09-19T07:12:34 < Thorn> I need an st-link that supports target voltages other than 3.3v
2017-09-19T07:14:05 < englishman> look no further
2017-09-19T07:14:06 < englishman> https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/stmicroelectronics/ST-LINK-V2/497-10484-ND/2214535
2017-09-19T07:14:14 < englishman> 1,536 Can ship immediately
2017-09-19T07:14:30 < Thorn> >$30.56
2017-09-19T07:14:43 < dongs> yes?
2017-09-19T07:14:49 < englishman> great price right?
2017-09-19T07:15:07 < englishman> compared to Atmel ICE
2017-09-19T07:15:22 < dongs> cheaper than buffered jewlink
2017-09-19T07:15:34 < englishman> Thorn-specific link https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=497-10484-ND
2017-09-19T07:15:38 < jadew> for me the price is ERROR
2017-09-19T07:15:57 < dongs> cuz youre in jew location
2017-09-19T07:16:17 < englishman> you can even get https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/olimex-ltd/ARM-JTAG-20-10/1188-1016-ND/3471401
2017-09-19T07:16:18 < jadew> works on .com
2017-09-19T07:16:19 < englishman> in same order
2017-09-19T07:17:00 < dongs> i prefer my pokemon-themed one
2017-09-19T07:17:56 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/zBDaWYL.jpg
2017-09-19T07:18:44 < jadew> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=71f_1505609402
2017-09-19T07:18:51 < englishman> lunix filth
2017-09-19T07:18:55 < englishman> get the windows version https://i.imgur.com/GKRR3Rj.jpg
2017-09-19T07:19:12 < dongs> ahaha
2017-09-19T07:19:25 < aandrew> wha's with pikachu
2017-09-19T07:19:36 < dongs> why the fuck not
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2017-09-19T08:46:53 < ohsix> the kid in the lab today that called a rubix cube a fidget cube was really impressed by my small font
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2017-09-19T08:47:14 < ohsix> and saw irc and said 'that looks like a complex program' before i let him look closer hehe
2017-09-19T08:48:04 < jpa-> "i have this complex program that delivers crappy chats to my screen"
2017-09-19T08:48:27 < ohsix> dongs was in the visible buffer but i jumped to the server messages window
2017-09-19T08:49:31 < ohsix> it is an interesting statement tho, kids aren't used to using computers, they're mostly exposed to smartphones and stuff that has pretty large text & is designed for it
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2017-09-19T08:50:25 < dongs> jpa, easy fix
2017-09-19T08:50:28 < dongs> type ignore ohsix
2017-09-19T08:50:37 < dongs> crappy chats stop !
2017-09-19T08:50:51 < jpa-> but it's the only thing this program can do
2017-09-19T08:50:53 < ohsix> disengage crappy chats
2017-09-19T08:51:03 < jpa-> it's open sores so i can't really expect any better, though
2017-09-19T08:51:28 < ohsix> the kid was real sharp tho, was there to sign up for some classes coming up
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2017-09-19T08:53:01 < ohsix> not exposed to a bunch of horrible kids anymore, but lots of horrible adults, and this kid won't be one if he keeps it up
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2017-09-19T08:54:11 < ohsix> http://web.archive.org/web/19990503092329/http://www.ozemail.com.au:80/~dljones/images/eecalc01.gif
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2017-09-19T09:08:14 < Thorn> >SATURATION CURRENT (A) MAX. (TYP.) 2.85 (3.60)
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2017-09-19T09:08:26 < Thorn> TYP. > MAX. ?
2017-09-19T09:09:55 < ohsix> typo? 3.85 maybe? url to datasheet
2017-09-19T09:10:26 < Thorn> http://products.sumida.com/products/pdf/CDRH104R.pdf
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2017-09-19T09:10:56 < Thorn> then there's a typo in every row
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2017-09-19T09:15:48 < ohsix> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/09/open-letter-w3c-director-ceo-team-and-membership eff leaving w3c over drm
2017-09-19T09:16:18 < Thorn> probably min. (typ.)
2017-09-19T09:17:28 < ohsix> oh heh, inductor
2017-09-19T09:17:33 < ohsix> yea, maybe
2017-09-19T09:17:42 < ohsix> but it's also a saturation spec
2017-09-19T09:21:23 < ohsix> https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/gas-pump-skimmers
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2017-09-19T09:28:41 < dongs> typ/max swaped
2017-09-19T09:28:43 < dongs> typical japs
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2017-09-19T09:53:10 < gnom> .11
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2017-09-19T10:10:43 < ohsix> ReadError: watched vice principals?
2017-09-19T10:11:19 < ohsix> they went so hard on crazy in the first season, optimistic but it is going to be hard
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2017-09-19T10:18:18 < gnom> hi everybody, help a template for the ili9341 module
2017-09-19T10:18:21 < gnom> http://static.sunrom.com/p/551/551_800.jpg
2017-09-19T10:18:45 < gnom> paralel 16 bit
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2017-09-19T10:19:26 < gnom> I long suffer with him
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2017-09-19T10:23:05 < gnom> http://gnome.xonotic.in.ua/dv/stm32-ILI9341-16b-cube/
2017-09-19T10:25:30 < gnom> stm32any
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2017-09-19T10:28:46 < gnom> https://github.com/Alex2269/stm32-ILI9341-16b-cube
2017-09-19T10:29:26 < ohsix> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKEd8vmVAAYv8X1.jpg:large
2017-09-19T10:29:44 < ohsix> harbor freight meter hooked up to 12v on 200 ohm range, and not turned on
2017-09-19T10:39:16 < englishman> hello welcome
2017-09-19T10:39:58 < gnom> :)
2017-09-19T10:40:24 < dongs> gnom: https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=4gwAFDoSIsU
2017-09-19T10:40:26 < dongs> err
2017-09-19T10:40:36 < dongs> gnom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gwAFDoSIsU you mean like this
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2017-09-19T10:41:04 < gnom> oh nice
2017-09-19T10:41:06 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smz2cU3FfFk or this
2017-09-19T10:51:31 < ohsix> nobody else has a pile of t hese harbor freight meters? :p
2017-09-19T10:54:14 < Steffanx> Irc time is up ohsix
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2017-09-19T10:55:08 < ohsix> i thought i left it on overnight cuz of the battery symbol
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2017-09-19T11:15:21 < Steffanx> Is that supposed to make sense ohsix ?
2017-09-19T11:15:29 < dongs> it never does
2017-09-19T11:16:20 < Steffanx> Oh it wasnt a reply, was a continuation of the monologue
2017-09-19T11:16:30 < Steffanx> I guess, dongs
2017-09-19T11:16:47 < ohsix> eh?
2017-09-19T11:17:12 < ohsix> click on the image and calm down
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2017-09-19T11:18:17 < gnom> yes I actually asked not video
2017-09-19T11:18:47 < gnom> but for video thanks
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2017-09-19T11:20:35 < invzim> any gotchas with STM32F072CBT6?  I got decoupling on all supply pins, 1k pulldown on boot0 and decoupling on NRST pin
2017-09-19T11:21:47 < ohsix> it drinks too much on thanksgiving
2017-09-19T11:22:01 < dongs> whats it not doing?
2017-09-19T11:22:15 < invzim> usb and serial@115200
2017-09-19T11:22:34 < invzim> so I presume I'll need an external osc to get preciese serial
2017-09-19T11:22:42 < emeryth> no
2017-09-19T11:22:48 < dongs> invzim: definitely not
2017-09-19T11:23:02 < dongs> ive done 250kbaud serial off intrc just fine
2017-09-19T11:23:15 < invzim> *snip*
2017-09-19T11:23:18 < invzim> great :)
2017-09-19T11:24:02 < invzim> drop the osc pins to gnd?
2017-09-19T11:24:11 < dongs> nope
2017-09-19T11:24:13 < dongs> just use them for wahtever
2017-09-19T11:24:17 < dongs> they're normal GPIO
2017-09-19T11:24:22 < dongs> (well, with low drive capability
2017-09-19T11:25:09 < invzim> mmm, thought that was just the OSC32 pins
2017-09-19T11:25:46 < invzim> no, you're right
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2017-09-19T11:26:25 < dongs> no, they're GPIOF or whatever.
2017-09-19T11:26:51 < invzim> PF0/PF1
2017-09-19T11:27:03 < Steffanx> The internal rc is acurate enough under all conditions?
2017-09-19T11:27:52 < ohsix> no
2017-09-19T11:28:14 < invzim> datasheet syas it tunes itself via usb
2017-09-19T11:28:22 < invzim> says
2017-09-19T11:28:38 < invzim> or it doesn't but, I read it somewhere
2017-09-19T11:28:49 < Steffanx> Yes and usb is always connected, if so then i wouldnt bother indeed
2017-09-19T11:29:23 < invzim> "Internal 48 MHz oscillator with automatic trimming based on ext. synchronization"
2017-09-19T11:29:51 < dongs> serial is never gonna be a problem on intrc
2017-09-19T11:30:12 < dongs> like i said worked fine @ 250k and i know someone who did 1mbit with that on f303 intrc
2017-09-19T11:31:34 < Steffanx> Works fine vs always works fine.... Aging, temperature changes.. ?
2017-09-19T11:32:38 < emeryth> I'm running 1mbps CAN on intrc without problems for some time now
2017-09-19T11:33:10 < ohsix> it isn't laser trimmed or anything
2017-09-19T11:33:28 < ohsix> to know for sure you need to look at their worst case jnk, if they even specify it
2017-09-19T11:33:29 < zyp> emeryth, CAN is less sensitive than UART since it does bit stuffing
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2017-09-19T11:35:24 < dongs> what the fuck happened to gfycat
2017-09-19T11:35:48 < dongs> it turned absolutely homosexual, i cant even figrue out how to get original .mp4 from it
2017-09-19T11:37:31 < Tectu> stop that rage
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2017-09-19T11:42:04 < ohsix> youtube-dl works fine
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2017-09-19T11:43:09 < ohsix> it's right in the playlist too <source type="video/mp4" class="mobile-mp4-source" src="https://thumbs.gfycat.com/FlamboyantBriefBetafish-mobile.mp4">
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2017-09-19T11:44:08 < Steffanx> Hi Tectu
2017-09-19T11:44:30 < Tectu> hi
2017-09-19T11:44:37 < Steffanx> Welcome. Where did you burry upgrdman?
2017-09-19T11:44:52 < Tectu> didn´t touch him
2017-09-19T11:50:00 < Steffanx> '
2017-09-19T11:51:03 < ohsix> are there test clips for wide tssop flash/sram/ddr junk or do people not bother
2017-09-19T11:51:13 < ohsix> found a new class of thing to buy on ali
2017-09-19T12:03:14 < dongs> faggot euro apostrophe
2017-09-19T12:16:43 < dongs> shenzhen PROS electronics co ltd
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2017-09-19T12:23:13 < Laurenceb_> sup
2017-09-19T12:23:33 < Laurenceb_> https://archive.fo/vlw4K
2017-09-19T12:23:47 < Laurenceb_> I'm a gunna get b& from voting too
2017-09-19T12:33:10 < tomeaton17> Ok so now previously working code is no longer working on the bluepill... I2C is failing to initialise for some reason
2017-09-19T12:34:30 < Laurenceb_> u need to get redpilled
2017-09-19T12:34:42 < Laurenceb_> in bluepill a bluetooth device?
2017-09-19T12:34:45 < tomeaton17> So when I upload code to board I2C will fail to initialise, and then when I press reset button it starts the sda line spasm attack
2017-09-19T12:35:11 < tomeaton17> no its the standard cheap chinese stm32f1 breakout board
2017-09-19T12:40:35 < Steffanx> Cloned f103?
2017-09-19T12:40:55 < Steffanx> Or a gd32 secretly
2017-09-19T12:41:28 < emeryth> gd32 would be an upgrade
2017-09-19T12:50:45 < qyx> f1 with i2c?
2017-09-19T12:51:01 < qyx> looks like fun
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2017-09-19T12:59:42 < Thorn> can you use an inductor characterized @ 100kHz @ 0.5...1MHz?
2017-09-19T13:03:35 < tomeaton17> Yeah its a f103
2017-09-19T13:03:44 < tomeaton17> I must have damaged the chip somehow
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2017-09-19T13:40:44 < Steffanx> Yay chinese ebayer. Seller wrapped some e-ink display so tighlty in foil that it cracked in a corner
2017-09-19T13:44:16 < dfgg> "plz no dispute only 5 star"
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2017-09-19T14:23:18 < stvn> jesus christ
2017-09-19T14:24:44 < stvn> just chucked an 8 core xeon and 64gb ram into a mac
2017-09-19T14:25:13 < Laurenceb> he's also the son of god
2017-09-19T14:27:44 < stvn> i keep trying to tell this guy maybe he should read the system requirements
2017-09-19T14:28:31 < sync> why not stvn?
2017-09-19T14:28:36 < sync> sounds like an acceptable setup
2017-09-19T14:29:46 < stvn> yeah true
2017-09-19T14:31:15 < stvn> ripping of macfags
2017-09-19T14:33:09 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJju7PUXcAENUuA.png
2017-09-19T14:33:13 < Laurenceb> attn stvn
2017-09-19T14:34:04 < stvn> yo
2017-09-19T14:34:27 < stvn> 1488
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2017-09-19T14:36:47 < Laurenceb> I'm so confused
2017-09-19T14:36:49 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_and_Grichka_Bogdanoff
2017-09-19T14:36:57 < Laurenceb> apparently this is not just a meme
2017-09-19T14:38:06 < stvn> niggerpedia
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2017-09-19T14:41:36 < stvn> jade
2017-09-19T14:41:50 < jadew> sup?
2017-09-19T14:41:55 < Laurenceb> whatever the orientation, the plane of oscillation of Foucault's pendulum is necessarily aligned with the initial singularity marking the origin of physical space.
2017-09-19T14:42:00 < Laurenceb> irl lolling
2017-09-19T14:42:13 < stvn> pcbs
2017-09-19T14:42:15 < stvn> and Laurenceb
2017-09-19T14:42:28 < Laurenceb> jadew is a grrrl called jade?
2017-09-19T14:42:36 < jadew> no
2017-09-19T14:42:41 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-09-19T14:42:48 < jadew> is a dude with a name you can't pronounce
2017-09-19T14:42:52 < Laurenceb> I refuse to believe there is a single grrrl on irc
2017-09-19T14:43:14 < Laurenceb> well apart from sector
2017-09-19T14:43:49 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGN-3mlWcAA-jUs.jpg
2017-09-19T14:46:02 < jadew> I've met a few chick on IRC before
2017-09-19T14:46:06 < stvn> harpoon
2017-09-19T14:46:14 < jadew> lol stvn
2017-09-19T14:46:20 < Laurenceb> I wonder if she would roll
2017-09-19T14:46:36 < stvn> lol
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2017-09-19T14:47:06 < jadew> my dad used to have a saying: "easier to jump over than walk around"
2017-09-19T14:47:12 < stvn> welcopme Peter_M
2017-09-19T14:47:20 < jadew> well, he still does
2017-09-19T14:48:16 < tomeaton17> IRC is better than tinder
2017-09-19T14:48:27 < stvn> lol;
2017-09-19T14:48:32 < Laurenceb> wtf lol
2017-09-19T14:48:41 < Laurenceb> well less likely to get aids I guess
2017-09-19T14:49:00 < jadew> I did hook up with a couple of chicks from IRC
2017-09-19T14:49:03 < Laurenceb> tinder is fun, you can go out on a Friday night and spot the grrrls from tinder
2017-09-19T14:49:21 < jadew> 14-17 years ago
2017-09-19T14:49:24 < Laurenceb> usually with obnoxious autists
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2017-09-19T14:49:53 < jadew> if I wasn't married, I'd be all over that
2017-09-19T14:50:20 < Laurenceb> jadew confirmed as obnoxious autist
2017-09-19T14:50:27 < jadew> heh
2017-09-19T14:50:39 < tomeaton17> Yes I agree with that Laurenceb and where I live all of the uni students have just come back
2017-09-19T14:50:45 < tomeaton17> Fresh meat has arrived
2017-09-19T14:52:07 < jadew> freshmeat - was that a porn site or one for opensource stuff?
2017-09-19T14:52:21 < dongs> i remember it got renamed tro something
2017-09-19T14:52:23 < dongs> freecode?
2017-09-19T14:52:26 < dongs> right before it died
2017-09-19T14:53:02 < jadew> do they have porn now?
2017-09-19T14:53:07 < dongs> not sure
2017-09-19T14:53:12 < dongs> freshmeat.net
2017-09-19T14:53:18 < dongs> looks like domain still there
2017-09-19T14:53:22 < dongs> pointed to dead shit
2017-09-19T14:53:24 < stvn> freeniggers
2017-09-19T14:53:25 < jadew> yeah
2017-09-19T14:53:31 < stvn> yeay
2017-09-19T14:53:31 < dongs> just shut it down
2017-09-19T14:53:34 < dongs> and sell domain to o6
2017-09-19T14:53:37 < dongs> fill it with autism
2017-09-19T14:53:38 < tomeaton17> is that sfw?
2017-09-19T14:53:42 < stvn> oyvey
2017-09-19T14:54:05 < dongs> its pretty unsafe, it exposes you to lunix software
2017-09-19T14:54:13 < dongs> you might catch aids
2017-09-19T14:54:29 < tomeaton17> whats up with the lunix circlejerk
2017-09-19T14:54:48 < dongs> we're all waiting for year of lunix on desktop
2017-09-19T14:54:52 < stvn> lol
2017-09-19T14:54:55 < dongs> for the last 17 years
2017-09-19T14:54:59 < stvn> 22
2017-09-19T14:55:23 < jadew> freecode.com/about
2017-09-19T14:55:25 < dongs> I remember I ran lunix desktop on supermicro P6DLS
2017-09-19T14:55:32 < dongs> in 1998
2017-09-19T14:55:38 < dongs> it was jsut as useless as it is today
2017-09-19T14:55:43 < stvn> lol
2017-09-19T14:55:59 < dongs> i eventually gave up and just loaded win98se on it
2017-09-19T14:56:00 < jadew> yeah, I have similar experience with it
2017-09-19T14:56:03 < dongs> that shit was actually usable
2017-09-19T14:56:14 < dongs> AND i could do multimonitor stuff
2017-09-19T14:56:17 < dongs> with any random pci/agp card
2017-09-19T14:56:22 < dongs> without having to pay $$$ for some accelx shit
2017-09-19T14:56:36 < dongs> lunix shit supported like 2 cards, barely
2017-09-19T14:57:38 < stvn> even my friends 8 core xeon 64gb mac pro (equiv of a 386 with 2mb ram) can do more
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2017-09-19T14:58:37 < tomeaton17> Why does windows not use utc time
2017-09-19T14:58:43 < tomeaton17> They have to be different
2017-09-19T14:58:47 < dongs> it uses wtc time
2017-09-19T14:58:51 < stvn> something to do with the jews
2017-09-19T14:58:52 < dongs> so its always 9/11
2017-09-19T14:59:05 < tomeaton17> Yeah it fucks up when I boot from dual boot
2017-09-19T14:59:11 < dongs> sorry to hear that
2017-09-19T14:59:15 < BrainDamage> it started using localtime and to minimize distruptions during upgrades it stuck with it
2017-09-19T14:59:19 < dongs> may i direct you towards "virtualbox"?
2017-09-19T14:59:25 < dongs> or maybe you can purchase vmware workstation
2017-09-19T14:59:31 < dongs> thats where lunix belongs
2017-09-19T14:59:36 < tomeaton17> may I direct you towards using the full power of my computer
2017-09-19T14:59:38 < stvn> better still buy a pc
2017-09-19T14:59:38 < dongs> so you can suspend it
2017-09-19T14:59:44 < dongs> cuz thats the onyl way power management in lunix works
2017-09-19T14:59:55 < dongs> "full power" with linux? ahahahahhahahahahahahaha
2017-09-19T14:59:56 < jadew> I'm very happy with hyper-v
2017-09-19T14:59:57 < dongs> NICE JOKE BRO
2017-09-19T15:00:08 < jadew> it exposes a nice API in powershell
2017-09-19T15:00:10 < dongs> does it even support half of your hardware
2017-09-19T15:00:18 < stvn> LFN was a good start
2017-09-19T15:00:29 < jadew> so you can do a lot of nice stuff with a batch file
2017-09-19T15:00:30 < tomeaton17> by full power I mean using all of my hardware and never turning it off when I am not using it and fucking the battery
2017-09-19T15:00:37 < invzim> wtf is USB_NOE pin on PA13?
2017-09-19T15:00:44 < dongs> invzim: usb clock output
2017-09-19T15:00:50 < dongs> each frame or somethin
2017-09-19T15:00:53 < dongs> for sync stuff.
2017-09-19T15:00:55 < dongs> you dont need it
2017-09-19T15:01:08 < tomeaton17> The only hardware it doesn't support is my fingerprint sensor actually
2017-09-19T15:01:23 < stvn> said no windows user in history
2017-09-19T15:01:35 < invzim> cube gives me something red unless I enable it
2017-09-19T15:01:41 < dongs> red what?
2017-09-19T15:01:43 < invzim> I'll poke a little more
2017-09-19T15:01:46 < dongs> you dont need to enable it for anything
2017-09-19T15:02:25 < invzim> conflict with SWDIO - hopefully it means that only one can be enabled at the same time
2017-09-19T15:02:46 < dongs> swdio is default
2017-09-19T15:02:51 < dongs> unless y ou override it.
2017-09-19T15:02:53 < invzim> 'usb partly disabled'
2017-09-19T15:03:28 < tomeaton17> Its stupid though using local time on a hardware clock
2017-09-19T15:03:32 < dongs> i have a F042 design with working USB and swdio, and PA13 is definitely NOT NOE.
2017-09-19T15:03:41 < Laurenceb> lul
2017-09-19T15:03:43 < dongs> also cube
2017-09-19T15:03:48 < Laurenceb> good job I dont need NOE
2017-09-19T15:03:59 < dongs> you just need NOU
2017-09-19T15:04:01 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/QnodkmU most accurate image evar
2017-09-19T15:04:27 < stvn>  m
2017-09-19T15:04:36 < dongs> typical shitpost
2017-09-19T15:05:19 < BrainDamage> tomeaton17: you should've explained microsoft this 20 years ago, everything after is legacy compatibility
2017-09-19T15:05:21 < karlp> local time should just always equal utc. no need for timezones, just drop the idea that the numbers 9 and 5 have anything particular meaningful
2017-09-19T15:05:30 < invzim> prelim, but crystal-less stuff.. source can be HSI_RC or HSI48_RC - which one is the autotuned thingie?
2017-09-19T15:05:41 < dongs> 48
2017-09-19T15:05:53 < Laurenceb> I dunno like I justr use cube
2017-09-19T15:05:57 < Laurenceb> dude weed lmao
2017-09-19T15:06:08 < Laurenceb> but yeah its HSI48
2017-09-19T15:06:33 < stvn> neutral
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2017-09-19T15:07:00 < invzim> hopefully this little project will go a little faster than my rgb upscaler :)
2017-09-19T15:07:00 < jadew> karlp, but they do, it's when I go to bed and when I wake up
2017-09-19T15:07:03 < Laurenceb> what a guy
2017-09-19T15:07:16 < dongs> bedtime
2017-09-19T15:07:23 < jadew> night
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2017-09-19T15:07:34 < tomeaton17> BrainDamage: Unfortunately I wasnt around then or I would have
2017-09-19T15:08:53 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSN7udPCyW8
2017-09-19T15:09:26 < tomeaton17> Right tried changing the registery time
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2017-09-19T15:50:08 < Laurenceb> https://vid.me/9QGQI
2017-09-19T15:50:20 < Laurenceb> the literal clip of death
2017-09-19T16:06:22 < sync> nobody ded tho
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2017-09-19T16:15:14 < Rob235> gooooood morning
2017-09-19T16:17:04 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgtc.com/WIRf04h.jpg
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2017-09-19T17:00:08 < Rob235> innerHTML replaces whats in there already right?
2017-09-19T17:00:59 < jadew> Rob235, yes
2017-09-19T17:01:08 < Rob235> thx
2017-09-19T17:01:12 < jadew> np
2017-09-19T17:02:00 < englishman> piksi swift is proving to be inferior to neo-m8 in field testing
2017-09-19T17:02:50 < Steffanx> superior reset lime
2017-09-19T17:02:55 < Steffanx> line
2017-09-19T17:05:17 < Steffanx> did they resolve that issue englishman?
2017-09-19T17:05:21 < Steffanx> in some new revision
2017-09-19T17:05:21 < englishman> of course not
2017-09-19T17:06:02 < Steffanx> damn it, me and my faith in humanity
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2017-09-19T17:18:25 < englishman> signal receive power is consistently lower, lock time is consistently higher, rtk precision is much lower
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2017-09-19T18:02:36 < Steffanx> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/AAMAAOSwez5ZwSEs/s-l1600.jpg not sure if it matters, but not going to find out.. crack in e-ink screen goes trough the control signals :(
2017-09-19T18:03:38 < englishman> :'(
2017-09-19T18:08:00 < PaulFertser> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/troll#Verb "7. To stroll about in order to find a sexual partner, to cruise (originally homosexual slang)."
2017-09-19T18:08:09 < Steffanx> funny that the uploaded ebay images are publicly accessible
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2017-09-19T18:10:18 < Steffanx> PaulFertser, we already know Laurenceb wants to mate with random ##stm32 guys.
2017-09-19T18:10:39 < aandrew> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/make_big_bucks_for_a_crappy_thing
2017-09-19T18:11:17 < Steffanx> wut aandrew?
2017-09-19T18:14:40 < kakimir> removed
2017-09-19T18:14:49 < Steffanx> yeah, no crappy things on indiegogo
2017-09-19T18:14:52 < kakimir> aandrew tried to make moneyz and failed
2017-09-19T18:27:18 < tpw_rules> ok my linker cmd is "arm-none-eabi-gcc -mcpu=cortex-m0plus -mthumb -mfloat-abi=soft -specs=nosys.specs -specs=nano.specs -u _printf_float -Wl,-Map=output.map -Wl,--gc-sections -lm -o "system_demo.elf" @"objects.list"  "
2017-09-19T18:27:24 < tpw_rules> and i'm getting 'undefined reference to log/pow"
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2017-09-19T18:27:31 < tpw_rules> what am i missing
2017-09-19T18:27:43 < tpw_rules> during the linker step. #include <math.h> is in file
2017-09-19T18:29:46 < tpw_rules> -lm is there
2017-09-19T18:30:54 < aandrew> tpw_rules: I'm suspecting that -lm isn't being passed to the linker
2017-09-19T18:31:02 < aandrew> perhaps -Wl,--gc-sections -Wl,-lm or someshit
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2017-09-19T18:31:52 < tpw_rules> oh yeah it's just systemworkbench being fucky
2017-09-19T18:32:01 < tpw_rules> it needs to go after @"objects.list"
2017-09-19T18:32:14 < tpw_rules> which it does if i add it explicitly. but not if i check the "use c math" checkbox
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2017-09-19T18:32:26 < tpw_rules> computers
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2017-09-19T18:36:17 < Rob235> bitches need stitches
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2017-09-19T18:46:19 < Thorn> iirc it's a general rule for gcc. if foo.o needs -lbar then foo.o should come first on the command line
2017-09-19T18:50:27 < Lux> englishman: are you talking about the ublox m8p ?
2017-09-19T18:52:35 < englishman> not even, m8t + paid ntrip logging
2017-09-19T18:56:41 < Lux> i guess it's hard to beat decades of swiss engineering :)
2017-09-19T18:56:48 < englishman> :D
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2017-09-19T18:57:40 < Lux> i'd like to try those m8p, looks like it should be really easy to use and not too expensive
2017-09-19T18:58:04 < englishman> certainly cheaper than pixi
2017-09-19T18:59:30 < englishman> https://www.u-blox.com/en/product/c94-m8p
2017-09-19T18:59:32 < englishman> all you need
2017-09-19T18:59:40 < englishman> includes uhf for $100 less than piksi
2017-09-19T18:59:40 < englishman> r
2017-09-19T18:59:41 < englishman> e
2017-09-19T18:59:42 < englishman> k
2017-09-19T18:59:42 < englishman> t
2017-09-19T18:59:51 < englishman> and i bet it has a pullup on reset line
2017-09-19T19:00:01 < Lux> that reminds me... i actually talked to a guy who tried one of the first pixies and he said it was shit
2017-09-19T19:00:09 < Lux> like >30mins to get a fix etc
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2017-09-19T19:00:13 < englishman> nice
2017-09-19T19:00:19 < englishman> kickstarter strikes again
2017-09-19T19:01:02 < Lux> yeah seems like it
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2017-09-19T19:01:33 < englishman> ublox even gives schematics
2017-09-19T19:02:15 < Lux> their support is pretty good
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2017-09-19T19:03:05 < Lux> they also have lots of documents on gps antenna design etc
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2017-09-19T19:03:45 < englishman> 1.26 billion CHF market cap
2017-09-19T19:03:47 < englishman> they are no joke
2017-09-19T19:04:24 < englishman> oh shit
2017-09-19T19:04:30 < englishman> the application kit is for TWO boards
2017-09-19T19:04:35 < englishman> so its even less than half the price of piksi
2017-09-19T19:05:10 < englishman> with UHF and gps antennas with groundplanes
2017-09-19T19:05:11 < englishman> damn
2017-09-19T19:10:22 < Thorn> shit I hate these HALs and SDKs. no way to know from docs alone what state the hardware is going to be in after reset
2017-09-19T19:10:37 < Thorn> >nordick
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2017-09-19T19:11:30 < Steffanx> The HAL was easy to use, but finding what you need and how to use it sucked arse is my experience
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2017-09-19T19:12:31 < englishman> .chm
2017-09-19T19:12:33 < englishman> its all there
2017-09-19T19:12:49 < Steffanx> fuck .chm
2017-09-19T19:12:52 < englishman> nordick has nice helpfile too, if their server isnt down
2017-09-19T19:12:59 < englishman> not going to get far with that attitude
2017-09-19T19:13:23 < Steffanx> and sure it might be there, but .. while i was looking for things in their docs (online) you went into circular mode very easy.
2017-09-19T19:13:33 < aandrew> 80% of my API stuff is grep -ril <shit> /path/to/sdk/nrf5_12.2.0
2017-09-19T19:17:39 < Steffanx> so what did we miss on indigogo mr aandrew?
2017-09-19T19:17:42 < Thorn> why 12.2.0
2017-09-19T19:17:51 < Thorn> there is 12.3.0 and even 14
2017-09-19T19:18:03 < aandrew> nothing, it is not a real link, it's just what any crowdsource really is
2017-09-19T19:18:08 < aandrew> Thorn: it's just what I'm using
2017-09-19T19:18:14 < aandrew> nothing specific for 12.2
2017-09-19T19:19:15 < Steffanx> 14 isnt for nrf51 is it?
2017-09-19T19:19:33 < Thorn> 12.3.0 is the last one that includes s130
2017-09-19T19:19:42 < Thorn> no 51 softdevices in later sdks
2017-09-19T19:19:47 < Thorn> wtf does that mean
2017-09-19T19:20:12 < Steffanx> idk, you wrote that
2017-09-19T19:21:11 < Thorn> I was referring to >no 51 softdevices in later sdks
2017-09-19T19:21:25 < Thorn> it's all "nRF5 SDK" and is supposed to support both 51 and 52
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2017-09-19T19:22:48 < Thorn> but it's pretty hard to support 51 if you do not include any softdevices for it
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2017-09-19T19:26:23 < Thorn> >#define NRF_LOG_DEFAULT_BACKENDS_INIT() nrf_log_default_backends_init()
2017-09-19T19:26:39 < Thorn> coding diarrhea
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2017-09-19T20:39:23 < kakimir> can you buy legit looking or even totally legit usb devices and when you plug it in first or at random time device would install rootkit to the machine?
2017-09-19T20:39:49 < kakimir> I mean is there cases such would have happend
2017-09-19T20:39:57 < zyp> idk about usb devices, but sony has some cds for you
2017-09-19T20:41:35 < kakimir> I know
2017-09-19T20:41:41 < kakimir> I even had such record once
2017-09-19T20:41:49 < kakimir> that had confirmed rootkit
2017-09-19T20:45:11 < zyp> put it in a usb cd player, target achieved? :p
2017-09-19T20:46:50 < kakimir> usb devices are disturbing because they can actually turn into any device at any point
2017-09-19T20:47:59 < BrainDamage> as opposed to say, thunderbolt, which has dma access to the whole system?
2017-09-19T20:48:10 < kakimir> oh
2017-09-19T20:48:22 < kakimir> that's disturbing
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2017-09-19T21:57:17 < aandrew> USB devices, no. USB devices on operating systems that are stupid (i.e. windows)? yes.
2017-09-19T21:57:42 < aandrew> thunderbolt is completely different. Thunderbolt is basically an external PCIe bus, and PCIe has *no* security
2017-09-19T21:58:24 < englishman> can confirm, my usb key turned into a coffeepot
2017-09-19T21:58:28 < BrainDamage> yup, but pcie is not meant for 'external devices'
2017-09-19T21:59:23 < aandrew> now it's theoretically possible to take advantage of a USB stack bug and have a USB device gain access to a computer by exploiting some flaw in the enumeration process, but that'd be highly system dependent
2017-09-19T21:59:40 < aandrew> and it's not possible to directly query the host about who it is and what version of software it's running during enumeration
2017-09-19T22:00:02 < qyx> there were such issues in the past iirc
2017-09-19T22:00:05 < aandrew> you could likely take a good guess by (as the enumerated device) looking at HOW you're being enumerated, much the same as nmap's OS fingerprinting
2017-09-19T22:00:45 < qyx> there were usb memory stics simulating HID keyboard too
2017-09-19T22:00:54 < aandrew> yes but that's not what we're talking about
2017-09-19T22:01:17 < BrainDamage> aandrew: typically what is more practical is to just try a series of working attacks, and hope one lands
2017-09-19T22:01:23 < aandrew> yes agreed
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2017-09-19T22:01:36 < beanbag-> http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1332289&
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2017-09-19T22:02:18 < Steffanx> ty
2017-09-19T22:02:25 < aandrew> lol
2017-09-19T22:02:29 < aandrew> drive-by-urling
2017-09-19T22:03:26 < qyx> aandrew: there were keys expliting some usb stack issues
2017-09-19T22:03:27 < qyx> but also
2017-09-19T22:03:37 < aandrew> badusb was largely overblown
2017-09-19T22:03:42 < BrainDamage> you can also exploit high level behaviour of the os
2017-09-19T22:03:42 < qyx> that simple hid key usb stick typed in the explit like on a keyboard
2017-09-19T22:03:43 < aandrew> but there are valid attack vectors
2017-09-19T22:04:01 < BrainDamage> such as add a usb network card, and hope the os configures it as valid
2017-09-19T22:04:11 < aandrew> qyx: yes, it's trivial to put an STM32 on a usb key that looks and acts like a flash drive but carries a nefarious HID class
2017-09-19T22:04:20 < aandrew> BrainDamage: yep I remember that one
2017-09-19T22:25:38 < ohsix> firewire dma attacks didn't amount to much more than 'disable firewire if it matters', dma virtualization and poop wasn't even created to solve that problem, or even a similar one
2017-09-19T22:26:14 < ohsix> forget being able to access memory and shit, the firmware will run boot code right off the device, and even that shit didn't get signging/cert junk until a few years ago
2017-09-19T22:27:00 < invzim> can I mess with boot0 while in user-mode without disrupting anything?
2017-09-19T22:27:12 < invzim> looking at saving a physical button
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2017-09-19T22:52:43 < zyp> mess in what sense?
2017-09-19T22:53:05 < zyp> AFAIK, boot0 is only ever sampled on reset, don't care at all other times
2017-09-19T22:56:23 < invzim> have boot0 to a tact switch, and same signal to another pin
2017-09-19T22:56:36 < invzim> so at power-up it will be usb DFU mode, in normal mode something else
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2017-09-19T23:01:22 < fest> why would openocd/texane stlink fail to connect to target but BMP succeed?
2017-09-19T23:02:13 < fest> alternatively, BMP doesn't have support for removing readout protection, right?
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2017-09-19T23:03:55 < zyp> yes it does
2017-09-19T23:04:07 < zyp> mon mass_erase, or something like that
2017-09-19T23:05:16 < fest> yeah,  I found a reference to that in a github issue but that didn't work for me and `monitor help` didn't show that option
2017-09-19T23:05:51 < zyp> IIRC it's a target specific command, so support will depend on family
2017-09-19T23:06:33 < zyp> I know I've done it on f1 before, not familiar with ROP on other families
2017-09-19T23:07:36 < zyp> anyway, even if BMP doesn't support it implicitly, you could just look up what register to write to disable ROP and write it from gdb
2017-09-19T23:15:42 < fest> something fishy going on: https://pastebin.com/v3CnHWTc
2017-09-19T23:23:38 < fest> since I can't connect to target neither via stlink/openocd AND the device is chinajunk the manufacturer may have increased the protection level above readout
2017-09-19T23:23:58 < zyp> what does mon version say?
2017-09-19T23:24:05 < zyp> F1 only has one protection level
2017-09-19T23:25:50 < fest> Black Magic Probe (Firmware v1.6.1-50-g7663794) (Hardware Version 1)
2017-09-19T23:26:56 < zyp> hmm, fairly new firmware
2017-09-19T23:27:25 < zyp> git commit is from Jul 9, newer than last I upgraded mine
2017-09-19T23:28:17 < fest> it's the stlink target though, but it doesn't look like it would remove target specific commands
2017-09-19T23:40:06 < fest> ... it started to work, no idea why
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2017-09-20T00:14:07 < BrainDamage> attn Laurenceb https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8x8gaa/pepe-the-frogs-creator-lawsuits-dmca-matt-furie-alt-right
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2017-09-20T00:32:07 < Laurenceb_> sup my trollfriends
2017-09-20T00:32:11 < Cracki> he let the patent application expire
2017-09-20T00:32:47 < Cracki> *trademark or soemthing
2017-09-20T00:33:29 < gxti> keep trying, only a few other kinds of IP to guess
2017-09-20T00:34:40 < Steffanx> are you sure Laurenceb_: <PaulFertser> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/troll#Verb "7. To stroll about in order to find a sexual partner, to cruise (originally homosexual slang)."
2017-09-20T00:37:16 < Laurenceb_> top kek
2017-09-20T00:37:31 < Laurenceb_> useful knowledge
2017-09-20T00:42:03 < Cracki> troll, trawl, all the same
2017-09-20T00:46:40 < Thorn> https://myaccount.google.com/stateattackwarning?interrupt=0&pli=1
2017-09-20T00:47:07 < Cracki> who's click that link
2017-09-20T00:50:13 < Laurenceb_> https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/dsc_0006_bright.png?w=796&h=580
2017-09-20T00:50:49 < Laurenceb_> pretty much how I imagined it
2017-09-20T00:54:18 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/uSzXnYg.jpg
2017-09-20T00:55:06 < Cracki> very nope
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2017-09-20T01:05:48 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/y03fcz9qnumz.jpg
2017-09-20T01:08:52 < kakimir> Thorn: what did I click?
2017-09-20T01:08:56 < kakimir> and why?
2017-09-20T01:09:57 < Thorn> a link. out of curiosity.
2017-09-20T01:12:09 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/94ke3thidumz.jpg
2017-09-20T01:20:22 < Laurenceb_> http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/china-built-em-engine-nasa-mars-in-ten-weeks_uk_59b8efb9e4b0edff971798cf
2017-09-20T01:20:48 < Laurenceb_> upgrdman: glad I'm not a local
2017-09-20T01:21:08 < Laurenceb_> I would unironically go Elliot Rogers on the tourists
2017-09-20T01:21:40 < Laurenceb_> >  China has confirmed that NASA still has some serious competition as it may have successfully created its own version of the mysterious ‘Impossible Engine’ known as the EM Drive.
2017-09-20T01:21:55 < Laurenceb_> we have a prize for the most retarded sentence evar
2017-09-20T01:22:29 < Laurenceb_>  baffled by the technology and left unable to develop a working prototype.
2017-09-20T01:22:33 < Laurenceb_> mysides.jpg
2017-09-20T01:22:42 < Steffanx> upgrdman is alive?? We declared you dead
2017-09-20T01:23:31 < upgrdman> im alive
2017-09-20T01:24:09 < upgrdman> i was just in CN again, and decided it would be a good idea to try to act like a normal person and do things IRL instead of idling in IRC 24/7
2017-09-20T01:24:16 < Steffanx> Your ##stm32 buddies missed you :P
2017-09-20T01:24:21 < upgrdman> of course, this is more fun, so im back :)
2017-09-20T01:24:26 < upgrdman> yay :)
2017-09-20T01:24:57 < Steffanx> Failed to act "normal"?
2017-09-20T01:25:24 < Steffanx> You're never "normal" as a yankee in china
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2017-09-20T01:25:44 < Steffanx> Luckily you're not black. Wouldnt make it better
2017-09-20T01:26:24 < upgrdman> yes. im very glad im not black ;)
2017-09-20T01:26:33 < upgrdman> >_>
2017-09-20T01:26:45 < Laurenceb_> on the internet nobody knows if you are a primitive subhuman
2017-09-20T01:27:15 < Laurenceb_> or even if you are an African American in fact
2017-09-20T01:27:24 < upgrdman> Steffanx, the "act like a normal person" didn't fail though. it
2017-09-20T01:27:32 < upgrdman> Steffanx, the "act like a normal person" didn't fail though. it's just more work than i want to put in.
2017-09-20T01:27:40 < Steffanx> :D
2017-09-20T01:28:03 < Laurenceb_> upgrdman: can you steal the emdrive prototype from China
2017-09-20T01:28:13 < Laurenceb_> apparently NASA can't make their prototype work
2017-09-20T01:28:22 < upgrdman> prolly not. most importantly, because im not in cn right now.
2017-09-20T01:28:27 < Laurenceb_> although its 100% going to work, honest
2017-09-20T01:28:28 < Laurenceb_> ah
2017-09-20T01:28:50 < upgrdman> sync, im back. pm me if you still need help with that ebay thinggy.
2017-09-20T01:29:13 < jadew> Laurenceb_, I heard some guys on youtube made it work in their kitchen
2017-09-20T01:29:27 < Laurenceb_> cool story bro
2017-09-20T01:29:40 < jadew> they're powering it from a power strip plugged in itself
2017-09-20T01:29:58 < jadew> from a previous video where they used that to power a washing machine motor
2017-09-20T01:30:10 < Laurenceb_> top kek
2017-09-20T01:30:12 < Steffanx> Was it this ukranian guy?
2017-09-20T01:30:30 < jadew> I'm joking, but I'd watch that
2017-09-20T01:31:00 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/
2017-09-20T01:31:11 < Laurenceb_> I like how they have a crackpot flag
2017-09-20T01:31:20 < Laurenceb_> clearly they are only being ironic at this point
2017-09-20T01:32:31 < sync> ya upgrdman
2017-09-20T01:32:42 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-20T01:34:25 < Laurenceb_> New EmDrive Paper: Universal Theory of General Incompetence by M.P. Benowitz
2017-09-20T01:41:31  * Laurenceb_ had a wurk meeting earlier, had to think of names for our ambulance
2017-09-20T01:41:32 < upgrdman> just riding the subway huh   https://imgur.com/a/1JIk9
2017-09-20T01:41:50 < Laurenceb_> someone suggested "pede-lance", "pede-lab"
2017-09-20T01:46:46 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeuJ_6skbF4
2017-09-20T01:46:55 < Laurenceb_> I got busted
2017-09-20T01:49:57 < Laurenceb_> youtube commenters have me sussed
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2017-09-20T02:40:06 < Laurenceb_> a drive by offensive commenting by crt
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2017-09-20T02:56:57 < ohsix> guh guy keeps going on about alarmist garbage and since i said something he drags me into it; it's a pitch for his business and i know it is useless
2017-09-20T02:57:11 < ohsix> interests do not meet in the middle on it, dunno how to extricate
2017-09-20T02:57:56 < aandrew> upgrdman: is that dongs on the subway?
2017-09-20T03:03:36 < upgrdman> prolly
2017-09-20T03:08:10 < aandrew> hah fake ambulance
2017-09-20T03:16:01 < jadew> why did he drove that?
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2017-09-20T03:18:00 < aandrew> hm, sci-hub.io is down
2017-09-20T03:19:23 < jadew> amy good movies lately?
2017-09-20T03:19:24 < sync> cc is up tho
2017-09-20T03:19:38 < sync> yeah it is up for me aandrew
2017-09-20T03:20:34 < aandrew> sync: can you grab DOI 10.1109/PCCON.2007.372956
2017-09-20T03:20:45 < aandrew> jadew: four lions was funny
2017-09-20T03:20:58 < jadew> aandrew, thanks, I'll check it out
2017-09-20T03:21:08 < sync> grabbed
2017-09-20T03:21:32 < sync> where to put it?
2017-09-20T03:21:42 < aandrew> um
2017-09-20T03:21:53 < aandrew> can you throw it on gdrive or dropbox or something?
2017-09-20T03:21:58 < aandrew> not sure what a good temp spot is
2017-09-20T03:22:43 < jadew> so what's that sci-hub thing?
2017-09-20T03:22:51 < jadew> does it have IEEE papers?
2017-09-20T03:23:02 < aandrew> yeah pretty much any academic paper
2017-09-20T03:23:17 < jadew> neat
2017-09-20T03:23:40 < aandrew> yep it's awesome
2017-09-20T03:28:40 < sync> I've hit a few things they did not have
2017-09-20T03:28:52 < sync> the paper aandrew wants also really sucks in quality
2017-09-20T03:29:04 < sync> but that seems to be by the submitter
2017-09-20T03:29:40 < aandrew> yeah someo f you probably have academic access to shit but I don't
2017-09-20T03:29:44 < aandrew> so sci-hub.io for me
2017-09-20T03:30:08 < jadew> where do you search for what to search for
2017-09-20T03:30:14 < jadew> google?
2017-09-20T03:31:01 < sync> google scholar is good
2017-09-20T03:31:08 < sync> springerlink usually as well
2017-09-20T03:31:50 < sync> well, academic access also sucks sometimes
2017-09-20T03:32:26 < sync> have to run to the lib, yell a them to get me the paper, wait a few days, receive paper
2017-09-20T03:32:45 < aandrew> jadew: I google around, if I end up on an ieee site or something with a DOI my next stop is sci-hub
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2017-09-20T03:32:59 < aandrew> I find springer is useless but maybe I've been misusing it
2017-09-20T03:33:01 < jadew> good to know about it
2017-09-20T03:33:07 < jadew> there were quite a few papers I wanted to read
2017-09-20T03:33:36 < jadew> I don't remember them anymore tho
2017-09-20T03:34:00 < sync> idk, springer has some good books
2017-09-20T03:34:03 < Laurenceb_> https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/11/quantum-brain/506768/
2017-09-20T03:34:15 < Laurenceb_> sounds emdrive tier
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2017-09-20T03:59:03 < tpw_rules> am i gonna have to buy you an emdrive for your bday
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2017-09-20T05:16:00 < Rob235> woo: https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
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2017-09-20T05:45:30 < stvn> ssssssup
2017-09-20T05:46:00 < Rob235> web dev'in I think everyone else is sleeping
2017-09-20T05:46:34 < stvn> the dogs
2017-09-20T05:48:55 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-09-20T05:48:59 < Rob235> whatchu think?
2017-09-20T05:50:42 < stvn> draw button does nothing
2017-09-20T05:51:12 < Rob235> none of the buttons do, I just started a couple days ago
2017-09-20T05:52:59 < Rob235> bedtime
2017-09-20T05:53:23 < stvn> later
2017-09-20T05:53:25 < stvn> sport
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2017-09-20T06:26:20 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/HWNmdHi.jpg how to count
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2017-09-20T06:32:06 < dongs> damnit cheapjudew just quit
2017-09-20T06:32:15 < dongs> i was gonna ask if he ever got anything from allpcb or if hes too cheap for it
2017-09-20T06:40:55 < scrts> these tits say its 2$: https://jlcpcb.com/
2017-09-20T06:41:36 < scrts> how it is so cheapo?
2017-09-20T06:42:55 < dongs> china
2017-09-20T06:43:27 < scrts> still....
2017-09-20T06:44:07 < dongs> donno those "5" of OSP was $16
2017-09-20T06:44:21 < dongs> thats cheap as fuck anyway.
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2017-09-20T07:21:47 < mickjc75> .
2017-09-20T07:38:27 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/162643285823 ill take 2
2017-09-20T07:42:04 < stvn> fuck
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2017-09-20T07:44:35 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/Da5CLfW.jpg
2017-09-20T07:44:41 < stvn> what did i do to deserve one of these
2017-09-20T07:44:55 < dongs> 1000W
2017-09-20T07:44:56 < dongs> haha
2017-09-20T07:44:57 < englishman> TRUMP16
2017-09-20T07:45:06 < dongs> more like 50W at most right
2017-09-20T07:45:25 < stvn> tda8950 iirc
2017-09-20T07:45:37 < stvn> for the lf
2017-09-20T07:45:41 < stvn> and lm3886 for the hf
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2017-09-20T08:01:22 < stvn> ah fuck its the amp
2017-09-20T08:03:25 < upgrdman> so i was reading about how kim jong un was firing missiles at dongs a couple weeks ago. then when i was in china this happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtbuY-vz3Ek
2017-09-20T08:03:56 < stvn> oh woofer measures 1r1
2017-09-20T08:04:11 < stvn> sweet
2017-09-20T08:04:51 < stvn> dongs do you know any slants who make decent speakers
2017-09-20T08:05:00 < dongs> nope
2017-09-20T08:05:15 < stvn> better put them forward to mackie
2017-09-20T08:13:21 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/7PWjwaY.jpg
2017-09-20T08:13:27 < stvn> good job
2017-09-20T08:13:49 < dongs> looks like they tried to put the rated amps thorugh it
2017-09-20T08:13:57 < dongs> "rated"
2017-09-20T08:15:32 < stvn> :}
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2017-09-20T09:21:22 < invzim> hm, sthe stm32f072 doesn't have swo pin, will semihosting printf still work through swdiO?
2017-09-20T09:21:35 < dongs> no trace out on F0
2017-09-20T09:21:50 < englishman> just use atmega328p dude
2017-09-20T09:21:51 < invzim> they're taking my toys away?!?
2017-09-20T09:22:01 < dongs> solid advice
2017-09-20T09:22:06 < invzim> I'm not going back to couch
2017-09-20T09:22:10 < invzim> hehe
2017-09-20T09:23:21 < invzim> guess I wil be better at using gdb and stuff then
2017-09-20T09:24:31 < dongs> printf is dumb anyway
2017-09-20T09:24:36 < dongs> you can still inspect stuff in real time etc
2017-09-20T09:24:41 < dongs> if youre on f0 just download free legal stm32f0 keil
2017-09-20T09:24:42 < dongs> done
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2017-09-20T09:26:21 < englishman> what is semihosting
2017-09-20T09:26:28 < englishman> wait: I don't care
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2017-09-20T09:37:08 < jpa-> invzim: semihosting doesn't use swo, it just uses breakpoints + swd
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2017-09-20T10:30:35 < Steffanx> Special page for englishman http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/armcc/armcc_pge1358787046598.htm
2017-09-20T10:36:14 < dongs> semihosting: shit that never works
2017-09-20T10:38:03 < Steffanx> Ya, cant teach an old do(n)g new tricks
2017-09-20T10:48:56 < ohsix> derp
2017-09-20T11:04:56 < dongs> I just keil like a pro
2017-09-20T11:04:59 < dongs> i dont need any tricks
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2017-09-20T11:06:05 < emeryth> keil shill
2017-09-20T11:06:33 < upgrdman> ebay is updating their policies and "The key update to the eBay User Agreement is that we’ve made it clearer how we address violations of our policy on offers to buy or sell outside eBay. Sellers who violate this policy may be charged a final value fee for the applicable item, even if it doesn’t sell." lol
2017-09-20T11:07:31 < dongs> whats wrong with that
2017-09-20T11:07:35 < dongs> ebay exists fora reason
2017-09-20T11:07:43 < dongs> taking transaction off ebay is pretty cunty
2017-09-20T11:07:50 < dongs> considerign they were the tool used to set it up
2017-09-20T11:07:52 < dongs> soo
2017-09-20T11:07:55 < upgrdman> dongs, nothing wrong. im lol'ing out of happyness
2017-09-20T11:08:22 < dongs> have you been trolled with this before?
2017-09-20T11:08:23 < upgrdman> i look forward to reporting said cunts.
2017-09-20T11:08:25 < upgrdman> yes
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2017-09-20T11:15:54 < ohsix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xv6
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2017-09-20T11:27:58 < ohsix> rigol's new thing is 'innovation or nothing'
2017-09-20T11:31:11 < upgrdman> how to raft: https://i.imgur.com/Yc5hTAi.gifv
2017-09-20T11:31:31 < upgrdman> ohsix, fits right in with "if you have to say it, is it really true?"
2017-09-20T11:34:12 < upgrdman> lol  https://i.imgur.com/5zFCVee.gifv
2017-09-20T11:35:56 < ohsix> i've read some bad copy that's almost all sentimentalism and the use of the word 'innovation'
2017-09-20T11:36:10 < ohsix> i try not to read it cuz i'd just land on the guy writing it like a ton of bricks
2017-09-20T11:36:14 < ohsix> but it is so bad
2017-09-20T11:38:07 < PaulFertser> I wonder if there're any small decent agilent linear lab power supply china clones. If not, why?
2017-09-20T11:38:11 < ohsix> is there something like dropbox but for small groups and cheaper
2017-09-20T11:38:35 < ohsix> decent for china means fit for purpose and not expensive
2017-09-20T11:38:41 < ohsix> and the answer is yes
2017-09-20T11:40:32 < ohsix> i need to make a list of stuff for the lab
2017-09-20T11:40:40 < ohsix> it is somehow harder when i'm spending someone elses money
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2017-09-20T11:40:57 < ohsix> need isolation transformers & loads and junk to do more of the repair shit that falls in my lap
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2017-09-20T11:41:49 < ohsix> haha
2017-09-20T11:41:58 < ohsix> eevblag mentioned something i said on twitter :DDDDDD
2017-09-20T11:42:05 < ohsix> in the rigol teardown video
2017-09-20T11:43:54 < Tectu> with the amount of text you produce - that is not that spectacular.
2017-09-20T11:43:57 < Tectu> dial it down, my friend.
2017-09-20T11:45:28 < ohsix> 🖕
2017-09-20T11:47:11 < ohsix> i like when he acts incredulous at a thing, but all it was is that he missed something printed on the lcd
2017-09-20T11:55:04 < BrainDamage> upgrdman: that raft video is an accurate metaphor for software stacks
2017-09-20T11:55:44 < BrainDamage> the more you pile the smoother the ride but the higher the risk to tilt over
2017-09-20T11:56:20 < upgrdman> heh
2017-09-20T11:56:34 < upgrdman> doesnt look like a smoother ride though :)
2017-09-20T11:56:40 < ohsix> it almost has enough layers to be osi
2017-09-20T11:56:42 < upgrdman> dat leverage
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2017-09-20T12:02:43 < ohsix> heh the printer i use needs a new pei surface thing on it, lulzbot sells for 45 what can be had for 8 elsewhere
2017-09-20T12:03:01 < upgrdman> ohsix, what printer
2017-09-20T12:03:54 < fest> how well does PEI surface work and what filaments it can be used with?
2017-09-20T12:04:22 < ohsix> lulzbot taz 5
2017-09-20T12:04:27 < PaulFertser> And does it have any advantages compared to glass mirror if the bed easily heats to 110C whenever needed?
2017-09-20T12:04:51 < ohsix> haven't used a printer without a heated bed or pei
2017-09-20T12:05:05 < ohsix> but the glue stick prep & cleanup isn't needed
2017-09-20T12:05:18 < PaulFertser> I think same about plain glass.
2017-09-20T12:06:02 < ohsix> heated bed being the real thing that matters in any comparison / extrapolation
2017-09-20T12:06:16 < PaulFertser> I tried printing nylon, a bit of hairspray helps, but I use the cheapest variety and do not clean it. Seems to work fine.
2017-09-20T12:07:45 < ohsix> well, cleaning is medium / long term concern
2017-09-20T12:08:23 < PaulFertser> I've seen ABS being successfully printed on glass, without glue stick etc. And glass is way harder to scratch.
2017-09-20T12:08:30 < ohsix> build plate kind of looks like shit with it on there
2017-09-20T12:08:54 < PaulFertser> It seems like ikea mirror cut to size is the perfect choice for a heated bed ;)
2017-09-20T12:08:59 < ohsix> oh, it's not t he pei https://ohai.lulzbot.com/media/uploads/IMG_6595_WdNHJpC.JPG.600x0_q85.jpg
2017-09-20T12:09:03 < ohsix> this is withotu pei
2017-09-20T12:09:19 < ohsix> nnggh means i need to take it apart and hitit with a roller
2017-09-20T12:10:05 < PaulFertser> 4 glass mirror beds for 7 EUR
2017-09-20T12:10:09 < ohsix> shop paid for 500$ dual extruder toolhead that is basically unusable
2017-09-20T12:11:16 < ohsix> rebuilt the head that came with it the other day, the machine is fast and looks like it sort of works; someone snapped the nozzle off the old one, then tried to chase it and generally fucking up the heater block
2017-09-20T12:11:42 < daeyz> Tectu: lol
2017-09-20T12:11:51 < ohsix> nozzle is torqued right, then the fins / feed pipe are torqued from the other side, so they lock together, pretty hard too
2017-09-20T12:14:22 < fest> PaulFertser: eh, I haven't had good experience with plain glass beds for ABS, always needed either kapton or ABS juice (ABS dissolved in acetone)
2017-09-20T12:14:37 < PaulFertser> fest: with what temp?
2017-09-20T12:14:50 < fest> 100-110 degC
2017-09-20T12:15:23 < PaulFertser> Have you tried a bit higher? Also, strong hairspray is easy to apply.
2017-09-20T12:17:13 < fest> eh, I got the slaveholders to buy Zortrax m200, didn't want to be the guy printing things
2017-09-20T12:17:56 < ohsix> i'm de-facto operator cuz nobody else is even using it
2017-09-20T12:18:19 < ohsix> 3d printers are kind of shit
2017-09-20T12:18:47 < ohsix> that m200 form factor and with the z axis table are good
2017-09-20T12:19:49 < fest> m200 works great for "press print, go home" scenario
2017-09-20T12:21:45 < ohsix> never a good sign when you're asking yourself 'is this supposed to be this shit?' taking a while to accept it, and not just thinking i have to tweak another number
2017-09-20T12:21:49 < fest> only maintanance has been cleaning the bed twice a year (molten filament gets between PCB surface and metal plate and warps the PCB surface)
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2017-09-20T12:31:42 < upgrdman> whats m200 form factor? any 3d dickers in an enclosure?
2017-09-20T12:32:03 < ohsix> the makerbot style with the panels & cutout areas
2017-09-20T12:32:15 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-20T12:32:25 < ohsix> oh and bed on z, not printhead
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2017-09-20T12:40:43 < dongs> a u t i s m
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2017-09-20T12:42:23 < Steffanx> O b s e s s e d
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2017-09-20T12:49:54 < dongs> i n c o r r e c t
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2017-09-20T12:52:02 < Steffanx> : P
2017-09-20T13:01:07 < Tectu> http://www.openstm32.org/tiki-register.php
2017-09-20T13:01:16 < Tectu> > Please do not use an email address managed by Microsoft (email address @Outlook, Hotmail, Live...); Microsoft mail servers currently refuse all mails sent fom our servers so you would not be able to validate your email or login to the site...
2017-09-20T13:01:17 < Tectu> hah.
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2017-09-20T13:12:26 < Thorn> l0l s110 v8.0.0 is not compatible with nrf51 rev. 1
2017-09-20T13:15:13 < emeryth> welcome to the world of nrf5
2017-09-20T13:24:08 < Thorn> there's more good news in release notes
2017-09-20T13:28:28 < Thorn> lay37 buttons don't click :/
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2017-09-20T13:43:33 < rajkosto> i have that email problem but for att/aol
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2017-09-20T15:04:44 < karlp> hrm, stm32l0x1 ref man has some pretty serious bugs in their code examples.
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2017-09-20T15:05:06 < karlp> was like, "Oh, those are nice" "hang on... how does that work..." "oh, it's a copy paste from another seciotn that was done badly."
2017-09-20T15:11:10 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgtc.com/22K7ec6.png accurate
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2017-09-20T15:17:29 < dongs> https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/what-could-go-wrong/2831015_32811810278.html
2017-09-20T15:19:32 < Laurenceb> lel
2017-09-20T15:19:42 < Laurenceb> impedance matching? Wazzat
2017-09-20T15:19:55 < Laurenceb> congrats to aadamson
2017-09-20T15:20:19 < Laurenceb> google loon utterly btfo
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2017-09-20T15:25:59 < karlp> btfo?
2017-09-20T15:26:09 < Laurenceb> owned
2017-09-20T15:26:34 < karlp> I gathered that, but what is it meant to stand for?
2017-09-20T15:26:35 < Laurenceb> aadamson just passed 1 year flight duration
2017-09-20T15:26:55 < dongs> how doyou know its still flying
2017-09-20T15:26:59 < Laurenceb> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BTFO
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2017-09-20T15:27:08 < Laurenceb> dongs: haha yeah maybe its all fake
2017-09-20T15:27:25 < Laurenceb> it was on aprs a couple of days ago
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2017-09-20T15:33:21 < dongs> About 1 results (0.54 seconds)
2017-09-20T15:33:25 < dongs> i'm reaching the limits of innovation here
2017-09-20T15:34:20 < Laurenceb> I'm in luck http://www.vivastreet.co.uk/profile/ind/shantel120/27347003?show_personal_ads=1
2017-09-20T15:35:07 < Laurenceb> >reply >it's Chris Chan
2017-09-20T15:36:15 < jpa-> https://twitter.com/ibelings/status/888485192024952832/photo/1    kakimir did you design this??
2017-09-20T15:37:06 < Laurenceb> why no solder stop over traces
2017-09-20T15:37:59 < Laurenceb> weird ic
2017-09-20T15:38:27 < Laurenceb> why would you need that many clocks with integer divider
2017-09-20T15:38:30 < dongs> haha
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2017-09-20T15:42:04 < aadamson> Laurenceb, still need 2 more hours... :)... 364d 22hrs as of right now
2017-09-20T15:42:05 < aadamson> :)_
2017-09-20T15:42:11 < aadamson> but thanks!
2017-09-20T15:42:13 < Laurenceb> ah
2017-09-20T15:42:50 < aadamson> make it the search balloon, then select all, then click anywhere on the red line for the total duration, distance, etc
2017-09-20T15:43:16 < Laurenceb> ah ok
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2017-09-20T15:56:34 < Rob235> well hello there
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2017-09-20T16:33:33 < Steffanx> Fucking hell import taxes. Pay $50 on a $31 order
2017-09-20T16:34:00 < Steffanx> There you have my error related raging englishman :P
2017-09-20T16:34:04 < Steffanx> Arrow*
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2017-09-20T16:37:57 < jadew> dongs, did you order 5?
2017-09-20T16:50:00 < Laurenceb> with uk import taxes you usually need to ring them and shout
2017-09-20T16:50:12 < Laurenceb> usually they will classify things in the worst way possible
2017-09-20T16:50:23 < Laurenceb> but they will reclassify correctly if you shout at them
2017-09-20T16:50:50 < Laurenceb>  "a sucker born every minute" applies
2017-09-20T16:53:32 < englishman> http://bc.ctvnews.ca/therapy-dog-mistaken-for-wolf-shot-to-death-by-hunter-1.3596900
2017-09-20T16:53:38 < englishman> this guy literally shot the cure for autism
2017-09-20T16:54:36 < englishman> dono how it works in the flatlands but arrow charges me tax before shipment
2017-09-20T17:02:06 < daeyz> you are allowed to shoot wolves? o.0
2017-09-20T17:02:52 < englishman> theres a hunting season but self defense is also perfectly valid
2017-09-20T17:04:07 < daeyz> didnt expect the scenario to qualify for the later :^)
2017-09-20T17:04:24 < englishman> nobody ever does
2017-09-20T17:04:58 < jadew> do people eat wolfs?
2017-09-20T17:05:17 < daeyz> probably trophy tards
2017-09-20T17:05:23 < daeyz> i doubt they are eaten
2017-09-20T17:05:38 < englishman> dont think white people eat dogs, no
2017-09-20T17:05:55 < jadew> that's why I was wondering, cuz they're basically dogs
2017-09-20T17:06:51 < englishman> hmm looks like google bought htc
2017-09-20T17:07:15 < daeyz> lets see how long they keep them this time :P
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2017-09-20T17:31:26 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/DL7AD/pecanpico9
2017-09-20T17:31:34 < Laurenceb> ^impressive
2017-09-20T17:31:49 < Laurenceb> wonder how long it will fly for
2017-09-20T17:32:46 < dongs> that 3D looks like kikecad
2017-09-20T17:33:10 < Laurenceb> bga stm32f4 with stencil and 4/4mil pcb apparently
2017-09-20T17:33:32 < dongs> dodesnt look bga to me
2017-09-20T17:33:47 < dongs> https://github.com/DL7AD/pecanpico9/raw/master/pecanpico9a.jpg
2017-09-20T17:33:47 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/DL7AD/pecanpico9/blob/master/pecanpico8a.jpg
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2017-09-20T17:34:43 < Laurenceb> flying atm http://ssdv.habhub.org/
2017-09-20T17:37:28 < Laurenceb> and it's official https://www.dropbox.com/s/z6tq0vdxvtzqvxm/Official.png?dl=0
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2017-09-20T17:58:42 < jadew> did that baloon fly almost 1 million km?
2017-09-20T17:59:10 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-09-20T17:59:37 < jadew> neat, how big is it?
2017-09-20T18:00:16 < Laurenceb> about 2m tall by 1m diameter iirc
2017-09-20T18:00:28 < jadew> tiny
2017-09-20T18:00:49 < jadew> pretty nice
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2017-09-20T18:31:55 < englishman> that render looks like a balloonoob project
2017-09-20T18:32:02 < englishman> congrats aandrew
2017-09-20T18:32:03 < englishman> err
2017-09-20T18:32:05 < englishman> aadamson:
2017-09-20T18:32:09 < englishman> google btfo
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2017-09-20T18:32:40 < englishman> guess the envelope is still doing fine, too
2017-09-20T18:33:03 < Laurenceb> now we need to crowdfund our own internet network
2017-09-20T18:33:50 < englishman> https://www.samtec.com/products/hlcd
2017-09-20T18:33:55 < englishman> supposed to order 100 of these
2017-09-20T18:33:58 < englishman> they are $50 each
2017-09-20T18:34:08 < englishman> i have no way of verifying they are the correct ones at all due to NDA
2017-09-20T18:34:17 < englishman> writing a cover-my-ass email now
2017-09-20T18:34:45 < Laurenceb> > Hermaphroditic
2017-09-20T18:34:48 < Laurenceb> my sides
2017-09-20T18:34:55 < englishman> thought you might like that
2017-09-20T18:35:00 < Laurenceb> no homo
2017-09-20T18:35:48 < Laurenceb> http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/20/trans-woman-hanged-herself-by-accident-during-bondage-photo-shoot-6941328/
2017-09-20T18:36:24 < Laurenceb> looks like typical ircer activities
2017-09-20T18:37:48 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/LXMJQJN
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2017-09-20T18:40:31 < Laurenceb> reeeee
2017-09-20T18:40:41 < Laurenceb> I detect signs of shoppage
2017-09-20T18:40:50 < Laurenceb> I knew that image was too good to be true
2017-09-20T18:42:47 < Laurenceb> http://metro.co.uk/2017/09/20/postal-vote-for-gay-marriage-has-unfortunate-bumsex-barcode-6941087/
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2017-09-20T19:26:06 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve3WRkj-_DQ&feature=youtu.be
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2017-09-20T19:56:52 < englishman> "guys can you check these cables please i think there is a polarity problem"
2017-09-20T19:56:57 < englishman> "no problem they are fine"
2017-09-20T19:57:04 < englishman> "ok plz sign off on them"
2017-09-20T19:57:10 < englishman> 10 minutes pass
2017-09-20T19:57:16 < englishman> "here's the fix"
2017-09-20T20:00:19  * karlp laughs
2017-09-20T20:00:36 < karlp> so, fixed my fast page flashing ram function problems.
2017-09-20T20:01:00 < karlp> wasn't disabling interrupts while writing the page, so was getting serial rx and systick interrupts that were.... trying to run from flash!
2017-09-20T20:31:31 < Thorn> now you're going to lose incoming serial data
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2017-09-20T20:39:14 < karlp> nah, doesn't matter, not for me anyway.
2017-09-20T20:39:56 < karlp> shit better go home
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2017-09-20T21:16:28 < Thorn> so the whole point of differential signaling (without common gnd) vs. single ended is that both wires see high impedance at the end?
2017-09-20T21:16:55 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-09-20T21:17:45 < Thorn> >pattern backgrounds
2017-09-20T21:17:46 < Thorn> >2017
2017-09-20T21:18:03 < Rob235> what, the titlebars?
2017-09-20T21:18:17 < Rob235> I like em
2017-09-20T21:18:41 < Rob235> so suck it trebek
2017-09-20T21:21:00 < jpa-> Thorn: well, doesn't have to be high impedance, just that they see a similar impedance so any noise voltage is equal
2017-09-20T21:21:07 < zyp> Thorn, the point of differential signalling is to eliminate common mode noise
2017-09-20T21:21:13 < jpa-> you can terminate differential signal with e.g. 50 ohms if you want to
2017-09-20T21:28:02 < jadew> the idea is that they pick the same noise at the same time
2017-09-20T21:28:15 < jadew> so when it gets to the other side the difference between the two signals is the same
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2017-09-20T21:32:42 < Thorn> ok right equal input impedance
2017-09-20T21:33:21 < jadew> equal impedance is important so the signals stay the same, but the idea is that what they pick up has to be picked up at the same time
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2017-09-20T21:34:29 < jadew> it's also important because of common impedance coupling (as a source of noise)
2017-09-20T21:34:39 < jadew> you don't want them to pick different noise
2017-09-20T21:36:22 < Thorn> so what about a single ended system with a very low impedance (current mode) input
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2017-09-20T21:36:47 < Thorn> is it going to be similar to a differential one wrt common mode rejection
2017-09-20T21:37:10 < Thorn> (twisted pair cable is allowed)
2017-09-20T21:38:12 < englishman> http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0471755001.html
2017-09-20T21:38:14 < englishman> good book
2017-09-20T21:40:12 < jadew> Thorn, it's going to be susceptible to magnetic field coupling
2017-09-20T21:40:42 < jadew> sorry, electric field coupling
2017-09-20T21:40:52 < jadew> because the E-field induces current and H-field induces voltage
2017-09-20T21:42:08 < jpa-> Thorn: if a single-ended system has only the two wires connected to it, it's quite close to differential automatically - but with multiple cables, there could easily be multiple ground connections
2017-09-20T21:42:41 < jadew> not only that, but it depends how close the wire is to the ground wire vs the other ones
2017-09-20T21:42:48 < jadew> because you'll get stray capacitance
2017-09-20T21:43:03 < Thorn> >twisted pair
2017-09-20T21:43:23 < Thorn> with signal and ground
2017-09-20T21:44:05 < jadew> maybe I don't understand the terminology right, but the way I see it, twisted pairs are differential
2017-09-20T21:44:15 < jadew> is it not?
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2017-09-20T21:47:51 < englishman> signal and ground is a differential pair if there is only one ground
2017-09-20T21:48:13  * englishman lols
2017-09-20T21:48:33 < englishman> emc, how does it work
2017-09-20T21:48:39 < jadew> I think the only reason differential signaling uses - and + is so whatever loses there are, they are taken from both the - and the +
2017-09-20T21:48:46 < englishman> thorn go skim thru that book
2017-09-20T21:49:07 < jadew> but differential pairing is done for noise imunity
2017-09-20T21:50:04 < jadew> when you only have gnd and +, all the loses (which would mainly be resistive or due to radiation) would be taken from the + side
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2017-09-20T23:12:49 < Steffanx> damn it, why custom "rules" are so difficult. Fucking charge VAT over $100 shipping costs while i paid none :S
2017-09-20T23:13:00 < Steffanx> probably because the shipping is "worth" $100
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2017-09-20T23:16:26 < zyp> Steffanx, DHL?
2017-09-20T23:17:21 < zyp> DHL here are notorious for «oh, there's no shipping cost on the customs invoice, better make up a number to charge VAT off»
2017-09-20T23:17:45 < Steffanx> Yep, DHL.
2017-09-20T23:18:11 < Steffanx> $100 isnt weird for DHL Express, but still.. even when i would've paid for it,t it wouldnt have been that
2017-09-20T23:18:26 < zyp> shit like that is why I don't use DHL unless there's no other decent alternatives
2017-09-20T23:18:28 < jadew> DHL is garbage
2017-09-20T23:18:37 < Steffanx> yeah, not sure why i went for dhl over fedex
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2017-09-20T23:18:56 < jadew> they recently upped the fee for taking care of the customs from $15 to $30
2017-09-20T23:19:08 < Steffanx> not here. here it's like 14.50 euro
2017-09-20T23:19:13 < Steffanx> excl. VAT :P
2017-09-20T23:19:40 < jadew> apparently you can avoid that tax if you get some sort of number from the customs
2017-09-20T23:19:44 < Steffanx> should've refushed the package entirely.
2017-09-20T23:19:49 < jadew> that's what they charge you for lending you their number
2017-09-20T23:20:43 < jadew> oh, and that fee comes into play for anything value greater than $20, while the cheapest shipping from china is 17 or so
2017-09-20T23:21:57 < jadew> I guess it's good to keep in mind that when you buy with DHL, you pay extra
2017-09-20T23:22:02 < jadew> *ship
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2017-09-20T23:22:08 < zyp> I bought some shit for $247 shipped once, DHL figured shipping would be another $128 and charged me customs on $375
2017-09-20T23:22:16 < Steffanx> <3
2017-09-20T23:22:33 < jadew> yeah, they're super bad
2017-09-20T23:22:43 < zyp> when I complained they were like «oh, if that's wrong you'll have to apply to the customs authority for a refund»
2017-09-20T23:33:51 < Steffanx> Yeah, that's probably what i will hear too.
2017-09-20T23:34:25 < Steffanx> next time i wont use arrow again, just use digikey/mouser and pay the taxes in advance
2017-09-20T23:34:41 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZpZod-DjS8 musiiks times
2017-09-20T23:35:04 < Steffanx> its interesting how the dhl shipping costs are always zero at ARROW, not sure how they do that
2017-09-20T23:39:43 < englishman> 4:34 PM <Steffanx> next time i wont use arrow again
2017-09-20T23:39:50 < englishman> ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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2017-09-20T23:40:38 < Steffanx> haha, this is not arrow though, this is D-fucking-HL
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2017-09-21T00:16:08 < invzim> allreet, stm32f072 project sent to manu
2017-09-21T00:16:22  * invzim mentally prepared to struggle with usb stack
2017-09-21T00:17:16 < zyp> which stack will you be using?
2017-09-21T00:17:29 < invzim> no idea, probably cube if it's not barfing on me
2017-09-21T00:18:03 < invzim> last time I was into the usb soup was 8 or so years ago and it was a total PITA to get a composite device running
2017-09-21T00:19:20 < zyp> haha
2017-09-21T00:19:36 < zyp> what device are you making?
2017-09-21T00:20:42 < invzim> checking if I can make an stm32 version of this http://jvspac.kirurg.org/
2017-09-21T00:20:46 < invzim> running low on stock
2017-09-21T00:21:19 < invzim> rs485 on end, usb hid on the other - so hardware is pretty simple
2017-09-21T00:21:53 < zyp> ah
2017-09-21T00:23:01 < zyp> well, HID isn't composite
2017-09-21T00:23:47 < invzim> if you need 3 separate keyboards it is, or was
2017-09-21T00:23:56 < zyp> true
2017-09-21T00:24:22 < invzim> hack to get around simultaneous key presses
2017-09-21T00:24:55 < zyp> wat, don't tell me you believe usb keyboards can't do more than 6?
2017-09-21T00:25:22 < invzim> used to be like that at least
2017-09-21T00:25:29 < zyp> no, it's never been like that.
2017-09-21T00:25:40 < invzim> yes it has :)
2017-09-21T00:25:50 < zyp> bullshit
2017-09-21T00:26:08 < invzim> I'll find out in a few weeks
2017-09-21T00:26:14 < invzim> tweak the descriptor?
2017-09-21T00:26:43 < Laurenceb_> is that usb to rs485?
2017-09-21T00:26:55 < invzim> I for sure didn't use a hacked and modified microchip usb stack for fun back then :)
2017-09-21T00:27:01 < invzim> Laurenceb_: in essence yes
2017-09-21T00:27:03 < zyp> there's a reason most keyboards have max six keys (plus modifiers), but it's not a limitation of USB or HID
2017-09-21T00:27:08 < Laurenceb_> ah interesting
2017-09-21T00:27:21 < zyp> Laurenceb_, yeah, basically the opposite thing of what I made before
2017-09-21T00:27:35  * Laurenceb_ has been struggling with f042 based imu interfacing
2017-09-21T00:27:43 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/hjk3A.png
2017-09-21T00:27:45 < Laurenceb_> went with audio class in the end
2017-09-21T00:27:46 < invzim> the OS then?  OS x back then also handled this stuff differently
2017-09-21T00:28:00 < Laurenceb_> heh simple board
2017-09-21T00:28:29 < zyp> mine is designed to act as a JVS slave, but with a suitable firmware it could be a master too
2017-09-21T00:29:23 < zyp> invzim, there's two reasons for the 6-key limit
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2017-09-21T00:30:30 < zyp> the first reason is that it's the «boot profile», which means it has a standardized report format so BIOS gets away without parsing the report descriptor, and device vendors are too lazy to implement switching
2017-09-21T00:30:53 < zyp> the HID spec have mechanisms for switching between boot profile and custom profile, but that requires extra work
2017-09-21T00:31:47 < zyp> the second reason is that keyboards are typically USB LS, and MPS on LS is 8 bytes, which is why the boot spec reports have two bytes for modifier bits and six bytes for a key array
2017-09-21T00:34:02 < zyp> for a gaming device it doesn't really make sense to implement boot profile at all
2017-09-21T00:34:40 < zyp> and if you want all keys to be able to be pressed at the same time, you might as well just make them all into a bitfield, instead of having an array large enough to fit all keys
2017-09-21T00:35:03 < zyp> both approaches are valid and work, I've tested both in practice
2017-09-21T00:36:12 < invzim> on xp & friends too?
2017-09-21T00:36:18 < zyp> yes
2017-09-21T00:36:29 < invzim> If I can use 'stock' usb stack, it would make my life a lot simpler
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2017-09-21T00:37:08 < invzim> and yup, I used boot class back then
2017-09-21T00:37:17 < zyp> https://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/commit/?id=7a08559 <- here's a hack I did to make arcin compatible with a game that expected keyboard input
2017-09-21T00:38:11 < zyp> the gamepad reports already had the keys in a 13-bit bitfield, so I just changed the report descriptor to say it were keyboard keys instead
2017-09-21T00:39:09 < invzim> hope I can get this stuff to work, would be nice with a fresh start, git & all :)
2017-09-21T00:40:03 < invzim> current stuff is an old unsupported compiler that runs in winxp virtualbox
2017-09-21T00:41:10 < zyp> if you're doing HID stuff, my lib has pretty good support for everything you need, since it's pretty much the same as what I've needed so far
2017-09-21T00:41:46 < zyp> and I also got a JVS framing handler for that other thing
2017-09-21T00:42:46 < zyp> then again, I'm pretty biased towards my lib
2017-09-21T00:42:58 < zyp> I like it because I wrote it so I would, doesn't mean everybody else would :p
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2017-09-21T00:44:40 < invzim> :)
2017-09-21T00:45:45 < invzim> got an email about altium training in Drammen
2017-09-21T00:45:58 < invzim> any idea who the main customers around that area is?
2017-09-21T00:46:09 < invzim> was under the impression that the 'serious' guys mostly use cadence
2017-09-21T00:46:32 < Laurenceb_> serious guys use eagle for their arduino shield
2017-09-21T00:46:45 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/BLGcYCX
2017-09-21T00:47:05 < zyp> serious how? pretty much all the stuff I've been involved in recently are using eagle
2017-09-21T00:47:24 < zyp> wat
2017-09-21T00:47:27 < zyp> altium*
2017-09-21T00:47:49 < invzim> kongsberg defense and the petro guys
2017-09-21T00:48:37 < Laurenceb_> what
2017-09-21T00:48:47 < Laurenceb_> zyp: u trollin or 4real?
2017-09-21T00:48:54 < Laurenceb_> pro guys use eagle now?
2017-09-21T00:49:02 < zyp> Laurenceb_, you made me typo
2017-09-21T00:49:06 < Laurenceb_> lul ok
2017-09-21T00:49:22 < zyp> I read your sentence while writing mine
2017-09-21T00:49:25 < invzim> http://www.altium.com/events/emea/altium-designer-essentials-training-norway
2017-09-21T00:49:47 < zyp> haha, 2400 EUR
2017-09-21T00:49:47 < invzim> http://www.altium.com/events/emea/altium-designer-advanced-training-norway
2017-09-21T00:49:59 < invzim> lunch better be awsesome :)
2017-09-21T00:52:25 < invzim> I think I can do what I need in Altium, wouldn't mind if someone gave me a free VHDL class tho
2017-09-21T00:52:34 < zyp> I never got any training, I just spent a while dicking around with a design until the project it were supposed to go into got cancelled
2017-09-21T00:53:59 < zyp> and then I did some private stuff as well
2017-09-21T00:54:31 < zyp> if I recall correctly, arcin was the first design I finished in altium
2017-09-21T00:55:40 < karlp> our partners recently switched from altium to pads.
2017-09-21T00:55:45 < karlp> yay, even less compatible.
2017-09-21T00:56:33 < invzim> https://www.youtube.com/user/matarofe/videos
2017-09-21T00:56:44 < invzim> the tip series has quite a few nuggets
2017-09-21T01:06:40 < Laurenceb_> Mexico City was literally shaking
2017-09-21T01:07:35 < karlp> yay, zypsnips updates for one and all.
2017-09-21T01:09:56 < Steffanx> karlp: +_ami_ on #libopencm3 does: https://pastebin.com/izKcPCPR .. paste got killed.
2017-09-21T01:10:54 < zyp> aww
2017-09-21T01:11:11 < karlp> damnit. that's nott the first,
2017-09-21T01:11:18 < karlp> I'm going to have to start saving more things directly.
2017-09-21T01:24:58 < Laurenceb_> product idea: hardware javascript kill button
2017-09-21T01:25:36 < Steffanx> Is Laurenceb_ written in javascript?
2017-09-21T01:25:44 < Laurenceb_> outlook is
2017-09-21T01:25:51 < Laurenceb_> still trying to open an email
2017-09-21T01:25:57 < Steffanx> outlook web stuff?
2017-09-21T01:26:00 < Laurenceb_> yes
2017-09-21T01:26:11 < Steffanx> Here that stuff works like a charm
2017-09-21T01:26:35 < Steffanx> Both free hotmail stuff and work mail
2017-09-21T01:26:46 < Laurenceb_> yeah it used to
2017-09-21T01:27:07 < Laurenceb_> then they "upgraded" it to office365 online or some shit
2017-09-21T01:27:19 < Laurenceb_> oh wow it loaded
2017-09-21T01:27:26 < Laurenceb_> 5minutes/email
2017-09-21T01:27:34 < Steffanx> Maybe the british are monitoring you. They have to get proof to take away your voting rights..
2017-09-21T01:27:59 < Laurenceb_> yeah, I am suspicious they cloned my hard drive
2017-09-21T01:28:27 < Laurenceb_> would explain the disappearing file server
2017-09-21T01:46:42 < Laurenceb_> reee I just want to load sent items
2017-09-21T01:47:37 < Laurenceb_> inb4 someone wrote busy delay loops in javascript
2017-09-21T01:48:59 < Laurenceb_> how is it possible to fail so hard
2017-09-21T01:49:09 < Laurenceb_> oh yeah > miscro$oft
2017-09-21T01:49:26 < Laurenceb_> cpu pegged at 100%
2017-09-21T02:07:52 < Steffanx> Are you sure its ms and not some self-hosted crap?
2017-09-21T02:08:08 < Steffanx> And stop using ie6
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2017-09-21T02:12:59 < englishman> https://streamable.com/p2muw
2017-09-21T02:14:28 < Steffanx> Expected some ##stm32 beer
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2017-09-21T02:28:57 < sync> wow
2017-09-21T02:32:50 < karlp> hardcore
2017-09-21T02:32:53 < karlp> wsn't expecting that
2017-09-21T02:34:07 < ohsix> the text under the video says what happens </that person>
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2017-09-21T02:53:02 < jadew> "How to Fail at Almost Everything" - Recommended for you
2017-09-21T02:53:10 < jadew> thanks youtube!
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2017-09-21T03:17:01 < jadew> hmm, some kfc wouldn't hurt right now
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2017-09-21T05:51:37 < englishlad> hi babe
2017-09-21T06:03:23 < englishman> nonstop innovation of course
2017-09-21T06:06:45 < englishman> dongs what did you do for lipo charging/balancing on your EV
2017-09-21T06:07:02 < englishman> i have to feed the tactical kitten
2017-09-21T06:09:08 < englishman> he's going for his underwater industrial welding cert
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2017-09-21T06:17:55 < stvn> fuckinghell how many more faults will i find with this garbage
2017-09-21T06:22:18 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/nhfd4p5hkxmz.png
2017-09-21T06:23:25 < stvn> innernet here is great
2017-09-21T06:23:33 < stvn> 10 bits a second
2017-09-21T06:24:03 < stvn> supgrdman?
2017-09-21T06:26:22 < upgrdman> feels good to have usable internet now
2017-09-21T06:26:34 < stvn> first step: don't move to australia
2017-09-21T06:26:39 < stvn> 2nd step: keil
2017-09-21T06:26:44 < upgrdman> i keep forgetting that i dont need to plan to web browsing. i can do it live.
2017-09-21T06:26:48 < englishman> lol
2017-09-21T06:26:52 < stvn> cool cool
2017-09-21T06:27:22 < upgrdman> and i can even watch youtube vids live instead of having to youtube-dl and syncthing overnight.
2017-09-21T06:28:15 < stvn> and blogtube again
2017-09-21T06:28:27 < stvn> tell r2 how2hdmi
2017-09-21T06:29:14 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/gfggr8or22nz.jpg
2017-09-21T06:29:31 < englishman> i see you are using your internet bytes well
2017-09-21T06:30:07 < upgrdman> yes
2017-09-21T06:30:12 < upgrdman> i cherish the bytes.
2017-09-21T06:30:31 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/3r4yzexur4nz.jpg
2017-09-21T06:33:10 < dongs> why do faggots still use pascal
2017-09-21T06:33:15 < dongs> fucking garbage
2017-09-21T06:33:25 < dongs> have to interface with some crap written in delphi
2017-09-21T06:33:30 < dongs> struct alignment is wild as fuck
2017-09-21T06:35:21 < englishman> dong what did you find for 18S charger and balancer
2017-09-21T06:35:22 < stvn> ...dephi
2017-09-21T06:35:27  * stvn leaves
2017-09-21T06:35:31 < dongs> englishman: soem crap peterm linked
2017-09-21T06:35:39 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/FuL343S.jpg
2017-09-21T06:35:39 < englishman> nice
2017-09-21T06:35:55 < englishman> beep peterm
2017-09-21T06:36:16 < englishman> leaf cells still hard as fuck to find because there are like 10 leafs in the entire country
2017-09-21T06:37:20 < dongs> but rly anything will work
2017-09-21T06:37:27 < dongs> it was 14S btw
2017-09-21T06:37:28 < dongs> not 18
2017-09-21T06:37:51 < englishman> leaf cells are pretty attractive for size and connections
2017-09-21T06:38:05 < dongs> rly antything will work = re: balancer
2017-09-21T06:38:08 < englishman> ah
2017-09-21T06:38:23 < dongs> and for charger, i had chinagirl pickup some thing that just outputted 14S CV/CC or wahtever
2017-09-21T06:38:29 < dongs> it came fused for 220V
2017-09-21T06:38:36 < dongs> so I had to take it apart and short something
2017-09-21T06:38:38 < dongs> to make it 110
2017-09-21T06:38:40 < englishman> oh so one of those passive balance/protection boards
2017-09-21T06:38:43 < englishman> with enough ampz
2017-09-21T06:38:46 < dongs> yes
2017-09-21T06:38:49 < dongs> and just random external charger
2017-09-21T06:39:05 < dongs> mine came wiht some LCD with a STM32 in it
2017-09-21T06:39:18 < englishman> 18S means i can use 3 6S cells
2017-09-21T06:39:21 < englishman> wonder if itl blow
2017-09-21T06:39:25 < dongs> it will
2017-09-21T06:39:26 < englishman> got any pics of the esc?
2017-09-21T06:39:30 < englishman> hmhm
2017-09-21T06:39:30 < dongs> even 14S is pushing it
2017-09-21T06:39:33 < dongs> esc is garbage
2017-09-21T06:39:43 < englishman> at least its brushless
2017-09-21T06:39:43 < dongs> 6AS cells you mean RC stuff?
2017-09-21T06:39:50 < englishman> yea
2017-09-21T06:40:11 < englishman> i still have a few dozen 4500mah 6s
2017-09-21T06:40:36 < dongs> i switched all my shit to that 10Ah stuff
2017-09-21T06:40:39 < dongs> fucking awesome packs
2017-09-21T06:40:54 < dongs> or was it 20
2017-09-21T06:40:56 < upgrdman> dongs, you flying quads or something?
2017-09-21T06:41:11 < englishman> https://hobbyking.com/en_us/multistar-high-capacity-6s-20000mah-multi-rotor-lipo-pack.html
2017-09-21T06:41:36 < dongs> ya that kinda shit
2017-09-21T06:41:44 < dongs> whats wat I got in my spawns bike, just that thing by itself
2017-09-21T06:41:52 < dongs> except 4S version i think
2017-09-21T06:42:05 < dongs> upgrdman: hell no
2017-09-21T06:42:27 < upgrdman> lol
2017-09-21T06:42:37 < dongs> hmm no, i think it is 6S
2017-09-21T06:42:43 < dongs> cuz thats 24V or whatever
2017-09-21T06:44:08 < dongs> anyway
2017-09-21T06:44:17 < dongs> the esc in the quad is not gonna do over 60V
2017-09-21T06:44:22 < dongs> so 14S is the max
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2017-09-21T06:57:25 < stvn> DBK1376
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2017-09-21T07:24:24 < englishman> not that expensive to upgrade past 4kW
2017-09-21T07:24:28 < englishman> once battery is replaced
2017-09-21T07:26:37 < stvn> can i see it
2017-09-21T07:27:34 < dongs> to some ebike esc?
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2017-09-21T07:30:31 < englishman> dont think any ebike gets close to 4kW
2017-09-21T07:32:06 < stvn> innovate it
2017-09-21T07:32:36 < englishman> 20kW is still small scale not too spendy https://i.imgur.com/p52mvXX.jpg
2017-09-21T07:34:17 < stvn> kamikaze 20kw system by englishman
2017-09-21T07:34:29 < dongs> lol water cooling
2017-09-21T07:42:24 < stvn> need water cooled amplifier\
2017-09-21T07:46:04 < englishman> sounds like innovation
2017-09-21T07:48:32 < englishman> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1041610927/znaps-the-9-magnetic-adapter-for-your-mobile-devic/comments
2017-09-21T07:48:38 < englishman> i hereby invoke
2017-09-21T07:48:40 < englishman> DICKSTARTER
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2017-09-21T07:52:37 < englishman> apparently same people that did arist
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2017-09-21T07:54:05 < stvn> too many jog wheels to rebuild
2017-09-21T08:02:36 < dongs> https://ghostbin.com/paste/poxwf
2017-09-21T08:08:12 < stvn> rimjobs rofl
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2017-09-21T09:15:23 < zyp> that's some realistic training
2017-09-21T09:18:13 < englishman> guy makes a foam rc plane.. designer of that plane shows up to offer feedback http://forum.flitetest.com/showthread.php?36950-*Unofficial*-FT-X-29
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2017-09-21T09:31:03 < zyp> nice
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2017-09-21T11:03:45 < ohsix> boop
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2017-09-21T11:44:20 < ohsix> pros, need to put some wiring in a door jamb and there isn't a boot already there, wire can move on either side; wat 2 do
2017-09-21T11:44:56 < ohsix> naive idea is that i have a tube or the wire fixed at one end, and let it move in and out freely on the other, but if that binds ever it's going to get caught in the door
2017-09-21T11:45:55 < ohsix> it's an flat aluminum door and aluminum frame, old semi / rv panel style; the channel around the door that holds the weatherstripping has a large void, that's where any wire or boot would go
2017-09-21T11:47:15 < ohsix> fishing for any, even wild ideas about how to do it, cuz there's no great way
2017-09-21T11:52:25 < ohsix> it's kind of cool how shit rv's are; apprehension over mods and stuff is just unwarranted
2017-09-21T11:54:05 < ohsix> hm i could put a weak spring to pull on the wire a bit
2017-09-21T11:56:51 < zyp> ohsix, you want to run a wire between the door and the frame?
2017-09-21T12:00:43 < ohsix> yea
2017-09-21T12:00:57 < ohsix> it's getting tow mirrors and they have lights on them, wiring them up
2017-09-21T12:01:11 < ohsix> there's an existing cutout in the frame but no boot
2017-09-21T12:03:04 < ohsix> the door jamb & door <2" thick, and the channel is like half an inch; if there was space for a normal door jamb boot to work i'd use one; but it's likely to bind in the door just from being slack
2017-09-21T12:04:51 < ohsix> hmm
2017-09-21T12:05:21 < ohsix> i guess i could deliberately let it droop on the door side, if the holes are offset vertically they'd tend to stay straight when i close it
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2017-09-21T12:41:07 < dongs> hopefully that wire is live with 110V AC
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2017-09-21T13:21:55 < upgrdman> looking at houses and spot this. lol, guy has four tv's. https://photos.zillowstatic.com/p_f/IS2fo7yhc4o48w1000000000.jpg
2017-09-21T13:22:20 < upgrdman> i wonder if he's one of us, using them as monitors instead
2017-09-21T13:22:53 < fest> probably gambling on multiple sports at the same time
2017-09-21T13:23:02 < Fleck> ;p
2017-09-21T13:27:28 < Steffanx> Wonder if the cabling is in the wall or if that removed them for the photo
2017-09-21T13:27:42 < Steffanx> *they
2017-09-21T13:28:05 < dongs> so you can watch 4 dumb americans shows at once
2017-09-21T13:31:57 < karlp> black leather, absolutely no decorations at all, yeah, I'm with fest, dude's a gambler, currently still above water
2017-09-21T13:32:33 < Steffanx> The average yankee isn't really into decoration right?
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2017-09-21T13:35:00 < karlp> their wives are
2017-09-21T13:35:10 < karlp> heavy sports gambler migth have lost/never gained one
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2017-09-21T13:39:00 < upgrdman> Steffanx, depends on the person. but that guy's house decor looks ugly AF to me too.
2017-09-21T13:39:18 < upgrdman> but my decor is nonexistant, so whatevs
2017-09-21T13:42:02 < upgrdman> anyone in the usa and used uber or lyft? is it decent or shit?
2017-09-21T13:45:49 < zyp> I've used uber in .be, pretty decent
2017-09-21T13:46:03 < upgrdman> .be == ?
2017-09-21T13:46:06 < zyp> belgium
2017-09-21T13:46:09 < upgrdman> ah
2017-09-21T13:46:46 < zyp> was integrated with google maps, so I just ordered a car directly from google maps
2017-09-21T13:49:08 < upgrdman> nice
2017-09-21T13:51:07 < Steffanx> But not blame zyp when shit goes wrong because you went for it because zyp had great experience in a totally different country :P
2017-09-21T13:51:56 < zyp> haha
2017-09-21T13:52:16 < zyp> idk, it sounds to me like people generally have good experiences with uber
2017-09-21T13:52:24 < zyp> where it's available
2017-09-21T13:52:53 < fest> to add one more datapoint, I have good experience using local uber clone in yet another country :>
2017-09-21T13:53:16 < karlp> everything about uber is fine except for their owner right?
2017-09-21T13:53:26 < karlp> and he finally agreed to step down from daily operations?
2017-09-21T13:54:05 < Steffanx> and its not that great for the driver either... ( at least that's what i read sometimes)
2017-09-21T13:55:40 < upgrdman> sounds good to me. i don't want to be their driver ;)
2017-09-21T13:55:41 < karlp> well, like most modern "innovations" it's designed to drive down wages and push costs away from the "entrepreneur" and onto other people wherever possible
2017-09-21T13:56:00 < Steffanx> hehe
2017-09-21T14:01:07 < Steffanx> Are you referring to UberPop  service or Uber btw?
2017-09-21T14:02:42 < Steffanx> i believe uberpop is forbidden in this country due to the strict rules when "playing" taxi driver.
2017-09-21T14:03:40 < Steffanx> Not sure if there is a real difference though.
2017-09-21T14:07:00 < zyp> adaptions to local regulations and loopholes
2017-09-21T14:10:43 < upgrdman> dafuq's uberpoop
2017-09-21T14:12:10 < Steffanx> i believe uberpop is for everyone and random people. While uber people are employed by uber. At least thats how i believe iti s in this country.
2017-09-21T14:12:16 < Steffanx> uberpop people dont need a license.
2017-09-21T14:14:45 < ReadErr> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/0NJ0L99a/kim.png
2017-09-21T14:14:49 < ReadErr> shame colors are off...
2017-09-21T14:15:58 < dongs> is there an opensores SWIM thing
2017-09-21T14:16:01 < dongs> for stm8
2017-09-21T14:16:17 < dongs> oh my, there is
2017-09-21T14:16:38 < dongs> https://github.com/vdudouyt/stm8flash
2017-09-21T14:16:51 < dongs> hmm
2017-09-21T14:16:55 < dongs> but i think that just uses stdink
2017-09-21T14:17:10 < dongs> i would need buttbang version
2017-09-21T14:19:28 < Steffanx> but a real pro stlink that does swim.. why mess with open sores?
2017-09-21T14:19:31 < Steffanx> *buy
2017-09-21T14:19:49 < dongs> no, its for a programming jig
2017-09-21T14:19:54 < Steffanx> that thing is like.. $20 max?
2017-09-21T14:20:00 < dongs> as in no computer involved
2017-09-21T14:20:06 < Steffanx> achso.
2017-09-21T14:20:22 < Steffanx> That changes it a bit.
2017-09-21T14:20:28 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/user_manual/ca/89/41/4e/72/31/49/f4/CD00173911.pdf/files/CD00173911.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00173911.pdf
2017-09-21T14:20:36 < dongs> why hasnt any opensores dweeb just implemented this yet
2017-09-21T14:20:39 < dongs> cant be THAT hard
2017-09-21T14:21:42 < Steffanx> i cannot image someone didnt do it
2017-09-21T14:22:11 < upgrdman> ReadErr, when i was in cn i got to unexpectedly experience air raid sirens when at my hotel. first thought in my mind was "i though china and best korea were friends"
2017-09-21T14:22:27 < upgrdman> turns out they were just testing their systems.
2017-09-21T14:22:46 < dongs> https://sourceforge.net/p/stm32f100tostm8s105swimlibrary/wiki/Home/
2017-09-21T14:22:47 < dongs> fuck yes.
2017-09-21T14:22:47 < ReadErr> lol ya lets see how all this transpires
2017-09-21T14:22:53 < ReadErr> if you die dongs can I have ur paypal accnt
2017-09-21T14:23:07 < ReadErr> like just shoot me the info when you have a few minutes left
2017-09-21T14:23:08 < dongs> >  Timing is done with NOP instruction
2017-09-21T14:23:11 < ReadErr> <3
2017-09-21T14:23:34 < upgrdman> ReadErr, i recorded a clip of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtbuY-vz3Ek
2017-09-21T14:23:37 < dongs> ok looks good
2017-09-21T14:23:54 < ReadErr> creepy sounding
2017-09-21T14:24:35 < Steffanx> Dont they test the sires in yankeeland upgrdman? Here they get tested every first mnonday of the month around 12.00
2017-09-21T14:25:02 < upgrdman> Steffanx, iirc we dont have any in so cal
2017-09-21T14:25:06 < ReadErr> tornado ones here
2017-09-21T14:25:10 < upgrdman> we dont get hurricanes
2017-09-21T14:25:22 < ReadErr> well u dont have hurricane sirens anyways :)
2017-09-21T14:25:23 < upgrdman> and our military is bestest, so nothing to worry about on that front ;)
2017-09-21T14:25:24 < Steffanx> Neither do we, but we have them all over the country.
2017-09-21T14:25:24 < ReadErr> nobody does
2017-09-21T14:26:02 < Steffanx> but dutch ones doesnt sound as nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgikHLs_DLs
2017-09-21T14:27:23 < upgrdman> lol that sounds like the circuit i made as a kid on one of those 100-in-1 Electronic Project Labs
2017-09-21T14:27:33 < upgrdman> shitting ramp oscillator
2017-09-21T14:27:36 < upgrdman> shitty*
2017-09-21T14:27:40 < Steffanx> :)
2017-09-21T14:28:09 < Steffanx> *dont
2017-09-21T14:29:26 < Steffanx> but they have plans to phase them out anyway. And use the gsm network as alert system. ( worst choice ever imho)
2017-09-21T14:29:41 < upgrdman> why would that be bad
2017-09-21T14:29:50 < upgrdman> wtf doesnt have a cell phone these days
2017-09-21T14:30:03 < Steffanx> because it all depends on the phone you use if it works or not.
2017-09-21T14:30:04 < dongs> gsm?
2017-09-21T14:30:18 < upgrdman> in fact, i think thats how we do emergency alerts now that i think about it
2017-09-21T14:30:23 < Steffanx> In my case, for example, i never received such alert message when they tested it.
2017-09-21T14:30:26 < Steffanx> as in NEVER
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2017-09-21T14:30:37 < dongs> haha, found this
2017-09-21T14:30:37 < dongs> ScaleCube
2017-09-21T14:30:37 < dongs> scalecube.io/
2017-09-21T14:30:38 < dongs> Welcome to ScaleCube open source project! ... It is running Java implementation of SWIM protocol for distributed group membership, with a few minor
2017-09-21T14:30:42 < dongs> fucking useless
2017-09-21T14:30:44 < upgrdman> i've gotten Amber Alert shits on my phone, and once i got a flash flood warning on my phone.
2017-09-21T14:30:56 < Steffanx> ios much?
2017-09-21T14:31:03 < upgrdman> fuck no, android
2017-09-21T14:31:09 < upgrdman> note 5 duos FTW
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2017-09-21T14:33:37 < ReadErr> iphone X
2017-09-21T14:33:40 < ReadErr> mm
2017-09-21T14:34:08 < upgrdman> ReadErr, as much as i hate iphones, the x has 4k60 video. 60fps... fuck yes.
2017-09-21T14:34:22 < ReadErr> brah, it blows the shit out of anything else out
2017-09-21T14:34:37 < ReadErr> in terms of raw power
2017-09-21T14:34:43 < Steffanx> and it only costs like > $1-fucking-k
2017-09-21T14:34:46 < dongs> upgrdman: what, any consumer 4K cam have been doing 4kp60 for years now
2017-09-21T14:34:49 < dongs> with better optics
2017-09-21T14:34:58 < dongs> what the fuck who gives a shit that gayphone does 4k with a garbage lens
2017-09-21T14:35:00 < ReadErr> Steffanx: ya but look at how much a high end android is
2017-09-21T14:35:05 < fest> the thing I have hard-on is ARKit
2017-09-21T14:35:06 < dongs> my 4K cam can do 20x optical zoom
2017-09-21T14:35:11 < ReadErr> dongs: they actually have OIS on it too
2017-09-21T14:35:12 < upgrdman> on my note 5 duos i've never felt low on processing power. worst that happens is i actually use the cpu and my phone gets warm :/
2017-09-21T14:35:17 < Steffanx> dont compare ios to android, you cannot do that.
2017-09-21T14:35:30 < ReadErr> Steffanx: im saying in terms of hardware price
2017-09-21T14:35:33 < ReadErr> not OS
2017-09-21T14:35:39 < upgrdman> dongs, can your 4k do 60fps?
2017-09-21T14:35:44 < dongs> yeah?
2017-09-21T14:35:50 < upgrdman> which cam
2017-09-21T14:35:50 < ReadErr> on your phone?
2017-09-21T14:36:04 < ReadErr> phone is the best camera
2017-09-21T14:36:07 < ReadErr> since you always have it
2017-09-21T14:36:15 < ReadErr> who carries around another camera
2017-09-21T14:36:28 < upgrdman> proper camera still have their uses
2017-09-21T14:36:32 < upgrdman> like when you want quality
2017-09-21T14:36:38 < dongs> 4K 60p/50p 150M: 3840x2160, Average 150Mbps (VBR), LPCM
2017-09-21T14:36:40 < ReadErr> well sure
2017-09-21T14:36:41 < upgrdman> but ya, phone cams are very important
2017-09-21T14:36:49 < upgrdman> dongs, which cam
2017-09-21T14:36:50 < ReadErr> but a camera on you is much more valuable
2017-09-21T14:36:51 < dongs> http://shop.panasonic.com/cameras-and-camcorders/camcorders/HC-X1000.html
2017-09-21T14:36:53 < dongs> its old by now
2017-09-21T14:36:56 < ReadErr> when you need it
2017-09-21T14:37:06 < ReadErr> 240fps mode too
2017-09-21T14:37:10 < ReadErr> pretty kewt
2017-09-21T14:37:30 < upgrdman> dongs, is that fixed lense or ef or ?
2017-09-21T14:37:45 < ReadErr> I want to be the pile of shit emoji
2017-09-21T14:37:48 < ReadErr> thats all
2017-09-21T14:38:28 < upgrdman> ya that is kinda sweet
2017-09-21T14:38:28 < dongs> upgrdman: fixed, but doesnt bother me. i dont think pana ever made anything changeable. anyway, t his thing is old, pretty much any consumer 4K cam doesd 4k60
2017-09-21T14:38:49 < upgrdman> dongs, i wish canon would stop be douche bags with their DSLRs
2017-09-21T14:39:08 < ReadErr> https://thenextweb.com/apple/2017/09/12/apples-new-iphone-x-already-destroying-android-devices-g/
2017-09-21T14:39:55 < Laurenceb>  > geekbench
2017-09-21T14:40:03 < upgrdman> ReadErr, lol at screenshot "ARM @ 24MHz"
2017-09-21T14:40:40 < upgrdman> but srsly, with any flagship phone... when are you short on processing power?
2017-09-21T14:40:54 < dongs> apple needs that singlethread performance
2017-09-21T14:41:00 < Laurenceb> totally not fake
2017-09-21T14:41:01 < dongs> because evn in 2017 their shit is all singlethreaded
2017-09-21T14:41:11 < Laurenceb> the current year
2017-09-21T14:41:19 < dongs> lol osx lol spinning beachball
2017-09-21T14:42:51 < karlp> dongs: you mean http://openocd.zylin.com/#/c/3952/ ? (SWIM support and stm8)
2017-09-21T14:43:09 < dongs> karlp: no
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2017-09-21T14:43:14 < dongs> thats using SWIM over stlink usb
2017-09-21T14:43:16 < karlp> also https://github.com/afaerber/stlink
2017-09-21T14:43:19 < dongs> im talking about raw bitbanging swim
2017-09-21T14:43:23 < dongs> yeah, all those is not it
2017-09-21T14:43:28 < dongs> my last wiki link was the stuff i needed
2017-09-21T14:43:38 < dongs> uses gpio + timer to clock out / read swim stuff
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2017-09-21T15:02:09 < Laurenceb> https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-41171196
2017-09-21T15:03:17 < karlp> no one fucking needs to see more pidgin links numbnuts
2017-09-21T15:03:25 < karlp> it's a language, deal with it.
2017-09-21T15:03:35 < dongs> yea wut
2017-09-21T15:07:47 < Thorn> is this correct Engrish? order #999 dated(?) June 30, 2017
2017-09-21T15:07:57 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-21T15:08:23 < dongs> have its origin at a particular time; have existed since.
2017-09-21T15:08:23 < dongs> "the controversy dates back to 1986"
2017-09-21T15:08:23 < dongs> synonyms:	was made in, was built in, originates in, comes from, belongs to, goes back to
2017-09-21T15:08:26 < dongs> "the building dates from the sixteenth century"
2017-09-21T15:08:51 < Thorn> or is there a more common way of saying it (specifically about orders, letters etc.)
2017-09-21T15:09:00 < karlp> looks fine to me.
2017-09-21T15:09:06 < dongs> you could say order xx placed on <date>
2017-09-21T15:09:21 < dongs> but dated is fine i think.
2017-09-21T15:09:31 < Thorn> ok thanks
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2017-09-21T15:52:57 < ReadErr> upgrdman: imagine its since its not in the database yet
2017-09-21T15:57:22 < englishman> karlp: every uber driver ive talked to absolutely loves it
2017-09-21T16:01:31 < karlp> depends what they were doing before at least partly?
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2017-09-21T17:37:15 < Laurenceb> images still coming through http://ssdv.habhub.org/
2017-09-21T17:37:50 < Steffanx> wrong channel?
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2017-09-21T18:14:07 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/ w00t tabs working
2017-09-21T18:14:14 < Rob235> that took a while to figure out
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2017-09-21T18:27:22 < c10ud> do you think stm32f411 is valid choice for a project requiring 15+ low speed adcs?
2017-09-21T18:27:50 < c10ud> i see the l476 series is somehow better but costs almost twice
2017-09-21T18:28:16 < englishman> yes great choice, grab a discovery board and get going
2017-09-21T18:28:32 < englishman> L series is lowpower stuff, much more niche and expensive
2017-09-21T18:29:43 < c10ud> i see, i used 401 before, 411 seems just a little more powrful
2017-09-21T18:30:15 < c10ud> ide wise is eclipse+discovery dbg easy to get going? I used iar free but i don't know if this application can stay under 32kb
2017-09-21T18:30:25 < englishman> still the same "access line" of low end chips iirc
2017-09-21T18:30:31 < englishman> there are too many F4 to choose from
2017-09-21T18:30:38 < englishman> still very powerful
2017-09-21T18:31:01 < englishman> some people get System Workbench or whatever working well, yeah
2017-09-21T18:31:02 < c10ud> yeah, I just want to make sure I'm not choosing some eol chip
2017-09-21T18:31:39 < c10ud> thanks englishman I'll look into that
2017-09-21T18:31:40 < englishman> if you just want ADCs some F0 might be right up your alley
2017-09-21T18:31:43 < englishman> then you can use free keil
2017-09-21T18:31:49 < englishman> for >32kb
2017-09-21T18:32:03 < c10ud> yup i know
2017-09-21T18:32:17 < c10ud> but i'm not really sure on power requirements (as in raw processing power)
2017-09-21T18:32:35 < englishman> F072Rx or Vx will have 16 ext adcs
2017-09-21T18:32:49 < c10ud> I might have to do some dsp, and even if using 15 channels at low speed maybe there's no room for processing on f0?
2017-09-21T18:33:01 < c10ud> that's why I didn't think of that line
2017-09-21T18:33:07 < englishman> depends, its still faster than atmega328p
2017-09-21T18:33:12 < c10ud> but I didn't read the datasheets so I might be wrong
2017-09-21T18:34:08 < c10ud> lol well I got 76khz sampling from a 328p with little to no post-processing and it was almost full so..
2017-09-21T18:34:08 < c10ud> lol
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2017-09-21T18:35:57 < englishman> nonissue with stm32 dma
2017-09-21T18:36:22 < Cracki_> has anyone mentioned that ADCs can have multiple channels (source pins)...
2017-09-21T18:36:57 < Cracki_> so 15 channels serviced by maybe a handful of adcs
2017-09-21T18:37:40 < c10ud> englishman, but cmsis-ing on 15 channels..
2017-09-21T18:37:43 < Cracki_> what kinda dsp do you expect
2017-09-21T18:37:45 < c10ud> yes, f4 is 1xadc
2017-09-21T18:38:08 < c10ud> i don't know yet, but some band-pass along with maybe some rescaling of the values
2017-09-21T18:38:31 < c10ud> and *maybe* some magnitude measurement (or fft)?
2017-09-21T18:38:36 < c10ud> that's why I was thinking of f4
2017-09-21T18:38:46 < c10ud> frequencies should be < 1khz
2017-09-21T18:38:54 < englishman> in that case fpu will help you out
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2017-09-21T18:39:11 < englishman> pee term
2017-09-21T18:39:22 < Cracki_> was f3 eol? I think some f3 had fpus too
2017-09-21T18:39:28 < Cracki_> (because m4f core)
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2017-09-21T18:56:36 < Steffanx> there is no stm32 eol afaik
2017-09-21T18:58:56 < Steffanx> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/support/resources/product-longevity.html all of them 10 years starting January 1st 2017
2017-09-21T18:59:21 < englishman> longer than Tesla!
2017-09-21T19:00:06 < Steffanx> No one cares about
2017-09-21T19:00:07 < Steffanx> Telsa
2017-09-21T19:00:38 < englishman> correct. no stm32 content
2017-09-21T19:00:44 < englishman> already obsolete garbage
2017-09-21T19:05:21 < englishman> is there a gerbv that uses windows native file picker
2017-09-21T19:05:31 < englishman> cant stand this shit interface
2017-09-21T19:05:44 < englishman> gerbview isnt the same thing its much worse
2017-09-21T19:05:47 < Steffanx> gerblook.org pretty native file picker :P
2017-09-21T19:06:07 < englishman> emailing them NDA now
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2017-09-21T19:06:19 < englishman> Error 502 Ray ID: 3a1e453735613fb9 • 2017-09-21 16:06:12 UTC
2017-09-21T19:06:19 < englishman> Bad gateway
2017-09-21T19:06:21 < englishman> rip gerblook
2017-09-21T19:06:35 < Steffanx> works for me (tm)
2017-09-21T19:06:41 < englishman> upload something
2017-09-21T19:06:55 < englishman> Couldn't find top soldermask layer.
2017-09-21T19:06:56 < englishman> oh fuck off
2017-09-21T19:06:58 < englishman> page closed
2017-09-21T19:07:04 < Steffanx> "GerbLook (this website) has been sold and will soon be hosted by a new owner, the code remains on Github" -_-
2017-09-21T19:07:08 < englishman> whats the point of calling it GERB LOOK
2017-09-21T19:07:08 < Steffanx> probably why
2017-09-21T19:07:10 < Steffanx> the faggots.
2017-09-21T19:07:11 < englishman> if you cannot LOOK at GERB
2017-09-21T19:07:12 < englishman> idiots
2017-09-21T19:08:06 < Steffanx> have a bad day mr englishman?
2017-09-21T19:08:11 < englishman> not yet
2017-09-21T19:08:13 < englishman> going great
2017-09-21T19:14:30 < Thorn> I'm receiving a weird AD struct in an ADV_IND packet: Len 7 Type ff: 4c 00 10 02 0b 00
2017-09-21T19:14:45 < Thorn> I think it's a neighbour's device, not mine
2017-09-21T19:14:57 < Thorn> wtf could it be
2017-09-21T19:15:26 < Thorn> and Len 19 Type ff: 4c 00 0c 0e 00 69 91 9e 4b 6f db 76 37 cb ed aa 72 99
2017-09-21T19:15:39 < Thorn> (it's not an iBeacon)
2017-09-21T19:16:40 < Steffanx> install the tooling on your phone and the logger?
2017-09-21T19:16:56 < Steffanx> it'll give you some useful info, maybe?
2017-09-21T19:17:39 < Thorn> unless it's going to send scan requests, I'm seeing everything it can see
2017-09-21T19:18:51 < Thorn> well I'm not printing mac addresses yet, those might ID the vendor
2017-09-21T19:19:36 < karlp> c10ud: L1 also has lots of external adcs.
2017-09-21T19:20:26 < Thorn> also fuck nordick SDK with a plunger, I wasted 30 mins adding libraries to makefile and #defines to sdk_config.h just to make printf() print via the uart
2017-09-21T19:20:49 < c10ud> karlp, I think one adc is fine for me, sweeping between all channels
2017-09-21T19:21:52 < karlp> no I mean, L1 has lots of extgernal channels available,
2017-09-21T19:22:00 < karlp> more so for the same packagte size than f1 and friends.
2017-09-21T19:22:05 < c10ud> ah ok
2017-09-21T19:22:55 < c10ud> rebooting for gnu-mcu-eclipse java install, let's see..
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2017-09-21T19:23:07 < Steffanx> reboot, wut?
2017-09-21T19:31:21 < englishman> omg gerbview 7 is awesome
2017-09-21T19:35:05 < Steffanx> it has your most favourite ribbon
2017-09-21T19:35:07 < Steffanx> must be pro sw
2017-09-21T19:35:39 < englishman> pentalogix
2017-09-21T19:35:40 < englishman> cam350
2017-09-21T19:35:45 < englishman> all using old shit interface
2017-09-21T19:35:54 < englishman> gerbview 7 is literally only one with proper file picker
2017-09-21T19:36:03 < englishman> even has dragdrop support
2017-09-21T19:36:35 < Thorn> the payload actually changes every few seconds
2017-09-21T19:37:52 < Laurenceb> basement lair funtimes
2017-09-21T19:38:52 < Laurenceb> I can go all week without seeing the sun
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2017-09-21T19:54:52 < englishman> https://gfycat.com/UnlawfulHauntingCopperhead
2017-09-21T19:54:53 < englishman> god damn
2017-09-21T19:54:57 < englishman> americans are fat as fuck
2017-09-21T20:13:52 < gxti> to be fair handegg is the sport specifically designed for fat people to run into each other repeatedly so there's going to be an above average amount of them
2017-09-21T20:13:56 < gxti> but yes
2017-09-21T20:15:25 < englishman> a game scientifically designed to maximize television ad revenue
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2017-09-21T20:21:07 < BrainDamage> don't forget the super toilet bowl
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2017-09-21T20:28:28 < Steffanx> Yeah, sounds like yankeeland. An entire country going to shit.
2017-09-21T20:30:57 < Steffanx> Can we laugh about your patent yet BrainDamage? Or is that still wip?
2017-09-21T20:37:27 < BrainDamage> WIP, and i really doubt I'd ever link it here
2017-09-21T20:37:36 < BrainDamage> I'm not too keen on self doxxing
2017-09-21T20:38:33 < Steffanx> :P
2017-09-21T20:38:55 < Steffanx> Sounds like a good idea, yes
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2017-09-21T20:40:09 < upgrdman_> lol https://slashdot.org/story/17/09/20/1424206/amazon-reviewing-its-website-after-it-suggested-bomb-making-items
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2017-09-21T20:41:22 < Thorn> did they ban hackrf already
2017-09-21T20:42:12 < englishman> hacker-f
2017-09-21T20:44:09 < Steffanx> en-glish-man ..
2017-09-21T20:45:35 < zyp> englitchman
2017-09-21T20:46:36 < Thorn> that BLE thing has changed its payload several times very quickly and disappeared
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2017-09-21T20:46:54 < Thorn> I now have my own Tabby's star
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2017-09-21T20:51:13 < englishman> https://coin-hive.com/
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2017-09-21T20:51:21 < Thorn> WT0xFF
2017-09-21T20:51:38 < Thorn> it's back
2017-09-21T20:51:44 < Thorn> could it be wearable?
2017-09-21T20:52:02 < Thorn> someone is moving around while wearing it
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2017-09-21T20:56:33 < Steffanx> did the nrf toolkit sniffer tell you really nothing?
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2017-09-21T21:05:50 < Thorn> my windows pc is in another room, it can't see the WTF device
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2017-09-21T21:07:49 < Steffanx> thats why i have it on my phone as an android app, worked pretty nice for me
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2017-09-21T21:12:02 < Thorn> nrf toolbox?
2017-09-21T21:12:22 < Steffanx> not sure what its called, but its in the playstore
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2017-09-21T21:15:21 < Thorn> http://cs5-3.4pda.to/10498405.png where is the sniffer
2017-09-21T21:15:30 < Thorn> (I have 1 more icon but it's not sniffer either)
2017-09-21T21:16:38 < Steffanx> oh it might not have been the toolkit then :P
2017-09-21T21:16:42 < Steffanx> let me grab my phone
2017-09-21T21:17:28 < Steffanx> nrf connect looks more like it
2017-09-21T21:17:42 < Steffanx> there is also this logger, but not sure how useful it is
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2017-09-21T22:36:12 < ohsix> englishman: i wonder if there's a gerber to psd / xcf / tiff converter (multi layer images)
2017-09-21T22:38:11 < ohsix> ah, gerbview7 can do tiff
2017-09-21T22:39:55 < ohsix> BrainDamage: patent in what area?
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2017-09-21T22:55:21 < Thorn> patent trolling
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2017-09-21T23:14:56 < invzim> man, would be nice to have a physical store or national on-line store where you could get stuff for prototyping without being ass-raped
2017-09-21T23:20:37 < Laurenceb_> if you live in uk you can go to maplin
2017-09-21T23:20:39 < Laurenceb_> oh wait
2017-09-21T23:22:47 < Laurenceb_> https://royalsociety.org/grants-schemes-awards/book-prizes/science-book-prize/2017/testosterone-rex/
2017-09-21T23:23:13 < Laurenceb_> > born in Canada
2017-09-21T23:23:30 < Laurenceb_> > psychologist
2017-09-21T23:36:11 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/910208312964239362/S_k4ZMJp?format=jpg&name=600x314
2017-09-21T23:53:40 < invzim> yay, sorted through lcsc.com :)
2017-09-21T23:54:03 < invzim> zyp: $23.67
2017-09-21T23:54:08 < invzim> for DHL shipping
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2017-09-22T00:20:17 < englishman> wow google
2017-09-22T00:20:28 < englishman> doing simple math in the search bar now gives you pown results
2017-09-22T00:23:00 < Laurenceb_> not as bad as russian grrrl in my lair
2017-09-22T00:23:28 < Laurenceb_> she cracked the it admin password and was searching all the workstations for amateur pronz
2017-09-22T00:24:09 < Laurenceb_> and I was worried about browsing 4chan at work
2017-09-22T00:24:28 < englishman> did your boss find out youre a chatter yet
2017-09-22T00:25:16 < Laurenceb_> nope
2017-09-22T00:27:13 < Laurenceb_> she found a video of 2 mexicans at it
2017-09-22T00:27:17 < Laurenceb_> shits nasty man
2017-09-22T00:34:30 < Laurenceb_> http://quillette.com/2017/03/21/cordelia-fines-testosterone-rex-a-review/
2017-09-22T00:34:33 < Laurenceb_> lolowned
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2017-09-22T00:50:37 < Cracki_> like the pun
2017-09-22T00:52:18 < englishman> omg fuck samtec
2017-09-22T00:52:33 < englishman> i wish i could run such a huge business so shittily and still be able to swim in cash
2017-09-22T01:03:03 < Steffanx> lol i only hear bad stories about samtec.
2017-09-22T01:03:12 < Steffanx> great connectors but good luck getting them
2017-09-22T01:06:29 < englishman> pretty much
2017-09-22T01:06:48 < englishman> Lux: neo-m8p does not support L2, so theres that
2017-09-22T01:08:07 < englishman> makes up for it by using other constellations i guess
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2017-09-22T01:19:28 < Lux> interesting, that they are still worse despite that
2017-09-22T01:19:39 < Lux> didn't see they use l2 aswell
2017-09-22T01:20:10 < Lux> maybe they can compensate with glonass and beidu, those are in different frequencies too
2017-09-22T01:20:37 < englishman> exactly
2017-09-22T01:21:01 < englishman> L2 seems to be a meme tho
2017-09-22T01:21:06 < englishman> "pff it doesnt support L2"
2017-09-22T01:21:17 < englishman> sigh.
2017-09-22T01:22:12 < Laurenceb_> https://testosteronecivilization.com/
2017-09-22T01:22:19 < Laurenceb_> wtf url delivers wtf
2017-09-22T01:33:12 < Lux> apparently l2 should give you a factor of >2 in accuracy: http://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/#how-accurate
2017-09-22T01:33:37 < Lux> but that's gps only
2017-09-22T01:36:14 < englishman> right
2017-09-22T01:44:59 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/hwBD8Fw
2017-09-22T01:56:23 < ohsix> lul f'ing with surface mount connector i've only got one of for like an hour to get it ready for placing on again
2017-09-22T01:56:37 < ohsix> finally thought of getting it hot and throwing it at the floor; boom, no solder left anywhere
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2017-09-22T01:59:33 < karlp> huh, my only issue with samtec was they chose to ship the parts I orded in a jumbo 1.2m long triangle tube thing, for like 20x 2mm headers
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2017-09-22T02:00:22 < Laurenceb_> RONALD BLUMPF
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2017-09-22T02:22:39 < englishman> apparently every single thing they make is made-to-order
2017-09-22T02:23:02 < englishman> and the quoted lead time is 5 days even if they have none of the components in stock and they take 2 months to get
2017-09-22T02:23:17 < englishman> exactly karlp
2017-09-22T02:23:32 < englishman> a small company big enough to waste money like the big boys
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2017-09-22T02:34:22 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKSLwuWUIAAc0FZ.jpg
2017-09-22T02:34:40 < stvn> good morning laurence
2017-09-22T02:36:12 < Laurenceb_> sup
2017-09-22T02:38:20 < stvn> muh dick
2017-09-22T02:38:32 < stvn> nah
2017-09-22T02:38:36 < stvn> just doing some fixing
2017-09-22T02:42:21 < Laurenceb_> Russian hackers
2017-09-22T02:42:39 < Laurenceb_> Russian grrl literally hacked our wurk lan
2017-09-22T02:43:39 < Laurenceb_> lots of pronz on some shared drives
2017-09-22T02:44:50 < stvn> cp dump on the work pcs
2017-09-22T02:44:56 < stvn> they're creating a pedo ring
2017-09-22T02:46:08 < Laurenceb_> it was nasty amateur stuff
2017-09-22T02:46:30 < Laurenceb_> as long as she keeps her chair to herself
2017-09-22T02:46:43 < stvn> gnaa did it
2017-09-22T02:47:09 < Laurenceb_> I'm just gunna browse 4chan at wurk now
2017-09-22T02:47:15 < stvn> cool
2017-09-22T02:47:16 < Laurenceb_> not like it's worse than her shit
2017-09-22T02:47:43 < englishman> sounds like a good use of job hours
2017-09-22T02:47:51 < stvn> where 8ch mate
2017-09-22T02:49:00 < Laurenceb_> englishman: we literally sit around in basement with nothing to do
2017-09-22T02:49:09 < Laurenceb_> well I do
2017-09-22T02:49:20 < Laurenceb_> she turns up at 3pm drunk/on drugs
2017-09-22T02:49:30 < stvn> standard EE career
2017-09-22T02:49:52 < Laurenceb_> accurate
2017-09-22T02:51:23 < Laurenceb_> apparently we have to write a simulation in matlab
2017-09-22T02:51:31 < Laurenceb_> .. of a trolley in an ambulance
2017-09-22T02:51:46 < Laurenceb_>  "yup, there is the trolley, its in the ambulance"
2017-09-22T02:52:10 < stvn> phd in ambulamps
2017-09-22T02:53:06 < Laurenceb_> better than crapillary refail tiem
2017-09-22T02:53:11 < stvn> yah
2017-09-22T02:53:25 < stvn> ask your supervisor if there are any passengers in the back
2017-09-22T02:53:33 < stvn> and if they're black
2017-09-22T02:53:49 < stvn> because they might steal the trolley
2017-09-22T02:53:50 < Laurenceb_> top kek
2017-09-22T02:54:00 < Laurenceb_> but
2017-09-22T02:54:10 < Laurenceb_> >ask your supervisor
2017-09-22T02:54:14 < stvn> yah
2017-09-22T02:54:15 < Laurenceb_> implies we could find him
2017-09-22T02:54:17 < jadew> this is what I use bootstrap for: http://86.127.194.103/stuff/bootstrap.css
2017-09-22T02:54:23 < stvn> don't tell me he is a nigger too
2017-09-22T02:54:38 < Laurenceb_> no but he is an irclurker
2017-09-22T02:55:18 < jadew> (since we talked about bootstrap the other day)
2017-09-22T02:55:19 < stvn> nice
2017-09-22T02:55:39 < stvn> is he prepared to die for irc
2017-09-22T02:57:37 < jadew> who can figure it out wins 10 internet points
2017-09-22T03:00:20 < Laurenceb_> maybe I should have sexy tiem with russian grrrl
2017-09-22T03:00:39 < jadew> what russian girl?
2017-09-22T03:01:29 < Laurenceb_> the one who lurks in my basement lair
2017-09-22T03:02:19 < jadew> if anyone can figure out my puzzle, is probably you
2017-09-22T03:02:26 < stvn> rape dungeons
2017-09-22T03:02:28 < stvn> on stm32
2017-09-22T03:03:29 < Laurenceb_> moar liek le basement autiste
2017-09-22T03:05:21 < stvn> the great autiste
2017-09-22T03:07:18 < Laurenceb_> we were thinking of breeding cats
2017-09-22T03:07:42 < Laurenceb_> seeing as nobody ever comes down to visit us we could even grow cannabis
2017-09-22T03:08:51 < stvn> i think my work buddy has been in the toilet for 15 mins
2017-09-22T03:09:22 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0
2017-09-22T03:10:11 < stvn> raise you this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zktplPqxNIM
2017-09-22T03:11:11 < Laurenceb_> holy fucking shit
2017-09-22T03:11:15 < Laurenceb_> legit lolld
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2017-09-22T03:15:39 < stvn> received 200 through hole tactile switches
2017-09-22T03:15:43 < stvn> time to get to work
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2017-09-22T03:41:31 < Thorn> first ever aliexpress store with a proper category hierarchy https://www.aliexpress.com/store/721448?spm=2114.10010108.0.0.1e986fef8QDdD2
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2017-09-22T04:19:35 < Rob235> Thorn !
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2017-09-22T04:20:25 < Rob235> how can I have two sets of this to have one set of icons have one color and another a diff color .popover { background: #007bff; }
2017-09-22T04:22:07 < Thorn> add another class for another color: .popover.wtf { background: red; }, class="popover wtf"
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2017-09-22T04:23:51 < Rob235> k thx
2017-09-22T04:23:57 < Rob235> I was doing it backwards
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2017-09-22T04:27:47 < dongs> i wish I could get $1 each time i walk up to my PC and find either the fucking dell monitors crashed or PC crashed due to fucking dell monitors
2017-09-22T04:28:09 < dongs> i'd be able to buy several new 24" 4K monitors with GB-R backlight and 10bit panels
2017-09-22T04:28:47 < dongs> i mean if they were actually being fucking made, in 2017
2017-09-22T04:29:21 < Thorn> >dell monitors crashed
2017-09-22T04:29:21 < Thorn> wat
2017-09-22T04:29:44 < dongs> http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/3529/t/19544210
2017-09-22T04:29:48 < dongs> and hundresd other threads
2017-09-22T04:30:24 < dongs> https://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-UP2414Q-Discontinued-Manufacturer/product-reviews/B00HALPPM0
2017-09-22T04:30:28 < dongs> samea on amazon reviews
2017-09-22T04:30:29 < dongs> etc.
2017-09-22T04:30:33 < Thorn> monitors can crash?
2017-09-22T04:30:51 < Thorn> do they run windows?
2017-09-22T04:31:39 < aandrew> one of my samsungs is starting to fail, the power LED will blink off and the front panel touch bar doesn't work reliably
2017-09-22T04:31:47 < aandrew> they have been fantastic monitors though
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2017-09-22T04:50:19 < stvn> dellol
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2017-09-22T05:13:15 < dongs> https://images.anandtech.com/doci/11856/nna_perf16_575px.png this is the future
2017-09-22T05:15:37 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/ oh yea, check out the drawing page, gonna use that for each file
2017-09-22T05:18:09 < stvn> http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/09/20/12/44/abs-apologises-for-rude-barcode-on-marriage-equality-postal-survey
2017-09-22T05:18:20 < dongs> lole
2017-09-22T05:18:27 < dongs> i saw that tweet yesterday
2017-09-22T05:18:28 < dongs> BUMSEX
2017-09-22T05:25:02 < Thorn> trying to make sense of NFC http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/009/993/tumblr_m0wb2xz9Yh1r08e3p.jpg
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2017-09-22T05:37:48 < Kitlith> has anyone created a way to log writes to IO registers over here?
2017-09-22T05:38:05 < dongs> not really, i just watch them in keil
2017-09-22T05:38:10 < dongs> you could probably do something wiht ITM
2017-09-22T05:38:17 < dongs> if you had a proper debugger/etc
2017-09-22T05:38:33 < Kitlith> I don't believe so.
2017-09-22T05:38:47 < dongs> why do you need this?
2017-09-22T05:39:04 < dongs> you could literally just add logging into whatever function that touches registers?
2017-09-22T05:39:14 < Kitlith> code that isn't mine and is closed source.
2017-09-22T05:39:22 < dongs> stick it into IDA?
2017-09-22T05:39:32 < Kitlith> in addition, it can be difficult to find the binary that gets loaded sometimes.
2017-09-22T05:39:39 < dongs> is this STM32?
2017-09-22T05:39:58 < Kitlith> unfortunately not, but I thought I'd ask here since ##arm seems inactive.
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2017-09-22T05:40:32 < Kitlith> if it's too off-topic, I'll go away
2017-09-22T05:40:57 < dongs> its not ilke anyone else is talking
2017-09-22T05:41:03 < dongs> but yeah, proper jtag/ITM would be your best bet
2017-09-22T05:41:25 < dongs> you can breakpoint on memory writes
2017-09-22T05:41:31 < Kitlith> psure it's not available.
2017-09-22T05:41:38 < dongs> and either manualy record it or write some scripts etc to do it automatically
2017-09-22T05:42:35 < Kitlith> (in short there's an intermediate stage loader that I don't have access to, and I think it's issuing an init sequence, but I'm not sure what it is)
2017-09-22T05:52:06 < Kitlith> the platform is Nintendo DS, I'm trying to reverse engineer the init sequence of several flashcarts so that we can read/write to its flash without booting from the flashcart.
2017-09-22T05:53:05 < Kitlith> (ironicly, not for piracy purposes)
2017-09-22T06:10:41 < stvn> why bother with a long since obsolete console
2017-09-22T06:15:53 < dongs> DS stands for DEAD as SHIT
2017-09-22T06:15:55 < dongs> y/n/m
2017-09-22T06:17:53 < Kitlith> the 3ds, and a bootrom code execution that loads data from DS cartridges.
2017-09-22T06:19:22 < Kitlith> https://github.com/kitling/ntrboot_flasher -- some details at end of this presentation (mainly focusing on a bootrom vulnerability critical to this): https://sciresm.github.io/33-and-a-half-c3/
2017-09-22T06:20:14 < Kitlith> (the presentation title comes from being 6 months from 33c3 w/o a release from the authors, where we were first informed of the bootrom vulnerability.
2017-09-22T06:20:16 < Kitlith> )
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2017-09-22T06:31:14 < dongs> wtf, vmware is selling vaporwaer now
2017-09-22T06:31:20 < dongs> "see wahts new in workstation 14"
2017-09-22T06:31:24 < dongs> all download links are for 12
2017-09-22T06:31:34 < dongs> there's a small butotn "preorder vmware workstation 14" in one of the pages
2017-09-22T06:31:37 < dongs> what a fucking scam
2017-09-22T06:32:03 < dongs> i gotta figure out what the hell fucked by vmware usb install
2017-09-22T06:32:10 < dongs> by=my
2017-09-22T06:39:51 < stvn> make the boards for me be very good
2017-09-22T06:48:04 < englishman> dongs have you tried gerbview 7
2017-09-22T06:48:15 < englishman> i could not find a fucking gerb viewer with native windows file picker
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2017-09-22T06:48:33 < englishman> it was either gerbv and shitty lunix interface or ancient soft like pentalogix and cam350 with win2000 picker
2017-09-22T06:48:53 < englishman> truly in love with gerbview 7 right now
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2017-09-22T06:52:59 < dongs> why does it need an installer
2017-09-22T06:53:20 < englishman> to install it
2017-09-22T06:53:56 < dongs> why does it have files outside its own folder that it neesd an installer?
2017-09-22T06:54:03 < dongs> its 2017
2017-09-22T06:54:10 < dongs> when I see a "zip download" i expect to unzip and use it
2017-09-22T06:54:19 < dongs> not get a zip with a fucking installer inside
2017-09-22T06:54:23 < englishman> you mean like pentalogix
2017-09-22T06:54:30 < englishman> download zipped install file
2017-09-22T06:54:36 < dongs> pentalogix needs no install
2017-09-22T06:54:45 < englishman> sure did
2017-09-22T06:54:46 < dongs> i had the same copy in my readonly apps folder for years now
2017-09-22T06:54:50 < dongs> across several windows installs
2017-09-22T06:55:06 < englishman> i just hit the download button
2017-09-22T06:55:39 < englishman> isnt that a mac thing
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2017-09-22T07:13:49 < dongs> http://nypost.com/2017/09/21/netflix-pulls-kids-show-after-finding-a-huge-hidden-penis/
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2017-09-22T07:22:14 < stvn>  lol
2017-09-22T07:22:54 < stvn> a huge dong is visible on the side of a log
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2017-09-22T07:26:46 < ohsix> eevblog makes 100k every 4 months
2017-09-22T07:28:05 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm//201309349083 buy it now
2017-09-22T07:36:11 < stvn> hmm
2017-09-22T07:38:23 < dongs> https://images.evga.com/articles/01149/features/peace.jpg
2017-09-22T07:39:59 < jadew> is that gold?
2017-09-22T07:40:29 < jadew> ah, it's a fuse
2017-09-22T07:41:07 < jadew> why did you post it?
2017-09-22T07:41:39 < dongs> donno, random PCB parts zoomed in on G4YM3R class video cards
2017-09-22T07:41:40 < dongs> the usual
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2017-09-22T07:50:56 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/z6hf09t8x6nz.jpg
2017-09-22T07:51:35 < dongs> oh no its the shitpost hour
2017-09-22T07:51:46 < dongs> you're late, i found this image liek 2 hours ago and retweeted it everywehre ecept on irc
2017-09-22T07:51:53 < dongs> and thats before it beacme a gay unfunny redd.it link
2017-09-22T07:51:54 < ohsix> sup
2017-09-22T07:52:40 < ohsix> they need to make a solder pot centrifuge
2017-09-22T07:52:46 < ohsix> or more specifically, i need to
2017-09-22T07:52:47 < ohsix> hehe
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2017-09-22T07:53:17 < ohsix> https://i2.wp.com/maxembedded.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/part-inspection.jpg?w=596 another hidden penis
2017-09-22T07:54:52 < jadew> dongs, about that neural network thing, did it recognize it with AI or with pattern recognition?
2017-09-22T07:55:09 < dongs> judew, some CNN shit. no idea, i dont give a fuck, such useless
2017-09-22T07:55:35 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut948L1YL0g
2017-09-22T07:55:49 < jadew> I figured it made the news, but I was wondering how big of a deal it is
2017-09-22T07:56:08 < dongs> highest confidence: GIANT ERECT DONG
2017-09-22T07:56:20 < jadew> because recognizing a coffee mug is very different from having something that understands that it is a mug
2017-09-22T07:57:03 < jadew> ok, from the first 15 seconds it's clear that it has nothing to do with AI
2017-09-22T07:57:13 < dongs> i woudlnt know
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2017-09-22T07:59:35 < jadew> funny first comment
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2017-09-22T08:07:37 < ohsix> whatever they're doing, they can't afford music
2017-09-22T08:07:45 < ohsix> or have any taste in picking the free ones
2017-09-22T08:08:56 < dongs> christ
2017-09-22T08:09:01 < ohsix> when there's no object in frame it says funny things
2017-09-22T08:09:04 < dongs> these dickstarter idiots are absolutely incompetent fucks
2017-09-22T08:09:12 < ohsix> also this is kind of dum without knowing what the training data is
2017-09-22T08:09:16 < dongs> like 6+ something months ago they did preliminary CE testing or hatever
2017-09-22T08:09:21 < dongs> and got back a list of shit to fix
2017-09-22T08:09:46 < stvn> lol
2017-09-22T08:09:48 < dongs> which got fixed sure, now they're resubmitting and apparently there's more shit that 1st report didnt cover (or they didnt read enough) that tehy still have to fix
2017-09-22T08:09:56 < dongs> wtf
2017-09-22T08:09:58 < stvn> perfect
2017-09-22T08:10:00 < ohsix> re: incompetent fucks, get as much money as you can before it is gone
2017-09-22T08:10:13 < stvn> compliance is designed in the product
2017-09-22T08:10:23 < dongs> the product is fucking garbage
2017-09-22T08:10:24 < stvn> not an afterthouht
2017-09-22T08:10:28 < stvn> lol
2017-09-22T08:10:33 < dongs> and so is everyone involved in it (except me0
2017-09-22T08:19:52 < ohsix> https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Accelerationism
2017-09-22T08:20:22 < englishman> when can I buy it
2017-09-22T08:24:43 < stvn> never
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2017-09-22T08:39:22 < englishman> then its vapourware not a duckstarter
2017-09-22T08:39:57 < stvn> hmmm
2017-09-22T08:40:02 < stvn> crt productions
2017-09-22T08:40:21 < stvn> i have to find a suitable unit
2017-09-22T08:41:36 < stvn> i need to 06 a project
2017-09-22T09:03:02 < dongs> but you can preorder it now
2017-09-22T09:03:06 < dongs> for a low price of $1699
2017-09-22T09:05:45 < dongs> and receive it: never
2017-09-22T09:05:59 < dongs> if these cucks continue running the biz the way they do now
2017-09-22T09:06:08 < dongs> the "never" part is more and more lkely
2017-09-22T09:07:03 < englishman> 50x Wetsleeve Wearable Hydration Kickstarter Pack $1699
2017-09-22T09:07:17 < dongs> i'll throw in a free jug of RAW WATER
2017-09-22T09:07:18 < englishman> doxxdd
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2017-09-22T09:25:53 < dongs> oh my
2017-09-22T09:25:55 < dongs> new gayvidia drivers
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2017-09-22T09:27:07 < zyp> are they fixing your DPMS sleep problem?
2017-09-22T09:27:17 < dongs> not in public release notes
2017-09-22T09:27:21 < dongs> so im gonna guess: no
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2017-09-22T10:42:52 < Steffanx> Welcome
2017-09-22T10:42:57 < stvn> Hello welcome
2017-09-22T10:44:31 < stvn> what is new
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2017-09-22T10:51:34 < dongs> cocks.
2017-09-22T10:53:04 < stvn> yeah true
2017-09-22T10:54:25 < stvn> sup g
2017-09-22T10:54:37 < stvn> i'm a complete nigger
2017-09-22T10:55:50 < stvn> yeah
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2017-09-22T11:03:59 < dongs> https://youtu.be/b0DpURNDvX0 damn this is cool
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2017-09-22T11:05:04 < stvn> haha something you actually like?
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2017-09-22T11:40:39 < dongs> nope, sure fucking DIDNT
2017-09-22T11:40:49 < dongs> walked up to a rebooting PC with dells in standby
2017-09-22T11:44:15 < zyp> haha
2017-09-22T11:47:32 < dongs> Probably caused by : nvlddmkm.sys ( nvlddmkm+16ed6c )
2017-09-22T11:47:42 < dongs> its fucking gayvidia crashing due to dellz, again
2017-09-22T11:52:23 < stvn> homosexual african american computers
2017-09-22T11:57:23 < dongs> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/display/tdr-registry-keys
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2017-09-22T12:06:01 < upgrdman> anyone know what text editor or ide this is  https://youtu.be/0-f-1Cx0HaU?t=1147
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2017-09-22T12:07:25 < dongs> since its mactrash I would imagine xchoad
2017-09-22T12:09:58 < karlp> can't work on jadew's puzzle, they keep removing things from their webserver too fast
2017-09-22T12:11:12 < fest> is there a known errata for JPEG decoding and simultaneous USB FS interrupts/DMA reads on F7?
2017-09-22T12:11:25 < fest> (nothing in ST's errata about this, of course)
2017-09-22T12:11:31 < karlp> heh, I bet there's _lots_ of undocumented errata on f7
2017-09-22T12:11:50 < karlp> upgrdman: man, that's a fucking 1 hour video
2017-09-22T12:11:51 < karlp> when?
2017-09-22T12:13:41 < dongs> karlp: he linked to timestamp
2017-09-22T12:13:47 < dongs> your shitty lunix browser doesnt do url args??
2017-09-22T12:14:00 < fest> specifically: JPEG decoder seems to stop producing MCUs but does execute decode complete callback
2017-09-22T12:14:07 < upgrdman> ya at the time i linked
2017-09-22T12:14:44 < fest> all I see is that it only happens __sometimes__ when USB receives data
2017-09-22T12:15:30 < fest> interrupting JPEG decoding from other interrupts at the same priority works fine
2017-09-22T12:27:57 < ohsix> upgrdman: it says j8 in the title
2017-09-22T12:28:40 < upgrdman> ohsix, ya but googleing left me without much
2017-09-22T12:30:45 < ohsix> it's not the one at jsoftware?
2017-09-22T12:32:16 < ohsix> oh, must be a project name
2017-09-22T12:32:50 < karlp> hrm, that particular video isn't seeking for me. no idea why, normally works.
2017-09-22T12:32:53 < karlp> sorry upgrdman
2017-09-22T12:33:02 < ohsix> https://macromates.com/
2017-09-22T12:33:16 < ohsix> mac only
2017-09-22T12:35:15 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-22T12:38:21 < ohsix> gedit is similar enough on lunix
2017-09-22T12:38:50 < ohsix> might even be trying to ape it now that i've seen textmate
2017-09-22T12:40:31 < ohsix> heh google has a birthday doodle
2017-09-22T12:50:47 < ohsix> balls. finding epub versions of shit is so worthless that i start disliking the book
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2017-09-22T12:56:39 < Thorn> China fails @ soldering
2017-09-22T12:57:08 < ohsix> where
2017-09-22T12:57:20 < Thorn> last 7 leds in a ws2812 ring didn't work, resoldering fixed it
2017-09-22T12:58:38 < ohsix> hurr
2017-09-22T12:58:49 < ohsix> garrett mace had the same problem on the stuff he was making
2017-09-22T12:59:46 < dongs> Lol
2017-09-22T12:59:49 < dongs> yeah typical
2017-09-22T12:59:59 < dongs> ive gotten 2812 leds that you push on top of them and more colors wuld light up
2017-09-22T13:00:06 < Thorn> what if I ordered 100
2017-09-22T13:00:08 < dongs> i.e. shitty/failed reflow that blew up the bonding inside
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2017-09-22T13:01:20 < Thorn> in other news, stm8 wins https://i.imgur.com/fB42AWk.jpg
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2017-09-22T13:02:57 < dongs> wins what
2017-09-22T13:03:05 < dongs> are you bitbanging 2812 on it?
2017-09-22T13:03:20 < Thorn> yes
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2017-09-22T13:08:00 < Thorn> 16MHz (fastest clock on HSI) is barely enough
2017-09-22T13:08:05 < dongs> snort
2017-09-22T13:08:11 < dongs> doesnt it have timer tho?
2017-09-22T13:08:21 < dongs> cant hack it without DMA i guess
2017-09-22T13:11:34 < Thorn> it has 5 timers iirc but I dunno about interrupt latency
2017-09-22T13:11:54 < Thorn> only a few cycles per protocol bit are available
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2017-09-22T13:19:48 < Thorn> nope, looks like 11 cycles to enter interrupt, 9 to IRET
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2017-09-22T13:31:54 < Thorn> how do I make firmware portable between nrf51 and 52 with different softdevices and probably also sdk versions
2017-09-22T13:43:35 < zyp> portable as in binary compatible?
2017-09-22T13:43:47 < zyp> or just two builds from one source?
2017-09-22T13:44:11 < Thorn> source compatible
2017-09-22T13:44:27 < zyp> should be easy enough, what's your concern?
2017-09-22T13:44:40 < zyp> API compatible means source compatible
2017-09-22T13:44:49 < zyp> and for anything else you can ifdef
2017-09-22T13:46:44 < Thorn> there're a lot of subtle differences if you read release notes / migration documents, and that is between versions of the same thing. I'm yet to find a document that would compare e.g. s132 to s130 or whatever the 51 equivalent is
2017-09-22T13:47:49 < zyp> make a wrapper layer for each around your source then, then build with relevant wrapper layer
2017-09-22T13:48:11 < Thorn> yeah probably
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2017-09-22T14:18:40 < Lux> when i have an stm32f103 with read out protection enabled, will disabling the readout protection with the st-link utility also erase the flash ?
2017-09-22T14:19:30 < dongs> of course
2017-09-22T14:19:37 < dongs> thats the whole point of that
2017-09-22T14:24:02 < Lux> yeah makes sense, i just thought maybe :)
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2017-09-22T14:25:32 < Lux> seems like that board is retarded in that sense anyway as one can just download firmware.bin for updates which seems to be unencrypted
2017-09-22T14:26:53 < karlp> protecting contents is not the same as protecting from flashing new contents...
2017-09-22T14:27:00 < karlp> there's a reason it's called readout protection
2017-09-22T14:29:21 < dongs> well i guess the point hes saying is that nigs can just download firmware anyway
2017-09-22T14:29:23 < dongs> and flash it
2017-09-22T14:29:34 < Lux> yeah, that's what i meant
2017-09-22T14:29:38 < dongs> contents aren't protected
2017-09-22T14:29:42 < dongs> just reading it out is
2017-09-22T14:29:49 < karlp> that's why it's called readout protection
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2017-09-22T16:19:44 < Laurenceb_> two cannibals start eating Amy Schumer
2017-09-22T16:19:58 < Laurenceb_> one says to the other "this taste funny to you?"
2017-09-22T16:20:06 < Laurenceb_> the other "nope"
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2017-09-22T16:26:11 < Steffanx> Are you sure you didnt write your own name first? :P
2017-09-22T16:26:19 < Steffanx> Easy mistake you know
2017-09-22T16:28:45 < Steffanx> How's your TED Laurenceb_? Full time cloning?
2017-09-22T16:32:58 < englishman> Lux: l1 protected?
2017-09-22T16:33:06 < englishman> there's a workaround for that now, you can readout L1 chips
2017-09-22T16:33:21 < englishman> samtec refused to cancel my order
2017-09-22T16:33:27 < englishman> they are on the shitlist now
2017-09-22T16:34:04 < englishman> of course if they give you unencrypted .bin thats another type of workaround
2017-09-22T16:34:24 < qyx> order of waht
2017-09-22T16:34:51 < englishman> some stupid connectors that they said would originally take 4 days then moved to end of october ship date without telling me
2017-09-22T16:45:45 < qyx> aha samtec, for some reason I read semtech
2017-09-22T16:46:04 < englishman> ah
2017-09-22T16:56:30 < Steffanx> englishman is too unimportantly small
2017-09-22T17:00:36 < Steffanx> they probably wont care about your shitlist englishman
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2017-09-22T17:16:54  * Laurenceb_ has lis3mdl
2017-09-22T17:17:32 < Steffanx> und?
2017-09-22T17:18:49 < Laurenceb_> the magno that is never in stock
2017-09-22T17:19:08 < Laurenceb_> managed to get 100 of them
2017-09-22T17:20:38 < Steffanx> but the eval board and desolder it? :D
2017-09-22T17:20:47 < fest> so, adafruit doesn't have any more modules?
2017-09-22T17:21:34 < Steffanx> she buys eval boards and desolders the chip
2017-09-22T17:22:24 < gxti> lul
2017-09-22T17:38:11 < Steffanx> i like how you keep being on topic gxti. ( "lul" means "dick" in dutch)
2017-09-22T17:39:44 < Thorn> the china led ring is fkn unreliable starting 2/3 of the way. hope more soldering will fix it
2017-09-22T17:39:51 < gxti> Steffanx: good to know
2017-09-22T17:40:54 < Steffanx> Got what you paid for Thorn..
2017-09-22T17:48:16 < tomeaton17> How would you guys go about sending data atomically on serial? I have lots of register values that I need to send back to the computer
2017-09-22T17:51:04 < Thorn> >atomically
2017-09-22T17:51:07 < Thorn> that part requires some elaboration
2017-09-22T17:52:29 < tomeaton17> So the data transfer is guaranteed to not be interuppted by anything
2017-09-22T17:52:48 < tomeaton17> *interrupted
2017-09-22T17:56:06 < Thorn> >interrupted
2017-09-22T17:56:08 < Thorn> that part requires some elaboration
2017-09-22T17:56:18 < Thorn> is a pause an interruption?
2017-09-22T17:56:29 < Thorn> what exactly are you trying to defend against?
2017-09-22T17:57:30 < tomeaton17> Bytes being sent out of sequence
2017-09-22T17:57:45 < tomeaton17> Probably will be easiest by implementing commands as suggested by Fleck
2017-09-22T17:58:22 < karlp> were you the person doign modbus?
2017-09-22T17:58:52 < tomeaton17> What the guy trying to reinvent the wheel? No I am just using serial
2017-09-22T18:05:40 < dongs> what was that buttcoin thing that gives out free coins
2017-09-22T18:05:49 < dongs> zyp/whoever linked to it before
2017-09-22T18:06:05 < zyp> not me
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2017-09-22T18:06:07 < dongs> buttcoin seed or someshit
2017-09-22T18:06:10 < zyp> faucet
2017-09-22T18:06:13 < dongs> faucet yea
2017-09-22T18:06:26 < zyp> they all seem like bullshit
2017-09-22T18:06:29 < upgrdman> someone's giving out free buttcoins?
2017-09-22T18:06:39 < zyp> except for the testnet ones, of course
2017-09-22T18:07:22 < dongs> ok got it, thanks
2017-09-22T18:07:25 < dongs> not for me, just retweeting
2017-09-22T18:08:32 < zyp> as far as I understand, the ones that hand out actual bitcoin are like "click ads, earn a fraction of a cent" or some shit like that
2017-09-22T18:08:58 < dongs> ya, who cares, i jsut needed a name
2017-09-22T18:09:04 < dongs> the dicks who were asking can go figure out how to actually use it
2017-09-22T18:09:10 < zyp> haha
2017-09-22T18:15:39 < englishman> lool i got a PTH assembly contract
2017-09-22T18:15:41 < englishman> time to learn how to leadform
2017-09-22T18:16:16 < englishman> Laurenceb_ i could have sold you a reel
2017-09-22T18:17:00 < englishman> Thorn im buttbanging (in asm) ws2812b without issues on 16mhz internal osc
2017-09-22T18:17:57 < Laurenceb_> ah too late now
2017-09-22T18:18:00 < Laurenceb_> thankx anyway
2017-09-22T18:20:27 < englishman> i have to keep stock of this crap anyway
2017-09-22T18:21:00 < englishman> cuz ST doesnt know how to place orders at TSMC
2017-09-22T18:23:10 < Laurenceb_> ST orders from TSMC?
2017-09-22T18:23:22 < Laurenceb_> I thought they used all their own fabs?
2017-09-22T18:23:35 < Thorn> englishman: I am too, the problem is with the ring, most likely bad soldering. I partially fixed it already by resoldering
2017-09-22T18:23:43 < englishman> ah yeah st is the one weird one with their own fabs
2017-09-22T18:23:51 < englishman> ahh nice
2017-09-22T18:24:07 < Laurenceb_> they get EU megabux for French fabs
2017-09-22T18:24:27 < englishman> $300m gbp a day amirite
2017-09-22T18:25:09 < Laurenceb_> ukp350M
2017-09-22T18:25:19 < Laurenceb_> it's funny cuz it's true
2017-09-22T18:25:25 < Laurenceb_> but causes massive butthurt
2017-09-22T18:28:08 < englishman> we have the same thing here
2017-09-22T18:28:24 < englishman> because my area is better at cooking the books, we always appear poor to the other provinces so they give us money
2017-09-22T18:28:27 < englishman> been going on 20 years
2017-09-22T18:28:34 < englishman> we call it the cheque d'anglais
2017-09-22T18:28:41 < englishman> and they are all butthurt about it
2017-09-22T18:29:03 < Laurenceb_> > d'anglais
2017-09-22T18:29:08 < Laurenceb_> Anglos confirmed
2017-09-22T18:29:21 < englishman> pretty much all the english give the french money because they're suckers
2017-09-22T18:29:31 < englishman> then complain about it, as is canadian tradition
2017-09-22T18:29:55 < englishman> is there a vote to separate? no, because they also have tiny dicks
2017-09-22T18:30:11 < Laurenceb_> https://pics.me.me/the-eternal-anglo-eternally-recurrent-trudeaumania-bogus-hyperborreanism-moving-to-7436274.png
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2017-09-22T18:58:08 < Thorn> wtf why is conditional jump faster than unconditional relative jump in stm8
2017-09-22T18:58:30 < karlp> which one is more likely to be used in realworld code?
2017-09-22T18:58:41 < karlp> hint, the faster one.
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2017-09-22T19:01:36 < Thorn> both are used in case of if...else...
2017-09-22T19:02:28 < Thorn> oshi~ sdcc has tail call optimization
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2017-09-22T19:07:31 < karlp> are you still poking your stm8 asm to save the money on buying stm32 for your leds?
2017-09-22T19:07:44 < karlp> how many hours have you spent resoldering things and hacking on this in the name of "savings" so far?
2017-09-22T19:09:00 < Steffanx> hobby hours are free right?
2017-09-22T19:10:55 < zyp> haha
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2017-09-22T19:14:01 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2017-09-22T19:14:12 < Laurenceb_> >this much work into an stm8 led flasher
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2017-09-22T19:21:30 < englishman> another stmh8er
2017-09-22T19:22:09 < englishman> stm8 is the ultimate ws2812b flasher
2017-09-22T19:22:21 < englishman> it costs the same as like 3 leds
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2017-09-22T19:25:19 < englishman> another quote for PTH assembly
2017-09-22T19:25:32 < englishman> who wants to become an unpaid pth assembly intern
2017-09-22T19:32:23 < Thorn> I spent a total of 3 hours on a stm8 led flasher, already showed it to 2 people who might bring me customers (lol)
2017-09-22T19:32:41 < Thorn> I'm interested in the architecture
2017-09-22T19:32:55 < zyp> dat hardcore 8bit
2017-09-22T19:33:53 < Thorn> my last 8 bit experience was in 2011 or so
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2017-09-22T20:28:40 < Rickta59> why is the stm8 well suited to ws281x leds?
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2017-09-22T20:39:59 < englishman> tiny
2017-09-22T20:40:02 < englishman> easy as shit to brogram
2017-09-22T20:40:14 < englishman> costs as much as the leds and runs at 5v
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2017-09-22T20:56:13 < Thorn> CLK_CKDIVR = 0x00;  // the sum total of RCC config, compare to stm32
2017-09-22T20:59:19 < Steffanx> Hah
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2017-09-22T21:25:38 < englishman> incorrect
2017-09-22T21:25:40 < englishman> this step is optional
2017-09-22T21:26:10 < kakimir> hello sexuals
2017-09-22T21:26:52 < englishman> only if you need many megahurtz
2017-09-22T21:27:35 < englishman> do compare it to larger and more expensive and not 3v3 capable atmega328p
2017-09-22T21:27:44 < englishman> where you have to set clock speed at time of manufacture
2017-09-22T21:36:28 < Steffanx> some AVRs have this clock/8 option
2017-09-22T21:36:31 < Steffanx> at run time :P
2017-09-22T21:37:26 < englishman> do you want to come and work for me as lead leadforming and snipping engineer
2017-09-22T21:37:49 < Steffanx> do you pay for housing and food
2017-09-22T21:37:50 < Steffanx> and beer?
2017-09-22T21:37:56 < englishman> and kittens
2017-09-22T21:39:27 < Steffanx> i dont need those
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2017-09-22T21:44:23 < Thorn> fun fact: the bug patching code in SystemInit() for nrf52832 is larger than my whole stm8 led animation firmware
2017-09-22T21:44:49 < upgrdman> and you're not bitter about it at all
2017-09-22T21:44:53 < upgrdman> ;)
2017-09-22T21:51:17 < Steffanx> and you upgrdman?
2017-09-22T21:51:29 < upgrdman> im always bitter
2017-09-22T21:52:35 < Steffanx> wannabee dongs?
2017-09-22T21:53:45 < Laurenceb_> <englishman> do compare it to larger and more expensive and not 3v3 capable atmega328p
2017-09-22T21:53:48 < Laurenceb_> lul
2017-09-22T21:53:56 < Laurenceb_> people still use avr
2017-09-22T21:54:20 < englishman> dude im currently assembling a board with PIC16F
2017-09-22T21:54:25 < englishman> PTH
2017-09-22T21:54:45 < englishman> i told them it would be cheapaer to redesign the board and placed 100 of them, rather than pay me to solder 8500 holes
2017-09-22T21:56:42 < Thorn> attn englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_--zIPVi5k&t=25s
2017-09-22T22:09:29 < Laurenceb_> >8500 holes
2017-09-22T22:09:36 < Laurenceb_> UR MUM
2017-09-22T22:11:13 < Laurenceb_> https://kek.gg/i/3gGMzx.jpg
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2017-09-23T00:01:51 < Laurenceb_> https://pastebin.com/tpAV4yR0
2017-09-23T00:02:49 < Lux> englishman: do you have any more info on that ?
2017-09-23T00:03:03 < Lux> how to read l1 protected stuff
2017-09-23T00:04:00 < Lux> they have the bin file unencrypted, but I'd still like to keep the bootloader also I don't know if it might still brick the board flashing that via swd
2017-09-23T00:08:13 < Thorn> is $4-$6 a realistic price for xc6slx9-2tqg144c, I found it in 2 places for this price already
2017-09-23T00:08:37 < Thorn> qty 10
2017-09-23T00:09:00 < ohsix> withotu even knowing the part size or series, probably yes
2017-09-23T00:09:36 < Thorn> digikey has it for $16 with no price breaks
2017-09-23T00:09:42 < ohsix> digikey sez 16, are there other packages?
2017-09-23T00:11:04 < Thorn> should be
2017-09-23T00:12:45 < ohsix> huh bga is more, nevermind
2017-09-23T00:13:43 < ohsix> i guess there's some added risk they'd be pulled/recovered parts
2017-09-23T00:14:21 < zyp> lx9 is the smallest variant, shouldn't cost much
2017-09-23T00:35:16 < ohsix> hustlin'
2017-09-23T00:35:33 < ohsix> lots of local biz in weeeeeeeed but the one i happened to get some engineering work from are a bit spastic
2017-09-23T00:35:48 < ohsix> they're leaking money all over, they won't wait for any one thing before they get distracted
2017-09-23T00:36:10 < ohsix> so they pay for 5 different things on this one aspect of a thing as they speak to other people
2017-09-23T00:37:43 < ohsix> Thorn: ali has a bunch for 4-5$ https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?minPrice=&maxPrice=&isBigSale=n&isFreeShip=y&isNew=n&isFavorite=n&isMobileExclusive=n&isLocalReturn=n&shipFromCountry=&shipCompanies=&SearchText=xc6slx9-2tqg144c&CatId=0&g=y&SortType=price_asc&needQuery=n&isUnitPrice=y
2017-09-23T00:37:54 < ohsix> <3 isunitprice, it is confusing, i understand why they removed it
2017-09-23T00:51:56 < englishman> Lux: https://www.aisec.fraunhofer.de/en/FirmwareProtection.html
2017-09-23T00:52:21 < englishman> someone in another chan tried it and it worekd
2017-09-23T00:53:06 < Steffanx> also on l1?
2017-09-23T01:09:17 < englishman> he's talking about L1 protection on stm32f1
2017-09-23T01:11:04 < Steffanx> oh duh, im dumb.
2017-09-23T01:11:20 < Steffanx> but that stuff works on F1 too then? As that paper is about F0
2017-09-23T01:11:37 < englishman> id assume so since it's much older
2017-09-23T01:11:42 < englishman> i think the other guy was about to try it
2017-09-23T01:12:41 < Steffanx> but it might not have this glitch/race condition because different core etc.
2017-09-23T01:13:49 < englishman> only one way to find out
2017-09-23T01:13:59 < Steffanx> im not going to.
2017-09-23T01:14:31 < Steffanx> maybe you'll have time somewhere in between soldering 8500 pins and crimping stuff
2017-09-23T01:15:02 < englishman> fuck, dude
2017-09-23T01:15:04 < englishman> 12% done
2017-09-23T01:15:10 < englishman> also
2017-09-23T01:15:12 < englishman> is AVNET related to ARROW
2017-09-23T01:15:18 < englishman> because they are pissing me off
2017-09-23T01:15:38 < Steffanx> hah
2017-09-23T01:17:30 < Steffanx> but its their job to do that..
2017-09-23T01:20:15 < Steffanx> Im glad i dont have to deal with them. At work we ordered pre-programmed stm8s from them. Took them months (after original delivery date) to do that.
2017-09-23T01:20:29 < Steffanx> and then they lasered the wrong number into the package -_-
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2017-09-23T01:28:27 < englishman> so you're saying i'm super fucked?
2017-09-23T01:31:18 < ohsix> ur dum lol
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2017-09-23T01:33:41 < Laurenceb_> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=127_1506064906
2017-09-23T01:33:44 < Laurenceb_> my fucking sides
2017-09-23T01:34:00 < Steffanx> also depends on your contact i guess englishman, the dutch one is f-ing terrible. lazy ass.
2017-09-23T01:35:27 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: new strategy: give them all go pro's on the chance that they'll post stupid operational stuff
2017-09-23T01:36:08 < Laurenceb_> left.. right.. somewhere
2017-09-23T01:36:11 < Laurenceb_>  *boom*
2017-09-23T01:37:08 < ohsix> eh don't they have radios?
2017-09-23T01:37:35 < ohsix> guess if you can convince them they'll go to heaven or whatever in battle, whatever damage they do is beneficial even if it' just burns a ton of people doing very little
2017-09-23T01:40:46 < ohsix> they survived longer than i'd expect after knowing of a tank
2017-09-23T01:41:06 < ohsix> what would knowing where it was do when you're on a big open range like that, unless you're just busting ass out of the area
2017-09-23T01:41:07 < Laurenceb_> they cant even work out which side of them it'son
2017-09-23T01:41:35 < ohsix> can't see from the video how often they changed direction or if they were even moving
2017-09-23T01:44:36 < Laurenceb_> I got busted https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5d6_1506051261
2017-09-23T01:45:30 < ohsix> hmprh
2017-09-23T01:45:55 < ohsix> looking for pdfs to rip cad shit from for 7 segment displays, need colon and other narrow ones that i've seen in old equipment, have no idea who made them
2017-09-23T01:46:25 < ohsix> crop it out of one of the multi digit displays? y/n
2017-09-23T01:46:56 < ohsix> https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/7-segment-quad-digit-display/36098 wat, broadcom
2017-09-23T01:48:44 < ohsix> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1685861 noice
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2017-09-23T02:00:04 < munki_> win 5
2017-09-23T02:04:11 < Steffanx> we're at 10
2017-09-23T02:13:22 < ohsix> only off by one here
2017-09-23T02:27:17 < jadew> man... that amazon player is awesome
2017-09-23T02:27:52 < jadew> I was watching a tv show episode and moved the mouse at one point and I notice that it overlays on the side all the actors in the scene
2017-09-23T02:29:22 < Steffanx> as in amazon prime?
2017-09-23T02:29:40 < jadew> yeah
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2017-09-23T02:59:51 < englishman> holy shit fuck avnet
2017-09-23T02:59:56 < englishman> they must be colluding with arrow to fuck me
2017-09-23T03:01:34 < Steffanx> wanna share mr englishman?
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2017-09-23T06:02:01 < dongs> < jadew> I was watching a tv show episode
2017-09-23T06:02:04 < dongs> found your first mistake
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2017-09-23T09:47:32 < englishman> how do shit companies like samtec even exist
2017-09-23T09:53:21 < englishman> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/21/that_57m_ibm_contract_ended_up_costing_185m_well_blame_canada/
2017-09-23T09:53:28 < englishman> not nearly as shit as IBM
2017-09-23T09:53:36 < englishman> everything in this article is 100% true
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2017-09-23T10:46:17 < ohsix> someone specced samtec part in dead project
2017-09-23T10:48:49 < ohsix> +the
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2017-09-23T11:01:05 < ohsix> i got a cool hat from them in like 1997
2017-09-23T11:01:08 < ohsix> along with a sample kit
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2017-09-23T11:36:54 < zyp> anyone know of any microcontrollers with more than one ethernet MAC?
2017-09-23T11:37:54 < zyp> I searched around a bit, and so far the only thing I've found is XMOS, which I assume works by bitbanging MII/RMII
2017-09-23T11:39:52 < ohsix> hm
2017-09-23T11:40:17 < ohsix> do the allwinner socs count?
2017-09-23T11:40:39 < ohsix> i think wayyyyyyyyy back i saw a microchip part with 2, and even then i think one wasn't full featured
2017-09-23T11:41:29 < zyp> https://www.xmos.com/support/boards?product=15830&component=15949
2017-09-23T11:42:04 < zyp> "runs on five logical cores"
2017-09-23T11:42:08 < ohsix> i thought xmos was rip
2017-09-23T11:43:24 < jpa-> you could put an ethernet chip on e.g. quad-spi bus, but of course it's not quite the same
2017-09-23T11:44:18 < zyp> jpa-, yeah, I've thought about that
2017-09-23T11:44:36 < zyp> I've also thought about usb ethernet
2017-09-23T11:49:45 < ohsix> there's the poopy enj things from microchip
2017-09-23T11:49:55 < ohsix> do you just need two ports or is there something special
2017-09-23T11:50:30 < ohsix> there's probably a switch that you can do injection on, or use the mirroring/host port to manage it as if it were a bunch of ethernet interface devices
2017-09-23T11:50:30 < c10ud> zyp, iirc there was some atmel arm
2017-09-23T11:51:06 < ohsix> h3h that's the first hit on google for 'dual ethernet microcontroller'
2017-09-23T11:51:46 < ohsix> going by the rest, nxp, cypress, infineon and a handful of others have some
2017-09-23T11:52:14 < c10ud> maybe that's the most used, I remember seeing it in some weird military panel
2017-09-23T11:52:35 < zyp> I'm thinking something cortex-m-class, not cortex-a (or older equivalents)
2017-09-23T11:53:16 < c10ud> also sama5d4, but that's hardly a microcontroller
2017-09-23T11:53:46 < zyp> ohsix, I need real time performance on one of the ports, so I can't do vlan tricks to share it with other stuff
2017-09-23T11:54:41 < ohsix> werd
2017-09-23T11:54:51 < ohsix> wtf section is ethernet chipsets in on digikey
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2017-09-23T12:26:11 < PaulFertser> ohsix: any switch with "trunking" capabilities will do, you just prepend 802.11q vlan id headers and configure the switch to assign ids to hardware ports.
2017-09-23T12:27:47 < ohsix> nice
2017-09-23T12:27:48 < PaulFertser> zyp: please excuse my curiosity, but how do vlans affect jitter or other performance specs?
2017-09-23T12:27:57 < ohsix> never looked into them
2017-09-23T12:28:15 < PaulFertser> ohsix: I'd guess you have many in your wifi ap/routers
2017-09-23T12:32:04 < zyp> PaulFertser, to get more than one virtual interface from a single MAC, you could add a switch chip in front of the MAC that appends a vlan tag depending on which port a packet arrived on, and pops off the vlan tag on outgoing packets to know which port to send them out on
2017-09-23T12:32:05 < PaulFertser> You'll probably have hard time finding a switch IC that does _not_ support trunking, judging by cheap china routers.
2017-09-23T12:32:33 < PaulFertser> zyp: yes, that's what I'm talking about.
2017-09-23T12:32:50 < zyp> PaulFertser, what this achieves is essentially time-multiplexing the single MAC between multiple ports
2017-09-23T12:33:21 < PaulFertser> Well, yes, my question is why it doesn't fit your usecase.
2017-09-23T12:33:44 < zyp> yes, I'm just making sure we agree on the basis
2017-09-23T12:33:45 < PaulFertser> btw, in some cases one can combine tagged and untagged packets on same port.
2017-09-23T12:34:41 < zyp> the problem is that this relies on having a store-and-forward switch in front of the MAC, which introduces a nondeterministic latency
2017-09-23T12:38:07 < zyp> a 1500 byte packet takes 120us at 100Mb/s even without counting preamble
2017-09-23T12:38:55 < zyp> delaying a realtime packet 120us because a 1500 byte packet arrived on a low-prio port is unacceptable
2017-09-23T12:42:21 < PaulFertser> For no reason I thought you are controlling traffic over low-priority port so incoming packets won't distrupt your main link.
2017-09-23T12:42:35 < PaulFertser> I see your point now.
2017-09-23T12:45:02 < zyp> what I'd like to do is bridge a non-realtime segment with a realtime segment, receiving packets from the non-realtime segment and queueing them for an available timeslot on the realtime segment
2017-09-23T12:45:39 < zyp> opposite direction is easier, just a matter of stripping away the realtime control frames
2017-09-23T12:54:42 < zyp> another question: anybody have any suggestions for analyzing ethernet traffic with accurate timestamping of frames?
2017-09-23T12:55:46 < zyp> http://www.profitap.com/profishark-100m/ <- I've found this, but it seems to be $1k, and that seems kinda expensive for what it is
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2017-09-23T13:33:04 < Thorn> fuck me
2017-09-23T13:33:17 < jpa-> ask Laurenceb if he would oblige
2017-09-23T13:33:18 < Thorn> the bobcat tv guy tried to kill himself live on youtube last night. got bitten by a mamba. in ICU in coma
2017-09-23T13:35:28 < Steffanx> why would we fuck you for that? We need video
2017-09-23T13:35:30 < Steffanx> or maybe we dont
2017-09-23T13:35:54 < Thorn> removed by youtube
2017-09-23T13:36:00 < Steffanx> there is more than youtube
2017-09-23T13:36:40 < Steffanx> That kind of video is great beause he f-ing deserves it.
2017-09-23T13:39:08 < Steffanx> but better not post, as it's mr lb_-ware and we dont need that
2017-09-23T13:43:07 < sync> what is up with that guy? I heard the name a few times but never looked into it
2017-09-23T14:11:34 < Steffanx> the civilized world doesnt seem to mention anything about it Thorn
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2017-09-23T14:55:24 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/LfXMW4R
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2017-09-23T15:51:37 < jadew> lol
2017-09-23T15:51:46 < upgrdman> lol https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2017/09/23/adobe-security-team-posts-public-key-together-with-private-key/
2017-09-23T15:53:31 < jadew> that article is an article too long
2017-09-23T15:53:55 < jadew> could have been just a title
2017-09-23T15:54:42 < upgrdman> this pc needs moar fans  https://i.redd.it/liqn9zvxnfnz.jpg
2017-09-23T15:56:08 < sync> > single screen
2017-09-23T15:56:11 < sync> pls
2017-09-23T15:56:40 < jadew> and single SSD
2017-09-23T16:03:14 < englishman> Thorn someone had to have downloaded the video
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2017-09-23T16:12:22 < Laurenceb_> what the
2017-09-23T16:12:24 < Laurenceb_> my eyes
2017-09-23T16:19:12 < sync> В ночь на 23 сентября 2017 года Арслан получил укус мамбы, доставлен в реанимацию. Steffanx
2017-09-23T16:23:23 < Steffanx> да да
2017-09-23T16:23:43 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FjZMj-lZ0s
2017-09-23T16:24:35 < Laurenceb_> 2:53 : typical Trump supporters
2017-09-23T16:24:43 < jadew> https://i.imgur.com/zFbNmhf.png
2017-09-23T16:24:46 < Steffanx> That's kinda what Thorn said, but i said " civilized world"  sync :P
2017-09-23T16:26:37 < sync> точно так
2017-09-23T16:28:54 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yIg9OTys6o
2017-09-23T16:32:45 < Steffanx> Im not into stuff like that, but the costumes some people make are fucking awesome
2017-09-23T16:37:03 < jadew> yeah, they must put a lot of effort into them
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2017-09-23T17:20:51 < invzim> hm, my 1117 1.8V is getting a little warm
2017-09-23T17:22:51 < zyp> invzim, unexpectedly so?
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2017-09-23T17:23:28 < invzim> nah, not really
2017-09-23T17:23:34 < zyp> it's a linear reg, power/thermal math is simple
2017-09-23T17:23:46 < invzim> haven't measured actual draw on that rail
2017-09-23T17:24:00 < invzim> but total is less than 0.5A at 5V, so can't be massive
2017-09-23T17:27:14 < englishman> >1W
2017-09-23T17:28:52 < invzim> total, got 1.2/1.8/2.5/3.3 :)
2017-09-23T17:29:15 < englishman> yikes
2017-09-23T17:29:41 < invzim> Actually got 5V too, but that is non-critical stuff so just feed it from usb
2017-09-23T17:35:54 < invzim> would feeding the 1.8V regulator 3.3 instead of 5 make a difference?
2017-09-23T17:37:01 < invzim> yes it would
2017-09-23T17:37:45 < sync> obv it would
2017-09-23T17:37:49 < sync> a huge difference as well
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2017-09-23T17:39:33 < englishman> heat distribution at the cost of efficiency
2017-09-23T17:40:20 < Steffanx> Maybe its more efficient when more current is drawn
2017-09-23T17:41:13 < Steffanx> Assuming the 3.3V doesnt come from another ldo
2017-09-23T17:43:10 < invzim> it does, so the heat would probably just be shifted
2017-09-23T17:43:43 < sync> but it is easier to get rid of if you spread it more
2017-09-23T17:44:08 < invzim> not sure if it's really a concertn, just noticed it was hot
2017-09-23T17:44:12 < invzim> about 47 C
2017-09-23T17:44:39 < Steffanx> Did you use the well known finger thermometer?
2017-09-23T17:44:41 < invzim> this is the weekend an electronic load would be fun to have :)
2017-09-23T17:44:55 < invzim> finger and k-type :)
2017-09-23T17:50:43 < zyp> linear regulation would always result in the same amount of power dissipated regardless of the number of regulators you have in series
2017-09-23T17:52:12 < zyp> feeding the 1.8V reg from 3.3V instead of 5V would reduce the dissipation in the 1.8V reg, but increase the dissipation in the 3.3V reg by the exact same amount
2017-09-23T17:52:20 < invzim> damn math!
2017-09-23T17:52:51 < sync> more like physics
2017-09-23T17:53:01 < zyp> and if the 3.3V regulator also already have a significant load, that might cause it to dissipate more than the 1.8V reg currently are
2017-09-23T17:53:48 < zyp> which means it won't necessarily distribute the dissipation better
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2017-09-23T18:47:07 < englishman> maybe the reg also gets more efficient with higher temp
2017-09-23T18:50:59 < Steffanx> :P
2017-09-23T18:51:12 < englishman> steffy
2017-09-23T18:51:16 < englishman> avnet actually shipped my shit
2017-09-23T18:51:23 < englishman> EVERYTHING IS GOING OK
2017-09-23T18:51:29 < englishman> that is literally the best i can hope for
2017-09-23T18:51:53 < zyp> pff, plane's gonna crash on the way
2017-09-23T18:52:43 < englishman> hopefully right into 1 WTC
2017-09-23T18:53:05 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/aAVvYpr.jpg
2017-09-23T18:53:46 < jadew> invzim, 47 celsius is not much
2017-09-23T18:54:52 < jadew> if you want to take it down, see if you can improve the themarl transfer
2017-09-23T18:55:14 < jadew> a bit more copper that it is connected to makes wonders
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2017-09-23T18:56:55 < jadew> I managed to reduce the temperature of some resistors from 8x celsius to ok-to-touch by just making the trace they were connected to a bit wider
2017-09-23T18:57:15 < jadew> by a bit I mean 3 times wider
2017-09-23T19:30:58 < upgrdman> englishman, how old is your kitteh?
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2017-09-23T20:01:47 < jadew``> It's in our genes ;) https://imgur.com/gallery/g6ejY
2017-09-23T20:02:14 < jadew``> damn imgur copied it with the title
2017-09-23T20:03:55 < Steffanx> and how they know it is..
2017-09-23T20:10:00 < englishman> upgrdman: 2
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2017-09-23T20:23:49 < jadew> Steffanx, by the stench
2017-09-23T20:24:33 < jadew> I think it's used for some ritual (I know this because I've seen it performed a couple of days ago on youtube)
2017-09-23T20:24:37 < jadew> apparently they still do it
2017-09-23T20:27:06 < jadew> btw, the ritual involves rubbing it against the vagina
2017-09-23T20:27:13 < jadew> maybe that's why she's wearing gloves
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2017-09-23T20:28:16 < invzim> jadew: added a bit of copper around it to see if it makes a difference for next proto
2017-09-23T20:30:02 < jadew> Steffanx, found the video, but it wasn't youtube: https://www.xvideos.com/video13079875/sex_rituals_africa
2017-09-23T20:31:10 < jadew> NSFW
2017-09-23T20:31:13 < jadew> forgot to mention that
2017-09-23T20:34:35 < invzim> he, wifu is from Africa but never told me about that stuff
2017-09-23T20:35:46 < jadew> it's still less weird than the crap that comes out of Japan
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2017-09-23T20:49:19 < Steffanx> poor jadew.
2017-09-23T20:50:10 < jadew> it was featured, I had to check it out
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2017-09-23T21:08:15 < Steffanx> I was in doubt, but i decided to not do that jadew :P
2017-09-23T21:09:10 < jadew> Steffanx, it's not nasty or anything, just... graphic
2017-09-23T21:09:19 < jadew> it's probably from a documentary
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2017-09-23T21:20:27 < Steffanx> dongs spotted: http://media.dumpert.nl/720p/_09ce8a2c_YTDL_1.mp4.mp4.mp4
2017-09-23T21:20:36 < Steffanx> ( yes, .mp4x3
2017-09-23T21:21:28 < jadew> he's a little off beat
2017-09-23T21:27:38 < karlp> "tried to kill himself" "got bitten by a mamba"  was that really a suicide attempt?
2017-09-23T21:29:08 < Steffanx> You never know in russia
2017-09-23T21:29:12 < Steffanx> still looking for a sores
2017-09-23T21:29:32 < karlp> (zyp: if vlans are affecting your latency & jitter, you're just not spending enough on switch gear)
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2017-09-23T21:34:24 < BrainDamage> http://sciops.net/images/uhh.jpg
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2017-09-23T21:58:00 < upgrdman> anyone here tried both opencl and cuda?
2017-09-23T22:06:06 < abiogenesis> someone an F7 and a running HD44780 lib ? cant get it run :/
2017-09-23T22:06:54 < jpa-> why would one connect a hd44780 display to F7 :P
2017-09-23T22:07:39 < abiogenesis> maybe to get in touch with hardware, im a newbie.
2017-09-23T22:07:52 < abiogenesis> are the timing issues so big ?
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2017-09-23T22:13:24 < upgrdman> abiogenesis, for starters, make sure your hd44780 can handle 3v3 logic
2017-09-23T22:13:51 < upgrdman> and ya, timing will need to be a little slower when using 3v3 logic if the datashit is spec'd for 5v
2017-09-23T22:15:12 < abiogenesis> in the docs stand, that VDD must be conncted to 5V source, so the LCD dont run in 3v3, right?
2017-09-23T22:42:59 < abiogenesis> someone an idea why the board stays in loop in _delay_ms() in HD44780.c ? here the main.c https://pastebin.com/mKgMMSKJ & here the HD Source: https://pastebin.com/M81GVL7r
2017-09-23T22:43:31 < abiogenesis> first of all there is some initialization. after that it calls _delay_ms() and there my board invoked shutdown
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2017-09-23T23:02:38 < Rob235> bye bye tablet :(
2017-09-23T23:06:31 < karlp> BrainDamage: I thought tthey were meant to be red? http://aiju.de/electronics/aijuboard/
2017-09-23T23:06:59 < karlp> what's the story with it?
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2017-09-23T23:08:50 < zyp> karlp, it's not about switch gear, it's a simple matter of link arbitration
2017-09-23T23:09:16 < Rob235> what do you think a good price for a galaxy tab S 32GB 10.5" WIFI is?
2017-09-23T23:09:49 < zyp> karlp, even with vlans, only one packet can be transferred at a time over a single link
2017-09-23T23:10:22 < zyp> karlp, and in a worst case condition with a 1500B packet, the link will be busy for 120us
2017-09-23T23:12:02 < karlp> and thats only if you enforce mtu of 1500 ;)
2017-09-23T23:12:04 < zyp> unless you'll somehow abort transmission of a low-prio packet if a high-prio packet come in while it's halfway through, then the high prio packet will have to wait
2017-09-23T23:12:19 < karlp> and yes, welcome to qos theory
2017-09-23T23:18:23 < zyp> AFAIK, diffserv and the likes doesn't abort transfers
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2017-09-24T00:40:05 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/AJxr30r
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2017-09-24T02:16:23 < Laurenceb_> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.00425.pdf
2017-09-24T02:16:26 < Laurenceb_> its happened
2017-09-24T02:16:35 < Laurenceb_> someone wrote a paper on trolling
2017-09-24T02:16:47 < Laurenceb_> lol @ windows fanboy examples
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2017-09-24T02:55:16 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKX2x5lWkAAYpke.jpg
2017-09-24T02:55:21 < Laurenceb_> literally 1984
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2017-09-24T04:35:40 < Rob235> Whats wrong with 1984? thats the year I was born
2017-09-24T04:35:56 < Rob235> I'm much more successful though
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2017-09-24T04:49:40 < Rob235> grr
2017-09-24T04:55:59 < stvn> cash flip mate
2017-09-24T04:56:02 < stvn> nigger notes
2017-09-24T04:58:30 < Rob235> grr my list of things I cant figure out for this website are adding up
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2017-09-24T10:31:00 < ReadErr> https://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_736235.html?wid=21
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2017-09-24T12:29:29 < stvn> nigger technology
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2017-09-24T13:15:59 < Steffanx> How is ranewen nowadays, superbia ?
2017-09-24T13:19:30 < Steffanx> He was my favourite romanian, then he disappeared
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2017-09-24T13:23:11 < Steffanx> No gave up on that. Together with the hope to ever see ranewen again
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2017-09-24T13:30:22 < Steffanx> Macbook pro?
2017-09-24T13:32:21 < Steffanx> Back to serious: Welcome back superbia :)
2017-09-24T13:43:15 < jadew> when do we get the election results?
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2017-09-24T13:45:29 < Steffanx> with "the" election you mean the german one?
2017-09-24T13:45:39 < jadew> yeah
2017-09-24T13:45:56 < Steffanx> probably takes a while as its done on paper
2017-09-24T13:46:12 < jadew> ah
2017-09-24T13:47:13 < jadew> pfew... my heart rate monitor was showing >200
2017-09-24T13:47:49 < Steffanx> in dutchland we vote on paper as well, since they hacked the computers and the found out you can see who voted what due to emissions...
2017-09-24T13:47:55 < jadew> I've been sick since yesterday and I let the fever do its thing and it seems that heart rate goes up with temperature (had 140 in bed)
2017-09-24T13:48:15 < jadew> Steffanx, hah
2017-09-24T13:48:54 < Steffanx> but 200.. damn
2017-09-24T13:48:58 < Steffanx> while in rest
2017-09-24T13:49:10 < jadew> yeah, it was a bug
2017-09-24T13:49:53 < jadew> but I have a 39.5 fever now so I didn't know what to think
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2017-09-24T13:54:04 < Steffanx> oh lol, did i troll superbia away? :D
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2017-09-24T14:02:26 < upgrdman> read a book on multithreading. "However, the use of strong typing to eliminate deadlock or race conditions have
2017-09-24T14:02:26 < upgrdman> not found adoption probably because they conflict with the less strict traditions of popular
2017-09-24T14:02:26 < upgrdman> programming languages." how does strong typing prevent deadlock or race conditions??
2017-09-24T14:04:06 < zyp> wat
2017-09-24T14:05:14 < upgrdman> ya my thoughts exactly
2017-09-24T14:05:33 < jadew> what book is that?
2017-09-24T14:05:46 < jadew> maybe the author got confused midsentence?
2017-09-24T14:06:04 < upgrdman> multithreading for visual effects
2017-09-24T14:06:04 < jadew> is the rest of the book making sense?
2017-09-24T14:06:12 < upgrdman> page 10
2017-09-24T14:06:17 < jadew> heh
2017-09-24T14:06:19 < upgrdman> ya the book seems fine.
2017-09-24T14:06:52 < upgrdman> earlier he was talking about programming to "tasks instead of threads" ... so maybe he's considering a Task class as a strong type that can prevent the programmer from doing stupid shit.
2017-09-24T14:07:14 < upgrdman> kinda lika java Futures or whatever
2017-09-24T14:08:13 < Steffanx> you can never prevent a programmer from doing stupid shit :P
2017-09-24T14:08:29 < upgrdman> ok fine, s/prevent/make it difficulter
2017-09-24T14:12:52 < zyp> python is trying hard
2017-09-24T14:13:02 < zyp> the GIL prevents a lot of threading issues
2017-09-24T14:13:13 < zyp> by basically rendering multithreading useless
2017-09-24T14:13:34 < upgrdman> gil ?
2017-09-24T14:13:39 < zyp> global interpreter lock
2017-09-24T14:13:57 < upgrdman> is that like python's version of __disable_irq() ?
2017-09-24T14:14:12 < zyp> I guess you can say that
2017-09-24T14:14:20 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-24T14:14:46 < zyp> it basically just makes it possible to have one active thread of a time
2017-09-24T14:15:04 < zyp> which means there's no performance benefit from multithreading on a multicore cpu
2017-09-24T14:15:31 < jadew> how about IO stuff?
2017-09-24T14:15:35 < jadew> is that blocking?
2017-09-24T14:16:05 < jadew> node "fixed" the multithreading thing in a similar fashion
2017-09-24T14:16:13 < zyp> well, you could have one thread blocking for IO while others run, so that's fair enough
2017-09-24T14:16:16 < jadew> there's only one thread running at a time
2017-09-24T14:16:25 < jadew> but IO calls can be async
2017-09-24T14:16:33 < zyp> yeah
2017-09-24T14:17:10 < zyp> python has stuff for that too, there's a whole asyncio framework with coroutines and futures and stuff
2017-09-24T14:17:34 < jadew> it sadly cripples it as a language, because you can't do CPU intensive tasks in the language itself
2017-09-24T14:17:45 < jadew> you have to do it in a plugin
2017-09-24T14:18:20 < zyp> how so?
2017-09-24T14:18:51 < jadew> well, you can't do a for loop while at the same time doing something else
2017-09-24T14:19:05 < jadew> so if you have a request that's CPU intensive, it will block the whole thing
2017-09-24T14:19:30 < jadew> the way I understand it is that it works in frames of execution
2017-09-24T14:19:47 < jadew> (being event driven)
2017-09-24T14:20:06 < zyp> well, from a single core perspective, there's no big difference
2017-09-24T14:20:11 < jadew> so when an event is being handled, nothing else can run, then when it finishes, maybe the callback from an async call will be called
2017-09-24T14:20:26 < jadew> yeah, but nothing is single core these days
2017-09-24T14:20:41 < zyp> scheduling tasks 111222333 or 123123123 doesn't make a big difference on how long time it'll take in total
2017-09-24T14:21:01 < zyp> and the common way of scaling to multiple cores is having multiple worker processes
2017-09-24T14:21:25 < jadew> well, there's also the thing that you may have a task that finishes in 1 second and another one that finishes in 3 hours
2017-09-24T14:21:37 < jadew> you don't want to wait for the 3 hours one in order to run the 1 second one
2017-09-24T14:22:09 < zyp> when they are in isolated memory spaces, you avoid all the threadsafety concerns as well
2017-09-24T14:22:31 < jadew> yeah, but in node they aren't
2017-09-24T14:22:51 < zyp> no?
2017-09-24T14:22:56 < jadew> for example a node web application has only one instance
2017-09-24T14:23:06 < zyp> I'm not familiar with node, but I'd be surprised if they didn't do worker processes
2017-09-24T14:23:08 < jadew> and all the requests are handled by the same thing
2017-09-24T14:23:57 < jadew> I haven't found anything of the sort yet
2017-09-24T14:24:37 < zyp> https://nodejs.org/api/cluster.html <- this seems to be the node way of handling it
2017-09-24T14:24:48 < zyp> judging by a 30 sec google search
2017-09-24T14:26:01 < jadew> so it's basically forking
2017-09-24T14:26:14 < jadew> I guess they reason they named it cluster was so it doesn't give people the wrong idea
2017-09-24T14:26:41 < jadew> so you don't use them as threads, but as paralel handlers
2017-09-24T14:26:49 < zyp> exactly
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2017-09-24T16:08:29 < upgrdman> what is a good name for this part of a chart:  http://www.farrellf.com/temp/chart_thing.mp4   im thinking "marker" but not sure
2017-09-24T16:11:59 < zyp> label?
2017-09-24T16:12:06 < zyp> cursor?
2017-09-24T16:12:21 < zyp> dick?
2017-09-24T16:15:24 < upgrdman> lol
2017-09-24T16:15:28 < upgrdman> ok
2017-09-24T16:31:41 < Steffanx> i would call it it a data point tooltip :P
2017-09-24T16:31:44 < Steffanx> -it
2017-09-24T16:35:08 < Steffanx> Markers are those square/circle/things you have at the data point
2017-09-24T16:35:45 < Steffanx> s
2017-09-24T16:37:05 < Steffanx> a label i would assume to be always there, your current thingy is only there on mouse over.
2017-09-24T16:39:09 < upgrdman> ya i was calling it a tooltip in my code :) just wasn't sure if it was a decent name
2017-09-24T16:39:20 < Steffanx> they call it a tooltip here: https://www.scichart.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/scichart-wpf-chart-example-using-cursormodifier-tooltips.png :)
2017-09-24T16:39:58 < Steffanx> but im biased, as I used that lib quiet extensively a year (or so) ago
2017-09-24T16:40:16 < upgrdman> nice
2017-09-24T16:40:27 < upgrdman> does scichart handle large datasets well?
2017-09-24T16:40:34 < Steffanx> Quiet well yes.
2017-09-24T16:41:52 < upgrdman> hmm
2017-09-24T16:42:03 < upgrdman> i should download their demo and see how it compared to me software
2017-09-24T16:42:30 < Steffanx> They do some DirectX mode too
2017-09-24T16:43:05 < Steffanx> but .net and no java
2017-09-24T16:45:16 < upgrdman> hmm. looking at their own benchmarks, i might be very close or even faster in soem cases.
2017-09-24T16:45:17 < upgrdman> https://www.scichart.com/how-fast-is-scichart-wpf-chart/
2017-09-24T16:45:50 < upgrdman> actually wait, no, im much faster. im near what they show when using intel integrated gpu.
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2017-09-24T16:48:36 < dale6998> Hi All
2017-09-24T16:48:48 < dale6998> anyone had any luck with this programmer?https://www.amazon.com/WINGONEER-Cortex-M0-Cortex-M3-interface-Programmer/dp/B012VR3PVA
2017-09-24T16:49:54 < upgrdman> dale6998, i use the $3 ebay stlink's with good luck
2017-09-24T16:50:01 < upgrdman> and theyre more compact too
2017-09-24T16:51:02 < dale6998> yeah, i'm getting this error from STLink:  init mode failed (unable ot connect to the target)
2017-09-24T16:51:31 < dale6998> not sure who to blame here...the programmer, my programming environment, the actual hardware or something else
2017-09-24T16:52:53 < upgrdman> prolly the cable or pinout is wrong
2017-09-24T16:52:56 < dale6998> i'm trying to program over swd...Here's the schematic, https://imgur.com/a/lcyWW if you're interested in checking the pinouts...J6 is the programming header
2017-09-24T16:53:11 < upgrdman> or pcb problems (bad solder, traces, etc.)
2017-09-24T16:54:11 < dale6998> also, i have no external capacitors at the moment...my rework ruined the last board, so i'm trying to build a minimal setup and test along the way on this next build (i got 10 pcbs that i'm assembling)
2017-09-24T16:55:10 < dale6998> so, i've got reset pulled up, and boot0 pulled low, but no external caps anywhere yet....i wanted to see if it would at least say "hey, I can talk to this chip" first...then i was going to go through the trouble of putting hte 0402's on there
2017-09-24T16:57:49 < dale6998> could that be the problem, or are you still thinking PCB/pinout problems?
2017-09-24T17:08:55 < ReadError> upgrdman: in china still
2017-09-24T17:08:56 < ReadError> ?
2017-09-24T17:09:11 < upgrdman> ReadError, no, back in the first world luckily
2017-09-24T17:09:19 < ReadErr> oh lame
2017-09-24T17:09:33 < upgrdman> lol how so
2017-09-24T17:10:00 < ReadErr> i wanted you to go play with that tablet and lmk if its any nice or not
2017-09-24T17:10:56 < upgrdman> lol
2017-09-24T17:11:07 < upgrdman> that celeron surface pro clone?
2017-09-24T17:11:21 < ReadErr> https://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_736235.html?wid=21 ya that one
2017-09-24T17:11:54 < upgrdman> ya looks like typical china clone. prolly going to get what you pay for
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2017-09-24T17:12:14 < ReadErr> ive had a 80$ win10 one for a bit over a year
2017-09-24T17:12:16 < ReadErr> its held up
2017-09-24T17:12:16 < kakimir> I did hot tubbing yesterday englishman
2017-09-24T17:12:22 < ReadErr> but the screen is 8"
2017-09-24T17:12:31 < ReadErr> and 2gb
2017-09-24T17:12:38 < ReadErr> same brand and all
2017-09-24T17:13:07 < ReadErr> ive not seen anything else china offers of this caliber but its also not released yet
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2017-09-24T17:14:03 < ReadErr> http://en.chuwi.com/product/items/Chuwi-SurBook.html
2017-09-24T17:14:10 < ReadErr> better page about it
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2017-09-24T17:14:42 < upgrdman> "intel latest apollo lake" ...
2017-09-24T17:14:52 < upgrdman> dafuq. is apollo lake even out yet?
2017-09-24T17:14:55 < Steffanx> chuwi.. my chuwi worked pretty well
2017-09-24T17:15:11 < Steffanx> getting drivers to work properly was the most annoying issue.
2017-09-24T17:15:40 < Steffanx> https://ark.intel.com/products/95596/Intel-Celeron-Processor-N3450-2M-Cache-up-to-2_2-GHz ...
2017-09-24T17:15:56 < ReadErr> Launch Q3'16
2017-09-24T17:16:03 < ReadErr> ya its not that old
2017-09-24T17:16:41 < Steffanx> nice screen resolution
2017-09-24T17:16:57 < ReadErr> ya Steffanx was about to say
2017-09-24T17:16:59 < ReadErr> thats my fav part
2017-09-24T17:17:05 < ReadErr> the ratio and size and pixels
2017-09-24T17:17:16 < upgrdman> only 8hr battery though :/
2017-09-24T17:17:18 < ReadErr> samsung too
2017-09-24T17:17:29 < ReadErr> lol if im 8hrs w/o being able to plug in
2017-09-24T17:17:32 < ReadErr> kms
2017-09-24T17:17:39 < upgrdman> my pro4 lasts >13hrs when im flying (airplane mode and lowest backlight though)
2017-09-24T17:18:01 < tpw_rules> i think phone manufs are just gonna give up on batteries in the next generation
2017-09-24T17:18:14 < tpw_rules> like they'll put in 500mah and expect everyone to carry around a usb bank
2017-09-24T17:18:38 < tpw_rules> everyone buy stock in anker
2017-09-24T17:18:59 < ReadErr> how is that pen shit upgrdman
2017-09-24T17:19:15 < ReadErr> man those livestreamers
2017-09-24T17:19:19 < upgrdman> i played with the pen when i got it, then the novelty wore off
2017-09-24T17:19:20 < ReadErr> are so bad at battery
2017-09-24T17:19:27 < ReadErr> they are constantly running out
2017-09-24T17:19:47 < upgrdman> i just dock to 4k monitor + usb mechanical keyboard... or use it as a tablet.
2017-09-24T17:20:01 < upgrdman> i have the keyboard cover but almost never use it either.
2017-09-24T17:20:38 < ReadErr> https://www.amazon.com/Windows-CHUWI-Android-Display-featuring/dp/B01NCO6P93/
2017-09-24T17:20:44 < ReadErr> heres the other I was looking at
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2017-09-24T17:23:57 < ReadErr> tpw_rules: maybe hold off on investing, https://slickdeals.net/f/10588156-frys-hypergear-16000mah-dual-usb-portable-battery-pack-only-on-9-22-with-email-promocode-12-99
2017-09-24T17:24:25 < tpw_rules> $13 for that much lithium pack?
2017-09-24T17:24:32 < tpw_rules> uh
2017-09-24T17:25:31 < abiogenesis> what does it mean when GDB says "shutdown command invoked"? just wanted to generate an IRQ for letting my LED flash when the userbutton is pressed
2017-09-24T17:25:58 < abiogenesis> https://pastebin.com/c4vqFL0T
2017-09-24T17:26:03 < abiogenesis> this is the code
2017-09-24T17:26:52 < tpw_rules> i think that's the last step it does after programming
2017-09-24T17:26:55 < tpw_rules> then it should boot into debug mode
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2017-09-24T17:29:19 < abiogenesis> tpw_rules: and now ?
2017-09-24T17:29:28 < tpw_rules> what do you mean?
2017-09-24T17:29:33 < tpw_rules> like i'm not sure what's going on at all
2017-09-24T17:29:48 < tpw_rules> does it work? do you get an irq? why is gdb involved? are the questions related?
2017-09-24T17:30:01 < abiogenesis> i want to implement an simple interrupt via the PC13 Userbutton, if it is pressed, the LED should flash
2017-09-24T17:30:15 < abiogenesis> if i "run" in eclipse, the last line is "shutdown command invoked"
2017-09-24T17:30:21 < abiogenesis> nothing happens
2017-09-24T17:30:46 < tpw_rules> that means your code is running
2017-09-24T17:30:58 < tpw_rules> try flashing the led without any of the interrupt stuff to test
2017-09-24T17:31:39 < abiogenesis> ok sorry now it works
2017-09-24T17:31:50 < tpw_rules> so then the problem is in your code somehwere
2017-09-24T17:31:58 < abiogenesis> used an wrong PIN number.. i have to learn a lot..
2017-09-24T17:31:58 < tpw_rules> and gdb and eclipse are doing their job
2017-09-24T17:32:02 < tpw_rules> oh
2017-09-24T17:32:14 < tpw_rules> heh, that's okay. 90% of this job is carefully reading documentation
2017-09-24T17:32:43 < abiogenesis> yes i will,
2017-09-24T17:32:57 < abiogenesis> i want to write an function that delays in ms and us with an interrupt.
2017-09-24T17:33:07 < abiogenesis> now i have one working, and now i have to timing it.
2017-09-24T17:33:17 < tpw_rules> HAL already has one
2017-09-24T17:33:50 < abiogenesis> HAL_Delay() ? but only in ms or?
2017-09-24T17:34:06 < tpw_rules> it's only in ms. i think there's a us version somewhere?
2017-09-24T17:34:09 < tpw_rules> i don't remember
2017-09-24T17:34:22 < englishman> kakimir: good to hear. did the same last night and thismorning
2017-09-24T17:36:33 < abiogenesis> tpw_rules: ok, i will search for it
2017-09-24T17:36:50 < abiogenesis> tpw_rules: but with a already running function i wont learn anything
2017-09-24T17:37:06 < abiogenesis> if i write it for my own, i will learn much more i think
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2017-09-24T17:47:12 < abiogenesis> i want to measure the time of signals in I/O case. i picked PF13, Initialized it with OUTPUT mode and NOPull and low speed.. in the while(1) i have an HAL_delay(50), after that i toggle with HAL_GPIO_TogglePin.. i cant see anything inn saleae logic..
2017-09-24T17:47:52 < dale6998> pin one is found by the round indent on the package, not the orientation of the lettering, correct?
2017-09-24T17:48:13 < abiogenesis> D7 on the Board, PF13 in the manual
2017-09-24T17:48:41 < zyp> you forgot to turn on GPIOF in RCC
2017-09-24T17:48:52 < abiogenesis> yes zyp i see it
2017-09-24T17:49:24 < abiogenesis> it works
2017-09-24T17:57:41 < kakimir> unfortunatelly I was one to do all the work
2017-09-24T17:58:08 < kakimir> took a whole day
2017-09-24T17:58:19 < abiogenesis> if i run HAL_Delay(1) T=1,005ms .. if i run HAL_Delay(0.1) T = 12,37 us.. why HAL_Delay support "floats" i thought uint32_t ?
2017-09-24T17:59:49 < zyp> abiogenesis, what makes you think it does?
2017-09-24T18:00:28 < abiogenesis> zyp: it doesnt work, because the tolerance is too big.. but i thought of getting an error for using a wrong datatype
2017-09-24T18:00:49 < zyp> this is not java
2017-09-24T18:01:29 < zyp> type coercion converts it into an integer, which means that your 0.1 turns into 0
2017-09-24T18:02:43 < zyp> so your 12.37 us is actually a zero-delay plus overhead
2017-09-24T18:04:15 < abiogenesis> ok, i found a "dirty" solution with nops, getting the HCKL and dividing it..
2017-09-24T18:04:30 < abiogenesis> with the internal sysTick i can get precisicly 1us?
2017-09-24T18:05:14 < zyp> precise in what way?
2017-09-24T18:06:03 < abiogenesis> zyp: ive just started with the stm32, i want to initialize an HD44780 on my own, i read that i have to send some bitcombinations in a certain timerange to initialize it..
2017-09-24T18:06:26 < zyp> oh, right
2017-09-24T18:06:29 < abiogenesis> to solve the problem, i want to create a precise delay function.
2017-09-24T18:06:38 < zyp> that doesn't need precision
2017-09-24T18:06:45 < zyp> you just need delays that are long enough
2017-09-24T18:07:02 < zyp> rounding up to whatever precision you can do always works
2017-09-24T18:07:04 < abiogenesis> zyp: ah, so the display just needs the bits AFTER a amount of time and not till ?
2017-09-24T18:09:59 < zyp> yes, it takes the display controller a given time to sample the data bits and act on them, and you need to leave them unchanged until that has happened
2017-09-24T18:11:01 < zyp> picture me holding out a note for you to read, but pulling it away before you have a chance to read it
2017-09-24T18:11:52 < zyp> that's essentially what you're doing if you're changing the data lines too fast
2017-09-24T18:12:50 < abiogenesis> okay
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2017-09-24T22:17:24 < Steffanx> So have footage from the mamba incident yet, Thorn?
2017-09-24T22:18:19 < Thorn> I do
2017-09-24T22:44:34 < Steffanx> Some guy got bitten by a snake live on russian TV. but Thorn doesnt want to share it seems
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2017-09-24T22:50:27 < Thorn> ><Steffanx> but better not post, as it's mr lb_-ware and we dont need that
2017-09-24T22:50:40 < Steffanx> there are other ways to share :P
2017-09-24T22:52:18 < Steffanx> but youre right
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2017-09-25T00:04:43 < karlp> I don't get how this thinks it can test usb pd, when it doesn't draw any load. https://www.crowdsupply.com/usbcee/tiny-pat/
2017-09-25T00:08:57 < tpw_rules> karlp: it has two big holes for you to attach a load
2017-09-25T00:09:04 < tpw_rules> VBUS and GND
2017-09-25T00:10:24 < BrainDamage> it says optional tough
2017-09-25T00:10:35 < BrainDamage> maybe it only tests for power on a very short time
2017-09-25T00:10:56 < BrainDamage> if you integrate 100W on a us, then even a shitty smd resistor won't explode
2017-09-25T00:11:11 < BrainDamage> altought it won't necessarily be a reliable test of a psu
2017-09-25T00:11:58 < tpw_rules> i don't think it tests power draw. the page seems to be about transition time/protocol stuff
2017-09-25T00:24:31 < englishman> theres a lot behind PD before you even get to load testing
2017-09-25T00:24:47 < englishman> but at $40 isnt there a way better PD analuzer that dongs bought
2017-09-25T00:24:53 < englishman> from a real company
2017-09-25T00:26:41 < kakimir> how do I know if exploded motor capacitor had PCB oil inside it?
2017-09-25T00:28:12 < kakimir> inside submerged pump
2017-09-25T00:28:22 < kakimir> smells bad
2017-09-25T00:28:55 < kakimir> and causes irritation on skin
2017-09-25T00:31:04 < kakimir> capacitor is a way smaller than legit similar size one so it causes it to explode
2017-09-25T00:31:25 < BrainDamage> drink a handful, if you develop chloracne, it's dioxins from the burnt PCBs
2017-09-25T00:32:37 < sync> kakimir: burn the oil, if the flame is green, it most likely contains pcbs
2017-09-25T00:39:17 < kakimir> BrainDamage: good to know it takes handful
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2017-09-25T00:40:16 < kakimir> sync: how do I burn it?
2017-09-25T00:40:19 < kakimir> in a wick
2017-09-25T00:40:22 < kakimir> ?
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2017-09-25T00:40:47 < kakimir> sync: what makes it green?
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2017-09-25T00:49:23 < sync> the pcbs
2017-09-25T00:51:01 < kakimir> have you come across with pcb compounds?
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2017-09-25T00:58:41 < aandrew> karlp: I particularly like how on their page they show a device indicating both pass and fail
2017-09-25T00:58:44 < aandrew> (at the same time)
2017-09-25T00:59:22 < aandrew> karlp: it's not a load test, it only verifies that the requested voltage is delivered
2017-09-25T01:33:50 < sync> yes I had some shit with pcb oil in it kakimir
2017-09-25T02:09:18 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/JT7V4II
2017-09-25T02:12:46 < Laurenceb_> AfD bekommt 88 Sitze
2017-09-25T02:13:57 < dale6998> Hey, has anyone used this programmer before?  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012VR3PVA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
2017-09-25T02:16:21 < Rob235> damn javascript
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2017-09-25T04:24:46 < dale6998> k
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2017-09-25T04:38:41 < Cracki> 14%
2017-09-25T04:38:44 < Cracki> (not quite)
2017-09-25T04:56:20 < englishman> dale6998: looks like typical chinese st-dink clone
2017-09-25T04:56:31 < englishman> really just get one from digikey they are like $20
2017-09-25T04:56:43 < englishman> they are properly voltage buffered and also support stm8
2017-09-25T04:57:00 < englishman> like its cheap and good enough to not warrant a chinese clone
2017-09-25T04:57:50 < englishman> they also come with an ARM standardized conncetor instead of a random whatever 10pin
2017-09-25T05:31:07 < jadew> https://i.imgur.com/zbW6TLc.gifv
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2017-09-25T05:42:00 < stvn> welcome englishman
2017-09-25T05:42:06 < englishman> stvn
2017-09-25T05:42:07 < englishman> hi
2017-09-25T05:42:11 < englishman> i have news
2017-09-25T05:42:13 < stvn> o/
2017-09-25T05:42:16 < stvn> pls
2017-09-25T05:42:18 < englishman> kitten news
2017-09-25T05:42:22 < stvn> present the findings
2017-09-25T05:42:39 < englishman> i will take this to pm as it is personal kitten news
2017-09-25T05:42:43 < englishman> groundbreaking kitten news
2017-09-25T05:44:03 < stvn> k
2017-09-25T05:46:37 < emeb> everyone loves kitten news, no?
2017-09-25T05:50:50 < stvn> better ask stffn
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2017-09-25T08:09:19 < dale6998> hey, sorry, i just saw your response
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2017-09-25T09:42:34 < jadew``> https://imgur.com/gallery/IwTILDB
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2017-09-25T10:16:21 < zyp> not super impressed by freertos' fpu support
2017-09-25T10:17:28 < zyp> I ran into some weird bug where a multiplication in one task caused another task to misbehave
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2017-09-25T10:18:41 < PaulFertser> Managed to solve it yet? It would be strange if context saving worked properly for GPRs but not for the FPU as they're doing that at the same time by the same means.
2017-09-25T10:18:54 < zyp> yes, I solved it
2017-09-25T10:19:31 < zyp> turns out that every task using the fpu needs to call vPortTaskUsesFPU()
2017-09-25T10:19:42 < zyp> and I didn't find that documented anywhere
2017-09-25T10:19:57 < zyp> function doesn't even have a prototype in any headers
2017-09-25T10:21:24 < zyp> and tasks not calling it doesn't trap on fpu instructions or anything either, so there's no indication there's anything wrong, until you get a conflict somewhere
2017-09-25T10:22:33 < zyp> a sane implementation would at least disallow fpu instructions in tasks that haven't asked for access
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2017-09-25T10:25:46 < PaulFertser> Heh, too smart/optimised implementation leading to too nasty and confusing results.
2017-09-25T10:26:59 < zyp> I'd say it's the opposite of smart
2017-09-25T10:27:36 < zyp> note, this is cortex-r and I don't know if its fpu is harder to work with than cortex-m
2017-09-25T10:28:02 < zyp> but on cortex-m you can certainly autodetect when the fpu is required
2017-09-25T10:28:17 < PaulFertser> Cortex-R is closer in all regards to Cortex-A, just that it's lacking MMU, right?
2017-09-25T10:29:40 < ohsix> lul
2017-09-25T10:29:54 < ohsix> i got a 500$ check in the mail saturday over one of the class action settlementshits i mentioned in here
2017-09-25T10:30:01 < ohsix> unrelated https://twitter.com/storborg/status/912013856808955904
2017-09-25T10:34:56 < zyp> PaulFertser, yeah, I believe so
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2017-09-25T10:38:31 < ohsix> ReadErr: did you see the people that made the stm32/oled soldering iron made some sort of electric screwdriver/torque wrench
2017-09-25T10:38:58 < ohsix> https://www.banggood.com/MINI-ES120-Mini-Motion-Control-Electric-Screwdriver-Smart-Repair-Tools-Built-in-STM32-Chip-p-1160943.html
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2017-09-25T10:39:46 < ohsix> oh haha, neat; marco reps video is embedded in there
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2017-09-25T11:44:02 < stvn> clean as a whistle
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2017-09-25T13:18:12 < upgrdman> in desktop chrome, is it possible to zoom in like pinch-to-zoom without using a gesture? ctrl-+/- isn't the same.
2017-09-25T13:18:45 < tomeaton17> ctrl + scroll wheel?
2017-09-25T13:18:52 < jadew> yeah, but that goes in steps too
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2017-09-25T13:19:20 < tomeaton17> Get a higher resolution scroll wheel? :p
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2017-09-25T13:19:35 < jadew> ah, think it's tied to that?
2017-09-25T13:20:19 < tomeaton17> Not sure, potentially but probably not, I expect it just zooms in a fraction at every step of the wheel
2017-09-25T13:20:20 < jadew> for me it's the same as +/-
2017-09-25T13:22:48 < tomeaton17> Yeah. I know you can enable smooth zoom in the flags, but don't know about zoom
2017-09-25T13:22:54 < tomeaton17> Perhaps there is an extension?
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2017-09-25T13:26:09 < Steffanx> stvn: bok
2017-09-25T13:26:18 < stvn> greetings stffn
2017-09-25T13:26:54 < Steffanx> Hows ya doin mate?
2017-09-25T13:27:12 < stvn> yeah alright
2017-09-25T13:27:15 < stvn> and you?
2017-09-25T13:27:34 < Steffanx> Same. Back to work after holiday -_-
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2017-09-25T13:27:42 < stvn> nice
2017-09-25T13:28:25 < Steffanx> Nah
2017-09-25T13:29:02 < stvn> oh
2017-09-25T13:30:07 < stvn> the dogs
2017-09-25T13:30:26 < jpa-> upgrdman: apparently touchpad pinch-zoom might work in desktop chrome also
2017-09-25T13:30:40 < stvn> Steffanx, what do you do on holidays?
2017-09-25T13:32:53 < upgrdman> jpa-, ya im looking for a hotkey :/ desktop without touchpad.
2017-09-25T13:32:59 < upgrdman> tomeaton17, that's different.
2017-09-25T13:33:06 < jpa-> buy a touchscreen :P
2017-09-25T13:33:14 < upgrdman> tomeaton17, ctrl+scroll is the same as ctrl-+/-
2017-09-25T13:33:37 < upgrdman> pinch to zoom stretches everything, it does NOT reflow text/graphics like ctrl-scroll does
2017-09-25T13:36:18 < tomeaton17> Not sure then
2017-09-25T13:47:11 < stvn> Steffanx, my last story was about three lesbians and a fire in a kitchen
2017-09-25T13:48:22 < Steffanx> Nothing stvn
2017-09-25T13:50:26 < stvn> why nothing?!
2017-09-25T13:50:53 < Steffanx> Because you are so far away
2017-09-25T13:51:06 < Steffanx> Otherwise i would visit
2017-09-25T13:51:13 < stvn> i see
2017-09-25T13:51:39 < Steffanx> Fyi everything over 100km is far away ;)
2017-09-25T13:51:46 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-25T13:53:51 < Steffanx> Hows Peter?
2017-09-25T13:54:25 < stvn> i dunno
2017-09-25T14:18:22 < stvn> steffan are you using gnu/linux
2017-09-25T14:27:54 < karlp> "MIPS is a technology used by software to tell processors what to do."
2017-09-25T14:30:41 < stvn> o,O
2017-09-25T14:35:57 < Thorn> https://vk.com/bobcattv?w=wall-125845245_61054
2017-09-25T14:36:16 < stvn> should i click that
2017-09-25T14:37:11 < kakimir> probs a bobcat
2017-09-25T14:38:05 < kakimir> okay some russian vk post just text
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2017-09-25T14:47:06 < kakimir> englishman: https://postimg.org/image/bavpsmqud/
2017-09-25T14:47:36 < kakimir> old style
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2017-09-25T14:52:45 < Rob235> someone help me with css!
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2017-09-25T15:07:49 < tomeaton17> Why do you need to use CSS unlucky man
2017-09-25T15:32:10 < Rob235> trying to make a fancy website to control my robot
2017-09-25T15:32:23 < Rob235> has a esp8266 im using as a webserver
2017-09-25T15:32:50 < Rob235> havent done much web dev, this is what I got so far: https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-09-25T15:36:29 < englishman> kakimir: original usage as a torture chamber
2017-09-25T15:41:49 < Rob235> ahh fixed it sweet
2017-09-25T15:43:00 < kakimir> looks like place to gut things doesnt it?
2017-09-25T16:02:40 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/kVZnq  which dropdown menu icon looks better, arrow or bars?
2017-09-25T16:12:02 < Rob235> bars it is: https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
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2017-09-25T16:40:15 < englishman> fuck samtec
2017-09-25T16:42:39 < Steffanx> No ty.
2017-09-25T16:46:19 < Laurenceb> fuck public transport
2017-09-25T16:46:35 < Laurenceb> full of ppl even weirder than average irc user
2017-09-25T16:50:35 < englishman> "can you guarantee 5 days"
2017-09-25T16:50:38 < englishman> "uhh yea i guess"
2017-09-25T16:50:41  * englishman places order
2017-09-25T16:50:48 < englishman> "itl be 3 weeks lolollololo"
2017-09-25T17:02:54 < englishman> 2nd time in 2 weeks
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2017-09-25T17:14:49 < englishman> welcome back to work steffy https://media.giphy.com/media/Rsjxzfs7GfFU4/giphy.gif
2017-09-25T17:17:13 < zyp> fucking TI and fucking proprietary debug connectors and fucking useless adapters
2017-09-25T17:19:21 < zyp> so, I have hardware arriving in a couple of weeks, looking at buying a debugger for it
2017-09-25T17:19:52 < zyp> the "obvious" choice for something to go with the TI tools is XDS110
2017-09-25T17:20:42 < zyp> it's $100, so it's not overly expensive
2017-09-25T17:21:11 < zyp> but it has some retarded 50x100mil pitch 20-pin connector with proprietary pinout
2017-09-25T17:21:51 < zyp> it includes adapters for "ARM 10-pin", "ARM 20-pin" and "TI 14-pin"
2017-09-25T17:22:14 < zyp> only the latter includes nTRST
2017-09-25T17:22:30 < englishman> according to the [UNBOXING] it includes adapters at least
2017-09-25T17:22:30 < englishman> yeah
2017-09-25T17:22:46 < zyp> TI hercules requires nTRST (it's pulled down by default to disable the debugger interface when not connected)
2017-09-25T17:23:02 < zyp> and fuck proprietary interfaces
2017-09-25T17:23:29 < englishman> the age of unpaid intern design
2017-09-25T17:24:41 < englishman> which target mcu
2017-09-25T17:24:45 < zyp> TI RM4
2017-09-25T17:24:53 < englishman> and why does it look good on paper
2017-09-25T17:25:12 < englishman> oh your non stop cortex-R projects
2017-09-25T17:25:14 < zyp> kinda tempted to just buy a jlink instead, but that would be kinda hard to justify at four times the price
2017-09-25T17:25:28 < englishman> jlink works on more than four times the target MCUs tho
2017-09-25T17:25:28 < zyp> yeah, this is workstuff
2017-09-25T17:25:41 < zyp> well, yeah
2017-09-25T17:25:58 < zyp> but I don't think my employer would appreciate that
2017-09-25T17:26:00 < englishman> surprised a company like yours doesnt have one already
2017-09-25T17:26:23 < englishman> i dono man, investing in good tools is really important
2017-09-25T17:26:53 < englishman> the jlink will be in use for the next 5 years
2017-09-25T17:28:03 < fest> zyp: that's company money anyway? I bet the $300 is drop in the bucket even for a single project
2017-09-25T17:28:03 < englishman> your employer might appreciate not having to buy 5 different debuggers
2017-09-25T17:28:15 < englishman> your time is worth way way more than that
2017-09-25T17:28:17 < englishman> yes ^^
2017-09-25T17:33:27 < sync> englishman: I would not pay samtec then
2017-09-25T17:34:25 < zyp> hmm, yeah, fuckit, I'll argue for a jlink then, I guess
2017-09-25T17:38:46 < PaulFertser> btw, xds110 is CMSIS-DAP compliant afair.
2017-09-25T17:38:55 < zyp> yes, it is
2017-09-25T17:39:09 < PaulFertser> And you can control ntrst and nsrst with just about any sane ftdi-based adapter should you need it.
2017-09-25T17:39:30 < zyp> I mean, XDS110 looks nice enough, but the connector is retarded
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2017-09-25T17:40:46 < PaulFertser> TI soft is retarded too.
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2017-09-25T17:51:49 < englishman> sync: not my choice, retarded canucks at bigco are canucking me
2017-09-25T17:57:21 < c10ud> eclipse+stlink+openocd doesn't seem too bad once you get it running
2017-09-25T17:59:23 < qyx> reminds me
2017-09-25T17:59:31 < qyx> anyone implemented stm32 programming using a stm32?
2017-09-25T17:59:38 < qyx> swd only
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2017-09-25T18:17:27 < zyp> blackmagic probe
2017-09-25T18:21:45 < Thorn> segger j-link
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2017-09-25T18:43:30 < Rickta59> https://github.com/devanlai/dap42 @ qyx .. CMSIS-DAP for use with openocd
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2017-09-25T18:58:09 < Steffanx> Doesnt dongs do custom programmers like that? Standalone?
2017-09-25T18:58:28 < Steffanx> (by stealing open sores ware)
2017-09-25T18:58:41 < englishman> that was uart
2017-09-25T18:59:01 < englishman> iirc
2017-09-25T19:08:59 < Steffanx> Oh you might be right
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2017-09-25T20:59:23 < qyx> Convert the asterisk server which is writen in C to delphi xe10.2
2017-09-25T20:59:25 < qyx> sure
2017-09-25T21:06:13 < Steffanx> Delphi4ever
2017-09-25T21:06:16 < Steffanx> please use lazarus
2017-09-25T21:07:29 < Steffanx> ill dump this here: https://blog.acolyer.org/2017/09/21/clkscrew-exposing-the-perils-of-security-oblivious-energy-management/
2017-09-25T21:12:34 < qyx> another project, web tool for converting files to sha256 and back
2017-09-25T21:14:12 < Steffanx> Web. Rob235 is our new web guy
2017-09-25T21:14:34 < Rob235> meh
2017-09-25T21:15:31 < jpa-> it was misty this morning and there were a lot of webs in the forest
2017-09-25T21:18:24 < Steffanx> Breakfast :)
2017-09-25T21:21:15 < Steffanx> Still ebiking jpa- ?
2017-09-25T21:22:14 < qyx> Steffanx: neat atatck
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2017-09-25T21:53:02 < aandrew> delphi, lol
2017-09-25T21:53:19 < aandrew> Steffanx: yeah clkscrew is really interesting from how much impact it can have
2017-09-25T21:53:35 < aandrew> although really any system that is allowing non-secure software to screw with power/clocking is asking for trouble
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2017-09-25T21:56:09 < Laurenceb_> yeah like wtf
2017-09-25T21:56:27 < Laurenceb_> if virus can access clk its all going to endbadly
2017-09-25T21:57:44 < aandrew> well not a virus specifically but any untrusted code
2017-09-25T22:03:22 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKkys2kXUAIA0r2.jpg
2017-09-25T22:04:48 < BrainDamage> nowhere as good as http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/elon-musk-this-is-called-a-zipline-and-the-humans-enjoy-this-then-i-shall-enjoy-it-as-well.jpg
2017-09-25T22:13:45 < Laurenceb_> https://prophecynewsheavensoon.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/edtherapture.gif
2017-09-25T22:13:48 < Laurenceb_> coming soon
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2017-09-25T22:16:55 < Laurenceb_>  > stuff muricans believe in
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2017-09-25T22:23:09 < Laurenceb_> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/25/oxford-student-judge-suggested-bright-prison-spared-jail-stabbing/
2017-09-25T22:23:17 < Laurenceb_> not sure if onion
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2017-09-25T22:32:07 < sync> > surgeon
2017-09-25T22:34:42 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_ would be kept out of jail for the great value he adds to irc :D
2017-09-25T22:35:05 < Steffanx> Do you have the irc skill on linked in Laurenceb_
2017-09-25T22:35:06 < Steffanx> ?
2017-09-25T22:35:07  * Laurenceb_ notes this down and passes to his lawyer
2017-09-25T22:35:29 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
2017-09-25T22:37:31 < jpa-> Steffanx: wife has the ebike by summer
2017-09-25T22:37:55 < Steffanx> but summer is over..
2017-09-25T22:38:04 < Laurenceb_> what about for your wifes son?
2017-09-25T22:38:06 < Steffanx> !wz helsinki
2017-09-25T22:38:07 < dieforirc> [Helsinki, Finland] Clear. Temp is 10°C. NE wind: 7 kph. Humidity: 87%.
2017-09-25T22:38:14 < Steffanx> see, winter is coming
2017-09-25T22:38:41 < jpa-> nah, 10°C is like the top temperature this summer
2017-09-25T22:38:52 < jpa-> Laurenceb_: he goes in a bike trailer that i tow
2017-09-25T22:38:56 < englishman> !wz montreal
2017-09-25T22:38:57 < dieforirc> [Montreal Acres, Maryland] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 33.2°C but feels like 40°C. ENE wind: 2.7 kph. Humidity: 60%.
2017-09-25T22:39:01 < englishman> wtf
2017-09-25T22:39:03 < englishman> !wz montreal, quebec
2017-09-25T22:39:04 < Steffanx> lol
2017-09-25T22:39:04 < dieforirc> Unable to locate query.
2017-09-25T22:39:10 < englishman> !wz yul
2017-09-25T22:39:11 < dieforirc> [Yuli, Nigeria] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 27°C. West wind: 6 kph. Humidity: 64%.
2017-09-25T22:39:13 < englishman> omfg
2017-09-25T22:39:15 < englishman> !wz cyul
2017-09-25T22:39:16 < dieforirc> [CYUL, Canada] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 31°C. SW wind: 18 kph. Humidity: 52%.
2017-09-25T22:39:19 < Steffanx> !wz englishman
2017-09-25T22:39:20 < dieforirc> [Englishman's Bay, Trinidad And Tobago] Clear. Temp is 30.4°C but feels like 36°C. ESE wind: 3.5 kph. Humidity: 70%.
2017-09-25T22:39:24 < Laurenceb_> !wz nig
2017-09-25T22:39:25 < dieforirc> [Nigel, South Africa] Rain. Temp is 15.4°C. SW wind: 3.1 kph. Humidity: 77%.
2017-09-25T22:39:37 < Laurenceb_> !wz moonman
2017-09-25T22:39:37 < dieforirc> Unable to locate query.
2017-09-25T22:39:46 < englishman> !wz ukip
2017-09-25T22:39:47 < dieforirc> [Ukip, Nigeria] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 24°C. Humidity: 98%.
2017-09-25T22:39:55 < Laurenceb_> hahaha
2017-09-25T22:39:59 < englishman> nice
2017-09-25T22:40:05 < Steffanx> !wz lol
2017-09-25T22:40:06 < dieforirc> [Lolodorf, Cameroon] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 24°C. SW wind: 5 kph.
2017-09-25T22:40:06 < zyp> !wz haugesund
2017-09-25T22:40:07 < dieforirc> [Haugesund, Norway] Clear. Temp is 16.0°C. SSE wind: 4.0 kph. Humidity: 65%.
2017-09-25T22:40:11 < Laurenceb_> >NIG eria
2017-09-25T22:40:11 < gxti> cool something new to ignore
2017-09-25T22:40:15 < Laurenceb_> NIGE
2017-09-25T22:40:18 < Steffanx> !wz gxti
2017-09-25T22:40:19 < dieforirc> Unable to locate query.
2017-09-25T22:40:21 < Steffanx> damnit
2017-09-25T22:41:00 < Steffanx> dont you love it gxti?
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2017-09-25T22:41:16 < gxti> i have a special place in my black twisted heart for weather queries in irc
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2017-09-25T22:41:33 < englishman> !wz morrisville, nc
2017-09-25T22:41:35 < dieforirc> [Morrisville, North Carolina] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 28.6°C. NE wind: 6.0 kph. Humidity: 59%.
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2017-09-25T22:41:53 < gxti> lul
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2017-09-25T22:42:46 < Steffanx> Your bay looks pretty nice englishman
2017-09-25T22:42:50 < englishman> it does
2017-09-25T22:42:52 < englishman> i should go
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2017-09-25T23:04:09 < Steffanx> yes
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2017-09-25T23:37:12 < karlp> !wz reykjavik
2017-09-25T23:37:13 < dieforirc> [Reykjavik, Canada] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 16.7°C. NE wind: 6.0 kph. Humidity: 54%.
2017-09-25T23:37:22 < karlp> hah
2017-09-25T23:37:26 < karlp> fucking west icelanders
2017-09-25T23:37:33 < karlp> !wz reykjavik, iceland
2017-09-25T23:37:34 < dieforirc> [Reykjavik, Iceland] Overcast. Temp is 10.7°C. SE wind: 12.1 kph. Humidity: 72%.
2017-09-25T23:37:41 < karlp> only 12?
2017-09-25T23:38:09 < karlp> that... doesn't seem right.
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2017-09-25T23:53:13 < Laurenceb_> I HAVE MANY NEW IPHONE APP IDEAS TO SHARE WITH YOU
2017-09-25T23:58:37 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlfCiQTbOMg diesel power video times
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2017-09-26T00:03:39 < kakimir> need for speed - thailand
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2017-09-26T00:39:37 < englishman> Reykjavik, Canada
2017-09-26T00:39:38 < englishman> w a t
2017-09-26T00:43:46 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/gallery/JMKWA I need this french movie englishman
2017-09-26T00:44:21 < englishman> sneaky french ppl
2017-09-26T00:44:36 < englishman> subway filth is accurate
2017-09-26T00:46:02 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2PdyxMtiYM
2017-09-26T00:48:59 < Laurenceb_> I don't get subway
2017-09-26T00:49:04 < Laurenceb_> why does it reek so much
2017-09-26T00:49:54 < kakimir> people use it as a toilet sometimes
2017-09-26T00:49:59 < Laurenceb_> I remember when I first encountered subway on Oxford street in Londonistan, behind MASSIVE GOLF SALE guy
2017-09-26T00:50:20 < Laurenceb_> like "wtf why does it stick so much, obviously some sort of flavour scent system"
2017-09-26T00:51:46 < Laurenceb_> apparently not, but I don't understand what generates all the smell
2017-09-26T00:52:45 < kakimir> is it smell of shit?
2017-09-26T00:52:50 < kakimir> or something else?
2017-09-26T00:54:05 < kakimir> when I have gone traveling big suprise has been that cities smell of sewer
2017-09-26T00:54:25 < kakimir> maybe it's the temperature
2017-09-26T00:54:29 < BrainDamage> never visit a port town
2017-09-26T00:55:21 < BrainDamage> seaweed and sea critters often rot on the shores, and the sewers often malfunction from the tides backing sediments in the channels
2017-09-26T00:55:51 < kakimir> cities here do sewer venting in such way there is no smell on the street level
2017-09-26T00:56:48 < BrainDamage> where i live there's no sewer vents, we buried a few rivers and dump the shit in there, then they flow trough a depuration plant, then dump into a large lake
2017-09-26T00:56:57 < BrainDamage> 0 smell ever, except where the plant is
2017-09-26T00:57:05 < BrainDamage> but that's inevitable
2017-09-26T00:58:18 < kakimir> bury a river.. how do you do that
2017-09-26T00:59:33 < BrainDamage> the same way you build a bridge, except you do it over the whole length of the riverbed
2017-09-26T00:59:38 < kakimir> do you mean you claim area from river by dumping of soil?
2017-09-26T01:00:03 < BrainDamage> then you put soil or roads on top
2017-09-26T01:00:15 < kakimir> where does the river go then?
2017-09-26T01:00:24 < BrainDamage> in its bed
2017-09-26T01:00:34 < BrainDamage> it becomes like a giant tunnel
2017-09-26T01:01:56 < BrainDamage> the problem of the system is that dredging buried rivers is a nightmare, so it can only be done in specific rivers or for short segments
2017-09-26T01:02:21 < kakimir> it sounds very hard
2017-09-26T01:02:26 < BrainDamage> still, it's somewhat common here
2017-09-26T01:02:49 < BrainDamage> there's a lot of rivers, and not so much space
2017-09-26T01:02:58 < kakimir> water will fuck up your infrastructure very easily
2017-09-26T01:03:07 < BrainDamage> cities were born actually using the rivers for communication and transport
2017-09-26T01:03:33 < BrainDamage> good until 1-2 centuries ago, then it backfired
2017-09-26T01:04:09 < englishman> ha
2017-09-26T01:04:24 < BrainDamage> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.5314/9.1954
2017-09-26T01:04:27 < englishman> over on vancouver island they just dump raw sewage straight into the georgia strait
2017-09-26T01:04:27 < BrainDamage> this is milan
2017-09-26T01:04:46 < BrainDamage> that river endind up nowhere is actually buried
2017-09-26T01:05:07 < BrainDamage> same as this https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/45.4982/9.2118
2017-09-26T01:05:33 < englishman> italians and their aqueducts man
2017-09-26T01:06:01 < kakimir> when we were interrailing we should have not gone to south italy but stayed in north
2017-09-26T01:06:06 < kakimir> but we had mission
2017-09-26T01:06:53 < kakimir> or I or we I don't know
2017-09-26T01:07:15 < BrainDamage> north is a bit crap in terms of sightseeing
2017-09-26T01:07:26 < BrainDamage> you either go north in the alps, or it's a giant industrial city
2017-09-26T01:07:49 < BrainDamage> there's historical places, but you need to like to go to museums, etc
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2017-09-26T01:11:23 < kakimir> is there anything interesting in the most southern tip of italy?
2017-09-26T01:12:19 < kakimir> we stayed a night in some mafia hotel in south
2017-09-26T01:14:05 < kakimir> or was it just a "godfather themepark"
2017-09-26T01:15:01 < BrainDamage> yeah, i don't like it there either
2017-09-26T01:15:31 < BrainDamage> lots of poverty, a fuckload of corruption, altought mostly isn't mafia, and just ... not a lot to see/do
2017-09-26T01:18:45 < kakimir> there was like 2 types of cars
2017-09-26T01:19:04 < kakimir> some really small fiat thing
2017-09-26T01:19:15 < kakimir> many many dents
2017-09-26T01:19:35 < kakimir> 95%
2017-09-26T01:20:38 < BrainDamage> these? http://dreamaticl.com/images/fiat-panda-4x4-old-tuning-2.jpg
2017-09-26T01:21:08 < kakimir> 5% cars like audi R8
2017-09-26T01:21:13 < karlp> oh boy, css and html and text alignment is so much fun
2017-09-26T01:21:33 < kakimir> BrainDamage: surelly not 4x4 but otherwise yes
2017-09-26T01:21:48 < BrainDamage> those are actually kind of awesome
2017-09-26T01:21:57 < karlp> the 4x4 panda has a really good reputation
2017-09-26T01:22:08 < kakimir> those are fun
2017-09-26T01:22:41 < BrainDamage> they costed a dime, performed surprisingly well, and it's kind of fun to drive a car with so little automation
2017-09-26T01:22:56 < BrainDamage> and due to the cost, you don't care if you rekt it
2017-09-26T01:23:13 < kakimir> 4x4 that you can lift up with your arms
2017-09-26T01:23:17 < BrainDamage> it's steel shell too, so it's hard to dent as well, altought deadly for you :P
2017-09-26T01:24:06 < kakimir> https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8017/7618298886_c8466cef2b_b.jpg
2017-09-26T01:24:56 < kakimir> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/db/11/4b/db114bcbc5426a7e5e849e826025e38e.jpg
2017-09-26T01:25:22 < kakimir> must have been grate times
2017-09-26T01:25:25 < BrainDamage> early 90s era golfs are kinda popular here as well
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2017-09-26T02:07:02 < englishman> <3 golf country
2017-09-26T02:07:11 < englishman> thats a special one BrainDamage
2017-09-26T02:07:14 < englishman> lifted and 4x4
2017-09-26T02:09:29 < sync> you see them around still, but they are rare
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2017-09-26T02:54:35 < Laurenceb_> drive by trollin
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2017-09-26T03:38:54 < stvn> Fluke T6-1000 Electrical Tester with FieldSense
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2017-09-26T04:21:19 < stvn> stick it
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2017-09-26T06:09:57 < kakimir> sync: no green smoke, also fumes didn't have any special smell
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2017-09-26T06:19:49 < stvn> STICK THIS IN MATE
2017-09-26T06:22:00 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/S1Atw3b.jpg
2017-09-26T06:22:47 < stvn> guess that unit is going on the back-burner for the minute
2017-09-26T06:24:20  * stvn blames Steffan
2017-09-26T06:24:48 < kakimir> can really old electronics give you instant cancer?
2017-09-26T06:26:33 < ohsix> sup
2017-09-26T06:27:45 < stvn> kakimir: this is maybe 10 years old
2017-09-26T06:28:49 < stvn> most likely good too, until it fucking exploded
2017-09-26T06:30:52 < tpw_rules> why is half of it missing
2017-09-26T06:34:59 < stvn> options not installed
2017-09-26T06:35:08 < stvn> the board has up to 3 channels
2017-09-26T06:35:11 < stvn> 1 is populated
2017-09-26T06:35:35 < tpw_rules> what is it
2017-09-26T06:35:39 < tpw_rules> or was it
2017-09-26T06:36:18 < stvn> ole rcf 4pro8001 subwuffa
2017-09-26T06:37:41 < stvn> product is reliable enough
2017-09-26T06:49:24 < aandrew> stvn: hah
2017-09-26T06:55:32 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/DhNu20Kr.jpg
2017-09-26T06:56:46 < aandrew> that board took some damage, what'd you do to it?
2017-09-26T06:57:02 < stvn> accepted it as a repair job
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2017-09-26T07:05:53 < stvn> thats where things usually go wrong in my life
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2017-09-26T07:08:34 < Cracki_> yikes
2017-09-26T07:08:45 < Cracki_> at least they didn't try to fix it themselves
2017-09-26T07:09:00 < Cracki_> ultrasonic bath with the right chemicals perhaps
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2017-09-26T07:13:18 < stvn> or do what they do
2017-09-26T07:13:39 < stvn> try to 'dry it out' by hitting it with a 400deg C heat gun, melting the buttons and chassis
2017-09-26T07:20:55 < stvn> son of a
2017-09-26T07:22:09 < stvn> RRV4356
2017-09-26T07:23:14 < Cracki_> wat
2017-09-26T07:23:27 < stvn> i'll throw the book at it
2017-09-26T07:23:39 < Cracki_> *blinks*
2017-09-26T07:31:04 < stvn> yip
2017-09-26T07:32:19 < stvn> this repair looks like a 4 beer job to me
2017-09-26T07:33:59 < Cracki_> juicy invoice
2017-09-26T07:35:15 < englishman> hello stvn
2017-09-26T07:35:26 < stvn> hi sir
2017-09-26T07:35:31 < englishman> plz do not put jism on the expensive audio electronics
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2017-09-26T07:38:27 < stvn> 200 nigger tickets for this shitty board
2017-09-26T07:39:04 < Cracki> how much is that in shekels
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2017-09-26T07:41:42 < stvn> lel
2017-09-26T07:41:57 < stvn> 7 tactile switches replaced
2017-09-26T07:42:01 < stvn> this fucking better work
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2017-09-26T07:43:27 < englishman> what is the nigger ticket to dollarydoo exchange rate
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2017-09-26T07:49:56 < stvn> fuckit
2017-09-26T07:52:30 < stvn> wonder how far away dong is from pioneer hq
2017-09-26T08:10:21 < englishman> hes probably a major distributor
2017-09-26T08:22:00 < stvn> microdicksurgery
2017-09-26T08:22:04 < stvn> piece of fucking crap board
2017-09-26T08:22:06 < stvn> fixed it
2017-09-26T08:30:25 < stvn> englishman
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2017-09-26T09:22:08 < stvn> that was real good
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2017-09-26T09:44:26 < stvn> LiNUX for NiGGERS
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2017-09-26T10:07:17 < stvn> 34r for 1v2 logic supply hmm
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2017-09-26T10:21:39 < zyp> is digikey super slow for anybody else?
2017-09-26T10:21:52 < zyp> the website, I mean
2017-09-26T10:23:49 < dongs> hello dongs
2017-09-26T10:26:32 < dongs> heyt so
2017-09-26T10:26:36 < dongs> i adjusted the TDR timeouts
2017-09-26T10:26:48 < qyx> zyp: looks ok
2017-09-26T10:26:52 < dongs> and with both monitors being dead after 3 days of not being at the office (of course), they d idnt crash the gpu
2017-09-26T10:27:07 < dongs> i could still mstsc , and i just powered htem down and let htem sit for about 30 seconds and powered back up
2017-09-26T10:27:10 < dongs> and no crash
2017-09-26T10:27:27 < zyp> cool
2017-09-26T10:30:28 < invzim> zyp: you're famous
2017-09-26T10:30:38 < dongs> i bet he is
2017-09-26T10:31:06 < invzim> got credit in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FOkJLp_PUw
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2017-09-26T10:31:34 < dongs> another gay fucking "white hat" gay party
2017-09-26T10:31:43 < dongs> trying to hide the real itnention of such gatherings
2017-09-26T10:31:47 < dongs> "to touch as much dic as possible"
2017-09-26T10:32:04 < dongs> oh wait its not a 33c33 video
2017-09-26T10:32:16 < zyp> invzim, where?
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2017-09-26T10:32:50 < invzim> about usb bug fixing in libopencm3, towards the end I think
2017-09-26T10:33:02 < invzim> he was in the soup for sure :)
2017-09-26T10:33:36 < dongs> OpenTechLab
2017-09-26T10:33:36 < dongs> 10 hours ago
2017-09-26T10:33:36 < dongs> Just Linux Mint with tmux running inside gnome-shell, and oh-my-zsh. I never quite felt comfortable in a tiling WM.
2017-09-26T10:33:40 < dongs> fcking gross
2017-09-26T10:33:55 < zyp> ah, guess it's one of the guys I were debugging some control race with
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2017-09-26T11:35:51 < ohsix> sup
2017-09-26T11:43:44 < ohsix> nngh has anyone haxed a bluetooth 4shit stack on top of dumb gfsk radios yet
2017-09-26T11:43:57 < ohsix> want to use it, but don't want to buy a controller to develop it
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2017-09-26T11:44:43 < ohsix> https://github.com/pauloborges/blessed hm, there's probably a beacon hack for simpler shit too
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2017-09-26T11:49:39 < ohsix> https://hackaday.com/2013/09/21/sending-data-over-bluetooth-low-energy-with-a-cheap-nrf24l01-module/
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2017-09-26T12:05:17 < c10ud> do you know a cheap isolated 12V 1A design (115vac)?
2017-09-26T12:05:53 < c10ud> I am looking at mean well modules (around 5€) and evaluating the costs
2017-09-26T12:06:21 < c10ud> i was thinking the cheapest option would be those "pumped" usb wall adapters
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2017-09-26T12:16:42 < dongs> well, spoke too soon
2017-09-26T12:16:57 < dongs> left PC for 30 mins, come back to all monitors not waking up, computer is even more stoned than it ususalyl is
2017-09-26T12:17:08 < dongs> it went through teh motionm of waht looked like writing a mnidump but instead of rebooting just sat there
2017-09-26T12:17:12 < dongs> in half-working state
2017-09-26T12:17:16 < dongs> fucking dell fucking niggers
2017-09-26T12:17:37 < stvn> can't trust anything black
2017-09-26T12:17:46 < dongs> i should log these hours I spent restoring all teh fucking work VMs and shit and reopening all the fucking windows and reordering them after each fucking crash and send htem a bill
2017-09-26T12:17:54 < dongs> maybe they'lkl find it cheaper to engineer a proper fucking monitor that works
2017-09-26T12:19:05 < stvn> hmmmm
2017-09-26T12:28:03 < stvn> but what should I do?
2017-09-26T12:32:19 < ohsix> jpa-: pinch zoom does work on desktop chrome
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2017-09-26T12:37:50 < Steffanx> stvn
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2017-09-26T12:38:37 < stvn> yessir]
2017-09-26T12:38:51 < Steffanx> Welcome
2017-09-26T12:39:01 < stvn> thanks
2017-09-26T12:40:03 < stvn> what does stfnn do
2017-09-26T12:48:05 < karlp> that opentechlab video is jhol zyp
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2017-09-26T12:50:11 < stvn> words like open are triggers
2017-09-26T12:51:00 < karlp> openpioneer
2017-09-26T12:51:06 < karlp> openproaudio
2017-09-26T12:51:14 < karlp> libre1200s
2017-09-26T12:51:14 < stvn> pls
2017-09-26T12:51:17 < stvn> now
2017-09-26T12:51:32 < karlp> freemixer
2017-09-26T12:51:41 < stvn> do you know how annoying it is to source parts for 1200s
2017-09-26T12:52:28 < karlp> it's almost like they were discontinued or something
2017-09-26T12:52:43 < stvn> yes
2017-09-26T12:52:49 < stvn> and everybody still wants parts
2017-09-26T12:54:24 < stvn> i want to make openamplifier
2017-09-26T12:55:55 < stvn> i still cannot find litz wire mate
2017-09-26T13:00:49 < ohsix> is 50 meters for 7$usd too much money for such a thing
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2017-09-26T13:08:16 < Steffanx> c-ing stvn
2017-09-26T13:08:39 < stvn> ?
2017-09-26T13:09:01 < stvn> oh your current task
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2017-09-26T13:29:46 < karlp> englishman: does arrow love you? they love me, just sent me a 10% off and priority shipping voucher.
2017-09-26T13:29:49 < karlp> never even bought from them
2017-09-26T13:31:15 < stvn> englishman, [;s
2017-09-26T13:31:18 < zyp> karlp, ah, right, that was his nick
2017-09-26T13:32:52 < Steffanx> Better not use dhl, will get screwef
2017-09-26T13:32:52 < stvn> yeah mate
2017-09-26T13:32:54 < Steffanx> D
2017-09-26T13:32:58 < Steffanx> With taxes
2017-09-26T13:35:32 < Steffanx> DHL world wide express costs like 90 euro according to their pricelist
2017-09-26T13:35:47 < Steffanx> Ive never ever paid anything close to that
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2017-09-26T13:36:42 < Steffanx> So customs charge you taxes for 90-fucking-euro
2017-09-26T13:37:05 < Steffanx> Hi stvn-i5-750. Intel much?
2017-09-26T13:37:48 < stvn-i5-750> yeah muscles
2017-09-26T13:40:29 < stvn-i5-750> ##stm32 memes
2017-09-26T13:46:20 < Steffanx> Hah.
2017-09-26T13:46:47 < stvn-i5-750> stffn knows all stm32
2017-09-26T13:46:58 < stvn-i5-750> the memes
2017-09-26T13:47:03 < stvn-i5-750> laurenceb invasion
2017-09-26T13:47:07 < stvn-i5-750> then the coming of crt
2017-09-26T13:47:15 < Steffanx> Ive actually never seen that pic before
2017-09-26T13:47:28 < stvn-i5-750> maybe it is new
2017-09-26T13:47:41 < Steffanx> Yet ive never seen it before
2017-09-26T13:49:55 < stvn-i5-750> yes
2017-09-26T13:50:01 < stvn-i5-750> the thing
2017-09-26T13:56:20 < Steffanx> Hello Welcome
2017-09-26T13:56:46 < stvn-i5-750> well
2017-09-26T14:03:44 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGlEZpOVjGo musics times
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2017-09-26T14:47:42 < englishman> karlp: so you are praising spam?
2017-09-26T14:48:33 < karlp> no, just teasing you :)
2017-09-26T14:48:57 < englishman> it is avnet that I hate this week
2017-09-26T14:49:03 < englishman> and samtec
2017-09-26T14:55:47 < Steffanx> ❤️
2017-09-26T14:58:12 < englishman> prefer stefftec anyway
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2017-09-26T15:09:14 < invzim> I rather like the 3d step generator samtec has
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2017-09-26T15:09:59 < invzim> and unlike molex, seems like their product numbers are not based on a random number generator
2017-09-26T15:11:51 < Laurenceb> superbia1: u wur planning to sell those 2 me?
2017-09-26T15:16:59 < Laurenceb> https://bp.langweiledich.net/CDLXVI/LangweileDich.net_Bilderparade_CDLXVI_100.gif
2017-09-26T15:17:16 < Laurenceb> maker tier
2017-09-26T15:32:21 < tomeaton17> Having a weird issue where a certain command will work fine on the I2C bus, and sometimes it will mess it up and cause SDA to get stuck low
2017-09-26T15:32:55 < tomeaton17> Code is https://hastebin.com/odilebifap.cpp and command that is broken starts on line 256. Any ideas?
2017-09-26T15:33:23 < Laurenceb> #include "stm32f1xx_hal_conf.h"
2017-09-26T15:33:25 < Laurenceb> oh god
2017-09-26T15:33:57 < Laurenceb> eww busy wait as well
2017-09-26T15:34:03 < Laurenceb> recursive epin fail
2017-09-26T15:34:38 < Laurenceb> grab this https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32_Launcher/blob/master/i2c_int.c
2017-09-26T15:34:44 < tomeaton17> Whats wrong with busy wait
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2017-09-26T15:35:01 < Laurenceb> nothing unless you are actually trying to get shit done
2017-09-26T15:35:15 < tomeaton17> I mean this code works fine apart from command 7
2017-09-26T15:35:34 < Laurenceb> you think it works...
2017-09-26T15:35:43 < tomeaton17> Well I know it works
2017-09-26T15:35:49 < Laurenceb> f1 i2c has a habit of breaking horribly
2017-09-26T15:36:08 < tomeaton17> Yeah have experienced that
2017-09-26T15:36:28 < Laurenceb> I managed to put together some code that kind of works
2017-09-26T15:36:47 < Laurenceb> havent seen any i2c issues on any of my hardware recently
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2017-09-26T15:38:35 < tomeaton17> Hm ok, its weird that it only happens on that command makes me think is the slave
2017-09-26T15:39:06 < Laurenceb> I'd stick a logic analyser on the bus
2017-09-26T15:40:21 < tomeaton17> Yeah I have, when it doesn't work SDA gets stuck low
2017-09-26T15:45:34 < tomeaton17> https://gyazo.com/8d44647760732aef51ab47ea733c6fb4 looks like there is an extra clock pulse at the end?
2017-09-26T15:45:53 < Laurenceb> thats a bit slow
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2017-09-26T15:49:11 < tomeaton17> Ok, the working command doesn't have that extra pulse
2017-09-26T15:49:17 < Lux> any idea where i could get pre-bent(custom shape) spring steel wires  with like 0.3 mm width ?
2017-09-26T15:49:27 < tomeaton17> This is when it works https://gyazo.com/7a430d6ea7550382566d7e61ede3309f
2017-09-26T15:49:34 < Laurenceb> Lux: someone with a mini cnc bender
2017-09-26T15:49:42 < Lux> yeah figures :)
2017-09-26T15:50:05 < Lux> but how to find someone is the question... apparently my google skills suck in that regard
2017-09-26T15:50:09 < Laurenceb> tomeaton17: that bus looks nasty
2017-09-26T15:50:20 < Laurenceb> too much parasitic capacitance
2017-09-26T15:50:20 < Lux> i just though maybe someone here knows something
2017-09-26T15:50:32 < Laurenceb> Lux: this is the sort of thing where you talk to ppl irl
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2017-09-26T15:50:38 < Laurenceb> or just go to china
2017-09-26T15:51:02 < Laurenceb> tomeaton17: try copypastering my code and see what happens
2017-09-26T15:51:11 < Laurenceb> tbh I would expect it to break
2017-09-26T15:51:21 < Laurenceb> due to really nasty capacitance
2017-09-26T15:51:38 < Laurenceb> but it shouldnt jam up
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2017-09-26T15:52:32 < tomeaton17> I wonder what is causing the capacitance
2017-09-26T15:54:22 < Laurenceb> cable?
2017-09-26T15:54:48 < tomeaton17> Its connecting almost directly to the chip
2017-09-26T15:54:55 < Laurenceb> oh
2017-09-26T15:55:05 < Laurenceb> your probe leads are being weird?
2017-09-26T15:55:09 < tomeaton17> And it looks like in the code its not acking for the first time
2017-09-26T15:55:23 < tomeaton17> Maybe I don't know how to confirm that
2017-09-26T15:59:18 < tomeaton17> Here it is SCL staying low https://gyazo.com/288beacbf4c040b1b83de2c302f705a8
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2017-09-26T16:17:25 < tomeaton17> Think the pullups were too weak
2017-09-26T16:17:33 < tomeaton17> Seems to be working now
2017-09-26T16:17:51 < Laurenceb> ah
2017-09-26T16:18:11 < tomeaton17> is this less nasty https://gyazo.com/9084dd0dfbe8cabfb28d19127478e377
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2017-09-26T16:32:04 < Laurenceb> looks quite a bit nicer
2017-09-26T16:32:48  * Laurenceb was running 400khz i2c down 3m of cable
2017-09-26T16:33:10 < Laurenceb> its possible to run it with lots of capacitance if you have some error handling
2017-09-26T16:33:24 < Laurenceb> I get a few lockups per hour but they are all handled ok
2017-09-26T16:33:59 < Laurenceb> have had about 1k devices running 24/7 since 2013 with no issues
2017-09-26T16:34:34 < Steffanx> Luck?
2017-09-26T16:34:51 < tomeaton17> Alright, doesn't seem to be any at the moment. I will need to run down quite a long cable and with alot of noise, will be on a quadcopter which is 2m by 2m
2017-09-26T16:35:21 < Laurenceb> erm not luck as there have been over 10^7 failures with my system
2017-09-26T16:35:24 < Steffanx> Dont use i2c then?
2017-09-26T16:35:31 < Laurenceb> thats the other option
2017-09-26T16:35:57 < aandrew> Laurenceb: my only issue with i2c and reliability is that some devices lock the bus up and need to be power cycled. some you can "work loose" by sending a bunch of clocks but others just hang the bus
2017-09-26T16:36:01 < Laurenceb> but its possible to fix in a few milliseconds and interpolate the missing data
2017-09-26T16:36:33 < Laurenceb> aandrew: yeah luckily I havent had any issues with that, seems my sensors are all ok
2017-09-26T16:36:58 < Laurenceb> I have seen a few power cycles due to hardware damage, possibly causing lockup that couldn't be fixed
2017-09-26T16:37:18 < Laurenceb> but as the hardware was in Germany I couldn't take a close look :P
2017-09-26T16:38:01 < Laurenceb> I added a state machine "fixing" routine
2017-09-26T16:38:11 < Laurenceb>  1) just reset the i2c
2017-09-26T16:38:27 < Laurenceb>  2) try sending some clocks as well to reset the device
2017-09-26T16:38:41 < Laurenceb>  3) also try reconfiguring the device
2017-09-26T16:38:53 < tomeaton17> Yeah, I should probably implement that at some point, but with extended testing (1hr) there wasn't any errors
2017-09-26T16:38:54 < Laurenceb> that seems to be good enough in practice
2017-09-26T16:39:03 < Laurenceb> heh 1hr testing
2017-09-26T16:39:32 < tomeaton17> Well the device shouldn't have to be running for more than ~30mins because the drone batteries get depleted quickly
2017-09-26T16:39:33  * Laurenceb is building shit to sit in vehicles for ~1 decade
2017-09-26T16:39:39 < Laurenceb> ah
2017-09-26T16:39:58 < tomeaton17> I haven't tested it on the drone though, so hopefully noise wont be a problem
2017-09-26T16:41:05 < Laurenceb> I use belden "quad star" microphone cable
2017-09-26T16:42:30 < Laurenceb> to connect the various sensor boards around the vehicle
2017-09-26T16:44:02 < tomeaton17> Interesting
2017-09-26T16:44:14 < karlp> Laurenceb: since 2013 with no issues? _lies_
2017-09-26T16:44:27 < karlp> (or has it reallllly been that long already since you "finished" your i2c shit?)
2017-09-26T16:44:28 < Laurenceb> no i2c issues
2017-09-26T16:44:44 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-09-26T16:45:04 < Laurenceb> karlp: since then I have been fappin continuously
2017-09-26T16:45:12 < karlp> ah, you mean "no issues" in "It errors all the time, but I recover"
2017-09-26T16:46:34 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-09-26T16:46:55 < Laurenceb> there have been about 2e7 fuckups but it fixed itself in a few ms each time
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2017-09-26T16:48:21 < Laurenceb> and about 500TB of raw data
2017-09-26T16:48:48 < englishman> thats a lot of horse telemetry
2017-09-26T16:48:55 < Laurenceb> 99.9% of which is junk of course
2017-09-26T16:49:06 < Laurenceb> but "muh raw data"
2017-09-26T16:49:19 < englishman> ups doesnt even put their phone number on delivery notices anymore
2017-09-26T16:49:20 < Laurenceb> managers want it all archived
2017-09-26T16:49:22 < englishman> they dont want to hear your shit
2017-09-26T16:53:52 < Laurenceb> wut the...
2017-09-26T16:54:00 < Laurenceb> gerbv merge does not support mirroring
2017-09-26T16:54:04 < Laurenceb> so much fail
2017-09-26T16:54:14 < englishman> opensores gtk filth
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2017-09-26T16:54:29 < karlp> so much fail? make your gerbs how you want to merge them lunatic
2017-09-26T16:54:31 < aandrew> Laurenceb: what is your "reset the i2c" procedure
2017-09-26T16:54:51 < aandrew> are all your remote devices on a single remote board?
2017-09-26T16:55:29 < aandrew> I was just thinking of using a watchdog IC on the remote board that is tickled with a GPIO hanging off one of the remote peripherals or at worst, an i2c port extender on teh rmote board
2017-09-26T16:55:29 < Laurenceb> aandrew: APB reset thing
2017-09-26T16:55:34 < aandrew> ah, fpga
2017-09-26T16:55:55 < Laurenceb> there are at least 3 remote boards with sensors on
2017-09-26T16:56:13 < aandrew> no wait, not fpga
2017-09-26T16:56:34 < aandrew> you're doing an APB reset of the I2C peripheral or the APB arbiter?
2017-09-26T16:56:47 < Laurenceb> of the peripheral i think..
2017-09-26T16:56:50 < Laurenceb> its been a while
2017-09-26T16:56:53 < karlp> (I guess he means using the appbx_reset register in rcc)
2017-09-26T16:56:59 < Laurenceb> thats the one
2017-09-26T16:57:13 < aandrew> aha
2017-09-26T16:57:17 < qyx> for me, reconfiguring pins as gpio, making some clock cycles and reconfiguring back + resetting i2c periph worked fine
2017-09-26T16:57:19 < aandrew> ok, so you're resetting the peripheral
2017-09-26T16:57:30 < aandrew> you're fortunate that you haven't had the remote devices locking the bus
2017-09-26T16:57:50 < aandrew> qyx: yes, that's what I did on psoc because we had a finicky i2c peripheral
2017-09-26T16:57:53 < Laurenceb> yeah, resetting the peripheral handles the vast majority of lock ups
2017-09-26T16:58:13 < Laurenceb> and its faster than a whole reconfig operation
2017-09-26T16:58:43 < aandrew> to continue my remote rebooter... remote WD could trigger any remote peripheral RESET# lines or at worse, a one-shot that controlls a fet that kills power and reapplies
2017-09-26T16:58:54 < aandrew> at worst
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2017-09-26T17:37:47 < Laurenceb> https://www.google.com/patents/US4395600
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2017-09-26T17:48:32 < ReadErr> https://www.amazon.com/Arduino-Action-Martin-Evans/dp/1617290246/ Story about a homeless man who travels from city to city, fixing problems that dont exist, with Arduinos
2017-09-26T17:51:27 < Laurenceb> wew
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2017-09-26T18:08:50 < tomeaton17> Would it be worth it adding CRC checking to my workflow? I have an stm32 that I am interfacing with via uart. The stm32 is interfacing with chip via i2c. The chip sends crc bytes with data. I am plotting all of this data on many graphs, so if the crc byte is wrong what should I do? It would mess up the graph drawing
2017-09-26T18:11:02 < tomeaton17> Tbh I think its easier to just disregard the CRC
2017-09-26T18:11:08 < Laurenceb> http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/borneo-irish-tourist-savagely-raped-by-400-pound-orangutan/
2017-09-26T18:12:07 < tomeaton17> Quality fake news
2017-09-26T18:13:35 < karlp> tomeaton17: um, check crc and discard?
2017-09-26T18:13:38 < karlp> what else would you do?
2017-09-26T18:14:14 < tomeaton17> karlp: That would be a pain because I would then have to insert some dummy data into the array otherwise matplotlib would bitch at me
2017-09-26T18:14:26 < tomeaton17> The x and y arrays have to be the same size
2017-09-26T18:15:02 < tomeaton17> But yeah probably taking an average of previous results and adding it on incase of crc fail is probably the way to do it
2017-09-26T18:15:04 < tomeaton17> but thats effor
2017-09-26T18:15:06 < tomeaton17> t
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2017-09-26T18:16:46 < BrainDamage> if the crc is wrong, request retransmission
2017-09-26T18:18:02 < BrainDamage> if you have more than n crc failures in y time, your channel is fucked
2017-09-26T18:18:15 < BrainDamage> and you'll be plotting garbage anyway
2017-09-26T18:18:33 < tomeaton17> Yeah, haven't had any crc failures yet but could happen from noise when its installed
2017-09-26T18:18:58 < tomeaton17> But tbh if there is a failure the whole program will have probably crashed
2017-09-26T18:19:47 < upgrdman> sounds like quality software
2017-09-26T18:20:04 < upgrdman> i also write quality software :)
2017-09-26T18:21:26 < tomeaton17> I don't have for quality software :p Its just that the I2C bus on the f1 has a habit of fucking up and spazzing out if you touch it in the wrong place
2017-09-26T18:23:44 < karlp> tomeaton17: lurn to deal with sparse data properly.
2017-09-26T18:25:05 < tomeaton17> I dont think the data is sparse
2017-09-26T18:30:12 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petter_Karlsson
2017-09-26T18:30:41 < Laurenceb> karlp?
2017-09-26T18:31:02 < Laurenceb> Holocoaster. Self-styled as Murder rock/Killer metal, launched a video clip for the song "Another day - Another victim"
2017-09-26T18:31:26 < tomeaton17> Lol the work slack channel is tense someone got called out for stealing peoples biscuits
2017-09-26T18:31:28 < karlp> nah, petter is not an icelandic name.
2017-09-26T18:31:50 < zyp> that's a swedish name
2017-09-26T18:32:01 < karlp> karlsson on the roof and all that.
2017-09-26T18:32:23 < zyp> -son in general is swedish
2017-09-26T18:32:39 < Laurenceb> ur wifes son is
2017-09-26T18:32:41 < karlp> but he correctrly recognised that -sson is generally icelandic
2017-09-26T18:32:53 < zyp> swedish too
2017-09-26T18:32:54 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-09-26T18:33:59 < karlp> guess I just dont' see enogh swedish names,
2017-09-26T18:34:06 < karlp> they're normally obviously non-icelandic for other reasons
2017-09-26T18:34:11 < karlp> (like "petter")
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2017-09-26T18:34:50 < karlp> they're always like lund/quist/strom whatever from my point of view :)
2017-09-26T18:35:08 < karlp> and don't forget berg/dahl
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2017-09-26T18:51:37 < upgrdman> what do you call the space to the left and right of something? lateral space? sideways space?
2017-09-26T18:51:44 < upgrdman> horizontal space?
2017-09-26T18:52:33 < karlp> margin, gutter, padding,
2017-09-26T18:52:44 < upgrdman> ya but those could also refer to above/below
2017-09-26T18:52:56 < zyp> what is something?
2017-09-26T18:53:01 < karlp> are you tryuing to write technical documentaion ?
2017-09-26T18:53:07 < upgrdman> zyp, a tooltip
2017-09-26T18:53:22 < upgrdman> trying to write descriptive consise code comments :)
2017-09-26T18:53:24 < zyp> horizontal padding?
2017-09-26T18:53:36 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-26T18:53:51 < tomeaton17> padding in the east and west directions
2017-09-26T18:54:46 < upgrdman> you get the award for least concise ;)
2017-09-26T18:55:35 < karlp> I'd question what you've designed that needs this sort of writing.
2017-09-26T18:55:45 < Steffanx> Left and right padding is commoner?
2017-09-26T18:55:47 < karlp> if you can't describe it, perhaps it needs to step back up a layer and fix that.
2017-09-26T18:56:18 < tomeaton17> Eh I don't document my code for reading in the source code I document it to be read in a doxygen webpage
2017-09-26T18:56:25 < upgrdman> karlp, i can describe it. just wasnt sure what sounded better... lateral or sideways or horizontal or someshit else. horizontal won.
2017-09-26T18:56:25 < Laurenceb> inb4 isis tank video
2017-09-26T18:56:42 < Steffanx> But horizontal is weird
2017-09-26T18:56:48 < upgrdman> well fuck you too
2017-09-26T18:56:59 < zyp> haha
2017-09-26T18:58:08 < Steffanx> It doesnt say where the padding is, just somewhere horizontal
2017-09-26T18:58:26 < Steffanx> Could be 1x left and 2000000e9px right
2017-09-26T18:58:36 < Steffanx> px*
2017-09-26T18:58:48 < Steffanx> Unless you say it centered
2017-09-26T18:58:48 < tomeaton17> Yes I think left and right is the best
2017-09-26T19:06:59 < Laurenceb> based radical centrist
2017-09-26T19:08:19 < upgrdman> ##java is asleep so i'll try in here too: does java have any tools to look for low-level inefficiencies like cache misses?
2017-09-26T19:09:05 < upgrdman> ya i fear that
2017-09-26T19:09:14 < upgrdman> "its on a vm. we're smart. don't worry about it bro."
2017-09-26T19:09:35 < upgrdman> i guess i could time the shit and start to clean it up and see if anything improves.
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2017-09-26T19:15:45 < Steffanx> Since when you are an apple guy superbia1 ?
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2017-09-26T19:17:54 < aandrew> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/smalt-the-world-s-first-interactive-centerpiece-health
2017-09-26T19:17:55 < aandrew> hahahahaha
2017-09-26T19:18:27 < karlp> upgrdman: for java, I normally start with the jmx stuff, virtualvm and friends and only look beyond that if there's anything reall problematic
2017-09-26T19:18:46 < Steffanx> BrainDamage's project spotted by aandrew
2017-09-26T19:21:28 < karlp> aandrew: that's pretty out there
2017-09-26T19:23:17 < Steffanx> Aha.
2017-09-26T19:23:40 < aandrew> I will wait for the smepper add-on
2017-09-26T19:27:17 < BrainDamage> loool alexa enabled
2017-09-26T19:27:32 < BrainDamage> i wonder if it stops erogating if it goes offline
2017-09-26T19:27:44 < BrainDamage> also, holy shit, tha's huge
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2017-09-26T19:31:17 < karlp> erogating?
2017-09-26T19:37:51 < Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-41391992/man-jailed-for-hitting-woking-teacher-with-car
2017-09-26T19:38:04 < Laurenceb> lol @ stereotypical teacher clothing
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2017-09-26T19:40:18 < Laurenceb> uk teachers always dress like its 1860
2017-09-26T19:42:59 < sync> > golf 4
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2017-09-26T20:24:39 < TheSeven> ohsix: finally got around to fixing this thing: https://paste.ee/p/zQe9l
2017-09-26T20:27:42 < zyp> hey, nice
2017-09-26T20:27:56 < zyp> dongs, https://www.eurodk.com/en/products/16-ports/cloud-router-switch-317-1g-16srm <- this shit is like $100 cheaper than MSRP
2017-09-26T20:28:18 < zyp> $305 for a fanless 16 port 10gbe switch is damn decent
2017-09-26T20:29:13 < Steffanx> would almost buy, except that i dont really have a need for it. The pc<->server connection works well enough
2017-09-26T20:30:14 < karlp> how much are 10gig sfps?
2017-09-26T20:30:27 < zyp> fs.com has some pretty cheap ones, $9 IIRC
2017-09-26T20:30:45 < karlp> hrm, I've got a rate in events/sec.
2017-09-26T20:31:01 < karlp> what's the simplest algorithm to show the "sane" number, ie, converted into events/hour/day/minute
2017-09-26T20:31:09 < karlp> I keep getting either the /day or the /second rate.
2017-09-26T20:31:14 < zyp> hmm
2017-09-26T20:31:18 < karlp> can't figure out the ordering to get the checks nice.
2017-09-26T20:31:19 < zyp> $16, not $9
2017-09-26T20:31:20 < zyp> http://www.fs.com/products/58773.html
2017-09-26T20:31:30 < zyp> still ~nothing
2017-09-26T20:31:44 < Steffanx> i ebayed my (probably fake intel ones) for $2-25
2017-09-26T20:32:05 < zyp> I don't remember what I paid for the ones I've got
2017-09-26T20:32:06 < karlp> well, adds up quick, that's nearly double the price of the switch
2017-09-26T20:32:09 < karlp> before laying fibre
2017-09-26T20:32:52 < zyp> assuming you need all 16 ports
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2017-09-26T20:34:03 < Steffanx> if you have to buy it all then your NICs will be the big munny part.
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2017-09-26T20:35:47 < karlp> meh, want this, but in a tiny little bit of js, not a jumbo chunk of .net https://github.com/Humanizr/Humanizer#humanize-timespan
2017-09-26T20:37:12 < Steffanx> Really? You want that? That triggers my autism so badly
2017-09-26T20:37:21 < Steffanx> 45 seconds = 1 minute? 16 days = 2 weeks? :D
2017-09-26T20:39:14 < karlp> well, not directly.
2017-09-26T20:39:24 < karlp> I've actualyl got 0.00046 events / second
2017-09-26T20:39:26 < karlp> sort of thing
2017-09-26T20:39:42 < karlp> and I want to get x / min or x/hour instead of verybig/verysmall numbers per second.
2017-09-26T20:40:43 < karlp> figured it out enough https://imgur.com/a/rzRhu
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2017-09-26T21:12:25 < Steffanx> btw superbia1: https://imgur.com/gallery/qhsWD  you forgot about the no 4/8chan policy)
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2017-09-26T21:51:09 < kakimir> hello wizards
2017-09-26T21:54:15 < qyx> downoading gcc-arm-embedded from armkeil.blob.core.windows.net
2017-09-26T21:54:22 < upgrdman> is a "gradient descent" algorithm the algorithm version of a proportional control loop?
2017-09-26T21:54:28 < qyx> such irony
2017-09-26T22:08:32 < kakimir> hoe de fuk I find DC plug for my asus zenbook 4mm outer and something I suppose 1.15mm inner
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2017-09-26T22:08:56 < kakimir> 1mm drill is loose and 1.3mm wont fit in
2017-09-26T22:09:04 < kakimir> at least without force
2017-09-26T22:09:33 < zyp> karlp, to look at it another way, you know the switch is cheap when its price is lower than the SFPs for it
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2017-09-26T22:10:20 < englishman> kakimir: my toshiba was this http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1x-4-0mm-x-1-7mm-Right-Angle-DC-Power-Cable-Male-Plug-Connector-Adapter-Plastic-/301039577343
2017-09-26T22:10:50 < englishman> dono if they make it with a smaller pin, might want to mic your drillbit
2017-09-26T22:11:04 < englishman> there will be a spring tab in there too
2017-09-26T22:11:18 < kakimir> I think 4mm / 1.3mm would work
2017-09-26T22:11:26 < kakimir> but 1.7mm no
2017-09-26T22:11:54 < englishman> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DC-4-0mm-x-1-35mm-Male-Right-Angle-Connector-Cable-Power-Supply-ASUS-Ultrabooks-/172388068656
2017-09-26T22:11:59 < englishman> wham
2017-09-26T22:12:54 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/4-0mm-x-1-35mm-Male-Plug-to-5-5mm-x-2-1mm-female-socket-DC-Power-Adapter-cable-/182736074893?hash=item2a8beb388d:g:rTIAAOSwKOJYG0V-
2017-09-26T22:13:01 < kakimir> I think this would be even better
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2017-09-26T22:18:19 < kakimir> I wonder if old laptop psus had 2.1mm pin usually
2017-09-26T22:24:20 < kakimir> I have a pile of those thinkpad slash dell type of round connector PSUs
2017-09-26T22:24:55 < kakimir> what happend 2010?
2017-09-26T22:30:25 < jadew> had a great idea for a reality show
2017-09-26T22:31:29 < jadew> random village with a severe water shortage gets as much coffee as they can drink
2017-09-26T22:32:12 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ9HHAZAw5k trance musics times
2017-09-26T22:32:25 < jadew> preferably done somewhere where the villagers never tasted coffee before, so they're not used to its effects
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2017-09-26T22:32:49 < jadew> first day: nobody can sleep :D
2017-09-26T22:33:11 < kakimir> or know what television broadcast cameras are about
2017-09-26T22:33:23 < kakimir> or reality tv
2017-09-26T22:33:27 < jadew> they'd get used to it
2017-09-26T22:33:52 < kakimir> tv crew comes around and suddenly water supply is cut
2017-09-26T22:33:55 < jadew> then the show could focus on how they stay awake at night
2017-09-26T22:34:04 < jadew> with nothing to do (at least at first)
2017-09-26T22:34:14 < jadew> kakimir, lol
2017-09-26T22:34:21 < kakimir> tv crew gives them a cubic meter of coffee to drink
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2017-09-26T22:40:51 < kakimir> there is so much ethical questions jadew
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2017-09-26T22:47:09 < qyx> PaulFertser: is there a way to make openocd print a progressbar like eg. avrdude?
2017-09-26T22:47:19 < qyx> trying to find anything useful on the net
2017-09-26T22:47:33 < PaulFertser> qyx: with external patch only, not sure if it's applicable to the current head, but there's one.
2017-09-26T22:47:48 < qyx> is it the one with strace?
2017-09-26T22:48:25 < PaulFertser> qyx: http://openocd.zylin.com/2164 this is what I remember.
2017-09-26T22:48:36 < PaulFertser> But it's not about flashing stm32, now I see.
2017-09-26T22:48:40 < PaulFertser> Only load_image to ram.
2017-09-26T22:49:27 < qyx> mhm
2017-09-26T22:49:36 < qyx> ok, nevermind, no progressbar then
2017-09-26T22:50:21 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f8LjrVgR3k new Eric Prydz
2017-09-26T23:03:39 < englishman> samtec sure likes to play fast and loose with their ship dates
2017-09-26T23:05:15 < Steffanx> that song sounds familiar, but im not sure why kakimir.
2017-09-26T23:05:52 < englishman> prydz has a certain type of sound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQSYo_pC-QA
2017-09-26T23:06:26 < Steffanx> no that's not "it".
2017-09-26T23:07:15 < kakimir> prydz has new sound after that I think englishman
2017-09-26T23:07:47 < englishman> yes well that was 15 years ago
2017-09-26T23:07:49 < kakimir> ethereal
2017-09-26T23:08:04 < kakimir> also I fapped to the M/V
2017-09-26T23:11:25 < kakimir> I don't seriosly know why
2017-09-26T23:11:28 < Steffanx> too much boom boom music for me.
2017-09-26T23:16:44 < Steffanx> Did you watch Baywatch in the cinema yet kakimir?
2017-09-26T23:17:16 < kakimir> new one?
2017-09-26T23:17:32 < Steffanx> 2017 one, yes
2017-09-26T23:17:32 < kakimir> for now there is only one title I look forward to
2017-09-26T23:17:42 < kakimir> that is bladerunner
2017-09-26T23:21:53 < Steffanx> By a look at the cast im not convinced its going to be a great movie
2017-09-26T23:22:22 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-26T23:23:10 < kakimir> and also movies in 2017
2017-09-26T23:23:55 < kakimir> it's not about art.. it's about money
2017-09-26T23:24:29 < kakimir> in both short and long run
2017-09-26T23:25:09 < kakimir> it dictates totally the storyline and all the tricks they leave out for the next one
2017-09-26T23:32:55 < Steffanx> Nah, artsy movies tend to be romance/drama/whatever.. i dislike that.
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2017-09-26T23:48:57 < englishman> did you see the new king arthur movie
2017-09-26T23:49:00 < englishman> by guy ritchie
2017-09-26T23:49:14 < englishman> where king arthur karate chop kicks the sword straight outta the stone
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2017-09-26T23:50:09 < kakimir> superbia1: sure but they made a good movie and hoped it would sell
2017-09-26T23:53:39 < kakimir> nowdays what could be one good movie is split into 3 watered down movies
2017-09-26T23:54:49 < kakimir> who even does want to see a movie that is a total bomb?
2017-09-26T23:55:40 < kakimir> back to the future I
2017-09-26T23:58:30 < kakimir> how to get yellow bromium plastic back to white https://youtu.be/qZYbchvSUDY?t=16m15s
2017-09-26T23:59:20 < kakimir> some salon product solution and UV light
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2017-09-27T00:00:06 < Laurenceb_> https://i.redditmedia.com/6ezcERzgvkeFAk8SeyCpu5-jLd7m7iN7lRK_jSLLHuo.jpg?w=693&s=53fdba6305bed8c2fe6d30ed5c82a51a
2017-09-27T00:02:19 < kakimir> apparently hydrogen peroxide + heat works okay too for whitening plastic too
2017-09-27T00:05:33 < jsoft> Is there any thing I should be doing to use doubles on an F0 ?
2017-09-27T00:05:38 < jsoft> using gcc
2017-09-27T00:21:43 < ohsix> TheSeven: sweet
2017-09-27T00:22:26 < ohsix> TheSeven: what's your paypal address? :p
2017-09-27T00:25:34 < ohsix> Turbidity is most commonly quantified by the Nephelometric Turbidity Unit (NTU), or the
2017-09-27T00:25:35 < ohsix> equivalent Formazin Nephelometric Unit (FNU).
2017-09-27T00:25:37 < ohsix> hurr
2017-09-27T00:28:03 < Laurenceb_> Turbidium
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2017-09-27T00:40:27 < Thorn> how do I charge nimh using a lab psu
2017-09-27T00:40:50 < Thorn> 1.2V 2100mAh 2 in series
2017-09-27T00:41:22 < upgrdman> cc @ 2.1A, cv at something high. stop when the battery gets warm
2017-09-27T00:41:43 < upgrdman> to properly charge nimh you need to monitor its voltage and stop when it starts to drop
2017-09-27T00:41:54 < upgrdman> but ya... just stop when it gets warm
2017-09-27T00:52:50 < Thorn> ok I set 1.1A, voltage is 2.98V
2017-09-27T00:53:37 < Thorn> 3.05V already
2017-09-27T00:53:45 < Thorn> how much can it rise
2017-09-27T00:57:42 < sync> switch off when they hit 60°C
2017-09-27T01:04:47 < Laurenceb_> well I know where I'll be heading https://icmi18.wordpress.com/speakers/
2017-09-27T01:05:05 < Laurenceb_> meet the king of youtube comments irl
2017-09-27T01:08:33 < Laurenceb_> hmmm
2017-09-27T01:08:47 < Laurenceb_> 1) set up webcams at the venue
2017-09-27T01:09:04 < Laurenceb_> 2) convince #archlinux-women to meet at same time
2017-09-27T01:09:08 < Laurenceb_> 3) ???
2017-09-27T01:09:11 < Laurenceb_> 4)profit
2017-09-27T01:09:58 < Laurenceb_> how come this sort of shit never appears in say civil engineering or fusion energy
2017-09-27T01:10:03 < Laurenceb_> or theoretical physics
2017-09-27T01:10:12 < Laurenceb_> only stuff like lunix
2017-09-27T01:10:20 < Laurenceb_> and vidia games
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2017-09-27T01:47:49 < Thorn> ok voltage dropped slightly and they got hot. looks like done
2017-09-27T01:48:12 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/ broke 1,000 lines of code while working on the upload page
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2017-09-27T02:26:10 < Laurenceb_> woah
2017-09-27T02:26:24 < Laurenceb_> I've been invited to free pedagogic training
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2017-09-27T02:43:12 < karlp> zyp: oh yeah,  switch looks cheap, just thinking about TCO
2017-09-27T02:53:04 < englishman> anyone got a 3d printable pcb rack
2017-09-27T02:53:12 < englishman> liek this but not full of errors that make it unprintable https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2546225
2017-09-27T02:55:42 < upgrdman> englishman, could you make one out of... milled fr4 pcb stock
2017-09-27T02:56:08 < upgrdman> like a base plate, and an ass load of "fingers" that interlock into the base plate
2017-09-27T02:57:59 < karlp> heh, if I scroll that page to the bottom, it jitters and jumps like mad
2017-09-27T02:58:11 < upgrdman> me too
2017-09-27T02:58:28 < upgrdman> at first i was like "shit, nvidia drivers have been pretty stable"
2017-09-27T02:59:36  * karlp is on amd build in, radeon hd4200 if lspci isn't lying
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2017-09-27T03:08:49 < englishman> yeah guess i will hvae to make something
2017-09-27T03:11:38 < englishman> Equifax CEO suddenly 'retires'
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2017-09-27T04:43:01 < dongs> < zyp> dongs, https://www.eurodk < nice. are you getting?
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2017-09-27T06:13:08 < dongs> fucking LOL
2017-09-27T06:13:09 < dongs> 2017
2017-09-27T06:13:14 < dongs> powered off lunix VM
2017-09-27T06:13:20 < dongs> boot it back up
2017-09-27T06:13:24 < dongs> fsck crashes on boot
2017-09-27T06:13:27 < dongs> too many errors
2017-09-27T06:13:30 < dongs> filesystem is read only
2017-09-27T06:13:31 < dongs> 2017
2017-09-27T06:13:37 < dongs> lol!!!!!!!!!!
2017-09-27T06:13:45 < dongs> if this shit fails in a fucking VM
2017-09-27T06:13:54 < dongs> i dont even wanna find out wat happens when power goes out on a real hardware
2017-09-27T06:15:00 < Thorn> did you disable journaling or what
2017-09-27T06:16:12 < dongs> no, it disabled it by itself
2017-09-27T06:16:21 < dongs> something about too many errors, disablign journal, fileshittem readonly
2017-09-27T06:16:27 < dongs> i mean, i dont give a fuck its jsut a wrothless vm
2017-09-27T06:16:34 < dongs> my point is, its 2017 and lunix can't recover from a hard power down
2017-09-27T06:16:40 < dongs> of an idle fucking VM
2017-09-27T06:16:44 < dongs> that was just booted and sitting doing nothing
2017-09-27T06:16:54 < Thorn> was there a 'recovering journal' messsage?
2017-09-27T06:16:55 < dongs> install that shit at your grandmothers desktop
2017-09-27T06:16:56 < dongs> yes
2017-09-27T06:16:59 < dongs> after which it failed
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2017-09-27T06:19:46 < dongs> haha
2017-09-27T06:19:49 < dongs> it just hard crashed
2017-09-27T06:19:52 < dongs> connecting a USB card reader
2017-09-27T06:20:08 < dongs> lunix is amazing
2017-09-27T06:21:25 < Thorn> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1Kgd0YnX5KE/UzAKytAIcdI/AAAAAAAADbg/KdXrgzyhfLw/s1600/UNIX+Wallpaper+by+PCbots.png
2017-09-27T06:21:42 < dongs> anyone with this as wallpaper should just be gassed
2017-09-27T06:40:11 < jadew> your bike got stolen?
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2017-09-27T08:12:31 < dongs> i just tried to report a bug to VLC
2017-09-27T08:12:39 < dongs> on their irc channel
2017-09-27T08:12:42 < dongs> and got ignored
2017-09-27T08:12:49 < dongs> i guess tehy would ask me to sign up to their fuckign mailing list
2017-09-27T08:12:52 < dongs> and bla bla
2017-09-27T08:13:05 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
2017-09-27T08:16:23 < dongs> for sure
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2017-09-27T08:33:28 < englishman> so you use VLC
2017-09-27T08:33:47 < dongs> no, it was for dvblast which is some vlc half-abandoned proj
2017-09-27T08:38:03 < englishman> Hackers can participate to the development using git.
2017-09-27T08:38:05 < englishman> hackers only
2017-09-27T08:38:57 < dongs> obviously im not qualified
2017-09-27T08:42:18 < englishman> dong, lildongs has been showing a lot of cash lately, i think hes selling drugs to the kittens down the road https://giant.gfycat.com/JadedLoathsomeCoelacanth.webm
2017-09-27T08:43:13 < jadew> https://mielu007.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bani.png
2017-09-27T08:44:04 < englishman> how did you take this selfie with your hands full
2017-09-27T08:44:24 < jadew> with the selfiedick
2017-09-27T08:45:07 < jadew> http://www.hopa.ro/poze/mare/51_1236250264.jpg
2017-09-27T08:45:22 < dongs>  /are/ lol
2017-09-27T08:45:27 < dongs>  /mare/ lol
2017-09-27T08:52:04 < englishman> hello oz
2017-09-27T08:52:28 < englishman> purchased some more mackies today to pump harder in the assembly room
2017-09-27T08:52:34 < dongs> nice
2017-09-27T08:52:44 < englishman> boring as fuck in there
2017-09-27T08:53:04 < dongs> the 8" or 12" stuff
2017-09-27T08:53:07 < dongs> or wahtever the chocies were
2017-09-27T08:53:25 < dongs> englishman: https://i.imgur.com/JT96Xet.jpg prpo china
2017-09-27T08:53:27 < dongs> pro, too
2017-09-27T08:53:29 < englishman> no the cr4
2017-09-27T08:53:43 < englishman> too much bass could wibble the fine pitch components
2017-09-27T08:53:51 < dongs> haha
2017-09-27T08:54:14 < englishman> a finely made suicide adapter
2017-09-27T08:55:51 < englishman> got those waterproof speakers for the back yard as well
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2017-09-27T09:03:56 < englishman> well I dono about that, but there's cr4 in the innovation room and they are pretty ok
2017-09-27T09:04:39 < dongs> oh
2017-09-27T09:04:44 < dongs> thats same thing ih ave then
2017-09-27T09:04:46 < dongs> under my dellz
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2017-09-27T10:03:16 < superbia2> use mpv for media consumption
2017-09-27T10:03:48 < superbia2> fuck vlc
2017-09-27T10:06:33 < dongs> i use mpc-hc
2017-09-27T10:06:37 < dongs> because i'm on a real OS
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2017-09-27T10:09:40 < dongs> sounds like ROHM
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2017-09-27T10:18:11 < Steffanx> You can do it brah
2017-09-27T10:18:50 < Steffanx> Better get to it then
2017-09-27T10:19:13 < Steffanx> Day aint over yet
2017-09-27T10:21:23 < Steffanx> :P
2017-09-27T10:22:05 < Steffanx> Call in thai leng
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2017-09-27T10:25:32 < Steffanx> Where is stvn?
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2017-09-27T10:31:59 < dongs> mixers use 1.2V?
2017-09-27T10:32:04 < dongs> i thought it was all 5V shitchips
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2017-09-27T10:40:06 < dongs> i5-750 sounds fucking ancient
2017-09-27T10:46:18 < dongs> i7-8700 is same price as 7700
2017-09-27T10:46:29 < dongs> but i really dont need to upgrade
2017-09-27T10:46:38 < dongs> same
2017-09-27T10:48:05 < dongs> but i dont need more than this for irc
2017-09-27T10:48:11 < dongs> pumping doesnt require 12 cores
2017-09-27T10:48:15 < dongs> i'm not like R2PRO
2017-09-27T10:56:20 < Steffanx> Secretly crt uses a mac.
2017-09-27T11:00:34 < dongs> lol macs
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2017-09-27T11:57:25 < tomeaton17> dongs is ding-dong your troll nick on #electronics?
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2017-09-27T12:00:55 < dongs> tomeaton17: no, i cant chat ther cuz channel is +M
2017-09-27T12:00:57 < dongs> or wahtever
2017-09-27T12:01:29 < tomeaton17> Ur not registered??
2017-09-27T12:02:44 < dongs>  Information on dongs (account dongs):
2017-09-27T12:02:45 < dongs>  Registered : May 03 14:39:30 2006 (11y 21w 2d ago)
2017-09-27T12:02:48 < dongs> but because I registered without email
2017-09-27T12:02:53 < dongs> back when freechoad allowed this
2017-09-27T12:02:59 < dongs> they refuse to reset email for this nick
2017-09-27T12:03:34 < tomeaton17> Oh right
2017-09-27T12:04:02 < dongs> of course i find this extremely racist and immature
2017-09-27T12:04:39 < tomeaton17> You should protest
2017-09-27T12:04:49 < dongs> Hi
2017-09-27T12:04:49 < dongs> Yes, various nicks rotate in and out of usage and RESV lists over time, due to
2017-09-27T12:04:49 < dongs> perceived levels of abuse potential.
2017-09-27T12:04:49 < dongs> Dongs is not currently available, since the troll potential was increased
2017-09-27T12:04:49 < dongs> fairly dramatically due to a recent discussion in #freenode around the nick.
2017-09-27T12:05:03 < dongs> fucking kikes
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2017-09-27T12:05:17 < Steffanx> Hah, dongs and his reputation
2017-09-27T12:05:41 < dongs> yea, everyone knows dongs, but apparently thats not enough to prove to feenode "operators" that it is indeed me who is the owner of this nick
2017-09-27T12:06:31 < emeryth> you should start a petition
2017-09-27T12:06:39 < tomeaton17> Yeah I would sign it
2017-09-27T12:06:46 < tomeaton17> Give dongs his identity back
2017-09-27T12:06:59 < dongs> just so i could freely troll in #electronics?
2017-09-27T12:07:02 < dongs> i think they would not agree with it
2017-09-27T12:13:26 < tomeaton17> My coworker is stupid she insists on calling github "gethub"
2017-09-27T12:13:48 < dongs> i propose a different, much easier to remember name
2017-09-27T12:13:50 < dongs> 'shithub"
2017-09-27T12:19:53 < Steffanx> Not even a comment on the "she" thing
2017-09-27T12:27:34 < dongs> god damn
2017-09-27T12:28:16 < ohsix> gethub is cute
2017-09-27T12:28:25 < ohsix> encapsulates how a lot of people use it
2017-09-27T12:28:31 < dongs> is tehre any way to change a fucking package in cube
2017-09-27T12:28:34 < dongs> after project is made
2017-09-27T12:30:08 < dongs> k just edited the shit in IOC
2017-09-27T12:30:11 < dongs> retarded lunix trash
2017-09-27T12:32:01 < tomeaton17> How would you guys do this, I have a 4 stm32 which log battery data, I need to collate this with one stm32, what would be the best way to do this?
2017-09-27T12:33:04 < dongs> remove 4 redundant stm32s
2017-09-27T12:33:33 < ohsix> labtop
2017-09-27T12:33:54 < tomeaton17> I want to keep the i2c lines as short as possible so keeping them close to the battery
2017-09-27T12:34:11 < ohsix> have the 5th one raise a line to poll what you want
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2017-09-27T12:34:43 < ohsix> there are bus multiplexing things where you can have bus members snoop to see when to send
2017-09-27T12:35:16 < ohsix> if they're ordered you just need to tell one of them to start and they can round robin themselves
2017-09-27T12:35:28 < dongs> stm32 for smbus shit?
2017-09-27T12:35:56 < tomeaton17> Yeah that seems like the way to do it
2017-09-27T12:38:03 < tomeaton17> Will probably just use serial to speak to each one
2017-09-27T12:38:28 < dongs> tomeaton17: are you randomly replying to things i cant see?
2017-09-27T12:38:35 < ohsix> fusion 360's web editor thing works p. good; can't do direct modeling but it does do a lot, even on lunix
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2017-09-27T12:38:56 < tomeaton17> Yes the thoughts in my head
2017-09-27T12:39:02 < stvn> lol
2017-09-27T12:39:23 < dongs> i thought i catched a sniff of autism going by
2017-09-27T12:39:45 < tomeaton17> Dw I have been autism free since birth
2017-09-27T12:39:56 < stvn> well
2017-09-27T12:40:03 < tomeaton17> I have some concerns about certain members of this channel however
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2017-09-27T12:40:47 < dongs> i have no doubts
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2017-09-27T12:49:17 < Steffanx> Im ok tomeaton17
2017-09-27T12:49:26 < Steffanx> stvn isnt.
2017-09-27T12:49:29 < Steffanx> Nor is crt
2017-09-27T12:49:57 < stvn> hello welcome
2017-09-27T12:51:51 < Steffanx> Have room
2017-09-27T12:52:53 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-27T12:53:07 < stvn> do you have anything else?
2017-09-27T12:57:58 < Steffanx> No. Im out
2017-09-27T12:59:33 < stvn> no rubber?
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2017-09-27T13:14:08 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMMVg2Aw0l0
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2017-09-27T13:28:55 < stvn> fairchild eaten by onsemi?
2017-09-27T13:29:28 < karlp> years ago?
2017-09-27T13:30:04 < stvn> 2sa1943rtu
2017-09-27T13:30:04 < karlp> well, finalised one year ago
2017-09-27T13:30:12 < stvn> heh
2017-09-27T13:32:21 < upgrdman> lol https://i.redd.it/zrbq02yoz7oz.jpg
2017-09-27T13:33:21 < stvn> yeah just gotta rebuild some amps on the scrap heap lol
2017-09-27T13:34:35 < stvn> where do i get the most hardcore to-264 mica insulators?
2017-09-27T13:37:41 < stvn> crt is the champion of amplifier building olympics
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2017-09-27T13:45:44 < stvn> sniff sniff
2017-09-27T13:48:00 < Steffanx> 🤧
2017-09-27T13:48:58 < stvn> wut is that symbol
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2017-09-27T13:49:12 < tomeaton17> One that I cant see
2017-09-27T13:49:13 < stvn> i'm on a real computer not a mac
2017-09-27T13:49:26 < Steffanx> This is android..
2017-09-27T13:49:32 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-27T13:49:36 < stvn> four nigger thumbs
2017-09-27T13:49:45 < tomeaton17> What is it meant to be
2017-09-27T13:49:48 < stvn> thats apparently what my friend tried to send me today
2017-09-27T13:50:27 < stvn> fnt
2017-09-27T13:50:39 < tomeaton17> Ah sneezing face emoji
2017-09-27T13:50:39 < Steffanx> Nose sniffing emoticon
2017-09-27T13:50:53 < stvn> also apparently he dropped that thing in my business partner's bin
2017-09-27T13:51:04 < stvn> the cnc machine controller
2017-09-27T13:51:21 < tomeaton17> 🖕
2017-09-27T13:51:34 < stvn> i see a square box with 4 zeroes in it
2017-09-27T13:51:47 < tomeaton17> You need to update ur terminal
2017-09-27T13:51:56 < stvn> the finger mate
2017-09-27T13:51:56 < stvn> i see
2017-09-27T13:52:03 < tomeaton17> Its a reversed hand with middle finger extended
2017-09-27T13:52:08 < stvn> i see it now
2017-09-27T13:52:15 < stvn> just had to buy a mac
2017-09-27T13:52:23 < stvn> now everything is ok
2017-09-27T13:52:26 < stvn> thanks for asking
2017-09-27T13:52:29 < tomeaton17> Lol I have this on Konsole...
2017-09-27T13:53:12 < stvn> is that some LFN package?
2017-09-27T13:53:33 < superbia2> probably otaku-4chan-backtoschool-pack
2017-09-27T13:53:44 < tomeaton17> lfn? Its the default console for KDE plasma
2017-09-27T13:53:46 < stvn> wait who the fuck are  you
2017-09-27T13:54:03 < stvn> lfn is linux for niggers, pretty much the most popular free software in existance
2017-09-27T13:54:13 < tomeaton17> Oh right then yes!
2017-09-27T13:54:24 < superbia2> no n-word
2017-09-27T13:54:36 < stvn> oh
2017-09-27T13:54:38 < stvn> wel
2017-09-27T13:54:47 < stvn> probably the wrong corner of irc then
2017-09-27T13:55:01 < tomeaton17> Do you not use weechat
2017-09-27T13:55:14 < stvn> i tried to search for n word matches in the chatlog and it blew up my server
2017-09-27T13:55:43 < tomeaton17> I am going to make a IoT device that does something whenever someone says it on the channel
2017-09-27T13:55:58 < stvn> yeah i have a giant LED display at the front of my factory
2017-09-27T13:56:07 < tomeaton17> And then put it on adafruit
2017-09-27T13:56:08 < stvn> it is a live ##stm32 repeater
2017-09-27T13:56:27 < stvn> so anyone driving past will know what they're missing out on
2017-09-27T13:56:47 < tomeaton17> Damn thats pretty cool
2017-09-27T13:56:54 < stvn> yeah its great
2017-09-27T13:57:02 < stvn> i have lots of customers now
2017-09-27T13:57:17 < tomeaton17> Do not come into this factory its filled with autists
2017-09-27T13:57:41 < tomeaton17> Turn back before its too late!!
2017-09-27T13:57:43 < stvn> NIGGERS ARE BEING GASSED - PAY 5 DOLLARS TO SHOOT ONE IN THE FACE
2017-09-27T13:58:25 < stvn> HEH
2017-09-27T13:58:33 < stvn> anyway
2017-09-27T13:58:36 < stvn> where is englishlad
2017-09-27T13:59:41 < Laurenceb_> sup /pol/
2017-09-27T14:01:17 < stvn> so apparently nth korea are terrarizts coz they fucked up some dumb hipster's shit up and sent him back defective
2017-09-27T14:01:33 < stvn> i call that a win, but hey each to their own
2017-09-27T14:04:24 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/6g81Hba.jpg
2017-09-27T14:04:33 < stvn> can you faceswap that image Laurenceb_
2017-09-27T14:05:18 < Laurenceb_> too lazy
2017-09-27T14:05:49 < Steffanx> Will do stvn.
2017-09-27T14:05:54 < stvn> ty sir
2017-09-27T14:18:34 < dongs> SPI in slave mode, i dont need to actually care bout NSS do i?
2017-09-27T14:18:42 < dongs> im gonna be receiving shit as soon as its getting clocked ya
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2017-09-27T14:20:59 < dongs> wtf
2017-09-27T14:21:06 < dongs> my fucking win7vm running cube keeps bluescreening
2017-09-27T14:21:20 < dongs> ONLY when im running cube
2017-09-27T14:21:26 < superbia2> shit os
2017-09-27T14:23:36 < Laurenceb_> >running cube
2017-09-27T14:25:59 < stvn> i'd rather program in assembler
2017-09-27T14:28:15 < Laurenceb_> >not doing a Leo and programming in raw thumb2 on sheets of paper
2017-09-27T14:29:03 < Laurenceb_> he even has a wooden register map tool
2017-09-27T14:31:23 < stvn> lol
2017-09-27T14:31:34 < dongs> tool is not wrong
2017-09-27T14:32:28 < Laurenceb_> yeah but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmpiJeNffuU
2017-09-27T14:33:04 < Laurenceb_> lol @ the screeching
2017-09-27T14:33:24 < dongs> cool
2017-09-27T14:33:54 < dongs> thats a shit load of requests
2017-09-27T14:33:58 < dongs> for some shitty stm32
2017-09-27T14:34:11 < Laurenceb_> yeah all the ip stuff is hand coded in thumb
2017-09-27T14:34:43 < karlp> I wonder how well it responds to negative clients though
2017-09-27T14:34:58 < karlp> it's all well and good optimizing fast path for well behaving clients.
2017-09-27T14:35:33 < Laurenceb_> well its designed to sit on lan for high frequency trading
2017-09-27T14:37:28 < Laurenceb_> wow okcupid is cancer
2017-09-27T14:37:38 < BrainDamage> cuckpid
2017-09-27T14:37:45 < Laurenceb_> .I loves Johnny Depp films,Fast and Furious series,shit like that!
2017-09-27T14:37:57 < Laurenceb_> >broken space bar spotted
2017-09-27T14:38:15 < Laurenceb_> >how do I grammar
2017-09-27T14:38:23 < Laurenceb_> >fast and furious....
2017-09-27T14:38:50 < stvn> cuckcid
2017-09-27T14:39:30 < Laurenceb_> >scroll through >100 grrrrls
2017-09-27T14:39:34 < Laurenceb_> >they are all cancer
2017-09-27T14:40:18 < stvn> ok
2017-09-27T14:40:27 < stvn> seems legit
2017-09-27T14:40:36 < dongs> fucking hell, that sounds liek aids
2017-09-27T14:40:55 < dongs> every film with johhny depp in it is gross
2017-09-27T14:41:10 < zyp> haha
2017-09-27T14:41:23 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-27T14:41:31 < stvn> a grande chuckle
2017-09-27T14:41:35 < Laurenceb_> accurate
2017-09-27T14:41:45 < stvn> the recone kit
2017-09-27T14:41:57 < dongs> looking forward to doing some advanced DMA'ing, SPI'ing and TIM'ing with CUBE MX
2017-09-27T14:42:03 < stvn> yeah
2017-09-27T14:42:06 < stvn> it'll be grea
2017-09-27T14:42:06 < stvn> t
2017-09-27T14:42:09 < dongs> i bet
2017-09-27T14:42:10 < stvn> i promise
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2017-09-27T14:44:37 < upgrdman> lol https://i.redd.it/9mqlpy83z7oz.png
2017-09-27T14:44:51 < upgrdman> dongs ^ you need this on your site
2017-09-27T14:49:34 < dongs> lewl
2017-09-27T14:51:55 < dongs> empty cube proj: 5.9k built
2017-09-27T14:52:49 < karlp> why do HFT people need a high perf ntp server?
2017-09-27T14:55:20 < BrainDamage> what's HFT?
2017-09-27T14:55:30 < dongs> i guess someshit to do wiht baloon crap
2017-09-27T14:56:21 < BrainDamage> having accurate time standards on base stations means that you can do multilateration and considery reduce transmitter complexity
2017-09-27T14:56:47 < BrainDamage> instead of gps transmitting its own location, you can consider even CW becons
2017-09-27T14:57:25 < zyp> dongs, your compiler doesn't throw out unused code?
2017-09-27T14:57:54 < zyp> or is that 5.9k just for startup code and ISRs?
2017-09-27T14:58:16 < dongs> startup/init/isrs/cubecrap
2017-09-27T14:58:31 < zyp> what other crap?
2017-09-27T14:58:39 < zyp> if it's not referenced, it should get thrown out
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2017-09-27T15:00:19 < dongs>     HAL_RCC_OscConfig                        0x080006f9   Thumb Code   966  stm32f0xx_hal_rcc.o(i.HAL_RCC_OscConfig)
2017-09-27T15:00:23 < dongs> cube has some wonderful shit
2017-09-27T15:00:26 < dongs> 966 = size in bytes
2017-09-27T15:00:30 < zyp> oh
2017-09-27T15:00:31 < zyp> nice
2017-09-27T15:00:42 < dongs>     HAL_RCC_ClockConfig                      0x08000511   Thumb Code   320  stm32f0xx_hal_rcc.o(i.HAL_RCC_ClockConfig)
2017-09-27T15:00:47 < dongs>     HAL_TIM_IC_ConfigChannel                 0x08000e07   Thumb Code   288  stm32f0xx_hal_tim.o(i.HAL_TIM_IC_ConfigChannel)
2017-09-27T15:00:51 < dongs> etc
2017-09-27T15:00:54 < dongs>     HAL_TIM_IRQHandler                       0x08000fb1   Thumb Code   354  stm32f0xx_hal_tim.o(i.HAL_TIM_IRQHandler)
2017-09-27T15:01:45 < dongs> that osc_config is utterly gross code
2017-09-27T15:01:49 < Laurenceb_> karlp: so they can synchronise their trades
2017-09-27T15:01:52 < Laurenceb_> derpo
2017-09-27T15:02:09 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/jZiKgt22.html
2017-09-27T15:03:09 < BrainDamage> oh, high frequency trading
2017-09-27T15:03:57 < dongs> high frequency wanking is what Laurenceb_ is into
2017-09-27T15:06:08 < sync> Laurenceb_: the guy that I know that does HFT just does all this in the fpga cards they shove into the servers
2017-09-27T15:06:21 < dongs> lol.
2017-09-27T15:06:58 < fest> any recommended FTL implementations for using NAND flash on STM32?
2017-09-27T15:07:00 < Laurenceb_> yeah there is low end and very high end hft stuff
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2017-09-27T15:13:36 < dongs> fest, none provided by st
2017-09-27T15:14:01 < dongs> i think you'd kinda need extermal ram for that sorta shit anyway
2017-09-27T15:14:05 < dongs> with huge flash page sizes
2017-09-27T15:14:19 < tomeaton17> If a pin doesnt have debounce support is a guard ring necessary?
2017-09-27T15:21:39 < fest> yeah, have SDRAM already, people are looking at cutting cost and 256Mbit NOR flash is their current target
2017-09-27T15:22:20 < fest> 5 minute erase/write time for data stored in flash isn't too great too
2017-09-27T15:23:23 < fest> NAND looks to be cheaper and better write speeds but I don't really want to implement FTL
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2017-09-27T15:39:14 < karlp> Laurenceb_: yar, but why would they need to keep resyncing to the ntp server so much?
2017-09-27T15:39:23 < karlp> spend all that money, don't even have remotely stable local clocks?
2017-09-27T15:39:45 < karlp> 10k pcs, surely they don't need to be syncing every second?
2017-09-27T15:40:59 < Laurenceb_> karlp: yeah but muh specs
2017-09-27T15:41:11 < Laurenceb_> for comparison HP NTP stuff costs kilo bux
2017-09-27T15:41:39 < Laurenceb_> that stm thing is ukp300 and outclasses HP stuff
2017-09-27T15:41:44 < karlp> yeah, but it's a "buy one" device.
2017-09-27T15:41:53  * karlp shrugs
2017-09-27T15:42:33 < Laurenceb_> supposedly it has better time stability too
2017-09-27T15:42:46 < Laurenceb_> but I'd want to see a pdf with some plots first :P
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2017-09-27T16:18:23 < jadew> knowing how to code is great
2017-09-27T16:19:04 < jadew> had to pick a doctor from a list of 60 names => made a script to google them all and to give me the number of results for each
2017-09-27T16:19:16 < dongs> ...
2017-09-27T16:19:24 < dongs> autistic fuck
2017-09-27T16:20:15 < jadew> it saves time, cuz I don't have to look into the ones with a small number of results
2017-09-27T16:20:25 < englishman> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/26/deloitte_leak_github_and_google/
2017-09-27T16:22:18 < englishman> so you'll go to the one that got convicted of kid diddling because he had 30 million results?
2017-09-27T16:23:16 < jadew> no, I'm checking each of them individually, but the one with the most legit results must be the best choice
2017-09-27T16:23:50 < jadew> forum chatter about good experiences, articles published, research
2017-09-27T16:23:57 < kakimir> is AP isolation good thing to use in router?
2017-09-27T16:24:56 < englishman> it is if you dont want any wireless clients accessing the rest of the network
2017-09-27T16:25:12 < kakimir> rest of the wireless network
2017-09-27T16:25:20 < kakimir> unless via the router
2017-09-27T16:25:24 < kakimir> ?
2017-09-27T16:25:29 < kakimir> or at all?
2017-09-27T16:25:42 < kakimir> can clients like talk directly to each other?
2017-09-27T16:27:26 < BrainDamage> no with isolation
2017-09-27T16:27:34 < BrainDamage> yes otherwise
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2017-09-27T16:30:01 < kakimir> but isolation is basically useless if I don't set any firewall to router
2017-09-27T16:30:12 < kakimir> or block anything anyhow
2017-09-27T16:30:50 < kakimir> anyway*
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2017-09-27T16:51:46 < karlp> Laurenceb_: http://longrange.cs.washington.edu/files/loRaBackscatter.pdf
2017-09-27T16:52:17 < Laurenceb_> imagine how much better it would be without lora
2017-09-27T17:15:12 < Laurenceb_> 2.8km wtf
2017-09-27T17:15:16 < Laurenceb_> ok thats pretty insane
2017-09-27T17:15:56 < Laurenceb_> but they basically reimplimented it in software
2017-09-27T17:16:54 < Laurenceb_> TSMC 65 nm LP CMOS process
2017-09-27T17:16:59 < Laurenceb_> wtf this is crazy
2017-09-27T17:17:23 < Laurenceb_> literally cloned lora from scratch
2017-09-27T17:19:30 < dongs> whats the strategy to do DMA when I don't have a fixed buffer size
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2017-09-27T17:19:43 < Laurenceb_> wut
2017-09-27T17:19:45 < dongs> setup for max size and time it out?
2017-09-27T17:19:54 < Laurenceb_> dongs: you mean like uart?
2017-09-27T17:20:01 < dongs> no, its timer input capture
2017-09-27T17:20:06 < Laurenceb_> I've used circular mode for gps uart stuff
2017-09-27T17:20:07 < Laurenceb_> ah ok
2017-09-27T17:20:14 < dongs> hm, circular
2017-09-27T17:20:33 < Laurenceb_> you can treat it like a ring buffer
2017-09-27T17:23:06 < englishman> karlp that is cool as fuck
2017-09-27T17:23:57 < dongs> what is
2017-09-27T17:23:59 < dongs> ntp?
2017-09-27T17:24:24 < Laurenceb_> network time protocol
2017-09-27T17:24:29 < englishman> not that shitty britfag gxti clone no
2017-09-27T17:24:38 < dongs> haha
2017-09-27T17:24:46 < dongs> then wut did he link that was cool
2017-09-27T17:24:54 < englishman> 9:51 AM <karlp> Laurenceb_: http://longrange.cs.washington.edu/files/loRaBackscatter.pdf
2017-09-27T17:24:55 < dongs> longrage?
2017-09-27T17:24:56 < dongs> oh
2017-09-27T17:24:56 < BrainDamage> passive lora rfid
2017-09-27T17:25:02 < Laurenceb_>  "lora"
2017-09-27T17:25:13 < Laurenceb_> they basically reimplimented everything
2017-09-27T17:26:23 < englishman> they probably got ip from semtech
2017-09-27T17:26:45 < Laurenceb_> copypasta-ra
2017-09-27T17:26:59 < englishman> oh
2017-09-27T17:27:05 < dongs> fuccccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkking
2017-09-27T17:27:05 < englishman> The physical layer specification for LoRa however is proprietary and is not publicly available. So, we reverse-engineer the LoRa physical layer using the patents filed by Semtech
2017-09-27T17:27:07 < englishman> maybe not
2017-09-27T17:27:15 < Laurenceb_> top kek
2017-09-27T17:27:18 < Laurenceb_> cloneware
2017-09-27T17:27:23 < dongs> WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WIHT ST'S GAY SITE
2017-09-27T17:27:30 < dongs> DOWNLOADING CUBE F0 AT 4 KILOBYTES/SECOND
2017-09-27T17:27:35 < Laurenceb_> owned
2017-09-27T17:27:37 < dongs> 9 hours left
2017-09-27T17:27:39 < dongs> what the actual fuck
2017-09-27T17:27:41 < sync> that is your yappunet
2017-09-27T17:27:42 < Laurenceb_> wait until it fires up
2017-09-27T17:27:47 < englishman> dongs: https://www.worksonmymachine.pro/
2017-09-27T17:27:48 < Laurenceb_> and has to download all the libraries
2017-09-27T17:27:54 < sync> preventing you from importing foreign bytes
2017-09-27T17:28:08 < Laurenceb_> byte genocide
2017-09-27T17:28:56 < BrainDamage> i can drive by one of largest st plants and hurl a brick at their office windows, do you have any particularry hateful message to send?
2017-09-27T17:29:05 < Laurenceb_> kek
2017-09-27T17:29:10 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-27T17:29:17 < dongs> stop requiring login for retarded garbage
2017-09-27T17:29:45 < dongs> and fix your fucking website
2017-09-27T17:29:50 < dongs> nobody serves files from java shitlets in 2017
2017-09-27T17:29:52 < dongs> well, ecxept st
2017-09-27T17:30:23 < Laurenceb_> >people learned java
2017-09-27T17:30:35 < englishman> dongs https://www.worksonmymachine.pro/stm32cube_fw_f0_v180.zip
2017-09-27T17:30:52 < dongs> 1044k/sec, 2 mins left
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2017-09-27T17:31:10 < dongs> 1700k/sec
2017-09-27T17:31:11 < dongs> yeah.
2017-09-27T17:31:15 < dongs> thats what im talking about
2017-09-27T17:31:33 < sync> them killerbytes
2017-09-27T17:33:55 < englishman> lol amadongs video
2017-09-27T17:34:20 < englishman> Your video will play in Standard Definition because your computer hardware, HDMI cables, and display must all meet content protection (HDCP) requirements for HD video.
2017-09-27T17:34:55 < zyp> haha, cables
2017-09-27T17:35:25 < dongs> no amacocks video on ipadz
2017-09-27T17:36:11 < englishman> deleting f0.zip
2017-09-27T17:36:16 < dongs> thanks
2017-09-27T17:36:16 < dongs> its done
2017-09-27T17:39:00 < englishman> 🥐
2017-09-27T17:40:33 < dongs> i mean
2017-09-27T17:40:36 < dongs> thanks, downlaod is done
2017-09-27T17:41:01 < englishman> yes del'd
2017-09-27T17:41:20 < englishman> returning to dicknplacing LIS3MDL and failing because i forgot to reduce paste aperture again
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2017-09-27T17:43:37 < Laurenceb_> uh oh
2017-09-27T17:43:49  * Laurenceb_ will be having this fun soon 
2017-09-27T17:46:14 < jadew> well, found the best doc, the next consultation slot is in january :/
2017-09-27T17:46:24 < dongs> your dick will fall off before that
2017-09-27T17:46:46 < jadew> it's not for me, but yeah, it's way too late
2017-09-27T17:47:07 < jadew> she's supposed to have surgery next week and I want a second opinion
2017-09-27T17:47:22 < jadew> (my grandma)
2017-09-27T17:48:34 < jadew> interestingly enough, he came out amongst the last when ranked by google hits
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2017-09-27T17:51:12 < Laurenceb_> doctors scare me
2017-09-27T17:51:22 < Laurenceb_> they are so self confident and arrogant
2017-09-27T17:51:27 < dongs> wow, im wasting endless amounts of time looking for shit like "how to disable exti interrupts the hal way"
2017-09-27T17:51:30 < dongs> fuck
2017-09-27T17:51:43 < jadew> Laurenceb_, yeah
2017-09-27T17:51:45 < dongs> apparently in cube they merged gpio and exti
2017-09-27T17:51:50 < dongs> so now none of the shit makes any sense
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2017-09-27T17:52:59 < Laurenceb_> I'm going to have to give a presentation to some doctors soon, they won't like what I have to say
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2017-09-27T17:55:59 < jadew> I actually read some bad reviews about some doctros and it's crazy how far their arrogance can go
2017-09-27T17:56:45 < Steffanx> I heard Laurenceb_ is a Doctor.
2017-09-27T17:57:01 < Laurenceb_> Dr of science
2017-09-27T17:57:13 < Laurenceb_> and trollin
2017-09-27T17:57:25 < Steffanx> And unfunniness
2017-09-27T17:57:35 < Steffanx> Hi Laurenceb_
2017-09-27T17:58:08 < jadew> his jokes may be funny, but they're just that edgy we don't get them
2017-09-27T17:59:09 < jadew> they're more like inside jokes
2017-09-27T17:59:17 < jadew> and we're not inside
2017-09-27T17:59:46 < englishman> hmm LIS3MDL with reduced paste aperture means aperture is 0.2mm
2017-09-27T17:59:49 < englishman> T4 paste required
2017-09-27T18:00:05 < Steffanx> Im not sure jadew
2017-09-27T18:00:52 < Laurenceb_> englishman:how is it failing?
2017-09-27T18:00:54 < jadew> well, at the very least they're his own inside jokes
2017-09-27T18:01:18 < englishman> Laurenceb_: making an old project and didnt reorder stencils. aperture didnt have proper reduction
2017-09-27T18:01:33 < Laurenceb_> so its shorting?
2017-09-27T18:01:50 < Laurenceb_> inb4 tom66
2017-09-27T18:02:00 < englishman> yea
2017-09-27T18:02:11 < englishman> at least its better than earlier when i had shit paste and it was voiding
2017-09-27T18:02:33 < Laurenceb_> sounds like this is going to be fun
2017-09-27T18:02:43 < Laurenceb_> but I only need <200 boards
2017-09-27T18:02:48 < englishman> rekt
2017-09-27T18:02:48 < Laurenceb_> could just touch up by hand
2017-09-27T18:02:53 < englishman> you cant
2017-09-27T18:02:55 < englishman> its LGA
2017-09-27T18:03:03 < englishman> hotair off, fix solder, replace
2017-09-27T18:03:10 < Laurenceb_> hot air + fiddle is doable
2017-09-27T18:03:18 < englishman> x200
2017-09-27T18:03:21 < englishman> see you in january
2017-09-27T18:03:31 < Steffanx> Haha
2017-09-27T18:05:39 < dongs> what teh fuck man
2017-09-27T18:05:45 < dongs> fucking HAL garbage
2017-09-27T18:09:33 < dongs> the only way i could find that killed EXTI: HAL_GPIO_Deinit(crap)
2017-09-27T18:09:34 < dongs> did that
2017-09-27T18:09:40 < dongs> exti interrupt handler is called TWICE
2017-09-27T18:09:41 < dongs> ...
2017-09-27T18:10:17 < jadew> check datasheet?
2017-09-27T18:10:22 < dongs> of what motherfucker?
2017-09-27T18:10:23 < jadew> sorry, RM
2017-09-27T18:10:27 < dongs> datasheet doesnt fucking talk about HAL
2017-09-27T18:10:34 < dongs> i know how to turn it off by registers
2017-09-27T18:10:38 < jadew> yeah, so do it via registries
2017-09-27T18:10:40 < dongs> the point is im trying to use this brainded garbage
2017-09-27T18:10:41 < jadew> ah
2017-09-27T18:17:10 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2017-09-27T18:17:30 < Laurenceb_> I have to attend a wurk training course for "PRoject strategy 2020"
2017-09-27T18:17:36 < Laurenceb_> I'm a gunna be educated
2017-09-27T18:18:03 < qyx> is it bad?
2017-09-27T18:18:05 < Laurenceb_> I will add this to my CV
2017-09-27T18:18:07 < jadew> sounds like a useful course
2017-09-27T18:18:42 < Laurenceb_> still better than TED
2017-09-27T18:19:53 < Laurenceb_> I should invite Sam Hyde to some of this shit
2017-09-27T18:20:14 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0
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2017-09-27T18:24:47 < dongs> oh, this was 5K with -O3
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2017-09-27T18:47:31 < dongs> wonderful
2017-09-27T18:47:43 < dongs> DMA is running, CNDTR is changing, memory has no capture values in it
2017-09-27T18:48:00 < dongs> HAL is amaze
2017-09-27T18:48:48 < zyp> awesome
2017-09-27T18:49:19 < dongs> this whole idiotic splitting of shit between "msp" and 2 separate files is also great to follow
2017-09-27T18:49:29 < dongs> half the shit is in autogenerated main.c t he other half is in faggot_hal_msp.c
2017-09-27T18:49:34 < Laurenceb_> yeah its way overcomplex
2017-09-27T18:49:40 < dongs> no docs anywhere on how to use anything
2017-09-27T18:49:51 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2017-09-27T18:50:27 < dongs> oh
2017-09-27T18:50:31 < dongs> apparently i had to call HAL_TIM_IC_Start_DMA
2017-09-27T18:50:35 < dongs> not HAL_TIM_PWM_Start_DMA
2017-09-27T18:51:55 < dongs> yay, i get something finally
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2017-09-27T19:55:22 < dongs> > setup 32bit timer for 240000 period
2017-09-27T19:55:31 < dongs> > HAL complte callback is called at 222 cycles
2017-09-27T19:55:34 < dongs> ....
2017-09-27T19:56:03 < dongs> well, 0x222 = 546
2017-09-27T19:59:38  * Laurenceb_ is writing his presentation for Drs
2017-09-27T19:59:44 < Laurenceb_> they are not going to liek this shit
2017-09-27T20:00:04 < Laurenceb_> I'm gunna say they need to blast the babby with pink noise
2017-09-27T20:01:41 < Laurenceb_> and its nothing to do with vibration
2017-09-27T20:02:06 < Laurenceb_> clearly I need to build a vaginal accelerometer to measure fetal vibration exposure
2017-09-27T20:02:16 < Laurenceb_> this task seems relevant to my interests
2017-09-27T20:05:38 < zyp> that's the closest you get to vaginal accelerations?
2017-09-27T20:06:27 < Laurenceb_> top kek
2017-09-27T20:07:20 < dongs> so no matter what period i set for the timer, it runs out and calls stop callback within like ~200ns
2017-09-27T20:07:25 < dongs> (update irq)
2017-09-27T20:07:27 < dongs> what the shit.
2017-09-27T20:08:19 < zyp> so like immediately?
2017-09-27T20:08:31 < dongs> probably?
2017-09-27T20:19:03 < dongs> i dont know what the fuck is going on
2017-09-27T20:19:09 < dongs> toggling a led in that completion routine works
2017-09-27T20:19:14 < dongs> period looks sane to waht i configured
2017-09-27T20:19:27 < dongs> does the fucking udpate IRQ happen right on timer startup??
2017-09-27T20:20:58 < zyp> maybe
2017-09-27T20:22:24 < zyp> dongs, have you tried seggers ozone thing?
2017-09-27T20:22:28 < dongs> yes
2017-09-27T20:22:29 < dongs> its great
2017-09-27T20:22:38 < dongs> it does full source debugging too
2017-09-27T20:22:50 < zyp> cool
2017-09-27T20:22:52 < dongs> if you give it axf/elf with all relevant sores attached
2017-09-27T20:23:28 < zyp> is it worth the price difference between jlink base and jlink plus? :p
2017-09-27T20:24:19 < dongs> if you ask me nicely i may be able to license your jlink for it
2017-09-27T20:24:30 < zyp> haha, how?
2017-09-27T20:24:57 < zyp> but, eh
2017-09-27T20:24:58 < dongs> well, i think it just checks if you're licensed for flashbp/gdb/whatever thing, and those can be added by software lciense
2017-09-27T20:25:03 < zyp> "Ozone can be used without restriction for evaluation purposes."
2017-09-27T20:25:07 < dongs> ^ that
2017-09-27T20:30:19 < aandrew> ozone is good stuff
2017-09-27T20:30:23 < aandrew> not perfect but pretty damn good
2017-09-27T20:31:41 < zyp> is there any other reason to select plus over base?
2017-09-27T20:32:45 < dongs> ultra is the best choice i think. that sweet 100mhz swo
2017-09-27T20:33:57 < zyp> not like I can justify that to employer, there's no swo on cortex-r
2017-09-27T20:34:38 < englishman> think about all your other arm projects tho
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2017-09-27T20:35:01 < zyp> heh
2017-09-27T20:35:10 < dongs> if (htim->Instance == htim2.Instance && htim->Instance->CNT > 1000) {
2017-09-27T20:35:13 < dongs> nice HAL workaround
2017-09-27T20:35:18 < dongs> to avoid 1st hit
2017-09-27T20:35:28 < dongs> fucking gross, why does this shit even exist
2017-09-27T20:35:31 < zyp> hahaha
2017-09-27T20:35:40 < Laurenceb_> outsourced codez
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2017-09-27T20:39:03 < englishman> found a emoji describing dong 👨🏿‍🔬
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2017-09-27T20:40:57 < BrainDamage> spotted next laurenceb tinder story: https://i.imgur.com/8yJGzkk.png
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2017-09-27T20:44:36 < zyp> dongs, so, how does that licensing work?
2017-09-27T20:44:50 < zyp> as far as I can see, software licenses are the only difference between base and plus
2017-09-27T20:45:19 < dongs> you take serial, and get back a string like
2017-09-27T20:45:25 < dongs> License_JFlash_V0_S1234561_E123456_KF5C044C3
2017-09-27T20:45:37 < dongs> and thre's a license manager in one of jlink apps under help->about
2017-09-27T20:45:40 < dongs> where you can apply license string
2017-09-27T20:45:48 < dongs> S12345 = serial
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2017-09-27T20:47:33 < zyp> and you have a keygen or something? :p
2017-09-27T20:47:50 < aandrew> I never looked into licensing of segger stuff
2017-09-27T20:48:00 < dongs> zyp, my pal wrote it, yes
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2017-09-27T20:48:07 < aandrew> cool
2017-09-27T20:49:56 < Steffanx> Must be a pal from your timecop life
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2017-09-27T21:05:19 < dongs> oh well giving up
2017-09-27T21:05:25 < dongs> > 1000 wasn't the way either
2017-09-27T21:05:29 < dongs> timer never stops then
2017-09-27T21:05:40 < dongs> this is basic shit ive done in stdperiph 1000s of times
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2017-09-27T21:05:47 < dongs> start timer, stop it in update IRQ
2017-09-27T21:05:52 < dongs> never had these fucking problems
2017-09-27T21:06:01 < dongs> fucking hal garbage
2017-09-27T21:06:12 < dongs> are tehre any ST offices in UK? i'll bring a brick with me next week.
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2017-09-27T21:10:48 < qyx> going to meet Laurenceb_?
2017-09-27T21:11:31 < Laurenceb_> no windows inmy subterranean lair
2017-09-27T21:12:07 < Laurenceb_> also scary russian grrrl who enjoys cagefighting
2017-09-27T21:12:12 < Laurenceb_> so no bricks pls
2017-09-27T21:15:00 < Laurenceb_> http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13613324.2017.1377170
2017-09-27T21:15:04 < Laurenceb_> they are on to me
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2017-09-27T21:18:24 < Laurenceb_> hopefully they will never find the enslaved azn coders writing ST HAL
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2017-09-27T21:22:22 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKAqFmWW4AAzUVR.jpg
2017-09-27T21:23:56 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_ you should change your field of interest
2017-09-27T21:24:03 < Steffanx> you should be into death and pain more
2017-09-27T21:24:20 < Steffanx> https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/humor-sapiens/201505/thinking-about-death-and-pain-makes-people-funnier
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2017-09-27T21:29:15 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6u31eKWYAAcEYJ.jpg
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2017-09-27T21:31:43 < englishman> dongs why arent you using LL
2017-09-27T21:32:03 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Quit: leaving]
2017-09-27T21:32:06 < Laurenceb_> The relationship between the pumpkin’s position in contemporary U.S. culture and its role as an edible crop is complicated. Nevertheless, pumpkins are real, material food plants.
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2017-09-27T21:35:09 < Laurenceb_> pumpkins contribute vitamin A, beta-carotenoids, fiber, and potassium (Savoie and Hedstrom 2008).
2017-09-27T21:35:54 < kakimir> remember to drink pumpkin latte in donkin donnuts
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2017-09-27T21:40:26 < englishman> kakimir:
2017-09-27T21:40:29 < englishman> i need finnish help
2017-09-27T21:40:31 < Laurenceb_> Accumulation of critical, relational, and contextual analyses, which include pumpkins, points the way to a food studies of humanities
2017-09-27T21:40:53 < Laurenceb_> my sides are in orbit
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2017-09-27T21:41:28 < englishman> what's the word for the feeling of anticipation and anxiety you have when there is meat in the smoker for 14+ hours and you havent looked at it and you dont know if its going to turn out awesome or burned to a crisp, like schrödinger's brisket kind of situation
2017-09-27T21:42:38 < kakimir> meet*
2017-09-27T21:42:47 < Steffanx> lol, must be a finnish word for that, probably has lots of Ns in it
2017-09-27T21:43:03 < kakimir> Kurpitsa?
2017-09-27T21:43:05 < englishman> there has to be a finnish word for that
2017-09-27T21:43:16 < kakimir> pumpkin = kurpitsa
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2017-09-27T21:43:34 < Laurenceb_> whole paragraph in english =  one word?!
2017-09-27T21:43:45 < englishman> no i think kaks has me on ignore
2017-09-27T21:43:55 < Steffanx> no kakimir isnt like that englishman
2017-09-27T21:44:03 < qyx> lol
2017-09-27T21:44:04 < kakimir> yeah
2017-09-27T21:44:20 < Steffanx> kakimir do you read englishman?
2017-09-27T21:44:28 < kakimir> yes
2017-09-27T21:44:47 < kakimir> why would I ignore my favourite canadian?
2017-09-27T21:44:56 < Steffanx> because you seem to do that
2017-09-27T21:45:06 < qyx> so is there a word for that schroedinger's bacon?
2017-09-27T21:45:08 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/oeEoy86.jpg
2017-09-27T21:45:29 < Steffanx> You did photoshop?
2017-09-27T21:46:14 < Steffanx> and lol @ stvn and crt being 2 persons
2017-09-27T21:46:19 < Laurenceb_> superbia
2017-09-27T21:46:25 < aandrew> I see you didn't identify me as that bride in front. what's with the disrespect Laurenceb_?
2017-09-27T21:47:05 < Steffanx> oh superbia, not him. He killed my friend ranewen
2017-09-27T21:47:08 < englishman> stvn and crt, lol
2017-09-27T21:47:16 < aandrew> shroedinger's brisket, lol
2017-09-27T21:50:58 < Steffanx> You and superbia meet up Laurenceb_? I havent seen this pic before...
2017-09-27T21:51:21 < Laurenceb_> no homo
2017-09-27T21:51:34 < Steffanx> Talk in private.. close enough
2017-09-27T21:53:56 < englishman> is superbia Laurenceb's boss
2017-09-27T21:54:00 < englishman> is that why he came back
2017-09-27T21:54:04 < englishman> to snoop on his employee
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2017-09-27T21:55:07 < Steffanx> Ah, would explain it.
2017-09-27T21:57:38 < Laurenceb_> I'm not going to say who my boss is
2017-09-27T21:57:44 < Laurenceb_> that would be epically stupid
2017-09-27T21:57:54 < Laurenceb_> but he's on freenode
2017-09-27T21:58:14 < Laurenceb_> never in this channel (yet) luckily
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2017-09-27T21:59:32 < Steffanx> You know we are with 130 users? If we all take x channels we'll find him fast enough ;).
2017-09-27T21:59:44 < zyp> /invite Laurenceboss
2017-09-27T22:00:41 < Laurenceb_> I'm fucked
2017-09-27T22:00:53 < Steffanx>  Who was the lucky guy?
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2017-09-27T22:13:56 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJlhygVXUAU7UCC.jpg
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2017-09-27T23:28:01 < englishman> Steffanx: +o plz
2017-09-27T23:28:13 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o englishman] by ChanServ
2017-09-27T23:28:17 < Steffanx> Yes Sir!
2017-09-27T23:28:18 -!- mode/##stm32 [+b *!~laurence@81.141.246.103] by englishman
2017-09-27T23:28:23 -!- Laurenceb_ was kicked from ##stm32 by englishman [Laurenceb_]
2017-09-27T23:28:23 < Steffanx> lol
2017-09-27T23:28:33 < Steffanx> i thought you were doing gnom
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2017-09-27T23:29:17 < Steffanx> you had to.. you had to do that -_-
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2017-09-27T23:53:54 < kakimir> why is Laurenceb kicked now?
2017-09-27T23:53:59 < kakimir> and he is still here
2017-09-27T23:54:34 < kakimir> what did break the back of the camel?
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2017-09-28T00:06:09 < Rob235> whachu think of the alerts I made? https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/ (click the upload tab)
2017-09-28T00:11:37 < upgrdman> error incompat file type
2017-09-28T00:12:08 < Steffanx> On a phone?
2017-09-28T00:12:30 < upgrdman> no
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2017-09-28T00:14:56 < Rob235> on my site
2017-09-28T00:16:59  * karlp gets the error incompat file type too
2017-09-28T00:20:24 < Rob235> you are supposed to
2017-09-28T00:20:48 < Rob235> I just showed a random alert so that it shows up
2017-09-28T00:21:41 < Rob235> for all the world to seeeeeee
2017-09-28T00:24:01 < karlp> they're shit.
2017-09-28T00:24:09 < karlp> they pop up and fade away withotu confirmation
2017-09-28T00:24:23 < karlp> what error? I missed it.  did it say something?
2017-09-28T00:26:57 < Rob235> you were able to read it when complaining about getting an error. meh whatever, I like it, if you are that stupid that you click a load file button and look away for 5 seconds then I dont want you using my drawbot
2017-09-28T00:37:52 < upgrdman> gay
2017-09-28T00:38:01 < englishman> ^
2017-09-28T00:38:44 < Rob235> why
2017-09-28T00:39:31 < Rob235> if you are going to be a dick at least be a constructive dick
2017-09-28T00:40:06 < Steffanx> Lol. Dont take advice from ##stm32. Damn it. You do not do such thing, rob235
2017-09-28T00:40:08 < upgrdman> tbh, the alert looks ok but it also looking like you're trying too hard.
2017-09-28T00:40:27 < upgrdman> why pink etc.
2017-09-28T00:40:42 < englishman> says the guy who immediately refutes user stories
2017-09-28T00:40:45 < upgrdman> material design FTW, or just use the os's HIG style
2017-09-28T00:41:30 < englishman> is it the design? no, it is the users who are wrong
2017-09-28T00:41:37 < Rob235> it was just supposed to be lighter red.  I guess I am trying too hard but its kinda fun trying out different ideas
2017-09-28T00:41:56 < upgrdman> also, who the fuck uses modal alerts in 2017.
2017-09-28T00:42:09 < upgrdman> modal alert? middle-click-that-tab. it can fuck right off.
2017-09-28T00:43:32 < Rob235> what else would you use?
2017-09-28T00:44:03 < Rob235> this is my first website basically, this is all new to me
2017-09-28T00:45:21 < upgrdman> non-modal
2017-09-28T00:45:34 < upgrdman> dont block the user from content
2017-09-28T00:45:52 < upgrdman> 99% of the time they dont care about your warning/error message anyway
2017-09-28T00:47:02 < upgrdman> like for you incompat file type error... if theyre uploading a file and that happens, just draw a tooltip pointing to the upload button.
2017-09-28T00:47:07 < Rob235> so I could just make it smaller and pop up in a corner and it would be fine
2017-09-28T00:47:37 < upgrdman> pop it from where it should originate. if the user clicked a button which caused the error, point to the button they clicked.
2017-09-28T00:47:52 < upgrdman> haven't you ever used google or amazon
2017-09-28T00:49:52 < Rob235> god forbid I make a site that doesn't behave exactly like those
2017-09-28T00:50:08 < Rob235> meh I'm the only one thats going to be using this site anyway
2017-09-28T00:50:26 < Rob235> I'll keep that in mind for future shit though
2017-09-28T00:51:04 < upgrdman> im not saying to copy them
2017-09-28T00:51:18 < upgrdman> but ffs, theirs valid reasons behind some of their design choices
2017-09-28T00:51:31 < upgrdman> seriously. modal warnings/errors suck ass.
2017-09-28T00:52:00 < upgrdman> for 99% of things, theres no need for those messages to be so obnoxious.
2017-09-28T00:52:16 < upgrdman> only, like, trumps nuclear launch codes should have a modal pop up asking for confirmation.
2017-09-28T00:53:16 < upgrdman> anyway. enough autism over your alerts.
2017-09-28T00:53:30 < upgrdman> anyone been to siggraph? is it worth the price?
2017-09-28T00:53:31 < Rob235> good, I stopped listening a while ago
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2017-09-28T01:04:05 < englishman> >hey guys what do you think of my site
2017-09-28T01:04:11 < englishman> >lol fuck all of you for your feedback
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2017-09-28T01:31:26 < Rob235> funny... 
2017-09-28T01:31:53 < Rob235> I just forgot how much bullshit comes piled on top of any feedback given on irc 
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2017-09-28T02:28:34 < aandrew> Rob235: if it's an error that absolutely requires user response it'd be good for it NOT to disappear without being cleared by the use
2017-09-28T02:28:37 < aandrew> user
2017-09-28T02:29:13 < aandrew> Rob235: you complain about people giving you feedback, but take a look at what you said 
2017-09-28T02:29:24 < aandrew> < Rob235> you were able to read it when complaining about getting an error. meh whatever, I like it, if you are that stupid that you click a load file button and look away for 5 seconds then I dont want you using my drawbot
2017-09-28T02:29:52 < aandrew> what the fuck was the point of asking for opinion if you are immediately closed to anything beyond what you want to hear?
2017-09-28T02:31:35 < aandrew> there are a dozen reasons why an auto-clearing error that leaves NO FUCKING TRACE that an exception occured is a bad idea, but if you're making this just for you then do whatever you want. You asked for input. Don't bitch when we don't say ZOMG WOW THAT WAS TEH BESTEST THING I EVAR SEEN HOLY FUCK DUDE HAVE MY BABY
2017-09-28T02:32:16 < aandrew> in general it looks pretty good, but that's a pretty glaring UI issue
2017-09-28T02:33:59 < aandrew> the only "bullshit" was your response because we didn't agree with you. you create your own IRC issues
2017-09-28T02:34:12 < aandrew> anyway, back to pairing shit
2017-09-28T02:39:25 < englishman> hi aandrew 
2017-09-28T02:40:28 < englishman> did you survive last week's slightly-above-room-temperature "heat wave"
2017-09-28T02:45:15 < aandrew> yep was good
2017-09-28T02:45:19 < aandrew> it's definitely back to seasonal now
2017-09-28T02:45:24 < aandrew> temp dropped like a stone today
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2017-09-28T02:51:24 < stvn> ~~~
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2017-09-28T02:52:12 < stvn> good morning steffan
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2017-09-28T03:29:30 < ohsix> sup
2017-09-28T03:29:45 < ohsix> TheSeven: it's working great
2017-09-28T03:30:10 < ohsix> if i get a chance i'm going to compare the old one and the new one and learn some 'web D:
2017-09-28T03:30:53 < ohsix> Rob235: those 3 lines are called the hamburger
2017-09-28T03:31:14 < ohsix> and putting them on the left is not a good idea, and not to show something like that; the down arrow is def the one to do
2017-09-28T03:31:17 < Rob235> i know, i just think its a dumb name so im not saying that
2017-09-28T03:31:34 < ohsix> it's a great name, this is the first time i've actually got to say it to someone :D
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2017-09-28T03:41:31 < stvn> fan1112d
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2017-09-28T04:07:13 < dongs> englishman: LL doesnt support any peripherals
2017-09-28T04:07:27 < englishman> i think not
2017-09-28T04:08:56 < dongs> ok
2017-09-28T04:09:03 < dongs> switched to LL on everything. lets see
2017-09-28T04:12:06 < ohsix> thanks for not saying n----r a bunch while i couldn't reach my unlocked computer
2017-09-28T04:12:22 < englishman> you have to enable em
2017-09-28T04:12:26 < englishman> btw this rohs wire is amazing
2017-09-28T04:12:28 < dongs> holy shit, exti is separated from GPIO properly
2017-09-28T04:12:34 < englishman> just got some as ive been using up pounds of leaded
2017-09-28T04:12:40 < englishman> it even SMELLS nice
2017-09-28T04:12:47 < dongs> solder wire you mean/
2017-09-28T04:12:47 < englishman> why would anyone buy leaded solder
2017-09-28T04:12:49 < englishman> yes
2017-09-28T04:12:52 < dongs> right
2017-09-28T04:12:58 < dongs> i only use leadfree, its amaze
2017-09-28T04:13:05 < englishman> still hard to find 0.4mm rogs tho
2017-09-28T04:13:09 < englishman> rohs
2017-09-28T04:13:11 < dongs> not in japan
2017-09-28T04:13:14 < englishman> at least, at a decent price
2017-09-28T04:13:18 < dongs> ive got 0.3mm on my desk
2017-09-28T04:13:23 < dongs> HS-301
2017-09-28T04:13:37 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOZAN-Tool-Industrial-CO-LTD-Lead-Free-Solder-HS-301-Brand-New-from-Japan-/372048452619
2017-09-28T04:13:38 < englishman> HOZAN
2017-09-28T04:13:40 < dongs> haha LOL PRICE
2017-09-28T04:13:47 < dongs> i think it was around $30 here
2017-09-28T04:13:51 < englishman> see what i mean
2017-09-28T04:13:55 < englishman> for 100g
2017-09-28T04:14:11 < dongs> https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/kg-maido/item/hs-301/
2017-09-28T04:14:13 < dongs> not too awful
2017-09-28T04:14:21 < dongs> but yeah local shops are around 2700-2900 yenz
2017-09-28T04:14:31 < englishman> i think i have some rakuten bux
2017-09-28T04:15:05 < englishman> BackorderedDelivery time may be longer than normal.
2017-09-28T04:16:04 < englishman> this place sells ammo cheap as shit... and extremely expensive solder wire https://www.westernmetal.ca/soldering/aim-solder-13412-sac305-lead-free-water-soluble-ws482-3-cored-solder-wire-spool-0015-5-lb
2017-09-28T04:16:59 < dongs> that spool looks gross
2017-09-28T04:17:09 < dongs> the label is all dirty and shit
2017-09-28T04:17:18 < englishman> water soluble
2017-09-28T04:17:19 < englishman> https://www.westernmetal.ca/soldering/aim-solder-14099-sac305-no-clean-glowcore-solder-wire-0015-dia-05-lb-spool
2017-09-28T04:17:21 < englishman> this is the noclean
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2017-09-28T04:18:08 < dongs> fucking yank units
2017-09-28T04:18:15 < englishman> https://www.westernmetal.ca/shooting/9mm-115-grain-250-rounds-western-munitions-remanufactured-ammuntion-arw-9-115
2017-09-28T04:18:24 < englishman> i can get 250 rounds of 9mm for half the price of 0.5lb solder
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2017-09-28T04:24:36 < dongs> Error: L6218E: Undefined symbol LL_RCC_GetSystemClocksFreq (referred from stm32f0xx_ll_spi.o).
2017-09-28T04:24:39 < dongs> loo.
2017-09-28T04:24:47 < dongs> ST's own autogenerated filth doesnt work
2017-09-28T04:26:24 < dongs> had to add ll_rcc to project
2017-09-28T04:26:34 < dongs> which will undoubtedly get removed again
2017-09-28T04:26:37 < dongs> when i regenerate
2017-09-28T04:27:24 < englishman> why are you adding code outside of the designated coding areas
2017-09-28T04:27:29 < dongs> ???
2017-09-28T04:27:42 < dongs> the project cube created didn'tr include f0xx_ll_rcc.c
2017-09-28T04:28:05 < dongs> but spi driver called a function from it
2017-09-28T04:28:10 < englishman> worksonmymachine
2017-09-28T04:30:49 < dongs> well, at least the code isnt 9k compiled
2017-09-28T04:30:50 < dongs> only 4k
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2017-09-28T04:48:57 < stvn> .
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2017-09-28T04:52:59 < stvn> trying to find where the smoke came out
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2017-09-28T04:57:47 < stvn> lr3410
2017-09-28T04:57:54 < stvn> sounds pretty jewish
2017-09-28T05:00:02 < stvn> there u go englishpro - make cnc machines
2017-09-28T05:03:11 < stvn> i have some pro pictures coming up englishman 
2017-09-28T05:04:12 < dongs> business partner with 06
2017-09-28T05:05:22 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/pVMev2G.jpg
2017-09-28T05:06:34 < stvn> best coin cell i've seen in anything recent
2017-09-28T05:08:38 < stvn> some kind of 4axis cnc control by jewing-hall btw
2017-09-28T05:09:52 < stvn> they said the machine cost 50k so i expect these boards cost 100k each as spares
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2017-09-28T06:05:17 < jadew> PC froze, after reboot chrome looks like piss: https://imgur.com/a/9sjIr
2017-09-28T06:10:49 < jadew> http://heavy.com/news/2017/09/houston-shoots-gun-car-homes-videos-snapchat-reddit-houses-suspect/
2017-09-28T06:18:48 < stvn> wtf kind of url is that
2017-09-28T06:19:02 < jadew> which one?
2017-09-28T06:20:18 < stvn> houston-shoots-gun-car-homes-videos-snapchat-reddit-houses-suspect
2017-09-28T06:20:22 < stvn> lol
2017-09-28T06:20:55 < jadew> everyone uses links like that
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2017-09-28T06:24:09 < stvn> heh that diode shoudn't be shorted
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2017-09-28T06:31:45 < stvn> B5100
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2017-09-28T06:35:04 < stvn> vote if i should replace it
2017-09-28T06:38:51 < jadew> 👎
2017-09-28T06:40:29 < stvn> ok the diode has been replaced
2017-09-28T06:49:39 < dongs> jadew: ?
2017-09-28T06:49:55 < dongs> looks like you got a fail ICC profile on your monitor
2017-09-28T06:50:01 < dongs> and chrome probably just figured out how to use it
2017-09-28T06:50:22 < jadew> dongs, I do have an ICC profile, but that's why everything else looks properly
2017-09-28T06:50:26 < jadew> *looks right
2017-09-28T06:53:10 < stvn> now is the simpleswitcher ic short or the 3v3 rail
2017-09-28T06:53:43 < stvn> should i pull the output inductor to isolate the dog?
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2017-09-28T07:16:46 < stvn> help
2017-09-28T07:17:41 < dongs> im dicknplacing
2017-09-28T07:21:39 < stvn> sot23-5 C20A google fixed it for me
2017-09-28T07:22:37 < stvn> and here i was believing those markings meant nothing
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2017-09-28T07:35:32 < stvn> trilogy of magnetics
2017-09-28T07:35:56 < stvn> Steffanx
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2017-09-28T07:54:32 < englishman> stvn: news flash
2017-09-28T07:54:38 < englishman> kittens found a mouse
2017-09-28T07:54:52 < englishman> but they were too stupid to kill it and it got away under the dishwasher
2017-09-28T07:55:08 < englishman> live blogging you heard it here first
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2017-09-28T09:07:12 < ReadErr> new kittans?
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2017-09-28T09:13:53 < dongs> _> trying out kicad just to see how shit it is
2017-09-28T09:13:53 < dongs> _> it's already clear that it has the GNU/Linux philosophy in that it consists of a bunch of poorly braided together pieces of software that communicate via ASCII files
2017-09-28T09:13:56 < dongs> lol
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2017-09-28T10:25:53 < invzim> gah, micro-usb connector actually needs to protrude a bit to be level on the pcb
2017-09-28T10:26:39 < invzim> dongs: you do your own panelization?
2017-09-28T10:46:00 < invzim> yup, me bad - actually diggint into the pcb https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8P7XCTh21esOWdURldsbGVGU3c
2017-09-28T10:46:04 < invzim> digging
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2017-09-28T10:51:10 < dongs> invzim: no, i just mspaint how i want the array and let the cam pros at pcb do it
2017-09-28T10:51:26 < dongs>  < invzim> gah, micro-usb connector actually needs to protrude a bit to be level on the pcb
2017-09-28T10:51:29 < dongs> correct
2017-09-28T10:51:38 < dongs> ive got lots of panelized boards where they're spaced a bit exactly for this
2017-09-28T10:51:52 < dongs> and some where i had to make a cutout in the pcba guide rail to make usb fit
2017-09-28T10:52:55 < fest> invzim: it's also needed to be able to fully connect cable
2017-09-28T10:53:35 < fest> the first board I laid out with microusb actually had the connector ~5mm from board edge
2017-09-28T10:53:49 < dongs> heh
2017-09-28T10:54:13 < fest> the dumb-dumb feeling didn't stop for a few days when I realized what I had done :)
2017-09-28T10:55:33 < dongs> how did you manage that anyawy?
2017-09-28T10:55:36 < dongs> used kikecad or something?
2017-09-28T10:55:40 < fest> exactly
2017-09-28T10:56:00 < fest> and didn't bother to search for 3d model for that connector
2017-09-28T10:56:15 < dongs> i'm sure it had nothing to do with 3d model integration in kikecad being an awful mess
2017-09-28T10:59:53 < fest> I'm sure the root cause analysis would reveal gross incompetence on my side ;>
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2017-09-28T11:11:53 < ohsix> syo'
2017-09-28T11:13:17 < ohsix> englishman: rohs wire? eutectic?
2017-09-28T11:13:21 < ohsix> wat solvent is in it
2017-09-28T11:13:36 < ohsix> i have some leaded that isn't rosin and it smells a little flowery
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2017-09-28T11:18:04 < zyp> dongs, and my board where you forgot
2017-09-28T11:18:16 < zyp> the nfc readers, IIRC
2017-09-28T11:18:28 < zyp> those have usb connector on top of guide rail
2017-09-28T11:26:09 < invzim> I guess it's safer to route out a part of the PCB instead of telling manufacturer that they need panel strip or thick routing just there
2017-09-28T11:26:58 < invzim> this is just a proto anyway, and no physical issues with the connector being slighly tilted
2017-09-28T11:27:40 < zyp> yeah, I haven't had any defects on nfc boards due to that yet either
2017-09-28T11:27:50 < zyp> I haven't had any defects at all, actually
2017-09-28T11:27:59 < invzim> medal is coming your way
2017-09-28T11:28:21 < zyp> well, the volume isn't really statistically significant yet
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2017-09-28T12:47:40 < stvn> steffan
2017-09-28T12:47:45 < stvn> i know you're hiding
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2017-09-28T13:05:32 < karlp> goddamn
2017-09-28T13:05:50 < karlp> added "static" to a function as it wasn't used outside that file late in teh day
2017-09-28T13:06:06 < karlp> compiler happily decided to then ignore the RAMFUNCTION attribute
2017-09-28T13:06:12 < dongs> lol GNU
2017-09-28T13:06:23 < karlp> no fucking wonder my goddamn half page flashing was locking up
2017-09-28T13:06:39 < stvn> i want to throw a sausage at Steffanx 
2017-09-28T13:06:40 < karlp> fucking tearing my hair out yesterday afternoon
2017-09-28T13:13:26 < Steffanx> Uh
2017-09-28T13:13:48 < stvn> remember that thing they wanted fixed
2017-09-28T13:38:22 < Steffanx> Yes..
2017-09-28T13:39:03 < stvn> fun fun fun
2017-09-28T13:39:14 < Steffanx> That was it? :p
2017-09-28T13:39:25 < stvn> has like 16 half bridges, most with blown gate drive stages or fets
2017-09-28T13:39:37 < Steffanx> How?
2017-09-28T13:39:41 < stvn> well
2017-09-28T13:39:45 < stvn> they turned it on
2017-09-28T13:39:48 < stvn> it went farken bang
2017-09-28T13:39:57 < stvn> that was what they said
2017-09-28T13:40:07 < Steffanx> 230v at wrong input like you showed before?
2017-09-28T13:40:11 < stvn> nah
2017-09-28T13:40:30 < stvn> once the parts come in, at least i can see if the computer is exploded too
2017-09-28T13:41:34 < stvn> really hoping for their sake this board is at least $5000
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2017-09-28T13:42:17 < Steffanx> :D
2017-09-28T13:42:24 < Steffanx> But 2 days...?
2017-09-28T13:42:30 < stvn> lol
2017-09-28T13:42:40 < stvn> yeah i told them to eat it or beat it with that
2017-09-28T13:42:55 < stvn> can't even get digiprick to deliver that quick ya?
2017-09-28T13:43:05 < Steffanx> But sales guy sold it for 2 days
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2017-09-28T13:43:20 < stvn> nah he didn't sell shit
2017-09-28T13:43:42 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/8Bqo9PR.png
2017-09-28T13:43:50 < stvn> i'm recapacitoring an amplifier
2017-09-28T13:44:24 < dongs> whats pending mean
2017-09-28T13:44:31 < stvn> means they can suck me off
2017-09-28T13:44:34 < dongs> order just placed?
2017-09-28T13:44:37 < stvn> yea
2017-09-28T13:44:42 < Steffanx> Such mouser
2017-09-28T13:44:44 < stvn> like 5 seconds ago
2017-09-28T13:45:07 < stvn> i'm looking at these gook caps
2017-09-28T13:45:15 < stvn> ' j.j.' 'nover'
2017-09-28T13:45:25 < stvn> do they change the brand name every fortnight
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2017-09-28T13:51:15 < Steffanx> Waffle time stvn
2017-09-28T13:51:21 < stvn> where?
2017-09-28T13:51:40 < Steffanx> House of crt
2017-09-28T13:51:44 < ReadErr> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Whw4glNr/Screenshot_20170928-063618.png
2017-09-28T13:51:56 < stvn> hello welcome!
2017-09-28T13:52:24 < dongs> nice dixus5 there bro
2017-09-28T13:52:27 < stvn> Order Confirmation
2017-09-28T13:52:27 < stvn> Purchase Order Number :	SMASHERS
2017-09-28T13:54:23 < ReadErr> ya how did u know
2017-09-28T13:57:52 < stvn> the motherfuckkin ddos king
2017-09-28T14:00:32 < ReadErr> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/cuGrTQOK/Screenshot_20170928-065952.png
2017-09-28T14:00:42 < ReadErr> lol its just been sitting, with the screen off
2017-09-28T14:00:49 < ReadErr> 91->83 that fast
2017-09-28T14:00:58 < dongs> LUNIX DONGS
2017-09-28T14:01:39 < ReadErr> like how the fuck can they make something that sucks so bad
2017-09-28T14:01:47 < stvn> hey man
2017-09-28T14:01:55 < stvn> its an improvement over the note7
2017-09-28T14:03:17 < stvn> i have a few loaner amplifiers out for customers in dire straits 
2017-09-28T14:03:50 < stvn> i feel some of these customers are taking the piss
2017-09-28T14:04:47 < stvn> maybe after 100 hours it shall spit out anti-semitic remarks
2017-09-28T14:04:49 < stvn> y/n?
2017-09-28T14:06:43 < stvn> only add stm32 pros
2017-09-28T14:07:58 < stvn> 2x5mm pink leds?
2017-09-28T14:08:59 < Steffanx> What wavelength?
2017-09-28T14:09:14 < stvn> whatever looks pink
2017-09-28T14:09:29 < stvn> half the 'pink' leds i've seen just have a filter
2017-09-28T14:09:58 < jpa-> there isn't a wavelength that looks pink
2017-09-28T14:10:05 < stvn> well there you go
2017-09-28T14:10:34 < Steffanx> Trick question :P
2017-09-28T14:11:21 < stvn> hmmm
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2017-09-28T14:11:37 < dongs> i got some pro 0805 pink leds
2017-09-28T14:11:43 < stvn> tell me more
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2017-09-28T14:12:25 < stvn> apparently my job is to make every indicator pink
2017-09-28T14:12:27 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/z8ajE67.jpg
2017-09-28T14:12:28 < stvn> :/
2017-09-28T14:12:42 < stvn> nice dongle
2017-09-28T14:13:04 < dongs> i wish coding for it was as nice
2017-09-28T14:13:05 < stvn> even better stm32 content
2017-09-28T14:13:09 < dongs> totally
2017-09-28T14:13:44 < stvn> so to use displayport isn't as jewish as hdmi?
2017-09-28T14:13:56 < dongs> yeah, displayport doesnt have a JEW LICENSE
2017-09-28T14:14:04 < stvn> excellent.
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2017-09-28T14:14:39 < Steffanx> Hello Welcome!
2017-09-28T14:14:42 < stvn> ^
2017-09-28T14:14:44 < stvn> what he said
2017-09-28T14:20:57 < stvn> LEDs though
2017-09-28T14:22:02 < stvn> i should relaunch my pig driveres
2017-09-28T14:22:05 < stvn> *driveres
2017-09-28T14:22:11 < stvn> *drivers
2017-09-28T14:26:52 < invzim> he, yes, the usb code from cube is large and not super clear - not that I'm super familiar with the inner workings of USB anyho
2017-09-28T14:26:52 < stvn> Steffanx, did i tell you a pioneer power supply used a $9 capacitor?
2017-09-28T14:28:29 < Steffanx> Nein
2017-09-28T14:28:41 < stvn> rs232 4lyf
2017-09-28T14:29:22 < dongs> autism 4lyf
2017-09-28T14:29:30 < stvn> lol
2017-09-28T14:29:44 < stvn> srsly that seems to be the norm in 'pro' audio
2017-09-28T14:29:52 < stvn> fucking $20,000 amplifier
2017-09-28T14:29:55 < stvn> RS232
2017-09-28T14:30:05 < dongs> at 9600 baud?
2017-09-28T14:30:12 < stvn> https://nexo-sa.com/products/nxamp4x4/
2017-09-28T14:30:12 < dongs> wjats pm ot
2017-09-28T14:30:16 < dongs> err
2017-09-28T14:30:19 < dongs> whats on that port
2017-09-28T14:30:26 < stvn> dogshit
2017-09-28T14:30:29 < stvn> aka firmware
2017-09-28T14:30:37 < dongs> oh
2017-09-28T14:30:49 < dongs> 2cheap4ftdi
2017-09-28T14:30:56 < dongs> maybe afraid of clonez
2017-09-28T14:30:59 < stvn> tis worse
2017-09-28T14:31:07 < stvn> fucking usb -> rs232
2017-09-28T14:31:11 < stvn> pig disgusting
2017-09-28T14:33:39 < stvn> but they have japanese technology
2017-09-28T14:34:27 < stvn> 􀭺􀢠􀍷􀒐􀮔􀎛􀔼􀬆􀍴􀎷􀎿􀏄􀍠􀍯􀉺􀰿􀝯􀎵􀎠􀎿􀎽􀎛􀏑􀏩
2017-09-28T14:34:28 < stvn> 􀏯􀏄􀏍􀏉􀏧􀎁􀤔􀎓􀷇􀍚􀎇􀍢􀉻
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2017-09-28T14:35:43 < stvn> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/957895/Nexo-Nxamp-4x4.html
2017-09-28T14:37:44 < stvn> get ya cloning boots on
2017-09-28T14:41:56 < stvn> those yammyha EEEngine are good
2017-09-28T14:43:11 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK-NoHjSgF8
2017-09-28T14:43:31 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-09-28T14:43:44 < Laurenceb> I'm a gunna troll the Drs
2017-09-28T14:43:54 < stvn> dr blaxta
2017-09-28T14:43:59 < Laurenceb> we need to blast the babbies with 70dB pink noise
2017-09-28T14:44:07 < Laurenceb> for their own good goddamit
2017-09-28T14:44:13 < stvn> truly sorry for  your lots
2017-09-28T14:44:23 < stvn>  ##stm32: *!~laurence@81.141.246.103 on Thu Sep 28 06:28:17 2017 by englishman!sid120659@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wughzggualphhyxy
2017-09-28T14:44:54 < Laurenceb> wut
2017-09-28T14:44:59 < Laurenceb> b&
2017-09-28T14:45:26 < stvn> i need some good jew hate music
2017-09-28T14:48:06 < stvn> what was the saddest thing about the holocaust
2017-09-28T14:48:10 < stvn> it was not finished
2017-09-28T14:53:59 < stvn> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cNBijDlSwWc/UaMcDHpm-xI/AAAAAAABklo/QX046VaUCxg/s1600/1241615383045.gif
2017-09-28T15:01:23 < stvn> laurence
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2017-09-28T15:19:47 < dongs> autogeneraetd LL shit is gross. just gonna copy that shit out and write it all myself
2017-09-28T15:20:10 < dongs> i wish shit like libopencm3 wasnt absolute fucking aids
2017-09-28T15:20:15 < dongs> then I could actually use something that works
2017-09-28T15:20:18 < zyp> haha
2017-09-28T15:20:42 < dongs> LL, HAL stuff is fucking awful, completely fucking awful
2017-09-28T15:20:49 < zyp> LL?
2017-09-28T15:20:56 < dongs> lowlevel shit in newer cube
2017-09-28T15:21:02 < zyp> oh
2017-09-28T15:21:02 < dongs> less bloat, more retarded verbosity
2017-09-28T15:21:15 < dongs>     LL_TIM_IC_SetActiveInput(TIM1, LL_TIM_CHANNEL_CH1, LL_TIM_ACTIVEINPUT_DIRECTTI);    LL_TIM_IC_SetPrescaler(TIM1, LL_TIM_CHANNEL_CH1, LL_TIM_ICPSC_DIV1);    LL_TIM_IC_SetFilter(TIM1, LL_TIM_CHANNEL_CH1, LL_TIM_IC_FILTER_FDIV1);    LL_TIM_IC_SetPolarity(TIM1, LL_TIM_CHANNEL_CH1, LL_TIM_IC_POLARITY_RISING);
2017-09-28T15:21:28 < dongs> needs moar caps
2017-09-28T15:21:32 < zyp> haha, fuck off
2017-09-28T15:21:39 < dongs> ikr?
2017-09-28T15:22:02 < dongs> at least they put most of that shit as inline functions
2017-09-28T15:22:13 < dongs> so most of the crap just ersolves into TIMx->FAGGOT = BLAH;
2017-09-28T15:22:16 < dongs> but still, gross
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2017-09-28T15:23:49 < dongs> LL_TIM_EnableIT_CC1(TIM1);
2017-09-28T15:23:53 < dongs> etc
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2017-09-28T15:31:27 < dongs> great. setup everything, but not getting CC interrupts
2017-09-28T15:31:53 < dongs> timer is actualy running
2017-09-28T15:38:00 < zyp> NVIC?
2017-09-28T15:38:06 < dongs> enabled
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2017-09-28T15:40:15 < dongs> Enable capture from the counter into the capture register by setting the CC1E bit in the
2017-09-28T15:40:18 < dongs> TIMx_CCER register.
2017-09-28T15:40:20 < dongs> dont think this is getting done
2017-09-28T15:40:25 < dongs> now to find what fucking macro enables that
2017-09-28T15:40:44 < dongs> LL_TIM_CC_EnableChannel()
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2017-09-28T15:41:59 < dongs> so, the edges are shortest case 45 pulses @ 48MHz
2017-09-28T15:42:13 < dongs> 20.83ns*45
2017-09-28T15:42:24 < dongs> i dont think i can capture these without dma, right?
2017-09-28T15:42:41 < dongs> isnt M0 ISR entry already few dozen clock cycles
2017-09-28T15:44:10 < karlp> hrmm, offsetof is kinda gross to use.
2017-09-28T15:44:34 < karlp> need to cast struct pointer to char * to be able to do addition with the offsetof result,
2017-09-28T15:44:48 < karlp> need to cast back to correct type of struct member afterwards anyway.
2017-09-28T15:45:24 < dongs> is that C++
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2017-09-28T15:46:40 < karlp> no, c.
2017-09-28T15:47:40 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offsetof
2017-09-28T15:47:44 < karlp> have an array of structs { int val1; int valBB;} wanted to use the same code to calculate averages of val1 as averages of valb.
2017-09-28T15:47:48 < dongs> While this implementation works correctly in many compilers, it has undefined behavior according to the C standard
2017-09-28T15:48:13 < karlp> that's referring to that implementation
2017-09-28T15:48:28 < dongs> Some modern compilers (such as GCC) define the macro using a special form instead
2017-09-28T15:48:29 < karlp> and as it's an ansi macro in stddef.h, it's provided by your compiler,
2017-09-28T15:48:32 < dongs> haha
2017-09-28T15:48:34 < dongs>  modern
2017-09-28T15:48:38 < karlp> so that it actually does the right thing on your own compiler.
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2017-09-28T16:02:14 < stvn> niggers
2017-09-28T16:05:30 < dongs> haha, since i dropped HAL, starting input capture on exti rising actually works and starts from same pulse
2017-09-28T16:05:36 < dongs> with HAL it would miss first few pulses
2017-09-28T16:05:48 < dongs> just while it was jumping through HAL_FUCKOFF_CALLBACK_INTO_CALLBACK() shit
2017-09-28T16:06:17 < stvn> hal is pretty bad
2017-09-28T16:07:21 < stvn> like unusable
2017-09-28T16:08:32 < stvn> i'm sure your example is one of many more
2017-09-28T16:11:49 < Steffanx> HAL includes LL stuff? Do you do hardcore register writing now dongs?
2017-09-28T16:12:29 < stvn> o hi stffan
2017-09-28T16:16:16 < dongs> includes
2017-09-28T16:17:17 < dongs> i need to figure out a way to stop DMA when theres no more pulses happening after x ns
2017-09-28T16:17:41 < stvn> no time for nanoseconds
2017-09-28T16:21:41 < stvn> i'm still waiting on Steffanx to deliver me trilogy of magnetics
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2017-09-28T16:22:20 < dongs> if a timer is running and I modify its ->CNT does it get reseT?
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2017-09-28T16:23:40 < stvn> AN4776
2017-09-28T16:25:56 < dongs> naw
2017-09-28T16:26:32 < englishman> AN1488
2017-09-28T16:26:43 < stvn> almost looked it up
2017-09-28T16:26:45 < stvn> you prick
2017-09-28T16:26:53 < dongs> haha
2017-09-28T16:27:04 < stvn> http://www.microchip.com/wwwAppNotes/AppNotes.aspx?appnote=en560799
2017-09-28T16:27:05 < stvn> oh
2017-09-28T16:27:06 < stvn> well.
2017-09-28T16:27:18 < dongs> aids
2017-09-28T16:27:39 < stvn> i fondly remember invoice 1488
2017-09-28T16:28:10 < dongs> The TIMx_CNT timer register is used to read and write the content of the timer counter. 
2017-09-28T16:28:15 < dongs> but can i write it while timer is running?
2017-09-28T16:28:17 < dongs> that is THE QUESTION
2017-09-28T16:28:26 < stvn> i hear ya, been looking too
2017-09-28T16:28:29 < englishman> yeah i think ive done this
2017-09-28T16:28:33 < stvn> nothing to clarify
2017-09-28T16:28:59 < stvn> if it could reset
2017-09-28T16:29:20 < zyp> dongs, wat, of course you can
2017-09-28T16:29:54 < zyp> although why do you want to?
2017-09-28T16:30:03 < stvn> that is the question
2017-09-28T16:30:39 < dongs> zyp, like i said
2017-09-28T16:30:46 < dongs> i have DMA with way more reads than necessary
2017-09-28T16:30:57 < dongs> i start a 'timeout' timer together with 1st pulse
2017-09-28T16:31:02 < dongs> then as i keep getting pulses, i reset the timer
2017-09-28T16:31:21 < dongs> then its configured to fuck off after xxx timeout timer cycles, and turn off DMA
2017-09-28T16:31:25 < dongs> means end of trnasmission / whatever
2017-09-28T16:31:31 < dongs> at least thats the idea
2017-09-28T16:31:33 < zyp> should be fine
2017-09-28T16:31:35 < englishman> yea so just write 0 to cnt
2017-09-28T16:31:43 < dongs> right, thats what im getting setup to do
2017-09-28T16:31:56 < dongs> hopefully poor m0 can handle this
2017-09-28T16:32:26 < englishman> with room to spare
2017-09-28T16:32:44 < dongs> i wouldnt be so sure
2017-09-28T16:33:15  * stvn googles time in canada
2017-09-28T16:33:19 < stvn> morningman
2017-09-28T16:33:25 < englishman> are you planning to hit 32k
2017-09-28T16:33:32 < englishman> hello evening stven
2017-09-28T16:33:34 < dongs> 32k?
2017-09-28T16:33:41 < stvn>  o/
2017-09-28T16:33:49 < englishman> what would limit you on m0
2017-09-28T16:33:52 < englishman> f042
2017-09-28T16:33:57 < dongs> processor speed.
2017-09-28T16:34:05 < stvn> all you mofos have fun, time to cook up a midnight snack and fuckoff
2017-09-28T16:34:07 < dongs> the pulses are 45 cycles
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2017-09-28T16:34:24 < englishman> still 3x faster than arduino clock
2017-09-28T16:35:00 < englishman> how many cycles does mov 0,rx take
2017-09-28T16:35:06  * Laurenceb is at his jerb
2017-09-28T16:35:13 < Laurenceb> basement intensifies
2017-09-28T16:35:41 < Laurenceb> today we had a 2 hour meeting to discuss writing a report
2017-09-28T16:35:52 < Laurenceb> which would document our decision making process
2017-09-28T16:36:21 < dongs> englishman: there's also IRQ entry
2017-09-28T16:36:30 < dongs> which is i think some significant number
2017-09-28T16:36:47 < dongs> something interrupt latency
2017-09-28T16:37:10 < dongs> hm 16 cycles
2017-09-28T16:37:12 < englishman> your pulses are coming at 1MHz+ ?
2017-09-28T16:37:15 < dongs> yes
2017-09-28T16:37:16 < dongs> 1mhz
2017-09-28T16:37:18 < dongs> exactly
2017-09-28T16:37:21 < englishman> well thats pretty quick
2017-09-28T16:37:24 < dongs> right.
2017-09-28T16:37:41 < englishman> you might have to upgrade to dspic
2017-09-28T16:38:00 < dongs> why bother? just go straight to intel arria gx fpga
2017-09-28T16:38:45 < dongs> Cortex-M0 16 cycles
2017-09-28T16:38:49 < dongs> irq latency apparently
2017-09-28T16:39:03 < jadew> http://dilbert.com/strip/2017-09-11
2017-09-28T16:39:37 < dongs> not what i expected on 9/11
2017-09-28T16:39:54 < jadew> hah, didn't notice it
2017-09-28T16:40:15 < karlp> just another day y0
2017-09-28T16:41:43 < dongs> hm.
2017-09-28T16:41:45 < dongs> it seems towork
2017-09-28T16:41:53 < dongs> but DMA continues to copy same capcom value until end of DMA 
2017-09-28T16:41:54 < dongs> wtf
2017-09-28T16:46:46 < karlp> if it's exactly 1Mhz, aren't you expecting to get the same value over and over
2017-09-28T16:48:32 < Laurenceb> Hef is single-handedly responsible for the death of millions of my children. R.I.P. gentle giant.
2017-09-28T16:48:50 < dongs> karlp: ?
2017-09-28T16:48:56 < dongs> its 1mhz manchester
2017-09-28T16:49:06 < dongs> so the width is either 45/46 or double that
2017-09-28T16:49:29 < dongs> but thre's also some non-standard pulse widths for start of frame and shit
2017-09-28T16:53:35 < karlp> (was just teasing, you said earlier it was exactly 1Mhz)
2017-09-28T16:55:56 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/0TfTsCJ.png cool, timeout thing works
2017-09-28T16:56:33 < karlp> resetting TMC_CNT=0 after pulses is how I think my modbus t3.5 timerout works too.
2017-09-28T16:56:52 < dongs> i set it to 1
2017-09-28T16:57:02 < dongs> i think i was getting immediate update irq if i did to zero
2017-09-28T16:57:06 < dongs> but maybe that was something else
2017-09-28T16:57:19 < karlp> you were using an irq on update? not an irq on matching some "limit" ?
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2017-09-28T16:57:29 < englishman> is a barrel jack where theres a pin on the cable end still called a barrel jack? or something else
2017-09-28T16:57:31 < dongs> update
2017-09-28T16:57:36 < dongs> cuz why limit?
2017-09-28T16:57:41 < dongs> period = the timeout value
2017-09-28T16:57:44 < karlp> you have a timeframe you're planning right?
2017-09-28T16:57:47 < dongs> yes
2017-09-28T16:57:54 < karlp> why have a timeout if no limit?
2017-09-28T16:58:04 < dongs> yeah, but timer period = the timeout
2017-09-28T16:58:22 < dongs> i reset it on getting each pulse
2017-09-28T16:58:26 < dongs> so when i get final pulse
2017-09-28T16:58:30 < dongs> no more reset
2017-09-28T16:58:39 < dongs> and when it rolls over / update = receive complete
2017-09-28T16:58:41 < karlp> shouldn't be getting update irqs when you maually set to zero then...
2017-09-28T16:58:53 < dongs> ya i just tried 0 and it works. so it was probly somethin else
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2017-09-28T17:00:37 < dongs> i need to respond within 300us...
2017-09-28T17:00:39 < dongs> damn
2017-09-28T17:01:14 < dongs> thats only 14k cycles on M0 :(
2017-09-28T17:03:53 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/GiH3Pbh.png
2017-09-28T17:04:02 < englishman> its ~7.3mm outer but <1mm inner pin
2017-09-28T17:04:05 < englishman> and i need to find the mate
2017-09-28T17:06:09 < englishman> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/shit/32676273326.html
2017-09-28T17:06:10 < englishman> hmhmhmh
2017-09-28T17:06:39 < dongs> fucking hate those retarded custom shits
2017-09-28T17:06:46 < englishman> yes
2017-09-28T17:06:48 < dongs> everyone should move to usb-c
2017-09-28T17:07:09 < englishman> with ZNAPS
2017-09-28T17:07:14 < dongs> snort
2017-09-28T17:07:56 < englishman> no barrel measurements on any chinapage of course
2017-09-28T17:09:45 < dongs> ok so im getting same weird fucking shit
2017-09-28T17:09:50 < dongs> of DMA only transfering a few bytes
2017-09-28T17:10:01 < dongs> even tho its stopped way after pulses are done
2017-09-28T17:10:01 < dongs> hmm
2017-09-28T17:10:31 < zyp> isn't the inner pin just data?
2017-09-28T17:10:53 < zyp> barrel is double layer, so inside/outside carries the power
2017-09-28T17:11:01 < zyp> and then inner pin is data
2017-09-28T17:11:08 < englishman> yes probably
2017-09-28T17:11:14 < englishman> and yes inner barrel is not shorted to outer or anything
2017-09-28T17:12:21 < englishman> hmm tested
2017-09-28T17:12:28 < englishman> outer barrel to inner pin gets voltage
2017-09-28T17:12:33 < englishman> inner barrel is 0v
2017-09-28T17:12:46 < englishman> this isnt a dell cable tho
2017-09-28T17:12:56 < englishman> but those dell receptacles are the most similar
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2017-09-28T17:26:49 < dongs> wonder if i can overclock this f0
2017-09-28T17:27:08 < dongs> RCC_CFGR_PLLMUL6 goes up to 16
2017-09-28T17:35:50 < dongs> works
2017-09-28T17:35:51 < dongs> at 72mhz
2017-09-28T17:35:52 < dongs> cool
2017-09-28T17:36:11 < dongs> less worry about cycles
2017-09-28T17:40:17 < Thorn> >The term is open-ended, allowing for the presence of more than that which is recited so long as basic or novel characteristics of that which is recited is not changed by the presence of more than that which is recited, but excludes prior art embodiments.
2017-09-28T17:41:53 < Thorn> from BrainDamage patent application
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2017-09-28T17:44:47 < karlp> https://www.seeedstudio.com/Solr-a-digital-wrist-watch-g-991024?utm_source=mailchimp&utm_medium=edm&utm_campaign=new_0928
2017-09-28T17:46:12 < Laurenceb> ErrorCategory	"BadRequest"
2017-09-28T17:46:12 < Laurenceb> ErrorMessage	"Missing required request header."
2017-09-28T17:46:18 < Laurenceb> office 365 intensifies
2017-09-28T17:46:19 < dongs> fgtr
2017-09-28T17:46:35 < Laurenceb> Access Denied 
2017-09-28T17:46:50 < gxti> to the cloud!
2017-09-28T17:47:15 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msX4oAXpvUE
2017-09-28T17:47:20 < Laurenceb> trying to use office 365
2017-09-28T17:53:15 < englishman> lol karlp 
2017-09-28T17:53:22 < englishman> a smartwatch that Thorn can afford
2017-09-28T17:54:39 < englishman> wow i might actually have an stm32 project soon
2017-09-28T17:55:44 < Steffanx> Not so mean englishman
2017-09-28T17:56:18 < englishman> 😼
2017-09-28T17:56:36 < englishman> you're right i have to be nice until he posts the snuff video of bobcat guy
2017-09-28T17:56:52 < englishman> 🐱‍💻
2017-09-28T17:57:00 < englishman> The Hacker Cat emoji is a sequence of the 🐱 Cat Face and 💻 Personal Computer emojis.
2017-09-28T18:01:25 < Thorn> no more bobcat videos for englishman 
2017-09-28T18:01:32 < Thorn> the bobcats barely got rescued, they're in a shelter
2017-09-28T18:01:39 < Thorn> his crackpot father took over his house and property and wanted to put down all his animals 
2017-09-28T18:01:56 < englishman> geez
2017-09-28T18:02:12 < englishman> tooo bad he didnt have his father put down
2017-09-28T18:02:21 < karlp> so, there was bobcat dude, was that same couple as bobcat girl? or is that another person with bobcat videos altogether?
2017-09-28T18:02:41 < englishman> bobcat girl sold the bobcat videos, because who wants to watch a sweaty russian dude
2017-09-28T18:04:08 < Thorn> he had ~300 snakes some of which are unique morphs or something
2017-09-28T18:04:28 < Thorn> some cost $7k+
2017-09-28T18:13:09 < tomeaton17> dongs: You got a f0 working at 72MHz? Cool I am looking to downgrade from my f1 because the f0 tssop 20 is really convient
2017-09-28T18:13:16 < tomeaton17> *convenient
2017-09-28T18:15:48 < zyp> "tested working in a single lab condition" is different from "guaranteed working over the entire temperature/voltage range"
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2017-09-28T18:25:52 < dongs> tomeaton17: thre's nothing to "make" it work. I jsut increased pll multiplier to 72mhz
2017-09-28T18:25:56 < dongs> of course shit like usb etc wont be working
2017-09-28T18:26:04 < dongs> but basic stuff im using like timers/gpio/etc seems ok
2017-09-28T18:26:14 < dongs> and what zyp said
2017-09-28T18:26:23 < englishman> usb might still work if its clocked from hsi48
2017-09-28T18:26:30 < tomeaton17> ok
2017-09-28T18:27:00 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/JAdAFwY.png looks like my dma capture worked
2017-09-28T18:27:39 < englishman> dongs, maybe you should have tried PSOC http://www.cypress.com/file/138821/download
2017-09-28T18:27:52 < dongs> englishman: is that the psoc manchester appnote
2017-09-28T18:27:56 < englishman> yes
2017-09-28T18:27:57 < dongs> using their shitty programmable logic
2017-09-28T18:28:00 < dongs> yeah, i saw that a whiel back
2017-09-28T18:28:04 < englishman> that doesnt even exist on the good chips yes
2017-09-28T18:28:06 < dongs> i think i'll be ok without it
2017-09-28T18:28:47 < englishman> can be done in hardware on PIC16 http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01470A.pdf
2017-09-28T18:29:03 < englishman> stfailmicro
2017-09-28T18:29:08 < zyp> dongs, you know, if you used xmos, you could dedicate a core or two to it!
2017-09-28T18:29:17 < dongs> haha
2017-09-28T18:29:24 < dongs> or propeller, rite??
2017-09-28T18:29:47 < zyp> apparently they killed off the xmos+cortex-m part
2017-09-28T18:30:25 < dongs> shocking
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2017-09-28T18:30:40 < dongs> you can singlehandedly kill the rest
2017-09-28T18:30:46 < dongs> by writing async usb audio class for stm32
2017-09-28T18:31:03 < dongs> this is the only reason xmos is even in business
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2017-09-28T18:37:02 < Laurenceb> heh
2017-09-28T18:37:14 < Laurenceb> how do I bypass office365
2017-09-28T18:37:19 < Laurenceb> that is the question
2017-09-28T18:37:24 < dongs> bywhat
2017-09-28T18:38:33 < Laurenceb> use thunderbird or something
2017-09-28T18:38:40 < Laurenceb> thats not javascript cancer
2017-09-28T18:40:23 < dongs> the hell is office 365
2017-09-28T18:40:28 < Laurenceb> cancer
2017-09-28T18:44:14 < Laurenceb> cpu at 100%
2017-09-28T18:44:36 < Laurenceb> firefox just crashes immediately
2017-09-28T18:45:57 < Rickta59> is firefox still a thing?
2017-09-28T18:46:23 < zyp> no
2017-09-28T18:46:51 < Rickta59> ... looking at stats .. firefox 7.4%
2017-09-28T18:47:00 < Rickta59> chrome 44.5%
2017-09-28T18:47:03 < englishman> are you sure office365 is compatible with anything except EDge
2017-09-28T18:49:00 < englishman> Now in full production, the STM8S001J3M3 offers performance, robustness and reduced system cost in an SO8 package.
2017-09-28T18:49:00 < Rickta59> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Office-Online-browser-support-AD1303E0-A318-47AA-B409-D3A5EB44E452
2017-09-28T18:49:07 < englishman> nice
2017-09-28T18:49:35 < englishman> only 5x the size and 10x more uselessness than 3x3 qfn-20
2017-09-28T19:01:04 < dongs> wait isnt swo also manchester
2017-09-28T19:01:15 < dongs> i could just steal that shit from openocd
2017-09-28T19:02:14 < englishman> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0314h/Chdgcbbg.html
2017-09-28T19:03:29 < englishman> sourceforge
2017-09-28T19:03:34 < dongs> ya it is
2017-09-28T19:04:54 < karlp> swo is either nrz (uart) or manchester and themanchester version isn't used much
2017-09-28T19:05:01 < karlp> and oocd doesn't have the manchester decoding
2017-09-28T19:05:05 < dongs> doh
2017-09-28T19:05:11 < karlp> iirc, the BMP code has menchester decoding though
2017-09-28T19:05:16 < englishman> who wants to bet openocd doesnt have manchoh.
2017-09-28T19:05:26 < karlp> oocd just helps configured the interface hardware that collects it
2017-09-28T19:05:46 < karlp> it talks to debug hardware remember, it's be like asking if jlinkgbdserver had manchester decoding.
2017-09-28T19:06:23 < karlp> https://github.com/blacksphere/blackmagic/blob/master/src/platforms/stm32/traceswo.c
2017-09-28T19:06:42 < dongs> https://github.com/blacksphere/blackmagic/blob/master/src/platforms/stm32/traceswo.c
2017-09-28T19:06:47 < dongs> err
2017-09-28T19:06:48 < dongs> haha
2017-09-28T19:08:02 < dongs> err what, they're doing decode in the ISR?
2017-09-28T19:08:07 < dongs> what speed do they support for that to work
2017-09-28T19:08:44 < PaulFertser> It's not openocd not decoding manchester. It's stlink not decoding manchester. I think with jlink it'll work with openocd too, if jlink supports it.
2017-09-28T19:12:15 < PaulFertser> So yes, what karlp said.
2017-09-28T19:30:50 < Laurenceb> The server may be unavailable or is refusing SMTP connections. 
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2017-09-28T19:48:46 < dongs> wtfffff
2017-09-28T19:49:04 < dongs> i got a *negative* offset in timer counts
2017-09-28T19:51:54 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/RQrmtKQ.png
2017-09-28T19:52:05 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg9mKVMbp0I
2017-09-28T19:52:34 < dongs> tho this might be leftovers of previous buffer
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2017-09-28T20:07:27 < dongs> wow
2017-09-28T20:07:31 < dongs> memset is fucking slow
2017-09-28T20:07:34 < dongs> wtf
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2017-09-28T20:08:18 < dongs> 427us to memset 1024*16bit
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2017-09-28T20:34:18 < upgrdman> wtf. just noticed on an old-but-still-in-production pcb, we have test points like "TP9" etc but its just one leg of a PTH resistor. like its not a separate components or a via... it just one end of a resistor. they even took the time to bend that leg into a    _n     shape so you can clip on it easier.
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2017-09-28T21:16:26 < kakimir> es120 screw driver. any good?
2017-09-28T21:16:51 < kakimir> I have been looking for some inexpensive solid screw driver
2017-09-28T21:18:45 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXnhf4ezB9U actually related to stm32
2017-09-28T21:19:40 < kakimir> especially for those small screws that a cordless drill is way too much
2017-09-28T21:22:28 < jadew> what I'd want is a programmable torque wrench
2017-09-28T21:23:03 < kakimir> programable meaning what exactly?
2017-09-28T21:23:12 < kakimir> you have adjustable ones
2017-09-28T21:23:29 < jadew> I could set the ammount of torque at which it gives up
2017-09-28T21:23:59 < kakimir> what torque wrench you mean?
2017-09-28T21:24:03 < kakimir> pic pls
2017-09-28T21:24:22 < jadew> http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-1jswzl/products/90/images/1019/CT_SMA4__56891.1449498364.500.659.png?c=2
2017-09-28T21:24:25 < jadew> like that
2017-09-28T21:25:40 < kakimir> so adjustable click is not enought but there needs to be stm32?
2017-09-28T21:26:09 < jadew> I guess it would be, I didn't know there were adjustable ones
2017-09-28T21:26:59 < upgrdman> ya the normal click/yield kind seems fine to mee
2017-09-28T21:27:30 < upgrdman> but i've seen digital ones. prolly super expensive, and used for automated documentation
2017-09-28T21:28:52 < upgrdman> so you can "prove" that a bolt was torque to spec. prolly for medical/aviation/etc use
2017-09-28T21:29:40 < kakimir> you don't even build a car engine in the factory without digital interface to your torque wrench
2017-09-28T21:36:09 < jadew> upgrdman, yeah, that's why I was hoping for an adjustable (and cheap) one, because all torque wrenches are expensive
2017-09-28T21:36:36 < jadew> and having a different one for different torques gets expensive fast
2017-09-28T21:36:47 < kakimir> things cost but you can be price aware
2017-09-28T21:37:18 < kakimir> and pay what a good thing actually cost and not more
2017-09-28T21:37:32 < jadew> I'd like to pay less
2017-09-28T21:38:32 < kakimir> I would buy torque wrench only if really required
2017-09-28T21:39:08 < kakimir> not because engineer has said torque for every bolt in the whatever apparatus
2017-09-28T21:39:52 < kakimir> I made once my friend to buy a torque wrench for turning wheel nuts to his car
2017-09-28T21:40:05 < kakimir> now I know better
2017-09-28T21:40:42 < upgrdman> jadew, harbor frieght in the usa selling cheap chinese torque wrenches. adjustaqble. the one i use for my lug nuts was under $20 iirc.
2017-09-28T21:41:29 < upgrdman> mm ya: https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&order=EAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&q=torque+wrench
2017-09-28T21:41:31 < jadew> thanks, I'll see if I can find something like that on ebay
2017-09-28T21:41:47 < kakimir> jeez... one he bought is 49eur
2017-09-28T21:42:22 < kakimir> "precision model"
2017-09-28T21:53:21 < englishman> i dont think ive ever seen a non adjustable torque wrench
2017-09-28T21:53:34 < englishman> kakimir: wtf
2017-09-28T21:53:38 < englishman> always torque your wheel nutz
2017-09-28T21:53:58 < jadew> englishman, all the SMA torque wrenches I've seen are fixed torque
2017-09-28T21:54:05 < englishman> why would you risk your death and the deaths of all others around you over a $50 tool
2017-09-28T21:54:20 < englishman> oh yeah those
2017-09-28T21:54:25 < kakimir> I torque all the way
2017-09-28T21:54:25 < englishman> those are pretty niche tho
2017-09-28T21:54:41 < kakimir> until I feel its 1) not going any more 2) giving in
2017-09-28T21:55:06 < Steffanx> Stop right before it snaps.
2017-09-28T21:55:23 < kakimir> and when your wheel is coming off you feel it for a while before englishman 
2017-09-28T21:55:34 < upgrdman> torque to yield
2017-09-28T21:55:34 < englishman> so tight it gets loose again
2017-09-28T21:56:51 < kakimir> I tighten until bolt cold welds
2017-09-28T21:56:55 < Steffanx> I once had that. All the bolts on the left side of my car were loose.. still dont believe that someone didnt tamper with them
2017-09-28T21:57:08 < englishman> well
2017-09-28T21:57:10 < englishman> thats exactly
2017-09-28T21:57:12 < englishman> what happened
2017-09-28T21:57:15 < englishman> someone didnt tamper with them
2017-09-28T21:57:23 < englishman> but in this case tamper = properly torque
2017-09-28T21:57:42 < Steffanx> i did that ;)
2017-09-28T21:57:55 < englishman> kakimir i am still waiting on that translation
2017-09-28T21:57:56 < Steffanx> but might not have been "properly", who knows
2017-09-28T21:58:26 < Steffanx> dont give a shit anyway, you'll feel it well enough. You would have to be damn stupid to not stop to check what's going on.
2017-09-28T21:58:36 < kakimir> englishman: I don't know a word for it
2017-09-28T21:58:47 < kakimir> there might be a word
2017-09-28T21:58:49 < englishman> can you invent or piece together a word for it
2017-09-28T21:59:26 < kakimir> can you repeat the question
2017-09-28T22:00:49 < englishman> 2:41 PM <englishman> what's the word for the feeling of anticipation and anxiety you have when there is meat in the smoker for 14+ hours and you havent looked at it and you dont know if its going to turn out awesome or burned to a crisp, like schrödinger's brisket kind of situation
2017-09-28T22:01:05 < upgrdman> lol
2017-09-28T22:01:21 < upgrdman> anxious?
2017-09-28T22:01:22 < Steffanx> So how was it englishman? No pics?!
2017-09-28T22:01:37 < upgrdman> yes, we want to see your meat
2017-09-28T22:01:48 < Steffanx> upgrdman means a different kint of meat, he is into that.
2017-09-28T22:01:55 < upgrdman> >_>
2017-09-28T22:02:12 < englishman> not mine but i will follow his recipe https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RZqqBS80/image.png
2017-09-28T22:02:24 < Steffanx>  \o/
2017-09-28T22:02:36 < upgrdman> \o/ indeed
2017-09-28T22:02:40 < Steffanx> Excellent meat for the pool party
2017-09-28T22:02:48 < englishman> 16 hour cook
2017-09-28T22:03:03 < upgrdman> link to his receipe?
2017-09-28T22:03:27 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVOh8430oCs
2017-09-28T22:04:17 < upgrdman> that guy looks like he enjoys a load of meat in his mouth
2017-09-28T22:04:32 < Steffanx> Real yankee.
2017-09-28T22:04:36 < upgrdman> a hot load
2017-09-28T22:04:44 < englishman> decades of meat eating experience
2017-09-28T22:06:09 < Steffanx> i feel sorry for PaulFertser :P
2017-09-28T22:06:24 < kakimir> englishman: jännittää(neutral for being nervous), stressata(stress about)
2017-09-28T22:06:43 < kakimir> jännittää means also excitenment
2017-09-28T22:06:53 < englishman> perfect word
2017-09-28T22:06:56 < englishman> what about the meat
2017-09-28T22:07:17 < englishman> jännittäästressataliha
2017-09-28T22:07:36 < kakimir> stressata is negative
2017-09-28T22:07:37 < Steffanx> needs more ä and n
2017-09-28T22:07:51 < englishman> jännittäästressatanaudanrintaliha
2017-09-28T22:08:17 < upgrdman> gazuntite
2017-09-28T22:08:24 < Steffanx> Google actually knows how to seperate those words :D
2017-09-28T22:08:45 < upgrdman> needs moar umlauts
2017-09-28T22:10:25 < englishman> jännittäästressataruoanlaittonaudanrintaliha
2017-09-28T22:12:21 < englishman> thank you for the finnish lesson kaks
2017-09-28T22:13:04 < kakimir> don't use stressata
2017-09-28T22:13:32 < kakimir> oh you are talking about smoke meat
2017-09-28T22:13:50 < kakimir> sorry I was on the phone
2017-09-28T22:13:52 < zyp> taskumatti
2017-09-28T22:16:40 < kakimir> jännittää ruoanlaittoa savustetusta naudanrintalihasta
2017-09-28T22:17:34 < Steffanx> kyllä
2017-09-28T22:17:52 < zyp> tervetuloa
2017-09-28T22:18:14 < Steffanx> on tilaa
2017-09-28T22:18:56 < qyx> are you sure this language is speakable?
2017-09-28T22:19:51 < kakimir> being excited about cooking using smoked cow brisket
2017-09-28T22:20:23 < Steffanx> i wouldnt even know what .sk language looks like qyx
2017-09-28T22:20:34 < kakimir> minua jännittää päästä tekemään ruokaa savustetusta naudanrintalihasta
2017-09-28T22:20:41 < zyp> I know some Steffanx language
2017-09-28T22:20:49 < zyp> «let op, drempels»
2017-09-28T22:21:14 < Steffanx>  \o/ 
2017-09-28T22:21:32 < qyx> Steffanx: something between czech, ukrainian and russian
2017-09-28T22:21:34 < kakimir> I'm excited to get to cook food using smoked cow brisket
2017-09-28T22:21:43 < qyx> but no such long words
2017-09-28T22:22:10 < Steffanx> kakimir, but a single word is nicer. You must have such word for this specific situation
2017-09-28T22:22:18 < Steffanx> You guys have such words
2017-09-28T22:23:24 < kakimir> oh
2017-09-28T22:23:27 < kakimir> single word
2017-09-28T22:23:57 < Steffanx> uh superbia?
2017-09-28T22:23:58 < kakimir> savustetunnaudanrintalihanruoaksivalmistusjännitys
2017-09-28T22:24:09 < kakimir> there
2017-09-28T22:24:16 < Steffanx> That's not a real word
2017-09-28T22:25:08 < kakimir> actually it is
2017-09-28T22:25:58 < kakimir> I don't know
2017-09-28T22:26:03 < Steffanx> No, that's just Laurenceb code. All spaces removed.
2017-09-28T22:26:15 < kakimir> englishman: your word has been delivered above
2017-09-28T22:26:53 < englishman> thank you 
2017-09-28T22:27:15 < englishman> i will use this in my day to day parlance
2017-09-28T22:28:26 < Steffanx> better enter in google translate and listen to it a few 100 times
2017-09-28T22:28:33 < kakimir> savustetun = smoked, naudanrintalihan = cow's brisket, ruoaksivalmistus = to prepaire for food, jännitys = excitenment
2017-09-28T22:30:08 < kakimir> wow google's speech robot has improved
2017-09-28T22:30:59 < kakimir> it scares me it has different speeds to read it
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2017-09-28T22:34:05 < kakimir> tommorow google talks to you like a person
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2017-09-28T23:05:20 < dale6998> hey, has anyone heard of this from OpenOCD?
2017-09-28T23:05:28 < dale6998> undefined debug reason 7 - target needs reset
2017-09-28T23:06:41 < zyp> no, but it seems pretty obvious, have you tried resetting the target?
2017-09-28T23:06:51 < dale6998> yes...that does nothing
2017-09-28T23:07:05 < dale6998> with a hardware reset on the PCB
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2017-09-28T23:07:18 < upgrdman> dale6998, is your firmware reassigning the swd pins?
2017-09-28T23:07:30 < dale6998> this is a blank out of the tape STM32
2017-09-28T23:07:36 < upgrdman> i mean, reusing those pins for non-swd stuff
2017-09-28T23:07:38 < upgrdman> o ok
2017-09-28T23:07:40 < dale6998> hasn't been flashed or anythign before
2017-09-28T23:08:10 < upgrdman> try the official stlink utility. can it connect and see the chip?
2017-09-28T23:08:24 < upgrdman> if not, probably a wire/pcb/design problem.
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2017-09-28T23:09:09 < dale6998> ok...what do you guys use for a pullup on the reset line?
2017-09-28T23:09:15 < dale6998> 4.7k ok?
2017-09-28T23:09:23 < upgrdman> i dont use a pullup
2017-09-28T23:09:30 < upgrdman> but that should be fine
2017-09-28T23:11:59 < dale6998> alright..taking that off now
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2017-09-28T23:13:10 < zyp> internal pullup is fine
2017-09-28T23:13:23 < dale6998> ah, this didn't do it either...I've got the 100nF caps on all the VCC pins, a 4.7uF cap somewhere and a 4.7uF cap on the VCAP1 line.
2017-09-28T23:13:43 < dale6998> THen i'm running out nRST, SWDIO and SWCLK to an ST_Link V2
2017-09-28T23:13:46 < upgrdman> dale6998, seriously, try the official stlink utility.
2017-09-28T23:13:51 < Thorn> a blank stm32 will be in double fault lockup
2017-09-28T23:14:03 < Thorn> openocd doesn't like that iirc
2017-09-28T23:14:23 < upgrdman> dale6998, and GND, right?
2017-09-28T23:14:30 < Steffanx> What commands do you run dale6998?
2017-09-28T23:14:32 < dale6998> yes, GND as well
2017-09-28T23:14:36 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-28T23:14:45 < dale6998> openocd -f config.cfg
2017-09-28T23:14:52 < Steffanx> no gdb yet?
2017-09-28T23:14:57 < upgrdman> may need VDD as well, not sure of oocd does vdd sensing
2017-09-28T23:15:01 < dale6998> it's all good until gdb get's in the mix
2017-09-28T23:15:12 < Steffanx> are you using arm-none-eabi-gdb or gdb?
2017-09-28T23:15:14 < dale6998> i'm also bringng in VDD, sorry
2017-09-28T23:15:19 < dale6998> yes, arm-none-eabi-gbd
2017-09-28T23:15:22 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-28T23:15:38 < Steffanx> and you're version of openocd is like 0.10.0?
2017-09-28T23:15:40 < Steffanx> *your
2017-09-28T23:15:43 < upgrdman> f0? f4?
2017-09-28T23:15:44 < karlp> "-f config.cfg"# isn't very enlightening.
2017-09-28T23:15:54 < karlp> do you have a reset config that is appropriate for your wiring?
2017-09-28T23:16:08 < dale6998> then when I run arm-none-eabi-gdb that's when opencd sends that error
2017-09-28T23:16:18 < dale6998> karlp: hang on on second...i'll get that to you:
2017-09-28T23:16:23 < dale6998> source [find interface/stlink-v2.cfg]
2017-09-28T23:16:23 < dale6998> transport select hla_swd
2017-09-28T23:16:23 < dale6998> source [find target/stm32f4x.cfg]
2017-09-28T23:16:23 < dale6998> reset_config none
2017-09-28T23:16:25 < upgrdman> dale6998, which chip. f0?
2017-09-28T23:16:27 < upgrdman> f4
2017-09-28T23:16:28 < dale6998> f4
2017-09-28T23:17:07 < upgrdman> dale6998, i use this with my f4 and it works: 
2017-09-28T23:17:08 < upgrdman> openocd -f board/st_nucleo_f4.cfg -c "program firmware.elf verify reset exit"
2017-09-28T23:17:25 < karlp> "reset_config none" => don't attempt to use the reset pin you wired up...
2017-09-28T23:18:07 < upgrdman> karlp, but should still work on a new chip that isnt fucking with swd pins
2017-09-28T23:18:56 < upgrdman> and for debugging my f4 i use: openocd -f board/st_nucleo_f4.cfg -c "init" -c "reset halt" -c "arm semihosting enable"               and in another window:  arm-none-eabi-gdb -silent -ex "target extended-remote localhost:3333" -ex "monitor reset halt" -ex "break main" -ex "continue" firmware.elf
2017-09-28T23:19:22 < dale6998> wow
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2017-09-28T23:19:58 < Steffanx> and be sure your openocd version is a bit up to date.
2017-09-28T23:21:26 < dale6998> i'm using the 0.10.0+dev-00146
2017-09-28T23:21:41 < upgrdman> dale6998, any luck with my commands?
2017-09-28T23:22:43 < dale6998> well, not really...that gives this:
2017-09-28T23:23:00 < dale6998> Error: open failed
2017-09-28T23:23:04 < dale6998> in procedure 'init'
2017-09-28T23:23:09 < dale6998> in procedure 'ocd_bouncer'
2017-09-28T23:23:17 < dale6998> like, it isn't seeing hte programmer
2017-09-28T23:23:22 < karlp> is it actually powered? is it actually wired properly?
2017-09-28T23:23:25 < upgrdman> im using stlinkv2
2017-09-28T23:23:36 < dale6998> i'm using a stlinkv2 clone
2017-09-28T23:23:39 < upgrdman> or v2.1 or whatever its called now
2017-09-28T23:23:43 < upgrdman> ok
2017-09-28T23:23:49 < dale6998> yeah, it's got power...i see the light on my little pcb coming on
2017-09-28T23:23:56 < dale6998> and i see 3.3V everywhere it's supposed to be with a meter
2017-09-28T23:24:02 < upgrdman> at this point, really, try the official stm utility
2017-09-28T23:24:20 < dale6998> ok
2017-09-28T23:24:25 < karlp> share an actual log of openocd too.
2017-09-28T23:24:30 < karlp> not just "shit don't work yo"
2017-09-28T23:25:05 < dale6998> ok, let me see here....
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2017-09-28T23:25:16 < dale6998> stlink is able to see the chip and read all the memory
2017-09-28T23:25:23 < dale6998> so, that's good
2017-09-28T23:26:08 < upgrdman> dale6998, try openocd again with verbose output, and pastebin it, and ping PaulFertser
2017-09-28T23:26:48 < upgrdman> or try #openocd if paul is asleep
2017-09-28T23:27:34 < dale6998> ok
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2017-09-28T23:32:32 < dale6998> ok, here's the pastebin of OpenOCD
2017-09-28T23:32:49 < dale6998> https://ptpb.pw/mzlB
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2017-09-28T23:34:06 < dale6998_> is paul on here?
2017-09-28T23:34:14 < upgrdman> yes but prolly asleep
2017-09-28T23:37:25 < dale6998_> and when you say ping him, how do you mean?  what should i ask him?
2017-09-28T23:37:50 < upgrdman> type his username, ask for help and give him your link.
2017-09-28T23:38:16 < upgrdman> but he's prolly sleeping now. try #openocd
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2017-09-28T23:39:44 < karlp> your gdb looks busted.
2017-09-28T23:39:48 < karlp> where did you get it from again?
2017-09-28T23:39:58 < karlp> openocd correctly connects.
2017-09-28T23:40:21 < karlp> you should try actually using a reset config that matches your hardware if you want good reset performance thouhg
2017-09-28T23:40:47 < karlp> you can see that oocd properly probes the target and all.
2017-09-28T23:41:36 < dale6998_> ok, so, i only have the reset line tied to the pin on the stlink programmer...after talking to you, i've since removed the external resistor and filter cap
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2017-09-28T23:45:23 < dale6998_> karlp: what shoudl i have there for a resett config?
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2017-09-28T23:54:03 < englishman> 4:18 PM <upgrdman> and for debugging my f4 i use: openocd -f board/st_nucleo_f4.cfg -c "init" -c "reset halt" -c "arm semihosting enable"              and in another window:  arm-none-eabi-gdb -silent -ex "target extended-remote localhost:3333" -ex "monitor reset halt" -ex "break main" -ex "continue" firmware.elf
2017-09-28T23:54:05 < englishman> loll
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2017-09-29T00:06:21 < upgrdman> englishman, :)
2017-09-29T00:06:53 < upgrdman> i use an ide, but those are from my makefile
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2017-09-29T00:41:00 < Steffanx> The first one to make fun of oss can join Laurenceb in the naughty corner!
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2017-09-29T01:53:34 < ohsix> Laurenceb: heh that paper on asians & math implicit racistwhatever junk actually looks decent
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2017-09-29T02:47:01 < ohsix> nice 12:00 < Laurenceb_> I'm fucked
2017-09-29T02:47:01 < ohsix> 12:00 < Steffanx>  Who was the lucky guy?
2017-09-29T02:49:51 < ohsix> old guy in lab is setting up someones computer and they're picking which of the 30 pieces of garbage among 100 in this 'all in one installer' thing to put on it, immediately driving it into the garbage
2017-09-29T02:50:14 < tpw_rules> is ninite still around
2017-09-29T03:21:35 < ohsix> karlp: can't copy a function not externally visible!!11
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2017-09-29T03:51:01 < jadew> any ideas if the edge cuts layer has to contain contious lines? as in... is there a problem if they don't start precisely where the other one ends?
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2017-09-29T04:26:55 < tpw_rules> your pcb house might not be able to make it
2017-09-29T04:30:41 < stvn> pump it up
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2017-09-29T04:32:57 < ohsix> wat do you search for when you just want this bit https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1kgNwPXXXXXbXXVXXq6xXFXXXI/Alta-QualitySilver-1-8-3-5mm-4-pole-3-anillo-4-way-Audio-Video-TRRS-mini.jpg
2017-09-29T04:33:03 < ohsix> trrs is not it
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2017-09-29T04:46:13 < upgrdman> ohsix, how is that NOT trrs?
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2017-09-29T04:58:46 < jadew> I just realized I have 20 email accounts
2017-09-29T04:59:06 < jadew> and those are just the ones that I have set up in thunderbird and that I use regularly
2017-09-29T04:59:10 < jadew> there are more...
2017-09-29T05:00:08 < jadew> two are for work tho
2017-09-29T05:00:20 < stvn> ty
2017-09-29T05:00:32 < stvn> that was a 10/10 blog
2017-09-29T05:00:50 < jadew> don't forget to subscribe
2017-09-29T05:03:59 < dongs> what
2017-09-29T05:04:05 < dongs> why teh fuck would you need 20 emails
2017-09-29T05:04:17 < dongs> to give out to 20 different girlfriends?
2017-09-29T05:04:35 < jadew> that's what I was wondering, if it's just me or if everyone has more addresses
2017-09-29T05:04:37 < stvn> or boyfriends
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2017-09-29T05:04:43 < stvn> depending on the scam right
2017-09-29T05:04:48 < dongs> judew, i can barely manage two
2017-09-29T05:04:49 < jadew> well, I have one for shopping, one for food, one for games
2017-09-29T05:05:04 < stvn> nice
2017-09-29T05:05:08 < stvn> i have 1 for pumping
2017-09-29T05:05:11 < jadew> one for shitty services, one for forums, one for code related stuff
2017-09-29T05:05:13 < dongs> did you know? if you use google/gaymail type shit, you can do yourname+faggot@gmail/corp
2017-09-29T05:05:13 < stvn> stvn@dr.com iirc
2017-09-29T05:05:25 < dongs> +faggot being whatever else you want
2017-09-29T05:05:41 < jadew> didn't know about the +
2017-09-29T05:05:47 < jadew> I knew about the .
2017-09-29T05:05:57 < jadew> you can put the dot anywhere and it's the same
2017-09-29T05:06:03 < dongs> right, thats boring tho
2017-09-29T05:06:06 < jadew> yeah
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2017-09-29T05:11:24 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/UCukY
2017-09-29T05:11:26 < Rob235> woo
2017-09-29T05:11:58 < Rob235> a lot of formatting to do still but preview is starting to work
2017-09-29T05:12:53 < dongs> lol macintosh
2017-09-29T05:13:14 < dongs> apple file picker is the grossest thing ever right after lunix file picker
2017-09-29T05:13:19 < dongs> completely unusable for any actual work
2017-09-29T05:13:28 < dongs> wanna type a path to something you KNOW? good luck!
2017-09-29T05:13:34 < dongs> wanna use keyboard to select files? good luck!
2017-09-29T05:13:47 < dongs> wanna actually do something other than taking steve's shriveeld cock up your ass? good luck!
2017-09-29T05:13:56 < Rob235> the fact that you are hating on mac and not my site shows me how much you love it.
2017-09-29T05:14:04 < Rob235> you wuv it dongs
2017-09-29T05:14:17 < Rob235> you really wuv it
2017-09-29T05:14:21 < Rob235> ok im done
2017-09-29T05:15:30 < tpw_rules> at least they do the correct thing when you drag a file into it
2017-09-29T05:16:26 < dongs> apple trash?
2017-09-29T05:16:36 < tpw_rules> yup
2017-09-29T05:16:48 < dongs> sounds liek an awful workaround for unusable ux
2017-09-29T05:17:06 < tpw_rules> sounds like literally the worst misfeature windows ever had
2017-09-29T05:17:17 < tpw_rules> how could that ever be the thing you wanted to do
2017-09-29T05:17:42 < dongs> tbh i';ve never dragged a file into file picker because you know.. it makes no fucking sense
2017-09-29T05:17:59 < tpw_rules> what if you have a file and want it to be picked
2017-09-29T05:17:59 < dongs> if you have a file location already open somewhere in another window, dragging it INTO THE APP is what makes sense to me
2017-09-29T05:18:05 < Rob235> I might add a drag and drop box for choosing a file anyway
2017-09-29T05:19:22 < tpw_rules> it's okay that you can't accept steve's greatness
2017-09-29T05:19:32 < tpw_rules> there are others who agree with you
2017-09-29T05:20:16 < dongs> does EXTI have any kinda oneshot mode where it will only trigger on first edge and never again until told
2017-09-29T05:20:31 < tpw_rules> you could turn it off in the handler
2017-09-29T05:20:38 < dongs> i did, it doesnt get done fast enough
2017-09-29T05:21:02 < tpw_rules> turn it off then clear the pending bit?
2017-09-29T05:21:59 < tpw_rules> EXTI_ClearITPendingBit apparently
2017-09-29T05:22:04 < tpw_rules> in HAL
2017-09-29T05:22:09 < tpw_rules> idk what reg
2017-09-29T05:22:39 < dongs> yeah i know those.
2017-09-29T05:22:42 < tpw_rules> or you would clear the pending bit right before turning it back on
2017-09-29T05:22:45 < tpw_rules> how is it not working
2017-09-29T05:22:53 < dongs> getting a second hit again
2017-09-29T05:23:09 < tpw_rules> like the interrupt is re-going?
2017-09-29T05:23:27 < dongs> yeha
2017-09-29T05:23:35 < tpw_rules> prolly cause you're not using a mac
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2017-09-29T05:45:07 < dongs> asdf
2017-09-29T05:45:58 < jadew> is that your password?
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2017-09-29T05:46:16 < dongs> no its me raging at 1mhz stuff not giving me lots of time to process it
2017-09-29T05:52:47 < jadew> watching office space now
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2017-09-29T05:52:57 < dongs> next you'll admit to using a mac
2017-09-29T05:53:07 < jadew> it's better now than when I saw it the first time
2017-09-29T05:53:19 < jadew> I have a mac
2017-09-29T05:53:24 < jadew> it's running linux
2017-09-29T05:53:32 < dongs> what a fuckign waste.
2017-09-29T05:54:00 < jadew> I needed it to write some iPhone apps a couple of years back, now I use it as a server
2017-09-29T05:54:01 < tpw_rules> > using a not posix compliant operating system
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2017-09-29T06:20:01 < aandrew> http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/610ec648-b348-423a-bd3c-04dc701b2985
2017-09-29T06:26:34 < jadew> heavily soiled lol
2017-09-29T06:27:03 < dongs> only 3000GBP?
2017-09-29T06:27:04 < dongs> what the shit
2017-09-29T06:27:11 < dongs> similar crap in japan is 3x that
2017-09-29T06:27:40 < jadew> I wouldn't mind one
2017-09-29T06:28:34 < dongs> we all know judewife doesn't put out, but you dont haev to mention that everyday on irc
2017-09-29T06:28:59 < jadew> but I'd have to rent it a place
2017-09-29T06:29:20 < stvn> hello welcome!
2017-09-29T06:29:29 < englishman> stvn show us your dakimakura
2017-09-29T06:30:27 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/kQIjnLX.jpg
2017-09-29T06:30:58 < stvn> since 99.7% of my tools are at the factory
2017-09-29T06:42:07 < stvn> pity all the deutschmarks will go to raising immigrants, later to become sucide bombers
2017-09-29T06:45:29 < dongs> hmm. im not getting fallign edge captures in slavemode 
2017-09-29T06:45:32 < dongs> wtaf
2017-09-29T06:57:19 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/142507597759 lol
2017-09-29T07:00:09 < stvn> hmmm let me 
2017-09-29T07:00:28 < stvn> how did you even find this?
2017-09-29T07:02:01 < jadew> that's how he shops, he orders everything by price (descendant) and picks from the top
2017-09-29T07:04:39 < dongs> About 7 results (0.42 seconds) 
2017-09-29T07:04:40 < dongs> sigh
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2017-09-29T07:06:16 < stvn> autism collection
2017-09-29T07:06:16 < stvn> http://www.ebay.com/itm/272839739515
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2017-09-29T07:07:25 < stvn> best part is 90% of it is garbage that never gained traction in any market
2017-09-29T07:08:06 < jadew> I never understood collections
2017-09-29T07:08:16 < stvn> its a mental illness 
2017-09-29T07:08:56 < stvn> flavoured with autistic dreams
2017-09-29T07:10:02 < stvn> basically told the biggest video game autistic collector i know he was insane
2017-09-29T07:10:45 < englishman> more autism http://www.ebay.com/itm/272835825797
2017-09-29T07:11:15 < jadew> hah
2017-09-29T07:11:51 < stvn> MAKERS
2017-09-29T07:14:23 < stvn> http://www.ebay.com/itm/302457888901
2017-09-29T07:14:58 < jadew> that's gonna show up in my feed
2017-09-29T07:15:30 < stvn> did you hear about this true original pumper https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/29/pneumatic_judge/
2017-09-29T07:16:34 < stvn> A key witness in the trial has been former court reporter Lisa Foster. In giving testimony, she "wiped away tears as she described tracing an unfamiliar 'sh-sh' in the courtroom to her boss".
2017-09-29T07:16:35 < dongs> lol @ 6.99 penis pump
2017-09-29T07:17:31 < stvn> She continued: "The grandfather was getting real teary-eyed, and the judge was up there pumping on that pump. It was sickening."
2017-09-29T07:17:35 < stvn> this is hilarious
2017-09-29T07:17:43 < dongs> lol
2017-09-29T07:17:51 < dongs> just got to that part
2017-09-29T07:18:54 < jadew> me too
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2017-09-29T07:55:57 < englishman> hmm, theres going to be a snow crash tv show
2017-09-29T07:56:48 < dongs> https://github.com/blacksphere/blackmagic/blob/master/src/platforms/stm32/traceswo.c i dont understand how they're getting a value from CCR2 here
2017-09-29T07:56:55 < dongs> is SWO connected to TWO pins on bmp or something?
2017-09-29T07:57:48 < dongs> way to go , publish faggot eagle? or something files for bmp and no pdf
2017-09-29T07:57:59 < dongs> oh not even eagle
2017-09-29T07:58:01 < dongs> fucking geda
2017-09-29T07:58:35 < ohsix>  https://mega.nz/#F!1hwHCRAQ!1FVT5NtXrnKTOdG-soDrRg ida 7
2017-09-29T07:59:03 < ohsix> mac and windows :\
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2017-09-29T08:00:23 < dongs> hmm its connected to CH2
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2017-09-29T08:08:23 < ohsix> Thorn: heh you shouldn't have posted that excerpt, you can find stuff :\
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2017-09-29T08:19:10 < dongs> oh wuuuuuuuuuuuuut
2017-09-29T08:19:13 < dongs> there's a bug in LL shit?
2017-09-29T08:19:19 < ohsix> tpw_rules: yea it is, and that's what it was
2017-09-29T08:19:24 < dongs> Select the active input for TIMx_CCR2: write the CC2S bits to 10 in the TIMx_CCMR1
2017-09-29T08:19:27 < dongs> register (TI1 selected).
2017-09-29T08:19:43 < dongs> but no matter what i do, it writes 01 in there
2017-09-29T08:21:06 < ohsix> isn't this just getting nvic to say not to acknowledge that slot again by setting the priority? 19:20 < dongs> does EXTI have any kinda oneshot mode where it will only trigger on first edge and never again until told
2017-09-29T08:24:21 < ohsix> hey theres' the bottom of the buffer
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2017-09-29T09:05:37 < Thorn> ohsix: you mean patent? it was some random shit from I don't know where
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2017-09-29T09:41:56 < jadew> http://img.youtube.com/vi/4ab2ZeZ-krY/maxresdefault.jpg
2017-09-29T09:42:14 < dongs> is that mr.six
2017-09-29T09:43:31 < Steffanx> ohsix: we are known trolls, but sharing warez is still not allowed in freenode..
2017-09-29T09:43:43 < Steffanx> ( and i wouldnt even trust a hacked ida)
2017-09-29T09:44:25 < jadew> well, you can alwyas hack it yourself
2017-09-29T09:44:33  * dongs just received my legal licensed ida 7.0 last week
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2017-09-29T10:06:19 < zyp> disassemble all the things
2017-09-29T10:06:40 < zyp> fucking ferry shit
2017-09-29T10:06:46 < zyp> missed ferry by a minute
2017-09-29T10:08:36 < Steffanx> lol, no blame the ferry..
2017-09-29T10:10:48 < zyp> well, yeah
2017-09-29T10:11:10 < zyp> if they had an undersea tunnel here or something instead I wouldn't have had to wait for the next ferry, would I?
2017-09-29T10:11:24 < Steffanx> What will that cost you? 1 hour extra with us? :D
2017-09-29T10:12:45 < zyp> hmm, actually, they will build an undersea tunnel here, plans were approved earlier this year
2017-09-29T10:12:56 < Steffanx> They should have removed all the water from norway, like we partially did in dutchland
2017-09-29T10:13:11 < Steffanx> *should remove
2017-09-29T10:13:13 < zyp> but they haven't started yet, so it won't open for another eight years, at least :p
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2017-09-29T10:21:53 < Steffanx> How often does such ferry go zyp?
2017-09-29T10:23:52 < zyp> apparently every 30 minutes at this hour, because the next is about to arrive now
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2017-09-29T10:34:26 < jadew> do PCB manufacturers complain about high number of vias?
2017-09-29T10:34:56 < jadew> (not sure if my number qualifies as a high number to begin with)
2017-09-29T10:35:26 < jadew> I have 370 vias on a 20cm x 4cm board
2017-09-29T10:38:44 < dongs> pic?
2017-09-29T10:38:50 < dongs> dsoesnt sound like a lot anyway
2017-09-29T10:38:54 < dongs> for 20cm
2017-09-29T10:39:20 < dongs> if your board makes them go through several drills per sheet, they will hate it
2017-09-29T10:39:49 < jadew> nah, single size holes
2017-09-29T10:40:06 < dongs> no i mean
2017-09-29T10:40:15 < jadew> ah, you mean if they break the bits?
2017-09-29T10:40:16 < dongs> go through several drillbits as in, shit wearing them out
2017-09-29T10:40:17 < dongs> yeah
2017-09-29T10:40:51 < jadew> well, I guess we'll see if they complain
2017-09-29T10:42:37 < dongs> 4.6 vias/cm^2 that doesnt sound a lot at all
2017-09-29T10:43:16 < jadew> good to know, thanks
2017-09-29T10:45:53 < dongs> ive got 450 vias in 115x75mm board (just random one i had open in altidumb) and nobody complained. basically if you make a grid with like 3mm pitch and fill entire board then there's some possibility to rage
2017-09-29T10:46:32 < invzim> jadew: should depend a bit on drill size
2017-09-29T10:46:51 < jadew> .4mm
2017-09-29T10:47:11 < invzim> ianapcbmanufacturer
2017-09-29T10:47:18 < invzim> but I think those last a long time
2017-09-29T10:47:40 < dongs> its fine
2017-09-29T10:47:41 < invzim> the 0.2mm has a really short life
2017-09-29T10:50:02 < invzim> 6mil drills bits last 100 drills
2017-09-29T10:50:22 < invzim> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6_svRNJYls
2017-09-29T10:50:43 < invzim> 3:53
2017-09-29T10:51:55 < invzim> so my statement on 0.2mm is not correct
2017-09-29T10:56:27 < jadew> close tho
2017-09-29T10:56:31 < Cracki_> so why not just use pulsed laser to ablate
2017-09-29T10:58:48 < jadew> Cracki_, probably because of the heat
2017-09-29T11:00:21 < jadew> most FR-4 has shit thermal properties anyway, you start blasting it with lasers and you may start rupturing internal tracks
2017-09-29T11:03:50 < dongs> proper places do have laser via option
2017-09-29T11:03:56 < dongs> usually even more expensive than machined shit
2017-09-29T11:04:10 < jadew> what are they used for?
2017-09-29T11:04:14 < jadew> micro vias?
2017-09-29T11:04:18 < dongs> very small vias ya
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2017-09-29T11:10:40 < Cracki_> jadew, that's why pulsed laser. heat has no time to dissipate, directly vaporizes or fragments the surface
2017-09-29T11:12:00 < Cracki_> talked to someone doing their master's thesis on laser engraving for removing variable number of paint layers off a surface
2017-09-29T11:12:10 < Cracki_> for "reverse ink jet" printing
2017-09-29T11:12:49 < Cracki_> bore a certain depth to get the desired color, hole density for intensity
2017-09-29T11:12:58 < Cracki_> they used a femtosecond laser
2017-09-29T11:14:18 < jadew> so that's why lasers have that screaming sound in sci-fi movies? it's the frequency they're pulsating at, in order to vaporize the humans without harming the environment
2017-09-29T11:15:17 < Cracki_> obviouslyh
2017-09-29T11:37:50 < dongs> https://community.st.com/thread/34583-what-happened-to-arduino-star-otto haha
2017-09-29T11:43:08 < jadew> night
2017-09-29T11:43:36 < Cracki_> arduino due
2017-09-29T11:43:46 < Cracki_> atmel sam something or other
2017-09-29T11:43:52 < Steffanx> lol i like how negative clive1 is towards stm32 nowadays.
2017-09-29T11:43:54 < tomeaton17> Does anyone have experience with the boot mode config bits on the STMf04x? Must they be set with stlink or the program?
2017-09-29T11:44:02 < Steffanx> (mainly the sw part)
2017-09-29T11:44:06 < dongs> what boot mode?
2017-09-29T11:44:15 < dongs> depends which package of 04x
2017-09-29T11:44:20 < dongs> QFN has BOOT0 broken out
2017-09-29T11:44:24 < dongs> but QFP does not iirc
2017-09-29T11:44:33 < tomeaton17> No I dont mean the pins, I mean bits
2017-09-29T11:44:40 < dongs> so the option bytes?
2017-09-29T11:44:46 < tomeaton17> yeah
2017-09-29T11:45:28 < tomeaton17> It has this empty check thing aswell
2017-09-29T11:46:22 < dongs> same as flash writes basically
2017-09-29T11:46:26 < dongs> just diferent unlock codes
2017-09-29T11:46:32 < dongs> both stdperiph and hal have code for that stuff.
2017-09-29T11:47:05 < tomeaton17> Ok, can openocd set them aswell?
2017-09-29T11:47:26 < dongs> they're literally a separate flash page as far as code is concerned so..
2017-09-29T11:47:40 < dongs> if openocd can write to FLASH->whatever registers then yes, it can set them
2017-09-29T11:48:40 < tomeaton17> hmm it looks like it can, I will give it a go when I get the chip. Thanks
2017-09-29T11:49:09 < dongs> i'm almost certain stlink utility can set those things
2017-09-29T11:49:16 < dongs> with a nice gui, too
2017-09-29T11:49:55 < tomeaton17> Are they non volatile
2017-09-29T11:50:04 < dongs> yes, they're flash
2017-09-29T11:50:10 < tomeaton17> ok
2017-09-29T12:07:36 < tomeaton17> I am struglling to understand https://i.imgur.com/5CXBcEW.png the empty check feature on the stm32f04. From reading it seems like you can only program when system memory is set as bootspace? Is this only for non SWD programming?
2017-09-29T12:09:37 < dongs> yes
2017-09-29T12:09:41 < dongs> the 042 boards I made yesterday
2017-09-29T12:09:45 < dongs> come up in BL byt defaul
2017-09-29T12:09:48 < dongs> when plugged into usb
2017-09-29T12:09:51 < dongs> even if boot0 is NOT shorted to vcc
2017-09-29T12:09:56 < dongs> that is probably that.
2017-09-29T12:10:13 < dongs> once they're flashed by DFU, i have to short boot0 to dfu them again
2017-09-29T12:10:47 < dongs> also waht the fuck is that screenshot app
2017-09-29T12:10:55 < dongs> your fonts and mouse cursor looks gross as fuck
2017-09-29T12:11:23 < dongs> is this lunix desktop or soemthign
2017-09-29T12:12:23 < tomeaton17> Ok cool
2017-09-29T12:12:30 < tomeaton17> The fonts are just what st chose
2017-09-29T12:12:41 < ohsix> http://web.cs.ucla.edu/~palsberg/paper/icse01.pdf
2017-09-29T12:12:42 < tomeaton17> And the rest is from LFN
2017-09-29T12:12:59 < dongs> there are ways to render fonts in the shittiest way possible, and lunix excels at that
2017-09-29T12:13:02 < dongs> lfn?
2017-09-29T12:13:13 < ohsix> Thorn: oh, it was a joke, doh
2017-09-29T12:13:27 < tomeaton17> dongs ask stvn
2017-09-29T12:13:33 < dongs> lunix for niggers?
2017-09-29T12:13:40 < tomeaton17> yeah
2017-09-29T12:14:27 < tomeaton17> pretty much the most popular free software in existance
2017-09-29T12:19:31 < ohsix> Steffanx: how does it feel about pre-print papers
2017-09-29T12:22:30 < ohsix> good boys rent from elsevier
2017-09-29T12:25:25 < ohsix> https://www.jlab.org/accel/eecad/pdf/050rfdesign.pdf
2017-09-29T12:33:26 < Steffanx> no clue what you're referring to
2017-09-29T12:34:06 < Steffanx> not a good morning
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2017-09-29T13:02:22 < dongs> https://community.st.com/thread/34583-what-happened-to-arduino-star-otto#comment-167964
2017-09-29T13:02:26 < dongs> haha
2017-09-29T13:06:07 < dongs> https://community.st.com/message/169903-re-note-to-st-hal-stm32cubemx-are-awesome?commentID=169903#comment-169034
2017-09-29T13:06:10 < dongs> haha
2017-09-29T13:06:52 < Steffanx> he aint wrong about the sw part
2017-09-29T13:07:03 < Steffanx> not sure how github willl help, but he aint wrong about the rest
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2017-09-29T13:08:21 < Steffanx> So dongs also move away from HAL and turned LL? 
2017-09-29T13:08:26 < Steffanx> Damn, soon all pros will do that
2017-09-29T13:08:34 < dongs> yeah, hal was fucking gross
2017-09-29T13:08:47 < dongs> but autogenerated cube shit is gross too, so i just started a new porject with ll only
2017-09-29T13:08:52 < dongs> without autogenerated wank
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2017-09-29T13:11:56 < dongs> <cliveone>  Today there enough pieces of example code that any half-wit can stitch together a proof of concept using cut-n-paste and google. There a countries with whole software industries based around zero knowledge code development.
2017-09-29T13:12:01 < dongs> haha
2017-09-29T13:13:18 < dongs> the real question is why the fuck hes wasting time on that forum
2017-09-29T13:13:19 < dongs> damn
2017-09-29T13:23:43 < sync> he explained that before
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2017-09-29T13:35:29 < karlp> sync: what was the reason?
2017-09-29T13:39:00 < sync> karlp: that he could focus better on his srs bsnz stm32-ing when he solved other peoples problems
2017-09-29T13:39:56 < karlp> ah, same as zyp then
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2017-09-29T13:54:12 < zyp> «I prefer learning from others' mistakes rather than my own» is the way I like putting it
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2017-09-29T13:55:32 < zyp> and I also enjoy solving interesting problems
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2017-09-29T14:30:21 < dongs> so uh.. how do i configure SPI in slave mode to start transmitting without nss line?
2017-09-29T14:30:34 < dongs> slave select information
2017-09-29T14:30:35 < dongs> is driven internally by the SSI bit value in register SPIx_CR1.
2017-09-29T14:30:36 < dongs> this?
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2017-09-29T15:45:02 < jadew> man... none of these fucking chinese PCB houses specify the full stackup information
2017-09-29T15:45:20 < jadew> they do it for only one thickness
2017-09-29T15:47:43 < jpa-> ask them?
2017-09-29T15:48:56 < jadew> it's what I'm doing, but I don't like the answers
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2017-09-29T15:50:14 < BrainDamage> ha, I've got 3 chinagirls to apologize to me because their engineer is AWOL
2017-09-29T15:51:39 < Steffanx> Asian Way of Life?
2017-09-29T15:52:26 < BrainDamage> https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=AWOL
2017-09-29T15:53:11 < jadew> they're probably caught in the suicide nets
2017-09-29T15:53:16 < Steffanx> i know, but this sounded more relevant :P
2017-09-29T16:00:28 < Rob235> is image processing difficult?
2017-09-29T16:01:10 < Rob235> converting a jpg/bmp/png to greyscale and increasing contrast and shit to get a decent outline probably isn't but how about converting that to say svg 
2017-09-29T16:02:27 < jadew> lol
2017-09-29T16:02:38 < jadew> svg is vector graphics, good luck with that
2017-09-29T16:02:44 < Rob235> :)
2017-09-29T16:03:07 < BrainDamage> potrace
2017-09-29T16:03:22 < BrainDamage> but unless your pic is extremely stilized, it'll work like shit
2017-09-29T16:05:11 < Rob235> hmm thanks i'll take a look
2017-09-29T16:06:01 < jadew> ah, you knew it's vector graphics?
2017-09-29T16:06:05 < Rob235> tsp line art is probably a lot easier but it defeats the purpose of what I'm trying to do and is limited.  I'd like it add it as well though
2017-09-29T16:06:08 < Rob235> yea
2017-09-29T16:06:34 < Rob235> to convert an image to my file format for my drawing robot
2017-09-29T16:07:12 < jadew> if what BrainDamage recommended seems to work but you need outlines, see imagemagick
2017-09-29T16:07:55 < Rob235> like I said first, I would think basic image processing would be fairly easy to get a nice outline
2017-09-29T16:08:01 < Rob235> but I havent really tried
2017-09-29T16:08:12 < Rob235> I'd like to do it in javascript
2017-09-29T16:09:21 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/UCukY got a file preview mostly working for my gcode like format
2017-09-29T16:09:34 < Rob235> I want to clean it up today
2017-09-29T16:09:41 < Steffanx>  i bet someone did something similar in js before
2017-09-29T16:09:48 < jpa-> Rob235: inkscape has a rather ok trace tool
2017-09-29T16:10:10 < BrainDamage> jpa-: inkscape uses potrace
2017-09-29T16:10:14 < Rob235> I want to be able to do everything in JS. I'm hoping thats possible
2017-09-29T16:10:24 < jpa-> BrainDamage: yeah, but easier to adjust settings
2017-09-29T16:10:32 < Rob235> so that I only have to use my web interface
2017-09-29T16:11:15 < BrainDamage> you can still call a command line program from js
2017-09-29T16:11:23 < BrainDamage> at least on server side
2017-09-29T16:11:30 < Rob235> its all client side
2017-09-29T16:11:46 < Rob235> since the webserver is running off an esp8266
2017-09-29T16:12:45 < jpa-> use some online vectorizer service?
2017-09-29T16:13:06 < Rob235> I got a ways to go before I get to that point so I'll do some research then
2017-09-29T16:13:16 < Rob235> figure out my options
2017-09-29T16:13:46 < Steffanx> http://kilobtye.github.io/potrace/# ? 
2017-09-29T16:13:56 < Rob235> nice :) thx
2017-09-29T16:14:01 < Steffanx> wasnt to hard to google for "javascript potrace" :D
2017-09-29T16:14:15 < Rob235> well I dont need it yet so I dont really need to look yet
2017-09-29T16:14:20 < Rob235> :)
2017-09-29T16:15:30 < Rob235> even if I had to convert an image to outline and then to dots and then create lines between dots that are close enough together it would be a rather inefficient method but should work
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2017-09-29T16:30:52 < Cracki_> if you have to do image processing
2017-09-29T16:31:13 < Cracki_> *reads backlog*
2017-09-29T16:31:50 < Cracki_> so vectorizing... what data, got examples? check out #opencv srsly
2017-09-29T16:32:10 < Cracki_> you're looking for skeletonization perhaps
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2017-09-29T16:44:54 < Rob235> oops I'm back
2017-09-29T16:45:04 < Rob235> Cracki_: i'll check it out thanks, I dont really have an example yet, still have tons to do before I start working on that 
2017-09-29T16:45:46 < Rob235> opencv is familiar, I'm sure I came across it in my original research 
2017-09-29T16:54:13 < Steffanx> opencv isnt really javascript, so that wasnt an option right?
2017-09-29T16:56:26 < Rob235> dont remember what it was
2017-09-29T16:56:38 < Rob235> but I guess not
2017-09-29T16:57:56 < Rob235> im gonna work on cleaning up what I have, bbl
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2017-09-29T17:47:06 < englishman> http://www.marseilleinc.com/mcable-gaming-edition/
2017-09-29T17:48:11 < karlp> hangon wat
2017-09-29T17:48:17 < englishman> ikr
2017-09-29T17:50:58 < englishman> https://youtu.be/MjJzibFTaqA?t=6m29s
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2017-09-29T17:55:51 < Steffanx> Did i miss the "sponsored by mcable" disclaimer?
2017-09-29T17:56:05 < englishman> http://www.technicolor.com/download/file/fid/4694
2017-09-29T17:56:32 < englishman> wow not exactly dickstarter
2017-09-29T17:57:25 < Steffanx> im sure some will get hard from this..
2017-09-29T17:57:25 < englishman> https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=145172713&privcapId=83923391
2017-09-29T17:58:53 < Laurenceb> http://thegoldwater.com/news/8883-Vegan-Schoolboy-Hangs-Himself-After-Bullies-in-School-Threw-Meat-at-Him
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2017-09-29T18:00:38 < Laurenceb> hi englishman
2017-09-29T18:00:42 < Laurenceb> sup?
2017-09-29T18:00:46 <@englishman> nm
2017-09-29T18:00:51 <@englishman> got any cool stm32 content?
2017-09-29T18:00:56 < Laurenceb> u?
2017-09-29T18:01:01 <@englishman> just asics
2017-09-29T18:01:17 < Laurenceb> rescaling is a serious problem
2017-09-29T18:01:42 < tomeaton17> Guys do you have any idea how I would mount this http://uk.farnell.com/vishay/wsms5515l1000jk/resistor-meter-shunt-r0001-5/dp/1858288 to a pcb and have connections to the sense terminals
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2017-09-29T18:12:23 < invzim> hm, a little sceptical about 115200 baud with usb trimmed HSI48
2017-09-29T18:12:49 < invzim> hooked it up to MCO and it's quite jittery compared to signal-generator
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2017-09-29T18:15:58 < Laurenceb> prob cuz HSI is continually trimmed to align with usb
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2017-09-29T18:18:57 < invzim> which again is dependent on usb host controller
2017-09-29T18:19:19 < invzim> anyone seen what any specs on the '1 ms' USB sof when it comes to timing/jitter?
2017-09-29T18:19:22 < BrainDamage> tomeaton17: do you need the tempco of that device? otherwise you can just calc pcb trace size
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2017-09-29T18:20:02 < invzim> he, got a scope, can probably have a look at it :)
2017-09-29T18:20:24 < tomeaton17> BrainDamage: I was wondering physically how I can connect the sense connection to the pcb
2017-09-29T18:20:44 < BrainDamage> again, do you really *need* a sep sense resistor?
2017-09-29T18:20:56 < karlp> invzim: go look at what the specs are on serial reception/transmission error rate and see if you really care.
2017-09-29T18:21:18 < Laurenceb> tomeaton17: thats in usb spec
2017-09-29T18:21:24 < tomeaton17> BrainDamage: Well the current is around 60A and that would be very expensive board
2017-09-29T18:21:34 < tomeaton17> Laurenceb wrong guy
2017-09-29T18:21:42 < Laurenceb> erm sorry
2017-09-29T18:21:48 < Laurenceb> invzim
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2017-09-29T18:22:10 < karlp> tomeaton17: what are you sensing?
2017-09-29T18:22:28 < tomeaton17> karlp: Current drawn by a motor on a quadcopter
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2017-09-29T18:23:26 < tomeaton17> I would have to get a seriously thick board to get the width to a reasonable level and its just cheaper for the external part
2017-09-29T18:23:28 < karlp> aren't the allegro shits as cheap as that sense resistor anyway?
2017-09-29T18:23:37 < tomeaton17> But I have no idea how to mount it
2017-09-29T18:24:46 < tomeaton17> karlp I didn't know about those but they seem around the same price
2017-09-29T18:25:41 < tomeaton17> I wanted to use the current sense resistor because the bms chip has an adc for that
2017-09-29T18:25:53 < tomeaton17> But that thing looks easier in most ways
2017-09-29T18:31:13 < karlp> allegro has ones that you just need to run near the wire too,
2017-09-29T18:33:35 < tomeaton17> Yeah I think most of them are hall effect sensors
2017-09-29T18:33:38 < karlp> or I thought they did at least, 
2017-09-29T18:33:48 < karlp> yeah, but most of them are hall effect, within the package.
2017-09-29T18:33:52 <@englishman> tomeaton17: probably easier to use a more normal part, 60A is not a lot, plenty of 0.0005ohm resistors out there that are suitable, or hall sensors if you have the budget
2017-09-29T18:34:21 < tomeaton17> Yeah I think a hall effect sensor is the easiest way
2017-09-29T18:34:37 <@englishman> karlp: depends, allegro can be expensive, usually more than an opamp
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2017-09-29T18:34:56 < karlp> englishman: I ws just looking comapred to what they were already suggesting
2017-09-29T18:35:02 < karlp> and it's "easy" and "solved"
2017-09-29T18:35:10 <@englishman> but they are pretty easy to use and might have the bandwidth youre looking for
2017-09-29T18:35:20 <@englishman> oh yes they sure are easy
2017-09-29T18:35:38 < karlp> and I imagine this is one off rc hobby, not rc production 
2017-09-29T18:35:53 <@englishman> yeah as soon as he said quad copter
2017-09-29T18:36:12 < karlp> yar
2017-09-29T18:36:15 <@englishman> you head to the bottom of the barrel
2017-09-29T18:36:46 < tomeaton17> Actually its an internship as you can tell I dont really know what I am doing
2017-09-29T18:37:26 < karlp> man, allegro fucking _owns_ this field
2017-09-29T18:37:31 < karlp> is their anyone else with ics?
2017-09-29T18:37:40 <@englishman> not that I've found no
2017-09-29T18:37:56 <@englishman> rather niche, and they probably have good patents
2017-09-29T18:37:58 < karlp> I got sent some LEM stuff recently, some austraians
2017-09-29T18:38:05 < karlp> but it's a fucking CT with a chip built in
2017-09-29T18:38:20 < karlp> and "military" priced like this shit https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/lem-usa-inc/LA-55-TP-SP27/LA-55-TP-SP27-ND/953178
2017-09-29T18:38:39 < tomeaton17> I really dont like their logo
2017-09-29T18:38:45 < karlp> allegro eats them for breakfast
2017-09-29T18:39:08 <@englishman> hahaha
2017-09-29T18:39:26 < karlp> you don't like... their _logo_ ?
2017-09-29T18:39:29 <@englishman> all that and only 50A still
2017-09-29T18:40:08 < tomeaton17> You can definitely get more than 50A
2017-09-29T18:40:19 < karlp> yeah, that was just the first one I grabbed from lem
2017-09-29T18:40:58 < tomeaton17> Looks like 200A is the max
2017-09-29T18:41:05 < karlp> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/melexis-technologies-nv/MLX91210KDC-CAS-102-RE/MLX91210KDC-CAS-102-RECT-ND/6823662
2017-09-29T18:41:34 < karlp> good luck getting 50A through those leads though
2017-09-29T18:41:41 < karlp> that's what you get when you buy allegro
2017-09-29T18:42:08 < tomeaton17> Its proximity I dont think you need to actually connect it
2017-09-29T18:42:13 <@englishman> https://technology.ihs.com/394843/top-5-magnetic-sensor-suppliers-make-up-whopping-80-percent-of-total-market
2017-09-29T18:42:15 < karlp> read the sheets my friend.
2017-09-29T18:42:25 < karlp> it's hall effect _inside_ the package
2017-09-29T18:42:35 < karlp> though I am trying to find the one i saw recently that was external
2017-09-29T18:42:50 < karlp> devboard included bolts and spacers for lining up the conductor externally properly
2017-09-29T18:44:16 < tomeaton17> Ah yes thats not ideal
2017-09-29T18:45:17 < karlp> asahai kasei?! 
2017-09-29T18:45:56 < tomeaton17> Well I will get one and give it a go
2017-09-29T18:47:25 < karlp> ok AKM is on digikey too
2017-09-29T18:49:54 < tomeaton17> What unit is Ar,s
2017-09-29T18:49:56 < tomeaton17> *Arms
2017-09-29T18:50:01 < tomeaton17> Is that meant to be Amps
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2017-09-29T18:53:23 < tomeaton17> http://www.akm.com/akm/en/product/detail/0009/ on here
2017-09-29T18:54:13 < tomeaton17> Oh its Amps RMS
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2017-09-29T19:26:20 <@englishman> https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?2922046-FrSky-New-Horus-X10-and-X10S/page81#post38360296
2017-09-29T19:26:22 <@englishman> pro design
2017-09-29T19:31:34 < karlp> I don't get it.  is it just "we used usb-c and it worked, end of story" ?
2017-09-29T19:31:46 < karlp> "but some people thought it wouldn't fit, without actually trying" ?
2017-09-29T19:32:08 <@englishman> maybe "nobody uses this connector but us lol"
2017-09-29T19:32:19 <@englishman> "it was cheap and 100W rated"
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2017-09-29T19:37:01 < karlp> but it's just usb-c?
2017-09-29T19:37:35 < karlp> is this a connector for a battery pack?
2017-09-29T19:38:06 <@englishman> yeah connected directly to it
2017-09-29T19:38:16 <@englishman> to charge with proprietary charger
2017-09-29T19:41:05 < sync> lel
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2017-09-29T23:37:23 < ohsix> h3h
2017-09-29T23:37:49 < ohsix> ceo of chicktech is going to be here in a few minutes
2017-09-29T23:38:37 < jadew> sounds like they're building kinky stuff
2017-09-29T23:40:20 < jadew> why is that thing women only?
2017-09-29T23:40:44 < jadew> sexist organization
2017-09-29T23:41:35 < jadew> "Girls continue to face specific challenges, particularly girls of color and those from low-income backgrounds:"
2017-09-29T23:41:56 < jadew> "4.7 million girls ages 5-19 in the U.S. live below the poverty line." - are the numbers for boys different?
2017-09-29T23:42:53 < jadew> "Girls continue to be barraged by messages that communicate girls’ objectification and limitations. Girls are told their value lies in their appearance, not their intelligence or strength." - educate their parents and stop watching shit TV
2017-09-29T23:43:44 < Steffanx> Dont make me cry jadew 
2017-09-29T23:43:54 < Steffanx> (crap like that makes me cry)
2017-09-29T23:45:14 < jadew> "In an all-girl setting, every leadership position is filled by a girl. Girls interact with more female role models including capable and dynamic women from diverse backgrounds."
2017-09-29T23:45:40 < upgrdman> cue the crying
2017-09-29T23:45:41 < ohsix> that's just the ad copy
2017-09-29T23:45:48 < jadew> "In all-girl environments, girls are recognized for their achievements. This can result in a boost of self-confidence and a heightened awareness of what girls and young women can achieve."
2017-09-29T23:46:17 < jadew> they insinuate that in a mixed environment girls are not recognized for their achievements
2017-09-29T23:46:19 < ohsix> not speaking generally about girls or women, but i've been told a lot of times that they'll drop out of social & educational opportunities if there aren't already enough girls around
2017-09-29T23:46:50 < ohsix> from teachers and educators
2017-09-29T23:46:51 < jadew> ohsix, maybe that's a good thing
2017-09-29T23:47:02 < ohsix> yes, they should be relegated to the shed amirite
2017-09-29T23:47:11 < jadew> if it looks like your life, following that track, is going to be shit
2017-09-29T23:47:13 < Steffanx> Make them join irc.
2017-09-29T23:47:17 < jadew> why have someone lie to you?
2017-09-29T23:47:23 < ohsix> when there are shortages of people to work in tech jobs you can't just dismiss half of the workforce out of hand
2017-09-29T23:47:38 < jadew> there aren't shortages of people in tech jobs
2017-09-29T23:47:50 < ohsix> heheh
2017-09-29T23:47:51 < ohsix> ok
2017-09-29T23:48:07 < jadew> and everyone can do it
2017-09-29T23:48:13 < upgrdman> jadew, there is if you want GOOD people
2017-09-29T23:48:29 < upgrdman> e.g. lots of EE's... not so many that can deliver a decent product
2017-09-29T23:48:29 < ohsix> it's not about can or ability
2017-09-29T23:48:44 < jadew> yeah, but good people don't care about how many others of the same sex are already doing that\
2017-09-29T23:48:48 < ohsix> even educated people fucking fail it at the jobs they're put in, with the credentials they were hired for
2017-09-29T23:48:48 < upgrdman> and its an even bigger problem with CS and software
2017-09-29T23:49:40 < jadew> upgrdman, yeah, but my point is that if you have the call, you do it, if the fact that there aren't enough chicks around puts you off, then you're better off doing something else
2017-09-29T23:49:42 < ohsix> it goes both ways, but men are rarely thrust into situations where there's no men
2017-09-29T23:49:53 < jadew> because in the real world, it'll be a complete sausage party
2017-09-29T23:50:17 < jadew> ohsix, yet, they do go into that if they want to
2017-09-29T23:50:20 < ohsix> in a way you're adding way too much significance to simple preference
2017-09-29T23:50:21 < jadew> same with chicks
2017-09-29T23:50:27 < jadew> if they really want to, they'll do it
2017-09-29T23:50:35 < jadew> if they don't really want to, you don't want them anyway
2017-09-29T23:51:02 < ohsix> it's not about merit or ability or anything, people prefer not to be put in those situations; if they're doing creative or difficult work and they don't have anyone that they can speak freely with about their job or work, then it's just fucking horrible and you don't want to do it
2017-09-29T23:51:05 < jadew> I'm not the one who promots sex seggregated tech thingies
2017-09-29T23:51:32 < ohsix> it would be nice if you could just write off everyone that isn't 'hungry' enough, or doesn't want it badly
2017-09-29T23:51:40 < ohsix> to what you've said earlier, everyone can do it
2017-09-29T23:51:50 < ohsix> then you come up with arbitrary restrictions about why they shouldn't
2017-09-29T23:52:26 < jadew> that's the thing, there are no restrictions
2017-09-29T23:52:47 < jadew> and I have no problem with encouraging people to do this, but doing it only for girls, is silly and sexist
2017-09-29T23:53:04 < jadew> and gives them the wrong idea about the real tech world
2017-09-29T23:53:07 < ohsix> but worry not, this is a single woman that wants to meet with this whole group of men and she's not scared away from doing it
2017-09-29T23:53:24 < jadew> and again, if they're alergic to it, maybe they shouldn't do it
2017-09-29T23:53:45 < ohsix> there's no giving ideas about anything, and you're basically saying 'oh bother, the world is bad and sexist and fuck off' because you benefit from it implicitly
2017-09-29T23:54:03 < jadew> where am I saying that?
2017-09-29T23:54:21 < jadew> I never said the world is sexist, I said this chicktech thing is sexist
2017-09-29T23:54:38 < ohsix> every time you've said 'real world', and that it is sexust because you're somehow personally feeling excluded
2017-09-29T23:55:07 < jadew> when I say real world, I mean what the real distribution of sexes is in the tech world
2017-09-29T23:55:20 < ohsix> the ad copy is saying that it is a fine place to be, and you won't be fucked with just by being there; that's it
2017-09-29T23:55:20 < jadew> where it's not all female or even 50/50
2017-09-29T23:55:26 < ohsix> they work with men, they don't turn them away
2017-09-29T23:55:45 < jadew> if the girls who get into this program need that, then it will be a shitty experience for them down the line
2017-09-29T23:55:56 < ohsix> and you can't post-hoc statistics about what the composition of something is if you're influencing what the composition is
2017-09-29T23:55:57  * karlp shakes his head sadly.
2017-09-29T23:56:06 < ohsix> they're people
2017-09-29T23:56:22 < jadew> ohsix, nobody is influencing it
2017-09-29T23:56:38 < jadew> now you have a natural distrubution
2017-09-29T23:56:41 < ohsix> they'll have the skills to work or start their own business, it is not implied they'll just be thrown to the wolves or the worst of anything you can conceive of
2017-09-29T23:57:14 < jadew> why do you see the tech world as hostile towards girls?
2017-09-29T23:57:16 < jadew> it's not
2017-09-29T23:57:48 < ohsix> i'm not going to copy the buffer
2017-09-29T23:58:24 < ohsix> you are loading up way too much on the situation, women will not participate if they know there are no women or less than a critical mass of women in a situation; men will do the same thing
2017-09-29T23:58:29 < jadew> dude, this program implies that GIRLS are afraid of that environment, not that the environment is hostile
2017-09-29T23:58:45 < ohsix> they dont' know the environment
2017-09-29T23:59:15 < ohsix> how about something that has nothing to do with gender
2017-09-29T23:59:16 < jadew> my point is that if they're so alergic to it, then perhaps they shouldn't get into it, because the distribution is what it is, mostly men
2017-09-29T23:59:42 < ohsix> a restaurant that is busy, you have to wait 10 minutes; some people will choose not to wait on simple preference
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2017-09-30T00:00:02 < jadew> it's like making a male only nurse school and then you find yourself as a nurse and you realize you don't like it
2017-09-30T00:00:18 < jadew> but that side of the story was kept from you
2017-09-30T00:00:27 < ohsix> only there's like 10 years of training, sure would be a bummer if they only found out then
2017-09-30T00:00:40 < jadew> the fact that girls turn away from some fields because they're mostly men occupied, means that those girls can't take it and that's fine
2017-09-30T00:00:47 < ohsix> not fields
2017-09-30T00:01:03 < ohsix> you're reading way too much into it
2017-09-30T00:01:25 < jadew> I don't like sexist shit
2017-09-30T00:01:29 < ohsix> consider how people pick sports teams or how they commit to brands
2017-09-30T00:02:06 < Thorn> what is the proper term? an RGB led has 3 ???s (red, green and blue). an RGBW led as an additional white ???
2017-09-30T00:02:06 < ohsix> you don't like sexist, but you're using elaborate models of 'fields' where women are excluded by a mechanism you're actually comfortable with tha tis very close to sexism as you state it
2017-09-30T00:02:13 < ohsix> Thorn: y
2017-09-30T00:02:39 < ohsix> jadew: if you want to be a total shit about it, you can count the number of groups that do this
2017-09-30T00:02:40 < jadew> ohsix, lol, dude, women are not excluded
2017-09-30T00:02:53 < jadew> they chose not to get into it because they don't like the composition
2017-09-30T00:03:03 < jadew> it's like saying that men are excluded from the nursing field
2017-09-30T00:03:12 < ohsix> it's nothing like that
2017-09-30T00:03:18 < jadew> it's exactly like that
2017-09-30T00:03:31 < ohsix> then we disagree and we're talking about 2 different things
2017-09-30T00:03:41 < jadew> how is it not the exactly same thing?
2017-09-30T00:03:47 < jadew> what's the difference?
2017-09-30T00:03:49 < BrainDamage> Thorn: channels
2017-09-30T00:03:53 < ohsix> you have enough information to figure it out
2017-09-30T00:04:00 < Thorn> >The RGB LED has three different colors of LED inside of it.
2017-09-30T00:04:03 < Thorn> >Each RGB LED has three separate LEDs inside
2017-09-30T00:04:04 < jadew> I obviously don't because I don't see it
2017-09-30T00:04:06 < jadew> please tell me
2017-09-30T00:04:08 < Thorn> ^ both stupid imo
2017-09-30T00:04:24 < BrainDamage> emitters if you prefer
2017-09-30T00:04:44 < Thorn> that was my idea
2017-09-30T00:04:44 < BrainDamage> channels when referring to the addressed controls, emitters to the physical shit that outputs light
2017-09-30T00:06:08 < Thorn> yeah emitter sounds best thanks
2017-09-30T00:11:17 < ohsix> Thorn: is that hypothetical copy or are you reading something
2017-09-30T00:11:37 < ohsix> i've seen '3 dies' / emitters used
2017-09-30T00:11:50 < BrainDamage> he's writing, otherwise he'd just parse the sentence
2017-09-30T00:11:56 < ohsix> k
2017-09-30T00:12:08 < jadew> ohsix, I'm expecting an answer
2017-09-30T00:12:39 < ohsix> there isn't one
2017-09-30T00:12:53 < jadew> then I am right, thank you
2017-09-30T00:13:15 < ohsix> you do you
2017-09-30T00:13:31 < Thorn> but you can't say 'white die', can you
2017-09-30T00:13:35 < ohsix> hehe
2017-09-30T00:13:36 < ohsix> not really
2017-09-30T00:13:46 < ohsix> yea the phosphor on the white one needs its own attention
2017-09-30T00:13:53 < jadew> Thorn, white light emitting die
2017-09-30T00:13:57 < ohsix> '2 blue dies, one with phosphor on it to make it white'
2017-09-30T00:14:10 < jadew> the die itself might not be white
2017-09-30T00:14:16 < ohsix> it will not be white
2017-09-30T00:14:24 < BrainDamage> there's no such thing as a white die
2017-09-30T00:14:33 < BrainDamage> because physics
2017-09-30T00:14:51 < ohsix> why do leds always exclude the whites!!11 racist
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2017-09-30T00:15:27 < jadew> but they try their best to look white
2017-09-30T00:16:23 < jadew> did you guys know there are detergents that make white clothes whiter than white?
2017-09-30T00:16:49 < BrainDamage> is it international shitpost day, because i must've missed the memo
2017-09-30T00:16:50 < jadew> they absorb light from outside the visual spectrum and reemit it
2017-09-30T00:17:28 < ohsix> that is to say, they don't make them white
2017-09-30T00:17:29 < jadew> apparently some of the white clothes you buy are treated like that
2017-09-30T00:17:40 < BrainDamage> that's not whiter, that's brighter
2017-09-30T00:17:41 <@englishman> nice
2017-09-30T00:17:45 <@englishman> i can now dicknplace DF40HC(3.0)-70DS-0.4V
2017-09-30T00:17:47 < jadew> and that's why they lose the whiteness after you wash them
2017-09-30T00:17:51 <@englishman> required a $500 feeder
2017-09-30T00:18:19 < Thorn> can you dicknplace bmp280
2017-09-30T00:18:37 <@englishman> yes!
2017-09-30T00:18:41 <@englishman> i do a lot of those
2017-09-30T00:18:54 <@englishman> the rubber band is holding up well
2017-09-30T00:19:02 < ohsix> what's special about the 280?
2017-09-30T00:19:11 < ohsix> has the hole, but is there tape on it in the reel?
2017-09-30T00:19:14 <@englishman> its 4mm pitch on 12mm tape
2017-09-30T00:19:32 < ohsix> ah
2017-09-30T00:19:38 <@englishman> along with lis3mdl they bounce all around on the tape if it is not held down properly when advancing
2017-09-30T00:20:23 < ohsix> why do they do that, no smaller tape types that can really hold it anyways?
2017-09-30T00:20:31 <@englishman> next one down is 8mm
2017-09-30T00:20:38 <@englishman> guess they are a bit too big for that
2017-09-30T00:21:05 < ohsix> so with the right feeder it doesn't bounce around as much? do you need a camera to correct it or pick it up
2017-09-30T00:22:10 < ohsix> haven't had much time setting up or using p&p
2017-09-30T00:22:28 <@englishman> feeder requires a rubber band
2017-09-30T00:22:39 <@englishman> yeah every part gets vision
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2017-09-30T00:26:20 < ohsix> wife of my buddy worked at the UN, oen of her last reports before she retired/left was about women education & stem in the uae
2017-09-30T00:26:30 < ohsix> where girls definitely need to man up amirite
2017-09-30T00:26:56 < jadew> that's completely different
2017-09-30T00:27:03 < karlp> heh
2017-09-30T00:27:39 < ohsix> 'i have a computer engineering degree' has already been said after someone asked if she knew what IoT was \m/
2017-09-30T00:28:00 < ohsix> nah man they'd have a nice country if women weren't just passive receptacles of abuse
2017-09-30T00:28:08 < ohsix> it's definitely the women in the uae that are the problem
2017-09-30T00:28:27 < jadew> that's because of religion, not because of "men culture"
2017-09-30T00:28:37 < karlp> you're hilarious 
2017-09-30T00:28:50 < jadew> you can't draw a parallel between them and the rest of the world
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2017-09-30T00:34:15 < Steffanx> Thorn y u no tell us 'bout: http://www.arianespace.com/mission/ariane-flight-va239/ ?
2017-09-30T00:37:07 < jadew> where is this being launched from?
2017-09-30T00:38:45 <@englishman> ariane is ESU right? isnt it french guinea?
2017-09-30T00:38:51 <@englishman> ESA*
2017-09-30T00:39:33 <@englishman> For its ninth launch of the year, and the fifth Ariane 5 mission in 2017 from the Guiana Space Center in French Guiana, Arianespace will orbit
2017-09-30T00:39:37 <@englishman> literally in video description
2017-09-30T00:40:15 < jadew> my english is not very good
2017-09-30T00:41:13 < jadew> had to google it: south america
2017-09-30T00:42:17 < jadew> technical issue?
2017-09-30T00:42:20 < ohsix> hehe
2017-09-30T00:42:32 < ohsix> you mean a different religion, not just a religion or not
2017-09-30T00:42:36 <@englishman> http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/chestermere-rcmp-dog-discharges-pistol-1.4313103
2017-09-30T00:42:50 < ohsix> the post-hoc reasoning about why women don't do science are why women don't do science
2017-09-30T00:43:40 < ohsix> how you consider everything isn't weird, though; parents of girls generally enforce gender roles as they saw them, and doing things boys do being wrong is set early
2017-09-30T00:44:16 < Thorn> what is the point of SK6812-WWA (blue white (6000-7000K), warm sunlight (2700-3000K), amber (1800-2000K))
2017-09-30T00:44:29 < Thorn> addressable
2017-09-30T00:44:29 < jadew> ohsix, that's exactly what I said when we started this conversation
2017-09-30T00:44:37 < jadew> if you want to fix this, educate the parents
2017-09-30T00:44:45 <@englishman> that is cool Thorn 
2017-09-30T00:45:01 < jadew> and chicks that want to blame someone for their failures, should blame their parents for raising them like that
2017-09-30T00:45:17 <@englishman> plenty of uses for individually adjustable lighting temperature
2017-09-30T00:45:26 < Thorn> it's probably nice to be able to vary color temperature of your lighting
2017-09-30T00:45:37 < Thorn> but why do it individually per led
2017-09-30T00:45:45 <@englishman> copypaste?
2017-09-30T00:45:52 < jadew> do adjustable bulbs have a good CRI?
2017-09-30T00:46:05 <@englishman> these are all a little pwm IC thingy goldbonded onto the larger led die
2017-09-30T00:46:08 < jadew> I wanted to get one, but I was afraid its light might suck
2017-09-30T00:46:31 < jadew> (adjustable color temp)
2017-09-30T00:46:44 <@englishman> no current driver needed
2017-09-30T00:47:50 < jadew> will they tell us what's wrong with the rocket?
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2017-09-30T00:48:14 < Thorn> led strip with these WWA leds is twice as expensive as standard WS2812B (both 60/m)
2017-09-30T00:48:33 < vampi-the-frog> SGS/Thompson
2017-09-30T00:48:37 < vampi-the-frog> hi
2017-09-30T00:49:02 < vampi-the-frog> oops Thomson*
2017-09-30T00:49:22 < vampi-the-frog> who wants to help with an USB project?
2017-09-30T00:49:44 < vampi-the-frog> I have a C program that lists all the descriptors of all the devices on your system
2017-09-30T00:49:48 < vampi-the-frog> but you have to run it as root
2017-09-30T00:50:00 < vampi-the-frog> I just need the output from the program (pastebin)
2017-09-30T00:50:04 < vampi-the-frog> it's JSON data
2017-09-30T00:50:31 < vampi-the-frog> http://ix.io/Aui
2017-09-30T00:50:56 < vampi-the-frog> compile with gcc -std=c99 usbdesc.c `pkg-config libusb-1.0 --libs --cflags` -o getdesc
2017-09-30T00:51:04 < vampi-the-frog> only tested on linux
2017-09-30T00:55:37 < vampi-the-frog> oh and plug in as many USB devices as you can
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2017-09-30T01:05:02 < ds2> anyone messed with the ST25 parts?
2017-09-30T01:08:00 < zyp> the tag or the reader parts?
2017-09-30T01:10:08 < zyp> apparently ST classifies all NFC stuff under ST25, including the older parts that doesn't use the ST25 naming
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2017-09-30T01:11:21 < ds2> tag
2017-09-30T01:11:39 < zyp> the dynamic ones? i.e. ST25DV?
2017-09-30T01:11:49 < ds2> was wondering how badly would an inductor act as an antenna
2017-09-30T01:11:55 < ds2> MR25SR04 
2017-09-30T01:11:57 < ds2> or similar
2017-09-30T01:12:39 < zyp> huh?
2017-09-30T01:13:18 < ds2> blah
2017-09-30T01:13:22 < upgrdman> in win10, is there an easy way to temporarily cripple your cpu? e.g. "enable only 1 core, at 1GHz"  (for testing software that will run of cheap shit computers)
2017-09-30T01:13:28 < ds2> M24SR04 is a P/N
2017-09-30T01:13:32 < upgrdman> s/of/on
2017-09-30T01:13:35 < ds2> they call that the ST25 family :(
2017-09-30T01:13:39 < zyp> ah, you added an R too much
2017-09-30T01:14:17 < ds2> yes, sorry
2017-09-30T01:14:18 < zyp> I haven't used M24SR, but I have a ton of M24LR demoboards
2017-09-30T01:14:40 < ds2> they claim you can use an inductor as the antenna...just donno how poorly will it be
2017-09-30T01:14:43 < zyp> I bought the discovery kits because I wanted the CR95HF boards (readers)
2017-09-30T01:14:54 < ds2> oh hahha... I got a few free from them 
2017-09-30T01:15:11 < zyp> I probably have 10+
2017-09-30T01:15:25 < zyp> so if anybody want any, just let me know :p
2017-09-30T01:15:36 < ds2> think the M24LR demo board has a variant that uses an inductor for the antenna
2017-09-30T01:15:47 < ds2> they claim it is similar on the M24SR
2017-09-30T01:15:52 < zyp> the ones I have is using a trace coil
2017-09-30T01:16:14 < ds2> all I want is something that can be read on a phone touch it
2017-09-30T01:16:20 < zyp> antenna requirements shouldn't be too different, they are both 13.56MHz
2017-09-30T01:18:25 < ds2> *nod*
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2017-09-30T03:49:03 < dongs>  < upgrdman> in win10, is there an easy way to temporarily cripple your cpu? < yeah, vmware
2017-09-30T03:49:54 < dongs> < Steffanx> Thorn y u no tell us 'bout: http://www.arianespace.com/mission/ariane-flight-va239/ ?
2017-09-30T03:49:58 < dongs> that had a jappu satellite on it too
2017-09-30T03:50:49 < upgrdman> dongs, was that a joke, or can vmware cuckstation let you throttle the cpu?
2017-09-30T03:51:07 < dongs> of course you can choose how many cores
2017-09-30T03:51:10 < dongs> when you make a vm
2017-09-30T03:51:17 < upgrdman> ya but what about muh GHz
2017-09-30T03:51:27 < dongs> you can with esxi, not sure about workstation
2017-09-30T03:51:32 < upgrdman> k
2017-09-30T03:51:35 < dongs> maybe check if hyperv can do resource allocation?
2017-09-30T03:51:35 < dongs> ok
2017-09-30T03:52:43 < ds2> you use a sane OS... you can use CPUfreq.... 
2017-09-30T03:52:44  * ds2 ducks
2017-09-30T03:52:58 < ds2> s/you/if you/
2017-09-30T03:54:54 < upgrdman> ya im sure there's some cmd.exe magic fuckery that'll do the trick too, i just don't know it
2017-09-30T04:39:02 < aandrew> LRH up
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2017-09-30T04:57:57 < aandrew> wtf I can't run two instances of ozone?
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2017-09-30T05:29:10 < dongs> do you have 2 jlinks?
2017-09-30T05:41:45 < emeb_mac> hijinks
2017-09-30T05:46:18 < aandrew> yeah
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2017-09-30T06:48:59 < ohsix> jadew: if you're engaging parents, how they enforce gender rolls is some high high level shit, you wouldn't waste your time on it
2017-09-30T06:49:46 < jadew> ohsix, that's the only way to fix this, because there's nothing wrong with the environment
2017-09-30T06:49:59 < jadew> if there's anything wrong, it's with the girls and that's on their parents not on everyone else
2017-09-30T06:51:43 < jadew> (which is what seggregating the sexes like that because "men are not inclussive enough" seems to imply)
2017-09-30T06:52:14 < jadew> in fact, I would bet you dollars that any tech space that's swarming with men, would welcome technically inclined women
2017-09-30T06:52:20 < jadew> because you know... men like women
2017-09-30T06:55:31 < jadew> so yeah... stop raising them like they won't have to have any worry in the world and they'll start being techinically inclined
2017-09-30T06:57:57 < dongs> parenting advice from amp!six, fucking gold
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2017-09-30T07:21:41 < dongs> holy fuck
2017-09-30T07:21:55 < dongs> trying to merge some MP4s with mkvmerge
2017-09-30T07:22:00 < dongs> 17gb of ram used
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2017-09-30T09:29:36 < ohsix> https://twitter.com/azonenberg/status/914013683323244544
2017-09-30T09:30:05 < ohsix> jadew: the parents were products of their parents and their environment
2017-09-30T09:30:19 < ohsix> it is turtles all the way down
2017-09-30T09:31:18 < ohsix> their parents can only influence your behaviour indirectly, you can choose to act to benefit whomever person or group you want
2017-09-30T09:32:36 < ohsix> it is probably fair to say that people that can't help it deserve the most attention, wrt familial circumstance and any improved outcome that you can influence
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2017-09-30T09:45:31 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqE-ultsWt0 haha
2017-09-30T10:06:39 < Steffanx> When can we buy our own rockets in wallmart?
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2017-09-30T10:15:46 < ohsix> that penis pump is definitely in my ebay history
2017-09-30T10:16:57 < ohsix> spacex is reaching dahir inshaat levels
2017-09-30T10:19:35 < Steffanx> Im glad i have no clue what that means
2017-09-30T10:21:18 < zyp> Steffanx, you've been able to since forever
2017-09-30T10:21:32 < zyp> walmart sold rocket kits last I visited one ten years ago
2017-09-30T10:22:21 < Steffanx> I mean full size as transport.
2017-09-30T10:22:30 < Steffanx> Vehicle
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2017-09-30T10:39:36 < ohsix> Steffanx: oh you know what it is, you just forgot or never heard the name https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzkYwY_d9bk
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2017-09-30T11:36:45 < ohsix> ehh anyone know enough about mqtt to say whether or not different origins can reply to the same topic if a parameter is different. use case is sensors that have no 'old' records, a server with logs/historical values return the data for queries older than 'old'
2017-09-30T11:38:05 < ohsix> guess the pubsub model makes the question silly, but is still close to what i want to do, mqtt or not
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2017-09-30T11:39:32 < ohsix> kademlia / dht searches kind of match exactly
2017-09-30T11:40:03 < ohsix> any respondent for the same key can return different parts of what the key means
2017-09-30T11:51:08 < ohsix> http://cdn.coverstand.com/27296/437849/iphonejpg/960/eaa2898983abccf285e4cb37eb7a1e23c8b19ac2.jpg sexissssssssssssssssssssssssssssst
2017-09-30T11:52:07 < ohsix> oil companies too, you'd think they know better
2017-09-30T12:05:16 < gnom> https://youtu.be/iHynIsJXqb4
2017-09-30T12:15:12 < gnom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvWOvfuFFIQ
2017-09-30T12:16:47 < gnom> max speed 14.0 Mach
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2017-09-30T13:35:26 < ohsix> uhh http://www.seeedstudio.com/document/pdf/WS2812B%20Datasheet.pdfsays at the top that there's an interal 12v thing,  but nowhere else
2017-09-30T13:35:40 < ohsix> being able to run them at 12v would be nice
2017-09-30T13:36:46 < ohsix> not needing a 40 amp power supply could be pretty handy
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2017-09-30T15:40:43 < Thorn> ohsix: https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/WS2811.pdf
2017-09-30T15:41:35 < Thorn> can take up to 12V on its OUT pins
2017-09-30T15:44:23 < Thorn> also LPD8803/8806/6803 (SPI)
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2017-09-30T15:44:51 < Thorn> there are 12V strips built on these ICs on aliexpress
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2017-09-30T16:55:12 < invzim> So I have something that resembles a library of sorts that will be used in 2 or 3 projects
2017-09-30T16:56:08 < invzim> google points me to git subtree and git submodule, can't I just have a 'lib repo' within 'main repo' tree, and just add the 'lib repo' to .gitignore?
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2017-09-30T17:13:57 < Cracki> you can, but then you have no relation between the root module and the submodules
2017-09-30T17:14:14 < Cracki> the idea of submodules is to record the state of those too, just the commit hash
2017-09-30T17:14:41 < Cracki> also perhaps don't keep them as a subdirectory, but as a sibling directory
2017-09-30T17:15:22 < Cracki> really, don't feat git submodules
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2017-09-30T18:38:19 < [7]> ohsix: they basically threw out jquery in their code, so I have to load that myself now. and they did something that causes the search text fields to not sync before the auto "sort by price per piece" on load fires, so I copy that manually as well.
2017-09-30T18:38:54 < [7]> really nothing fancy
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2017-09-30T20:16:24 <@englishman> lol cant wait to pay $500k to go to shanghai in a couple hours instead of 14 hours
2017-09-30T20:18:00 < kakimir> supersonic airliners?
2017-09-30T20:18:33 <@englishman> ongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqE-ultsWt0 haha
2017-09-30T20:24:46 < vampirefrog> that's pretty far out, man
2017-09-30T20:26:18 <@englishman> kaks https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/eF0PIdGO/IMG_20170930_112148.jpg
2017-09-30T20:27:52 < kakimir> where you keep the b0dies?
2017-09-30T20:28:20 < kakimir> are you makin wine or something?
2017-09-30T20:29:01 < vampirefrog> that's awful, that would imply he's a murderer
2017-09-30T20:29:08 < vampirefrog> the second one is much better, thank you
2017-09-30T20:29:43 < kakimir> englishman: what is that bad looking stuff?
2017-09-30T20:30:36 <@englishman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8Q8MoE4Y/IMG_20170930_105042.jpg
2017-09-30T20:30:53 <@englishman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/XB3YmXQd/IMG_20170930_101415.jpg
2017-09-30T20:31:15 < kakimir> berry business?
2017-09-30T20:31:24 < vampirefrog> that'll hold you through the winter
2017-09-30T20:33:21 < kakimir> I can't understand what is happening in the photos
2017-09-30T20:33:52 <@englishman> lol it wont be ready til july
2017-09-30T20:34:02 < kakimir> and if englishman uses illegal immigrants to pick his berries
2017-09-30T20:34:49 <@englishman> its the first stage of wine production kaks
2017-09-30T20:38:01 < kakimir> you need a lot wire
2017-09-30T20:38:03 < kakimir> wine
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2017-09-30T21:01:00 < invzim> and wire!
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2017-09-30T21:02:53 < kakimir> yess
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