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2017-10-01T01:06:46 < jadew> have you guys seen The Orville? it's the star-trek parody
2017-10-01T01:07:09 < jadew> turns out it's better and more like star-trek than the new "Star Trek: Discovery"
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2017-10-01T02:55:50 < dongs> sup dongs
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2017-10-01T04:27:08 < Cracki> saw 4 eps. good stuff.
2017-10-01T04:27:27 < Cracki> std tastes a little bit like blm in space
2017-10-01T04:37:43 < Rob235> fuck man, is this website done yet?
2017-10-01T04:37:45 < Rob235> I'm bored of it
2017-10-01T04:42:50 < ohsix> ircing from another strange place
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2017-10-01T04:49:59 < upgrdman> :)  https://i.redd.it/m8vjroiy64pz.gif
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2017-10-01T05:00:19 < ohsix> Thorn: that's even more confusing
2017-10-01T05:00:42 < ohsix> and vout isn't even on the package
2017-10-01T05:00:49 < ohsix> ohhhhhh
2017-10-01T05:00:55 < ohsix> i see, interesting
2017-10-01T05:02:28 < ohsix> http://homepage.divms.uiowa.edu/~jones/bcd/mod.shtml
2017-10-01T05:02:47 < ohsix> bbc america is showing voyager reruns, but it's showing them in order, it's weird
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2017-10-01T05:20:46 < ohsix> [7]: what was really weird is that it sometimes worked, i noticed the jquery stuff
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2017-10-01T07:43:10 <@englishman> https://i.imgur.com/SQLn3RY.jpg
2017-10-01T07:43:32 <@englishman> http://avherald.com/h?article=4af15205&opt=0
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2017-10-01T08:26:25 < jadew> stupid ebay
2017-10-01T08:26:45 < jadew> if you hover on the items on the home page it says "(items opens in new tab)"
2017-10-01T08:26:53 < jadew> and if you click on them, they open in the same tab...
2017-10-01T08:32:34 < boB_K7IQ> Oooops !
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2017-10-01T09:51:07 < stvn> hello welcome!
2017-10-01T10:16:10 < stvn> <turboniggger> ALL HAIL SIR ADOLF THE GREAT
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2017-10-01T11:04:19 < ohsix> balls
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2017-10-01T11:49:42 < ohsix> google started telling me about tv shows unprompted the other day :|
2017-10-01T11:50:58 < ohsix> other shit too, like; how Now behaves vs. 2 months ago, it's like i wasn't even working
2017-10-01T12:05:03 < ohsix> bigclive almost vomits live smelling the puck from the fractured but whole nosulus
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2017-10-01T12:15:21 < Adluc> hello guys, any real experience with chinese PCB manufacturers?
2017-10-01T12:15:34 < Adluc> any recommendations
2017-10-01T12:27:24 < ohsix> the cheapest ones on pcbshopper
2017-10-01T12:34:13 < TheSeven> ohsix: timing might have been involved there, with stuff getting loaded asynchronously in the background
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2017-10-01T12:43:45 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLRxO9AmNNo
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2017-10-01T12:50:53 < dongs> Adluc: allpcb.com all the fucking way
2017-10-01T12:51:03 < dongs> i ordered 5 boards with OSP, they shipped literally next fucking day
2017-10-01T12:51:08 < dongs> adn quality is 100% acceptable for chinese trash
2017-10-01T12:51:20 < dongs> (oh , and i received 20 boards)
2017-10-01T12:51:22 < dongs> not 5
2017-10-01T12:51:43 < zyp> cool
2017-10-01T12:52:03 < zyp> price model like all other chinatrash?
2017-10-01T12:52:08 < dongs> it was $16
2017-10-01T12:52:31 < dongs> iirc it allowe you to choose from several pcb factories before, it didn't let me on my order maybe beacuse of qty of OSP
2017-10-01T12:52:37 < dongs> but it doesnt matter, tis cheap as fuck
2017-10-01T12:52:41 < dongs> gross silk, but whatever
2017-10-01T12:53:10 < zyp> what's the deal with OSP btw?
2017-10-01T12:53:45 < dongs> cheaper than enig, and 100% less gross than hasl
2017-10-01T12:53:48 < dongs> still leveled pads
2017-10-01T12:55:11 < zyp> oh, I thought it was supposed to be better than enig in some way
2017-10-01T12:55:21 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/eGoadh7.jpg
2017-10-01T12:55:23 < dongs> no, just chceaper
2017-10-01T12:55:40 < zyp> and yeah, that silk is gross
2017-10-01T12:55:45 < dongs> yeah its fucking awful
2017-10-01T13:00:55 < dongs> anyway, enig was like $25 for tehse boards
2017-10-01T13:00:56 < dongs> so whatever
2017-10-01T13:01:00 < dongs> OSP is just as good
2017-10-01T13:01:03 < dongs> china enig is gross anyway
2017-10-01T13:01:09 < dongs> very littel actual GOLD in it
2017-10-01T13:01:16 < dongs> so there's no reason to pay for it
2017-10-01T13:02:39 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/xZ7Qca62.html
2017-10-01T13:02:46 < dongs> this is teh process log from allpcb
2017-10-01T13:03:01 < dongs> so yea less than 24h
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2017-10-01T13:12:19 < Adluc> looks nice :) local pool service is quick, but for larger batches, this is quite good
2017-10-01T13:17:38 < dongs> i dont know if they do larger
2017-10-01T13:17:47 < dongs> i tried to quote 5k boards for a throwaway proj and they said > 5m^2 cant quote
2017-10-01T13:18:19 < dongs> im not sure how much quicker than 24h to shipping and 2-3 days by dhl it can get
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2017-10-01T13:50:51 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/Cu21rND.png do you think its ok if i solder these 2 together
2017-10-01T14:09:02 < zyp> wat
2017-10-01T14:13:23 < dongs> i dont have that retarded plug thats at the end of the bigger cable
2017-10-01T14:14:25 < zyp> as long as you're not exceeding current rating of thin cable
2017-10-01T14:15:44 < BrainDamage> soldering of braided wires is discouraged because of the capillary action that wicks away the solder, it's hard to make a reliable joint because they end up brittle and inflexible, howrever, if you preheat and use the hot air tool you should be ok provided you don't jerk that cable often
2017-10-01T14:16:12 < dongs> yeah i got it soaked in solder with a solder pot
2017-10-01T14:16:16 < dongs> thats not an issue
2017-10-01T14:16:20 < dongs> those braids are fucking full of solder
2017-10-01T14:16:58 < BrainDamage> then what zyp said
2017-10-01T14:17:56 < zyp> BrainDamage, pff, a normal decent solder iron should be able to solder it easily
2017-10-01T14:19:30 < Thorn> https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9IAAAOxyItRTch3A/s-l300.jpg
2017-10-01T14:19:35 < zyp> the inflexibleness is a risk for moving stuff though
2017-10-01T14:19:39 < Thorn> ^ use these
2017-10-01T14:20:28 < BrainDamage> zyp: 50W iron will struggle a bit, unless you don't consider 50W to be 'decent'
2017-10-01T14:23:04 < zyp> idk, my baseline for comparison is my 80W weller
2017-10-01T14:47:38 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/Jfi8hdm.jpg whats this
2017-10-01T14:47:47 < dongs> is that 2S2P
2017-10-01T14:48:52 < dongs> im too dumb to follow the wires
2017-10-01T14:51:28 < dongs> or 4S
2017-10-01T14:52:09 < sync> BrainDamage: my jbc pumps out 250W if need be
2017-10-01T14:52:14 < sync> I'd consider it decent
2017-10-01T14:53:11 < dongs> sync, youre good with this shit right
2017-10-01T14:57:10 < BrainDamage> dongs: 2s2p
2017-10-01T14:57:21 < sync> dongs: kinda?
2017-10-01T14:57:31 < sync> apc iirc is always 2s in that size
2017-10-01T14:58:04 < BrainDamage> batt 1 & 3 are in series, so is 2 & 4, then everything in parallel
2017-10-01T14:58:46 < dongs> ok so 2s2p then
2017-10-01T14:58:48 < sync> yeah looks like it
2017-10-01T14:58:51 < BrainDamage> if you draw the wiring on a piece of paper it's much easier to deconstruct btw
2017-10-01T15:00:31 < dongs> nice, shit is powered on
2017-10-01T15:00:41 < dongs> now i just need to get 8x of those cheap china batts to put in here
2017-10-01T15:01:10 < dongs> OK deal for $60 shipped
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2017-10-01T15:02:22 < Rob235> gooooood morning
2017-10-01T15:03:01 < sync> just be prepared to regularily replace the batteries
2017-10-01T15:03:06 < sync> apc is known for cooking them
2017-10-01T15:03:33 < dongs> how so, on purpose>
2017-10-01T15:03:35 < sync> especially with chinatrash batteries
2017-10-01T15:03:46 < sync> no, their charge control just sucks ass
2017-10-01T15:04:04 < dongs> lol how shitty do you have to do a fucking lead-acid charge control?
2017-10-01T15:04:15 < dongs> isnt it very simple
2017-10-01T15:05:28 < Steffanx> Also what is regularily? once/5 year?
2017-10-01T15:05:47 < sync> at the datacenter apcs failed like every 2 years
2017-10-01T15:05:50 < sync> complete shit
2017-10-01T15:05:56 < sync> switched everything over to siemens
2017-10-01T15:06:07 < dongs> semens
2017-10-01T15:06:13 < Steffanx> and how often do you run from the ups?
2017-10-01T15:06:19 < Steffanx> *battery
2017-10-01T15:06:42 < sync> once a year for testing
2017-10-01T15:06:54 < sync> but simens lasts around 6 years now
2017-10-01T15:06:57 < sync> with full runtime
2017-10-01T15:08:11 < dongs> ill stick to apc
2017-10-01T15:09:32 < sync> interestingly siemens is using 96Vbus
2017-10-01T15:11:16 < dongs> anyway, this thing is good to go
2017-10-01T15:11:21 < dongs> thanks for protips
2017-10-01T15:11:30 < dongs> i boosted it from my desk power supply for a second
2017-10-01T15:11:32 < dongs> just to let it power on
2017-10-01T15:11:35 < dongs> then it shorted the outputs out
2017-10-01T15:11:36 < dongs> hauehauehaueh
2017-10-01T15:12:37 < dongs>  this thing uses 55W just to idle
2017-10-01T15:12:39 < dongs> wtfak
2017-10-01T15:12:45 < dongs> what is it doing
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2017-10-01T15:33:38 < sync> charging the batteries to death
2017-10-01T15:33:41 < sync> and fapping off
2017-10-01T15:33:50 < sync> do they still have the huge fucking transformer in there?
2017-10-01T15:38:15 < Steffanx> german quality vs yankee quality..
2017-10-01T15:51:05 < dongs> sync, two
2017-10-01T15:51:11 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/2xSGH8Y.png
2017-10-01T15:51:16 < dongs> that thing is like 50kg
2017-10-01T15:51:18 < dongs> without batts
2017-10-01T15:52:16 < dongs> there's waht looks like a cerdip OTP mcu in mainboard
2017-10-01T15:52:22 < dongs> firmware label says "SMOKELESS VERSION"
2017-10-01T15:52:32 < sync> wat
2017-10-01T15:52:33 < dongs> i wonder if they mean it literally
2017-10-01T15:52:48 < sync> yeah, that is the classical apc design
2017-10-01T15:52:50 < sync> old as shit
2017-10-01T15:52:57 < dongs> sure
2017-10-01T15:53:04 < dongs> if it works why fuck with it
2017-10-01T15:53:05 < sync> wow they added battery monitoring
2017-10-01T15:53:19 < sync> because it is inefficient?
2017-10-01T15:53:28 < dongs> how bad?
2017-10-01T15:53:50 < dongs> is my electric bill gonna go up from it?
2017-10-01T15:53:50 < sync> I don't have numbers, but compared to others not so pro
2017-10-01T15:53:57 < sync> probably
2017-10-01T15:54:13 < dongs> this thing has no usb, sad
2017-10-01T15:54:21 < dongs> i might have to hunt down ethernet thing for it
2017-10-01T15:54:23 < dongs> for cheap
2017-10-01T15:56:25 < dongs> fucking
2017-10-01T15:56:27 < dongs> 10baseT
2017-10-01T15:57:16 < dongs> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q8sAAOSwLsBZUrpj/s-l1600.jpg
2017-10-01T15:57:17 < dongs> what the fuck
2017-10-01T15:57:29 < dongs> is that an actual 386 in there
2017-10-01T15:58:11 < dongs> o fuck, snaphat lithium battery
2017-10-01T15:58:20 < dongs> just like the shit in my ancient speana
2017-10-01T16:05:25 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/itm/222635990211? nice
2017-10-01T16:06:22 < dongs> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/YW0AAOSw-FZXkXkB/s-l1600.jpg
2017-10-01T16:06:23 < dongs> grosss
2017-10-01T16:06:28 < dongs> new version is atsam91 shit
2017-10-01T16:06:45 < dongs> hmm 2001 that should still work with my shit i guess
2017-10-01T16:07:33 < zyp> haha
2017-10-01T16:08:02 < dongs> oh not even atsam91
2017-10-01T16:08:11 < dongs> somt AT56753-1 which i cant find any references to
2017-10-01T16:08:16 < zyp> don't you get decent upses fairly cheap nowadays?
2017-10-01T16:08:26 < dongs> define cheap?
2017-10-01T16:08:34 < dongs> anything for 100V bought in japan is gonna be rapeysas fuck
2017-10-01T16:08:38 < Rob235> I'm having some trouble figuring out which margin/padding i'm trying to get rid of... https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/  if you click the Draw button on the top and you hover your mouse on the cow picture it gets cut off when it slides up. how do I figure out what is causing that?
2017-10-01T16:08:56 < zyp> cheap enough that it's pointless to dick around with obsolete shit
2017-10-01T16:09:03 < Rob235> ##stm32-css
2017-10-01T16:10:31 < dongs> zyp, http://kakaku.com/item/K0000588746/
2017-10-01T16:10:38 < dongs> i think noit
2017-10-01T16:10:41 < dongs> *not
2017-10-01T16:10:56 < dongs> i spent a total of $60+$100 for batts on this 3000VA thing.
2017-10-01T16:11:13 < dongs> thats like $3.2k or someshit new
2017-10-01T16:11:58 < Rob235> oh shit
2017-10-01T16:12:38 < dongs> i do need a desktop one for my PC, or maybe just new batteries in my current one. the fucking thing just fails to power on anything saying immediate overload
2017-10-01T16:14:30 < dongs> https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/901676-apc-overload-with-no-load/
2017-10-01T16:14:31 < dongs> great
2017-10-01T16:14:35 < dongs> that sounds exactly waht my shit is doing
2017-10-01T16:14:38 < dongs> last reply: rip
2017-10-01T16:18:50 < dongs> hey that turnign it off in battery replace mode thing worked
2017-10-01T16:19:48 < dongs> heh nope
2017-10-01T16:19:53 < dongs> 5W load = and back to overload
2017-10-01T16:19:57 < dongs> ok, so yeah, garbage'd
2017-10-01T16:20:03 < dongs> i paid real money for this fucking thing new
2017-10-01T16:20:30 < dongs> $200 in 2009
2017-10-01T16:20:53 < dongs> i guess i cant invoke my 5 year warranty on that thing now.
2017-10-01T16:22:03 < Steffanx> your overflow-y causes that, partially Rob235.
2017-10-01T16:22:23 < dongs> wow, actual css advice
2017-10-01T16:22:24 < Rob235> I think its the hamburger toggler row
2017-10-01T16:23:30 < Rob235> I got it to shrink, its still there but I think small enough that I can deal with it
2017-10-01T16:23:55 < Rob235> although the hamburger is off the screen now so I gotta fix that
2017-10-01T16:27:49 < Steffanx> You spend waaay toooo much time on this Rob235 :P
2017-10-01T16:28:03 < Rob235> meh
2017-10-01T16:29:13 < Steffanx> but its your time, not mine :)
2017-10-01T16:37:48 < dongs> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/etkAAOSwgv5ZVhoC/s-l1600.jpg
2017-10-01T16:38:02 < dongs> eventually APC just paid someone to custom label their chips
2017-10-01T16:38:36 < dongs> i spot a micrel phy
2017-10-01T16:38:48 < dongs> 48mhz, i wonder what arduino version is that
2017-10-01T16:39:03 < dongs> that 10 pin thing looks like it might be jtag
2017-10-01T16:39:53 < dongs> Shipping: $865.71 (approx. JPY 97,446) UPS Worldwide Expedited | See details
2017-10-01T16:39:57 < dongs> haha japs
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2017-10-01T18:30:25 < upgrdman> dongs> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/etkAAOSwgv5ZVhoC/s-l1600.jpg    looking at the footprints for the unpopulated RJ45's... are those pcb spark gaps to the left of the RJ45 pins?
2017-10-01T18:32:16 <@englishman> lol ISIS in edmonton
2017-10-01T18:32:24 <@englishman> more like: bored rural edgelords
2017-10-01T18:32:56 <@englishman> upgrdman yes those look like spark gaps
2017-10-01T18:32:58 <@englishman> not uncommon
2017-10-01T18:33:04 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-01T18:33:30 <@englishman> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/f4/7c/88/47/75/08/42/a8/DM00035396.pdf/files/DM00035396.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00035396.pdf
2017-10-01T18:33:32 <@englishman> 3.2
2017-10-01T18:34:05 <@englishman> etc.
2017-10-01T18:35:35 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-01T18:36:46 < vampi-the-frog> I don't like the look of that URL
2017-10-01T18:36:56 < vampi-the-frog> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/f4/7c/88/47/75/08/42/a8/DM00035396.
2017-10-01T18:36:56 < vampi-the-frog> pdf/files/DM00035396.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00035396.pdf
2017-10-01T18:36:59 < upgrdman> lol
2017-10-01T18:37:04 < vampi-the-frog> much better
2017-10-01T18:37:11 < upgrdman> needs moar homo
2017-10-01T18:37:13 < vampi-the-frog> albeit fragmented
2017-10-01T18:37:17 <@englishman> lol you reached line limit
2017-10-01T18:37:41 < vampi-the-frog> yes
2017-10-01T18:37:52 <@englishman> vampi did you know we are currently experiencing an asskey renaissance
2017-10-01T18:38:00 <@englishman> please join us in all 99 colours in ##ascii
2017-10-01T18:38:10 < vampi-the-frog> more like ass gay
2017-10-01T18:39:00 < vampi-the-frog> I'm sorry, that was rude of me.
2017-10-01T18:39:13 < vampi-the-frog> ASCII is fabulous!
2017-10-01T18:45:17 < vampi-the-frog> I'm just testing an IRC to HTML converter that I wrote, it works great
2017-10-01T18:46:44 < vampi-the-frog> http://ix.io/Az2
2017-10-01T18:48:56 < aandrew> written in an idiotic language, fail
2017-10-01T18:50:12 < vampi-the-frog> yeah?
2017-10-01T18:50:14 < vampi-the-frog> this is you
2017-10-01T18:50:17 < vampi-the-frog> this is what you sound like
2017-10-01T18:50:22 < vampi-the-frog> <aandrew> written in an idiotic language, fail
2017-10-01T18:50:27 < Fleck> :D
2017-10-01T18:50:31 < Fleck> +1 vampi-the-frog
2017-10-01T18:50:50 < aandrew> yes, that is exactly what I said. not sure what point you're trying to make
2017-10-01T18:51:22 < vampi-the-frog> you're free to translate it to a "better" language
2017-10-01T18:51:31 < vampi-the-frog> the "superior" language
2017-10-01T18:51:35 < vampi-the-frog> the programming language uber alles
2017-10-01T18:51:42 <@englishman> Holy C or gtfo
2017-10-01T18:52:00 < aandrew> englishman gets it
2017-10-01T18:52:06 < vampi-the-frog> why would you use C to translate IRC colors to HTML?
2017-10-01T18:52:10 < sync> pfft, typing opcodez into an hexeditor is where it is at
2017-10-01T18:52:11 < aandrew> vampi-the-frog: seriously, how are you going to use that code in an STM32
2017-10-01T18:52:26 < aandrew> any language not supported by CubeMX is useless
2017-10-01T18:52:32 < aandrew> by definition
2017-10-01T18:52:35 < vampi-the-frog> is this an attempt to steer the conversation back on channel topic?
2017-10-01T18:52:41 < vampi-the-frog> I must commend you if so.
2017-10-01T18:53:29 < aandrew> you win the prize, sir
2017-10-01T18:53:59 < vampi-the-frog> after all, STM32's are the superior microcontrollers uber alles
2017-10-01T18:54:12 < aandrew> absolutely
2017-10-01T18:54:17 < vampi-the-frog> and we should invade neighboring countries, I mean manufacturers
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2017-10-01T18:54:29 < vampi-the-frog> the STM32 reich will last a thousand years
2017-10-01T18:54:29 < aandrew> we shall wage jihad against the NXPs and the weak Nuvotons of the world
2017-10-01T18:55:30 < vampi-the-frog> oh btw who wants to help with an application that I'm making, related to USB descriptors?
2017-10-01T18:55:35 < aandrew> some will say "but sirs! are we all not of the same ISA? if you reset us, do we not pull SP and PC from the vector table?"
2017-10-01T18:55:53 < vampi-the-frog> hey aandrew 
2017-10-01T18:55:58 < vampi-the-frog> aandrew
2017-10-01T18:57:43 < aandrew> and I shall say "while this may be so, we are shaped by the licensee and through this shaping we are separate. Through the poor documentation of your vendors we draw our strength, and through solid distribution channels we prevail over you"
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2017-10-01T19:04:38 <@englishman> usb descriptors are on topic
2017-10-01T19:04:52 <@englishman> religions based on ISAs are on topic
2017-10-01T19:05:41 <@englishman> but your instruction and data busses have to have the same width
2017-10-01T19:05:42 <@englishman> or gtfo
2017-10-01T19:05:52 < aandrew> heh
2017-10-01T19:14:40 < vampi-the-frog> shut up for a second
2017-10-01T19:15:03 < vampi-the-frog> get this program http://ix.io/Az4
2017-10-01T19:15:16 < vampi-the-frog> and compile it like this:
2017-10-01T19:15:41 < vampi-the-frog> curl 'http://ix.io/Az4' > getdesc.c && gcc --std=c99 getdesc.c `pkg-config libusb-1.0 --libs --cflags` -o getdesc && sudo ./getdesc > send-to-vampi.json
2017-10-01T19:15:55 < vampi-the-frog> and before you do that, plug in as many usb devices as you can
2017-10-01T19:16:02 < vampi-the-frog> then send me the json file
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2017-10-01T19:23:02 < vampi-the-frog> it prints out the descriptors of all your devices, including the HID data and whatever else it can get
2017-10-01T19:23:11 < vampi-the-frog> but it needs root access
2017-10-01T19:25:58 < Steffanx> > windows
2017-10-01T19:27:12 < vampi-the-frog> thanks, I'll have a windows version at some point too
2017-10-01T19:27:59 < vampi-the-frog> maybe I can find someone to port it for me, cause I'd rather focus on the web stuff
2017-10-01T19:28:05 < vampi-the-frog> the descriptors go into a database
2017-10-01T19:29:50 < vampi-the-frog> I also need an macOS version that can get the HID data
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2017-10-01T19:41:23 < Laurenceb_> http://firstlightfusion.com/about/#board
2017-10-01T19:41:26 < Laurenceb_> dat boards
2017-10-01T19:42:51 < Steffanx> except for tldr; i see no issues
2017-10-01T19:44:30 < vampi-the-frog> Chu on this.
2017-10-01T19:44:41 < Steffanx> http://firstlightfusion.com/careers/#toppage you can join em
2017-10-01T19:44:48 < Laurenceb_> its the new Theranos
2017-10-01T19:45:47 < Laurenceb_> also Nick Hawker is a know irc shitposter
2017-10-01T19:45:56 < Laurenceb_> i know him from irl and irc
2017-10-01T19:46:05 < Laurenceb_> how the fuck did he pull this shit off
2017-10-01T19:48:26 < Steffanx> He moved on where you ended? :P
2017-10-01T19:48:52 < Laurenceb_> taking trolling into irl
2017-10-01T19:49:04 < Laurenceb_> Elizabeth Holmes style
2017-10-01T19:49:27 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Holmes top kek
2017-10-01T19:49:37 < Laurenceb_> an American entrepreneur and inventor
2017-10-01T19:49:41 < Laurenceb_> >American
2017-10-01T19:50:59 < Laurenceb_> reads liek 2070 Paradigm shift
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2017-10-01T19:56:12 < Shavik> What schematic symbol (letter) would you use for a voltage detector ic?
2017-10-01T19:57:05 < aandrew> Shavik: it's an IC: U
2017-10-01T19:57:31 < Shavik> ah fair enough. thanks
2017-10-01T19:57:42 < Steffanx> Yeah, as any other IC
2017-10-01T19:59:17 < Steffanx> You should have started a company out of your crapillary thingy Laurenceb_
2017-10-01T19:59:34 < Laurenceb_> heh already been done
2017-10-01T19:59:49 < Laurenceb_> but I refused to get involved in that shit
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2017-10-01T20:09:49 < aandrew> wtf is a crapillary thingy
2017-10-01T20:10:05 < Steffanx> his thesis project about capilary refill time soemthing
2017-10-01T20:10:13 < Steffanx> *capillary
2017-10-01T20:10:35 < Steffanx> aka CRT
2017-10-01T20:13:14 < Steffanx> dont you remember this arm crusher?
2017-10-01T20:24:15 < aandrew> huh never heard of this project
2017-10-01T20:26:00 < kakimir> we need a url bot
2017-10-01T20:27:34 < Laurenceb_> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitlers-Suppressed-Still-secret-Weapons-Technology/dp/1931882738
2017-10-01T20:28:02 < Laurenceb_> not actually my thesis but funnier
2017-10-01T20:28:44 < Laurenceb_> >destroy all life
2017-10-01T20:28:53 < aandrew> https://www.reddit.com/r/ImGoingToHellForThis/comments/73kudw/sorry_not_sorry/ hahahaha
2017-10-01T20:34:37 < Steffanx> white page is white aandrew
2017-10-01T20:34:44 < Steffanx> or empty page is empty
2017-10-01T20:35:12 < aandrew> Steffanx: try https://i.redd.it/empbzzu2z6pz.jpg
2017-10-01T20:35:34 < Steffanx> hmpf
2017-10-01T20:40:09 < Laurenceb_> ur mum
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2017-10-01T21:01:11 < invzim> stm32 has no fifo for usart?
2017-10-01T21:01:40 < invzim> as in, roll your own with dma/interrupts etc?
2017-10-01T21:01:45 < zyp> how deep must it be to qualify as a fifo?
2017-10-01T21:01:56 < invzim> 1 byte
2017-10-01T21:02:04 < invzim> maybe 2
2017-10-01T21:02:43 < zyp> counting how? the usarts are double buffered
2017-10-01T21:03:09 < zyp> there's the shift registers, and then there's read and write buffers too
2017-10-01T21:03:47 < zyp> i.e. TXE will assert as soon as the data is transferred from the write buffer to the shift register
2017-10-01T21:04:06 < invzim> it's the RX I'm looking at
2017-10-01T21:04:35 < invzim> playing with JVS stuff, and earlier code had a simple 'getbyte' function that pulled a byte out of the fifo
2017-10-01T21:04:52 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1R4yokEUZY
2017-10-01T21:04:54 < zyp> it's same in RX direction, while waiting for the software to respond to RXNE and read out the read buffer, the shift register is ready to handle another byte without overrunning
2017-10-01T21:05:23 < englishman> he's back :D
2017-10-01T21:05:47 < invzim> I'm using HAL of course, and things seem to be working OK
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2017-10-01T21:06:05 < invzim> but not knowing the underlying is a little unsettling
2017-10-01T21:06:41 < englishman> oh no its just a archive :(
2017-10-01T21:07:15 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/Cc99F <- here's my jvs code
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2017-10-01T21:32:44 < invzim> so you poll at a fast enough interval and pull out the data?
2017-10-01T21:32:59 < zyp> yes, process() is called from the main loop
2017-10-01T21:34:17 < invzim> I see a few other people have related questions on usart stuff like this
2017-10-01T21:34:58 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKfIaAIWkAAvDhW.jpg
2017-10-01T21:35:07 < invzim> this was easier on the pic, but on the upside the rs485 driver pin control thingie is nice with hal
2017-10-01T21:35:10 < Laurenceb_> zyp spotted irl
2017-10-01T21:36:53 < zyp> Laurenceb_, if you wanna spot me irl, I'm going to uk in about a month
2017-10-01T21:37:10  * Laurenceb_ hides in basement
2017-10-01T21:37:39 < zyp> like you did when stvn were visiting?
2017-10-01T21:37:53 < Laurenceb_> yup
2017-10-01T21:38:40 < zyp> aww
2017-10-01T21:39:41 < englishman> *actual* zip spotted https://i.imgur.com/7iTR0Ot.jpg
2017-10-01T21:39:56 < zyp> haha
2017-10-01T21:42:49 < aandrew> that's a great low impedance connection right there boys
2017-10-01T21:48:16 < zyp> contact grease?
2017-10-01T21:49:50 < zyp> idk, the only experience I have with that sort of stuff when I worked as an electrician were the large crimp connectors
2017-10-01T21:50:14 < zyp> and they came pre-greased, so you just pulled off the protective cap and put the conductor in
2017-10-01T21:52:03 < zyp> these connectors were for terminating couple-hundred amp mains cables to screw them on rails
2017-10-01T21:53:37 < zyp> https://onnshop.onninen.com/pimimg/images/NOEFO_64_16807_640x480.jpg <- this sort of shit
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2017-10-01T22:12:37 < sync> superbia1: that is a difficult question, some cleaners actually hurt performance in the long run
2017-10-01T22:13:23 < sync> I like to use pulmotin, which is cough rub, it contains camphor which will eat oxides
2017-10-01T22:14:57 < sync> yes
2017-10-01T22:19:11 < sync> ime it does not
2017-10-01T22:19:22 < sync> you don't need a lot as well
2017-10-01T22:19:30 < sync> and it smells nice
2017-10-01T22:21:33 < kakimir> waas
2017-10-01T22:21:50 < kakimir> you use medicine to electric gear
2017-10-01T22:21:53 < kakimir> and it works
2017-10-01T22:22:04 < sync> protip, don't use anything that contains silicone
2017-10-01T22:22:23 < kakimir> I use silicone for everything
2017-10-01T22:22:33 < kakimir> (newbuilds)
2017-10-01T22:22:53 < sync> that is pretty dumb if you lubricate anything that needs to conduct electricity with it
2017-10-01T22:23:39 < kakimir> surelly it will decrease it's performance
2017-10-01T22:24:21 < sync> the problem is what happens if you expose silicon to oxygen?
2017-10-01T22:24:28 < sync> especially at high temperatures
2017-10-01T22:25:00 < kakimir> char?
2017-10-01T22:25:31 < sync> no, notice the missing e at the end
2017-10-01T22:26:11 < sync> but yes, when contacts are arcing you will kill the silicone bonds and get Si, which will then form SiO2 on your contacts
2017-10-01T22:26:20 < sync> and glass coated contacts do not work very well
2017-10-01T22:26:43 < kakimir> interesting
2017-10-01T22:28:02 < kakimir> but if there is plenty of contact and low currents it's okay to use silicone?
2017-10-01T22:29:03 < sync> no
2017-10-01T22:29:09 < sync> it is never ok to ue silicone
2017-10-01T22:29:30 < sync> as it will also creep along everywhere over time
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2017-10-01T22:30:34 < kakimir> why there is some connectors that have plenty of silicone in them right out of factory?
2017-10-01T22:30:55 < kakimir> I assume it's silicone
2017-10-01T22:31:05 < sync> yes, don't assume
2017-10-01T22:31:16 < sync> there are plenty of dielectric greases that are not silicone
2017-10-01T22:31:17 < kakimir> looks same.. maybe slightly blue
2017-10-01T22:31:41 < kakimir> blue cloudy looking
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2017-10-01T22:32:21 < kakimir> where to get such stuff then sync?
2017-10-01T22:32:36 < sync> which?
2017-10-01T22:33:11 < kakimir> some generic dielectric grease
2017-10-01T22:34:33 < sync> that is not dielectric grease tho, you can apply it directly to the contacts
2017-10-01T22:44:48 < Steffanx> ranewen would have known.
2017-10-01T22:44:52 < Steffanx> Sorry, ill stop that :P
2017-10-01T22:45:22 < Laurenceb_> https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uCY-N7ZqtnQC&pg=PT322&lpg=PT322&dq=cavity+shockwave+fusion&source=bl&ots=9CqrM0kWY_&sig=MZvnpSDL7Y3sdL2dOZaBOgaVldw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-3tydl9DWAhVDLsAKHQP-DS4Q6AEIWzAK#v=onepage&q=cavity%20shockwave%20fusion&f=false
2017-10-01T22:45:26 < Laurenceb_> wtf am i reading
2017-10-01T22:47:27 < Laurenceb_> >til the weird oxford 'fusion' startup is actually neo-nazis
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2017-10-02T01:07:57 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/mzz2hame97pz.jpg
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2017-10-02T01:21:30 < BrainDamage> kakimir: 1500something
2017-10-02T01:26:58 < Laurenceb_> ssment includes
2017-10-02T01:26:58 < Laurenceb_> but is not limited to inappropriate or intimidating behavior and language,
2017-10-02T01:26:58 < Laurenceb_> unwelcome jokes or comments, unwanted touching or attention, offensive images,
2017-10-02T01:27:03 < Laurenceb_> I'm in jail
2017-10-02T01:31:36 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/72wvda/the_very_latest_data_on_the_woodward_mega_drive/
2017-10-02T01:31:44 < Laurenceb_> > literally a mega drive
2017-10-02T01:32:26 < Laurenceb_> >pdf over 9 gorillion megabytes
2017-10-02T01:32:35 < Laurenceb_> >obvious troll is obvious
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2017-10-02T01:36:12 < Laurenceb_> holy shit dat author list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLs9NEt9LRQ&feature=youtu.be
2017-10-02T01:36:24 < Laurenceb_> all the trolls from freenode
2017-10-02T01:36:59 < BrainDamage> are you feeling excluded? perhaps you could publish a paper yourself
2017-10-02T01:37:10 < BrainDamage> scamdrive
2017-10-02T01:39:05 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2017-10-02T01:40:26 < englishman> MAGA device
2017-10-02T02:00:05 < Laurenceb_> I can't work out if Heidi is male or female
2017-10-02T02:00:19 < Laurenceb_> whatever they are is 100% troll
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2017-10-02T02:05:54 < englishman> i have reprogrammed the picknplace https://i.imgur.com/bd7Wzwa.gifv
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2017-10-02T02:29:27 < stvn> welcome englishman
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2017-10-02T03:37:00 < stvn> well
2017-10-02T03:48:57 < dongs> <@englishman> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/f4/7c/88/47/75/08/42/a8/DM00035396.pdf/files/DM00035396.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00035396.pdf
2017-10-02T03:49:03 < dongs> wtf ive never seen that link
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2017-10-02T03:56:46 < englishman> stvn
2017-10-02T03:56:51 < englishman> englishman> i have reprogrammed the picknplace https://i.imgur.com/bd7Wzwa.gifv
2017-10-02T03:59:10 < aandrew> that'd be incredible if you could get that to loop perfectly
2017-10-02T04:00:54 < aandrew> damn
2017-10-02T04:01:08 < aandrew> FR4 breakdown voltage at 28kV/mm
2017-10-02T04:01:35 < aandrew> long story short: keep the touch sensors on the inner layers, use copper keepouts on surface
2017-10-02T04:01:50 < stvn> greeting
2017-10-02T04:02:09 < aandrew> long story shorter: cover the sensing area with kapton
2017-10-02T04:02:25 < stvn> englishman: good one there
2017-10-02T04:03:00 < dongs> http://icelandmag.visir.is/article/photos-video-3d-crosswalk-isafjordur-helps-slow-down-speeding-motorists
2017-10-02T04:03:04 < dongs> icelandic trolls
2017-10-02T04:07:17 < upgrdman> https://streamable.com/cb0et
2017-10-02T04:11:16 < dongs> shitpost monday is it
2017-10-02T04:12:06 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/pKSs0UW.jpg
2017-10-02T04:12:16 < upgrdman> taking "shitpost" literally
2017-10-02T04:16:14 < aandrew> https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/73m221/man_gets_electrocuted_changing_a_light_bulb/ <-- found upgrdman
2017-10-02T04:16:45 < upgrdman> ok serious question: anyone know of luggage that can double as a chair? e.g. strong enough to sit on, and roll it around while sitting on it.
2017-10-02T04:17:03 < upgrdman> because im a lazy american and hate to stand while waiting in long ass lines at airports
2017-10-02T04:19:09 < upgrdman> aandrew, nice
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2017-10-02T04:23:23 < stvn> pumper of the opera
2017-10-02T04:24:25 < sync> aandrew: having an esd issue?
2017-10-02T04:24:33 < stvn> G
2017-10-02T04:26:04 < stvn> littelfuse
2017-10-02T04:26:13 < sync> > a speed limit of 30 kmh (18.6 mph) is simply too high
2017-10-02T04:26:26 < sync> looks like a perfect 50kmh street to me
2017-10-02T04:27:20 < aandrew> sync: not me
2017-10-02T04:27:32 < sync> well, your product
2017-10-02T04:27:37 < stvn> in austraya it used to be 60
2017-10-02T04:27:51 < stvn> but the latest generation of drug addict's children couldnt hack it
2017-10-02T04:28:20 < aandrew> sync: nope, just commenting on the link dongs copypasta'd of englishman's
2017-10-02T04:28:24 < sync> ah
2017-10-02T04:28:39 < sync> I did not scroll up far enough
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2017-10-02T05:19:18 < stvn> the semantics
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2017-10-02T06:18:56 < englishman> upgrdman confirmed as massive hamplanet american
2017-10-02T06:19:04 < englishman> this assembly is going really well
2017-10-02T06:19:12 < englishman> mostly due to new stencil printer not sucking dick
2017-10-02T06:35:34 < stvn> 2 hours of pumping and its the mic preamp
2017-10-02T06:38:23 < englishman> https://www.apple.com/shop/product/HLJV2ZM/A/
2017-10-02T06:38:45 < stvn>  \o/
2017-10-02T06:38:58 < stvn> top tier innovation
2017-10-02T06:41:36 < stvn> nigger shorted me -15v
2017-10-02T06:42:56 < stvn> well d1515 to be precise
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2017-10-02T09:37:53 < dongs> yeah ive been assembling all morning as well
2017-10-02T09:37:58 < dongs> trying to catch up with shit before im gone for 2 weeks
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2017-10-02T09:41:09 < emeb_mac> attn dongs: https://twitter.com/MajorMcDoom/status/898556657596116993
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2017-10-02T09:51:27 < dongs> lol, dongs
2017-10-02T09:51:59 < englishman> who enjoyed teh las vegas machine gun experience
2017-10-02T09:54:17 < englishman> https://youtu.be/-V68M3D6s40
2017-10-02T09:56:50 < sync> lotsa boolits
2017-10-02T10:01:55 < englishman> https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvEsknBxYX/
2017-10-02T10:07:07 < dongs> haha
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2017-10-02T10:46:19 < stvn> greetings naffets
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2017-10-02T12:02:20 < ohsix> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/10/linux-marketshare-6-91-percent-september-2017
2017-10-02T12:05:49 < stvn> nigger markey
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2017-10-02T12:38:54 < tomeaton17> Would it be worth switching from HAL to something else due to size limitations?>
2017-10-02T12:42:42 < dongs> yes, i switched to LL
2017-10-02T12:43:01 < dongs> depending how much you like opensores aids you may try something like libopencm3
2017-10-02T12:45:48 < Steffanx> Lol another L(o)L lib fan
2017-10-02T12:46:01 < dongs> i personally cant stand more than a folder or two in a project/lib for no reason
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2017-10-02T12:47:17 < stvn> nigger nigger nigge
2017-10-02T12:47:24 < stvn> who gunna pull da trig
2017-10-02T12:47:30 < stvn> white black it don't matter
2017-10-02T12:47:38 < stvn> as long as their brains fuckkin splatter
2017-10-02T12:48:41 < dongs> seems someone did just that in la
2017-10-02T12:48:48 < stvn> ^
2017-10-02T12:54:27 < stvn> hmmmmm
2017-10-02T12:54:31 < stvn> any circuit boards today?
2017-10-02T12:54:57 < dongs> yeah , a bunch
2017-10-02T12:55:00 < dongs> that arent fitting into encosures
2017-10-02T12:55:09 < dongs> new batch of boards is tiny bit thicker
2017-10-02T12:55:25 < stvn> hmm the thickness
2017-10-02T12:55:39 < stvn> what are the enclosures made of?
2017-10-02T12:56:33 < dongs> aluminum
2017-10-02T12:56:39 < stvn> hell yeah
2017-10-02T12:57:23 < stvn> fucking CNC machines though
2017-10-02T12:57:45 < stvn> some fucker wants their $7,000 board fixed
2017-10-02T12:57:53 < dongs> enclosure tolerances are fine
2017-10-02T12:57:55 < dongs> its the pcb thats shit
2017-10-02T12:58:04 < stvn> yeah you were saying
2017-10-02T12:58:59 < dongs> and its raiining
2017-10-02T12:59:13 < dongs> and rain keeps fucking disconnecting my satellite radio jpop stream
2017-10-02T12:59:15 < dongs> rage all around
2017-10-02T12:59:18 < stvn> ah yes
2017-10-02T12:59:20 < stvn> the weather
2017-10-02T12:59:47 < stvn> what will i do with the jewing hall
2017-10-02T13:00:24 < stvn> RPD-564
2017-10-02T13:00:40 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/RML3erh.jpg
2017-10-02T13:01:14 < dongs> that shit
2017-10-02T13:01:21 < stvn> yah
2017-10-02T13:01:29 < dongs> whjat do tehy want
2017-10-02T13:01:34 < stvn> got 32 fets for a '4-axis' cnc piece of shit
2017-10-02T13:01:36 < dongs> use that to auto-dj?
2017-10-02T13:01:40 < stvn> n
2017-10-02T13:01:50 < stvn> some type of cnc application
2017-10-02T13:01:59 < stvn> probably milling giant penises
2017-10-02T13:02:17 < dongs> phallic probability: 100%$
2017-10-02T13:02:31 < stvn> ^
2017-10-02T13:02:34 < stvn> cuntclone
2017-10-02T13:02:52 < stvn> tbh i don't give a single iota about this piece of garbage
2017-10-02T13:02:58 < stvn> i didn't sell it to them
2017-10-02T13:04:20 < stvn> which project should i do
2017-10-02T13:04:36 < dongs> team up wiht o6
2017-10-02T13:04:40 < stvn> nty
2017-10-02T13:04:50 < dongs> the ultimate project completer
2017-10-02T13:04:54 < stvn> yes mate
2017-10-02T13:05:27 < stvn> i did analyse the amplifier from toilet
2017-10-02T13:05:58 < stvn> piece a fucken shiiiiiet
2017-10-02T13:06:36 < stvn> dongs, do you know much about pfc preregulators
2017-10-02T13:07:53 < dongs> fck no
2017-10-02T13:07:55 < dongs> i dont even know what it is
2017-10-02T13:08:27 < stvn> power factor correction?
2017-10-02T13:08:32 < dongs> yeah thats where it ends
2017-10-02T13:08:35 < stvn> i see
2017-10-02T13:08:58 < dongs> and i know W = VA*PF
2017-10-02T13:09:00 < dongs> thats all
2017-10-02T13:09:12 < stvn> ah that old girl
2017-10-02T13:10:08 < stvn> i need to make an 8 channel amplifier
2017-10-02T13:10:20 < dongs> the screws for this enclosure are packed individually in a plastic baggie
2017-10-02T13:10:25 < stvn> well
2017-10-02T13:10:26 < dongs> wiht hand-cut label M2.6x14
2017-10-02T13:10:29 < stvn> aint that something special
2017-10-02T13:10:32 < dongs> on a piece of paper
2017-10-02T13:10:33 < stvn> wtf is m2.6
2017-10-02T13:10:43 < dongs> 0.1 larger than M2.5
2017-10-02T13:10:50 < stvn> hmmmm
2017-10-02T13:10:54 < dongs> 0.4 smaller than M3
2017-10-02T13:11:14 < stvn> you know how they say m3 x 0.5 which apparently refers to the thread depth
2017-10-02T13:11:19 < stvn> y/n
2017-10-02T13:11:35 < dongs> no, i only use standard M3
2017-10-02T13:11:39 < stvn> mmmh
2017-10-02T13:11:45 < stvn> they all fit for me
2017-10-02T13:12:01 < stvn> pioneer m3 are good
2017-10-02T13:12:17 < stvn> 80 mm depth
2017-10-02T13:12:19 < stvn> countersun
2017-10-02T13:12:21 < stvn> k
2017-10-02T13:14:25 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/dfEoyz7.png
2017-10-02T13:14:49 < dongs> the M2.6 note is definitely hand-cut
2017-10-02T13:14:51 < stvn> CCZ30P060FTB
2017-10-02T13:15:22 < stvn> don't look like machine screws dyde
2017-10-02T13:15:24 < dongs> some jap sit there and cut A4 sheet into tiny fucking pieces and stick it into every baggie
2017-10-02T13:15:31 < stvn> seen that
2017-10-02T13:15:50 < stvn> https://static.bax-shop.es/image/product/344540/1021356/ed3b79ee/200x200/1494679461Pioneer_BCZ30P080FTB.png
2017-10-02T13:15:56 < stvn> senpai's gear
2017-10-02T13:16:22 < stvn> buttonhead m3 80mm
2017-10-02T13:17:03 < stvn> CCZ30P080FTB is my standard dog
2017-10-02T13:17:33 < stvn> i should get all my screws in torx security bits
2017-10-02T13:18:20 < dongs> i do that for some of my enclosures
2017-10-02T13:18:29 < dongs> japs can provide torx head for these
2017-10-02T13:18:33 < stvn> nice
2017-10-02T13:18:59 < stvn> i had a $120,000 mixing desk in the shop
2017-10-02T13:19:16 < stvn> some nigger had munted all the screws and smeared some filth glue all over the connectors
2017-10-02T13:19:17 < dongs> did you mix some jizz into it
2017-10-02T13:19:26 < stvn> lol
2017-10-02T13:19:38 < stvn> i had to replace a lot of connectors and looms
2017-10-02T13:20:03 < stvn> manufacturers of pro gear don't like the dogs tinkering
2017-10-02T13:20:46 < stvn> good engineers in those particular companies
2017-10-02T13:20:47 < stvn> for sure
2017-10-02T13:22:49 < dongs> shuffle on this station is awful
2017-10-02T13:22:55 < dongs> ive ben listening all day and i hear repeats all over
2017-10-02T13:22:55 < dongs> ugh
2017-10-02T13:23:11 < stvn> oh
2017-10-02T13:23:22 < dongs> and people pay for thi sshit'
2017-10-02T13:23:32 < stvn> have to wonder
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2017-10-02T13:42:51 < dongs> BREAKING: Las Vegas shooter, who killed over 20 people and injured over 100, identified as a white 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, police sources say.
2017-10-02T13:42:55 < dongs> RIP stvn
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2017-10-02T13:46:41 < Steffanx> Hes a steven
2017-10-02T13:47:01 < dongs> so this guyt is more closer to RIP Steffan
2017-10-02T13:47:32 < Steffanx> More like trigger happy R2COM
2017-10-02T13:47:37 < dongs> haha
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2017-10-02T15:15:46 < karlp> sent the poles an email about api spec.  Got an email 15minutes later with documentation and cc'd my colleague
2017-10-02T15:15:52 < karlp> fuck china, I think we're buying polish
2017-10-02T15:16:22 < dongs> poles are rubbing their hands together <look we sold this shit at 200% markup to a dumb icelander>
2017-10-02T15:16:28 < dongs> this shit = this chinese shit
2017-10-02T15:16:49 < karlp> don't think so in this case.
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2017-10-02T16:07:43 < englishman> wait til you discover Estonian brogrammers
2017-10-02T16:08:29 < dongs> mini jadews
2017-10-02T16:09:24 < dongs> everyone's wrtiting a text editor, just for FUN
2017-10-02T16:10:08 < qyx> whos writing a text editor?
2017-10-02T16:10:13 < dongs> judew
2017-10-02T16:10:16 < dongs> or HTML editor
2017-10-02T16:10:17 < dongs> or someshit
2017-10-02T16:10:23 < dongs> something utterly useless
2017-10-02T16:10:36 < qyx> ok, not interested
2017-10-02T16:10:59 < qyx> although, recently I was searching for an editor to embed it into a firmware
2017-10-02T16:11:09 < dongs> choose emacs
2017-10-02T16:11:15 < qyx> something reasonably portable I mean
2017-10-02T16:11:23 < qyx> to run it over an usart
2017-10-02T16:11:26 < dongs> pretty sure emacs runs on netbsd
2017-10-02T16:11:32 < dongs> or vax
2017-10-02T16:11:33 < qyx> fuck bsd
2017-10-02T16:12:01 < qyx> I found one
2017-10-02T16:12:17 < qyx> I think it was extracted from an OS called sanOS
2017-10-02T16:12:37 < qyx> apparently it was written by a guy with too much free time
2017-10-02T16:15:13 < englishman> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e5c_1506930342
2017-10-02T16:17:37 < karlp> this shit? http://www.jbox.dk/sanos/
2017-10-02T16:18:58 < qyx> karlp: yes, this one http://www.jbox.dk/sanos/editor.htm
2017-10-02T16:24:20 < qyx> is anyone able to explain me this? https://i.imgur.com/8XXyzCC.png
2017-10-02T16:31:20 < dongs> 35V going to VSYS
2017-10-02T16:32:05 < dongs> oh wait no
2017-10-02T16:32:16 < dongs> there's M3
2017-10-02T16:32:29 < qyx> yes, 35V is going to the IC
2017-10-02T16:32:30 < englishman> qyx: no https://i.imgur.com/nJpbP44.png
2017-10-02T16:32:34 < qyx> but I don't get the shorted cap
2017-10-02T16:32:49 < qyx> wat
2017-10-02T16:32:50 < englishman> how old of a datasheet do you have
2017-10-02T16:32:59 < dongs> lmao
2017-10-02T16:33:09 < englishman> B 04/17 Update Typical Application schematic.
2017-10-02T16:33:12 < dongs> about qyx: downloadin' datasheets from datasheetcatalog.com
2017-10-02T16:33:16 < dongs> like a boss
2017-10-02T16:33:22 < englishman> totes
2017-10-02T16:33:50 < qyx> englishman: see the end
2017-10-02T16:34:03 < qyx> page 72
2017-10-02T16:34:09 < englishman> ah yeah its ther page 76
2017-10-02T16:34:10 < englishman> lol
2017-10-02T16:34:24 < dongs> why you even looking at LTC shit
2017-10-02T16:34:30 < dongs> $$$ as shit, and cant buy in china
2017-10-02T16:34:46 < englishman> brb, buying $ADI puts
2017-10-02T16:34:50 < englishman> pff
2017-10-02T16:34:53 < englishman> LTC is pro as fuck
2017-10-02T16:35:20 < qyx> because it is the saniest sync charger with mppt and i2c, fully programmable
2017-10-02T16:35:29 < englishman> especially if you like HUGE chips with a ton of external passives
2017-10-02T16:35:37 < qyx> that too
2017-10-02T16:35:42 < englishman> i think this is in a project i have
2017-10-02T16:36:40 < englishman> yep 4015
2017-10-02T16:36:46 < englishman> not using mppt tho
2017-10-02T16:37:27 < englishman> and the cap IS there
2017-10-02T16:37:39 < qyx> lol
2017-10-02T16:37:52 < englishman> ah
2017-10-02T16:38:01 < englishman> because CLP/CLN connectors are low current
2017-10-02T16:38:50 < qyx> but thats not the reason for shorting the cap with a trace
2017-10-02T16:39:46 < qyx> might be a bypass cap
2017-10-02T16:39:49 < qyx> there should be one
2017-10-02T16:40:23 < englishman> uh well i think these guys copypasted
2017-10-02T16:40:30 < englishman> because they also put "0R 1%" resistors
2017-10-02T16:40:47 < qyx> such precise bridges
2017-10-02T16:41:08 < englishman> no other decoupling on that pin
2017-10-02T16:41:26 < qyx> does it work for you?
2017-10-02T16:42:15 < englishman> yes
2017-10-02T16:42:29 < qyx> ok, decoupling is useless, I'll arduino it out
2017-10-02T16:42:30 < dongs> doesnt that thing need like 20 external parts
2017-10-02T16:42:34 < englishman> of course
2017-10-02T16:42:36 < englishman> like all LTC parts
2017-10-02T16:42:50 < englishman> except the switchers with internal inductor
2017-10-02T16:42:53 < englishman> then its the opposite
2017-10-02T16:47:08 < englishman> hmm
2017-10-02T16:47:18 < englishman> CLP. CLN to SYS is max 0.3V
2017-10-02T16:47:46 < qyx> yes
2017-10-02T16:51:42 < tpw_rules> are there any drop in replacements for STM32L051C8
2017-10-02T16:52:25 < dongs> should be any in that series?
2017-10-02T16:52:31 < dongs> oh L hm
2017-10-02T16:52:38 < dongs> is that the one with real eepropm
2017-10-02T16:52:40 < dongs> and weird lcd controller?
2017-10-02T16:52:50 < tpw_rules> no lcd, yes eeprom?
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2017-10-02T16:53:00 < tpw_rules> but like all distributors are out of stock of that one
2017-10-02T16:53:06 < dongs> that shit's EOL
2017-10-02T16:53:06 < tpw_rules> and i kind of need a lot
2017-10-02T16:53:07 < dongs> thats why
2017-10-02T16:53:12 < tpw_rules> says whom
2017-10-02T16:53:12 < dongs> why the shit did you design that in
2017-10-02T16:53:19 < dongs> my ST fae like half a year ago
2017-10-02T16:53:27 < tpw_rules> what
2017-10-02T16:53:28 < dongs> they do not recommend STM32L0 for any new designs
2017-10-02T16:53:54 < dongs> L052 should fit but will be more expensive?
2017-10-02T16:53:55 < tpw_rules> lol they're not very forthcoming about htat
2017-10-02T16:54:02 < dongs> why the shit did you choose a L0?
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2017-10-02T16:54:12 < dongs> did you need the real eeprom?
2017-10-02T16:54:32 < dongs> they recommend L4 to replace L0, but that loses eeprom
2017-10-02T16:54:38 < tpw_rules> who does
2017-10-02T16:54:38 < dongs> otherwise 411 or 3xx stuff
2017-10-02T16:54:41 < tpw_rules> i can't find it on their website
2017-10-02T16:54:58 < dongs> you wont
2017-10-02T16:55:22 < dongs> you can just tell your boss dongs on irc told ya
2017-10-02T16:55:33 < dongs> or you can redphone to your ST guy and ask him honestly
2017-10-02T16:56:01 < dongs> i got F401 in a battery powered thing down to some uA current wehn sleeping
2017-10-02T16:56:09 < dongs> its not much worse than L0
2017-10-02T16:56:17 < dongs> infact better in some places
2017-10-02T16:56:39 < tpw_rules> i mean i chose L0 cause i didn't need an M4 with hardware float
2017-10-02T16:56:58 < dongs> but did you look at prices or availabiltiy
2017-10-02T16:57:10 < tpw_rules> yeah, and they were all great a month ago
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2017-10-02T16:57:22 < sync> I hope the H7 shit is on the market relatively soon
2017-10-02T16:57:25 < dongs> did you see if you can buy 052 yet?
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2017-10-02T16:57:39 < dongs> or 152 or 151
2017-10-02T16:57:51 < tpw_rules> i mean this is a new design so if you're right we should respin for L4
2017-10-02T16:57:52 < dongs> those are the only compatibles unless they managed to keep pin compatibility wider with other stuff
2017-10-02T16:57:58 < dongs> you definitely should
2017-10-02T16:58:08 < dongs> thats their recommended replacement if you insist on L-series.
2017-10-02T17:00:56 < tpw_rules> i don't have a guy at ST
2017-10-02T17:02:10 < dongs> get one at avnet or arrow
2017-10-02T17:02:23 < dongs> they can usually advice something decent or forward you to st
2017-10-02T17:02:37 < dongs> it usually helps if you are buying a bunch of shit from them too
2017-10-02T17:02:49 < tpw_rules> well i was about to
2017-10-02T17:02:55 < tpw_rules> up until yesterday afternoon
2017-10-02T17:05:41 < tpw_rules> WELP
2017-10-02T17:10:55 < tpw_rules> looking at what's available on digikey the LQFP48 L4s are twice the cost and more out of stock
2017-10-02T17:13:05 < tpw_rules> L051s were also quite easy to source
2017-10-02T17:15:49 < dongs> well, avnet has 2.4k if you need them
2017-10-02T17:16:00 < tpw_rules> yeah i can buy a whole reel
2017-10-02T17:17:13 < tpw_rules> there's no way to get an fae without buying 100k is there
2017-10-02T17:18:22 < dongs> how many do you need?
2017-10-02T17:18:24 < dongs> 700 at verical
2017-10-02T17:18:32 < dongs> for $1.8-ish
2017-10-02T17:18:33 < tpw_rules> yeah i found some
2017-10-02T17:18:36 < dongs> and they take paypal
2017-10-02T17:18:39 < tpw_rules> i need 500 or so
2017-10-02T17:18:46 < dongs> go for verical then
2017-10-02T17:18:52 < tpw_rules> but last i checked like everyone had > 2k
2017-10-02T17:18:56 < dongs> its allow's ghetto branch
2017-10-02T17:19:00 < tpw_rules> but like if they're EOL, i should redesign, no?
2017-10-02T17:19:09 < dongs> i would
2017-10-02T17:19:31 < tpw_rules> or maybe just get the ones i need and push off a redesign til later
2017-10-02T17:19:35 < dongs> like i saidm, we were gonna do production wiht L0 a while back and they advised against it
2017-10-02T17:19:53 < tpw_rules> is there any way to get access to these people without buying 100k units
2017-10-02T17:19:53 < karlp> wasn't that l1?
2017-10-02T17:20:22 < tpw_rules> yeah the l1 looks rather worse than the l0 and l4
2017-10-02T17:20:35 < dongs> oh, shiet yeah karlp urrite
2017-10-02T17:20:39 < dongs> it was L151
2017-10-02T17:20:41 < dongs> thats ded
2017-10-02T17:20:44 < dongs> sorry tpw_rules
2017-10-02T17:20:52 < dongs> L0 still good to go
2017-10-02T17:21:07 < tpw_rules> can you do me the most biggest favor in the world and ask your dude if that's still true
2017-10-02T17:21:31 < tpw_rules> for like 2 yrs
2017-10-02T17:22:16 < qyx> I was about to ask when did L0 get old
2017-10-02T17:22:34 < dongs> ok left a message in chat, tomrorow one of the jews will get back to me
2017-10-02T17:22:55 < tpw_rules> thanks so much. i had some heart attacks
2017-10-02T17:23:34 < karlp> (l05x looks to be dead too, IMO)
2017-10-02T17:23:47 < karlp> also, not all of l1 can be dead, because they released the -A parts there.
2017-10-02T17:23:57 < karlp> so yeah, L151c6t6 => dead,
2017-10-02T17:24:03 < karlp> l151c6t6-a => good to go
2017-10-02T17:24:04 < dongs> whats -A?
2017-10-02T17:24:11 < karlp> "different" errata :)
2017-10-02T17:24:26 < karlp> eeprom endurance down, usb pullups fixed, more ram.
2017-10-02T17:32:46 < tpw_rules> well i'm aiming for stm32l051c8
2017-10-02T17:33:08 < tpw_rules> what makes you estimate them as dead?
2017-10-02T17:34:12 < karlp> they were the "compat with l151, but smaller" series
2017-10-02T17:35:22 < tpw_rules> they look to be better than them though
2017-10-02T17:44:33 < dongs> fuck
2017-10-02T17:44:41 < dongs> trashed my jewpad mini 7.9 panel while testing adapter cables
2017-10-02T17:44:47 < dongs> that shit's $65
2017-10-02T17:45:00 < englishman> dongs, im pro as fuck dicknplacer now, placed my first tray last nite, and 32mm reels
2017-10-02T17:45:05 < englishman> im so pro i need to buy new feeders
2017-10-02T17:45:10 < dongs> nice
2017-10-02T17:45:23 < dongs> yeah i got enough feeders to have all the common parts on them now
2017-10-02T17:45:28 < dongs> so to load a new project I just shuffle them around
2017-10-02T17:45:33 < englishman> thos 24mm and 32mm add up fast
2017-10-02T17:45:35 < englishman> yes
2017-10-02T17:45:43 < englishman> im running out of those 2mm pitch feeders
2017-10-02T17:45:44 < dongs> and any new ones, i just load htem in based on the existing order
2017-10-02T17:45:47 < dongs> so i dont have to shuffle even more
2017-10-02T17:45:55 < englishman> because they are full of 0.1u / 10k etc
2017-10-02T17:46:15 < englishman> even placed them closest to the camera so they get picked fastest
2017-10-02T17:46:33 < dongs> rite
2017-10-02T17:46:40 < englishman> too bad the chinksoftware is so shit, id be 2x as fast
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2017-10-02T18:31:05 < qyx> englishman: what monitor & balancer do you use with that ltc4015?
2017-10-02T18:31:25 < englishman> P I C 1 6
2017-10-02T18:31:30 < englishman> no balancer
2017-10-02T18:31:31 < qyx> I am about to use LTC6802 and LTC3300
2017-10-02T18:31:35 < qyx> ah
2017-10-02T18:33:53 < englishman> legit panasonic 18650s in 3s4p, the pack mfgr actually suggested no balancer was needed
2017-10-02T18:33:55 < englishman> which surprised me but ok
2017-10-02T18:34:01 < englishman> they are pretty high quality batts
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2017-10-02T18:37:08 < qyx> I'll use lifepo4 for higher charge/discahrge cycle count, balancing shouldn't be needed too
2017-10-02T18:38:53 < qyx> probably I'll prepare pcb for the balancer just in case it is needed
2017-10-02T18:42:49 < bvernoux> Does anyone have played with the STM32H7 ?
2017-10-02T18:42:56 < bvernoux> just to have feedback
2017-10-02T18:43:33 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_bomb
2017-10-02T18:52:40 < Steffanx> Someone here mentioned it here, dont remember who it was bvernoux
2017-10-02T18:52:47 < Steffanx> Had some discovery
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2017-10-02T19:49:44 < ReadErr> http://pc.textmod.es/pack/duodaughters3/view/tgah-islam-forksomepork.ans.png?cache=1
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2017-10-02T19:54:25 < Steffanx> hah, i can check quite a few too ReadErr
2017-10-02T19:55:02 < ReadErr> duckduckgo?
2017-10-02T19:55:10 < Steffanx> no
2017-10-02T19:55:27 < ReadErr> what a horrible engine
2017-10-02T19:57:46 < Steffanx> How comes "uses irc" is not in the list ReadErr?
2017-10-02T19:58:35 < ReadErr> more into /g/ and memes
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2017-10-02T20:48:22 < englishman> the haircut and tiny legs
2017-10-02T20:48:29 < englishman> its like someone was working with a picture of laurent
2017-10-02T20:51:15 < bvernoux> Steffanx, ok I was thinking there was some guys using latest STM32 MCU here ;)
2017-10-02T20:51:47 < BrainDamage> the glass frames is wrong
2017-10-02T20:52:06 < BrainDamage> also, should be a shirt, not a t-shirt
2017-10-02T20:52:48 < Steffanx> And a Tie.
2017-10-02T20:53:05 < Steffanx> I only know him with a tie.
2017-10-02T20:54:37 < emeb> bvernoux: AFAICT the H7 parts and devboards are not in general distribution yet.
2017-10-02T20:54:54 < bvernoux> emeb, it depends for who ;)
2017-10-02T20:55:08 < emeb> bvernoux: see above "general distribution"
2017-10-02T20:55:11 < bvernoux> but yes it is a bit too early
2017-10-02T20:55:23 < emeb> having a connection at the factory is not "general"
2017-10-02T20:55:29 < bvernoux> yes ;)
2017-10-02T20:55:37 < bvernoux> anyway I do not even have asked one
2017-10-02T20:55:38 < Steffanx> Some people end up with some boards from events.. but not many
2017-10-02T20:55:58 < Steffanx> but still dont remember who it was
2017-10-02T20:56:00 < bvernoux> as I'm more interested by the LQFP version which is not available ;)
2017-10-02T20:56:32 < emeb> right - that's high-end enough I doubt that they'll be doing anything except BGA for a while.
2017-10-02T20:56:51 < englishman> H7 has pretty low availability still
2017-10-02T20:56:52 < englishman> ^^^
2017-10-02T20:57:02 < bvernoux> yes
2017-10-02T20:57:03 < englishman> and no make:r usable packages
2017-10-02T20:57:04 < bvernoux> too new
2017-10-02T20:57:29 < emeb> just wait - the kids will be clamouring for DIP packages. :P
2017-10-02T20:57:30 < bvernoux> major drawback is there is not a M0+ in addition ;)
2017-10-02T20:57:44 < bvernoux> and alsways USB FS or HS with ULPI !!
2017-10-02T20:57:44 < englishman> what's better than HAL?
2017-10-02T20:57:48 < englishman> two HAL on the same IC
2017-10-02T20:58:06 < Steffanx> Yeah, im wondering why st never jumped into that. Dual core.
2017-10-02T20:58:14 < emeb> ST has never really gone in for the multi-core SoCs
2017-10-02T20:58:17 < englishman> or better yet, phy onchip
2017-10-02T20:58:23 < bvernoux> yes at least Dual Core with a simple M0+ as 2nd core
2017-10-02T20:58:29 < bvernoux> it cost nothing
2017-10-02T20:58:30 < Steffanx> what phy englishman?
2017-10-02T20:58:35 < englishman> usb2-hs
2017-10-02T20:58:40 < bvernoux> and a native USB HS PHY ;)
2017-10-02T20:58:41 < emeb> Just go to NXP for that
2017-10-02T20:58:49 < Steffanx> but we are ##stm32
2017-10-02T20:58:51 < Steffanx> not ##nxp32
2017-10-02T20:59:01 < bvernoux> NXP have abandonned LPC43xx :(
2017-10-02T20:59:08 < emeb> wonder why
2017-10-02T20:59:11 < bvernoux> it was so advanced
2017-10-02T20:59:19 < bvernoux> maybe too much for 99% of developer ;)
2017-10-02T20:59:37 < emeb> managing that stuff takes a certain learning curve
2017-10-02T20:59:52 < bvernoux> yes and Dev Lib are not good enough too
2017-10-02T20:59:53 < englishman> yeah but this is H7
2017-10-02T21:00:00 < Steffanx> abandonned LPC43x? lies.
2017-10-02T21:00:04 < bvernoux> anyway H7 is mainly based on previous stuff ;)
2017-10-02T21:00:07 < bvernoux> so well supported
2017-10-02T21:00:17 < bvernoux> just adding minor new things
2017-10-02T21:00:41 < bvernoux> Steffanx, it is like abandonned ... as there is not anything new since 2013
2017-10-02T21:00:45 < englishman> absolutely nothing for H7 at digikrap
2017-10-02T21:01:04 < bvernoux> yes H7 was announced 1 year ago and still today it is very rare
2017-10-02T21:01:14 < englishman> zero stock anywhere on octopart, tho price for STM32H743I-EVAL is listed as $500+
2017-10-02T21:01:21 < Steffanx> The lpc4367 is newer than that bvernoux
2017-10-02T21:01:27 < Steffanx> end 2015 iirc
2017-10-02T21:01:31 < bvernoux> Steffanx, it adds nothing ;)
2017-10-02T21:01:39 < bvernoux> except embedded flash ok ...
2017-10-02T21:02:01 < bvernoux> I was expecting a CortexM7 @400Mhz on their LPC43xx ;)
2017-10-02T21:02:08 < bvernoux> it was the flagship
2017-10-02T21:02:11 < Steffanx> stop ;) -_-
2017-10-02T21:02:41 < bvernoux> and now it is less advanced than their 54k ;)
2017-10-02T21:03:06 < englishman> who down with lpc?
2017-10-02T21:03:09 < englishman> none of the devvies
2017-10-02T21:03:10 < bvernoux> i'm pretty sure it will be a MCU killer with small package too
2017-10-02T21:03:25 < bvernoux> like LQFP32 for the LPC43xx ;)
2017-10-02T21:03:33 < Steffanx> sounds useless
2017-10-02T21:03:37 < bvernoux> to replace the FTDI HS stuff !!
2017-10-02T21:03:51 < bvernoux> I will have already build such boards
2017-10-02T21:04:01 < zyp> bvernoux, do you ever do anything other than fanboy over lpc43xx?
2017-10-02T21:04:07 < bvernoux> especially with the Flash Embedded could be an FTDI HS killer
2017-10-02T21:04:13 < englishman> why do you say it has been abandoned
2017-10-02T21:04:17 < Steffanx> but one frenchmen is not enough for an entire business case bvernoux
2017-10-02T21:04:27 < bvernoux> englishman, it is in pause if you prefer since 2013 ;)
2017-10-02T21:04:40 < englishman> maybe they have simply achieved perfection?
2017-10-02T21:04:54 < Thorn> >42 peripherals
2017-10-02T21:04:55 < Thorn> >LQFP32
2017-10-02T21:05:02 < bvernoux> with CortexM7 it will be perfect ;)
2017-10-02T21:05:07 < Steffanx> help.
2017-10-02T21:05:30 < bvernoux> anyway I'm very convident on RISC-V MCU
2017-10-02T21:05:38 < englishman> oh, you 're trolling
2017-10-02T21:05:38 < bvernoux> they are amazing
2017-10-02T21:05:41 < englishman> thanks for making it obvious
2017-10-02T21:06:06 < englishman> normally, troll comments are opened with the <troll> tag
2017-10-02T21:06:15 < englishman> please keep this in mind going forward
2017-10-02T21:06:42 < bvernoux> in fact today STM32 are very nice but very expensive ;)
2017-10-02T21:06:45 < Thorn> someone did that about 6 years ago but never closed it
2017-10-02T21:06:50 < bvernoux> it is the main drawback
2017-10-02T21:06:53 < Thorn> the channel has been in troll mode since
2017-10-02T21:06:54 < Steffanx> no, he adds ;) for that to every sentence, englishman ;)
2017-10-02T21:07:24 < Steffanx> and yet you stayed, why Thorn?
2017-10-02T21:08:11 < Thorn> for the trolling
2017-10-02T21:08:14 < Thorn> I guess
2017-10-02T21:08:35 < bvernoux> we should have some STM32 with eMPC support ;)
2017-10-02T21:09:01 < bvernoux> eMCP sorry ;)
2017-10-02T21:09:14 < bvernoux> for those who do not know what is it
2017-10-02T21:09:33 < bvernoux> it is all in one eMMC + LPDDR2 all in one
2017-10-02T21:09:47 < bvernoux> which are very cheap ...
2017-10-02T21:09:49 < Steffanx> We need a quad core m7
2017-10-02T21:10:13 < zyp> we need a pony too
2017-10-02T21:11:07 < Steffanx> i dont know what you would do with a pony zyp...
2017-10-02T21:13:24 < upgrdman> use your imagination
2017-10-02T21:13:31 < upgrdman> ponies have holes
2017-10-02T21:14:04 < Steffanx> upgrdongsman.
2017-10-02T21:14:18 < invzim> anyone done any mods/design with wifi?
2017-10-02T21:14:31 < englishman> 🐎 🔨 🍽
2017-10-02T21:14:38 < invzim> got a 'broken' uniquiti ap from work
2017-10-02T21:14:46 < invzim> ubiquiti
2017-10-02T21:15:00 < Steffanx> broken?
2017-10-02T21:15:04 < bvernoux> invzim, yes but it is out of STM32 stuff
2017-10-02T21:15:16 < bvernoux> even if I use it with an STM32F4 ;)
2017-10-02T21:15:31 < invzim> each antennae goes to 2 qfp ic's
2017-10-02T21:15:34 < bvernoux> Wifi Bridge is nice
2017-10-02T21:15:35 < invzim> 4 in total
2017-10-02T21:15:39 < Steffanx> Fix it and use the most awesome ap yourself
2017-10-02T21:15:50 < sync> > ubnt
2017-10-02T21:15:53 < sync> > awesome
2017-10-02T21:15:59 < invzim> I presume for 2.4 and 5ghz tx/rx - but anyone got any idea what those are?
2017-10-02T21:16:13 < bvernoux> send a picture
2017-10-02T21:16:14 < Steffanx> for me it works better thatn any other ap i ever had sync
2017-10-02T21:16:20 < invzim> error of AP is seemingly that it doesn't transmit
2017-10-02T21:16:24 < bvernoux> I'm pretty sure it is broadcom stuff
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2017-10-02T21:16:33 < bvernoux> as not a lot do 5GHz embedded
2017-10-02T21:16:46 < bvernoux> it requires specific IP ...
2017-10-02T21:16:47 < sync> yeah they work ok Steffanx, but we deployed shitloads of them once and had all sorts of issues
2017-10-02T21:16:56 < sync> changed to aruba and everything is fine
2017-10-02T21:16:58 < Steffanx> pebkac? :)
2017-10-02T21:17:17 < sync> no, hardware overheating with high load and shit like that
2017-10-02T21:17:43 < invzim> got 100+ at work, for the money it can't  be beat
2017-10-02T21:18:04 < bvernoux> invzim, post a picture which high def
2017-10-02T21:18:23 < Steffanx> im sure someone posted some pic of it on the web before
2017-10-02T21:18:41 < bvernoux> I want WiGig on MCU ;)
2017-10-02T21:18:52 < bvernoux> for ultra fast streaming haha
2017-10-02T21:19:03 < englishman> should have used mikrotik
2017-10-02T21:19:30 < bvernoux> peraso have some nice chipset for WiGig+USB3.x
2017-10-02T21:19:36 < bvernoux> but they are really not open ;)
2017-10-02T21:19:41 < invzim> he, search and you will find https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/ubiquiti/unifiac
2017-10-02T21:19:53 < invzim> page probably has the info I seek
2017-10-02T21:20:04 < bvernoux> ha ok Qualcomm stuff
2017-10-02T21:20:11 < bvernoux> like Boardcom totally closed ;)
2017-10-02T21:20:14 < bvernoux> NDA everywhere
2017-10-02T21:20:19 < Steffanx> Who cares.
2017-10-02T21:20:53 < bvernoux> yes until the binary blob does not work on your linux kernel ;)
2017-10-02T21:21:04 < bvernoux> it is main problem of those closed stuff
2017-10-02T21:21:21 < bvernoux> when the manufacturer does not want to invest to port it to newer kernel ...
2017-10-02T21:22:05 < sync> then you just use an older kernel
2017-10-02T21:22:12 < englishman> >linux
2017-10-02T21:22:14 < englishman> >not working
2017-10-02T21:22:16 < englishman> redundant statement
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2017-10-02T21:22:33 < bvernoux> yes which does not have any security fixes and then it is a total nightmare ;)
2017-10-02T21:22:39 < invzim> https://wiki.openwrt.org/_media/media/ubiquiti/unifi-apac-lite_pcb_front.jpg?cache=
2017-10-02T21:22:54 < invzim> anyone know what the 4 top qfn's are supposed to do?
2017-10-02T21:23:07 < zyp> PAs maybe?
2017-10-02T21:23:20 < invzim> PA?
2017-10-02T21:23:31 < zyp> power amplifiers
2017-10-02T21:23:37 < sync> bvernoux: pls
2017-10-02T21:23:39 < sync> > 2017
2017-10-02T21:23:41 < sync> > security
2017-10-02T21:23:53 < sync> #yolo
2017-10-02T21:24:06 < bvernoux> invzim, yes mainly PA
2017-10-02T21:24:10 < invzim> could be, I found no power rail on them - which then may explain why there is little radio activity :)
2017-10-02T21:24:57 < invzim> thanks, I'll dig around a little more
2017-10-02T21:25:08 < bvernoux> invzim, check the ref on the qfn
2017-10-02T21:25:30 < invzim> google was not my friend on the first one at least
2017-10-02T21:25:46 < englishman> if i were to guess
2017-10-02T21:25:46 < bvernoux> the antenna are very fun ;)
2017-10-02T21:25:56 < englishman> inner two are PA/ txrx switch
2017-10-02T21:26:13 < englishman> outer two are pa/switch for mimo or beam steering
2017-10-02T21:26:41 < bvernoux> yes we see there is 2 QFN per antenna
2017-10-02T21:26:47 < bvernoux> so TX & RX
2017-10-02T21:26:52 < bvernoux> switch/PA
2017-10-02T21:27:51 < bvernoux> invzim, why do you need to know what is it ?
2017-10-02T21:28:07 < bvernoux> 5Ghz is full of black magic ;)
2017-10-02T21:29:41 < zyp> I think all four are PAs, one for each antenna for each chip/band
2017-10-02T21:30:04 < zyp> since there's one chip for 2.4 and one chip for 5G
2017-10-02T21:30:19 < zyp> outer two are 2.4G, inner two are 5G
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2017-10-02T21:30:38 < bvernoux> maybe there is some other on the other side too
2017-10-02T21:31:43 < zyp> it's also interesting how the 2.4G have balanced antenna outputs and requires a balun circuit, while the 5G chip has unbalanced outputs
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2017-10-02T22:02:26 < tpw_rules> dongs: any word
2017-10-02T22:05:35 < Steffanx> dongs is in dreamland.
2017-10-02T22:07:58 < Laurenceb_> https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2017/09/damage-samantha-sex-robot-shows-male-aggression-being-normalised
2017-10-02T22:10:03 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o englishman] by ChanServ
2017-10-02T22:11:13 < jadew> Laurenceb_, now they're complaining that they're not the ones receiving the abuse?
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2017-10-02T22:12:05 < Laurenceb_> probably
2017-10-02T22:13:10 < jadew> I just found out about the two attacks
2017-10-02T22:13:57 < Steffanx> 2
2017-10-02T22:13:57 < Steffanx> ?
2017-10-02T22:14:13 < jadew> there was a stabbing in france too
2017-10-02T22:14:20 < jadew> two dead
2017-10-02T22:14:27 < Laurenceb_> three attacks
2017-10-02T22:14:34 < Laurenceb_> dont forget Samantha
2017-10-02T22:14:35 < jadew> oh really?
2017-10-02T22:14:41 < jadew> what's that?
2017-10-02T22:14:57 < Steffanx> oh, that was yesterday.
2017-10-02T22:15:00 < Steffanx> the stabbin
2017-10-02T22:15:00 < Steffanx> g
2017-10-02T22:15:18 < jadew> yeah, I just got online, was disconnected for two days
2017-10-02T22:15:31 < Steffanx> how?
2017-10-02T22:15:36 < Laurenceb_> http://www.zdnet.com/article/sex-robot-molested-destroyed-at-electronics-show/
2017-10-02T22:15:39 < jadew> had to take care of other stuff
2017-10-02T22:15:43 < jadew> personal matters
2017-10-02T22:15:59 < jadew> ah, that's Samantha :P
2017-10-02T22:16:24 < jadew> I knew about that one, dongs commented on how cheap it is, compared to what he has access to
2017-10-02T22:17:30 <@englishman> dont forget the amazing fail in canada
2017-10-02T22:17:36 <@englishman> (dont forget canada guise)
2017-10-02T22:18:01 < jadew> what happened there?
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2017-10-02T22:18:40 <@englishman> BREAKING: Stephen Craig Paddock changed his name to Khaled Mardam-Bey and devoted his act to ISIS shortly before starting killer rampage
2017-10-02T22:19:00 < aandrew> haha
2017-10-02T22:21:16 < Laurenceb_> Khaled Mardam-Bey
2017-10-02T22:21:18 < Laurenceb_> my sides
2017-10-02T22:21:45 < Laurenceb_> Abu Al-Laurenceb
2017-10-02T22:21:52 -!- mode/##stm32 [-c] by englishman
2017-10-02T22:21:56 < aandrew> wtf is -c?
2017-10-02T22:22:02 < superbia2> cancer
2017-10-02T22:22:05 < Steffanx> ^
2017-10-02T22:22:16 < Steffanx> mainly eye cancer
2017-10-02T22:22:19 <@englishman> cancer mode = off
2017-10-02T22:22:25 <@englishman> -cancer
2017-10-02T22:22:28 < Steffanx> colours aandrew, colours are allowed now.
2017-10-02T22:22:37 < aandrew> oh balls
2017-10-02T22:22:37 < Steffanx> +c disables colours
2017-10-02T22:22:48 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o englishman] by ChanServ
2017-10-02T22:22:53 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o Steffanx] by ChanServ
2017-10-02T22:22:55 -!- mode/##stm32 [+c] by Steffanx
2017-10-02T22:22:55 < Laurenceb_> Black Lives Matter
2017-10-02T22:22:59 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o Steffanx] by Steffanx
2017-10-02T22:23:08 < englishman> racist
2017-10-02T22:23:23 < Laurenceb_> irc of colour
2017-10-02T22:47:07 < englishman> rip tom petty
2017-10-02T22:49:44 < Steffanx> millenials dont listen to that crap.
2017-10-02T22:50:00 < englishman> are there millenials in this chan? i hope not
2017-10-02T22:50:02 < BrainDamage> millennials killed irc
2017-10-02T22:50:06 < BrainDamage> yes
2017-10-02T22:50:08 < emeb> Even some of us Gen Xers don't listen to that
2017-10-02T22:52:18 < Steffanx> What do generation Xers listen to mr emeb?
2017-10-02T22:52:36 < emeb> everyone is different
2017-10-02T22:52:37 < englishman> milennials killed stdperiphlib
2017-10-02T22:52:52  * emeb has some UNKLE on now
2017-10-02T22:54:05 < Steffanx> I wonder how many users here are NOT millenial.
2017-10-02T22:54:53 < englishman> /topic are you a millennial? Please take part in this vote by typing /part
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2017-10-02T22:56:31 < Steffanx> ^
2017-10-02T22:56:32 < emeb> snerk
2017-10-02T22:58:29 < BrainDamage> what's the name of the yellow shrouded connector used in lipo which looks like a rectangle, but one side is D shaped
2017-10-02T22:59:32 < BrainDamage> nvm, found it, it's XT30
2017-10-02T22:59:41 < englishman> usually XT60 brain
2017-10-02T22:59:42 < Steffanx> yw
2017-10-02T22:59:43 < qyx> xt60
2017-10-02T22:59:44 < englishman> XT30 is the smaller one
2017-10-02T22:59:54 < BrainDamage> ah
2017-10-02T23:00:01 < qyx> aha, I didn't know there is also a xt30 one
2017-10-02T23:00:34 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/JzSdZM7.jpg
2017-10-02T23:00:43 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/PsalRQm.jpg
2017-10-02T23:01:44 < BrainDamage> looks like it's actually xt60 what i need, thanks
2017-10-02T23:01:53 < aandrew> I have a bunch of the smaller ones
2017-10-02T23:02:13 < superbia2> isnt that quadcopter battery connector
2017-10-02T23:02:46 < superbia2> im too tired
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2017-10-02T23:02:49 < BrainDamage> idk, i don't use fagcopters
2017-10-02T23:04:41 < englishman> its also used on airplanes and singlerotors, as a non-racist connector
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2017-10-02T23:21:28 < upgrdman> lol. lpc1768 ethernet can hang the core AND jtag if the phy clocks are broken. "...Otherwise the CPU can become
2017-10-02T23:21:28 < upgrdman> locked and no further functionality will be possible. This will cause JTAG lose
2017-10-02T23:21:28 < upgrdman> communication with the target, if debug mode is being used."
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2017-10-02T23:30:29 < sync> pro IP right there upgrdman
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2017-10-02T23:31:07 < upgrdman> super pro
2017-10-02T23:31:20 < jadew> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e5c_1506930342
2017-10-02T23:49:49 < Steffanx> 1778 too upgrdman
2017-10-02T23:50:18 < upgrdman> 1778?
2017-10-02T23:50:31 < Steffanx> lpc
2017-10-02T23:50:37 < upgrdman> oh ya
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2017-10-03T00:07:32 < karlp> upgrdman: stm32l1 will break swd if you try and do a fast half page flash write from flash instead of sram too...
2017-10-03T00:08:32 < upgrdman> lol
2017-10-03T00:11:22 < karlp> it's ok, it's how you know you dun fukked up
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2017-10-03T00:30:41 < zyp> break swd?
2017-10-03T00:30:52 < zyp> on l0, it just fails writing
2017-10-03T00:37:24 < karlp> on l1, it fails writing, and oocd lost connection
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2017-10-03T00:58:07 < Rob235> anyone ever use opencv.js?
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2017-10-03T01:11:25 < Rob235> or maybe I'll look into html5 canvas filters...
2017-10-03T01:12:53 < tpw_rules> has there been any consensus on if STM32L0 still exists
2017-10-03T01:13:08 < englishman> L0, sure
2017-10-03T01:13:14 < englishman> it's L1 that's nrnd right?
2017-10-03T01:13:18 < tpw_rules> idk
2017-10-03T01:13:31 < tpw_rules> dongs told me this morning he thought it was L0 but then he said it was L1
2017-10-03T01:13:41 < tpw_rules> but like i want to make extra sure before i buy 5000
2017-10-03T01:14:09 < englishman> where are you buying them
2017-10-03T01:14:30 < englishman> because that's where you should ask, really
2017-10-03T01:14:35 < tpw_rules> digikey
2017-10-03T01:14:48 < tpw_rules> but they're out of stock right now. so if i should be switching chips, i'd like to know now
2017-10-03T01:15:01 < englishman> they usually have crap stm32 stock
2017-10-03T01:15:06 < englishman> so that's not much to go by
2017-10-03T01:15:30 < tpw_rules> do you think if i email st they'll tell me
2017-10-03T01:15:43 < englishman> in 6-36 months sure
2017-10-03T01:15:58 < englishman> nah. they are usually <1 week
2017-10-03T01:15:59 < tpw_rules> oh
2017-10-03T01:16:02 < tpw_rules> ok
2017-10-03T01:16:08 < tpw_rules> but yeah knowing if my dingle is nrnd would be v nice
2017-10-03T01:19:06 < tpw_rules> hm what is their sales email
2017-10-03T01:19:45 < englishman> pretty sure there are over9000 of them
2017-10-03T01:20:54 < tpw_rules> there's no like sales@st
2017-10-03T01:21:28 < englishman> Number of employees 49,450
2017-10-03T01:23:39 < tpw_rules> hmmmmm
2017-10-03T01:23:45 < tpw_rules> just pick a distributor and email then
2017-10-03T01:25:55 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCkFSe3voRc
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2017-10-03T02:18:59 < karlp> tpw_rules: I'd say l0 is perfectly safe
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2017-10-03T02:50:00 < tpw_rules> karlp: ok
2017-10-03T02:50:09 < tpw_rules> based on what
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2017-10-03T05:33:31 < upgrdman> 3d printing on the go, lol:  https://youtu.be/srVHzKsBguM?t=97
2017-10-03T05:37:13 < dongs> oh that dumb chink transvestite
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2017-10-03T09:23:03 < englishman> why doesnt bvernoux get all hot and wild over this amazing piece https://www.nxp.com/products/microcontrollers-and-processors/power-architecture-processors/powerquicc-processors/powerquicc-ii:PCPPCMPC82XX
2017-10-03T09:24:15 < qyx> too much networks
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2017-10-03T10:16:18 < Steffanx> Because not cortex-m7 englishman, isnt that obvious?
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2017-10-03T10:25:35 < englishman> buy two of them to unlock dual core
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2017-10-03T11:35:17  * stvn hello steffan
2017-10-03T11:46:10 < stvn> Steffanx you mass murderer
2017-10-03T11:46:21 < stvn> why did you kill all of those innocent people!
2017-10-03T11:51:13 < dongs> < englishman> why doesnt bvernoux get all hot and wild over
2017-10-03T11:51:20 < dongs> because even autistic faggots (ecept o6) know when to stop
2017-10-03T11:51:59 < stvn> i dunno what that bvernoux is
2017-10-03T11:52:08 < dongs> well known opensores stoner
2017-10-03T11:52:16 < Fleck> one should learn how to use /me before using /me
2017-10-03T11:52:35 < dongs> fleck the faggot on ignore
2017-10-03T11:54:20 < stvn> fuck those opensores bin folk
2017-10-03T11:54:24 < Steffanx> Dongs be nice.
2017-10-03T11:54:32 < Steffanx> stvn be nice.
2017-10-03T11:54:37 < stvn> Steffanx, i have been studying capacitor replacement
2017-10-03T11:54:50 < Steffanx> Today*
2017-10-03T11:54:58 < Steffanx> (to make it CRT)
2017-10-03T11:55:05 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/L0y5yFe.jpg
2017-10-03T11:55:11 < stvn> do you think it will sound better now?
2017-10-03T11:55:50 < Steffanx> Only if you packed them in rice paper
2017-10-03T11:56:06 < stvn> i did a special brew for the amplifiers
2017-10-03T11:56:18 < stvn> two parts panasonic one part nichicon
2017-10-03T11:56:29 < stvn> that's for better hf clarity and sparkle
2017-10-03T11:59:08 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/818SoO0.jpg
2017-10-03T11:59:23 < stvn> see i can do a shootout and blog on audiokarma
2017-10-03T12:00:07 < Steffanx> Why so many resistor? You want to power/energy in the speaker, not in some resistor..
2017-10-03T12:00:41 < Steffanx> Such waste
2017-10-03T12:01:19 < stvn> emitter degeneration resistors muscles
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2017-10-03T12:04:54 < stvn> i can sell you some emitter degeneration resistors mr steffan
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2017-10-03T12:09:58 < dongs> http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2017/09/28/american-accused-of-sending-1-kg-of-marijuana-from-u-s-to-osaka-in-post/
2017-10-03T12:10:35 < stvn> fucking stoner
2017-10-03T12:10:42 < dongs> literally
2017-10-03T12:11:09 < stvn> here i was thinking buying an ounce was a big smoke
2017-10-03T12:15:14 < tomeaton17> That is a big smoke man
2017-10-03T12:15:34 < stvn> yes
2017-10-03T12:15:43 < stvn> but compared to 1kg
2017-10-03T12:16:16 < tomeaton17> How much space would that take up
2017-10-03T12:16:23 < stvn> wut?
2017-10-03T12:16:39 < tomeaton17> Like that would be a massive package
2017-10-03T12:16:58 < stvn> almost 36oz... squeeze it up
2017-10-03T12:17:02 < stvn> doubt it'd be that big
2017-10-03T12:17:17 < tomeaton17> Then it would be some shitty brick
2017-10-03T12:17:36 < stvn> yeah
2017-10-03T12:17:37 < stvn> brick
2017-10-03T12:17:39 < stvn> anyway
2017-10-03T12:17:43 < tomeaton17> some of that og mexican schwag
2017-10-03T12:17:45 < stvn> lets talk about capacitors
2017-10-03T12:20:39 < dongs> they're large
2017-10-03T12:20:40 < dongs> and black
2017-10-03T12:20:50 < dongs> (kinda like my dick)
2017-10-03T12:21:09 < stvn> cool man
2017-10-03T12:21:13 < stvn> just like gary
2017-10-03T12:21:19 < dongs> mr. niger?
2017-10-03T12:21:34 < stvn> yah
2017-10-03T12:22:58 < zyp> hey, what should I use to concatenate shit into a pdf on windows?
2017-10-03T12:23:40 < dongs> acrobat?
2017-10-03T12:23:50 < zyp> reader?
2017-10-03T12:23:54 < dongs> no, the real thing
2017-10-03T12:24:07 < zyp> surely this can be done without payware?
2017-10-03T12:24:18 < dongs> well, how many miles of command line do you wanna type?
2017-10-03T12:24:23 < dongs> you could copypaste the images into excel
2017-10-03T12:24:27 < dongs> tehn file->save as and save as pdf
2017-10-03T12:28:57 < tomeaton17> Is the shit in image form
2017-10-03T12:29:30 < tomeaton17> I may have a py script for that somewhere
2017-10-03T12:30:19 < dongs> haha py
2017-10-03T12:30:45 < tomeaton17> Hate on it all u want but its great for automating tasks
2017-10-03T12:31:11 < zyp> I'm filling out some travel expenses shit, got an xls form and a bunch of pics of receipts
2017-10-03T12:32:05 < stvn> this is getting quite filthy
2017-10-03T12:32:31 < zyp> apparently I need to scale the pics too
2017-10-03T12:32:47 < zyp> I tried some online shit, and the 12MP photos turned gigantic
2017-10-03T12:32:50 < dongs> keep the shit in excel then
2017-10-03T12:32:53 < dongs> just paste the pics
2017-10-03T12:32:57 < tomeaton17> So easy with python
2017-10-03T12:33:10 < zyp> dongs, eww, no
2017-10-03T12:33:16 < dongs> why the fuck would you involve shithon at this point?????????? he already HAS A EXCEL SHEET
2017-10-03T12:33:39 < tomeaton17> So he does have to manually copy and paste every fckn picture??????
2017-10-03T12:33:44 < tomeaton17> lol doesnt
2017-10-03T12:33:56 < dongs> jesus dude. we're not talking about 1000 images here
2017-10-03T12:34:09 < dongs> pretty sure dragndropping several jpegs into excel works
2017-10-03T12:34:12 < zyp> the excel shit is some dumb template thing, I'm not fucking around with that
2017-10-03T12:34:14 < dongs> and you can just drag them around teh sheet for later
2017-10-03T12:34:18 < dongs> okwahtevrman
2017-10-03T12:34:48 < tomeaton17> ok
2017-10-03T12:40:09 < Steffanx> Cant imagick do that?
2017-10-03T12:45:18 < karlp> huh, powerquicc 1 and 2 are still for sale
2017-10-03T12:47:00 < stvn> anything you desire is on the market
2017-10-03T12:47:25 < Steffanx> So what is the must have logic analyzer that isnt chinkware nowadays? Tired of my chinkware one..
2017-10-03T12:49:34 < fest> Saleae logic pro 8/16 are decent
2017-10-03T12:50:31 < stvn> i have the dirty saleae
2017-10-03T12:50:37 < stvn> the first one released
2017-10-03T12:50:58 < stvn> i purchased it to troll leeloominai
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2017-10-03T12:51:06 < stvn> cause he was telling everyone to buy the chink copy
2017-10-03T12:51:26 < stvn> welcome back Laurenceb_
2017-10-03T12:57:22 < Laurenceb_> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41470651
2017-10-03T12:58:39 < stvn> y/n
2017-10-03T12:58:42 < Laurenceb_> https://funnypictures2.fjcdn.com/pictures/Autistic+screeching_e2aabc_6143447.jpg
2017-10-03T12:59:58 < stvn> hmmm
2017-10-03T13:00:06 < stvn> any new patents dr?
2017-10-03T13:00:46 < Laurenceb_> only a patent on ur mum
2017-10-03T13:01:16 < stvn> hell yeah
2017-10-03T13:04:28 < stvn> got any more
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2017-10-03T13:17:45 < stvn> .
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2017-10-03T13:40:22 < stvn> She was a sweet one...  I stabbed her eight times and she ran and ran, bleeding...  And when she couldn't run anymore, she still tried to protect the kid.  I really got off on it....
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2017-10-03T14:07:52 < dongs> haha @ wehre stfn got that text from
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2017-10-03T14:33:33 < stvn> fucken pig
2017-10-03T14:37:51 < Steffanx> Stvn behave.
2017-10-03T14:42:03 < dongs> stvn, what the shit are you doing reading narooter fanfiction
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2017-10-03T17:18:46 < Shavik> Am I wasting my time trying to route this 9 pin BGA 0.5mm pitch with 5mil traces? seems there is no way to get the center pin out.
2017-10-03T17:18:48 < Shavik> Maybe I'm missing something
2017-10-03T17:24:48 < englishman> 5mil should be fine no?
2017-10-03T17:24:48 < englishman> https://www.xilinx.com/support/documentation/user_guides/ug1099-bga-device-design-rules.pdf
2017-10-03T17:25:16 < Shavik> Maybe my solder mask expansion is too much?
2017-10-03T17:25:29 < englishman> with 4/10 vias
2017-10-03T17:25:57 < Shavik> https://factory.macrofab.com/help/AssemblySpecs
2017-10-03T17:26:00 < Shavik> Are my current limitations
2017-10-03T17:26:00 < englishman> if youre routing, page 44 says 3/3 trace
2017-10-03T17:26:14 < englishman> macrofab will actually do 0.5mm bga?
2017-10-03T17:26:17 < Shavik> so with standard 12 mil drill. extended gets me a 4 mil drill
2017-10-03T17:26:20 < Shavik> Yes
2017-10-03T17:26:23 < Shavik> down to 0.4mm BGA
2017-10-03T17:26:39 < Shavik> Just have to use their extended manufacturing to get 3/3 trace or 4 mil drill
2017-10-03T17:26:52 < englishman> what part is this where you need a 9 pin bga
2017-10-03T17:27:07 < Shavik> Not really "need" but the part that met all my needs. I'm sure they have others that meet them
2017-10-03T17:27:18 < Shavik> This is a part "learning/hobby" board so I'm trying to push my limits
2017-10-03T17:27:25 < Shavik> It's a lipo gas gauge
2017-10-03T17:27:49 < Shavik> Trying to fit this all in a pretty small package for use on RC vehicles
2017-10-03T17:28:02 < Shavik> Looks like the  9 pin BGA was a step too far
2017-10-03T17:28:05 < englishman> enter these specs and let me know how many x the price goes up
2017-10-03T17:28:40 < englishman> yeah 0.5mm bga is on the high end
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2017-10-03T17:28:55 < englishman> protip, do your prototype, then shrink it later
2017-10-03T17:29:09 < Shavik> $120+ for extended manufacturing lol no thanks
2017-10-03T17:29:18 < Shavik> Entire device with parts + assembly labor was $70 before
2017-10-03T17:29:24 < englishman> thats not bad
2017-10-03T17:29:37 < Shavik> Yea macrofab's prices for a device out the door are pretty great for low volume
2017-10-03T17:29:43 < Shavik> thats 1x quantity too so lots of setup factored in
2017-10-03T17:29:53 < Shavik> 4 layers as well
2017-10-03T17:30:27 < Shavik> the labor is $16, which for me with all the 0402's and fine pitch QFN's. is a no brainer
2017-10-03T17:31:06 < Laurenceb> ur lazy
2017-10-03T17:31:12 < Shavik> yessir
2017-10-03T17:31:43 < Shavik> Now if you look at like screaming circuits prices, I'll solder it myself
2017-10-03T17:32:05 < Shavik> like $1000 for 5 boards to be assembled + pcbs, thats not even including parts
2017-10-03T17:32:32 < englishman> thats a more typical price
2017-10-03T17:32:43 < englishman> its a "fuck off and do it yourself" price
2017-10-03T17:32:45 < Shavik> yea so for $16, they can solder their hearts out lol
2017-10-03T17:32:52 < karlp> does that macro place assemble as well?
2017-10-03T17:32:57 < Shavik>  Yes
2017-10-03T17:33:00 < englishman> karlp: that is their specialty
2017-10-03T17:33:03 < englishman> turnkey boards
2017-10-03T17:33:05 < Shavik> I just upload my ODB++ and BOMs
2017-10-03T17:33:05 < karlp> neat, neve3r heard of them
2017-10-03T17:33:07 < englishman> try out the quote interface
2017-10-03T17:33:08 < Shavik> I get fully assembled boards
2017-10-03T17:33:12 < Shavik> they have a great website
2017-10-03T17:33:17 < Shavik> any of their house parts are free labor
2017-10-03T17:33:21 < Shavik> good prices on them too
2017-10-03T17:33:27 < Shavik> I try to use their passives wherever possible
2017-10-03T17:33:30 < englishman> a pal used them and they came back OK, long leadtime tho
2017-10-03T17:33:35 < Shavik> about 3 weeks total
2017-10-03T17:33:41 < Shavik> which they send off for the PCB
2017-10-03T17:33:59 < Shavik> But their support team is great. I had an issue with one of the boards (my fault) and they RMA'd it and attempted a fix
2017-10-03T17:34:04 < Shavik> they did NOT have to do that
2017-10-03T17:34:18 < englishman> yeah i have no idea how they make money
2017-10-03T17:34:18 < Shavik> So they really went above and beyond to help me out
2017-10-03T17:34:25 < Shavik> me either lol
2017-10-03T17:34:31 < Shavik> They have been around a while though
2017-10-03T17:34:48 < Shavik> Well at least long enough not to be a fly by night operation
2017-10-03T17:35:34 < Laurenceb> Whilst many institutions offer programmes for young audiences, pedagogical approaches differ significantly across the sector. Debates of how, as opposed to simply why children’s programmes are being produced are now a significant issue for learning curators.
2017-10-03T17:35:47 < Laurenceb> this is some next level spam in my inbox
2017-10-03T17:36:56 < Laurenceb> > alternate pedagogies are constructed from within a specific temporal context.
2017-10-03T17:38:07 < Laurenceb> I should reply "mashing long words together at random is NOT AN ARGUMENT"
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2017-10-03T17:44:46 < Shavik> hmm the bq27441-G1 has the exact same pins available. VSON package.
2017-10-03T17:44:55 < Shavik> thinking this is the smarter route ;)
2017-10-03T17:47:27 < Laurenceb> https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yllYe5h_DiQ/WcxtHEtlUyI/AAAAAAABOXg/qPz0bm3EIiAAJq6YrXd6R52e9ChVDoDwQCLcBGAs/s1600/1mb90m_owhozx9gjn1ve0jm4o1_540.jpg
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2017-10-03T18:52:47 < karlp> this looks kinda fun for training, but it's kinda lame that silego gets to own the designs https://marketplace.efabless.com/silego/challenges/AV7OuavEWwCev2FAh6IX/info
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2017-10-03T19:04:18 < karlp> heh, login with linkedin only.
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2017-10-03T22:18:36 < Steffanx> looked nice, but that part ruined it karlp
2017-10-03T22:31:35 < Laurenceb_> so arse seems to have subscribed me to a postmodern mailing list
2017-10-03T22:31:42 < Laurenceb_> better not have been anyone here
2017-10-03T22:40:14 < Steffanx> No one here even wants to ever have your email address..
2017-10-03T22:40:28 < Laurenceb_> > reflective discourse is a dialect between the actual and the possible
2017-10-03T22:40:44 < Laurenceb_> literally "dude weed lmao"
2017-10-03T22:42:17 < Laurenceb_> holy shit
2017-10-03T22:42:34 < Steffanx> Are you into religion Laurenceb_?
2017-10-03T22:44:18 < Laurenceb_> > the field of childhood studies addresses intergenerational transpecies justice
2017-10-03T22:45:12 < Steffanx> monologuing much.
2017-10-03T22:45:24 < Steffanx> Better not turn into o6
2017-10-03T22:47:36 < Laurenceb_> >human centric conceit of the anthropos
2017-10-03T22:50:16 < Laurenceb_> >museum objects offer entanglements for human and non-human visitors
2017-10-03T22:50:40 < jpa-> karlp: seems strange that designing such a simple circuit should be difficult enough that its worth a contest
2017-10-03T22:51:19 < Steffanx> it seems to be the first of 10 things they want to you do, maybe they like to start easy?
2017-10-03T22:51:50 < jpa-> ah, that makes more sense
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2017-10-03T23:05:25 < englishman> 1 Mutual Group
2017-10-03T23:05:25 < englishman> You and Steffan are both in the STM32 Experts group
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2017-10-03T23:11:46 < Steffanx> Whoa englishman
2017-10-03T23:12:00 < englishman> o/
2017-10-03T23:12:00 < Steffanx> Can i re-endorse your irc skillz?
2017-10-03T23:12:10 < englishman> yeah someone keeps downvoting them
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2017-10-03T23:25:34 < karlp> jpa-: yeah, it sounds like, "should be totally straight forward intro to the toolset and the parts"
2017-10-03T23:25:41 < karlp> they've always seemed like interesting devices
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2017-10-03T23:43:20 < zyp> kinda like cplds that you have to configure manually
2017-10-03T23:43:25 < zyp> with some analog parts mixed in
2017-10-03T23:43:31 < zyp> is that right?
2017-10-03T23:43:57 < karlp> as I understand it.
2017-10-03T23:46:19 < karlp> yosys has support for the older greenpak4 aiui too,
2017-10-03T23:46:24 < karlp> not sure how far out it is for the newer ones.
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2017-10-03T23:53:42 < karlp> looks like yosys has cyclone IV and max10 now as well.
2017-10-03T23:58:50 < fenugrec> cyclone 4... did they RE that or did  altera lend a hand ?
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2017-10-04T00:00:04 < englishman> placing digikey order for $1.92 for components i forgot... any suggestions for cart-fillers
2017-10-04T00:01:00 < zyp> grab an artik to test it if you haven't yet
2017-10-04T00:01:08 < zyp> maybe
2017-10-04T00:01:18 < englishman> hmm
2017-10-04T00:01:50 < englishman> not bad idea
2017-10-04T00:02:13 < zyp> cart fillers should be at least half useful
2017-10-04T00:03:25 < englishman> yes thanks
2017-10-04T00:04:51 < karlp> fenugrec: no idea, have to parse the commit log for that sort of depth.
2017-10-04T00:05:46 < englishman> zip, karl are you on linkedin
2017-10-04T00:05:51  * karlp laughs
2017-10-04T00:06:02 < englishman> endorse my irc skill
2017-10-04T00:06:06 < englishman> and i will reciprocate
2017-10-04T00:06:18 < karlp> linked tried to spam me occasionally about "be one of the first 10k users in iceland!"
2017-10-04T00:06:20 < BrainDamage> professional irc shiposter
2017-10-04T00:06:23 < karlp> no shit linkedin.
2017-10-04T00:06:27 < karlp> fucking waste of time.
2017-10-04T00:06:37 < BrainDamage> are there 10k internet users in iceland?
2017-10-04T00:06:57 < englishman> there are probably more internet users in iceland than italy
2017-10-04T00:07:50 < karlp> only people I've seen trying to use linkedin in iceland are foreigners trying to hype their skills in something to makeup for not having the corruption/nepotisim hookup already
2017-10-04T00:08:07 < karlp> tech is small enough if you do ok in one job, you're fine for getting more work as far as I can tell.
2017-10-04T00:11:54 < englishman> man digikey is so helpful
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2017-10-04T00:21:51 < kakimir> anyone have worked with AC devices?
2017-10-04T00:22:03 < kakimir> A/C
2017-10-04T00:29:20 < sync> what kind of them?
2017-10-04T00:29:39 < kakimir> air - air
2017-10-04T00:29:51 < kakimir> house unit
2017-10-04T00:42:21 < zyp> I installed a ton when I worked as an electrician
2017-10-04T00:42:29 < zyp> well, the electrical hookups
2017-10-04T00:42:57 < zyp> I'm somewhat familiar with the gas stuff too, although I haven't worked on that myself
2017-10-04T00:48:21 < kakimir> how easy eletrical side is to fix?
2017-10-04T00:48:31 < zyp> in what sense?
2017-10-04T00:49:30 < kakimir> if indoor unit just goes quiet
2017-10-04T00:49:37 < zyp> I haven't poked around inside them, just hooked up to the terminals
2017-10-04T00:49:55 < kakimir> there is one panasonic for 45eur
2017-10-04T00:50:24 < zyp> but I assume normal debugging strategies apply
2017-10-04T00:50:29 < kakimir> says that indoor unit went ded
2017-10-04T00:50:34 < zyp> get out the circuit board, check power on all the rails
2017-10-04T00:50:49 < kakimir> I wonder if there is some shitty custom asic stuff
2017-10-04T00:50:59 < kakimir> shitty to fix
2017-10-04T00:51:00 < zyp> probably
2017-10-04T00:51:38 < zyp> probably easiest to source a replacement board if anything on it is dead
2017-10-04T00:52:09 < zyp> unless it's something super obvious
2017-10-04T00:55:48 < kakimir> what age units you should not concider to waste time and refrigerant if you got it for free?
2017-10-04T00:56:00 < kakimir> free unit
2017-10-04T00:56:47 < zyp> I have no idea about the economics of it
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2017-10-04T01:04:23 < invzim> damn you ubiquiti for confusing me
2017-10-04T01:05:24 < invzim> googled that diodes were prone to failure, found one that was def not closed in the direction it should, only to find out there was stuff in parallel after removing it
2017-10-04T01:05:50 < Thorn> not a single resistor in sight https://www.aliexpress.com/item/freeshipping-4-Bits-0-36-Common-Anode-LED-Display-Board-Digital-Tube-Display-Module/32329959263.html
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2017-10-04T01:08:52 < zyp> Thorn, why would it need any? those are constant current led drivers
2017-10-04T01:12:01 < Thorn> not standard 595s? how do they drive both the high and the low side then
2017-10-04T01:12:34 < Thorn> I've never seen push pull CC drivers anyway
2017-10-04T01:14:56 < zyp> hmm, idk then
2017-10-04T01:15:24 < Thorn> https://zeptobars.com/en/read/Ti-NE5532-real-vs-fake-opamp
2017-10-04T01:16:26 < BrainDamage> what do you mean drive high and low side, it's a common anode display
2017-10-04T01:16:37 < zyp> it can't be
2017-10-04T01:16:50 < zyp> it's a 4x8 matrix
2017-10-04T01:16:53 < zyp> thus the 12 pins
2017-10-04T01:17:10 < zyp> probably each digit is common anode though
2017-10-04T01:17:30 < Thorn> 4 anodes + 8 cathodes
2017-10-04T01:18:40 < Thorn> so only dynamic drive is possible
2017-10-04T01:21:17 < Thorn> see https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Big-Sale-10pcs-4bit-Common-Anode-Positive-Digital-Tube-0-36-0-36in-Red-LED-Display/1709454820.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.262.raHMFk
2017-10-04T01:22:25 < Thorn> why are they calling them "Digital Tube"
2017-10-04T01:29:56 < Thorn> $3.67 for 100 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100PCS-74HC595D-SOP16-74HC595-SOP-SN74HC595DR-SMD-new-and-original-IC-free-shipping/32632592952.html
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2017-10-04T02:05:46 < karlp> anyone know any alternatives to doxygen that are functional?
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2017-10-04T02:25:40 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/cxm2ygep3lpz.jpg
2017-10-04T02:28:49 < Laurenceb_> red.chan.it
2017-10-04T02:29:19 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT4hog3qOrs
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2017-10-04T02:45:57 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZyNtj_ZNRI
2017-10-04T03:04:20 < Laurenceb_> redchanit
2017-10-04T03:06:02 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/47vd6ankhnpz.jpg
2017-10-04T03:08:31 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/XorKsL9.jpg
2017-10-04T03:14:55 < Laurenceb_> HOLY SHIT
2017-10-04T03:15:07 < Laurenceb_> is that a fresh sargon of akkad?
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2017-10-04T03:17:16 < englishman> time to assemble SAM3X proj
2017-10-04T03:17:34 < englishman> better make sure that erase pin isn't floating
2017-10-04T03:26:45 < englishman> endorse my irc skill on linkedin, asshole
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2017-10-04T03:37:28 < englishman> h
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2017-10-04T05:36:22 < ohsix> https://i.imgur.com/dMhyY4x.jpg
2017-10-04T05:36:31 < ohsix> until i find out what to do with this
2017-10-04T05:37:59 < ohsix> hm
2017-10-04T05:38:04 < ohsix> irc image feed
2017-10-04T05:38:14 < ohsix> HARD COPY
2017-10-04T05:41:19 < ohsix> https://reference.epson-biz.com/modules/ref_escpos/index.php?content_id=83
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2017-10-04T05:44:24 < dongs> sup dongs
2017-10-04T05:44:56 < emeb_mac> anyone used the L432 for anything?
2017-10-04T05:51:19 < englishman> dongs, observe innovation https://i.imgur.com/y8lXm5d.jpg?2
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2017-10-04T05:52:13 < aandrew> ohsix: you should immediately put that on kickstarter
2017-10-04T06:01:33 < dongs> amaze
2017-10-04T06:01:41 < dongs> retarduino pro due
2017-10-04T06:01:56 < dongs> or is that megal
2017-10-04T06:02:14 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/contest/Finish-a-custom-motherboard-desinge-1082272.html
2017-10-04T06:02:55 < dongs> spot the innovation
2017-10-04T06:05:35 < englishman> due
2017-10-04T06:06:01 < englishman> wow
2017-10-04T06:06:04 < englishman> will you bid $250k
2017-10-04T06:06:21 < englishman> $600k if you have to use eagle?
2017-10-04T06:06:30 < dongs> no i will complete a 12 layer board in eagle for $200, no problem
2017-10-04T06:06:44 < englishman>  Entries Received: 3
2017-10-04T06:06:54 < dongs> pakis scammed: 3
2017-10-04T06:07:35 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/contest/Finish-a-custom-motherboard-desinge-1082272-byentry-15237061.html
2017-10-04T06:07:38 < dongs> what
2017-10-04T06:07:38 < dongs> did he actually post?
2017-10-04T06:07:39 < dongs> lol
2017-10-04T06:07:51 < englishman> and won
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2017-10-04T07:10:37 < dongs> i tried to once but they're too dumb to understand my puns/jokes
2017-10-04T07:28:44 < dongs> i got a SM58 that doesnt work
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2017-10-04T07:35:09 < englishman> no chinatrolling this week
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2017-10-04T07:47:55 < englishman> Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock's true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.
2017-10-04T08:18:32 < dongs> englishman: is taht l0dey
2017-10-04T08:18:42 < englishman> no
2017-10-04T08:31:19 < ohsix> 19:36 < ohsix> https://i.imgur.com/dMhyY4x.jpg
2017-10-04T08:33:11 < ohsix> aandrew: what do i call it
2017-10-04T08:33:20 < ohsix> and what is it doing
2017-10-04T08:34:12 < dongs> https://twitter.com/ThatEricAlper/status/915393124305981440
2017-10-04T08:34:41 < ohsix> even in actual, future use i might just put it on an mqtt dealie and throw random shit on that topic
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2017-10-04T10:19:02 < zyp> what's the shit for serial flash?
2017-10-04T10:19:32 < zyp> I need to store logs and shit, I have a spare SPI port
2017-10-04T10:22:45 < zyp> hrm, the pinout of this chip is retarded
2017-10-04T10:23:11 < zyp> one of the SPI periphs does QSPI
2017-10-04T10:23:45 < zyp> but its MISO0 is shared with RMII_TXD0, and neither have any alternates, so it's impossible to do QSPI and ethernet at the same time
2017-10-04T10:25:11 < invzim> zyp: how much storage?
2017-10-04T10:26:13 < zyp> not sure yet, I'm waiting for the other guy to tell me how much he wants to store and how often he wants to write it so I can estimate specs for size and endurance
2017-10-04T10:26:21 < zyp> (and speed)
2017-10-04T10:33:36 < qyx> I am using spansion nor flash
2017-10-04T10:33:53 < qyx> but meh
2017-10-04T10:33:59 < qyx> because not available in large capacities
2017-10-04T10:34:21 < qyx> there are only nand flash chips and such which require doing ecc
2017-10-04T10:34:38 < qyx> or emmc then
2017-10-04T10:35:17 < qyx> probably you don't need qspi as the writes are horribly slow
2017-10-04T10:36:04 < zyp> yeah, this is probably going to be mostly written
2017-10-04T10:37:01 < qyx> there was a guy who was trying to reflow an actual microsd card to save $$
2017-10-04T10:42:08 < Cracki_> those are made of plastic
2017-10-04T10:42:20 < Cracki_> unless he used eutectic alloy, that's gonna melt first
2017-10-04T10:53:47 < zyp> hmm, how about spi fram or similar?
2017-10-04T10:54:39 < zyp> looked into what people want to store, looks like write volume might be a bigger concern than amount of data to store
2017-10-04T10:55:34 < qyx> if you do a fifo in a proper way, it should last for a while
2017-10-04T10:55:53 < qyx> I was considering FRAM too, but even smaller capacity
2017-10-04T10:55:57 < qyx> and more expensive
2017-10-04T10:56:38 < invzim> sdio not an option?
2017-10-04T10:56:44 < zyp> no
2017-10-04T10:56:59 < invzim> make it an option? :)
2017-10-04T10:57:06 < zyp> invzim, no.
2017-10-04T10:57:11 < invzim> OK
2017-10-04T10:57:14 < invzim> :)
2017-10-04T10:57:16 < qyx> if the flash nas 100K write cycles, with 8mbit low const chip you get aroung 100GB of logs
2017-10-04T10:58:49 < qyx> not much worse than a comparable sd card with ~500 erase cycles at most
2017-10-04T10:58:55 < qyx> at least internets said that
2017-10-04T10:59:44 < qyx> there was also some other technology like fram, but I don't remember now
2017-10-04T11:00:51 < zyp> hmm, I ran the numbers, I can wear out a 100k write cycles chip in about a month
2017-10-04T11:02:13 < qyx> not an option then
2017-10-04T11:02:44 < qyx> how large chip did you compute with?
2017-10-04T11:03:12 < zyp> your 8Mbit, producing around 40kB/s of data
2017-10-04T11:03:44 < qyx> uhm, the speed may be a problem too
2017-10-04T11:04:11 < zyp> yes, but that's a moot point if it'll wear out anyway
2017-10-04T11:06:20 < zyp> people just suggested "store the last second's worth of data before an error event and the first second after"
2017-10-04T11:07:26 < zyp> which means that if I'm producing data at 40kB/s (ballpark figure), I need a ringbuffer of at least 40k to keep data I might need to log
2017-10-04T11:07:39 < zyp> and I'd rather not spend that much ram on that
2017-10-04T11:08:16 < zyp> so it would be convenient if I could just put the ringbuffer itself in nonvolatile memory
2017-10-04T11:10:02 < sync> external ram :P
2017-10-04T11:10:30 < qyx> yeah
2017-10-04T11:10:34 < qyx> there are sram memmories
2017-10-04T11:10:36 < qyx> with flash backup
2017-10-04T11:11:03 < qyx> they are able to save the sram buffer to the flash when they detect a brownout
2017-10-04T11:11:44 < zyp> any particular part numbers?
2017-10-04T11:12:45 < qyx> CY14B101Q1 for example
2017-10-04T11:12:50 < qyx> quantumtrap!
2017-10-04T11:13:36 < qyx> CY14B101Q2 actually, Q1 apparently misses that required feature
2017-10-04T11:14:37 < zyp> that goes under "spi fram or similar" :)
2017-10-04T11:15:02 < zyp> https://edevice.fujitsu.com/fj/DATASHEET/e-ds/MB85RS1MT-DS501-00022-6v0-E.pdf
2017-10-04T11:15:17 < zyp> looks pin compatible and all
2017-10-04T11:16:03 < qyx> 10^13 write operations
2017-10-04T11:16:18 < zyp> that should be pretty hard to wear out
2017-10-04T11:17:10 < qyx> ok, agreed
2017-10-04T11:26:13 < zyp> hmm
2017-10-04T11:26:29 < zyp> in addition to this, the other stuff people want to "log" is mostly counters
2017-10-04T11:27:02 < zyp> hours powered, hours active, and so on
2017-10-04T11:27:20 < zyp> that stuff would also fit better in nvram than flash
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2017-10-04T11:36:09 < stvn> steffan
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2017-10-04T11:57:51 < Steffanx> Stvn
2017-10-04T11:58:09 < stvn> well hello there
2017-10-04T11:58:37 < Steffanx> Lo
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2017-10-04T12:00:56 < stvn> i like your new channel topix
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2017-10-04T12:07:21 < dongs> haha
2017-10-04T12:31:07 < Steffanx> :D
2017-10-04T12:31:43 < Steffanx> Why didnt you take part stvn ?
2017-10-04T12:37:22 < stvn> lol
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2017-10-04T12:53:46 < stvn> Steffanx welcome, hello
2017-10-04T12:57:45 < Steffanx> Thank you. Welcome
2017-10-04T13:03:58 < stvn> always good
2017-10-04T13:09:01 < stvn> Pas op!
2017-10-04T13:10:15 < stvn> gebroken oude theepot
2017-10-04T13:15:09 < karlp> zyp: microchip has some non-fram nv eeram stuff too, and I think I just got some spam from cypress?
2017-10-04T13:15:43 < karlp> they were using just a flash backed sram, with the power out detection and writing to flash handled internally
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2017-10-04T13:38:07 < zyp> had a meeting, discussed options, ended up with "fuck that, we don't want to pay for nvram that costs ten times as much as spi flash, we don't need to save that often anyway"
2017-10-04T13:38:43 < karlp> yeah, the ones I got spammed on recently were in the "not really very cheap" level
2017-10-04T13:40:19 < jpa-> last year i was in a meeting "we have 100 000 devices with these flash chips deployed on the field, and they are failing fast now after 5 years of operation - what do we do"
2017-10-04T13:41:19 < BrainDamage> a) panic
2017-10-04T13:41:21 < fest> did they get past choosing a suitable scapegoat?
2017-10-04T13:41:49 < karlp> b) we only offer manufacturer warranty of 2 years, so.... no problem.
2017-10-04T13:42:35 < karlp> hrm. old binwalk detects three lzma sections, won't extract them as "unknown length"
2017-10-04T13:42:44 < karlp> new binwalk doesn't detect them.
2017-10-04T13:42:45 < jpa-> unfortunately they had promised 10 years :P
2017-10-04T13:43:12 < jpa-> ended up remote updating to reduce the number of writes and retain atleast some functionality with failed flash, and planning to replace them all
2017-10-04T13:43:32 < karlp> nice that you had remote update functionality :)
2017-10-04T13:45:49 < jpa-> yeah.. and nice also that i had nothing to do with that project except they hoped i'd have some magic solution (didn't)
2017-10-04T13:47:09 < dongs> was it some smartmeter shit
2017-10-04T13:47:46 < jpa-> can't really disclose too much, but no, more like monitoring stuff
2017-10-04T13:48:34 < jpa-> probably similar requirements though, needing to make sure all samples are stored somewhere in case power cuts off before being able to transmit them
2017-10-04T13:50:06 < qyx> 100k sounds like.. too many
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2017-10-04T13:51:35 < qyx> zyp: so your issue is resolved with a spi flash?
2017-10-04T13:57:15 < Steffanx> Wasnt your issue a weird one jpa- ? Not directly related to flash wearing out?
2017-10-04T13:58:11 < jpa-> it was weird indeed, couldn't be sure that it is flash wear or something else
2017-10-04T13:58:47 < jpa-> the flash chips were failing, but when we intentionally wrote to them millions of times they failed in a different way
2017-10-04T13:59:38 < zyp> qyx, more like the requirements are not super well defined, and when I presented the realities in a meeting, people concluded that they didn't want to pay ten times as much as the spi flash costs
2017-10-04T13:59:47 < jpa-> IIRC on the field they failed with single bits randomly not being fully erased, whereas in lab they failed with erase stopping working altogether on the affected pages
2017-10-04T14:00:11 < zyp> since the spi frams are footprint compatible, we'll always have the option to use those as a drop in replacement later
2017-10-04T14:00:38 < jpa-> and the write counts observed in lab were a lot higher than what should be occurring on the field.. but they found some software bugs that might have changed that
2017-10-04T14:08:20 < dongs> https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1507105353181.webm
2017-10-04T14:08:27 < dongs> Laurenceb-class stupidity
2017-10-04T14:10:22 < karlp> wow
2017-10-04T14:11:41 < BrainDamage> i like how he kept addressing the online crowd
2017-10-04T14:24:48 < Laurenceb> that was what he was planning all along
2017-10-04T14:24:55 < Laurenceb> seems smart to me.. right
2017-10-04T14:25:31 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgjar.co/jar/5TNW-4TlIUK6misCi4eTGA.jpg
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2017-10-04T14:29:54 < Laurenceb> http://www.elementstudios.co.uk/first-light-fusion-oxford/
2017-10-04T14:29:58 < Laurenceb> my sides.jpg
2017-10-04T14:30:14 < Laurenceb> >  make cold-fusion a reality.
2017-10-04T14:30:29 < Laurenceb> > spend money on office furniture consultants
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2017-10-04T14:59:13 < kakimir> I need to draw 1A from a phone charger
2017-10-04T14:59:22 < kakimir> and from a generic PC platform
2017-10-04T14:59:26 < kakimir> both
2017-10-04T14:59:39 < dongs> yo udon't control what you draw
2017-10-04T14:59:43 < dongs> you query the charger what you CAN draw
2017-10-04T14:59:48 < dongs> or you can smoke
2017-10-04T14:59:54 < kakimir> no it wont
2017-10-04T15:00:18 < dongs> you cant draw > 500mA from USB2.0
2017-10-04T15:00:37 < kakimir> but phone charger has 2.1A output
2017-10-04T15:00:40 < sync> rip honda
2017-10-04T15:00:50 < kakimir> what did honda do?
2017-10-04T15:01:02 < sync> it got crashed in dongs vid
2017-10-04T15:01:11 < kakimir> dongs: so phone chargers are not effectivelly usb2.0
2017-10-04T15:01:12 < dongs> http://www.reuters.com/article/us-honda-strategy/honda-to-stop-output-at-one-japan-plant-by-2022-as-domestic-sales-stagnate-idUSKCN1C90N3?il=0
2017-10-04T15:01:56 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/bdorbGL.jpg
2017-10-04T15:02:12 < sync> the fuck, they only make 1.06M units a year?
2017-10-04T15:02:15 < sync> holy shit
2017-10-04T15:02:32 < kakimir> sync: anything for fames
2017-10-04T15:02:50 < kakimir> destroy old honda - check
2017-10-04T15:08:25 < Laurenceb> http://njfcommercial.co.uk/office_fit-out/
2017-10-04T15:08:27 < Laurenceb> lulling
2017-10-04T15:08:51 < kakimir> dongs: how about computer usb?
2017-10-04T15:09:04 < kakimir> it spits out everything it got?
2017-10-04T15:09:09 < Laurenceb> >how does someone spend UKP50M on bullshit
2017-10-04T15:09:16 < Laurenceb> >answer becomes apparent
2017-10-04T15:09:32 < kakimir> until circuit protection activates
2017-10-04T15:11:59 < jadew> Laurenceb, what's that?
2017-10-04T15:12:07 < jadew> and why are you looking into it?
2017-10-04T15:12:12 < Laurenceb> jadew: a cold fusion startup
2017-10-04T15:12:21 < Laurenceb> cuz they have lots of jerbs advertised
2017-10-04T15:12:36 < Laurenceb> and general amusement
2017-10-04T15:12:38 < jadew> ah, so a scam?
2017-10-04T15:14:19 < Laurenceb> looks like it
2017-10-04T15:14:36 < Laurenceb> they have >ukp50M in the bank
2017-10-04T15:14:56 < jadew> which I guess they have to spend before they can say they're bankrupt?
2017-10-04T15:15:16 < sync> well then milk them Laurenceb?
2017-10-04T15:15:31 < Laurenceb> heh
2017-10-04T15:15:59 < jadew> sync, that's great thinking
2017-10-04T15:16:05 < BrainDamage> ask if they need a professional irc shiposter position
2017-10-04T15:16:33 < jadew> BrainDamage, they probably don't need a lot of shit, but they're willing to pay for it anyway
2017-10-04T15:17:18 < sync> Well, they are gonna spend it all in cool shit and then fold
2017-10-04T15:17:20 < BrainDamage> well, since they are scammers they do need a social media figure to keep in check the sane people and spread the lies
2017-10-04T15:17:37 < Laurenceb> they need Sam Hyde
2017-10-04T15:17:55 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yFhR1fKWG0
2017-10-04T15:17:57 < jadew> that's a good moto for a PR company
2017-10-04T15:18:04 < jadew> "We spread the lies, so you don't have to."
2017-10-04T15:18:35 < jadew> *motto
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2017-10-04T15:43:18 < jadew> google images is great, I did a search for this image and I got half naked men: https://cdn.liveleak.com/80281E/ll_a_s/2017/Sep/30/LiveLeak-dot-com--ezgifcom-optimize_1506749839.gif?v6n-TmfzbLTyUuB0hPXyvwUzGDOWh5VlLfHw6jKolYhG7rekHwRzPg0gCcDRh217&ec_rate=499
2017-10-04T15:44:30 < jadew> tineye.com delivers
2017-10-04T15:47:28 < jadew> now I need to find a way to use that instead of the busy cursor
2017-10-04T15:51:45 < dongs> are you 13 or something
2017-10-04T15:51:58 < dongs> you link to the most retarded shit ive ever seen
2017-10-04T15:55:23 < zyp> haha
2017-10-04T15:57:23 < Laurenceb> no homo
2017-10-04T15:57:25 < Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41493370
2017-10-04T15:57:37 < Laurenceb> To add to her woes, some of the letters fell off the conference stage backdrop. By the end it read: "Building a country that works or everyon."
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2017-10-04T16:03:51 < jadew> dongs, you should see the stuff I'm not linking
2017-10-04T16:12:07 < jadew> Laurenceb, who's that chick?
2017-10-04T16:12:58 < Laurenceb> https://img1.etsystatic.com/200/0/9969896/il_570xN.1261867879_jadq.jpg
2017-10-04T16:13:13 < jadew> lol
2017-10-04T16:14:16 < jadew> now I know what I'm gonna watch today
2017-10-04T16:19:40 < Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34423387
2017-10-04T16:20:10 < Laurenceb> > Regulars call this the "Beta uprising" and stand opposed to alpha males and females, known as "Chads" and "Stacys", as well as what they call "normies".
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2017-10-04T16:49:06 < hdt551> Could someone tell me if internal pullup/pulldown resistors stay active when a stm32f4 is placed in sleep mode? I think they do, but I couldn't find a definitive statement in the datasheet.
2017-10-04T17:08:24 < englishman> should be? as long as you don't shut down the gpio clocks
2017-10-04T17:08:35 < englishman> i think, they are still enabled even if you shut down the gpio clocks
2017-10-04T17:11:20 < englishman> it's only in standby mode, with the internal rail shut completely off that register state and therefore gpio state is lost
2017-10-04T17:11:22 < englishman> iirc
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2017-10-04T17:27:06 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-10-04T17:27:18 < Laurenceb> well thats how it is on F1 anyway
2017-10-04T17:28:46 < Laurenceb> https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.228563400.1488/ra,unisex_tshirt,x2200,fafafa:ca443f4786,front-c,392,146,750,1000-bg,f8f8f8.lite-1.jpg
2017-10-04T17:30:00 < englishman> yeah let us know which chip and we can show you where to look
2017-10-04T17:30:28 < Laurenceb> he said f4
2017-10-04T17:30:36 < englishman> so he did
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2017-10-04T17:57:32 < hdt551> Since I will want to reduce power consumption as much as possible and still wake with a EXTI, I think I'll add a footprint for a resistor, just in case.
2017-10-04T18:08:53 < aandrew> good idea
2017-10-04T18:12:33 < hdt551> thanks for the information.
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2017-10-04T18:17:27 < aandrew> I haven't tried much low power stuff with STM32
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2017-10-04T19:37:44 < englishman> pretty sure its only standby where register info is lost
2017-10-04T19:38:11 < englishman> you can still wakeup from exti in stop mode, so gpio registers have to have known state
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2017-10-04T20:01:56 < hdt551> englishman: I will see if stop mode is low-power enough for my purposes. Thanks.
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2017-10-04T20:18:30 < fest> crap
2017-10-04T20:18:34 < fest> Cortex-M7 ETM is compliant with ARM ETM architecture v4, which programming
2017-10-04T20:18:36 < fest> model is not backward compatible with Cortex-M4 ETM one
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2017-10-04T20:28:48 < Tectu> mail@consultfortodaysnews.com; on behalf of; Bitcoin Team <newsletter@consultfortodaysnews.com>
2017-10-04T20:29:09 < Tectu> You will be making about $350-$500
2017-10-04T20:29:09 < Tectu> per day when you join now!
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2017-10-04T20:29:09 < Tectu> </hyperlink>
2017-10-04T20:29:13 < Tectu> that looks legit.
2017-10-04T20:29:43 < Tectu> lol, the e-mail subject:   Make sure you check this. (open up)
2017-10-04T20:34:40 < englishman> hdt551 there's a pretty neat power analyzer in stm32cube
2017-10-04T20:35:10 < BrainDamage> governments hate this! learn this simple trick this sysadmin discovered about cryptocurrencies
2017-10-04T20:44:56  * zyp steals all Tectu's bitcoin
2017-10-04T20:45:14 < Tectu> don´t bother. I don´t have money
2017-10-04T20:45:26 < Steffanx> Swissers only have our gold.
2017-10-04T20:45:26 < Tectu> I don´t even have apostrophes.
2017-10-04T20:45:33 < Tectu> not yours
2017-10-04T20:45:37 < Steffanx> Yes also ours
2017-10-04T20:45:42 < Tectu> no
2017-10-04T20:45:44 < Tectu> all mine
2017-10-04T20:45:45 < Tectu> ours*
2017-10-04T20:45:49 < zyp> aww
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2017-10-04T20:46:03 < Steffanx> Stealing something doesnt make it yours.
2017-10-04T20:46:17  * zyp grabs Steffanx' bitcoin then
2017-10-04T20:46:38  * jpa- steals Steffanx's x
2017-10-04T20:46:47 < Tectu> it was given to us, Steffanx
2017-10-04T20:46:48 < Steffanx> better give me your wallet id then zyp
2017-10-04T20:47:08 < Steffanx> or whatever you use to give someone buttcoins
2017-10-04T20:47:12 < zyp> 3N9Nch52CU9UYsq2ywxT5W25CS8FB93wYX
2017-10-04T20:47:33 < englishman> possession is 10/10ths of possession
2017-10-04T20:47:34 < Steffanx> no qr code?
2017-10-04T20:48:28 < zyp> kinda hard to send qrs over irc
2017-10-04T20:48:56 < englishman> /play zypsbuttcoinqr.txt
2017-10-04T20:49:04 < zyp> https://blockchain.info/qr?data=3N9Nch52CU9UYsq2ywxT5W25CS8FB93wYX&size=200
2017-10-04T20:49:08 < zyp> good enough?
2017-10-04T20:50:20 < Steffanx> Yep.
2017-10-04T20:50:31 < zyp> haha, thanks
2017-10-04T20:50:48 < Steffanx> Such hugh amount
2017-10-04T20:50:52 < Steffanx> *huge
2017-10-04T20:50:57 < Steffanx> like 0.0000001
2017-10-04T20:51:20 < zyp> $5-ish
2017-10-04T20:51:57 < englishman> looks like it came straight out of a tumbler
2017-10-04T20:52:13 < Steffanx> it did work though
2017-10-04T20:53:56 < upgrdman> any reason why transistor networks are more expensive than discrete transistors? e.g. dual 2n7002 is > 2x price of 2n7002
2017-10-04T20:54:15 < englishman> far more niche
2017-10-04T20:54:31 < upgrdman> needing a bunch of transistors is niche?
2017-10-04T20:55:08 < englishman> needing exactly two nfets in a single package
2017-10-04T20:55:14 < zyp> Steffanx, you still have BCH on that address too, by the way
2017-10-04T20:55:24 < zyp> since it's from before the fork
2017-10-04T20:55:28 < upgrdman> englishman, ya but 4 or 8 in a package is even more expensive
2017-10-04T20:55:35 < englishman> even more niche
2017-10-04T20:56:21 < Steffanx> im so not into buttcoin that i have no clue what you're talkign about zyp
2017-10-04T20:56:39 < zyp> bitcoin forked on aug 1st
2017-10-04T20:57:05 < kakimir> what is forked?
2017-10-04T20:57:11 < Steffanx> buttcoin it seems
2017-10-04T20:57:12 < zyp> the blockchain
2017-10-04T20:57:31 < zyp> so all addrs holding a balance as of aug 1st came out with both a BTC balance and a BCH balance
2017-10-04T20:57:49 < zyp> BCH is currently worth about a tenth of BTC, so there's $.5 worth of BCH in that addr
2017-10-04T20:57:55 < zyp> ref https://www.blocktrail.com/BCC/address/1MEW4Urkjk6bHcW4skSDuoYryy6Uxver4T
2017-10-04T20:58:17 < kakimir> I don't understand a shit
2017-10-04T20:58:48 < englishman> someone typed git clone bitcoin and renamed the dir to bitcoincash
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2017-10-04T20:58:58 < englishman> so now it exists alongside original bitcoin
2017-10-04T20:59:42 < englishman> since they cloned on aug1 all existing stuff before than was included in the new form
2017-10-04T20:59:43 < englishman> fork
2017-10-04T21:00:16 < kakimir> another currency_?
2017-10-04T21:00:20 < zyp> yes
2017-10-04T21:01:00 < zyp> bitcoin is a blockchain, each block is identified by hash, and contains a reference to the previous block hash
2017-10-04T21:01:04 < zyp> just like git commits
2017-10-04T21:01:22 < zyp> when you have two blocks with the same parent, you have a fork, just like in git
2017-10-04T21:01:38 < kakimir> too complex
2017-10-04T21:09:40 < qyx> no, just imagine how your coins in the wallet fork
2017-10-04T21:11:22  * kakimir *sipsbeer*
2017-10-04T21:11:53 < kakimir> I don't really know what it implies qyx
2017-10-04T21:12:10 < kakimir> and why would someone fork it
2017-10-04T21:12:17 < zyp> kakimir, you end up with two independent copies of it
2017-10-04T21:12:24 < zyp> i.e. two separate currencies
2017-10-04T21:13:11 < zyp> BCH forked from BTC due to a conflict over development direction
2017-10-04T21:14:08 < zyp> somebody said «fine then, we'll just start going in our own direction then, bye»
2017-10-04T21:16:23 < englishman> as is tradition with opensource
2017-10-04T21:16:29 < zyp> the thing that is important to understand about bitcoin is that bitcoins themselves doesn't exist
2017-10-04T21:17:17 < zyp> the blocks contain transactions, so the blockchain is a complete transaction history of the network
2017-10-04T21:17:58 < englishman> if anyone is interested, i got a defective panel of one of my pcbs today from the pcbfab. it's a 4L design and was rejected after the outer layers were bonded together due to airbubbles. the next step after this would have been drilling and plating https://i.imgur.com/F9sulJm.jpg?1
2017-10-04T21:18:05 < zyp> each transaction has a number of outputs, and details the conditions for a new transaction to spend that output
2017-10-04T21:19:18 < zyp> usually the output lists a pubkey, and the spend condition is to sign the spending transaction with the corresponding privkey
2017-10-04T21:19:30 < Steffanx> Sexy, englishman.
2017-10-04T21:20:00 < zyp> when the chain forks, each fork can have transactions spending unspent outputs from before the fork
2017-10-04T21:22:38 < zyp> but transactions on one side of the fork can't spend outputs from the other side that doesn't exist in their shared history
2017-10-04T21:22:52 < zyp> which is why a fork results in two independent currencies
2017-10-04T21:24:37 < zyp> Steffanx' output is dated jul. 18, so it exists on both chains
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2017-10-04T22:02:35 < Laurenceb_> https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/making-on-the-move-featured.jpg?w=800
2017-10-04T22:05:57 < zyp> nice
2017-10-04T22:06:34 < Laurenceb_> dat ass
2017-10-04T22:06:59 < Steffanx> Gay Laurenceb is a male.
2017-10-04T22:08:17 < Fleck> disgrace to human males :D just like dongs
2017-10-04T22:08:17 < Steffanx> (at least that was he must be according to ##stm32 wisedom)
2017-10-04T22:08:40 < kakimir> ##gays32
2017-10-04T22:22:37 < Steffanx> can we sauna with you kakimir?
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2017-10-04T23:27:28 < Laurenceb_> https://www.ipo.gov.uk/p-ipsum/Case/PublicationNumber/GB2493361
2017-10-04T23:51:46 < invzim> wizards...
2017-10-04T23:51:51 < invzim> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8P7XCTh21esMHRKUzJVVXR0Ykk
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2017-10-04T23:52:18 < invzim> anyone know what 3b=3k s2a is?
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2017-10-04T23:52:46 < invzim> 5v goes in at the top, nothing comes out
2017-10-04T23:53:07 < invzim> but looks to me like some kind of switcher given the coil
2017-10-04T23:59:00 < Laurenceb_> dat compact pcb layout
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2017-10-05T00:01:26 < dongs> why is there wo coils
2017-10-05T00:01:27 < dongs> two
2017-10-05T00:02:20 < invzim> who knows, just messing about with a broken ubiquiti trying to learn something in the process
2017-10-05T00:02:44 < invzim> think it's this one http://www.richtek.com/en/Products/Switching%20Regulators/DC_DC%20StepDown%20Convertor/RT8058?specid=RT8058
2017-10-05T00:03:57 < dongs> For marking information, contact our sales representative
2017-10-05T00:03:57 < dongs> directly or through a Richtek distributor located in your
2017-10-05T00:03:57 < dongs> area.
2017-10-05T00:03:58 < dongs> but yeah
2017-10-05T00:04:02 < dongs> richtek marks with = in it
2017-10-05T00:10:08 < invzim> pinout and stuff seems to match
2017-10-05T00:10:16 < invzim> and it is dead \o/
2017-10-05T00:11:41  * invzim feels like louis rossmann
2017-10-05T00:15:14 < invzim> and since it has 0ohm resistors, I'm tempted to jerry-rig 1.2V into it to see if the damn thing works
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2017-10-05T00:21:32 < kakimir> movie recommds?
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2017-10-05T00:26:24 < kakimir> very good
2017-10-05T00:27:26 < kakimir> but I have seen it
2017-10-05T00:29:20 < kakimir> good movie genre
2017-10-05T00:31:40 < invzim> he, no worky - but that rail IS shorted to gnd
2017-10-05T00:38:54 < kakimir> superbia: name one movie of that genre
2017-10-05T00:39:12 < invzim> now this is odd, I jerry rigged it - turned up the amps to find the hot part
2017-10-05T00:39:31 < invzim> which I think I did, and then obviously something blew as the amps went to almost 0
2017-10-05T00:39:56 < invzim> and now I can see the 2.4 and 5g SSID's :)
2017-10-05T00:40:35 < kakimir> I did not understand anything in that movie
2017-10-05T00:41:57 < Thorn> what does this mean https://imgur.com/a/MS40f
2017-10-05T00:41:57 < Thorn> why does the Q factor increase with frequency
2017-10-05T00:43:02 < kakimir> appart from cool rich people stuff and Dakota Johnson being hot
2017-10-05T00:43:17 < invzim> he fuck me, the thing is working
2017-10-05T00:43:33 < invzim> repair by cleaning out something with 3A :)
2017-10-05T00:44:08 < kakimir> superbia: another title
2017-10-05T00:58:45 < jadew> Thorn, D = dissipation factor, Q = the reciprocal (how long can it ring)
2017-10-05T00:59:05 < jadew> it probably increases with frequency because higher frequencies are closer to its resonant frequency
2017-10-05T01:00:23 < Thorn> this is what I'm afraid of
2017-10-05T01:00:31 < Thorn> I need to run it at 1 MHz
2017-10-05T01:00:57 < Thorn> and the datashees is silent about the resonant frequency
2017-10-05T01:01:38 < Thorn> I should try and measure it with a signal generator
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2017-10-05T01:20:15 < upgrdman> lol. googles new phones have no headphone jacls.
2017-10-05T01:20:17 < upgrdman> jacks*
2017-10-05T01:20:24 < upgrdman> such courage. very wow.
2017-10-05T01:27:31 < jadew> why?
2017-10-05T01:27:49 < jadew> they came up with something better?
2017-10-05T01:27:59 < aandrew> https://i.redd.it/r2qdwb5yyupz.jpg fuck me I missed the ##stm32 meetup
2017-10-05T01:28:11 < jadew> haha
2017-10-05T01:28:12 < upgrdman> jadew, usb-c dongle for your headphones.
2017-10-05T01:28:28 < upgrdman> or bt i guess
2017-10-05T01:28:46 < jadew> upgrdman, good way of lowering sales
2017-10-05T01:28:53 < upgrdman> agreed
2017-10-05T01:29:04 < upgrdman> i dont think i would consider a phone without a headphone jack
2017-10-05T01:29:10 < jadew> me neither
2017-10-05T01:30:41 < jadew> aandrew, modern theather has changed a lot from what I remember it to be
2017-10-05T01:31:13 < jadew> (although it had nudity when I used to go to the teather too, but... female nudity)
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2017-10-05T01:53:06 < englishman> zyp: you were an electrician? does a GFI outlet require a ground connection to pass its selftest? how does it detect ground? it should be able to fault-trip without a ground right?
2017-10-05T01:53:20 < englishman> reason is, tried to add a gfi outlet to an (old) circuit with no earth
2017-10-05T01:53:26 < englishman> and it didnt power on
2017-10-05T01:53:31 < englishman> i'll add it upstream instead
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2017-10-05T01:55:09 < BrainDamage> englishman: GFI requires ground for selftest because of how it works
2017-10-05T01:55:35 < englishman> yeah i can see that, how does it detect earth? try to pass current thru it?
2017-10-05T01:55:39 < BrainDamage> it works by subtracting current in the 2 conductors, if the difference is > treshold, it trips
2017-10-05T01:55:45 < englishman> and it should still be able to trip without PE right
2017-10-05T01:56:03 < BrainDamage> so the self test works by steering some current into PE, so that there's asymmetry in the conductors
2017-10-05T01:56:04 < englishman> as it's just detecting differential current between hot and return
2017-10-05T01:56:09 < englishman> right ok
2017-10-05T01:56:12 < karlp> invzim: you may have reflowed a base pad by getting it hot enough?
2017-10-05T01:56:43 < BrainDamage> it will be able to trip without PE
2017-10-05T01:56:53 < BrainDamage> but it does need it for testing
2017-10-05T01:56:56 < englishman> yeah so i'll install it upstream where there is still earth
2017-10-05T01:57:01 < englishman> and downstream stuff will be gfi protected
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2017-10-05T01:57:29 < BrainDamage> also you should test the GFI every 6-12 months
2017-10-05T01:57:32 < BrainDamage> even if nobody does
2017-10-05T01:57:56 < BrainDamage> to make sure the contacts didn't cold weld or the spring lost the tension
2017-10-05T01:57:59 < englishman> yes i have a special testing fork
2017-10-05T01:59:01 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/sCzygqk.jpg?1
2017-10-05T01:59:20 < BrainDamage> that won't work if you plug both thines at once
2017-10-05T01:59:36 < englishman> NOW you tell me
2017-10-05T01:59:37 < BrainDamage> make sure to only plug one
2017-10-05T01:59:59 < englishman> i had to try every outlet in the house until i found the gfi ones
2017-10-05T02:00:24 < BrainDamage> i usually do after a relaxing shower
2017-10-05T02:00:34 < BrainDamage> while I'm still drying up
2017-10-05T02:00:43 < englishman> yes and during a thunderstorm
2017-10-05T02:00:53 < englishman> to capture the free electricity in the air
2017-10-05T02:03:01 < Thorn> there is firmware for sdg2000x with unlocked root on the eevblog forum
2017-10-05T02:07:35 < jadew> wow, the price of that sig gen is amazing
2017-10-05T02:09:59 < Thorn> why didn't they add l00nix commands to control the gen from the command line :/
2017-10-05T02:10:39 < jadew> well, find the program that runs the thing, fire up IDA and get hacking :)
2017-10-05T02:11:09 < jadew> Thorn, do you have it?
2017-10-05T02:11:13 < Thorn> as opposed to finding a LXI/SCPI client?
2017-10-05T02:11:19 < Thorn> yes, for a year
2017-10-05T02:11:31 < jadew> any problems with it?
2017-10-05T02:11:39 < Thorn> none
2017-10-05T02:11:46  * Thorn knocks on wood
2017-10-05T02:12:00 < jadew> does it have good dual channel functionality?
2017-10-05T02:12:37 < jadew> freq ratio and things like that?
2017-10-05T02:14:09 < Thorn> I'm pretty sure you can do phase offset, probably frequency ratio too
2017-10-05T02:14:31 < Thorn> you need to enable dual channel mode in system menu first though
2017-10-05T02:16:36 < Thorn> yes, there is freq ratio and deviation in the menu
2017-10-05T02:18:17 < Thorn> it can also output ch1 + ch2 on ch1
2017-10-05T02:18:18 < jadew> nice, looks awesome for the price
2017-10-05T02:18:35 < jadew> I mean, looks awesome and the price is great
2017-10-05T02:21:50 < aandrew> lol special testing fork
2017-10-05T02:22:02 < aandrew> that is like my German spoon of power?
2017-10-05T02:23:23 < aandrew> a signal generator is one of those things I"ve used like twice in my entire career
2017-10-05T02:23:36 < aandrew> I have a little handheld shitty velleman one
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2017-10-05T02:24:13 < jadew> I use them on a daily basis
2017-10-05T02:25:05 < aandrew> really
2017-10-05T02:25:23 < jadew> yep, but I do mainly RF these days
2017-10-05T02:25:32 < jadew> but arbitrary ones like that siglent are good even for digital stuff
2017-10-05T02:25:51 < jadew> you can capture a problem with the scope then play it back with the sig gen
2017-10-05T02:26:12 < aandrew> sure I can see that
2017-10-05T02:29:13 < aandrew> what rf stuff do you tend to work on
2017-10-05T02:30:43 < jadew> I have a couple of projects I can't disclose right now, but they involve the usual blocks (gain amplifiers, mixers, etc)
2017-10-05T02:31:07 < jadew> so it's very useful to be able to inject various signals
2017-10-05T02:36:23 < Thorn> I received 51822 boards today, packed in bubble wrap without any antistatic bag :/ hope they're alive
2017-10-05T02:36:32 < Thorn> good job aliexpress seller
2017-10-05T02:36:35 < englishman> ESD is a jewish conspiracy
2017-10-05T02:39:24 < Laurenceb_> https://images.encyclopediadramatica.rs/thumb/f/f8/Andrew_anglin_yellow_fever.jpg/300px-Andrew_anglin_yellow_fever.jpg
2017-10-05T02:39:38 < jadew> Thorn, can you confirm it looks like that at 120 MHz? https://youtu.be/_Mup2VnXH_k?t=1285
2017-10-05T02:40:00 < jadew> (looks quite distorted)
2017-10-05T02:40:33 < Thorn> well my scope only goes up to 100
2017-10-05T02:40:45 < jadew> should still be visible
2017-10-05T02:40:57 < Thorn> it'd still be fun to try though
2017-10-05T02:41:35 < jadew> you can check the FFT if it's not clear from what you see in the time domain
2017-10-05T02:41:49 < englishman> Steffanx: ops plz
2017-10-05T02:41:54 < englishman> going to ban Laurenceb_ for small images
2017-10-05T02:42:20 < Laurenceb_> lel
2017-10-05T02:42:33 < Laurenceb_> too lazy to go past google images
2017-10-05T02:43:07 < Laurenceb_> for jewish conspiracy guy
2017-10-05T02:50:26 < upgrdman> nice popsicles  https://i.imgur.com/c9OOihF.jpg
2017-10-05T02:51:49 < Thorn> jadew: this is what it looks like in equ time https://imgur.com/a/xLs1T
2017-10-05T02:52:45 < jadew> thanks, it's not visible from that if it's distorted or not
2017-10-05T02:53:21 < Thorn> unfortunately that is the timebase limit
2017-10-05T02:53:42 < Thorn> but IMO it looks better than what Dave shows
2017-10-05T02:53:59 < BrainDamage> that's because your scope is acting as a bandpass
2017-10-05T02:54:00 < jadew> yeah, seems so
2017-10-05T02:54:06 < BrainDamage> sorry, lowpass
2017-10-05T02:54:06 < jadew> that could be too
2017-10-05T02:54:17 < BrainDamage> if you chop the higher harmonics only the base sine will remain
2017-10-05T02:54:33 < BrainDamage> you need a scope with 3 to 5 times the bandwith in order to properly see the distortion
2017-10-05T02:55:02 < Thorn> I'm accepting scope donations
2017-10-05T02:55:22 < BrainDamage> I'm just saying as a test it's kinda useless
2017-10-05T02:55:34 < jadew> well, it would still show something in the frequency domain
2017-10-05T02:55:43 < BrainDamage> not particularry
2017-10-05T02:55:55 < BrainDamage> you're more sensitive, but chopped harmonics are chopped harmics
2017-10-05T02:56:01 < Thorn> my rigol has horrible fft, I don't even want to try lol
2017-10-05T02:56:12 < jadew> yeah, they'd be greatly attenuated, but they'd still be there
2017-10-05T02:56:26 < jadew> IIRC the 3 dB BW of that scope is something around 150 MHz, no?
2017-10-05T02:56:43 < Thorn> I read that too
2017-10-05T02:56:44 < jadew> if it's not a brick wall after that point, you may still see some good harmonics
2017-10-05T02:57:37 < Thorn> in my picture it's @ 500mV/div, ~7 divisions = 3.5V and the gen amplitude was 7 or 8V
2017-10-05T02:58:35 < Thorn> 8V actually
2017-10-05T02:59:13 < Thorn> so it appears to be beyond the 3dB point
2017-10-05T03:00:47 < jadew> yeah
2017-10-05T03:02:11 < Thorn> with FFT https://imgur.com/a/cqEcD
2017-10-05T03:03:15 < Thorn> why 500MSa, the 2nd channel is off
2017-10-05T03:04:09 < jadew> you can see the second harmonic in there
2017-10-05T03:05:08 < Laurenceb_> http://ssi.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/SSI_NIAC2017_Slides.pdf
2017-10-05T03:05:12 < Laurenceb_> looks legit
2017-10-05T03:05:57 < Laurenceb_> Thorn: wtf resolution
2017-10-05T03:06:57 < Thorn> dunno, maybe it thinks it's a 6GHz spectrum analyzer or something
2017-10-05T03:08:11 < Thorn> >Cut the Siglent voltage to 4v and I bet those sine waves clean up nicely as on the Rigol.
2017-10-05T03:08:14 < Thorn> from comments
2017-10-05T03:14:57 < jadew> anyone still using analog scopes?
2017-10-05T03:20:19 < jadew> there are so many electronics channels now
2017-10-05T03:20:59 < Thorn> wtf https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1R-9999999R-Seven-Decade-Programmable-Resistor-Board-Step-1R-1-1-2-Watt-adjustable-resistor-slide/32772659743.html
2017-10-05T03:21:30 < jadew> rotary switches too expensive
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2017-10-05T03:28:42 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/72wvda/the_very_latest_data_on_the_woodward_mega_drive/
2017-10-05T03:28:47 < Laurenceb_> lul @ comments
2017-10-05T03:29:17 < Laurenceb_> > Everything you think is true is not true. You don’t know anything about physics.
2017-10-05T03:29:28 < Laurenceb_> > Everything you’ve ever said, and everything you will ever say is completely wrong.
2017-10-05T03:29:46 < Thorn> that's why my circuits don't work :/
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2017-10-05T03:32:17 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/6y1jn2/new_emdrive_paper_universal_theory_of_general/dnqtrxf/
2017-10-05T03:32:20 < Laurenceb_> top kek
2017-10-05T03:34:16 < englishman> wow
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2017-10-05T03:47:23 < BrainDamage> sega mega drive
2017-10-05T03:47:29 < BrainDamage> goddamn, i can't sleep today
2017-10-05T03:58:06 < englishman> its the innovation hour
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2017-10-05T06:20:36 < crtmate> fuckin' toll dicked me
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2017-10-05T09:11:53 < jadew> keysight has a scope that needs 1200 W
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2017-10-05T09:12:58 < crtmate> for the gigawatt
2017-10-05T09:13:09 < jadew> http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/5990-9712EN.pdf?id=2169590
2017-10-05T09:13:12 < jadew> page 37
2017-10-05T09:13:34 < crtmate> thanks
2017-10-05T09:13:43 < crtmate> i recapicitored the whole thing mate
2017-10-05T09:14:13 < zyp> englishman, I'm not familiar with GFI outlets, we don't have them here
2017-10-05T09:14:38 < zyp> but normal GFI circuit breakers does not connect to ground at all, and doesn't need it for the test functionality
2017-10-05T09:15:43 < zyp> the test button on a GFI circuit breaker connects a resistor between one line before the summation coil and the other line after the summation coil
2017-10-05T09:16:34 < zyp> causing a leakage outside the summation coil, resulting in an imbalance in the current going through the coil and thus a nonzero sum
2017-10-05T09:17:55 < zyp> for a GFI to trip, it doesn't have to leak to ground, current just needs to have return path outside the coil to cause a nonzero sum through the coil
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2017-10-05T09:18:21 < zyp> for real world faults that return path is of course usually through ground
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2017-10-05T09:43:35 < crtmate> sounds the norm to me in straya zyp
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2017-10-05T10:53:49 < stvn> the pig
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2017-10-05T11:05:50 < Thorn> anyone used https://lcsc.com/
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2017-10-05T11:25:51 < stvn> chinese
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2017-10-05T11:45:52 < stvn> i am shopping
2017-10-05T11:45:54 < stvn> for capacitors
2017-10-05T12:05:34 < dongs> when are you not
2017-10-05T12:08:17 < stvn> good question
2017-10-05T12:08:34 < stvn> usually when i'm shopping for BJTs
2017-10-05T12:13:17 < dongs> blow job transistors
2017-10-05T12:13:50 < dongs> im in taiwan ready to fail again
2017-10-05T12:16:52 < stvn> wut
2017-10-05T12:17:08 < stvn> wtf are you doing there?
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2017-10-05T12:22:32 < zyp> kickstarting
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2017-10-05T12:24:44 < stvn> are you there with him :3
2017-10-05T12:25:25 < zyp> no
2017-10-05T12:26:08 < stvn> that's no fun
2017-10-05T12:26:14 < dongs> yes dickstarting
2017-10-05T12:26:17 < dongs> place is moving to a new office
2017-10-05T12:26:26 < dongs> cuz they're out of money
2017-10-05T12:26:26 < dongs> lol
2017-10-05T12:26:29 < stvn> lol
2017-10-05T12:26:35 < stvn> sounds very zano doesn't it
2017-10-05T12:26:46 < dongs> totes
2017-10-05T12:27:05 < stvn> i'm sure what they're doing is nowhere near as asperger
2017-10-05T12:27:23 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/pXUTTvo.jpg
2017-10-05T12:28:14 < qyx> handcrafted https://i.imgur.com/j4DAlmp.jpg
2017-10-05T12:28:18 < qyx> pure bio
2017-10-05T12:29:00 < stvn> i would like one please
2017-10-05T12:29:58 < dongs> stvn: its 100% autism
2017-10-05T12:30:08 < stvn> that's no good
2017-10-05T12:40:54 < stvn> i finished my autistic project
2017-10-05T12:42:20 < ohsix> what was it
2017-10-05T12:42:27 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/VNCoo1Y.jpg
2017-10-05T12:44:48 < jadew> qyx, what's that?
2017-10-05T12:44:49 < ohsix> nice
2017-10-05T12:45:12 < ohsix> stvn: what part was your work?
2017-10-05T12:45:43 < ohsix> i'm in the middle of building a massive clock with a pal
2017-10-05T12:46:07 < ohsix> it seems like something i might be able to make money off of w/ 3d printer :D
2017-10-05T12:46:36 < ohsix> need to experiment with resins and moulds
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2017-10-05T12:57:06 < qyx> jadew: vlf low noise amp, just a single opamp with some tweaks from http://www.dicks-website.eu/low_noise_amp_part2/part2.html
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2017-10-05T12:58:13 < stvn> i can almost hear mr.pease sayin '1 nanavolt per root hurtz'
2017-10-05T12:59:17 < stvn> seems stonertronics have just found this https://i.imgur.com/GkjH7o2.jpg
2017-10-05T13:00:01 < BrainDamage> qyx: what antennad do you use?
2017-10-05T13:00:25 < ohsix> a soldering iron is a suitable tool for servicing the battery
2017-10-05T13:00:31 < ohsix> to press the metal release
2017-10-05T13:00:52 < qyx> BrainDamage: hula hoop loop
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2017-10-05T13:03:01 < dongs> nice glue on caps
2017-10-05T13:03:19 < stvn> that's my cum
2017-10-05T13:03:24 < dongs> i bet
2017-10-05T13:03:36 < stvn> had to personalize the repair you know
2017-10-05T13:04:21 < stvn> it'll stop the cunts rattling off the board
2017-10-05T13:06:51 < stvn> and yes, 5mm LEDs bias the current mirror
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2017-10-05T13:12:04 < stvn> cum grenade
2017-10-05T13:12:15 < stvn> (wrong window)
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2017-10-05T13:26:20 < karlp> englishman: heh, I always thought dong energy had been a chinese company moving into scandi, was surprised when I saw it was native danish
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2017-10-05T13:28:22 < karlp> qyx: what does "pure bio" mean?
2017-10-05T13:31:23 < qyx> 5y old components, no pcb
2017-10-05T13:33:50 < BrainDamage> dead bug, both the construction tecnique and the animal, present in the box
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2017-10-05T13:40:16 < karlp> I don't get "bio" in this context?
2017-10-05T13:40:22 < karlp> is it an acronym or what?
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2017-10-05T14:25:50 < jpa-> could mean "biological waste", as in the slang for "pure shit"
2017-10-05T14:29:53 < qyx> it is just a concatenation of todays hype words like eco, pure, bio, raw, handrafted, etc.
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2017-10-05T15:47:52 < Thorn> >All over the work shipping (expect some countries )
2017-10-05T15:48:36 < karlp> nothing new there :)
2017-10-05T15:48:46 < karlp> let me guess, except russia?
2017-10-05T15:49:02 < BrainDamage> typically italy
2017-10-05T15:49:46 < Thorn> never seen anyone on aliexpress exclude russia
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2017-10-05T16:28:37 <@englishman> zyp: ok, I can see how that would work on a normal circuit breaker, where ground is not attached, in this case I was hooking up a GFI outlet, I was kind of surprised it would attempt to pass current to ground even in a safety-test scenario
2017-10-05T16:29:30 <@englishman> also surprised they are not required at all, here they are required for every kitchen and bathroom outlet, all outdoor outlets, hot tub and pool or other humid environment equipment circuits, etc
2017-10-05T16:29:43 < zyp> sounds weird to me too, I'd assume it'd test the same way and only need a ground hookup since it's a grounded socket
2017-10-05T16:30:10 <@englishman> well i'll see if it works when i hook it up in a place where there is earth
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2017-10-05T16:52:32 < qyx> is the gfi actually the same as a rcd?
2017-10-05T16:52:45 < qyx> only a different name or a different device?
2017-10-05T16:55:32 <@englishman> same thing afaik
2017-10-05T16:55:52 < zyp> I'm not aware of any difference, I assume both is just sum current detection
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2017-10-05T17:23:12 < dongs> sup dongs
2017-10-05T17:23:17 < dongs> biked for a couple hours
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2017-10-05T17:51:29 <@englishman> time to grab a bottle of this and relax https://i.imgur.com/GfZVaHI.jpg
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2017-10-05T17:53:11 < dongs> nice
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2017-10-05T18:03:47 <@englishman> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1424283429/tinda-finger
2017-10-05T18:05:54 < dongs> fuck, an actual useful and deliverable dickstarter
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2017-10-05T18:16:38 < karlp> well, deliverable...
2017-10-05T18:16:46 < karlp> let's not get too excited
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2017-10-05T18:18:39 <@englishman> dongs, how do you know how much to charge when theres a fuckload of pth headers to solder by hand
2017-10-05T18:18:47 <@englishman> like, soldering 10k pins takes a minimum amount of time
2017-10-05T18:18:52 <@englishman> or do you hire slaves for that
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2017-10-05T19:04:45 < tomeaton17> Hm cant compile with latest hal, LSE_STARTUP_TIMEOUT is not declared, must this be done in my code?
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2017-10-05T19:14:48 <@englishman> tomeaton17: what chip, what dev env?
2017-10-05T19:15:01 <@englishman> apparently i am far too cheap, 7 RFQs approved today
2017-10-05T19:15:46 < tomeaton17> englishman: STM32F042F6P6 using arm gcc but I managed to fix it I didn't copy over the new hal_conf which defined it
2017-10-05T19:16:44 <@englishman> ah yes
2017-10-05T19:16:51 <@englishman> actually i dont think that chip has LSE
2017-10-05T19:17:09 <@englishman> but something else would have to be defined that removed that requirement
2017-10-05T19:17:18 <@englishman> anyway 👍🏽
2017-10-05T19:18:33 < tomeaton17> I think it does have LSE
2017-10-05T19:18:53 < tomeaton17> Actually no youre right lol
2017-10-05T19:26:30 < tomeaton17> Size is going to be a big problem with this chip
2017-10-05T19:26:36 < tomeaton17> I don't think I will be able to use HAL
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2017-10-05T19:43:01 < Steffanx> The LL_* part could work.
2017-10-05T19:43:11 < Steffanx> englishman and mr dongs love it
2017-10-05T19:43:39 < Steffanx> they sleep with it, wake up with it, eat with it and go out with it.
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2017-10-05T20:44:11 < Steffanx> https://medium.com/@matheusmariano/new-macos-high-sierra-vulnerability-exposes-the-password-of-an-encrypted-apfs-container-b4f2f5326e79 ##stm32 approved
2017-10-05T20:51:12 <@englishman> tomeaton17: LL is much more compact than HAL yes, you can also write some simple blocking drivers yourself, i always seem to do that for SPI
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2017-10-05T22:00:15 < invzim> englishman: looked into getting a selectable soldering thing going?
2017-10-05T22:00:31 < invzim> just curious what the ballpark cost is
2017-10-05T22:02:09 < qyx> so apparently my vlf antenna works at least to some degree
2017-10-05T22:02:30 < qyx> I can clearly see some interference on the fft
2017-10-05T22:02:59 < qyx> which disappears almost fully when the antenna is placed on the ground
2017-10-05T22:04:13 < qyx> (in the garden far away from any electrical devices)
2017-10-05T22:05:02 < qyx> when it is placed vertically and pointing in the direction of the city, it picks a lot of noise
2017-10-05T22:06:06 <@englishman> invzim: guessing $75k
2017-10-05T22:07:23 <@englishman> hmm
2017-10-05T22:07:24 <@englishman> actually
2017-10-05T22:07:31 <@englishman> PILLARHOUSE JADE S-200 MKII
2017-10-05T22:07:32 <@englishman> $12k
2017-10-05T22:08:54 <@englishman> that is extremely reasonable
2017-10-05T22:09:50 <@englishman> 35 litres of nitrogen per minute O.o
2017-10-05T22:19:07 < ReadErr> better be making your own
2017-10-05T22:19:31 < ReadErr> free o2 as a byproduct
2017-10-05T22:19:44 <@englishman> flood the room with it
2017-10-05T22:19:48 <@englishman> foxconn in a euphoric state
2017-10-05T22:19:58 <@englishman> then die in the ensuing fireball
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2017-10-05T22:35:50 < Laurenceb_> foxcunt
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2017-10-05T23:19:24 < Laurenceb_> >Forget to opt out in donation my organs
2017-10-05T23:19:24 < Laurenceb_> >Get hit my a tram and die.
2017-10-05T23:19:24 < Laurenceb_> >Radfem has my cock attached to her
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2017-10-05T23:35:08 < kakimir> :D
2017-10-05T23:35:50 < kakimir> funny Laurenceb_
2017-10-05T23:41:51 < karlp> they made a new default fs in  new osx?
2017-10-05T23:41:59 < karlp> wasn't the old one called apple file system too?
2017-10-05T23:42:12 < karlp> and they give people a _choice_ of having it be case sensitive or not?
2017-10-05T23:42:17 < karlp> steve is clearly dead
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2017-10-06T00:14:45 < sync> upgrdman: the egg is in the basket.
2017-10-06T00:15:19 < upgrdman> sync, dunno what that means. package arrived and is good?
2017-10-06T00:15:44 < sync> Never watched spy movies?
2017-10-06T00:15:46 < sync> Yes.
2017-10-06T00:15:54 < sync> THX :)
2017-10-06T00:15:58 < upgrdman> lol, it's been a while. ok, cool. np.
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2017-10-06T01:24:34 < Rob235> why does canvas resizing suck so bad! I added a hermite resize to make it bearable
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2017-10-06T01:53:58 < upgrdman> emoji ball gag, lol  https://i.imgur.com/xljbRn3.jpg
2017-10-06T01:54:38 < capacitor> good morning englishman
2017-10-06T02:11:28 < aandrew> upgrdman: I don't have the option of endorsing you for anything
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2017-10-06T02:17:02 < upgrdman> aandrew, huh?
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2017-10-06T02:19:07 < aandrew> bah not you, englishman
2017-10-06T02:19:10 < aandrew> too many mans
2017-10-06T02:24:03 < capacitor> dongman
2017-10-06T02:24:05 < capacitor> steffanman
2017-10-06T02:33:19 <@englishman> aandrew: ???
2017-10-06T02:34:52 <@englishman> should be right on profile page
2017-10-06T02:36:14 <@englishman> my custom flex should be done tomorrow
2017-10-06T02:44:28 < capacitor> ty
2017-10-06T02:46:36 < capacitor> international nigga frier
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2017-10-06T03:14:25 < capacitor> esd wriststrap tourniquet
2017-10-06T03:25:42 < capacitor> Steffanx: i read there exists an annual teapot throwing competition in dutchland
2017-10-06T03:36:35 < upgrdman> so i was assembling a few PCBs earlier, and it dawned on me... the irony of my TVSs being shipped in antistatic packaging.
2017-10-06T03:36:49 < upgrdman> http://i.imgur.com/GLVkKLv.gif
2017-10-06T03:47:49 < capacitor> indeed
2017-10-06T03:50:03 < capacitor> c943
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2017-10-06T04:03:13 < ds2> you can't destroy your TVS's before you get them on the board!
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2017-10-06T04:23:48 < emeb_mac> yo ds2
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2017-10-06T04:35:29 < ds2> hey emeb_mac
2017-10-06T04:36:13 < emeb_mac> ds2: still doing BB stuff?
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2017-10-06T04:49:03 < ds2> emeb_mac: sort of... doing a bunch of things
2017-10-06T04:49:20 < ds2> lots of blue and not very energetic either ;)
2017-10-06T04:49:34 < emeb_mac> ds2: sounds fun
2017-10-06T04:49:55 < emeb_mac> ds2: been messing with STM32L432 lately. also not very energetic
2017-10-06T04:52:41 < ds2> L432? is that a M4 ?
2017-10-06T04:52:56 < emeb_mac> ds2: yes - M4F @80MHz max
2017-10-06T04:53:07 < emeb_mac> very small pkg - QFN32
2017-10-06T04:53:59 < emeb_mac> ds2: who makes a good BLE chip?
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2017-10-06T04:56:08 < ds2> QFN32 isn't that small
2017-10-06T04:56:26 < ds2> Nordic... least frustrating of them
2017-10-06T04:56:49 < emeb_mac> cool. how are the devtools?
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2017-10-06T05:05:39 < ds2> gcc works great
2017-10-06T05:05:44 < ds2> no stupid installer
2017-10-06T05:06:05 < ds2> plus that chip works in custom radio mode so I can easly get to xmit a carrier for antenna tuning
2017-10-06T05:06:23 < ds2> trying to do that is a major PITA with the microchip (former Atmel) stuff
2017-10-06T05:06:40 < ds2> haven't had a need for that on other chips yet
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2017-10-06T05:07:00 < ds2> it is a nice simple diag - xmit carrier, check for it with a spec an and move on
2017-10-06T05:07:51 < emeb_mac> that's cool
2017-10-06T05:08:16 < emeb_mac> looking around seems like most cheapo "maker" grade BLE modules are that TI CC2540
2017-10-06T05:08:33 < emeb_mac> gah - 8051 core.
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2017-10-06T05:17:15 <@englishman> there isnt a nrf24etc that does ble?
2017-10-06T05:17:21 <@englishman> or even nrf5x?
2017-10-06T05:18:03 < aandrew> nrf5x does BLE
2017-10-06T05:18:23 < aandrew> 24L01+ has same coding but can't do BLE
2017-10-06T05:19:14 < ds2> :) just go nordic
2017-10-06T05:19:19 < ds2> plenty of modules
2017-10-06T05:19:25 < ds2> nrf51's are fun
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2017-10-06T05:26:23 < aandrew> yep
2017-10-06T05:26:28 < aandrew> fairly decent support too
2017-10-06T05:26:32 < aandrew> done *lots* of work with them
2017-10-06T05:26:40 < aandrew> both ble and gzll, not so much bare esb
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2017-10-06T05:30:40 < emeb_mac> ds2: ordered some nrf51822 modules for fun.
2017-10-06T05:31:11 < emeb_mac> $4/ea is about right
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2017-10-06T05:42:32 <@englishman> nordic is pretty easy to dev for too
2017-10-06T05:42:37 <@englishman> easier than HAL
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2017-10-06T05:45:32 < emeb_mac> englishman: how to flash it?
2017-10-06T05:45:41 < emeb_mac> oocd + jlink ?
2017-10-06T05:45:48 <@englishman> keil + jlink
2017-10-06T05:46:01 < emeb_mac> gah. again with the keil.
2017-10-06T05:46:16 <@englishman> or 3rd party buggy hacker tools whatever
2017-10-06T05:46:27 < emeb_mac> too pro for me. :)
2017-10-06T05:47:12 < emeb_mac> I spend $1800/year to keep my Matlab license current. No monies left for pro devtools.
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2017-10-06T06:28:22 < jadew> The only connection between the crimes was DNA, which as of March 2009 had been recovered from 40 crime scenes, ranging from murders to burglaries. In late March 2009, investigators concluded that the "Phantom" criminal did not exist, and the DNA recovered at the crime scenes had already been present on the cotton swabs used for collecting DNA samples; they belonged to a woman who worked at the factory where they were made.
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2017-10-06T06:59:05 < dongs> sup serial innovators
2017-10-06T07:00:15 < dongs> isn't nordic shit M0? so you should be able to use freetard keil
2017-10-06T07:00:28 < dongs> its not like they're gonna check if youre doing stm32 or some other m0
2017-10-06T07:03:17 < emeb_mac> yes, nrf51 is m0
2017-10-06T07:03:53 < emeb_mac> is keil free for all sizes of m0?
2017-10-06T07:04:02 < Rob235> hmm: https://imgur.com/a/93d4B  got grayscale and gaussian blur going on the magnifier, still setting up the window for the edge detection
2017-10-06T07:04:09 < emeb_mac> last time I used keil you had to keep code to < 32kB
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2017-10-06T07:09:08 <@englishman> http://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk
2017-10-06T07:09:11 <@englishman> wonder if itl work
2017-10-06T07:09:49 <@englishman> anyway 32k on nrf51 is a lot
2017-10-06T07:13:02 < emeb_mac> ya
2017-10-06T07:13:32 < emeb_mac> funny thing about keil and the 32k limit - that applies *before* link-time optimization
2017-10-06T07:13:55 < emeb_mac> so even if your final code would be < 32kB, if the pre-link code is > 32kB it won't finish.
2017-10-06T07:14:28 < emeb_mac> and they've got pretty good LTO, so the delta is pretty big
2017-10-06T07:14:33 < dongs> emeb_mac: 32k?
2017-10-06T07:14:36 < dongs> its not 32k limited
2017-10-06T07:14:38 < dongs> more like 256k
2017-10-06T07:14:40 < dongs> for M0
2017-10-06T07:14:45 < emeb_mac> ah
2017-10-06T07:14:52 < emeb_mac> I was using F3 and it was 32k
2017-10-06T07:14:53 < dongs> 32k is the free-free one
2017-10-06T07:14:54 < dongs> yeah
2017-10-06T07:15:07 < dongs> if you get that one he linked, its unlimited for M0/M0+
2017-10-06T07:15:14 < dongs> but i dont know of any m0 with > 256k flash anyway
2017-10-06T07:15:18 < emeb_mac> true
2017-10-06T07:17:58 < emeb_mac> nrf51822 has 256k
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2017-10-06T07:23:44 < dongs> well thats plenty
2017-10-06T07:23:48 < dongs> for free keil
2017-10-06T07:23:52 < dongs> i said > 256k
2017-10-06T07:24:04 < emeb_mac> ya
2017-10-06T07:24:44 < emeb_mac> looks like nrf is ordinary SWD tho - should prolly work with any GCC + openocd
2017-10-06T07:25:00 < aandrew> yes regular old swd
2017-10-06T07:25:06 < aandrew> don't waste your money on keil shit
2017-10-06T07:25:09 < dongs> sure,if you don't value your time
2017-10-06T07:25:13 < aandrew> yeah, eyah
2017-10-06T07:25:21 < aandrew> I've wasted so much time trying to understand keil shit
2017-10-06T07:25:28 < dongs> aandrew: free keil is fucking free, you dick
2017-10-06T07:25:33 <@englishman> aandrew is paid by the hour. so he uses gcc
2017-10-06T07:25:36 < emeb_mac> eh. keil was easy when I used it
2017-10-06T07:25:54 < aandrew> dongs: they can't even give that shit away
2017-10-06T07:26:03 < emeb_mac> spent more time fighting with the 32k limit that I did learning to use it
2017-10-06T07:27:32 < dongs> complaining that keil "doesnt work" = pebkac
2017-10-06T07:27:37 < emeb_mac> heh
2017-10-06T07:27:41 < dongs> bringing up "time" when talking about opensores tools = fucing lol
2017-10-06T07:28:23 < emeb_mac> basically a learning-curve issue
2017-10-06T07:28:40 < emeb_mac> once you *know* opensource tools they're easy
2017-10-06T07:28:43 < emeb_mac> but learning...
2017-10-06T07:29:00 < emeb_mac> so once you've invested the time it pays off.
2017-10-06T07:29:06 <@englishman> for how long
2017-10-06T07:29:09 <@englishman> a couple months?
2017-10-06T07:29:13 <@englishman> until a commandline switch breaks
2017-10-06T07:29:18 <@englishman> and you have to write 5000 new makefiles
2017-10-06T07:29:22 < emeb_mac> incremental costs are minimal
2017-10-06T07:29:23 < dongs> lol
2017-10-06T07:29:24 <@englishman> (whatever those are)
2017-10-06T07:29:50 < emeb_mac> I've been using the same basic makefiles for my projects for the last 10yrs
2017-10-06T07:29:57 < emeb_mac> minor tweaks for new stuff. easy.
2017-10-06T07:30:29 < emeb_mac> but if you prefer GUIs and hand-holding, that's fine too.
2017-10-06T07:31:25 <@englishman> i know, it's quite amazing for lunix people, when they find that things can be easy
2017-10-06T07:31:40 <@englishman> pretty sure keil has had the "compile" button in the same place for the last 10 years
2017-10-06T07:32:05 < emeb_mac> heh
2017-10-06T07:32:14 < emeb_mac> if the moved it there'd be a revolution. :)
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2017-10-06T07:35:36 < emeb_mac> was googling for QSPI SRAM yesterday - found some from ON Semi
2017-10-06T07:35:47 < emeb_mac> 1Mbit in TSSOP8
2017-10-06T07:36:00 < emeb_mac> ~$4/qty1
2017-10-06T07:36:33 < emeb_mac> might be interesting short-term storage
2017-10-06T07:37:34 < dongs> hah
2017-10-06T07:37:44 < dongs> sounds like the kinda shit microchip would make for one customer
2017-10-06T07:38:03 < emeb_mac> MCHP makes some, but maxes out @ 512kbit
2017-10-06T07:38:09 < emeb_mac> ON has larger
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2017-10-06T07:38:28 < dongs> didn't we have this discussion before?
2017-10-06T07:38:35 < dongs> something about qspi on stm32 being readonly
2017-10-06T07:38:36 < dongs> for mapping
2017-10-06T07:38:39 < dongs> but write doesnt work?
2017-10-06T07:38:45 < dongs> or doe it
2017-10-06T07:38:47 < emeb_mac> that's news to me
2017-10-06T07:39:08 < dongs> you gotta erase like 64k page on spi flash
2017-10-06T07:39:11 < capacitor> fucken ass
2017-10-06T07:39:14 < dongs> before writing, so
2017-10-06T07:39:15 < emeb_mac> but if mapped is RO that would be a PITA
2017-10-06T07:39:29 < emeb_mac> well, SRAM wouldn't have to erase
2017-10-06T07:39:37 < dongs> sure, but thats not its use case
2017-10-06T07:39:47 < emeb_mac> but I don't know if the QSPI controller knows that
2017-10-06T07:40:10 < emeb_mac> good point tho
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2017-10-06T07:56:12 < ds2> nrf52 is M4
2017-10-06T07:56:26 < ds2> Keil blows chunks
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2017-10-06T08:04:05 < dongs> this is coming from a guy who runs lunix on cortex -m3
2017-10-06T08:04:18 < dongs> i don't think you have the right to say anything about keil usability
2017-10-06T08:08:30 < dongs> hmm jew runner 2049 opens today
2017-10-06T08:08:33 < dongs> i think ill watch it in taiwan
2017-10-06T08:08:36 < dongs> with chink subtitles
2017-10-06T08:15:53 < qyx> mhm, I am using spi flash from spansion and it has 2K erase blocks
2017-10-06T08:16:27 < ds2> I have used Keil and it was one of my worse experiences
2017-10-06T08:17:00 < ds2> ARMCC is nice (and I would buy it if they offer a ARMCC that supports cortex-M and cortex-A) but the GUI is plain unusable
2017-10-06T08:22:39 < emeb_mac> ds2: what SWD interface do you use for talking to the nrf51xx?
2017-10-06T08:27:03 < ds2> emeb_mac: I started bridging the JLink from their devboard... now I am using a regular jlink
2017-10-06T08:27:34 < ds2> emeb_mac: apparently the new dev boards discourage that (jumpers going, language saying otherwise, etc)
2017-10-06T08:27:40 < emeb_mac> ds2: cool. what driver sw for the jlink?
2017-10-06T08:32:42 < dongs> haha
2017-10-06T08:32:43 < dongs> Told him to find me a wood blade for a sawzall, he comes back thirty minutes later and says 'they're all made of metal though'.
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2017-10-06T08:34:49 < ds2> emeb_mac: JLinkExe, Linux edition :D
2017-10-06T08:35:07 < emeb_mac> ds2: interesting.
2017-10-06T08:35:11 < emeb_mac> never heard of it
2017-10-06T08:35:19 < dongs> jlinkgdbserver i guess
2017-10-06T08:35:19 < ds2> download from Segger
2017-10-06T08:35:38 < ds2> I'd use openocd but I cannot get a clear answer on what HW I need to use for SWD
2017-10-06T08:35:58 < ds2> I think JLinkExe may be also know as Jlink commander
2017-10-06T08:37:02 < emeb_mac> ds2: I've used openocd w/ my jlink in the past
2017-10-06T08:37:17 < emeb_mac> but it's been a long time.
2017-10-06T08:37:28 < emeb_mac> mostly just use openoce + stlink lately
2017-10-06T08:39:00 < dongs> openocd + jlink loses the only useful part of jlink, that is hardware protocol offload
2017-10-06T08:39:10 < ds2> what does openOCD + JLink bring?
2017-10-06T08:39:12 < dongs> in openocd mode wiht libfaggotusb driver, you are basically using it as expensive bitbang
2017-10-06T08:39:27 < dongs> ds2: cuz it bitbangs, it supporst more obscure/useless targets
2017-10-06T08:40:30 < ds2> not even that
2017-10-06T08:40:38 < ds2> I mainly use it to download firmware
2017-10-06T08:40:50 < ds2> I don't see what else do I need to do besides "load foo.hex"
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2017-10-06T08:41:24 < ds2> I don't find gdb to be that useful
2017-10-06T08:43:01 < dongs> ah youre one of those arduino dveelopers
2017-10-06T08:43:04 < dongs> upload and pray
2017-10-06T08:43:12 < dongs> i know its hard to debug in lunix with shit tools
2017-10-06T08:43:35 < ds2> no, I wiggle lines
2017-10-06T08:43:45 < ds2> debuggers change the timing way too much
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2017-10-06T08:44:01 < dongs> sounds boring, being able to breapoint/step/re-set IP to something else ahead/back is super useful
2017-10-06T08:44:59 < ds2> things I use baremetal for is more timing sensitive... makes that of limited usefulness
2017-10-06T08:53:37 < PaulFertser> dongs: have you tried nrf5 yet? Their softdevice just "hardfaults" whenever you try to debug your code.
2017-10-06T08:55:46 < dongs> PaulFertser: is that using proper debug tools, or homebrew shit?
2017-10-06T08:56:06 < dongs> i'm alsmost certain thier keil softdevice samples are fully debuggable
2017-10-06T08:56:13 < dongs> since thats what i used in my bluetooth dildo
2017-10-06T08:56:15 < dongs> and had no problems'
2017-10-06T08:56:59 < PaulFertser> dongs: proper tools
2017-10-06T08:57:36 < dongs> donno man
2017-10-06T08:57:39 < dongs> worksonmymachine.pro
2017-10-06T08:58:08 < PaulFertser> https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/question/78807/debugging-while-bt-is-working/
2017-10-06T08:59:53 < Steffanx> It worked for me with nrf51, stlink and openocd
2017-10-06T09:02:01 < dongs> ya this sounds like some bullshit edge case
2017-10-06T09:02:08 < PaulFertser> Debugging works until you start softdevice.
2017-10-06T09:02:52 < Steffanx> I also debugged incoming data etc..
2017-10-06T09:03:40 < dongs> tickets for jewrunner bought
2017-10-06T09:03:44 < dongs> gonna see tonight
2017-10-06T09:03:54 < Steffanx> Enjoy
2017-10-06T09:04:25 < Steffanx> Better record in 4k
2017-10-06T09:05:58 < dongs> i dont pirate moviez
2017-10-06T09:09:04 < emeb_mac> I'm probably going to hate it
2017-10-06T09:09:28 < emeb_mac> but I'll see it anyway
2017-10-06T09:10:51 < ds2> emeb_mac: what do you want to do with it?
2017-10-06T09:11:36 < emeb_mac> ds2: dunno. fiddle around.
2017-10-06T09:12:30 < emeb_mac> have some notions about talking to embedded stuff from a phone, but no idea if that's realistic.
2017-10-06T09:12:43 < ds2> emeb_mac: if so, goto their seminar and get a free board... the nRF Thingy seems fun
2017-10-06T09:13:19 < emeb_mac> hmm
2017-10-06T09:13:31 < emeb_mac> doubt if anyone has seminars nearby me.
2017-10-06T09:13:53 < emeb_mac> No one comes to PHX anymore - not enough tech design here these days.
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2017-10-06T09:14:23 < ds2> good point... you could take a quick driver to OC ;)
2017-10-06T09:14:29 < ds2> or just cough up $50
2017-10-06T09:14:33 < emeb_mac> all the notices I get are LA and SF area
2017-10-06T09:14:43 < ds2> LA is a straight shot off the 10
2017-10-06T09:15:06 < emeb_mac> I know - drive thru there a few times a year on the way elsewhere.
2017-10-06T09:15:15 < emeb_mac> been there 3x this year already
2017-10-06T09:15:23 < ds2> key word there s "thru"? :D
2017-10-06T09:15:28 < emeb_mac> Yes.
2017-10-06T09:15:39 < emeb_mac> 10 -> 210 -> 5 & gone. :)
2017-10-06T09:16:11 < ds2> It isn't that horrible
2017-10-06T09:16:15 < emeb_mac> nah
2017-10-06T09:16:21 < capacitor> fuck FUCK fuck FUCK fuck FUCK fuck FUCK fuck FUCK fuck FUCK fuck FUCK fuck FUCK fuck FUCK
2017-10-06T09:16:24 < emeb_mac> just huge & crowded
2017-10-06T09:17:48 < ds2> No worse then Tempe new years day ;)
2017-10-06T09:17:53 < emeb_mac> heh
2017-10-06T09:17:57 < emeb_mac> and I avoid that too
2017-10-06T09:18:12 < emeb_mac> old fuddy-duddy
2017-10-06T09:27:31 < Tectu> good old emeb
2017-10-06T09:28:01 < dongs> what the fuck trying c# after like 10 years of last using it and hte language turned into absolute shit
2017-10-06T09:28:10 < dongs> Thread thread = new Thread(() => download(filename)); apparently this is valid C# now
2017-10-06T09:28:13 < dongs> makes no fucking sense, faggots
2017-10-06T09:28:48 < dongs> "lambda expression" or somefuck
2017-10-06T09:29:06 < dongs> i wish python faggots would crawl into thier own hole and stop fucking wiht other peoples useful languages
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2017-10-06T09:30:52 < dongs> yep, shit came from python
2017-10-06T09:30:54 < dongs> just as i thought
2017-10-06T09:30:55 < dongs> fucking rage
2017-10-06T09:33:09 < jpa-> even c++ has had lambdas for ages now
2017-10-06T09:33:12 < PaulFertser> dongs: you really mean you hate lambda functions?
2017-10-06T09:33:29 < dongs> yes, i hate whatever thte fuck that is
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2017-10-06T09:35:53 < dongs> fucking gross, reading wikipedo shit on that
2017-10-06T09:36:00 < dongs> every garbage language is in the list of shit supporting it
2017-10-06T09:36:03 < dongs> starting from lisp
2017-10-06T09:36:06 < dongs> die
2017-10-06T09:36:13 < PaulFertser> I'm sometimes wondering if you're really that arrogant or just pretending.
2017-10-06T09:37:51 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_function#List_of_languages pretty much everything on this list is gross
2017-10-06T09:37:59 < PaulFertser> Combined with lacking CS and EE education that really sounds funny.
2017-10-06T09:38:25 < dongs> sorry, my CS was done using mips assembly
2017-10-06T09:38:30 < dongs> we didn't have any faggot languages back then
2017-10-06T09:38:35 < dongs> with jewish syntax
2017-10-06T09:38:45 < ds2> 9
2017-10-06T09:39:57 < capacitor> 10
2017-10-06T09:39:57 < dongs> all teh use cases of this crap i see so far is just shitting up the syntax into something unreadable
2017-10-06T09:39:58 < PaulFertser> Lambda calculus is math, not a programming language.
2017-10-06T09:40:28 < PaulFertser> Well, you're free to name all of your functions if you prefer to.
2017-10-06T09:40:37 < dongs> i plan to
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2017-10-06T09:44:11 < PaulFertser> You must be hating the set theory too, as it really has that jewish "aleph" letter in it right at the beginning. Probably one can find something faggot-related in there as well with enough effort.
2017-10-06T09:49:01 < dongs> yea man
2017-10-06T09:59:22 < jpa-> https://github.com/Leushenko/C99-Lambda   there is always this also
2017-10-06T09:59:30 < jpa-> no language is safe from the lambda infestation
2017-10-06T10:01:20 < capacitor> better go back to circuits
2017-10-06T10:05:21 < jpa-> even circuits are not safe, most altium scripting languages support lambdas
2017-10-06T10:05:58 < capacitor> :[
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2017-10-06T10:39:51 < dongs> lmaooooooooooooooooo
2017-10-06T10:40:12 < dongs> i asked dickstarter faggots to 3d print something on thier 300k stratasys shit few weeks go right
2017-10-06T10:40:19 < dongs> today i aske them waht the status is
2017-10-06T10:40:24 < dongs> "oh we ran out of material"
2017-10-06T10:40:30 < dongs> "and each bottle is like $2000 of new stuff"
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2017-10-06T10:45:03 < Steffanx>  \o/
2017-10-06T10:53:08 < fest> that's like 20 tanks of gas for their lambos?
2017-10-06T10:55:21 < Ultrasauce> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxEaabYB0iE
2017-10-06T10:55:24 < Ultrasauce> dude's still at it
2017-10-06T10:59:42 < dongs> wireless python interface
2017-10-06T10:59:48 < dongs> yeah fuck right off, fucking hippie
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2017-10-06T11:15:50 < Steffanx> Grandpa..
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2017-10-06T11:29:02 < theepot> greetings Steffanx
2017-10-06T11:30:28 < Steffanx> Kopje thee?
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2017-10-06T11:49:09 < theepot> {:
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2017-10-06T12:12:15 < dongs> wow
2017-10-06T12:12:19 < dongs> professional opensores software
2017-10-06T12:12:35 < dongs>  F:\>nc -l 80
2017-10-06T12:12:35 < dongs>  local listen fuxored: INVAL
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2017-10-06T12:29:09 < karlp> dongs: presumably inval is what windows returns when you don't have admin perms to listen on 80?
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2017-10-06T12:35:43 < dongs> karlp: naw i tried it as admin
2017-10-06T12:35:44 < dongs> it worked once
2017-10-06T12:35:50 < dongs> even turned off firewall
2017-10-06T12:35:51 < dongs> lolz.
2017-10-06T12:35:54 < dongs> just opensores failing
2017-10-06T12:37:58 < karlp> it only does one listen at a time
2017-10-06T12:38:05 < karlp> nc -k -l to keep alive between requests
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2017-10-06T12:40:41 < dongs> my nc.exe is so pro it doesnt even have -k
2017-10-06T12:41:38 < zyp> aww
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2017-10-06T12:43:55 < karlp> ds2: what core are you working on that debugging changes the timing on?
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2017-10-06T13:04:05 < dongs> hes ful of shit
2017-10-06T13:04:05 < dongs> is what
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2017-10-06T14:07:26 < karlp> anyone done any UL cert stuff?
2017-10-06T14:07:32 < karlp> any secrit tips?
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2017-10-06T15:00:47 <@englishman> figured you'd already be the expert on that
2017-10-06T15:04:59 < karlp> nah, we just do CE stuff
2017-10-06T15:05:04 < karlp> us market? what's that?
2017-10-06T15:05:09 <@englishman> ah
2017-10-06T15:05:10 < karlp> they got silly volts and hz right
2017-10-06T15:09:07 < Lux> karlp: with CE you basically just make sure emv is ok right on low voltage stuff ?
2017-10-06T15:09:30 < Lux> just seems kinda weird being a label you can just put on on your own risk
2017-10-06T15:17:00 < karlp> depends whether you care about your company name or not
2017-10-06T15:17:29 < karlp> self declare is legal sure, but if you then fail, it's more liability
2017-10-06T15:25:12 < sync> yeah, but someone has to prove that you were not complying
2017-10-06T15:25:18 < sync> so somebody has to spend money first
2017-10-06T15:25:25 < sync> which basically never happens
2017-10-06T15:32:43 < karlp> sure, but people do go, "show me your ce certs", "oh, they're self signed?, come back to us when you have external certs"
2017-10-06T15:33:14 < karlp> and even though you and I might know it's perfectly legal to just put a CE mark on and ays it's self signed, and has about that much meaning,
2017-10-06T15:33:25 < karlp> we still have lots of people in teh world who just need to see the logo.
2017-10-06T15:33:33 < karlp> anway, I'm asking about UL :)
2017-10-06T15:38:04 < sync> I have never had that happen
2017-10-06T15:38:20 < sync> if they did we would have told them to gtfo
2017-10-06T15:43:34 < Lux> intreresting thanks
2017-10-06T15:44:19 < Lux> only thing about ul i know is that you have to worry about fire resistant ul certified cables/plugs above a certain power rating
2017-10-06T16:03:29 < karlp> huh, UL only formally stopped being a non profit in 2012
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2017-10-06T16:15:46 < invzim> http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/017c82e6-8661-4571-b6f3-cb0a46e75090-original.jpeg
2017-10-06T16:20:08 < karlp> original context?
2017-10-06T16:21:10 < invzim> https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6321734101544108032/
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2017-10-06T16:27:14 <@englishman> selective solder will not help you with that invzim
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2017-10-06T16:28:58 < invzim> not mine, just thought it was a funny picture :)
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2017-10-06T16:34:50 < invzim> so you're going to hand solder 10k+ pins?
2017-10-06T16:37:06 <@englishman> guess so yea
2017-10-06T16:37:20 <@englishman> couple weeks ago did a pth-only project with 8900 pins
2017-10-06T16:37:27 <@englishman> but that included leadforming etc
2017-10-06T16:37:30 <@englishman> this one is just headers
2017-10-06T16:38:16 <@englishman> selective soldering sure looks attractive tho
2017-10-06T16:39:10 <@englishman> and that one for sale is only a days' drive away
2017-10-06T16:40:03 <@englishman> 35 litres of nitrogen a minute, tho
2017-10-06T16:42:55 < invzim> not really familiar with the details, nitrogen instead of flux?
2017-10-06T16:43:31 < invzim> and just feed it an ingot of alloy of choice?
2017-10-06T16:44:54 <@englishman> lets see, a 4K tank is 443 cu. ft = 12500 litres = 6 hours run time
2017-10-06T16:46:03 <@englishman> refill is 60-80beaverbux
2017-10-06T16:46:05 <@englishman> not bad then
2017-10-06T16:46:29 <@englishman> would probably need a larger office again
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2017-10-06T16:48:43 < dale6998> can i ask a C coding style question?
2017-10-06T16:48:44 < dale6998> here?
2017-10-06T16:48:56 <@englishman> hi dale
2017-10-06T16:48:57 <@englishman> don't ask to ask
2017-10-06T16:48:59 <@englishman> is in the topic
2017-10-06T16:49:00 <@englishman> :)
2017-10-06T16:49:04 < dale6998> oh, sorry!
2017-10-06T16:49:53 < Steffanx> Only when you use keil.
2017-10-06T16:50:07 <@englishman> without seeing the question, the correct answer is k&r tho
2017-10-06T16:50:11 < dale6998> i've got 6 masks that i want to apply as a counter goes up and then loops back to zero
2017-10-06T16:50:21 < dale6998> so, when the counter is 1, i want to apply this maske 001100
2017-10-06T16:50:30 < dale6998> then when it's 2, i want to apply 110000
2017-10-06T16:50:42 < dale6998> then when it's 3, i want to apply 101000
2017-10-06T16:50:45 < dale6998> whatever...
2017-10-06T16:51:14 < dale6998> ok, so the question is, can i store these 'masks' in a single variable using enum or is there a better way then that?
2017-10-06T16:51:30 < dale6998> or, is an array the way to go?
2017-10-06T16:51:38 <@englishman> sounds like a job for enum yeah, unless you can express the masks as a function of the counter value
2017-10-06T16:52:11 < dale6998> no, there's no algebreic link between the masks and the counter variable at al
2017-10-06T16:53:19 < karlp> store all of them in a single variable wat how?
2017-10-06T16:53:27 < dale6998> ok, but doesn't enum just return the index value?  i'm looking here for guidance http://www.geeksforgeeks.org/enumeration-enum-c/
2017-10-06T16:53:36 < karlp> enum _is_ just an int.
2017-10-06T16:53:54 < karlp> they're pretty shit in c honestly, just mildly easier to read than a page of #define
2017-10-06T16:53:54 < invzim> define the masks with something meaningful and do a switch/case?
2017-10-06T16:54:30 < karlp> mask_t masks[] = { 001100, 110000, 101000... }
2017-10-06T16:54:44 < karlp> or just write them inline where you use it :)
2017-10-06T16:54:52 < dale6998> invzim: yes, you got it...well, i want to toggle pins in a PWM interrupt, but those pints are going to change based on a counter that gets incremented in a different, longer-period timer interrupt
2017-10-06T16:55:37 < dale6998> karlp: sorry man, but just to be sure, mask_t means whatever i want, right?  char, int, so on?
2017-10-06T16:58:01 < karlp> sure, I don't know what you want
2017-10-06T16:58:25 < zyp> dale6998, what you're asking for is a lookup table
2017-10-06T16:58:36 < dale6998> ok...just making sure you weren't referencing that I should have already defined a type called mask_t
2017-10-06T16:58:59 < dale6998> zyp: oh yeah, you're right...that would have been a smarter thing to ask about in the first place!  :D
2017-10-06T16:59:13 < zyp> and yes, array is the way to go
2017-10-06T16:59:18 < zyp> probably static const
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2017-10-06T17:00:33 < dale6998> ok...so, declare it in a .h file, assign it in the coressponding c file as a static const, and then everybody (interrupts included) will be able to read it?
2017-10-06T17:01:04 < zyp> static const can be defined in a header
2017-10-06T17:01:15 < zyp> that way it can be inlined everywhere it's used if possible
2017-10-06T17:01:45 <@englishman> o yeah?
2017-10-06T17:02:02 < zyp> for large lookup tables used in a lot of translation units, you wouldn't want to do that
2017-10-06T17:02:05 <@englishman> its prototype can be in .h right
2017-10-06T17:02:25 < zyp> but for six entries used a few places, a bit of duplication is no big deal
2017-10-06T17:03:13 < zyp> englishman, the thing is, you can't define symbols in a header, that would result in linking conflicts if you include it into multiple translation units
2017-10-06T17:03:19 <@englishman> right
2017-10-06T17:03:45 < zyp> the static keyword doesn't export the symbol outside the translation unit
2017-10-06T17:04:16 < zyp> you potentially end up with a copy in every translation unit referencing it though
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2017-10-06T17:04:26 < zyp> nonconflicting copies
2017-10-06T17:06:00 <@englishman> if (val == 1)
2017-10-06T17:06:00 <@englishman>   mask = 0x001100;
2017-10-06T17:06:00 <@englishman> else if (val == 2)
2017-10-06T17:06:00 <@englishman>   mask = 0x110011;
2017-10-06T17:06:02 <@englishman> submit that
2017-10-06T17:06:04 <@englishman> for your homework
2017-10-06T17:06:08 < zyp> eww
2017-10-06T17:06:38 <@englishman> yes static const mask_t masks = { 0x001100, 0x110011 };
2017-10-06T17:06:39 <@englishman> etc
2017-10-06T17:06:46 < PaulFertser> What's "funny" is that ld doesn't warn about duplicating symbols by default, you need to add --warn-common.
2017-10-06T17:07:02 < zyp> it doesn't?
2017-10-06T17:07:12 < karlp> that "end up with a copy in every translation unit" has caught me out a couple of times though
2017-10-06T17:07:20 < PaulFertser> GNU ld doesn't afaict.
2017-10-06T17:08:00 < zyp> karlp, with consts?
2017-10-06T17:08:07 < zyp> or mutable stuff?
2017-10-06T17:08:28 < karlp> probably things that started as consts, and became mutable later :)
2017-10-06T17:08:49 < zyp> with consts it all goes into rodata and there's no big deal how many times it gets duplicated as long as you don't run out of flash :p
2017-10-06T17:08:49 < karlp> or some mixin or something, don't remember, but it was _very_ confusing.
2017-10-06T17:10:16 < PaulFertser> Yeah, I had hard time helping debug an issue with mutable variables declared in a header, extremely confusing indeed.
2017-10-06T17:10:39 < PaulFertser> s/declared/defined/ ?
2017-10-06T17:14:43 < karlp> like, yes yes, it's "legal" but in what fucking world would I have _wanted_ that?!
2017-10-06T17:15:27 < PaulFertser> It's said it was used in some older unix systems.
2017-10-06T17:15:50  * karlp goes and checks error: unrecognized command line option '--warn-common'
2017-10-06T17:16:22  * karlp adds -Wl,
2017-10-06T17:16:32 < karlp> ok, no new warnigs here at least ...
2017-10-06T17:18:08 < Thorn> wtf is going on with seeed. they added the "min solder mask dam" parameter, default is 0.4mm. if you set it to 0.1mm your $.9 order turns into a $21 order
2017-10-06T17:18:20 < PaulFertser> Ah, I even had an issue like that myself, and it was on AVR so no proper debug. I had written some code with global (but not static, for no reason) vars about 10 years ago. And it all was fine until I was made to add some other functionality and so added another global in another translation unit with the same name, also without static (now that was really stupid of me).
2017-10-06T17:19:30 < karlp> Thorn: wtf is wtf, turn up specs, turn up price
2017-10-06T17:20:04 < Thorn> I'm pretty sure they didn't have this shit half a year ago
2017-10-06T17:20:48 < Thorn> and the gap between pins is <0.4mm for a lot of packages such as tssop, not to mention qfp-0.5mm
2017-10-06T17:21:03 <@englishman> yeah normal service will take away all soldermask
2017-10-06T17:21:41 < Thorn> well they didn't last time I ordered, what changed
2017-10-06T17:22:43 < Thorn> I'm pretty sure they did 0.2mm soldermask bridges between pins just fine
2017-10-06T17:22:48 <@englishman> dono, never used seeeeed, always twice the $ for same chinapcb
2017-10-06T17:23:08 < Thorn> any alternatives
2017-10-06T17:23:26 < Thorn> they also charge $10+ for singapore post shipping and say "no tracking"
2017-10-06T17:23:43 <@englishman> http://www.allpcb.com/online_quote.html
2017-10-06T17:25:55 < tomeaton17> This is why I love HAL https://hastebin.com/jecihacixo.cpp is too big for 32K flash
2017-10-06T17:26:54 <@englishman> w u t
2017-10-06T17:28:31 < tomeaton17> I think something is wrong with my Makefile tbh because even for HAL that is a bit ridiculous
2017-10-06T17:31:12 < Thorn> lol @ allpcb. 100x71mm = $15 with shpping, 105x71mm = $41.59 with shipping. same shit as with seeed
2017-10-06T17:31:29 < Thorn> anyway it looks good for under 100mm, thanks
2017-10-06T17:32:21 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: do you have -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -Wl,--gc-sections ?
2017-10-06T17:32:47 < PaulFertser> (assuming you link with gcc/g++)
2017-10-06T17:33:20 < Thorn> I did a rs-485 keypad with stm8, no idea if I even need it lol. https://imgur.com/a/VCKEp (this is before a shrinkage to fit into the 100mm limit)
2017-10-06T17:40:08 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: No, that is much better now thanks1
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2017-10-06T17:44:19 < dale6998> Thorn: what cad package is that?
2017-10-06T17:46:02 <@englishman> looks like a gerber viewer
2017-10-06T17:46:33 <@englishman> ah no theres a ratline
2017-10-06T17:46:37 <@englishman> guessing diptrace then
2017-10-06T17:47:38 < dale6998> it's a nice gerber viewer...no tearing
2017-10-06T17:49:13 < Thorn> diptrace
2017-10-06T17:49:44 < Thorn> allpcb design rules say 0.1mm but then something about extra cost
2017-10-06T17:50:24 < Thorn> the ratline is a bug, its own connectivity check sees no errors
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2017-10-06T18:07:45 < tomeaton17> When do using HAL do you have to configure the system clock manually to use UART?
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2017-10-06T18:10:33 <@englishman> using hal with or without timecube?
2017-10-06T18:10:57 <@englishman> cube will generate those functions for you, and call them if you want
2017-10-06T18:11:10 <@englishman> but you always have to set up clocks and enable them
2017-10-06T18:13:33 < tomeaton17> Not using cube, ok thanks
2017-10-06T18:13:42 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-10-06T18:13:47 < Laurenceb> why am I b&  ?
2017-10-06T18:13:50 < Laurenceb> no bully
2017-10-06T18:13:56 < Laurenceb> bullying is bad
2017-10-06T18:14:59 < Steffanx> Youre here. Not b&.
2017-10-06T18:18:09 < karlp> tomeaton17: move into the 90s at least, stop using 9600 baud j0
2017-10-06T18:18:54 < tomeaton17> Haha thats just for testing will using 115200 at least
2017-10-06T18:19:19 < karlp> why use something different intesting?
2017-10-06T18:21:19 < tomeaton17> This code is actually from a very early piece of code when character echo was only working at 9600 baud. It was for the F103 and I wanted to try the uart on the F04 so I ported the code over
2017-10-06T18:24:27 < Laurenceb> Everybody "knows" what a prison is like.  The iconography of the place, without obligation for accuracy, is cemented in our minds through representational forms
2017-10-06T18:24:32 < karlp> maybe you should have dug into why it only worked at 9600 first, exposed the core problems..
2017-10-06T18:24:48 < Laurenceb> holy shit why am I on over 9000 SJW mailing lists
2017-10-06T18:25:08 < Laurenceb> I blame englishman
2017-10-06T18:27:13 < Laurenceb> > the trope of escape - as a critical memetic device - is used to create new memes
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2017-10-06T18:44:21 < tomeaton17> karlp: Yeah I fixed the problem a long time ago
2017-10-06T18:44:29 < tomeaton17> Just need a 1ms char delay
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2017-10-06T18:52:10 < karlp> right. that sounds like a fix, sure.
2017-10-06T19:01:16 < Steffanx> ** Sarcasm detected **
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2017-10-06T19:22:22 < tomeaton17> Why bother fixing the actual problem if you can fix it like that?
2017-10-06T19:22:48 < tomeaton17> If I get further problems then I will fix the real problem but its quicker and easier to just bodge it
2017-10-06T19:26:46 < karlp> don't ever ask me for help diagnosing some other weird error then
2017-10-06T19:27:07 < tomeaton17> If its related to UART then sure
2017-10-06T19:29:12 < PaulFertser> It's the attitude that matters. With an attitude like that you're really prone to all kind of strange problems.
2017-10-06T19:30:39 < tomeaton17> Well I changed the char delay about 2 months ago and have been using the same code since and have had no problems. I can see in other cases it could be a problem but in this case its a valid solution
2017-10-06T19:31:36 < tomeaton17> Especially as I only communicate via uart using the serial monitor I can control it
2017-10-06T19:33:07 < PaulFertser> I think karlp means if you do not bother digging details even for a relatively simple USART peripheral, then chances are, you'll glimpse over important information with another periphs as well.
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2017-10-06T20:03:55 < karlp> hrm, usart multiprocessor is a bit mean requiring bit 7 to be high for address matching.
2017-10-06T20:04:27 < karlp> I guess you have to just implment it yourself using idle detection
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2017-10-06T20:32:05 < dale6998> if i declare/prototype a static const int array in a .h file, do i have to call out it's size right then and there?
2017-10-06T20:32:43 < dale6998> can i just say:  static const int motor_mask;
2017-10-06T20:33:15 < dale6998> and then in a later c file say this:  motor_mask = { whatever, whaterver1, whatever2 }
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2017-10-06T20:36:57 < dale6998> becasue C sure doesn't look like it's expecting to see 'static const int'-anything in a .h file
2017-10-06T20:38:00 < PaulFertser> dale6998: why do you want it static in an .h file in the first place?
2017-10-06T20:40:11 < dale6998> i want this variable to be available to every source file
2017-10-06T20:40:43 < PaulFertser> Then it can't be static, it should be declared extern in an .h file. And then in just one of the .c files you define it fully.
2017-10-06T20:42:15 < PaulFertser> gtfo
2017-10-06T20:43:00 < dale6998> PaulFertser: thanks...why would you use static then?  if extern makes them availabel everywhere, wouldn't static just make them available only where they're included...aka, default behavior?
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2017-10-06T21:08:17 < PaulFertser> dale6998: extern is needed to prevent definition, so that the line is only a declaration but no space is allocated. static is needed to prevent definition (in .c file) from exporting.
2017-10-06T21:18:22 < dale6998> PaulFertser:
2017-10-06T21:18:25 < dale6998> PaulFertser: ok, i got it
2017-10-06T21:20:06 < dale6998> PaulFertser: One last question...I'm trying to PWM a GPIO, and I think the answer is to use DMA....I'm using HAL and cubemx, but i'm not sure how i should catch the rising and falling edges to set/reset the port
2017-10-06T21:20:23 < dale6998> PaulFertser: is that the strategy?
2017-10-06T21:20:41 < PaulFertser> dale6998: eh, why can't you use hardware PWM from timer peripheral?
2017-10-06T21:21:35 < dale6998> PaulFertser: I'm afraid that if I have a high enough frequency that my CPU will get bogged down just servicing interrupts
2017-10-06T21:22:21 < PaulFertser> dale6998: that's why I'm asking about hw PWM which uses 0 cpu.
2017-10-06T21:23:16 < dale6998> PaulFertser: alright, i like it...but, how do you turn on a whole GPIO port OR'd with a mask using just the hw PWM?
2017-10-06T21:23:28 < dale6998> PaulFertser: interrupts, right?
2017-10-06T21:24:28 < dale6998> PaulFertser: that's why I was thinking DMA, since he can work on his own, just transferring OR'd masks back and forth to the GPIO periferal every time an edge comes by...but, I'm all about learning a better way!
2017-10-06T21:27:21 < PaulFertser> dale6998: ah, you need the whole port...
2017-10-06T21:28:05 < PaulFertser> dale6998: you can setup DMA to be triggered by timer, and to write automatically from memory with auto-increment to the GPIO register (without increment) then.
2017-10-06T21:29:56 < dale6998> so, i should somehow get the DMA to write my mask to GPIOC->BSRR ?
2017-10-06T21:32:19 < PaulFertser> Sounds like that, yes.
2017-10-06T21:33:39 < dale6998> PaulFertser: sorry for all these short step questions, but just to make sure i've got the mechanics right:  i wait for a rising edge on the PWM timer, and this INITIATES a DMA transfer...I let the DMA move my mask to the GPIOC-BSRR register, and then (somehow) when I see the falling edge of the PWM, I then write GPIOC->BSRR = 0; ?
2017-10-06T21:34:19 < dale6998> PaulFertser: If i've got that right, can I get DMA to do the 'set back to 0' part for me when the PWM edge has fallen back down?
2017-10-06T21:36:00 < PaulFertser> dale6998: tbh, I haven't performed those tricks myself, others will be able to give a better advice. To get it completely cpu-free you can probably make the timer trigger 10 times the pwm period and just have appropriate values in the memory for 10 points of your output function (if that resolution is good enough to you).
2017-10-06T21:37:55 < PaulFertser> dale6998: also, you do not really need any mask to address individual bits, that's why you have dedicated set and reset gpio facilities.
2017-10-06T21:38:04 < Fleck> karlp: he actually fixed that problem "in the right way"! :D maybe he forgot that
2017-10-06T21:38:15 < PaulFertser> dale6998: and normally you need only a single pin PWM'd so you select one that can be connected to the timer peripheral and that's it.
2017-10-06T21:39:09 < PaulFertser> dale6998: why can't you fix your hardware so that you need pwm only on a single pin?
2017-10-06T21:42:09 < dale6998> I'm driving a BLDC, so I need to switch between 6 different MOSFETs in sync
2017-10-06T21:42:54 < PaulFertser> Then you can probably choose an stm32 with appropriate timer facilities. I think pros here will tell you which exactly fits better.
2017-10-06T21:43:32 < dale6998> PaulFertser: thank you very much!
2017-10-06T21:43:47 < PaulFertser> My naive way as described will free the cpu but somewhat hog the data bus (depending on the time resolution you need, of course).
2017-10-06T21:46:49 < PaulFertser> Probably you can simply make the pwm timer trigger dma on both edges and that would solve the issue.
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2017-10-06T22:08:01 < dale6998> PaulFertser: that's what i was wondering...can you do that?  can you make DMA trigger on a rising and falling edge independently on a PWM timer?
2017-10-06T22:08:25 < PaulFertser> dale6998: my suggestion is to make it dependently on the pwm timer.
2017-10-06T22:12:27 < dale6998> PaulFertser: that's what i thought...I'll take a look at the HAL library for the pwm timer and see if they have anything lying around there for seeing which edge is occuring
2017-10-06T22:15:44 < mervaka> we use STM32030s for PWM driving
2017-10-06T22:15:51 < mervaka> cheaper than an actual PWM driver
2017-10-06T22:16:03 < mervaka> apparently
2017-10-06T22:18:33 < PaulFertser> dale6998: you need to take a look at the reference manual, not the hal library.
2017-10-06T22:27:18 < Laurenceb> new musics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o_uF1L5l6o
2017-10-06T22:27:21 < Laurenceb> attn kakimir
2017-10-06T22:38:42 < upgrdman> what refdes do you use for optoisolators? u*?
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2017-10-06T22:53:50 < Steffanx> Ya, i would.
2017-10-06T22:57:37 < upgrdman> k thx
2017-10-06T23:11:41 < upgrdman> i always see resistor networks drawn as one rectangle on schematics. is it too dirty to draw them as individual parts (like a quad op amp) ?
2017-10-06T23:11:50 < upgrdman> seems like it would be easier to read in many cases
2017-10-06T23:12:11 < upgrdman> e.g. have RN100A, RN100B etc. instead of a single RN100
2017-10-06T23:15:02 < zyp> if they are independent resistors in the same package, it makes total sense
2017-10-06T23:15:14 < zyp> one rectangle is dumb and lazy
2017-10-06T23:15:36 < upgrdman> ok good im not the only one thinking that. yay.
2017-10-06T23:15:45 < zyp> if you do individual parts, you can enable partswapping too
2017-10-06T23:15:57 < upgrdman> more confirmation that my coworkers are dumb and lazy ;)
2017-10-06T23:16:19 < zyp> well
2017-10-06T23:16:45 < zyp> if you can look at other people's schematics and not find anything to criticise, you're not very opinionated :p
2017-10-06T23:16:47 < upgrdman> no no no, you confirmed it. can't go back now.
2017-10-06T23:16:53 < upgrdman> :)
2017-10-06T23:20:14 < Steffanx> lazy or not given the time by manager. You know.. managers..
2017-10-06T23:20:36 < Steffanx> or just incompetent :P
2017-10-06T23:21:07 < upgrdman> found the lazy EE
2017-10-06T23:21:21 < Steffanx> i always thought lazy was good
2017-10-06T23:21:30  * upgrdman nods
2017-10-06T23:25:08 < zyp> Steffanx, the bitcoin you sent me has increased in value by $.15 since the other day, do you want to share the profit?
2017-10-06T23:25:10 < Thorn> which one is more reliable, ws2812b or sk6812
2017-10-06T23:25:17 < Steffanx> lol zyp
2017-10-06T23:25:20 < Steffanx> Hell yeah
2017-10-06T23:26:00 < zyp> :p
2017-10-06T23:26:04 < upgrdman> for a quad resistor network, is 1206 package the really small one? i dont want the super small one, cant trust cn ass houses to not solder bridge.
2017-10-06T23:26:58 < zyp> Steffanx, on the other hand, you spent $.74 in fees just to send them
2017-10-06T23:27:16 < Steffanx> nah, i was joking anyway. I have no use for bitcoins
2017-10-06T23:27:55 < zyp> hehe
2017-10-06T23:28:02 < zyp> how come you had it?
2017-10-06T23:28:29 < zyp> nicehash or some shit like that?
2017-10-06T23:28:41 < Steffanx> Bought them to "pay" for opensubtitles.org vip.
2017-10-06T23:29:00 < zyp> ah
2017-10-06T23:29:22 < Steffanx> bitcoins left in the wallet apparently were worth 5$ now.
2017-10-06T23:29:49 < zyp> yeah
2017-10-06T23:30:07 < zyp> $3.25 when you left them
2017-10-06T23:30:23 < zyp>   and vip was $12.24?
2017-10-06T23:33:43 < Steffanx> 10 euro, not sure how much $ that is
2017-10-06T23:41:28 <@englishman> upgrdman: yes 1206 is small but still doable. it's like having four 0402 1/16W resistors.
2017-10-06T23:41:35 <@englishman> and put them in as a single block.
2017-10-06T23:41:49 <@englishman> it will make pinswapping for routing easier later.
2017-10-06T23:42:06 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-06T23:42:50 <@englishman> zyp, gfci outlet worked with earth connected. \o/
2017-10-06T23:43:02 <@englishman> now i can run christmas lights suspended directly above the hot tub.
2017-10-06T23:48:04 < zyp> nice
2017-10-06T23:51:01 < upgrdman> resistor networks... some have the contacts on the flat parts, other on the concave parts. why. is one more reliable?
2017-10-06T23:52:29 < Thorn> I think there was an appnote about that. dongs should know
2017-10-06T23:54:11 <@englishman> dono the difference but all my stock is convex
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2017-10-07T00:48:29 <@englishman> https://i.imgur.com/ab0ovjx.gifv
2017-10-07T00:49:12 < Steffanx> Yeah, wind was niice yesterday. Not sure where this video was taken.. germany i guess?
2017-10-07T00:49:35 <@englishman> da
2017-10-07T01:07:25 < karlp> got her down ok right
2017-10-07T01:07:29 < karlp> jpa-: thanks man!
2017-10-07T01:07:34 < karlp> kakimir: you too! well done!
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2017-10-07T01:13:24 < Steffanx> what did the finnish do?!
2017-10-07T01:13:36 < zyp> maybe they finished
2017-10-07T01:14:01 < Steffanx> oh soccer.
2017-10-07T01:14:04 < Steffanx> finland failed.
2017-10-07T01:14:22 < Steffanx> or succeeded, not sure how to put it
2017-10-07T01:15:11 <@englishman> they got drunk and had a sauna, i'd call that a success
2017-10-07T01:15:19 < Steffanx> No worries karlp, dutchland wont make it.
2017-10-07T01:16:34 < karlp> we've already tought you your lessons anyway ;)
2017-10-07T01:16:50 < karlp> taught me the english I've forgotten though, perhaps not.
2017-10-07T01:17:43 < karlp> finland succeeded in glory for themselves, even if they can't qualify, but most importanly, pulled out a draw against croatia, leaving iceland at the top of group I, with only kosovo left to play
2017-10-07T01:17:53 < Steffanx> englishman, they got drunk in the sauna aand didnt die afterwards while taking a cold bath in a lake.. that's a success indeed.
2017-10-07T01:17:57 < karlp> monday night a draw or better at home gets us into the world cup!
2017-10-07T01:18:37 < Steffanx> even when dutchland happens to go there, iceland will easily beat them
2017-10-07T01:18:58 < Steffanx> ( in dutchland one can no longer talk about "us", its just "them")
2017-10-07T01:19:44 < karlp> hehe
2017-10-07T01:19:50 < karlp> and that my friend, is the difference :)
2017-10-07T01:19:56 < karlp> was the same with england,
2017-10-07T01:20:03 < karlp> england fans booing their own team.
2017-10-07T01:21:16 < Steffanx> hah
2017-10-07T01:30:53 < marble_visions> does this look like an stm? https://www.aimagin.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/m/amgsqlitedatabase-sdcard-bundle.png
2017-10-07T01:31:12 < marble_visions> i can't figure it out
2017-10-07T01:32:56 <@englishman> yes
2017-10-07T01:33:30 < marble_visions> nice
2017-10-07T01:35:20 <@englishman> attn qyx https://www.aimagin.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/s/s/ss1.jpg
2017-10-07T01:37:29 < BrainDamage> is that an anal probe to measure cavity humdity?
2017-10-07T01:52:20 < kakimir> blade runner - check
2017-10-07T01:53:07 < kakimir> not 5/5
2017-10-07T01:54:03 < kakimir> but for over 3hour movie it was quite short
2017-10-07T01:54:50 < kakimir> harrison ford way better than expected - way better
2017-10-07T01:55:46 < kakimir> not one of those "kill my character already"
2017-10-07T01:58:02 < kakimir> like in star wars
2017-10-07T02:00:53 < kakimir> movie had like proper 2 level twist so when you waited for the obivious thing there was more
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2017-10-07T02:28:04 < ReadErr> burr
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2017-10-07T03:01:55 < Rob235> oh shit, its in that cabbage crap
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2017-10-07T03:49:45 < theepot> steffan's teapot
2017-10-07T03:49:56 < theepot> good morning englishman
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2017-10-07T04:21:58 < upgrdman> what genre is this music   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2jyqPOVUHc
2017-10-07T04:30:07 < upgrdman> found crt   https://i.imgur.com/vwI6Au3.gifv
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2017-10-07T04:39:20 < aandrew> https://i.redd.it/3gp6ef61n7qz.jpg
2017-10-07T04:39:20 < aandrew> ##stm32 in action
2017-10-07T04:48:06 < lomas> :D :D
2017-10-07T04:49:45 < theepot> ty
2017-10-07T04:50:10 < theepot> hi upgrdman
2017-10-07T04:51:14 < upgrdman> hi theepot
2017-10-07T04:54:47 < theepot> ty
2017-10-07T04:54:55 < theepot> where is that crt mate
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2017-10-07T05:15:20 < ds2> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee PCBs in the fab
2017-10-07T05:28:17 < theepot> better install some stm32
2017-10-07T05:40:05 <@englishman> upgrdman: edm
2017-10-07T05:40:14 < upgrdman> englishman, k thx
2017-10-07T05:43:22  * theepot waves to englishman 
2017-10-07T05:43:43 <@englishman> herro
2017-10-07T05:43:50 < theepot> hey mun whazzup
2017-10-07T05:43:59 <@englishman> innovation complete for the week
2017-10-07T05:44:09 <@englishman> this weekend is 🦃 weekend
2017-10-07T05:44:09 < theepot> niice
2017-10-07T05:44:48 < theepot> yah im in the shop
2017-10-07T05:45:04 < theepot> crt express service
2017-10-07T05:45:07 <@englishman> replacing capacitors on a saturday
2017-10-07T05:45:16 < theepot> nah tactile switches and such
2017-10-07T05:45:17 <@englishman> yea its a good feeling
2017-10-07T05:45:18 < theepot> blue leds
2017-10-07T05:45:23 <@englishman> tuesday a guy dropped off pcbs
2017-10-07T05:45:32 <@englishman> 8am wednesday i was at his placed with completed boards
2017-10-07T05:45:36 < theepot> pcbs r good
2017-10-07T05:45:57 <@englishman> blue -> pink
2017-10-07T05:46:26 < theepot> nah not pink day
2017-10-07T05:48:52 < theepot> just undoing attempts to repair traces
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2017-10-07T05:51:55 < theepot> 60/40 or 63/37 englishman
2017-10-07T05:52:09 <@englishman> neither? throw that antique shit in the garbage
2017-10-07T05:52:27 < theepot> u SAC?
2017-10-07T05:52:36 <@englishman> 99.3/0.7 or g t f o
2017-10-07T05:52:47 < theepot> cupper tin
2017-10-07T05:54:06 < theepot> kester mate?
2017-10-07T05:55:57 <@englishman> MG
2017-10-07T05:58:10 < theepot> i had to use my suder paste the other day
2017-10-07T06:05:43 <@englishman> i just cleaned up most of the day today, i can see the floor and desk surfaces again
2017-10-07T06:08:22 <@englishman> do you have one of these stvn https://i.imgur.com/hlbgpjR.gifv
2017-10-07T06:12:40 < theepot> lol
2017-10-07T06:14:12 < theepot> the old self loading rifle
2017-10-07T06:14:56 <@englishman> the joke is, that is not a bump-fire stock
2017-10-07T06:15:05 <@englishman> that is a regular gun that someone animated with that pumping motion
2017-10-07T06:15:35 < theepot> its probably fully auto anyway
2017-10-07T06:15:44 < theepot> given the grenade launcher equipped lol
2017-10-07T06:15:56 <@englishman> flare launcher, and probably yea, since its from a videogame
2017-10-07T06:16:09 < theepot> lel
2017-10-07T06:17:25 < upgrdman> englishman, whats different between 993/07 and sac305?
2017-10-07T06:17:40 < upgrdman> i mean, noticeable. i know the alloys are diff.
2017-10-07T06:17:55 <@englishman> there are a couple i think
2017-10-07T06:17:57 <@englishman> some have silver
2017-10-07T06:17:59 <@englishman> not sure tbh
2017-10-07T06:18:06 < theepot> sac has silva
2017-10-07T06:18:11 < theepot> sn ag cu
2017-10-07T06:18:30 <@englishman> but ive noticed theres a lot of different alloys that all call themselves "sac305"
2017-10-07T06:18:36 <@englishman> so maybe sac305 is a certification
2017-10-07T06:18:40 < upgrdman> o
2017-10-07T06:19:19 < upgrdman> just ordered a syringe of some sac305 today at work. i guess i'll find out if its decent soon enough.
2017-10-07T06:19:39 < upgrdman> only ever use leaded paste, leaded wire and lead-free wire.
2017-10-07T06:20:12 < theepot> the seppos were arksin why god didn't stop da shooten
2017-10-07T06:20:18 <@englishman> o wait
2017-10-07T06:20:22 <@englishman> maybe my shit is actually SN99
2017-10-07T06:21:18 < dale6998_> with HAL, if I have two compare channels running on a single timer with different OCR's, how do I get an interrupt from each output compare?
2017-10-07T06:21:33 < upgrdman> only one interrupt per timer
2017-10-07T06:21:53 < upgrdman> so you'd need to check the status register when in the isr and behave accordingly.
2017-10-07T06:22:17 < dale6998_> ok, so what's the right way to deal with the different channel compares?  Do I do an if(TIM1->OCR1) type of thing within the interrupt?
2017-10-07T06:22:23 < upgrdman> well, at least for the stm32's i've dicked with. not sure about all.
2017-10-07T06:22:40 < dale6998_> ah, ok
2017-10-07T06:22:55 < upgrdman> i haven't played with compare. check the rm.
2017-10-07T06:22:57 <@englishman> that's all HAL does actually
2017-10-07T06:23:12 <@englishman> when the interrupt fires it checks to see which flag is up
2017-10-07T06:23:24 <@englishman> then goes to its own named function for that flag
2017-10-07T06:23:39 < upgrdman> oh shit, i didnt see the "hal" part. i gave up on hal long ago. ignore my comment.
2017-10-07T06:23:55 <@englishman> your statement is still true
2017-10-07T06:24:34 < dale6998_> englishman: yeah, but when i look at the generated stm32f4xx_it.c file, all i see is this:
2017-10-07T06:25:02 <@englishman> ok so stvn is correct sac305 is the sn/ag/cu alloy
2017-10-07T06:25:04 < dale6998_> void TIM4_IRQHandler(void)
2017-10-07T06:25:04 < dale6998_> {
2017-10-07T06:25:04 < dale6998_>   /* USER CODE BEGIN TIM4_IRQn 0 */
2017-10-07T06:25:04 < dale6998_>   /* USER CODE END TIM4_IRQn 0 */
2017-10-07T06:25:04 < dale6998_>   HAL_TIM_IRQHandler(&htim4);
2017-10-07T06:25:06 < dale6998_>   /* USER CODE BEGIN TIM4_IRQn 1 */
2017-10-07T06:25:09 < dale6998_>   /* USER CODE END TIM4_IRQn 1 */
2017-10-07T06:25:11 < dale6998_> }
2017-10-07T06:25:32 <@englishman> where does hal_tim_irqhandler go
2017-10-07T06:27:32 < dale6998_> englishman: https://pastebin.com/3A9sg0Q0
2017-10-07T06:27:59 <@englishman> thats what you already pasted...?
2017-10-07T06:28:38 < dale6998_> englishman: ahhh...sorry, vim's x-clipboard behavior has let me down again..
2017-10-07T06:28:49 < theepot> lunix,
2017-10-07T06:28:53 <@englishman> ^
2017-10-07T06:28:58 < theepot> don't trigger senpai
2017-10-07T06:30:57 < theepot> LR3410
2017-10-07T06:33:02 < dale6998_> englishman:  ok, here we go...https://pastebin.com/rUmDS8Ew
2017-10-07T06:34:07 < dale6998_> englishman: i'm very...unfluent in C, but it looks like it's some implementation of a catch-all function...I've avoided modifying it because the cubemx never touches it, so i thought there was a better place to interract with these functions
2017-10-07T06:34:42 <@englishman> well you'd be right
2017-10-07T06:34:54 < dale6998_> englishman: well, at least, a place that was intended to be modified probably wasn't this function...but, maybe i'm wrong
2017-10-07T06:34:55 <@englishman> TIM4_IRQHandler is what is called by the interrupt controller
2017-10-07T06:35:02 <@englishman> its location is stored in the interrupt vector table
2017-10-07T06:35:10 <@englishman> then HAL takes over
2017-10-07T06:35:31 <@englishman> it reads the interrupt flags and calls all those different functions
2017-10-07T06:36:15 <@englishman> so go deeper into ex. HAL_TIM_IC_CaptureCallback and see what hal gives you there
2017-10-07T06:36:26 < dale6998_> englishman: is this an example of a callback function?
2017-10-07T06:36:37 <@englishman> btw there's also a handy .chm file that breaks down hal into an easy to navigate file
2017-10-07T06:36:44 < dale6998_> englishman: haha, oh good!
2017-10-07T06:37:54 <@englishman> i dont think so, doesnt a callback take the calling function as its parameter
2017-10-07T06:39:46 < dale6998_> englishman: i have no practical idea...i have, however, paroozed the wikipedia article late one night...i also stayed in a holiday inn express last night.
2017-10-07T06:42:01 < dale6998_> englishman: ok, so that file comes with a little more info in it's comments:
2017-10-07T06:42:40 < dale6998_> __weak void HAL_TIM_IC_CaptureCallback(TIM_HandleTypeDef *htim)
2017-10-07T06:42:40 < dale6998_> {
2017-10-07T06:42:40 < dale6998_>   /* Prevent unused argument(s) compilation warning */
2017-10-07T06:42:40 < dale6998_>   UNUSED(htim);
2017-10-07T06:42:40 < dale6998_>   /* NOTE : This function Should not be modified, when the callback is needed,
2017-10-07T06:42:43 < dale6998_>             the __HAL_TIM_IC_CaptureCallback could be implemented in the user file
2017-10-07T06:42:46 < dale6998_>    */
2017-10-07T06:42:48 < dale6998_> }
2017-10-07T06:44:03 <@englishman> oh yeah, cube will generate that for you when you enable that interupt function generator in cube
2017-10-07T06:44:07 < dale6998_> englishman: so, and thanks for humoring me, it sounds like i need to write a function called __HAL_TIM_IC_CaptureCallback in a different file, right?
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2017-10-07T07:08:37 < theepot> PANEL CPU
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2017-10-07T07:25:46 <@englishman> the modern qfp ic https://i.imgur.com/SmxXcqY.jpg
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2017-10-07T07:33:09 < theepot> :3
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2017-10-07T09:10:31 < stvn> meep
2017-10-07T09:12:30 < stvn> []
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2017-10-07T09:24:10 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkgTxQm9DWM
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2017-10-07T09:45:10 < ohsix> dave saying 'suck it and see'
2017-10-07T09:45:37 < ohsix> i kind of want to pick up that affect, but i don't know if he's doing it to be a little lewd
2017-10-07T10:18:24 < stvn> fucken nigger
2017-10-07T10:18:33 < dongs> bwahaha
2017-10-07T10:18:57 < dongs> so dickstarter shti taking their crap to uk in like 16 hours
2017-10-07T10:19:02 < dongs> the dude just tells me
2017-10-07T10:19:09 < dongs> "hey i just realized uk is 220V
2017-10-07T10:19:16 < dongs> "all my shit is now setup for 110V only"
2017-10-07T10:24:22 < stvn> ?
2017-10-07T10:24:28 < stvn> 230v
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2017-10-07T10:24:33 < stvn> fucking stupid niggers
2017-10-07T10:24:53 < stvn> was most likely 240v like .au until we cucked i
2017-10-07T10:24:56 < stvn> *in
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2017-10-07T10:31:05 < dongs> this is hilarious, tehy're ordering 220>110V transformer shit to deliver to hotel
2017-10-07T10:31:11 < dongs> from amazon
2017-10-07T10:31:13 < dongs> like 2kW thing
2017-10-07T10:46:16 < PaulFertser> LOL. Is the dude really THAT clueless? How were they going to sell to EU anyway?
2017-10-07T10:48:27 < PaulFertser> I mean, it's really kinda obvious that 230V is in widespread use as you take just about any home appliance and see the input range there on the PSU. It can't _not_ ring a bell, right?
2017-10-07T10:55:54 < ds2> there are different flavors of 230V
2017-10-07T10:56:44 < PaulFertser> 50/60Hz? I thought 60Hz is not usually used for 230V AC mains.
2017-10-07T10:56:58 < ds2> sure it is
2017-10-07T10:57:10 < ds2> 230V in the US is often 2 PH
2017-10-07T10:57:31 < ds2> then there is also the nominal 230V  that is 128deg out (2 legs of 3PH)
2017-10-07T10:58:15 < ds2> most homes in the US are fed with 230V 2PH and 110V is 1PH of it against a center tap
2017-10-07T10:58:55 < PaulFertser> But the normal sockets/outlets in the US provide 110V 60Hz right?
2017-10-07T10:59:12 < ds2> "normal"? define normal
2017-10-07T10:59:22 < PaulFertser> Regular household.
2017-10-07T10:59:30 < ds2> dryer and stove are usually 240V 60Hz
2017-10-07T10:59:41 < ds2> and they are found in regular house holds
2017-10-07T10:59:54 < PaulFertser> Ok, got it.
2017-10-07T10:59:55 < ds2> but for lower power stuff, yes, 110V @ 60Hz is more common
2017-10-07T11:01:06 < PaulFertser> Since most devices are using diode rectifiers as the first input stage the actual frequency doesn't matter much usually.
2017-10-07T11:02:06 < ds2> if you feed it into a switcher sure... for a linear supply, it or a transformer, the freq can matter
2017-10-07T11:02:37 < PaulFertser> Yep
2017-10-07T11:03:42 < PaulFertser> btw, are you personally happy with having to use thicker wires (compared with the EU standards) inside the house due to this 110V thing?
2017-10-07T11:04:03 < ds2> how thick is wiring in EU?
2017-10-07T11:04:09 < ds2> #26? ;)
2017-10-07T11:06:13 < PaulFertser> It's usually argued that 110V is safer because lower voltage, but with RCDs required everywhere that doesn't seem to be that important anymore.
2017-10-07T11:08:03 < PaulFertser> Well, a regular socket provides up to 16A 230V, so with 110V it would be more than twice the current, so you'd need considerably more area, so the wiring is more expensive.
2017-10-07T11:08:45 < PaulFertser> I don't know for sure but I hope the EU regulations do not use AWG ;)
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2017-10-07T11:16:46 < zyp> 16A circuits is usually wired with 2.5mm2, which is approximately awg13
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2017-10-07T12:29:04 < dongs> huh
2017-10-07T12:29:22 < dongs> why the shit arm docs mention nothing about input/output ranges for its dsp lib pid controller thing
2017-10-07T12:29:25 < dongs> https://www.keil.com/pack/doc/CMSIS/DSP/html/group__PID.html
2017-10-07T12:29:40 < dongs> like what is the error and result returned in?
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2017-10-07T12:51:26 < dongs> wtf this shit doesnt make any sense
2017-10-07T12:51:38 < dongs> theres like 5 google results about people using that crap
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2017-10-07T13:03:44 < jadew> seems impossible to get an USB to RS-232 converter
2017-10-07T13:03:59 < jadew> I bought two cables advertised as such and they're both TTL
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2017-10-07T13:07:34 < jadew> and nobody seems to specify what kind of cable they're selling
2017-10-07T13:09:07 < dongs> um
2017-10-07T13:09:12 < dongs> RS232 will have the fucking DB9 on it
2017-10-07T13:09:19 < dongs> isnt that obvious
2017-10-07T13:09:23 < jadew> it has the DB9 connector on it
2017-10-07T13:09:32 < jadew> it speaks the protocol, it doesn't have the levels
2017-10-07T13:09:33 < dongs> and a MAX232 o someshit
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2017-10-07T13:09:38 < jadew> yeah, doesn't have that
2017-10-07T13:09:52 < dongs> then you get a refund
2017-10-07T13:09:56 < dongs> because that doesnt compute
2017-10-07T13:10:01 < jadew> indeed
2017-10-07T13:10:15 < jadew> I'm going now to the shop, but I hope I won't come back with another TTL cable
2017-10-07T13:10:49 < kOStiX> https://imgur.com/a/GqtSy
2017-10-07T13:10:54 < kOStiX> been working on this
2017-10-07T13:11:46 < dongs> better than any product judew has created so far
2017-10-07T13:11:49 < dongs> cuz: it works
2017-10-07T13:12:14 < jadew> can't argue with that
2017-10-07T13:12:46 < dongs> less autism, more MAKE
2017-10-07T13:12:48 < dongs> more success
2017-10-07T13:13:29 < jadew> I'm going back to the shop before they close
2017-10-07T13:13:37 < jadew> hope I'll get a working cable this time
2017-10-07T13:13:46 < kOStiX> been lotsa hassle making the front panel
2017-10-07T13:15:57 < dongs> next step: get a musician to actually make soemthing good wiht it
2017-10-07T13:15:59 < dongs> as a demo
2017-10-07T13:16:06 < kOStiX> yah
2017-10-07T13:16:26 < kOStiX> im actually building couple of these as a request from band here
2017-10-07T13:17:10 < kOStiX> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62wNvNOxnKI
2017-10-07T13:20:09 < Steffanx> Hah. It looks more impressive than the sound it makes (at least in the video)
2017-10-07T13:20:47 < kOStiX> it can make lotsa different kind of sound hehe
2017-10-07T13:21:51 < qyx> jadew: situation here is different, it is hard to get a TTL-level cable
2017-10-07T13:21:54 < Steffanx> But mainly chiptuneish sounds?
2017-10-07T13:22:23 < kOStiX> its a pwm dac, the resolution is controllable and arbitrary aswell as other wave modifier stuff
2017-10-07T13:22:49 < Steffanx> For a ttl level cable one just buys a ftdi cablr with 2.54mm header online...
2017-10-07T13:23:41 < qyx> why are the poly hold switches unaligned?
2017-10-07T13:24:08 < kOStiX> they are angled
2017-10-07T13:24:10 < kOStiX> on purpose
2017-10-07T13:24:18 < kOStiX> aswell as the upper row of the 3 knobs
2017-10-07T13:36:21 < kOStiX> ok im off to bed, good night/day to all!
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2017-10-07T14:02:29 < jadew> I think this is it
2017-10-07T14:02:56 < jadew> I connected it to the scope and the output is shit with no data
2017-10-07T14:03:03 < jadew> sign of a shitty boost converter
2017-10-07T14:04:37 < jadew> yep
2017-10-07T14:05:33 < karlp> dongs: there's an intro section to the dsp stuff
2017-10-07T14:05:37 < karlp> it's all -1..1
2017-10-07T14:07:23 < jadew> LMFAO, it doesn't fit
2017-10-07T14:07:34 < jadew> instead of having screws, it has fucking nuts
2017-10-07T14:08:41 < jadew> http://www.bilder.tragant.de/produkte/orig/53281fcaca9255.80882060.jpg
2017-10-07T14:09:02 < qyx> whats wrong with it
2017-10-07T14:09:13 < qyx> the female has screws
2017-10-07T14:09:17 < jadew> it won't fit into a female connector
2017-10-07T14:10:07 < jadew> why would the connector on a device have screws?
2017-10-07T14:10:35 < qyx> wait what
2017-10-07T14:11:33 < BrainDamage> jadew: normally the bolt shaft goes all the way trough the shell and protrudes with a screwhead
2017-10-07T14:11:46 < qyx> https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1GOKiLpXXXXaXXXXXq6xXFXXX8/10P-to-DB9-font-b-Serial-b-font-font-b-Port-b-font-Bracket-MainBoard-10P.jpg
2017-10-07T14:12:07 < BrainDamage> oh, you got the male, damn, didn't pay attention
2017-10-07T14:12:14 < karlp> qyx: right,
2017-10-07T14:12:16 < karlp> so?
2017-10-07T14:12:28 < qyx> I don't get it
2017-10-07T14:12:34 < qyx> jadew doesn't have a device
2017-10-07T14:12:35 < karlp> jadew got the one that lets his pc pretend it has a serial port
2017-10-07T14:12:36 < qyx> it has a "host"
2017-10-07T14:12:47 < karlp> that's why it has a usb a port?
2017-10-07T14:13:03 < jadew> I think that's what happened
2017-10-07T14:13:19 < karlp> (which is the most common thing people buy this for..)
2017-10-07T14:13:23 < qyx> look on a pc motherboard
2017-10-07T14:13:23 < karlp> what were you hoping to get?
2017-10-07T14:13:32 < qyx> I don't remember a pc with a rs232 female port
2017-10-07T14:13:36 < qyx> like this http://img.hexus.net/v2/motherboards/amd/asus/am2_duel/M2N32/backplane-big.jpg
2017-10-07T14:13:44 < jadew> karlp, a cable I could plug into my device
2017-10-07T14:13:49 < BrainDamage> i guess he wanted to plug directly into a device
2017-10-07T14:13:50 < jadew> (which has a mother connector)
2017-10-07T14:13:52 < jadew> yeah
2017-10-07T14:14:00 < BrainDamage> but normally female-female cables would be used
2017-10-07T14:14:04 < qyx> yes
2017-10-07T14:14:07 < karlp> no, you go buyyuourself a serial cable now.
2017-10-07T14:14:15 < karlp> if you wanted to use a usb cable, you dun fukked up
2017-10-07T14:14:35 < BrainDamage> he wanted to skip the serial cable i guess
2017-10-07T14:14:35 < jadew> I'll try to unscrew the nuts
2017-10-07T14:14:41 < jadew> yes
2017-10-07T14:14:51 < jadew> I have a serial cable, but it's male-male
2017-10-07T14:15:00 < qyx> weird
2017-10-07T14:15:04 < BrainDamage> you could probably find a female-female rigid adapter, and use the serial as flexible part
2017-10-07T14:15:13 < BrainDamage> use the usb*
2017-10-07T14:15:21 < BrainDamage> but mechanically it'll be kinda shit
2017-10-07T14:16:01 < qyx> those adapters usually convert your usb host into a rs232 "host"
2017-10-07T14:16:09 < qyx> not the "device" rs232 to a usb device
2017-10-07T14:17:23 < jadew> doesn't seem to unscrew
2017-10-07T14:17:31 < jadew> I'll see what cables I have available
2017-10-07T14:18:15 < BrainDamage> well, there's no host and client in rs232, just need to crossover the various signals
2017-10-07T14:18:44 < qyx> true, but usually the "device" has a male port too
2017-10-07T14:18:47 < qyx> and uses a nullmodem cable
2017-10-07T14:19:30 < qyx> all industrial stuff uses males when mounted on a panel
2017-10-07T14:19:38 < BrainDamage> yeah, the nullmodem has the xover
2017-10-07T14:19:57 < qyx> some devices uses females with screws, but only if it can be plugged directly to the computer
2017-10-07T14:20:16 < qyx> (ie. it is on a cable, not on a panel/pcb)
2017-10-07T14:21:01 < jadew> right, I didn't consider that I have to cross over the signals
2017-10-07T14:21:22 < jadew> grr...
2017-10-07T14:23:43 < qyx> but it seems that even the statement about the industrial devices is sometimes false
2017-10-07T14:24:02 < qyx> apparently they are able to use whatever fits
2017-10-07T14:24:08 < jadew> btw, this connector is on an agilent sig gen
2017-10-07T14:25:06 < jadew> they closed, otherwise I would have gone there to buy a null modem cable and some male to female adapter
2017-10-07T14:25:29 < qyx> mhm, agilent/keysight psu we used all had a male connector
2017-10-07T14:25:41 < qyx> like this https://www.testequity.com/Images/modelenlarged/Keysight-E3640A-E3641A-E3642A-E3643A-E3644A-E3645A-enlarged.png
2017-10-07T14:25:50 < BrainDamage> the solution is obviously to solder manually a thin wire to each pin :J
2017-10-07T14:26:08 < jadew> BrainDamage, I can use jumper wires, but I don't want to ruin another set
2017-10-07T14:26:27 < jadew> (they get loose after this operation)
2017-10-07T14:26:27 < BrainDamage> i tought the ':J' made it evident i wasn't serious
2017-10-07T14:26:45 < jadew> I know, but the jumper wire thing is actually an option until I get a proper adapter
2017-10-07T14:26:47 < jadew> or make one
2017-10-07T14:27:19 < BrainDamage> oh man the fucking gpib, i used a gpib to ethernet bridge by agilent while writing my thesis, it was a gigantic piece of shit with the drivers
2017-10-07T14:27:58 < BrainDamage> it was almost like the weather could affect it
2017-10-07T14:28:04 < jadew> I could use the GPIB port, but I only have one cable and I have to connect another device via GPIB for this test
2017-10-07T14:29:32 < jadew> BrainDamage, I have similar issues with my GPIB adapter, but I made that one myself
2017-10-07T14:29:48 < jadew> I'm sure I could fix it up, but I have better things to do
2017-10-07T14:35:03 < dongs> karlp: oh
2017-10-07T14:35:07 < dongs> karlp: hwere?
2017-10-07T14:38:11 < dongs> so fucking ARMCC
2017-10-07T14:38:18 < dongs> i have ..\faggot.h
2017-10-07T14:38:21 < dongs> and faggot.h
2017-10-07T14:38:31 < dongs> i have "." in front of ".." in include order
2017-10-07T14:38:36 < dongs> guess which faggot.h it takes first?/
2017-10-07T14:42:05 < jadew> I found an issue in VS regarding include order and it was never fixed
2017-10-07T14:42:26 < jadew> I reported it right after VS 2015 came out
2017-10-07T14:44:06 < jadew> if you have a library and you include it like <mystuff.h> and in mystuff.h you do #include "whatever.h" but whatever.h is also present in another library, it will include the one from the other library
2017-10-07T14:47:24 < jadew> figuring that out drove me nuts
2017-10-07T14:48:04 < jadew> because it was complaining about missing declarations but I could clearly see that I was including the file
2017-10-07T14:55:38 < karlp> dongs: hrm, it talks about it a lot in the filtering section, http://www.keil.com/pack/doc/CMSIS/DSP/html/group__BiquadCascadeDF1.html
2017-10-07T14:55:46 < karlp> I thought I'd seen a more general intro for it.
2017-10-07T14:56:34 < karlp> yeah, the pid control section has _wayyy_ less docs :)
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2017-10-07T15:04:45 < dongs> yeah
2017-10-07T15:04:55 < dongs> i found an example that most definitely doesnt use -1..1 range
2017-10-07T15:05:01 < dongs> so i don't think thats it either
2017-10-07T15:05:43 < dongs> https://books.google.com.tw/books?id=su8QCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA283&lpg=PA283&dq=arm_pid_f32&source=bl&ots=lq1WEDHV5S&sig=DqqKTCWZbtdSJfMwEWdEBh4g0Z0&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=arm_pid_f32&f=false
2017-10-07T15:05:47 < dongs> there's also this
2017-10-07T15:06:10 < dongs> they even show screenshots from keil logic analyzer window
2017-10-07T15:06:33 < dongs> but their example is even more weird
2017-10-07T15:06:44 < dongs> cuz they call arm_pid_init with init flag actually set to 0
2017-10-07T15:07:19 < dongs> i guess the units must be same for input and output
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2017-10-07T15:31:42 < Steffanx> links to google books are worse than amp! dongs. As not everyone can see those books
2017-10-07T15:31:56 < Steffanx> > page view limit
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2017-10-07T15:41:31 < dongs> rly?
2017-10-07T15:41:34 < dongs> you cant see it
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2017-10-07T16:06:18 < dongs> --sys_include for armcc to use search path first
2017-10-07T16:06:30 < dongs> and never assuming to look for file in samea path as .c first
2017-10-07T16:15:08 < zyp> dongs, do you use #include <faggot.h> or #include "faggot.h"?
2017-10-07T16:18:47 < dongs> i use ""
2017-10-07T16:18:52 < dongs> but i also have proper inclue paths.
2017-10-07T16:18:58 < zyp> then that's your problem
2017-10-07T16:19:20 < dongs> i never put my custom include files as < >
2017-10-07T16:19:25 < dongs> thats strictly for system shit, no?
2017-10-07T16:19:33 < zyp> the difference between "" and <> is that "" always tries relative path first, <> only tries searchpath
2017-10-07T16:19:39 < dongs> ic
2017-10-07T16:19:46 < dongs> well, --sys_include fixes that in armcc
2017-10-07T16:19:53 < zyp> I use "" exclusively for relative paths, <> for anything else
2017-10-07T16:21:55 < dongs> i might have to start doing that at some point
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2017-10-07T17:32:51 < Steffanx> Breaking news: Laurenceb goes road rage (again) in London.
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2017-10-07T18:00:24  * karlp fires up cube
2017-10-07T18:06:01 < Steffanx>  Cube to use as pin planner isnt that bad
2017-10-07T18:06:09 < karlp> that's exactly what I'm using it for :)
2017-10-07T18:06:12 < Steffanx> Imho
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2017-10-07T19:38:27 < Rob235> hello
2017-10-07T19:42:59 < Tectu> hello
2017-10-07T19:43:09 < Rob235> whats up
2017-10-07T19:43:28 < Tectu> no
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2017-10-07T19:43:57 < Rob235> got any good projects going on?
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2017-10-07T19:46:01 < Rob235> great talk! done with lunch, back to work :)
2017-10-07T19:47:31 < Tectu> hah :p
2017-10-07T19:47:33 < Tectu> take care o/
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2017-10-07T20:00:09 < Rob235> hrmm, was doing the dishes and the water started coming out yellow
2017-10-07T20:14:14 < Thorn> what is the point of the f410 line, only 32kB RAM and no USB and seems to be more expensive than f401 (64kB and OTG FS)
2017-10-07T20:36:13 < zyp> it has DAC and BAM
2017-10-07T20:36:23 < zyp> according to the family overview
2017-10-07T20:37:29 < zyp> lower power, it seems the goal is
2017-10-07T20:39:33 < dongs> oh fucking
2017-10-07T20:40:01 < dongs> HANDS-OFF IS THE NEW HANDS-ON - Allowing MAKERS to create with more efficiency with a press of a button
2017-10-07T20:59:13 < Steffanx> Hows the web ui Rob235 ?
2017-10-07T21:00:44 < Rob235> pretty good, working on the conversion from jpg/png/bmp to lines
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2017-10-07T21:54:34 < Thorn> how do I upgrade stm32 firmware over bluetooth
2017-10-07T21:54:50 < Thorn> does the BLE chip need to pull the stm32 reset
2017-10-07T21:56:28 < Thorn> or maybe a uart/spi connection is enough and the stm32 will enter the bootloader via software when it receives a command
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2017-10-07T22:09:23 < jadew> Steffanx, they say it's not terror related
2017-10-07T22:10:26 < jadew> but the guy is black and being black in London and causing a traffic accident is not a smart move
2017-10-07T22:15:51 < Steffanx> haha indeed jadew
2017-10-07T22:16:55 < Steffanx> reminds me.. Laurenceb passed your drivers license theory exam yet?
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2017-10-07T22:30:52 <@englishman> attn Tectu
2017-10-07T22:30:59 <@englishman> i have bread
2017-10-07T22:31:02 <@englishman> cheese
2017-10-07T22:31:04 <@englishman> sausage
2017-10-07T22:31:06 <@englishman> kirsch
2017-10-07T22:31:08 <@englishman> wine
2017-10-07T22:31:17 <@englishman> important things happening
2017-10-07T22:31:21 < Tectu> oh boy
2017-10-07T22:31:27 < Tectu> folks, mark your calendars
2017-10-07T22:33:00 < Steffanx> englishchild is going to happen tonight?
2017-10-07T22:33:47 < Steffanx> not sure why i have to mark that but..
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2017-10-07T22:43:00 < upgrdman> for high performance code (where you will ACTUALLY look into cache misses, SIMD, etc.) is c/cpp still the only real choice?
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2017-10-08T00:00:46 < zyp> dongs, I just saw people have developed a programming language for you
2017-10-08T00:00:47 < zyp> https://github.com/Property404/fetlang
2017-10-08T00:42:21 < tpw_rules> > girls
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2017-10-08T02:04:48 < upgrdman> is 190MBps read speed (continuous) decent for a desktop class hdd?
2017-10-08T02:14:20 < Ultrasauce> probably acceptable
2017-10-08T02:14:36 < Ultrasauce> also to answer your previous question, more or less
2017-10-08T02:15:13 < Ultrasauce> anything managed and the gc quickly becomes a bottleneck without serious diligence
2017-10-08T02:15:16 < upgrdman> +/- re: c/cpp?
2017-10-08T02:15:19 < Ultrasauce> yeah
2017-10-08T02:15:20 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-08T02:15:33 < Ultrasauce> might want to look into more modern hybrid languages like rust though
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2017-10-08T03:46:59 < karlp> "quickly becomes a bottleneck" is a bit of a reach IMO Ultrasauce
2017-10-08T03:48:09 < karlp> there's alot of "high performance" code that's mostly about avoiding io, gc can run all day long
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2017-10-08T06:41:08 < Rob235> Conversion to drawing is getting there.  I don't have a loading indicator so it just freezes the page for a few seconds while its doing its thing, the 'Roberts' edge detector is broken, and the edge kernel size isn't set up so its always set to 3, and the Sobel isn't working as well as I'd hoped so I'm gonna have to tweak it... but if you move your mouse over your loaded image you will see a popup of the converted drawing! :P
2017-10-08T06:41:09 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-10-08T06:41:34 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/RvpI1
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2017-10-08T11:29:55 < ohsix> episode 2 of nathan for you has some fun mechanical junk & sight gags
2017-10-08T11:31:09 < ohsix> karlp: allocating a ton of memory for no reason would be a serious bottleneck too uhauha
2017-10-08T11:34:09 < ohsix> or just plain manipulating page flags
2017-10-08T11:40:37 < ohsix> what is new
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2017-10-08T13:19:51 < invzim> could they make USB any more complicated..
2017-10-08T13:21:50 < karlp> what's wrong now?
2017-10-08T13:23:42 < invzim> sifting through usb complete book, takes like 60 pages just to explain data flow
2017-10-08T13:34:40 < jpa-> if you wanted it simple, should have picked up the for dummies or nutshell book instead :P
2017-10-08T13:35:17 < jpa-> there isn't really anything about modern life that is simple if you want the "complete" picture of it
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2017-10-08T14:56:37 < zyp> invzim, since usb is layered, you don't need to care about all the layers at once
2017-10-08T14:59:33 < BrainDamage> you don't need all the transfer modes either, or all the profile types
2017-10-08T15:00:15 < BrainDamage> you'll end up selecting to care about  1-2 subsystem for each abstraction layer
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2017-10-08T15:33:36 < marble_visions> shouldn't alternate function pin assignments be in the reference manual? somewhere as a table under gpio?
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2017-10-08T15:34:25 < marble_visions> right now you need to switch back and forth between the ref man and user man
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2017-10-08T16:10:23 <@englishman> yeah they are in the datasheet, as the ref man can refer to a large family of chips that do not have the same AF mapping
2017-10-08T16:10:40 <@englishman> stm32cubemx is also pretty good for pinmapping etc
2017-10-08T16:10:51 <@englishman> iirc you hold down the shiftkey and it will show all pins with a certain function
2017-10-08T16:11:50 <@englishman> wow, roku has $400m revenue
2017-10-08T16:11:58 <@englishman> i wonder how much amazon firestick is bringing in
2017-10-08T16:12:26 < marble_visions> englishman: that makes sense, thanks
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2017-10-08T16:26:22 <@englishman> anyone here used this service? http://mycmp.fr/
2017-10-08T16:31:55 < karlp> seems a bit beyond most of what we generally acknowledge working on at least.
2017-10-08T16:32:22 <@englishman> surpring they put prices there at all
2017-10-08T16:32:40 <@englishman> but also interesting to note you can get bonded ICs for <1k eur / mm^2
2017-10-08T16:33:22 < karlp> yeah, we got some asic quote a few years back that was way cheaper than I was expecting
2017-10-08T16:33:42 <@englishman> see, not totally out of the ordinary if someone has in fact used them :)
2017-10-08T16:34:43 < invzim> ooh, making your own IC is next-level stuff :)
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2017-10-08T16:34:54 < karlp> englishman: true enogh
2017-10-08T16:35:09 < karlp> still back to the, "what do I need to make that is not just throw an mcu at it"
2017-10-08T16:37:11 < karlp> where do you see getting bonding in there as well?
2017-10-08T16:37:19 < karlp> price list says thats for bare dies?
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2017-10-08T16:38:51 <@englishman> it's further down in the pricing document
2017-10-08T16:39:39 < karlp> ah, ok, yeah, 650 euro per mm2 then the bonding was cheaper than I thought.
2017-10-08T16:39:40 < karlp>  neat
2017-10-08T16:40:27 < karlp> QFP cheaper than QFN though
2017-10-08T16:42:20 <@englishman> somewhat expected, no?
2017-10-08T16:42:32 <@englishman> oh no, the other way round
2017-10-08T16:42:57 <@englishman> hm maybe they are easier to bond
2017-10-08T16:43:09 < karlp> yeah, looks like CLCC is the cheapest in 40 pins, then ceramic dil, then qfp then qfn
2017-10-08T16:43:12  * karlp shrugs
2017-10-08T16:43:47 < invzim> how much black magic is involved?  I take it you use vhdl/verilog - synthesize into 'something' and then some kind of manual layout?
2017-10-08T16:44:22 < zyp> so it wouldn't be too expensive to throw down a risc-v and some custom peripherals and make some chips of it
2017-10-08T16:44:38 < zyp> that's pretty cool
2017-10-08T16:45:22 < invzim> it's neat that they give you the whole thing, i.e. packaged
2017-10-08T16:45:50 < invzim> only company I'm somewaht familiar with has the wafers made one place, and the assembly in a different country
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2017-10-08T16:56:23 < Thorn> what about verification
2017-10-08T17:01:02 < invzim> allright, wireshark does usb packets :)
2017-10-08T17:01:27 < zyp> not impressively so
2017-10-08T17:01:47 < zyp> usbmon only gives you a host perspective, not a bus perspective
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2017-10-08T18:09:33 < invzim> hmok, mouse movement is working
2017-10-08T18:10:20 < invzim> and going down to the 9th level, seems the library set up a DMA transfer so HID updates should be non-timing critical and non-blocking
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2017-10-08T19:40:35 < upgrdman> damn, the latest c++ in a nutshell book is from 2003. anyone want to recommend a book for people new to c++ but not new to programming or oop?
2017-10-08T19:48:41 < zyp> unless you're looking for C++11 features, what's wrong with a book from 2003?
2017-10-08T19:49:05 < upgrdman> isnt cpp up to c++17 now?
2017-10-08T19:56:24 < zyp> hmm, it's approved as a draft, not published yet
2017-10-08T19:56:31 < upgrdman> o ok
2017-10-08T19:56:43 < zyp> probably just minor improvements like 14
2017-10-08T19:56:46 < zyp> 11 was the big one
2017-10-08T19:56:54 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-08T20:11:28 < zyp> hmm, there's a coroutines proposal for C++20
2017-10-08T20:11:31 < zyp> that would be neat
2017-10-08T20:11:39 < upgrdman> dafuq's that
2017-10-08T20:11:42 < zyp> http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2017/n4649.pdf
2017-10-08T20:12:56 < zyp> coroutines makes it easy to write async code
2017-10-08T20:13:55 < upgrdman> oh i think i saw something like that in some javascript video
2017-10-08T20:13:59 < upgrdman> await shitz
2017-10-08T20:14:02 < zyp> yes
2017-10-08T20:14:11 < zyp> I've used it a bunch in python
2017-10-08T20:14:11 < upgrdman> ya looks like a neat paradigm
2017-10-08T20:17:19 < zyp> it eliminates having to write a bunch of explicit state machines
2017-10-08T20:20:50 < tpw_rules> python async is so good
2017-10-08T20:21:00 < tpw_rules> esp for modern code
2017-10-08T20:23:14 < zyp> yeah
2017-10-08T20:31:59 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/YzHbH <- I wrote this shit yesterday because I'm tired of my girlfriend leaving the tv on after she's done watching something
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2017-10-08T20:58:04 < Steffanx> java doesnt do that upgrdman? Even C# does..
2017-10-08T20:58:30 < upgrdman> Steffanx, await? i dont think do.
2017-10-08T20:58:46 < upgrdman> but i havnt looked into jdk8/9 much other than lambdas
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2017-10-08T20:59:55 < Steffanx> oh,  you can actually request the TV state from a chrome cast? Im actually not surprised, but i never thought about it
2017-10-08T21:04:10 < Steffanx> hmm, how does your server know about the chrome cast zyp? Made/used some connector?
2017-10-08T21:06:08 < Steffanx> *broker, whatever you call it.
2017-10-08T21:12:48 < zyp> well, yeah, I wrote that also yesterday
2017-10-08T21:13:17 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/a0REY <- this is pretty shitty polling code, but it works
2017-10-08T21:14:31 < zyp> status.app_id contains the id of the currently active app on the chromecast
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2017-10-08T21:14:53 < zyp> E8C28D3C is the background slideshow thing that it shows when nothing else is active
2017-10-08T21:15:24 < zyp> tv state is independent
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2017-10-08T21:16:21 < zyp> my tv can't be turned off through CEC (for some reason it only implements turning on, not off), but it has a serial port that can control everything
2017-10-08T21:16:43 < zyp> so I wrote some shit to hook that up to mqtt too
2017-10-08T21:17:37 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/ZX145
2017-10-08T21:24:49 < upgrdman> with my tv i went full retard and made an arduino-based IR transceiver for controlling it
2017-10-08T21:25:57 < zyp> well, I have two way comms now
2017-10-08T21:26:13 < zyp> tv/state updates when tv is turned on/off through external sources
2017-10-08T21:30:24 < Steffanx> cool :)
2017-10-08T21:36:19 < upgrdman> lol  https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/752bt2/wcgw_being_ducttaped_against_a_door/
2017-10-08T21:41:38 < upgrdman> found Rob235's drone   https://i.imgur.com/hATh0pm.gifv
2017-10-08T22:13:17 < aandrew> I wonder if that's what happened to MH370
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2017-10-08T23:50:35 < Rob235> shhh, dont tell anyone
2017-10-08T23:51:47 < Rob235> heh, we actually did stick my short friend to the wall with duct tape in college
2017-10-08T23:55:17 < kakimir> http://tonnerre.soup.io/post/242789154/GNU-A-new-fragrance-by-RMS
2017-10-08T23:55:32 < kakimir> anyone seen RMS irl?
2017-10-08T23:55:37 < kakimir> or in ircs even?
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2017-10-09T00:11:57 < tpw_rules> i watched that video
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2017-10-09T00:40:17 < PaulFertser> kakimir: I've seen him live, twice even.
2017-10-09T00:44:16 < kakimir> how?
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2017-10-09T01:31:36 < jadew> "Exclusive rights were granted to Park Tool for the use of the color blue in five categories, including bicycle hand tools, measuring equipment, pumps, cleaning equipment and repair stands."
2017-10-09T01:32:36 < jadew> a bike related company gets a trademark for blue for measuring equipment...
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2017-10-09T05:54:36 < upgrdman> what's everyone favorite gui toolkit for cpp?
2017-10-09T05:54:47 < upgrdman> *cross-platform gui toolkit
2017-10-09T05:55:13 < tpw_rules> python.exe?
2017-10-09T05:55:26 < tpw_rules> i'd say Qt honestly
2017-10-09T05:55:29 < tpw_rules> i've worked with it in python and it's decent
2017-10-09T05:56:40 < upgrdman> <kakimir> anyone seen RMS irl?
2017-10-09T05:56:50 < upgrdman> kakimir, on the left: http://i.imgur.com/RAGPWm8.jpg
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2017-10-09T08:13:02 <@englishman> aandrew: happy 🦃
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2017-10-09T09:47:10 < qyx> upgQt & ypthon
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2017-10-09T10:12:58 < PaulFertser> kakimir: he came to the moscow state university to give his regular free software propaganda lecture, everyone was free to attend.
2017-10-09T10:14:48 < jadew> stallman?
2017-10-09T10:15:22 < stvn> richard rms stallman
2017-10-09T10:16:00 < jadew> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/695/011/6a4.png
2017-10-09T10:20:30 < jadew> ffs.. I'm reading an article that spews propaganda about how open source should only mean one thing
2017-10-09T10:20:35 < jadew> and that OSI came up with that name
2017-10-09T10:20:41 < jadew> and they cite this: " Needless to say, it was not our idea. Check it out, Google cannot find any mention of “open source” before 1998. That is because, by far, the most common way to refer to “open source” before 1998 was “free software”."
2017-10-09T10:20:56 < jadew> google was founded in 98...
2017-10-09T10:21:43 < jadew> they actually link to a graph with what it had indexed and guess what, it starts in 98
2017-10-09T10:22:41 < stvn> RMS, an insatiable scat-fiend
2017-10-09T10:24:16 < zyp> *yawn*
2017-10-09T10:26:55 < stvn> o/
2017-10-09T10:27:08 < PaulFertser> jadew: doesn't google index pages that are available on the internet no matter when they came live?
2017-10-09T10:27:20 < jadew> how would it know tho?
2017-10-09T10:27:26 < jadew> (when they came live)
2017-10-09T10:27:29 < PaulFertser> jadew: also, do not you agree that consistent terminology is important for proper reasoning?
2017-10-09T10:27:46 < PaulFertser> jadew: web spiders etc, indexing everything that has external links.
2017-10-09T10:28:11 < jadew> I do, but I don't agree to some non elected foundation to decide what the meaning of something already in use should be
2017-10-09T10:28:17 < ohsix> sup
2017-10-09T10:28:40 < ohsix> spent half the day finding a problem from something someone 'fixed' hehe
2017-10-09T10:28:41 < PaulFertser> jadew: well, regarding open source, isn't it pretty clear? OSI came up with the definition, and FSF/RMS do not argue about that.
2017-10-09T10:28:50 < jadew> PaulFertser, they want to hijack the "open source" term to force it to mean a lot more than it already means
2017-10-09T10:29:10 < ohsix> .
2017-10-09T10:29:21 < ohsix> oh boy
2017-10-09T10:29:24 < PaulFertser> jadew: no, fsf doesn't want the "open source" term, not at all. They say "we are not using this word combination and we advice you not to use it".
2017-10-09T10:29:26 < jadew> yes, but neither OSI nor RMS get to tell the world what open source means
2017-10-09T10:29:30 < jadew> they both have an agenda
2017-10-09T10:29:36 < ohsix> rms gets to
2017-10-09T10:29:38 < jadew> and not everything fits their agenda
2017-10-09T10:29:43 < ohsix> because he coined the concept
2017-10-09T10:29:53 < ohsix> this is like arguing the dictionary is proscriptive
2017-10-09T10:29:54 < jadew> he did not
2017-10-09T10:30:01 < PaulFertser> jadew: regarding open source, fsf doesn't argue the meaning and doesn't try to use it at all anyhow.
2017-10-09T10:30:09 < jadew> "open source" was in use way before it became a thing
2017-10-09T10:30:19 < stvn> ty
2017-10-09T10:30:23 < jadew> PaulFertser, that's good to know
2017-10-09T10:30:35 < ohsix> to mean at&t couldn't sell an os so it was de-facto available? lollololol
2017-10-09T10:30:39 < PaulFertser> jadew: they claim the "free/libre software" though, that I can admit
2017-10-09T10:30:52 < jadew> but there's a clear push towards "you can't say your software is opensource if you don't also give us all the rights to it"
2017-10-09T10:31:01 < jadew> which is something the OSI came up with and it's not true
2017-10-09T10:31:13 < jadew> I'm oposed to this redefinition
2017-10-09T10:31:21 < ohsix> you don't get 'all rights', and you can't give them to people in most countries either
2017-10-09T10:31:31 < jadew> ohsix, you know what I mean
2017-10-09T10:31:39 < ohsix> you get some rights that you get to pass on
2017-10-09T10:31:40 < PaulFertser> jadew: that's certainly technically incorrect. All the widespread "open source" and "free software" licenses are based on copyright law, and do not require anybody to waive their copyright rights, no.
2017-10-09T10:31:55 < jadew> come on... don't nitpick
2017-10-09T10:32:03 < jadew> it's about the right to do whatever you please with it
2017-10-09T10:32:13 < ohsix> wat, no it isn't
2017-10-09T10:32:15 < jadew> as in, make it your own
2017-10-09T10:32:31 < ohsix> and by extension, not being able to give up all rights means you can't do whatever you want with it
2017-10-09T10:32:34 < jadew> if you can't make it your own, somehow it's not open source anymore, even if the sources are available
2017-10-09T10:32:47 < PaulFertser> Well, MIT/BSD licence is as about as permissive as it gets, and it fits both FSF's "free software" definition and OSI's "open source".
2017-10-09T10:32:49 < qyx> you mean to steal it
2017-10-09T10:32:53 < jadew> ohsix, please, don't pretend you don't understand what I'm saying, I know what the GPL says
2017-10-09T10:33:08 < PaulFertser> And there's "public domain" if you really want to give away all your rights.
2017-10-09T10:33:13 < ohsix> are you even talking about the gpl?
2017-10-09T10:33:32 < ohsix> when i said rms coined the term i wasn't talking about the gpl, but what happened at mit with mits / at&t
2017-10-09T10:33:39 < jadew> PaulFertser, my problem is not with the permissive ones, my problem is that there are zealots out there that say you can't market your code as open source if they can't modify it
2017-10-09T10:33:43 < jadew> (as an example)
2017-10-09T10:33:54 < ohsix> eh
2017-10-09T10:34:12 < ohsix> even using the term 'market your code as open source' is more cynical than this conversation can support
2017-10-09T10:34:15 < jadew> this is a direct result of the OSI trying to hijack the term
2017-10-09T10:34:40 < jadew> ohsix, code used to be given as open source before too
2017-10-09T10:34:42 < ohsix> osi tries to have a robust definition of several terms, and the rights they convey; including artistic licenses and shit for things that aren't code
2017-10-09T10:34:45 < jadew> sometimes just as documentation
2017-10-09T10:34:52 < PaulFertser> jadew: well, most of the world uses "open source" to mean a certain thing (OSI definition). If one uses it in a different way, that's confusing I think.
2017-10-09T10:34:59 < ohsix> code that was given as documentation doesn't mean it is open or that you can even read it
2017-10-09T10:35:01 < jadew> PaulFertser, that is not true
2017-10-09T10:35:04 < jadew> and it never was
2017-10-09T10:35:17 < PaulFertser> jadew: do we have a way to verify either claim?
2017-10-09T10:35:20 < jadew> the OSI definition is just being pushed as propaganda in the linux circles
2017-10-09T10:35:30 < PaulFertser> (I admit I can't come up with a method right away)
2017-10-09T10:35:30 < ohsix> if PaulFertser uses it that way, i'll agree with him and make that detour moot, since that's mostly how i use the term
2017-10-09T10:35:38 < jadew> PaulFertser, hold on a sec
2017-10-09T10:36:05 < ohsix> if you want a real mind fuck over licensing and modern bullshit, what does 'distribution' mean when you silo the code and only offer it as a service
2017-10-09T10:36:18 < jadew> 1993 document by NASA: “National security and national competitiveness: Open source solutions; NASA requirements and capabilities”
2017-10-09T10:36:32 < ohsix> that's a bit late to the party
2017-10-09T10:36:37 < PaulFertser> jadew: the point is about how the majority of people understand it now, not about the etymology.
2017-10-09T10:36:45 < ohsix> and is going to be tangled up with what public funding & publishing is
2017-10-09T10:37:06 < PaulFertser> Because we're talking about using words in a way to avoid confusion.
2017-10-09T10:37:12 < jadew> PaulFertser, I don't think most people understand it like that
2017-10-09T10:37:20 < jadew> I think it's just a hijack of the term
2017-10-09T10:37:32 < PaulFertser> jadew: ok, but do we have a way to verify this?
2017-10-09T10:37:34 < jadew> open source doesn't mean open source + a bunch of rights we're giving you
2017-10-09T10:37:57 < jadew> yes, I'm just telling you that I don't understand it like that
2017-10-09T10:38:17 < PaulFertser> Well, I personally do not pay attention to the "open source" term, I do not like it, I find it ambigous and confusing, so I just don't care when someone marks something like that.
2017-10-09T10:38:33 < jadew> and there are lot of companies out there that are releasing open source shit and they get to deal with zealots that complain that's not open source is supposed to mean
2017-10-09T10:38:44 < jadew> so it's clear that those companies have a different view about what open source is
2017-10-09T10:38:49 < jadew> (which is one that I share)
2017-10-09T10:38:57 < ohsix> just as an act of score keeping, 2 vs. 1
2017-10-09T10:38:57 < jadew> open source means you can see the source
2017-10-09T10:39:04 < ohsix> that isn't what it means
2017-10-09T10:39:11 < ohsix> open source means you can use the source
2017-10-09T10:39:14 < jadew> no
2017-10-09T10:39:16 < ohsix> yea
2017-10-09T10:39:20 < PaulFertser> jadew: zealots usually follow the FSF and so they do not care about "open source".
2017-10-09T10:39:21 < jadew> that's what you'd like it to mean
2017-10-09T10:39:26 < ohsix> microsoft has a shared source license, you can read about all the debate around that
2017-10-09T10:40:09 < ohsix> there are lots of licenses where you can view the source, many constrain you from even using what you might infer from it
2017-10-09T10:40:30 < jadew> yeah, I'd call that open source
2017-10-09T10:40:31 < ohsix> pdb's from microsofts symbol servers have some pretty wacky shit in them, and you can see a lot of code
2017-10-09T10:40:36 < jadew> then there's the license that tells you what you can do with it
2017-10-09T10:40:44 < ohsix> which is nothing
2017-10-09T10:41:06 < ohsix> and the rights do not extend past microsoft and you in a relationship with microsoft
2017-10-09T10:41:16 < jadew> ohsix, if I release some code with no license to it
2017-10-09T10:41:20 < jadew> how do you call it?
2017-10-09T10:41:23 < PaulFertser> jadew: what's your point? Real RMS zealots do not care about the "open source" term, why bother then?
2017-10-09T10:41:24 < jadew> I mean, a software + source
2017-10-09T10:41:38 < jadew> PaulFertser, there are "open source" zealots
2017-10-09T10:41:41 < ohsix> there are patent pacts and other shit that constrain you for lots of important aspects of what you may infer from having seen the code
2017-10-09T10:41:49 < PaulFertser> jadew: they're few and not furious
2017-10-09T10:42:04 < PaulFertser> Because OSI was all about business, not about religion/morals/etc.
2017-10-09T10:42:10 < jadew> sure they are, don't you remember the shit about the opensource logo?
2017-10-09T10:42:11 < zyp> why are you arguing terms at all
2017-10-09T10:42:21 < jadew> how it shouldn't be used on hardware that's not open enough?
2017-10-09T10:42:33 < ohsix> jadew: you can't release some code with 'no license', unless it is a license that says there is no license, and without some proscribed rights i dunno if you'd even be able to look at it
2017-10-09T10:42:35  * stvn pulls another cone
2017-10-09T10:42:35 < PaulFertser> jadew: if you just release source without explicit licensing then I'd guess that would be about the same as you publish it in a book, i.e. default copyright restrictions apply.
2017-10-09T10:42:55 < jadew> ohsix, of course you can, it's called that the code is unlicensed
2017-10-09T10:42:57 < jadew> meaning you can't use it
2017-10-09T10:43:03 < ohsix> OSHW is something completely orthogonal to this stuff
2017-10-09T10:43:04 < jadew> you can read it, because it's open
2017-10-09T10:43:07 < jadew> but you can't use it
2017-10-09T10:43:21 < ohsix> no, there's no implied license to anything in it
2017-10-09T10:43:24 < jadew> PaulFertser, exactly
2017-10-09T10:43:30 < jadew> ohsix, yes there is
2017-10-09T10:43:45 < PaulFertser> jadew: I never argued "open source" is not a confusing term :)
2017-10-09T10:43:51 < jadew> you can't use code that doesn't have a license, it basically means all restrictions apply
2017-10-09T10:43:53 < ohsix> you could read it like you might something scribbled on the sidewalk, and it could be implicitly trademarked, but as intellectual property you can't really read it as a program necessarily
2017-10-09T10:44:01 < ohsix> reading is a use
2017-10-09T10:44:04 < stvn> A U T I S M
2017-10-09T10:44:05 < stvn> A U T I S M
2017-10-09T10:44:08 < stvn> A U T I S M
2017-10-09T10:44:13 < jadew> ohsix, nobody can prove you read it
2017-10-09T10:44:13 < stvn> (and so on)
2017-10-09T10:44:21 < ohsix> it's not about proof
2017-10-09T10:44:23 < jadew> and copyright law applies for sharing
2017-10-09T10:44:33 < ohsix> that also excuses murder if nobody can prove you did a murder
2017-10-09T10:44:57 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inB4esNoNTo
2017-10-09T10:45:21 < ohsix> one thing i don't get
2017-10-09T10:45:24 < zyp> this discussion is getting dumber and dumber
2017-10-09T10:45:30 < zyp> when is hitler getting mentioned?
2017-10-09T10:45:38 < stvn> not until senpai
2017-10-09T10:45:39 < jadew> hitler!
2017-10-09T10:45:44 < stvn> anyway STM32
2017-10-09T10:45:52 < ohsix> my impression is that you were more laid back than this, and i dunno what the big deal is, if you're sincere or bored
2017-10-09T10:45:56 < PaulFertser> ohsix: trademarking is orthogonal to copyright law
2017-10-09T10:46:21 < ohsix> i meant copyrighted, but it just is in that case; misspoke
2017-10-09T10:46:57 < jadew> ohsix, I don't like it when people I don't like are trying to redefine words I do like
2017-10-09T10:47:22 < stvn> for those of you playing along at home https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality
2017-10-09T10:47:23 < ohsix> i'm not a lawyer and i think talking about this stuff in general is bullshit
2017-10-09T10:47:24 < zyp> jadew, so you've got the sole right to define words?
2017-10-09T10:47:29 < jadew> and the reason I don't like those people is because they're just leaches that want your code
2017-10-09T10:47:53 < ohsix> that's kind of a bad faith approach to the whole thing
2017-10-09T10:47:57 < jadew> zyp, no, but I don't want the definition changed by force (which is what they're doing by shaming you and shit)
2017-10-09T10:48:22 < ohsix> you offer it in a sense of participation, to work with whomever may find it useful, more useful and hopefully in new and interesting directions that were not primary uses when you wrote it
2017-10-09T10:48:45 < ohsix> a dictionary is not a suicide pact
2017-10-09T10:48:52 < jadew> ohsix, yes, but some people might not want to do that and they might have other reasons for offering the code
2017-10-09T10:49:19 < jadew> that doesn't mean you should be able to force them not to say that whatever they have is open source
2017-10-09T10:49:32 < stvn> why not create a open-dong license
2017-10-09T10:49:43 < ohsix> do you have an example where it is not in bad faith to say that people don't 'want' it and aren't leeches if you offer it? the mere possibility of being able to do something unattributed is why i dont' like 3 clause bsd like licenses
2017-10-09T10:49:52 < PaulFertser> stvn: share some OSHW project please
2017-10-09T10:50:08 < stvn> it's possible
2017-10-09T10:50:11 < stvn> what would you like
2017-10-09T10:50:40 < ohsix> i'm also not willing to tell someone who chooses the 'throw over the wall' licenses to use something else. they may not be looking for the participation at all
2017-10-09T10:50:51 < ohsix> shitting out hacks is a valid and cool thing that happens
2017-10-09T10:51:15 < PaulFertser> stvn: an intellegent vaporiser to boost dongs' productivity.
2017-10-09T10:51:36 < stvn> hmmm
2017-10-09T10:51:37 < ohsix> dont' they have foggers now that just fill an entire space to a certain density
2017-10-09T10:51:40 < stvn> does he even vape?
2017-10-09T10:51:52 < PaulFertser> How would he survive otherwise?
2017-10-09T10:52:07 < ohsix> he has kids and doesn't act like he does on the internet with his family
2017-10-09T10:52:25 < stvn> lol
2017-10-09T10:52:31 < stvn> i don't fucken know
2017-10-09T10:52:32 < jadew> who has kids?
2017-10-09T10:52:51 < stvn> not me
2017-10-09T10:52:58 < stvn> afaik
2017-10-09T10:53:00 < PaulFertser> Having kids and doing weed is orthogonal
2017-10-09T10:53:07 < ohsix> i wish
2017-10-09T10:53:10 < stvn> lol
2017-10-09T10:53:16 < stvn> apparently not in australia
2017-10-09T10:53:26 < ohsix> but that's confusing circumstance
2017-10-09T10:53:54 < ohsix> i forget the word; where it does not necessarily follow that weed -> kids, when kids -> weed is also likely
2017-10-09T10:53:55 < PaulFertser> stvn: why? The kids stealing all the weed before you have a chance to consume it?
2017-10-09T10:54:19 < ohsix> do you guys know who tim hunkin is
2017-10-09T10:55:26 < PaulFertser> ohsix: https://www.xkcd.com/552/
2017-10-09T10:57:11 < ohsix> nice
2017-10-09T10:57:21 < ohsix> yea i suppose that fits close enough
2017-10-09T10:57:47 < ohsix> there's also a thing about post-facto reasoning
2017-10-09T10:58:21 < ohsix> newayz, tim hunkin did the secret life of machines & was formative, he followed me on twatter for a thing i'm doing
2017-10-09T10:58:57 < stvn> lol PaulFertser
2017-10-09T10:59:02 < ohsix> it's easy to be cool when nobody i ever talk to off twitter knows shit about it but i'm excite
2017-10-09T11:01:04 < ohsix> it's dumb but it might also end up as side loot ! :D
2017-10-09T11:01:12 < qyx> regarding stm32, was anyone able to get <5 LSB ADC accuracy when sampling at >= 2msps?
2017-10-09T11:01:49 < ohsix> which part?
2017-10-09T11:01:56 < qyx> F303
2017-10-09T11:02:05 < qyx> driving it with a fast buffer opamp
2017-10-09T11:02:09 < qyx> reservoir cap included
2017-10-09T11:02:13 < qyx> on the input
2017-10-09T11:02:24 < qyx> vref is a 2.5V external reference
2017-10-09T11:02:55 < qyx> all dig power inputs have 1u and 100n caps, all analol have 1u, 100n, 10n caps
2017-10-09T11:02:56 < ohsix> i wouldn't even have guessed it was that bad (?) something to read about! :p
2017-10-09T11:04:17 < ohsix> configured for differential?
2017-10-09T11:04:29 < ohsix> random ass guess that would divide something by two
2017-10-09T11:05:02 < qyx> no, single ended
2017-10-09T11:05:13 < qyx> there is just a random noise
2017-10-09T11:05:26 < qyx> but my scope is dump enough so I am not able to find the source
2017-10-09T11:05:28 < jadew> qyx, is the analog rail clean?
2017-10-09T11:06:17 < qyx> seems so, ncp700b ultra low noise vreg, I hope properly used according to the ds
2017-10-09T11:06:40 < jadew> yeah, but you could get noise from the digital section
2017-10-09T11:06:48 < jadew> enough to account for a couple of LSBs
2017-10-09T11:06:52 < ohsix> is there an antialiasing filter?
2017-10-09T11:06:56 < jadew> then there's the PSRR of the opamp
2017-10-09T11:07:00 < qyx> ohsix: yes
2017-10-09T11:07:12 < qyx> but only a single pole at 300K
2017-10-09T11:08:04 < ohsix> is the noise still there if you pin it to gnd/vcc?
2017-10-09T11:08:10 < ohsix> or just with a resistor divider
2017-10-09T11:09:11 < ohsix> what about reading from the wrong pin, but there is enough coupling already that it looks like there's lots of noise
2017-10-09T11:09:12 < qyx> it is ac terminated to gnd (47R and 1u in series)
2017-10-09T11:09:40 < qyx> mhm, the actual data can come in, reading from the right pin
2017-10-09T11:09:40 < ohsix> i'd just be poking around with probes to see if it is any of the external parts
2017-10-09T11:10:09 < jadew> qyx, is the power supply clean? (did you check it?)
2017-10-09T11:10:10 < qyx> the output is like
2017-10-09T11:10:13 < qyx> buffer=078107800781077f0781078107810780077f077e077f077f077f077f077f077f077f077f
2017-10-09T11:10:14 < jadew> that's what you should check first
2017-10-09T11:10:16 < qyx> (16bit hex)
2017-10-09T11:10:24 < ohsix> i've made the mistake of reading the wrong pin, but the trace/wire i was reading from ran perpendicular for long enough to couple junk
2017-10-09T11:10:56 < qyx> 77e to 781 in this case
2017-10-09T11:12:03 < qyx> acually the digital supply is smps
2017-10-09T11:12:52 < ohsix> nice, 303 has simultaneous sample and hold
2017-10-09T11:13:15 < qyx> yes, I will use that
2017-10-09T11:13:46 < qyx> I have a tcxo with gpsdo to sample at a precise time
2017-10-09T11:13:52 < qyx> 4 channels
2017-10-09T11:15:43 < jadew> qyx, but did you check the supply? right at the input of the MCU
2017-10-09T11:15:54 < jadew> if it's garbage (and it might be) you can't expect the output to be any different
2017-10-09T11:16:53 < stvn> ty
2017-10-09T11:18:07 < qyx> jadew: yes, vdda and vref seem clean as my scope can tell, vdd has some 5mV ripple
2017-10-09T11:20:53 < ohsix> sampling same channel & same time with multiple adcs?
2017-10-09T11:22:25 < jadew> qyx, take a long list of consecutive samples and plot them
2017-10-09T11:22:37 < jadew> you might get some clue about what's happening from that
2017-10-09T11:23:08 < jadew> perform an FFT over them for extra insight
2017-10-09T11:23:32 < ohsix> upgrdmans serial plotter thing can do histogram and fft
2017-10-09T11:23:32 < jadew> if it matches your SMPS's frequency, you know what it is
2017-10-09T11:24:36 < qyx> smps freq is 2.2MHz, sampling freq is 2MHz
2017-10-09T11:24:40 < qyx> plotting in progress
2017-10-09T11:28:05 < qyx> https://i.imgur.com/7GDoFKX.png
2017-10-09T11:28:08 < qyx> :S
2017-10-09T11:28:34 < jadew> seems to be a pattern there
2017-10-09T11:29:48 < jadew> fft?
2017-10-09T11:30:53 < qyx> https://i.imgur.com/uA3CY41.png
2017-10-09T11:31:12 < qyx> 1MHz wide
2017-10-09T11:31:25 < qyx> looks broadband
2017-10-09T11:32:32 < jadew> is that in Hz?
2017-10-09T11:33:24 < qyx> no, 4096 samples fft'd
2017-10-09T11:33:28 < qyx> 2048 is 1MHz
2017-10-09T11:34:41 < jadew> so that first tone is at 50 kHz?
2017-10-09T11:35:02 < jadew> what's your SMPS's switching frequency?
2017-10-09T11:35:29 < jadew> there's that one that seems to have a bunch of harmonics
2017-10-09T11:35:41 < qyx> 2.2MHz
2017-10-09T11:35:45 < qyx> its a lm3671mf
2017-10-09T11:35:51 < jadew> oh, right, you said that
2017-10-09T11:36:03 < qyx> wait, measuring the freq
2017-10-09T11:38:09 < jadew> sorry, it would be around 25 kHz
2017-10-09T11:38:15 < qyx> the fist peak is at 23kHz, second ~44kHz, 73kHz, 100kHz
2017-10-09T11:39:13 < jadew> there's a quick way to rule out the SMPS
2017-10-09T11:39:15 < qyx> I'll go and find some battery to power it
2017-10-09T11:39:19 < jadew> that
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2017-10-09T13:09:23 < karlp> jadew: you know fluke owns yellow too right?
2017-10-09T13:09:43 < jadew> karlp, yeah
2017-10-09T13:10:03 < jadew> but at least I've heard of fluke
2017-10-09T13:17:41 < karlp> so what?
2017-10-09T13:19:44 < jadew> you're right
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2017-10-09T14:02:48 < jadew> any ideas on how much it costs to CNC a 4x4x2 cm chunk of aluminum? in maybe 10 quantity?
2017-10-09T14:05:59 < sync> that depends on what features you want to be milled into it
2017-10-09T14:06:03 < qyx> it was like 50-100€, but it highly depends on the shape
2017-10-09T14:06:18 < jadew> qyx, for a single piece?
2017-10-09T14:06:34 < qyx> yes
2017-10-09T14:06:39 < jadew> damn
2017-10-09T14:06:49 < qyx> probably the lowest cost piece I have seen in our work was 12€ per piece
2017-10-09T14:06:57 < jadew> sync, it wouldn't be much, a hollob block with stands for a PCB + screw holes
2017-10-09T14:07:02 < qyx> and that was about 50 very simple pieces
2017-10-09T14:07:15 < fest> jadew: if it can be milled on a 3 axis machine, it can be cheaper
2017-10-09T14:07:15 < jadew> *hollow
2017-10-09T14:07:27 < jadew> fest, it can
2017-10-09T14:07:39 < sync> does it need multiple setups?
2017-10-09T14:07:48 < jadew> sync, I don't know what a setup is
2017-10-09T14:08:10 < jadew> multiple bits?
2017-10-09T14:08:15 < karlp> can you really not find an existing aluminium case you can design for instead of custom casing?
2017-10-09T14:08:16 < qyx> that was a 30x30x30mm RF filter aluminium box, single setup
2017-10-09T14:08:30 < jadew> karlp, I've been looking for about a year
2017-10-09T14:08:35 < jadew> found some, but they're expensive
2017-10-09T14:08:36 < qyx> jadew: it depends if it needs to be rotated during milling
2017-10-09T14:09:02 < jadew> qyx, the cheap one?
2017-10-09T14:09:05 < karlp> are you perhaps just being excessively rigid in what you're looking for? it's quite allowable to make your pcb to fit a case, instead of the other way round sometimes
2017-10-09T14:09:28 < jadew> karlp, no, I just can't find suitable cases
2017-10-09T14:09:38 < jadew> this is also for a RF project
2017-10-09T14:09:52 < qyx> like those minicircuits cubes?
2017-10-09T14:09:55 < jadew> yeah
2017-10-09T14:09:58 < jadew> those would be perfect
2017-10-09T14:09:59 < qyx> we did the same
2017-10-09T14:10:09 < qyx> it was around 12€ for a box
2017-10-09T14:10:16 < jadew> that's really good price
2017-10-09T14:10:20 < jadew> in what qty?
2017-10-09T14:10:23 < qyx> but 50 pieces
2017-10-09T14:10:30 < qyx> *50 boxes
2017-10-09T14:10:31 < qyx> around
2017-10-09T14:10:42 < qyx> and the box consists of two pieces
2017-10-09T14:11:00 < jadew> and the cover was CNCed too?
2017-10-09T14:11:03 < qyx> yes
2017-10-09T14:11:07 < jadew> and drilled?
2017-10-09T14:11:45 < jadew> I'd get 50 pcs for that price
2017-10-09T14:11:56 < karlp> "I want special custom magic, but I don't want to pay for special custom magic"
2017-10-09T14:11:58 < qyx> try to quote some local cncers
2017-10-09T14:12:25 < jadew> karlp, I don't really want custom magic, but what fits seems to be overly expensive
2017-10-09T14:12:32 < qyx> idk now who was manufacturing this, it was some time ago and I don't have access to it now
2017-10-09T14:12:51 < qyx> it was a .sk company
2017-10-09T14:13:03 < jadew> I'll see what local companies do this
2017-10-09T14:13:22 < jadew> at least now I'm not afraid to ask :)
2017-10-09T14:18:58 < qyx> http://www.gquipment.com/img/p/3/3/33-thickbox_default.jpg
2017-10-09T14:19:00 < qyx> looks similar
2017-10-09T14:19:42 < jadew> that's what I want
2017-10-09T14:21:03 < sync> that will require multiple setups
2017-10-09T14:21:06 < sync> and be more expensive
2017-10-09T14:21:30 < qyx> no, it can be made with two parts, each is a single setup
2017-10-09T14:21:55 < qyx> base from a ~20mm thick plate, cover from a ~5mm thick one
2017-10-09T14:22:08 < sync> how will you drill around a corner on a 3 axis?
2017-10-09T14:22:19 < jadew> found a CNC shop here that takes 30 euro/hour - sounds like a good price, no?
2017-10-09T14:22:29 < qyx> we used a pcb-edge connector with a rectangular shape
2017-10-09T14:22:38 < qyx> not a circular one
2017-10-09T14:22:47 < sync> 30€/h is cheap
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2017-10-09T14:22:59 < qyx> so it was milled from the cover side only
2017-10-09T14:23:38 < jadew> then I'll start on the design
2017-10-09T14:23:57 < jadew> qyx, you had rectangular SMAs?
2017-10-09T14:24:06 < qyx> yes, pcb-edge
2017-10-09T14:24:17 < jadew> interesting
2017-10-09T14:24:28 < jadew> I think the minicircuits ones are screwable
2017-10-09T14:24:36 < qyx> iirc yes
2017-10-09T14:24:43 < jadew> the HP ones (used in those manual attenuators) are also screwable
2017-10-09T14:24:49 < qyx> but this setup allowe us to pull out the pcb for rework
2017-10-09T14:24:59 < qyx> with conenctors
2017-10-09T14:25:32 < jadew> interesting
2017-10-09T14:27:23 < jadew> chamfering doesn't need tilting the box, right?
2017-10-09T14:28:14 < emeryth> jadew: ordering all the way from china may seem silly, but my friend tried them and was pleased with the service, price and results https://www.smart-prototyping.com/Prototyping-Services/Mechanical-Prototyping/CNC-Milling.html
2017-10-09T14:28:59 < jadew> emeryth, thanks, I'll check them out
2017-10-09T14:34:40 < jpa-> jadew: fictiv.com seems interesting also, but haven't tried it
2017-10-09T14:34:43 < jadew> any ideas on what's the search term for those DC connecotrs? http://www.gquipment.com/img/p/3/1/31-thickbox_default.jpg
2017-10-09T14:34:56 < jadew> jpa-, thanks, I'll check them out
2017-10-09T14:35:03 < jpa-> probably not very cheap though
2017-10-09T14:35:52 < jadew> yeah, and they're in the US
2017-10-09T14:36:57 < jadew> found it, turret terminal
2017-10-09T14:45:17 < karlp> yegh, someone explicitly printf'ing \r\n or \n based on platform
2017-10-09T14:46:19 < jadew> depends on what you're doing, I usually just go with \n for console stuff
2017-10-09T14:46:26 < jadew> windows knows what to do
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2017-10-09T14:46:35 < karlp> it's all you're meant to do, exactly, systems know what to do after that.
2017-10-09T14:47:25 < Rob235> nice, chrome has a web server extension.  looks like testing web workers wont be such a pain
2017-10-09T14:47:36 < jpa-> i often have to printf \r\n to files in embedded systems, so that the files are easy to use on windows
2017-10-09T14:48:32 < Steffanx> At least you write \r\n and not \n\r
2017-10-09T14:48:54 < jpa-> yeah, no need to support 90s classic mac os
2017-10-09T14:49:12 < Steffanx> my autism cant deal with it when i see a colleague use \n\r
2017-10-09T14:49:26 < jadew> lol
2017-10-09T14:49:48 < jadew> I couldn't deal with it either, even tho it should have the same effect :)
2017-10-09T14:50:00 < Steffanx> jpa- you can also force the use to open it with a proper editor. Even wordpad does \n  i believe.
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2017-10-09T14:50:23 < Steffanx> *user
2017-10-09T14:51:00 < karlp> yeah, but if notepad doesn't, it doesn't matter if wordpad does
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2017-10-09T16:18:33 < tomeaton17> Any ideas why https://hastebin.com/evixusefux.cpp this code for uart transmit on F042F6 goes straight to error handler? Before karlp asks this is a new chip and unrelated to the 1ms char delay issue :p
2017-10-09T16:24:12 < Rob235> ugh, web worker is almost done
2017-10-09T16:26:25 <@englishman> what does your call stack look like when stepping thru?
2017-10-09T16:30:49 < tomeaton17> Goes straight from main function to error handler
2017-10-09T16:34:32 < Steffanx> but where in main is it called?
2017-10-09T16:34:37 < ReadErr> sure u are using it right?
2017-10-09T16:35:36 < tomeaton17> Oh right, its called from the initalisation function. I thought it was called from the transmit but no.
2017-10-09T16:35:47 < tomeaton17> Line 59
2017-10-09T16:36:08 < tomeaton17> ReadErr: I don't think I am using it right thats why its not working :p
2017-10-09T16:36:27 < ReadErr> the debugger
2017-10-09T16:36:41 < tomeaton17> Oh right in what way?
2017-10-09T16:36:54 < Steffanx> did you step into HAL_UART_Init to see why it doesnt return what you expect?
2017-10-09T16:37:21 < ReadErr> single step all the way from the start of needbe
2017-10-09T16:37:22 < tomeaton17> No I will do that now
2017-10-09T16:47:07 < tomeaton17> I don't think I can step into the function with GDB
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2017-10-09T16:54:56 < karlp> is there some 74hc series that takes say 3 address pins, and sets 8 outputs to the binary value?  not a selector/demuxer that jsut turns on a single pin?
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2017-10-09T16:56:38 < tomeaton17> Ok I got the debug log https://hastebin.com/xopohaniyu.coffeescript but I couldn't find anywhere in there which didn't return HAL_OK.
2017-10-09T16:57:57 < karlp> just use "run"
2017-10-09T16:59:58 < tomeaton17> ok
2017-10-09T17:01:40 < tomeaton17> The only return statements there return HAL_Ok
2017-10-09T17:01:54 < ReadErr> ur missing a bunch
2017-10-09T17:02:22 < karlp> what's the error anyway?
2017-10-09T17:02:30 < karlp> run vecstate from the zypsnips gdb helpers
2017-10-09T17:02:51 < ReadErr> turn off optimizations maybe too?
2017-10-09T17:05:52 < tomeaton17> The error is that HAL_UART_Init doesnt return HAL_OK.
2017-10-09T17:06:06 < tomeaton17> I don't think it will fit if I turn off optimisations
2017-10-09T17:06:45 < ReadErr> lol r u kidding me?
2017-10-09T17:07:02 < ReadErr> barely anyting there
2017-10-09T17:10:25 < tomeaton17> Yes if I I don't use -Os it doesnt fit
2017-10-09T17:11:00 < tomeaton17> But I removed the sections flags and it was still the same
2017-10-09T17:11:50 <@englishman> karlp: in what you're describing, doesnt input = output...
2017-10-09T17:12:45 < tomeaton17> I think its basically a binary to denary convertor?
2017-10-09T17:13:39 <@englishman> with 3 input lines they would still be the same...
2017-10-09T17:14:09 <@englishman> if by denary you mean BCD
2017-10-09T17:15:06 < tomeaton17> I think it would work if 0 was symbolised by all lines off? then the lines would be 1 2 4
2017-10-09T17:18:19 < Thorn> 138?
2017-10-09T17:21:15 < tomeaton17> How do you use that vecstate function?
2017-10-09T17:21:19 < karlp> englishman: yeah, I realise now my wording was not good there
2017-10-09T17:24:36 < tomeaton17> 2
2017-10-09T17:24:46 < jadew> ... I wrote to analog about some worng data on their site, they wrote back that they can't offer technical support at this time and that I should use the forum
2017-10-09T17:25:02 < jadew> well, that's about as far as I go in trying to point out an error
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2017-10-09T17:28:14 < karlp> hrm, idea was 10 switches over 4 wires to 10 outputs, more than one switch can be actgive at a time.
2017-10-09T17:28:26 < karlp> don't think it's possible with any 74 series or 4000 series stuff.
2017-10-09T17:28:48 < karlp> hc174 will do _priority_ to avoid the multi switches, but that's not quite the same
2017-10-09T17:29:07 < karlp> 2 mcus with spi between just echoing the state of switches to aoutputs would work, but then sw is invovled
2017-10-09T17:31:55 <@englishman> shift register?
2017-10-09T17:32:24 < karlp> gotta find something clock it then, and latch it probably
2017-10-09T17:32:25 < karlp> fuck that.
2017-10-09T17:32:40  * karlp isn't going down a discrete logic design path
2017-10-09T17:32:48 < karlp> should call this guy, see what he really wants
2017-10-09T17:32:56 <@englishman> dono, you are describing a way to get more than 4 bits of data from 4 lines, so some serial communication is assumed
2017-10-09T17:33:18 < karlp> yeah, I know.
2017-10-09T17:33:29 < karlp> I thought at first there was some magic, but I was just not looking at it properly.
2017-10-09T17:33:39 <@englishman> there is magic
2017-10-09T17:33:40 < tomeaton17> karlp: That tool isn't useful for me because I am not getting exceptions
2017-10-09T17:33:42 <@englishman> it is called stm8s003
2017-10-09T17:34:00 < Laurenceb> whats the difference between direct and indirect input capture on F042?
2017-10-09T17:34:05 < karlp> tomeaton17: oh that's right, you have an ErrorHandler that's not a Handler (the names of all the irq handlers)
2017-10-09T17:34:26 < karlp> englishman: attiny25 you mean? so it can be programmed by arduinossss
2017-10-09T17:34:39 <@englishman> hahaha
2017-10-09T17:34:41 < karlp> actually, attinx5 doesn't have enough pins :)
2017-10-09T17:34:44 <@englishman> >attiny 25
2017-10-09T17:34:47 < tomeaton17> yeah
2017-10-09T17:34:50 <@englishman> >14 gpios
2017-10-09T17:35:15 <@englishman> https://i.imgur.com/KLqh5SO.png
2017-10-09T17:35:37 < karlp> is that attiny13 or something, the 6 pin one?
2017-10-09T17:35:40 <@englishman> stm8s master race vs. unwashed attiny masses
2017-10-09T17:35:43 < karlp> damn those stm8s are cheap
2017-10-09T17:35:46 <@englishman> yes
2017-10-09T17:35:52 <@englishman> cheaper than many discrete logic ics
2017-10-09T17:35:55 < sync> yeah
2017-10-09T17:36:01 < tomeaton17> Thats what hal calls the function
2017-10-09T17:36:10 < sync> they are about the cheapest mcu you can get
2017-10-09T17:36:36 <@englishman> no ARM license fees
2017-10-09T17:36:52 < karlp> f030 is only $1.37, and in teh scale of this project, using something I know is far better than saving the $1 on the stm8s
2017-10-09T17:37:44 < qyx> what abtou io expanders
2017-10-09T17:37:58 <@englishman> why not take the opportunity to learn an excellent low cost platform
2017-10-09T17:38:07 <@englishman> steffy did! and he is now a more valuable asset to the world
2017-10-09T17:38:36 <@englishman> STVD + cosmic compiler + st-link = $0 pro dev env
2017-10-09T17:38:37 < karlp> qyx: i2c shits?
2017-10-09T17:38:42 < qyx> there are spi too
2017-10-09T17:38:49 < karlp> still needs the encoder side
2017-10-09T17:38:49 < qyx> I would avoid i2c personally
2017-10-09T17:39:06 < qyx> ah, so you need two sides
2017-10-09T17:39:54 < karlp> eyah, both ends
2017-10-09T17:40:10 < karlp> I suspect the real solution here in this case will be to lay 6 more wires...
2017-10-09T17:40:12 < emeryth> what about remote control encoder/decoder chips
2017-10-09T17:40:58 < Laurenceb> anyone know the difference between input capture direct versus indirect mode on F042?
2017-10-09T17:41:23 < qyx> resistor ladder and a parallel ADC
2017-10-09T17:41:27 < qyx> with just 1 wire
2017-10-09T17:41:35 < karlp> heh
2017-10-09T17:42:52 < karlp> greenpaks!
2017-10-09T17:42:57 < qyx> there is also some LT shit to transfer SPI over a single twosted pair
2017-10-09T17:43:41 < qyx> but thats only 4 lines
2017-10-09T17:43:52 < qyx> and maybe it actually want to see real spi there
2017-10-09T17:46:56 < karlp> http://www.linear.com/product/LTC6820 heh, neat
2017-10-09T17:47:49 < karlp> seems to encode the 4 logic states not real spi
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2017-10-09T17:52:58 < aandrew> englishman: yep happy turkey day to you too
2017-10-09T17:53:46 < Steffanx> wannabee thanksgiving?
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2017-10-09T17:55:15 < aandrew> nah real thanksgiving
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2017-10-09T18:03:26 < Steffanx> nah you stole it from the yankees right?
2017-10-09T18:03:45 < Steffanx> why is it on a different date?
2017-10-09T18:04:49 < aandrew> because canada
2017-10-09T18:04:51 <@englishman> i believe you have it backwrads
2017-10-09T18:06:47 <@englishman> do you really think americans would invent a holiday based around natives living happily and furnishing settlers with gifts
2017-10-09T18:09:47 <@englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSBq8geuJk0
2017-10-09T18:13:16 < Laurenceb> There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.
2017-10-09T18:13:46 < aandrew> fuck I love this book
2017-10-09T18:13:55 < aandrew> I'm supposed to be working but I"m reading Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle again
2017-10-09T18:14:21 < aandrew> https://7chan.org/lit/src/Cat's_Cradle.pdf, chapter 73 makes me LOL every time
2017-10-09T18:14:32 < aandrew> page 93 if you're interested, chapters are super short
2017-10-09T18:15:07 < Steffanx> Are you ok Laurenceb?
2017-10-09T18:15:13 <@englishman> Laurenceb: what is even direct/indirect capture, i dont recall ever reading something like that
2017-10-09T18:15:26 < Laurenceb> englishman: an option in cubemx
2017-10-09T18:15:50  * Laurenceb is trying to use cubemx to port his discovery mems code to his f042 board
2017-10-09T18:15:53 < Laurenceb> funtimes
2017-10-09T18:16:13 < Steffanx> port it to stm8
2017-10-09T18:16:15 < Laurenceb> from clive posts, it seems direct mode is needed for external inputs
2017-10-09T18:16:30 < Laurenceb> but the terminology is only used in cubemx, so much fail
2017-10-09T18:16:47 < Steffanx> Real pros use stm8, like englishman
2017-10-09T18:17:26 <@englishman> and like Steffanx
2017-10-09T18:17:36 < BrainDamage> distract yourself with some doyouknow's tweets: https://twitter.com/messier77_rocks/status/916857875703746560  https://twitter.com/messier77_rocks/status/916809508495724544   https://twitter.com/messier77_rocks/status/916796318756081665
2017-10-09T18:17:44 < Steffanx> Yeah, pro i2c 7-segment driver based on stm8
2017-10-09T18:17:54 < Steffanx> just to make it compatible with some legacy product
2017-10-09T18:18:12 < BrainDamage> https://twitter.com/messier77_rocks/status/914938651603333122
2017-10-09T18:18:32 <@englishman> how do you select indirect capture, it is greyed out
2017-10-09T18:18:50 < Laurenceb> crossmodulated into wiring plasma resonance lines edging their way down into 20 meter band.
2017-10-09T18:18:54 < Laurenceb> saywut
2017-10-09T18:19:03 < Laurenceb> englishman: I dunno lol
2017-10-09T18:19:09 < Laurenceb> just wondered what it did
2017-10-09T18:19:56 < Steffanx> lol Laurenceb has me on ignore and i wasnt even the one that banned him. D
2017-10-09T18:19:57 < Steffanx> :D
2017-10-09T18:20:08 < Laurenceb> no
2017-10-09T18:21:11 <@englishman> if you select direct on one channel you can select indirect on another channel
2017-10-09T18:21:34 <@englishman> so im guessing its some software thing added by hal
2017-10-09T18:21:45 <@englishman> il only bill you a 1/2 hour for this
2017-10-09T18:23:06 < Laurenceb> lel
2017-10-09T18:23:12 < Laurenceb> oh its master/slave stuff
2017-10-09T18:23:25 < Laurenceb> for teh epin hardware ofdm modulators
2017-10-09T18:23:39 < qyx> are you into ofdm again
2017-10-09T18:24:02 <@englishman> he couldnt even get 2psk to work
2017-10-09T18:25:03 < qyx> fuk those cell balancers
2017-10-09T18:25:14 < qyx> englishman you said you don't have any balancer for the lifepo4
2017-10-09T18:25:16 < Laurenceb> lulwut
2017-10-09T18:25:58 < qyx> do you have any real world data yet
2017-10-09T18:26:06 < qyx> of some cells doing kaboom
2017-10-09T18:27:09 < qyx> I am going to put that LTC3300 away
2017-10-09T18:27:24 < qyx> it will save me ~20€ on bom
2017-10-09T18:27:35 < qyx> even more
2017-10-09T18:27:52 < Laurenceb> englishman: muh ofdm wuz done ages ago
2017-10-09T18:28:05 < Laurenceb> ur bait is low quality
2017-10-09T18:29:49 <@englishman> qyx: this was straight from a pro battery company
2017-10-09T18:30:00 <@englishman> and it was ncr18650b lion not life
2017-10-09T18:30:07 <@englishman> real cells with datasheets etc
2017-10-09T18:30:13 < tomeaton17> Ok I looked at the ISR register, and the framing error bit is set
2017-10-09T18:30:14 < qyx> wait what
2017-10-09T18:30:19 < qyx> llion without balancing
2017-10-09T18:30:23 <@englishman> yep
2017-10-09T18:30:27 <@englishman> 3s4p
2017-10-09T18:30:33 <@englishman> i was shocked
2017-10-09T18:30:37 <@englishman> shocked i tell you
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2017-10-09T18:31:03 < qyx> Ia  m looking at https://www.tme.eu/sk/details/cl-18650-26h_2s3p/akumulatory/cellevia-batteries/
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2017-10-09T18:32:43 < qyx> those are from poland though
2017-10-09T18:33:57 <@englishman> looks like it has balancing
2017-10-09T18:35:05 < qyx> some passive one at most
2017-10-09T18:47:10 < Laurenceb> I'm failing at F0
2017-10-09T18:47:20 < Laurenceb> Error: cannot honor width suffix -- `ldr sp,[r0,#0]'
2017-10-09T18:47:29 < Laurenceb> need to edit my asm
2017-10-09T18:51:49 < Laurenceb> thats a weird limitation
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2017-10-09T18:52:13 < Laurenceb>                 ldr       r1,[r0, #0]
2017-10-09T18:52:13 < Laurenceb>                 mov       sp,r1   fixes it
2017-10-09T18:52:59 < karlp> could ajust used C
2017-10-09T18:53:59 < Laurenceb> *shrug* it works
2017-10-09T18:54:17 < Laurenceb> now I "just" need to get my Lanczos resampling to work properly
2017-10-09T19:03:54 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/1ecIOwG.jpg
2017-10-09T19:11:37 < jadew> qyx, did you solve the ADC noise issue?
2017-10-09T19:18:33 < qyx> jadew: not yet, it is still present
2017-10-09T19:18:46 < qyx> I would have to disassemble parts one by one to find out which causes the problem
2017-10-09T19:18:53 < jadew> even after you switched to battery?
2017-10-09T19:18:55 < qyx> in the next revision
2017-10-09T19:19:03 < qyx> yes
2017-10-09T19:19:40 < qyx> I'll add a proper screening to the preamplifier and try again
2017-10-09T19:20:12 < qyx> also I will try to short the ADC input to vdda/2 directly
2017-10-09T19:20:48 < qyx> changing the sampling time doesn't help
2017-10-09T19:22:23 < Laurenceb> sheeeet
2017-10-09T19:22:29 < Laurenceb> 16k of bloat from cubemx
2017-10-09T19:22:41 < Laurenceb> lucky I got 32k flash F042
2017-10-09T19:24:13 < tomeaton17> Ah you use the F042 as well
2017-10-09T19:25:11 < Laurenceb>  _will_ use, _hopefully_
2017-10-09T19:25:42 < jadew> "Working Frequency:5MGHz-6GHz"
2017-10-09T19:25:44 < tomeaton17> Ok. I am struggling to get UART to work, keep getting framing error
2017-10-09T19:29:28 < Laurenceb> do you have usb running?
2017-10-09T19:31:47 < tomeaton17> No I do not
2017-10-09T19:32:17 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-09T19:32:38 < tomeaton17> I am confused because I haven't sent anything and the reg still has framing error bit set
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2017-10-09T19:48:11 < Rob235> w00t web worker finally working
2017-10-09T19:48:23 < Rob235> no more freezing the browser
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2017-10-09T19:55:25 < aandrew> megagigahertz
2017-10-09T20:02:29 < jadew> they don't say what amplifier they're using and they're not providing all the parameters
2017-10-09T20:02:52 < jadew> and the markings on the IC are not visible in any of the photos
2017-10-09T20:03:03 < jadew> so I won't be buying their shitty board
2017-10-09T20:03:35 < jadew> anyway, I'm off to bed, the serial port works now (I got a female to female null modem adapter)
2017-10-09T20:04:08 < jadew> night
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2017-10-09T20:42:51 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/  go to upload and browse for a jpg'png/bmp :)
2017-10-09T20:44:09 < Steffanx> why is the aspect ratio weird?
2017-10-09T20:45:34 < Rob235> you use chrome or firefox?
2017-10-09T20:45:35 < Steffanx> of the uploaded images that
2017-10-09T20:45:36 < Steffanx> is
2017-10-09T20:45:38 < Steffanx> ff
2017-10-09T20:45:42 < Steffanx> i mean chroe
2017-10-09T20:45:47 < Rob235> yea people have told me its not working right in firefox
2017-10-09T20:45:47 < Steffanx> +m
2017-10-09T20:45:49 < Rob235> oh
2017-10-09T20:45:56 < Rob235> really? hmm i'll have to mess around with that
2017-10-09T20:46:21 < Rob235> oh wait, yea I knew that, Ive just been using a test image thats close to the ratio its using so I dont really notice hah
2017-10-09T20:46:29 < Steffanx> the mouse over is correct, the original isnt
2017-10-09T20:46:35 < Rob235> i'll fix that next
2017-10-09T20:49:55 < qyx> it took me a while to realize that that non-working menu is actually a tooltip
2017-10-09T20:51:08 <@englishman> https://i.imgur.com/lyHrlGz.png
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2017-10-09T20:55:04 < Rob235> englishman: how about you, using firefox?
2017-10-09T20:55:10 <@englishman> no
2017-10-09T20:55:12 < Rob235> someone showed me that from ff
2017-10-09T20:55:22 < Rob235> hmm strange, that one I dont get. guess I'll just have to resize it
2017-10-09T20:55:22 < Steffanx> englishman: uses edge
2017-10-09T20:55:27 < Steffanx> or internet explorer
2017-10-09T20:55:27 < Rob235> oh lame heh
2017-10-09T20:55:30 < Rob235> :P
2017-10-09T20:55:31 <@englishman> wat
2017-10-09T20:55:45 < Rob235> maybe line-height will fix it
2017-10-09T20:55:53 < Rob235> well its already on my todo list
2017-10-09T20:56:01 <@englishman> no i have webpages sent to my email that i then fax out on thermal paper
2017-10-09T20:57:36 < BrainDamage> thermal printers are cool i was considering wiring one to my pc simply because they aren't as much as POS
2017-10-09T21:04:17 < Steffanx> now you just sound like ohsix
2017-10-09T21:04:38 < Steffanx> he actually did something like that a few days ago.. printing irc
2017-10-09T21:05:43 < BrainDamage> i would use it to print non insane shit
2017-10-09T21:07:09 < Steffanx> like your newly acquired patent?
2017-10-09T21:07:51 < BrainDamage> since when do you print your own certificates
2017-10-09T21:08:05 < BrainDamage> i mean, to my knowledge only scammers do
2017-10-09T21:08:16 < BrainDamage> do you think so low of me?
2017-10-09T21:10:38 < Steffanx> you had to use it...
2017-10-09T21:10:58 < Steffanx> first thing that came to mind when you said "non insane" BrainDamage
2017-10-09T21:11:16 < BrainDamage> non insane would be receipts or labels
2017-10-09T21:11:45 < BrainDamage> but unlike ohseven, i wouldn't build it until i actually have a decent pourpose
2017-10-09T21:11:53 < BrainDamage> atm is just a passing tought
2017-10-09T21:12:00 <@englishman> id like a thermal printer for ups/fedex labels etc
2017-10-09T21:12:44 < Steffanx> i believe this was a receipt printer
2017-10-09T21:13:28 <@englishman> they all seem to be a million bux tho
2017-10-09T21:15:30 < BrainDamage> about 40€ from amazon here
2017-10-09T21:15:42 < BrainDamage> the fancier can go up to 200
2017-10-09T21:15:54 <@englishman> yeah the ones ups claims to support are $500+
2017-10-09T21:16:04 <@englishman> no idea why
2017-10-09T21:16:33 <@englishman> for stuff around the office i got a cheap one and made sure i could get refills from china
2017-10-09T21:17:02 <@englishman> (which are like 1/4 price)
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2017-10-09T22:05:01 < aandrew> weird
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2017-10-09T22:05:13 < aandrew> I have a jlink v10.1 here that no longer works. everything is "failed to download RAMcode"
2017-10-09T22:05:19 < aandrew> use another jlink with the same target and it's fine
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2017-10-09T23:13:55 < ohsix> sup
2017-10-09T23:14:43 < ohsix> looking for the term in modular arithmetic or watever that is analagous to using (0-1] in reals
2017-10-09T23:15:16 < ohsix> i want to mix a bunch of shit together but i don't have multiplies, and probably can't completely eliminate changing the bias/offset of something with shifts
2017-10-09T23:15:54 < ohsix> don't have any math nerds to ask
2017-10-09T23:16:13 < ohsix> numbers would be as small as 4 bits but in their own 8 bit word
2017-10-09T23:16:34 < ohsix> (eg. only one number in 8 bits, not 2, which would otherwise fit)
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2017-10-10T00:01:07 < ohsix> 16*16=16 bruh
2017-10-10T00:05:45 < ohsix> maybe it would look artistic where it were wrong
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2017-10-10T00:16:35 < upgrdman> i need to generate an isolated 3v3 rail, supporting maybe 30mA. what do i search for.
2017-10-10T00:16:47 < upgrdman> digikey regulator organization is fucked
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2017-10-10T00:18:58 < ohsix> a1117?
2017-10-10T00:19:04 < ohsix> isolated how
2017-10-10T00:19:08 < ohsix> galvanically?
2017-10-10T00:19:12 < upgrdman> ohsix, different grounds
2017-10-10T00:20:12 < ohsix> normally you'd put the isolation somewhere the signals go between the domains, and a separate ground doesn't really mean much
2017-10-10T00:20:23 < ohsix> cuz the ground can be 'far'
2017-10-10T00:21:13 < ohsix> what is the 3v3 side doing and what's it going to be talking at
2017-10-10T00:21:26 < upgrdman> ohsix, i need an isolated rail to power some ic's, and will use optos for signals going to those ic's
2017-10-10T00:22:04 < upgrdman> i feel like some sort of switched capacitor regulator would be acceptable, but fuck if i can find any
2017-10-10T00:22:14 < ohsix> linear has a ton
2017-10-10T00:22:30 < ohsix> but you could just use a diode?//
2017-10-10T00:22:57 < ohsix> is the 3v3 section going to be at some large external potential?
2017-10-10T00:23:29 < upgrdman> ohsix, i need ~2kV isolation
2017-10-10T00:24:31 < ohsix> i'm trying to think of extenuating circumstances that would make it hard/interesting/complicated and not coming up with any
2017-10-10T00:24:53 < upgrdman> cheap :)
2017-10-10T00:24:59 < ohsix> diode and opto
2017-10-10T00:25:17 < upgrdman> diode doesnt isolated the grounds
2017-10-10T00:25:21 < ohsix> you want to keep the difference in potential on the high side
2017-10-10T00:25:27 < upgrdman> no
2017-10-10T00:25:30 < ohsix> it keeps current from flowing through ground
2017-10-10T00:27:57 < ohsix> think about the ground topology in an isolated switching converter
2017-10-10T00:29:40 < ohsix> or not, since that's a different type of isolation and shit is carried over the fence in the magnetics
2017-10-10T00:30:25 < ohsix> you can power over an isolation transformer and ground the low side to signal back to the high side like rfid
2017-10-10T00:50:11 < ohsix> http://www.linear.com/products/inductorless_(charge_pump)_dc%7Cdc_converters
2017-10-10T00:50:40 < ohsix> i've used one of them but i don't remember which
2017-10-10T00:50:44 < ohsix> 10bonersomething
2017-10-10T00:55:06 < ohsix> 1032?
2017-10-10T01:04:50 < upgrdman> i think this + a 3v3 LM1117 on the isolated side will be the cheapest way to get isolated 3v3 https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/murata-power-solutions-inc/CRE1S0505S3C/811-3195-ND/6056051
2017-10-10T01:05:02 < upgrdman> *isolated AND regulated
2017-10-10T01:06:35 < zyp> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/murata-power-solutions-inc/NXJ1S1205MC-R7/811-3095-2-ND/5697916 <- these are more kawaii
2017-10-10T01:07:53 < upgrdman> zyp, saw those
2017-10-10T01:08:19 < upgrdman> they are super kawaii, but i worry about them having a unique footprint and suppliers running out
2017-10-10T01:08:37 < zyp> IIRc they are pretty much footprint compatible with those other things
2017-10-10T01:09:17 < zyp> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/recom-power/R1SE-0505-R/945-1659-2-ND/3593408 <- these
2017-10-10T01:09:19 < upgrdman> how so? theyre smd
2017-10-10T01:09:38 < upgrdman> o
2017-10-10T01:09:40 < upgrdman> hmm
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2017-10-10T03:15:40 < stroopwafel> hello, welcome!
2017-10-10T03:17:40 <@englishman> stroopwafel: i have a new catchphrase for you http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/video-dolphins-coach-apparently-snorts-cocaine-in-team-office-9733461
2017-10-10T03:23:19 < stroopwafel> o/
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2017-10-10T03:48:36 < stroopwafel> englishman: The requested service is temporarily unavailable. It is either overloaded or under maintenance. Please try later.
2017-10-10T03:48:53 <@englishman> haha
2017-10-10T03:48:54 < stroopwafel> amplifier capacitors
2017-10-10T03:49:25 <@englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or35O7Ct_uI
2017-10-10T03:50:31 < stroopwafel> daily crt
2017-10-10T04:04:24 < aandrew> https://gfycat.com/LiquidDeterminedIcterinewarbler top kek
2017-10-10T04:06:03 < stroopwafel> aintnomotherfukkingoddamnniggersinheaven
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2017-10-10T06:43:39 <@englishman> fake kickstarter page: check
2017-10-10T06:43:48 <@englishman> lofty software and hardware goals: check
2017-10-10T06:44:15 <@englishman> buzzwords and links to "media" reports: check
2017-10-10T06:44:32 <@englishman> no functional prototype: check
2017-10-10T06:44:37 <@englishman> million dollar funded: check
2017-10-10T06:44:38 <@englishman> https://puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
2017-10-10T06:50:15 <@englishman> their $1300 13" laptop with spinning rust is 1080p
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2017-10-10T07:33:35 < stroopwafel> privilege bong
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2017-10-10T07:50:16 < ds2> GRRRRRRR wtf doesn't the 2N3007DW come in SOT23-6
2017-10-10T07:53:54 < stroopwafel> WHAT IS IT
2017-10-10T08:00:44 < aandrew> stroopwafel: it's a 6 pin small outline package, but that's not important right now
2017-10-10T08:07:46 < stroopwafel> I KNOW THE PACKAGE MATE
2017-10-10T08:08:00 < stroopwafel> just tell me more about the internals :P
2017-10-10T08:08:16 <@englishman> 2N3007DW is a google unicorn
2017-10-10T08:08:23 < stroopwafel> hell yeeee
2017-10-10T08:08:58 < stroopwafel> DKB1083
2017-10-10T08:09:37 < stroopwafel> figured it'd be some matched low noise precision gayfets
2017-10-10T08:09:58 < stroopwafel> for the next true audiophile style phono pre
2017-10-10T08:17:54 < ohsix> m8
2017-10-10T08:18:47 < ohsix> http://bengler.no/assets/grbl/billy_and_arduino.jpg
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2017-10-10T10:17:04 < zyp> hmm, RDA8810PL looks kinda neat, cortex-a5 with 256MB RAM and 512MB flash in the same package
2017-10-10T10:17:07 < zyp> probably PiP
2017-10-10T10:17:13 < zyp> http://www.rdamicro.com/upload/2016030304473558.pdf
2017-10-10T10:17:37 < zyp> also a whole 2G modem thing that's not so interesting :p
2017-10-10T10:18:14 < zyp> https://www.96boards.org/product/orangepi-i96/ <- I saw this thing, and noted there were no memory chips on the board
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2017-10-10T10:32:16 < fest> toolchain is probably very bad
2017-10-10T10:32:53 < qyx> $8.80? looks cheap
2017-10-10T10:36:13 < zyp> looks like kernel support exists, but isn't merged upstream
2017-10-10T10:36:15 < zyp> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9810655/
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2017-10-10T10:47:00 < stvn> the sappers
2017-10-10T11:20:26 < dfgg> zyp: i have opi 2g, it's kinda shit
2017-10-10T11:21:00 < dfgg> in internal flash you can store only android... and basically this board is crippled chinsese android phone
2017-10-10T11:21:39 < dfgg> afaik opi guys said that linux can be run only from sd card ,_,
2017-10-10T11:23:51 < zyp> that makes no sense at all
2017-10-10T11:31:06 < dfgg> yes. they basically took cpu from phone and put on board
2017-10-10T11:31:08 < dfgg> http://www.orangepi.org/downloadresources/
2017-10-10T11:31:42 < dfgg> even manual says nothing about "normal" linux on nand... only android ,_,
2017-10-10T11:32:16 < zyp> android is linux
2017-10-10T11:32:25 < dfgg> to add even more fun, if you want to get this cpu on 2g iot board with gsm modem - prepare IMEI number as it comes with all zeroes
2017-10-10T11:32:43 < dfgg> just kernel,
2017-10-10T11:33:26 < zyp> and if the flash can be mounted with android userland, it can also be mounted with normal linux userland
2017-10-10T11:34:36 < zyp> I don't really care about the 2G stuff, I'm not even sure there's a functioning 2G network here anymore
2017-10-10T11:35:14 < stvn> welcome;
2017-10-10T11:35:26 < zyp> I just think it's interesting to have a cortex-a with flash and ram in the same package, because that means you essentially have a single chip solution capable of running linux
2017-10-10T11:36:49 < zyp> every other cortex-a chip I've seen would have you route DDR to an external memory chip
2017-10-10T11:36:57 < zyp> unless you go for some expensive PoP solution
2017-10-10T11:37:13 < dfgg> well, fair point
2017-10-10T11:40:36 < qyx> it may be that the internal nand is weird in some aspect and mtd kernel support is not opensourced
2017-10-10T11:42:40 < qyx> also I didn't ecamine it much, does it run u-boot?
2017-10-10T11:42:54 < zyp> I assume so
2017-10-10T11:43:08 < zyp> I don't think I've seen any arm linux stuff that's not based on u-boot
2017-10-10T11:43:34 < qyx> i have, atmels
2017-10-10T11:43:56 < zyp> how does it boot the kernel?
2017-10-10T11:43:57 < qyx> or mikrotik, but thats mips
2017-10-10T11:44:09 < qyx> there was some at91sam bootloader
2017-10-10T11:44:51 < qyx> https://www.at91.com/linux4sam/bin/view/Linux4SAM/AT91Bootstrap
2017-10-10T11:44:51 < zyp> most of the stuff I've seen have some first stage bootloader that loads u-boot, then u-boot loads the kernel
2017-10-10T11:45:03 < qyx> mhm
2017-10-10T11:45:19 < dfgg> it's truly single soc solution, datasheet shows
2017-10-10T11:45:27 < dfgg> 64kB on-chip ROM for system boot
2017-10-10T11:45:48 < qyx> zyp: may be the same in this case too though
2017-10-10T11:46:00 < stvn> hmm
2017-10-10T11:46:35 < zyp> qyx, https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/26/822 <- this talks about u-boot
2017-10-10T11:46:52 < stvn> has anyone seen prodong?
2017-10-10T11:47:09 < zyp> isn't he busy dickstarting in tw or something?
2017-10-10T11:47:35 < dfgg> https://github.com/RDA8810/u-boot-RDA8810/commits/master sounds promising
2017-10-10T11:47:51 < dfgg> but I've didn't tried it yet
2017-10-10T11:48:21 < qyx> but still it is probably some dense fpga
2017-10-10T11:48:44 < qyx> otherwise it looks good
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2017-10-10T12:02:09 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/DClmQag.jpg
2017-10-10T12:02:12 < dongs> me irl
2017-10-10T12:02:25 < dongs> sup doges
2017-10-10T12:03:28 < fest> zyp: there's also this thing http://octavosystems.com/octavo_products/osd335x/
2017-10-10T12:03:46 < fest> a bit more pro than that opi
2017-10-10T12:04:00 < fest> much more expensive though
2017-10-10T12:04:21 < zyp> ooh, with PMIC and all
2017-10-10T12:04:22 < zyp> neat
2017-10-10T12:04:31 < dongs> is that the ti sip thing
2017-10-10T12:04:39 < zyp> and phys and shit
2017-10-10T12:04:44 < zyp> dongs, yeah
2017-10-10T12:05:42 < zyp> 1.27mm pitch bga, could solder that shit at home
2017-10-10T12:06:06 < dongs> totes
2017-10-10T12:06:42 < dongs> fuck. 3more days at this crap
2017-10-10T12:06:54 < fest> I don't recall exact reason but was it Laurenceb who hated beagleboard for something?
2017-10-10T12:07:00 < dongs> bored
2017-10-10T12:07:02 < dongs> yea
2017-10-10T12:07:12 < zyp> I don't put much weight into what Laurenceb hates
2017-10-10T12:07:17 < dongs> cuz hw coylsnt compute with it
2017-10-10T12:07:30 < dongs> he, couldnt
2017-10-10T12:08:48 < dongs> saw insides of model x
2017-10-10T12:08:54 < dongs> so gross
2017-10-10T12:09:01 < dongs> cheap plastic
2017-10-10T12:09:11 < zyp> the glossy shit?
2017-10-10T12:09:19 < dongs> all of it
2017-10-10T12:09:30 < dongs> just looks crap
2017-10-10T12:09:35 < dongs> not premium
2017-10-10T12:10:08 < dongs> the gullwing doors are gr8 tho
2017-10-10T12:11:53 < dongs> bbl
2017-10-10T12:16:47 < stvn> yeah musckes
2017-10-10T12:17:12 < stvn> http://cdn3-www.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2013/05/JCVD_Timecop.jpg
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2017-10-10T13:05:44 < Steffanx> Stvn
2017-10-10T13:06:13 < stvn> hi sir
2017-10-10T13:06:38 < Steffanx> https://www.debijenkorf.nl/le-creuset-theepot-1-liter-6577090314?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIusXSq-fl1gIVCpPtCh3y5w9KEAQYAiABEgKiz_D_BwE&channable=e4291.NjU3NzA5MDMxNA&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_content=657709031400000&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&ef_id=WQScYQAAAXANhBBO:20171010100624:s
2017-10-10T13:06:54 < Steffanx> Better buy
2017-10-10T13:07:13 < stvn> very nice hardware mate
2017-10-10T13:07:26 < stvn> would it fare well in your annual teapot smashing competitions with the norwegians?
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2017-10-10T13:36:09 < Steffanx> Dont know mate
2017-10-10T13:40:28 < stvn> hmm
2017-10-10T13:40:36 < stvn> maybe mr .no knows?
2017-10-10T13:42:13 < zyp> idk, I only have ikea teapots
2017-10-10T13:46:20 < stvn> are they good for smashing?
2017-10-10T13:46:43 < zyp> haven't tried
2017-10-10T13:47:54 < Steffanx> We have a national smart phone throwing contest. Wanna join stvn ?
2017-10-10T13:48:47 < stvn> yes
2017-10-10T13:49:08 < jadew> http://www.topline.tv/drawings/pdf/qfp/TQFP32T19.7.pdf
2017-10-10T13:50:26 < Steffanx> Uh jadew ?
2017-10-10T13:50:42 < jadew> check the last page
2017-10-10T13:50:53 < jadew> that's what it does
2017-10-10T13:51:39 < jadew> I just noticed, that picture on the last page is also the block diagram :P
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2017-10-10T13:52:38 < jadew> it's a fake chip, so your board can look more expensive
2017-10-10T13:53:35 < zyp> haha
2017-10-10T13:55:09 < emeryth> it's a random access write only memory chip
2017-10-10T13:55:36 < jadew> I wonder if you can get them with markings of your choice
2017-10-10T13:56:12 < jadew> "TopLine manufactures CCGA Column Grid Array, solder columns and a wide range of daisy chain semiconductor packages."
2017-10-10T13:56:22 < jadew> "daisy chain semiconductor packages" :)
2017-10-10T14:16:15 < tomeaton17> Any ideas why this is causing a hard fault?  __HAL_UART_ENABLE_IT(&UartHandle, UART_IT_RXNE);?
2017-10-10T14:17:07 < zyp> tomeaton17, yes
2017-10-10T14:17:13 < zyp> you're doing something wrong.
2017-10-10T14:17:42 < dfgg> emeryth: you've forgot it's FULLY ENCODED
2017-10-10T14:17:47 < dfgg> http://repeater-builder.com/molotora/gontor/25120-bw.pdf
2017-10-10T14:19:25 < tomeaton17> zyp: What is the problem?
2017-10-10T14:20:31 < jadew> dfgg, great
2017-10-10T14:22:01 < zyp> tomeaton17, how am I supposed to know?
2017-10-10T14:26:42 < karlp> are you meant to be calling __ functions yourself?
2017-10-10T14:26:55 < karlp> is your uart handle valid?
2017-10-10T14:27:04 < karlp> is it alreayd a pointer? should you not be &'ing it?
2017-10-10T14:27:15 < karlp> is the pointer still valid?
2017-10-10T14:27:29 < zyp> is the handler valid? is the handler doing something that hardfaults?
2017-10-10T14:27:30 < zyp> etch
2017-10-10T14:27:37 < zyp> the list of possibilities are long
2017-10-10T14:27:46 < zyp> start figuring out what kind of hardfault it is
2017-10-10T14:27:52 < karlp> maybe you should add a millisecond delay to it.
2017-10-10T14:28:10 < tomeaton17> haha
2017-10-10T14:28:19 < tomeaton17> I fixed it actually, the bit must be set after you set the nvic stuff
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2017-10-10T15:37:45 < Laurenceb> Table 76. This bit must be set to ‘0’ for the correct operation of the device. PEDO_EN
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2017-10-10T16:40:40 < Laurenceb> F042 DMA interrupt is shared for spi1 tx and rx dma complete
2017-10-10T16:41:03 < Laurenceb> how is the neatest way to identify the two cases inside the isr?
2017-10-10T16:52:11 <@englishman> check the flag?
2017-10-10T16:52:36 < Steffanx> Write the handler in assembly
2017-10-10T16:52:46 < Laurenceb> yeah but all cubemx shit is nice and fancy
2017-10-10T16:52:56 < Laurenceb> maybe I am supposed to set a callback function
2017-10-10T16:56:33 <@englishman> dongs: Mazda interior rite
2017-10-10T16:56:39 < Laurenceb> HAL_StatusTypeDef HAL_DMA_RegisterCallback(
2017-10-10T16:56:41 < Laurenceb> that shit
2017-10-10T16:56:56 <@englishman> are you getting the 2018 Toyota Century V12 instead, with its entirely wool interior
2017-10-10T16:57:15 < Laurenceb> wtf sounds hawt
2017-10-10T16:57:18 < Laurenceb> literally
2017-10-10T16:58:42 < Laurenceb> lulwut literally nothing uses HAL_DMA_RegisterCallback
2017-10-10T16:58:50 < Laurenceb> why does this even exist
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2017-10-10T17:07:08 < Laurenceb> maybe I should try using it
2017-10-10T17:07:20 < Laurenceb> inb4 its buggy as its never been used
2017-10-10T17:09:36 < Laurenceb> wait this wouldnt work anyway
2017-10-10T17:11:36 < Laurenceb> yes it will lol
2017-10-10T17:11:48 < Laurenceb> yeah CubeMX is actually nice
2017-10-10T17:12:22 < Laurenceb> mems sensor interfacing using dma in <200lines and all code in about 6 functions
2017-10-10T17:12:39 < Laurenceb>  + portable
2017-10-10T17:32:00 < Laurenceb> oh wait
2017-10-10T17:32:10 < Laurenceb> there is the 16k of bloat problem....
2017-10-10T17:35:34 < karlp> take out all the spaces,
2017-10-10T17:35:37 < karlp> should fix it
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2017-10-10T17:46:22 <@englishman> laurent is paid per LoC
2017-10-10T17:47:10 <@englishman> hmm that can be a haiku
2017-10-10T17:47:13 <@englishman> writing shitty code
2017-10-10T17:47:30 <@englishman> babby shaking autism
2017-10-10T17:47:31 <@englishman> paid per loc
2017-10-10T17:52:24 < Laurenceb> >babby shaking autism
2017-10-10T17:52:26 < Laurenceb> accurate
2017-10-10T17:52:31 < Laurenceb> I'm in teh shit tho
2017-10-10T17:52:38 < Laurenceb> need demo ready for thrusday
2017-10-10T17:52:58 < Laurenceb> better get codin
2017-10-10T17:54:41 < Laurenceb> >be me
2017-10-10T17:54:47 < Laurenceb> >get asked for demo
2017-10-10T17:54:57 < Laurenceb> >steal babby from randomer
2017-10-10T17:55:05 < Laurenceb> >shake it, it dies
2017-10-10T17:55:10 < Laurenceb> >??? profit
2017-10-10T18:01:43 < Rob235> stroooooooopwafel
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2017-10-10T18:02:13 < Rob235> what chu need a demo of
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2017-10-10T18:03:43 < Laurenceb> imu with usb audio interface
2017-10-10T18:04:08 < Rob235> why usb audio
2017-10-10T18:08:39 < Laurenceb> cuz it works
2017-10-10T18:08:43 < Laurenceb> ...sort of
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2017-10-10T18:59:04 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/v6BgDkik
2017-10-10T18:59:07 < Laurenceb> literally wut
2017-10-10T18:59:14 < Laurenceb> cubemx being weird
2017-10-10T19:03:18 < upgrdman> this is kinda tempting   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunlight-Readable-Red-and-Black-SPI-2-9-E-Ink-E-Paper-Display-128x296-SSD1675A-/292181355395?hash=item44075dab83:g:5LQAAOSwFlxZZsjR
2017-10-10T19:16:06 < Laurenceb> wow cubemx is quite rage inducing
2017-10-10T19:16:17 < Laurenceb>  error: unknown type name 'SPI_HandleTypeDef'
2017-10-10T19:16:50 < Laurenceb> include hell
2017-10-10T19:18:28 < upgrdman> forget to #include <stm32f4xx.h> or whatevs
2017-10-10T19:18:30 < upgrdman> ?
2017-10-10T19:20:38 < kakimir> official pumps
2017-10-10T19:26:59 < Laurenceb> upgrdman: no
2017-10-10T19:27:04 < Laurenceb> I have to stick extern SPI_HandleTypeDef hspi1;
2017-10-10T19:27:11 < Laurenceb> at the top of each source file
2017-10-10T19:27:14 < Laurenceb> wtf is going on
2017-10-10T19:27:21 < upgrdman> ya that doesnt make sense
2017-10-10T19:27:33 < upgrdman> prolly forgot to #define someshit or #include the file
2017-10-10T19:27:38 < Laurenceb> its some weird include logic in the background
2017-10-10T19:27:51 < Laurenceb> works fine if I copypasta it all into main tarduino style
2017-10-10T19:27:58 < upgrdman> you might need to gcc -DSTM32F429faggotwhatever
2017-10-10T19:28:08 < Laurenceb> hmm ok
2017-10-10T19:28:22 < Laurenceb> for the time being I'll just make an extra header than sticks all the externs in there
2017-10-10T19:28:30 < upgrdman> lol super pro
2017-10-10T19:29:35 < Laurenceb>   /* USER CODE BEGIN WHILE */
2017-10-10T19:29:35 < Laurenceb>   while (1)
2017-10-10T19:29:43 < Laurenceb> holy shit literally tarduino
2017-10-10T19:29:47 < Laurenceb> no wonder it breaks
2017-10-10T19:31:24 < upgrdman> is this code from dickexchange.com or something
2017-10-10T19:33:18 < Laurenceb> its from CubeMX
2017-10-10T19:34:55 < upgrdman> close enough
2017-10-10T19:35:38 < upgrdman> does PubeMX assume you're using keil dongvision? maybe thats why it did gcc -Dshitz for you
2017-10-10T19:35:47 < upgrdman> didnt*
2017-10-10T19:37:37 <@englishman> aurenceb> at the top of each source file
2017-10-10T19:37:40 < Laurenceb> I'll take a look l8tr thanks
2017-10-10T19:37:42 < Laurenceb> lol
2017-10-10T19:38:00 <@englishman> in each one wher eyou use that peripheral yes
2017-10-10T19:38:09 < Laurenceb> #include epictroll.h
2017-10-10T19:41:23 < Laurenceb> the callback function stuff is kind of neat
2017-10-10T19:41:32 < Laurenceb> bbl
2017-10-10T19:42:07 < Laurenceb> but Tim is done inconsistently compared to DMA
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2017-10-10T21:09:16 < Ultrasauce> STM HAS 4 CORNER SIMULTANEOUS 4-PERIPHERAL TIME CUBE IN ONLY 24 HOUR ROTATION
2017-10-10T21:10:15 <@englishman> hi sauce long time no troll
2017-10-10T21:10:24 < Ultrasauce> hihi
2017-10-10T21:27:03 < Steffanx> I miss your - hardly ever see them - english words Ultrasauce
2017-10-10T21:35:18 < Ultrasauce> my gratuitous magniloquence?
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2017-10-10T21:38:45 <@englishman> your curmudgeonly dissimulation
2017-10-10T21:41:30 < BrainDamage> now now, has anybody ever gone so far as to claim to be a cunning linguist?
2017-10-10T21:42:26 < Steffanx> Ultrasauce surely deserves that title.
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2017-10-10T23:18:56 < qyx> Bypass OUT with a nominal 1mΩ ESR capacitor of at least 4.7μF.
2017-10-10T23:18:57 < qyx> wut
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2017-10-10T23:33:32 < Rob235> fucking inlaws...
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2017-10-10T23:34:40 < Rob235> built this fairly heavy duty 5 tier shelving unit for the shed out back that they bought and rearranged everything to make it all neat and its all why this, what else can we do? should we get another shelf? blah blah, not thanks, looks good!
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2017-10-10T23:55:23 < ohsix> they'll put it on your tombstone
2017-10-10T23:55:32 < ohsix> "really got cheesed when he didn't want to build that shelf"
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2017-10-11T00:00:19 < ohsix> http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html
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2017-10-11T00:13:11 < BoyHolthausen> well....this is addicting
2017-10-11T00:35:13 < Rob235> :)
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2017-10-11T00:47:58 < BoyHolthausen> almost sold a million paperclips
2017-10-11T00:50:51 <@englishman> welcome BoyHolthausen
2017-10-11T00:51:11 < BoyHolthausen> ty
2017-10-11T00:51:23 < kakimir> https://www.facebook.com/urbanleakdotcom/videos/1752421158387487/
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2017-10-11T02:43:11 < stvn32> replace all the electrolytics steffan
2017-10-11T02:43:15 < Rob235> he choked on a stroop
2017-10-11T02:43:33 < Rob235> it has electrolytes!
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2017-10-11T02:45:33 < stvn32> oy vey
2017-10-11T02:54:31 < Rob235> are you jewish?
2017-10-11T02:55:07 < Rob235> man this website is never gonna be finished
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2017-10-11T03:04:43 < upgrdman> https://gfycat.com/ShamelessSorrowfulBoto
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2017-10-11T03:17:25 < stvn32> wtf is a website
2017-10-11T03:22:01 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/ofrb1aiufyqz.png
2017-10-11T03:22:21 < stvn32> the dogs!
2017-10-11T03:23:49 < stvn32> i need to buy THROUGH HOLE RESISTORS
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2017-10-11T03:25:25 <@englishman> \o/
2017-10-11T03:26:06 <@englishman> The android.support package references over 13,000 methods, which seems excessive for a Hello World app.
2017-10-11T03:26:10 <@englishman> and you guys complain about HAL
2017-10-11T03:28:20 < stvn32> lel
2017-10-11T03:28:23 < stvn32> wtf are you doing !
2017-10-11T03:29:01 < stvn32> method sounds very OOP
2017-10-11T03:29:04 < stvn32> it scares me
2017-10-11T03:50:48 < upgrdman> http://www.sundaypost.org/2017/10/07/hemet-man-celebrates-after-his-penis-is-confirmed-as-the-worlds-longest/
2017-10-11T03:50:57 < upgrdman> “In my younger days, I had a fairly average penis. It wasn’t particularly short, but it was definitely not as long as it is now. Unlike a lot of previous world record holders who won the genetic lottery and were already born with large packages, I’ve had to work really hard to achieve this.”
2017-10-11T03:51:21 < upgrdman> lolwut
2017-10-11T03:56:08 < sync> wat
2017-10-11T04:00:02 < stvn32> stm32
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2017-10-11T04:48:14 < upgrdman> fucking Linaro. their youtube channel has so many videos with awesome sounding titles, and the absolute DRYEST MOST BORING content possible.
2017-10-11T04:48:49 < upgrdman> reminds me of college. syllabus sounds awesome and the prof is a useless turd.
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2017-10-11T04:55:28 < stvn32> upgrdman: what ya doin
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2017-10-11T04:56:45 < upgrdman> stvn32, in general? not much. just thinking about how i want to improve my servo tester project. or was that regarding linaro? i sub'd to them when i found an excellent presentation on GDB and it seems like that is the one useful video they have ever posted.
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2017-10-11T05:01:02 < stvn32> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPJhgJ0ajYo
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2017-10-11T06:08:27 < BoyHolthausen> ohsix I finished the paperclip game.... no more upgrades left :(
2017-10-11T06:09:56 < BoyHolthausen> Paperclips made: 1,904,036,230,035,790,000,000,000,000
2017-10-11T06:10:48 < BoyHolthausen> oh wait, it seems a new upgrade unlocked just now
2017-10-11T06:11:16 < BoyHolthausen> paperclips entered space exploration business
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2017-10-11T06:57:05 < upgrdman_> TIL how to gym  https://gfycat.com/CaringLonelyArmyworm
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2017-10-11T10:22:55 < ohsix> which one of you guys grabbed terry crews' dick
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2017-10-11T10:57:16 < ohsix> hubub
2017-10-11T10:57:39 < ohsix> what's a good timestamp for animating junk :|
2017-10-11T10:57:54 < ohsix> i've used relative timers with timer state but that suxxx
2017-10-11T10:59:56 < ohsix> ms' grows fast and i'd have to do range reduction/offset shit anyways
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2017-10-11T11:33:08 < jadew> ohsix, that peperclip game is addictive
2017-10-11T11:33:36 < jadew> I mean, I don't think I'll play it again, but I can't stop playing it the first time
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2017-10-11T11:35:53  * theepot waves to steffan
2017-10-11T11:42:18 < ReadErr> yall been keeping up with the trials and tribulations of terry davis and being homeless?
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2017-10-11T11:46:34 < theepot> nope
2017-10-11T11:46:39 < theepot> spill it brother
2017-10-11T11:54:29 < theepot> nice calculator you fucking blockhead
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2017-10-11T12:10:24 < theepot> skiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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2017-10-11T12:43:28 < theepot> ReadErr, wake up
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2017-10-11T13:47:34 < theepot> news
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2017-10-11T15:01:56 < Laurenceb> Src/main.c:136:19: error: 'uwTick' undeclared
2017-10-11T15:02:02 < Laurenceb> ok Cube is annoying me now
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2017-10-11T16:02:47 < Laurenceb> oh i see the problem
2017-10-11T16:03:09 < Laurenceb> mortal users aren't supposed to touch HAL internal variables
2017-10-11T16:03:23 < Laurenceb> there are functions to interface with all this stuff
2017-10-11T16:03:47 < Laurenceb> somehow they have made all the variables invisible with header trickery
2017-10-11T16:04:18 < Laurenceb> but muh globals.h header "fixes" it
2017-10-11T16:04:42 < karlp> yeah, that sounds like nothing could go wrong.
2017-10-11T16:06:57 < Laurenceb> no wonder HAL is bloated
2017-10-11T16:07:17 < Laurenceb> interface function to read 32bit flags
2017-10-11T16:12:34 < karlp> some people like consistent apis
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2017-10-11T16:25:56 <@englishman> if only laurent could read the handy helpfile to learn the location and use of all private and public variables
2017-10-11T16:26:05 <@englishman> if only there was a handy .chm document that everyone seems to ignore
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2017-10-11T16:31:57 < Steffanx> Fuck.chm
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2017-10-11T16:34:40 < karlp> instead of sometimes functions, sometimes register access
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2017-10-11T16:39:29 < Laurenceb> Lanczos is making my head hurt
2017-10-11T16:39:46 < Laurenceb> maybe I should collect some statistics on HSI48 trimming noise
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2017-10-11T17:00:24 < Laurenceb> anyone here worked with pro audio kit?
2017-10-11T17:00:34 < Laurenceb> I need some microphones for muh ambulance
2017-10-11T17:01:42 < Laurenceb> atm thinking studio condenser mics and  Behringer rack mounted stuff for the interface with datalogging pc
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2017-10-11T17:34:21 < tpw_rules> wait why
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2017-10-11T17:34:42 < tpw_rules> all i know re pro audio is that you need wires built from the hair of nude virgins
2017-10-11T17:34:44 < tpw_rules> and not yours
2017-10-11T17:48:57 < Laurenceb> lel
2017-10-11T17:49:29 < Laurenceb> maybe I should just get a "basic" standalone recorder with XLR sockets and 48v "phantom power"
2017-10-11T17:49:39 < Laurenceb> then build a rig to calibrate it
2017-10-11T17:49:54 < Laurenceb> I need liek <1dB error calibration from 20hz-20khz
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2017-10-11T17:54:34 < Laurenceb> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1086779-REG/tascam_dr_10x_dr_10cx_plug_on_micro_linear.html
2017-10-11T17:54:39 < Laurenceb> cheaper than I expected
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2017-10-11T17:57:13 < Laurenceb> but no phantom power
2017-10-11T17:57:18 < Laurenceb> freaking audiophools
2017-10-11T17:58:25 < Laurenceb> Behringer Brevik
2017-10-11T18:00:06 < qyx> iepe microphones are a no go?
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2017-10-11T18:00:28 < Laurenceb> didnt even know that was a thing
2017-10-11T18:00:43 < qyx> much pro
2017-10-11T18:00:47 < qyx> for measurements
2017-10-11T18:00:49 < Laurenceb> holy shit
2017-10-11T18:00:52 < Laurenceb> dat price
2017-10-11T18:01:05 < Laurenceb> GRAS 1/4" Pressure Response Microphone: 1.6mV/Pa	12 - 20	£ 1,530.00
2017-10-11T18:01:42 < Laurenceb> and I though calibrated condenser mics were overpriced
2017-10-11T18:03:02 < Laurenceb> guess I could use Tascam thingy + Lavalier condenser mic + Lavalier wired belt clip
2017-10-11T18:03:15 < Laurenceb> nasty to calibrate the tronics tho
2017-10-11T18:03:35 < Laurenceb> or make this backpack mounted https://cvp.com/product/tascam_sd-20m
2017-10-11T18:03:37 < Laurenceb>  /troll
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2017-10-11T18:10:32 < Laurenceb> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Phantom-Power-Supply-Adaptor-EMA-1/dp/B000WL2B68
2017-10-11T18:10:40 < Laurenceb> doesnt actually look too faffy
2017-10-11T18:10:56 < Laurenceb> but pro audio shit looks as much rip off as rc modelling
2017-10-11T18:11:08 < Laurenceb> phantom power is the audiophool BEC
2017-10-11T18:13:24 < tomeaton17> Having a problem with i2c on the stm32f04 where SCL just stays high but SDA is working. Caused a fault on the chip and got a vecstate output. Please can someone tell what the vecstate output means https://i.imgur.com/YznfaHz.png
2017-10-11T18:15:08 < zyp> looks like you triggered an unimplemented interrupt handler, so you got stuck
2017-10-11T18:15:22 < zyp> I'm guessing i2c error interrupt, given what you've said so far
2017-10-11T18:15:36 < zyp> you can check that by looking up what handler 39 is for
2017-10-11T18:17:34 < tomeaton17> Thanks. According to stm32f042x6.h there isn't a handler 39
2017-10-11T18:18:52 < zyp> bullshit
2017-10-11T18:18:57  * karlp laughs
2017-10-11T18:19:03 < karlp> lurn 2 count
2017-10-11T18:19:08 < zyp> according to RM0091, handler 39 is I2C1
2017-10-11T18:19:41 < zyp> «I2C1 global interrupt (combined with EXTI line 23)» is what it says
2017-10-11T18:20:12  * karlp spanks tomeaton for pasting text as images
2017-10-11T18:20:46 < karlp> wwdg handler is probably an alias for blocking handler/default handler
2017-10-11T18:21:11 < tomeaton17> Ok, what is the number in this file for then? https://hastebin.com/haqitituqo.scala
2017-10-11T18:21:24 < zyp> karlp, yes, that was my point
2017-10-11T18:21:41 < tomeaton17> Oh those are interrupts not handlers
2017-10-11T18:21:45 < zyp> tomeaton17, IRQ number
2017-10-11T18:21:51 < zyp> IRQ0 is handler 16
2017-10-11T18:21:56 < zyp> 16 + 23 is 39
2017-10-11T18:22:23 < tomeaton17> Ok I didn't know about the offset
2017-10-11T18:22:30 < tomeaton17> Thanks
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2017-10-11T18:22:56 < zyp> the reason is that the first 16 entires in the vector table are reserved for cpu core stuff
2017-10-11T18:23:10 < zyp> like reset/fault/systick handlers
2017-10-11T18:23:21 < zyp> and then the rest from 16 on are IRQ handlers
2017-10-11T18:23:47 < tomeaton17> Ok, is that why systick and so on have negative numbers?
2017-10-11T18:23:57 < Thorn> Echostar 105 / SES-11 Launch Webcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1zeGSvhIw
2017-10-11T18:24:28 < zyp> tomeaton17, yes
2017-10-11T18:27:19 < zyp> karlp, WWDG is IRQ0, and since all default handlers are weak aliases for some blocking handler, you get a bunch of symbols pointing to the same address
2017-10-11T18:27:33 < zyp> so when reverse resolving that, the debugger picks the first matching symbol it finds
2017-10-11T18:27:57 < karlp> yeah, that's what I was suggesting ws happening,
2017-10-11T18:28:10 < zyp> I know, just elaborating
2017-10-11T18:30:14 < tomeaton17> Ok thanks for the help, its not longer hard faulting but still nothing on SCL :(
2017-10-11T18:30:35 < zyp> check that the pin is mapped correctly to the right AF
2017-10-11T18:35:04 < tomeaton17> Yeah it is mapped to GPIO_AF_I2C1, I configured both SDA and SCL exactly the same
2017-10-11T18:35:33 < tomeaton17> As it is SCL maybe there is a timing issue
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2017-10-11T18:43:10 < tomeaton17> Checked the registers and they seem ok :/
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2017-10-11T19:40:36 < tomeaton17> Ok I fixed the problem, by changing the chip
2017-10-11T19:40:43 < tomeaton17> Something must have been wrong with the first chip
2017-10-11T19:43:13 < Steffanx> just curious this is you hobby bobbying right?
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2017-10-11T19:45:11 < tomeaton17> What does that mean
2017-10-11T19:46:02 < Steffanx> If you are just messing around as a hobby or if its work-work.
2017-10-11T19:46:26 < tomeaton17> Oh right no I am doing this for my internship before I go to university
2017-10-11T19:46:58 < Steffanx> internship @ a company or working from home?
2017-10-11T19:47:09 < tomeaton17> @ a company
2017-10-11T19:47:39 < tomeaton17> Why do you ask?
2017-10-11T19:48:26 < karlp> it's being suggested you ask your mentor for help
2017-10-11T19:49:23 < Steffanx> It's not that ##stm32 doesnt want to help ofcourse, but sometimes it's easier to get help from someone directly next to you.
2017-10-11T19:51:58 < tomeaton17> Oh right fair enough. Unfortunately there are no other electrical engineers at the company, but I will limit my questions on this channel then
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2017-10-11T20:32:57 < Thorn> why are ss510 diodes available both in SMC and SMA (from China, much cheaper than SMC)
2017-10-11T20:33:17 < Thorn> 5A, 100V schottky
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2017-10-11T20:53:11 < Steffanx> what is it exactly what you're working on tomeaton17?
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2017-10-11T21:17:24 < tomeaton17> Steffanx: A Battery management system for LiPo batteries which are used to drive quadcopter motors
2017-10-11T21:20:04 < qyx> kaboom kaboom
2017-10-11T21:20:13 < qyx> tomeaton17: ho many series cells?
2017-10-11T21:21:25 < tomeaton17> qyx: The batteries have 4 cells
2017-10-11T21:25:23 < karlp> Thorn: yeah, diode prices on ali/tabao seemed weird last time I looked at thhem too
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2017-10-11T21:30:51 < tomeaton17> The other people at the company are python programmers :/
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2017-10-11T21:37:28 < qyx> and what does the company do? quadcopters?
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2017-10-11T21:39:13 < tomeaton17> Its main business is in website development but they have just started an aerospace division hence why there are no electrical engineers. Quadcopters are involved in what the department does yes
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2017-10-11T21:45:05 < tomeaton17> Most of the work is done for me with the BQ76920 Ic which is an excellent chip imo
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2017-10-11T22:05:53 < Steffanx> Hmm an EE internship at a non-EE company. interesting :)
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2017-10-11T22:11:06 < tomeaton17> Its becoming an engineering company but there are definitely no STM32 devs there! :p
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2017-10-11T22:14:33 < zyp> sounds like a recipe to not be bored at work
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2017-10-11T22:29:56 < tomeaton17> I definitely don't find it boring
2017-10-11T22:33:44 < zyp> I also used to be the sole EE in a software company
2017-10-11T22:34:06 < zyp> I mean, I did software too, but when hardware stuff came up, people came to me
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2017-10-11T23:37:17 < upgrdman> any of you pros wired up a 10/100 eth phy before? if phy is within a few centimeters of the RJ45+magnetics, do i need to worry about impedance and length matching? this is just 10/100, not GigE.
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2017-10-11T23:44:08 < qyx> wire as you wish
2017-10-11T23:44:45 < qyx> mmt
2017-10-11T23:46:57 < qyx> upgrdman: https://i.imgur.com/pCorf6m.jpg
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2017-10-11T23:47:07 < qyx> this was a KSZ8051 iirc
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2017-10-11T23:50:57 < qyx> also https://i.imgur.com/oXMqbIO.jpg
2017-10-11T23:51:12 < qyx> this was some micrel RMII, both work okish
2017-10-11T23:55:27 < qyx> probably you should terminate unused pairs
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2017-10-12T00:02:02 < zyp> upgrdman, you're thinking of medium side, not RMII side?
2017-10-12T00:03:29 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/Q8moB.png <- here's a design I did once
2017-10-12T00:03:36 < zyp> f4 and some micrel phy
2017-10-12T00:04:10 < zyp> RMII is too slow for length to matter at those distances
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2017-10-12T00:07:13 < zyp> looks like same phy as in qyx' second pic
2017-10-12T00:07:55 < zyp> routing looks fairly similar
2017-10-12T00:10:13 < ohsix> boners
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2017-10-12T00:14:17 < qyx> it was ksz8081rnaca or 8031 or whatever it was
2017-10-12T00:14:38 < karlp> I think we have a list of "fave" phys in the zypsnips fro you guys
2017-10-12T00:21:54 <@englishman> ?OTRv23?
2017-10-12T00:21:57 <@englishman> hehe
2017-10-12T00:22:03 <@englishman> Thorn: better update your client
2017-10-12T00:22:38 < ohsix> heheh
2017-10-12T00:23:03 < ohsix> i think i'm running into more and more often, people that don't know anything about machine control, and consequently they say a lot about what things can't happen or work
2017-10-12T00:25:36 < Thorn> englishman wat
2017-10-12T00:26:29 <@englishman> check pm
2017-10-12T00:26:30 < zyp> qyx, yeah, ksz8081rnaca
2017-10-12T00:26:44 < zyp> karlp, haha, yeah, me and qyx are quoted there
2017-10-12T00:34:02 < upgrdman> qyx, zyp, re: ethernet, ok thanks
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2017-10-12T00:56:25 < Cracki> ?OTRv23?
2017-10-12T00:56:28 < Cracki> lol
2017-10-12T00:58:30 <@englishman> yeah
2017-10-12T00:58:34 <@englishman> now dont do that ever again
2017-10-12T00:58:44 <@englishman> or if you do, do it in #freenode
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2017-10-12T00:59:19 < Cracki> lemme guess, they take offense to that
2017-10-12T01:00:06 < Cracki> it's like shouting "hey idiot" and checking who's turning their head
2017-10-12T01:04:24 < BrainDamage> it's part of the handshake message of the otr protocol, but something went wrong if it automatically activated, because it's supposed use whitespace at the end of 1st message for autodetection support, it's more likely accidental manual activation
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2017-10-12T01:19:01 < Cracki> I know :)
2017-10-12T01:19:26 < Cracki> i got two instant replies, so automated, and one just now
2017-10-12T01:19:54 < BrainDamage> it's not meant to work in chatrooms tought afaik, it's strickly 1 to 1
2017-10-12T01:19:58 < Cracki> broken clients
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2017-10-12T01:39:15 < Thorn> webcast is live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv1zeGSvhIw
2017-10-12T01:42:34 <@englishman> thanks
2017-10-12T01:56:47 < Cracki> oh hey grid fins deployed already
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2017-10-12T02:33:32 <@englishman> qyx: http://www.pleasetakecareofmyplant.com/
2017-10-12T02:33:38 <@englishman> found your project
2017-10-12T02:48:03 < kakimir> how is sauna project going englishman?
2017-10-12T02:48:27 <@englishman> cut a bunch of wood last weekend but no sauna
2017-10-12T02:48:38 < kakimir> to get finnish citizenship you need to know how to build a sauna
2017-10-12T02:49:18 < kakimir> wood?
2017-10-12T02:49:26 < kakimir> for heating?
2017-10-12T02:50:04 < kakimir> I'm buying an air conditioner unit to heat the room in the winter
2017-10-12T02:50:57 <@englishman> yeah, filling the basement
2017-10-12T02:51:12 <@englishman> rather, you are buying an a/c unit to cool the outdoors
2017-10-12T02:52:51 < kakimir> I'm consuming the energy to heat up the planet!
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2017-10-12T02:53:59 <@englishman> where does finnish electricity come from mr kaks?
2017-10-12T02:54:14 < kakimir> russia
2017-10-12T02:55:02 <@englishman> you steal every kWh?
2017-10-12T02:55:05 <@englishman> awesome
2017-10-12T02:55:37 < kakimir> I think we pay for it in contrast to some other east european countries
2017-10-12T02:58:45 < kakimir> oh it's actually only 20% from russia or so
2017-10-12T02:58:50 <@englishman> just remember to never give up your nukes, no matter what the western devil says
2017-10-12T02:58:55 <@englishman> or you'll end up like ukraine
2017-10-12T02:59:14 < kakimir> yes
2017-10-12T02:59:22 < kakimir> finland must keep it's nukes
2017-10-12T03:01:25 <@englishman> i believe you call them saunapommi
2017-10-12T03:01:58 <@englishman> very devastating
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2017-10-12T03:09:55 < kakimir> isn't it a little late for wood work?
2017-10-12T03:10:24 < kakimir> we have or had a thing englishman
2017-10-12T03:10:29 < kakimir> "kylähullu"
2017-10-12T03:10:45 < kakimir> madman of the town
2017-10-12T03:13:16 < kakimir> people doing a strange thing for their whole live becoming sort of saints
2017-10-12T03:14:37 < kakimir> people used to drive long way to see some of them in person and some even believe in their mad things
2017-10-12T03:15:54 < kakimir> one person 10km from here made "medicine" from oil in his secret lab and imported thai wifes to work in his secret lab
2017-10-12T03:16:52 < kakimir> he sold his medicine and some people even drank it
2017-10-12T03:19:32 < kakimir> last years of his life he refused to heat his house with the cubic meters of oil he had but instead in the autumn and winter he started to cut down trees and burned them whole in his baking oven by feeding the wet tree in manually from open hatch
2017-10-12T03:20:56 < Thorn> some quality in depth power electronics lectures https://www.youtube.com/user/sambenyaakov/videos
2017-10-12T03:27:18 < kakimir> oh there is a word in english "village idiot" but it's not necessary the exact same thing
2017-10-12T03:33:12 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsDBl72hsbo
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2017-10-12T03:39:40 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/agYAE2D.jpg
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2017-10-12T05:55:07 < jsoft> I'm having problems in the linking stage of an STM32F767 project, when I enable hardware floating point. So essentially all my main project files get compiled with VFP register arguments. But it appears for whatever reason, the main binary does not: Drivers/STM32F7xx_HAL_Driver/Src/stm32f7xx_hal_tim_ex.c.obj uses VFP register arguments, STM32F767.elf does not
2017-10-12T05:55:31 < jsoft> Any suggestions on sorting this out?
2017-10-12T06:06:58 <@englishman> Paperclips: 30,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
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2017-10-12T06:45:15 < tpw_rules> is that true
2017-10-12T06:45:20 < tpw_rules> or does it use floats
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2017-10-12T07:44:08 < ohsix> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LENS-For-5050-SMD-LEDS-WS2812-WS2811-SK6812-30-60-140-Degree-Angle/32826204778.html huh
2017-10-12T07:44:27 <@englishman> o6 i beat paperclips
2017-10-12T07:44:31 <@englishman> was fun
2017-10-12T07:52:43 < ohsix> nice
2017-10-12T07:52:54 < ohsix> ya i enjoyed, hate those games generally for what they do to my attention tho
2017-10-12T07:53:09 < ohsix> irl pal beat it and i asked him if he dismantled or started again
2017-10-12T07:53:14 < ohsix> we had a moment when he said dismantled
2017-10-12T07:55:24 < ohsix> there were silly bugs
2017-10-12T07:56:02 < ohsix> during gc's you could click on the buttons for combat/explore and some others, and it'd do all the button presses when it resumed after gc, and the limits on the button would be exceeded
2017-10-12T07:56:18 < ohsix> even go negative, which broke the shit out of the game i was playing, when i had negative factories and negative matter
2017-10-12T08:00:39 < ohsix> just got back from a meatup tha thappened to have most of the people i told about the game there
2017-10-12T08:01:45 <@englishman> i dismantled, what does it do if you accept?
2017-10-12T08:02:50 < ohsix> not sure, and not playing again to find out heheh
2017-10-12T08:03:17 < ohsix> they probably spin it to some restarting the universe thing where you put all the mass together and it does something
2017-10-12T08:06:26 < jsoft> I am getting some very strange behaviour in my code. I have an if (apply_offset) { offset = 2048; }. If I comment that out, things work well ( even though I am not using offset atm.
2017-10-12T08:06:37 < jsoft> If I do not comment it out, things do not work as expected.
2017-10-12T08:07:00 < jsoft> The next statement after that is an infinite loop.
2017-10-12T08:07:31 < jsoft> Any ideas what might be going on here?
2017-10-12T08:07:39 < ohsix> is that the only code that does something in the loop that can't be removed from the compiler for being idempotent?
2017-10-12T08:07:49 < ohsix> look at assemblt on gcc.godbolt.org, make a sample
2017-10-12T08:08:54 < jsoft> ohsix, directly after that, the loop is while (1) { dac_set(adc_get()); }
2017-10-12T08:10:29 < PaulFertser> jsoft: yes, compare the assembly listings for the working and non-working cases.
2017-10-12T08:10:31 < ohsix> if that just ends up twiddling registers that aren't marked volatile the compiler can remove it as having no side effects external to the function
2017-10-12T08:11:41 < jsoft> ohsix, well.. ok.. but I cant put everything in there
2017-10-12T08:11:59 < ohsix> use objdump then
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2017-10-12T08:14:32 < jsoft> Oh hello
2017-10-12T08:14:50 < jsoft> I was commenting some unused variables out, before obdump, and now it works
2017-10-12T08:16:15 < jsoft> Ohhhh I think I know what it is now.
2017-10-12T08:16:56 < jsoft> I was initializing an array like foo bar[size] based off of size_t size
2017-10-12T08:17:07 < jsoft> And recently I have changed compiler options.
2017-10-12T08:20:05 < jsoft> do I have my head up my arse here? Can I go void foo(size_t s) { char bar[s]; ... } ?
2017-10-12T08:20:43 < ds2> hmmm
2017-10-12T08:22:21 < ohsix> ehh you can, but heavily qualified
2017-10-12T08:22:56 < ohsix> as in, i don't know the rules, as a gcc extension before c99 and no idea in c++
2017-10-12T08:23:15 < ohsix> if it's on the stack it's probably simple but shit in c++ like that can throw bad_alloc too
2017-10-12T08:23:37 < jsoft> Hmm ok
2017-10-12T08:23:55 < ohsix> englishman: / anyone, is there a well known place to get LED strips at bulk / 'lowest' price, prices are really obfuscated on ali/ebay
2017-10-12T08:24:18 <@englishman> 2812b or regular single colour
2017-10-12T08:26:19 < ohsix> either, but mostly 2812/apa102/whatever is cheapest
2017-10-12T08:26:39 < ohsix> regular single color seems to be available for like a dollar a meter at 60 per meter
2017-10-12T08:26:47 < ohsix> maybe less
2017-10-12T08:27:44 < ohsix> i will probably have some junk coming up that needs a few tens of meters
2017-10-12T08:31:22 < ohsix> usually tyhere's a buywidgetgood.com for a given vertical thing like LEDs and LED strips but i haven't chanced upon one
2017-10-12T08:39:22 < jsoft> Gargh
2017-10-12T08:55:35 < jsoft> Ok so has anyone else discovered strange problems when running uC at maximum frequency?
2017-10-12T08:56:32 < qyx> re china led strips
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2017-10-12T08:56:57 < qyx> I once bought 15m of 12V strip
2017-10-12T08:57:10 < qyx> it had such voltage drop that it was clearly visible after 2m
2017-10-12T08:58:32 < dale6998> hey, quick question...if i'm using the HAL libraries and doing a continuous conversion on DMA, how often is that transfer/update into my storage array happening?
2017-10-12T08:58:49 < dale6998> from an ADC...forgot to add that
2017-10-12T09:00:00 < qyx> as fast as possible
2017-10-12T09:00:21 < qyx> you can calculate it from the sampling time, resolution and ADC clock
2017-10-12T09:00:33 < dale6998> oh no
2017-10-12T09:00:38 < qyx> or you can trigger the adc from a timer at a specified freq
2017-10-12T09:01:06 < dale6998> yeah, i'd like to get it to grab all of my channels and stuff them into an array, but only do it when i ask for it
2017-10-12T09:02:00 < qyx> so pick up a timer, configure one output compare, configure its TRGO output and select external trigger on the ADC corresponding to that timer TRGO output
2017-10-12T09:02:19 < qyx> there is a table in the RM saying which timer maps to which adc
2017-10-12T09:02:48 < qyx> or you can configure an update even to trigger the TRGO, there are multiple choices
2017-10-12T09:03:08 < qyx> or if the rate is not too high, just trigger it by software
2017-10-12T09:03:21 < qyx> inside an timer interrupt, etc.
2017-10-12T09:03:29 < qyx> *of
2017-10-12T09:05:40 < dale6998> qyx: thanks...the rate is very low
2017-10-12T09:06:00 < dale6998> qyx: so, i can be sloppy and it's getting late, so...bad decisions have to be made
2017-10-12T09:06:13 < dale6998> qyx: here's my plan..well, here's what i tried that just failed..
2017-10-12T09:06:33 < dale6998> when i want to measure something, i'm putting one of these first:
2017-10-12T09:06:35 < dale6998> 5~
2017-10-12T09:06:37 < dale6998>     HAL_ADC_Start_DMA(&hadc1, (uint32_t*)ADCValue,10);
2017-10-12T09:06:55 < dale6998> and then, i've got one of these in the DMA interrupt:
2017-10-12T09:06:56 < dale6998>     HAL_ADC_Start_DMA(&hadc1, (uint32_t*)ADCValue,10);
2017-10-12T09:07:11 < qyx> I don't even HAL
2017-10-12T09:07:13 < ohsix> qyx: nice, is it expected to be cut every ft or something?
2017-10-12T09:07:22 < dale6998> void DMA2_Stream0_IRQHandler(void)
2017-10-12T09:07:22 < dale6998> {
2017-10-12T09:07:22 < dale6998>   /* USER CODE BEGIN DMA2_Stream0_IRQn 0 */
2017-10-12T09:07:22 < dale6998>   /* USER CODE END DMA2_Stream0_IRQn 0 */
2017-10-12T09:07:22 < dale6998>   HAL_DMA_IRQHandler(&hdma_adc1);
2017-10-12T09:07:25 < dale6998>   /* USER CODE BEGIN DMA2_Stream0_IRQn 1 */
2017-10-12T09:07:27 < dale6998>   HAL_ADC_Stop_DMA(&hadc1);
2017-10-12T09:07:30 < dale6998>   /* USER CODE END DMA2_Stream0_IRQn 1 */
2017-10-12T09:07:32 < qyx> dale6998 pls
2017-10-12T09:07:32 < dale6998> }
2017-10-12T09:07:43 < ohsix> gist it
2017-10-12T09:07:46 < qyx> pastebin
2017-10-12T09:07:47 < dale6998> qyx: sorry sorry
2017-10-12T09:09:44 < dale6998> https://pastebin.com/ny4P3MPq
2017-10-12T09:09:55 < dale6998> that's the whole ugly story
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2017-10-12T09:56:44 < zyp> hmm
2017-10-12T09:57:31 < zyp> I asked my coworker if he ordered the stuff from digikey that I specified a couple of days ago
2017-10-12T09:58:07 < zyp> "not yet, I'm still waiting for them to approve the account I created"
2017-10-12T09:58:51 < zyp> I can't remember digikey doing any sort of manual review/approval
2017-10-12T09:59:02 < zyp> do they, or is he just making up excuses?
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2017-10-12T10:13:56 < ds2> they don't require accounts.
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2017-10-12T10:21:32 < lomas> I have a typedef struct profile at a .h file. I made declared a struct to a ptr as "extern profile *myStruct" at .h file. How can I initialize it in my .c file ?
2017-10-12T10:22:16 < zyp> profile *myStruct = &shit;
2017-10-12T10:22:24 < qyx> that
2017-10-12T10:23:26 < lomas> what is shit then ?
2017-10-12T10:23:46 < zyp> the shit you want to point to
2017-10-12T10:26:05 < qyx> or profile *myStruct = &(profile) { ... shuld work
2017-10-12T10:26:49 < qyx> I avoid typedefs for a higher good
2017-10-12T10:29:49 < lomas> thank you qyx
2017-10-12T10:32:11 < qyx> looks like I am still sleeping https://i.imgur.com/7OEHu1A.png
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2017-10-12T10:52:41 < stvn> get off the fence!
2017-10-12T10:52:45 < stvn> you liberal voting dog
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2017-10-12T10:59:57 < stvn> cats though
2017-10-12T11:04:25 < Steffanx> Stop drugs stvn
2017-10-12T11:04:36 < stvn> o/
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2017-10-12T11:13:11 < Steffanx> Where is dongs?
2017-10-12T11:14:02 < stvn> busy trying to gas jews
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2017-10-12T11:36:56 < stvn> well spill the beans mate
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2017-10-12T12:38:40 < ohsix> kind of miss the basic questions, may be time to return to the internet cesspits
2017-10-12T12:40:35 < Laurenceb> holy shit
2017-10-12T12:40:36 < Laurenceb> https://www.gumtree.com/p/tatoo-body-art/titan-3-q-switch-nd-yag-laser-tattoo-removal-machine/1157412863
2017-10-12T12:40:56 < Laurenceb> diy NIF when
2017-10-12T12:59:48 < ohsix> https://twitter.com/otxku/status/917859325925830661
2017-10-12T13:03:16 < jsoft> High performance goggles, team
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2017-10-12T13:08:54 < karlp> zyp: hrm, I had some weird thing with digikey on some account approval a few years ago.
2017-10-12T13:09:08 < karlp> it was related to being able to have a "real" account to do cart sving and sharing or some shit
2017-10-12T13:09:12 < karlp> it was really surprising,
2017-10-12T13:10:56 < ohsix> hmprnh
2017-10-12T13:11:19 < Laurenceb> I like this timeline http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41593659
2017-10-12T13:13:06 < ohsix> has anyone used a status led for serial logging, not just blinking it but like pausing pwm control and using nrzi to blink it out; so it looks like the LED isn't changing
2017-10-12T13:14:42 < karlp> data exfiltration stylee
2017-10-12T13:14:45 < emeryth> so you can do led debugging while you led debug?
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2017-10-12T13:14:59 < ohsix> sure
2017-10-12T13:15:32 < ohsix> but more like read error messages and shit from a device that only has an led as any interface and might be sealed or otherwise too hard to probe for it to be worth it
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2017-10-12T13:22:28 < ohsix> could also be used for junk like pairing, being close enough to the light implies physical presence
2017-10-12T13:24:52 < karlp> ohsix: I've not, but it's a totally reasonable thing to do
2017-10-12T13:25:20 < karlp> like my washsing machine has a speaker, and it can use it as a modem to communicate with an android app for debugging apparently.
2017-10-12T13:27:12 < zyp> karlp, LG?
2017-10-12T13:27:45 < karlp> yeah
2017-10-12T13:27:51 < zyp> I got the same
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2017-10-12T13:52:27 < Laurenceb> sheeet
2017-10-12T13:52:36 < Laurenceb> Russian grrrl hates me
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2017-10-12T13:52:50 < Laurenceb> I'm a dead man
2017-10-12T13:53:29 < jsoft> Mmmm russian chicks
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2017-10-12T13:54:13 < Laurenceb> >she spends week autisming over xls files for organising shit
2017-10-12T13:54:59 < Laurenceb> >I have ~400 line shell script to do same job which I wrote in 2014
2017-10-12T13:55:05 < Laurenceb> >she asks me for help
2017-10-12T13:55:19 < Laurenceb> >I stick script on my fileserver
2017-10-12T13:55:39 < Laurenceb> >she goes into complete meltdown cuz why didnt I help earlier
2017-10-12T13:56:14 < Laurenceb> autism intensifies
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2017-10-12T14:27:23 < karlp> Sign up now at a location near you: Germany, Israel, Italy, Switzerland, the Netherlands, France, United Kingdom, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Poland, and Ireland
2017-10-12T14:27:35 < karlp> they hate us zyp
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2017-10-12T14:33:26 < zyp> haha
2017-10-12T14:33:31 < Steffanx> What is this?
2017-10-12T14:33:36 < zyp> today's ST spam
2017-10-12T14:33:40 < zyp> about some workshop
2017-10-12T14:34:14 < Steffanx> Oh i get that email pretty late
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2017-10-12T14:39:45 < daey> Laurenceb: you blew it man
2017-10-12T14:40:02 < daey> that was the time to shine, assuming said gril was hot.
2017-10-12T14:59:19 < invzim> yay, TI samples working again
2017-10-12T14:59:47 < invzim> some bs about needing a .com email address
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2017-10-12T15:06:20 < BrainDamage> karlp: i guess they only consider you guys half european
2017-10-12T15:15:11 < karlp> well, one time they mailed me an f7 bord after I "unfortunately missed" being in person to one in europe somewhere :)
2017-10-12T15:25:25 < Steffanx> Free taxes added by icelandic customs?
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2017-10-12T15:34:14 < karlp> I think that one just got given over.
2017-10-12T15:34:18  * karlp doesn't remember anymore
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2017-10-12T15:54:49 <@englishman> hmm buttcoin is $5000
2017-10-12T15:56:54 < BrainDamage> I've heard they are planning to fork again
2017-10-12T16:00:00 < dongs> i just pumped crt a bit
2017-10-12T16:00:07 < dongs> wjere is he
2017-10-12T16:14:11 < dongs> Steffanx: in uk pumping
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2017-10-12T16:14:31 < Laurenceb> wew
2017-10-12T16:14:40 < Laurenceb> >be me
2017-10-12T16:14:50 < dongs> lo
2017-10-12T16:14:57 < Laurenceb> >go to meeting, deputy manager claims progress is slow
2017-10-12T16:15:17 < Laurenceb> > I show progress is order of magnitude faster than Gantt chart
2017-10-12T16:15:43 < Laurenceb> >deputy manager says "yeah but why not 100 pcbs ready by end of week"
2017-10-12T16:16:07 < Laurenceb> >no stencils and cant hand solder 0.4mm pitch lga
2017-10-12T16:16:29 < Laurenceb> >deputy manager "lulwut I could do that in 2 hours with hand iron"
2017-10-12T16:16:39 < Laurenceb> >ok so do it now
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2017-10-12T16:16:49 <@englishman> thats when you slap 100ukp on the table and grin slyly
2017-10-12T16:16:54 < zyp> haha
2017-10-12T16:16:56 < Laurenceb> >deputy manager "no thats what you are paid to do, do it"
2017-10-12T16:17:23 < Laurenceb> walkout out of meeting, was literally 3 seconds away from breaking his nose
2017-10-12T16:17:32 < Laurenceb> what a asshole
2017-10-12T16:17:40 <@englishman> sounds like a great work environment, yea
2017-10-12T16:17:53 < dongs> youre quite a pumper
2017-10-12T16:18:14 <@englishman> saying shit like that volunteers you for the job
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2017-10-12T16:19:00 < Laurenceb> tbh I think everyone else thinks he is an asshole too
2017-10-12T16:19:13 < dongs> gas laurence
2017-10-12T16:19:33 < Laurenceb> stupid office politics, he was prob just trying to get one up
2017-10-12T16:20:00 < dongs> ill be driving to london i3 hours
2017-10-12T16:20:04 < dongs> in
2017-10-12T16:20:08 < Laurenceb> wut
2017-10-12T16:20:13 < Laurenceb> ur in ukistan?
2017-10-12T16:20:16 < dongs> yes
2017-10-12T16:20:24 < dongs> in turbanham
2017-10-12T16:20:30 < Laurenceb> oh shit
2017-10-12T16:20:33 < Laurenceb> poor dongs
2017-10-12T16:20:37 < dongs> aka birmingham
2017-10-12T16:20:42 < Laurenceb> accurate
2017-10-12T16:20:47  * Laurenceb is in Nottingham
2017-10-12T16:20:50 < Laurenceb> aka shottingham
2017-10-12T16:21:28 < dongs> hey thats within driving distance
2017-10-12T16:21:43 < dongs> too bad i dont actually wanna meat up
2017-10-12T16:21:46  * Laurenceb wonders if its sane to meet dongs irl
2017-10-12T16:21:49 < Laurenceb> lulok
2017-10-12T16:22:01 < zyp> haha
2017-10-12T16:22:03 < dongs> nah im just busy
2017-10-12T16:22:40 < Laurenceb> I get to avoid being bundled into a car and eaten then
2017-10-12T16:23:24 < zyp> I'll be in London in two and a half week or so
2017-10-12T16:23:39 < Laurenceb> work or "pleasure"?
2017-10-12T16:24:00 < zyp> long weekend trip
2017-10-12T16:25:06 < dongs> in your electric dongmobile?
2017-10-12T16:25:15 < zyp> haha, no, I'm flying
2017-10-12T16:25:27 < Laurenceb> attn zyp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Norway#Current_law_.28Sexkj.C3.B8psloven.29
2017-10-12T16:25:36 < Laurenceb> The ban extends to Norwegians outside of Norway (extra territorial law).
2017-10-12T16:25:43 < Laurenceb> ur in jail dude
2017-10-12T16:25:56 < zyp> haha
2017-10-12T16:27:00 < zyp> I think I'll be fine, my gf is travelling with me
2017-10-12T16:27:33  * karlp thinks it's probable sane to meet dongs IRL, not really sure about meeeting lolrence
2017-10-12T16:27:34 < zyp> or I'm travelling with her or however that works, the trip was her idea
2017-10-12T16:28:20 < dongs> these clowns are taking me to stonedhedge tomorrow
2017-10-12T16:28:37 < dongs> waste of time
2017-10-12T16:33:25 <@englishman> but some of them look like dicks
2017-10-12T16:36:15 < Laurenceb> haha stonehenge
2017-10-12T16:36:23 < Laurenceb> enjoy ur ripoff entry fee
2017-10-12T16:37:01 < Laurenceb> tbh someone should try some SJW tricks at stonehenge "muh heritage is being appropriated and I'm being charged entry, literally slavery"
2017-10-12T16:39:54 < Laurenceb> wew the asshole is back shitposting on freenode
2017-10-12T16:40:02 < Laurenceb> so much for productivity
2017-10-12T16:42:19 < dongs> laurence/b/ i spent a total of 10gbp on this trip so far. and that wasnt eveb my $. i was given 100gbp "just in case"
2017-10-12T16:42:47 < dongs> these dickstarters rented a car for like 700$
2017-10-12T16:43:00 < dongs> and rich hotel and shit
2017-10-12T16:43:09 < dongs> im not paying for anything
2017-10-12T16:44:17 < Laurenceb> nice, literal kickstarters?
2017-10-12T16:45:27 < dongs> ya
2017-10-12T16:46:37 < Laurenceb> heh thats one way to get consultancy jerbs
2017-10-12T16:46:55 < dongs> so stonerhedge is like "we came all the way here might as well check the place out"
2017-10-12T16:47:02 < dongs> instead of you know, working
2017-10-12T16:47:26 < dongs> originly they wanted to just drive around europr for 3 days
2017-10-12T16:47:27 < Laurenceb> still better than the shit in London
2017-10-12T16:47:37 < dongs> before i told them the place is huge
2017-10-12T16:47:45 < Laurenceb> like London Dong-eon  or whatever that shit is
2017-10-12T16:48:29  * Laurenceb used to hang out at American Adventure but it closed down :(
2017-10-12T16:48:58 < Laurenceb> lel https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/American_Adventure1.jpg/220px-American_Adventure1.jpg
2017-10-12T16:51:09 < dongs> high quality image
2017-10-12T16:51:56 < Laurenceb> I literally can't think of any non shit tourist attractions in UK
2017-10-12T16:52:06 < Laurenceb> American Adventure was fun cuz it was shit
2017-10-12T16:52:15 < Laurenceb> birdemic of theme parks
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2017-10-12T16:53:02 < dale6998_> hello...after talking with you guys for awhile, i feel like a recovering drug addict...i'm trying to kick the HAL habit
2017-10-12T16:53:32 < Laurenceb> this is fun if ur a train nerd http://www.isengard.co.uk/
2017-10-12T16:54:32 < dale6998_> i'm looking at the reference manual, like a grown up, and i want to write something to the DMA register to disable the stream
2017-10-12T16:54:39 < dongs> from wht ive seen of uk so far it looks like a shithole
2017-10-12T16:54:55 < dongs> boring and cloudy and raining
2017-10-12T16:55:19 < dongs> dale6998_: i think its a bit in CR1
2017-10-12T16:55:23 < dale6998_> for the stm32f411, on pg 328, it talks about DMA_SxCR, and there's an enable bit that I can write to
2017-10-12T16:55:30 < dongs> Ya
2017-10-12T16:56:13 < dale6998_> dongs: ok...so, bit 0 is the EN bit, for Stream enable / flag stream ready when low
2017-10-12T16:56:27 < dale6998_> dongs: you're not feelin' good about that one?
2017-10-12T16:57:04 < Laurenceb> https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/10/11/211250/evidence-suggests-updated-timeline-towards-yellowstones-supervolcano-eruption
2017-10-12T16:57:04 < dale6998_> dongs: that looked like the nuclear option to shut it down...let me check on CR1
2017-10-12T16:57:08 < Laurenceb> murica btfo
2017-10-12T16:57:30 < dongs> dale6998_: no, im stoned. sxcr sounds rigjt
2017-10-12T16:58:22 < dale6998_> dongs: ok, good...i like both of those things
2017-10-12T16:58:56 < dale6998_> dongs: can you tell me HOW to write to these registers?  i'm just trying to do a simple test of touching that register like this:
2017-10-12T16:59:18 < dongs> just look how hal/stdperiph does it
2017-10-12T16:59:45 < dongs> DMA1_Stream5->CR = foo etx
2017-10-12T17:01:04 < karlp> fucking cloud jira just rolledout their new shitty version
2017-10-12T17:01:12 < dale6998_> dongs: ok, that's good..let me ask you this, though...how would you know, if you're on a desert island with just the reference manual and your codebase, how would you know about DMA1_Stream5?
2017-10-12T17:01:19 < dale6998_> dongs: how would you know that's a thing?
2017-10-12T17:03:27 < dongs> the header file
2017-10-12T17:03:34 < dongs> stm32f4xx.h
2017-10-12T17:03:40 < dongs> about 700k insize
2017-10-12T17:03:49 < dongs> that has all the shit you need
2017-10-12T17:04:27 < dale6998_> hello!  thanks!
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2017-10-12T17:34:16 < dale6998_> so, if i can write to DMA1_Stream0->CR, how would you read the last bit of that?
2017-10-12T17:34:35 < dale6998_> int x = DMA1_Stream0->CR; is a no go
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2017-10-12T17:35:07 < dale6998_> but, doesn't that equal a 32 bit register which is a number which can fit in an int?
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2017-10-12T17:36:40 <@englishman> in keil it is, but why not use modern c99 types and call it uint32_t
2017-10-12T17:36:42 < Thorn> while ((DMA_FOO->CR & DMA_SxCR_EN) ;;
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2017-10-12T17:36:58 < Thorn> what is the problem
2017-10-12T17:37:26 <@englishman> parens and semicolons?
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2017-10-12T17:39:01 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIpMT1mdsko
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2017-10-12T17:40:05 < tomeaton17> Lol why are so many people watching a cat being washed
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2017-10-12T17:42:30 < dale6998_> jesus christ, is it seriously an 'x' in there?
2017-10-12T17:43:05 < dale6998_> not a subscript?  i'm trying to write and find and search and track down DMA_S0CR->EN somewhere
2017-10-12T17:45:21 < dale6998_> Thorn: why does DMA1_Stream0 complain about macro expansion if I try to assign the CR register to a variable?
2017-10-12T17:45:43 < tomeaton17> Register details on pg 189 of RM0383
2017-10-12T17:45:59 < Thorn> what is your complete statement
2017-10-12T17:47:24 < dale6998_> Thorn: I want to sanity check my ability to read and write to these registers that I'm reading about in RM0090...I see a good one on pg 328 about DMA_SxCR, section 10.5.5
2017-10-12T17:48:00 < dale6998_> Thorn: So, I start looking for DMA_SxCR in a project that cube has made for me alerady, but I don't see it anywhere
2017-10-12T17:48:34 < dale6998_> Thorn: Writing to GPIO was as simple as GPIOC->ODR |= foo, so I thought I could do something similar here
2017-10-12T17:48:56 < Thorn> post the line of code that causes the error
2017-10-12T17:49:44 < dale6998_> Thorn: I found with help of dongs that I probably want DMA1_Stream0, but that's no good.
2017-10-12T17:49:56 < dale6998_> Thorn: x = DMA1_;
2017-10-12T17:50:02 < dale6998_> ugh...
2017-10-12T17:50:40 < dale6998_> Thorn: uint32_t x DMA1_Stream0->CR;
2017-10-12T17:50:49 < dale6998_> Thorn: uint32_t x = DMA1_Stream0->CR;
2017-10-12T17:51:01 < dale6998_> Thorn: sorry...my terminal/tmux copy paste skills are...weak
2017-10-12T17:51:14 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/9oiRGFK.gifv
2017-10-12T17:51:21 < upgrdman> golf looks like fun ^
2017-10-12T17:52:52 < tomeaton17> I agree https://i.redd.it/dhvwm2ir9bcy.gif
2017-10-12T17:53:30 < Thorn> and what is the error? DMA1_Stream0 is not defined?
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2017-10-12T17:56:40 < dale6998_> Thorn: error..initalizer element is not a constant
2017-10-12T17:57:30 < Thorn> wat
2017-10-12T17:57:32 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: are you not enabling c99?
2017-10-12T17:57:54 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: i dont know?
2017-10-12T17:58:02 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: -std=c99 for gcc
2017-10-12T17:58:21 <@englishman> Thorn: they have been defrosting that cat for a long ass time
2017-10-12T17:58:57 < tomeaton17> Its legs look kind of mangy..
2017-10-12T18:01:31 < dale6998_> englishman: ok, i added ccflags-y := -std=c99
2017-10-12T18:01:54 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: sorry!  ok, i added ccflags-y := -std=c99
2017-10-12T18:02:14 < dale6998_> englishman: sorry..i was mesmerized by your feline commentary
2017-10-12T18:02:29 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: and?
2017-10-12T18:02:51 <@englishman> well thats why allah invented multi-monitors, so you can watch cats while working
2017-10-12T18:04:37 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: oh, still fails...It says Drivers/CMSIS/Device/ST/STM32F4xx/Include/stm32f411xe.h:812:29: error: initializer element is not constant
2017-10-12T18:04:40 < dale6998_>  #define DMA1_Stream0        ((DMA_Stream_TypeDef *) DMA1_Stream0_BASE)
2017-10-12T18:05:22 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: can you please pastebin the full error message along with the compiler invocation line?
2017-10-12T18:05:42 < dale6998_> sure
2017-10-12T18:08:28 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: https://pastebin.com/RepxPYFK This is the source file that has the int x = DMA->CR....that's on line 54
2017-10-12T18:09:00 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: and, I'm just typing 'make' to get this thing compiled...i've posted the makefile here:  https://pastebin.com/7E2sYSL0
2017-10-12T18:09:05 < tomeaton17> Oh I think the problem is that you must assign it at runtime
2017-10-12T18:11:18 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: and the make output?
2017-10-12T18:11:52 < karlp> what world are you in that you edit "ccflags-y" ?
2017-10-12T18:11:54 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: I do not think your ccflags-y is used anyhow anywhere.
2017-10-12T18:12:00 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: just add that to OPT
2017-10-12T18:12:12 < PaulFertser> Hm, or not, it's passed to assembler too
2017-10-12T18:12:16 < karlp> what tool is this?
2017-10-12T18:12:20 < PaulFertser> Add to CFLAGS
2017-10-12T18:12:22 < karlp> "projectgenerator" ?
2017-10-12T18:13:41 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: https://pastebin.com/UEtv50YY
2017-10-12T18:14:41 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: see above
2017-10-12T18:14:44 < dale6998_> karlp: I have no idea man...i'm trying to pick this up from stack exchange, youtube, google, your help and datasheets
2017-10-12T18:14:57 < dale6998_> karlp: cubemx made this
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2017-10-12T18:16:39 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: ccflags-y := -std=c99
2017-10-12T18:17:05 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: lose that?
2017-10-12T18:17:35 < dale6998_> PaulFertser:  and change OPT = -0g -std=c99
2017-10-12T18:17:41 <@englishman> if you produce a completely blank new project in cube, export it to makefile project, and compile it without changing anything, does it compile?
2017-10-12T18:19:02 < dale6998_> englishman: oh yeah...it compiles fine if I comment out that uint32_t x = DMA1_Stream0->CR; line
2017-10-12T18:19:08 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: I'd add to CFLAGS instead, OPT is for optimisation level.
2017-10-12T18:19:50 <@englishman> but did you add that line or did cube?
2017-10-12T18:20:34 <@englishman> looks like its in user code block so i guess its you
2017-10-12T18:20:52 < PaulFertser> englishman: why you bother, the issue is obvious now I think?
2017-10-12T18:21:24 <@englishman> k
2017-10-12T18:21:53 < dale6998_> englishman: i did...
2017-10-12T18:22:06 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: ok, moved that -std=c99 to cflags
2017-10-12T18:23:31 < dale6998_> englishman: yes, i know it's something i'm probablyl doing wrong...my original question was how to put that register that i read about in the RM into a variable...seems like a simple task, but if you're a bonehead, it's a little more confusing than it seems
2017-10-12T18:24:22 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: so, with that in CFLAGS, what's the make output?
2017-10-12T18:26:07 < dale6998_> https://pastebin.com/XzH7wPfU
2017-10-12T18:26:25 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: https://pastebin.com/XzH7wPfU  .. still the same, but i do see the -std=c99 in there now
2017-10-12T18:27:23 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: oh my, it's a global variable
2017-10-12T18:27:30 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: that doesn't make sense indeed :)
2017-10-12T18:27:42 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: what's your intention there?
2017-10-12T18:28:18 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: who's a global variable?
2017-10-12T18:28:20 < PaulFertser> Yeah, so c99 is not related, and it's probably default in the gcc version you're using.
2017-10-12T18:28:26 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: your "x"
2017-10-12T18:29:03 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: that's illegal?  why?
2017-10-12T18:30:25 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: you are defining a global variable, it's initialised just once before your main() is executed. How can it make any sense to read that DMA bit there?
2017-10-12T18:32:37 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: i agree, but this was more just to make sure my syntax and mental model of how these registers are accessible through code was correct...I agree that it makes no sense, but i didn't expect it to be illegal
2017-10-12T18:34:18 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: well, now you know :)
2017-10-12T18:35:00 < tomeaton17> It must be initalised in execution time
2017-10-12T18:35:10 < tomeaton17> eg in main() function or similar
2017-10-12T18:35:17 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: thanks for helping me track that down...that would have been something i would never have thought of
2017-10-12T18:35:25 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: :)
2017-10-12T18:36:21 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: can you tell me what is happening under the hood that generates that error?  is it the order in which the compiler learns about DMA2_Stream0 vs. my global x variable?
2017-10-12T18:36:52 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: no, it's just that you can only use constants for globals.
2017-10-12T18:38:48 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: whooa...ok, that's sounds like a good google search..thanks
2017-10-12T18:39:16 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: i never expected it to be such a challenge to turn the DMA stream off and on !  haha
2017-10-12T18:39:35 < tomeaton17> dale6698_: Welcome to hal development!
2017-10-12T18:39:55 < tomeaton17> At least you don't have to manually set the registers
2017-10-12T18:40:37 < PaulFertser> dale6998_: it's not a challenge, it's just that you chose an absurd method to test it :)
2017-10-12T18:41:54 < dale6998_> PaulFertser: you know what...i think you're right!  :) ;)
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2017-10-12T18:48:17 < karlp> tomeaton17: they _are_ manually setting registers
2017-10-12T18:49:10 < tomeaton17> Ok
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2017-10-12T19:34:45 < Thorn> wtf pins on this ssop breakout are numbered clockwise
2017-10-12T19:35:00 < Thorn> best way to destroy your chip
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2017-10-12T19:36:34 < zyp> just mount the chip upside down
2017-10-12T19:45:23 < upgrdman> in altium, is there a quick way to find an item and add it's symbol/footprint?
2017-10-12T19:45:45 < upgrdman> like i need an rj45 with magnetics. searching on the altium design content web page is shit.
2017-10-12T19:45:56 < upgrdman> and too lazy to try and make my own footprint
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2017-10-12T19:50:57 < Steffanx> Easy quick way: make your own
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2017-10-12T20:01:45 < zyp> I have a footprint like that, you could steal it
2017-10-12T20:01:59 < zyp> should be in git://git.jvnv.net/altium_lib.git
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2017-10-12T20:02:20 < zyp> it fits the chinese hanrun magjact thing I used once
2017-10-12T20:04:31 <@englishman> hmm, PCBs pass etest, but the panel mousebites are too close to a via that's near an edge, so breaking pcbs away causes the via to fail between outer and inner layers, which causes complete qcfail only after stuffing boards
2017-10-12T20:05:25 < zyp> ouch
2017-10-12T20:07:21 <@englishman> also, swift is failing hard and will probably cost this company hundreds of thousands in delays
2017-10-12T20:07:55 <@englishman> i asked why they did not use neo-m8p: it does not have L2
2017-10-12T20:08:08 <@englishman> wonder if L2 precision is really that much better than multi-constellation
2017-10-12T20:08:22 <@englishman> of course if swift takes 30mins to lock, it doesnt really matter does it
2017-10-12T20:26:22 < Steffanx> Better buy some more edisons englishman
2017-10-12T20:29:14 < Steffanx> edison solves all problems
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2017-10-12T21:06:25 <@englishman> they will be arriving soon
2017-10-12T21:06:42 <@englishman> going to have a spooky edison halloween party
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2017-10-12T21:07:44 < Rob235> man I'm white... I got sunburn in mid-October
2017-10-12T21:08:11 < Steffanx> Haha Shrimpy.
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2017-10-12T21:58:16 < Cracki> aussie or just that white?
2017-10-12T21:58:33 < Cracki> wait, aussies never burn... but they do have summer in the winter
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2017-10-12T22:03:58 < Steffanx> He aint aussie. but yankee
2017-10-12T22:13:53 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKRFhtMVpSNjk1b1E/view?usp=sharing fukkin around
2017-10-12T22:14:01 < kakimir> in the workshop
2017-10-12T22:18:40 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKWmFqc0ZWMFl2cU0/view?usp=sharing lifted the door on it's hinges
2017-10-12T22:22:10 < Steffanx> nice reflector jacket.
2017-10-12T22:22:32 < kakimir> (sex)workwear
2017-10-12T22:23:21 < kakimir> referring to girls required to use reflector jackets
2017-10-12T22:23:28 < kakimir> *
2017-10-12T22:24:15 < Thorn> does it make sense to use MLCC @ up to 26-27V (on a buck input) given that the capacitance may be 20% of rated or something and they're probably about as expensive as electrolytics when rated  @ 50V?
2017-10-12T22:31:03 < Rob235> I'm a ginger in the US
2017-10-12T22:31:42 < kakimir> I'm gingerbeard
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2017-10-12T23:27:20 < metRo_> Hi all, I'm using a stm32f0x and want to trigger a ADC conversion on a timer event
2017-10-12T23:27:42 < metRo_> right I start the adc conversion on timer irq handler
2017-10-12T23:27:54 < metRo_> I want to know if I can do the same without any cpu
2017-10-12T23:28:13 < metRo_> page 192 of the document talks about that http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/reference_manual/cf/10/a8/c4/29/fb/4c/42/DM00091010.pdf/files/DM00091010.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00091010.pdf
2017-10-12T23:28:41 < metRo_> but I can't understand if I can use the timer TRGO only for input capture events
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2017-10-12T23:32:01 < karlp> the timer trigger outputs can trigger adc yes.
2017-10-12T23:32:12 < karlp> there's normally a table of which timer goes to which
2017-10-12T23:33:27 < karlp> what section of the ref man are you referring too?
2017-10-12T23:33:35 < karlp> I don't want to keep redownloading ref mans
2017-10-12T23:35:26 < ohsix> karlp: neat (the washing machine)
2017-10-12T23:35:53 < ohsix> bringing it up was part of me wondering if anything had done it, it's bound to be doign it somewhere but if you aren't walking around with a probe checking stuff you'd never know
2017-10-12T23:47:09 < karlp> kenmore connect h as been doing it long enough for it to have been on feature phones even
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2017-10-13T00:02:38 < ohsix> on a few cars the check engine light will happen to flash fast codes, but you don't read them by the light
2017-10-13T00:02:57 < ohsix> it just goes to the diagnostic connector
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2017-10-13T00:39:52 < upgrdman> Thorn, pretty sure the MLCCs would be more expensive than some electrolytics
2017-10-13T00:40:40 < upgrdman> i'd prolly use a few MLCCs for their lower ESL, and then one or more electrolytics for bulk capacitance.
2017-10-13T00:41:17 < upgrdman> but if price isnt an issue, fuck ya, MLCC-all-the-things. if nothing else, theyre not polarized to pcb assy is easier
2017-10-13T00:41:25 < upgrdman> s/to/so
2017-10-13T00:42:23 < Thorn> mlcc + electrolytics on the input? isn't that overkill
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2017-10-13T00:42:41 < upgrdman> Thorn, well you want low impedence on the input to your SMPS
2017-10-13T00:43:31 < upgrdman> i suppose if the input already has super low impedence, like a lipo battery, than maybe just a few MLCCs to compensate for parasitic inductance
2017-10-13T00:43:39 < Thorn> I understand on the output low esr = low ripple without huge caps, is it as important on the input
2017-10-13T00:44:10 < Thorn> the power source is 12/24V over a long cable
2017-10-13T00:44:17 < upgrdman> its not super critical, but ya... you want power to flow when the transistor switches... impedence will slow that down
2017-10-13T00:44:57 < upgrdman> watch some youtube videos on SMPS design. like the FIRST thing those dildos draw on the white board is the input capacitance
2017-10-13T00:45:36 < Thorn> most theoretical lectures omit input caps completely
2017-10-13T00:46:40 < Thorn> I guess videos made by component manufacturers could be different
2017-10-13T00:50:26 < Thorn> I wonder how efficient electrolytics are in general in a 1MHz+ converter
2017-10-13T00:51:05 < Thorn> my lcr meter doesn't show any capacitance @ over 1kHz for those
2017-10-13T00:52:52 <@englishman> just keep putting caps until you go overbudget, then take some out
2017-10-13T00:54:40 < Thorn> I'm already over budget even before ordering the pcb lol
2017-10-13T00:55:37 <@englishman> another kickstarter fail? :(
2017-10-13T00:56:44 <@englishman> really tho some bulk capacitance in electrolytic and some high frequency ceramic caps (derated a ton due to your bias voltage yeah) is typical no?
2017-10-13T01:00:17 < Thorn> if you say so
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2017-10-13T01:00:44 < Thorn> I hope a ~1uF 50V is cheap
2017-10-13T01:01:30 < Thorn> or is that too small
2017-10-13T01:01:37 < Thorn> in // with electrolytics that is
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2017-10-13T01:05:32 <@englishman> they exist in 0805
2017-10-13T01:06:29 <@englishman> get x7r for that dcbias
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2017-10-13T01:10:39 <@englishman> Y5V https://i.imgur.com/0rCPRja.png
2017-10-13T01:10:39 <@englishman> X7R https://i.imgur.com/dnVQ8zg.png
2017-10-13T01:11:23 < sync> better use c0g
2017-10-13T01:14:29 < Thorn> y not film then
2017-10-13T01:25:16 < ohsix> der8
2017-10-13T02:26:42 < aandrew> huh
2017-10-13T02:27:01 < aandrew> those bias curves show that you lose most of your rated capacitance at rated voltage
2017-10-13T02:27:20 < aandrew> I keep seeing/hearing conflicting reports on this
2017-10-13T02:30:43 < ohsix> at a certain frequency
2017-10-13T02:30:53 < ohsix> difference in impedance
2017-10-13T02:31:15 < ohsix> x7r and stuff are dielectric formulations
2017-10-13T02:34:58 < aandrew> yes I'm well aware
2017-10-13T02:35:25 < aandrew> but the dielectric specs like X7R/Y5V have nothing to do with bias
2017-10-13T02:35:52 < aandrew> and in fact this only really became a problem with some of the new funky dielectrics which are being used to cram 10uF into an 0805 MLCC
2017-10-13T02:36:11 < aandrew> they still match the dielectric spec but have godawful dc bias issues
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2017-10-13T02:48:45 <@englishman> yep
2017-10-13T02:49:10 <@englishman> but it still *kinda* holds that y5v is crappier than x7r in more than just temp performance
2017-10-13T02:49:31 < aandrew> well you changed all three parameters
2017-10-13T02:49:37 < aandrew> 5/7 is the temp characteristic
2017-10-13T02:49:53 < aandrew> there is almost no difference between X5R and X7R
2017-10-13T02:50:09 < aandrew> the X7R just maintains spec to 125C
2017-10-13T02:50:10 <@englishman> right
2017-10-13T02:50:21 <@englishman> but if buying x5r why not just buy x7r
2017-10-13T02:50:22 < aandrew> Y5V is one of the shittiest capacitor dielectrics you can buy
2017-10-13T02:51:03 <@englishman> like i already have so man reels its becoming a problem
2017-10-13T02:51:05 < aandrew> englishman: generally it comes down to availablility. you might find a 33uF 16V (to pull a value out of my ass) in X5R but X7R
2017-10-13T02:51:06 <@englishman> may
2017-10-13T02:51:08 <@englishman> many
2017-10-13T02:51:55 <@englishman> oh yeah. sometimes. but i havent had an application yet where i need to discern between x5r and x7r
2017-10-13T02:52:15 < aandrew> same
2017-10-13T02:52:20 < aandrew> actually no
2017-10-13T02:52:21 < aandrew> I did have one
2017-10-13T02:52:23 < aandrew> and only one
2017-10-13T02:52:26 <@englishman> rlly
2017-10-13T02:52:30 <@englishman> huge volume?
2017-10-13T02:52:36 < aandrew> it was for a temp+humi sensor that had to go in to a furnace
2017-10-13T02:53:17 < aandrew> had to use a shitty Kinetis CPU too that was rated for 125C
2017-10-13T02:53:20 < aandrew> god I hated that fucking chip
2017-10-13T02:53:33 <@englishman> at
2017-10-13T02:53:34 <@englishman> least
2017-10-13T02:53:35 <@englishman> its
2017-10-13T02:53:35 <@englishman> not
2017-10-13T02:53:36 <@englishman> 40C
2017-10-13T02:53:37 <@englishman> rated
2017-10-13T02:53:38 <@englishman> EDISON
2017-10-13T02:53:51 <@englishman> seriously there is an EDISON in mexico right now that they cant do shit with
2017-10-13T02:53:55 < aandrew> the PICs we were using before had an odd failure mode where it seemed some of the bondwire would pop off with the heat, then as it cooled would come odwn and make contact again
2017-10-13T02:54:10 < aandrew> the place I was working at had an xray inspection machine you could see it :-)
2017-10-13T02:54:19 < aandrew> lol edison
2017-10-13T02:54:21 <@englishman> heh, cool
2017-10-13T02:54:27 < sync> yeah, that is not too uncommon tho
2017-10-13T02:54:30 < aandrew> well cool wasn't the problem. hot was. :-)
2017-10-13T02:54:41 <@englishman> the cool part is seeing it imo
2017-10-13T02:54:45 < aandrew> yep
2017-10-13T02:54:54 <@englishman> pro diagnosis
2017-10-13T02:55:04 <@englishman> did you see my mousebite thing today
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2017-10-13T02:57:41 < ohsix> if i had a choice between period and frequency of some slow shit, like an animation; period is the way to go rite?//
2017-10-13T02:57:55 < ohsix> 'how many ms until this repeats'
2017-10-13T02:58:13 < ohsix> instead of frequency
2017-10-13T02:58:40 < ohsix> trying to do a dumb thing but not finding a cool way to do it
2017-10-13T03:00:56 < aandrew> englishman: no what mousebite thing
2017-10-13T03:01:05 < aandrew> ohsix: generally yes
2017-10-13T03:01:06 < Cracki> time is always better than 1/time
2017-10-13T03:01:10 <@englishman> panellized design, via close to mousebites
2017-10-13T03:01:14 < aandrew> depends on what you're doing
2017-10-13T03:01:16 <@englishman> pcb passes etest, gets stuffed
2017-10-13T03:01:23 < aandrew> what makes more sense, 60hz or 8.3ms?
2017-10-13T03:01:26 < aandrew> depends on what you're doing
2017-10-13T03:01:31 <@englishman> breaking panels apart causes via to open between layers 3 and 4
2017-10-13T03:01:37 < ohsix> i wanna keep the samplers stateless but then they end up with a ton of parameters and can't think of a nice way to stuff it into a struct
2017-10-13T03:01:37 < aandrew> oh jesus
2017-10-13T03:01:45 < Cracki> miles per gallon ;)
2017-10-13T03:01:53 < aandrew> via too close to mousebite?
2017-10-13T03:01:56 <@englishman> yeah
2017-10-13T03:02:03 < ohsix> i wanna pass t or an alpha so i can mess with stuff on the basis of the timebase being changed
2017-10-13T03:02:16 < aandrew> englishman: those kinds of issues are hard to catch 100% of the time
2017-10-13T03:02:34 <@englishman> well now i have to take a dremel to 150 panels
2017-10-13T03:02:38 <@englishman> oh well
2017-10-13T03:02:46 < Cracki> pcb scissors
2017-10-13T03:03:48 < sync> table saw with carbide wheel
2017-10-13T03:03:51 < Cracki> ^
2017-10-13T03:04:03 < aandrew> huh, I just realized eevblog has mathml (mathjax) support
2017-10-13T03:04:06 < aandrew> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/difference-between-phase-response-and-group-delay/?topicseen
2017-10-13T03:04:14 < aandrew> was like "oh man that's pretty"
2017-10-13T03:04:44 < aandrew> there are nice hand tools for notching PCBs specifically for depanelization
2017-10-13T03:05:01 <@englishman> i saw a desktop one today
2017-10-13T03:05:10 <@englishman> two precision cutting wheels and guides etc
2017-10-13T03:05:17 <@englishman> must have been from 1970, it had that colour
2017-10-13T03:10:57 < aandrew> haha I know that one
2017-10-13T03:11:02 < aandrew> local board house has it
2017-10-13T03:11:17 < aandrew> circular blades, cuts through FR4 like a hot knife thorugh butter
2017-10-13T03:11:23 < aandrew> I would *not* want to get my finger caught in that
2017-10-13T03:11:45 < aandrew> they also have a really nice german wire cutter/stripper
2017-10-13T03:11:50 < aandrew> good god that saves so much time
2017-10-13T03:12:57 < aandrew> you can set it up where you want 15 bundles where each bundle has 3 10cm wires stripped on one side only, 11 22cm wires stripped on both ends and 1 11cm wire stripped on side and partially-stripped (insulation not completely pulled off) on the other
2017-10-13T03:13:07 < aandrew> does it all, detects when there's a misfeed and doesn't lose track
2017-10-13T03:13:13 < Cracki> oh, automatic?
2017-10-13T03:13:24 < aandrew> I keep watching for them on ebay but only see chinese ones that I woudn't want to buy without a good return policy
2017-10-13T03:13:35 < aandrew> yep fully automatic. only thing it doesn't have is a PC interface
2017-10-13T03:13:40 < Cracki> hm
2017-10-13T03:13:48 < aandrew> it doesn't have a printer either which would be amazeballs
2017-10-13T03:13:56 < aandrew> i.e. print identifier on the wire itself
2017-10-13T03:13:58 < Cracki> would be worthwhile to have one such beast in town and someone selling its services.
2017-10-13T03:14:01 < sync> a tape strip dispenser is also one of the most useful things ever
2017-10-13T03:14:12 < aandrew> Cracki: possibly yes
2017-10-13T03:14:16 < Cracki> ROI and such
2017-10-13T03:14:28 < aandrew> I know that any panel shop worth its salt has a few in house
2017-10-13T03:14:37 < Cracki> btw, dirtypcb makes cables too
2017-10-13T03:14:43 < aandrew> usually the ones that will either auto-crimp ferrules and/or print labels on the wires too
2017-10-13T03:14:58 < Cracki> http://dirtypcbs.com/store/cables
2017-10-13T03:15:18 < Cracki> friend of mine ordered some, they were up to spec
2017-10-13T03:16:12 < aandrew> bootlace ferrules are another one of those oft-misunderstood and underappreciated components
2017-10-13T03:16:54 < sync> yes, I have a knipex crimper for them
2017-10-13T03:17:04 < sync> they are basically worthless without a proper crimp tool
2017-10-13T03:20:06 < Cracki> I love those things
2017-10-13T03:20:18 < Cracki> decent ends no other way
2017-10-13T03:20:33 < Cracki> and for high currents, you aren't supposed to use solder anyway
2017-10-13T03:22:31 < sync> you are never supposed to use solder
2017-10-13T03:22:41 < sync> to terminate wire ends
2017-10-13T03:24:01 < Cracki> that too
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2017-10-13T05:11:14 < upgrdman> anyone have one of those fancy power banks with adjustable dc output for charging laptops?
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2017-10-13T08:52:50 < ohsix> hm, problem
2017-10-13T08:53:23 < ohsix> i bought a usb cable last year or something from ebay or ali; and it's a good cable (low voltage drop and shit) and i want to get some more but can't find the order or anything lul
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2017-10-13T09:32:05 < ohsix> [7]: re: aliexpress thing, being able to right click or otherwise get the url to the big images would be handy
2017-10-13T09:32:27 < ohsix> i fish them out of the inspector but it's a lot of work
2017-10-13T09:34:05 < ohsix> https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1jUrYLXXXXXXhXFXXq6xXFXXXY/500pcs-lot-2M-6ft-Fabric-Nylon-Braided-Micro-usb-cable-Accessory-Bundles-For-Samsung-for-HTC.jpg these look exactly like the 1 i have, packaged the same too, nice. thought it would take a lot of time to find
2017-10-13T09:41:45 < invzim> this is kind of interesting, https://github.com/facebookarchive/RiftDK2
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2017-10-13T09:41:57 < invzim> full altium source
2017-10-13T09:45:02 < invzim> he main board is 2 layer, thatæs kind of a surprise
2017-10-13T09:56:33 <@englishman> >The cable is surprisingly one of the most complex parts of the product, and is likely actually more advanced than the entirety of DK1.
2017-10-13T09:56:54 <@englishman> BOM shows some load switches and stuff...
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2017-10-13T11:05:21 < jsoft> Hello there peoples
2017-10-13T11:05:25 < jsoft> Hey has anyone here diddled with the IIR DSP filters at here: http://www.iowahills.com/A7ExampleCodePage.html per chance?
2017-10-13T11:10:10 < c10ud> jsoft, for IIR you can try http://engineerjs.com/?sidebar=docs/iir.html
2017-10-13T11:10:21 < c10ud> I didnt try that page you linked though
2017-10-13T11:15:12 < jsoft> c10ud, hmm
2017-10-13T11:16:59 < jsoft> Any other suggestions? I am mostly needing a known working IIR filter algorithm
2017-10-13T11:17:20 < jsoft> I've used the one given in the doofer, modified to use adc input and dac output, but im getting zero output
2017-10-13T11:22:50 < c10ud> jsoft, could be anything from design to implementation, I suggest you start by trying a known working configuration first
2017-10-13T11:23:06 < jsoft> c10ud, well... that's what I am trying to find
2017-10-13T11:34:31 < ohsix> send in the diracs
2017-10-13T11:34:56 < ohsix> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_biquad_filter
2017-10-13T11:54:16 < ohsix> h3h free textbook _with_ lab manual https://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/eecs20/
2017-10-13T11:54:18 < ohsix> ack
2017-10-13T11:54:21 < ohsix> http://leevaraiya.org/
2017-10-13T11:55:52 < jsoft> ohsix, to be investimagated, cheers
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2017-10-13T12:06:00 < jsoft> http://www.iowahills.com/Example%20Code/IIRNthOrderImplementation.txt --> http://www.paste.org/87178. Anything captain obviously wrong about that translation?
2017-10-13T12:07:05 < qyx> yes, xss=removed
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2017-10-13T12:09:04 < jsoft> xss ?
2017-10-13T12:11:50 < qyx> paste.org apparentnyl changed the code
2017-10-13T12:11:56 < qyx> denomcode[0] should be 1?
2017-10-13T12:12:04 < qyx> *denomcoeff
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2017-10-13T12:14:49 < qyx> what should this line mean
2017-10-13T12:14:53 < qyx> for(j=0; j<REG xss=removed xss=removed for(j=0; for(k=N;>0; k--) {
2017-10-13T12:15:50 < qyx> also, unreadable
2017-10-13T12:16:03 < qyx> why are you initializing j = 0 in both fors?
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2017-10-13T12:23:07 < jsoft> qyx, this is a copy of the prior code
2017-10-13T12:23:56 < jsoft> *sigh*
2017-10-13T12:24:00 < jsoft> Stupid ass fpastebin.
2017-10-13T12:24:04 < jsoft> I'll get a real one
2017-10-13T12:24:43 < jsoft> Ok here: https://pastebin.com/0yVG6v6x
2017-10-13T12:28:26 < qyx> what is the return type of the adc_get():
2017-10-13T12:29:56 < jsoft> short
2017-10-13T12:31:15 < qyx> if the range is 0-255, then you subtract 128
2017-10-13T12:31:19 < qyx> so you get at most 127
2017-10-13T12:31:27 < qyx> and divide it by 128, you always get 0
2017-10-13T12:42:01 < Thorn> why is there a chapter on state machines in a signals&systems textbook
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2017-10-13T13:00:34 < jadew> Thorn, possibly for dealing with discrete time signals?
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2017-10-13T13:05:28 < tomeaton17> Would generate a random number from adc reading from a floating pin be cryptographically secure?
2017-10-13T13:06:49 < zyp> no
2017-10-13T13:06:54 < Thorn> absolutely not
2017-10-13T13:07:22 < zyp> undefined != random
2017-10-13T13:08:19 < tomeaton17> How is it undefined?
2017-10-13T13:08:28 < BrainDamage> also not RNG are equal, there's properties which are required in crypto RNG
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2017-10-13T13:09:16 < tendie-mobile> Good morning.
2017-10-13T13:09:47 < BrainDamage> it's undefined because it's potential is a function of the initial state, which is not known ( and all the induced noise )
2017-10-13T13:10:10 < BrainDamage> and the internal wiring
2017-10-13T13:10:12 < tendie-mobile> Has anyone ever used llvm/clang over gcc in embedded development?
2017-10-13T13:10:48 < tomeaton17> So you can predict the noise?
2017-10-13T13:10:55 < zyp> tendie-mobile, given the broadness of the question: yes
2017-10-13T13:11:00 < tendie-mobile> Yes.
2017-10-13T13:11:22 < tendie-mobile> Well I am satisfied.
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2017-10-13T13:11:30 < BrainDamage> I've tried once 2 years ago or so
2017-10-13T13:11:45 < zyp> haha
2017-10-13T13:12:07 < qyx> tomeaton17: from a practical point of view, using some well known prng and feeding it from a external source of noise through the adc is fine
2017-10-13T13:12:16 < BrainDamage> nice, one can appreciate the honesty
2017-10-13T13:12:32 < qyx> in every case, your code will have that many other bugs, that a random number generated in that way is sufficient
2017-10-13T13:13:00 < BrainDamage> daily shitpost pic https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ripvanvinkl_rnd/44119327/174307/174307_600.jpg
2017-10-13T13:13:03 < qyx> from a strict point of view, there is hardly any good source of randomness
2017-10-13T13:13:28 < BrainDamage> the first rule of crypto is don't roll your own crypto
2017-10-13T13:14:16 < qyx> it depends on your use case, if you want to generate ephemeral keys for tls for example to hide your internet traffic, its fine
2017-10-13T13:14:25 < qyx> because nobody will even bother disclosing it
2017-10-13T13:14:32 < qyx> and there is no physical access to your device
2017-10-13T13:15:03 < BrainDamage> assuming that nothing will attack makes the point kinda moot, might as well xor it with a counter
2017-10-13T13:15:17 < zyp> haha
2017-10-13T13:15:19 < qyx> and if anyone wanted to know your traffic, they will beat you with a hammer
2017-10-13T13:15:30 < karlp> jsoft: did you consider just using the arm cmsis dsp routines? they have IIR filters: http://www.keil.com/pack/doc/CMSIS/DSP/html/group__BiquadCascadeDF1.html
2017-10-13T13:16:13 < qyx> I mean, for a diy project withouth a considerable impact on others, just use whatever works
2017-10-13T13:16:19 < tomeaton17> Many other bugs? :( Ok thanks for the info I will probably just use /dev/urandom
2017-10-13T13:16:21 < qyx> if you want to make it good, use hardware rng
2017-10-13T13:17:05 < qyx> the whole crypto world is screwed anyway nowadays
2017-10-13T13:17:47 < zyp> how so?
2017-10-13T13:18:17 < qyx> many disclosures in the recent years
2017-10-13T13:18:23 < qyx> so basically you are not able to follow
2017-10-13T13:19:38 < qyx> do your best, but be prepared that one day some will break it eventually
2017-10-13T13:21:15 < tomeaton17> Ok I hope someone else will do the cryptography stuff
2017-10-13T13:40:01 < jsoft> karlp, I don't have keil
2017-10-13T13:44:42 < karlp> you don't need to
2017-10-13T13:44:46 < karlp> that's just the docs
2017-10-13T13:45:30 < karlp> https://github.com/ARM-software/CMSIS_5/tree/develop/CMSIS/DSP for instance...
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2017-10-13T14:05:50 < jsoft> karlp, is that just a pull and use ?
2017-10-13T14:06:18 < karlp> if you have cmsis from somewhere else, just go look in your source package, it's probably already there
2017-10-13T14:06:40 < karlp> I can't/won't help with your build environment though
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2017-10-13T14:08:30 < karlp> writing high order iirs like that iowa hills thing looks complicated and error prone.
2017-10-13T14:08:51 < karlp> writing a 1/2 order iir by hand is easy, and you can just chain them.
2017-10-13T14:11:42 < jsoft> Hmm
2017-10-13T14:12:13 < jsoft> karlp, I would have thought using their own code would result in some form of success
2017-10-13T14:12:22 < jsoft> ( iowa hills )
2017-10-13T14:12:37 < karlp> sure, if you have some desire to use them,
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2017-10-13T14:43:23 < jsoft> this might be one of those 'have to learn it properly' situations
2017-10-13T14:43:35 < jsoft> Instead of 'yeah for shits and giggles I thought I might make IIR work'
2017-10-13T14:43:46 < jsoft> FIR seems very straight forward
2017-10-13T14:43:51 < jsoft> Made it work on integers
2017-10-13T14:43:56 < jsoft> No FPU
2017-10-13T14:44:04 < jsoft> but this damn IIR is a penis
2017-10-13T14:45:23 < karlp> heh, I think of it ias the other way around
2017-10-13T14:46:21 < zyp> Steffanx, now I'm getting rich off the bitcoin you sent me the other day
2017-10-13T14:46:33 < zyp> it's $1.7 up, so far
2017-10-13T14:49:24 < tomeaton17> Bitcoin is sooo volatile
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2017-10-13T15:01:51 < Steffanx> Haha. Better go out for dinner with your gf zyp
2017-10-13T15:02:04 < Steffanx> Paid by "a dutch guy"
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2017-10-13T15:06:23 < zyp> I think I'll have to let them increase in value some more then :p
2017-10-13T15:13:18 < qyx> https://hakshop.com/collections/hak5-field-kits/products/hak5-elite-field-kit
2017-10-13T15:13:19 < qyx> lulz
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2017-10-13T15:48:16 < Cracki_> >elite
2017-10-13T15:48:21 < karlp> jsoft: here http://www.eedesignnewseurope.com/news/automatic-generation-cmsis-dsp-code-filters-arm-toolset?news_id=99060
2017-10-13T15:48:21 < Cracki_> buncha flash drives
2017-10-13T15:48:31 < karlp> they're not really flash drives...
2017-10-13T15:48:44 < karlp> those are fairly interesting hardware really, though the hype and marketting is a bit much
2017-10-13T15:49:15 < karlp> well, interesting software really, the hardware isn't particularly fancy
2017-10-13T15:50:42 < Rob235> HII
2017-10-13T15:50:50 < Cracki_> I find that dsp gui thingy very interesting
2017-10-13T15:51:52 < karlp> only 700 euro
2017-10-13T16:36:01 < Steffanx> Sky.
2017-10-13T16:53:35 < tomeaton17> LaTeX is amazing you're in for a good time
2017-10-13T17:07:59 < PaulFertser> What about TikZ?
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2017-10-13T17:12:31 < dongs> where is stvn
2017-10-13T17:13:29 < dongs> http://i.imgur.com/8R4UBrM.jpg
2017-10-13T17:15:08 < karlp> PaulFertser: isn't tikz just tex anyway?
2017-10-13T17:15:41 < BrainDamage> tikz is a package for latex to do vector graphics, but unless your drawing is extremely regular, it's a chore to translate in code
2017-10-13T17:16:16 < BrainDamage> drawing with a vector editor, export to eps and then just import for free hand drawing is less effort for most of the tasks
2017-10-13T17:17:17 < kakimir> how do I install used split AC unit?
2017-10-13T17:17:35 < kakimir> I have vacuum pump but I'm not sure if to buy even gauge set
2017-10-13T17:17:59 < PaulFertser> BrainDamage: how about matching fonts and sizes with that eps way?
2017-10-13T17:18:10 < kakimir> how are indoor unit and lines vacuumed?
2017-10-13T17:18:14 < zyp> kakimir, I think you need the gauge set
2017-10-13T17:18:17 < BrainDamage> PaulFertser: not a problem because my editor supports running latex
2017-10-13T17:18:47 < PaulFertser> BrainDamage: so what happens? Do you embed text to be processed with latex later when it includes eps?
2017-10-13T17:18:52 < zyp> kakimir, and possibly more refrigerant, since at least some were lost when it were disassembled at its previous location
2017-10-13T17:19:37 < BrainDamage> if i want, yes, most of the times i just draw the strict minimum and import
2017-10-13T17:19:44 < zyp> when the units are new, they usually come pre-filled, so only the lines needs to be vacuumed
2017-10-13T17:21:38 < BrainDamage> i will still use tikz if the drawing is regular btw
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2017-10-13T17:23:19 < kakimir> what else do I need vacuum then when it's used?
2017-10-13T17:23:53 < zyp> kakimir, what are you trying to ask?
2017-10-13T17:25:33 < kakimir> basically situation is same than when using new one.. there is gas in the outdoor unit
2017-10-13T17:26:17 < kakimir> if it works even 80% efficiency compared to adding gas to it I will not add gas
2017-10-13T17:26:36 < zyp> so?
2017-10-13T17:27:11 < kakimir> I want to cut corners and install it myself best I can and with as little as I can
2017-10-13T17:27:52 < kakimir> so it has ports for the lines to vacuum them when lines are in place without vacuuming the outdoor unit?
2017-10-13T17:27:54 < dongs> kikemir wants to get gassed
2017-10-13T17:28:05 < dongs> y/y/y
2017-10-13T17:28:19 < zyp> kakimir, gauge set hooks up to service ports on the HP/LP sides
2017-10-13T17:28:30 < zyp> vacuum pump hooks up to gauge set
2017-10-13T17:28:57 < zyp> so you hook that up and empty out the lines, then open the valves between the units and the lines
2017-10-13T17:29:22 < zyp> gauges should then also tell you if there's enough gas in the system
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2017-10-13T17:49:07 < kakimir> okay
2017-10-13T17:49:22 < kakimir> is it linear with the pressure?
2017-10-13T17:49:36 < kakimir> amount of gas inside?
2017-10-13T17:50:17 < kakimir> does it all evoporate when valves are opened?
2017-10-13T17:51:43 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: I use asymptote instead of tikz
2017-10-13T17:52:16 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: interesting, thnks for the pointer.
2017-10-13T17:54:49 < tomeaton17> I still use tikz, but asymptote is much better for figures that are mathematically defined
2017-10-13T18:06:00 < Laurenceb> I'm failing at c
2017-10-13T18:06:02 < Laurenceb> warning: assignment makes integer from pointer without a cast
2017-10-13T18:06:24 < Laurenceb> LIS3MDL_datacallback=(uint8_t*)receivedata;
2017-10-13T18:06:35 < Laurenceb> but LIS3MDL_datacallback is a uint8_t*
2017-10-13T18:06:41 < Laurenceb> where did I fail?
2017-10-13T18:07:44 < kakimir> oh there is needle vents in those ports zyp?
2017-10-13T18:08:13 < kakimir> and I can not just throw rubber hose to them
2017-10-13T18:20:53 < Thorn> friend learning how to use his oscilloscope https://i.imgur.com/Y2M3kOB.jpg
2017-10-13T18:21:30 < Thorn> and ardweeno :/
2017-10-13T18:22:20 < tomeaton17> cccp branded scope! What is that symbol that looks like a cat with no eyes
2017-10-13T18:22:21 <@englishman> its kitten-brand oscope?
2017-10-13T18:22:46 < Thorn> dunno, must be factory logo
2017-10-13T18:22:59 < Fleck> cccp is not a brand!
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2017-10-13T18:23:15 <@englishman> in mother russia, we so poor, we must find lolcats in industrial equipment
2017-10-13T18:23:51 < karlp> that's not an oscilloscope, that's an oshillograph
2017-10-13T18:24:28 < tomeaton17> I didn't say its a brand! I said it was branded :p
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2017-10-13T18:24:49 < tomeaton17> lol animescope
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2017-10-13T18:26:23 < tomeaton17> I saw someone made supermariobros for a scope
2017-10-13T18:26:29 < tomeaton17> with an stm32 I think actually
2017-10-13T18:26:54 < karlp> is it time for mushrooms again? I think it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtR63-ecUNo
2017-10-13T18:28:17 < tomeaton17> Yeah here was the project https://www.reddit.com/r/electronics/comments/706dew/i_made_a_mario_clone_run_in_an_oscilloscope_using/
2017-10-13T18:29:30 <@englishman> wow, 16
2017-10-13T18:29:54 < tomeaton17> Yeah its a pretty amazing project
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2017-10-13T18:37:12 < karlp> well, shit, where do I sign up "IoT Programming with Basic for iOS"
2017-10-13T18:42:34 < Cracki_> I wonder whether the beam of a scope can be switched on and off fast enough to just apply saw teeth to the x and y
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2017-10-13T18:43:06 < Cracki_> haven't seen a scope yet with that input capability, but I haven't seen many scopes either
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2017-10-13T20:35:18 < jpa-> Cracki_: many scopes do have a brightness input on back, so yeah, you can make a scope into a crappy CRT
2017-10-13T20:35:55 < jpa-> (crappy as in, the resolution isn't really that great, and it is green on black :)
2017-10-13T20:36:09 < Cracki_> hmmmmm
2017-10-13T20:36:38 < jpa-> looks like that is exactly what it is doing
2017-10-13T20:37:29 <@englishman> https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/vishay-semiconductor-opto-division/VLCS5830/VLCS5830-ND/4073503
2017-10-13T20:37:34 <@englishman> 65,000 mcd? really?
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2017-10-13T20:37:51 <@englishman> how bright do you think that would be relatively
2017-10-13T20:38:01 < jpa-> about 65 candles
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2017-10-13T20:38:28 <@englishman> jpa, i love nanopb, just fyi
2017-10-13T20:38:31 < jpa-> but do note that it is only 8 degrees wide beam
2017-10-13T20:38:59 < jpa-> englishman: i have heard so a few times already, but i'm not really sure it's worth all that love :P
2017-10-13T20:40:09 < BrainDamage> english: s it's about the same as a household lightbulb
2017-10-13T20:40:52 < BrainDamage> but a household lightbulb illuminates almost isotropically
2017-10-13T20:40:59 < BrainDamage> that thing is a narrow beam
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2017-10-13T20:41:22 < EnglishCanuck> Hi englishman
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2017-10-13T21:41:51 < Cracki_> that thing is as bright as a household lightbulb within its beam only
2017-10-13T21:44:02 < Cracki_> also those are mcd, so 65 cd.
2017-10-13T21:44:26 < Cracki_> so according to the wikipedia example, that's about a 12 watt compact flourescent light bulb
2017-10-13T21:45:48 < Cracki_> it is a very bright LED though
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2017-10-13T22:21:51 < Thorn> how many mV will a cheap pcb mount electret mike produce at ~90dB SPL?
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2017-10-13T22:25:23 < dale6998> how do i initiate a single DMA transfer from the ADC1 on an F411?
2017-10-13T22:26:06 < zyp> just like you would do a multi-transfer job, just with job size set to 1
2017-10-13T22:27:05 < dale6998> what do you mean multi-transfer job?  i've got it set up to run in continuous conversion mode with continuous dma requests
2017-10-13T22:27:29 < zyp> so what are you really asking?
2017-10-13T22:28:44 < dale6998> alright, i've got a DMA2_Stream0 and ADC1, channels 1-5 set up to do a continuous transfer, as fast as possible i guess, to a uint32_t array ADCValues[]
2017-10-13T22:29:30 < dale6998> I need to sample these in a timer interrupt and then decide on if I want to increment a counter based on their values
2017-10-13T22:30:32 < zyp> and?
2017-10-13T22:31:24 < dale6998> well, i've tried all kinds of different things, but this really simple state machine isn't making much sense as to why it doesn't work
2017-10-13T22:31:44 < dale6998> so, one of the last things i've got my eyebrow raised at is the DMA/ADC relationship
2017-10-13T22:31:52 < zyp> it's still unclear to me what you are trying to do and what you have achieved so far
2017-10-13T22:31:58 < dale6998> ok, ok
2017-10-13T22:32:09 < zyp> the DMA/ADC relationship is simple
2017-10-13T22:32:44 < zyp> ADC sends a DMA trigger every time there's a new conversion result in the ADC data register
2017-10-13T22:33:16 < zyp> DMA performs a transfer every time it gets a trigger, until job is completed (unless it's a circular job, in which case it just loops)
2017-10-13T22:34:02 < dale6998> alright, so i've got htis set up as a circular job, becasue i'm just rewriting the same values in the array
2017-10-13T22:34:31 < dale6998> so, ADCVale[0] is always going to be ADC1-channel 0
2017-10-13T22:35:05 < zyp> yes, as long as the number of transfers in the job and number of active ADC channels are the same
2017-10-13T22:35:22 < zyp> and assuming you always start them in the right order
2017-10-13T22:35:40 < dale6998> you mean, start the ADC first and then the DMA?
2017-10-13T22:35:46 < zyp> no, opposite way around
2017-10-13T22:36:09 < zyp> DMA job should be configured and enabled first, so it's ready to transfer the result for channel 0 as soon as it arrives
2017-10-13T22:36:36 < zyp> if you configure the ADC first, it might do a few conversions before you've got the DMA ready
2017-10-13T22:40:20 < dale6998> ok...so, if i've got to go into a switch case or something to do some work on the latest and greatest ADCValues from the latest DMA transfer, should I try to shut the DMA off so it doesn't overwrite me?
2017-10-13T22:41:16 < zyp> are you only going to read the adc values on this timer event?
2017-10-13T22:41:24 < dale6998> I'm just toggling a pin everytime I hit the DMA interrupt, and I'm getting in and out of here every 10us...I don't know if I can do math, compares, blah blha blha in a switch case with if's else's etc, without the DMA changing things on me while I'm working
2017-10-13T22:41:28 < dale6998> yes, that's it
2017-10-13T22:41:43 < zyp> then I advise not doing continous conversion
2017-10-13T22:42:22 < dale6998> ok...don't do continuous ADC conversions, or don't do continuous DMA requests?
2017-10-13T22:42:25 < zyp> just trigger a new conversion round every time you've finished working on the data
2017-10-13T22:42:47 < zyp> circular DMA is fine, it just won't do anything when the ADC is not providing data
2017-10-13T22:43:03 < zyp> so you process a group of data, then start conversion of the next group
2017-10-13T22:43:22 < zyp> next timer event, that conversion is done and in the buffers, so you process it, then start next conversion again
2017-10-13T22:45:50 < dale6998> alright...so, I'm looking for the ADC registers
2017-10-13T22:46:10 < dale6998> I'm using HAL to set this up, but I'm trying to do all this control stuff in the state machine with the registers
2017-10-13T22:47:50 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/6m0JN <- I figure something like this
2017-10-13T22:47:56 < dale6998> jesus, is it really as simple as turning on the ADON bit in the ADC_CR2 register?
2017-10-13T22:48:03 < zyp> those function names are just pseudocode
2017-10-13T22:48:52 < zyp> assuming the channel order and everything is already configured then trigging a new round of conversions should just be setting one bit, yes
2017-10-13T22:49:03 < dale6998> wow...
2017-10-13T22:49:15 < zyp> why? what did you expect?
2017-10-13T22:49:49 < dale6998> dude, i don't know what to expect...i'm an EE and i'm trying to learn FW in my free time becasue I want to close the loop educationally
2017-10-13T22:49:57 < zyp> :)
2017-10-13T22:50:32 < dale6998> so, i'm familiar with all of this, but man oh man, me looking at a reference manual...like, block diagrams, the jargon, so on...it's crawl before you walk
2017-10-13T22:51:00 < zyp> and then throw a HAL on top of that, which adds another layer of abstractions
2017-10-13T22:51:04 < zyp> hehe
2017-10-13T22:51:24 < dale6998> i mean, i'm getting better at it, and it's just a lot of grinding and finding context, but sometimes, when you read the datasheet or the RM, you're expected to know what they mean...but if you odn't know what they mean, you're tanked
2017-10-13T22:51:55 < zyp> I bet half the HAL functions is just touching a single field in a register somewhere
2017-10-13T22:51:56 < dale6998> yeah, and HAL may make it easier in some ways...but it leaves you shrugging your shoulders on other things...
2017-10-13T22:52:20 < dale6998> so, let me ask you this...if you want to turn that bit i was talking about earlier off, how would you do it?
2017-10-13T22:52:36 < zyp> hang on, which chip are you talking about?
2017-10-13T22:52:48 < zyp> I'm not gonna answer that question without looking it up in the RM
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2017-10-13T22:53:25 < dale6998> stm32f411
2017-10-13T22:53:54 < zyp> what RM number covers it?
2017-10-13T22:54:25 < zyp> RM0383, got it
2017-10-13T22:54:28 < dale6998> rm0090
2017-10-13T22:55:20 < zyp> no, RM0090 is f4x5/f4x7/f4x9
2017-10-13T22:59:04 < zyp> ADON is a normal rw bit, so you could clear it just by doing ADC_CR2 &= ~(1 << 0);
2017-10-13T22:59:37 < zyp> but I'd advise against it
2017-10-13T23:00:13 < zyp> it'll put the ADC into power down mode, and you don't want that in the short intervals between conversions
2017-10-13T23:00:31 < dale6998> ok...takes too long to heat back up?
2017-10-13T23:00:40 < zyp> what you want to do instead is to turn off continous mode, and then set the SWSTART bit every time you want to trigger a conversion
2017-10-13T23:01:05 < zyp> the adc_start_conversion() in my example would be doing that
2017-10-13T23:02:04 < zyp> I'm not saying turning off ADON wouldn't work, I'm just saying it's a poor solution
2017-10-13T23:02:36 < zyp> that's something you'd do when your device is preparing to go to sleep or something
2017-10-13T23:05:37 < dale6998> is that in the paste you sent me?
2017-10-13T23:06:22 < zyp> if for some reason you want to keep continous conversion enabled, but still want to avoid the buffer changing in the middle of processing, I suggest that you start by making a copy of the buffer
2017-10-13T23:06:44 < zyp> then just do all operation on the copy, it won't change since DMA writes to the original
2017-10-13T23:06:49 < dale6998> ok
2017-10-13T23:07:07 < zyp> but a proper trigger setup would be a better solution
2017-10-13T23:07:28 < zyp> there's no need to do conversions more often than you can process them
2017-10-13T23:07:37 < zyp> all the data in between is just getting thrown away
2017-10-13T23:10:06 < dale6998> oooh, that works
2017-10-13T23:13:17 < dale6998> and should i wait for the EOC flag or the DMA flag before I jump into this loop?
2017-10-13T23:13:33 < dale6998> wait, no, not loop...switch case
2017-10-13T23:16:39 < dale6998> while(!(ADC1->SR & (1<<1))
2017-10-13T23:19:08 < Rob235> I dont know why the canny edge detector adds those little lips on both edges of the 'box' but I was just working on the line detector and thats working: https://imgur.com/a/Udl50
2017-10-13T23:19:54 < Rob235> now I gotta shorten the line descriptor to not include every pixel on straight lines, easy enough
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2017-10-13T23:38:15 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKYUFtUS0wNU03RWM/view?usp=sharing
2017-10-13T23:40:27 < Rob235> ?
2017-10-13T23:43:41 < kakimir> looks dangerous
2017-10-13T23:43:47 < kakimir> yet again
2017-10-13T23:44:11 < Rob235> it looks like half of a 10 beer bottle holder thing that lifts out of the ground
2017-10-13T23:44:24 < kakimir> those cans on the table go under the table
2017-10-13T23:44:26 < kakimir> on that
2017-10-13T23:46:39 < Rob235> hmm how many pixels of separation should I allow in converting to a straight line? I'm thinking about a mm worth
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2017-10-13T23:54:39 < Rob235> is that your mom?
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2017-10-14T00:07:07 < Rob235> is that beautiful old lucy?
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2017-10-14T00:17:02 < dongs> ready 4 pump
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2017-10-14T00:44:16 < Steffanx> Enjoying real brit pubs dongs?
2017-10-14T00:44:49 < Steffanx> Better buy new pi-top
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2017-10-14T00:47:59 < qyx> hm, is there a way to enable/disable CC channel using a pin state?
2017-10-14T00:48:06 < qyx> *timer CC channel
2017-10-14T00:48:34 < zyp> disable how?
2017-10-14T00:48:44 < qyx> interrupt is not fast enough
2017-10-14T00:49:08 < qyx> I m using a timer IC channel as a strobe input to trigger the DMA
2017-10-14T00:49:17 < qyx> to capture a port
2017-10-14T00:49:39 < qyx> but there is an input enable and I have to skip data when it is not enabled
2017-10-14T00:50:03 < qyx> I cannot imagine timer gating combination which would allow it
2017-10-14T00:50:15 < qyx> dcmi is ok for this purpose, but I don't have one
2017-10-14T00:51:57 < zyp> which chip?
2017-10-14T00:52:14 < qyx> f411
2017-10-14T00:52:24 < qyx> mhm, there was something like timer or'ing
2017-10-14T00:54:09 < qyx> timer XOR, ch1 ch2 and ch3 together
2017-10-14T00:57:43 < qyx> actually XOR would not work :S
2017-10-14T01:00:20 < kakimir> zyp: are both service ports 1/4?
2017-10-14T01:00:49 < zyp> no idea
2017-10-14T01:00:49 < kakimir> or whatever size they are
2017-10-14T01:01:22 < zyp> I've never touched the gas stuff myself, just watched other people do it while I did the electric hookups
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2017-10-14T01:03:00 < kakimir> maybe it's 5/16
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2017-10-14T01:06:10 < kakimir> http://www.ebay.com/itm/R410A-Refrigeration-Ball-Valve-Adapter-copper-Connector-Gauges-Refrigerant-/232287484904
2017-10-14T01:06:41 < kakimir> if it's the right size I can ghettovacuum it
2017-10-14T01:09:33 < zyp> heh
2017-10-14T01:09:39 < zyp> http://www.ebay.com/itm/382225909400 <- what about this shit?
2017-10-14T01:09:48 < zyp> idk if cars use the same shit as house ACs though
2017-10-14T01:10:01 < zyp> but considering the price of that, I don't see any reason to not get it
2017-10-14T01:11:30 < kakimir> it's only the quick connect units
2017-10-14T01:11:35 < kakimir> for car use!
2017-10-14T01:11:41 < zyp> oh, right
2017-10-14T01:11:44 < zyp> I just looked at the pic
2017-10-14T01:11:49 < kakimir> and r132a ports
2017-10-14T01:11:56 < kakimir> fail in all ways
2017-10-14T01:12:08 < zyp> still
2017-10-14T01:12:09 < zyp> http://www.ebay.com/itm/222519965531
2017-10-14T01:12:15 < kakimir> why they use different gasses?
2017-10-14T01:12:22 < kakimir> why not just use the best one
2017-10-14T01:12:27 < kakimir> in everything
2017-10-14T01:13:53 < zyp> probably because there's no objectively best
2017-10-14T01:14:25 < kakimir> just different properties?
2017-10-14T01:14:32 <@englishman> best for A/C is not best for ozone layer
2017-10-14T01:14:33 < qyx> domestic use r410 mstly
2017-10-14T01:14:42 < qyx> car r134 or whatever
2017-10-14T01:14:50 < kakimir> englishman: that must be true
2017-10-14T01:15:00 < kakimir> we would use freons still!
2017-10-14T01:15:35 < kakimir> I need to save/shave a dime and charge my AC with propaine!
2017-10-14T01:15:48 < kakimir> live dangerous
2017-10-14T01:17:15 < sync> kakimir: there is a tradeoff of efficiency and idle pressure
2017-10-14T01:18:20 < kakimir> https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/refrigerant-temperature-pressure-chart-d_1683.html so r410a is the worst possible?
2017-10-14T01:18:36 < kakimir> requiring so high pressure
2017-10-14T01:19:16 < kakimir> but of course there is also the "energy quantity" per volume
2017-10-14T01:19:40 < kakimir> I don't know what to make out of this
2017-10-14T01:20:41 < kakimir> http://climetal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Captura-de-pantalla-2015-02-10-a-las-13.31.47.png interesting
2017-10-14T01:20:53 < kakimir> capacity goes down and COP goes up
2017-10-14T01:21:01 < kakimir> quite a amount
2017-10-14T01:22:09 < kakimir> get oversize unit and throw some 1234YF in and get +40% COP
2017-10-14T01:23:42 < sync> > R1234YF
2017-10-14T01:23:44 < sync> pls
2017-10-14T01:26:12 < kakimir> not good?
2017-10-14T01:28:00 < kakimir> capacity is a joke thought
2017-10-14T01:32:05 < kakimir> these gauges do not say r410a so what does it mean then?
2017-10-14T01:41:50 < sync> r1234yf emits flourine when it burns
2017-10-14T01:45:31 < ds2> Mmmmmm flourine.... great stuff :D
2017-10-14T01:49:45 < kakimir> I think I will duct my indoor air ventilation to outdoor unit to get some percentage better heating
2017-10-14T01:50:48 < kakimir> my soldering vapor vacuuming device blows outside 24/7
2017-10-14T02:08:44 < sync> so you are basically heating the outside
2017-10-14T02:09:27 < kakimir> arent you?
2017-10-14T02:12:31 < sync> not as much as you do
2017-10-14T02:19:38 < kakimir> there is pipe on top of your house that keeps rate of cubic meters or air per surface area of warm air flowing out
2017-10-14T02:19:46 < kakimir> probs
2017-10-14T02:20:10 < kakimir> but you live in warm climate
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2017-10-14T02:25:02 < sync> no, there is no pipe
2017-10-14T02:27:38 < kakimir> how does your house vent the air?
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2017-10-14T02:37:14 < kakimir> too hard question
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2017-10-14T03:06:25 < Rob235> thank you douglas peucker
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2017-10-14T03:14:07 < stvn> Girls lets get an abortion
2017-10-14T03:14:17 < stvn> Do it today
2017-10-14T03:14:22 < stvn> Let's get an abortion
2017-10-14T03:14:30 < stvn> Pull that baby out of your snizz
2017-10-14T03:14:40 < stvn> Don't give it a name
2017-10-14T03:14:44 < stvn> Flush it down the train
2017-10-14T03:15:38 < stvn> Have an abortion today
2017-10-14T03:16:52 < kakimir> she's pregrents isn't she stvn ?
2017-10-14T03:21:05 < stvn> yeah muscles
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2017-10-14T03:43:58 < Thorn> http://www.ganssle.com/images/debounceswitche.jpg
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2017-10-14T04:03:17 < aandrew> what's so hard about debouncing that?
2017-10-14T04:03:35 < aandrew> capture the leading edge and lock out for whatever debounce time you need ot work with such terrible switches
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2017-10-14T04:50:25 < Thorn> what kind of edge rise time is acceptable for ws2812*? I'm trying my esd diodes on the output of ahct245 and they + 100Ω result about 50-70ns of rise time
2017-10-14T04:50:28 < upgrdman> i've been doing it wrong for YEARS   http://i.imgur.com/9QA7K6g.gifv
2017-10-14T04:50:46 < Thorn> my test 2812 matrix seems to like it just fine
2017-10-14T04:50:52 < Thorn> the overshoot is also gone
2017-10-14T04:55:11 < sync> yes upgrdman
2017-10-14T04:56:33 < Rob235> second image is result of canny edge detection, first image is conversion to my .rob/gcode format (gotta reduce the thickness of the lines): https://imgur.com/a/zzJGN
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2017-10-14T05:02:31 < ohsix> sup
2017-10-14T05:02:32 < upgrdman> looks like fun  https://i.imgur.com/bVsJyN3.gifv
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2017-10-14T05:04:01 < Rob235> was that samwell tarley that passed by?
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2017-10-14T05:06:04 < goyim> ohsix, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozTndb7DaFg
2017-10-14T05:08:11 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/7bhvhstu8orz.png
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2017-10-14T05:13:54 < ohsix> need some hot zero day not on reddit stuff
2017-10-14T05:14:28 < goyim> ty
2017-10-14T05:30:31 < Rob235> I see bootstrap
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2017-10-14T05:39:42 < jsoft> Anyone here familiar using cmsis-dsp in particular the iir-lattice filters.. what tool do you use to generate your coefficients ?
2017-10-14T05:47:35 < aandrew> there is some software you can find that helps you develop the coefficients. not cmsis related at all though
2017-10-14T05:49:42 < jsoft> aandrew, yeah I am trying to find it.
2017-10-14T05:49:48 < jsoft> currently experimenting with octave.
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2017-10-14T13:49:30 < jadew> I decided to play a little with my racal-dana freq. counter and just had a face palm moment
2017-10-14T13:50:06 < jadew> I needed to multiply whatever it was reading by some number and it turns out it has math, but only one operation
2017-10-14T13:50:14 < jadew> (R - X) / Z
2017-10-14T13:50:24 < jadew> so if you want to multiply, you have to set x to 0
2017-10-14T13:50:48 < jadew> and for Z, you have to calculate what 1 / <multiplier> is and enter that
2017-10-14T13:59:25 < zyp> well, yeah?
2017-10-14T13:59:39 < zyp> I'd say you have two operations, not one
2017-10-14T13:59:46 < zyp> subtraction and division
2017-10-14T14:00:08 < jadew> well, yeah, but the hardware itself only performs one
2017-10-14T14:00:11 < zyp> and since you can invert them, you also have addition and multiplication
2017-10-14T14:00:29 < jadew> yeah, that's how I multiplied
2017-10-14T14:00:33 < zyp> yes
2017-10-14T14:00:46 < jadew> but it's not great, you end up entering long subunitary numbers
2017-10-14T14:01:28 < zyp> any number of calculations with the input, constants, additions, subtractions, multiplications and divisions can be reduced into (R - X) / Z
2017-10-14T14:01:52 < jadew> for example, if you want to multiply by 16, you have to enter 0.0625
2017-10-14T14:01:56 < zyp> sure
2017-10-14T14:02:25 < jadew> it's just bad UI
2017-10-14T14:03:11 < zyp> so what do you expect? a full expression parser that can symbolically reduce it into what can be calculated fast?
2017-10-14T14:03:20 < jadew> here's another one, if you want to perform a totalize (so it actually counts edgets), you have to enter a special function number :D
2017-10-14T14:03:37 < jadew> so you have to keep some notes around, with all the special functions (or the manual)
2017-10-14T14:04:06 < jadew> zyp, dedicated operations for multiplication, division, addition and sbutraction
2017-10-14T14:05:02 < jadew> hmm, maybe it does
2017-10-14T14:05:08 < jadew> totalize is function 61
2017-10-14T14:05:12 < jadew> I wonder what the other ones are
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2017-10-14T14:06:53 < jadew> doesn't
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2017-10-14T15:03:24 < Rob235> good morning
2017-10-14T15:04:24 < Steffanx> Is it a good morning? Do you wish us a good morning? Do you want it to be a good morning? Be specific Rob235
2017-10-14T15:05:52 < Rob235> as always, all of the above! :)
2017-10-14T15:06:01 < Rob235> did you see my post yesterday?
2017-10-14T15:06:34 < jadew> your website hit a million hits/day?
2017-10-14T15:07:00 < Rob235>  https://imgur.com/a/zzJGN  need to work on the image filtering, but bottom image is result of canny edge detection and top is conversion and preview of my .rob/gcode format
2017-10-14T15:07:08 < Rob235> oh ive been in the billions since last month
2017-10-14T15:07:35 < jadew> must be a tough F5 key
2017-10-14T15:07:42 < Rob235> gotta thin out the lines on the preview
2017-10-14T15:07:55 < Rob235> the number is worn off :(
2017-10-14T15:07:58 < Rob235> :)
2017-10-14T15:08:06 < Steffanx> Dont you work on the hw ?
2017-10-14T15:08:50 < Rob235> I will, took a break to work on this, this is the main part of the school project anyway, or at least will be, I'm saving it for last
2017-10-14T15:09:02 < jadew> you're doing this for school?
2017-10-14T15:09:11 < Rob235> yes and no
2017-10-14T15:09:17 < jadew> that's a lot of effort for a school thing
2017-10-14T15:09:50 < Rob235> thats how it started, but I ended up adding a million things which made the project a lot bigger than planned but I wanted to do it because its fun
2017-10-14T15:10:00 < Rob235> so both
2017-10-14T15:10:36 < Rob235> the school part is using simulated annealing to solve a two agent traveling salesman problem of drawing the lines in the fastest order without bumping into each other
2017-10-14T15:10:59 < Rob235> its two arms
2017-10-14T15:11:09 < jadew> right, I remember
2017-10-14T15:11:24 < Rob235> oh ok, I didnt know people actually listened to my ramblings :)
2017-10-14T15:12:49 < Rob235> Ive never really done web dev so I'm kinda having fun with that surprisingly.
2017-10-14T15:13:12 < jadew> yeah, it's only a soul sucking activity if you do it for money
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2017-10-14T15:40:12 < Thorn> >Semtech capacitors
2017-10-14T15:40:17 < Thorn> isn't that the Czech company that makes explosives?
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2017-10-14T18:03:38 < jsoft> Fuuuuuck
2017-10-14T18:03:45 < jsoft> Fucking DSP stuff
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2017-10-14T19:01:44 < Steffanx> Did it enjoy it jsoft?
2017-10-14T19:02:01 < jsoft> Steffanx, no
2017-10-14T19:02:15 < jsoft> Steffanx, It is hard to get a solid reference
2017-10-14T19:05:03 < Steffanx> Solid references enough on the internet. youdsp? dsphub?
2017-10-14T19:06:07 < jsoft> I'll take a look.
2017-10-14T19:06:46 < jsoft> Gargh
2017-10-14T19:06:50 < jsoft> You dick :p
2017-10-14T19:08:18 < Steffanx> haha, your response was in line with mine without you know in it :P
2017-10-14T19:11:02 < jsoft> Im not sure what you mean, but I was going 'youdsp'... and then was thinking, wait a fucking minute, s/dsp/porn/ and this guy is pulling my leg.
2017-10-14T19:18:07 < BrainDamage> jsoft: https://www.dsprelated.com/
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2017-10-14T20:13:39 < branjb> anyone used L6474 for stepper motor control?  do you need flyback on the motor outputs?  no mention in ds
2017-10-14T20:14:35 < branjb> the eval board schematic that stm has does not have any flyback on the outputs not sure if lazy or completely unnecessary
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2017-10-14T20:20:45 < Thorn> dsplab.net
2017-10-14T20:37:18 < fenugrec> www.dspguide.com
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2017-10-14T20:55:29 < Steffanx> Sorry for my bad humor jsoft. You were talking about Fucking and solid things :P
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2017-10-14T21:21:40 < metRo_> hey all
2017-10-14T21:22:27 < metRo_> I'm trying to trigger the ADC with a TIMER event without success
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2017-10-14T22:20:14 < emeryth> R2COM: autodesk fusion 360 is free for personal and "startup" use
2017-10-14T22:26:00 < upgrdman> is f360 web based or tethered?
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2017-10-14T23:08:59 < zyp> upgrdman, what do you mean?
2017-10-14T23:10:18 < zyp> it's a standalone program, but I think it needs to be signed in online for licensing
2017-10-14T23:10:34 < zyp> and there's also some cloud saving stuff
2017-10-14T23:10:51 < zyp> I think you can save stuff locally too
2017-10-14T23:18:23 < upgrdman> ahh, so free-but-intentionally-annoying.
2017-10-14T23:18:45 < upgrdman> i guess that's better than altium tho. not-free-and-still-annoying
2017-10-14T23:18:48 < vampi-the-frog> software nowadaysis garbage
2017-10-14T23:19:11 < zyp> the online storage thing has versioning and branching and stuff
2017-10-14T23:19:18 < dfgg> what about solvespace or librecad ?
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2017-10-15T00:00:38 < kakimir> 30bar and 8bar in this case zyp
2017-10-15T00:00:46 < kakimir> one for heating and one for cooling
2017-10-15T00:00:52 < kakimir> only one port in mitsu
2017-10-15T00:01:51 < kakimir> 30bar results in >50celsius heat exchanger
2017-10-15T00:05:07 < zyp> hmm?
2017-10-15T00:05:27 < zyp> only one port, not both HP/LP?
2017-10-15T00:09:37 < kakimir> service
2017-10-15T00:10:24 < zyp> weird
2017-10-15T00:15:02 < branjb> what's the shortcut to zero out the dx and dy in the grid in altium
2017-10-15T00:15:07 < branjb> can't figure out what it's called
2017-10-15T00:15:34 < branjb> and pushing random kb keys to find it is making altium made
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2017-10-15T01:40:17 < tpw_rules> space?
2017-10-15T02:01:10 < aandrew> what tiny SWD adapter
2017-10-15T02:01:20 < branjb> tag connect?
2017-10-15T02:01:20 < aandrew> the one I linked to ages ago?
2017-10-15T02:01:31 < aandrew> branjb: I'll ban you if you use that overpriced garbage
2017-10-15T02:01:34 < branjb> lol
2017-10-15T02:01:47 < tpw_rules> what else is there
2017-10-15T02:03:34 < aandrew> http://www.daniel-spilker.com/blog/2011/04/25/isptouch-for-avr-microcontrollers/
2017-10-15T02:04:01 < aandrew> you talking about the 0.050" 2x10?
2017-10-15T02:04:22 < tpw_rules> aww that's cute
2017-10-15T02:04:44 < aandrew> oh I have the digikey PN for that. It's CNC Tech 3220-10-0300-00, Digi-Key 1175-1629-ND
2017-10-15T02:04:55 < aandrew> do not use FCI 20021221-00010C4LF
2017-10-15T02:05:46 < aandrew> R2COM: there's also PTH version, 1175-1627-ND
2017-10-15T02:07:34 < aandrew> oh, one moment
2017-10-15T02:07:41 < branjb> might be another dumb question, but how do I size pads for a 7866 component
2017-10-15T02:07:52 < branjb> most cheat sheets don't go that big
2017-10-15T02:08:25 < branjb> R2COM: http://microcontrollershop.com/product_info.php?products_id=4517 ?
2017-10-15T02:09:07 < branjb> here's a digikey version https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/olimex-ltd/ARM-JTAG-20-10/1188-1016-ND/3471401
2017-10-15T02:11:48 < aandrew> R2COM: SAM8218-ND?
2017-10-15T02:12:41 < branjb> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/olimex-ltd/ARM-JTAG-20-10/1188-1016-ND/3471401
2017-10-15T02:13:16 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-15T02:13:18 < branjb> i use it now
2017-10-15T02:14:27 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/HHcHt
2017-10-15T02:15:16 < branjb> what is with manufacturers having the most intense background investigations ever before downloading step files for their shit
2017-10-15T02:18:55 < aandrew> yeah I have a few of them but didn't buy them so don't know the PN
2017-10-15T02:19:04 < aandrew> oh you found it
2017-10-15T02:19:05 < aandrew> yes
2017-10-15T02:19:17 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=2-qHo7YT4w8
2017-10-15T02:19:32 < aandrew> branjb: haha yes. "how heavy is one of your testicles?" type questions
2017-10-15T03:03:36 < vampi-the-frog> well how heavy is it?
2017-10-15T03:14:59 < Cracki> yes why don't we all fondle each others' balls
2017-10-15T03:23:34 < kakimir> *suck
2017-10-15T03:24:41 < vampi-the-frog> well that escalated quickly
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2017-10-15T05:08:17 < upgrdman> anyone here use lipo's from hobbyking?
2017-10-15T05:14:36 < aandrew> I have a few, they've not seen any heavy use
2017-10-15T05:17:43 < upgrdman> decent?
2017-10-15T05:19:41 < aandrew> I have no real opinion on them since I haven't pushed them at all
2017-10-15T05:21:23 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-15T05:26:43 < upgrdman> anyone know if the "zippy compact" batteries are legit? seems too good to be true (capacity vs. weight)  https://hobbyking.com/en_us/zippy-compact-2700mah-3s-25c-lipo-pack.html
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2017-10-15T08:09:22 <@englishman> aandrew: why not get the windows-only version https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/QoUhDy2L
2017-10-15T08:09:33 <@englishman> oh right.
2017-10-15T08:11:24 < aandrew> https://i.imgur.com/A7XTl6l_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
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2017-10-15T09:51:51 < ohsix> sup bubs
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2017-10-15T10:15:00 < Thorn> wtf why does newlib rand() require malloc()
2017-10-15T10:15:27 < Thorn>  (I assume it does because linker can't find _sbrk whei I try to use it)
2017-10-15T10:30:14 < PaulFertser> Thorn: reentrant rand() version needs that apparently.
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2017-10-15T11:21:56 < ohsix> does newlib stash it in tls or wut
2017-10-15T11:22:08 < ohsix> newlib code is kind of fun to read, since it isn't as hard as glibc's
2017-10-15T11:23:27 < PaulFertser> Yes, tls
2017-10-15T11:23:35 < PaulFertser> Duh, how else? :)
2017-10-15T11:24:04 < ohsix> well, tls on embedded is funky
2017-10-15T11:24:38 < ohsix> https://youtu.be/NVMJdWbprns?t=23
2017-10-15T11:24:42 < ohsix> sudden ketchup
2017-10-15T11:25:38 < PaulFertser> FreeRTOS comes with support for newlib reentrancy out of the box.
2017-10-15T11:41:19 < ohsix> Qualcomm Inc. filed lawsuits in China seeking to ban the sale and manufacture of iPhones in the country, the chipmaker’s biggest shot at Apple Inc. so far in a sprawling and bitter legal fight.
2017-10-15T11:41:25 < ohsix> a+ trolling
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2017-10-15T12:50:41 < lomas> Hi all, I am being unsuccessfull in converting an EEPROM read bytes into a __packed structure. Can anybody suggest me convert an array into a structure.
2017-10-15T12:51:52 < lomas> I have a large typedef structure >500 Bytes which needed to write into an EEPROM, later read it, update value and write again to the EEPROM.
2017-10-15T12:53:09 < PaulFertser> And why you can't get away with a pointer cast?
2017-10-15T12:53:40 < lomas> Yeah, I did writing, its okay writing to. But I am unsuccessful in reading.
2017-10-15T12:54:36 < PaulFertser> How exactly?
2017-10-15T12:54:51 < lomas> EE_ReadBuffer((uint8_t *)(void *)profile, ReadAddr, NumByteToRead);
2017-10-15T12:55:02 < lomas> this is how I am typecasting while rading.
2017-10-15T12:55:13 < lomas> profile in the line is a structure.
2017-10-15T13:00:12 < Thorn> and what is the error? "Error 42: Unsuccessful"?
2017-10-15T13:00:57 < Thorn> does it crash or does the structure contain mangled data or what
2017-10-15T13:03:31 < lomas> Yeah, in the line of code above it used to return the values all 0s.
2017-10-15T13:03:43 < lomas> But I got it woring now.
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2017-10-15T13:10:12 < jadew> https://i.imgur.com/uqroYqZ.gifv
2017-10-15T13:48:29 < Steffanx> Lol, i wonder what's going on at TI. Some sample request got rejected. I just let the order be. Now i suddenly received a shipment notification :S
2017-10-15T13:58:55 < sync> :DD
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2017-10-15T15:46:54 < jadew> Steffanx, they're sending you the remaining ones (empty envelope)
2017-10-15T15:47:25 < jadew> I just realized something, I think the technological explosion is harming our scientific advancement
2017-10-15T15:48:17 < jadew> technology was making huge progress 50 years ago (based on science)
2017-10-15T15:48:34 < jadew> and I think that's because smart people didn't have anything better to do
2017-10-15T15:48:43 < jadew> so they did the science
2017-10-15T15:49:12 < jadew> now we're just using the technology that exists today to build new technology, but not a lot of people are actually digging into the science
2017-10-15T15:49:25 < jadew> well, many are, but not as many as there could be
2017-10-15T15:50:46 < jadew> the geniuses have a higher chance today of doing something completely irrelevant in 10 years from now
2017-10-15T15:51:52 < jadew> while 50 years ago most of their options would have landed them in a position in which they would have been able to do things that mattered
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2017-10-15T16:06:33 < jpa-> jadew: though 50 years ago many would have lacked the economical and educational means to do any relevant science anyway
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2017-10-15T16:06:59 < jadew> jpa-, well, that's why I said 50 years ago, otherwise I would have said 100
2017-10-15T16:08:04 < jpa-> i think it is just an illusion, technology and science is advancing very fast, perhaps faster than ever
2017-10-15T16:08:16 < jadew> on the other hand, maybe I'm just not up to date with the scientific advancements that are being made today
2017-10-15T16:08:27 < jpa-> and even if it did advance somewhat faster in the 1950-2000 period, it could be just an anomaly and this is just regression to mean
2017-10-15T16:08:31 < jadew> yeah, it just seems like all the interesting stuff were done back then
2017-10-15T16:09:52 < jpa-> one factor is also that the new stuff now is quite obscure and hard to understand - pretty much how semiconductor physics would have been in 1950s
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2017-10-15T16:10:55 < jpa-> the new discoveries in physics nowadays.. i can hardly understand even which of the n+1 theories these new particles fit into
2017-10-15T16:11:32 < jadew> yeah, that's true, but they're confirmations of predictions made many decades ago
2017-10-15T16:11:40 < jpa-> some of the easier to understand stuff like crispr-cas9 (invented in 2012) might make a big difference .. or they might not?
2017-10-15T16:13:00 < jpa-> if we actually figure out how to take e.g. the genes for arbitrary naturally happening chemical processes, and put them into bacteria for industrial use - that could be huge
2017-10-15T16:13:11 < jpa-> let alone the new medical uses it might have
2017-10-15T16:13:44 < jpa-> or it might be that everything is just too complex and it will take 100 more years to understand genes even if we now have a versatile tool to study their effect
2017-10-15T16:14:34 < jadew> see, that's more like building on top of existing stuff
2017-10-15T16:14:41 < jpa-> what isn't? :D
2017-10-15T16:14:41 < jadew> but I suppose this is also very valuable
2017-10-15T16:14:49 < jadew> so maybe it's not wasted potential
2017-10-15T16:15:18 < jpa-> even the invention of fire was building on the existing knowledge of how to fell a tree ;)
2017-10-15T16:15:40 < jadew> true
2017-10-15T16:16:32 < jpa-> and even just technological progress can be quite cool; who knows, maybe spacex will actually succeed in their permanent mars base
2017-10-15T16:17:04 < jpa-> "where were you when they were building their first rockets? bitching to R2COM on irc of course"
2017-10-15T16:17:35 < BrainDamage> spacex is only providing the vectors, not the base
2017-10-15T16:17:52 < BrainDamage> base is 'exercise left to the reader'
2017-10-15T16:17:58 < BrainDamage> or nasa
2017-10-15T16:18:32 < jpa-> i thought permanent base is a pretty central component to musk's plan; whether done by spacex or other company, pretty irrelevant
2017-10-15T16:18:57 < BrainDamage> yes, but they are only providing the cheap transportation
2017-10-15T16:19:18 < BrainDamage> which is ofc still quite a big deal
2017-10-15T16:23:10 < invzim> gah, I think I may need an op-amp
2017-10-15T16:23:14  * invzim never used op-amps
2017-10-15T16:23:51 < BrainDamage> just remember, if you design an amplifier you'll get an oscillator and viceversa
2017-10-15T16:24:20 < jpa-> was just about to say the same, just pick the first oscillator schematic you'll find on google and it will be very stable
2017-10-15T16:24:37 < invzim> https://www.intersil.com/content/dam/Intersil/documents/isl5/isl59885.pdf
2017-10-15T16:24:46 < invzim> it's the input fed to this thing
2017-10-15T16:24:56 < invzim> it messes with the signal on the input pin so bad it's riddic
2017-10-15T16:25:30 < invzim> and I need to feed that signal to a different IC too
2017-10-15T16:25:58 < jpa-> what is the input coming from?
2017-10-15T16:26:28 < invzim> either old jamma PCB's (0-5V, or sync from older consoles(0-0.7V)
2017-10-15T16:26:47 < jpa-> so unknown impedance? yeah, would make sense to buffer it
2017-10-15T16:27:11 < invzim> unknown/high impedance, variable VPP
2017-10-15T16:27:37 < invzim> if intersil had put an op-amp on the input pin and made it high-impedance, it would make things a lot easier
2017-10-15T16:27:40 < BrainDamage> what's your supply?
2017-10-15T16:27:52 < invzim> 5V max
2017-10-15T16:28:01 < invzim> also got 1.2, 1.8, 2.5 and 3.3
2017-10-15T16:28:04 < jpa-> according to the block diagram, they kind of did
2017-10-15T16:28:11 < BrainDamage> you'll need an amp which is both input and output rail to rail
2017-10-15T16:28:35 < invzim> this is analog land, which on every turn is something new to me
2017-10-15T16:28:53 < invzim> and leaves me feeling I'm missing out on major basics every time :)
2017-10-15T16:29:12 < BrainDamage> unless explicitly said opamps need a bit margin from +-Vdd
2017-10-15T16:29:19 < BrainDamage> rail to rail don't
2017-10-15T16:30:05 < BrainDamage> and you need one that specifies both input and output, rail to rail without qualifiers applies to output alone
2017-10-15T16:31:24 < invzim> I could possibly 'cheat' by using schmitt buffers with gradually higher VCC
2017-10-15T16:31:40 < invzim> to complicate, the IC has 2V max input, and source can be 5V
2017-10-15T16:32:37 < BrainDamage> are the signal squarewaves?
2017-10-15T16:32:44 < invzim> yup
2017-10-15T16:32:51 < BrainDamage> you can add zeners to the opamp
2017-10-15T16:33:00 < BrainDamage> and clamp if it goes above the treshold
2017-10-15T16:33:30 < BrainDamage> look for clipping circuits
2017-10-15T16:33:39 < invzim> Yeah, I ventured into clipping
2017-10-15T16:33:44 < invzim> zeners were not great
2017-10-15T16:33:58 < invzim> they need a certain current going through them, and are not really 'sharp'
2017-10-15T16:34:08 < BrainDamage> you can make superdiodes with opamps and diodes
2017-10-15T16:34:10 < invzim> especially at lower voltages
2017-10-15T16:34:40 < BrainDamage> but since input is a square, you're probably better off with a comparator
2017-10-15T16:35:07 < BrainDamage> perhaps an open collector trigger, so that you can have easily translated voltages
2017-10-15T16:35:30 < invzim> any software good for simulating this stuff?
2017-10-15T16:35:38 < invzim> played around with http://www.falstad.com/circuit/ a bit
2017-10-15T16:37:03 < BrainDamage> falstad is very visual, nearly all the complex sims won't show the current as nicely as it does
2017-10-15T16:37:15 < BrainDamage> you'll need to use probes, plots, etc
2017-10-15T16:37:48 < BrainDamage> ltspice, qucs for free simulators, multisim for a commercial which is kinda easy and intuitive
2017-10-15T16:37:53 < fenugrec> ltspice is easy enough
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2017-10-15T16:48:26 < invzim> SN74LVC1G17 MAY be adequate
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2017-10-15T21:27:49 < branjb> is there a way to make altium highlight a component on the schematic when you pick it up on the layout?
2017-10-15T21:31:16 < upgrdman> yes
2017-10-15T21:31:24 < upgrdman> its in... uh...
2017-10-15T21:32:14 < upgrdman> tools > cross probe i think
2017-10-15T21:32:16 < upgrdman> http://www.altium.com/documentation/cn/17.1/display/ADES/((Cross-Probing+and+Selecting))_AD
2017-10-15T21:33:02 < upgrdman> tools > cross select mode too
2017-10-15T21:41:25 < branjb> thanks
2017-10-15T21:42:20 < upgrdman> np
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2017-10-15T22:06:06 < Thorn> why C2 https://cdn.sparkfun.com/datasheets/BreakoutBoards/Electret_Microphone_Breakout_v20.pdf
2017-10-15T22:07:01 <@englishman> like brain said earlier, to prevent the amplifier from becoming an oscillator? :)
2017-10-15T22:11:27 < Thorn> why so huge
2017-10-15T22:12:02 < Thorn> 4.7uF is not a normal decoupling cap (assuming it's a decoupling cap)
2017-10-15T22:17:56 < Thorn> also doesn't the circuit need resistors to gnd and vcc after C1 to set the DC level to 1/2 Vcc?
2017-10-15T22:22:21 < invzim> balls, SN74LVC1G17 needs 1.1V input when operating at 1.8
2017-10-15T22:22:30 < Steffanx> You would only do that in a non-inverting topology Thorn.
2017-10-15T22:25:41 < Thorn> ok so if I have an unused op amp I can put it as a 1:1 buffer after C1 but I will need to add the 2 resistors on its input
2017-10-15T22:26:47 < Thorn> am I getting it right
2017-10-15T22:37:56 < Thorn> like this https://imgur.com/a/ugHgo
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2017-10-15T22:40:59 < BrainDamage> negative feedback makes so that V+ and V- pins on a opamp get the same potential, that's commonly referred as 'virtual ground'
2017-10-15T22:41:20 < BrainDamage> that's why just biasing one side suffices
2017-10-15T22:41:32 < Thorn> yeah, by tweaking the "-" input, got it
2017-10-15T22:41:35 < Thorn> do I need another cap after the buffer
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2017-10-15T22:42:19 < BrainDamage> not strictly necessary, but you'll have some current flowing into the opamp at dc
2017-10-15T22:42:47 <@englishman> http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/drone-hits-commercial-aircraft-in-quebec-garneau-1.3633035
2017-10-15T22:42:52 < BrainDamage> actually probably better without if you account for bias current
2017-10-15T22:42:53 <@englishman> bullshit detector peaking
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2017-10-15T22:43:42 < Thorn> wtf why U3.1 and U7.2
2017-10-15T22:43:51 < BrainDamage> if opamp has bjt input and has significant bias current, you might want to adjust R27 and R28 so that the parallel makes 10k
2017-10-15T22:43:54 < Thorn> they don't call it dicktrace for no reason
2017-10-15T22:44:20 < Thorn> it's tlc2272, fet
2017-10-15T22:44:22 < Steffanx> Flash englishman.. this is 2017.
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2017-10-15T22:48:00 < Steffanx> If the input bias current is "high" wouldnt you care more about the 1M being pretty high?
2017-10-15T22:48:14 < BrainDamage> no because it's in parallel to 10k
2017-10-15T22:48:55 < BrainDamage> R32 and R33 are in parallel to eachother for current coming from the - pin
2017-10-15T22:49:45 < BrainDamage> moreover, opamps are a differential amplifier, with CMRR of few millions, so the absolute value of the bias added doesn't matter, just the difference between the pins
2017-10-15T22:50:15 < BrainDamage> so even if the impedance seen from the pin + would've been a MOhm it'd be ok
2017-10-15T22:50:40 < BrainDamage> altough more than 10MOhm and you tend to run into shit because then the internal opamp parasitics start to matter
2017-10-15T22:50:54 < Thorn> actually I think I have tlc2272a somewhere so I can prototype the circuit
2017-10-15T22:50:59 < BrainDamage> as well as layout and general pcb cleaniness
2017-10-15T22:51:15 <@englishman> Thorn: the 3.1 and 7.2 part are to separate power rail portions from logical portions
2017-10-15T22:53:09 < Thorn> wat.jpg
2017-10-15T22:53:50 < Thorn> renamed it in dicktrace
2017-10-15T22:54:13 < Thorn> hope it will be 1 chip when I sync to pcb
2017-10-15T22:54:44 <@englishman> o i c now
2017-10-15T22:55:18 < Steffanx> I guess i have to jump back into op-amp theory again BrainDamage :P
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2017-10-15T22:58:33 < BrainDamage> it's becoming less and less important as time goes by
2017-10-15T22:59:31 < BrainDamage> opamps get better with time so their nonidealities matter less and they are just needed less
2017-10-15T22:59:46 < BrainDamage> because chips tend to be self contained solution you just slap together
2017-10-15T23:02:38 < Thorn> good modern opamps cost more than a 200+MHz MCU
2017-10-15T23:04:55 < Thorn> thanks for the help
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2017-10-15T23:38:30 < invzim> analog comparator in place of schmitt buffer to get greater range - any common gotchas?
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2017-10-15T23:44:16 < fenugrec> invzim different hysteresis levels
2017-10-15T23:51:30 < Thorn> and I'll need to set the dc level @ 3.3V/2, not 5/2
2017-10-15T23:52:28 < Thorn> the adc Vref is 3v3
2017-10-15T23:53:06 < Thorn> http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/application-notes/AN-581.pdf explains why the cap
2017-10-15T23:53:46 < Thorn> PSRR is only 6dB without the cap
2017-10-15T23:56:51 < BrainDamage> that's becase the voltage divider literally splits in half, and 20log10(2) = 6
2017-10-15T23:57:18 < BrainDamage> you'd be feeding whatever shit the supply has to the opamp input pin
2017-10-15T23:57:26 < Thorn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorboating_(electronics)
2017-10-15T23:57:51 < Thorn> I have a TL431 lol
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2017-10-16T00:10:24 < Thorn> http://www.highfrequencyelectronics.com/Archives/Nov13/1311_HFE_squegging.pdf
2017-10-16T00:15:04 < kakimir> zyp: have you seen multiple indoor units connected to one outdoor unit?
2017-10-16T00:17:01 < qyx> is it safe to charge a small liion with voltage only charge termination?
2017-10-16T00:17:15 < qyx> looking at the LTC3106 which implements trickle charge only
2017-10-16T00:17:37 < zyp> kakimir, no, not in home systems
2017-10-16T00:17:45 < qyx> they say it is suitable for lipi/liion with a 4V voltage limit
2017-10-16T00:18:20 < zyp> industrial systems often have multiple compressors, multiple evaporators and multiple condensers in parallel
2017-10-16T00:18:32 < sync> we had such a setup at work
2017-10-16T00:18:34 < sync> worked ok
2017-10-16T00:19:00 < zyp> evaporators in different cool storage rooms, they get turned on and off on demand, and then the rest of the system scales after that
2017-10-16T00:19:35 < zyp> I once did the entire control system for such a setup, and I've also done maintenance on a few other
2017-10-16T00:20:49 <@englishman> as a sparky
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2017-10-16T00:22:51 < kakimir> whole system just produces constant pressure and evaporators just consume the liquid per temperature right?
2017-10-16T00:23:57 < kakimir> in mini-split ain't there uninsulated hot parts in outdoor unit when indoor unit is heating?
2017-10-16T00:24:05 < kakimir> meaning the pressure side copper lines
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2017-10-16T00:28:07 < kakimir> https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gaoptout
2017-10-16T00:30:47 < zyp> englishman, yes, I used to work as an electrician
2017-10-16T00:31:07 <@englishman> yeah just wondering who you were when working on that, for perspective
2017-10-16T00:31:28 < kakimir> electrician
2017-10-16T00:31:42 < kakimir> not probro32
2017-10-16T00:31:43 <@englishman> yes
2017-10-16T00:32:17 < kakimir> your carreer path is weird concidering where you are atm. zyp
2017-10-16T00:32:31 < kakimir> you don't just jump from electrician to EE pro
2017-10-16T00:33:06 < zyp> well, I don't actually have the papers
2017-10-16T00:33:17 < kakimir> me nether
2017-10-16T00:33:42 < zyp> formally my title was «assistant»
2017-10-16T00:34:14 < zyp> my father co-owns an electrician company, I worked full time there for a year before I started uni
2017-10-16T00:34:24 < kakimir> still I have done installing VFDs and electric cabinet installations in factory
2017-10-16T00:34:29 < zyp> plus pretty much every vacation I had from I was 17 and until I graduated uni
2017-10-16T00:34:56 < branjb> my title is «shitter»
2017-10-16T00:35:02 < branjb> according to my boss
2017-10-16T00:35:10 <@englishman> congrats on job
2017-10-16T00:35:26 < zyp> and the company is one of only two in the town, so they do everything; residential, industrial, boats, whatever
2017-10-16T00:35:35 < zyp> so I've seen a lot
2017-10-16T00:36:19 < zyp> I've worked on airplane GPUs as well
2017-10-16T00:36:59 < branjb> why does stm put ethernet txd/rxd signals on opposite side of the IC as the controls signals
2017-10-16T00:37:03 < branjb> is there a reason for that?
2017-10-16T00:37:49 < zyp> control signals being MDIO?
2017-10-16T00:37:53 < branjb> yea
2017-10-16T00:37:59 < zyp> probably because they're not closely related
2017-10-16T00:38:06 < zyp> MDIO is a low speed block
2017-10-16T00:38:06 < branjb> they both go to phy though
2017-10-16T00:38:25 < zyp> sure, but there's no need to keep it close to the high speed part of the MAC on the die
2017-10-16T00:38:29 < branjb> mdc too
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2017-10-16T02:03:19 < branjb> hmm
2017-10-16T02:04:58 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0-7qNCfvp0 Pryda.
2017-10-16T02:18:11 < branjb> trying to do a split power plane.. build the poly, select layer: power, net: 26V, hit enter, nothing happens, double click plane and no net is assigned
2017-10-16T02:18:37 < branjb> i suck at altium
2017-10-16T02:30:02 < branjb> closing and reopening it worked
2017-10-16T02:30:04 < branjb> how is that a thing
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2017-10-16T04:15:16 < emeb> lol - got 200x200 epaper display running on this L432.
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2017-10-16T05:21:11 < upgrdman> emeb_mac, at like 1hz?
2017-10-16T05:22:20 < emeb_mac> upgrdman: there are 2 modes of operation - one is "full redraw" that does all kinds of inversing to clear the display and "partial" that just redraws w/o the fancy crap
2017-10-16T05:22:29 < emeb_mac> full takes about 1sec
2017-10-16T05:22:37 < emeb_mac> partial takes about 300ms
2017-10-16T05:22:49 < upgrdman> hmm
2017-10-16T05:22:51 < emeb_mac> partial seems to work fine
2017-10-16T05:23:00 < upgrdman> do pro eink panels refresh faster (kindle, etc.) ?
2017-10-16T05:23:03 < emeb_mac> but may have trouble when temperature changes
2017-10-16T05:23:40 < emeb_mac> upgrdman: well, the kindles I've seen appear to do that crazy inversing stuff like "full" mode and don't seem to work very fast.
2017-10-16T05:23:46 < emeb_mac> but it's been a while
2017-10-16T05:24:03 < emeb_mac> since I've seen a kindle so my benchmark may be dated
2017-10-16T05:24:11 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-16T05:24:35 < upgrdman> amazon came out with a new 7" kindle. i kinda wanna see a 10" kindle. would be so nice for tech doc reading
2017-10-16T05:24:45 < upgrdman> like the old kindle dx
2017-10-16T05:24:52 < Cracki_> all eink displays have need for full clear/redraw sometimes
2017-10-16T05:25:09 < Cracki_> depends on what's displayed and with what fidelity
2017-10-16T05:27:44 < emeb_mac> the demo code I'm playing with uses the partial mode for updating a small region of the display with some simple text
2017-10-16T05:28:32 < emeb_mac> so it can do a basic text-mode clock with 1s increments
2017-10-16T05:32:55 < Cracki_> I suspect "fast" mode is just not as thorough in cleaning the display
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2017-10-16T06:42:40 <@englishman> hmm looks like WPA2 has been broken
2017-10-16T06:50:02 < Steffanx> Edison? Or wpa2 in general?
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2017-10-16T07:39:12 <@englishman> wpa2
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2017-10-16T08:13:04 < Thorn> how do you like my routing https://imgur.com/a/7O2Rm
2017-10-16T08:15:22 < emeb_mac> nice
2017-10-16T08:18:04 < emeb_mac> some areas of the gnd plane on 2nd layer might be a bit isolated from the rest.
2017-10-16T08:18:32 < emeb_mac> might helpt to open up some of the gnd connections by shoving the other routes around a bit.
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2017-10-16T08:33:28 <@englishman> looks good Thorn, don't think you need double sided assembly tho
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2017-10-16T08:56:23 < Thorn> ok moved R29 to where it belongs and made rs485 a/b traces wider because up to 250mA
2017-10-16T08:57:00 < Thorn> does allpcb ship with tracking?
2017-10-16T09:15:26 < ohsix> butts
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2017-10-16T10:56:41 < Thorn> "ground plane" is not a reason enough?
2017-10-16T10:58:33 < Thorn> ok ground plane stitched, traces spread out, gerbers exported and submitted to allpcb
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2017-10-16T11:00:41 < zyp> dead islands of pour are not useful
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2017-10-16T11:02:24 < Thorn> I put vias in them
2017-10-16T11:02:32 < Thorn> most of the time
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2017-10-16T11:05:00 < zyp> a small island with one via is probably not useful either
2017-10-16T11:05:25 < zyp> is this done in altium? altium has a pour option to remove islands
2017-10-16T11:05:42 < Thorn> nope dicktrace
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2017-10-16T12:10:31 < BrainDamage> https://giant.gfycat.com/GreedyWarmBongo.webm
2017-10-16T12:10:42 < BrainDamage> ^literal shipost
2017-10-16T12:20:44 < Steffanx> Sexy.
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2017-10-16T13:36:01 < Thorn> are f4 adc inputs 5V tolerant? iirc for f1 and f0 the answer is no
2017-10-16T13:37:03 < zyp> iirc no
2017-10-16T13:37:29 < zyp> I believe the pins might be, when not in analog mode
2017-10-16T13:37:41 < zyp> but consult the datasheet for specifics
2017-10-16T13:42:22 < Thorn> most adc pins are marked "FT" in the table
2017-10-16T13:47:35 < Thorn> and there is note 4. FT = 5 V tolerant except when in analog mode or oscillator mode (for PC14, PC15, PH0 and PH1).
2017-10-16T13:48:07 < Thorn> so for other pins FT means "even in analog mode"?
2017-10-16T13:53:28 < zyp> uh
2017-10-16T13:54:06 < zyp> the listed pins are the LSE and HSE pins, so that might be just oscillator mode
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2017-10-16T14:04:14 < Thorn> I can't find anything specific in the datasheet
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2017-10-16T14:06:12 < zyp> Thorn, you mentioned note 4
2017-10-16T14:06:28 < zyp> the pin list have a Notes-col, which says 4 for a bunch of pins
2017-10-16T14:07:40 < zyp> all/most ADC pins, it looks like
2017-10-16T14:08:05 < zyp> so "5V tolerant except when in analog mode" is the reasonable interpretation
2017-10-16T14:08:35 < Thorn> I'm looking at 401b/c datasheet and there are many ADC_IN pins that do not have (4)
2017-10-16T14:10:18 < Thorn> or any other notes, and they're FT
2017-10-16T14:13:47 < zyp> okay, you should have said f401 earlier
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2017-10-16T14:18:42 < zyp> looks like the oscillator pins are the only non-tolerant pins on f401
2017-10-16T14:29:23 < Thorn> now table 66 says Conversion voltage range: 0 to Vref+ but this does not appear to be a damage condition
2017-10-16T14:32:57 < zyp> that much should be obvious
2017-10-16T14:33:03 < zyp> inputs over vref would saturate
2017-10-16T14:34:48 < Thorn> that's how I understand it
2017-10-16T14:45:10 < englishman> zyp, unconnected island can be useful, they can ensure etch rates across the pcb surface are even
2017-10-16T14:45:33 < englishman> although with small ones it should not make that big of a difference
2017-10-16T14:46:49 < zyp> does that even matter for modern etching?
2017-10-16T14:47:24 < englishman> whats the difference between modern etching and ancient etching?
2017-10-16T14:47:42 < Laurenceb> the current year
2017-10-16T14:47:50 < zyp> better process control?
2017-10-16T14:48:00 < jpa-> and needing much more accuracy than in 90s
2017-10-16T14:48:03 < englishman> to ensure even etching they will also add copper to external areas see here https://i.imgur.com/F9sulJm.jpg?1
2017-10-16T14:48:09 < jpa-> so they've had to improve anyway
2017-10-16T14:48:37 < jpa-> englishman: or just to avoid useless etching?
2017-10-16T14:49:03 < jpa-> i don't know any modern pcb fab that has such fills in their design rules
2017-10-16T14:49:08 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/r1ChW.JPG <- I've done multilayer shit like this without pours on signal layers
2017-10-16T14:49:42 < englishman> yeah but the copper distribution in that is still even
2017-10-16T14:51:15 < tomeaton17> Is there a chance that this https://gyazo.com/428cea719aa70a2dd6b5edd22fedc2b9 low clock pulse is causing SDA to stay low?
2017-10-16T14:52:45 < jpa-> what's that glitch at 1051.0?
2017-10-16T14:53:17 < tomeaton17> Thats what I was talking about, wondering if that was causing the problem
2017-10-16T14:53:24 < zyp> probably
2017-10-16T14:53:41 < Laurenceb> is dat some i2c
2017-10-16T14:53:41 < zyp> glitches will cause desync in state between master and slave
2017-10-16T14:53:47 < jpa-> well atleast it is not normal, so even if doesn't cause this problem, it will cause some other problem :P
2017-10-16T14:53:53 < Laurenceb> >being surprised with i2c fails
2017-10-16T14:54:13 < jpa-> also i see only 7 clock pulses anyway.. shouldn't there be 9?
2017-10-16T14:54:17 < zyp> pullup looks weak judging by the rise times
2017-10-16T14:54:31 < Laurenceb> holy shit
2017-10-16T14:54:33 < jpa-> weak but not weak enough to cause problems
2017-10-16T14:54:34 < Laurenceb> thats bad
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2017-10-16T14:54:48 < zyp> jpa-, true
2017-10-16T14:54:49 < Laurenceb> capacitive crosstalk and all sorts of nastyness
2017-10-16T14:54:52 < Laurenceb> no wonder if fails
2017-10-16T14:54:56 < Laurenceb> *it
2017-10-16T14:54:58 < tomeaton17> Yeah its i2c. Yeah I think desync is likely. I am going to try and capture a failure again and see if the runt pulse is captured again
2017-10-16T14:55:13 < tomeaton17> And yes Its time to take it off the breadboard
2017-10-16T14:55:15 < jpa-> is this stm32 I2C? are you following the errata closely?
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2017-10-16T15:00:36 < tomeaton17> Not sure if the errata i2c issues are related
2017-10-16T15:02:11 < jpa-> me neither, but stm32 i2c is a mess, so i wouldn't be unsurprised it to make such glitches in some error case
2017-10-16T15:04:50 < englishman> pwnd https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/severe-flaw-in-wpa2-protocol-leaves-wi-fi-traffic-open-to-eavesdropping/
2017-10-16T15:05:33 < englishman> https://www.krackattacks.com/
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2017-10-16T15:13:04 < karlp> I wish they wouldn't keep using "novel" so much  but yeah
2017-10-16T15:13:17 < karlp> best part of that page is the "openbsd won't be told early next time, fuckers"
2017-10-16T15:13:59 < tomeaton17> Potentially "Wrong data sampling when data set-up time is shorter than one I2CCLK period" is the problem
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2017-10-16T15:17:02 < englishman> ha, theo
2017-10-16T15:17:11 < BrainDamage> while we're on the topic
2017-10-16T15:17:17 < BrainDamage> infineon fucked up really bad
2017-10-16T15:17:19 < BrainDamage> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/crypto-failure-cripples-millions-of-high-security-keys-750k-estonian-ids/
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2017-10-16T15:32:00 < sync> gg
2017-10-16T15:35:09 < tomeaton17> I think there was something wrong with the scope... It is working when I don't log it with the scope
2017-10-16T15:46:07 < tomeaton17> Hm its a usb scope and the STM32 is powered from the same modem, so I think the scope must use enough power to cause the stm32s supply to dip causing the problem
2017-10-16T15:49:27 < karlp> shitty pullups
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2017-10-16T16:29:09 < daey> tomeaton17: sounds familiar. when i have my cheapo logic analyzer connected to the circuit but not powered the circuit doesnt work
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2017-10-16T17:18:27 < zyp> got a jlink, code composer studio is not too happy about that
2017-10-16T17:18:43 < zyp> debugging works, but flash writing fails
2017-10-16T17:19:06 < Thorn> bool competition_detected = true;
2017-10-16T17:19:22 < zyp> same elf writes fine through ozone though, and wrote fine with the onboard TI debugger through CCS
2017-10-16T17:23:23 < Thorn> I hate my soldering skills. serial flash was intermittently failing to read on a board that I assembled. I resoldered all spi pins on both the stm32 and the flash chip several times, even replaced the flash chip. what fixed it was a heat gun reflow of the stm32
2017-10-16T17:23:25 < Thorn> I need a reflow oven
2017-10-16T17:23:46 < Thorn> I even got most of the parts to make one
2017-10-16T17:25:26 < jpa-> it helps to modify the tqfp footprint so that the pads are a little longer, then you can verify connection with a microscope easily
2017-10-16T17:25:59 < Thorn> there's at least 0.5mm sticking out
2017-10-16T17:26:00 < qyx> I am also using longer pads
2017-10-16T17:26:11 < qyx> like 1-1.5mm
2017-10-16T17:27:07 < Thorn> I looked at it under magnification and measured resistance, one of the lines was 0.1Ω which was slightly larger than the rest, not sure if it was a symptom
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2017-10-16T17:28:33 < tpw_rules> how did you measure
2017-10-16T17:29:43 < Thorn> brymen leads on top of pins on both sides
2017-10-16T17:30:36 < Thorn> it's got high resolution (0.01Ω?) but no lead compensation
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2017-10-16T17:49:37 < Thorn> oh nice
2017-10-16T17:49:41 < Thorn> >Dear Customer, due to the shipping management system upgrade, our warehouse stop dealing with orders temporarily. Please do not place any order until further advised. Apology for the inconvenience caused!
2017-10-16T17:54:19 < Thorn> this is lcsc.com and I ordered from them this morning (they already had a warning but not this bad lol)
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2017-10-16T18:21:13 < upgrdman> https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/76ohly/severe_flaw_in_wpa2_protocol_leaves_wifi_traffic/
2017-10-16T18:23:53 < englishman> old
2017-10-16T18:24:05 < englishman> and reddit
2017-10-16T18:24:14 < karlp> at least use the krack url
2017-10-16T18:24:23 < karlp> more hashhash party name friendly
2017-10-16T18:24:35 < englishman> upgrdman's link is so old, bsd already had the time to ruin it for everyone
2017-10-16T18:24:43  * karlp laughs
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2017-10-16T19:18:26 < Laurenceb> should blank stm32f042 be programmable with dfu?
2017-10-16T19:18:39 < Laurenceb> my reading of ref manual is yes, but i get
2017-10-16T19:18:44 < Laurenceb> >device not accepting address
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2017-10-16T19:32:50 < Laurenceb> does dfu use low speed usb?
2017-10-16T19:33:48 < englishman> fullspeed, no?
2017-10-16T19:33:57 < englishman> and yes with blank chip it should jump right into dfu
2017-10-16T19:34:00 < englishman> iirc
2017-10-16T19:34:00 < Laurenceb> oh shit
2017-10-16T19:34:08 < Laurenceb> I think D+ and D- are reversed
2017-10-16T19:34:12 < Laurenceb> epin fail
2017-10-16T19:34:14 < englishman> rekt
2017-10-16T19:35:19 < karlp> lolrencing
2017-10-16T19:35:59 < Laurenceb> holy shit
2017-10-16T19:36:17 < Laurenceb> I just got irl trolled by google images https://i.stack.imgur.com/83oKl.png
2017-10-16T19:36:29 < Laurenceb> thats some pro trolling
2017-10-16T19:36:42 < englishman> dongs whats the finest pitch bga you've done
2017-10-16T19:37:05 < englishman> lol
2017-10-16T19:37:11 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
2017-10-16T19:37:12 < englishman> dude
2017-10-16T19:37:18 < englishman> how did you get a phd with that quality research
2017-10-16T19:37:27 < Laurenceb> lazy
2017-10-16T19:41:55 < qyx> lol
2017-10-16T20:17:29 < aandrew> Laurenceb: IIRC you must have an external resistor on either D+ or D-
2017-10-16T20:17:46 < aandrew> I forget which but it's called out in the DFU specific docs
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2017-10-16T20:28:26 < englishman> f0 takes care of that
2017-10-16T20:28:32 < englishman> iirc its f3 and older that you need it
2017-10-16T20:34:32 < aandrew> ah
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2017-10-16T20:43:06 < Laurenceb> works now
2017-10-16T20:43:16 < Laurenceb> stm32f042 flash starts at 0x08000000 ?
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2017-10-16T20:47:39 < Laurenceb> yay
2017-10-16T20:47:43 < Laurenceb> its bricked
2017-10-16T20:48:35 < Steffanx> Good work brah.
2017-10-16T20:48:37 < englishman> whats a debugger? how do i computer
2017-10-16T20:48:47 < englishman> 2psk is superior to lora
2017-10-16T20:48:54 < Laurenceb> no shit
2017-10-16T20:49:00 < sync> rtty
2017-10-16T20:49:11 < Steffanx> That's what LoRanceb said englishman
2017-10-16T20:49:33 < englishman> can make a LoRap with these LoRyics
2017-10-16T20:50:05 < Steffanx> lolz.
2017-10-16T20:50:21 < aandrew> you can't brick an stm32 such that DFU won't rescue it
2017-10-16T20:50:31 < aandrew> might have to raise BOOT0 but you can't brick it
2017-10-16T20:50:37 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-10-16T20:50:49 < Laurenceb> something is wrong with my startup codez
2017-10-16T20:50:53 < englishman> guessing laurent tied it to groundplane underneath the ic
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2017-10-16T20:51:41 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/spT2w5Y0
2017-10-16T20:51:56 < aandrew> I made a motor control board with 6 H bridge ICs on it
2017-10-16T20:52:22 < aandrew> the ICs have a DIS1 and DIS2# pin. I tied one to V+ and the other to GND with VIP
2017-10-16T20:52:33 < aandrew> I read DIS1/DIS2# as EN1/EN2#
2017-10-16T20:52:36 < aandrew> derp
2017-10-16T20:53:13 < aandrew> had to pull each one off, dig the pad off the board, put a tiny dab of epoxy down to insulate the via, then edge-tack wire to properly enable the chip
2017-10-16T20:53:39 < aandrew> of course the fucking thing has pullup/pulldown to disable the device too, so I had to do the wire thing
2017-10-16T20:54:04 < sync> nice
2017-10-16T20:54:11 < sync> would have been easier to respin the board
2017-10-16T20:54:33 < qyx> let me guess
2017-10-16T20:54:36 < qyx> was it a freescale driver?
2017-10-16T20:56:07 < aandrew> qyx: actually yes, what gave it away
2017-10-16T20:56:36 < aandrew> sync: nah, there was a shitload of components on the board. stm32f7, 6 h bridges, tons of sensor inputs... tooe xpensive to scrap and spin for prototyping
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2017-10-16T21:00:30 < upgrdman> in altidongs, can i disable ratsnest for a certain net (like GND)
2017-10-16T21:01:10 < aandrew> yes. how the fuck do you do it
2017-10-16T21:01:12 < aandrew> I did it before
2017-10-16T21:01:17 < aandrew> I think it involves hide/show nets
2017-10-16T21:01:18 < englishman> dono about that specifically, but if you place a groundplane everywhere and then shelve it, the ratlines disappear
2017-10-16T21:01:27 < aandrew> you can hide all nets and then create a net group with the nets you want to see
2017-10-16T21:07:18 < Laurenceb> Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
2017-10-16T21:07:18 < Laurenceb> 0xfffffffe in ?? ()
2017-10-16T21:07:23 < Laurenceb> something bad...
2017-10-16T21:08:56 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/fATtb2DV
2017-10-16T21:08:59 < Laurenceb> muh asm is failing
2017-10-16T21:12:34 < qyx> aandrew: I did something similar, 6x hbridge driver, some 6A freescale shit + sensor inputs and things
2017-10-16T21:13:10 < aandrew> Laurenceb: unwind the stack and see what insn it failed on
2017-10-16T21:13:19 < qyx> whose enable/disable inputs just rang a bell
2017-10-16T21:13:22 < aandrew> because with that register dump there should not have been a trap unless your flash is tiny
2017-10-16T21:13:23 < Laurenceb> aandrew: thats where it failed
2017-10-16T21:13:37 < Laurenceb> in startup asm code
2017-10-16T21:13:41 < aandrew> ah no stack yet
2017-10-16T21:13:52 < aandrew> well no in your IVR, what do you have SP set to
2017-10-16T21:13:59 < aandrew> (IVR table + 4)
2017-10-16T21:14:15 < aandrew> 0x200017e0, sounds reasonable
2017-10-16T21:14:19 < Laurenceb> oh doh
2017-10-16T21:14:23 < Thorn> why so low
2017-10-16T21:14:27 < Thorn> how much ram
2017-10-16T21:14:29 < Laurenceb> 0x2000FFF0
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2017-10-16T21:14:38 < Laurenceb> only 6k of ram on f042
2017-10-16T21:14:44 < Laurenceb> thats why its failing
2017-10-16T21:14:45 < Thorn> fff0 is 65520
2017-10-16T21:14:53 < Laurenceb> how can i make it adjust to different devices
2017-10-16T21:14:58 < Laurenceb>  _estack ?
2017-10-16T21:15:10 < Thorn> is your linker script wrong
2017-10-16T21:15:19 < Laurenceb> Thorn: no my asm code is
2017-10-16T21:15:27 < Laurenceb> I copied parts from F4
2017-10-16T21:16:29 < Thorn> where does that address 0x2000fff0 come from?
2017-10-16T21:16:36 < Laurenceb> from F4
2017-10-16T21:16:42 < Thorn> you can't have it on a 6K MCU
2017-10-16T21:17:06 < Laurenceb> I know that now :P
2017-10-16T21:17:09 < Thorn> unless it's secretly a 64K MCU
2017-10-16T21:17:22 < Laurenceb> hmm _estack is 6144
2017-10-16T21:17:33 < Laurenceb> seems too high, _stack-4  ?
2017-10-16T21:19:13 < aandrew> 0x2000fff0 - like thorn said, that's at the top end of 64k; you're likely segfaulting because of that
2017-10-16T21:20:16 < Laurenceb> yeah sure
2017-10-16T21:20:28 < Laurenceb> but that address itself is unusable right?
2017-10-16T21:20:40 < Laurenceb> I need _estack-4  as the storage address?
2017-10-16T21:20:43 < aandrew> correct, on a 6k RAM device that address is unmapped
2017-10-16T21:20:54 < aandrew> yes that sounds correct
2017-10-16T21:21:58 < Laurenceb> muh asm skillz suck
2017-10-16T21:22:15 < Laurenceb> how do I write _estack-4 ?
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2017-10-16T21:26:34 < Thorn> iirc it is correct for full descending stack
2017-10-16T21:27:30 < Thorn> i.e. push decrements sp then stores a register
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2017-10-16T21:28:02 < Thorn> so if you set initial SP to end of RAM + 1 you won't waste a word at the end
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2017-10-16T21:29:41 < Laurenceb> sub		   r0, [r0, #4]
2017-10-16T21:29:48 < Laurenceb> whats wrong with that?
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2017-10-16T21:32:32 < Thorn> the [ ]
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2017-10-16T21:38:21 < Laurenceb> oh
2017-10-16T21:38:26 < Laurenceb> error on previous line
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2017-10-16T21:44:46 < aandrew> Laurenceb: I don't think you can do negative offsets
2017-10-16T21:45:24 < aandrew> Laurenceb: thumb might not allow you to do that in one step
2017-10-16T21:46:00 < aandrew> ldr r0, #0
2017-10-16T21:46:06 < aandrew> ldr r1, [r0, #4]
2017-10-16T21:46:16 < aandrew> sub r1, #4
2017-10-16T21:46:17 < aandrew> ?
2017-10-16T21:46:50 < aandrew> but sp should be fine already if this is your startup code
2017-10-16T21:47:54 < Steffanx> Why write startup code in assembly?
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2017-10-16T21:48:13 < aandrew> with cortex it's generally unnecessary
2017-10-16T21:48:40 < aandrew> since stack is set up for you. You do need to zero BSS and fill .data though
2017-10-16T21:48:52 < aandrew> and that's almost always done in assembly
2017-10-16T21:49:30 < Laurenceb> aandrew: yeah got it thanks
2017-10-16T21:49:36 < Laurenceb> but debug isnt making any sense
2017-10-16T21:49:47 < Laurenceb> main code is booting up but giving nonsense
2017-10-16T21:50:07 < aandrew> sounds like a typical ##stm32 prog
2017-10-16T21:50:10 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/ZqBvJFFQ
2017-10-16T21:50:13 < Laurenceb> literally wut
2017-10-16T21:50:36 < Steffanx> aandrew, lpc tends to do it in C. At least in the lpc stuff i used.
2017-10-16T21:50:40 < Steffanx> *nxp
2017-10-16T21:50:56 < aandrew> yeah but nxp sucks
2017-10-16T21:51:14 < Steffanx> That's kinda irrelevant in this case.
2017-10-16T21:51:24 < Laurenceb> MDL_Config () at Src/sensors.c:41
2017-10-16T21:51:24 < Laurenceb> 41	uint8_t LIS3MDL_Config() {
2017-10-16T21:51:24 < Laurenceb> (gdb) s
2017-10-16T21:51:24 < Laurenceb> Reset_Handler () at
2017-10-16T21:51:25 < Thorn> beg        Reboot_Loader
2017-10-16T21:51:28 < Laurenceb> arggg WTF
2017-10-16T21:52:19 < Laurenceb> gdb is a random noise generator
2017-10-16T21:53:20 < Steffanx> Is noise ever considered not random?
2017-10-16T21:53:36 < BrainDamage> no by definition
2017-10-16T21:53:40 < aandrew> yes, there is noise that is not random
2017-10-16T21:54:10 < Thorn> ##stm32?
2017-10-16T21:54:20 < Steffanx> ##stm32 tends to be pretty random
2017-10-16T21:54:39 < BrainDamage> in my metrology course we classfied any unwated signal that cannot be predicted as noise, and any that can be predicted as disturbance
2017-10-16T21:54:40 < Steffanx> Although it tends to be more like a random crap generator that needs a seed.
2017-10-16T21:54:58 < BrainDamage> therefore disturbance can be eliminated, while noise only attenuated, at least in a linear regime
2017-10-16T21:55:33 < Steffanx> hah
2017-10-16T21:55:53 < englishman> racist
2017-10-16T21:56:10 < Steffanx> But then there still is the point: why write the startup code in assembly?
2017-10-16T21:57:22 < aandrew> because it's simple?
2017-10-16T21:57:35 < aandrew> probably a dozen to twenty lines and you're done
2017-10-16T21:57:45 < aandrew> but there's no need, you're right
2017-10-16T21:57:58 < Steffanx> Simple and yet, mr loranceb fails terribly at it.
2017-10-16T21:57:59 < aandrew> make your startup code nekkid and init bss/.data and jump ot main
2017-10-16T21:58:12 < aandrew> he's learning, give him a break
2017-10-16T21:58:44 < Steffanx> Ill racism you englishman. Canuck.
2017-10-16T21:59:52 < aandrew> an old car on a flatbed on the highway is classified as "only in romania" ?
2017-10-16T22:00:27 < Steffanx> it stolen.
2017-10-16T22:00:31 < Steffanx> *its
2017-10-16T22:01:33 < Steffanx> Thorn, you do no happen to play Insurgency do you?
2017-10-16T22:01:51 < Thorn> what is it
2017-10-16T22:02:24 < Thorn> one of those "computer games"?
2017-10-16T22:03:48 < Steffanx> nevermind then.
2017-10-16T22:06:24 < qyx> what did I tell last time
2017-10-16T22:06:30 < qyx> anyone catched that infineon fuckup?
2017-10-16T22:06:56 < qyx> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/10/crypto-failure-cripples-millions-of-high-security-keys-750k-estonian-ids/
2017-10-16T22:07:28 < aandrew> superbia: ah I missed that
2017-10-16T22:07:33 < aandrew> carception
2017-10-16T22:07:54 < aandrew> qyx: nope didn't see that
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2017-10-16T22:08:04 < BrainDamage> i linked it a few hours ago
2017-10-16T22:08:23 < Laurenceb> well this refuses to be debugged
2017-10-16T22:08:25 < Laurenceb> rogram received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap.
2017-10-16T22:08:25 < Laurenceb> 0x2000002e in USBD_FS_DeviceDesc ()
2017-10-16T22:08:32 < Laurenceb> ^ forever
2017-10-16T22:08:57 < qyx> apparently 1.5mil of eID here are vulnerable too
2017-10-16T22:09:23 < Laurenceb> hmf
2017-10-16T22:09:32 < Laurenceb> f042 is undebuggable
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2017-10-16T22:09:59 < aandrew> undebuggable
2017-10-16T22:10:00 < aandrew> lol
2017-10-16T22:10:12 < emeryth> just attach more leds
2017-10-16T22:12:07 < Laurenceb> oh shit
2017-10-16T22:12:14 < Laurenceb> watchdog is running
2017-10-16T22:12:15 < Laurenceb> no wonder
2017-10-16T22:13:39 < Laurenceb> I'll blame HAL
2017-10-16T22:14:40 < qyx> you don't even hal
2017-10-16T22:15:03  * qyx doing a blinky LED hello world on a F4 disco
2017-10-16T22:15:08 < Thorn> a step up from blaming the patriarchy
2017-10-16T22:16:52 < Laurenceb> hmm no luck
2017-10-16T22:17:07 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/qSEsTfHB
2017-10-16T22:17:12 < Laurenceb> in an endless loop now
2017-10-16T22:20:14 < Laurenceb> any ideas wtf is going on?
2017-10-16T22:20:25 < Laurenceb> can't seem to get to main :(
2017-10-16T22:21:16 < Laurenceb> single step just gives nonsense
2017-10-16T22:22:48 < emeb> add more printf() statments
2017-10-16T22:23:26 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-16T22:23:36 < Laurenceb> I think watchdog is still being weird
2017-10-16T22:25:23 < Laurenceb> anyone here used watchdog on F042?
2017-10-16T22:25:31 < englishman> fo72 yes
2017-10-16T22:25:57 < Laurenceb> how do you diable watchdog during debug?
2017-10-16T22:26:00 < Laurenceb> *disable
2017-10-16T22:26:04 < Steffanx> What about get your code up and running with just a bare main toggle led hello world?
2017-10-16T22:26:22 < Steffanx> i cannot imagine the watch dog is enabled by default.
2017-10-16T22:26:57 < englishman> neither watchdog is
2017-10-16T22:27:25 < Steffanx> so better take tiny baby steps
2017-10-16T22:27:39 < englishman> i dont seem to remember it interfering with debugging
2017-10-16T22:29:33 < Steffanx> there is a  DBGMCU bit to disable it while debugging i believe
2017-10-16T22:29:37 < Steffanx> not sure if f0 has it
2017-10-16T22:30:05 < englishman> ooh yea
2017-10-16T22:30:10 < Steffanx> (DBGMCU->APB1FZ |= (DBGMCU_APB1_FZ_DBG_IWDG_STOP))
2017-10-16T22:30:13 < englishman> because i was also using sleep mode etc im writing there
2017-10-16T22:30:21 < Steffanx> pro hal macro: __HAL_DBGMCU_FREEZE_IWDG()
2017-10-16T22:30:22 < englishman> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/hxS54eZE/
2017-10-16T22:30:41 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-16T22:30:50 < Laurenceb> I already had (DBGMCU->APB1FZ |= (DBGMCU_APB1_FZ_DBG_IWDG_STOP))
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2017-10-16T22:31:07 < Laurenceb> anyways
2017-10-16T22:31:13 < Laurenceb> managed to make it work once
2017-10-16T22:31:41 < Laurenceb> sensor device id is 0x0f
2017-10-16T22:31:45 < Laurenceb> its broken
2017-10-16T22:31:53 < Laurenceb> but apparently not utterly
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2017-10-16T22:34:58 < Laurenceb> ah well enough raging for one day
2017-10-16T22:38:56 < Steffanx> selfinflicted rage
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2017-10-16T23:16:36 < karlp> sif writing startup code in asm.
2017-10-16T23:16:42 < karlp> loserenceb
2017-10-16T23:24:40 < englishman> http://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2017/10/15/il-mange-20-livres-de-poutine-en-10-minutes-pour-une-bonne-cause-1
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2017-10-16T23:56:58 < Steffanx> I dislike borat, superbia
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2017-10-17T00:01:18 < kakimir> shit done
2017-10-17T00:01:20 < kakimir> what to do now
2017-10-17T00:01:44 < englishman> prada
2017-10-17T00:01:48 < englishman> pryda
2017-10-17T00:01:49 < englishman> whatever
2017-10-17T00:01:53 < englishman> sauna
2017-10-17T00:02:05 < englishman> i assume you will not be innovating tonight
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2017-10-17T00:02:18 < kakimir> I have not been innovatin for long time
2017-10-17T00:02:36 < Steffanx> No sma via stitching?
2017-10-17T00:02:53 < kakimir> englishman: T7 pix please
2017-10-17T00:03:02 < kakimir> transfer case pix
2017-10-17T00:03:08 < englishman> sure il take pix tonight in whatever state its in lol
2017-10-17T00:03:21 < kakimir> sauna - check, pryda - check
2017-10-17T00:04:43 < sync> needs more kvass and hardbass
2017-10-17T00:06:31 < englishman> The researchers went on to find 15 factorizable keys used for TLS. Strangely, almost all of them contain the string "SCADA" in the common name field.
2017-10-17T00:08:46 < sync> unsuprising
2017-10-17T00:12:42 < kakimir> so WPA2 has an issue now?
2017-10-17T00:13:51 < englishman> maybe WEP is actually more secure now that everyone has forgotten how to hack it
2017-10-17T00:17:56 < kakimir> but tools are still there readily available
2017-10-17T00:18:10 < kakimir> and come included in hackin OS
2017-10-17T00:18:51 < kakimir> wpa2 is ruined no matter if using TKIP or AES?
2017-10-17T00:21:21 < BrainDamage> there's an issue with wpa clients
2017-10-17T00:21:30 < BrainDamage> it's entirely client side and entirely fixable
2017-10-17T00:21:46 < englishman> win10 is immune too
2017-10-17T00:21:49 < englishman> bsd is rekt
2017-10-17T00:21:52 < englishman> lunix is rekt
2017-10-17T00:21:57 < BrainDamage> the spec was ambigous on few passages, and everyone interpreted it in the bad way
2017-10-17T00:22:00 < englishman> so no worries, really
2017-10-17T00:22:32 < BrainDamage> you can switch to a different way to do it and the problem will be gone
2017-10-17T00:22:47 < BrainDamage> next wifi spec will be super clear on what to do
2017-10-17T00:23:03 < BrainDamage> tldr update your shit and you'll be fine
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2017-10-17T00:40:58 < kakimir> is there any commercial coating that both 1) conducts heat 2) do not frost but ice falls straight off?
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2017-10-17T01:27:59 < kakimir> did innovate tonight
2017-10-17T01:33:15 < kakimir> how to get air ventilation into AC outdoor unit in winter without causing more problems than benefits
2017-10-17T01:33:27 < kakimir> meaning frosting
2017-10-17T01:38:08 < kakimir> raspberry pi + 2 DHT22 + RC servo
2017-10-17T01:45:03 < upgrdman> GOD DAMN IT. altidongs crashed and i lost ~2 hours of pcb work.
2017-10-17T01:45:17 < Cracki_> no ctrl-s reflex?
2017-10-17T01:45:31 < upgrdman> it was totally unresponsive.
2017-10-17T01:45:38 < upgrdman> i tried hotkeys... nothing
2017-10-17T01:45:46 < Cracki_> increate reflex frequency
2017-10-17T01:45:48 < Cracki_> *increase
2017-10-17T01:46:14 < upgrdman> ya i guess im just used to decent software ;)
2017-10-17T01:46:26 < Cracki_> "you asked for it"
2017-10-17T01:46:56 < Cracki_> it's not the software's fault you make its ram usage engorge
2017-10-17T01:47:49 < upgrdman> ram usage was <50%. first thing i checked was task manager to see if a core was pegged or memory was thrashing.
2017-10-17T01:47:58 < Cracki_> so what were you working on
2017-10-17T01:48:04 < upgrdman> pcb
2017-10-17T01:48:07 < Cracki_> orly
2017-10-17T01:48:14 < upgrdman> routing and component placemetn
2017-10-17T01:48:20 < Cracki_> you don't say
2017-10-17T01:48:52 < Cracki_> lemme guess, it's either an internet of shit buttplug or an alien tracking device for the air force
2017-10-17T01:49:20 < upgrdman> lol, no.
2017-10-17T02:37:57 < aandrew> upgrdman: I have a sixth sense with altium. when it starts to show black screen flickers when I'm routing I know it's time to save because it will crash wthin a few min
2017-10-17T02:38:26 < upgrdman> ya i've expereince that too
2017-10-17T02:38:31 < upgrdman> but today it was just random
2017-10-17T02:38:44 < upgrdman> one second it worked, the next it was 100% locked the fuck up
2017-10-17T02:40:43 < aandrew> i've not had much success with its autobackup
2017-10-17T02:42:19 < upgrdman> hmm is autobackup enabled by default?
2017-10-17T02:43:10 < aandrew> think so
2017-10-17T02:44:42 < upgrdman> i didnt see any autosaves in my project dir
2017-10-17T02:44:48 < upgrdman> is there somewhere else it hides them?
2017-10-17T02:44:59 < Cracki_> it should offer backups upon restart
2017-10-17T02:45:18 < upgrdman> it didnt
2017-10-17T02:45:45 < Cracki_> in the config, you can set the path where it saves them
2017-10-17T02:46:08 < Cracki_> somewhere in %APPDATA%\altium
2017-10-17T02:47:38 < upgrdman> hmm no saves in there :/
2017-10-17T02:47:57 < upgrdman> also lol, i have "altium" "altium2004" and "altiumdesignsummer09viewer"
2017-10-17T02:48:08 < upgrdman> forgot i had those old shitz
2017-10-17T02:53:57 < ohsix> ur old shit!!11
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2017-10-17T03:03:29 < Cracki_> better than finding out you still have a perfboard that's old enough for college
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2017-10-17T03:17:56 < aandrew> heh
2017-10-17T03:18:34 < Thorn> do TH ceramic caps >1µF exist? aliexpress doesn't really seem to have any
2017-10-17T03:22:16 < upgrdman> Thorn, yes, lots
2017-10-17T03:22:17 < upgrdman> https://www.digikey.com/products/en/capacitors/ceramic-capacitors/60?FV=1140050%2Cffe0003c%2Cmu1.2%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu1.5%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu1.8%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu10%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu100%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu15%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu150%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu2.2%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu2.7%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu20%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu22%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu220%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu27%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu3.3%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu33%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu4.7%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu47%C2%
2017-10-17T03:22:17 < upgrdman> B5F%7C2049%2Cmu5.6%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu5%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu6.8%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu68%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu8.2%C2%B5F%7C2049%2Cmu82%C2%B5F%7C2049&mnonly=0&ColumnSort=-1000011&page=1&stock=1&pbfree=0&rohs=0&cad=0&datasheet=0&nstock=0&photo=0&nonrohs=0&newproducts=0&quantity=&ptm=0&fid=0&pageSize=25
2017-10-17T03:22:20 < upgrdman> lol fail
2017-10-17T03:22:34 < upgrdman> digikey > capacitors > through hole > more than 1uF
2017-10-17T03:22:58 < upgrdman> nice price  https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/united-chemi-con/KTD500B227M99A0B00/565-4667-3-ND/6189629
2017-10-17T03:36:15 < capacitor> englishbong
2017-10-17T03:36:19 < capacitor> you there?
2017-10-17T03:45:29 < capacitor> can i have a bit of that
2017-10-17T03:48:28 < Thorn> upgrdman: other prices are pretty nice too
2017-10-17T03:49:03 < capacitor> hi Thorn
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2017-10-17T04:32:07 < englishman> capacitor
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2017-10-17T05:25:52 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/yFhKMtA.gifv
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2017-10-17T05:41:36 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/7arw9xp7x9sz.jpg
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2017-10-17T05:57:57 < aandrew> https://www.stereophile.com/content/audioquest-jitterbug-usb-noise-filter lol fucking lol
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2017-10-17T06:14:31 < Thorn> >Delayed from 3rd Quarter of 2015 and April, September and December 2016. Delayed from 1st Quarter 2017, 2nd Quarter 2017 and 3rd Quarter 2017. Delayed from November 2017.
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2017-10-17T06:40:47 < englishman> $65
2017-10-17T06:40:48 < englishman> lo
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2017-10-17T07:15:14 < englishman> ouch http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20171016PD205.html
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2017-10-17T07:45:24 < dongs> hello faggots
2017-10-17T07:46:46 < dongs> < upgrdman> GOD DAMN IT. altidongs crashed and i lost ~2 hours of pcb work.
2017-10-17T07:46:48 < dongs> lmao
2017-10-17T07:46:53 < dongs> ctrl+s literally after every move
2017-10-17T07:51:41 < englishman> dongs what's the smallest pitch bga you do
2017-10-17T07:52:32 < dongs> uhh i did 0.65 on 2L
2017-10-17T07:53:20 < dongs> "doing" as in routed?
2017-10-17T07:53:31 < dongs> i've also doen 0.5 with via in pad/plugged v ia
2017-10-17T07:53:39 < dongs> for some yamaha mobile synth breakou board
2017-10-17T07:53:40 < englishman> Assembling
2017-10-17T07:53:57 < dongs> 0.5, but that was like 5 one-offs
2017-10-17T07:54:05 < englishman> success rate?
2017-10-17T07:54:06 < dongs> just handplaced that crap.
2017-10-17T07:54:09 < dongs> 100% of course
2017-10-17T07:54:14 < englishman> hmm
2017-10-17T07:54:28 < englishman> checked with xray or just yolod
2017-10-17T07:54:43 < dongs> the boards worked, but iirc i xrayed those too
2017-10-17T07:54:45 < dongs> its been aw hile
2017-10-17T07:54:58 < englishman> I got asked to do some protos with .5
2017-10-17T07:55:06 < englishman> not sure if I should even try
2017-10-17T07:55:16 < dongs> a lot?
2017-10-17T07:55:21 < englishman> nah
2017-10-17T07:55:30 < englishman> rest of the board is trivial tooo
2017-10-17T07:56:07 < dongs> sounds like yamaha shit, dicknplace all you can / have on tape and hand-place the bga
2017-10-17T07:56:11 < dongs> done
2017-10-17T07:56:23 < englishman> yeah I'd hand place
2017-10-17T07:56:33 < dongs> what else woudl fail tehn?
2017-10-17T07:56:37 < dongs> paste etc?
2017-10-17T07:56:38 < englishman> paste
2017-10-17T07:56:40 < englishman> Yea
2017-10-17T07:56:50 < dongs> $600 gets you my dickstater stencil printer
2017-10-17T07:56:53 < dongs> special jew discount
2017-10-17T07:57:05 < englishman> it was $800 half a year ago and you said no them
2017-10-17T07:57:12 < englishman> $600 I'll take it right now
2017-10-17T07:58:03 < englishman> shekels await
2017-10-17T07:58:12 < dongs> (the $200 will probly be shipping :)
2017-10-17T07:58:25 < englishman> no prob
2017-10-17T07:58:40 < englishman> it'd also make my stencils cheaper and faster to get
2017-10-17T07:58:59 < dongs> indeed, just a sheet of stuff isntead of framed
2017-10-17T07:59:02 < englishman> dong why don't you have selective solder
2017-10-17T07:59:40 < dongs> i've been converting a lot of my repeat orders to these stencil and getting less and less use of fgt .nl scamprinter
2017-10-17T08:00:17 < englishman> yeah it would reduce stencil cost by 20% and reduce turnaround by days
2017-10-17T08:01:41 < englishman> i have a boner for this printer, you can't see it, but i can, I'm outdoors and completely naked
2017-10-17T08:08:55 < dongs> haha this APC ethernet thing is made in bangalore
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2017-10-17T08:33:33 < englishman> shipping today dong https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jCD0ZdTR/CS-E7002%20%20%204.jpg
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2017-10-17T08:58:14 < capacitor> ok
2017-10-17T08:59:15 < dongs> crt, you faggot
2017-10-17T08:59:29 < dongs> nice
2017-10-17T09:05:35 < capacitor> o hi
2017-10-17T09:16:08 < dongs> still pumping?
2017-10-17T09:16:33 < capacitor> too busy
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2017-10-17T09:30:48 < dongs> me too
2017-10-17T09:30:52 < dongs> i was checking out the pump room
2017-10-17T09:35:05 < capacitor> any abortions happening there?
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2017-10-17T09:49:04 < zyp> too old for warranty?
2017-10-17T09:49:33 < zyp> ah, yeah
2017-10-17T09:50:41 < zyp> when I complained about some decoloring on my almost three year old U2711, they had a new U2713 at my door 0745 next morning
2017-10-17T09:51:22 < zyp> no reason to keep using broken shit when it'll get replaced for free
2017-10-17T09:52:42 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/ngQHz.JPG <- shit looked like this
2017-10-17T09:53:15 < zyp> uh, no?
2017-10-17T09:53:44 < zyp> looks like some sort of leak between the glass layers or something, idk
2017-10-17T09:54:01 < zyp> yeah
2017-10-17T09:54:54 < zyp> why does it matter, it's the same fucking signal
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2017-10-17T12:33:44 < capacitor> did somebody say matrix?
2017-10-17T12:34:34 < Steffanx> No
2017-10-17T12:35:00 < capacitor> Okay
2017-10-17T12:35:22 < Steffanx> There?
2017-10-17T12:36:57 < capacitor> Where?
2017-10-17T12:39:55 < zyp> *yawn*
2017-10-17T12:43:54 < Steffanx> Here?
2017-10-17T12:44:22 < Steffanx> Someone had to scare the crickets away, zyp
2017-10-17T12:44:46 < capacitor> hmm
2017-10-17T12:44:57 < zyp> I don't seem to get enough sleep nowadays
2017-10-17T12:45:13 < Steffanx> Youre getting older
2017-10-17T12:45:43 < zyp> yesterday morning I decided "fuck it, I have flex hours" and slept in for an hour extra
2017-10-17T12:56:57 < tavish> I'm using FSMC on stm32f4 for connecting SRAM, and it's connected to NE3(FSMC bank 1, sub bank 3), FSMC_Bank1->BTCR[4], FSMC_Bank1->BTCR[4+1 are the correct registers for this, right?]
2017-10-17T12:58:03 < tavish> I'm just not able to read/write from 0x68000000 (and it's not giving me bus fault, so i'm assuming it's configured correctly)
2017-10-17T12:58:25 < tavish> any ideas on debugging?
2017-10-17T13:04:09 < Thorn> ok lcsc did pack my order, let's see what happens with shipping
2017-10-17T13:05:42 < dongs> tavish: have you looked at stdperiph code example
2017-10-17T13:06:36 < tavish> dongs, yeah, I've tried code generated from stm32cubemx, and compared with example code from ST documentation, and also chibiOS wiki
2017-10-17T13:12:41 < tavish> although I think stmcube generated code has some issue, it did not generate code to configure pis as AF_PP
2017-10-17T13:15:20 < zyp> I have some FSMC code somewhere, I can dig it out after I've had lunch
2017-10-17T13:17:51 < tavish> zyp, thanks
2017-10-17T13:27:06 < dongs> STM32F4xx_DSP_StdPeriph_Lib_V1.8.0\Project\STM32F4xx_StdPeriph_Examples\FSMC\FSMC_SRAM
2017-10-17T13:27:12 < dongs> i would take a look at this and copy shit from ther
2017-10-17T13:28:25 < dongs> or rather at stm324xg_eval_fsmc_sram.c
2017-10-17T13:28:34 < dongs> or stm324x7i_eval_fmc_sram.c
2017-10-17T13:28:38 < dongs> since thats wehre actual init is
2017-10-17T13:29:38 < dongs> but yeah, basically turn on power to all bits, set gpio as AF_FMC, and init FMC once
2017-10-17T13:30:26 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/G0tJU
2017-10-17T13:30:42 < zyp> I'm using it to memory map some FPGA shit, not plain SRAM
2017-10-17T13:35:21 < zyp> so, basically, just write BCR3, done
2017-10-17T13:35:32 < zyp> (until you need to tune timings)
2017-10-17T13:39:28 < dongs> such well commented code
2017-10-17T13:39:38 < jpa-> it's self-documenting c++
2017-10-17T13:39:46 < dongs>  FSMC.reg.BCR3 = (1 << 12) | (1 << 7) | (1 << 4) | (1 << 0);
2017-10-17T13:39:48 < dongs> was mostly refering to this
2017-10-17T13:41:20 < zyp> aww
2017-10-17T13:42:05 < dongs> p.set_af(12);
2017-10-17T13:42:06 < dongs> ..
2017-10-17T13:43:11 < zyp> I don't really see the problem with stuff that you can easily look up in the RM
2017-10-17T13:43:31 < zyp> it's way quicker to work with than wading through layers and layers of shit to figure out what's going on
2017-10-17T13:44:15 < jpa-> yeah
2017-10-17T13:45:22 < Thorn> can you stream both ws2812b data and audio (22 or 11kHz) into DAC at the same time on f410? f301? f072?
2017-10-17T13:45:59 < jpa-> what would stop you?
2017-10-17T13:46:34 < jpa-> in general you can do at most 1 dma request per 6 clock cycles IIRC, so 22kHz should be nothing
2017-10-17T13:46:36 < qyx> only an impossible dma stream/channel combination
2017-10-17T13:46:41 < dongs> unless you picked a timer that had same DMA channel
2017-10-17T13:46:56 < dongs> as DAC
2017-10-17T13:47:39 < tavish> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/t6n7F i think i am doing the same things
2017-10-17T13:47:42 < jpa-> and even then, you could just use a random timer for the DAC DMA.. it won't be as well aligned, but some 1us jitter in 22kHz audio will not matter
2017-10-17T13:48:21 < dongs> FSMC_Bank1 - > BTCR[FSMC_Bank + 1]
2017-10-17T13:48:23 < dongs> what the actual fuck
2017-10-17T13:48:24 < capacitor> unless you were an audiophile
2017-10-17T13:48:25 < tavish> ignore weird formatting
2017-10-17T13:48:31 < tavish> yeah, that
2017-10-17T13:48:47 < dongs> does compiler actually properly parse that
2017-10-17T13:48:50 < jpa-> does - > actually work the same as ->? :D
2017-10-17T13:48:53 < tavish> nope
2017-10-17T13:48:54 < dongs> yeah srsly
2017-10-17T13:48:58 < zyp> haha, nice
2017-10-17T13:49:03 < tavish> i messed up copying across things
2017-10-17T13:49:10 < qyx> more spaces than Laurenceb does
2017-10-17T13:49:17 < zyp> this is like the opposite of Laurenceb code
2017-10-17T13:49:21 < dongs> i love spaces but this guy is taking it to the next level
2017-10-17T13:49:26 < jpa-> capacitor: audiophiles wouldn't touch 22kHz audio anyway :P
2017-10-17T13:49:40 < capacitor> indeed
2017-10-17T13:49:43 < dongs> jpa-: coming from STM32 DAC especailly
2017-10-17T13:49:55 < dongs> i donno if its even fast enough to do 22khz?
2017-10-17T13:49:58 < dongs> i thought it was pretty slow
2017-10-17T13:50:01 < Thorn> ok cool
2017-10-17T13:50:03 < jpa-> it can do 1MHz
2017-10-17T13:50:09 < tavish> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/NGP61 there, ignore indentation
2017-10-17T13:50:15 < jpa-> well 1MHz samplerate, but you can get quite passable 100kHz sinewave out
2017-10-17T13:50:18 < zyp> tavish, remind me, are the banks numbered 0-3 or 1-4?
2017-10-17T13:50:31 < qyx> but only with small differences between samples afaik
2017-10-17T13:51:19 < zyp> 1-4 it seems
2017-10-17T13:51:20 < jpa-> IIRC i got close to full-scale 100kHz sine out
2017-10-17T13:51:25 < zyp> tavish, I think you're off by one
2017-10-17T13:51:39 < zyp> hmm, or not
2017-10-17T13:51:46 < qyx> yeah, datasheet says 6us settling time full-scale
2017-10-17T13:52:15 < dongs> so 166khz doing peak to peak change?
2017-10-17T13:52:32 < tavish> zyp, they are named 1 to 4, SRAM is bank 1(memory 0x60000000 on), and to select which chip enable to use, you set BCR1-4 for NE1-4
2017-10-17T13:52:37 < qyx> seems so
2017-10-17T13:52:48 < qyx> 1MS/s only when the samples differs by a single LSB
2017-10-17T13:53:18 < zyp> tavish, yes, so you end up with FSMC_Bank = 4, which makes sense
2017-10-17T13:53:46 < zyp> BTCR[4] is BCR3 and BTCR[5] is BTR3
2017-10-17T13:54:24 < zyp> so I figure your code is sane
2017-10-17T13:54:53 < zyp> have you tried scoping NE3 for activity when you access addrs in that bank?
2017-10-17T13:56:48 < tavish> I did, I was able to see it only with trigger mode on oscilloscope. I'll try again. i hope this devkit is not the problem
2017-10-17T13:57:23 < tavish> there's a 10k pull up resistor on this pin
2017-10-17T14:00:19 < dongs> is it a waveshare board?
2017-10-17T14:00:28 < dongs> or some cloned garbage
2017-10-17T14:01:16 < zyp> my code is for a waveshare board, but with a FPGA plugged into the SRAM socket
2017-10-17T14:01:37 < zyp> dongs of course knows all this, since he made the FPGA board for me :p
2017-10-17T14:02:02 < tavish> well it is a noname 'devkit' for a screen. they have the SRAM chip, but their own samples don't use it anywhere, so i am not 100% sure if they have tested it, though the schematic looks fine
2017-10-17T14:04:59 < dongs> those HY-STM32 and figher and wahtever chi9nese shits generally work OK
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2017-10-17T14:27:53 < Laurenceb> is dongs still in uk?
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2017-10-17T14:58:06 < dongs> no
2017-10-17T14:58:12 < dongs> back in my innovation studio
2017-10-17T15:00:40 < qyx> I saw a maker quality 360deg camera
2017-10-17T15:00:46 < qyx> with 4x arducam
2017-10-17T15:01:38 < qyx> but acually I am thinking of stuffing 8x OV2640 cameras into a tube and multiplex them on a DCMI
2017-10-17T15:01:47 < qyx> just for the fun
2017-10-17T15:02:35 < dongs> just for the autism
2017-10-17T15:02:59 < jpa-> stuff usb webcams in a tube :P
2017-10-17T15:03:12 < qyx> not enough stm32 then
2017-10-17T15:03:13 < jpa-> and you'll get reasonable 360deg video
2017-10-17T15:04:18 < qyx> meh video
2017-10-17T15:04:28 < qyx> I want a nice mountain panorama every hour
2017-10-17T15:04:54 < jpa-> put a dlsr on a servo :P
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2017-10-17T15:07:32 < qyx> you are not being motivational
2017-10-17T15:08:03 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-17T15:08:09 < Laurenceb> gdb is still failing epically
2017-10-17T15:08:19 < Laurenceb> run causes it to segfault
2017-10-17T15:10:40 < dongs> gdb
2017-10-17T15:10:42 < dongs> need i say more?
2017-10-17T15:10:45 < Laurenceb> heh
2017-10-17T15:10:59 < Laurenceb> spent most of yesterday trying to make debugging work
2017-10-17T15:11:11 < Laurenceb> looks like it will be repeated today
2017-10-17T15:11:33 < qyx> have you swapped d+/d- yet?
2017-10-17T15:11:50 < Laurenceb> ../../gdb/gdb/inferior.c:361: internal-error: find_inferior_pid: Assertion `pid != 0' failed.
2017-10-17T15:11:56 < jpa-> for some reason only target remote works for me nowadays, target extended doesn't
2017-10-17T15:12:06 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-17T15:12:20 < Laurenceb> does target remote support run?
2017-10-17T15:14:40 < jpa-> no, you'll have to do "monitor reset halt"
2017-10-17T15:14:59 < zyp> eww
2017-10-17T15:15:22 < zyp> speaking of debugging, jlink showed up yesterday
2017-10-17T15:15:27 < dongs> > manually typing shit into gdb
2017-10-17T15:15:30 < dongs> which one did you get
2017-10-17T15:15:31 < zyp> I'm not impressed
2017-10-17T15:15:32 < dongs> the real deal?
2017-10-17T15:15:35 < zyp> base
2017-10-17T15:15:37 < dongs> mhm
2017-10-17T15:16:07 < zyp> this fucking shit can't read out memory while target is memory, segger haven't implemented support for it on hercules yet
2017-10-17T15:16:31 < Laurenceb> jpa-: how do I use that?
2017-10-17T15:16:41 < dongs> while target is running you meaN?
2017-10-17T15:16:42 < Laurenceb> say I want to start execution again, what do I do?
2017-10-17T15:16:44 < zyp> and for some reason code composter studio is failing to flash through it also
2017-10-17T15:16:46 < dongs> thats .... gay what the fuck?
2017-10-17T15:16:56 < tomeaton17> mon reset halt and then c
2017-10-17T15:16:58 < jpa-> Laurenceb: "monitor reset halt" and then c
2017-10-17T15:17:02 < jpa-> yeah
2017-10-17T15:17:07 < jpa-> you can define a macro for it :P
2017-10-17T15:17:10 < Laurenceb> I dont understand
2017-10-17T15:17:14 < Laurenceb> c continues?
2017-10-17T15:17:16 < zyp> dongs, yeah, ref. http://forum.segger.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3527
2017-10-17T15:17:16 < jpa-> yeah
2017-10-17T15:17:38 < Laurenceb> oh a macro to do "monitor reset halt"   ?
2017-10-17T15:17:41 < jpa-> not sure why gdb + openocd seems to break all the time
2017-10-17T15:17:50 < jpa-> yeah, you might call it "run" ;)
2017-10-17T15:17:56 < Laurenceb> ah cool ok
2017-10-17T15:18:05 < zyp> "Support for general memory accesses is already on our internal ToDo, but whithout a planned release date yet."
2017-10-17T15:18:07 < tomeaton17> Mine seems to be pretty reliable
2017-10-17T15:18:21 < jpa-> only breaks on upgrades, though
2017-10-17T15:18:36 < zyp> hmm, not just a hercules limitation, all cortex-r and cortex-a from the sound of it
2017-10-17T15:18:54 < jpa-> i have some work projects that use age-old gcc.. then new gdb doesn't really support all the old gcc debugging symbols, and old gdb doesn't want to talk to new openocd etc.
2017-10-17T15:19:00 < zyp> and yes, I've tried ozone, same limitation there
2017-10-17T15:19:07 < Laurenceb> ok I have a little success with debugging
2017-10-17T15:19:09 < tavish> i'm using https://github.com/electronut/ElectronutLabs-Bumpy / blackmagicprobe, not openocd needed
2017-10-17T15:19:15 < Laurenceb> sometimes it works, so board is ok
2017-10-17T15:19:30 < Laurenceb> but other times the first spi transaction jams with State = HAL_SPI_STATE_BUSY_TX
2017-10-17T15:20:00 < tomeaton17> I guess I have only really worked on new code so its not a problem for me
2017-10-17T15:20:03 < jpa-> tavish: yeah, blackmagicprobe is nice, though it fails for stm32f407 rev 1 which has some flash size declared wrong or something
2017-10-17T15:20:08 < jpa-> should fix sometime
2017-10-17T15:20:20 < dongs> zyp, what is jlink-rtt
2017-10-17T15:20:26 < zyp> idk
2017-10-17T15:20:27 < dongs> is that a license?
2017-10-17T15:20:39 < dongs> oh, thats SWO shit
2017-10-17T15:20:42 < tavish> right to type
2017-10-17T15:20:57 < zyp> isn't it the io buffer shit?
2017-10-17T15:21:09 < jpa-> oh, bumpy looks nice also, been looking for such a very simple bmp platform
2017-10-17T15:21:47 < tomeaton17> The bumpy pcb triggers me
2017-10-17T15:22:10 < dongs> SEGGER's Real Time Transfer (RTT) is the new technology for interactive user I/O in embedded applications. It combines the advantages of SWO and semihosting at very high performance.
2017-10-17T15:22:14 < dongs> yeah it is swo
2017-10-17T15:22:30 < zyp> okay
2017-10-17T15:23:00 < karlp> no, it's shared memory
2017-10-17T15:23:03 < karlp> it's not swo
2017-10-17T15:23:04 < zyp> jpa-, the nonstandard connector looks a bit annoying
2017-10-17T15:23:20 < karlp> you need to link a lib into your app to use rtt
2017-10-17T15:23:34 < jpa-> zyp: maybe, but i only use nonstandard connectors anyway ;)
2017-10-17T15:23:37 < tavish> zyp, it's just a 2 row berg strip, 0.1 inch
2017-10-17T15:23:51 < karlp> the api is available enough that there's a non-segger implemnetation too http://openocd.zylin.com/#/c/4055/
2017-10-17T15:23:55 < zyp> tavish, yes, that's nonstandard
2017-10-17T15:24:02 < zyp> tavish, standard is 0.05
2017-10-17T15:24:36 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/z9sDpWcM
2017-10-17T15:24:40 < Laurenceb> does this look sane?
2017-10-17T15:24:42 < jpa-> the standard pinouts suck for not having rx/tx etc.
2017-10-17T15:24:46 < dongs> no
2017-10-17T15:24:48 < Laurenceb> sometimes it works fine
2017-10-17T15:24:51 < tavish> oh, wel i'm used to cheap tools which come with jumper cables so i don't even have standard cables
2017-10-17T15:24:53 < Laurenceb> sometimes hangs on line 82
2017-10-17T15:25:01 < dongs> Laurenceb: refusing to click any links from you until you run them through "indent -kr -nut -l400"
2017-10-17T15:25:17 < jpa-> and besides, there are so many "standards" that it doesn't help much.. i just jumper wire also
2017-10-17T15:26:12 < Laurenceb> looks like I'm doing something wrong with my use of st hal?
2017-10-17T15:26:35 < dongs> um
2017-10-17T15:26:44 < dongs> oh, right, you're waiting later
2017-10-17T15:26:51 < karlp> why do people put usb A plugs on devices linke that bumpy,
2017-10-17T15:26:59 < karlp> should be a fucking B socket.
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2017-10-17T15:27:18 < dongs> that board is surely made with kikecad right
2017-10-17T15:28:08 < Laurenceb> dongs: so I can just wait right?
2017-10-17T15:30:43 < qyx> karlp: at least it is not an A socket
2017-10-17T15:32:03 < dongs> Laurenceb: yeah seems
2017-10-17T15:32:10 < Laurenceb> wtf then
2017-10-17T15:32:17 < Laurenceb> something must be wrong somewhere
2017-10-17T15:32:26 < Laurenceb> k thanks
2017-10-17T15:32:45 < karlp> qyx: well, yes.  I'm also glad it doesn't have like dual db9s or something on it, but...
2017-10-17T15:34:01 < dongs> zyp, what does jlinklicensemanger say for you when you cilck 'licenses in eulator'
2017-10-17T15:35:38 < zyp> why? I don't have all the fancy licenses if that's what you're asking
2017-10-17T15:35:57 < dongs> yeah i wanna see what ones you have
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2017-10-17T15:37:50 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/rXHDTmKg
2017-10-17T15:38:02 < dongs> it's a trap!
2017-10-17T15:38:08 < zyp> dongs, GDB
2017-10-17T15:38:24 < Laurenceb> Lock = HAL_UNLOCKED,  State = HAL_SPI_STATE_BUSY_TX, ErrorCode = 0}
2017-10-17T15:38:32 < Laurenceb> dunno what that means
2017-10-17T15:38:34 < dongs> that's it?
2017-10-17T15:38:39 < zyp> yep
2017-10-17T15:38:45 < Laurenceb> stays like that forever
2017-10-17T15:38:45 < dongs> if you can /notice me your S/N i can maybe improve on that.
2017-10-17T15:39:43 < zyp> I don't really need any improvements right now, and I'd rather not brick it
2017-10-17T15:40:17 < dongs> haha. its just software thing. nothing gets written into the device, tho i see there's now an API to do permanent licenses as well
2017-10-17T15:40:31 < dongs> bbl
2017-10-17T15:40:36 < Laurenceb> maybe I should try st forumz
2017-10-17T15:40:40 < Laurenceb> clive1 tiem
2017-10-17T15:40:44 < zyp> the main thing I'd like right now is for code composter studio to stop fucking around with it
2017-10-17T15:40:57 < dongs> clive hates hal
2017-10-17T15:41:04 < dongs> he aint gonna answer your shit
2017-10-17T15:41:22 < zyp> it's complaining about shit like
2017-10-17T15:41:22 < Laurenceb> doh
2017-10-17T15:41:23 < zyp> CortexR4: Trouble Writing Memory Block at 0xffe0 on Page 0 of Length 0x5068: Flash download failed! ...
2017-10-17T15:41:35 < Laurenceb> cucked by hal
2017-10-17T15:41:36 < zyp> which is super descriptive
2017-10-17T15:42:45 < zyp> https://e2e.ti.com/support/microcontrollers/hercules/f/312/p/469924/1688399 <- this shit talks about it being related to ECC generation for flash
2017-10-17T15:42:53 < Laurenceb> unless...
2017-10-17T15:42:58 < zyp> but the options they're talking about changing doesn't exist in my CCS
2017-10-17T15:43:09 < Laurenceb> I have to wait to hal to reach ready state before I use it
2017-10-17T15:43:16 < Laurenceb> or there is some special init proceedure
2017-10-17T15:43:27 < Laurenceb> lulz that would be failtastic
2017-10-17T15:43:32 < zyp> anyway
2017-10-17T15:44:07 < zyp> I don't really need CCS anymore, I can already build indepentently of it, and debugging through ozone works
2017-10-17T15:51:33 < Laurenceb> is there some special startup procedure I'm missing
2017-10-17T15:51:43  * Laurenceb is just using the autogenerated code
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2017-10-17T15:56:01 < Laurenceb> ah
2017-10-17T15:56:06 < Laurenceb> HAL is unlocked
2017-10-17T15:56:22 < Laurenceb> something is pretty wrong if its unlocked and spi is busy
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2017-10-17T16:03:18 < Laurenceb> nope thats not an error
2017-10-17T16:03:24 < Laurenceb> st forumz tiem
2017-10-17T16:08:51 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/message/171891-stm32f042-spi-dma-problems
2017-10-17T16:10:38 < Laurenceb> woot I'm on goolgez https://encrypted.google.com/patents/WO2017009669A1?cl=pt-PT
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2017-10-17T16:16:13 < Laurenceb> "monitor" command not supported by this target.
2017-10-17T16:16:18 < Laurenceb> failure intensifies
2017-10-17T16:18:10 < Laurenceb> anyone here got "run" working in gdb
2017-10-17T16:18:14 < Laurenceb> its kind of needed
2017-10-17T16:20:26 < Rob235> oh yea, check out the logo :) https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-10-17T16:21:29 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: you need to use "target extended-remote" to be able to use "run"
2017-10-17T16:22:17 < Laurenceb> arggg
2017-10-17T16:22:26 < Laurenceb> so its impossible to use gdb then?
2017-10-17T16:22:30 < Laurenceb> wtf
2017-10-17T16:22:35 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: what?
2017-10-17T16:22:57 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: gdb has "run" command all right
2017-10-17T16:23:01 < Laurenceb> with extended-remote run causes segfault
2017-10-17T16:23:09 < Laurenceb> I'll pastebin
2017-10-17T16:23:15 < PaulFertser> gdb itself segfaults? the hell
2017-10-17T16:23:33 < Laurenceb> ../../gdb/gdb/inferior.c:361: internal-error: find_inferior_pid: Assertion `pid != 0' failed.
2017-10-17T16:23:33 < Laurenceb> A problem internal to GDB has been detected,
2017-10-17T16:23:33 < Laurenceb> further debugging may prove unreliable.
2017-10-17T16:24:08 < karlp> what version of gdb are you using, from where?
2017-10-17T16:24:39 < karlp> "monitor" not supported by target is pretty gnarly too.
2017-10-17T16:24:47 < karlp> what is gdb talking to?
2017-10-17T16:25:01 < Laurenceb> GNU gdb (7.10-1ubuntu3+9) 7.10
2017-10-17T16:25:01 < Laurenceb> Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
2017-10-17T16:25:01 < Laurenceb> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
2017-10-17T16:25:04 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-17T16:25:19 < Laurenceb> I'm not sure this is from launchpad
2017-10-17T16:25:22 < Laurenceb> I'll replace it
2017-10-17T16:25:28 < Laurenceb> it's talking to texane
2017-10-17T16:25:55 < zyp> sounds like that's some generic gdb, not arm-gdb
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2017-10-17T16:26:09 < tomeaton17> I have gdb working with the f04, "run" causes some issues, but mon reset halt + c works fine
2017-10-17T16:26:16 < Laurenceb> This GDB was configured as "--host=x86_64-linux-gnu --target=arm-none-eabi".
2017-10-17T16:26:20 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-17T16:26:39 < tomeaton17> are you using arm-none-eabi-gdb?
2017-10-17T16:26:44 < Laurenceb> I'll make sure i have launchpad gdb
2017-10-17T16:26:47 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-17T16:26:48 < karlp> if you're not using the gcc-arm-embedded binaries, no-one's going to want to help you
2017-10-17T16:28:04 < PaulFertser> Well, for me debian multiarch gdb behaved properly.
2017-10-17T16:28:21 < tomeaton17> I am using 7.11 from ubuntu main repo and it works fine
2017-10-17T16:28:56 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-17T16:32:27 < englishman> dongs where do i send money for stencil printer
2017-10-17T16:33:29 < Steffanx> My paypal account. You know the address
2017-10-17T16:33:50 < englishman> I do but I doubt you will send me a dope printer.
2017-10-17T16:33:51 < Laurenceb> stencil printer lulwut
2017-10-17T16:33:59 < Laurenceb> its it called a laser cutter?
2017-10-17T16:34:04 < englishman> no
2017-10-17T16:34:11 < englishman> paste printer
2017-10-17T16:34:14 < Laurenceb> oh
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2017-10-17T16:39:30 < Laurenceb> derp
2017-10-17T16:39:50 < Laurenceb> gcc-arm-embedded gdb seems to work correctly
2017-10-17T16:40:04 < Laurenceb> but spi is still broken
2017-10-17T16:45:03 < Laurenceb> also   __HAL_DBGMCU_FREEZE_IWDG(); doesnt have any effect
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2017-10-17T16:52:44 < Laurenceb> ok wtf
2017-10-17T16:52:53 < Laurenceb> all the hardware works fine
2017-10-17T16:53:34 < Laurenceb> but __HAL_DBGMCU_FREEZE_IWDG() has no effect and spi jams up first time the board is powered up
2017-10-17T16:53:47 < Laurenceb> it needs a watchdog reset to fix it
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2017-10-17T17:33:37 < Laurenceb> http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/1/19/11/61/@/2442772-grichka-bogdanov-au-village-lors-du-tour-opengraph_1200-2.jpg
2017-10-17T17:34:34 < Laurenceb> they actually look normal here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/PHOTOS_IGOR_GRICHKA.jpg/220px-PHOTOS_IGOR_GRICHKA.jpg
2017-10-17T17:34:45 < Laurenceb> I suspect plastic surgery
2017-10-17T17:35:22 < tomeaton17> Looks like they got attacked by bees
2017-10-17T17:35:46 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdanov_affair
2017-10-17T17:35:49 < Laurenceb> emdrive tier
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2017-10-17T17:37:19 < Laurenceb> > His advisors subsequently agreed to allow him to obtain a doctorate if he could publish three peer-reviewed journal articles
2017-10-17T17:37:21 < Laurenceb> wut
2017-10-17T17:38:34 < tomeaton17> They just look incredibly strange
2017-10-17T17:39:06 < Laurenceb> oh the wiki page they look fairly normal
2017-10-17T17:39:23 < Laurenceb> I suspect Michael Jackson phenomenon
2017-10-17T17:39:33 < tomeaton17> Even in that picture...
2017-10-17T17:39:40 < Laurenceb> lel
2017-10-17T17:40:51 < Laurenceb> >The Bogdanov's [sic] papers consist of buzzwords from various fields of mathematical physics, string theory and quantum gravity, strung together into syntactically correct, but semantically meaningless
2017-10-17T17:40:55 < Laurenceb> my sides.jpg
2017-10-17T17:42:24 < aandrew> I suspect their papers were actually part of a larger thesis on the inanity of academic research
2017-10-17T17:42:38 < Laurenceb> I resemble that remark
2017-10-17T17:42:59 < Laurenceb> I should try to get my paper on laser doppler flowmetry published again :(
2017-10-17T17:43:12 < Laurenceb> how come emdrive is peer reviewed but my work fails
2017-10-17T17:44:36 < Laurenceb> 7 rejections :(*
2017-10-17T17:45:27 < zyp> > worse than emdrive
2017-10-17T17:46:26 < Laurenceb> ikr
2017-10-17T17:47:56 < Laurenceb> need to add overunity to it
2017-10-17T17:48:38 < Laurenceb> http://jnaudin.free.fr/
2017-10-17T17:49:31 < Laurenceb> copypasta some shit from there
2017-10-17T17:53:25 < tomeaton17> What he says about the pendulum is hilarious
2017-10-17T18:02:22 < tomeaton17> Looks like horribly botched plastic surgery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUoB2_MI4lc
2017-10-17T18:03:56 < tomeaton17> lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqOp21jBpI a quick run down
2017-10-17T18:08:58 < Laurenceb> top kek
2017-10-17T18:14:07 < Laurenceb> looks like I broke spi dma callbacks
2017-10-17T18:14:09 < Laurenceb>     status=HAL_DMA_RegisterCallback(&hdma_spi1_rx, HAL_DMA_XFER_CPLT_CB_ID, Handle_LSM6DSL_Read);//tx/rx uses rx complete callback handling
2017-10-17T18:14:18 < Laurenceb> sane for rxtx  ?
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2017-10-17T18:33:16 < Laurenceb>   /* Set the SPI TxDMA transfer complete callback */
2017-10-17T18:33:16 < Laurenceb>   hspi->hdmatx->XferCpltCallback = SPI_DMATransmitCplt;
2017-10-17T18:33:19 < Laurenceb> wtf st
2017-10-17T18:33:36 < Laurenceb> just overwrite the callback functions to their own functions hidden somewhere
2017-10-17T18:33:40 < Laurenceb> no wonder shit breaks
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2017-10-17T18:35:38 < Laurenceb> reeee callback spaghetti
2017-10-17T18:36:50 < Laurenceb> no wonder it only works with polling
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2017-10-17T18:42:37 < aandrew> can any of you find a datasheet on an 8-pin IC with marking "BT3167" ?
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2017-10-17T18:55:19 < tomeaton17> Ughh kicad really is awful it crashes as soons as I go into the pcb editor
2017-10-17T18:55:33 < tomeaton17> No way I can convice my boss to get altium
2017-10-17T19:02:02 < qyx> check diptrace, dongs favorite
2017-10-17T19:02:02 < aandrew> well then fight through it and when he asks why you're behind schedule indicate that you spent 25 hours fighting the tool
2017-10-17T19:02:11 < aandrew> dicktrace, ugh
2017-10-17T19:03:54 < Thorn> dicktrace >> kicad
2017-10-17T19:08:20 < c10ud> tbh I've been kicad-ing and schematic wise it's not too bad
2017-10-17T19:08:48 < c10ud> but, I only tried orcad and eagle as competition
2017-10-17T19:08:51 < Thorn> btw dicktrace never crashed on me
2017-10-17T19:11:58 < karlp> yeah, like altum is ssoomehow stable
2017-10-17T19:12:07 < karlp> you guys regularly bitch about altium exploding
2017-10-17T19:13:54 < upgrdman> i've never had gEDA crash on me :)
2017-10-17T19:16:22 < Thorn> you never gave it an opportunity to crash by actually using it lol
2017-10-17T19:17:17 < upgrdman> heh. this was done in gEDA and it worked on the first rev: http://www.farrellf.com/temp/first2layerPcb.jpg
2017-10-17T19:17:44 < upgrdman> but that project was full retard. no schematic. seriously. just laid out traces while looking at datasheets and notes.
2017-10-17T19:18:03 < karlp> (was that because geda was so hard to use.....)
2017-10-17T19:18:21 < upgrdman> geda is actually very easy to use. it just has no useful features
2017-10-17T19:18:55 < upgrdman> also, looking at that old pcb of mine, lol: ~no decoupling capacitors
2017-10-17T19:19:13 < upgrdman> like 3 100nF on that PCB and that's it.
2017-10-17T19:19:36 < upgrdman> somehow it actually worked and was reliable too.
2017-10-17T19:20:51 < tomeaton17> Its nice for schematics yes. But for it doesn't work for pcbs
2017-10-17T19:24:39 < Steffanx> kicad never crashed on me...
2017-10-17T19:24:44 < qyx> looks like win-linux discussion
2017-10-17T19:25:03 < Steffanx> macos 4 lyfe.
2017-10-17T19:25:41 < upgrdman> you misspelled lunix
2017-10-17T19:26:37 < Thorn> macos life: you have to select 10.13 sdk to build qt apps after an xcode upgrade (macos itself is still 10.12)
2017-10-17T19:27:34 < upgrdman> also gay ass menu-bar-to-top making multitasking a pain
2017-10-17T19:28:23 < Thorn> the menu is cool
2017-10-17T19:28:35 < upgrdman> found the faggot
2017-10-17T19:30:35 < Steffanx> i know someone who posts dick pics all the time..
2017-10-17T19:31:38 < Steffanx> at least we can give you the love you need upgrdman
2017-10-17T19:31:53 < upgrdman> <3
2017-10-17T19:35:11 < Steffanx> bought new surface book yet?
2017-10-17T19:36:59 < tomeaton17> yeah kicad crashes because I am using a hipster lunix window manager
2017-10-17T19:37:29 < tomeaton17> *lfn
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2017-10-17T19:37:57 < Steffanx> ^
2017-10-17T19:38:04 < upgrdman> Steffanx, when did it come out?
2017-10-17T19:38:14 < upgrdman> did i miss some epic speech by panos panay!?!!
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2017-10-17T19:38:46 < upgrdman> also, i wish the Book had the dickstand on the tablet part. that dickstand is like 90% of what makes the surface tablet so orgasmic
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2017-10-17T19:39:54 < upgrdman> AHH FUCK THERES A NEW SURFACE BOOK
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2017-10-17T19:40:14 < upgrdman> tempting
2017-10-17T19:40:37 < tomeaton17> the ipad pro is so much more functional
2017-10-17T19:40:41 < tomeaton17> kek
2017-10-17T19:41:58 < Steffanx> today i think upgrdman
2017-10-17T19:42:31 < upgrdman> ohh it has usb-c
2017-10-17T19:42:36 < upgrdman> i wonder if it can charge from usb-c
2017-10-17T19:46:14 < upgrdman> hmm think i'll wait for the next surface bro
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2017-10-17T20:55:42 < Getty> mh i am confused, after a hell of a debugging action i found out that setting a time_t variable that is defined in main.c (from inside main.c via a time_t) blowed up some memory
2017-10-17T20:56:13 < Getty> and now i moved this variable outside of main.c volatile and set it from inside main.c still, and now all is fine again
2017-10-17T20:56:57 < Getty> why is that? what i miss to understand?
2017-10-17T20:58:52 < Steffanx> wut?
2017-10-17T20:59:03 < Getty> it was not directly tho, when i debugged it, it always pointed to vector.h triggering the wrong memory change (some bool flipped to true that was the start of all this)
2017-10-17T20:59:17 < Getty> but i was now able to pinpoint it to that what i described above
2017-10-17T20:59:48 < Getty> i have a time_t xxx; in main.c and some extern time_t yyy; in rtc.{h|c}, and all i do is xxx = yyy; in main.c and that triggered the problem
2017-10-17T21:00:10 < Getty> now i moved that time_t xxx as extern volatile time_t xxx to rtc.h and it............ oh wait ok its not gone
2017-10-17T21:00:17 < Getty> ok then it wasnt that, damn
2017-10-17T21:01:22 < Steffanx> hehe
2017-10-17T21:01:37 < Getty> yeah its crazy, one bool flips over to true randomly at some point
2017-10-17T21:01:41 < qyx> uh
2017-10-17T21:01:46 < qyx> btw from the conceptual point of view
2017-10-17T21:01:53 < qyx> if the rtc module owns the time_t variable
2017-10-17T21:02:07 < qyx> I would define it as a global in the rtc.c and then declare extern in the rtc.h
2017-10-17T21:02:38 < qyx> if anyone wants to use your rtc module, including rtc.h would allow them to use the time_t variable
2017-10-17T21:02:59 < Getty> well technical the time_t xxx is just a variable relevant for main.c
2017-10-17T21:03:09 < Getty> so i thought it was totally fine there
2017-10-17T21:03:41 < qyx> or maybe I just misunderstood you
2017-10-17T21:03:43 < qyx> whatever
2017-10-17T21:04:03 < Getty> yeah it was not that of a problem, just moving this variable seemed to have "moved" the problem
2017-10-17T21:04:10 < Getty> thats why i thought that was related
2017-10-17T21:04:19 < Getty> i am not getting it
2017-10-17T21:09:10 < englishman> kakimir: new cows https://i.imgur.com/nWgrWvK.jpg
2017-10-17T21:09:33 < kakimir> highland
2017-10-17T21:09:35 < fenugrec> Getty reduce to the smallest example that exhibits the problem; have gcc (or whatever) generate .map and .lst files and compare
2017-10-17T21:09:40 < englishman> yes
2017-10-17T21:09:56 < Thorn> attn englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeGGp8dTqAI
2017-10-17T21:10:08 < Getty> fenugrec: if i know the code part which triggers the problem, then i could make a small example but then i could also just solve it ;)
2017-10-17T21:10:16 < Getty> fenugrec: i am still trying to find the bastard that triggers it
2017-10-17T21:10:17 < kakimir> cute things
2017-10-17T21:10:29 < kakimir> I wonder if they see anything
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2017-10-17T21:10:56 < BrainDamage> thermally insulated cows for harsh canadian winters?
2017-10-17T21:11:13 < englishman> yes, actually they can stay outdoors all year
2017-10-17T21:11:17 < fenugrec> Getty yes, what I mean is strip code  until it's a small enough example you can paste somewhare or at least realistically look at the disasm
2017-10-17T21:11:29 < kakimir> http://www.highlandcattle.fi/images/yleiskuvat/highland_cattle_ominaisuuksia.jpg
2017-10-17T21:11:47 < Getty> fenugrec: its a huge project for an electronic product that is used by some hundreds people already ;)
2017-10-17T21:11:52 < kakimir> yours look like a bison thought?
2017-10-17T21:12:12 < Getty> fenugrec: i can pinpoint between which commits it happened but sadly i am doing not many commits often and so its harder to get precise to the point
2017-10-17T21:12:36 < Getty> fenugrec: with the diff and some trial and error i am nearing it down
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2017-10-17T21:12:53 < kakimir> or maybe not
2017-10-17T21:13:10 < Getty> fenugrec: all the changes i made are more or less trivial one of those must include some big mistake that hits the wrong memory
2017-10-17T21:13:26 < kakimir> https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/39/188539-004-F143E296.jpg
2017-10-17T21:15:21 < fenugrec> Getty is it sensitive to compiler version or more likely optimization settings
2017-10-17T21:15:56 < Getty> i didnt changed any compile settings yet
2017-10-17T21:16:58 < qyx> englishman: are those yours?
2017-10-17T21:17:23 < fenugrec> random hunch, if you're printf'ing stuff with the wrong formatters, all bets are off
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2017-10-17T21:39:18 < englishman> qyx: no but they are moving in
2017-10-17T21:41:58 < Steffanx> Easy meat..
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2017-10-17T21:55:19 < capacitor> stffn
2017-10-17T21:56:46 < Steffanx> damn you are early.
2017-10-17T21:56:49 < Steffanx> and never left :o
2017-10-17T21:57:28 < capacitor> That's cause someone left the oven on
2017-10-17T21:57:43 < Steffanx> lolwut?
2017-10-17T21:58:45 < capacitor> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YPSUGUSI/IMG_0744.PNG
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2017-10-17T21:59:19 < Steffanx> -_-
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2017-10-17T22:00:53 < Steffanx> ok sleep tight capacitor
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2017-10-17T22:03:16 < capacitor> Can't sleep when she's out roasting
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2017-10-17T22:10:09 < Steffanx> Thank you, welcome
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2017-10-17T22:21:30 < capacitor> Hah
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2017-10-18T00:26:12 < capacitor> probably hungry
2017-10-18T00:29:58 < englishman> hi capacitor
2017-10-18T00:30:09 < capacitor> good morning mate
2017-10-18T00:32:44 < englishman> kakimir when you saw bladerunner was it dubbed in finnish
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2017-10-18T00:48:50 < kakimir> englishman: no
2017-10-18T00:49:00 < kakimir> always subbed
2017-10-18T00:49:31 < englishman> fuuu
2017-10-18T00:49:42 < englishman> closest place that isn't dubbed is like 1.5h
2017-10-18T00:51:09 < kakimir> I don't really need the subs
2017-10-18T01:15:39 < kakimir> wouldn't drive 3hours
2017-10-18T01:15:49 < kakimir> wait for torrent
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2017-10-18T03:38:26 < upgrdman> the circle of life is complete   https://i.imgur.com/MO0e7h7.gifv
2017-10-18T03:44:34 < dongs> https://www.segger.com/products/development-tools/embedded-studio/ what the shit is this
2017-10-18T03:44:39 < dongs> screenshots dont look like eclipse
2017-10-18T03:44:45 < dongs> why is segger making yet another IDE
2017-10-18T03:44:55 < dongs> https://www.segger.com/fileadmin/images/products/embdedded-studio/embedded-studio-firststart.png
2017-10-18T03:49:14 < upgrdman> dongs, hmm that kinda looks familiar
2017-10-18T03:49:30 < upgrdman> but i dont remember the ide. maybe it was codeblocks?
2017-10-18T03:50:10 < dongs> looks very similar to crossworks
2017-10-18T03:57:20 < upgrdman> dongs, so is nigger embedded studio just a free-ish version to get people hooked?
2017-10-18T03:57:35 < dongs> looks like, probably still better than dickclipse
2017-10-18T03:58:06 < dongs> i mean ozone thing is almost an IDE at this point as well just lacks compiling
2017-10-18T03:58:10 < dongs> it has full source code debugging and stuff
2017-10-18T03:58:33 < upgrdman> lul  https://i.redd.it/4h3knv30tdsz.png
2017-10-18T04:00:17 < upgrdman> well i decided to get back into rc heli's. my lipo's should arrive tomorrow and i even signed up for ama again.
2017-10-18T04:00:50 < upgrdman> lets hope i dont immediately crash, since the two heli's i still have are both discontinued and ~no parts available.
2017-10-18T04:01:32 < upgrdman> anyone here flown 450size, 500size AND 600size heli's? i've flown 450 and 600 sizes. tempted to try 500.
2017-10-18T04:01:48 < upgrdman> not sure if 500 is a gimmick, or a nice compromise.
2017-10-18T04:02:24 < englishman> sure, but why are you wasting your money on ama
2017-10-18T04:04:57 < upgrdman> i want to fly at a local park that has an official (city approved) flying field, and they require ama
2017-10-18T04:05:08 < upgrdman> homowners insurance isnt good enough for them :/
2017-10-18T04:05:29 < upgrdman> englishman, what 500 have you flown?
2017-10-18T04:06:15 < englishman> oh, didnt see the AND lol
2017-10-18T04:06:20 < englishman> no just 450 and under
2017-10-18T04:06:24 < englishman> and tailin hovering
2017-10-18T04:07:23 < upgrdman> o ok
2017-10-18T04:07:47 < sync> with the 450s isn't it cheaper to just get a new one for like $100 or whatever they cost now
2017-10-18T04:08:17 < upgrdman> prolly
2017-10-18T04:08:32 < upgrdman> but i have 2 450's and a few parts, so might as well fly them until they crash.
2017-10-18T04:08:39 < englishman> yes
2017-10-18T04:08:44 < englishman> the garage is full of planes and shit
2017-10-18T04:08:50 < englishman> lots of stuff to smash
2017-10-18T04:08:52 < upgrdman> when i used to fly, if i didnt push beyond my limits, i could easily get >50 flights before a crash
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2017-10-18T04:09:23 < upgrdman> i've even had heli's that i never crashed
2017-10-18T04:09:50 < upgrdman> sold my hirobo shuttle sceadu 30, it had prolly 15 gallons if fuel on it, no crashes. only 1 forced auto.
2017-10-18T04:10:19 < upgrdman> and at maybe 12 flights per gallon... that's ~180 flight
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2017-10-18T04:14:47 < branjb> if you're not crashing you're not flying
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2017-10-18T04:15:43 < branjb> is there a feature in altium to select objects by parameter?  ie, select all vias with diameter 15 and change it to something else
2017-10-18T04:15:49 < dongs> of course?
2017-10-18T04:16:08 < dongs> right click the via, find similar objects
2017-10-18T04:16:19 < upgrdman> it's weird seeing an industrial robot being "careful"   https://i.imgur.com/CMKfWgO.gifv
2017-10-18T04:16:21 < dongs> then fill in teh params to search, ilke size 15 or whaterver, set to same
2017-10-18T04:16:30 < branjb> thanks dongs
2017-10-18T04:16:39 < dongs> once selected, the pcb inspector on right side will show them all
2017-10-18T04:16:46 < dongs> then change the 15->30 or whatever and all will updatre
2017-10-18T04:20:16 < sync> still not jerk controlled upgrdman
2017-10-18T04:20:47 < upgrdman> sync, iirc jerk = deriv of accel?
2017-10-18T04:20:53 < upgrdman> found rob235   https://i.imgur.com/t36Z5Bc.gifv
2017-10-18T04:20:53 < sync> yes
2017-10-18T04:20:55 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-18T04:21:22 < sync> interestingly mfgs would do it
2017-10-18T04:21:27 < sync> but then the robot would be slower
2017-10-18T04:21:30 < sync> so it would not sell
2017-10-18T04:21:32 < sync> :D
2017-10-18T04:21:34 < upgrdman> lol
2017-10-18T04:21:42 < sync> so they just do constant accel
2017-10-18T04:21:44 < sync> with infinite jerk
2017-10-18T04:23:59 < dongs> why does it move "carefully"? does it actually have sensors to check clearances or rat
2017-10-18T04:24:02 < dongs> er rat=wat
2017-10-18T04:24:22 < dongs> if not, why not just toss it in there fast
2017-10-18T04:25:19 < upgrdman> dongs, prolly because of the jerking like sync mentioned
2017-10-18T04:25:35 < upgrdman> e.g. if its a tight fit, you dont want it jiggling like oprah
2017-10-18T04:28:02 < sync> yeah dongs they are sensored
2017-10-18T04:29:59 < aandrew> jiggling like oprah
2017-10-18T04:32:03 < Ultrasauce> upgrdman gonna put custom electronics/software on em?
2017-10-18T04:32:38 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, im tempted to, but first i need to relearn how to fly
2017-10-18T04:33:02 < upgrdman> on the sim its just like a bike. i can fly pretty well. but in real life it's never that easy.
2017-10-18T04:33:38 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, i kinda want to build a 10dof + gps thinggy and stream it to my TelemetryViewer program live.
2017-10-18T04:35:26 < Ultrasauce> yeah that'd be a great start
2017-10-18T04:35:38 < Ultrasauce> just a telemetry payload
2017-10-18T04:37:23 < upgrdman> i kinda wonder if i could monetize that.
2017-10-18T04:37:54 < upgrdman> would be nice to actually make money off of my TelemetryViewer program (other than yt ad revenue) that i've poured way too much time into.
2017-10-18T04:47:32 < capacitor> i'll monetize you
2017-10-18T04:47:49 < capacitor> steve jobs: gnu? i wonder if i could monetize it
2017-10-18T04:48:24 < branjb> you got a yt link of it?
2017-10-18T04:48:47 < upgrdman> branjb, talking to me?
2017-10-18T04:48:53 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-18T04:49:30 < upgrdman> branjb, https://youtu.be/hooo9Ro06Bs?t=14
2017-10-18T04:50:34 < capacitor> ty
2017-10-18T04:50:43 < branjb> upgrdman i'm actually working on a self balancer right now
2017-10-18T04:50:44 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/kfGOp
2017-10-18T04:51:08 < upgrdman> cool
2017-10-18T04:51:25 < capacitor> butts
2017-10-18T04:52:09 < branjb> i'll give you $10 for a binary of your data logger
2017-10-18T04:52:14 < branjb> literally was going to do that next weekend
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2017-10-18T04:52:36 < upgrdman> branjb, its free, but if you want to donate that'd be awesome
2017-10-18T04:52:40 < branjb> link
2017-10-18T04:52:47 < upgrdman> http://www.farrellf.com/TelemetryViewer/
2017-10-18T04:53:54 < branjb> > .jar
2017-10-18T04:54:05 < upgrdman> thats a java "binary"
2017-10-18T04:54:11 < branjb> it's like you hate yourself
2017-10-18T04:54:16 < upgrdman> install java, then double-click the Jar
2017-10-18T04:54:36 < upgrdman> branjb, i just wanted it to be cross-platform, and java is an easy way to do that.
2017-10-18T04:54:40 < branjb> haha
2017-10-18T04:55:16 < branjb> till your version number mismatches
2017-10-18T04:55:23 < upgrdman> ?
2017-10-18T04:56:51 < branjb> java updates always break previous java software i have
2017-10-18T04:57:09 < upgrdman> i've never experience that.
2017-10-18T04:57:31 < branjb> it happened with multiwii
2017-10-18T04:59:14 < englishman> not another ##stm32 chatter making a flight controller
2017-10-18T05:00:39 < branjb> it's a race to the bottom
2017-10-18T05:10:47 < aandrew> hm I still can't find that azn BT3167 nor the M6008N. the latter's just an amp but I'm struggling to figure out wtf the BT3167 is
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2017-10-18T06:39:46 < Ultrasauce> upgrdman I perused your source a little and jesus christ that's tedious
2017-10-18T06:39:56 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, sorry
2017-10-18T06:40:05 < Ultrasauce> no i mean I don't envy you having had to write that
2017-10-18T06:40:35 < upgrdman> well it's also my first opengl program, so probably lots of poor choices spinked in that codebase
2017-10-18T06:40:51 < upgrdman> but ya, it was tedious as fuck
2017-10-18T06:42:46 < Ultrasauce> basic abstractions for things like axes and boundaries to get rid of duplication would be a good idea
2017-10-18T06:43:01 < Ultrasauce> but i guess the real solution would be to use a framework that provides all that shit and isn't obnoxiously slow
2017-10-18T06:44:11 < upgrdman> ya i was using a chart lib in version 0.1, and it didnt support gpu rendering
2017-10-18T06:44:27 < upgrdman> so even with i7-6700K, it couldnt do 60fps
2017-10-18T06:44:44 < Ultrasauce> if you have the stomach for c++ application dev check out qt
2017-10-18T06:44:51 < upgrdman> and im refactoring whenever things get annoying.
2017-10-18T06:45:00 < Ultrasauce> it has a pretty nice rendering api
2017-10-18T06:45:21 < upgrdman> im tempted to move to cpp. just not sure if i have the drive to.
2017-10-18T06:45:37 < Ultrasauce> yeah it's a lot of work to not suck at
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2017-10-18T07:06:04 < ColdKeyboard> I'm trying to run WS2812b with Tim1 PMW + DMA
2017-10-18T07:06:34 < ColdKeyboard> https://pastebin.com/2JHjnVMN
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2017-10-18T07:35:03 < dongs> i thought xilinx shit was bad with 10 cpeis of JVM
2017-10-18T07:35:11 < dongs> every fucking schneider app installs a local jvm copy
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2017-10-18T10:56:50 < ohsix> boop
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2017-10-18T11:02:56 < ohsix> fudge
2017-10-18T11:03:15 < ohsix> thought i'd have some time this week to fuck around but someone got me moar eagle stuff heheh
2017-10-18T11:03:22 < ohsix> networking is fun
2017-10-18T11:04:02 < ohsix> not making a lot of money but 'life overhead is low & get to spend lots of time with the people i've met this year
2017-10-18T11:07:37 < dongs> ColdKeyboard: 100 bytes?
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2017-10-18T12:20:14 < karlp> branjb: who the fuck's jar files have you been working with that break on java updates?
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2017-10-18T13:42:04  * karlp wonders who writes code like this, "int EE_ReadVariable(uint32_t *FillHerUpAddress);" and thinks they're being funny/helpful
2017-10-18T13:42:27 < zyp> wat
2017-10-18T13:42:45  * karlp shrugs
2017-10-18T13:42:46 < karlp> no idea
2017-10-18T13:43:07 < karlp> I think I'm going to be rewriting a bunch of this.
2017-10-18T13:43:31 < karlp> init function has doxygen for 4 parameters, only takes on.
2017-10-18T13:43:39 < karlp> someone's going to get a spanking.
2017-10-18T13:43:45 < PaulFertser> "git blame" stopped working?
2017-10-18T13:44:11 < karlp> no, I know _who_ I'm more intersted in the state of mind that created this
2017-10-18T13:44:43 < karlp> I hope it at least _works_ properly
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2017-10-18T13:47:00 < PaulFertser> There's a word in contemporary russian that translates as "sperm toxidrome", probably that person was affected by that.
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2017-10-18T13:48:17 < PaulFertser> What's even stranger is that among bikers there's a similar word "moto toxidrome" but it means that the person suffers from _lack_ of motorbike riding, not from the overdose of it.
2017-10-18T13:48:26 < PaulFertser> ain't russians stupid?
2017-10-18T13:50:52 < PaulFertser> Ah, and there's another strange word, they glue English "full" and russian "eh-kip" (which is short for "eh-kipearovkah", means "special gear/clothes" and use that as "full eh-kip".
2017-10-18T13:59:00 < zyp> don't all languages mix in english nowadays?
2017-10-18T14:00:50 < PaulFertser> Not sure, but this specific way is too absurd/ignorant for my liking.
2017-10-18T14:01:17 < karlp> джинсы was always my favourite russian word
2017-10-18T14:01:36 < karlp> straight up english word, just doens't look anything like it.
2017-10-18T14:01:44 < PaulFertser> There's also грипсы ("grips" for the handlebars)
2017-10-18T14:02:38 < zyp> karlp, same word is ジーンズ in japanese
2017-10-18T14:02:42 < zyp> japanese is full of those
2017-10-18T14:02:50 < PaulFertser> In fact, джинсы sound very much like jeans-ee , that's because ee at the end of a russian word means plural, so plural jeans had to have that ee added so it stayed plural in russian.
2017-10-18T14:03:31 < karlp> that'sa likea pretending toa talka like an italian
2017-10-18T14:03:39 < qyx> dzinsy
2017-10-18T14:03:52 < qyx> whats wrong with that code actually
2017-10-18T14:04:00 < qyx> the pointer as a parameter?
2017-10-18T14:04:44 < qyx> int/uint32_t inconsistency, or weird name
2017-10-18T14:04:51 < karlp> the worthless param name for self documenting
2017-10-18T14:05:01 < PaulFertser> qyx: that's still pretty similar to the way proper English "jeans" sound.
2017-10-18T14:05:58 < BrainDamage> we have a few loan words from english, the awful shit starts to happen when regular italian grammatics get applied to them, so eg people try to conjugate an english verb, the results are ... not pretty
2017-10-18T14:06:09 < qyx> heh
2017-10-18T14:06:49 < qyx> like here, "konfiguroval som networky" = I configured some networks
2017-10-18T14:07:24 < qyx> or "zabookoval som hotel"
2017-10-18T14:07:27 < zyp> konfigurerte noen nettverk
2017-10-18T14:48:35 < daey> japanese has a huge amount of dutch loanwords
2017-10-18T14:49:02 < daey> many of the english ones are likely taken from the dutchs :p
2017-10-18T14:53:14 < dfgg> PaulFertser: b-but eh-kip sound like "equip(ement)" which makes sense in some way...
2017-10-18T14:54:13 < PaulFertser> dfgg: yes, a bit :)
2017-10-18T14:58:59 < sync> better than svn
2017-10-18T14:59:13 < sync> or VSS
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2017-10-18T15:10:33 < BrainDamage> closing issues online doesn't sound like git's fault, rather than the issue tracker
2017-10-18T15:10:55 < Laurenceb> CubeMX isn't starting muh timers :-/
2017-10-18T15:11:40 < Laurenceb> is there some secret source to getting them running other than the autogenerated code?
2017-10-18T15:12:43 < Laurenceb> CNT register is reading 0
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2017-10-18T15:19:16 < Laurenceb> like wut does HAL_TIM_Base_MspInit do?
2017-10-18T15:19:36 < Laurenceb> seems to be necessary to configure the time but it isnt called by CubeMX code
2017-10-18T15:32:16 < englishman> that's for starting the timer as a timebase
2017-10-18T15:32:29 < englishman> oh if only there was a .chm file that detailed all this
2017-10-18T15:32:45 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-18T15:32:55 < Laurenceb> well something is failing
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2017-10-18T15:36:33 < Laurenceb> are you sure
2017-10-18T15:36:43 < Laurenceb> e.g. HAL_SPI_MspInit is called by the spi driver on init
2017-10-18T15:38:06 < englishman> not at all, in fact I stopped reading at _base
2017-10-18T15:41:29 < Laurenceb> all ur base
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2017-10-18T15:41:49 < Laurenceb> hmm looks to me like CubeMX timer support is more basic or something
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2017-10-18T16:29:51 < Thorn> so you have a 5V r-t-r output opamp (min Vcc = 4.5V) connected to an adc whose max input is 3.3V (3.6V absolute). how do you make sure the adc is not cooked
2017-10-18T16:30:39 < BrainDamage> resistor divider
2017-10-18T16:38:30 < Thorn> iirc the input impedance of a stm32 adc is like 50KΩ, so the divider should be about 5K?
2017-10-18T16:40:30 < BrainDamage> yeah that works
2017-10-18T16:42:27 < Thorn> ok thanks
2017-10-18T16:43:57 < Laurenceb> aha its kind of working
2017-10-18T16:44:06 < Laurenceb> needed to run start function
2017-10-18T16:44:18 < Laurenceb> lsm6dsl is indeed 6.67khz update
2017-10-18T16:44:20 < Laurenceb> niceee
2017-10-18T16:44:57 < Thorn> lcsc removed their 'please do not order' banner
2017-10-18T16:45:05 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/UUA77idF timestamp = 10µs increments
2017-10-18T16:45:20 < Thorn> hopefully they sorted out their logistics
2017-10-18T16:45:22 < Laurenceb> not very noisy either
2017-10-18T16:46:21 < daey> is the input resistance clearly defined? or does it fluctuate across multiple units?
2017-10-18T16:48:07 < Thorn> input resistance of the adc? iirc it varies a lot over supply voltage among other things
2017-10-18T16:48:39 < Thorn> I guess you should take the minimum for your situation
2017-10-18T17:04:58 < karlp> there's a table in the datasheet related to sampling time
2017-10-18T17:05:00 < karlp> 50kohm max
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2017-10-18T17:05:09 < stvn> hello
2017-10-18T17:05:21 < stvn> and welcome to the wonderful world of corsair ram
2017-10-18T17:07:37 < stvn> steffan are you there mate
2017-10-18T17:15:00 < Steffanx> No.
2017-10-18T17:15:06 < Steffanx> Steffanx is.
2017-10-18T17:15:19 < Steffanx> Why mr stvn ?
2017-10-18T17:16:00 < stvn> well hello sir
2017-10-18T17:16:05 < stvn> my corsair asploded
2017-10-18T17:16:33 < Steffanx> Psu?
2017-10-18T17:16:52 < stvn> no
2017-10-18T17:16:55 < stvn> wham
2017-10-18T17:17:04 < stvn> muh wham died
2017-10-18T17:17:06 < stvn> but
2017-10-18T17:17:14 < Steffanx> Wham...?
2017-10-18T17:17:17 < stvn> i had a corsair ssd too, it died 2 year ago
2017-10-18T17:17:19 < stvn> ram
2017-10-18T17:17:31 < stvn> my corsair experience
2017-10-18T17:17:33 < stvn> it dies
2017-10-18T17:17:48 < stvn> jewtel and nigabyte are good still
2017-10-18T17:18:06 < Steffanx> Too much pumping?
2017-10-18T17:18:14 < stvn> well
2017-10-18T17:18:22 < stvn> i had a pumping rig in that box
2017-10-18T17:18:28 < stvn> h100 ROFL
2017-10-18T17:18:42 < stvn> fucking hell!
2017-10-18T17:18:45 < stvn> thats corsair too
2017-10-18T17:19:10 < stvn> can't remember why i got rid of it, other than the fact
2017-10-18T17:34:27 < stvn> the bias
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2017-10-18T17:45:57 < englishman> stvn: https://m.banggood.com/200pcs-0_1-220uF-15-Value-Electrolytic-Capacitor-Assortment-Box-Kit-p-1032358.html
2017-10-18T17:47:29 < Laurenceb> englishman: have u used lis3mdl magno?
2017-10-18T17:47:42 < stvn> let me look
2017-10-18T17:47:46 < Laurenceb> I'm not sure if its doing weird shit or something else is weird
2017-10-18T17:47:57 < Laurenceb> I'm getting v erratic sample times from it
2017-10-18T17:48:07 < Laurenceb> like 250 to 750hz update rate
2017-10-18T17:48:15 < stvn> JAKEC - A GREAT CAPACITOR
2017-10-18T17:48:54 < englishman> Laurenceb: yea I have stock can sell you some for $18 each
2017-10-18T17:49:06 < stvn> englishman: great capacitors
2017-10-18T17:49:12 < englishman> and 20% off
2017-10-18T17:49:20 < stvn> perfectly suitable for your next stm32 innovation
2017-10-18T17:49:32 < englishman> I was going to shove them up my nose
2017-10-18T17:50:02 < stvn> yes
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2017-10-18T17:50:22 < stvn> tbh they'll work fine without heat surrounding them and ripple
2017-10-18T17:51:56 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMCMR3N6QyM
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2017-10-18T17:54:08 < Laurenceb> englishman: do you use high update rate?
2017-10-18T17:54:25 < englishman> never did software for it, sorey
2017-10-18T17:56:24 < stvn> https://youtu.be/8X-gwN1TGOU?t=48s
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2017-10-18T17:58:37 < aandrew> god dammit quit posting videos
2017-10-18T17:58:45 < aandrew> I keep clicking instaed of working
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2017-10-18T18:00:03 < stvn> hi aandrew
2017-10-18T18:00:49 < aandrew> hi
2017-10-18T18:01:11 < stvn> i miss stm32
2017-10-18T18:02:18 < englishman> why are you working when chats are occuring
2017-10-18T18:02:27 < Steffanx> Stvns Tranny mates (32)?
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2017-10-18T18:03:39 < Laurenceb> c-c-c-combo breaker
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2017-10-18T18:17:19 < englishman> anyone know some good pushbutton suppliers, specifically 16mm hole mount ones with RGB LED
2017-10-18T18:17:22 < englishman> very hard to find
2017-10-18T18:17:24 < englishman> ANY price
2017-10-18T18:17:41 < englishman> also must be common anode
2017-10-18T18:29:20 < Thorn> I've been thinking about using a separate switch and led and a custom keycap (probably 3d printed)
2017-10-18T18:30:01 < Thorn> there are cherry mx switches with leds but not rgb https://cdn.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Components/Switches/MX%20Series.pdf
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2017-10-18T18:37:57 < englishman> i got some from china but they "didnt feel right"
2017-10-18T18:38:00 < englishman> throw was too large
2017-10-18T18:38:16 < englishman> capacitive won't work for us
2017-10-18T18:38:34 < englishman> Eswitch has a perfect one but it's common cathode... sux
2017-10-18T18:51:27 < Thorn> first opamps had input offset voltage = 100mV
2017-10-18T18:55:58 < karlp> fracking pointers
2017-10-18T18:56:14 < karlp> trying to run some poitner shit on host as well as on target, and mungling up 64bit 32 bit conversions
2017-10-18T18:56:43 < karlp> englishman: what's teh problem with common cathode vs anode?
2017-10-18T18:56:52 < englishman> i didnt make the led driver
2017-10-18T18:56:53 < karlp> just means you drivers vs sinks or vice versa right?
2017-10-18T18:57:11 < englishman> and they jumped the gun so the spec is on me now
2017-10-18T18:57:27 < Thorn> add some pnps
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2017-10-18T19:02:10 < englishman> no can do, anyway its a constant current driver for led breathing
2017-10-18T19:08:49  * qyx unpacking seeed pcbs
2017-10-18T19:09:27 < Thorn> qyx: did they give you a tracking number
2017-10-18T19:09:33 < qyx> yes, always
2017-10-18T19:09:52 < Thorn> normal singapore or whatever post? not ems/dhl?
2017-10-18T19:09:59 < qyx> eu post
2017-10-18T19:10:02 < qyx> they call it eu post
2017-10-18T19:10:20 < qyx> but the packages are regularky lost the first 14 days
2017-10-18T19:10:29 < qyx> and then they are being shipped from austria usually
2017-10-18T19:10:33 < qyx> and come in 2 days
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2017-10-18T19:10:54 < qyx> the tracking number is from the AT too
2017-10-18T19:11:11 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/VyRgmcYR
2017-10-18T19:11:21 < qyx> probably they are shipping them to AT by other means and they use regular AT post to send them
2017-10-18T19:11:23 < Laurenceb> can anyone spot the race condition in my codez?
2017-10-18T19:11:39 < Thorn> okic. if I'm not mistaken they are now calling regular mail "registered post without tracking" which is a contradicion (registered = tracking)
2017-10-18T19:11:39 < Laurenceb> DRDY lines from two sensors go to IC1 and IC2
2017-10-18T19:12:01 < qyx> not enuf spaces
2017-10-18T19:12:54 < qyx> are you sure that you are not going to make a mistake in lines such
2017-10-18T19:12:56 < qyx> (htim&&htim->Channel == HAL_TIM_ACTIVE_CHANNEL_2)
2017-10-18T19:13:59 < qyx> Thorn: but I also ordered by DHL few days ago
2017-10-18T19:14:07 < qyx> I will report how fast it arrives
2017-10-18T19:17:38 < qyx> https://i.imgur.com/4dr0Bya.jpg
2017-10-18T19:19:55 < Thorn> does that SSOP near C17 have soldermask bridges pads?
2017-10-18T19:21:13 < karlp> what's the great bit 8 pin module thing?
2017-10-18T19:21:45 < qyx> efd16 transformer
2017-10-18T19:21:48 < Thorn> T1, transformer
2017-10-18T19:21:57 < qyx> thats a 60V Vin 10W psu
2017-10-18T19:23:22 < Thorn> looks like IC3 doesn't have soldermask between pads(?)
2017-10-18T19:24:02 < qyx> the isolator?
2017-10-18T19:24:06 < qyx> wait, unpacking it
2017-10-18T19:24:52 < qyx> ic3 doesn't, ic7 does
2017-10-18T19:25:17 < qyx> gerbers does have the soladermask even on the IC3
2017-10-18T19:26:12 < qyx> also the top silk is offset a bit
2017-10-18T19:28:15 < Thorn> iirc they always had silkscreen registration problems
2017-10-18T19:29:29 < qyx> it happened for me for the first time now
2017-10-18T19:29:40 < qyx> and thats about 15th design froms seeed
2017-10-18T19:30:21 < qyx> also they claim they are doing drc on all submitted designs
2017-10-18T19:30:34 < qyx> but they failed once, I made a mistake and forgot to rerun the drc
2017-10-18T19:30:45 < qyx> one via was offset and shorted the neghbouring trace
2017-10-18T19:31:01 < qyx> and they didn't catch it, so probably no drc at their side prior to manufacturing
2017-10-18T19:31:27 < qyx> but that was my fault primarily
2017-10-18T19:42:23 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/cn9t78YX
2017-10-18T19:42:27  * Laurenceb head assplode
2017-10-18T19:42:38 < Laurenceb> hopefully race condition free...
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2017-10-18T20:22:17 < Laurenceb> {{mag = {axes = {-3914, 3348, 5202}}, timestamp = 68216,
2017-10-18T20:22:17 < Laurenceb>     updateflag = 0 '\000'}, {mag = {axes = {-3926, 3310, 5148}},
2017-10-18T20:22:17 < Laurenceb>     timestamp = 68311, updateflag = 0 '\000'}, {mag = {axes = {-3890, 3342,
2017-10-18T20:22:17 < Laurenceb>         5121}}, timestamp = 68406, updateflag = 1 '\001'},
2017-10-18T20:22:24 < Laurenceb> nice, >1khz magno
2017-10-18T20:22:35 < Laurenceb> timestamp is 10µs units
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2017-10-18T20:27:01 < ds2> which mag does >1KHz?
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2017-10-18T20:28:42 < Laurenceb> lis3mdl
2017-10-18T20:29:17 < qyx> is it true 16bit data out?
2017-10-18T20:29:18 < Laurenceb> heh i fixed lis3, now lsm6 is broken
2017-10-18T20:29:20 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-18T20:29:38 < qyx> so sensitivity is +-4gauss/65536?
2017-10-18T20:29:58 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-18T20:30:05 < Laurenceb> about 15bits rms noise tho
2017-10-18T20:30:11 < Laurenceb> so only 14 enob or so
2017-10-18T20:30:27 < qyx> ah 6800 LSB/gauss
2017-10-18T20:31:05 < Laurenceb> about 10nT/sqrt(Hz)
2017-10-18T20:31:33 < qyx> not much usable for vlf lighning detection then
2017-10-18T20:31:55 < qyx> but I am not into math much
2017-10-18T20:32:04 < BrainDamage> you typically go electric field for VLF lighting detection
2017-10-18T20:32:15 < qyx> why
2017-10-18T20:32:19 < qyx> most of the detectors are magnetic loops
2017-10-18T20:32:44 < BrainDamage> because magnetic you'll get all the SMPS shit
2017-10-18T20:33:03 < BrainDamage> you'll still get with an e field detector, but much less so
2017-10-18T20:33:30 < BrainDamage> if you live in a rural area, magnetic is better, but in a polluted area like a city e is better
2017-10-18T20:33:58 < BrainDamage> with e field you're much less sensitive to both smps and lightning, while instead with magnetic you get both
2017-10-18T20:33:58 < qyx> in this case yes
2017-10-18T20:34:04 < qyx> of course it is hardly usable here in the flat
2017-10-18T20:34:11 < qyx> I can count stairs people go in the elevator
2017-10-18T20:34:20 < Laurenceb> http://www.mdpi.com/atmosphere/atmosphere-07-00116/article_deploy/html/images/atmosphere-07-00116-g007.png
2017-10-18T20:34:32 < qyx> by the VFD noise
2017-10-18T20:34:39 < Laurenceb> ^not detectable
2017-10-18T20:34:47 < Laurenceb> but not massively below the noise floor
2017-10-18T20:37:57 < Laurenceb> so much fail
2017-10-18T20:38:05 < Laurenceb> i canna make 2 sensors share the same spi bus
2017-10-18T20:38:16 < BrainDamage> my high school finale project was actually a LF radio intentionally tuned to a dead frequency with a AGC to a constant value and strength meter of the AGC feedback signal
2017-10-18T20:38:21 < BrainDamage> -e
2017-10-18T20:38:59 < BrainDamage> using a log bargraph driver for audio you'd get back a rough distance meter
2017-10-18T20:39:39 < qyx> BrainDamage: I have prepared a gps synchronized adc for triangulation, something similar as blitzortung does
2017-10-18T20:39:53 < qyx> and also a low noise preamp
2017-10-18T20:39:59 < qyx> both seem to work reasonably good
2017-10-18T20:40:27 < qyx> I am about to place it in a vineyard
2017-10-18T20:41:04 < qyx> and test it for a while.. then deploy more stations to actually compute something
2017-10-18T20:41:28 < upgrdman> in altidongs, how do i split an Internal Plane? just place lines?
2017-10-18T20:41:30 < BrainDamage> yeah having proper time of flight is the right way to do it
2017-10-18T20:41:55 < BrainDamage> you can even sort of do matched filtering
2017-10-18T20:45:26 < aandrew> modifying planes in altium sucks
2017-10-18T20:45:34 < aandrew> but yes, you can move lines, cut them, etc.
2017-10-18T20:46:11 < upgrdman> aandrew, how do i remove part of an internal plane? not just divide it, but like cut some out
2017-10-18T20:47:02 < ds2> so can you see the varying magnetic field from say a regular speaker?
2017-10-18T20:47:12 < upgrdman> superbia, us pros
2017-10-18T20:49:40 < aandrew> upgrdman: make a poly?
2017-10-18T20:52:23 < englishman> aandrew: what do you want to do
2017-10-18T20:52:24 < englishman> err
2017-10-18T20:52:26 < englishman> upgrdman:
2017-10-18T20:52:33 < englishman> you can just put a pour over a pour and set their priorities
2017-10-18T20:52:52 < upgrdman> englishman, poly did the trick
2017-10-18T20:52:57 < englishman> qyx: what's X4?
2017-10-18T20:53:19 < upgrdman> and to answer your q, im trying to pull back the vdd/gnd pours near an RJ45, since the phy tells me to
2017-10-18T20:54:01 < englishman> in that case you can place a pour keepout in the component footprint
2017-10-18T20:54:05 < englishman> since it is part of the footprint
2017-10-18T20:54:30 < qyx> englishman: cortex debug
2017-10-18T20:54:47 < englishman> mmm figured that, but then saw it was labelled X
2017-10-18T20:54:59 < qyx> I forgot to rename it
2017-10-18T20:55:12 < qyx> the mcu is there only for Vin and ground fault monitoring
2017-10-18T20:55:13 < upgrdman> englishman, thx
2017-10-18T20:55:51 < englishman> it will save time and prevent errors for futureupgrdman
2017-10-18T21:00:48 < Laurenceb> reeee
2017-10-18T21:00:56 < Laurenceb> race condition is there sometwhere in my code
2017-10-18T21:01:00 < upgrdman> how do i tell altium to not remove extra vias on a net
2017-10-18T21:01:07 < Laurenceb> it runs for 3 seconds...
2017-10-18T21:01:17 < upgrdman> e.g. if i have a gnd trace and it has one via, if i add another via, it removes the first via
2017-10-18T21:08:44 < englishman> automatically remove loops checkbox in routing settings
2017-10-18T21:09:12 < englishman> pt -> place trace -> press tab -> uncheck automatically remove loops
2017-10-18T21:09:20 < upgrdman> thx
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2017-10-18T21:26:12 < Laurenceb> lsm3dlm would be good for geosurveying
2017-10-18T21:26:18 < Laurenceb> if I could make it work...
2017-10-18T21:32:34 < Steffanx> better do a simulation in mathlab :P
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2017-10-18T22:05:12 < aandrew> I seem to remember using that chip somewhere
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2017-10-18T23:53:33 < Thorn> how do I go about designing a 15A 12->5V buck converter? would a ferrite ring instead of a chip inductor and an external mosfet be enough?
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2017-10-19T00:15:46 < Thorn> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tps53014.pdf
2017-10-19T00:16:58 < upgrdman> Thorn, "15A" "chip inductor" lolwut
2017-10-19T00:17:08 < qyx> what Ipk and inductance?
2017-10-19T00:17:52 < qyx> there are nice power smd inductors for this purpose
2017-10-19T00:18:28 < Thorn> >These devices have limited built-in ESD protection. The leads should be shorted together or the device placed in conductive foam
2017-10-19T00:18:28 < Thorn> during storage or handling to prevent electrostatic damage to the MOS gates.
2017-10-19T00:18:35 < Thorn> reassuring
2017-10-19T00:19:54 < englishman> the pitfalls of low capacitance gates
2017-10-19T00:20:13 < qyx> there is a chapter for component selection
2017-10-19T00:21:24 < qyx> 1.8uH/15A inductors are avaiolabnle quite easily
2017-10-19T00:22:15 < BrainDamage> i never cared for esd until i boght a bag of 2n7000 and discovered that depending on how many times i handled them they had different gain
2017-10-19T00:23:19 < Thorn> I once received 2n7000 in a standard zip lock baggie, 1/3 were permanently on
2017-10-19T00:25:41 < Thorn> I hope modern power mosfets are better than that
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2017-10-19T00:54:03 < englishman> hi curt
2017-10-19T00:54:11 < englishman> steffy is asleep
2017-10-19T00:55:10 < englishman> there is a grey kitty on me mow
2017-10-19T00:55:11 < englishman> now
2017-10-19T00:55:26 < englishman> he likes the smell of poutine
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2017-10-19T00:56:04 < metRo_> Hi
2017-10-19T00:56:19 < metRo_> I configured a interrupt on a gpio
2017-10-19T00:56:40 < branjb> got a call for a remote/work from home job
2017-10-19T00:57:11 < metRo_> now when I press the button the code call the irq handler and don't exit from the handler
2017-10-19T00:57:13 < branjb> you think i could take it and then pay habib 10% to do it all
2017-10-19T00:57:14 < metRo_> any idea why?
2017-10-19T00:57:43 < metRo_> branjb: what is habib?
2017-10-19T00:58:19 < branjb> my guy in india
2017-10-19T01:00:10 < englishman> metro do you clear the interrupt flag
2017-10-19T01:00:14 < Thorn> metRo_: are you clearing the interrupt bit in EXTI->PR?
2017-10-19T01:00:19 < englishman> if you don't the interrupt will fire immediately on return
2017-10-19T01:00:20 < Cracki> your guy in india will deliver 10% of the work
2017-10-19T01:00:26 < englishman> branj did you use your real name
2017-10-19T01:00:29 < Cracki> and you don't know which are the 10%
2017-10-19T01:00:30 < branjb> i'm ok with that
2017-10-19T01:00:37 < branjb> haha
2017-10-19T01:00:47 < branjb> i have no idea how they got my resume
2017-10-19T01:00:53 < Cracki> ah ic
2017-10-19T01:01:00 < branjb> probably whored all around recruiter land by now
2017-10-19T01:01:02 < Cracki> that kinda shop
2017-10-19T01:01:50 < branjb> lets see what glassdoor says it pays
2017-10-19T01:02:06 < englishman> branj
2017-10-19T01:02:17 < englishman> a guy came by the house last week asking to hunt geese on this land
2017-10-19T01:02:25 < englishman> we got to chatting and hes like holy shit we need u
2017-10-19T01:02:27 < metRo_> englishman Thorn from what I can see from stm32 HAL library yes: if(__HAL_GPIO_EXTI_GET_IT(GPIO_Pin) != RESET)    {      __HAL_GPIO_EXTI_CLEAR_IT(GPIO_Pin);     HAL_GPIO_EXTI_Callback(GPIO_Pin);   }
2017-10-19T01:02:37 < englishman> he works for a major co
2017-10-19T01:02:40 < metRo_> I implemented the HAL_GPIO_EXTI_Callback(GPIO_Pin);
2017-10-19T01:02:41 < branjb> hahaha
2017-10-19T01:02:44 < branjb> he offer you a job?>
2017-10-19T01:02:48 < englishman> stuff works like that sometimes
2017-10-19T01:02:53 < englishman> im meeting with him later yea
2017-10-19T01:02:57 < englishman> we'll see
2017-10-19T01:03:58 < branjb> not bad
2017-10-19T01:04:03 < branjb> $105k/yr to work from home
2017-10-19T01:04:29 < Thorn> LT has a shitload of them http://www.linear.com/parametric/External_Power_Switch_Buck_Controllers
2017-10-19T01:04:34 < branjb> job sounds boring though
2017-10-19T01:04:35 < englishman> do you have to sell cosmetic supplies to your friends
2017-10-19T01:04:35 < metRo_> I add a breakpoint on GDB to HAL_GPIO_EXTI_Callback and it never fire however when I stop the code and look where it is, it is at the callback
2017-10-19T01:04:36 < metRo_> :s
2017-10-19T01:04:59 < branjb> englishman i'd rather do the dildo version of mary kay
2017-10-19T01:05:02 < englishman> curt maybe you can help Thorn he is into buck supply design right now
2017-10-19T01:05:35 < englishman> ah yeah i can see that
2017-10-19T01:06:51 < branjb> wonder if i should call this dude back
2017-10-19T01:07:40 < branjb> it seems scammy
2017-10-19T01:07:53 < branjb> if i worked from home 50% of my workday would be fucking off
2017-10-19T01:08:22 < branjb> at least if i show up to a place to work it's only 25% of the day fucking off
2017-10-19T01:10:24 < branjb> my head has been pounding for the last week from wx change or pressure or some shit
2017-10-19T01:10:36 < upgrdman> any comp sci pros awake? you know how o-scopes with advanced math features will let you do shit like "LPF(a * b) / 10" ... like a complicated formula instad of just a binary operator. what's an efficient way to implement that? like it was just +/-/*/div then you could just make a matrix, but for other operators? :/
2017-10-19T01:12:12 < BrainDamage> i wrote one once using lambda calculus and currying
2017-10-19T01:12:16 < branjb> like infix to postfix?
2017-10-19T01:12:37 < BrainDamage> no, i think he means algebric expression parsing in general
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2017-10-19T01:12:48 < branjb> oh
2017-10-19T01:12:50 < upgrdman> yes. parsing AND evaluation
2017-10-19T01:13:01 < Thorn> recursive descent / shunting yard
2017-10-19T01:13:03 < branjb> .NET has some really good matlab like math libraries
2017-10-19T01:13:21 < Thorn> except scopes probably do it in fpgas/asics
2017-10-19T01:13:22 < upgrdman> for my telemetryviewer. i want to add math functions and not sure how lazy i want to be at it.
2017-10-19T01:13:25 < metRo_> solve this moving the callback after the main()... any idea why?
2017-10-19T01:15:45 < upgrdman> im actually more worried about the evaluation. parsing is one time, but evaluation may need to occurs at tens of hundreds of kHz
2017-10-19T01:16:02 < upgrdman> *tens or hundreds
2017-10-19T01:16:10 < Thorn> generate and interpret bytecode
2017-10-19T01:16:17 < upgrdman> lol
2017-10-19T01:16:20 < upgrdman> srsly?
2017-10-19T01:16:23 < Thorn> (next step: JIT compilation lol)
2017-10-19T01:16:35 < upgrdman> if only java had eval() ;)
2017-10-19T01:16:52 < Thorn> well if you don't then parsing won't be one time
2017-10-19T01:17:06 < BrainDamage> upgrdman: if the math is complex you pretty much need an algebra simplifier
2017-10-19T01:17:18 < BrainDamage> and then you run into experimental territory
2017-10-19T01:17:19 < Thorn> java has groovy and some javascript engine
2017-10-19T01:17:54 < upgrdman> ya this sounds outside of my comfort zone. maybe i'll just do a single binary operator.
2017-10-19T01:18:37 < Thorn> btw in java you can generate jvm bytecode, there are libraries for that
2017-10-19T01:19:19 < upgrdman> im really curious how actual oscopes do it.
2017-10-19T01:19:39 < BrainDamage> the very high end scopes run a normal desktop os
2017-10-19T01:19:40 < upgrdman> my riglol mso4000 can do non-trivial math. slowly, but still.
2017-10-19T01:19:52 < BrainDamage> so can just use all the libs
2017-10-19T01:20:05 < BrainDamage> riglols do shit in a dsp iirc
2017-10-19T01:21:20 < englishman> >tek
2017-10-19T01:21:22 < englishman> >high end
2017-10-19T01:21:23 < englishman> pick one
2017-10-19T01:21:30 < branjb> i think riglols are just a bunch of fpgas doing the dsp aren't they?
2017-10-19T01:21:54 < BrainDamage> my riglol uses a blackfin dsp
2017-10-19T01:21:59 < branjb> the fft on mine is not terrible for the price tag
2017-10-19T01:22:21 < upgrdman> i guess i could just try it the "dumb" way to see how hot my cpu gets. maybe go full retard and figure out compute shaders or opencl.
2017-10-19T01:22:41 < branjb> offload the math to AWS
2017-10-19T01:22:42 < upgrdman> break expression down into a bunch of binary operators, and recombine their outputs.
2017-10-19T01:24:10 < BrainDamage> you could write each bit of the result as a SAT expression :J
2017-10-19T01:24:23 < upgrdman> dafuq is dat
2017-10-19T01:25:19 < BrainDamage> if you can write your problem as a system of boolean expressions, there's automated solvers, they won't be fast tought
2017-10-19T01:25:30 < BrainDamage> but you can literally turn every problem into a SAT
2017-10-19T01:25:41 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_satisfiability_problem
2017-10-19T01:26:00 < BrainDamage> sorry, not every
2017-10-19T01:26:01 < BrainDamage> but most
2017-10-19T01:26:08 < upgrdman> ya i tihnk if i do this, i just do it the dumb way. "minimum system requirements: intel xeon phi + gtx1080ti" problem solved.
2017-10-19T01:26:13 < Thorn> P=NP?
2017-10-19T01:26:45 < BrainDamage> P=NP would mean that solving SAT would be as trivial as verifying it
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2017-10-19T01:27:54 < Cracki> not necessarily.
2017-10-19T01:28:03 < Cracki> but more or less yes :P
2017-10-19T01:29:21 < upgrdman> s/flapping/fapping
2017-10-19T01:31:46 < branjb> is autistic design a job title?
2017-10-19T01:31:49 < branjb> how do i get?
2017-10-19T01:32:15 < upgrdman> design a cortex a9 with just 74series logic
2017-10-19T01:32:22 < branjb> oh
2017-10-19T01:32:23 < upgrdman> and breadboard it
2017-10-19T01:32:34 < branjb> that sounds like a ~hackaday~ article
2017-10-19T01:32:45 < BrainDamage> nah
2017-10-19T01:32:49 < upgrdman> hackaday ~= autistic
2017-10-19T01:32:51 < BrainDamage> a led cube would outclass it
2017-10-19T01:33:02 < branjb> lol
2017-10-19T01:33:15 < BrainDamage> handwired bga to dip
2017-10-19T01:33:23 < branjb> actually saw something pretty interesting on hackaday recently
2017-10-19T01:33:23 < BrainDamage> iirc i saw one
2017-10-19T01:33:24 < branjb> https://hackaday.com/2017/10/11/homemade-6ghz-radar-v3/
2017-10-19T01:33:45 < BrainDamage> uhh, i am guilty of that
2017-10-19T01:33:56 < BrainDamage> but i didn't design a pcb for it
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2017-10-19T01:38:25 < BrainDamage> https://i.imgur.com/5DCk2TH.jpg
2017-10-19T01:38:43 < BrainDamage> one of my friends pretty much forced me to help to partecipate to a competition
2017-10-19T01:38:59 < BrainDamage> that's a 8 bit sar adc done with discrete logic
2017-10-19T01:39:14 < BrainDamage> even the dac is in discrete, using resistor ladders
2017-10-19T01:39:17 < upgrdman> i also make messes sometimes:  http://www.farrellf.com/temp/robot_pre_pcb.jpg
2017-10-19T01:39:24 < BrainDamage> and current stirrers
2017-10-19T01:39:33 < englishman> maybe you can sneak some discreet logic into your discrete logic
2017-10-19T01:40:04 < branjb> upgrdman what did you find out about weight distribution on self balancers?  everything i read said to put all the weight at top so the moment is up there, but i found it's more stable when weighted more at the bottom
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2017-10-19T01:40:28 < upgrdman> branjb, higher worked better for me
2017-10-19T01:40:33 < englishman> nice crt
2017-10-19T01:40:35 < branjb> hmm
2017-10-19T01:40:38 < englishman> whats a daughterboard
2017-10-19T01:40:43 < Rob235> howdy
2017-10-19T01:40:44 < upgrdman> imagine balancing a stick on your finger. longer sticks are easier to balance.
2017-10-19T01:40:45 < branjb> i need a better way to tune my pid constants
2017-10-19T01:40:51 < branjb> yeah i get the example
2017-10-19T01:40:56 < Rob235> connects to the motherboard
2017-10-19T01:41:08 < Rob235> and fucks the fatherboard
2017-10-19T01:41:17 < upgrdman> branjb, heh, i also made a yt video on how to half-ass tune my robots PID factors
2017-10-19T01:41:18 < branjb> i'm using steppers, so i control speed -> find desired tilt angle to achieve speed
2017-10-19T01:41:35 < branjb> so i prob screwed something up there
2017-10-19T01:41:42 < Rob235> what are you using steppers for? Im using them for the first time for my current project
2017-10-19T01:41:43 < upgrdman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bQdrvSLqpg
2017-10-19T01:41:45 < branjb> need to work on it more this weekend
2017-10-19T01:41:54 < branjb> Rob235 self balancing robot
2017-10-19T01:42:02 < Rob235> ahh nice, Ive been wanting to make one of those
2017-10-19T01:42:15 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/kfGOp
2017-10-19T01:42:17 < Rob235> have any pics of what you have so far? I like project logs
2017-10-19T01:42:35 < Rob235> nice
2017-10-19T01:42:36 < upgrdman> rob likes to watch
2017-10-19T01:42:41 < Rob235> ;)
2017-10-19T01:42:44 < Rob235> you know I do
2017-10-19T01:42:55 < Rob235> looks pretty big, how tall is it?
2017-10-19T01:43:20 < branjb> it's about 10 inches tall, and has a decent amount of weight to it.  which is prob contributing to making it difficult to stabalize
2017-10-19T01:43:56 < branjb> oh yeah, upgrdman, did you do anything to calibrate your imu, or did you just assume your axis were lined up perfect?
2017-10-19T01:44:36 < Rob235> what imu are you using
2017-10-19T01:44:43 < branjb> that stm one
2017-10-19T01:44:48 < branjb> ls9dsm1 or something
2017-10-19T01:44:57 < upgrdman> branjb, i dont think i bothered to calib anything
2017-10-19T01:45:00 < Rob235> hmm never used it
2017-10-19T01:45:35 < sync> my RLG balance bot worked fairly well for just gyro only
2017-10-19T01:46:03 < upgrdman> branjb, https://github.com/farrellf/Balancing_Robot_Firmware/blob/master/main.c?ts=4
2017-10-19T01:46:33 < upgrdman> and https://github.com/farrellf/Balancing_Robot_Firmware/blob/master/f0lib/f0lib_mpu6050_hmc5883l.c?ts=4
2017-10-19T01:46:59 < upgrdman> oh so ya i calc'd gyro offsets at power up, assuming robot was lying still.
2017-10-19T01:47:45 < sync> but then those are gyros you would not usually use in fapoff projects
2017-10-19T01:48:03 < branjb> did you do any filtering on it?  kalman or magick?
2017-10-19T01:48:29 < upgrdman> branjb, yes madgwick, in main.c
2017-10-19T01:48:53 < upgrdman> line 26
2017-10-19T01:50:12 < Rob235> are those black things wire covers? that loom shit? I bought some of this for my drawing robot but I dont think I like how it flexes: https://www.ebay.com/itm/PREMIUM-BRAIDED-EXPANDABLE-FLEX-SLEEVE-WIRING-HARNESS-LOOM-FLEXABLE-WIRE-/252912231618
2017-10-19T01:50:44 < branjb> yeah it's that techflex shit
2017-10-19T01:51:18 < Rob235> my color scheme is black and blue so I wanted blue loom. I'm fancy like that
2017-10-19T01:52:04 < Rob235> never make a web interface for a robot. it takes too much time
2017-10-19T01:56:11 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> Did I misunderstand something about ->     HAL_TIM_PWM_Start_DMA(&htim1, TIM_CHANNEL_1, (uint32_t*)LED_BYTE_Buffer, 100);
2017-10-19T01:56:19 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> I'm trying to run WS2812b with Tim1 PMW + DMA
2017-10-19T01:56:24 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> https://pastebin.com/2JHjnVMN
2017-10-19T01:57:08 < sync> Rob235: a friend of mine has done it
2017-10-19T01:57:19 < sync> but they are doing it as a commercial project
2017-10-19T01:57:19 < Rob235> its not that bad, I just cant stop adding shit to mine
2017-10-19T01:57:27 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/
2017-10-19T01:57:56 < Rob235> thats what I got so far, Im using chrome, I know there are some things not aligned or sized correctly on other browsers or resolutions
2017-10-19T01:58:56 < Thorn> ColdKeybo[a]rd: why 100 bytes
2017-10-19T01:59:19 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> Thorn: arbitrary at this moment. That will be number of LEDs * 3 bytes for me
2017-10-19T01:59:42 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> Am I missing something there? It keeps sending first byte over and over again, whatever it is
2017-10-19T02:00:19 < Rob235> I havent used cube before but do you have it set to increment the source memory location?
2017-10-19T02:00:35 < Thorn> maybe all your bytes are the same
2017-10-19T02:00:39 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> hdma_tim1_ch1.Init.MemInc = DMA_MINC_ENABLE;
2017-10-19T02:00:51 < Rob235> ok
2017-10-19T02:00:58 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> Thorn: They are not, I alternate them before starting DMA, just to make sure they are not the same
2017-10-19T02:02:25 < Rob235> why is your byte buffer 32bit?
2017-10-19T02:03:03 < Rob235> or why are you casting it to such
2017-10-19T02:03:37 < Rob235> is that what the dma command takes? do you have the word size set up correctly?
2017-10-19T02:03:37 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> That's what the function expects as a parameter
2017-10-19T02:04:08 < Rob235> I'm gonna stop trying to help, I'm just gonna waste your time without having used cube
2017-10-19T02:04:58 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> My word sizes are half-byte for both
2017-10-19T02:05:15 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> This is cubeMX "setting up the DMA and TIMER" __HAL_LINKDMA(tim_baseHandle,hdma[TIM_DMA_ID_CC1],hdma_tim1_ch1);
2017-10-19T02:05:34 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> I'm not sure how it actually tells the DMA to transfer data once period is complete?
2017-10-19T02:06:42 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> Like this TIM_DMA_ID_CC1 looks like once CC interrutp is triggered, transfer item and increase memmory pointer
2017-10-19T02:06:47 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> but not sure what am I missing here
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2017-10-19T02:24:28 < Thorn> Dave receives praise from a Keysight exec https://youtu.be/fpstmpm_rFM?t=17m55s
2017-10-19T02:24:41 < branjb> is dave a keysight shill?
2017-10-19T02:28:39 < branjb> my realtor is aussie
2017-10-19T02:28:43 < branjb> and he always says bobs your uncle
2017-10-19T02:28:51 < branjb> wtf
2017-10-19T02:29:12 < branjb> i do have an uncle bob
2017-10-19T02:29:19 < branjb> but how does he know, and what does he have to do with anything?
2017-10-19T02:37:27 < englishman> already buying a house 3 months outta school
2017-10-19T02:37:30 < englishman> dat america
2017-10-19T02:37:54 < branjb> living the dream
2017-10-19T02:38:00 < branjb> 2nd house actually
2017-10-19T02:38:06 < branjb> had one all throughout school too
2017-10-19T02:39:47 < branjb> are you allowed to own property in canada still?
2017-10-19T02:43:03 < englishman> only if you dont wear sunglasses
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2017-10-19T03:46:52 < dongs> didnt know eevfag was still around begging
2017-10-19T03:48:49 < kakimir> beggin?
2017-10-19T03:50:31 < branjb> why does he have so much hate other than the fact he used to work for altium?
2017-10-19T03:51:56 < BrainDamage> the few videos i saw from him are very low density in information
2017-10-19T03:52:13 < BrainDamage> 20-30 minutes to say something that could be said in 5
2017-10-19T03:53:07 < sync> yes
2017-10-19T03:53:22 < kakimir> it's impossible to watch them all
2017-10-19T03:53:52 < kakimir> nowdays there is new video once a week - mont
2017-10-19T03:53:57 < kakimir> month*
2017-10-19T03:54:11 < sync> he has some interesting stuff, but most of it is just such los density
2017-10-19T03:54:16 < sync> and I cannot stand him talk
2017-10-19T03:54:19 < dongs>  < BrainDamage> 20-30 minutes to say something that could be said in 5
2017-10-19T03:54:20 < dongs> this
2017-10-19T03:54:26 < dongs> but more like
2017-10-19T03:54:31 < dongs> 20-30 minutes to say something that could be said in 30 seconds
2017-10-19T03:54:40 < kakimir> but I think he has done all the interesting stuff already
2017-10-19T03:55:21 < kakimir> now it's going to direction "how to blink led with arduino"
2017-10-19T03:55:39 < kakimir> go where the money is
2017-10-19T03:55:42 < branjb> lol
2017-10-19T03:56:52 < branjb> once i watched a twitch streamer
2017-10-19T03:57:02 < branjb> and every 2-3 min he was getting a $5-20 donation
2017-10-19T03:57:08 < branjb> dude must have been making a few hundred an hour
2017-10-19T03:57:10 < kakimir> probs it was she
2017-10-19T03:57:40 < branjb> if i had tits i'd totally monotize them
2017-10-19T03:59:52 < kakimir> you need to monetize your dick
2017-10-19T03:59:59 < branjb> can't make money off that
2017-10-19T04:00:03 < branjb> saturated market
2017-10-19T04:00:11 < kakimir> true
2017-10-19T04:02:52 < englishman> if you watched them on 2x his voice would be pushed out of the audible human frequency range
2017-10-19T04:06:58 < branjb> lol
2017-10-19T04:08:06 < dongs> i thought it would be a website comparing /reviewing penis pumps
2017-10-19T04:08:20 < kakimir> and I'm being told I'm weird
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2017-10-19T04:14:00 < ohsix> is there anything other than the visual basic ultra librarian shit to convert bxl files
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2017-10-19T04:18:23 < ohsix> part of whatever license ultralibrarian gives to nxp must preclude them from just using it to convert all of the formats, and just provide the bxl
2017-10-19T04:18:53 < upgrdman> :) https://i.imgur.com/nvAfDsw.gifv
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2017-10-19T04:22:19 < branjb> what is a pussy snorkel
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2017-10-19T04:22:56 < dongs> sounds pumping related
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2017-10-19T04:23:42 < kakimir> installed some optical hoses today
2017-10-19T04:23:51 < kakimir> tommorow testing
2017-10-19T04:24:40 < kakimir> 50meter singlemode duplex with SC connectors
2017-10-19T04:28:32 < upgrdman> optical hoses huh
2017-10-19T04:29:27 < upgrdman> old but good:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
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2017-10-19T04:32:35 < aandrew> yeah I kinda went wtf with optical hoses too
2017-10-19T04:34:03 < aandrew> lol
2017-10-19T04:34:14 < aandrew> dude must be good at holding in laughter
2017-10-19T04:36:07 < ohsix> wtf
2017-10-19T04:36:13 < ohsix> visual basic and .net
2017-10-19T04:36:44 < ohsix> a thing to convert one 1kb xml thing into something useful ends up being like 4 gigs
2017-10-19T04:39:05 < dongs> the shit is optical hose
2017-10-19T04:39:15 < dongs> youve gradutaed from SMA connectors to that?
2017-10-19T04:41:38 < dongs> what teh fuck is she even saying
2017-10-19T04:48:24 < aandrew> you inarticulate fuck
2017-10-19T04:48:28 < aandrew> it's obvious to anyone without a brain
2017-10-19T04:59:56 < ColdKeybo[a]rd> This chick has been sniffing some good stuff or got brain damage from giving too much head
2017-10-19T05:08:07 < dongs> definitely
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2017-10-19T05:29:23 < Thorn> SJW alert https://www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/76zb1l/synthrotek_makes_rape_jokes_on_social_media/
2017-10-19T05:31:06 < englishman> don't get it
2017-10-19T05:32:55 < branjb> i thought ##stm32 loved SJWs
2017-10-19T05:35:16 < ColdKeyboard> What is wrong here -> https://pastebin.com/RAsGZdyn ?
2017-10-19T05:35:36 < ColdKeyboard> Why is it only sending first byte over DMA?
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2017-10-19T05:47:12 < ColdKeyboard> Noone?
2017-10-19T05:47:16 < ColdKeyboard> It's been bugging me for days
2017-10-19T05:47:40 < ColdKeyboard> Darn thing won't send anything other than first byte over and over again'
2017-10-19T05:48:03 < Thorn> time to stop using HAL
2017-10-19T05:51:17 < ColdKeyboard> Got it...     hdma_tim1_ch1.Init.Mode = DMA_CIRCULAR;
2017-10-19T05:51:20 < ColdKeyboard> Didn't catch that
2017-10-19T05:51:56 < ColdKeyboard> Now it's sending a lot of stuff. Just have to verify it's actually what I wan't it to send :)
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2017-10-19T06:05:08 < dongs> where the fuck am i gonna find a computer with a fucking DB9 serial port. god damn fucking APC retards
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2017-10-19T06:39:04 < dongs> fuck microsoft for making calc.exe a fucking bullshit .NET store faggot app
2017-10-19T06:39:11 < dongs> ran windows update, didn't reboot
2017-10-19T06:39:16 < dongs> none of 'store' apps start anymore until reboot
2017-10-19T06:39:19 < dongs> no more fucking calc.exe
2017-10-19T06:47:03 < branjb> dongs you can get a usb -> db9 adapter for like 10 cents
2017-10-19T07:00:56 < dongs> not in the next 5 minutes
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2017-10-19T10:20:41 < dongs> i had a old desktop with DB9 on it still
2017-10-19T10:20:50 < dongs> and some ancient copy of lunix with minicom
2017-10-19T10:21:09 < dongs> apc passowrd: successfully reset
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2017-10-19T11:37:13 < Steffanx> Lunix to the rescue
2017-10-19T11:43:21 < qyx> is it something like neet for speed?
2017-10-19T11:43:26 < qyx> *need
2017-10-19T11:55:49 < jadew> I don't understand why the art of electronics is so highly regarded
2017-10-19T11:56:03 < jadew> it doesn't get into details
2017-10-19T11:56:14 < zyp> probably because everybody knows it
2017-10-19T11:57:16 < zyp> e.g. it was the textbook for the electronics 101 course in my uni
2017-10-19T11:57:16 < jadew> if you want to really understand something, that's definitely not the book for it
2017-10-19T11:57:48 < jadew> yeah, I think it's being used in many universities
2017-10-19T11:58:02 < zyp> everybody doesn't need to really understand everything, it's useful as a general reference
2017-10-19T11:58:06 < jadew> but for example, for reactance it basically urges the reader to skip over the math
2017-10-19T11:58:16 < zyp> and then you can check specific sources if it falls short
2017-10-19T11:58:26 < jadew> and if you read the math, it just jumps between conclusions without showing you how it go to those conclusions
2017-10-19T11:58:27 < zyp> could be
2017-10-19T11:58:37 < zyp> I'm not actually too familiar with it, I haven't opened it much
2017-10-19T11:59:12 < emeryth> jadew: did you even read the introduction in the book?
2017-10-19T11:59:13 < jadew> yeah, I think it's useful as a general reference, but again, seems very superficial to me
2017-10-19T11:59:16 < zyp> electronics 101 was before I learned that you don't need to buy all the books on the booklist
2017-10-19T11:59:19 < jadew> emeryth, I did not
2017-10-19T11:59:25 < jadew> it's meant to be this way?
2017-10-19T11:59:26 < emeryth> well there's your problem
2017-10-19T11:59:30 < zyp> so I picked it up, but didn't end up opening it much
2017-10-19T11:59:43 < jadew> zyp, heh
2017-10-19T12:02:23 < jadew> emeryth, ok, I skimmed over it, but that still doesn't explain why you would go into the math of how something works but skip over how some terms got in there
2017-10-19T12:02:33 < jadew> the whole purpose of going into the math is to understand that
2017-10-19T12:05:56 < emeryth> the book is not meant to be a bible of electronics theory
2017-10-19T12:07:53 < jadew> the part that buggs me (could be my math): " For V(t) = V0 sin(wt) through a cap you have a current of I(t) = C(dV/dt)" and that looks ok (not many qustions in my mind) but then it continues " = C w V0 cos(wt)". dV/dt of V(t) is indeed V0 cos(wt) - but where the hell did the extra w came from?
2017-10-19T12:07:55 < zyp> got some new pcb with some hundred parts of it, something was shorting out one of the power rails
2017-10-19T12:08:25 < zyp> turns out that assembly house has flipped the orientation of this super tiny little thing, SOT-5X3 or something like that
2017-10-19T12:08:48 < jadew> how did you debug it?
2017-10-19T12:08:58 < jadew> amps + thermal camera?
2017-10-19T12:09:16 < BrainDamage> jadew: dsin(omegat)/dt = omega cos(omegat)
2017-10-19T12:09:33 < zyp> I didn't, other guy already found the problem last night, I arrived this morning
2017-10-19T12:09:44 < jadew> BrainDamage, ah ha! so it was my math, thanks
2017-10-19T12:10:04 < zyp> currently sitting in .dk at the subcontractor that does the hw design
2017-10-19T12:10:19 < zyp> so the guy responsible for that did the testing and debugging yesterday
2017-10-19T12:10:20 < jadew> then I take back what I said about the book :)
2017-10-19T12:11:35 < zyp> as far as he's told me, he pulled off the regs and some 0R gating the power to the major chips to isolate as much as possible
2017-10-19T12:11:37 < BrainDamage> i think it's popular also because it avoids the math as much as possible and people are scared away by large blocks of equations
2017-10-19T12:11:50 < zyp> and also measured on a bare pcb to make sure there were no short on the pcb itself
2017-10-19T12:12:07 < zyp> so I figure he just concluded that a part must have been mounted wrong and started inspecting them all
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2017-10-19T12:31:23 < karlp> heh, i2c uart. SC16IS752 things I didn't know I'd need. like ever...
2017-10-19T12:32:51 < zyp> two addr selects and two ports on each, so you could put 8 uarts on one bus
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2017-10-19T12:33:08 < zyp> not too bad if you for some reason need a ton of uarts
2017-10-19T12:35:48 < karlp> yeah, I mean, I can see what it's for, but not something I'd ever thought up
2017-10-19T12:35:54 < karlp> not with i2c at least.
2017-10-19T12:36:19 < qyx> it can be ok for some modular expansion shit
2017-10-19T12:36:28 < qyx> rs485/rs232 cards
2017-10-19T12:36:32 < qyx> over spi
2017-10-19T12:36:36 < qyx> nice ic
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2017-10-19T12:45:55 < karlp> ok, how about this one then? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aircon-watch-the-world-s-first-personal-a-c-watch#/
2017-10-19T12:46:34 < jadew> haha
2017-10-19T12:49:55 < jadew> brought to you by the air con artists
2017-10-19T12:51:34 < jadew> it was already successfuly funded on kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1391357603/the-world-first-personal-air-conditioning-watch
2017-10-19T12:52:21 < emeryth> wait what
2017-10-19T12:52:55 < qyx> uhm
2017-10-19T13:02:39 < jadew> something like that could work tho
2017-10-19T13:02:56 < jadew> but it would have to inject you with various drugs
2017-10-19T13:04:07 < jadew> then you'd end up with unregulated body temperature, but no discomfort
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2017-10-19T13:22:30 < dongs> < karlp> heh, i2c uart. SC16IS752 things I didn't know I'd need. like ever...
2017-10-19T13:22:34 < dongs> i think i actualyl bought that once
2017-10-19T13:22:38 < dongs> to try and use for something
2017-10-19T13:37:10 < dongs> http://intofpv.com/attachment.php?aid=1035 good solder, bro
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2017-10-19T13:46:58 < dongs> karlp: do i need 100R/whatever on RS485 for point to point link?
2017-10-19T13:47:36 < dongs> (termination)
2017-10-19T13:48:44 < qyx> yes, but fuckit
2017-10-19T13:48:56 < qyx> if it is just few meters and reasonably low baudrate
2017-10-19T13:49:03 < dongs> what if its like 50 meters
2017-10-19T13:49:09 < dongs> at 115k
2017-10-19T13:49:22 < qyx> dhould work
2017-10-19T13:49:34 < qyx> but yes, it requires termintion and pullup/pulldown on both ends
2017-10-19T13:49:47 < qyx> to define idle state
2017-10-19T13:49:58 < dongs> yoiu mean 1K pull up/down on A/B and 100R in teh middle to terminate?
2017-10-19T13:50:15 < qyx> yes, for example
2017-10-19T13:50:32 < qyx> but if it is single master and driven all the time, no pull required
2017-10-19T13:51:04 < dongs> ya single master cuz point to point
2017-10-19T13:51:18 < qyx> it still can be multimaster
2017-10-19T13:51:22 < qyx> eh
2017-10-19T13:51:25 < qyx> ok
2017-10-19T13:51:27 < qyx> whatever
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2017-10-19T13:58:32 < karlp> yeah, what he said,
2017-10-19T13:58:39 < karlp> almost always totally ok.
2017-10-19T13:59:06 < karlp> depending on how people do sumb shit with "ground" you may actually get better results _without_ termination than with it.
2017-10-19T13:59:26 < karlp> best results are pullup/down and termination on master end, "fukit" on the rest.
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2017-10-19T15:52:08 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-10-19T15:52:16 < Laurenceb> back to raging at fail code
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2017-10-19T16:05:42 < Laurenceb> oh wow
2017-10-19T16:05:44 < Laurenceb> Lock = HAL_UNLOCKED, State = HAL_SPI_STATE_BUSY_TX_RX
2017-10-19T16:05:49 < Laurenceb> literally ST HAL
2017-10-19T16:18:58 < aandrew> heh
2017-10-19T16:20:59 < Laurenceb> same error I had right at the start
2017-10-19T16:21:03 < Laurenceb> jammed HAL
2017-10-19T16:21:13 < Laurenceb> literally worse than I2C
2017-10-19T16:22:09 < Laurenceb> I'll probably have to write special ST HAL unjam code at this point
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2017-10-19T16:29:35 < srk> lol :)
2017-10-19T16:29:54 < srk> blocking i2c?
2017-10-19T16:31:14 < Laurenceb> stm i2c is notorious for locking up
2017-10-19T16:31:51 < srk> what's your application?
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2017-10-19T16:34:07 < zyp> I haven't really had problems with i2c looking up in my stuff, idk
2017-10-19T16:34:12 < zyp> locking up*
2017-10-19T16:34:40 < Laurenceb> srk: vibration monitor
2017-10-19T16:34:48 < Laurenceb> little usb device with spi accel on it
2017-10-19T16:34:54 < srk> mpu?
2017-10-19T16:35:00 < Laurenceb> lsm6dsl
2017-10-19T16:35:04 < srk> ah
2017-10-19T16:35:09 < srk> that's the on newer disco boards?
2017-10-19T16:35:39 < srk> nah LIS302DL or LIS3DSH ST MEMS 3-axis accelerometer
2017-10-19T16:36:16 < englishman> just like invensense, they are inventing over9000 models and stocking none of them
2017-10-19T16:36:30 < srk> lis3dsh is cool, up to 1.6khz
2017-10-19T16:36:47 < Steffanx> Just order a few milion englishman
2017-10-19T16:36:53 < englishman> pretty standard, no? bosch does the same
2017-10-19T16:37:16 < englishman> invensense is a bit slower but they are dead anyway
2017-10-19T16:37:23 < srk> look at some wlcsp arms, you need to order a batch of 5000 from most distributors :D
2017-10-19T16:37:33 < englishman> sure
2017-10-19T16:37:36 < englishman> wlscp tho
2017-10-19T16:38:14 < srk> we've considered that few days ago, prize is good but you probably need burried vias which makes it expensive again
2017-10-19T16:38:20 < srk> also hard to diy
2017-10-19T16:38:51 < englishman> hence the quantity
2017-10-19T16:38:59 < englishman> what are you making?
2017-10-19T16:39:04 < srk> but the prize tag is cool, like $6 for stm32f437
2017-10-19T16:39:19 < englishman> yeah those are super cheap to make, they skip the whole packaging process
2017-10-19T16:39:27 < srk> something similar to this http://embeddedprogrammer.blogspot.cz/2012/08/f4dev-open-source-development-board-for.html
2017-10-19T16:39:55 < srk> less sensors, LAN9252 for etherCAT on the back
2017-10-19T16:40:11 < srk> to be used as in modular motion control/robotics platform
2017-10-19T16:40:45 < srk> idea is that you plug this into a baseboard of some sort and use CAN/etherCAT as interconnect
2017-10-19T16:41:51 < englishman> what kind of quantity you looking at?
2017-10-19T16:41:59 < srk> I don't want to go full etherCAT as it would make it a bit more expensive for hobbyists so I would like to put LAN9252 on the back side and make it optional
2017-10-19T16:42:01 < englishman> don't think i'd be considering wlcsp for anything like that
2017-10-19T16:42:10 < srk> if I figure out FMC .. :D
2017-10-19T16:42:33 < srk> englishman: yeah, makes more sens to use TQFP or QFN I guess
2017-10-19T16:42:46 < englishman> you can always build it and cost/size down later
2017-10-19T16:43:17 < srk> something you can still solder by hand if you're hardcore enough
2017-10-19T16:43:32 < englishman> like even pebble/fitbit dont use wlcsp mcu
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2017-10-19T16:44:26 < englishman> the new fitbit uses some toshiba bga with onboard 2d graphics
2017-10-19T16:44:29 < srk> do you think it's a good idea to use pins to connect both boards?
2017-10-19T16:45:45 < englishman> depends
2017-10-19T16:46:03 < srk> let's say it's mounted on cnc mill.. :D
2017-10-19T16:47:16 < englishman> all that stuff is built to be as big, cheap and durable as possible, no?
2017-10-19T16:47:23 < srk> yep
2017-10-19T16:48:03 < englishman> so 0.1" headers seem appropriate, held together with standoffs
2017-10-19T16:48:22 < srk> good :)
2017-10-19T16:48:35 < srk> standoffs! good point
2017-10-19T16:48:54 < englishman> that's all smoothieboard + clones has, right
2017-10-19T16:49:10 < srk> would you be interested in such board? :D
2017-10-19T16:49:57 < srk> yep, I've build one diy smoothie and then bought two originals and one panucatt board
2017-10-19T16:50:00 < englishman> dono, i have a couple of motion controllers here in the office and one thing i never want to do is modify them, as they work and i require them to make money
2017-10-19T16:50:12 < srk> but the thing is nowhere near scalable
2017-10-19T16:51:38 < srk> my contraptions back then http://48.io/~rmarko/random/smoothie1.jpg http://48.io/~rmarko/random/smoothie2.jpg
2017-10-19T16:52:25 < srk> englishman: what machines you run?
2017-10-19T16:52:41 < englishman> mostly the picknplace
2017-10-19T16:52:46 < srk> cool
2017-10-19T16:53:21 < englishman> 3d printer has a atmel based board, cnc is using lunixcnc
2017-10-19T16:53:30 < englishman> but those are for fun
2017-10-19T16:53:38 < srk> yeah, we also have linuxcnc mill
2017-10-19T16:53:42 < srk> one smoothie based
2017-10-19T16:53:54 < srk> old prusa i2 still running on atmega..
2017-10-19T16:54:00 < srk> all sorts of beasts
2017-10-19T16:57:21 < srk> now building all of the control from scratch, here's some info https://wiki.distrap.org/Main_Page
2017-10-19T16:57:38 < srk> to have closed loop where possible
2017-10-19T17:01:01 < srk> updated blackmagic flashing section https://wiki.base48.cz/STM32#Black_Magic_probe
2017-10-19T17:03:58 < Laurenceb> so much reeee
2017-10-19T17:04:03 < Laurenceb> why cant ST HAL just work
2017-10-19T17:06:03 < karlp> detectred brexit
2017-10-19T17:07:35 < tomeaton17> I totally agree with why cant hal just work
2017-10-19T17:08:15 < srk> cause it sucks, as most halls do
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2017-10-19T17:10:12 < aandrew> man altium really pushes their PDN
2017-10-19T17:10:43 < englishman> well it seems really handy
2017-10-19T17:10:57 < englishman> and im pretty sure they paid a lot for it
2017-10-19T17:11:14 < karlp> PDN?
2017-10-19T17:11:16 < aandrew> I haven't touched it
2017-10-19T17:11:20 < englishman> http://www.altium.com/products/extensions/simulation/pdn-analyzer/overview
2017-10-19T17:15:23 < Laurenceb> Lock = HAL_UNLOCKED, State = HAL_SPI_STATE_BUSY_TX_RX, ErrorCode = 0
2017-10-19T17:15:28 < Laurenceb> shit just makes 0 sense
2017-10-19T17:15:40 < Laurenceb> maybe I should just overwrite State when it happens
2017-10-19T17:22:48 < Laurenceb> tiem to rage on ST forumz
2017-10-19T17:23:16 < Laurenceb> http://images.bbgsite.com/games/images/20081127/forumwarz/s_forumwarz_01.jpg
2017-10-19T17:23:20 < srk> svd doesn't contain pins?
2017-10-19T17:27:26 < srk> rage about svd as well
2017-10-19T17:30:02 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/message/172211-stm32f042-spi-dma-jammed
2017-10-19T17:30:57 < tpw_rules> send codes
2017-10-19T17:33:00 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/bBJer9H5
2017-10-19T17:33:33 < Laurenceb> according to gdb, Handle_LSM6DSL_Read is called for the last successful transaction
2017-10-19T17:34:02 < Laurenceb> but then the next LSM6DSL_Read call find the HAL code is jammed in busy state
2017-10-19T17:34:16 < Laurenceb> it doesnt seem to involve the LIS3 code at all
2017-10-19T17:34:28 < Laurenceb> so I end up at line 127
2017-10-19T17:38:43 < Thorn> https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/screwdriving-locating-and-exploiting-smart-adult-toys/
2017-10-19T17:39:03 < Laurenceb> old
2017-10-19T17:39:17 < Laurenceb> older than muh jammed spi
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2017-10-19T18:05:46 < Laurenceb> nope I canna see it
2017-10-19T18:05:57 < Laurenceb> just read through the HAL source, it doesnt make any sense
2017-10-19T18:06:04 < Laurenceb> can't see any way for HAL to jam
2017-10-19T18:06:14 < Laurenceb> unless there is a buffer overrun somewhere...
2017-10-19T18:10:04 < englishman> hmm vddcore is 0V on atsam3x
2017-10-19T18:10:28 < Laurenceb> moar broken than spi
2017-10-19T18:10:36 < englishman> even at VDDOUT pin
2017-10-19T18:13:06 < Steffanx> Lol at all the monologues
2017-10-19T18:19:33 < Thorn> >our name is short for Danish Oil and Natural Gas and originates back to 1972
2017-10-19T18:23:13 < Steffanx> Are you arduinoing englishman ?
2017-10-19T18:23:18 < englishman> yes
2017-10-19T18:23:46 < Steffanx> Still cant get used to "microchip" at*
2017-10-19T18:24:52 < Steffanx> Are you braindead yet?
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2017-10-19T18:26:56 < englishman> very
2017-10-19T18:29:04 < englishman> wtf
2017-10-19T18:32:36 < srk> hehe, someone already discovered cubemx database .. https://pastebin.com/85JCVk9K
2017-10-19T18:33:26 < Laurenceb> database of jammed spi
2017-10-19T18:34:06 < srk> oh that is so cool
2017-10-19T18:34:12 < srk> all the IPs and their registers
2017-10-19T18:37:04 < karlp> and they're hosting it on pastebin.
2017-10-19T18:37:05 < karlp> winning.
2017-10-19T18:37:55 < srk> https://github.com/cburlacu/cube2chibi
2017-10-19T18:38:00 < srk> similar
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2017-10-19T18:41:38 < Thorn> do seeed / allpcb / etc. accept two drill files (pth and npth)? there's nothing about it in their guideilnes iirc
2017-10-19T18:41:49 < englishman> allpcb might actually email you
2017-10-19T18:41:52 < englishman> but generally yea
2017-10-19T18:42:07 < englishman> same for plated slots file
2017-10-19T18:46:35 < Laurenceb> ah ok it is the LIS3
2017-10-19T18:46:40 < Laurenceb> I think...
2017-10-19T18:47:05 < Laurenceb> there is a if(HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive_DMA(&hspi1, LIS3MDL_Read_Bytes, rawbuff, LIS3MDL_Read_Transaction)) call inside the DMA callback
2017-10-19T18:47:16 < Laurenceb> that looks like the last thing that happens
2017-10-19T18:47:21 < Laurenceb> this calls for SWO
2017-10-19T18:48:27 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/NtfnUJzj
2017-10-19T18:48:39 < Laurenceb> bug is hiding in there somewhere... maybe
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2017-10-19T18:49:56 < karlp> lurn 2 ARRAY_LEN(x) silly boi
2017-10-19T18:49:58 < Laurenceb> my idea was to have lis3 reads follow lsm6 reads, as lis3 is much slower
2017-10-19T18:50:13 < karlp> even fucking sizeof() would work for your static arrays
2017-10-19T18:50:29 < karlp> nice consistent naming too.
2017-10-19T18:50:34 < karlp> for some of them _Bytes == size,
2017-10-19T18:50:44 < karlp> for others _Bytes = data and the other one is the size
2017-10-19T18:50:54 < Laurenceb> yeah ill fix that
2017-10-19T18:50:57 < karlp> no you won't
2017-10-19T18:50:57 < Laurenceb> :P
2017-10-19T18:51:12 < karlp> lurn to take care in the first place
2017-10-19T18:51:23 < karlp> you havign a hard time debugging? write code that's easier to debug
2017-10-19T18:52:26 < karlp> uses HAL, still tries to use #defined "functions" like "LSM6_CS_LOW;"
2017-10-19T18:52:52 < karlp> tries to use DMA, still writes blocking code anyway
2017-10-19T18:53:06 < Laurenceb> blocking code is just for config
2017-10-19T18:53:23 < karlp> shit doesn't wokr? sprinkle asm statements over it. should help, just like adding salt
2017-10-19T18:55:00 < englishman> why the shit is internal regulator off
2017-10-19T18:55:28 < karlp> it's "saving power" for you
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2017-10-19T19:00:19 < Laurenceb> ok wtf
2017-10-19T19:00:24 < Laurenceb> this isnt even consistent
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2017-10-19T19:00:52 < Laurenceb> basically HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive_DMA jams up sometimes
2017-10-19T19:01:00 < Laurenceb> maybe the DMA config is wrong
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2017-10-19T19:07:12 < englishman> indeed the "shdn" pin indicates the chip is in backup mode
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2017-10-19T19:07:54 < englishman> there is a "force wakeup" pin but it is disabled by default and must be enabled by jtag
2017-10-19T19:08:31 < englishman> and i dono why it would be in backup mode, it says the only way to enter is WFE
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2017-10-19T19:31:31 < Laurenceb> hmm ok
2017-10-19T19:31:40 < Laurenceb> I was getting confused by breakpoints
2017-10-19T19:31:48 < Laurenceb> so the lockup happens like this
2017-10-19T19:33:08 < Laurenceb> 1) LSM6 is being read 2) LIS3 data is ready (not sure it has to happen here to lock up) 3) LSM6 callback function sets new DMA transaction to read LIS3 4) the LIS3 callback never happens are SPI peripheral stays in busy state forever
2017-10-19T19:51:10 < aandrew> can you read without the callback nonsense?
2017-10-19T19:52:04 < aandrew> almost looks like you're tryign to re-enter the read.
2017-10-19T19:54:30 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-19T19:54:34 < Laurenceb> it needs to be fast
2017-10-19T19:55:07 < Laurenceb> I suspect I'm calling the DMA read function from the wrong place
2017-10-19T19:55:48 < Laurenceb> but   HAL_SPI_TxRxCpltCallback(hspi); is right at the end of SPI_DMATransmitReceiveCplt, after everything is wrapped up
2017-10-19T19:55:56 < Laurenceb> so that hypothesis doesnt make any sense
2017-10-19T19:57:00 < aandrew> sure
2017-10-19T19:57:12 < aandrew> but make sure you lock out the Data Ready interrupt while an existing transfer is occuring
2017-10-19T19:57:26 < aandrew> i.e. in your ISR, disable the vector, set up the DMA transfer and start it
2017-10-19T19:58:03 < aandrew> when you get the DMA complete interrupt reset the subsystem for the next read. Poll DR within the DMA complete and re-trigger a transfer right away if data is ready. If data is not ready, just exit and the interrupt will fire when data's ready again
2017-10-19T19:58:30 < aandrew> to test the theoyr, use a pair of GPIOs
2017-10-19T19:59:33 < aandrew> use one to toggle whenever the data ready ISR fires. use the other so it's high when DMA is set up and clear when DMA completes.
2017-10-19T19:59:47 < aandrew> the former should never move while the other is high or you're trying to re-enter
2017-10-19T20:00:41 < Thorn> https://imgur.com/gallery/1yJ7cQM
2017-10-19T20:00:49 < Laurenceb> hmm ok
2017-10-19T20:01:26 < aandrew> why I suspect re-entrancy is by the way you described it
2017-10-19T20:01:32 < Laurenceb> but I avoided that case rather crudely using a comparison of ICP values inside the ICP ISR
2017-10-19T20:01:47 < Laurenceb> and that doesnt seem to be the issue
2017-10-19T20:01:49 < aandrew> ICP?
2017-10-19T20:01:54 < Laurenceb> input capture
2017-10-19T20:01:56 < aandrew> ah
2017-10-19T20:02:25 < aandrew> are you timestamping the IMU data?
2017-10-19T20:02:39 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-19T20:02:42 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/vkensNrn
2017-10-19T20:02:52 < aandrew> can you chain the DMA start to the ICP? that way it's all in background
2017-10-19T20:03:08 < Laurenceb> hmm nice plan
2017-10-19T20:03:25 < Laurenceb> not sure if dma can do that
2017-10-19T20:03:34 < aandrew> then all you're doing is flagging userspace and setting DMA to the other buffer in your ping-pong buffer in the DMA complete interrupt
2017-10-19T20:06:33 < Laurenceb> hmm I can't see how that would be possible tbh
2017-10-19T20:07:00 < Laurenceb> would need to use ICP to start a preconfigured transaction
2017-10-19T20:07:13 < Laurenceb> STM32 DMA isnt that sophisticated?
2017-10-19T20:08:03 < Laurenceb> anyway, ^ pastebin
2017-10-19T20:08:27 < aandrew> right, so preconfigure the DMA transfer after you initialize the LSM6 but before you enable ICP. DMA complete interrupt just signals userspace and moves the DMA destination to the other buffer
2017-10-19T20:09:35 < Laurenceb> line79, that sample never arrived
2017-10-19T20:11:11 < aandrew> which STM32 is this
2017-10-19T20:12:17 < upgrdman> "ERROR : More than 500 violations detected, DRC was stopped"     i done good.
2017-10-19T20:15:14 < Laurenceb> aandrew: f042
2017-10-19T20:17:08 < Laurenceb> hmm I guess I could brute force it
2017-10-19T20:17:09 < englishman> jesus wtf is with this sam3x
2017-10-19T20:18:03 < Laurenceb> just overwrite the locked state
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2017-10-19T20:25:09 < Laurenceb> >google for my problem > get my st forum post
2017-10-19T20:25:11 < Laurenceb> reeeee
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2017-10-19T20:27:27 < englishman> what the shit
2017-10-19T20:27:35 < englishman> i supply external 1.8V on vddcore and it fucking works gr8
2017-10-19T20:28:08 < sync> rip on die ldo
2017-10-19T20:28:15  * Steffanx watches at clock..
2017-10-19T20:28:24 < Steffanx> Ah, it's really rage o'clock.
2017-10-19T20:28:29 < Laurenceb> yes
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2017-10-19T20:29:41 < englishman> hmm no it doesnt work
2017-10-19T20:30:20 < englishman> and it stops trying to enumerate
2017-10-19T20:30:21 < englishman> rekt
2017-10-19T20:31:29 < englishman> no
2017-10-19T20:31:30 < englishman> fuck
2017-10-19T20:31:31 < englishman> no idea
2017-10-19T20:33:08 < sync> pop in another chip?
2017-10-19T20:33:29 < englishman> wouldnt happen til monday
2017-10-19T20:33:33 < englishman> and it happens on more than 1 board
2017-10-19T20:33:52 < Laurenceb> aha found the error
2017-10-19T20:33:59 < Laurenceb> DMA HAL has its own lock
2017-10-19T20:34:21 < Laurenceb> stupid misleading error codes
2017-10-19T20:34:34 < Laurenceb> its nothing to do with the spi itself
2017-10-19T20:34:55 < aandrew> #stm32 rage hour
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2017-10-19T20:35:54 < Laurenceb> callback function spaghetti
2017-10-19T20:36:16 < Laurenceb> i think user callbacks get called whilst DMA is still locked
2017-10-19T20:36:18 < Laurenceb> epin fail
2017-10-19T20:36:55 < Laurenceb> now I can ether rewrite HAL or stick something in main loop to fire off the LIS3 read
2017-10-19T20:41:37 < aandrew> ... why an't you use ICP to trigger SPI DMA?
2017-10-19T20:43:53 < Laurenceb> because it might be busy already
2017-10-19T20:44:15 < Laurenceb> so the plan was to wait until next lsm6 read had finished
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2017-10-19T20:44:36 < aandrew> Laurenceb: then back to what I originally suggested
2017-10-19T20:44:38 < Laurenceb> hmm actually this doesnt make sense
2017-10-19T20:44:45 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-19T20:45:00 < aandrew> ICP interrupt disables itself and triggers SPI DMA. DMA complete resets your SPI subsystem and enables ICP
2017-10-19T20:45:02 < Laurenceb> no I'm not sure I can explain the lockup any more
2017-10-19T20:45:14 < Laurenceb> all of this is no help if HAL locks up
2017-10-19T20:46:06 < Laurenceb> aandrew: thats pretty much how I'm doing it atm
2017-10-19T20:46:55 < aandrew> it's the "pretty much" which might be getting you in trouble
2017-10-19T20:47:15 < aandrew> that's why I was suggesting some GPIO debugging to see what the system was actually doing
2017-10-19T20:52:56 < fenugrec> ^
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2017-10-19T20:55:19 < Laurenceb> yeah I should have made a debug version of the board
2017-10-19T20:55:23 < Laurenceb> with test pads
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2017-10-19T21:29:12 < upgrdman> GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. i haven't even gone into production yet and one of my BoM items is Discontinued at Digi-Key already
2017-10-19T21:29:22 < sync> nice
2017-10-19T21:29:39 < sync> seems to be a good day for pro irc EEing
2017-10-19T21:31:05 < Steffanx> better discontinue project.
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2017-10-19T21:39:31 < englishman> lol
2017-10-19T21:39:35 < englishman> what is it upgrdman
2017-10-19T21:39:40 < englishman> il find it for you at a high markup
2017-10-19T21:41:16 < upgrdman> its a common part, just a 50MHz jiggilator
2017-10-19T21:41:32 < upgrdman> im just kinda pissed that it went from >1k in stock, to disco, in the last couple weeks
2017-10-19T21:50:15 < Steffanx> I bet Ranewen did it.
2017-10-19T21:50:19 < fenugrec> it must have been marked EOL by the mfg months ago, not sure if DK provides that info though
2017-10-19T21:50:23 < Steffanx> but we'll never know
2017-10-19T21:50:46 < Steffanx> they sometimes do.
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2017-10-19T22:11:51 < Laurenceb> hmf
2017-10-19T22:11:58 < Laurenceb> no closer to debugging muh spi
2017-10-19T22:12:24 < Laurenceb> spi breaks if LIS3 DRDY is between 25 and 35µs after LSM6 DRDY
2017-10-19T22:12:38 < Laurenceb> dunno what that means
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2017-10-19T22:49:58 < zyp> upgrdman, so if it's a common part, just grab a compatible replacement
2017-10-19T22:50:12 < upgrdman> zyp, yes, i will, but still annoying
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2017-10-19T22:50:12 < zyp> oscillators should be common enough that there are standard footprints, right?
2017-10-19T22:50:18 < upgrdman> yes
2017-10-19T22:50:25 < upgrdman> but now i need to update the bom
2017-10-19T22:50:48 < upgrdman> at least this isnt in production yet, or i'd have to doing a whole fucking ECN
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2017-10-19T23:12:38 < Laurenceb> reeee
2017-10-19T23:12:44  * Laurenceb hates HAL
2017-10-19T23:12:52 < Laurenceb> 0 insight into wtf is wrong
2017-10-19T23:15:35 < englishman> fucking ups
2017-10-19T23:15:46 < englishman> "batteries contained in shipment"
2017-10-19T23:15:48 < englishman> ups picks it up
2017-10-19T23:15:51 < englishman> 4 days later no movement
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2017-10-19T23:16:18 < englishman> "oh its dangerous goods now, we can't even bring it back to you, you have to come pick it up, also we're 30 minutes away and only open 4h a day"
2017-10-19T23:16:31 < englishman> currently asking if they can fedex it
2017-10-19T23:17:10 < Steffanx> ups asks to fedex it?!
2017-10-19T23:17:19 < zyp> hahaha
2017-10-19T23:17:30 < zyp> fantastic
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2017-10-19T23:24:12 < englishman> ups does not ship fedex
2017-10-19T23:25:03 < zyp> so, what batteries are we talking about?
2017-10-19T23:25:28 < zyp> isn't there small lipos in pretty much everything nowadays?
2017-10-19T23:25:46 < englishman> dozen 18650s
2017-10-19T23:25:48 < englishman> and yes
2017-10-19T23:25:59 < englishman> this is like the one time i used ups
2017-10-19T23:26:04 < englishman> because it was the client's account
2017-10-19T23:26:08 < zyp> okay, dozen 18650 packs some power
2017-10-19T23:26:39 < englishman> which is why checked the lil box that says "contains lithium iron batteries"
2017-10-19T23:26:42 < englishman> er
2017-10-19T23:26:43 < englishman> ion
2017-10-19T23:26:50 < englishman> yet they still came and picked it up
2017-10-19T23:27:31 < englishman> now i get to rage about this for a while before returning to ATSAM3X rage
2017-10-19T23:33:35 < Laurenceb> sigh
2017-10-19T23:33:39 < Laurenceb> I'm out of ideas
2017-10-19T23:33:50 < Laurenceb> maybe I should just write my own spi/dma codez
2017-10-19T23:33:59 < Laurenceb> or steal libopencm3
2017-10-19T23:35:05 < Laurenceb> HAL busy forever
2017-10-19T23:36:00 < Laurenceb> maybe its EMI
2017-10-19T23:36:19 < Laurenceb> magno puts out pulses that screw with sram
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2017-10-20T00:05:22 < fenugrec> skip HAL
2017-10-20T00:05:54 < fenugrec> you'll have to read another refman and change code anyway if you ever change target
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2017-10-20T00:45:24 < kikes> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKOXNzbDRYSm5MTlk/view?usp=sharing fiber didn't fail. chinese mediaconverters, chinese cheapest ever singlemode duplex really not that good finish, another converter is powered directly fron router and everything works :/
2017-10-20T00:47:06 < kikes> at one point fibers leave reinforced cable and are connected inside nothing but a heatshring and it bends from there like 90degrees if not careful
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2017-10-20T01:14:18 < dongs> wat
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2017-10-20T01:17:12 < kikes> pigtail part is connected to steel strenghten rugged line with just a thin heatshirk
2017-10-20T01:17:30 < kikes> and probs has bare fibers inside it
2017-10-20T01:19:47 < kikes> next step is to buy some ubiquiti powerbeams
2017-10-20T01:23:51 < dongs> this must be kikemir?
2017-10-20T01:24:59 < kikes> my new nick
2017-10-20T01:29:21 < kikes> you like?
2017-10-20T01:33:09 < dongs> no
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2017-10-20T02:10:20 < kaks> is there any problem connecting passive poe device to active poe port or another way around? other than device won't go online?
2017-10-20T02:10:26 < kaks> short circuit etc.
2017-10-20T02:11:46 < kaks> and is there any protection in passive poe against wrong voltage?
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2017-10-20T02:34:52 < Laurenceb_> sup trolls
2017-10-20T02:35:27 < Laurenceb_> back to raging at ST HAL
2017-10-20T02:35:53 < Laurenceb_> maybe its a hardware issue
2017-10-20T02:36:31 < dongs> no its indentation issue
2017-10-20T02:37:04 < Laurenceb_> well older ST magnos chucked out nasty inductive pulses
2017-10-20T02:38:25 < Laurenceb_> enough to screw nearby sensors
2017-10-20T02:45:13 < Laurenceb_> and the F042 is directly the other side of the magno with 0.6mm FR4 inbetween
2017-10-20T02:48:45 < Thorn> TIL dicktrace can actually import gerbers
2017-10-20T03:05:59 < kaks> unloaded
2017-10-20T03:09:18 < englishman> dongs
2017-10-20T03:09:22 < englishman> atsam3x
2017-10-20T03:09:24 < englishman> ever used it?
2017-10-20T03:09:36 < englishman> internal regulator isnt turning on
2017-10-20T03:09:57 < englishman> when i give VDDCORE external 1.8v something happens but im not certain what
2017-10-20T03:10:00 < Laurenceb_> abort ST HAL
2017-10-20T03:10:39 < dongs> englishman:used
2017-10-20T03:10:43 < dongs> the tarduino due thing?
2017-10-20T03:11:04 < englishman> yes
2017-10-20T03:11:16 < dongs> lemme dig out workign sch
2017-10-20T03:11:27 < englishman> sure
2017-10-20T03:11:31 < englishman> ive been over this 500 times already
2017-10-20T03:11:34 < englishman> it just doesnt make sense
2017-10-20T03:11:43 < englishman> chips are from chinagal
2017-10-20T03:11:47 < ColdKeyboard> After calling 	HAL_TIM_PWM_Start_DMA(&htim3, TIM_CHANNEL_1, (uint32_t*)LED_BYTE_Buffer, buffersize); the DMA transfers data once, but after if I call that function again, it doesn' start DMA. DMA is in normal mode
2017-10-20T03:12:22 < ColdKeyboard> Is there a separate function to re-trigger the DMA or do I have to do some intermidiate step between setting up DMA and just saying "repeat" ?
2017-10-20T03:12:44 < kaks> crt, is it summer yet in my fav island continent country?
2017-10-20T03:13:11 < dongs> englishman: did you properly do PC0
2017-10-20T03:13:14 < dongs> that fucking ERASE ON BOOT thing
2017-10-20T03:14:25 < dongs> table 6-1 in dataSHIT
2017-10-20T03:14:25 < englishman> its not just on boot right? its 24/7
2017-10-20T03:14:33 < dongs> it must be low level at startup
2017-10-20T03:14:37 < dongs> after that you ca reassign it as gpio
2017-10-20T03:14:49 < englishman> i have 10k pulldown and 0.1u yea
2017-10-20T03:15:43 < englishman> why would that keep regulator from turning on tho
2017-10-20T03:15:45 < dongs> howa bout nrst and rstb
2017-10-20T03:15:52 < englishman> in fact doesnt VDDCORE have to be present to have powered flash
2017-10-20T03:15:53 < dongs> not sure im still cleaning shit for a screenshot
2017-10-20T03:16:30 < englishman> nrst is floating, nrstb is 10k pullup and 0.1u to gnd
2017-10-20T03:16:39 < englishman> and, when i press reset button, i can see current drop on the power supply
2017-10-20T03:16:42 < englishman> so i know thats doing something
2017-10-20T03:16:47 < Thorn> ColdKeyboard: you need to clear dma flags or it won't restart. also you should clear DMA requests from the timer by disabling and reenabling them
2017-10-20T03:17:04 < Thorn> no idea how it's done in HAHAHAL
2017-10-20T03:17:36 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/clAPbeU.png i didnt draw this obviously
2017-10-20T03:17:38 < ColdKeyboard> Thorn: Thanks. Any idea what flags should I be looking for?
2017-10-20T03:17:39 < englishman> nrst has 100k internal pullup (and its floating on tarduino)
2017-10-20T03:17:53 < Thorn> I just clear all of them
2017-10-20T03:17:54 < dongs> but its known working setup (minus rtc, they fucked something with battery connection
2017-10-20T03:18:32 < dongs> VBG?
2017-10-20T03:18:39 < englishman> bias for usb phy
2017-10-20T03:18:54 < dongs> TST pulled down?
2017-10-20T03:19:00 < englishman> yeah
2017-10-20T03:19:17 < Thorn> something like DMA2->LIFCR = (0x7d << DMA_LIFCR_CFEIF2_Pos); for channel 2
2017-10-20T03:19:18 < dongs> vddpll through fb to VDDOUT?
2017-10-20T03:19:25 < englishman> yours looks copypasted from arduino
2017-10-20T03:19:28 < dongs> yeah
2017-10-20T03:19:29 < englishman> yes thru inductor
2017-10-20T03:19:43 < englishman> when i inject 1.8V into VDDOUT, voltage comes up on all rails with ~1mA draw
2017-10-20T03:20:06 < englishman> and usb no longer complains of bad device descriptor
2017-10-20T03:20:26 < dongs> mhm
2017-10-20T03:20:33 < dongs> so vddout is failing?
2017-10-20T03:20:39 < dongs> do you have a 10uF cap on it?
2017-10-20T03:20:42 < englishman> yeah its like internal reg is shut off
2017-10-20T03:20:46 < englishman> SHDN also indicates its off
2017-10-20T03:20:48 < englishman> which is weird
2017-10-20T03:20:56 < englishman> 4.7u but yea
2017-10-20T03:21:00 < englishman> in and out
2017-10-20T03:21:01 < dongs> usually internal reg needs a cap to make it work etc.
2017-10-20T03:21:02 < dongs> mm
2017-10-20T03:21:03 < englishman> notably, tarduino does not
2017-10-20T03:21:13 < dongs> Lols
2017-10-20T03:21:18 < englishman> the weird part is SHDN is low
2017-10-20T03:21:23 < Laurenceb_> <englishman> it just doesnt make sense
2017-10-20T03:21:27 < Laurenceb_> liek ST HAL
2017-10-20T03:21:45 < dongs> anything else could be missing? like check all pins and shit
2017-10-20T03:21:48 < dongs> screenshot your crap and /notice it
2017-10-20T03:21:52 < englishman> checked voltage on each one
2017-10-20T03:21:55 < dongs> maybe you just need another set of eyes to look at it
2017-10-20T03:22:12 < englishman> i can just send the .schdoc
2017-10-20T03:22:19 < dongs> that works too but then you'd have to email it
2017-10-20T03:22:26 < dongs> make it quick im out in 8 minutes
2017-10-20T03:22:53 < englishman> sent
2017-10-20T03:23:00 < dongs> fopr fucks sake fucking cockbox/irccloud
2017-10-20T03:23:12 < englishman> mirccloud
2017-10-20T03:24:10 < Laurenceb_> mirc, irc for airstrikes
2017-10-20T03:25:27 < Laurenceb_> call in an airstrike on ST HAL developers
2017-10-20T03:26:17 < dongs> dumb question but are your polarized tant caps assembled right polatity
2017-10-20T03:26:43 < fenugrec> I've never seen a tant *not* explode when reversed, heh
2017-10-20T03:26:56 < dongs> they won't at 1.8V
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2017-10-20T03:27:26 < englishman> yeah
2017-10-20T03:27:29 < englishman> stripe is +
2017-10-20T03:28:19 < englishman> nice, jams on him too
2017-10-20T03:28:54 < ColdKeyboard> Thorn: Not sure if it's the right way of doing it but "HAL_DMA_IRQHandler(&hdma_tim3_ch1);" seems to be doing the trick
2017-10-20T03:29:04 < dongs> why i have 8 GND pins and you have 9
2017-10-20T03:29:14 < englishman> JTAGSEL?
2017-10-20T03:29:15 < dongs> oh nvm jewtagsel goes to gnd
2017-10-20T03:29:16 < dongs> yea
2017-10-20T03:30:02 < dongs> it shouls fucking work i donno man
2017-10-20T03:30:06 < englishman> yeah man
2017-10-20T03:30:13 < englishman> pulling hair out of my bald shiny head
2017-10-20T03:30:19 < englishman> got the boards back at 9am
2017-10-20T03:30:42 < englishman> new chips from digikey will be here monday
2017-10-20T03:30:43 < fenugrec> pinout is good ? no flipped footprint etc
2017-10-20T03:30:48 < englishman> you get yours from chinagal?
2017-10-20T03:30:57 < dongs> yeah i bought like 1k from her
2017-10-20T03:30:57 < englishman> yeah verified against high quality tarduino pictures
2017-10-20T03:31:01 < dongs> cuz leadtime from avnet was like 5 months
2017-10-20T03:31:11 < englishman> yeah i dono
2017-10-20T03:31:29 < englishman> did you program via usb
2017-10-20T03:31:31 < englishman> or jtag-ice
2017-10-20T03:31:36 < fenugrec> firmware isn't putting it back into sleep / low power for some reason ?
2017-10-20T03:31:36 < dongs> no, i have serial trash
2017-10-20T03:31:38 < dongs> see taht screenshot
2017-10-20T03:31:44 < dongs> erase pin + wahtever faggot shit
2017-10-20T03:31:47 < dongs> sam-ba
2017-10-20T03:31:49 < dongs> gross as FUCK
2017-10-20T03:31:49 < englishman> yeah
2017-10-20T03:31:51 < englishman> after ease
2017-10-20T03:31:52 < englishman> erase
2017-10-20T03:31:55 < englishman> it goes into buttloader
2017-10-20T03:31:59 < englishman> uart or usb
2017-10-20T03:32:00 < englishman> but
2017-10-20T03:32:05 < englishman> that implied VDDCORE is 1.8v
2017-10-20T03:32:09 < englishman> so wtf
2017-10-20T03:32:51 < dongs> fawkin weird i dont see anything wrong really
2017-10-20T03:33:01 < dongs> at lkeast not in power/reset stuff
2017-10-20T03:33:21 < dongs> does vbus need any caps on it?
2017-10-20T03:33:24 < dongs> i dont use that shit at all
2017-10-20T03:33:32 < dongs> when you plug in vbus, is that hoe whole thing is powered?
2017-10-20T03:33:37 < englishman> its just a detect line? should not affect 1.8v
2017-10-20T03:33:49 < dongs> i'm curious how it deals wiht 5V there
2017-10-20T03:33:56 < dongs> do you not need a voltage divider to make it 3.3v or such?
2017-10-20T03:33:57 < englishman> its 5v tolerant
2017-10-20T03:33:59 < dongs> okay.
2017-10-20T03:34:01 < englishman> guessing goes right to a gate
2017-10-20T03:34:08 < englishman> 5v from ground, too, not from vdd
2017-10-20T03:34:29 < englishman> its the only 5v tolerant pin on the chip lol
2017-10-20T03:34:30 < dongs> is it selfpowered or bus powered?
2017-10-20T03:34:35 < englishman> self
2017-10-20T03:34:42 < englishman> vbus is just for detect
2017-10-20T03:34:47 < dongs> yeah i see taht in datasheet
2017-10-20T03:35:04 < dongs> youre not doing otg or other weird shit right
2017-10-20T03:35:09 < englishman> nope
2017-10-20T03:35:17 < englishman> 1.8v doesnt come up even with usb disconnected
2017-10-20T03:35:38 < Laurenceb_> uhoh
2017-10-20T03:35:39 < Laurenceb_> https://community.st.com/thread/26273
2017-10-20T03:37:23 < dongs> sorry i donno then. have to eject bbl
2017-10-20T03:37:41 < englishman> later, thx
2017-10-20T03:38:52 < Laurenceb_> time for zzz
2017-10-20T03:38:59 < Laurenceb_> moar HAL fun 2morrow
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2017-10-20T03:46:53 < kaks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPlOM5MTSM china has archived to make a ball point pen
2017-10-20T03:48:00 < kaks> yes
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2017-10-20T03:48:28 < theMagnumOrange> what is the best board if I want to do ARM programming but I want to be able to follow arduino project guides? Only difference would be I would program the ARM firmware directly in C.
2017-10-20T03:48:53 < kaks> yes NXP
2017-10-20T04:10:38 < englishman> what's an arduino project guide?
2017-10-20T04:11:04 < englishman> the hardware portion?
2017-10-20T04:11:21 < englishman> i don't think they will help you much, hardware and software are pretty connected in embedded dev
2017-10-20T04:13:17 < englishman> really just get a stm32 discovery board and use any of the numerous examples
2017-10-20T04:13:24 < englishman> get led blinking, then go from there
2017-10-20T04:14:27 < Thorn> to HAL
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2017-10-20T05:13:13 < upgrdman> https://www.reddit.com/r/CrappyDesign/comments/77ev9e/didnt_anyone_think_about_this_when_they_were/
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2017-10-20T06:11:16 < englishman> hmm still looking for pro pushbutton suppliers
2017-10-20T06:15:05 < upgrdman> pro as in a cheap china source or what
2017-10-20T06:15:37 < englishman> any price any where
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2017-10-20T06:15:46 < englishman> china has so far failed in quality
2017-10-20T06:15:46 < upgrdman> digikey and mouser?
2017-10-20T06:15:58 < englishman> eswitch has something suitable but its common cathode :(
2017-10-20T06:16:12 < englishman> 16mm panel mount, RGB LED common anode
2017-10-20T06:16:15 < tpw_rules> how is a pushbutton common cathode
2017-10-20T06:16:17 < englishman> off-mom
2017-10-20T06:16:21 < upgrdman> oh, rgb
2017-10-20T06:16:25 < englishman> yeah
2017-10-20T06:16:30 < englishman> that has really been a pain to find
2017-10-20T06:16:51 < upgrdman> a customer's circuit?
2017-10-20T06:16:56 < englishman> there was one in china, but client rejected it because button throw was too much
2017-10-20T06:16:57 < englishman> yes
2017-10-20T06:17:02 < englishman> unfortunately
2017-10-20T06:17:20 < tpw_rules> what kind of button
2017-10-20T06:17:27 < tpw_rules> could you just choose a tiny button and then put an led next to it
2017-10-20T06:17:34 < tpw_rules> 16mm is pretty big
2017-10-20T06:17:37 < upgrdman> tpw_rules, not his circuit
2017-10-20T06:18:00 < tpw_rules> i mean it's the same function
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2017-10-20T06:18:09 < tpw_rules> you wouldn't have to change the circuit either
2017-10-20T06:18:28 < upgrdman> footprint == circuit
2017-10-20T06:18:42 < machinehum> ^
2017-10-20T06:18:46 < tpw_rules> what? maybe i'm misunderstanding his job
2017-10-20T06:18:57 < upgrdman> his job is to get his customer what they asked for
2017-10-20T06:19:09 < machinehum> If you change a part ... you change the board
2017-10-20T06:19:14 < upgrdman> he didnt design the pcb, he doesnt get ot change it on a whim
2017-10-20T06:19:25 < tpw_rules> how did they design the pcb without having a part
2017-10-20T06:19:49 < tpw_rules> just make up a footprint and hope one fits?
2017-10-20T06:20:03 < machinehum> Yeah...
2017-10-20T06:20:10 < machinehum> How do you make boards?
2017-10-20T06:20:14 < upgrdman> tpw_rules, pro ee's know the answer :) you design something and later find out the parts supply is shit
2017-10-20T06:20:22 < tpw_rules> oh i've been there
2017-10-20T06:20:26 < tpw_rules> but i at least had a part
2017-10-20T06:20:35 < upgrdman> sure
2017-10-20T06:20:44 < upgrdman> and when you go into production, your ass starts to bleed
2017-10-20T06:20:49 < machinehum> I heard maxim makes really good parts that are easy to get
2017-10-20T06:20:56 < upgrdman> because of all the stress from trying to source parts
2017-10-20T06:20:56 < tpw_rules> lol
2017-10-20T06:21:18 < englishman> "not my job" is the answer to most of those questions
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2017-10-20T06:21:29 < englishman> button is attached by a cable
2017-10-20T06:21:42 < englishman> lol machinehum
2017-10-20T06:22:34 < machinehum> englishman: Button w/ LED? RGB or just one colour?
2017-10-20T06:22:47 < englishman> yes, rgb
2017-10-20T06:22:59 < machinehum> :/
2017-10-20T06:23:00 < englishman> momentary button
2017-10-20T06:23:32 < machinehum> I know I good g one...
2017-10-20T06:23:37 < machinehum> Not RGB
2017-10-20T06:24:05 < englishman> EG5368-ND
2017-10-20T06:24:08 < englishman> would have been perfect
2017-10-20T06:24:12 < englishman> but its common cathode
2017-10-20T06:24:31 < upgrdman> this conversation feels like conversations i end up in when asking programming questions. everyone proposing solutions that dont fit the requirements, lol.
2017-10-20T06:25:12 < englishman> yeah well
2017-10-20T06:25:17 < englishman> when the requirements are dumb and arbitrary
2017-10-20T06:25:20 < tpw_rules> oh one of those things
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2017-10-20T06:25:31 < tpw_rules> i thought you meant like the 4 pin smt things
2017-10-20T06:25:41 < englishman> yeah no, 16mm panel mount
2017-10-20T06:25:58 < machinehum> buncha balls
2017-10-20T06:25:59 < englishman> also 20mm max depth
2017-10-20T06:26:33 < machinehum> Hmm... You could probably get away with a toggle switch?
2017-10-20T06:26:45 < machinehum> no?
2017-10-20T06:26:52 < englishman> i doubt it would fit the aesthetic
2017-10-20T06:26:59 < englishman> or drop tests
2017-10-20T06:27:13 < tpw_rules> hire someone to open them and switch around the commonality
2017-10-20T06:27:17 < englishman> not bad idea tho
2017-10-20T06:27:28 < englishman> i actually called eswitch about that
2017-10-20T06:27:32 < machinehum> tpw_rules: that's it
2017-10-20T06:27:35 < englishman> they can do it with moq
2017-10-20T06:27:43 < tpw_rules> of
2017-10-20T06:27:44 < englishman> but leadtime is also an issue
2017-10-20T06:27:49 < machinehum> ugh
2017-10-20T06:27:53 < machinehum> Lead time
2017-10-20T06:28:08 < machinehum> "20 weeks" Like fucker I might not be alive in 20 weeks
2017-10-20T06:28:16 < tpw_rules> ^
2017-10-20T06:28:22 < Thorn> is it some kind of music controller
2017-10-20T06:28:25 < englishman> no
2017-10-20T06:28:41 < tpw_rules> wank-ass elevator
2017-10-20T06:28:43 < tpw_rules> ?
2017-10-20T06:28:56 < englishman> no but it'll definitely get you high
2017-10-20T06:29:03 < englishman> like an elevator
2017-10-20T06:29:06 < tpw_rules> oh no
2017-10-20T06:29:43 < machinehum> It's a vape.
2017-10-20T06:29:48 < machinehum> Calling it.
2017-10-20T06:30:01 < tpw_rules> oh i assumed that since it was like an elevator, it was an escalator or upscale chair lift or something
2017-10-20T06:30:05 < tpw_rules> or maybe that was reading too much into it
2017-10-20T06:30:19 < tpw_rules> that's a decently big button for a vape
2017-10-20T06:30:25 < machinehum> PID contolled coils
2017-10-20T06:30:39 < machinehum> Required 18 D cell battaries
2017-10-20T06:30:44 < tpw_rules> you mean: running 100 amps through that button, welding it shut, and catching the user on fire
2017-10-20T06:30:45 < englishman> it will require a stoner license
2017-10-20T06:30:49 < machinehum> Fit into a backpack
2017-10-20T06:30:59 < tpw_rules> D for weeD
2017-10-20T06:31:33 < machinehum> ^
2017-10-20T06:48:13 < branjb> is there any money in PID controlled dildos
2017-10-20T06:50:22 < machinehum> Yeah lots
2017-10-20T06:50:35 < machinehum> Everyone wants one, no one is making them
2017-10-20T06:50:40 < machinehum> Smells like a kickstarter to me
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2017-10-20T06:52:21 < englishman> mine doesnt smell like that at all
2017-10-20T06:52:51 < machinehum> nice
2017-10-20T06:53:31 < branjb> there's another kickstarter idea
2017-10-20T06:53:35 < branjb> penis scented dildos
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2017-10-20T09:02:08 < Steffanx> Not really.
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2017-10-20T09:13:58 < dongs> well, i switched to LL and my M0 project became like 3x less in size
2017-10-20T09:14:00 < dongs> !!!
2017-10-20T09:16:39 < dongs> yeah
2017-10-20T09:16:58 < dongs> ST
2017-10-20T09:27:25 < emeb_mac> played around with LL a few weeks ago. seemed ok
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2017-10-20T09:48:39 < ohsix> https://twitter.com/fpga_nugga/status/909937636495814657
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2017-10-20T09:53:47 < ohsix> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiGmiKgVIAAdEXE.jpg:large
2017-10-20T09:56:46 < PaulFertser> ohsix: dickbutt spotted. Are you a dongs fan in disguise?
2017-10-20T09:59:06 < ohsix> https://www.microsemi.com/document-portal/doc_view/129892-ac190-ceramic-column-grid-array-application-note
2017-10-20T09:59:21 < ohsix> putting dickbutt on things is my jam
2017-10-20T10:00:01 < ohsix> i met another one of the engineers at microsemi, someone that operates ion implanters and does wafer debugging junk
2017-10-20T10:00:24 < ohsix> she was overly familiar
2017-10-20T10:01:48 < dongs> PaulFertser: no, dongs isnt ignored by half the channel
2017-10-20T10:02:00 < ohsix> if she wasn't 50 and had a lot of kids i'd have thought she was trying to pick me up
2017-10-20T10:02:36 < PaulFertser> ohsix: can you ask microsemi why they violate GPL and do not publish OpenOCD sources that they patch?
2017-10-20T10:03:53 < ohsix> where are they distributing it? i probably could
2017-10-20T10:04:56 < PaulFertser> ohsix: from their website, they distribute openocd binaries with custom microsemi flashing driver and such. And do not distribute the source for that. They also seem to be using proprietary library for flashing, which is prohibited by GPL of course.
2017-10-20T10:05:18 < ohsix> url
2017-10-20T10:05:29 < PaulFertser> ohsix: if you go download their debugging tools for microsemi cortex-m controllers you'll see. Ok, looking for the url, hold on.
2017-10-20T10:05:45 < ohsix> they don't use swd?
2017-10-20T10:05:52 < ohsix> or do you mean the flashing stub
2017-10-20T10:07:02 < PaulFertser> ohsix: they use swd, but they use proprietary flashing something, and they do not distribute sources along with the binaries.
2017-10-20T10:07:15 < dongs> i mean , i'm sure all 3 people using theier parts do not care
2017-10-20T10:07:19 < dongs> amp!six would care even less
2017-10-20T10:08:15 < ohsix> the stub doesn't necessarily have to be anything linked to openocd to do
2017-10-20T10:08:59 < PaulFertser> ohsix: I'll write you later today, I've checked it and I'm sure they're violating GPL. I'll provide more details later when I get back home where I have all the important files ready.
2017-10-20T10:09:21 < PaulFertser> ohsix: it's not only the stub, it's really some code linked to the openocd binary.
2017-10-20T10:10:00 < ohsix> k
2017-10-20T10:10:08 < ohsix> may have to check it out tomorrow, but will
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2017-10-20T10:13:52 < ohsix> best case scenario is that someone just didn't know or overlooked it, and that's not likely huhu
2017-10-20T10:15:55 < ohsix> https://www.microsemi.com/document-portal/doc_view/135569-softconsole-v4-0-release-notes docs for a package that includes openocd, has a page with all the open source licenses and stuff
2017-10-20T10:17:35 < ohsix> hm they do say '0.8.0 with microsemi enhancements'
2017-10-20T10:18:42 < zyp> if they distribute binaries, isn't it enough if they provide source upon request?
2017-10-20T10:20:51 < PaulFertser> zyp: the problem is, they do not provide the source at all, even upon request.
2017-10-20T10:21:10 < PaulFertser> ohsix: yeah, that one!
2017-10-20T10:21:20 < PaulFertser> ohsix: has licenses, but no sources
2017-10-20T10:22:20 < ohsix> has someone that has received the flashpro version asked for the source?
2017-10-20T10:23:10 < PaulFertser> ohsix: https://sourceforge.net/p/openocd/mailman/openocd-devel/thread/A8518CE889EF4844A09A9C038E9CA6BF5FA513EA%40mos-sr-exch2.bpa.local/
2017-10-20T10:23:34 < ohsix> https://sourceforge.net/p/openocd/mailman/message/35707447/
2017-10-20T10:23:58 < ohsix> 'for the soft console' seems to imply a lot was excerpted
2017-10-20T10:24:21 < PaulFertser> ohsix: so do you imply microsemi is not wrongdoing?
2017-10-20T10:24:42 < ohsix> how could i
2017-10-20T10:25:33 < ohsix> when you're assuming they're intransigent tho, the lowest standard of whatever is hewing to the gpl they're violating, and that relationship is around how they distribute it and to whom
2017-10-20T10:26:57 < ohsix> https://www.google.com/search?num=50&q=microsemi_flashpro.c+microsemi_flashpro_initialize
2017-10-20T10:38:51 < PaulFertser> ohsix: I was able to freely download that softconsole binary from their website, and it didn't come with the sources, and I confirmed openocd binaries are linked against some external libraries. Looks like enough of an evidence to me, but I might be missing something. Can you please clarify your point?
2017-10-20T10:49:08 < ohsix> they had me log in when i tried to download the lunix version
2017-10-20T10:52:12 < ohsix> making money but get this annoying shit
2017-10-20T10:52:35 < ohsix> overbearing dude that can manage drawing a schematic (sort of) but doesn't know how to do schematic capture or lay out a pcb
2017-10-20T10:53:22 < ohsix> he's still up at 4 in the morning in new york just being confused as i actually fix what he's talking about, and is obviously not awake enough to review the changes
2017-10-20T10:54:51 < ohsix> he's like 'I NEED TO GET THIS DONE IN 24 HOURS', hyperbolic shit, and actually wasting a bunch of billable time on nonsense
2017-10-20T10:55:04 < ohsix> i can't just let the clock run :<
2017-10-20T10:55:09 < ohsix> seems wrong
2017-10-20T10:56:36 < ohsix> the schematic looks like shit, and i laid out the board too, when i thought it really was a 24hr deadline
2017-10-20T10:57:37 < ohsix> not easy to review a schematic when you don't even know what a net is and keep saying 'c2 needs to be close to u2', when it was in the pcb, but doesn't mean anything in the schematic
2017-10-20T10:59:14 < ohsix> the dude had me redraw a footprint for a thing because it might cause confusion in the future
2017-10-20T10:59:52 < ohsix> the mct6 opto is a weird fucking thing with one of the phototransistor legs flopped from the common 8 pin configuration, i just interchanged the pins
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2017-10-20T11:00:15 < ohsix> that's a massive waste of a hundred bucks
2017-10-20T11:01:05 < ohsix> dude keeps asking me for my phone number too
2017-10-20T11:02:26 < ohsix> wouldnt be so bad if i wasn't working with a local friend & billing on one of his invoices
2017-10-20T11:05:04 < ohsix> and another phone number solicitation :| he's not reviewing the shit i sent him
2017-10-20T11:08:51 < ohsix> PaulFertser: link me to somewhere to get the lunix version
2017-10-20T11:15:14 < PaulFertser> ohsix: I got the windows version, unpacked it using wine
2017-10-20T11:21:52 < ohsix> https://www.microsemi.com/products/fpga-soc/design-resources/programming/flashpro#software from here?
2017-10-20T11:23:10 < PaulFertser> ohsix: can't tell right atm, need to get to my laptop back home. But it was certainly some windows exe file with "smartconsole".
2017-10-20T11:23:16 < ohsix> k
2017-10-20T11:23:17 < PaulFertser> softconsole
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2017-10-20T11:45:40 < ohsix> PaulFertser: it let you download it withotu having an account? i've tried a bunch of links and they all go to their corp license login thing
2017-10-20T11:47:09 < PaulFertser> ohsix: I have probably entered bogus data and it gave me the link
2017-10-20T11:50:57 < qyx> fuk, I ordered ONE capacitor
2017-10-20T11:56:31 < dongs> qyx, quick alert crt
2017-10-20T11:56:37 < dongs> < qyx> fuk, I ordered ONE capacitor
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2017-10-20T11:57:42 < dongs> still pumping
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2017-10-20T12:20:48 < ohsix> qyx: what kind
2017-10-20T12:20:59 < ohsix> extras turn into standard parts, for a while :D
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2017-10-20T12:21:29 < ohsix> pal has massive electrical grid scale ones from nippon chemi-con by the crateload
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2017-10-20T12:23:01 < dongs> < superbia> dis pump https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51oufHJG8JL.jpg ?
2017-10-20T12:23:07 < dongs> i first read that url as containing "NASA"
2017-10-20T12:28:17 < qyx> was not extra, just a mistake
2017-10-20T12:28:26 < qyx> when entering the bom
2017-10-20T12:28:36 < qyx> classic 10u/63V
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2017-10-20T12:37:12 < ohsix> https://diyrobocars.com/
2017-10-20T12:37:26 < ohsix> qyx: nice
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2017-10-20T13:12:58 < ohsix> PaulFertser: ftp://ftp.actel.com/outgoing/RISC-V/toolchain/latest/ actel is the one that had libero and the openocd patches
2017-10-20T13:13:22 < ohsix> they might have them somewhere on actel.com but i gotta get to sleep
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2017-10-20T13:19:06 < PaulFertser> ohsix: ok, thank you. I hope to discuss this later in more details.
2017-10-20T13:19:13 < PaulFertser> ohsix: and anyway I think microsemi should get it straight.
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2017-10-20T13:31:56 < qyx> my flyback rings to 160V :S
2017-10-20T13:34:57 < Thorn> lcsc order status: dispatched (after 3 days)
2017-10-20T14:02:38 < karlp> winning code quality.  using both sinf/cosf _and_ arm_sin_cose_f32() functions at the same time!
2017-10-20T14:04:51 < jpa-> my favourite is writing c++ so that stdlib.h abs() is also in scope; depending on whether one remembers to include cmath, floats get silently converted to ints :P
2017-10-20T14:07:09 < karlp> arm_sin/cos = 30076, mixed = 34592, sinf/cosf only = 32252
2017-10-20T14:07:33 < karlp> jpa-: ouch.
2017-10-20T14:07:53 < karlp> I've learnt repeatedly, yet still find new ones where float/int conversions kill me.
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2017-10-20T14:10:14 < karlp> now, what's impure data again and how do I make it go away
2017-10-20T14:11:04 < jpa-> somehow related to re-entrancy in newlib IIRC
2017-10-20T14:14:54 < karlp> ahha, looks like I've pulled in doubles unexpectedly.
2017-10-20T14:15:02 < karlp> bet I left a fucking f suffix off something
2017-10-20T14:19:47 < karlp> if the if readelf has a 630 byte function GLOBAL HIDDEN __aeabi_dadd, why isn't "dadd" anywhere in objdump -d of the same elf?
2017-10-20T14:24:18 < zyp> duh, because it's HIDDEN
2017-10-20T14:24:22 < zyp> (no, I don't know)
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2017-10-20T14:32:30 < jpa-> karlp: for me, if i take the address "readelf --syms" gives for __aeabi_dadd, in "objdump -d" there is  0805d854 <__adddf3>:
2017-10-20T14:32:56 < jpa-> a dear function has many names
2017-10-20T14:34:55  * karlp grumbles
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2017-10-20T14:35:48 < karlp> heh, added a bunch of f suffixes, code got bigger.
2017-10-20T14:35:49 < karlp> awesome
2017-10-20T14:36:05 < jpa-> add -flto and hopefully it'll get down to 0 bytes
2017-10-20T14:38:27 < zyp> "your code is broken anyway, just optimized it all out"
2017-10-20T14:39:08 < jpa-> "there are so many undefined behaviours that i'm sure you've invoked atleast one of them anyway"
2017-10-20T14:41:09 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-10-20T14:41:21 < zyp> sup Laurenceb?
2017-10-20T14:41:31 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk6oy8LPCF4
2017-10-20T14:41:37 < Laurenceb> need a HAL version of this
2017-10-20T14:41:51 < Laurenceb> does HAL lock up? Yes it always locks up
2017-10-20T14:42:01 < Laurenceb> does it fuck up? Yes it always fucks up
2017-10-20T14:42:10 < Laurenceb> HAL does nothing, HAL does nothing
2017-10-20T14:43:06 < jpa-> "i got a thousand lines"   that doesn't match HAL though
2017-10-20T14:50:09 < Laurenceb> another day of swearing at HAL 4 me
2017-10-20T14:57:11 < Steffanx> Are you maybe doing it wrong? Yes, maybe you are.
2017-10-20T14:57:41 < BrainDamage> laurenceb not halal
2017-10-20T14:57:51 < Laurenceb> ST HALAL
2017-10-20T14:57:57 < Steffanx> Hes a pig?
2017-10-20T14:57:57 < Laurenceb> I can see it already
2017-10-20T14:58:29 < karlp> atmel.com dead
2017-10-20T14:58:47 < Steffanx> Ya
2017-10-20T14:59:01 < Laurenceb> nothing of value was lost
2017-10-20T15:02:05 < daey> works fine here
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2017-10-20T15:31:19 < dongs> < Laurenceb> ST HALAL
2017-10-20T15:31:21 < dongs> fucking lol
2017-10-20T15:31:54 < Laurenceb> is there a list of dmesg usb error codez somewhere?
2017-10-20T15:32:21 < Thorn> in the kernel source
2017-10-20T15:32:26 < Laurenceb> top kek
2017-10-20T15:32:38 < Laurenceb> lunix documentation standards
2017-10-20T15:32:41 < dongs> enjoy sifting through 20gigabytes of garbage
2017-10-20T15:32:52 < Laurenceb> kernel source is cancer
2017-10-20T15:33:01 < Laurenceb> I dont know how anyone can maintain it
2017-10-20T15:33:41 < Laurenceb> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-enterprise-47/list-of-dmesg-error-codes-4175424065/
2017-10-20T15:33:51 < Laurenceb> >Hmm, not sure if such a thing exists. I think each module or component writes its own messages in its own formats
2017-10-20T15:33:56 < Laurenceb> my fucking sides
2017-10-20T15:34:30 < dongs> oh
2017-10-20T15:34:31 < dongs> of course
2017-10-20T15:34:33 < Laurenceb>  "We'll just make up error codes at random as we go along"
2017-10-20T15:34:34 < dongs> not only that
2017-10-20T15:34:40 < dongs> they each invent thier own debug macros too
2017-10-20T15:34:50 < dongs> which eventaully end up beign a printk or wahtever
2017-10-20T15:34:57 < dongs> but you have every different module doing shit their own way
2017-10-20T15:35:19 < dongs> thats lunix for you
2017-10-20T15:35:24 < dongs> quality codez
2017-10-20T15:37:56 < qyx> my hillarious transformer is ringing
2017-10-20T15:38:11 < qyx> and the flyback controller doesn't work because of this
2017-10-20T15:38:20 < qyx> played with the RC snubber a bit
2017-10-20T15:38:24 < qyx> then it worked fine
2017-10-20T15:38:31 < qyx> until the snubber turned into a smoke
2017-10-20T15:39:06 < Laurenceb> 3463310.926950] usb 1-1.5: Product: STM32 Audio Class [3463310.926951] usb 1-1.5: Manufacturer: STMicroelectronics [3463310.926952] usb 1-1.5: SerialNumber: 786C7304
2017-10-20T15:39:09 < Laurenceb> le epin win
2017-10-20T15:39:33 < englishman> what does babby shaking sound like
2017-10-20T15:40:13 < Laurenceb> tiem to find out
2017-10-20T15:40:24 < Laurenceb> 1:1: usb_set_interface failed (-32)
2017-10-20T15:40:26 < Laurenceb> or not...
2017-10-20T15:42:25 < Laurenceb> englishman: u can see power spectrum here http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0954411916680235
2017-10-20T15:42:30 < Laurenceb> if you really want to know
2017-10-20T15:42:34 < Laurenceb> also >SAGE
2017-10-20T16:27:12 < dongs> i can see your spectrum allright
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2017-10-20T16:45:28 < Laurenceb> is there a parser tool for usbmon files?
2017-10-20T16:48:31 < fenugrec> wireshark possibly
2017-10-20T16:53:49 < Laurenceb> found Vusb
2017-10-20T16:53:51 < Laurenceb> seems to work
2017-10-20T16:53:58 < Laurenceb> dunno what its telling me...
2017-10-20T16:55:35 < jpa-> usbmon is like that
2017-10-20T16:55:45 < karlp> hrm.  have one of those 868 hot air stations.  been working good, now, turn it on, works, and after a few seconds the gfci trips.
2017-10-20T16:56:07  * karlp has always just used wiresharek with usbmon 
2017-10-20T16:56:12 < Laurenceb> need to debug this error  ] usb 1-1.5: 1:1: usb_set_interface failed (-32)
2017-10-20T16:56:13 < BrainDamage> thermal expansion of metal makes it touch a grounded part?
2017-10-20T16:56:40 < karlp> BrainDamage: I guess, nothing obvious, and probing it out didn't find any obvious shorts.
2017-10-20T16:56:56 < karlp> totally got $60 worth out of it, but not super excited about just buying another one...
2017-10-20T16:57:20 < BrainDamage> yeah, it's never fun to replace a reliable tool
2017-10-20T16:58:06 < jpa-> does the hot air part run at mains or through a transformer?
2017-10-20T17:01:44 < Laurenceb> SetInterface(alt=256
2017-10-20T17:01:46 < Laurenceb> wtf lunix
2017-10-20T17:01:57 < Laurenceb> no wonder I get Status 32
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2017-10-20T17:05:01 < Laurenceb> ] usb 1-1.5: 1:1: usb_set_interface failed (-32)
2017-10-20T17:05:16 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/aJw7wRd
2017-10-20T17:05:28 < Laurenceb> wtf is going on?
2017-10-20T17:05:38 < fenugrec> karlp is that the model that has a retrofit controller available for it ?
2017-10-20T17:06:03 < Laurenceb> SetConfiguration(256) <- how does that make any sense?
2017-10-20T17:07:45 < karlp> hot air's mains I think, don't remember entirely.
2017-10-20T17:08:04 < karlp> fenugrec: no, but similar.  this is actually oneo fthe solder+hot air, even though we never use the solder part.
2017-10-20T17:08:44 < karlp> Laurenceb: did you fuck up your descriptors?
2017-10-20T17:08:59 < Laurenceb> hmm possible
2017-10-20T17:09:05 < Laurenceb> but lsusb -v looks fine
2017-10-20T17:09:34 < Laurenceb> I'll check the hex against what it should be, doesnt actually look too hard
2017-10-20T17:10:24 < karlp> well, who's calling setconfig(256) then?
2017-10-20T17:14:43 < Laurenceb> PC side?
2017-10-20T17:24:38 < Laurenceb> ok wtf
2017-10-20T17:24:48 < Laurenceb> wrong endianess somewhere
2017-10-20T17:25:14 < Laurenceb> 0x00 0x09 0x00 0x01 should surely be 0x00 0x09 0x01 0x00  ?
2017-10-20T17:28:23 < Laurenceb> ah found it
2017-10-20T17:28:41 < Laurenceb> I do have misalignment by 1 byte in descriptor, thanx
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2017-10-20T17:37:40 < Laurenceb> or not
2017-10-20T17:37:41 < Laurenceb> reee
2017-10-20T17:38:17 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/EtA3kDFD
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2017-10-20T17:38:27 < karlp> nice monolog numnuts, how is anyonemeant to help you?
2017-10-20T17:39:21 < Laurenceb> lul
2017-10-20T17:39:30 < Laurenceb>  "something wrong with usb"
2017-10-20T17:39:31 < karlp> doyou mean to have iconfig = 0?
2017-10-20T17:39:47 < karlp> provide a string there, make the world a better place.
2017-10-20T17:40:15 < karlp> you're not even describing what the problem is, just autistic screeching
2017-10-20T17:40:21 < Laurenceb> lel
2017-10-20T17:40:48 < Laurenceb> ok so I connect the device and it appears on lsusb and looks like so https://pastebin.com/EtA3kDFD
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2017-10-20T17:41:11 < Laurenceb> but on dmesg I get tons of usb_set_interface failed (-32)
2017-10-20T17:41:25 < Laurenceb> so I'm trying to work out why, and atm have 0 idea where to look
2017-10-20T17:41:41 < Laurenceb> this is what usbmon says https://imgur.com/aJw7wRd
2017-10-20T17:42:21 < Laurenceb> that last error -32 is followed by a few hundred repeats in a loop
2017-10-20T17:45:53 < Laurenceb> so I see 00 09 00 01 00 00 00 00 which looks like Set Configuration 256 to me
2017-10-20T17:46:26 < Laurenceb> so no wonder its an error, but why is it sent from PC when lsusb -v shows a single configuration  ?
2017-10-20T17:50:39 < jpa-> < Cracki> I hear ##stm32 is pretty relaxed      what a nice way to describe this channel!
2017-10-20T17:51:51 < BrainDamage> stm32blazeit
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2017-10-20T18:00:09 < Cracki> I like it here.
2017-10-20T18:01:14 < Cracki> sass the pipes, rice wok now, etc ;)
2017-10-20T18:01:46 < Laurenceb> gass the USB
2017-10-20T18:06:18 < dongs> #stm32 is the most stoner-friendly channel
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2017-10-20T18:13:34 < Thorn> are there negative voltages in a bjt astable multivibrator?
2017-10-20T18:16:30 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-20T18:16:36 < Laurenceb> ok I canna work this shit out
2017-10-20T18:16:52 < Laurenceb> for some reason lunix wants interface 256
2017-10-20T18:17:47 < Laurenceb> shit makes no sense
2017-10-20T18:20:25 < Thorn> what is in your descriptor
2017-10-20T18:20:41 < Thorn> it's not supposed to set_interface that you don't have
2017-10-20T18:21:52 < karlp> laurance is using libusb and trying to do openinterface(-1) or something dum
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2017-10-20T18:56:55 < Laurenceb> karlp: no libusb, just plugging into pc
2017-10-20T18:58:25 < karlp> well, same as before, nothing's going to be asking for descriptor 256 "just for fun"
2017-10-20T18:58:33 < Laurenceb> Thorn: https://pastebin.com/UxTina6b
2017-10-20T18:58:40 < karlp> your libusb message did say, "not everything is vailable, shit might be wrong"
2017-10-20T18:58:54 < karlp> I'm guessing that's code for "descriptor was fucked uy0, gonna try and show you what looked ok"
2017-10-20T18:59:09 < Laurenceb> hmm ok
2017-10-20T18:59:28 < Laurenceb> Bus 001 Device 116: ID 0483:5730 STMicroelectronics STM32 Audio Streaming
2017-10-20T18:59:28 < Laurenceb> Couldn't open device, some information will be missing
2017-10-20T18:59:38 < Laurenceb> but it says that for stlink too
2017-10-20T19:00:15 < Thorn> those descriptors look fucked up
2017-10-20T19:00:42 < Laurenceb> Thorn: whereabouts?
2017-10-20T19:01:45 < karlp> chance of laurence geting a raw byte array correct? slim to none
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2017-10-20T19:04:01 < Laurenceb> top trawl
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2017-10-20T19:43:46 < Laurenceb> ok I see
2017-10-20T19:43:54 < Laurenceb> VUsb is confusing
2017-10-20T19:44:22 < Laurenceb> there is a device error when it gets set to configuration 1
2017-10-20T19:44:26 < Laurenceb> so thats not right
2017-10-20T19:51:30 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/message/172388-stm32f042-usb-device-fails
2017-10-20T19:54:01 < karlp> did you go back to your f4 board and try?
2017-10-20T19:54:11 < Laurenceb> no
2017-10-20T19:54:19 < Laurenceb> its tricky, the exact same code wont run
2017-10-20T19:54:21 < karlp> "I can't explain my problem on ##stm32, maybe if I use less words, the st forum will helpme"
2017-10-20T19:54:27  * karlp coughs *bullshit*
2017-10-20T19:54:29 < Laurenceb> as F4 usb is different
2017-10-20T19:54:30 < karlp> drop all your shit
2017-10-20T19:54:38 < karlp> just check your descriptors properly
2017-10-20T19:58:03 < Laurenceb> can't set config #1, error -110
2017-10-20T19:58:06 < Laurenceb> arg wtf
2017-10-20T19:58:13 < Laurenceb> now F4 is broken too
2017-10-20T20:00:53 < Laurenceb> yet lsusb -v looks fine, just like before
2017-10-20T20:15:04 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-20T20:15:12 < Laurenceb> very similar behavious on usbmon
2017-10-20T20:15:18 < Laurenceb> *behaviour
2017-10-20T20:15:35 < Laurenceb> it doesnt like ctrl request to set configuration 1
2017-10-20T20:15:54 < karlp> did you forget to implement a control handler in your usb stack?
2017-10-20T20:15:55 < Laurenceb> but the timing is a little different and dmesg gives a different error number
2017-10-20T20:16:04 < Laurenceb> I'm using ST HAL stack
2017-10-20T20:39:23 < Laurenceb> hmm no luck
2017-10-20T20:39:30 < Laurenceb> truly epic fail
2017-10-20T20:43:35 < zyp> more like ST HAL stuck
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2017-10-20T20:55:18 < fenugrec> Hides All Logic
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2017-10-20T20:57:18 < Steffanx> Ill sue ST. I have to deal with all the whiney whiney because they suck.
2017-10-20T20:59:47 < Cracki> Thorn, astable multivibrator? I did one in falstad circuitjs, and yes the electrolytic caps complained
2017-10-20T21:03:33 < Thorn> how about reverse Vbe of the bjt. iirc it can't be over -5...-6V or the bjt will be cooked
2017-10-20T21:06:14 < Laurenceb> any idea what Status: -104 means on EP 1 IN  ?
2017-10-20T21:06:26 < Laurenceb> in usbmon
2017-10-20T21:06:42 < jpa-> "Connection reset by peer" ;)
2017-10-20T21:07:02 < zyp> probably means you should get a real analyzer
2017-10-20T21:11:34 < Laurenceb> I'll screenshot
2017-10-20T21:12:03 < jpa-> yeah, sure, a crappy error message becomes clearer if you screenshot it into a .jpg and upload to imgur
2017-10-20T21:12:52 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/dIhcnUG
2017-10-20T21:14:30 < Laurenceb> hmf
2017-10-20T21:14:42 < Laurenceb> maybe I should pay a pro developer to hack HAL to work
2017-10-20T21:14:49 < Laurenceb> I canna HANdle it
2017-10-20T21:15:05 < Laurenceb> 2 weeks of epic fail so far
2017-10-20T21:15:16 < Laurenceb> I dont even know what I'm looking at
2017-10-20T21:15:34 < Laurenceb> screen full of incomprehensible errors from unknown places in unknown code
2017-10-20T21:16:14 < Steffanx> crt...
2017-10-20T21:16:53 < Laurenceb> start a kickstarter to find someone to tell me what error -104 is
2017-10-20T21:16:56 < Laurenceb>  UKP4M
2017-10-20T21:17:07 < fenugrec> Thorn indeed, careful of that Vebo rating. Why are you making a discrete bjt multivib, though
2017-10-20T21:17:28 < Steffanx> your "pizza" looks awful superbia
2017-10-20T21:17:34 < Laurenceb> zyp: can you recommend a usb protocol analyser for me to buy?
2017-10-20T21:17:44 < zyp> beagle 480
2017-10-20T21:17:45 < Laurenceb> >cheese pizza
2017-10-20T21:17:49 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-20T21:18:31 < Steffanx> beagle 480 wont solve pebkac issues
2017-10-20T21:18:45 < Laurenceb> yeah but I might make some more progress
2017-10-20T21:19:38 < Laurenceb> not too expensive
2017-10-20T21:19:45 < zyp> $1200-ish last I checked
2017-10-20T21:19:52 < Laurenceb> yeah, nice
2017-10-20T21:20:15 < Laurenceb> better than raging at undocumented shit
2017-10-20T21:21:08 < Steffanx> 1400$ .. now
2017-10-20T21:26:45 < aandrew> Laurenceb: you still struggling with spi hal
2017-10-20T21:27:00 < Laurenceb> aandrew: I gave up trying to fix it
2017-10-20T21:27:04 < aandrew> hm
2017-10-20T21:27:09 < Laurenceb> added a fudge to make fake data then moved on
2017-10-20T21:27:10 < aandrew> did not appear insurmountable
2017-10-20T21:27:20 < Laurenceb> yeah I'll work on it "later"
2017-10-20T21:27:29 < aandrew> yep the mythical later
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2017-10-20T21:32:56 < Laurenceb> yay it works
2017-10-20T21:33:00 < Laurenceb>  (on discovery)
2017-10-20T21:33:11 < Laurenceb> time for cheese pizza
2017-10-20T21:33:27 < Laurenceb> some sort of WWDG issue
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2017-10-20T21:38:12 < Cracki> >cheese pizza
2017-10-20T21:38:22 < Cracki> is that on podesta's menu?
2017-10-20T21:42:02 < Steffanx> quattro fromagi.
2017-10-20T21:47:56 < BrainDamage> formaggi
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2017-10-20T21:52:02 < ds2> -104 on Linux?
2017-10-20T21:52:40 < ds2> did the remote side do a reset on the linux?
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2017-10-20T21:53:36 < ds2> IIRC, some devices do that as part of start up - enumerate as type A, get a firmware, reset itself, and re-enumerate as the final type
2017-10-20T21:54:39 < zyp> yeah, it's common in fx2-based devices and similar
2017-10-20T21:55:16 < zyp> AFAIK they don't have user-writable flash internally, so you can either add external flash to hold firmware or just load firmware over usb
2017-10-20T21:56:00 < ds2> *nod*
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2017-10-20T22:24:12 < Laurenceb> looks like the data packing within transfers is also screwy
2017-10-20T22:24:21 < Laurenceb> probably isnt helping
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2017-10-20T22:36:10 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/dlec3eR
2017-10-20T22:36:14 < Laurenceb> le epin skillz
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2017-10-20T23:13:54 < delvingDeeper> Hey everyone! so glad I found this channel, I'm moving into learning more about the registers and have a question on the ISR. It seems that I can't access the ISR from my code, only the LISR and HISR, I'm not sure how this is different. Why would there be a high and low ISR?
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2017-10-21T00:16:26 < delvingDeeper> Can anyone plz help?:) there seems to be a DMA statetypedef online (HAL_DMA_STATE_READY_HALF) that isn't deifined in my stm32f7xx_hal_dma.h... should i define this in some way or is this something that isn't used anymore? :/
2017-10-21T00:18:00 < zyp> delvingDeeper, which ISR register?
2017-10-21T00:18:19 < zyp> also, which stm32 family are we talking about?
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2017-10-21T00:18:32 < zyp> oh, you said f7 already, sorry, I missed that
2017-10-21T00:19:15 < delvingDeeper> Yep f7, I'm using the stm32f722ze on a nucleo f722ze
2017-10-21T00:19:32 < zyp> okay, and you're talking about DMA_LISR and DMA_HISR?
2017-10-21T00:19:34 < delvingDeeper> I figured out the ISR register :) but every inch I gain in knowledge is a struggle
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2017-10-21T00:20:13 < zyp> the explanation for those being two registers are because they're 32 bits each, and on a 32-bit bus
2017-10-21T00:20:26 < delvingDeeper> Yep, I figured out the DMA_ISR was broken up into DMA_LISR and DMA_HISR, where LISR covers streams 0-3 and HISR 4-7
2017-10-21T00:21:26 < delvingDeeper> Ok. I was looking at older example code from an application note, and a lot has changed. They use to program direct to ISR, so it threw me off when I saw HISR and LISR
2017-10-21T00:21:56 < zyp> it's probably a difference in how it's declared in the lib you're using
2017-10-21T00:22:50 < delvingDeeper> Also the HAL_DMA_STATE_READY_HALF flag doesn't seem to exist in my h file.. not sure if I should redefine this in some way?
2017-10-21T00:22:55 < zyp> (e.g. two registers or an array with length 2)
2017-10-21T00:23:15 < zyp> well, you shouldn't
2017-10-21T00:23:52 < zyp> if you run into missing defines like that, it's probably either a bug in the lib you're using, or you've missed an include or something
2017-10-21T00:25:25 < delvingDeeper> Ok thank you zyp ! appreciate the help! It's def the library I'm using then. My states only contain these https://pastebin.com/ucjpBuAz
2017-10-21T00:28:14 < zyp> hmm
2017-10-21T00:28:39 < zyp> delvingDeeper, is READY meant to mean done? i.e. transfer finished?
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2017-10-21T00:29:04 < zyp> the comment doesn't read like it, but there's no other state for done
2017-10-21T00:29:27 < zyp> and READY_HALF sounds like the «half done» event
2017-10-21T00:30:04 < zyp> maybe it doesn't exist in your lib because your chip doesn't have a «half done» event (I haven't checked if it does or not)
2017-10-21T00:30:31 < zyp> although that would be a bit weird :)
2017-10-21T00:31:10 < delvingDeeper> Yes, When the transfer is complete, ready for the DMA should be used. It's a buffer that the DMA is transferring into so when the buffer is half full the ready_half flag should be set and when the dma is completely done with the buffer it should fire the ready, although I am using buffers and have a half transfer flag, but no state to set for it
2017-10-21T00:32:38 < delvingDeeper> This is where I'm at now with the hdma being the handle type for my dma. that state is just a ? for now, will get back to it https://pastebin.com/78fHQWU9
2017-10-21T00:39:10 < delvingDeeper> I dont know much, but what exactly do you need to know? Maybe ask on reddit ?
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2017-10-21T01:31:06 < ohsix> h3h
2017-10-21T01:31:12 < ohsix> eagle autorouter isn't bad enough to not use
2017-10-21T01:31:24 < ohsix> if you spend some time placing parts in logical blocks and stuff
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2017-10-21T01:32:21 < ohsix> on the high optimization levels it uses these weird random walk trial traces
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2017-10-21T01:36:27 < delvingDeeper> Anyone here done something like the appnote an4666 ? Parallel synchronous transmission using GPIO and DMA?
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2017-10-21T02:54:53 < Laurenceb_> sup trolls
2017-10-21T02:55:04 < Laurenceb_> I think I know why SPI failz with HAL
2017-10-21T02:55:37 < Laurenceb_> the DMA handlers are in the wrong order inside the ISR
2017-10-21T02:55:54 < Laurenceb_> CubeMX writes rx then tx, it needs to be tx, rx
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2017-10-21T03:17:00 < delvingDeeper> What do you mean it fails?
2017-10-21T03:17:21 < delvingDeeper> I've used it a few times, not with cube though, just the HAL
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2017-10-21T03:25:31 < Laurenceb_> delvingDeeper: it becomes unresponsive and in the BUSY_TX_RX state
2017-10-21T03:26:19 < delvingDeeper> Hmm. thanks for the headsup! I was going to use cube to generate it. Will look into it
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2017-10-21T03:26:52 < Laurenceb_> it looks like a single line fix
2017-10-21T03:27:00 < Laurenceb_> havent tested this yet
2017-10-21T03:27:14 < delvingDeeper> Maybe post this to the stm community ? They could fix it then for future uses
2017-10-21T03:28:08 < Laurenceb_> I think this IRQ handler is already a bug fix from the ST forumz
2017-10-21T03:28:20 < Laurenceb_> https://community.st.com/thread/26273
2017-10-21T03:28:41 < Laurenceb_> I have same bug but its much harder to trigger
2017-10-21T03:29:51 < Laurenceb_> HAL_DMA_IRQHandler(&hdma_spi1_tx) was added to newer CubeMX projects, but I think it needs to be before HAL_DMA_IRQHandler(&hdma_spi1_rx) not after it
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2017-10-21T04:03:59 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/C6EWKbq.jpg
2017-10-21T04:07:07 < dongs> longcat is long
2017-10-21T04:07:46 < branjb> would it be a dumb idea to make a quadcopter transmitter with an IMU in it, quadcopter in the air mimics orientation of IMU in your hand?
2017-10-21T04:07:59 < branjb> can't figure out if that's ingenous or retarded
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2017-10-21T04:10:08 < dongs> you're late to the party
2017-10-21T04:10:19 < dongs> chink $10 copters have been doing this for years
2017-10-21T04:10:20 < branjb> that's already a thing?
2017-10-21T04:10:22 < branjb> lol
2017-10-21T04:10:26 < dongs> their phone control apps can use accelerometer
2017-10-21T04:10:30 < dongs> so you just tilt the phone around
2017-10-21T04:10:30 < branjb> rip
2017-10-21T04:10:31 < dongs> to move shit
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2017-10-21T04:12:26 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/920873394421170177
2017-10-21T04:15:09 < branjb> what about a fitbit type sensor for dildos
2017-10-21T04:15:10 < branjb> to track stats
2017-10-21T04:16:25 < dongs> i madea bluetooth dildo
2017-10-21T04:16:30 < dongs> with an app
2017-10-21T04:16:33 < dongs> to track performance
2017-10-21T04:16:36 < dongs> yearsa go
2017-10-21T04:16:46 < branjb> fuck is there anything that hasn't already been invented
2017-10-21T04:18:52 < Laurenceb_> fusion energy
2017-10-21T04:19:00 < Laurenceb_> mars colonisation
2017-10-21T04:19:10 < branjb> no monetization model in either of those
2017-10-21T04:19:17 < Laurenceb_> interstellar transport
2017-10-21T04:19:37 < Laurenceb_> ... working hyperloop /troll
2017-10-21T04:19:41 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWsQgmq-fNs
2017-10-21T04:19:52 < Laurenceb_> working ST HAL
2017-10-21T04:19:58 < branjb> i should start a company that promises to take people to mars, but really just drops them off in the middle of the desert in nevada
2017-10-21T04:20:03 < Laurenceb_> lul
2017-10-21T04:20:16 < Laurenceb_> hmm ok
2017-10-21T04:20:25 < Laurenceb_> same code runs on F4, failz on F042
2017-10-21T04:20:32 < Laurenceb_> for my usb audio
2017-10-21T04:20:41 < branjb> but i thought all ST code was ~ultra portable~
2017-10-21T04:20:57 < Laurenceb_> only difference is the interrupt config, maybe that is where the issue is
2017-10-21T04:21:04 < Laurenceb_> or processor is too slow
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2017-10-21T04:30:36 < upgrdman> nice   https://gfycat.com/SnoopyDecisiveAntarcticfurseal
2017-10-21T04:31:11 < branjb> wonder if there is an stm32 in that
2017-10-21T04:36:15 < Thorn> probably programmed with HAL, because it exploded too early
2017-10-21T04:37:01 < branjb> python4stm32
2017-10-21T04:38:11 < karlp> can I introduce you to micropython?
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2017-10-21T04:46:48 < Laurenceb_> ok I had another read of my usb logz
2017-10-21T04:47:03 < Laurenceb_> https://community.st.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/44551-1-9947/Screenshot%20at%202017-10-20%2015-03-36.png
2017-10-21T04:47:29 < Laurenceb_> my reading now is that there is an error in response to a get descriptor control request?
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2017-10-21T05:52:56 < fenugrec> "  or processor is too slow " certainly not, unless the USB stack design is totally silly.
2017-10-21T05:53:38 < fenugrec> get a logic analyzer on D+/D- . Even a cheap logic16 clone will do fine
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2017-10-21T07:07:22 < stvn> peter's
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2017-10-21T07:10:46 < stvn> ejaculation station
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2017-10-21T08:19:10 < ohsix> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMn7FJoX0AA49Gf.jpg:large
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2017-10-21T08:49:42 < ohsix> balls
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2017-10-21T08:50:08 < ohsix> i finished that pcb this afternoon and sent it to him to review it
2017-10-21T08:50:20 < ohsix> he just said 'call me'
2017-10-21T08:50:32 < ohsix> wasting everyones fucking tiiiiiiiiiiime
2017-10-21T08:50:50 < ohsix> i'll probably end up cutting him out with the biz we're both working with, less drama
2017-10-21T08:57:53 < ohsix> don't normally throw around accusations of mental illness but this situation is very weird
2017-10-21T09:00:27 < PaulFertser> ohsix: ok, the file I downloaded was called 'Microsemi-SoftConsole-v4.0.0.13-Linux-x86-Installer' and I think I got it from https://www.microsemi.com/products/fpga-soc/design-resources/design-software/softconsole but it requires registering now. I can't find any mail from them, not sure if I registered or not. And here's the binary they're distributing in it: http://paste.debian.net/991932/
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2017-10-21T09:01:06 < ohsix> lul boost
2017-10-21T09:01:17 < stvn> 06
2017-10-21T09:01:20 < ohsix> i tried to grab a few variants of the stuff that would include it and it was only in the risc-v one
2017-10-21T09:01:31 < ohsix> did you follow up re: looking on actel's website
2017-10-21T09:02:16 < ohsix> libfpcomm sounds familiar
2017-10-21T09:02:23 < PaulFertser> No, didn't
2017-10-21T09:02:51 < PaulFertser> I clearly remember I was able to download it without much hassle. Probably I registered, can't be sure now.
2017-10-21T09:03:18 < PaulFertser> Or probably the registration form was different half a year ago.
2017-10-21T09:04:53 < ohsix> i did register and download some junk
2017-10-21T09:05:14 < PaulFertser> Have you managed to spot gpl violations?
2017-10-21T09:05:53 < ohsix> http://www.actel.com/products/ip/search/detail.aspx?id=635 hurr aeroflex
2017-10-21T09:06:01 < ohsix> nah i was just looking for openocd
2017-10-21T09:06:27 < PaulFertser> I think you'll find it in SoftConsole v4.
2017-10-21T09:09:04 < ohsix> they've distributed code for their changed sdcc version
2017-10-21T09:09:32 < ohsix> you shouldn't have to, but this migh tbe a thing that is on the internet archive somewhere and just lost in the shuffle
2017-10-21T09:09:56 < ohsix> jus tneed to assert copyright
2017-10-21T09:10:11 < PaulFertser> They now must distribute not only modified openocd sources but also that libfp* libraries sources under GPL. Or they must stop distributing openocd altogether afaict.
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2017-10-21T09:17:26 < ohsix> i'd go after their customers
2017-10-21T09:21:47 < ohsix> eh
2017-10-21T09:22:10 < ohsix> if you read teh release notes, they use the codesourcery toolchain & the flashpro stuff is in it
2017-10-21T09:22:25 < ohsix> their 'debug sprite' also did the shit
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2017-10-21T09:26:00 < ohsix> how is codesourcery able to distribute binaries with that crud included?
2017-10-21T09:34:25 < PaulFertser> I think if I was able to download the software I'm already a customer.
2017-10-21T09:35:16 < PaulFertser> ohsix: can't you just tell them to release all the openocd mods and libfp sources?
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2017-10-21T09:50:29 < dongs> i feel so sorry for any software/hardware vendor that is forced to provide lunix shit
2017-10-21T09:51:37 < stvn> well
2017-10-21T09:51:53 < dongs> < PaulFertser> http://paste.debian.net/991932/
2017-10-21T09:51:57 < dongs> look at all that garbage
2017-10-21T09:52:12 < dongs> any minor version change a month from now and entire lunix house of cards comes crashing down
2017-10-21T09:52:24 < dongs> meanwhile i can run mspaint.exe from NT3.51 from 1995 in 2017
2017-10-21T09:52:27 < dongs> without  changes
2017-10-21T09:52:58 < dongs> and honestly, mspaint is probably more capable than openocd
2017-10-21T09:53:09 < dongs> if only because it SIMPLY WORKS
2017-10-21T09:53:12 < dongs> which cannot be said about openocd
2017-10-21T09:55:58 < machinehum> erm
2017-10-21T09:56:50 < dongs> try me. come up with a reason why lunix software isn't garbage.
2017-10-21T09:56:54 < dongs> I'll be here to prove you wrong.
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2017-10-21T09:58:33 < ohsix> heheheh codesourcery's website
2017-10-21T09:58:33 < ohsix> Linux® is a registered trademark of Linux Tolvalds in the U.S. and other countries. The registered trademark Linux® is used pursuant to a sublicense from LMI, the exclusive licensee of Linux Tolvalds, owner of the mark on a world-wide basis.
2017-10-21T10:03:47 < dongs> who the fuck is that moron
2017-10-21T10:05:31 < dongs> haha
2017-10-21T10:09:03 < stvn> put a baby in a slut
2017-10-21T10:09:06 < stvn> then punch her in the gut
2017-10-21T10:09:40 < PaulFertser> dongs: do you mean boost library versions? They're not "lunix" specific.
2017-10-21T10:10:47 < ohsix> digikey is checking names against denied persons list
2017-10-21T10:10:50 < ohsix> other people are starting to notice
2017-10-21T10:11:22 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtTwxs8dlnQ lolwut, mainframe for ordering stuff from element14??????/
2017-10-21T10:20:33 < dongs> superbia1: notice how the only sizes available are 3XL
2017-10-21T10:20:43 < dongs> (for the tshirt
2017-10-21T10:24:42 < stvn> probably 0 sold
2017-10-21T10:24:54 < dongs> yeah
2017-10-21T10:24:58 < dongs> lunix fags dont pay for shit
2017-10-21T10:25:02 < dongs> they expect tshirt to be free as in beer
2017-10-21T10:28:30 < stvn> this is a good ##stm32 hour
2017-10-21T10:36:44 < stvn> a real good one
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2017-10-21T10:43:17 < zyp> dongs, now I'm waiting to see you flash a chip through mspaint
2017-10-21T10:44:00 < dongs> zyp, its probably easier than doing it with openocd
2017-10-21T10:45:55 < zyp> looking forward to see
2017-10-21T10:46:54 < zyp> oh, I drove past a DONG sign the other day
2017-10-21T10:47:12 < ohsix> there's a dang's vietnamese place here
2017-10-21T10:47:18 < ohsix> pronounced dongs
2017-10-21T10:47:31 < dongs> dong energy?
2017-10-21T10:47:55 < zyp> yeah
2017-10-21T10:48:12 < zyp> I probably charged my car with dong energy
2017-10-21T10:48:19 < ohsix> zyp: you hear about the dell monitor hax? lcd controller is x86 & there's essentially a peek/poke vendor command thing in ddc
2017-10-21T10:49:02 < ohsix> for firmware upgrades from a computer without a flash drive, it simulates a flash drive on one of the hub ports and other vendor commands to servie read requests
2017-10-21T10:49:17 < zyp> ohsix, heh
2017-10-21T10:49:34 < ohsix> anyways, you could flash a chip with the screen contents and the hub on the monitor talking to the probe
2017-10-21T10:49:52 < zyp> haha
2017-10-21T10:50:18 < zyp> dongs, ohsix just figured out how to flash through mspaint
2017-10-21T10:51:01 < ohsix> in the preso they show a 3 pixel covert channel for sending commands to the lcd controller, to scrape the screen or whatever
2017-10-21T10:51:46 < ohsix> https://github.com/RedBalloonShenanigans/MonitorDarkly huh dang, it was last year
2017-10-21T10:52:04 < ohsix> timing matched with recent defcon & the context i saw it in
2017-10-21T10:52:26 < dongs> press and hold ctrl-i?
2017-10-21T10:53:08 < ohsix> lcd controller can draw on top of shit too; cooperating with the host to fake login screens or whatever
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2017-10-21T11:29:12 < dongs> what? thunderbolt is "open" now?
2017-10-21T11:29:19 < dongs> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/05/24/intel_thunderbolt_3forall/
2017-10-21T11:32:34 < PaulFertser> ohsix: their defcon slides imply that they're doing all the research permanently drunk. Do you know why is that so?
2017-10-21T11:33:16 < dongs> > defcon
2017-10-21T11:33:17 < dongs> > drunk
2017-10-21T11:33:23 < dongs> thats like, a given
2017-10-21T11:33:28 < dongs> nobody normal attends those "cons"
2017-10-21T11:36:06 < dongs> ah hm
2017-10-21T11:36:06 < dongs> just "royalty-free"
2017-10-21T11:36:06 < dongs> datasheets or any kinda specs are sill all behind some paywall
2017-10-21T11:38:42 < dongs> https://newsroom.intel.com/editorials/envision-world-thunderbolt-3-everywhere/
2017-10-21T11:38:55 < dongs> ohh, "to the industry"
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2017-10-21T11:45:05 < PaulFertser> ohsix: but the images imply that those two team members who drink are always sad, and the one who doesn't is in neutral mood.
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2017-10-21T15:11:12 < oofscr> hi folks. i'm feleling kind of stupid right now, but i am quite new to stm32 programming (using eclipse, cubemx, openstm32, linux). now, the thing i do not understand is: i am using a stm32f103c8t6 dev board with stlink v2, everything working fine so far. but i am trying to count us with tim4, prescaler 71. my expected duration of a certain operation would be 300us, but usb data says it's ~9000. even crazier: when i use 143 as a presca
2017-10-21T15:11:12 < oofscr> ler, the "measured" duration increases to ~30000. i am using __hal_tim_get_counter. any ideas?
2017-10-21T15:12:11 < oofscr> my idea was to configure the counter for 1/us, therefor 71 prescaler with 72MHz internal clock source
2017-10-21T15:12:33 < oofscr> are there common things which can interfere with the timer register?
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2017-10-21T15:14:32 < Rob235> sprechen ze deutche
2017-10-21T15:15:02 < oofscr> ja
2017-10-21T15:15:25 < oofscr> oh, das war gar nicht auf meine frage bezogen
2017-10-21T15:15:29 < oofscr> sorry
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2017-10-21T15:58:56 < Laurenceb_> > Elon Musk using Tesla's name for his venture in a big way is oddly prescient. As he aged, Nicholas' crackpot ideas grew weirder and wilder. He embraced the occult and went batshit crazy and died in poverty.
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2017-10-21T16:39:05 < Steffanx> Better fix your spi dma issue Laurenceb_
2017-10-21T16:39:28 < Laurenceb_> too busy fixing usb
2017-10-21T16:39:40 < Laurenceb_> looks like Status: -32 is EPIPE
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2017-10-21T16:40:32 < Laurenceb_> https://community.st.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/44551-1-9947/Screenshot%20at%202017-10-20%2015-03-36.png
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2017-10-21T16:55:05 < Laurenceb_> USB SOF jitter spec is only +-250ns aiui?
2017-10-21T16:55:41 < Laurenceb_> thats pretty much good enough for USB synced synthetic aperture SDR systems O_o
2017-10-21T17:04:36 < jpa-> is it really? considering that high-speed usb only goes some 10 meters or so and 250 ns is like 75 meters at lightspeed? so wouldn't any reasonable synthetic aperture system have to be thousands of meters in size to fit within that spec?
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2017-10-21T17:11:16 < zyp> 5m per segment according to spec
2017-10-21T17:25:43 < Laurenceb_> I was assuming the synthetic aperture system was about that large yes :P
2017-10-21T17:26:20 < Laurenceb_> just thinking about a "hardware free" solution using SDR and ntpd
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2017-10-21T19:27:10 < upgrdman> https://imgur.com/vJ7WNh6
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2017-10-21T20:01:55 < Laurenceb_> has anyone here actually got F042 USB running with CubeMX?
2017-10-21T20:27:25 < invzim> got 072 running
2017-10-21T20:30:34 < oofscr> is it possible that usb dma blocks adc dma in some way?
2017-10-21T20:31:34 < oofscr> i use HAL_ADC_Start_DMA but i have strange zero-filled gaps in my results (which i receive via usb)
2017-10-21T20:37:02 < zyp> oofscr, what part?
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2017-10-21T20:45:26 < oofscr> zyp, i am using a uint32_t[128] adc dma buffer of which i transmit the upper/lower half at the hal_adc_convcpltcallback and the half callback
2017-10-21T20:47:46 < oofscr> strange thing is, i connect the adc to 3.3v ref, and i get pretty clean values ~4k (=12 bit max). but i also have some gaps filled with zero, both data and gaps are 256 byte length multiples.
2017-10-21T20:48:08 < oofscr> normally, the result should be always ~4k for every sample
2017-10-21T20:48:40 < oofscr> the gaps and data length look random
2017-10-21T20:49:55 < oofscr> https://imagebin.ca/v/3eZYRqDRzxqU
2017-10-21T20:49:58 < Thorn> https://thehackernews.com/2017/10/iot-botnet-malware-attack.html
2017-10-21T20:51:14 < oofscr> the stm32f103x8t6 should basically just be a usb adc, no magic, and most code generated by cubemx, like 20 self written lines of code
2017-10-21T20:51:22 < oofscr> *c8t6
2017-10-21T20:52:44 < oofscr> here's my main.c: https://pastebin.com/3rpQnVA0
2017-10-21T20:54:29 < zyp> oofscr, so you're using f1?
2017-10-21T20:54:36 < zyp> f1 doesn't have DMA for USB
2017-10-21T20:54:41 < zyp> so that's totally unrelated
2017-10-21T20:56:32 < zyp> bus contention could still happen, of course, but that sounds unlikely
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2017-10-21T21:02:08 < branjb> routing eth differential pairs and having to go through vias, ok if impedence is still matched?
2017-10-21T21:02:38 < branjb> looking at example https://imgur.com/a/90n06 looks like tx/rx diff pairsi drop through vias and cross each other
2017-10-21T21:02:40 < branjb> how bad is that
2017-10-21T21:03:02 < oofscr> how can the adc buffer even be zero-filled, when it always has 3.3v?
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2017-10-21T21:05:08 < branjb> nm me idiot
2017-10-21T21:07:05 < Laurenceb_> <invzim> using CRS  ?
2017-10-21T21:07:16 < Laurenceb_> do you need to enable CRS in CubeMX?
2017-10-21T21:15:16 < zyp> probably
2017-10-21T21:15:42 < Laurenceb_> hmm maybe I've missed it
2017-10-21T21:16:23 < zyp> well, usb «works» without CRS, but HSI48 won't be guaranteed to run within USB spec if CRS isn't active
2017-10-21T21:16:35 < zyp> so YMMV
2017-10-21T21:16:59 < invzim> Laurenceb_: yup, crs
2017-10-21T21:17:04 < zyp> (I've ran it without CRS on l0, which is identical to f0 wrt usb
2017-10-21T21:17:07 < zyp> )
2017-10-21T21:17:38 < Laurenceb_> might explain my issues I guess
2017-10-21T21:18:06 < invzim> hm, what will cause a ceramic cap to fail?
2017-10-21T21:18:50 < invzim> two ubiquiti ap's had same cap fail, causing rail to short to gnd
2017-10-21T21:19:02 < invzim> good for me, as I now got a dope home wifi setup
2017-10-21T21:19:44  * Laurenceb_ is hunting for the spi dma lockup in cubemx hal codez
2017-10-21T21:19:46 < Laurenceb_> funtimes
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2017-10-21T21:21:36 < invzim> Laurenceb_: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8P7XCTh21esak5jVVFvTEE2SG8/view
2017-10-21T21:22:10 < Laurenceb_> ah under RCC
2017-10-21T21:22:32 < Laurenceb_> yeah I think I'm missing that - dont have ioc file on this pc tho, doh
2017-10-21T21:22:38 < Laurenceb_> thanks
2017-10-21T21:23:08 < invzim> I used the clock-connfig thingie in cube to pipe it out MCO
2017-10-21T21:23:13 < invzim> so I could verify with scope
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2017-10-21T21:23:29 < Laurenceb_> now I have to work out how to update the project when I've edited a load of cube files
2017-10-21T21:23:51 < Laurenceb_> presumably that controls the rcc stuff, so not too hard to fix
2017-10-21T21:23:54 < invzim> pita, I keep a cube folder and an eclipse folder - and copy files over
2017-10-21T21:23:59 < qyx> invzim: high voltage?
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2017-10-21T21:24:20 < Laurenceb_> yeah there is a file merge thing built into cube, but you have to stick to the user sections
2017-10-21T21:24:35 < invzim> qyx: location is after an LDO
2017-10-21T21:24:39 < invzim> which works
2017-10-21T21:24:57 < invzim> so it's a little odd, maybe just a bad batch
2017-10-21T21:25:42 < invzim> POE stuff tho, so the power topology is a little over my paygrade
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2017-10-21T21:27:05 < invzim> Laurenceb_: I don't trust that stuff, I just use the cube generated files, one file pr perhipheral
2017-10-21T21:27:32 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats how I'm doing it
2017-10-21T21:27:56 < Laurenceb_> but I don't trust HAL code at all :P
2017-10-21T21:28:12 < Laurenceb_> been struggling with DMA SPI for ages
2017-10-21T21:28:27 < Laurenceb_> sometimes goes it Busy state and stays there forever
2017-10-21T21:29:44 < invzim> hmm, I think I had some issues with it but got it sorted
2017-10-21T21:29:51 < invzim> I think I had issues with every damn perhipheral tbh
2017-10-21T21:30:01 < invzim> that was on f4 tho
2017-10-21T21:32:59 < Laurenceb_> its some sort of race condition to do with spi/dma interaction
2017-10-21T21:50:34 < Laurenceb_> I have a weird variant of this bug
2017-10-21T21:50:35 < Laurenceb_> https://community.st.com/thread/26273
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2017-10-21T22:01:01 < Laurenceb_> hmm tiem to draw flow diagrams
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2017-10-21T22:01:25 < Laurenceb_> I think the last guys fix needs to be applied even to latest HAL to avoid race conditions
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2017-10-21T22:05:09 < Thorn> unpossible, TH ceramic cap kit up to 10µF https://www.aliexpress.com/item/500Pcs-50V-0-1uF-10uF-104-106-10values-x50-Multlayer-Ceramic-Capacitor-Assorted-kit-with-storage/32798011996.html
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2017-10-21T22:07:56 < Laurenceb_> literally eestor
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2017-10-21T22:12:52 < Steffanx>  \o/
2017-10-21T22:13:30 < Steffanx> Does this end rage o'clock Laurenceb_?
2017-10-21T22:24:55 < Laurenceb_> maybe
2017-10-21T22:25:07 < Laurenceb_> flow diagram tiem
2017-10-21T22:25:11 < Steffanx> Better get that beer ready. because its almost time for weeeekend.
2017-10-21T22:26:21 < Laurenceb_> Cool Stroy Brothers have been busy
2017-10-21T22:26:23 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/76jfnw/we_have_thrust/
2017-10-21T22:27:01 < Laurenceb_> wtf am I reading O_o
2017-10-21T22:27:23 < Laurenceb_> this looks legit https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Wuir9-DSiUSU9neHMyYjQ0LW8/view
2017-10-21T22:27:46 < Laurenceb_> what the ... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Wuir9-DSiUcnBnOEFlX3FHSnc/view
2017-10-21T22:27:51 < branjb> dude just invented a warp drive and posted it on youtube
2017-10-21T22:28:08 < Laurenceb_> > My theory was that a faster current would get closer to the Higgs boson
2017-10-21T22:28:10 < Laurenceb_> my sides
2017-10-21T22:28:31 < Laurenceb_> this is a very Poe project
2017-10-21T22:28:35 < branjb> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2Wuir9-DSiUcnBnOEFlX3FHSnc/view
2017-10-21T22:28:38 < branjb> check out that setup
2017-10-21T22:28:59 < Laurenceb_> I found the Higgs Boson, it was hiding under my bed
2017-10-21T22:29:26 < Steffanx> that setup reminds me of some other youtube inventor
2017-10-21T22:29:36 < Laurenceb_> >  If a current is going backwards or half as fast but twice as big then it cancels out.
2017-10-21T22:29:38 < Laurenceb_> BIGLY
2017-10-21T22:32:00 < Laurenceb_> PotomacNeuronMS; Electrical Engineering 0 points 5 days ago I suggest you post your new physics to "the other forum", https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42978.2160
2017-10-21T22:32:05 < Laurenceb_> ^supreme trolling
2017-10-21T22:32:38 < Steffanx> oh, now i know why the setup looks familiar. It IS a russian/ukranian/whatever close to there.
2017-10-21T22:32:59 < Laurenceb_> I thought they were more sane
2017-10-21T22:33:10 < Laurenceb_> surely only a Murican could be that insane
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2017-10-21T22:52:38 < Steffanx> Explains why mr. father lb. went to the US of A Laurenceb_ :P
2017-10-21T23:06:13 < Laurenceb_> still more likely to work than emdrive
2017-10-21T23:07:22 < Thorn> https://go.twitch.tv/handmade_hero raytracer being coded
2017-10-21T23:08:52 < Rob235> https://rjfeddeler.github.io/DrawBotPanel/ :)
2017-10-21T23:10:32 < Rob235> me?
2017-10-21T23:10:32 < Rob235> yes
2017-10-21T23:10:49 < Rob235> haha
2017-10-21T23:12:26 < Rob235> uhh html5 css3 and bootstrap 4
2017-10-21T23:13:20 < Rob235> Its going to be a esp8266 on my drawing robot serving the pages so it will just modify a couple pages with the variables on it, everything else is client side
2017-10-21T23:13:57 < Rob235> I haven't done any backend stuff, this is basically my first webpage
2017-10-21T23:16:43 < qyx> bootstrap \o/
2017-10-21T23:16:50 < Rob235> :)
2017-10-21T23:16:56 < qyx> I don't do webs, but I liked bootstrap
2017-10-21T23:17:07 < qyx> also the jqueryui
2017-10-21T23:17:07 < Rob235> everyone bitches about bootstrap but it was perfect for what I needed
2017-10-21T23:18:36 < Rob235> I gotta fix the discrepancies between browsers and resolutions that I don't have set up correctly for scaling or whatever
2017-10-21T23:19:07 < Rob235> I'm sure there is, but for what I wanted it worked well
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2017-10-21T23:36:07 < qyx> looks like efd12 cores are not easily available
2017-10-21T23:36:40 < qyx> I am trying to find a coilformer&core with height <= 6mm
2017-10-21T23:38:25 < upgrdman> arent most coilformer division >6mm pitch?
2017-10-21T23:40:14 < qyx> wut
2017-10-21T23:40:16 < qyx> http://katalog.we-online.de/en/pbs/WE-PoE#vs_t1:2_ct:1
2017-10-21T23:40:19 < qyx> those look good
2017-10-21T23:44:14 < Laurenceb_> ok I found the error
2017-10-21T23:44:39 < Laurenceb_> with DMA, SPI can get stuck with DMA tx transfer complete and tx transfer complete interrupt disabled
2017-10-21T23:45:36 < Laurenceb_> as ST handle stuff in the wrong order (and also have a shit ton of unnecessary half transfer and tx+rx interrupts firing)
2017-10-21T23:45:59 < Laurenceb_> guy from the forumz has the right idea for how to fix it
2017-10-21T23:47:37 < Laurenceb_> the "lockup" state is where tx dma incorrectly thinks its completed and it's interrupt has been disabled, meanwhile rx dma cant run because the spi peripheral needs data
2017-10-21T23:48:00 < Laurenceb_> so the higher level hspi driver gets stuck in BUSY_TX_RX forever
2017-10-21T23:59:47 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/rMrtbu5.png
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2017-10-22T00:00:21 < Laurenceb_> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/989/589/8db.png
2017-10-22T00:01:58 < Laurenceb_> since the web was born
2017-10-22T00:02:40 < upgrdman> who dat
2017-10-22T00:02:47 < upgrdman> is that the port arthur guy?
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2017-10-22T00:05:48 < Laurenceb_> wtf I need oracle account to grab java warez
2017-10-22T00:05:50 < Laurenceb_> reeeee
2017-10-22T00:06:12 < Laurenceb_> epin win https://gist.github.com/scottvrosenthal/11187116
2017-10-22T00:07:17 < Laurenceb_> and it failz
2017-10-22T00:08:29 < Laurenceb_> something new to try today
2017-10-22T00:11:07 < Laurenceb_> reee fucking oracle
2017-10-22T00:16:26 < emeryth> why not just use freetard eclipse then?
2017-10-22T00:18:33 < Laurenceb_> surely someone has java warez on a server somewhere
2017-10-22T00:18:56 < Laurenceb_> freaking David Camer-moron b& torrents on uk interwabz
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2017-10-22T00:20:35 < Thorn> need a cheap, simple i2c dac in a package with leads. has to be cheap.
2017-10-22T00:21:00 < Laurenceb_> found it, but bazillion megabyte
2017-10-22T00:21:06 < Laurenceb_> now I cant fap to pronz
2017-10-22T00:21:46 < Laurenceb_> https://www.anglaisfacile.com/cgi2/myexam/images2/87758.jpg
2017-10-22T00:22:13 < Thorn> i2s*
2017-10-22T00:22:27 < Laurenceb_>  -> with leads
2017-10-22T00:22:34 < Laurenceb_> haxor a discovery board?
2017-10-22T00:22:58 < Laurenceb_> > tfw MGTOW is for the best
2017-10-22T00:25:14 < Laurenceb_> muh b&width is saturated with java warez
2017-10-22T00:34:00 < sync> well, he is british
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2017-10-22T00:48:41 < Thorn> https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/TLV320AIC3204IRHBR_C24109.pdf looks good and cheap but qfn
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2017-10-22T00:54:23 < DelvingDeeper> I keep getting a weird error in attolic. anyone ever see this:/
2017-10-22T00:54:26 < DelvingDeeper> [0...9999]	Error: Multiple errors reported.\ Failed to execute MI command: -var-create - * *((aFull_Buffer)+0)@10000 Error message from debugger back end: Can't take address of "aFull_Buffer" which isn't an lvalue.\ Unable to create variable object	
2017-10-22T00:54:43 < DelvingDeeper> Just trying to create a integer array
2017-10-22T00:55:42 < PaulFertser> That looks like you probably have a "watch" configured for a symbol that's not present in your firmware.
2017-10-22T00:57:19 < DelvingDeeper> Yeah I'm trying to watch it the array during debug. What do you mean by not being present in my firmware ?
2017-10-22T00:58:27 < PaulFertser> That you do not have an array called aFull_Buffer
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2017-10-22T00:59:26 < DelvingDeeper> Oh i do, I pretty much highlighted it and clicked watch. Also rechecked the wording. Not sure whats going on
2017-10-22T01:05:25 < PaulFertser> You can try running without that watch, then set a breakpoint at some sensible place, then after it stops on breakpoint add the watch back.
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2017-10-22T01:12:09 < DelvingDeeper> Yeah, I still get the same error. Something isn't making sense
2017-10-22T01:12:32 < Steffanx> LL is part of HAL, R2COM
2017-10-22T01:13:19 < fenugrec> DelvingDeeper  ' "aFull_Buffer" which isn't an lvalue ', sounds like a bad sign... how are you declaring it
2017-10-22T01:13:54 < DelvingDeeper> static uint8_t aFull_Buffer[MAX_FRAME_SIZE] = {0};
2017-10-22T01:14:28 < DelvingDeeper> in the header
2017-10-22T01:14:29 < DelvingDeeper> #define MAX_FRAME_SIZE    55010
2017-10-22T01:14:50 < fenugrec> yeah I guess if it compiles fine it should be ok
2017-10-22T01:16:07 < fenugrec> unless somehow it gets optimized out due to linker options. Can you find it in the .map file
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2017-10-22T01:22:50 < DelvingDeeper> Yep this is weird its not in the .map file...:/ not really sure what to do. first time I've hit this error. Is there a common fix or should I start a google investigation
2017-10-22T01:23:07 < DelvingDeeper> Also how to you tag someone on here when writing a message
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2017-10-22T01:24:04 < fenugrec> DelvingDeeper ifthe array is unreferenced by code anywhere the compiler can take it out depending on options
2017-10-22T01:26:17 < DelvingDeeper> Ok I'll need to look into this. thanks for the help. now I have an idea of where to look
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2017-10-22T02:20:33 < Thorn> I've been told that you should not touch the lens on ws2812 or bonding wires can break. can anyone confirm
2017-10-22T02:24:17 < zyp> that sounds like super bullshit
2017-10-22T02:24:43 < zyp> where do you think P&P machines grab them?
2017-10-22T02:25:35 < zyp> if a P&P can push it onto a PCB by the lens, casual fondling should be perfectly fine
2017-10-22T02:29:29 < Thorn> but it doesn't actually press parts into the pcb, does it
2017-10-22T02:29:48 < zyp> sure it does
2017-10-22T02:30:26 < zyp> parts need to be pushed into the paste with some force to stick there until reflow
2017-10-22T02:32:23 < Thorn> hmok
2017-10-22T02:34:19 < zyp> besides, I figure a P&P doesn't just release the part at a given height, I assume it's pushing until it hits a given force
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2017-10-22T02:41:19 < branjb> anyone used the lsm9ds1 IMU?
2017-10-22T02:53:01 < Laurenceb_> yes
2017-10-22T02:53:15 < Laurenceb_> pita to solder but works well once soldered
2017-10-22T02:54:49 < branjb> did you write the drivers for it?
2017-10-22T02:54:56 < Laurenceb_> yes, check my github
2017-10-22T02:54:59 < Laurenceb_> equine
2017-10-22T02:56:16 < branjb> equine doesn’t have any public repositories yet.
2017-10-22T02:56:18 < branjb> rip
2017-10-22T02:57:16 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/Equine/blob/master/Sensors/lsm9ds1.c
2017-10-22T02:58:06 < branjb> sexy
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2017-10-22T03:09:24 < kikes> is there such system I could use to device some shitty codez inside embedded solution to keep the system running even when parts of it go bad?
2017-10-22T03:09:34 < kikes> then just reinitialize them parts seperatelly
2017-10-22T03:11:26 < kikes> instead of making the system "flawless" I could focus on making the core of the system be "flawless"
2017-10-22T03:12:16 < Thorn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_modular_redundancy ?
2017-10-22T03:12:51 < kikes> I'm not talking about redundancy
2017-10-22T03:12:55 < kikes> but modularity
2017-10-22T03:13:10 < kikes> one module goes shit -> recovery
2017-10-22T03:16:29 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/8r8YGpC.gifv
2017-10-22T03:16:34 < zyp> kikes, MPU
2017-10-22T03:17:30 < kikes> how to implement such system?
2017-10-22T03:17:43 < dongs> ask O_6
2017-10-22T03:17:43 < zyp> kikes, MPU
2017-10-22T03:18:01 < kikes> so you have domains for modules
2017-10-22T03:18:23 < kikes> something to inspect if everything is okay
2017-10-22T03:18:41 < kikes> then flush it and reinitialize?
2017-10-22T03:19:21 < zyp> a MPU-aware RTOS would use the MPU to isolate tasks
2017-10-22T03:19:29 < zyp> and could kill and restart misbehaving tasks
2017-10-22T03:19:30 < kikes> yes
2017-10-22T03:19:45 < kikes> okay how about when there is no MPU?
2017-10-22T03:19:48 < kikes> there is no way?
2017-10-22T03:20:02 < zyp> then you're using the wrong chip for the purpose
2017-10-22T03:20:06 < zyp> most stm32 got MPU
2017-10-22T03:20:47 < kikes> M3 doesn't have it does it?
2017-10-22T03:21:07 < kikes> okay it's optional
2017-10-22T03:22:02 < kikes> oh my chips have MPU actually
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2017-10-22T03:22:39 < kikes> sweet
2017-10-22T03:22:47 < kikes> better start learning RTOS
2017-10-22T03:23:29 < dongs> wat.
2017-10-22T03:23:42 < kikes> I have it in plans anyways
2017-10-22T03:37:59 < Thorn> what is going on here https://youtu.be/DJO8eeizGVo?t=2m37s
2017-10-22T03:39:06 < Thorn> it seems the leds are not yet soldered
2017-10-22T03:40:14 < branjb> is there a c function similar to sizeof(buffer) that will give me the size of up until \0?
2017-10-22T03:40:26 < Thorn> strlen
2017-10-22T03:40:30 < branjb> ...
2017-10-22T03:40:32 < branjb> i'm retarded
2017-10-22T03:45:51 < kikes> interesting
2017-10-22T03:46:16 < kikes> branjb, how many years of C?
2017-10-22T03:46:41 < branjb> 7ish, but also 3 or 4 beers
2017-10-22T03:46:57 < kikes> okay
2017-10-22T03:47:13 < dongs> Thorn: what the hell is going on there
2017-10-22T03:48:44 < dongs> damn some hardcore chinking going on there
2017-10-22T03:48:46 < Thorn> manufacturing
2017-10-22T03:48:50 < dongs> yeah but
2017-10-22T03:48:51 < dongs> what is he testing
2017-10-22T03:49:03 < Thorn> that was my q
2017-10-22T03:49:24 < Thorn> according to video description, finding reverse polarity leds or something
2017-10-22T03:49:30 < dongs> aha
2017-10-22T03:49:43 < Thorn> but he's not turning them 180 deg and placing back, just touching
2017-10-22T03:49:53 < dongs> maybe he is
2017-10-22T03:49:58 < dongs> just so fast you cant see it
2017-10-22T03:50:10 < Thorn> years of experience?
2017-10-22T03:50:13 < dongs> right
2017-10-22T03:52:04 < Thorn> and a girl is reworking smd right after it comes out of the reflow oven
2017-10-22T03:52:07 < branjb> reading the raw data from an accelerometer at rest, does this make any sense: https://imgur.com/a/qiQ1g
2017-10-22T03:52:22 < dongs> no
2017-10-22T03:52:35 < dongs> obviosuly you're fucking up signed/unsigned stuff somewehre or maybe byte order
2017-10-22T03:53:29 < branjb> should be reading 0 0 0
2017-10-22T03:53:30 < branjb> in theory
2017-10-22T03:53:31 < branjb> right
2017-10-22T03:53:33 < dongs> no
2017-10-22T03:53:38 < branjb> oh
2017-10-22T03:53:39 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-22T03:53:41 < branjb> gravity
2017-10-22T03:53:42 < dongs> Z should be wahtever your max measurement bits are
2017-10-22T03:53:49 < dongs> or minus of that or whatever
2017-10-22T03:53:59 < enh> branjb: You need to apply the scale factor
2017-10-22T03:53:59 < dongs> er , not max measurement bits b ut wahtever is == 1g
2017-10-22T03:54:04 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-22T03:54:13 < dongs> assumiung its flat on teh desk
2017-10-22T03:54:20 < branjb> acc at rest shows gravity down
2017-10-22T03:54:24 < branjb> anyway
2017-10-22T03:54:38 < enh> it must show -g at z
2017-10-22T03:55:07 < branjb> fucking up the conversion then because x and y change when i move it around but z is constant
2017-10-22T03:55:09 < enh> there is a scale factor that needs to be multiplied by the data
2017-10-22T03:55:27 < dongs> thats only if you want stuff in gs
2017-10-22T03:55:35 < dongs> you can still look at raw data and see if shit is wrong
2017-10-22T03:55:43 < dongs> branjb: i'd check make sure youre starting read from correct address
2017-10-22T03:55:45 < enh> or if you wanto to check your result
2017-10-22T03:55:50 < dongs> x/y/z is usually in seqence
2017-10-22T03:56:02 < dongs> and if byte order is lsb./msb first etc
2017-10-22T03:56:07 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-22T03:56:16 < branjb> considering i ripped my register file off of an arduino library
2017-10-22T03:56:17 < branjb> haha
2017-10-22T03:56:21 < dongs> lo'
2017-10-22T03:56:30 < enh> turn 90 degrees and the biggest abs number must change to another axis
2017-10-22T03:56:39 < branjb> enh that part checks out
2017-10-22T03:56:53 < enh> then ok
2017-10-22T03:57:04 < branjb> prob reading from wrong address because z is constant 0x08 0x00
2017-10-22T03:57:16 < enh> which accel?
2017-10-22T03:57:19 < branjb> but x and why swap signs when tilting around
2017-10-22T03:57:32 < branjb> lsm9ds1
2017-10-22T03:57:36 < enh> dunno
2017-10-22T03:57:43 < enh> i use lis331
2017-10-22T03:59:21 < enh> https://imgur.com/a/Lf4x8
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2017-10-22T04:00:26 < branjb> ah fuck me
2017-10-22T04:00:41 < branjb> lsm9ds1 has a diff i2c address for accel/gyro and mag
2017-10-22T04:00:47 < dongs> yeah, that shit is gross
2017-10-22T04:00:48 < branjb> was reading from the mag not acc
2017-10-22T04:00:53 < dongs> i hate those dumb multi-package shits from ST
2017-10-22T04:01:16 < dongs> on some SPI devices tehy even give completely separate SPI channels for the stuff inside
2017-10-22T04:01:35 < enh> i use a device for each sensor
2017-10-22T04:01:57 < enh> lis331, l3g4xxx and hmc5883l
2017-10-22T04:02:16 < branjb> idk why I keep using ST stuff
2017-10-22T04:02:16 < enh> ols stuff
2017-10-22T04:02:19 < enh> old
2017-10-22T04:03:10 < enh> it is good to have many sensors in one package. You can have many packages and use redundance
2017-10-22T04:03:33 < branjb> i just don't get why the register space for the mag is separate from acc/gyro
2017-10-22T04:03:53 < enh> just use an offset
2017-10-22T04:04:04 < enh> simple fix
2017-10-22T04:06:28 < dongs> branjb: beacuse it is literally 2 separate dies in there
2017-10-22T04:09:10 < Laurenceb_> its literally FR4 carrier with tons of shit wire bonded to the top then encapsulated
2017-10-22T04:09:23 < dongs> depends on package but yeah, something like that
2017-10-22T04:09:46 < Laurenceb_> https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/sofxX4ltBg6wbTyO.medium
2017-10-22T04:09:58 < branjb> ahh
2017-10-22T04:10:17 < dongs> niice
2017-10-22T04:10:38 < Laurenceb_> https://www.automatyka.pl/MainLibrary/58x800x600x57817x0/bosch-angazuje-sie-w-przemysl-mems.jpeg
2017-10-22T04:25:02 < enh> 2mmx3mm
2017-10-22T04:25:11 < enh> nice picture
2017-10-22T04:25:41 < enh> 40um gold wires
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2017-10-22T04:28:07 < kikes> should sleep
2017-10-22T04:31:28 < enh> me too
2017-10-22T04:36:28 < Laurenceb_> http://www.memsjournal.com/2010/12/motion-sensing-in-the-iphone-4-mems-accelerometer.html
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2017-10-22T04:53:36 < Thorn> found a cortex-m with 448KB RAM (and wifi) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1PC-NL6621-module-NL6621-Y1-2-4G-Uart-Serial-Wi-Fi-Wireless-Transceiver-Module-for-Arduino/32642036264.html
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2017-10-22T04:57:33 < ohsix> AvE video trashing chinese relays still got 2.5m cycles out of them
2017-10-22T04:58:46 < upgrdman> ohsix, it didnt look like he was loading the relays very hard
2017-10-22T04:59:05 < upgrdman> a little inductance on the load will wear out relays much quicker
2017-10-22T05:00:11 < upgrdman> also that was 2.5m until it was intermittent. when did the resistance go up though? that's what matters for real world products. just because you have contact doesnt means its acceptable
2017-10-22T05:00:33 < dongs> Thorn: M3 @ 160MHz?
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2017-10-22T05:02:31 < Thorn> I'm also not sure if it has any onboard flash
2017-10-22T05:02:36 < dongs> it doesnt
2017-10-22T05:02:44 < dongs> http://www.haoyuelectronics.com/Attachment/NL6621-Y1/NL6621M_Product_Datasheet_Ch_V1.2(%B6%D4%CD%E2).pdf
2017-10-22T05:03:30 < ohsix> sync
2017-10-22T05:03:35 < Thorn> >TCP/IP, UPD, HTTP
2017-10-22T05:03:36 < dongs> are you sure its cortexm?
2017-10-22T05:03:45 < ohsix> upgrdman: yea he just had those big resistors on them
2017-10-22T05:03:50 < Thorn> hackaday says it is
2017-10-22T05:04:08 < ohsix> upgrdman: the fail was the contact resistance going up
2017-10-22T05:04:39 < upgrdman> ohsix, ya exactly. not an inductive load. and when did he stop, at 90% of initial c.r.?
2017-10-22T05:05:18 < dongs> which cortex-m has full jtag
2017-10-22T05:05:20 < dongs> as opposed to swd
2017-10-22T05:05:47 < ohsix> there are other choices you'd make if you knew the load was inductive, even just a special snubber network
2017-10-22T05:06:02 < Thorn> 3 and 4
2017-10-22T05:06:20 < Thorn> anything that is not 0
2017-10-22T05:06:28 < Thorn> not sure about 0+
2017-10-22T05:06:55 < upgrdman> ohsix, every load has some inductance. even if its a resistive load, it's probably going through meters of wire before getting to the relay. and yes snubbers help, but still, his testing seemed pretty half-assed, but thats ok since he's not an EE channel
2017-10-22T05:07:25 < ohsix> heh
2017-10-22T05:07:41 < ohsix> you don't really need to even test it, just know what the surface treatment is
2017-10-22T05:07:57 < upgrdman> china. china is the surface treatment.
2017-10-22T05:08:10 < ohsix> the problem with 'china', is in when you get a given relay you don't know if it is the same as the one you were using
2017-10-22T05:08:28 < ohsix> china has access to every kind of electrodeposition and other shit they put on the contacts
2017-10-22T05:09:29 < ohsix> it's a bullshit test, but still, compared to peoples expectations (10000 cycles?) it is enough to recalibrate against
2017-10-22T05:13:08 < upgrdman> Laurenceb, whats the mems die cap for? just to keep the epoxy out of the moving shitz? or is it also a faraday cage?
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2017-10-22T05:16:10 < ohsix> if someone wants toa ctually test the contact material in an abusive and shitty way, you can hook the nc connection in series with a battery and the coil
2017-10-22T05:16:25 < ohsix> it'll oscillate @ khz and without a snubber breaks quick
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2017-10-22T05:19:34 < tpw_rules> don't touch it :P
2017-10-22T05:19:45 < tpw_rules> you can get pretty nice tingles that way
2017-10-22T05:20:34 < dongs> autism in chats detected
2017-10-22T05:21:31 < tpw_rules> there was a point when it wasn't
2017-10-22T05:21:37 < tpw_rules> ?
2017-10-22T05:21:51 < upgrdman> the threshold trigged dongs
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2017-10-22T05:22:12 < upgrdman> he's like an autism schmitt trigger
2017-10-22T05:22:23 < tpw_rules> i repeat: he turned off?
2017-10-22T05:31:27 < ohsix> yea that's the reason i was doing it
2017-10-22T05:31:36 < ohsix> to make shock-y things
2017-10-22T05:38:33 < ohsix> heh there's no standard or agreed upon iconography for rfid shit
2017-10-22T05:38:35 < ohsix> http://www.elasticspace.com/presentations/graphic_language_touch_rfid_nfc.pdf
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2017-10-22T07:01:29 < ColdKeyboard> How do you specify which AF pins you are going to use in HAL?
2017-10-22T07:02:27 < ColdKeyboard> https://pastebin.com/tVa7E1rN
2017-10-22T07:02:39 < ColdKeyboard> I get nothing on PA2 and PA3
2017-10-22T07:02:53 < ColdKeyboard> Also I have __HAL_RCC_GPIOA_CLK_ENABLE();
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2017-10-22T07:06:58 < dongs> you are supposed to use gaycube to generate that shit
2017-10-22T07:08:09 < ColdKeyboard> Even one with gaycube is not working
2017-10-22T07:08:12 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone using HAL here?
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2017-10-22T07:18:01 < dongs> it is
2017-10-22T07:18:05 < dongs> your code is NOT seting AF
2017-10-22T07:19:35 < dongs> also, looks like its .Alternate in gpio nit struct
2017-10-22T07:19:41 < dongs>   GPIO_InitStruct.Alternate = GPIO_AF0_MCO;
2017-10-22T07:19:42 < dongs> etc
2017-10-22T07:19:56 < dongs> or a number for the chip ST didn't bother making AF mappings for
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2017-10-22T07:59:46 < dongs> donging
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2017-10-22T08:58:08 < ColdKeyboard> GPIO_InitTypeDef has no member named 'Alternate'
2017-10-22T08:58:22 < ColdKeyboard> How the hell do I tell F3 which pins I want to use for UART1?
2017-10-22T08:58:42 < ColdKeyboard> It seems like everything is initialized but there is nothing on PA9 and PA10
2017-10-22T08:58:47 < ColdKeyboard> STM32F103 btw
2017-10-22T08:58:57 < ColdKeyboard> Nucleo board to be more precise
2017-10-22T09:04:13 < dongs> oh 103
2017-10-22T09:04:18 < dongs> there's no AF on 103 you faggot
2017-10-22T09:04:28 < dongs> just turning on a peripheral on those pins works
2017-10-22T09:07:24 < ColdKeyboard> So does this look alright -> https://pastebin.com/XptYKz3p
2017-10-22T09:20:36 < dongs> more or less yea
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2017-10-22T09:26:18 < ColdKeyboard> It's not sending jack over usart
2017-10-22T09:26:31 < ColdKeyboard> It sucks...
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2017-10-22T09:31:23 < c4017_> Shouldn't the USART clock be enable before init?
2017-10-22T09:31:50 < c4017_> How did it even init without hardfaulting with the clock off?
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2017-10-22T09:33:23 < dongs> why would it hardfault
2017-10-22T09:33:28 < dongs> if you init before turning on clock, it just does nothing
2017-10-22T09:33:33 < dongs> writes to clocked off peripherals do nothing
2017-10-22T09:33:59 < c4017_> Oh. I'm confusing with NXP chips then
2017-10-22T09:34:02 < dongs> mac faggotS: how the motherfuck do I see how much space is free on a mac drive
2017-10-22T09:35:38 < dongs> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
2017-10-22T09:35:54 < dongs> what teh fuck are you talking about
2017-10-22T09:36:05 < dongs> 'execute'? w a t?
2017-10-22T09:36:11 < dongs> i asked what the fuck do i click to see free space
2017-10-22T09:36:15 < dongs> on macintosh hd
2017-10-22T09:36:20 < dongs> i dont wanna type anything
2017-10-22T09:38:56 < dongs> so teh answer is you dont know?
2017-10-22T09:39:50 < dongs> i just typed that into finder and nothing happened
2017-10-22T09:40:01 < dongs> ter...what?
2017-10-22T09:40:07 < dongs> i said mac, not lunix you god damn faggot
2017-10-22T09:41:02 < ColdKeyboard> So now USART works, but after first transfer it stops (hard fault it seems)
2017-10-22T09:41:37 < dongs> http://www.macinstruct.com/node/414
2017-10-22T09:41:46 < dongs> you people are beyond worthless
2017-10-22T09:41:50 < dongs> when it comes to tech tips
2017-10-22T09:41:53 < dongs> i had to google that shit myself
2017-10-22T09:42:36 < dongs> 'other' = steve's globally distributed gay porn stash
2017-10-22T09:43:50 < dongs> haha @ md5 hash suggestion
2017-10-22T09:44:40 < dongs> Kevin • 4 years ago
2017-10-22T09:44:40 < dongs> My entire hard drive is made of other. How do I figure out what that other is?
2017-10-22T09:44:43 < dongs> haha
2017-10-22T09:48:06 < c4017_> dongs www.derlien.com
2017-10-22T09:48:23 < c4017_> way better than any integrated mac shit
2017-10-22T09:49:01 < dongs> yeah , i use windirstat
2017-10-22T09:49:21 < dongs> i dont give a shit about seeing how much space macos uses, i just wanted to make sure i had enough free to update macfag so i can get new bootcamp and install latest windows creator update
2017-10-22T09:49:27 < dongs> my mac partition is like 30gb
2017-10-22T09:49:55 < dongs> absolutely worthless OS
2017-10-22T09:50:03 < dongs> i cannot imagine how anyone can use this shit seriosuly
2017-10-22T09:50:11 < dongs> click click click everywhere liek a fucking faggot
2017-10-22T09:53:37 < branjb> anyone used madgwick algorithm and ended up with 3 unchanging constants for x y z?
2017-10-22T09:53:56 < branjb> err
2017-10-22T09:54:00 < branjb> for pitch/roll/yaw
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2017-10-22T10:10:56 < dongs> no, youre doing it wrong
2017-10-22T10:11:09 < dongs> probly c uz you copypasted imu shit from retarduino
2017-10-22T10:11:18 < dongs> amirite? AMIRITE?
2017-10-22T10:12:02 < branjb> i actually spent the entire night rewriting shit from the ds
2017-10-22T10:12:22 < branjb> because retarduino library has functions and contingies and switches for every damn configuration you would never care to use
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2017-10-22T10:13:17 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/dxtDk
2017-10-22T10:14:28 < branjb> the mag readings look kind of weird to me
2017-10-22T10:15:51 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/U0iADj9.gifv
2017-10-22T10:23:37 < ReadErr> hello ladies
2017-10-22T10:33:03 < qyx> branjb: yes in the past few years ago
2017-10-22T10:33:37 < qyx> iirc there is a "gimbal lock" or how is it called
2017-10-22T10:34:53 < dongs> yeah but that doesnt happen if your shit isnt moving at all
2017-10-22T10:36:19 < qyx> but it was resokved using those 4-something ibstead of a simple matrix multiplication
2017-10-22T10:47:40 < ohsix> quaternion
2017-10-22T10:48:36 < ohsix> it is excusable to try and use the euler angles when you don't know why you can't ;]
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2017-10-22T11:35:10 < qyx> I tried and failed
2017-10-22T11:45:54 < Steffanx> Hello Welcome.
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2017-10-22T11:51:56 < dongs> < Steffanx> Hello Welcome.
2017-10-22T11:52:01 < dongs> them be pumping words
2017-10-22T11:53:27 < Steffanx> Hah yes, its because your mate joined dongs
2017-10-22T11:53:48 < Steffanx> Crt is a very decent guy. Just has his quirks. But hey, so do you
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2017-10-22T12:00:16  * jadew is learning python
2017-10-22T12:00:58 < dongs> i mean, everything judew has done so far has ben a waqste of time. python 'learning' is just icing on teh cake of failure
2017-10-22T12:01:07 < jadew> haha
2017-10-22T12:01:24 < jadew> I need it in order to get kicad to do stuff
2017-10-22T12:01:46 < jadew> it can't do a lot of things, but you can manipulate the board in python
2017-10-22T12:02:04 < jadew> which means I can add some of the features it's missing
2017-10-22T12:02:06 < jadew> *its
2017-10-22T12:02:09 < jadew> no, it's
2017-10-22T12:02:23 < jadew> superbia, eh... I don't like the fact that spaces are part of the syntax
2017-10-22T12:02:48 < jadew> but otherwise it seems like an ok scripting language
2017-10-22T12:02:56 < jadew> right
2017-10-22T12:03:08 < jadew> like spaces are what makes good code :)
2017-10-22T12:07:41 < dongs> < superbia> it's forcing people to write good code
2017-10-22T12:07:48 < dongs> you must be fucking trolling
2017-10-22T12:07:52 < dongs> python code is unmaintainable garbage
2017-10-22T12:07:56 < dongs> write once, read never
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2017-10-22T12:10:37 < dongs> fucking shiteater
2017-10-22T12:12:10 < Steffanx> Dongs do you suffer from dementia?
2017-10-22T12:12:22 < Steffanx> You keep repeating yourself
2017-10-22T12:12:42 < jadew> ok, I've learned python
2017-10-22T12:12:59 < jadew> took me 20 minutes
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2017-10-22T12:13:23 < jadew> it has some interesting features
2017-10-22T12:13:42 < jadew> live slices of arrays and multiple assignment
2017-10-22T12:13:52 < jadew> for example arr = [1, 2, 3]
2017-10-22T12:14:19 < jadew> then you can do arr[0:2] = [5, 6, 7] and it will end up as [5, 6, 7, 3]
2017-10-22T12:14:33 < jadew> they already know that stuff
2017-10-22T12:15:02 < jadew> how's that bad?
2017-10-22T12:15:49 < dongs> it looks unreadable faggotry is why
2017-10-22T12:15:51 < dongs> but yeah hes right
2017-10-22T12:15:56 < dongs> take that shit straight to #fuckoff
2017-10-22T12:16:02 < dongs> im sure nobody except zyp in here cares
2017-10-22T12:16:04 < PaulFertser> jadew: the most interesting feature of python is runtime errors your users will get out of the blue ;)
2017-10-22T12:16:30 < jadew> PaulFertser, you don't have to sell me on not liking python
2017-10-22T12:16:42 < jadew> I'm just trying to make the best out of a bad situation
2017-10-22T12:16:51 < dongs> jadew: arent you a student?
2017-10-22T12:16:54 < jadew> no
2017-10-22T12:16:57 < dongs> become one
2017-10-22T12:17:01 < dongs> then get 100eur altium license.
2017-10-22T12:17:06 < dongs> and stop wasteing time with kikecad
2017-10-22T12:17:18 < jadew> is it really 100 eur?
2017-10-22T12:17:20 < jadew> cuz I can do that
2017-10-22T12:17:22 < dongs> yes
2017-10-22T12:17:36 < Steffanx> You wish
2017-10-22T12:17:48 < PaulFertser> Seriously speaking, if you just can't afford writing in modern complex statically typed language and decide to go the dynamic typing route, what can be better than python3?
2017-10-22T12:18:13 < dongs> C
2017-10-22T12:21:07 < PaulFertser> dongs: you didn't read the question did you
2017-10-22T12:21:59 < Steffanx> Stop being so recalcitrant.
2017-10-22T12:22:00 < dongs> PaulFertser: i skipped over words i dont know
2017-10-22T12:22:12 < dongs> such as complex statically typed
2017-10-22T12:22:18 < dongs> and d ynamic typing route
2017-10-22T12:22:23 < dongs> and just answered the only obvious choice
2017-10-22T12:22:24 < PaulFertser> I guessed so
2017-10-22T12:22:27 < dongs> when youre writing somethign
2017-10-22T12:24:10 < jadew> the thing is that scripting languages were never meant to be too complex, because they had to be light (so they were easy to ship with the program you were scripting)
2017-10-22T12:24:16 < jadew> that's why they all suck
2017-10-22T12:24:45 < dongs> haha
2017-10-22T12:24:45 < jadew> dynamic languages that were never meant for scripting and they still suck are just fail languages tho
2017-10-22T12:24:51 < dongs> tell that to fagpython runtiume
2017-10-22T12:24:54 < dongs> taking up > 1gb
2017-10-22T12:25:17 < jadew> didn't look into that, but if that's the case, yeah, that's silly
2017-10-22T12:25:28 < jadew> I'd prefer JS for scripting TBH
2017-10-22T12:26:10 < jadew> the syntax is closer to C and if you really have to, you can still build complex stuff with it
2017-10-22T12:28:33 < PaulFertser> Oh, I thought JS is one of the most strangest language, with "surprising" closure capturing rules, sudden implicit type conversions and all that. Really baroque.
2017-10-22T12:31:03 < PaulFertser> dongs: I wonder what programs (not counting "firmware") that you're using often are written in C?
2017-10-22T12:32:55 < jadew> most stuff that we use often is written in C++
2017-10-22T12:38:16 < Steffanx> C# because windows is tha bomb.
2017-10-22T12:39:47 < jadew> I think C# is used mainly by businesses with large pockets
2017-10-22T12:40:03 < Steffanx> Not really..
2017-10-22T12:40:14 < jadew> that can afford windows servers and all that comes with them
2017-10-22T12:40:32 < jadew> I'm sure it's used on other stuff too, but that's where it sees the most use
2017-10-22T12:40:32 < Steffanx> I get the same "feeling" with java
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2017-10-22T12:57:43 < jadew> we're all C men
2017-10-22T13:15:32 < munki_> C
2017-10-22T13:16:09 < PaulFertser> MISRA C
2017-10-22T13:17:48 < Steffanx> lolno.
2017-10-22T13:18:33 < Steffanx> Try vb.
2017-10-22T13:18:41 < Steffanx> or delphi
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2017-10-22T13:20:30 < munki_> how to learn to make computer program
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2017-10-22T13:22:13 < munki_> i want make facebook clone but better
2017-10-22T13:22:29 < munki_> can u do in visual foxpro?
2017-10-22T13:22:53 < dongs> unfunny troll is unfunny
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2017-10-22T13:23:40 < dongs> innovating like crazy
2017-10-22T13:25:08 < Steffanx> More like a autobiography?
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2017-10-22T13:27:43 < Steffanx> Uhm, like those DJ hipsters will read the docs
2017-10-22T13:27:45 < dongs> is documentation: do not plug in AC into XLR sockets
2017-10-22T13:27:46 < Steffanx> Waste of time crt
2017-10-22T13:28:09 < dongs> so real keiling
2017-10-22T13:28:23 < Steffanx> Hah ok. I just heard this dutch DJ got DJ of the year again. Says enough about DJ hipsters.
2017-10-22T13:30:15 < Steffanx> Im proud of you.
2017-10-22T13:30:43 < dongs> https://cseit.umn.edu/knowledge-help/get-altium-license heh
2017-10-22T13:32:02 < Steffanx> I needed a "legit" windows license once. So i googled for dreamspark login credentials. Worked like a charm.
2017-10-22T13:32:47 < Steffanx> Stupid unis that upload pdfs  with user credentials for their network that also work on dream spark
2017-10-22T13:32:48 < jadew> eh, the problem is not getting altium to work, the problem is using it legally
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2017-10-22T13:33:41 < jadew> that's the problem
2017-10-22T13:34:10 < dongs> * over 9000 AUD
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2017-10-22T14:37:06 < dongs> i guess windows lasted about 3 weeks without dells crashing it
2017-10-22T14:37:17 < dongs> finally walked up to the desk to find both panels in sleep mode
2017-10-22T14:37:21 < dongs> and not waking up
2017-10-22T14:39:44 < Steffanx> awh
2017-10-22T14:46:53 < Steffanx>  jaw-dropping resolution .. thet failed
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2017-10-22T14:51:45 < dongs> aha
2017-10-22T14:51:47 < dongs> what is that shit
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2017-10-22T14:53:55 < dongs> haahahah look at preloaded lunix choices list
2017-10-22T14:53:58 < dongs> its like 30 things in there
2017-10-22T14:55:18 < dongs> and none of them wokr!
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2017-10-22T14:58:18 < Laurenceb_> what the actual fuck http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-41697213/a-bus-designed-to-tackle-sexual-harassment
2017-10-22T14:58:26 < Laurenceb_> wonder if its arduino powered
2017-10-22T14:59:18 < Steffanx> i feel offended by that sign. It looks like only people in dresses get harrassed by people not in dresses
2017-10-22T14:59:49 < Steffanx> And only happens to black/with black people, such racism
2017-10-22T15:00:42 < Laurenceb_> top kek
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2017-10-22T15:01:16 < Laurenceb_> I liek how they give 0 useful info in the video
2017-10-22T15:01:46 < Laurenceb_> they could at least tell us what the team of losers thought up, rather than how they felt about their weird inventions
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2017-10-22T15:12:40 < jpa-> i once tried to speak up when i saw a drunk dude harassing a young woman
2017-10-22T15:13:01 < jpa-> but turns out he was mentally disabled and she was his relative
2017-10-22T15:13:13 < jpa-> => never again
2017-10-22T15:13:47 < Steffanx> Do you now say a mentally disabled man is allowed to harrass his relative?
2017-10-22T15:14:56 < jpa-> yes.. as far as slurrily talking weird things and trying to pull off her bag is concerned
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2017-10-22T15:16:33 < jadew> Laurenceb_, they don't because it's stupid
2017-10-22T15:17:26 < jadew> also, I don't know what kind of people live in the UK, but in here we don't have a harassment issue and we're considered less civilized
2017-10-22T15:18:18 < jadew> we don't have an obesity issue either
2017-10-22T15:18:31 < jadew> romanians are thin and good looking
2017-10-22T15:19:00 < jadew> most of them have left the country
2017-10-22T15:19:18 < Steffanx> Do you have an immigrant issue jadew?
2017-10-22T15:19:25 < jadew> Steffanx, no
2017-10-22T15:19:39 < Steffanx> im probably not allowed to say it, but those 2 might be related.
2017-10-22T15:20:14 < jadew> Steffanx, it's possible, yeah
2017-10-22T15:20:15 < Steffanx> and maybe you guys arent feminist enough yet, you're woman aren't allowed to complain yet :P
2017-10-22T15:20:37 < Steffanx> *your
2017-10-22T15:20:58 < jadew> they have nothing to complain about
2017-10-22T15:21:22 < Steffanx> Not yet.
2017-10-22T15:21:22 < jadew> but yeah, there aren't many feminists in here (I haven't met any)
2017-10-22T15:21:33 < Laurenceb_> https://8ch.net/file_store/7a4f34155a2ee4ff0c06777d136f399136df6d0a2456e07f371e690f2a8e5183.png
2017-10-22T15:21:39 < Laurenceb_> we memeworld now
2017-10-22T15:22:38 < Steffanx> Do female in romania complain when they are magazines with child toys, where a boy plans with boy-toys and a girl plays with princess stuff, jadew?
2017-10-22T15:22:52 < Steffanx> *there are
2017-10-22T15:22:53 < jadew> Steffanx, no
2017-10-22T15:23:01 < Steffanx> damnit, i need to read my sentences before i press enter.
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2017-10-22T15:23:14 < Steffanx> See, you guys didnt come to that (yet).
2017-10-22T15:24:56 < jadew> our women have no problem with the traditional roles - they also have no problem with beeing career women
2017-10-22T15:25:00 < jadew> but all men also pitch in
2017-10-22T15:25:43 < jadew> (the ones that I know at least)
2017-10-22T15:27:27 < Steffanx> so when the angle gets at 22.5° it moves back, probably a good explanation for that
2017-10-22T15:28:11 < Steffanx> whops
2017-10-22T15:28:13 < Steffanx> wrong channel
2017-10-22T15:28:35 < Steffanx> ya
2017-10-22T15:29:03 < Steffanx> Yeah, no one has to know what i do with Ranewen
2017-10-22T15:29:53 < jadew> ok, getting shit done with python seems a lot harder than I thought it would be
2017-10-22T15:30:39 < jadew> the API is automatically generated from the C++ classes and the parts I need are not generated properly I think
2017-10-22T15:31:15 < Steffanx> swig much?
2017-10-22T15:31:27 < jadew> yeah
2017-10-22T15:32:02 < jadew> I get a <Swig Object of type 'SHAPE_LINE_CHAIN *' at 0x000000000a400b70>
2017-10-22T15:32:17 < jadew> but I see no way of using that object
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2017-10-22T16:31:58 < Rob235> grr, got my image loader working but one image doesn't load and I don't know why
2017-10-22T16:33:05 < Steffanx> Your image loader is broken
2017-10-22T16:33:23 < Rob235> why would every other image load fine though
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2017-10-22T16:38:04 < Rob235> heh file is corrupt, photoshop wont open it either
2017-10-22T16:39:07 < Steffanx> lo
2017-10-22T16:39:08 < Steffanx> l
2017-10-22T16:39:31 < Rob235> all better
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2017-10-22T17:01:42 < DelvingDeeper> Losing my mind with timer s 0_o
2017-10-22T17:09:08 < DelvingDeeper> anyone ever try implementing app note an4666? parallel synchronous transmission via GPIO and DMA?
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2017-10-22T17:25:28 < englishman> 7:34 PM <zyp> besides, I figure a P&P doesn't just release the part at a given height, I assume it's pushing until it hits a given force
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2017-10-22T17:26:11 < englishman>  no clue about really high end stuff, but neither my nor dong machine does this, mine is precalibrated z offsets per part, dong has side vision to help out
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2017-10-22T17:32:25 < renn0xtk9> I am trying a helloworld (toggling a LED) but it is not working  with HAL_GPIO_TogglePin and HAL_Delay but somehow it does not work . Anybody has a clue ? this i smy code https://github.com/renn0xtek9/USB2I2C-STM32/blob/master/Src/main.c
2017-10-22T17:46:46 < tpw_rules> you haven't configured the pin as an output
2017-10-22T18:12:33 < DelvingDeeper> Need some help.. Can anyone tell me why the DMA is continuously called.. The appnote I'm using provides this alternate DMA handler. to allow the code to execute faster https://pastebin.com/bbJ9qt2M
2017-10-22T18:13:52 < DelvingDeeper> I've implemented the same, and when calling the normal handler provided by cube its called exactly once when triggered. Mine is continously called though.The only difference is that I cant set the state to half complete https://pastebin.com/m6jYr4DE
2017-10-22T18:14:30 < DelvingDeeper> I'm using stream 1 for Dma2 so Im using The LISR and LIFCR
2017-10-22T18:20:27 < DelvingDeeper> Wait, think I found the buf
2017-10-22T18:20:29 < DelvingDeeper> bug
2017-10-22T18:22:32 < DelvingDeeper> nope
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2017-10-22T19:07:58 < upgrdman> looks safe  https://i.imgur.com/68BHn03.gifv
2017-10-22T19:12:40 < branjb> upgrdman you done anything with madgwick?
2017-10-22T19:12:54 < upgrdman> branjb, yes
2017-10-22T19:13:09 < kaa> typical get things done
2017-10-22T19:13:18 < kaa> in gifv
2017-10-22T19:13:33 < upgrdman> branjb, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqQ3HZCI3nA
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2017-10-22T19:13:58 < branjb> did it work as implemented for you or did you have to mess with it a bunch?
2017-10-22T19:15:34 < upgrdman> worked pretty quickly
2017-10-22T19:15:52 < upgrdman> i just had to figure out how my x/y/z mapped to the algo's x/y/z
2017-10-22T19:17:44 < branjb> yeah that's what i'm probably not doing right
2017-10-22T19:17:45 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/dxtDk
2017-10-22T19:23:51 < branjb> I thought units didn't matter for madgwicks though because it's all normalized
2017-10-22T19:24:22 < Laurenceb_> http://img3.smackjeeves.com/images/uploaded/comics/p/o/6/po6gbgxq94IBI.jpg
2017-10-22T19:26:37 < upgrdman> branjb, iirc the accel is normalized to a unit vector, but the gyro readings need to be correct
2017-10-22T19:27:27 < branjb> yeah, gyro in radian per sec, right?
2017-10-22T19:28:57 < upgrdman> iirc yes
2017-10-22T19:29:14 < branjb> i'm watching your video
2017-10-22T19:29:17 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-22T19:30:04 < upgrdman> lol https://i.redd.it/pcrv78ecgetz.jpg
2017-10-22T19:30:20 < branjb> that's sweet
2017-10-22T19:33:28 < ColdKeyboard> After using HAL_Transmitt I clear flags but uart still doesn't transmitt after first succesfull transmitt. Am I missing something?
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2017-10-22T19:34:25 < branjb> how are you transmitting?
2017-10-22T19:34:45 < branjb> I have a single line in my main loop and don't do anything else
2017-10-22T19:34:46 < branjb> 	  HAL_UART_Transmit(&huart2, buffer, strlen(buffer), HAL_MAX_DELAY);
2017-10-22T19:35:04 < ColdKeyboard> https://pastebin.com/w6rLuDVd
2017-10-22T19:35:36 < ColdKeyboard> If I uncomment clearFlags() then it hardfaults
2017-10-22T19:36:16 < branjb> what fault handler does it go into?
2017-10-22T19:37:17 < ColdKeyboard> How can I check that without using IDE?
2017-10-22T19:37:50 < branjb> you using gdb?
2017-10-22T19:39:38 < ColdKeyboard> I have openocd and stlink for flashing
2017-10-22T19:39:47 < ColdKeyboard> Can you show an example how can I connect via GDB?
2017-10-22T19:41:11 < branjb> I don't know what the best way to set it up is, I'm using something called visualgdb but it's in an IDE
2017-10-22T19:41:52 < PaulFertser> ColdKeyboard: just run openocd, then "arm-none-eabi-gdb your.elf", type "tar ext :3333" in there, then proceed with debugging in gdb as usual.
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2017-10-22T19:47:59 < branjb> lol upgrdman
2017-10-22T19:48:08 < branjb> didn't realize there was an integration in madgwicks
2017-10-22T19:48:12 < branjb> wasn't keeping track of dt
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2017-10-22T19:59:20 < branjb> works now
2017-10-22T20:04:17 < Steffanx> you?
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2017-10-22T20:10:31 < upgrdman> branjb, cool
2017-10-22T20:13:19 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/8m40u
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2017-10-22T20:13:20 < upgrdman> time for new wiper blades on my car. is there any magical design that last >1yr?
2017-10-22T20:13:53 < branjb> what model car?
2017-10-22T20:14:30 < upgrdman> ya i know not to buy the cheapest.
2017-10-22T20:14:35 < upgrdman> i usually buy rainx
2017-10-22T20:14:44 < upgrdman> but theyre kinda pricy for yearly replacements
2017-10-22T20:15:09 < upgrdman> superbia, you must live in a super shit part of the usa. lol. never had anyone swap my wiper blades
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2017-10-22T20:15:25 < upgrdman> and i even live in an area with lots of black people
2017-10-22T20:19:17 < Steffanx> buy cheap one and replace them yearly?
2017-10-22T20:19:21 < Steffanx> It's not that it's hard.
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2017-10-22T20:39:44 < DelvingDeeper> Is there anywhere I can get a good overview of the timers registers? And maybe how they flow during operations like capture compare or output compare?
2017-10-22T20:42:07 < jpa-> reference manual? :P
2017-10-22T20:51:03 < upgrdman> R2COM, how's life going
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2017-10-22T21:04:49 < englishman> swapped out this shitty cypress part for an equivalent from .tw mfg at 1/10 price, works better and had better documentation
2017-10-22T21:04:56 < englishman> cypress is dead
2017-10-22T21:05:07 < DelvingDeeper> @jpa Sleep deprevation has broken my memory, completely forgot about it
2017-10-22T21:05:24 < DelvingDeeper> How do you tag someone in your message? :/
2017-10-22T21:05:33 < Steffanx> just say their name.
2017-10-22T21:05:41 < Steffanx> mr DelvingDeeper
2017-10-22T21:06:29 < DelvingDeeper> Steffanx
2017-10-22T21:06:34 < DelvingDeeper> Yay!
2017-10-22T21:07:07 < Steffanx> DelvingDeeper:  Most people have highlights enabled in their irc client, so they get a notification-ish message when your mention them
2017-10-22T21:07:17 < Steffanx> You must be new to the good old IRC
2017-10-22T21:07:58 < englishman> welcome
2017-10-22T21:08:21 < DelvingDeeper> Steffanx very new, but this is an amazing place. Have been looking for a livechat like this for a while.
2017-10-22T21:08:43 < Steffanx> DelvingDeeper: Better don't tell englishman you are a millenial
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2017-10-22T21:10:23 < DelvingDeeper> 24 too young for IRC? Even better if there's experienced embedded developers I can pry knowledge from! How long have you guys been working on embedded systems? about my 4th year now
2017-10-22T21:12:02 < englishman> Millennials are OK if we are unable to divine they are millennials
2017-10-22T21:12:39 < englishman> Steffanx: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2hrKNzx6/VID_20171022_134413.mp4
2017-10-22T21:13:45 < Steffanx> What's being harvested mr englishman? (And my neck hurts)
2017-10-22T21:14:01 < englishman> stm32 potatoes
2017-10-22T21:14:30 < Steffanx> Are you going for potato batteries?
2017-10-22T21:14:38 < DelvingDeeper> My stm32 potatoes are full of bugs, hopefully next harvest is better
2017-10-22T21:15:06 < englishman> they will recharge my moussaka
2017-10-22T21:15:42 < Steffanx> No hutspot englishman? Better make some hutspot.
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2017-10-22T21:16:36 < englishman> possibly
2017-10-22T21:18:28 < Steffanx> Ever tried it?
2017-10-22T21:18:41 < DelvingDeeper> R2COM what are you planning on doing?
2017-10-22T21:28:20 < Cracki> weird question
2017-10-22T21:33:30 < branjb> I've got a timer doing OC in toggle mode, GPIO pin is configured to AF timer.  interrupt for the OC match is firing.  on my scope pin is not toggling.  any ideas?
2017-10-22T21:33:55 < branjb> I have another tim/channel set up identically and it's working
2017-10-22T21:40:03 < DelvingDeeper> branjb Hmm..I always forget to start it? did you start the timer function?
2017-10-22T21:40:27 < branjb> yeah, it's started because I can see the interrupt firing for each output compare
2017-10-22T21:41:44 < DelvingDeeper> branjb Ah missed that in the question, its weird that the other one is working and this one isn't. Maybe someone with more knowledge can way in
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2017-10-22T21:54:07 < Steffanx> https://time.is/romania
2017-10-22T21:54:15 < Steffanx> lol
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2017-10-22T21:59:11 < DelvingDeeper> I'm a bit confused about the bitwise operators. I get that this DMAx->IFCR |= DMA_FLAG_HT ; is DMAx->IFCR = DMA_FLAG_HT  | DMAx->IFCR . But I can't see why they would be doing this? Shouldn't they just be resetting the IFCR to 0 after the transfer complete flag is called?
2017-10-22T22:00:16 < fenugrec> DelvingDeeper you do have the ref manual right ? check what is says about the IFCR register
2017-10-22T22:01:30 < DelvingDeeper> fenugrec busy rechecking it now. I must be missing something
2017-10-22T22:05:57 < fenugrec> for bonus points why would it still work if you had just  DMAx->IFCR = DMA_FLAG_HT instead of " |= "
2017-10-22T22:09:02 < DelvingDeeper> fenugrec: hmm...give me a bit, will answer as soon as I get this. running through the ref manual
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2017-10-22T22:16:08 < DelvingDeeper> Ok so far I've got that the DMA_FLAG_IT is contained within the IFCR.
2017-10-22T22:16:48 < DelvingDeeper> *HT
2017-10-22T22:17:27 < DelvingDeeper> and that the flag should be set when the transfer is complete
2017-10-22T22:18:43 < DelvingDeeper> fenugrec, so whether you "=|" it or set them directly equal to each other doesn't matter cause the IFCR contains the DMA_FLAG_HT?
2017-10-22T22:21:26 < fenugrec> not really
2017-10-22T22:21:51 < fenugrec> I think you miss the basic concept of how interrupt flags work and the point of having a separate "interrupt clear register"
2017-10-22T22:22:57 < fenugrec> DMA_ISR* contain each flag. It's a read-only reg, as the RM says. It's a way of proteecting against read-modify-write issues
2017-10-22T22:23:17 < fenugrec> so to clear one flag, you need to write a '1' at the corresponding location of the relevant ICR register.
2017-10-22T22:24:47 < DelvingDeeper> Yeah, going to have to read up on this. thought I had it down. Better to take a step back and get the basic concepts down
2017-10-22T22:27:33 < DelvingDeeper> fenugrec Ok wait that makes perfect sense. but then why have the bitwise or and not just DMAx->IFCR = DMA_FLAG_HT
2017-10-22T22:27:54 < DelvingDeeper> fenugrec thanks for the help. Thats the last question.really appreciate it
2017-10-22T22:28:55 < fenugrec> because  HAL is written in a silly way, either careless or ignorant. No point at all in having  |=  there
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2017-10-22T22:37:51 < DelvingDeeper> fenugrec: ok great thanks for the help!
2017-10-22T22:49:01 < branjb> haha
2017-10-22T22:49:55 < ColdKeyboard> After transmitting first message over USART, MCU keeps running but UART is no longer transmitting
2017-10-22T22:50:01 < branjb> DelvingDeeper, turns out I had a very slight difference between the two timers.  one of them I was counting CCR with a uint16, the other a uint32, timer reload was set at 65k
2017-10-22T22:50:16 < branjb> so the uint16 would properly overflow but not the 32 bit one
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2017-10-22T22:53:28 < DelvingDeeper> branjb Great, glad you figured it out!
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2017-10-22T22:58:12 < DelvingDeeper> Using an appnote of ST, but I think their handler isn't coded correctly 0_o
2017-10-22T23:01:59 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone have an idea why?
2017-10-22T23:03:31 < DelvingDeeper> ColdKeyBoard I have no idea..Do you mean it just continues in the main loop?
2017-10-22T23:03:52 < ColdKeyboard> DelvingDeeper: It does, it keeps running the code but UART no longer transmitts after a first time
2017-10-22T23:05:01 < DelvingDeeper> That's going to happen. Once your execution is done it'll carry on to the while() that's what it should do unless you programmed some low power mode that it should shut off after transmission
2017-10-22T23:05:40 < ColdKeyboard> DelvingDeeper: Sorry, I have UART transmitt and HAL_Delay(1000) in my while
2017-10-22T23:05:44 < ColdKeyboard> And toggling a LED
2017-10-22T23:05:59 < ColdKeyboard> so LED keeps blinking but on COM port I only get the message once and that's it
2017-10-22T23:06:50 < DelvingDeeper> So your expecting the UART to retransmit constantly? Is it in your while aswell?
2017-10-22T23:07:41 < ColdKeyboard> Yes it is
2017-10-22T23:07:52 < DelvingDeeper> Post a snippet of your code?
2017-10-22T23:08:17 < ColdKeyboard> https://pastebin.com/tA8bsM8B
2017-10-22T23:11:27 < DelvingDeeper> I'm use to seeing HAL_UART_Transmit(..). I can't help here..sorry man
2017-10-22T23:13:27 < ohsix> boogers
2017-10-22T23:19:10 < ColdKeyboard> Here is usart.c https://pastebin.com/ZzM1zTag
2017-10-22T23:19:28 < ColdKeyboard> debugPrint is basically HAL_UART_Transmit(&huart1, (uint8_t *) _out, strlen(_out), HAL_MAX_DELAY);
2017-10-22T23:25:19 < Thorn> l0l @ lcsc and its "registered main without tracking". there is a tracking number in the pdf invoice
2017-10-22T23:25:22 < Thorn> *mail
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2017-10-22T23:53:05 < ColdKeyboard> So the gState of my UART after first transmitt is always HAL_UART_STATE_BUSY
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2017-10-23T00:00:56 < qyx> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/excelitas-technologies/TPIS-1S-1385/1601-1012-ND/6615461
2017-10-23T00:00:59 < qyx> interesting
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2017-10-23T00:33:07 < branjb> anyone know of any good serial terminal programs that have autobaud?
2017-10-23T00:33:25 < zyp> uh, is that even a thing?
2017-10-23T00:33:38 < branjb> i dunno
2017-10-23T00:33:44 < zyp> wouldn't autobaud be a hardware feature, not software?
2017-10-23T00:33:54 < branjb> but my shitbee is giving me garbage and i've triple checked all rates
2017-10-23T00:34:18 < fenugrec> I've read something about software autobaud, but it has to know something about the data to work out the most likely rates
2017-10-23T00:36:12 < fenugrec> I guess you also could iterate over standard rates and watch for framing errors, assuming the # of stop bits is known
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2017-10-23T00:59:35 < englishman> branjb: saleae UART analuzer will attempt autobaud
2017-10-23T01:01:30 < zyp> if you have a LA trace of a UART signal, it should be easy to manually figure out the baudrate
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2017-10-23T01:02:18 < englishman> indeed
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2017-10-23T01:03:20 < branjb> something is fucky because this is a hex dump of the word "Test\r\n\0"
2017-10-23T01:03:22 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/abnkd
2017-10-23T01:03:46 < branjb> that's a lot of bytes for..7 bytes
2017-10-23T01:03:47 < branjb> haha
2017-10-23T01:09:24 < branjb> so both connected to pc with two terminals, I can send back and fourth just fine
2017-10-23T01:09:35 < branjb> connected to f4 uart sends garbage
2017-10-23T01:09:45 < branjb> ftdi on f4 uart reads fine
2017-10-23T01:09:46 < branjb> wtf
2017-10-23T01:12:21 < emeryth> ground problems?
2017-10-23T01:13:54 < branjb> i'm using some shit shield, but the ground seems ok
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2017-10-23T02:11:49 < dongs> ppp ?
2017-10-23T02:16:37 < branjb> fuck xbee
2017-10-23T02:16:41 < branjb> just smashed it with a hammer
2017-10-23T02:20:39 < dongs> looks boring, my last LL project I just copied contents of STM32F0xx_HAL_Driver
2017-10-23T02:20:47 < dongs> which has _hal and _ll
2017-10-23T02:20:48 < dongs> and just used them
2017-10-23T02:21:11 < dongs> _ppp looks like some autogenerated shit so no idea
2017-10-23T02:22:09 < dongs> dnno, just wahtever works
2017-10-23T02:22:55 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/poVgNU19.html ll shit looks close enough to stdperiph
2017-10-23T02:23:31 < dongs> just lots of retarded CAPS
2017-10-23T02:36:09 < Laurenceb_> HAL is cancerous
2017-10-23T02:36:27 < Laurenceb_> tomorrows I'm a gunna be rewriting HAL shit all day
2017-10-23T02:36:47 < Laurenceb_> LL maybe not so cancerous
2017-10-23T02:36:59 < Laurenceb_> do they even test their shit
2017-10-23T02:37:31 < Laurenceb_> HAL has an actually decent callback function system
2017-10-23T02:37:37 < Laurenceb_> but user code can't use it
2017-10-23T02:42:01 < Laurenceb_>  Reminder: Participating in these threads can get you time in prison and harsh fines
2017-10-23T02:55:57 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C46YYTuW8AQYpki.jpg
2017-10-23T03:10:26 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/yAqADid.jpg
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2017-10-23T03:41:09 < dongs> shitpost monday
2017-10-23T03:41:17 < dongs> damn i gotta bluewire this fucking board
2017-10-23T03:55:19 < Laurenceb_> https://www.morepablo.com/img/2011/03/dogshit.jpg
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2017-10-23T04:32:34 < aandrew> I am not going to click a link that says dogshit posted to this chan
2017-10-23T04:32:51 < capacitor> hi andrew
2017-10-23T04:33:48 < aandrew> hi
2017-10-23T04:35:51 < capacitor> sounds like i missed quality stm32
2017-10-23T04:55:59 < upgrdman> dongs, wuts bluewire mean
2017-10-23T04:57:42 < capacitor> laurence is upgrading hal?
2017-10-23T04:58:04 < capacitor> 3;57am fucking steffan get out of bed
2017-10-23T05:05:36 < capacitor> piss!
2017-10-23T05:09:45 < Cracki> file name keeps its promise
2017-10-23T05:23:20 < Thorn> Product as advertised ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
2017-10-23T05:23:39 < capacitor> what is that??
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2017-10-23T05:37:54 < aandrew> bluewire is when you've fucked up a layout and have to do point-to-point wiring with 30AWG "angel hair"
2017-10-23T05:38:04 < aandrew> not sure why but 90% of the time the insulation is blue, henace the name
2017-10-23T05:53:28 < dongs> upgrdman: kynar wire
2017-10-23T05:53:39 < upgrdman> dongs, oh, fixing fuck ups?
2017-10-23T05:53:41 < dongs> ya my roll is blue
2017-10-23T05:53:43 < dongs> right
2017-10-23T05:53:46 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-23T05:54:39 < dongs> 1.8V levels small signal dual mosfet, go
2017-10-23T05:54:48 < dongs> DMN5L06VK-7 is too expensive
2017-10-23T05:55:24 < dongs> DMG1012T-7 is wat im trying to dualize/replace
2017-10-23T05:55:31 < dongs> 4 of t hese shits per board, i'd rather combine it
2017-10-23T05:56:35 < dongs> need Vgs < 1.8V so shit ilke 2n2007 is out
2017-10-23T05:56:58 < fenugrec> dual mosfet $ will always be >= 2 * single mosfet $
2017-10-23T05:57:12 < fenugrec> unless you're short on mm^2
2017-10-23T05:57:16 < dongs> no
2017-10-23T05:57:19 < dongs> DMG is like 3c
2017-10-23T05:57:23 < dongs> DMN is liek 4c
2017-10-23T05:57:26 < dongs> still to omuch tho
2017-10-23T05:57:28 < dongs> i need thousands of them
2017-10-23T05:57:36 < fenugrec> oic
2017-10-23T05:57:36 < dongs> i wanna get a dual in 2-3c
2017-10-23T06:00:01 < Thorn> there is a dual 3904+3906 in a sot23 package
2017-10-23T06:00:07 < Thorn> why mosfets
2017-10-23T06:00:28 < Thorn> and probably 2x3904 too
2017-10-23T06:01:01 < Thorn> Vth = 0.7V
2017-10-23T06:07:47 < aandrew> dongs: NTZD3155CT?
2017-10-23T06:08:38 < dongs> is that even a thing?
2017-10-23T06:08:43 < dongs> theres 19 hits on google
2017-10-23T06:08:50 < dongs> thats dual np
2017-10-23T06:08:53 < dongs> im not making an esc :p
2017-10-23T06:09:24 < aandrew> oh you don't need NP?
2017-10-23T06:09:30 < aandrew> they're way too small for ESCs
2017-10-23T06:09:34 < aandrew> I use them for logic translation
2017-10-23T06:09:44 < aandrew> that + 2 resistors + LED = tiny
2017-10-23T06:10:14 < dongs> dual n yeah
2017-10-23T06:10:18 < dongs> just for switching stuff
2017-10-23T06:10:29 < dongs> i would use transsitor like thorn says but i'd rather not re-prototype tyhis shit
2017-10-23T06:13:41 < dongs> its production board and stuff works i dont wanna make another 1k and find out shit is dodgy
2017-10-23T06:21:01 < englishman> stick with single FETs then?
2017-10-23T06:21:09 < englishman> bjt
2017-10-23T06:22:22 < dongs> no, i dont wanna use single
2017-10-23T06:22:24 < upgrdman> found crt  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIBRYi54VEc
2017-10-23T06:22:28 < dongs> its annoying and wastes s pace
2017-10-23T06:22:41 < upgrdman> i'll let you decide which person in the video is crt
2017-10-23T06:25:49 < englishman> duals will always be 1.5x the price and annoyance of 2x whatever you're looking for
2017-10-23T06:27:35 < dongs> englishman: single = 3c, dual 4c
2017-10-23T06:27:59 < englishman> problem solved then?
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2017-10-23T06:37:08 < dongs> still a bit expensive
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2017-10-23T07:09:30 < dongs> hehe these dual nfets arent even pin1 marked
2017-10-23T07:09:36 < dongs> bceause they work in either orientation
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2017-10-23T07:24:20 < dongs> no
2017-10-23T07:24:54 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/glA1Kg2.png
2017-10-23T07:25:10 < dongs> they're eaxctly same
2017-10-23T07:25:16 < dongs> so either orientation wroks
2017-10-23T07:26:19 < dongs> Package is non-polarized. Parts may be on reel in orientation illustrated, 180° rotated, or mixed (both ways).
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2017-10-23T08:08:44 < dongs> https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=296-46916-ND lol
2017-10-23T08:09:55 < jsoft> Yay :)
2017-10-23T08:10:16 < jsoft> got my octave DSP fitler generation scripts working, and finally things are easy
2017-10-23T08:12:28 < dongs> oh, its a fucking scam
2017-10-23T08:12:43 < dongs> actual resolution is only 2716x1528
2017-10-23T08:13:07 < dongs> its like those fucking chinese "projectors" that claim 4K input and then output using 320x240 DMD
2017-10-23T08:13:13 < dongs> on dickstarter
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2017-10-23T10:17:40 < dongs> dongs time
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2017-10-23T10:52:31 < ohsix> boobs
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2017-10-23T11:55:06 < dongs> https://www.monolithicpower.com/Products/Product-Detail?ProductID=215 wow that is fucking NEAT
2017-10-23T11:55:56 < zyp> yeah?
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2017-10-23T11:57:24 < dongs> kinda shit package for 2A dissipation tho
2017-10-23T12:19:31 < capacitor> DVD Drivers
2017-10-23T12:19:32 < capacitor> wtf
2017-10-23T12:20:07 < capacitor> the dogs bone
2017-10-23T12:20:38 < dongs> haha
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2017-10-23T14:41:56 < Laurenceb> wew void *USBD_static_malloc(uint32_t size)
2017-10-23T14:42:03 < Laurenceb> stay cancerous HAL
2017-10-23T14:44:06 < dongs> what happens if you parallel a couple/three inverters to increase drive current but their propagation delay is slightly different
2017-10-23T14:45:56 < jpa-> probably it will work just fine
2017-10-23T14:46:46 < jpa-> if the other inverters are already in "in-between" state, all should be fine; but if for some reason they are still fully-on when one of them is fully-off, you'll get a current spike
2017-10-23T15:00:46 < dongs> i'm thinking of using 74HC14 to do clock sharing for 25mhz signal
2017-10-23T15:00:57 < dongs> 74HC hax switching speed is 40mhz
2017-10-23T15:01:25 < dongs> ah, crap thats at 5V
2017-10-23T15:01:28 < Laurenceb> http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/01/03/specials/gates-road.html
2017-10-23T15:01:29 < dongs> at 3.3 its probly less
2017-10-23T15:01:30 < Laurenceb> my sides
2017-10-23T15:03:39 < dongs> man what fucking bullshit table is that
2017-10-23T15:03:56 < dongs> 38ns @ 2V 8ns @ 4.5V 6ns @ 6V
2017-10-23T15:04:08 < dongs> tahts not fucking linear
2017-10-23T15:06:46 < sync> ofc it is not
2017-10-23T15:07:40 < BrainDamage> charging a capacitor is an exponential
2017-10-23T15:07:58 < dongs> so how do i find out what that crap is at 3.3V
2017-10-23T15:08:06 < dongs> from what I can tell, its too fucking close to 25MHz to be useful
2017-10-23T15:08:13 < dongs> especially since i can't guarnatee 25C in there
2017-10-23T15:08:18 < dongs> does it get slower or faster @ higher temp?
2017-10-23T15:08:46 < BrainDamage> slower
2017-10-23T15:08:50 < dongs> well fuck
2017-10-23T15:08:59 < BrainDamage> AHC should be 3 times faster than HC
2017-10-23T15:09:08 < dongs> i cant buy ahc in thousands
2017-10-23T15:09:15 < dongs> that was my next choice
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2017-10-23T15:15:54 < Laurenceb> reeee
2017-10-23T15:16:01 < Laurenceb> F042 USB is still broken
2017-10-23T15:16:07 < Laurenceb> I blame the HAL
2017-10-23T15:18:44 < dongs> worksonmymachine.pro
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2017-10-23T15:24:23 < Laurenceb> works on my discovery board too
2017-10-23T15:24:44 < Laurenceb> must be something to do with project setup
2017-10-23T15:24:55 < Laurenceb> the initial enumeration all works ok
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2017-10-23T15:38:49 < Laurenceb> looks like the device class functions are never called
2017-10-23T15:39:00 < Laurenceb> like they arent linked to the rest of the usb stack
2017-10-23T15:49:57 < Laurenceb> stack and heap look ok
2017-10-23T15:49:59 < Laurenceb> wtf
2017-10-23T15:50:03 < Laurenceb> how to debug this?
2017-10-23T15:50:23 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/44551-1-9947/Screenshot%20at%202017-10-20%2015-03-36.png
2017-10-23T15:53:35 < karlp> hrm, is there anything to look for if you're buying a dentist mirror to see inside some tight boxes?
2017-10-23T15:53:56 < karlp> it seems for the price that it doesn't matter much
2017-10-23T15:56:10 < karlp> heh, you can even buy them on digikey.
2017-10-23T15:56:14 < karlp> not nearly as cheap there...
2017-10-23T15:56:41 < daey> dongs: easy. 10V
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2017-10-23T16:04:35 < Laurenceb> class is setup ok
2017-10-23T16:04:40 < Laurenceb> wtf is wrong
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2017-10-23T16:28:21 < Laurenceb> same code def works on F4
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2017-10-23T16:39:52 < Laurenceb> hmm this calls for pro usb debugger
2017-10-23T16:42:22 < Laurenceb> although it would only tell me what error -32 is
2017-10-23T16:42:26 < Laurenceb> so might not help
2017-10-23T16:43:36 < zyp> haha
2017-10-23T16:43:45 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/thread/44551-stm32f042-usb-device-fails
2017-10-23T16:43:59 < zyp> I need a pro ethernet debugger
2017-10-23T16:45:17 < zyp> my shit is dropping packages somewhere and I can't figure out why
2017-10-23T16:46:47 < Laurenceb> I need a random idea generator
2017-10-23T16:46:57 < Laurenceb> as I'm 100% out of ideas for where to look
2017-10-23T16:47:48 < Laurenceb> _Min_Stack_Size = 0x400; /* required amount of stack */ <- in linker script is not going to actually cause errors is it?
2017-10-23T16:48:00 < Laurenceb> i.e. stack is free to grow past there?>
2017-10-23T16:53:32 < zyp> Laurenceb, by the way, I'm looking at your trace
2017-10-23T16:53:56 < zyp> the first three stalled requests are trying to fetch the device qualifier
2017-10-23T16:54:05 < Laurenceb> vusb-analyzer has wrong endianess O_o
2017-10-23T16:54:20 < Laurenceb> zyp: I also get those 3 on Discovery
2017-10-23T16:54:23 < zyp> your device doesn't have a device qualifier and thus stalls it, as it is required to by spec
2017-10-23T16:54:32 < zyp> so that's all correct and expected behavior
2017-10-23T16:54:50 < zyp> okay, so the one you're wondering about is the last one there?
2017-10-23T16:55:02 < Laurenceb> aiui first error is at 0.293224
2017-10-23T16:55:18 < Laurenceb> yeah, then it loops on that error until host gives up
2017-10-23T16:57:00 < zyp> hmm, that one is fetching string #2, exact same request that succeeds at .291842
2017-10-23T16:57:10 < Laurenceb> yeah its weird
2017-10-23T16:57:25 < karlp> yeah, but requesting config 256 is always busted.
2017-10-23T16:57:25 < Laurenceb> ooh
2017-10-23T16:57:36 < Laurenceb> maybe the device is configured ok
2017-10-23T16:57:59 < Laurenceb> using USBD_RegisterClass(&hUsbDeviceFS, &USBD_AUDIO)
2017-10-23T16:58:11 < zyp> karlp, there's no config 256
2017-10-23T16:58:19 < zyp> the Decoded-col doesn't make any sense at all
2017-10-23T16:58:21 < Laurenceb> but due to the error seen in the usb trace the host never gets that far
2017-10-23T16:58:30 < Laurenceb> so I am looking in the wrong place for the error
2017-10-23T16:58:44 < Laurenceb> and I need to understand why there is a string fetch that fails
2017-10-23T16:59:13 < Laurenceb> karlp: thats lunix code not knowing how to handle endianess
2017-10-23T16:59:37 < zyp> Laurenceb, well, your device starts misbehaving after SET_CONFIGURATION
2017-10-23T16:59:38 < Laurenceb> its actually SetConfiguration(1), which is sensible
2017-10-23T16:59:48 < zyp> so it's likely that breaks your device somehow
2017-10-23T17:00:07 < Laurenceb> yeah ok, time to breakpoint it
2017-10-23T17:00:55 < Laurenceb> is that going to be in /Core/  ?
2017-10-23T17:01:11 < Laurenceb> usbd_ctlreq.c  ?
2017-10-23T17:01:42 < Laurenceb> case USB_REQ_SET_CONFIGURATION:
2017-10-23T17:01:45 < Laurenceb> thats a yes
2017-10-23T17:02:16 < zyp> so anyway, ethernet analyzer
2017-10-23T17:02:30 < zyp> I need something that can give me accurate timestamping
2017-10-23T17:02:53 < zyp> http://www.profitap.com/profishark-100m/ <- considering this, but I'm wondering if anybody has any other suggestions
2017-10-23T17:04:11 < Laurenceb> ok USBD_SetClassConfig must fail somewhere
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2017-10-23T17:04:22 < Laurenceb> as I'd actually breakpointed that already
2017-10-23T17:04:27 < Laurenceb> this narrows it down a lot
2017-10-23T17:09:24 < Laurenceb> ok wut
2017-10-23T17:09:26 < Laurenceb> USBD_AUDIO_Init
2017-10-23T17:09:35 < Laurenceb> its a Schroedinger
2017-10-23T17:09:52 < Laurenceb> now it calls the Class init function
2017-10-23T17:10:36 < Laurenceb> I wonder if usb is configured in incorrect order
2017-10-23T17:10:53 < Laurenceb> as due to slow F0 versus F4 the host is only too fast now
2017-10-23T17:11:15 < Laurenceb> wouldn't be the first time HAL had race conditions...
2017-10-23T17:11:55 < Laurenceb> dmesg no longer full of error -32
2017-10-23T17:27:24 < Laurenceb> pc             0x2000002e	0x2000002e <USBD_LangIDDesc+2>
2017-10-23T17:27:26 < Laurenceb> thats bad
2017-10-23T17:29:00 < karlp> stack corrrruption...
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2017-10-23T17:55:28 < Laurenceb> I'm confused
2017-10-23T17:55:48 < Laurenceb> arm-none-eabi-size build/Vibration_Monitor.elf
2017-10-23T17:55:48 < Laurenceb>    text	   data	    bss	    dec	    hex	filename
2017-10-23T17:55:48 < Laurenceb>   28500	    256	   4104	  32860	   805c
2017-10-23T17:56:21 < Laurenceb> yet disassembly shows 20000b00 <end>
2017-10-23T18:04:36 < Laurenceb>  0x20000b00                _ebss = .
2017-10-23T18:04:39 < Laurenceb> literally wut
2017-10-23T18:05:24 < karlp> did you write your linker script and startup in asm again and fuck it up?
2017-10-23T18:05:34 < Laurenceb> no but maybe ST did
2017-10-23T18:05:40 < englishman> whats a linker script
2017-10-23T18:05:47 < englishman> sounds burdensome and unnecessary
2017-10-23T18:05:56 < englishman> doubly so when f0 keil is 100% free
2017-10-23T18:06:16 < karlp> I don't touch them either, but laurence tends to stick his dirty mitts where they don't belong
2017-10-23T18:10:15 < jadew> do you guys get ideas on what could be improved on a board, after you send the board out for production?
2017-10-23T18:10:42 < jadew> I'm trying to get into that state now, before sending it out, but it doesn't seem to work like that
2017-10-23T18:11:04 < qyx> I always discover an improvement when it is too late
2017-10-23T18:11:54 < jadew> yeah, me too, it's like sending the board for production ends the "board is done" state that I'm currently in
2017-10-23T18:13:07 < Steffanx> Virtually send it to the fab
2017-10-23T18:13:52 < jadew> great advice, I'll pretend I already did that
2017-10-23T18:14:27 < jadew> generating gerbers
2017-10-23T18:17:05 < sync> I usually stare at the gerbers for a while zapping through the layers
2017-10-23T18:22:42 < karlp> go look at other boards you did, and check off whether you made the changes/ideas you had post send off to this board
2017-10-23T18:24:19 < jadew> good idea too
2017-10-23T18:24:35 < jadew> I keep a checklist, but maybe I forgot something
2017-10-23T18:26:45 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/Jq3PS4d4
2017-10-23T18:26:50 < Laurenceb> memory dump after it errors
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2017-10-23T18:48:24 < trepid> Has anyone run into problems on STM32F4 with losing RTC time (resetting to 2000-01-01) even when battery is present? Seems to happen to some boards when power cycled.
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2017-10-23T18:50:55 < DelvingDeeper> Is there anyway I can test the DMA reception speed? I have it set up to be triggered by a timer, so when the timer gets a rising edge the dma does a GPIO -> memory transfer. Just want to see how fast I can read data before it starts missing pulses
2017-10-23T19:06:12 < Laurenceb> ok looks like I don't have any issues with memory collision
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2017-10-23T19:28:11 < Laurenceb> tiem to email ST
2017-10-23T19:30:34 < Laurenceb> just tried painting ram with magic numbers, theres several k of unused ram in the middle
2017-10-23T19:33:15 < Laurenceb> its got to be another ST HAL idiocy
2017-10-23T19:33:22 < karlp> that doesnt help if yoyu actually trample a pointer
2017-10-23T19:33:34 < karlp> painting ram only helps if you simply overrun
2017-10-23T19:33:37 < upgrdman_> dangling pointers suck
2017-10-23T19:33:41 < upgrdman_> dirty danglers
2017-10-23T19:34:41 < Laurenceb> karlp: yeah, but its hard to see how copypastered code is going to fail on F042 but not F4
2017-10-23T19:34:53 < Laurenceb> I disabled the other stuff so its just running the USB
2017-10-23T19:35:09 < karlp> depends how badly you mangled the other shit
2017-10-23T19:35:15 < karlp> a mangled poitner cna point to anything
2017-10-23T19:35:28 < karlp> it might have just read out something plausible on f4, and kept going
2017-10-23T19:35:38 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-23T19:35:51 < Laurenceb> guess I'll create a blank test project for F042
2017-10-23T19:36:24 < karlp> you are still trying to work on your entire project at once?
2017-10-23T19:36:26 < karlp> you're a lunatic
2017-10-23T19:38:09 < Laurenceb> just disabling parts
2017-10-23T19:38:20 < Laurenceb> I have the entire thing on F4 with dummy sensors
2017-10-23T19:38:34 < Laurenceb> its not complex, just a few hundred lines
2017-10-23T19:38:49 < Laurenceb> read sensors -> process -> stick over usb
2017-10-23T19:39:54 < Laurenceb> bbl
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2017-10-23T21:12:06 < renn0xtk9> I am getting a bit confused with an stm32F103 as to how define a VID /PID for the USB
2017-10-23T21:12:12 < renn0xtk9> don't find much doc on internet
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2017-10-23T21:13:32 < PaulFertser> renn0xtk9: you need to clarify. Do you mean how to set specific IDs when using some specific library? Have you tried looking at how the whole USB descriptor is specified?
2017-10-23T21:15:51 < renn0xtk9> PaulFerster basically I am starting with STM32 I want to make a usb device, that I will plug to a linux computer, and for which I will write a USB driver. I have experience with V-USB on ATmegas, but I don't really know where to start with stm32.  I can compile and flash a Led blinking programm . I am using HAL
2017-10-23T21:16:19 < renn0xtk9> but using the USB remains blur to me, looking on internet, it seems there aren't two people doing the same thing:S
2017-10-23T21:18:10 < Thorn> that means you are using wrong keywords
2017-10-23T21:19:26 < Thorn> http://kreativtforum.no/media/uploads/public/0/308/36708-8c395-profile_header.jpg
2017-10-23T21:19:57 < renn0xtk9> nice picture ;) but that still remains cryptic to me
2017-10-23T21:21:35 < PaulFertser> renn0xtk9: I personally used libopencm3 example project when I wanted to implement a USB device with stm32. But if you're using ST's shit-HAL, I've no idea, wait for the others to suggest something.
2017-10-23T21:21:56 < Thorn> https://www.mtbiker.sk/forum/resources/image/thumb/11279
2017-10-23T21:22:12 < Thorn> >Best guess for this image: meteor scatter
2017-10-23T21:24:00 < renn0xtk9> PaulFerster Okay I will take a look at it I am not fixed on HAL , just using it coz I have been advised so .
2017-10-23T21:24:14 < renn0xtk9> @Thorn&&superbia oh well, have fun ;)
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2017-10-23T21:58:52 < gxti> icelanders take hamming very seriously
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2017-10-23T22:06:38 < renn0xtk9> I have done a project with CubeMx but don't find the USBD_DeviceDsc
2017-10-23T22:28:28 < aandrew> I seem to remember CubeMx USB being kind of a pain in the ass
2017-10-23T22:28:35 < aandrew> it works but it's a lot of dicking around
2017-10-23T22:28:50 < aandrew> mind you Cypress PSoC USB was the exact same way
2017-10-23T22:29:07 < aandrew> I think USB in general is a pain in the ass because the hardware needs so much software support to do anything
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2017-10-23T23:10:11 < upgrdman_> s/usb/any modern protocol :(
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2017-10-23T23:19:56 < DelvingDeeper> Has anyone used the cubeMx with DMA? set it to increment but doesn't seem to be doing anything..:/ Just want to know if it's maybe a bug on their side or mine?
2017-10-23T23:29:25 < DelvingDeeper> Yip, its set in cube but the bits were never set in the MINC and PINC registers
2017-10-23T23:31:55 < karlp> gxti: well, maybe that guy, I don't really think it's very big here at all honestly.
2017-10-23T23:38:35 < upgrdman_> DelvingDeeper, did you enable all of the clocks
2017-10-23T23:38:50 < upgrdman_> for your periph, and for dma, and for gpio or whatever
2017-10-23T23:41:04 < DelvingDeeper> upgrdman_ all clocks are enabled. the DMA and everything works, it just doesn't increment unless i do it manually
2017-10-23T23:41:23 < upgrdman_> hmm k
2017-10-23T23:44:19 < DelvingDeeper> upgrdman_ I just regenerated and checked the registers again. According to the ref manual in the DMA_SxCR register, the MINC determines whether it increments, although it stays 0 whether I set it to increment or not..
2017-10-23T23:44:53 < upgrdman_> its been a while since i've played with dma on stm32. not sure.
2017-10-23T23:47:53 < DelvingDeeper> upgrdman_ no worries, thanks for the input!
2017-10-23T23:49:46 < ohsix> buns
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2017-10-23T23:51:31 < ohsix> shenzen molesmell
2017-10-23T23:51:59 < ohsix> need a chinabro to tell me how these translations happen or if the business literally is picking two words and mashing them together
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2017-10-24T00:04:12 < ohsix> https://molesmell.aliexpress.com/store/107456?spm=2114.search0104.3.144.WNcbpW
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2017-10-24T00:13:16 < DelvingDeeper> Anyone maybe know how I can test data reception speed? transmission is easy, but reception check has me going 0_o
2017-10-24T00:16:37 < aandrew> ohsix: IIRC a lot of asian domains are words smashed together to get a particular sounding website
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2017-10-24T00:16:55 < aandrew> I had a china guy explain it to me, that's how some of those numbered domains get their names
2017-10-24T00:17:23 < aandrew> the two numbers said right after another create a sound that resembles a positive or cool sounding word
2017-10-24T00:18:10 < ohsix> ah, like 168.com? so it's onomotapoeic or watever
2017-10-24T00:18:36 < aandrew> something like that yes
2017-10-24T00:19:05 < ohsix> molesmell is kind of a cool name anyways, but what process other than this would ever have you picking it
2017-10-24T00:20:03 < aandrew> why you'd want your nose up a mole's arse is another question entirely
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2017-10-24T00:27:47 < ohsix> the smell of a mole is pretty nuanced
2017-10-24T00:29:23 < ohsix> been slacking on software for a thing
2017-10-24T00:29:51 < ohsix> i think i've found a way to do it that doesn't suck; and keeps the parameter passing and function variants to a minimum
2017-10-24T00:30:54 < ohsix> all the generators are going to generate one scalar value, and i'm going to have a set of color mapping functions, and a 'window'/view function, you pass time or whatever to the window function and it offsets all the arguments to the generators, maps all the results
2017-10-24T00:45:23 < Rob235> blah, why is the fill() messing up for the right arm https://imgur.com/a/3GpOP
2017-10-24T00:50:24 < upgrdman_> needs moar blue
2017-10-24T00:53:07 < Steffanx> Better call eiffel 65
2017-10-24T00:55:48 < englishman> hi steffy
2017-10-24T00:55:54 < englishman> I'm out walking the cat
2017-10-24T00:56:00 < englishman> might make some hutspot
2017-10-24T00:56:38 < ohsix> Rob235: arms?
2017-10-24T00:56:55 < ohsix> is that all filled in just to look filled in or is that the kind of information you actually need
2017-10-24T00:56:55 < Rob235> drawing arms
2017-10-24T00:57:33 < ohsix> most of the ranges will be found by limit switches unless you have synchronous encoders, then they're all absolute
2017-10-24T00:58:06 < Rob235> those arent changeable settings, they are just showing the values
2017-10-24T00:58:10 < ohsix> and the positions don't necessarily convey anything
2017-10-24T00:58:12 < ds2> sigh... forgot to tent the vias :(
2017-10-24T00:59:41 < Rob235> actually the positions are in 0.1 mm increments... who cares if its not that valuable though? quit hating just to hate. its just showing information
2017-10-24T01:00:54 < ohsix> it's nto showing information
2017-10-24T01:00:57 < ohsix> they may as well be random
2017-10-24T01:01:14 < ohsix> they can see the movement of the axis too
2017-10-24T01:02:26 < Rob235> oh no! I wasted a day on unneeded graphics! I should kill myself!
2017-10-24T01:02:50 < ohsix> heh
2017-10-24T01:03:32 < ohsix> do you know how those machines are operated?
2017-10-24T01:03:43 < ohsix> there are rarely/never manual tool moves unless there is a pendant and a dro
2017-10-24T01:03:50 < Rob235> what if its drawing in another room and you want to keep an eye on the progress? I think this would be useful
2017-10-24T01:04:04 < ohsix> and what the gcode is doing, the gcode is basically never seen or cross referenced
2017-10-24T01:04:13 < ohsix> put a camera on it
2017-10-24T01:04:23 < ohsix> the machine doesn't actually know where the arms are
2017-10-24T01:04:33 < ohsix> unless you have encoders on those axis
2017-10-24T01:04:42 < Rob235> yes it does... how else would it know where to go?
2017-10-24T01:04:55 < Rob235> steppers are accurate enough to keep track of
2017-10-24T01:04:55 < ohsix> it doesn't
2017-10-24T01:05:15 < ohsix> you zero them out and you assume nothing changes between steps
2017-10-24T01:05:29 < Rob235> yes, and?
2017-10-24T01:05:33 < ohsix> then it's just an accumulator, the machine itself or the controller has nfi anything is wrong
2017-10-24T01:05:44 < ohsix> so your readout will show the same values but the machine is actually fucked
2017-10-24T01:06:29 < ohsix> have you ever heard someone else call someone alarmist? providing information that does no practical good or conveys little to no useful informatino, but is there _as if_ it were important, as if it were to be used, is almost malicious
2017-10-24T01:06:32 < Rob235> dude you really love to bitch dont you? so if it breaks it fails, big deal, maybe I dont make things as shitty as you and it will tend to work almost all the time
2017-10-24T01:07:14 < Rob235> I'm just doing it for fun, go suck some dicks
2017-10-24T01:07:16 < ohsix> didn't you react the same to someone else offering useful advice
2017-10-24T01:07:30 < aandrew> heh Rob235 back at it again
2017-10-24T01:07:53 < Rob235> you are telling me to remove 'unnecessary' information, who cares man
2017-10-24T01:07:55 < ohsix> if i was operating a machine with that interface i would be pissed
2017-10-24T01:08:08 < Rob235> thats because you are dumb
2017-10-24T01:08:15 < ohsix> i'm a machine operator
2017-10-24T01:08:18 < Rob235> and let little shit annoy you because you hate yourself
2017-10-24T01:08:24 < aandrew> Rob235: seriously. what is the fucking point of posting what you're doing if you attack anyone who comments on it?
2017-10-24T01:08:31 < aandrew> is your ego really that fucking fragile? fuck off already.
2017-10-24T01:08:37 < enh> Oh, love. Love is everywhere.
2017-10-24T01:09:03 < aandrew> you pulled the exact same shit when we all told you having an error dialogue auto-clear was a bad idea
2017-10-24T01:09:16 < aandrew> seriously, just work on it, tell yourself it's teh awesome and stop bugging us
2017-10-24T01:09:19 < Rob235> oh no!
2017-10-24T01:09:22 < ohsix> i mentioned absolute axis encoders deliberately
2017-10-24T01:09:31 < ohsix> will you be able to operate those machine types with those interfaces?
2017-10-24T01:10:28 < ohsix> also the units are totally abstract and arbitrary
2017-10-24T01:10:44 < ohsix> you want the actual readout to be in mm or something in the physical space, not the step number from zero
2017-10-24T01:10:50 < ohsix> that goes for limits too
2017-10-24T01:11:21 < ohsix> one thing that may be useful is a graph with the acceleration profile
2017-10-24T01:11:38 < Rob235> its for testing dumbass, and for my setup I already told you, the units work out to 0.1 mm
2017-10-24T01:11:39 < ohsix> you could concievably be watching for tool moves that are too fast
2017-10-24T01:11:53 < ohsix> centimillimeters? :p
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2017-10-24T01:12:07 < Rob235> so I divide by 10 when I'm ready. big deal
2017-10-24T01:12:34 < ohsix> so for any tool move, those numbers are going to change so fast you won't even see them, and that's if they were on 7seg and changed every step
2017-10-24T01:13:01 < ohsix> tool moves are on the order of 5mm-80mm for small machines
2017-10-24T01:13:30 < Rob235> I didn't plan on updating it in realtime...
2017-10-24T01:13:34 < ohsix> anyways fuck off, here's some free advice, i'm glad you're still working on it
2017-10-24T01:13:40 < aandrew> ohsix: don't bother, he just wants to bitch and moan
2017-10-24T01:13:59 < ohsix> i know you're not, 7seg is best case scenario for display update, what you are doing is a million miles away; that favors not showing submillimeter
2017-10-24T01:14:58 < ohsix> the biggest risk i have on irc, is also someone reading what i type; then i have to talk with them over their concerns :\
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2017-10-24T01:16:33 < ohsix> people get so excited
2017-10-24T01:16:34 < ohsix> hhe
2017-10-24T01:16:45 < ohsix> anyways, i was soliciting advise/thoughts on the animation thing
2017-10-24T01:18:10 < aandrew> yeah. he just wants pats on the back and attaboys
2017-10-24T01:18:25 < aandrew> maybe rob235 is trump's irc alter ago
2017-10-24T01:20:27 < ohsix> gotta put your good faith in one basket and bad faith in the other
2017-10-24T01:21:05 < ohsix> that's why i like art, it is almost impossible to say that someone is doing something wrong, just because you know something related to what they're doing
2017-10-24T01:21:26 < aandrew> depends on what they're trying to achieve
2017-10-24T01:21:30 < aandrew> there's lots of ways to fuck up art too
2017-10-24T01:21:31 < Rickta59> heh .. how do you explain art critics?
2017-10-24T01:21:36 < aandrew> I don't just mean subjectively either
2017-10-24T01:21:54 < ohsix> yea but you often don't k now what they're trying to achieve
2017-10-24T01:22:00 < ohsix> or, they could be subverting that
2017-10-24T01:22:01 < aandrew> if you're trying to draw a dog and it's got three dicks I'm pretty sure it's not right unless your name is salvador dali
2017-10-24T01:22:09 < aandrew> ohsix: that's kind of my point
2017-10-24T01:22:18 < ohsix> that's only if it is an expression of a dog with a realistic number of dicks
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2017-10-24T01:22:37 < ohsix> i don't know shit about art but i was going to cite dada and duchamp
2017-10-24T01:22:47 < aandrew> if they're trying to be unusual or imaginative that's not really something you can crticize. but if they're clearly trying to make something recognizable and relatable you can say something to that effect
2017-10-24T01:22:48 < ohsix> art that is art criticism is also art :D
2017-10-24T01:23:00 < ohsix> you mean like the belgian realistis
2017-10-24T01:23:28 < ohsix> that were messing with light and physical processes
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2017-10-24T01:34:53 < ohsix> animation thing is eventually going to go into 2d/3d led displays
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2017-10-24T01:48:14 < englishman> attn Steffanx http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberal-government-advised-not-to-call-young-people-millennials-lest-they-be-insulted
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2017-10-24T02:27:47 < Cracki> is it shitpost time? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DM2iN1kX0AAi3q0.jpg (Blogger bakes sourdough bread using her own vaginal yeast)
2017-10-24T02:28:12 < englishman> as long as there are no real chats going, its always shitpost time
2017-10-24T02:28:18 < Cracki> lovely
2017-10-24T02:28:19 < englishman> it has to be funny tho
2017-10-24T02:28:34 < Cracki> depends on the humor :P
2017-10-24T02:28:42 < englishman> better luck next time
2017-10-24T02:30:47 < englishman> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/atom-x1-worlds-smallest-32-bit-arduino-diy#/
2017-10-24T02:32:01 < Cracki> there's a limit to how useful miniaturization can be
2017-10-24T02:32:45 < Cracki> is that an atsam or atmega32?
2017-10-24T02:32:59 < Cracki> ah samd
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2017-10-24T02:40:45 < branjb> which is better
2017-10-24T02:40:48 < branjb> resistor > LED > ground
2017-10-24T02:40:53 < branjb> or LED > resistor > ground
2017-10-24T02:41:42 < karlp> you check the sink/source current capability of your driver.
2017-10-24T02:41:47 < karlp> (this used to matter a lot more)
2017-10-24T02:41:52 < englishman> none, sinking is better
2017-10-24T02:42:12 < karlp> oh, heh, that's how I read it anyway :)
2017-10-24T02:42:24 < englishman> hey karl
2017-10-24T02:42:28 < englishman> this kolsch is awesome
2017-10-24T02:42:32 < englishman> hallertau is awesome
2017-10-24T02:42:46 < karlp> no, kölsch is awesome, hallertau is just some hop they occasionally put in good beers :)
2017-10-24T02:42:59 < englishman> hater
2017-10-24T02:43:18 < karlp> hehe
2017-10-24T02:43:24 < karlp> nah, not really,
2017-10-24T02:43:34 < karlp> I just got a bit tired of "oooh, it's german, it's excdllent"
2017-10-24T02:43:35 < branjb> i'm just putting LEDs on the voltage regulator
2017-10-24T02:43:48 < branjb> to know if it's on
2017-10-24T02:44:13 < branjb> also
2017-10-24T02:44:35 < englishman> its not german, german beers suck
2017-10-24T02:44:52 < englishman> koln is barely even germany
2017-10-24T02:45:34 < englishman> reinheitsgebot is fascism
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2017-10-24T02:47:46 < englishman> found pic of R2COM http://i.magaimg.net/img/1o0r.jpg
2017-10-24T02:48:38 < kaa> anyone like romantic come to age musical movies?
2017-10-24T02:49:08 < kaa> R2COM delivering freedom
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2017-10-24T02:50:05 < kaa> Mr.Robot is here
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2017-10-24T03:07:31 < dongs> do you think oscillator will be able to drive 6 inverters inputs tied together
2017-10-24T03:07:59 < dongs> or doesnt the shit need like xxmA per each input
2017-10-24T03:08:11 < dongs> oh maybe i can use one as input then drive the rest of ganged shits from that output
2017-10-24T03:08:57 < englishman> you mean like a cmos tcxo
2017-10-24T03:09:12 < dongs> well not t but yeah
2017-10-24T03:09:23 < dongs> just a square wave oscillator
2017-10-24T03:09:29 < englishman> e z to calc if you have necessary drive current
2017-10-24T03:09:32 < ohsix> kolsch is the one i like in the costco beer variety thing
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2017-10-24T03:09:38 < ohsix> they only have it in there for a month or two a year
2017-10-24T03:09:49 < dongs> rite, but i think ill just fuckit and send its output through one inverter first and then gang up stuff behind that
2017-10-24T03:09:53 < dongs> i only need 2 outputs anyway
2017-10-24T03:10:00 < dongs> and i have 6 inverters
2017-10-24T03:14:51 < dongs> has altidumb stopped updating circuitmaker.
2017-10-24T03:15:00 < dongs> its still (c) 2016 and hasnt been updated in almost a year
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2017-10-24T03:31:29 < englishman> altidumb has stopped updating altidumb
2017-10-24T03:31:40 < englishman> all bugfixes will be payware for 18
2017-10-24T03:33:03 < dongs> lol right
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2017-10-24T03:33:10 < dongs> and fucking gray UI
2017-10-24T03:33:21 < dongs> i hope they have a fucking menu option to go back to [x] NOT HIPSTER mode
2017-10-24T03:43:54 < Cracki> so what's it look like now? I only find screenshots that look reasonably bland
2017-10-24T03:44:28 < dongs> circuitcracker?
2017-10-24T03:44:29 < dongs> or altium
2017-10-24T03:44:48 < dongs> it looks like a normal windows app
2017-10-24T03:44:57 < dongs> but screenshots/videos of A18 thats been posted look fucking gross
2017-10-24T03:45:08 < dongs> dark hipster scheme on everything
2017-10-24T03:45:11 < Cracki> ah, then I should search for a18
2017-10-24T03:45:37 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fLnmBx3dKY
2017-10-24T03:45:46 < dongs> volume warning
2017-10-24T03:45:46 < Cracki> oooh
2017-10-24T03:45:56 < Cracki> dark and moody
2017-10-24T03:46:22 < Cracki> contrast looks worse
2017-10-24T03:46:53 < dongs> my only hope its an option
2017-10-24T03:46:55 < Cracki> my biggest complaint about white-on-black schemes is that it's gray on dark gray
2017-10-24T03:47:37 < dongs> my bigest complaint is that shit exists at all
2017-10-24T03:47:41 < dongs> fucking hipsters
2017-10-24T03:48:04 < Cracki> that video... *minutes* for operations?
2017-10-24T03:48:09 < dongs> o yeah
2017-10-24T03:48:19 < Cracki> clearly I'm expecting too much
2017-10-24T03:48:28 < dongs> with kikecad it would take years
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2017-10-24T03:48:35 < dongs> cuz you';d need to code the feature first
2017-10-24T03:48:41 < Cracki> what kinds of algorithms do they run that take minutes
2017-10-24T03:48:50 < dongs> singhe threaded delphi algorithm
2017-10-24T03:48:54 < Cracki> hah
2017-10-24T03:49:05 < Cracki> even then...
2017-10-24T03:49:40 < Cracki> are you serious, altium is/was delphi-based?
2017-10-24T03:49:45 < dongs> it still is yes
2017-10-24T03:49:49 < Cracki> okeh
2017-10-24T03:50:05 < dongs> when it crashes badly you occasioanlly see pascal related trash
2017-10-24T03:50:09 < Cracki> maybe I should send my CV. i still know delphi a little bit
2017-10-24T03:50:21 < dongs> in the tracebacks or whatever
2017-10-24T03:52:50 < Cracki> apparently delphi has nothing like c++ templates
2017-10-24T03:52:53 < Cracki> (still)
2017-10-24T03:53:17 < Cracki> some type of generics
2017-10-24T03:53:43 < dongs> heh, that PCB in the video
2017-10-24T03:53:57 < dongs> http://www.altium.com/resources/altium_at_eds17.jpg
2017-10-24T03:53:58 < dongs> is this
2017-10-24T03:54:55 < Cracki> thb they can use whatever languages they want, as long as they deliver the value for the money
2017-10-24T03:55:08 < dongs> they're doing pretty OK with that.
2017-10-24T03:55:22 < dongs> i only know one repeatable crash in latest altium 17
2017-10-24T03:55:26 < Cracki> nice
2017-10-24T03:55:34 < dongs> and it doesnt actually do anything *bad* so I just let it crash and continue work
2017-10-24T03:56:13 < dongs> and itmight be related to my use case, because default IPC wizard wants to embed 3d model into the pcblib, but I chose to save it in another place
2017-10-24T03:56:38 < dongs> and after hitting final 'done' there, it crashes, but all teh work is already saved and its just their crash dialog that you can cancel and keep on working
2017-10-24T03:57:12 < Cracki> graceful error recovery... a beautiful thing.
2017-10-24T03:57:30 < Cracki> that's one advantage of object pascal
2017-10-24T03:57:55 < Cracki> it's not as fucked as C++, the language mandates bounds checks and stuff
2017-10-24T03:59:08 < Cracki> which reminds me, I should get into c# perhaps...
2017-10-24T04:01:33 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/729A0rc.png will it work?!
2017-10-24T04:01:52 < dongs> below is the expensive way and top is the ghetto way
2017-10-24T04:02:59 < englishman> both are the ghetto way
2017-10-24T04:03:12 < dongs> haha
2017-10-24T04:04:04 < dongs> how so
2017-10-24T04:06:33 < dongs> the CDCLVC thing is literally the same thing i made with inverters
2017-10-24T04:06:36 < dongs> internally
2017-10-24T04:09:28 < dongs> https://assets.nexperia.com/documents/data-sheet/74AHC_AHCT3G04.pdf this would be nice but I have a feeling nobody except NXP makes that shit
2017-10-24T04:13:08 < Thorn> dongs you told me to use proper mosfet drivers some time ago
2017-10-24T04:13:18 < dongs> and y o udidnt, and ghettoed some shit up?
2017-10-24T04:13:22 < Thorn> why are you paralleling inverters now
2017-10-24T04:13:33 < dongs> thorn, cuz clock buffer is $1
2017-10-24T04:13:38 < dongs> inverter is $0.06
2017-10-24T04:13:44 < dongs> im not paying $1000 to buffer clocks
2017-10-24T04:14:03 < Thorn> o rly and when I said the same thing you said I was cheap
2017-10-24T04:14:20 < dongs> thorn, how many of your things have you made so far
2017-10-24T04:14:26 < dongs> i've already made something like 10k of these boards
2017-10-24T04:14:33 < Thorn> 100
2017-10-24T04:14:41 < dongs> ic well, the scale is slightly different here.
2017-10-24T04:15:10 < Thorn> ok domgs@apple.com
2017-10-24T04:15:21 < Thorn> or dongs@
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2017-10-24T04:17:56 < dongs> https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20171017034933AAJnU3Y found zyp's future gf
2017-10-24T04:24:14 < Laurenceb_> epintrawl
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2017-10-24T04:25:28 < Thorn> Laurenceb_ after 3 weeks of hacking HAL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9YZS0TYv_E
2017-10-24T04:25:41 < dongs> The last link has been flagged by IRC NANNY as "Possibly Unsuitable". Please find your parent(s) first and have them check the content before opening. [this channel protected by IrCNaNNY by SafeSoft v1.0b]
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2017-10-24T04:26:45 < Laurenceb_> https://hailtothegynocracy.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/virginia-hale.png?w=640
2017-10-24T04:26:52 < Laurenceb_> actual zyp gf
2017-10-24T04:28:10 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/3Vo6q53.png as if anyone actually does that lol
2017-10-24T04:28:30 < dongs> more caps around your vcc than you can shake a stick at
2017-10-24T04:29:58 < Laurenceb_> https://i.pinimg.com/avatars/nayri-42_280.jpg
2017-10-24T04:29:59 < Laurenceb_> my eyes
2017-10-24T04:32:09 < Laurenceb_>  /pol/ moderatrix
2017-10-24T04:32:28 < Laurenceb_> looks weird enough for the rumour to be true
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2017-10-24T04:33:50 < dongs> nobody cares, laurence/b/
2017-10-24T04:34:27 < Laurenceb_> supreme gentlemen care
2017-10-24T04:34:36 < Laurenceb_> and wizards
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2017-10-24T04:35:58 < Laurenceb_> http://i.imgur.com/G9Rn7hp.jpg
2017-10-24T04:36:00 < Laurenceb_> accurate
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2017-10-24T04:42:09 < Laurenceb_> http://britfa.gs/b/src/150404751220.jpg
2017-10-24T04:43:07 < Laurenceb_> most famous Briton
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2017-10-24T06:55:03 < emeb_mac> how low?
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2017-10-24T11:18:21 < dongs> score
2017-10-24T11:18:25 < dongs> i ahve 8200 allpcb points
2017-10-24T11:18:29 < dongs> i wonder how much thats wroth
2017-10-24T11:18:59 < dongs> oh for fucks sake
2017-10-24T11:19:03 < dongs> 16500 points = $10
2017-10-24T11:19:05 < dongs> useless
2017-10-24T11:19:45 < qyx> dhl from seed is coming
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2017-10-24T11:52:27 < capacitor> hello; welcome
2017-10-24T12:10:01 < Jak_o_Shadows> ah, piss
2017-10-24T12:10:12 < dongs> My.Week.As.A.Muslim.2017.720p.HDTV.x264-PLUTONiUM
2017-10-24T12:10:20 < dongs> ^ attn stvn
2017-10-24T12:10:35 < Jak_o_Shadows> for some reason, I can't setup the RTC on the stm32f103c8t6 blue pill board I have soldered onto the protoboard
2017-10-24T12:10:45 < dongs> whats wrong?
2017-10-24T12:10:47 < dongs> ive used rtc on 103
2017-10-24T12:10:49 < dongs> it just works
2017-10-24T12:11:09 < capacitor> thanks dongs
2017-10-24T12:11:29 < Jak_o_Shadows> Well, i'm using lib opencm3, but it's having trouble waiting for one of the registers
2017-10-24T12:11:40 < dongs> when that happens it usually means you didnt turn on power
2017-10-24T12:11:46 < Jak_o_Shadows> and yeah, this code is working on the blue pill that isn't on board
2017-10-24T12:11:48 < dongs> i think for rtc you need to power up bkp and rtc blocks
2017-10-24T12:11:49 < dongs> or something
2017-10-24T12:11:58 < dongs> Jak_o_Shadows: oh, it works elsewhere?
2017-10-24T12:11:59 < capacitor> open sauce
2017-10-24T12:12:07 < Jak_o_Shadows> yup
2017-10-24T12:12:07 < dongs> what about LSI  crystal soldering
2017-10-24T12:12:15 < dongs> can you check if its oscillating by scopeetc
2017-10-24T12:12:27 < capacitor> here i am watching utoobs of niggers getting the death penalty
2017-10-24T12:12:38 < Jak_o_Shadows> that's analog right? a logic analyzer wont' pick taht up?
2017-10-24T12:12:56 < dongs> correct
2017-10-24T12:13:13 < Jak_o_Shadows> no ist he answer then
2017-10-24T12:13:37 < zyp> can't you output LSE through MCO?
2017-10-24T12:13:48 < zyp> then look at MCO with LA
2017-10-24T12:14:13 < zyp> kinda pointless though, quicker to just look at the LSE status bits
2017-10-24T12:15:09 < Jak_o_Shadows> My power to the board isnt' too stable - according to my cheap DMM
2017-10-24T12:15:16 < Jak_o_Shadows> also, VBAT has no voltage
2017-10-24T12:15:22 < dongs> oh
2017-10-24T12:15:24 < dongs> well
2017-10-24T12:15:33 < dongs> you don't need vbat unless you plan to run rtc without main vcc
2017-10-24T12:15:44 < dongs> there's a switch inside that pwoers vbat from normal power rails
2017-10-24T12:15:53 < dongs> vbat is ONLY for when you wanna keep clock running without main power on.
2017-10-24T12:16:06 < zyp> what dongs said
2017-10-24T12:16:14 < zyp> vbat is only every used if vcc is not present
2017-10-24T12:16:23 < Jak_o_Shadows> ah, ok
2017-10-24T12:16:31 < Jak_o_Shadows> thougth it might've been something that I turned on somewhere
2017-10-24T12:17:24 < Jak_o_Shadows> LSE is connected to C14, C15 yeah?
2017-10-24T12:21:16  * Jak_o_Shadows opens ref manual
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2017-10-24T12:21:24 < dongs> irc 13/14
2017-10-24T12:21:26 < dongs> 15 is tamper
2017-10-24T12:21:29 < dongs> irc=iirc
2017-10-24T12:21:44 < Jak_o_Shadows> yes. misread schematic. thanks
2017-10-24T12:21:51 < dongs> is that why it doesnt work?
2017-10-24T12:21:54 < dongs> you got it on wrong pins?
2017-10-24T12:22:13 < Jak_o_Shadows> nah.
2017-10-24T12:22:21 < Jak_o_Shadows> i was aksing because i may be able to get to a scope at some point
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2017-10-24T12:23:58 < capacitor> peter
2017-10-24T12:24:24 < Jak_o_Shadows> Getting stuck on while ((reg32 = (RCC_BDCR & RCC_BDCR_LSERDY)) == 0); specifically. Which i am tryingn to make sense of
2017-10-24T12:24:32 < Jak_o_Shadows> what physical things could I have done to bugger it up?
2017-10-24T12:24:42 < dongs> yeah it means your LSI isnt oscilalting
2017-10-24T12:24:48 < dongs> er LSE
2017-10-24T12:27:30 < karlp> did you turn LSE on at least?
2017-10-24T12:27:34 < karlp> did you turn the backup domain on?
2017-10-24T12:27:41 < dongs> i already asked him that
2017-10-24T12:27:43 < dongs> but hes using opensores
2017-10-24T12:27:47 < dongs> libopenaidsstm32
2017-10-24T12:28:15 < capacitor> so it should be okay then?
2017-10-24T12:28:18 < Jak_o_Shadows> also, it is working on the other board, and same code has worked for weeks at a time
2017-10-24T12:28:28 < dongs> clearly just shitty soldering man
2017-10-24T12:29:06 < karlp> oh, you didn't mention it worked on another board :)
2017-10-24T12:30:04 < capacitor> not a whole lot
2017-10-24T12:33:07 < karlp> Cracki: why not ada? (instead of "object pascal" if you're into that sort of thing)
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2017-10-24T12:34:19 < karlp> 23:45 < englishman> reinheitsgebot is fascism  <<< Could not agree more man
2017-10-24T12:35:00 < capacitor> who killed peter
2017-10-24T12:35:07 < capacitor> also where is steffan(pro)
2017-10-24T12:35:10 < dongs> he got bored of autistic chats
2017-10-24T12:35:16 < capacitor> yeah true
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2017-10-24T12:35:26 < dongs> blame mr.six
2017-10-24T12:35:50 < capacitor> ah yeah that old chestnut
2017-10-24T12:36:13 < qyx> mhm, how do I disable jtag?
2017-10-24T12:36:26 < dongs> which chip
2017-10-24T12:36:29 < qyx> is it suffiecient to chage the port AF from AF0 to AFx?
2017-10-24T12:36:31 < qyx> F4
2017-10-24T12:36:34 < dongs> yes
2017-10-24T12:36:44 < dongs> in F1 you gotat use some AFIO shit
2017-10-24T12:36:46 < qyx> mhm, my spi port doesn't spi
2017-10-24T12:36:48 < dongs> on F4 just change AF to something else
2017-10-24T12:37:17 < capacitor> glad you're here if the backlog of drinkspills clears
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2017-10-24T12:37:35 < dongs> spintel more like spin.gif
2017-10-24T12:38:11 < capacitor> yah
2017-10-24T12:38:22 < dongs> http://pbx.mine.nu/artwork/spin.gif (might be nsfw)
2017-10-24T12:38:43 < capacitor> is that your box?
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2017-10-24T12:39:10 < capacitor> dongs' meatspin archive
2017-10-24T12:39:20 < dongs> exactly
2017-10-24T12:43:57 < capacitor> good test animation for the latest dongboard yes?
2017-10-24T12:44:33 < Jak_o_Shadows> At least the whole led driver circuitry bit works
2017-10-24T12:45:16 < karlp> "might" be nsfw
2017-10-24T12:45:29 < karlp> hadn't seen that in years, ahhh, the nostalgia
2017-10-24T12:46:27 < capacitor> kakimir does LED too
2017-10-24T12:46:57 < capacitor> boost converters to drive LEDs
2017-10-24T12:47:03 < capacitor> (pro)
2017-10-24T12:49:48 < Jak_o_Shadows> probably much more than me
2017-10-24T12:49:53 < Jak_o_Shadows> I just want an alarm clock thing
2017-10-24T12:50:51 < Jak_o_Shadows> I am going to have a boost converter - the LED car headlights need 12V
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2017-10-24T13:03:24 < qyx> hrm
2017-10-24T13:03:33 < qyx> ahrdware slave management requires nss high
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2017-10-24T13:18:30 < dongs> haha i suspended lunix in vmware
2017-10-24T13:18:34 < dongs> like, paused theVM
2017-10-24T13:18:42 < dongs> forgot about it
2017-10-24T13:18:49 < dongs> unpaused it few days later (today)
2017-10-24T13:18:53 < dongs> systemDICK crashed
2017-10-24T13:18:57 < dongs> with it, took down EVERYTHING
2017-10-24T13:19:01 < dongs> ethernet is gone
2017-10-24T13:19:04 < dongs> login/su is gone
2017-10-24T13:19:15 < dongs> cant fucking do anything on the vm except hard power down
2017-10-24T13:19:17 < dongs> lol @ lunix
2017-10-24T13:19:26 < dongs> i think all of /dev was gone too
2017-10-24T13:19:44 < dongs> pottering is teh fucking best
2017-10-24T13:19:51 < dongs> he singlehandendly fucked lunix in the ass
2017-10-24T13:19:53 < BrainDamage> if systemd is gone the whole system is fucked
2017-10-24T13:19:58 < dongs> BrainDamage: i just noticed that
2017-10-24T13:20:20 < dongs> thats hilarious, how did lunix faggots ever let this happen
2017-10-24T13:20:36 < Steffanx> They dont know
2017-10-24T13:20:40 < dongs> MUH FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMS
2017-10-24T13:20:40 < BrainDamage> basically the init process is as important as the kernel, without it the kernel has no interface
2017-10-24T13:20:55 < zyp> but that goes for any init process, not just systemd
2017-10-24T13:21:06 < capacitor> well
2017-10-24T13:21:29 < dongs> zyp, init.exe in my 1996 slackware install doesn't crash when I resume the box from sleep
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2017-10-24T13:22:38 < Steffanx> Where is stvn?
2017-10-24T13:22:54 < BrainDamage> huh weird, as far as i know usually it's the kernel itself that shits the bed on resume rather than init
2017-10-24T13:23:48 < capacitor> hi Steffanx
2017-10-24T13:23:49 < capacitor> how are they
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2017-10-24T13:35:40 < Cracki> karlp, ada is even more weird. I did some ada, not enough to really start liking it.
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2017-10-24T13:43:14 < capacitor> peter
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2017-10-24T13:46:31 < capacitor> steffan murdered peter
2017-10-24T13:48:16 < Steffanx> No, you dwiepped him
2017-10-24T13:48:32 < capacitor> idk what that means
2017-10-24T13:51:04 < capacitor> shlono
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2017-10-24T13:55:06 < capacitor> fucking jews
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2017-10-24T14:06:40 < capacitor> sniff it
2017-10-24T14:09:40 < capacitor> THE POST APOCALYPTIC AUTIST
2017-10-24T14:16:23 < dongs> ha ha
2017-10-24T14:16:29 < dongs> got my spam from circutmaker
2017-10-24T14:16:43 < dongs> i registered as email+faggot@ to their shit
2017-10-24T14:16:48 < dongs> just got spam from 'rwaypcba.com'
2017-10-24T14:16:55 < dongs> with a subject: product inquiry
2017-10-24T14:17:02 < dongs> but inside was spam selling their pcb/pcba service
2017-10-24T14:21:49 < capacitor> fucking nigger
2017-10-24T14:22:07 < capacitor> circuitmaker
2017-10-24T14:22:09 < capacitor> guh
2017-10-24T14:22:45 < capacitor> people are asking me to perform miracles again
2017-10-24T14:22:52 < capacitor> do i have wings and fly around like an angel?
2017-10-24T14:24:03 < capacitor> muh chinese garbage is chinese garbage
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2017-10-24T16:11:20 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/y3UUhzs.jpg?1
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2017-10-24T16:20:11 < karlp> buy a new potato
2017-10-24T16:20:14 < karlp> are those pheasants?
2017-10-24T16:20:21 < karlp> or just geese
2017-10-24T16:20:25 < karlp> heads look funny
2017-10-24T16:21:45 < englishman> turkeys
2017-10-24T16:22:14 < englishman> cellphone cams typically suck at 100m+ tho yeah
2017-10-24T17:22:14 < Laurenceb> back to raging at HAL
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2017-10-24T18:06:44 < Laurenceb> should a usb device reply to set_configuration  ?
2017-10-24T18:07:29 < Thorn> yes definitely
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2017-10-24T18:09:28 < Thorn> you are supposed to initialize your non-0 endpoints when you receive set_configuration
2017-10-24T18:09:59 < Thorn> it's a mandatary part of enumeration
2017-10-24T18:10:33 < Thorn> if you never receive it you don't have to respond to any transfers other than standard requests afaik
2017-10-24T18:10:40 < Thorn> *mandatory
2017-10-24T18:18:40 < Laurenceb> yeah but does that result in a reply?
2017-10-24T18:19:11 < Laurenceb> with stock cubemx project, I see SetConfiguration(1) sent to endpoint 0, then nothing else
2017-10-24T18:19:21 < Laurenceb>  - after descriptors are sent
2017-10-24T18:19:28 < Laurenceb> but there are no errors shown
2017-10-24T18:20:28 < Laurenceb> oh
2017-10-24T18:20:29 < Laurenceb>  can't set config #1, error -32
2017-10-24T18:20:31 < Laurenceb> wtf
2017-10-24T18:20:44 < Thorn> yes you need to ack it
2017-10-24T18:21:04 < Thorn> send a ZLP in the status stage
2017-10-24T18:21:28 < Thorn> you need a packet level analyzer
2017-10-24T18:21:47 < Thorn> with problems like that
2017-10-24T18:22:39 < Laurenceb> ah I see it
2017-10-24T18:22:46 < Laurenceb> with discovery there is an ack
2017-10-24T18:23:02 < Laurenceb> dunno if this is because my f042 cubemx project is blank tho
2017-10-24T18:23:27 < Laurenceb> this is even more perplexing
2017-10-24T18:23:49 < Thorn> you stall it only if you receive set configuration N for some unknown N
2017-10-24T18:24:04 < Laurenceb> guess the best explanation is something spewing junk over stack
2017-10-24T18:24:21 < Laurenceb> perplexing how same code works perfectly on F4discovery
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2017-10-24T18:30:01 < Laurenceb> hahaha wtf https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2001%20of%2003/view
2017-10-24T18:30:57 < Laurenceb> >enemy agents
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2017-10-24T18:33:21 < englishman> the law mandates that all JFK assassination records must be fully declassified by 26 October 2017.
2017-10-24T18:37:45 < Laurenceb> shit just got real
2017-10-24T18:38:04 < Laurenceb> maybe JFK is still alive and wrote ST HAL
2017-10-24T18:38:46 < englishman> wow piksi gps is causing serious problems for this company
2017-10-24T18:39:01 < dongs> NO WAY?
2017-10-24T18:39:11 < Laurenceb> me checks to see if piksi guys are in the channel...
2017-10-24T18:39:25 < englishman> i wonder how much more precise L2 really is vs. multiconstellation
2017-10-24T18:39:35 < englishman> they could have put neo-m8p and be profitable by now
2017-10-24T18:40:12 < dongs> but then they wouldnt be able to sell it for $500
2017-10-24T18:40:19 < dongs> muh FPGAs
2017-10-24T18:40:54 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/82c8d1619a/52666.jpg
2017-10-24T18:48:42 < Laurenceb> Nasheed is the best music of the 21st century so far
2017-10-24T18:48:47 < Laurenceb> inshallah
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2017-10-24T19:06:42 < upgrdman> is this a bga "socket" ? https://imgur.com/a/HB1Sa
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2017-10-24T19:28:13 < englishman> is there something like windirstat for lunix
2017-10-24T19:28:20 < englishman> i can do like du -d 1 -h but it doesnt sort
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2017-10-24T19:29:50 < englishman> of course the utterly useless file picker in the "size" column only puts the number of files in that directory
2017-10-24T19:35:39 < dongs> there's literally windirstat, which was ripepd by lnix faggots from windows
2017-10-24T19:36:03 < englishman> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1463224
2017-10-24T19:36:11 < englishman> forum posts from 2010
2017-10-24T19:36:16 < englishman> im deep into liunix now
2017-10-24T19:36:21 < dongs> http://kdirstat.sourceforge.net/
2017-10-24T19:36:22 < dongs> this
2017-10-24T19:36:28 < dongs> is what was ripped from windirstat
2017-10-24T19:36:32 < englishman> 2016-01-09 Complete Rewrite
2017-10-24T19:36:45 < dongs> https://github.com/shundhammer/qdirstat yeah or this
2017-10-24T19:36:48 < dongs> typical lunix shite
2017-10-24T19:37:00 < englishman> ctrl+f download -> 0 results
2017-10-24T19:37:06 < dongs> haha good luck
2017-10-24T19:37:11 < dongs> how can you download it for lunix anyway
2017-10-24T19:37:17 < dongs> which of the 5032428 distros do you use
2017-10-24T19:37:20 < dongs> and which version
2017-10-24T19:37:24 < dongs> none of htem are binary ocmpatible
2017-10-24T19:37:27 < englishman> i dono
2017-10-24T19:37:29 < englishman> im using lunix
2017-10-24T19:37:30 < dongs> eaxctly
2017-10-24T19:37:43 < englishman> Downloads
2017-10-24T19:37:43 < englishman> Source code (zip)
2017-10-24T19:37:50 < englishman> i thnk il just wipe the drive
2017-10-24T19:38:14 < dongs> wise choice
2017-10-24T19:38:15 < englishman> probably nothing important on this computer if i installed lunix on it
2017-10-24T19:39:03 < dongs> maybe you can waste time and compile that thing from jurassic park
2017-10-24T19:39:25 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fsn_(file_manager)
2017-10-24T19:39:38 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_System_Visualizer
2017-10-24T19:39:38 < englishman> why would the gui file picker only show number of files in the "size" column
2017-10-24T19:39:40 < englishman> it makes no sense
2017-10-24T19:39:41 < dongs> does this have binaries?
2017-10-24T19:39:54 < dongs> which GUI file picker
2017-10-24T19:39:56 < dongs> GTK?
2017-10-24T19:39:57 < dongs> KDE?
2017-10-24T19:39:58 < dongs> QT?
2017-10-24T19:40:00 < dongs> XForms?
2017-10-24T19:40:04 < dongs> Xwhatevers
2017-10-24T19:40:05 < englishman> uh
2017-10-24T19:40:08 < englishman> Nemo
2017-10-24T19:40:20 < englishman> my desktop says i'm using lunix mint
2017-10-24T19:40:25 < englishman> the wallpaper image
2017-10-24T19:40:38 < dongs> thats the only thing different from jewbunto lunix
2017-10-24T19:40:42 < dongs> the wallpaper
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2017-10-24T19:56:42 < Laurenceb> hmm I might have found the bugz
2017-10-24T19:56:53 < Laurenceb> still need to fix it
2017-10-24T19:57:11 < Laurenceb> user string shit is screwy in CubeMX codez
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2017-10-24T19:57:53 < Laurenceb> leading to function pointers that are actually other variables overlapping
2017-10-24T19:58:27 < BrainDamage> englishman: if you're ok with console ncdu
2017-10-24T19:58:42 < BrainDamage> gui there's baobab and few others
2017-10-24T19:59:16 < Laurenceb> cubemx usb is cancer
2017-10-24T19:59:31 < Laurenceb> the usbd_malloc codez is especially epin
2017-10-24T19:59:37 < Laurenceb> reads like a wikipedia edit war
2017-10-24T20:12:31 < Laurenceb> attn dongs: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/24/drones_old_mens_toy/
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2017-10-24T20:12:59 < Laurenceb> > 4 per cent were female     lies
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2017-10-24T20:25:06 < englishman> i got those 65k mcd leds
2017-10-24T20:25:21 < englishman> they are indeed blinding
2017-10-24T20:27:28 < englishman> it says 50mA max If but it's taking 150mA without heating noticeably
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2017-10-24T20:29:05 < blacktronics> hey guys, what does for(;;){} do?
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2017-10-24T20:32:06 < DelvingDeeper> blacktronics why would you do that? Either its gonna hit up an error or maybe work as a shitty infinite loop. But first thought is a build error
2017-10-24T20:32:38 < blacktronics> I found it in a piece of code and didn't know what it did
2017-10-24T20:32:47 < blacktronics> needless to say, the software is super laggy
2017-10-24T20:33:48 < blacktronics> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LLPaGpOACA
2017-10-24T20:33:55 < blacktronics> its from the code of this thing
2017-10-24T20:34:56 < blacktronics> there's a download link at the bottom of the page that is linked in the description
2017-10-24T20:35:06 < DelvingDeeper> If you run the code that he provides does it work?
2017-10-24T20:35:08 < blacktronics> dont ask me what language that site is, i have no clue
2017-10-24T20:35:12 < blacktronics> yeah it runs
2017-10-24T20:35:20 < blacktronics> but it is just as sluggish as in the video
2017-10-24T20:36:31 < blacktronics> the strange for(;;) is in main.c at 181 and 245
2017-10-24T20:36:44 < blacktronics> they are the loops for the two graphs
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2017-10-24T20:39:41 < englishman> 250mA even
2017-10-24T20:39:53 < englishman> not much difference in output after 100mA tho
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2017-10-24T20:40:14 < DelvingDeeper> Yeah I'd rewrite the code, not gonna download the files and debug but use it as a base and start rewriting. for(;;) isn't something that should be used. If its an update for the graphs that should run continuously, rather put both updates in a while(1)
2017-10-24T20:41:12 < blacktronics> the complete lack of comments is enough reason for me to not even use it as a base
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2017-10-24T20:53:39 < Laurenceb> hmm no thats not the bug
2017-10-24T20:53:48 < Steffanx> awh
2017-10-24T20:53:48 < Laurenceb> maybe I should hire someone to debug ST HAL
2017-10-24T20:53:55 < Laurenceb> its a bug ridden pos
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2017-10-24T20:54:27 < Steffanx> Dont blame ST for your imperfections..
2017-10-24T20:54:41 < Laurenceb> its got 0 to do with me
2017-10-24T20:54:46 < Laurenceb> stock CubeMX shit fails
2017-10-24T20:55:10 < Laurenceb> stm32f042 audio projects dont enumerate
2017-10-24T20:57:17 < Laurenceb> 1) create stm32f042 audio project in CubeMX
2017-10-24T20:57:22 < Laurenceb> 2) flash it
2017-10-24T20:57:26 < Laurenceb> 3) epic fail
2017-10-24T20:58:05 < Steffanx> "Create project in CubeMX" ... you could've stopped there :P
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2017-10-24T21:01:25 < Laurenceb> lel
2017-10-24T21:01:34 < Laurenceb> wurk shit
2017-10-24T21:01:46 < Laurenceb> it's supposed to be CubeMX
2017-10-24T21:02:13 < Laurenceb> whats the best technique to find whats spitting nonsense all over stack?
2017-10-24T21:02:37 < blacktronics> try percussive maintenance
2017-10-24T21:02:42 < Laurenceb> I can't single step through the code as enumeration is too slow and so enumeration fails anyway
2017-10-24T21:02:44 < Laurenceb> lul
2017-10-24T21:03:41 < blacktronics> If i had an actual solution i'd tell you
2017-10-24T21:03:53 < blacktronics> heavy drinking is always an alternative though
2017-10-24T21:04:03 < Laurenceb> maybe its possible to control watchpoints from user code?
2017-10-24T21:04:23 < Laurenceb> so I could somehow have a "dynamic watchpoint" that tracked current stack pointer
2017-10-24T21:04:32 < Laurenceb> dont see how thats going to be feasible
2017-10-24T21:04:36 < Laurenceb> maybe SWO could help
2017-10-24T21:05:16 < Laurenceb> but no SWO on here
2017-10-24T21:06:34 < Laurenceb> might be faster to swap to another usb lib at this point
2017-10-24T21:07:06 < Laurenceb> HAL usb is clearly shit tier anyway
2017-10-24T21:08:24 < blacktronics> just decap the chip, probe every single bit on the die and log activity. Thank me later
2017-10-24T21:08:55 < Steffanx> I like your trolling blacktronics. Welcome to ##stm32
2017-10-24T21:09:17 < blacktronics> clearly i am not trolling, this is a feasible solution
2017-10-24T21:09:43 < Steffanx> Yeah, but you know all about probing bits and stuff, but have no clue what for(;;) does.. yeah right :P
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2017-10-24T21:10:07 < blacktronics> where am i
2017-10-24T21:10:28 < Steffanx> Must be yankeeland.
2017-10-24T21:10:40 < blacktronics> god no i am ze german
2017-10-24T21:13:20 < Steffanx> Wieso?
2017-10-24T21:13:33 < blacktronics> Wieso nicht
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2017-10-24T21:15:51 < Steffanx> How's your eclipse adventure going blacktronics?
2017-10-24T21:16:03 < blacktronics> fuck that cunt
2017-10-24T21:16:22 < blacktronics> Thanks for the welcome though, i'm not exactly joining though, i'm invading
2017-10-24T21:16:43 < Steffanx> Are you ticklish?
2017-10-24T21:16:49 < blacktronics> very
2017-10-24T21:17:15 < Laurenceb> no homo
2017-10-24T21:17:24 < Laurenceb> anyone here worked with st hal usb before?
2017-10-24T21:17:39 < blacktronics> Steffanx: are you talking about the whole µGFX endeavour?
2017-10-24T21:18:18 < Steffanx> lol, you are like the only who that writes µGFX and not ugfx
2017-10-24T21:18:36 < Steffanx> but i dont know, i hardly remember what it was about
2017-10-24T21:18:45 < blacktronics> i am impressed you remember at all
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2017-10-24T21:19:48 < Steffanx> The wellbeing of the people in ##stm32 is very important, blacktronics
2017-10-24T21:19:59 < blacktronics> I find it less effort to type µ than reaching up to the u
2017-10-24T21:20:24 < Steffanx> Must be a mac-user.
2017-10-24T21:20:26 < Laurenceb> this is perplexing
2017-10-24T21:20:37 < blacktronics> I agree, which is why i propose free coffee for everyone
2017-10-24T21:20:38 < Laurenceb> sometimes stack doesnt seem to be overwritten with nonsense
2017-10-24T21:20:39 < englishman> Laurenceb: yea
2017-10-24T21:20:45 < englishman> i made a hid gayme controller
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2017-10-24T21:21:09 < Laurenceb> englishman: https://pastebin.com/kLkcbj2V
2017-10-24T21:21:15 < Steffanx> You did that with cube englishman?!
2017-10-24T21:21:18 < Laurenceb> what do you make of that, anything obviously bad?
2017-10-24T21:21:28 < englishman> yes cube
2017-10-24T21:21:29 < englishman> very easy
2017-10-24T21:21:38 < englishman> was like 4-5 hours total
2017-10-24T21:21:41 < Laurenceb> yeah it is very easy to use
2017-10-24T21:21:41 < Steffanx> Can you make Laurenceb a audio device please?
2017-10-24T21:21:47 < Steffanx> *an
2017-10-24T21:21:53 < Laurenceb> then 4 months of fixing the hal bugs
2017-10-24T21:21:57 < englishman> no, he's silly for making an audio device
2017-10-24T21:22:01 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: it took me about 4 hours too
2017-10-24T21:22:06 < Steffanx> Yes that too.
2017-10-24T21:22:27 < Steffanx> but you said it didnt work Laurenceb.. ?!
2017-10-24T21:22:35 < Laurenceb> its works fine on F4
2017-10-24T21:22:40 < Laurenceb> *it
2017-10-24T21:22:46 < blacktronics> I love the sarcastic passive agressive attitude, i should hang around here more often
2017-10-24T21:23:14 < Steffanx> We've been together for YEAARs blacktronics. That's what happens in a relationship right?
2017-10-24T21:24:08 < blacktronics> Depends, there's a good chance it ends in nuclear warfare
2017-10-24T21:24:24 < Laurenceb> dev_state = 3 thats CONFIGURED according to the header
2017-10-24T21:24:28 < Steffanx> And when it all gets too crazy we duct-tape Laurenceb's mouth to make him shut up.
2017-10-24T21:25:05 < blacktronics> nothing wrong with duct taping some mouths ofc
2017-10-24T21:34:53 < Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41693437
2017-10-24T21:35:26 < Laurenceb> 00:33 feeding tiem
2017-10-24T21:35:46 < Laurenceb> troll status: fed
2017-10-24T21:40:00 < branjb> anyone recommend a BT dongle?
2017-10-24T21:40:11 < branjb> just doing serial over BT
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2017-10-24T21:44:38 < emeryth> the flat one that says CSR 4.0
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2017-10-24T22:09:44 < blacktronics> Laurenceb: lol
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2017-10-24T22:29:01 < Laurenceb> hmf
2017-10-24T22:29:09 < Laurenceb> been stuck on this for a week now
2017-10-24T22:29:15 < Laurenceb> totally out of ideas :(
2017-10-24T22:32:03 < Laurenceb> is there an F042 with SWO ?
2017-10-24T22:32:52 < emeryth> no
2017-10-24T22:33:29 < Laurenceb> I'm out of luck then
2017-10-24T22:33:39 < Laurenceb> maybe tiem for an F4 version of the hardware
2017-10-24T22:34:18 < emeryth> F3 is a straight upgrade from F0
2017-10-24T22:34:35 < englishman> f3 can also be a downgrade depending on what you need
2017-10-24T22:35:15 < upgrdman> branjb, i've used the HC05. it works. nothing special. http://www.farrellf.com/temp/first2layerPcb.jpg
2017-10-24T22:35:41 < upgrdman> branjb, and corresponding test code: https://github.com/farrellf/Servo_Tester/blob/master/main.c#L56
2017-10-24T22:36:32 < upgrdman> not sure why i called it rs232 though. it's uart, not rs232 levels.
2017-10-24T22:36:54 < branjb> upgrdman i'm basically trying to do exactly what you did in that video, need telemtry data and PID gain adjustment over wireless serial
2017-10-24T22:37:01 < branjb> thanks
2017-10-24T22:37:04 < upgrdman> sure
2017-10-24T22:37:37 < branjb> PID for angle holding works great, it's really tricky tuning a cascaded PID for angle + speed control though
2017-10-24T22:37:43 < upgrdman> i used the cc2500 module for my telemetry, but ya, bluetooth would be easier. only drawbakc is bluetooth is connection-oriented, so if reception is bad it becomes a pain in the ass.
2017-10-24T22:38:15 < upgrdman> o wait no, i use hc05 for telemetry and cc2500 for remote control
2017-10-24T22:38:32 < upgrdman> but only did telemetry indoors
2017-10-24T22:38:42 < branjb> ah
2017-10-24T22:38:58 < branjb> i'm just gonna do telemtry and control on one connection
2017-10-24T22:39:05 < upgrdman> ya
2017-10-24T22:39:07 < branjb> just need to demonstrate the control algorithm
2017-10-24T22:39:15 < branjb> indoors, in a room, 5 ft from laptop
2017-10-24T22:47:36 < Laurenceb> arg wtf
2017-10-24T22:47:46 < Laurenceb> fixed it, F0 usb != F4 usb
2017-10-24T22:48:04 < Laurenceb> endpoint in init code needed to be in a different order
2017-10-24T22:48:04 < Steffanx> Did you really just run F4 code on F0?
2017-10-24T22:48:07 < Laurenceb> no
2017-10-24T22:48:19 < Laurenceb> I ran CubeMX code
2017-10-24T22:48:31 < Laurenceb> but it breaks with usb IN endpoints on F0
2017-10-24T22:48:48 < Laurenceb> F4 also breaks
2017-10-24T22:48:58 < Laurenceb> but the fix is different for F0 versus F4
2017-10-24T22:49:00 < Steffanx> but you generated the code for f0 right?
2017-10-24T22:49:15 < Laurenceb> I was applying patches, but needed to tweak the patch
2017-10-24T22:49:18 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-24T22:49:41 < Laurenceb> good news is that it looks like F0 usb has less lag
2017-10-24T22:49:54 < Laurenceb> F4 audio has an annoying 1 frame lag
2017-10-24T22:50:02 < Laurenceb> it seems to have gone
2017-10-24T22:50:56 < Steffanx> So just for me. You generated some audio device using cube, didnt change it and it didnt run?
2017-10-24T22:50:57 < Laurenceb> hal usb is still a clusterfuck
2017-10-24T22:51:25 < Laurenceb> yeah its endpoint config was screwy
2017-10-24T22:51:40 < Laurenceb> it looks like it runs, but when you put in actual handler code it breaks
2017-10-24T22:52:00 < Laurenceb> ppl have made patch files to fix hal for F4, but the patch needed tweaking for f0
2017-10-24T22:52:27 < Laurenceb> f0 usb seems to buffer less, the source of the issue and also good news for my application
2017-10-24T22:52:39 < Steffanx> Better blog about your solution
2017-10-24T22:52:40 < Steffanx> :P
2017-10-24T22:53:08 < Laurenceb> nah, it seems like nobody wants usb audio
2017-10-24T22:56:50 < Steffanx> What patch are you talking about for F4?
2017-10-24T22:57:00 < Steffanx> Link to such patch?
2017-10-24T22:58:19 < Laurenceb> emailz
2017-10-24T22:58:38 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/cnWhMR4i
2017-10-24T22:58:49 < Laurenceb> ^works for adding IN endpoint that works reliably on F4
2017-10-24T22:59:54 < Laurenceb> ST devs can't even read usb spec
2017-10-24T23:00:02 < zyp> heh
2017-10-24T23:00:24 < Laurenceb> line 447
2017-10-24T23:01:40 < zyp> Laurenceb, making progress?
2017-10-24T23:02:04 < Laurenceb> yes, just need to faff with my debug bits and pieces and all the lockups etc should now be fixed
2017-10-24T23:02:34 < Laurenceb> need to add calibration support and maybe some better descriptor strings
2017-10-24T23:03:05 < Laurenceb> badly need an automated way to calibrate gyroscope sensitivity
2017-10-24T23:03:24 < Laurenceb> maybe stepper motor + bracket
2017-10-24T23:03:30 < Laurenceb> inb4 zano
2017-10-24T23:03:38 < zyp> haha
2017-10-24T23:04:13 < Laurenceb> in my case its actually needed as these sensors are for v accurate determination of vehicle body orientation changes
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2017-10-24T23:34:21 < zyp> karlp, oh, by the way, you mentioned the expanse before
2017-10-24T23:34:29 < zyp> I started reading the first book the other day
2017-10-24T23:34:46 < zyp> so I should be able to tell you if the books are worth reading soon
2017-10-24T23:34:57 < zyp> still won't know how they compare to the series just yet though
2017-10-24T23:35:51  * blacktronics lurks in the shadow
2017-10-24T23:37:31 < qyx> I cannot receive correct bytes using spi slave :S
2017-10-24T23:37:54 < zyp> have you tried receiving the wrong bytes instead?
2017-10-24T23:38:00 < qyx> all the time
2017-10-24T23:38:11 < zyp> what's the problem?
2017-10-24T23:38:16 < zyp> or rather, what's the symptoms?
2017-10-24T23:38:18 < qyx> don't know acually
2017-10-24T23:38:21 < qyx> cpol and cpha is ok
2017-10-24T23:38:56 < qyx> the signal looks ok on the scope
2017-10-24T23:40:01 < ohsix> boogers
2017-10-24T23:40:12 < qyx> receiving 00151240 01010101 12c00005
2017-10-24T23:40:21 < qyx> instead of 12344000 01010101 01010101
2017-10-24T23:42:09 < zyp> what do you have the clock divider set to?
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2017-10-24T23:43:31 < kikes> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKR0QyNjNHZEViT0E/view?usp=sharing 2meter balloons
2017-10-24T23:43:39 < kikes> filled with hydrogen
2017-10-24T23:43:46 < qyx> both are div/16
2017-10-24T23:43:56 < qyx> master is running at 16MHz
2017-10-24T23:43:59 < qyx> slave at 60MHz
2017-10-24T23:44:39 < zyp> hmm, guess it doesn't matter in slave mode anyway
2017-10-24T23:44:51 < qyx> if I ignore the middle
2017-10-24T23:44:54 < zyp> which chip is this?
2017-10-24T23:45:03 < qyx> it just looks shifted
2017-10-24T23:45:07 < qyx> and mangled a bit
2017-10-24T23:45:25 < qyx> otherwise both sent and received data have the same number of bit transitions
2017-10-24T23:46:04 < qyx> master is F401, slave F303
2017-10-24T23:46:37 < qyx> sent 00010010001101000100000000000000 received  00000000000101010001001001000000
2017-10-24T23:46:55 < zyp> you've got NSS hooked up?
2017-10-24T23:47:11 < qyx> or maybe not the same number of transitions
2017-10-24T23:47:13 < qyx> yep
2017-10-24T23:47:23 < qyx> bidimode = 1
2017-10-24T23:47:36 < qyx> basically it is a microwire style bus
2017-10-24T23:47:49 < zyp> hmm
2017-10-24T23:48:13 < zyp> so only one signal line, not MISO/MOSI?
2017-10-24T23:48:21 < qyx> yes
2017-10-24T23:48:39 < qyx> but atm I am trying only a single direction
2017-10-24T23:48:41 < zyp> and they agree on who's sender and who's receiver? do they switch around?
2017-10-24T23:48:47 < qyx> not now
2017-10-24T23:48:47 < zyp> okay
2017-10-24T23:49:02 < qyx> signal is uncorrupted on the scope
2017-10-24T23:49:07 < zyp> how does that work, do you use MISO on one and MOSI on the other or same on both?
2017-10-24T23:49:21 < qyx> yes and no
2017-10-24T23:49:31 < qyx> bidimode uses only mosi on the master and miso on the slave
2017-10-24T23:49:50 < qyx> but I didn't know that when I did the schematic
2017-10-24T23:49:56 < qyx> so mosi and miso is tied together
2017-10-24T23:50:10 < qyx> although the spi periph releases the unused pin
2017-10-24T23:50:17 < qyx> in bidimode
2017-10-24T23:50:18 < zyp> okay
2017-10-24T23:51:26 < qyx> trying different cpol/cpha gives me other patters
2017-10-24T23:51:36 < qyx> but they are still repeatable and stable
2017-10-24T23:52:29 < qyx> so I am suspecting the F303 slave is sampling the data line at the wrong time
2017-10-24T23:53:50 < zyp> how do you have MOSI configured in GPIO on the slave?
2017-10-24T23:54:07 < qyx> AF mode, no pull
2017-10-24T23:54:12 < qyx> aha on the slave
2017-10-24T23:54:18 < qyx> the same actually
2017-10-24T23:54:26 < Laurenceb> void HAL_PCD_SetupStageCallback(PCD_HandleTypeDef *hpcd)
2017-10-24T23:54:26 < Laurenceb> {
2017-10-24T23:54:26 < Laurenceb>   USBD_LL_SetupStage((USBD_HandleTypeDef*)hpcd->pData, (uint8_t *)hpcd->Setup);
2017-10-24T23:54:34 < zyp> try leaving it as a floating input
2017-10-24T23:55:01 < Laurenceb> USBD_ParseSetupRequest(&pdev->request, psetup);
2017-10-24T23:55:04 < Laurenceb> wtf st hal
2017-10-24T23:55:19 < Laurenceb> they are totally incoherent causing intermittend hard faults
2017-10-24T23:55:57 < ohsix> wat about subtended hard faults
2017-10-24T23:56:14 < Laurenceb> looks like they forgot if they are supposed to be passing data or handles
2017-10-24T23:56:29 < Laurenceb> yay moar fixes tomorrow
2017-10-24T23:56:34 < qyx> zyp: doesn't help
2017-10-24T23:56:43 < qyx> something is reading 16bits and outputting only 8
2017-10-24T23:56:52 < qyx> frame format is configured correctly afaik
2017-10-24T23:57:00 < qyx> and shifting the clock
2017-10-24T23:57:11 < Laurenceb> @param  pdev: device instance
2017-10-24T23:57:16 < qyx> ok, thanks for suggestions, continuing tomorrow
2017-10-24T23:57:17 < qyx> gn
2017-10-24T23:57:18 < Laurenceb> do they even read their own documentation
2017-10-24T23:57:24 < Laurenceb> wow
2017-10-24T23:58:10 < Laurenceb> thats probably whats screwing with my stack
2017-10-24T23:58:19 < zyp> heh
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2017-10-24T23:59:10 < Laurenceb> I think whoever was writing this has ADHD and tried to write half the called functions functionality inside the caller
2017-10-24T23:59:36 < blacktronics> kikes: pure Hydrogen or Oxyhydrogen?
2017-10-24T23:59:55 < Laurenceb> home tiem, moar hal funs tomorrow
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2017-10-25T00:00:28 < zyp> the TI RM4 HAL uses uint32s for ethernet mac handles
2017-10-25T00:00:47 < kikes> H2
2017-10-25T00:00:50 < zyp> and there's a couple of different blocks there, so you have different functions taking different handles
2017-10-25T00:01:03 < kikes> https://www.facebook.com/antti.pendikainen/videos/1752802204732504/ 1:28:00 forward is launch
2017-10-25T00:01:05 < zyp> all as uint32, so you don't get a type conflict if you pass the wrong one
2017-10-25T00:01:08 < zyp> that's fucking stupid
2017-10-25T00:01:21 < zyp> (I hit that one last week)
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2017-10-25T00:01:42 < blacktronics> kikes: fun, but not as much fun as the perfect mixture hehe
2017-10-25T00:02:35 < kikes> it would not fly
2017-10-25T00:02:42 < kikes> too good
2017-10-25T00:02:45 < kikes> or at all
2017-10-25T00:03:14 < jadew> is the TL866A the best (for the money) EEPROM programmer available?
2017-10-25T00:04:50 < capacitor> peak hour for pumping in ##stm32
2017-10-25T00:05:11 < zyp> jadew, do you expect a serious answer to that?
2017-10-25T00:05:34 < blacktronics> kikes: it does quite well actually
2017-10-25T00:05:35 < jadew> zyp, yeah, why? it's crap?
2017-10-25T00:05:44 < blacktronics> kikes: literally been there done that
2017-10-25T00:06:26 < zyp> jadew, no, I just don't think a lot of people have opinions on eeprom programmers in 2017, apart from «wtf would you use that for?»
2017-10-25T00:06:40 < jadew> ah
2017-10-25T00:06:52 < sync> jadew: I have one, it works gr8 m8
2017-10-25T00:07:02 < blacktronics> zyp: they make for excellent paperweights, or firestarters
2017-10-25T00:07:11 < jadew> I found myself needing one on several occasions so I figured I should buy one instead of improvising one every time
2017-10-25T00:07:25 < jadew> sync, good to know, thanks
2017-10-25T00:07:45 < sync> and it is cheap enough just to have one on hand
2017-10-25T00:07:51 < sync> but get the one with all the adapters
2017-10-25T00:07:56 < sync> they are somehow spendy as hiet
2017-10-25T00:07:58 < sync> +s
2017-10-25T00:08:06 < jadew> yeah, I know
2017-10-25T00:08:17 < capacitor> my eeprom programmer works, so i changed all the electrolytic capacitors
2017-10-25T00:08:40 < blacktronics> the adapters make them more suitable for throwing them at your colleagues at a later point, more mass and wha
2017-10-25T00:11:41 < kikes> blacktronics, you have done that too?
2017-10-25T00:11:52 < Steffanx> blacktronics its time to sleep
2017-10-25T00:11:53 < blacktronics> done what?
2017-10-25T00:12:01 < karlp> englishman: du -h | sort -h for cli shit, or "disk usage analyser" or "baobab" (same thing, windows-key and type "disk usage" will make it come up in any "recent" "common" distro
2017-10-25T00:12:03 < capacitor> good morning steffan
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2017-10-25T00:12:46 < Steffanx> Hello steven
2017-10-25T00:12:51 < jadew> this is what I end up doing when I have to read an eeprom: http://86.120.117.227/stuff/eeprom-programmer.jpg
2017-10-25T00:12:54 < capacitor> thankyou
2017-10-25T00:13:07 < blacktronics> Steffanx: do we know eachother?
2017-10-25T00:13:36 < Steffanx> Maybe?
2017-10-25T00:13:46 < Steffanx> Are you from the netherlands?
2017-10-25T00:14:35 < blacktronics> nah i am from germany, but i go to drugland fairly frequently
2017-10-25T00:15:49 < ohsix> jadew: fx2 + python? the dev board is like 4$
2017-10-25T00:15:54 < ohsix> can't write with that tho
2017-10-25T00:16:00 < englishman> thanks karl, but i already wiped the drive
2017-10-25T00:16:06 < Steffanx> Highly unlikely then. I dont do drugs, blacktronics
2017-10-25T00:16:08 < jadew> ohsix, I don't think it has enough IOs
2017-10-25T00:16:19 < capacitor> welcome englishman
2017-10-25T00:16:26 < englishman> hi cap
2017-10-25T00:17:06 < capacitor> what up
2017-10-25T00:17:57 < karlp> qyx: f3 spi, differently to f4 spi, has that quirk where it does 8 or 16bits depending on how you write to the data register.
2017-10-25T00:18:07 < karlp> sounds like that's what you might be hitting.
2017-10-25T00:18:28 < blacktronics> Steffanx:  i rarely do either, but can't go to NL without having at least tried
2017-10-25T00:18:50 < blacktronics> i just have a good amount of friends there
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2017-10-25T00:29:14 < Rob235> good, more drugs for me
2017-10-25T00:37:39 < karlp> I thought you'd been trying to quit?
2017-10-25T00:38:28 < blacktronics> he is just trying to reduce the amount of lines
2017-10-25T00:41:32 < Rob235> who me? I quit smoking months ago, I haven't drank in months, just on a low dose of methadone and thats it
2017-10-25T00:41:50 < zyp> karlp, he's reading, not writing
2017-10-25T00:42:28 < zyp> though, I wouldn't put it past ST to exhibit weird behavior when doing a 16-bit read with only one byte in the FIFO
2017-10-25T00:43:58 < ohsix> just a low dose of dick and that's it
2017-10-25T00:44:16 < karlp> zyp: just sounded soooo similar
2017-10-25T00:44:20 < Rob235> high dose of that, orally three times a day
2017-10-25T00:44:24 < karlp> perhaps his master was doing the error?
2017-10-25T00:44:33 < karlp> oh, he said it was correct on teh scope though wasn'ðt it
2017-10-25T00:44:35 < zyp> he said bits on bus looked right
2017-10-25T00:45:10 < Rob235> suppository as needed
2017-10-25T00:45:50 < Rob235> anyone try the new south park game? I havent watched the show in years but the first game was fun as hell
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2017-10-25T00:53:34 < ohsix> there isn't really going to be anything that makes it suck if you liked the first one
2017-10-25T00:53:38 < ohsix> got it around but haven't played it
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2017-10-25T01:09:29 < ohsix> Embedded Systems Design with Special Arithmetic and Number Systems
2017-10-25T01:09:33 < ohsix> nice
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2017-10-25T01:16:55 < ohsix>  found small goldmine in weird books in this subject area
2017-10-25T01:17:27 < ohsix> https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=Logarithmic+number+system and so far, they've all been on library genesis
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2017-10-25T01:41:40 < upgrdman> oh neat. the newest version of win10 added gpu usage % to the task manager
2017-10-25T01:42:20 < upgrdman> or maybe im just now noticing. they also added a column that shows which gpu is used, guessing for laptops with igpu+dgpu
2017-10-25T01:54:25 < karlp> igpu+dgpu?
2017-10-25T01:59:22 < upgrdman> integrated and discrete
2017-10-25T01:59:33 < upgrdman> e.g. intel + nvidia
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2017-10-25T02:50:29 < ohsix> upgrdman: it's done that for a while, tho i dunno if it's in the default column headers
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2017-10-25T03:01:19 < upgrdman> ohsix, o ok
2017-10-25T03:02:17 < ohsix> process explorer has done it since vista i think
2017-10-25T03:02:31 < ohsix> whichever version got gpu command scheduling
2017-10-25T03:03:50 < ohsix> people using osx seem to know to use the gpu tab for power stuff, but i can't say i've seen anyone try and save power explicitly with winderz
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2017-10-25T03:38:37 < dongs> upgrdman: yeah, i just clean installed 1709 on my dell
2017-10-25T03:38:46 < dongs> gpu tab is new in falls cretin update
2017-10-25T03:38:52 < upgrdman> ya
2017-10-25T03:39:06 < dongs> it does show gpu0/gpu1 or sometims gpu1/gpu2
2017-10-25T03:39:14 < dongs> one thing that pises me off is nightlight is disabled now for some reason
2017-10-25T03:39:20 < upgrdman> i just see gpu1 on my surface bro iirc
2017-10-25T03:39:28 < upgrdman> but i have no dgpu so ya
2017-10-25T03:39:43 < dongs> yeah, gpu1 on fagbook with intel iris shit on it.
2017-10-25T03:39:46 < upgrdman> i never used nightlight. did you like it?
2017-10-25T03:39:56 < dongs> yes, its awesome its always on all myscreen
2017-10-25T03:40:06 < dongs> (even during daytime)
2017-10-25T03:40:15 < dongs> i prefer warmer gamma/colors than the blueshit
2017-10-25T03:40:30 < upgrdman> i thought you were mr high-quality-rgb-backlight... and you intentionally dick with your colors that much? lol
2017-10-25T03:41:07 < dongs> yeah, and high-quality-rgb-backlight makes that warm much warmer :p
2017-10-25T03:41:13 < upgrdman> :)
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2017-10-25T03:48:08 < Laurenceb_> oh noes
2017-10-25T03:48:09 < Laurenceb_> https://makerfairederby.com/
2017-10-25T03:48:19 < dongs> derby? more like derpy
2017-10-25T03:48:20 < Laurenceb_> even I can't escape from the maker scum
2017-10-25T03:48:22 < Laurenceb_> yes
2017-10-25T03:49:39 < Laurenceb_> https://makerfairederby.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/img_4071.jpg
2017-10-25T03:49:46 < Laurenceb_> back left is typical maker
2017-10-25T03:52:15 < Laurenceb_> the 50 year old virgin https://makerfairederby.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/img_4077.jpg
2017-10-25T03:55:09 < Laurenceb_> >  Derby Silk Mill – the site of the World’s First Factory!
2017-10-25T03:55:31 < Laurenceb_> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/061/294/1106514-cool_story_bro_super.jpg
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2017-10-25T03:58:31 < Laurenceb_> anyways
2017-10-25T03:58:33 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/fboris/STM32Cube_FW_F4/blob/master/Projects/STM324xG_EVAL/Applications/USB_Device/HID_Standalone/Src/usbd_conf.c
2017-10-25T03:58:40 < Laurenceb_> line 217: wtf
2017-10-25T03:59:20 < Laurenceb_> USBD_StatusTypeDef 	USBD_LL_SetupStage (USBD_HandleTypeDef *pdev, uint8_t *psetup)
2017-10-25T03:59:42 < dongs> lol mixing LL and hal
2017-10-25T03:59:42 < dongs> gg
2017-10-25T04:02:02 < Laurenceb_> but why the fuck are they passing a pData pointer
2017-10-25T04:02:41 < Laurenceb_> this same code seems to cause intermittent hard faults and stack corruption
2017-10-25T04:04:37 < Laurenceb_> hmm
2017-10-25T04:04:44 < Laurenceb_> pData is a void pointer
2017-10-25T04:05:01 < Laurenceb_> maybe its designed to be used that way and some high level code is failing
2017-10-25T04:09:02 < Laurenceb_> (#)Associate the Upper USB device stack to the HAL PCD Driver:
2017-10-25T04:09:03 < Laurenceb_> (##) hpcd.pData = pdev;
2017-10-25T04:09:07 < Laurenceb_> weird construction
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2017-10-25T04:27:28 < upgrdman> https://makerfairederby.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/img_4081.jpg    lol
2017-10-25T04:27:55 < dongs> fucking dongs
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2017-10-25T04:53:58 < dongs> wow what the shit
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2017-10-25T04:54:11 < dongs> there's SOT-89-<morethan3pins> packages
2017-10-25T04:54:33 < dongs> http://www.njr.com/semicon/PDF/package/SOT-89-5-2_E.pdf
2017-10-25T04:54:36 < dongs> i.e shit like this
2017-10-25T04:54:37 < dongs> fucking japs
2017-10-25T04:55:57 < upgrdman> ya i've seen lots of those
2017-10-25T04:56:19 < upgrdman> iirc rohm does lots of those, and toshiba
2017-10-25T04:56:28 < dongs> > fucking japs
2017-10-25T04:57:01 < upgrdman> yes
2017-10-25T04:57:13 < dongs> man what the hell this customer board is retarded fail
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2017-10-25T06:01:46 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S44YKdc3G3U
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2017-10-25T06:20:17 < dongs> sup
2017-10-25T06:20:37 < dongs> yeah
2017-10-25T06:20:43 < dongs> i just ordered 5k boards from them
2017-10-25T06:20:50 < dongs> for a customer who didnt give a fuck about quality
2017-10-25T06:20:56 < dongs> its gonna be like 50kg of shit when done
2017-10-25T06:21:03 < dongs> and i trolled them into free stencil
2017-10-25T06:21:27 < dongs> framed? no
2017-10-25T06:21:42 < dongs> but even if it was $15
2017-10-25T06:21:46 < dongs> it doesnt amtter because its $0 to me
2017-10-25T06:23:08 < englishman> englishman> found pic of R2COM http://i.magaimg.net/img/1o0r.jpg
2017-10-25T06:26:03 < dongs> 'murican with guns
2017-10-25T06:27:57 < blacktronics> I'm lacking guns in general
2017-10-25T06:28:37 < blacktronics> i agree
2017-10-25T06:28:50 < blacktronics> they would be such a quick way to end my suffering
2017-10-25T06:30:25 < dongs> step1: install lunix
2017-10-25T06:30:31 < dongs> step2: you will want to kill yourself
2017-10-25T06:30:40 < blacktronics> i think giving up programming is one way to end suffering
2017-10-25T06:30:55 < dongs> just check out englishman's rageblogging from last night
2017-10-25T06:31:22 < englishman> i fixed the problem by deleting lunix
2017-10-25T06:32:17 < blacktronics> yeah i have been enjoying Win10 ever since i destroyed windows update while fisting the registry
2017-10-25T06:33:09 < dongs> ?
2017-10-25T06:34:24 < blacktronics> it was a happy accident
2017-10-25T06:34:43 < blacktronics> it wasn't why is was messing with the registry
2017-10-25T06:34:50 < blacktronics> I*
2017-10-25T06:35:18 < blacktronics> my phrasing follows my soul
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2017-10-25T10:05:40 < ohsix> sup
2017-10-25T10:26:45 < ohsix> englishman: wat were you doing with a lunix
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2017-10-25T11:12:21 < ohsix> need a thing that turns photoshop color map files into c
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2017-10-25T11:25:09 < qyx> karlp: was that. and not emptying the fifo after disabling
2017-10-25T11:28:50 < zyp> the read size?
2017-10-25T11:56:52 < qyx> yes, only halv of bytes was read
2017-10-25T11:57:03 < qyx> and there was agarbage at the beginning left from the previous transfer
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2017-10-25T12:38:25 < karlp> qyx: whee
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2017-10-25T17:11:36 < jadew> damn... the walking dead is still going
2017-10-25T17:18:16 < dfgg> is still walking?
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2017-10-25T17:26:15 < daey> theres even a spinoff. i doubt its dying anytime soon
2017-10-25T17:34:36 < jadew> I'm tempted to watch it - I want to know why it's still on
2017-10-25T17:35:17 < daey> its like a soap opera with murder at this point
2017-10-25T17:35:39 < daey> zombies dont even matter anymore. they never did :P
2017-10-25T17:36:10 < jadew> ah
2017-10-25T17:36:58 < daey> you could jsut as well start with "fear the walking dead". basically the same, but less episodes because its newer
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2017-10-25T17:38:47 < karlp> the first seasons are great, definitely worth a watch
2017-10-25T17:39:32 < jadew> I saw the first one + a bit from the second one
2017-10-25T17:39:37 < jadew> but I don't remember it
2017-10-25T17:39:43 < jadew> I'll give it a go again
2017-10-25T17:51:23 < Laurenceb> are isochronous usb endpoints polled by the host?
2017-10-25T17:54:21 < karlp> it's usb, so yes, of course, that's how usb works numnuts
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2017-10-25T18:00:51 < fenugrec> looks like someone should've spent a day reading the USB spec instead of a week of mud wrestling with HAL
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2017-10-25T18:01:34 < fenugrec> or yeah, that too
2017-10-25T18:04:29 < karlp> nah, the words have spaces between them, lolrence can't read that.
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2017-10-25T18:07:11 < Laurenceb> top trawl
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2017-10-25T18:10:51 < Laurenceb> now SetInterface is giving Status -32
2017-10-25T18:11:09 < Laurenceb> but only after the lunix has read 5s of data
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2017-10-25T18:24:02 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-25T18:24:06 < Laurenceb> something breaks in HAL
2017-10-25T18:24:20 < Laurenceb> class functions are no longer linked to the rest of the driver code
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2017-10-25T18:26:32 < Laurenceb> how come F4 isnt marketed for usb device use, yet its much less buggy than F0 usb
2017-10-25T18:26:46 < Laurenceb> shit just works on F4
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2017-10-25T18:32:38 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/v2Muzw5
2017-10-25T18:32:51 < Laurenceb> I wonder if the -104 shit is causing the issues
2017-10-25T18:33:15 < Laurenceb> I get the same message on F4, but its not followed by -32, and the usb still works fine
2017-10-25T18:33:28 < karlp> nahhhhhh couldn't possibly be that the first error might actuallybe an error you shoudl oook at
2017-10-25T18:33:31 < Thorn> EP1IN TRAWL
2017-10-25T18:33:44 < karlp> reckon he'll finish it by christmas?
2017-10-25T18:33:58 < Laurenceb> I have 9 months
2017-10-25T18:34:00 < Laurenceb> so no
2017-10-25T18:34:11 < Thorn> you could write your own usb stack in 3 weeks
2017-10-25T18:34:21 < Laurenceb> hmm nice plan
2017-10-25T18:34:24 < Thorn> it would be shit but it would work
2017-10-25T18:34:43 < Thorn> and you would know it inside out
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2017-10-25T18:36:45 < Laurenceb> #define ECONNRESET  104 /* Connection reset by peer */
2017-10-25T18:36:48 < Laurenceb> literally wut
2017-10-25T18:36:53 < karlp> idiot.
2017-10-25T18:37:40 < Laurenceb> how so?
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2017-10-25T18:41:42 < Laurenceb> what even is a peer?
2017-10-25T18:41:49 < Laurenceb> surely there is host and device
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2017-10-25T18:46:35 < Laurenceb> also why are there 12 errors
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2017-10-25T18:54:44 < zyp> Laurenceb, all endpoint types are polled in the same way, the difference is in how the host schedules polling and some handshaking stuff
2017-10-25T18:55:06 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-25T18:55:14 < zyp> e.g. iso is not acked since lost packets won't be retransmitted anyway
2017-10-25T18:55:20 < Laurenceb> ah
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2017-10-25T18:55:51 < Laurenceb> I think something must be wrong with my handling of DataIn
2017-10-25T18:56:03 < Laurenceb> ●
2017-10-25T18:56:04 < Laurenceb> DataIn
2017-10-25T18:56:04 < Laurenceb> : This callback is called to
2017-10-25T18:56:04 < Laurenceb> perform the data in stage relative to the non-control
2017-10-25T18:56:04 < Laurenceb> endpoints.
2017-10-25T18:57:01 < Laurenceb> my handler contains
2017-10-25T18:57:02 < Laurenceb> USBD_LL_Transmit(pdev, epnum, (uint8_t*)mic_data, AUDIO_IN_PACKET_SIZE);
2017-10-25T18:57:03 < zyp> the data in endpoint indicates tx complete, doesn't it?
2017-10-25T18:57:12 < Laurenceb> aiui yes
2017-10-25T18:57:27 < Laurenceb> actually there is also
2017-10-25T18:57:29 < Laurenceb> ●
2017-10-25T18:57:29 < Laurenceb> EP0_TxSent
2017-10-25T18:57:29 < Laurenceb> : This callback is called when the send status is finished
2017-10-25T18:57:34 < Laurenceb> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/user_manual/cf/38/e5/b5/dd/1d/4c/09/DM00108129.pdf/files/DM00108129.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00108129.pdf
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2017-10-25T18:57:40 < Laurenceb> page 28
2017-10-25T18:58:12 < Thorn> >non-control vs. >EP0
2017-10-25T18:59:20 < Thorn> "relative to the non-control endpoints"
2017-10-25T18:59:23 < Thorn> the dev was top of his Engrish class
2017-10-25T18:59:53 < Laurenceb> oh yeah
2017-10-25T19:00:58 < Laurenceb> more importantly, why is it EP1 IN not EP129
2017-10-25T19:02:01 < karlp> somet hings use combined addr+direction, some don't
2017-10-25T19:02:03 < zyp> because there's 7 bits for addr and one bit for direction
2017-10-25T19:02:07 < Laurenceb> ah
2017-10-25T19:02:10 < karlp> just need to make sure which is being used where
2017-10-25T19:02:40 < karlp> some things will cleverly use the part they care about if you always pass the combined, some won't...
2017-10-25T19:02:48 < zyp> well, the bus tokens itself only have four bits for addr IIRC
2017-10-25T19:02:49 < Laurenceb> so it looks to me like something is wrong with my handling of DataIn
2017-10-25T19:03:17 < zyp> so any time you have endpoints numbered higher than 15, something weird is going on :p
2017-10-25T19:03:23 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-25T19:04:40 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/re8deRTN
2017-10-25T19:06:03 < Laurenceb> will this be called each time the host polls?
2017-10-25T19:06:35 < Thorn> no
2017-10-25T19:06:57 < Thorn> when host polls the controller send data that are ready to be sent by that time
2017-10-25T19:07:01 < zyp> yes
2017-10-25T19:07:13 < Thorn> *sends
2017-10-25T19:07:38 < zyp> you need to initially call USBD_LL_Transmit() somewhere first
2017-10-25T19:07:48 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-25T19:07:51 < zyp> since that callback is a response to an earlier transmit call
2017-10-25T19:07:55 < Laurenceb> ok on my F4 code I had to do that
2017-10-25T19:08:08 < Laurenceb> on F0, that code causes usb to lock up
2017-10-25T19:08:28 < zyp> maybe a double buffering issue
2017-10-25T19:08:54 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/Yh4Ln7N6
2017-10-25T19:09:00 < zyp> dwc_otg is using a txfifo, st_usbfs is using a ping-pong buffer
2017-10-25T19:10:21 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/issues/679
2017-10-25T19:10:28 < zyp> normally st_usbfs is only using a single buffer for each direction, but there's an optional double buffer mode that uses both buffers for a single direction
2017-10-25T19:10:37 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-25T19:10:39 < zyp> isochronous mode has mandatory double buffering
2017-10-25T19:10:40 < zyp> hey
2017-10-25T19:10:43 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-25T19:10:45 < zyp> show me your config descriptor
2017-10-25T19:11:05 < Laurenceb> main usb config?
2017-10-25T19:11:14 < zyp> yes, with the interfaces and endpoints
2017-10-25T19:11:34 < zyp> lsusb output is fine, probably more readable than a commented binary blob
2017-10-25T19:12:44 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/keKgxE7d
2017-10-25T19:13:23 < zyp> you only have a single endpoint in the entire firmware?
2017-10-25T19:13:49 < zyp> I mean, apart from EP0
2017-10-25T19:13:50 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-25T19:13:54 < zyp> hmm, okay
2017-10-25T19:13:57 < zyp> it's not that then
2017-10-25T19:14:24 < zyp> on st_usbfs, if you use 1 IN for isochronous, then 1 OUT is unavailable
2017-10-25T19:14:37 < zyp> so beware if you're adding more later
2017-10-25T19:15:05 < zyp> could still be some config shit, I don't know anything about ST stack
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2017-10-25T19:17:23 < Laurenceb> well F4 needs USBD_LL_Transmit(pdev, AUDIO_IN_EP, (uint8_t*)mic_data, AUDIO_IN_PACKET_SIZE); in USBD_AUDIO_Init and that breaks F0
2017-10-25T19:17:45 < Laurenceb> so i'm guessing the problem might be related?
2017-10-25T19:18:04 < zyp> you always need to initiate a transfer somewhere
2017-10-25T19:18:20 < Laurenceb> hmm maybe its hiding in library code then
2017-10-25T19:18:29 < zyp> you won't get a callback until a transfer have completed, and it can't complete without having been started
2017-10-25T19:18:43 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-25T19:19:01 < Laurenceb> also, why is the Length showing as 1 in usbmon?
2017-10-25T19:19:11 < zyp> where?
2017-10-25T19:19:12 < Laurenceb> aiui there should be 40 bytes of audio data
2017-10-25T19:19:34 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/v2Muzw5
2017-10-25T19:19:54 < zyp> maybe it's starting on the wrong half of the double buffer
2017-10-25T19:19:57 < Laurenceb> I get length 1 with F4 also
2017-10-25T19:20:07 < zyp> hmm, no idea about that
2017-10-25T19:20:27 < Laurenceb> might be a bug in usb viewer - they cant even get endiness right
2017-10-25T19:20:45 < zyp> well, what is AUDIO_IN_PACKET_SIZE?
2017-10-25T19:20:53 < Laurenceb> 40
2017-10-25T19:21:11 < zyp> are there 40 data bytes in the packets?
2017-10-25T19:21:16 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-25T19:21:28 < zyp> I mean, in the trace?
2017-10-25T19:21:49 < Laurenceb> I dont know, it doesnt show the data itself
2017-10-25T19:21:58 < zyp> heh
2017-10-25T19:22:06 < Laurenceb> but with F4 I get all the data in audacity
2017-10-25T19:22:08 < zyp> so, did you order a beagle yet? p
2017-10-25T19:22:10 < zyp> :p
2017-10-25T19:26:46 < Laurenceb> ok wut
2017-10-25T19:27:02 < Laurenceb> just grepped entire project, no calls to USBD_LL_Transmit( with argument other than control pipe
2017-10-25T19:27:21 < zyp> what project?
2017-10-25T19:27:29 < Laurenceb> my project
2017-10-25T19:27:43 < Laurenceb> so how come any data is sent
2017-10-25T19:27:45 < zyp> if you're not calling it from anywhere, why do you expect it to be called?
2017-10-25T19:28:02 < Laurenceb> I mean apart from in DataIn
2017-10-25T19:28:17 < Laurenceb> hmm maybe the library calls datain
2017-10-25T19:28:25 < zyp> it's probably just sending whatever garbage from the buffer
2017-10-25T19:31:19 < branjb> anyone have auto experience / experience dealing with warranty mumbo jumbo?
2017-10-25T19:32:15 < Steffanx> Not more than "give me new" "whooaakey"
2017-10-25T19:33:09 < branjb> haha
2017-10-25T19:33:16 < branjb> I found this online: https://imgur.com/a/jydEp
2017-10-25T19:33:24 < branjb> I have a 2013 jeep wrangler
2017-10-25T19:33:34 < Steffanx> ooh, such auto :p
2017-10-25T19:33:46 < Steffanx> since when do you guys write "auto"?
2017-10-25T19:34:00 < branjb> one of my left cylinder heads broke, that warranty says its a known issue in my make/model/year and warranty is extended 10 years
2017-10-25T19:34:08 < branjb> dealership says it doesn't cover me, what do
2017-10-25T19:34:15 < Laurenceb> hmm it is probably in pcd code
2017-10-25T19:35:05 < Steffanx> I luckely never had to deal with that. But I have a car that have such issues. It has a transmission chain, which isnt supposed to break, but yet they do
2017-10-25T19:35:11 < Steffanx> Fiat just tends to say: Fuck you.
2017-10-25T19:35:40 < Steffanx> I hope i'll never have to deal with that
2017-10-25T19:36:49 < Steffanx> it can help to contact the general helpdesk/service of jeep
2017-10-25T19:37:19 < Steffanx> That's what i read people do when they have the "broken chain"-issue.
2017-10-25T19:41:21 < Laurenceb> yeah this doesnt help explain my issues
2017-10-25T19:42:00 < Laurenceb> at end of the read, I'm guessing the host stops polling for isochronous transfers, before it sets the alt interface?
2017-10-25T19:52:28 < Laurenceb> maybe I can glue ftdi to the top and call it a day
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2017-10-25T20:07:42 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-25T20:07:49 < Laurenceb> trying to get F0 usb working
2017-10-25T20:10:49 < englishman> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/4404
2017-10-25T20:10:55 < englishman> saw this in a consumer product today
2017-10-25T20:11:10 < englishman> kind of threw me seeing an LDO without ground until i remembered it was a thing
2017-10-25T20:11:56 < englishman> branjb: dont buy jeep
2017-10-25T20:11:59 < englishman> thats is my advice
2017-10-25T20:12:07 < englishman> or any chrysler really
2017-10-25T20:13:10 < englishman> just take that paper to the dealership
2017-10-25T20:13:15 < englishman> or better yet just go to another dealer
2017-10-25T20:18:26 < Laurenceb> oh i have an idea
2017-10-25T20:18:40 < Laurenceb> each of the -104 errors comes from a URB
2017-10-25T20:19:03 < Laurenceb> maybe the "peer" is the kernel code thats requesting a 5s read
2017-10-25T20:19:53 < Laurenceb> so each pending URB is reset before the Set_Interface is issued?
2017-10-25T20:22:35 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/X0PYG78c
2017-10-25T20:22:54 < Laurenceb> doublebuffer = 0
2017-10-25T20:25:26 < branjb> englishman: that's my only car right now, so I have to uber around.  trying to figure out my options before I waste a trip where they'll just fart on a letter
2017-10-25T20:25:38 < englishman> why not call the hotline in that letter
2017-10-25T20:25:42 < branjb> I did
2017-10-25T20:26:05 < branjb> the rep had no knowledge of the letter/extended warranty I was talking about
2017-10-25T20:26:12 < branjb> told me to fax it to her and she'd get back to me
2017-10-25T20:27:03 < englishman> fax
2017-10-25T20:27:03 < englishman> lol
2017-10-25T20:27:04 < branjb> the dealership said that because the letter wasn't sent specifically to me that it doesn't count
2017-10-25T20:27:06 < branjb> right
2017-10-25T20:27:10 < englishman> what century is it
2017-10-25T20:27:51 < englishman> sounds like you're fucked m8
2017-10-25T20:27:53 < englishman> it's going to be a while
2017-10-25T20:27:58 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-25T20:28:04 < branjb> i'm gonna be a jew about this though
2017-10-25T20:28:05 < englishman> start recording your calls and collecting paperwork for the lawsuit
2017-10-25T20:28:16 < branjb> all signs point to i shouldn't have to pay for it
2017-10-25T20:28:23 < branjb> lol
2017-10-25T20:28:24 < englishman> every hour of your time they give you the runaround is now billable
2017-10-25T20:28:34 < branjb> gr8
2017-10-25T20:28:53 < branjb> think I can toss some mental anguish in there?
2017-10-25T20:29:54 < branjb> mostly one of the things I want to know and can't get answered is, I have the specific year/make/model engine listed in that letter, along with the exact problem outlined.  But my vehicle is not on some list of vehicles that would be affected by it
2017-10-25T20:30:03 < branjb> so why am I not on the list, and how do I get on it
2017-10-25T20:30:28 < Laurenceb> do I need to cancel usb transactions somehow?
2017-10-25T20:30:42 < Laurenceb> I'm not sure I've worked this out...
2017-10-25T20:30:47 < Laurenceb> so aiui
2017-10-25T20:30:56 < Laurenceb> host is polling for isochronous
2017-10-25T20:31:09 < branjb> even if they only flagged certain VIN #'s as being affected, I really doubt it's just coincidence that the exact part specified failed in the exact way but my vehicle wasn't one of the ones affected
2017-10-25T20:31:21 < Laurenceb> then when the audio device is going to be closed, the first thing that happens is that polling stops
2017-10-25T20:31:32 < Laurenceb> before the alt setting is set using set_interface
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2017-10-25T20:32:44 < branjb> I bitched on some jeep forum and an actual jeep social media PR person PM'd me asking for my VIN #
2017-10-25T20:33:37 < branjb> such a weird current year that you have to bitch on social media to get shit to happen
2017-10-25T20:34:12 < branjb> had an issue with an airline once where they wanted me to pay for a missed connection, desk lady was like "I can't do anything about it but if you go on twatter and tweet our airline PR account they'll hook you up"
2017-10-25T20:34:13 < branjb> wtf
2017-10-25T20:34:45 < branjb> 10 min after tweeting I had a new ticket
2017-10-25T20:35:04 < englishman> lol
2017-10-25T20:37:10 < Laurenceb> so maybe I need to somehow handle closing the device better?
2017-10-25T20:37:12  * Laurenceb confused
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2017-10-25T20:49:11 < Laurenceb> ok wut
2017-10-25T20:49:12 < Laurenceb> p (*pdev).request
2017-10-25T20:49:12 < Laurenceb> $336 = {bmRequest = 12 '\f', bRequest = 0 '\000', wValue = 13, wIndex = 1,
2017-10-25T20:49:12 < Laurenceb>   wLength = 0}
2017-10-25T20:49:34 < Laurenceb> I captured that request with usbmon and it didnt look like that
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2017-10-25T20:57:12 < Rob235> homemade fruit rollups in the oven, only 10 hours to go :/
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2017-10-25T20:59:52 < Laurenceb> usbmon shows a set_Interface command
2017-10-25T21:03:33 < Laurenceb> oh well time to haxor the code to brute force fix it
2017-10-25T21:16:44 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/h3MNmJqe
2017-10-25T21:16:46 < Laurenceb> my sides
2017-10-25T21:17:05 < BrainDamage> loranceb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tesla_shield
2017-10-25T21:17:11 < Laurenceb> only enumerates correctly
2017-10-25T21:17:29 < Laurenceb> ->  non-Hertzian scalar waves are warped into an impenetrable dome
2017-10-25T21:17:33 < Laurenceb>  O_o
2017-10-25T21:17:46 < BrainDamage> it's hilarious
2017-10-25T21:18:07 < Laurenceb> >would end all wars
2017-10-25T21:19:40 < Laurenceb> Two Fourier-expansions are made to interfere with 3-dimensional scalar hemispherical patterns in space so that they pair-couple into a dome-like shell of intense, ordinary electromagnetic energy creating the 3-dimensional shell
2017-10-25T21:19:45 < Laurenceb> my favourite part
2017-10-25T21:20:28 < Laurenceb> > the tesla interferometer is fed by a bank of Moray free energy generators
2017-10-25T21:20:38 < Laurenceb> well obviously, how else would it be powered
2017-10-25T21:21:27 < Thorn> >Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice (Grey's law)
2017-10-25T21:22:09 < Thorn> >Any sufficiently crappy research is indistinguishable from fraud (Andrew Gelman)
2017-10-25T21:22:22 < Laurenceb> https://www.tokenrock.com/explain-scalar-wave-technology-77.html
2017-10-25T21:22:33 < Laurenceb> even descriptions of scalar waves make no sense
2017-10-25T21:22:35 < BrainDamage> that's not crappy research, that's just hollywood style word salad
2017-10-25T21:22:52 < Laurenceb> Scalar wavelengths are considered to be finer than gamma rays or X rays and only one hundred millionth of a square centimeter in meta-width
2017-10-25T21:23:04 < Laurenceb> I don't even know what they are _supposed_ to do
2017-10-25T21:23:16 < Thorn> BrainDamage: I mean the Laurenceb's project
2017-10-25T21:23:32 < Laurenceb> Thorn: wut
2017-10-25T21:24:01 < Thorn> this usb stuff si a research project?
2017-10-25T21:24:11 < Laurenceb> contract project
2017-10-25T21:24:17 < Laurenceb> but its for research stuff yes
2017-10-25T21:24:30 < Thorn> oh ok then the 2nd one does not apply
2017-10-25T21:25:57 < Laurenceb> well it enumerates ok with my haxor code
2017-10-25T21:26:08 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/h3MNmJqe <- epin win
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2017-10-25T21:27:05 < upgrdman> heh, TIL. this sounds awesome.  https://www.hanselman.com/blog/UseASecondLaptopAsAnExtendedMonitorWithWindows10WirelessDisplays.aspx
2017-10-25T21:27:40 < Laurenceb> wew, data in audacity too
2017-10-25T21:28:35 < englishman> upgrdman this was marketed pretty heavily with surfaceshit
2017-10-25T21:28:48 < upgrdman> englishman, orly? ok
2017-10-25T21:29:08 < Laurenceb> lel wtf is going on
2017-10-25T21:29:10 < upgrdman> well this'll be a nice reason to keep my current Surface Pro 4 when i buy a new surface
2017-10-25T21:29:14 < BrainDamage> the usage is a bit limited tought
2017-10-25T21:29:22 < englishman> yea i never used it
2017-10-25T21:29:26 < englishman> but i can see it being handy
2017-10-25T21:29:29 < BrainDamage> the real adv is on larger screens
2017-10-25T21:29:34 < BrainDamage> like with tv
2017-10-25T21:29:42 < upgrdman> i wonder what the lag is like when using .11ac wifi
2017-10-25T21:29:55 < upgrdman> i mean you wont be gaming, but is it decent
2017-10-25T21:29:58 < BrainDamage> miracast doesn't really use wifi
2017-10-25T21:30:13 < upgrdman> what does it use?
2017-10-25T21:30:15 < BrainDamage> it uses wifi direct, then bypasses most of the ip stack
2017-10-25T21:30:27 < BrainDamage> it basically uses the wifi as a dumb serial port
2017-10-25T21:30:36 < upgrdman> so can the master pc still use wifi when connect to the other display?
2017-10-25T21:30:42 < BrainDamage> yes
2017-10-25T21:30:45 < upgrdman> o ok
2017-10-25T21:30:56 < BrainDamage> altought depends on the hw
2017-10-25T21:31:02 < upgrdman> so youve used it? what resoltuion for the wireless displays, and what kinda lag?
2017-10-25T21:31:09 < BrainDamage> but most of the controllers have 2 sep channels for ad hoc and wifi p2p
2017-10-25T21:31:29 < englishman> this is what that dickstarter scam wanted to clone
2017-10-25T21:32:01 < BrainDamage> there's even a lunix program that can do this iirc
2017-10-25T21:32:09 < englishman> only 4 years later
2017-10-25T21:32:23 < BrainDamage> 4 years later and sketchy as fuck
2017-10-25T21:32:30 < englishman> well thats a given
2017-10-25T21:32:36 < BrainDamage> https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast
2017-10-25T21:32:41 < englishman> haha
2017-10-25T21:34:12 < englishman> MiracleCast[28] provides early support for Miracast, but is not tied to that single protocol.
2017-10-25T21:34:17 < englishman> of course they have to come up with their own shit too
2017-10-25T21:34:48 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/thread/31198
2017-10-25T21:35:47 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, what resoltuion for the wireless displays, and what kinda lag?
2017-10-25T21:36:00 < upgrdman> like 1-2 frames of lag?
2017-10-25T21:36:05 < upgrdman> or 100ms?
2017-10-25T21:38:11 < BrainDamage> I've only used miracast with tvs, and the result was highly dependent on the device
2017-10-25T21:38:37 < BrainDamage> some was unnoticeable, some was unusable, no idea with sw only solution
2017-10-25T21:39:32 < englishman> what do you want to do
2017-10-25T21:39:42 < englishman> chromecast is good at this sort of thing because it isn't miracast
2017-10-25T21:42:05 < branjb> just did linkedin search for my area, filtered by chrysler, direct messaged 4 different regional/general managers @ corporate
2017-10-25T21:42:08 < branjb> lol
2017-10-25T21:42:16 < englishman> good tactic
2017-10-25T21:42:44 < branjb> i'll give it a few hours before I start messaging VPs
2017-10-25T21:42:55 < branjb> linkedin is awesome for cirumventing low level dudes
2017-10-25T21:42:57 < BrainDamage> since you're tweeting about them
2017-10-25T21:43:15 < BrainDamage> why not tweet how insane their company is that you have to tweet about them to get shit done
2017-10-25T21:43:35 < branjb> no way I can fit that in 140 chars
2017-10-25T21:43:50 < BrainDamage> ... i just did?
2017-10-25T21:43:53 < englishman> tweet it in 140 japanese characters then
2017-10-25T21:44:16 < englishman> or 140 emojis 🍆 🍆 💦 💦 💦
2017-10-25T21:44:19 < branjb> lol
2017-10-25T21:44:42 < BrainDamage> twatter said it's gonna revolutionize and bring out longer tweets now
2017-10-25T21:45:28 < branjb> https://pastebin.com/GYfEP1Cp
2017-10-25T21:45:36 < branjb> that's the message I twatted
2017-10-25T21:47:21 < branjb> i don't want to pay $1200 for a known issue that chrysler has extended the warranty on though
2017-10-25T21:51:22 < Laurenceb> I think I might know some more about the hal bug
2017-10-25T21:51:40 < Steffanx> pebkac? :P
2017-10-25T21:51:49 < Laurenceb> looks like USBD_LL_SetupStage is being passed the wrong data
2017-10-25T21:53:04 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-25T21:53:12 < Laurenceb> maybe I should just start work on my own usb stack
2017-10-25T21:53:34 < Laurenceb> could take weeks to debug st hal
2017-10-25T21:54:55 < Laurenceb> similar errors on the forums but no fixes
2017-10-25T21:55:15 < Laurenceb> I fear usb hal in unfixable
2017-10-25T21:55:17 < Laurenceb> *is
2017-10-25T21:58:30 < Laurenceb> request = {bmRequest = 128 '\200',
2017-10-25T21:58:30 < Laurenceb>     bRequest = 6 '\006', wValue = 256, wIndex = 0, wLength = 64}
2017-10-25T21:58:38 < Laurenceb> this looks like random junk to me
2017-10-25T21:59:38 < Laurenceb> presumably its related to buffering being handled incorrectly
2017-10-25T22:06:00 < branjb> no one has successfully used usb hal?
2017-10-25T22:06:20 < Laurenceb> dunno
2017-10-25T22:06:24 < Laurenceb> can't see how tbh
2017-10-25T22:06:36 < Laurenceb> looks like the error is in pcd
2017-10-25T22:06:55 < Laurenceb> PCD_EP_ISR_Handler specifically
2017-10-25T22:07:21 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/SvNzv6Nx
2017-10-25T22:08:20 < Laurenceb> line 1251 is passed a pointer to junk
2017-10-25T22:08:50 < Laurenceb> either reading the wrong endpoint registers or something else..
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2017-10-25T22:14:56 < Laurenceb> oh my god
2017-10-25T22:15:06 < Laurenceb> its called with an argument of 1.2k bytes
2017-10-25T22:15:18 < Laurenceb> no wonder I'm getting hardfaults
2017-10-25T22:15:25 < Laurenceb> its meant to be about 8 bytes
2017-10-25T22:15:38 < Laurenceb> wtf st
2017-10-25T22:16:08 < Steffanx> Isnt ST doing some mallocing somewhere and you didnt setup stuff properly?
2017-10-25T22:16:26 < Steffanx> memory corruption to the max?
2017-10-25T22:19:06 < Laurenceb> nah I fixed that using forum codez
2017-10-25T22:19:08 < Laurenceb> ep->xfer_count = PCD_GET_EP_RX_CNT(hpcd->Instance, ep->num);
2017-10-25T22:19:24 < Laurenceb> ok well actually it looks like its doing what they wroite...
2017-10-25T22:19:38 < Laurenceb> {{num = 0 '\000', is_in = 0 '\000', is_stall = 1 '\001',
2017-10-25T22:19:38 < Laurenceb>     type = 0 '\000', pmaadress = 24, pmaaddr0 = 0, pmaaddr1 = 0,
2017-10-25T22:19:38 < Laurenceb>     doublebuffer = 0 '\000', maxpacket = 64, xfer_buff = 0x0, xfer_len = 0,
2017-10-25T22:19:38 < Laurenceb>     xfer_count = 1020}
2017-10-25T22:19:48 < Laurenceb> but why are they doing that...
2017-10-25T22:23:39 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/thread/31198
2017-10-25T22:23:43 < Laurenceb> looks like this bug
2017-10-25T22:36:54 < Laurenceb> but I havent a clue how to fix it :S
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2017-10-25T22:47:46 < englishman> need a $25 digikey cartstuffer
2017-10-25T22:48:40 < zyp> you picked up artik last time you needed one, right?
2017-10-25T22:49:31 < Laurenceb> zyp: can you explain what PCD_GET_EP_RX_CNT actually does?
2017-10-25T22:49:48 < Laurenceb> its returning 1020, which is within the range of the PMA memory?
2017-10-25T22:50:05 < englishman> nah zyp i didn't, i'm not sure which one they need anyway, the 520 or 530
2017-10-25T22:50:09 < zyp> ah
2017-10-25T22:50:10 < englishman> i think i'll get some expensive pushbuttons
2017-10-25T22:50:25 < zyp> Laurenceb, give me a few mins, I'll take a look when I have time to sit down here
2017-10-25T22:50:34 < Laurenceb> thanks
2017-10-25T22:50:34 < englishman> https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/bulgin/MPI002-28-D1/708-1448-ND/1980805
2017-10-25T22:51:00 < zyp> hmm, I was thinking about picking up that mini beaglebone thing that's basically a breakout for the SIP thing
2017-10-25T22:52:43 < Steffanx> mini beaglebone?
2017-10-25T22:52:56 < Steffanx> pocket?
2017-10-25T22:57:29 < upgrdman> they should call it a babybone
2017-10-25T22:57:40 < upgrdman> that way people that use them would be called babyboners
2017-10-25T22:58:17 < englishman> https://www.digikey.ca/products/en?keywords=486-2048-ND
2017-10-25T22:58:23 < englishman> theres my cartstuffer
2017-10-25T22:58:28 < englishman> 0.4mm travel
2017-10-25T22:58:36 < zyp> ah, pocketbeagle, yeah
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2017-10-25T23:03:59 < zyp> the octavo SIP seems kinda neat, easy to work with
2017-10-25T23:05:13 < zyp> but then again it really only gives you RAM and PMIC, you still need an external phy if you want to do ethernet and some sort of external flash
2017-10-25T23:05:28 < upgrdman> im kinda butthurt that there's no cortex processors with non-nda docs that support 4k60 output
2017-10-25T23:05:39 < zyp> hehe
2017-10-25T23:06:29 < zyp> and also, a single cortex-a8 seems kinda dated
2017-10-25T23:06:37 < zyp> probably plenty for a lot of tasks
2017-10-25T23:07:31 < zyp> Laurenceb, so, what is PCD_GET_EP_RX_CNT?
2017-10-25T23:07:49 < Laurenceb> its a macro in hal_pcd
2017-10-25T23:08:17 < Laurenceb> I don't quite understand what they are trying to so
2017-10-25T23:08:18 < zyp> https://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/usb/f1_usb_def.h <- it's probably looking up COUNT_RX in the buffer descriptor
2017-10-25T23:08:19 < Laurenceb> *do
2017-10-25T23:08:45 < Laurenceb> is 1020 a sane number?
2017-10-25T23:09:05 < Laurenceb> is that the number of received packets or number of bytes in PMA?
2017-10-25T23:09:12 < zyp> is that hex or dec?
2017-10-25T23:09:16 < Laurenceb> dec
2017-10-25T23:10:25 < Laurenceb> I'll pastebin the st codes
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2017-10-25T23:11:02 < zyp> uh, no, 1020 is a garbage value
2017-10-25T23:11:02 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/GD4Ps9Ev
2017-10-25T23:11:14 < Laurenceb> ok that makes sense
2017-10-25T23:11:25 < Laurenceb> line 61
2017-10-25T23:11:32 < Laurenceb> thats my code added in btw
2017-10-25T23:12:08 < Laurenceb> so most of the time it gets a value of 8 or so
2017-10-25T23:12:10 < zyp> did you look at the RM description of the entry? it has three fields
2017-10-25T23:12:55 < Laurenceb> reference manual?
2017-10-25T23:13:00 < zyp> the upper 6 bits define reserved size for the current buffer, the lower 10 define actually received data
2017-10-25T23:13:14 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-25T23:13:16 < zyp> for the chip
2017-10-25T23:13:28 < zyp> usb chapter has a section on he buffer descriptor table
2017-10-25T23:13:34 < Laurenceb> yeah found it
2017-10-25T23:13:58 < Laurenceb> so is PCD_GET_EP_RX_CNT accessing the peripheral?
2017-10-25T23:14:13 < Laurenceb> Instance = 0x40005c00  so yes?
2017-10-25T23:14:20 < zyp> the upper 6 bits shouldn't really be 0 for an active endpoint
2017-10-25T23:14:40 < Laurenceb> oh they might have been masked somewhere before i see them
2017-10-25T23:14:45 < zyp> the buffer descriptor table is stored in the buffer ram
2017-10-25T23:15:12 < Laurenceb> yeah they are masked with 0x3ff
2017-10-25T23:15:30 < Laurenceb> so that makes sense, but not as a number of bytes to transfer
2017-10-25T23:15:38 < Laurenceb> see line 66
2017-10-25T23:16:41 < zyp> https://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/usb/l0_usb.h#n99 <- here's equivalent code in my stack
2017-10-25T23:17:20 < Laurenceb> ah you trim it to 8 bytes
2017-10-25T23:17:36 < zyp> setup packets are always 8 bytes
2017-10-25T23:17:41 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-10-25T23:17:46 < Laurenceb> but the data is also junk
2017-10-25T23:18:08 < Laurenceb> p/x hpcd->Setup
2017-10-25T23:18:08 < Laurenceb> $351 = {0x60ceb, 0x6ffed, 0x434f6
2017-10-25T23:18:56 < zyp> debugging ST's stack doesn't sound much fun :p
2017-10-25T23:19:58 < Laurenceb> does your stack support isochronous?
2017-10-25T23:20:05 < zyp> I'd suggest trying laks, but I haven't implemented doublebuffering support, which is mandatory for isochronous, so it wouldn't work
2017-10-25T23:20:15 < zyp> and neither has libopencm3
2017-10-25T23:20:15 < qyx> speaking of cortex a8
2017-10-25T23:20:22 < qyx> is the H7 out yet?
2017-10-25T23:21:07 < Laurenceb>       doublebuffer = 0 '\000', maxpacket = 40,
2017-10-25T23:21:07 < Laurenceb>       xfer_buff = 0x2000068c <mic_data>
2017-10-25T23:21:10 < Laurenceb> erm
2017-10-25T23:21:13 < fenugrec> in either case, adding double-buffering to either locm3 or laks would seem to be less of a nightmare than sifting through HAL droppings
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2017-10-25T23:23:19 < qyx> h743 is on order on mouser O_o
2017-10-25T23:23:21 < qyx> for 20€
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2017-10-25T23:23:56 < qyx> estimated delivery on 2017-12-17
2017-10-25T23:24:13 < qyx> I mean the nucleo h743
2017-10-25T23:26:04 < zyp> fenugrec_, I'd rather do that for sure
2017-10-25T23:26:16 < zyp> but I would never use HAL in the first place either
2017-10-25T23:28:23 < Laurenceb> wew cubemx didnt configure double buffering
2017-10-25T23:28:37 < Laurenceb> now i have to work out pma memory addresses manually
2017-10-25T23:29:08 < zyp> you've got v2, so that's no big deal, on v2 they are all contiguous
2017-10-25T23:29:21 < zyp> just beware you can only do 16 bit accesses
2017-10-25T23:29:35 < Laurenceb> just 64 byte offsets?
2017-10-25T23:29:38 < zyp> if you do a 32 bit access, you get the same 16 bits repeated twice
2017-10-25T23:29:43 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-10-25T23:30:17 < zyp> v1 was worse, on v1 you have 16 bits of data and 16 bits of unmapped gap, interleaved
2017-10-25T23:30:20 < Laurenceb> fenugrec: its a wurk project, they don't mind me using hal
2017-10-25T23:30:57 < Laurenceb> HAL_PCDEx_PMAConfig((PCD_HandleTypeDef*)pdev->pData , 0x00 , PCD_SGL_BUF, 0x0018);
2017-10-25T23:31:05 < Laurenceb> ^why the 24 byte offset?
2017-10-25T23:31:15 < Laurenceb>  (CubeMX autogenerated)
2017-10-25T23:31:27 < zyp> idk
2017-10-25T23:32:16 < Laurenceb> hmm I'll set it to 64,128,192,256
2017-10-25T23:33:29 < zyp> set what?
2017-10-25T23:33:42 < zyp> remember that the table itself resides in the same memory
2017-10-25T23:34:03 < Laurenceb>   HAL_PCDEx_PMAConfig((PCD_HandleTypeDef*)pdev->pData , 0x00 , PCD_DBL_BUF, 0x00800040);//0x18
2017-10-25T23:34:03 < Laurenceb>   HAL_PCDEx_PMAConfig((PCD_HandleTypeDef*)pdev->pData , 0x80 , PCD_DBL_BUF, 0x010000C0);
2017-10-25T23:38:06 < Laurenceb> time to try it and see
2017-10-25T23:38:11 < Laurenceb> meanwhile in uk http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-41738216
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2017-10-25T23:46:20 < Laurenceb> well now it doesnt even enumerate
2017-10-25T23:46:22 < Laurenceb> lol
2017-10-25T23:47:10 < karlp> 20:33 < zyp> remember that the table itself resides in the same memory
2017-10-25T23:51:33 < Laurenceb> which table?
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2017-10-25T23:53:15 < zyp> the buffer descriptor table
2017-10-25T23:53:25 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-25T23:53:28  * karlp wonders if lolrence has read anything about this at all.
2017-10-25T23:53:30 < Laurenceb> how big is it?
2017-10-25T23:53:35 < karlp> how big did you make it?
2017-10-25T23:53:53 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-25T23:58:17 < fenugrec> geez if you're getting paid to do this, why not just read the damn RM
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2017-10-26T00:02:49 < upgrdman> are you implying that people are supposed to work for their money?
2017-10-26T00:02:55 < upgrdman> ass hole
2017-10-26T00:02:58 < upgrdman> ;)
2017-10-26T00:03:05 < Laurenceb> woah this shit is confusing
2017-10-26T00:03:16 < Laurenceb> no wonder its broken
2017-10-26T00:03:42 < zyp> haha, be glad you're not doing a driver for dwc_otg
2017-10-26T00:03:44 < fenugrec> upgrdman yea I have these outdated notions
2017-10-26T00:03:54 < zyp> st_usbfs is super simple in comparison
2017-10-26T00:05:06 < Laurenceb> ok I think I get it
2017-10-26T00:05:27 < upgrdman> hmm i forgot how temperatures can change in the desert. was outside of california for too long. night time vs day time is almost a 20C delta
2017-10-26T00:05:43 < upgrdman> go on a walk at 5am and its cold as shit. go out for lunch at noon and its hot as shit.
2017-10-26T00:05:49 < Laurenceb> HAL_PCDEx_PMAConfig((PCD_HandleTypeDef*)pdev->pData , 0x00 , PCD_DBL_BUF, 0x00800040);//0x18 should put me well past the table
2017-10-26T00:10:54 < upgrdman> in win10, is ther a way to add cmd.exe to the right-clcik menu? e.g. "Open console here"
2017-10-26T00:14:46 < Laurenceb> hmf no luck
2017-10-26T00:15:14 < Laurenceb> HAL_PCDEx_PMAConfig((PCD_HandleTypeDef*)pdev->pData , 0x00 , PCD_DBL_BUF, 0x00800040);//0x18
2017-10-26T00:15:19 < Laurenceb> erm
2017-10-26T00:15:29 < tomeaton17> upgrdman you can open a cmd in that dir if you type "cmd" in the address bar
2017-10-26T00:15:44 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/9WGDUbrQ
2017-10-26T00:15:48 < Laurenceb> ^sane?
2017-10-26T00:15:52 < upgrdman> tomeaton17, neat.
2017-10-26T00:21:26 < Laurenceb> looks like something is wrong with my addresses
2017-10-26T00:21:57 < Laurenceb> the IN endpoint breaks endpoint0
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2017-10-26T00:29:32 < Laurenceb> either that or double buffering breaks the HAL
2017-10-26T00:29:43 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/HubertD/candleLight_fw/blob/master/src/usbd_conf.c
2017-10-26T00:29:49 < Laurenceb> that sort of layout fails
2017-10-26T00:29:58 < Laurenceb>   HAL_PCDEx_PMAConfig((PCD_HandleTypeDef*)pdev->pData , 0x00 , PCD_SNG_BUF, 0x0018);//0x18
2017-10-26T00:29:58 < Laurenceb>   HAL_PCDEx_PMAConfig((PCD_HandleTypeDef*)pdev->pData , 0x80 , PCD_DBL_BUF, 0x00580098);//0x58
2017-10-26T00:30:29 < Laurenceb> bbl
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2017-10-26T01:04:39 < karlp> upgrdman: bright side, at least you're acknowledging that socal is a desert
2017-10-26T01:05:05 < karlp> next step, acknowledging that you shouldn't use all the financial and political clout possible to keep that desert dripping wet :)
2017-10-26T01:05:05 < upgrdman> doesnt everyone?
2017-10-26T01:05:40 < upgrdman> nah i like my deserts to not look desert-y
2017-10-26T01:05:50 < karlp> and there we have it :)
2017-10-26T01:05:55 < upgrdman> :)
2017-10-26T01:07:42 < ohsix> https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Companies/Kobe-Steel-scandal-expands-beyond-aluminum-copper
2017-10-26T01:12:08 < englishman> upgrdman: shift+rightclick
2017-10-26T01:13:06 < upgrdman> englishman, hmm. wtf didnt they put PowerShit in the normal menu.
2017-10-26T01:13:16 < upgrdman> is shift-rc like an admin version of rc?
2017-10-26T01:13:24 < englishman> old cmdshell is deprecated iirc
2017-10-26T01:13:35 < englishman> it used to be cmd.exe there
2017-10-26T01:14:28 < jadew> I added that back
2017-10-26T01:14:47 < upgrdman> for tcp and udp, is there a limit to what port it can bind to, or is 0-65535 fair game?
2017-10-26T01:15:01 < ohsix> englishman: wat were you lunixing for
2017-10-26T01:15:09 < jadew> upgrdman, on linux only root can do < 1000 IIRC
2017-10-26T01:15:21 < ohsix> 1024
2017-10-26T01:15:21 < BrainDamage> wrong
2017-10-26T01:15:33 < ohsix> there's a configurable privileged port range
2017-10-26T01:15:35 < karlp> without capabilities and so on, but yeah, that's the simplest way of describing it
2017-10-26T01:15:35 < BrainDamage> 1024
2017-10-26T01:15:40 < BrainDamage> or set the capability
2017-10-26T01:15:44 < englishman> work
2017-10-26T01:15:50 < ohsix> or have systemd do it for you with a .socket unit
2017-10-26T01:15:58 < BrainDamage> but it's really ancient shit that should be gone
2017-10-26T01:15:59 < upgrdman> on windows, do they limit <1024?
2017-10-26T01:16:03 < jadew> no
2017-10-26T01:16:03 < ohsix> y
2017-10-26T01:16:06 < BrainDamage> it made sense like 30 years ago
2017-10-26T01:16:07 < jadew> they do?
2017-10-26T01:16:13 < jadew> I don't think they limit it on windows
2017-10-26T01:16:17 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-26T01:16:17 < karlp> not really sur eeit ever made sense BrainDamage
2017-10-26T01:16:18 < ohsix> but there's no distinction over the privilege
2017-10-26T01:16:36 < ohsix> it makes sense on hosts that have multiple users
2017-10-26T01:16:41 < upgrdman> ohsix, was "y" for me? because im adding tcp/udp support to TelemetryViwer and need the GUI to enforce sanity
2017-10-26T01:16:49 < BrainDamage> karlp: it made sense when networks were private and internet wasn't a thing, and the servers were centralized
2017-10-26T01:16:50 < ohsix> you only want the system to use 23 or 22
2017-10-26T01:17:08 < BrainDamage> karlp: so you knew a service was run by a sysadmin vs a user
2017-10-26T01:17:35 < ohsix> upgrdman: yea it was, but i don't actually know what vista+ does with that junk; and it's probably moot
2017-10-26T01:17:39 < BrainDamage> but ofc we got past mainframes and networks aren't as closed nowdays
2017-10-26T01:17:51 < ohsix> but you still have ssh on port 22
2017-10-26T01:18:10 < karlp> BrainDamage: ok, if you want to look at it like that, but yeah, requires _everyone_ to have _all_ of that magic knowledge inside.
2017-10-26T01:18:31 < ohsix> it should have been dead after portmap amirite!!11;]
2017-10-26T01:18:37 < karlp> 30years only gets us to the 90s, maybe 45 years ago? ;)
2017-10-26T01:18:43 < ohsix> cuz everyone started using rpc for everything
2017-10-26T01:18:53 < BrainDamage> mid 80s
2017-10-26T01:18:58 < karlp> everyone still uses rpc, they just call it somethign else.
2017-10-26T01:19:03 < ohsix> they don't use portmap
2017-10-26T01:19:09 < BrainDamage> but yes, i agree it wasn't that great idea even back then
2017-10-26T01:19:21 < ohsix> mdns has a thing for named services, so if you look it up right it doesn't have to be on 22
2017-10-26T01:19:23 < BrainDamage> conflates many things about security and assumptions
2017-10-26T01:19:29 < ohsix> but that's local
2017-10-26T01:19:51 < ohsix> jabber uses the same scheme on the wider internet tho
2017-10-26T01:20:08 < ohsix> you have the _tcp._boner name records that tell you where the services are on a host
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2017-10-26T01:28:22 < englishman> dongs, replaced atmel chip, attached to current limiting supply
2017-10-26T01:28:30 < englishman> it heats instantly, draws current etc
2017-10-26T01:28:35 < englishman> soooo something is fucked in schem
2017-10-26T01:28:40 < Thorn> anyone knows anything about http://www.marvell.com/microcontrollers/88MW300/302/ ?
2017-10-26T01:28:56 < Thorn> https://makerville.io/knit/
2017-10-26T01:28:58 < Thorn> >Additional product information is available under NDA on the Marvell Extranet.
2017-10-26T01:29:21 < englishman> but interestingly, only after i ERASEd
2017-10-26T01:30:09 < englishman> before that, 1.8v was still 0v
2017-10-26T01:43:16 < ohsix> h3h
2017-10-26T01:43:26 < ohsix> gimp can export gradients in 'pov-ray' format, that's really easy to parse
2017-10-26T01:43:47 < ohsix> also css
2017-10-26T01:45:18 < ohsix> ... whos export is written in scheme, so i could get it to write .c directly :D
2017-10-26T01:50:07 < BrainDamage> you can have it write c directly, export as xpm then just import it
2017-10-26T01:50:20 < BrainDamage> but it's a rather autistic format
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2017-10-26T01:51:13 < ohsix> oh ya
2017-10-26T02:08:18 < DelvingDeeper> Has anyone here used the dam to do bulk fast transfer from periph to mem?
2017-10-26T02:08:22 < DelvingDeeper> DMA
2017-10-26T02:12:35 < jadew> "For those purposes patch antenna is used. You can find patch antenna in your mobile phone, missiles etc."
2017-10-26T02:27:55 < upgrdman> so fun reading code written by some of my china bros. they seems to love functions that return a boolean... but they ALWAYS return true. wtf is wrong with people. lol
2017-10-26T02:28:16 < ohsix> some return false
2017-10-26T02:28:25 < ohsix> idiomatic junk doesn't always make sense olol
2017-10-26T02:28:31 < karlp> upgrdman: it's from following style guides
2017-10-26T02:28:38 < karlp> "use return codes"
2017-10-26T02:28:45 < jadew> they think they might return false in the future
2017-10-26T02:28:47 < jadew> ah
2017-10-26T02:28:50 < ohsix> there's probably a thing somewhere that says never to use void for functions that can't fail
2017-10-26T02:29:18 < ohsix> it's not a bad way to go if you want to avoid abi changes, but you still have api changes when you change the return value
2017-10-26T02:29:28 < upgrdman> karlp, ding ding ding we have a winne
2017-10-26T02:29:30 < upgrdman> karlp, ding ding ding we have a winner
2017-10-26T02:29:54 < upgrdman> they do so much shit like that. "we do this because we're supposed to do this" without understand why.
2017-10-26T02:30:13 < ohsix> they probably don't get paid enough to need to know
2017-10-26T02:30:23 < jadew> or to care
2017-10-26T02:30:28 < ohsix> y
2017-10-26T02:30:47 < karlp> upgrdman: yup. code by the book. not what the book is trying to say, just _by_the_book_
2017-10-26T02:30:57 < upgrdman> taking pride in your work is kinda a foreign concept in cn :/
2017-10-26T02:30:59 < ohsix> BrainDamage: forgot about xpm, they can have more than one line for some of the stuff i wanted to do, too; was literally wondering aloud if anyone had something. haven't got into it yet
2017-10-26T02:31:07 < ohsix> it still works
2017-10-26T02:31:28 < ohsix> that kind of pride is only useful for the peers that see the code, and you're not competing with them :p
2017-10-26T02:32:05 < jadew> upgrdman, if they're following the guidelines it's not even their fault
2017-10-26T02:32:20 < upgrdman> jadew, bullshit.
2017-10-26T02:32:37 < jadew> they might take pride in their work if they were allowed to
2017-10-26T02:32:49 < upgrdman> they are allowed to
2017-10-26T02:33:56 < jadew> it's hard to be proud of something if you're just a code monkey, which is what they are if they can't do whatever they want in code
2017-10-26T02:35:08 < upgrdman> jadew, i know these people. they have flexibility. they just dont take much pride in their work.
2017-10-26T02:35:09 < jadew> if all you do is write what you're told to write, in the way you're told to do it, it's barely even your code
2017-10-26T02:35:17 < jadew> ah
2017-10-26T02:35:30 < upgrdman> im not talking about cn in general. im talking about my coworkers in cn
2017-10-26T02:35:42 < jadew> yeah, I know those people too
2017-10-26T02:35:50 < jadew> they're not only in CN
2017-10-26T02:37:14 < BrainDamage> hah, I've mailed a cn engineer asking "what's the total noise power at the adc input" and he was like 'wat'
2017-10-26T02:37:23 < ohsix> it's not pride to cause trouble for yourself, even with good justification
2017-10-26T02:38:14 < upgrdman> ohsix, im sad to hear you say that
2017-10-26T02:39:54 < jadew> it's never a bad idea to speak your mind, if that's what you're hinting at
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2017-10-26T02:40:16 < jadew> if the environment spits you out because of that, then it's for the better
2017-10-26T02:40:50 < BrainDamage> that only works if you have another place to go
2017-10-26T02:40:57 < BrainDamage> i bet the job market in china is pretty fierce
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2017-10-26T02:42:36 < jadew> you're probably right and they don't need programmers cuz they just clone the hardware and use the original software
2017-10-26T02:42:56 < Laurenceb_> hello trolls
2017-10-26T02:43:07 < Laurenceb_> maybe we can fix st hal with scalar waves
2017-10-26T02:44:17 < Laurenceb_> https://jmag0904.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/teslavshertz.jpg
2017-10-26T02:44:27 < Laurenceb_> Hertz btfo
2017-10-26T02:44:53 < Laurenceb_> https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00792R000500240001-6.pdf
2017-10-26T02:45:00 < Laurenceb_> I can't even right now O_o
2017-10-26T02:45:32 < Laurenceb_> >dat redacted part
2017-10-26T02:45:47 < Laurenceb_> CIA literally trolling free energy n00bs
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2017-10-26T03:01:00 < upgrdman> wtf did new win10 add a "3D Objects" special folder. like wtf has so many 3d dildo models that they need an OS-sanctioned folder to store them.
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2017-10-26T03:06:25 < dongs> englishman: hmmm, so first one was already dead when you were playing with it
2017-10-26T03:06:38 < dongs> englishman: no shorts on layout or some other stupid shit right
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2017-10-26T03:12:44 < Laurenceb_> today I saw a van labelled "3D printer technician"
2017-10-26T03:13:38 < Thorn> kids these days, "Ice Cream" doesn't work anymore
2017-10-26T03:14:37 < englishman> dongs: nothing obvious no
2017-10-26T03:14:45 < Laurenceb_> https://img.memecdn.com/castration-truck_o_5157227.jpg
2017-10-26T03:14:50 < englishman> Pretty sure this one is dead now too tho
2017-10-26T03:15:33 < englishman> triple checked pinout again
2017-10-26T03:16:02 < englishman> will remove other chips and replace shit again, qfp144 sigh
2017-10-26T03:16:40 < Laurenceb_> what chip is this dramaz?
2017-10-26T03:17:02 < Thorn> did you check supply voltages with the chip removed
2017-10-26T03:17:35 < englishman> atsam3x from cloned arduino due
2017-10-26T03:17:52 < englishman> not yet no but they are not high when it's powered
2017-10-26T03:17:59 < fenugrec> silly idea... is the supply actally stable  - a bad cap might make it osc like crazy, killing the uC
2017-10-26T03:17:59 < englishman> as in, too high
2017-10-26T03:18:31 < Laurenceb_> oh the ldo issue?
2017-10-26T03:19:17 < Laurenceb_> yeah I've been bitten by ldo oscillation before
2017-10-26T03:19:25 < Laurenceb_> sometimes a scope lead fixes it
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2017-10-26T03:22:39 < dongs> englishman: why not put down just faggotmel and passives
2017-10-26T03:22:40 < dongs> and power it up
2017-10-26T03:26:54 < branjb> wew
2017-10-26T03:26:59 < branjb> chrysler told me to go fuck myself
2017-10-26T03:27:01 < branjb> rip
2017-10-26T03:27:12 < dongs> you applied for a job thrE?
2017-10-26T03:27:15 < branjb> no
2017-10-26T03:27:19 < branjb> i applied for warranty repair
2017-10-26T03:28:03 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/6XJkS
2017-10-26T03:28:08 < englishman> dongs: yea well removing shit is next step
2017-10-26T03:28:17 < dongs> englishman: easier to make a new board with just clean setup
2017-10-26T03:28:25 < dongs> less wank that way
2017-10-26T03:28:32 < dongs> did anything else get hot on thermalcam
2017-10-26T03:28:35 < dongs> when you hoked it up?
2017-10-26T03:28:37 < dongs> or just faggotmel
2017-10-26T03:28:45 < dongs> (btw, faggotmel gets hot just by running arduino code, fucking lo
2017-10-26T03:28:52 < englishman> lol branjb
2017-10-26T03:29:00 < dongs> i think on teh boards i was working with before they swapped to STM32, the shit was literally warm to the touch
2017-10-26T03:29:06 < englishman> nothing what soever
2017-10-26T03:29:21 < englishman> and only one corner of internal ic gets toasty
2017-10-26T03:29:33 < dongs> one corner of atmel?
2017-10-26T03:29:33 < branjb> englishman this one is even better: https://imgur.com/a/QL6as
2017-10-26T03:29:44 < englishman> yea of the internal die
2017-10-26T03:29:51 < englishman> smaller than whole pkg
2017-10-26T03:31:00 < branjb> they gave me a 2018 bmw as a loaner though
2017-10-26T03:31:03 < branjb> it's p nice
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2017-10-26T03:31:06 < branjb> might just keep it
2017-10-26T03:31:21 < englishman> haha
2017-10-26T03:31:28 < englishman> Chrysler dealer gave u a bimmer
2017-10-26T03:31:52 < englishman> that's fucked that a 2013 car has rockers
2017-10-26T03:32:51 < branjb> one of the regional managers I messaged on linkedin actually called me
2017-10-26T03:32:59 < branjb> I explained it, he told me to get a lawyer
2017-10-26T03:33:00 < branjb> lol
2017-10-26T03:33:51 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6HLJZzbwbk
2017-10-26T03:35:55 < branjb> this is the loaner they gave me
2017-10-26T03:35:56 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/UQcc8
2017-10-26T03:36:05 < branjb> but white
2017-10-26T03:36:26 < dongs> branjb: sorry i donno shit about cars why is any of that imgur shit funny
2017-10-26T03:36:33 < dongs> can i have a tldr
2017-10-26T03:36:37 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-26T03:36:59 < Laurenceb_> I need to buy a car
2017-10-26T03:37:07 < Laurenceb_> hopefully I wont kill the gearbox
2017-10-26T03:37:18 < Laurenceb_> prob opel corsa
2017-10-26T03:37:37 < dongs> isnt there some paki car you can buy in uk now
2017-10-26T03:37:41 < branjb> tl;dr chrysler had a flaw with one of their motors, issued extended warranty on that part.  but that warning only arbitrarily covered certain VIN numbers, not mine, I get to pay $3150 because I wasn't on a list
2017-10-26T03:38:03 < Laurenceb_> uk built cars ftw
2017-10-26T03:38:16 < Laurenceb_> looking for 1.2 cdti
2017-10-26T03:38:24 < Laurenceb_> gets 85mpg
2017-10-26T03:38:39 < dongs> faggot units are faggot
2017-10-26T03:39:00 < dongs> the citroen trash i was driving in UK could switch to km/liters/etc in settings
2017-10-26T03:39:05 < dongs> even for main speedo and shit
2017-10-26T03:39:17 < dongs> first thing i did cuz miles shit was confusing as fuck
2017-10-26T03:39:36 < aandrew> but driving on the wrong side of the road wasn't?
2017-10-26T03:39:46 < dongs> not if its the same side japs drive on
2017-10-26T03:39:50 < dongs> i was right at home
2017-10-26T03:43:55 < englishman> left at home
2017-10-26T03:44:39 < dongs> hehe
2017-10-26T03:44:40 < aandrew> ay-o!
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2017-10-26T03:54:45 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3iJlP_TXhQ
2017-10-26T03:55:02 < Laurenceb_> looks shit enough for me
2017-10-26T03:55:33 < kaaks> no offence for anyone but opel is trash
2017-10-26T03:56:18 < Laurenceb_> maybe but vauxhall is ok
2017-10-26T03:57:08 < kaaks> I have seen some older ones still in use but not newer ones too much.. friend bought one 2yeard old and it rusted away, electric wiring turned into shit and all fun
2017-10-26T03:57:26 < kaaks> opel = vauxhall
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2017-10-26T03:58:19 < Laurenceb_> interesting
2017-10-26T03:58:25 < Laurenceb_> what model year?
2017-10-26T03:58:46 < kaaks> wait I mix two stories
2017-10-26T03:59:16 < kaaks> new one was like around 2010 and that one rusted completelly into shit
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2017-10-26T04:00:06 < Laurenceb_> woah
2017-10-26T04:00:22 < Laurenceb_> I thought they had fixed paint issues in 90s
2017-10-26T04:00:23 < kaaks> older one with another friend had electric harnesses what were falling apart when he touched them.. model year unknown
2017-10-26T04:00:27 < kaaks> no way
2017-10-26T04:00:30 < kaaks> still shit
2017-10-26T04:00:44 < Laurenceb_> my mum has one from 95and its almost as good as new
2017-10-26T04:00:49 < Laurenceb_> left outside in uk weather
2017-10-26T04:00:57 < dongs> they dont make them like that anymore
2017-10-26T04:01:11 < kaaks> I don't know about 2017 because nobody is buying one
2017-10-26T04:01:31 < Laurenceb_> she had one from 90 before and it rusted to bits
2017-10-26T04:02:08 < kaaks> there is a lot of 90's opel corsas still around
2017-10-26T04:02:10 < Laurenceb_> tbh I havent seen any rusty cars from 2010 in uk
2017-10-26T04:02:12 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2017-10-26T04:02:42 < kaaks> like grampas car type of thing..
2017-10-26T04:03:03 < Laurenceb_> good enough 4 me
2017-10-26T04:03:13 < Laurenceb_> if it moves under its own power its good to go
2017-10-26T04:03:25 < Laurenceb_> not like you will be hitting speed limits on uk roads anyway
2017-10-26T04:03:25 < kaaks> whatever holds itself together
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2017-10-26T04:08:14 < kaaks> Laurenceb_, did you see the balloon flight?
2017-10-26T04:08:27 < Laurenceb_> no
2017-10-26T04:10:05 < Laurenceb_> need to replace rear brakes on my mums one
2017-10-26T04:10:07 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0maEagJRHEI
2017-10-26T04:10:24 < Laurenceb_> you need to release handbrake cable before brake drum will come off?
2017-10-26T04:10:41 < kaaks> lemme see
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2017-10-26T04:11:28 < kaaks> so is the wheel freeturning?
2017-10-26T04:11:49 < kaaks> or locked?
2017-10-26T04:12:25 < Thorn> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/plane-hits-eagle-carrying-rabbit-strike/
2017-10-26T04:12:49 < Laurenceb_> kaaks: there is a burning smell
2017-10-26T04:12:59 < Laurenceb_> can't work out if its wheel bearing or the brakes
2017-10-26T04:13:05 < Laurenceb_> going to take a look tomorrow
2017-10-26T04:13:33 < kaaks> if it's wheel bearing you will eventually see 1) wheel tilting 2) sparks
2017-10-26T04:14:03 < kaaks> 3) axle destroying wheel bearing assembly
2017-10-26T04:14:23 < kaaks> 4) wheel coming off
2017-10-26T04:14:53 < Laurenceb_> heh
2017-10-26T04:14:59 < englishman> I'm riding a bike thru parliament
2017-10-26T04:15:16 < kaaks> I have seen it going all way to point 3
2017-10-26T04:15:31 < Laurenceb_> lul
2017-10-26T04:15:53 < kaaks> my friend kept overtighting his toyota hiaces wheel bearings
2017-10-26T04:16:15 < Laurenceb_> ok so the symptoms are 1) an intermittent scraping sort of noise at low speeds
2017-10-26T04:16:34 < Laurenceb_> 2) burning smell (its only been driven for a few miles since the problem was noticed)
2017-10-26T04:17:04 < kaaks> performace problems?
2017-10-26T04:17:15 < kaaks> does it roll?
2017-10-26T04:17:22 < Laurenceb_> no
2017-10-26T04:17:27 < Laurenceb_> drives fine
2017-10-26T04:17:48 < kaaks> how do you think it's in the wheel?
2017-10-26T04:18:00 < kaaks> *wheel assembly related
2017-10-26T04:18:17 < kaaks> there is clutch also
2017-10-26T04:18:24 < kaaks> makes smells too
2017-10-26T04:18:26 < Laurenceb_> the noise is coming from the wheel and the smell is from the wheel
2017-10-26T04:18:41 < Laurenceb_> and the brake drum gets too hot to touch
2017-10-26T04:18:55 < kaaks> interesting
2017-10-26T04:19:19 < kaaks> you need to add to your possible causes list stuck parking brake
2017-10-26T04:19:28 < englishman> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zHcmf0TO/IMG_20171025_211859.jpg
2017-10-26T04:19:56 < kaaks> parlament of what?
2017-10-26T04:20:39 < Laurenceb_> yeah I tried the parking brake, I can feel it coming on and off
2017-10-26T04:20:54 < kaaks> well there is 2 lines
2017-10-26T04:21:02 < kaaks> as in cables
2017-10-26T04:21:08 < Laurenceb_> maybe it doesnt properly release?
2017-10-26T04:21:19 < Laurenceb_> anyway I'll find out tomorrow,thanx for the help
2017-10-26T04:21:21 < kaaks> and only one is sufficient to pull lever back
2017-10-26T04:21:40 < kaaks> another one can be stuck to parking position
2017-10-26T04:22:09 < kaaks> it just over slackens the cable when released
2017-10-26T04:23:09 < kaaks> make sure your car is fixed to place when you start lifting the rear up.. assuming rear
2017-10-26T04:24:44 < upgrdman> old but :)  https://gfycat.com/leafywindingazurevasesponge
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2017-10-26T04:37:30 < dongs> new to me
2017-10-26T04:37:43 < dongs> retweeting
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2017-10-26T05:20:26 < DelvingDeeper> I have no idea how people hit 30 MHz DMA transfers, I can barely scratch 700 kHz
2017-10-26T05:28:27 < dongs> http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/10/23/white-lives-matter-white-nationalist-groups-rally-tennessee/792726001/
2017-10-26T05:28:34 < dongs> DelvingDeeper: with what
2017-10-26T05:29:03 < dongs> i have certainly done 30mhz DMA from SPI flash
2017-10-26T05:29:25 < Thorn> DelvingDeeper: maybe your spi or whatever runs @ 700kHz
2017-10-26T05:29:30 < dongs> tyea
2017-10-26T05:33:48 < DelvingDeeper> dongs: Not running spi, reading from GPIO to memory. The DMA gets triggered every time a rising edge is detected on the timer 1 capture compare input and does the transfer. It seems to missing transfers everytime I push it higher than 700 kHz. I have an stm32f7 running the cpu and dma at 216 Mhz
2017-10-26T05:34:17 < dongs> yeah dude, youre clearly doing shit wrong.
2017-10-26T05:34:42 < dongs> you're DMA'ing GPIO->IDR or something right?
2017-10-26T05:35:02 < DelvingDeeper> dongs: fml, following an application note with example code, and this shit doesn't work.
2017-10-26T05:35:07 < dongs> rip
2017-10-26T05:35:11 < dongs> its HAL isnt it?
2017-10-26T05:35:25 < DelvingDeeper> Yep, GPIO->IDR to SRAM using the DMA
2017-10-26T05:35:28 < dongs> do you have a timer Update IRQ enabled by any chance?
2017-10-26T05:35:33 < dongs> because fucking cube
2017-10-26T05:35:58 < dongs> i'd imagine if you ahd update on, that would suck up all the CPU cycles
2017-10-26T05:36:01 < dongs> explaining 700khz thing
2017-10-26T05:36:27 < DelvingDeeper> yeah I've got a timer IRQ
2017-10-26T05:36:33 < dongs> which one?
2017-10-26T05:36:36 < DelvingDeeper> gimme a second and I'll pastebin the code
2017-10-26T05:36:55 < DelvingDeeper> update,break everything 0_o. this might be whats causing the lag
2017-10-26T05:36:56 < Thorn> maybe it's your timer that is missing capture events
2017-10-26T05:37:07 < dongs> DelvingDeeper: yes.
2017-10-26T05:37:11 < dongs> turn that shit off wtf
2017-10-26T05:37:19 < dongs> why do you even need a tiemr IRQ at all
2017-10-26T05:37:42 < dongs> your number of captures is in DMA->NDTR
2017-10-26T05:39:10 < DelvingDeeper> I'm assuming I need the timer handler to clear the registers as my dma request is handled by the timer? If I remove the timer handler, it gets stuck in an infinite loop of triggering itself
2017-10-26T05:39:22 < dongs> no
2017-10-26T05:39:27 < dongs> DMA is clocked from the timer
2017-10-26T05:39:32 < dongs> you fire off timer, DMA starts
2017-10-26T05:39:39 < dongs> once DMA count is zero, it stops
2017-10-26T05:39:43 < dongs> and fires DMA_TC interrupt
2017-10-26T05:39:45 < DelvingDeeper> I could be completely wrong. its 5am and this shit has had me pulling my hair out
2017-10-26T05:39:55 < Thorn> http://blog.internetcases.com/2017/10/24/reverse-engineering-of-competitors-software-cost-company-big/
2017-10-26T05:39:55 < dongs> so you shouldn't need any timer interrupts enabled at all
2017-10-26T05:40:39 < DelvingDeeper> dongs: thank you! going to go through the timer cookbook and appnote again
2017-10-26T05:40:54 < dongs> enjoy your cube
2017-10-26T05:41:34 < DelvingDeeper> I hate cube, programming without it where I can. it seems very buggy
2017-10-26T05:42:20 < Thorn> timer+dma is certainly doable without cube
2017-10-26T05:42:49 < DelvingDeeper> So wait do you guys use HAL as all?
2017-10-26T05:43:34 < Thorn> I'm only using it for rcc init because I'm too lazy to write my own lol
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2017-10-26T05:44:04 < Thorn> it adds several KB of flash just for that
2017-10-26T05:44:34 < DelvingDeeper> I use it for the setup of RCC and peripherals, but in handlers I try to program the registers by myself. Would you advise doing the setup without cube aswell?
2017-10-26T05:44:40 < Thorn> I think it's about as much as my usb stack
2017-10-26T05:45:33 < Thorn> that is what I do
2017-10-26T05:50:59 < DelvingDeeper> I should completely remove the timer IRQhandler in the it.c file right?   HAL_TIM_IRQHandler(&TimHandle);
2017-10-26T05:51:28 < Thorn> you should disable the interrupt
2017-10-26T05:51:53 < dongs> you shouldnt even have it enabled in teh first place
2017-10-26T05:51:54 < Thorn> in nvic and/or timer config
2017-10-26T05:51:59 < dongs> also, fuck cube making _it file separately
2017-10-26T05:52:04 < dongs> i never fucking understsood why teh fuck they do taht shit
2017-10-26T05:52:15 < dongs> when i write drivers i have the irq handlers for it in the driver.c
2017-10-26T05:52:18 < dongs> not in some unrelated fucking file
2017-10-26T05:53:24 < dongs> anyway cube has IRQ editor
2017-10-26T05:53:26 < dongs> you can disable shit there.
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2017-10-26T05:57:15 < DelvingDeeper> Ok, So wait... I just need a slight hint check on my understanding to make sure what I plan to do is what you guys are telling me to do. I have an external clock signal coming onto my timer's ch1 capture compare input whenever a rising edge is detected, this causes a dma request to do gpio->idr to sram. I just have the timer setup in cube to generate the request nothing more. So the irq handler for the timer shouldn't exist, t
2017-10-26T05:57:20 < DelvingDeeper> DMA?
2017-10-26T05:57:22 < DelvingDeeper> https://imgur.com/a/TQySK
2017-10-26T05:57:51 < dongs> So the irq handler for the timer shouldn't exist, t
2017-10-26T05:57:52 < dongs> cut off
2017-10-26T05:57:54 < DelvingDeeper> if so, I'm gonna go through the ref manual and try to setup everything myself
2017-10-26T05:58:11 < dongs> yeah, no need for timer IRQ.
2017-10-26T05:58:15 < dongs> it will automatically trigger DMA
2017-10-26T05:58:28 < Thorn> what is in NVIC Settings?
2017-10-26T06:00:26 < DelvingDeeper> Fuck the NVIC has a timer capture compare interrupt selected. I messed up the generation following the application notes example
2017-10-26T06:00:30 < DelvingDeeper> https://imgur.com/a/Y7DKL
2017-10-26T06:00:34 < DelvingDeeper> https://imgur.com/a/UADPA
2017-10-26T06:00:50 < dongs> ya, rip
2017-10-26T06:00:53 < dongs> thats whats making your shit slow
2017-10-26T06:01:12 < Thorn> disable all TIM1 interrupts
2017-10-26T06:01:21 < DelvingDeeper> If you're curious this was the appnote's interrupt.c https://pastebin.com/HZYVNSaR
2017-10-26T06:01:41 < DelvingDeeper> Thanks for all the help. Gonna try to get this fixed. Really appreciate the help
2017-10-26T06:03:13 < Thorn> if you simply remove the hanler but leave the interrupt enabled it will be promoted to hard fault
2017-10-26T06:07:27 < dongs> handler existing doesnt mean it gets called
2017-10-26T06:07:43 < dongs> the important bits is nvic and actual timer _IT bits enabled or not
2017-10-26T06:08:18 < DelvingDeeper> Works without the timer being there, yay!
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2017-10-26T06:19:52 < Ultrasauce> sup innovators
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2017-10-26T06:30:54 < DelvingDeeper> dongs: is there a register that I can use to see how many rising edges was received on the pin coupled to the timer? was using the cnt, but without the handler I'm not sure. Seems to be working a lot better though
2017-10-26T06:47:58 < dongs> uh, use a proper ide?
2017-10-26T06:48:02 < dongs> then you can watch the cnt shit in realtime
2017-10-26T06:49:05 < DelvingDeeper> dongs: I'm busy using atollic but not the pro..What would you recommend?
2017-10-26T06:49:43 < dongs> im sure that can do live memory display
2017-10-26T06:50:43 < DelvingDeeper> It can but you'd need the pro version. No free ide that can do this?
2017-10-26T06:52:11 < c4017__> Seriously you need the pro version to do that? It doesnt show up under Windows->Show View->Other anywhere?
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2017-10-26T06:53:36 < DelvingDeeper> seems like it : https://imgur.com/a/vA2sz
2017-10-26T06:54:14 < c4017__> That should work
2017-10-26T06:55:07 < c4017__> Alternatively there's probably 'memory' or 'memory browser' in the debug view folder
2017-10-26T06:55:35 < c4017__> Or just, yaknow, set up eclipse
2017-10-26T06:56:26 < DelvingDeeper> Yeah, might switch to eclipse, 'memory' might be an option
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2017-10-26T07:06:16 < DelvingDeeper> Gonna try to get some sleep, suns just come up. Thanks for all the help everyone
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2017-10-26T09:48:53 < ohsix> BrainDamage: ! i remembered another reason i asked people. if someone had seen or done a thing to generate code to calulate the color maps, without just having dense values
2017-10-26T09:49:10 < ohsix> there's enough information in the povray format to do that
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2017-10-26T10:03:47 < ohsix> er rather, it is already in a decent format; being able to script the shit in gimp makes it all moot, really :|
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2017-10-26T10:40:24 < capacitor> capacitor
2017-10-26T10:40:47 < capacitor> It was the warmest of seasons when the capacitor that made trophies out of men arrived.  Its battle cry, a simple “capacitor,” was all the warning one would witness before being atomised by a process known only as “welcome”.
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2017-10-26T10:58:24 < capacitor> Steffanx: come back
2017-10-26T10:58:40 < capacitor> i have to tell steffan about my new job
2017-10-26T11:06:46 < Steffanx> Uh?
2017-10-26T11:06:52 < Steffanx> capacitor: ?
2017-10-26T11:08:31 < capacitor> crt mate
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2017-10-26T11:16:04 < capacitor> 10d20
2017-10-26T11:16:11 < capacitor> is dongs local
2017-10-26T11:16:58 < capacitor> can you get these cheap you filthy cunt https://www.digikey.com.au/product-detail/en/cantherm/MF72-010D20/317-1229-ND/1191004
2017-10-26T11:17:21 < Ultrasauce> oh man i've been gone too long
2017-10-26T11:17:30 < Ultrasauce> I tried too hard to make sense of what you were saying
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2017-10-26T11:17:47 < Ultrasauce> rip
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2017-10-26T11:17:54 < capacitor> fuck
2017-10-26T11:17:58 < capacitor> missed that last line
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2017-10-26T11:38:29 < capacitor> okay
2017-10-26T11:41:28 < capacitor> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK-NoHjSgF8
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2017-10-26T12:09:34 < Jak_o_Shadows> piss piss piss piss
2017-10-26T12:09:42 < Jak_o_Shadows> must be how I have it installed in the circuit
2017-10-26T12:09:58 < Jak_o_Shadows> i swapped out with the known working stm32 board
2017-10-26T12:10:02 < Jak_o_Shadows> same problem with the LSE
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2017-10-26T12:22:39 < Jak_o_Shadows> I need to look at it in an oscilloscope then. Swappin in and out wont' do much
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2017-10-26T12:30:45 < capacitor> cocks
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2017-10-26T12:48:05 < jadew> https://imgur.com/gallery/n8umjWj
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2017-10-26T14:37:25 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/YJwmGcF.png
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2017-10-26T14:49:39 < englishman> Ultrasauce dickstarter found https://www.vincross.com/
2017-10-26T14:57:44 < Laurenceb> read that as ultrasonic
2017-10-26T14:57:47 < Laurenceb> inb4 ubeam
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2017-10-26T16:16:43 < Laurenceb> Ever seen Ethiopian food? No? Neither have they!
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2017-10-26T16:41:03 < englishman> >pay someone to show up and do $1k job in 1-2 hours
2017-10-26T16:41:12 < englishman> >2 hours later still waiting for him to show
2017-10-26T16:41:26 < englishman> i think i found out why the economy is bad
2017-10-26T16:42:17 < BrainDamage> was it a prostitution job?
2017-10-26T16:42:42 < englishman> there was some drilling involved yea
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2017-10-26T17:08:29 < karlp> I don't get that 100 emoji.
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2017-10-26T17:09:58 < zyp> I think it's supposed to mean 100% as a teacher would write it on a test which you got everything correct on
2017-10-26T17:10:12 < karlp> so when are people using it?
2017-10-26T17:10:14 < zyp> at least that's how I've always thought of it
2017-10-26T17:10:17 < zyp> no idea
2017-10-26T17:10:53 < englishman> calling another guy who will supposedly show up tomorrow
2017-10-26T17:10:56 < englishman> fucking contractors
2017-10-26T17:11:05 < zyp> http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f4af/index.htm "Comments: perfect score"
2017-10-26T17:11:34 < zyp> seems to align with my interpretation
2017-10-26T17:11:59 < zyp> I have no idea how people use it in practice, I don't interact much with people using emojis
2017-10-26T17:12:19 < englishman> i see it a lot in shithub comments
2017-10-26T17:23:30 < Steffanx> And in ##stm32 right? 🦆
2017-10-26T17:25:00 < Laurenceb> wtf
2017-10-26T17:25:06 < Laurenceb> perfect score?
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2017-10-26T17:47:56 < Laurenceb> hmm I have some luck with st hal
2017-10-26T17:48:12 < Laurenceb> its connecting without errors with the right PMA config
2017-10-26T17:48:18 < Laurenceb> but there is no data in audacity
2017-10-26T17:51:13 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/r6JulK2
2017-10-26T17:51:18 < Laurenceb> length is 1?
2017-10-26T17:53:01 < Laurenceb> hmm same with F4
2017-10-26T17:53:02 < Laurenceb> weird
2017-10-26T17:56:39 < Laurenceb> retire_capture_urb: 4990 callbacks suppressed
2017-10-26T17:56:46 < Laurenceb> looks like the difference
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2017-10-26T18:13:19 < Laurenceb> perplexing
2017-10-26T18:26:33 < Laurenceb> F4 has EONUM but F0 does not
2017-10-26T18:26:37 < Laurenceb> maybe relevant...
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2017-10-26T18:48:05 < Laurenceb> retire_capture_urb: 508 callbacks suppressed in dmesg but no errors on usbmon
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2017-10-26T18:58:18 < Thorn> ws2812 snake is done, tetris is next
2017-10-26T18:58:42 < Rob235> video?
2017-10-26T18:58:51 < englishman> yes plz
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2017-10-26T19:19:29 < Laurenceb> perplexing
2017-10-26T19:19:40 < Laurenceb> should my EP1 IN transfers have length 1?
2017-10-26T19:19:52 < Laurenceb> or length equal to number of audio bytes?
2017-10-26T19:20:10 < Laurenceb> W E W https://uk.mathworks.com/help/supportpkg/stmicroelectronicsstm32f4discovery/ref/audioinput.html
2017-10-26T19:20:14 < englishman> EPIN transfer bro
2017-10-26T19:20:42 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/r6JulK2 EPIN rage
2017-10-26T19:21:00 < Laurenceb> looks identical to usbmon output from F4, but no data in audacity
2017-10-26T19:21:11 < Laurenceb> also wtf [4143022.661648] retire_capture_urb: 4990 callbacks suppressed
2017-10-26T19:21:17 < karlp> guess it's not identical then.
2017-10-26T19:24:21 < Laurenceb> hmm maybe I should actually buy a beagle then
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2017-10-26T19:30:34 < Laurenceb> I wonder if there is more info somewhere
2017-10-26T19:31:37 < Laurenceb> nothing more in syslog
2017-10-26T19:36:00 < Thorn> snake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKoVBoE87kA
2017-10-26T19:39:35 < karlp> cute
2017-10-26T20:07:02 < Steffanx> Are the russian cats gone Thorn?
2017-10-26T20:09:02 < englishman> snake bit em
2017-10-26T20:09:18 < englishman> is that using ugfx Thorn
2017-10-26T20:09:26  * karlp stiffles a laugh
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2017-10-26T20:37:03 < Steffanx> Dont bully our bestest swisser!
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2017-10-26T20:54:59 < Steffanx> Do you have plans for 31st october Laurenceb?
2017-10-26T20:57:03 < upgrdman> do eurofags trick or treat?
2017-10-26T20:57:25 < upgrdman> i though that was just a 'muricafag thing
2017-10-26T20:57:42 < Steffanx> Dutchies have something similar on 11th of november
2017-10-26T20:58:14 < Steffanx> oh, i see more countries in europe have such day
2017-10-26T20:59:41 < Steffanx> but kids go around doors with a (preferrably) self-made lampion and sing a song before they get candy.
2017-10-26T20:59:52 < Steffanx> not just "trick or treat"
2017-10-26T20:59:59 < upgrdman> wuts a lampion
2017-10-26T21:00:06 < BrainDamage> when i was a kid there wasn't halloween, but as i grew up it started picking up
2017-10-26T21:00:16 < BrainDamage> howrever, we already had a holiday the same day
2017-10-26T21:00:19 < Steffanx> https://img.rtvoost.nl/T3/190384.jpg that upgrdman
2017-10-26T21:00:20 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, iirc your in .it?
2017-10-26T21:00:26 < BrainDamage> yes
2017-10-26T21:00:43 < upgrdman> Steffanx, oh, a latern
2017-10-26T21:00:47 < upgrdman> lantern*
2017-10-26T21:00:52 < Steffanx> lampion is english too right?
2017-10-26T21:01:01 < upgrdman> maybe. never heard of it.
2017-10-26T21:01:09 < Steffanx> but a latern might be properer english
2017-10-26T21:01:29 < upgrdman> chinafags love lanterns too
2017-10-26T21:01:46 < BrainDamage> the festivity is literally named 'the deads' too, so it kinda fits
2017-10-26T21:05:40 < Steffanx> wanna visit europe, but only when we have such thing upgrdman?
2017-10-26T21:06:01 < upgrdman> i might be back in london sometime in 2018
2017-10-26T21:06:14 < upgrdman> and maybe a little euro trip in 2020/2021ish
2017-10-26T21:06:22 < Steffanx> the UK isnt really europe.
2017-10-26T21:06:26 < upgrdman> i know
2017-10-26T21:06:42 < upgrdman> so many "american sized" brits in london and gatwick.
2017-10-26T21:07:51 < BrainDamage> man when i was in canada it was weirding me how people's average size was twice here
2017-10-26T21:08:22 < upgrdman> its because western food tastes so good. i wonder why italians arent fat as fuck, italian food is awesome
2017-10-26T21:08:36 < Steffanx> mcdonalds != good.
2017-10-26T21:08:52 < upgrdman> theres more to western food than cheap chain restaurants
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2017-10-26T21:09:17 < Steffanx> no..
2017-10-26T21:09:30 < BrainDamage> in my experience the idea of italian food in foreign states is rather different from the idea of italian food here
2017-10-26T21:09:44 < upgrdman> ~guaranteed true
2017-10-26T21:09:56 < upgrdman> i love me some shit americanized italian food
2017-10-26T21:10:08 < upgrdman> olive garden FTW! unlimited breadsticks!!!!!!1!1111!1
2017-10-26T21:10:19 < upgrdman> muh obesity
2017-10-26T21:10:42 < BrainDamage> also here people mostly home cook
2017-10-26T21:11:10 < BrainDamage> which help you control the amount of junk you eat
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2017-10-26T21:44:51 < Laurenceb_> sup EP1 IN trolls
2017-10-26T21:45:53 < upgrdman> Laurenceb_, are there lots of fat people in Derby?
2017-10-26T21:47:10 < Laurenceb_> no
2017-10-26T21:47:13 < Laurenceb_> why?
2017-10-26T21:47:25 < upgrdman> oh you missed the earlier conversation:
2017-10-26T21:47:33 < upgrdman> <Steffanx> the UK isnt really europe.
2017-10-26T21:47:34 < upgrdman> <upgrdman> i know
2017-10-26T21:47:34 < upgrdman> <upgrdman> so many "american sized" brits in london and gatwick.
2017-10-26T21:47:50 < Laurenceb_> lul probably more than in Europe yes
2017-10-26T21:48:01 < Laurenceb_> UK is like 25% Europe 75% usa
2017-10-26T21:48:06 < upgrdman> ah
2017-10-26T21:48:20 < Laurenceb_> little murica
2017-10-26T21:48:29 < upgrdman> yes
2017-10-26T21:48:56 < Laurenceb_> last time I went to Murica is was kind of hard to tell the difference
2017-10-26T21:49:37 < Laurenceb_> well the ppl were less assholeish but the police were massive assholes
2017-10-26T21:49:44 < upgrdman> ya only real difference i noticed is that london/gatick have more older buildings (history) and in the usa a 30yr old house is "old"
2017-10-26T21:49:55 < Laurenceb_> I almost got arrested for irl lolling at a police officer hiding inside a bush
2017-10-26T21:50:37 < Laurenceb_> presumably he was hoping to spot crime
2017-10-26T21:50:49 < upgrdman> interfering with a police officer's duties? that's a paddling.
2017-10-26T21:51:08 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxY5fDn5sjQ
2017-10-26T21:51:13 < Laurenceb_> ur in UK atm?
2017-10-26T21:51:16 < upgrdman> no
2017-10-26T21:51:26 < upgrdman> i was in the uk like 2 or 3 months ago
2017-10-26T21:51:29 < upgrdman> for 4 days
2017-10-26T21:51:40 < Cracki> hey tcurdt, your client wants to OTR with me
2017-10-26T21:51:49 < englishman> haha
2017-10-26T21:51:53 < englishman> yeah i cant believe thats still going on
2017-10-26T21:52:06 < englishman> tcurdt: update your textual
2017-10-26T21:56:05 < Steffanx> Who the fuck is tcurdt?
2017-10-26T21:56:15 < tcurdt> I didn't start my textual in ages ... what's going on? ... sorry
2017-10-26T21:57:31 < Steffanx> Wanna OTR with me too Cracki?
2017-10-26T21:57:47 < Cracki> send nudes
2017-10-26T21:57:55 < englishman> tcurdt: the guy that makes it fucked up, there's an update now (but only if you paid for version 7)
2017-10-26T21:58:07 < englishman> btw have you programmed any stm32 lately
2017-10-26T21:58:55 < tcurdt> wtf! sorry guys! will check the details and update
2017-10-26T21:59:09 < Steffanx> How's edison brogramming englishman?
2017-10-26T21:59:26 < tcurdt> englishman it's been a few weeks since my last stm32 fun ... why?
2017-10-26T21:59:34 < englishman> Steffanx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c
2017-10-26T21:59:46 < englishman> because this is a stm32 chan is all, just wondering if any innovations are aboot
2017-10-26T22:00:08 < Steffanx> ty englishman.
2017-10-26T22:20:11 < Laurenceb_> what happens on isychronous usb if DATAx does not toggle?
2017-10-26T22:20:24 < Laurenceb_> only half data comes through? Data discharded?
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2017-10-26T22:22:16 < zyp> I've had only half coming through
2017-10-26T22:22:20 < zyp> but that was on f4
2017-10-26T22:25:16 < tcurdt> ok ... hope textual is behaving now ... sorry about that
2017-10-26T22:25:55 < Laurenceb_> hmm interesting
2017-10-26T22:29:40 < Laurenceb_> zyp: does this look sane?
2017-10-26T22:29:41 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/r6JulK2
2017-10-26T22:29:45 < Laurenceb_> length 1 ??
2017-10-26T22:30:06 < zyp> that software looks totally insane anyway
2017-10-26T22:30:14 < Laurenceb_> its the same with the F4, but data appears in audacity
2017-10-26T22:30:19 < Laurenceb_> yeah it can't even endianess
2017-10-26T22:30:22 < zyp> sane data?
2017-10-26T22:30:40 < Laurenceb_> well I expected data to appear and length to be 40 bytes
2017-10-26T22:31:27 < zyp> so, got that beagle on order yet?
2017-10-26T22:41:58 < Steffanx> lol
2017-10-26T22:42:30 < Steffanx> i get the idea his boss wont let him spend $1.4k
2017-10-26T22:44:58 < zyp> that money should easily be recouped on less hours spent trying to figure out why shit doesn't work
2017-10-26T22:46:05 < Steffanx> didnt Laurenceb_ semi-freelance?
2017-10-26T22:50:10 < Steffanx> btw Laurenceb_, you have to be in Amsterdam the 31st of october.
2017-10-26T22:50:21 < Laurenceb_> why?
2017-10-26T22:50:25 < Steffanx> Human centipede marathon.
2017-10-26T22:50:32 < Steffanx> Together with your fellow fans.
2017-10-26T22:51:10 < Laurenceb_> wew
2017-10-26T22:51:29 < Steffanx> Yeah, i thought.. must know for Laurenceb_.
2017-10-26T22:52:44 < tcurdt> So far I've only used the blue pill boards from china. For a new project I am tempted to try create my own board.
2017-10-26T22:52:49 < tcurdt> Just a little afraid I might a bit in over my head. Anyone aware of some open hardware project I could learn from?
2017-10-26T22:52:50 < Laurenceb_> do PMA area on F0 have to be aligned with each other?
2017-10-26T22:53:03 < Laurenceb_> or can you have gaps inbetween them?
2017-10-26T22:56:15 < karlp> zyp: you're assuming that laurence will be capable of actually interpreting the data that the beagle gives him
2017-10-26T22:57:12 < Steffanx> Such, what blacktronics would call, passive aggression karlp. that doesnt suite you? What's wrong? :D
2017-10-26T22:57:25 < Steffanx> -first question mark.
2017-10-26T23:02:19 < blacktronics> Steffanx: ey fuk u mang
2017-10-26T23:04:05 < zyp> karlp, I don't care about that, I just want to look at sane traces when I help debugging :p
2017-10-26T23:13:43 < karlp> hehe
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2017-10-26T23:41:52 < Laurenceb_> looks like isochronous expects DATA0 always
2017-10-26T23:42:01 < Laurenceb_> maybe I'm sending DATA1 lol
2017-10-26T23:56:37 < kaaks> zyp, can I place indoor unit bellow level of outdoor unit?
2017-10-26T23:56:50 < kaaks> installation manual says maximum height difference 12meters
2017-10-26T23:56:56 < kaaks> but which direction?
2017-10-26T23:57:30 < kaaks> also do you know about coiling excess pipe? is it okay or not okay?
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2017-10-27T00:00:04 < zyp> I don't think there's any requirements as to whether it needs to be placed higher or lower
2017-10-27T00:01:17 < qyx> there is a difference
2017-10-27T00:01:29 < qyx> in one case you have to do a meander
2017-10-27T00:01:39 < zyp> although usually the outdoor unit is placed lower since it's usually mounted on the foundation to reduce vibrations
2017-10-27T00:01:43 < qyx> but now I don't remember which one is it
2017-10-27T00:02:14 < zyp> excess pipe is usually cut
2017-10-27T00:06:05 < qyx> hm, cannot find any reference
2017-10-27T00:06:09 < qyx> so probably it was a bullshit
2017-10-27T00:07:03 < kaaks> mine is to wall
2017-10-27T00:07:08 < kaaks> raight above roof
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2017-10-27T00:40:56 < upgrdman> RIP Laurenceb_ https://science.slashdot.org/story/17/10/26/1958220/many-junior-scientists-need-to-take-a-hard-look-at-their-job-prospects
2017-10-27T00:48:22 < englishlad> its downgrdman's reddit wanking hour
2017-10-27T00:48:53 < upgrdman> thats not even a reddit link you faggot, lol
2017-10-27T00:51:06 < zyp> isn't slashdot just obsolete reddit?
2017-10-27T00:51:07 < Ultrasauce> slashdot is a reddit ripoff tho
2017-10-27T00:55:53 < Laurenceb_> >reading reddit
2017-10-27T00:55:55 < Laurenceb_> >ever
2017-10-27T00:56:01 < Laurenceb_> >slashdot
2017-10-27T00:56:06 < Laurenceb_> >a reddit ripoff
2017-10-27T00:58:14 < Ultrasauce> sorry i forgot the new meta is just spam links from /pol/
2017-10-27T00:58:29 < Ultrasauce> and then get banned xd
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2017-10-27T01:37:45 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/s9cskHl
2017-10-27T01:37:47 < Laurenceb_> my sides
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2017-10-27T02:02:09 < Laurenceb_> Islam is a feminist religion. You may see veils but this is in fact a protection against the rape culture which surrounds all women. You have to have a high IQ to understand this.
2017-10-27T02:04:08 < Laurenceb_> the patriarchy is responsible for ST HAL
2017-10-27T02:08:49 < englishman> wb Ultrasauce
2017-10-27T02:08:54 < englishman> how is the startup life
2017-10-27T02:11:47 < Ultrasauce> busy
2017-10-27T02:11:52 < Ultrasauce> finally got funding
2017-10-27T02:12:05 < Ultrasauce> and a technical partner
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2017-10-27T02:37:01 < englishman> good news then
2017-10-27T02:37:41 < englishman> so someone trusts your idea and acumen enough to give you a huge stack of cash
2017-10-27T02:37:46 < englishman> really good news
2017-10-27T02:38:08 < Ultrasauce> ye
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2017-10-27T02:39:00 < englishman> when will you spill the beans
2017-10-27T02:39:10 < englishman> or potatoes
2017-10-27T02:44:34 < aandrew> https://gist.github.com/egirault/7b3fe7041e1bf5e2258ed5df7083f14d
2017-10-27T02:44:36 < aandrew> pretty cool
2017-10-27T02:44:44 < aandrew> the paper is excellent
2017-10-27T02:54:00 < englishman> haha yea man
2017-10-27T02:54:07 < englishman> it works on other generations too
2017-10-27T03:00:16 < Laurenceb_> ok I'm confused by usb again
2017-10-27T03:00:19 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/HubertD/candleLight_fw/blob/master/system/src/stm32f0xx/stm32f0xx_hal_pcd.c
2017-10-27T03:00:29 < Laurenceb_> line 1379
2017-10-27T03:01:16 < Laurenceb_> why do you need to send LL_Transmit to kick start the transactions?
2017-10-27T03:02:50 < Laurenceb_> as that ISR is going to be called by the IN transaction right?
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2017-10-27T03:04:59 < Ultrasauce> spill what beans?
2017-10-27T03:05:33 < kikes> mini split installed
2017-10-27T03:05:39 < kikes> vacuum tommorow
2017-10-27T03:08:05 < kikes> then see if any refrigerant has been left or how much has leaked
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2017-10-27T05:25:50 < blacktronics> I can't get ST Link printf to work :/
2017-10-27T05:26:09 < blacktronics> 746g discovery
2017-10-27T05:26:52 < blacktronics> It just doesn't do anything
2017-10-27T05:38:49 < englishman> welcome capacitor
2017-10-27T05:48:45 < upgrdman> any java pros in here? is there a cleaner way to make an event-based variable other than getFoo() setFoo() addFooListener() notifyFooListeners() ? seems like this is something a fucking annotation could make trivial.
2017-10-27T05:51:06 < branjb> englishman chrysler submitted
2017-10-27T05:51:54 < branjb> searching for regional chrysler people and filtering by city paid off
2017-10-27T05:52:16 < branjb> actually ended up contacting the district rep and they are supposedly giving me a good will warranty
2017-10-27T05:53:43 < branjb> was a good proof of concept that you can easily use linkedin to jump companies chain of command
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2017-10-27T06:11:26 < englishman> lol branjb
2017-10-27T06:11:44 < englishman> that's great
2017-10-27T06:11:54 < englishman> but I hope you learned your lesson
2017-10-27T06:12:08 < englishman> which of course you didn't
2017-10-27T06:24:13 < branjb> is that lesson don't buy american?
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2017-10-27T06:25:26 < machinehum> !!!!1
2017-10-27T06:25:51 < branjb> ordered some chinese wheel hubs for my robot
2017-10-27T06:26:01 < branjb> holes are in imperial
2017-10-27T06:26:02 < branjb> wtf
2017-10-27T06:32:30 < englishman> no that's another lesson
2017-10-27T06:32:43 < branjb> shit
2017-10-27T06:32:46 < branjb> guess I didn't learn
2017-10-27T06:33:03 < englishman> as i predicted
2017-10-27T06:37:04 < branjb> if anything the lesson that I learned is fuck low level guys, fuck bullshit customer service, and customer service really means try as hard as you can to frustrate the customer into going away
2017-10-27T06:37:30 < branjb> and linkedin is way more useful than I thought
2017-10-27T06:57:06 < upgrdman> heh i used to work customer service. was a shit job that was.
2017-10-27T06:57:38 < machinehum> Dealing with the general public
2017-10-27T06:57:41 < machinehum> Brutal
2017-10-27T06:57:43 < machinehum> Fuck that
2017-10-27T06:57:49 < branjb> i don't doubt it
2017-10-27T06:57:57 < branjb> how much power did you have to actually resolve issues?
2017-10-27T06:58:04 < upgrdman> it was like half the-company-is-too-dumb-to-fix-chronic-problems and half the-customer-is-a-fucking-idiot-and-blames-everyone-else-for-their-stupidity
2017-10-27T06:58:11 < upgrdman> very little
2017-10-27T06:58:12 < machinehum> classic
2017-10-27T06:58:29 < branjb> customer service seems to be mostly synonym with running customer interference
2017-10-27T06:58:58 < upgrdman> more annoying though was an unofficial policy to resist giving away free shit/service, but if the customer bitches enough to just give it to them to shut them up
2017-10-27T06:59:11 < branjb> deflect the dumb customers away from wasting the experts time
2017-10-27T06:59:19 < machinehum> Once you work with a normal distrobution of the people on the planet you realise shit's fucked
2017-10-27T06:59:20 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-27T06:59:33 < branjb> that policy does nothing but teach people that the only way to get anything is to bitch
2017-10-27T06:59:46 < upgrdman> exactly. and customers learn that QUICK
2017-10-27T06:59:56 < branjb> or go on linkedin and start direct messaging regional managers
2017-10-27T07:00:27 < upgrdman> if i ever had to go back to working in customer service / retail / food service, i'd prolly just kill myself
2017-10-27T07:00:30 < upgrdman> fuck that shit
2017-10-27T07:01:00 < branjb> I heard it builds character
2017-10-27T07:01:04 < upgrdman> so nice being an EE. many layers of insulation between me and the customer.
2017-10-27T07:01:10 < upgrdman> comfy insulation
2017-10-27T07:01:21 < upgrdman> *snuggles*
2017-10-27T07:01:47 < branjb> there's lots of EE jobs you can have the opportunity to work directly with the customer
2017-10-27T07:02:15 < machinehum> I have to
2017-10-27T07:02:22 < upgrdman> ya, but why would you WANT to workign directly wityh the customer
2017-10-27T07:02:25 < machinehum> Mostly the customer is decent
2017-10-27T07:02:45 < Ultrasauce> it is definitely possible to be in a b2b relationship where nobody is literally retarded
2017-10-27T07:02:51 < branjb> I work with customers
2017-10-27T07:02:58 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, very true. ok.
2017-10-27T07:03:06 < branjb> had a customer who purposely stalled a stepper motor because he didn't want a thing to move
2017-10-27T07:03:12 < branjb> then submit a ticket because "it just broke"
2017-10-27T07:04:36 < machinehum> How do you stop motors?
2017-10-27T07:05:08 < branjb> the mechanism in this case was on a lead screw
2017-10-27T07:05:35 < branjb> and he held the linear bearing in place
2017-10-27T07:05:42 < branjb> and it broke
2017-10-27T07:06:14 < machinehum> Probably was a Chinese bearing
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2017-10-27T07:06:25 < machinehum> Why wouldn't you design with American parts?
2017-10-27T07:06:36 < branjb> shitty warranties
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2017-10-27T07:56:03 < englishman> b2b is super fun
2017-10-27T07:56:35 < englishman> there's this field where you lack expertise but don't want to pay someone for fulltime? no prob il charge you for that
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2017-10-27T10:40:00 < jadew> I went through my math notebooks from highschool and I really don't know how come I got promoted
2017-10-27T10:40:39 < jadew> the way I recall it, I didn't understand anything back then
2017-10-27T10:43:02 < jadew> we were doing systems of linear equations with complex numbers and trigonometry functions and I didn't know what sin / cos actually is, even tho I remember asking that question several times and I didn't understand complex numbers either
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2017-10-27T10:43:40 < jadew> we were using e, without knowing what it is
2017-10-27T10:44:30 < PaulFertser> If you know some numbers have an algebra, why would you need to understand those numbers itself? ;)
2017-10-27T10:44:47 < jadew> well, so things make sense
2017-10-27T10:45:23 < jadew> I remember asking myself wtf is e too
2017-10-27T10:45:36 < jadew> I had to finish highschool in order to learn something
2017-10-27T10:45:44 < jadew> (after finishing it)
2017-10-27T10:46:09 < jadew> I wonder if I was a shit student or if the system is shit (or the teachers)
2017-10-27T10:46:25 < PaulFertser> Imagine you're reading something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_field . Does it really make much "sense"?
2017-10-27T10:47:00 < jadew> if it doesn't, than you're not understanding it
2017-10-27T10:47:38 < jadew> which is exactly my point, I had so many holes in my knowledge and they were never filled in school
2017-10-27T10:48:35 < jadew> and gaining new knowledge on top of faulty/missing ideas is not possible
2017-10-27T10:48:49 < PaulFertser> Well, depends on what you call "sense" I think. If you can properly reason according to a set of rules, does it make sense then? If you're told that for this numbers a + b equals b + a, do you really need to know what a, b or plus is to perform this transformation?
2017-10-27T10:49:05 < zyp> "you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink" blah blah
2017-10-27T10:49:31 < jadew> PaulFertser, you may be able to follow the rules, but then you don't understand anything
2017-10-27T10:49:54 < jadew> and if you don't understand anything, you haven't learned
2017-10-27T10:50:13 < jadew> zyp, I know, but I think they didn't really bother leading us there
2017-10-27T10:50:43 < jadew> either that, or I was a shit student
2017-10-27T10:51:13 < PaulFertser> jadew: so what is "understanding"? Often people say that they "understood something" when they're able to explain that using "less complex" words. But what if there's nothing "less complex"? How can one understand "line" if there's no definition of it, just the notion that it must adhere to a set of axioms and that's it?
2017-10-27T10:51:59 < qyx> imho understanding is the ablity to answer "why?" question
2017-10-27T10:52:01 < jadew> I'd like to know how those axioms were discovered for one or why they're so obvious
2017-10-27T10:52:19 < PaulFertser> qyx: so why two "points" fully "define a line"?
2017-10-27T10:52:24 < qyx> knowledge is ability to know and apply a+b=b+a rule
2017-10-27T10:52:44 < jadew> PaulFertser, good question
2017-10-27T10:53:02 < PaulFertser> jadew: but math is not a science, it doesn't really "discover" anything that you can verify in real world. It's self-contained.
2017-10-27T10:53:24 < jadew> PaulFertser, yes, but some stuff are discovered
2017-10-27T10:53:29 < jadew> like sin
2017-10-27T10:54:08 < jadew> I don't remember having radians ever explained properly to me
2017-10-27T10:54:48 < jadew> I remember the circle described in radians, but I don't remember it being calculated (which would have been super easy)
2017-10-27T10:54:52 < PaulFertser> Have you heard about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Bourbaki ?
2017-10-27T10:56:13 < jadew> no
2017-10-27T10:56:30 < PaulFertser> (please bear in mind, I'm not defending your teachers or the way they taught, and not implying you were or are wrong; just trying to add another perspective to this general discussion, highlighting the limits of "understanding")
2017-10-27T10:57:13 < jadew> your point being that knowing the mechanism is enough?
2017-10-27T10:57:29 < jadew> without understanding all the parts that make it work?
2017-10-27T10:58:40 < jadew> while I agree that it may work to a degree, I think this kind of information has a small retention rate
2017-10-27T10:59:26 < jadew> because you can't anchor it into thruths that you can deduce intuitively
2017-10-27T10:59:44 < PaulFertser> For some purposes, yes. In fact, children learn how to properly deal with natural numbers quite at an early age. And _most_ of them have never even heard about Peano arithmetics. Does that mean they do not "understand" numbers?
2017-10-27T11:00:21 < jadew> it's an easy concept to understand
2017-10-27T11:00:33 < jadew> because they can anchor it into reality
2017-10-27T11:00:41 < jadew> you have two things, you add one, you get 3 things
2017-10-27T11:01:10 < jadew> but asking them to use a function based on an arbitrarily defined number - that won't stick as easy
2017-10-27T11:01:21 < jadew> (ex: ln, without knowing what e is)
2017-10-27T11:01:59 < zyp> to me, understanding something means that I've got an intuitive grasp on it
2017-10-27T11:02:09 < jadew> exactly
2017-10-27T11:02:37 < jadew> you have to anchor it into something that you understand intuitively, so even if you forget the exact details, you can still deduce it somehow
2017-10-27T11:02:53 < zyp> like, I visualize complex numbers as 2D vectors
2017-10-27T11:02:59 < PaulFertser> But intuitive grasp can have serious limitations. Without Peano axioms you can't go far in properly deducing many common math concepts.
2017-10-27T11:03:37 < zyp> in other words, complex numbers makes sense to me
2017-10-27T11:04:09 < zyp> and once I figured out how quaternions relate to that, I started understanding quaternions as well
2017-10-27T11:05:30 < PaulFertser> Do computer algebra systems (doing symbol evaluation) really undestand anything? I guess no, if you put it this way. But they're certainly able to proof some theorems.
2017-10-27T11:06:05 < Ultrasauce> something something chinese room
2017-10-27T11:08:00 < Ultrasauce> and if you define understanding as the ability to generate a constructive proof then we don't understand a hell of a lot collectively, and the average person understands next to nothing
2017-10-27T11:09:39 < PaulFertser> Regarding math, exactly :)
2017-10-27T11:09:58 < Ultrasauce> now if you'll excuse me i'm gonna go jerk off to hofstadter
2017-10-27T11:10:43 < PaulFertser> But that applies to other important topics as well. Do people really understand anything when they use homeopathy? They say the "understand" it, but what exactly does it mean for them?
2017-10-27T11:11:27 < PaulFertser> Their model is good enough to predict results of their experiments? No, not even that, they are not able to construct an experiment even. They just have a notion their model does that, when in fact it does nothing.
2017-10-27T11:23:47 < zyp> now you're just debating semantics
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2017-10-27T12:48:38 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNDVS0EX0AAc9Af.jpg:large
2017-10-27T12:49:31 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb_: have you heard about Peano axioms?
2017-10-27T12:49:47 < Laurenceb_> no
2017-10-27T12:50:50 < PaulFertser> Guess your got your degree in some engineering discipline, not physics or maths.
2017-10-27T12:52:18 < Laurenceb_> looks like some maths stuff
2017-10-27T12:53:42 < PaulFertser> We're discussing the limits and applicability of "understanding". Do you not find it strange that so many people can properly manipulate natural numbers and yet they've never even heard about Peano, hence they do not "understand" them at all in some sense?
2017-10-27T12:54:10 < Laurenceb_> yeah but what is understanding
2017-10-27T12:54:21 < Laurenceb_> sounds heteronormative to me
2017-10-27T12:54:39 < BrainDamage> if you define 'understanding' as being able to derive from first principles then nothing except from abstract concepts can be understood
2017-10-27T12:54:56 < Steffann> Is it like using USB and not understanding it? :P
2017-10-27T12:54:58 < Laurenceb_> I've yet to see a single useful insight from philosophy
2017-10-27T12:55:39 < Laurenceb_> its just books filled with incoherent doodling
2017-10-27T12:55:48 < BrainDamage> not even physics can be understood except for limited subsets where an axiomatic approach can be applied
2017-10-27T12:55:56 < Laurenceb_> you need to do something in some way connected to reality to gain insight that matters
2017-10-27T12:56:19 < karlp> I like how lolrence is just trolling github for anything that looks slightly relevant, and trying it. without any idea if they even work properly.
2017-10-27T12:57:13 < jpa-> yeah, real coders know to try bitbucket and google search also
2017-10-27T12:57:22 < Laurenceb_> still moar pro than arduino
2017-10-27T12:57:40 < BrainDamage> http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1457364208l/29437996.jpg
2017-10-27T12:57:43 < jpa-> many arduino libraries are getting scarily pro
2017-10-27T12:58:08 < karlp> some of them, but you need to really get into tthem to see.
2017-10-27T12:58:43 < karlp> the multiplication of "arduino compatible" targets has really helped the arduino library quality, as they've had to properly abstract more stuff
2017-10-27T12:59:55 < qyx> ok, C pro coderz
2017-10-27T13:00:03 < qyx> how do you forward declare a typedef
2017-10-27T13:00:07 < qyx> without raising a warning
2017-10-27T13:00:14 < qyx> *typedef'd struct
2017-10-27T13:00:41 < qyx> one obvious choice is to avoid typedefs, the other one is mute the warning
2017-10-27T13:01:19 < jpa-> i usually have both typedef and struct name in the declaration, and then use struct name in the forward declaration
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2017-10-27T13:01:29 < qyx> this results in a warning
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2017-10-27T13:02:42 < jpa-> what warning?
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2017-10-27T13:05:17 < qyx> wait what, now it doesn't complain
2017-10-27T13:05:35 < qyx> I have to compare cflags
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2017-10-27T13:09:37 < qyx> ok, fukit, I cannot reproduce it now
2017-10-27T13:10:00 < qyx> I remember that last time I spent almost an hour trying to remove that warning
2017-10-27T13:12:06 < jpa-> you can't remember what the warning was?
2017-10-27T13:13:47 < qyx> yes, incompatible bla bla, defined "TypeDef blah" but "struct blah blah" passed
2017-10-27T13:14:16 < qyx> but that was in function parameter passing
2017-10-27T13:14:49 < qyx> basically when you declare your struct containing the struct itself (linked list)
2017-10-27T13:15:34 < qyx> and then a function for adding an item with new->next = first; first = new;
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2017-10-27T15:06:14 < Laurenceb> sup trawls
2017-10-27T15:06:32 < Laurenceb> is integer abs demanding on F0?
2017-10-27T15:06:38 < Laurenceb> guess I could check dis asm
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2017-10-27T15:13:52 < Laurenceb> ah rsbmi
2017-10-27T15:14:02 < Laurenceb> liek 2 instructions lol
2017-10-27T15:30:19 < bababooie> I was told by some AVR people if I could not handle the complexity of AVR I should try here.
2017-10-27T15:31:00 < bababooie> "Go to stm32 for baby's first embedded programming"
2017-10-27T15:33:59 < qyx> trolling probably
2017-10-27T15:37:21 < bababooie> True.
2017-10-27T15:38:21 < bababooie> Does the complexity of using a 32bit arch outweight the benefits of more memory space?
2017-10-27T15:39:21 < BrainDamage> data bus size does not make inherently more complex, the amount of periferials and their features does
2017-10-27T15:39:59 < BrainDamage> and stm32 are rather more complex than avr in that regard, check the clock tree
2017-10-27T15:41:44 < karlp> not entirely evident who was the troll.... the suggester or
2017-10-27T15:45:29 < Laurenceb> trolls trollin trolls
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2017-10-27T16:04:06 < dongs> Yeah, while I still have real powerful workstation and laptop I know where you are coming from. I use the Surface 3 Pro exactly like this, with Linux, instead of an iPad, exactly to be able to run really powerful and professional open source software (like an XEmacs, GCC, LLVM & GDB ;-) on-the-go:
2017-10-27T16:04:11 < dongs> lol!
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2017-10-27T16:05:26 < qyx> emacs on a go
2017-10-27T16:05:33 < qyx> the even
2017-10-27T16:05:46 < qyx> ok, my multidrop spi is working
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2017-10-27T16:06:57 < qyx> the last question is why the hell it stops working on the receiver side if I change the clock from /16 to /8
2017-10-27T16:07:15 < dongs> doesnt that mean its too fast
2017-10-27T16:07:24 < qyx> but receiving stops
2017-10-27T16:07:36 < dongs> well, sender stops sendignd
2017-10-27T16:07:59 < qyx> no sender sends still with the /16 clock
2017-10-27T16:09:15 < qyx> probably some Laurenceb class magic happening
2017-10-27T16:09:50 < Laurenceb> st hal?
2017-10-27T16:10:13 < qyx> no libopencm3
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2017-10-27T16:10:32 < karlp> heh, looks like my old temp code was bogus...
2017-10-27T16:10:44 < karlp> old parts came out around 20ish C, thought, "yeah, that's fine"
2017-10-27T16:10:58 < karlp> responded well to a cig lighter, => no problems
2017-10-27T16:11:20 < karlp> redid it on a new target for other reasons, get around 35C, much less jitter. responds properly.
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2017-10-27T16:11:31 < karlp> new parts are all around ~10C with old code, still 35C with new code.
2017-10-27T16:11:40 < karlp> 10C for on die temp in a 20C room? dum karl.
2017-10-27T16:11:43 < Laurenceb> got some data out of my LSM6
2017-10-27T16:11:51 < karlp> 20C for die temp in a 20C room should have alerted me too.
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2017-10-27T16:12:09 < qyx> stm32 temp?
2017-10-27T16:12:11 < Laurenceb> accel noise is 142µG/sqrt(Hz) from 0 to 225hz
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2017-10-27T16:12:24 < Laurenceb> not too bad, but datasheet is 100
2017-10-27T16:12:49 < karlp> qyx: yeah,
2017-10-27T16:12:59 < qyx> wrong address of the calib data?
2017-10-27T16:13:00 < karlp> I think I was doing some bad floating point conversions before
2017-10-27T16:13:01 < Laurenceb> noise drops off above 250hz, but I think sensitivity does too
2017-10-27T16:13:08 < qyx> ah
2017-10-27T16:13:22 < karlp> or possibly losing things when the calib was below zero or something dumb anyway.
2017-10-27T16:13:43 < karlp> new code is less code, and seems much more accurate, less jumping
2017-10-27T16:14:24 < qyx> less jumping.. how fast do you sample it?
2017-10-27T16:14:43 < karlp> old code: 11.6C, 13.2C, 12.4C, new code: 32.4, 32.2, 32.6
2017-10-27T16:14:56 < karlp> ~every 2 seconds is what i'm looking at now,
2017-10-27T16:15:22 < karlp> internally it's every 200ms or something.  autoinjected at the end of the normal sampling at 5khz actually :)
2017-10-27T16:15:36 < karlp> anwyay. "fixed"
2017-10-27T16:17:32 < karlp> https://imgur.com/a/d6lF9
2017-10-27T16:19:59 < qyx> hm, the spi problem is that it adds a single 1 on the beginning
2017-10-27T16:20:17 < qyx> so it shifts the whole frame on reception
2017-10-27T16:21:32 < qyx> but noway the first bit is 1
2017-10-27T16:26:08 < Cracki> clock polarity, clock phase?
2017-10-27T16:26:11 < Cracki> 9 bit spi?
2017-10-27T16:26:29 < qyx> nope, nope, nope
2017-10-27T16:26:40 < qyx> cpol and cpha are set identically
2017-10-27T16:26:48 < Cracki> scope it
2017-10-27T16:26:49 < qyx> although changing it changes the received bit pattern
2017-10-27T16:26:55 < qyx> it is perfecly valid on the scope
2017-10-27T16:27:03 < Cracki> is it sampled at the right times?
2017-10-27T16:27:16 < qyx> dunno, must ask stm32
2017-10-27T16:27:23 < Cracki> sampling "on" edge can work most of the time
2017-10-27T16:27:39 < qyx> afaik there is no register setting for sampling time
2017-10-27T16:27:50 < Cracki> that's cpha/cpol
2017-10-27T16:28:18 < Cracki> with sampling on edge I mean it's not sampling in the middle of the symbol, but at invalid times
2017-10-27T16:28:31 < qyx> why should I sample on the edge
2017-10-27T16:28:31 < Cracki> also if you get an extra bit, that strongly indicates wrong cpha/cpol
2017-10-27T16:28:40 < Cracki> you should _not_, that's the joke ;)
2017-10-27T16:28:47 < qyx> I am not
2017-10-27T16:28:51 < karlp> scope scope or LA scope? are they good edges?
2017-10-27T16:28:53 < Cracki> (I did that once, took a while to notice)
2017-10-27T16:28:59 < qyx> scope scope
2017-10-27T16:29:18 < Cracki> 12/10 good edge
2017-10-27T16:29:19 < qyx> hillarious, with no ringing
2017-10-27T16:30:01 < qyx> cpol is 0, clock is L hen idle
2017-10-27T16:30:12 < qyx> wait whut
2017-10-27T16:30:35 < Cracki> idling high is recommended
2017-10-27T16:30:40 < karlp> "recommended" where?
2017-10-27T16:30:48 < Cracki> by me :P
2017-10-27T16:30:49 < qyx> usually spi 0, 0 mode is used
2017-10-27T16:30:54 < qyx> I am idling low
2017-10-27T16:30:56 < Cracki> lots of devices prefer it that way
2017-10-27T16:31:00 < karlp> "lots"
2017-10-27T16:31:03 < karlp> [citation needed]
2017-10-27T16:31:08 < karlp> there's a reason there's 4 fucking modes.
2017-10-27T16:31:10 < Cracki> yes yes the lot I had to deal with
2017-10-27T16:31:23 < qyx> ok, doesnt matter, both stms are set to 0, 0 mode
2017-10-27T16:31:32 < qyx> idle low, sample at the first edge
2017-10-27T16:31:39 < karlp> had fun working with any that use one mode for tx, another for rx yet? ;)
2017-10-27T16:31:40 < qyx> thats exactyl in the middle
2017-10-27T16:32:23 < Cracki> boss made me talk to a 595 and a 165 at the same time... works, if you are being creative with polarity, phase, chipselects
2017-10-27T16:33:13 < Cracki> the one latches high, the other low
2017-10-27T16:33:55 < qyx> isnt there some minimum clock requirement in the slave mode?
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2017-10-27T16:38:20 < qyx> fuck
2017-10-27T16:38:38 < qyx> why are there both SPI_CR1_BAUDRATE_FPCLK_DIV_2 and SPI_CR1_BR_FPCLK_DIV_2
2017-10-27T16:38:59 < qyx> the first one is 0 << 3, the sedond one is 0
2017-10-27T16:39:26 < qyx> so it messes with the cpol and cpha setting, which are bits 0 and 1
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2017-10-27T16:41:18 < Cracki> how
2017-10-27T16:41:41 < Cracki> either it's a struct with separate bit fields, then no issue, or it's supposed to |= on, then also no issue since both constants are 0
2017-10-27T16:42:51 < qyx> DIV_16 is 4 vs 4 << 3
2017-10-27T16:42:54 < qyx> which is a difference
2017-10-27T16:44:19 < Cracki> you said 0 and 0<<3
2017-10-27T16:44:39 < qyx> it depends on the baudrate settings
2017-10-27T16:44:43 < qyx> it changes of course
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2017-10-27T16:59:09 < qyx> ok, the problem was
2017-10-27T17:00:09 < qyx> you have to first turn off nss software mode and then switch to slave
2017-10-27T17:00:47 < qyx> otherwise the slave would immediately shift in the last bit before turning off the master mode
2017-10-27T17:01:18 < qyx> master <-> slave
2017-10-27T17:01:53 < qyx> and that single bit will dwell in the rx fifo, wait for the master transmittion complete
2017-10-27T17:02:01 < karlp> oh, you're doing cool master/slave mode switching aren't you?
2017-10-27T17:02:03 < karlp> neat.
2017-10-27T17:02:13 < qyx> and when you stich back to slave mode, the whole thing is shifted by one bit
2017-10-27T17:02:20 < qyx> yes
2017-10-27T17:02:20 < karlp> token passing sort of style or what?
2017-10-27T17:02:34 < karlp> one person declares who the next master is?
2017-10-27T17:02:39 < qyx> basically it is multimaster multidrop, but there is only one master and it polls
2017-10-27T17:03:11 < karlp> ... why does anyone need to switch mode then?
2017-10-27T17:03:21 < qyx> because I want the slaves to respond
2017-10-27T17:03:31 < qyx> and they are hooked on the same bus
2017-10-27T17:03:36 < qyx> with a single chip select
2017-10-27T17:03:39 < qyx> addressed
2017-10-27T17:04:15 < karlp> you are already handling the other slaves ignoring non-addressed data,
2017-10-27T17:04:25 < qyx> yes
2017-10-27T17:04:33 < karlp> why can't the master just keep clocking out and only the addressed slave writes back?
2017-10-27T17:05:06 < qyx> thats one possiblity, but the slave cnnot "stretch the bus" ths way
2017-10-27T17:05:17 < karlp> no, true.
2017-10-27T17:05:21 < qyx> also, slock skew with higher speeds
2017-10-27T17:05:28 < qyx> so the slave is clocking during the response
2017-10-27T17:13:41 < englishman> dongs, whats a phone that isnt gay and overpriced
2017-10-27T17:13:45 < englishman> my s5 is dead, time to replace
2017-10-27T17:13:48 < englishman> looking at chinkphones
2017-10-27T17:17:08 < aandrew> englishman: http://c.dx.com/collection/201710/20171026/en/index.html that's what was recently spammed to me
2017-10-27T17:17:45 < englishman> yeah stuff like that
2017-10-27T17:17:49 < englishman> looking at this too http://www.mi.com/en/mi-a1/
2017-10-27T17:18:04 < englishman> most of them don't cover non-china LTE bands sadly
2017-10-27T17:18:17 < englishman> and for some reason, many of them dont have an accelerometer
2017-10-27T17:18:29 < aandrew> love how the photots for a chinafone are all of white people
2017-10-27T17:18:55 < englishman> Essential phone is $1100 here or some shit
2017-10-27T17:19:00 < englishman> and $500 in usa
2017-10-27T17:19:02 < englishman> what a joke
2017-10-27T17:24:48 < karlp> englishman: re lte, do you reall mean, "eveywhere but what the north americans decided" ?
2017-10-27T17:25:08 < englishman> i dono, but some chinese phones cover all the lte bands, most dont
2017-10-27T17:27:03 < Lux> apparently on some phones you can unlock additional bands messing around with the nvram
2017-10-27T17:27:16 < Lux> but that seems rather tedious
2017-10-27T17:27:38 < englishman> which one did you get again?
2017-10-27T17:27:42 < Lux> mi5
2017-10-27T17:29:23 < englishman> mi a1 = mi 5x but with androidone
2017-10-27T17:30:33 < englishman> cool looks like lte compatibility is good
2017-10-27T17:30:41 < englishman> frequencycheck.com
2017-10-27T17:30:43 < englishman> what a handy site
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2017-10-27T17:34:05 < Lux> but tbh i'd rather get a proper phone, i mean the quality on the mi5 is pretty good, but i've had issues with wifi only working on 5ghz and gps only works in device only mode on lineage os
2017-10-27T17:34:25 < Lux> on the plus side I dropped it on a stone floor a couple of times and no shattered glass :)
2017-10-27T17:35:34 < Lux> also unlocking the bootloader was a major pita, as you have to wait like 3 days to get the unlock codes from xiaomi
2017-10-27T17:36:59 < Lux> if you can still get it, the nexus5x seems like a decent phone
2017-10-27T17:38:31 < englishman> isn't that the one google is replacing? or was that 6p
2017-10-27T17:38:41 < englishman> "real" phones are all $700+ is the thing
2017-10-27T17:39:03 < englishman> maybe i can get another s5 NIB or something
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2017-10-27T17:40:38 < englishman> hmm yea maybe that. amoled is nice to have
2017-10-27T17:46:26 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/StfYfca.png
2017-10-27T17:46:30 < Laurenceb> victory
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2017-10-27T17:48:10 < PaulFertser> superbia: show your project
2017-10-27T17:48:12 < Laurenceb> CubeMX code is a disaster zone
2017-10-27T17:48:18 < Laurenceb> usb init shit was in wrong order
2017-10-27T17:50:42 < sync> nice
2017-10-27T17:51:50 < Laurenceb> me tapping it at 6.4s
2017-10-27T17:52:11 < karlp> what editor are you using Laurenceb ?
2017-10-27T17:52:21 < Laurenceb> gedit with custom theme
2017-10-27T17:56:03 < englishman> god why
2017-10-27T17:56:23 < Laurenceb> cuz its hawt
2017-10-27T17:56:26 < Laurenceb> wait no
2017-10-27T17:56:30 < Laurenceb> custom gedit too
2017-10-27T17:56:39 < Laurenceb> cuz of crap ui changes
2017-10-27T17:56:42 < englishman> cool, laurent
2017-10-27T17:57:17 < Laurenceb> not my work, some git pro managed to marge some shit and it actually compiled
2017-10-27T17:57:55 < Laurenceb> newer gedit is cancer
2017-10-27T17:58:27 < Laurenceb> wut the... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Gedit_3.11.92.png/300px-Gedit_3.11.92.png
2017-10-27T17:58:31 < englishman> no i mean the audio graph
2017-10-27T17:59:07 < Laurenceb> audacity
2017-10-27T17:59:30 < Laurenceb> doubles as customer GUI
2017-10-27T17:59:53 < englishman> heh
2017-10-27T18:00:42 < Laurenceb> noise seems almost in spec
2017-10-27T18:00:55 < Laurenceb> looks like ST were being creative in datasheet
2017-10-27T18:01:16 < Laurenceb> if I take low frequencies then there is about 40% more noise than spec
2017-10-27T18:01:22 < Laurenceb>  1-250hz
2017-10-27T18:02:06 < Laurenceb> superbia desktop == pure cancer
2017-10-27T18:02:29 < Laurenceb> also: hi Ivan
2017-10-27T18:02:48 < Laurenceb> w e w
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2017-10-27T18:03:30 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBMIA2jvc1A
2017-10-27T18:04:13 < englishman> well Laurenceb they do not put their test case for noise measurement
2017-10-27T18:04:15 < englishman> no mfg does
2017-10-27T18:04:23 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-10-27T18:04:34 < Laurenceb> I suspect they reference to ODR/2
2017-10-27T18:04:43 < Laurenceb> if I do that I get about spot on
2017-10-27T18:04:59 < Laurenceb> but PSD plot gives ~40% higher noise
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2017-10-27T18:05:44 < Laurenceb> for some reason y axis is slightly cleaner
2017-10-27T18:05:54 < Laurenceb> might not be statistically significant tho
2017-10-27T18:06:21 < Laurenceb> weird spurs in the frequency spectrum
2017-10-27T18:06:29 < Laurenceb> some of it might be my pc fan I guess
2017-10-27T18:06:39 < Laurenceb> I wonder if it can pick up audio
2017-10-27T18:07:22 < englishman> totally ordering the pink mi a1
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2017-10-27T18:07:57 < Laurenceb> thats actually cheap
2017-10-27T18:08:38 < englishman> only 'feature' it seems to lack is nfc, which i never used anyway
2017-10-27T18:09:56 < Laurenceb> > Beautify with 36 smart beauty profiles
2017-10-27T18:14:16 < englishman> damn the pink one is sold out everywhere
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2017-10-27T18:24:42 < englishman> The site looked like a portal made only for employees, but was completely exposed to anyone on the internet. It displayed several search fields, and anyone—with no authentication whatsoever—could force the site to display the personal data of Equifax's customers
2017-10-27T18:25:28 < englishman> dono why they keep referring to equifax's product as customers
2017-10-27T18:30:53 < englishman> https://drewdevault.com/2017/10/26/Fuck-you-nvidia.html
2017-10-27T18:30:54 < englishman> lol
2017-10-27T18:31:05 < englishman> So far, I’ve been speaking in terms of Sway supporting Nvidia, but this is an ass-backwards way of thinking. Nvidia needs to support Sway.
2017-10-27T18:31:11 < englishman> ok lets see wtf sway is
2017-10-27T18:31:18 < englishman> Sway, an i3-compatible tiling Wayland compositor
2017-10-27T18:31:18 < englishman> wtf
2017-10-27T18:31:29 < englishman> why nvidia give any more than 0 shits about this
2017-10-27T18:31:35 < englishman> such entitlement wow
2017-10-27T18:32:08 < BrainDamage> well, it's more like linux has a specific interface everyone agreed on, and used it
2017-10-27T18:32:19 < BrainDamage> and nvidia went 'nope, we'll invent our own'
2017-10-27T18:32:42 < BrainDamage> so a lot of users pester thousand of project devs to support nvidia's specific
2017-10-27T18:32:49 < englishman> in typical lunix fashion
2017-10-27T18:32:50 < englishman> ?
2017-10-27T18:33:08 < BrainDamage> kind of
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2017-10-27T19:34:34 < karlp> least favourite protocol name _ever_ Ethernet/IP
2017-10-27T19:53:55 < Laurenceb> error: assignment to expression with array type
2017-10-27T19:53:55 < Laurenceb>    ((int16_t(*)[9])samp)[n]=t;
2017-10-27T19:54:01 < Laurenceb> how do i c
2017-10-27T19:54:39 < karlp> no shit. how do you c.
2017-10-27T20:00:43 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: there samp is casted to a "pointer to an array of 9 int16_t's". You dereference the pointer once with [], then you assign to array :)
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2017-10-27T20:01:09 < Laurenceb> hmm ok
2017-10-27T20:01:53 < karlp> remember your basics.  a poitner to an array of 9 int16_ts, is the same as a pointer to an int16_t
2017-10-27T20:02:09 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-27T20:15:20 < Laurenceb> hmm Texane doesnt want to load an extra section to top of flash
2017-10-27T20:15:21 < Laurenceb> doh
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2017-10-27T20:20:00 < karlp> what a surprise
2017-10-27T20:22:17 < Laurenceb> I'll just cheat and use st-flash
2017-10-27T20:22:38 < Laurenceb> need to store calibration data onboard each sensor
2017-10-27T20:23:11 < karlp> superbia: or you could use something taht works properly :)
2017-10-27T20:24:28 < Laurenceb> maybe I should try to make openocd work
2017-10-27T20:28:20 < upgrdman> networking pros: regarding tcp/udp, does "port" == "socket" ?
2017-10-27T20:28:36 < BrainDam1> no
2017-10-27T20:28:57 < BrainDam1> socket is a stateful channel
2017-10-27T20:29:18 < BrainDam1> bound to a port
2017-10-27T20:29:24 < upgrdman> o ok
2017-10-27T20:30:02 < BrainDam1> note that stateful and upd is pretty much a clash of terms
2017-10-27T20:30:22 < upgrdman> ya
2017-10-27T20:41:37 < qyx> a socket doesnt have to be stateful
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2017-10-27T20:48:48 < DelvingDeeper> I have a question..I asked here the other day and was provided with some good advice but it's a little hard to use. I triggering requests to a dma via the timer(GPIO pin) is there anyway that I can check whether each request is being fulfilled? The advice was to check the values in realtime, but having it being done at higher than a MHz,is very hard to check in real time..
2017-10-27T20:48:56 < DelvingDeeper> *I'm
2017-10-27T20:50:17 < jadew> ffs.. made a GPS antenna, tuned it, then I covered it with hot glue and its frequency shifted by 200 MHz
2017-10-27T20:50:23 < jadew> *frequency response
2017-10-27T20:50:33 < Laurenceb>  covered it with hot glu
2017-10-27T20:50:35 < Laurenceb> my sides
2017-10-27T20:51:08 < englishman> you neglected to include ε of hotglue in your calculation
2017-10-27T20:51:10 < jadew> I don't have any other appropriate enclosure
2017-10-27T20:51:29 < jadew> englishman, yeah, I didn't expected that much of a shift
2017-10-27T20:51:37 < jadew> but it's easy to trim
2017-10-27T20:51:43 < englishman> DelvingDeeper: is this interchip? how do you expect your feedback signal to work
2017-10-27T20:51:49 < jadew> it's effective length grew, so the response is lower, so I can still trim it
2017-10-27T20:52:03 < BrainDamage> past 1Ghz or so you cannot ignore thick coating anymore
2017-10-27T20:52:27 < jadew> BrainDamage, yeah, I thought it wouldn't be that bad
2017-10-27T20:52:36 < englishman> i have simulated hotglue in feko successfully
2017-10-27T20:52:49 < BrainDamage> well, wavelength/10 is a good ballpark
2017-10-27T20:52:57 < BrainDamage> anything with that size, cannot be ignored
2017-10-27T20:53:01 < jadew> so about 3 er?
2017-10-27T20:53:11 < jadew> wait, 10
2017-10-27T20:53:16 < BrainDamage> unless your Q is very high, for which case you cannot ignore anything
2017-10-27T20:53:44 < DelvingDeeper> englishman: Feeling reeally stupid asking this.. what do you mean by interchip? The timer pin will be connected to an ADC which provides a clock signal and a signal when the sampling is done. The only thing my stm mcu should do is GPIO->IDR to SRAM with every new sample.
2017-10-27T20:54:27 < englishman> dono, sounds like you should just make your dma reliable enough that you assume it'll work
2017-10-27T20:55:06 < englishman> you can timestamp them or something vs. systick so you can see if there's been a fuckup and timeout
2017-10-27T20:55:28 < englishman> or more harshly, reset watchdog timer and reset entire chip
2017-10-27T20:57:32 < DelvingDeeper> englishman: Definetly, I just want to check whether the DMA actually does transfers reliably and when it starts missing beats. So maybe count the amount of rising edges received and compare that to the amount of data that the dma has received? Once I know that the DMA can operate at the required speed, I'll start implementing lots of error_handlers. My only concern is that the DMA might completely be too slow and I need to che
2017-10-27T20:57:53 < DelvingDeeper> englishman: but I removed the timer handler to speed it up, cause that was eating the mcu clock cycles
2017-10-27T20:58:05 < englishman> you could have it increment a uint32_t and count elapsed time vs your counter
2017-10-27T20:58:12 < englishman> just to spot check
2017-10-27T20:58:25 < karlp> or just look at data out the other side vs known input signals and see if you lose anything...
2017-10-27T20:58:33 < englishman> there's probably some amazing profiler that would let you see how often that function runs
2017-10-27T20:58:42 < karlp> orbtop
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2017-10-27T20:59:19 < DelvingDeeper> karlp: this was the plan, but when hitting a few Mhz, the data becomes unbearable to debug like this manually each time
2017-10-27T20:59:25 < englishman> or shove in data of increasing frequency and see when you arrive at the nyquist rate
2017-10-27T20:59:26 < karlp> itm_put(30, taskid|ENTER) and itm_put(30, taskid|EXIT) at start and end,
2017-10-27T20:59:45 < englishman> run fft on the output data
2017-10-27T21:00:01 < karlp> sounds like it's being overthought anyway.
2017-10-27T21:00:08 < englishman> ^
2017-10-27T21:00:32 < englishman> what are you sampling at 1MHz
2017-10-27T21:01:21 < englishman> this adc has parallel output?
2017-10-27T21:02:57 < DelvingDeeper> Englishman: I feel like I explained this purely. I'm using an external adc, its sampling at a lower rate(and I know that no distortion will occur) although I'm sampling 24 channels, the output is parallel via two gpio pins, so the adc sends a clock signal to the mcu each time a new sample has been sent out and the dma needs to store this to memory prior to the next sample being present. I'm scared the dma can't move the data f
2017-10-27T21:03:26 < DelvingDeeper> I just want to check that the dma can in effect move data fast enough
2017-10-27T21:03:51 < DelvingDeeper> so that every time a new rising edge is detected it can move data and not still be busy moving the data from the previous sample
2017-10-27T21:04:23 < karlp> let's put it another wya,  wheere are you going to _put_ this data.
2017-10-27T21:04:32 < karlp> because if you can _consume_ it
2017-10-27T21:04:35 < karlp> dma will be able to keep up
2017-10-27T21:04:58 < karlp> if you're at the point where you're pushing the bus matrix beyond that, you will be advanced enough taht you know how to look further and/or speak to your FAE
2017-10-27T21:05:32 < DelvingDeeper> the data will go to SRAM, as it will be a transient, it'll last for like 100 milliseconds max. If more SRAM is need I'll look into using a FMC
2017-10-27T21:06:03 < karlp> oh, you're not doing this continusouly?
2017-10-27T21:06:15 < DelvingDeeper> karlp: no more of a burst transfer
2017-10-27T21:06:25 < jadew> retuned it
2017-10-27T21:07:41 < DelvingDeeper> karlp: I'm hoping to be able to get the DMA to do transfers at 4Mhz(ideally) running a 216Mhz dma clock. I've set the code up, just not sure if its missing edges
2017-10-27T21:09:06 < DelvingDeeper> Also thanks again for everyone always chiming in and helping me, this live chat has helped me learn a lot and pushed me to use the reference manual to learn to program the registers directly
2017-10-27T21:11:03 < qyx> DelvingDeeper: DMA serving the ADC running at 4Msps on a 60MHz F303 works
2017-10-27T21:11:56 < englishman> interesting project
2017-10-27T21:12:02 < DelvingDeeper> qyx: yeah I know it can theoretically work, just scared my code has too much overhead.
2017-10-27T21:12:22 < jpa-> DelvingDeeper: if you have DCMI peripheral available, it can take parallel input data at ~50MHz with no problem; but yeah, for 4 MHz normal DMA should work also
2017-10-27T21:12:22 < englishman> fixed samdongs s5 by scraping corrosion off of the usb charging pins
2017-10-27T21:12:35 < jpa-> DelvingDeeper: it's quite hard to actually add overhead to DMA :P
2017-10-27T21:12:48 < qyx> DelvingDeeper: which periph are you transferring from?
2017-10-27T21:12:59 < qyx> for example ADC has an overrun flag
2017-10-27T21:13:11 < qyx> if the DMA is too slow and misses a sample
2017-10-27T21:13:14 < DelvingDeeper> jpa: trust me, I'm the kind off guy that can pull anything off :p
2017-10-27T21:13:51 < DelvingDeeper> qyx: just two GPIO pins connected to an external ADC
2017-10-27T21:14:07 < DelvingDeeper> Ill post a pic of the ADC
2017-10-27T21:14:52 < qyx> did you dong up your custom adc?
2017-10-27T21:15:20 < DelvingDeeper> qyx: nope, just one provided by analog devices
2017-10-27T21:15:36 < DelvingDeeper> qyx: just finished my undergrad, not on that level..yet :p
2017-10-27T21:16:25 < DelvingDeeper> This is what it looks like, its the Analog devices AD7761, I'm using three of these in a daisy chained mode to get 24 channels out of it: https://imgur.com/a/ifsVs
2017-10-27T21:18:30 < DelvingDeeper> So the other ADC's output into Dout 6 and Dout 7 and the total is output via Dout1 and Dout 2. Dclk provides the clock to the mcu to let it know when new data is available and when the samples are all sent out, a pulse is sent on drdy
2017-10-27T21:21:44 < DelvingDeeper> But I feel like I've spammed the chat enough. I'll look into  what you guys have said and see if I can figure this out. Thanks again for the help!
2017-10-27T21:24:11 < englishman> feel free to chat any time, this is a free chat channel
2017-10-27T21:24:47 < englishman> and say hi to yolandi
2017-10-27T21:25:15 < BrainDamage> at least your spam is ontopic, unlike mine, or worse, LoRanceb
2017-10-27T21:25:21 < DelvingDeeper> englishman: Thanks a lot, really appreciate it!
2017-10-27T22:01:11 < Laurenceb> wtf my SOF interrupts are irregular
2017-10-27T22:04:37 < aandrew> you're really struglging with this
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2017-10-27T22:10:56 < Laurenceb> lel
2017-10-27T22:10:58 < Laurenceb> ok wut
2017-10-27T22:11:16 < Laurenceb> oh shit its due to missing suspend support
2017-10-27T22:11:20 < Laurenceb> thats whats going on
2017-10-27T22:13:41 < Laurenceb> ur cabin in other words
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2017-10-27T22:18:05 < Laurenceb> w e w processor load is really high
2017-10-27T22:18:11 < Laurenceb> no wonder its glitching
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2017-10-27T22:29:54 < upgrdman> wtf does "wew" mean, Laurenceb
2017-10-27T22:30:31 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPtQFI4qeoE
2017-10-27T22:30:41 < upgrdman> is that sfw? prolly now.
2017-10-27T22:30:43 < upgrdman> not*
2017-10-27T22:30:52 < upgrdman> can i has a tl;dr
2017-10-27T22:31:04 < upgrdman> ok
2017-10-27T22:31:37 < upgrdman> oh that song
2017-10-27T22:31:39 < upgrdman> lol, nice
2017-10-27T22:31:51 < upgrdman> i should that make my ringtone
2017-10-27T22:32:03 < upgrdman> like back in the '90s where everyone has annoying retarded ringtones
2017-10-27T22:33:06 < upgrdman> heh. the senior engineer at my work still uses his @aol.com email
2017-10-27T22:33:32 < upgrdman> it's prolly a good thing that humans have a limited lifespan
2017-10-27T22:45:09 < Laurenceb> lsm6 gyro noise looks seriously weird
2017-10-27T22:45:23 < Laurenceb> lis3 magno noise is as expected
2017-10-27T22:48:05 < DelvingDeeper> superbia: this looks so fuckn funny
2017-10-27T22:52:47 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/d2isTgm.png
2017-10-27T22:53:30 < Laurenceb> datasheet is 0.005
2017-10-27T22:54:38 < Laurenceb> I suspect the spurs are fans and shit
2017-10-27T22:54:47 < Laurenceb> I can feel vibration on my desk just with hands
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2017-10-27T23:00:47 < qyx> meh msl
2017-10-27T23:01:13 < qyx> my stm32f042 made a bubble from the bottom during hotair
2017-10-27T23:01:14 < Laurenceb> I wonder if the gyro is naturally a high pass device
2017-10-27T23:01:35 < Laurenceb> explaining the spectrum
2017-10-27T23:01:40 < Laurenceb> qyx: thats good
2017-10-27T23:01:48 < Laurenceb> shows the flux is working
2017-10-27T23:01:58 < qyx> wat
2017-10-27T23:02:07 < Laurenceb> bubblez
2017-10-27T23:02:25 < Laurenceb> http://www.bubblesmassage.co.uk/gallery3/
2017-10-27T23:02:33 < qyx> no, the plastic is corrupted
2017-10-27T23:02:41 < qyx> the mcu itself
2017-10-27T23:03:09 < Laurenceb> did you set the hot air to 500C or something daft?
2017-10-27T23:03:09 < englishman> you blew it up?
2017-10-27T23:03:16 < qyx> 280
2017-10-27T23:03:24 < Laurenceb> slightly hot but should be ok
2017-10-27T23:03:29  * Laurenceb uses 250
2017-10-27T23:03:32 < qyx> never saw that
2017-10-27T23:03:45 < qyx> like if there was air or whatever inside
2017-10-27T23:03:51 < qyx> which wanted to escape
2017-10-27T23:03:55 < qyx> or moisture
2017-10-27T23:04:02 < qyx> it just cracked and popped from the pcb
2017-10-27T23:14:21 < englishman> 280C?
2017-10-27T23:14:37 < englishman> seems low, i always use 350-400 on the hotair
2017-10-27T23:16:43 < qyx> I tried second one, baked for ~5min at lower temp
2017-10-27T23:16:49 < qyx> and then it soldered ok
2017-10-27T23:17:04 < qyx> those are some really old parts, 2y+
2017-10-27T23:19:31 < englishman> im sure they have been stored in low humidity environment rite
2017-10-27T23:20:04 < englishman> digikey spams you with those desi-paks for a reason!
2017-10-27T23:24:02 < qyx> for sure
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2017-10-27T23:48:11 < Laurenceb> 400C wtf
2017-10-27T23:48:42 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/xhicnQj.png
2017-10-27T23:48:47 < Laurenceb> mad pro accel is mad
2017-10-27T23:49:01 < Laurenceb> me tapping desk at 10khz sampling
2017-10-27T23:50:03 < Laurenceb> this is maxing out the M0
2017-10-27T23:50:10 < Laurenceb> looks like its just fast enough
2017-10-27T23:51:08 < Laurenceb> up to 80% cpu use with some oversampling settings
2017-10-27T23:56:27 < Laurenceb> prob need to haxor makefile to optimise it
2017-10-27T23:57:19 < upgrdman> i read that as "tapping desk at 10khz" and was like lolwut.
2017-10-27T23:57:23 < upgrdman> ladies must love you
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2017-10-28T00:00:31 < Laurenceb> bbl
2017-10-28T00:00:43 < upgrdman> time to finger!
2017-10-28T00:01:49 < DelvingDeeper> Pretty confused about this..rereading the an4031 dma app note and stumbled across this: https://imgur.com/a/vwS6N
2017-10-28T00:01:54 < DelvingDeeper> https://imgur.com/a/xGCtG
2017-10-28T00:02:50 < DelvingDeeper> I know that only 1 stream can be active per dma, so what exactly does this mean? can one dma simultaneously write to both apb1 and apb2 ?
2017-10-28T00:02:51 < upgrdman> lol, night mode fucks up screenshits too? haha
2017-10-28T00:03:08 < DelvingDeeper> Ill disable it quick!
2017-10-28T00:03:17 < upgrdman> idgaf, keep it.
2017-10-28T00:03:59 < DelvingDeeper> Nice and clean but now I'll be up till next week : https://imgur.com/a/YVZrV
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2017-10-28T00:24:56 < invzim> is usb cdc from cubemx working pretty much out of the box?
2017-10-28T00:48:04 < Thorn> tetris done
2017-10-28T00:53:41 < englishman> id say so yeah
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2017-10-28T01:17:54 < branjb> is it normal for mice to eat other dead mice?
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2017-10-28T01:33:10 < englishman> clean your apartment dude
2017-10-28T01:33:22 < branjb> lol
2017-10-28T01:40:43 < ohsix> babbabooie babbabooie babbabooie howard sterns penis
2017-10-28T01:44:24 < Thorn> how do I make self-playing tetris
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2017-10-28T01:46:24 < ohsix> first you have a 2d grid ...
2017-10-28T01:46:51 < ohsix> find where the new piece can fit optimally, then from those cases find out if it can get there with any move, and the ones it can get there from any move, which series of moves and on which tick
2017-10-28T01:46:52 < Thorn> https://codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/12175/self-playing-tetris-game
2017-10-28T01:46:59 < upgrdman> Thorn, does it need to play well?
2017-10-28T01:47:10 < upgrdman> or is like move(random()) good enough ;)
2017-10-28T01:47:53 < upgrdman> need moar tetriminos
2017-10-28T01:49:21 < Thorn> well it should look like it's trying to do something sane
2017-10-28T01:50:18 < upgrdman> i guess your logic could be "look at bottom, see if i fit anywhere as-is. no? rotate, check again. rotated 3 times? find the least-damaging place to land."
2017-10-28T01:50:19 < ohsix> you could probably do interesting planning stuff once basic piece stuff was in place
2017-10-28T01:50:30 < ohsix> upgrdman: lolwut
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2017-10-28T01:51:20 < upgrdman> ya, planning for the next tetrimino would be good, but whatever
2017-10-28T01:52:00 < upgrdman> or does ohsix want to make some ai neural net
2017-10-28T01:52:07 < upgrdman> and compete again gray beards
2017-10-28T01:52:12 < upgrdman> against*
2017-10-28T01:52:18 < branjb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44
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2017-10-28T02:09:13 < englishman> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e4c_1508966336
2017-10-28T02:16:04 < kikes> "Necessity is the mother of invention"
2017-10-28T02:20:36 < kikes> 5/5 policework englishman
2017-10-28T02:22:38 < kikes> "~ give her a ticket for driving while mentally ill ~"
2017-10-28T02:23:40 < branjb> lol
2017-10-28T02:24:17 < branjb> "I'm a county legislator" gfy
2017-10-28T02:24:26 < branjb> PTSD
2017-10-28T02:24:28 < branjb> haha holy shit
2017-10-28T02:24:49 < branjb> is your dignity worth $300?
2017-10-28T02:25:41 < englishman> http://i.imgur.com/P7RiAtO.gif
2017-10-28T02:25:59 < kikes> these people are sociopaths.. they do not know dignity
2017-10-28T02:25:59 < branjb> englishman that video triggered me
2017-10-28T02:26:08 < Thorn> crap, I also need horizontal collision detection, not just vertical
2017-10-28T02:26:40 < englishman> why would you make a tetris game where it never deletes completed lines
2017-10-28T02:26:43 < englishman> cruel man
2017-10-28T02:27:08 < Thorn> it does delete lines
2017-10-28T02:27:55 < kikes> how you liked the sequel that cannot fail englishman?
2017-10-28T02:28:05 < englishman> it was ok
2017-10-28T02:28:12 < englishman> way too hollywood tho
2017-10-28T02:28:14 < kikes> yes
2017-10-28T02:28:15 < invzim> tetris... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YOR-nAnj4I
2017-10-28T02:28:18 < branjb> englishman what's the background on that schizo
2017-10-28T02:28:23 < englishman> nothing
2017-10-28T02:28:45 < englishman> apparently that position pays $10k/year and is part time only tho
2017-10-28T02:29:13 < branjb> glad that copper didn't back down on his ticket
2017-10-28T02:29:19 < kikes> so she was without job basically?
2017-10-28T02:29:29 < branjb> yet she has a prius
2017-10-28T02:29:31 < branjb> lol
2017-10-28T02:29:54 < kikes> funny how she has calm voice when she talks to his son
2017-10-28T02:30:00 < kikes> then back to panic mode
2017-10-28T02:30:20 < branjb> lol
2017-10-28T02:30:27 < englishman> thats a 2nd generation, like 10y old +
2017-10-28T02:30:37 < kikes> where was I oh.. panic attack
2017-10-28T02:30:40 < englishman> also, it doesnt have camshaft problems
2017-10-28T02:30:47 < englishman> and gets amazing mileage
2017-10-28T02:30:56 < branjb> "i'm a taxpayer"
2017-10-28T02:30:57 < branjb> lol
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2017-10-28T02:40:04 < Laurenceb_> happy fapping https://hackaday.com/2017/10/27/jeri-ellsworth-tours-a-radio-and-tech-museum/
2017-10-28T02:40:14 < Laurenceb_> never saw this coming https://hackaday.com/2017/06/27/castar-shuts-doors/
2017-10-28T02:41:40 < kikes> I have seen Jeri Ellsworth IRL
2017-10-28T02:41:41 < englishman> hahaha
2017-10-28T02:41:57 < kikes> just before I understood who she was
2017-10-28T02:42:36 < kikes> in one event she was just hanging out with techies and riding around with kickbike
2017-10-28T02:42:43 < kikes> had some speech
2017-10-28T02:43:40 < Laurenceb_> >at one event she was attention whoring
2017-10-28T02:44:05 < kikes> actually.. probs
2017-10-28T02:46:16 < kikes> it looked like it
2017-10-28T02:47:35 < ohsix> are you scared of older women
2017-10-28T02:47:57 < ohsix> once they're old enough to not be interested there's no use for em amirite!!!!!!!1
2017-10-28T02:48:14 < kikes> a bit
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2017-10-28T02:54:03 < branjb> hey upgrdman, do you have your balancer run its pid loop at a set interval?
2017-10-28T02:55:41 < upgrdman> branjb, yes, every time it get data from the sensors. which is 75-100Hz iirc
2017-10-28T02:57:49 < branjb> just got mine up and running, trying to tune it now
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2017-10-28T02:58:54 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwAIfYcicv0
2017-10-28T03:01:35 < Thorn> is it worth it to do fpga tetris
2017-10-28T03:02:18 < sync> yes
2017-10-28T03:03:43 < ohsix> on an fpga you'd have enough sram to do an analytical solution at like 200mhz :D
2017-10-28T03:14:44 < kikes> what have you innovated today?
2017-10-28T03:15:17 < Laurenceb_> I innovated a usb imu
2017-10-28T03:15:23 < Laurenceb_> finally
2017-10-28T03:15:46 < Laurenceb_> Jaguar want me to make a 1kG version for crash test dummies
2017-10-28T03:15:51 < Laurenceb_>  $$$ tiem
2017-10-28T03:17:02 < kikes> why you?
2017-10-28T03:17:19 < kikes> as a contractor or as an employee?
2017-10-28T03:17:32 < Laurenceb_> contractor
2017-10-28T03:17:49 < Laurenceb_> they are involved in current project
2017-10-28T03:18:13 < Laurenceb_> they can create a gui in labviewto talk to audio devices
2017-10-28T03:18:50 < Laurenceb_> but if they used visual basic it could find ip addresses as well
2017-10-28T03:21:06 < Laurenceb_> It’s half an article because it doesn’t mention *why* they’re folding – or where the other $14M went…
2017-10-28T03:21:11 < Laurenceb_> lul @ the comments
2017-10-28T03:21:27 < Laurenceb_> Jeri Ellsloaded
2017-10-28T03:24:07 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/40ySuIpl.png
2017-10-28T03:24:12 < Laurenceb_> epin trolls
2017-10-28T03:24:43 < Laurenceb_> >nastygrams
2017-10-28T03:24:47 < Laurenceb_> thats a new one
2017-10-28T03:26:10 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: apparently you didn't see it coming.. happened like 4mos ago
2017-10-28T03:27:33 < Laurenceb_> yeah what were they even thinking
2017-10-28T03:27:43 < Laurenceb_> trying to develop their own console
2017-10-28T03:30:42 < kikes> how many persons do you harrash in the internets Laurenceb_ ?
2017-10-28T03:30:45 < aandrew> dunno. I would have loved CastAR with some decent CAD software support
2017-10-28T03:30:51 < aandrew> not interested in it for gaming
2017-10-28T03:30:59 < Laurenceb_> make ur own
2017-10-28T03:31:02 < sync> VR CAD is pretty 90s tho tbh
2017-10-28T03:31:13 < Laurenceb_> oh wait ST arent doing their laser projector
2017-10-28T03:31:14 < Laurenceb_> doh
2017-10-28T03:31:47 < Laurenceb_> nobody wanted laser projectors in smart phones for some reason
2017-10-28T03:31:53 < Laurenceb_> it would have been pretty cool
2017-10-28T03:32:09 < kikes> bigger screens
2017-10-28T03:32:15 < branjb> upgrdman did you ever notice that madgwick seems to take longer to converge to the correct angle than just raw data?
2017-10-28T03:32:21 < kikes> and tablets
2017-10-28T03:32:24 < Laurenceb_> time to roll ur own custom mems ic
2017-10-28T03:37:06 < upgrdman> branjb, ?
2017-10-28T03:37:21 < branjb> sec, I have a pic
2017-10-28T03:37:42 < upgrdman> at power on it takes a while if the initial quaternion != actual orientation
2017-10-28T03:37:51 < upgrdman> but after power on, it seems fine to me
2017-10-28T03:38:22 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/RJKti
2017-10-28T03:38:51 < Laurenceb_> I used openpilot EKF back in the day
2017-10-28T03:39:03 < Laurenceb_> managed to get it running at 125hz on an F1
2017-10-28T03:39:32 < branjb> when the unfiltered roll goes from -5 degrees to 20 degrees, it can immediately tell the orientation; takes the magdwick roll awhile for it to become steady
2017-10-28T03:39:42 < branjb> it basically seems less responsive
2017-10-28T03:39:57 < Laurenceb_> openpilot had poor numerical stability when I tried it,but I think thats fixed now
2017-10-28T03:40:29 < Laurenceb_> when it worked it worked well, but sometimes it would briefly produce bonkers values before self correcting
2017-10-28T03:46:04 < upgrdman> branjb, weird. maybe play with that madgwick factor... forget what it's called.
2017-10-28T03:47:17 < branjb> beta?
2017-10-28T03:47:25 < Laurenceb_> luckily I dont need any of this for vehicle stuff
2017-10-28T03:47:40 < Laurenceb_> as rest positions are fixed
2017-10-28T03:49:23 < upgrdman> branjb, ya that sounds right
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2017-10-28T03:53:36 < Laurenceb_> >I got to demo their set in New York some years back. I immediately went home and backed the kickstarter because i like it, and her, so much
2017-10-28T03:53:40 < Laurenceb_> >and her
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2017-10-28T04:11:18 < Laurenceb_> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/265/323/517.png
2017-10-28T04:11:26 < Laurenceb_> >uses Windows 8
2017-10-28T04:11:28 < Laurenceb_> lulwut
2017-10-28T04:13:11 < branjb> playing with beta seems to be helping
2017-10-28T04:13:55 < branjb> seems like beta is a tradeoff, faster converge rate at the expense of more noise
2017-10-28T04:14:33 < Laurenceb_> https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1482/24/1482243665532.jpg
2017-10-28T04:14:40 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/hjW3G
2017-10-28T04:15:01 < branjb> two hundred!
2017-10-28T04:15:04 < Laurenceb_> its a school book posting session
2017-10-28T04:23:44 < upgrdman> https://imgur.com/a/f4qKX
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2017-10-28T04:32:57 < dongs>  < Laurenceb_> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/265/323/517.png < pretty much o6 right there
2017-10-28T04:33:07 < dongs> except laptop too high end for him
2017-10-28T04:39:56 < Laurenceb_> http://hackaday.com/2017/06/27/castar-shuts-doors/#comment-3705726
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2017-10-28T04:42:02 < Laurenceb_> interview by trolls
2017-10-28T04:42:24 < Laurenceb_> today I got trolled irl, someone said I had dropped my Gay card
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2017-10-28T04:48:07 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/n1qqp939gcuz.jpg
2017-10-28T04:52:48 < Laurenceb_> lulwtf
2017-10-28T04:53:09 < Laurenceb_> almost looks like uk
2017-10-28T04:54:53 < Laurenceb_> oh no "cie"
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2017-10-28T06:13:16 < Thorn> has anyone interfaced a game controller via usb host?
2017-10-28T06:15:35 < Thorn> well I assume it's hid
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2017-10-28T06:33:36 < fenugrec> Thorn yes a long time ago. HID to PS2 / gamecube
2017-10-28T06:35:28 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt_9miKcszE
2017-10-28T06:41:06 < dongs> unfunny
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2017-10-28T08:10:42 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/dGXUkd9.gifv
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2017-10-28T08:58:54 < branjb> sweet, nexus 5x bootloop
2017-10-28T09:03:48 < englishman> aandrew just wants the interwebs from johnny mnemonic to be real
2017-10-28T09:05:25 < dongs> < Laurenceb_> http://hackaday.com/2017/06/27/castar-shuts-doors/#comment-3705726
2017-10-28T09:05:27 < dongs> hahah
2017-10-28T09:05:30 < dongs> thats the lunix on avr guy
2017-10-28T09:05:36 < dongs> no wonder he still doens't have a job
2017-10-28T09:06:36 < englishman> apparently he works at google?
2017-10-28T09:06:55 < dongs> the worst place to be at , really
2017-10-28T09:07:31 < englishman> why are you using , the cia comma
2017-10-28T09:08:45 < dongs> oh wait
2017-10-28T09:08:50 < dongs> castar shuts doors
2017-10-28T09:08:55 < dongs> i didnt read the <title>
2017-10-28T09:08:56 < dongs> fucking lol
2017-10-28T09:12:28 < dongs> hopeflly jerry ellsworthless is no longer hireable by anything serious
2017-10-28T09:13:29 < dongs> not a single completed project
2017-10-28T09:13:44 < englishman> isnt that why she did a dickstarter
2017-10-28T09:13:47 < englishman> rock bottom
2017-10-28T09:14:00 < dongs> Jeri Ellsworth (born 1974) is an American entrepreneur and autodidact computer chip designer and inventor.
2017-10-28T09:14:03 < dongs> haha what garbage
2017-10-28T09:14:10 < dongs> autodidact = fancy way of saying "college dropout"
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2017-10-28T09:14:25 < dongs> bitch probly authored that kikepedia page himself
2017-10-28T09:14:43 < dongs> "inventor"
2017-10-28T09:14:54 < dongs> ctrl+f patent, zero hits
2017-10-28T09:14:59 < dongs> what did teh bitch invent
2017-10-28T09:17:04 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyZ87wNotBg started jewtub channel again
2017-10-28T09:20:45 < dongs> My passion is creating products with amazing user experiences that ship in very high volume. Over my career, I have had the good fortune of working with highly talented product designers and in positions that allowed me to develop a wide range of technical, business, project management and leadership skills.'
2017-10-28T09:20:50 < dongs> sounds like ivan
2017-10-28T09:20:52 < dongs> they should team up
2017-10-28T09:20:58 < dongs> to inventorize something next
2017-10-28T09:21:52 < zyp> heh
2017-10-28T09:22:27 < englishman> dongs i bought a pink chink phone
2017-10-28T09:22:31 < englishman> mi a1
2017-10-28T09:23:48 < zyp> how is it?
2017-10-28T09:24:04 < zyp> seems good apart from lack of nfc
2017-10-28T09:24:14 < englishman> itl be here next week
2017-10-28T09:24:25 < englishman> and, i never used nfc on the phone i have now
2017-10-28T09:24:32 < englishman> except to read out bus tickets for fun
2017-10-28T09:24:52 < englishman> so decided i didnt care
2017-10-28T09:25:48 < dongs> ive had mi stuff, it works great
2017-10-28T09:25:50 < dongs> cheap too
2017-10-28T09:26:20 < dongs> hey, has hardware buttons
2017-10-28T09:26:24 < dongs> RIP dixel2 and other trash
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2017-10-28T09:26:33 < englishman> dixel2 is 3x the price
2017-10-28T09:26:36 < dongs> no shit
2017-10-28T09:26:38 < englishman> dixel2xl is 4x
2017-10-28T09:26:58 < englishman> and they dont come in pink
2017-10-28T09:28:45 < zyp> I don't use NFC often, but probably enough that it'd be an annoyance, so I think lack of it is a dealbreaker for me
2017-10-28T09:29:02 < englishman> what do you use it for?
2017-10-28T09:30:54 < dongs> (hes still trying to think of reasons)
2017-10-28T09:31:03 < zyp> haha
2017-10-28T09:31:17 < zyp> last I used it for was to read out the contents of some card
2017-10-28T09:31:40 < dongs> http://www.ebay.com/bhp/nfc-reader
2017-10-28T09:31:56 < dongs> weird, i expected shit to be waay cheaper
2017-10-28T09:32:02 < dongs> smartcard readers are like $2
2017-10-28T09:32:19 < zyp> hehe
2017-10-28T09:32:40 < dongs> https://psychcentral.com/news/2017/10/13/is-autism-associated-with-socioeconomic-status/127362.html
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2017-10-28T09:34:22 < zyp> I think I've also used that NFC bluetooth pairing thing once
2017-10-28T09:34:29 < zyp> but that was with somebody else's device
2017-10-28T09:34:36 < dongs> yeah me too, to my 4K cam
2017-10-28T09:34:43 < dongs> then i realized the wifi control app was absolute garbage
2017-10-28T09:34:45 < dongs> and uninstalled it
2017-10-28T09:34:47 < dongs> and didnt bother again
2017-10-28T09:34:59 < zyp> haha
2017-10-28T09:35:36 < zyp> anyway, it's not like that I use it daily, but I occasionally have cards and shit I want to read out, and just the ability to do so is nice to have
2017-10-28T09:38:18 < dongs> i found the shit inside my samdung wasnt compatible with most nfc shit i was trying to read
2017-10-28T09:38:44 < dongs> i think tehy didnt support mifare or whatever shit so you couldnt pir8 it
2017-10-28T09:39:01 < branjb> what shitty phone should i get that is not jewgle or apple?
2017-10-28T09:39:09 < dongs> that A1 looks pretty damn good
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2017-10-28T09:40:00 < dongs> i used to have mi4c and mi5 and redmi3? or someshit for throwaway phones
2017-10-28T09:40:17 < dongs> they're all < $200 and work just fine
2017-10-28T09:40:44 < branjb> redmi3 seems decent
2017-10-28T09:40:56 < branjb> all i want is something that can txt, call, and surf the web without freezing
2017-10-28T09:41:20 < dongs> all of those are more than enough for taht
2017-10-28T09:41:22 < dongs> lewl
2017-10-28T09:41:40 < dongs> its faggots like apple who make you think y ou ened to spend $900 every year on ap hone
2017-10-28T09:41:41 < zyp> the nice part about A1 is android one
2017-10-28T09:41:44 < dongs> to browse internet
2017-10-28T09:41:50 < zyp> haha
2017-10-28T09:41:51 < dongs> what the shit is android one
2017-10-28T09:41:57 < branjb> also not phoning home to nsa/china/kgb is a bonus
2017-10-28T09:42:22 < zyp> dongs, some google maintained vanilla android build shit
2017-10-28T09:42:34 < dongs> oh ok
2017-10-28T09:42:36 < dongs> for A1?
2017-10-28T09:42:43 < englishman> its where its not loaded with samdong bloatware etc
2017-10-28T09:42:47 < englishman> yes
2017-10-28T09:42:48 < zyp> basically "don't worry about vendor not releasing updates"
2017-10-28T09:42:53 < dongs> samsung bloatware is fucking great tho
2017-10-28T09:43:00 < branjb> what about https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MRZFBBH/ref=psdc_2407749011_t5_B00PLE2ROM
2017-10-28T09:43:01 < englishman> wat
2017-10-28T09:43:09 < branjb> Huawei Honor 6X
2017-10-28T09:43:13 < englishman> touchwiz shit is awful
2017-10-28T09:43:20 < dongs> huawei def spies all your shit to china
2017-10-28T09:43:27 < englishman> sure but who cares
2017-10-28T09:43:27 < dongs> they even do that in thier routers/switches
2017-10-28T09:43:33 < branjb> o
2017-10-28T09:43:34 < englishman> xiaomi does too
2017-10-28T09:43:39 < englishman> moto send your shit right to dongs
2017-10-28T09:43:44 < branjb> fuck it nokia brick phone 2017
2017-10-28T09:43:44 < englishman> sony , same
2017-10-28T09:44:04 < branjb> i'll just play snake on the shitter instead of web shit
2017-10-28T09:44:14 < dongs> branjb: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/totally_legit/162355749019 phone 4 u
2017-10-28T09:44:34 < branjb> $99
2017-10-28T09:44:35 < branjb> wtf
2017-10-28T09:44:41 < dongs> AUD
2017-10-28T09:44:43 < dongs> so like $50
2017-10-28T09:44:45 < branjb> lol
2017-10-28T09:45:14 < dongs> anyway that fucking logo
2017-10-28T09:45:20 < dongs> 100% ripoff from nokia
2017-10-28T09:45:24 < dongs> same font/style
2017-10-28T09:46:01 < englishman> why not a real moto razr
2017-10-28T09:46:04 < englishman> from 2002ish
2017-10-28T09:46:53 < branjb> i actually have one still
2017-10-28T09:46:56 < branjb> but my sim won't fit it
2017-10-28T09:47:07 < dongs> adapters are a thing
2017-10-28T09:51:45 < dongs> http://event.mi.com/en/challenge2017/mia1/ this is why englishman bought it
2017-10-28T09:51:55 < dongs> hoping to scam $30k by posting pics of burning arduinos
2017-10-28T09:52:12 < englishman> $30k wow
2017-10-28T09:52:33 < englishman> Russia/India/Vietnam/Indonesia only
2017-10-28T09:52:52 < dongs> fun fact, jerry ellsworthless never held a job for more than 2 yearsa
2017-10-28T09:53:24 < emeb_mac> but shes more famous than any of us
2017-10-28T09:53:35 < dongs> "famous"?
2017-10-28T09:53:38 < dongs> maybe at holding dicks, sure
2017-10-28T09:54:23 < englishman> if you want to be famous, grab a gun and head to a bmw dealership, it isnt hard
2017-10-28T09:54:35 < emeb_mac> 15 min
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2017-10-28T09:56:24 < branjb> what about asus zenfones
2017-10-28T09:56:27 < branjb> chinaware?
2017-10-28T10:00:56 < dongs> never used one
2017-10-28T10:01:03 < dongs> asus sounds too close to 'anus' for my liking
2017-10-28T10:10:03 < ohsix> suop
2017-10-28T10:10:12 < ohsix> do you pronounce it anooz
2017-10-28T10:10:34 < superia> morning pros
2017-10-28T10:11:51 < ohsix> re: earlier tetris buns
2017-10-28T10:12:03 < ohsix> there are some bots that can play with just 4 or 5 lines at the top
2017-10-28T10:12:27 < ohsix> you can setup some pretty deep junk when you're a computer and won't make mistakes under the crunch
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2017-10-28T10:37:16 < dongs> https://www.ebay.com/itm/gross_china_pcb/192331770490
2017-10-28T10:38:20 < superia> FREE SDK
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2017-10-28T11:39:09 < qyx> dongs: did they do the vr thing yet?
2017-10-28T11:39:32 < dongs> castar?
2017-10-28T11:39:41 < dongs> no they failed before they could figure it out
2017-10-28T11:40:16 < bababooie> Tragic.
2017-10-28T11:40:45 < ohsix> don't have to success to have fun for a few years on vc money
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2017-10-28T12:14:39 < renn0xtk9> anybody experience with IRMP on STM32 ? does it also work when you are using HAL ?
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2017-10-28T14:30:55 < renn0xtk9> using this however nothing pops up when ls-usb
2017-10-28T14:30:57 < renn0xtk9> http://pandafruits.com/stm32_primer/stm32_primer_uart.php
2017-10-28T14:31:01 < renn0xtk9> any idea?
2017-10-28T14:33:04 < jpa-> umm, why would uart show up on lsusb?
2017-10-28T14:35:30 < dongs> lol
2017-10-28T14:35:34 < dongs> some hardcore autism in that link
2017-10-28T14:35:37 < dongs> lunix Makefiles
2017-10-28T14:35:45 < renn0xtk9> jpa-   last time I did a simple uart with usb communication over a PC with a STM32 and HAL
2017-10-28T14:35:54 < renn0xtk9> I want to do the same now with StdPeriph
2017-10-28T14:36:11 < dongs> with libusb?
2017-10-28T14:36:24 < jpa-> renn0xtk9: so do you have external usart-usb converter there?
2017-10-28T14:36:45 < jpa-> or are you trying to make a software-based usb virtual serial port, which is something that code is definitely not doing
2017-10-28T14:36:53 < renn0xtk9> normally when you plug a usb device, linux kenerl will create a device file as ttyACM0 if you device emulate uart
2017-10-28T14:37:13 < jpa-> yeah, that code is using the usart on STM32, it is not emulating usart over USB
2017-10-28T14:37:57 < renn0xtk9> okay and there is nothing in the Standard periph that can already software emulate it?
2017-10-28T14:38:19 < renn0xtk9> (like HAL but not HAL becasue I have to use other library that requier standard periph)
2017-10-28T14:38:46 < jpa-> the usb library is a separate part for stdperiph
2017-10-28T14:39:59 < renn0xtk9> okay I see
2017-10-28T14:40:06 < renn0xtk9> this is what I have done wiht HAL btw Okay so actually I should use the usb l
2017-10-28T14:40:12 < renn0xtk9> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZjnCOun1wU
2017-10-28T14:41:29 < renn0xtk9> can't find any tutorial on how to use usb with stantard library . Do you happen to know one?
2017-10-28T14:42:11 < jpa-> no, i've never touched any of the ST's libraries
2017-10-28T14:42:51 < renn0xtk9> you use HAL?
2017-10-28T14:43:04 < jpa-> no
2017-10-28T14:43:28 < renn0xtk9> what do you do?
2017-10-28T14:43:58 < jpa-> direct register access, libopencm3, chibios, nuttx, whatever fits the project
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2017-10-28T14:45:53 < dongs> i use lunix
2017-10-28T14:45:53 < renn0xtk9> okay
2017-10-28T14:46:24 < dongs> jpa, im curious when nuttx fits a project
2017-10-28T14:46:58 < jpa-> i'm still not sure whether it does - it seemed to, and still i can't definitely say there would have been a better approach
2017-10-28T14:47:37 < renn0xtk9> Do you know were to get the Standard Periph library for USB? on ST i only find this STM32CubeMx stuff to download. They have very nice pdfs and then nowhere to DL the stuff....
2017-10-28T14:47:47 < dongs> for F1?
2017-10-28T14:47:51 < renn0xtk9> yeah
2017-10-28T14:48:03 < dongs> http://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stsw-stm32121.html
2017-10-28T14:48:13 < dongs> ignore "migrate to stmaids" thing.
2017-10-28T14:48:20 < dongs> that download has USB device code + examples.
2017-10-28T14:48:37 < dongs> http://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stsw-stm32054.html
2017-10-28T14:48:39 < dongs> and latest stdperiph
2017-10-28T14:51:39 < renn0xtk9> and a nice not working "Create an Account " stuff to efficiently prevent user form using their product ..
2017-10-28T14:51:53 < dongs> oh yeah, requiring login to get their shit is assinine
2017-10-28T14:52:07 < dongs> don't bother creating account, just use a temp email
2017-10-28T14:52:15 < dongs> bu the link they send you can only be opened once
2017-10-28T14:52:27 < dongs> you'll need to exit browser and re-send new email to download the 2nd file
2017-10-28T14:53:07 < dongs> whatever shit cookies/ something they set won't let 2nd link open
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2017-10-28T14:53:20 < dongs> i finally stole one of coworkers account
2017-10-28T14:57:57 < renn0xtk9> okay
2017-10-28T15:07:41 < renn0xtk9> how do they want us to use it
2017-10-28T15:07:49 < renn0xtk9> there is not a project file nothing
2017-10-28T15:15:32 < renn0xtk9> do you understand what to do with it?
2017-10-28T15:15:49 < renn0xtk9> like puked a lot of file in the middle
2017-10-28T15:15:58 < renn0xtk9> with now instruction on how to link it to your sutff
2017-10-28T15:19:33 < dongs> there are examples for both stdperiph and usb host lib.
2017-10-28T15:19:39 < dongs> try unzipping the files.
2017-10-28T15:19:51 < renn0xtk9> yeah i did i can see the sources and stuff
2017-10-28T15:19:54 < dongs> ive used both, but for USB shit you literalyl just add the files and call a couple things from there to setup.
2017-10-28T15:20:05 < dongs> there's example proejcts for HID, CDC , etc.
2017-10-28T15:20:07 < dongs> MSC
2017-10-28T15:20:09 < dongs> bbl
2017-10-28T15:20:18 < renn0xtk9> but if you have no project file you can not even test compile it
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2017-10-28T15:21:15 < renn0xtk9> that is why makefile are made.
2017-10-28T15:29:24 < renn0xtk9> you need to use their own board to use this
2017-10-28T15:29:30 < renn0xtk9> otherwise you nearly can't
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2017-10-28T15:36:06 < dongs> wut
2017-10-28T15:36:18 < dongs> USB on F1 is on same pins
2017-10-28T15:36:20 < dongs> across entire family
2017-10-28T15:37:04 < renn0xtk9> in platform_config.h it will search for a header that matches the evaluation board
2017-10-28T15:37:08 < renn0xtk9> e.g. Evaluation board
2017-10-28T15:37:20 < renn0xtk9> sorry $#$# eclipse...
2017-10-28T15:37:24 < renn0xtk9> e.g. "stm32303c_eval.h"
2017-10-28T15:37:33 < dongs> are you not able of modifying simple C header files to suit your environment?
2017-10-28T15:38:02 < renn0xtk9> if you have this you are http://www.hotmcu.com/stm32f103tb-arm-cortex-m3-development-board-p-222.html?cPath=1_20 you are fucked up
2017-10-28T15:38:11 < dongs> no, you're not
2017-10-28T15:38:18 < dongs> < dongs> USB on F1 is on same pins
2017-10-28T15:38:46 < renn0xtk9> so just one board at the random you mean?
2017-10-28T15:39:14 < dongs> the board is irrelevant
2017-10-28T15:39:26 < dongs> if its F103, USB is on PA11/12 or whatever teh fuck
2017-10-28T15:39:31 < dongs> on every F103
2017-10-28T15:40:37 < renn0xtk9> but you still need to tell him to take stm32l152d_eval.h
2017-10-28T15:40:48 < dongs> whaaaaaaaaaat
2017-10-28T15:40:52 < dongs> take WHAT DUDE
2017-10-28T15:40:52 < renn0xtk9> or you need to basically write you "stm32myownstuff.h"
2017-10-28T15:40:57 < dongs> you need liek 5 files from usb lib
2017-10-28T15:41:09 < dongs> usbd* stuff and like 5 headers
2017-10-28T15:41:34 < dongs> link your shit with STM32_USB-FS-Device_Driver
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2017-10-28T15:42:30 < dongs> < renn0xtk9> or you need to basically write you "stm32myownstuff.h"
2017-10-28T15:42:30 < dongs> 21:40 < dongs> you need liek 5 files from usb lib
2017-10-28T15:42:38 < dongs> or you can incldue wahtever teh fuck your current board.h style file is
2017-10-28T15:42:41 < dongs> that defines stuff
2017-10-28T15:42:51 < dongs> assuming you even need it
2017-10-28T15:52:55 < bababooie> Why is it when a pointer is passed to a struct that is huuuuge why does the pointer why does that pointer stay so small? Is a good metaphor is that a struct can be elephant and a pointer can be a picture of the same elephant. You show it to a child and they can both understand it is an elephant but one is obviously smaller and less of a hassle?
2017-10-28T15:53:11 < dongs> wut
2017-10-28T15:53:14 < zyp> wat
2017-10-28T15:53:20 < dongs> a pointer is a pointer, it has nothing to do with struct size
2017-10-28T15:53:38 < zyp> a pointer is a memory address
2017-10-28T15:53:52 < zyp> it's the location of your elephant
2017-10-28T15:53:55 < renn0xtk9> bababooie yes it is a good metaphore
2017-10-28T15:54:10 < dongs> no its not
2017-10-28T15:54:17 < dongs> a pointer is not a smaller picture of the big thing
2017-10-28T15:55:15 < zyp> dongs, these london subway stations remind me of you
2017-10-28T15:55:24 < dongs> yeah?
2017-10-28T15:55:27 < dongs> you mean they're shit?
2017-10-28T15:55:27 < renn0xtk9> dongs, that is not what is meant with the metaphore
2017-10-28T15:55:31 < zyp> I'm currently on a train to cockfosters
2017-10-28T15:55:40 < renn0xtk9> so I remove the platofrm related stuff but still canot compile
2017-10-28T15:55:44 < renn0xtk9> loads of things undefined
2017-10-28T15:55:54 < dongs> zyp, how are you even chatting
2017-10-28T15:56:02 < zyp> phone
2017-10-28T15:56:04 < dongs> subway has no LTE
2017-10-28T15:56:17 < dongs> i lost signal the minute i went downstairs
2017-10-28T15:56:23 < zyp> currently in an overground area
2017-10-28T15:56:26 < dongs> ah.
2017-10-28T15:57:01 < englishman> 8:53 AM <zyp> it's the location of your elephant
2017-10-28T15:57:09 < englishman> innovative chats this morning
2017-10-28T16:00:16 < zyp> englishman, glad I could help
2017-10-28T16:01:09 < englishman> surprised there's no LTE in the subway, I assumed for some reason UK was 1st world
2017-10-28T16:01:15 < zyp> haha
2017-10-28T16:01:18 < zyp> no
2017-10-28T16:01:29 < dongs> ya it was fucking ridiculous
2017-10-28T16:01:35 < zyp> these trains are retardef
2017-10-28T16:01:46 < englishman> heh
2017-10-28T16:01:50 < dongs> subway in teh fucking center of londongs and its a complete communication blackout
2017-10-28T16:02:04 < zyp> there's not even power smoothing for the lights
2017-10-28T16:02:11 < renn0xtk9> it says synta error on a: extern  __IO uint32_t bDeviceState; /* USB device status */         ;    any idaea whats that?
2017-10-28T16:02:19 < zyp> so they flicker constantly
2017-10-28T16:02:31 < englishman> english electronics
2017-10-28T16:03:01 < dongs> "syntax"?
2017-10-28T16:03:09 < dongs> you mean the part wehre __IO isn't defined?
2017-10-28T16:03:27 < zyp> hmm, getting closer to central, will probably be underground again soon
2017-10-28T16:03:32 < dongs> just ~#include "stm32f10x.h"
2017-10-28T16:03:33 < renn0xtk9> seems to me like it is not deined yes
2017-10-28T16:03:59 < dongs> __IO is just volatile, I too wish ST would stop using retarded types
2017-10-28T16:04:06 < dongs> its not like tehy have 230 opensores compilers to support
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2017-10-28T16:10:07 < bababooie> Thank you for the help ^__^
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2017-10-28T16:58:26 < Rob235> hio
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2017-10-28T17:15:53 < renn0xtk9> this openstm32 wokrbench is such a shit
2017-10-28T17:16:12 < renn0xtk9> it does not even re-actualize itself when you save a file and ask for a rebuidld
2017-10-28T17:18:20 < renn0xtk9> I got a bug in  	@echo 'Building file: $<'
2017-10-28T17:18:26 < renn0xtk9> in a submidr.mk file
2017-10-28T17:19:02 < renn0xtk9> while the reatard Problmes view of eclipse syas fatal error hw_config.h no such firl or direcotry
2017-10-28T17:19:14 < renn0xtk9> the issue is I nowhere ask to inlcude this fiel..
2017-10-28T17:20:03 < renn0xtk9> anybody has an idea?
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2017-10-28T17:37:43 < zyp> london traffic is also shit
2017-10-28T17:37:52 < zyp> currently on a bus
2017-10-28T17:38:04 < branjb> they have irc on a bus?
2017-10-28T17:38:37 < zyp> sure
2017-10-28T17:38:43 < Laurenceb_> zyp in UK?
2017-10-28T17:38:55 < Laurenceb_> dude use the tube
2017-10-28T17:39:03 < Laurenceb_> >going above ground in London
2017-10-28T17:39:04 < Laurenceb_> >ever
2017-10-28T17:39:07 < zyp> Laurenceb_, I warned you some weeks ago
2017-10-28T17:39:13 < zyp> and yes
2017-10-28T17:39:24 < zyp> I'd use the tube
2017-10-28T17:39:49 < Laurenceb_> wurk trip?
2017-10-28T17:39:53 < zyp> but it turns out the line past my hotel is shut down all weekend
2017-10-28T17:39:59 < zyp> no
2017-10-28T17:40:13 < Laurenceb_>  >goes on holiday to UK
2017-10-28T17:40:20 < Laurenceb_>  >goes to London
2017-10-28T17:40:29 < Laurenceb_> dude whyyyy
2017-10-28T17:40:31 < zyp> haha
2017-10-28T17:40:37 < Laurenceb_> enjoy ur "london dungeon"
2017-10-28T17:40:45 < Laurenceb_> and madame tussords
2017-10-28T17:41:06 < Laurenceb_> and "massive golf sale"
2017-10-28T17:41:43 < Laurenceb_> and 2x overpriced everything
2017-10-28T17:41:49 < zyp> dude
2017-10-28T17:41:59 < zyp> I'm from norway
2017-10-28T17:42:03 < kikes> zyp, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKUmtrRGNSNTI1azg/view?usp=sharing take a listen of this.. does it sound like it should?
2017-10-28T17:42:05 < Laurenceb_> lel
2017-10-28T17:42:14 < kikes> loud alert
2017-10-28T17:42:16 < zyp> anywhere is cheap in comparison
2017-10-28T17:42:46 < kikes> full power heating
2017-10-28T17:43:02 < zyp> kikes, not now
2017-10-28T17:44:21 < Laurenceb_> what is that?
2017-10-28T17:44:24 < Laurenceb_> transformer?
2017-10-28T17:44:44 < Laurenceb_> also, electrical heating?!
2017-10-28T17:45:04 < Laurenceb_> some crazy decision making on show here
2017-10-28T17:45:33 < kikes> you don't recognize a mini split ac?
2017-10-28T17:45:53 < Laurenceb_> ah ac
2017-10-28T17:46:05 < Laurenceb_> can't see from weird camera angle
2017-10-28T17:46:17 < Laurenceb_> does it work?
2017-10-28T17:46:38 < kikes> yes
2017-10-28T17:47:10 < kikes> for now
2017-10-28T17:47:30 < renn0xtk9> got RCC_APB2PeriphClockCmd undefined althouthg including #include "stm32f10x_rcc.h"
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2017-10-28T17:58:34 < dongs> is there even apb2 on f1
2017-10-28T17:58:49 < dongs> you dont need to include _rcc, you fucking idiot
2017-10-28T17:59:01 < dongs> why hte fuck are you STILL trying to figure out include files dude?
2017-10-28T17:59:03 < dongs> its been like 5 hours
2017-10-28T17:59:17 < dongs> it took me like 5 minutes to turn USB device sample into code I can put into my project
2017-10-28T17:59:20 < renn0xtk9> because otherwise you have lodas of undefined
2017-10-28T17:59:24 < renn0xtk9> good for you
2017-10-28T17:59:33 < dongs> wat
2017-10-28T17:59:50 < dongs> you need to incldue stm32f10x_conf.h which pulls in all the device headers
2017-10-28T18:00:04 < renn0xtk9> good
2017-10-28T18:00:08 < dongs> and USE_STDPERIPHLIB define (or something similar) to make stm32f1xx.h usable with stdperiph
2017-10-28T18:00:11 < renn0xtk9> then you copy paste the source from the example
2017-10-28T18:00:13 < renn0xtk9> and in those
2017-10-28T18:00:33 < renn0xtk9> they refre to other things
2017-10-28T18:00:37 < dongs> no,.
2017-10-28T18:00:44 < renn0xtk9> e.gi ID1
2017-10-28T18:00:52 < dongs> wut. just trash taht shit.
2017-10-28T18:00:59 < dongs> thats for their stupid serial number crap
2017-10-28T18:01:07 < dongs> you dont even need to use that code.
2017-10-28T18:01:42 < renn0xtk9> If I "trash" the source code that make the USB to UART emulation then perhaps it will compile but will I have USB to UART emulaiotn?
2017-10-28T18:02:56 < renn0xtk9> dongs?
2017-10-28T18:03:24 < dongs> does whatever lunix garbage youuse not allow you to fucking search the headers/source files
2017-10-28T18:03:45 < dongs> so that you cant immediately tell what ID1/2/3 is used for
2017-10-28T18:04:01 < dongs> and then see the function using them and wehre its called and simply take that out?
2017-10-28T18:04:25 < renn0xtk9> and that is what takes me five hours becasue you have to search lodas of them, compile, see what is lacking find it compile see what is lacking...
2017-10-28T18:04:59 < dongs> sorry to haer taht your compiler is that bad.
2017-10-28T18:05:08 < dongs> I use armcc, and while its slow, its not THAT slow.
2017-10-28T18:05:24 < renn0xtk9> I use this eclipse openstm32 workbench
2017-10-28T18:05:25 < dongs> i think it builds that usb-fs lib CDC example in maybe.. 2-3 seconds
2017-10-28T18:05:30 < renn0xtk9> as advised by ST ..
2017-10-28T18:05:45 < dongs> ST doesn't actually use that shit because its cancer
2017-10-28T18:05:49 < dongs> they use keil
2017-10-28T18:06:41 < renn0xtk9> cancer start when the ship project folder without project file ^^
2017-10-28T18:07:22 < dongs> what
2017-10-28T18:07:27 < dongs> they have project files for 4 IDEs
2017-10-28T18:07:36 < dongs> MDK-ARM being one of them
2017-10-28T18:07:42 < dongs> in each example project
2017-10-28T18:07:50 < renn0xtk9> never heard of mdk arm
2017-10-28T18:07:56 < dongs> its not for lunix
2017-10-28T18:07:58 < dongs> so probl why
2017-10-28T18:08:07 < dongs> lunix users are busy writing shit ilke this https://github.com/posva/catimg
2017-10-28T18:08:14 < renn0xtk9> If it is not for linux, then it is not for development ^^
2017-10-28T18:08:49 < renn0xtk9> Never heard of anybody make development on windows, env , apart for game developers ^^
2017-10-28T18:11:23 < renn0xtk9> OMG
2017-10-28T18:11:43 < renn0xtk9> ST is using macro that will rename (part) of a function name :X
2017-10-28T18:11:50 < renn0xtk9> *redcard*
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2017-10-28T18:15:39 < dongs> what
2017-10-28T18:16:28 < renn0xtk9> they use a macro that share name of a function
2017-10-28T18:16:33 < renn0xtk9> anyway
2017-10-28T18:16:39 < dongs> what are you even talking about
2017-10-28T18:16:43 < dongs> specific examples
2017-10-28T18:16:49 < renn0xtk9> if that was the only problem ..
2017-10-28T18:17:04 < DelvingDeeper> I have a quick question.. If I'm doing a dma request via the timer, where exactly does the request happen? in the DMA2_Stream1_IRQHAndler? so if the dma is still busy it just won't enter any of the handler functions?
2017-10-28T18:17:28 < dongs> no, DMA happens by itself
2017-10-28T18:17:41 < dongs> irq is fired when its done or half done or whatever condition you set for it.
2017-10-28T18:17:52 < dongs> it starts when you enable whatever triggers it, timer in this case
2017-10-28T18:18:48 < DelvingDeeper> dongs:ok thanks so to check the amount of requests I need to check the timers registers
2017-10-28T18:19:17 < dongs> or Channel->NDTR for the dma counts
2017-10-28T18:19:48 < dongs> hmm that catimg thing used a neat thing, https://github.com/nothings/stb
2017-10-28T18:20:01 < dongs> dude is reinventing the wheel but without any lunix dependencies
2017-10-28T18:20:02 < dongs> whcih is cool
2017-10-28T18:23:14 < renn0xtk9> the stm32_it.h
2017-10-28T18:23:21 < renn0xtk9> you should keep it right
2017-10-28T18:23:22 < renn0xtk9> ?
2017-10-28T18:23:49 < dongs> i dont, i dislike having interrupt handlers in separate file
2017-10-28T18:24:10 < renn0xtk9> okay but anyway codes they make there I should have it on the project
2017-10-28T18:24:17 < renn0xtk9> which then give me multiple def
2017-10-28T18:24:25 < superia> w e w
2017-10-28T18:24:41 < dongs> i think you better learn some C bro
2017-10-28T18:24:42 < dongs> im goin to sleep
2017-10-28T18:25:06 < renn0xtk9> well If I made an obvious mistake then tell me ?
2017-10-28T18:26:08 < renn0xtk9> okay you don't know. never mind
2017-10-28T18:26:37 < PaulFertser> st shit is shitty indeed
2017-10-28T18:28:31 < dongs> hmm this is awesome shit, bookmarked https://github.com/nothings/single_file_libs
2017-10-28T18:28:36 < dongs> now really sleeping
2017-10-28T18:29:11 < renn0xtk9> what are on those github stuff you post?
2017-10-28T18:30:30 < DelvingDeeper> dongs: So just to check I'm understanding the reference manual..the NDTR register contains the amount of values that need to still be transferred? so if you set it to transfer 80 bytes, the ndtr counts down how many transfers are left?
2017-10-28T18:30:47 < renn0xtk9> Simple fact that they provide those click n play the STCubeMx and the openstm32 workbench stuff tells a lot  i thinkg
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2017-10-28T18:36:41 < DelvingDeeper> Wait it looks like the timer CCR1 register counts the amount of edges on the input pin!
2017-10-28T18:36:59 < DelvingDeeper> oh no nvm
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2017-10-28T19:06:59 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/X9XZLlE.gifv
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2017-10-28T19:08:57 < upgrdman> dongs, https://i.imgur.com/1skdvQF.gifv
2017-10-28T19:09:17 < branjb> rip
2017-10-28T19:09:42 < branjb> is that a crawling penis?
2017-10-28T19:13:12 < BrainDamage> finally nature is picking up with japanese fantasies
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2017-10-28T19:32:12 < blacktronics> crawling :b:enis
2017-10-28T19:36:32 < renn0xtk9> dongs don't have time to explicit you the probelm I had earlier but basically everything summarize there https://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/179178
2017-10-28T19:36:36 < aandrew> must be getting old
2017-10-28T19:36:43 < renn0xtk9> ST engineer are a drama ....
2017-10-28T19:36:45 < aandrew> don't understand the latest meme of :b:whatever
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2017-10-28T20:29:26 < branjb> what's a good dense object to add mass without taking up much volume?
2017-10-28T20:29:40 < branjb> think I need more weight at the top of my robot
2017-10-28T20:30:56 < Steffanx> Gold :D
2017-10-28T20:33:20 < Steffanx> Whats wrong with some good old lead branjb?
2017-10-28T20:33:33 < renn0xtk9> ‎ How can it be that I have multiple definition of a #define that is in a header which is protected against double occlusion
2017-10-28T20:33:46 < branjb> I don't have any lead laying around except bullets
2017-10-28T20:40:05 < Steffanx> Then just add a gun on top.
2017-10-28T20:41:15 < upgrdman> on tail-heavy model airplanes, i've seen people epoxy lead shot to the inside of their cowl. lol'd irl.
2017-10-28T20:49:47 < branjb> upgrdman initially I thought my robot was too tall, or the wheels weren't fast enough, but I did some experiements with a carbon rod and a weight that I could slide up and down it at different heights
2017-10-28T20:50:01 < branjb> easiest to balance by hand was weight higher up
2017-10-28T20:50:50 < branjb> I think because mine is made of 2020, the weight of the lipo doesn't do much to make it top heavy
2017-10-28T20:52:38 < renn0xtk9> plutonium not as dense as lead i think
2017-10-28T20:52:41 < upgrdman> still no where near balancing with p-only?
2017-10-28T20:52:44 < branjb> R2COM you got any?
2017-10-28T20:52:51 < branjb> I get it really close
2017-10-28T20:53:06 < branjb> but it just falls too fast to catch up to
2017-10-28T20:53:24 < upgrdman> ya you need to react quick
2017-10-28T20:53:26 < branjb> I'd take a video but my jewgle phone bricked itself last night
2017-10-28T20:53:32 < upgrdman> how fast are you sampling the sensors
2017-10-28T20:53:36 < branjb> 120 hz
2017-10-28T20:53:39 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-28T20:53:55 < branjb> I think I got my gains in good place
2017-10-28T20:54:06 < branjb> I think it's the mechanics of the build now
2017-10-28T20:54:57 < renn0xtk9> ERROR src/common.c: map_file() == -1 when I want to flash using st-link v2 anyone an idea?
2017-10-28T20:57:33 < branjb> did you experiment with IMU near the top or bottom at all?
2017-10-28T20:57:39 < branjb> mine is center right now
2017-10-28T20:58:06 < upgrdman> branjb, oh. you need the imu in the middle of your "axle"
2017-10-28T20:58:16 < branjb> oh
2017-10-28T20:58:23 < branjb> well
2017-10-28T20:58:44 < upgrdman> otherwise youre not sensing the angle that the robot spins around
2017-10-28T20:58:45 < renn0xtk9> is there a way to test the integrity of a .bin file before flashing?
2017-10-28T20:58:56 < branjb> my IMU is on that center bar thing
2017-10-28T20:58:56 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/3kl16
2017-10-28T20:59:02 < branjb> it should be on the bottom bar?
2017-10-28T20:59:06 < upgrdman> i mean, you could probably use some matrix math to correct for it, but im not that smart
2017-10-28T20:59:47 < upgrdman> ya, like on mine, you can see a little breakout board between the servos   http://www.farrellf.com/temp/robot_pre_pcb.jpg
2017-10-28T21:00:35 < branjb> what is the reasoning for that?  same pitch whether up high or on axle, is it because the angular speed is higher higher up?
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2017-10-28T21:00:56 < upgrdman> well you want to measure the orientation of the robot about its center of rotation
2017-10-28T21:01:00 < upgrdman> and thats the axel
2017-10-28T21:01:27 < upgrdman> otherwise youre adding non-linearities
2017-10-28T21:01:49 < branjb> isn't that the same orientation anywhere along the plane of the robot?
2017-10-28T21:01:58 < upgrdman> which you can correct with matrix math if you know how or read up on it
2017-10-28T21:02:04 < upgrdman> no
2017-10-28T21:02:43 < upgrdman> anyway, got to go. bbl.
2017-10-28T21:03:12 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/WGvOR those angles are the same though
2017-10-28T21:03:21 < branjb> regardless where they are on that line
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2017-10-28T21:13:35 < aandrew> renn0xtk9: no real way to test validity of .bin. you can do some quick checks on the vector table (make sure SP points to RAM, verify all vectors point somewhere in flash) and you can make sure that the length of course fits in flash, but that's about it
2017-10-28T21:21:22 < Steffanx> Heh. 9 sec too late aandrew
2017-10-28T21:21:30 < Steffanx> 11*
2017-10-28T21:26:38 < englishman> what a funny guy
2017-10-28T21:26:51 < englishman> according to his thughub he's making a usb-i2c adapter
2017-10-28T21:27:05 < aandrew> oh I didn't realize he left
2017-10-28T21:27:22 < englishman> aandrew
2017-10-28T21:27:24 < englishman> hi
2017-10-28T21:27:28 < englishman> did you see the news
2017-10-28T21:27:39 < englishman> your power bill will double soon
2017-10-28T21:27:43 < aandrew> yeah
2017-10-28T21:27:44 < englishman> yay wynne
2017-10-28T21:27:51 < englishman> tax those english
2017-10-28T21:27:52 < aandrew> this will just drive more solar development
2017-10-28T21:28:03 < aandrew> in fact I have looked at a natural gas generator for the house
2017-10-28T21:28:04 < englishman> solar? In your country?
2017-10-28T21:28:06 < englishman> Lololol
2017-10-28T21:28:16 < englishman> Solar requires sun
2017-10-28T21:28:18 < aandrew> englishman: I actually have the perfect roof slope for it
2017-10-28T21:28:27 < aandrew> granted it's not gonna be arizona
2017-10-28T21:28:50 < englishman> I highly advise you do the math
2017-10-28T21:28:57 < aandrew> but I could buy one of those natural gas generators at home depot, install it and run it instead of hydro for cheaper
2017-10-28T21:29:02 < englishman> nrcan has excellent insolation data
2017-10-28T21:29:09 < aandrew> yep I remember looking at it
2017-10-28T21:29:13 < englishman> that could be true yea
2017-10-28T21:29:28 < aandrew> the only real issue is that those natgas generators are not meant for continuous duty
2017-10-28T21:29:49 < englishman> Spot CNG rates have been negative in BC
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2017-10-28T21:29:54 < aandrew> but if I ran solar for base load and kicked the natgas on for peak (A/C mainly) it might be doable
2017-10-28T21:30:28 < englishman> that would be so cool to go offgrid in the middle of the city
2017-10-28T21:30:31 < aandrew> but I'd want to completely disconnect from the grid, those fuckers want to charge you the fees even if your draw is 0kWh
2017-10-28T21:30:38 < englishman> shit yeah
2017-10-28T21:31:32 < aandrew> maybe I'll just run a really long cable to la belle province
2017-10-28T21:34:57  * englishman sits in his 18kW hot tub
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2017-10-28T21:35:15 < sync> aandrew: get a CAT cng engine and it will run 24/7/365 without issue
2017-10-28T21:36:11 < sync> https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/power-systems/electric-power-generation/gas-generator-sets/1000003143.html
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2017-10-28T21:43:15 < aandrew> hahaa love to see that installed in the back 40
2017-10-28T21:44:18 < aandrew> 800kW is the smallest
2017-10-28T22:01:31 < sync> nah
2017-10-28T22:01:34 < sync> 50kW
2017-10-28T22:02:38 < Fleck> naah 10kW
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2017-10-28T22:17:56 < branjb> the #'s for cost of solar vs power generated doesn't even make sense in arizona
2017-10-28T22:18:06 < branjb> gov't funded meme
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2017-10-28T22:43:50 < renn0xtk9> assume you make a virtual com Port over usb via stm32f1, anyreason why it would not list in lsusb?
2017-10-28T22:50:29 < jpa-> check dmesg
2017-10-28T22:50:44 < jpa-> if you get no enumeration messages, the 1.5k pull-up is not getting activated
2017-10-28T22:50:58 < jpa-> if you get enumeration messages, it is one of the 999 other possible problems
2017-10-28T22:52:24 < renn0xtk9> I got Device not responding to setup address    device not accepting address 47, error -71
2017-10-28T22:52:31 < renn0xtk9> which I don't know how to interpret
2017-10-28T22:53:07 < renn0xtk9> issue is  I copy pasted the example of  STM32, which is basically an ocean of #define
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2017-10-28T23:14:56 < renn0xtk9> jpa how do I activate the 1.5k pull-up?
2017-10-28T23:34:12 < Thorn> in your case the host is attempting enumeration so it is activated
2017-10-28T23:35:14 < Thorn> your problem is your device does not respond to standard control requests
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2017-10-28T23:39:07 < renn0xtk9> Thorn any idea which part I should look liked? I tried to copy paste the example from ST about Virtual COMPORT
2017-10-28T23:39:27 < renn0xtk9> but their code is the asbolute worst things I have ever seen
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2017-10-28T23:40:28 < renn0xtk9> That would mean that the USB is somehow not correctly initialized or somethig on the mcu ?
2017-10-28T23:42:17 < Laurenceb_> kikes: Coras is fixed
2017-10-28T23:42:27 < Laurenceb_> it was the brakes that had broken
2017-10-28T23:43:32 < Laurenceb_> part of the rear brake mechanism had rusted away, I replaced it with some M4 threaded bar
2017-10-28T23:46:23 < Thorn> renn0xtk9: it could be anything, e.g., your usb core is not properly clocked
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2017-10-28T23:48:38 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/AL6oEc4
2017-10-28T23:48:42 < Laurenceb_> looks fun tbh
2017-10-28T23:49:45 < renn0xtk9> if one day I meet those ST technicians
2017-10-28T23:49:49 < renn0xtk9> i kill them ^^
2017-10-28T23:50:19 < renn0xtk9> they are an example of what not to do
2017-10-28T23:51:01 < Laurenceb_> heh
2017-10-28T23:51:08 < PaulFertser> renn0xtk9: do you know a vendor that doesn't provide shitty sdks/bsps?
2017-10-28T23:51:11 < Laurenceb_> let me guess, st hal?
2017-10-28T23:51:38 < renn0xtk9> Laurenceb_ no I am not even using hal
2017-10-28T23:51:46 < renn0xtk9> hal would be good if reliable
2017-10-28T23:51:56 < Laurenceb_> >if reliable
2017-10-28T23:52:04 < Laurenceb_> yeah about that..
2017-10-28T23:53:11 < renn0xtk9> being given that some people manage to make space ship reliable, I would say an hardware abstraction layer of s microcontoler should not be beyond reach, especially not when you are the chip manufacturer itself...
2017-10-28T23:53:17 < renn0xtk9> but apparently..
2017-10-28T23:54:07 < renn0xtk9> it is totally oftopic but I suspect the technical lead at ST to be british ^^
2017-10-28T23:55:06 < PaulFertser> Why?
2017-10-28T23:56:13 < Laurenceb_>  *triggered*
2017-10-28T23:56:17 < renn0xtk9> From my experience it smells british mentality behind it
2017-10-28T23:56:26 < renn0xtk9> nothing insulting in that
2017-10-28T23:56:40 < renn0xtk9> everyone has its culture/mentality with pros and cons
2017-10-28T23:57:04 < Laurenceb_> aiui there is close to 0 ST stuff in UK
2017-10-28T23:57:09 < Laurenceb_> so that seems unlikely
2017-10-28T23:57:22 < renn0xtk9> hmm shit ! missed ! ^^
2017-10-28T23:57:31 < renn0xtk9> at least a project leader maybe?
2017-10-28T23:57:40 < PaulFertser> Sigh, I expected some really nice crushing punchine there...
2017-10-28T23:57:43 < renn0xtk9> or USA ? ^^
2017-10-28T23:57:46 < PaulFertser> You're disappointing renn0xtk9
2017-10-28T23:57:58 < renn0xtk9> What do you mean?
2017-10-28T23:58:32 < PaulFertser> I expected some funny joke mocking british.
2017-10-28T23:58:41 < renn0xtk9> ah ^^
2017-10-28T23:58:44 < renn0xtk9> no joke ^^
2017-10-28T23:59:06 < PaulFertser> Especially given Laurenceb_ is from the UK ;)
2017-10-28T23:59:30 < PaulFertser> You need to learn to troll properly here.
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2017-10-29T00:00:32 < renn0xtk9> The point I make is  when it comes to technology  the refain of UKyers could be "Why should be do things like everyone does if we can be at least as unefficient by doing differently" . It it seems to be was drove the ST stuff and the way they provide their code example and stuff..
2017-10-29T00:00:52 < renn0xtk9> but it is no troll someimes it has its adavantages
2017-10-29T00:01:03 < PaulFertser> Like driving to the left?
2017-10-29T00:01:17 < renn0xtk9> ;) among others ..
2017-10-29T00:02:05 < PaulFertser> That certainly makes plenty of sense! When you have a car with a steering wheel on the right.
2017-10-29T00:02:59 < renn0xtk9> Indeed ^^ thanks got, they did not (so far) came to the idea to make cars with sterring wheel in the middle then ^^
2017-10-29T00:03:00 < PaulFertser> crt: who is the nigger of Australia?
2017-10-29T00:05:20  * Laurenceb_ huffs some petrol
2017-10-29T00:05:34 < Laurenceb_> Scottish are worse
2017-10-29T00:05:39 < Laurenceb_> deep fried mars bars
2017-10-29T00:08:57 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/eFvZzkb
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2017-10-29T00:31:39 < qyx> how should I bootload on the m0 without the vtor
2017-10-29T00:33:42 < qyx> remap ram to 0 and copy the vector table there?
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2017-10-29T00:57:53 < zyp> can you do that during runtime?
2017-10-29T01:00:43 < qyx> after boot, go directly tot he bootloader
2017-10-29T01:00:55 < qyx> it remaps ram and copy its own vector table
2017-10-29T01:01:20 < qyx> or it doesn't have to, because bootloader vector table can be in the flash
2017-10-29T01:01:31 < qyx> and then before jumping to the app code
2017-10-29T01:01:34 < qyx> disable all interrupts
2017-10-29T01:01:42 < zyp> but can you change whether flash or ram is mapped to 0 during runtime?
2017-10-29T01:01:43 < qyx> remap ram, copy app vector table
2017-10-29T01:01:55 < qyx> ah
2017-10-29T01:02:14 < qyx> it should be possible, I found some blags on the internet describing it
2017-10-29T01:02:40 < zyp> I haven't looked that hard into f0
2017-10-29T01:03:28 < qyx> I found it now
2017-10-29T01:03:42 < zyp> but if there's a register that lets you map 0x20000000 to 0x0, that would be equivalent to setting SCB_VTOR to 0x20000000
2017-10-29T01:03:43 < qyx> it is described in the boot configuration section in the F0 rm
2017-10-29T01:04:43 < qyx> they are describing the same procedure
2017-10-29T01:05:29 < qyx> so apparently yeah, it is the same as setting the vtor register
2017-10-29T01:05:34 < zyp> qyx, so what's the register controlling it?
2017-10-29T01:05:38 < qyx> + the vector table copy step
2017-10-29T01:05:43 < zyp> yeah
2017-10-29T01:05:51 < qyx> syscfg1
2017-10-29T01:05:59 < zyp> okay
2017-10-29T01:06:33 < Tectu> crt, that is incorrect
2017-10-29T01:06:50 < zyp> hmm, maybe the best would be to let the firmware handle setting up the vector table itself then
2017-10-29T01:07:29 < qyx> chage the init sequence of the app firmware to remap ram to 0 and copy its vector table?
2017-10-29T01:07:43 < zyp> writing a bootloader for that, I'd fill out the first four with copies of the bootloader's, then remap, then jump to app firmware
2017-10-29T01:08:03 < zyp> then let app firmware worry about copying the rest
2017-10-29T01:08:33 < englishman> welcome Tec-chu
2017-10-29T01:08:42 < zyp> rationale is that app firmware won't work unmodified anyway, since you need to reserve ram for vector table
2017-10-29T01:09:05 < qyx> true
2017-10-29T01:09:12 < zyp> and the easiest way to reserve it is to just put it there in the linker script, and once you're doing that, just have startup code initialize it along with .data and .bss
2017-10-29T01:09:33 < qyx> mhm, linker script
2017-10-29T01:09:46 < qyx> what about the > ram define in the linker script?
2017-10-29T01:09:47 < zyp> I mean, just put the table in the start of .data and everything should just work
2017-10-29T01:09:54 < qyx> doing it like the .data section
2017-10-29T01:10:04 < zyp> yeah
2017-10-29T01:10:27 < zyp> the startup code won't know about it if it's a separate section, so you'd need to add it there too
2017-10-29T01:10:34 < zyp> if you don't put it in .data itself
2017-10-29T01:14:23 < qyx> there is a line __attribute__ ((section(".vectors")))
2017-10-29T01:14:37 < qyx> before defining the vector table vector_table_t vector_table = {
2017-10-29T01:14:46 < qyx> looking at the ld file
2017-10-29T01:14:51 < qyx> it should be possible to change it to .data
2017-10-29T01:15:20 < zyp> that's the input section name to the linker script
2017-10-29T01:15:33 < zyp> linker script can map input whatever to reside in any output sector
2017-10-29T01:16:35 < qyx> or just move the *(.vectors) from .text to .data
2017-10-29T01:16:41 < qyx> in the linker script
2017-10-29T01:16:58 < zyp> yes
2017-10-29T01:16:58 < qyx> meh
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2017-10-29T01:50:56 < Laurenceb_> why does this exist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSiP7ymdmds
2017-10-29T01:51:01 < Laurenceb_> also neckbeard
2017-10-29T01:51:18 < Laurenceb_> lul @his garden
2017-10-29T01:51:22 < Laurenceb_> dude fix ur fence
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2017-10-29T02:21:16 < branjb> how does this stuff like X-CUBE-SPN1 work with STM32CubeMX?  seems like X-CUBE-SPN1 is just a zipped up project
2017-10-29T02:28:52 < dongs> hmm i forgot. wasnt there a manual add module thing somewehre in help
2017-10-29T02:30:02 < branjb> that would be really nice
2017-10-29T02:30:40 < branjb> I mean, it sounds like that's what you're supposed to be able to do
2017-10-29T02:30:45 < branjb> but I can't figure out how
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2017-10-29T03:43:22 < upgrdman> is there a name for those generic lcd connector breakout boards? its like a bunch of pads with 0.4mm, 0.6mm, 0.8mm etc spacing, faning out progressively into a 0.1" pin header
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2017-10-29T03:53:00 < kikes> I don't need a double sweater in my room anymore.. strange
2017-10-29T03:54:50 < kikes> just did some math and it costs 25eur/month to heat with mini split
2017-10-29T03:55:20 < kikes> double with direct electric
2017-10-29T03:55:34 < branjb> why would EXTI15_10 being getting triggered if I don't have any external interrupts enabled?
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2017-10-29T03:04:37 < kikes> timezone just changed
2017-10-29T03:07:46 < sync> unsuprising kikes
2017-10-29T03:07:56 < sync> as you get the benefit of the COP
2017-10-29T03:08:57 < kikes> what is really really nice is that indoor unit doesn't make noticeable sound
2017-10-29T03:09:18 < kikes> and there still is +20C all the time
2017-10-29T03:09:52 < kikes> direct electic heaters have like these 5C hysteresis
2017-10-29T03:10:18 < kikes> and heats a one corner
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2017-10-29T03:39:34 < Laurenceb_> https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/cluster-hat?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=22064645063&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm8PhuNmU1wIVRCrTCh3HfwW2EAQYAiABEgLmp_D_BwE
2017-10-29T03:39:36 < Laurenceb_> why
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2017-10-29T03:44:43 < Laurenceb_> https://www.pyimagesearch.com/2017/10/16/raspberry-pi-deep-learning-object-detection-with-opencv/
2017-10-29T03:44:49 < Laurenceb_> hmm I want a cat detector
2017-10-29T03:47:18 < Laurenceb_> oh yeah
2017-10-29T03:47:25 < Laurenceb_> cat is an existing model
2017-10-29T03:47:47 < Laurenceb_> Rpi Zero with camera -> fireworks
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2017-10-29T03:57:14 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQwfDxBMtXg
2017-10-29T03:57:20 < Laurenceb_> need time domain filtering
2017-10-29T03:58:24 < ohsix> why does it detect kites
2017-10-29T03:59:02 < ohsix> isnt' that just used as the input to a time domain model?
2017-10-29T03:59:23 < Laurenceb_> ohsix: yeah
2017-10-29T03:59:37 < Laurenceb_> but lower level data would be nice - pre thresholding
2017-10-29T03:59:39 < Laurenceb_> https://www.pyimagesearch.com/2016/06/20/detecting-cats-in-images-with-opencv/
2017-10-29T03:59:41 < Laurenceb_> oh yeah
2017-10-29T03:59:51 < stvn> yeah
2017-10-29T03:59:55 < Laurenceb_> I need 40mm grenade launcher and 2 servos
2017-10-29T04:00:01 < stvn> i need to detect cockatoos
2017-10-29T04:00:06 < Laurenceb_> cats keep shitting in my garden
2017-10-29T04:00:06 < ohsix> the dogs lose the ai wars because of the number of cat pictures on the internet
2017-10-29T04:00:13 < Laurenceb_> need to fuck them up properly
2017-10-29T04:00:35 < ohsix> scanline is working on a cat detector thing that shoots bolts
2017-10-29T04:01:09 < Laurenceb_> as usual isis is there first https://017qndpynh-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/multiple-tail-fins-with-40mm-comparison.jpg
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2017-10-29T05:49:09 < tpw_rules> will those fit up my butt
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2017-10-29T06:24:03 < upgrdman> tpw_rules, well they ARE tapered for a reason
2017-10-29T06:25:11 < tpw_rules> i want it to explode right after i orgasm
2017-10-29T06:26:45 < branjb> trying to merge different ST provided libraries together is a shitshow
2017-10-29T06:26:56 < tpw_rules> and the video played in slomo at my funeral
2017-10-29T06:29:58 < upgrdman> found dongs  http://time.com/5001532/white-lives-matter-rally-murfreesboro/
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2017-10-29T07:43:33 < branjb> stm32cube is gr8 when you accidently autogen new code on top of a project and wipe your code
2017-10-29T07:45:44 < Thorn> git checkout HEAD^
2017-10-29T07:45:58 < branjb> yeah i know i was being lazy and it's my fault
2017-10-29T07:46:39 < branjb> still a gr8 tool that can wipe out hours of work instantly
2017-10-29T07:47:05 < Thorn> tbh git is another such tool lol
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2017-10-29T07:52:27 < branjb> it's cool though now i can play lets see how much i can code back before i get too drunk to continue
2017-10-29T07:52:28 < branjb> a fine game
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2017-10-29T08:05:04 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone had an issue with openocd when using openocd -f board/st_nucleo_f103rb.cfg you get "Error: init mode failed (unable to connect to the target)"
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2017-10-29T08:10:31 < jpa-> that generally means your target is not powered, wires/jumpers not in place or it is in deep powersaving state
2017-10-29T08:10:39 < jpa-> holding reset button while connecting can help sometimes
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2017-10-29T08:31:04 < ColdKeyboard> It works prefectly trough stlink
2017-10-29T08:36:24 < PaulFertser> ColdKeyboard: then it means you need to use reset_config connect_assert_srst
2017-10-29T08:36:31 < jpa-> openocd doesn't do connect-under-reset by default, because you might want to debug the current state - so if it is the powersave issue, then you'll either have to change openocd configuration or hold down reset button
2017-10-29T08:36:51 < PaulFertser> jpa-++
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2017-10-29T09:22:50 < dongs> as expected
2017-10-29T09:22:56 < dongs> opensores tool defaults to the most useless fucking mode
2017-10-29T09:23:00 < dongs> way2go
2017-10-29T09:23:21 < PaulFertser> It defaults to the most non-intrusive mode
2017-10-29T09:23:33 < PaulFertser> Because it's a debugging tool, not "flasher".
2017-10-29T09:24:13 < dongs> debugging? with those features its more like "dead-bugging"
2017-10-29T09:24:37 < dongs> y/y/y
2017-10-29T09:25:58 < PaulFertser> I haven't woken up yet enough to come up with a funny answer, sorry.
2017-10-29T09:26:42 < dongs> no problem, i'm just trolling as usual
2017-10-29T09:26:57 < dongs> i'm sure one day openocd+eclipse combo will be as useful as say mdk-arm or even crosswors
2017-10-29T09:27:24 < dongs> I'm gonna guess probably moments after lunix becomes OS of choice on desktop
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2017-10-29T09:39:53 < PaulFertser> Why the hell is he downloading CCS?
2017-10-29T09:40:28 < dongs> who you talkin to
2017-10-29T09:40:42 < PaulFertser> superbia:
2017-10-29T09:42:10 < dongs> PaulFertser: cuz hes using it with TI garbage
2017-10-29T09:42:15 < dongs> so crap composter is the obvious choice
2017-10-29T09:42:17 < dongs> for crap TI parts
2017-10-29T09:42:59 < dongs> lol it sure does
2017-10-29T09:43:03 < dongs> at 3x the price of ST
2017-10-29T09:43:07 < PaulFertser> But icdi is supported by openocd and the tivac parts work just the same with the regular gcc-arm toolchain.
2017-10-29T09:43:08 < dongs> and 0.5x performance
2017-10-29T09:43:30 < dongs> i'm surprised tiva is still around
2017-10-29T09:43:37 < dongs> they EOL'd whatever was before that in less than a year
2017-10-29T09:43:44 < dongs> forgot waht it was called
2017-10-29T09:43:48 < dongs> stellaris?
2017-10-29T09:43:49 < dongs> or someshit
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2017-10-29T10:12:47 < zyp> dongs, isn't that just rebranding?
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2017-10-29T10:28:07 < dongs> ccs?
2017-10-29T10:28:17 < dongs> zyp, no they got rid of whatever shit silicon was there
2017-10-29T10:34:35 < zyp> isn't tiva like the third name on pretty much the same chips?
2017-10-29T10:34:51 < zyp> hmm
2017-10-29T10:35:03 < zyp> I think it was third, but I only remember tm4c and lm4f
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2017-10-29T12:28:21 < dongs> http://www.isoacoustics.com/iso-puck/
2017-10-29T12:28:39 < dongs> almost bought this from a jap site thinking it was a speaker (shit was listed in the speaker category
2017-10-29T12:39:54 < Steffanx> Hah
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2017-10-29T14:49:44 < Thorn> >By contrast, an expensive 24-bit audio A/D converter provides only 144 dB of dynamic range.
2017-10-29T14:49:51 < Thorn> why this figure
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2017-10-29T15:02:47 < Steffanx> Ratio between highest value and lowest value = about 144dB .. Thorn
2017-10-29T15:03:49 < Thorn> hm then wolframalpha lied to me
2017-10-29T15:13:44 < Fleck> doubt that
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2017-10-29T15:16:46 < Rob235> ok I took your advice to remove pop up notifications that auto disappear
2017-10-29T15:17:42 < jpa-> Thorn: log10(2**24)*20 = ~144.5 dB
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2017-10-29T15:52:11 < Laurenceb_> >MATLAB Deep Learning Platform - Learn How in 11 Lines of Code‎
2017-10-29T15:53:09 < BrainDamage> Thorn: https://ptpb.pw/j3zK.pdf
2017-10-29T15:56:48 < Laurenceb_> holy shit I got it
2017-10-29T15:56:52 < Laurenceb_> party poppers
2017-10-29T15:57:23 < Laurenceb_> Rpi zero + camera -> opencv -> two axis servo platform -> electronically fired party poppers
2017-10-29T15:57:31 < Laurenceb_> the perfect anti cat defence device
2017-10-29T15:57:36 < Laurenceb_> I'm going to build this
2017-10-29T16:10:50 < Steffanx> Better take something that doestn make a mess in your garden is can fire more than once.
2017-10-29T16:14:37 < Laurenceb_> sure, array of party poppers
2017-10-29T16:14:39 < Laurenceb_> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/birdemic-3-sea-eagle#/
2017-10-29T16:14:41 < Laurenceb_> fail
2017-10-29T16:19:15 < Steffanx> I read array of party poopers
2017-10-29T16:21:53 < BrainDamage> upgrade to gas operated bb gun
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2017-10-29T16:37:07 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaha4LAAX-8
2017-10-29T16:37:10 < Laurenceb_> crt at work
2017-10-29T16:37:15 < Laurenceb_> 2 popper / servo
2017-10-29T16:38:20 < Laurenceb_> pity Rpi has no low pwer modes
2017-10-29T16:46:28 < Laurenceb_> lul >300mA
2017-10-29T16:46:33 < Laurenceb_> Rpi failz again
2017-10-29T16:47:04 < Laurenceb_> I guess it could use pir to boot the pi, but the cat will have probably walked out of range by the time it boots
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2017-10-29T16:53:00 < Laurenceb_> ree I want to make a terminator now
2017-10-29T16:53:08 < Laurenceb_> almost within reach using opencv
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2017-10-29T16:53:51 < BrainDamage> you'll only have 13% chance per hour it'd misdetect you and  fire at you
2017-10-29T16:54:20 < Laurenceb_> yeah thats why I'd only use party poppers
2017-10-29T16:54:25 < Laurenceb_> enough to scare off cats
2017-10-29T16:54:52 < Laurenceb_> having to trail a power lead to it is lame tho
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2017-10-29T16:57:42 < Laurenceb_> Rpi boot takes >10s
2017-10-29T16:57:44 < Laurenceb_> epin fail
2017-10-29T16:58:11 < Laurenceb_> and no low power modes O_o
2017-10-29T17:01:05 < tpw_rules> superbia: i would totally buy that for my maglite
2017-10-29T17:01:42 < Laurenceb_> would be funnier if it was a modified fleshlight
2017-10-29T17:01:59 < tpw_rules> i saw a video like that once
2017-10-29T17:02:16 < BrainDamage> true, an EE is much morel likely to have a fleshlight than a flashlight
2017-10-29T17:02:24 < BrainDamage> to vent frustration
2017-10-29T17:05:26 < Laurenceb_> hmm I have an idea
2017-10-29T17:05:33 < Laurenceb_> belt of party poppers
2017-10-29T17:05:45 < Laurenceb_> one servo to fire them and one to "reload"
2017-10-29T17:15:25 < Steffanx> Did the usb-saga melt your brain Laurenceb_?
2017-10-29T17:15:53 < Laurenceb_> I just want to kill cats
2017-10-29T17:16:23 < Steffanx> Women love cats, that would mean your chances would go below zero %.
2017-10-29T17:17:57 < englishman> Laurenceb_: sounds like Edison is for you!
2017-10-29T17:18:13 < Steffanx> I know a guy with quite a few in stock.
2017-10-29T17:18:39 < BrainDamage> did you order them from arrow?
2017-10-29T17:18:51 < englishman> why do you ask
2017-10-29T17:19:04 < Steffanx> ##stm32 loves ARROW, englishman.
2017-10-29T17:19:18 < englishman> speaking of which, arrow was supposed to ship them the 24th
2017-10-29T17:19:27 < Steffanx> oh noes.
2017-10-29T17:20:30 < BrainDamage> well, it would explain few things, eg by the time they got there they become obsolete
2017-10-29T17:22:05 < Laurenceb_> oh wow edison can actually sleep
2017-10-29T17:22:15 < Laurenceb_> an amazing achievement /s
2017-10-29T17:23:00 < Steffanx> Even when in sleep mode it will over heat.
2017-10-29T17:25:18 < englishman> heh
2017-10-29T17:25:33 < englishman> actually this is causing problems now
2017-10-29T17:25:40 < englishman> when it overheats it firsts clocks down
2017-10-29T17:25:57 < englishman> which causes problems as we need that speed
2017-10-29T17:26:17 < englishman> both cores already 100% due to shitty jabbascrip
2017-10-29T17:36:30 < Laurenceb_> embedded javascript
2017-10-29T17:36:35 < Laurenceb_> wtf are you building?
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2017-10-29T17:38:17 < aandrew> embedded js?
2017-10-29T17:38:20 < aandrew> sounds hideous
2017-10-29T17:38:34 < aandrew> although I have been hankering to include some embedded lua interpreters in some projects
2017-10-29T17:38:38 < aandrew> i guess I hsould learn lua first
2017-10-29T17:38:54 < aandrew> arrow? you mean verical?
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2017-10-29T17:44:26 < englishman> Arrow, but some packages ordered thru arrow come from verical, no idea
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2017-10-29T17:51:54 < aandrew> verical seems the digikey/mouser side of arrow. arrow is more the production volume orders
2017-10-29T17:53:12 < englishman> dono, arrow has a somewhat shitty webinterface
2017-10-29T17:53:24 < englishman> tho I've never tried to order from verical
2017-10-29T17:53:47 < aandrew> I really didn't mind verical. I'll shop there without any qualms
2017-10-29T17:54:09 < aandrew> arrow though ... eeech. it's awful. like I said, they seem to be set up a lot like electrosonic (remember them?) -- where you have a purchasing department and a fax machine.
2017-10-29T17:54:36 < englishman> heh
2017-10-29T17:54:41 < englishman> well thanks for the brotip
2017-10-29T17:54:58 < aandrew> hah
2017-10-29T17:55:31 < aandrew> I have to put up with this goatee for antoher few days. I went to a halloween party as a pirate yesterday and it went over pretty well
2017-10-29T17:55:51 < aandrew> so now on tuesday I am going out trick or treating with my 5yo who is also a pirate, so I can't get rid of the goatee yet
2017-10-29T17:56:11 < englishman> I went as a software pirate
2017-10-29T17:57:07 < branjb> lo
2017-10-29T17:57:27 < aandrew> hah
2017-10-29T17:57:41 < branjb> was harambe last year
2017-10-29T18:03:23 < aandrew> heh
2017-10-29T18:03:43 < aandrew> someone at the party was the chick from pulp fiction. bloody nose/chest with needle sticking out
2017-10-29T18:04:21 < Laurenceb_> this all sounds very triggering
2017-10-29T18:05:59 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_ went as harry?
2017-10-29T18:06:02 < Steffanx> potter.
2017-10-29T18:08:04 < Laurenceb_> yup I like the zero effort approach
2017-10-29T18:09:35  * PaulFertser wonders if dongs went with the obvious choice for his costume https://i.pinimg.com/236x/5a/43/4b/5a434b2e9f222e4ea1169cd0b3fe6c4c--medium.jpg
2017-10-29T18:10:04 < Steffanx> His wife wouldnt let him.
2017-10-29T18:12:00 < Laurenceb_> true story: my friend got arrested for wearing something like that
2017-10-29T18:12:06 < branjb> http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1509288540178.jpg
2017-10-29T18:12:53 < aandrew> Steffanx: either that or his wife kept trying to fall on to him, hoping
2017-10-29T18:13:25 < englishman> lollll warren 4 prez seriously
2017-10-29T18:13:40 < branjb> i'm already getting comfy for 2020
2017-10-29T18:14:23 < branjb> Presidential Election has too long between seasons
2017-10-29T18:14:31 < branjb> writers prob ran out of material after last season
2017-10-29T18:14:46 < aandrew> you gotta be kidding
2017-10-29T18:14:54 < aandrew> they'll run out of ink with that shitstain in the white house
2017-10-29T18:15:32 < Laurenceb_> wew those choices
2017-10-29T18:15:54 < branjb> i'm surprised hillary isn't back on there
2017-10-29T18:16:06 < Laurenceb_> I for one welcome our Trump overlord
2017-10-29T18:17:24 < Laurenceb_> >when ur candidates are so shit even Trump beats them
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2017-10-29T18:21:18 < aandrew> yeah, that was an incredible election
2017-10-29T18:21:31 < aandrew> when trump threw his hat in the ring I thought he was the clown to draw attention away from the real candidate
2017-10-29T18:21:58 < branjb> 2016 was the most entertaining year of my life
2017-10-29T18:23:04 < englishman> it was the year you found ##stm32
2017-10-29T18:23:20 < englishman> aandrew i felt the same way about oleary
2017-10-29T18:23:23 < Laurenceb_> annoyingly I wasn't born in usa
2017-10-29T18:23:34 < Laurenceb_> or I would run for President for the lulz
2017-10-29T18:27:36 < aandrew> englishman: ah yes, o'leary
2017-10-29T18:27:39 < aandrew> that was ridiculous
2017-10-29T18:27:46 < aandrew> I like him, but he's no politician
2017-10-29T18:27:51 < aandrew> he was just in it for the popularity
2017-10-29T18:28:15 < PaulFertser> Are you funny enough? Jon Gnarr-level?
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2017-10-29T18:51:15 < upgrdman> i gotta say, it must really hurt to be hillary. she lost to a black guy, and then to a retarded orange guy. "we accept ANYTHING other than you"
2017-10-29T18:52:31 < branjb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5IE8vODb6I
2017-10-29T18:52:37 < aandrew> I think Hillary's issue is that she's just fundamentally unlikable. it has nothing to do with her gender, she just comes off as unbelievably smarmy
2017-10-29T18:52:47 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-29T18:53:31 < aandrew> Bill was/is charasmatic as fuck, but she's absolutely not
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2017-10-29T18:53:39 < aandrew> lord she tries but it's all so... manufactured
2017-10-29T18:53:55 < aandrew> in fact if she played a campaign as a republican I think she'd do amazingly well
2017-10-29T18:54:14 < aandrew> all of trump's bluster and fuck'em ... she's like that but she tries to mask it all as a dem
2017-10-29T18:54:23 < branjb> i worked in government for 8 years, she embodies everything that is bureaucratic and annoying about working in gov't
2017-10-29T19:00:32 < upgrdman> i've been doing it wrong for YEARS   https://i.redd.it/p02rnz3qvnuz.jpg
2017-10-29T19:03:04 < branjb> upgrdman still trying to get my robot balancing
2017-10-29T19:03:37 < branjb> when you said fast the other day, did you mean fast like high rpm, or fast as in responsive?
2017-10-29T19:04:20 < sync> kinda the same
2017-10-29T19:04:24 < sync> do you have a cascaded pid?
2017-10-29T19:04:24 < upgrdman> both
2017-10-29T19:04:50 < upgrdman> but responsive is prolly the most important part. latency will rape you.
2017-10-29T19:05:03 < branjb> sync that's the plan, but right now I am just trying to tune it to track to a target angle.. no point in having a PID calculate a new target angle if I can never track to it right?
2017-10-29T19:05:12 < sync> wat
2017-10-29T19:05:20 < sync> you need to control wheel torque
2017-10-29T19:05:41 < sync> and have something plan how much torque you need to keep the CG within your stability region
2017-10-29T19:05:50 < branjb> float targetAngle = speedPID(TargetMotorSpeed1, CurrentSpeed/1000, lastErrorSpeed, iTerm_Speed, deltat) * .45;
2017-10-29T19:06:03 < branjb> CurrentSpeed = anglePID(targetAngle, roll, lastErrorAngle, iTerm_Angle, deltat);
2017-10-29T19:06:08 < branjb> that's how I have it set up
2017-10-29T19:06:25 < sync> write down the equation of your system
2017-10-29T19:07:03 < aandrew> upgrdman: hahaha
2017-10-29T19:08:12 < barometz> I'm a little concerned by a function anglePID providing you with a speed
2017-10-29T19:08:24 < barometz> and also the other one
2017-10-29T19:08:31 < sync> branjb: the problem is you do not have a pendulum that is driven with a position/speed at one end
2017-10-29T19:08:42 < sync> the motors will induce a torque on their shaft
2017-10-29T19:08:53 < sync> and you need to deal with that
2017-10-29T19:08:55 < branjb> hmm
2017-10-29T19:09:42 < branjb> barometz: anglePID and speedPID are just names, I have different limits for the I term on each of them
2017-10-29T19:12:28 < branjb> sync do you have any background on the torque?  what am I taking into account there?
2017-10-29T19:14:17 < sync> well, where is your motor mounted?
2017-10-29T19:14:43 < sync> it outputs a force against the floor and where else is it mounted?
2017-10-29T19:14:51 < sync> all forces and torques have to be 0
2017-10-29T19:14:55 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/XELxB
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2017-10-29T19:16:04 < branjb> this is the block diagram for my system: https://imgur.com/a/c4Kp0
2017-10-29T19:17:20 < sync> write out the diff-eq of your pendulum and see if you can stabilize it using that
2017-10-29T19:17:41 < branjb> ie, state space model?
2017-10-29T19:19:09 < branjb> i'm actually not entirely sure if it's mechanically able to balance right now, it might be too tall/not have enough weight at the top
2017-10-29T19:19:58 < sync> a single pendulum always exhibits at least marginal stability
2017-10-29T19:20:36 < sync> yes, state space would be ok, but you can just transfer function would be ok
2017-10-29T19:20:52 < sync> shit, my fingers are too slow today
2017-10-29T19:21:07 < sync> state space is ok, but regular transfer function will also be ok
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2017-10-29T19:26:02 < DelvingDeeper_> Does this mean that DMA2 can do two transfers at once? Pretty confused at this, cause as far as I know it can't?https://imgur.com/a/vvUdY
2017-10-29T19:26:13 < DelvingDeeper_> *by
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2017-10-29T19:31:18 < DelvingDeeper_> Well as long as both dont go through he bus?
2017-10-29T19:32:03 < upgrdman> lol https://i.imgur.com/0m0E0gd.gifv
2017-10-29T19:39:57 < englishman> DelvingDeeper_: pretty sure that means that in certain cases, you'll find there won't be bus contention between dma1/dma2/ and or cpu
2017-10-29T19:40:22 < englishman> and in those certain cases, DMA transfers won't have to wait for the bus
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2017-10-29T19:42:37 < DelvingDeeper_> englishman: Ok great, I think this was the "nail in the coffin for my confusion" : https://imgur.com/a/ESfva
2017-10-29T19:55:51 < Laurenceb_> branjb: I've always found nested PID controllers to be unresponsive disasters
2017-10-29T19:55:57 < Laurenceb_> but maybe I've been failing
2017-10-29T19:56:08 < Laurenceb_> optimal control isnt too hard in simple cases tho
2017-10-29T19:56:12 < Laurenceb_> like a balancing bot
2017-10-29T19:56:36 < sync> Laurenceb_: then you have been failing
2017-10-29T19:56:51 < sync> nested pid works super well in our servo controller
2017-10-29T19:57:30 < Steffanx> Did you guess the parameters or ... ?
2017-10-29T19:59:28 < sync> yes
2017-10-29T19:59:35 < sync> but it turns out most servos are the same
2017-10-29T19:59:41 < sync> electrically and magnetically
2017-10-29T19:59:43 < sync> for whatever reason
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2017-10-29T20:38:45 < Laurenceb_>  Fellow Asatruans. We will drive the Christian invaders out of our lands and once again return to the glory days in which we worshipped trees and fucked each others butts while praying that the All-Faggot Odin would let us live to see 25.
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2017-10-29T20:39:11 < englishman> woooo new ugfx
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2017-10-29T20:39:47 < upgrdman> whats so woooo-worthy?
2017-10-29T20:40:36 < Laurenceb_> >audio mixer
2017-10-29T20:40:38 < Laurenceb_> whyy
2017-10-29T20:40:47 < Laurenceb_> when is systemd integration coming?
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2017-10-29T20:59:30 < Steffanx> You actively follow ugfx development mr englishman?
2017-10-29T20:59:59 < jpa-> englishman uses all the ##stm32 libraries
2017-10-29T21:00:27 < englishman> truth
2017-10-29T21:00:35 < englishman> not my fault they are amazing
2017-10-29T21:00:46 < Steffanx> https://github.com/Laurenceb all of it?
2017-10-29T21:02:11 < jpa-> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Laurenceb/DopplerFitting/master/Ground_Tracking/pll_tracker_s.m   it's so beautiful how could you not be using it?
2017-10-29T21:02:58 < englishman> matlab isnt a language
2017-10-29T21:03:09 < englishman> fite me irl
2017-10-29T21:03:28 < Steffanx> je ne parle pas français
2017-10-29T21:03:44 < englishman> 🦃
2017-10-29T21:04:35 < Laurenceb_> It's about the planet. Think of the planet. Just think of the water wasted washing your hands, there is no reason to do this.
2017-10-29T21:06:48 < PaulFertser> Staged
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2017-10-29T21:08:15 < Steffanx> like everything in that series. ( the reason why i hardly ever watched it )
2017-10-29T21:09:02 < englishman> agree
2017-10-29T21:09:04 < englishman> horrible
2017-10-29T21:09:22 < englishman> "automotive-themed entertainment"
2017-10-29T21:11:03 < PaulFertser> Weren't those dickheads that were "building choppers" worse?
2017-10-29T21:19:17 < Laurenceb_> still less lame than mythbusters
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2017-10-29T21:30:24 < kikes> Do I want to terminate with A or B termination my basic cat5e line to another room?
2017-10-29T21:30:34 < kikes> from router to raspi
2017-10-29T21:31:35 < Laurenceb_> Rpi O_o
2017-10-29T21:31:39 < Laurenceb_> whyyyy
2017-10-29T21:33:22 < Steffanx> I have 2 running atm
2017-10-29T21:34:09 < kikes> handy shit
2017-10-29T21:34:17 < kikes> anyways standard patch cord
2017-10-29T21:34:29 < kikes> babby's first
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2017-10-29T21:35:31 < kikes> suprising how crappy cat5e cable is
2017-10-29T21:35:48 < kikes> everything is loose
2017-10-29T21:36:21 < kikes> insulation in wires is the cheapest
2017-10-29T21:37:35 < kikes> sure
2017-10-29T21:37:46 < kikes> and solid conductors for better BW
2017-10-29T21:38:05 < kikes> I have one and another is being shipped
2017-10-29T21:38:15 < kikes> this one is for +10meters
2017-10-29T21:40:11 < kikes> what is difference between A and B terminating?
2017-10-29T21:42:10 < jpa-> the order of wires
2017-10-29T21:42:25 < jpa-> just put the same order on both ends and be happy
2017-10-29T21:42:28 < kikes> functional difference?
2017-10-29T21:42:37 < kikes> none?
2017-10-29T21:43:03 < jpa-> you need cross cable (A->B) if you connect directly between two computers made more than 10 years ago
2017-10-29T21:43:37 < kikes> yes
2017-10-29T21:43:45 < PaulFertser> MDI-X ftw
2017-10-29T21:44:12 < jpa-> but A->A and B->B work the same, because electricity doesn't know the color of the wires it goes in
2017-10-29T21:44:28 < PaulFertser> auto
2017-10-29T21:44:30 < kikes> our embedded microchips have automatic cross detection?
2017-10-29T21:44:51 < PaulFertser> I do not think any stm32s have integrated phys.
2017-10-29T21:44:54 < kikes> jpa-, is there any de facto?
2017-10-29T21:45:09 < kikes> PaulFertser, that is why I said *microchips*
2017-10-29T21:45:48 < jpa-> many people use B, but no real reason for that
2017-10-29T21:46:01 < kikes> apparently for legacy reasons
2017-10-29T21:46:29 < kikes> "The standard also allows the T568B pinout, as an alternative "if necessary to accommodate certain 8-pin cabling systems". This pinout matches the older AT&T 258A (Systimax) pinout. In the 1990s, when the original TIA/EIA-568 was published, 258A had the most widely installed UTP cabling infrastructure. Many organizations still use T568B out of inertia."
2017-10-29T21:46:34 < zyp> kikes, pretty much every modern phy has auto MDI-X, if that's what you're asking
2017-10-29T21:46:55 < kikes> reason: AT&T
2017-10-29T21:46:58 < zyp> at least I've never used one without
2017-10-29T21:47:34 < kikes> "ANSI/TIA-568 recommends the T568A pinout for horizontal cables. This pinout's advantage is that it is compatible with the 1-pair and 2-pair Universal Service Order Codes (USOC) pinouts. The U.S. Government requires it in federal contracts."
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2017-10-29T21:49:58 < jpa-> what if a hurricane comes by and topples your house, will you have to redo all the wiring?
2017-10-29T21:58:19 < englishman> all those finnish hurricanes
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2017-10-29T22:08:55 < kikes> strong ones'!
2017-10-29T22:12:32 < Laurenceb_> maybe I should be honest to Jaguar guys
2017-10-29T22:12:49 < Laurenceb_> sticking my sensors on their shit is beyond stupid
2017-10-29T22:12:56 < Laurenceb_> they just need off the shelf IEPE shit
2017-10-29T22:13:43 < Laurenceb_> http://www.microstrain.com/wireless/iepe-link
2017-10-29T22:13:47 < Laurenceb_> STRAINLORD
2017-10-29T22:14:40 < Laurenceb_> >1 channel
2017-10-29T22:14:42 < Laurenceb_> epin fail
2017-10-29T22:16:02 < kikes> maybe it's a vanity project
2017-10-29T22:16:23 < Laurenceb_> https://www.mccdaq.com/Products/Sound-Vibration-DAQ/DT9857E
2017-10-29T22:16:26 < Laurenceb_>  *triggered*
2017-10-29T22:17:03 < sync> Lel the specs sound like they put an audio codec in there
2017-10-29T22:18:17 < Laurenceb_> I guess there is http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-signal/usb-boosta/usb-booster/dp/CS16464?CMP=KNC-GUK-CPC-GEN-SHOPPING-PRO%20SIGNAL-CS16464&gross_price=true&mckv=smgVUU0C5_dc|pcrid|72935592137|kword||match||plid||pid|CS16464|&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiLS8ntOW1wIVZrftCh38PgOeEAQYASABEgIeSvD_BwE
2017-10-29T22:18:58 < Laurenceb_> so they could just run usb to the hardware on their test track
2017-10-29T22:19:05 < Laurenceb_> wew this thing http://www.pacificinstruments.com/images/Series7000.png
2017-10-29T22:19:28 < Laurenceb_> looks nuke proof
2017-10-29T22:20:21 < Laurenceb_> >    IEPE (Coming Soon)
2017-10-29T22:20:25 < Laurenceb_> epin fail
2017-10-29T22:25:22 < kikes> maybe jag want to make their own cool shit themself because cool
2017-10-29T22:29:20 < Laurenceb_> atm they run tons of coax cable to sensors
2017-10-29T22:35:14 < Laurenceb_> Thanks to 4chan, the attitudes once confined to basements have now taken over the White House.
2017-10-29T22:42:23 < Laurenceb_> Forget “don’t feed the trolls.” What I’m here to tell you is that posting back against trolls is fun — albeit a peculiar, geeky, pedantic kind of fun. It’s time consuming, requires thick skin and the tenacity of a bulldog, and unless you’re getting paid to do it, is probably will cost you. But if you have a lot of excess time and emotion just laying about, the payoff can be huge. I'm talking about relentl
2017-10-29T22:42:23 < Laurenceb_> ess hounding with dozens of links to peer-reviewed studies, or even getting your own original research published in a journal to refute the trolls, surely the best way to beat them.
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2017-10-29T22:52:18 < karlp> stm8 pros, is there no way of idenfitying whether you're on an 8s or an 8l at runtime? there's no cpu id registers at all? swim doesn't seem to mention any
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2017-10-29T22:59:45 < ohsix> buns
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2017-10-29T23:25:55 < blacktronics> o/
2017-10-29T23:36:29 < fenugrec> karlp is there a difference in RAM size / memory mapping ?
2017-10-29T23:37:31 < fenugrec> depending on if it does a hardfault on invalid mem access, a writeback test might work, i.e. "volatile testloc = 0x55; if testloc != 0x55 {...} "
2017-10-29T23:39:18 < fenugrec> did something like that for some SuperH mcus that also lacked an ID reg P)
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2017-10-29T23:44:03 < karlp> fenugrec: might, but looking for part id to decide where regs are mapped at, not sdize of flash/ram unfortunately
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2017-10-29T23:50:29 < englishman> karlp: iirc none of them have chip ids no...
2017-10-29T23:52:05 < englishman> just the unique id
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2017-10-30T00:07:22 < fenugrec> karlp well if the ramsize can't differentiate them, why not try to exploit the different reg mapping ?
2017-10-30T00:09:44 < fenugrec> i.e. if one reg is RO/unimplemented on one family, and RW on the other
2017-10-30T00:36:56 < kikes> movie recmds?
2017-10-30T00:43:18 < kikes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsbiO8EAsGw epaper demo
2017-10-30T00:43:27 < kikes> refresh rate hacks
2017-10-30T00:44:54 < tpw_rules> fuck i need that scope
2017-10-30T00:45:13 < kikes> fuck I want that scope but don't need it
2017-10-30T00:45:25 < tpw_rules> i'm not familiar with that concept
2017-10-30T00:45:40 < tpw_rules> i like how the laptop is prolly less powerful tho
2017-10-30T00:45:59 < kikes> his laptop?
2017-10-30T00:46:11 < tpw_rules> yea
2017-10-30T00:46:13 < kikes> laptop power is inrelevant
2017-10-30T00:46:29 < kikes> laptop is shit you can throw around
2017-10-30T00:46:34 < englishman> kikes: Rubber (2010)
2017-10-30T00:46:39 < tpw_rules> but i mean like he could probably run a vm on the scope too
2017-10-30T00:48:11 < kikes> actually no englishman
2017-10-30T00:49:46 < Cracki> the scope has dedicated hardware for waveform drawing and stuff
2017-10-30T00:49:58 < Cracki> the cpu itself probably doesn't have to do too much
2017-10-30T00:50:16 < blacktronics> can it run crysis tho?
2017-10-30T00:50:20 < kikes> just frontend
2017-10-30T00:50:49 < kikes> blacktronics, does integrated graphics few years back run crysis?
2017-10-30T00:51:09 < blacktronics> i have no idea i wasn't expecting any response besides maybe getting kicked
2017-10-30T00:51:28 < Cracki> lol
2017-10-30T00:51:44 < Cracki> to operate such scopes, you want to plug in a mouse and maybe keyboard
2017-10-30T00:51:52 < Cracki> they all have touch these days
2017-10-30T00:53:55 < Cracki> niiice, that epaper video
2017-10-30T00:54:22 < blacktronics> yeah i saw it earlier
2017-10-30T00:54:40 < blacktronics> these panels are much more expensive than i had expected
2017-10-30T00:55:09 < kikes> good panels you can actually easily work with - sure
2017-10-30T00:55:25 < kikes> somebody is paying - price goes up
2017-10-30T01:01:12 < englishman> welcome blacktronics
2017-10-30T01:01:14 < sync> Cracki: touch is fine for a scope tho
2017-10-30T01:01:23 < Cracki> aye
2017-10-30T01:02:11 < blacktronics> englishman: what up
2017-10-30T01:02:46 < englishman> besides trolling, what brings you to this chat
2017-10-30T01:03:56 < blacktronics> so i can ask for help when i finally give up
2017-10-30T01:05:11 < englishman> sometimes we talk about stm32 in here
2017-10-30T01:05:24 < blacktronics> basically completely new to STM32 magic so i wouldn't be able to tell the difference
2017-10-30T01:05:43 < englishman> it's a good platform
2017-10-30T01:05:50 < blacktronics> took me about a weekend and a bottle of whisky last time i tried until i gave up
2017-10-30T01:06:17 < englishman> I'm guessing by the alcoholism you're a lunix desktop user?
2017-10-30T01:06:52 < blacktronics> Yes, I love lunix
2017-10-30T01:07:16 < englishman> well, it can explain most of your difficulties in life
2017-10-30T01:07:32 < blacktronics> Couldn't get lunix to run on my Amiga 500 though, must be broken
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2017-10-30T01:14:03 < karlp> fenugrec: I don't want to do this, just reviewing some code that looks gross.
2017-10-30T01:15:08 < Laurenceb_> moar gross than matlab?
2017-10-30T01:15:08 < blacktronics> But yeah, so far the platform has been such a colossal pain to get into for me, still have no idea how to even use STLink with printf just to look at the thing do stuff. printf just does nothing, probably some setup i am missing but i have no idea where to even start
2017-10-30T01:15:25 < Laurenceb_> rfprintf ftw
2017-10-30T01:15:37 < karlp> Laurenceb_: no, not really, just didn't see why it was going to need explicit flags for "this is 8l, not 8s" the way it was done.
2017-10-30T01:16:13 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32-Logger/blob/master/Util/rprintf.c
2017-10-30T01:16:40 < englishman> printf wat
2017-10-30T01:16:46 < englishman> why
2017-10-30T01:16:53 < englishman> oh right lunix
2017-10-30T01:17:06 < englishman> OK continue to smash your dick with a hammer
2017-10-30T01:17:47 < blacktronics> don't even have a dick anymore, jokes on your
2017-10-30T01:25:05 < Laurenceb_> https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/tmz.jpg
2017-10-30T01:25:30 < aandrew> damn, now i want oktoberfest sausage with pickled peppers, onions and sauerkraut
2017-10-30T01:25:30 < Laurenceb_> https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/waiting-to-cut.jpg
2017-10-30T01:25:59 < karlp> blacktronics: just implement _write https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3-examples/blob/master/examples/stm32/f4/stm32f4-discovery/adc-dac-printf/adc-dac-printf.c#L71-L94
2017-10-30T01:25:59 < Laurenceb_> blacktronics located
2017-10-30T01:26:05 < Laurenceb_> blacktronics: nice macbook
2017-10-30T01:26:09 < blacktronics> thanks
2017-10-30T01:26:16 < blacktronics> it's running Lunix
2017-10-30T01:26:55 < aandrew> lol
2017-10-30T01:33:41 < englishman> are there any home security cams rated to -40
2017-10-30T01:37:19 < sync> probably not, but why not heat them from the inside?
2017-10-30T01:38:01 < karlp> or you know, stop living in canada.
2017-10-30T01:38:08 < englishman> id expect embedded lunix to do that job all on its own
2017-10-30T01:38:19 < englishman> where else would i go
2017-10-30T01:38:21 < englishman> germany?
2017-10-30T01:38:33 < englishman> and lose all those beers with fruit in them?
2017-10-30T01:38:34 < englishman> no thx
2017-10-30T01:39:41 < englishman> not like i need security cameras to protect my shit like they do in arizona
2017-10-30T01:39:50 < englishman> they are mostly cat-detectors
2017-10-30T01:45:14 < sync> you can have beer with fruit in them here
2017-10-30T01:50:39 < aandrew> englishman: the cameras I have around my house are not super chill rated
2017-10-30T01:50:50 < upgrdman> PaulFertser, i was told that this is a typical day in russia. can you confirm?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0Dys_VFoiM
2017-10-30T01:52:17 < upgrdman> R2COM, ^ you too
2017-10-30T01:53:17 < englishman> aandrew: same, but only 2/3 have working eeproms below -10
2017-10-30T01:53:37 < sync> just calculate buttcoins on them
2017-10-30T01:57:14 < aandrew> englishman: we haven't had a truly bone-chilling winter in the last couple of years so I have no real world data
2017-10-30T01:57:32 < aandrew> but the cameras do have a considerable amount of self-heating
2017-10-30T02:06:00 < branjb> switching direction with steppers in the middle of a move, decelerate then switch, or just immediately switch?
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2017-10-30T02:22:28 < aandrew> branjb: for what purpose
2017-10-30T02:34:27 < Ultrasauce> depends on whether you like big vibrations and missed steps
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2017-10-30T02:42:24 < stvn> let's get an abortion
2017-10-30T02:46:54 < englishman> stvn: 😺
2017-10-30T02:48:42 < stvn> gooday sport
2017-10-30T02:48:44 < stvn> o/
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2017-10-30T03:02:21 < stvn> niggg
2017-10-30T03:05:48 < dongs> .ld files sounds like lunix
2017-10-30T03:09:59 < stvn> exactly
2017-10-30T03:10:12 < dongs> filth
2017-10-30T03:15:07 < Laurenceb_> >st hal
2017-10-30T03:15:13 < Laurenceb_> ep 1 in fail
2017-10-30T03:15:37 < stvn> bin it
2017-10-30T03:15:48 < dongs> blog it
2017-10-30T03:16:07 < Laurenceb_> wut is AXIM?
2017-10-30T03:16:15 < dongs> some F7 trash
2017-10-30T03:16:18 < dongs> cache or somethign
2017-10-30T03:16:27 < Laurenceb_> Axim Architectural Door Hardware:Maximise without Compromise
2017-10-30T03:16:45 < dongs> sodomy through synergy
2017-10-30T03:17:02 < Laurenceb_> I fully expect that to be a business slogan soon
2017-10-30T03:17:43 < Cracki> anything to do with AXI busses?
2017-10-30T03:17:46 < tpw_rules> shouldn't it be the opposite way
2017-10-30T03:17:54 < dongs> urrite
2017-10-30T03:17:58 < Cracki> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/0e/53/06/68/ef/2f/4a/cd/DM00169764.pdf/files/DM00169764.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00169764.pdf
2017-10-30T03:18:04 < dongs> GNAA leverages core skillsets and world-class team synergy through sodomy.
2017-10-30T03:18:10 < Laurenceb_> oh yeaaaahhh
2017-10-30T03:18:18 < dongs> r u linking to HAL docs
2017-10-30T03:18:26 < Laurenceb_> update Gary Niger page now
2017-10-30T03:18:28 < Cracki> I have no idea what I'm linking to
2017-10-30T03:18:40 < Laurenceb_> are u Cracki chan?
2017-10-30T03:18:44 < Cracki> wat
2017-10-30T03:18:54 < Laurenceb_> the famous camwhore
2017-10-30T03:18:58 < Cracki> if anything I'm a -kun and a seme
2017-10-30T03:19:01 < stvn> blogging the arrival of digikey package
2017-10-30T03:19:10 < dongs> periscope it
2017-10-30T03:19:24 < Laurenceb_> on Saturday I met a hooker behind some bins
2017-10-30T03:19:30 < Laurenceb_> >blog tiem
2017-10-30T03:19:40 < Cracki> what bins?
2017-10-30T03:19:45 < Laurenceb_> I was going for a piss
2017-10-30T03:19:55 < Laurenceb_> >hooker approaches me
2017-10-30T03:20:03 < Cracki> oooh golden showers, that could lead to presidency :>
2017-10-30T03:20:06 < Laurenceb_> >I realise she looked familiar
2017-10-30T03:20:12 < Laurenceb_> >she recognised me
2017-10-30T03:20:15 < Cracki> treefiddy
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2017-10-30T03:20:16 < dongs> Laurenceb_'s long lost sister
2017-10-30T03:20:22 < Laurenceb_> >she lives on my street
2017-10-30T03:20:22 < Cracki> wincest!
2017-10-30T03:20:26 < Laurenceb_> epin fail
2017-10-30T03:20:35 < Cracki> next door girl <3
2017-10-30T03:20:45 < dongs> shoulda used moment of confusion as excuse for a quick raep
2017-10-30T03:20:57 < Laurenceb_> she was liek *I'm just er going for a walk*
2017-10-30T03:21:22 < Laurenceb_>  5% meme confirmed
2017-10-30T03:22:24 < Laurenceb_> >5% of UK grrrls are "self employed in the sex industry"
2017-10-30T03:22:58 < Laurenceb_> sounds about right 2 me
2017-10-30T03:23:38 < Cracki> a little money on the side
2017-10-30T03:24:22 < Cracki> if you consider that <18 and >40 has a hard time making this kinda money, the 5% condense down to a narrow age range
2017-10-30T03:24:32 < Cracki> so it's more like half of them
2017-10-30T03:24:54 < Cracki> just playing with numbers here
2017-10-30T03:27:38 < Laurenceb_> u just need to sit on a train/bus and see what apps ppl are on
2017-10-30T03:30:03 < Laurenceb_> oh
2017-10-30T03:30:04 < Laurenceb_> e AXIM AMBA4
2017-10-30T03:30:19 < Laurenceb_> an AMBA bus
2017-10-30T03:30:39 < Laurenceb_> I worked on a project where we ran AMBA bus across a pcb
2017-10-30T03:30:46 < Laurenceb_> resulting in epin fail
2017-10-30T03:31:04 < dongs> now that castar is dead whats your next trolling target, Laurence/b/
2017-10-30T03:32:39 < Laurenceb_> emdrive, eestor, local hookers, Jaguar accelerometer projects
2017-10-30T03:32:45 < Laurenceb_> so many choices
2017-10-30T03:34:12 < Laurenceb_> I have a meeting with Jaguar guy tomorrow
2017-10-30T03:34:25 < Laurenceb_>  "why don't you just liek... use IEPE kit?"
2017-10-30T03:34:44 < Laurenceb_> nah I was told to do it
2017-10-30T03:35:22 < sync> wtf
2017-10-30T03:35:49 < Laurenceb_> wew now it comes
2017-10-30T03:35:51 < Laurenceb_> now it comes
2017-10-30T03:36:01 < Laurenceb_> the /pol/ copypasta trolling
2017-10-30T03:36:09 < dongs> R2COM: who teh fuck uses dicker scripts outside of lunix fags
2017-10-30T03:36:57 < aandrew> dongs uses keil. his code transcends linker scripts
2017-10-30T03:37:33 < dongs> R2COM: correct, keil doesn't need linker scripts, its more advanced than that
2017-10-30T03:39:02 < Laurenceb_> http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1208683-we-wuz-kings
2017-10-30T03:39:08 < dongs> unfunny
2017-10-30T03:39:12 < aandrew> nobody in their right mind does
2017-10-30T03:39:23 < aandrew> and keil's such a shitty IDE on top of it all
2017-10-30T03:41:10 < Laurenceb_> muh "IDE" https://i.imgur.com/StfYfca.png
2017-10-30T03:42:35 < dongs> all i see is
2017-10-30T03:42:36 < dongs> "failed"
2017-10-30T03:42:41 < dongs> scrolling across shitty xterms
2017-10-30T03:42:52 < dongs> nice summary for pretty much everything Laurence/b/ does
2017-10-30T03:43:54 < dongs> so my fucking jap bank requires me using IE and client-side certs
2017-10-30T03:44:12 < dongs> about 1/10 chance when I open IE and try to login, it will crash lsass.exe and make it eat 10meg/second and one full core of CPU
2017-10-30T03:44:28 < dongs> so now i have to fucking reboot because fucking japs
2017-10-30T03:44:49 < stvn> mint linux
2017-10-30T03:44:55 < stvn> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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2017-10-30T03:46:00 < sync> Laurenceb_: wut, 2560x1024, it is 2017
2017-10-30T03:46:02 < sync> pls
2017-10-30T03:47:34 < Laurenceb_> the current yeah
2017-10-30T03:47:44 < Laurenceb_> its cool res
2017-10-30T03:49:26 < Laurenceb_> muh widescreen
2017-10-30T03:49:28 < blacktronics> why am i so dumb
2017-10-30T03:49:34 < Laurenceb_> cuz ur american?
2017-10-30T03:49:41 < blacktronics> i'm german
2017-10-30T03:50:08 < Laurenceb_> oh
2017-10-30T03:50:28 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD4EjjR3hMo
2017-10-30T03:50:30 < Cracki> 1280x1024 screens, wtf
2017-10-30T03:51:01 < Laurenceb_> perfect for coding
2017-10-30T03:52:39 < Cracki> oh hell, torrent rss feeds work again I'm so happy
2017-10-30T03:53:33 < Laurenceb_> I've seen post counts you people wouldn't believe. (1) Bomber Harris shitposts on fire off the shoulder of /pol/. I saw 100+ posts glitter in the dark near the /britfeel/ nightshift gates. All these moments will be lost in time… like Cracki posts… in the /gamergate/ exodus. Time… to filter.
2017-10-30T03:53:56 < Cracki> wat
2017-10-30T03:54:44 < blacktronics> I can't get libopencm3 to build
2017-10-30T03:54:48 < blacktronics> is it because i am using Lunix?
2017-10-30T03:54:54 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/klpqk6P
2017-10-30T03:54:58 < Laurenceb_> my fucking sides
2017-10-30T03:55:06 < Laurenceb_> I'm in stitches here
2017-10-30T03:55:18 < Laurenceb_> >thunderf00t
2017-10-30T03:55:20 < blacktronics> hahaha lmao
2017-10-30T03:55:27 < blacktronics> quality meme that is
2017-10-30T03:56:03 < Laurenceb_> chans irl isnt actually as bad as I expected
2017-10-30T03:56:11 < Laurenceb_> lower neckbeard quotient
2017-10-30T03:58:25 < blacktronics> oh okay
2017-10-30T03:59:07 < Laurenceb_> guys, guys, Sargon JUST REHASHED THE SAME VIDEO FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME
2017-10-30T03:59:14 < blacktronics> I am actually on win 10 tho
2017-10-30T03:59:15 < Laurenceb_> HOLY SHIT LADS GET IN HERE
2017-10-30T03:59:20 < blacktronics> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/0PrHGqpe/
2017-10-30T03:59:26 < blacktronics> mingw just does that
2017-10-30T04:00:40 < blacktronics> https://gyazo.com/592af6eabdae3ba425d04b15f823b1b0
2017-10-30T04:01:28 < blacktronics> idk some guide told me to for building libopencm3
2017-10-30T04:01:48 < blacktronics> i have no idea what i am actually doing
2017-10-30T04:02:28 < blacktronics> i can confirm that
2017-10-30T04:02:45 < blacktronics> none taken
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2017-10-30T04:12:22 < Laurenceb_> so I herd u were talking shit about me on the internets
2017-10-30T04:12:24 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/ykZcXck
2017-10-30T04:16:04 < blacktronics> hahaha oh my god
2017-10-30T04:32:35 < stvn> KOOL
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2017-10-30T05:35:21 < englishman> basically 1/2 of usa right there
2017-10-30T05:42:47 < stvn> PISS OFF WE'RE CLOSED
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2017-10-30T05:53:30 < Thorn> Koreasat-5A webcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUjH14vhLxA
2017-10-30T05:54:54 < Thorn> starting time looks wrong
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2017-10-30T06:05:25 < dongs> cool
2017-10-30T06:05:32 < dongs> live in  6 hours?
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2017-10-30T06:11:07 < Thorn> I think they confused am with pm
2017-10-30T06:11:30 < Thorn> so stream starting time is 12 hours too early
2017-10-30T06:28:27 < englishman> Bitcoin $6162.86
2017-10-30T06:33:35 < dongs> i saw a bike rental shop in fukuoka taking buttcoin
2017-10-30T06:33:39 < dongs> place looked shady as fuck
2017-10-30T06:34:20 < englishman> what kind of drugs can you get there
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2017-10-30T06:34:45 < dongs> not sure
2017-10-30T06:34:47 < dongs> i went to pickup a pal
2017-10-30T06:34:53 < dongs> picked a random airbnb not thinking
2017-10-30T06:35:00 < dongs> it ended up being in the middle of nakasu district
2017-10-30T06:35:04 < Thorn> launch is actually in 15 hours
2017-10-30T06:35:07 < dongs> which is apparently jap most famous red light district
2017-10-30T06:35:25 < dongs> i was wondering where the fuck i was when evening rolled in and there were whores literally on every corner
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2017-10-30T06:52:51 < dongs> where the motherfuck is pref in altidumb to NOT SELECT NETS WHEN CROSS REFERENCING TO PCB
2017-10-30T06:53:07 < dongs> fucking hell it was such a great shit to select a block of schematic and get all the components selected
2017-10-30T06:53:13 < dongs> then they fucking started attaching selecting nets to it
2017-10-30T06:53:25 < dongs> what is the fucking point to get 239847234982374289 GND pads selected
2017-10-30T06:54:37 < dongs> fucing found
2017-10-30T06:54:42 < dongs> system\navigation
2017-10-30T06:54:46 < dongs> objects for cross slection
2017-10-30T06:56:56 < englishman> shit was it that easy
2017-10-30T06:56:59 < englishman> so fucking annoying
2017-10-30T06:57:08 < dongs> yeah, thats what turns it off
2017-10-30T06:57:13 < dongs> finally i can stop raging
2017-10-30T06:57:29 < dongs> how the fuck can that ever be useful with that default
2017-10-30T07:01:29 < englishman> well altidumb pros seem to have sheet-specific nets
2017-10-30T07:01:46 < englishman> so selecting a box would only select a region of pcb anyway
2017-10-30T07:02:28 < dongs> huh thats dumb as fuck, im not splitting GND into 20 sheets
2017-10-30T07:02:54 < englishman> depends how pro
2017-10-30T07:03:15 < englishman> having 20 sheets is also pretty dumb sometimes
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2017-10-30T07:06:57 < Thorn> is nxp back to being named nxp? what happened to 'nexperia'
2017-10-30T07:07:04 < dongs> dixperia
2017-10-30T07:07:05 < dongs> its still there
2017-10-30T07:07:26 < Thorn> 2 different companies?
2017-10-30T07:07:29 < sync> yes
2017-10-30T07:07:33 < dongs> ya
2017-10-30T07:07:40 < sync> nexperia does all the lowend cheapshit stuff
2017-10-30T07:07:45 < dongs> iirc they did shit like logic ics and crap, while nxp still does the rest
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2017-10-30T07:10:02 < Thorn> okic. anything more complex than discrete logic -> nxp
2017-10-30T07:11:12 < Thorn> found cheap i2s dac https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/data-sheet/UDA1334BTS.pdf
2017-10-30T07:11:28 < dongs> > 2000 jul 31
2017-10-30T07:11:38 < dongs> Thorn: the DAC on F4Disco is actually dirt cheap in china
2017-10-30T07:11:41 < dongs> and has headphone amp as well
2017-10-30T07:11:47 < dongs> the cirrus whatevers
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2017-10-30T07:12:20 < Thorn> ok looking
2017-10-30T07:16:48 < Thorn> CS43L22 not found @ lcsc, 1 hit on aliexpress
2017-10-30T07:20:04 < dongs> donno, i bought a whole bunch in 2014-2015 and tehy were very cheap tehn
2017-10-30T07:20:13 < dongs> and available
2017-10-30T07:22:57 < dongs> http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/halifax-music-fest-apologizes-for-overt-racism-at-polaris-winners-concert
2017-10-30T07:23:45 < englishman> so gay
2017-10-30T07:24:50 < englishman> everyone involved is guilty of being a massive dong
2017-10-30T07:26:26 < dongs> haha
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2017-10-30T08:19:37 < dongs> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-kevinspacey/actor-kevin-spacey-declares-he-lives-life-as-a-gay-man-idUSKBN1CZ0CQ
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2017-10-30T09:34:18 < blacktronics> good to know that marquee club is the place not to go
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2017-10-30T11:23:00 < karlp> blacktronics: do you have anything meaningful/detailed about "can't get libopencm3 to build" ?
2017-10-30T11:23:05 < karlp> you just typemake in the root dir
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2017-10-30T11:59:11 < karlp> heh, china just told us "you're product is impossible"
2017-10-30T11:59:27 < karlp> no bois, that's the difference between assembling after a ref manual, and actually building shit :)
2017-10-30T12:02:05 < Steffanx> They failed to clone your power measurement tools karlp ?!
2017-10-30T12:02:39 < karlp> no, some partner was looking at making one portion of it compatible, and had it described to them,
2017-10-30T12:02:44 < karlp> they've replied, "not possible!"
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2017-10-30T12:45:22 < Steffanx> Are you proud of your modbus docs karlp ?
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2017-10-30T12:45:37 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/kdMHatB
2017-10-30T12:45:40 < Steffanx> I let that docs inspire me for some modbus stuff :P
2017-10-30T12:45:51 < Steffanx> Those*
2017-10-30T12:46:32 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/DOGFvxM
2017-10-30T12:47:30 < Steffanx> Laurenceb_: you better get back to usb issues. The amount of crap was much lower in those days
2017-10-30T12:52:18 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/mqas8BG
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2017-10-30T13:06:22 < karlp> I think I might have been at the time, but no, the modbus docs need updating again
2017-10-30T13:06:47 < karlp> well, depends which version you've seen.
2017-10-30T13:06:58 < karlp> most companie's modbus docs are "the same"
2017-10-30T13:07:18 < karlp> some of them have wayyyy too much information in them, like regurgitating half of the modbus specs on how to calculate crc and shit
2017-10-30T13:18:13 < Steffanx> Hah, yes i noticed
2017-10-30T13:19:26 < karlp> I'm actually working on new versions of ours today :)
2017-10-30T13:19:56 < karlp> anything you think I should have done better when you were reading them?
2017-10-30T13:20:04 < karlp> I'm happy they were good for you at all :)
2017-10-30T13:21:50 < dongs> ejsy
2017-10-30T13:21:52 < dongs> ehwat
2017-10-30T13:21:53 < dongs> waht
2017-10-30T13:22:00 < dongs> karlp: who you talkin to
2017-10-30T13:22:06 < dongs> O_6 is idle
2017-10-30T13:22:38 < dongs> oh
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2017-10-30T13:24:47 < dongs> http://www.megavolts.nl/en/projects/tesla-coils/201-pcb-spiral-teslacoil-en found kikemir's project
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2017-10-30T13:41:46 < Steffanx> Yeah, i liked them . They were more clear than many other manuals, karlp
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2017-10-30T13:42:40 < Steffanx> Lol dongs, you ohsix'd me?
2017-10-30T13:45:12 < dongs> ya man
2017-10-30T13:45:22 < dongs> cuz my autism detector was firing
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2017-10-30T13:47:38 < aandrew> karlp: hahaha
2017-10-30T13:47:46 < aandrew> your product is impossible?
2017-10-30T13:48:11 < aandrew> god I hate modbus
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2017-10-30T13:48:51 < Steffanx> I like modbus, its so easy
2017-10-30T13:49:47 < Steffanx> But the 16 bit part sucks arse
2017-10-30T13:49:59 < aandrew> wow that megavolts tesla coil must suck
2017-10-30T13:50:16 < aandrew> a single planar coil like that would have almost no coupling
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2017-10-30T13:50:49 < aandrew> modbus sucks ass
2017-10-30T13:51:07 < aandrew> there's nothing it offers over simpler protocols, and modbus is pretty fucking simple
2017-10-30T13:51:31 < Steffanx> Better use foundation fieldbus or HART right?
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2017-10-30T13:51:55 < aandrew> it's funny, at the time I was really into industrial comms I hated how regimented CIP was, but now I really like it
2017-10-30T13:51:58 < aandrew> lol
2017-10-30T13:52:06 < aandrew> nah
2017-10-30T13:52:43 < aandrew> IMO if you're gonna use a protocol, use one with enough brains that systms can be even moderately compatible and discoverable
2017-10-30T13:53:02 < aandrew> I'm really into machine comms and the only way you get that is with more developed protocols
2017-10-30T13:53:28 < aandrew> so equipment can learn what is around and have a half a chance of interfacing to it without setting us up the bomb
2017-10-30T13:58:15 < qyx> lets profinet everything
2017-10-30T13:59:56 < karlp> aandrew: what's the "simpler" protocol you'd use instead in plces where modbus is common?
2017-10-30T14:00:43 < karlp> higher stuff is cool for autointegration and detection and all that, but compatibility is still a fucking disaster
2017-10-30T14:00:59 < karlp> modbus just works.
2017-10-30T14:01:05 < aandrew> karlp: I'd eliminate the idea of coils and contacts. everything is just a length and value. Keep the idea of addressing including global addressing and CRC32 the entire message
2017-10-30T14:01:08 < aandrew> that's it
2017-10-30T14:01:19 < karlp> oh yeah, I don't do _shit with coils and contacts, fucking useless
2017-10-30T14:01:56 < aandrew> every message is [dest][src][len][crc32][value(s)]
2017-10-30T14:01:57 < karlp> I don't evne accept those function codes.
2017-10-30T14:04:41 < aandrew> and yes, compatibility is always troublesome, although CIP got around that rather nicely with generic profiles (like bluetotoh and usb)
2017-10-30T14:05:42 < aandrew> you have a basic motor controller that you can start/stop and see status.  Oh, you can also report current? there's an extended motor controller which is still generic enough to handle that. If you're a VFD you have a generic VFD profile which extends extended motor contorller and adds things like speed control, etc.
2017-10-30T14:05:58 < aandrew> it's not perfect, but it allows you to get things set up and working pretty decently
2017-10-30T14:06:10 < karlp> yar.
2017-10-30T14:06:21 < karlp> common models are definitely nice,
2017-10-30T14:06:29 < karlp> modbus is just lowest common "this will just work"
2017-10-30T14:06:47 < karlp> we've had a bunch of companies go, "can you make it support protocol XYZ"  "sure, how many you want to buy"
2017-10-30T14:06:53 < karlp> "oh, nvm, we cna use modbus"
2017-10-30T14:06:54 < aandrew> where CIP failed was where they allowed vendors (A-B naturally) to define the some of the basic models in such a way that they actually only worked for A-B's stuff and everyone else had to use a really shitty base profile even though they could do the other stuff
2017-10-30T14:07:04 < aandrew> karlp: yep money talks
2017-10-30T14:07:26 < karlp> AB allen bradley? or ABB?
2017-10-30T14:07:35 < aandrew> allen bradley
2017-10-30T14:07:49 < aandrew> ABB didn't play those games,a t least not on comms
2017-10-30T14:07:59 < karlp> there seems to be an awful lot of vendor camps with the protocols.
2017-10-30T14:08:05 < aandrew> well yeah
2017-10-30T14:08:10 < karlp> and then euro/us as well.
2017-10-30T14:08:10 < aandrew> everyone wants to lock their customers in
2017-10-30T14:08:18 < aandrew> CIP was nice in that it pushed back quite hard against it
2017-10-30T14:08:36  * karlp has never actually seen a bacnet device, but I'm assured they're very common in north america :)
2017-10-30T14:08:43 < aandrew> CIP doesn't do any kind of discovery or anyhthing advanced, it's what I'd consider a minimum machine compatible protocol though
2017-10-30T14:08:54 < aandrew> haha yeah bacnet does exist but it's very niche
2017-10-30T14:09:07 < aandrew> I don't know about "common"
2017-10-30T14:10:02 < karlp> things we are asked for most often was generically, "wireless" without further details
2017-10-30T14:10:05 < aandrew> it's one of those things people put on specs to try to cut out their competition
2017-10-30T14:11:36 < karlp> schneider actually has docs on CIP on modbus, from 2008
2017-10-30T14:12:27 < aandrew> *nods* I left Benshaw in 20007 and had already deisgned a protocol gateway and wrote my own CIP stack
2017-10-30T14:12:28 < karlp> our problem is just getting ethernet connectors on things in the space required.
2017-10-30T14:12:55 < aandrew> ethernet in industrial applications took a long time to catch on, there was a lot of FUD spread
2017-10-30T14:13:10 < karlp> oh fuyck yeah, just reading some of the older bullshit out there against ethernet
2017-10-30T14:13:15 < karlp> such vitriol. such fear
2017-10-30T14:13:23 < karlp> reminded me of icelandic elections...
2017-10-30T14:13:45 < aandrew> I'm not familiar with icelandic elections
2017-10-30T14:13:49 < aandrew> although now I'm intrigued
2017-10-30T14:16:05 < karlp> nah, just had our second federal election within a year.
2017-10-30T14:16:12 < karlp> a few too many personality cults
2017-10-30T14:16:41 < karlp> where are the actual protocol docs for odva?
2017-10-30T14:18:12 < karlp> oh right, it's all pay to play
2017-10-30T14:18:24 < karlp> well, they can fuck right off again then.
2017-10-30T14:19:14 < fest> I was wondering, how would this closet look if I had used ethernet instead of modbus to control those vfds (+ 10 more in separate closet): https://imgur.com/a/HZqmf
2017-10-30T14:19:29 < fest> is it common for vfds to have built in switch?
2017-10-30T14:20:12 < fest> I mean wiring all of them for ethernet and hiding the extra lengths of cables somewhere
2017-10-30T14:20:26 < karlp> I don't know shit abotu vfds, but I've seen a bunch of industrial ethernet stuff having a two port switch, so it can have up/down on each device
2017-10-30T14:20:58 < karlp> because yeah, who wants to do 20-30 separate runs of cat5 cable.
2017-10-30T14:22:18 < aandrew> karlp: not sure anymore, I have the three binder set and CD from back then. IIRC the spec is pay to play (which is a problem)
2017-10-30T14:23:07 < aandrew> karlp: oh that was the other thing I really appreciated about CIP: the certification process had a fully documented and self-cert route which helped me eliminate a lot of bugs before ever hitting official cert
2017-10-30T14:23:22 < aandrew> it was fucking brutal but ultimately helped strengthen mys tack
2017-10-30T14:24:06 < aandrew> they were ahead of their time. I didn't know the term back then but I'd say their self-cert software did a fairly complete form of fuzzing
2017-10-30T14:24:11 < karlp> yeah, a good cert program is nice.
2017-10-30T14:24:39 < karlp> I've found a bunch of little niggles over the years in modbus stacks,
2017-10-30T14:24:46 < aandrew> karlp: nice panel
2017-10-30T14:24:53 < karlp> (that's fest)
2017-10-30T14:24:58 < aandrew> er damn
2017-10-30T14:25:03 < aandrew> nice panel, fest
2017-10-30T14:25:28 < aandrew> fest: not to my knowledge. serial ports,e ven fully isolated, are cheap
2017-10-30T14:25:36 < aandrew> ethernet is always a cost adder
2017-10-30T14:25:53 < karlp> it's time will come, but yeah.
2017-10-30T14:26:04 < aandrew> and no, I've never seen a piece of industrial equipment with its own switch. I think that would be a bad idea anyway
2017-10-30T14:26:12 < aandrew> you don't want your drive to blow up and take out the entire network
2017-10-30T14:26:37 < karlp> well, it's a POE setup, should be the switches are just all self powere,d
2017-10-30T14:26:47 < karlp> they're run as a 3 port switch, on up, one down and oneinternal,
2017-10-30T14:26:53 < karlp> if that's PoE, maybe?
2017-10-30T14:26:55  * karlp shrugs
2017-10-30T14:26:57 < karlp> modbus!
2017-10-30T14:28:04 < fest> yeah, some of siemens stuff has a three port switch like that
2017-10-30T14:28:22 < fest> but that would probably be a bad idea to daisy chain a lot of them anyway
2017-10-30T14:29:27 < karlp> certainly not going to do 20-30 devices like modbus
2017-10-30T14:30:32 < qyx> aandrew: for profinet HF it is mandatory afaik
2017-10-30T14:31:18 < qyx> fest: yes, those siemens things with ertec processors
2017-10-30T14:31:33 < qyx> I found it even accessible as a chip
2017-10-30T14:31:40 < qyx> for many $$$
2017-10-30T14:32:36 < qyx> I see that a mikrotik is a must to have
2017-10-30T14:33:15 < fest> sure, have to support local manufacturers
2017-10-30T14:33:24 < karlp> profinet just looks expensive and bulky no matter what way you go.
2017-10-30T14:33:51 < karlp> hrm, cip looks lik eit would probably be "easy" to make our modbus stuff "well integrated" into CIP stuff, but only if we shell otu all the money on specs.
2017-10-30T14:33:56 < qyx> why, it can be implemented using a standard ethernet phy (like ethercat and ethernet ip)
2017-10-30T14:34:12 < qyx> but the software is meh
2017-10-30T14:34:26 < qyx> I hate it actually
2017-10-30T14:34:47 < fest> mikrotik or profinet? :)
2017-10-30T14:35:44 < qyx> profinet
2017-10-30T14:35:57 < qyx> profinet is gud
2017-10-30T14:36:01 < qyx> nah
2017-10-30T14:36:03 < qyx> mikrotik I mean
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2017-10-30T15:03:05 < karlp> TIL lunix kernel has built in support for generating 9 SCL toggles to unshitify i2c buses
2017-10-30T15:03:12 < dongs> haha really
2017-10-30T15:03:49 < karlp> just reinforces my desire to never use i2c unless forced to.
2017-10-30T15:04:13 < qyx> heh
2017-10-30T15:06:42 < dongs> https://www.banggood.com/search/1216799.html just what i've always wanted
2017-10-30T15:17:31 < dongs> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/scam/32769985312.html Thorn / other aliexpress pros, what part# is that clone of
2017-10-30T15:17:34 < dongs> I've seen that shit everywehre
2017-10-30T15:18:26 < dongs> is not https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/1-292303-6/A118230CT-ND/5306349 cuz boss pins are in diff place
2017-10-30T15:18:33 < dongs> and i dont see molex making any SMD usb-A?
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2017-10-30T15:22:40 < karlp> dongs: were you really linking to the phone fidget spinner?
2017-10-30T15:23:14 < dongs> yes
2017-10-30T15:23:40 < dongs> the only way to link to faggood pages anonymously is put item ID into /search
2017-10-30T15:23:56 < karlp> that aliexpress page has got two different parts in the pics.
2017-10-30T15:24:01 < dongs> yea
2017-10-30T15:24:04 < dongs> one wiht a bosspin missing
2017-10-30T15:24:08 < dongs> but I think i got a jackpot
2017-10-30T15:24:11 < dongs> its probly multicomp clone
2017-10-30T15:24:16 < dongs> getting close via uk.farnell.com
2017-10-30T15:25:14 < Thorn> iirc there could be a pattern for it in dicktrace libs with a weird digit only name
2017-10-30T15:25:24 < dongs> im not lookin for a pattern
2017-10-30T15:25:30 < dongs> im looking for what reputable manufacturer they cloned it from
2017-10-30T15:25:33 < dongs> so i can get their 3d model
2017-10-30T15:25:45 < dongs> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1864222.pdf?_ga=2.82942038.1719558592.1509369862-1081680320.1509369862
2017-10-30T15:25:52 < Thorn> the name could be a clue though
2017-10-30T15:25:55 < dongs> lol @ usb 3.0
2017-10-30T15:26:25 < dongs> Today I learned that Multicomp, far from being an electronics manufacturer, are in fact a reseller of other manufacturer's components. Multicomp is owned by SPC Technologies, which in turn is owned by Premier Farnell. Presumably, Multicomp is an abbreviation of "Multiple Companies". Unsurprisingly, Farnell/Element 14/Newark stock Multicomp parts and, confusingly, list the manufacturer as 'Multicomp'.
2017-10-30T15:26:42 < dongs> lolz.
2017-10-30T15:27:39 < dongs> http://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/usb-a-s-ra-tsmt/usb-3-0-type-a-receptacle-smt/dp/2112370 pic on farfnell definitly loks like the shit on aliexpress
2017-10-30T15:29:00 < qyx> doesnt look like usb3
2017-10-30T15:29:17 < aandrew> I love how they mark them "USB 3.0" when they're only the HS pins
2017-10-30T15:30:12 < dongs> yeah
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2017-10-30T15:32:59 < dongs> Thorn: was it c-292303-9
2017-10-30T15:33:16 < dongs> oh thats the shit i linked
2017-10-30T15:33:17 < dongs> from digikey
2017-10-30T15:33:23 < karlp> well, usb3 includes usb2 right, so it's usb3 spec compliant :)
2017-10-30T15:33:38 < dongs> boss pins are not even close
2017-10-30T15:33:39 < karlp> same shit as usb2 for usb1.1 only devices
2017-10-30T15:33:39 < dongs> fucking hell
2017-10-30T15:45:36 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/clQSHOf.png
2017-10-30T15:50:50 < jpa-> hmph, no cmsis intrinsic for SXTB16 with rotation amount
2017-10-30T15:52:30 < dongs> ahahah fucking altifuck
2017-10-30T15:52:41 < dongs> if you select a through-hole pad in pcblib inspector
2017-10-30T15:52:52 < dongs> and change it to top layer from insopector box, (like if you selected more than one pad)
2017-10-30T15:52:56 < dongs> it fucking fails turning it into a hole
2017-10-30T15:53:05 < dongs> but if you double click pad and change to top layer from that dialog
2017-10-30T15:53:06 < dongs> it works
2017-10-30T15:53:09 < dongs> fucking aids
2017-10-30T15:53:59 < dongs> ok works if I set hole size to zero first
2017-10-30T15:56:09 < dongs> when does capacity increase, wehn you paralell or serial batts?
2017-10-30T15:56:11 < dongs> Ah
2017-10-30T15:56:16 < englishman> lol
2017-10-30T15:56:24 < englishman> capacity increases when you add more batts
2017-10-30T15:56:29 < dongs> so serial?
2017-10-30T15:56:31 < englishman> wat
2017-10-30T15:56:39 < englishman> capacity is Wh not Ah
2017-10-30T15:56:45 < dongs> er wat
2017-10-30T15:56:51 < dongs> so what capcity is a leaf cell then
2017-10-30T15:56:57 < dongs> it is 4S2P
2017-10-30T15:57:02 < dongs> 33Ah is one "cell"
2017-10-30T15:57:10 < dongs> is it 66 or whatever?
2017-10-30T15:57:10 < tpw_rules> well if you want to make it more capacity and the same volts
2017-10-30T15:57:20 < tpw_rules> you need 4 more in parallel
2017-10-30T15:57:23 < dongs> er 2S2P
2017-10-30T15:57:32 < englishman> 125.8Wh
2017-10-30T15:57:35 < tpw_rules> 2 serial 2 parallel
2017-10-30T15:57:48 < dongs> how'd you calc that
2017-10-30T15:58:07 < englishman> *2 i guess
2017-10-30T15:58:11 < dongs> 3.8V*33?
2017-10-30T15:58:13 < englishman> 3.8 * 33.something
2017-10-30T15:58:19 < englishman> so 250Wh
2017-10-30T15:58:58 < dongs> hmm
2017-10-30T15:59:03 < dongs> but if total capacity is 24kWh
2017-10-30T15:59:07 < dongs> and tehres 48 modules
2017-10-30T15:59:21 < dongs> doesnt that mean each module is 500-ish?
2017-10-30T15:59:30 < qyx> yes
2017-10-30T15:59:31 < englishman> ah yah so 4 cells per pack
2017-10-30T15:59:33 < englishman> 125Wh per cell
2017-10-30T15:59:50 < qyx> 4s2p is one pack?
2017-10-30T15:59:56 < dongs> 2S2P
2017-10-30T15:59:58 < qyx> 125Wh is a single cell, so 500Wh is a pack
2017-10-30T15:59:59 < englishman> http://hybridautocenter.com/HAC4/index.php?option=com_hikashop&ctrl=product&task=show&cid=91&name=58ah-nissan-leaf-battery-module&Itemid=605
2017-10-30T16:00:01 < dongs> okay
2017-10-30T16:00:05 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/2TjFdhW
2017-10-30T16:00:07 < qyx> yes, 2s2p
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2017-10-30T16:00:57 < englishman> if you want to increase voltage you do it at the expense of Ah
2017-10-30T16:01:04 < englishman> but Wh stays the same
2017-10-30T16:01:47 < englishman> my chink atv goes on the boat today
2017-10-30T16:02:03 < englishman> http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:687614/mmsi:477441800/imo:9645889/vessel:CSCL_BOHAI_SEA
2017-10-30T16:02:59 < dongs> cool
2017-10-30T16:03:25 < englishman> was like $1/kg to ship from china
2017-10-30T16:04:07 < dongs> yeah when i shipped a pallet of woodplasticcomposite it was cheap as fuck
2017-10-30T16:04:10 < qyx> can you track it until it drowns
2017-10-30T16:04:24 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/zAapwc5
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2017-10-30T16:20:54 < Laurenceb> hmf
2017-10-30T16:20:56 < Laurenceb>  8003d70:	6004      	str	r4, [r0, #0]
2017-10-30T16:21:04 < Laurenceb> ^thats causes a hardfault
2017-10-30T16:21:15 < Laurenceb> r0             0x200004a9
2017-10-30T16:21:35 < PaulFertser> What does vectstate gdb script say?
2017-10-30T16:23:09 < jpa-> yeah, could be imprecise fault
2017-10-30T16:24:06 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-30T16:24:11 < Laurenceb> texane died :P
2017-10-30T16:26:25 < Laurenceb> exception frame is on MSP
2017-10-30T16:26:25 < Laurenceb>   r0: 200004a9  r1: 20000920  r2: ffff8080  r3: 00000127
2017-10-30T16:26:25 < Laurenceb>   r4: 00000000  r5: 200006f8  r6: 200006d0  r7: 20001756
2017-10-30T16:26:25 < Laurenceb>   r8: ffffffff  r9: ffffffff r10: ffffffff r11: ffffffff
2017-10-30T16:26:25 < Laurenceb>  r12: 00000f0f  lr: 08003d61  pc: 08003d70 PSR: 2100002f
2017-10-30T16:28:36 < jpa-> scb cfsr is what we would like to see
2017-10-30T16:29:48 < Laurenceb> this is M0
2017-10-30T16:31:51 < englishman> for dongs https://streamable.com/90gx5
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2017-10-30T16:41:56 < Laurenceb> oh I think its alignment
2017-10-30T16:42:07 < Laurenceb> if the address is aligned the problem goes away
2017-10-30T16:42:30 < Laurenceb> >There is no support for unaligned accesses on the Cortex-M0 processor.
2017-10-30T16:42:31 < Laurenceb> derp
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2017-10-30T16:50:03 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: what C code lead to unaligned access?
2017-10-30T16:53:17 < Laurenceb> ST HAL code
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2017-10-30T16:53:52 < Laurenceb> looks like lots of typecasting that gets compiled as something involving a 32bit access to an unaligned array
2017-10-30T16:54:06 < Laurenceb> only with -Os
2017-10-30T16:57:42 < PaulFertser> Oh, typecasting.
2017-10-30T16:57:44 < PaulFertser> ST HAL shit.
2017-10-30T16:59:07 < Laurenceb> USBD_static_malloc
2017-10-30T16:59:13 < Laurenceb> is the source of the issue
2017-10-30T16:59:32 < Laurenceb> the st editwar function
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2017-10-30T17:15:36 < Laurenceb> http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Norwegian-bank-issues-anti-Semetic-credit-card-says-sorry-413919
2017-10-30T17:15:40 < Laurenceb> crt at work
2017-10-30T17:19:17 < englishman> lol
2017-10-30T17:20:28 < dongs> isnt that just a custom photo card?
2017-10-30T17:20:35 < dongs> i can order those from wellsfargo in usa
2017-10-30T17:20:52 < dongs> but they say if I upload my own iamge it might have to go through verification before they issue a card with it
2017-10-30T17:21:05 < PaulFertser> What exactly was anti-semitic in that picture?
2017-10-30T17:21:14 < dongs> PaulFertser: the hooknose jew pic
2017-10-30T17:21:15 < dongs> i guess
2017-10-30T17:21:23 < dongs> jews get all riled up over the simplest shit man
2017-10-30T17:21:26 < dongs> EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET US
2017-10-30T17:21:29 < englishman> looks pro-semitic to me
2017-10-30T17:21:33 < dongs> haha
2017-10-30T17:21:42 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/GGfHL9c
2017-10-30T17:21:58 < invzim> why is it called schematic capture?  What's being captured?
2017-10-30T17:22:05 < englishman> your thoughts
2017-10-30T17:22:10 < Laurenceb> ur virginity
2017-10-30T17:23:11 < PaulFertser> dongs: in fact, jews seem to like jew jokes.
2017-10-30T17:31:47 < Laurenceb> ok wut
2017-10-30T17:31:50 < Laurenceb> moar hardfaults
2017-10-30T17:32:03 < Laurenceb> ldrsh	r3, [r6, r2]
2017-10-30T17:32:22 < Laurenceb> r6             0x2000063d , r0  0
2017-10-30T17:32:26 < Laurenceb> *r2 0
2017-10-30T17:32:57 < Laurenceb> a half aligned half word?
2017-10-30T17:36:10 < Laurenceb> wait wut
2017-10-30T17:36:26 < Laurenceb> how the fuck did that happen
2017-10-30T17:37:45 < jsoft> Anyone know of a nice simple oled display library ?
2017-10-30T17:37:49 < jsoft> (i2c)
2017-10-30T17:37:54 < jsoft> Ideally which works with HAL
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2017-10-30T17:40:34 < Laurenceb> >works
2017-10-30T17:40:37 < Laurenceb> >HAL
2017-10-30T17:44:01 < englishman> ugfx
2017-10-30T17:46:27 < jsoft> englishman, ugfx you say
2017-10-30T17:54:59 < Laurenceb> hmm
2017-10-30T17:55:09 < Laurenceb> -Os not much faster than -Og on M0
2017-10-30T17:55:42 < Laurenceb> what are best settings for speed?
2017-10-30T17:56:13 < Thorn> -O3
2017-10-30T17:56:25 < Thorn> welcome to strict aliasing etc.
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2017-10-30T18:17:27 < Thorn> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/SpaceX_Falcon_Heavy_schedule_delays.png
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2017-10-30T18:21:58 < englishman> thorn how is this supposed to be interpreted
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2017-10-30T18:22:22 < englishman> how can "current time" be a variable
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2017-10-30T18:23:22 < englishman> what a mess
2017-10-30T18:23:30 < Thorn> dunno lol
2017-10-30T18:24:29 < Ultrasauce> looks pretty straightforward to me
2017-10-30T18:24:34 < Ultrasauce> just shows the schedule being pushed back
2017-10-30T18:24:49 < Thorn> I'd expect the eventual intersection of the 45 degree line with an announced point to be the actual time of launch but apparently that is not necessarily so
2017-10-30T18:24:51 < englishman> does it
2017-10-30T18:25:08 < englishman> why does an item like "scheduled time" have an x and y component
2017-10-30T18:25:13 < englishman> this shit makes no sense dude
2017-10-30T18:25:14 < karlp> burn down charts
2017-10-30T18:25:24 < karlp> welcome to agile my friend
2017-10-30T18:25:29 < Thorn> time of announcement and announced time
2017-10-30T18:25:41 < englishman> wat
2017-10-30T18:26:05 < Thorn> on march 1 they said "it will be july 1st", x = march 1, y = july 1
2017-10-30T18:26:07 < karlp> looks fine to me.
2017-10-30T18:26:23 < englishman> so it's trying to show that leadtime before launch is decreasing
2017-10-30T18:26:30 < englishman> or the opposite of what Ultrasauce said
2017-10-30T18:26:35 < Ultrasauce> no it has nothing to do with lead time
2017-10-30T18:27:43 < englishman> the actual article also does not have any accompanying info
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2017-10-30T18:27:53 < englishman> it just barfs that graph in the middle of an unrelated paragraph
2017-10-30T18:28:11 < Thorn> >wikipedia
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2017-10-30T18:31:45 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Falcon_Heavy#History_of_schedule_delays
2017-10-30T18:31:47 < englishman> zero fucking sense
2017-10-30T18:32:06 < englishman> it doesnt even match up with data here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches#Past_launches
2017-10-30T18:32:46 < Ultrasauce> you know the falcon heavy has never launched right
2017-10-30T18:33:02 < englishman> no, and that graph does not help me understand that
2017-10-30T18:33:11 < Thorn> Spaceflight articles needing attention to referencing and citation | Spaceflight articles needing attention to coverage and accuracy | Spaceflight articles needing attention to structure | Spaceflight articles needing attention to grammar | Spaceflight articles needing attention to supporting materials | Spaceflight articles needing attention to accessibility
2017-10-30T18:33:20 < englishman> heh
2017-10-30T18:34:15 < englishman> so they are doing a duke nukem style "it'll be done in 3 months" the last 7 years
2017-10-30T18:34:28 < Ultrasauce> yes
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2017-10-30T18:52:53 < Thorn> >flicker rules: with this setting you determine whether the blocking time of the switching elements (Triac or contactor) are controlled normally ("On") to maintain "Flicker"-regulations or whether the blocking time is reduced to optimise the precision of the control ("Off")
2017-10-30T18:53:01 < Thorn> wtf is this about, switch bounce?
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2017-10-30T19:14:17 < Thorn> or power line flicker
2017-10-30T19:16:37 < Laurenceb> perplexing
2017-10-30T19:16:45 < Laurenceb>  -O3 garbles my usb descriptors
2017-10-30T19:16:55 < Laurenceb> well - the string ones
2017-10-30T19:19:04 < Steffanx> How do you even dare to compile HAL with O3?
2017-10-30T19:21:04 < Laurenceb> looks like USBD_GetString is being weird
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2017-10-30T19:25:22 < Laurenceb> somehow its treating a char pointer as uint32_t
2017-10-30T19:27:30 < Cracki> wrong signature/headers?
2017-10-30T19:39:07 < Laurenceb> I think it thinks that uint8_t* no longer points to consecutive bytes
2017-10-30T19:39:11 < Laurenceb> really weird
2017-10-30T19:39:35 < Laurenceb> its writing to address offsets 8,12,16,20
2017-10-30T19:39:43 < Laurenceb> should be 2,4,6,8
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2017-10-30T20:23:45 < BrainDamage> found laurenceb's next field of research https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28763709 (NSFW)
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2017-10-30T20:32:33 < Cracki> spacex is sending another dildo into orbit in around an hour
2017-10-30T20:32:56 < Cracki> good article :>
2017-10-30T20:34:54 < Cracki> These descriptions may aid in clinically differentiating pleasurable and pathological rectal stimulation.
2017-10-30T20:35:04 < Cracki> so determining if someone had fun or not
2017-10-30T20:35:05 < PaulFertser> That's science! Can't be NSFW!
2017-10-30T20:44:31 < Steffanx> How Gary Niger cannot have been part of that research team BrainDamage?
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2017-10-30T21:08:19 < englishman> im just wondering how it relates to his patent
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2017-10-30T21:09:34 < Steffanx> With "his" being BrainDamage, englishman?
2017-10-30T21:10:27 < BrainDamage> considering the amount of shitpost he produces daily, rectal-anything should be pretty familiar
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2017-10-30T21:21:06 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUjH14vhLxA started
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2017-10-30T21:30:43 < englishman> thanks Thorn
2017-10-30T21:34:22 < englishman> space penis away
2017-10-30T21:34:32 < Cracki> spacex rocket is going up
2017-10-30T21:34:35 < Cracki> :D
2017-10-30T21:40:53 < upgrdman> did they have difficulty getting it up?
2017-10-30T21:41:38 < englishman> how do i fastforward
2017-10-30T21:41:43 < upgrdman> l
2017-10-30T21:41:57 < upgrdman> j/k/l to go back/play-pause/forward
2017-10-30T21:42:36 < englishman> thx
2017-10-30T21:42:40 < englishman> doesnt seem to work
2017-10-30T21:44:41 < Steffanx> You're on windows right? Should wokr there.
2017-10-30T21:44:58 < Steffanx> worksonmymachine.pro
2017-10-30T21:44:59 < englishman> im pressing
2017-10-30T21:45:33 < Steffanx> fyi: time travelling doesnt work, yet.
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2017-10-30T21:51:23 < Steffanx> How is foxconning englishman? You hardly talk about it anymore.
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2017-10-30T22:17:38 < englishman> Steffanx: going well, not much to complain about since my skillz and quality of tools have increased
2017-10-30T22:18:04 < englishman> sure would like to get this realjob tho, so I can waste other people's money at a whole new level
2017-10-30T22:18:43 < Steffanx> 50/50 timewise or .. fulltime jobbing?
2017-10-30T22:22:32 < englishman> right now?
2017-10-30T22:22:44 < englishman> or realjob
2017-10-30T22:22:46 < englishman> realjob would be full time
2017-10-30T22:24:12 < Steffanx> i meant real job
2017-10-30T22:24:34 < englishman> yeah
2017-10-30T22:24:43 < englishman> i'd keep the office tho
2017-10-30T22:24:45 < englishman> since it's cheap
2017-10-30T22:25:15 < englishman> maybe do some assembly for same company since id have insider knowledge
2017-10-30T22:26:20 < upgrdman> oh was foxconning just to hold you over until getting a real job?
2017-10-30T22:26:58 < englishman> no it's what i'm doing now, and pretty stable
2017-10-30T22:27:06 < upgrdman> o ok
2017-10-30T22:27:54 < englishman> but now that im doing it a few months, it feels more like something to come back to than something to do as a career
2017-10-30T22:28:18 < upgrdman> why? boring?
2017-10-30T22:28:33 < englishman> not exactly
2017-10-30T22:28:50 < englishman> but i'll never work on large projects at 1 man company
2017-10-30T22:29:10 < englishman> ive only had 1-2 projects where i work with other actual engineers
2017-10-30T22:29:57 < englishman> i'm not exactly sure how to advance, without taking on much more debt and responsibility, and i'm already pretty tapped out
2017-10-30T22:30:10 < englishman> on the responsibility part, not the debt part
2017-10-30T22:30:56 < englishman> like, how am i supposed to grow a business, when i'm solely doing engineering shit
2017-10-30T22:31:06 < englishman> i would need someone else with complementary skills
2017-10-30T22:33:58 < upgrdman> do like dave jones and get a intern for your bitch work
2017-10-30T22:34:17 < upgrdman> have intern do easier projects while you get him up to speed?
2017-10-30T22:35:13 < englishman> the bitch projects don't really take a lot of time
2017-10-30T22:35:18 < englishman> and/or china does them for me
2017-10-30T22:36:16 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-30T22:36:25 < englishman> yeah
2017-10-30T22:36:27 < englishman> so i dono
2017-10-30T22:37:09 < englishman> i did have an employee last year
2017-10-30T22:37:28 < englishman> but like, organizing him took as much time as just doing the work
2017-10-30T22:38:15 < upgrdman> with most jobs, the first 6-12 months is just the training phase. are you giving up too early?
2017-10-30T22:38:17 < englishman> also employees are expensive as fuck
2017-10-30T22:38:23 < upgrdman> yes, agreed
2017-10-30T22:38:32 < englishman> like i have to spend all of tomorrow with the taxman as i got audited for employee deductions
2017-10-30T22:38:50 < englishman> dono
2017-10-30T22:38:56 < englishman> i'm also not that great of a businesscat
2017-10-30T22:39:07 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-30T22:40:11 < Steffanx> The hardest part for me would be dealing with the clients
2017-10-30T22:40:27 < Steffanx> and the part where you fail to deliver because you cannot get the parts ( on time )
2017-10-30T22:40:44 < englishman> ive been good at that part
2017-10-30T22:40:59 < englishman> not ordering from ARROW has basically made my business highly successful
2017-10-30T22:42:07 < englishman> and highly autistic inventory management
2017-10-30T22:52:03 < branjb> upgrdman I finally figured out what my issue was, kinda dumb
2017-10-30T22:52:18 < upgrdman> ?
2017-10-30T22:52:22 < branjb> not enough torque in my stepper motors to support the weight of my robot
2017-10-30T22:52:34 < upgrdman> oh. ya that'd do it :)
2017-10-30T22:52:37 < branjb> haha
2017-10-30T22:52:48 < branjb> shitty chinese stepper board could only do 1A per motor
2017-10-30T22:52:50 < upgrdman> so it was skipping steps?
2017-10-30T22:52:58 < branjb> yeah, pretty much
2017-10-30T22:53:12 < upgrdman> howd you find out? just by cop'ing a feel?
2017-10-30T22:53:13 < branjb> that's why it was just flopping over
2017-10-30T22:53:25 < branjb> the holding torque couldn't hold it upright when it was close to balanced
2017-10-30T22:53:32 < branjb> I finally picked it up and held it by the wheels
2017-10-30T22:53:38 < branjb> and it would always just fall to  6 o clock
2017-10-30T22:53:43 < upgrdman> ah
2017-10-30T22:54:30 < branjb> swapped the stepper motors out for some higher torque ones, it almost balances but can't quite hold the weight
2017-10-30T22:54:33 < branjb> need better drivers
2017-10-30T22:55:26 < branjb> I also kind of realized it when I watched a bunch of youtube videos, everyone using steppers for self balancing is using plastic/plywood
2017-10-30T22:55:38 < branjb> no one had heavy builds
2017-10-30T22:56:40 < upgrdman> 1A drivers are super weak tho. arent most nema17+ steppers rated for 1.5+A?
2017-10-30T22:57:01 < upgrdman> i think i have some nema17's rated for >2A
2017-10-30T22:57:16 < branjb> yeah the ones I have are rated at around 2A
2017-10-30T22:57:43 < branjb> my drivers are just those shitty DRV8585 ones or whatever that are set at 1A
2017-10-30T22:58:58 < branjb> stepper current is weird though right?  my drivers are set at 1A per motor, so you would expect it be using 2A though right?  my power supply says it's outputting ~.7-.8A under load though
2017-10-30T22:59:48 < upgrdman> might be pwm averaging
2017-10-30T23:00:18 < upgrdman> e.g. 2A peak but because of duty cycle the meter shows much less
2017-10-30T23:00:28 < branjb> yeah I figured it was because stepper motors are switching really fast
2017-10-30T23:00:30 < branjb> right
2017-10-30T23:00:49 < upgrdman> or if its a shitty meter (not true rms) it could be aliasing
2017-10-30T23:06:59 < Ultrasauce> https://i.imgur.com/TGYC0Q2.jpg
2017-10-30T23:08:03 < sync> branjb: putt a current probe on one motor lead
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2017-10-30T23:19:59 < Steffanx> Dear Alltium-pros. Does altium come with some default pad/via library or do i have to create my own? When placing a pad it only shows a single Template.
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2017-10-30T23:36:19 < upgrdman> i always just made my own, but maybe im doing it the dumb way
2017-10-30T23:38:47 < Thorn> are these motors+wheels any good https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1set-K521-3-12V-N20-50-300RPM-Speed-Reduction-Gear-Motor-With-D-Type-Shaft-Rubber/32642563919.html
2017-10-30T23:39:34 < upgrdman> looks pretty shitty
2017-10-30T23:39:54 < upgrdman> and at $5 each, you might as well buy soem kids toy and tear it apart
2017-10-30T23:40:22 < Thorn> yeah, pretty expensive
2017-10-30T23:40:47 < Thorn> a kit of 4 motors like that is $12-$13
2017-10-30T23:41:24 < upgrdman> i miss when consumer printers were overengineered
2017-10-30T23:41:34 < Thorn> I've got several steppers from printers etc. but iirc they're all different :/
2017-10-30T23:41:41 < upgrdman> you could take apart some trash printer and get ass loads of nice motors, gears, encoders, etc.
2017-10-30T23:42:01 < upgrdman> now theyre just dc motors + plastic encoder strip/wheel
2017-10-30T23:48:14 < englishman> Steffanx: make your own
2017-10-30T23:48:21 < englishman> its not a "have to" thing
2017-10-30T23:48:32 < englishman> making your own footprints is essential
2017-10-30T23:50:11 < Steffanx> Yes, but.. pads..
2017-10-30T23:51:59 < englishman> yes you will be excellent at making pads
2017-10-30T23:59:30 < Steffanx> I better hire a paki to do my parts
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2017-10-31T00:03:57 < upgrdman> its not that hard
2017-10-31T00:04:28 < upgrdman> theres also that footprint generator wizard thinggy for making common footprints
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2017-10-31T00:31:23 < ohsix> https://twitter.com/poorlycatdraw/status/924696744713228288
2017-10-31T00:59:12 < invzim> allpcb any good?
2017-10-31T01:03:24 < karlp> Steffanx: snapeda does parts generation a lot?
2017-10-31T01:16:30 < vampi-the-frog> hey is there double buffering DMA on F1?
2017-10-31T01:16:41 < vampi-the-frog> and if not, is half transfer equivalent?
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2017-10-31T01:59:22 < invzim> 41.86 USD for 4 layer SHIPPED with dhl from allpcb
2017-10-31T01:59:27 < invzim> good times :)
2017-10-31T02:07:04 < upgrdman> pcb size?
2017-10-31T02:07:13 < invzim> 100x79.8mm
2017-10-31T02:07:23 < upgrdman> not bad
2017-10-31T02:07:28 < invzim> so it's the usual 10x10cm thing everyone is doing
2017-10-31T02:07:33 < upgrdman> lemme know what their turn around time is
2017-10-31T02:07:46 < invzim> Build Time:3 Days
2017-10-31T02:07:49 < invzim> they claim
2017-10-31T02:07:54 < upgrdman> sure but reality :)
2017-10-31T02:08:20 < upgrdman> fyi, dirtypcbs with dhl shipping takes 9-10 days from placing order until in my hand in california.
2017-10-31T02:08:47 < invzim> had good experience with pcbway and turnaround time
2017-10-31T02:09:13 < invzim> mine is still 'auditing' now - if I have it sometime next week I'm happy
2017-10-31T02:11:01 < invzim> I'll report back with some microscope pictures when I get them
2017-10-31T02:11:16 < upgrdman> nice. plz ping me when you do that.
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2017-10-31T02:41:36 < Laurenceb_> hmm I'm confused
2017-10-31T02:42:03 < Laurenceb_>  -O3 seems to be giving me a uint8_t array stride of 2
2017-10-31T02:44:21 < Ultrasauce> just use O2
2017-10-31T02:44:28 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/HubertD/candleLight_fw/blob/master/Middlewares/ST/STM32_USB_Device_Library/Core/Src/usbd_ctlreq.c
2017-10-31T02:44:30 < Laurenceb_> heh
2017-10-31T02:44:31 < Ultrasauce> O3 requires explicitly jerking off the compiler to actually achieve speedups
2017-10-31T02:44:44 < Laurenceb_> USBD_GetString goes a bit mad
2017-10-31T02:44:59 < Laurenceb_> line 744 and 745 have wrong stride
2017-10-31T02:45:26 < Laurenceb_> I think it expects uint8_t arrays to be half word aligned
2017-10-31T02:49:23 < Laurenceb_> I'm kind of confused why something so basic would be broken by -O3 though
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2017-10-31T02:53:31 < Laurenceb_> we had civilizations and compiling code until the Neanderthal came out of there caves and stole all are technologies
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2017-10-31T03:06:51 < branjb> ok, got the torque issue worked out.  still not able to balance though; it falls over before the motors are able to rebalance it.  sounds like low proportional, but kp is really high and as soon as it falls over it the motors are full throttle
2017-10-31T03:06:59 < branjb> seems almost like latency in the system
2017-10-31T03:15:27 < ohsix> balls
2017-10-31T03:15:44 < ohsix> are you graphing the output vs. setpoint
2017-10-31T03:15:49 < branjb> yeah
2017-10-31T03:16:12 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/R7yFF
2017-10-31T03:16:30 < branjb> most of that is me holding it kinda so it doesn't fall over
2017-10-31T03:16:54 < branjb> only kp, integral and derivative are off at the moment
2017-10-31T03:23:17 < dongs> branjb: are you receiving advice from the channel clown
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2017-10-31T03:25:06 < branjb> idk, i'm receiving advice anywhere because i can't do what a million memeduino projects have done before me
2017-10-31T03:25:41 < dongs> haha
2017-10-31T03:28:12 < aandrew> https://imgur.com/ZNN8lca <- #stm32 identified
2017-10-31T03:28:39 < dongs> not even close
2017-10-31T03:28:51 < ohsix> current angle still looks too noisy
2017-10-31T03:29:17 < ohsix> it's also oscillating
2017-10-31T03:29:34 < ohsix> forget which term gain being too high means oscillation, probably the first
2017-10-31T03:29:53 < branjb> i think i figured out where i fucked up
2017-10-31T03:29:54 < branjb> standby
2017-10-31T03:29:56 < ohsix> there are a bunch of pid tuning methods and a few tutorials that lead you through adjusting each term
2017-10-31T03:30:13 < aandrew> high P or high D can lead to oscillation
2017-10-31T03:30:57 < branjb> so yeah, let me see what happens but I was using the wrong variable for my loop timer
2017-10-31T03:31:06 < branjb> and my PID was executing each iteration instead of @ 200 hz
2017-10-31T03:31:08 < branjb> lmao
2017-10-31T03:32:05 < ohsix> nice
2017-10-31T03:32:26 < ohsix> that qualifies you for jobs in aerospace
2017-10-31T03:33:03 < aandrew> it's like that scene from the first iron man where he's trying out the leg jets and his initial test is 10% which slams him into the wall
2017-10-31T03:36:50 < ohsix> fudge
2017-10-31T03:37:06 < ohsix> i need dimensions from an stl and i just want a slice of it
2017-10-31T03:37:44 < ohsix> slic3r can export svg, and truncate the model on a slice, but the dimensions in the svg have no relation to the stl
2017-10-31T03:39:03 < ohsix> in solidworks i think it is smart enough to know about interior cutouts and shit as shapes so it could do it in a few seconds :o
2017-10-31T03:49:01 < ohsix> http://shapeforge.loria.fr/icesl/ noice
2017-10-31T03:49:16 < ohsix> does some stuff meshmixer was doing for me, and is being developed all academic like
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2017-10-31T03:54:30 < Laurenceb_> grr why does line 744 break
2017-10-31T03:54:31 < Laurenceb_> https://github.com/HubertD/candleLight_fw/blob/master/Middlewares/ST/STM32_USB_Device_Library/Core/Src/usbd_ctlreq.c
2017-10-31T03:54:59 < Laurenceb_> so confusing, -O3 causes unicode to be missing half the desc bytes
2017-10-31T03:55:02 < ohsix> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/3D_to_2D_Projection nice
2017-10-31T03:55:17 < ohsix> ru a hubert
2017-10-31T03:56:36 < Laurenceb_> OpenSCAT
2017-10-31T03:57:25 < ohsix> *2+2? class
2017-10-31T03:58:01 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/sZWTGPo.gifv
2017-10-31T03:58:03 < upgrdman> :)
2017-10-31T03:58:05 < ohsix> that code doesn't do what it says it does
2017-10-31T03:59:51 < Laurenceb_> unicode[0] is actually set correctly
2017-10-31T04:00:01 < Laurenceb_> then I get desc[1] in unicode[4]
2017-10-31T04:00:29 < Laurenceb_> desc[3] in unicode [8], desc[5] in unicode [12] etc
2017-10-31T04:01:43 < Laurenceb_> half the string is missing
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2017-10-31T04:03:05 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/jEMGHUo.jpg
2017-10-31T04:07:00 < dongs> upgrdman: seems not too efficient you have to press two things
2017-10-31T04:07:33 < aandrew> not if you add an stm32
2017-10-31T04:07:46 < upgrdman> yes. needs mcu.
2017-10-31T04:08:03 < aandrew> if you put the MCU on the match you could get your quantities up and reduce costs
2017-10-31T04:15:37 < ohsix> Laurenceb_: stuff it into gcc.godbolt.org
2017-10-31T04:17:13 < Laurenceb_> fails in my browser lol
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2017-10-31T04:27:38 < Laurenceb_> hmm looks loop unrolling related to me
2017-10-31T04:27:46 < Laurenceb_> going from what -O3 actually does
2017-10-31T04:31:52 < tpw_rules> -funrool-loops
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2017-10-31T04:35:15 < dongs> -omg-optimized
2017-10-31T04:36:09 < Laurenceb_> looks like its broken tbh
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2017-10-31T04:58:09 < dongs> hmm
2017-10-31T05:04:00 < dongs> why teh fuck would writing to GPIO->ODR not work
2017-10-31T05:06:20 < upgrdman> clock, pin masking, pin direction ?
2017-10-31T05:06:30 < upgrdman> also open drain or pp
2017-10-31T05:06:31 < dongs> no, the write fails
2017-10-31T05:06:35 < upgrdman> o
2017-10-31T05:06:40 < dongs> like, i write stuff and read back and its same as before write
2017-10-31T05:06:46 < dongs> and its not a writeonly register
2017-10-31T05:06:48 < dongs> (like bsrr
2017-10-31T05:07:02 < upgrdman> wouldnt that indicate the pin isnt config as an output?
2017-10-31T05:07:07 < dongs> no
2017-10-31T05:07:11 < dongs> you can write wahtever you want into it normally
2017-10-31T05:07:18 < dongs> infact you could, to setup state BEFORE you init the pin
2017-10-31T05:08:01 < upgrdman> k
2017-10-31T05:10:18 < dongs> something is fukd
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2017-10-31T06:44:44 < branjb> lol
2017-10-31T06:45:05 < branjb> my loop rate was 20 hz instead of 200
2017-10-31T06:52:28 < dongs> count them bogomips
2017-10-31T06:54:01 < branjb> I had one too many 0's
2017-10-31T06:54:01 < branjb> rip
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2017-10-31T07:13:16 < dongs> did koreasat5 blow up
2017-10-31T07:15:01 < Thorn> http://www.sfu.ca/chaos/papers/2005/rmp_reprint05.pdf
2017-10-31T07:15:05 < englishman> yes but they censored it
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2017-10-31T07:15:59 < dongs> gas them
2017-10-31T07:16:08 < branjb> eat them
2017-10-31T07:16:13 < dongs> yes
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2017-10-31T07:17:36 < dongs> feeding them will just make the problem worse
2017-10-31T07:17:44 < dongs> because they wont leave
2017-10-31T07:18:38 < branjb> outdoor cats are great for keeping rodent population in check
2017-10-31T07:18:51 < branjb> mouse
2017-10-31T07:19:00 < branjb> R2COM don't worry coyotes will get them soon enough
2017-10-31T07:19:50 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELI2J-CpZg&feature=youtu.be&t=37m10s
2017-10-31T07:20:29 < dongs> englishman: olds
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2017-10-31T09:21:40 < dongs> hmm gay
2017-10-31T09:21:56 < dongs> there's no way to mask ODR for only certain bits is there
2017-10-31T09:22:54 < dongs> i could use bsrr but the whole point is I wanna do something like port->odr = index << shift to set bits say 4..8 or somethign
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2017-10-31T09:23:07 < dongs> i dont wanna do extra shit to turn on/off bits
2017-10-31T09:23:50 < dongs> dont wanna enable buttbanding for this stuff either seems like more effort than its worth
2017-10-31T09:25:12 < dongs> should i just shut up and write value to BS and ~value to BR?
2017-10-31T09:33:49 < ohsix> sup
2017-10-31T09:33:57 < ohsix> what to do with thermal camera, already done lots
2017-10-31T09:34:35 < ohsix> also inspected two buildings already
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2017-10-31T09:46:17 < ohsix> guh i need a cadboner that has the feature detection fusion360/solidworks has for dumb models
2017-10-31T09:46:32 < ohsix> it's only 28 holes but i don't want to do it ever again
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2017-10-31T10:00:48 < qyx> my latest ghetto-soldered board https://i.imgur.com/4ApA3Dd.jpg
2017-10-31T10:01:00 < qyx> uh, incomplete though
2017-10-31T10:02:06 < qyx> there is a pro solder bridge patch in the middle
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2017-10-31T10:06:57 < ohsix> nice
2017-10-31T10:07:06 < ohsix> ghetto how, hand held heat gun?
2017-10-31T10:07:25 < qyx> yes
2017-10-31T10:07:25 < Thorn> y so qfn
2017-10-31T10:07:48 < ohsix> nice
2017-10-31T10:07:49 < qyx> I like qfns because no solder bridges between the pads
2017-10-31T10:08:11 < ohsix> my paste went poo, but i liked using syringe and hot air, looked nice
2017-10-31T10:08:55 < qyx> this is not done with a paste
2017-10-31T10:09:03 < qyx> I usually tin the pads, apply flux and then hotair
2017-10-31T10:09:24 < Thorn> are there 3 switch mode converters?
2017-10-31T10:09:43 < qyx> tps54061 60Vin to 5V
2017-10-31T10:09:58 < qyx> power or-ing controller from usb and 5V
2017-10-31T10:10:07 < qyx> and then 5V->2.8V lov Iq
2017-10-31T10:10:09 < qyx> *low
2017-10-31T10:10:32 < qyx> also there is an unpopulated  5V->3.8V for the modem
2017-10-31T10:13:14 < qyx> which is weird as many other gprs modems, it requires 3.3V-4.6V Vbat supply, but it has 2V8 logic levels
2017-10-31T10:17:12 < ohsix> trying random button combos on fluke
2017-10-31T10:17:28 < ohsix> f2 on power on brings up language menu, it doesn't power on with f3; nothing else does anything
2017-10-31T10:17:41 < ohsix> and nobody has these, so no framerate hax
2017-10-31T10:18:23 < ohsix> hah, was idling wondering if a movie had been shot with thermal cameras earlier, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ora_(film) and it's randomly linked on a thin gi'm reading, thanks wikipedia
2017-10-31T10:20:34 < ohsix> hm pcb says ti125 on it, that one when it's on the case is 30hz
2017-10-31T10:21:58 < ohsix> was looking at some air currents earlier that would have been boss af at 60hz
2017-10-31T10:45:55 < ohsix> anyone seen American Vandal?
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2017-10-31T11:09:51 < dongs> qux     qyx is that LTE
2017-10-31T11:10:08 < qyx> no, lte is EC20/21
2017-10-31T11:10:18 < qyx> tis is older M66
2017-10-31T11:10:33 < dongs> what was the 433 part?
2017-10-31T11:10:40 < dongs> just random craprf thing?
2017-10-31T11:11:01 < qyx> ax5243
2017-10-31T11:11:24 < dongs> thats not onsemi part is it
2017-10-31T11:11:26 < dongs> who'd they buy it from
2017-10-31T11:11:29 < dongs> ax = axiom?
2017-10-31T11:12:56 < qyx> axtech or waht
2017-10-31T11:12:58 < qyx> now onsemi
2017-10-31T11:13:00 < dongs>     GPIOC->BSRRL = index << 6;
2017-10-31T11:13:00 < dongs>     GPIOC->BSRRH = (~index & 0x7) << 6;
2017-10-31T11:13:04 < dongs> anything faster than this?
2017-10-31T11:13:10 < dongs> like in one operation or something
2017-10-31T11:23:55 < PaulFertser> GPIOC->BSRR = ((~index & 0x7) << 6) << 16) | (index << 6); ?
2017-10-31T11:24:11 < dongs> F4 stdperiph doesnt expose full register
2017-10-31T11:24:25 < dongs> or rather cmsis
2017-10-31T11:24:30 < dongs>   __IO uint16_t BSRRL;    /*!< GPIO port bit set/reset low register,  Address offset: 0x18      */
2017-10-31T11:24:33 < dongs>   __IO uint16_t BSRRH;    /*!< GPIO port bit set/reset high register, Address offset: 0x1A      */
2017-10-31T11:24:36 < dongs> its there as halves
2017-10-31T11:24:55 < PaulFertser> I wonder if it doesn't support 32-bit access. But it would be really strange if it didn't.
2017-10-31T11:25:07 < dongs> SFR in keil shows it as 32bit wide
2017-10-31T11:25:18 < dongs> so this is a cmsis 'decision' to split it
2017-10-31T11:33:58 < dongs> i guess icould do some dumb shit like *((&GPIOC)+0x18) = whatever but fuckit
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2017-10-31T11:50:30 < karlp> qyx: what's the part for that 10pin-minus1 debug connector you'r using?
2017-10-31T11:50:42 < karlp> I don't remember that in our collection on zypsnips at all
2017-10-31T11:51:50 < karlp> those 12 pin UXB connectors are cute too, nice keying
2017-10-31T12:00:11 < renn0xtk9> Are startup files valid "once for all" for a given mcu, or do I have to edit them from project to project?
2017-10-31T12:00:36 < dongs> of course they change
2017-10-31T12:00:39 < dongs> interrupt vectors are different
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2017-10-31T12:00:53 < dongs> you need whichever one matches your shit
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2017-10-31T12:03:51 < renn0xtk9> dongs it is the g_pfnVectors: section?
2017-10-31T12:04:04 < dongs> i have no idea, i use cmsis / keil startup stuff
2017-10-31T12:04:05 < dongs> not GNU
2017-10-31T12:04:35 < dongs> stdperiph or cube has startups for all teh families.
2017-10-31T12:04:44 < renn0xtk9> is there a way to make a "general" startup, ?
2017-10-31T12:05:17 < renn0xtk9> that is what I see from e.g. ./Libraries/CMSIS/Device/ST/STM32F10x/Source/Templates/gcc/startup_stm32f10x_md.s
2017-10-31T12:05:47 < renn0xtk9> < I am wondering if I can use this startup file for all porject based on stm32f10x_md
2017-10-31T12:06:02 < renn0xtk9> or if even then I will have to hand edit some stuff
2017-10-31T12:06:11 < dongs> see the _md part?
2017-10-31T12:06:16 < dongs> thats for all medium density parts.
2017-10-31T12:06:23 < dongs> there's _hd and something else iirc.
2017-10-31T12:06:25 < dongs> thats the diferences.
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2017-10-31T12:06:49 < renn0xtk9> dongs, yes this are different mcus among the f10x family right?
2017-10-31T12:06:55 < dongs> right.
2017-10-31T12:07:18 < renn0xtk9> but if I am sure I am using md, then i can take this startup and don't have to tuch anything else right?
2017-10-31T12:07:19 < dongs> datasheet covers the difference.
2017-10-31T12:07:23 < dongs> yeah.
2017-10-31T12:07:28 < renn0xtk9> great
2017-10-31T12:07:42 < renn0xtk9> I am doing a Makefile toolchain
2017-10-31T12:07:49 < dongs> sorry to hear that
2017-10-31T12:08:24 < renn0xtk9> all I need is the user enter 3-4 variable then the toolchain will pick up the right stuff
2017-10-31T12:08:58 < renn0xtk9> I am just wondering why the starup file provided by Ac6 (this openstm32 or eclipse based stuff) are not exactly the same as the one of ST
2017-10-31T12:08:59 < dongs> sounds boring, I double click on keil project and press F7 and its built
2017-10-31T12:09:25 < dongs> because dicklipse dudes think they wanna be unique
2017-10-31T12:09:36 < dongs> AC6 has weird starupts and weird linker shits
2017-10-31T12:09:43 < dongs> with bullshit custom named sections and crap
2017-10-31T12:09:47 < dongs> and none of it is documented
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2017-10-31T12:10:10 < renn0xtk9> okay so rather do everything on my own right?
2017-10-31T12:10:32 < dongs> just use teh cmsis sample startup
2017-10-31T12:10:39 < dongs> ignore ac6 crap.
2017-10-31T12:10:42 < dongs> and cmsis link.
2017-10-31T12:10:48 < bababooie> Why is it bad to "throw ints and chars around"?
2017-10-31T12:10:58 < renn0xtk9> CMSIS =  the stuff from the ST website ?
2017-10-31T12:11:15 < dongs> cmsis = the stuff in hal/cube/stdperiph templates/examples
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2017-10-31T12:11:49 < renn0xtk9> but I have heard from lot of people that HAL is not reliable
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2017-10-31T12:13:44 < karlp> renn0xtk9: yes, for most cases, the startup code is actually the same, you just have to sepðarte the vectors from the startup code.
2017-10-31T12:14:22 < karlp> renn0xtk9: reset_handler() here is the startup code: https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/blob/master/lib/cm3/vector.c
2017-10-31T12:14:32 < karlp> (ntoe they don't need to be asm)
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2017-10-31T12:15:40 < karlp> that startup file is used for m0, m3, m4 and even an a series part in bare metal mode.
2017-10-31T12:15:43 < djos>  
2017-10-31T12:15:48 < karlp>   
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2017-10-31T12:19:51 < karlp> heh, " that there may have been a population selection toward increased tolerance of winter darkness."
2017-10-31T12:21:16 < karlp> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8250679
2017-10-31T12:21:21 < dongs> wow at that vector.c
2017-10-31T12:21:29 < dongs> lets making nonportable code
2017-10-31T12:24:50 < karlp> you want me to put the __attribute__ behind some magical name that can be redefined for IAR?
2017-10-31T12:24:53 < karlp> why bother?
2017-10-31T12:25:28 < dongs> no, the whole shit is a fucing mess
2017-10-31T12:25:33 < karlp> what in particular?
2017-10-31T12:25:34 < dongs> __init-arraY_start shit is all GNU crap
2017-10-31T12:25:46 < dongs> this is handled by libc on proper compilers
2017-10-31T12:25:58 < dongs> why the fuck woudl your code ever care about C++ startups or zeroing variables
2017-10-31T12:26:09 < karlp> because you might actually use c++?
2017-10-31T12:26:11 < dongs> thats what happens when your reset vector calls libc __main
2017-10-31T12:26:12 < dongs> or whatever
2017-10-31T12:26:17 < karlp> and because bss is meant to be zeroed
2017-10-31T12:26:22 < dongs> no, i mean, it happens by the fucking compiler
2017-10-31T12:26:23 < dongs> properly
2017-10-31T12:26:30 < dongs> not a hack in userspace/your own code
2017-10-31T12:26:35 < karlp> what do you think your startup.s file is doing?
2017-10-31T12:26:39 < dongs> not that.
2017-10-31T12:26:45 < dongs> i just told you what my startup.s is doing.
2017-10-31T12:26:46 < karlp> sure. keep believeing that.
2017-10-31T12:26:56 < dongs>                  LDR     R0, =SystemInit
2017-10-31T12:26:56 < dongs>                  BLX     R0
2017-10-31T12:26:56 < dongs>                  LDR     R0, =__main
2017-10-31T12:26:56 < dongs>                  BX      R0
2017-10-31T12:27:05 < dongs> __main = clears bss, calls C++ consstructors, etc
2017-10-31T12:27:10 < dongs> compiler/libc shit
2017-10-31T12:27:16 < dongs> i dont need to care or worry about it.
2017-10-31T12:27:36 < dongs> it is insane to handle that crap in my own code.
2017-10-31T12:27:48 < dongs> creates unnecesasrty dependencies on section names and shit
2017-10-31T12:28:02 < karlp> right, as if __main doesn't have dependencies
2017-10-31T12:28:08 < karlp> no-one's editing that vector.c I linked,
2017-10-31T12:28:18 < karlp> it's one off for all
2017-10-31T12:28:28 < dongs> thats not my point
2017-10-31T12:28:30 < karlp> whether you'd rather it was called __main or not doesn't change that it's getting done.
2017-10-31T12:29:27 < dongs> no
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2017-10-31T13:08:10 < dongs> 0x0246F536-0x0246CAEA
2017-10-31T13:10:00 < dongs> 0x0246F38C-0x0246CAC5
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2017-10-31T13:22:15 < englishman> time to get audited
2017-10-31T13:23:38 < englishman> http://www.solarroadways.com/
2017-10-31T13:23:42 < dongs> 0x0246F343-0x0246CAB9
2017-10-31T13:24:54 < dongs> 0x0246E0BF-0x0246C980
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2017-10-31T13:35:30 < qyx> karlp: I am using an amphenol/fci header, but I need to remove the pin :S
2017-10-31T13:35:43 < qyx> and it is not shrouded
2017-10-31T13:35:55 < qyx> do we have a better alternative in the zypsnips?
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2017-10-31T13:41:12 < qyx> I see
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2017-10-31T13:42:59 < qyx> also, those uxb are Harting Har-Flex
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2017-10-31T13:43:06 < qyx> expensive like drugs
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2017-10-31T13:51:27 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/Z4GWKbl.jpg why is this funny
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2017-10-31T13:58:14 < englishman> circlejerking
2017-10-31T14:00:06 < dongs> stonertronics say the guy on the right is musk
2017-10-31T14:00:42 < dongs> i got WS2812 randomly blinking in -O3
2017-10-31T14:00:46 < dongs> i'm turning into laurence/b/
2017-10-31T14:01:07 < qyx> I wouldn not say that publicly
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2017-10-31T14:03:07 < dongs> how long should i wait after slecting input on a 3:8 multiplexer
2017-10-31T14:03:16 < dongs> whats the shit in datasheet called
2017-10-31T14:03:27 < dongs> settle time or somshit
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2017-10-31T14:22:29 < Laurenceb> sup trolls
2017-10-31T14:22:34 < Laurenceb>  -O3 epin rage tiem
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2017-10-31T14:30:41 < Laurenceb> hmf
2017-10-31T14:30:57 < Laurenceb> every second iteration of USBD_GetString is never running
2017-10-31T14:30:58 < Laurenceb> rage
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2017-10-31T14:56:43 < Laurenceb> oh shit its not that code
2017-10-31T14:56:57 < Laurenceb> its some optimisation fail hiding in the PCD codez
2017-10-31T15:01:10 < kikes> what was the name of those sleeves for pogo sticks?
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2017-10-31T15:03:07 < Laurenceb> PCD_WritePMA is failing
2017-10-31T15:04:07 < Laurenceb> odd halfwords are not copied
2017-10-31T15:04:08 < karlp> why are you trying -O3 anyway?
2017-10-31T15:04:19 < Laurenceb> cuz this stuff is too slow on F0
2017-10-31T15:04:27 < karlp> why are you using f0?
2017-10-31T15:04:33 < Laurenceb> dunno if it will actually speed it up
2017-10-31T15:04:42 < Laurenceb> I need usb on <11mm diameter device
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2017-10-31T15:05:24 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/S9idmGAA
2017-10-31T15:06:09 < Laurenceb> blerg I'm not going to start rewriting HAL functions
2017-10-31T15:06:21 < Laurenceb> tiem to try -O2 and hope for the best
2017-10-31T15:06:37 < karlp> still not sure how that implies f0, but whatever, blakster it up
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2017-10-31T15:09:05 < Laurenceb> well it doesnt but using F0 makes the hardware easier
2017-10-31T15:09:21 < Laurenceb> I can't actually see whats wrong with that HAL code
2017-10-31T15:10:28 < karlp> how is anyone else meant to know, there's no comments, no idea what the variables mean, or what you're trying to do.
2017-10-31T15:10:45 < Laurenceb> not my code :P
2017-10-31T15:10:52 < Laurenceb> blame ST
2017-10-31T15:11:17 < Laurenceb> its PCD_WritePMA
2017-10-31T15:11:42 < Laurenceb> looks like its supposed to copy bytes to PMA
2017-10-31T15:13:33 < Laurenceb> only half of them never get there
2017-10-31T15:18:48 < renn0xtk9> does anyone has working example of virtual com with standard peripheral?
2017-10-31T15:19:43 < qyx> lol blaxter it up
2017-10-31T15:20:59 < qyx> lolz
2017-10-31T15:21:03 < renn0xtk9> blaxter?
2017-10-31T15:21:13 < qyx> why does my f042g6 has a F050G6 on it
2017-10-31T15:21:25  * qyx confused
2017-10-31T15:21:43 < karlp> did you outsource assembly tolaurence?
2017-10-31T15:22:02 < qyx> I just bought it from franell
2017-10-31T15:22:07 < dongs> what the fuck that spacing
2017-10-31T15:22:34 < Laurenceb> ST spacingz
2017-10-31T15:22:41 < dongs> like fuckit is
2017-10-31T15:22:47 < dongs> there's no fucking way thats ST code
2017-10-31T15:23:25 < Laurenceb> check for urself
2017-10-31T15:23:59 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/NordicPlayground/mbed/blob/master/libraries/mbed/targets/cmsis/TARGET_STM/TARGET_NUCLEO_F334R8/stm32f3xx_hal_pcd_ex.c
2017-10-31T15:24:10 < Laurenceb> hmm this version has fewer brackets
2017-10-31T15:24:22 < Laurenceb> maybe they screwed it up
2017-10-31T15:28:17 < renn0xtk9> has anyone ever used st's example for virtual comport and if yes knows what are the entry points ?
2017-10-31T15:29:10 < Laurenceb> I've seen lots of reports of it failing on st forumz
2017-10-31T15:29:22 < Laurenceb> chibios virtual comport works for me
2017-10-31T15:29:36 < Laurenceb> ST HAL is cancer
2017-10-31T15:29:42 < dongs> renn0xtk9: yes, and it worked wonderfully.
2017-10-31T15:29:50 < dongs> also ST DFU example
2017-10-31T15:29:51 < dongs> same thing
2017-10-31T15:29:53 < dongs> works great.
2017-10-31T15:30:20 < dongs> hm i think i used their MSC stuff too
2017-10-31T15:32:54 < renn0xtk9> dongs I am confused on which function to use to trigger sending data through VCP and handling reception since they dont' provide usage example
2017-10-31T15:33:20 < renn0xtk9> for reception should I just use the USART IRQ like at the bottom of this page ? http://pandafruits.com/stm32_primer/stm32_primer_uart.php
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2017-10-31T15:37:10 < dongs> renn0xtk9: what the shit are you actually triyng to do? my usecase was simply providing serial console over vcp
2017-10-31T15:37:16 < dongs> as in, connecting to stuff running on stm
2017-10-31T15:37:20 < dongs> i wasn't piping usb to uart
2017-10-31T15:39:08 < englishman> isnt there a demo program that does exactly that? like a usb-uart combridge
2017-10-31T15:39:21 < dongs> of course there is, probably in usb lib samples
2017-10-31T15:39:21 < englishman> main() is like 10 lines max
2017-10-31T15:39:27 < dongs> or else why teh fuck would the VCP sample even exist
2017-10-31T15:39:51 < renn0xtk9> ST provide "examples" in /STM32_USB-FS-Device_Lib_V4.1.0/Projects/Virtual_COM_Port
2017-10-31T15:40:13 < dongs> i find it rude that you enclose "eaxmples" in quotes
2017-10-31T15:40:26 < renn0xtk9> with nothing in the main
2017-10-31T15:40:56 < dongs> jesus christ. i just wasted 10 s econds to lookup the example
2017-10-31T15:41:01 < dongs> and it literally does what englishman said
2017-10-31T15:41:04 < dongs> pipes uart to usb
2017-10-31T15:41:07 < dongs> complete example
2017-10-31T15:41:10 < dongs> motherfucker what are you doing wasting time
2017-10-31T15:41:16 < renn0xtk9> which one example ?
2017-10-31T15:41:18 < renn0xtk9> where is it?
2017-10-31T15:41:23 < renn0xtk9> the one I wrote ?
2017-10-31T15:41:24 < dongs> STM32_USB-FS-Device_Lib_V4.0.0\Projects\Virtual_COM_Port\src
2017-10-31T15:41:33 < renn0xtk9> yes now open the main.c
2017-10-31T15:41:35 < dongs> i even have old fucking version!
2017-10-31T15:41:46 < dongs> yes
2017-10-31T15:41:48 < dongs> what do you expect in main?
2017-10-31T15:41:56 < dongs> it does all the work in either uart or USB IRQ
2017-10-31T15:42:07 < dongs> why teh fuck would you while(1) something that can work hands-off by hardware?
2017-10-31T15:42:16 < renn0xtk9> you do not understand
2017-10-31T15:42:22 < dongs> of course I do
2017-10-31T15:42:25 < dongs> the example works
2017-10-31T15:42:29 < dongs> and forwards usb to uart
2017-10-31T15:42:29 < renn0xtk9> they provide a FRAMEWORK not example
2017-10-31T15:42:32 < dongs> ?!
2017-10-31T15:42:36 < dongs> ITS A COMPLETE EXAMPLE THAT WORKS
2017-10-31T15:42:45 < renn0xtk9> nowhere they are actually sending data
2017-10-31T15:42:48 < dongs> i can compile it and run it on some random F1 board wiht USB and I will have VCP and noise on uart
2017-10-31T15:42:52 < dongs> OF COURSE THEY ARE
2017-10-31T15:43:03 < renn0xtk9> so then tellme which file and which line they send data
2017-10-31T15:43:18 < qyx> much rage
2017-10-31T15:43:23 < karlp> renn0xtk9: how many other files are in that directory?
2017-10-31T15:43:40 < karlp> (hint, it's not many, and one of them is the common name for interrupt handlers in st demos
2017-10-31T15:44:00 < karlp> or should I say... ___ InTerrupts
2017-10-31T15:44:09 < dongs> hw_config handles uart rx/tx and _it handles firing shit from that code
2017-10-31T15:44:24 < dongs> fucking delete lunix and install windows, i found this info in less than 10 seconds
2017-10-31T15:44:31 < dongs> the console is giving you cancer
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2017-10-31T15:44:59 < renn0xtk9> void USB_To_USART_Send_Data(uint8_t* data_buffer, uint8_t Nb_bytes); ?
2017-10-31T15:45:26 < dongs> thats one of them
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2017-10-31T15:46:15 < dongs> there's also USART_To_USB_Send_Data!
2017-10-31T15:46:23 < dongs> imagine that, you have both directions covered
2017-10-31T15:46:42 < englishman> wow i guess you can do "development" on windows
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2017-10-31T15:47:40 < karlp> I hear it is entirely possible, yes :) not sure it can magically fix develop_er_s though.
2017-10-31T15:48:00 < qyx> englishman: I bought that si1133
2017-10-31T15:48:05 < qyx> going to try
2017-10-31T15:48:10 < englishman> nice
2017-10-31T15:48:11 < renn0xtk9> okay and they call it like that
2017-10-31T15:48:12 < renn0xtk9> USB_To_USART_Send_Data(USB_Rx_Buffer, USB_Rx_Cnt);
2017-10-31T15:48:27 < englishman> mine is doing gr8 with only slight modification to the sample libs
2017-10-31T15:48:29 < renn0xtk9> how to you load the USB_RxBuffer in the first pace?
2017-10-31T15:48:46 < qyx> wat
2017-10-31T15:48:49 < dongs> ..
2017-10-31T15:49:03 < englishman> stock linear fit had some problems around very dark values
2017-10-31T15:49:05 < dongs> there's this thing called ~interrupts~
2017-10-31T15:49:28 < renn0xtk9> EP3_OUT_Callback ?
2017-10-31T15:49:58 < renn0xtk9> if you would make one sentence clear instead of insulting ;)
2017-10-31T15:50:29 < dongs> i would suggest purchasing keil
2017-10-31T15:50:35 < dongs> its usb library is much easier to use
2017-10-31T15:50:51 < renn0xtk9> my god ... why is the link with keil
2017-10-31T15:51:02 < dongs> shit works
2017-10-31T15:51:02 < renn0xtk9> we art talking entry point of their framework
2017-10-31T15:51:10 < renn0xtk9> but you told me this also ?
2017-10-31T15:51:44 < renn0xtk9> USB_To_USART_Send_Data <  is it meant to send direclty bytes to the computer?
2017-10-31T15:52:14 < renn0xtk9> dongs ?
2017-10-31T15:52:17 < dongs> have you tried reading the contents of that function?
2017-10-31T15:53:04 < dongs> and yes, i opened that file for the last time to read it for you
2017-10-31T15:53:11 < dongs> it does a blocking usart write for the entire buffer.
2017-10-31T15:53:19 < dongs> now the file's closed and im back to coding my own shit
2017-10-31T15:53:43 < renn0xtk9> so which function do yo call when you want to send Data?
2017-10-31T15:54:11 < dongs> you stick it into rx buffer and adjust its tail/head or whatever
2017-10-31T15:54:16 < dongs> you get it?
2017-10-31T15:54:22 < dongs> "RX" from usart, "TX" to USB
2017-10-31T15:54:32 < dongs> when you "RX" from USB, you "TX" it to USART
2017-10-31T15:54:44 < dongs> its a difficult concept to grasp, I know
2017-10-31T15:55:10 < Laurenceb> hmm clive1 code failz
2017-10-31T15:55:19 < dongs> did he bless you with a response?
2017-10-31T15:55:22 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/thread/26824
2017-10-31T15:55:34 < renn0xtk9> so why they did not write a function where you just past those as arguments?
2017-10-31T15:55:35 < Laurenceb> the "More generically " codez
2017-10-31T15:56:10 < dongs> laurence/b/ what are you doing
2017-10-31T15:56:20 < dongs> i've written similar shit to jump to BL on F1
2017-10-31T15:56:21 < dongs> and it worked
2017-10-31T15:56:24 < Laurenceb> writing DFU bloatloader
2017-10-31T15:56:52 < dongs> are you setting magic stuff and catching it after reset and jumping to reboot_loader?
2017-10-31T15:56:55 < dongs> because thats how you do it
2017-10-31T15:58:34 < Laurenceb> yeah the jump is ok
2017-10-31T15:58:48 < Laurenceb> the reboot_loader code puts me in mail code
2017-10-31T15:58:51 < Laurenceb> *main
2017-10-31T15:59:00 < dongs> what
2017-10-31T15:59:22 < Laurenceb> r0             0x1fffcb45	
2017-10-31T15:59:25 < Laurenceb> hmf wtf
2017-10-31T16:00:12 < englishman> qyx i think il start innovating on that project again soon
2017-10-31T16:00:49 < englishman> dongs, is it weird that chinababe didnt have regular normal 0.1u caps in 0603
2017-10-31T16:01:19 < dongs> dont ask for 50V versions
2017-10-31T16:01:30 < englishman> i asked for 25v and 50v
2017-10-31T16:01:32 < dongs> 16V is way more comon
2017-10-31T16:01:32 < dongs> yeah
2017-10-31T16:01:37 < dongs> 25V doesnt exist probly
2017-10-31T16:01:40 < renn0xtk9> * Amount of data from USART_Rx_Buffer that have already been sent to the USB.
2017-10-31T16:01:41 < dongs> 50V i bought them all
2017-10-31T16:01:53 < englishman> weird
2017-10-31T16:02:01 < englishman> why 0603
2017-10-31T16:02:37 < dongs> you mean 1608 right
2017-10-31T16:03:46 < qyx> englishman: I m innovting this https://imgur.com/a/aUwyz
2017-10-31T16:04:10 < englishman> wat
2017-10-31T16:04:12 < englishman> 1608?
2017-10-31T16:04:19 < englishman> is that metric
2017-10-31T16:04:41 < qyx> yes
2017-10-31T16:04:48 < karlp> 0603 imperial = 1608 metric
2017-10-31T16:04:49 < dongs> i bought some "0603" caps before
2017-10-31T16:04:55 < dongs> i coudlnt see the fucking things
2017-10-31T16:04:58 < qyx> lol
2017-10-31T16:04:59 < karlp> qyx: cool, what's that neta mesh tube thingy?
2017-10-31T16:05:08 < englishman> who the fuck uses metric
2017-10-31T16:05:28 < karlp> people making things smaller than 0201 imperial :)
2017-10-31T16:05:41 < englishman> certainly not anyone who would be sourcing from china resellers
2017-10-31T16:05:48  * karlp shrugs
2017-10-31T16:05:48 < qyx> karlp: it will be hidden in a meteo solar shield, the mesh tube is a compartment for sensors
2017-10-31T16:06:25 < englishman> eh digikey has good prices on those anyway
2017-10-31T16:06:54 < dongs> qyx what is that
2017-10-31T16:07:02 < dongs> some modbugs innovation?
2017-10-31T16:07:19 < qyx> can actually
2017-10-31T16:07:29 < karlp> what's the go with these new fancy shields? how do you get standard readings without having a stevenson box?
2017-10-31T16:08:35 < englishman> dong is there a better alternative to partkeepr yet
2017-10-31T16:08:36 < qyx> don't know, nobody is using those huge boxes now
2017-10-31T16:08:50 < dongs> is it still unmaintained
2017-10-31T16:08:55 < dongs> and not as fasr as ikn ow
2017-10-31T16:08:58 < englishman> well the new one is unusable
2017-10-31T16:09:21 < englishman> i accidentally wiped out that entire lunixbox and need to reinstall
2017-10-31T16:09:32 < qyx> also, not meant for calibrated nor standard readings, just informative
2017-10-31T16:09:45 < dongs> englishman: is that teh lunix install you trashed the other day
2017-10-31T16:09:46 < dongs> lol
2017-10-31T16:10:12 < englishman> yeah
2017-10-31T16:10:43 < englishman> going to have one "PARTKEEPR LUNIX IMAGE DO NOT DELETE" image in esxi from now on
2017-10-31T16:10:47 < englishman> anyway all its shit was backed up
2017-10-31T16:12:35 < kikes> yes
2017-10-31T16:12:58 < kikes> how is your wall comming up englishman?
2017-10-31T16:13:07 < englishman> gr8
2017-10-31T16:13:13 < englishman> been super windy so can't wait
2017-10-31T16:14:08 < kikes> here weather is like some oil painting.. all trees are white and shining like gold in the sun
2017-10-31T16:14:57 < englishman> its still nice here
2017-10-31T16:14:59 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/RwR7q3a.jpg?1
2017-10-31T16:15:01 < kikes> qyx, what is that?
2017-10-31T16:15:02 < englishman> also for karlp ^
2017-10-31T16:15:17 < kikes> a glass of juice
2017-10-31T16:15:28 < englishman> barley juice
2017-10-31T16:15:29 < Laurenceb> is IWDG reset by a reset?
2017-10-31T16:15:35 < Laurenceb>  - system reset
2017-10-31T16:15:41 < dongs> its cleared
2017-10-31T16:15:56 < qyx> englishman: I was thinking of your beer when I was killing that beer plant on the garden
2017-10-31T16:16:06 < qyx> don't know how is it called properly
2017-10-31T16:16:10 < englishman> hops
2017-10-31T16:16:10 < englishman> ?
2017-10-31T16:16:20 < qyx> yes
2017-10-31T16:16:36 < englishman> was it a beer strain?
2017-10-31T16:17:15 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-31T16:17:18 < qyx> idk, it looked exactly like on your picture
2017-10-31T16:17:21 < Laurenceb> wtf is this clive1 code
2017-10-31T16:17:25 < englishman> cool
2017-10-31T16:17:34 < englishman> but yes they can be invasive
2017-10-31T16:17:57 < qyx> we were rebuilding the fencing so it had to go away
2017-10-31T16:18:42 < kikes> do you guise know that china economy is stalling?
2017-10-31T16:20:11 < kikes> they are fighting the most massive economic bubble of century
2017-10-31T16:20:19 < kikes> *the century
2017-10-31T16:25:41 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway#Existing_incentives i found why zyp got an electric car
2017-10-31T16:25:46 < dongs> he scammed it from the government
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2017-10-31T16:29:31 < englishman> sure, what do you get
2017-10-31T16:29:36 < englishman> its like $8k off here
2017-10-31T16:29:48 < englishman> and another $2k to installer a charger at home
2017-10-31T16:30:40 < dongs> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/The_Model_3_Interior.jpg haha how the fuck would anyone pay real money for this trash
2017-10-31T16:30:42 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/
2017-10-31T16:30:55 < Laurenceb> erm  https://pastebin.com/FPfs2Hzy
2017-10-31T16:31:18 < Laurenceb> wtf is it doing?
2017-10-31T16:31:22 < englishman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Japan#Government_incentives
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2017-10-31T16:33:19 < dongs> oh noez $500 credit
2017-10-31T16:33:21 < dongs> thanks, japan
2017-10-31T16:33:56 < englishman> hehe
2017-10-31T16:39:26 < renn0xtk9> dongs the VCP_SendRxBufPacketToUsb it is here to do what?
2017-10-31T16:40:42 < dongs> donno, closed that code a while back
2017-10-31T16:41:16 < renn0xtk9> ok...
2017-10-31T16:44:20 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5SazzziazM
2017-10-31T16:44:53 < dongs> ^ attn englishman
2017-10-31T16:48:13 < englishman> ouch man
2017-10-31T16:51:15 < aandrew> I find Robert Ferenec so hard to understand
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2017-10-31T16:58:29 < dongs> his signal to noise is slightly better than eevbeg at least
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2017-10-31T17:04:14 < aandrew> yes, this is true
2017-10-31T17:04:34 < aandrew> and while Ferenec has an accent, it's not overdone and exaggerated
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2017-10-31T17:08:52 < invzim> I don't mind the accent, but a lot of this stuff seems 'streamed' and not terribly well prepared
2017-10-31T17:09:10 < invzim> which is understandable, as it takes a TON of time to make stuff short and too the point
2017-10-31T17:09:13 < invzim> to
2017-10-31T17:11:30 < aandrew> yes. post-production takes a fuckton of time
2017-10-31T17:11:44 < karlp> instead we all have to waste hours listening to unedited stream shit?
2017-10-31T17:11:45 < karlp> fuckem
2017-10-31T17:11:53 < aandrew> it's challenging to think on your feet particuarly with a camera going
2017-10-31T17:12:02 < aandrew> that's one thing that I think Rossmann does well
2017-10-31T17:12:14 < aandrew> 1. he's invested in good equipment, particular audio
2017-10-31T17:12:33 < dongs> lol rossman
2017-10-31T17:12:35 < aandrew> 2. he's got that ability, either natural or learned, to have a stream of consciousness discussion with the camera
2017-10-31T17:12:51 < dongs> wake me up when he has a legitimate business going
2017-10-31T17:13:06 < dongs> and not a front for sneaking in illegals into usa
2017-10-31T17:13:21 < aandrew> define legitimate. he's making money and not screwing people to do so. seems legit to me
2017-10-31T17:13:36 < dongs> he is not allowed to be touching any of that hardware
2017-10-31T17:13:41 < aandrew> lol
2017-10-31T17:13:44 < dongs> and none of the reference stuff he has he's licensed to have or to use
2017-10-31T17:13:51 < dongs> its all stolen shit
2017-10-31T17:14:06 < aandrew> by that argument, so is every repair shop ever
2017-10-31T17:14:17 < dongs> surely not
2017-10-31T17:16:14 < upgrdman> dongie is just mad he's not raking in the yt ad revenue + amazon comission that rossmann gets
2017-10-31T17:17:56 < renn0xtk9> if I echo "T" >/dev/ttyACM0 and don't see it, does that mean that the device has read it and deletre it?   normally  it should still able to see it righ?
2017-10-31T17:18:10 < aandrew> I think rossmann might make decent yt revenue but IIRC his amazon stuff is pretty weak
2017-10-31T17:18:10 < karlp> "it" ?
2017-10-31T17:18:22 < karlp> use picocom/minicom, or understand and use stty properly.
2017-10-31T17:18:27 < aandrew> I certainly don't fault him on it though, he's hustling
2017-10-31T17:18:32 < aandrew> I was gonna say hustling instead of bitching about it
2017-10-31T17:18:36 < karlp> echoing shit to devices is a _bad_ way to get things to behave the way you want.
2017-10-31T17:18:37 < aandrew> but he does both simultaneously
2017-10-31T17:18:45 < englishman> renn0xtk9 unless you have data looping back, your data has been sent, normally consoles will not display them.
2017-10-31T17:18:46 < renn0xtk9> karlp it =  the 'T' character
2017-10-31T17:18:51 < englishman> they will only display what's shown on the RX line.
2017-10-31T17:19:04 < renn0xtk9> englishman okay thanks
2017-10-31T17:20:50 < renn0xtk9> what is wrong in there https://pastebin.com/vkE69XkX?
2017-10-31T17:21:11 < dongs> This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff.
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2017-10-31T17:21:48 < renn0xtk9> the on e I juste posted?
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2017-10-31T17:22:25 < renn0xtk9> https://paste.opensuse.org/97226339
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2017-10-31T17:29:21 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/3iuFKYrX
2017-10-31T17:29:28 < Laurenceb> still failing :-/
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2017-10-31T17:34:23 < Laurenceb> DFU bootloader just aborts straight away
2017-10-31T17:34:54 < dongs> have you looked at bootloader appntoe to see if your boot time pin stuff is ok
2017-10-31T17:35:05 < Laurenceb> yes, its not ok
2017-10-31T17:35:13 < Laurenceb> I need to set boot0 high
2017-10-31T17:35:20 < dongs> not boot0
2017-10-31T17:35:26 < dongs> im talking about uart, spi, i2c etc pins
2017-10-31T17:35:31 < Laurenceb> oh
2017-10-31T17:35:32 < dongs> see which stuff it checks first
2017-10-31T17:36:54 < Laurenceb> 3
2017-10-31T17:36:54 < Laurenceb> Kbyte starting from address
2017-10-31T17:36:54 < Laurenceb> 0x1FFFC400,
2017-10-31T17:37:26 < Laurenceb> r0             0x1fffcb45
2017-10-31T17:37:30 < Laurenceb> wtf
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2017-10-31T17:37:56 < Laurenceb> oh i guess it can jump over the first few bytes no prob
2017-10-31T17:38:19 < dongs> if its going back to main it means it cant match bootloader enable criteria
2017-10-31T17:38:24 < dongs> check those pins in the appnote
2017-10-31T17:38:24 < Laurenceb> ok
2017-10-31T17:39:43 < Laurenceb> application code using the
2017-10-31T17:39:43 < Laurenceb> following entry point:0x1FFFC519
2017-10-31T17:39:46 < Laurenceb> wut
2017-10-31T17:40:01 < Laurenceb> maybes clive1 code is failing
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2017-10-31T17:41:27 < Laurenceb> food tiem bbl
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2017-10-31T17:55:14 < renn0xtk9> is it the way data are meant to be sent ?https://pastebin.com/LD2K3vwk
2017-10-31T17:55:47 < renn0xtk9> cdc_acm 1-5:1.0: failed to set dtr/rts on host < does tthat tell somehting to anyone
2017-10-31T18:00:42 < karlp> you almost definitely didn't implemente those control signals
2017-10-31T18:00:48 < Laurenceb> heh now it disconnects never to be seen again
2017-10-31T18:00:50 < karlp> so either don't try and use them,
2017-10-31T18:00:54 < karlp> or go and implement them
2017-10-31T18:02:09 < renn0xtk9> karlp ? to my question or to Laurenceb?
2017-10-31T18:07:19 < Laurenceb> hmf no luck
2017-10-31T18:07:30 < Laurenceb> tiem to message clive1
2017-10-31T18:07:49 < Laurenceb> has anyone here managed to make a bootloader for F0 ?
2017-10-31T18:09:05 < karlp> renn0xtk9: what do you think?
2017-10-31T18:09:31 < englishman> why, it comes with an excellent bootloader
2017-10-31T18:09:44 < Laurenceb> I mean a jump to bootloader routine
2017-10-31T18:09:46 < dongs> https://colombiareports.com/declassified-cia-document-claims-hitler-colombia-world-war-ii/
2017-10-31T18:09:53 < Laurenceb> dongs: old
2017-10-31T18:09:56 < dongs> sry
2017-10-31T18:09:59 < dongs> just got retweeted it
2017-10-31T18:09:59 < englishman> of course
2017-10-31T18:10:10 < karlp> Laurenceb: just sysreset, bootloader always runs first.
2017-10-31T18:10:14 < karlp> what's the problem?
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2017-10-31T18:10:22 < Laurenceb> bootloader always exits immediatly
2017-10-31T18:10:29 < englishman> wut
2017-10-31T18:10:37 < karlp> blaxter'd it up again I see.
2017-10-31T18:10:47 < Laurenceb> I just to bootloader then am immediately in the main code
2017-10-31T18:10:58 < Laurenceb> it doesnt make any sense but thats what happens
2017-10-31T18:11:01 < renn0xtk9> like this is their crazycode, and I don't know how to payload the byte I want to send and then to shoot https://pastebin.com/mLcVZWu9
2017-10-31T18:11:32 < englishman> https://github.com/multiwii/baseflight/blob/master/src/drv_system.c#L200
2017-10-31T18:11:36 < Laurenceb> my entry code: https://pastebin.com/dYS7FC4s
2017-10-31T18:11:53 < englishman> https://github.com/multiwii/baseflight/blob/master/src/baseflight_startups/startup_stm32f10x_md.s#L132
2017-10-31T18:12:17 < renn0xtk9> karlp well I think they are implemented ^^
2017-10-31T18:12:35 < karlp> renn0xtk9: by who?
2017-10-31T18:12:46 < Laurenceb> englishman: oh ok
2017-10-31T18:12:52 < Laurenceb> thats rather more complex
2017-10-31T18:12:53 < karlp> protip, get rx/tx working before you try and get all the control signals working
2017-10-31T18:13:40 < renn0xtk9> In the code I post they are declared, so I thought it was the way ST meant us to payload the data
2017-10-31T18:14:06 < renn0xtk9> what do you mean get rx/tx working?
2017-10-31T18:14:06 < englishman> f042 right
2017-10-31T18:14:22 < Laurenceb> yes
2017-10-31T18:14:35 < Laurenceb> hmf this is going to be complicated
2017-10-31T18:14:41 < Laurenceb> should try to redo it in c
2017-10-31T18:15:47 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/thread/26824
2017-10-31T18:16:05 < englishman> can you see the PC changing in debugger
2017-10-31T18:16:32 < englishman> do you have a watchdoge going
2017-10-31T18:17:20 < Laurenceb> watchdog is going yes
2017-10-31T18:17:27 < englishman> so
2017-10-31T18:17:33 < englishman> what do you expect to happen
2017-10-31T18:17:38 < englishman> when you stop updating it
2017-10-31T18:17:45 < Laurenceb> I thought iwdg was reset?
2017-10-31T18:17:45 < dongs> surely reset clear is
2017-10-31T18:17:49 < Laurenceb> yeah
2017-10-31T18:18:02 < englishman> do you actually reset the chip
2017-10-31T18:18:05 < Laurenceb> it looks like I have the forum problemz
2017-10-31T18:18:14 < Laurenceb> NVIC_SystemReset
2017-10-31T18:18:22 < englishman> this is just some random assembly code with no context
2017-10-31T18:18:37 < Laurenceb> scroll down the page
2017-10-31T18:18:46 < englishman> wat
2017-10-31T18:18:46 < Laurenceb> what lai.devan says
2017-10-31T18:18:58 < Laurenceb> ^the st forum link I posted
2017-10-31T18:19:03 < Laurenceb> they have the same issues as me
2017-10-31T18:19:07 < englishman> link
2017-10-31T18:19:14 < Laurenceb> https://community.st.com/thread/26824
2017-10-31T18:19:16 < englishman> o nvm
2017-10-31T18:19:16 < englishman> k
2017-10-31T18:19:45 < dongs> wonder if F0 actually clears ram on reset
2017-10-31T18:19:53 < Laurenceb> no
2017-10-31T18:20:05 < Laurenceb> my token is there
2017-10-31T18:20:05 < englishman> did you verify PC
2017-10-31T18:20:27 < Laurenceb> yes, but there are no debugging symbols in dfu bootloader
2017-10-31T18:20:30 < Laurenceb> so gdb failz
2017-10-31T18:20:44 < englishman> oh you are just wasting time anyway
2017-10-31T18:20:47 < englishman> no wonder its been a month
2017-10-31T18:20:47 < Laurenceb> jump to ??? then I'm into main
2017-10-31T18:20:57 < dongs> i stepped through bootlaoder in ozone
2017-10-31T18:20:58 < dongs> works gr8
2017-10-31T18:21:25 < englishman> wait it actually checks BOOT pin in software?
2017-10-31T18:21:28 < dongs>  englishman not only that, hes actually doing this on LUNIX
2017-10-31T18:21:30 < englishman> that sounds implausible
2017-10-31T18:21:31 < Laurenceb> looks like it
2017-10-31T18:21:40 < Laurenceb> it explains my issues
2017-10-31T18:21:40 < englishman> as it goes to buttloader on empty flash
2017-10-31T18:21:55 < Laurenceb> empty flash is a different case
2017-10-31T18:22:04 < Laurenceb> its in the app note
2017-10-31T18:22:34 < englishman> where
2017-10-31T18:22:36 < englishman> i have an2606 open
2017-10-31T18:22:42 < Laurenceb> prob in there
2017-10-31T18:23:03 < Laurenceb> table 3, yeah
2017-10-31T18:23:15 < Laurenceb>  "Empty check description"
2017-10-31T18:25:43 < englishman> hm, memory location in an2606 is different from RM
2017-10-31T18:25:57 < Laurenceb> yeah its confusing
2017-10-31T18:26:49 < englishman> Note:User can jump to the System Memory Bootloader from his application code using the following entry point:0x1FFFC519 (Thumb mode).
2017-10-31T18:26:51 < englishman> yet another address
2017-10-31T18:27:13 < englishman> why not try that
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2017-10-31T18:27:53 < englishman> yet another guy in forum says jumping to 0x1FFFC404  worked
2017-10-31T18:28:08 < dongs>  step over the part wehre it checks for empty flash and shit
2017-10-31T18:28:13 < dongs> just jump direct to usb crap
2017-10-31T18:28:14 < englishman> "step"
2017-10-31T18:28:15 < englishman> "gdb"
2017-10-31T18:28:19 < dongs> after seting up LSI etc
2017-10-31T18:28:22 < dongs> oh right lol
2017-10-31T18:28:35 < englishman> he's going to have to jerk this one off manually
2017-10-31T18:29:29 < Laurenceb> funtiems
2017-10-31T18:29:41 < Laurenceb> I'm gunna try writing gpio setup codez
2017-10-31T18:29:43 < renn0xtk9> karlp anythong more prosaic ?
2017-10-31T18:30:13 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/chvXfBpd
2017-10-31T18:30:19 < Laurenceb> ok.. what could go wrong
2017-10-31T18:31:11 < Laurenceb> 0% this actually works
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2017-10-31T18:35:41 < Laurenceb> and it fails
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2017-10-31T18:35:46 < Laurenceb> never saw that coming
2017-10-31T18:36:12 < Laurenceb> someone must have done this with F042 before
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2017-10-31T19:08:26 < qyx> mhm ESDA5V3L has a different footprint than a common bzx84 zener
2017-10-31T19:08:30 < qyx> -
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2017-10-31T19:25:17 < englishman> fuck notepad++ didnt save my tabs
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2017-10-31T19:27:25 < Laurenceb> still less annoying than DFU
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2017-10-31T19:46:39 < sandstorm> Hello, we are using an STM32F205 and we haven't connected our USB port to VBUS. Right now, USB connection is not being recognized by Windows 10. Any tips ?
2017-10-31T19:49:24 < Thorn> dwc_otg needs to be configured to ignore vbus, otherwise it is not going to initiate connection unless it sees vbus on a dedicated pin
2017-10-31T19:52:06 < Thorn> https://github.com/pthorn/cortexm-usb-driver/blob/master/include/usb/dwc_otg_device.impl.h#L452
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2017-10-31T19:57:39 < zhivko> Maybe somebody knows how can I use RTC backup registers functionality on stm32f3 ? I need example code for read and write, and does anybody knows how many times I could write to backup register?
2017-10-31T19:59:59 < qyx> there is a section in the reference manual which describes the backup domain
2017-10-31T20:00:18 < qyx> you need to have the vbat power supply connected to a supercap/coin cell/whatever
2017-10-31T20:00:34 < qyx> backup registers are ram cells, they require power
2017-10-31T20:00:48 < sandstorm> Thank you very much Thorn. I am working on it as of now.
2017-10-31T20:01:08 < qyx> and I don't have any example code
2017-10-31T20:02:26 < zhivko> qyx: I see RTC_BKP0R_Pos  in stm32f303xc.h, but how to write to this register?
2017-10-31T20:04:20 < qyx> section 27.6.19 in the RM0316
2017-10-31T20:04:36 < qyx> BKP 31:0 The application can write or read data to and from these registers.
2017-10-31T20:05:00 < qyx> so apparently with RTC_BKPxR = 0x0000;
2017-10-31T20:05:08 < qyx> x is a register number
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2017-10-31T20:11:40 < zhivko> qyx: I found something similar but for stm32f4: https://os.mbed.com/users/gregeric/notebook/using-stm32-rtc-backup-registers/
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2017-10-31T20:14:19 < qyx> yep, but it is using some high level hal
2017-10-31T20:15:57 < zhivko> qyx found it
2017-10-31T20:16:00 < zhivko> https://github.com/mblythe86/stm32f3-discovery-basic-template/blob/master/Libraries/STM32F30x_StdPeriph_Driver/src/stm32f30x_rtc.c
2017-10-31T20:16:16 < zhivko>  RTC_ReadBackupRegister, and RTC_WriteBackupRegister
2017-10-31T20:16:22 < zhivko> thnx anyway ;)
2017-10-31T20:16:34 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/eevblog/status/924895467250499584
2017-10-31T20:20:59 < zhivko> qyx: how many times i can write to this register? Is it similar like flash where I am limited with number of write cycles?
2017-10-31T20:24:39 < Thorn> <qyx> backup registers are ram cells
2017-10-31T20:25:15 < zhivko> So nearly infinite write cycles?
2017-10-31T20:25:41 < Laurenceb> is it necessary to erase the option bytes before programming them?
2017-10-31T20:25:57 < zhivko> acording to sample code not.
2017-10-31T20:26:35 < zhivko> but I guess I need to adapt my HW to include coin battery ?
2017-10-31T20:31:19 < qyx> zhivko: of course
2017-10-31T20:31:24 < branjb> how do timers work while debugging/at break points?
2017-10-31T20:33:03 < branjb> ds says "All timer counters can be frozen in debug mode."
2017-10-31T20:33:10 < Thorn> you can configure them to run or stop iirc
2017-10-31T20:33:17 < qyx> zhivko: 6.1.6 in the datasheet of the F3, power supply scheme drawing
2017-10-31T20:33:25 < Thorn> see rm
2017-10-31T20:33:44 < englishman> heh, these 15x15" power/ground planes failed pcb Etest as shorting. dwell time was only 3ms
2017-10-31T20:33:52 < englishman> 40nf measured between them
2017-10-31T20:34:16 < qyx> wht are you doign with 15" ground palnes
2017-10-31T20:34:40 < englishman> big board
2017-10-31T20:34:46 < qyx> a new mining rig with tons of asics for $$$
2017-10-31T20:35:09 < branjb> I have a while loop that is doing nothing but measuring time, it says it takes 35 milliseconds for one loop.  all interrupts are off.  why would it be taking so much time?
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2017-10-31T20:35:42 < qyx> now fast is your board moving?
2017-10-31T20:35:48 < upgrdman> is there any reason why faggots use "#if 0" instead of // commenting out a block of code? i mean even fucking eclipse makes it easy with ctrl+/
2017-10-31T20:35:56 < englishman> wat
2017-10-31T20:36:00 < englishman> why you hate so much
2017-10-31T20:36:04 < englishman> #if 0 is perfectly fine
2017-10-31T20:36:12 < upgrdman> lolwut. you're one of those faggots.
2017-10-31T20:36:18 < qyx> because of no nested comments
2017-10-31T20:36:21 < upgrdman> littering code with needless lines of code
2017-10-31T20:36:21 < englishman> who's the one here using eclipse?
2017-10-31T20:36:23 < qyx> and // is not allowed in c89
2017-10-31T20:36:33 < branjb> https://pastebin.com/1qrmWM8F
2017-10-31T20:36:50 < upgrdman> qyx, thats why you use // and use a version of c that isnt 28 years old
2017-10-31T20:36:52 < qyx> you cannot comment a comment, you know
2017-10-31T20:36:59 < englishman> instead you want nested // ?
2017-10-31T20:37:00 < qyx> also true
2017-10-31T20:37:06 < englishman> and ide-specific hotkeys?
2017-10-31T20:37:10 < qyx> still I don't ise //
2017-10-31T20:37:14 < englishman> plus you lose your #endif marker when you remove them
2017-10-31T20:37:23 < englishman> // also isnt misra-c compliant
2017-10-31T20:37:29 < upgrdman> englishman, just a // at the start of every line. its little less work to ctrl+/ than to #if faggot
2017-10-31T20:37:41 < englishman> no, commenting blocks of codes is faggotry
2017-10-31T20:37:48 < qyx> also true
2017-10-31T20:37:58 < qyx> comments are for comments, not code
2017-10-31T20:38:12 < upgrdman> you god damn faggots
2017-10-31T20:38:16 < branjb> lol
2017-10-31T20:38:17 < qyx> :)
2017-10-31T20:38:22 < englishman> even if you block it off with /* */ its still inappropriate
2017-10-31T20:38:41 < upgrdman> of couse. dont use /**/ because it cant nest. that IS faggotry.
2017-10-31T20:40:53 < englishman> can also do multiple blocks at the same time with that
2017-10-31T20:41:01 < englishman> by doing #define my_switch 0 somewhere else
2017-10-31T20:41:18 < upgrdman> that sounds like you have too much unused code
2017-10-31T20:41:37 < englishman> or build-specifc code
2017-10-31T20:41:43 < englishman> or just test
2017-10-31T20:42:40 < upgrdman> #define someSwitch is fine. i was just bitching about if 0
2017-10-31T20:43:36 < Laurenceb> is it necessary to erase the option bytes before programming them?
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2017-10-31T20:53:12 < Steffanx> Please dont tell me you dont use c99 everywhere qyx ..
2017-10-31T20:53:22 < Steffanx> C89 lol
2017-10-31T20:53:27 < qyx> Steffanx: I do
2017-10-31T20:53:40 < englishman> c99 only
2017-10-31T20:54:08 < qyx> ok, going to smoke this battery charger
2017-10-31T20:55:00 < Steffanx> Record it on video
2017-10-31T20:56:06 < qyx> I am curious how a current limit is set
2017-10-31T20:56:36 < qyx> ah by a resistor, it is fixed
2017-10-31T20:59:24 < aandrew> was someone here talking about some new nxp processor, high end arm
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2017-10-31T21:30:08 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/kXgW9Xjs
2017-10-31T21:30:13 < Laurenceb> finally, this actually works
2017-10-31T21:37:27 < englishman> wouldn't that cripple the onchip bootloader if you actually need it
2017-10-31T21:38:56 < Laurenceb> probably
2017-10-31T22:02:03 < invzim> hm, ths rs485 driver-enable thingie is not available on all models?
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2017-10-31T22:22:17 < qyx> fukit, I connected the boost diode to the SW output instead of the boost input
2017-10-31T22:42:45 < karlp> invzim: only on parts with a "v2" uart peripheral,
2017-10-31T22:42:59 < karlp> so f3, f0, l0, l4, presumably f7 too.
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2017-10-31T23:28:42 < invzim> karlp: damn, not the one I planned to use
2017-10-31T23:28:51 < invzim> that was a pretty neato feature
2017-10-31T23:35:36 < karlp> it's not terribly difficult to do on the other platforms either.
2017-10-31T23:35:43 < karlp> there's an app note and everything
2017-10-31T23:35:55 < karlp> you have a TC interrupt to turn it off, and you turn it on when you start sending...
2017-10-31T23:36:43 < karlp> https://github.com/karlp/fmb-demo/blob/master/opencm3-raw/mb_port/portserial.c#L130 for instance
2017-10-31T23:47:32 < englishman> god damn
2017-10-31T23:47:32 < englishman> https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ftdi-future-technology-devices-international-ltd/TTL-232R-RPI/768-1204-ND/4382044
2017-10-31T23:47:39 < englishman> FTDI really owns this adapter segment
2017-10-31T23:47:49 < englishman> 3000 in stock @ $20 each
2017-10-31T23:48:41 < englishman> https://www.digikey.ca/products/en/cable-assemblies/smart-cables/468?k=TTL-232R
2017-10-31T23:54:04 < upgrdman> englishman, i like this ftdi cable since it can do uart/spi/i2c/jtag/3v3_ldo  https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/ftdi-future-technology-devices-international-ltd/C232HM-DDHSL-0/768-1106-ND/2714139
2017-10-31T23:54:18 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/HTZiTNH.png
2017-10-31T23:54:36 < englishman> neat
2017-10-31T23:55:07 < upgrdman> here's how to do spi with it, if you care: http://www.farrellf.com/projects/software/2015-12-28_FTDI_SPI_Tutorial:_LibMPSSE_with_Visual_Studio_2015/
2017-10-31T23:55:15 < upgrdman> similar process for i2c etc.
2017-10-31T23:56:17 < karlp> englishman: they do a nice one with an rs485 transceiver in it too.
2017-10-31T23:56:56 < karlp> although they seem be charging $40 for them now, they used to be $20
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