--- Log opened Thu Feb 01 00:00:52 2018
2018-02-01T00:01:46 < polyfuse> more security = more supervision in your jail
2018-02-01T00:05:46 < Thorn> no more $5 specials @ allpcb.com?
2018-02-01T00:06:40 < Thorn> it quotes $14 for a <100x100mm 2 layer board
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2018-02-01T00:17:10 < invzim> yah, seems like they got tired of loosing money
2018-02-01T00:18:32 < Thorn> looks like they removed the 2-3 days option and left only the 24hrs one
2018-02-01T00:24:18 < Thorn> pcbway has immediate design review before you can pay
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2018-02-01T00:32:29 < Thorn> looks like pcbway is going to be only slightly cheaper, they recover what they lose on the price with the shipping fee
2018-02-01T00:33:55 < karlp> elecrow has cheaper/cheapest shipping iirc
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2018-02-01T00:41:10 < qyx> mhm, seeeds cheapest shipping option is ~$15 now
2018-02-01T00:41:18 < qyx> but still $5 for 10x 100x100
2018-02-01T00:41:26 < qyx> I shpuld try elecrow then
2018-02-01T00:41:58 < karlp> yeah, seeed is useless when you look at shipping
2018-02-01T00:42:27 < qyx> hm, their web is neraly the same as seeeds
2018-02-01T00:42:40 < qyx> I am curious if it is the same company acually
2018-02-01T00:43:34 < karlp> there's a few companies with that websit now.
2018-02-01T00:43:38 < karlp> or all ~
2018-02-01T00:43:41 < karlp> very similar
2018-02-01T00:43:47 < qyx> but only green color for $5
2018-02-01T00:43:59 < karlp> huh? I thought I got red just now in my last order for the same cheap price
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2018-02-01T00:44:21 < qyx> aha, there is no difference for 5 boards
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2018-02-01T00:44:24 < qyx> but for 10 yes
2018-02-01T00:45:12 < karlp> yeah, for 5 you can have any colour but matte black
2018-02-01T00:46:38 < Thorn> looks like at least the order panel and shipping address editor are the same on allpcb and pcbway (except styling) and one of them has a checkout page that looks very much like the one on aliexpress
2018-02-01T00:48:18 < Thorn> whatever that means lol
2018-02-01T01:00:04 < Steffanx> What does easyeda do nowadays? They used to do $2. They wont let me check with my phone
2018-02-01T01:01:56 < Thorn> whose bright idea was it to make most of the LPC8 series available only in TSSOP20 (not counting QFN etc. which are only slightly larger)
2018-02-01T01:02:32 < Thorn> Steffanx: in mobile chrome try 'request desktop page'
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2018-02-01T01:08:59 < Steffanx> I know thorn. Still get the idea the right part is missing
2018-02-01T01:14:32 < Thorn> https://jlcpcb.com/ $2 for 2 layers
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2018-02-01T01:26:43 < Thorn> ok qfn33 is not "slightly" larger than tssop20 lol
2018-02-01T01:40:14 < munki_> i wonder if any work has been done with interfacing with ISA cards
2018-02-01T01:42:45 < dongs> by "work" you mean "autism:?
2018-02-01T01:46:06 < dongs> http://www.edaboard.com/thread236934.html here you go
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2018-02-01T01:47:08 < munki_> pcie seems so much more intense than old school ISA though
2018-02-01T01:47:19 < munki_> very serious timings and stuff
2018-02-01T01:48:02 < munki_> but yes my autism has never been in dispute
2018-02-01T01:49:34 < dongs> anyway iirc ISA is just address/data bus and some read/write/etc signals so , FSMC could problably be made to work
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2018-02-01T01:53:41 < Rob235> 45 minutes left, hurrryy
2018-02-01T02:02:52 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZdI7rxuPi8
2018-02-01T02:03:06 < Thorn> ^ soyuz launch
2018-02-01T02:07:32 < dongs> whats in it
2018-02-01T02:07:35 < dongs> payload
2018-02-01T02:08:54 < Thorn> Kanopus-V #3 and #4
2018-02-01T02:09:24 < dongs> https://spaceflight101.com/soyuz-kanopus-v-3-4/kanopus-v/ some space telescope shit looks like?
2018-02-01T02:10:06 < dongs> hehe i think that sample image is in dubai
2018-02-01T02:11:54 < dongs> https://www.albawaba.com/business/waldorf-astoria-uae-546157 yeah
2018-02-01T02:12:04 < dongs> palm jumeirah or wahteer shit
2018-02-01T02:12:25 < dongs> spies
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2018-02-01T03:26:15 < branjb> just saw a pack of 8 coyotes walking the dogs
2018-02-01T03:26:23 < branjb> az is crazy
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2018-02-01T03:52:05 < emeb_mac> az is awesome
2018-02-01T03:52:21 < emeb_mac> wait till you see bobcats by the pool
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2018-02-01T03:57:04 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/1RRbLf5.png
2018-02-01T04:02:43 < Thorn> T-5 min
2018-02-01T04:08:44 < dongs> fucking hell
2018-02-01T04:08:51 < dongs> jewtube fucking died and i didnt notice it
2018-02-01T04:09:09 < dongs> i cant rewind the stream? gay
2018-02-01T04:15:55 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/dibnelqb3hd01.png
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2018-02-01T04:39:22 < upgrdman> found laurenceb   http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/31/pensioner-80-pushed-entire-arm-cows-rectum-masturbated-7276619/
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2018-02-01T08:41:47 < dongs> install lunix 13.37 "gay nigger"
2018-02-01T08:45:05 < dongs> i wanna go pumping in australia where is best place
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2018-02-01T08:50:55 < dongs> http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-san-francisco-marijuana-20180131-story.html fucking hell
2018-02-01T08:50:59 < dongs> stoners gotta stone
2018-02-01T08:51:51 < dongs> 20-30 mins (ASAP)
2018-02-01T08:52:00 < dongs> is that what .au considers 'fast'
2018-02-01T08:56:38 < tct_> hello welcome
2018-02-01T08:57:35 < tct_> pump the pumpers
2018-02-01T08:57:56 < dongs> I'm busy cloning uguufx
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2018-02-01T09:31:35 < dongs> I got a new (used) dotmatrix printer cuz my old one took a shit and started crashing heads
2018-02-01T09:31:49 < dongs> and its serial number is only 50 bigger than the old one I got like 4 years ago
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2018-02-01T11:19:28 < dongs> zyp
2018-02-01T11:19:33 < dongs> i found 10 sheets of lldel
2018-02-01T11:19:44 < dongs> (thats 30 if I dont fuck it up
2018-02-01T11:22:26 < Steffanx> Matrix printer... Just because you like the sound?
2018-02-01T11:22:47 < Steffanx> They still sell this continuous form paper?
2018-02-01T11:23:01 < dongs> thats how i print EMS labels
2018-02-01T11:23:09 < dongs> also i jsut finished disasembling the dead one completely
2018-02-01T11:24:35 < dongs> 2 nema23 steppers inside
2018-02-01T11:24:43 < zyp> dongs, oh, hmm
2018-02-01T11:26:17 < zyp> dongs, from what I understand, my customer got an order for 30 complete units, and then he wanted some spares, thus 36
2018-02-01T11:27:42 < zyp> but when you already have enough panels for the 30, it does seem kinda overkill to make a whole new pcb batch for six spares
2018-02-01T11:28:03 < zyp> I'll talk to customer and see
2018-02-01T11:28:59 < zyp> or hmm
2018-02-01T11:30:09 < zyp> fuckit, he wanted 36 and he's paying for the pcb batch anyway
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2018-02-01T11:37:07 < stvn> steffan
2018-02-01T11:41:24 < dongs> ok
2018-02-01T11:41:37 < dongs> gives me some leeway to fuck up anyways.
2018-02-01T11:43:38 < stvn> the cuntputer shop was meant to email me a fucking quote
2018-02-01T11:43:51 < dongs> are you making a new gaming rig
2018-02-01T11:44:03 < dongs> with MELTDOWN
2018-02-01T11:46:32 < stvn> nah just a good old girl to replace this i5-750
2018-02-01T11:47:13 < stvn> https://www.pccasegear.com/products/40461/intel-core-i5-8400
2018-02-01T11:47:17 < stvn> this could be handy
2018-02-01T11:47:34 < dongs> i gave away my old i7-6700 + mobo to a jap
2018-02-01T11:47:48 < dongs> after upgrading to the amaze8series
2018-02-01T11:47:53 < stvn> yeah well
2018-02-01T11:48:01 < stvn> my 6700 is at the factory
2018-02-01T11:48:06 < stvn> with that fucking muppet
2018-02-01T11:48:44 < stvn> i purchased it for the factory so that mac loving faggot could actually get some work done
2018-02-01T11:50:41 < stvn> dongs i sent you an email earlier
2018-02-01T11:52:06 < dongs> did you
2018-02-01T11:52:11 < dongs> checking
2018-02-01T11:52:20 < dongs> haha
2018-02-01T11:52:25 < dongs> why didnt you reply to teh fucking pumping thread
2018-02-01T11:52:28 < dongs> to keep it all in one place
2018-02-01T11:52:33 < dongs> oh, differn temai
2018-02-01T11:52:34 < stvn> ah
2018-02-01T11:52:36 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-01T11:57:30 < stvn> Intel Core i7 8700 3.2GHz (4.6GHz Turbo) Six Core, 12 Thread CPU, LGA1151, 12MB Cache, Max TDP 65W, Intel HD Graphics 630
2018-02-01T11:57:43 < stvn> fuck it has a lot of extra cache.. .. . i might have to get that instead
2018-02-01T11:57:46 < dongs> thats what i wanted to buy but assholes sent me K instead
2018-02-01T11:57:56 < stvn> the fucking DOGS
2018-02-01T12:00:16 < karlp> is 8 series really amaze?
2018-02-01T12:00:22  * karlp is sort of in the market for a new pc
2018-02-01T12:00:44 < karlp> probably all pretty amaze compared to my old jalopyt
2018-02-01T12:02:11 < stvn> what is a jalopyt
2018-02-01T12:05:55 < jadew> ok... so I bought a seriously broken piece of gear, which the user said it's used, but working
2018-02-01T12:06:03 < jadew> it's the guy with the 0 feedback :/
2018-02-01T12:06:27 < jadew> problem is I can't send it back, because I'd loose too much on shipping + customs
2018-02-01T12:06:46 < jadew> it has a failed YIG oscillator
2018-02-01T12:07:01 < jadew> doesn't want to output anything at the lower frequencies
2018-02-01T12:08:20 < stvn> you got jewed man
2018-02-01T12:08:30 < jadew> yeah...
2018-02-01T12:08:40 < stvn> what was it anyway
2018-02-01T12:09:00 < jadew> a 10 MHz to 20 GHz sig gen
2018-02-01T12:09:17 < jadew> set me back $1.6k :/
2018-02-01T12:10:07 < dongs> shoulda just used stm32f4discovery to singalgen
2018-02-01T12:10:11 < dongs> self-trolled
2018-02-01T12:10:23 < jadew> and HP has not released any schematics for this thing
2018-02-01T12:10:36 < jadew> they charge 7k/repair
2018-02-01T12:11:32 < stvn> should have just purchased coffee lake mate
2018-02-01T12:12:30 < jadew> should I say something to the seller?
2018-02-01T12:12:33 < jadew> this is such shit...
2018-02-01T12:13:28 < stvn> hmmm
2018-02-01T12:14:53 < stvn> i better switch pumping rigs
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2018-02-01T12:16:45 < qyx> any recommended low cost FDD LTE modules?
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2018-02-01T12:19:09 < polyfuse> haha check this out, google's car went in a hospital  https://www.google.de/maps/@25.851764,-80.281926,3a,66.8y,108.62h,65.2t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCAoSLEFGMVFpcFAxZzdaTDJQTjhWbEJpZUd4b0NjY3ZtTkY0MmxBbE54UjRVWlo3!2e0
2018-02-01T12:23:28 < stvn> whyyy
2018-02-01T12:23:50 < dongs> waht no
2018-02-01T12:23:52 < dongs> this is standard shit
2018-02-01T12:23:55 < karlp> they do lots of internal stuff these days. funnily enoguh, not with a car
2018-02-01T12:23:58 < dongs> you can get a backpack to carry around inside buildings
2018-02-01T12:23:58 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-01T12:25:10 < tomeaton17> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskElectronics/comments/7u7mdr/is_an_i2c_bus_needed_if_i_still_have_unused/ haha poor guy asking about an eye to see bus
2018-02-01T12:25:45 < dongs> what a fucking cesspool of aids
2018-02-01T12:26:05 < dongs> holy shit why are people seriosuly asnwering to that obvious fucking troll
2018-02-01T12:26:23 < dongs> troll or retard, take your pick!
2018-02-01T12:26:29 < dongs> (could be both)
2018-02-01T12:27:19 < tomeaton17> I reckon just retard lol
2018-02-01T12:29:38 < qyx> address is somewhere in the days sheet
2018-02-01T12:29:56 < stvn> lol
2018-02-01T12:56:32 < stvn> []
2018-02-01T13:03:48 < c10ud> any recommendations for cheap igbt gate drivers?
2018-02-01T13:04:05 < c10ud>  STGWT40HP65FB would be my target ic
2018-02-01T13:05:47 < stvn> that's an igbt
2018-02-01T13:06:56 < polyfuse> c10ud: ne555
2018-02-01T13:07:28 < zyp> ha
2018-02-01T13:07:29 < c10ud> yea the IGBT I would like to use
2018-02-01T13:08:14 < stvn> whut will you do with it
2018-02-01T13:08:17 < c10ud> lol I will put some sub-$ mcu since you want to check temperature/current and some other faults after all...
2018-02-01T13:08:24 < c10ud> induction heating
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2018-02-01T13:08:31 < stvn> ah'
2018-02-01T13:09:01 < stvn> i like gate drive transformer
2018-02-01T13:09:22 < Steffanx> stvn you are our igbt expert. Help him out
2018-02-01T13:09:42 < stvn> fucking ir2110 what else
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2018-02-01T13:09:42 < Steffanx> Be helpful :D
2018-02-01T13:10:25 < polyfuse> stvn: 2113S lel
2018-02-01T13:10:29 < c10ud> let's see :D
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2018-02-01T13:11:00 < c10ud> oh yea I looked into ir2110 already
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2018-02-01T13:13:10 < stvn> gate drive transformer can mean cheap gate drive IC
2018-02-01T13:13:28 < polyfuse> ne556 for half bridge
2018-02-01T13:13:44 < stvn> yeah that raises a q
2018-02-01T13:13:58 < stvn> is this a push pull circuit or a half bridge
2018-02-01T13:14:16 < stvn> or just 1 low side switch
2018-02-01T13:14:23 < polyfuse> i think he needs an 555 since induction heaters use 1 IGBT
2018-02-01T13:14:44 < c10ud> well I was considering an half bridge design
2018-02-01T13:15:04 < c10ud> for 1kW I think low side would be more than enough
2018-02-01T13:15:04 < stvn> you can use hilariously cheap discretes to drive a simple low side switch
2018-02-01T13:15:04 < polyfuse> c10ud: hopefully you know what you are doing ;>
2018-02-01T13:15:19 < polyfuse> c10ud: induction heaters work in resonant mode
2018-02-01T13:15:20 < c10ud> polyfuse, I'm not really into power electronics
2018-02-01T13:15:39 < polyfuse> c10ud: then it will be an expensive game for you
2018-02-01T13:15:44 < karlp> bullshit
2018-02-01T13:16:15 < c10ud> I made some calculations already, plus the heating element is existing
2018-02-01T13:16:29 < c10ud> (being driven at around 40khz)
2018-02-01T13:16:35 < polyfuse> c10ud: a pan ? :)
2018-02-01T13:16:52 < c10ud> nope, some kind of "heating gun"
2018-02-01T13:17:21 < polyfuse> c10ud: hm you are making an induction heated hot air blower ?
2018-02-01T13:18:08 < emeryth> induction vaping
2018-02-01T13:18:10 < polyfuse> c10ud: what power level would you like to achieve?
2018-02-01T13:18:31 < c10ud> I am *thinking* of making a.. thing that heats metal when applied to it
2018-02-01T13:18:35 < polyfuse> over 9000 ?
2018-02-01T13:18:51 < stvn> send me some igbts
2018-02-01T13:19:08 < karlp> c10ud: upgrdman made one on the cheap as a learning experience had lots of fun
2018-02-01T13:19:28 < c10ud> nah, 1kw for starters, I was considering an half bridge and then expand to full bridge and change igbt models to reach higher power..eventually
2018-02-01T13:20:05 < polyfuse> c10ud: have fun
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2018-02-01T13:25:14 < Steffanx> ohsix have you met your brother yet?
2018-02-01T13:25:27  * karlp grins
2018-02-01T13:25:41 < c10ud> polyfuse, lol thx
2018-02-01T13:25:44 < karlp> Steffanx: did you just assume someone's gender?
2018-02-01T13:26:25 < c10ud> brb food, meanwhile throw at me your high voltage experiments so I can fry myself better lol
2018-02-01T13:26:39 < stvn> ok
2018-02-01T13:26:57 < polyfuse> c10ud: microwave oven transformer
2018-02-01T13:27:13 < Steffanx> karlp: ##stm32 says: no females on irc.
2018-02-01T13:27:43 < stvn> c10ud, do what this crossdresser does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCm1iPLVe8I
2018-02-01T13:29:45 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/engineering/circuit-design-16198874/
2018-02-01T13:30:43 < stvn> long time no freecancer
2018-02-01T13:36:14 < polyfuse> c10ud: 2500V 1A peak, great mosquito zapper
2018-02-01T13:36:24 < polyfuse> dongs: i would quote him 10k
2018-02-01T13:37:07 < polyfuse> huh  https://www.freelancer.com/u/sofiadubina99
2018-02-01T13:38:14 < qyx> Ali G is bidding on all projects
2018-02-01T13:38:35 < dongs> Lol
2018-02-01T13:38:39 < dongs> fakepix
2018-02-01T13:41:33 < polyfuse> https://www.freelancer.com/u/nannou91  $9/h ?
2018-02-01T13:41:52 < dongs> pakis will work for free
2018-02-01T13:41:58 < dongs> no jobs completed
2018-02-01T13:41:58 < polyfuse> hah
2018-02-01T13:42:00 < dongs> spam account
2018-02-01T13:43:08 < gjm> would hire
2018-02-01T13:43:11 < gjm> :^)
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2018-02-01T14:11:19 < dongs> oh fuck
2018-02-01T14:11:27 < dongs> AMP trash made it into encrypted.google.com results
2018-02-01T14:11:38 < dongs> .............
2018-02-01T14:11:47 < dongs> time to move to duckduckgo.
2018-02-01T14:14:36 < c10ud> polyfuse, why would you go so high with voltage? I was thinking of feeding the bridge with 330VDC directly
2018-02-01T14:22:13 < c10ud> as for the gate drive transformer..do you use it to isolate the IGBT hv from the e.g. 12V IR2210?
2018-02-01T14:37:02 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: here post offices use the same dot matrix printers since ~30 years, I've never seen them having a single slip, the print may not be perfectly uniform near the end of the tape but they have insane reliability, interestingly, they don't have tractor fed paper
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2018-02-01T14:44:37 < karlp> all the commercial invoice printers at the grocery stores here are dot matrix too.
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2018-02-01T14:50:25 < zyp> dongs, cables arrived, looks nice
2018-02-01T14:50:35 < dongs> cool
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2018-02-01T15:15:44 < Thorn> quality musics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z6IKnYXqFM
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2018-02-01T15:29:58 < BrainDamage> to fit the previous topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8I6qt_Z0Cg
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2018-02-01T16:27:16 < kakimir> anyone have inexpensive low Iq LDO for 3v3 output for small mcu?
2018-02-01T16:27:29 < dongs> kakimir: dongs.ldos in zypsinis
2018-02-01T16:27:31 < dongs> snips
2018-02-01T16:27:39 < kakimir> small size, inexpensive, input voltage from midvoltage 5volts
2018-02-01T16:28:07 < BrainDamage> at least check it first
2018-02-01T16:29:05 < kakimir> okay
2018-02-01T16:30:43 < kakimir> MIC5504 - there it is
2018-02-01T16:31:37 < kakimir> when dongs writes realz cheap, great specs! I think it's the only one needed
2018-02-01T16:31:52 < kakimir> assumin it's writen by dongs
2018-02-01T16:32:44 < kakimir> jesus it's cheap
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2018-02-01T16:37:44 < karlp> mic5504 is awesome
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2018-02-01T16:46:18 < qyx> mhm never used it, looks cool
2018-02-01T16:46:30 < qyx> I could put 50 LDOs on a single pcb
2018-02-01T16:46:36 < qyx> like kakimir with SMA
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2018-02-01T17:29:02 < dongs> team up wiht kikemir
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2018-02-01T17:32:16 < dongs> lunix pros, i have a file with a specific encoding being served over http (not utf8), the filename is stored in content-disposition and wget saves it but cuz its lunix, it trashes the filename saving it as UTF8 or something. any way to do conversion?
2018-02-01T17:33:15 < karlp> huh, neat.
2018-02-01T17:34:10 < karlp> try curl instead?
2018-02-01T17:34:24 < BrainDamage> there's --local-encoding and --remote-encoding
2018-02-01T17:34:26 < karlp> insteadof "wget http://asdfads" do "curl -O "http://alsdfad"
2018-02-01T17:34:28 < BrainDamage> for wget
2018-02-01T17:34:46 < dongs> BrainDamage: tried
2018-02-01T17:34:55 < dongs> kakimir: curl does same fail
2018-02-01T17:35:22 < dongs> note, the file encoding is lets say Hebrew in Content-Disposition: filename="hebrewshit.zip"
2018-02-01T17:35:28 < dongs> err kakimir -> kakimir
2018-02-01T17:35:29 < dongs> THE FUCK
2018-02-01T17:35:31 < karlp> hehe
2018-02-01T17:35:34 < karlp> I knew what you mean :)
2018-02-01T17:35:38 < Laurenceb> wut no ban
2018-02-01T17:35:41 < Laurenceb> hello
2018-02-01T17:36:21 < dongs> btw, i must have filename from content-disposition, its quite important. which is why i want to be able to know how to recode it.
2018-02-01T17:36:44 < karlp> hrm, specs say you can have usascii only :)
2018-02-01T17:36:46 < Laurenceb> neural network trained on it queries again?
2018-02-01T17:37:10 < dongs> karlp: sorry to hear that, its definitely used to serve whatever page charset is
2018-02-01T17:37:24 < dongs> what spec, http rfc?
2018-02-01T17:37:37 < BrainDamage> echo hi | iconv -t UTF-8 -f ISO-8859-1 - seems to work
2018-02-01T17:37:43 < dongs> RFC 6266
2018-02-01T17:37:59 < dongs> BrainDamage: and how would I feed the header through that
2018-02-01T17:37:59 < BrainDamage> will convert to utf-8 from latin-1
2018-02-01T17:38:20 < BrainDamage> is the filename garbled or the content?
2018-02-01T17:38:23 < dongs> filename
2018-02-01T17:38:24 < karlp> filename only,
2018-02-01T17:38:48 < karlp> rfc5987 is meant to allow things like htis, but only where it's supported
2018-02-01T17:39:05 < karlp> yeah, 6266 is the updated overview one
2018-02-01T17:39:13 < karlp> good luck seeing that supported everywhere
2018-02-01T17:39:20 < dongs> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6266#appendix-C.1
2018-02-01T17:39:22 < dongs> gr8
2018-02-01T17:39:25 < karlp> http://test.greenbytes.de/tech/tc2231/ might be helpful
2018-02-01T17:39:41 < dongs> chrome handles it correctly
2018-02-01T17:39:55 < dongs> but the point is i need to download 100s of files with broken shit ike this (most are ascii, some ARE however in local encoding).
2018-02-01T17:39:58 < dongs> and this causes total fail
2018-02-01T17:40:12 < karlp> I mean, windows can't even do spaces properly: https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/issues/8328173/
2018-02-01T17:40:25 < BrainDamage> one sec
2018-02-01T17:40:33 < dongs> wait waht
2018-02-01T17:40:36 < dongs> chrome doesnt handle it properly either
2018-02-01T17:40:37 < dongs> ahaha
2018-02-01T17:40:41 < dongs> it gets me garbage filenaem
2018-02-01T17:40:54 < dongs> but when I wget -d and log the headersr, the encoding is same as the rest of teh site
2018-02-01T17:41:04 < kakimir> no SMAs were harmed during development of this product
2018-02-01T17:41:05 < karlp> some of the "solutions" are to fix the servers
2018-02-01T17:41:11 < dongs> heh yeah no
2018-02-01T17:41:18 < dongs> looks like i will just have to write my own shitty wget
2018-02-01T17:41:32 < dongs> using winsock http api or whatever
2018-02-01T17:41:54 < BrainDamage> for f in $(ls); do mv -v "$f" "$(echo $f | iconv -t UTF-8 -f ISO-8859-1 -)"; done
2018-02-01T17:42:07 < BrainDamage> change the input encoding of -f to the correct one
2018-02-01T17:42:07 < dongs> to fix filenames?
2018-02-01T17:42:10 < BrainDamage> yes
2018-02-01T17:42:13 < dongs> lets see
2018-02-01T17:42:27 < dongs> -f = whatever teh shit was saved in right?
2018-02-01T17:42:30 < BrainDamage> yes
2018-02-01T17:43:24 < karlp> f for from
2018-02-01T17:43:44 < dongs> hm that worked, missed some, but better than nothing
2018-02-01T17:44:09 < BrainDamage> you can set how to handle char mismatches and probably hit all
2018-02-01T17:44:49 < BrainDamage>  for f in $(ls); do mv -v "$f" "$(echo $f | iconv -t 'UTF-8//TRANSLIT' -f ISO-8859-1 -)"; done
2018-02-01T17:44:50 < BrainDamage> try that
2018-02-01T17:45:09 < BrainDamage> or //IGNORE to have it skip garbled chars
2018-02-01T17:45:35 < dongs> shit
2018-02-01T17:45:39 < dongs> it fails cuz of spaces in filenames lol
2018-02-01T17:45:41 < dongs> not cuz of conversion
2018-02-01T17:45:55 < BrainDamage> oh, durr, my bad
2018-02-01T17:46:01 < karlp> extra "" around the $f in echo
2018-02-01T17:46:05 < BrainDamage> exactly
2018-02-01T17:46:06 < dongs> ahh
2018-02-01T17:47:25 < BrainDamage> https://www.xkcd.com/196/ relevant
2018-02-01T17:48:01 < dongs> lol
2018-02-01T17:49:09 < dongs> thank you, lunix pros
2018-02-01T17:49:19 < dongs> the last shit fixes it properly
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2018-02-01T17:56:15 < dongs> ugh or did it
2018-02-01T17:57:26 < dongs> single " or double?
2018-02-01T17:57:31 < dongs> ' or "
2018-02-01T17:57:36 < Laurenceb> urg bash
2018-02-01T17:58:03 < BrainDamage> it's more akward, sec
2018-02-01T17:58:07 < BrainDamage> for f in $(ls); do mv -v "$f" "$(echo \"$f\" | iconv -t 'UTF-8' -f ISO-8859-1 -)"; done
2018-02-01T17:58:21 < BrainDamage> they have to be escaped because they are already within a "" block
2018-02-01T17:58:58 < dongs> lmao that completely wrecked it
2018-02-01T17:59:03 < dongs> it renamed everything into "filename"
2018-02-01T17:59:03 < dongs> LOL
2018-02-01T17:59:06 < dongs> literall wiht ::'s
2018-02-01T17:59:08 < dongs> er ""
2018-02-01T18:02:50 < BrainDamage> i fucking hate this shit
2018-02-01T18:03:22 < BrainDamage> finding the proper quote wrapping in the shell requires arcane magic knowledge
2018-02-01T18:04:51 < BrainDamage> ISP='\n'; for f in "$(ls)"; do mv -v "$f" "$(echo "$f" | iconv -t 'UTF-8' -f ISO-8859-1 -)"; done
2018-02-01T18:04:58 < BrainDamage> i tested it here
2018-02-01T18:05:08 < dongs> whats ISP
2018-02-01T18:05:18 < BrainDamage> input field separator
2018-02-01T18:05:31 < BrainDamage> bash by default takes spaces to separate argument functions
2018-02-01T18:05:40 < BrainDamage> a horrible idea as you can imagine
2018-02-01T18:05:46 < dongs> can i stick taht inside a .sh just like that?
2018-02-01T18:05:55 < BrainDamage> yes, provided it works
2018-02-01T18:06:18 < dongs> haha nope.
2018-02-01T18:06:23 < dongs> looks like it batched up all teh crap in one line
2018-02-01T18:06:32 < dongs> lemme jsut try command line without .sh
2018-02-01T18:06:43 < dongs> ya same fail
2018-02-01T18:06:58 < dongs> mv: failed to access '180115.zip\nCAM IF V0.2-GERBER.zip\nCP SWITCH BOARD_GER.zip\nCom
2018-02-01T18:07:01 < dongs> etc
2018-02-01T18:10:29 < BrainDamage> last try
2018-02-01T18:10:33 < BrainDamage> for f in *; do mv -v "$f" "$(echo "$f" | iconv -t 'UTF-8' -f ISO-8859-1 -)"; done
2018-02-01T18:10:54 < dongs> lets see
2018-02-01T18:11:31 < dongs> bingo
2018-02-01T18:11:36 < dongs> what the fuck changed?
2018-02-01T18:11:46 < BrainDamage> how i fed the input data
2018-02-01T18:12:08 < BrainDamage> * is a bash builtin to select files
2018-02-01T18:12:16 < BrainDamage> ls is an external program
2018-02-01T18:12:36 < BrainDamage> rather than coax bash to parse the program's output, i just told bash to iterate over the files by itself
2018-02-01T18:12:40 < dongs> lunix is fucking awful to no end
2018-02-01T18:13:34 < BrainDamage> in this case it's both bash having a horrible syntax with a lots of pitfalls, and my experience with it being limited
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2018-02-01T18:30:41 < qyx> I am curious how to do a linear ~30cm long, light detecting array
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2018-02-01T18:31:01 < qyx> maybe some shift phototransistors, shift registers and SPI
2018-02-01T18:31:06 < qyx> -shift
2018-02-01T18:31:21 < BrainDamage> scanner sensor
2018-02-01T18:31:29 < englishman> a regular scanner, and some lens?
2018-02-01T18:31:29 < englishman> ^
2018-02-01T18:31:39 < qyx> no, it has to be in a ~10mm max tube
2018-02-01T18:31:47 < qyx> 10mm diameter that is
2018-02-01T18:32:14 < qyx> it is some erosion sensor thing
2018-02-01T18:32:23 < BrainDamage> gascromatograph light sensor, but it won't be cheap
2018-02-01T18:32:26 < qyx> maybe it would be diable with capacitive sensing
2018-02-01T18:32:46 < qyx> but I suspect there is a reason to do it with light
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2018-02-01T18:33:17 < sync> BrainDamage: depends
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2018-02-01T18:53:35 < qyx> ok, I found a maxim 16 channel analog mux, 4x4mm, i2c
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2018-02-01T18:55:44 < qyx> phototransistor, one resistor and one mux per 16 pixels
2018-02-01T18:55:47 < qyx> should be doable
2018-02-01T18:57:08 < qyx> it can be even daisy chained
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2018-02-01T19:09:59 < karlp> the scanner element in a scanner would fit in a 10mm tube easily.
2018-02-01T19:10:03 < karlp> at least the ones I've pulled apart
2018-02-01T19:10:12 < karlp> the mounting and motor drive shit makes it big, nothign else
2018-02-01T19:14:13 < qyx> http://www.hamamatsu.com/sp/hc/osh/osh_013_002_figure05.jpg
2018-02-01T19:14:17 < qyx> kawaii
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2018-02-01T19:17:06 < aandrew> heh I'm looking at hamamatsu sensors too incidentally
2018-02-01T19:17:16 < aandrew> 2048x1 and 4096x1 line ccds
2018-02-01T19:26:59 < sync> hmm
2018-02-01T19:28:35 < dongs> you should take apart some dotmatrix printers
2018-02-01T19:29:20 < Steffanx> Sounds a bit Make:R-ish to me.
2018-02-01T19:29:36 < dongs> yeah.
2018-02-01T19:29:43 < dongs> i did that today, felt super make:R
2018-02-01T19:30:31 < Steffanx> When you can't beat them, join them right?
2018-02-01T19:30:39 < Steffanx> *if
2018-02-01T19:32:23 < dongs> and, finished writing proper .exe that grabs these jap files with correct encoding
2018-02-01T19:32:40 < dongs> ill use BrainDamage's script to fix the existing few months fworth of data but my exe for new shit :D
2018-02-01T19:33:38 < Steffanx> Welcome Fellow European
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2018-02-01T19:33:46 < Steffanx> Brother.
2018-02-01T19:35:08 < englishman> hmm i have a hamamatsu datasheet open
2018-02-01T19:35:13 < englishman> S10227-10
2018-02-01T19:35:36 < Steffanx> is that song never ending superbia?
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2018-02-01T19:49:38 < dongs> superbia listens to dragonsteadintei on repeat 24/7
2018-02-01T19:50:02 < dongs> y/y/y
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2018-02-01T19:56:08 < Steffanx> Didnt we all back then?
2018-02-01T19:58:35 < englishman> dongs how often do you get calls from the squeegee guy
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2018-02-01T19:58:57 < englishman> i get mine every 3 months like clockwork
2018-02-01T19:58:59 < englishman> and i love it
2018-02-01T19:59:00 < dongs> he probly calls you cuz youre not an international call away
2018-02-01T19:59:04 < englishman> it is the oldest and most cherished form of spam
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2018-02-01T20:04:05 < Steffanx> Only calls i get is from microsoft guys. I like how helpful they are
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2018-02-01T20:05:43 < englishman> yes i have learned a lot of urdu from those guys
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2018-02-01T20:20:33 < dongs> is beagleboner deesign opensores?
2018-02-01T20:20:58 < dongs> ah ya
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2018-02-01T21:01:56 < bfrog> are there any pitfalls to using DMA between peripherals and memory and vice versa that I should look out for?
2018-02-01T21:02:09 < bfrog> the docs seem so skimpy on this stuff
2018-02-01T21:03:13 < Laurenceb> off topic... anyone here used databases?
2018-02-01T21:03:23 < Laurenceb> I'm trying to find some useful benchmarks
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2018-02-01T21:04:49 < kakimir> AvE has perfect ski slopes
2018-02-01T21:05:31 < Steffanx> What are you looking for Laurenceb?
2018-02-01T21:05:44 < Steffanx> Huge oracle db or .. fancy open sores mariadb?
2018-02-01T21:05:48 < Laurenceb> to see if InfluxDB will actually work for muh vehicle data
2018-02-01T21:05:57 < Laurenceb> I suspect it will fail horribly
2018-02-01T21:06:04 < Laurenceb> but I've been asked to use it
2018-02-01T21:06:23 < Laurenceb> my plan was for uniquely names wav files and metadata in postgresql
2018-02-01T21:06:29 < Laurenceb> *named
2018-02-01T21:06:42 < zyp> I'm dumping some of the data from my smarthome shit into influxdb
2018-02-01T21:07:14 < Laurenceb> at >200points/s ?
2018-02-01T21:07:18 < Laurenceb> *200k
2018-02-01T21:07:23 < zyp> no, more like a few points per hour
2018-02-01T21:07:26 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-01T21:07:50 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/yD9a1.png <- shit like this
2018-02-01T21:08:17 < BrainDamage> bedroom shake sensor?
2018-02-01T21:08:51 < zyp> don't have that yet
2018-02-01T21:09:22 < BrainDamage> ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)
2018-02-01T21:09:35 < Laurenceb> tfw no shaker
2018-02-01T21:11:23 < gxti> postgres and sqlite are my go to choices, depending on the requirements
2018-02-01T21:11:47 < jpa-> hdf5 is also kind-of nice when you have a lot of data
2018-02-01T21:11:54 < Steffanx> Hippies do nosql databases right?
2018-02-01T21:12:03 < Laurenceb> manager benchmarked InfluxDB at ~350kpoints/s with its benchmarking tool
2018-02-01T21:12:05 < BrainDamage> I've used sqlite myself and it was pretty decent, but i didn't have high data rate requirements
2018-02-01T21:12:10 < Laurenceb> so that means its good to go....
2018-02-01T21:12:23 < gxti> nosql crap has its uses but i start from the perspective of "why won't postgres work"
2018-02-01T21:12:24 < Laurenceb> on his high end workstation
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2018-02-01T21:12:41 < BrainDamage> why do you need to put the samples in the database, it sounds like more efforts than needed
2018-02-01T21:12:53 < Laurenceb> will a yuuuge database slow down the sample write?
2018-02-01T21:12:58 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage: ikr
2018-02-01T21:13:12 < stvn> hello welcome
2018-02-01T21:13:14 < Laurenceb> data -> wav with unique name, metadata -> postgresql
2018-02-01T21:13:29 < Laurenceb> hello my antipodean friend
2018-02-01T21:13:50 < jpa-> bfrog: isn't the whole dma chapter about doing exactly that? i guess the biggest pitfall is that you have to check from the bus matrix diagram earlier in the refman that the DMA controller you are using actually has access to the RAM block and the peripheral you want it to access
2018-02-01T21:14:15 < Laurenceb> manager when autistic rage mode when I suggested InfluxDB maybe wasnt best
2018-02-01T21:14:44 < zyp> influxdb is a time series database, the point of it is to do statistics queries
2018-02-01T21:15:09 < zyp> and retention policies that automatically drops resolution on older data and shit
2018-02-01T21:15:13 < BrainDamage> how would you even handle backups? do you need to backup the whole shebang everytime?
2018-02-01T21:15:23 < zyp> if that's not what you need, influxdb is probably not the right tool
2018-02-01T21:15:38 < BrainDamage> or do you need to add custom table selection mirroring to another db?
2018-02-01T21:16:08 < jpa-> i've found that hdf5 works quite nicely when you just want to dump a huge array of numbers somewhere and be able to associate some metadata to each table
2018-02-01T21:16:17 < Laurenceb> zyp: wait wut
2018-02-01T21:16:20 < Laurenceb> irl lolling
2018-02-01T21:16:42 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage: ikr
2018-02-01T21:17:00 < Laurenceb> at least postgresql has free replication
2018-02-01T21:17:10 < Laurenceb> and there is this thing called rsync
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2018-02-01T21:17:38 < zyp> Laurenceb, did I say something weird?
2018-02-01T21:17:51 < Laurenceb> >retention policies that automatically drops resolution on older data
2018-02-01T21:18:01 < zyp> yes
2018-02-01T21:18:06 < jpa-> like rrdtool
2018-02-01T21:18:10 < zyp> exactly
2018-02-01T21:18:13 < Laurenceb> M Y  S I D E S
2018-02-01T21:18:37 < jpa-> i guess they'd perhaps like to keep the old data :P
2018-02-01T21:18:40 < zyp> I mean, you don't _have_ to do that, but it's one of the major features
2018-02-01T21:18:40 < Laurenceb> we need bit level correct samples
2018-02-01T21:18:55 < Laurenceb> like with a wav file
2018-02-01T21:19:17 < jpa-> with rrdtool it is a real pain in the ass to try to keep all data, even at one of the lower resolutions because you always have to give some maximum amount and the file will immediately be that size
2018-02-01T21:19:20 < gxti> fucking rrdtool. cacti was amazing at ruining everything for no reason
2018-02-01T21:21:30 < bfrog> jpa-: good to know
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2018-02-01T21:26:00 < Laurenceb> will InfluxDB get slower as more samples are added?
2018-02-01T21:26:37 < zyp> insertion? probably not
2018-02-01T21:26:42 < zyp> but queries probaably will
2018-02-01T21:26:48 < Laurenceb> ok
2018-02-01T21:27:22 < Laurenceb> I was looking at https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/0*0bSxTmhfrjurR59F.
2018-02-01T21:28:15 < zyp> storing individual samples of something like a .wav file in a database sounds super retarded btw
2018-02-01T21:28:27 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb: https://http.cat/404
2018-02-01T21:28:38 < Laurenceb> ikr
2018-02-01T21:28:41 < Laurenceb> arg wut
2018-02-01T21:28:45 < stvn> ty
2018-02-01T21:28:46 < Laurenceb> 1 sec
2018-02-01T21:28:50 < zyp> BrainDamage, include the .
2018-02-01T21:28:57 < BrainDamage> oh
2018-02-01T21:28:59 < jpa-> who puts trailing dots in urls
2018-02-01T21:29:17 < zyp> trolling tods
2018-02-01T21:29:18 < zyp> dots
2018-02-01T21:29:18 < Laurenceb> https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*mU4qSXCeZif0pajI9xK7aQ.png
2018-02-01T21:30:35 < kakimir> why it's so hard to make fast SQL?
2018-02-01T21:31:25 < kakimir> common cases of SQL implementations are usually always concidered "slow"
2018-02-01T21:31:36 < kakimir> bigger the name - the slower
2018-02-01T21:31:39 < BrainDamage> databases are optimized to store a fuckload of data, search and filter it
2018-02-01T21:31:47 < Laurenceb> >put all ur data up on open web
2018-02-01T21:31:51 < Laurenceb> >let google index it
2018-02-01T21:31:56 < Laurenceb> >search using google
2018-02-01T21:31:58 < Laurenceb> >profit
2018-02-01T21:32:31 < BrainDamage> moreover they have to guarantee properties such as ACID
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2018-02-01T21:32:50 < kakimir> aids
2018-02-01T21:32:50 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACID
2018-02-01T21:34:26 < kakimir> okay
2018-02-01T21:35:15 < stvn> okay
2018-02-01T21:35:41 < Rob235> I'm getting tired of the library...
2018-02-01T21:35:42 < kakimir> okay okay
2018-02-01T21:36:45 < Steffanx> buy a 3d printer Rob235
2018-02-01T21:36:50 < Steffanx> cheap anet
2018-02-01T21:36:54 < Rob235> buy me one
2018-02-01T21:37:03 < Rob235> its my bday soon
2018-02-01T21:37:07 < stvn> how much is it anyway
2018-02-01T21:37:13 < Steffanx> cheap
2018-02-01T21:37:14 < BrainDamage> print a new library
2018-02-01T21:37:24 < Rob235> Id rather save up for a prusa i3 mk3
2018-02-01T21:37:49 < Steffanx> Somewhere in between 109 and 200, stvn
2018-02-01T21:37:52 < Steffanx> yankee dollar
2018-02-01T21:37:57 < stvn> okay
2018-02-01T21:38:04 < stvn> waste of dollar
2018-02-01T21:38:08 < Steffanx> no.
2018-02-01T21:38:14 < stvn> better off investing in wafl if you ask me
2018-02-01T21:38:19 < Steffanx> yes
2018-02-01T21:39:02 < Rob235> printing another one of these, at least its small: https://i.imgur.com/1RRbLf5.png
2018-02-01T21:39:07 < Rob235> 5 hours
2018-02-01T21:40:23 < Ultrasauce> SQL is slow when you write shit schemas and queries
2018-02-01T21:40:45 < Ultrasauce> use indexes properly and don't do exploding joins
2018-02-01T21:41:08 < Steffanx> but dont indexes etc tend to slow down inserts?
2018-02-01T21:41:23 < Ultrasauce> x^4 comparisons would be slow using trendy orange website database xyz too
2018-02-01T21:42:19 < jpa-> storing sequential samples as separate rows will be uselessly slow anyway
2018-02-01T21:42:28 < jpa-> if necessary, just store as binary blob
2018-02-01T21:42:33 < Steffanx> heh
2018-02-01T21:42:44 < Steffanx> Better just keep the wav files.
2018-02-01T21:43:34 < Laurenceb> yeah this whole thing is beyond stupid
2018-02-01T21:43:43 < Laurenceb> just use database for metadata
2018-02-01T21:44:00 < gxti> postgres does have a way to store large objects in a separate location but it's not much different from just having files off to the side
2018-02-01T21:44:04 < stvn> is this place of work trying to make you have a meltdown Laurenceb ?
2018-02-01T21:44:17 < Laurenceb> stvn: I think so
2018-02-01T21:44:19 < gxti> and technically if the files are < 1GB you can just put them right in the table, but it's not necessarily a good idea
2018-02-01T21:44:19 < stvn> cool
2018-02-01T21:44:24 < Laurenceb> but the manager was raging more today
2018-02-01T21:44:39 < Laurenceb> he chased me down the corridor and accused me of disrespecting him
2018-02-01T21:45:01 < Steffanx> i bet you were behaving bad because of your ban in ##stm32.
2018-02-01T21:45:05 < stvn> lol
2018-02-01T21:45:28 < BrainDamage> to be fair if your behaviour irl is even a fraction of the shit you do with your online persona it'd be quite justified
2018-02-01T21:45:47 < stvn> fursona
2018-02-01T21:46:37 < BrainDamage> i had a friend during my diving course who was a strong furry, he enjoyed embarassing everyone telling tales of his debaucheries
2018-02-01T21:46:51 < Ultrasauce> not gonna lie I wasn't paying attention to the context, just bitching out kakimir. for this application yeah a database is dumb
2018-02-01T21:46:59 < stvn> oh yes
2018-02-01T21:47:10 < BrainDamage> i am pretty desensitivized
2018-02-01T21:47:36 < BrainDamage> yup, there's essentially no feature a database provides that give a real benefit for his task
2018-02-01T21:48:20 < BrainDamage> with the exception of metadata, all the read/writes happen on independent datasets
2018-02-01T21:48:32 < BrainDamage> and he doesn't need indexing, searching, or anything of the sort
2018-02-01T21:48:50 < Laurenceb> next meeting is going to be fun...
2018-02-01T21:49:08 < BrainDamage> well, rather than trying to justify why it's a bad idea
2018-02-01T21:49:16 < BrainDamage> have him justify why it's a good one
2018-02-01T21:49:31 < Laurenceb> good plan
2018-02-01T21:50:14 < Steffanx>  tell him: /join ##stm32
2018-02-01T21:50:37 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-01T21:50:46 < stvn> the channel on irc for databases
2018-02-01T21:50:46 < BrainDamage> +1
2018-02-01T21:50:56 < Laurenceb> haha
2018-02-01T21:51:04 < Laurenceb> well he is on freenode atm...
2018-02-01T21:51:16 < BrainDamage> nick?
2018-02-01T21:51:21 < Laurenceb> secret
2018-02-01T21:51:39 < Laurenceb> I'm not letting the trollin leak into irl
2018-02-01T21:51:45 < stvn> * [secret] (~mp@51.15.45.209): d
2018-02-01T21:54:50 < stvn>  heh
2018-02-01T21:55:35 < stvn> you could be the next violentacrez dr.b
2018-02-01T21:59:14 < karlp> bfrog: were you expecting pitfals? it's not a very complicated operation, it's "copy memory from a to b"
2018-02-01T22:00:45 < Laurenceb> stvn: fitting http://violentacres.com/dont-treat-your-employers-better-than-they-treat-you/
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2018-02-01T22:06:14 < aandrew> lol that article
2018-02-01T22:06:27 < aandrew> "your job steals 40+h of your life a week" no... no it doesn't.
2018-02-01T22:06:39 < aandrew> you agree to work there and GIVE them 40+h in exchange for $salary
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2018-02-01T22:08:00 < karlp> yeah, that bit was pretty wank
2018-02-01T22:08:11 < karlp> the rest was all, "this is why you live somewhere else"
2018-02-01T22:08:23 < karlp> fuck us labour law
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2018-02-01T22:09:58 < aandrew> I rather enjoy contracting
2018-02-01T22:11:03 < jpa-> i'm rather meh about contracting, but beats full-day employment anyway
2018-02-01T22:11:07 < Laurenceb> it was an stvn suggestion
2018-02-01T22:11:15 < Laurenceb> were you expecting something sane...
2018-02-01T22:11:34 < jpa-> i do agree with the silly "extra rewards" at many jobs
2018-02-01T22:11:40 < bfrog> karlp: I suppose I was, its new to me, I'm used to the interrupt or poll methods found on pic/avr chips
2018-02-01T22:13:47 < Laurenceb> https://kek.gg/i/5mHTzB.jpeg
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2018-02-01T22:18:19 < bfrog> Laurenceb: yeah, db for metadata seems sensible, binary log files of some sort for the actual bulk
2018-02-01T22:18:31 < bfrog> Laurenceb: I've gone that route before, with 1msps sensors with great success
2018-02-01T22:18:43 < Laurenceb> ok cool, thanks
2018-02-01T22:30:05 < steverrrr_> that article sucked
2018-02-01T22:31:53 < karlp> bfrog: dma is, for the most part, hardware assisted memcpy()
2018-02-01T22:32:38 < karlp> the worst part of that article is that they stayed in such a job for an entire year
2018-02-01T22:32:57 < bfrog> karlp: I'm noticing that, so I mean the way I might otherwise do things would be with interrupts right, like my UART is ready to be read and I've setup an interrupt handler to be called when that happens, it seems like with DMA I might instead setup an interrupt to occur after so many bytes have been read from the UART
2018-02-01T22:33:12 < bfrog> what happens if you don't know how many bytes are to be read though?
2018-02-01T22:34:21 < karlp> two optionss, depending on applilcation, use irq for rx, dma for tx,
2018-02-01T22:34:28 < bfrog> like each uart message  goes something like 8bits of msg length followed by message, easy to do with the interrupt handler method, just accumulate the message into a buffer until we have msg len bytes, then call whatever I need to do with it
2018-02-01T22:34:30 < karlp> also, dma for rx, with a timeout
2018-02-01T22:34:53 < karlp> some applicationns have fixed message sizes though, so dma rx is perfectly reasonable too
2018-02-01T22:35:04 < bfrog> right, makes sense in those scenarios
2018-02-01T22:35:19 < bfrog> and for tx, dma always seems like it would be reasonable
2018-02-01T22:36:00 < bfrog> can you start with irq then swap to dma temporarily? or is that not worth the hassle typically
2018-02-01T22:36:17 < bfrog> like on the first byte with irq then start dma for the msg len bytes/
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2018-02-01T22:39:37 < steverrrr_> you can set DMA buffer size to 1 byte and get a interrupt on the first byte, then set DMA buffer size to the msg len
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2018-02-01T22:43:05 < kakimir> what else to do today
2018-02-01T22:44:46 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-01T22:44:49 < kakimir> good idea
2018-02-01T22:45:32 < kakimir> I need to revive the project
2018-02-01T22:48:39 < kakimir> it's in halted state
2018-02-01T22:48:56 < kakimir> I should give it final pumps
2018-02-01T22:52:35 < kakimir> time to look how horribal it was
2018-02-01T22:52:44 < kakimir> or decent
2018-02-01T22:53:10 < kakimir> a lot of hacky solutions in it
2018-02-01T22:53:57 < bfrog> steverrrr_: is that something people do commonly?
2018-02-01T22:54:19 < steverrrr_> bfrog:  i was hoping someone else would comment haha
2018-02-01T22:55:54 < bfrog> seems like it might be troublesome
2018-02-01T22:56:50 < bfrog> actually, how can you guarantee DMA isn't mucking with memory as your messing with it
2018-02-01T22:57:12 < bfrog> like uart reads some bytes to a memory addr, you get your irq, start doing stuff with that memory, more bytes come in
2018-02-01T22:57:15 < steverrrr_> to me it seems like the same thing as doing it with interrupts.  for example the TMS320 has a hardware UART buffer so its even more the same thing
2018-02-01T22:57:17 < bfrog> does dma just stop there?
2018-02-01T22:58:17 < steverrrr_> i'm going to guess that the DMA transfer complets before the next byte comes in, is that true?
2018-02-01T22:58:18 < karlp> depends how you configure it
2018-02-01T22:59:51 < steverrrr_> does STM32 have a ping pong feature or stuff like that?
2018-02-01T23:04:05 < steverrrr_> bfrog:  point being, if you have asynchrnous (ie. UART) and variable-length frames, your driver is going to have a lot of state which means it will have bugs and/or shortcomings
2018-02-01T23:04:56 < bfrog> fair nuf
2018-02-01T23:07:28 < steverrrr_> I still think it's exactly the same thing to do it in UART ISR or DMA ISR (but it's hard to be sure), but I'd say if you can do it with using only 1 ISR and not both, there will be less bugs.
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2018-02-01T23:11:09 < steverrrr_> or even better, only touch the registers in 1 of the peripherals while in the main loop; not both.
2018-02-01T23:11:49 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/9r3wi
2018-02-01T23:12:22 < steverrrr_> Rob235:  is that FreeCAD?
2018-02-01T23:12:30 < Rob235> fusion 360
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2018-02-01T23:26:33 < karlp> hrm, your 8gen talkl is makingn me think it's time to finally buy a new pc
2018-02-01T23:29:04 < karlp> assembled my current one in 2010 it seems
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2018-02-01T23:41:29 < bfrog> karlp: time to go threadrippa
2018-02-01T23:41:58 < bfrog> at least for me, if I build another desktop ever
2018-02-01T23:43:28 < Rob235> I built my last one about 3-4 years ago, I don't have a monitor for it, its a gaming htpc that I just have connected to my tv
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2018-02-01T23:45:23 < Rob235> gtx 980, 750gb samsung 850 pro ssd, some i7 quad core @ 4ghz 16gb ram
2018-02-01T23:45:51 < Steffanx> Heh. Just like upgrdman on tha couch
2018-02-01T23:46:01 < upgrdman> what?
2018-02-01T23:46:01 < Rob235> bed > couch
2018-02-01T23:46:30 < upgrdman> Rob235 must be poor. sounds like a weak pc
2018-02-01T23:46:50 < upgrdman> gtx1080, 1tb ssd, i7-6700k, 32gb    FTW
2018-02-01T23:47:00 < upgrdman> + 8tb hdd
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2018-02-01T23:47:20 < Rob235> 6700k sounds right.  the 1080 wasnt out when I got mine
2018-02-01T23:48:03 < Steffanx> "I don't have a monitor for it, its a gaming htpc that I just have connected to my tv" that upgrdman
2018-02-01T23:48:09 < Steffanx> On tha couch
2018-02-01T23:48:18 < Rob235> plus I got the hydro copper from evga because I have the hadron hydro water cooled case setup
2018-02-01T23:48:23 < Rob235> love that case, so nice and sleek
2018-02-01T23:48:33 < Rob235> small and sleek*
2018-02-01T23:48:39 < upgrdman> pic?
2018-02-01T23:49:14 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/vcllb
2018-02-01T23:50:40 < Rob235> brb dinner
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2018-02-01T23:59:34 < karlp> bfrog: ooking at an i5-8400 actuallly.
2018-02-01T23:59:39 < upgrdman> node 202 case looks better to me   http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-202
2018-02-01T23:59:43 < karlp> threadrippa looks terribly priced
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2018-02-02T00:00:20 < bfrog> karlp: why not wait til intel fixes meltdown and spectre
2018-02-02T00:00:29 < upgrdman> s/when/if
2018-02-02T00:00:32 < karlp> you think that shit actualy matters?
2018-02-02T00:00:51 < bfrog> have you tried doing anything with the patches? garbage
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2018-02-02T01:08:37 < karlp> hands up if you'd ever used gcc -USOME_DEFINE
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2018-02-02T01:15:40 < steverrrr_> karlp: no, that sounds terrible
2018-02-02T01:19:12 < karlp> appppparently, some projects use defined vs undefined, rather than defined to 1, and -U is the "only" way to use them
2018-02-02T01:19:18 < karlp> but yeah, first time I'd ever seen it.
2018-02-02T01:20:52 < steverrrr_> wat?  how there a choice?  it's a gcc flag
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2018-02-02T01:21:44 < steverrrr_> oh, is there a #ifundef or something?
2018-02-02T01:26:51 < steverrrr_> i guess if you have a rule that all #defines have to be in the build system, never in source, then it could be cool
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2018-02-02T02:41:27 < Laurenceb_> muh database
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2018-02-02T03:29:22 < Laurenceb_> muh shaker
2018-02-02T03:32:54 < Laurenceb_> loading to muh resignation
2018-02-02T03:32:58 < Laurenceb_> *leading
2018-02-02T03:37:54 < sync> http://sync-hv.de/projects/3phase_troller/stmblv4.mp4 Laurenceb_ is that acceptable performance for you?
2018-02-02T03:39:16 < dongs> is that going fwd/rev
2018-02-02T03:40:44 < sync> yes
2018-02-02T03:40:51 < sync> 8krpm between each reversal
2018-02-02T03:40:51 < R0b0t1> That's pretty good
2018-02-02T03:40:59 < R0b0t1> A lot of drivers you buy can't do that
2018-02-02T03:41:18 < Laurenceb_> woah nice
2018-02-02T03:41:42 < Laurenceb_> sync: thats reversing direction?
2018-02-02T03:41:47 < Laurenceb_> I can hear "pulsing"
2018-02-02T03:41:52 < dongs> karlp: err, i use that a lot (not with GCC tho)
2018-02-02T03:42:07 < sync> yes Laurenceb_
2018-02-02T03:42:10 < Laurenceb_> nice
2018-02-02T03:42:21 < sync> it changes dir like 5 times a sec
2018-02-02T03:42:28 < Laurenceb_> do you have datasheet for the motor?
2018-02-02T03:42:30 < dongs> #define COCKS and then #ifdef COCKS / blah and #undef COCKS for turning it off
2018-02-02T03:42:33 < sync> I could actually go faster
2018-02-02T03:42:46 < sync> no, just some random oem mitsubishi servo
2018-02-02T03:42:48 < R0b0t1> See how fast you can go with no load
2018-02-02T03:42:53 < Laurenceb_> I was looking at the super cheap leadshine kit on ebay, and a shaker was better for my characterisation tests
2018-02-02T03:43:01 < R0b0t1> I have a pair of steppers that's as large as a man's thigh
2018-02-02T03:43:04 < Laurenceb_> I need 5 to 600hz
2018-02-02T03:43:06 < R0b0t1> Always wanted to do something with them
2018-02-02T03:43:09 < sync> about 8krpm
2018-02-02T03:43:12 < Laurenceb_> at 600hz it gets tricky
2018-02-02T03:43:29 < sync> as field weakening does not work properly currently
2018-02-02T03:43:30 < Laurenceb_> the leadshine stuff could only do ~+-1.5degrees/s
2018-02-02T03:43:50 < Laurenceb_> at 650Hz
2018-02-02T03:44:02 < Laurenceb_> shaker was +-30degrees/s
2018-02-02T03:44:33 < sync> for that much performance voicecoils are the way to go
2018-02-02T03:44:36 < sync> or linear motors
2018-02-02T03:44:45 < Laurenceb_> yeah, shaker uses voicecoil
2018-02-02T03:44:47 < dongs> sync that bldc has position feedback of course rite
2018-02-02T03:44:59 < sync> yes
2018-02-02T03:45:06 < dongs> fkn cheater
2018-02-02T03:45:11 < Laurenceb_> dongs: <- what is a servomotor
2018-02-02T03:45:12 < sync> why?
2018-02-02T03:45:14 < Laurenceb_> lern to google
2018-02-02T03:45:28 < Laurenceb_> servomotors are the shit man
2018-02-02T03:45:35 < sync> like 21bit of abs position on that one iirc
2018-02-02T03:45:44 < sync> + 16 bit multiturn
2018-02-02T03:45:49 < dongs> http://www.newark.com/sanyo-denki-sanmotion/103h7123-0440/stepper-motor-2-phase/dp/25M0229 wow nice, this thing i pulled out of dotmatrix is $70 bucks
2018-02-02T03:45:51 < Laurenceb_> one of many reasons current ardutard 3d printers are shit is cuz they dont use servomotors
2018-02-02T03:46:03 < Laurenceb_> u need 3 phase
2018-02-02T03:46:09 < sync> nah
2018-02-02T03:46:18 < sync> 2 phase servos are also a thing
2018-02-02T03:46:23 < sync> just uncommon
2018-02-02T03:46:26 < Laurenceb_> oh ok I'm a noob lol
2018-02-02T03:46:40 < Laurenceb_> I thought it was a standard stepper rebranded by BS artists
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2018-02-02T03:46:50 < sync> yes and no
2018-02-02T03:46:59 < sync> steppers are actually really interesting motors
2018-02-02T03:47:33 < sync> we also developed a FOC stepper driver
2018-02-02T03:47:37 < Laurenceb_> that kickstarter project a while ago was interesting - stepper motor magnetic encoder and control board
2018-02-02T03:47:53 < Laurenceb_> it would be interesting to make a proper servomotor clone with stepper motor
2018-02-02T03:48:01 < sync> already done
2018-02-02T03:48:04 < Laurenceb_> I see Leadshine have "hydrid steppers"
2018-02-02T03:48:11 < Laurenceb_> ah ok, looks like it
2018-02-02T03:48:23 < sync> it's suprisingly annoying as your field frequency is quite high
2018-02-02T03:48:25 < dongs> http://meci.com/astrosyn-minebea-stepper-motor-model-type-23lm-c202-p5v.html this is another one
2018-02-02T03:48:29 < dongs> this was the head stepper
2018-02-02T03:48:41 < Laurenceb_> heh Leadshine hybrid steppers are even cheaper
2018-02-02T03:48:50 < sync> Laurenceb_: almost all steppers you can get are hybrid
2018-02-02T03:48:51 < Laurenceb_> I can pick up everything for <ukp80
2018-02-02T03:49:15 < Laurenceb_> sync: no ardutard 3d printer stuff uses hybrid aiui
2018-02-02T03:50:37 < sync> no, a regular stepper usually has two motors inside
2018-02-02T03:50:39 < upgrdman> arent most nema-xx steppers hybrid?
2018-02-02T03:50:46 < sync> it is very tricky magnetic design
2018-02-02T03:51:08 < Laurenceb_> ok I'm confused by terminology
2018-02-02T03:51:24 < sync> http://3l4sbp4ao2771ln0f54chhvm-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/FAQ3-stepper-motor-basics-rotor-stator-01.jpg
2018-02-02T03:51:27 < Laurenceb_> Leadshine datasheet seem to say hybrid == builtin encoder
2018-02-02T03:51:30 < sync> observe the offset poles
2018-02-02T03:51:32 < sync> yes
2018-02-02T03:51:35 < sync> but that is leadshine
2018-02-02T03:51:51 < Laurenceb_> ikr, obviously badly translated chinese
2018-02-02T03:51:53 < Laurenceb_> ok
2018-02-02T03:51:55 < sync> https://www.engineersgarage.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/Original/wysiwyg_imageupload/1/Hybrid-Motor-Rotor.jpg
2018-02-02T03:52:03 < dongs> whats leadshine
2018-02-02T03:52:10 < upgrdman> brand
2018-02-02T03:52:11 < dongs> is that better than wantaimotor
2018-02-02T03:52:17 < Laurenceb_> who knows
2018-02-02T03:52:28 < Laurenceb_> there is shittons of it on ebay at reasonable prices
2018-02-02T03:52:35 < dongs> Supreme x Nike Air Max 98 : Achat/Vente Chaussure Pas Cher En Ligne
2018-02-02T03:52:35 < dongs> www.leadshine.com/
2018-02-02T03:52:35 < dongs> Achat/Vente Chaussure Pas Cher En Ligne : Supreme x Nike Air Max 98 - Nike Femme Nike Homme Chaussures Adidas Chaussures Under Armour Chaussures Salomon Saucony Chaussure Puma Chaussures Reebok Chaussure Jordan --none--
2018-02-02T03:52:40 < dongs> looks like their site got haxed
2018-02-02T03:52:41 < Laurenceb_> just using it for reference
2018-02-02T03:52:42 < Laurenceb_> lel
2018-02-02T03:52:42 < dongs> hahaha
2018-02-02T03:52:45 < dongs> and indexed bygoogle
2018-02-02T03:52:51 < sync> rip
2018-02-02T03:52:57 < dongs> lmao front page is some sneakers sales store
2018-02-02T03:53:05 < dongs> but http://www.leadshine.com/category.aspx?type=products&category=stepper-products works
2018-02-02T03:53:17 < Laurenceb_> kek the google result
2018-02-02T03:53:22 < sync> the subpages work
2018-02-02T03:53:24 < sync> wtf
2018-02-02T03:53:25 < Laurenceb_> haxor at top and products below
2018-02-02T03:53:50 < dongs> hilarious
2018-02-02T03:54:49 < sync> only www.leadshine.com
2018-02-02T03:54:55 < sync> http://leadshine.com seems to work
2018-02-02T03:55:02 < dongs> nice
2018-02-02T03:55:03 < Laurenceb_> this sort of shit http://www.leadshine.com/producttypes.aspx?type=products&category=low-voltage-servo-products&producttype=low-voltage-ac-servo-motors
2018-02-02T03:55:11 < Laurenceb_> available all over ebay
2018-02-02T03:55:29 < Laurenceb_> dunno if it is any good but ebay reviews seem ok...
2018-02-02T03:56:11 < Laurenceb_> anyways it looks like shaker+beam is the way to go for gyro characterisation
2018-02-02T03:56:11 < sync> they work
2018-02-02T03:56:32 < Laurenceb_> beam ~100mm long hinged at one end, shaken at other
2018-02-02T03:57:10 < Laurenceb_> rate gyro in the middle then ramp frequency from 5 to 650Hz
2018-02-02T03:57:42 < dongs> wait no. $70 thing was the head stepper
2018-02-02T03:57:47 < dongs> $10 thing was the paper feeder stepper
2018-02-02T04:01:06 < Laurenceb_> woah nice reading http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/tech-articles/MS-2158.pdf
2018-02-02T04:09:49 < sync> yeah
2018-02-02T04:09:55 < sync> pretty spendy gyros tho
2018-02-02T04:11:04 < Laurenceb_> looks like a spike in the PSD plot is to be expected
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2018-02-02T04:21:59 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-W7dkwvk2I&t=2m56s retweeting
2018-02-02T04:23:56 < englishman> cool
2018-02-02T04:24:03 < englishman> that chan always has great stuff
2018-02-02T04:25:59 < dongs> whats with the chinese texttospeech with dudehands
2018-02-02T04:27:52 < englishman> hello, i am the engineer of neodentech
2018-02-02T04:28:09 < Rob235> nkie abibas
2018-02-02T04:28:38 < englishman> https://youtu.be/4P7DDSTXIQo?t=12s
2018-02-02T04:29:00 < dongs> same dude
2018-02-02T04:29:10 < englishman> totes
2018-02-02T04:29:19 < dongs> YES WE HAVE DONE IT
2018-02-02T04:42:32 < dongs> https://gfycat.com/BoringVastArmyworm retweeting
2018-02-02T04:42:46 < dongs> or rather
2018-02-02T04:42:51 < dongs> ^ thats the owner of that jewtube channel
2018-02-02T04:46:30 < Laurenceb_> wtf dongs
2018-02-02T04:46:35 < Laurenceb_> I didnt need to see that
2018-02-02T04:46:40 < dongs> suer you did
2018-02-02T04:47:16 < MrMobius> why is it called Vast though dongs?
2018-02-02T04:48:26 < englishman> lol
2018-02-02T04:48:34 < dongs> vast dongs maybe
2018-02-02T04:49:12 < englishman> VID 20180201 213951
2018-02-02T04:49:16 < englishman> recent dong
2018-02-02T04:55:59 < Rob235> those screw 'holes' you melt into 3d prints are amazing
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2018-02-02T04:58:33 < Rob235> https://www.ebay.com/itm/initeq-qty-20-m3-0-5-threaded-heat-set-inserts-for-3d-printing-/232649866085
2018-02-02T04:58:34 < Rob235> those things
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2018-02-02T05:09:46 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/HlvNIkn.jpg
2018-02-02T05:35:04 < branjb> Otherlife is a pretty decent scifi movie
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2018-02-02T10:08:35 < Steffanx> Behave crt. Behave.
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2018-02-02T10:16:39 < kakimir> pump is here
2018-02-02T10:18:15 < kakimir> make pump great again
2018-02-02T10:18:25 < kakimir> n
2018-02-02T10:18:30 < kakimir> future leds
2018-02-02T10:18:42 < kakimir> much
2018-02-02T10:18:57 < kakimir> work interesting stuffs related to.. inductors
2018-02-02T10:19:13 < kakimir> not beefy ones thought
2018-02-02T10:19:17 < kakimir> though
2018-02-02T10:20:12 < kakimir> also leds
2018-02-02T10:23:46 < kakimir> nopes
2018-02-02T10:23:56 < kakimir> what should I buy?
2018-02-02T10:25:14 < dongs> ill sell you some pink leds
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2018-02-02T10:25:29 < zyp> pink leds are very kawaii
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2018-02-02T10:39:01 < Steffanx> I quote some unknown ##stm32er: "Pink LEDs do not exist"
2018-02-02T10:39:28 < dongs> wat, gtfo
2018-02-02T10:39:35 < dongs> i have them in 0603 and 0805
2018-02-02T10:39:39 < dongs> they most definiely do exist
2018-02-02T10:40:44 < Steffanx> It was about pink scientifically being not-existent. Must have been a smart arse ##stm32 like BrainDamage
2018-02-02T10:41:39 < Steffanx> Wouldve grepped the logs if i were more bored
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2018-02-02T10:44:35 < Steffanx> 🧠 === ?
2018-02-02T10:44:50 < kakimir> I need high side switching for 5v
2018-02-02T10:44:58 < kakimir> controlled by mcu
2018-02-02T10:45:17 < kakimir> simple power switch for accesory stuff
2018-02-02T10:45:35 < kakimir> it needs to be small and cheap and have really low power consumption
2018-02-02T10:46:16 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-02T10:46:56 < kakimir> I rather not have 2 sot23 fets
2018-02-02T10:47:17 < kakimir> I don't know man
2018-02-02T10:47:24 < kakimir> it's blah
2018-02-02T10:47:40 < qyx> there are such switches
2018-02-02T10:47:58 < kakimir> I mean circuit where there is low side nfet driving pfet gate down
2018-02-02T10:47:59 < qyx> also, one p-fet and 5V tolerant open-drain pin
2018-02-02T10:48:15 < qyx> with resistor
2018-02-02T10:48:24 < kakimir> qyx, sweet. I don't have any to my knowledge
2018-02-02T10:48:41 < qyx> and do you have any high side switches to your knowledge?
2018-02-02T10:48:58 < kakimir> I have ones that do like 30Amps
2018-02-02T10:49:04 < kakimir> that is a bit overkill
2018-02-02T10:49:44 < kakimir> recommend a paste
2018-02-02T10:49:50 < kakimir> I have a freezer
2018-02-02T10:50:13 < qyx> sounds like
2018-02-02T10:50:24 < qyx> recommend a car, I have a gas
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2018-02-02T10:50:47 < kakimir> another option is to have integrated booster that does 3v3 -> 5v
2018-02-02T10:51:19 < kakimir> that is as cheap as having ldo for 5v -> 3v3 and power switch to mid voltage stuffs
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2018-02-02T10:51:40 < kakimir> crt, gattling gun
2018-02-02T10:52:09 < kakimir> point at the door and *brrrrrrr*
2018-02-02T10:52:11 < kakimir> it sings
2018-02-02T10:52:35 < kakimir> you might need a hydraulic gimbal for it
2018-02-02T10:52:57 < qyx> did you try googling it? devices like tps2065 are available
2018-02-02T10:53:46 < kakimir> that is overkill for my need
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2018-02-02T10:53:57 < kakimir> I need just some few dozens of milliamps
2018-02-02T10:54:14 < kakimir> and my VIN->5V ldo actually does only 300mA so
2018-02-02T10:54:47 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-02T10:54:54 < kakimir> lets jizz
2018-02-02T10:55:37 < kakimir> time to pump coffevee
2018-02-02T10:55:52 < kakimir> coffevines
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2018-02-02T11:31:39 < stvn> i think steffan is in bed
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2018-02-02T12:51:20 < Steffanx> Wut stvn ?
2018-02-02T12:51:24 < Steffanx> Its 11.51
2018-02-02T12:51:38 < stvn> hi sir
2018-02-02T12:52:03 < jpa-> i'd be in bed if i were stvn 
2018-02-02T12:52:33 < stvn> hi jpa-
2018-02-02T12:52:38 < jpa-> hello
2018-02-02T12:52:42 < stvn> you still a free lancer?
2018-02-02T12:53:13 < jpa-> boundlancer
2018-02-02T12:53:35 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-02T13:01:38 < stvn> hmmmmmm
2018-02-02T13:01:43 < stvn> what does that entail
2018-02-02T13:02:05 < zyp> bondage
2018-02-02T13:02:15 < stvn> oh
2018-02-02T13:02:21 < stvn> i didn't know this was a kink forum
2018-02-02T13:03:16 < stvn> i'm still adjusting to the idea of being employed
2018-02-02T13:07:09 < stvn> crazy
2018-02-02T13:08:27 < jadew> just sold something for the first time on ebay
2018-02-02T13:08:37 < jadew> Estimated funds availability
2018-02-02T13:08:37 < jadew> December 31, 1969
2018-02-02T13:09:16 < jadew> I guess I'll have to call the doc and go back to unix time 0
2018-02-02T13:09:30 < jadew> 0 - 1
2018-02-02T13:09:58 < jadew> or maybe I can claim interrest
2018-02-02T13:10:13 < jadew> and adjustment for inflation
2018-02-02T13:13:39 < zyp> I also sold some shit on ebay for the first time last week
2018-02-02T13:14:20 < dongs> for the first time in a week or for the first time period
2018-02-02T13:14:26 < zyp> the latter
2018-02-02T13:14:39 < zyp> all prior ebay experience have been buying
2018-02-02T13:14:50 < dongs> i sold my xps15 for 1.2k or so few weeks ago as well
2018-02-02T13:14:58 < dongs> went surprisingly well
2018-02-02T13:14:59 < jadew> same here, for some reason it's a hard step to make
2018-02-02T13:16:03 < Steffanx> Http://time.is/australia stvn
2018-02-02T13:16:10 < stvn> yeah i had that ebay experinece
2018-02-02T13:16:19 < stvn> i fucking wanted that money for heroin
2018-02-02T13:16:23 < stvn> had to steal a car instead
2018-02-02T13:16:27 < stvn> sheesh
2018-02-02T13:16:28 < Steffanx> Its not bed time yet there, jpa-
2018-02-02T13:16:29 < stvn> hi Steffanx
2018-02-02T13:16:39 < zyp> I noticed that those "100 trillion dollar" zimdollar bills is actually worth something now
2018-02-02T13:16:57 < jadew> 10c?
2018-02-02T13:17:02 < Steffanx> I bet stvn cant sleep anyway. He is so excited because i shipped waffles
2018-02-02T13:17:15 < zyp> so I dug up some that I paid like $20 for six years ago, put them up for auction, got $400 for them
2018-02-02T13:17:17 < stvn> i am sir
2018-02-02T13:17:29 < jadew> zyp, nice
2018-02-02T13:18:26 < jadew> zyp, it's probably because their money have gone extinct
2018-02-02T13:18:41 < zyp> just luck that I didn't throw them away when I moved a couple of years ago
2018-02-02T13:18:44 < jadew> isn't zimbabwe in serious trouble?
2018-02-02T13:19:03 < stvn> anyfuckingway
2018-02-02T13:19:09 < stvn> are IGBTs out of fashion?
2018-02-02T13:19:31 < stvn> i want to throw together a 2kW LLC
2018-02-02T13:19:57 < zyp> dunno, I think my car has some decent IGBTs
2018-02-02T13:20:08 < zyp> but it might be a different transistor tech, idk
2018-02-02T13:20:35 < stvn> think soft switching at 150khz
2018-02-02T13:27:17 < stvn> thanks
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2018-02-02T14:09:38 < kakimir> in china sourced pcb product how much difference it makes to add copper thickness
2018-02-02T14:09:40 < kakimir> ?
2018-02-02T14:09:54 < zyp> 3
2018-02-02T14:10:03 < kakimir> thanksl!1
2018-02-02T14:10:51 < BrainDamage> see the paper about flat is justic vs thicc
2018-02-02T14:19:33 < BrainDamage> btw Steffanx, if i am a smart arse, then you're a drug dealer
2018-02-02T14:30:16 < Laurenceb> thicc?
2018-02-02T14:30:25 < Laurenceb> 4chan is leaking
2018-02-02T14:30:59 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb: i assume you missed https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322530755_Analysis_and_Qualitative_Effects_of_Large_Breasts_on_Aerodynamic_Performance_and_Wake_of_a_Miss_Kobayashi%27s_Dragon_Maid_Character?channel=doi&linkId=5a5ef35a458515c03ee11245&showFulltext=true
2018-02-02T14:31:13 < Laurenceb> oh wow
2018-02-02T14:31:16 < Laurenceb> this looks good
2018-02-02T14:32:15 < Laurenceb> "The present results are expected to provide useful information on the validity of the statement, "Flat is Justice" in terms of an aerodynamic standpoint"
2018-02-02T14:32:19 < Laurenceb> WEW
2018-02-02T14:33:01 < Laurenceb> oh my god figure 1
2018-02-02T14:34:15 < Laurenceb> >entire project can be downloaded from : mega link
2018-02-02T14:34:18 < Laurenceb> accurate
2018-02-02T14:34:46 < BrainDamage> well, it's personal research, would it be better if it was an .edu link?
2018-02-02T14:35:54 < Laurenceb> "Stemming from certain internet communities and pertinent to the current era comes the succinct state-ment, “Flat is Justice”"
2018-02-02T14:36:04 < Laurenceb> is dat some shoehorned sjw?
2018-02-02T14:36:15 < Laurenceb> this has everything
2018-02-02T14:39:11 < stvn> hu
2018-02-02T14:39:40 < stvn> hi
2018-02-02T14:42:03 < dongs> what the shit
2018-02-02T14:44:29 < stvn> you've really entered the pit
2018-02-02T14:44:33 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb: the conclusions are the best part
2018-02-02T14:49:22 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/778d5d219c/81317.png
2018-02-02T14:49:29 < Steffanx> Do you consider stroop waffles a drug, BrainDamage ?
2018-02-02T14:49:37 < Laurenceb> >uk plug
2018-02-02T14:49:40 < Laurenceb> accurate
2018-02-02T14:49:53 < stvn> lel
2018-02-02T14:50:07 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: you're a sugar dealer
2018-02-02T14:50:11 < Steffanx> And now you force me to look into the logs to find the smart arse, BrainDamage
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2018-02-02T14:50:52 < BrainDamage> iirc it was me, but i wasn't serious, i wanted to see if someone would call me on my shit
2018-02-02T14:51:31 < stvn> hi
2018-02-02T14:51:57 < stvn> i just take it as fact when BrainDamage says it
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2018-02-02T14:54:22 < Steffanx> Im glad i wasnt too serious either when i called you a smart arse BrainDamage. Or maybe i was. You tend to act smart. And a bit joky => smart arse
2018-02-02T14:54:42 < Laurenceb> I like dis https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/electrical-installation-tester-accessories/6192638/
2018-02-02T14:55:00 < Laurenceb> needs croc clip leads
2018-02-02T14:55:13 < zyp> not to be used for any other purpose
2018-02-02T15:11:01 < Laurenceb> http://www.datamodel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/DBDesignAdaptor.jpg
2018-02-02T15:11:05 < Laurenceb> accrurate
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2018-02-02T15:20:47 < polymorph> hi
2018-02-02T15:21:51 < polymorph> was plasmaexplosion welding some stuff
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2018-02-02T15:39:54 < polymorph> heehehe i have created 2 multimeter measurement attachments   One is what i call vampire, it is a plastic clip that i have integrated a supersharp stainless steel needle, it pierces cables' insulation when it latches on, the other is just a standard measurement tip with a supersharp stainless steel needle, but it has a removable plastic protector cup too.
2018-02-02T15:40:11 < polymorph> no more damn how i measure on this fkin cable, the stainless steel needle easily pierces through oxide layers too
2018-02-02T15:45:14 < englishman> kakimir: i got some china quotes for 4oz pcb and ended up going with domestic production because it just wasn't worth it
2018-02-02T15:50:16 < Laurenceb> should have gone with pcbtrain
2018-02-02T15:50:29 < Laurenceb> pcb now comes with free pubic hair and crisps
2018-02-02T15:50:46 < dongs> mantrain
2018-02-02T15:51:01 < Laurenceb> thats not solder stop resin...
2018-02-02T15:52:39 < polymorph> haha Laurenceb
2018-02-02T15:53:06 < Laurenceb> literally every pcbtrain board has had something weird about it
2018-02-02T15:53:25 < Laurenceb> one had a pube embedded in the copper
2018-02-02T15:53:42 < polymorph> haha
2018-02-02T15:53:47 < Laurenceb> and shorting out two traces, I managed to fix it with a 50v capacitor bank
2018-02-02T15:53:51 < polymorph> got there prior lamination the
2018-02-02T15:53:59 < polymorph> n
2018-02-02T15:54:15 < Laurenceb> I imagine the workers lining up and fapping into the vat
2018-02-02T15:54:21 < polymorph> prob
2018-02-02T15:54:27 < Laurenceb> then pouring crisps in
2018-02-02T15:54:46 < polymorph> they might even get dick stuck in the acid bath
2018-02-02T15:55:13 < kakimir> I need to butt some 50Amps in a trace
2018-02-02T15:55:23 < kakimir> constant
2018-02-02T15:55:27 < polymorph> thy fap and eat crisps while making pcbs, you wouldn't ?
2018-02-02T15:55:49 < kakimir> first it's 10mm wide but will be wider probably
2018-02-02T15:56:06 < Laurenceb> kakimir: coat it with solder?
2018-02-02T15:56:17 < polymorph> Laurenceb: half solution
2018-02-02T15:56:22 < kakimir> Laurenceb, totally unpopulated flush backside
2018-02-02T15:56:35 < Laurenceb> ah
2018-02-02T15:56:42 < kakimir> it will be bolted to aluminum bar
2018-02-02T15:56:55 < kakimir> switching 50amps will produce heat
2018-02-02T15:57:03 < polymorph> kakimir: grab a piece of solder strip and use it as jumper, vertically
2018-02-02T15:57:22 < polymorph> i mean copper strip
2018-02-02T15:57:27 < kakimir> this is commercial desing
2018-02-02T15:57:39 < polymorph> kakimir: use commercial copper strip then
2018-02-02T15:57:40 < kakimir> and upper side doesn't really have room for such
2018-02-02T15:57:56 < polymorph> kakimir: you will need carbon nanotube braid then
2018-02-02T15:58:00 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-02T15:59:32 < polymorph> wondering if i can plasmaweld a screw to a lithium battery
2018-02-02T16:00:04 < kakimir> use tig
2018-02-02T16:00:15 < polymorph> tightening it would ruin the batt though
2018-02-02T16:00:18 < polymorph> ;/
2018-02-02T16:00:24 < kakimir> trick is to first put the cell in the freezer
2018-02-02T16:00:38 < polymorph> neat trick :)
2018-02-02T16:00:39 < kakimir> so it provides some cooling for a period
2018-02-02T16:01:11 < polymorph> simple tigspot then?
2018-02-02T16:02:10 < polymorph> what is the best connection option for lithium batteries in your opinion?
2018-02-02T16:03:31 < polymorph> if i run through a copper or chromium strip and drill a hole in it then i con screw cables on
2018-02-02T16:03:49 < polymorph> *can
2018-02-02T16:04:25 < tomeaton17> If anybody wants their daily dose of cringe see my coworkers repo https://i.imgur.com/kgL4hJr.png
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2018-02-02T16:17:56 < Laurenceb> I see no cringew
2018-02-02T16:19:34 < kakimir> polymorph, spot welding is the shiet
2018-02-02T16:20:56 < polymorph> kakimir: ya :>
2018-02-02T16:21:33 < kakimir> not workshop type of spot welding
2018-02-02T16:21:48 < kakimir> but small energy type of thing
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2018-02-02T16:21:59 < kakimir> controlled amount of energy
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2018-02-02T16:22:33 < kakimir> more type of jewlery tool than workshop tool
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2018-02-02T16:24:45 < polymorph> declassified training videos   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypBfHbf9c98&list=PLG8HEGw_rTl8AabxWdIiTn5zkXQWYyKre&index=10
2018-02-02T16:27:35 < polymorph> kakimir: i was testing one today
2018-02-02T16:27:47 < tomeaton17> The cringe is that the name of the file is the date which it was saved, and they are all versions of the same file
2018-02-02T16:28:25 < polymorph> i don't even know the peak power it does, can be upto 400kW pk for a short time
2018-02-02T16:28:33 < polymorph> it creates a little explosion
2018-02-02T16:34:10 < polymorph> kakimir: already made some "jewelry" :)
2018-02-02T16:34:51 < polymorph> soon i will test if i can weld crni heating wire to copper
2018-02-02T17:05:25 < kakimir> polypump
2018-02-02T17:10:38 < tomeaton17> How do I tell my boss that I am not going to finish the pcb by chinese new year
2018-02-02T17:11:28 < englishman> no pcb takes more than a week
2018-02-02T17:11:51 < kakimir> I think if I do work tommorow the pcb is ready
2018-02-02T17:11:54 < kakimir> and holy shit
2018-02-02T17:12:00 < kakimir> tomeaton17, thanks for heads up
2018-02-02T17:12:22 < kakimir> everybody is talking about chinese new year
2018-02-02T17:12:32 < kakimir> I'm like.. doesn't affect me
2018-02-02T17:13:08 < kakimir> product development and orders stall for a month
2018-02-02T17:14:04 < qyx> englishman: meh, the pre-thinking phase may take
2018-02-02T17:14:19 < kakimir> tell me fast chinesium pcb fab?
2018-02-02T17:14:24 < kakimir> little more expensive is ok
2018-02-02T17:14:38 < dongs> china is arlready in shutdown mode
2018-02-02T17:14:40 < dongs> for new years
2018-02-02T17:14:43 < dongs> good luck getting anything fast
2018-02-02T17:14:44 < kakimir> or should I just go with elecrow
2018-02-02T17:14:58 < kakimir> okay maybe we can try european supplier
2018-02-02T17:15:08 < kakimir> concider it as a test
2018-02-02T17:17:29 < Thorn> https://i.imgur.com/mlUgSNU.png
2018-02-02T17:18:36 < tomeaton17> Yeah I have been asked to reverse engineer some crappy raspberry pi hat for a door system. Going to take ages making a schematic for it, pcb shouldnt take too long.
2018-02-02T17:18:55 < qyx> our local supplier was ok, ~5 days and ~100€ for cca 200x300mm panel
2018-02-02T17:19:10 < dongs> looks like allpcb screenshot
2018-02-02T17:19:22 < tomeaton17> I have always used seeedstudio, came in 4 days last time but the silkscreen is garbage
2018-02-02T17:19:26 < Thorn> pcbway
2018-02-02T17:19:35 < dongs> shitstudio
2018-02-02T17:19:53 < c10ud> qyx, local as in..?
2018-02-02T17:20:17 < qyx> .sk, central-eastern eu
2018-02-02T17:20:44 < c10ud> yeah, I know slovakia
2018-02-02T17:20:48 < qyx> \o/
2018-02-02T17:21:07 < branjb> yeah dongs this is the worst month ever
2018-02-02T17:21:08 < c10ud> :)
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2018-02-02T17:21:12 < branjb> chinese new years is bs
2018-02-02T17:21:25 < tomeaton17> Yes how dare they get a break
2018-02-02T17:21:36 < c10ud> I usually get them from dirtypcbs but having an .eu supplier with chinese-like prices would be great
2018-02-02T17:21:52 < c10ud> qyx, can you share your supplier, if he ships in eu?(it)
2018-02-02T17:24:09 < kakimir> our china guy was still at work like an hour ago
2018-02-02T17:24:15 < Thorn> why did they feel the need to release 39 different part #s https://www.diodes.com/products/analog/audio/
2018-02-02T17:24:16 < kakimir> mad
2018-02-02T17:24:39 < tomeaton17> yeah seeed is going up till 11th
2018-02-02T17:25:50 < kakimir> where do you order your work proto shiets?
2018-02-02T17:26:09 < Laurenceb> pcbtrain, where else
2018-02-02T17:26:52 < branjb> does englishman do pcb fab yet?
2018-02-02T17:27:01 < englishman> no but i have a few local places
2018-02-02T17:27:18 < englishman> it is not someting to diy
2018-02-02T17:28:02 < branjb> how hard can it be, just route and glew some pieces together
2018-02-02T17:28:06 < branjb> glue
2018-02-02T17:28:08 < englishman> mhm
2018-02-02T17:28:13 < englishman> first
2018-02-02T17:28:16 < englishman> routed pcb?
2018-02-02T17:28:21 < englishman> what is this 1975
2018-02-02T17:28:37 < branjb> i even saw some 3D printer, cnc, and pcb router all in ones on kickstarter recently
2018-02-02T17:28:53 < englishman> get one. all you need to build your own samsung galaxy S9
2018-02-02T17:28:54 < branjb> haha
2018-02-02T17:29:14 < branjb> I've used my cnc router to do prototype 1 layer boards before
2018-02-02T17:29:52 < branjb> it can do 12 mil traces decently
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2018-02-02T17:37:28 < Lux> basically just a waste of time
2018-02-02T17:37:31 < Lux> been there done that
2018-02-02T17:41:32 < Lux> with chinese new year coming up I heard a rumor, that it's quite common for factory workers to just quit after and go to another factory... leading to manufacturers not being able to keep up for future orders
2018-02-02T17:41:37 < Lux> is that really how it is ?
2018-02-02T17:42:00 < day> 12mil precision sucks. and precision is only a fraction of the problems you need to solve
2018-02-02T17:42:57 < branjb> good enough for testing shit in a pinch
2018-02-02T17:44:53 < karlp> meh, we did it too, it was ... ok, but I think it it was better in the end to actually just review the pcb more
2018-02-02T17:52:33 < dongs> > 12 mil
2018-02-02T17:52:37 < dongs> fucking useless
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2018-02-02T17:54:51 < Laurenceb> projection
2018-02-02T17:59:32 < Rob235> what are ribbon cables called? not the individual wire ones but kinda like paper? can you get generic ones?
2018-02-02T18:00:14 < Rob235> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-pcs-FFC-FPC-40-pin-0-5mm-Pitch-Ribbon-Flat-Cable-Wire-ZIF-HDD-25cm-Long-New/201415110066?epid=886810043&hash=item2ee546adb2:g:MIIAAOxy~dNTIUup
2018-02-02T18:00:19 < Laurenceb> FFC
2018-02-02T18:00:20 < Rob235> there we go, something like that
2018-02-02T18:00:35 < Rob235> thanks
2018-02-02T18:06:16 < Laurenceb> or seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedd and places do flexi pocb cheaply now
2018-02-02T18:06:34  * Laurenceb paid 200euros for some flexi a few years ago O_o
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2018-02-02T18:09:22 < Rob235> hmm how do I know how much current this servo will use?
2018-02-02T18:09:27 < Rob235> useless datasheet
2018-02-02T18:15:23 < Rob235> a few hundred mA for a micro sound right?
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2018-02-02T18:39:38 < jadew> damn, I replaced my 22 W circular CCFL tube in the lamp with a 11W led one
2018-02-02T18:39:48 < jadew> this thing is bright!
2018-02-02T18:40:14 < jadew> things on my desk look different
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2018-02-02T18:43:35 < jadew> it puts to shame the lamp that used to put my old lamp to shame
2018-02-02T18:45:47 < jadew> kinda wish it had a dimmer
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2018-02-02T19:33:00 < Rob235> jesus, Ive been looking at connectors for 90 minutes and I have no idea what I should get
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2018-02-02T19:42:41 < polymorph> jadew: only photographing needs a circular light :) and maybe a huge magnifier?
2018-02-02T19:43:36 < polymorph> [17:44] <jadew> kinda wish it had a dimmer - delta sigma pwm? :>
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2018-02-02T19:44:36 < jadew> polymorph, I don't think it would work well with its SMPS
2018-02-02T19:44:49 < jadew> I'd probably have to break it apart
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2018-02-02T19:49:23 < polymorph> jadew: can you simply hack the feedback loop then?
2018-02-02T19:49:36 < jadew> good ideal
2018-02-02T19:49:38 < jadew> *idea
2018-02-02T19:49:45 < jadew> yeah, I'll look into that
2018-02-02T19:49:54 < polymorph> it should sense the current
2018-02-02T19:49:58 < jadew> yeah
2018-02-02T19:50:10 < polymorph> but the simplest ones dont...
2018-02-02T19:50:27 < polymorph> a flyback has inherent power limit
2018-02-02T19:53:38 < jadew> if I end up opening it up, I can just make another power supply
2018-02-02T19:53:46 < jadew> but I'd rather not
2018-02-02T19:54:41 < jadew> hmm, it had 4 wires
2018-02-02T19:54:59 < jadew> I tied two together
2018-02-02T19:55:00 < polymorph> ya
2018-02-02T19:55:13 < jadew> and they were not internally connected
2018-02-02T19:55:23 < jadew> I wonder if they power two different rows of LEDs?
2018-02-02T19:55:38 < jadew> I could just add a second switch
2018-02-02T19:55:43 < jadew> to have 1/2 the power
2018-02-02T19:55:51 < polymorph> well anyway the output should be a current or power limited energy source
2018-02-02T19:56:01 < polymorph> if it is connected to leds
2018-02-02T19:56:20 < jadew> it's probably going to be current and they're all in series
2018-02-02T19:56:28 < jadew> no?
2018-02-02T19:58:29 < polymorph> yes
2018-02-02T19:58:44 < polymorph> only cheapest chinese crap is power limited
2018-02-02T19:59:21 < polymorph> you take off 1 series led and the whole thing catches on fire
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2018-02-02T20:25:24 < mondesser> Hey :) Does anyone have experience with writing an usb-midi-device on stm32f103c8 using HAL?
2018-02-02T20:25:24 < mondesser> I've got it working but got a really strange problem: I cannot send more than 8 byte at a time, if I send more bytes USBD_LL_Transmit still returns OK but I get nothing on the receiving side. If I send 8 or less everything works fine.  This is not a problem on the receiving side, I have a working implementation using libopencm3 that can send the full 0x40 bytes without problems.
2018-02-02T20:28:26 < Laurenceb> http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf
2018-02-02T20:28:34 < Laurenceb> lol server is dead
2018-02-02T20:29:01 < Laurenceb> maybe they stored the pdf data in a database
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2018-02-02T20:34:38 < polymorph> my latest creation: The poker and the vampire   https://ibb.co/cDbZER   https://ibb.co/gdw1uR   https://ibb.co/irQGTm   https://ibb.co/ncV5M6
2018-02-02T20:36:58 < Laurenceb> wtf is this pdf
2018-02-02T20:37:07 < Laurenceb> reads like some batshit soap opera
2018-02-02T20:37:27 < Laurenceb> glad I dont work in politics
2018-02-02T20:40:45 < ffffffffffffffff> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26113972_766664100199724_790674074978863982_n.jpg?oh=806322417b76ea3c7d9cc68c60edbf3f&oe=5ADD857B
2018-02-02T20:41:31 < Steffann> Welcome ffffffffffffffff.
2018-02-02T20:41:46 < ffffffffffffffff> no
2018-02-02T20:42:07 < polymorph> ffffffffffffffff: wrong, the third ring is gnd on the 4 ring jack
2018-02-02T20:42:18 < polymorph> fourth ring is mic.
2018-02-02T20:42:55 < upgrdman> why so many f's
2018-02-02T20:42:57 < ffffffffffffffff> jadew where do I get an LED ring light
2018-02-02T20:42:58 < upgrdman> ffs man
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2018-02-02T20:46:05 < Steffann> Unless it's not apple but Samsung/HTC/whatever polymorph. Different standards much
2018-02-02T20:46:18 < jadew> ffffffffffffffff, aliexpress
2018-02-02T20:46:32 < polymorph> Steffann: i thought is is universal.
2018-02-02T20:46:57 < polymorph> Steffann: anyway makes sense, the ground separates the speakers from microphone signal
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2018-02-02T20:47:02 < Steffann> OMTP VS CTIA
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2018-02-02T20:57:48 < ffffffffffffffff> jadew, what do I search for
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2018-02-02T21:10:47 < jadew> ffffffffffffffff, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PSE-8-inch-Circular-T9-LED-light-replace-fluorescent-FC8T9-bulb-directly-without-rewiring/32813612836.html
2018-02-02T21:11:29 < jadew> night
2018-02-02T21:15:26 < ffffffffffffffff> thx
2018-02-02T21:16:19 < ffffffffffffffff> I think I will get one of these instead https://www.aliexpress.com/item/6W-12W-15W-18W-24W-30W-36W-LED-Ring-PANEL-Circle-Light-AC220V-240V-SMD-5730/32767206867.html
2018-02-02T21:16:27 < ffffffffffffffff> $7 shipped and a few more watts
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2018-02-02T21:26:38 < Thorn> why does ##stm32 hate SPX3819?
2018-02-02T21:27:37 < branjb> should I use nails or screws as fasteners on a wooden work table?
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2018-02-02T21:34:22 < branjb> hmm
2018-02-02T21:34:41 < branjb> trying to build this
2018-02-02T21:34:42 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/nl7lY
2018-02-02T21:34:51 < branjb> yeah that's a good point
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2018-02-02T21:35:03 < branjb> but do I need to worry about screw integrity with a load on it?
2018-02-02T21:35:18 < branjb> will have about 100-200 lbs sitting on the table
2018-02-02T21:36:12 < branjb> I do/will
2018-02-02T21:37:01 < branjb> I should probably read up on woodworking, I guess there is more to it than cut wood in right shape and connect together
2018-02-02T21:37:55 < branjb> great
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2018-02-02T21:39:07 < branjb> those corner clamps look useful
2018-02-02T21:39:21 < branjb> this desk is to hold a CNC router
2018-02-02T21:39:32 < branjb> not gonna be sitting at it really
2018-02-02T21:41:39 < branjb> did you finish it with anything?
2018-02-02T21:42:51 < branjb> haha
2018-02-02T21:42:54 < ffffffffffffffff> tru
2018-02-02T21:44:32 < branjb> yeah if it's not a hassle
2018-02-02T21:44:48 < ffffffffffffffff> I was listening to a deposition by this 12 year old romanian kid that ended up in temporary foster care, he was explaining how he took his parents van and drove it because he gave no fucks and that is also why he smashed it into a store, and then he proceeded to tell us that this is normal in romania and that he wants to go back there and that america is fucked
2018-02-02T21:50:58 < polymorph> i gave 2$ for a D16015AR, was it worth it?
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2018-02-02T21:58:42 < aandrew> yes
2018-02-02T21:58:53 < aandrew> my wife was able to translate whatever it was borat's wife/sister was screaming at him
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2018-02-02T22:35:02 < MrMobius> I thought this channel was for people without wives
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2018-02-02T22:55:44 < karlp> Thorn: we hate spx3819 because of it's attrocious ground current
2018-02-02T22:56:53 < englishman> Thorn: nothing wrong with spx3819
2018-02-02T22:57:00 < englishman> lol
2018-02-02T22:57:03 < englishman> i was scrolled up
2018-02-02T22:57:14 < englishman> spx3819 is awesome
2018-02-02T22:57:31 < englishman> power is cheap
2018-02-02T22:58:08 < englishman> sure theres better stuff but it's like 4c
2018-02-02T22:58:18 < karlp> sure, for some peoplle
2018-02-02T22:58:28 < Thorn> I'm doing a non-battery-powered device so I guess it's ok
2018-02-02T22:58:37 < karlp> for other people, it's like 40c, and there's other options even in zypsnips that are similary priced
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2018-02-02T22:59:08 < englishman> well it is also standard footprint
2018-02-02T22:59:23 < karlp> yes, just like allll the others in the zypsnips thing
2018-02-02T22:59:26 < englishman> yse
2018-02-02T22:59:29 < karlp> that's a requirement for listing :)
2018-02-02T22:59:37 < Thorn> https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Low-Dropout-Regulators-LDO_EXAR_SPX3819M5-L-3-3-TR_SPX3819M5-L-3-3-TR_C9055.html
2018-02-02T22:59:47 < Thorn> $0.15 small qty
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2018-02-02T23:15:25 < MrMobius> the stm32price thing is neat
2018-02-02T23:15:36 < MrMobius> dunno why he calls his site Essentials Crap though
2018-02-02T23:16:15 < Steffanx> Tried to read the title/header on jpa-'s website mr MrMobius?
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2018-02-02T23:19:04 < zyp> karlp, if you need more tv series to watch, Altered Carbon looks pretty good
2018-02-02T23:19:12 < zyp> first two episodes are as good as the books at least
2018-02-02T23:20:03 < Steffanx> I better give it a try then
2018-02-02T23:21:46 < MrMobius> Steffanx: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/33/55/97/335597f9cbe40557cd8afecfb599dbab--hub-caps-craft-ideas.jpg
2018-02-02T23:21:52 < MrMobius> hubcapsify?
2018-02-02T23:23:01 < Steffanx> hubcrapsify.
2018-02-02T23:25:20 < zyp> Steffanx, read the books?
2018-02-02T23:26:12 < qyx> anyone seen this https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/ixys/KXOB22-12X1F/KXOB22-12X1F-ND/4840079
2018-02-02T23:26:15 < qyx> in china?
2018-02-02T23:26:46 < englishman> cool
2018-02-02T23:27:24 < Steffanx> nope zyp.
2018-02-02T23:28:38 < zyp> they're good too
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2018-02-02T23:29:51 < Steffanx> Sadly i hardly read anymore nowadays
2018-02-02T23:30:01 < Thorn> is there an English dub of Okkupert?
2018-02-02T23:30:16 < zyp> Steffanx, shame, you should get back into it
2018-02-02T23:32:40 < Thorn> or subtitles
2018-02-02T23:34:44 < polymorph> Hello
2018-02-02T23:35:30 < Steffanx> "In the near future, Norway is occupied by Russia on behalf of the European Union" heh Thorn :D
2018-02-02T23:35:54 < Thorn> that's why I wanted to see it
2018-02-02T23:36:14 < zyp> heh, hadn't even heard about it
2018-02-02T23:36:28 < Thorn> ... or German
2018-02-02T23:36:50 < Steffanx> Better get it with sub titles. Imho voice over/dubs tend to ruine stuff. Except for jappy anime maybe ( which i dont watch ).
2018-02-02T23:37:02 < zyp> «The series has been added to the Netflix streaming service in multiple countries as of 20 January 2016.»
2018-02-02T23:37:43 < zyp> heh, it's not available on netflix for me
2018-02-02T23:38:18 < Steffanx> lol it is for me.
2018-02-02T23:38:44 < zyp> seems like one of the norwegian tv channels has the exclusive right to it in norway or some shit
2018-02-02T23:38:48 < polymorph> my latest creations: The poker and the vampire   https://ibb.co/cDbZER   https://ibb.co/gdw1uR   https://ibb.co/irQGTm   https://ibb.co/ncV5M6
2018-02-02T23:38:52 < Thorn> looks like I found season 1 with subs on tpb
2018-02-02T23:39:00 < Steffanx> déjà vu, polymorph
2018-02-02T23:39:16 < Steffanx> opensubtitles.org has subs
2018-02-02T23:39:29 < Steffanx> But be a good man and get netflix :P
2018-02-02T23:39:50 < polymorph> Steffanx: ya i saw you here earlier ;>
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2018-02-03T00:07:49 < karlp> zyp: heh, nice, another friendn was just recommending it :)
2018-02-03T00:08:23 < zyp> came out today so
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2018-02-03T00:08:38 < zyp> I've been waiting for it since I read the books
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2018-02-03T00:59:07 < Laurenceb_> https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/589751/fears-levenmouth-youngsters-are-getting-high-off-burning-wheelie-bins/
2018-02-03T01:00:03 < polymorph> Laurenceb_: solution: tax it
2018-02-03T01:00:36 < polymorph> then tax it again because one is never enough
2018-02-03T01:03:13 < polymorph> also put and legally require wifi enabled fire sensing devices on every trash can to contact the police
2018-02-03T01:04:26 < polymorph> and we must fly plastic fume detecting drones 24/7 with night vision to enhance security
2018-02-03T01:09:16 < BrainDamage> replace nail with needle
2018-02-03T01:09:20 < BrainDamage> inject electrons
2018-02-03T01:12:16 < polymorph> sup BrainDamage
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2018-02-03T01:14:09 < BrainDamage> broth to you too
2018-02-03T01:15:20 < polymorph> you like soup?
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2018-02-03T01:17:29 < BrainDamage> as long as it's not watery
2018-02-03T01:17:57 < Steffanx> Non-watery soups are the worst kind
2018-02-03T01:18:17 < polymorph> o you like soup without soup?
2018-02-03T01:18:22 < BrainDamage> watery as in washed out
2018-02-03T01:18:28 < BrainDamage> not watery as in water based
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2018-02-03T01:19:02 < polymorph> so alcohol instead?
2018-02-03T01:19:57 < BrainDamage> imma wat out of this convo
2018-02-03T01:20:49 < Steffanx> Oops
2018-02-03T01:21:47 < sync> replacing all of the water with ethanol sounds nice
2018-02-03T01:22:28 < Steffanx> polymorph can you try ^
2018-02-03T01:22:31 < Steffanx> ?
2018-02-03T01:22:34 < englishman> alcoholism and lunix go hand in hand
2018-02-03T01:22:44 < polymorph> i dont
2018-02-03T01:23:11 < polymorph> nah thatis win
2018-02-03T01:37:17 < tct_> people
2018-02-03T01:37:18 < tct_> hear me
2018-02-03T01:37:22 < tct_> Hellop!
2018-02-03T01:37:59 < Steffanx> Welcome
2018-02-03T01:38:51 < BrainDamage> can't hear you, try shouting louder
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2018-02-03T02:45:28 < polymorph> hmm it is said that she is 28 years of age, but she already looks 50  https://www.instagram.com/thephysicsgirl/\
2018-02-03T02:48:50 < Laurenceb_> woah is dat an attention seeker
2018-02-03T02:49:20 < Laurenceb_> wtf she literally looks older than my mum
2018-02-03T02:49:41 < Laurenceb_> but is same age as me
2018-02-03T02:50:01 < polymorph> she might actually be 50 but she is hyped by the news so she must be at most 28 ;>
2018-02-03T02:50:10 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-03T02:50:29 < Laurenceb_> I see standard "nerd" shit
2018-02-03T02:50:39 < Laurenceb_> complete lack of imagination and attention whoring
2018-02-03T02:50:45 < Laurenceb_> also >namefaggotry
2018-02-03T02:50:52 < polymorph> wat
2018-02-03T02:51:10 < Laurenceb_> she has nothing original to say
2018-02-03T02:51:31 < polymorph> shi is "yhysicsgirl" on youtube
2018-02-03T02:51:34 < polymorph> kek
2018-02-03T02:52:09 < polymorph> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABjRnSYw-4k
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2018-02-03T04:24:19 < dongs> def 50
2018-02-03T04:24:23 < dongs> old and ugly as fuck
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2018-02-03T04:44:20 < Laurenceb_> Jerri Ellsworthless also looks old now
2018-02-03T04:44:26 < Laurenceb_> as well as looking like a dude
2018-02-03T04:44:52 < Laurenceb_> and bankrupting kickstarter companies
2018-02-03T04:47:32 < dongs> "now"?
2018-02-03T04:47:42 < dongs> she has looked old for as long as i've seen that ugly cunt on news
2018-02-03T04:48:28 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-03T04:48:38 < Laurenceb_> take a seat over there
2018-02-03T04:49:28 < Laurenceb_> I think I actually got one of her products from toysr us
2018-02-03T04:49:41 < Laurenceb_> s/one/her only real product
2018-02-03T04:51:01 < Laurenceb_> that ancient game clonesole in a controller thingy
2018-02-03T04:53:23 < Laurenceb_> she probably wasnt actually involved as at least the project was completed
2018-02-03T04:56:07 < dongs> holy shit
2018-02-03T04:56:11 < dongs> found my old gobro3 in the garbage
2018-02-03T04:56:12 < dongs> trying to use it
2018-02-03T04:56:21 < dongs> i dont think they could have made the app/wifi shit any harder to use
2018-02-03T04:56:28 < dongs> it REQUIRES a password that you set DURING FIRMWARE UPDATE
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2018-02-03T04:56:31 < dongs> ???????????????
2018-02-03T04:56:42 < dongs> and to use hte fucking app or dl firmware you have to fucking "register"
2018-02-03T04:56:57 < Laurenceb_> ERROR
2018-02-03T04:57:00 < Laurenceb_> amirite?
2018-02-03T04:57:13 < Laurenceb_> GoERRORPro
2018-02-03T04:57:59 < dongs> As long as you don't get a "CAMERA UPDATE FAILED" message, your update is successful!
2018-02-03T04:58:03 < dongs> nice english
2018-02-03T04:58:05 < MrMobius> do you guys think Fran Blanche is cuter than those two?
2018-02-03T04:58:28 < dongs> no they're all fucking gross
2018-02-03T04:58:39 < dongs> females should stay the fuck out of tech
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2018-02-03T05:02:32 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJ7hA4UPTU
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2018-02-03T05:03:54 < dongs> gobro still updating itself
2018-02-03T05:03:55 < dongs> such lunix
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2018-02-03T05:05:52 < dongs> connecting to gopro sucks
2018-02-03T05:05:55 < dongs> this may tay uip to a mnute
2018-02-03T05:05:56 < dongs> how the fuck
2018-02-03T05:07:09 < dongs> wtf
2018-02-03T05:07:17 < dongs> why i cant change 720p to anything below 60fps lol
2018-02-03T05:07:22 < dongs> i dont need to waste space with 60p garbage
2018-02-03T05:07:28 < dongs> no wonder gobro is fuckign dead
2018-02-03T05:07:34 < dongs> chink trashcams have more features than this shit
2018-02-03T05:07:37 < dongs> at 1/5 the price
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2018-02-03T05:13:26 < dongs> haha
2018-02-03T05:13:38 < dongs> after i spent all this time trying to set this shit up wifecop is like wat, i cant zoom with this thing?
2018-02-03T05:13:41 < dongs> back to the garbage it goes
2018-02-03T05:14:33 < englishman> https://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/01/29/54cabb2ef547ce3c06e36e4a_image.jpg
2018-02-03T05:14:53 < dongs> is that the gorbo faggot?
2018-02-03T05:15:31 < dongs> why do all these startup faggots immediately buy retarded fuckign cars
2018-02-03T05:16:57 < englishman> i think when a surfer bro suddenly has $2b in the bank, retarded results are expected
2018-02-03T05:19:15 < MrMobius> almost looks photoshopped
2018-02-03T05:22:05 < dongs> zyp don't you have to send me micrel shit
2018-02-03T05:23:33 < dongs> oh chinagirl has them nwo
2018-02-03T05:37:27 < ffffffffffffffff> oic
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2018-02-03T06:38:58 < stvn> the jewtel
2018-02-03T06:43:21 < stvn> and nigabyte
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2018-02-03T06:46:05 < stvn> https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z370-HD3-rev-10#kf
2018-02-03T06:52:24 < stvn> fuck if i knew there was so much autistic marketing maybe i'd have opted out of the purchase lol
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2018-02-03T10:50:59 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9DEK9mNVRU bubblegrunge music times
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2018-02-03T10:57:01 < zyp> dongs, cool
2018-02-03T10:57:19 < zyp> just lemme know if there's anything else I need to source from digikey or something
2018-02-03T11:00:42 < kakimir> what are you guise working on?
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2018-02-03T12:46:08 < Steffanx> Hello. Welcome.
2018-02-03T12:47:59 < Steffanx> Go for option 2..
2018-02-03T12:48:05 < Steffanx> *item
2018-02-03T14:14:18 < polymorph> hello
2018-02-03T14:59:57 < invzim> anyone tried slot tips for soldering/desoldering 0402's?
2018-02-03T15:01:45 < invzim> my current method of solder on one pad, head solder and slide in chip, solder untacked side, then touch up first if I feel like it works fine down to 0603 but not great on 0402
2018-02-03T15:01:52 < invzim> heat
2018-02-03T15:03:09 < invzim> so was thinking more of solder on both pads, add flux, heat both pads and slide in/push down chip
2018-02-03T15:24:19 < sync> http://www.jbctools.com/pa120-a-micro-tweezers-product-49.html
2018-02-03T15:26:06 < invzim> you use them for installation?
2018-02-03T15:27:50 < sync> sometimes
2018-02-03T15:29:58 < Steffanx> oh, the base station for those tweezers is expensive, but less expensive than i expected
2018-02-03T15:31:11 < invzim> my metcal setup actually came with a talon tweezers, but haven't been using it + the fine tips seem pretty expensive
2018-02-03T15:32:47 < sync> > metcal
2018-02-03T15:37:02 < BrainDamage> methcal
2018-02-03T15:40:20 < invzim> I luv my metcal
2018-02-03T15:40:41 < invzim> heats up in no time, and no dials to fiddle with
2018-02-03T15:42:22 < sync> yeah but that is the issue
2018-02-03T15:42:26 < sync> you cannot turn it up or down
2018-02-03T15:43:04 < invzim> never had the need tbh
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2018-02-03T16:32:40 < aandrew> invzim: that's exactly solder passives... tack down one side then finish the other
2018-02-03T16:33:11 < aandrew> it works on the smaller stuff if you have either a very fast iron or a very fine tip so the heat doesn't have much time to spread and reflow the other side
2018-02-03T16:33:36 < aandrew> never could get the hang of tweezers for soldering. desoldering they're awesome
2018-02-03T16:52:21 < kakimir> what happens when you have battery pack with 18650 cells so that cells are 3P2S and you puncture one cell so that electrolytes drain out?
2018-02-03T16:52:26 < kakimir> then keep using the pack
2018-02-03T16:52:33 < kakimir> charge discharge
2018-02-03T16:52:45 < kakimir> pack has protection circuit
2018-02-03T17:04:40 < aandrew> I don't risk a house fire over something as cheap as a 3P2S pack
2018-02-03T17:05:09 < kakimir> what will happen aandrew?
2018-02-03T17:05:46 < aandrew> don't know, don't care to risk it
2018-02-03T17:06:01 < aandrew> a compromised lithium cell doesn't stay where I have valuables
2018-02-03T17:06:48 < aandrew> I know that various lithium technologies have different failure modes and some are way way way safer than others, but the fact is I can't easily tell one from another, don't know if what's on the label is actually what's in the cell and don't take the risk
2018-02-03T17:06:56 < aandrew> maybe that makes me a pussy, but that's fine by me
2018-02-03T17:07:32 < aandrew> I keep the little lipoly packs for my kid's quadrotors in a metal box, and my lipoly charging station is in the garage surrounded by cinder blocks since I don't want to sit and watch it
2018-02-03T17:09:15 < kakimir> but as soon as you buy that lipo in a commercial product you stop caring
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2018-02-03T17:14:53 < Steffanx> kakimir:  im pretty sure he will stop using it after he punctured a it.. why the hell would you keep using such pack anyway?
2018-02-03T17:15:25 < kakimir> hypothethically keep using
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2018-02-03T17:19:41 < englishman> sync>	you cannot turn it up or down
2018-02-03T17:19:46 < englishman> more like, you never need to adjust
2018-02-03T17:20:05 < englishman> invzim i also have smt tweezers but i use hotair for 0402
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2018-02-03T17:22:33 < invzim> hotair for installation?
2018-02-03T17:22:40 < englishman> yeah
2018-02-03T17:22:47 < englishman> tin the pads first of course
2018-02-03T17:23:32 < invzim> hold it down with tweezer and give it a blast?
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2018-02-03T17:23:41 < englishman> pretty much
2018-02-03T17:23:50 < englishman> i use curved tweezers
2018-02-03T17:23:58 < englishman> fine tip
2018-02-03T17:24:00 < invzim> for repair I see it, but for proto it seems a little time consuming
2018-02-03T17:24:23 < invzim> unless maybe you tin all parts, then get a rythm going
2018-02-03T17:24:23 < englishman> eh ive had to do a few same-day prototypes
2018-02-03T17:24:32 < englishman> where i had no time to get a stencil
2018-02-03T17:24:36 < englishman> yeah it goes fast
2018-02-03T17:24:50 < invzim> what's your flux policy?
2018-02-03T17:25:05 < englishman> only need it on the larger chips, qfps
2018-02-03T17:26:40 < branjb> for 0402 I usually tin one pad, keep the solder warm and slide the smt component into the pad with tweezers
2018-02-03T17:26:43 < branjb> works pretty well
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2018-02-03T17:30:35 < sync> englishman: well, you sometimes do
2018-02-03T17:31:38 < branjb> anyone have experience waterproofing/sealing wood?
2018-02-03T17:31:54 < branjb> i don't want to stain it, just want to put some protect layer so if water gets on it it won't warp
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2018-02-03T21:45:16 < Steffanx> It was during some medical operation
2018-02-03T21:45:44 < Laurenceb_> if it was realistic the patient would die cuz they didnt learn anything
2018-02-03T21:46:18 < Steffanx> Nah, englishman. That would probably be "The end of the f***ing world". That's another series.
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2018-02-03T21:48:37 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/778d5d219c/81632.png
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2018-02-03T21:49:20 < kakimir> Laurenceb_, you happen to have some of those boards laying around?
2018-02-03T21:49:23 < Laurenceb_> ^as you can see crapillary refill time can tell you if a patient is in a critical condition...
2018-02-03T21:49:27 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: yes...
2018-02-03T21:49:38 < Laurenceb_> but I can't go as far as giving them away lol
2018-02-03T21:49:55 < kakimir> okay
2018-02-03T21:50:34 < kakimir> so which was first
2018-02-03T21:50:52 < kakimir> logger32 or crapillary refill or test stand?
2018-02-03T21:51:16 < kakimir> I refer to github logger codez
2018-02-03T21:51:32 < Laurenceb_> oh
2018-02-03T21:51:40 < Laurenceb_> test stand kind of happened in parallel
2018-02-03T21:51:52 < Laurenceb_> crapillary refill followed logger32
2018-02-03T21:52:00 < Laurenceb_> but only the logger code is opesores
2018-02-03T22:01:23 < kakimir> and test stand is based on crapper32?
2018-02-03T22:03:12 < Laurenceb_> no thats something else entirely
2018-02-03T22:04:39 < branjb> new application for LoRa? https://imgur.com/a/eP23s
2018-02-03T22:07:24 < jadew> they wouldn't need that if they just wore a burka
2018-02-03T22:19:07 < Laurenceb_> or a face mounted crapillary refill device
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2018-02-03T22:28:33 < Laurenceb_> that image I linked - average crapillary refill time for automated device for a load of volunteers, both off street and in hospital in serious condition
2018-02-03T22:28:42 < kakimir> https://i.imgur.com/WKcfz9U.gifv majestetic
2018-02-03T22:28:57 < Laurenceb_> supposedly crapillary refill will tell you if the patient is ill, like some sort of magic snake oil
2018-02-03T22:29:09 < Laurenceb_> from the graph it only tells you their temperature
2018-02-03T22:32:37 < Laurenceb_> worlds most overcomplex temperature sensor
2018-02-03T22:34:22 < kakimir> tell me again.. how does it work?
2018-02-03T22:34:39 < kakimir> is it takin some blood from you?
2018-02-03T22:34:41 < kakimir> or piss?
2018-02-03T22:35:58 < Laurenceb_> lulwut
2018-02-03T22:36:05 < Laurenceb_> it is talking the piss...
2018-02-03T22:36:10 < Laurenceb_> *taking
2018-02-03T22:36:21 < kakimir> measuring your shit?
2018-02-03T22:36:30 < kakimir> what does it measure?
2018-02-03T22:37:04 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capillary_refill
2018-02-03T22:37:19 < Laurenceb_> what the... https://twitter.com/BBCTwo/status/959359534056857600
2018-02-03T22:37:26 < kakimir> oh that
2018-02-03T22:37:27 < Laurenceb_> >sensible and mature commentry
2018-02-03T22:37:40 < Laurenceb_> >we are totes more mature than Trump
2018-02-03T22:42:23 < karlp> invzim: late to ther aprty, and i'm no hardcore assembly monkey, but syringing paste onto a board, placing parts and then using hot air by hand also works just fine..
2018-02-03T22:43:23 < Laurenceb_> thats how I do it
2018-02-03T22:45:37 < kakimir> well you can measure many things from capilary reflow right?
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2018-02-03T22:46:00 < kakimir> refill*
2018-02-03T22:46:13 < kakimir> or it may imply many things
2018-02-03T22:46:23 < kakimir> 1) patient is dead
2018-02-03T22:46:39 < kakimir> 2) ?
2018-02-03T22:47:31 < Laurenceb_> haha
2018-02-03T22:47:38 < kakimir> why do you need such a device? doesn't doctor do that thing with your back of arm or something
2018-02-03T22:47:44 < Laurenceb_> its funny cuz it wont even tell you if they are alive
2018-02-03T22:47:52 < kakimir> lulz
2018-02-03T22:47:54 < Laurenceb_> dead bodies have a capillary refill response
2018-02-03T22:48:15 < Laurenceb_> well supposedly manual capillary refill is biased
2018-02-03T22:48:17 < kakimir> howe.. what medical theory it bases on then?
2018-02-03T22:48:24 < Laurenceb_> there is no theory
2018-02-03T22:48:29 < Laurenceb_> its literally snake oil
2018-02-03T22:48:36 < Laurenceb_> and our study backs that up
2018-02-03T22:48:59 < Laurenceb_> but the other guys on the project dont want to publish something concluding that
2018-02-03T22:55:36 < Laurenceb_> imo it highlights the problems in medicine
2018-02-03T22:55:52 < Laurenceb_> its not always evidence based, some stuff is literally "just the way its always done"
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2018-02-03T23:05:37 < invzim> karlp: the syringe by hands kills me
2018-02-03T23:06:23 < karlp> well, you were complaining about hand soldering and tinning, that sounds wayyyy worse
2018-02-03T23:06:44 < invzim> I'm not complaining, I'm exploring :)
2018-02-03T23:06:55 < karlp> it's not so bad really, you don't have to be real precise with it, just touch the tip aon all the pads, drag a line across all the pads on qfps/soX and so forth
2018-02-03T23:07:01 < invzim> issue with the syringe is it's so damn hard to squeeze stuff out
2018-02-03T23:07:08 < karlp> you're doing it wrong?
2018-02-03T23:07:14 < karlp> buy psate in a syringe?
2018-02-03T23:07:21 < invzim> so fatiugue sets in quickly
2018-02-03T23:07:37 < karlp> well, duh, if you're manually assembly monkeying, this is wrong :)
2018-02-03T23:08:16 < invzim> I should really fiddle a bit with my oven to so it doesn't under/over cook the boards
2018-02-03T23:08:50 < karlp> still gotta get the paste down :)
2018-02-03T23:08:55 < invzim> stencil
2018-02-03T23:09:11 < invzim> trouble with stencil is that I'm a bit space constrained, and it can be a bit messy
2018-02-03T23:11:39 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2018-02-03T23:11:47 < Laurenceb_> dont use the syringe to apply pasta
2018-02-03T23:12:07 < Laurenceb_> squeeze some out on one side and use a scalple blade and sewing needle to apply
2018-02-03T23:12:25 < invzim> tried - doesn't stick to the pads
2018-02-03T23:12:29 < invzim> just gets messy
2018-02-03T23:13:01 < Laurenceb_> odd
2018-02-03T23:13:06 < Laurenceb_> what sort of pads?
2018-02-03T23:13:27 < invzim> even tried this, https://www.mencinger.biz/#!/products/dispenser
2018-02-03T23:13:41 < invzim> but the paste just kept oozing out minutes after I stopped
2018-02-03T23:13:53 < zyp> invzim, how many boards are you assembling?
2018-02-03T23:14:14 < invzim> very few
2018-02-03T23:14:32 < zyp> that's relative, I mean in absolute terms
2018-02-03T23:14:45 < invzim> it's protowork, where I actually prefer to do it by hand so I can do step-by-step bringup
2018-02-03T23:15:11 < Laurenceb_> I've never actually had any problems applying paste manually
2018-02-03T23:15:13 < invzim> but I have some stuff I want to try out to see if it's a market for it before I order a 100
2018-02-03T23:15:18 < Laurenceb_> its pretty sticky stuff
2018-02-03T23:15:36 < invzim> Laurenceb_: probably because you buy good paste from a reputable dealer :)
2018-02-03T23:15:56 < invzim> zyp: 15-50 I guess
2018-02-03T23:16:18 < zyp> 15-50 is not «very few»
2018-02-03T23:16:56 < zyp> 15-50 is absolutely where you want to use a stencil
2018-02-03T23:17:48 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2018-02-03T23:17:51 < invzim> you're right
2018-02-03T23:17:55 < Laurenceb_> just used a PET stencil
2018-02-03T23:18:41 < zyp> I mean, 15-50 is starting to get into where it's worthwhile to outsource assembly to somebody with a P&P, at least for boards of any complexity
2018-02-03T23:19:22 < invzim> it's a tricky number, shipping and sourcing parts etc
2018-02-03T23:19:50 < Laurenceb_> yeah its a pita to organise
2018-02-03T23:19:58 < Laurenceb_> maybe for 100 complex boards I'd do that
2018-02-03T23:20:12 < kakimir> https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Foot-Hospital-Grade-Power-Cord-NEMA-5-15P-to-IEC320-C13-18AWG-Gray-Blue/371773096299 why translucent?
2018-02-03T23:20:18 < invzim> IDEAL scenario would be to have a double garage type space, in a warm country, with p&p, decent stencil printer, free shipping from digikey and a magically good deal with DHL for shipping to customers :)
2018-02-03T23:20:36 < invzim> and no need to make money of it
2018-02-03T23:21:17 < zyp> sadly, shipping from norway kinda sucks
2018-02-03T23:21:30 < invzim> yeah, and the weather sucks too :)
2018-02-03T23:21:31 < branjb> anyone know if Lowe's will do lumber cuts for you?
2018-02-03T23:21:39 < zyp> pfft
2018-02-03T23:21:45 < zyp> weather's fine
2018-02-03T23:21:55 < zyp> especially indoors
2018-02-03T23:23:56 < invzim> weather is not fine, I actually took a picture on my way to work the other day for when I again live in a nice climate and get homesick
2018-02-03T23:24:08 < zyp> haha
2018-02-03T23:24:22 < invzim> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yeJWVTd739Cr7gYDKi86lHhYuHr9xIy4/view
2018-02-03T23:24:32 < invzim> which sane person would want it like this 5 months of the year
2018-02-03T23:24:54 < zyp> aww
2018-02-03T23:25:07 < invzim> it's like one of those westerns where the streets are filled with dirt and feces, except it's 2018 and snow/ice
2018-02-03T23:25:32 < zyp> then again, you probably live in the dirtiest place in norway :p
2018-02-03T23:26:31 < invzim> wife not crazy about it either, and she's the one that made us move here :)
2018-02-03T23:26:51 < branjb> that's disgusting, glad I moved to the desert
2018-02-03T23:27:10 < invzim> saudi? :)
2018-02-03T23:27:26 < zyp> winter here is fairly nice, but I don't have any photos to show off :p
2018-02-03T23:27:35 < branjb> no, arizona
2018-02-03T23:28:18 < branjb> 77F/47C out right now
2018-02-03T23:28:54 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/rURPf.jpg <- latest outdoor photo I've got is this, and that was a few weeks ago
2018-02-03T23:29:00 < invzim> as long as it's really dry it's ok
2018-02-03T23:29:12 < zyp> but still, this is nice winter weather :p
2018-02-03T23:30:07 < invzim> the thing that cracks me up about Norwegians are those that build pools in their gardens to show off
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2018-02-03T23:30:44 < zyp> hey, can go ice skating on it :)
2018-02-03T23:30:46 < karlp> Laurenceb_: why squeeze it out and then use a sewing needle or a scalpel when I could just squeeze it out?
2018-02-03T23:32:31 < karlp> worst wthing about winter is when it can't decide to be properly winter.
2018-02-03T23:32:36 < Laurenceb_> karlp: because thats hard to get accurate
2018-02-03T23:32:38 < karlp> like, give me snow and reliable ice or fuck off.
2018-02-03T23:32:51 < Laurenceb_> when you need to sculpt the pasta to get it <100µm accurate
2018-02-03T23:32:56 < Laurenceb_> you need a needle or similar
2018-02-03T23:32:59 < karlp> if you need accurate, you're already in the wrong game if you think syring to needle and paste is going to be better
2018-02-03T23:33:05 < zyp> haha
2018-02-03T23:33:12 < karlp> the fuck are you hand needling patste to 100um you lunatic
2018-02-03T23:33:42 < karlp> we had some nice snow during teh week, was looking forward to playing in it with stella this weekend.
2018-02-03T23:33:47 < Laurenceb_> for like 0.3mmpin spacing
2018-02-03T23:33:49 < karlp> nope. 6C and rain friday night
2018-02-03T23:33:51 < zyp> Laurenceb_ is probably hand pasting double row qfn shit
2018-02-03T23:33:57 < Laurenceb_> yeah I've done that
2018-02-03T23:34:04 < zyp> for all his xmos needs
2018-02-03T23:34:07 < Laurenceb_> haha
2018-02-03T23:34:08 < Laurenceb_> no
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2018-02-03T23:34:23 < karlp> hrm, just realized my primary storage of photos is a 2011 harddrive
2018-02-03T23:34:33 < karlp> maybe I need to get a new hardrive as well, not just nnew mobo/cpu.
2018-02-03T23:35:16 < karlp> also, who the fuck let this scam exist! https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-850-evo-m-2-500gb-mz-n5e500bw/
2018-02-03T23:35:25 < zyp> IMO changing weather is nice too, it means snow doesn't pile up enough that I need to get out the shovel
2018-02-03T23:35:33 < zyp> or it's supposed to do
2018-02-03T23:35:36 < karlp> we never get enough snow to pile up here.
2018-02-03T23:35:56 < zyp> but whicever asshole designed the carport here is a fucking idiot
2018-02-03T23:36:21 < zyp> roof is slanted towards the entrance, so when the snow on the roof melts, it all comes down in front of the carport
2018-02-03T23:36:54 < zyp> so far I've gotten the car stuck in it twice, trying to just drive through it
2018-02-03T23:37:23 < karlp> (you have a toy car, har har...)
2018-02-03T23:38:08 < zyp> well, my old car had more clearance under, I'll admit
2018-02-03T23:38:08 < karlp> we've been having problems here the last few weeks with jeep bois driving past road closed signs, manned by rescue staff, and then promptly getting stuck and needing rescues.
2018-02-03T23:38:22 < karlp> clearance is awesome
2018-02-03T23:38:31 < karlp> lets you take cars so much further
2018-02-03T23:39:00 < zyp> new car is generally way better on snow though
2018-02-03T23:39:59 < zyp> but trying to push through a tall pile without enough momentum to get all the way through leaves it hanging without enough weight on the tires to get any traction
2018-02-03T23:40:44 < zyp> but yeah
2018-02-03T23:40:48 < PaulFertser> We have a saying that goes: the bigger your jeep, the farther you'll have to fucking walk for a tractor.
2018-02-03T23:41:03 < zyp> I've never really understood the craze about lowering cars
2018-02-03T23:41:09 < karlp> PaulFertser: hah :)
2018-02-03T23:41:15 < zyp> to me it just seems like making it less usable
2018-02-03T23:41:56 < karlp> there's a cabin here you have to cross some rough rivers to get to, and htey have a big tractor for pulling out people who get stuck, and a nice photo album of all the cars they've pulled out :)
2018-02-03T23:43:07 < zyp> I remember when my dad got his first car with awd, we went offroading to see how well it worked
2018-02-03T23:43:14 < zyp> and promptly got stuck
2018-02-03T23:43:39 < karlp> this hut here: https://www.google.is/maps/@63.682067,-19.5120257,1017m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en
2018-02-03T23:43:56 < zyp> nice
2018-02-03T23:44:05 < karlp> that big grey swathe is a just glacial muck back and forth and gravel, and changing channels
2018-02-03T23:44:42 < karlp> it's fun sitting at the hut with beers and watching people go abck and forth trying to decide where/if they'll cross, and cheerin them or booing :)
2018-02-03T23:45:27 < karlp> upgrdman: so, you had a das keyboard right?
2018-02-03T23:45:30 < karlp> I just unlugged mine
2018-02-03T23:45:33 < karlp> it's dead to me.
2018-02-03T23:45:54 < PaulFertser> Do they sell new transmission oil so that those who crossed could change?
2018-02-03T23:46:22 < karlp> what sort of car needs new transmission oil after driving through a river?
2018-02-03T23:46:39 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/MildlyBitter/status/959446593874296838
2018-02-03T23:46:46 < Laurenceb_> a murican car
2018-02-03T23:46:53 < Laurenceb_> also -> transmission oil
2018-02-03T23:47:15 < karlp> she can't be serious cna she?
2018-02-03T23:47:39 < Laurenceb_> of course she is
2018-02-03T23:47:41 < PaulFertser> Many if not prepared properly. They all have valves in gear box and main gears. And if they are a bit dirty, they let water in.
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2018-02-03T23:49:06 < PaulFertser> So unless you added tubes to relocate the valves, better check the transmission oil after long water crossings.
2018-02-03T23:49:43 < Laurenceb_> only on an auto surely?
2018-02-03T23:50:35 < karlp> I'm honestly not sure I know of anyone who goes and replaces fluids after every weekend in the mountains here,
2018-02-03T23:50:49 < PaulFertser> Motorbikes usually have combined engine and gearbox, and the valve is going to the air box, so not affected.
2018-02-03T23:50:58 < karlp> driving in that area you're looking at 10+ river crossings in a weekend, easily
2018-02-03T23:51:15 < PaulFertser> You do not need to do that each time of course.
2018-02-03T23:51:42 < PaulFertser> 10+ deep enough to fully submerge main gears and gearbox?
2018-02-03T23:53:56 < branjb> Laurenceb_ how do you find these people?
2018-02-03T23:54:25 < Laurenceb_> branjb: 4chan, where else
2018-02-03T23:54:44 < Laurenceb_> Iceland looks pretty cool
2018-02-03T23:54:47 < Laurenceb_> literally :P
2018-02-03T23:54:53 < karlp> well, not cold.
2018-02-03T23:54:56 < karlp> cool is good
2018-02-03T23:54:58 < karlp> come visit
2018-02-03T23:55:13 < karlp> I'll try not to call you lolrence in public :)
2018-02-03T23:55:36 < Laurenceb_> I'm prob too poor atm :P
2018-02-03T23:55:57 < Laurenceb_> wonder if its cheap or insane air fares...
2018-02-03T23:56:51 < karlp> air fares are only a fraction
2018-02-03T23:56:54 < karlp> you need a place to stay
2018-02-03T23:57:02 < Laurenceb_> ah
2018-02-03T23:57:06 < karlp> I will hang out with  you, but you're not staying on my couch
2018-02-03T23:57:09 < Laurenceb_> not in bed with karlp?
2018-02-03T23:57:14 < Laurenceb_> no homo
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2018-02-03T23:57:29 < karlp> my bed already has it's full quota of people
2018-02-03T23:57:34 < MrMobius> *karlp is never seen again*
2018-02-03T23:58:11 < Laurenceb_> yeah at least all my food will be free
2018-02-03T23:58:32 < PaulFertser> karlp: some examples of proper river crossings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh-sdbIq7do
2018-02-03T23:58:58 < Laurenceb_> hmm ukp160, not too bad
2018-02-03T23:59:28 < upgrdman> karlp, ya i have a das kybd. whats wrong with yours?
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2018-02-04T00:00:04 < upgrdman> i have 2 actually
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2018-02-04T00:02:37 < branjb> PaulFertser??? bunch of Ruskies getting cars stuck in the snow
2018-02-04T00:03:17 < branjb> this is the most sperg youtube video ever
2018-02-04T00:03:37 < branjb> they're all just driving their cars till they get stuck then walking to the next car that gets stuck
2018-02-04T00:04:11 < branjb> then laughing about it
2018-02-04T00:04:25 < PaulFertser> branjb: they have some water obstacles later
2018-02-04T00:04:45 < branjb> is it like a challenge to see how far they can get?
2018-02-04T00:05:13 < branjb> is this what russians do for fun?
2018-02-04T00:05:43 < PaulFertser> I think they are trying to find proper ways to tune cars so that they can avoid getting stuck offroad, and also training specific driving skills that way.
2018-02-04T00:06:10 < branjb> 26:09 that car is fucked
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2018-02-04T00:08:13 < PaulFertser> They'll just pull it back and it'll continue the trip.
2018-02-04T00:09:21 < karlp> upgrdman: starting having problems with keys doing repeated entry, getting double letters and so on.
2018-02-04T00:09:30 < karlp> most importatnylyu, it was just still too loud
2018-02-04T00:09:45 < upgrdman> bummer. never had repeat problems.
2018-02-04T00:09:49 < karlp> got a nice cheap generic keyboard, and it stil feels nice to type on
2018-02-04T00:09:50 < upgrdman> k
2018-02-04T00:09:53 < karlp> and is _way_ quieter
2018-02-04T00:10:02 < upgrdman> i like much noise
2018-02-04T00:10:05 < upgrdman> muh*
2018-02-04T00:10:18 < karlp> yeah, it might have been a sideaffect of putting on new keycaps with oring noise dampeners
2018-02-04T00:10:21 < karlp> *shrugs*
2018-02-04T00:10:28 < karlp> gonna miss the built in usb3 hub though
2018-02-04T00:10:31 < karlp> tjhat was pretty unique
2018-02-04T00:10:35 < upgrdman> ya
2018-02-04T00:10:38 < karlp> even usb2 hub is not real common, none sold locally.
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2018-02-04T00:10:54 < upgrdman> did you have cherry blues or browns?
2018-02-04T00:12:42 < karlp> browns
2018-02-04T00:12:49 < karlp> blues sound insane
2018-02-04T00:13:05 < karlp> I'm honestly doubtful on this whole cherry mech allegiance
2018-02-04T00:13:58 < karlp> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bootlin/allwinner-vpu-support-in-the-official-linux-kernel
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2018-02-04T01:09:49 < upgrdman> no chatz :(
2018-02-04T01:11:40 < karlp> sorry, it was the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O66vYuc4tnI
2018-02-04T01:11:55 < karlp> it's only been an hour!
2018-02-04T01:12:35 < Laurenceb_> crapillary refill works guys, honest it does
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2018-02-04T03:54:25 < aandrew> https://gfycat.com/PowerlessCloudyEquestrian found r2com
2018-02-04T03:58:10 < Laurenceb_> those guys are a bit no homo somehow
2018-02-04T03:59:41 < aandrew> I am considering an ipad pro mostly for pdf work but I'm having trouble justifying the cost. my son's ipad3 is doing a fine job with pdf expert and some gigantic atmel pdfs I have
2018-02-04T04:03:12 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/778d5d219c/81722.png
2018-02-04T04:03:38 < Laurenceb_> >JJB Sports manager
2018-02-04T04:03:40 < Laurenceb_> mysides
2018-02-04T04:05:37 < aandrew> I guess I have to be british to get it
2018-02-04T04:08:36 < Laurenceb_> insert Walmart and McMansion
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2018-02-04T04:31:56 < tpw_rules> bah how do i configure systemworkbench to not overwrite my bootloader
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2018-02-04T04:39:14 < tpw_rules> i set my linker script to start past the bootloader, set VTOR, and set launch offset
2018-02-04T04:39:15 < tpw_rules> but no
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2018-02-04T04:48:01 < tpw_rules> it seems to inexplicably work when debugged, sometimes
2018-02-04T04:48:22 < tpw_rules> if i already have the openocd process from reprogramming the bootloader for the umpteenth time. maybe it concatenates them?
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2018-02-04T06:31:32 < emeb_mac> https://twitter.com/internetofshit/status/959913048101224448
2018-02-04T06:44:18 < tpw_rules> any ideas? i've done everything online
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2018-02-04T08:24:26 < ColdKeyboard> Can someone take a peek at my makefile -> https://pastebin.com/6pqsBEbu
2018-02-04T08:24:44 < ColdKeyboard> I'm getting an error
2018-02-04T08:24:46 < ColdKeyboard> make: *** No rule to make target `build/stm32f1xx_hal.o', needed by `build/LivingRoomClock.elf'.  Stop.
2018-02-04T08:25:25 < ColdKeyboard> But file is there in include dir and also in sources... not sure why linker can't find it?
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2018-02-04T08:40:45 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone?
2018-02-04T08:44:11 < dongs> gross.
2018-02-04T08:44:32 < dongs> i'd say switch to F0 and use keil
2018-02-04T08:44:37 < dongs> so you don't have to worry about "makefailes"
2018-02-04T08:48:30 < ColdKeyboard> dongs: You are helpful as always :)
2018-02-04T08:51:27 < jpa-> ColdKeyboard: not sure how it's supposed to work, but the rule on line 168 doesn't seem able to find .c files from subdirectories
2018-02-04T08:52:01 < jpa-> you can duplicate it and have Drivers/STM32F1xx_HAL_Driver/Src/%.c instead of %.c there, but that is of course ugly
2018-02-04T08:53:35 < ColdKeyboard> jpa-: At this point I don't really care, I just want to get it to work
2018-02-04T08:53:39 < ColdKeyboard> I'll try that
2018-02-04T08:55:37 < dongs> generally people who want "get it to work" use appropriate tools...
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2018-02-04T10:20:24 < dongs> Intel seems to have completely given up on its efforts to bring products specific to the Internet of Things. After discontinuing Intel Edison, Galileo and Joule boards & modules last month
2018-02-04T10:26:47 < srk> who needs iot when you have https://internetofdon.gs/
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2018-02-04T11:20:43 < stvn> steffan is welcome
2018-02-04T11:21:10 < Steffanx> No
2018-02-04T11:22:52 < stvn> a free operating system?
2018-02-04T11:23:46 < dongs> free aids
2018-02-04T11:27:29 < Steffanx> Windows was free.
2018-02-04T11:27:35 < stvn> next ubuntu will be dedicated to harambe
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2018-02-04T11:50:24 < stvn> coffee lake
2018-02-04T12:03:14 < stvn> steffin
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2018-02-04T12:40:37 < dongs> http://  donkeykongforum.com/index.php?topic=2055 haha
2018-02-04T12:40:40 < dongs> err
2018-02-04T12:40:44 < dongs> http://donkeykongforum.com/index.php?topic=2055
2018-02-04T12:40:54 < dongs> some high level autistic drama
2018-02-04T12:42:40 < Steffanx> Mainly: tldr;
2018-02-04T12:42:47 < dongs> for sure
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2018-02-04T15:27:00 < Ecco> Hey :)
2018-02-04T15:27:21 < Ecco> What would you guys recommend to view USB traffic on the cheap?
2018-02-04T15:27:30 < Ecco> (12Mbps max)
2018-02-04T15:27:37 < Ecco> I was thinking a cheap logic analyzer maybe?
2018-02-04T15:28:33 < jpa-> yeah, cheap logic analyzer and sigrok works if you don't need fancy decoding
2018-02-04T15:28:52 < Ecco> Yeah, I tried Sigrok, it's actually pretty nice
2018-02-04T15:29:00 < jpa-> (it decodes the packets, but not the higher level details like e.g. beagle would)
2018-02-04T15:29:08 < Ecco> I have a 24 Mhz analyzer here. Supposedly that should be enough, shouldn't it?
2018-02-04T15:29:20 < Ecco> Or should I get a 100MHz one?
2018-02-04T15:29:26 < jpa-> it's borderline, i'd recommend 48MHz or more
2018-02-04T15:29:35 < jpa-> but if you have it, you can of course try
2018-02-04T15:29:55 < Ecco> It seems to be working. Gets a few errors though, and I'm not sure if errors are actually on the wire or just not sampled fast enough
2018-02-04T15:30:16 < englishman> with what hardware jpa?
2018-02-04T15:30:24 < jpa-> if you are using a real PHY and not bit-banged one, the errors are probably in the capture
2018-02-04T15:30:25 < Ecco> 24Mhz should be just at the nyquist freq though :)
2018-02-04T15:30:47 < jpa-> nyquist frequency doesn't apply that well to square waves
2018-02-04T15:30:51 < Ecco> Yeah, I got those error when sniffing the USB-DFU traffic of an STM32
2018-02-04T15:31:14 < Ecco> hmm, really? That's itneresting, why?
2018-02-04T15:31:18 < jpa-> if you look at the edges in the error point carefully, can you see if D+ and D- look to be slightly missynchronized?
2018-02-04T15:31:37 < Ecco> oh, I don't have it handy and I don't remember
2018-02-04T15:31:38 < jpa-> well, first of all, nyquist-shannon theorem is about sine waves
2018-02-04T15:32:21 < Ecco> Sure, but I would have thought that it would work in a similar way. Anyway, in practice apparently it doesnt', so you must be right :)
2018-02-04T15:32:50 < jpa-> basically to capture square wave completely accurately you'd need infinite bandwidth; but you don't need complete accuracy for digital signals, you only need to tell apart 0/1; if your capture was edge-synchronized, you could do that with a 12MHz capture
2018-02-04T15:33:08 < Ecco> indeed
2018-02-04T15:33:30 < jpa-> not sure if there is any similar theorem for digital signals, but typical rule of thumb is 4x freq for unsynchronized captures :)
2018-02-04T15:33:47 < Ecco> On a slightly different topic: when browsing an USB capture in Sigrok, the interesting area is very sparse
2018-02-04T15:34:25 < Ecco> i.e. very long periods w/o any activity, and every now and then, tons of data flowing on the bus
2018-02-04T15:34:39 < Ecco> is there any way to somehow "fold" the boring parts of the capture?
2018-02-04T15:34:47 < jpa-> not AFAIK
2018-02-04T15:34:50 < Ecco> ok
2018-02-04T15:34:59 < Ecco> I'm surprised nobody else needed that
2018-02-04T15:35:02 < jpa-> i've been thinking that it would be nice to have an option like this   http://essentialscrap.com/dsoquad/logic_collapse.png
2018-02-04T15:35:24 < Ecco> exactly
2018-02-04T15:35:33 < jpa-> but been too lazy to actually implement anything
2018-02-04T15:35:38 < Ecco> ^^
2018-02-04T15:36:01 < jpa-> getting the text output from sigrok-cli helps sometimes so you can browse more easily
2018-02-04T15:36:09 < Ecco> oh, interesting
2018-02-04T15:36:29 < Ecco> is there any other (cheap-ish) way to "view" what's going on on an USB bus?
2018-02-04T15:38:25 < jpa-> wireshark can show it on the software side
2018-02-04T15:38:45 < Ecco> Yeah, I read that. Can I somehow feed it a sigrok capture?
2018-02-04T15:38:50 < jpa-> but things like retrys and many others are done automatically by the hardware
2018-02-04T15:38:58 < jpa-> would be nice if you could :P
2018-02-04T15:38:58 < Ecco> I see
2018-02-04T15:39:13 < Ecco> Apparently you can dump USB traffic on Linux and recent versions of macOS
2018-02-04T15:39:19 < Ecco> and feed that into Wireshark
2018-02-04T15:39:37 < jpa-> yeah
2018-02-04T15:40:36 < jpa-> http://essentialscrap.com/dsoquad/usb.html   i should port this to some icestick or other cheap fpga board in the imaginary future where i'd have a lot of time and energy
2018-02-04T15:45:35 < dongs> is that before or after i pay you for some fpga work
2018-02-04T15:46:10 < Steffanx> Would he get paid in dongs?
2018-02-04T15:46:33 < dongs> vietnamese dongs, to be exact
2018-02-04T15:50:23 < jpa-> dongs: after, of course
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2018-02-04T16:32:25 < Steffanx> 1:30. damnit.
2018-02-04T16:39:30 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/778d5d219c/81836.jpg
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2018-02-04T17:03:30 < tpw_rules> i'm all the other concrete birds
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2018-02-04T17:21:00 < fest> jpa-: your server seems to be down
2018-02-04T17:38:31 < Steffanx> kapsi is breaking up :o
2018-02-04T17:39:22 < Steffanx> *down
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2018-02-04T18:15:12 < polymorph> hi
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2018-02-04T18:26:30 < jpa-> Steffanx: yeah, they've built too complex system and now it is crashing all the time
2018-02-04T18:27:07 < Steffanx> is sykemyke responsible?
2018-02-04T18:31:04 < Steffanx> half of finland must be down now jpa- P
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2018-02-04T18:33:55 < kakimir> typical kapsi
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2018-02-04T19:10:56 < kakimir> sunday sucks
2018-02-04T19:12:55 < BrainDamage> kakimir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giacomo_Leopardi#Il_sabato_del_villaggio
2018-02-04T19:13:17 < BrainDamage> ( i don't agree with it )
2018-02-04T19:23:25 < kakimir> sunday I have sleep hangover and all the things I should have done during weekend boil down to nothing
2018-02-04T19:24:27 < kakimir> eat unhealthy and smoke to pass time
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2018-02-04T19:58:58 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/CPyLAP0.gifv
2018-02-04T20:01:27 < kakimir> look who is up :D
2018-02-04T20:02:45 < Steffanx> I spotted R2COM's russian adidas tracksuite :D
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2018-02-04T20:30:01 < Rob235> hmm how do you copy a body from one file to another in fusion360
2018-02-04T20:30:11 < polymorph> what connector would you use for 3-4 data +gnd+vcc lines? I like the sata data cable but that only has 2 diff lines +3gnd ;(
2018-02-04T20:32:15 < polymorph> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI ? lol
2018-02-04T20:34:01 < BrainDamage> a bunch of sma
2018-02-04T20:34:11 < BrainDamage> spotted r2com https://i.imgur.com/msvNblQ.mp4
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2018-02-04T20:45:37 < zyp> polymorph, for what purpose?
2018-02-04T20:45:39 < Steffanx> hah.
2018-02-04T21:04:15 < kakimir> BrainDamage, they are doing important stuff
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2018-02-04T21:12:59 < Steffanx> Important stuff can still be done very stupidly kakimir
2018-02-04T21:22:49 < polymorph> zyp: interfacing mcus to stuff, display, programmer
2018-02-04T21:23:20 < zyp> that's not being very specific
2018-02-04T21:23:57 < polymorph> zyp: because i dont want many types of connectors   https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/HDMI_Connector_Types.png
2018-02-04T21:24:40 < polymorph> zyp: i would use tha same connector for a display as programming...
2018-02-04T21:25:03 < zyp> why?
2018-02-04T21:25:04 < polymorph> and display is not even needed while programming
2018-02-04T21:28:07 < polymorph> zyp: you never wanted anything different than an ide connector/pin header ?
2018-02-04T21:28:55 < polymorph> zyp: i use a sata cable for my pt100
2018-02-04T21:29:30 < zyp> I don't tend to use pin headers, actually
2018-02-04T21:30:07 < zyp> doesn't mean I shoehorn every incompatible protocol into the same kind of connector
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2018-02-04T21:33:53 < jadew> new things I learned while trying to fix that agilent counter: on the processor board, they don't use a JTAG chain, instead every IC has its own JTAG connection
2018-02-04T21:34:07 < jadew> and none of it is exposed via a connector
2018-02-04T21:34:31 < jadew> the board is supposed to be tested/programmed with pogo pins in randomly placed test points on both sides
2018-02-04T21:35:47 < jadew> some ICs seem to have a common TCK line (possibly TMS), but they're not chained
2018-02-04T21:35:49 < kakimir> oh there is dual link hdmi
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2018-02-04T21:39:48 < kakimir> !wz oulu
2018-02-04T21:39:50 < englishbot> [Oulu, Finland] Clear. Temp is -20.8°C. Humidity: 89%.
2018-02-04T21:40:04 < polymorph> R2COM: raging retard
2018-02-04T21:40:57 < kakimir> band name idea: Raging Retards
2018-02-04T21:41:35 < jadew> probably taken
2018-02-04T21:42:21 < polymorph> https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Sloth/Raging_Retards_-_Sloth/62265
2018-02-04T21:42:39 < jadew> https://www.discogs.com/Sloth-6-Raging-Retards-Sloth-6-Raging-Retards/release/3110096
2018-02-04T21:42:42 < jadew> yeah
2018-02-04T21:42:43 < jadew> taken
2018-02-04T21:42:56 < kakimir> The Pump Crew
2018-02-04T21:43:29 < Steffanx> Better stay inside kakimir
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2018-02-04T21:44:14 < jadew> who should stay inside kakimir?
2018-02-04T21:44:36 < kakimir> better it is
2018-02-04T21:45:39 < Steffanx> you, jadew
2018-02-04T21:45:54 < kakimir> !wz jadew
2018-02-04T21:45:55 < englishbot> [Jadewala, Pakistan] Smoke. Temp is 14°C. Humidity: 55%.
2018-02-04T21:46:01 < Steffanx> lol
2018-02-04T21:46:03 < kakimir> pakipaki
2018-02-04T21:46:11 < jadew> haha
2018-02-04T21:46:23 < BrainDamage> what kind of weather is 'smoke'
2018-02-04T21:46:23 < englishbot> Unable to locate query.
2018-02-04T21:46:28 < BrainDamage> is the whole place on fire?
2018-02-04T21:46:46 < kakimir> probs burning stacks of trash on the streets
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2018-02-04T21:50:41 < Laurenceb_> kek
2018-02-04T21:50:55 < Laurenceb_> >when so much trash is burning it gets added to weather model
2018-02-04T21:51:21 < Laurenceb_> wtf is with acpi in lunix
2018-02-04T21:51:35 < Laurenceb_> it seems to think my battery is at 60% capacity
2018-02-04T21:51:38 < Laurenceb_> alays
2018-02-04T21:51:41 < Laurenceb_> *always
2018-02-04T21:51:42 < BrainDamage> acpi in lunix has been a dumpster fire since ~forever
2018-02-04T21:51:50 < Laurenceb_> and all the other specs adjust to compensate
2018-02-04T21:51:56 < Laurenceb_> its a disaster zone
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2018-02-04T22:00:00 < englishman> >2018
2018-02-04T22:00:04 < englishman> >lunix desktop
2018-02-04T22:04:12 < Laurenceb_> the current year
2018-02-04T22:04:47 < Laurenceb_> ok muh 8 year old battery seems to have >75% of rated capacity
2018-02-04T22:04:49 < Laurenceb_> not too bad
2018-02-04T22:05:42 < aandrew> word.
2018-02-04T22:07:25 < Laurenceb_> keeping it in a fridge helps
2018-02-04T22:08:37 < zyp> I think that's what the warranty terms on my car also promises
2018-02-04T22:28:46 < Steffanx> where is stvn?
2018-02-04T22:29:47 < Steffanx> Did you know stvn woke up at 1.30, localtime?
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2018-02-04T23:21:06 < Laurenceb_> http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/cathy-newman-abuse-channel-4-jordan-peterson-metoo-backlash-latest-a8170031.html
2018-02-04T23:21:09 < Laurenceb_> Peterson btfo
2018-02-04T23:21:16 < Laurenceb_> Peterson is dead to me now
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2018-02-05T00:41:01 < kakimir> http://mixedstuff.de/temp/kicad4728.png
2018-02-05T00:42:35 < jadew> that looks like openscad
2018-02-05T00:42:58 < jadew> what does it have to do with kicad?
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2018-02-05T00:44:53 < zyp> nice adidas
2018-02-05T00:45:13 < zyp> your keyboard is filthy as fuck
2018-02-05T00:45:29 < jadew> R2COM, I take it the simulations went fine?
2018-02-05T00:45:55 < jadew> weren't you doing some interpolation experiments?
2018-02-05T00:46:14 < jadew> or maybe that was me?
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2018-02-05T00:46:56 < jadew> was looking at the tablet and thinking: damn, that piece of paper looks fake
2018-02-05T00:47:21 < jadew> why is it outstanding?
2018-02-05T00:47:57 < zyp> how does it compare to surface bro?
2018-02-05T00:48:10 < jadew> it's not lagging?
2018-02-05T00:48:23 < jadew> my thinkpad tablet is a bit lagging
2018-02-05T00:49:10 < jadew> nice
2018-02-05T00:49:43 < jadew> the writing on it looks natural
2018-02-05T00:52:56 < jadew> can you print quadcopter propellers with a 3d printer?
2018-02-05T00:53:10 < jadew> are they strong enough?
2018-02-05T00:53:33 < zyp> probably not light enough
2018-02-05T00:54:00 < zyp> there's a strength/weight tradeoff, and 3d printers are not very good at it
2018-02-05T00:54:52 < jadew> don't know, my wife wants to get me one for my birthday and I have to pick one
2018-02-05T00:55:02 < zyp> as much as you want to put into it
2018-02-05T00:55:20 < jadew> so far, it looks like those CR-10S ones are pretty good
2018-02-05T00:55:22 < fest> R2COM: I was considering the same (iPad pro or Galaxy Tab S3)
2018-02-05T00:55:25 < jadew> high volume too
2018-02-05T00:55:37 < fest> in the end I went with Wacom bamboo
2018-02-05T00:55:57 < jadew> I have one of those too, doesn't work well on w10 tho
2018-02-05T00:56:11 < jadew> the resolution is reduced like... 4 times
2018-02-05T00:56:18 < jadew> so the lines have steps in them
2018-02-05T00:57:23 < jadew> you cought me, I want to print a flashlight that fits me
2018-02-05T00:57:48 < zyp> that's fairly expensive for a chinaprinter
2018-02-05T00:58:02 < zyp> but I guess it's the build volume that does that
2018-02-05T00:58:24 < jadew> zyp, got a better recommendation?
2018-02-05T00:58:47 < jadew> apparently the print quality is good on the CR-10
2018-02-05T00:59:38 < zyp> that's what I've been doing with mine
2018-02-05T00:59:46 < jadew> that's what I want mine for
2018-02-05T00:59:54 < jadew> but for prototyping
2018-02-05T00:59:56 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/7cInk.jpg
2018-02-05T01:00:03 < jadew> can you do small production batches?
2018-02-05T01:00:15 < zyp> define small
2018-02-05T01:00:37 < jadew> 10-20, for small boxes < 10x10x3cm
2018-02-05T01:00:43 < jadew> how long would that take?
2018-02-05T01:00:47 < zyp> R2COM, the holes? ventilation
2018-02-05T01:01:00 < jadew> that's a nice case
2018-02-05T01:01:12 < jadew> how long did it take to print?
2018-02-05T01:01:33 < zyp> hmm, don't remember, probably a bit less than an hour for each half
2018-02-05T01:01:35 < Lux> the specs on that one look nice: https://www.3dprintersbay.com/wanhao-duplicator-9
2018-02-05T01:02:03 < Lux> but I'd rather wait and see what they actually deliver, it isn't actually out yet
2018-02-05T01:02:41 < zyp> the surface is smooth, but it's transparent
2018-02-05T01:02:52 < zyp> the crossing lines are the layers you see
2018-02-05T01:02:58 < zyp> they are printed perpendicular to each other
2018-02-05T01:03:38 < zyp> .stl -> slic3r -> .gcode -> octoprint
2018-02-05T01:04:00 < jadew> I wanted to CNC something and used OpenSCAD
2018-02-05T01:04:17 < jadew> turns out it can't export to step and it's only good for 3d printing
2018-02-05T01:04:19 < zyp> replace slic3r with any other slicing software, but the workflow is the same
2018-02-05T01:04:29 < srk> jadew: it isn't. I did a bunch of cnc jobs with openscad
2018-02-05T01:04:31 < jadew> so OpenSCAD is a good choice for making 3d parts
2018-02-05T01:04:47 < srk> you need to use 2d subsystem and export to dxf
2018-02-05T01:04:48 < jadew> srk, how do you get the step file?
2018-02-05T01:04:50 < Steffanx> I own a CR-q
2018-02-05T01:04:51 < srk> for 2.5D
2018-02-05T01:05:07 < jadew> srk, hmm, interesting, I'll look into it
2018-02-05T01:05:09 < srk> jadew: I just don't do 3D, only 2.5D with DXFs
2018-02-05T01:05:10 < Steffanx> I own a CR-10 jadew
2018-02-05T01:05:16 < Steffanx> Its pretty damn huge
2018-02-05T01:05:21 < jadew> Steffanx, would you recommend it?
2018-02-05T01:05:25 < srk> jadew: you can convert 3d->2d object with projection()
2018-02-05T01:05:27 < Steffanx> S is even larger
2018-02-05T01:05:36 < Steffanx> Yes, jadew.
2018-02-05T01:05:41 < jadew> srk, interesting, thanks
2018-02-05T01:06:17 < Steffanx> It might need a few improvements, but it does a pretty good job
2018-02-05T01:06:49 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/aMDbF.jpg <- my pal printed this thing (the yellow parts) on a prusa i3 mk2s
2018-02-05T01:06:54 < zyp> that took a while :p
2018-02-05T01:07:00 < Steffanx> Gearbest has them discounted pretty ofted
2018-02-05T01:07:27 < jadew> zyp, nice
2018-02-05T01:07:36 < Steffanx> Not right now, R2COM
2018-02-05T01:07:47 < zyp> the prusa i3 seems nice, got a couple of friends with mk2s and one that just received an mk3
2018-02-05T01:09:01 < Steffanx> Yes. That would mainly be figuring out the proper settings/speeds etc.
2018-02-05T01:09:13 < zyp> if you want to do small detailed prints, you might be more interested in a resin printer
2018-02-05T01:09:40 < zyp> depends on the material and where you buy it
2018-02-05T01:09:55 < Steffanx> But in the mean time i added a auto bed leveling sensor and i replaced the hotend with an e3d
2018-02-05T01:09:57 < Lux> or you can try using a small nozzle, apparently that helps too with fine detailed stuff
2018-02-05T01:10:21 < Steffanx> Already spend way too much on this china printer
2018-02-05T01:11:04 < Lux> just be aware that resin prints won't last long
2018-02-05T01:11:25 < zyp> same friend that just got a mk3 also has that wanhao d7
2018-02-05T01:11:28 < Lux> from my experience that stuff degrades pretty fast and has a low mechanical strength
2018-02-05T01:11:52 < Steffanx> And i under estimated the size of the printer. Especially the huge Z axis is a bit much. I never printed > 10CM in that direction
2018-02-05T01:13:09 < zyp> Lux, I've been thinking about using it for printing a model to create a silicon mold from
2018-02-05T01:13:25 < zyp> no
2018-02-05T01:13:32 < zyp> filament diameter is just the input
2018-02-05T01:14:18 < zyp> filament typically comes in 3mm or 1.75mm, difference is just the diameter of the filament path towards the nozzle
2018-02-05T01:14:29 < zyp> so you get whatever fits your printer
2018-02-05T01:14:51 < zyp> what comes out of the nozzle is the same for a given input volume, regardless of what the input diameter was
2018-02-05T01:16:27 < zyp> dunno
2018-02-05T01:16:34 < Steffanx> If you want something that just works, probably not.
2018-02-05T01:16:59 < Steffanx> Its still a china hobby bobby machine
2018-02-05T01:17:02 < zyp> if you want cheap, you could look at anet a8 or tevo tarantula as well
2018-02-05T01:17:11 < zyp> those are also common china stuff
2018-02-05T01:17:15 < Steffanx> Oh and the control box is fucking terribly noisy
2018-02-05T01:17:30 < zyp> or since you're in the US, you could look at the monoprice stuff, they are supposedly good buys
2018-02-05T01:17:46 < Steffanx> I do.
2018-02-05T01:18:52 < Steffanx> Yes, but i did modified it quite a bit.
2018-02-05T01:18:55 < zyp> my impression is that for cheap shit, it doesn't matter much what you buy, you get pretty much the same anyway
2018-02-05T01:19:18 < zyp> and results are going to depend more on how well you set it up and tune it than which brand you buy
2018-02-05T01:19:49 < zyp> not familiar with that one
2018-02-05T01:19:56 < zyp> I mean, I'm not familiar with any of them
2018-02-05T01:20:18 < jadew> which one do you have?
2018-02-05T01:20:22 < Steffanx> I did read/watch some reviews, and in general they claimed the CR-10(S) was the best.
2018-02-05T01:20:38 < jadew> yeah, that's what youtube seems to suggest
2018-02-05T01:20:45 < Steffanx> The best in its semi low budget range
2018-02-05T01:21:05 < zyp> jadew, me? a modified sumpod
2018-02-05T01:21:32 < Steffanx> Gearbest sometimes even sells it for $250-300
2018-02-05T01:21:42 < zyp> I got a sumpod from the 2011 indiegogo shit or whenever that was, didn't get around to assemble it until last year
2018-02-05T01:21:57 < Lux> R2COM: i got the wanhao i3 v2.1 and with a few modifications it runs well. The monoprice one is the upgraded wanhao i3 plus version rebranded
2018-02-05T01:22:05 < zyp> put a new e3d hotend and extruder on it, so it prints well enough
2018-02-05T01:22:16 < Steffanx> R2COM: i believe upgrdman bought that one
2018-02-05T01:22:36 < Steffanx> Wakey wakey upgrdman
2018-02-05T01:22:40 < upgrdman> hi
2018-02-05T01:22:48 < jadew> do you need special air filtering when printing?
2018-02-05T01:23:00 < Lux> not with pla
2018-02-05T01:23:01 < jadew> like.. a fume extractor?
2018-02-05T01:23:11 < upgrdman> <R2COM> zyp  https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15711
2018-02-05T01:23:15 < upgrdman> yes i have this printer
2018-02-05T01:23:43 < jadew> seems like everyone has a printer but me and R2COM
2018-02-05T01:23:50 < zyp> jadew, ABS fumes are supposedly unhealthy to breathe, but other materials are not so bad
2018-02-05T01:23:53 < upgrdman> when printing small things, you will really want to upgrd the fan/shroud for cooling the filament
2018-02-05T01:23:59 < upgrdman> otherwise, very happy for the price
2018-02-05T01:24:07 < Steffanx> They do claim PLA does some micro particle crap, but.. shouldnt be an issue when you ventilate a bit
2018-02-05T01:24:09 < jadew> zyp, good to know, thanks
2018-02-05T01:24:20 < Steffanx> And dont use it 24/7 in the same room you are in
2018-02-05T01:24:41 < upgrdman> R2COM, i 3d printed a shroud and used a nicer fan
2018-02-05T01:24:53 < Lux> get a raspberry pi and run octoprint on it
2018-02-05T01:25:02 < upgrdman> R2COM, dont have pix but if you skim through this you can see some things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVnmmAIpoNg
2018-02-05T01:25:09 < upgrdman> that was BEFORE i upgrd'd
2018-02-05T01:25:10 < zyp> Lux, seconded
2018-02-05T01:25:29 < upgrdman> R2COM, i had a 24v fan, i cut off the stock connector and soldered it to my 24v fan
2018-02-05T01:25:34 < Lux> most convenient thing you can do :)
2018-02-05T01:27:55 < zyp> the better details you want, the slower you print
2018-02-05T01:27:57 < upgrdman> sold out, but microcenter carries the printer for $350 instead of the $400 you foudn
2018-02-05T01:27:58 < upgrdman> http://www.microcenter.com/product/486543/WanHao_Duplicator_I3_PLUS_3D_Printer
2018-02-05T01:28:11 < upgrdman> R2COM, ya aroudn that
2018-02-05T01:28:47 < upgrdman> without the new fan + custom shroud, if you print small things you have to print really slowly or the filament never has time to cool down. so it becomes a gummy mess since nothing "dries"
2018-02-05T01:28:51 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-05T01:28:55 < upgrdman> 3d printers are not fast
2018-02-05T01:29:19 < upgrdman> faggots often do >20 hour prints
2018-02-05T01:29:41 < zyp> that's the point
2018-02-05T01:29:43 < upgrdman> ya. print, make sure it seems fine, go to bed, wake up, enjoy
2018-02-05T01:29:45 < jadew> so... a flashlight would take like a week?
2018-02-05T01:29:53 < zyp> nah
2018-02-05T01:31:14 < jadew> to see at night
2018-02-05T01:31:44 < upgrdman> <upgrdman> http://www.microcenter.com/product/486543/WanHao_Duplicator_I3_PLUS_3D_Printer
2018-02-05T01:31:54 < upgrdman> <upgrdman> sold out
2018-02-05T01:32:21 < upgrdman> ya its good for the price. if you just want to plug-and-play, it's not quite there
2018-02-05T01:32:40 < upgrdman> the included software (cura) is usable
2018-02-05T01:32:41 < upgrdman> but
2018-02-05T01:33:04 < upgrdman> the include a old version. and for some shit reason, new versions of cura, even if i import the old settings, dont print as nicely for some reason
2018-02-05T01:33:37 < upgrdman> R2COM, the lcd menus have some chinglish, some quirks, but after you figure it out its fine
2018-02-05T01:34:33 < upgrdman> sometimes when it starts a print the shit stain of dribbling filament doesnt stick i nthe corner of the bed, so it fucked up the first layer. could probably be fixed by tweaking the start gcode, but i just monitor the first layer and then walk away.
2018-02-05T01:35:39 < upgrdman> $15 for 1kg of pla
2018-02-05T01:36:10 < upgrdman> http://www.microcenter.com/product/485629/175mm_Gray_PLA_3D_Printer_Filament_-_1kg_Spool_(22_lbs)
2018-02-05T01:36:26 < upgrdman> i've gone through half a kilo so far, but ya, a spool lasts a while.
2018-02-05T01:37:40 < Lux> on the wanhao i'd recommend upgrading to that stuff at some point: https://store.micro-swiss.com/collections/wanhao-duplicator-i3-pluse/products/all-metal-hotend-with-slotted-cooling-block-for-wanhao-i3
2018-02-05T01:38:02 < upgrdman> why
2018-02-05T01:38:15 < Lux> those pfte lined hotends will clogg at some point
2018-02-05T01:38:20 < Lux> and you can print faster
2018-02-05T01:38:37 < upgrdman> R2COM, 3 or 4 fan shouds (trying out shapes) and a bunch of bevel gears, and some stuff to prototype the centipede robot
2018-02-05T01:38:52 < Lux> and at higher temperatures
2018-02-05T01:39:17 < Lux> pfte emits nerve gas at >250°C
2018-02-05T01:39:30 < upgrdman> nice
2018-02-05T01:40:35 < upgrdman> no, 24v dan
2018-02-05T01:40:36 < upgrdman> fan
2018-02-05T01:40:43 < upgrdman> some sanyo denki i had laying around
2018-02-05T01:41:07 < upgrdman> prolly a $30 fan, lol, but i had it laying around. some nice 4 wire fan, balanced rotor, etc.
2018-02-05T01:41:08 < upgrdman> no
2018-02-05T01:41:14 < upgrdman> 40ish mm
2018-02-05T01:41:30 < upgrdman> prolly
2018-02-05T01:41:30 < Lux> if you cheap out you can also get chinese replacements: https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20180204154035&SearchText=mk10+all+metal
2018-02-05T01:41:49 < Lux> can only speak for the genuine stuff though, really makes a difference
2018-02-05T01:45:05 < upgrdman> enough for me
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2018-02-05T02:14:36 < polymorph> [23:47] <R2COM> it costed me $977 + tax, +$8 for that sketching app - retards with money lol
2018-02-05T02:15:57 < polymorph> i got some a4 papers free and i can draw on them with a pen or pencil
2018-02-05T02:22:28 < Thorn> are there trays for QFN? or only T&R?
2018-02-05T02:44:50 < dongs> https://jalopnik.com/tesla-model-3-teardown-by-engineering-firm-reveals-qual-1822678045 attn englishman
2018-02-05T02:48:01 < Thorn> ok so in lcsc you can have a reel of 0603 resistors for $3.5 but a reel of 0603 0.1µF caps is $39 wtf
2018-02-05T02:48:19 < dongs> Thorn: caps went up recently, what voltage?
2018-02-05T02:48:22 < dongs> lower voltage should be OK
2018-02-05T02:49:03 < Thorn> at least 16V & 25V seem to be about the same
2018-02-05T02:50:02 < Thorn> i.e. $30+
2018-02-05T02:50:07 < dongs> odd
2018-02-05T02:50:40 < Thorn> they also have weird price breaks. like a reel is 4000 and price breaks are at 3000 and 10000
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2018-02-05T03:35:43 < dongs> https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/2145447-sexycyborg-logo-less-yammering-more-hammering?store_id=142670 trannies get their own tshirts now
2018-02-05T03:36:39 < dongs> R2BRO laying down the truth
2018-02-05T03:49:10 < Laurenceb_> wew
2018-02-05T03:49:15 < Laurenceb_> R2COM is projecting
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2018-02-05T04:55:30 < dongs> zyp, which F4 is on teh boards? F427VG? no need to care bout rev3/whaever shit anymore?
2018-02-05T04:59:41 < dongs> nvm solved
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2018-02-05T09:20:12 < dongs> https://imgur.com/gallery/oVfRmii hello pals
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2018-02-05T09:46:11 < kakimir> is there a price difference in chinasourced pcb when you buy let's say 500 if you take 2layer or 4layer?
2018-02-05T09:47:02 < kakimir> kongs!
2018-02-05T09:47:20 < kakimir> dongson!
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2018-02-05T09:58:39 < srk> Don Gs!
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2018-02-05T09:59:38 < gjm> Kim Dzong Dong
2018-02-05T10:02:13 < kakimir> you made crt quit! Sweet!
2018-02-05T10:02:53 < gjm> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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2018-02-05T10:04:44 < kakimir> Dominator.
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2018-02-05T10:07:09 < zyp> dongs, been burning lipos now?
2018-02-05T10:10:08 < kakimir> I poked a lipo pack with a knive
2018-02-05T10:11:00 < kakimir> sparks were intense and then liquid stuff started boiling out of holes that were burned to cells by sparking
2018-02-05T10:11:55 < kakimir> I started inspecting them wet cells and took a sniff too
2018-02-05T10:12:20 < kakimir> to my suprise the wall is really thin
2018-02-05T10:14:07 < kakimir> like a soda can
2018-02-05T10:17:03 < c10ud> does any of you guys have any document for UL certs?
2018-02-05T10:17:29 < c10ud> e.g. design guidelines etc.
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2018-02-05T10:29:52 < srk>  /win 37
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2018-02-05T11:02:52 < polymorph>  <R2COM> polymorph i have almost 3 huge file folders filled with paper stacks with tech things in it which i constantly revise/modify that is a reason electronic solution was needed for me - a would take your job and laugh on you if i were around there
2018-02-05T11:03:18 < polymorph> retarded faggot tranny
2018-02-05T11:04:52 < polymorph> kakimir: it has lithium in it, it smells relaxing? ;}
2018-02-05T11:07:48 < kakimir> nah
2018-02-05T11:07:52 < kakimir> acidic smell
2018-02-05T11:12:55 < Steffanx> polymorph perhaps you should show you are better and not act like R2COM
2018-02-05T11:15:19 < PaulFertser> +1
2018-02-05T11:21:58 < polymorph> Steffanx: i was serious lol
2018-02-05T11:22:12 < polymorph> what's up?
2018-02-05T11:24:09 < Steffanx> That makes it even more silly. Especially since he is not here
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2018-02-05T11:24:40 < stvn> goodeye there sport
2018-02-05T11:25:06 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YypaxA2Gwg
2018-02-05T11:28:27 < stvn> is that wafel-fiend awake yet?
2018-02-05T11:28:28 < dongs> zyp: yea i was charging a dead lipo in Pb charging mode and forgot about ti
2018-02-05T11:29:08 < polymorph> dongs: now it is double dead?
2018-02-05T11:29:15 < jadew> why is this 3d printer so expensive? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-stock-CR-10S-3D-Printer-with-Filament-Monitor-and-Dual-Z-axis-300-300-400mm/272818292418
2018-02-05T11:29:31 < jadew> which parts are the bulk of the BOM price?
2018-02-05T11:29:31 < dongs> 1) uk 2) thats not expensive
2018-02-05T11:29:53 < stvn> dongs did u blow up lipo??
2018-02-05T11:29:54 < jadew> dongs, don't know, it looks expensive for what it actually is
2018-02-05T11:30:01 < dongs> stvn: didnt you see pics
2018-02-05T11:30:06 < stvn> n
2018-02-05T11:30:08 < dongs> stvn: < dongs> https://imgur.com/gallery/oVfRmii hello pals
2018-02-05T11:30:10 < stvn> did u email?
2018-02-05T11:30:36 < stvn> good work
2018-02-05T11:31:01 < stvn> mr. dong i got CL
2018-02-05T11:31:10 < dongs> craigslist?
2018-02-05T11:31:13 < polymorph> fire extingouisher kek
2018-02-05T11:31:16 < stvn> coffee mate
2018-02-05T11:31:26 < zyp> dongs, haha, nice
2018-02-05T11:31:38 < dongs> this happened in my server closet too
2018-02-05T11:31:39 < stvn> i7-8700
2018-02-05T11:31:43 < dongs> stvn: cool
2018-02-05T11:31:49 < stvn> no k tho :(
2018-02-05T11:31:53 < dongs> thats fine
2018-02-05T11:31:55 < dongs> K sucks anyway
2018-02-05T11:31:59 < dongs> i turned off all K shit on mine
2018-02-05T11:32:11 < dongs> like default optiosn on K make it use 500W at idle
2018-02-05T11:32:15 < dongs> fuck that gamer nonsense
2018-02-05T11:32:23 < stvn> yeh i never got a 'k' series
2018-02-05T11:32:34 < stvn> could have, just not retarded enough
2018-02-05T11:33:07 < stvn> i'm just looking forward to no nvidia heatwave
2018-02-05T11:33:25 < stvn> wouldn't do 4k with the integrated gpu though
2018-02-05T11:33:25 < polymorph> dongs: do you have a power supply that has a constant current and a voltage limit?
2018-02-05T11:33:39  * stvn throws a brick at polymorph 
2018-02-05T11:33:57  * polymorph catches
2018-02-05T11:34:07 < stvn> eat it.
2018-02-05T11:34:09 < polymorph> not gold ;/
2018-02-05T11:34:56 < stvn> where did you come from polymorph ?
2018-02-05T11:35:03 < dongs> stvn: wat?
2018-02-05T11:35:11 < dongs> igp can do 4K just fine
2018-02-05T11:35:18 < dongs> even multipel 4Ks
2018-02-05T11:35:26 < dongs> just dont use garbage like HDMI
2018-02-05T11:35:28 < stvn> not for skylake
2018-02-05T11:35:32 < dongs> yes for kikelake
2018-02-05T11:35:38 < stvn> was using DP all the way
2018-02-05T11:35:45 < stvn> thats when i got da 1060
2018-02-05T11:36:04 < dongs> HD530 right?
2018-02-05T11:36:18 < stvn> whatever comes with the 6700
2018-02-05T11:36:33 < dongs> Yes, at 60Hz
2018-02-05T11:36:33 < dongs> Max Resolution (HDMI 1.4)‡
2018-02-05T11:36:33 < dongs> 4096x2304@24Hz
2018-02-05T11:36:33 < dongs> Max Resolution (DP)‡
2018-02-05T11:36:33 < dongs> 4096x2304@60Hz
2018-02-05T11:36:37 < dongs> https://ark.intel.com/products/88196/Intel-Core-i7-6700-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz
2018-02-05T11:36:40 < dongs> yes dude,
2018-02-05T11:36:40 < polymorph> stvn: i don't remember sorry
2018-02-05T11:36:46 < stvn> 530 it is
2018-02-05T11:36:47 < dongs> i know cuz i've ran that same proc @ 4K with built in DP
2018-02-05T11:37:01 < stvn> same, wasn't happy at all
2018-02-05T11:37:12 < polymorph> dongs: https://i.stack.imgur.com/A0pQz.png  you cold have used something like this
2018-02-05T11:37:13 < dongs> yeah sure, i didn't say it was pretty
2018-02-05T11:37:21 < stvn> so gtx1060`d the problem
2018-02-05T11:37:34 < dongs> i GTX1060'd the problem wiht a quadro P2000
2018-02-05T11:37:39 < stvn> nice
2018-02-05T11:37:43 < dongs> which is a single slot gtx
2018-02-05T11:37:45 < dongs> 1060
2018-02-05T11:37:58 < dongs> fuck.
2018-02-05T11:38:03 < stvn> not 1060
2018-02-05T11:38:05 < dongs> entire room is still covered with pink powder
2018-02-05T11:38:08 < dongs> yes it is
2018-02-05T11:38:16 < dongs> its literally same PCB as 1060 too
2018-02-05T11:38:21 < dongs> nvidia are truly jews
2018-02-05T11:38:23 < stvn> hmmm
2018-02-05T11:38:30 < stvn> not the latest news...
2018-02-05T11:38:50 < dongs> the board was funny, typical 1060 ships wiht DVI and HDMI + 3 dp right
2018-02-05T11:38:52 < stvn> does quadro rip it up for your cad shit?
2018-02-05T11:38:55 < dongs> there's a dualsocket footprint for HDMI/DP
2018-02-05T11:39:04 < dongs> and some caps on teh back for the dp lanes
2018-02-05T11:39:09 < dongs> that are not placed in 1060 version
2018-02-05T11:39:11 < stvn> hah the jewing
2018-02-05T11:39:15 < dongs> and of course holes for the DVI trash
2018-02-05T11:39:21 < stvn>  \o/
2018-02-05T11:39:49 < dongs> if one knew nvidia's jewish ways you could probly turn a 1060 into quadro
2018-02-05T11:39:56 < dongs> its probably some jumper resistor somewehre
2018-02-05T11:40:03 < dongs> and desolder gay HDMI socket and DVI
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2018-02-05T11:40:20 < stvn> perhaps
2018-02-05T11:40:37 < dongs> polymorph: for what? i have a proper lipo charger. i was a retard and was charging it incorrectly because one of the cells was already shot.
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2018-02-05T11:40:52 < dongs> well, correction.
2018-02-05T11:40:56 < dongs> i *HAD* a proper lipo charger
2018-02-05T11:41:01 < dongs> its in the crispy pile of shit now
2018-02-05T11:41:28 < polymorph> dongs: i thought the charger refused to charge it because over-discharge and you tried to save it lol
2018-02-05T11:41:39 < dongs> correct.
2018-02-05T11:41:40 < stvn> hah
2018-02-05T11:42:18 < dongs> https://hobbyking.com/en_us/multistar-high-capacity-4s-10000mah-multi-rotor-lipo-pack.html 2 of these burned
2018-02-05T11:42:25 < dongs> well, one burned, and i was dumb enough to have a second one next to it
2018-02-05T11:42:51 < polymorph> dongs: if your intent was to destroy it then ok
2018-02-05T11:43:59 < dongs> where can I get a 3prong XT90
2018-02-05T11:44:18 < dongs> http://www.electriflite.co.uk/store17/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/0/10550.jpg
2018-02-05T11:44:41 < dongs> ah its called MT30
2018-02-05T11:44:43 < dongs> k
2018-02-05T11:45:34 < dongs> or MT60
2018-02-05T11:46:13 < stvn> fucking brits
2018-02-05T11:46:22 < dongs> not loading?
2018-02-05T11:46:35 < stvn> correct
2018-02-05T11:47:09 < stvn> fuck
2018-02-05T11:47:12 < stvn> i need vs express
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2018-02-05T11:51:40 < stvn> oh thanks microcunt i can have a trial
2018-02-05T11:51:47 < dongs> visual studio?
2018-02-05T11:51:49 < dongs> its free
2018-02-05T11:51:51 < dongs> the express trash
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2018-02-05T11:52:26 < stvn> yeah well now its 'community'
2018-02-05T11:52:31 < stvn> which sounds like pure aids
2018-02-05T11:52:46 < dongs> eya that
2018-02-05T11:52:53 < dongs> my pal uses it and claims its unlimited
2018-02-05T11:52:55 < stvn> i'd rather pay for the dog
2018-02-05T11:53:00 < stvn> probably is
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2018-02-05T11:53:27 < stvn> i only need to whip up some jizz for the ATE gear the engineer can't be bothered to do
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2018-02-05T12:00:26 < dongs> i guess i will need to make a fucking dcdc that disconnects from lipo when voltage drops so this shit doesnt happen again
2018-02-05T12:00:37 < dongs> hard to belive this shit doesnt exist ready made on hobbyking
2018-02-05T12:00:42 < dongs> but only sold by some UK scammers
2018-02-05T12:01:22 < dongs> https://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/smartbec
2018-02-05T12:01:24 < dongs> i mean $27
2018-02-05T12:01:29 < dongs> i could make my own pcb and assemble it
2018-02-05T12:01:30 < dongs> for that price
2018-02-05T12:01:34 < dongs> fucking jews
2018-02-05T12:01:43 < stvn> indeed
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2018-02-05T12:11:07 < tomeaton17> Tips for making a reverse engineering a schematic from a pcb?
2018-02-05T12:14:08 < dongs> do you have the layout data? if not, send it to china first to get that done
2018-02-05T12:15:40 < zyp> what part of it do you need to reverse engineer?
2018-02-05T12:17:15 < tomeaton17> Its actually not a schematic but a "shield" for a raspberry pi, and I need to convert this hand wired shield into a pcb. But the shield has some traces connect the wires that seem to go off to nowhere.
2018-02-05T12:18:16 < zyp> got photos?
2018-02-05T12:19:07 < tomeaton17> Actually the must be going to a ground plane
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2018-02-05T12:27:37 < Steffanx> jadew: i think you can use gearbest (be award of their sucky privacy issues) and their EU warehouses
2018-02-05T12:27:49 < tomeaton17> Shouldnt be too bad, but can't identify this component https://i.imgur.com/JCWpbGy.jpg
2018-02-05T12:28:03 < jadew> Steffanx, for purchasing a printer?
2018-02-05T12:29:02 < gjm> tomeaton17: it's a smd component?
2018-02-05T12:29:10 < gjm> looks like polymer fuse
2018-02-05T12:29:13 < jadew> https://www.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_779174.html
2018-02-05T12:29:39 < jadew> the price is better but does it ship from the EU?
2018-02-05T12:29:47 < jadew> wouldn't I have to pay customs?
2018-02-05T12:30:08 < dongs> which part of "that printer is absoulte garbage" you didn't get?
2018-02-05T12:30:22 < dongs> i guess if you dont mind trash then go ahead and waste your money on it
2018-02-05T12:30:26 < jadew> dongs, that's not what the reviews say
2018-02-05T12:30:27 < tomeaton17> gjm: Looks like it, and would the 05 be 5A?
2018-02-05T12:30:27 < gjm> jadew: >
2018-02-05T12:30:27 < gjm> Stock in:
2018-02-05T12:30:27 < gjm> China
2018-02-05T12:30:30 < jadew> which printer do you recommend?
2018-02-05T12:31:06 < dongs> i cant load any of hte fucking review pics
2018-02-05T12:31:07 < jadew> dongs, I don't know what to get, but I have to pick one by the end of this week
2018-02-05T12:31:11 < dongs> link me to a rewview that shows what it prints
2018-02-05T12:31:24 < dongs> https://review.gbtcdn.com/upload/gearbest/review/20180125/43097912CE91BF685FEB36BF603D8091_640-480.jpg
2018-02-05T12:31:27 < dongs> ha ha ha
2018-02-05T12:31:28 < dongs> yeah no
2018-02-05T12:31:54 < jadew> which one do you recommend?
2018-02-05T12:35:58 < tomeaton17> We have a makerbot replicator 2x at work which is excellent but its not cheap.
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2018-02-05T12:42:18 < tomeaton17> Any ideas of the company that makes this https://i.imgur.com/DVWyEX0.jpg is it even a company?
2018-02-05T12:42:40 < dongs> that looks like someone niggered a PTC fuse on a board
2018-02-05T12:42:52 < dongs> or something similar
2018-02-05T12:43:13 < tomeaton17> Yeah, well I cant get any support from the guy who made it as he is in prison
2018-02-05T12:43:19 < dongs> cool
2018-02-05T12:43:22 < tomeaton17> hence why I have to reverse engineer it lol
2018-02-05T12:43:34 < dongs> what the fuck is taht garbage
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2018-02-05T12:46:22 < tomeaton17> Its for a door system and these fuses are in series with vcc for the card readre
2018-02-05T12:46:42 < tomeaton17> Just wondering if anyone has come across that logo before
2018-02-05T12:47:05 < gjm> tomeaton17: http://www.littelfuse.com/products/resettable-ptcs/surface-mount.aspx
2018-02-05T12:48:57 < tomeaton17> Okay cool, need to find out its trip current rating
2018-02-05T12:51:29 < gjm> eh
2018-02-05T12:51:31 < gjm> tomeaton17: http://uk.farnell.com/littelfuse/microsmd005f-2/polyswitch-smd-1210-0-05a/dp/1345915
2018-02-05T12:54:28 < tomeaton17> gjm: Cool thanks, interesting that the card reader operates under 50m
2018-02-05T12:54:35 < tomeaton17> A
2018-02-05T12:55:55 < gjm> Do you have P/N of this card reader?
2018-02-05T12:56:56 < Steffanx> You would have to pick a EU. warehouse.
2018-02-05T12:57:02 < Steffanx> jadew:
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2018-02-05T13:01:05 < c10ud> tomeaton17, just try to understand the power consumption, you can choose a value later
2018-02-05T13:01:13 < c10ud> once you reversed everything else
2018-02-05T13:04:11 < tomeaton17> This is all the info I can get on it https://i.imgur.com/jhQ81S8.jpg
2018-02-05T13:05:29 < gjm> full china
2018-02-05T13:05:32 < gjm> dank
2018-02-05T13:06:20 < tomeaton17> Yeah..
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2018-02-05T13:14:37 < gjm> tomeaton17: do you have any other images?
2018-02-05T13:14:53 < Steffanx> jadew: i see there is no such warehouse for it
2018-02-05T13:14:56 < Steffanx> Sucks.
2018-02-05T13:15:10 < polymorph> dongs: https://i.stack.imgur.com/haxjS.jpg
2018-02-05T13:15:15 < Steffanx> Received mine within a week from blaxterland
2018-02-05T13:15:26 < polymorph> approximately this is the dcdc converter you need to cutoff your lipo
2018-02-05T13:16:03 < Steffanx> polymorph: where ohsix ?
2018-02-05T13:16:14 < polymorph> 7
2018-02-05T13:18:26 < tomeaton17> gjm: I have a front on image one second
2018-02-05T13:26:11 < gjm> it's veeery long second
2018-02-05T13:29:28 < tomeaton17> gjm https://i.imgur.com/lXoxtvo.jpg
2018-02-05T13:30:05 < stvn> retiring the old pumping rig https://i.imgur.com/YRGhtMf.jpg
2018-02-05T13:36:01 < gjm> nice hole :^)
2018-02-05T13:37:22 < dongs> what card reader lol
2018-02-05T13:37:32 < dongs> why would you eb surprised anything card-related is < 50mA
2018-02-05T13:38:38 < tomeaton17> yeah still need the maintenance guy to clean that up
2018-02-05T13:38:57 < dongs> Added support for STM32F1 code generation using the low-level libraries (LL)..
2018-02-05T13:38:57 < dongs> Added support for the TouchSensing and PDM2PCM middleware.
2018-02-05T13:41:53 < dongs> polymorph: not quite, but yeah
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2018-02-05T13:44:01 < dongs> i even had a circuit drawn somewehre to do it
2018-02-05T13:48:30 < stvn> a collage of phallic images
2018-02-05T14:26:25 < dongs> attn Thorn https://techcrunch.com/2018/02/04/elon-musk-shows-off-falcon-heavys-roadster-loving-artificial-astronaut/
2018-02-05T14:33:50 < Thorn> The first Falcon Heavy rocket will attempt to place a Tesla Roadster on an Earth escape trajectory into a heliocentric orbit. Delayed from 3rd Quarter of 2015 and April, September and December 2016. Delayed from 1st Quarter 2017, 2nd Quarter 2017 and 3rd Quarter 2017. Delayed from November and December 2017. Delayed from January.
2018-02-05T14:37:49 < tomeaton17> top keyk
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2018-02-05T15:08:25 < jadew> Steffanx, do you have an enclosure for it?
2018-02-05T15:08:38 < Steffanx> I made one from plexiglas
2018-02-05T15:08:48 < tomeaton17> Okay got to a weird part, does this look correct? https://i.imgur.com/h72I0nz.png da0 and da1 come from a weigand reader
2018-02-05T15:09:06 < Steffanx> But.. the printer is huuge, do the enclosure is huge
2018-02-05T15:09:33 < Steffanx> So i dissassembled it .. and kept using it without an enclosure. jadew
2018-02-05T15:09:46 < Steffanx> /do/so/
2018-02-05T15:09:54 < jadew> how big is it, this is the second time you mention that, you're scaring me
2018-02-05T15:11:45 < Steffanx> Have to measure it again, but iirc its around 60x60x6
2018-02-05T15:11:47 < Steffanx> 0
2018-02-05T15:11:48 < Steffanx> Cm
2018-02-05T15:12:23 < karlp> tomeaton17: you
2018-02-05T15:12:34 < karlp> have the same net names in two places, and you have nets connected together?
2018-02-05T15:13:01 < jadew> Steffanx, doesn't seem that bad
2018-02-05T15:13:24 < jadew> does it need extra space at the top for the wires or anything?
2018-02-05T15:13:30 < tomeaton17> karlp: Ignore the net names on the left, but on the board they seem to be connected as shown after the transistor. I dont understand
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2018-02-05T15:26:03 < tomeaton17> Ah it seems to be pullups
2018-02-05T15:32:12 < tomeaton17> fucks sake why didnt this guy write a schematic before get locked up smh
2018-02-05T15:34:39 < karlp> just redesign functionally equivalent instead?
2018-02-05T15:34:40 < englishman> if he's in prison then you should be able to access his computer
2018-02-05T15:37:16 < tomeaton17> Yeah I am asking my boss now to raid his harddrive
2018-02-05T15:37:35 < tomeaton17> bit risky as he was a paedophile lol.
2018-02-05T15:37:53 < tomeaton17> Reason why I want to still use current design is software is already written for this design
2018-02-05T15:38:20 < englishman> that doesnt make it uncloneable
2018-02-05T15:38:23 < englishman> from software alone
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2018-02-05T15:46:24 < tomeaton17> Do you know if there is a service that reverse engineers crappy protoboard projects
2018-02-05T15:48:21 < jadew> tomeaton17, if it's on a proto board, can't you just do that?
2018-02-05T15:48:42 < jadew> put the parts in kicad or something and start drawing wires between them
2018-02-05T15:48:51 < jadew> also, how complex could it be?
2018-02-05T15:50:27 < tomeaton17> This is a side project that I dont really have the time to work on. Its one of the protoboard/pcb shields for a raspberry pi so some of it is slightly confusing
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2018-02-05T15:53:11 < Steffanx> jadew: but my space valuable
2018-02-05T15:53:45 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, I don't think I have a space for it either
2018-02-05T15:54:16 < Steffanx> Jadew: Oh, thats excl the controller btw. Which is has a width of like 15cm
2018-02-05T15:54:41 < Steffanx> Controller box is also the filament spool mount.
2018-02-05T15:54:47 < jadew> yeah, I guess I can put that anywhere
2018-02-05T15:54:54 < jadew> oh
2018-02-05T15:55:13 < Steffanx> Yes and no. The length of the cables is pretty short
2018-02-05T15:55:28 < Steffanx> But they sell longer ones on ebay
2018-02-05T15:56:46 < Steffanx> Worst of it all is the noise of the fan of the psu in the controller box
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2018-02-05T16:36:16 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/female-electrical-engineer-from-pakistan/
2018-02-05T16:37:05 < jadew> makes sense
2018-02-05T16:38:16 < jadew> dongs, are there any jobs worth doing on that site?
2018-02-05T16:38:29 < jadew> in terms of earnings/hour?
2018-02-05T16:38:52 < dongs> not if you value your time or happen to come across someone who doesn't expect $5k job done for $50
2018-02-05T16:39:30 < jadew> yeah, that was my impression as well
2018-02-05T16:39:42 < jadew> lots of indian teams that work for close to nothing
2018-02-05T16:39:54 < dongs> i mean if you dont MIND doing retarded open-ended projects for $25 that take several days just to get requirements from a paki who can barely speak enlgish then sure
2018-02-05T16:40:02 < dongs> but if you ahve something else to do its probably not worth your time
2018-02-05T16:44:49 < jadew> just took a quick look, there's nothing there that isn't severely underpaid
2018-02-05T16:45:10 < jadew> ASIC design... highest bid 33 eur/hr
2018-02-05T16:45:38 < jadew> average bid 22/hr
2018-02-05T16:45:56 < dongs> haha
2018-02-05T16:46:03 < dongs> most of those "asic design" shit are some dumb paki homework courses
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2018-02-05T17:30:40 < Rob235> big 9 hour print today, time to get to the library!
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2018-02-05T17:37:18 < Laurenceb> wtf
2018-02-05T17:37:24 < Laurenceb> thats one shitty printer
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2018-02-05T17:57:25 < zyp> Laurenceb, or just a big print
2018-02-05T17:57:37 < Laurenceb> oh I thought a 2d print
2018-02-05T17:57:38 < Laurenceb> lol
2018-02-05T17:58:07 < BrainDamage> print a 2d printer
2018-02-05T17:58:34 < Laurenceb> sounds like something I'd be asked to do at wurk
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2018-02-05T18:17:45 < Steffanx> Waffle status: shipped.
2018-02-05T18:17:49 < Steffanx> oops. Wrong window much.
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2018-02-05T18:24:05 < Laurenceb> my thesis took 3 hours to print on shitty printer
2018-02-05T18:25:05 < sync> o0
2018-02-05T18:25:08 < sync> how so
2018-02-05T18:25:16 < Laurenceb> I was wondering if Rob was an epin author
2018-02-05T18:25:25 < Laurenceb> sync: about 8 copies of 300 pages each
2018-02-05T18:27:20 < dongs> Bank of America, Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase have announced that they're banning cryptocurrency purchases through their credit cards.
2018-02-05T18:27:24 < dongs> thank fuck
2018-02-05T18:27:37 < upgrdman> 300pgs. did you pad the fuck out of it like a high school kid? double spacing, slightly more kerning, size 12.5 instead of 12, etc.?
2018-02-05T18:27:42 < kakimir> I have done it again
2018-02-05T18:27:56 < Laurenceb> do it again Bomber Harris
2018-02-05T18:28:10 < kakimir> clearly 4layers required and I pump until it goes to 2layer
2018-02-05T18:28:32 < dongs> in kekcad, too?
2018-02-05T18:28:34 < Laurenceb> upgrdman eprints.nottingham.ac.uk/28735/
2018-02-05T18:28:50 < kakimir> dongs, is there price difference 2l vs 4l in chinasourced pcb product in few hundred unit range?
2018-02-05T18:29:16 < kakimir> it would be good to know that my work has been meaningless
2018-02-05T18:29:44 < Laurenceb> >not going 2l for the challenge
2018-02-05T18:29:56 < kakimir> it was fun..
2018-02-05T18:30:21 < kakimir> competitor board is 4layer
2018-02-05T18:30:30 < kakimir> and has nothing on it
2018-02-05T18:30:50 < kakimir> basically for the power from another end of board to another end
2018-02-05T18:31:08 < kakimir> connections to load and power input are in the opposite ends
2018-02-05T18:31:36 < kakimir> mine has ground next to output grounds and VIN next to high side switches
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2018-02-05T18:32:32 < Laurenceb> ^killed by thesis
2018-02-05T18:32:57 < Laurenceb> https://img.youtube.com/vi/Yio-9u8ORno/0.jpg
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2018-02-05T18:40:52 < kakimir> I bet at few hundred units there is still difference between 2l and 4l pricing
2018-02-05T18:44:11 < dongs> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/hot/32823296097.html retweeting
2018-02-05T18:44:48 < kakimir> autism
2018-02-05T18:45:42 < dongs> good eye
2018-02-05T18:45:50 < tomeaton17> Does this look like a reasonable circuit for weigand reader data line https://i.imgur.com/7KuussS.png I don't understand why there are so many pull ups
2018-02-05T18:46:11 < dongs> that looks like a level shifter
2018-02-05T18:46:29 < dongs> https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/application-note/AN10441.pdf page 4
2018-02-05T18:46:40 < dongs> for open-drain bus
2018-02-05T18:47:19 < dongs> which would make sense, if 5V trash was being sent to rageberry
2018-02-05T18:47:29 < tomeaton17> Okay that would make sense as weigand operates at 12v I think
2018-02-05T18:47:39 < dongs> i mean, would make sense if designer was a cheap cunt
2018-02-05T18:47:39 < tomeaton17> thanks
2018-02-05T18:47:41 < dongs> ^_-
2018-02-05T18:47:43 < dongs> np
2018-02-05T18:48:03 < tomeaton17> Well I wasnt the designer lol still reverse engineering this dudes work
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2018-02-05T19:04:36 < Laurenceb> is dat a hypeberry pi
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2018-02-05T19:08:19 < tomeaton17> When I run it in falstad the output goes from 3.3V to -5V is that right
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2018-02-05T19:10:50 < tomeaton17> http://tinyurl.com/y9lo8t9j
2018-02-05T19:12:54 < tomeaton17> eh my bad
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2018-02-05T19:19:06 < Steffanx> Yes, you bad tomeaton17 :p
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2018-02-05T19:27:21 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: are you sure you got the MOSFETs pinouts right?
2018-02-05T19:27:31 < Thorn> Falcon Heavy Test Flight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c
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2018-02-05T19:29:19 < Thorn> >falstad lol
2018-02-05T19:29:39 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: I think so.
2018-02-05T19:29:49 < tomeaton17> Yeah it worked in another sim
2018-02-05T19:30:06 < tomeaton17> also helped to give it 0-5v square not +-5v square
2018-02-05T19:30:20 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: with MOSFETs gate pulled to 3.3V? Usually people use gate to control the transistor.
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2018-02-05T19:31:23 < Thorn> except in the common gate configuration
2018-02-05T19:32:27 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: I am reverse engineering what I see in the protoboard, so will check it is functionally correct at the end. I have been told its a 5v-3.3V level shifter
2018-02-05T19:33:43 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: yes, looks like it should work, I just suck at FETs.
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2018-02-05T19:34:40 < Thorn> https://cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/an97055.pdf
2018-02-05T19:35:15 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: probably an even simpler way would be to use one series resistor and one zener.
2018-02-05T19:36:11 < PaulFertser> If you do not need it bi-directional.
2018-02-05T19:38:27 < PaulFertser> Thank you Thorn
2018-02-05T19:39:30 < tomeaton17> Thanks for the information PaulFertser and Thorn, the zener and resistor looks simple and I wonder why it was not implemented by the original designer
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2018-02-05T20:04:08 < rajkosto> https://images.techhive.com/images/article/2016/06/4-2-100667867-orig.jpg SMD Jumpers ?! :O
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2018-02-05T20:28:05 < Lux> tomeaton17: if your 5V side can tolerate 3.3V as high input you can also just run the i2c bus at 3.3V and save the level shifter
2018-02-05T20:28:40 < Lux> your side shouldn't drive the bus to 5V anyway
2018-02-05T20:28:45 < Lux> cheapest option
2018-02-05T20:30:45 < Lux> did that with an atmega at 5V to interface 3.3V i2c imu sensors years ago, worked well
2018-02-05T20:32:52 < Laurenceb> heh wut is that board?
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2018-02-05T20:44:03 < Laurenceb> ah kakimir is here https://imgoat.com/uploads/e9fc289c3f/82235.png
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2018-02-05T20:46:09 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-05T20:48:48 < BrainDamage> another quality link from laurenceb
2018-02-05T20:49:02 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/e9fc289c3f/82236.png
2018-02-05T20:49:06 < Laurenceb> btfo
2018-02-05T20:50:01 < Laurenceb> so thats why I'm retarded
2018-02-05T20:50:25 < BrainDamage> because you link shit 99% of the times?
2018-02-05T20:51:08 < Laurenceb> well muh iq is still higher than GERMans
2018-02-05T20:51:26 < englishman> higher than the typical ARROW webdev
2018-02-05T20:51:37 < englishman> who is having a 10% off sale btw
2018-02-05T20:51:40 < BrainDamage> an average property does not translate to the individual
2018-02-05T20:51:46 < BrainDamage> just as a probability chance
2018-02-05T20:52:15 < BrainDamage> englishman: have you considered becoming an arrow competitor?
2018-02-05T20:52:30 < kakimir> I bet Sweden had above 100 some time back
2018-02-05T20:52:54 < Laurenceb> forty eight percent https://imgoat.com/uploads/e9fc289c3f/82237.png
2018-02-05T20:53:01 < englishman> ordered 3 lines last week. 3 different shipments
2018-02-05T20:53:43 < englishman> i should return them and order again to get 10% off
2018-02-05T20:53:49 < Laurenceb> >we have watched have you have
2018-02-05T20:53:56 < Laurenceb> my sides
2018-02-05T20:57:47 < rajkosto> Laurenceb, no way finns are the smartest
2018-02-05T20:58:00 < Laurenceb> ^confirmed Swede
2018-02-05T20:58:03 < rajkosto> they have the worst language too
2018-02-05T20:58:20 < rajkosto> cant even swear properly
2018-02-05T21:01:28 < kakimir> swear properly?
2018-02-05T21:03:15 < Laurenceb> trolls trollin trolls in here right now
2018-02-05T21:06:26 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Fck4ux6sE finally proper swearing pronounciation of "perkele"
2018-02-05T21:07:59 < kakimir> you need to set headset volume to high to hear it properly
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2018-02-05T21:21:27 < Laurenceb> wew that insult in finnish
2018-02-05T21:21:33 < Laurenceb> I learnt something today
2018-02-05T21:22:47 < BrainDamage> perkele is an internet standard
2018-02-05T21:22:49 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69atYyxcz4o
2018-02-05T21:26:32 < Laurenceb> peak reddit https://imgoat.com/uploads/e9fc289c3f/82243.png
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2018-02-05T21:54:22 < kakimir> I need to wash my feet
2018-02-05T21:54:26 < kakimir> jesus
2018-02-05T21:54:53 < BrainDamage> for personal blogging, try pm'ing o6
2018-02-05T21:55:03 < Steffanx> lol.
2018-02-05T21:55:18 < Steffanx> where is ohsix?
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2018-02-05T22:09:35 < kakimir> jailer crt
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2018-02-05T22:37:16 < BrainDamage> kakkamir
2018-02-05T22:37:48 < Ecco> Hi :)
2018-02-05T22:37:57 < Steffanx> CrazyRandomTalk.
2018-02-05T22:38:06 < Ecco> Have you guys ever used the OTG FS controller?
2018-02-05T22:38:21 < Ecco> There's something that's bugging me: if I don't enable Vbus sensing, it doesn't seem to be working
2018-02-05T22:38:44 < karlp> hehe
2018-02-05T22:38:50 < karlp> are you sure you're reading teh right doc?
2018-02-05T22:39:04 < karlp> there's a conflicting bit in different versions of the core
2018-02-05T22:39:36 < Ecco> Well, I'm reading the right doc, but maybe not reading the doc right :-)
2018-02-05T22:39:56 < karlp> https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/blob/master/lib/usb/usb_f107.c#L65
2018-02-05T22:40:05 < Ecco> I'm using an STM32F412 which only has the OTG FS controller
2018-02-05T22:40:20 < Ecco> Yeah, exactly this
2018-02-05T22:40:22 < karlp> yeah, you have the "newer" one.
2018-02-05T22:40:26 < Ecco> yep
2018-02-05T22:40:44 < Ecco> My MCU only has VBDEN
2018-02-05T22:40:44 < karlp> you just have to do it right.
2018-02-05T22:41:00 < Ecco> The doc says "Enables VBUS sensing comparators to detect VBUS valid levels on the VBUS PAD for USB
2018-02-05T22:41:03 < Ecco> host and device operation."
2018-02-05T22:41:03 < karlp> that code shows how you can tell which hw you have at run time, it's a version id field in another register
2018-02-05T22:41:27 < Ecco> Yeah, I've understood this, and as a matter of fact on that specific MCU there's no question since it only has thta one field
2018-02-05T22:41:40 < Ecco> But my question is, why won't USB work at all if I just don't enable it?
2018-02-05T22:42:00 < karlp> "docs say, "do this to make it work" and you're asking why it doesn't work when you don't do that?"
2018-02-05T22:42:08 < Ecco> When I say "don't work", I mean that I don't get notified (GINTSTS) about Reset or speed enumeartion
2018-02-05T22:42:28 < Ecco> oh, sorry
2018-02-05T22:42:37 < Ecco> I mean, I saw it in the libopencm3 code
2018-02-05T22:42:41 < Ecco> but not in the doc
2018-02-05T22:43:23 < Ecco> The doc says this enables detecting valid Vbus levels, but I don't understand why this is mandatory
2018-02-05T22:44:01 < Ecco> And the doc says very little about this specific register (pretty much the only sentence that I've copy-pasted)
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2018-02-05T22:44:12 < karlp> maybe it's not, but is your hardwire _otherwise_ configured correctly to _not_ use it?
2018-02-05T22:44:24 < Ecco> that's a good question
2018-02-05T22:44:29 < Rob235> printing out my first set of walls, coming out awesome
2018-02-05T22:44:44 < Ecco> I just assumed I wouldn't need it since I simply wasn't doing anything vbus-related
2018-02-05T22:45:11 < Ecco> Apprently that's a wrong asumption, but I don't understand why :)
2018-02-05T22:48:39 < Ecco> Also, I'm having a hard time figuring out how you're supposed to actually read/write data from the USB controller
2018-02-05T22:48:57 < Ecco> My understanding is that you push and pop data by writing to (or reading from) a given address
2018-02-05T22:49:13 < Ecco> (those addresses being reffered to as FIFOs in the doc)
2018-02-05T22:49:27 < Ecco> What I quite don't understand is why the FIFO address range is so large
2018-02-05T22:50:56 < Steffanx> What do you pay for such thing at a library Rob235?
2018-02-05T22:51:00 < Steffanx> 9 hours printing = $$$ ?
2018-02-05T22:51:44 < Rob235> $2.50 per oz of filament. they weigh what you print
2018-02-05T22:52:01 < Ecco> e.g. the Data FIFO for IN EP 0 is 0x1000-0x1FFC
2018-02-05T22:52:01 < Rob235> 1oz = 28g
2018-02-05T22:54:32 < Rob235> a spool on the website is $48 for 900g, I would end up paying $80 here but I dont pay for supports, I rip em off before weighing my print, so its pretty fair
2018-02-05T22:54:56 < Steffanx> haha.
2018-02-05T22:55:00 < Steffanx> lol. They'll hate you for that
2018-02-05T22:55:18 < Rob235> they know about it, they have a little bin to throw it in for them to recycle
2018-02-05T22:55:34 < Rob235> they probably didn't expect anyone to use as much support material as I do though ;)
2018-02-05T22:56:46 < Rob235> only two more parts to design
2018-02-05T22:56:47 < Steffanx> Give a millenial a finger and they'll take your whole hand.
2018-02-05T22:58:34 < Rob235> im no millenial, bleh
2018-02-05T23:00:13 < Ecco> ok, thank you karlp, I read everything about Vbus and understand why it's actually needed
2018-02-05T23:00:33 < Ecco> I just thought it was something one could ignore
2018-02-05T23:01:20 < Ecco> No I quite don't understand why the FIFO adress range is so wide. I would have assumed it was a single address you would read from to "pop" data (and write to to push data)
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2018-02-05T23:16:27 < zyp> «If you are still interested in receiving your complimentary MAXAUTHDEMO1# kit, please download and complete this “Civil End User Statement” and reply back to this email thread attaching the signed completed copy*.»
2018-02-05T23:21:21 < englishman> itar'd
2018-02-05T23:23:21 < fest> any suggestions for wide bandwidth accelerometer?
2018-02-05T23:23:35 < zyp> I'm just wondering if it's worth printing/signing/scanning that shit just to get another useless kit to throw in a box
2018-02-05T23:24:29 < fest> current winner is Kionix KX224-1053 which has a minimum of 2.8kHz of usable bandwidth for every axis if I didn't miss anything
2018-02-05T23:25:56 < Steffanx> is it free zyp?
2018-02-05T23:26:13 < karlp> zyp: well, you get an i2c dongle too!
2018-02-05T23:26:50 < karlp> (with dubious docs or chances of using it as one)
2018-02-05T23:30:59 < zyp> Steffanx, yeah
2018-02-05T23:32:04 < Steffanx> i guess i wouldnt bother for a $12 thingy.
2018-02-05T23:33:06 < karlp> you still won't be able to get the docs without sending them an NDA application discussing how many items you're planning on building
2018-02-05T23:33:13 < karlp> it's really a kinda dumb project from them
2018-02-05T23:37:50 < sync> fest: it claims ODR/2
2018-02-05T23:38:16 < sync> which would mean 12800Hz o0
2018-02-05T23:38:32 < fest> sync: the analog bw is 3600 for Z axis
2018-02-05T23:38:46 < fest> and mechanical resonance for Z axis at 3000Hz
2018-02-05T23:39:00 < fest> so realistically I need to use ODR/9 LPF
2018-02-05T23:40:20 < fest> oh, the resonance was at 3600Hz for Z axis
2018-02-05T23:41:09 < fest> right, the bandwidth is specified at 12.8kHz
2018-02-05T23:41:37 < sync> yes
2018-02-05T23:42:21 < fest> damn, and this one didn't have that ODR/9 LPF
2018-02-05T23:42:35 < fest> I have mixed that up with some other kionix part
2018-02-05T23:43:14 < sync> why don't you sample at full tilt and LPF yourself?
2018-02-05T23:45:15 < fest> I wanted to avoid aliasing
2018-02-05T23:54:52 < fest> hmm, maybe I could use KX220-1072, LPF the output in analog domain and feed it to ADC
2018-02-05T23:56:25 < fest> argh, not available at distributors yet
2018-02-05T23:56:44 < fest> I'd probably fuck up the analog design anyways
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2018-02-05T23:57:14 < fest> I wonder if I could characterize the mechanical resonance and compensate for it
2018-02-05T23:57:57 < fest> I'm only interested in frequency domain anyway
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2018-02-06T00:25:29 < englishman> falcon heavy launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c
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2018-02-06T00:31:30 < Steffanx> Cancelled?
2018-02-06T00:31:48 < Steffanx> For today?
2018-02-06T00:32:03 < englishman> Live in 20 hours
2018-02-06T00:32:23 < Steffanx> 19 it says.
2018-02-06T00:32:31 < BrainDamage> after like 3 years delay one can afford 20h more
2018-02-06T00:32:40 < Steffanx> Thought it was planned foe today
2018-02-06T00:32:43 < Steffanx> For*
2018-02-06T00:32:48 < BrainDamage> sorry, 5
2018-02-06T00:33:45 < Steffanx> :¶
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2018-02-06T00:35:03 < BrainDamage> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/SpaceX_Falcon_Heavy_schedule_delays.png
2018-02-06T00:35:03 < BrainDamage> they almost managed a straight line
2018-02-06T00:35:12 < BrainDamage> taking the 'tomorrow recursively' joke a bit too seriously
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2018-02-06T00:57:32 < polymorph> hello
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2018-02-06T00:59:30 < polymorph> *note, don't touch live 230VAC hot with grounded soldering iron tip
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2018-02-06T01:56:01 < Cracki> arc welding SMT, eh
2018-02-06T02:00:58 < polymorph> :)
2018-02-06T02:01:32 < polymorph> Cracki: arc soldering
2018-02-06T02:01:38 < polymorph> it was a blast!
2018-02-06T02:02:49 < polymorph> the tip now has a crater in it
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2018-02-06T04:18:18 < upgrdman> how to handle logitech keyboards:  https://i.imgur.com/dyvywAg.gifv
2018-02-06T04:20:08 < sync> yes
2018-02-06T04:20:44 < dongs> what is that
2018-02-06T04:20:56 < dongs> some kinda acid?
2018-02-06T04:22:22 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2018-02-06T04:22:31 < Laurenceb_> hot oil?
2018-02-06T04:23:09 < dongs> no way, that shit completely destroys FR4 and plastic
2018-02-06T04:23:16 < dongs> while not looking very boily
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2018-02-06T04:26:24 < Laurenceb_> hmm good point
2018-02-06T04:26:28 < Laurenceb_> pcb went too
2018-02-06T04:26:36 < Laurenceb_> maybe concentrated nitric acid
2018-02-06T04:27:16 < ColdKeyboard> Are there any issues with RTC crystal on BluePill (STM32F103) from eBay? I runs intermittently, like sometimes it will be accurate on the dot for 2 days and then suddently drift for 40minutes. Or sometimes it starts drifting after couple of minutes... And it's always laging behind
2018-02-06T04:27:31 < dongs> lol
2018-02-06T04:27:34 < dongs> terrible
2018-02-06T04:27:40 < Laurenceb_> sounds like its stopping oscillating
2018-02-06T04:27:46 < dongs> is there an external RTC on that thing even?
2018-02-06T04:27:50 < dongs> one of those 2 pin metal cans?
2018-02-06T04:27:51 < Laurenceb_> maybe look at signal with a scope
2018-02-06T04:27:58 < Laurenceb_> maybe something is marginal
2018-02-06T04:28:16 < Laurenceb_> my F103 RTC is crazy accurate after trimming
2018-02-06T04:28:24 < Laurenceb_> minute or two per year
2018-02-06T04:29:00 < ColdKeyboard> Laurenceb_: I know, that's why I'm asking is it the crystal or something. My Nucleo-103 was running for months and was accurate withing couple of seconds
2018-02-06T04:29:22 < ColdKeyboard> This board has some RTC crystal on it, and it's precise for some time
2018-02-06T04:29:42 < ColdKeyboard> What would cause it to stop oscillating? Bad soldering, bad crystal or something else?
2018-02-06T04:30:22 < Laurenceb_> probably wrong drive in some way
2018-02-06T04:30:59 < Laurenceb_> or dry joint, but seems less likely
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2018-02-06T04:31:46 < ColdKeyboard> Hmmm, I can try adding a bit of solder to it. On scope signal looks okay, sinusoide with DC offset
2018-02-06T04:31:47 < Rob235> I'm kind of amazing
2018-02-06T04:32:03 < Laurenceb_> no you're not
2018-02-06T04:32:10 < Laurenceb_> ur a incel 4 sure
2018-02-06T04:32:16 < Laurenceb_> and thats just for starters
2018-02-06T04:32:46 < Laurenceb_> ColdKeyboard: read the app note on F1 RTC, and compare your drive strength
2018-02-06T04:32:53 < Laurenceb_> ok enough trollin, time to sleep
2018-02-06T04:33:21 < ColdKeyboard> Will do. Thanks for suggestions Laurenceb_
2018-02-06T04:35:31 < Rob235> incel?
2018-02-06T04:35:32 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/LfvCQ
2018-02-06T04:35:49 < Rob235> the shininess makes it look shitty and I'm still removing the supports that it didnt even need but it came out really good
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2018-02-06T04:37:33 < upgrdman> dongs, Laurenceb: supposedly its acetone
2018-02-06T04:38:21 < upgrdman> https://gfycat.com/ThirdSaltyHuia
2018-02-06T04:47:41 < upgrdman> hahaha   https://i.redd.it/5g58dduj0ge01.jpg
2018-02-06T04:53:41 < MrMobius> lol
2018-02-06T04:53:49 < MrMobius> only place worse than se is irc
2018-02-06T04:54:40 < MrMobius> people link you to lmgtfy but your question is not answered within the first 8,000 links
2018-02-06T04:54:59 < MrMobius> bc why would you torture yourself talking to the people on here if it were
2018-02-06T04:57:37 < Rob235> irc is for passing time and talking to yourself
2018-02-06T04:57:50 < englishman> anyone have a 5.5x2.5mm barrel jack handy? does the 5.5mm OD actually measure 5.2mm
2018-02-06T04:58:01 < Rob235> and getting your daily insults
2018-02-06T04:59:54 < MrMobius> amd trolling shitty ukrainians
2018-02-06T05:00:05 < MrMobius> or just ttrolling ukrainians. they are all shits
2018-02-06T05:00:56 < dongs> what is SE
2018-02-06T05:01:35 < MrMobius> stack exchange
2018-02-06T05:01:46 < dongs> lol, aka blind leading the blind exchange
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2018-02-06T10:01:59 < tct_> pic or didn't happen
2018-02-06T10:05:56 < tct_> 0.0045
2018-02-06T10:08:46 < polymorph> dumb hillybillys pouring molten aluminium in shorts and sandals, also dropping foke iphone in it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyTxxEhS4uc
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2018-02-06T12:06:51 < stvn> put the gun down
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2018-02-06T12:34:47 < Steffanx> 👍🏼
2018-02-06T12:36:23 < stvn> hi'
2018-02-06T12:37:13 < polymorph> stvn: no
2018-02-06T12:37:35 < stvn> too late
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2018-02-06T13:42:28 < kakimir> elecrow says board will not be dispatched before end of month
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2018-02-06T13:44:10 < stvn> kick them in the shin
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2018-02-06T14:06:13 < kakimir> what do you think of pcbways?
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2018-02-06T14:10:24 < karlp> good luck getting china pcb before end of month
2018-02-06T14:11:57 < kakimir> they promise shipping for express24 order for few days
2018-02-06T14:12:28 < kakimir> and quite limited options with pcb parameters ofc
2018-02-06T14:12:35 < kakimir> like 1-2layer etc.
2018-02-06T14:12:56 < jpa-> remember chinese newyear
2018-02-06T14:13:41 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-06T14:13:47 < kakimir> I'm talking just about that
2018-02-06T14:14:23 < kakimir> https://www.pcbway.com/spring-festival.aspx
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2018-02-06T14:26:55 < jadew> ffs... DHL is the fucking worst
2018-02-06T14:27:08 < jadew> fucking thievs
2018-02-06T14:27:55 < jadew> I choose not to pay the customs fee they ask, about ~$30, and instead to pay the customs myself
2018-02-06T14:28:19 < jadew> because of that they fucking delay telling me how much I have to pay for customs
2018-02-06T14:28:46 < jadew> this is the 4th working day without an answer
2018-02-06T14:29:48 < jadew> if you pay that shitty tax they quote you the same fucking day
2018-02-06T14:31:52 < jadew> not companies are the same isn't it?
2018-02-06T14:32:19 < jadew> I mean... I've come to recognize companies ran by scum
2018-02-06T14:32:27 < jadew> they're quite a few
2018-02-06T14:32:44 < jadew> they treat everyone bad, customers, employees, etc
2018-02-06T14:33:14 < jadew> and they seem to employ only jerks in management positions
2018-02-06T14:33:46 < jadew> so there's no chance for rehabilitation
2018-02-06T14:34:03 < jadew> they actually want those kind of people to be in charge of their employees
2018-02-06T14:41:15 < jpa-> jadew: here in finland they tried to put a fee on doing the customs yourself also; took a year before the consumer protection bureau put an end to that
2018-02-06T14:42:18 < jadew> jpa-, I'm surprised they didn't do it here
2018-02-06T14:42:54 < jadew> at this point, they're just as slow as regular post
2018-02-06T14:43:16 < jpa-> we have that covered, our national post office is degrading their service all the time
2018-02-06T14:43:35 < jadew> heh
2018-02-06T14:45:12 < zyp> here there's a handling fee on doing customs yourself which makes it fairly pointless
2018-02-06T14:45:49 < jadew> should that shit be illegal? considering you've already paid for shipping?
2018-02-06T14:46:00 < jpa-> they considered it illegal here
2018-02-06T14:47:18 < jadew> I mean, that's what they're supposed to do, handle your fucking package until it gets to your door
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2018-02-06T16:17:35 < kakimir> #esd32 crew
2018-02-06T16:17:51 < kakimir> can I connect my desktop matt with 0ohm lead to mains grounding?
2018-02-06T16:18:23 < BrainDamage> yes, but you won't achieve much
2018-02-06T16:24:40 < BrainDamage> you need to refer everything to the same potential
2018-02-06T16:25:00 < BrainDamage> that you achieve by connecting everything to mains gnd, or just the mat, doesn't matter
2018-02-06T16:25:36 < BrainDamage> altought oscope and soldering iron, etc are grounded by default, so it helps a *tiny* bit
2018-02-06T16:26:16 < kakimir> my ts100 is grounded?
2018-02-06T16:26:27 < kakimir> one day did some solderings with live circuit
2018-02-06T16:26:29 < BrainDamage> no
2018-02-06T16:26:31 < kakimir> :]
2018-02-06T16:26:42 < BrainDamage> it has a separate attachment for grounding
2018-02-06T16:26:52 < kakimir> is there full isolation to tip?
2018-02-06T16:26:56 < kakimir> or some high resistance?
2018-02-06T16:27:07 < BrainDamage> that's for you to discover :P
2018-02-06T16:27:18 < kakimir> BrainDamage, I mean should I have 1M resistance to matt like to everything else
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2018-02-06T16:27:35 < kakimir> there was no 1M lead for the matt in the kit
2018-02-06T16:27:48 < BrainDamage> the mat itself is many MOhm
2018-02-06T16:28:03 < BrainDamage> the problem happends between the /other/ things that aren't the map
2018-02-06T16:28:04 < BrainDamage> mat
2018-02-06T16:28:38 < BrainDamage> when you converge all the wiring there, there can be a connection from say, soldering iron to psu gnd with low impedance
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2018-02-06T16:56:33 < kakimir> guise
2018-02-06T16:56:51 < kakimir> I try to use jlink in windows machine first time
2018-02-06T16:59:57 < kakimir> it's just blinking it's led
2018-02-06T17:00:05 < kakimir> zadig can not see it
2018-02-06T17:00:31 < karlp> why do you need zadig for "pro" usb products?
2018-02-06T17:01:24 < kakimir> to utilize openocd like I do in lunix
2018-02-06T17:01:39 < PaulFertser> kakimir: do you see the device in "Device manager"?
2018-02-06T17:02:11 < kakimir> nope
2018-02-06T17:02:11 < Steffanx> Whats the advantage of openocd over the segger gdb server?
2018-02-06T17:02:31 < kakimir> Steffanx, it doesn't softbrick
2018-02-06T17:02:31 < PaulFertser> kakimir: then it's some usb level problem, like bad usb port or some such?
2018-02-06T17:03:00 < Steffanx> Softbrick what kakimir? You have a clone?
2018-02-06T17:03:01 < PaulFertser> kakimir: because even without any drivers windows shows all usb devices in device manager.
2018-02-06T17:03:14 < kakimir> okay tried another usb
2018-02-06T17:03:18 < kakimir> not blinking
2018-02-06T17:03:40 < kakimir> Steffanx, I have a pile
2018-02-06T17:03:56 < kakimir> I used to buy one every time I softbricked one
2018-02-06T17:04:03 < kakimir> before I learned to flash them
2018-02-06T17:04:20 < Steffanx> Is that a: yes, its a clone? ;)
2018-02-06T17:04:38 < kakimir> ofc
2018-02-06T17:04:55 < PaulFertser> kakimir: first you need to see windows saying "new usb device detected" and showing "unknown device" in device manager.
2018-02-06T17:05:09 < kakimir> now my windows is saying J-LINK
2018-02-06T17:05:09 < PaulFertser> And it always happens automatically with all working usb devices.
2018-02-06T17:05:15 < kakimir> so it's good
2018-02-06T17:05:17 < PaulFertser> Then you can use zadig
2018-02-06T17:05:23 < kakimir> then I need to zadig winusb to it?
2018-02-06T17:05:35 < PaulFertser> Yes
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2018-02-06T17:05:48 < kakimir> done
2018-02-06T17:06:16 < PaulFertser> Then openocd should work as usual.
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2018-02-06T17:57:59 < kakimir> I think my china pcb order made it
2018-02-06T17:58:11 < kakimir> it reads "In Fabrication"
2018-02-06T17:58:30 < kakimir> and they still receive express24 orders for a few days
2018-02-06T17:58:41 < kakimir> but they said customs is another thing
2018-02-06T17:58:47 < kakimir> chinese customs
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2018-02-06T18:38:36 < PaulFertser> kakimir: does openocd work now for you on windows?
2018-02-06T18:39:12 < kakimir> I got caught writing an email
2018-02-06T18:39:30 < kakimir> I'll see in the night or tommorow
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2018-02-06T19:01:03 < Rob235> last part to design, the end effector!
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2018-02-06T19:07:01 < tomeaton17> christ why is librecad so confusing I can't even divide a simple line
2018-02-06T19:09:15 < kakimir> I have never finished my board so quickly
2018-02-06T19:09:19 < kakimir> like in a day
2018-02-06T19:09:37 < zyp> how quickly?
2018-02-06T19:09:44 < kakimir> like in a day
2018-02-06T19:09:49 < zyp> referring to what?
2018-02-06T19:09:55 < jadew> depends a lot on the board
2018-02-06T19:10:15 < kakimir> I'm talking about high density board 45mm x 83mm
2018-02-06T19:10:18 < kakimir> 2layer
2018-02-06T19:10:22 < kakimir> lot of fukkery
2018-02-06T19:10:35 < zyp> that's not saying a lot
2018-02-06T19:10:42 < Steffanx> Did u use altidongs?
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2018-02-06T19:13:25 < Rob235> what do you use 2d cad software for
2018-02-06T19:16:23 < kakimir> draw dicks
2018-02-06T19:16:35 < kakimir> now give me internet points
2018-02-06T19:16:53 < Rob235> you have to draw the dicks to get points
2018-02-06T19:18:31 < mwfc> you can do an ICO and sell them that way.
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2018-02-06T19:38:22 < kakimir> how many dickbutts you can hide in pcb?
2018-02-06T19:39:01 < Laurenceb> that reminds me
2018-02-06T19:39:12 < Laurenceb> I was thinking of a pcb hash function
2018-02-06T19:39:19 < Laurenceb> for use in airport security
2018-02-06T19:39:30 < kakimir> pcb hash?=
2018-02-06T19:39:43 < Laurenceb> x-ray tronics -> hash and pcbs -> look in database -> load model of the device
2018-02-06T19:39:51 < kakimir> nice
2018-02-06T19:39:55 < Laurenceb> then compare to find explosive filled tronics
2018-02-06T19:40:09 < Laurenceb> there is a megabux prize open from uk gov for this sort of thing
2018-02-06T19:40:11 < kakimir> is it a thing?
2018-02-06T19:40:16 < kakimir> sure
2018-02-06T19:40:25 < kakimir> UK gov - sweet
2018-02-06T19:40:28 < Laurenceb> but I'm too lazy to enter
2018-02-06T19:40:33 < Laurenceb> but so is everyone else
2018-02-06T19:40:39 < Laurenceb> deadline keeps being extended
2018-02-06T19:40:53 < BrainDamage> isn't it simpler to simply detect the explosive rather than the detonator/clock?
2018-02-06T19:41:04 < BrainDamage> there's chemical fuzes too
2018-02-06T19:41:06 < kakimir> it is
2018-02-06T19:41:11 < Laurenceb> not if they are hidden
2018-02-06T19:41:13 < kakimir> but UK gov
2018-02-06T19:41:23 < BrainDamage> i mean by xray scattering properties
2018-02-06T19:41:23 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage: pcb is used to work out what the device is
2018-02-06T19:41:34 < kakimir> BrainDamage, a dog - simply
2018-02-06T19:41:36 < Laurenceb> then model of what the device should look like is loaded
2018-02-06T19:41:44 < BrainDamage> yes, but why
2018-02-06T19:41:48 < Laurenceb> then compared with a visual diff on the screen
2018-02-06T19:42:00 < Laurenceb> so modifications can be found
2018-02-06T19:42:00 < kakimir> you can get like 1000dogs just for the price of the megabux project
2018-02-06T19:42:00 < BrainDamage> that only lets you catch tampered devices
2018-02-06T19:42:08 < Laurenceb> thats what the gov asked for...
2018-02-06T19:42:09 < kakimir> trained doges
2018-02-06T19:42:16 < kakimir> home>
2018-02-06T19:42:24 < kakimir> or whatever to call it
2018-02-06T19:42:26 < BrainDamage> but not all tampered devices are bombs, and not all bombs use tampered electronics
2018-02-06T19:42:32 < Laurenceb>  "detection of tampered electronic devices using cots hardware"
2018-02-06T19:42:37 < Laurenceb> is the challenge
2018-02-06T19:42:50 < kakimir> sounds clusterfucky project
2018-02-06T19:42:59 < kakimir> needs AI and all certainly
2018-02-06T19:43:05 < Laurenceb> prob lol
2018-02-06T19:43:17 < Laurenceb>  "put it all into a neural network and hope for the best"
2018-02-06T19:43:53 < Laurenceb> its funny cuz the prize money is still less than I have to work on babby shake
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2018-02-06T20:13:50 < tomeaton17> may have asked this before, what date code style do you guys use on your pcbs
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2018-02-06T20:37:30 < kakimir> let the AI learn all the electronics
2018-02-06T20:41:01 < zyp> tomeaton17, in what sense?
2018-02-06T20:42:09 < zyp> I don't tend to put dates on a pcb, but if I did, I'd use some subset of ISO8601
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2018-02-06T20:42:38 < zyp> i.e. YYYY-MM or YYYY-MM-DD depending on whatever precision is desired
2018-02-06T20:42:54 < Thorn> 2045 UTC
2018-02-06T20:44:20 < Thorn> tomeaton17: I put yyyy-mm and revision (alphabetical, not numeric) onto every pcb
2018-02-06T20:45:36 < zyp> I just use revisions
2018-02-06T20:45:38 < Thorn> >decision to load propellants into the Falcon Heavy is due at T-1:28 (T-88 minutes). If winds are still an issue, they may decide to call off the launch before beginning.
2018-02-06T20:46:00 < zyp> are there any active streams now?
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2018-02-06T20:49:45 < Thorn> there is apparently a spaceflightnow members only stream
2018-02-06T20:51:14 < Thorn> >There is one collision avoidance cutout in the remainder of today's launch window at 3:56 p.m. EST (2056 GMT). The Falcon Heavy cannot launch at that time to ensure it does not get too close to another object already in space.
2018-02-06T21:12:48 < Thorn> decision in 5 min
2018-02-06T21:14:26 < BrainDamage> detonation when
2018-02-06T21:17:47 < Steffanx> nevah
2018-02-06T21:19:47 < Thorn> we are go for propellant load
2018-02-06T21:20:05 < Steffanx> whats Thorn's source of this?
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2018-02-06T21:21:46 < BrainDamage> https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/02/05/falcon-heavy-demo-flight-mission-status-center/
2018-02-06T21:21:58 < BrainDamage> they are pumpin'
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2018-02-06T21:38:57 < Steffanx> ty BrainDamage
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2018-02-06T21:47:53 < tct_> guys, which one is pin 1? There are two marks q__q    https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/H6qEnm0.jpg
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2018-02-06T21:52:27 < Steffanx> have you read the datasheet sir mr tct_?
2018-02-06T21:52:43 < Steffanx> From this view its the top right
2018-02-06T21:53:02 < Steffanx> or when you can read the text properly is the bottom left one :P
2018-02-06T21:54:54 < Laurenceb> haha tct_
2018-02-06T21:55:02 < Laurenceb> I've got confused once
2018-02-06T21:55:13 < Laurenceb> melted one
2018-02-06T21:55:21 < Steffanx> did you read the datasheet mr sir Laurenceb?
2018-02-06T21:55:31 < Laurenceb> I think I was high
2018-02-06T21:56:03 < Steffanx> High from reading 4ch?
2018-02-06T21:56:05 < BrainDamage> the small dot is the pin 1 usually
2018-02-06T21:56:54 < tct_> didn't know that the texts are always aligned the same time
2018-02-06T21:57:01 < tct_> the same way*
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2018-02-06T22:09:07 < Laurenceb> holy shit youtube live chat
2018-02-06T22:09:11 < Laurenceb> 4chan have arrived
2018-02-06T22:09:37 < Laurenceb> >DO YOU KNOW DA WAY 2 MARS
2018-02-06T22:09:40 < Laurenceb> irl lollin
2018-02-06T22:09:52 < Thorn> >603,141 waiting
2018-02-06T22:09:59 < kakimir> laurenceb is easily entertained
2018-02-06T22:10:16 < Laurenceb> ywlts 4chan raid the livestream for worlds largest rocket
2018-02-06T22:10:17 < kakimir> falkon hevi
2018-02-06T22:10:37 < englishman> cool i thought i was going to miss it
2018-02-06T22:10:59 < kakimir> I thought I would miss it intentionally but now it seems I have to watch it too
2018-02-06T22:11:27 < Laurenceb> >I would like to take a moment to talk about the dangers of GRIDS
2018-02-06T22:11:31 < Laurenceb> kekking hard
2018-02-06T22:11:45 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSr1RBsB4s
2018-02-06T22:13:38 < Steffanx> Are you ready for the falcon heavy launch, crt?
2018-02-06T22:13:56 < Steffanx> Hello superbia.
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2018-02-06T22:20:36 < Laurenceb> 4chan is ready
2018-02-06T22:21:03 < BrainDamage> imagine shooting the rocket with an rpg
2018-02-06T22:21:17 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage reading the live chat ^
2018-02-06T22:21:24 < BrainDamage> nope
2018-02-06T22:21:42 < BrainDamage> i have a script that cuts out youtube comments
2018-02-06T22:22:00 < Steffanx> Even the live chat BrainDamage? Can you share?
2018-02-06T22:22:12 < Laurenceb> appropriate for youtube https://i.imgur.com/n8umjWj.png
2018-02-06T22:22:52 < Laurenceb> >Musk looks at the live chat
2018-02-06T22:22:55 < Laurenceb> >cancels launch
2018-02-06T22:23:21 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c
2018-02-06T22:23:35 < Thorn> starting
2018-02-06T22:24:01 < Laurenceb> lul they disabled live chat
2018-02-06T22:24:22 < c10ud^> I like this guy ^
2018-02-06T22:25:05 < Laurenceb> wtf the crowd is worse than the live chat
2018-02-06T22:25:12 < Laurenceb> sounds like WWE
2018-02-06T22:25:26 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: no, my video has no live chat
2018-02-06T22:25:32 < Laurenceb> crt: there was another stream before this one went live
2018-02-06T22:26:36 < BrainDamage> i can also just use mpv + youtube-dl
2018-02-06T22:26:45 < BrainDamage> but it's probably too nerd for few here
2018-02-06T22:27:00 < Laurenceb> >when the crowd is so annoying you hope the rocket goes sideways and kills them all
2018-02-06T22:27:01 < Steffanx> Ya, even a little too nerd for me BrainDamage :P
2018-02-06T22:27:18 < Laurenceb> >then wipes out the youtube live chat server
2018-02-06T22:27:41 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: it required no config on my side tought
2018-02-06T22:27:50 < BrainDamage> literally just mpv url, provided both are installed
2018-02-06T22:28:36 < Steffanx> should try mpv on windows
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2018-02-06T22:29:04 < BrainDamage> https://mpv.srsfckn.biz/
2018-02-06T22:29:35 < Steffanx> Already had it it seems
2018-02-06T22:29:40 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMoh5hZAaZk
2018-02-06T22:29:53 < Laurenceb> 1:20 is whats going to happen to that crowd
2018-02-06T22:32:38 < Laurenceb> in 12 minutes
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2018-02-06T22:37:38 < Laurenceb> I see Hugh Mungous
2018-02-06T22:37:42 < Laurenceb> on the right
2018-02-06T22:38:02 < Laurenceb> reeee the crowd is in Cali
2018-02-06T22:38:17 < Laurenceb> I was hoping they were near the pad so we got to watch them die
2018-02-06T22:38:19 < Laurenceb> fail
2018-02-06T22:38:53 < Laurenceb> inb4 Harambe is in the suit
2018-02-06T22:40:07 < Laurenceb> 5 minutes
2018-02-06T22:40:41 < Laurenceb> finally no crowd
2018-02-06T22:43:07 < Laurenceb> 2 min
2018-02-06T22:44:45 < englishman> 🚀
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2018-02-06T22:46:08 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/TMlGG0a.png
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2018-02-06T22:49:18 < Steffanx> stupid music -_-
2018-02-06T22:50:49 < englishman> lol
2018-02-06T22:53:44 < englishman> that's pretty cool
2018-02-06T22:57:54 < Rob235> this thing is going to draw bigger pictures than I anticipated
2018-02-06T22:58:39 < Rob235> what kind of grease should I get for the linear rails? these things are shitty
2018-02-06T22:59:39 < Thorn> >13 min to Stage 2 restart
2018-02-06T22:59:50 < Thorn> why the hell did they end the webcast
2018-02-06T23:01:06 < englishman> yeah its not done yet
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2018-02-06T23:08:28 < Steffanx> and spacex.com seems broken. lol
2018-02-06T23:08:42 < Steffanx> Welcome back, Tectu
2018-02-06T23:08:43 < englishman> no updates on twatter
2018-02-06T23:10:30 < jpa-> Steffanx: should i be worried that my wife is sending chocolate to some swiss dude?
2018-02-06T23:10:59 < Steffanx> haha.
2018-02-06T23:11:03 < Steffanx> Depends.. did he pay for it?
2018-02-06T23:11:34 < jpa-> he paid in kind!
2018-02-06T23:11:56 < Tectu> thank you, Mr. Steffanx
2018-02-06T23:11:57 < Steffanx> Did you do something in return then?
2018-02-06T23:12:30 < jpa-> i ate some of it
2018-02-06T23:12:50 < Tectu> that was meant for your wife! I hope you feel bad.
2018-02-06T23:13:04 < jpa-> nope, it was yummy
2018-02-06T23:13:18 < Tectu> heh :p
2018-02-06T23:13:43 < Steffanx> Better ask if she wants him to die jpa-. The swisser has also 4.5kg of waffles coming in.
2018-02-06T23:14:01 < Steffanx> Will be a bad case of diabetus
2018-02-06T23:14:12 < zyp> haha
2018-02-06T23:14:23 < Tectu> :p
2018-02-06T23:14:31 < jpa-> hmm maybe next package will be just salty liquorice
2018-02-06T23:14:47 < Tectu> I didn't even know that finnland makes chocolate. Some of the packages seem to suggest that it's some speciality there
2018-02-06T23:14:56 < Tectu> but then again... mint chocolate sounds weird already :p
2018-02-06T23:15:05 < Steffanx> we have that too, it's.. weird.
2018-02-06T23:15:16 < Steffanx> i dont like it.
2018-02-06T23:15:16 < Tectu> I'm sure I'll like it.
2018-02-06T23:15:20 < BrainDamage> orange chocolate is where it's at
2018-02-06T23:15:42 < Steffanx> Thats just as terrible.
2018-02-06T23:15:44 < BrainDamage> or chily chocolate, like the original
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2018-02-06T23:16:06 < Tectu> lesson of the day: Steffanx doesn't know how to chocolate
2018-02-06T23:16:18 < Steffanx> I do. You dont mix it with other crap.
2018-02-06T23:16:38 < Steffanx> Do you mix your whiskey mr Tectu?
2018-02-06T23:16:56 < Tectu> lol no
2018-02-06T23:17:00 < jpa-> i thought switzerland should have all kinds of chocolate, including mint chocolate
2018-02-06T23:17:01 < Steffanx> See. Chocolate.
2018-02-06T23:17:13 < Tectu> jpa-, I'm sure there is some
2018-02-06T23:17:13 < zyp> I also find orange chocolate fucking awful
2018-02-06T23:17:18 < Tectu> Steffanx, well played Sir, well played...
2018-02-06T23:17:23 < zyp> idk why
2018-02-06T23:17:34 < zyp> I like orange, I like chocolate, but the combination is terrible
2018-02-06T23:17:36 < Steffanx> hah Tectu
2018-02-06T23:17:53 < zyp> mint chocolate is not so bad
2018-02-06T23:18:02 < Rob235> yes it is
2018-02-06T23:18:15 < Tectu> I'll try some and report back.
2018-02-06T23:18:18 < Rob235> anything but gum and toothpaste is bad
2018-02-06T23:18:47 < Steffanx> Only thing you can mix with chocolate is more solid stuff, like hazel nuts and raisins.
2018-02-06T23:18:51 < Tectu> condoms
2018-02-06T23:19:05 < jpa-> rocks
2018-02-06T23:19:06 < Tectu> that was for Rob235's mint stuff, not the solid chocolate mixture...
2018-02-06T23:19:12 < jpa-> oh
2018-02-06T23:19:19 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2l_N8plWqg
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2018-02-06T23:23:23 < Laurenceb> >gets to end credits
2018-02-06T23:23:26 < Laurenceb> >wait wut
2018-02-06T23:24:16 < Laurenceb> apparently its not a troll
2018-02-06T23:25:55 < Laurenceb> I dont know who is trolling who any more
2018-02-06T23:26:08 < Steffanx> and you still dont know no one in ##stm32 give a damn.
2018-02-06T23:26:13 < Steffanx> *gives
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2018-02-06T23:29:25 < Rob235> whats going on right now? are there two test flights? whats in 6 minutes?
2018-02-06T23:29:41 < Rob235> or is it repeating
2018-02-06T23:30:11 < Rob235> oh not 6 minutes? 30 seconds ago?
2018-02-06T23:36:21 < Steffanx> you're probably not live anymore
2018-02-06T23:36:47 < jpa-> car on track towards mars orbit, two boosters landed successfully, AI onboard core booster took over and it is now a cruise missile
2018-02-06T23:36:52 < Rob235> yea, something happened to the feed right before the boosters landed, thought the video froze but it paused, not sure what happened after that
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2018-02-06T23:37:10 < Rob235> ahh
2018-02-06T23:37:16 < jpa-> https://i.4cdn.org/sci/1517952261840.png   4chan has you covered
2018-02-06T23:37:35 < zyp> :)
2018-02-06T23:38:19 < Steffanx> if you werent jpa- i would have filled my duty regarding the no 4/8ch policy
2018-02-06T23:38:42 < zyp> that one were actually fun though
2018-02-06T23:40:37 < jpa-> Steffanx: is your duty to send waffles to anyone pasting 4ch links?
2018-02-06T23:40:46 < Steffanx> Anyone not pasting them
2018-02-06T23:40:57 < zyp> I haven't posted any
2018-02-06T23:41:09 < zyp> just saying
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2018-02-06T23:41:44 < Steffanx> I only send air fryrers to norway :P
2018-02-06T23:42:44 < zyp> aww
2018-02-06T23:43:28 < BrainDamage> take the air frier, sell it, buy more waffles
2018-02-06T23:43:36 < BrainDamage> aren't air friers like 200 bucks?
2018-02-06T23:43:41 < Thorn> is dirtypcbs.com going to shutdown for 2 week like everyone else? they have no notices or anything
2018-02-06T23:43:51 < Steffanx> I dont remember what zyp paid for it BrainDamage
2018-02-06T23:44:03 < zyp> I don't remember either
2018-02-06T23:44:17 < Steffanx> i paid 139 euro
2018-02-06T23:44:19 < BrainDamage> 100 to 200 according to amazon here
2018-02-06T23:44:42 < Steffanx> so i guess zyp paid 139+shipping. => 155 or something
2018-02-06T23:44:45 < zyp> that sounds right
2018-02-06T23:44:51 < BrainDamage> does it only fry?
2018-02-06T23:45:04 < Steffanx> it's more like an hot air oven.
2018-02-06T23:45:14 < Steffanx> but tiny
2018-02-06T23:45:14 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-06T23:45:40 < Steffanx> So no, it not only fries.
2018-02-06T23:45:44 < zyp> it works nicely for the frozen pre-fried stuff you get at grocery stores
2018-02-06T23:46:08 < BrainDamage> i was considering getting an halogen oven, but I'm not sure if the surface temp reached would be high enough to brown food
2018-02-06T23:46:24 < BrainDamage> if the surface is too cold you get the microwave taste, where everything is shit
2018-02-06T23:46:33 < zyp> frozen potato products, onion rings, calamares, etc…
2018-02-06T23:46:43 < zyp> mozarella sticks
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2018-02-06T23:53:38 < Thorn> live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBr2kKAHN6M
2018-02-06T23:54:09 < zyp> nice
2018-02-06T23:55:50 < Steffanx> Zyp: I can ship, but shipping is like 16 euro
2018-02-06T23:56:13 < BrainDamage> i wonder if they'll dedicate a sat every time it crosses the apsis with earth
2018-02-06T23:56:55 < zyp> does it even have anything other than battery power?
2018-02-06T23:58:08 < zyp> I don't see any signs of solar panels
2018-02-06T23:59:11 < BrainDamage> true
2018-02-06T23:59:21 < BrainDamage> i wonder if they use the car's battery pack
2018-02-06T23:59:35 < zyp> I doubt it
2018-02-06T23:59:46 < Thorn> how come the car isn't outgassing like crazy
2018-02-06T23:59:51 < zyp> I doubt car launched with a battery pack
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2018-02-07T00:00:25 < BrainDamage> Thorn: they probably tested it before in a vacuum chamber
2018-02-07T00:01:07 < BrainDamage> also not all outgassing is fast/visible
2018-02-07T00:01:21 < BrainDamage> there's no atmosphere to disturb there
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2018-02-07T00:05:03 < upgrdman> anyone know if openoffice or libreoffice is better?
2018-02-07T00:05:37 < BrainDamage> openoffice has been abandoned by the original sauce devs when oracle acquired it
2018-02-07T00:05:50 < BrainDamage> this may or may not be a pro depending on who you ask
2018-02-07T00:05:58 < BrainDamage> but basically almost nobody is working on it
2018-02-07T00:06:14 < Steffanx> Ms office is better ;)
2018-02-07T00:06:50 < upgrdman> Steffanx, msoffice is shift. i have it (legit paid license) and its fucking trash
2018-02-07T00:07:06 < upgrdman> i also dont know how they fucked it up so bad. latency feels >100ms
2018-02-07T00:07:23 < Steffanx> Then the open sores ones wont do you any good
2018-02-07T00:07:27 < upgrdman> its like an international phone call over satellite when you type
2018-02-07T00:07:49 < Steffanx> Idk what you did to it to make it like that..
2018-02-07T00:08:17 < upgrdman> fuck if i know, but download ooo and lo right now
2018-02-07T00:09:00 < Steffanx> I wish you all the luck in the world. Youll need it :¶
2018-02-07T00:09:35 < upgrdman> is Steffanx the new dongs
2018-02-07T00:09:46 < upgrdman> open sauce == faggot shit?
2018-02-07T00:10:24 < upgrdman> unrelated: stock market is regaining some sanity. yay.
2018-02-07T00:10:52 < Steffanx> When its ooo or libre, yes. Otherwise, no.
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2018-02-07T00:17:29 < upgrdman> ooo still doesnt support high-dpi, lolfail.
2018-02-07T00:17:36 < upgrdman> lets see how lo fairs
2018-02-07T00:17:55 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/OtherVakarchuk/status/960999201990684673
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2018-02-07T00:19:58 < BrainDamage> i don't get it, mind killing the joke?
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2018-02-07T00:25:30 < Thorn> https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article7518135.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/TheMartianPotatoesMarsMain.jpg
2018-02-07T00:25:35 < Thorn> (probably lol)
2018-02-07T00:28:56 < BrainDamage> ah
2018-02-07T00:36:02 < Thorn> background music for the stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxNmeMklFk8
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2018-02-07T00:48:54 < Thorn> https://www.instagram.com/p/Be31IJxgOoK/
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2018-02-07T01:29:13 < Thorn> press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KORTP545vAc
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2018-02-07T01:34:41 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/C4cjBLR.jpg
2018-02-07T01:42:39 < Tectu> any experiences with Xbee stuff?
2018-02-07T01:43:03 < Tectu> does anybody have any experience with over-the-air pairing? Eg. Pairing based on just pushing a button on the coordinator and the end-device/router ?
2018-02-07T01:43:06 < karlp> old, expensive, but will generally work.
2018-02-07T01:43:22 < karlp> xbee's don't do thatout of hte box, or they didn't
2018-02-07T01:43:39 < karlp> they have a lot of confi options if you want to go that path
2018-02-07T01:43:52 < Tectu> yeah, I'm half way digg'd in
2018-02-07T01:44:14 < Tectu> right now I look for a solution where I can tell an end-device to join a network (overwriting the PAN-ID)
2018-02-07T01:44:41 < karlp> I can't imagine you're going to be doing anything other than having the host cpu handle the button press and command the xbee module
2018-02-07T01:44:42 < Tectu> I have a gut-feeling that I can just set the PAN-ID to zero on both devices and then the coordinator will write a new PAN-ID to the end device
2018-02-07T01:44:53 < karlp> eh, never tried much of that magic stuff
2018-02-07T01:45:01 < karlp> it was all very hand wavy and awkward to test
2018-02-07T01:45:13 < karlp> are you trying to use digimesh, or 802.15.4 or zigbee?
2018-02-07T01:45:40 < Tectu> digimesh
2018-02-07T01:45:56 < karlp> yeah, ok, I never looked at that at all.
2018-02-07T01:46:16 < Tectu> but I could go ZigBee Pro too. still defining crap
2018-02-07T01:48:17 < englishman> Thorn: dead, have another?
2018-02-07T01:50:20 < Thorn> seems to be ok now
2018-02-07T01:51:00 < englishman> yeah
2018-02-07T01:51:07 < englishman> thx
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2018-02-07T02:05:54 < englishman> awful audio
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2018-02-07T03:40:28 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2018-02-07T03:40:30 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=44376.0;attach=1476003;image
2018-02-07T03:40:32 < Laurenceb_> my sides
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2018-02-07T04:01:26 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/yj9zueggboe01.jpg
2018-02-07T04:02:22 < dongs> legit
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2018-02-07T04:28:34 < branjb> shellac smells terrible
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2018-02-07T06:12:11 < upgrdman> R2COM, iirc theres gc-sections or something like that, to remove unused functions
2018-02-07T06:19:54 < dongs> wow the falcon faggot landing is amazing
2018-02-07T06:27:53 < emeb_mac> ya
2018-02-07T06:28:09 < emeb_mac> that shot of the two side boosters coming down together is classic
2018-02-07T06:28:12 < dongs> both side boosters landing at samde time is pretty fucking pro
2018-02-07T06:28:12 < dongs> yes
2018-02-07T06:28:22 < dongs> clearly used metric units
2018-02-07T06:28:23 < dongs> to land
2018-02-07T06:28:28 < emeb_mac> lol
2018-02-07T06:28:39 < dongs> if it was freedom units, they'd both miss their spots
2018-02-07T06:28:43 < emeb_mac> but the core booster didn't do so well
2018-02-07T06:28:47 < dongs> oh?
2018-02-07T06:28:49 < emeb_mac> ran out of fuel on the way down
2018-02-07T06:28:51 < dongs> oh
2018-02-07T06:28:53 < emeb_mac> missed the barge
2018-02-07T06:29:00 < emeb_mac> hit the water going 300MPH
2018-02-07T06:29:03 < emeb_mac> boom!
2018-02-07T06:29:04 < dongs> nice
2018-02-07T06:29:06 < dongs> is tehre pics of that
2018-02-07T06:29:14 < emeb_mac> Not yet
2018-02-07T06:29:19 < emeb_mac> barge was damaged, cameras knocked out
2018-02-07T06:30:25 < emeb_mac> will be a few days before they can tow it back and get footage from recorders
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2018-02-07T09:38:47 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENWhHOXLj0Y Aphex Twin 2017
2018-02-07T09:53:03 < kakimir> what is mcuexpresso asking flash drivers for when I create a project?
2018-02-07T09:53:43 < kakimir> if I use it with openocd isn't that option irrelevant?
2018-02-07T09:53:55 < kakimir> because it's set in openocd
2018-02-07T09:54:26 < kakimir> making stm32 project in mcuxpresso is not so much fun
2018-02-07T09:55:21 < PaulFertser> Probably mcuexpresso thinks that you're either too pro or too stupid to use openocd or other external means of flashing and debugging.
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2018-02-07T09:55:49 < kakimir> but that option is for their propiertary debugger only?
2018-02-07T09:56:09 < kakimir> meaning their probes and shiet
2018-02-07T09:56:39 < PaulFertser> No clue, why care?
2018-02-07T09:57:02 < kakimir> I don know
2018-02-07T09:57:03 < PaulFertser> Why are you not using ac6 or whatever it was renamed to?
2018-02-07T09:57:26 < kakimir> ac6?
2018-02-07T09:58:04 < PaulFertser> Some free IDE officially supported by st.
2018-02-07T09:58:07 < kakimir> how do I import non-eclipse project to eclipse without pain
2018-02-07T09:58:25 < PaulFertser> Haha, even importing eclipse project into eclipse is pain :)
2018-02-07T09:59:01 < kakimir> so it's time to install yet another eclipse?
2018-02-07T09:59:16 < kakimir> how well does ac6 work with openocd stuff?
2018-02-07T09:59:40 < PaulFertser> ac6 uses openocd natively
2018-02-07T09:59:54 < PaulFertser> Full debug etc
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2018-02-07T10:02:08 < kakimir> I don't think it would be that much more easier
2018-02-07T10:03:27 < kakimir> stm32 has flash at 0x0800000?
2018-02-07T10:03:30 < PaulFertser> Yep
2018-02-07T10:03:33 < kakimir> f103
2018-02-07T10:03:38 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-07T10:03:38 < PaulFertser> 0x08000000
2018-02-07T10:03:43 < PaulFertser> You're missing one zero.
2018-02-07T10:03:49 < kakimir> I think lpc has it at 0x0
2018-02-07T10:03:54 < dongs> you are correct
2018-02-07T10:04:04 < dongs> LPC also has that retarded checksum in reset vector
2018-02-07T10:04:20 < kakimir> retarded checksum
2018-02-07T10:04:23 < kakimir> tell me more
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2018-02-07T10:04:39 < dongs> https://community.nxp.com/thread/388993
2018-02-07T10:05:32 < dongs> somethign something shit shit opensores opensores
2018-02-07T10:05:37 < dongs> never had any problems w/keil
2018-02-07T10:05:40 < dongs> it automatically generates it.
2018-02-07T10:05:52 < kakimir> aa opensores problem
2018-02-07T10:06:21 < kakimir> I wonder if my stm32f103rbt6 has 1 or 2 flash banks?
2018-02-07T10:06:26 < dongs> ..
2018-02-07T10:06:31 < dongs> obvously 1
2018-02-07T10:06:36 < kakimir> ye
2018-02-07T10:06:40 < dongs> its RB, like 256k version
2018-02-07T10:06:47 < dongs> 2 banks is like 1meg version
2018-02-07T10:07:00 < kakimir> 128k i think
2018-02-07T10:07:52 < dongs> or 128 yea.
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2018-02-07T10:26:27 < kakimir> jesus
2018-02-07T10:26:46 < kakimir> I don't think I'll have luck importing this shiet to eclipse and then make it compile too
2018-02-07T10:27:19 < kakimir> I'm using bash.exe
2018-02-07T10:27:48 < kakimir> see if it builds
2018-02-07T10:31:05 < kakimir> what is .hg directory in project?
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2018-02-07T10:33:33 < zyp> mercurial
2018-02-07T10:35:14 < dongs> aids
2018-02-07T10:35:27 < kakimir> Git is MacGyver and Mercurial is James Bond
2018-02-07T10:35:29 < kakimir> ?
2018-02-07T10:36:31 < kakimir> reading some bullshit article
2018-02-07T10:37:47 < kakimir> why is make looking for hg?
2018-02-07T10:38:12 < kakimir> in fatfs part of the codes
2018-02-07T10:38:24 < dongs> it sure as fuck doesnt
2018-02-07T10:38:50 < kakimir> make: hg: Komentoa ei löytynyt
2018-02-07T10:38:58 < kakimir> command not found
2018-02-07T10:39:35 < PaulFertser> kakimir: makefile might be trying to get hg revision to embed in the binary for versioning purposes.
2018-02-07T10:40:57 < kakimir> what libs do I need to install to build this stuff?
2018-02-07T10:41:01 < kakimir> in my bash.exe
2018-02-07T10:41:08 < dongs> not gonna happen
2018-02-07T10:41:12 < dongs> i suggest giving up asap
2018-02-07T10:41:20 < kakimir> I know rite
2018-02-07T10:44:14 < PaulFertser> kakimir: just mercurial binary
2018-02-07T10:44:18 < PaulFertser> kakimir: or edit the makefile
2018-02-07T10:44:24 < PaulFertser> kakimir: to omit hg call.
2018-02-07T10:45:19 < PaulFertser> Makefile
2018-02-07T10:45:20 < kakimir> PaulFertser, it doesn't result in error
2018-02-07T10:45:42 < PaulFertser> kakimir: eh, what does then? Can you just pastebin the whole output?
2018-02-07T10:46:02 < kakimir> undefined reference to `_sbrk' causes error
2018-02-07T10:47:15 < PaulFertser> kakimir: try adding -lc -lnosys to the very end of linker command line
2018-02-07T10:49:24 < kakimir> PaulFertser, yes
2018-02-07T10:49:34 < kakimir> it missed -lc
2018-02-07T10:50:22 < PaulFertser> crt: libc and libnosys, the latter provides simple implementations of basic syscalls.
2018-02-07T10:50:48 < kakimir> crt, I don't even know
2018-02-07T10:51:01 < kakimir> just toggle them back and worth until it works
2018-02-07T10:51:22 < kakimir> so nosys is actually a lib itself?
2018-02-07T10:51:50 < kakimir> yes crt
2018-02-07T10:52:11 < PaulFertser> kakimir: yes, nosys e.g. contains trivial imlementation of _sbrk which is needed for malloc.
2018-02-07T10:55:09 < kakimir> I'm super confused
2018-02-07T10:55:40 < kakimir> what is -lc option?
2018-02-07T10:56:27 < PaulFertser> Asks to link libc
2018-02-07T10:57:06 < PaulFertser> It contains malloc, printf etc
2018-02-07T10:59:37 < kakimir> so libc and newlib and libred are similar things?
2018-02-07T10:59:54 < kakimir> or doing the same thing
2018-02-07T11:00:04 < dongs> haha... openfucking sores
2018-02-07T11:00:08 < dongs> can't open sores without hearing about sbrk
2018-02-07T11:00:21 < dongs> how the fuck does keil manage to have working malloc without me ever having to give a shit about sbrk???
2018-02-07T11:00:28 < dongs> ~magic~
2018-02-07T11:00:32 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-07T11:02:12 < PaulFertser> kakimir: newlib is an implementation of libc
2018-02-07T11:02:51 < kakimir> yes
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2018-02-07T11:05:51 < jadew> how the fuck do you close a message thread in twitter?
2018-02-07T11:06:18 < jadew> you click on a message that's a reply to another tweet, in order to see its own replies
2018-02-07T11:06:22 < jadew> how the fuck do you go back?
2018-02-07T11:06:29 < dongs> yo udont
2018-02-07T11:06:31 < dongs> its twitter
2018-02-07T11:06:35 < jadew> seriously?
2018-02-07T11:06:35 < dongs> made for dumbs
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2018-02-07T11:12:40 < PaulFertser> dongs: probably keil just links their "nosys" by default when creating project? It's the same with IDEs using newlib, done on IDE project management level. I do not think there any difference in this regard.
2018-02-07T11:14:13 < dongs> PaulFertser: keil has theri own proper libc
2018-02-07T11:15:03 < PaulFertser> dongs: it's not about being proper. It's kinda obvious that some usecases require other _sbrk and _open etc implementations. So the end-user needs to have a choice. It's just that IDEs make default choice that suits most users.
2018-02-07T11:16:03 < PaulFertser> newlib is not any less proper in this regard
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2018-02-07T11:29:58 < stvn> the dog arrived https://i.imgur.com/NFw7DyX.jpg
2018-02-07T11:35:29 < Steffanx> Is it würth it, stvn ?
2018-02-07T11:36:01 < stvn> yess
2018-02-07T11:37:21 < dongs> its worst
2018-02-07T11:37:53 < jadew> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/06/prominent-black-lives-matter-activist-shot-killed-in-new-orleans-niece-says.html
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2018-02-07T11:39:00 < stvn> dumb and dumber
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2018-02-07T11:58:45 < stvn> good morning Steffanx
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2018-02-07T12:01:54 < Eljotto> Hello. How can I burn my bin(/hex) to the stm32 from linux? Was using stm32 demonstrator on windows earlier, I found this stm32flash tool for linux, but I'm not sure about the parameters there
2018-02-07T12:03:07 < zyp> what sort of hardware do you have?
2018-02-07T12:03:59 < Eljotto> stm32f103c8, aka "that cheap blue board" + ftdi usb->uart cable
2018-02-07T12:04:13 < zyp> okay, in that case stm32flash is what you want
2018-02-07T12:04:30 < dongs> then you jsut need stm32flash. i think -e -w faggot.hex should suffice
2018-02-07T12:04:37 < dongs> whatever options look reasonable when you --help it
2018-02-07T12:04:57 < Eljotto> I'm concerned about overwriting stuff, like bootloader or something - don't I need to pass some starting address?
2018-02-07T12:05:02 < dongs> there isnt one
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2018-02-07T12:05:09 < dongs> unless you loaded it with some stm32duino thing
2018-02-07T12:05:11 < zyp> bootloader is in rom, you can't rewrite it
2018-02-07T12:05:26 < zyp> i.e. you can't fuck it up
2018-02-07T12:05:28 < stvn> filth
2018-02-07T12:06:54 < Eljotto> oh, thats good to hear
2018-02-07T12:07:08 < PaulFertser> BTW, there's ft232r driver for OpenOCD, so you can probably debug too if you really have ftdi there.
2018-02-07T12:07:48 < zyp> that's something more than just usb-uart though
2018-02-07T12:09:24 < Eljotto> it lives!
2018-02-07T12:09:48 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, it says ftdi on the cable, but I'm not 100% sure
2018-02-07T12:10:04 < Eljotto> I also have stlink thingy, but didn't tried that yet, just recently got it
2018-02-07T12:11:10 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: stlink is good. Debugging is invaluable.
2018-02-07T12:11:53 < Eljotto> so I heard
2018-02-07T12:11:56 < qyx> anyone tried using a n-mosfet to connect a parallel Vfb bridge resistor to adjust vreg output voltage?
2018-02-07T12:12:14 < qyx> no capacitive shit or other will happen?
2018-02-07T12:12:27 < Eljotto> not sure how to connect it though, it has that big ass wide cable connector
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2018-02-07T12:39:50 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: just SWD
2018-02-07T12:40:56 < dongs> qyx: sure
2018-02-07T12:42:43 < dongs> qyx, you could also use dac for it
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2018-02-07T14:00:52 < Rickta59> is the ft232r thing a recent addition to openocd PaulFertser ?
2018-02-07T14:01:00 < PaulFertser> Rickta59: yes
2018-02-07T14:01:13 < Rickta59> so it uses the gpio pins on the ft232r/
2018-02-07T14:01:15 < Rickta59> ?
2018-02-07T14:02:05 < dongs> basically
2018-02-07T14:02:07 < dongs> a dumb wiggler
2018-02-07T14:02:12 < dongs> we've come full circle
2018-02-07T14:02:14 < PaulFertser> Rickta59: not even merged yet, but will be really soon. openocd.zylin.com/4215
2018-02-07T14:02:23 < Rickta59> thanks
2018-02-07T14:02:25 < dongs> parallel port wigglers -> proper jtag probes -> wiggling bits with FT232
2018-02-07T14:03:13 < PaulFertser> No, it's got a queue, so not wiggler, works much faster.
2018-02-07T14:03:20 < dongs> does it really
2018-02-07T14:05:59 < PaulFertser> dongs: MPSSE mode of FT232H and similar is not much different from sync bitbang mode that this ft232r supports. And many pro vendors still offer ft232h based jtag probes.
2018-02-07T14:07:39 < PaulFertser> ARM debug protocol was designed specifically with such usecases in mind.
2018-02-07T14:10:06 < dongs> have they managed to resolve 'free vs nonfree' libft232 shit
2018-02-07T14:10:16 < dongs> that prevented them from using quality code to interface wiht teh shit?
2018-02-07T14:10:43 < PaulFertser> Who they?
2018-02-07T14:10:49 < dongs> openaidsocd of course
2018-02-07T14:11:01 < dongs> i remember you couldnt even get a precompiled bin of openocd with proper ftdi support
2018-02-07T14:11:04 < dongs> cuz the lib wasn't free enough
2018-02-07T14:11:15 < PaulFertser> OpenOCD doesn't use any external library to talk to MPSSE-based adapters since long.
2018-02-07T14:11:21 < dongs> "want fast ftdi on windows? build this shit from sores, FAGGOTS"
2018-02-07T14:12:26 < PaulFertser> The proprietary ftdi lib's license prevented it from being legally distributed with GPLv2 software, yes.
2018-02-07T14:12:36 < dongs> mhm
2018-02-07T14:13:05 < PaulFertser> So it's not much OpenOCD developers could do there.
2018-02-07T14:13:07 < Rickta59> i guess FTDO wanted to hide the code that bricks the device if they so desire
2018-02-07T14:13:18 < PaulFertser> I think they had that code in the driver.
2018-02-07T14:13:36 < PaulFertser> And the bricking happened much, much later than the proprietary library was released.
2018-02-07T14:14:23 < Rickta59> * was just pointing out why vendors like binaries and DCMA protection
2018-02-07T14:14:49 < Rickta59> * and why the rest of us like opensores
2018-02-07T14:15:27 < Rickta59> but yes it was in the driver
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2018-02-07T14:22:26 < dongs> https://s0.2mdn.net/5167093/PRO_SIT_AM5718x_IDK_300x250.gif
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2018-02-07T14:35:55 < Eljotto> I'm having trouble with stlink. I think I connected it correctly to my board (4 wires, 3,3V GND SWDClock DATA), but it can't connect
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2018-02-07T14:36:47 < Eljotto> http://paste.debian.net/1009180/
2018-02-07T14:37:36 < dongs> filthy french code
2018-02-07T14:37:54 < dongs> pretty fucking brave of them to ship a lunix binary
2018-02-07T14:37:59 < dongs> surprised it even works
2018-02-07T14:38:15 < dongs> and doesnt crapout wiht libc version difference or wrong kernel or some ot her shit
2018-02-07T14:38:31 < dongs> it was hilarious when I tried to run a recent ffmpeg on some computer, and it said my kernel was too old
2018-02-07T14:38:34 < dongs> like wwhat the fuck?
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2018-02-07T14:38:45 < dongs> ffmpeg does NOTHING that would require something as speceific as a kernel version
2018-02-07T14:39:15 < dongs> DLL hell? lunix literally invented it
2018-02-07T14:43:07 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: it just means you've connected it wrong
2018-02-07T14:43:13 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: something clearly on wiring level
2018-02-07T14:47:47 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: or are you probably already running some code that can mess with SWD pins?
2018-02-07T14:48:00 < Eljotto> dunno
2018-02-07T14:48:05 < Eljotto> checking one more time
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2018-02-07T14:49:52 < Rickta59> are oyu using an stlink v2 or v2.1?
2018-02-07T14:50:35 < Rickta59> /home/jack/Ac6/SystemWorkbench/plugins/fr.ac6.mcu.externaltools.openocd.linux64_1.17.0.201801121207/tools/openocd/bin/openocd -f stm32.flash.7134454045729140906.cfg -s /home/jack/workspace/serial450k -s /home/jack/Ac6/SystemWorkbench/plugins/fr.
2018-02-07T14:50:47 < Rickta59> sorry fat fing
2018-02-07T14:51:22 < Rickta59> it looks like you are using the wrong stlink.cfg
2018-02-07T14:51:25 < PaulFertser> Rickta59: btw, current OpenOCD finally got a patch that auto-detects stlinks of all versions.
2018-02-07T14:51:33 < PaulFertser> Rickta59: I'm not sure since it's able to read out voltage.
2018-02-07T14:51:39 < PaulFertser> Looks correct to me.
2018-02-07T14:51:55 < Rickta59> Info : vid/pid are not identical: 0x0483/0x374B 0x0483/0x3748 ?
2018-02-07T14:52:09 < Rickta59> that is how it does autodetect?
2018-02-07T14:53:58 < PaulFertser> Rickta59: that's some hacked openocd version probably. Not upstream.
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2018-02-07T14:54:36 < PaulFertser> "are not identical" wtf is that supposed to mean?
2018-02-07T14:54:47 < PaulFertser> There's nothing like this in upstream.
2018-02-07T14:54:51 < Rickta59> right that stuff in sw4stm32
2018-02-07T14:54:51 < Eljotto> Rickta59, how do I know which one? On the back of stlink writes ST-LINK/V2
2018-02-07T14:55:02 < Rickta59> based on the vid/pid
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2018-02-07T14:55:08 < Rickta59> if it isn't on the label
2018-02-07T14:55:19 < Rickta59> it is a real one or a china clone?
2018-02-07T14:55:38 < Eljotto> it looked like the real deal
2018-02-07T14:55:56 < Rickta59> ebay or arrow?
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2018-02-07T14:56:01 < Eljotto> amazon
2018-02-07T14:56:05 < Eljotto> wait
2018-02-07T14:56:22 < Eljotto> on the box it says "ST-LINK/V2/01-0"
2018-02-07T14:56:42 < Rickta59> might be 2.1
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2018-02-07T14:59:08 < Rickta59> Bus 001 Device 026: ID 0483:3748 STMicroelectronics ST-LINK/V2
2018-02-07T14:59:29 < Rickta59> that is the vid/pid for a stm32f3 discovery a v2.0 one
2018-02-07T15:00:11 < Rickta59> if yours is 0483:374B it is a 2.1 and you need to pick the correct openocd.cfg for it
2018-02-07T15:00:23 < PaulFertser> Or use upstream openocd from git.
2018-02-07T15:00:51 < Eljotto> looks like debian provided also openocd
2018-02-07T15:01:16 < PaulFertser> It does, but it has no stlink autodetection.
2018-02-07T15:01:20 < Eljotto> aaand I see it is also not the newest version
2018-02-07T15:01:22 < PaulFertser> And it's anyway unlikely to be an issue.
2018-02-07T15:01:28 < PaulFertser> I'd say check wiring
2018-02-07T15:01:51 < PaulFertser> If you still can't connect, pull boot pin in the uart bootloader mode and retry connecting.
2018-02-07T15:14:14 < Eljotto> ok, so I installed newest openocd from git, that weird vid/pid warning is gone
2018-02-07T15:14:19 < Eljotto> but still, no change
2018-02-07T15:16:58 < dongs> anyone know anything about ipv6?
2018-02-07T15:17:03 < dongs> is 2001:xx address local?
2018-02-07T15:17:06 < dongs> or something auto-assigned? or waht
2018-02-07T15:17:59 < Eljotto> shouldn't there be another ':' somewhere?
2018-02-07T15:18:30 < zyp> 2001 prefix are global addresses
2018-02-07T15:18:36 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-07T15:18:48 < PaulFertser> dongs: 2001:470 is Hurricane Electric
2018-02-07T15:19:29 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: right, try putting it in uart bootloader mode and reconnect
2018-02-07T15:19:37 < dongs> for some reason my desktop is assigned 2001:A452:someshit or other
2018-02-07T15:19:42 < zyp> dongs, or it could be teredo, those are also mapped into 2001 prefix
2018-02-07T15:19:42 < dongs> and I never did anything with it
2018-02-07T15:20:09 < dongs> zyp, its on my ethernet adapter
2018-02-07T15:20:25 < zyp> then you probably have ipv6?
2018-02-07T15:20:55 < dongs> how would i test it
2018-02-07T15:21:00 < PaulFertser> ping6 google.com
2018-02-07T15:21:07 < PaulFertser> Eh, just ping -6 google.com
2018-02-07T15:21:17 < dongs> Pinging google.com [2404:6800:4004:817::200e] with 32 bytes of data:
2018-02-07T15:21:17 < dongs> Request timed out.
2018-02-07T15:21:49 < zyp> could try tracert -6
2018-02-07T15:22:30 < dongs> just times out all over
2018-02-07T15:22:49 < dongs>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : fe80::212:e2ff:fe06:1538%4
2018-02-07T15:22:52 < dongs> is this normal?
2018-02-07T15:22:56 < zyp> yes
2018-02-07T15:23:12 < dongs> ipv6 sounds so fucking retarded
2018-02-07T15:23:14 < dongs> no wonder nobody uses it
2018-02-07T15:23:25 < BrainDamage> that's even a short address
2018-02-07T15:23:42 < BrainDamage> the :: represents a pile of 0 truncated to fit
2018-02-07T15:23:48 < Laurenceb> >Cheddar man wuz black
2018-02-07T15:23:51 < Laurenceb> uk btfo
2018-02-07T15:24:01 < Laurenceb> status: building personal gas chamber
2018-02-07T15:24:02 < PaulFertser> It's kinda funny how you call retarded just about everything you do not understand.
2018-02-07T15:24:15 < PaulFertser> Guess it's self-ironic.
2018-02-07T15:24:38 < Eljotto> dongs, but localhost is cool
2018-02-07T15:24:47 < zyp> dongs, you've got an ALAXALA router?
2018-02-07T15:24:55 < dongs> the hell is that?
2018-02-07T15:25:01 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaxala_Networks
2018-02-07T15:25:02 < dongs> i guess i dont
2018-02-07T15:25:26 < dongs> why? is that thier ip prefix or something?
2018-02-07T15:25:31 < dongs> the 2001:whateverr shit
2018-02-07T15:25:49 < zyp> the ip address you posted maps to mac address 00:12:e2:06:15:38
2018-02-07T15:25:55 < zyp> prefix of that is alaxala
2018-02-07T15:26:12 < dongs> the ipv6 gfateway?
2018-02-07T15:26:16 < dongs> but isnt fe80 = local?
2018-02-07T15:26:17 < zyp> yes
2018-02-07T15:26:20 < dongs> like local to comptuer or soemshit
2018-02-07T15:26:23 < BrainDamage> no
2018-02-07T15:26:30 < zyp> it's link local
2018-02-07T15:26:34 < BrainDamage> ^
2018-02-07T15:26:36 < dongs> what does that mean
2018-02-07T15:26:45 < zyp> anything on that ethernet segment
2018-02-07T15:26:46 < BrainDamage> internal lan
2018-02-07T15:26:55 < BrainDamage> like 192.168. addresses in ipv4
2018-02-07T15:27:04 < BrainDamage> they won't get routed trought unless explicitly set
2018-02-07T15:27:20 < dongs> http://www.alaxala.com/jp/products/AX620R/http://www.alaxala.com/jp/products/AX620R/ looks like clones of mikrodik shit
2018-02-07T15:27:23 < dongs> probably at 1000x prices
2018-02-07T15:27:28 < zyp> well, technically it's more like 169.254. in ipv4
2018-02-07T15:27:34 < dongs> http://www.alaxala.com/jp/products/AX620R/ rather
2018-02-07T15:27:35 < dongs> anyway hmm
2018-02-07T15:27:36 < BrainDamage> both are, 10. are also
2018-02-07T15:27:38 < dongs> why do i haev this shit
2018-02-07T15:27:44 < dongs> and why i cant do anything with it
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2018-02-07T15:28:08 < zyp> BrainDamage, no, you're mixing link local with private network
2018-02-07T15:28:26 < BrainDamage> oh, you're correct, my bad
2018-02-07T15:28:27 < PaulFertser> BrainDamage: no, link local means Layer 2 link local addresses, they're not routable etc, that's not the same as private LAN addressing.
2018-02-07T15:28:46 < dongs> so why would I have a private IP as dfault gateway
2018-02-07T15:28:51 < dongs> shouldnt it be some public address
2018-02-07T15:28:55 < zyp> because that's normal in ipv6
2018-02-07T15:29:16 < PaulFertser> dongs: it's expected, as the gateway should be available via an ethernet link, without other hops in between.
2018-02-07T15:29:20 < zyp> router should be reachable on that address and thus you can route through it
2018-02-07T15:29:51 < dongs> but i cant ping it
2018-02-07T15:30:06 < zyp> then it's probably misconfigured
2018-02-07T15:30:17 < BrainDamage> dongs: same way your router is a local address in ipv4
2018-02-07T15:30:22 < dongs> i didnt configire it tho
2018-02-07T15:30:25 < dongs> shit jus showed up
2018-02-07T15:30:34 < zyp> are you connected directly to the internet?
2018-02-07T15:30:35 < BrainDamage> ipv6 typically defaults to slaac
2018-02-07T15:30:50 < dongs> well, it coincided with my internets shitting itself yesaterday
2018-02-07T15:30:56 < BrainDamage> means shit will auto configure and auto assign ips as soon as it's connected
2018-02-07T15:31:10 < dongs> but how do I get that weird gblobal ip
2018-02-07T15:31:23 < PaulFertser> dongs: either via slaac or dhcpv6 from your router
2018-02-07T15:31:30 < dongs> i have neither
2018-02-07T15:31:31 < zyp> I'm guessing this shit might be your isp's router, and it assigned an address to you
2018-02-07T15:31:40 < PaulFertser> dongs: can you post the public ip in full?
2018-02-07T15:31:50 < dongs> i guess? lemme see
2018-02-07T15:31:52 < PaulFertser> windows enables slaac client by default.
2018-02-07T15:32:10 < dongs>    IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:a452:460b:5900:f1d0:eac1:2a47:3f7e
2018-02-07T15:32:10 < dongs>    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2001:a452:460b:5900:95f0:c29e:b58b:ea3d
2018-02-07T15:32:10 < dongs>    Temporary IPv6 Address. . . . . . : 2001:a452:460b:5900:fc5b:400e:d896:2df9
2018-02-07T15:32:13 < dongs> i donno why i have 3 of htem
2018-02-07T15:32:33 < BrainDamage> it's a 'privacy' feature
2018-02-07T15:32:39 < PaulFertser> That's privacy extensions, all outgoing connections can use random addresses.
2018-02-07T15:32:41 < zyp> because second half is assigned by your own computer
2018-02-07T15:32:42 < dongs> plz no winpopup to my desktop
2018-02-07T15:32:43 < BrainDamage> you rotate addresses reguarly
2018-02-07T15:34:01 < englishman> so without dhcp or nat you no longer need a wan firewall?
2018-02-07T15:34:04 < BrainDamage> btw, even with slaac in ipv6 your client will send solecitation requests to the router to get a prefix
2018-02-07T15:34:20 < BrainDamage> ipv6 has no nat
2018-02-07T15:34:29 < englishman> right, so all port 22 are open all the time?
2018-02-07T15:34:48 < dongs> lunix is finally on desktop dream realized
2018-02-07T15:34:54 < zyp> 2001:a000::/21 is the prefix for NTT west, so those addrs are assigned from your ISP at least
2018-02-07T15:34:58 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-07T15:35:11 < dongs> i wonder why i cant do anything with them
2018-02-07T15:36:09 < zyp> well, if you can't reach the router by ping, anything you try routing through it probably aren't reaching it either
2018-02-07T15:36:18 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/8d30a95947/83123.jpeg
2018-02-07T15:36:18 < dongs> you mean that fe80 shit?
2018-02-07T15:36:23 < zyp> yes
2018-02-07T15:36:36 < PaulFertser> It's a bit hard to ping fe80 address, you need to specify interface too.
2018-02-07T15:36:45 < BrainDamage> englishman: yes, i bet routers will start dropping packets and masquerading addresses to protect the horribly configured default services
2018-02-07T15:36:55 < zyp> PaulFertser, interface was there, it's the %4 part
2018-02-07T15:37:00 < PaulFertser> But those ip addresses seem to be unroutable, at least from the HE view.
2018-02-07T15:37:12 < BrainDamage> windows doesn't have interface names, only interface numbers for ipv6 specification
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2018-02-07T15:37:19 < BrainDamage> the % is 4th interface
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2018-02-07T15:37:52 < englishman> BrainDamage: is that default behaviour though? since every device's ip address is publicly accessible
2018-02-07T15:38:02 < PaulFertser> BrainDamage: I know, but wasn't sure it was visible in ipconfig output.
2018-02-07T15:38:02 < englishman> i mean it's not exactly out of the ordinary to have ssh on port 22
2018-02-07T15:38:33 < BrainDamage> englishman: no, but i bet things will change in the future
2018-02-07T15:39:10 < BrainDamage> it'll take a disaster or two first ofc
2018-02-07T15:39:56 < dongs> how the fuck does my shit get this ipv6 address tho without dhcp or wahtever
2018-02-07T15:39:58 < PaulFertser> englishman: windows has a firewall enabled by default.
2018-02-07T15:40:01 < dongs> where is this set
2018-02-07T15:40:01 < PaulFertser> dongs: SLAAC
2018-02-07T15:40:09 < PaulFertser> In interface settings
2018-02-07T15:40:20 < dongs> i see
2018-02-07T15:40:20 < dongs> hm
2018-02-07T15:40:25 < BrainDamage> dongs: your client automatically gets an address from its mac and unicast/multicast
2018-02-07T15:40:30 < zyp> all modern OSes accept SLAAC by default
2018-02-07T15:40:33 < BrainDamage> and a prefix from the router
2018-02-07T15:40:51 < dongs> fucking crazy shit.
2018-02-07T15:40:54 < BrainDamage> ipv4 has this capability too, but few make use of it
2018-02-07T15:40:57 < dongs> well i hope my internets is fixed tomrorwo
2018-02-07T15:41:02 < dongs> cuz only having this dumb ipv6 is dumb
2018-02-07T15:41:06 < Eljotto> Still can't connect over SWD
2018-02-07T15:41:06 < dongs> especially since i cant do fuck all with it
2018-02-07T15:41:31 < BrainDamage> if ipv6 works, there's some services that offer to act as gateway from ipv6 to 4
2018-02-07T15:41:36 < zyp> accepting ipv6 slaac by default isn't really any dumber than accepting ipv4 dhcp by default
2018-02-07T15:41:52 < zyp> blame your isp for fucking up their router config though
2018-02-07T15:41:53 < dongs> BrainDamage: i have yet to successfully ping anything on IPV6
2018-02-07T15:42:01 < dongs> other than broadcast address or something
2018-02-07T15:42:57 < dongs> traceroute or ping all times out
2018-02-07T15:42:57 < zyp> btw, do you have a home router in between your internet connection and this router?
2018-02-07T15:43:14 < dongs> no its all lan
2018-02-07T15:43:21 < dongs> just all shit connected to everything
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2018-02-07T15:46:37 < dongs>   1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  EPSON60E11F [fe80::ae18:26ff:fe60:e11f]
2018-02-07T15:46:37 < dongs> haha
2018-02-07T15:46:41 < dongs> i found something local with ipv6
2018-02-07T15:46:45 < dongs> fucking printer or something?
2018-02-07T15:46:54 < dongs> its hte only thing that replied to ff02::1 ping
2018-02-07T15:47:59 < dongs> haha yes
2018-02-07T15:48:04 < dongs> i can connect ot it by [cocks]
2018-02-07T15:50:22 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: have you tried following my advice regarding boot pins?
2018-02-07T15:53:02 < dongs> hm apparently if it was my providers IPV6 it would be 2405:6580:whatever prefix
2018-02-07T15:53:05 < dongs> ok wahetver. bed time.
2018-02-07T15:53:11 < PaulFertser> Call your isp
2018-02-07T15:53:11 < dongs> this shit isnt gonna fix itself
2018-02-07T15:53:12 < PaulFertser> And rage
2018-02-07T15:53:23 < dongs> yeah, ive been doing since yesterday.
2018-02-07T15:53:34 < PaulFertser> Are they too stupid to diagnose/
2018-02-07T15:53:38 < dongs> clearly
2018-02-07T15:53:42 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, tried all possible combinations of the boot0/1
2018-02-07T15:53:46 < dongs> tehy claim theres no issue.
2018-02-07T15:53:54 < dongs> but if tehre wasn't, i'd be on the internets.
2018-02-07T15:54:06 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: is it possible you might have been confused with pin numbers?
2018-02-07T15:54:18 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: what exactly and how exactly are you wiring?
2018-02-07T15:58:46 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, Bluepillpinout.gif I'm using those 4 bottom pins (3V3, SWDIO, SWCLK, GND) and connect them (with jumper wires) to correcponding pins on the ribbon cable from stlink. The Ground and 3V3 seems to be correct, cause the device powers up
2018-02-07T16:00:35 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: you should normally be powering up the device from usb too.
2018-02-07T16:00:45 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: do you have full 20-pin stlink connector?
2018-02-07T16:00:49 < Eljotto> yes
2018-02-07T16:01:05 < PaulFertser> Which 3v3 pin are you using there, pin 1?
2018-02-07T16:01:11 < Eljotto> yes
2018-02-07T16:01:20 < PaulFertser> Then you should be powering from usb
2018-02-07T16:01:24 < PaulFertser> The target board
2018-02-07T16:01:39 < Eljotto> okay
2018-02-07T16:07:17 < Eljotto> nope, nothing
2018-02-07T16:07:51 < PaulFertser> Still "init mode failed"?
2018-02-07T16:08:05 < Eljotto> same message all the time
2018-02-07T16:08:09 < PaulFertser> Have you already flashed the board by other means?
2018-02-07T16:08:18 < Eljotto> yes
2018-02-07T16:08:20 < Eljotto> via uast
2018-02-07T16:08:22 < Eljotto> uart
2018-02-07T16:08:22 < PaulFertser> "init mode failed" message?
2018-02-07T16:08:42 < Eljotto> Error: open failed
2018-02-07T16:08:48 < PaulFertser> That's different!
2018-02-07T16:08:55 < PaulFertser> It means it can't connect to your stlink.
2018-02-07T16:09:07 < PaulFertser> Probably you're not in plugdev group or something. Try with sudo.
2018-02-07T16:09:24 < Eljotto> I'm running the eclipse as sudo, it should be able to do stuff
2018-02-07T16:09:39 < PaulFertser> Well, open failed means that.
2018-02-07T16:09:43 < Eljotto> starting eclipse with sudo again
2018-02-07T16:09:53 < PaulFertser> Can't open stlink device. Either wrong vid/pid or no permissions.
2018-02-07T16:10:04 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: before you're showing different message!
2018-02-07T16:10:17 < Eljotto> http://paste.debian.net/1009197/
2018-02-07T16:10:58 < qyx> running eclipse as root O_o
2018-02-07T16:11:08 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: yes, that means it can't access stlink itself.
2018-02-07T16:11:30 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: please try running openocd manually with sudo instead
2018-02-07T16:11:36 < PaulFertser> And with some simple command like
2018-02-07T16:11:45 < PaulFertser> openocd -f interface/stlink.cfg -f target/stm32f1x.cfg
2018-02-07T16:12:58 < Eljotto> http://paste.debian.net/1009198/
2018-02-07T16:13:14 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: now it's different, you see?
2018-02-07T16:13:24 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: it now says that the target is not responding via SWD.
2018-02-07T16:14:27 < Eljotto> true
2018-02-07T16:14:31 < Eljotto> still not working tho
2018-02-07T16:14:58 < PaulFertser> Time to check your jumper wires probably.
2018-02-07T16:15:01 < PaulFertser> Or the connectors
2018-02-07T16:23:21 < Eljotto> I give up
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2018-02-07T16:24:07 < emeryth> back to arduino
2018-02-07T16:26:38 < Rickta59> people so easily discouraged
2018-02-07T16:26:53 < Rickta59> you should just get a nucleo board and it will just work
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2018-02-07T16:31:19 < PaulFertser> Haha
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2018-02-07T16:35:20 < Laurenceb__> the hammer
2018-02-07T16:50:47 < Laurenceb__> why so serious
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2018-02-07T17:19:29 < kakimir> recommend a mirror paint
2018-02-07T17:19:56 < kakimir> to add to acrylic outside surface to minimize leaks
2018-02-07T17:20:14 < kakimir> in solid acrylic lense
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2018-02-07T18:00:53 < kakimir> I need a method to smooth acrylic into mirror perfect from this diffused cloudy surface
2018-02-07T18:01:07 < kakimir> any solvent that would do the job?
2018-02-07T18:01:11 < kakimir> how about heat?
2018-02-07T18:04:10 < englishman> kakimir: check out this nokia https://i.imgur.com/z74M3Yh.jpg
2018-02-07T18:04:37 < kakimir> nokia is finnish mitsubishi
2018-02-07T18:04:46 < kakimir> it has done everything and anything
2018-02-07T18:04:49 < kakimir> in the past
2018-02-07T18:13:36 < englishman> ok pros, problem
2018-02-07T18:13:53 < englishman> some fudds designed this constant current led driver for common anode, now the part is only available in common cathode
2018-02-07T18:14:01 < englishman> so i need some kind of adaptor / current mirror
2018-02-07T18:14:08 < englishman> it does RGB fading, flashing etc
2018-02-07T18:14:12 < englishman> controller is a TI part
2018-02-07T18:14:29 < kakimir> lol
2018-02-07T18:14:41 < kakimir> I did common anode to find out that mouser has really not that many of them
2018-02-07T18:14:58 < kakimir> but chinasupply yeah buddy
2018-02-07T18:15:11 < englishman> TLC59116IPWR
2018-02-07T18:16:24 < Rob235> back at the library
2018-02-07T18:16:34 < Rob235> print print print
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2018-02-07T18:35:09 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/k0z2QVi.png
2018-02-07T18:36:28 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxKnO9GzgQM you need to listen this song
2018-02-07T18:37:00 < kakimir> at some point you might think it's something you have heard before
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2018-02-07T18:51:46 < qyx> http://alignment.hep.brandeis.edu/Electronics/A2071/S2071_8.gif
2018-02-07T18:51:51 < qyx> comic book schematic
2018-02-07T18:54:07 < sync> I have received technical drawings by anime artists before
2018-02-07T18:54:19 < tomeaton17> Did realise I hated ruby this much. Trying to install a 5+ yr codebase on a new pi and all of the gems are broken and long since unmaintained. Great
2018-02-07T18:54:31 < sync> very kawaii~~ but dimensions were missing
2018-02-07T18:59:42 < BrainDamage> sync: can you upload it? now I'm curious
2018-02-07T19:00:05 < sync> I'd have to look for it
2018-02-07T19:00:09 < sync> when I find it I'll do
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2018-02-07T19:09:21 < englishman> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVZ0h3YW4AIc-9w.jpg:large
2018-02-07T19:09:31 < englishman> not sure if this is a cock-up or if they were going for altitude
2018-02-07T19:18:05 < qyx> did it go ariane mode and finished in a wrong orbit?
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2018-02-07T19:19:14 < englishman> who knows, they said they were going for mars-altitude but it's much beyond that, they can say whatever they like about mission success however
2018-02-07T19:19:23 < englishman> does that current mirror above look right to you
2018-02-07T19:19:28 < englishman> i should brototype it quickly
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2018-02-07T19:22:47 < qyx> idk, according to google it is ok but I haven't done that thing yet
2018-02-07T19:23:06 < Steffanx> It did. Mr musk confirmed its in the wrong orbit...
2018-02-07T19:23:29 < qyx> is it correctable?
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2018-02-07T19:24:10 < Steffanx> I read it will end up in an orbit between mars and jupiter
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2018-02-07T19:59:17 < upgrdman> lolwut. my coworkers are all sick. im the only one in the office.
2018-02-07T19:59:36 < upgrdman> (only 3 coworkers)
2018-02-07T19:59:57 < BrainDam1> time to party
2018-02-07T20:00:43 < BrainDam1> get booze and bring any cute worker from the same building
2018-02-07T20:00:44 < PaulFertser> Knowing ##stm32, it's more like time to jerk off :)
2018-02-07T20:00:56 < digitalpickle> Anyone play with memory mapped QSPI?
2018-02-07T20:01:14 < digitalpickle> I'd like to know if it'll work with sram instead of flash
2018-02-07T20:01:21 < BrainDam1> PaulFertser: not mutually exclusive
2018-02-07T20:01:45 < digitalpickle> I need some non-volatile battery backed sram, and I like the low pin count SPI option
2018-02-07T20:02:28 < digitalpickle> AN4760 mentions sram options, but no further details.
2018-02-07T20:02:48 < MrMobius> could you use FRAM?
2018-02-07T20:02:53 < digitalpickle> $$$
2018-02-07T20:03:21 < digitalpickle> I've got a coin cell onboard for RTC already
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2018-02-07T20:05:44 < polygon> hi
2018-02-07T20:05:46 < upgrdman> sounds like BrainDam1 == Louis C.K.
2018-02-07T20:06:04 < upgrdman> not a bad plan tho
2018-02-07T20:06:39 < BrainDam1> what do you know, maybe i write erotic fiction in my spare time
2018-02-07T20:07:03 < englishman> fram is awesome
2018-02-07T20:07:52 < BrainDam1> yeah fram is a good compromise for permanent ram
2018-02-07T20:08:16 < BrainDam1> it's not like you need uber speed on uc
2018-02-07T20:08:17 < upgrdman> i also use fram. 8kb cypress ftw
2018-02-07T20:08:44 < MrMobius> the fram Im using can do 80mhz spi
2018-02-07T20:08:49 < MrMobius> its pretty fast
2018-02-07T20:09:13 < digitalpickle> I'm thinking 128kB, so fram probably not in the budget.
2018-02-07T20:09:37 < digitalpickle> I'm just scared the memory mapped QSPI won't support writes,
2018-02-07T20:09:45 < digitalpickle> since all the examples are so geared to flash.
2018-02-07T20:17:30 < zyp> I don't think it supports writes
2018-02-07T20:19:37 < zyp> digitalpickle, also, you're aware that the chip already contains battery backed sram? (most highend parts, at least)
2018-02-07T20:21:16 < zyp> englishman, I don't think they were aiming for a precise orbit
2018-02-07T20:21:39 < englishman> yes, i figure that, but they can also benefit from unspecific mission goals
2018-02-07T20:23:09 < zyp> we're not within the transfer window to mars anyway, so from what I understand, the goal was just to prove they could place something in that general area
2018-02-07T20:23:10 < BrainDam1>  their mission goals were 2: test the rocket and get media advertising
2018-02-07T20:23:37 < BrainDam1> they just placed ine the orbit
2018-02-07T20:23:44 < englishman> dont think they ever meant to transfer to mars, but instead reach mars-altitude apogee, which they certainly did
2018-02-07T20:23:53 < zyp> exactly
2018-02-07T20:24:18 < BrainDam1> getting the actual window for tranfer has very tight time constraints
2018-02-07T20:25:22 < BrainDam1> as in if you fuck up you delay for months
2018-02-07T20:26:45 < BrainDam1> too bad they didn't add panels to it, it'd be cool to get a view everytime it does a flyby
2018-02-07T20:28:40 < zyp> agreed
2018-02-07T20:29:00 < zyp> probably adding a ton of complexity though
2018-02-07T20:30:40 < digitalpickle> zyp: yep, but the battery backed sections are smaller and not as low power
2018-02-07T20:31:05 < digitalpickle> I'm also undecided about internal RTC vs. external.
2018-02-07T20:31:17 < digitalpickle> Seems like the process technology for really low power isn't quite the same
2018-02-07T20:31:29 < digitalpickle> as for a mid to high end MCU.
2018-02-07T20:32:24 < zyp> you could offset the additional power draw by simply adding more capacity
2018-02-07T20:32:28 < digitalpickle> F7 series 4kB of backup ram. I'm looking for 128kB or so
2018-02-07T20:32:37 < zyp> giving less complexity than adding external memory
2018-02-07T20:32:54 < zyp> but yeah, if you really need more than 4k, you're out of luck
2018-02-07T20:33:08 < digitalpickle> Sure, but bigger batteries weigh more. We've seen them break of the boards.
2018-02-07T20:33:15 < zyp> may I ask what you'll be using it for?
2018-02-07T20:33:26 < digitalpickle> (Ended up using a foam sticky disk to keep it in place.)
2018-02-07T20:33:30 < digitalpickle> Industrial controls
2018-02-07T20:33:40 < zyp> yeah?
2018-02-07T20:34:34 < digitalpickle> (Currently running a CR2354 for RTC and BBRAM (2 x 128KB))
2018-02-07T20:35:06 < qyx> isnt it like 1mbit sram draws about ~4uA and stm32 rtc under 1uA?
2018-02-07T20:35:35 < zyp> stm32 backupsram is also in the 1uA range
2018-02-07T20:35:50 < digitalpickle> Worst case, I could toss an old parallel bus sram on the FMC
2018-02-07T20:37:23 < qyx> why do you need memory mapped?
2018-02-07T20:37:28 < zyp> what's your power scenario? how are your devices powered and when will they be unpowered?
2018-02-07T20:37:34 < digitalpickle> Or interrupt on power fail and copy to an external device
2018-02-07T20:37:49 < digitalpickle> Some are battery, some are AC.
2018-02-07T20:37:59 < digitalpickle> Have to deal with unexpected power loss.
2018-02-07T20:38:14 < qyx> do you rewrite the sram frequently?
2018-02-07T20:38:22 < digitalpickle> Yes.
2018-02-07T20:39:03 < zyp> I've made designs with a small supercap for the rtc, according to my estimates it should be good to run rtc and backupsram for a couple of days after a power loss
2018-02-07T20:39:11 < qyx> mybe some supercap & write to flash
2018-02-07T20:39:54 < digitalpickle> I'm ok with a coin cell for RTC, and I've even considered using supercap for sram
2018-02-07T20:40:09 < digitalpickle> If they lose the database after a week of downtime, it's probably ok
2018-02-07T20:40:20 < englishman> why supercap vs. cell battery? temperature reasons? do they have comparable energy density now?
2018-02-07T20:40:32 < digitalpickle> RTC must survive months of powerdown.
2018-02-07T20:41:11 < englishman> probably safer to write to flash and power down all but rtc?
2018-02-07T20:41:13 < polygon> i have an auto darkening helmet's brain here, do you think it has 2 rechargable batts in that are charged by the solar light too?
2018-02-07T20:41:15 < zyp> supercaps are rechargeable, so they don't need to be replaced, and you don't need any charge logic as for a rechargeable battery either
2018-02-07T20:42:03 < digitalpickle> just to be clear, I'm planning on a primary coin cell, not rechargeable
2018-02-07T20:42:08 < zyp> to run the rtc for months, a battery would be better though
2018-02-07T20:42:52 < polygon> a cr2032 can power the rtc for more than 3000 hours...
2018-02-07T20:42:56 < digitalpickle> Sorry to drag y'all through the weeds here, I was really just asking about memory mapped QSPI writes
2018-02-07T20:42:57 < polygon> most likely more than 30k
2018-02-07T20:43:18 < zyp> the device I designed is connected to the internet, so it synchronises with SNTP anyway, so a rtc loss only loses timestamps in logs until it manages to sync with SNTP again
2018-02-07T20:44:00 < zyp> digitalpickle, no problem, I was just interested in hearing your design considerations
2018-02-07T20:44:09 < qyx> we are all interested
2018-02-07T20:44:11 < qyx> as usual
2018-02-07T20:44:18 < digitalpickle> Sure!
2018-02-07T20:44:27 < digitalpickle> Big slow nonvolatile memory
2018-02-07T20:44:43 < digitalpickle> Mem mapped would make software easier
2018-02-07T20:45:00 < digitalpickle> Previous gen ran battery backed parallel sram, works great
2018-02-07T20:45:14 < digitalpickle> Saw SPI option as a way to reduce pin count
2018-02-07T20:45:36 < qyx> I have a board here which needs some space for fifo buffer, I used SPI sram because lazyness
2018-02-07T20:45:44 < qyx> and the F3 didn't have enough internal sram
2018-02-07T20:45:48 < digitalpickle> noticed qspi flash is dirt cheap, found qspi sram
2018-02-07T20:46:02 < digitalpickle> considering flushing volatile sram to flash on powerdown
2018-02-07T20:46:55 < digitalpickle> undecided on internal vs. external RTC
2018-02-07T20:47:04 < qyx> spi nor flashe write speed is not that great btw
2018-02-07T20:47:16 < digitalpickle> Probably doesn't matter, but I'm not sure I trust the internal RTC power specs over temp
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2018-02-07T20:47:59 < polygon> digitalpickle: you already have an rtc that consumes microamps in sleep mode
2018-02-07T20:48:08 < digitalpickle> qyx: yeah, that would be a concern. Even if I avoid the erase, it might take a bunch of caps to keep the rails up
2018-02-07T20:49:12 < polygon> digitalpickle: you cant trust rtc, it increments h m s vars separately lol, and it handles adjustments by skipping or double incrementing a second
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2018-02-07T20:56:07 < digitalpickle> Maybe copy ram to spi sram at powerdown would be quick enough (qspi+dma?)
2018-02-07T21:27:46 < upgrdman> lol https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/02/07/cornell-frat-on-probation-after-a-pig-roast-contest-to-have-sex-with-overweight-women/?utm_term=.ed0367de548c
2018-02-07T21:28:49 < upgrdman> "The rules were simple: Would-be brothers allegedly earned points for having sex with overweight women. If there was a tie at the end of the game, the victory went to whoever had slept with the heaviest woman. New members were told not to inform the women about the contest, according to a university report."
2018-02-07T21:30:58 < digitalpickle> I've put in a support request with ST about QSPI memory mapped r/w mode. I'll update when I learn something.
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2018-02-07T21:44:09 < Thorn> 	http://coub.com/view/131ouj
2018-02-07T21:47:07 < Steffanx> Cant i even like that without an acccount?! -_-
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2018-02-07T21:59:28 < Rob235> today blows
2018-02-07T21:59:35 < Rob235> the printer keeps fucking up
2018-02-07T21:59:51 < Rob235> 4 hours wasted
2018-02-07T22:00:37 < jpa-> i got my printer printing a bit better now
2018-02-07T22:00:45 < jpa-> though my extruder is still skipping steps
2018-02-07T22:02:53 < Steffanx> the cnc 3d printer?
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2018-02-07T22:03:24 < jpa-> that
2018-02-07T22:03:50 < jpa-> first it didn't push enough plastic, so i thought "more heat!".. then everything melted
2018-02-07T22:04:14 < jpa-> cleaned that up, figured out that i just had to tighten the extruder spring
2018-02-07T22:04:45 < jpa-> i wonder if that chinese stepper motor is actually giving 0.60Nm of torque like the label on its side says
2018-02-07T22:04:54 < Ultrasauce> walking the tightrope between the stepper skipping and the extruder just chewing up the filament sucks
2018-02-07T22:05:18 < zyp> sounds like shitty extruder design
2018-02-07T22:06:15 < jpa-> my extruder doesn't chew stuff up much, but switching from abs to pla the tension has to be adjusted
2018-02-07T22:06:19 < zyp> I haven't had any problems with the e3d titan, it extrudes just fine without skipping or chewing
2018-02-07T22:06:49 < jpa-> http://essentialscrap.com/3dprinter/extruder_closeup.jpg  double sided teeth :P
2018-02-07T22:07:09 < Ultrasauce> nice
2018-02-07T22:07:25 < jpa-> but being direct drive it is rather prone to skipping steps
2018-02-07T22:07:35 < jpa-> possibly just switching to a better stepper would help
2018-02-07T22:14:18 < jpa-> https://d3ncwv2e9zpfbf.cloudfront.net/200426086-800x_.jpg    meanwhile in finland
2018-02-07T22:18:44 < Steffanx> jpa- got infected by Blaxteritus.
2018-02-07T22:19:13 < Steffanx> First 4 chan pics, now this..
2018-02-07T22:22:56 < Steffanx> -
2018-02-07T22:23:01 < jpa-> sorry
2018-02-07T22:23:53 < Steffanx> :P
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2018-02-07T22:29:01 < Steffanx> i guess
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2018-02-08T00:32:23 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/karpathy/status/961307010246492160
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2018-02-08T00:50:39 < Thorn> so LPC8xxx have 4 high current GPIOs, but 3 of them are on SWDIO, SWCLK and ISP pins wtf lol
2018-02-08T00:53:09 < Ultrasauce> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6t3AnHE1vI
2018-02-08T00:53:13 < Ultrasauce> lol motor control using the FPU
2018-02-08T00:54:26 < karlp> Thorn: aren't they are only 8 pin anyway?
2018-02-08T00:54:55 < Thorn> tssop20 & qfn33
2018-02-08T00:55:52 < Thorn> (at least lpc82x that I'm looking at right now)
2018-02-08T00:56:48 < Thorn> mostly 16, 20 and 32 pins https://www.nxp.com/products/processors-and-microcontrollers/arm-based-processors-and-mcus/lpc-cortex-m-mcus/lpc800-series-cortex-m0-plus-mcus:MC_71785
2018-02-08T00:58:18 < Thorn> who wanted a new job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Zz2Y5B_K0
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2018-02-08T00:58:58 < Ultrasauce> at my city's little airport they stick a guy with a hose on a cherry picker
2018-02-08T00:59:23 < Ultrasauce> probably a pretty damn unpleasant job
2018-02-08T01:00:01 < englishman> probably $80/hr
2018-02-08T01:02:31 < Thorn> why is there a "no calculators" sign on the front window
2018-02-08T01:03:47 < Ultrasauce> so he doesn't calculate
2018-02-08T01:06:04  * jadew got netflix
2018-02-08T01:06:14 < jadew> they don't have a lot of stuff I like
2018-02-08T01:06:38 < Ultrasauce> my favourite is when they license a season or two of a thing I do like
2018-02-08T01:06:43 < Ultrasauce> and then I have to go torrent the rest
2018-02-08T01:07:13 < jadew> oh, they do that?
2018-02-08T01:08:34 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
2018-02-08T01:09:34 < jadew> they don't have stargate :/
2018-02-08T01:09:58 < Steffanx> You dont want that lol
2018-02-08T01:10:24 < jadew> stargate, not startrek
2018-02-08T01:11:00 < jadew> only the new star trek sucks
2018-02-08T01:11:16 < Steffanx> Discovery?
2018-02-08T01:11:19 < jadew> yeah
2018-02-08T01:11:33 < Steffanx> The old crap sucks.
2018-02-08T01:11:46 < jadew> I could watch TNG
2018-02-08T01:12:02 < jadew> it's not great, but it reminds me of childhood
2018-02-08T01:12:24 < jadew> and if you watch it with the understanding that they were exploring ideas, it's ok
2018-02-08T01:12:59 < jadew> gonna watch death note now
2018-02-08T01:13:27 < jadew> saw the anime 10 years ago, thought it was good
2018-02-08T01:14:02 < Steffanx> Whats next? Dragonball z?
2018-02-08T01:14:11 < jadew> I don't know that one
2018-02-08T01:14:25 < jadew> I know samurai x tho
2018-02-08T01:15:04 < jadew> death note is now a movie
2018-02-08T01:15:10 < jadew> (in case you're wondering)
2018-02-08T01:15:14 < jadew> and the anime was really good
2018-02-08T01:16:32 < jadew> the actors are not asian, so it's not happening in japan
2018-02-08T01:21:05 < Ultrasauce> don't watch the movie it's bad
2018-02-08T01:21:09 < Ultrasauce> really. bad.
2018-02-08T01:21:20 < jadew> oh...
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2018-02-08T01:51:21 < sync> https://www.dow.com/en-us/products/ucaraircraftdeicingfluidxl54 hm, interesting
2018-02-08T01:57:12 < jadew> Ultrasauce, you were right, I'm watching it and it seems like they tried to squish the whole thing in 2 hours, but failed to make a smooth transition between acts
2018-02-08T01:57:50 < Laurenceb_> jadew: you watching the black panther?
2018-02-08T01:58:27 < jadew> Laurenceb_, didn't know it's out
2018-02-08T01:58:32 < jadew> I'm watching death note
2018-02-08T01:58:43 < Laurenceb_> so your a racist then
2018-02-08T01:58:52 < Laurenceb_> you have to watch black panther
2018-02-08T01:58:53 < jadew> lol
2018-02-08T01:59:04 < jadew> I'm sure I will, when it comes out
2018-02-08T01:59:14 < Laurenceb_> tfw rotten tomatoes has banned all negative reviews
2018-02-08T01:59:24 < jadew> right now I'm surprised they didn't even make M japanese, given the action seems to happen in japan
2018-02-08T01:59:28 < jadew> they made him black
2018-02-08T01:59:40 < jadew> Laurenceb_, is it that bad?
2018-02-08T02:00:27 < Laurenceb_> apparently
2018-02-08T02:00:34 < Laurenceb_> I never watch any capeshit
2018-02-08T02:00:46 < Laurenceb_> I watched watchmen but it was too autistic
2018-02-08T02:01:04 < Laurenceb_> regular capeshit is that autistic and mega retarded too
2018-02-08T02:01:08 < BrainDamage> he's only interested in all female remake of classics, so he can leave a shit review
2018-02-08T02:02:35 < jadew> there are a couple of ok superhero movies/shows out there
2018-02-08T02:02:44 < jadew> daredevil was nice, but they canceled it
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2018-02-08T02:04:26 < jadew> can't think of another one right now
2018-02-08T02:04:31 < jadew> yeah, most of them are shit
2018-02-08T02:05:49 < jadew> Laurenceb_, from watchmen I wanted to be the blue guy
2018-02-08T02:06:02 < jadew> he could bang his girl and work at the same time
2018-02-08T02:08:28 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6wUYvL_woI
2018-02-08T02:09:03 < Rob235> is today over yet?
2018-02-08T02:09:18 < Rob235> the library was too cold to print... prints wouldnt stick to the bed
2018-02-08T02:09:25 < Rob235> waste of a day
2018-02-08T02:09:42 < Laurenceb_> wait wut
2018-02-08T02:09:46 < Laurenceb_> uni library?
2018-02-08T02:09:54 < Rob235> no, regular town library
2018-02-08T02:10:00 < Laurenceb_> haha wew
2018-02-08T02:10:13 < Laurenceb_> u carried a 3d printer into town library and set it up?
2018-02-08T02:10:30 < Rob235> I dont have a 3d printer, I went because they have one
2018-02-08T02:10:56 < Rob235> its a shitty replicator 5th gen without a heated bed
2018-02-08T02:12:49 < Laurenceb_> what the heck
2018-02-08T02:13:01 < Laurenceb_> pc libraries dont have anything like that
2018-02-08T02:13:10 < Rob235> pc?
2018-02-08T02:13:33 < Laurenceb_> uk
2018-02-08T02:13:44 < Laurenceb_> I mean they just have a couple of old pcs
2018-02-08T02:13:47 < Rob235> My town library doesnt, but I looked online and found a town 30 min away in the same network as my library so I can use my library card there
2018-02-08T02:13:55 < Laurenceb_> and some homeless people sleeping under the tables
2018-02-08T02:14:00 < Rob235> theres quite a few libraries with 3d printers here
2018-02-08T02:14:13 < Rob235> in the US
2018-02-08T02:14:34 < Laurenceb_> crazy, thought public services there were worse than uk
2018-02-08T02:14:59 < Laurenceb_> in uk libraries you might be able to score some class A drugs, so there is that
2018-02-08T02:15:16 < Rob235> they have a 3d scanner, vinyl cutter, sewing machine, soldering irons, 3d pen, who knows what else in their "Idea Farm" roo
2018-02-08T02:15:17 < Rob235> m
2018-02-08T02:15:33 < Laurenceb_> wow
2018-02-08T02:15:40 < Rob235> its a really nice library
2018-02-08T02:15:49 < Laurenceb_> here libraries are places for losers and weirdos to hang out, think 4chan irl
2018-02-08T02:15:56 < Rob235> sucks
2018-02-08T02:16:21 < Rob235> they offer different classes every day too that are free
2018-02-08T02:16:42 < Ultrasauce> well, 3d printers are the ultimate tool for losers and weirdos
2018-02-08T02:16:50 < Rob235> that is true
2018-02-08T02:18:48 < Laurenceb_> twf too stupid to get the references https://imgoat.com/uploads/8d30a95947/83367.png
2018-02-08T02:19:27 < branjb> library == makerspace?
2018-02-08T02:19:36 < branjb> tax payer funded makerspace
2018-02-08T02:21:09 < Rob235> basically
2018-02-08T02:21:36 < Rob235> the librarian took pics of my project so far to possibly post on their website
2018-02-08T02:21:47 < Laurenceb_> my friend from uni got b& from local makerspace
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2018-02-08T02:22:09 < Rob235> did he print a gun?
2018-02-08T02:22:30 < Laurenceb_> no, a 3d child sex doll in lots of sections
2018-02-08T02:22:40 < Rob235> idiot
2018-02-08T02:23:07 < Ultrasauce> thingiverse link plz
2018-02-08T02:23:31 < Rob235> I used a thingiverse bird bath as my castle inspiration
2018-02-08T02:23:53 < Rob235> only thing that I downloaded and used was a low poly owl though
2018-02-08T02:25:34 < Rob235> from https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:116297 to https://rjfeddeler.imgur.com/all/
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2018-02-08T03:08:50 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone have an idea where can I find a pinout for this dot matrix display -> https://www.ebay.ca/itm/MAX7219-8x8-3mm-5mm-Dot-Matrix-Display-Red-Full-Color-RGB-LED-DIY-Kit-f-Arduino/172888557822
2018-02-08T03:09:05 < dongs> thats the good thing about those
2018-02-08T03:09:11 < dongs> you dont need to know the pinout
2018-02-08T03:09:13 < dongs> because its standard
2018-02-08T03:09:59 < dongs> https://i.stack.imgur.com/HFHi9.jpg
2018-02-08T03:10:00 < dongs> etc
2018-02-08T03:10:07 < dongs> just google any common anode rgb matrix
2018-02-08T03:10:11 < dongs> and copy pinout
2018-02-08T03:10:17 < dongs> i made a carrier board for one of t hose loong time ago
2018-02-08T03:10:33 < ColdKeyboard> Laurenceb_: I've solved that RTC issue. You were right, RTC crystal was drifting but reason behind it was funny, on blue pill board one of the outputs of RTC crystal were touching the case of HSE crystal on board, but only if you shake the board since it was soldered loosly. I just resoldered HSE crystal and moved it a further back from RTC one and it's workign flawlessly now :)
2018-02-08T03:10:53 < dongs> cool
2018-02-08T03:10:55 < ColdKeyboard> dongs: So this is a standard and all of them are/have to be the same?
2018-02-08T03:11:11 < Laurenceb_> ah nice
2018-02-08T03:11:21 < ColdKeyboard> Not sure if there are some dodgy "clones" that have random pinout or something
2018-02-08T03:11:25 < dongs> ColdKeyboard: yea, or else nobody iwll buy the shit
2018-02-08T03:11:37 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=dMO_7iHXYhg
2018-02-08T03:11:38 < ColdKeyboard> dongs: Sweet! Didn't know that
2018-02-08T03:12:56 < dongs> https://hobbyking.com/media/file/56722338X633087X26.pdf
2018-02-08T03:12:59 < dongs> this is exactly the one I used
2018-02-08T03:13:04 < dongs> and looks like pic is identical
2018-02-08T03:15:19 < ColdKeyboard> You have datasheet for it, that's sweet
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2018-02-08T03:15:36 < ColdKeyboard> This thing is so tiny can't even find Pin 1 indicator :D
2018-02-08T03:16:57 < ColdKeyboard> but it's so darn cute, it's like 2x2 cm :D
2018-02-08T03:18:47 < ColdKeyboard> dongs: It works! Thanks a milion!
2018-02-08T03:29:57 < Laurenceb_> I was reading this article, and having read the article which I was reading, I have now been able to have the article read.
2018-02-08T03:30:09 < Laurenceb_> "It's fantastic that the article has been read," posted one online commenter. "The contents of the article absolutely must be read."
2018-02-08T03:30:39 < steverrrr> pics or it didn't happen
2018-02-08T03:30:42 < Laurenceb_> The article, which contains many words and phrases used by articles of its kind, was described as having been read by internet users, who read these words and phrases.
2018-02-08T03:31:34 < Laurenceb_> According to Professor NotInvolvedWithTheContentsOfTheArticle, more articles like this one may be written in the future. "We hope that more articles like this one will be written," he added.
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2018-02-08T03:57:33 < Laurenceb_> https://archive.fo/pWXzD wtf am I reading
2018-02-08T04:05:02 < Laurenceb_> https://www.reddit.com/r/hyperloop/comments/7ubz8g/furry_hyperloop_tube/
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2018-02-08T04:20:21 < upgrdman> https://gfycat.com/OblongFirmBullfrog
2018-02-08T04:20:28 < upgrdman> *_*
2018-02-08T04:21:39 < Laurenceb_> the memes are real
2018-02-08T04:24:58 < branjb> lol
2018-02-08T04:25:15 < Laurenceb_> Milo likes this
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2018-02-08T06:02:09 < dongs> hey hey. so my internet "problem" was billing t hat someone 20km away forgot to do
2018-02-08T06:02:43 < dongs> very nice of everyone to not notice it
2018-02-08T06:02:48 < dongs> wasted hours of time trying to figure shit out
2018-02-08T06:03:18 < dongs> i can even ping ipv6 youtube
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2018-02-08T06:21:20 < aandrew> altium 17 seems crashier in layout than 16 was
2018-02-08T06:22:38 < dongs> i havent had problems
2018-02-08T06:26:29 < dongs> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Fedorahosted-retirement
2018-02-08T06:26:30 < dongs> haha
2018-02-08T06:26:32 < dongs> typical lunix
2018-02-08T06:32:20 < dongs> interesting
2018-02-08T06:32:23 < dongs> my v6 ping is 12ms
2018-02-08T06:32:25 < dongs> v4, 25ms
2018-02-08T06:32:35 < dongs> (to same host)
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2018-02-08T08:47:23 < Eljotto> Good morning everyone
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2018-02-08T09:24:12 < kakimir> is there editor like eclipse but without being eclipse.. I mean I want to click on function instance and get instantly file open for it that shows the function definition
2018-02-08T09:30:11 < kakimir> what is purpose of transistor to 3v3 in usbdp line?
2018-02-08T09:30:18 < kakimir> pullup
2018-02-08T09:32:29 < kakimir> de fak? stm32 hal reffers to gpio pins by pin number
2018-02-08T09:32:38 < kakimir> not port and bit number
2018-02-08T09:33:25 < MrMobius> hold on, do you mean ST is introducing non sensical abstractins again???
2018-02-08T09:33:53 < kakimir> you mean sensical or non-sensical depending on perspective?
2018-02-08T09:34:43 < MrMobius> depending on your autism
2018-02-08T09:35:05 < kakimir> wait... how do these actually work
2018-02-08T09:35:25 < kakimir> #define WKUP GPIO_Pin_0
2018-02-08T09:35:56 < kakimir> what does it mean
2018-02-08T09:36:51 < kakimir> wakeup pin is pin number 23 or 10 depending on package and it's port and bit is A0
2018-02-08T09:37:27 < kakimir> but line macro define above doesn't have 'A'
2018-02-08T09:39:13 < kakimir> OH
2018-02-08T09:39:37 < kakimir> ports are hardcoded in gpio.c
2018-02-08T09:39:56 < kakimir> you just change the bit in gpio.h
2018-02-08T09:42:18 < kakimir> Baxter! Where are you?
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2018-02-08T09:44:25 < dongs> banned, hopefully
2018-02-08T09:44:52 < kakimir> he has shown positive attitude latelly
2018-02-08T09:45:19 < kakimir> :/
2018-02-08T09:45:52 < MrMobius> ooh, VB6 I hope
2018-02-08T09:46:45 < MrMobius> visual studio from 2002 or something newer?
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2018-02-08T09:46:56 < kakimir> I did really nice app in some.. turbo basic or something like that from 80s
2018-02-08T09:47:01 < kakimir> in school
2018-02-08T09:47:38 < kakimir> we needed to launch dos for it
2018-02-08T09:48:32 < Eljotto> I'm still fighting with ST Link, trying to get swd debuging to work. I switched to windows, it should be easier to make it work here, and later try on linux (when everything works)
2018-02-08T09:50:04 < Eljotto> This is what I done so far - I installed cubemx & systemworkbench, created a project, compiled, had no trouble flashing my board (bluepill, stm32f103) over serial. I installed openocd and GNU MCU Plugin for eclipse, set the paths in eclipse to point to my openocd
2018-02-08T09:50:14 < Eljotto> please, ubuntu is not real linux
2018-02-08T09:50:34 < kakimir> mint is better
2018-02-08T09:50:38 < Eljotto> https://gnu-mcu-eclipse.github.io/debug/openocd/#define-the-openocd-folder-location
2018-02-08T09:50:40 < kakimir> ! 8)
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2018-02-08T09:50:52 < Eljotto> I did all that, including setting Debug Configuration for openocd
2018-02-08T09:51:25 < Eljotto> the error I now get is http://paste.debian.net/1009297/
2018-02-08T09:52:14 < dongs> have you tried: using windows
2018-02-08T09:52:26 < Eljotto> I am on windows now
2018-02-08T09:53:32 < MrMobius> why are you on IRC on a train?
2018-02-08T09:53:34 < dongs> jump in front of the train instead
2018-02-08T09:53:42 < dongs> like a jap
2018-02-08T09:53:50 < Eljotto> anyway
2018-02-08T09:53:57 < Eljotto> what do I do wrong and how do I make it work?
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2018-02-08T10:03:43 < kakimir> dongs, are you ultra nationalist?
2018-02-08T10:05:02 < MrMobius> Eljotto, give up and use LEDs to debug?
2018-02-08T10:05:45 < Eljotto> nope
2018-02-08T10:08:17 < Eljotto> ok, I changed the parameters for openocd, "-f interface/stlink.cfg -c "transport select hla_swd" -f target/stm32f1x.cfg", now I get this error - http://paste.debian.net/1009298/
2018-02-08T10:09:07 < Eljotto> I'm powering my stm32 from usb, connected 4 wired to stlink - VCC to 3.3V (pin 1 on stlink), swdio and swclk to pin7 and pin9, and ground to pin 18
2018-02-08T10:09:40 < MrMobius> you could be flashing two debug LEDs at once with those pins
2018-02-08T10:09:41 < Eljotto> tried all possible combinations of boot jumpers (11, 10, 01, 00, none, both
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2018-02-08T10:22:20 < kakimir> MrMobius, once you go with debugger there is no going back
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2018-02-08T10:46:08 < Eljotto> I get "usb communication error" in ST Link utility. Didn't even try to connect to target device, just opened settings - it detects the st link, but after few seconds dies
2018-02-08T10:46:29 < dongs> is it a shitty chinaclone
2018-02-08T10:47:49 < Eljotto> no
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2018-02-08T10:49:43 < MrMobius> [02:49] <Eljotto> This is what I done so far - I installed cubemx & systemworkbench, created a project, compiled, had no trouble flashing my board (bluepill, stm32f103) over serial.
2018-02-08T10:49:44 < MrMobius> ?
2018-02-08T10:50:14 < Eljotto> USB->UART, flashing in bootloader mode is working
2018-02-08T10:50:27 < Eljotto> but st link? that shit doesn't work
2018-02-08T10:51:08 < zyp> so it's able to find the stlink and read the target voltage, but unable to connect to the target
2018-02-08T10:51:29 < Eljotto> so it seems
2018-02-08T10:52:05 < zyp> that suggests that there's something wrong with the swd connection
2018-02-08T10:52:14 < dongs> not at this point
2018-02-08T10:52:19 < dongs> since his USB shit cant even detect it
2018-02-08T10:52:23 < dongs> i think he installed some opensores
2018-02-08T10:52:24 < zyp> dongs, but it can
2018-02-08T10:52:29 < dongs> that maybe installed zadig or some otehr trash
2018-02-08T10:52:32 < dongs> over stlink driversa
2018-02-08T10:52:35 < dongs> and now hes fucked
2018-02-08T10:52:39 < dongs> cuz that shit is non-removable aids
2018-02-08T10:52:45 < zyp> dongs, according to the log he pasted, it can even read the target voltage
2018-02-08T10:52:51 < dongs> that was yesterday
2018-02-08T10:52:57 < dongs> < Eljotto> I get "usb communication error" in ST Link utility.
2018-02-08T10:53:00 < dongs> today he gets this
2018-02-08T10:53:16 < Eljotto> dongs, stlink utility has some weird errors, yes
2018-02-08T10:53:41 < zyp> yeah, in that case it's probably driver binding, I'm talking about openocd connecting now
2018-02-08T10:54:36 < zyp> to fix driver binding, easiest trick is usually to find the device in device manager, delete it, then rediscover it
2018-02-08T10:54:45 < zyp> that should get windows to bind the default driver to it
2018-02-08T10:54:57 < Eljotto> http://paste.debian.net/1009302/ this is what eclipse says when I try to debug now
2018-02-08T10:55:32 < dongs> zyp, thats if it wasn't aids'd by zadig/libusb
2018-02-08T10:55:36 < dongs> once it was, youre fucked
2018-02-08T10:55:50 < zyp> Eljotto, that looks good, as far as usb is concerned
2018-02-08T10:56:04 < zyp> like I said, it can read the target voltage, so openocd can talk properly to the debugger
2018-02-08T10:56:10 < dongs> Ya
2018-02-08T10:56:20 < Eljotto> I don't recall installing any zadig stuff, unless something installed it automatically, which I doubt
2018-02-08T10:56:22 < zyp> and this indicates that it's the swd connection that's not functional
2018-02-08T10:56:24 < dongs> swap swdio/clk around?
2018-02-08T10:56:26 < dongs> in case you fucked it up
2018-02-08T10:57:42 < zyp> I suggest taking some photos of how you've got the debugger hooked up to the board, get another set of eyes on the wiring to check that it looks correct
2018-02-08T10:57:43 < Eljotto> already tried
2018-02-08T10:58:42 < zyp> without seeing what you've done, we can only guess that you've got it wrong :)
2018-02-08T10:59:14 < Eljotto> sure, gimme a sec
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2018-02-08T11:01:32 < Eljotto> https://pasteboard.co/H6Fh0sb.png
2018-02-08T11:03:53 < zyp> uh, that does not look right at all
2018-02-08T11:04:48 < dongs> did he plug it into the opposite row
2018-02-08T11:04:53 < dongs> thats all mostly gnd pins?
2018-02-08T11:05:28 < zyp> no, he plugged it in mirrored, as if pinout were looking into the plug, not looking into the socket
2018-02-08T11:05:43 < Eljotto> cannot be
2018-02-08T11:06:32 < zyp> http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/ulinkpro/ulinkpro_jtag_20pin_swm.gif <- here's the pinout, you seem to have tried to plug into 1, 7, 9 and 18 which would be correct
2018-02-08T11:06:52 < zyp> but you have instead plugged into 19, 13, 11 and 4, which is wrong
2018-02-08T11:07:15 < Eljotto> but the VCC is only on pin 1, which would suggest I actualy did it right
2018-02-08T11:08:27 < zyp> well, I'm also wondering why it can measure an actual target voltage, but I figure that could be leakage from the voltage you're feeding in somewhere else
2018-02-08T11:08:48 < Eljotto> I unpluged the USB cable to stm32 now
2018-02-08T11:08:59 < Eljotto> so stm32 get its voltage onlt from st link
2018-02-08T11:09:09 < Eljotto> it lights up when I connect it like on the picture
2018-02-08T11:09:50 < zyp> ah, stlink provides power on pin 19 as well, it has some extensions to the standard pinout
2018-02-08T11:10:00 < zyp> ref. https://www.waveshare.com/img/devkit/general/connector-layout-20pin_h220.jpg
2018-02-08T11:12:58 < qyx> it is mirrored as zyp says
2018-02-08T11:13:05 < zyp> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/user_manual/65/e0/44/72/9e/34/41/8d/DM00026748.pdf/files/DM00026748.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00026748.pdf
2018-02-08T11:13:14 < zyp> refer to page 12 there, power out on pin 19
2018-02-08T11:13:18 < qyx> it is a header pinout on the zyps picture
2018-02-08T11:13:18 < zyp> and you have ground on pin 4
2018-02-08T11:13:24 < zyp> so mirroring them happens to work
2018-02-08T11:14:24 < zyp> but mirroring the swd signals obviously doesn't, which explains why the board gets powered but you still can't connect
2018-02-08T11:14:38 < Eljotto> then my board must be borked then
2018-02-08T11:14:54 < Eljotto> cause I only got 5V, and only on 1 pin, no VCC on any other pin, and no 3.3 :/
2018-02-08T11:15:10 < zyp> there's probably nothing wrong with your board, just fix the connections
2018-02-08T11:17:24 < Eljotto> https://pasteboard.co/H6FnQs8.png where is pin1 then
2018-02-08T11:17:30 < Eljotto> cause there seem to be confusion
2018-02-08T11:18:17 < zyp> pin 1 is upper right in your picture, there's even a white mark on the pcb to show that
2018-02-08T11:18:50 < Eljotto> the white mark says "J4" so not exactly pointing pin 1
2018-02-08T11:19:03 < zyp> ok, fair, it's still pin 1
2018-02-08T11:20:00 < Eljotto> okay
2018-02-08T11:21:02 < zyp> just remember that looking into a plug is mirrored from looking into a socket, and all pinout diagrams normally show looking into the socket
2018-02-08T11:21:29 < Eljotto> https://pasteboard.co/H6Fptpi.png this is how I connect now
2018-02-08T11:21:41 < Eljotto> the boards isn't powered
2018-02-08T11:21:54 < zyp> that is correct
2018-02-08T11:21:55 < Eljotto> so I guess thats what confused me
2018-02-08T11:22:05 < zyp> pin 1 is reference voltage, not output voltage
2018-02-08T11:22:36 < zyp> i.e. the stlink uses pin 1 to measure the voltage from your board, not to supply voltage to it
2018-02-08T11:23:05 < zyp> debuggers normally do not supply voltage to targets
2018-02-08T11:23:28 < zyp> pin 19 happens to do that, however, as an extension to the standard
2018-02-08T11:23:47 < zyp> in the arm-standard pinout, pin 19 is not connected to anything
2018-02-08T11:23:50 < Eljotto> yeah, the pinout I saw said pin19 not connected
2018-02-08T11:24:05 < Eljotto> it seems it worked
2018-02-08T11:24:32 < Eljotto> thanks
2018-02-08T11:24:35 < zyp> np
2018-02-08T11:24:42 < Eljotto> now, to the linux\
2018-02-08T11:25:11 < zyp> when openocd works on windows, there's no reason it shouldn't work equally well on linux
2018-02-08T11:25:30 < zyp> only difference is that linux is stricter about usb permissions
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2018-02-08T11:28:17 < dongs> bad choice
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2018-02-08T11:42:18 < dongs> those of you wiht STM32s out in the wild in 24/7 operation how often do you get wd reset due to cosmic rays flipping bits in ram?
2018-02-08T11:45:59 < qyx> is there a dedicated status bit for cosmic rays?
2018-02-08T11:46:44 < dongs> of course
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2018-02-08T12:06:02 < Eljotto> so it does look better, I was able to flash over stlink
2018-02-08T12:06:56 < Eljotto> but debuging itself doesn't work http://paste.debian.net/1009312/
2018-02-08T12:07:14 < karlp> dongs: will try and let you know, but only just started collecting that sort of infomration
2018-02-08T12:09:28 < dongs> karlp: have you ever had a wd reset you couldn't explain other than cosmic rays tho?
2018-02-08T12:10:16 < karlp> I've always assumed it was an undiscovered bug in our code
2018-02-08T12:10:25 < karlp> but honestly, we never had stats on it in the past.
2018-02-08T12:10:44 < dongs> rioght
2018-02-08T12:11:15 < dongs> i just don't see something external causing a condition where watchdog would be reset that wasn't a software fuckup
2018-02-08T12:11:21 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: what does openocd say during that?
2018-02-08T12:11:39 < dongs> like, over/under voltage will be a hardware reset, ESD/etc will probably just fry shit, so on
2018-02-08T12:13:24 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, http://paste.debian.net/1009314/ looks like some reset issue to me, but what do I know
2018-02-08T12:13:45 < dongs> not halted = do you have 'reset' pin connected?
2018-02-08T12:13:55 < Eljotto> nope
2018-02-08T12:14:02 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: that sounds like your reset pin is tied low.
2018-02-08T12:14:03 < dongs> can you tell openAIDS to use core reset
2018-02-08T12:14:12 < dongs> instead of physical reset button?
2018-02-08T12:14:33 < dongs> button->pin
2018-02-08T12:14:38 < PaulFertser> Yes, but if the physical pin is low, nothing can override it.
2018-02-08T12:14:54 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: what's your reset_config?
2018-02-08T12:15:06 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: do you have srst_only there? If yes, remove it or connect reset to the debugger.
2018-02-08T12:17:18 < Eljotto> not sure where to look
2018-02-08T12:17:35 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: your board config
2018-02-08T12:18:07 < dongs> PaulFertser: bluepill has no reset broken out on the header iirc
2018-02-08T12:18:13 < dongs> just vcc/swd/clk/gnd
2018-02-08T12:18:21 < PaulFertser> dongs: it has it on the side header
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2018-02-08T12:18:35 < dongs> oh does it?
2018-02-08T12:18:40 < dongs> one of the pins on the dip connector?
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2018-02-08T12:18:47 < stvn> free software
2018-02-08T12:18:56 < dongs> how did you know thats what we're discussing right now
2018-02-08T12:19:10 < stvn> just booted up linux myself
2018-02-08T12:19:20 < dongs> awful
2018-02-08T12:19:28 < stvn> tell me about it
2018-02-08T12:19:37 < stvn> this thing eats dicks with no vga driver
2018-02-08T12:19:37 < dongs> how were you even able to get online
2018-02-08T12:19:41 < dongs> last time I booted lunix
2018-02-08T12:19:45 < dongs> it had some non-free realtek driver
2018-02-08T12:19:49 < dongs> that wouldnt connect to internet
2018-02-08T12:19:53 < dongs> and i needed to connect to internet
2018-02-08T12:19:56 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-08T12:19:59 < dongs> to download a new non-fdree realtek driver
2018-02-08T12:20:01 < dongs> ???????????????
2018-02-08T12:20:06 < stvn> crazy thing though
2018-02-08T12:20:21 < stvn> i've never had wifi issue with gnu
2018-02-08T12:20:27 < dongs> sorry to hear that
2018-02-08T12:20:35 < dongs> ive never actualyl heard of it working
2018-02-08T12:20:43 < dongs> i mean, with quality software like "wpa_supplicant" what could go wrong
2018-02-08T12:20:50 < stvn> rofl!
2018-02-08T12:20:51 < dongs> opensores faggots win at amazing names
2018-02-08T12:21:00 < stvn> supplicant
2018-02-08T12:21:12 < stvn> sounds like something to stick up their arse
2018-02-08T12:21:15 < PaulFertser> There's another NIH supplicant now, so you can choose between wpa_supplicant and cant-remember-what :)
2018-02-08T12:21:33 < stvn> just like wayland and xorg right
2018-02-08T12:21:37 < PaulFertser> I think supplicant is taken verbatim from wifi standards.
2018-02-08T12:21:41 < stvn> we have at least 2 of everything!
2018-02-08T12:21:52 < Eljotto> why would you use wifi in the first place #Lancablemasterrace
2018-02-08T12:22:03 < Eljotto> with non open drivers and stuff
2018-02-08T12:22:16 < stvn> hmmmm
2018-02-08T12:22:27 < stvn> Eljotto: did you get your stm32 working yet?
2018-02-08T12:22:52 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, it says reset_config srst_nogate
2018-02-08T12:23:08 < stvn> also where is gnu hurd
2018-02-08T12:23:26 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: if you pasted full output of openocd started with -d3 and attempt to flash from gdb, I could tell you more.
2018-02-08T12:23:26 < dongs> i heard it Laurence/b/ was porting GNU/Turd to STM32F7
2018-02-08T12:23:28 < dongs> or was that R2COM
2018-02-08T12:23:51 < stvn> laurence is a free software operator
2018-02-08T12:24:03 < stvn> r2 would probably say HURD IS FOR FUCKING FAGGOTS
2018-02-08T12:25:58 < Eljotto> http://paste.debian.net/1009315/
2018-02-08T12:26:38 < stvn> i have to restard my cuntputer
2018-02-08T12:27:00 < dongs> HURD IS FOR FUCKING FAGGOTS < but thats truth
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2018-02-08T12:31:03 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: that last paste is fully successful afaict.
2018-02-08T12:31:12 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: everything erased properly, then flashed.
2018-02-08T12:32:40 < Eljotto> thats true
2018-02-08T12:32:55 < Eljotto> but dibaging!
2018-02-08T12:33:37 < c10ud> how would you obtain an isolated 5V with less than 3$?
2018-02-08T12:33:58 < c10ud> I mean, chinese transformers, ok
2018-02-08T12:34:07 < c10ud> maybe that's the only way
2018-02-08T12:34:37 < c10ud> but I only got offers for bulky ones (around 3x3 cm)
2018-02-08T12:34:52 < c10ud> (or 1.81 in freedom units)
2018-02-08T12:35:32 < qyx> ethernet transformer, 2 sot23 mosfets, diode, cap and stm32 timer
2018-02-08T12:35:33 < emeryth> c10ud: chinese Qi charger and receiver
2018-02-08T12:35:35 < zyp> get some isolated DCDC?
2018-02-08T12:35:49 < dongs> < c10ud> how would you obtain an isolated 5V with less than 3$?
2018-02-08T12:35:55 < dongs> i know just the part
2018-02-08T12:35:57 < qyx> ethernets are cheap, 1:1, 350uH
2018-02-08T12:36:05 < qyx> and small
2018-02-08T12:36:12 < dongs> nope
2018-02-08T12:36:15 < c10ud> sorry I forgot to say "from 230VAC"
2018-02-08T12:36:18 < c10ud> my bad
2018-02-08T12:36:21 < qyx> ah
2018-02-08T12:36:23 < dongs> B0505S-1W
2018-02-08T12:36:23 < c10ud> IRM-01 is "the part"
2018-02-08T12:36:26 < dongs> o i c.
2018-02-08T12:36:33 < dongs> then ur fukt, also $3 ha ha
2018-02-08T12:36:41 < zyp> haha
2018-02-08T12:36:53 < qyx> maybe some tinyswitch, but meh
2018-02-08T12:37:02 < dongs> for $3 you can do a sand resistor dropper
2018-02-08T12:37:04 < dongs> and a LDO
2018-02-08T12:37:13 < dongs> or wahtever those super cheapfuck chink shits do
2018-02-08T12:37:13 < qyx> or buck
2018-02-08T12:37:14 < c10ud> chinese trasformer + ldo
2018-02-08T12:37:25 < dongs> that manage to get 12V off AC lines to turn on leds or wahetver
2018-02-08T12:37:32 < c10ud> should be around 1$ + 20c
2018-02-08T12:37:38 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: yes, debugging should just work with the same config.
2018-02-08T12:37:41 < zyp> I've used some cute ACDC, but digikey prices has it expensive as fuck
2018-02-08T12:37:53 < c10ud> yeah, around 3€ for 1k pcs
2018-02-08T12:37:56 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmO1y1ISuak < c10ud
2018-02-08T12:37:57 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, but it doesn't
2018-02-08T12:38:02 < zyp> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/xp-power/ECE05US12/1470-1110-ND/4487491 <- this thing
2018-02-08T12:38:12 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: please show a -d3 log for the case when it doesn't.
2018-02-08T12:38:28 < c10ud> thing is I need isolation because of a 485 output
2018-02-08T12:38:41 < dongs> c10ud: put B0505 on RS485 supply
2018-02-08T12:38:46 < dongs> thats how I do it
2018-02-08T12:38:47 < Ultrasauce> http://www.dx.com/p/283240
2018-02-08T12:38:54 < Ultrasauce> and just pray it doesnt kill you or your device
2018-02-08T12:39:06 < dongs> that totally looks like a samsung charger clone
2018-02-08T12:39:08 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, http://paste.debian.net/1009322/ I end up with <terminated> session
2018-02-08T12:39:28 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: that's non-multiarch gdb
2018-02-08T12:39:37 < zyp> Eljotto, use arm-none-eabi-gdb
2018-02-08T12:39:39 < c10ud> dongs, which transceiver then? not st485
2018-02-08T12:39:43 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: in Debian you need to use gdb-multiarch. Or arm-none-eabi-gdb.
2018-02-08T12:39:51 < dongs> ADM2481
2018-02-08T12:40:02 < dongs> its cheap and isolated
2018-02-08T12:40:14 < dongs> and china has it
2018-02-08T12:40:24 < stvn> ty
2018-02-08T12:40:31 < dongs> production tested and dumb nigger user tested
2018-02-08T12:40:40 < dongs> had some shithead plug 220V AC into dmx outputs, still worked
2018-02-08T12:40:42 < stvn> ah yes dnut
2018-02-08T12:40:43 < c10ud> I need to calculate a bit
2018-02-08T12:40:54 < stvn> dongs that is pretty good
2018-02-08T12:40:55 < Ultrasauce> how does that even happen
2018-02-08T12:40:58 < c10ud> because 3€ i can get the IRM-01-05
2018-02-08T12:41:04 < stvn> i thought DMX outputs were female XLR
2018-02-08T12:41:11 < c10ud> and spend 0.3€ on the st485
2018-02-08T12:41:20 < dongs> stvn: do i really need to find that pic again to paste
2018-02-08T12:41:27 < Ultrasauce> yes
2018-02-08T12:41:30 < stvn> i saw that pic it was great
2018-02-08T12:41:48 < stvn> i had to try it for myself, not actually plugging it into the mains
2018-02-08T12:42:00 < dongs> haha
2018-02-08T12:42:13 < stvn> i need to upgrade to kernel 4.15
2018-02-08T12:42:25 < dongs> Ultrasauce: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ges7YCvuL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg the figure 8 end of that fits perfectly into XLR socket
2018-02-08T12:42:39 < stvn> cause apparently ubuntu cannot believe anyone has 8th series intel processors
2018-02-08T12:42:45 < Ultrasauce> that's pretty good
2018-02-08T12:42:48 < dongs> all my lunix shit is still running on 2.6
2018-02-08T12:42:59 < stvn> the best
2018-02-08T12:43:13 < dongs> because lets face it
2018-02-08T12:43:20 < dongs> there hasnt been any worthwhile changes since 2.6
2018-02-08T12:43:27 < dongs> just mindless API renaming
2018-02-08T12:43:32 < dongs> and backwards compatibility breaking
2018-02-08T12:43:40 < dongs> lunix is still shit
2018-02-08T12:43:43 < dongs> decade later
2018-02-08T12:43:50 < dongs> but kernel is at 4.5.1whatever!!!
2018-02-08T12:46:23 < stvn> fucking hell i feel so dirty
2018-02-08T12:46:28 < stvn> downloading a kernel
2018-02-08T12:46:32 < dongs> haha why
2018-02-08T12:46:35 < dongs> dude, why do you even lunix
2018-02-08T12:46:39 < dongs> run that shit in a VM
2018-02-08T12:46:41 < dongs> where it belongs
2018-02-08T12:47:18 < stvn> just for a bit of a giggle
2018-02-08T12:47:55 < stvn> every couple of years i try some distros to see how broken this shit is
2018-02-08T12:48:10 < stvn> everything worked great on my 8 year old PC (go firgure hey)
2018-02-08T12:48:10 < dongs> i dont even need to try
2018-02-08T12:48:14 < dongs> to know its broken
2018-02-08T12:48:19 < stvn> hahahaha
2018-02-08T12:48:33 < dongs> i mean, things like suspend to ram and suspend to disk
2018-02-08T12:48:36 < dongs> win98: works
2018-02-08T12:48:41 < dongs> 2018 lunix: still doesnt work
2018-02-08T12:48:55 < dongs> and no, adding a "suspend to ram" button in KDE doesn't automatically make it work
2018-02-08T12:50:25 < stvn> lets see if this will melt on reboot
2018-02-08T12:50:29 < qyx> forksforme
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2018-02-08T12:53:09 < stvn_> well i'll be damned, no more 6fps
2018-02-08T12:53:24 < stvn_> and google solved it quicker than #ubuntu
2018-02-08T12:53:37 < dongs> lunix for niggers
2018-02-08T12:53:48 < dongs> when you make lunix so dumb that even a nigger can use it, guess whaT? only niggers will use it
2018-02-08T12:54:17 < stvn_> yeah we can't have niggers
2018-02-08T12:54:21 < stvn_> they just fuck up everything!
2018-02-08T12:54:31 < Eljotto> stvn_, lol @ubuntu community. will be amazed if they actually helped anyone
2018-02-08T12:54:46 < qyx> idk what you are doing
2018-02-08T12:54:52 < Eljotto> you'll be better of asking in ##linux or #debian than in #ubuntu
2018-02-08T12:54:54 < qyx> get a pc, install, leave everything as default
2018-02-08T12:54:58 < qyx> change desktop background
2018-02-08T12:55:01 < qyx> and get work done
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2018-02-08T12:55:19 < qyx> it is like 15 mins
2018-02-08T12:55:32 < qyx> no more tweaking and trying 20 distros
2018-02-08T12:56:39 < qyx> I don$t even know what kernel version do I have
2018-02-08T12:56:46 < qyx> because who cares
2018-02-08T12:57:06 < stvn_> i didn't until 15 mins ago
2018-02-08T12:57:44 < stvn_> which led me to this absolute abortion http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
2018-02-08T12:59:05 < dongs> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ < ahahahha
2018-02-08T12:59:16 < dongs> imagine a grandmother tripped and pulled power plug on her lunix desktop
2018-02-08T12:59:18 < dongs> and reboots it
2018-02-08T12:59:25 < dongs> and sees the 'fsck: please re-run' message
2018-02-08T12:59:28 < stvn_> hahahah\
2018-02-08T12:59:30 < dongs> and has to go to that url to get a new kernel
2018-02-08T12:59:34 < dongs> she'll be like W T F
2018-02-08T12:59:36 < stvn_> lol
2018-02-08T12:59:52 < dongs> and this is why normal people don't use lunix
2018-02-08T13:00:49 < Eljotto> PaulFertser, thanks, that did the trick, it works, I can debug with breakpoints and stuff now
2018-02-08T13:01:06 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: great :)
2018-02-08T13:02:18 < PaulFertser> dongs: btw, it's only ubuntu that asks strange questions on boot when it has problems mounting anything from /etc/fstab , checking etc. Sane distros just boot. And kernel upgrade is not needed for fsck in any case, you know that.
2018-02-08T13:02:43 < dongs> PaulFertser: not even sure why you're bothering to reply to my trolls at this point :p
2018-02-08T13:03:00 < dongs> i mean, there's time when im tellign the truth and then there's obvious trolls
2018-02-08T13:03:16 < PaulFertser> I'm trying to improve the quality of the trolls.
2018-02-08T13:03:35 < qyx> I am going to do some fsck now
2018-02-08T13:03:43 < dongs> hopefully off-irc
2018-02-08T13:03:45 < qyx> to upgrade the kernel
2018-02-08T13:03:52 < Ultrasauce> ay bb u want sum fsck?
2018-02-08T13:04:27 < stvn_> only if dad watches
2018-02-08T13:05:15 < PaulFertser> dongs: seriously, ubuntu is broken in many regards harming usability. Those fsck messages are just nuts.
2018-02-08T13:05:51 < stvn_> what is fsck? fuck-sock?
2018-02-08T13:06:43 < PaulFertser> dongs: it's even funnier for those using russian locale, because it asks whether to skip/fsck/mount/whatever in "russian" but at the moment the console font is not loaded so it's completely unreadable. And if it's your headless server and it just stopped booting it's even more fun.
2018-02-08T13:06:49 < stvn_> also i've wanted to ask a linux channel how to upgrade my colonel
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2018-02-08T13:07:11 < PaulFertser> stukdev_: filesystemcheck
2018-02-08T13:07:30 < PaulFertser> heh, -ebadcompletion, sorry
2018-02-08T13:07:32 < jpa-> debian does the same for me
2018-02-08T13:07:48 < PaulFertser> Stops boot and asks stupid questions?
2018-02-08T13:07:53 < stukdev_> lol
2018-02-08T13:08:05 < PaulFertser> I thought debian doesn't install plymouth and other filth like that by default.
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2018-02-08T13:08:23 < jpa-> though that might have only been because i had corrupted the partition quite bad
2018-02-08T13:08:32 < jpa-> but it wasn't a partition that was essential for booting
2018-02-08T13:08:35 < Eljotto> it has systemd by default, so it already has filth in it
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2018-02-08T13:12:53 < PaulFertser> jpa-: hm, probably it was marked wrong in fstab?
2018-02-08T13:13:06 < jpa-> probably
2018-02-08T13:13:47 < dongs> nothing in lunix is essential
2018-02-08T13:13:53 < dongs> if it was essential, you'd be running windows
2018-02-08T13:16:28 < jpa-> this is open sores:  "< x> great solution! much better than my approach!" "< x> your patch segfaults when running, but that is no big deal"   ;)
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2018-02-08T13:20:18 < dongs> no
2018-02-08T13:20:23 < kakimir> where is laurenceb
2018-02-08T13:20:25 < dongs> this is opensores approach
2018-02-08T13:20:28 < kakimir> I need code assistance
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2018-02-08T13:20:45 < dongs> <x> I dont like X, im gonna fork it and make Y, and fuck you all for trying to contribute anything to X
2018-02-08T13:21:02 < kakimir> opensorez
2018-02-08T13:21:32 < dongs> open forks
2018-02-08T13:22:06 < kakimir> developers can not conclude into same solution to ruin the user interface
2018-02-08T13:22:26 < kakimir> then fork and have different approach ruining user interface
2018-02-08T13:22:37 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-08T13:22:42 < dongs> like when gnome swapped OK/canecl buttons
2018-02-08T13:22:47 < dongs> oh gawd what a fucking shitshow that was
2018-02-08T13:22:59 < kakimir> gnome is totally gay
2018-02-08T13:23:13 < dongs> no problem, because the faggotry migrated into every other shitty software
2018-02-08T13:23:25 < dongs> now you have shit with randonmly positioned ok/cancel buttons thanks to gnomefags
2018-02-08T13:24:52 < zyp> my bank recently updated their phone app and swapped the ok/cancel buttons on the login screen
2018-02-08T13:25:01 < kakimir> I stoped using gnome when I saw shit comming
2018-02-08T13:25:07 < zyp> that's fucking awful
2018-02-08T13:25:18 < dongs> see? lunix at work
2018-02-08T13:25:19 < dongs> right there
2018-02-08T13:25:27 < zyp> already entered pin and cancel a bunch of times
2018-02-08T13:25:30 < dongs> haha
2018-02-08T13:25:48 < kakimir> I don't know why projects like ubuntu keep endorsing gnome
2018-02-08T13:26:44 < kakimir> they seem to do other architectural things at least half decently
2018-02-08T13:27:33 < zyp> dunno, my impression of ubuntu is that it's a "yolo debian"
2018-02-08T13:28:15 < stvn> no ubuntu was created because niggers use technolgoy
2018-02-08T13:28:29 < stvn> *technology
2018-02-08T13:28:32 < kakimir> I bet they preffer winxp
2018-02-08T13:29:41 < dongs> https://z0x.us/p35797.jpg wat
2018-02-08T13:29:58 < kakimir> sfw?
2018-02-08T13:30:01 < karlp> ubunut was "fuck gnome they don't know waht they're doing, we're going to make it all ourselves"
2018-02-08T13:30:02 < dongs> absoultely
2018-02-08T13:30:14 < karlp> then they were like, "shit's hard yo, maybe we should just use gnome, they're at least thinking about it"
2018-02-08T13:30:24 < stvn> .nfo autists
2018-02-08T13:30:47 < jpa-> > doom has a backstory
2018-02-08T13:30:48 < jpa-> never knew
2018-02-08T13:30:51 < stvn> glad i didn't pirate doom II
2018-02-08T13:31:02 < stvn> cause it said i'm going to hell if i did
2018-02-08T13:40:05 < Eljotto> dudes
2018-02-08T13:40:25 < Eljotto> now that my setup for burning and debuging is finally working as expected, I'm gonna need some programming advice
2018-02-08T13:41:26 < Eljotto> I need to send a lot of data between PC program and stm32. Whats the best way to do that?
2018-02-08T13:41:52 < PaulFertser> My first long (21+ hours) print finished. Heh, didn't expect nothing to break in the process.
2018-02-08T13:42:14 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: USB ACM?
2018-02-08T13:42:35 < dongs> 6mbit usart
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2018-02-08T13:43:49 < Eljotto> yeah no usb
2018-02-08T13:44:10 < Eljotto> I'm using CAN and on this chip you can't use can and usb together
2018-02-08T13:44:35 < emeryth> get a better chip
2018-02-08T13:44:52 < stvn> THREADRIPPER
2018-02-08T13:45:24 < PaulFertser> Eljotto: then what dongs say
2018-02-08T13:47:25 < jpa-> for higher speed, parallel bus to FX2 also works
2018-02-08T13:48:36 < zyp> alternatively swap to a chip that can do both CAN and USB at the same time
2018-02-08T13:48:54 < Eljotto> what advantage will I have with USB?
2018-02-08T13:49:36 < Eljotto> will it also be virtual com port, or does usb provide some more advanced access to the chip memory?
2018-02-08T13:49:38 < PaulFertser> No extra hardware and connections, directly to a PC. Faster.
2018-02-08T13:49:41 < zyp> usb is fast, flexible and doesn't need extra hardware
2018-02-08T13:49:52 < Eljotto> extra hardware is not a problem
2018-02-08T13:49:59 < PaulFertser> You can implement any USB protocol you want
2018-02-08T13:50:08 < Eljotto> its just ftdi chip between stm and pc
2018-02-08T13:50:10 < zyp> you could do virtual com port, personally I prefer doing custom protocols
2018-02-08T13:50:54 < Eljotto> didn't knew one can do custom protocols
2018-02-08T13:50:59 < zyp> usb also gives you built-in flow control, and if you use a custom protocol you also get framing
2018-02-08T13:51:37 < Eljotto> hmm since that would require new chip I'll go with serial right now
2018-02-08T13:51:52 < Eljotto> if I would order now it would be at least one week till it arives
2018-02-08T13:52:14 < zyp> and a week to learn how to work with usb code :)
2018-02-08T13:53:29 < Eljotto> yeah no, serial it is
2018-02-08T13:53:50 < Eljotto> If I'll be able to set the communication baudrate up to mb then its fine
2018-02-08T13:54:18 < zyp> as long as your ftdi can handle it
2018-02-08T13:55:34 < Eljotto> theoretically up to 3mb
2018-02-08T13:55:45 < zyp> I'm not sure if f1 can handle 6 Mbaud, but should be able to do 2.25 Mbaud at least
2018-02-08T13:56:00 < Eljotto> 2.25 should be fine
2018-02-08T13:57:01 < Eljotto> the can runs on 125k, so serial need to run faster than that, plus the stm32 will do few other things, so even 1mb could be enough, 2.25 should give some margin
2018-02-08T14:05:55 < kakimir> why VBAT div is pulled down with GPIO pin in olimexino stm32?
2018-02-08T14:06:11 < kakimir> de faq
2018-02-08T14:06:52 < kakimir> and it's like - 3M / 1M anyways.. there is no concideration of power consumption with such resistance
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2018-02-08T14:23:07 < dongs> VBAT? weird.
2018-02-08T14:23:34 < tomeaton17> Interesting digikey made the largest donation to kicad in its history
2018-02-08T14:23:45 < dongs> so sorry to hear that
2018-02-08T14:23:56 < dongs> i think buying kikecad developers altium license would make more sense
2018-02-08T14:24:02 < dongs> they would actaully be able to get more work done
2018-02-08T14:24:10 < dongs> amirite or amirite
2018-02-08T14:24:37 < tomeaton17> Yeah I want to be able to use altium but no way I can get the boss to get a licence as Im the only one who would use it
2018-02-08T14:28:13 < day> tomeaton17: isnt that a good thing? that you only need money for one licence :P
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2018-02-08T14:30:10 < day> anyhow, the quicker we transition to opensource software the faster it gets good and we can trash the shitty commercial softwares
2018-02-08T14:30:17 < dongs> haha
2018-02-08T14:30:19 < dongs> you must be new here
2018-02-08T14:30:23 < day> nah
2018-02-08T14:30:28 < tomeaton17> day: Not really because I am an intern lol and I am gonna leave
2018-02-08T14:30:35 < day> dongs: i got exactly what i was looking for :P
2018-02-08T14:30:39 < dongs> i'm fucking sorry, but "kikecad" isn't going to get anywhere near "good" regardless of how much money is poured into it
2018-02-08T14:30:46 < emeryth> speaking of, looks like lunix finally implemented an old windows feature https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20180208-2.txt
2018-02-08T14:31:07 < tomeaton17> I think eventually it will be decent
2018-02-08T14:31:31 < day> it has some quirks that annoy me, but all it all i like kicad
2018-02-08T14:31:35 < day> all in all*
2018-02-08T14:32:03 < stvn> are you drunk
2018-02-08T14:32:29 < day> the dongseritis seems to have spread :X
2018-02-08T14:33:05 < tomeaton17> Kicad 5 has some interesting features. THe thing I hate about kicad is transferring updates in the schematic to the pcb
2018-02-08T14:33:11 < tomeaton17> I think they are changing that in 5
2018-02-08T14:33:39 < stvn> yes
2018-02-08T14:33:52 < tomeaton17> And I didnt realise digikey has footprints for alot of its parts
2018-02-08T14:34:06 < stvn> i remembering my old kicad projects being nuked in a newer release
2018-02-08T14:34:49 < tomeaton17> yeah I made the mistake of running on nightlies, and it broke it one day
2018-02-08T14:35:32 < stvn> must be the aforementioned dongseritis
2018-02-08T14:35:52 < qyx> interesting, I am running ADC with DMA synced to a free running timer
2018-02-08T14:35:58 < qyx> and it keeps loosing data somehow
2018-02-08T14:36:04 < qyx> in multiples of 128 samples
2018-02-08T14:36:43 < qyx> probably I should check some status flags
2018-02-08T14:39:59 < tomeaton17> And spice integrated into kicad will be nice
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2018-02-08T14:53:02 < jpa-> qyx: checking TCIF at the end of HTIF processing interrupt and checking HTIF at the end of TCIF processing interrupt often detects if your block-processing interrupt takes too long
2018-02-08T14:55:42 < dongs> https://jordaneldredge.com/projects/winamp2-js/ max autism
2018-02-08T14:55:56 < qyx> jpa-: but my block processing interrupt does nothing yet
2018-02-08T14:56:22 < polygon> hello
2018-02-08T14:56:34 < qyx> I just start a timer running at 2MHz, ADC triggered by that timer and DMA
2018-02-08T14:57:07 < qyx> and after a while the timer value % buffer_size differs from the actual position in the buffer reported by the DMA
2018-02-08T14:57:20 < polygon> qyx: driver for soundcard ah ? ;>
2018-02-08T14:57:24 < qyx> (the CNDTR register)
2018-02-08T14:58:01 < qyx> it looks that the dma just skips 128 16bit samples
2018-02-08T14:58:07 < qyx> buffer size is 4096 samples
2018-02-08T14:58:39 < polygon> was that due to initialize adc ?
2018-02-08T14:58:47 < karlp> shush you
2018-02-08T15:00:02 < jpa-> qyx: ah
2018-02-08T15:00:39 < jpa-> qyx: do you have any higher priority dma that could be starving it?
2018-02-08T15:00:47 < qyx> just a single one
2018-02-08T15:01:01 < qyx> also there is nothing which would yeld the value of 128
2018-02-08T15:01:15 < qyx> it comes from nowhere
2018-02-08T15:01:32 < qyx> doesnt flash fetch instructions in such big blocks?
2018-02-08T15:01:38 < stvn> the big big money
2018-02-08T15:01:39 < qyx> going to check status bits
2018-02-08T15:02:14 < jpa-> flash fetches 128 bit blocks IIRC
2018-02-08T15:02:24 < jpa-> but shouldn't affect dma in any way
2018-02-08T15:03:17 < jpa-> adc overrun flag is also worth checking
2018-02-08T15:03:19 < polygon> btw do you verify that you never run out of ram?
2018-02-08T15:03:57 < zyp> polygon is full of useful suggestions today
2018-02-08T15:04:11 < polygon> it was a question
2018-02-08T15:04:11 < dongs> make sure your STM isn't getting bombarded by cosmic rays
2018-02-08T15:04:18 < dongs> trigggering buffer overflow
2018-02-08T15:04:37 < polygon> dongs: good one
2018-02-08T15:04:46 < dongs> hey thats what I was told today
2018-02-08T15:04:49 < dongs> for the reason to enable watchdog
2018-02-08T15:04:51 < dongs> i was like nah
2018-02-08T15:05:17 < polygon> there actually is cosmic radiation
2018-02-08T15:05:26 < dongs> i'll eat my own shit and film it
2018-02-08T15:05:29 < zyp> comic radiation
2018-02-08T15:05:32 < dongs> if y ou can cause even a single STM
2018-02-08T15:05:34 < dongs> to do something
2018-02-08T15:05:36 < dongs> bceause of that
2018-02-08T15:05:49 < dongs> while sitting on your desk, for example
2018-02-08T15:05:50 < polygon> dongs: you are intothat kind of stuff?
2018-02-08T15:05:52 < qyx> it just https://paste.jvnv.net/view/ZpqrA
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2018-02-08T15:06:15 < dongs> bedtime
2018-02-08T15:06:43 < polygon> dongs: i have a smoke detector that has radioactive material in it
2018-02-08T15:06:53 < polygon> it candestroy a ccd if i put it close
2018-02-08T15:12:07 < qyx> no, OVR is not set
2018-02-08T15:13:17 < Thorn> how do you terminate an unused comparator
2018-02-08T15:14:20 < polygon> pull inputs up or down
2018-02-08T15:14:38 < Thorn> both of them?
2018-02-08T15:14:43 < qyx> I would not do that
2018-02-08T15:14:44 < Thorn> is it a stable state?
2018-02-08T15:14:46 < qyx> one up and the other down
2018-02-08T15:14:49 < polygon> +in to out ani in to anyvhere works too
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2018-02-08T15:15:13 < polygon> +in to out and in to anywhere works too
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2018-02-08T15:45:14 < polygon> hmm,  http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/cr2450.pdf   http://data.energizer.com/pdfs/cr2032.pdf   ~240mAh max, rev charge: 1 microampere, good to know
2018-02-08T15:48:03 < polygon> so it takes 27.397260274 years to recharge this, or it only turns to waste heat then?
2018-02-08T15:49:21 < qyx> primary cells are not meant to be charged
2018-02-08T15:50:11 < qyx> the value in the datasheet probably means that you are not allowed to charge and you may accidentally leak at most 1uA into the battery
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2018-02-08T15:58:54 < jpa-> it also specified internal leakage current of 3µA
2018-02-08T15:59:10 < jpa-> so no, it is not gonna get charged that way
2018-02-08T16:07:46 < polygon> qyx: they suggest that charging may create gases and build up internal pressure, but 1%/year self discharge
2018-02-08T16:08:48 < polygon> jpa-: so basically they defined that only the leakage may be canceled by adding a sample hold buffer?
2018-02-08T16:16:27 < qyx> wtf, is 1%/y a problem?
2018-02-08T16:16:40 < qyx> pick a bigger battery then
2018-02-08T16:18:17 < jpa-> or a low-leakage model
2018-02-08T16:20:51 < jadew> I'm doing the customs for a coaxial cable and I was asked what is it used for
2018-02-08T16:21:01 < jadew> I answered that it's going to be used in a product I'm making
2018-02-08T16:21:11 < jadew> the followup question was "what does it do"
2018-02-08T16:21:27 < jadew> I'm locked
2018-02-08T16:21:56 < BrainDamage> just be generic or lie
2018-02-08T16:22:07 < BrainDamage> 'radio'
2018-02-08T16:22:16 < BrainDamage> 'test instrumentation'
2018-02-08T16:22:22 < qyx> just write that it is a remote controller for bombs
2018-02-08T16:22:28 < jadew> heh
2018-02-08T16:22:43 < jadew> yeah... I'm gonna say it passes a signal
2018-02-08T16:24:02 < qyx> is imported coax that cheaper?
2018-02-08T16:24:28 < polygon> this rechargeable version is crap  http://www.batteryspace.com/li-ion-rechargeable-2032-button-cells-lr2032-3-6v-40mah-20d-x-3-2mm-0-14wh-0-012---un-38-3-passed.aspx  would like a lifepo4/a123 version, but nobody is interested, because tinytiny
2018-02-08T16:25:27 < polygon> qyx: probably not, but it should be rechargeable
2018-02-08T16:27:02 < jadew> qyx, yes, if it has all the connectors in place too
2018-02-08T16:27:57 < polygon> qyx: check this http://www.batteryspace.com/lifepo4-rechargeable-14430-cell-3-2v-400-mah-0-4a-rate-1-28wh-4-5aa-size-un38-3-passed-1.aspx
2018-02-08T16:31:24 < qyx> and what with it
2018-02-08T16:31:38 < qyx> Li/MnO2 is not rechargeable
2018-02-08T16:31:41 < qyx> LiFePO4 is
2018-02-08T16:32:59 < qyx> also 14430 is quite retarded size
2018-02-08T16:35:10 < polygon> it is the smallest a ican find of lifepo4 now ;/
2018-02-08T16:36:07 < polygon> qyx: kek  https://www.ev-power.eu/LiFePO4-small-cells/LiFePO4-High-Power-Cell-3-2V-20Ah-Alu-case-CE.html?force_sid=4aimtqecmvbr134ig7s4303qj5
2018-02-08T16:36:17 < jadew> told her it's an extension cable that conducts current...
2018-02-08T16:36:49 < jadew> it felt like the question that my system architecture teacher used to fail me
2018-02-08T16:36:53 < jadew> "what's on a mother board"
2018-02-08T16:37:02 < jadew> I said ICs and slots
2018-02-08T16:37:02 < polygon> chips
2018-02-08T16:37:05 < jadew> exactly
2018-02-08T16:37:16 < jadew> he kept repeating it, I kept answering the same thing
2018-02-08T16:37:24 < jadew> he wanted to hear BIOS, RAM, etc
2018-02-08T16:37:28 < jadew> what a fucking loser
2018-02-08T16:38:05 < polygon> bios is in the chips, and ram modules are in the slots
2018-02-08T16:38:11 < karlp> you know how you get statistics about industry activity and things?
2018-02-08T16:38:21 < karlp> that has to come from somewhere
2018-02-08T16:38:35 < qyx> polygon: I have similar 60Ah
2018-02-08T16:38:44 < qyx> also, I don't get what you are trying to solve
2018-02-08T16:40:19 < polygon> qyx: i am tinking about a substitution for 2 coin cell batteries, but the thing apparently did not burn even at +-4.2V so i might simply use 2 lithium batts
2018-02-08T16:40:26 < polygon> h
2018-02-08T16:41:02 < polygon> qyx: cool, do you use it for RTC backup? :) 60Ah will last for some time at 1-10uA draw
2018-02-08T16:42:15 < polygon> 684 years not including self discharge at 10uA
2018-02-08T16:43:06 < polygon> should the stm32 reflash itself once very 20 years to prevent flash fade?
2018-02-08T16:43:15 < qyx> you are silly
2018-02-08T16:43:24 < qyx> superbia mode
2018-02-08T16:43:41 < polygon> qyx: nah really, mcus's flash data retention is limited
2018-02-08T16:44:53 < BrainDamage> i recommend professional counseling, irc isn't group therapy
2018-02-08T16:45:25 < polygon> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/training/technical/product_training/91/e3/aa/26/e6/69/4f/de/STM32L4_Memory_Flash.pdf/files/STM32L4_Memory_Flash.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.STM32L4_Memory_Flash.pdf
2018-02-08T16:45:26 < englishman> i'll take internal resistance self discharge rates for $200 alex
2018-02-08T16:48:13 < polygon> STM suggests that flash data retention after 1k wites below 85°C is at least 30 years, that is a... fair deal?
2018-02-08T16:50:31 < polygon> BrainDamage: you don't need to create problems, i don't have any
2018-02-08T16:56:28 < polygon> qyx: here you go' a standard size:  https://www.batteryjunction.com/tenergy-30263-rcr123a-400.html
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2018-02-08T16:58:36 < qyx> if you want long term backup, go for LiSOCl2
2018-02-08T16:58:46 < qyx> saft LS14250 for example
2018-02-08T16:58:48 < qyx> or xeno
2018-02-08T17:10:36 < qyx> my F3 heats considerably
2018-02-08T17:10:56 < qyx> 4 ADC running together at 2msps with DMA
2018-02-08T17:11:08 < qyx> + 4 timers at 60MHz
2018-02-08T17:11:30 < qyx> I mean it is warm on touch
2018-02-08T17:11:44 < karlp> it has a temperature sensor, what' sit say?
2018-02-08T17:11:55 < qyx> idk, I can't read it
2018-02-08T17:12:00 < qyx> with injected maybe
2018-02-08T17:12:07 < karlp> I use injected for that
2018-02-08T17:12:21 < karlp> remember to inject both tempsensor and iddref
2018-02-08T17:12:43 < qyx> I will see if it doesn't fucks up the timing
2018-02-08T17:12:46 < qyx> -s
2018-02-08T17:12:52 < qyx> I am about to go to 5msps
2018-02-08T17:13:05 < qyx> but it seems I need stronger driving
2018-02-08T17:13:21 < qyx> because 1dot5 sampling time causes weird artifacts
2018-02-08T17:14:07 < karlp> yeah, I had supper shitty results using the short sampling speeds
2018-02-08T17:14:51 < qyx> I used quite strong opamp, there is also a rc buffer near the pin itself
2018-02-08T17:16:06 < qyx> interesting that running 1 vs 4 ADCs doesn't cause significant difference in the 128 bytes missing issue
2018-02-08T17:16:16 < qyx> maybe some timing race condition
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2018-02-08T17:41:06 < qyx> it desyncs after 71 seconds which seems to be exactly 2^32/60MHz
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2018-02-08T18:00:24 < polygon> qyx: hopefully i will be able to charge my things once in a few days or weeks :)
2018-02-08T18:01:06 < polygon> qyx: though i charged my multimeter last year for example, can't remember when, i might top it off sometime
2018-02-08T18:02:42 < polygon> i have connected 2x Li-ion 18650 cells in series instead of the 9V battery, it lasted only like a month with heavy use...
2018-02-08T18:15:01 < polygon> http://www.batteryuniversity.com/_img/content/DST-cycles-web2.jpg  i think his argument about the "cycle life" is invalid because the total charge transferred with more cycles at less charge voltage is not the same.   http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
2018-02-08T18:16:17 < polygon> cycling within 50% SOC +- DBL_EPSILON % will result in most cycles.
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2018-02-08T19:46:51 < polygon> Behold' the :) CONFIDENTIAL linear led driver  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKd2L9Exw0M
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2018-02-08T20:04:05 < polygon> i have created unusual traffic again according to google :> gugle wanted to know if i am human
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2018-02-08T20:29:56 < polygon> sup kakimir
2018-02-08T20:38:00 < kakimir> supsup
2018-02-08T20:38:02 < kakimir> busi
2018-02-08T20:38:04 < kakimir> bbl
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2018-02-08T20:45:06 < Rob235> Back at the library. the library director called me this morning saying there is nothing they can do about the temperature in the library.  it is noticeably warmer than yesterday at least
2018-02-08T20:49:29 < Tectu> library
2018-02-08T20:49:30 < Tectu> 2018
2018-02-08T20:49:35 < Tectu> hipster much
2018-02-08T20:50:16 < zyp> what's wrong with libraries?
2018-02-08T20:50:38 < Tectu> nothing, just wanted to write something here today
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2018-02-08T20:51:21 < zyp> first step to blaxter
2018-02-08T20:51:47 < Tectu> c'mon... that wasn't nice :p
2018-02-08T20:51:52 < Tectu> true though...
2018-02-08T20:52:31 < tkerby> Any advice on what to look for where code doesn't appear to start unless its connected to the debugger (sagger embedded studio)?
2018-02-08T20:54:08 < Steffanx> using semihosting?
2018-02-08T20:55:58 < tkerby> doesn't appear to be. The code is from https://github.com/RAKWireless/RAK811_BreakBoard using Segger's Keil import then switching out the startup scripts which were in keil rather than gcc assembler
2018-02-08T20:58:08 < tkerby> Segger seems to have switched out the serial port printf to rtt but I reckon its also done something weird with breakpoints
2018-02-08T21:05:28 < tkerby> Sets the linker up as ld" -X -eReset_Handler --omagic -defsym=__vfprintf=__vfprintf_short_float_long -defsym=__vfscanf=__vfscanf_int --fatal-warnings -EL --gc-sections "-T/Users/tkerby/Dropbox (Personal)/segger/RAK811_BreakBoard-master-3/Keil/classA/Output/classA RAK811_breakboard/Obj/classA.ld" -Map Output/RAK811_breakboard/Exe/classA.map -u_vectors -o Output/RAK811_breakboard/Exe/classA.elf --emit-relocs
2018-02-08T21:05:28 < tkerby> "@/Users/tkerby/Dropbox (Personal)/segger/RAK811_BreakBoard-master-3/Keil/classA/Output/classA RAK811_breakboard/Obj/classA.ind"
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2018-02-08T21:20:08 < Rob235> I need to stop IRCing
2018-02-08T21:21:54 < zyp> why?
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2018-02-08T21:22:44 < zyp> tkerby, I've had that happening on a board that didn't have good enough pullup on reset
2018-02-08T21:23:08 < zyp> with debugger connected, debugger helped pulling it up, without debugger it registered as low
2018-02-08T21:23:20 < zyp> this was nxp, not stm32 though
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2018-02-08T21:25:54 < Rob235> Either IRC attracts annoying horrible people or I just don't like people
2018-02-08T21:26:02 < Rob235> :)
2018-02-08T21:29:20 < Rob235> anytime I mention I'm at the library printing I get at least one response about being a hipster, or a weirdo or something negative. Theres tons of people that have to replace at least 3 words per sentence with some play on words to make it negative. everyone just seems miserable and enjoys making other people miserable. I just come to shoot the shit, I've lost any desire to try and get help from people here
2018-02-08T21:30:15 < Tectu> Rob235, I' m sorry about that - I certainly didn't mean to offend you. that was 100% non-serious "fun" from my side. I have neither a problem with you nor the library nor the fact that you're visiting a library.
2018-02-08T21:30:54 < Rob235> I know, I really didnt mind the comment, its just the idea that those comments are the response of everyone.  its the negative idea behind everything that bothers me
2018-02-08T21:31:22 < upgrdman> Rob235, we hate on everyone in here
2018-02-08T21:31:22 < Rob235> its always, why would you do something this way, you are doing it wrong, blah blah
2018-02-08T21:31:52 < Tectu> if that helps you: it makes me happy to be counted as "everyone else" at least once in a while
2018-02-08T21:31:52 < Rob235> no one is ever excited about a project or anything
2018-02-08T21:31:54 < upgrdman> stm32 is the opposite of a safe space. we're openly hostile to everyone.
2018-02-08T21:32:25 < Tectu> let me give you something to be hostile about: https://pasteboard.co/H6IUyHv.jpg
2018-02-08T21:32:29 < Rob235> yea I know, I mostly accept it, I just question myself every once in a while for why I continue to come on IRC, I doubt I'll stop though
2018-02-08T21:32:56 < Rob235> but I might as well join the bitchfest once in a while
2018-02-08T21:33:03 < upgrdman> Tectu, lol. fucked your rj45 footprint?
2018-02-08T21:33:14 < tkerby> zyp: does work with a bin file from the manufacturer so I’d probably rule that out. Suspect it’s something weird with breakpoints or the startup script
2018-02-08T21:33:18 < Tectu> upgrdman, the footprint is fine - the pin assignment isn't :p
2018-02-08T21:33:38 < upgrdman> i have also never made a mistake like that
2018-02-08T21:33:39 < BrainDamage> why the fuck does that website use js to display a pic
2018-02-08T21:33:42 < Tectu> upgrdman, I was tempted to reply "nah, I just needed the extra height" though
2018-02-08T21:34:06 < tkerby> SES seems to like a breakpoint at main with the debugger connected - wonder if it’s also doing something strange for stand alone
2018-02-08T21:34:18 < BrainDamage> you could at least twist the data pairs properly
2018-02-08T21:34:49 < Rob235> BrainDamage: thank you for being a perfect example
2018-02-08T21:34:55 < jpa-> 100M ethernet doesn't even need twisting
2018-02-08T21:35:13 < Rob235> insulting two people back to back
2018-02-08T21:35:30 < Rob235> without saying anything else
2018-02-08T21:35:32 < Tectu> I'll just twist the bits
2018-02-08T21:35:39 < BrainDamage> actually I've done it intentionally since your comment
2018-02-08T21:35:54 < Tectu> I feel highly insulted by that, BrainDamage
2018-02-08T21:35:57 < Rob235> doubtful but sure, I dont really care
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2018-02-08T21:45:22 < Rickta59> does your soldering job work Tectu ?
2018-02-08T21:45:57 < Tectu> Rickta59, well I get link, but something in the FW isn't quite right yet
2018-02-08T21:46:31 < Rickta59> i'm always amazed at how much you can ignore the rules and still get things to work
2018-02-08T21:47:18 < Tectu> better explain that to Rob235
2018-02-08T21:49:36 < Steffanx> Rob235, maybe the issue is that you do a semi-random blog and people comment on that semi-funny.
2018-02-08T21:49:46 < Steffanx> better say semi- as often as you can.
2018-02-08T21:50:12 < Tectu> I feel that Steffanx is semi-right about this
2018-02-08T21:52:17 < Thorn> zyp: I'm designing a board with lpc824 and looking at a corresponding lpcxpresso schematics, they have pullups for SWD but not for reset
2018-02-08T21:52:26 < Thorn> where is the logic in this
2018-02-08T21:52:34 < zyp> dunno
2018-02-08T21:52:40 < zyp> mine was lpc4357
2018-02-08T21:52:47 < Tectu> Thorn, are they DNP?
2018-02-08T21:52:55 < Thorn> nope
2018-02-08T21:55:25 < Rob235> hah yea maybe, well im leaving the library, their printer is useless
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2018-02-08T21:56:08 < BrainDamage> does a reprap become convenient if you have the parts printed for free by someone else?
2018-02-08T21:56:29 < BrainDamage> or is it better to not just fuck around and buy a premade one
2018-02-08T21:56:52 < Steffanx> idk sir.
2018-02-08T21:57:04 < Tectu> better buy something decent right off the first tiem
2018-02-08T21:57:23 < Steffanx> Please dont say: velleman zomething8000
2018-02-08T21:57:25 < Steffanx> 8400*
2018-02-08T21:58:03 < zyp> Steffanx, are they bad?
2018-02-08T21:59:11 < Tectu> Steffanx, I said decent, not cheap
2018-02-08T21:59:25 < Steffanx> nah, i dont know. Never used it. It's what Tectu adviced me to get and i ignored that advice
2018-02-08T21:59:26 < Tectu> velleman K8400 has some awesome price/value ration
2018-02-08T21:59:43 < Steffanx> Ok i didnt ignore it, but i didnt follow the advice either
2018-02-08T21:59:54 < zyp> oh
2018-02-08T22:00:10 < zyp> they are selling that in local stores here, so I assume it's overpriced :p
2018-02-08T22:00:17 < Steffanx> its like 500 euro.
2018-02-08T22:00:25 < Steffanx> here
2018-02-08T22:00:35 < BrainDamage> here velleman has a bad rep
2018-02-08T22:00:38 < Tectu> here it was free
2018-02-08T22:00:40 < BrainDamage> as in most of the stuff is crap
2018-02-08T22:00:54 < Steffanx> Yes, that's one reason why i didnt go for it BrainDamage.
2018-02-08T22:01:01 < Steffanx> Velleman has a terrible reputation
2018-02-08T22:01:03 < Tectu> BrainDamage, true. I got all of their 3d printers to test at some point and the 3d printers were all magnitudes better than their other crap
2018-02-08T22:01:23 < zyp> hmm, looks like they've stopped selling it, just have spare parts now
2018-02-08T22:01:26 < Tectu> anyway - I never said that their printers are the best or anything. just great value for the price
2018-02-08T22:01:55 < Steffanx> one nice hting about them is their easy dual extruder support
2018-02-08T22:02:56 < Steffanx> but for hobby bobbying the Anet A-something is totally hot nowadays.
2018-02-08T22:03:09 < Steffanx> i believe mr PaulFertser is fairly happy with it
2018-02-08T22:03:24 < zyp> A8
2018-02-08T22:03:38 < Steffanx> I never know if it's the A6 or A8
2018-02-08T22:04:26 < BrainDamage> wow that's cheap
2018-02-08T22:04:45 < Steffanx> You just print your own modifications with it to make it even better.
2018-02-08T22:04:50 < zyp> yes, it also has a reputation for catching fire :p
2018-02-08T22:05:07 < BrainDamage> that's only a feature in my opinion
2018-02-08T22:05:11 < Steffanx> nah, you just need to resolder the heatbet iirc.
2018-02-08T22:05:16 < Steffanx> d
2018-02-08T22:06:00 < BrainDamage> i have the horrible compulsion to leave a self destruct functionality in my projects if the hardware allows
2018-02-08T22:06:12 < BrainDamage> eg adjusting a dcdc to overvoltage, etc
2018-02-08T22:06:27 < BrainDamage> ofc the function call is empty, so you cannot accidentally trigger it
2018-02-08T22:06:36 < Steffanx> So it's an excellent product for you. And it's just 120-150 euro
2018-02-08T22:07:04 < zyp> I've got a PCB on my desk here with 230V in, that should work nicely for self destruction :)
2018-02-08T22:07:53 < Steffanx> Self destruction as in .. zyp destruction or just the project?
2018-02-08T22:08:15 < zyp> hehe, I'm just kidding
2018-02-08T22:08:24 < zyp> it's properly isolated
2018-02-08T22:08:59 < zyp> powered it up for the first time yesterday, I made sure to check with a multimeter before I touched anything on the isolated side :p
2018-02-08T22:09:20 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/CjtC8.png <- this shit
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2018-02-08T22:11:42 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/8wRL0.jpg
2018-02-08T22:13:04 < jadew> better invest in an isolation transformer
2018-02-08T22:13:16 < jadew> it's on my to buy list, but didn't get to it yet
2018-02-08T22:13:41 < zyp> nah, isolation on the board seems to be working nicely
2018-02-08T22:14:06 < kakimir> snus
2018-02-08T22:14:11 < jadew> still, it's good for safety
2018-02-08T22:14:25 < zyp> I kinda wish I had a three-phase power outlet in my office though :p
2018-02-08T22:14:42 < zyp> would make it easier to test this
2018-02-08T22:15:21 < PaulFertser> zyp: catching fire with current anet a8 versions is unlikely I'd say. The connectors are sane now.
2018-02-08T22:15:28 < zyp> nice
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2018-02-08T22:19:17 < Steffanx> sport what?
2018-02-08T22:19:29 < PaulFertser> zyp: the problem with bed connector is not the connector itself but lack of part that doesn't let the wires move all the time. But such a part is trivial to print.
2018-02-08T22:21:41 < PaulFertser> And yes, I've seen pics of melted connectors on the main board but current version has other, much better terminals there.
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2018-02-08T22:42:03 < Ecco> Tectu: You could handcraft your own RJ45 cable
2018-02-08T22:42:18 < Ecco> I mean, until you fix the pcb of course
2018-02-08T22:42:26 < Ecco> but making a custom RJ45 cable is super easy
2018-02-08T22:42:32 < zyp> no, it's a magjack
2018-02-08T22:42:47 < Ecco> and it would allow you to solder the connector to the PCB which would a lot more robust, obviously
2018-02-08T22:42:50 < zyp> so the connector is not straight through
2018-02-08T22:43:01 < Ecco> wat?
2018-02-08T22:43:33 < Ecco> you mean the connector is not just a connector?
2018-02-08T22:43:38 < zyp> yes
2018-02-08T22:43:43 < Ecco> what does it do?
2018-02-08T22:43:45 < zyp> it has integrated pulse transformers
2018-02-08T22:44:17 < zyp> it's pretty common nowadays, saves having to have separate pulse transformers between the connector and the PHY
2018-02-08T22:44:29 < Ecco> oh, ok
2018-02-08T22:44:55 < Ecco> the pictur says "Abracon" though
2018-02-08T22:45:16 < zyp> http://abracon.com/Magnetics/lan/ARJ11B.pdf
2018-02-08T22:45:59 < Ecco> indeed
2018-02-08T22:46:15 < zyp> note how there's like 50 different variants with varying pinouts
2018-02-08T22:46:26 < Ecco> also that probably wouldn't fix the potential problem with the LED pins
2018-02-08T22:46:32 < zyp> Tectu has a pcb designed for one of the variants and a connector of a different variant :p
2018-02-08T22:46:50 < Ecco> oh, ok :) So getting the right variant might indeed be the easiest fix :)
2018-02-08T22:47:16 < Ecco> I had no clue RJ45 connectors could somehow do something more than just being connectors
2018-02-08T22:47:19 < Ecco> TIL :)
2018-02-08T22:47:40 < zyp> like I said, it's pretty common
2018-02-08T22:48:21 < Ecco> The other question is: why bother with wired?
2018-02-08T22:48:44 < Ecco> Sure, for a desktop PC if you're an uber geek, I can see the upside
2018-02-08T22:49:09 < Ecco> but for whatever connected gadget you can build on top of an F407, I would assume WiFi to be a better alternative pretty much all the time
2018-02-08T22:49:13 < BrainDamage> a cable is thousand times more reliable
2018-02-08T22:49:18 < Ecco> yes
2018-02-08T22:49:24 < Ecco> but 10 thousand times less convenient
2018-02-08T22:49:34 < zyp> consider the regulatory concerns
2018-02-08T22:49:44 < Ecco> more reliable, virtually no jitter, much higher bandwidth, etc…
2018-02-08T22:50:09 < Ecco> I know, and that's the reason you'd have to pry my ethernet cable from my cold dead body :)
2018-02-08T22:50:15 < zyp> a device containing a wifi radio is a lot more work to EMC qualify than one without
2018-02-08T22:50:22 < Ecco> indeed
2018-02-08T22:50:57 < MrMobius> why would you have a cable inside you when you die?
2018-02-08T22:50:58 < Ecco> ok, I can understand the "it's easier to build, so if the target usage can tolerate wired, just use this"
2018-02-08T22:51:25 < Ecco> MrMobius: Not inside me. But I wouldn't let go of it until I'd die :)
2018-02-08T22:53:50 < zyp> there's also a simplicity to just plugging in a cable and have it work
2018-02-08T22:53:59 < zyp> wifi needs pairing and shit
2018-02-08T22:54:59 < Ecco> yeah, but that's pretty much a solved problem anyway, most smartphone will pair your wifi gadget to the base station in a blink
2018-02-08T22:55:16 < polygon> optical datacom works without cable btw
2018-02-08T22:55:19 < Ecco> that being said, I agree wired is globally easier to deal with when deveoping
2018-02-08T22:55:41 < Ecco> so depending on the use case / audience I udnerstand how it can make sense :)
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2018-02-09T01:16:34 < upgrdman> oh wow
2018-02-09T01:16:36 < upgrdman> "Acquired by ST in December 2017, Atollic TrueStudio IDE can now be downloaded by all STM32 users free of charge."
2018-02-09T01:16:44 < upgrdman> nice
2018-02-09T01:17:26 < englishman> dude
2018-02-09T01:17:41 < englishman> you gotta stop posting to irc
2018-02-09T01:17:48 < englishman> and start reading some of the chats that happen here
2018-02-09T01:18:02 < upgrdman> well fuck you too
2018-02-09T01:18:13 < Tectu> shut up guys, I can't handle this hostility
2018-02-09T01:18:17 < upgrdman> lol
2018-02-09T01:18:21 < Tectu> everything is so sad
2018-02-09T01:18:28 < upgrdman> Tectu235
2018-02-09T01:18:33 < upgrdman> he's rubbing off on you, huh
2018-02-09T01:18:45 < Tectu> yes, it's toxic
2018-02-09T01:18:54 < englishman> go shoot up in the library bathroom
2018-02-09T01:19:05 < upgrdman> and vape
2018-02-09T01:22:42 < polygon> hello
2018-02-09T01:22:50 < polygon> what is the situation here?
2018-02-09T01:23:08 < upgrdman> hi
2018-02-09T01:23:14 < upgrdman> situation is good
2018-02-09T01:23:17 < upgrdman> how are you
2018-02-09T01:23:21 < polygon> englishman: nah the trend is to sing opera in bathrooms now
2018-02-09T01:23:23 < Tectu> please tell us more about your life
2018-02-09T01:23:36 < polygon> englishman: only school shootings
2018-02-09T01:26:29 < polygon> [20:33] <jpa-> 100M ethernet doesn't even need twisting - nor does 6Gbps sata ;) but it is shielded and paired...
2018-02-09T01:26:52 < Tectu> and the scrollbacking begins...
2018-02-09T01:27:33 < polygon> [20:24] <Rob235> Either IRC attracts annoying horrible people or I just don't like people - probably has something to do with having no real life?
2018-02-09T01:28:19 < Tectu> please don't be so negative, polygon
2018-02-09T01:30:33 < polygon> [21:07] <zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/CjtC8.png <- this shit - lol is that a groundplane fill with 10 mil clearance at primary 230V side?
2018-02-09T01:31:43 < upgrdman> "10 mil clearance at primary 230V side"
2018-02-09T01:31:45 < upgrdman> YOLO
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2018-02-09T01:34:08 < polygon> <Tectu> please don't be so negative, polygon - i was positive ;/
2018-02-09T01:36:31 < polygon> [00:30] <upgrdman> YOLO - surface creep :)
2018-02-09T01:37:25 < polygon> dew on board, mosquitos laying eggs between high voltage lines
2018-02-09T01:37:53 < Tectu> where are you from, polygon?
2018-02-09T01:38:17 < polygon> i have no idea, gugle just asked if i am even human
2018-02-09T01:38:40 < Tectu> are you?
2018-02-09T01:38:59 < polygon> i somewhat look like one
2018-02-09T01:39:53 < Tectu> iew
2018-02-09T01:41:26 < Laurenceb_> sup kakimir
2018-02-09T01:41:36 < Laurenceb_> I'm cooking atm but might be able to help...
2018-02-09T01:41:38 < upgrdman> iirc atollic used to support non-stm chips?
2018-02-09T01:41:45 < upgrdman> so did stm kill that or did i rememeber wrong
2018-02-09T01:41:56 < Laurenceb_> lul atollic users btfo
2018-02-09T01:42:05 < Laurenceb_> iirc I used it for avr at one point...
2018-02-09T01:42:07 < upgrdman> ?
2018-02-09T01:42:43 < polygon> btw i fixed an electric bicycle charger that had rain in it while operating, and the board had ~5mm clearance at single ended flyback part, fr4 got a little crispy, black, needed some cleanup before changing parts
2018-02-09T01:42:51 < upgrdman> anyone know if atollic can be used as eclipse plugins, or do you have to use the elipse ide instead of merging it into a normal eclipse
2018-02-09T01:43:09 < polygon> Laurenceb_: what's cookin' ?
2018-02-09T01:43:44 < Laurenceb_> beef
2018-02-09T01:43:48 < Laurenceb_> and onions
2018-02-09T01:43:54 < Tectu> the party just got real
2018-02-09T01:43:57 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-09T01:44:09 < Tectu> upgrdman, atollic is eclipse
2018-02-09T01:44:20 < polygon> Laurenceb_: did you put it in your reflow oven or you have a separate one?
2018-02-09T01:44:25 < upgrdman> Tectu, yes i know
2018-02-09T01:44:26 < upgrdman> but
2018-02-09T01:44:39 < upgrdman> if i dont want to use their bundle, and want to merge it into an existing eclipse
2018-02-09T01:44:44 < Laurenceb_> heh no I dont live in an assembly factory
2018-02-09T01:44:45 < upgrdman> is that possible
2018-02-09T01:44:57 < Laurenceb_> kakimir wanted some help with his datalogger
2018-02-09T01:45:03 < Laurenceb_> but now he has vanished...
2018-02-09T01:45:26 < Tectu> upgrdman, so you hate your life too?
2018-02-09T01:45:52 < upgrdman> lol no
2018-02-09T01:45:55 < Laurenceb_> bbl tiem to eat
2018-02-09T01:46:01 < upgrdman> but i use eclipse for AllTheThings
2018-02-09T01:46:12 < upgrdman> would perfer not to have like 4 different eclipses open
2018-02-09T01:46:20 < upgrdman> instead use one for mcu + pc + fpga, etc.
2018-02-09T01:46:32 < Tectu> you fpga in eclipse?
2018-02-09T01:46:44 < upgrdman> i used to, but not recently
2018-02-09T01:46:54 < upgrdman> plugin called sv or something like that
2018-02-09T01:47:02 < upgrdman> not awesome, but usable
2018-02-09T01:47:21 < upgrdman> beats the shit out of fpga ide's which cant even refactor variable names
2018-02-09T01:48:22 < polygon> 4 GB of free hard disk space  - lol?
2018-02-09T01:48:26 < upgrdman> Tectu, https://sites.google.com/site/svedvkit/
2018-02-09T01:48:39 < polygon> https://atollic.com/resources/download/linux/
2018-02-09T01:48:48 < polygon> what is all the hype about this?
2018-02-09T01:48:51 < upgrdman> or and it still actively developed. cool. "SVEditor 2.0.9 Released (1/7/18)"
2018-02-09T01:51:07 < polygon> who uses geany?
2018-02-09T01:51:14 < Tectu> I did
2018-02-09T01:51:15 < upgrdman> i did, a long time ago
2018-02-09T01:51:15 < Tectu> years ago
2018-02-09T01:51:18 < Tectu> when I had no real stuff to do
2018-02-09T01:51:55 < polygon> well, better than gedit
2018-02-09T01:52:20 < BrainDamage> "smallpox is better than ebola"
2018-02-09T01:52:27 < Tectu> lol
2018-02-09T01:52:58 < upgrdman> eclipse has spoiled me. favorite features: ctrl-r, alt-shift-a, and ctrl-space. <3
2018-02-09T01:53:06 < Tectu> fuck eclipse
2018-02-09T01:53:47 < upgrdman> oh ya, you were developing AnusPad or something like that?
2018-02-09T01:53:51 < upgrdman> how did that go?
2018-02-09T01:54:23 < Tectu> yes exactly
2018-02-09T01:54:27 < Tectu> going very well. using it every day
2018-02-09T01:54:31 < upgrdman> nice
2018-02-09T01:54:41 < polygon> BrainDamage: what are you creating?
2018-02-09T01:54:45 < Tectu> still crappy tool but better than anything I used before. there are about two dozen people that use it every day now
2018-02-09T01:54:51 < Tectu> anuspad is bestpad
2018-02-09T01:55:04 < Tectu> also, stop being so hostile towards my work, okay? it's way too negative.
2018-02-09T01:55:17 < upgrdman> mhmm :)
2018-02-09T01:56:03 < polygon> Tectu: there is a balance, voltage is a potential difference too, the electrons move from one place to another
2018-02-09T01:56:18 < Tectu> aaaand we got another stoner
2018-02-09T01:58:16 < BrainDamage> chill out with some saucedrama https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
2018-02-09T02:15:06 < Laurenceb_> 2morrow I have a wurk meeting
2018-02-09T02:15:16 < Laurenceb_> 2 discuss G.U.I. requirements...
2018-02-09T02:15:20 < Laurenceb_> this will be fun
2018-02-09T02:16:07 < Laurenceb_> one manager wants to use databases for all the things
2018-02-09T02:16:15 < Laurenceb_> another doesnt want and databases at all
2018-02-09T02:17:42 < Laurenceb_> I should hand out swords or pistols
2018-02-09T02:18:19 < Laurenceb_> >not tracking ip addresses using visual basic
2018-02-09T02:21:15 < dongs> polygon: me too
2018-02-09T02:25:13 < upgrdman> dongs uses geany??
2018-02-09T02:27:35 < Laurenceb_> wew https://twitter.com/RussianEmbassy/status/961564388711976962
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2018-02-09T03:53:58 < Cracki> 72p is less than 1 full unit of currency?
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2018-02-09T04:17:15 < upgrdman> how to gym   https://i.imgur.com/f1EHReb.gifv
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2018-02-09T04:30:37 < Rob235> the guy on the receiving end of that blowjob is lucky
2018-02-09T04:44:49 < Rob235> what is this called? https://mysteryoftheinquity.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/palace-octagon-close.jpg?w=590
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2018-02-09T04:45:04 < Rob235> the dome multi arch type thing
2018-02-09T04:46:09 < Rob235> oh is it just a dome?
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2018-02-09T05:44:59 < MrMobius> conspiracy theory?
2018-02-09T05:56:16 < R0b0t1> Anyone ok with HID stuff? I'm doing something on Linux, but figured this may be a good place to ask
2018-02-09T05:56:20 < R0b0t1> https://bpaste.net/show/20f68176ecd4
2018-02-09T05:56:25 < R0b0t1> That code should type the letter "a"
2018-02-09T05:56:52 < R0b0t1> Nothing happens; if you add a getc to pause execution, lsusb does not list the fake device.
2018-02-09T05:57:04 < R0b0t1> Mainly I am wondering if I got the descriptor right
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2018-02-09T06:19:59 < Thorn> R0b0t1: have you tried http://www.usb.org/developers/hidpage#HID%20Descriptor%20Tool ?
2018-02-09T06:21:07 < R0b0t1> Is it an .exe?
2018-02-09T06:22:38 < Thorn> yeah, windows exe
2018-02-09T06:28:55 < R0b0t1> https://github.com/DIGImend/hidrd
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2018-02-09T08:25:13 < R0b0t1> I still can't get it to work
2018-02-09T08:25:15 < R0b0t1> Hmm
2018-02-09T08:27:30 < R0b0t1> https://bpaste.net/show/65a1501ab699
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2018-02-09T09:48:56 < zyp> polygon, 10 mil clearance where?
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2018-02-09T09:50:49 < zyp> only the left side of the line section has those voltages, the circuit on the right side does not have voltages >5V or so
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2018-02-09T09:58:36 < jpa-> i guess you trust that N/L will not get mixed up? (assuming the blue fill is connected to N)
2018-02-09T09:59:56 < zyp> no, in single phase systems that is fine
2018-02-09T10:00:20 < zyp> and yes, it's connected to N
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2018-02-09T10:01:23 < zyp> this thing is designed to be able to work in both single phase, three phase delta and three phase wye systems
2018-02-09T10:01:48 < zyp> N only needs to be an actual neutral in wye systems
2018-02-09T10:02:34 < zyp> in delta systems, there's no neutral, only three phase conductors, and one of them has to be tied to N instead of the respective L terminal
2018-02-09T10:02:54 < jpa-> well if the blue fill is potentially live, then it has quite small clearance to the input lines on the right side
2018-02-09T10:03:00 < zyp> and in single phase systems, it doesn't matter if L and N is swapped
2018-02-09T10:04:05 < zyp> jpa-, that's fine
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2018-02-09T10:05:44 < jpa-> zyp: input lines float?
2018-02-09T10:06:20 < zyp> yes, the six-terminal blocks are three pair of connections for current transformers
2018-02-09T10:06:29 < jpa-> ah
2018-02-09T10:06:36 < zyp> the N net is the 0V reference for the entire power metering circuit, so the voltages on the CT terminals will only deviate from it by a few volts
2018-02-09T10:06:42 < zyp> no matter what level the N net itself is at
2018-02-09T10:08:40 < zyp> the ground plane on the top half will be tied to PE, which means that there will be a nominal difference of either 0V, 135V or 230V between the two ground planes
2018-02-09T10:08:47 < zyp> the circuit should work in either case
2018-02-09T10:12:27 < jpa-> makes sense
2018-02-09T10:13:24 < zyp> though, even when there's a nominal difference of 0V between N and PE, you're required to keep them separated
2018-02-09T10:28:39 < kakimir> recommend smaller same performace replacement for sot23
2018-02-09T10:28:41 < kakimir> fets
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2018-02-09T10:29:01 < kakimir> good availibility
2018-02-09T10:29:43 < kakimir> no brah
2018-02-09T10:30:03 < kakimir> 2n7002 f0r life
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2018-02-09T10:31:42 < kakimir> I try not to pump
2018-02-09T10:35:14 < Steffanx> Stop your Steffan obsession, crt -_-
2018-02-09T10:54:29 < qyx> kakimir: see SiaXXXX, those are 2x2mm
2018-02-09T10:54:41 < qyx> better thermal performance than sot23
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2018-02-09T11:35:08 < kakimir> I need high current 18650 holders
2018-02-09T11:35:10 < kakimir> recommds?
2018-02-09T11:35:17 < kakimir> not those crappy ones
2018-02-09T11:35:31 < kakimir> I mean 10Amp rated stuff
2018-02-09T11:46:40 < kakimir> qyx, can'f find anything with that
2018-02-09T11:46:45 < kakimir> could you give some model name
2018-02-09T11:47:03 < kakimir> I find artist SIA only
2018-02-09T11:51:56 < qyx> http://sk.farnell.com/vishay/sia444djt-t1-ge3/mosfet-n-ch-diode-30v-12a-sc70/dp/1858980
2018-02-09T12:03:18 < kakimir> brainfart.. I was looking for PNP but thinking of fets
2018-02-09T12:03:22 < kakimir> fet obsession
2018-02-09T12:07:12 < qyx> you were laurenceb'd
2018-02-09T12:17:05 < jadew> dhl is getting on my nerves
2018-02-09T12:17:28 < jadew> they require the proof of payment (for the customs fees) WITH THE BANK SIGNATURE AND STAMP
2018-02-09T12:17:40 < jadew> so they want me to go to the bank and pay from there
2018-02-09T12:18:20 < jadew> again, this is only to make it inconvenient to pay those taxes yourself, so they get their extra $30
2018-02-09T12:18:26 < jadew> fucking assholes
2018-02-09T12:18:36 < jadew> this is the last time I order through DHL
2018-02-09T12:18:55 < jadew> the most awful delivery company ever
2018-02-09T12:19:25 < jadew> aside from delaying my shipment by more than a week
2018-02-09T12:19:31 < jadew> maybe 2 weeks
2018-02-09T12:19:46 < jadew> god... what a piece of shit of a company
2018-02-09T12:20:42 < qyx> also you will probably pay for the parcel storage
2018-02-09T12:20:50 < zyp> haha
2018-02-09T12:20:51 < qyx> if it is mora than a week
2018-02-09T12:20:57 < zyp> fuck DHL
2018-02-09T12:21:12 < jadew> I'm not paying for that shit, it was in storage because they wanted to keep it there
2018-02-09T12:21:19 < jadew> I provided everything they asked for
2018-02-09T12:21:43 < qyx> i have the same experience, then I paid 24€ and they did it
2018-02-09T12:22:56 < qyx> my glorious amp is picking noise from other channels
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2018-02-09T13:21:37 < karlp> is there any delivery company that is actually nice?
2018-02-09T13:22:23 < kakimir> jadew, why?
2018-02-09T13:22:46 < kakimir> bank signature and stamp... are you living in germany or something?
2018-02-09T13:23:06 < kakimir> there everything works with stamped bank papers
2018-02-09T13:23:41 < kakimir> at least what I have heard even proof of your existence is a stamped bank paper
2018-02-09T13:24:38 < jpa-> karlp: fedex is rather ok here
2018-02-09T13:25:40 < sync> kakimir: nothing here works with stamped bank papers
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2018-02-09T13:25:57 < sync> jadew: just get an account with dhl express and do everything yourself from there on
2018-02-09T13:26:10 < kakimir> are you living digital age sync ?
2018-02-09T13:26:41 < sync> no
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2018-02-09T14:04:28 < jadew> sync, I'll look into it
2018-02-09T14:04:32 < jadew> thanks
2018-02-09T14:04:42 < jadew> it seems the document they sent me was not correct
2018-02-09T14:04:46 < jadew> it says in there they need that
2018-02-09T14:04:47 < BrainDamage> dhl is pure garbage, it's the only company for which i have some shenanigan every single time they ship something
2018-02-09T14:05:00 < jadew> but I called them to bitch about it and they said it's ok if I send the pdf from the bank
2018-02-09T14:05:13 < jadew> BrainDamage, same here
2018-02-09T14:05:54 < BrainDamage> once they 'failed delivery
2018-02-09T14:05:58 < BrainDamage>  bleh
2018-02-09T14:06:51 < BrainDamage> once they 'failed delivery' 3 days in a row without even trying, since there were a dozen people present, then afterwards they wanted someone to drive 25km to fetch the package
2018-02-09T14:07:06 < BrainDamage> you're a fucking shipping company
2018-02-09T14:16:27 < karlp> they only attempt once here
2018-02-09T14:16:36 < karlp> (all of them, fedex, ups and dhl)
2018-02-09T14:16:51 < karlp> you're not around the first time, drive out to the outer suburbgs and pick it up yourself
2018-02-09T14:20:36 < jpa-> here ups and fedex send an SMS first, with options to either accept the time they suggest or give another date
2018-02-09T14:23:25 < BrainDamage> same here, and after 2 days of failed delivery you're forced to schedule the pickup
2018-02-09T14:24:37 < karlp> I got a text this morning at 10:37 saying to pay the bill they'd just put in my netbank by 10am or they'd delay my shipment.
2018-02-09T14:24:55 < karlp> the bill in my netbank is just a number, no explanation or breakdown.
2018-02-09T14:38:42 < jadew> DHL kept my package for 20+ days a couple of years ago because the chick who was handling the customs for my package went on vacation
2018-02-09T14:39:19 < jadew> I called several times and eventually they figured it out
2018-02-09T14:39:38 < jadew> I didn't make much of it back then, because I didn't have much experience with their services
2018-02-09T14:39:43 < jadew> but now I know it's because they're shit
2018-02-09T14:40:40 < jadew> UPS is the best imo
2018-02-09T14:41:34 < jadew> don't know how to get those cheap rates some people seem to have
2018-02-09T14:42:13 < jadew> next day dlivery from UK to anywhere in europe for 20 kg+ package only costs 40 gbp
2018-02-09T14:42:30 < kakimir> making desing based on chinese datasheets
2018-02-09T14:42:35 < kakimir> this is next level shit
2018-02-09T14:43:00 < kakimir> reality of consumer product design in 2018
2018-02-09T14:46:36 < day> karlp: i ship my packages directly to pickup place
2018-02-09T14:46:48 < day> to a pickup place*
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2018-02-09T17:29:50 < englishman> god dammit ARROW
2018-02-09T17:30:20 < englishman> how do you forget to write the street name on the ship label
2018-02-09T17:31:17 < sync> SAP did not have that info
2018-02-09T17:31:33 < englishman> its not like its my first order with them
2018-02-09T17:35:03 < Rob235> nice, my aunt is buying me a 3d printer for my bday
2018-02-09T17:35:15 < Rob235> going with a cheap anet a6
2018-02-09T17:35:51 < Steffanx> I blame your weird address notation eng
2018-02-09T17:35:56 < Steffanx> englishman
2018-02-09T17:36:25 < Steffanx> Rob235 better google the improvements
2018-02-09T17:36:29 < Steffanx> There are some
2018-02-09T17:36:59 < Rob235> yea I'm sure, I hear making safety improvements are fairly important to avoid fires because of their horrible QC heh
2018-02-09T17:37:06 < englishman> whats so weird
2018-02-09T17:37:32 < englishman> [street number] [street name]
2018-02-09T17:37:33 < englishman> [city], [province] [postal code]
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2018-02-09T18:05:03 < englishman> vlc 3.0 is out
2018-02-09T18:07:18 < Steffanx> Sores.
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2018-02-09T18:26:27 < Rob235> cant wait, im excited to have my own printer
2018-02-09T18:28:00 < Tectu> no more library printing?
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2018-02-09T18:42:14 < PaulFertser> Rob235: there was an issue with early anet a8 boards but they changed the terminals since then.
2018-02-09T18:42:25 < PaulFertser> Rob235: reprap wiki has plenty of relevant info
2018-02-09T18:42:34 < Rob235> ok cool
2018-02-09T18:42:57 < Rob235> Tectu: nope, their extruder needs to be replaced and I wasted 2 days attempting to print without success
2018-02-09T18:43:31 < PaulFertser> Rob235: if you plan to have bed heated to 100C or more you'll need to improvise some heat insulation, with that I've seen it reaching 135C or so
2018-02-09T18:43:57 < Rob235> ok, I read the power supply might need to be replaced for that as well
2018-02-09T18:44:59 < PaulFertser> Rob235: well, I have the factory power supply, works just fine, I've just added a big quite fan to it, and I've also raised the voltage to ~14V so that the bed heats faster and I added an external mosfet board to feel safer.
2018-02-09T18:45:00 < sync> PaulFertser: or just force in 24V
2018-02-09T18:45:36 < PaulFertser> sync: yes, but I am pretty happy with anet's power supply so far, and it can't go that high.
2018-02-09T18:46:07 < sync> did you look at the inductor in it?
2018-02-09T18:46:12 < sync> it is #420blazeit hot
2018-02-09T18:46:14 < Rob235> I'm just gonna be using PLA to start with so I think I"ll be ok for this project
2018-02-09T18:46:20 < sync> the cores are saturating like a mofo
2018-02-09T18:46:56 < Rob235> sucks I gotta order makerbot PLA if I want to match the blue I've been printing with
2018-02-09T18:46:57 < PaulFertser> sync: should I be able to feel the heat with my hand?
2018-02-09T18:47:02 < sync> yes
2018-02-09T18:47:13 < sync> or just look at it with a thermal camera
2018-02-09T18:47:30 < PaulFertser> If I had a thermal camera I wouldn't be asking that question :)
2018-02-09T18:47:54 < PaulFertser> Do you mean the big inductor in the lower part of it, close to the output terminals?
2018-02-09T18:47:58 < sync> yes
2018-02-09T18:48:05 < sync> > 2018
2018-02-09T18:48:08 < sync> > no TIC
2018-02-09T18:48:17 < sync> clearly non pro irc EE
2018-02-09T18:48:25 < sync> ;)
2018-02-09T18:48:42 < karlp> TIC?
2018-02-09T18:48:54 < sync> thermal imaging camera
2018-02-09T18:49:15 < karlp> right.
2018-02-09T18:49:29 < PaulFertser> sync: I'm a software developer, not EE, so you're correct
2018-02-09T18:49:43 < karlp> what's the cheapest one worth buying sync?
2018-02-09T18:50:10 < sync> I have the E4, it is ok
2018-02-09T18:50:30 < sync> but I need to get something with moar pixels and fps
2018-02-09T18:50:47 < PaulFertser> sync: what is the possible problem I might be facing by using stock anet a8 supply?
2018-02-09T18:51:05 < karlp> $1k for 80x60?
2018-02-09T18:51:51 < sync> yeah but you can haxx0r it
2018-02-09T18:51:57 < PaulFertser> sync: at least its casing is just mildly warm even when it's busy heating the bed.
2018-02-09T18:52:02 < sync> PaulFertser: burning your flat down
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2018-02-09T18:52:32 < PaulFertser> sync: I think I might want to try to reproduce that in a controlled environment.
2018-02-09T18:52:37 < karlp> https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Prime-Infrared-Resolution-Temperature-20-300%C3%82%C2%B0C/dp/B079PR9WC2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1518195093&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=thermal%2Bimaging%2Bcamera&th=1 looks way better
2018-02-09T18:52:38 < PaulFertser> What are the steps?
2018-02-09T18:53:10 < sync> have the heater run flat out
2018-02-09T18:53:14 < sync> by commanding temp >100°C
2018-02-09T18:53:19 < sync> and wait for a while
2018-02-09T18:54:21 < sync> looks like a pos from the reviews karlp
2018-02-09T18:54:32 < PaulFertser> sync: I've tried, couldn't notice anything overheating
2018-02-09T18:54:39 < sync> interesting
2018-02-09T18:55:20 < PaulFertser> I can try again, should heating just the bed be enough? For how long?
2018-02-09T18:55:32 < karlp> ir004 isn't on their own website.
2018-02-09T18:55:47 < sync> idk, I had it running for some while
2018-02-09T18:55:53 < sync> maybe an hour?
2018-02-09T18:57:55 < englishman> the E4 is a handy tool to have
2018-02-09T18:58:01 < englishman> but there are better ones now for $1k
2018-02-09T18:58:36 < englishman> https://therm-app.com/product/therm-app-device-with-19mm-lens/
2018-02-09T18:58:38 < englishman> this one i think
2018-02-09T18:59:16 < englishman> also, not in usa so no annoying ITAR and shitty international sales practices by FLIR
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2018-02-09T19:12:29 < PaulFertser> sync: last time I tested, bed reaches 130C in 30 minutes, and after I gave it more time (guess, 15 minutes), it reached 135C. I highly doubt I wasn't trying to "measure" power supply temperature with my hand multiple times during that process.
2018-02-09T19:12:44 < PaulFertser> sync: I'll repeat the experiment some time later and will let you know.
2018-02-09T19:15:16 < PaulFertser> sync: that's with 14V and 120mm fan blowing away from the top of the unit.
2018-02-09T19:18:58 < jadew> "Rahul: You are really nice person who try to understand the situations very well and deep."
2018-02-09T19:19:04 < jadew> amazon customer support
2018-02-09T19:19:16 < kakimir> I need battery gauge chip for 4S lipo
2018-02-09T19:19:27 < kakimir> chinachip prefferred
2018-02-09T19:20:08 < kakimir> led bar type
2018-02-09T19:21:15 < kakimir> push button and led bar lights up
2018-02-09T19:21:22 < kakimir> release button and led bar turns off
2018-02-09T19:21:27 < kakimir> optionally it has delay
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2018-02-09T19:32:49 < sync> PaulFertser: I have no forced convection for the psu
2018-02-09T19:38:36 < englishman> hmm someone wants me to go BGA484, 1mm pitch
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2018-02-09T19:59:02 < PaulFertser> sync: but are you using another, more quality unit with 24V output?
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2018-02-09T20:05:17 < Ecco> Yay, I got a PCB ruler \o/
2018-02-09T20:05:22 < Ecco> For some reason Digi-Key sent me one :)
2018-02-09T20:06:29 < upgrdman> i (well my work) had to pay for my digikey ruler
2018-02-09T20:06:40 < Ecco> Oh, they sell them?
2018-02-09T20:06:43 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-09T20:06:48 < upgrdman> the part number is printed on it :)
2018-02-09T20:06:52 < Ecco> why did you buy one?
2018-02-09T20:07:02 < Ecco> I mean, it's fun but I wouldn't have considered buying one
2018-02-09T20:07:06 < upgrdman> i wanted one, so i expense report'd one
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2018-02-09T20:07:09 < Ecco> ok :-D
2018-02-09T20:07:18 < upgrdman> nice when you need to eyeball things
2018-02-09T20:07:21 < Ecco> Indeed
2018-02-09T20:07:28 < upgrdman> "fuck, what size hole does that little shit need"
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2018-02-09T20:07:29 < upgrdman> etc.
2018-02-09T20:07:34 < Ecco> Makes sense
2018-02-09T20:07:41 < Ecco> They're probably more useful than the nVidia ons
2018-02-09T20:07:42 < Ecco> ones
2018-02-09T20:07:49 < Ecco> but the nVidia ones looks really nice
2018-02-09T20:07:57 < upgrdman> i kinda want one of those rf pcb rulers, but i have no legit use for it
2018-02-09T20:08:08 < Ecco> https://i.imgur.com/GTq24GR.jpg
2018-02-09T20:09:27 < upgrdman> i kinda wish they would make a pcb ruler that doubled as a shitty breakout board
2018-02-09T20:09:42 < upgrdman> that you could solder flying wire to when you need to PROtotype some shit quick
2018-02-09T20:09:59 < Ecco> That would be nice indeed
2018-02-09T20:10:08 < Ecco> Might make for a cool kickstarter actually
2018-02-09T20:10:22 < Ecco> The digikey ruler has a "Flux on, flux off" mention. What does it mean?
2018-02-09T20:11:47 < Ecco> Fuck, the "Buried via" is a joke
2018-02-09T20:11:50 < Ecco> I kept looking…
2018-02-09T20:12:34 < sync> PaulFertser: yes, I have a meanwell on it
2018-02-09T20:13:19 < PaulFertser> sync: so that's why you do not need cooling :)
2018-02-09T20:14:13 < sync> yes
2018-02-09T20:14:35 < sync> also the heatbed comes up to temp very fast
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2018-02-09T20:15:33 < PaulFertser> 10 minutes to 110C is fast enough for me though
2018-02-09T20:15:57 < sync> mine takes more like 1 min now
2018-02-09T20:16:04 < upgrdman> wtf. your 3d dicker takes 10 minutes to heat up??
2018-02-09T20:16:06 < sync> but it is pumping >650W into the bed
2018-02-09T20:16:31 < upgrdman> i get pissed when the makerbutt pooplicator at work takes ~3 minutes
2018-02-09T20:16:37 < sync> ^
2018-02-09T20:16:42 < upgrdman> and my wanhao chinashit takes ~1 minute
2018-02-09T20:17:12 < PaulFertser> I usually start heating in advance while I'm thinking about slicing.
2018-02-09T20:17:38 < PaulFertser> And I'm not in a hurry anyways.
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2018-02-09T20:26:50 < upgrdman> ya i kinda wish my printer could auto-warmup on power on
2018-02-09T20:27:11 < upgrdman> even if just to a safe-ish halfway point
2018-02-09T20:27:23 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: so why not edit the firmware?
2018-02-09T20:28:03 < upgrdman> PaulFertser, guess i could look into that. im a bit of a coward when it comes to doing that while a product is still in the warranty period
2018-02-09T20:28:29 < Steffanx> isnt it running something like marlin?
2018-02-09T20:28:36 < Steffanx> Easy to edit. Because tarduino.
2018-02-09T20:37:26 < upgrdman> prolly
2018-02-09T20:43:13 < Steffanx> Coward :P
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2018-02-09T20:48:12 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: not sure about Marlin but with Repetier it executes init.g file from the root of SD upon startup.
2018-02-09T20:50:49 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: and on marlin, https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/wiki/Autostart
2018-02-09T20:51:49 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: so probably no mods necessary at all
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2018-02-09T21:25:01 < englishman> god i'm bored
2018-02-09T21:25:08 < englishman> how do i become an innovator like you Steffanx
2018-02-09T21:25:31 < BrainDamage> start youtube channel
2018-02-09T21:32:08 < Steffanx> uhm, what englishman? Who/what made you think that?
2018-02-09T21:33:03 < Steffanx> Innovate like this englishman https://jordaneldredge.com/projects/winamp2-js/
2018-02-09T21:33:19 < BrainDamage> It seriously whips the Llama's ass.
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2018-02-09T21:37:26 < BrainDamage> you could start a group that does interpretive dance of electronic circuits
2018-02-09T21:37:41 < Steffanx> Im in.
2018-02-09T21:38:10 < Steffanx> Or do you expect me to dance i nothing by my bikini?
2018-02-09T21:38:25 < BrainDamage> whatever makes you comfortable
2018-02-09T21:38:47 < Steffanx> Nah, would it make your comfortable?
2018-02-09T21:41:14 < BrainDamage> it's not me being part of the dancers
2018-02-09T21:41:45 < BrainDamage> my body coordination is akin to an epileptic monkey under lsd
2018-02-09T21:46:19 < Steffanx> Sounds like you described my dance moves
2018-02-09T21:46:46 < upgrdman> PaulFertser, neat, thanks
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2018-02-09T21:47:28 < PaulFertser> upgrdman: hth, good luck
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2018-02-09T21:58:10 < Rickta59> so are you going to get marlin running on an stm32 chip PaulFertser ?
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2018-02-09T22:04:33 < PaulFertser> Rickta59: no, there's "aprinter" modern C++ templated firmware available for stm32.
2018-02-09T22:05:18 < Rickta59> interesting, i hadn't seen that
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2018-02-09T22:52:28 < Ecco> upgrdman: https://blog.digilentinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/14678082_10209191797904877_1121534383_o-600x450.jpg
2018-02-09T22:52:56 < upgrdman> Ecco, i have never seen a worse pcb ruler
2018-02-09T22:53:01 < upgrdman> wtf kinda gay shit is that
2018-02-09T22:53:14 < Ecco> Yeah, but you can solder stuff on it
2018-02-09T22:53:16 < Ecco> :-D
2018-02-09T22:53:18 < upgrdman> a breakout board for PTH shitz?
2018-02-09T22:53:21 < upgrdman> ya
2018-02-09T22:57:17 < Ecco> This one with the huge bga footprints looks sweeeeet
2018-02-09T22:57:18 < Ecco> https://blogs.nvidia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/nvidia-ruler-tilt-web.jpg
2018-02-09T22:57:40 < Ecco> The DigiKey one looks more useful thuogh, but a bit less beautiful
2018-02-09T22:58:18 < BrainDamage> footprint with no breakout makes it purely aesthetic or solder practice tought
2018-02-09T22:58:27 < Ecco> Yeah, clearly it's useless
2018-02-09T22:58:30 < BrainDamage> not that there's anything wrong with aesthetics
2018-02-09T22:58:38 < Ecco> I think it's 2 layers only anyways
2018-02-09T22:58:44 < Ecco> but it's shiny :-D
2018-02-09T22:59:00 < BrainDamage> yeah, it's just for the looks
2018-02-09T22:59:10 < Ecco> yup
2018-02-09T22:59:17 < Ecco> which I really like though :)
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2018-02-09T23:07:08 < upgrdman> Ecco, it'd be kinda sweet if nvidia made a pcb ruler that could actually be populated and used as an old video card. like a late 90's geforce card, on a pcb ruler. with a vga connect and everything
2018-02-09T23:07:34 < upgrdman> card edge pci or agp "slot" on one edge of the ruler, etc
2018-02-09T23:09:04 < Ecco> ooh, nice idea indeed :)
2018-02-09T23:09:14 < Ecco> I like the PCI slot idea
2018-02-09T23:09:23 < upgrdman> or stm could make a pcb ruler that is an f0 disco etc
2018-02-09T23:09:25 < Ecco> I doubt they still make this kind of chips though
2018-02-09T23:09:36 < inca> Why would FreeRTOS transmit data successfully over UART when I breakpoint before the code that does the transmission but not when I disable the breakpoint (but the code runs)?
2018-02-09T23:09:55 < inca> Changed priority to the highest, no change.
2018-02-09T23:19:38 < inca> The breakpoint will even get code to execute that comes before it that otherwise does not manifest as data sent over UART
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2018-02-09T23:31:17 < jpa-> Ecco: lol, i got a ruler from digikey today also
2018-02-09T23:32:11 < upgrdman> i just order $3000 of shit from digikey last week and those jews didnt send me a free ruler :(
2018-02-09T23:32:51 < jpa-> Ecco: mine actually has a buried via, it's just in a different place (about 5 cm to the right from where the arrow points)
2018-02-09T23:33:06 < Rob235> what should I put on the aluminum heated bed? glass with hairspray or tape or should I get something like printbite
2018-02-09T23:33:09 < jpa-> upgrdman: i ordered $50 and they sent me one :P
2018-02-09T23:33:15 < upgrdman> :/
2018-02-09T23:33:17 < jpa-> Rob235: what plastic?
2018-02-09T23:33:17 < kaa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZbTN6pM2SE
2018-02-09T23:33:44 < englishman> jpa-: how do you know it has a buried via?
2018-02-09T23:33:54 < Rob235> pla mostly, possibly abs sometimes, I dont really know what the others benefits are (like petg, nylon, whatever)
2018-02-09T23:33:57 < englishman> i thought it was a bit of a joke since it's obviously a 2L ruler
2018-02-09T23:34:18 < jpa-> ok well a blind via actually :P
2018-02-09T23:34:26 < srk> Rob235: blue tape or buildtak
2018-02-09T23:34:28 < jpa-> i guess the buried via is a joke
2018-02-09T23:34:51 < jpa-> though i do wonder how they made a blind via on a 2L board
2018-02-09T23:34:57 < srk> Rob235: even pva glue works or clean glass when heated. kapton as well
2018-02-09T23:34:58 < Rob235> Ive heard kinda bad things about buildtak, I think I'm leaning towards printbite
2018-02-09T23:35:28 < srk> I don't even have heated bed on my kossel mini, just blue tape :)
2018-02-09T23:35:42 < jpa-> Rob235: PVA white wood glue, diluted with water and letting it dry by the heated bed has worked well with PLA and ABS for me
2018-02-09T23:35:43 < srk> decided it's gonna print pla only
2018-02-09T23:36:11 < Ecco> upgrdman: I don't remember ever ordering anything from them
2018-02-09T23:36:12 < Ecco> :-D
2018-02-09T23:36:15 < Rob235> hmmm
2018-02-09T23:36:18 < srk> jpa-: for abs diluted abs is better :)
2018-02-09T23:36:41 < jpa-> and nastier to mess with
2018-02-09T23:36:46 < srk> oh yes
2018-02-09T23:37:01 < srk> fumes from acetone and abs, lovely
2018-02-09T23:37:26 < srk> we don't even use abs anymore, fumes sucks
2018-02-09T23:37:36 < jpa-> Ecco, englishman: ok yeah, the datasheet says the buried via is a joke, i confused it with the blind via :P
2018-02-09T23:37:38 < Rob235> yea I doubt i'll even use abs
2018-02-09T23:37:44 < englishman> datasheet :D lol
2018-02-09T23:37:46 < englishman> didnt see that
2018-02-09T23:38:01 < srk> felt headache after sitting like 4 hours next to a printer printing abs
2018-02-09T23:38:04 < englishman> ecco jpa- how much did you spent with digikey in 2017
2018-02-09T23:38:17 < Ecco> honestly I don't remember
2018-02-09T23:38:32 < Ecco> <$100
2018-02-09T23:38:36 < Ecco> maybe zero
2018-02-09T23:38:45 < jpa-> and looks like the blind via isn't a via but just a fiducial with a center dot that only goes through the copper layer
2018-02-09T23:38:53 < Rob235> printbite sounds good because it doesnt actually fuse with materials and prints just pop off after it cools
2018-02-09T23:39:06 < jpa-> englishman: $600 or so, had a few work projects
2018-02-09T23:39:14 < englishman> oh not much then
2018-02-09T23:39:14 < srk> Rob235: same with kapton
2018-02-09T23:39:25 < Rob235> the issue I think is that its slightly more insulating
2018-02-09T23:39:53 < Rob235> apparently pla isnt great with kapton
2018-02-09T23:41:38 < jpa-> tape has always felt quite cumbersome to apply
2018-02-09T23:41:52 < Rob235> yea, I'm gonna give printbite a shot
2018-02-09T23:42:12 < jpa-> nowadays i just have the wood glue on there, and when it starts to have too many tracks from past prints, i just smudge it with a drop of water and it is good as new
2018-02-09T23:43:24 < srk> I mostly use blue tape, you just clean it with alcohol before printing
2018-02-09T23:43:40 < srk> I don't even have to replace it for weeks
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2018-02-09T23:46:42 < Tectu> BuildTak works very well for me
2018-02-09T23:47:03 < jpa-> you people have 3d printers that actually work?
2018-02-09T23:47:15 < Tectu> yes
2018-02-09T23:47:25 < jpa-> i'm happy enough if the plastic stays in place until something else fails
2018-02-09T23:47:27 < Rob235> Hope I will soon
2018-02-09T23:47:33 < srk> depends, mine are collecting dust cause cncs are more interesting now :D
2018-02-09T23:47:40 < Tectu> but apparently I'm the only person in this channel that doesn't mind spending money to get something decent
2018-02-09T23:47:54 < englishman> wat
2018-02-09T23:48:08 < srk> Tectu: I've built my kossel from scratch with stuff like e3dv6 and bondtech extruder.. :)
2018-02-09T23:48:21 < srk> precision switch for probing, azteeg x5
2018-02-09T23:48:22 < jpa-> my 3d printer collects dust because it is a cnc ;)
2018-02-09T23:48:46 < englishman> born from dust
2018-02-09T23:49:58 < Rob235> am I supposed to buy a piece of glass to attach buildtak/printbite to or can you put it right on the aluminum and still change it later?
2018-02-09T23:50:32 < srk> save yourself a trouble and just buy a cnc
2018-02-09T23:50:53 < Tectu> ^ I'd rather have both/all.
2018-02-09T23:50:58 < srk> yeah
2018-02-09T23:51:01 < Rob235> that wasnt my question
2018-02-09T23:51:04 < srk> but plastic is just.. plastic :D
2018-02-09T23:51:06 < jpa-> i have both, they both have their uses
2018-02-09T23:52:30 < englishman> ^
2018-02-09T23:52:54 < Tectu> I'm currently looking for a semi-decent 5 axis CNC mill. any suggestions?
2018-02-09T23:53:36 < englishman> just email your .step to china
2018-02-09T23:53:40 < Tectu> nah
2018-02-09T23:53:42 < Tectu> budget: up to 60k USD
2018-02-09T23:53:56 < jpa-> whose monies is Tectu stealing?
2018-02-09T23:54:02 < englishman> just email your .step to china and charge 55k markup
2018-02-09T23:54:20 < Tectu> jpa-, nobodies. It's called "working"
2018-02-09T23:54:21 < upgrdman> is a STEP file the pro version of STL?
2018-02-09T23:54:24 < Tectu> also "saving"
2018-02-09T23:54:34 < Tectu> upgrdman, yes, hence the extra letter.
2018-02-09T23:54:44 < upgrdman> more letters, more pro
2018-02-09T23:54:49 < sync> semi decent, 60k and 5 axis is not gonna work out
2018-02-09T23:54:49 < Tectu> ^
2018-02-09T23:55:07 < Tectu> sync, I was afraid that that would be the conclusion. How deep would I have to digg?
2018-02-09T23:55:59 < sync> 120k will get you a haas that is decently optioned
2018-02-09T23:56:03 < upgrdman> guessing 100k is the starting point
2018-02-09T23:56:05 < upgrdman> heh i was close
2018-02-09T23:56:29 < Tectu> hmm.... 120k would be doable
2018-02-09T23:57:31 < Tectu> will talk to the guy that manages money
2018-02-09T23:57:46 < Tectu> he said that 60k is no problem. I guess that means that there's lots of reserve
2018-02-09T23:58:16 < upgrdman> good job russia   https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/02/09/1714229/russian-nuclear-scientists-arrested-for-bitcoin-mining-plot
2018-02-09T23:58:20 < sync> the problem is 120k will get you the machine, but then you will need the cam
2018-02-09T23:58:26 < upgrdman> The suspects had tried to use one of Russia's most powerful supercomputers to mine Bitcoins, media reports say. The Federal Nuclear Centre in Sarov, western Russia, is a restricted area. The centre's press service said: "There has been an unsanctioned attempt to use computer facilities for private purposes including so-called mining."
2018-02-09T23:59:03 < Tectu> sync, autodesk HSM?
2018-02-09T23:59:13 < Tectu> sync, or is that not-enough-pro? (I have no idea)
2018-02-09T23:59:29 < srk> blendercam :D
2018-02-09T23:59:33 < sync> probably ok for most stuff but yeah
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2018-02-10T00:00:17 < Tectu> http://int.haascnc.com/mt_spec1.asp?intLanguageCode=1031&id=UMC-750P&webID=UNIVERSAL
2018-02-10T00:00:24 < Tectu> and suddenly it was 200k
2018-02-10T00:01:09 < Tectu> sync, what do you think of those PocketCNC things? Just for the fun while your boss is in a meeting.
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2018-02-10T00:01:59 < sync> they are useless
2018-02-10T00:02:57 < Tectu> even for dicking around?
2018-02-10T00:03:04 < Cracki> cute http://www.pocketnc.com/blog/2017/9/8/pocket-nc-version-2
2018-02-10T00:03:33 < englishman> email me your .step i'll only charge you 50k
2018-02-10T00:04:05 < englishman> (cuz i'm just going to forward it to sync and he'll do it for 30k)
2018-02-10T00:04:08 < Tectu> why do you always want to overcharge me, englishman ?
2018-02-10T00:05:34 < srk> https://discourse.odriverobotics.com/t/swiss-type-mill-turn-center/413
2018-02-10T00:06:16 < sync> that is even more of a toy
2018-02-10T00:06:42 < Tectu> can you elaborate? the pic seems pretty serious
2018-02-10T00:06:43 < srk> ofc
2018-02-10T00:07:02 < sync> the problem is that with 5 axis is that you need huge travel to actually have reasonable volume to machine anything
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2018-02-10T00:08:39 < sync> it uses aluminium slideways with plastic gliders
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2018-02-10T00:41:29 < inca> What would cause the UART to not tx data in the DR?
2018-02-10T00:42:21 < Tectu> thanks for your opinions, mr. sync
2018-02-10T00:42:38 < Tectu> hmm... that sounded sarcastic - I meant it.
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2018-02-10T00:44:58 < BrainDamage> yeah yeah, you 'meant it'
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2018-02-10T00:49:19 < Tectu> you're not being helpful
2018-02-10T00:49:30 < Tectu> :p
2018-02-10T00:59:27 < upgrdman> wireshark pros: i have a pc connected to a ethernet device (not a router) and i want to separate the packets i capture based on "sent by this pc" or "received by this pc" ... how?
2018-02-10T00:59:36 < upgrdman> guessing mac address is the only way to do that?
2018-02-10T00:59:49 < upgrdman> but theres lots of broadcasts i see too
2018-02-10T01:00:05 < Tectu> how about mac address filter + ignoring broadcast filter?
2018-02-10T01:00:10 < Tectu> (I haven't used wireshark in years)
2018-02-10T01:00:20 < Tectu> but did something like that past then - had the same need
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2018-02-10T01:34:37 < zyp> upgrdman, broadcast/multicast only applies to destination mac
2018-02-10T01:34:46 < zyp> so you can distinguish on source mac
2018-02-10T01:34:47 < upgrdman> ya
2018-02-10T01:35:19 < zyp> if source is your mac, it should have originated locally, otherwise it should have originated elsewhere
2018-02-10T01:35:39 < upgrdman> kinda wish i could have a "left side" for transmit packets and a "right side" for receive packets, like you might see on networking diagrams
2018-02-10T01:35:48 < upgrdman> but ya, filtering on mac src works
2018-02-10T01:36:13 < zyp> you can set up coloring rules to color them differently based on source mac
2018-02-10T01:36:24 < upgrdman> k
2018-02-10T01:37:27 < zyp> speaking of wireshark, I got one of these at work now: https://www.profitap.com/profishark-1g/
2018-02-10T01:37:39 < zyp> was toying around with it earlier today
2018-02-10T01:38:30 < zyp> it has a mode where it inserts a header in front of the ethernet packet, and a wireshark dissector to parse it
2018-02-10T01:38:52 < zyp> adds the hardware timestamps and other metadata such as which of the ports it arrived at
2018-02-10T01:39:02 < zyp> which is pretty much the feature you want
2018-02-10T01:39:48 < Thorn> looks like something that could be designed in a garage by a small startup
2018-02-10T01:40:02 < zyp> probably
2018-02-10T01:40:26 < zyp> I looked inside it, they've sanded all the chips so you can't tell what they are
2018-02-10T01:40:37 < Thorn> l0l
2018-02-10T01:40:51 < zyp> but I bet it's a fx3, some fpga and a pair of gigabit phys
2018-02-10T01:41:27 < zyp> they've also got a pair of relays that bypasses it when it's unpowered
2018-02-10T01:42:29 < upgrdman> fx3 == cortex aSomething?
2018-02-10T01:42:50 < Thorn> http://www.cypress.com/products/ez-usb-fx3-superspeed-usb-30-peripheral-controller
2018-02-10T01:43:11 < Thorn> ARM9
2018-02-10T01:44:01 < upgrdman> 121fbga
2018-02-10T01:44:08 < upgrdman> heh, so many balls for usb3 :/
2018-02-10T01:44:37 < zyp> I did some tests on my ethernet device today, measured 43 microseconds between start of request and response packets
2018-02-10T01:46:47 < zyp> which is not too bad, considering the packets are traversing two store-and-forward switches in each direction
2018-02-10T01:47:59 < zyp> I figure just network latency makes up for 3/4 of that time, leaving mcu maybe around 10 us to parse request and generate response
2018-02-10T01:49:53 < zyp> eventually my goal is to put all the switches in repeater mode and get the latency down as close as possible to the required wire-time per packet
2018-02-10T01:52:47 < zyp> tempted to make a tool to visualize wire times
2018-02-10T01:53:08 < zyp> read a pcap file and print packets on a timeline view, like a logic analyzer
2018-02-10T01:53:47 < zyp> e.g. with one line per source addr
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2018-02-10T02:17:19 < upgrdman> networking pros: what happens if a pc tries to connect to a router, and they both magically have the SAME mac address?
2018-02-10T02:17:51 < upgrdman> "shits on fire yo" or is there some intelligent un-fuck-up protocol for that?
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2018-02-10T02:24:36 < zyp> a: that's not supposed to happen ever
2018-02-10T02:24:45 < zyp> b: that'll fuck up totally
2018-02-10T02:25:57 < upgrdman> k
2018-02-10T02:25:58 < zyp> your switches is going to be pretty confused if they have inbound traffic from the same MAC on multiple ports
2018-02-10T02:26:16 < zyp> remember that they do mac learning
2018-02-10T02:27:37 < zyp> so node A says something, switch learns that mac address M is associated with port 1, node B says something, switch thinks you've moved stuff around and updates its records to say address M is associated with port 2
2018-02-10T02:28:31 < zyp> some inbound packet to address M arrives on port 3, and now switch is going to send it out on port 2, even though it might be the reply node A is waiting for
2018-02-10T02:38:07 < upgrdman> sure. this was just a thought in my head. like if you're on a hostile network, etc.
2018-02-10T02:38:30 < upgrdman> i used to consider networks to be reliable. until i visited china :)     :(
2018-02-10T02:39:16 < BrainDamage> ethernet security is essentially physical security
2018-02-10T02:39:35 < BrainDamage> all it takes is plugging a crossover cable in a switch to turn all the network equipment into a xmas tree
2018-02-10T02:40:06 < BrainDamage> ( plugging it on both sides )
2018-02-10T02:41:22 < Laurenceb_> sup trolls
2018-02-10T02:41:33 < Laurenceb_> today I realised my manager is literally PJW
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2018-02-10T03:13:24 < Cracki> how literally and which PJW, _the_ pjw?
2018-02-10T03:15:49 < Laurenceb_> same accent, same mannerisms, same level of arrogance and hyperactivity
2018-02-10T03:15:55 < Laurenceb_> same autism
2018-02-10T03:18:22 < Cracki> imagine my shock! that's the only line I know of him
2018-02-10T03:18:45 < Cracki> and that he's prolly woke on some things he knows he can't say
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2018-02-10T03:41:18 < branjb> what's a pjw?
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2018-02-10T04:10:01 < dongs> misspelled SJW
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2018-02-10T04:33:01 < upgrdman> lolol   https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/7wgl8n/cutting_off_a_biker_wcgw/
2018-02-10T04:34:06 < dongs> hahaha
2018-02-10T04:34:19 < dongs> fucking thats ohsix on a bike right there
2018-02-10T04:34:28 < dongs> same level of autism
2018-02-10T04:58:38 < Rob235> that was a great video
2018-02-10T04:59:00 < Rob235> wheres my 3d printer
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2018-02-10T06:11:19 < branjb> lol
2018-02-10T06:11:58 < branjb> what country is that from
2018-02-10T06:12:41 < branjb> also, reddit; cancer
2018-02-10T06:15:32 < MrMobius> here is a puzzle for you guys http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=A20215
2018-02-10T06:16:37 < MrMobius> those things are kind of like CPLDs but come custom programmed from the factory
2018-02-10T06:16:48 < MrMobius> good luck figuring out what the shit they are selling actually does
2018-02-10T06:21:31 < englishman> cool
2018-02-10T06:21:52 < englishman> Circuit patterns - called "options" - are defined by the two metal layers and the VIAs.
2018-02-10T06:25:10 < machinehum> !
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2018-02-10T07:54:24 < stvn> pump it up
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2018-02-10T08:04:18 < stvn> i need an automatic lawnmower
2018-02-10T08:18:59 < stvn> [] [] []
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2018-02-10T09:16:52 < Steffanx> Lol. Stvn. You have a tiny lawn..
2018-02-10T09:17:01 < Steffanx> Its done in like 5 min
2018-02-10T09:17:13 < stvn> yeah muscles
2018-02-10T09:17:36 < stvn> i just want a bzb mower
2018-02-10T09:19:53 < Steffanx> A what?
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2018-02-10T09:35:07 < stvn> it was on efnet news
2018-02-10T09:48:09 < Steffanx> Nuff said stvn
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2018-02-10T09:48:19 < stvn> what's new?
2018-02-10T09:56:27 < Steffanx> Waffles are airborne
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2018-02-10T10:01:52 < englishman> 🛫
2018-02-10T10:02:07 < stvn>  \o/
2018-02-10T10:04:12 < Steffanx> Did you start the innovation yet englishman?
2018-02-10T10:04:39 < Steffanx> Can beat winamp in javascript though
2018-02-10T10:04:47 < Steffanx> Cant*
2018-02-10T10:05:04 < englishman> i only need to innovate a big air bubble into my artery
2018-02-10T10:08:09 < Steffanx> Bye englishman
2018-02-10T10:08:20 < stvn> who posted that autistic link?
2018-02-10T10:13:12 < Steffanx> What stvn? winamp js?
2018-02-10T10:13:23 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-10T10:14:05  * Steffanx \o/
2018-02-10T10:27:15 < Steffanx> Why so grumpy englishman ? Is it ➡️?
2018-02-10T10:31:22 < stvn> Steffanx, What was your father, dear? Was he a coal miner? Did he stink of the laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamp...?
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2018-02-10T11:36:12 < Steffanx> And this is what they call: silence of the (##stm32) lambs?
2018-02-10T11:38:57 < stvn> silence of the crooked doctor
2018-02-10T11:42:09 < stvn> You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes?
2018-02-10T11:57:17 < stvn> i just use a linux distro mate
2018-02-10T12:05:06 < Steffanx> Yes. You need a driver or reader R2COM
2018-02-10T12:05:24 < Steffanx> Assuming you use ext3/4: http://www.paragon-drivers.com/extfs-windows/
2018-02-10T12:05:39 < Steffanx> Payware, but.. munny isnt an issue right? ;)
2018-02-10T12:05:46 < Steffanx> There are free alternatives
2018-02-10T12:07:34 < Steffanx> Heh
2018-02-10T12:08:41 < Steffanx> Install lunix in a vm, mount the disk and copy the stuff you need? :)
2018-02-10T12:18:57 < Steffanx> Or open steam
2018-02-10T12:19:37 < stvn> lol
2018-02-10T12:22:07 < Steffanx> That wont happen
2018-02-10T12:22:11 < Steffanx>  So sleep tight
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2018-02-10T12:29:30 < zyp> morning
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2018-02-10T12:35:01 < Steffanx> Lo
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2018-02-10T13:52:35 < dongs> < R2COM> how can i view linux filesystem hdd on win10?
2018-02-10T13:52:39 < dongs> the best advice would be: don't
2018-02-10T13:55:02 < zyp> I hate the people who designed the carport here, they can't have been considering the fact that it snows in the winter
2018-02-10T13:55:50 < zyp> they designed the roof so it slopes down towards the entrance, whicn means that once it gets a heavy enough snow layer, it all slides down and ends up in front of the entrance
2018-02-10T13:56:10 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/kv9nZ.jpg <- so this is how it looked when I came home from work yesterday
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2018-02-10T14:23:46 < Steffanx> Hah
2018-02-10T14:29:52 < zyp> going out later, expect I have to remove another pile to get the car out today
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2018-02-10T14:50:10 < jadew> looking for a 4k TV 130cm+ that can do netflix
2018-02-10T14:50:13 < jadew> recommendations?
2018-02-10T14:56:44 < zyp> drop the «can do netflix» requirement and get a chromecast
2018-02-10T14:56:52 < Steffanx>  hah, was about to say that.
2018-02-10T14:57:07 < zyp> then again, I wouldn't be surprised if any tv nowadays can do netflix
2018-02-10T14:57:21 < zyp> but still
2018-02-10T14:57:33 < jadew> well, I've read some reviews complaining that they can't watch 4k video in the browser
2018-02-10T14:57:39 < jadew> because of memory limitations
2018-02-10T14:57:45 < zyp> I'd just buy something with a decent panel at a decent price, plug in a chromecast, and the rest doesn't fucking matter
2018-02-10T14:57:54 < zyp> chromecast ultra does 4k
2018-02-10T14:58:08 < jadew> good to know, I'll get a chromecast first
2018-02-10T14:58:20 < jadew> I backed something similar several years ago on kickstarter
2018-02-10T14:58:24 < jadew> matchstick or something like that
2018-02-10T14:58:29 < jadew> it failed
2018-02-10T14:58:35 < jadew> (the kickstarter)
2018-02-10T14:58:51 < Steffanx> but the chromecast is a read product
2018-02-10T14:58:53 < zyp> well, chromecast has been the shit for tv now for a couple of years
2018-02-10T14:58:55 < Steffanx> backed by a real company
2018-02-10T14:59:04 < Steffanx> *real
2018-02-10T14:59:09 < jadew> I know
2018-02-10T14:59:44 < jadew> found it at $100
2018-02-10T15:00:02 < jadew> reasonable?
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2018-02-10T15:00:22 < zyp> for the ultra?
2018-02-10T15:00:23 < Steffanx> They are sold in dutchland for 80 euro
2018-02-10T15:00:28 < Steffanx> so $100 seems ok
2018-02-10T15:00:38 < jadew> zyp, yeah
2018-02-10T15:00:41 < zyp> $100 seems right for the ultra, the other one should be about half
2018-02-10T15:00:46 < jadew> Steffanx, thanks
2018-02-10T15:00:49 < jadew> good to know
2018-02-10T15:00:52 < jadew> I'll get it today then
2018-02-10T15:01:15 < zyp> hmm, I can pick up the ultra locally for the norwegian equivalent of $86
2018-02-10T15:01:26 < Steffanx> Shouldnt you be looking for a TV first? Why get a chrome cast when you buy a tv that does it too?
2018-02-10T15:01:44 < zyp> maybe because he already has a tv that's okay
2018-02-10T15:02:28 < jadew> actually, the current TV doesn't do 4K, but if I get the chromecast now, I don't have to rush with the TV
2018-02-10T15:02:47 < zyp> that makes sense
2018-02-10T15:03:05 < Steffanx> oh ok
2018-02-10T15:03:14 < zyp> I'm perfectly happy with my seven year old dumb tv, with a chromecast plugged in
2018-02-10T15:03:15 < jadew> I wonder if those OLED TVs will drop in price anytime soon
2018-02-10T15:03:41 < jadew> yeah, ours is pretty dumb too
2018-02-10T15:03:52 < jadew> tried playing netflix from the rpi, but that didn't work
2018-02-10T15:04:03 < zyp> I've only ever been using it as a monitor anyway
2018-02-10T15:04:14 < zyp> before I got the chromecast, I had it hooked to my computer
2018-02-10T15:04:38 < sync> I'll be happy when the first 10K/120fps devices are in the market
2018-02-10T15:04:39 < zyp> but now that it's mostly used by my wife, chromecast is far more convenient :p
2018-02-10T15:04:42 < sync> now that hdmi supports it
2018-02-10T15:05:29 < Steffanx> 10k sync....
2018-02-10T15:05:51 < Steffanx> Give us some more 4k content first
2018-02-10T15:06:18 < sync> I'm not watching any movies
2018-02-10T15:06:24 < sync> I want moar resolution
2018-02-10T15:06:33 < jadew> yeah, I don't think we'll need anything more than 4k anytime soon
2018-02-10T15:06:40 < jadew> HD already looks good enough
2018-02-10T15:06:47 < jadew> 4k is amazing
2018-02-10T15:07:41 < sync> wut
2018-02-10T15:07:47 < sync> hd is pixelcancer
2018-02-10T15:07:52 < sync> 4k is acceptable
2018-02-10T15:08:02 < jadew> how big is your display?
2018-02-10T15:08:26 < sync> it is the same story 13-27"
2018-02-10T15:08:54 < jadew> I have no issue with 720p content on my 22" display
2018-02-10T15:09:07 < jadew> 1080p on the TV is also great
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2018-02-10T15:09:38 < sync> you need to get your eyes looked at
2018-02-10T15:09:39 < jadew> I imagine it would not be enough on a bigger TV tho, but as far as I could tell (from watching TVs in the stores) 4k is just amazing
2018-02-10T15:09:59 < jadew> you're not going to sit next to it
2018-02-10T15:10:01 < Steffanx> sync and his extremely high standard :P
2018-02-10T15:10:18 < jadew> you'll be a couple of feet away, so you can see the whole picture
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2018-02-10T15:11:02 < jadew> I think that from any distance where you can see the entire picture, you can't see the difference between 4k and something higher
2018-02-10T15:11:49 < sync> Steffanx: I'm sorry, but it just is that way
2018-02-10T15:12:04 < Steffanx> I know. :p
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2018-02-10T15:12:12 < sync> jadew: you can instantly tell the difference between 1080 vs 4k on 15"
2018-02-10T15:12:28 < jadew> sync, maybe
2018-02-10T15:12:46 < jadew> but 4k is looks flawless even on big displays
2018-02-10T15:12:52 < jadew> s/is//
2018-02-10T15:14:32 < sync> above 27" it is eh
2018-02-10T15:14:42 < sync> as the pixel density is just too low there
2018-02-10T15:15:45 < Steffanx> But do you want a > 27" screen when you dont watch movies?
2018-02-10T15:15:58 < jadew> sync, again, I don't think you'll see the difference if you stay at viewing distance
2018-02-10T15:16:00 < Steffanx> I wouldnt like such screen for "PC-ing"
2018-02-10T15:16:02 < sync> no, I rather want smaller
2018-02-10T15:16:03 < jadew> if you observe it from up close, sure
2018-02-10T15:16:17 < jadew> but the same can be said about anything, you look close enough, you'll see the details
2018-02-10T15:16:19 < Steffanx> imho 27" is already a bit large
2018-02-10T15:16:23 < sync> yes it is
2018-02-10T15:16:51 < sync> especially if you have three screens
2018-02-10T15:16:52 < zyp> you just have too small desks :p
2018-02-10T15:17:02 < Steffanx> no.
2018-02-10T15:17:15 < Steffanx> I would have to go away futher away from the screen, but that sucks.
2018-02-10T15:18:02 < zyp> sync, I'd rather have one large monitor than three smaller ones, assuming a comparable on-screen area
2018-02-10T15:18:35 < sync> jadew: you will see a significant difference, just normalize the density to say 24" and 80cm of viewing distance
2018-02-10T15:18:39 < sync> zyp: yes
2018-02-10T15:18:45 < sync> but nobody has such screens
2018-02-10T15:18:56 < zyp> there's nothing stopping you from having stuff side by side on one monitor, stretching one window across three monitors doesn't work as well
2018-02-10T15:19:23 < sync> yes
2018-02-10T15:19:26 < jadew> zyp, yeah, I'd like a super wide monitor too
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2018-02-10T15:19:49 < jadew> one that's maybe 2.5 times as wide as a normal wide screen monitor
2018-02-10T15:19:51 < sync> if somebody had a display with two 4k resolutions in parallel I'd like that
2018-02-10T15:19:57 < sync> but they all top out at 1440p iirc
2018-02-10T15:20:02 < jadew> and the OS should support splitting it up so it works like 3 monitors
2018-02-10T15:20:18 < sync> or even 1080
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2018-02-10T15:36:35 < jadew> alright, ordered it
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2018-02-10T15:39:26 < Steffanx> :)
2018-02-10T15:40:50 < jadew> the issue with TVs is that all of them have very compelling bad reviews
2018-02-10T15:41:00 < jadew> except for the OLED ones, which are still very expensive
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2018-02-10T16:20:31 < jadew> bought a TV too, but doesn't have HDCP :/
2018-02-10T16:20:41 < jadew> can do netflix 4k natively tho
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2018-02-10T17:38:43 < Laurenceb_> dongs on suicide watch
2018-02-10T17:38:49 < Laurenceb_> IDF btfo
2018-02-10T17:39:53 < kaa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IB8p-YpXwA
2018-02-10T17:43:30 < kaa> how is dongs?
2018-02-10T17:47:25 < kaa> Laurenceb_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQzwCDuA394
2018-02-10T17:47:50 < Laurenceb_> interesting, thanks
2018-02-10T17:48:02 < Laurenceb_> annoying soyboy presenters
2018-02-10T17:48:15 < Laurenceb_> oh wait thats an advert
2018-02-10T17:48:19 < Laurenceb_> <tardboy
2018-02-10T17:48:36 < kaa> why not adblock?
2018-02-10T17:49:14 < Cracki> keep up. you gotta use ublock origin these days.
2018-02-10T17:49:54 < kaa> okay
2018-02-10T17:50:10 < kaa> why?
2018-02-10T17:50:14 < kaa> better filtering?
2018-02-10T17:51:34 < Steffanx> no paid "dont block me" crap
2018-02-10T17:55:36 < Laurenceb_> british "culture" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h37KQu64RY4
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2018-02-10T17:59:43 < branjb> 256 mb sd cards now?  how do they fit that many 1's and 0's in such a small package
2018-02-10T18:00:24 < Steffanx> Welcome in 2002 branjb?
2018-02-10T18:00:43 < branjb> err
2018-02-10T18:00:46 < branjb> 256 gb
2018-02-10T18:00:49 < Steffanx> :P
2018-02-10T18:01:15 < mwfc> there are bigger ones i think.
2018-02-10T18:01:32 < branjb> i needed an sd card and that was the first that popped up on amazon
2018-02-10T18:01:43 < branjb> seems like last time i needed an sd card 32gb was high
2018-02-10T18:04:03 < Laurenceb_> there are supposed to be 1TB ones soon
2018-02-10T18:04:23 < branjb> 1 bit per atom?
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2018-02-10T18:20:12 < Cracki> we're still a bit away from that
2018-02-10T18:20:53 < Cracki> nand flash is the proving ground of new photolithography processes.
2018-02-10T18:20:59 < Steffanx> Pun intended right?
2018-02-10T18:21:06 < Cracki> mebbeh
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2018-02-10T18:22:05 < Cracki> theres SLC (1 bit/cell, 2 levels), MLC/TLC (2-3 bits per cell, so 4/8 levels), I'm sure they're working on 4 bit/cell too
2018-02-10T18:22:48 < Cracki> QLC it seems https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/09/micron_qlc/
2018-02-10T18:23:17 < Cracki> verrry cheap and slow and unreliable, for a while
2018-02-10T18:24:50 < Cracki> haha https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/02/02/ruler_and_miniruler_ssd_formats_look_to_banish_diskstyle_drives/
2018-02-10T18:26:43 < englishman> 1080p is 25 years old
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2018-02-10T18:33:28 < kaa> hello englishman
2018-02-10T18:33:52 < kaa> what to do this evening and tommorow?
2018-02-10T18:34:42 < englishman> sauna
2018-02-10T18:35:04 < englishman> maybe you can rent a cat
2018-02-10T18:35:20 < kaa> rent a cat.. hmm
2018-02-10T18:35:25 < kaa> interesting
2018-02-10T18:35:50 < englishman> i rented a cat last month, when i was out of town
2018-02-10T18:35:51 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/OHgajSK.jpg
2018-02-10T18:36:24 < kaa> that is your rental?
2018-02-10T18:36:27 < englishman> yes
2018-02-10T18:37:20 < kaa> friends with saunas are out of town
2018-02-10T18:37:46 < kaa> my appartment rules do not allow pets
2018-02-10T18:37:56 < englishman> maybe you can go to a board game bar
2018-02-10T18:38:00 < Cracki> it's not a pet, it's an emotional support being
2018-02-10T18:38:19 < kaa> it's not a pet - it's a friend
2018-02-10T18:39:29 < kaa> go to bar hmm..
2018-02-10T18:40:13 < englishman> kaa these tikkas are awesome
2018-02-10T18:40:19 < Cracki> >we're just roommates, I swear
2018-02-10T18:40:21 < englishman> thanks for making them
2018-02-10T18:41:05 < kaa> you probably know more about tikka than I do
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2018-02-10T18:49:42 < Rob235> well the library printer is back working.  just used a glue stick and its printing better than ever
2018-02-10T18:52:53 < kaa> englishman, should I just go to bar by myself
2018-02-10T18:53:39 < englishman> depends how social you are
2018-02-10T18:53:56 < kaa> not that social
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2018-02-10T18:57:17 < kaa> when do you tell what you are making englishman?
2018-02-10T18:57:24 < englishman> hmm?
2018-02-10T18:57:27 < englishman> i am not making anything
2018-02-10T18:57:33 < kaa> with all the edisons
2018-02-10T18:57:39 < englishman> oh
2018-02-10T18:57:44 < kaa> or whatever those are called
2018-02-10T18:57:48 < englishman> that project will never end
2018-02-10T18:58:03 < englishman> it is a drone project
2018-02-10T18:58:11 < englishman> there are actually a lot flying
2018-02-10T18:58:18 < englishman> 200+ in japan
2018-02-10T18:58:29 < englishman> 100+ in california including at facebook and apple campuses
2018-02-10T18:58:31 < kaa> you have done drones?
2018-02-10T18:58:43 < kaa> you do drones for all of them?
2018-02-10T18:58:52 < englishman> i'm a small part of that project
2018-02-10T18:58:59 < kaa> yes. certainly
2018-02-10T19:00:16 < Rob235> oh snap
2018-02-10T19:01:09 < englishman> those were actually assembled right at DJI
2018-02-10T19:01:38 < kaa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Z_-nfVUS4 this is cool
2018-02-10T19:01:46 < kaa> facebooks own the company
2018-02-10T19:06:29 < kaa> #future
2018-02-10T19:07:13 < englishman> maybe you can contribute to an open source project
2018-02-10T19:07:27 < englishman> or start a kombucha culture
2018-02-10T19:08:03 < englishman> or find an attractive cactus or other succulent to grow in your apartment
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2018-02-10T19:13:26 < kaa> saturday night..
2018-02-10T19:14:32 < kaa> englishman, start an opensource project
2018-02-10T19:14:39 < kaa> that sounds more like it
2018-02-10T19:15:33 < kaa> I should go to thrift shop tommorow
2018-02-10T19:15:37 < kaa> next to my appartment
2018-02-10T19:16:09 < kaa> some like old lorry terminal warehouse thing that is thrift shop
2018-02-10T19:16:33 < kaa> maybe have some good finds before I get too much money to care
2018-02-10T19:19:46 < englishman> i love those stores
2018-02-10T19:19:54 < englishman> and flea markets
2018-02-10T19:20:01 < englishman> rifling through other people's junk
2018-02-10T19:20:50 < branjb> you can find good deals on test equipment if they are near colleges/universities/hospitals
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2018-02-10T19:23:01 < kaa> research / tech center area electric recycling bins would be nice thing to have access to
2018-02-10T19:23:16 < kaa> there is these concentrations of tech companies
2018-02-10T19:27:24 < Laurenceb_> arggggg
2018-02-10T19:27:28  * Laurenceb_ on suicide watch
2018-02-10T19:27:48 < Laurenceb_> apparently I have to add video and database integration to muh amazing babby shake app
2018-02-10T19:27:52 < Laurenceb_> literally wtf
2018-02-10T19:28:08 < englishman> babbyshake social app
2018-02-10T19:28:11 < Laurenceb_> this literally makes no sense
2018-02-10T19:28:20 < Laurenceb_> >Bane: that come later
2018-02-10T19:28:48 < Laurenceb_> I didnt ask if they want the video to be added directly as database records
2018-02-10T19:29:29 < Laurenceb_> R2COM wants me on ignore amirite?
2018-02-10T19:30:08 < Laurenceb_> R2COM is a russian haxor
2018-02-10T19:30:12 < Laurenceb_> PUTINBOT!!!
2018-02-10T19:30:36 < MrMobius> even worse than russian he is a shitty ukrainian
2018-02-10T19:30:46 < Laurenceb_> haha oh wow
2018-02-10T19:31:02 < Laurenceb_> you have no chance to survive make your time
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2018-02-10T19:33:35 < Laurenceb_> I seriously need to quite this jerb
2018-02-10T19:33:46 < Laurenceb_> but that would involve finding a new and less lame jerb
2018-02-10T19:33:49 < Laurenceb_> not so easy
2018-02-10T19:34:08 < Laurenceb_> I guess there is the NEET lifestyle
2018-02-10T19:34:35 < Laurenceb_> R2COM, you might be good at this internet troll lifestyle still
2018-02-10T19:34:46 < Laurenceb_> P R O J E C T I O N
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2018-02-10T19:35:45 < Laurenceb_> well I'm off to screw some tindrrrr grrrlz
2018-02-10T19:35:53 < MrMobius> lol
2018-02-10T19:35:54 < Laurenceb_> grids here I come
2018-02-10T19:36:21 < Laurenceb_> actually Ukrainian grrrls
2018-02-10T19:36:24 < Laurenceb_> cucked
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2018-02-10T19:37:59 < englishman> no
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2018-02-10T19:41:08 < zyp> haha
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2018-02-10T19:42:50 < Steffanx> englishman had a bad day? :P
2018-02-10T19:43:16 < englishman> no it's a beautiful day
2018-02-10T19:43:22 < kaa> R2COM had it comming
2018-02-10T19:43:23 < Steffanx> Now it is indeed
2018-02-10T19:43:27 < englishman> how are you
2018-02-10T19:43:31 < Steffanx> Im good.
2018-02-10T19:43:37 < Steffanx> There too i hope
2018-02-10T19:43:39 < englishman> glad to hear it
2018-02-10T19:43:48 < Rob235> oi
2018-02-10T19:44:12 < MrMobius> I guess you could say "is you" in some parts of England
2018-02-10T19:45:01 < Rob235> I cant decide how to design the top of this dome
2018-02-10T19:45:12 < Steffanx> m eneither
2018-02-10T19:45:28 < Rob235> I know, its tough right?
2018-02-10T19:45:36 < Steffanx> Da
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2018-02-10T20:16:45 < kaa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFQ3sajIdaM
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2018-02-10T20:35:42 < branjb> https://youtu.be/3BJU2drrtCM
2018-02-10T20:36:41 < englishman> cool
2018-02-10T20:36:48 < englishman> @ both of those
2018-02-10T20:52:26 < Thorn> holy shit they banned r2cunt
2018-02-10T20:52:32 < Thorn> not even 2 years late
2018-02-10T20:52:39 < branjb> rip
2018-02-10T20:54:56 < Thorn> here have a cat https://www.instagram.com/p/BfBMBhVBcGY/
2018-02-10T20:56:05 < branjb> worst toolchain ever?  friend is asking me how to build an STM32CubeMX project with a makefile on his raspberry pi + attach gdb to it via st-link
2018-02-10T20:59:04 < englishman> #gatito
2018-02-10T21:03:03 < kaa> sexy cat
2018-02-10T21:08:43 < PaulFertser> branjb: doesn't sound extraordinary
2018-02-10T21:28:58 < PaulFertser> branjb: it's exactly the same as using GCC-based toolchain on any other computer.
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2018-02-10T22:06:16 < kaa> snus
2018-02-10T22:06:35 < Rob235> stop tobacco
2018-02-10T22:06:51 < Rickta59> kaa .. that reminds me of 1978
2018-02-10T22:07:08 < Rickta59> * part time operator job
2018-02-10T22:07:22 < kaa> that reminds me of when I was not
2018-02-10T22:07:56 < Rickta59> * this is probably why I have ringing in my ears now
2018-02-10T22:08:10 < Rickta59> * forgot how noisy a computer room is
2018-02-10T22:09:05 < kaa> that reminds me of when I was holding a metal plate about 50kg of weight when my friend hammered bolts thru it to concrete
2018-02-10T22:09:39 < kaa> repeat that 50times
2018-02-10T22:10:01 < kaa> half way done I decided to put some ear protection on
2018-02-10T22:10:34 < kaa> I get intense ringing time to time
2018-02-10T22:12:19 < kaa> plate was next to right ear
2018-02-10T22:25:02 < kaa> movie night?
2018-02-10T22:28:49 < Steffanx> Cloverfield paradox is hot it seems
2018-02-10T22:29:34 < Steffanx> watched it today and im not not what the fuzz is about
2018-02-10T22:30:30 < kaa> it's how movie marketing works
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2018-02-10T23:49:13 < Rob235> wut wut, in the butt
2018-02-10T23:51:04 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/9NkSqfJ.png
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2018-02-11T02:11:02 < R0b0t1> https://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=151825522827005&w=2
2018-02-11T02:11:07 < R0b0t1> Anyone do HID stuff?
2018-02-11T02:11:15 < R0b0t1> That is attempting to use userspace HID on Linux
2018-02-11T02:11:32 < R0b0t1> As far as I can tell the report descriptor and the report itself are fine
2018-02-11T02:16:04 < R0b0t1> I decided to add a wait
2018-02-11T02:16:06 < R0b0t1> Now it work
2018-02-11T02:16:08 < R0b0t1> works
2018-02-11T02:16:12 < R0b0t1> I don't know how long is long enough, though
2018-02-11T02:23:01 < Laurenceb_> "Those who can't, Blog"
2018-02-11T02:28:34 < R0b0t1> So it looks like you need to wait at least a timeslice (16ms) to get a 50% success rate
2018-02-11T02:28:40 < R0b0t1> Laurenceb_: Some blogs are very insightful
2018-02-11T02:28:45 < R0b0t1> Some are not
2018-02-11T02:30:00 < R0b0t1> Two timeslices is 100%, I think
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2018-02-11T03:40:42 < Tectu> sup library printers?
2018-02-11T03:41:05 < stvn> pumping
2018-02-11T03:41:41 < Tectu> pump all them filaments
2018-02-11T03:42:17 < stvn> 3d print everything
2018-02-11T03:42:41 < branjb> set library filament to load filament and then walk away
2018-02-11T03:42:45 < branjb> summon the spaghetti monster
2018-02-11T03:42:58 < stvn> i 3d printed a keyboard
2018-02-11T03:43:23 < Tectu> better 3d print sopme pumpz
2018-02-11T03:43:28 < stvn> it only has 3 keys
2018-02-11T03:44:23 < Tectu> may I guess:   /join ##stm32    /ignore laurenceb   /ban laurenceb
2018-02-11T03:45:03 < Tectu> only HID you know
2018-02-11T03:45:25 < dongs> hi dongs
2018-02-11T03:46:02 < Tectu> good day to you sir, how was your sleep?
2018-02-11T03:46:22 < dongs> pretty good
2018-02-11T03:46:25 < dongs> ready2innovate
2018-02-11T03:46:40 < Tectu> glad to hear that
2018-02-11T03:46:47 < Tectu> let the bloggin' begin
2018-02-11T03:47:00 < zyp> what's your current innovation level?
2018-02-11T03:50:29 < stvn> this windows 10 pc is so fast
2018-02-11T03:50:44 < dongs> why did you even bother time with lunix
2018-02-11T03:50:48 < dongs> windows10 is amazing
2018-02-11T03:51:15 < stvn> i like to play around with it to see how broken it is
2018-02-11T03:51:42 < dongs> virtualcox is free
2018-02-11T03:51:58 < stvn> is it filthy?
2018-02-11T03:54:40 < stvn> Base Package (USB support only for USB 1.1): GNU General Public License version 2
2018-02-11T03:55:01 < dongs> haha
2018-02-11T03:55:08 < dongs> BUT ITS RREE
2018-02-11T03:55:13 < dongs> free i mean
2018-02-11T03:55:15 < stvn> haha
2018-02-11T03:58:24 < stvn> i better download it
2018-02-11T04:02:28 < dongs> huh
2018-02-11T04:02:32 < dongs> apparently I have zyp's package
2018-02-11T04:02:35 < dongs> with ll-dong parts
2018-02-11T04:02:38 < dongs> but i dont know where it is
2018-02-11T04:03:35 < dongs> found
2018-02-11T04:04:15 < dongs> shrouded jtag is so kawaii
2018-02-11T04:06:05 < stvn> i see
2018-02-11T04:26:28 < R0b0t1> dongs: I tried to write a keyboard driver on Windows and spent like a week
2018-02-11T04:26:34 < R0b0t1> I got it done in less than a day
2018-02-11T04:26:36 < R0b0t1> on Linux
2018-02-11T04:26:56 < R0b0t1> More like 2-3 weeks on Windows
2018-02-11T04:28:53 < dongs> > keyboard driver
2018-02-11T04:28:57 < dongs> what autistic garbge is that
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2018-02-11T04:59:49 < R0b0t1> dongs: It should have been very simple
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2018-02-11T04:59:58 < R0b0t1> Can you think of anything more simple?
2018-02-11T05:00:48 < garylabronz> hello, i have an st link v2 - i was programming an stm32, the st-link is now failing with the "unknown chip id" -> logs: https://pastebin.com/raw/wrQcu5st
2018-02-11T05:01:21 < garylabronz> im not sure how to fix it, based off the issues in the st-link repo.  I also have access to a windows box and using it with the st-link utility it just can't find any devices
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2018-02-11T05:11:25 < R0b0t1> garylabronz: Check the connection
2018-02-11T05:12:19 < garylabronz> i have just the stlink connected, no micro controller
2018-02-11T05:12:49 < garylabronz> st-util fails as well
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2018-02-11T05:43:25 < Thorn> garylabronz: it is not supposed to work if there is no target connected
2018-02-11T05:44:51 < Thorn> also generally speaking you'd be better off using openocd or the official st-link software, it should be much more reliable
2018-02-11T05:49:05 < R0b0t1> garylabronz: I recommend openocd, even on Windows
2018-02-11T05:49:12 < R0b0t1> There is some minor setup, you need to know how to set up your path
2018-02-11T05:50:48 < Thorn> ok now intellisense is suggesting symbols that do not exist, such as LL_APB1_GRP1_PERIPH_USART1
2018-02-11T05:58:36 < Thorn> found dongs on aliexpress https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1757055?spm=2114.12010108.0.0.757f3b35djuykf
2018-02-11T05:59:40 < garylabronz> i'll take a look at openocd, and hte st-link utility provided by st for windows - also can not find the device any more
2018-02-11T05:59:51 < dongs> why did you breka it
2018-02-11T05:59:52 < dongs> break
2018-02-11T06:02:36 < garylabronz> lol
2018-02-11T06:13:27 < stvn> wtf am i reading
2018-02-11T06:16:20 < stvn> 220V 5000W SCR Voltage Regulator Moror Speed Controller
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2018-02-11T06:27:26 < dongs> autism
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2018-02-11T06:35:19 < stvn> for all
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2018-02-11T07:18:53 < ColdKeyboard> If I'm trying to make something like this -> https://imgur.com/a/9ctok on embedded system. Is there an engine/library that will already do this for me? Or if not, what is the best memory wise way to implement this? I'm thinking a three matrix (x*y*uint8) size that will contain direction, velocity and position (which pixel is on/off)
2018-02-11T07:21:03 < ColdKeyboard> What doesn't seem very good is that my direction matrix will just use 8 values but I'm wasting uint8_t to store something that will be 0-8
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2018-02-11T07:22:43 < ColdKeyboard> Or would it be wiser to have struct with x,y, velocity and direction and then just add 1000 points and calculate all movement based on global acceleration data
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2018-02-11T09:52:57 < stvn> hi sir
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2018-02-11T10:48:31 < Thorn> progress launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0
2018-02-11T10:49:03 < Thorn> much better quality video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_0wUC_V72s
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2018-02-11T11:01:32 < Thorn> abort
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2018-02-11T12:24:08 < dongs> haha
2018-02-11T12:24:12 < dongs> and lunix faggots bitch about dll hell
2018-02-11T12:24:16 < dongs> tried to run some compiled bin
2018-02-11T12:24:17 < dongs>  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.20' not found (required by bin/sMedioDTCPServer)
2018-02-11T12:24:20 < dongs> what a FUCKING JOKE
2018-02-11T12:24:23 < dongs> get this
2018-02-11T12:24:35 < dongs> fucking ship your god damn shit with binaries of wahtevefr the fuck it was linked against
2018-02-11T12:24:38 < dongs> if you want shit to work on shit
2018-02-11T12:24:45 < dongs> this is why no serious vendor will never support lunix trash
2018-02-11T12:24:49 < dongs> a daily fucking moving target
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2018-02-11T12:26:59 < Lux> but that's more for the vendor to blame if he's to retarded to do static linking
2018-02-11T12:27:19 < Lux> from my experience that solves such issues
2018-02-11T12:28:22 < jpa-> libstdc++ is still easy, but with libc that is a real pain
2018-02-11T12:29:27 < jpa-> it doesn't work on newer distros if you ship & LD_LIBRARY_PATH libc, but it doesn't work on older distros if you do ship it
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2018-02-11T13:09:52 < karlp> Lux: more and more static linking being done.
2018-02-11T13:10:00 < karlp> "fixes dependency problems"
2018-02-11T13:10:19 < karlp> oh, that's what you were saying now, misread.
2018-02-11T13:10:33 < Lux> yeah :)
2018-02-11T13:10:51 < Lux> maybe one downside is increasted storage useage
2018-02-11T13:10:57 < Lux> but that hardly matters these days
2018-02-11T13:11:04 < karlp> while I agree there's usecases for it, an awful lot of iti is, "I don't know how anything works, I'm just going to statically compile it all"
2018-02-11T13:11:09 < karlp> and that's just fucking braindead
2018-02-11T13:11:17 < karlp> increased storage really does matter
2018-02-11T13:11:28 < karlp> it's why you can't use golang on anything embedded.
2018-02-11T13:13:56 < Lux> right, didn't really have embedded stuff in mind
2018-02-11T13:14:16 < Lux> but there it's another story as the platform is different
2018-02-11T13:14:30 < Lux> on x86 storage is ample
2018-02-11T13:19:44 < jpa-> ram is not so ample
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2018-02-11T13:23:45 < karlp> jpa-: shush you and your reality
2018-02-11T13:25:02 < jpa-> myself when i make binaries for linux i just compile on an old debian and ship everything except glibc & glibc++
2018-02-11T13:28:15 < qyx> why no generating a proper package with a proper dependency list?
2018-02-11T13:28:40 < qyx> select 2-3 distros to support and fuk the others
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2018-02-11T13:30:07 < jpa-> mostly because protoc shipped in distros used to be way too old
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2018-02-11T14:00:15 < kaa> https://youtu.be/1EWQYAfuMYw?t=5m36s 1959 hardware
2018-02-11T14:04:41 < dongs> autistic
2018-02-11T14:05:27 < kaa> yes
2018-02-11T14:07:29 < dongs> https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut/pull/64#issuecomment-364746568
2018-02-11T14:08:51 < kaa> I have not heard about trolling contribution
2018-02-11T14:09:12 < kaa> sounds like I can actually help with open source projects
2018-02-11T14:17:27 < Steffanx> You even took the effort to do a pull request. Nice job dongs
2018-02-11T14:18:04 < dongs> thanks. its such a thankless job to try and help out opensores projects
2018-02-11T14:18:07 < dongs> and they don't even aprpeciate it.
2018-02-11T14:18:08 < dongs> FUCKING FAGS
2018-02-11T14:19:52 < kaa> thanks for your trolling contribution
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2018-02-11T14:23:13 < kaa> should I go to flea market next to my appartment?
2018-02-11T14:23:39 < dongs> who teh fuck is kaa
2018-02-11T14:23:41 < dongs> kikemir?
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2018-02-11T14:25:06 < Steffanx> wb kakimir
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2018-02-11T14:25:30 < Steffanx> go live blog kakimir.
2018-02-11T14:25:37 < Steffanx> *vlog
2018-02-11T14:25:48 < kakimir> yeah no
2018-02-11T14:26:13 < kakimir> it's live nowdays though
2018-02-11T14:26:23 < kakimir> streaming
2018-02-11T14:26:58 < kakimir> *life
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2018-02-11T14:30:15 < dongs> BREAKING: Russian Antonov An-148 plane, operated by Saratov Airlines and carrying 65 passengers and six crew members, crashes shortly after take-off from Moscow▒s Domodedovo airport
2018-02-11T14:30:44 < kakimir> live stream now!
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2018-02-11T14:46:19 < PaulFertser> I'm going to fly with Saratov Airlines tomorrow from Moscow Domodedovo, heh.
2018-02-11T14:47:28 < kakimir> flying in russia is still safer than driving a car
2018-02-11T14:47:49 < PaulFertser> Correct
2018-02-11T14:47:53 < Steffanx> lol
2018-02-11T14:48:13 < Steffanx> Same applies to finland and dtuchland probably.. or maybe to any country
2018-02-11T14:48:23 < kakimir> maybe not uganda
2018-02-11T14:49:03 < PaulFertser> That said, many more people die in russia in automotive accidents compared to 1st world countries :(
2018-02-11T14:49:05 < Tectu> are we doing geography again?
2018-02-11T14:49:08 < kakimir> where airplanes go die doing overweight takeoffs and zero to little maintenance
2018-02-11T14:49:38 < Steffanx> Stop negativity Tectu.
2018-02-11T14:49:54 < Tectu> oh gosh I am so sorry that I offended you. here's a hug:  *hug*
2018-02-11T14:50:12 < Steffanx> "englishman has kicked R2COM from ##stm32 (no negativity)" :P
2018-02-11T14:50:20 < Tectu> LOL
2018-02-11T14:50:28 < Tectu> everything is awesome \o/
2018-02-11T14:50:39 < kakimir> time to be positive
2018-02-11T14:50:59 < dongs> < PaulFertser> I'm going to fly
2018-02-11T14:51:05 < dongs> PaulFertser: assuming they finish cleaning up the airport?
2018-02-11T14:52:14 < PaulFertser> dongs: the accident doesn't affect the airport itself afaict, the crashed plane had 2 minutes of flight after take off. It's snowing atm but I think they'll be able to clean the runways I think.
2018-02-11T14:52:23 < dongs> oh ok
2018-02-11T14:52:38 < dongs> i geuss shortly after takeoff means it did clear the airport
2018-02-11T14:53:00 < Tectu> oh... I missed some news I guess, what happened? :/
2018-02-11T14:54:35 < dongs> try scrolling up
2018-02-11T15:02:09 < kakimir> they need to inspect runway
2018-02-11T15:02:12 < kakimir> inch by inch
2018-02-11T15:02:29 < kakimir> if there is parts of the plane
2018-02-11T15:02:59 < PaulFertser> Of course
2018-02-11T15:03:15 < Tectu> sounds like water dissolvable planes would finally be useful - just hose it down
2018-02-11T15:04:33 < PaulFertser> If it carries water dissolvable people, probably.
2018-02-11T15:05:18 < kakimir> biodegradable
2018-02-11T15:10:49 < zyp> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVwV2p8WsAAVbQe.jpg:large cleared the airport and then some
2018-02-11T15:11:44 < jpa-> nice how it shows altitude and vertical speed up to the end
2018-02-11T15:12:20 < jpa-> -3392 feet/min vertical speed doesn't sound particularly survivable
2018-02-11T15:13:02 < Tectu> how did that happen? doesn't seem like just engine failure?
2018-02-11T15:13:44 < zyp> planes can glide just fine without engines, so obviously not
2018-02-11T15:15:13 < kakimir> 1km/minute is 16m/s that is 60km/h
2018-02-11T15:17:20 < zyp> I figure either structural damage, lost control of flight surfaces, crew incapacitated or deliberate action by the crew
2018-02-11T15:17:33 < kakimir> ice
2018-02-11T15:17:59 < Tectu> crew incapacitated  <--- auto pilot / board computer would surely prevent that kind of behavior w/o any human intervention anyway, no?
2018-02-11T15:18:19 < BrainDamage> not if it has been disabled first
2018-02-11T15:18:21 < zyp> only if it's enabled
2018-02-11T15:18:23 < dongs> pic of that plane looks like garbage
2018-02-11T15:18:33 < kakimir> why there is no flight status "crashed" used?
2018-02-11T15:19:14 < kakimir> see it on flight time board "oh it has crashed"
2018-02-11T15:19:19 < PaulFertser> dongs: it was built just 8 years ago
2018-02-11T15:21:42 < jpa-> airbus planes probably would prevent such steep descent, but i don't think antonovs have any flight envelope protection
2018-02-11T15:22:02 < zyp> jpa-, yeah, I were thinking about that as well
2018-02-11T15:24:44 < kakimir> "pilot proof" is airbus only consept
2018-02-11T15:24:58 < jpa-> hmm, i've been wondering for half an hour now what smells like burning electronics; now it turns out it is my fingers
2018-02-11T15:25:28 < BrainDamage> are you a robot?
2018-02-11T15:25:37 < jpa-> kakimir: nah, germanwings crashed just fine even though it was airbus
2018-02-11T15:25:51 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-11T15:25:53 < jpa-> not sure whether i'd prefer a quick fast crash or a long descent
2018-02-11T15:26:07 < kakimir> I wonder how
2018-02-11T15:26:26 < jpa-> what do you mean? it's not gonna pull up automatically if you fly into terrain :P
2018-02-11T15:26:42 < kakimir> I think it does
2018-02-11T15:26:50 < jpa-> how would you land then?
2018-02-11T15:26:56 < kakimir> unless landing gear is out
2018-02-11T15:27:18 < jpa-> i doubt suicide pilots care about aerodynamic efficiency that much that lowering landing gears would be a problem :P
2018-02-11T15:28:01 < jpa-> https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwingsin_lento_9525#/media/File:Altitude_Chart_for_Flight_4U9525_register_D-AIPX.svg   hmm pretty deep descent there also
2018-02-11T15:28:38 < Steffanx> Would be a nice addition for a "Air crash investigation"-show. "Why did he lower the landing gears".
2018-02-11T15:29:16 < zyp> the limiting factor on descent speed is Vne
2018-02-11T15:29:27 < zyp> you can descend pretty fast without exceeding Vne
2018-02-11T15:29:33 < Steffanx> When you decide to go for a suicide mission, at least make it a bit mysterious.
2018-02-11T15:30:47 < BrainDamage> leave a sappy request for help you you're cohereced on the radio then
2018-02-11T15:31:44 < dongs> is taht kikepedia link aboute that germanwings crazie
2018-02-11T15:31:50 < jpa-> yeah
2018-02-11T15:31:51 < dongs> who was flying ms flight sim
2018-02-11T15:32:01 < jpa-> surprisingly similar descent profile
2018-02-11T15:32:19 < Steffanx> When you look at speed, you'll see it actually slows down while decending
2018-02-11T15:32:28 < jpa-> dongs: don't recall anything about flight sim, he was a pilot anyway
2018-02-11T15:32:50 < dongs> jpa,  i forgot but some recent crazie was doing some training on a flight sim at home
2018-02-11T15:32:53 < dongs> maybe that was mh370 guy?
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2018-02-11T15:33:15 < kakimir> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3007690/Dozens-injured-RAF-transport-plane-nose-dived-4-400ft-27-seconds-Captain-took-photographs-left-Nikon-camera-joystick-stuck.html
2018-02-11T15:34:27 < kakimir> I would almost call it a desing flaw if you have moving handrest of electrically moved seat right behind the "joystick"
2018-02-11T15:34:31 < zyp> a google search suggests that the emergency descent rate in an A320 is on the order of 7000 ft/min
2018-02-11T15:34:44 < zyp> «Note: When in IDLE thrust, high speed and with speed brake extended, the rate of descent is approximately 7 000 ft/min. To descend from FL 390 to FL 100, it takes approximately 4 min and 40 NM.»
2018-02-11T15:35:07 < jpa-> "Report recommends ways of managing pilots' boredom are investigated"   maybe they could integrate ms flight sim there so pilots can play while they fly
2018-02-11T15:35:13 < zyp> but I guess this might depend on altitude/air density
2018-02-11T15:35:23 < Steffanx> The camera was the issue, not hte hand rest kakimir...
2018-02-11T15:35:31 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-11T15:35:40 < Steffanx> You cannot design something to be 100% human proof.
2018-02-11T15:36:15 < kakimir> you leave level surface as if it was a table to put your stuff on between stick and handrest
2018-02-11T15:36:18 < zyp> so the germanwings descent profile should have been perfectly within allowable flight envelope
2018-02-11T15:37:21 < jpa-> and that means the antonov also came down more like a plane than a rock
2018-02-11T15:37:44 < PaulFertser> Rumors say it might have collided with a russian post heli.
2018-02-11T15:37:47 < Steffanx> Are pilots even allowed to have cameras and/or phones in the cockpit? With all the fuzz about batteries and stuff
2018-02-11T15:38:16 < jpa-> military probably has their own regulations
2018-02-11T15:38:26 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: depends on the rules of the company regarding recondings. But they all have iPads with flight plans and other aux info.
2018-02-11T15:38:38 < jpa-> and that
2018-02-11T15:39:31 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: at least one pilot of s7 airlines was regularly posting gopro cockpit videos.
2018-02-11T15:39:35 < kakimir> Steffanx, they even use company ipads as personal flight hour record and stuff
2018-02-11T15:40:02 < Steffanx> but that is company stuff and not a personal huge camera.
2018-02-11T15:40:47 < PaulFertser> https://www.instagram.com/flysafe737/
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2018-02-11T15:47:06 < kakimir> it says that such activities help pilots to keep alertness during long flights
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2018-02-11T16:04:56 < kakimir> https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1I7w8OpXXXXbfXpXXq6xXFXXXq/10pcs-4-Color-LED-Display-Batt-indicator-Digital-BattCursor-Bargraph-LED-Bar-Graph-battery-indicator-Battery.jpg_640x640.jpg have you seen such but smaller?
2018-02-11T16:05:11 < dongs> cute
2018-02-11T16:05:15 < kakimir> that is like dip20 at least
2018-02-11T16:07:24 < kakimir> massive
2018-02-11T16:25:01 < dongs> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2789335
2018-02-11T16:25:26 < dongs> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2430252 holy fuck autism
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2018-02-11T16:44:18 < dongs> http://www.fullhan.com/en/uploads/2015/09/221712232038.pdf very chinese
2018-02-11T16:47:42 < dongs> i have a feelign thats the shit in those $30 cheerson shitcopters
2018-02-11T16:47:51 < dongs> cuz the entier block diagram is literally whats on that board
2018-02-11T16:48:00 < dongs> camera in, SPI for firmware, and SDIO to a wifi module
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2018-02-11T16:55:51 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/need-get-pcb-design-its/ even kikemir can apply to this one!
2018-02-11T16:56:37 < kakimir> pakilancer
2018-02-11T16:58:52 < kakimir> I want to do high intensity led strobe as hobby project
2018-02-11T16:58:59 < dongs> how high
2018-02-11T16:59:07 < dongs> instant epilepsy after 20 blinks?
2018-02-11T16:59:24 < dongs> or are you talking about xenon flash-intensity
2018-02-11T16:59:28 < dongs> so taht you can feel the burned ozone
2018-02-11T16:59:32 < dongs> after each strobe
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2018-02-11T17:00:07 < dongs> i remember tehre was some jewtube vid of some retard who strapped like over 9000W of white leds on a shitcopter
2018-02-11T17:00:14 < kakimir> yes
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2018-02-11T17:00:20 < kakimir> over 10000lumens
2018-02-11T17:00:22 < dongs> it lighted up like 10km^2 area
2018-02-11T17:00:29 < kakimir> hmm wait
2018-02-11T17:00:33 < kakimir> 9000W?
2018-02-11T17:00:42 < dongs> there was more batteries than leds
2018-02-11T17:00:56 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl1xYyGom1g
2018-02-11T17:01:16 < kakimir> yes
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2018-02-11T17:02:33 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhOeky8yEow this is the better version
2018-02-11T17:03:11 < kakimir> imo
2018-02-11T17:03:14 < dongs> haha
2018-02-11T17:03:15 < dongs> well sorry
2018-02-11T17:03:29 < kakimir> but I want to make a strobo
2018-02-11T17:03:49 < kakimir> hypothethically for use in airplane
2018-02-11T17:05:57 < kakimir> idea is to run led for gross overcurrent for very short time
2018-02-11T17:08:43 < jpa-> why not just the specified pulse current?
2018-02-11T17:08:56 < jpa-> it's not likely you'll get much advantage from exceeding the pulse current specs
2018-02-11T17:09:00 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-11T17:09:21 < kakimir> how would you implement such driver jpa-?
2018-02-11T17:09:48 < jpa-> depends totally on specs
2018-02-11T17:10:02 < jpa-> i think i might use capacitors, resistors and transistors
2018-02-11T17:10:12 < kakimir> I would too
2018-02-11T17:10:17 < jpa-> if feeling very fancy, even a microcontroller or some IC could be used
2018-02-11T17:13:07 < kakimir> how to control pulse current?
2018-02-11T17:13:40 < englishman> interesting, a high-wing regional jet with turbofans
2018-02-11T17:14:10 < kakimir> antonov?
2018-02-11T17:14:23 < englishman> yes
2018-02-11T17:14:46 < kakimir> what are the benefits?
2018-02-11T17:15:29 < kakimir> thing with high wing planes is that you can not see the most important surface of the wing from window
2018-02-11T17:16:16 < englishman> at least for small plates its visibility yeah
2018-02-11T17:16:18 < englishman> no idea about big planes
2018-02-11T17:16:56 < kakimir> how to control pulse current to led englishman ?
2018-02-11T17:17:07 < englishman> sic mosfet
2018-02-11T17:17:11 < jpa-> how short are your pulses?
2018-02-11T17:17:28 < Laurenceb_> attn dongs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP-Q8_Slt_s
2018-02-11T17:17:55 < jpa-> you can easily enough get to 0.1µs control loop delay with just an opamp to mosfet gate
2018-02-11T17:18:33 < jpa-> and with a gate resistor it will rise and fall nice and smooth so that you have a remote hope of passing emc tests
2018-02-11T17:19:44 < kakimir> yea
2018-02-11T17:23:58 < kakimir> http://www.cree.com/led-components/media/documents/XLampPulsedCurrent.pdf
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2018-02-11T18:59:47 < kakimir> recommends small inexpensive mcu to drive a pile of leds?
2018-02-11T19:00:08 < kakimir> needs ADC
2018-02-11T19:01:20 < zyp> stm32h7
2018-02-11T19:01:57 < kakimir> yes
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2018-02-11T19:12:11 < Lux> stm8s is cheap
2018-02-11T19:25:28 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVj6S-BX0AAdgFF.jpg
2018-02-11T19:25:46 < kakimir> Lux, what are benefits compared to AVR?
2018-02-11T19:25:54 < Rickta59> cost
2018-02-11T19:26:07 < Lux> 30c from china
2018-02-11T19:26:10 < Rickta59> stm peripherals
2018-02-11T19:26:23 < kakimir> how easy it is to flash program?
2018-02-11T19:26:44 < branjb> damn Laurenceb_ it's almost like Glasgow is a third world country
2018-02-11T19:27:08 < Lux> http://www.colecovision.eu/stm8/
2018-02-11T19:27:15 < Laurenceb_> one of those news stories is unlike the others...
2018-02-11T19:27:39 < Steffanx> Not just china afaik, Lux. They are cheap everywhere
2018-02-11T19:29:08 < kakimir> how easy to flash?
2018-02-11T19:29:13 < Steffanx> easy.
2018-02-11T19:29:25 < Steffanx> i believe openocd does debugging now too
2018-02-11T19:29:27 < kakimir> less afwul than pic?
2018-02-11T19:29:35 < kakimir> does it hase swd?
2018-02-11T19:30:03 < Steffanx> it has SWIM
2018-02-11T19:30:21 < Steffanx> the real stlink supports that
2018-02-11T19:30:32 < Steffanx> the white one that is
2018-02-11T19:30:37 < Steffanx> not sure about other programmers
2018-02-11T19:31:20 < Steffanx> oh, the discoveries have a programmer on it ofcoruse
2018-02-11T19:33:36 < kakimir> swim?
2018-02-11T19:34:41 < Steffanx> Single wire interface module
2018-02-11T19:35:45 < kakimir> does ST part search suck or is it just me?
2018-02-11T19:36:06 < kakimir> oh it was just me
2018-02-11T19:38:40 < branjb> are ST's servers absolutely garbage or is it just me?
2018-02-11T19:38:44 < branjb> super slow + constantly timing out
2018-02-11T19:39:28 < kakimir> I don't see any problem
2018-02-11T19:39:54 < kakimir> else than stm chips don't usually come with decently small packages
2018-02-11T19:40:22 < kakimir> I can choose between so8 and tssop20
2018-02-11T19:40:27 < Steffanx> only thing that is slow for me is when i have to login
2018-02-11T19:40:54 < kakimir> I think I need to go PIC
2018-02-11T19:41:02 < Steffanx> why?
2018-02-11T19:41:08 < Steffanx> Cant beat stm8s
2018-02-11T19:41:26 < kakimir> because my chinaguy uses them too
2018-02-11T19:41:32 < kakimir> and I have programmer
2018-02-11T19:41:39 < Steffanx> poor you
2018-02-11T19:41:41 < kakimir> and I have seen some really small pics
2018-02-11T19:42:16 < kakimir> PICs
2018-02-11T19:42:46 < Steffanx> SO-8 isnt small enough
2018-02-11T19:42:47 < Steffanx> ?
2018-02-11T19:47:35 < kakimir> it's massive
2018-02-11T19:49:16 < kakimir> It's a pleasure to build prototypes and such from so packages
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2018-02-11T19:52:01 < kakimir> and all the stuff where you have the room
2018-02-11T19:52:07 < kakimir> for big components
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2018-02-11T19:53:09 < kakimir> attiny20 it is
2018-02-11T19:54:02 < englishman> cant beat that qfn20 stm8s
2018-02-11T19:54:19 < qyx> is there a libopenstm8?
2018-02-11T19:55:30 < kakimir> englishman, what exactly?
2018-02-11T19:55:46 < kakimir> I need adc and at least 5 high current outputs
2018-02-11T19:55:58 < kakimir> plus one input
2018-02-11T19:56:07 < englishman> qyx, what for? there is stdperiphlib, and a newer bloated and annoying HAL to pick from
2018-02-11T19:56:33 < Steffanx> Define: high current, kakimir
2018-02-11T19:57:03 < kakimir> >30mA
2018-02-11T19:57:10 < kakimir> abs max
2018-02-11T19:58:20 < kakimir> also VCC abs max >100mA
2018-02-11T19:58:31 < kakimir> and GND
2018-02-11T20:07:42 < Tectu> ethernet working \o/
2018-02-11T20:12:55 < Steffanx>  \0/
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2018-02-11T20:53:11 < qyx> receiver working \o/
2018-02-11T20:53:20 < qyx> but there is a delay of 2us somewhere
2018-02-11T20:53:30 < qyx> if I use it to capture the 1PPS signal directly
2018-02-11T20:53:42 < Steffanx> what receiver mr qyx?
2018-02-11T20:54:25 < qyx> old project revived.. gps synced 4 channel analol input
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2018-02-11T20:54:37 < qyx> I plan to use it for some VLF reception
2018-02-11T20:56:50 < Steffanx> ah
2018-02-11T20:57:37 < qyx> https://i.imgur.com/EAAQIy6.png
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2018-02-11T21:03:32 < Laurenceb_> interdasting
2018-02-11T21:07:51 < qyx> I am tidying it up atm, some old sch is here https://github.com/iqyx/kiwi-basic/blob/master/pcb/kiwi-basic-sch.pdf
2018-02-11T21:09:10 < Laurenceb_> more relevant than muh gui
2018-02-11T21:09:26 < Laurenceb_> how 2 video into database
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2018-02-11T21:23:55 < kakimir> time to search "full movies" from youtubes
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2018-02-11T21:31:54 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if I could abuse video containers to store babby shake data
2018-02-11T21:32:22 < Laurenceb_> apparently it now has to have video from front of vehicle and stereo sound
2018-02-11T21:32:43 < Laurenceb_> so I could start with that and add streams for gps and mems data...
2018-02-11T21:32:59 < Laurenceb_> perhaps using flac
2018-02-11T21:35:24 < qyx> didn't you have all the requirements before the project started?
2018-02-11T21:35:41 < qyx> as in all projects...?
2018-02-11T21:35:52 < BrainDamage> memes data
2018-02-11T21:36:30  * qyx soldering a heater for LiFePO4 cells
2018-02-11T21:36:35 < Laurenceb_> ^accurate
2018-02-11T21:36:43 < Laurenceb_> qyx: there are no requirements
2018-02-11T21:36:57 < Laurenceb_> there is no clue as to wtf I am even supposed to be doing
2018-02-11T21:36:58 < qyx> seems like they come up with something new every day
2018-02-11T21:37:05 < Laurenceb_> other than *shrug* babby shake
2018-02-11T21:39:24 < karlp> heh, if I page down on https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2789335 the browser continually tries resizing something, like it's having a fit
2018-02-11T21:39:28 < qyx> and hows your russian girl
2018-02-11T21:39:38 < qyx> all matlabbed and modelled?
2018-02-11T21:39:52 < Laurenceb_> she is doing something with methlab....
2018-02-11T21:39:52 < qyx> are your babys shaking according to well known equations?
2018-02-11T21:40:02 < Laurenceb_> they are according to her
2018-02-11T21:40:09 < Laurenceb_> nothing about this project makes any sense
2018-02-11T21:40:19 < BrainDamage> maybe you should try to shake a babby in her
2018-02-11T21:40:38 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-11T21:40:41 < Laurenceb_> *into
2018-02-11T21:40:55 < qyx> karlp: looks like the viewport is jumping up and down
2018-02-11T21:42:29 < Laurenceb_> ukp4M to do... something
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2018-02-11T22:02:05 < Steffanx> karlp it does it here too.
2018-02-11T22:02:38 < Steffanx> its the think you see on the main page on the bottom. The About stuff etc.
2018-02-11T22:03:10 < Steffanx> *thing
2018-02-11T22:03:50 < Steffanx> dongs why your adapter costs the same as the panel itself? :(
2018-02-11T22:04:37 < Laurenceb_> anyone use Qt multimedia?
2018-02-11T22:04:50 < Laurenceb_> I can't see a way to add multiple audio streams to a video :(
2018-02-11T22:11:01 < englishman> Steffanx: still worth it
2018-02-11T22:11:27 < englishman> its more that the panels are extraordinarily cheap, than the adapter is expensive
2018-02-11T22:11:49 < Steffanx> Dont you have like 3 of them on your desk mr englishman?
2018-02-11T22:12:06 < englishman> 2 of his and 2 of mine with the 12.9" chromebook pixel panels
2018-02-11T22:12:20 < Steffanx> oh you do something similar?
2018-02-11T22:12:38 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/sEUYAkv.png
2018-02-11T22:12:49 < Steffanx> Yes, that's damn sexy.
2018-02-11T22:14:03 < Steffanx> What are you even visualizing Laurenceb_?
2018-02-11T22:14:05 < Steffanx> Mems data?
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2018-02-11T22:14:58 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-11T22:15:28 < Steffanx> And you want to add the data as audio stream?
2018-02-11T22:15:32 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-11T22:15:37 < Steffanx> hah
2018-02-11T22:15:53 < Laurenceb_> as apparently they now want video and 44.1kHz stereo FLAC anyway
2018-02-11T22:16:21 < Laurenceb_> guess I could add more stereo channels and encode the mems data into them
2018-02-11T22:17:08 < Steffanx> I can imagine it's nice to have the data in a single file/container but .. such abuse.
2018-02-11T22:17:23 < Laurenceb_> hmm
2018-02-11T22:17:36 < Laurenceb_> each memes sensor is 10channels at 2kHz
2018-02-11T22:17:49 < Laurenceb_> turn it into one channel at 20kHz
2018-02-11T22:18:18 < Laurenceb_> I wonder if Qt multimedia can convert audio sample rates
2018-02-11T22:18:31 < Steffanx> Why not 10 audio channels? :)
2018-02-11T22:19:26 < Laurenceb_> because the audio channel is not going to use 2kHz sampling
2018-02-11T22:19:38 < Laurenceb_> hmm also its going to have its own clock
2018-02-11T22:19:40 < Laurenceb_> rageeee
2018-02-11T22:19:54 < Laurenceb_> I want to avoid making it dependent on ALSA
2018-02-11T22:20:10 < Laurenceb_> ALSA can do resampling and synchronisation
2018-02-11T22:20:48 < Laurenceb_> I could almost certainly do all of this as a composite device in ALSA
2018-02-11T22:21:32 < Steffanx> One day there will be a new Laurenceb_ and thing: WTF where they thinking.
2018-02-11T22:21:42 < Steffanx> *think
2018-02-11T22:22:23 < Steffanx> Damn it. I can no longer pick the correct word. (think vs thing)
2018-02-11T22:24:44 < Steffanx> Guten tag.
2018-02-11T22:27:25 < karlp> Laurenceb_: .mkv probably works for what  you're doing, if you want to keep it all in files
2018-02-11T22:27:50 < Laurenceb_> interesting, thanks
2018-02-11T22:28:41 < karlp> it's the container format to contain all container formats.
2018-02-11T22:30:28 < karlp> (you'll probably run into some tools however, that _claim_ to support mkv but that actually only do a subset and break things ;)
2018-02-11T22:30:35 < karlp> (much like exif/tiff extensions)
2018-02-11T22:37:07 < karlp> hehe, "I am trying to compile the source code but i keep getting this error: "
2018-02-11T22:37:21 < karlp> "~/src$ gcc *.c"
2018-02-11T22:37:24 < karlp> well done
2018-02-11T22:37:51 < karlp> "I have read the README file over 100 times and followed its instructions,"
2018-02-11T22:39:12 < kakimir> do you guise drink coffee before work or at work first time?
2018-02-11T22:44:28 < Steffanx> At work
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2018-02-11T23:26:23 < kakimir> cut my hair today
2018-02-11T23:27:03 < kakimir> everything went
2018-02-11T23:27:45 < BrainDamage> after work
2018-02-11T23:28:58 < Steffanx> When does work end BrainDamage ?
2018-02-11T23:29:06 < Steffanx> After you woke up?
2018-02-11T23:29:58 < BrainDamage> 17.30
2018-02-11T23:30:56 < BrainDamage> i normally drink tea while working or for breakfast, coffee only leaves me nervous, i prefer to drink after i go out to wake me up
2018-02-11T23:32:18 < Steffanx> I just drink one to wake up and tea/water the rest of the work day.
2018-02-11T23:38:22 < upgrdman> good job canada   https://i.redd.it/1p4jlh6zujf01.jpg
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2018-02-12T00:02:05 < willmore> I'm looking into making precisely spaced pulses--long streams of them with different timing between all of them.  The pulses themselves are fixed width.  I thought I would use the general purpose timers TIM2-5 (STM32F103).
2018-02-12T00:02:40 < willmore> Can they trigger a DMA that will write to the CNT register?
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2018-02-12T00:03:14 < willmore> So that I could just have a list of CNT values and the timer would load and pulse the output autonamously?
2018-02-12T00:03:44 < willmore> And pointers on how to get started on making it work would, of course, be welcome.
2018-02-12T00:04:29 < karlp> yes, you can do things like that.
2018-02-12T00:04:45 < karlp> you may want to look at some of the techniques people have used for driving ws2812 leds, they often do teh same thing
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2018-02-12T00:07:50 < willmore> karlp, that thought crossed my mind.  Thanks for the refresher.
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2018-02-12T00:21:18 < willmore> Ugg, the blog post where the technique was first written about is now gone and everyone links to it.
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2018-02-12T01:26:19 < zyp> WS2812 code typically runs a fixed period, but use DMA to update duty
2018-02-12T01:26:47 < zyp> but there's nothing special to any of this
2018-02-12T01:27:45 < zyp> you just configure a dma job to read from your buffer and write to the address of the CNT register, then you have the job trigger by the update event or similar
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2018-02-12T02:22:07 < Laurenceb_> https://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc#Virtual_multi_channel_devices
2018-02-12T02:22:16 < Laurenceb_> >this will not create the mythical "multi-channel soundcard out of el-cheapo consumer cards"
2018-02-12T02:22:18 < Laurenceb_> reeeeeeeeeeeeee
2018-02-12T02:22:29 < Laurenceb_> but that is perfectly possible to do in theory
2018-02-12T02:26:06 < Laurenceb_> >opensores
2018-02-12T02:27:41 < BrainDamage> depends, do you need sample level syncronization? because the clocks will drift
2018-02-12T02:29:23 < Laurenceb_> I know right
2018-02-12T02:29:42 < Laurenceb_> but that can be corrected by the host
2018-02-12T02:29:59 < Laurenceb_> maybe I just have to make my own soundcards
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2018-02-12T02:32:23 < Laurenceb_> apparently an alsa composite device just aligns at the start of the recording
2018-02-12T02:34:09 < Laurenceb_> I need to align stereo mics with sensors
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2018-02-12T02:43:13 < BrainDamage> unless you inject a sync signal in the audio feed it's going to be a pain
2018-02-12T02:43:39 < BrainDamage> because desktop os won't guarantee you deterministic latency, so you'll need to realign, at least the start
2018-02-12T02:45:09 < jadew> I didn't get the chromecast after all
2018-02-12T02:45:30 < jadew> the TV I got seems to accept casting from the PC just fine and does netflix 4k natively
2018-02-12T02:45:34 < Laurenceb_> BrainDamage: the usb driver should know how many samples its getting per frame
2018-02-12T02:45:42 < jadew> what I didn't know when I got it was that netflix doesn't have a lot of 4k content
2018-02-12T02:46:19 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb_: yes, but the initialization?
2018-02-12T02:46:26 < Laurenceb_> fair point
2018-02-12T02:46:35 < Laurenceb_> there is going to be some lag from buffers
2018-02-12T02:46:50 < BrainDamage> also the negotiation of 'start recording'
2018-02-12T02:46:59 < Laurenceb_> with the memes sensors I stick a sample with usb frame number then inverse of frame number
2018-02-12T02:47:14 < Laurenceb_> that allows for first sample to be found and all devices to be aligned
2018-02-12T02:47:29 < BrainDamage> yes, but you have total control there, with alsa you have to use whatever the driver was written
2018-02-12T02:47:38 < Laurenceb_> on everything I've tried so far there is 1 or 2 frames buffered in the driver
2018-02-12T02:47:42 < BrainDamage> which means you'll have the analyze the driver for the device you're going to use
2018-02-12T02:47:43 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2018-02-12T02:47:48 < Laurenceb_> eww
2018-02-12T02:48:02 < Laurenceb_> well it will be usb audio, so same deal and the memes sensors
2018-02-12T02:48:05 < BrainDamage> you could also just empirically try a couple hundred times
2018-02-12T02:48:12 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-12T02:48:27 < BrainDamage> since it can be automated, why not
2018-02-12T02:48:43 < BrainDamage> if it proves to have consistent delay, you're set
2018-02-12T02:49:21 < Laurenceb_> yeah but the cards will still drift
2018-02-12T02:49:38 < Laurenceb_> even if I can align the start
2018-02-12T02:49:44 < BrainDamage> yup, can't do much about that other than periodically reset
2018-02-12T02:49:48 < Laurenceb_> hmm hang on
2018-02-12T02:49:56 < Laurenceb_> I could timestamp in Qt
2018-02-12T02:49:58 < BrainDamage> or insert sync
2018-02-12T02:50:19 < Laurenceb_> start a QTimer then read that every 1k samples or whatever
2018-02-12T02:50:36 < Laurenceb_> then I "just" have to resample
2018-02-12T02:50:38 < Laurenceb_> funtimes
2018-02-12T02:51:13 < BrainDamage> now i really have to sleep, or I'll hate myself more than usual tomorrow
2018-02-12T02:51:55 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-12T02:54:19 < Laurenceb_> this could get a bit nasty
2018-02-12T02:54:28 < Laurenceb_> but it looks possible to resample using Qt
2018-02-12T02:56:57 < Laurenceb_> Lanczos resampling with a virtual sample clock thats aligned with ntpd
2018-02-12T02:57:06 < Laurenceb_> surely the answer to all problems :P
2018-02-12T02:57:29 < Laurenceb_> hmm this could be an audiophool product
2018-02-12T02:58:52 < sync> I don't like being inserted into Qt softwarez
2018-02-12T02:59:48 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-12T03:00:04 < Laurenceb_> ur name is Lanczos?
2018-02-12T03:00:11 < Laurenceb_> oh sync
2018-02-12T03:00:15  * Laurenceb_ is being slowww
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2018-02-12T03:00:38 < Laurenceb_> I guess this could be kind of cool
2018-02-12T03:00:48 < Laurenceb_> ntpd works surprisingly well
2018-02-12T03:00:58 < Laurenceb_> so I could have all data aligned to actual time
2018-02-12T03:02:07 < Laurenceb_> and short period jitter from usb drivers etc is irellevant as only long period drift needs correcting
2018-02-12T03:02:16 < Laurenceb_> as long as all devices have a decent clock
2018-02-12T03:03:47 < zyp> jadew, which tv did you get?
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2018-02-12T03:27:52 < jadew> zyp, got a cheap toshiba
2018-02-12T03:27:52 < ColdKeyboard> What should the signal on PC13 and PC14 look like on STM32F103 when you are using RTC?
2018-02-12T03:28:01 < jadew> 55"
2018-02-12T03:28:16 < ColdKeyboard> I see some "noise", no clean sinewave but RTC seems to be "working"
2018-02-12T03:28:26 < jadew> doesn't have a lot of cool features, but seems to work fine and the picture quality is ok
2018-02-12T03:28:40 < jadew> 55U6663DG
2018-02-12T03:44:57 < Laurenceb_> lel or there is this
2018-02-12T03:44:59 < Laurenceb_> https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/v1.4/query_language/continuous_queries/
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2018-02-12T03:48:34 < jadew> most ebay sellers are fucking liers
2018-02-12T03:48:47 < jadew> especially the ones selling parts
2018-02-12T03:49:03 < jadew> if they sell parts that are working, they mention "Used, working"
2018-02-12T03:49:13 < jadew> if they sell non working shit, it's always "untested"
2018-02-12T03:49:26 < jadew> but they don't have anything that's both "tested" and non-working
2018-02-12T03:49:38 < R0b0t1> Does anyone know a good explanation of the STM32 USB peripherals?
2018-02-12T03:49:44 < R0b0t1> I have a decent grasp of the protocol itself
2018-02-12T03:49:53 < R0b0t1> But trying to read the autogenerated projects only confused me
2018-02-12T03:51:35 < ColdKeyboard> What is going on here -> https://i.imgur.com/4bwAT6w.png This is my PC15 pin on STM32F103
2018-02-12T03:51:51 < ColdKeyboard> It's so noisy and also from time to time it would go flat
2018-02-12T03:53:55 < R0b0t1> ColdKeyboard: Is that sine wave 50 or 60Hz?
2018-02-12T03:54:00 < R0b0t1> What frequency is it?
2018-02-12T03:54:15 < R0b0t1> You should pull the switch high or low and not leave it floating
2018-02-12T03:55:23 < ColdKeyboard> R0b0t1: This is output of RTC 32.768 crystal
2018-02-12T03:57:03 < R0b0t1> Looks like it could still work
2018-02-12T03:57:29 < R0b0t1> Are you using driving capacitors? Is the crystal driver configured properly?
2018-02-12T03:57:50 < R0b0t1> If you're using a crystal as a digital timebase it doesn't need to look pretty ColdKeyboard
2018-02-12T03:58:15 < ColdKeyboard> R0b0t1: I got the board from eBay so it's possible that crystal is garbage or that caps aren't properly sized
2018-02-12T03:58:46 < R0b0t1> Maybe but for that to be the case they'd have to have randomly picked a cap
2018-02-12T03:58:47 < ColdKeyboard> I don't know where is that noise comming from, my 5V and 3v3 are surprisingly clean
2018-02-12T03:58:54 < R0b0t1> The datasheets for crystals tell you what to use
2018-02-12T03:59:09 < R0b0t1> Well I think it's coming from the crystal, ColdKeyboard
2018-02-12T03:59:34 < ColdKeyboard> Makes sense. I guess it's time to order new one and new caps from DigiKey and see it that solves the issue
2018-02-12T03:59:58 < ColdKeyboard> What's weird is that RTC signal goes away. I figured that my clock randomly just stops for certain period of time and then starts running again
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2018-02-12T09:17:27 < R0b0t1> ColdKeyboard: That means it is shorting
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2018-02-12T09:17:45 < R0b0t1> ColdKeyboard: If the board was made poorly there may be a short between layers, but that generally only happens with 4 or more layers
2018-02-12T09:17:54 < R0b0t1> Or maybe a short between pads
2018-02-12T09:18:03 < R0b0t1> Or bad solder
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2018-02-12T09:28:45 < kakimir> what are plates that are soldered to lipo BMS and conductors from cells are spot welded to those plates
2018-02-12T09:28:52 < kakimir> how to find them from internets?
2018-02-12T09:30:10 < kakimir> spot weld plate pcb is not very good search
2018-02-12T09:32:41 < qyx> battery nickel tab?
2018-02-12T09:32:59 < kakimir> battery nickel tab is welded to this plate
2018-02-12T09:33:03 < kakimir> soldered to pcb
2018-02-12T09:33:20 < kakimir> has enought thermal mass that it wont remove itself when spot welded
2018-02-12T09:33:51 < qyx> then I don't know what you mean
2018-02-12T09:36:40 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/13cQpxxytBxtZvR00WlHRECniqTrS8R9Q/view?usp=sharing zoom in boi
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2018-02-12T09:39:31 < kakimir> yeah.. should cut my nails but not now
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2018-02-12T10:01:59 < kakimir> nope
2018-02-12T10:07:44 < dongs> did YOU
2018-02-12T10:08:08 < dongs> wait you said non-free
2018-02-12T10:08:20 < dongs> number of RMS dildos up your ass right now?
2018-02-12T10:08:53 < jadew> interesting question on the TV
2018-02-12T10:09:20 < jadew> if you have a piece of string around the earth and then add another piece of string around the earth, that has a circumference that's 1 m longer than the other
2018-02-12T10:09:28 < jadew> can you pass a rabbit between the two strings?
2018-02-12T10:09:55 < dongs> wat
2018-02-12T10:10:09 < dongs> why would anyone even give a fuck about this hypothetical wank
2018-02-12T10:10:19 < jadew> cuz the answer will surprise you
2018-02-12T10:10:23 < dongs> no it wont
2018-02-12T10:10:30 < jadew> so you know you can?
2018-02-12T10:10:30 < zyp> jadew, depends on the unstated rules
2018-02-12T10:10:30 < dongs> i'm not expecting anything other than autism from the answer
2018-02-12T10:10:42 < dongs> so i'm not gonna be surprised
2018-02-12T10:11:10 < zyp> jadew, as long as the extra 1m is not evenly distributed, the second string could take on a number-8 like shape, with a second circle with a 1m circumference
2018-02-12T10:11:23 < jadew> zyp, evenly distributed
2018-02-12T10:11:54 < dongs> the question is dumb
2018-02-12T10:11:59 < dongs> and so is whoever is asking / generating it
2018-02-12T10:12:06 < jadew> turns out in order to gain x number of circumference, the radius has to increase by the same amount, no matter the start radius
2018-02-12T10:12:46 < jadew> circumference = 2 pi R => R = c / (2 pi)
2018-02-12T10:13:13 < jadew> 11 / (2 pi) - 10 / (2 pi) == 1001 / (2 pi) - 1000 / (2 pi)
2018-02-12T10:13:45 < jadew> you get about 16 cm of extra radius from adding one more meter to the circumference
2018-02-12T10:13:51 < dongs> turn off your tv
2018-02-12T10:13:54 < dongs> and do something useful
2018-02-12T10:13:56 < zyp> haha
2018-02-12T10:13:57 < dongs> ^ my suggestion
2018-02-12T10:14:00 < jadew> lol
2018-02-12T10:14:04 < zyp> I have to second dongs here
2018-02-12T10:21:51 < dongs> no
2018-02-12T10:21:54 < dongs> why would anyone
2018-02-12T10:22:22 < zyp> not gonna waste my time commenting on that.
2018-02-12T10:23:53 < dongs> zyp is the objet-oriented pro troll
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2018-02-12T10:29:32 < dongs>  crt> I need to learn poop
2018-02-12T10:29:33 < dongs> ftfy
2018-02-12T10:45:16 < kakimir> englishman, I'm still like waiting for that killer stm8 chip
2018-02-12T10:57:14 < kakimir> recommend red/green smd led
2018-02-12T10:57:16 < kakimir> small
2018-02-12T10:57:26 < kakimir> bicolor
2018-02-12T11:02:51 < dongs> https://everlightamericas.com/530/bi-color-top-view
2018-02-12T11:05:41 < kakimir> I just decided I go with seperate red led for bottom segment of "fuel gauge bar"
2018-02-12T11:06:04 < dongs> nice fucking autism there bro
2018-02-12T11:06:39 < kakimir> last minute autism
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2018-02-12T11:30:09 < qyx> jadew: and is the rabiit smaller than 16cm?
2018-02-12T11:30:20 < qyx> actually that question was not that dumb at all
2018-02-12T11:30:46 < qyx> more like a test of abstract thinking
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2018-02-12T12:20:29 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq25IrDd2tk
2018-02-12T12:24:09 < englishman> kakimir: are you saying there is an stm8 that isn't awesome
2018-02-12T12:25:07 < kakimir> I just need one that suits my purpose better than attiny20 in vqfn pack
2018-02-12T12:25:29 < kakimir> it hase ADC, it hase high current pins for leds and low price
2018-02-12T12:25:36 < kakimir> also I know how to program it
2018-02-12T12:26:20 < stvn> greeting
2018-02-12T12:26:29 < kakimir> I'm waiting for your respose englishman
2018-02-12T12:26:43 < kakimir> sell me the stm8 awsomeness
2018-02-12T12:26:51 < stvn> good mroring englishman
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2018-02-12T12:40:11 < Steffanx> Isnt that attiny expensive shit?
2018-02-12T12:42:07 < Steffanx> Oh kikkel left
2018-02-12T12:42:31 < stvn> he was murdered
2018-02-12T12:53:31 < stvn> the investigation
2018-02-12T12:55:28 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XqyrAgMQVc
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2018-02-12T13:20:36 < kakimir> abck
2018-02-12T13:21:27 < kakimir> englishman, have you come up with stm8 solution for me?
2018-02-12T13:22:02 < Tectu> how does one calculate/deduce a "signal quality level" in percentage from an RSSI?
2018-02-12T13:22:14 < dongs> you make a table
2018-02-12T13:22:37 < Steffanx> Isnt an attiny waay more expensive kakimir ?
2018-02-12T13:22:44 < Steffanx> And avr.
2018-02-12T13:23:14 < kakimir> 0,39 usd @ 5k
2018-02-12T13:23:32 < kakimir> according to microchip
2018-02-12T13:25:06 < kakimir> also assume chinacopy
2018-02-12T13:27:30 < kakimir> https://www.mouser.fi/ProductDetail/STMicroelectronics/STM8S003F3U6TR?qs=sGAEpiMZZMswmUeu4VmiEC3hrIO3iLPQ
2018-02-12T13:27:33 < kakimir> ?
2018-02-12T13:27:50 < kakimir> hase high sink outputs
2018-02-12T13:28:41 < Steffanx> Want to drive leds directly?
2018-02-12T13:28:47 < kakimir> definitelly yes
2018-02-12T13:28:53 < kakimir> VSS maximum 80mA
2018-02-12T13:28:57 < kakimir> nope.exe
2018-02-12T13:29:04 < stvn> fuck
2018-02-12T13:29:16 < kakimir> attiny20 has 200mA
2018-02-12T13:33:59 < Steffanx> What does it do per pin?
2018-02-12T13:34:17 < Steffanx> Watch your language stvn
2018-02-12T13:34:38 < stvn> hi sir
2018-02-12T13:37:08 < kakimir> Steffanx, 20mA abs. max
2018-02-12T13:37:17 < kakimir> attiny hase 40mA abs max
2018-02-12T13:37:38 < Thorn> there are dual bjts in sot-23 and smaller packages that cost next to nothing
2018-02-12T13:39:25 < kakimir> I don't want extra components
2018-02-12T13:41:31 < kakimir> it's possible to use stm8 if I drive leds with +10mA
2018-02-12T13:41:46 < kakimir> or get rid of one led and drive them +15mA
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2018-02-12T13:47:30 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-12T13:47:49 < kakimir> does it hase high current source?
2018-02-12T13:48:07 < kakimir> VDD is rated for 100mA
2018-02-12T13:48:15 < kakimir> it could do
2018-02-12T13:48:29 < kakimir> it talks about high current sinks
2018-02-12T13:50:50 < kakimir> high source current is standard for all the I/O?
2018-02-12T13:51:42 < kakimir> this is the problem with unknown chip
2018-02-12T13:51:57 < kakimir> with attiny you know it has robust I/O
2018-02-12T13:52:47 < kakimir> without looking datasheet you know it will sink and source +20mA with all GPIO
2018-02-12T13:53:10 < dongs> kikemir are you autisming
2018-02-12T13:53:25 < dongs> o6 is idle for > 1 week
2018-02-12T13:53:30 < dongs> and i dont have anyone else on ignore
2018-02-12T13:53:59 < kakimir> did you mean "are you retarded?"
2018-02-12T14:02:27 < willmore> zyp, that was my guess, thanks.
2018-02-12T14:12:55 < Steffanx> Where is ohsix dongs?
2018-02-12T14:13:08 < Steffanx> And where is polymorph?
2018-02-12T14:13:12 < stvn> he works for nasa
2018-02-12T14:13:23 < stvn> i noticed polypump was gone
2018-02-12T14:16:16 < Steffanx> Where is crt?
2018-02-12T14:16:34 < dongs> pumping
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2018-02-12T14:23:13 < stvn> lol
2018-02-12T14:34:20 < kakimir> i just realized I was autisming about stm8
2018-02-12T14:34:56 < kakimir> really irrelevant to try to fit stm8 to project when I had attiny20 already in schematic
2018-02-12T14:35:11 < kakimir> for.. 10-20eurocent difference in price
2018-02-12T14:35:45 < kakimir> the shiet this is connected to costs like 200eur to build
2018-02-12T14:35:54 < dongs> good luck making a new design in 2018 wiht obsolete hardware
2018-02-12T14:36:03 < kakimir> attiny20 obsolete?
2018-02-12T14:36:13 < dongs> atmel shit is so NRND, even microchip doesnt wanna have anything to do with their product line
2018-02-12T14:36:35 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-12T14:36:44 < kakimir> it says in production
2018-02-12T14:36:51 < dongs> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/09/what-is-japans-secret-women-and-technology.html
2018-02-12T14:37:16 < kakimir> now you say I need to start autisming dongs?
2018-02-12T14:37:50 < tomeaton17> The raspberry pi compilation speed is absolutely trash I was spoilt with the odroid
2018-02-12T14:38:03 < karlp> tomeaton17: which pi?
2018-02-12T14:38:09 < dongs> irrelevant which
2018-02-12T14:38:10 < karlp> (and which odroid?!)
2018-02-12T14:38:17 < dongs> they're all garbage
2018-02-12T14:38:20 < karlp> there's a pretty massive difference from pi1 to pi3
2018-02-12T14:38:27 < karlp> and odroid had like 15 boards too
2018-02-12T14:38:42 < karlp> just curious which one was _so_ trash
2018-02-12T14:38:48 < karlp> I wouldn't want to compile on either of them
2018-02-12T14:40:03 < zyp> isn't pi3 like 16 times faster than pi1?
2018-02-12T14:40:41 < zyp> double the MIPS/mhz, double the frequency and four times the cores, or something on that order
2018-02-12T14:40:42 < dongs> 16x of shit is still mostly shit
2018-02-12T14:47:24 < karlp> and two generations newer core too
2018-02-12T14:47:33 < tomeaton17> pi 3
2018-02-12T14:47:46 < tomeaton17> but the 8 cores on the odroid makes it pretty quick
2018-02-12T14:48:21 < willmore> And still running ARMv6 code.
2018-02-12T14:48:59 < willmore> Where the ODROIDS tend to run Ubuntu which use a newer compiler suite that actually makes native code...
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2018-02-12T15:33:24 < englishman> kakimir: stm8 was appropriate until i learned about your current requirements
2018-02-12T15:34:14 < englishman> it can be much smaller especially when you take into account the wider voltage rail at max speed, and programming
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2018-02-12T15:35:06 < englishman> certainly a far superior toolchain with onchip debugging
2018-02-12T15:35:21 < englishman> and it is still half the price of that attiny and much more capable
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2018-02-12T16:08:53 < dongs> <LizardKng> i have a java app that is using a ton of memory.  Do you think it would use more or less if i ran it inside Tomcat or JBoss?
2018-02-12T16:08:58 < dongs> found kikemir
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2018-02-12T16:17:52 < karlp> you're hanging out in fun circles if those are the questions you've having to listen to
2018-02-12T16:21:25 < kakimir> englishman, I need slow speed
2018-02-12T16:21:38 < kakimir> I think even running from 32khz is an option
2018-02-12T16:21:56 < kakimir> I don't need slow speed but there is no benefit running from high speed
2018-02-12T16:22:06 < kakimir> it does one very simple operation
2018-02-12T16:22:21 < kakimir> light the leds according to input condition
2018-02-12T16:30:24 < kakimir> how to calculate black body radiation?
2018-02-12T16:31:34 < BrainDamage> your question makes as much sense as 'how to calculate car'
2018-02-12T16:32:01 < BrainDamage> what part are you interested in
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2018-02-12T16:34:07 < Ultrasauce> I would also like to calculate car please
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2018-02-12T16:40:08 < kakimir> I have 3mm diameter tube
2018-02-12T16:41:59 < kakimir> I want to know how much it radiates at... i found a web calc
2018-02-12T16:51:05 < willmore> Isn't it something like 450ish W/m^2 at 25C?
2018-02-12T16:52:43 < kakimir> I wonder how nichrome wire likes moisture and heating cycling to 1000C
2018-02-12T16:53:35 < kakimir> "corrosion resistant"
2018-02-12T16:53:36 < kakimir> sweet
2018-02-12T16:53:51 < kakimir> I need some ceramic plate material I can bind nichrome to
2018-02-12T16:54:10 < kakimir> cut it like pcb and have a hole for wire to go thru
2018-02-12T16:55:35 < kakimir> asbestos plate?
2018-02-12T16:56:28 < Lux> good luck with heating nichrome wire to 1000°C
2018-02-12T16:57:07 < Lux> on a wild guess i'd expect it to overheat and melt at some point
2018-02-12T16:57:19 < kakimir> controlled ramp up
2018-02-12T16:57:24 < Lux> better use tantalum if you can afford it
2018-02-12T16:57:36 < kakimir> how about kanthal a1?
2018-02-12T16:59:33 < kakimir> how much issue sudden power loss and quick cooling is to resistor wires?
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2018-02-12T17:28:08 < jadew> kakimir, I'd be surprised if anyone here could answer that
2018-02-12T17:28:21 < jadew> it will depend on the alloy anyway
2018-02-12T17:28:25 < kakimir> they know everything..
2018-02-12T17:28:30 < kakimir> everything.
2018-02-12T17:31:17 < jadew> about how much it radiates, it will always be a function of resistance and voltage, because all that heat will have to be dissipated
2018-02-12T17:31:27 < jadew> if you mean how hot it will get, that depends on how fast it can radiate
2018-02-12T17:31:41 < jadew> and that's another property of the material
2018-02-12T17:32:07 < jadew> and given constant current through it, it will tell you how hot the wire will get
2018-02-12T17:33:06 < kakimir> I did the math already
2018-02-12T17:33:11 < jadew> ah, ok
2018-02-12T17:33:32 < kakimir> found that having 3mm tube would require me to put almost kilowatt range power into it
2018-02-12T17:33:55 < kakimir> but having 0.5mm kanhal wire would do
2018-02-12T17:35:24 < kakimir> kilowatt would melt everything
2018-02-12T17:37:15 < jadew> it's been 10 days since DHL are handling the customs for my boards
2018-02-12T17:37:33 < jadew> I dreamt about receiving them last night
2018-02-12T17:39:00 < jadew> * 10 working days
2018-02-12T17:39:02 < jadew> so 2 weeks
2018-02-12T17:40:05 < jadew> so much for fast shipping from China...
2018-02-12T17:43:17 < qyx> my chinadhl was 5 days or so
2018-02-12T17:43:27 < qyx> but I had to pay 24€ for customs
2018-02-12T17:44:40 < kakimir> my chinadhl is tommorow here
2018-02-12T17:44:49 < kakimir> I'll see my proto board
2018-02-12T17:44:59 < Steffanx> Dhl.. when you want to pay import tax. Use DHL.
2018-02-12T17:45:13 < kakimir> import tax.. who cares?
2018-02-12T17:45:25 < Steffanx> + administratioj costs
2018-02-12T17:45:25 < kakimir> micro optimizing
2018-02-12T17:45:32 < kakimir> well that
2018-02-12T17:45:41 < kakimir> is in principle a theft
2018-02-12T17:45:55 < kakimir> you already paid for shipping
2018-02-12T17:46:00 < kakimir> then pay again
2018-02-12T17:46:11 < kakimir> if you want to receive your goods
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2018-02-12T17:46:43 < kakimir> how bad idea is to use underrated LDO with diode series in input to strech VIN range a bit?
2018-02-12T17:46:54 < jadew> I already paid for customs last week
2018-02-12T17:46:58 < kakimir> with zener ofc.
2018-02-12T17:46:59 < karlp> dhl has been in the country for 6 days and not delivered.  ups arrived in country friday and already delivered
2018-02-12T17:47:23 < jadew> UPS is on a completely different level
2018-02-12T17:47:26 < kakimir> here DHL pays customs and sends you a bill afterwards
2018-02-12T17:47:39 < kakimir> like 2weeks later
2018-02-12T17:47:48 < englishman> dhl is awesome, they are 1/10 the price of fedex
2018-02-12T17:47:54 < kakimir> "OH they scammed customs"
2018-02-12T17:48:03 < karlp> englishman: problem is as a receiver, not a sender
2018-02-12T17:48:05 < kakimir> 2weeks later "Damn."
2018-02-12T17:48:09 < englishman> last package i sent to hong kong was $650
2018-02-12T17:48:13 < englishman> with fedex
2018-02-12T17:50:18 < jadew> I paid 30 something pounds for an UPS delivery from UK, 20 kg+
2018-02-12T17:50:25 < jadew> the next day was at my door
2018-02-12T17:50:26 < Steffanx> Here you have to pay at the door, kakimir
2018-02-12T17:51:35 < kakimir> at the door :D
2018-02-12T17:51:39 < kakimir> jesus
2018-02-12T17:51:43 < kakimir> do they take visa?
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2018-02-12T17:52:26 < jadew> anyway, I'll use the regular post from now on, DHL was the only relatively cheap (and presumably fast) option other than regular post
2018-02-12T17:52:45 < jadew> but it seems they take just as much (if not longer) and costs more
2018-02-12T17:52:56 < jadew> in fact, it is longer...
2018-02-12T17:53:02 < blacktronics> heyo
2018-02-12T17:53:05 < jadew> my boards normally arrive by now with the regular post
2018-02-12T17:53:52 < blacktronics> is there a way to configure a timer to run with an unsigned integer?
2018-02-12T17:54:39 < blacktronics> specifically on an STM32F746NG
2018-02-12T17:54:50 < qyx> what
2018-02-12T17:54:59 < qyx> and how is it running?
2018-02-12T17:55:25 < qyx> it is a 16 or 32bit register which wraps around at a configurable value
2018-02-12T17:55:50 < qyx> if you treat it as signed or unsigned doesn't matter
2018-02-12T17:56:00 < blacktronics> it's a 32 bit register that generates an interrupt
2018-02-12T17:56:18 < jadew> https://goo.gl/4AWGvS
2018-02-12T17:57:03 < qyx> yes, the timer may generate several different interrupts
2018-02-12T17:57:04 < blacktronics> the thing is that the autoreload register only accepts an unsigned integer
2018-02-12T17:57:25 < qyx> how so?
2018-02-12T17:57:50 < qyx> I am using 32bit timers/counters with unsigned
2018-02-12T17:58:08 < qyx> which hal do you use?
2018-02-12T17:58:19 < qyx> or how do you assign a value to the ARR?
2018-02-12T17:58:38 < blacktronics> TIM5->ARR = -1800000000;
2018-02-12T17:59:00 < blacktronics> it compiles but it warns me warning: #68-D: integer conversion resulted in a change of sign
2018-02-12T17:59:15 < qyx> -1800000000 is signed afaik
2018-02-12T17:59:32 < qyx> you asked to assign an unsigned int
2018-02-12T17:59:51 < blacktronics> oh year i brainfart
2018-02-12T17:59:57 < blacktronics> yeah*
2018-02-12T18:00:16 < blacktronics> i meant i want to either run the timer in unsigned count or assign a signed int to the autoreload register
2018-02-12T18:00:17 < qyx> so you want to assign a negative value to the ARR register
2018-02-12T18:00:41 < blacktronics> yes
2018-02-12T18:00:57 < qyx> weird
2018-02-12T18:01:08 < qyx> just typecast it, but why do you want that?
2018-02-12T18:01:14 < Cracki> cast it if you want to rely on the wraparound
2018-02-12T18:01:42 < Cracki> you could want that if you wanted it to count up to 0.
2018-02-12T18:07:14 < blacktronics> qyx: using the timer for timekeeping in µs and just counting up an integer
2018-02-12T18:07:21 < blacktronics> every time it wraps
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2018-02-12T18:07:38 < blacktronics> and an hour does fit into the 32bit register, i might be weird for doing it this way but oh well
2018-02-12T18:07:44 < blacktronics> throw rocks at me
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2018-02-12T18:12:40 < qyx> and why are you messing with signed then?
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2018-02-12T18:13:37 < qyx> using a wrapping signed integer is a very weird way for timekeeping
2018-02-12T18:14:23 < blacktronics> i want it ideally to count up to 3,600,000,000 but the timer rolls over before that no?
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2018-02-12T18:15:00 < qyx> no, you can assign 2^32 - 1 to the ARR register
2018-02-12T18:15:20 < karlp> if you have a 32bit timer, which is not all of them.
2018-02-12T18:15:27 < qyx> he said 32bit
2018-02-12T18:15:37 < blacktronics> i do have two 32bit timers available
2018-02-12T18:15:45 < blacktronics> yeah i was not aware i could do that
2018-02-12T18:16:01 < qyx> you should read the timer section in the reference manual
2018-02-12T18:16:14 < blacktronics> when i was messing around without having ARR set it would roll over like an int32
2018-02-12T18:16:47 < karlp> if you were casting the 32bit register to an signed integer, then yes, of course it was behaving like a signed integer.
2018-02-12T18:17:02 < blacktronics> oh fuck i didn't even think of that
2018-02-12T18:17:12 < blacktronics> i was wondering why it would be signed
2018-02-12T18:17:18 < blacktronics> ofc it is not
2018-02-12T18:19:40 < blacktronics> i was using sprintf to format a string on the screen and i just passed it the register, did not even occur to me it was doing the conversion internally
2018-02-12T18:19:56  * karlp giggles
2018-02-12T18:20:07 < karlp> shoulda been using gdb instead of printf maybe ;)
2018-02-12T18:20:11 < qyx> %lu
2018-02-12T18:20:15 < blacktronics> i'll just kill myself
2018-02-12T18:20:16 < qyx> instead of %d
2018-02-12T18:20:43 < qyx> I was very curious why did you use signed integers
2018-02-12T18:20:46 < qyx> now I understand
2018-02-12T18:21:02 < blacktronics> i was confused why the timer would be signed
2018-02-12T18:21:07 < blacktronics> it wasn't.
2018-02-12T18:21:10 < qyx> karlp: nah, printf is gud (tm)
2018-02-12T18:21:22 < karlp> as long as it's printf via ITM0 ;)
2018-02-12T18:25:24 < jpa-> From: SWISS CONSULTANT <info@gmail.com>   Subject: Business Info     My apologies for intruding into your privacy at this time. We have access to investment fund ...         legit [Y / N]?   it's from swiss consultant anyway
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2018-02-12T18:26:50 < blacktronics> thanks for the help guys
2018-02-12T18:27:07 < blacktronics> you saved me from an almost trauma
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2018-02-12T18:27:19 < qyx> unless they have no free money to give away, not legit
2018-02-12T18:28:17 < invzim> swag!  digi-key sent me a pcb ruler
2018-02-12T18:28:25 < invzim> not entierly sure what the use is
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2018-02-12T18:28:55 < qyx> send it to me
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2018-02-12T18:32:41 < qyx> I probably found a poor man conformal coating
2018-02-12T18:33:07 < blacktronics> dip in epoxy?
2018-02-12T18:33:27 < qyx> https://media.takealot.com/covers_tsins/44309221/44309221-1-zoom.jpg
2018-02-12T18:33:40 < blacktronics> oh god
2018-02-12T18:34:16 < qyx> sure
2018-02-12T18:34:32 < blacktronics> >pool electricals
2018-02-12T18:34:44 < blacktronics> sure.
2018-02-12T18:35:42 < blacktronics> i mean, bet it works as conformal coating
2018-02-12T18:35:47 < blacktronics> how much is that?
2018-02-12T18:35:58 < qyx> around 12€
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2018-02-12T18:36:28 < qyx> but it contains xylene
2018-02-12T18:36:40 < blacktronics> epoxy might still be a better option
2018-02-12T18:36:49 < qyx> hopefully it will not dissolve any important parts
2018-02-12T18:37:10 < blacktronics> i paid like 30€ for 3.3kg 2 component GFK epoxy
2018-02-12T18:37:28 < blacktronics> never tried it on electronics though
2018-02-12T18:37:29 < qyx> I am going to try that too
2018-02-12T18:37:32 < blacktronics> might corrode stuff
2018-02-12T18:37:43 < blacktronics> it corroded my cast iron vice
2018-02-12T18:37:51 < qyx> nit this one has a nice black color
2018-02-12T18:38:08 < blacktronics> you can mix pigment in
2018-02-12T18:38:12 < blacktronics> titanium white
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2018-02-12T18:55:13 < Steffanx> Welcome superbia
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2018-02-12T19:01:49 < Steffanx> :)
2018-02-12T19:03:17 < Rob235> I used black and red liquid electrical tape on my drone to get rid of sharp edges on the black/red plastic the wires might rub against
2018-02-12T19:03:49 < Rob235> shoulda just sanded it down :)
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2018-02-12T19:10:48 < qyx> looks like many people are using it to protect their escs and receivers too
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2018-02-12T20:17:28 < Rob235> whats a good method for holding a pen
2018-02-12T20:18:04 < Rob235> I guess either something with a spring or a screw that you tighten
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2018-02-12T20:26:22 < jadew> the screw thing works fine with compasses
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2018-02-12T21:01:42 < jpa-> if you want to be fancy, you could use a collet in a chuck
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2018-02-12T21:05:23 < kakimir> anyone have any idea what that ceramic plate material is inside wire based heaters?
2018-02-12T21:05:37 < kakimir> brown or light brown
2018-02-12T21:05:50 < kakimir> usually keeping wires appart
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2018-02-12T21:13:42 < kakimir> https://i.imgur.com/759v9Vp.mp4
2018-02-12T21:16:51 < jpa-> http://paste.dy.fi/Efi/plain   why my arduino not work :(
2018-02-12T21:18:05 < Ultrasauce> I could take a few shots at unconstructive answers
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2018-02-12T21:21:35 < Steffanx> wannabee arduino jpa-?
2018-02-12T21:24:55 < jpa-> actually just trying out mechaduino which uses the arduino bootloader on atsamd21
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2018-02-12T21:46:49 < Steffanx> y no stm32f0spin jpa-?
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2018-02-12T21:49:34 < Steffanx> *stspin32f0
2018-02-12T21:51:02 < inca> Why would USART2->R = 'Z'; work in one FreeRTOS thread and not another?
2018-02-12T21:53:09 < jpa-> Steffanx: because finding BLDCs with high enough torque is difficult
2018-02-12T21:53:42 < Steffanx> oh it thought it did steppers too, but i guess that's the non-"32" stuff
2018-02-12T21:59:22 < Thorn> inca: either another thread never runs or some other code immediately writes something else into DR
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2018-02-12T22:03:01 < inca> Thorn: I have it toggling a GPIO LED, so I know it is executing. So perhaps DR is getting overwritten. Hmmm...
2018-02-12T22:09:25 < jpa-> hmm, ok, i had to pad the .bin with a few zeros at the end to make openocd correctly write the last few bytes of the bootloader
2018-02-12T22:09:34 < jpa-> i think i've seen that before
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2018-02-12T22:36:40 < Thorn> foo.position = select([func.max(Foo.position) + 1]).where(Foo.bar_id == foo.bar_id)
2018-02-12T22:36:50 < Thorn> did you know you could do that in sqlalchemy
2018-02-12T22:37:21 < Thorn> (the select runs as part of an insert / update, not immediately)
2018-02-12T22:45:17 < Steffanx> It just generates some sql right?
2018-02-12T22:46:12 < englishman> unicode 10 has a curling rock. but brooms will only be introduced in unicode 11
2018-02-12T22:46:14 < englishman> a travesty
2018-02-12T22:47:47 < inca> hmm... FreeRTOS is stack overflowing from a corrupted Task. Nice.
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2018-02-12T22:50:24 < Cracki> moar stack
2018-02-12T22:50:40 < Cracki> search for "high water mark" if you need to debug this
2018-02-12T22:51:15 < Steffanx> Isnt curling the canuck national sport, after ice hockey?
2018-02-12T22:51:55 < Cracki> https://youtu.be/evNi4_2qHPY?t=8
2018-02-12T22:52:04 < englishman> Steffanx: it is neither
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2018-02-12T23:09:43 < kikes> so many projects
2018-02-12T23:09:46 < kikes> at works
2018-02-12T23:09:49 < kikes> so many
2018-02-12T23:10:40 < Steffanx> and there is a time to work and a time to relax kikes
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2018-02-12T23:11:07 < kikes> I'm thinking the possibilities to start new research project
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2018-02-12T23:12:26 < Thorn> Steffanx: normally you would do foo = Foo(); foo.position = 1; Session.add(foo) but sqlalchemy lets you assign an sql expression instead of a simple value (even a select) and it will be properly executed on flush
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2018-02-12T23:18:48 < qyx> dongs: do you have your hdmi->lvds converter somewhere in the interwebs?
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2018-02-12T23:32:56 < Thorn> can anyone see a bug in my code above?
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2018-02-12T23:51:52 < kikes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3O9vNi-dkA dutch favourite hobby Steffanx
2018-02-12T23:52:16 < Steffanx> hah, yes
2018-02-12T23:54:03 < kikes> you do that too?
2018-02-12T23:55:19 < karlp> today's winning command of the day.... "tail /dev/zero"
2018-02-12T23:56:58 < qyx> did you catch the last zero?
2018-02-12T23:58:39 < Steffanx> I did do some ice skating, but .. not like that kikes. Im not sciencing it like that
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2018-02-13T00:03:29 < karlp> qyx: well, it served the purpose, finding a bug in how it behaves when it runs out of memory....
2018-02-13T00:03:36 < karlp> but yeah :)
2018-02-13T00:03:37 < Rob235> another great print at the library, time to head home
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2018-02-13T00:05:01 < kikes> Steffanx, land of thousand channels.. do every dutchman have channel running in their backyard?
2018-02-13T00:11:20 < Steffanx> Lol no
2018-02-13T00:11:50 < Steffanx> You guys have more water and ice for sure kikes
2018-02-13T00:11:58 < Steffanx> You finnishers
2018-02-13T00:13:24 < kikes> look the video at 1:43
2018-02-13T00:14:28 < kikes> an ice wave
2018-02-13T00:15:28 < kikes> if you go fast enought amplitude will rise so that ice breaks
2018-02-13T00:15:29 < karlp> kikes: sundogs is the answer
2018-02-13T00:15:33 < karlp> cool clip though
2018-02-13T00:15:58 < kikes> why dogs?
2018-02-13T00:23:35 < karlp> kikes: að þvi bara? I don't know why they're called that
2018-02-13T00:23:50 < karlp> nice skates that guy has, never seen them randonee style like that, but makes a lot of sense
2018-02-13T00:24:22 < kikes> travel skates
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2018-02-13T01:21:45 < jadew> where's crt when I need him?
2018-02-13T01:22:25 < jadew> I wonder if there are any dedicated solutions for repairing rubber dome keyboards
2018-02-13T01:22:32 < jadew> (not making contact anymore)
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2018-02-13T01:40:08 < jadew> looks like graphite paint might work
2018-02-13T01:54:40 < kikes> 5 dimension dreams
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2018-02-13T02:36:33 < R0b0t1> jadew: How is it broken
2018-02-13T02:36:52 < R0b0t1> Is everything "perfect" but you just don't get contact?
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2018-02-13T02:38:28 < Laurenceb_> shake babby
2018-02-13T02:38:30 < Laurenceb_> how babby shake
2018-02-13T02:38:34 < Laurenceb_> what is babby
2018-02-13T02:38:36 < Laurenceb_> what is shake
2018-02-13T02:40:33 < dongs> qyx, in what sense? i made a few different shits to test but never took any to production
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2018-02-13T02:54:21 < Rob235> oi
2018-02-13T02:57:16 < Laurenceb_> what is shake
2018-02-13T02:57:37 < Laurenceb_> G.U.I. in visual basic will tell us
2018-02-13T02:58:44 < Thorn> why not labview
2018-02-13T02:58:50 < sync> ^
2018-02-13T03:01:25 < Rob235> Came out pretty good but not perfect, might have to reprint with a more solid connection at the split: https://imgur.com/a/A2D6n
2018-02-13T03:01:41 < Rob235> maybe just forget those holes
2018-02-13T03:01:50 < Rob235> stupid placement I guess
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2018-02-13T03:34:51 < Laurenceb_> a shaker, a fucking shaker
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2018-02-13T03:45:24 < dongs> Laurenceb_: wat https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43127.msg1787409#msg1787409
2018-02-13T03:46:24 < Laurenceb_> free scrap metal !
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2018-02-13T05:37:35 < unregisterednick> hi
2018-02-13T05:37:36 < unregisterednick> my samsung laser printer is officially dead now, it probably has a power on hour limit because i did not even print out 3000 pages with it...  leds blink at power on off but nothing else
2018-02-13T05:37:42 < unregisterednick> ;/
2018-02-13T05:37:56 < dongs> does it have a STM32 inside
2018-02-13T05:46:35 < unregisterednick> dongs: damn no :(
2018-02-13T05:46:46 < unregisterednick> it has some arm, but not stm32
2018-02-13T05:47:07 < unregisterednick> and it has 32MB ram
2018-02-13T05:48:21 < unregisterednick> dongs: this is it  https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-ml-2570-printer-monochrome-laser-series/specs/  has a 400 MHz arm
2018-02-13T05:49:13 < unregisterednick> do you think it is possible that only a stepper is dead short in it and it would be fine if i changed it ?
2018-02-13T05:49:28 < unregisterednick> it gives a silent click at start
2018-02-13T05:49:46 < unregisterednick> or the brain is dead
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2018-02-13T07:19:56 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1390681402/koma-d-type-battery-powered-vehicle-jump-starter gooks trolling
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2018-02-13T07:46:24 < dongs> https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/27576709_134792117336008_8750723319860297728_n.jpg
2018-02-13T07:46:27 < dongs> stoners
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2018-02-13T07:59:09 < englishman> lol using D cells to jumpstart a bus
2018-02-13T08:12:16 < dongs> maybe a korean bus
2018-02-13T08:12:22 < dongs> with like 500cc engine
2018-02-13T08:18:32 < dongs> ahahaha this fucking board
2018-02-13T08:18:37 < dongs> has PAM2401 on it
2018-02-13T08:18:42 < dongs> im looking for inductor on pcb
2018-02-13T08:18:44 < dongs> don't see it
2018-02-13T08:18:47 < dongs> look at schematic
2018-02-13T08:18:56 < dongs> 2.2uH Shielded Multilayer Inductor 10mA 1.75 Ohm Max 0402 (1005 Metric)
2018-02-13T08:19:01 < dongs> THIS is what they spec'd for teh inductor
2018-02-13T08:24:20 < qyx> dongs: ah, I hoped you are ebaying them or whatever
2018-02-13T08:24:33 < dongs> qyx, i ahve the dispalyport>ipad shit in my scamshop
2018-02-13T08:25:00 < dongs> or hdmi>ipad shit. but not lvds, not worth it and china is already doing those ugly ass fuck boards for that anyway.
2018-02-13T08:25:38 < qyx> yep
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2018-02-13T08:37:03 < dongs> Just saw someone's tagline on a forum "blockchain lunatic"
2018-02-13T08:37:09 < dongs> translation: I'm a fucking faggot
2018-02-13T08:38:02 < dongs> crt, are you a blockchain lunatic
2018-02-13T08:39:24 < dongs> man where teh fuck is my ragebery pi zero W
2018-02-13T08:39:30 < dongs> jap took like 3 days to post it
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2018-02-13T08:42:22 < dongs> going to blockchain on the rageberry
2018-02-13T08:42:23 < dongs> of course
2018-02-13T08:42:37 < dongs> consulting wiht o6 on how to best
2018-02-13T08:45:01 < dongs> consultation wiht o6?
2018-02-13T09:01:18 < qyx> I am looking for a china alternative to https://b2b.harting.com/files/epim/daten/Archiv/Image/2017/8/31/09990000501/09990000501_L.jpg
2018-02-13T09:01:22 < jpa-> it's a good idea to blockchain the lunatics instead of letting them run free
2018-02-13T09:01:33 < qyx> for less than 600e
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2018-02-13T09:14:18 < jadew> R0b0t1, yeah
2018-02-13T09:14:41 < jadew> it had some liquid damage, there was some black shit over many of the contacts
2018-02-13T09:14:53 < jadew> I cleaned that up with acetone (inhaled half of it)
2018-02-13T09:15:20 < jadew> but some of the keys are still working only if you press hard and long
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2018-02-13T09:23:24 < kikes> how dirty trick you concider using diodes as voltage regulation for LDO with just a little too short VIN?
2018-02-13T09:24:08 < kikes> *just a few volts shy
2018-02-13T09:24:27 < jadew> you mean zener diodes or you mean using the diodes to drop the voltage?
2018-02-13T09:25:27 < kikes> voltage drop
2018-02-13T09:26:14 < jadew> if the source line is already regulated and the result meets your tollerances, sure
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2018-02-13T09:26:59 < jadew> by tollerances I mean the fact that the voltage drop will vary from diode to diode
2018-02-13T09:27:20 < kikes> I need LDO that does +20V VIN and is inexpensive and outputs 150mA
2018-02-13T09:27:31 < jadew> also, if you pass variable currents through the diode, the voltage drop will change as it heats and cools down
2018-02-13T09:27:31 < dongs> LM1117 clone
2018-02-13T09:27:46 < kikes> does it go to +20V?
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2018-02-13T09:29:15 < kikes> whaa
2018-02-13T09:29:20 < kikes> abs. max 20V
2018-02-13T09:29:45 < dongs> then LM317
2018-02-13T09:29:50 < dongs> its got lik 40V max vin
2018-02-13T09:29:59 < jadew> does it have to be a LDO?
2018-02-13T09:30:05 < dongs> of course not
2018-02-13T09:30:11 < dongs> hes obviosuly dropping 20V to like 3.3
2018-02-13T09:30:18 < dongs> the "L" part is not needed
2018-02-13T09:30:26 < jadew> lol, kikes, is that true?
2018-02-13T09:30:36 < jadew> I thought he just wants to drop a volt or two
2018-02-13T09:30:47 < kikes> dongs, true
2018-02-13T09:31:15 < kikes> 20v -> 5V in this case
2018-02-13T09:31:23 < kikes> actually like 18V
2018-02-13T09:31:24 < dongs> right so LM317
2018-02-13T09:31:25 < dongs> done
2018-02-13T09:31:35 < jadew> yeah, plenty of regulators that can do it
2018-02-13T09:31:45 < jadew> are you trying to reduce the BOM cost?
2018-02-13T09:31:54 < dongs> < jadew> are you trying to autism
2018-02-13T09:31:55 < dongs> frfy
2018-02-13T09:31:57 < dongs> er ftfy
2018-02-13T09:32:31 < kikes> cost and size
2018-02-13T09:32:49 < kikes> 1) size 2) cost
2018-02-13T09:32:58 < R0b0t1> jadew: You can buy graphite as a poweder
2018-02-13T09:33:00 < R0b0t1> powder*
2018-02-13T09:33:04 < R0b0t1> For lubrication
2018-02-13T09:33:13 < R0b0t1> Rub some of that on them?
2018-02-13T09:33:14 < jadew> kikes, you do realize that you need like 20 diodes to drop that voltage, right?
2018-02-13T09:33:20 < jadew> hardly a reduction in size
2018-02-13T09:33:38 < kikes> you didn't understand
2018-02-13T09:33:44 < jadew> R0b0t1, I bought graphite paint
2018-02-13T09:33:49 < kikes> I meant if I have like 16V vin ldo
2018-02-13T09:33:56 < dongs> just use a fucking LM317 dude
2018-02-13T09:34:00 < kikes> and 18v max supply
2018-02-13T09:34:12 < jadew> ah
2018-02-13T09:34:23 < jadew> that's still a sloppy solution
2018-02-13T09:34:40 < dongs> https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/s/stmicroelectronics/high-input-volt-85ma-ldo-linear-regulator
2018-02-13T09:34:44 < dongs> there yougo
2018-02-13T09:34:47 < dongs> autistic, expensive solution
2018-02-13T09:34:53 < jadew> R0b0t1, got this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/GUITAR-SHIELDING-KIT-CONDUCTIVE-GRAPHITE-PAINT-COPPER-FOIL-PICKGUARD-SHIELD/181421380317
2018-02-13T09:35:10 < R0b0t1> I'll try to remember to ask how it works
2018-02-13T09:35:24 < R0b0t1> I would do the loose graphite first, they may have been coated in the first place
2018-02-13T09:35:31 < R0b0t1> Could work it into the rubber
2018-02-13T09:35:33 < kikes> I need 100-150mA as I said above dongs
2018-02-13T09:35:59 < dongs> 1) open digikey 2) type in parameters 3) checkbox "in stock" 4) search 5) profit!
2018-02-13T09:36:03 < jadew> R0b0t1, I could use a pencil for that, but I don't think that's a long term solution
2018-02-13T09:36:11 < jadew> I'm afraid it won't stick
2018-02-13T09:36:32 < R0b0t1> It will stick
2018-02-13T09:36:49 < R0b0t1> Since water damage caused them to be nonconductive it seems like that is all that they had on them in the first place
2018-02-13T09:37:05 < R0b0t1> The rubber is supposed to be graphite impregnated but I don't know if they cheap out now or something else
2018-02-13T09:37:17 < R0b0t1> Maybe you can wash the top layer clean enough to be less conductive
2018-02-13T09:37:40 < kikes> dongs, I'm thinking more of chinasourcing.. I can't really ask them atm. what fake ldos are the most common in there
2018-02-13T09:37:54 < kikes> 1117 for sure
2018-02-13T09:38:01 < kikes> 317 - yes
2018-02-13T09:38:23 < dongs> http://www.unisonic.com.tw/product2.asp?BClass=193
2018-02-13T09:38:40 < dongs> oh, i forgot, 78L05 would also work
2018-02-13T09:38:43 < jadew> R0b0t1, I'll keep that in mind, I'm not too eager to paint it, so I'll try the loose graphite first
2018-02-13T09:38:47 < dongs> and its in SOT89 or so pkg
2018-02-13T09:39:36 < kikes> that is nic pack
2018-02-13T09:40:13 < kikes> sot223 (sneer)
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2018-02-13T09:49:16 < c10ud> also some AP2204 or AP7381 I found somewhere on digikey, had extended input range
2018-02-13T09:49:46 < dongs> you can't get more common than 78L05 clones tho
2018-02-13T09:49:53 < dongs> iirc the're like 5c or someshit in singles
2018-02-13T09:50:08 < dongs> and that shit works, i used it on boards up to 25V in to power a STM8
2018-02-13T09:52:09 < kikes> chinachips?
2018-02-13T09:52:28 < dongs> like UTC or whatever china brand
2018-02-13T09:52:30 < dongs> but they're al lsame
2018-02-13T09:52:48 < kikes> is there some variance between manufs. in sot89 pinout?
2018-02-13T09:53:01 < kikes> or generally pinout
2018-02-13T09:53:08 < kikes> in 78 series
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2018-02-13T09:53:30 < dongs> no all same for that model
2018-02-13T09:54:08 < kikes> 1. out 2. gnd 3. in
2018-02-13T09:55:34 < kikes> http://www.unisonic.com.tw/product2.asp?BClass=193 but look at this
2018-02-13T09:56:22 < kikes> 78DXXL
2018-02-13T09:57:02 < dongs> yes, *D*
2018-02-13T09:57:04 < dongs> never seen that anywhere.
2018-02-13T09:57:10 < kikes> okah
2018-02-13T09:57:10 < dongs> stick to common shit and stop autisming
2018-02-13T09:57:42 < kikes> I have actually once had those 78 sot89s that have had diffirent pinouts
2018-02-13T09:58:01 < kOStiX> dongs: you think the cheap brands of the regs will last alike to the origs?
2018-02-13T09:58:59 < kikes> yes
2018-02-13T09:59:04 < kikes> it's fine
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2018-02-13T10:09:03 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwMDvPCGeE0 progress launch
2018-02-13T10:13:38 < dongs> try #2?
2018-02-13T10:14:12 < dongs> why is it fucking buffering
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2018-02-13T10:24:34 < qyx> cool animation
2018-02-13T10:25:04 < zyp> high quality onboard camera
2018-02-13T10:26:38 < dongs> waht';d i miss?
2018-02-13T10:26:44 < dongs> what did onboard acm look like
2018-02-13T10:26:44 < dongs> cam
2018-02-13T10:27:06 < zyp> 1970s tech
2018-02-13T10:27:11 < qyx> like analol from 1980
2018-02-13T10:31:16 < dongs> gawd
2018-02-13T10:31:21 < dongs> so i got my rageberryzero
2018-02-13T10:31:28 < dongs> camera socket sticks outside the pcb
2018-02-13T10:31:30 < dongs> so is SD card
2018-02-13T10:31:32 < dongs> waht the fuck
2018-02-13T10:31:42 < kOStiX> i got one over here aswell
2018-02-13T10:31:45 < kOStiX> havent used it
2018-02-13T10:31:46 < dongs> how do I designed
2018-02-13T10:32:18 < dongs> im gonna make a I2S mic board for it
2018-02-13T10:32:24 < kOStiX> cool
2018-02-13T10:32:32 < kOStiX> id like to code it bare metal
2018-02-13T10:32:38 < dongs> not gonna happen
2018-02-13T10:32:38 < kOStiX> someday
2018-02-13T10:32:40 < dongs> lunix + aids
2018-02-13T10:32:48 < kOStiX> well its possible i think
2018-02-13T10:33:04 < kOStiX> i mean ive read a bit bout it and seems people have done stuff
2018-02-13T10:35:03 < kOStiX> https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi-zero
2018-02-13T10:40:10 < dongs> nothign usable can be done wtho
2018-02-13T10:40:16 < dongs> none of the periperhals are doucmentd etc
2018-02-13T10:42:00 < kOStiX> gotta investigate more bout it all
2018-02-13T10:42:03 < kOStiX> but yeah i see what u mean
2018-02-13T10:45:26 < Steffanx> Yesterday I saw some vid about Japanese Etiquette. Im sure dongs skipped the classes :)
2018-02-13T11:00:46 < Steffanx> Lol crt
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2018-02-13T12:02:35 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV-LRAUZ_AA
2018-02-13T12:28:45 < dongs> crt do you just come here to pump and dump
2018-02-13T12:29:09 < stvn> lol'
2018-02-13T12:30:16 < Steffanx> How fast does abuseshop ship dongs?
2018-02-13T12:30:25 < karlp> tps703
2018-02-13T12:30:30 < dongs> Steffanx: its already shipped?
2018-02-13T12:30:34 < karlp> kikes: that was for you, sorry, was in scrollback
2018-02-13T12:30:36 < Steffanx> Idk.
2018-02-13T12:30:57 < Steffanx> Probably not dongs
2018-02-13T12:31:04 < karlp> dongs suggestion was pretty good too.
2018-02-13T12:34:58 < karlp> qyx: what is that hand tool you linked?
2018-02-13T12:35:22 < dongs> wtf
2018-02-13T12:35:25 < dongs> that is weird
2018-02-13T12:38:25 < qyx> thats for crimping dsub contacts and some harting contacts
2018-02-13T12:38:33 < qyx> and it is very good for coax center pins too
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2018-02-13T12:53:15 < stvn> hi b
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2018-02-13T13:37:58 < kikes> recommend 0603 red led
2018-02-13T13:38:19 < qyx> there are milions in china
2018-02-13T13:38:21 < kikes> good brightness, very red
2018-02-13T13:38:26 < kikes> inexpensives
2018-02-13T13:38:30 < karlp> fuck dude, you keep asking for the most basic shit
2018-02-13T13:38:48 < kikes> sorry
2018-02-13T13:38:59 < jadew> fucking chinese
2018-02-13T13:38:59 < Steffanx> Hah. Trolled?
2018-02-13T13:39:15 < kikes> leds are hard
2018-02-13T13:39:17 < jadew> when you buy a 50 cm cable, they mean 50 cm the whole thing, connectors included
2018-02-13T13:39:30 < jadew> and for GPIB, that's 7.x cm per connector
2018-02-13T13:39:32 < kikes> and slightly under 500mm
2018-02-13T13:39:47 < jadew> kikes, for sure
2018-02-13T13:40:21 < jadew> 49.5
2018-02-13T13:40:57 < jadew> the actual length of the cable is 35 cm
2018-02-13T13:41:12 < qyx> unfortunate
2018-02-13T13:41:59 < dongs> fuucking kikemir
2018-02-13T13:42:06 < dongs> go back to putzing around in kikecad
2018-02-13T13:42:13 < dongs> see if they have a footprint for 0603 led
2018-02-13T13:42:16 < dongs> if not, spend a week making one
2018-02-13T13:43:51 < kikes> I don't undertand this luminous intensity thing
2018-02-13T13:44:01 < kikes> there is 12mcd and 100mcd leds
2018-02-13T13:44:12 < kikes> what is that huge difference in there?
2018-02-13T13:44:59 < kikes> some 60
2018-02-13T13:45:00 < kikes> some 250
2018-02-13T13:45:05 < kikes> all about same price
2018-02-13T13:45:26 < kikes> but still all red leds I have seen look pretty much same with 20mA
2018-02-13T13:45:29 < jpa-> remember that millicandelas is intensity towards the maximum direction
2018-02-13T13:45:40 < kikes> yeah
2018-02-13T13:45:44 < kikes> so it's optics
2018-02-13T13:45:45 < jpa-> so 100mcd at 10 deg angle might equal 12mcd at wider angle
2018-02-13T13:45:55 < kikes> I need narrow angle leds then
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2018-02-13T13:56:32 < kikes> have you tried multisim blue?
2018-02-13T13:56:35 < kikes> is it any good?
2018-02-13T13:56:47 < dongs> autistic software
2018-02-13T13:57:49 < c10ud> how do you expect a low power flyback to cost? (e.g. 100mA output with wide voltage ac/dc input)
2018-02-13T13:58:04 < dongs> ask flyback
2018-02-13T13:58:15 < dongs> unless he died from anus cancer
2018-02-13T13:58:27 < c10ud> these guys expect a sub-10€ project that has something like that plus microcontroller, hall sensor and output circuitry
2018-02-13T13:58:40 < dongs> talking like 200V AC in?
2018-02-13T13:58:54 < c10ud> yeah like 20VDC-230VAC
2018-02-13T13:59:27 < dongs> if you figure that out lemme know
2018-02-13T13:59:41 < c10ud> 1st google result is https://www.ti.com/tool/PMP10098
2018-02-13T13:59:44 < jpa-> such wide input range is problematic, otherwise it'd be pretty much the same as cheap led lamps have
2018-02-13T13:59:51 < zyp> PUMP10098
2018-02-13T14:00:11 < dongs> haha
2018-02-13T14:00:15 < dongs> was JUST going to paste that
2018-02-13T14:00:16 < c10ud> but cheap stuff doesnt have 0-10/4-20mA/RS485 outputs
2018-02-13T14:00:35 < c10ud> I think you'd better have isolation if you want to go past certifications
2018-02-13T14:00:37 < c10ud> :D
2018-02-13T14:00:46 < jpa-> sure
2018-02-13T14:00:58 < jpa-> i'd probably have a separate low-voltage DC input and high-voltage AC input
2018-02-13T14:01:52 < jpa-> https://www.tme.eu/en/details/ameof1-5sjz/acdc-converters/aimtec/   otherwise one could get it cheap enough even as a premade module
2018-02-13T14:02:14 < c10ud> that's what i'd do, provided I can get my hands on el cheapo chinese small transformers
2018-02-13T14:02:49 < jpa-> "pass certifications" "isolation" "el cheapo chinese transformers"   you can't have all three
2018-02-13T14:03:39 < zyp> the xp power shit I used is nice, but I don't think it's particularly cheap
2018-02-13T14:04:05 < jpa-> is this going to be like million units? or do you work for peanuts?
2018-02-13T14:04:43 < zyp> I wonder how much I can actually get that for, the price listed on the invoice I got with the free samples were like a fourth of what digikey wants for it
2018-02-13T14:05:08 < dongs> jpa-: thats neet is there anything ~similar with 1A?
2018-02-13T14:05:10 < karlp> zyp: 1/4 might be starting to be sane, on digikey they're crazy pricy
2018-02-13T14:05:14 < dongs> to do 5V
2018-02-13T14:05:36 < zyp> karlp, that's what I'm thinking too
2018-02-13T14:06:05 < karlp> we're getting more calls tohave our device be self powered instead of split powered, need to look at more options for this again
2018-02-13T14:06:11 < dongs> looks like 3W is max
2018-02-13T14:06:16 < jpa-> dongs: sure, price rises of course https://www.tme.eu/en/katalog/ac-dc-converters_100433/#id_category=100433&s_field=niski_prog&s_order=ASC&visible_params=2%2C10%2C32%2C36%2C317%2C364%2C364%2C365%2C365%2C377%2C430%2C632&used_params=364%3A29979%3B365%3A24600%3B
2018-02-13T14:06:18 < dongs> in that sereies anyway
2018-02-13T14:06:38 < dongs> ah cool
2018-02-13T14:07:36 < c10ud> jpa-, exactly that, that's why I expected a ca. 5€ bom + assembly (quoted to 2 to 3 eur per device)
2018-02-13T14:07:46 < c10ud> and add my margin since I would have to test every device..
2018-02-13T14:07:52 < dongs> oh hah, traco/recom dudes also make same shit
2018-02-13T14:07:54 < c10ud> so that's low already
2018-02-13T14:07:56 < dongs> ok so smallish stuff does exist
2018-02-13T14:08:01 < zyp> heh
2018-02-13T14:08:13 < zyp> did traco buy xp power or something?
2018-02-13T14:08:23 < zyp> https://www.tme.eu/en/Document/d1c9cd5c900987a008a2a0454f3785a2/tmps05-datasheet.pdf <- this looks identical to the xp power thing I got
2018-02-13T14:08:27 < karlp> jpa-: yeah, we've been using separate supply inputs,
2018-02-13T14:08:46 < dongs> is that the shit on your car charger thing?
2018-02-13T14:08:50 < zyp> dongs, yes
2018-02-13T14:09:06 < kikes> dongs, do you know what texas or similar chip sh367005 is based on?
2018-02-13T14:09:12 < zyp> dongs, I mean, I used this: https://www.xppower.com/Portals/0/pdfs/SF_ECE05-10.pdf
2018-02-13T14:09:18 < kikes> I have difficulties to get one because of CNY
2018-02-13T14:09:45 < kikes> so I could resort into orginal ic
2018-02-13T14:09:45 < dongs> efficiency is identical
2018-02-13T14:09:50 < dongs> peak current is a bit higher on traco
2018-02-13T14:10:19 < kikes> sh367005 - 4/5 cell lipo bms
2018-02-13T14:10:28 < zyp> looks like supply pin spacing is a little bit different
2018-02-13T14:16:21 < kikes> okay time to go>
2018-02-13T14:17:43 < dongs> finally
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2018-02-13T14:55:27 < c10ud> dongs, maybe with lnk564pn flyback it can be possible, not sure about 20dc though
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2018-02-13T14:55:52 < c10ud> I should simulate it with their app
2018-02-13T15:09:57 < Lux> jpa-: that stuff might be worth looking at: http://lygte-info.dk/review/Power%20Mains%20to%205V%200.6A%20Hi-Link%20HLK-PM01%20UK.html
2018-02-13T15:17:26 < zyp> hmm, looks nice
2018-02-13T15:17:38 < zyp> 20x34mm
2018-02-13T15:18:01 < zyp> bit longer and narrower than the one I used, but still fairly small
2018-02-13T15:18:36 < zyp> and much cheaper
2018-02-13T15:27:23 < c10ud> how much is it compared to meanwell stuff?
2018-02-13T15:27:57 < karlp> what does meanwell have anywhere near that size?
2018-02-13T15:28:15 < karlp> also did you even try looking at the vendor page? http://www.hlktech.net/product_detail.php?ProId=54
2018-02-13T15:28:35 < c10ud> I didn't see the size I was thiunking about IRM-05-05
2018-02-13T15:28:47 < zyp> you can have this shit from aliexpress for $2.5/ea shipped
2018-02-13T15:28:58 < c10ud> no I didn't, I did now
2018-02-13T15:29:05 < c10ud> nice price
2018-02-13T15:29:19 < zyp> I'm ordering two now just to test
2018-02-13T15:31:17 < zyp> I mean, I ordered the 12V variant
2018-02-13T15:31:18  * karlp waits to hear back
2018-02-13T15:31:52 < zyp> I expect it'll work equally well as the xp power module, question is just if it fits in the design
2018-02-13T15:34:19 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/CjtC8.png <- might be a tight fit between the mounting holes
2018-02-13T15:37:15 < karlp> they're all too big still :|
2018-02-13T15:38:31 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-13T15:39:30 < zyp> unless you're already doing double sided smt, you could put all the smt on the opposite side from the converter
2018-02-13T15:39:47 < zyp> if that fits the enclosure
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2018-02-13T15:43:08 < karlp> eh, just totally different structure to present model.
2018-02-13T15:43:27 < karlp> we're only two units wide at present, with two boards, and isolation with split supplies,
2018-02-13T15:43:46 < karlp> would end up having to totally redesign it, which is kinda on the cards for a future improved version anyway
2018-02-13T15:45:25 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/rsmtz.jpg <- my thing is coming along
2018-02-13T15:45:50 < zyp> waiting for CTs now, so I can actually measure energy with the energy measurement chip
2018-02-13T15:46:23 < zyp> so far I've just tested that register accesses work over spi, I can read default values that seem sane
2018-02-13T15:46:58 < zyp> and I've measure that I got voltage on phase 1, none on 2 and 3
2018-02-13T15:47:55 < zyp> turns out that the datasheet doesn't say how to calculate the gain factors from the external divider factors
2018-02-13T15:48:52 < zyp> the appnote just says to measure voltage externally, divide with the read result, then multiply by current gain factor to find new gain factor
2018-02-13T15:49:13 < zyp> which feels kinda silly
2018-02-13T15:49:26 < karlp> yeah, the calibration methods for these chips tends to be fairly insane.
2018-02-13T15:49:43 < karlp> you're kinda expected to be using some serious test gear to actually set them up.
2018-02-13T15:50:20 < karlp> thankfully.....
2018-02-13T15:50:39  * karlp pats the new calmet cp11
2018-02-13T15:51:24 < zyp> I ran some math on the voltage measurement I got, datasheet mentions a 1.2V reference voltage and adding that factor plus the default gain factor seems to align with a power of two
2018-02-13T15:52:09 < zyp> i.e. I think 1.2V at the input is ADC full scale
2018-02-13T15:55:03 < karlp> yeah, it's normally all just bits as a fraction of adc full scale, and you decdied that with your external dividiers
2018-02-13T15:55:29 < zyp> it's also a bit inconvenient to not have any three-phase circuits at home
2018-02-13T15:56:19 < zyp> tempted to get a three phase circuit to my office installed when I buy a house :p
2018-02-13T15:56:25 < karlp> meh, just wire them all together,
2018-02-13T15:56:48 < karlp> though you're actually expecting balanced loads aren't you?
2018-02-13T15:56:57 < karlp> my stuff is connected to "three" "phases"
2018-02-13T15:57:08 < karlp> which may or may not be remotely balanced in anyway
2018-02-13T15:57:25 < zyp> not necessarily
2018-02-13T15:57:39 < zyp> most EVs have single phase chargers
2018-02-13T15:59:48 < zyp> some have three phase chargers, which technically are three single phase chargers that can also run from a single phase
2018-02-13T16:00:08 < zyp> both tesla and bmw i3 can either charge from 3x16A or 1x32A that way
2018-02-13T16:01:26 < zyp> and the new e-golf apparently has two charger modules, so it can do either 2x16A or 1x32A
2018-02-13T16:03:30 < zyp> so part of what I want to do is detect which phases are loaded
2018-02-13T16:04:12 < karlp> still don't see why you need a three phase supply for testing that.
2018-02-13T16:04:19 < karlp> you just look for usage on a channel
2018-02-13T16:05:31 < zyp> also, part of what I want to do is autodetect phases
2018-02-13T16:05:52 < karlp> heh.
2018-02-13T16:06:13 < karlp> we've tried that a bit, but we can't tell between bad +pf on one phase, and bad -pf on the other
2018-02-13T16:06:28 < englishman> jpa-: i got some 50kmcd leds to put underwater, yes they are bright but they also take 200mA+ at Vf, in a 5mm led, there are a lot of silly led types out there
2018-02-13T16:06:36 < englishman> and by bright i meant directional
2018-02-13T16:07:22 < zyp> karlp, imagine a parking lot with three or six outlets, single phase cars pull from L1 in the connector, so a third of the outlets should have L1 hooked to each phase
2018-02-13T16:08:33 < zyp> I figure I could just look at the voltage zero crossing
2018-02-13T16:09:45 < zyp> shouldn't be any significant phase shift on that, should there?
2018-02-13T16:10:03 < karlp> wouldn't expect so, but what are you going to do with that information?
2018-02-13T16:10:08 < karlp> like, why does it matter?
2018-02-13T16:10:40 < karlp> you're measurement chip will have phase order detection too,
2018-02-13T16:10:50 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-13T16:11:33 < zyp> the point is that when multiple charging outlets are hooked to the same supply, I can sum up the load on each phase from all the outlets
2018-02-13T16:12:11 < karlp> eh, jsut call that setup metadata from install time, make a nice gui for it.
2018-02-13T16:13:00 < zyp> sure, that's what it is
2018-02-13T16:13:13 < zyp> but since I'm able to detect and autofill that, why not?
2018-02-13T16:14:01 < zyp> less manual work -> less chance of fucking up -> less fuckups
2018-02-13T16:20:13 < karlp> I'm just too used to thigns not always being what they say they are,
2018-02-13T16:20:40 < karlp> someone's going to be clever and say, "huh, let's wire these on alternating phases to spread the loads"
2018-02-13T16:20:54 < karlp> and you will see logical phase 1 on all meters, even though it's not.
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2018-02-13T16:34:13 < Laurenceb> suppppp
2018-02-13T16:34:19 < karlp> tha sky
2018-02-13T16:34:37 < Laurenceb> zyp (or anyone): I have a question about usb audio synch
2018-02-13T16:34:42 < zyp> yeah?
2018-02-13T16:35:04 < Laurenceb> so I have usb mems sensors that are synched to SOF
2018-02-13T16:35:36 < Laurenceb> so that means bmAttributes Synch Type set to Synchronous right?
2018-02-13T16:35:56 < Laurenceb> but I can only find examples of IN endpoints on audio class set to "None"
2018-02-13T16:36:18 < Laurenceb> and guy on St forumz said I should use None, which works on on lunix and windoze
2018-02-13T16:36:29 < Laurenceb> so any idea what I should use?
2018-02-13T16:36:41 < zyp> I'd have to look at the spec
2018-02-13T16:36:45 < Laurenceb> https://developer.apple.com/library/content/technotes/tn2274/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/DTS40010116-CH1-TNTAG4_1
2018-02-13T16:36:49 < zyp> I know one of the modes uses a synch endpoint
2018-02-13T16:37:02 < zyp> which I tried experimenting with once, but that didn't work out at all
2018-02-13T16:37:19 < Laurenceb> ^Table 3 suggests I should avoid None, even on IN endpoints
2018-02-13T16:37:41 < Laurenceb> well I read the spec and its not very helpful
2018-02-13T16:37:47 < Laurenceb> no advice to use None tho
2018-02-13T16:38:04 < Laurenceb> I'll try testing it with Synchronous
2018-02-13T16:38:16 < zyp> give me a minute to look
2018-02-13T16:38:32 < Laurenceb> I guess Synchronous is also None, as there is no synch endpoint
2018-02-13T16:38:45 < Laurenceb> but it depends how the OS handles things I guess...
2018-02-13T16:39:05 < Laurenceb>  "None" just gives no info on how the device is synchronised aiui
2018-02-13T16:39:44 < Laurenceb> https://volumio.org/forum/odroid-usb-audio-dac-issues-t5618.html
2018-02-13T16:39:53 < Laurenceb> ^looks like Behringer use None
2018-02-13T16:39:55 < Laurenceb> very confuse
2018-02-13T16:52:41 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/588
2018-02-13T16:53:03 < zyp> usb2 spec doesn't distinguish between synchronous and no synchronization, audio class spec doesn't seem to say anything either, but all examples there are using synchronous
2018-02-13T16:53:06 < Laurenceb> ^ok looks like some devices use Asynchronous for audio IN EP
2018-02-13T16:53:26 < Laurenceb> ok I'll use synchronous
2018-02-13T16:53:41 < zyp> asynchronous and adaptive are completely different beasts
2018-02-13T16:53:42 < Laurenceb> I'm guessing it makes no difference to the OS tho
2018-02-13T16:53:45 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-13T16:54:52 < zyp> I figure synchronous means you'll always send a fixed number of bytes each frame, asynchronous and adaptive means you can vary and you have that feedback mechanism to control it
2018-02-13T16:55:22 < zyp> and no synchronization probably means that the device makes no promises at all on how much data it'll send
2018-02-13T16:55:44 < zyp> I guess for instance if you're transferring compressed data, you don't know how much capacity it'll take
2018-02-13T16:56:15 < Laurenceb> ok
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2018-02-13T17:02:38 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/avivgr/teensy_uvc/wiki/lsusb-output
2018-02-13T17:02:51 < Laurenceb> well usb webcams use Synch Type Synchronous
2018-02-13T17:03:15 < Laurenceb> and if the frame data is aligned to usb frames then its equivalent to my sensors
2018-02-13T17:05:07 < zyp> I think you might be overthinking this
2018-02-13T17:05:14 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-13T17:05:24 < Laurenceb> aha https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=772321
2018-02-13T17:05:46 < Laurenceb> bEndpointAddress     0x84  EP 4 IN        bmAttributes           13          Transfer Type            Isochronous          Synch Type               Synchronous
2018-02-13T17:05:53 < Laurenceb> Synchronous it is then
2018-02-13T17:06:29 < Laurenceb> now I just need to find a condenser mic interface that is the same or I have to faff with resampling madness
2018-02-13T17:07:17 < zyp> all the complexity involved comes if you for some reason want the sink to control the data rate, because then the sink needs to tell the source how fast to supply the data
2018-02-13T17:07:30 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-13T17:07:47 < zyp> in any other case, the source just puts as much data as it has into the buffer for each packet
2018-02-13T17:08:01 < Laurenceb> I might still need to impliment resampling if I want to lock the data to real time :-/
2018-02-13T17:08:06 < Laurenceb> using ntp
2018-02-13T17:08:54 < zyp> just to align timebases?
2018-02-13T17:09:11 < zyp> ah, to align it to real time
2018-02-13T17:09:19 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-13T17:10:04 < zyp> why do you need to do that?
2018-02-13T17:10:23 < Laurenceb> good question...
2018-02-13T17:10:34 < Laurenceb> in case there is third party data
2018-02-13T17:10:48 < Laurenceb> but if there isnt a few seconds drift over a recording session is no issue
2018-02-13T17:10:55 < zyp> how long will each recording be?
2018-02-13T17:11:05 < Laurenceb> up  to 6 hours
2018-02-13T17:12:03 < zyp> hmm
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2018-02-13T17:12:56 < zyp> I have no idea what clocks will be involved and what the accuracy might be, but a typical crystal is like 30ppm and that's half a second over six hours
2018-02-13T17:13:05 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-13T17:13:43 < Laurenceb> I guess the important things are audio, video, gps and mems sensors, unless moar autism gets added
2018-02-13T17:14:01 < Laurenceb> but I doubt <0.5s alignment is needed for the other stuff
2018-02-13T17:14:32 < Laurenceb> a synchronous condenser mic interface would make things simpler though
2018-02-13T17:14:40 < zyp> I'm not sure how shit is usually handled, but AV software needs to handle this shit to keep audio and video in sync
2018-02-13T17:14:48 < zyp> I guess they handle it through resampling
2018-02-13T17:15:04 < Laurenceb> hmm I cant see any resampling in Qt multimedia
2018-02-13T17:15:10 < Laurenceb> interestign question
2018-02-13T17:15:23 < Laurenceb> you just shovel in the data as far as I can see
2018-02-13T17:15:48 < Laurenceb> >tfw this explains awful films with misaligned audio
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2018-02-13T17:54:39 < emeb> lols - got an email out of the blue from some students who were trying to build a board for a class project using an STM32.
2018-02-13T17:55:09 < emeb> Apparently they couldn't get it working so they sent me a schematic & picture of the layout to review.
2018-02-13T17:56:48 < emeb> Issues found: 1) No supply bypass caps. 2) No SWD port hooked up. 3) USB port connected but no 1.5k pullup. 4) No crystal for USB port. 5) BOOT0 switch hooked up wrong.
2018-02-13T17:59:59 < emeb> Sent them a nice list of problems. Hope they get it working.
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2018-02-13T18:49:37 < Steffanx> You are too good for this world, emeb :)
2018-02-13T18:56:54 < englishman> he is, he did not link them to this chat room
2018-02-13T18:58:00 < tomeaton17> Has anybody worked with weigand card readers before?
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2018-02-13T19:06:44 < emeb> haha - sending them here would be like throwing them to the wolves.
2018-02-13T19:06:55 < Laurenceb> le epin trawl
2018-02-13T19:07:21 < emeb> plus - they're just uni. kids - they probably think IRC is for old people.
2018-02-13T19:07:28 < Laurenceb> wtf
2018-02-13T19:07:35 < Laurenceb> university of epic fail?
2018-02-13T19:08:10 < Steffanx> Blaxter Unisversity
2018-02-13T19:08:17 < emeb> Laurenceb: their project was some sort of rocketry thing - had a GPS and a radio chip on it too.
2018-02-13T19:08:19 < Steffanx> University*
2018-02-13T19:08:54 < emeb> I didn't examine the radio part of the schematic closely tho - looked like it was lifted right out of the appnotes.
2018-02-13T19:08:58 < Steffanx> Sounds like rockooning
2018-02-13T19:09:12 < Laurenceb> dey stole muh ideaz
2018-02-13T19:09:32 < emeb> muh ideerz - dey stolez dem
2018-02-13T19:09:52 < Laurenceb> and added some epic fail
2018-02-13T19:11:33 < Laurenceb> my sides
2018-02-13T19:11:50 < Laurenceb> I found a device with synchronous usb mic input
2018-02-13T19:11:57 < emeb> CC1200 radio
2018-02-13T19:12:12 < Laurenceb> the hercules dj console :P
2018-02-13T19:12:31 < emeb> synchronous usb mic? what is that even?
2018-02-13T19:12:52 < Laurenceb> synchronised to usb sof
2018-02-13T19:13:19 < emeb> and the advantage of that is....?
2018-02-13T19:13:33 < Laurenceb> clock wont drift during the recording
2018-02-13T19:14:16 < emeb> so your epic dj musings over the ill trax will be accurately recorded!
2018-02-13T19:14:28 < Laurenceb> ikr
2018-02-13T19:17:41 < Laurenceb> at this rate I will have to build custom board
2018-02-13T19:25:18 < Laurenceb> Even a traffic light can get a gf, why can't you?
2018-02-13T19:25:31 < Laurenceb> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-43046426
2018-02-13T19:30:09 < Laurenceb> lel the super cheap stuff would work
2018-02-13T19:30:11 < Laurenceb> https://www.amazon.de/Sabrent-External-Aluminum-erforderlich-AU-EMAC/dp/B00OJ5AV8I/ie=UTF8
2018-02-13T19:30:56 < Laurenceb> http://lists.hamvoip.org/pipermail/arm-allstar/2016-August/003620.html
2018-02-13T19:31:08 < Laurenceb> maybe I need to just get a phantom power/preamp thingy
2018-02-13T19:32:26 < englishman> emeb, he is using usb audio class to transmit mems sensor data
2018-02-13T19:33:05 < Laurenceb> adaptive out endpoint too, not bad
2018-02-13T19:33:24 < Laurenceb> ironically more useful than the high end Behringer stuff
2018-02-13T19:34:12 < Laurenceb> but now I have to delve into audiophool land to find a preamp
2018-02-13T19:38:21 < Laurenceb> https://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/SubZero-SZ-PPS1-Phantom-Power-Supply/1RLW?origin=product-ads&campaign=PLA+Shop+-+GENERIC&adgroup=GENERIC&medium=vertical_search&network=google&merchant_id=1279443&product_id=82436d1&product_country=GB&product_partition_id=391637903968&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIlpO0orej2QIV6rXtCh3YhQVlEAQYASABEgJKB_D_BwE
2018-02-13T19:38:25 < Laurenceb> >AC18v
2018-02-13T19:38:44 < BrainDamage> need more 12ax7 tubes
2018-02-13T19:39:06 < Laurenceb> freaking audiophools
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2018-02-13T19:46:52 < Laurenceb> I'd rather play the facepunch game https://imgur.com/bEXBNsN
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2018-02-13T20:14:16 < Laurenceb> I'm a gunna break into a nerd's house and steal their GPU
2018-02-13T20:14:41 < Steffanx> Welcome.
2018-02-13T20:15:32 < Steffanx> Ill have a hot chocolate and waffle for you Laurenceb
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2018-02-13T20:31:32 < emeb> Laurenceb: a long time ago zyp and I were looking at some of those usb audio sync issues.
2018-02-13T20:31:45 < emeb> the ST demo code was woefully inadequate.
2018-02-13T20:31:55 < Laurenceb> yeah I've discovered that much
2018-02-13T20:32:09 < sync> Yeah, it sucks
2018-02-13T20:32:10 < Laurenceb> but my sensors are working ok now, after I added internal reclocking
2018-02-13T20:32:36 < Laurenceb> I still dont understand how Qt multimedia is supposed to keep sync...
2018-02-13T20:32:49 < sync> Currently debugging the stuff on the f7 disco
2018-02-13T20:32:57 < sync> Not sure what is wrong
2018-02-13T20:32:59 < emeb> Steffanx: was at a bakery the other day and saw that they were selling blueberry stroopwafel
2018-02-13T20:33:02 < emeb> heresy
2018-02-13T20:33:26 < Steffanx> wut. Absolutely!
2018-02-13T20:33:27 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/tzvbDsbc free codez
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2018-02-13T20:35:03 < emeb> resampling data?
2018-02-13T20:35:12 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-13T20:35:13 < emeb> is that kosher?
2018-02-13T20:35:23 < Laurenceb> cpu clock -> host clock
2018-02-13T20:35:29 < Laurenceb> it works
2018-02-13T20:36:08 < Laurenceb> finxed ST codez https://pastebin.com/RWUGYjss
2018-02-13T20:36:35 < emeb> that crap makes my head hurt
2018-02-13T20:36:41 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-13T20:37:01 < Laurenceb> yeah I cant even remeber what I had to change...
2018-02-13T20:37:10 < emeb> there's a reason why I avoid most USB stuffs
2018-02-13T20:37:16 < Laurenceb> mainly control handler stuff
2018-02-13T20:37:29 < emeb> I played around with ACM serial and some Audio MIDI class stuff a while back
2018-02-13T20:37:44 < emeb> got it working well enough to say "btdt" and haven't touched it since.
2018-02-13T20:38:27 < emeb> amazing thing - some dude has a USB full-speed ACM serial class implemented in Verilog on a low-end Lattice FPGA
2018-02-13T20:38:39 < Laurenceb> woah
2018-02-13T20:38:40 < emeb> uses it to rewrite the configuration flash
2018-02-13T20:39:21 < emeb> https://github.com/tinyfpga/TinyFPGA-Bootloader
2018-02-13T20:49:52 < Steffanx> cool :)
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2018-02-13T20:53:36 < emeb> yeah - very. Some day when I've got some free time I'd like to try that out.
2018-02-13T20:54:48 < Laurenceb> https://www.facebook.com/prochoicenottm/videos/vb.1716902448601794/1743141169311255/?type=2&theater I wonder what preamps they are using
2018-02-13T20:59:49 < Laurenceb> >dat hair
2018-02-13T21:00:15 < Steffanx> Is there anything like icestorm for vhdl yet? I dont want to verilog.
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2018-02-13T21:57:07 < Steffanx>  Good morning superbia and c10ud
2018-02-13T21:57:09 < Steffanx> *crt
2018-02-13T21:58:09 < Steffanx> lol
2018-02-13T22:03:15 < Cracki> what's a decent programmable RPN calc that doesn't look programmable?
2018-02-13T22:03:33 < Cracki> (or do I have to take apart my old 991es and make a new PCB for it...)
2018-02-13T22:03:47 < Cracki> reverse polish, lisp.
2018-02-13T22:03:57 < Cracki> uh, reverse lisp actually. forth.
2018-02-13T22:04:09 < Cracki> 1 2 +
2018-02-13T22:05:13 < Steffanx> Why would i watch such calc?
2018-02-13T22:05:33 < Cracki> because programmable
2018-02-13T22:06:05 < Steffanx> My TI84+ is programmable
2018-02-13T22:06:19 < Cracki> and it looks programmable. it has a big graphics display.
2018-02-13T22:06:53 < Cracki> I'm past it, but there were exams at uni where they only allowed non-programmable calcs... one that looked dumb, but was smart, would have been *nice*
2018-02-13T22:08:00 < BrainDamage> sentences all with reverse polish notation construct lets
2018-02-13T22:08:32 < Cracki> maggy needs braces
2018-02-13T22:08:46 < Cracki> *lisa
2018-02-13T22:09:29 < BrainDamage> why would you want to use rpn?
2018-02-13T22:10:16 < BrainDamage> it's pretty awkward and requires generally to force your brain to know all the problem beforehand to rework it backwards to rpn
2018-02-13T22:10:24 < Cracki> might actually be fun to make a custom replacement PCB for the fx991... it has enough pixels in its matrix display for some funky shit
2018-02-13T22:10:27 < BrainDamage> rather than progressively construct with normal braces
2018-02-13T22:10:43 < Cracki> "intuitive" is not an argument.
2018-02-13T22:11:23 < Cracki> and actually rpn is more natural because you don't have to open all the braces before-hand. you assemble the tree and combine results successively
2018-02-13T22:11:46 < Cracki> ... for a calc.
2018-02-13T22:12:24 < Cracki> expressions might be a bit funkier. however, since you have an actual forth in front of you, the "prompt" is directly programmable. that's not the case for common infix calcs.
2018-02-13T22:12:37 < Cracki> you'd have lambdas and shit
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2018-02-13T22:33:23 < Cracki> the pcb in my 991es is kinda simple. at the top, maybe 100 lines to the lcd. 4 terminals for solar cell and battery. a handful of SMT passives and one bucket cap. front: all the crossed fingers of the buttons
2018-02-13T22:33:47 < Cracki> oh, the back has the obligatory chip under a black blob that does everything
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2018-02-13T22:34:21 < Cracki> there's enough space left within the plastic case for more components
2018-02-13T22:34:33 < kakimir> hello sons
2018-02-13T22:34:48 < Cracki> ave
2018-02-13T22:36:08 < kakimir> how is the innovation?
2018-02-13T23:11:39 < upgrdman> ethernet pros: everything seems to be working fine, but i notice multiple ARP Requests for seeming no reason. https://imgur.com/a/o07vL   any idea why?
2018-02-13T23:12:01 < upgrdman> the mac shows fine in cmd.exe "arp -a" and i can ping find and the pc received udp packets fine.
2018-02-13T23:12:36 < upgrdman> s/find/fine
2018-02-13T23:13:16 < zyp> cute OUI
2018-02-13T23:13:46 < upgrdman> oui?
2018-02-13T23:13:52 < zyp> fe-ff-ff
2018-02-13T23:13:57 < aandrew> mai oui
2018-02-13T23:13:59 < aandrew> sacre bleu
2018-02-13T23:14:09 < upgrdman> is it some special value?
2018-02-13T23:14:16 < upgrdman> thats just what was in some old china firmware
2018-02-13T23:14:33 < zyp> don't think so
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2018-02-13T23:15:20 < zyp> I forgot what the xe-xx-xx space was for though
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2018-02-13T23:29:51 < kakimir> litz wire..
2018-02-13T23:29:53 < kakimir> whaa
2018-02-13T23:33:14 < kakimir> induction cooker
2018-02-13T23:33:59 < kakimir> crt doesn't know how ali works https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2000W-195mm-heat-coil-copper-wire-induction-heating-panel-induction-cooker-accessory/32840735683.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.8.196d62a9xlZLPz&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_10343_10340_10341_10084_10083_10618_10304_10307_10302_5722316_5711215_10313_10059_10534_100031_10629_10103_10626_10625_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,search
2018-02-13T23:33:59 < kakimir> web201603_38,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=579d7f50-f93d-4fbd-b383-3aea118cdfc4-1&algo_pvid=579d7f50-f93d-4fbd-b383-3aea118cdfc4&priceBeautifyAB=0
2018-02-13T23:34:03 < kakimir> oh my
2018-02-13T23:34:19 < kakimir> my meta is leaking
2018-02-13T23:34:20 < upgrdman> lolurl
2018-02-13T23:34:23 < kakimir> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2000W-195mm-heat-coil-copper-wire-induction-heating-panel-induction-cooker-accessory/32840735683.html
2018-02-13T23:34:38 < kakimir> you write a name of object you need
2018-02-13T23:35:03 < kakimir> now I need to know what I could use that for
2018-02-13T23:35:07 < kakimir> so that I could order it
2018-02-13T23:35:30 < kakimir> crt, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2000W-195mm-heat-coil-copper-wire-induction-heating-panel-induction-cooker-accessory/32840735683.html
2018-02-13T23:35:43 < kakimir> litz wire in there
2018-02-13T23:36:16 < kakimir> how about just searching for litz wire in aliexpress
2018-02-13T23:36:24 < kakimir> gives results as well
2018-02-13T23:36:35 < kakimir> what is the problems?
2018-02-13T23:36:48 < kakimir> they make all that shiet there
2018-02-13T23:40:11 < kakimir> system programming with haskell
2018-02-13T23:42:48 < kakimir> try haskell
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2018-02-14T01:07:50 < Laurenceb_> wew
2018-02-14T01:08:04 < Laurenceb_> I triggered ##ascii epically
2018-02-14T01:08:19 < Laurenceb_> inb4 I get b& from ##ascii
2018-02-14T01:09:21 < kakimir> paste
2018-02-14T01:09:39 < kakimir> I'll be judge of that
2018-02-14T01:10:15 < Laurenceb_> I triggered them with 56% memesand they called me a britfag muslim
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2018-02-14T01:10:36 < Laurenceb_> >implying they were wrong
2018-02-14T01:10:49 < kakimir> you arent britfag muslim?
2018-02-14T01:10:59 < kakimir> I have got the whole thing wrong
2018-02-14T01:11:47 < Laurenceb_> إن شاء الله
2018-02-14T01:12:18 < kakimir> pastebin the shiet boi
2018-02-14T01:12:32 < Laurenceb_> nah I'll stop spamming the channel now :P
2018-02-14T01:12:54 < kakimir> since when it has stoped you?
2018-02-14T01:14:07 < kakimir> where did you take train that one night Laurenceb_?
2018-02-14T01:14:31 < Laurenceb_> secret
2018-02-14T01:14:50 < upgrdman> brony convention?
2018-02-14T01:14:57 < Laurenceb_> I'm not letting everyone know which brothels I like to visit and where I score drugs
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2018-02-14T01:41:00 < Laurenceb_> cryoeugenics
2018-02-14T01:44:02 < BrainDamage> you could turn it into a paper
2018-02-14T01:44:29 < BrainDamage> skip to the methods http://jech.bmj.com/content/early/2018/01/12/jech-2017-209943
2018-02-14T01:44:47 < Laurenceb_> https://menssheds.org.uk/
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2018-02-14T02:13:29 < Laurenceb_>  "pachinko parlours"
2018-02-14T02:13:33 < Laurenceb_> r-right
2018-02-14T02:13:56 < Laurenceb_>  " instant stress relief and pleasure"
2018-02-14T02:15:25 < Laurenceb_> NEET memes are real
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2018-02-14T03:17:38 < Laurenceb_> hmf I need to go full audiophool
2018-02-14T03:17:57 < Laurenceb_> latest requirement is 4x condenser mics
2018-02-14T03:18:05 < Laurenceb_> this is going to be a pita
2018-02-14T03:18:13 < dongs> I2S mic on rageberrypi is what im doing
2018-02-14T03:18:23 < Laurenceb_> heh one way
2018-02-14T03:18:37 < Laurenceb_> maya44 looks ok
2018-02-14T03:18:52 < Laurenceb_> http://www.esi-audio.com/products/maya44usb+/
2018-02-14T03:19:08 < ds2> 4 mics?
2018-02-14T03:19:23 < Laurenceb_> but I need 4x 48v phantom power + amplifiers to get <20dBA into -10dBV inputs
2018-02-14T03:19:23 < ds2> does rageberrypi support TDM mode?
2018-02-14T03:19:24 < Laurenceb_> yeah
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2018-02-14T03:19:46 < Laurenceb_> I need to get very accurate SPL values across the frequency range :S
2018-02-14T03:19:52 < ds2> do all 4 need to be time synced?
2018-02-14T03:20:17 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-14T03:20:34 < ds2> I2S won't work
2018-02-14T03:21:18 < Laurenceb_> that maya44 thing is 4channel and synchronous sample timing
2018-02-14T03:21:34 < Laurenceb_> but I need a 4channel _amp_ not _pre_amp
2018-02-14T03:22:23 < Laurenceb_> maybe custom pcb lol
2018-02-14T03:22:53 < ds2> wonder if it is a standard USB audio device
2018-02-14T03:22:55 < Laurenceb_> condenser mics have really good linearity and frequency response but need a lot of amplification
2018-02-14T03:22:59 < ds2> didn't think that supports 4 channels
2018-02-14T03:23:08 < Laurenceb_> Behringer make some stuff that would work
2018-02-14T03:23:43 < Laurenceb_> but they think its "pro" to have built in xtal clock, so asynchronous rather than synchronous
2018-02-14T03:25:53 < Laurenceb_> as I have ~unlimited budget I could use behringer but it'd need reclocking in software
2018-02-14T03:30:28 < Laurenceb_> heh this thing is just showing off
2018-02-14T03:30:30 < Laurenceb_> http://www.esi-audio.com/products/u168xt/
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2018-02-14T05:15:39 < branjb> table coming along nicely https://imgur.com/a/qpFve
2018-02-14T05:27:22 < aandrew> branjb: wow nice
2018-02-14T05:27:28 < aandrew> what are you using for rails?
2018-02-14T05:27:43 < Rob235> what are the rails for
2018-02-14T05:27:54 < dongs> yeah that was my question
2018-02-14T05:27:57 < dongs> what the fuck is that whoel table for
2018-02-14T05:28:09 < branjb> they are aluminum extrusion T slots from orange aluminum
2018-02-14T05:28:12 < branjb> it's for a CNC router
2018-02-14T05:28:21 < branjb> T rails to clamp material down
2018-02-14T05:28:51 < dongs> https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker?sku=968302018
2018-02-14T05:28:53 < branjb> https://www.orangealuminum.com/index.php/t-slot-framing-systems-and-tracks/t-track.html?cut_length=855
2018-02-14T05:32:05 < aandrew> dongs: wtf is that
2018-02-14T05:32:27 < dongs> something they clearly thought would sell at $20 but didn't so is now $1
2018-02-14T05:33:07 < dongs> punch in your zipcode and see
2018-02-14T05:33:31 < dongs> and the qtys
2018-02-14T05:34:13 < dongs> i think it was some AR/VR trash for ifaggots
2018-02-14T05:37:58 < aandrew> ok so it's a cube that a phone can calculate it's position and orientation
2018-02-14T05:38:00 < aandrew> wtf
2018-02-14T05:44:40 < branjb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR8TcZ07EAM
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2018-02-14T05:53:26 < Rob235> if this pen holder works I'll be amazed: https://imgur.com/a/KrfZT
2018-02-14T05:53:39 < dongs> branjb: lol'd
2018-02-14T05:53:53 < branjb> I love curling
2018-02-14T05:53:59 < branjb> watched it every night so far
2018-02-14T05:58:19 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPnoUI7D2sE typical japanese vlogger
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2018-02-14T06:46:39 < aandrew> how fast can I access FMC on F7?
2018-02-14T06:48:06 < aandrew> looks like AHB clock, although no more than 16 bits at a time
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2018-02-14T06:54:38 < aandrew> you fuckers can't all be asleep
2018-02-14T06:58:52 < dongs> cocks
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2018-02-14T07:16:53 < jesseg> uh huh
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2018-02-14T07:30:12 < dongs> https://www.instagram.com/p/BfJXU27lFKy/ is it a requirement for "sports illustrated" "models" to be dumb as fuck?
2018-02-14T07:30:34 < dongs> I mean the answer is obviously yes but fucking lol @ that video. she looks dumber than teh rock shes standing on
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2018-02-14T07:43:06 < englishman> branjb: curling is the fucking best 🥌🥌🥌
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2018-02-14T08:49:47 < aandrew> wow I used most of the pins on that 176 ball BGA
2018-02-14T08:49:58 < aandrew> and all of them on the FPGA it's wired to
2018-02-14T08:50:10 < dongs> balllllllllllllllllllls
2018-02-14T08:51:08 < aandrew> FPGA talks to gigabit phy and sdram, stm32 has FMC and RGMII to fpga
2018-02-14T08:51:21 < dongs> field programmable dongs ARRAY
2018-02-14T08:51:26 < dongs> get your definitions straight
2018-02-14T08:51:31 < dongs> you want many dongs in array.
2018-02-14T08:51:50 < aandrew> I'm happy with just my own dong
2018-02-14T08:51:56 < aandrew> an array just leads to confusion
2018-02-14T08:52:38 < aandrew> I was gonna wire up the USB HS interface but that's probably a bit much
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2018-02-14T09:07:01 < aandrew> there we go, added ULPI
2018-02-14T09:08:25 < dongs> pakilancer.com
2018-02-14T09:08:55 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/iot-internet-things-circuit-design-16294421/
2018-02-14T09:10:27 < aandrew> me?
2018-02-14T09:10:41 < aandrew> muscles?
2018-02-14T09:11:06 < aandrew> rate's usually around US125
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2018-02-14T10:19:35 < zyp> aandrew, which stm32 has RGMII?
2018-02-14T10:23:29 < jadew> lol dongs
2018-02-14T10:23:53 < jadew> love the indian's guy bid
2018-02-14T10:24:16 < jadew> also, I wonder what's with the region requirements
2018-02-14T10:26:44 < jadew> I want to get a new oven to eventually convert into a reflow oven, any tips?
2018-02-14T10:27:00 < jadew> (I won't use it with a controller at first, cuz I don't have the time to build one just yet)
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2018-02-14T10:31:23 < Steffanx> Get a random one with top and bottom heater?
2018-02-14T10:31:52 < jadew> yeah, but I think there's more to it
2018-02-14T10:32:05 < jadew> for example, I'd like one I can forcefully vent
2018-02-14T10:32:19 < Steffanx> Open the door :D
2018-02-14T10:32:28 < jadew> heh
2018-02-14T10:32:35 < jadew> yeah, but I mean once I make the controller
2018-02-14T10:33:07 < jadew> also, from what I've seen other people add extra insulation
2018-02-14T10:33:24 < jadew> I assume that's because they can't heat up fast enough?
2018-02-14T10:33:30 < zyp> if you just want a reflow oven, not a project, just buy some shit from china
2018-02-14T10:33:58 < Steffanx> Waffles arrived in theepotland crt
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2018-02-14T10:34:09 < jadew> zyp, I placed an order on one of those chinese reflow ovens only to ask the buyer to cancel it after reading reports of them using asbestos for insulation
2018-02-14T10:34:32 < jadew> aparently the manufacturer even admitted to that
2018-02-14T10:35:09 < jadew> so, my only option seems to be a kitchen oven
2018-02-14T10:35:20 < jadew> cuz I don't have the money for a proper reflow oven
2018-02-14T10:37:20 < jadew> zyp: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/best-853a-is-this-asbestos-inside/msg57405/#msg57405
2018-02-14T10:37:23 < zyp> jadew, which model?
2018-02-14T10:37:31 < jadew> the T962A
2018-02-14T10:40:47 < jadew> crt, ebay, but canceled the order after reading that + several other people raising that concern
2018-02-14T10:40:51 < zyp> jadew, hmm, mine looked like it had normal glass wool
2018-02-14T10:41:02 < zyp> but idk
2018-02-14T10:41:15 < jadew> zyp, it's possible it's glass wool, for sure
2018-02-14T10:41:36 < jadew> was it shiny?
2018-02-14T10:41:45 < jadew> I've read that glass wool should be shiny
2018-02-14T10:41:50 < jadew> vs asbestos, which it isn't
2018-02-14T10:41:52 < zyp> don't remember
2018-02-14T10:42:18 < jadew> also, I think glass wool should melt if you burn it with a lighter
2018-02-14T10:42:55 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et5BhSMlLqg
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2018-02-14T10:43:05 < jadew> zyp, read the last message in the first thread on that video
2018-02-14T10:43:19 < jadew> the guy that says he tried the burn test
2018-02-14T10:43:31 < jadew> again, not definite that it's asbestos, but doesn't seem to be fiberglass
2018-02-14T10:45:15 < R0b0t1> Does anyone know where the CDC ACM specification is
2018-02-14T10:45:26 < R0b0t1> I found the CDC standards documents, but there is no mention of ACM
2018-02-14T10:45:32 < R0b0t1> i.e. serial port emulation
2018-02-14T10:45:49 < zyp> the ACM subclass has its own document
2018-02-14T10:45:53 < R0b0t1> The ACM stands for "abstract" so is CDC ACM just using CDC with no further specification?
2018-02-14T10:46:02 < R0b0t1> Where is it, zyp?
2018-02-14T10:46:16 < R0b0t1> I found ones for telephony and network transfers, but no ACM
2018-02-14T10:46:31 < zyp> ACM is one of the telephony subclasses
2018-02-14T10:46:40 < R0b0t1> http://www.usb.org/developers/docs/devclass_docs/
2018-02-14T10:47:11 < zyp> PSTN120.pdf
2018-02-14T10:47:15 < zyp> in the CDC zip
2018-02-14T10:47:48 < R0b0t1> Thank you zyp
2018-02-14T10:47:53 < R0b0t1> Why is it in that class, I wonder.
2018-02-14T10:48:10 < R0b0t1> Seems like it would fit in the one for DSL modems
2018-02-14T10:49:01 < zyp> uh, because the point of ACM is to enable USB-connected PSTN modems, that would otherwise be serial
2018-02-14T10:50:36 < R0b0t1> That isn't a compelling argument
2018-02-14T10:50:44 < R0b0t1> PPP and ADSL are just really high speed serial links
2018-02-14T10:50:52 < zyp> there's some other control models in there as well that has explicit USB commands for controlling the modem, and then there's the abstract control model that keeps all modem control inband and thus acts as a plain serial port
2018-02-14T10:51:12 < zyp> uh
2018-02-14T10:51:31 < zyp> ADSL is usually PPPoE, not PPP over serial
2018-02-14T10:52:01 < zyp> serial is way too slow for DSL speeds
2018-02-14T10:52:06 < R0b0t1> Yes, it's PPPoE over serial
2018-02-14T10:52:11 < R0b0t1> That's the physical transport
2018-02-14T10:52:23 < R0b0t1> A really fast serial link
2018-02-14T10:52:24 < zyp> you do know what PPPoE stands for?
2018-02-14T10:52:40 < R0b0t1> PPP over Ethernet?
2018-02-14T10:52:43 < zyp> yes
2018-02-14T10:52:53 < R0b0t1> How does that change anything?
2018-02-14T10:52:58 < R0b0t1> It's going over coax, not an ethernet cable
2018-02-14T10:53:13 < R0b0t1> The physical interface to that coax is... a very fast serial link
2018-02-14T10:54:18 < zyp> R0b0t1, anything is serial if you think of it like that, when I said serial I referred to RS232
2018-02-14T10:55:36 < R0b0t1> Some things aren't simply serial, like Ethernet, with multiple signal lines
2018-02-14T10:55:54 < R0b0t1> But I think it brings up an important point: many of these transports are so similar, why did they keep creating new ones?
2018-02-14T10:55:55 < jadew> actually ethernet is serial
2018-02-14T10:56:07 < jadew> at least the < 1 Gbps type
2018-02-14T10:56:14 < jadew> I think for higher bandwidths you need multiple data lines
2018-02-14T10:56:26 < R0b0t1> jadew: Yes and no, but my point is the distinction is mostly arbitrary
2018-02-14T10:56:27 < jadew> but for < 1 Gbps, bits get sent one by one
2018-02-14T10:56:29 < jadew> which is what serial is
2018-02-14T10:56:35 < R0b0t1> Like is using multiple SERDES units really serial communication?
2018-02-14T10:56:47 < jadew> once you are sending multiple bits at once, it's not serial anymore
2018-02-14T10:57:45 < R0b0t1> My apologies, I'm just kind of jaded
2018-02-14T10:57:47 < jadew> R0b0t1, the part which sends bits one by one is serial
2018-02-14T10:58:09 < R0b0t1> I realized while looking at the USB spec the other day that USB didn't really help the situation w.r.t. drivers and compatibility
2018-02-14T10:58:18 < R0b0t1> Before USB you still had drivers which forwarded all communication to userspace
2018-02-14T10:58:22 < R0b0t1> Now, exact same thing
2018-02-14T10:58:41 < jadew> USB HID doesn't need drivers I think?
2018-02-14T10:58:49 < R0b0t1> It does and doesn't
2018-02-14T10:58:54 < jadew> I mean, you have a single driver, no?
2018-02-14T10:58:57 < zyp> it doesn't really make sense to classify whole protocols as serial or not, especially not when they are layered and have a ton of different medium layers
2018-02-14T10:59:23 < jadew> zyp, I think you can classify them from various perspectives
2018-02-14T10:59:33 < jadew> probably the user perspective is the best
2018-02-14T10:59:38 < R0b0t1> No, you can register drivers for unrecognized HID devices, if you want, but at least Windows just lets you access HID data in a pretty raw format if the device isn't say a mouse or keyboard
2018-02-14T10:59:50 < jadew> you put multiple bits in it at once - it's parallel
2018-02-14T11:00:00 < R0b0t1> Just because there's a usage for a specific thing doesn't mean it means something to the OS
2018-02-14T11:00:16 < jadew> actually, I don't think that would work either
2018-02-14T11:00:55 < R0b0t1> zyp: I agree, but that is what these protocols seem to have tried to do, but then failed to do because it became arbitrary at some point
2018-02-14T11:01:11 < zyp> R0b0t1, tried to do what? define what is serial or not?
2018-02-14T11:01:45 < R0b0t1> Yes, by classifying things into arbitrary groups.
2018-02-14T11:02:08 < R0b0t1> Like why is CDC ACM nested in the specification for telephony services? The only point of serial ports is not to connect to modems
2018-02-14T11:02:18 < jadew> I think serial/parallel only makes sense when you're talking about the hardware layer
2018-02-14T11:02:32 < jadew> so I was wrong earlier, you can't characterize them from the user's point of view
2018-02-14T11:02:36 < jadew> it's all about the hardware
2018-02-14T11:02:39 < R0b0t1> I need to sleep, thank you for the conversation
2018-02-14T11:02:44 < jadew> night
2018-02-14T11:02:49 < zyp> R0b0t1, but ACM is a protocol to connect to modems, being able to use it for other things is just a coincidence
2018-02-14T11:03:20 < jadew> I'm off to find an oven
2018-02-14T11:03:24 < zyp> jadew, and it's all utterly irrelevant
2018-02-14T11:03:27 < R0b0t1> zyp: Either way it's spun, it's lack of foresight
2018-02-14T11:03:36 < zyp> R0b0t1, by who?
2018-02-14T11:03:58 < R0b0t1> USB forum
2018-02-14T11:04:00 < jadew> zyp, in the sense that it doesn't matter to anyone but the people building it? If yes, I agree.
2018-02-14T11:04:42 < zyp> jadew, fwiw, I've got serial ethernet at home
2018-02-14T11:04:46 < jadew> *building things that work direcly with it
2018-02-14T11:04:52 < jadew> zyp, me too
2018-02-14T11:05:18 < jadew> btw, I don't know what you guys were talking about
2018-02-14T11:05:25 < zyp> there's only one bit sent over the fiber at a time, and the SFI interface for the fiber transceiver has a single differential pair for each direction
2018-02-14T11:05:45 < jadew> I think there may be more bits sent over fiber tho
2018-02-14T11:06:01 < jadew> because you can send/detect multiple wavelengths of light
2018-02-14T11:06:06 < jadew> and different polarizations
2018-02-14T11:06:22 < jadew> fiber is more like radio than ethernet
2018-02-14T11:06:47 < jadew> depends on the quality of the transcievers tho
2018-02-14T11:06:51 < zyp> to be specific, it's 10GBASE-SR on the fiber, there's only one wavelength involved
2018-02-14T11:06:52 < jadew> probably the cheapest ones are serial
2018-02-14T11:07:42 < zyp> when you start talking multiple wavelengths, it's usually independent streams over the same physical strand
2018-02-14T11:07:43 < jadew> I'm really not sure what you were discussing tho - what was the issue?
2018-02-14T11:07:51 < zyp> I'm not sure either
2018-02-14T11:07:58 < jadew> heh
2018-02-14T11:08:05 < jadew> so just clarification of terms
2018-02-14T11:08:45 < jadew> well, each individual bit is sent by itself, sure, but the fact that you can send multiple bits of the same data at the same time, makes anything does that parallel
2018-02-14T11:09:02 < jadew> that's the only distinction between serial and parallel
2018-02-14T11:09:13 < jadew> two bits going off at the same time
2018-02-14T11:09:17 < zyp> R0b0t1 was complaining that he couldn't understand why a USB subclass that's emulating RS232 would be a part of the "talking to PSTN modems" part of CDC, and then it all got offtrack from there
2018-02-14T11:09:37 < jadew> ah
2018-02-14T11:11:34 < jadew> any ideas if there are fans that can withstand soldering temperatures?
2018-02-14T11:12:04 < jadew> or... how is that done? how do convection ovens stir the air?
2018-02-14T11:13:04 < Steffanx> Afaik ours is just a large fan of some metal
2018-02-14T11:14:04 < jadew> superbia, I think those engines are stirring cold air
2018-02-14T11:14:18 < jadew> they're compressing it first then passing it to the combustion chainber
2018-02-14T11:14:24 < jadew> where it gets exploded
2018-02-14T11:15:14 < jadew> probably not room temperature, but I doubt they're at the exhaust temperature
2018-02-14T11:15:47 < jadew> Steffanx, thanks
2018-02-14T11:15:49 < Steffanx> Just add two valves and never let to hot air get to the fan, jadew
2018-02-14T11:16:00 < Steffanx> Not sure if such valves are easier to get :P
2018-02-14T11:16:28 < jadew> Steffanx, I was thinking about the vales too, but yeah, good point, probably not easy to get either
2018-02-14T11:16:38 < Steffanx> But when its all on the outsode it gets less hot.
2018-02-14T11:16:43 < Steffanx> Outside*
2018-02-14T11:17:21 < Steffanx> Nah not really :P
2018-02-14T11:17:42 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, I'm also wondering about what kind of hose to use to vent the nasty fumes out the window
2018-02-14T11:17:56 < dongs> damn
2018-02-14T11:17:59 < dongs> hobbyking doesnt fuck around
2018-02-14T11:18:02 < Steffanx> But wouldnt opening the door and blow in some air would do?
2018-02-14T11:18:08 < dongs> ordered some lipos to replace my exploded shit this afternoon
2018-02-14T11:18:13 < dongs> just got shipping notification
2018-02-14T11:18:17 < dongs> like ~5 hours alter
2018-02-14T11:18:32 < jadew> Steffanx, sure, but that means you have to keep an eye on things all the time
2018-02-14T11:18:51 < Steffanx> Abuseshop is much slower. Ordered like 1.5 days ago and still no shipping info. Dongs :p
2018-02-14T11:18:55 < jadew> I've scorched boards before and I'd like to avoid that
2018-02-14T11:19:15 < dongs> Steffanx: the fuck are you talking about
2018-02-14T11:19:20 < dongs> it was shipped and you ahve email
2018-02-14T11:19:21 < jadew> superbia, that pic looks like what I just said
2018-02-14T11:19:24 < dongs> or go look in the site
2018-02-14T11:19:27 < dongs> in order status
2018-02-14T11:19:40 < dongs> it probably left japan already.
2018-02-14T11:19:42 < jadew> some sort of rotary piston
2018-02-14T11:20:10 < Steffanx> Wut. I see no mail. Must be spammed
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2018-02-14T11:20:47 < dongs> blame crt
2018-02-14T11:20:53 < Steffanx> I guess
2018-02-14T11:21:13 < Steffanx> Ty dongs
2018-02-14T11:21:55 < stvn> well hello
2018-02-14T11:22:04 < jadew> I'm off to find an oven
2018-02-14T11:22:05 < jadew> ttyl
2018-02-14T11:22:32 < dongs> you gonna gas yourself?
2018-02-14T11:22:34 < dongs> good plan
2018-02-14T11:23:24 < stvn> lol
2018-02-14T11:23:28 < stvn> judew much
2018-02-14T11:23:35 < dongs> pretty much
2018-02-14T11:23:41 < stvn> shiiiit son
2018-02-14T11:25:17 < stvn> idk what to do with that superbia
2018-02-14T11:25:37 < Steffanx> And spam it was. Obviously.
2018-02-14T11:26:16 < kakimir> I would like to build a transient generator
2018-02-14T11:26:19 < stvn> it is a conspiracy
2018-02-14T11:26:32 < stvn> oop doesn't like my brain
2018-02-14T11:26:56 < stvn> my c# related tasks are on the backburner
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2018-02-14T11:28:36 < fest> has anyone seen temperature(?) effect on accel/gyro like this: https://imgur.com/a/A6gCc (specifically, the peaks in accelerometer readings in the beginning and middle- DUT is stationary for the whole test and the peaks last several seconds)
2018-02-14T11:29:05 < dongs> definitely not
2018-02-14T11:29:19 < dongs> there's hysteresis on heatup/cooldown but ive never seen it non-linearly/weirdly affect like that
2018-02-14T11:29:32 < dongs> is your board/enclossure contracting and causing motion?
2018-02-14T11:29:38 < dongs>  / expanding
2018-02-14T11:30:13 < dongs> whats the temperature rise/fall rate there?
2018-02-14T11:30:18 < dongs> you have all the timestamps but no temperature
2018-02-14T11:30:22 < dongs> or wait lower left
2018-02-14T11:30:28 < dongs> 20 to 60?
2018-02-14T11:30:40 < fest> approx 0 to 60
2018-02-14T11:31:10 < dongs> and this is repeatable?
2018-02-14T11:31:15 < dongs> does it happen on cooldown, 60 to 20?
2018-02-14T11:31:19 < dongs> er 60 to 0 or wahtever
2018-02-14T11:31:35 < fest> yep, repeated the test 3 times
2018-02-14T11:31:39 < dongs> if its not repeatable i say some cuck bumped the desk
2018-02-14T11:31:49 < stvn> SIBA fuse still made in germany
2018-02-14T11:31:59 < fest> cooldown is a bit trickier to measure, since I basically freeze the device and place it in sauna
2018-02-14T11:32:04 < stvn> even the cheap <$1 ones
2018-02-14T11:32:32 < fest> I too suspected board expansion on the previous revision, so this revision looks like this: https://imgur.com/a/K0JUE
2018-02-14T11:32:46 < kakimir> I need to communicate in DC power line
2018-02-14T11:32:56 < kakimir> 18V DC
2018-02-14T11:33:00 < fest> time to swap the DC-DC on IMU board for an LDO
2018-02-14T11:33:07 < kakimir> any nice tricks for that?
2018-02-14T11:33:34 < fest> and try to reproduce the tests with IMU outside case
2018-02-14T11:33:38 < kakimir> I think I might use a flyback transformer or so
2018-02-14T11:33:50 < stvn> wut
2018-02-14T11:34:00 < dongs> fest: oh, dc/dc is powering stuff directly?
2018-02-14T11:34:06 < dongs> yeah... i'd try with a linear reg first
2018-02-14T11:34:27 < dongs> i wonder if dc/dc is switching some mode to another as temperature changes
2018-02-14T11:34:31 < dongs> likw PFM/whatever teh fuck
2018-02-14T11:34:36 < dongs> and it causes mroe noise
2018-02-14T11:34:42 < fest> yep, or it's frequency is changing
2018-02-14T11:35:05 < dongs> all my imu trolling has been powered through linear regs
2018-02-14T11:35:12 < dongs> even if Vin was high, dc/dc first then linear to 3.3V
2018-02-14T11:35:27 < fest> it's even better: there's one DC-DC from battery to 12V and the second on a separate IMU board to 3.3V
2018-02-14T11:35:44 < stvn> hmmm
2018-02-14T11:35:56 < stvn> so dc-dc then LDO ey
2018-02-14T11:42:38 < fest> in a previous project there were two more IMU fuckups: I was trying to temp-calibrate gyro offset seperately from the rest of the system  (basically an array of sensors placed in temp chamber). First one, if more than one IMU on panel was powered on, it affected the readings of other IMUs on board (presumably, vibration from one MEMS structure was
2018-02-14T11:42:38 < fest> mechanically coupled via PCB to MEMS structure on other sensors). That was easily solved by powering them one at a time
2018-02-14T11:43:00 < fest> second, there was an FPC connector (https://3.imimg.com/data3/TO/RW/MY-9593126/fpc-connectors-250x250.jpg) on the back side of the board, right under IMU. Turned out gyro drift was significantly changed when the connector was inserted when the device was assembled
2018-02-14T11:44:01 < fest> err, gyro offset*
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2018-02-14T11:46:47 < stvn> power up the stroopwafel express mr Steffanx
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2018-02-14T11:49:56 < kakimir> I need really small transformer
2018-02-14T11:50:04 < kakimir> to drive communications into DC line
2018-02-14T11:52:02 < kakimir> I wonder if I could do such thing that I have filter in dc line and then place transformer secondary across the filter
2018-02-14T11:52:11 < kakimir> so I don't have this DC to deal with
2018-02-14T11:52:28 < kakimir> I just need some ic to do all the modulation and tx and rx
2018-02-14T11:53:17 < kakimir> I have lipo in another end of the line and switching regulator at another end
2018-02-14T11:53:33 < kakimir> I think I need to go above switching frequencies
2018-02-14T11:53:43 < kakimir> 500-1000khz to be assumed
2018-02-14T11:54:26 < stvn> dongs, that eevfaggot meter is a dud
2018-02-14T11:54:39 < dongs> stvn: what a fucking shock, i mean didnt I already say that?
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2018-02-14T11:54:52 < stvn> apparently it has a design flaw
2018-02-14T11:55:00 < stvn> and the cuck didn't even post it on his main channel
2018-02-14T11:55:08 < kakimir> could I use RF chip to drive transformer?
2018-02-14T11:55:14 < kakimir> Laurenceb,
2018-02-14T11:55:49 < stvn> dongs, yeah i wouldn't trust an aussie to design anything they're so fucking stupid
2018-02-14T12:06:42 < stvn> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Tektronix-TM-5006A-Mainframe-w-PS503A-DC504-FG504-and-SC504/152902164168
2018-02-14T12:10:18 < kakimir> recommend HF integrated radio ic?
2018-02-14T12:24:16 < Steffanx> No.
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2018-02-14T12:25:47 < kakimir> recommend VHF integrated radio tranceiver IC
2018-02-14T12:27:36 < Steffanx> No.
2018-02-14T12:38:53 < dongs> http://grupoautcomp.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Specification-IC-DK1203.pdf
2018-02-14T12:39:15 < dongs> chink cheap solution to wide Vin
2018-02-14T12:39:34 < stvn> hmmm
2018-02-14T12:40:25 < dongs> shenzhen DONGKe
2018-02-14T12:40:51 < stvn> i didn't know you purchased an ic design house
2018-02-14T12:41:19 < dongs> pretty sure no "house" in china "designs" anything
2018-02-14T12:41:25 < dongs> steal IP, maybe
2018-02-14T12:41:34 < stvn> true
2018-02-14T12:42:04 < stvn> A good estimate is that the controller will dissipate the output power
2018-02-14T12:44:16 < stvn> so how much do these fuck muppets want for this
2018-02-14T12:45:20 < dongs> $18.50 for 100
2018-02-14T12:45:43 < stvn> can't argue with that
2018-02-14T12:45:51 < dongs> absolutely.
2018-02-14T12:46:18 < dongs> why are BLDCs only measuring current on 2 phases?
2018-02-14T12:46:22 < dongs> why is 3rd not not needed?
2018-02-14T12:46:35 < dongs> is that enough to know if its stalling/whatever?
2018-02-14T12:46:52 < stvn> i guess
2018-02-14T12:47:05 < stvn> depends on what it cares to measure too
2018-02-14T12:47:28 < zyp> because current in third phase is the sum of the two other?
2018-02-14T12:47:34 < dongs> is it?
2018-02-14T12:48:31 < stvn> makes sense
2018-02-14T12:48:37 < stvn> if you think of them as vectors
2018-02-14T12:48:38 < zyp> if you have three wires and they form a complete circuit, then naturally the sum of currents in them must be 0
2018-02-14T12:49:19 < zyp> and if x + y + z = 0 and you know x and y, then z = -(x + y)
2018-02-14T12:50:42 < zyp> this goes for two and four wires as well
2018-02-14T12:51:02 < zyp> single phase meters only needs one current transformer because return current in other wire is the same
2018-02-14T12:51:49 < zyp> three phase delta meters need two current transformers, three phase wye metersi (three phase conductors plus neutral) needs three
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2018-02-14T12:52:07 < karlp> (until you mean people who want to measure leakage as well, but yeah)
2018-02-14T12:52:11 < dongs> http://www.mpoweruk.com/images/BLDCControl.gif so cuz the 3 are connected in center right?
2018-02-14T12:52:33 < dongs> but dont you need to know total current too then?
2018-02-14T12:52:54 < zyp> total current is 0, since it's a closed circuit
2018-02-14T12:52:55 < dongs> o never midn you posted the = thing
2018-02-14T12:52:58 < dongs> = 0
2018-02-14T12:53:21 < dongs> hokay
2018-02-14T12:55:29 < karlp> that chink power thing you posted is no different than any of the others yesterdya, it's still double wound transformer, plus Y-cap, plus optocoupler feedback
2018-02-14T12:55:46 < karlp> I mean, maybe the part is cheaper than normal, but it's pretty generic
2018-02-14T12:56:15 < stvn> china doesn't use y-cap, they use ceramic lol
2018-02-14T12:56:38 < zyp> karlp, my point still holds true when you're measuring leakage
2018-02-14T12:57:17 < zyp> since you then measure everything but the leakage, and the leakage is the remaining sum of everything you're measuring
2018-02-14T12:57:28 < karlp> three phase wye, N _should_ equal a+b+c, but it might not.
2018-02-14T12:57:38 < karlp> you need a fourth ct for it.
2018-02-14T12:57:55 < stvn> ah shit
2018-02-14T12:58:13 < dongs> karlp: yeah sure. its just something i saw on a cheap board and it looked interesting. im sure its even pin compatible to whatever $$$ version from U$A maker
2018-02-14T12:58:17 < zyp> karlp, are you thinking because of harmonics or leakage to PE?
2018-02-14T12:58:29 < karlp> leakage to pe, ie, leakage, why I said leakage :)
2018-02-14T13:00:03 < zyp> most leakage measurements I've seen uses a separate sum transformer instead of summing up individual measurements
2018-02-14T13:00:26 < zyp> since the order of magnitudes are fairly different
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2018-02-14T13:14:28 < stvn> the dirty girl
2018-02-14T13:15:13 < stvn> the bird with the broken beak
2018-02-14T13:15:25 < dongs> nice blog stvn
2018-02-14T13:15:33 < dongs> how goes pumping?
2018-02-14T13:15:49 < stvn> fucking excellent
2018-02-14T13:15:58 < dongs> shiet.
2018-02-14T13:16:17 < dongs> launching stmcube
2018-02-14T13:16:35 < dongs> oh its gonna spend 2 hours updating MCU files
2018-02-14T13:16:41 < dongs> cuz ST releases a new product every week
2018-02-14T13:16:48 < dongs> so it needs to re-download all the fucking .json shits
2018-02-14T13:16:53 < dongs> for 234892374298 variations tehy make
2018-02-14T13:17:07 < zyp> haha
2018-02-14T13:17:11 < dongs> mcusFeaturesAndDescription.json
2018-02-14T13:17:18 < dongs> its been trying to downlaod that for like 30 seconds now
2018-02-14T13:17:21 < dongs> i wonder how fucking huge it is
2018-02-14T13:17:24 < dongs> and why its json
2018-02-14T13:17:26 < dongs> and not compressed
2018-02-14T13:17:50 < dongs> boards.json
2018-02-14T13:18:45 < stvn> yeah i'm just inbetween tasks sputtering nonsense on irc
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2018-02-14T13:28:00 < dongs>  < stvn> yeah i'm just inbetween pumps sputtering nonsense on irc
2018-02-14T13:28:01 < dongs> ftfy
2018-02-14T13:28:14 < stvn> no worries
2018-02-14T13:31:47 < stvn> should i get the 1070 this time around?
2018-02-14T13:34:42 < dongs> not at todays prices
2018-02-14T13:34:49 < dongs> unless you find some dumb shitcoin miner to buy one off of
2018-02-14T13:34:55 < dongs> 1080ti is like $1300 aud
2018-02-14T13:35:08 < stvn> lol yeah its a joke
2018-02-14T13:35:20 < dongs> fucking shitcoin
2018-02-14T13:35:23 < dongs> i hope it crashes soon
2018-02-14T13:35:23 < stvn> https://www.pccasegear.com/category/193_1828/graphics-cards/geforce-gtx-1080
2018-02-14T13:35:30 < dongs> and niggers end with garbage cards they cant use
2018-02-14T13:36:06 < stvn> good
2018-02-14T13:36:35 < stvn> i'll be waiting with my $200 nearest offer
2018-02-14T13:40:01 < dongs> https://www.ebay.com/itm/autism/112810228326
2018-02-14T13:40:29 < tct> to run chrome
2018-02-14T13:41:04 < dongs> "run" or "run"
2018-02-14T13:41:14 < dongs> chrome uses like 5gb ram
2018-02-14T13:41:17 < dongs> after couple days of being oepn
2018-02-14T13:41:24 < dongs> bullshit, faggot
2018-02-14T13:41:36 < tct> yeah, I call bs too
2018-02-14T13:41:45 < dongs> i ahve 32gb
2018-02-14T13:41:47 < dongs> just opened taskmgr
2018-02-14T13:41:48 < tct> I barely get my chrome to run bellow 3GB or RAM
2018-02-14T13:41:49 < dongs> 60% in use
2018-02-14T13:41:56 < dongs> chrome is using 3gb
2018-02-14T13:42:19 < tct> 64 GB here, 2.6GB used by chrome - but I restarted this machine 5 hours ago
2018-02-14T13:42:58 < tct> you're a retard - I hope you know that
2018-02-14T13:43:12 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/cK33oHs.png
2018-02-14T13:43:23 < tct> dongs, closed chrome? :p
2018-02-14T13:43:38 < dongs> eys
2018-02-14T13:45:11 < stvn> 32gb does seem like a good amount, maybe i can run chrome and skype at the same time.....
2018-02-14T13:45:35 < dongs> skype is fucking cancer
2018-02-14T13:45:44 < stvn> i havent used it in a year
2018-02-14T13:45:45 < stvn> btw
2018-02-14T13:45:56 < stvn> chemo went well
2018-02-14T13:46:06 < dongs> i only have it to shat with chinagirl and technically i dont need to cuz i can just use some chink IM
2018-02-14T13:46:35 < tct> reminds me of: https://i.redd.it/mspfbvrhtv401.jpg
2018-02-14T13:46:55 < dongs> typical macfaggot
2018-02-14T13:46:59 < dongs> its funny those 2 things are mentioend
2018-02-14T13:47:03 < dongs> they're bot h fucking literally chrome.exe
2018-02-14T13:47:04 < dongs> in a window
2018-02-14T13:47:08 < dongs> running a fucking javashit interpreter
2018-02-14T13:47:10 < dongs> to render UI
2018-02-14T13:47:19 < dongs> software in 2018, fucking garbage
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2018-02-14T13:47:46 < tct> atom = run a web server to edit text files.
2018-02-14T13:48:31 < dongs> thankfully notepad.exe is enough for my needs
2018-02-14T13:48:54 < tct> Y U NO notepad++.exe ?
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2018-02-14T13:50:34 < dongs> i dont like garbage
2018-02-14T13:51:10 < tct> you don't know that
2018-02-14T13:51:26 < stvn> notepad++ is dirty
2018-02-14T13:57:51 < dongs> https://i.redd.it/o7pbhh97t2g01.gif  ahahah lmao
2018-02-14T14:00:59 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3I9CIusH5w quality viewing
2018-02-14T14:03:07 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S5qsN10SjE
2018-02-14T14:06:06 < tct> the fuck dongs
2018-02-14T14:06:25 < stvn> is the gnu project related to a bowel movement
2018-02-14T14:07:00 < tct> no, it's templeos. eternal movement
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2018-02-14T14:21:50 < Laurenceb> A U T I S M
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2018-02-14T14:22:05 < Laurenceb> I have to make a multichannel audiophool tier system now
2018-02-14T14:22:13 < Laurenceb> this project is autastic
2018-02-14T14:22:27 < zyp> better get some xmos
2018-02-14T14:22:32 < dongs> def
2018-02-14T14:22:38 < dongs> jitter-free USB Audio class
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2018-02-14T14:25:41 < Laurenceb> xmos tier autismo
2018-02-14T14:26:09 < Laurenceb> tbh I'm thinking of making an stm32 based device with gps and condenser mic inputs
2018-02-14T14:26:33 < Laurenceb> nuttier idea: UVC usb webcam passthrough that adds data as extra audio channels
2018-02-14T14:26:50 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCbGwxYiWug wow china
2018-02-14T14:27:17 < Laurenceb> G R O U N D E D
2018-02-14T14:27:49 < Laurenceb> that building doesnt look very chinese
2018-02-14T14:28:03 < Laurenceb> dey got bleached
2018-02-14T14:28:13 < Laurenceb> not as bad as south korea tho
2018-02-14T14:28:52 < Laurenceb> https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20180118&t=2&i=1223014824&r=LYNXMPEE0H0QK&w=940
2018-02-14T14:29:12 < Laurenceb> back row
2018-02-14T14:29:59 < Laurenceb> maybe he is a refugee
2018-02-14T14:30:41 < Laurenceb> probably rapey enough
2018-02-14T14:31:30 < Laurenceb> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/720x405/p05xx35n.jpg
2018-02-14T15:00:40 < dongs> whats an ichef
2018-02-14T15:11:15 < sync> dongs: wow
2018-02-14T15:11:20 < sync> their hueg "control" room
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2018-02-14T15:25:18 < dongs> ikr
2018-02-14T15:25:50 < Laurenceb> aha
2018-02-14T15:25:52 < Laurenceb> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1581696.pdf
2018-02-14T15:26:12 < Laurenceb> just needs a mod to run off usb
2018-02-14T15:26:33 < dongs> wat
2018-02-14T15:26:37 < dongs> thats some high grade autism
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2018-02-14T15:28:06 < Laurenceb> ikr
2018-02-14T15:28:15 < Laurenceb> that + maya44
2018-02-14T15:28:32 < Laurenceb> still need a balanced -> single ended convertor lead
2018-02-14T15:31:18 < Laurenceb> should give ~5dBA to 85dBA dynamic range
2018-02-14T15:31:27 < dongs> dynamic rage
2018-02-14T15:31:31 < Laurenceb> ikr
2018-02-14T15:31:39 < Laurenceb> microphone mounts will be fun
2018-02-14T15:32:12 < Laurenceb> https://www.thomann.de/gb/esi_maya_44_usb.htm?sid=b1d98ea406a8bd214b8713af1ceb1cbc  this shit
2018-02-14T15:32:41 < dongs> is this still a baby shaker
2018-02-14T15:32:42 < Laurenceb> I'll have to mod it with DC output jack to power the mic amp
2018-02-14T15:32:44 < Laurenceb> yes
2018-02-14T15:32:47 < dongs> do they make firewire audio interfaces anymore
2018-02-14T15:32:51 < dongs> i heard those have less jitter
2018-02-14T15:32:57 < Laurenceb> lel that could be fun
2018-02-14T15:33:20 < sync> dongs: they do
2018-02-14T15:36:20 < Laurenceb> yeah but I need alignment to usb clock, so usb it is
2018-02-14T15:36:43 < Laurenceb> still need balanced to unbalanced conversion
2018-02-14T15:37:29 < Laurenceb> freaking audiophools https://www.markertek.com/product/ses-aud-xlr-rca/sescom-aud-xlr-rca-1-channel-xlr-to-rca-balanced-to-unbalanced-audio-converter
2018-02-14T15:37:37 < Laurenceb> there is overpriced shit for everything
2018-02-14T15:37:38 < dongs> MAKE:R TEK
2018-02-14T15:37:45 < dongs> jesus $46
2018-02-14T15:37:50 < dongs> whats inside, literally jsut A>B?
2018-02-14T15:37:59 < Laurenceb> https://www.markertek.com/product/lm2u/whirlwind-lm2u-balanced-to-unbalanced-converter
2018-02-14T15:38:01 < Laurenceb> kekking
2018-02-14T15:39:04 < Laurenceb> wew http://www.sonifex.co.uk/redbox/rbul4_ld.shtml
2018-02-14T15:42:36 < Laurenceb> http://cpc.farnell.com/horizon/dbbloxf/converter-bal-to-unbal/dp/AV17470
2018-02-14T15:42:49 < Laurenceb> inb4 whole system literally costs 1k
2018-02-14T15:43:06 < sync> obv
2018-02-14T15:43:07 < dongs> is balanced to jewbalanced just a fucking transformer
2018-02-14T15:43:11 < dongs> or is tehre more to it
2018-02-14T15:43:12 < Laurenceb> i think so
2018-02-14T15:43:24 < sync> you could have just bought some NI ADC card
2018-02-14T15:43:27 < Laurenceb> good news is the whole system can be isolated
2018-02-14T15:43:32 < Laurenceb> https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/products/6728760/?grossPrice=Y&cm_mmc=UK-PLA-DS3A-_-google-_-PLA_UK_EN_Power_Supplies_And_Transformers-_-Dc-Dc_Converters%7CIsolated_Dc-Dc_Converters-_-PRODUCT+GROUP&matchtype=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9L2tusSl2QIV4r3tCh3fzAgYEAQYAiABEgK3pvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
2018-02-14T15:43:42 < Laurenceb> I'll stick that in the 9v battery box
2018-02-14T15:43:48 < Laurenceb> so no noise
2018-02-14T15:44:09 < dongs> can confirm, clones of that work pretty good
2018-02-14T15:44:11 < dongs> chian versions are like $0.5
2018-02-14T15:46:06 < Laurenceb> sync: NI ADC card wouldnt do 48v phantom power and µV input voltages
2018-02-14T15:46:25 < Laurenceb> condenser mics are a pita to use
2018-02-14T15:46:37 < dongs> phantom power is literally like some diodes/caps/resistors
2018-02-14T15:46:43 < sync> yeah
2018-02-14T15:46:48 < sync> you can easily cloner this infront
2018-02-14T15:46:49 < dongs> you could negro that up
2018-02-14T15:47:22 < Laurenceb> yeah but this way it will look moar pro
2018-02-14T15:53:31 < dongs> https://www.eurodk.com/en/products/rb951/routerboard-cap-ac not bad
2018-02-14T15:53:33 < dongs> eurodk just spammed it
2018-02-14T15:53:49 < Laurenceb> eurodick
2018-02-14T15:55:20 < sync> dongs: being mikrodik it probably does not work
2018-02-14T15:55:36 < dongs> thats funny, i have zero probelms with mikrodik shit
2018-02-14T15:55:48 < sync> we had one of thier cloudswitch things
2018-02-14T15:55:51 < sync> and it ate packets
2018-02-14T15:56:00 < dongs> i have one too and it doesnt
2018-02-14T15:56:10 < dongs> latest firmware makes it slo but whatever it shipped with works fine and I can do 10gb over it
2018-02-14T15:56:39 < sync> interesting
2018-02-14T15:57:04 < dongs> and i have thier smaller 8GbE/2SFP thing and thats been running for several yeras now with zero isseus
2018-02-14T15:57:22 < sync> we had their 24port thing
2018-02-14T15:58:02 < dongs> i got that too
2018-02-14T15:58:07 < dongs> not as long as the smaller one
2018-02-14T15:58:11 < dongs> thats the one that gets slow with new fw
2018-02-14T15:58:39 < sync> hm
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2018-02-14T16:00:43 < sync> dongs: it was eating dhcp ACKs
2018-02-14T16:01:01 < dongs> havent experienced that but what do i know
2018-02-14T16:01:28 < sync> fair enough
2018-02-14T16:02:15 < zyp> I have the same CRS210 as dongs, it's fine
2018-02-14T16:02:42 < dongs> i don't have DHCP on my CRS210 network but I do have it on my 24-port one
2018-02-14T16:02:46 < dongs> and havent had problems like ever
2018-02-14T16:03:05 < zyp> only issue I've had is that sometimes one of the SFP+ ports gets stuck in some state that doesn't communicate, solved by a powercycle
2018-02-14T16:03:31 < zyp> I think that's happened like three times over the two years I've had it
2018-02-14T16:03:32 < dongs> not here, i dont think i even ever powerecycled it since I bought it except once when storm took the power out and i upgraded to a better UPS
2018-02-14T16:04:38 < dongs> since 1/6/2016
2018-02-14T16:04:43 < zyp> I do run DHCP, can't say I've had any problems with that either
2018-02-14T16:06:11 < sync> maybe the earlier firmware did not do that
2018-02-14T16:06:15 < sync> but the one we had was shit
2018-02-14T16:06:29 < dongs> possible, i upgraded and my gbe speeds took a complete shit
2018-02-14T16:06:37 < dongs> from gbit to like 3-10meg/sec max
2018-02-14T16:06:42 < dongs> so I just downgraded to whatever it shipped with
2018-02-14T16:06:44 < dongs> and no problems
2018-02-14T16:06:51 < dongs> found some retarded thread on mikrodik forums raging about same shit
2018-02-14T16:06:53 < dongs> no solution
2018-02-14T16:07:16 < dongs> i dont need anything from new firmware anyway, i just use it as a switch and for port mirroring occasioanlly when I need to analyze some traffic
2018-02-14T16:07:21 < dongs> and that works fine
2018-02-14T16:08:02 < zyp> I haven't bothered touching any settings on mine even
2018-02-14T16:09:18 < dongs> i dont think 210 is affected, its different hardware
2018-02-14T16:09:29 < dongs> the 24port shit runs some barebones rtos thing not full-blown lunix
2018-02-14T16:09:37 < dongs> firmware is like 50k .bin
2018-02-14T16:10:40 < sync> interesting
2018-02-14T16:10:56 < zyp> tempted to get a 317 at some point
2018-02-14T16:11:08 < dongs> status
2018-02-14T16:11:08 < zyp> if I ever get to a point where I need more than two 10g ports
2018-02-14T16:11:11 < dongs> err.
2018-02-14T16:11:23 < dongs> whats 317 do?
2018-02-14T16:11:26 < dongs> more SFP?
2018-02-14T16:11:48 < zyp> 16x 10g ports, passive cooling, $315 from eurodk
2018-02-14T16:12:01 < zyp> https://www.eurodk.com/en/products/crs/cloud-router-switch-317-1g-16srm
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2018-02-14T16:15:28 < zyp> but for it to make sense to get one, I'd have to make use of more than two 10g ports
2018-02-14T16:16:16 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/NOJozB6.png
2018-02-14T16:16:37 < zyp> and currently I only have two stationary computers; my desktop workstation and my server
2018-02-14T16:16:46 < zyp> everything else on the network are laptops and embedded shit
2018-02-14T16:17:30 < zyp> and I currently don't see any need for more servers or whatever either
2018-02-14T16:17:30 < sync> I'm kinda amazed nobody made some 10G usb C shit
2018-02-14T16:17:42 < zyp> current server does anything I've thrown on it so far
2018-02-14T16:19:15 < dongs> sync, tahito or wahtever the fuck made thunderdong > 10gbe
2018-02-14T16:19:17 < dongs> but its like $300
2018-02-14T16:20:02 < dongs> http://www.tehutinetworks.net/?t=LV&L1=3&L2=0&L3=0&L7=157
2018-02-14T16:21:04 < sync> sonnet has some shit as well
2018-02-14T16:22:35 < sync> but interesting
2018-02-14T16:25:24 < sync> I guess I'll get one or two of those mikrodik APs
2018-02-14T16:25:44 < Steffanx> Hah thats why i nevet got a router zyp. My only 10 gbe connection is between my server and work station.
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2018-02-14T16:26:17 < Steffanx> And just 1G for the other devices that have to access the server
2018-02-14T16:26:34 < karlp> 100meg for everything here
2018-02-14T16:26:39 < dongs> fuck off
2018-02-14T16:26:41 < dongs> how do you survive
2018-02-14T16:26:50 < karlp> don't copy big things around?
2018-02-14T16:27:03 < zyp> Steffanx, yeah, I just don't want to have separate networks
2018-02-14T16:27:08 < karlp> we're not doing any 4k video shit either
2018-02-14T16:27:23 < zyp> 100meg is slower than my internet connection
2018-02-14T16:27:32 < Steffanx> Same here. :)
2018-02-14T16:27:37 < karlp> well, mine too really,
2018-02-14T16:27:48 < karlp> but I've got to threaten to move providers to make them upgrade the fibre box
2018-02-14T16:27:59 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-14T16:28:10 < karlp> and then I'll be "forced" toupgrade internal networking to be gigabit as well, just because
2018-02-14T16:28:24 < zyp> I wonder if the other ISP I signed up for in june last year are going to be ready soon
2018-02-14T16:28:26 < karlp> I'm definitely considering it, just need to find a new cheap wifi router with gigabit
2018-02-14T16:28:46 < zyp> the guy that gave me the offer estimated three months
2018-02-14T16:28:53 < zyp> last I asked they estimated end of february
2018-02-14T16:29:39 < zyp> if they're gonna delay it much more now, I will have moved before I get it
2018-02-14T16:31:23 < kakimir> Laurenceb, I need rx tx
2018-02-14T16:31:26 < kakimir> chip
2018-02-14T16:31:30 < kakimir> inexpensives
2018-02-14T16:31:34 < englishman> jadew, i got my reflow oven from a friend's place after his house got condemned due to mold, it still had toast in it and smells like toast whenever i reflow
2018-02-14T16:31:36 < Laurenceb> how tx rx formed
2018-02-14T16:31:37 < kakimir> HF or VHF
2018-02-14T16:31:47 < Laurenceb> use silabs
2018-02-14T16:32:01 < sync> meh, I max out a 100meg here currently
2018-02-14T16:32:02 < kakimir> I try to communicate in DC power line with it
2018-02-14T16:32:11 < kakimir> what do you think about that?
2018-02-14T16:32:14 < sync> I gotta figure out when they put in fiber here
2018-02-14T16:32:36 < jadew> englishman, you should probably put a "don't eat!" sticker on your boards then :)
2018-02-14T16:33:11 < kakimir> I want the cheapest, smallest and thing that is absolutelly certain to work
2018-02-14T16:33:19 < Laurenceb> silabs
2018-02-14T16:33:21 < kakimir> and pass emission tests
2018-02-14T16:33:29 < kakimir> so I want to have wide band
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2018-02-14T16:33:42 < kakimir> and talk really slow and quiet
2018-02-14T16:35:43 < Laurenceb> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.04718
2018-02-14T16:36:04 < jadew> englishman, did you make any changes to it?
2018-02-14T16:36:40 < englishman> some extra insulation, but only what came with the reflow kit. and a metal plate
2018-02-14T16:36:50 < englishman> and the ssrs and controller of course
2018-02-14T16:36:58 < jadew> what reflow kit?
2018-02-14T16:37:05 < englishman> controlleo2
2018-02-14T16:37:24 < englishman> and yes the door opening a crack is enough, there is a temp curve to follow when cooling  as well
2018-02-14T16:37:57 < jadew> nice
2018-02-14T16:38:33 < jadew> I'm planning to make a box for it so I can contain the fumes and vent them
2018-02-14T16:38:47 < jadew> seems like the simplest option
2018-02-14T16:39:15 < jadew> is Controleo3 better than 2?
2018-02-14T16:40:02 < jadew> man... that kit is expensive
2018-02-14T16:40:05 < englishman> no idea, 2 is tarduino shit
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2018-02-14T16:41:19 < jadew> $280
2018-02-14T16:41:21 < jadew> ffs...
2018-02-14T16:41:37 < jadew> is it using gold wires?
2018-02-14T16:42:04 < englishman> why does the price matter? you're not going to buy one
2018-02-14T16:42:05 < Laurenceb> is dat RCA connectors? https://images.static-thomann.de/pics/bdb/111455/8683875_800.jpg
2018-02-14T16:42:18 < jadew> englishman, I thought I was
2018-02-14T16:42:23 < jadew> but at that price, no
2018-02-14T16:42:32 < jadew> if it was $100, yeah
2018-02-14T16:42:42 < jadew> but 280 + taxes - no thanks
2018-02-14T16:45:46 < fest> jadew: I've got decent (as in- works for me) results just by sticking a multimeter's thermocouple inside, turning the oven on and opening the door when the correct temp was reached
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2018-02-14T16:46:15 < fest> that's probably as ghetto as it gets
2018-02-14T16:46:17 < jadew> fest, I'll probably do the same
2018-02-14T16:46:20 < dongs> judew, what
2018-02-14T16:46:23 < dongs> controlleo3 is $109
2018-02-14T16:46:34 < dongs> where the fuck do you see it for $280
2018-02-14T16:47:00 < jadew> dongs, without anything
2018-02-14T16:47:13 < jadew> just the PCB and a plastic enclosure
2018-02-14T16:47:13 < dongs> just get into the oven you cheap fucking jew
2018-02-14T16:47:37 < dongs> i mean would you rather get that or a fucking PUHUI T962
2018-02-14T16:47:41 < dongs> that will self-immolate
2018-02-14T16:48:08 < englishman> it wont, its insulated with asbestos
2018-02-14T16:48:15 < jadew> lol, yeah
2018-02-14T16:48:23 < englishman> the best insulator imo
2018-02-14T16:48:51 < dongs> well, the smell and look of my shit disagrees
2018-02-14T16:49:02 < dongs> then again, it was probably more form the PCBs that it fucking cooked
2018-02-14T16:51:27 < jadew> I'll just make a super getto controller: 1) add thermocouple. 2) log out the temperature. 3) do it by eye first. 4) add a relay that turns the power off when the best temparature is reached (discovered by eye on point 3)
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2018-02-14T16:52:22 < jadew> and maybe ring some bell so you open the door
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2018-02-14T17:09:04 < Laurenceb> reeee audiophools
2018-02-14T17:09:18 < Laurenceb> >tie clip mics use 10v phantom power
2018-02-14T17:09:25 < Laurenceb> status: raging
2018-02-14T17:10:44 < Laurenceb> why is audiophool so autastic
2018-02-14T17:15:10 < Laurenceb> holy shit the price
2018-02-14T17:15:11 < Laurenceb> http://cpc.farnell.com/audio-technica/pro70/condenser-lavalier-microphone/dp/MP34708
2018-02-14T17:15:13 < sync> Laurenceb: well, most shit is specced 12-48V
2018-02-14T17:15:18 < Laurenceb> ikr
2018-02-14T17:15:29 < Laurenceb> that thing will run of 48v but its silly price
2018-02-14T17:15:35 < Laurenceb> oh well its not my money
2018-02-14T17:21:00 < qyx> looks cheap
2018-02-14T17:21:08 < Laurenceb> kek
2018-02-14T17:21:28 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb: yes those were rca
2018-02-14T17:21:32 < Laurenceb> at least it has datasheet
2018-02-14T17:21:47 < BrainDamage> rca are super ubiquious in audio
2018-02-14T17:21:51 < Laurenceb> ok
2018-02-14T17:22:20 < qyx> y u no bruel & kjaer
2018-02-14T17:22:30 < Laurenceb> lelz
2018-02-14T17:22:39 < Laurenceb> audiophool confirmed
2018-02-14T17:22:42 < qyx> https://www.bksv.com/en/products/transducers/acoustic/microphones/microphone-preamplifier-combinations/4189-L-001
2018-02-14T17:22:46 < qyx> good specs
2018-02-14T17:22:53 < qyx> I am suspecting ~1000e
2018-02-14T17:23:15 < Laurenceb> thats true
2018-02-14T17:23:24 < Laurenceb> I'm not interested in really low noise
2018-02-14T17:23:41 < Laurenceb> but I need good stability, calibration data, and linearity
2018-02-14T17:23:54 < aandrew> zyp: stm32f7
2018-02-14T17:23:54 < Laurenceb> to convert to Pa absolute
2018-02-14T17:24:41 < BrainDamage> if it's calibration you need, you'll have an hard time if you go to the audio card route
2018-02-14T17:24:56 < BrainDamage> most of them are only good in relative measurements
2018-02-14T17:25:08 < Laurenceb> thats why I was getting the maya44 thingy
2018-02-14T17:25:22 < Laurenceb> its pretty much an adc
2018-02-14T17:25:51 < Laurenceb> then just lock the amp on max gain
2018-02-14T17:26:18 < Laurenceb> I can calibrate the system with just a signal gen if I know mic response
2018-02-14T17:30:23 < Laurenceb> this looks good for general vehicle monitoring http://cpc.farnell.com/samson/cm11b/mic-boundary-omni-directional/dp/MP34836?st=condenser%20microphone%20xlr
2018-02-14T17:30:33 < Laurenceb> will need a mount :-S
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2018-02-14T17:38:12 < zyp> aandrew, they have gigabit? cool
2018-02-14T17:38:30 < aandrew> no, just rmii
2018-02-14T17:38:33 < aandrew> rmii is not gig
2018-02-14T17:38:56 < zyp> you wrote RGMII
2018-02-14T17:39:07 < aandrew> zyp: oh, that was definitely a typo
2018-02-14T17:39:12 < Laurenceb> woah this is acutal good value http://cpc.farnell.com/behringer/b-5/condenser-microphone/dp/MP33626
2018-02-14T17:39:14 < zyp> aww
2018-02-14T17:39:28 < aandrew> the design has a gige phy to the FPGA, I clearly was thinking one thing and wrote another
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2018-02-14T17:51:25 < tct> received jlink. time to blog
2018-02-14T17:56:28 < Steffanx> What jlink did you get?
2018-02-14T17:57:11 < tct> Ultra+
2018-02-14T17:57:48 < Laurenceb> ordered
2018-02-14T17:57:54 < Laurenceb>  ukp300
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2018-02-14T17:58:56 < Laurenceb> wait no 350
2018-02-14T17:59:02 < Laurenceb> all on audiophool shit
2018-02-14T17:59:16 < Laurenceb> dis had better wurk
2018-02-14T18:00:47 < Laurenceb> I should start selling audio gear
2018-02-14T18:06:22 < tct> don't go audiophile, mr. blaxter
2018-02-14T18:07:38 < Steffanx> tct looks way too much like crt. And it seems to make you act like one :P
2018-02-14T18:11:02 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-14T18:11:10 < Laurenceb> ok £350 sent
2018-02-14T18:11:35 < Laurenceb> oh noes now we only have £3999650
2018-02-14T18:15:13 < Laurenceb> Grand Theft Auto?
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2018-02-14T19:16:50 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUq5mRCimo
2018-02-14T19:16:58 < Laurenceb> S H A K E N
2018-02-14T19:46:04 < fest> dongs: ICM20602 looks a bit better: https://imgur.com/a/wrej1 (reproduced on two boards)
2018-02-14T19:46:36 < fest> bodging an LDO in place of DC-DC switcher didn't change anything though
2018-02-14T19:47:03 < fest> still some weird peaks, even in temperature
2018-02-14T19:47:50 < fest> although there's no fan in this sauna and it's been running for the whole day
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2018-02-14T19:49:26 < englishman> what was the original sensor?
2018-02-14T19:56:25 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E630yj3-smY
2018-02-14T19:56:47 < Laurenceb> fest: what is a spectrogram
2018-02-14T19:56:51 < Laurenceb> cant tell shit from that
2018-02-14T20:00:07 < Laurenceb> datasheet looks slightly worse than lsm6dsl
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2018-02-14T20:07:33 < Laurenceb> typical German https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79aX-gOM0oM
2018-02-14T20:08:33 < Laurenceb>  Luke Judkins
2018-02-14T20:08:33 < Laurenceb> Luke Judkins
2018-02-14T20:08:33 < Laurenceb> 3 years ago
2018-02-14T20:08:33 < Laurenceb> Would you trade the VKU Orange and blak ESE wheeliebin If you could please
2018-02-14T20:08:37 < Laurenceb> my sides
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2018-02-14T20:20:00 < fest> englishman: ICM20608
2018-02-14T20:20:15 < englishman> ah i tried that one
2018-02-14T20:20:20 < englishman> harsh harmonivs
2018-02-14T20:20:22 < englishman> harmonics
2018-02-14T20:20:31 < fest> Laurenceb: I'm not so concerned about noise, I'm more concerned about accel offset
2018-02-14T20:20:54 < Laurenceb> yeah I was worried about that too
2018-02-14T20:20:57 < fest> for camera gimbal
2018-02-14T20:21:06 < Laurenceb> and lsm had lower offset
2018-02-14T20:21:13 < Laurenceb> but your offset looks better than datasheet
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2018-02-14T20:23:17 < fest> Laurenceb: this is definitely not better than datasheet: https://imgur.com/a/A6gCc
2018-02-14T20:24:49 < aandrew> fest: nice graphing
2018-02-14T20:24:56 < aandrew> what are you using to reproduce that
2018-02-14T20:24:59 < aandrew> -re
2018-02-14T20:25:19 < Laurenceb> what the...
2018-02-14T20:25:27 < Laurenceb> are you sure its not wobbling about?
2018-02-14T20:25:50 < fest> aandrew: kst2
2018-02-14T20:25:57 < aandrew> wtf is kst2
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2018-02-14T20:26:06 < fest> lunix aids, as dongs would say
2018-02-14T20:26:25 < fest> Laurenceb: yeah, quite certain, the same pattern was repeated three times
2018-02-14T20:26:38 < Laurenceb> thats very weird
2018-02-14T20:27:15 < Laurenceb> maybe there is internal compensation
2018-02-14T20:27:53 < Laurenceb> but the correlation makes me think the device is slipping
2018-02-14T20:28:00 < Laurenceb> I had this issue calibrating memes sensors
2018-02-14T20:28:06 < Laurenceb> you need a good mount
2018-02-14T20:28:56 < fest> here's ICM20608 from another batch (this is used sensor, so I would expect some weirdness): https://imgur.com/a/57iEQ
2018-02-14T20:30:17 < fest> I doubt it- the first tests I performed had the camera attached (which luckily is rectangular shaped, so it stayed on surface nicely)
2018-02-14T20:30:57 < aandrew> fest: got any docs on how you're going about calibrating an IMU?
2018-02-14T20:31:28 < fest> not really
2018-02-14T20:31:43 < fest> this project is using simplebgc and I'm just an integration monkey
2018-02-14T20:32:54 < fest> but, ignoring temperature aspects: gyro zero rate offsets are measured, and min/max measurements from accelerometer are taken to calculate full scale and zero offset for each accelerometer axis
2018-02-14T20:34:10 < fest> aandrew: btw the kst2 is nice, because the plots are interactive
2018-02-14T20:34:31 < fest> and can be linked together (e.g. you zoom in on one plot, other plots can be zoomed in sync)
2018-02-14T20:34:39 < aandrew> interesting
2018-02-14T20:34:45 < aandrew> gonna have to check it out
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2018-02-14T20:35:17 < fest> yeah, there is some learning curve but I haven't found anything better yet
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2018-02-14T20:41:29 < fest> Laurenceb: also, the first plots show motor angles as measured by encoders- if the IMU had moved, the rotor angles would be changing too
2018-02-14T20:42:20 < Laurenceb> woah that last dataset doesnt look too good
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2018-02-14T20:43:38 < fest> yeah, good luck compensating for that
2018-02-14T20:43:58 < fest> Laurenceb: have you done temperature testing on your dildo project?
2018-02-14T20:44:18 < Laurenceb> yeah but not a full warmup test
2018-02-14T20:44:26 < Laurenceb> didnt detect any accel offset
2018-02-14T20:44:38 < Laurenceb> but I just ran the calibrate routine at -5C, 20C and 35C
2018-02-14T20:44:47 < Laurenceb> all were within +-0.2%
2018-02-14T20:45:13 < fest> shit, I'm probably missing something very obvious
2018-02-14T20:45:30 < fest> because I have done similar tests on MPU6000 a few years ago
2018-02-14T20:45:38 < fest> and didn't see any issues like this
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2018-02-14T20:51:25 < Lux> fest: are those plots really 100% static ?
2018-02-14T20:51:41 < kakimir> secs
2018-02-14T20:52:42 < fest> Lux: I'm pretty certain, yes
2018-02-14T20:52:47 < Lux> at least the one from another batch looks like it moved
2018-02-14T20:52:59 < Laurenceb> I had problems duck taping sensors
2018-02-14T20:53:00 < Lux> nice plots btw
2018-02-14T20:53:01 < fest> oh, that of course
2018-02-14T20:53:14 < Laurenceb> duck tape isnt stable
2018-02-14T20:53:44 < kakimir> what term is used for those slow low energy radios you use Laurenceb ?
2018-02-14T20:53:55 < kakimir> is there even a seperate name for them
2018-02-14T20:54:04 < Laurenceb> ISM band
2018-02-14T20:54:13 < fest> well, I place it on a sauna bench and hope the gravity does an A-OK job of keeping it static
2018-02-14T20:54:25 < kakimir> okay.. those are just general tranceivers with good sensitivity
2018-02-14T20:54:27 < Lux> fest: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x1b4v96xavf4xeo/u01.imu_temperature_compensation_-_hessel_van_der_molen.pdf
2018-02-14T20:54:31 < Laurenceb> is it heavier than the cable forces?
2018-02-14T20:54:39 < Lux> found that stuff some time ago, might help as a reference
2018-02-14T20:57:45 < fest> Laurenceb: I'm quite sure it can't move without also changing the arm angles: https://imgur.com/a/nSsY2
2018-02-14T20:57:58 < Laurenceb> ah I see how
2018-02-14T20:58:14 < kakimir> Laurenceb, what if I don't want to use ISM band?
2018-02-14T20:58:26 < Laurenceb> then you made a poor choice :P
2018-02-14T20:59:16 < fest> Lux: very interesting
2018-02-14T20:59:26 < fest> the plots also appear just like I remember them
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2018-02-14T21:07:50 < kakimir> Laurenceb, your baloons are talking in what frequency exactly?
2018-02-14T21:07:56 < Laurenceb> 434
2018-02-14T21:09:02 < kakimir> how ideal it is?
2018-02-14T21:09:10 < kakimir> if you could pick frequency freely?
2018-02-14T21:10:12 < kakimir> would you go how much lower?
2018-02-14T21:10:14 < kakimir> if any
2018-02-14T21:10:48 < kakimir> ofc solution size + antenna size would become an issue if you go really low
2018-02-14T21:16:31 < aandrew> PaulFertser: is there any standard with openocd when using jtag (not swd) and still getting access to SWO/SWV?
2018-02-14T21:16:50 < aandrew> I want to drive this STM32 in JTAG mode since I have an FPGA already there, but would like to bring SWO out to the FT2232
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2018-02-14T21:19:43 < PaulFertser> aandrew: I'm afraid no, but please wait for stm32 experts here to answer.
2018-02-14T21:20:09 < aandrew> no I don't mean on the STM side, I mean with oocd and a JTAG interface
2018-02-14T21:20:32 < aandrew> if I tell oocd it's a jtag port does that disable any ability to define a pin as SWO/SWV
2018-02-14T21:21:09 < PaulFertser> aandrew: SWO pin is defined in hardware by stm32 itself.
2018-02-14T21:21:28 < aandrew> I don't think I'm explaining myself correctly
2018-02-14T21:21:47 < aandrew> I understand the STM32 side of things, I'm not trying ot remap that. SWO is not on a pin shared with any JTAG pins on STM32
2018-02-14T21:21:50 < aandrew> (at least not this one)
2018-02-14T21:22:35 < aandrew> I'm asking if I can define a FT2232 JTAG device in oocd but also say "TDI/TDO/TCK/TRST are on pins 1,2,3,4, but there's also SWO available on FT2232 pin 5"
2018-02-14T21:22:52 < aandrew> or if oocd says "fuck you, this is a jtag interface, not an swd interface, no swo for you"
2018-02-14T21:24:17 < PaulFertser> aandrew: with ft2232 to capture swo you need to use _another_ interface (e.g. if your jtag is interface A, then you capture it from ttyUSB1 on interface B), OpenOCD is not even configuring it anyhow.
2018-02-14T21:24:57 < jpa-> aandrew: hmm, on most STM32's SWO is shared with JTDO, which one has it separate?
2018-02-14T21:25:03 < aandrew> ah, okay. I need to see how to capture SWO with FT2232
2018-02-14T21:25:24 < jpa-> just set bitrate and use like a serial port
2018-02-14T21:25:42 < aandrew> oh, nevermind. the schematic symbol is wrong
2018-02-14T21:25:50 < aandrew> there it is, PB3, JTDO/TRACESWO
2018-02-14T21:25:58 < aandrew> the whole question is now moot. :-)
2018-02-14T21:28:00 < jpa-> :)
2018-02-14T21:28:08 < jpa-> sorry to crush your dreams ;)
2018-02-14T21:28:18 < PaulFertser> aandrew: the official openocd user manual has details on capturing with ft2232.
2018-02-14T21:28:19 < aandrew> :-)
2018-02-14T21:29:01 < PaulFertser> aandrew: but you can debug with swd when you do not need to touch FPGA.
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2018-02-14T21:29:34 < aandrew> not if the STM/FTDI are wired up for JTAG
2018-02-14T21:29:40 < PaulFertser> Not sure if that fpga will like it much though
2018-02-14T21:30:07 < aandrew> ADBUS1 is the FTDI RXD, which is where SWO would have to be routed in UART mode, and ADBUS1 is TDI in MPSSE
2018-02-14T21:30:11 < PaulFertser> Why not connect fpga, then stm32?
2018-02-14T21:30:33 < PaulFertser> aandrew: you'd be using different interfaces for jtag/swd and for swo either way.
2018-02-14T21:30:33 < aandrew> the FTDI is physically on the same board as the FPGA and STM32
2018-02-14T21:30:45 < PaulFertser> Yes, so?
2018-02-14T21:30:47 < aandrew> no, I have BDBUS configured for UART to the STM32
2018-02-14T21:32:09 < PaulFertser> Even if you were using SWD you'd have to use A for SWD, B for SWO capture.
2018-02-14T21:32:16 < aandrew> right, I understand
2018-02-14T21:32:24 < aandrew> so unless I use a 4-port FTDI I'm euchred
2018-02-14T21:33:00 < jpa-> i think you might be able to connect to STM32 in SWD mode even if there is a FPGA sitting on the jtag bus
2018-02-14T21:33:21 < jpa-> because SWD uses the JTCK and JTMS pins which AFAIK are usually driven only by master
2018-02-14T21:33:34 < PaulFertser> aandrew: do you need to receive data from SWO at the same time as from the UART?
2018-02-14T21:34:01 < aandrew> well, if I think about it if I've already got a UART there SWO is buying me ntohing in this design
2018-02-14T21:34:39 < jpa-> swo is a lot faster though, and has the internal multiple-writers arbitration
2018-02-14T21:34:58 < aandrew> hm
2018-02-14T21:35:06 < PaulFertser> And you can route ITM events in hardware through it.
2018-02-14T21:35:09 < aandrew> I thought JTAG was able to be driven much faster
2018-02-14T21:39:31 < aandrew> hm, when configured for SWD, the FTDI's TCK becomes SWDCK, but TDI is tied to TDO via 470R and becomes SWDIO
2018-02-14T21:40:01 < aandrew> wouldn't I have to disconnect the FPGA's TDO so it isn't driving the line?
2018-02-14T21:41:05 < PaulFertser> 470R "disconnects" it enough
2018-02-14T21:41:17 < PaulFertser> Ah, that's what you mean, FPGA getting confused...
2018-02-14T21:41:28 < PaulFertser> Probably you can keep it in reset or something?
2018-02-14T21:41:51 < aandrew> I was thinking of driving a couple tristate buffers with an I/O line off ACBUS
2018-02-14T21:42:18 < PaulFertser> jpa-: the problem is that ftdi can't properly drive and read swdio from just one pin, so it uses tdi and tdo instead.
2018-02-14T21:42:19 < aandrew> I'd want it to continue running even when the STM32 is being debugged
2018-02-14T21:42:58 < jpa-> PaulFertser: ah, true
2018-02-14T21:43:03 < aandrew> oh wait, there's a pin on the FPGA called JTAGEN
2018-02-14T21:43:13 < aandrew> I wonder if I dropped that with ACBUS if it'd do what I wanted
2018-02-14T21:45:50 < PaulFertser> Sounds proper
2018-02-14T21:48:14 < aandrew> yep looks good
2018-02-14T21:48:53 < aandrew> so FT2232 starts up in uart mode with no eeprom present. I put JTAGEN on ACBUSx where x is HIZ in UART mode then things should start up correctly (I'm already doing that with the STM32's BOOT and RST# pins)
2018-02-14T21:49:47 < aandrew> then when I send the VS message to the FT2232 to configure its ADBUS to MPSSE I can also ensure the ACBUSx pin is high to keep the FPGA in JTAG mode, do what I need and done
2018-02-14T21:50:15 < aandrew> and if I want to use SWD, I drive that ACBUSx line low and away I go
2018-02-14T21:50:50 < aandrew> I can also use another ACBUSx signal ot route SWO or TXD to the BDBUS RXD pin to select whether the STM32 UART or SWO is routed to the FT2232
2018-02-14T21:51:34 < aandrew> thanks guys
2018-02-14T22:10:34 < aandrew> oh ffs
2018-02-14T22:11:02 < aandrew> why the hell don't these ULPI transcievers not automatically route the USB lines to the secondary USB pins (for audio/uart) when they're in reset? that would be so nice
2018-02-14T22:22:24 < aandrew> oh, they are routed in reset. perfecto.
2018-02-14T22:25:43 < upgrdman> ethernet / arp pros: wtf is this happening   https://imgur.com/a/CXxvf
2018-02-14T22:26:02 < aandrew> you were asking that before
2018-02-14T22:26:07 < aandrew> I think you'll have to ask your IP stack
2018-02-14T22:26:30 < upgrdman> no this is different from ebfore i think
2018-02-14T22:26:44 < upgrdman> superbia, why is $someIp asking who has $someIp
2018-02-14T22:26:49 < upgrdman> it knows it's own fucking ip
2018-02-14T22:26:58 < upgrdman> that like superbia who superbia is
2018-02-14T22:27:02 < upgrdman> asking who*
2018-02-14T22:28:04 < Steffanx> https://www.experts-exchange.com/questions/24059702/Network-device-send-ARP-request-for-an-IP-of-itself.html <= they know :P
2018-02-14T22:28:13 < Steffanx> but you are not allowed to read why
2018-02-14T22:29:01 < Steffanx> oh you are allowed to read it
2018-02-14T22:29:42 < upgrdman> hmm
2018-02-14T22:29:58 < upgrdman> guess i could try responding with "you have it"
2018-02-14T22:30:30 < Laurenceb> omg the muricans did it again
2018-02-14T22:30:38 < Laurenceb> their national sport
2018-02-14T22:30:43 < Steffanx> also https://serverfault.com/questions/219837/why-my-laptop-sends-arp-request-to-itself first answer there also sounds obvious, upgrdman
2018-02-14T22:30:46 < Steffanx> *logical
2018-02-14T22:30:49 < Steffanx> whatever you call it
2018-02-14T22:30:57 < Steffanx> it even seems to be a standard
2018-02-14T22:31:27 < upgrdman> thx brother steff
2018-02-14T22:31:56 < Steffanx> You're welcome. My googling was awesome, i know.
2018-02-14T22:32:03 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-14T22:32:09 < upgrdman> such googling
2018-02-14T22:32:54 < Laurenceb> murica wins olympic gold in schoolshooting
2018-02-14T22:32:57 < Laurenceb> yet again
2018-02-14T22:33:15 < Steffanx> oh yes Laurenceb?
2018-02-14T22:33:18 < Laurenceb> inb4 its actually a britbong like several of the previous times
2018-02-14T22:34:23 < Steffanx> source ?
2018-02-14T22:35:19 < Steffanx> Yeah, i went there... when i figured Laurenceb wouldnt share his sores
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2018-02-14T22:36:13 < Steffanx> but i dotn want to visit any of those websites
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2018-02-14T22:36:46 < Steffanx> My autism cant handle 1 sentence/paragraph
2018-02-14T22:37:51 < Steffanx> Yes you join us everyday around 7.15
2018-02-14T22:37:55 < Steffanx> Give or take one minute.
2018-02-14T22:39:20 < Steffanx> Recommend movie, kakimir
2018-02-14T22:39:42 < Steffanx> f no
2018-02-14T22:40:15 < Steffanx> I dislike that humor crt. I'd rather watch that brit Jimmy Carr on netflix.
2018-02-14T22:42:26 < kakimir> Steffanx, just a sec
2018-02-14T22:45:35 < kakimir> you want me to tell what I liked or try to figure what movies I liked you would also like?
2018-02-14T22:47:13 < Steffanx> Yes.
2018-02-14T22:47:15 < Steffanx> Any of that
2018-02-14T22:49:05 < kakimir> 10 Cloverfield Lane, Atomic Blonde, Back to Future, Braveheart, Coyote Ugly, Dredd (2012), Margin Call, The Andromeda Strain, Time Lapse, Why Him
2018-02-14T22:50:50 < Steffanx> lol, that list is even sorted :D
2018-02-14T22:51:02 < kakimir> It's my downloads
2018-02-14T22:51:34 < kakimir> I have actually paid for movies for a while
2018-02-14T22:52:44 < kakimir> Steffanx, what feeling you are lookin for?
2018-02-14T22:53:40 < Steffanx> i dont think i've tried atomic blond yet
2018-02-14T22:54:13 < kakimir> Easy watch and laughter? Puzzling? Scary? Awesomeness? Masculine hero drive.. Strong female main role?
2018-02-14T22:54:21 < kakimir> Drama?
2018-02-14T22:54:27 < Steffanx> no drama please
2018-02-14T22:54:53 < kakimir> Steffanx, and you have definitelly seen Dredd already?
2018-02-14T22:54:58 < Steffanx> yes
2018-02-14T22:55:03 < Steffanx> but i can rewatch
2018-02-14T22:55:19 < kakimir> I could do but I can't
2018-02-14T22:55:26 < Steffanx> Yes you can.
2018-02-14T22:55:27 < kakimir> I have a thing - no rewatch
2018-02-14T22:55:57 < Steffanx> Some movies i watched even more that twice.
2018-02-14T22:56:00 < Steffanx> *than
2018-02-14T22:56:55 < kakimir> Movie can awestruck me only once
2018-02-14T22:57:07 < kakimir> Something like original Blade Runner or Dredd
2018-02-14T22:57:08 < Steffanx> I think i have seen all the movies i have at least twice except for a few i have never seen
2018-02-14T22:57:51 < englishman> kaks have you seen the original road warrior
2018-02-14T22:58:08 < kakimir> certainly
2018-02-14T23:03:45 < upgrdman> Receiving lots of binary data over UDP. ~8Mbit/second. It seems like Java can't keep up. I wonder if I'm doing things inefficiently. I'm basically doing this: while(true) { datagramSocket.receive(datagramPacket); pipedOutputStream.write(rx_buffer, 0, datagramPacket.getLength()); } This is in it's own thread, with thread priority set to max.
2018-02-14T23:03:50 < upgrdman> oops wrong channel. :/
2018-02-14T23:05:36 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb: just for the record, behringer has a horrible fame in the audio world
2018-02-14T23:06:13 < BrainDamage> i have an audio card from behringer and it has a fucking awful pcb with soldering splotches and even a flying wire repair
2018-02-14T23:10:29 < zyp> behringer is cheapest shit level quality
2018-02-14T23:11:14 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-14T23:11:29 < kakimir> I had behringer monitors and those were shit
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2018-02-14T23:19:46 < kakimir> those monitors would have been quite okay in 90s
2018-02-14T23:35:46 < Steffanx> Lol
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2018-02-15T00:11:49 < karlp> fest: wooo, another kst2 user!
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2018-02-15T00:50:22 < Laurenceb_> ur mum
2018-02-15T00:53:12 < aandrew> how the fuck do you chain two timers in cube
2018-02-15T00:53:21 < aandrew> and what the fuck is "input capture indirect"
2018-02-15T01:17:30 < aandrew> yeah I can't seem to find what "input capture indirect mode" and "input capture direct mode from remap" actually means
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2018-02-15T01:19:35 < aandrew> https://imgur.com/a/2XxOV
2018-02-15T01:19:39 < aandrew> that's a busy little device
2018-02-15T01:21:22 < fest> karlp: have you figured out how to use kst2's filters?
2018-02-15T01:22:02 < karlp> I did once or twice,
2018-02-15T01:22:10 < fest> I mean, I use vim as my text editor so I shouldn't really be complaining about arcane UI
2018-02-15T01:22:16 < karlp> but yeah, it's a reallllly hard to figure out ui sometimes
2018-02-15T01:22:24 < fest> but I couldn't figure it out :)
2018-02-15T01:22:27 < karlp> it was all about figuring out the right way of telling it the sampling rate
2018-02-15T01:22:37 < karlp> it was all normalized or something
2018-02-15T01:22:56 < karlp> there's some kst2 video channel on youtube which apparently has a bunch of tips
2018-02-15T01:23:02 < karlp> and there's a new manual now apparently
2018-02-15T01:23:37 < karlp> I've used it a lot with things like swo->decoder->csv files -> kst2 streaming them in for live plotting
2018-02-15T01:27:46 < fest> having multiple kst2 windows open is a good shield for those silly "what are you working on" questions
2018-02-15T01:28:14 < fest> oo, looks very impressive, keep working on it, hehe
2018-02-15T01:28:47 < karlp> hehe :)
2018-02-15T01:28:54 < karlp> watch me do science!
2018-02-15T01:29:07 < aandrew> fest: yes, I usually have a schematic up, a layout up, code windows up... helps when you're working multiple contracts
2018-02-15T01:32:15 < karlp> aandrew: aren't you contracting anyway? who's comign by and asking?
2018-02-15T01:32:24 < aandrew> when I'm onsite it's tricky
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2018-02-15T02:39:02 < Laurenceb_> aandrew: eww nasty
2018-02-15T02:39:16 < aandrew> what's eww nasty
2018-02-15T02:39:19 < Laurenceb_> I doubt cube can do that tbh
2018-02-15T02:39:26 < Laurenceb_> chaining timers in cube
2018-02-15T02:39:35 < Laurenceb_> thats a case for raw register haxoring
2018-02-15T02:39:55 < Laurenceb_> chained timers are cool tho
2018-02-15T02:40:09 < Laurenceb_> but I've seen some race conditions on F1 if you chain too many
2018-02-15T02:40:59 < Laurenceb_> tho I was chaining all the timers to make an 8 channel ofdm modulator
2018-02-15T02:41:14 < aandrew> heh
2018-02-15T02:41:20 < aandrew> you're doing advanced shit
2018-02-15T02:41:31 < Laurenceb_> it worked on F4
2018-02-15T02:41:47 < Laurenceb_> just DMA the raw data into the timers :D
2018-02-15T02:42:28 < aandrew> there, I think I got the routing figured out: https://imgur.com/a/n46Sb
2018-02-15T02:43:13 < aandrew> I love those LVC1G97 devices
2018-02-15T02:45:53 < Laurenceb_> englishman spotted http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/vancouver-swing-dancer-banned-from-club-after-mansplaining
2018-02-15T02:46:04 < Laurenceb_> the terror of Vancouver
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2018-02-15T02:58:31 < aandrew> https://imgur.com/a/dpCdl
2018-02-15T02:58:34 < aandrew> that's cleaner
2018-02-15T02:58:37 < aandrew> PaulFertser: ^^
2018-02-15T02:59:44 < aandrew> FT2232 on reset with no EEPROM sets both channels to async serial, and CBUS1,2,5-7 are Hi-Z with ~47k pullup in that mode
2018-02-15T03:00:09 < aandrew> so default state of all those signals is 1, and with that logic there, it should enable FPGA JTAG and route TDO to FTDI in that mode
2018-02-15T03:00:48 < aandrew> similarly, the ULPI interface will be held in reset which routes USB to the FT2232, and the STM32's UART TXD will make it to B channel RXD
2018-02-15T03:01:42 < aandrew> if I want to switch to SWD mode, I have to explicitly set ACBUS5 low which disables the FPGA and routes SWDIO to TDO (an input)
2018-02-15T03:02:00 < aandrew> and if I want to see SWO instead of UART I set ACBUS6 low
2018-02-15T03:02:59 < aandrew> if I want to let the STM32 have the USB bus, the last thing I can do is to tell the FT2232 to set ACBUS7 low, which will take the ULPI PHY out of reset, and the STM32 will see the link come up
2018-02-15T03:03:35 < aandrew> if I want to give control back to the FT2232 the STM32 can reset the ULPI PHY which connects USB back to the FT2232 without disturbing its settings
2018-02-15T03:05:47 < aandrew> so that STM32 has a 2Mx32-bit PSRAM interface to the FPGA, an RMII interface to it and USB2-HS
2018-02-15T03:06:03 < aandrew> the FPGA's got RGMII to the LAN and RMII to the STM32
2018-02-15T03:06:09 < aandrew> now to finish up the analog side of it
2018-02-15T03:06:15 < aandrew> this is gonna take me 2 weeks to route
2018-02-15T03:10:55 < Thorn> https://t.me/telecatethysis/253485
2018-02-15T03:12:35 < englishman> thorn do you use telegram a lot
2018-02-15T03:13:27 < Thorn> englishman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sBjWmJQpUs
2018-02-15T03:13:48 < englishman> lol
2018-02-15T03:14:51 < englishman> do russians in general use telegram over other services
2018-02-15T03:15:47 < Thorn> it looks pretty popular, there're even news channels there
2018-02-15T03:16:13 < Thorn> (most are paid propaganda lol)
2018-02-15T03:16:40 < englishman> like with snapchat i guess, though ive never used snapchat, thats just what i read in financial dox
2018-02-15T03:17:06 < englishman> telegram is pretty nice as a messenger, i do prefer it to signal, hangouts etc
2018-02-15T03:17:31 < englishman> and if it means that putin gets to see my dick pics, all the better
2018-02-15T03:20:39 < Thorn> well whatever access he has must have been obtained through hacking or recruiting an agent from the team. Durov is not his friend (after being forced to surrender vk.com and emigrate) and will not make deals with him afaict
2018-02-15T03:36:29 < Thorn> >If can use low temperature, then do not high temperature.
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2018-02-15T03:53:03 < sync> yeah iirc russia was trying to ban telegram
2018-02-15T03:53:19 < sync> their crypto, or lack there of sucks tho
2018-02-15T03:53:25 < sync> but > 2018
2018-02-15T03:53:27 < sync> > crypo
2018-02-15T03:53:41 < sync> especially on x86
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2018-02-15T03:56:57 < englishman> kgb, masters of deception
2018-02-15T04:24:14 < upgrdman> minuteman missile guidance computer   https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Autonetics_D-17.JPG
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2018-02-15T04:29:17 < Thorn> Jim Willliams had boards from one of them hanging on his wall iirc
2018-02-15T04:29:29 < upgrdman> :)  https://gfycat.com/HollowHandsomeAmethystgemclam
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2018-02-15T05:29:09 < unregisterednick> hi
2018-02-15T05:29:47 < unregisterednick> are tritium batteries cool for powering mcu?   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fOG5IZLECk
2018-02-15T05:32:22 < englishman> haha
2018-02-15T05:32:25 < englishman> yes definitely
2018-02-15T05:32:31 < englishman> also, hello and welcome
2018-02-15T05:40:01 < Thorn> >Each one of these chips holds 512 bits, or in modern units, that's slightly less than half a tweet
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2018-02-15T06:32:44 < dongs> https://twitter.com/xbs/status/963796410100604929 lmao
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2018-02-15T06:44:02 < upgrdman> https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/7xiqqq/nkorea_cheerleaders_reaction_to_kim_jong_un/
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2018-02-15T08:53:18 < dongs> yep
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2018-02-15T10:47:53 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS8sK6f195k meanwhile in japan, pumping hard
2018-02-15T10:49:18 < dongs> quickly /nick stvn then
2018-02-15T10:53:00 < Steffanx> That aint lvl asian yet...
2018-02-15T10:53:49 < Steffanx> Still nice thougj (imho)
2018-02-15T10:58:12 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkAFDP5lmGg&t=3m20s
2018-02-15T10:58:16 < dongs> production line pumping
2018-02-15T11:04:10 < qyx> so much cellz
2018-02-15T11:04:14 < qyx> and that soldering :S
2018-02-15T11:05:20 < fest> dongs: wtf is that japanese show with dog being walked around by monkey?
2018-02-15T11:05:47 < dongs> no idea
2018-02-15T11:05:52 < dongs> what are you talking about
2018-02-15T11:05:53 < dongs> i dont watch jap tv
2018-02-15T11:06:46 < fest> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDNzJNsCA7E
2018-02-15T11:06:58 < dongs> > funny
2018-02-15T11:06:59 < dongs> > 2015
2018-02-15T11:07:04 < dongs> no idea
2018-02-15T11:07:40 < fest> https://www.youtube.com/user/PanVsJames
2018-02-15T11:07:52 < fest> This video is about young genius Chimpanzee in Japan named Pankun and his Bulldog Sidekick, named James, doing various human task like buying groceries, planting, cooking or searching fruits in forests
2018-02-15T11:15:43 < dongs> sounds more retarded than shit laurence/b/ posts
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2018-02-15T11:19:38 < fest> good, then I have found the right home for this material
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2018-02-15T11:39:27 < stvn> i missed the link dump
2018-02-15T11:40:21 < karlp> actual truly lunix aids: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/watchdog/watchdog-api.txt#n219
2018-02-15T11:41:34 < stvn> karlp, i thought u were linux pumper
2018-02-15T11:41:56 < karlp> I am, but doesn't mean I won't say when it's doign somethign dumb
2018-02-15T11:42:00 < karlp> fuckng freedom units
2018-02-15T11:42:04 < karlp> who would do such a thing
2018-02-15T11:42:05 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-15T11:42:12 < stvn> have c will code
2018-02-15T11:44:26 < zyp> watchdog temperature sounds super useful
2018-02-15T11:45:04 < karlp> sure, but fucking farenheit?!
2018-02-15T11:45:30 < zyp> hmm, oh, having temperature makes sense since it can do overtemp resets and shit
2018-02-15T11:45:40 < zyp> and yeah, fuck farenheit
2018-02-15T11:45:53 < zyp> but who cares, wrap it in a function that converts to celcius
2018-02-15T11:46:22 < zyp> or kelvin or whatever shit you like
2018-02-15T11:48:44 < karlp> yes, but in what world should the API for watchdogs define that it should return a temp in farenheit. that's just fucking insane.
2018-02-15T11:49:06 < karlp> this isn't an _example_ this is the defined api.
2018-02-15T11:51:04 < stvn> dems fighting words
2018-02-15T11:58:33 < Steffanx> Lol fahrenheit.
2018-02-15T12:01:38 < stvn> fucken seppos
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2018-02-15T12:12:38 < stvn> https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/1/3/797
2018-02-15T12:12:40 < stvn> the cook
2018-02-15T12:12:55 < karlp> repost
2018-02-15T12:14:58 < stvn> isnt it all
2018-02-15T12:17:32 < dongs> what
2018-02-15T12:17:35 < dongs> that shit is more than a month old
2018-02-15T12:18:09 < stvn> dunno why its almost at the top
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2018-02-15T12:31:29 < stvn> The computer shop wants me to write a review for my latest purchases
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2018-02-15T12:31:36 < stvn> i7-8700
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2018-02-15T12:31:47 < stvn> -goes really good with IRC
2018-02-15T12:31:51 < dongs> tell them how much it improved your pumping
2018-02-15T12:32:10 < stvn> -much preferred hardware for pumping, senpai uses it to innovate too
2018-02-15T12:32:23 < stvn> -ohsix is still AWOL
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2018-02-15T12:47:46 < Laurenceb_> The Cubans!
2018-02-15T12:47:54 < Laurenceb_> now they are fully American
2018-02-15T12:49:49 < stvn> not even going to ask dr.b
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2018-02-15T12:50:45 < Laurenceb_> >escape to Murica
2018-02-15T12:50:51 < Laurenceb_> >want to be fully murican
2018-02-15T12:50:56 < Laurenceb_> >shoot up a school
2018-02-15T12:51:04 < Laurenceb_> >now u r 100% murican
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2018-02-15T12:57:13 < stvn> the septic tanks
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2018-02-15T13:10:20 < stvn> the shatted pot
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2018-02-15T14:09:25 < dongs> found beg jones
2018-02-15T14:09:39 < dongs> hes not gonna get any love from this channel
2018-02-15T14:10:01 < dongs> i will answer beg jones STM32 questions for a daily patreon donation
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2018-02-15T14:10:54 < PaulFertser> Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
2018-02-15T14:11:12 < Dave_Elec> dongs: sorry i am having a really bad connection problem
2018-02-15T14:11:23 < dongs> i can imagine
2018-02-15T14:11:28 < dongs> I'm surprised you even have internet there
2018-02-15T14:11:35 < Dave_Elec> haha..
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2018-02-15T14:30:42 < Laurenceb> woah
2018-02-15T14:30:47 < Laurenceb> is dat some e-celeb
2018-02-15T14:31:13 < Laurenceb> the Lauren Southern of electronics
2018-02-15T14:31:33 < Laurenceb> maybe he will send us dick shots in return for patreon
2018-02-15T14:32:11 < Laurenceb> superbia1: did you just shoot up a school?
2018-02-15T14:33:29 < zyp> he didn't say he feel american now
2018-02-15T14:33:58 < Laurenceb> yeah but to be a huwhite murican u have to shoot up a school
2018-02-15T14:34:05 < Laurenceb> otherwise u are just a dirty spic
2018-02-15T14:36:24 < Laurenceb> where is eevblog on here http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/956/835/120.jpg_large
2018-02-15T14:36:32 < Laurenceb> also lol @ babby Sargon
2018-02-15T14:36:37 < Laurenceb> maybe I can shake it
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2018-02-15T14:36:57 < Laurenceb> ^trolled 2 death
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2018-02-15T14:47:01 < dongs> < Laurenceb> where is eevblog on here http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/956/835/120.jpg_large which of these are men
2018-02-15T14:47:05 < dongs> im guessing all right
2018-02-15T14:47:26 < Laurenceb> its the internet so all of them
2018-02-15T14:47:48 < Laurenceb> but Sargon is actually a grrrl
2018-02-15T14:48:32 < Laurenceb> inb4 father is Mercedes Carrera
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2018-02-15T15:07:32 < dongs> a patreon scam
2018-02-15T15:07:59 < zyp> should I get a patreon?
2018-02-15T15:08:05 < dongs> definitely
2018-02-15T15:08:19 < dongs> patron per line of irc chat
2018-02-15T15:08:41 < zyp> haha
2018-02-15T15:08:57 < Laurenceb> https://www.patreon.com/jordanbpeterson top cringe
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2018-02-15T15:16:20 < dongs> https://www.patreon.com/swordandscale t his faggot sucks
2018-02-15T15:16:48 < dongs> "hi, please pay me for shittily blogging"
2018-02-15T15:18:08 < dongs> (also i will make sure to blog about shit i have no idea bout)
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2018-02-15T15:18:55 < dongs> its funny how all thse "high profile" patreons have hidden their monthly revenue
2018-02-15T15:19:03 < dongs> that shithead is pulling at least 10k+/month for doing fuckall
2018-02-15T15:19:14 < dongs> so yes zyp
2018-02-15T15:19:17 < dongs> do start a patreon
2018-02-15T15:20:08 < dongs> pumping
2018-02-15T15:21:52 < jpa-> fortunately finland forbids its citizens from getting money for nothing
2018-02-15T15:22:31 < zyp> wat
2018-02-15T15:22:59 < Steffanx> It aint nothing. How do they define nothing?
2018-02-15T15:23:25 < jpa-> Steffanx: not giving a product / service to the person who paid you
2018-02-15T15:23:25 < zyp> that ain't working, that's the way you do it
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2018-02-15T15:23:48 < jpa-> otherwise it gets classed as a "charity money collection" and has very strict rules on how you have to manage that
2018-02-15T15:23:59 < Steffanx> The things politicians do qualify as nothing
2018-02-15T15:24:07 < Steffanx> I bet they work for free
2018-02-15T15:24:21 < jpa-> i guess giving some special updates for patreon subscribers counts as something, though
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2018-02-15T15:26:24 < Steffanx> You can go self-employed and say its your job, jpa- ?
2018-02-15T15:26:28 < Steffanx> Cant*
2018-02-15T15:27:06 < Laurenceb> lel http://www.mega-nerd.com/SRC/api_misc.html
2018-02-15T15:27:14 < Laurenceb> ALSA uses that shit internally
2018-02-15T15:27:40 < dongs> haha ALSA api is fucking insane
2018-02-15T15:27:42 < jpa-> Steffanx: the law is actually about asking for money for nothing; one can receive gifts but not ask for them (publicly)
2018-02-15T15:27:46 < dongs> especialyl their mixer shit
2018-02-15T15:27:57 < Laurenceb> I'm a gunna b lazy
2018-02-15T15:28:01 < jpa-> Steffanx: e.g. if i'd put a link on my webpage that said "donate me money if you like my blogs" it'd be illegal
2018-02-15T15:28:05 < Laurenceb> and use ALSA for my mics
2018-02-15T15:28:11 < Laurenceb> rather than code all the dsp in Qt
2018-02-15T15:28:28 < jpa-> Steffanx: but if you just happened to send me bitcoins, it would be ok
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2018-02-15T15:31:47 < Laurenceb> wew they stole it from here https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/resample/
2018-02-15T15:33:57 < Steffanx> I would do that, but zyp has my buttcoins, jpa- :P
2018-02-15T15:34:45 < jpa-> and i don't even have a wallet :P
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2018-02-15T15:44:07 < zyp> aww
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2018-02-15T15:44:34 < Lux> any suggestions for a >=10A connector for plugging a battery onto a pcb ?
2018-02-15T15:45:22 < dongs> lux, throhg-hole mount a XT60
2018-02-15T15:46:00 < dongs> make plated though-hole pads, sodler it in
2018-02-15T15:46:45 < jpa-> http://jpa.kapsi.fi/stuff/pix/ebikectrl_soldered.jpg    use bunch of screw terminals and abikos ;)
2018-02-15T15:47:09 < dongs> nice
2018-02-15T15:47:19 < zyp> Steffanx, I've got them stored on a stm32
2018-02-15T15:47:40 < dongs> <zyp> i have stm32 calculating more buttcoins
2018-02-15T15:47:48 < zyp> no, just storing
2018-02-15T15:47:51 < Lux> yeah, I guess xt60 would be an option
2018-02-15T15:48:01 < dongs> really, ive seen it done.. somewehre
2018-02-15T15:48:01 < Lux> but those screw terminals look nice too :)
2018-02-15T15:48:10 < karlp> "abikos" ?
2018-02-15T15:48:41 < jpa-> https://kompo2010.wikispaces.com/file/view/Abikot.JPG/118291819/320x240/Abikot.JPG   that kind of things
2018-02-15T15:48:53 < zyp> dongs, well, sure, anything that can calculate sha256 technically can
2018-02-15T15:49:40 < jpa-> http://jpa.kapsi.fi/stuff/pix/P1010600.webm   you can see them connected there (sorry for shaky hands)
2018-02-15T15:49:40 < zyp> jpa-, i.e. fork cable lugs
2018-02-15T15:49:46 < jpa-> zyp: thanks :)
2018-02-15T15:50:03 < dongs> zyp, isn't there sha256 accelerator in -CRYPT thing on F417/wahtever has crypto?
2018-02-15T15:51:03 < dongs> jpa-: thats a spade terminaql
2018-02-15T15:51:17 < dongs> (learned this when making cables with that shit for zyp
2018-02-15T15:53:52 < Laurenceb> wew
2018-02-15T15:54:00 < Laurenceb> >shaker guys ask me for help again
2018-02-15T15:54:16 < zyp> dongs, fork, not spade
2018-02-15T15:54:23 < Laurenceb> >their output shake signal is full of harmonics, but they dont know why
2018-02-15T15:54:41 < Laurenceb> >they have a 300x300x50mm steel block on top of the shaker
2018-02-15T15:54:52 < Laurenceb> >shaker is hitting end stops
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2018-02-15T16:06:26 < qyx> are they shaking babies with a 300x300x50mm steel block?
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2018-02-15T16:13:08 < dongs> so how do you niggas do say FAT32 on a 64k-block-flash
2018-02-15T16:13:24 < dongs> gotta do some emulation / fucking around before committing a full block?
2018-02-15T16:13:54 < dongs> not even sure how the actual filesystem shit would work there (lets assume there's no 64k ram to buffer entire block)
2018-02-15T16:14:03 < zyp> just use the first 4k of each block, nobody needs the remaining 60k
2018-02-15T16:14:08 < dongs> lmao
2018-02-15T16:14:12 < dongs> thats pretty fuciing pro but no
2018-02-15T16:14:36 < Laurenceb> is there a standard for usb gps dongles?
2018-02-15T16:14:39 < Laurenceb> inb4 donglegate
2018-02-15T16:15:30 < zyp> dongs, well, if you can't buffer the entire block, you have a problem
2018-02-15T16:15:31 < dongs> "hey boss we need some 1gbyte flash to store 64megs of data
2018-02-15T16:16:30 < dongs> zyp, really? I thought fatfs had something to work with "larger than block size page sizes"
2018-02-15T16:16:33 < dongs> but I donno waht it does with it
2018-02-15T16:16:36 < zyp> first confirm that you can actually do partial writes even if erase size is 64k
2018-02-15T16:16:38 < dongs> is buffering the onyl way?
2018-02-15T16:16:41 < dongs> you can
2018-02-15T16:16:45 < dongs> thats standard
2018-02-15T16:16:54 < dongs> writes are page-based
2018-02-15T16:16:58 < dongs> or direct address/whatever
2018-02-15T16:16:59 < dongs> thats fine
2018-02-15T16:17:02 < dongs> but erase is 64k
2018-02-15T16:17:06 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-15T16:17:28 < dongs> i mean, its not something im wanting to do but just wondering how woudl a pro handle it
2018-02-15T16:17:42 < dongs> on SD card when you do MSD with USB shit its just directly mapped
2018-02-15T16:17:48 < dongs> since SD handles erase shit internally
2018-02-15T16:17:50 < dongs> but with SPI flash?
2018-02-15T16:18:24 < zyp> okay, if you can write subpages and you only need to rewrite one, you copy the others over to a new flash page
2018-02-15T16:18:38 < zyp> then once everything is copies, you erase and free the old page
2018-02-15T16:18:48 < dongs> that only works for actual FS shit
2018-02-15T16:18:51 < zyp> this could be done as part of a wear levelling layer
2018-02-15T16:18:58 < dongs> i mean files
2018-02-15T16:19:02 < dongs> what about FAT or wahtever
2018-02-15T16:19:03 < zyp> or you could build it into the FS
2018-02-15T16:19:14 < dongs> you can't just arbitrary dmove shit
2018-02-15T16:19:22 < dongs> so like, have a page somewhere for scratch writing?
2018-02-15T16:19:27 < dongs> build a new 64k block, then copy it?
2018-02-15T16:19:40 < zyp> sure you can arbitrarily write it
2018-02-15T16:20:23 < zyp> if you have a separate wear levelling layer under the FS layer then when FS asks for whatever offset it keeps the FAT at, wear levelling layer grabs it from where it was last stored
2018-02-15T16:21:07 < dongs> i guess nobody sane does fat on large-page flash right
2018-02-15T16:21:08 < zyp> with wear levelling built into the FS implementation, FS itself doesn't expect FAT to be in a fixed spot
2018-02-15T16:21:09 < dongs> with shitty ram
2018-02-15T16:21:19 < zyp> probably not
2018-02-15T16:21:55 < zyp> I guess you'd use jffs2 or something
2018-02-15T16:23:27 < jpa-> "flash file system" in general is what you want to search for
2018-02-15T16:26:19 < Rob235> wheres my printer!
2018-02-15T16:26:33 < Rob235> I hate waiting :)
2018-02-15T16:27:47 < Steffanx> I hate haters.
2018-02-15T16:27:54 < dongs> i hate heaters
2018-02-15T16:28:09 < Steffanx> Yes you are cold as ice. Like a finlander
2018-02-15T16:28:14 < Rob235> :)
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2018-02-15T16:36:38 < qyx> steal a spiflash fs from githubs
2018-02-15T16:37:08 < qyx> I mean the spiffs
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2018-02-15T17:10:09 < dongs> President Trump will address the nation about the Florida school shooting today at 11 a.m. ET, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders says
2018-02-15T17:12:20 < englishman> ...by commenting on that one video on worldstar
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2018-02-15T17:23:54 < dongs> Transgender woman breastfeeds baby in first recorded case, study says
2018-02-15T17:23:59 < dongs> what a time to be alive
2018-02-15T17:24:28 < Steffanx> What a time to give a damn right, dr blaxter.
2018-02-15T17:24:45 < Steffanx> I mean dongs.
2018-02-15T17:30:32 < dongs> pfft
2018-02-15T17:30:39 < dongs> you're just a gender-hater
2018-02-15T17:30:39 < Steffanx> :P
2018-02-15T17:30:48 < Steffanx> Hah i know right.
2018-02-15T17:30:52 < dongs> you won't stop me from identifying as a homosexual attack helicopter
2018-02-15T17:31:08 < Steffanx> Will you make mini helicopters?
2018-02-15T17:32:36 < qyx> theres a helicopter flying here atm
2018-02-15T17:32:56 < BrainDamage> is one of dongs' spawns?
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2018-02-15T17:33:30 < Steffanx> Wanna post this gif now, but thats blaxter ware.. but...
2018-02-15T17:33:59 < BrainDamage> http://img.memecdn.com/theres-no-need-to-be-upset_o_806013.gif
2018-02-15T17:34:08 < Steffanx> Such dilemma
2018-02-15T17:34:16 < BrainDamage> solved it for you
2018-02-15T17:34:33 < Steffanx> Not that. A spinning dongs.
2018-02-15T17:34:43 < Steffanx> -s
2018-02-15T17:34:44 < BrainDamage> still sufficiently relevant
2018-02-15T17:34:58 < Steffanx> Yes sir
2018-02-15T17:34:59 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgLzrTPkdgI i think you meant this
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2018-02-15T17:48:09 < kakimir> anyone played with high side smart switches?
2018-02-15T17:49:03 < kakimir> I got one working in my prototype but I need advice picking a bit bigger - inexpensive one
2018-02-15T17:49:27 < kakimir> all the nominal current stuff is a bit vague
2018-02-15T17:49:30 < kakimir> in data sheets
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2018-02-15T18:13:56 < ffffffffffffffff> @ dongs https://img.fae.ro/ca7975.jpeg
2018-02-15T18:17:44 < kakimir> keep level - juices may drip
2018-02-15T18:17:51 < kakimir> SFW
2018-02-15T18:18:11 < kakimir> I need maybe to connect via VPN
2018-02-15T18:18:23 < kakimir> they do some monitoring
2018-02-15T18:18:54 < kakimir> but wait.. I use shttp everywhere
2018-02-15T18:19:09 < kakimir> that means url is not visible to middleman?
2018-02-15T18:19:17 < kakimir> but the domain
2018-02-15T18:21:37 < dongs> zyp, in a usb-C hub who handles port orientation?
2018-02-15T18:22:01 < zyp> in what sense?
2018-02-15T18:22:07 < dongs> like i have 4 usb-c ports
2018-02-15T18:22:09 < dongs> from a hub
2018-02-15T18:22:21 < dongs> who does lane swapping
2018-02-15T18:22:28 < dongs> for when shit is plugged in
2018-02-15T18:22:30 < zyp> both
2018-02-15T18:22:39 < sync> and you want to ban people plugging in the plug backwards?
2018-02-15T18:23:32 < dongs> sync a ban for that would be like sending 110V into their USB device
2018-02-15T18:23:40 < zyp> either plug can be inserted normal way or inverted, each end swaps the lanes in their sockets so the signals always end up travelling the same pairs in the cable
2018-02-15T18:23:54 < sync> well, usb c has an orientation thing
2018-02-15T18:23:58 < dongs> zyp, so i would need some kinda lane swapper trash in the hub?
2018-02-15T18:24:04 < sync> so you know which way the plug is plugged in
2018-02-15T18:24:06 < zyp> if it's a usb3 hub, yes
2018-02-15T18:24:17 < dongs> ive been wondering why the fuck ehre arent that many actual type C hubs
2018-02-15T18:24:18 < karlp> usb-c hub,
2018-02-15T18:24:21 < dongs> when they have that type C dongle thing
2018-02-15T18:24:25 < dongs> and they have type A ports
2018-02-15T18:24:32 < dongs> but they *never* have type C ports in that shit.
2018-02-15T18:24:58 < zyp> probably because there's not a lot of type-C devices yet, so there's not a big demand for dumb C host ports
2018-02-15T18:25:20 < dongs> https://www.yodobashi.com/product/100000001002734636/
2018-02-15T18:25:25 < dongs> looks like shit like this exists
2018-02-15T18:25:36 < dongs> so , the 2 C ports there hve some crap to swap lanes based on cc1/2?
2018-02-15T18:25:41 < zyp> yes
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2018-02-15T18:27:03 < kakimir> is there any possible way to use usb-c for variable voltage power
2018-02-15T18:27:16 < kakimir> to say lipo without using regulators in lipo pack side
2018-02-15T18:27:18 < karlp> sure
2018-02-15T18:27:24 < karlp> don't need -c for that
2018-02-15T18:27:35 < karlp> usb 3.1 has the variable voltage stuff
2018-02-15T18:27:37 < kakimir> I mean 4S voltage range
2018-02-15T18:27:51 < kakimir> totally variable from 16.8 to something
2018-02-15T18:28:09 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/product/HD3SS2522 so someshit like this?
2018-02-15T18:28:26 < dongs> h thats 2:1
2018-02-15T18:28:29 < dongs> shit needs to be jsut 1:1
2018-02-15T18:29:54 < karlp> kakimir: go read the usb3.1 spec yourself
2018-02-15T18:30:21 < kakimir> karlp, thanks
2018-02-15T18:30:34 < dongs> Type A USB 3.1 can do more than 5V?
2018-02-15T18:30:36 < dongs> i dont think so..
2018-02-15T18:30:45 < dongs> it has no PD-type signalling to do this over?
2018-02-15T18:31:17 < karlp> hrm, thought it was in 3.1 (not 3.0) but might have been wrong
2018-02-15T18:32:12 < kakimir> so who is right and wrong and which standard has it?
2018-02-15T18:32:36 < zyp> kakimir, no, it's not possible
2018-02-15T18:32:52 < zyp> USB-PD does variable voltage stuff, but not like you're asking for
2018-02-15T18:33:41 < karlp> why not?
2018-02-15T18:33:48 < karlp> you can do whatever you want with the power.
2018-02-15T18:34:15 < zyp> I believe it's fixed step
2018-02-15T18:34:22 < karlp> yeah, but they're very fine.
2018-02-15T18:34:56 < zyp> are they? I thought they were typically 3V steps or so
2018-02-15T18:36:11 < dongs> pretty sure its way finer than that
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2018-02-15T18:37:36 < zyp> in what sense? what the standard allows or what chargers will actually provide?
2018-02-15T18:37:48 < karlp> what the standards allow :)
2018-02-15T18:40:14 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-15T18:40:19 < dongs> maybe its not PD im thinking of
2018-02-15T18:40:25 < dongs> that has variable shit
2018-02-15T18:40:31 < dongs> but shitcomm quickcharge or something
2018-02-15T18:40:41 < dongs> all the docs im seeing on PD only talk about 5/9/12/20
2018-02-15T18:41:46 < kakimir> I wonder if there is usb power supply solution that would give me easily 4S lipo BMS and variable voltage output thru USB-C
2018-02-15T18:41:56 < dongs> no
2018-02-15T18:42:03 < kakimir> that is what I thought
2018-02-15T18:42:03 < dongs> back to the autistic drawing board, kikemir
2018-02-15T18:42:27 < Laurenceb> http://online.liebertpub.com/doi/pdfplus/10.1089/trgh.2017.0044
2018-02-15T18:42:51 < dongs> is that the document the article refers to?
2018-02-15T18:43:00 < Laurenceb> literally yes
2018-02-15T18:43:06 < Laurenceb> >autistic pumping
2018-02-15T18:44:18 < Laurenceb>  "following a 6 year course of b& drugs"
2018-02-15T18:44:21 < dongs> gross
2018-02-15T18:44:31 < dongs> i like how the paper starts off with "history of present ilness"
2018-02-15T18:44:36 < dongs> at least they're properly labeling it
2018-02-15T18:44:38 < Laurenceb> no shit
2018-02-15T18:45:43 < dongs> ok bed
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2018-02-15T18:59:35 < Laurenceb> which 1 is ur waifu? https://imgoat.com/uploads/3db85ed909/85605.png
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2018-02-15T19:05:59 < karlp> hrm, yeah, the usb-pd stuff is all fixed voltages, I'm sure I was looking at something that was ramping voltages by negotiation
2018-02-15T19:06:59 < kakimir> I need something that supply side could just output anything
2018-02-15T19:07:01 < kakimir> in range
2018-02-15T19:07:16 < kakimir> and device side just need do deal with it
2018-02-15T19:07:36 < kakimir> but I'm looking at PLC AFEs now
2018-02-15T19:08:36 < kakimir> it's really borderline affordable solution to message in DC rail
2018-02-15T19:08:43 < kakimir> comms in DC
2018-02-15T19:09:10 < kakimir> AFE031 is the cheapest actually available chip this far I have found
2018-02-15T19:09:13 < sync> the question would be, why
2018-02-15T19:09:54 < kakimir> I need to negotiate power related stuff
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2018-02-15T19:11:17 < kakimir> between multiple lipo pack options and multiple devices
2018-02-15T19:11:21 < kakimir> using same connector system
2018-02-15T19:11:34 < kakimir> possibly even multiple devices using one lipo pack
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2018-02-15T19:13:19 < kakimir> pack voltage configurations may vary
2018-02-15T19:13:27 < kakimir> so there is negotiation voltage supply
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2018-02-15T19:15:35 < kakimir> device says yeah - I can take that and pack switches supply from BMS Dischage control on and negotiation LDO off
2018-02-15T19:16:43 < kakimir> then device asks like give me 20W - pack says yeah. another device says in the same line hey give me 100W - pack says nope
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2018-02-15T19:17:52 < kakimir> no dongs to call my autism
2018-02-15T19:18:02 < kakimir> but what do you guise think?
2018-02-15T19:18:46 < karlp> you've never really described what you're actually trying to do as I understand it.
2018-02-15T19:21:04 < kakimir> I have lipo supplies and devices, any lipo can be connected to any device
2018-02-15T19:21:21 < kakimir> I want robust tx rx in the DC line
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2018-02-15T19:56:37 < Laurenceb> wew
2018-02-15T19:56:45 < Laurenceb> gpsd has imu functions
2018-02-15T19:57:44 < Laurenceb> run flight controller using gpsd on rpi, what could go wrong...
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2018-02-15T20:10:07 < c10ud> I've seen worse
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2018-02-15T20:17:53 < unregisterednick> who needs breadboard? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZcX6kO3Tg
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2018-02-15T20:32:58 < jpa-> dongs: was this you?  https://i.imgur.com/9tUJZCE.png
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2018-02-15T20:34:39 < kakimir> anyone here have rolled their own silicon?
2018-02-15T20:37:55 < PaulFertser> kakimir: r2comm has
2018-02-15T20:39:14 < kakimir> oh
2018-02-15T20:39:26 < kakimir> he is more pro I thought
2018-02-15T20:39:32 < kakimir> better respect him
2018-02-15T20:40:20 < kakimir> do you draw silicon like you draw pcb?
2018-02-15T20:41:32 < kakimir> I mean in small designs
2018-02-15T20:41:50 < BrainDamage> in small designs you don't draw silicon
2018-02-15T20:42:13 < BrainDamage> you take a grid array of transistors of equal geometry and you just design the metal layer ( wiring )
2018-02-15T20:42:45 < BrainDamage> you series and parallel them to get an equivalently larger transistor (W/L)
2018-02-15T20:42:47 < kakimir> interesting
2018-02-15T20:42:52 < kakimir> very interesting
2018-02-15T20:44:22 < BrainDamage> don't think it's that trivial, transistors and wires have capacitance, etc
2018-02-15T20:44:30 < BrainDamage> so the wires aren't ... simple wires
2018-02-15T20:44:43 < BrainDamage> designing an ic is learning to design with parasitics
2018-02-15T20:46:21 < kakimir> had prototype working today at work
2018-02-15T20:46:29 < kakimir> *got
2018-02-15T20:46:42 < unregisterednick> kakimir: ask him? ;>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHWia5K7Hso
2018-02-15T20:46:55 < unregisterednick> he did this and does not even have a cross screwdriver lel
2018-02-15T20:47:20 < kakimir> is it you?
2018-02-15T20:47:42 < unregisterednick> i do have screwdrivers
2018-02-15T20:48:59 < kakimir> https://twitter.com/EnglishRussia1/status/964160356225617922 hmmm
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2018-02-15T20:56:47 < kakimir> why so low res
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2018-02-15T21:01:38 < unregisterednick> i dont know about you but i have not seen anything like this quality for sale at affordable price around here yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfku1lMPP1k  lithium battery operated soldering iron, and they can even diy this in india...
2018-02-15T21:02:06 < kakimir> please
2018-02-15T21:02:26 < kakimir> ts100 ftw
2018-02-15T21:03:30 < BrainDamage> ^
2018-02-15T21:03:37 < BrainDamage> works perfectly
2018-02-15T21:04:46 < kakimir> unregisterednick, are you from India?
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2018-02-15T21:06:53 < unregisterednick> kakimir: noh im in center of europe
2018-02-15T21:07:07 < kakimir> then ts100
2018-02-15T21:07:16 < kakimir> if you want to solder
2018-02-15T21:07:39 < kakimir> or diy if you want to experiment diy soldering
2018-02-15T21:08:00 < BrainDamage> do it if you want a cute project
2018-02-15T21:08:11 < kakimir> it's not cute
2018-02-15T21:08:12 < BrainDamage> if you want to get a reliable tool that works, get the ts100
2018-02-15T21:08:14 < unregisterednick> thanks that is not good enough for me, i am developing one
2018-02-15T21:08:22 < Steffanx> wb polymorph.
2018-02-15T21:08:43 < unregisterednick> sup Steffanx
2018-02-15T21:08:52 < Steffanx> Tha sky, i think.
2018-02-15T21:08:54 < kakimir> ts100 is at level with some pro irons
2018-02-15T21:09:32 < kakimir> unregisterednick, at least use proper integrated heater tip for your project
2018-02-15T21:09:48 < kakimir> it's the soul of the soldering iron
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2018-02-15T21:10:36 < unregisterednick> i have soldering irons, and even heat guns, and i can pulse tig weld 1mm things, but i want a better small battery operated smd hacking soldering iron
2018-02-15T21:11:46 < kakimir> ts100 + ralim firmware + lipo from hobbyking
2018-02-15T21:12:02 < kakimir> ralim has UVCO
2018-02-15T21:15:38 < kakimir> if you want soldering iron that works from one 18650 and has proper heating power you need a premium li-ion cell and still fall short from ideal heating power
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2018-02-15T21:16:58 < kakimir> Dave Jones joined channel? oh..
2018-02-15T21:17:03 < kakimir> gone
2018-02-15T21:17:51 < XTL> 15 seconds of fame for the channel
2018-02-15T21:18:07 < kakimir> Ethiopian ip
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2018-02-15T21:28:49 < kakimir> didn't understand the reference
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2018-02-15T21:29:20 < Steffanx> dont ask. ;)
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2018-02-15T21:36:27 < kakimir> it's confusing what he said
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2018-02-15T21:38:44 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYLBjScgb7o
2018-02-15T21:38:50 < Laurenceb> worlds most annoying british guy
2018-02-15T21:40:51 < kakimir> interesting
2018-02-15T21:41:59 < Laurenceb> sounds are surely fake
2018-02-15T21:42:07 < Laurenceb> and he seems to have teleported from 1970s
2018-02-15T21:42:16 < Laurenceb> lol @ safety pin in ear
2018-02-15T21:44:20 < sync> v edgy
2018-02-15T21:44:43 < Laurenceb> 1970s edgelord
2018-02-15T21:45:00 < Steffanx> <Laurenceb> worlds most annoying british guy
2018-02-15T21:45:02 < Steffanx> LOLZ.
2018-02-15T21:45:11 < Laurenceb> I'm not on youtube
2018-02-15T21:45:12 < Laurenceb> qed
2018-02-15T21:45:18 < BrainDamage> yes you are
2018-02-15T21:45:24 < BrainDamage> do have i to link it again?
2018-02-15T21:45:43 < Laurenceb> >as a youtube channel
2018-02-15T21:45:46 < Steffanx> haha. i know you are too
2018-02-15T21:46:25 < BrainDamage> you as in me or faprecenb? because I'm not aware of any youtube video I'm in
2018-02-15T21:46:42 < Steffanx> no, i meant i know it too.
2018-02-15T21:48:32 < Steffanx> So mr b.
2018-02-15T21:48:58 < PaulFertser> Haha, I wear a safety pin (from a conference badge) too. I do not like punks but I share their aversion to the society.
2018-02-15T21:49:33 < BrainDamage> anarchist?
2018-02-15T21:50:37 < PaulFertser> I do not think something like anarchy can practically work, no.
2018-02-15T21:50:52 < Steffanx> Who is the other one with a batch, PaulFertser? Or do i have to watch Laurenceb's vid?
2018-02-15T21:50:59 < Steffanx> *badge lol
2018-02-15T21:51:20 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: yes, the annoying british guy wears a big safety pin, I wear a small one.
2018-02-15T21:53:01 < Steffanx> oh, dont expect me to actually watch does videos
2018-02-15T21:53:26 < PaulFertser> Why did he hardsubed it?
2018-02-15T21:53:53 < BrainDamage> because people can't into computers
2018-02-15T21:54:10 < BrainDamage> that includes both authors and consumers
2018-02-15T21:54:29 < upgrdman> anyone know if RJ45's with internal magnetics can go through a PCB cleaning? (submerged in alcohol, etc.)
2018-02-15T21:55:09 < BrainDamage> unless it's prolonged exposure to acetone you should be ok
2018-02-15T21:55:58 < Steffanx> ignore crt. he is early and still a bit sleep drunk.
2018-02-15T21:56:27 < Laurenceb> crt would enjoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYLBjScgb7o
2018-02-15T22:01:41 < Laurenceb> IntersexGayBisexualTransexuals?
2018-02-15T22:13:57 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWh4wcPNwgM
2018-02-15T22:14:25 < kakimir> is finlux, salora etc. still a thing in television markets in uk?
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2018-02-15T22:17:36 < Laurenceb> oh shits
2018-02-15T22:17:38 < Laurenceb> https://www.cobra.com/sites/default/files/manuals/CDR835_855BT_875G_895DMANUAL_VC_1.pdf
2018-02-15T22:17:41 < Laurenceb> page 19
2018-02-15T22:17:47 < Laurenceb> babby shit btfo
2018-02-15T22:18:51 < Laurenceb> I'd like to see how they embed gps and accel data in the video file
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2018-02-15T22:20:26 < Laurenceb> https://www.cobra.com/support/software-updates/downloads/drive-hd-dash-cam-player
2018-02-15T22:20:31 < Laurenceb> thats muh gui right there
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2018-02-15T22:21:33 < Laurenceb> looks like MOV files
2018-02-15T22:25:43 < Laurenceb> The ability to contain abstract data references for the media data, and the separation of the media data from the media offsets and the track edit lists means that QuickTime is particularly suited for editing
2018-02-15T22:25:51 < Laurenceb> time series databases btfo
2018-02-15T22:26:06 < Laurenceb> inb4 someone tries to do video editing in a time series database
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2018-02-15T22:27:09 < Ultrasauce> enjoy your timestamps in units of 1/90khz
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2018-02-15T22:31:02 < Laurenceb> hmm the Cobra has an accessories port
2018-02-15T22:31:13 < Laurenceb> inb4 I outsource the babby project to Cobra
2018-02-15T22:31:20 < Laurenceb> prob 5 min work for them
2018-02-15T22:32:01 < Laurenceb> lul it can even do self driving car shit
2018-02-15T22:32:31 < BrainDamage> mkv can also contain arbitrary data
2018-02-15T22:32:42 < BrainDamage> but very few tools will be able to handle that properly
2018-02-15T22:33:03 < Laurenceb> yeah, I looked at mkv libs and they were aweful
2018-02-15T22:33:31 < Laurenceb> is there a way to scrip windoze GUIs ?
2018-02-15T22:33:35 < Laurenceb> *script
2018-02-15T22:33:42 < Laurenceb> so emulate mouse movements?
2018-02-15T22:34:06 < Laurenceb> maybe I could just use mov libraries to pull the metadata out of the file
2018-02-15T22:34:16 < Laurenceb> looks like the cobra gui can do csv export
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2018-02-15T22:34:31 < Laurenceb> bbl
2018-02-15T22:34:34 < unregisterednick>   you don't have an IR desoldering station yet?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mq_5BWGnxU
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2018-02-15T22:44:12 < kakimir> unregisterednick, why everything has to be done with poor performance tools? Blower from ebay is 50dollars and if you need to heat the whole board all at once use 300W halogen ie.
2018-02-15T22:44:29 < Cracki> niiice, halogen soldering
2018-02-15T22:46:14 < Cracki> air flow is undesirable, I'd think
2018-02-15T22:46:24 < Cracki> I can picture this used to solder things back on too
2018-02-15T22:46:25 < kakimir> https://www.ikh.fi/images/wwwkuvat/Tuotekuvat/HGV007_S_1_web.jpg I have plan to preheat board with this type of thing
2018-02-15T22:46:54 < unregisterednick> Cracki: ya, a car headlight smd light soldering station lel
2018-02-15T22:47:16 < Cracki> put board on lamp, nice and toasty
2018-02-15T22:47:28 < Cracki> careful not to get blind however
2018-02-15T22:47:31 < unregisterednick> kakimir: you will need a distance of 30cm for an 500w like that...
2018-02-15T22:47:36 < Cracki> you can get the same effect with half a toaster
2018-02-15T22:48:00 < kakimir> unregisterednick, triac controller
2018-02-15T22:48:32 < unregisterednick> kakimir: i have tried 5 of those in a row, put a fan in, and a glass in front, put fiberglass board on top, start, fiberglass started to melt in 30 s
2018-02-15T22:49:25 < kakimir> full power is too much
2018-02-15T22:49:32 < unregisterednick> :)
2018-02-15T22:50:04 < kakimir> how about one on bottom and one on top?
2018-02-15T22:50:42 < kakimir> bottom one to preheat board with constant wattage to some 150C
2018-02-15T22:50:57 < kakimir> top one then does the soldering cycle
2018-02-15T22:53:16 < Cracki> human PID controller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouHsF4tNhk0
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2018-02-15T22:55:20 < unregisterednick> kakimir: anything that heats 80-180C under will work, even a hair dryer
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2018-02-15T22:56:48 < unregisterednick> [21:51] <Cracki> human PID controller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouHsF4tNhk0 - i can imagine 0% success rate with that high power
2018-02-15T22:56:58 < Cracki> aye
2018-02-15T22:57:33 < Cracki> as a westerner, I prefer tightly controllable tools
2018-02-15T22:58:28 < Cracki> at that distance, it'll have enormously uneven heat transfer
2018-02-15T22:59:27 < unregisterednick> Cracki: hotair is better yes, but resistors and capacitrs in SMd does nat care much
2018-02-15T23:00:06 < kaa> unregisterednick, there is 230V IR bulbs
2018-02-15T23:00:24 < Cracki> I'd at least want the corners of that processor to be hot enough before the blacktop in the middle starts melting
2018-02-15T23:00:45 < unregisterednick> it is also partially hotair with a halogen light, it heats up air around it too, you could add a fan and an aluminium pipe to it even a temp sensor
2018-02-15T23:01:29 < unregisterednick> here you have then your car headlamp ir+hotair soldering station
2018-02-15T23:02:10 < unregisterednick> kaa: a piece of wire works too...
2018-02-15T23:02:27 < unregisterednick> Cracki: yeah good idea :)
2018-02-15T23:03:19 < Cracki> the iron underneath isn't half bad. I'm glad he didn't put the board directly against it.
2018-02-15T23:04:01 < Cracki> boss sometimes likes to bake his boards before rework with soldering iron. joints do a lot easier.
2018-02-15T23:04:04 < Cracki> *go
2018-02-15T23:09:40 < unregisterednick> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6zBpl_NKIw   good, he forgot the heatsink for the 110W led though ;)
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2018-02-15T23:15:44 < kaa> "110W led"
2018-02-15T23:16:41 < kaa> you meant 10W
2018-02-15T23:16:58 < kaa> it will eventually burn during long soldering sessions
2018-02-15T23:17:32 < kaa> if full power used
2018-02-15T23:17:55 < Cracki> aye, that little thing might be 110W tungsten filament bulb equivalent
2018-02-15T23:18:34 < Cracki> the 300W actual power led lights I've seen are pcbs dotted with dozens of such LED rectangles
2018-02-15T23:18:44 < Cracki> those then have 10-100k lumen
2018-02-15T23:20:34 < kaa> https://www.lumileds.com/news/299/50/Lumileds-Transforms-High-Power-Category-with-1-700-Lumen-Single-Die-LED
2018-02-15T23:20:47 < unregisterednick> ka 10w
2018-02-15T23:21:16 < unregisterednick> kaa: copper foil would rescue it...
2018-02-15T23:21:38 < kaa> yes
2018-02-15T23:23:46 < unregisterednick> what if bull shits cowshit?
2018-02-15T23:25:47 < Cracki> is it the time to talk about fudge packing again?
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2018-02-15T23:45:04 < upgrdman> it is always time to talk about fudge packing
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2018-02-16T00:03:05 < jadew> R0b0t1, graphite powder seems to work, but I wonder for how long
2018-02-16T00:03:33 < jadew> I rubbed it really well and then added a drop of acetone, in the hope that it will slightly melt the rubber and trap the graphite particles
2018-02-16T00:04:37 < R0b0t1> I would expect as long as the keyboard was supposed to last
2018-02-16T00:04:45 < R0b0t1> That's good to hear that it works
2018-02-16T00:04:58 < R0b0t1> Main thing I would be worried about is too much graphite making ghost presses
2018-02-16T00:04:58 < jadew> if it will fail again, I'll use paint
2018-02-16T00:05:12 < R0b0t1> I'm not sure about the acetone though
2018-02-16T00:05:12 < jadew> I made sure to clean up excess graphite
2018-02-16T00:11:00 < upgrdman> jadew, you fixing a membrane switch?
2018-02-16T00:11:06 < upgrdman> you know they sell that black shit
2018-02-16T00:11:08 < jadew> upgrdman, yeah
2018-02-16T00:11:14 < jadew> I didn't know that
2018-02-16T00:11:14 < upgrdman> aqudac or something like that
2018-02-16T00:11:25 < jadew> but I don't feel like replacing it
2018-02-16T00:11:30 < jadew> sounds like too much trouble
2018-02-16T00:11:56 < upgrdman> hmm
2018-02-16T00:11:57 < upgrdman> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquadag
2018-02-16T00:12:32 < upgrdman> http://amzn.to/2HgJ4jw
2018-02-16T00:12:33 < upgrdman> etc
2018-02-16T00:13:38 < jadew> good to know
2018-02-16T00:14:01 < jadew> I hope it won't need them tho
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2018-02-16T00:40:46 < zyp> Steffanx, I started watching your Laurenceb series on netflix
2018-02-16T00:40:50 < zyp> pretty fun so far
2018-02-16T00:41:13 < Steffanx> :)
2018-02-16T00:41:30 < jadew> the end of the fucking world?
2018-02-16T00:41:33 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-16T00:41:55 < zyp> episodes are pretty short, so I just watched the first five
2018-02-16T00:42:00 < Steffanx> It gets a bit too dramaish imho
2018-02-16T00:42:06 < Steffanx> Hah :)
2018-02-16T00:42:21 < jadew> yeah, that's how it seemed to me too
2018-02-16T00:43:05 < zyp> could be
2018-02-16T00:43:22 < zyp> I thought he were going to keep up the obsession about killing the girl for a bit longer
2018-02-16T00:43:37 < jadew> he decided not to kill her?
2018-02-16T00:43:47 < zyp> dunno
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2018-02-16T00:51:47 < Steffanx> Lol to spoiler or not to spoiler
2018-02-16T00:52:25 < jadew> I find it hard to find watchable movies on netflix
2018-02-16T00:52:36 < jadew> most of the shit they have is super old
2018-02-16T00:52:57 < jadew> and the selection is very limited (but that's probably a Romania issue)
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2018-02-16T00:58:35 < unregisterednick> russian hackers bonding fpc to lcd screen  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtY1QH120-I
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2018-02-16T01:09:31 < jadew> BrainDamage, any idea why an attenuator manufacturrer would measure flatness as ** flatness = variation over band divided by 2
2018-02-16T01:09:35 < jadew> why divided by 2?
2018-02-16T01:09:49 < jadew> what kind of bullshit is hit?
2018-02-16T01:09:55 < jadew> *this
2018-02-16T01:21:01 < jadew> nvm, I get it
2018-02-16T01:21:08 < jadew> but it's misleading
2018-02-16T01:21:32 < jadew> because what I'm seeing is not variation around the nominal value
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2018-02-16T01:22:21 < jadew> the transmitted power just drops slowly
2018-02-16T01:23:14 < jadew> and while they metion a typical flatness of 0.85 across the entire band, I'm measuring it steadily dropping until it's 1.2 dB under the nominal value
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2018-02-16T01:32:50 < R0b0t1> Wait they actually just use graphite in water?
2018-02-16T01:33:00 < R0b0t1> Plain graphite is probably fine then, but worse for automatic application
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2018-02-16T01:37:55 < jadew> R0b0t1, what?
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2018-02-16T01:40:13 < R0b0t1> That stuff upgrdman linked
2018-02-16T01:40:34 < upgrdman> R0b0t1, not just "in water"
2018-02-16T01:40:41 < upgrdman> at least not for membrane shitz
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2018-02-16T01:47:19 < R0b0t1> upgrdman: I can only ever see a binder getting in the way
2018-02-16T01:47:24 < R0b0t1> That's the conductive rubber's job
2018-02-16T01:47:48 < R0b0t1> If there's another binder and an interface between them the differences in materials would crack there
2018-02-16T01:47:56 < upgrdman> ya but without a binder, it'll rub off quickly
2018-02-16T01:48:31 < Laurenceb_> muh babby shake
2018-02-16T01:48:35 < upgrdman> take apart a remote. rub the black shitz... they dont just rub off.
2018-02-16T01:48:46 < Laurenceb_> btfo by liveleak cameras
2018-02-16T01:48:51 < upgrdman> im sure there was lots of engineering and trial-and-error to find the right binder
2018-02-16T01:48:58 < R0b0t1> upgrdman: Not if it's stuck in/to the rubber
2018-02-16T01:49:06 < upgrdman> its not
2018-02-16T01:49:09 < upgrdman> look at it
2018-02-16T01:49:18 < upgrdman> i've seen the paint
2018-02-16T01:49:20 < R0b0t1> Just because it can be washed off doesn't mean it's not stuck into the rubber
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2018-02-16T01:49:40 < upgrdman> an old friend of mine used to work for sony's service center
2018-02-16T01:49:42 < R0b0t1> A conductive rubber has graphite particles in it, right?
2018-02-16T01:49:52 < upgrdman> no, it looks like fucking paint
2018-02-16T01:49:58 < upgrdman> like finger nail polish
2018-02-16T01:50:14 < R0b0t1> Alright if it's in a binder how did it wash off?
2018-02-16T01:50:28 < upgrdman> what wash off
2018-02-16T01:50:40 < R0b0t1> That's what originally broke jadew's keyboard, presumably
2018-02-16T01:51:01 < upgrdman> maybe if jadew didn't ejaculate into his keyboard so often, the coating would last longer.
2018-02-16T01:51:46 < jadew> it's for an instrument I bought off of ebay
2018-02-16T01:51:58 < jadew> it had some black shit around the button tracks
2018-02-16T01:52:05 < jadew> (and on it)
2018-02-16T01:52:14 < jadew> I think someone spilled something
2018-02-16T01:52:55 < Laurenceb_> >got ukp4m to invent the dashboard camera
2018-02-16T01:53:31 < jadew> R0b0t1, I don't think it washed off
2018-02-16T01:53:46 < jadew> actually, it might have on some of the keys
2018-02-16T01:54:15 < jadew> but other keys had issues too and I think those were just worn off
2018-02-16T01:55:00 < jadew> measured them and the resistance was > 10k on most of them
2018-02-16T01:55:29 < jadew> after treating them with graphite they ended up with < 5k
2018-02-16T01:56:44 < Laurenceb_> <upgrdman> maybe if jadew didn't ejaculate into his keyboard so often
2018-02-16T01:56:46 < Laurenceb_> my sides
2018-02-16T02:08:46 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk-_zzovMGY
2018-02-16T02:14:08 < Laurenceb_> wew the Florida shooter nazi thing was a 4chan troll
2018-02-16T02:14:29 < jadew> what shooter?
2018-02-16T02:15:11 < jadew> another school shooting?
2018-02-16T02:16:01 < branjb> is there some kind of scam with indian dudes posing as recruiters?
2018-02-16T02:16:16 < jadew> yes
2018-02-16T02:16:21 < branjb> I get like 5-10 emails a day from people like Srikanth Sankabuddhi with wonderful new opportunities
2018-02-16T02:16:44 < jadew> they outsource to you what others outsource to them
2018-02-16T02:16:54 < jadew> so you know you'll be making big bucks
2018-02-16T02:17:08 < Laurenceb_> that was breaking news on bbc "shooter linked to nazi gang"
2018-02-16T02:17:17 < branjb> Laurenceb_ i saw that
2018-02-16T02:17:27 < jadew> I didn't know about the shooting to begin with
2018-02-16T02:17:49 < jadew> they cought him?
2018-02-16T02:17:51 < branjb> but CNN and their viewers don't care if it was a 4chan larp or not, as long as the message or idea gets out there
2018-02-16T02:19:38 < jadew> 17 dead?
2018-02-16T02:19:39 < jadew> damn...
2018-02-16T02:22:48 < jadew> I think the solution is more guns
2018-02-16T02:24:14 < branjb> that's what I said
2018-02-16T02:24:24 < branjb> if every one of those kids was packing, what would the death count have been?
2018-02-16T02:25:51 < jadew> I'm reading he was a white nationalist
2018-02-16T02:26:02 < branjb> lol
2018-02-16T02:26:06 < branjb> paging Laurenceb_
2018-02-16T02:26:31 < jadew> was he after people of color?
2018-02-16T02:27:13 < Laurenceb_> jadew: u got trolld by 4chan
2018-02-16T02:28:31 < branjb> jadew: http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/160606740
2018-02-16T02:29:04 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/3db85ed909/85678.jpg
2018-02-16T02:31:20 < jadew> what's a bond?
2018-02-16T02:31:28 < jadew> "Judge orders Florida shooting suspect to be held in jail without bond"
2018-02-16T02:32:21 < Laurenceb_> bail
2018-02-16T02:32:30 < branjb> when you give someone (the jail?  county clerk?) a certain amount of money to go free till your trial, and if you run away you lose it
2018-02-16T02:33:17 < jadew> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/feb/15/judge-orders-florida-shooting-suspect-to-be-held-in-jail-without-bond-video
2018-02-16T02:33:43 < Laurenceb_> cuz they would totally let him out on bail after he shot up a school
2018-02-16T02:34:12 < jadew> if that happened in eastern europe, he'd be all swallen and bleeding at this hearing
2018-02-16T02:37:33 < jadew> night
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2018-02-16T02:40:57 < Laurenceb_> *pwns my school epic style*
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2018-02-16T02:56:53 < branjb> I got an edge grinder to grind some fittings down, that shit is crazy
2018-02-16T02:57:02 < branjb> had giant chunks of molten steel and sparks flying everywhere
2018-02-16T03:00:59 < sync> wut
2018-02-16T03:01:28  * Laurenceb_ got wurk email
2018-02-16T03:01:43 < Laurenceb_> they want me to stick 48kHz audio samples in InfluxDB
2018-02-16T03:01:49 < Laurenceb_> I can't even right now
2018-02-16T03:02:49 < sync> the whole thing?
2018-02-16T03:02:51 < sync> wow
2018-02-16T03:03:12 < Laurenceb_> all the things
2018-02-16T03:13:38 < Laurenceb_> >Implying I'm not just going to stick it in a wav file anyways
2018-02-16T03:15:01 < Thorn> does anyone know anything about this flux https://www.aliexpress.com/item/MECHANIC-No-clean-Paste-Flux-Soldering-Tin-BGA-solder-flux-Electric-Soldering-Iron-Welding-Fluxes-For/32800284374.html
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2018-02-16T03:37:21 < Laurenceb_> damn https://github.com/kbsriram/dcutils
2018-02-16T03:37:29 < Laurenceb_> babby project even more btfo
2018-02-16T03:38:21 < Laurenceb_> so it uses "atoms" of audio like data to store extra channels of stuff
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2018-02-16T03:53:16 < englishman> Thorn: haven't used the flux but mechanic solder paste went directly into the garbage
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2018-02-16T03:53:42 < Thorn> oh I was looking at it also
2018-02-16T03:53:47 < Thorn> thanks for the info
2018-02-16T03:59:24 < Thorn> btw stm8s003 seems to have gone up in price
2018-02-16T04:00:32 < englishman> noooo
2018-02-16T04:00:40 < Thorn> I paid $13.70 for 50 pcs a few months ago and now it's like $20-$29
2018-02-16T04:00:56 < englishman> from where? China?
2018-02-16T04:01:04 < Thorn> ali and ebay, China
2018-02-16T04:01:13 < englishman> maybe prices are auto-rising because noone is there to lower them
2018-02-16T04:01:52 < englishman> or they want a premium for shipping during the holiday?
2018-02-16T04:02:38 < Thorn> most of them aren't shipping anything during the holiday afaict, they have notices
2018-02-16T04:02:56 < Thorn> maybe they want to reduce the backlog they have to deal with when they return from the holiday
2018-02-16T04:05:28 < dongs> jpa-: nice1
2018-02-16T04:15:28 < dongs> <Rab> digikey.co doesn't load for me...digikey.uk redirects to clickconfirmation.com.
2018-02-16T04:15:31 < dongs> <Rab> Nothing for digikey.co.ck. A golden opportunity!
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2018-02-16T04:52:44 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/3TPkI
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2018-02-16T04:53:47 < Rickta59> where do you get a .ck domain?
2018-02-16T04:54:34 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ck#Requirements_of_.ck_registration
2018-02-16T04:55:07 < Rickta59> ah too bad
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2018-02-16T04:55:19 < Rickta59> "Domains considered profane will not be considered on any level"
2018-02-16T04:59:47 < dongs> what possible non-profane domain could you have ending with .cock?
2018-02-16T05:12:32 < Rickta59> poppy.co.ck
2018-02-16T05:12:52 < Rickta59> * had to think on that a while
2018-02-16T05:33:41 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/fermatslibrary/status/963056123447336965
2018-02-16T05:34:53 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone have "example" makefile or cmake file for STM32F103 file? The two I have are both f-ed up for some reason...
2018-02-16T05:36:07 < Thorn> cube generates very nice makefiles and I have one in my every project, just not for f103
2018-02-16T05:37:43 < Thorn> I can post one for f4 or f0 if you want
2018-02-16T05:38:31 < ColdKeyboard> I should have Cube somewhere, I'll generate one :D
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2018-02-16T05:54:52 < ColdKeyboard> Thorn: Did you select makefile as output?
2018-02-16T05:55:12 < ColdKeyboard> If I try using make all on cube generated makefile I gett error `make: *** No rule to make target `build/stm32f1xx_hal_rtc_ex.o', needed by `build/18-02-15-ClockMakefile.elf'`
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2018-02-16T06:04:49 < Thorn> um I believe you have to enable all peripherals you intend to use in cube so that it actually includes the drivers
2018-02-16T06:04:56 < Thorn> there's also an option to copy or reference HAL files etc.
2018-02-16T06:15:38 < ColdKeyboard> Thorn: but I think this complains because it can't compile first file listed in C_SOURCES. And yes file is there
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2018-02-16T06:37:50 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone have an idea why CubeMX makefile doesn't work?
2018-02-16T06:39:04 < dongs> cubemx is gay
2018-02-16T06:43:18 < ColdKeyboard> You're gay dongs :P
2018-02-16T06:43:55 < ColdKeyboard> Now how do you make this CubeMX generated makefile work?
2018-02-16T06:46:01 < dongs> I know this doesnt help you but when I used cubemx to generate a keil project
2018-02-16T06:46:04 < dongs> it worked flawlessly
2018-02-16T06:46:15 < dongs> :)
2018-02-16T06:46:38 < ColdKeyboard> Hmmm, well that kind-of helps. Now I know at least something works
2018-02-16T06:46:50 < dongs> does it do native makeFAIL output or do you still gotta run some opensores shit to convert?
2018-02-16T06:47:01 < dongs> i remember people had a script taht took atollic shit and made makefiles out of
2018-02-16T06:47:08 < ColdKeyboard> What's weird it's complaining that it can't generate/find .o files
2018-02-16T06:47:21 < dongs> i donno shit about make other than: i dont ever wanna use it
2018-02-16T06:47:25 < dongs> so i can't help with that
2018-02-16T06:47:38 < ColdKeyboard> lol. I can relate to that :)
2018-02-16T06:47:48 < dongs> < dongs> does it do native makeFAIL output or do you still gotta run some opensores shit to convert?
2018-02-16T06:48:00 < ColdKeyboard> It does native makefile
2018-02-16T06:48:15 < dongs> https://nathan.vertile.com/blog/2017/04/13/stm32cubemx-makefile-project/
2018-02-16T06:48:17 < dongs> see if this stil lwroks
2018-02-16T06:48:22 < dongs> takes atollic shit and makes a makefile
2018-02-16T06:48:36 < dongs> generate a SW4STM32 project (atollic)
2018-02-16T06:48:42 < dongs> then run that python filth to make makefile
2018-02-16T06:48:46 < dongs> see if that fails less than native.
2018-02-16T06:49:59 < dongs> https://community.st.com/thread/41203-cubemx-makefile-issue-makefile-template haha
2018-02-16T06:50:10 < dongs> nothing but rage tehre
2018-02-16T06:57:10 < ColdKeyboard> lmao
2018-02-16T06:59:48 < Thorn> well what I failed to mention is I have my own makefiles that I wrote before cube supported makefile generation and I keep using and improving them lol
2018-02-16T07:00:10 < Thorn> (OTOH I did try the makefile it generated for my latest project and it worked fine too)
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2018-02-16T07:14:53 < ColdKeyboard> Okay so managed to get this mangled makefile https://pastebin.com/99h6DLL1 to work and compile
2018-02-16T07:16:02 < ColdKeyboard> One weird thing I noticed on STM32F103C8 (cheap eBay clone "BluePill") is that no matter what I do, LED on PC13 doesn't blink. Clock on port C is turned on, pin is configured as output PP, but try togling it and nothing happens. Any ideas on that?
2018-02-16T07:16:30 < dongs> pins PC13/14/15 were never designed to drive anything with any amount of current
2018-02-16T07:16:38 < dongs> they're connected internally thorugh low-current analog switches
2018-02-16T07:16:43 < dongs> every fuckign datasheet mentions taht
2018-02-16T07:16:54 < dongs> i ahve no idea why retards insist on putting leds there
2018-02-16T07:20:32 < ColdKeyboard> Huh... Hat's off to designer of this clone :)
2018-02-16T07:20:43 < ColdKeyboard> So should I leave it as analog input or what?
2018-02-16T07:21:04 < dongs> i guess so. i mean, it *should* work but it can only manage very slow rise/fall times
2018-02-16T07:21:15 < dongs> and iirc pc13 is RTC xtal or something, isnt there one mounted on the board?
2018-02-16T07:21:21 < dongs> so if you ahve RTC on you probably cant blink shit.
2018-02-16T07:25:41 < ColdKeyboard> It should be RTC_OUT on PC13, but if you don't configure it like that then you can use it a GPIO I guess
2018-02-16T07:25:49 < dongs> correct
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2018-02-16T07:27:54 < ColdKeyboard> Out of curiosity, do you know what should I see on PC14 and PC15 (RTC IN and OUT) when RTC is oscillating?
2018-02-16T07:28:10 < ColdKeyboard> Like sinewave, sinewave with DC offset or something in between?
2018-02-16T07:31:04 < dongs> 32k sinewave with dc offset is what ive seen
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2018-02-16T07:33:57 < ColdKeyboard> Okay, I see something that is close to 1V p2p
2018-02-16T07:34:10 < dongs> i thought you had a led on therE?
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2018-02-16T07:38:11 < ColdKeyboard> It's on PC13 not PC14/15
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2018-02-16T08:05:14 < dongs> ah
2018-02-16T08:07:12 < ColdKeyboard> I'll design my own PCB and send it to Seedstudio as soon as Chinese New Year is done
2018-02-16T08:07:21 < dongs> ok ordered that 4 port C/A hub
2018-02-16T08:07:27 < dongs> gonna see whats inside
2018-02-16T08:07:37 < dongs> for lane swappage
2018-02-16T08:10:41 < ColdKeyboard> What hub?
2018-02-16T08:11:05 < dongs> http://www2.elecom.co.jp/products/U3HC-AP412BWH.html a jap thing
2018-02-16T08:11:11 < dongs> its type C to 2x type C and 2x type A
2018-02-16T08:11:20 < dongs> i wanna see how they're hubbing typeC stuff
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2018-02-16T08:20:03 < R0b0t1`> So for some reason my SysTick_Handler only seems to fire a couple of times
2018-02-16T08:20:09 < R0b0t1`> Does anyone know why that might happen?
2018-02-16T08:21:01 < dongs> not wihtout more info
2018-02-16T08:22:40 < R0b0t1`> https://bpaste.net/show/2817154432c4
2018-02-16T08:23:11 < R0b0t1`> Sorry, I thought it was firing once, but that was line 17. It may be that the processor goes into a hard fault and turns off all IO?
2018-02-16T08:23:30 < R0b0t1`> I'm still not sure what I did improperly, I was referring to the documentation and the STM32 HAL code
2018-02-16T08:25:35 < R0b0t1`> The ST-Link is possibly doing something weird with this part now, or OpenOCD is
2018-02-16T08:25:40 < R0b0t1`> I can't flash to it most of the time
2018-02-16T08:27:58 < R0b0t1`> Right so
2018-02-16T08:28:05 < R0b0t1`> The SysTick enable is doing something strange
2018-02-16T08:28:19 < R0b0t1`> I've had similar issues on AVRs where an interrupt fires too quickly
2018-02-16T08:28:24 < R0b0t1`> But I don't know why that would be happening
2018-02-16T08:29:29 < R0b0t1`> dongs: Would you happen to have any comment
2018-02-16T08:30:25 < R0b0t1`> Interesting
2018-02-16T08:30:34 < R0b0t1`> With Systick_Config it does not work
2018-02-16T08:30:38 < R0b0t1`> With my systick_up it does
2018-02-16T08:30:47 < R0b0t1`> Or perhaps the CPU is resetting constantly
2018-02-16T08:31:49 < R0b0t1`> Yes constant resets
2018-02-16T08:32:04 < R0b0t1`> But why, especially if I use SysTick_Config?
2018-02-16T08:32:09 < R0b0t1`> This makes no sense
2018-02-16T08:38:58 < dongs> why do you enable USB interrupts but dont have a handler for it
2018-02-16T08:40:34 < R0b0t1`> dongs: It's not finished, sorry
2018-02-16T08:40:38 < R0b0t1`> I have more information though
2018-02-16T08:40:55 < R0b0t1`> If SysTick_Handler doesn't access PORTB the light keeps blinking with noreset
2018-02-16T08:41:19 < R0b0t1`> no reset*
2018-02-16T08:41:34 < R0b0t1`> This is with systick still being enabled
2018-02-16T08:45:56 < R0b0t1`> Here is a slight modification: https://bpaste.net/show/15abc633ba08
2018-02-16T08:46:13 < R0b0t1`> This results in the light staying on for ~.5s, about the period of the flashing due to the while loop
2018-02-16T08:47:03 < R0b0t1`> Then it goes off and never comes back
2018-02-16T08:52:50 < R0b0t1`> This clone may leave but there is still R0b0t1
2018-02-16T08:58:42 < dongs> heh
2018-02-16T08:58:49 < dongs> this tarduino fucktard was doing
2018-02-16T08:59:07 < dongs> bool fag = wahtever; bool somestuffhewantednegated = whatever + 1;
2018-02-16T08:59:25 < dongs> (hint: it only works in *hdl like this)
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2018-02-16T09:46:58 < unregisteredandu> hi
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2018-02-16T09:59:00 < kaa> I need to find a modem ic
2018-02-16T09:59:11 < kaa> hello welcome crt
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2018-02-16T10:02:14 < kaa> do I need PLC modem or PLC AFE or is just "modem ic" suitable?
2018-02-16T10:02:24 < kaa> what is the difference
2018-02-16T10:02:35 < kaa> some have even same modulations
2018-02-16T10:03:49 < kaa> hmm
2018-02-16T10:04:39 < kaa> yes no
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2018-02-16T11:53:00 < stvn> hello Steffanx
2018-02-16T11:53:03 < stvn> a unit has shipped
2018-02-16T11:53:39 < stvn> ty for stroop tokens
2018-02-16T11:54:59 < stvn> a lethal dose :D
2018-02-16T11:57:40 < stvn> http://stm32pro.blogspot.com.au/2017/04/innovation.html
2018-02-16T12:06:48 < Steffanx> Do you like my business waffles?
2018-02-16T12:07:06 < stvn> very good sir
2018-02-16T12:07:14 < Steffanx> Fyi they are not entirely heat proof
2018-02-16T12:07:32 < kaa> crt already almost killed - another shipment would be lethal
2018-02-16T12:07:49 < Steffanx> Such cup coaster for your hot chocolate
2018-02-16T12:09:12 < stvn> ty
2018-02-16T12:11:09 < stvn> who is crt
2018-02-16T12:11:16 < Steffanx> Idk
2018-02-16T12:12:40 < stvn> sounds like an amateur wafel fan
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2018-02-16T12:24:23 < stvn> Steffanx, did you use your own 3d printer
2018-02-16T12:28:57 < Steffanx> Yah
2018-02-16T12:29:18 < stvn> modprobe mate
2018-02-16T12:29:58 < Steffanx> Mod what?
2018-02-16T12:30:43 < Steffanx> People hardly have a clue what we're talking about i guess :¶
2018-02-16T12:31:32 < Steffanx> Pics stvn
2018-02-16T12:32:27 < stvn> ok need to get a device of sorts ie camera
2018-02-16T12:34:15 < stvn> better sniff it. brb
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2018-02-16T12:38:56 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/Bmhe1kn.jpg
2018-02-16T12:40:17 < stvn> i'll send a more high res pic
2018-02-16T12:44:26 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/iIfwV89.jpg
2018-02-16T12:53:57 < Steffanx> Such bad print :P
2018-02-16T12:54:33 < stvn> vlaaaaaa
2018-02-16T13:10:23 < dongs> who the fuck is kaa
2018-02-16T13:10:26 < dongs> kikemir 2.0?
2018-02-16T13:10:31 < dongs> oh it is
2018-02-16T13:10:33 < dongs> christ
2018-02-16T13:10:37 < dongs> he autisms from one topic to another
2018-02-16T13:10:39 < dongs> in a 180
2018-02-16T13:10:51 < dongs> yesterday it was ??? today its PLC modems
2018-02-16T13:11:04 < dongs> youll never get those footprints into kikecad
2018-02-16T13:12:44 < Steffanx> Better get stvn to send you a waffle dongs
2018-02-16T13:13:33 < kaa> https://pastebin.com/jfP3acUr de fac this means?
2018-02-16T13:14:02 < kaa> I have launched debuging session with that command in my linux debug laptop few years back no problem
2018-02-16T13:14:28 < dongs> better yet launch a keil session
2018-02-16T13:14:45 < kaa> I wont even use arm in final product
2018-02-16T13:14:49 < kaa> this is just in prototype
2018-02-16T13:15:11 < kaa> there is major changes so I can go with 20pin mcu like attiny or such
2018-02-16T13:16:14 < stvn> are you here to just piss dongs off?
2018-02-16T13:16:51 < kaa> I'm here to make him jizz
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2018-02-16T15:17:01 < jadew> my boards through DHL are finally on their way
2018-02-16T15:17:18 < jadew> 3-5 days delivery = 20 days
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2018-02-16T15:25:34 < Steffanx> Who to blame, jadew ?
2018-02-16T15:26:10 < jadew> me, for giving DHL another chance
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2018-02-16T15:31:32 < Laurenceb_> https://kek.gg/i/ZMx72.jpeg
2018-02-16T15:31:36 < Steffanx> But is it really dhl and not the one before dhl got its hands on thr package?
2018-02-16T15:31:50 < jadew> Steffanx, nope
2018-02-16T15:32:09 < Steffanx> Sure?
2018-02-16T15:32:10 < jadew> it was in DHL's possesion since the very beginning
2018-02-16T15:32:25 < jadew> the guy that was supposed to handle the customs was a DHL employee
2018-02-16T15:32:57 < jadew> that's how they delay you, with no repercursions
2018-02-16T15:33:32 < jadew> saying it's going through the customs proceedings
2018-02-16T15:33:44 < jadew> but the thing is I got packages sent through regular post that also went through customs
2018-02-16T15:33:48 < jadew> and regular post is SLOW
2018-02-16T15:33:53 < jadew> but they still got here earlier
2018-02-16T15:34:02 < jadew> ordered in the same fucking day
2018-02-16T15:34:28 < jadew> cuz I bought the boards + some cables and other components I needed from aliexpress
2018-02-16T15:34:36 < Steffanx> Ah
2018-02-16T15:34:42 < sync> rip
2018-02-16T15:35:29 < jadew> Laurenceb_, that kid is going to be bullied like hell
2018-02-16T15:35:53 < jadew> it's not like kids aren't super mean anyway, she had to make it worse for him
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2018-02-16T16:02:53 < jadew> apparently tin foil works well for heat insulation inside the oven too: https://lowpowerlab.com/2013/09/06/reflow-oven-insulation/
2018-02-16T16:09:03 < jadew> going to open my oven, see what I got
2018-02-16T16:15:49 < jadew> much nicer than the last one I got
2018-02-16T16:15:53 < jadew> and cheaper
2018-02-16T16:16:12 < jadew> the door has double walls and it also has a light inside
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2018-02-16T16:54:52 < jadew> what's that?
2018-02-16T16:58:31 < zyp> we get it, you vape
2018-02-16T17:00:32 < Rob235> whats up bitches
2018-02-16T17:02:26 < kaa> what kind of pullups and pulldowns swd lines may require?
2018-02-16T17:06:07 < zyp> none
2018-02-16T17:08:00 < kaa> shiet
2018-02-16T17:08:14 < kaa> lpc1111 causes me to lose hair
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2018-02-16T17:09:38 < Steffanx> Youre getting old.
2018-02-16T17:09:48 < kaa> actually I don't have hair
2018-02-16T17:09:51 < kaa> anymore
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2018-02-16T17:36:10 < Rob235> I hate waiting for packages, why isnt everything overnight
2018-02-16T17:38:03 < jadew> I finally have my boards
2018-02-16T17:38:47 < branjb> lol
2018-02-16T17:39:15 < branjb> building an enclosure for cnc electronics, need an EMO button.  typed it in amazon.  was not expecting what popped up
2018-02-16T17:39:31 < jadew> please share
2018-02-16T17:40:16 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/WRvfr
2018-02-16T17:40:56 < Laurenceb> https://cdn1-shop.mikroe.com/img/p/click/wireless-connectivity/gps/gps-thickbox_default-1.jpg
2018-02-16T17:41:04 < Laurenceb> does that say 6s or 8s  ?
2018-02-16T17:41:14 < branjb> 6s
2018-02-16T17:41:28 < englishman> def 6
2018-02-16T17:41:33 < Laurenceb> reee
2018-02-16T17:41:37 < Steffanx> Da
2018-02-16T17:41:41 < Laurenceb> dat shit is ancient
2018-02-16T17:41:44 < jadew> lol Steffanx
2018-02-16T17:41:44 < englishman> i dont think lea-8s exists
2018-02-16T17:42:02 < Laurenceb> ah good point
2018-02-16T17:42:07 < Laurenceb> lea-m8s
2018-02-16T17:42:15 < englishman> yea
2018-02-16T17:42:30 < Laurenceb> surely farnell sell a usb gps dongle with decent module
2018-02-16T17:42:31 < Laurenceb> reee
2018-02-16T17:42:39 < Steffanx> Yes, my russian is getting better jadew :P
2018-02-16T17:42:50 < jadew> that's also romanian
2018-02-16T17:42:51 < englishman> what should an emo button do branjb
2018-02-16T17:43:11 < englishman> EMergency Off?
2018-02-16T17:43:24 < branjb> emergency machine off yeah
2018-02-16T17:43:31 < branjb> https://www.smw3d.com/emergency-stop-switch/
2018-02-16T17:43:39 < Laurenceb> emergence bisuit
2018-02-16T17:43:40 < jadew> so, it's turning the emergency machine off?
2018-02-16T17:43:47 < branjb> usually something like that, easy to trigger off but you have to intentionally rotate it to turn on
2018-02-16T17:44:04 < jadew> branjb, the term is panic button
2018-02-16T17:44:04 < englishman> yes
2018-02-16T17:44:08 < branjb> yeah
2018-02-16T17:44:23 < branjb> my EMO off is just turning the power strip off
2018-02-16T17:44:27 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC_Ef_acB7E
2018-02-16T17:44:32 < branjb> by apparently that's not up to code
2018-02-16T17:44:36 < englishman> on the dicknplace it is placed so i hit it with my fucking knee
2018-02-16T17:44:42 < branjb> lol
2018-02-16T17:45:07 < jadew> englishman, probably placed strategically
2018-02-16T17:45:23 < jadew> if something knocks you down, you can reach it from the floor
2018-02-16T17:47:13 < Laurenceb> lul my cousin is getting married and husband to be has told her to stop camwhoring
2018-02-16T17:47:20 < jadew> I also have everything going through one power strip
2018-02-16T17:47:25 < Laurenceb> but he is a youtube e-celeb
2018-02-16T17:47:28 < Laurenceb> my sides
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2018-02-16T17:49:03 < Laurenceb> making clickbait "lurn 2 be a pop star in 3 easy steps" music training videos
2018-02-16T17:49:11 < Rob235> do chinese companies that have warehouses in the US shut down everywhere?
2018-02-16T17:49:20 < Rob235> for chinese new year
2018-02-16T17:49:23 < Rob235> forgot that part
2018-02-16T17:51:05 < Laurenceb> >a family of camwhores/e-celebs
2018-02-16T17:51:22 < branjb> are they going to stream their wedding and ask for donations?
2018-02-16T17:51:57 < Laurenceb> probably
2018-02-16T17:52:03 < Rob235> while wearing vibrating panties that respond to donation sounds
2018-02-16T17:52:11 < Laurenceb> kek
2018-02-16T17:52:19 < branjb> lol
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2018-02-16T17:53:37 < Laurenceb> https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiN-eS_5arZAhUEJ8AKHRO7AnMQFghOMAY&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cps.gov.uk%2Flegal-guidance%2Fcontrolling-or-coercive-behaviour-intimate-or-family-relationship&usg=AOvVaw10o33Y6_iXcnmBFgh3U6-h
2018-02-16T17:54:03 < Laurenceb> ^go to police saying he is controlling her by stopping her from being a pronz star
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2018-02-16T17:54:14 < Laurenceb> feminist brainmelt
2018-02-16T17:56:04 < Laurenceb> only people found guilty of that so far have been some homeless guys and someone with mental issues, stay classy feminists
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2018-02-16T18:07:19 < Laurenceb> wew
2018-02-16T18:07:41 < Laurenceb> trolls have doxxed sargons waifu https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lucy-ann-mason-b0707060
2018-02-16T18:08:19 < Laurenceb> > Forensic Science, Criminology, and Psychology
2018-02-16T18:08:28 < Laurenceb> troll status: in jail 4 lief
2018-02-16T18:11:42 < Adluc> Hello guys, usually PCBs are sealed with thin layer of transparent gel, does anyone know the name of it? And what solvent to use to remove it for reverse engineering purposes?
2018-02-16T18:12:06 < Laurenceb> its uasually some sort of UV cured resin
2018-02-16T18:12:20 < Laurenceb> you arent going to dissolve it in a hurry
2018-02-16T18:14:31 < sync> who dat Laurenceb
2018-02-16T18:15:19 < Laurenceb> Sargon of Akkad, the most famous youtuber
2018-02-16T18:15:57 < Laurenceb> >gets criminology degree
2018-02-16T18:15:57 < branjb> your cousin is going to marry sargon?
2018-02-16T18:16:03 < Laurenceb> >works selling cakes
2018-02-16T18:16:07 < Laurenceb> wut
2018-02-16T18:16:08 < englishman> Adluc, conformal coating?
2018-02-16T18:16:23 < englishman> there are many different types
2018-02-16T18:16:45 < Adluc> englishman: oh yeah :) thats the name i was looking for
2018-02-16T18:16:58 < Adluc> will have a look it, thanks
2018-02-16T18:17:16 < branjb> >I run my own business selling candles, fragrances, and accessories.
2018-02-16T18:17:56 < englishman> Adluc: opening random conformalcoating datasheet
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2018-02-16T18:18:29 < englishman> Cured material will be impervious to many solvents and difficult to remove. Clean up of cured material may require mechanical methods of removal.
2018-02-16T18:18:29 < branjb> why do people call it their own business when they work for ponzi scheme esq businesses?
2018-02-16T18:18:53 < Laurenceb> cuz it sounds impressive
2018-02-16T18:19:00 < Laurenceb> or they thing it sounds impressive...
2018-02-16T18:19:11 < englishman> that is half of the scam, convincing your victims that they are running successful independent businesses
2018-02-16T18:19:12 < tomeaton17> yeah its so impressive that you sell avon..
2018-02-16T18:19:19 < branjb> or amway
2018-02-16T18:19:38 < branjb> ~multi-level marketing~
2018-02-16T18:19:40 < tomeaton17> forensic science was clearly worth it
2018-02-16T18:19:50 < Laurenceb> even Tectu is more impressive
2018-02-16T18:19:52 < Laurenceb>  /troll
2018-02-16T18:20:20 < tomeaton17> thats a massive troll m8
2018-02-16T18:20:31 < Laurenceb> tomeaton17: it's not like she needs to work, Sargon earns more from Patreon than the prime minister
2018-02-16T18:20:51 < tomeaton17> Yeah so why waste time selling some shitty candles
2018-02-16T18:20:53 < Laurenceb> I heard he is making £600k/year for youtube trawling
2018-02-16T18:20:54 < branjb> he probably pays to support her business
2018-02-16T18:21:34 < Laurenceb> inb4 she gets molested by 4chan weirdos
2018-02-16T18:21:34 < tomeaton17> Interesting she went to bournemouth thats near me
2018-02-16T18:21:56 < Laurenceb> lel 4chan have found their address already
2018-02-16T18:21:56 < tomeaton17> confirmed shithole
2018-02-16T18:24:10 < tomeaton17> why are 4chan doxxing him they sound like the sort of guy they would like
2018-02-16T18:24:50 < branjb> 4chan hates sargon
2018-02-16T18:24:54 < Laurenceb> >4chan
2018-02-16T18:24:59 < Laurenceb> >not trolling everyone
2018-02-16T18:25:54 < tomeaton17> standard autists
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2018-02-16T18:30:35 < Laurenceb> wew  https://uk.rs-online.com/web/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4eeJ2e2q2QIV4bDtCh03og6hEAAYASAAEgJTAvD_BwE&cm_mmc=UK-PPC-DS3A-_-google-_-0_UK_EN_Brand_RS%7CPure_Exact-_-RS-_-rs&matchtype=e&gclsrc=aw.ds
2018-02-16T18:30:54 < Adluc> englishman: looks like im quite short on that conformal coating, but I came across this interesting thing: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/3562
2018-02-16T18:33:43 < englishman> what is it that you are working on?
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2018-02-16T18:34:10 < fest> yeah, I was missing something very obvious in my ICM20608 problem
2018-02-16T18:34:24 < fest> EE skimped on capacitance at VREGOUT
2018-02-16T18:34:26 < fest> https://imgur.com/a/tWioC
2018-02-16T18:34:28 < Adluc> englishman: https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/28109000_2075003185850460_1491755964_n.jpg?oh=a29103b82541990f256bd4efe90c25b6&oe=5A890171
2018-02-16T18:34:42 < englishman> wtf is that
2018-02-16T18:34:44 < Adluc> reverse engineering this battery pack, it was destroyed by overvoltage
2018-02-16T18:34:52 < englishman> vape charger?
2018-02-16T18:35:03 < Adluc> :D for hotboxing whole building, yeah
2018-02-16T18:35:12 < Laurenceb> wtf is that thing
2018-02-16T18:35:16 < Laurenceb> wew
2018-02-16T18:35:26 < Adluc> https://www.solarniexperti.cz/wp-content/uploads/Datasheet-BMZ_ESS_3.0.pdf
2018-02-16T18:35:37 < Adluc> this is inside
2018-02-16T18:35:45 < Laurenceb> looks ardutard and designed to kill you
2018-02-16T18:35:49 < englishman> czechnology
2018-02-16T18:35:55 < Adluc> its german i suppose
2018-02-16T18:36:13 < Laurenceb> 6.74kwh
2018-02-16T18:36:15 < Laurenceb> so useful
2018-02-16T18:36:31 < Adluc> i was unplugging connectors from distance with a thread :D with helmet and stuff
2018-02-16T18:37:03 < englishman> cool
2018-02-16T18:37:18 < Adluc> there is an ARM mcu on that board, and I wanted to check if the capacitors are or and what was damaged
2018-02-16T18:37:31 < Laurenceb> use an atlas lcr
2018-02-16T18:39:04 < Adluc> yeah, will use, but there is a resin layer on the board and i think im out of luck
2018-02-16T18:39:38 < Laurenceb> yeah thats polymerised using uv
2018-02-16T18:39:53 < Laurenceb> you will only get rid of it using nitric acid or something
2018-02-16T18:39:59 < Laurenceb> and that will hard the substrate
2018-02-16T18:40:03 < Adluc> but the pogo pins on that ARM are left out of the resin, so... :D
2018-02-16T18:40:23 < Adluc> wouldnt that nitric acid also take the rest of the electronics with it?
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2018-02-16T19:00:55 < branjb> does it make more sense to have male or female DIN connectors on an enclosure
2018-02-16T19:01:07 < branjb> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/amphenol-sine-systems-corp/T-3303-000/361-1063-ND/465593 vs https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/amphenol-sine-systems-corp/C091-31C004-100-2/C09131C0041002-ND/3916012
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2018-02-16T19:09:18 < Rob235> NICE my printer is out for delivery today
2018-02-16T19:22:47 < invzim> branjb: female
2018-02-16T19:23:02 < invzim> pins break and it's easier to replace a cable
2018-02-16T19:27:31 < upgrdman> Rob235, what printer?
2018-02-16T19:27:52 < Rob235> anet a6
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2018-02-16T19:32:04 < tomeaton17> Nice just spent two hours compiling ruby on a pi zero for my script to break
2018-02-16T19:32:45 < zyp> probably well deserved
2018-02-16T19:34:59 < tomeaton17> yup
2018-02-16T19:35:12 < tomeaton17> Why did the original developer have to do everything in ruby its garbage
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2018-02-16T19:44:25 < unregisteredandu> hello
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2018-02-16T20:30:39 < Laurenceb__> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/14/reintroduce-national-service-to-get-the-crops-in
2018-02-16T20:30:44 < Laurenceb__> kekking
2018-02-16T20:30:58 < Laurenceb__> I'm screwed
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2018-02-16T20:32:01 < unregisteredandu> hahaha you see where this is going
2018-02-16T20:32:42 < unregisteredandu> migrants are here and working, doing jobs that nobody wants, damn, get them outta here, you need to replace them
2018-02-16T20:35:08 < branjb> happening: https://www.justice.gov/live
2018-02-16T20:35:17 < branjb> mueller indictments
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2018-02-16T22:12:45 < BrainDamage> today, to reaffirm the alliteration of the channel's reality with the topic, I present you: https://www.banggood.com/Drillpro-11_5-Inch-Chainsaw-Bracket-Changed-Angle-Grinder-Into-Chain-Saw-Woodworking-Tool-p-1230720.html
2018-02-16T22:16:03 < branjb> angled grinders are great
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2018-02-16T22:46:49 < upgrdman> http://www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/MC7800-D.PDF
2018-02-16T22:47:10 < upgrdman> ^ short circuit current limit is 0.2A, but peak output current is 2.2A
2018-02-16T22:47:16 < upgrdman> how the fuck does that make sense.
2018-02-16T22:47:32 < upgrdman> (page 4)
2018-02-16T22:50:22 < Steffanx> That's at 35V. Have a look at Figure 2 on page 19 sir mr upgrdman
2018-02-16T22:50:34 < Steffanx> Peak Output Current as a Function of Input/Output Differential Voltage
2018-02-16T22:50:49 < upgrdman> o
2018-02-16T22:50:52 < upgrdman> thx :)
2018-02-16T22:51:10 < upgrdman> 12V -> 5V, 300mA ... fuckers getting hot
2018-02-16T22:51:19 < upgrdman> oh well, this is just to power an r&d PROtotype
2018-02-16T22:52:04 < upgrdman> "it's below Tj(max) so no problem"
2018-02-16T22:53:18 < upgrdman> oh good "Internal Thermal Overload Protection" so i dont even have to worry
2018-02-16T22:53:26 < upgrdman> damn i am so fucking pro
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2018-02-16T22:55:20 < Steffanx> Yes. I love you too, upgrdman
2018-02-16T22:55:40 < Steffanx> Need waffles?
2018-02-16T22:56:12 < upgrdman> i do
2018-02-16T22:56:26 < upgrdman> haven't had any poopwafels in ~1 year
2018-02-16T22:58:07 < Steffanx> if only shipping wasnt f*cking expensive. It's like 24 euro + 6 euro worth of waffles.
2018-02-16T22:58:19 < upgrdman> lol
2018-02-16T22:58:22 < Steffanx> 1.5kg that is.
2018-02-16T22:58:26 < upgrdman> damn
2018-02-16T22:58:27 < Steffanx> *1.6
2018-02-16T22:58:34 < Steffanx> Yes.
2018-02-16T22:58:56 < Steffanx> But it gets you the best waffles in the world from waffle.express (tm)
2018-02-16T23:02:13 < Steffanx> I need a better sales team, irc marketing doesnt seem to work.
2018-02-16T23:02:57 < upgrdman> my super pro LM7805   https://imgur.com/a/qjrPF
2018-02-16T23:03:36 < Steffanx> heh
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2018-02-16T23:16:21 < englishman> Steffanx: just got a collections notice from ARROW re: past due invoices from April
2018-02-16T23:16:34 < englishman> I don't have a terms account with them and this is the first I've heard
2018-02-16T23:16:35 < englishman> Lol
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2018-02-16T23:17:50 < Steffanx> April as in april 2018, englishman?
2018-02-16T23:19:26 < Steffanx> i mean that would be a typical arrow mistake..
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2018-02-16T23:26:43 < englishman> 2017
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2018-02-16T23:33:53 < Rob235> ups blows :/
2018-02-16T23:34:09 < Rob235> its 4:30 and its still out for delivery
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2018-02-16T23:35:36 < branjb> lol
2018-02-16T23:35:39 < branjb> #metoo
2018-02-16T23:35:52 < branjb> I'm waiting for UPS to drop some shit off so I can leave
2018-02-16T23:37:14 < Rob235> I wanna start putting this printer togetehr
2018-02-16T23:37:21 < branjb> 3d printer?
2018-02-16T23:37:51 < Rob235> yup
2018-02-16T23:38:03 < branjb> which one?
2018-02-16T23:38:18 < Rob235> just an anet a6
2018-02-16T23:38:48 < Rob235> $190 including shipping.
2018-02-16T23:39:16 < branjb> is that the one that has the combustible hot plate mosfet?
2018-02-16T23:39:38 < Rob235> I don't think it even comes with a mosfet. thats on my upgrade list
2018-02-16T23:39:56 < branjb> what controlboard does it use?
2018-02-16T23:40:16 < Rob235> its own, I think its similar to a ramps 1.4 board but worse :)
2018-02-16T23:40:37 < branjb> ah
2018-02-16T23:40:38 < Rob235> it only has 128kb flash
2018-02-16T23:40:43 < Rob235> I think ramps has 256
2018-02-16T23:40:49 < branjb> similar to the one I have
2018-02-16T23:41:05 < Rob235> I'll be upgrading it a lot over time
2018-02-16T23:41:11 < Rob235> which is why I like these prusa type kits
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2018-02-17T00:18:25 < branjb> still waiting on UPS
2018-02-17T00:29:21 < Rob235> me too
2018-02-17T00:29:23 < Rob235> driving me crazy
2018-02-17T00:29:52 < Rob235> what is the 'end of the day' for them, 8?
2018-02-17T00:32:40 < Rob235> 7
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2018-02-17T00:36:12 < Steffanx> Poor yankees
2018-02-17T00:38:32 < branjb> I had a UPS package dropped off at 10pm in december
2018-02-17T00:42:54 < upgrdman> latest i've had was 9:45pm by fucking amazon
2018-02-17T00:43:05 < upgrdman> like, delivered by amazon, not a normal courier
2018-02-17T00:44:27 < Rob235> Ive been looking forward to putting this together all day, now I'm not really even in the mood
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2018-02-17T00:45:43 < branjb> ditto
2018-02-17T00:46:02 < branjb> today is my day off and I've been dicking around not doing anything because I've been waiting to get going once UPS drops these parts off
2018-02-17T00:46:17 < branjb> now I'm not that motivated
2018-02-17T00:46:37 < upgrdman> anyone seen ohsix talk in a while? did he ded?
2018-02-17T00:51:06 < branjb> he's still in the channel
2018-02-17T00:51:15 < branjb> so someone is paying his electricity bill
2018-02-17T00:51:59 < Steffanx> He is detached upgrdman. I think you should start worrying
2018-02-17T00:52:24 < upgrdman> hmm
2018-02-17T00:52:37 < upgrdman> if he still ded in a week, guess i could email him to see if he's really ded
2018-02-17T00:52:56 < Steffanx> You have his email address?
2018-02-17T00:53:04 < upgrdman> i do
2018-02-17T00:55:21 < Steffanx> ,aha
2018-02-17T00:55:49 < Steffanx> Who knows.
2018-02-17T00:55:57 < upgrdman> he sent me an email when i was AWOL a while ago. not sure how he got my email tho, but i prolly tweeted my email in hear some time ago
2018-02-17T00:56:05 < upgrdman> here*
2018-02-17T00:56:16 < Steffanx> Aha. Better ping him now
2018-02-17T00:56:26 < upgrdman> ok
2018-02-17T00:56:30 < branjb> between your youtube, github, and blog I could probably find enough to dox your email
2018-02-17T00:56:45  * upgrdman @jewmail
2018-02-17T00:56:48 < upgrdman> dox'd
2018-02-17T00:56:51 < branjb> yeah
2018-02-17T00:56:53 < branjb> see?
2018-02-17T00:57:17  * branjb @jewmail
2018-02-17T00:57:18 < branjb> doxed
2018-02-17T00:57:54 < Steffanx> You can dox me at stroop@waffle.express \o/
2018-02-17T00:58:24 < branjb> are stroop waffles really all that?
2018-02-17T00:58:35 < Steffanx> Yes.
2018-02-17T00:58:39 < Steffanx> No.
2018-02-17T00:58:50 < zyp> FileNotFound.
2018-02-17T00:58:55 < upgrdman> k i just pinged him.
2018-02-17T00:59:08 < Steffanx> What zyp? Its real. Email.
2018-02-17T01:00:26 < upgrdman> Steffanx, you should register http://speedy.waffel.services or something like that
2018-02-17T01:00:52 < unregisteredandu> wow i found an stm arm in a hp printer
2018-02-17T01:01:28 < Steffanx> Nah. Waffle.express is enough, upgrdman
2018-02-17T01:01:32 < zyp> Steffanx, https://thedailywtf.com/articles/What_Is_Truth_0x3f_
2018-02-17T01:01:54 < upgrdman> Steffanx, your site is empty.
2018-02-17T01:02:01 < upgrdman> derelection of duty
2018-02-17T01:02:26 < upgrdman> at least post some stolen poopwafel stock photo
2018-02-17T01:02:29 < Steffanx> Its not a site, just a domain
2018-02-17T01:02:39 < upgrdman> k
2018-02-17T01:02:41 < Steffanx> Oh, lol zyp
2018-02-17T01:03:40 < branjb> lmao, I had a domain name registered for a few years, with my firstnamelastname.com, let it expire because I didn't use it for anything.  some domain parker site bought it and wants to sell it for $4k
2018-02-17T01:04:12 < Steffanx> Yeah the fuckers
2018-02-17T01:04:21 < branjb> cancer
2018-02-17T01:04:42 < Steffanx> Trolls like that ruine the webs.
2018-02-17T01:05:04 < Steffanx> ##stm32 trolls are nothing compared to that
2018-02-17T01:05:08 < unregisteredandu> c9050-8066 rev 05.00 vj611pgn 2203g mlt22625  stm arm  anybody recognize this ?
2018-02-17T01:05:33 < Steffanx> Where did you read this mr unregisteredandu ?
2018-02-17T01:06:25 < unregisteredandu> Steffanx: in a HP printer, 6L or 5L i think
2018-02-17T01:06:47 < Steffanx> Oh a pcb?
2018-02-17T01:07:10 < Steffanx> Oh a chip :p
2018-02-17T01:10:35 < unregisteredandu> ya on a pcb, thisis a bga arm from st the full marking is: C9050-80066 REV. 05.00 VJ611PGN 2203G MLT22625 st ARM
2018-02-17T01:11:01 < unregisteredandu> another thing near it in lqfp is marked 1825-0140 REV 5.4S 990GR VH MYS 99 621 st
2018-02-17T01:11:51 < unregisteredandu> near the bga ic it looks like there is a memory on flash pad
2018-02-17T01:12:06 < unregisteredandu> but left out
2018-02-17T01:13:29 < unregisteredandu> i will try to fix my samsung printer for the last time
2018-02-17T01:13:31 < unregisteredandu> ;l
2018-02-17T01:14:12 < unregisteredandu> if its brain is dead then it is only component source
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2018-02-17T01:22:01 < Rob235> I hate you ups
2018-02-17T01:22:10 < branjb> ^
2018-02-17T01:22:16 < branjb> normally UPS drops off around 3
2018-02-17T01:22:18 < branjb> now 4:22
2018-02-17T01:22:23 < Rob235> 6:22 here
2018-02-17T01:23:21 < unregisteredandu> it is 0-24 on earth
2018-02-17T01:23:33 < Rob235> thats helpful... thanks
2018-02-17T01:24:03 < unregisteredandu> ±1 day, not good enough?
2018-02-17T01:24:50 < unregisteredandu> to be accurate, ± 0.5 day
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2018-02-17T01:30:43 < unregisteredandu> nah soldered some smd stuff with a 75W halogen light an sunglasses
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2018-02-17T01:40:18 < Laurenceb_> wew bbc radio 4
2018-02-17T01:40:24 < Laurenceb_>  "the male room"
2018-02-17T01:40:34 < Laurenceb_> MGTOW what have you unleashed
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2018-02-17T01:40:54 < Laurenceb_> now men look as pathetic as radfems
2018-02-17T01:43:10 < BrainDamage> loranceb news https://store.outernet.is/blogs/the-official-outernet-blog/world-record
2018-02-17T01:43:22 < BrainDamage> granted, 90W feed, still fuckin impressive
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2018-02-17T01:44:29 < Laurenceb_> >now men can experience the cringe of listening to radfems too
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2018-02-17T01:44:44 < Laurenceb_> they have a lineup of the most cringey end of the MRA spectrum
2018-02-17T01:44:58 < Laurenceb_> I can't believe what I'm hearing on the BBC
2018-02-17T01:45:03 < stvn> u wot
2018-02-17T01:45:48 < Laurenceb_> The web page at https://store.outernet.is/blogs/the-official-outernet-blog/world-record might be temporarily down or
2018-02-17T01:45:58 < Laurenceb_> stvn: I'm listening to BBC
2018-02-17T01:46:13 < Laurenceb_> they now have a mens rights program on bbc radio
2018-02-17T01:46:14 < BrainDamage> link works for me
2018-02-17T01:46:16 < stvn> why
2018-02-17T01:46:19 < Laurenceb_> i cant even right now
2018-02-17T01:46:24 < stvn> lol
2018-02-17T01:46:31 < unregisteredandu> btw if there is feminism then the mass gay thing is mainsm right?
2018-02-17T01:46:41 < unregisteredandu> *manism
2018-02-17T01:46:48 < stvn> sounds great
2018-02-17T01:46:50 < Laurenceb_> pretty much
2018-02-17T01:46:55 < stvn> is l0de on yet?
2018-02-17T01:46:57 < unregisteredandu> maleism = gays
2018-02-17T01:47:03 < Laurenceb_> its like the mirror image and just as bad
2018-02-17T01:47:37 < stvn> do you britfags still pay for that garbage tv?
2018-02-17T01:47:44 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-17T01:47:58 < Laurenceb_> >we are literally paying for MRA programs
2018-02-17T01:48:06 < Laurenceb_> radfems on suicide watch
2018-02-17T01:48:08 < unregisteredandu> now guess if my smd mosfets are all right or not, i have soldered them out with a 75W halogen light, without preheat
2018-02-17T01:48:23 < Laurenceb_> interesting
2018-02-17T01:48:31 < Laurenceb_> I half made a halogen reflow
2018-02-17T01:48:37 < Laurenceb_> >but then I got high
2018-02-17T01:48:46 < unregisteredandu> kul
2018-02-17T01:48:58 < unregisteredandu> i made this in 5 minutes
2018-02-17T01:49:48 < BrainDamage> did you have a thermocouple to measure the chip temps or did you just look at the solder melting?
2018-02-17T01:49:56 < BrainDamage> because I'd be curious of the temp profile
2018-02-17T01:51:17 < stvn> lol BrainDamage
2018-02-17T01:51:33 < Rob235> its here!
2018-02-17T01:51:37 < Rob235> finally
2018-02-17T01:51:51 < stvn> wait for the components to fall off
2018-02-17T01:52:54 < branjb> finally UPS delivered here too
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2018-02-17T02:16:10 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/EtTqF
2018-02-17T02:16:11 < Rob235> here we go
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2018-02-17T02:21:57 < upgrdman> Rob235, acme or ball screws? guessing acme
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2018-02-17T02:22:32 < Rob235> I dont know what that means hah
2018-02-17T02:22:58 < upgrdman> acme screws looks kinda like normal threads. ball screws have half-sphere threads
2018-02-17T02:23:03 < upgrdman> but nm, prolly acme
2018-02-17T02:23:33 < Rob235> yea probably, they are wrapped up atm
2018-02-17T02:24:28 < upgrdman> http://slideplayer.com/slide/7362200/24/images/41/Lead+Screw:+Ball+Vs.+Acme.jpg
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2018-02-17T02:27:33 < upgrdman> wtf. anyone know why a ballscrew would be single-start with such a high angle, like the ones of the left:  http://www.anaheimautomation.com/manuals/forms/images/banner-ball-screws.png
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2018-02-17T02:45:41 < branjb> upgrdman I don't ME very well but I bet torque
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2018-02-17T03:04:46 < stvn> saturday is for pumping
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2018-02-17T03:55:10 < upgrdman> Steffanx, confirmed ohsix is not ded. he's just "been busy."
2018-02-17T04:00:07 < stvn> he received stroopwafels
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2018-02-17T04:05:19 < Laurenceb_> busy fappin
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2018-02-17T04:18:56 < ffffffffffffffff> https://img.fae.ro/cf8cd1.webm
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2018-02-17T04:33:58 < stvn> tony
2018-02-17T04:41:01 < stvn> lolwtf with the vid
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2018-02-17T04:48:11 < Laurenceb_> fffffffffffffffffffff: OLD
2018-02-17T04:48:54 < stvn> h
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2018-02-17T05:48:00 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/gNBmuIi.jpg
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2018-02-17T05:57:27 < upgrdman> nice bird house  https://i.redd.it/91xlgakemkg01.jpg
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2018-02-17T06:30:34 < branjb> what did ohsix say?
2018-02-17T06:34:14 < upgrdman> branjb, "you still alive bro" -> "yeah, been busy"
2018-02-17T06:39:59 < branjb> oh
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2018-02-17T07:02:12 < ohsix> sup
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2018-02-17T07:08:38 < R0b0t1`> https://bpaste.net/show/b6cc699a8e43
2018-02-17T07:08:40 < R0b0t1`> This doesn't work
2018-02-17T07:08:51 < R0b0t1`> If I move the check for ms % 1000 into the interrupt handler, it does work
2018-02-17T07:08:58 < R0b0t1`> The variable is volatile
2018-02-17T07:19:16 < unregisteredandu> hello
2018-02-17T07:19:19 < unregisteredandu> wassup
2018-02-17T07:21:18 < ohsix> it's not keeping me off irc per-se, but i've been having some troubles with a crazy lady coming after me and harassing my friends & shit, trying to do good things for people with my time
2018-02-17T07:23:09 < ohsix> everything you might call crazy or stupid ends up being really trivial with a good example
2018-02-17T07:24:07 < unregisteredandu> been soldering out 20 smd mosfets and some caps, resistors with a 75W halogen lamp
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2018-02-17T08:03:40 < R0b0t1`> Hello ohsix
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2018-02-17T09:25:12 < unregisteredandu> [08:12] <nuxil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYLBjScgb7o just lol. [08:23] <unregisteredandu> nuxil: he found the meaning of his life
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2018-02-17T11:17:35 < jadew> anyone knows the difference between micro-co3, co3 and co5 cardboard?
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2018-02-17T11:26:08 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FN9J4zgsgk
2018-02-17T11:26:35 < jadew> wtf is he wearing?
2018-02-17T11:28:05 < stvn> lol
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2018-02-17T11:44:51 < Steffanx> Jadew, Thats stvns dad. Explains everything right?
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2018-02-17T12:18:38 < stvn> Hi steffan
2018-02-17T12:21:46 < Steffanx> Lo
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2018-02-17T12:35:40 < unregisteredandu> Tris
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2018-02-17T12:53:17 < tct> good day to you, people of the internet
2018-02-17T13:00:02 < stvn> hi
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2018-02-17T15:20:38 < dongs> well, whoops.
2018-02-17T15:20:55 < dongs> zyp_: this shithub has 2 chips, VL812
2018-02-17T15:21:03 < dongs> i guess it handles all the lane swapping and hubbing.
2018-02-17T15:23:21 < karlp> and it has usb-c connectors?
2018-02-17T15:23:24 < dongs> y
2018-02-17T15:23:39 < dongs> http://www.via-labs.com/product_show.php?id=41
2018-02-17T15:23:44 < dongs> two of these, cascaded
2018-02-17T15:23:59 < karlp> nothing on that page indicuates any hint of support for lane swapping
2018-02-17T15:24:01 < dongs> upstream -> #1, two type A -> #2, two type C
2018-02-17T15:24:32 < karlp> two _chips_ ? it's a four port hub chip
2018-02-17T15:24:54 < dongs> correct
2018-02-17T15:25:37 < dongs> back of PCB just has configuration eeproms
2018-02-17T15:25:40 < dongs> and some caps
2018-02-17T15:25:53 < karlp> but it has one upstream and four downstream already, why does it need a second chip?
2018-02-17T15:26:11 < dongs> like i said, they cascaded two type C off the 1st one
2018-02-17T15:26:18 < dongs> i wonder if the 812 does have some lane-swapping shite
2018-02-17T15:26:22 < dongs> but it only works if all porst are type C
2018-02-17T15:26:30 < dongs> so they cant put all 4 ports off same chip
2018-02-17T15:26:31 < dongs> fuck knows
2018-02-17T15:27:13 < karlp> that's probably it
2018-02-17T15:27:16 < karlp> heh
2018-02-17T15:27:17 < karlp> of course
2018-02-17T15:27:23 < karlp> they use two ports for each type c
2018-02-17T15:27:38 < karlp> and just wire the "upside down" lanes to one, and the "right side up" lanes to the other
2018-02-17T15:27:41 < karlp> hehe
2018-02-17T15:27:50 < karlp> "auto swapping"
2018-02-17T15:28:06 < karlp> you should be able to verify that by unplugging and plugging it in upside down and seeing it's positon on teh hub change
2018-02-17T15:29:41 < dongs> ...
2018-02-17T15:29:46 < dongs> are yo userious lol
2018-02-17T15:29:55 < dongs> thats a hilarious hack.
2018-02-17T15:30:53 < karlp> it's my idea, not being a usb3 designer, but it should be super easy to check :)
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2018-02-17T15:38:37 < dongs> well, how would i see this in windows
2018-02-17T15:38:44 < dongs> i guess tehre's some usb tree thing
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2018-02-17T15:40:21 < karlp> lsusb -t :)
2018-02-17T15:40:33 < karlp> I'm sure there's somethign in device manager about it's hub port
2018-02-17T15:40:35 < Steffanx> afaik the device manager can show it
2018-02-17T15:40:39 < karlp> probably in some deep dropdown
2018-02-17T15:41:03 < Steffanx> No just "Universal serial bus controllers". Double click the device and it shows hub/port
2018-02-17T15:42:24 < Steffanx> Not sure if it shows all devices there
2018-02-17T15:57:03 < dongs> ok im curious enough to power up my laptop
2018-02-17T15:59:06  * karlp is excited
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2018-02-17T16:00:31 < dongs> so far looks promising
2018-02-17T16:00:42 < dongs> 1st hub has 3 ports configured. 2nd one has 4
2018-02-17T16:01:05 < karlp> yeah, two c-ports on second hub
2018-02-17T16:01:07  * karlp crosses fingers
2018-02-17T16:01:22 < dongs> yep
2018-02-17T16:01:23 < dongs> bingo
2018-02-17T16:01:26 < dongs> plugged one way
2018-02-17T16:01:28 < dongs> its in port3
2018-02-17T16:01:30 < dongs> other way, port4
2018-02-17T16:01:32 < karlp> hehe :)
2018-02-17T16:01:35 < karlp> neat trick
2018-02-17T16:01:45  * karlp files that away for future reference
2018-02-17T16:01:57 < dongs> ya no sht
2018-02-17T16:02:27 < karlp> you don't get _any_ of the usb-c features like that, no up/downstream shit, not usb-pd or anything
2018-02-17T16:02:27 < Steffanx> heh lol
2018-02-17T16:02:42 < karlp> but you get usb-c connectors on a regular usb downstream port like people are used to
2018-02-17T16:02:50 < dongs> karlp: correct, this shit doesnt do any of that. infact my laptop bitched that dispalyport functionality would not work
2018-02-17T16:02:59 < dongs> because i passed a hub with dp on it through that shit
2018-02-17T16:03:07  * karlp laughs
2018-02-17T16:03:14 < karlp> "where are my other pairs?!"
2018-02-17T16:03:20 < dongs> Lol
2018-02-17T16:03:26 < dongs> "on the other port"
2018-02-17T16:03:31  * karlp giggles
2018-02-17T16:03:43 < dongs> china wins this round
2018-02-17T16:03:46 < dongs> $25 well spent
2018-02-17T16:05:10 < Thorn> pcbway https://i.imgur.com/wCwY5t9.jpg
2018-02-17T16:08:23 < dongs> not enough usb-c there thorn
2018-02-17T16:09:49 < karlp> Thorn: what are r17 and r18?
2018-02-17T16:10:34 < karlp> why so huge for starters?
2018-02-17T16:10:35 < Thorn> 100 mA polyfuses
2018-02-17T16:11:01 < Thorn> that's what lcsc had in stock
2018-02-17T16:11:03 < dongs> looks like a typical DMX setup with fuses yea
2018-02-17T16:11:19 < karlp> is that to prvent people wiring 12V to A or B deliebrately then, rather than sort of transient?
2018-02-17T16:11:25 < Thorn> well I came up with it myself so if it makes sense then great
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2018-02-17T16:11:54 < Thorn> deliberately or not but it is supposed to withstand it indefinitely
2018-02-17T16:12:48 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EW-6BNnwCE
2018-02-17T16:13:03 < Thorn> btw the dicktrace pattern for 2812 may be too large
2018-02-17T16:31:36 < Laurenceb_> https://www.rt.com/news/418921-australia-ban-sex-ministers/
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2018-02-17T16:40:36 < zyp_> dongs, haha, nice
2018-02-17T16:41:26 < zyp_> makes total sense though, if you're only going to do host ports anyway, might as well just wire up two ports rather than adding a mux in front of one
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2018-02-17T16:45:29 < Laurenceb_> >all websites available to the UK will need credit card verification to show adult content after April
2018-02-17T16:45:38 < Laurenceb_> UK on suicide watch
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2018-02-17T16:49:12 < Laurenceb_> >implying people won't all be wanking to fully clothed pictures of thatcher within 2 days
2018-02-17T16:50:06 < BrainDamage> isn't it simpler to just cut the internet off uk?
2018-02-17T16:51:53 < Laurenceb_> >Theresa May bans pronz so she can finally get some male attention
2018-02-17T16:51:56 < Laurenceb_> kekking
2018-02-17T16:52:55 < Laurenceb_> wew
2018-02-17T16:53:03 < Laurenceb_> reddit and chans are going to be blocked
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2018-02-17T17:10:46 < Steffanx> The blocking is bad, but it's no loss at all.
2018-02-17T17:11:33 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT4hog3qOrs
2018-02-17T17:11:48 < Laurenceb_> we will no longer be able to read redchanit
2018-02-17T17:12:13 < Steffanx> Like i said, no loss
2018-02-17T17:13:54 < Steffanx> Im not sure if it's a good thing for us or not. Will you post more or less crap..
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2018-02-17T17:29:25 < Rob235> ugh I hate my gf
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2018-02-17T17:31:49 < Steffanx> still?
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2018-02-17T17:36:21 < Rob235> things have actually been pretty good lately but now shes back to being a bitch
2018-02-17T17:36:38 < Laurenceb_> I will have to get a real jerb if chans are b&
2018-02-17T17:36:53 < Laurenceb_> maybe I could become a BBC token MRA/MGTOW
2018-02-17T17:37:07 < Laurenceb_> they are clearly reacting to Jordan Peterson
2018-02-17T17:37:57 < Laurenceb_>  "up next: the Elliot Rodgers show"
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2018-02-17T17:42:21 < Laurenceb_> https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/EVK-M8U_UserGuide_%28UBX-15023994%29.pdf
2018-02-17T17:42:23 < Laurenceb_> sweeet
2018-02-17T17:42:34  * Laurenceb_ buys one for waaaambulance project
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2018-02-17T17:45:03 < Laurenceb_> https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/NEO-M8U_DataSheet_%28UBX-15015679%29.pdf
2018-02-17T17:45:21 < Laurenceb_> 20hz with built in self calibrating imu
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2018-02-17T17:50:06 < Laurenceb_> serious lack of documentation considering how complex it is...
2018-02-17T17:59:37 < Steffanx> maybe they just dont want to share it publicly?
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2018-02-17T18:01:15 < fest> Rob235: there are two things a man should not complain about: car and woman. After all, one chooses them himself
2018-02-17T18:01:38 < branjb> Rob235 how's the printer build going
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2018-02-17T18:18:16 < Rob235> about halfway done, just started up again
2018-02-17T18:18:24 < Rob235> going well though
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2018-02-17T18:27:48 < englishman> lol that usb hub hackk
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2018-02-17T18:45:02 < Laurenceb_> usb hub hacking?
2018-02-17T18:45:08 < Laurenceb_> I resemble this remark
2018-02-17T18:45:50 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2018-02-17T18:46:05 < Laurenceb_> neo-m8u is a 2hz gps + imu at 20hz
2018-02-17T18:46:10 < Laurenceb_> sounds like fail to me
2018-02-17T18:46:23 < Laurenceb_> regular ublox8 can do 20hz gps
2018-02-17T18:46:39 < Laurenceb_> maybe they ran out of cpu cycles
2018-02-17T18:47:59 < englishman> what is m8u
2018-02-17T18:48:06 < englishman> wait with imu inside?
2018-02-17T18:48:31 < englishman> cheap tho
2018-02-17T18:49:59 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2018-02-17T18:50:14 < Laurenceb_> I'm not convinced that they didnt screw it up
2018-02-17T18:50:37 < Laurenceb_> I'd have thought regular 20hz ublox8 with 20hz or maybe 50hz imu update was the way to do it
2018-02-17T18:51:17 < Laurenceb_> ublox8 is already good enough to see individual steps if you are holding the antenna and walking
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2018-02-17T18:55:56 < Laurenceb_> hmm dunno what to install in the waaambulance
2018-02-17T18:56:29 < englishman> kite string on a spool with rotary encoder
2018-02-17T19:02:33 < karlp> fest: very nice statement on things not to compalin about :)
2018-02-17T19:06:04 < zyp> was about to say, well put
2018-02-17T19:06:50 < Laurenceb_> too busy complaining about mummy may here
2018-02-17T19:10:35 < karlp> my brother has a corroloray on domestic violence
2018-02-17T19:10:45 < karlp> why would you beat your wife? it's like keying your own car
2018-02-17T19:17:29 < englishman> some people pay extra for pre-torn jeans
2018-02-17T19:30:46 < Laurenceb_> >beating your wife
2018-02-17T19:30:58 < Laurenceb_> >not using controlling behaviour
2018-02-17T19:31:08 < englishman> USA will stop school shootings by closing all schools
2018-02-17T19:31:47 < Laurenceb_> just subsidise 4chan
2018-02-17T19:32:00 < Laurenceb_> then the shooters can hang on /r9k/ all day
2018-02-17T19:34:21 < Laurenceb_> or a VR school shooting simulation
2018-02-17T19:34:58 < Laurenceb_> irl classroom gets hooked up to electric shock machine and stunned when they get shot in VR
2018-02-17T19:35:18 < Laurenceb_> satisfying sadistic desires safely
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2018-02-17T19:39:37 < bvernoux> Hello
2018-02-17T19:40:04 < bvernoux> I'm late but it seems TrueStudio STM32 v9 is now available (1 month ago in fact)
2018-02-17T19:40:09 < bvernoux> does some guys have tested it here ?
2018-02-17T19:40:14 < Laurenceb_> >literally why
2018-02-17T19:40:22 < bvernoux> as it is fully free and seems amazing
2018-02-17T19:40:29 < englishman> hello b
2018-02-17T19:40:30 < Laurenceb_> so GCC then?
2018-02-17T19:40:33 < englishman> yes some here have tried it
2018-02-17T19:40:52 < bvernoux> IIRC it is compatible with makefile to keep the things like before you you love doing all from a shell ;)
2018-02-17T19:41:05 < bvernoux> and it is nice ?
2018-02-17T19:41:29 < bvernoux> I think it shall simplify lot of stuff compared to Eclipse based IDE ...
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2018-02-17T19:46:36 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o sterna] by Steffanx
2018-02-17T19:46:44 < bvernoux> so what is your opinion about it ?
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2018-02-17T19:49:30 <@englishman> i havent used it myself, it's interesting for people stuck using 1980s toolchains tho
2018-02-17T19:49:49 <@englishman> and on inferior open source operating systems
2018-02-17T19:49:56 <@englishman> or fruit-based operating systems
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2018-02-17T19:50:59 < Steffanx> truestudio is a eclipse based ide, so .. how does it simplify stuff?
2018-02-17T19:51:02 < Steffanx> mr bvernoux?
2018-02-17T19:52:06 < Steffanx> Anyway, I've played around with it a bit and i like it. All the fancy rtos helpers and swo etc. are pretty handy
2018-02-17T19:52:15 < Steffanx> and the ide is better than keil obviously
2018-02-17T19:53:51 < bvernoux> yes true it is an eclipse IDE but it is designed for STM32 now ;)
2018-02-17T19:54:11 < bvernoux> so it could be better than just Eclipse+GCC+ARM plugin
2018-02-17T19:54:27 < bvernoux> ha great
2018-02-17T19:54:36 < bvernoux> I'm installing it now ;)
2018-02-17T19:55:11 < Steffanx> Is certainly better than just a bunch of eclipse plugins put together.
2018-02-17T19:55:32 < bvernoux> ok so it is a great news for lot of open source or even commercial project using STM32 ;)
2018-02-17T19:55:42 < bvernoux> especially it is free with all PRO features ...
2018-02-17T19:56:08 < Steffanx> and it can import/convert that other stm32 ide projects
2018-02-17T19:56:12 < Steffanx> ac6
2018-02-17T19:56:21 < bvernoux> I was using AC6 but it was not good to debug makefile project ...
2018-02-17T19:57:33 < bvernoux> what is not clear towards ST is if they have dropped AC6 or no
2018-02-17T19:57:38 < bvernoux> as now there is 2 IDE ...
2018-02-17T19:57:55 < Steffanx> lol, AC6 was crap. Was it ever a ST project anyway?
2018-02-17T19:59:10 < bvernoux> hehe yes in background ;)
2018-02-17T19:59:26 < bvernoux> anyway my AC6 project is well imported in TrueSTudio !!
2018-02-17T19:59:27 < bvernoux> nice
2018-02-17T19:59:46 < bvernoux> and it support well the makefile as I love to have all in Makefile
2018-02-17T20:03:10 < ohsix> sup
2018-02-17T20:03:57 < englishman> wb 06
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2018-02-17T20:11:03 < Steffanx> ohsix have you met polymorph yet?
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2018-02-17T20:15:48 < Rickta59> i guess it was easier to buy Atolic than get the ac6 contractors to fix their stuff
2018-02-17T20:16:52 < ohsix> what's a polymorph
2018-02-17T20:17:04 < ohsix> press z to zap wall, self, other
2018-02-17T20:17:11 < Steffanx> A ##stm32 visitor, ohsix
2018-02-17T20:17:13 < Rickta59> I had tried TrueStudio on linux before it was free and the license manager install fell down .. i didn't bother .. since it has been free I installed and it and it "just worked" amazing what happens when get rid of stupid DMCA things
2018-02-17T20:18:41 < Rickta59> it also prompted me to try out the jlink firmware for discovery boards so I could use that with Truestdio .. although I'm not sure that bought me much
2018-02-17T20:21:20 < bvernoux> yes the Jlink can be used freely also with STM32Demo Board
2018-02-17T20:21:37 < bvernoux> and it seems really fast vs STLink ...
2018-02-17T20:22:31 < Rickta59> didn't feel much different to me .. but I'm not loading massive code (smt32f103c8 stuff)
2018-02-17T20:22:49 < bvernoux> my actual project is using high end STM32F7
2018-02-17T20:23:00 < bvernoux> with MIPI-DSI ;)
2018-02-17T20:23:08 < bvernoux> but I'm waiting the H7 with same feature
2018-02-17T20:23:08 < Rickta59> probably more obvious there
2018-02-17T20:23:37 < bvernoux> as H7 seems is definitely a game changer for advanced things and ultra fast realtime ...
2018-02-17T20:27:37 < ohsix> Steffanx: not in the buffer, who is it
2018-02-17T20:29:39 < bvernoux> anyway H7 is a bit too new for the moment ;)
2018-02-17T20:30:15 < bvernoux> advantage is F7 pinout is fully compatible with H7 (except on some low pin or BGA ...)
2018-02-17T20:31:27 < Steffanx> nevermind ohsix
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2018-02-17T20:35:58 < bvernoux> Does anyone have tried the new ST Cellular-to-Cloud kit ?
2018-02-17T20:36:10 < bvernoux> it is funny to have 2G/3G/4G as extension
2018-02-17T20:36:30 < bvernoux> i'm using Quectel UG96 as works and it work fine
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2018-02-17T20:42:20 < unregisteredunsu> hellooou
2018-02-17T20:43:59 < Steffanx> ^ that's him, ohsix :P
2018-02-17T20:44:36 < unregisteredunsu> wat
2018-02-17T20:45:55 < unregisteredunsu> whooohoooo 20 x 12A+ PMOSFETS ready to use
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2018-02-17T22:03:20 < ohsix> Steffanx: no idea
2018-02-17T22:32:33 < unregisteredunsu> what's cookin'?
2018-02-17T22:39:13 < unregisteredunsu> haha
2018-02-17T22:39:14 < unregisteredunsu> [21:35] <unregisteredunsu> polprog:  why do you think the fungi would care if you drunk out of that cup? [21:35] <polprog> no, but id care if i did electrolysis in that cup before [21:36] <unregisteredunsu> get an ultrasonic cleaner and paper towels [21:37] <unregisteredunsu> though i would use different cups for drinking and chemicals/biolab
2018-02-17T22:39:32 < sync> upgrdman: speed
2018-02-17T22:44:44 < Steffanx> You're doing it wrong, but enjoy superbia1
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2018-02-17T23:03:15 < unregisteredunsu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PpszjaNF8s  - waiting for tha ZAP,BANG
2018-02-17T23:20:24 < ohsix> the monoprice mini select is amaze for 200bux
2018-02-17T23:20:45 < ohsix> different class printer, but even with qualifications it makes the lulzbot stuff look like trash
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2018-02-17T23:31:09 < unregisteredunsu> btw hack that hot extruder and print with weed trimmer line, or polycarbonate  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQk3jsIkmz0
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2018-02-17T23:49:15 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/wBaR08J.png
2018-02-17T23:49:19 < Rob235> just gotta finish up the wiring
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2018-02-18T00:13:37 < unregisteredunsu> Rob235: that is not even complicated, 1 minute work?
2018-02-18T00:14:15 < Rob235> the wiring? yea its simple, wrapping the wires is actually what im doing right now which is annoying
2018-02-18T00:14:44 < Rob235> I've never been great at cable management
2018-02-18T00:15:03 < Steffanx> unregisteredunsu: do you have a job? If not, your boss would love you for your inaccurate estimates
2018-02-18T00:15:16 < Steffanx> If you do, the same applies
2018-02-18T00:15:19 < unregisteredunsu> Steffanx: haha
2018-02-18T00:15:21 < Rob235> heh
2018-02-18T00:15:47 < unregisteredunsu> Steffanx: what if im the boss?
2018-02-18T00:16:02 < Rob235> then your company is fucked
2018-02-18T00:16:23 < Steffanx> Your clients will love you. Low estimates, low costs
2018-02-18T00:17:03 < unregisteredunsu> Steffanx:  i don't work for time usually
2018-02-18T00:18:03 < Steffanx> They never ask you when itll be done, unregisteredunsu ?
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2018-02-18T00:20:11 < unregisteredunsu> Steffanx: we can make a deal for total cost and the time varies with rate if i accept it, sounds fair?
2018-02-18T00:22:02 < unregisteredunsu> i wont take anfbody's time (and especially my own) just to ask more :P
2018-02-18T00:22:18 < unregisteredunsu> s/f/y/
2018-02-18T00:27:08 < unregisteredunsu> will i be able to fix my samsung ml 2570 or it will parts? :/  i suspect it is either braindead or a stepper motor shorted
2018-02-18T00:27:54 < unregisteredunsu> if it is braindead i have a free 1200x1200 dpi laser printer development platform, i just need an stm32 arm to power it
2018-02-18T00:30:27 < unregisteredunsu> my bet is it has a power on hour counter and it commits suicide after 3 years power on or 1 year
2018-02-18T00:30:33 < unregisteredunsu> "samsung
2018-02-18T00:30:56 < Steffanx> What kind of business are you in unregisteredunsu ?
2018-02-18T00:32:11 < unregisteredunsu> Steffanx: i do electronics also design and programming
2018-02-18T00:32:16 < unregisteredunsu> mostly
2018-02-18T00:32:22 < englishman> cool
2018-02-18T00:32:26 < englishman> welcome to ##stm32
2018-02-18T00:32:30 < englishman> we are all pros here, like you
2018-02-18T00:32:43 < Steffanx> Only when he uses keil
2018-02-18T00:33:37 < unregisteredunsu> englishman: cool
2018-02-18T00:34:30 < unregisteredunsu> anybody made a main control board for laser printer yet?
2018-02-18T00:35:18 < unregisteredunsu> this one has a rotating mirror for the laser scanner so the laser on off must be timed
2018-02-18T00:35:24 < Steffanx> No i would just buy a new one and trash the old one
2018-02-18T00:35:42 < unregisteredunsu> Steffanx: everybody needs a hobby too
2018-02-18T00:35:50 < Steffanx> Truea
2018-02-18T00:36:10 < unregisteredunsu> if i share the code open then i can also piss off samsung
2018-02-18T00:36:47 < unregisteredunsu> i dont like people selling crap to me
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2018-02-18T01:12:59 < Laurenceb_> http://www.picstop.co.uk/sdxc-memory/sandisk-extreme-pro-sdxc-card-1tb.html
2018-02-18T01:13:01 < Laurenceb_> lel
2018-02-18T01:16:26 < unregisteredunsu> i have picked STM32F373 what is your opinion? :)
2018-02-18T01:29:21 < upgrdman> sync, re: speed, wouldnt two-start or three-start be the same speed as long as it has the same, uh, "angle"?
2018-02-18T01:29:37 < upgrdman> s/angle/pitch?
2018-02-18T01:31:19 < sync> yes
2018-02-18T01:31:22 < sync> but no need
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2018-02-18T01:32:01 < sync> there are specialized screws like that, but they are uncommon
2018-02-18T01:32:46 < sync> the issue why you use high pitch screws is that your screw is limited by the speed it can rotate at
2018-02-18T01:35:09 < sync> an alternative is low pitch and a rotating nut
2018-02-18T01:35:14 < sync> but that sucks diq to make
2018-02-18T01:36:16 < Rob235> nice, just gotta figure out how to secure these two limit switches and I'm done
2018-02-18T01:36:32 < unregisteredunsu> my "1200x1200 dpi" samsung printer has 32MB ram ;/   https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-ml-2570-printer-monochrome-laser-series/specs/
2018-02-18T01:36:55 < unregisteredunsu> what a coincidence, i scale 1200x1200 dpi bitmap down to 600x600 dpi and i get 32MB required memory
2018-02-18T01:41:29 < unregisteredunsu> so the solution to printer memory is buffer underrun protection +circular/ring buffer
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2018-02-18T01:50:13 < Laurenceb_> anyone here used GPSD?
2018-02-18T01:50:39 < Laurenceb_> I'm wondering how much hassle it is to use it with a ROM based ublox, where I will need to send a load of config hex to the module
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2018-02-18T02:06:23 < tct> I'm ready to go to bed now
2018-02-18T02:08:14 < Steffanx> Me too
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2018-02-18T02:21:48 < branjb> router is coming along swell https://imgur.com/a/aXnEr
2018-02-18T02:22:09 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/4pPaALk.png
2018-02-18T02:22:14 < Rob235> finished!
2018-02-18T02:22:22 < branjb> you printed anything yet?
2018-02-18T02:22:26 < tct> let the printer talk begin
2018-02-18T02:22:43 < tct> looks nice, branjb
2018-02-18T02:22:47 < Rob235> nope and cant right now
2018-02-18T02:23:08 < tct> is the library closed?
2018-02-18T02:23:16 < branjb> I had to take a break, back is killing me.  Still need to wire all the steppers, hoses for water cooling, and put the dust boot on it
2018-02-18T02:23:21 < Laurenceb_> aha gpsctl is part of the gpsd tools
2018-02-18T02:23:22 < Laurenceb_> AUTHOR
2018-02-18T02:23:23 < Laurenceb_>        Eric S. Raymond
2018-02-18T02:23:26 < Laurenceb_> W E W
2018-02-18T02:25:01 < branjb> I'm stuck between wanting to do it right disconnects on the steppers, terminals going into a control box, clean wiring) and just ghetto rigging it to get it working now and clean it up later
2018-02-18T02:25:18 < branjb> if I ghetto rig it and clean it later potential to massively procrastinate on the clean it up later part
2018-02-18T02:25:18 < tct> branjb, better take a real brake.
2018-02-18T02:25:22 < tct> break*
2018-02-18T02:25:39 < tct> branjb, +1 for break now and doing everything properly afterwards
2018-02-18T02:26:39 < branjb> I bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AAU5D6Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 as an enclosure for the stepper drivers/motion controller/raspberry pi
2018-02-18T02:45:16 < Laurenceb_> wtf Eric Raymond
2018-02-18T02:45:23 < Laurenceb_> wtf I hate Eric Raymond now
2018-02-18T02:45:37 < Laurenceb_> he can't read UBX protocol spec
2018-02-18T02:46:01 < Laurenceb_> he put measRate  and navRate in wrong order
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2018-02-18T02:48:58 < tct> blaxter.
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2018-02-18T02:50:41 < dongs> pmpo
2018-02-18T02:50:47 < stvn> pumper
2018-02-18T02:50:57 < Laurenceb_> so much fail here
2018-02-18T02:51:03 < stvn> u wot
2018-02-18T02:51:06 < Laurenceb_> Eric Raymond confirmed as full of shit
2018-02-18T02:51:17 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying to make gpsd work
2018-02-18T02:51:21 < dongs> he does enjoy dudes
2018-02-18T02:51:24 < Laurenceb_> its written by Eric Raymond
2018-02-18T02:51:25 < dongs> what is it
2018-02-18T02:51:27 < stvn> is that linux
2018-02-18T02:51:33 < Laurenceb_> GPS lunix shit
2018-02-18T02:51:34 < dongs> of course it is
2018-02-18T02:51:45 < Laurenceb_> he can't even read UBX protocol
2018-02-18T02:51:51 < Laurenceb_> ardutards can get that to work
2018-02-18T02:52:08 < Laurenceb_> shit is all fucked and in wrong order
2018-02-18T02:52:15 < dongs> nice
2018-02-18T02:52:23 < tct> better go to bed, mr. blaxter
2018-02-18T02:52:38 < Laurenceb_> who the fuck is tct?
2018-02-18T02:52:47 < stvn> :3
2018-02-18T02:53:06 < Laurenceb_> havent seen him before
2018-02-18T02:53:12 < stvn> suure you havent
2018-02-18T02:53:25 < tct> please don't be so negative. why are you so offensive? this is totally inappropriate
2018-02-18T02:53:34 < Laurenceb_> *triggered*
2018-02-18T02:53:35 < Rob235> penis
2018-02-18T02:53:39 < dongs> *niggered*
2018-02-18T02:53:42 < stvn> tct is having a stroopwafel rush
2018-02-18T02:53:54 < Laurenceb_> wait wut
2018-02-18T02:53:57 < tct> such cover blowing
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2018-02-18T02:54:19 < Laurenceb_>  gpsctl -b -c 10 -e -t UBX
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2018-02-18T02:54:24 < Laurenceb_>  gpsctl -b -c 1 -e -t UBX
2018-02-18T02:54:30 < Laurenceb_> generates the same code
2018-02-18T02:54:32 < Laurenceb_> wtf man
2018-02-18T02:54:52 < tct> oh no, I feel so offended
2018-02-18T02:54:59 < dongs> what is the gpsd output?
2018-02-18T02:55:04 < dongs> does it simulate nmea from ubx data?
2018-02-18T02:55:11 < Laurenceb_> Tectu@adsl-130-227.dsl.init7.net
2018-02-18T02:55:22 < dongs> quick, packet him
2018-02-18T02:55:25 < Laurenceb_> kek
2018-02-18T02:55:27 < dongs> for great justice
2018-02-18T02:55:56 < Laurenceb_> wtf does -b even do
2018-02-18T02:56:00 < Laurenceb_> I cant even right now
2018-02-18T02:56:08 < tct> as if it would have been a secret that I lost my vowels
2018-02-18T02:56:29 < dongs> Laurenceb_: unbans you after much rage
2018-02-18T02:56:37 < Laurenceb_> -b
2018-02-18T02:56:37 < Laurenceb_>            Put the GPS into binary mode.
2018-02-18T02:56:40 < Laurenceb_> WHAT
2018-02-18T02:56:49 < Laurenceb_> fail level >9000
2018-02-18T02:57:10 < Laurenceb_> there is no command generated to put gps into binary
2018-02-18T02:57:33 < Laurenceb_> worse than useless sw
2018-02-18T02:57:47 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-18T02:57:57 < stvn> why go near it?
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2018-02-18T02:58:13 < Laurenceb_> just generates random shit that looks vaguely like actual config
2018-02-18T02:58:17 < stvn> someone must be paying a good money
2018-02-18T02:58:18 < Laurenceb_> cargo cult config tool
2018-02-18T03:00:33 < Laurenceb_> oh ok -b is ignored with the output piped to a file
2018-02-18T03:01:54 < Laurenceb_> gps output datarate packet is fixed at 1/1.2Hz
2018-02-18T03:01:59 < Laurenceb_> wtf ERIC
2018-02-18T03:02:14 < Laurenceb_> -c
2018-02-18T03:02:15 < Laurenceb_>     Change the GPS's cycle time
2018-02-18T03:02:18 < Laurenceb_> >no effect
2018-02-18T03:04:37 < Laurenceb_> http://gpsd-users.berlios.narkive.com/KN7WqnjE/gpsctl-b-doesn-t-work-for-ublox
2018-02-18T03:04:44 < Laurenceb_> >ovccasional contributor
2018-02-18T03:06:13 < stvn> fucking linucks
2018-02-18T03:10:47 < Laurenceb_> oh wow
2018-02-18T03:10:59 < Laurenceb_> he mixed up seconds and milliseconds
2018-02-18T03:11:00 < willmore> Is anyone familiar with the USB ACM?  Is SPI and I2C part of it or just async serial?
2018-02-18T03:11:01 < Laurenceb_> wtf Eric
2018-02-18T03:11:36 < dongs> willmore: definitely not why would tehy be
2018-02-18T03:12:42 < willmore> dongs, why not?
2018-02-18T03:12:44 < dongs> laurence/b/, sores is open so just fix it?
2018-02-18T03:12:46 < dongs> willmore: why would it be?
2018-02-18T03:13:01 < dongs> serial is serial and those 2 things are completely different embedded buses
2018-02-18T03:13:11 < Laurenceb_> dongs: yeah I guess...
2018-02-18T03:13:15 < willmore> Communication Device Class/ Abstract Control Model.  Where's it say just async serial?
2018-02-18T03:13:19 < Laurenceb_> unless he has fixed it recently
2018-02-18T03:13:26 < Laurenceb_> my repo is old due to more lunix failz
2018-02-18T03:14:35 < Laurenceb_> yeah he mixed up ms and s in the interface with the ubx driver but uses sanity checking in the ubx driver in ms
2018-02-18T03:14:46 < Laurenceb_> so it fails epically
2018-02-18T03:17:24 < Laurenceb_> >Better support for mode and speed switching in the UBX driver
2018-02-18T03:17:37 < Laurenceb_> was added in newer version that ubuntu doesnt have
2018-02-18T03:17:41 < Laurenceb_> pwnd
2018-02-18T03:18:51 < stvn> why don't the fucking do it
2018-02-18T03:19:01 < Laurenceb_> just reading the UBX pdf, it explains the ublox with imu in more detail, looks like they ran out of cpu cycles
2018-02-18T03:19:09 < stvn> the kernel doesn't support coffee lake gfx
2018-02-18T03:19:16 < Laurenceb_> so the imu thingy has gps @2hz, imu @20hz
2018-02-18T03:19:21 < stvn> cause nobody running ubuntu can afford it?
2018-02-18T03:19:23 < Laurenceb_> moar fail
2018-02-18T03:19:29 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-18T03:19:49 < stvn> the whole thing is fucking nigger
2018-02-18T03:20:47 < stvn> new in ubuntu 18 - support for tseng labs et4000 (c)1993
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2018-02-18T04:00:13 < Thorn> is anyone using visual studio code for cortex projects? I can't get intellisense to work properly
2018-02-18T04:01:25 < Thorn> it keeps highlighting all CMSIS/LL functions, etc. even after I put everything I could find into c_cpp_properies.json
2018-02-18T04:02:00 < dongs> is that the idiotic javascript "editor"?
2018-02-18T04:02:06 < dongs> you're better off paying for visualgdb
2018-02-18T04:02:09 < Thorn> micros~1 is obviously learning from lunix, now they have config files and nothing works
2018-02-18T04:02:09 < dongs> instead of that FUCKING AIDS
2018-02-18T04:04:49 < Thorn> it's not just javascript, it has c/c++ support with intellisense
2018-02-18T04:05:30 < stvn> where do i get one
2018-02-18T04:10:57 < dongs> Thorn: its fucking WRITTEN in javashit
2018-02-18T04:11:01 < dongs> therefore its a nonstarter
2018-02-18T04:22:41 < stvn> who could do such evil things
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2018-02-18T04:38:48 < upgrdman> lol. some dildo driving a golf cart 20kmh down a 2-lane street got pissed off when i tailgated him.
2018-02-18T04:39:33 < Laurenceb_> hey I was only taking a driving lesson
2018-02-18T04:39:42 < upgrdman> heh
2018-02-18T04:39:44 < Laurenceb_> muh Corsa is leaking oil :(
2018-02-18T04:39:51 < Laurenceb_> stupid Polish diesel
2018-02-18T04:40:07 < Laurenceb_> I want the older one with proper Detroit Diesel
2018-02-18T04:40:55 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Powertrain_Poland  <-shitshow
2018-02-18T04:41:25 < Laurenceb_> Circle L is fail
2018-02-18T04:42:21 < Laurenceb_> 60% of the components for the production of the engines at Izuzu Motor Polska come from Germany
2018-02-18T04:42:24 < Laurenceb_> GERM-man
2018-02-18T04:43:18 < upgrdman> hmm corsa looks ugly
2018-02-18T04:43:26 < upgrdman> is that a typical cheap euro car?
2018-02-18T04:43:49 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-18T04:44:14 < Laurenceb_> its pretty sweet, 70mpg under good conditions
2018-02-18T04:44:31 < Laurenceb_> cost me £200
2018-02-18T04:44:39 < upgrdman> typical eurofag. more concerned about efficiency than comfort
2018-02-18T04:45:17 < upgrdman> i take it you didnt get rich off of that horse anus telemetry project?
2018-02-18T04:45:26 < Laurenceb_> nope
2018-02-18T04:45:38 < Laurenceb_> Bugatti Veyron gets same speed on typical UK road
2018-02-18T04:45:51 < upgrdman> lol
2018-02-18T04:47:20 < Laurenceb_> almost everything on the accessory belt has its own oil supply, and some of the bearing are leaking
2018-02-18T04:47:38  * Laurenceb_ is taking the tray under car and can of top up oil approach
2018-02-18T04:53:53 < Laurenceb_> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2424/5845522773_fd411d4048_o.jpg
2018-02-18T04:53:58 < Laurenceb_> thats the shit right there
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2018-02-18T04:54:29 < dongs> that looks better than most american shitcars
2018-02-18T04:54:36 < dongs> i hate how almsot all american shit is ugly and round
2018-02-18T04:55:10 < BrainDamage> that's an old model
2018-02-18T04:55:21 < BrainDamage> 80s to 90s
2018-02-18T04:55:37 < BrainDamage> it's really all new cars that are rounded
2018-02-18T04:56:20 < Laurenceb_> attn stvn: https://www.rt.com/news/418921-australia-ban-sex-ministers/
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2018-02-18T05:06:48 < upgrdman> lol
2018-02-18T05:07:08 < stvn> lol
2018-02-18T05:07:09 < upgrdman> wuts the point of banning that sex. easier to, uh, "fire" if they get caught?
2018-02-18T05:10:10 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1249ffc0/86246.png
2018-02-18T05:10:12 < branjb> what's wrong with dipping the pen in company ink?
2018-02-18T05:10:23 < stvn> hi englishman
2018-02-18T05:14:13 < Laurenceb_> http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/2014/11/does-randi-harper-freebsd-have-a-criminal-record.html
2018-02-18T05:14:22 < Laurenceb_> >when someone suggests using FreeBSD
2018-02-18T05:14:26 < Rob235> https://youtu.be/-7MVUteFzBo
2018-02-18T05:14:27 < Rob235> :O
2018-02-18T05:15:08 < branjb> freebsd is still a thing?
2018-02-18T05:16:23 < BrainDamage> are those bubbles on the sticker?
2018-02-18T05:17:26 < dongs> branjb: no hes linking to a post from 2014
2018-02-18T05:17:41 < Laurenceb_> >the last time FreeBSD was relevant
2018-02-18T05:18:18 < dongs> it wasnt relevant way longer than taht
2018-02-18T05:18:32 < stvn> blast it with piss
2018-02-18T05:34:35 < dongs> freebsdpiss
2018-02-18T05:36:48 < dongs> i gotta admit tho as far as *BSD's go, freebsd is about as dead as it gets
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2018-02-18T05:38:42 < dongs> https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=linux,freebsd,openbsd,ubuntu
2018-02-18T05:39:47 < dongs> https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=freebsd,openbsd,gamergate
2018-02-18T05:40:29 < dongs> https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=freebsd,freebsdgirl,gamergate
2018-02-18T05:40:33 < dongs> haha
2018-02-18T05:40:41 < Cracki> gah that freak
2018-02-18T05:40:43 < dongs> nobody even heard of freebsdgirl until gamergayte
2018-02-18T05:40:49 < Cracki> ^
2018-02-18T05:41:02 < Laurenceb_> ha my sides
2018-02-18T05:41:05 < Laurenceb_> brilliant
2018-02-18T05:42:01 < Cracki> I see 0 or <1 for the grrrl
2018-02-18T05:42:46 < Cracki> ah, peak around nov 2014
2018-02-18T05:43:12 < Cracki> (viewed separately)
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2018-02-18T05:51:56 < jadew> what's interesting is that there are places on earth where nobody searched for it
2018-02-18T05:52:59 < jadew> probably also a good map for where to never go
2018-02-18T05:53:33 < stvn> lol
2018-02-18T05:54:03 < stvn> worth a try
2018-02-18T05:58:32 < jadew> also interesting that for "freebsd", russia, china and... ucraine are all in the same ballpark
2018-02-18T05:58:52 < jadew> while everyone else is in a different category
2018-02-18T06:01:13 < jadew> africa seems to lack interest for any of it, despite having 1/6 of the world's population
2018-02-18T06:01:44 < jadew> makes you wonder what they're up to
2018-02-18T06:02:52 < jadew> what are they preocupied with?
2018-02-18T06:03:34 < jadew> maybe it's because they all moved to germany
2018-02-18T06:07:00 < jadew> I'm gonna get a CR-10S for my birthday
2018-02-18T06:07:17 < jadew> Steffanx, what accessories should I get?
2018-02-18T06:08:53 < stvn> gas mask
2018-02-18T06:08:59 < jadew> I'm reorganizing my lab once again because of it
2018-02-18T06:09:07 < jadew> stvn, planning to build an enclosure
2018-02-18T06:09:18 < jadew> and a fume extractor
2018-02-18T06:10:44 < stvn> what will you print?
2018-02-18T06:11:11 < jadew> stuff...
2018-02-18T06:11:17 < jadew> for one, I will print a fume extractor
2018-02-18T06:11:52 < jadew> I also want to print some feets for some test intruments that are missing them
2018-02-18T06:13:12 < stvn> print a 3d dildo
2018-02-18T06:13:36 < stvn> send it to a random stm32 chatter
2018-02-18T06:13:39 < jadew> it's probably cheaper to buy one
2018-02-18T06:14:19 < stvn> true
2018-02-18T06:20:14 < Rob235> whats the print area for a cr10
2018-02-18T06:20:58 < Rob235> my test print is still going.  I thought it was a small cube, turned out to be a box
2018-02-18T06:21:25 < Rob235> who would of thought... it was only called box...
2018-02-18T06:21:28 < jadew> Rob235, 300x300x400
2018-02-18T06:21:36 < Rob235> really? nice
2018-02-18T06:21:47 < Rob235> I thought it was smaller, is the S a bigger version?
2018-02-18T06:22:03 < jadew> no, I think CR-10 and CR-10S are exactly the same
2018-02-18T06:22:08 < Rob235> ahh
2018-02-18T06:22:17 < jadew> with the CR-10S having only two extra things
2018-02-18T06:22:22 < Rob235> I believe mine is 220x220x270 or something like that
2018-02-18T06:22:28 < Rob235> what two things
2018-02-18T06:22:42 < jadew> an extra Z-axis motor and a ran out of filament detector
2018-02-18T06:22:51 < jadew> which printer do you have?
2018-02-18T06:22:54 < Rob235> ahh thats helpful
2018-02-18T06:22:59 < dongs> lol 3d dicker talk
2018-02-18T06:22:59 < Rob235> anet a6.  just built it today
2018-02-18T06:23:08 < Rob235> $190 shipped
2018-02-18T06:23:26 < jadew> dongs, what printer do you have?
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2018-02-18T07:10:38 < stvn> lol
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2018-02-18T07:45:56 < jadew> ok, I'm having second thoughts about the CR-10
2018-02-18T07:46:12 < jadew> read about the bed leveling issues
2018-02-18T07:46:24 < jadew> the low heat issue
2018-02-18T07:46:31 < jadew> the noise
2018-02-18T07:46:32 < jadew> :/
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2018-02-18T07:46:58 < stvn> they're all shit
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2018-02-18T07:47:55 < jadew> would the prusa mk2s be a good choice?
2018-02-18T07:48:09 < stvn> THREADRIPPER
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2018-02-18T07:59:40 < dongs> any 3d dicker with a retarduino in it can basically fuck off
2018-02-18T08:02:36 < jadew> are both arduino based?
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2018-02-18T08:22:46 < jpa-> do smd trimmer resistors with logarithmic sweep exist?
2018-02-18T08:24:02 < dongs> you lost me at logirathmic sweep
2018-02-18T08:24:07 < dongs> is that the ones that are not linear?
2018-02-18T08:24:11 < jpa-> yeah
2018-02-18T08:24:15 < jpa-> audio type
2018-02-18T08:24:19 < dongs> like the sweep thing gets wider or something at one end?
2018-02-18T08:25:09 < jpa-> yeah
2018-02-18T08:27:28 < dongs> its called taper?
2018-02-18T08:28:09 < dongs> anyway mouser shows like 8
2018-02-18T08:28:12 < dongs> but they're all weird type
2018-02-18T08:28:14 < dongs> flat with a wheel
2018-02-18T08:28:31 < dongs> not liek a trimpot thing
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2018-02-18T08:32:46 < jpa-> dongs: can you link to one?
2018-02-18T08:33:38 < jpa-> ah found it
2018-02-18T08:34:04 < dongs> https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ALPS/RK10J11R001Y?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtC25l1F4XBU3JeeCo7XMTlqApsFW8oMvA%3d
2018-02-18T08:34:07 < dongs> this kinda shit
2018-02-18T08:34:39 < jpa-> that's actually worth considering
2018-02-18T08:35:08 < dongs> are you gonna have it stick out of the case somewhere?
2018-02-18T08:36:13 < jpa-> yeah, it would work mechanically quite ok
2018-02-18T08:36:44 < jpa-> huh their datasheet is html, not pdf
2018-02-18T08:41:13 < stvn> i like it
2018-02-18T08:41:52 < stvn> expensive though
2018-02-18T08:42:09 < jpa-> yeah; 10x more than linear trimmer
2018-02-18T08:42:31 < jpa-> maybe not worth it, audio taper is more like a convenience than necessity
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2018-02-18T10:24:57 < dongs> https://gfycat.com/generousajaraustralianfurseal
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2018-02-18T11:37:18 < stvn> hi
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2018-02-18T11:52:47 < dongs> stvn, are you gasy?
2018-02-18T11:52:49 < dongs> err
2018-02-18T11:52:53 < dongs> gay
2018-02-18T11:52:56 < dongs> are you a nigger?
2018-02-18T11:52:59 < dongs> are you a gay nigger?
2018-02-18T11:53:34 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electronics/help-with-assembling-custom/
2018-02-18T11:53:35 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-18T11:54:22 < stvn> i'll always be a fucking gay nigger
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2018-02-18T13:20:46 < kakimir> hello sons
2018-02-18T13:31:50 < stvn> kakimir, are you gay?
2018-02-18T13:32:14 < kakimir> sorry, I'm not
2018-02-18T13:47:36 < PaulFertser> kakimir is sorry he is not gay, heh. As if being gay is beneficial.
2018-02-18T13:50:41 < zyp> PaulFertser, if you're male and have a boyfriend, I'm pretty sure it is
2018-02-18T13:51:01 < kakimir> no I just mean that if someone is like bicurrious I just try to say I'm off the limits
2018-02-18T13:51:40 < PaulFertser> zyp: isn't being non-gay and having a boyfriend mutually exclusive?
2018-02-18T13:53:29 < kakimir> if balls don't touch it's not gay
2018-02-18T13:54:31 < PaulFertser> 69
2018-02-18T13:55:49 < PaulFertser> stvn, bro, what's your opinion ^^ ?
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2018-02-18T14:17:09 < zyp> PaulFertser, I don't know, I've never tried
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2018-02-18T14:48:31 < dongs> all the important STM32 questions being answered
2018-02-18T14:52:23 < Steffanx> We're all into dongs right? > gay.
2018-02-18T14:56:45 < Steffanx> not sure, it comes with pretty much everything to get started
2018-02-18T14:56:58 < Steffanx> @ mr jadew
2018-02-18T15:00:04 < dongs> zyp, how hard is it to do USB host that would support one particular device
2018-02-18T15:00:05 < dongs> on STM
2018-02-18T15:00:12 < dongs> a custom thing, not a standard class
2018-02-18T15:00:21 < dongs> control pipe and a streaming pipe (bulk)
2018-02-18T15:01:09 < zyp> I've never tried, but I don't imagine it's too hard
2018-02-18T15:01:57 < zyp> if you already got a host stack to use, it should be an easy job
2018-02-18T15:02:47 < zyp> once you've established a host-device relationship, interfacing with stuff like bulk pipes should be very similar
2018-02-18T15:03:17 < dongs> yeah dont have anything
2018-02-18T15:03:23 < dongs> i guess usb-fs lib from ST would do the trick
2018-02-18T15:03:30 < dongs> or maybe keil USB is less aids
2018-02-18T15:03:54 < dongs> yeah it has custom device class host
2018-02-18T15:03:58 < dongs> maybe ill jsut fuck aroudn wiht that later.
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2018-02-18T15:53:11 < invzim> dongs: the switchmode dc-dc thingie, SY8088AAC, did you check noise on output?
2018-02-18T15:54:18 < dongs> no, we use it in a bunch of places with digital stuff and it works fine
2018-02-18T15:54:37 < dongs> was it awful or something?
2018-02-18T15:54:52 < dongs> i dont recall it being any worse than a typical switcher. im sure some jew in here did the measurements.
2018-02-18T15:56:21 < invzim> parts still in transit, ordered a couple of pin compatible brand name parts too
2018-02-18T15:56:27 < invzim> never done switch mode bofre
2018-02-18T15:56:41 < dongs> it will be fine
2018-02-18T15:57:22 < invzim> Just doing a bit of research to see if I can blindly regard it as a drop-in for 1117
2018-02-18T15:57:33 < dongs> just put some 22uF caps on the end and yesw
2018-02-18T15:57:36 < dongs> close enough
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2018-02-18T15:57:40 < invzim> doing anything particular layout wise?
2018-02-18T15:57:46 < dongs> nope just common sense
2018-02-18T15:57:55 < invzim> common sense is not very common :)
2018-02-18T15:58:13 < zyp> routing switchers are easy, just keep high current path as short as possible
2018-02-18T15:58:19 < zyp> i.e. the switching loops
2018-02-18T15:58:26 < invzim> yah, got some 22uf's 1206
2018-02-18T15:58:35 < dongs> usually the pin layout makes it easy enough anyway
2018-02-18T15:58:38 < invzim> zyp: common gnd plane with rest of circuit?
2018-02-18T15:58:39 < dongs> so you cant fuck it up
2018-02-18T15:58:55 < zyp> sure
2018-02-18T15:59:26 < zyp> split ground planes tend to make more harm than good unless you know what you're doing
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2018-02-18T16:23:32 < Lux> dongs: what kind of inductor are you using with that SY8088AAC dc-dc ?
2018-02-18T16:26:25 < dongs> SWPA3010-2.2uh
2018-02-18T16:26:41 < dongs> or bigger one if need more current
2018-02-18T16:29:34 < Lux> thanks
2018-02-18T16:30:31 < dongs> used to use VLF3010 until that ran out of stock
2018-02-18T16:30:40 < dongs> anyway, swpa is better cuz its more standard pinout
2018-02-18T16:30:54 < dongs> and its clones of taiyo juden or wahtever stuff in same footprint
2018-02-18T16:31:28 < Lux> yeah, that package seems pretty common
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2018-02-18T16:42:12 < dongs> hm
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2018-02-18T16:57:27 < jadew> Steffanx, thanks, I'm having second thoughts because of https://www.thingiverse.com/groups/creality-cr-10/forums/general/topic:25360
2018-02-18T16:57:43 < jadew> zyp, you said you have the prusa mk2?
2018-02-18T16:58:33 < zyp> no, but several of my friends do
2018-02-18T16:59:08 < jadew> any complaints?
2018-02-18T16:59:12 < jadew> I'm leaning towards that one now
2018-02-18T16:59:21 < zyp> mk2s or mk3?
2018-02-18T16:59:28 < jadew> I have to make up my mind by tomorrow
2018-02-18T16:59:30 < jadew> the mk2s
2018-02-18T16:59:44 < zyp> seems decent
2018-02-18T17:00:14 < zyp> one of my friends got a mk3 recently, apparently he's been having some problems getting it tuned right
2018-02-18T17:00:34 < jadew> read some complaints about the mk3 too
2018-02-18T17:01:03 < jadew> but the mk2s seems to have no bad reviews
2018-02-18T17:01:13 < zyp> I haven't heard anything bad either
2018-02-18T17:02:30 < jadew> the build dimensions aren't as good as the CR-10, but I don't think I'll be printing stuff that big anyway
2018-02-18T17:04:18 < jadew> zyp, which one do you have again?
2018-02-18T17:05:37 < zyp> some hacked up shit
2018-02-18T17:05:52 < jadew> I don't want to spend too much time on the printer tbh
2018-02-18T17:05:57 < jadew> I already have a lot of crap on my plate
2018-02-18T17:06:11 < jadew> all I want to do is print stuff when I need it
2018-02-18T17:06:53 < zyp> I started out with a kit from the sumpod indiegogo campaign, but then I got a e3d titan and e3d v6 on it instead of the shit that came with the kit
2018-02-18T17:07:18 < jadew> zyp, apparently that's required on the CR-10 too
2018-02-18T17:07:35 < branjb> jadew no such thing, all printers require tweaking
2018-02-18T17:07:57 < jadew> branjb, ok, I can live with that, what I'm trying to avoid is dedicating days or weeks to it
2018-02-18T17:08:11 < jadew> I'll give it 2-3 hours tops
2018-02-18T17:08:16 < branjb> a day?
2018-02-18T17:08:17 < branjb> or ever?
2018-02-18T17:08:18 < jadew> (after it's mounted)
2018-02-18T17:08:21 < jadew> EVER
2018-02-18T17:08:46 < jadew> if it requires more than that to simply work, then it's going to be hard for me to enjoy it
2018-02-18T17:08:56 < branjb> idk how realistic that is
2018-02-18T17:09:11 < branjb> things like nozzle clogs happen, and you have to take apart the extruder to clear it
2018-02-18T17:09:18 < jadew> well.. whatever calibration + some small prints to tweak settings up
2018-02-18T17:09:18 < branjb> can take 30 - 60 min
2018-02-18T17:09:21 < jadew> how long could that take?
2018-02-18T17:09:51 < branjb> it's rare but i've had to do it 3-4 times in 2 years
2018-02-18T17:10:01 < jadew> branjb, I'm fine with stuff that are considered normal at this point in time for a 3d printer
2018-02-18T17:10:06 < branjb> ok
2018-02-18T17:10:34 < jadew> I just don't want to spend too much of my time fixing various flaws
2018-02-18T17:10:39 < zyp> eh, if you got a rubber boot, shit shouldn't stick that bad to the nozzle
2018-02-18T17:10:49 < branjb> don't worry so much about build dimensions either, the bigger the object, the more perfect all your parametizers have to be.  big prints usually turn out poor
2018-02-18T17:11:18 < jadew> branjb, yeah, I don't think I'll need many big prints
2018-02-18T17:11:27 < jadew> the biggest things I'll build will be enclosures
2018-02-18T17:11:49 < branjb> imo 3D printer shines for small, awkward, impossible to machine or make well with other tools.  big parts there are better materials and processes
2018-02-18T17:11:50 < jadew> or maybe a front panel
2018-02-18T17:12:02 < jadew> yeah, I think you're right
2018-02-18T17:12:04 < branjb> yeah
2018-02-18T17:12:13 < branjb> that's what I use mine for mostly, brackets, enclosures, and panels
2018-02-18T17:13:01 < jadew> branjb, which one do you have?
2018-02-18T17:13:47 < branjb> prusa i3 and makerbot replicator
2018-02-18T17:14:18 < jadew> would you recommend the prusa?
2018-02-18T17:14:21 < jadew> superbia, IRC
2018-02-18T17:14:22 < branjb> originally bought the makerbot replicator, bought the prusa i3 for simplification.
2018-02-18T17:14:27 < branjb> yeah I would recommend the prusa way more
2018-02-18T17:14:37 < branjb> go single nozzle, double nozzle has a lot of negatives
2018-02-18T17:15:18 < jadew> superbia, heh, I had a chat at a social event with a programming team from emag and they were surprised when I mentioned IRC
2018-02-18T17:15:46 < jadew> branjb, thanks for the tip
2018-02-18T17:16:02 < branjb> jadew I would go with something like https://www.amazon.com/Auto-Levelling-Anet-Included-Filament/dp/B07237ZYGK/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1518966930&sr=8-20&keywords=prusa+i3 that has auto leveling in a prusa i3 style
2018-02-18T17:16:36 < jadew> branjb, that's a prusa clone?
2018-02-18T17:16:39 < branjb> it's probably the most popular style, because it works extremely well, is cheap, and is simple
2018-02-18T17:16:42 < branjb> yeah
2018-02-18T17:16:47 < branjb> you can get a clone or the real thing
2018-02-18T17:16:48 < Steffanx> i bet you can find a similar story about any low budget printer
2018-02-18T17:16:50 < dongs> haha.
2018-02-18T17:16:54 < dongs> all that shit looks unstable as fuck
2018-02-18T17:17:03 < dongs> enjoy garbage prints
2018-02-18T17:17:06 < dongs> oh, t he price
2018-02-18T17:17:07 < dongs> k
2018-02-18T17:17:22 < jadew> dongs, any recommendations?
2018-02-18T17:17:25 < dongs> no
2018-02-18T17:17:28 < Steffanx> mr jadew, it's a budget printer, why do you expect?
2018-02-18T17:17:28 < jadew> my budget is something like 600 eur
2018-02-18T17:17:52 < jadew> Steffanx, which one? the CR-10?
2018-02-18T17:17:56 < Steffanx> yes
2018-02-18T17:17:58 < Steffanx> jadew
2018-02-18T17:18:15 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, you're right, but it scares me off a little
2018-02-18T17:18:20 < Steffanx> jadew:  and i have the 10, not the 10s. Mine didnt even have the auto bed levelling
2018-02-18T17:18:26 < jadew> also, the original prusa seems to be in the ballpark
2018-02-18T17:18:38 < jadew> wait, the 10s has auto bed leveling?
2018-02-18T17:18:50 < Steffanx> idk, 10 doesnt at least
2018-02-18T17:19:03 < jadew> as far as I could tell, the 10s doesn't either
2018-02-18T17:19:09 < Steffanx> jadew: atm i have terrible issues with it though, but that looks like a firmware issue, currently in the process of updating it.
2018-02-18T17:19:11 < jadew> and everyone says it's a PITA
2018-02-18T17:20:11 < branjb> auto leveling is worth getting, having a level build plate is one of the main things that affect a good print and it's a PITA to manually level every print
2018-02-18T17:20:16 < Steffanx> "bed leveling is far from automatic, you need to do manual adjusting each time you change the temperature"... that's kinda unfair imho.
2018-02-18T17:20:43 < Steffanx> a sensor cannot easily compensate for that
2018-02-18T17:21:37 < Steffanx> "adjusting is not easy at all can not reach fucking screws hiden below the bed", that's why you have the auto-levelling -_-
2018-02-18T17:22:09 < Steffanx> i just compensate for temperature a bit in sw. no need to adjust the entire bed all the time.
2018-02-18T17:22:28 < jadew> so you know the coefficients?
2018-02-18T17:22:43 < Steffanx> i dont, i just do a test.
2018-02-18T17:22:55 < Rob235> http://www.banggood.com/LJ18A3-8-ZBX-M18-Proximity-Sensor-6-36VDC-8mm-Detective-Approach-Sensor-Inductive-Proximity-Switch-p-1189471.html?rmmds=cart_middle_products
2018-02-18T17:22:58 < Rob235> I want to add that to my printer
2018-02-18T17:23:35 < Steffanx> do it :)
2018-02-18T17:23:45 < Rob235> took like 30 min to level the bed
2018-02-18T17:23:45 < jadew> Rob235, which one do you have?
2018-02-18T17:23:50 < Rob235> anet A6
2018-02-18T17:23:56 < Steffanx> jadew the noise issue is valid one though.
2018-02-18T17:26:52 < Rob235> The tape that came on the bed is too strong, I can't get the print off :/
2018-02-18T17:27:12 < Rob235> I need to get a plastic spatula, I dont want to scratch the aluminum bed
2018-02-18T17:27:50 < Steffanx> Add a glass plate. much harder to scratch
2018-02-18T17:28:00 < Steffanx> or ikea mirror :)
2018-02-18T17:28:14 < Steffanx> 2 for Rob235, 2 for his gf
2018-02-18T17:29:02 < Rob235> 2 what?
2018-02-18T17:29:07 < PaulFertser> Rob235: hm, are you sure that tape on the bed was not supposed to be ripped off before first use?
2018-02-18T17:29:24 < Rob235> PaulFertser: pretty sure
2018-02-18T17:29:25 < PaulFertser> Rob235: the suitable ikea mirrors come in a pack of 4.
2018-02-18T17:29:30 < Rob235> ahh
2018-02-18T17:32:11 < jadew> superbia, do you have a printer?
2018-02-18T17:32:25 < Steffanx> *3d printer
2018-02-18T17:32:32 < jadew> that
2018-02-18T17:32:44 < Steffanx> poor superbia :(
2018-02-18T17:32:57 < Steffanx> can i donate some euros?
2018-02-18T17:33:00 < jadew> what do you do for a living?
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2018-02-18T17:33:29 < jadew> not sure what that is
2018-02-18T17:33:53 < dongs> hack and steal
2018-02-18T17:34:08 < BrainDamage> steal railroad copper
2018-02-18T17:34:11 < jadew> ah, right
2018-02-18T17:34:20 < Steffanx> romanian are known skimmers too
2018-02-18T17:34:51 < Steffanx> but that's part of the "steal"-caterogy
2018-02-18T17:34:53 < Steffanx> category
2018-02-18T17:35:24 < jadew> superbia?
2018-02-18T17:35:37 < jadew> is it a secret?
2018-02-18T17:36:07 < dongs> ill admit. my real job is holding dicks. and im prety good at it
2018-02-18T17:36:08 < jadew> I don't think that's what racism is
2018-02-18T17:36:44 < Steffanx> lol so serious superbia?
2018-02-18T17:38:15 < Steffanx> Get to visit spain often?
2018-02-18T17:38:35 < jadew> still, what do you do? are you a programmer, ee, toilet guy?
2018-02-18T17:38:47 < jadew> (trying to figure out how much you earn)
2018-02-18T17:38:53 < dongs> why do you care so much judew
2018-02-18T17:38:54 < jadew> unless you want to tell us directly
2018-02-18T17:39:01 < jadew> dongs, he's romanian
2018-02-18T17:39:01 < dongs> JUDEw
2018-02-18T17:39:07 < dongs> and not poor?
2018-02-18T17:39:10 < dongs> and this pisses you off?
2018-02-18T17:39:14 < jadew> I don't think he is, yes
2018-02-18T17:39:19 < jadew> no, it doesn't
2018-02-18T17:39:25 < dongs> i think the racist here is YOU
2018-02-18T17:39:26 < dongs> :)
2018-02-18T17:39:33 < jadew> hah
2018-02-18T17:40:36 < jadew> I think he's more secretive than I am
2018-02-18T17:41:41 < jadew> he's probably thinking right now that he already said too much
2018-02-18T17:44:29 < markus-k> has anyone used any good mqtt libraries on stm32 mcus? I tried eclipse paho and wolfmqtt and already failed at compiling them :(
2018-02-18T17:45:30 < dongs> mqtt sounds like something that was originated by faggots who write javascropt "code"
2018-02-18T17:45:45 < dongs> most normal people here have used nanopb
2018-02-18T17:46:26 < markus-k> it's not *that* bad..
2018-02-18T17:46:35 < Steffanx> i didnt use it myself, but some some intern at work got paho working pretty quickly. He just imported the C file into his project afiak.
2018-02-18T17:46:36 < markus-k> at least it's not based on http
2018-02-18T17:46:49 < Steffanx> *C/H files
2018-02-18T17:47:21 < markus-k> hm, didn't think about that, probably the most straight forward way
2018-02-18T17:47:47 < Rob235> is it easier to get a PLA print off the bed when its cold or warm?
2018-02-18T17:48:02 < Steffanx> He did fail compiling the windows/lunix examples, so just copied the neccessary files and did it on stm32.
2018-02-18T17:48:16 < Steffanx> cold.
2018-02-18T17:48:21 < jadew> Rob235, I'd expect cold, because when it gets cold it should break free from the bed
2018-02-18T17:48:21 < Rob235> ok
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2018-02-18T17:49:24 < Steffanx> but that is annoying when you want to print something else after it completed
2018-02-18T17:49:35 < Rob235> I found some blue painters tape. Its thin but I'll just take my time lining it up. gotta get this hercules gripped tape off this bed
2018-02-18T17:50:17 < Rob235> I heard thats what is good about a glass plate, or anything you put on top, you can get a second one and let the first one cool off the bed while you start a new one
2018-02-18T17:50:22 < Rob235> may have to do that
2018-02-18T17:52:04 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: that's why one might need several mirrors
2018-02-18T17:52:30 < Steffanx> nah, i just remove the part from the bed usually.
2018-02-18T17:52:42 < Steffanx> requires some semi-brute force sometimes
2018-02-18T17:55:11 < dongs> so nxp has a longevity page, says i.mx233 launched aug 2009, has a 10-year checkbox for it
2018-02-18T17:55:16 < dongs> does that mean they're gonna EOL it in 2019?
2018-02-18T17:56:05 < Rob235> is there a temperature limit for painters tape on a heated bed?
2018-02-18T17:58:06 < jadew> Steffanx, you said you added auto bed leveling? what did that entail?
2018-02-18T17:58:18 < jadew> money wise too
2018-02-18T17:58:37 < jadew> about the noise issue, I found a video detailing what to do to make it quieter
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2018-02-18T17:58:45 < jadew> if you want to, I can look it up
2018-02-18T17:59:02 < Sagiftw> Hello. Does anyone here has experience with STM32H7_EVAL?
2018-02-18T17:59:06 < Steffanx> waaay too much jadew: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CREALITY-CR-10-S4-S5-mini-AUTO-BED-LEVELLING-KIT-melzi-board-/192431496812
2018-02-18T17:59:19 < dongs> STM32H7_EVAL sounds expensive
2018-02-18T17:59:37 < Sagiftw> I paid almost 500$ for it and can't run the demo :(
2018-02-18T18:00:23 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, that's why I thought I'd just get a prusa - adding all the extras will run the final price up at least 100 more euros
2018-02-18T18:00:51 < Steffanx> but my cr-10 was like 300euro iirc. not 500 like the 10s
2018-02-18T18:01:14 < jadew> yeah, but I understand the extra z-axis motor helps with the prints
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2018-02-18T18:01:50 < Steffanx> and i like to mess around with it. otherwise i would have something that just works as well
2018-02-18T18:02:54 < jadew> yeah, I get it
2018-02-18T18:03:31 < Steffanx> *would have bought
2018-02-18T18:06:58 < markus-k> oh, while youre on the topic of 3d printing: I was thinking about getting a prusa i3 pro b from geeetech as a kit, good/bad idea?
2018-02-18T18:08:16 < Steffanx> idk, no experience with e,
2018-02-18T18:08:18 < Steffanx> m
2018-02-18T18:10:23 < Steffanx> you scared him away jadew :P
2018-02-18T18:11:28 < jadew> yeah...
2018-02-18T18:13:25 < dongs> good job
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2018-02-18T18:28:37 < Sagiftw> Hello. Does anyone here has experience with STM32H7_EVAL?
2018-02-18T18:29:14 < branjb> Rob235: you should try out https://www.amazon.com/Gizmo-Dorks-Sheet-Printer-Surface/dp/B074XG1NDM/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1518971347&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=pei+sheet&psc=1
2018-02-18T18:29:45 < Rob235> yea ive heard pretty good (but some bad) things about PEI
2018-02-18T18:30:01 < Rob235> depends what you print
2018-02-18T18:30:03 < englishman> Sagiftw: probably nobody here, why dont you post about the problem you are having, whether it is with your toolchain or uploading or whatever
2018-02-18T18:30:48 < branjb> PEI is great for PETG, pretty much all I print with anymore
2018-02-18T18:31:04 < englishman> pei did not work at all for me with petg lol
2018-02-18T18:31:09 < englishman> went back to kapton for that
2018-02-18T18:31:14 < branjb> weird
2018-02-18T18:31:14 < englishman> abs was good with pei tho
2018-02-18T18:31:17 < branjb> yeah
2018-02-18T18:31:22 < branjb> what temp did you use for bed and petg?
2018-02-18T18:31:26 < englishman> 100c
2018-02-18T18:31:27 < branjb> I have to use ~100C
2018-02-18T18:31:28 < branjb> weird
2018-02-18T18:32:00 < Sagiftw> I'm trying to run the demonstration program (which plays video from inserted SD card), and can't seem to run it after programming.
2018-02-18T18:33:06 < branjb> I printed this with petg on PEI: https://imgur.com/a/Em1KZ
2018-02-18T18:33:09 < branjb> came out great
2018-02-18T18:38:41 < zyp> nice
2018-02-18T18:38:59 < Steffanx> englishman: does 3d printers?!
2018-02-18T18:39:11 < sync> yes
2018-02-18T18:39:15 < zyp> PEI seems like the shit overall
2018-02-18T18:39:32 < zyp> I've heard the disadvantage with PETG on PEI is that it tends to stick too well
2018-02-18T18:39:48 < Laurenceb_> woah
2018-02-18T18:40:00 < Laurenceb_> newest gpsd sort of works
2018-02-18T18:40:11 < Laurenceb_> ESR delivers, eventually
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2018-02-18T18:41:21 < Laurenceb_> <Steffanx> romanian are known skimmers too
2018-02-18T18:41:23 < Rob235> Ive heard petg and pla both work pretty well with painters tape. seems like the cheap stuff is usually the best option
2018-02-18T18:41:35 < Laurenceb_> the Romanians here are epin thieves
2018-02-18T18:42:05 < Laurenceb_> somehow they stole 5km of 400kV underground 3 phase cable that was buried 10m underground
2018-02-18T18:42:07 < Rob235> those are the two I plan on printing with
2018-02-18T18:42:07 < Laurenceb_> like wtf
2018-02-18T18:42:22 < Laurenceb_> they deserved it if they managed that one
2018-02-18T18:42:30 < Laurenceb_> why not just rob a bank vault
2018-02-18T18:43:52 < Laurenceb_> inb4 it was jadew secret project
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2018-02-18T18:47:32 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb_: esr is not really involved since about he got into ntpsec.
2018-02-18T18:47:40 < Rob235> I saw someone mount their printer on a ceramic tile, any thoughts?
2018-02-18T18:48:08 < Laurenceb_> >explaining why it works now
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2018-02-18T18:52:27 < englishman> Steffanx: sure, since like 2011?
2018-02-18T18:55:57 < Laurenceb_> the current year
2018-02-18T18:56:30 < Laurenceb_> bigoted and racist printers without automated bed levelling, they are the reason for Trump
2018-02-18T18:56:49 < Laurenceb_> that and the leader of the alt-right, Bernie Sanders
2018-02-18T18:58:05 < branjb> Laurenceb_: https://imgur.com/a/G3f5G
2018-02-18T18:59:36 < Laurenceb_> UK sucks
2018-02-18T18:59:52 < branjb> do they still have acid attacks or was that just a phase?
2018-02-18T18:59:59 < Laurenceb_> no opportunity for olympic school shooting gold
2018-02-18T19:00:15 < Laurenceb_> I think its alkaline attacks now
2018-02-18T19:00:38 < Laurenceb_> I'm old enough to remember ph neutral attacks
2018-02-18T19:00:47 < Laurenceb_> but we called them water fights
2018-02-18T19:19:23 < Laurenceb_> >bigoted acid attacks
2018-02-18T19:19:32 < Laurenceb_> >progressive alkaline attacks
2018-02-18T19:20:21 < Laurenceb_> >radical centrists ph neutral attack
2018-02-18T19:29:52 < BrainDamage> Laurenceb_: https://ptpb.pw/ZlUa
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2018-02-18T19:56:33 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozart_effect
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2018-02-18T20:08:47 < jadew> how are these shelves called? https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kji9O412jnM/UVBTL24YmLI/AAAAAAAACPY/oP2nKWpusJk/s320/003+dressing+fier+DSC02825.JPG
2018-02-18T20:09:15 < jadew> I mean what's the search term?
2018-02-18T20:10:30 < Laurenceb_> cheese pizza
2018-02-18T20:17:15 < Steffanx> heh no clue what day are called, but every random diy store has them in dutchland, jadew
2018-02-18T20:17:24 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1249ffc0/86403.png
2018-02-18T20:17:29 < Laurenceb_> meanwhile in UK
2018-02-18T20:17:54 < jadew> Steffanx, thanks, I think the rails are just called shelf rails
2018-02-18T20:18:18 < Laurenceb_> its shop stuff, ask someone who works in a shop :P
2018-02-18T20:18:54 < Steffanx> says the one who pays 4chan/reddit stuff in ##stn32
2018-02-18T20:19:04 < Laurenceb_> pays?
2018-02-18T20:19:05 < Steffanx> *stm32
2018-02-18T20:19:11 < Steffanx> pasts
2018-02-18T20:19:13 < Steffanx> whatever. lol
2018-02-18T20:19:14 < Laurenceb_> I dont even have a 4chan gold account
2018-02-18T20:19:31 < Steffanx> jadew, the double version of that seems to be called shelf track.
2018-02-18T20:20:17 < Laurenceb_> sometimes I cant view images and it really annoys me
2018-02-18T20:20:26 < Laurenceb_> I'm saving up for a gold account
2018-02-18T20:20:32 < Steffanx> got no munny to pay?
2018-02-18T20:20:40 < Laurenceb_> good plan
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2018-02-18T22:02:37 < upgrdman> jadew, "ShelfTrack" is a brand name in the USA. guessing generic name is track shelving or someshit
2018-02-18T22:02:38 < upgrdman> https://www.homedepot.com/s/shelftrack?NCNI-5
2018-02-18T22:07:11 < Steffanx> i have some shelves like that, but with the single rail one. Never fell of the wall ever.
2018-02-18T22:07:17 < Steffanx> i love it.
2018-02-18T22:07:57 < Steffanx> -with
2018-02-18T22:07:59 < zyp> I have ikea's kind, I think they call it algot
2018-02-18T22:08:14 < Steffanx> 21:15 give or take 10 minutes.
2018-02-18T22:09:50  * Laurenceb_ is crowdfunding for a 4chan gold account
2018-02-18T22:10:25 < Steffanx> if that means you wont post crap in here anymore .. then ill sponsor you Laurenceb_
2018-02-18T22:10:35 < Laurenceb_> then I will be able to access the spicey memmies
2018-02-18T22:10:44 < zyp> I think it'd just mean even more crap
2018-02-18T22:11:03 < Steffanx> but the deal is .. no crap or instant ban, zyp.
2018-02-18T22:11:27 < Steffanx> sadly the entire gold crap is one huge troll.
2018-02-18T22:11:58 < Laurenceb_> we know gold account is real
2018-02-18T22:12:16 < Steffanx> we? as in queen blaxter?
2018-02-18T22:12:38 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-18T22:20:42 < Laurenceb_> 8chan is the shit
2018-02-18T22:20:52  * Laurenceb_ is b& from 4chan
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2018-02-18T22:21:49 < Steffanx> y?
2018-02-18T22:21:55 < Steffanx> no, i dont want to know.
2018-02-18T22:21:58 < Laurenceb_> kittenposting
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2018-02-18T22:24:51 < Laurenceb_> luckily I avoided getting v&
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2018-02-18T23:22:42 < Steffanx> https://imgur.com/a/3uHsA that's what it looks like atm jadew. Cable mess, but it works :P
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2018-02-18T23:25:29 < jadew> Steffanx & upgrdman, thanks for the shelftrack
2018-02-18T23:25:47 < jadew> Steffanx, looks funky
2018-02-18T23:25:50 < Steffanx> Anyway guessing what im printing gets a free pack of waffles :P
2018-02-18T23:25:53 < jadew> and that print looks really good
2018-02-18T23:26:11 < jadew> an enclosure for something
2018-02-18T23:26:19 < Steffanx> nah, has to be more specific jadew :P
2018-02-18T23:26:43 < jadew> those screw holes...
2018-02-18T23:26:48 < Steffanx> I actually upgraded th firmware today and tightened the belts a bit. Seems to have worked well
2018-02-18T23:29:03 < Steffanx> that nozzle/extruder/heater-thing is not the original btw. It's an e3d v6, jadew
2018-02-18T23:31:49 < jadew> yeah, I remember you said you changed it
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2018-02-18T23:32:04 < jadew> do all the prints come out that nice?
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2018-02-18T23:33:14 < Steffanx> after some tweaking and fails, yes jadew.
2018-02-18T23:34:34 < Steffanx> but to be honest, im not entirely happy with it yet. Especially solid infills after non-solid/open infills arent good enough ( for me ).
2018-02-18T23:37:17 < Steffanx> i would never spend that though
2018-02-18T23:37:58 < Steffanx> sexy
2018-02-18T23:39:08 < Steffanx> Fdm much.. meh
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2018-02-18T23:40:42 < Steffanx> Shapeways aint that bad either for 1 or 2 prints
2018-02-18T23:43:04 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/29iz4E5.jpg
2018-02-18T23:43:07 < englishman> r i p bunny wabbit
2018-02-18T23:43:56 < englishman> good morning
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2018-02-19T00:16:45 < Steffanx> Awh, was it YOUR dinner englishman ?
2018-02-19T00:17:12 < Laurenceb_> https://www.rocketlabusa.com/news/updates/rocket-lab-completes-fit-check-for-nasa-vcls-elana-xix-mission/
2018-02-19T00:17:16 < Laurenceb_> thats a lotta cubesats
2018-02-19T00:17:39 < Laurenceb_> tfw there is enough money in babby shake account to pay for a rocketlab electron launch
2018-02-19T00:18:11 < Laurenceb_> I could use the remaining funds to make a mini capsule and launch myself into the moon
2018-02-19T00:18:48 < sync> shake babbys on the moon
2018-02-19T00:20:00 < Laurenceb_> >parents sign up for study
2018-02-19T00:20:02 < BrainDamage> use vibrating system as energy storage, syncronize the standing waves to have all amplitudes sum up in a single spot, get launched to the moon
2018-02-19T00:20:09 < Laurenceb_> >their babby gets fired into space instead
2018-02-19T00:20:32 < kakimir> sup babby shakers
2018-02-19T00:20:43 < Laurenceb_> I need to waste moar money on condenser microphones
2018-02-19T00:21:25 < Laurenceb_>  "luckily" we just wasted £1.1M on "consulting"
2018-02-19T00:21:45 < sync> use mlcc microphonics to microphoen
2018-02-19T00:22:28 < Laurenceb_> someone suggested I should make a micro catheter style microphone that can be stuck inside the ear
2018-02-19T00:22:35 < Laurenceb_> what could possibly go wrong
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2018-02-19T00:22:53 < Laurenceb_> I now have ethics approval to film babbies
2018-02-19T00:22:55 < Laurenceb_> like wtf
2018-02-19T00:23:08 < Laurenceb_> some bribes must have been exchanged somewhere
2018-02-19T00:23:10 < Steffanx> There are better places to stick things in right?
2018-02-19T00:23:45 < BrainDamage> wait, why would you stick a mic inside a ear
2018-02-19T00:23:57 < Laurenceb_> to see what actual audio exposure is
2018-02-19T00:24:04 < Steffanx> Lolz
2018-02-19T00:24:11 < Laurenceb_> I also have ethics to glue motion capture to babbies
2018-02-19T00:24:21 < BrainDamage> get a fucking foam head model for hrtf
2018-02-19T00:24:24 < Laurenceb_> ikr
2018-02-19T00:24:35 < Laurenceb_> everything about this is retarded
2018-02-19T00:24:36 < Steffanx> How does that work? Its wireless?
2018-02-19T00:24:40 < Laurenceb_> still, easy money
2018-02-19T00:24:50 < Steffanx> Or tiny tiny wires?
2018-02-19T00:24:58 < Laurenceb_> Steffanx: prob tiny wires and mems mic
2018-02-19T00:25:45 < Steffanx> Whats wrong with some model indeed? Ear drums etc includes
2018-02-19T00:25:58 < Steffanx> Sounds more fun to make
2018-02-19T00:26:06 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2018-02-19T00:26:25 < Laurenceb_> and no babbies with incinerated ears if it shorts
2018-02-19T00:26:39 < BrainDamage> head foam model has been used since ~50 years
2018-02-19T00:26:43 < BrainDamage> sorry, 40
2018-02-19T00:26:45 < Laurenceb_> yeah
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2018-02-19T00:26:54 < BrainDamage> eversince binaural recordings were invented
2018-02-19T00:27:08 < Laurenceb_> tbf when the staff know its not a real babby they behave very differently
2018-02-19T00:27:16 < Laurenceb_> from the data we recorded so far
2018-02-19T00:27:43 < Steffanx> Sounds like you need a monkey
2018-02-19T00:27:56 < Laurenceb_> like "what the actual fuck, why do we have to move a foam model between intensive care wards"
2018-02-19T00:28:17 < BrainDamage> do they start tossing it around?
2018-02-19T00:28:24 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-19T00:28:45 < Steffanx> You shouldnt move patients using dhl or ups
2018-02-19T00:29:48 < Laurenceb_> that makes me think, time to look at those dhl/ups dataloggers ppl mak:ers have built/failed
2018-02-19T00:31:09 < BrainDamage> mmm, i wonder if you could make a cheap shock sensor to bundle like a sticker on every shipment
2018-02-19T00:31:26 < BrainDamage> like tuning fork
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2018-02-19T00:31:44 < BrainDamage> if rods get broken, package has been mishandled
2018-02-19T00:31:57 < Steffanx> Digital or just like those g-sensorish stickers?
2018-02-19T00:32:09 < BrainDamage> mechanical, literally let them break
2018-02-19T00:32:32 < BrainDamage> it has to be cheap if it has to be slapped on every shipment
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2018-02-19T01:09:10 < Laurenceb_> there is so little data on hearing sensitivity :(
2018-02-19T01:09:21 < Laurenceb_> iso226:2003 doesnt have proper age data
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2018-02-19T01:21:01 < upgrdman> lolwut  https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/18/health/dog-food-pentobarbital/index.html
2018-02-19T01:23:10 < upgrdman> more lol  http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/02/18/fight-over-mans-flatulence-forces-flight-to-make-emergency-landing.html
2018-02-19T01:23:20 < upgrdman> "Two Dutchmen sitting next to the flatulent passenger reportedly asked the man to stop, but he refused and continued to break wind aboard the Transavia Airlines flight from Dubai to Amsterdam Schiphol."
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2018-02-19T01:32:01 < Steffanx> Dont bully us dutchies upgrdman
2018-02-19T01:32:19 < upgrdman> :)
2018-02-19T01:32:20 < Steffanx> Just stop it when asked nicely
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2018-02-19T01:48:06 < karlp> Laurenceb_: probably because it's all qualitative, so hard to get real numbers on anything
2018-02-19T01:48:57 < Laurenceb_> we just need to interview the babbies
2018-02-19T01:51:48 < BrainDamage> generally hearing sensitivity tests are done by ab comparison, hard to do it on infants
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2018-02-19T03:43:28 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KxjVlaLBmk pro
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2018-02-19T03:49:05 < Laurenceb_> looks like dc servo motors
2018-02-19T03:52:43 < Laurenceb_> https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c5/0c/31/c50c3187d281788d7538a601f54e02db.jpg
2018-02-19T03:52:51 < Laurenceb_> >copyright infringement
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2018-02-19T05:59:27 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone have a clue wtf is going on with stlinkv2 and windows10?
2018-02-19T05:59:56 < ColdKeyboard> I have three stlinks that "stopped" working. When you connect first time it detects device, second time it says USB communication error
2018-02-19T06:03:41 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/fhQ5Shz.gif
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2018-02-19T06:14:37 < ColdKeyboard> lmao
2018-02-19T06:14:50 < ColdKeyboard> Oh, removing Virtual COM port driver for ST link did the trick...
2018-02-19T06:14:51 < ColdKeyboard> dang
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2018-02-19T06:33:19 < dongs> just plugged stlink into win10 1709
2018-02-19T06:33:23 < dongs> from 429zi-nucleo
2018-02-19T06:33:25 < dongs> zero issues
2018-02-19T06:33:31 < dongs> has both vcp and stlink drivers.
2018-02-19T06:33:33 < dongs> your shit is broken
2018-02-19T06:39:22 < englishman> guessing he got infected by ZADIG
2018-02-19T06:41:49 < dongs> lewl
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2018-02-19T07:09:21 < ColdKeyboard> I removed the driver and istalled the default one and it's working again
2018-02-19T07:09:32 < ColdKeyboard> But now RTC doesn't seem to be running... damn
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2018-02-19T07:10:31 < ColdKeyboard> The RTC doesn't seem to be driven
2018-02-19T07:10:36 < ColdKeyboard> wtf...
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2018-02-19T07:12:48 < unsuscribedunreg> hi
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2018-02-19T07:20:35 < ColdKeyboard> Dang, RCC_OSCILLATORTYPE_LSE was commented...
2018-02-19T07:20:38 < ColdKeyboard> Problem solved
2018-02-19T07:20:42 < ColdKeyboard> Hello unsuscribedunreg
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2018-02-19T09:42:59 < unsuscribedunreg> nah since my supercheap chinese ledlamp lithium charger blown up, i hacked a phone charger to be a 4V20 output 700mA charger
2018-02-19T09:44:56 < unsuscribedunreg> nah why?
2018-02-19T09:45:17 < unsuscribedunreg> it smells a bit bad but it was tiny
2018-02-19T09:45:55 < unsuscribedunreg> primary side to220 power stage and the 105C electrolytic cap blown up in it (lol)
2018-02-19T09:46:14 < unsuscribedunreg> i mean to92
2018-02-19T09:46:15 < unsuscribedunreg> kek
2018-02-19T09:46:31 < unsuscribedunreg> a to92 thing switched the 325V
2018-02-19T09:47:12 < unsuscribedunreg> kindof new still, probably will be for another 100 years
2018-02-19T09:48:12 < unsuscribedunreg> well it smells bad, and the wound up crap partially exited the aluminium cylinder
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2018-02-19T09:48:36 < unsuscribedunreg> i was charging 2 lithium cells with it btw
2018-02-19T09:49:02 < unsuscribedunreg> i just noticed that it is not charging anymore, only deplptes them with the green ligth
2018-02-19T09:49:07 < unsuscribedunreg> light
2018-02-19T09:49:50 < unsuscribedunreg> since they were unable to put a lithium charger in the led lamp, they used a "lithium charger power supply"
2018-02-19T09:50:00 < unsuscribedunreg> crt: sure, in china kek
2018-02-19T09:50:08 < unsuscribedunreg> i will pack it right away
2018-02-19T09:50:46 < unsuscribedunreg> i think i will wrap it in my left over bag from my last meal
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2018-02-19T09:53:46 < unsuscribedunreg> I don't have any ;/
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2018-02-19T09:58:14 < unsuscribedunreg> crt: how dare you not have an stm32 ? ;/
2018-02-19T09:58:26 < unsuscribedunreg> i will, i just cant now
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2018-02-19T10:03:34 < unsuscribedunreg> i thought you had a cathode ray tube
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2018-02-19T10:06:23 < unsuscribedunreg> btw, china guy was kewl, and regulated the output lithium charge voltage with a zener diode in series with the feedback optocoupler... it WAS 4.45V unloaded btw ;) (the charger that blew up)
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2018-02-19T10:10:32 < unsuscribedunreg> wat
2018-02-19T10:10:38 < unsuscribedunreg> wo
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2018-02-19T10:17:30 < dongs> hmm what the fuck
2018-02-19T10:17:42 < dongs> stm32f4xx doesnt include OTG_FS stuff defines?
2018-02-19T10:19:49 < zyp> what stm32f4xx?
2018-02-19T10:19:57 < dongs> the main header
2018-02-19T10:19:58 < dongs> for stm32f4
2018-02-19T10:20:02 < dongs> ~600k or wahtever
2018-02-19T10:20:11 < dongs> ok, what the fuck keil actually has a version which DOES include OTG shit in it
2018-02-19T10:20:15 < dongs>   * @version V1.3.0         modified by Keil (added USB definitions)
2018-02-19T10:20:17 < dongs>  ???
2018-02-19T10:20:23 < zyp> hah
2018-02-19T10:21:48 < dongs>  /* added by Keil */
2018-02-19T10:21:48 < dongs> #define OTG_FS_BASE           (AHB2PERIPH_BASE + 0x00000)
2018-02-19T10:21:48 < dongs> #define OTG_FS_DFIFO0_BASE    (OTG_FS_BASE + 0x01000)
2018-02-19T10:21:48 < dongs> #define OTG_FS_DFIFO1_BASE    (OTG_FS_BASE + 0x02000)
2018-02-19T10:21:49 < dongs> what
2018-02-19T10:21:55 < dongs> how can this shit NOT be in header that ST ships??
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2018-02-19T10:22:14 < dongs> i pulled latest out of the fucking stdperiphlib
2018-02-19T10:22:24 < zyp> maybe they have it separately
2018-02-19T10:22:30 < dongs> i was kinda confused that there was no stm32f4xx_usb.c or something in the rest of the files
2018-02-19T10:22:36 < dongs> where thres rcc adc etc
2018-02-19T10:22:54 < dongs> http://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stsw-stm32046.html y ou mean this?
2018-02-19T10:22:57 < zyp> usb is kinda useless without a whole usb stack
2018-02-19T10:25:14 < dongs> 76 megs... yeah
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2018-02-19T10:25:38 < dongs> zyp, all your shit is here
2018-02-19T10:25:41 < dongs> i guess i should assemble huh
2018-02-19T10:25:49 < zyp> nice
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2018-02-19T10:28:17 < jadew> google image search replaced the view button with a save button
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2018-02-19T10:28:23 < dongs> yes
2018-02-19T10:28:29 < dongs> already clicked it by mistake several times
2018-02-19T10:28:32 < dongs> o6'ing hard right now
2018-02-19T10:28:33 < jadew> me too
2018-02-19T10:28:37 < zyp> that annoyed me the other day too
2018-02-19T10:28:44 < dongs> this is how they track your cp searches
2018-02-19T10:28:56 < zyp> I didn't notice the save button, just that the view button were gone
2018-02-19T10:29:00 < Steffanx> Blame getty images
2018-02-19T10:29:00 < jadew> the worst part is you can't view the image anymore
2018-02-19T10:29:05 < dongs> i think they literally replaced it
2018-02-19T10:29:10 < dongs> unless save was there before
2018-02-19T10:29:15 < dongs> and it got shifted left
2018-02-19T10:29:15 < Steffanx> They sued google for the old button
2018-02-19T10:29:25 < jadew> really?
2018-02-19T10:29:29 < Steffanx> Yes
2018-02-19T10:29:33 < dongs> judew, what about middle click on the shit or somethign
2018-02-19T10:29:38 < Steffanx> Google had to remove it.
2018-02-19T10:29:48 < dongs> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/internet-rages-after-google-removes-view-image-button-bowing-to-getty/
2018-02-19T10:29:51 < dongs> haha
2018-02-19T10:29:53 < dongs> getty
2018-02-19T10:29:56 < unsuscribedunreg> what do you think about my plan to create the brain of a laser printer with an stm32 without external ram, and print at 1200x1200 dpi? :)
2018-02-19T10:30:12 < dongs> unsuscribedunreg: you need to lurk more to level up on trolling
2018-02-19T10:30:32 < Steffanx> He aint trolling
2018-02-19T10:30:45 < dongs> in that case /msg o_6
2018-02-19T10:30:46 < jadew> dongs, didn't know they linked directly to the image
2018-02-19T10:30:50 < dongs> for complete stm32 printer stack
2018-02-19T10:30:52 < unsuscribedunreg> i figured i need only 8192 bytes of ram to make it work in A4 size
2018-02-19T10:30:53 < jadew> seems that open image in new tab works
2018-02-19T10:32:08 < dongs> ugh
2018-02-19T10:32:10 < unsuscribedunreg> dongs: srsly ;)
2018-02-19T10:32:19 < dongs> there's no examples of class-less usb host in that shitty stm lib
2018-02-19T10:32:36 < dongs> only for cdc/hid/msc
2018-02-19T10:32:43 < jadew> google should have just removed getty from the search results
2018-02-19T10:32:49 < dongs> i agree
2018-02-19T10:32:53 < dongs> theres nothing useful tehre anyway
2018-02-19T10:32:59 < dongs> anyone who wants shit from getty can just goto their site and search
2018-02-19T10:33:00 < dongs> amirite?
2018-02-19T10:33:19 < unsuscribedunreg> black&white would need 1024 bytes ram, 8 bit grayscale 8kiB
2018-02-19T10:33:21 < dongs> you should work for google
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2018-02-19T10:34:28 < unsuscribedunreg> any less than that would suck big time because a scanline would not fit in a buffer ;/
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2018-02-19T10:41:22 < dongs> fuck the lib is a complete fucking mess
2018-02-19T10:41:29 < dongs> it doesnt even include shit properly what the fuck
2018-02-19T10:41:38 < zyp> what happened to the keil lib you looked at the other day?
2018-02-19T10:41:39 < dongs> usb_conf.h: #include "usb_conf.h"
2018-02-19T10:41:53 < dongs> zyp, i trashed it, it relied on that modified f4xx include files
2018-02-19T10:42:08 < dongs> so I can't make a standalone project
2018-02-19T10:42:14 < dongs> that doesnt refer to c:\keiol\fuckoff include files
2018-02-19T10:42:21 < zyp> oh, haha
2018-02-19T10:42:53 < zyp> sounds like it sucks either way then
2018-02-19T10:44:19 < qyx> you should use some opensores then
2018-02-19T10:44:33 < dongs> opensores supports USB host on F4 without aids?
2018-02-19T10:44:39 < dongs> i'm open to suggestiosn
2018-02-19T10:44:56 < zyp> dunno, I don't have any experience with it
2018-02-19T10:45:05 < qyx> me neither, just trolling
2018-02-19T10:45:05 < dongs> talkin to qyx's trollsuggestion
2018-02-19T10:45:08 < dongs> haha, faggots.
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2018-02-19T10:45:10 < dongs> THOUGHT SO
2018-02-19T10:45:28 < dongs> i'd be extremely surprised if libopencm3 or wahtever had any working USB
2018-02-19T10:46:20 < zyp> device stack works well enough, but it doesn't have host
2018-02-19T10:46:32 < zyp> I think that forked thing might have host
2018-02-19T10:46:32 < qyx> seeed started to pack do-not-eat bags with pcbs
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2018-02-19T10:47:05 < zyp> but I'm not sure about the quality of that
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2018-02-19T10:52:30 < dongs> usb_bsp.c(94): error:  #147-D: declaration is incompatible with "void USB_OTG_BSP_Init(USB_OTG_CORE_HANDLE *)"  (declared at line 80 of "lib\STM32_USB_OTG_Driver\inc\usb_bsp.h")
2018-02-19T10:52:34 < dongs> wow some quality shit in ST
2018-02-19T10:53:37 < dongs> i guess the shipped _template.c doenst even match header anymore
2018-02-19T10:53:46 < stvn> clean as a whistle
2018-02-19T10:53:46 < zyp> shame I don't have host support in laks either :p
2018-02-19T10:54:42 < dongs> lib\STM32_USB_OTG_Driver\src\usb_hcd_int.c(275): error:  #136: struct "USB_OTG_handle"  has no field "host"
2018-02-19T10:54:46 < dongs> thats better
2018-02-19T10:55:27 < dongs> ok, thats a config issue
2018-02-19T10:55:44 < dongs> but they should have guarded against that with some #error if a proper mode wasnt selected??
2018-02-19T10:56:06 < dongs> like #ifdef USE_DEVICE_MODE and you're trying to build usb_host.c #error fuck off
2018-02-19T10:58:05 < dongs> if I JUST need host, i dont need to compile OTG mdoe shit do i?
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2018-02-19T11:18:15 < stvn> I'm a fucking autiste
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2018-02-19T11:22:26 < Steffanx> It is known stvn
2018-02-19T11:22:45 < stvn> thankyou dad
2018-02-19T11:22:56 < stvn> the doctor prescribed me 2 wafl a day
2018-02-19T11:23:39 < stvn> you know if i bring your coasters to work my boss will think i'm trying to kill him
2018-02-19T11:24:30 < Steffanx> Lol y?
2018-02-19T11:24:50 < Steffanx> My merchandise doesnt kill people
2018-02-19T11:24:54 < stvn> cause he has the beetus mate
2018-02-19T11:26:40 < stvn> THE BETES
2018-02-19T11:27:20 < Steffanx> Poor guy
2018-02-19T11:27:27 < Steffanx> The good or bad version?
2018-02-19T11:27:50 < Steffanx> Was he born with it or eat too much?
2018-02-19T11:27:51 < stvn> type1
2018-02-19T11:27:55 < stvn> idk
2018-02-19T11:28:02 < Steffanx> Thats the bad type iirc
2018-02-19T11:28:11 < stvn> i generally don't ask HEY MATE HOW DID YOU RUIN YOUR HEALTH
2018-02-19T11:28:15 < stvn> injections
2018-02-19T11:28:21 < stvn> all that stuff with type1
2018-02-19T11:28:35 < stvn> cause we were talking about tetanus shots
2018-02-19T11:29:12 < stvn> i was lead to believe how awful a tetanus shot was, 2 years ago i got one, felt like any other vaccine ive ever had
2018-02-19T11:29:21 < stvn> don't see what people are complaining about
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2018-02-19T11:51:35 < dongs> nice, ST's host lib has a whole bunch of retarded callbacks and you HAVE to provide all of htem or else it just crashes
2018-02-19T11:53:57 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-19T11:54:01 < stvn> rewrite it they said
2018-02-19T11:54:37 < dongs> nope
2018-02-19T11:55:03 < stvn> okay
2018-02-19T11:55:08  * stvn goes back to pumping
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2018-02-19T12:00:25 < karlp> dongs: wat you doing posting ~10 year old robot vidoes?
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2018-02-19T12:01:09 < stvn> hi sir
2018-02-19T12:02:09 < dongs> karlp: lol seen on freecancer
2018-02-19T12:02:16 < dongs> someone wanted same thing duplicated for $200
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2018-02-19T12:16:46 < dongs> got it to build with all shit stubbed
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2018-02-19T12:23:55 < stvn> good
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2018-02-19T12:43:18 < invzim> dongs: what do you do with the SY8088AAC enable pin?
2018-02-19T12:46:06 < invzim> just hook it up to vin and hope for the best_
2018-02-19T12:46:06 < invzim> ?
2018-02-19T12:48:30 < stvn> first
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2018-02-19T13:08:40 < dongs> invzim: what else, sure
2018-02-19T13:08:45 < dongs> unless need power sequencing then gpio it
2018-02-19T13:09:09 < dongs> or RC circuit from another power supply to turn it on later
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2018-02-19T13:26:40 < stvn> A middle-aged transvestite demonstrating how to repurpose high voltage transformers for fun in his garage - I've gotta hand it to you, Internet, you went all out on this one.
2018-02-19T13:27:04 < dongs> comment on one of your vids?
2018-02-19T13:28:24 < stvn> yeah mate!
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2018-02-19T13:35:59 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/76cPMqN.png
2018-02-19T13:36:06 < dongs> does that look like USB trying to USB
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2018-02-19T13:40:58 < dongs> nice
2018-02-19T13:41:06 < dongs> i had power switch enable switched
2018-02-19T13:41:57 < dongs> wow
2018-02-19T13:42:00 < dongs> it acutally worked
2018-02-19T13:42:34 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/BAipqc22.html
2018-02-19T13:43:16 < zyp> nice
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2018-02-19T13:45:43 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/TwCFvIr.png
2018-02-19T13:46:27 < dongs> wow it even handles connect/disconnect properly
2018-02-19T13:47:36 < zyp> well, it should
2018-02-19T13:47:40 < zyp> it's not hard to
2018-02-19T13:49:10 < dongs> bInterfaceClass 0xFF. looks like my custom device
2018-02-19T13:49:18 < dongs> with 2 endpoints
2018-02-19T13:56:27 < dongs> now to figure out what to do with this info...
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2018-02-19T14:44:46 < qyx> such expensive 200K 0.1%
2018-02-19T14:45:04 < qyx> that ST fuel gauge needs them
2018-02-19T14:45:34 < kakimir> fuel gaugle?
2018-02-19T14:46:00 < qyx> battery fuel gauge, STC3100
2018-02-19T14:46:03 < BrainDamage> battery charge measurement
2018-02-19T14:46:11 < dongs> whoever wrote CD00289278.pdf is a fucking shithead
2018-02-19T14:46:24 < dongs> they managed to make 107 pages of shit without having a single sentence that makes sense
2018-02-19T14:46:28 < dongs> way2go, st
2018-02-19T14:47:55 < kakimir> fuel gaugle?5 for?
2018-02-19T14:48:07 < kakimir> what it needs 0.1% for?
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2018-02-19T14:50:17 < dongs> so after reading whole thing, i have no idea how to initiate a control transfer to the connected usb device.
2018-02-19T14:50:20 < Laurenceb> I've never been impressed by battery fuel gauges
2018-02-19T14:51:49 < qyx> kakimir: some reference
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2018-02-19T14:59:30 < dongs> http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/english/news/money/20397-part-financial-sanctions-n-korea-us-asks-s-korean-banks-investigate-cryptocurrency
2018-02-19T14:59:33 < dongs> lol
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2018-02-19T15:08:48 < zyp> shit, I bet the bitcoin I got from Steffanx came from north korea
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2018-02-19T15:12:02 < dongs> norks have nothign better to do than mine shitcoin 24/7
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2018-02-19T15:12:40 < BrainDamage> mining hypecoins on 486 machines and downloading the 100GB blockchain on dialup
2018-02-19T15:13:11 < zyp> you can get it via broadcast satellite nowadays
2018-02-19T15:14:35 < karlp> everyone who even wants to make a bitcoin transaction has to have the entire blockchain?
2018-02-19T15:14:46 < BrainDamage> yes and no
2018-02-19T15:14:47 < zyp> no
2018-02-19T15:15:06 < BrainDamage> technically you do, if you use the formally correct version
2018-02-19T15:15:38 < BrainDamage> there's an alternative mechanism, that's slightly less secure, and lets you do by downloading a sort of summary, which is about 10MB
2018-02-19T15:16:18 < BrainDamage> obviously nobody does anymore the first
2018-02-19T15:16:27 < zyp> the entire blockchain history is only used to prove validity of current state, since it's a chain of trust
2018-02-19T15:16:34 < BrainDamage> also to be pedant, yes, that
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2018-02-19T15:17:05 < BrainDamage> you can even make a transaction blindly, but you won't have an acknowledged write until you verify it's there
2018-02-19T15:17:13 < zyp> the current state (UTXO set) is something like 7GB or so now
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2018-02-19T15:18:19 < zyp> that's the collection of all current bitcoin balances, which you need to validate new transactions, to check that the coins they are spending actually exist
2018-02-19T15:20:00 < dongs> shitcoin doesnt actaully exist
2018-02-19T15:20:42 < zyp> not as an object in itself, no
2018-02-19T15:20:48 < BrainDamage> well, neither does your money in a bank, it's the promise that people will exchange some number in a pc that has value
2018-02-19T15:21:08 < dongs> at least my money in a bank actually has value
2018-02-19T15:21:09 < BrainDamage> the difference is that with a bank, there's a chain of human responsibility
2018-02-19T15:21:21 < BrainDamage> with shitcoin, no
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2018-02-19T15:25:08 < zyp> karlp, technically you don't need anything to transact, all the information involved is just concerned about validating transactions
2018-02-19T15:25:54 < BrainDamage> yeah, if you have the addresses, you can make transaction blindly, even offline, then send them afterwards
2018-02-19T15:26:03 < BrainDamage> ( addresses and keys )
2018-02-19T15:26:46 < zyp> or rather, miners are validating transactions, all you might want to do is validate that miners are making valid blocks
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2018-02-19T15:27:14 < BrainDamage> well, you can make a mistake in the transaction, so your transaction can get refused
2018-02-19T15:27:21 < dongs> hurr durr
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2018-02-19T15:27:47 < zyp> BrainDamage, yes, but that'll prevent it from being mined
2018-02-19T15:27:53 < BrainDamage> yup
2018-02-19T15:32:29 < Steffanx> I bought them online. zyp
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2018-02-19T15:32:37 < Steffanx> No clue who mined it.
2018-02-19T15:32:41 < zyp> from north korea?
2018-02-19T15:33:08 < Steffanx> Idk. I bought it from some random seller. Dont even remember
2018-02-19T15:38:25 < Laurenceb> https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/02/19/0353232/ibm-sues-microsofts-new-chief-diversity-officer-to-protect-diversity-trade-secrets
2018-02-19T15:38:27 < Laurenceb> my sides
2018-02-19T15:39:39 < dongs> wat
2018-02-19T15:39:53 < dongs> do they have anything better to do
2018-02-19T15:40:04 < Laurenceb> trollercoaster
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2018-02-19T15:45:30 < dongs> hm so
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2018-02-19T15:50:05 < dongs> zyp, do I need to "open" control endpoint or is that always available?
2018-02-19T15:50:11 < dongs> i thinkit s EP0 or rhwatever
2018-02-19T15:50:26 < zyp> open in what sense?
2018-02-19T15:50:31 < dongs> i donnno
2018-02-19T15:50:35 < dongs> to do somethign with it
2018-02-19T15:50:45 < zyp> from a device perspective, EP0 is always enabled, the rest are enabled by set_configuration()
2018-02-19T15:51:04 < zyp> but I don't know how your host api looks
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2018-02-19T15:52:19 < Laurenceb> freebsdgrrrl strikes again https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/02/17/0826206/freebsds-new-code-of-conduct
2018-02-19T15:52:37 < Laurenceb> > Deliberate use of "dead" or rejected names
2018-02-19T15:52:48 < Laurenceb> > textual descriptions like "hug" or "backrub"
2018-02-19T15:53:23 < englishman> /hug Laurenceb
2018-02-19T15:53:36 < Laurenceb> I'm literally shaking right now
2018-02-19T15:54:29 < karlp> what's neurodiversity ?
2018-02-19T15:54:45 < dongs> * @brief This file is the header file for usbh_hcs.c
2018-02-19T15:54:52 < dongs> i wish doxyen shit didnt fucking exist
2018-02-19T15:54:53 < Laurenceb> someone who disagrees with them.. oh wait
2018-02-19T15:54:55 < dongs> complete and utter shite
2018-02-19T15:55:03 < dongs> @doxugen: THIS IS A FILE
2018-02-19T15:55:07 < Laurenceb> kek dongs
2018-02-19T15:55:13 < dongs> @brief: THIS IS A BRIEF
2018-02-19T15:55:15 < dongs> literally fucking
2018-02-19T15:55:19 < dongs> 99% of ST docs
2018-02-19T15:55:32 < dongs> why does it exist? what does it do? how to use it? nope, cba to write that
2018-02-19T15:55:54 < karlp> yeah, fucking can't stand those sort of useless shit tags
2018-02-19T15:56:01 < karlp> they're great when they say something
2018-02-19T15:56:32 < zyp> IMO no documentation is preferable to bad documentation, at least it doesn't get in the way
2018-02-19T15:56:41 < dongs> ^^ yea this
2018-02-19T15:56:56 < tomeaton17> Hopefully my altium student gets accepted so I can finally move on from kicad
2018-02-19T15:57:11 < dongs> if I remove all the useless fucking doygen tags that dont do shit out of all this st sample code it would probly become half the size
2018-02-19T15:59:16 < dongs> haha... tried to find docs for USBH_Open_Channel
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2018-02-19T15:59:25 < dongs> in that PDF, which supposedly describes host library
2018-02-19T15:59:34 < dongs> ONE hit for that function
2018-02-19T15:59:43 < dongs> Opens and configures a new host channel.
2018-02-19T15:59:45 < dongs> thats it.
2018-02-19T15:59:48 < dongs> what do the params mean?
2018-02-19T15:59:52 < dongs> what are the values/ranges?
2018-02-19T15:59:56 < dongs> what does it return/do?
2018-02-19T15:59:57 < dongs> holy shit.
2018-02-19T16:00:11 < dongs> i wonder if anyone actually uses usb on stm32 beyond basic shit
2018-02-19T16:00:31 < dongs> basic shit being USB-CDC device or someshit
2018-02-19T16:01:06 < zyp> there's plenty of various device stacks existing
2018-02-19T16:01:12 < zyp> host, less so
2018-02-19T16:01:53 < dongs> i just wanna proof of concept this to prove its too fucking hard and just move to i.mx233 and lunix :)
2018-02-19T16:02:08 < zyp> haha
2018-02-19T16:02:16 < zyp> is i.mx233 good?
2018-02-19T16:02:19 < dongs> no its trash
2018-02-19T16:02:25 < dongs> but its cheap
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2018-02-19T16:02:45 < qyx> isn't it dead yet?
2018-02-19T16:02:47 < zyp> oh, ARM9
2018-02-19T16:02:49 < _Getty> Hey, stop talking shit about getty images................. i get the highlight ;)
2018-02-19T16:02:50 < zyp> that's old
2018-02-19T16:02:59 < zyp> _Getty, we blame you
2018-02-19T16:03:20 < dongs> getty me some images
2018-02-19T16:03:44 < zyp> dongs, so is it cheaper than some allwinner cortex-a shit?
2018-02-19T16:03:53 < _Getty> What about some oil? http://www.gettyoil.com/ ;)
2018-02-19T16:04:10 < dongs> zyp, allwhiner is mostly overkill
2018-02-19T16:04:16 < dongs> and needs ddr2 and shit
2018-02-19T16:04:23 < dongs> what i wanna do *should* be doable on a fast-ish STM
2018-02-19T16:04:26 < dongs> i think/hope
2018-02-19T16:04:36 < karlp> same getty isn't it?
2018-02-19T16:04:41 < _Getty> yes
2018-02-19T16:04:47 < karlp> imx23 is fucking archaic
2018-02-19T16:04:50 < _Getty> aehm wait, not the getty images tho if i remember correctly
2018-02-19T16:04:59 < zyp> sure, sure, just wondering if i.mx233 would be advantageous for anything I'd want to do
2018-02-19T16:05:01 < karlp> but supported for another 10 years or something dumb
2018-02-19T16:05:07 < _Getty> gettyoil and getty museum and the famous getty family is one thing and getty images is another.... i think
2018-02-19T16:05:11 < karlp> imx6 is at least somewhat more current, and much the same.
2018-02-19T16:05:11 < BrainDamage> karlp: neurodiversity is the politically correct term for personality disorders like autism, etc. It borderlines to apologism to their problems, the dialectic swings between classifying them as 'different, with unique assets' to  celebrating as some sort of mad genius, instead of there's a social problem between them and rest we need to fix this.
2018-02-19T16:05:33 < karlp> BrainDamage: that's what I suspected, thanks.
2018-02-19T16:05:50 < dongs> zyp, only if you want SDRAM and super shitty code with very limited memory bandwidth
2018-02-19T16:05:54 < dongs> code=core
2018-02-19T16:06:13 < karlp> imx23 is ~= to some of the old at91 iirc,
2018-02-19T16:06:18 < dongs> karlp: imx6 needs ddr2 or someshit
2018-02-19T16:06:23 < karlp> just decide whether you want atmel or nxp
2018-02-19T16:06:25 < dongs> and is overkill
2018-02-19T16:06:43 < dongs> cortex A5 would work but it has the same problem, needs ddr2 ram
2018-02-19T16:06:48 < karlp> well, overkill is relative.
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2018-02-19T16:07:08 < karlp> isn't ddr2 the "stanrdrd"? aren't you paying a premium for sdram now?
2018-02-19T16:07:24 < dongs> you can layout sdr on 2L
2018-02-19T16:07:28 < qyx> hes just lazy to route ddr2
2018-02-19T16:07:31 < dongs> ^
2018-02-19T16:07:57 < _Getty> DDR2 is already outdating ;)
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2018-02-19T16:16:41 < Rob235> man, how do you get prints off painters tape.  maybe I have my nozzle too close for the first layer
2018-02-19T16:17:09 < tomeaton17> Wow the altium student application is great, less than an hour and I am downloading altium
2018-02-19T16:17:10 < dongs> ragers tape
2018-02-19T16:17:42 < Rob235> I'm scratching the crap out of my aluminum bed.  I need to get some glass or something
2018-02-19T16:17:55 < Rob235> a spatula type tool would be helpful too
2018-02-19T16:18:01 < zyp> stop fucking around with that shit, get a pei sheet
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2018-02-19T16:19:02 < dongs> zyp, control endpoint = interrupt?
2018-02-19T16:19:09 < zyp> no
2018-02-19T16:19:11 < dongs> or can there be an interrupt endpoint that isnt control
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2018-02-19T16:19:41 < zyp> there are four endpoint types: control, interrupt, bulk, isochronous
2018-02-19T16:19:46 < dongs> ok
2018-02-19T16:19:57 < dongs> my shit has control (ep0) and bulk at 0x81
2018-02-19T16:20:07 < dongs> still trying to figure out how to send/receive anything over ep0
2018-02-19T16:20:15 < zyp> EP0 is control, the rest are one of the remaining three types, and the difference is basically just how the host schedules them
2018-02-19T16:20:27 < dongs>   return USBH_CtlReq(pdev, phost, 0 , 0 );
2018-02-19T16:20:30 < dongs> nice, found something
2018-02-19T16:20:31 < dongs> that must be it
2018-02-19T16:21:09 < dongs> so nice of ST to explain all this
2018-02-19T16:21:13 < zyp> that looks a bit short
2018-02-19T16:21:39 < dongs> you touch stuff inside phost.Control.* struct to prepare it
2018-02-19T16:21:51 < zyp> ah, fair
2018-02-19T16:21:57 < dongs> wValue/index/reqcode/reqtype etc
2018-02-19T16:22:24 < zyp> a control request consists of a setup packet followed by a data transfer in or out
2018-02-19T16:22:27 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-19T16:22:45 < dongs> USBH_CtlReq
2018-02-19T16:22:45 < dongs> High level function for generating a control
2018-02-19T16:22:45 < dongs> transfer (setup, data, status stages).
2018-02-19T16:22:49 < dongs> thats all the docs i have from ST
2018-02-19T16:22:53 < dongs> a-mazing
2018-02-19T16:22:53 < zyp> so a sane API will have you provide the fields to go into the setup packet (that's wValue and those), along with a pointer to the buffer for the data transfer
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2018-02-19T16:24:03 < zyp> after the transfer you should have a status code, the buffer, and a pointer to how much data you actually received (in case of an IN transfer)
2018-02-19T16:24:10 < dongs> yeah the 0,0 in that pasted is buffer + length
2018-02-19T16:24:32 < zyp> sounds good
2018-02-19T16:24:54 < dongs>   phost->Control.setup.b.bmRequestType = USB_H2D | USB_REQ_RECIPIENT_DEVICE |\
2018-02-19T16:24:54 < dongs>     USB_REQ_TYPE_STANDARD;
2018-02-19T16:25:00 < dongs> fucking die for using \
2018-02-19T16:25:03 < dongs> like this
2018-02-19T16:25:15 < zyp> but but but 80 cols!
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2018-02-19T16:27:09 < dongs>  and a pointer to how much data you actually received < dont think it has that.
2018-02-19T16:27:25 < zyp> I mean, a field where you can read that out after the transfer
2018-02-19T16:27:46 < dongs> ah probably in the struct?
2018-02-19T16:27:53 < zyp> guess so
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2018-02-19T16:42:43 < karlp> zyp: don't need the \ though, it's not a string continuation
2018-02-19T16:44:24 < zyp> I know, I don't think that was the point
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2018-02-19T16:53:05 < dongs> fuck every fucking call to ST USB shite needs pdev and phost
2018-02-19T16:53:11 < dongs> pointer to device and to host lib trash
2018-02-19T16:53:18 < dongs> i bet they're all fucking same anyway
2018-02-19T16:53:39 < dongs> and is same shit thats already a global public var, just a pointer to same shit
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2018-02-19T17:03:26 < Laurenceb> funtimes
2018-02-19T17:03:36  * Laurenceb is trying to install lunix on a new machine
2018-02-19T17:03:42 < Laurenceb> wtf is /etc/mtab  ?
2018-02-19T17:03:47 < Laurenceb> and why is it missing
2018-02-19T17:03:50 < dongs> i bet its systemd related
2018-02-19T17:04:10 < zyp> haha, no, mtab is ancient
2018-02-19T17:04:31 < Laurenceb> I need to pay a lunix consultant to install muh shit
2018-02-19T17:04:40 < dongs> why not just install it in a VM
2018-02-19T17:04:42 < dongs> like real pros do
2018-02-19T17:04:48 < Laurenceb> heh interesting plan
2018-02-19T17:05:05 < Laurenceb> also windoze has 4 partitions already
2018-02-19T17:05:07 < Laurenceb> argggg
2018-02-19T17:05:14 < Laurenceb> I should prob just wipe windozer
2018-02-19T17:05:33 < zyp> /etc/mtab is just a list of mounted filesystems, I thought all modern systems just symlinked it to /proc/mounts
2018-02-19T17:05:43 < Laurenceb> ok
2018-02-19T17:08:55 < Laurenceb> so I need to mount then unmount the drive
2018-02-19T17:09:02 < Laurenceb> typical lunix behaviour
2018-02-19T17:09:22 < Laurenceb> now I have the >4 partitions issue...
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2018-02-19T17:11:27 < qyx> whats stm32f048
2018-02-19T17:11:30 < qyx> nearly I got trolled
2018-02-19T17:11:35 < qyx> it is 1.8V only
2018-02-19T17:11:52 < Laurenceb> does it have usb? too lazy 2 google
2018-02-19T17:12:47 < qyx> yes
2018-02-19T17:12:49 < qyx> and super cheap
2018-02-19T17:13:05 < dongs> how is it .18v only
2018-02-19T17:13:07 < dongs> with usb
2018-02-19T17:13:12 < qyx> it has vddio
2018-02-19T17:13:18 < qyx> but vdd is 1V8
2018-02-19T17:13:21 < dongs> oh vdda/vddio
2018-02-19T17:13:22 < dongs> ic
2018-02-19T17:13:23 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-19T17:13:24 < dongs> cool
2018-02-19T17:13:58 < zyp> so it's just a low-voltage version of f042?
2018-02-19T17:15:12 < qyx> probably
2018-02-19T17:15:15 < qyx> and 1/2 the price
2018-02-19T17:16:58 < Laurenceb> perman00b question: lunix "bootloader" installation is the ext4 partition right?
2018-02-19T17:17:12 < dongs> nobody knows
2018-02-19T17:17:17 < dongs> does lunix still not support UEFI boot
2018-02-19T17:17:17 < Laurenceb> with uefi
2018-02-19T17:17:21 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-19T17:17:48 < dongs> all "advice" i hear of installing lunix, go to bios and disable secureboot
2018-02-19T17:17:49 < dongs> and uefi
2018-02-19T17:17:52 < dongs> in 2018
2018-02-19T17:17:59 < dongs> fucking idiots
2018-02-19T17:19:02 < Laurenceb> the current year
2018-02-19T17:19:22 < Laurenceb> >installation language: esperanto
2018-02-19T17:19:24 < Laurenceb> my sides
2018-02-19T17:19:36 < Laurenceb> that meme was old in 1900
2018-02-19T17:19:38 < dongs> ya the amount of retarded languages they have in lunix
2018-02-19T17:19:40 < qyx> ok, buying F031G6UF instead of F042G6U6
2018-02-19T17:20:40 < dongs> typical lunix package boasts how many shitty languages they got translated into
2018-02-19T17:20:50 < dongs> never mind that nobody actually uses it
2018-02-19T17:22:30 < Rob235> should I go with glass + hairspray or PEI?
2018-02-19T17:23:48 < Laurenceb> ok apparently the device for boot loader installation is simply the device
2018-02-19T17:23:52 < Laurenceb> this had better work
2018-02-19T17:24:08 < Laurenceb> Choose /dev/sda (hard disk's master boot record) otherwise the computer will boot directly to Windows
2018-02-19T17:24:14 < Laurenceb> a horrifying outcome
2018-02-19T17:24:34 < dongs> i hope you dont have any data you wanna keep in windows
2018-02-19T17:24:46 < Laurenceb> nah its a fresh install
2018-02-19T17:26:34 < qyx> if I were a pro I would use windows
2018-02-19T17:26:57 < Laurenceb> wtf location fonder
2018-02-19T17:27:01 < Laurenceb> this is all broken
2018-02-19T17:27:42 < Laurenceb> now it think im in Addis Abba-bar
2018-02-19T17:28:03 < Laurenceb> Herat, Afghanistan
2018-02-19T17:28:12 < Laurenceb> the home of lunix development
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2018-02-19T17:31:57 < Laurenceb> >installing language packs...
2018-02-19T17:32:03 < Laurenceb> that may take some time
2018-02-19T17:32:28 < srk> what kind of pro distro you're installing? :D
2018-02-19T17:32:28 < dongs> -when I used to use lunix like 15 years ago i woudl always build shit with --disable-nls
2018-02-19T17:32:33 < dongs> because NOBODY FUCKING CARES
2018-02-19T17:32:54 < dongs> it also broke some stuff
2018-02-19T17:32:58 < dongs> so that shit would just get deleted
2018-02-19T17:33:01 < dongs> instead
2018-02-19T17:33:17 < dongs> can't support not showing your interface in afrikaans? don't belong on my system, then
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2018-02-19T17:34:59 < Laurenceb> yay it works
2018-02-19T17:35:05 < Laurenceb> fastest install evar
2018-02-19T17:36:37 < tomeaton17> Even after 20 minutes kicad seems like a childs toy compared to altium
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2018-02-19T17:36:46 < dongs> haha
2018-02-19T17:36:52 < dongs> tomeaton17: ikr. why do they even bother
2018-02-19T17:37:00 < dongs> they could literally spend their time better by getting jobs at altium
2018-02-19T17:37:09 < dongs> entire kikecad crew
2018-02-19T17:39:36 < tomeaton17> I used to like kicad because it was completely free but now I have altium for free...
2018-02-19T17:44:12 < karlp> except you are limited to the terms of your student license
2018-02-19T17:44:16 < karlp> this is not really the same thing.
2018-02-19T17:45:22 < srk> you can't even flip the board in kicad! who can live without animations
2018-02-19T17:45:50 < Kerr-A> dongs: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15830 lol
2018-02-19T17:46:28 < dongs> Kerr-A: yes eaxctly shit like that
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2018-02-19T17:47:34 < tomeaton17> Well I am not using it for commercial purposes anyway so it doesnt really matter
2018-02-19T17:47:46 < srk> :D
2018-02-19T17:48:11 < srk> they've got you already
2018-02-19T17:48:20 < srk> gonna pay some kidnies later
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2018-02-19T18:13:42 < Laurenceb> yay audacity compilation fails
2018-02-19T18:13:48 < Laurenceb> never saw that one coming
2018-02-19T18:14:59 < karlp> why the _fuck_ do you need to recompile audacity?!
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2018-02-19T18:15:22 < Laurenceb> cuz latest version
2018-02-19T18:15:23 < dongs> he wants to build it with --disable-nls
2018-02-19T18:15:37 < karlp> tomeaton17: not today, but maybe later when you want to start working, and realise you're staring down the barrel of "hoho, pay us the fullllll price for altium, or relearn things again"
2018-02-19T18:15:40 < Laurenceb> lv2 directory is missing
2018-02-19T18:15:44 < Laurenceb> wtf even is that
2018-02-19T18:15:53 < dongs> karlp: that argument is not valid
2018-02-19T18:16:02 < dongs> karlp: when you start a proper job, you better off just pay for altium
2018-02-19T18:16:14 < Laurenceb>  *not an argument*
2018-02-19T18:16:15 < dongs> the downgrade to kikecad & friends is just not worth it
2018-02-19T18:16:31 < tomeaton17> I assume when I start a proper job the company will pay for altium for me unless I work freelance
2018-02-19T18:16:49 < Laurenceb> lv2: no such file or directory
2018-02-19T18:16:53 < Laurenceb> I can teven right now
2018-02-19T18:16:57 < karlp> dongs: depends how many boards you're making IMO
2018-02-19T18:17:09 < dongs> karlp: at a company that makes profit?
2018-02-19T18:17:18 < karlp> some people make more than jsut boards.
2018-02-19T18:17:23 < karlp> some boards need more than just assembly.
2018-02-19T18:17:25 < dongs> altium isnt even all that expensive in the overall scheme of things
2018-02-19T18:18:09 < tomeaton17> Well I am going to be starting university for the next 4 years so doubt it will be a problem for a while
2018-02-19T18:20:21 < tct> dongs +1
2018-02-19T18:20:39 < tct> purchasing altium is one of the best decisions ever made
2018-02-19T18:20:48 < tct> except for the fact that you'll have no money afterwards
2018-02-19T18:20:55 < karlp> does it run on linux or osx yet? ;)
2018-02-19T18:21:04 < dongs> why would it run on 2 things that do not matter
2018-02-19T18:21:08  * karlp laughs
2018-02-19T18:25:27 < dongs> i donno man
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2018-02-19T18:41:30 < srk> probably runs directx xD
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2018-02-19T18:43:26 < dongs> wow is ohsix gone
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2018-02-19T19:03:24 < Laurenceb> woah
2018-02-19T19:03:30 < Laurenceb> it only freaking compiled
2018-02-19T19:03:42 < Laurenceb> but now make install has no effect
2018-02-19T19:03:52 < Laurenceb> lunix always delivers some fail in the end
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2018-02-19T19:10:30 < dongs> hm USBH_CtlReq responds with USBH_BUSY
2018-02-19T19:10:30 < dongs> great.
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2018-02-19T19:13:07 < dongs> Call USBH_CtlReq() repeatedly while it returns USBH_BUSY according to german forum.
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2018-02-19T19:15:50 < Laurenceb> is this cube?
2018-02-19T19:15:58 < dongs> no. haha.
2018-02-19T19:16:34 < Laurenceb> woah audacity is wurking
2018-02-19T19:16:41 < Laurenceb> wtf I have 32 microphones
2018-02-19T19:16:47 < Laurenceb> nsa confirmed
2018-02-19T19:17:39 < Laurenceb> woah
2018-02-19T19:17:47 < Laurenceb> at least 8 of them are real
2018-02-19T19:18:29 < Laurenceb> wtf are lenovo doing
2018-02-19T19:18:58 < Laurenceb> I wondered why this laptop is covered in little holes
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2018-02-19T19:20:17 < dongs> wtf i dont understand this fucking things programming model
2018-02-19T19:20:37 < Laurenceb> looks like there is internal dsp and you see "virtual" channels with noise reduction/steering etc
2018-02-19T19:20:48 < Laurenceb> pretty sweet
2018-02-19T19:20:55 < dongs> since when does lunix support audio
2018-02-19T19:20:57 < dongs> never mind recording it
2018-02-19T19:21:05 < dongs> and still has no kernel audio mixer
2018-02-19T19:21:06 < Laurenceb> since I compile audacity from source
2018-02-19T19:21:16 < dongs> so you have to write some C++ garbage written by poettering
2018-02-19T19:21:21 < dongs> that adds like 2second latency to all audio
2018-02-19T19:21:23 < Laurenceb> correct
2018-02-19T19:21:40 < Laurenceb> dongs what usb drivers codez are u using?
2018-02-19T19:21:49 < dongs> usb-fs lib from st
2018-02-19T19:21:59 < dongs> there is zero docs on any of it
2018-02-19T19:22:02 < Laurenceb> ikr
2018-02-19T19:22:10 < dongs> and im doing usb host
2018-02-19T19:22:14 < Laurenceb> oh wow
2018-02-19T19:22:15 < dongs> which means tehres even LESS docs
2018-02-19T19:22:16 < Laurenceb> not fun
2018-02-19T19:22:27 < dongs> it enumerated device
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2018-02-19T19:22:32 < dongs> and got descriptors and shit
2018-02-19T19:22:34 < Laurenceb> I'm shocked
2018-02-19T19:22:46 < dongs> i just have no fucking idea how to actually talk to it within the framework
2018-02-19T19:22:49 < Laurenceb> apparently it cant even support hubs
2018-02-19T19:22:52 < dongs> trying to do a control transfer
2018-02-19T19:22:55 < dongs> doesnt matter
2018-02-19T19:23:01 < dongs> if I end up doing this wiht STM, it will be dierct connection
2018-02-19T19:23:05 < dongs> stm->usb device
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2018-02-19T19:23:22 < Laurenceb> chibios can support hubs but its otherwise about as bad
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2018-02-19T19:23:57 < dongs> http://www.chibios.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4060
2018-02-19T19:24:45 < sync> dongs: I once had to add dual device support for an stm32f4 host
2018-02-19T19:24:51 < sync> >9001% aids
2018-02-19T19:25:07 < dongs> you mean 2 devices behind a hub?
2018-02-19T19:25:11 < dongs> or a device with 2 interfaces
2018-02-19T19:26:06 < sync> two devices behind a hub
2018-02-19T19:26:10 < Laurenceb> chibios suffers from opesores syndrome
2018-02-19T19:26:14 < Laurenceb> no docs
2018-02-19T19:26:19 < Laurenceb> totally unlike st...
2018-02-19T19:26:32 < sync> le source is the documentation
2018-02-19T19:26:59 < Laurenceb> I was going to use stm32 host for memes sensor datalogging
2018-02-19T19:27:05 < Laurenceb> but then I got told to use Rpi
2018-02-19T19:27:10 < Laurenceb> not sure which is more fail
2018-02-19T19:28:18 < dongs> i dont understand how to make this shit work. its not submitting my control transfer.
2018-02-19T19:28:56 < dongs> number of google hits for USBH_CtlReq are like literalyl zero
2018-02-19T19:29:03 < dongs> outside of copypasted stdperiph codez
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2018-02-19T19:40:36 < Laurenceb> http://i.imgur.com/plz82mh.jpg
2018-02-19T19:47:25 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abnkV6ROzkY
2018-02-19T19:47:30 < Laurenceb> a u t i s m
2018-02-19T19:50:53 < zyp> 17:20:55 < karlp> does it run on linux or osx yet? ;)
2018-02-19T19:51:01 < zyp> runs just fine in vmware
2018-02-19T19:52:29 < dongs>       /* Commands successfully sent and Response Received  */
2018-02-19T19:52:29 < dongs>       phost->RequestState = CMD_SEND;
2018-02-19T19:52:29 < dongs>       status = USBH_NOT_SUPPORTED;
2018-02-19T19:52:38 < dongs> how is that successful?
2018-02-19T19:52:49 < zyp> oh, that's like the error I got the other day
2018-02-19T19:53:00 < zyp> rpc.statd[30510]: Failed to read /var/lib/nfs/state: Success
2018-02-19T19:53:08 < dongs> ah yes, gotta love those.
2018-02-19T19:53:11 < dongs> fucking errrno() trash
2018-02-19T19:53:22 < dongs> same when GetLastError() on windows returns 0
2018-02-19T19:53:29 < dongs> and dicks print it without checking
2018-02-19T19:54:29 < dongs> i guess to progress further i need to stick usb analyzer on this
2018-02-19T19:54:53 < zyp> that tends to help
2018-02-19T19:55:09 < dongs> i cant stand how ST code has whitespace at the end of lines
2018-02-19T19:55:12 < dongs> in random places
2018-02-19T19:55:17 < dongs> FUCKING HOW CAN YOU NOT NOTICE THIS
2018-02-19T19:55:27 < zyp> shitty editors?
2018-02-19T19:55:31 < sync> yes dongs
2018-02-19T19:55:40 < sync> and they push updates in the hal that remove and sometimes add them
2018-02-19T19:55:47 < dongs> Lol
2018-02-19T19:55:49 < sync> made my git explode at some point
2018-02-19T19:56:25 < dongs> sync how the fuck did you ever make hostlib w ork
2018-02-19T19:56:27 < dongs> this thing is such a mess
2018-02-19T19:56:56 < sync> yes
2018-02-19T19:57:04 < sync> I raged for three weeks or so
2018-02-19T19:57:08 < sync> and then it somehow worked
2018-02-19T19:59:24 < Steffanx> time to buy pro segger lib
2018-02-19T20:00:00 < zyp> at this rate I could probably add host support to laks in less time than you spend fucking around with that shit
2018-02-19T20:00:30 < dongs> and it'd be jsut as useless to me as ST hostlib :)
2018-02-19T20:02:43 < zyp> sure, but at least my shit would work :p
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2018-02-19T20:07:55 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/SYYXjyS.png what did i fail
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2018-02-19T20:10:58 < dongs> apparently nak on a IN transfer means device has 'no data to send'
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2018-02-19T20:13:42 < zyp> no
2018-02-19T20:13:48 < zyp> it means «not ready to send yet»
2018-02-19T20:13:56 < dongs> yah but it never sends any.
2018-02-19T20:14:24 < zyp> are you talking about control or bulk now?
2018-02-19T20:14:38 < dongs> control
2018-02-19T20:14:57 < dongs> http://www.beyondlogic.org/usbnutshell/usb4.shtml#Control
2018-02-19T20:15:05 < dongs> i guess I'm in the data/IN stage
2018-02-19T20:15:05 < zyp> control transfers will time out in five seconds or so if they keep NAKing
2018-02-19T20:15:12 < dongs> less than that
2018-02-19T20:15:19 < dongs> it times out in few 100ms or so
2018-02-19T20:15:20 < zyp> depends on the host, but yeah
2018-02-19T20:15:32 < dongs> the operation doesnt take that long
2018-02-19T20:16:11 < zyp> either way, timing out on NAK is a fuckup
2018-02-19T20:17:21 < dongs> it returns that unsupported shit if endpoint stalls
2018-02-19T20:17:26 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-19T20:17:26 < zyp> a control read should either return the data you asked for, an empty data packet if it has nothing to give you, or a STALL handshake to signal you fucked up the request
2018-02-19T20:17:49 < zyp> a NAK is a «ok, hang on»
2018-02-19T20:21:18 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/ndMzKJb.png so it stalls after like 1.7ms
2018-02-19T20:22:33 < dongs> i dont have a way to test this shit on PC cuz on PC stuff enumerates as highspeed
2018-02-19T20:22:36 < dongs> heh
2018-02-19T20:23:05 < dongs> i tossed that delayextreme USB "2.0" hub
2018-02-19T20:23:08 < dongs> that was a fullspeed hub
2018-02-19T20:24:13 < Laurenceb> What's black and sits at the top of the stairs?
2018-02-19T20:24:20 < Laurenceb> Stephen Hawking after a house fire
2018-02-19T20:24:25 < zyp> you can force pc host into FS, I think, but I don't know how
2018-02-19T20:24:27 < karlp> hehe, yeah, I got one of those last year. usb 2.0 compliant, fs only.
2018-02-19T20:24:57 < zyp> dongs, oh, okay, so device STALLs
2018-02-19T20:25:08 < zyp> that probably means you made an illegal/invalid request
2018-02-19T20:25:32 < zyp> the NAKs before it stalls is flow control
2018-02-19T20:26:06 < dongs> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/311556/force-usb-device-to-run-in-full-speed-mode/311561#311561 lol @ capacitor between DP/DM
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2018-02-19T20:32:23 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/965335111150452736
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2018-02-19T20:35:11 < dongs> as far as I can tell request is legit
2018-02-19T20:35:18 < dongs> i have same shit working on windows
2018-02-19T20:36:18 < dongs> its a vendor request, direction from device, (so bmRequest is 0xC0), and it expects a one byte reply
2018-02-19T20:39:11 < dongs> fuckit, almsot 4am, will hookup my usb analyzer tomrorow and compre with what happens in HS mode
2018-02-19T20:39:47 < dongs> apparently my scope can do highspeed but i need a differential probe for it
2018-02-19T20:39:49 < dongs> which i dont have.
2018-02-19T20:39:51 < dongs> so fuck that.
2018-02-19T20:41:06 < sync> do you really need a diff probe? I would guess that the regular probes are fine
2018-02-19T20:41:47 < dongs> it grays out singleended option
2018-02-19T20:41:50 < dongs> in highspeed mode
2018-02-19T20:42:04 < dongs> so i guess yes.
2018-02-19T20:44:24 < sync> oh
2018-02-19T20:59:31 < dongs> holy shit it works
2018-02-19T20:59:42 < dongs> problem was;
2018-02-19T21:00:12 < dongs> st did this retarded union
2018-02-19T21:00:18 < dongs> for wValue and wIndex
2018-02-19T21:00:29 < dongs> where you can do wValue.b.msb = foo and .lsb = foo
2018-02-19T21:00:50 < dongs> since I knew which ends my shit needed to bein, i figured ill use msb/lsb and save myself some shifting
2018-02-19T21:01:06 < dongs> apparently .msb in that shit means it ends up in actual LSB of the wWvalue
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2018-02-19T21:04:30 < via> has anyone seen sck output from the stm32f4-discovery (pin pb13) look like parts are truncated or just wrong? like https://imgur.com/a/52jId
2018-02-19T21:04:46 < dongs> yes
2018-02-19T21:04:53 < dongs> youre failing to wait for SPI transfer to end
2018-02-19T21:05:06 < via> before doing what? i'm letting dma control it
2018-02-19T21:05:31 < dongs> that spacing aint DMA
2018-02-19T21:05:39 < dongs> unless you're sending one byte at a time
2018-02-19T21:05:45 < via> its 8 bit transfers
2018-02-19T21:05:47 < dongs> and tearing down DMA betwen each one
2018-02-19T21:05:47 < via> i think
2018-02-19T21:05:53 < via> 10 of them
2018-02-19T21:06:10 < via> let me double check
2018-02-19T21:06:14 < dongs> ive never seen DMA tarnsfer with spaces in between, thats the whole point that it clocks out wihtout pause
2018-02-19T21:06:19 < via> well
2018-02-19T21:06:24 < via> i'm driving the dma trigger with a timer
2018-02-19T21:06:33 < qyx> waht
2018-02-19T21:06:40 < via> to fetch a 8 bit word every x uS
2018-02-19T21:07:04 < qyx> and how do you de-assert your cs?
2018-02-19T21:07:18 < via> i don't, the chip doesn't need it, i handle it in software and keep it low
2018-02-19T21:07:29 < via> only at initialization do i give it a high-low transition
2018-02-19T21:07:53 < qyx> until your sync is lost
2018-02-19T21:08:35 < via> well, right
2018-02-19T21:08:46 < via> hence me trying to debug why its stopping short
2018-02-19T21:08:54 < via> i'm double checking my configuration
2018-02-19T21:09:43 < via> nope, i'm supposed to be doing 16 bit transmissions, i'll slow down my timer significantly and see what happens
2018-02-19T21:14:40 < via> i sped up my spi clock enough so that i can see all 16 bits go by with huge gaps (more than the 16 clks take) between them, but some are still truncated to just a few clocks
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2018-02-19T22:47:08 < invzim> man, the winter sale popup on ali is driving me nutters
2018-02-19T22:50:32 < zyp> adblock it?
2018-02-19T22:52:40 < invzim> hopefully it will go away when people get back from vacation in a few days
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2018-02-19T23:05:15 < via> i can reproduce my issue with no dma or anything, just setting SPI2_DR once every few ms
2018-02-19T23:05:23 < via> sometimes only 10-12 clocks come out and it looks truncated
2018-02-19T23:15:39 < invzim> utsource officially dodgy
2018-02-19T23:17:56 < karlp> we've had heaps more chinese here on holidays last couple of weeks
2018-02-19T23:18:16 < jpa-> via: that usually happens if you change SPI settings while it is enabled
2018-02-19T23:18:45 < jpa-> (baudrate / format / phase / polarity)
2018-02-19T23:19:23 < jpa-> you also get funny stuff if you do 16-bit writes when SPI is configured in 8-bit mode, but i don't think it causes that kind of weirdness
2018-02-19T23:19:42 < via> jpa-: i'm not doing anything other than setting spi2_dr after initializaiton, but i'll look around
2018-02-19T23:20:07 < jpa-> make sure that SPE is the last thing in initialization that you do
2018-02-19T23:21:30 < invzim> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ljlRG6Suj5aTC3Ex1
2018-02-19T23:22:06 < invzim> isl59885 are badly pulled parts, th elm2662M's are re-taped (differnt date codes)
2018-02-19T23:23:54 < karlp> 4huh, I think I managed to blow up a usb port on my monitor
2018-02-19T23:24:40 < karlp> I wonder how the fuck that happend.
2018-02-19T23:25:27 < karlp> the hub in btween is fine
2018-02-19T23:26:02 < invzim> karlp: you used it to source power to a dodgy maker project, possibly your own? :)
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2018-02-19T23:26:26 < karlp> well, yes, but it was already powered up and working when it left the office
2018-02-19T23:26:35 < karlp> just carried it hoome and plugged it in
2018-02-19T23:27:20 < karlp> still would have thought the hub would get upset first
2018-02-19T23:27:26 < karlp> and the hub was even powered
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2018-02-20T00:03:39 < karlp> hrm, power supply for the hub is dead,
2018-02-20T00:03:46 < karlp> I wonder if that was what killed it?
2018-02-20T00:03:49  * karlp shrugs
2018-02-20T00:03:53 < karlp> boards working fine.
2018-02-20T00:04:05 < karlp> bit sucky if the port on the monitor's dead though
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2018-02-20T00:43:10 < Rob235> what kinda feet should I print for a 3d printer
2018-02-20T00:43:47 < jef79m> wooden ones
2018-02-20T00:45:14  * karlp giggles
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2018-02-20T00:52:53 < kakimir> now I know why my neighbour leaves his/hers appartment when I pump
2018-02-20T00:53:23 < kakimir> apparently walls are not that thick
2018-02-20T00:54:18 < kakimir> I was watching talk show withm my earphones on
2018-02-20T00:54:38 < kakimir> i hear knocking to my wall
2018-02-20T00:57:03 < kakimir> I need to move
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2018-02-20T01:00:13 < Laurenceb_> muh GPS
2018-02-20T01:00:15 < Laurenceb_> muh Dashcam
2018-02-20T01:00:46 < unsubscribedandf> hello
2018-02-20T01:01:17 < Laurenceb_> Hungary O_o
2018-02-20T01:01:27 < Laurenceb_> bad memories
2018-02-20T01:01:44 < unsubscribedandf> gypsies?
2018-02-20T01:02:04 < Laurenceb_> tinder
2018-02-20T01:02:12 < unsubscribedandf> gypsies
2018-02-20T01:02:59 < Laurenceb_> heh she wasnt swarthy enough
2018-02-20T01:04:11 < unsubscribedandf> it doesnt matter anymore, there are whiteish gypsies
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2018-02-20T01:05:28 < Laurenceb_> this makes it even worse
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2018-02-20T01:06:23 < Laurenceb_> used as a human dildo
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2018-02-20T01:49:06  * Laurenceb_ is watching http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1235170/
2018-02-20T01:49:08 < Laurenceb_> dis is good
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2018-02-20T03:04:56 < dongs> sup dongs
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2018-02-20T03:22:03 < Laurenceb_> le tiny amount of sleep dongs
2018-02-20T03:22:45 < Laurenceb_> http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/713388-back-to-the-future
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2018-02-20T03:31:42 < dongs> Laurenceb_: well i gotta try and see how far I can make that usb host break
2018-02-20T03:32:01 < Laurenceb_> benchmarks pls
2018-02-20T03:32:10 < Laurenceb_> but I cant use it unless hub support works :(
2018-02-20T03:32:12 < dongs> https://github.com/deeppomf/DeepMindBreak found Laurence/b/ project
2018-02-20T03:32:40 < Laurenceb_> kekking
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2018-02-20T04:17:06 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42978.3020
2018-02-20T04:17:19 < Laurenceb_> they are still unironically shitposting
2018-02-20T04:17:35 < Laurenceb_> how long now? 4 years? 5?
2018-02-20T04:18:39 < Laurenceb_> >aero at the bottom
2018-02-20T04:18:45 < Laurenceb_> a u t i s m
2018-02-20T04:19:34 < Laurenceb_> >over 5000 pages of emdrive and not a single thing has been built by anyone
2018-02-20T04:34:16 < dongs> http://ataribits.weebly.com/1088xel.html wow such autism
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2018-02-20T04:45:06 < unsubscribedandf> [00:47] <Laurenceb_> dis is good - yeah assuming the girl is obsessed with that animal and the guy gets sick of it, that will definitely change their future
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2018-02-20T04:51:08 < dongs> wait wat
2018-02-20T04:51:17 < dongs> someone unironically answering laurence/b/ trolling
2018-02-20T05:10:45 < dongs> how can i check if a function im currently in is executing from IRQ context vs normal
2018-02-20T05:11:08 < dongs> theres probably a bit somewhere right
2018-02-20T05:13:37 < unsubscribedandf> ;>
2018-02-20T05:13:45 < unsubscribedandf> laurence/b/
2018-02-20T05:16:26 < dongs> looks like SCB->ICSR
2018-02-20T05:16:34 < dongs> and its not
2018-02-20T05:16:49 < dongs> i donno how the fuck to wrap my head around this hostlib unless I add some kinda rtos
2018-02-20T05:17:48 < dongs> everything is done async and i need to write silly state machines to do anything
2018-02-20T05:23:52 < dongs> hnm there's RTX5 now
2018-02-20T05:23:56 < dongs> on shithub
2018-02-20T05:24:01 < dongs> i wonder how much work it is to implement
2018-02-20T05:25:42 < johntramp> i have a ringbuffer for incoming sensor data and would like to allocate all free ram to it. currently I am just increasing the buffer size until the linker complains. is there a smarter way to do this?
2018-02-20T05:29:02 < dongs> http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php attn crt/stvn
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2018-02-20T05:54:35 < dongs> that was easy
2018-02-20T05:54:46 < dongs> i have rtx running and surprise! keil has full thread view support under local vars
2018-02-20T05:54:57 < dongs> so i can see which thread is doing wat
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2018-02-20T06:19:07 < R0b0t1> If anyone has any idea on https://cygwin.com/ml/newlib/2018/msg00146.html please comment
2018-02-20T06:22:37 < dongs> newlib? more like jewlib
2018-02-20T06:25:20 < upgrdman> those "Aspie Quiz related publications" titles... such lol
2018-02-20T06:25:50 < upgrdman> Leif Ekblad (2016). Human courtship : How does exhibitionism and stranger harassment relate to neurodiversity Research Gate December 2016, Open access article
2018-02-20T06:26:09 < dongs> laurence/b/ in a nutshell
2018-02-20T06:26:16 < dongs> stranger harrasment
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2018-02-20T07:44:50 < kakimir> hello stiffs
2018-02-20T07:46:12 < Ultrasauce> i am very pliable thank you
2018-02-20T07:54:10 < kakimir> weirdly so am I
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2018-02-20T08:35:05 < kakimir> should I shower
2018-02-20T08:37:48 < kakimir> okay
2018-02-20T08:39:49 < kakimir> anuthing else?
2018-02-20T08:41:27 < dongs> < dongs> http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php attn crt/stvn
2018-02-20T08:41:56 < kakimir> they don let me do LEDs yet
2018-02-20T08:43:24 < dongs> no im busy fucking with usb
2018-02-20T08:43:57 < dongs> gave up on that
2018-02-20T08:57:02 < dongs> stoner
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2018-02-20T10:23:40 < zyp> no
2018-02-20T10:24:34 < zyp> hi crt
2018-02-20T10:24:50 < Steffanx> Is zyp self-employed nowadays? You seem so active lately
2018-02-20T10:25:06 < zyp> no, I'm at work
2018-02-20T10:25:24 < zyp> sure
2018-02-20T10:25:32 < Steffanx> Oh ##stm32 is more interesting ofcourse :D
2018-02-20T10:25:57 < Steffanx> My offering?
2018-02-20T10:31:18 < invzim> something fishy with my altium - open schematic library file at location x=empty, open it from licaty y=works
2018-02-20T10:31:25 < invzim> same file
2018-02-20T10:32:15 < invzim> where did licaty come from :)
2018-02-20T10:40:36 < dongs> wat
2018-02-20T10:42:26 < jadew> what filaments should I buy for my printer?
2018-02-20T10:42:32 < dongs> none
2018-02-20T10:42:39 < dongs> you should throw it away
2018-02-20T10:43:03 < Steffanx> I bet any none china pla will work, jadew
2018-02-20T10:43:32 < dongs> why not china
2018-02-20T10:43:34 < jadew> Steffanx, where do I get that from? are they found on eBay?
2018-02-20T10:43:49 < Steffanx> I meant: i wouldnt ebay or aliexpress it
2018-02-20T10:43:56 < Steffanx> But thats just me
2018-02-20T10:44:11 < jadew> I see
2018-02-20T10:44:20 < jadew> well, if I buy them locally, they're going to be from aliexpress
2018-02-20T10:44:32 < jadew> where do you buy yours from?
2018-02-20T10:44:35 < zyp> check for a local source first, filament is heavy
2018-02-20T10:44:44 < jadew> hmm, good point
2018-02-20T10:44:49 < jadew> I got the prusa mk2s btw
2018-02-20T10:44:56 < R0b0t1> dongs: Is there anything besides newlib? Musl?
2018-02-20T10:45:47 < jadew> crt, seems to be the only one in this price range that's supposed to work out of the box
2018-02-20T10:45:48 < Steffanx> I only use Real (dutch) filament atm
2018-02-20T10:45:56 < Steffanx> Bought locally.
2018-02-20T10:46:17 < jadew> I'll check what's available in here
2018-02-20T10:46:18 < PaulFertser> jadew: we have local plastic manufacturers in ru, probably there're some in RO too?
2018-02-20T10:46:33 < Steffanx> Poland makes filament too.
2018-02-20T10:46:34 < PaulFertser> They are cheaper and better than chinese.
2018-02-20T10:46:35 < jadew> PaulFertser, possible
2018-02-20T10:46:43 < dongs> hm,m
2018-02-20T10:47:41 < jadew> ok, so locally 1 kg of filament costs $30 and up - is that reasonable?
2018-02-20T10:48:04 < zyp> PLA? sounds a bit high but not totally unreasonable
2018-02-20T10:48:21 < invzim> werks again
2018-02-20T10:48:41 < invzim> looks like it was the google sync/backup thingie
2018-02-20T10:48:56 < PaulFertser> Some moscow plant sells pla for 9 EUR per kg :)
2018-02-20T10:49:10 < Steffanx> Wut.
2018-02-20T10:49:30 < zyp> actually, $30/kg for PLA is around what it'd cost me as well
2018-02-20T10:49:30 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: https://www.fdplast.ru/plastik-dlya-3d-printera/
2018-02-20T10:49:54 < zyp> from a norwegian supplier
2018-02-20T10:49:55 < Steffanx> There is redlib, R0b0t1
2018-02-20T10:50:36 < jadew> I have to scout around a bit more, I'm sure I can find it cheaper
2018-02-20T10:52:40 < R0b0t1> I don't think I can support communism, Steffanx
2018-02-20T11:00:51 < Steffanx> Its owned by nxp nowadays, i think, R0b0t1
2018-02-20T11:01:10 < Steffanx> Not sure if you are even allowed to use it on non-nxp products
2018-02-20T11:02:02 < Steffanx> I wouldnt go ultra cheap. It can also be a bit of a journey to find the right filament for you/the job
2018-02-20T11:02:06 < Steffanx> Mr jadew
2018-02-20T11:02:31 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah... I just want a white one for now
2018-02-20T11:02:50 < jadew> it comes with a silver one and you can't print many useful things with that
2018-02-20T11:03:47 < jadew> does the thickness matter?
2018-02-20T11:04:17 < Steffanx> Yes.
2018-02-20T11:04:32 < jadew> thinner is better?
2018-02-20T11:04:54 < Steffanx> Main question: what does your printer support
2018-02-20T11:05:08 < Steffanx> Mine is built around 1.75mm
2018-02-20T11:05:19 < jadew> ah, I see
2018-02-20T11:06:42 < jadew> 0,4mm nozzle (easily changeable) for 1,75 mm filament
2018-02-20T11:06:50 < jadew> what does that mean? I need 0.4mm filament?
2018-02-20T11:08:20 < zyp> it means that the hole in the nozzle is 0.4mm
2018-02-20T11:08:42 < jadew> got it, so 1.75 mm filament
2018-02-20T11:08:48 < zyp> yes
2018-02-20T11:08:52 < jadew> thanks
2018-02-20T11:09:13 < jadew> can't find white PLA at a good price
2018-02-20T11:09:31 < zyp> your nozzle has a 1.75mm input diameter and a 0.4mm output diameter
2018-02-20T11:10:00 < zyp> you find equivalent nozzles with 3mm input diameter for when the rest of your filament path is 3mm
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2018-02-20T11:17:51 < stvn> sniff a cock
2018-02-20T11:20:15 < Ultrasauce> me 2
2018-02-20T11:20:29 < stvn> lol wrong window
2018-02-20T11:20:38 < Ultrasauce> wops misclick
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2018-02-20T11:34:19 < dongs> iFbw_3db = (int32_t)((float)bs * 1.35f / 1.6f) + 4000;
2018-02-20T11:34:23 < dongs> how can I do this without floats?
2018-02-20T11:35:21 < Steffanx> Multiple floats by x, divide afterwards by x?
2018-02-20T11:35:24 < jadew> (bs * 135 / 160) + 4000
2018-02-20T11:35:32 < Steffanx> Or that
2018-02-20T11:35:46 < dongs> wow the number is like same
2018-02-20T11:35:48 < zyp> 1.35/1.6 equals 0.84375, so * 84375 / 100000 would be exact
2018-02-20T11:35:58  * stvn distributes stroopwafels to all
2018-02-20T11:36:14 < zyp> well, until you overflow
2018-02-20T11:36:28 < dongs> input range is 0 to 45000
2018-02-20T11:36:45 < dongs> i think at 45k its still below max_uint32
2018-02-20T11:36:46 < zyp> hmm, jadew's suggestion should also be exact
2018-02-20T11:37:02 < dongs> yeah i like his better
2018-02-20T11:37:06 < zyp> me too
2018-02-20T11:37:11 < dongs> considering the shit is casted to int at the end, its probly better
2018-02-20T11:40:44 < stvn> https://xkcd.com/26/
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2018-02-20T11:48:38 < dongs> k result confirmed same
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2018-02-20T12:00:55 < karlp> why is R0b0t1 building newlib themselves?
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2018-02-20T12:03:25 < stvn> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux%20build%20instructions
2018-02-20T12:03:29 < stvn> fuck this for a joke
2018-02-20T12:04:47 < stvn> should i even attempt this
2018-02-20T12:05:33 < R0b0t1> I am trying to fix a program that generates toolchains karlp
2018-02-20T12:06:00 < tomeaton17> do it stvn
2018-02-20T12:06:08 < stvn> hmm
2018-02-20T12:06:27 < stvn> now because it makes a kernel module i need the kernel paedophiles
2018-02-20T12:06:32 < stvn> i mean header files
2018-02-20T12:06:48 < karlp> R0b0t1: and.... why are you doing that? :)
2018-02-20T12:07:08 < R0b0t1> Because the program is useful and I don't trust the prebuilt toolchains
2018-02-20T12:07:21 < karlp> well, have fun then :)
2018-02-20T12:07:36 < R0b0t1> It's not fun, but it is necessary
2018-02-20T12:09:17 < karlp> https://media.giphy.com/media/a3zqvrH40Cdhu/giphy.gif
2018-02-20T12:09:46 < R0b0t1> I'm glad you believe in me karlp
2018-02-20T12:10:06 < stvn> i have to do this because ubuntu thinks nobody can afford a new coffee lake processor
2018-02-20T12:10:10 < stvn> because they are niggers
2018-02-20T12:10:10 < R0b0t1> It's the case that I am not very smart and have trouble in life
2018-02-20T12:10:23 < R0b0t1> Good night
2018-02-20T12:10:25 < karlp> well, you're not really doing anything to convince me :)
2018-02-20T12:10:28 < stvn> ty
2018-02-20T12:10:35 < karlp> sleep well
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2018-02-20T12:12:09 < stvn> my computer is melting
2018-02-20T12:14:54 < dongs> < karlp> why is R0b0t1 building newlib themselves?
2018-02-20T12:15:23 < dongs> the real question is how the fuck he can live with a homedir with MixedCaseAndL33TNumb3rs
2018-02-20T12:15:37 < Ultrasauce> tab?
2018-02-20T12:16:45 < dongs> too easy
2018-02-20T12:17:38 < stvn> why are there always 2 or more trolls present in #ubuntu
2018-02-20T12:17:52 < dongs> they're probably black
2018-02-20T12:17:55 < dongs> and/or gay
2018-02-20T12:17:58 < stvn> well
2018-02-20T12:17:59 < Ultrasauce> what you don't see is the zero width space after the b, and the null after the second 0
2018-02-20T12:18:00 < zyp> stvn, so you won't feel lonely
2018-02-20T12:18:00 < stvn> of course
2018-02-20T12:18:04 < stvn> they come hand in hand
2018-02-20T12:18:06 < stvn> ty zyp
2018-02-20T12:18:24 < dongs> i thought entire cahnnel was just trolls since nobody normal runs lunix
2018-02-20T12:18:35 < stvn> good insight
2018-02-20T12:18:40 < Ultrasauce> nobody normal is on freenode
2018-02-20T12:18:50 < Ultrasauce> or possibly irc
2018-02-20T12:18:52 < stvn> you've got that right
2018-02-20T12:18:55 < stvn> that too
2018-02-20T12:19:13 < stvn> easy to fit in
2018-02-20T12:21:23 < Ultrasauce> stm32 slack when? I wanna dedicate another gigabyte of my memory to other peoples' shitposts
2018-02-20T12:22:44 < dongs> please no
2018-02-20T12:22:55 < dongs> i wouldnt be against a telegram channel for stm32
2018-02-20T12:22:58 < dongs> there's one now but its full of pakis
2018-02-20T12:23:12 < dongs> but slack is javascript garbage
2018-02-20T12:23:25 < dongs> fucking 80meg install folder for a copy of chrome.exe
2018-02-20T12:23:31 < dongs> and wahtever teh fuck else electron/whatever needs
2018-02-20T12:23:33 < dongs> fuckign cancer
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2018-02-20T12:24:11 < Ultrasauce> but dongs won't you please think of the integrations
2018-02-20T12:24:17 < dongs>     fTemp = (float)iFbw_3db * 5.088f * 2 / 4000 - 1;
2018-02-20T12:24:17 < dongs>     iTemp = iFbw_3db * 5088 * 2 / 4000000 - 1;
2018-02-20T12:24:19 < dongs> how's this?
2018-02-20T12:24:32 < dongs> compile test seem to be same
2018-02-20T12:24:55 < zyp> should be
2018-02-20T12:25:50 < karlp> as long as the result of the div are in the size you expect to not get truncations that will hurt
2018-02-20T12:26:21 < stvn> this is all in gobbledygook!
2018-02-20T12:26:46 < dongs> yeah this ends up being a small number that goes into uint8
2018-02-20T12:26:47 < Ultrasauce> are you saving up all those cycles to mine IOTA in the background?
2018-02-20T12:27:14 < stvn> yeah wtf is going on here? is this a bitcoin channel now?
2018-02-20T12:27:16 < dongs> im writing shitcoin miner using cortex M4 DSP instructions
2018-02-20T12:27:24 < stvn> oh jesus fucking christ
2018-02-20T12:28:53 < stvn> over 9000 niggerflops
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2018-02-20T12:54:35 < stvn> the flogged badger
2018-02-20T12:54:43 < stvn> hi dr.blaxter
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2018-02-20T13:17:10 < perole> goddamn, j-link (clone) is a zillion times faster than the stlinkv2 chinesium clone I have
2018-02-20T13:17:52 < PaulFertser> For what operations?
2018-02-20T13:47:37 < karlp> guess they were trollin
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2018-02-20T14:12:18 < dongs> i need to do something on USB end to make it start sending shit to me isnt it?
2018-02-20T14:12:40 < zyp> in what sense?
2018-02-20T14:12:50 < dongs> i prepared my device to send some crap out from bulk
2018-02-20T14:12:55 < dongs> now i need to 'read' it;
2018-02-20T14:12:59 < dongs> i think i need to poll it somehow?
2018-02-20T14:13:20 < zyp> host hardware should do the polling, you just need to schedule a transfer
2018-02-20T14:13:37 < dongs> should I see it trying to send over the wire?
2018-02-20T14:14:01 < dongs> (if im not actively receiving
2018-02-20T14:14:35 < zyp> yes, when a transfer is scheduled, host hardware will keep polling by sending IN tokens until the transfer is completed
2018-02-20T14:15:07 < zyp> flow control will have the device replying with NAK tokens to each poll when it doesn't have data to send
2018-02-20T14:15:17 < dongs> so how do I 'schedule' it
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2018-02-20T14:15:39 < dongs> i have HCD_GetURB_State and USBH_BulkReceiveData
2018-02-20T14:16:43 < zyp> URB is "usb request something", which is basically a scheduled transfer
2018-02-20T14:17:04 < zyp> USBH_BulkReceiveData sounds like a function that creates a bulk IN URB
2018-02-20T14:17:37 < zyp> so I guess you call the latter to schedule the transfer and then poll the former to check if it completed
2018-02-20T14:17:46 < qyx> reading zypsnips ldos, seems like there is only one with low Iq
2018-02-20T14:18:04 < zyp> qyx, should make the choice easy then
2018-02-20T14:18:17 < qyx> it is $$$
2018-02-20T14:18:19 < qyx> tps709
2018-02-20T14:18:33 < dongs> anyway i think this STM plan isnt gonna work
2018-02-20T14:18:41 < zyp> aww
2018-02-20T14:18:44 < dongs> i forgot i need to do crypto on the shit i receive over usb
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2018-02-20T14:18:55 < dongs> that plus mp2 decoding
2018-02-20T14:19:09 < dongs> and none of this shit is DMA'ble
2018-02-20T14:22:13 < zyp> better get out the linux then
2018-02-20T14:27:18 < dongs> hm
2018-02-20T14:27:21 < dongs> i dont see it sending anything
2018-02-20T14:28:17 < zyp> are you scheduling transfers in a loop?
2018-02-20T14:28:32 < dongs> yeah i jsut have it doing that bulkreceive in my main usb thread
2018-02-20T14:28:40 < dongs> when its not doing other shit like control transfers or whatever
2018-02-20T14:29:04 < zyp> it doesn't have any useful return codes?
2018-02-20T14:29:22 < dongs> no haha it just returns USBH_OK
2018-02-20T14:29:24 < dongs> when it submits.
2018-02-20T14:29:31 < dongs> i mean, thats the only return of the function
2018-02-20T14:29:58 < zyp> idk then
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2018-02-20T14:30:30 < zyp> so, looking at bus activity, what tokens do you see? only SOF?
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2018-02-20T14:32:42 < dongs> nothing
2018-02-20T14:32:47 < dongs> beyond my initial control transfers
2018-02-20T14:32:49 < dongs> it just does idles
2018-02-20T14:33:14 < zyp> well, uh, you should see a SOF every millisecond
2018-02-20T14:33:23 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-20T14:33:24 < dongs> i do
2018-02-20T14:33:32 < dongs> thats the idle shit right
2018-02-20T14:33:57 < zyp> SOF is start of frame, it's sent at a fixed rate, useful for sync and shit
2018-02-20T14:34:14 < zyp> so it'll be there whether the bus is idle or not
2018-02-20T14:40:29 < tomeaton17> Does anyone else have a problem with altium in part search where it won't display cut tape packaging when searching digikey
2018-02-20T14:40:44 < dongs> wut
2018-02-20T14:40:51 < dongs> why the fuck would you use altidumb to search digikey
2018-02-20T14:40:56 < dongs> thats like the most fucking useless/slow part of it
2018-02-20T14:41:22 < dongs> learn to maintain your own libs, copypate shit out of vault where needed
2018-02-20T14:41:33 < dongs> but i find the crap in vault waaaaaaaaaaay to verbose and retarded
2018-02-20T14:41:48 < dongs> you don't need to specify a particular 0603 resistor for a project 99.9% of the time
2018-02-20T14:41:59 < dongs> but all that metadata slows shit down and makes your schematics look ugly
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2018-02-20T14:42:22 < tomeaton17> I dont use it to search digikey, but its nice for the specific ics I am using to have the data about it
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2018-02-20T14:59:12 < dongs> hm should I be able to set bulk in transfer size larger than fifo size?
2018-02-20T15:02:54 < Laurenceb> reee lunix
2018-02-20T15:02:58 < zyp> I think flow control will keep fifo from overflowing
2018-02-20T15:03:04 < Laurenceb> why is ntpstats not being generated
2018-02-20T15:03:14 < Laurenceb> dongs: have you benchmarked the throughput yet?
2018-02-20T15:03:38 < dongs> on what, i still can't get any bulk data to show up
2018-02-20T15:04:20 < dongs> i think i might be fucked, i recall long tiem ago when i was wrtiging windows driver for this, the device would fail to transfer unless transfer size was multiple of 256*packet_size
2018-02-20T15:08:27 < zyp> that doesn't make sense, device doesn't know what transfer size is
2018-02-20T15:09:59 < dongs> yea?
2018-02-20T15:12:07 < zyp> when device polls, it only asks for a packet, which can be up to a set size for the endpoint (64B for FS bulk)
2018-02-20T15:12:53 < Laurenceb> attn dongs https://twitter.com/JewishChron/status/965662276249444353
2018-02-20T15:12:56 < zyp> if the host code schedules a larger transfer, all that does is make host stack poll multiple times until the transfer is either filled or ended early
2018-02-20T15:13:32 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/v1Vu9YI.png hmm
2018-02-20T15:13:42 < dongs> i dont even see it trying to start a bulk IN
2018-02-20T15:13:43 < zyp> if the device sends a 256B transfer, it can't tell whether the host is reading it as two 128B transfers or one 256B transfer
2018-02-20T15:14:13 < dongs> zyp, but do i need to start a 256 byte transfer or say 25600 byte transfer, does that get sent to device?
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2018-02-20T15:14:48 < zyp> the size doesn't, but when you start the transfer, host should start polling by sending IN tokens
2018-02-20T15:15:03 < dongs> oh right and it polls until it gets teh size it wants>?
2018-02-20T15:15:05 < zyp> and it will keep polling until the transfer is either filled or ends early
2018-02-20T15:15:10 < dongs> OK
2018-02-20T15:15:10 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-20T15:15:20 < dongs> well shit isnt even trying to
2018-02-20T15:15:25 < dongs> fu king dumb hostlib
2018-02-20T15:15:47 < zyp> flow control will make the host stop polling when it's not ready to receive
2018-02-20T15:15:54 < zyp> i.e. if the host rxfifo is full
2018-02-20T15:16:05 < dongs> but it doesnt even try
2018-02-20T15:16:11 < dongs> so theres nothign to be full of i guess
2018-02-20T15:16:15 < dongs> thats entire capture
2018-02-20T15:16:22 < dongs> it never attempts to start a bulk transfer
2018-02-20T15:16:37 < zyp> dunno
2018-02-20T15:16:53 < zyp> I'd peek at the registers at this point, look what state they are in
2018-02-20T15:17:13 < zyp> check if fifo is sanely configured, check if the transfer is configured
2018-02-20T15:18:06 < zyp> I'm not sure exactly how they look, but I imagine they should be a reasonable mirror of how the device registers work
2018-02-20T15:18:26 < zyp> since the higher layer comms work similarly from both sides
2018-02-20T15:21:24 < dongs> time to compare with highspeed mode i guess
2018-02-20T15:21:33 < dongs> see if im missing somethign
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2018-02-20T15:30:18 < dongs> hm what's a vendor request IN
2018-02-20T15:32:02 < dongs> o wiat thats just control transaction
2018-02-20T15:32:48 < Laurenceb> how are you monitoring the usb traffic?
2018-02-20T15:34:27 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/KMM8Pmt.jpg
2018-02-20T15:34:51 < Laurenceb> oh pro
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2018-02-20T15:35:34 < dongs> ok so i dont see any special setup before in transfers
2018-02-20T15:35:38 < dongs> so im doing something wrong on hostlib side.
2018-02-20T15:44:46 < dongs> bEndpointAddress
2018-02-20T15:44:51 < dongs> 1 IN means 0x81 right?
2018-02-20T15:45:17 < qyx> whats that kawaii nucleo with ethernets
2018-02-20T15:45:25 < dongs> 429ZI
2018-02-20T15:45:29 < dongs> but its a standard 144pin nucleo
2018-02-20T15:45:39 < dongs> theres version with like 411 on it without the ethernet part
2018-02-20T15:45:45 < dongs> empty pads
2018-02-20T15:47:14 < dongs> wait shit
2018-02-20T15:47:19 < dongs> in fullspeed mode, max packet size is 64?
2018-02-20T15:47:21 < dongs> for bulk
2018-02-20T15:47:48 < dongs> i think thats the problem
2018-02-20T15:47:49 < dongs> lets see
2018-02-20T15:50:15 < dongs> score
2018-02-20T15:50:38 < dongs> at least something is happening
2018-02-20T15:51:22 < dongs> lol cute
2018-02-20T15:51:44 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/EBosFmO.png ???
2018-02-20T15:52:15 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-20T15:52:19 < dongs> 'incomplete in transaction'
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2018-02-20T16:10:30 < dongs> ok fuck this
2018-02-20T16:10:33 < dongs> it is not working
2018-02-20T16:10:41 < dongs> need to driev all day tomrorwo so fuck this
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2018-02-20T16:10:49 < Laurenceb> >driving
2018-02-20T16:10:55 < Laurenceb> >not using hyperloop
2018-02-20T16:11:39 < dongs> mybe i should have bene using keil usb library
2018-02-20T16:18:23 < englishman> where can I find open coils with no ferrite, like a wireless charging coil but small
2018-02-20T16:18:35 < englishman> and many more turns
2018-02-20T16:18:50 < dongs> what for?
2018-02-20T16:20:05 < englishman> concept is metal detector, to be used in an oscillator to detect changes in b field due to metals
2018-02-20T16:20:38 < englishman> but without the distance required by normal metal detectors, and high sample rate
2018-02-20T16:21:05 < emeryth> englishman: NFC tag antennas?
2018-02-20T16:21:14 < dongs> sounds like you're winding them yourself
2018-02-20T16:21:20 < dongs> NFC tags dont have a lot of turns
2018-02-20T16:21:40 < englishman> that's what I'd like to avoid, tho maybe nfc tx antennas have more turns
2018-02-20T16:23:40 < zyp> no
2018-02-20T16:24:40 < sync> just use a pcb antenna?
2018-02-20T16:24:46 < sync> or rather, coil?
2018-02-20T16:25:17 < sync> http://www.antenna-theory.com/definitions/nexus-nfc-antenna.gif
2018-02-20T16:25:21 < sync> > gif
2018-02-20T16:25:38 < dongs> omg why gif
2018-02-20T16:25:46 < zyp> if you want many turns, maybe look at antennas for 125kHz RFID rather than NFC
2018-02-20T16:26:00 < sync> https://images.anandtech.com/doci/6196/TDlQcM2OdFoNZ6JE.jpeg take a jpeg
2018-02-20T16:26:28 < dongs> https://www.seeedstudio.com/Mini-125Khz-RFID-Module-Pre-Soldered-Antenna-%2870mm-Reading-Distance%29-p-1723.html
2018-02-20T16:26:31 < dongs> score
2018-02-20T16:26:34 < dongs> ^ englishman
2018-02-20T16:26:35 < qyx> I found a local company recently.. with a '80 web
2018-02-20T16:26:41 < qyx> doing exactly these sort of things
2018-02-20T16:26:57 < emeryth> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-50pcs-lot-13-56MHz-rfid-tag-proximity-antenna-with-chip-ic-tags-nfc-1k/32780716784.html
2018-02-20T16:27:02 < emeryth> this is not enough turns?
2018-02-20T16:27:20 < dongs> cool
2018-02-20T16:27:24 < englishman> cool, tho 6x3.5cm is pretty big, looks like I'm on a good track there, and 125kHZ resonance should be enough
2018-02-20T16:28:20 < englishman> Those little ones look awesome
2018-02-20T16:28:58 < qyx> englishman: https://www.tme.eu/sk/katalog/#id_category=113387&cleanParameters=1&parameter_boxes=13&page=1&s_field=niski_prog&s_order=ASC
2018-02-20T16:29:08 < qyx> there are many
2018-02-20T16:29:46 < englishman> hey I just placed an order with tme
2018-02-20T16:32:27 < qyx> nah it was 14:00 cest already
2018-02-20T16:32:40 < Steffanx> ➡️
2018-02-20T16:32:43 < qyx> otherwise you could asked to merge the orders
2018-02-20T16:32:53 < qyx> -ed
2018-02-20T16:33:35 < kakimir> I need esd grounding pole
2018-02-20T16:33:42 < kakimir> something to touch
2018-02-20T16:33:49 < kakimir> before touch anything else
2018-02-20T16:33:51 < kakimir> a routine
2018-02-20T16:33:59 < sync> wut
2018-02-20T16:34:01 < sync> no?
2018-02-20T16:34:02 < kakimir> always touch that shiet before touching anything
2018-02-20T16:34:09 < sync> you just put your bracelet on
2018-02-20T16:34:14 < dongs> stick a pole up your ass
2018-02-20T16:34:14 < sync> and be done
2018-02-20T16:34:21 < dongs> permanent problem solved
2018-02-20T16:34:30 < kakimir> I move around my office
2018-02-20T16:34:54 < qyx> esd floor + esd shoes then
2018-02-20T16:35:13 < dongs> you dont have an office
2018-02-20T16:35:46 < kakimir> I found shoes
2018-02-20T16:35:59 < kakimir> I have like a room in our building
2018-02-20T16:36:06 < kakimir> is that called an.. office?
2018-02-20T16:36:19 < kakimir> actually it's more lab than office
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2018-02-20T16:38:56 < englishman> qyx: I'm not even sure how to pay them, unless they want a bank transfer
2018-02-20T16:39:09 < englishman> anyway thanks, should be a lot to look for in that category
2018-02-20T16:39:17 < qyx> englishman: paypal
2018-02-20T16:39:56 < qyx> I ordered fom them today too
2018-02-20T16:40:37 < englishman> just got a proforma invoice via email
2018-02-20T16:40:45 < englishman> with bank transfer details
2018-02-20T16:41:31 < englishman> and no way to change address online, I found somewhat funny
2018-02-20T16:41:48 < qyx> heh
2018-02-20T16:41:50 < qyx> yes
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2018-02-20T17:07:13 < Laurenceb> arg wut
2018-02-20T17:07:22 < Laurenceb> >cant even install influxdb
2018-02-20T17:07:28 < Laurenceb> https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/v0.9/introduction/installation/
2018-02-20T17:07:42 < Laurenceb> E: failed to fetch
2018-02-20T17:11:44 < qyx> you sure
2018-02-20T17:12:01 < qyx> it was like apt install influxdb
2018-02-20T17:16:13 < Laurenceb> not on linux mint
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2018-02-20T17:17:05 < qyx> why on earth are you using tht
2018-02-20T17:20:47 < Laurenceb> muh jerb
2018-02-20T17:21:01 < Laurenceb> >Failed to start
2018-02-20T17:21:09 < Laurenceb> this is worse than usb host
2018-02-20T17:24:03 < karlp> > using a falvour of the month distro like mint for actual job
2018-02-20T17:31:55  * emeb has been running on Fedora forever.
2018-02-20T17:34:16  * srk has been running on Fedora forever until last years switch to NixOS :)
2018-02-20T17:35:36 < srk> $ svdparse STM32F7x5.svd
2018-02-20T17:35:36 < srk> Device
2018-02-20T17:35:36 < srk>     { deviceName = "STM32F7x5_v1r1"
2018-02-20T17:35:51  * srk needs MCU diff
2018-02-20T17:46:35 < englishman> hmm none of these nfc antennas are on digikey
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2018-02-20T17:53:31 < Laurenceb> u have a fedora on ur head amirite
2018-02-20T17:53:38 < Laurenceb> muhlady
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2018-02-20T18:01:41 < jadew> watching 3d printing content on youtube, I concluded that 90% of the 3d printer users are printing garbage
2018-02-20T18:01:59 < jadew> maybe more than that
2018-02-20T18:04:13 < srk> vases!
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2018-02-20T18:48:16 < kakimir> a lot of garbage
2018-02-20T18:48:43 < kakimir> example models and figures
2018-02-20T18:49:04 < jadew> yep, that seems to be it
2018-02-20T18:51:00 < kakimir> I print stuff I can not share photos of
2018-02-20T18:52:54 < jadew> I want to print the missing feets of some of my instruments
2018-02-20T18:53:05 < jadew> not sure which filament to get for that
2018-02-20T18:53:14 < jadew> probably something gray
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2018-02-20T18:54:50 < kakimir> I gave actual lightning strike to my proto
2018-02-20T18:55:29 < kakimir> I'm doing esd testing
2018-02-20T18:55:30 < kakimir> !
2018-02-20T18:55:34 < kakimir> with my finger
2018-02-20T18:55:56 < Steffanx> Ty dongs, glad doing business with you :¶
2018-02-20T18:55:58 < jadew> I don't think that works as reliable as you'd like
2018-02-20T18:56:15 < jadew> unless maybe you drag your feet on a treadmill
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2018-02-20T19:02:36 < Steffanx> jadew get semi-flexible filament
2018-02-20T19:02:49 < jadew> for feet?
2018-02-20T19:02:52 < Steffanx> Sounds nice for feet
2018-02-20T19:03:01 < Steffanx> Yes sir.
2018-02-20T19:03:07 < jadew> yeah, I hope it's not too flexible tho
2018-02-20T19:03:09 < kakimir> my proto talks to debugger
2018-02-20T19:03:15 < jadew> this stuff weights a lot
2018-02-20T19:03:23 < kakimir> thanks guise
2018-02-20T19:03:53 < Steffanx> Although PETG is kinda flexible too. With a few outlines and low infill
2018-02-20T19:04:24 < kakimir> PaulFertser, I had misplaced swdio and swclk to debug connector
2018-02-20T19:04:39 < Steffanx> Dont do that kakimir
2018-02-20T19:04:54 < kakimir> it was hard to see on friday what I was doing
2018-02-20T19:05:09 < kakimir> I was steaming
2018-02-20T19:05:09 < jadew> the prices in Romania are a bit high for filaments...
2018-02-20T19:05:11 < jadew> this sucks
2018-02-20T19:05:18 < Steffanx> Whats high?
2018-02-20T19:05:38 < BrainDamage> build a filament extruder
2018-02-20T19:05:45 < jadew> ranging from 30 to 50 eur/kg
2018-02-20T19:06:18 < jadew> I'll try TME
2018-02-20T19:06:49 < jadew> they don't have anything related to 3d printing
2018-02-20T19:06:54 < Steffanx> I pay 24 euro/kg. For Real dutch filament
2018-02-20T19:07:00 < kakimir> PaulFertser, I mean my placement was off by 1 step
2018-02-20T19:07:05 < kakimir> not crossed
2018-02-20T19:07:13 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, I don't know the brand of these filaments
2018-02-20T19:07:15 < Laurenceb> lulx influxdb isnt fast enough
2018-02-20T19:07:21 < Laurenceb> even on core i7
2018-02-20T19:07:41 < Laurenceb> 311000 samples/s and needs >400k/s
2018-02-20T19:07:43 < PaulFertser> kakimir: heh, sometimes you one does something stupid like that and then the mind remembers it as a "correct" solution and you no longer doubt that part.
2018-02-20T19:07:44 < Steffanx> fyi. Real is the brandname.
2018-02-20T19:07:58 < kakimir> I double checked it as correct
2018-02-20T19:08:15 < kakimir> "correct"
2018-02-20T19:08:16 < Steffanx> Thats why colleagues are a nice thing.
2018-02-20T19:08:18 < Laurenceb> infaildb
2018-02-20T19:08:31 < kakimir> so my eyes were crossed both times I checked it
2018-02-20T19:08:32 < Steffanx> They can help you with stupid mistakes
2018-02-20T19:09:02 < kakimir> I think I pasted the image here too but it was friday or something
2018-02-20T19:09:24 < Steffanx> All you need is LaurenceDB right, Laurenceb ?
2018-02-20T19:09:29 < kakimir> swclk didn't look like clock signal but I didn't know how it should have looked like
2018-02-20T19:09:36 < kakimir> on scope display
2018-02-20T19:09:55 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: its called a wav file :P
2018-02-20T19:10:43 < Laurenceb> inb4 audiophools use influxdb to store their music
2018-02-20T19:12:32 < BrainDamage> all he needs is the thesis that makes filesystems equivalent to dbs
2018-02-20T19:12:48 < BrainDamage> then he can make management happy
2018-02-20T19:16:26 < Laurenceb> also the database gets slower as more data is added
2018-02-20T19:19:45 < srk> Laurenceb: have you tried timescale? it shouldn't get slower due to sharding
2018-02-20T19:20:05 < Laurenceb> >implying I want to use any of this shit
2018-02-20T19:20:23 < Laurenceb> yeah I looked at timescale, but influx is the hot shit and I have to use influx
2018-02-20T19:20:31 < Laurenceb> I've been ordered to
2018-02-20T19:20:36 < srk> :D
2018-02-20T19:20:40 < srk> I see
2018-02-20T19:21:12 < srk> check this out to prepare yourself for next hot stuff https://github.com/kamranahmedse/developer-roadmap
2018-02-20T19:21:30 < srk> THE next hot thing TM
2018-02-20T19:21:34 < jadew> devil design is the polish brand that makes PLA?
2018-02-20T19:22:13 < Laurenceb> the next hot thing is a freaking wav file
2018-02-20T19:23:21 < jadew> ok, found them at affordable prices
2018-02-20T19:24:24 < Laurenceb> cpu status: overheating
2018-02-20T19:25:11 < Laurenceb> this project is full retard
2018-02-20T19:25:36 < Laurenceb> if I batch the writes up to a few seconds of data at a time its faster.. slightly
2018-02-20T19:25:50 < Laurenceb> but now I need to test for ~5minutes to get accurate measurements
2018-02-20T19:27:26 < Laurenceb> oh shit I just though
2018-02-20T19:27:37 < Laurenceb> cpu will be thermal throttling as its at max temp
2018-02-20T19:27:42 < Laurenceb> making it even slower irl
2018-02-20T19:28:27 < zyp> were there somebody considering buying a beagle? they're running a 15% off promo now: https://www.totalphase.com/offer/year-of-the-dog-promo
2018-02-20T19:28:35 < Laurenceb> ewww
2018-02-20T19:28:45 < zyp> $1020 for a beagle 480 after the discount
2018-02-20T19:29:04 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZDZ7s_dtDc
2018-02-20T19:29:10 < Laurenceb> >beagles
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2018-02-20T19:38:25 < Laurenceb> lul 225k samples/s
2018-02-20T19:38:27 < Laurenceb> epin fail
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2018-02-20T19:41:16 < Steffanx> Kek
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2018-02-20T19:43:02 < Laurenceb> gets slower and slower and cpu gets hotter and hotter
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2018-02-20T19:58:35 < kakimir> keep work and pump seperate
2018-02-20T20:01:45 < Steffanx> what if pumping is your work, kakimir?
2018-02-20T20:02:01 < kakimir> possibly
2018-02-20T20:02:18 < kakimir> you want to see my proto Steffanx?
2018-02-20T20:02:28 < Steffanx> sure.
2018-02-20T20:02:29 < kakimir> I can pm you
2018-02-20T20:02:37 < Steffanx> :)
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2018-02-20T20:03:35 < kakimir> I need to draw some filled color blocks to stuff.. a sec
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2018-02-20T20:04:07 < Steffanx> take your time mr kakimir
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2018-02-20T20:07:23 < Rob235> its recomended to use an optocoupler to have the 12v inductive sensor trigger 5v for the mcu. Can I just use a mosfet?
2018-02-20T20:09:08 < Rob235> I know its usually used the other way around, having low voltage as a switch to turn on the higher voltage, but it can work the other way as well cant it?
2018-02-20T20:10:40 < kakimir> Steffanx, do you work on automotive related stuff?
2018-02-20T20:15:49 < Laurenceb> 97k/s
2018-02-20T20:21:33 < jadew> damn... birocracy is hell
2018-02-20T20:21:38 < Laurenceb>  >6% speed penalty just down to the amount of data in the database
2018-02-20T20:21:50 < Laurenceb> this is not going to end well under real world use
2018-02-20T20:22:23 < BrainDamage> beerocracy
2018-02-20T20:22:56 < jadew> should have said bureaucracy
2018-02-20T20:23:03 < jadew> I wish mIRC had spell checking
2018-02-20T20:24:14 < jadew> I don't know what kind of permits I need in order to start producing electronics
2018-02-20T20:24:32 < jadew> and nobody I talked to could help me, cuz they don't know and don't know who to ask
2018-02-20T20:24:34 < jadew> ...
2018-02-20T20:24:45 < Laurenceb> >permits
2018-02-20T20:24:47 < Laurenceb> lulwut
2018-02-20T20:24:56 < Laurenceb> even I dont need no permits
2018-02-20T20:25:04 < Laurenceb> and I stick shit in hospitals
2018-02-20T20:25:10 < jadew> Laurenceb, you need the environment shit
2018-02-20T20:25:14 < Steffanx> not really kakimir
2018-02-20T20:25:22 < jadew> and that includes a lot of other crap
2018-02-20T20:36:22 < Laurenceb> looks like database loses 5%/hour
2018-02-20T20:36:30 < Laurenceb> in throughput as new data comes in
2018-02-20T20:36:40 < Laurenceb> so much for "time series database"
2018-02-20T20:40:59 < via> jpa-: i am very confident i am not setting any spi parameters after the fact, also worth onting that sometimes its truncated on the start.. like https://imgur.com/a/sqNsD
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2018-02-20T21:22:14 < qyx> Laurenceb: how do you insert records into the database?
2018-02-20T21:22:27 < qyx> one sample a time?
2018-02-20T21:22:33 < Laurenceb> I dunno I'm using the stress test tool with a load of config
2018-02-20T21:22:35 < Laurenceb> nah
2018-02-20T21:22:40 < Laurenceb> batch size of 10k
2018-02-20T21:22:46 < Laurenceb> then 10 threads
2018-02-20T21:23:05 < Laurenceb> and queuing the actual writes 1s at a time (simulated)
2018-02-20T21:23:16 < Laurenceb> all the cores are at 100%
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2018-02-20T21:26:08 < qyx> whats the cmd of the influx-stress?
2018-02-20T21:26:20 < Laurenceb> its a config file
2018-02-20T21:26:50 < qyx> don't you use this? https://github.com/influxdata/influx-stress
2018-02-20T21:26:51 < Laurenceb> I added key value pairs for one set of measurements for all sensors
2018-02-20T21:26:56 < Laurenceb> thats yes
2018-02-20T21:28:09 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/influxdata/influxdb/blob/master/stress/stress.toml
2018-02-20T21:28:13 < Laurenceb> that with some mods
2018-02-20T21:29:08 < Laurenceb> 88k/s
2018-02-20T21:29:38 < qyx> on rpi?
2018-02-20T21:29:44 < Laurenceb> no core i7
2018-02-20T21:29:53 < qyx> ok, not that much
2018-02-20T21:29:57 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-20T21:30:16 < qyx> idk then, I would expect bazillion of writes per s
2018-02-20T21:30:34 < Laurenceb> thats 88k sensor writes per sec
2018-02-20T21:30:46 < Laurenceb> so about 1M points
2018-02-20T21:30:57 < Laurenceb> just about good enough but its getting slower and slower
2018-02-20T21:31:51 < qyx> arent you using many tags and labels or what
2018-02-20T21:32:07 < qyx> just some points with different timestamps in a batch
2018-02-20T21:32:33 < Laurenceb> I stuck a load of extra tags ito make it realistic...
2018-02-20T21:32:48 < qyx> how much is a load?
2018-02-20T21:33:01 < Laurenceb> 1s of simulated data
2018-02-20T21:33:15 < qyx> and what does it have to do with tags,
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2018-02-20T21:33:30 < Laurenceb> I dunno lol
2018-02-20T21:33:52 < Laurenceb> never used databases before
2018-02-20T21:34:15 < qyx> it doesn tmatter because influx is quite different
2018-02-20T21:34:29 < qyx> so do you tag every sample differently?
2018-02-20T21:34:32 < qyx> or what
2018-02-20T21:35:06 < Laurenceb> no they have the same set of tags
2018-02-20T21:37:23 < qyx> https://blog.outlyer.com/time-series-database-benchmarks
2018-02-20T21:37:26 < qyx> according to this
2018-02-20T21:37:31 < qyx> your 1M metrics/sec is quite ok
2018-02-20T21:37:43 < Laurenceb> heh its actually good
2018-02-20T21:37:48 < Laurenceb> 470k/s
2018-02-20T21:42:16 < qyx> skumuli.org looks promising
2018-02-20T21:42:31 < qyx> it there is at leas an alpha available
2018-02-20T21:42:37 < qyx> *if there is
2018-02-20T21:44:11 < qyx> 4.5M data points per second on 8-core Intel Xeon E5-2670 v2
2018-02-20T21:44:34 < Laurenceb> with skumuli ?
2018-02-20T21:49:40 < qyx> yes
2018-02-20T21:49:43 < englishman> is there a free eagle
2018-02-20T21:49:49 < englishman> or free eagle viewer
2018-02-20T21:49:53 < englishman> have to look at someones trash
2018-02-20T21:49:58 < Laurenceb> englishman: I'm sure there is... somewhere
2018-02-20T21:50:02 < Laurenceb> like on my hdd
2018-02-20T21:50:27 < qyx> at least it is written in a more sane language
2018-02-20T21:50:42 < qyx> englishman: search for eagle 7.7 free
2018-02-20T21:50:48 < qyx> or 7.4 or what
2018-02-20T21:50:52 < qyx> with old licensing
2018-02-20T21:51:22 < qyx> you can open anything but cannot modify it if too big or whatever
2018-02-20T21:51:30 < englishman> this guy used 8.5 tho
2018-02-20T21:51:44 < englishman> will it work you think?
2018-02-20T21:52:37 < Steffanx> eagle no longer has a free version?!
2018-02-20T21:53:58 < jadew> really?
2018-02-20T21:54:30 < englishman> apparently there is
2018-02-20T21:54:34 < englishman> https://www.autodesk.com/products/eagle/free-download
2018-02-20T21:55:17 < englishman> ugh
2018-02-20T21:55:22 < englishman> installing to c:\
2018-02-20T21:55:43 < Steffanx> better get a vm running
2018-02-20T21:55:47 < englishman> autodesk is not interested in improving eagle, then
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2018-02-20T21:56:09 < qyx> is there?
2018-02-20T21:56:17 < qyx> I had to register in order to download it
2018-02-20T21:56:19 < qyx> -> not free
2018-02-20T21:56:52 < Steffanx> come on.....
2018-02-20T21:57:26 < upgrdman> what about bugmenot for shit like that
2018-02-20T21:57:26 < qyx> also, no interwebs, no eagle
2018-02-20T21:57:38 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/6dAEVrA.png
2018-02-20T21:57:40 < englishman> yes
2018-02-20T21:57:45 < englishman> phone-home free software
2018-02-20T21:58:49 < englishman> latest download from website requires updating
2018-02-20T21:58:50 < englishman> ugh
2018-02-20T21:58:57 < englishman> i feel dirty
2018-02-20T21:59:10 < qyx> which one?
2018-02-20T21:59:19 < qyx> <7.7 require nothing
2018-02-20T21:59:30 < qyx> it just bothers you with a popup in startup
2018-02-20T21:59:32 < qyx> *on
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2018-02-20T21:59:44 < englishman> the one i linked is 8.6.0
2018-02-20T21:59:51 < englishman> 8.6.3 is latest
2018-02-20T22:02:01 < johntramp> i have a ringbuffer for incoming sensor data and would like to allocate all free ram to it. currently I am just increasing the buffer size until the linker complains. is there a smarter way to do this?
2018-02-20T22:02:48 < zyp> how do you define «all free ram»?
2018-02-20T22:03:32 < johntramp> static allocated, once it overlaps the stack
2018-02-20T22:03:59 < zyp> do you not use a heap? how do you know how much stack you need?
2018-02-20T22:06:09 < johntramp> no heap
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2018-02-20T22:07:20 < johntramp> there is no dynamic memory allocation
2018-02-20T22:11:05 < johntramp> I am just increasing the static allocation until the stack can no longer fit, and then back off a touch
2018-02-20T22:12:07 < srk> you can count :)
2018-02-20T22:15:46 < kakimir> is this a test?
2018-02-20T22:16:25 < Steffanx> 21:15 +- 10 minutes crt
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2018-02-20T22:18:28 < Steffanx> such fine peace of dongsware i received today, sadly the panel i ebayed has a dead pixel -_-
2018-02-20T22:18:37 < Steffanx> ofcourse i only noticed this after i removed the "dont remove this sticker, until satisfied"-sticker -_-
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2018-02-20T22:18:40 < upgrdman> if it is a drill, be sure to put "this is not a drill" in it
2018-02-20T22:19:16 < Steffanx> I can put whatever I want in it, upgrdman. As it's a display
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2018-02-20T22:19:26 < englishman> crt
2018-02-20T22:19:33 < englishman> little D caught a fly and ate it
2018-02-20T22:19:37 < upgrdman> Steffanx, lol no, that was re: <kak> is this a test?
2018-02-20T22:21:18 < Steffanx> Has the waffle stock been depleted yet, crt?
2018-02-20T22:23:05 < englishman> crt: https://i.imgur.com/k1Wcn5O.jpg
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2018-02-20T22:23:53 < upgrdman> hmm i think i want to make latkas for dinner tonight. so fucking good.
2018-02-20T22:24:14 < upgrdman> now i just need to find the recipe that i liked
2018-02-20T22:24:31 < upgrdman> latkas + apple sauce = proof that jews are all bad
2018-02-20T22:24:37 < Steffanx> wtf is latkas
2018-02-20T22:24:38 < upgrdman> aren't*
2018-02-20T22:24:53 < upgrdman> potato/onion pancakes
2018-02-20T22:25:42 < upgrdman> https://toriavey.com/images/2011/11/Yukon-Gold-Latkes-Close-2-900x675.jpg
2018-02-20T22:27:31 < Steffanx> loljew. :P
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2018-02-20T22:30:40 < jpa-> https://scontent.fhel1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/28070874_10155887124106023_5931784158673871478_o.jpg?oh=1cc2c4e526a211fa9a908656fc657445&oe=5B1518CB   this looks rather cold
2018-02-20T22:31:10 < englishman> id recognize that peninsula anywhere
2018-02-20T22:31:24 < kakimir> you can see finn-rus border in south
2018-02-20T22:31:51 < kakimir> clearly
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2018-02-20T22:32:05 < jpa-> yeah, russian side has had some kind of different forest management apparently
2018-02-20T22:33:18 < Steffanx> dear englishman, get some humor. Even Laurenceb has more. Regards, Steffanx
2018-02-20T22:33:46 < upgrdman> comparing english to laurence. them's fighting words.
2018-02-20T22:34:00 < Laurenceb> im 0% english
2018-02-20T22:34:16 < upgrdman> Laurenceb, what are you
2018-02-20T22:34:21 < jpa-> that's only because england lbexited
2018-02-20T22:34:21 < Laurenceb> tfw more syrian than english
2018-02-20T22:34:52 < Laurenceb> steve jobs 2.0
2018-02-20T22:36:33 < kakimir> recommend a movie
2018-02-20T22:36:58 < Steffanx> Captain underpants
2018-02-20T22:37:21 < upgrdman> 8mm
2018-02-20T22:38:00 < Steffanx> with mr cage? Cant be good
2018-02-20T22:38:08 < upgrdman> actually not too bad
2018-02-20T22:38:58 < kakimir> should I watch american made?
2018-02-20T22:39:00 < upgrdman> so i order some of those vacuum-seal jar lids, so you can supposedly keep food longer before it spoils
2018-02-20T22:39:11 < upgrdman> came with a little hand-held pump
2018-02-20T22:39:16 < upgrdman> looks like a small dick pump
2018-02-20T22:39:21 < kakimir> anyone seen american made?
2018-02-20T22:39:28 < upgrdman> "child-size" dick pump, you might say
2018-02-20T22:40:02 < Steffanx> i have it ready to watch, but didnt start it
2018-02-20T22:40:03 < Steffanx> yet
2018-02-20T22:48:02 < upgrdman> iirc Out of Time was a decent movie
2018-02-20T22:48:16 < upgrdman> complete with rectal grenade
2018-02-20T22:49:09 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-20T22:49:59 < Steffanx> we only IBGT here, crt
2018-02-20T22:50:33 < englishman> denzel washington makes a fuckton of money making completely uninteresting movies
2018-02-20T22:50:45 < Steffanx> noo
2018-02-20T22:50:49 < Steffanx> i liked that one movie
2018-02-20T22:51:18 < Steffanx> The equalizer
2018-02-20T22:53:09 < Steffanx> do you have something against black people englishman.
2018-02-20T22:56:10 < Steffanx> does not compute crt
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2018-02-20T23:05:00 < zyp> veg123
2018-02-20T23:05:06 < zyp> wrong window
2018-02-20T23:06:57 < Steffanx> Excellent password or username though zyp
2018-02-20T23:08:26 < Steffanx> language, crt
2018-02-20T23:08:33 < Simon--> new one is meat321
2018-02-20T23:08:56 < Steffanx> who is that? emeb?
2018-02-20T23:09:07 < englishman> 🐱
2018-02-20T23:10:38 < Steffanx> 🐨
2018-02-20T23:10:46 < emeb> lolwut?
2018-02-20T23:11:21 < englishman> warning, bannable content http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1519024930090.webm
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2018-02-20T23:12:05 < emeb> shown the door.
2018-02-20T23:12:54 < BrainDamage> was that crt's pet?
2018-02-20T23:12:58 < Steffanx> Nah i had to do that. otherwise Laurenceb thinks it only applies to him.
2018-02-20T23:13:33 < emeb> someone's gotta set the tone.
2018-02-20T23:14:17 < Steffanx> affirmative.
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2018-02-20T23:15:14 < emeb> 👮
2018-02-20T23:15:14 < zyp> Steffanx, yeah, it's a temporary password
2018-02-20T23:15:22 < zyp> helping a pal with some shit, he set that
2018-02-20T23:15:36 < zyp> good luck finding the right ip to ssh
2018-02-20T23:16:50 < Steffanx> 230V?
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2018-02-21T00:03:58 < upgrdman> anyone know if youtube-dl can also save the video description to a txt file or something? i dont see any flags to do this :/
2018-02-21T00:04:27 < upgrdman> "video description" being the paragraphs of text on the youtube page
2018-02-21T00:07:15 < BrainDamage> i know it shoves it in the file itself
2018-02-21T00:07:23 < BrainDamage> so you should be able to extract it out
2018-02-21T00:07:30 < BrainDamage> probably with ffmpeg
2018-02-21T00:08:01 < upgrdman> how it put it in the file?
2018-02-21T00:08:34 < BrainDamage> it's a comment tag
2018-02-21T00:08:34 < karlp> any media container format worth a damn has explicit provisions for metadata
2018-02-21T00:08:46 < upgrdman> k
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2018-02-21T01:07:58 < Laurenceb_> sup autists
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2018-02-21T01:08:16 < karlp> DP is up, by like 1k5
2018-02-21T01:09:08  * Laurenceb_ is plotting influxdb throughput versus uptime
2018-02-21T01:09:24 < Laurenceb_> looks like logarithmic decay so far
2018-02-21T01:09:39 < karlp> throughput vs _uptime_ ?
2018-02-21T01:09:52 < karlp> so not growing the data, jsut the same data being queried repeatedly?
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2018-02-21T01:10:37 < Laurenceb_> no, adding more and more data
2018-02-21T01:10:46 < Laurenceb_> up to a few gig so far
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2018-02-21T01:12:52 < karlp> that's not against uptime then is it.
2018-02-21T01:12:56 < Laurenceb_> its actually just about fast enough still...
2018-02-21T01:13:19 < Laurenceb_> well when the system is up there are shittons of sensors shovelling data into it
2018-02-21T01:13:29 < Laurenceb_> simulation is using 80% cpu atm
2018-02-21T01:15:10 < Laurenceb_> but thats with nothing else running
2018-02-21T01:15:16 < BrainDamage> let me ask again, what exactly are you mesuring? insertion time vs total entry count?
2018-02-21T01:15:20 < Laurenceb_> and its trending upwards
2018-02-21T01:15:28 < Laurenceb_> BrainDamage: yeah
2018-02-21T01:16:38 < BrainDamage> there should be some clear pattern based on the data structure model
2018-02-21T01:16:48 < BrainDamage> the so called O-notation, if you're familiar with
2018-02-21T01:17:18 < BrainDamage> O(1), O(n), O(n^2), etc
2018-02-21T01:17:26 < Laurenceb_> yeah Ithink its O(log(n))
2018-02-21T01:18:24 < Laurenceb_> but its also a function of how the times are arranged
2018-02-21T01:18:35 < BrainDamage> so an arbitrarily long recording will eventually clog up the cpu time
2018-02-21T01:18:41 < Laurenceb_> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 is better than 1,2,3  12,13,14,15 for the sampling times
2018-02-21T01:18:45 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-21T01:19:07 < BrainDamage> is the n function of total samples of the db, or only current table?
2018-02-21T01:19:20 < Laurenceb_> I'm not sure tbh
2018-02-21T01:19:38 < Laurenceb_> but for this application it needs ~6hours recording sessions
2018-02-21T01:19:52 < BrainDamage> if it's only current table you can rotate tables to keep n low, and maintain timing constrains
2018-02-21T01:20:10 < Laurenceb_> ah ok
2018-02-21T01:20:15 < BrainDamage> getting the stream back together will require piecing together multiple tables, but will let you satisfy the inane requirements
2018-02-21T01:20:20 < Laurenceb_> or I could just use wav files...
2018-02-21T01:20:22 < zyp> influxdb is probably wrong tool for the job, considering you've got a fixed sample rate
2018-02-21T01:20:27 < Laurenceb_> ikr
2018-02-21T01:20:32 < Laurenceb_> wav ftw
2018-02-21T01:20:46 < Laurenceb_> unless you want a core i7 space heater
2018-02-21T01:21:11 < BrainDamage> yeah, we've long determined you're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole
2018-02-21T01:21:21 < BrainDamage> does it really have to be influxdb, or can it be any db?
2018-02-21T01:21:40 < zyp> other dbs are probably even dumber
2018-02-21T01:21:56 < zyp> considering influxdb is designed to handle time series
2018-02-21T01:22:04 < Laurenceb_> nah their benchmarks are better than influxdb for this sort of time series data
2018-02-21T01:22:17 < Laurenceb_> but it has to be influx for autistic reasons
2018-02-21T01:23:31 < dongs> autism
2018-02-21T01:23:37 < Laurenceb_> ^
2018-02-21T01:26:53 < BrainDamage> paid autism
2018-02-21T01:27:51 < Laurenceb_> le salary autiste
2018-02-21T01:31:09 < upgrdman> Laurenceb_, samples are what, integers?
2018-02-21T01:34:58 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-21T01:35:26 < Laurenceb_> just my shittons of mems sensors over usb
2018-02-21T01:37:32 < upgrdman> Laurenceb_, how many ints per second?
2018-02-21T01:37:54 < upgrdman> just curious. not sure how shit my telemetryviewer program is
2018-02-21T01:38:12 < Laurenceb_> about 700k
2018-02-21T01:38:13 < upgrdman> although im viz'ing live, not just storing for later processin
2018-02-21T01:38:25 < upgrdman> o wow ok
2018-02-21T01:38:53 < BrainDamage> is that a single vehicle or the whole fleet?
2018-02-21T01:38:55 < upgrdman> most i've done with my program is 40k/sec, but that did not even remotely tax the cpu or gpu
2018-02-21T01:39:02 < Laurenceb_> this is the reason for multi-TT usb hubs :P
2018-02-21T01:39:08 < upgrdman> tt?
2018-02-21T01:39:08 < Laurenceb_> BrainDamage: per vehicle
2018-02-21T01:39:15 < Laurenceb_> transaction translator
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2018-02-21T01:39:20 < englishman> why would you buy stt hub in le current year
2018-02-21T01:39:38 < upgrdman> what do tt hubs do different? package shit more efficiently than normal hubs?
2018-02-21T01:40:06 < Laurenceb_> yeah so you actually get 480mbps with a load of 12mbps devices
2018-02-21T01:40:50 < upgrdman> so with a "normal" usb3 hub, if you plug a bunch of usb2 devices, it will max at 480Mbps combined??
2018-02-21T01:41:32 < Laurenceb_> hmm usb3->2 is another matter...
2018-02-21T01:41:36 < Laurenceb_> zyp would know
2018-02-21T01:42:13 < upgrdman> iirc usb3.0 is 5Gbps. would suck if a usb3 hub couldnt handle 8 usb2 devices each doing 480Mbps
2018-02-21T01:42:27 < Laurenceb_> aiui most of the current stuff doesnt handle 3<->2 properly
2018-02-21T01:52:21 < Laurenceb_> whole vehicle fleet is going to be liek >10TB
2018-02-21T01:58:04 < zyp> I think devices that bridge between usb3 and usb2 exist in theory, but I believe there's very few of them in practice
2018-02-21T01:58:20 < zyp> normal usb3 hubs are just a usb3 hub and a usb2 hub in parallel
2018-02-21T01:58:41 < zyp> since both sets of signalling lines exist in normal usb3 links
2018-02-21T01:59:34 < zyp> i.e. only SS/SS+ devices make use of the usb3 speed, HS/FS/LS is still transported over the usb2 pair
2018-02-21T01:59:44 < upgrdman> zyp, so for usb2 devices on a usb3 hub, they'd usually share 480Mbps of bandwidth?
2018-02-21T01:59:50 < zyp> correct
2018-02-21T01:59:57 < upgrdman> and the usb3 devices on that hub share 5Gbps?
2018-02-21T02:00:01 < zyp> correct
2018-02-21T02:00:03 < upgrdman> k
2018-02-21T02:00:07 < zyp> or 10, for SS+
2018-02-21T02:00:16 < upgrdman> SS+ == usb3.1?
2018-02-21T02:00:19 < zyp> yes
2018-02-21T02:00:21 < upgrdman> k
2018-02-21T02:00:47 < upgrdman> htf are they doing 4k60 over usb-c. thats >10Gbps
2018-02-21T02:01:04 < zyp> that's displayport, not usb signalling
2018-02-21T02:01:08 < upgrdman> o
2018-02-21T02:01:33 < zyp> also, usb-c has four high speed pairs, usb3 only use one per direction
2018-02-21T02:01:56 < upgrdman> so usb-c is 4*10Gbps?
2018-02-21T02:02:21 < zyp> essentially, yes, not sure exactly what the connector is rated for
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2018-02-21T02:07:52 < unregisteredandf> HELLO
2018-02-21T02:08:34 < upgrdman> welcome
2018-02-21T02:08:57 < unregisteredandf> what is up here?
2018-02-21T02:09:12 < zyp> DP, said karlp
2018-02-21T02:09:15 < zyp> by like 1k5
2018-02-21T02:09:38 < unregisteredandf> and he is out
2018-02-21T02:11:05 < unregisteredandf> i am trying to find a perfect and most effective arrangement of the segments and shift register bits
2018-02-21T02:11:52 < unregisteredandf> but different types have different pinouts ;/ and i don't want to make a bard for every type
2018-02-21T02:11:55 < zyp> arrange them all on the first bit, then you only need to shift a single bit to control all of them
2018-02-21T02:12:03 < zyp> that's the most efficient
2018-02-21T02:13:06 < unregisteredandf> zyp: there are 3.5 diigit ones so the first 2 digits and dp should be lower 3 bits, and it would be nice to have a logic in the pattern like CCW on top, and last segment is G
2018-02-21T02:14:09 < zyp> I'm not really sure what you're talking about
2018-02-21T02:14:27 < unregisteredandf> ofc it can be airwired to put any display on the board but i shauld make a board for at least the most common i will use
2018-02-21T02:14:58 < zyp> but I figure you're talking about led displays
2018-02-21T02:15:50 < zyp> IMO pattern doesn't matter, just wire it up the simplest way to route it
2018-02-21T02:16:39 < zyp> then just use a lookup table in the driver code
2018-02-21T02:16:43 < unregisteredandf> zyp: this http://www.kingbrightusa.com/images/catalog/SPEC/ca56-11ewa.pdf  and connecting to 74hc595s
2018-02-21T02:17:22 < unregisteredandf> zyp: it does matter if i want automatic detection of number of digits :)
2018-02-21T02:17:58 < zyp> automatic detection of what?
2018-02-21T02:18:06 < unregisteredandf> number of digits
2018-02-21T02:18:20 < zyp> how?
2018-02-21T02:18:50 < unregisteredandf> 595s can be extended connected in a chain
2018-02-21T02:19:29 < zyp> well, of course, it's a shift register
2018-02-21T02:20:35 < unregisteredandf> hoping that i dont have to tell you how dude :)
2018-02-21T02:21:17 < unregisteredandf> zyp: do you program or design boards too?
2018-02-21T02:21:25 < zyp> well, I assume you mean you'll loop the end of the chain back to MISO and check what the shift length is
2018-02-21T02:21:34 < unregisteredandf> ya
2018-02-21T02:22:00 < zyp> but how does number of shift registers translate into digits? will you be chaining boards?
2018-02-21T02:22:10 < unregisteredandf> so i can wire up any number of digits
2018-02-21T02:22:11 < zyp> or just populating a single board differently
2018-02-21T02:22:17 < unregisteredandf> well
2018-02-21T02:22:33 < unregisteredandf> 7seg+dp is 8 bits, so coincidentally, an 595 has 8 bits
2018-02-21T02:22:55 < unregisteredandf> all must be equal or the program will be a clusterfuck
2018-02-21T02:23:25 < zyp> nah
2018-02-21T02:25:50 < unregisteredandf> lel i have pulse tig welded together 2 stainless steel needles and put put them in a ceramic halogen socket, then plugged in a 400W psu's 3v3, it glows nce red hot
2018-02-21T02:25:50 < zyp> no matter what you do, you'll end up with a lookup table for digit->pattern
2018-02-21T02:26:07 < Thorn> I received lpc824 in qfn, how the fuck am I supposed to solder this nanotechnology
2018-02-21T02:26:09 < unregisteredandf> zyp: yeah i already made one
2018-02-21T02:26:42 < zyp> if you route it simplest way, you'll just need a larger lookup table
2018-02-21T02:26:57 < unregisteredandf> Thorn: using solder paste and a reflow oven ideally, but you can cget away with a hot-air gun, or a 75W-100W halogen lamp
2018-02-21T02:27:00 < unregisteredandf> carefully
2018-02-21T02:27:22 < zyp> four shift registers is 32 bits, then you need entries for ten digits plus dp for each of the four digits
2018-02-21T02:27:38 < zyp> a uint32_t[44] in .rodata is trivial
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2018-02-21T02:31:24 < upgrdman> Thorn, ya, paste + hot air (or even a heat gun) will do the job
2018-02-21T02:31:50 < upgrdman> if you dont have paste, just tin the footprint, add extra flux, then reflow with hot air or heat gun
2018-02-21T02:31:54 < zyp> unregisteredandf, here's your clusterfuck code: https://paste.jvnv.net/view/1Wb6V
2018-02-21T02:32:22 < zyp> not accounting for DP, but I left that as an exercise for the reader
2018-02-21T02:33:24 < unregisteredandf> zyp: ok well it doesn't matter much how the segments are shuffled around in that 8 bits but if there are 3.5 digit ones then the first 2 vertical segments and dp should be the first 3 bits, and if other displays have totally different pinuots then simple board is irrelevant anymore, so a logical placement of the segments in the byte would be nice like CCW around and the centre as last segment
2018-02-21T02:34:12 < unregisteredandf> zyp: i meant that if segments ahve different wiring pattern in a chained display that will be a clusterfuck to handle
2018-02-21T02:34:32 < unregisteredandf> so the wiling should be the same for digits
2018-02-21T02:34:36 < unregisteredandf> wiring
2018-02-21T02:34:41 < Thorn> I would think bridges would be more likely with paste, especially since there will be no solder mask between pads (0.5mm pitch)
2018-02-21T02:34:47 < zyp> unregisteredandf, I just showed you how it's not
2018-02-21T02:35:12 < Thorn> not sure of true
2018-02-21T02:35:13 < unregisteredandf> Thorn: if you dont put too much paste then not, it has flux in it
2018-02-21T02:35:15 < upgrdman> Thorn, you might get bridges, but theyll be on the edge, not under the chip. easy to fix with an iro
2018-02-21T02:35:17 < upgrdman> iron*
2018-02-21T02:35:29 < zyp> unregisteredandf, you can still chain an arbitrary number of 32-bit groups, since you have a repeating 32-bit pattern
2018-02-21T02:35:37 < unregisteredandf> Thorn: do you have a stencil ?
2018-02-21T02:35:45 < Thorn> of course not lol
2018-02-21T02:36:03 < unregisteredandf> zyp: but i also want single dicgit chains, like 1-2-3-4-5-6-7
2018-02-21T02:36:14 < zyp> and making a 44 entry lookup table isn't that much harder than making a 11-entry lookup table
2018-02-21T02:36:52 < unregisteredandf> i already had a 42 lookup table i remember,
2018-02-21T02:37:14 < unregisteredandf> added possible letters to the function display too
2018-02-21T02:37:26 < englishman> Thorn: .5 qfn? no stencil? I'd handsolder assuming no pad
2018-02-21T02:37:43 < Thorn> there is a central pad
2018-02-21T02:37:44 < zyp> I were dicking around with a 16-seg display some time ago
2018-02-21T02:37:49 < upgrdman> Thorn, next time pay for the stencil. makes lives so much nicer :)   http://www.farrellf.com/temp/stenciled_solderpaste.jpg
2018-02-21T02:37:53 < zyp> never got around to actually making boards for it though
2018-02-21T02:37:58 < englishman> Yes ^^^^
2018-02-21T02:38:24 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/wAslT.JPG <- but I got the displays for a prototype
2018-02-21T02:39:02 < unregisteredandf> zyp: thanks for the tip my test version was way more complex than that :)
2018-02-21T02:39:48 < unregisteredandf> i have connected a 5 digit display to 2 595s mulrtiplexed and displayed at 256Hz on it
2018-02-21T02:40:10 < unregisteredandf> but i dont want matrix display flicker so i will make it static ;/
2018-02-21T02:40:58 < unregisteredandf> and it won't require cpu time to flash up digits
2018-02-21T02:41:24 < zyp> oh, speaking of matrices, I've done that too
2018-02-21T02:41:26 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/ldMgR.JPG
2018-02-21T02:41:44 < unregisteredandf> hhehe :)
2018-02-21T02:41:59 < unregisteredandf> that is a cool display
2018-02-21T02:42:07 < zyp> that board is also designed to be chained, but I never tested how many I could run in a chain
2018-02-21T02:42:08 < unregisteredandf> only would need many more
2018-02-21T02:42:16 < zyp> yeah, I've got ten
2018-02-21T02:42:20 < unregisteredandf> i would like 8x8 matrix displays only
2018-02-21T02:42:27 < unregisteredandf> i have nice 8x8 fonts
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2018-02-21T02:43:22 < unregisteredandf> zyp: so ur pro ;>
2018-02-21T02:43:46 < zyp> I think that board is close to ten years old now
2018-02-21T02:44:36 < zyp> hmm, no, only a bit over eight, I had it fabbed in november 2009
2018-02-21T02:46:54 < unregisteredandf> zyp: you meant the hardware spi send? i wrote a software bit out for it
2018-02-21T02:47:15 < zyp> why would you bitbang shift registers?
2018-02-21T02:47:27 < unregisteredandf> it was simple
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2018-02-21T02:47:50 < zyp> nah, bitbanging is a lot more work than just using SPI
2018-02-21T02:48:01 < unregisteredandf> i also was in interrupt
2018-02-21T02:48:08 < unregisteredandf> so it did not matter i think
2018-02-21T02:48:24 < zyp> oh well, have a good night
2018-02-21T02:48:33 < unregisteredandf> but now i might consider-maybe hardware, if the pin is around there i want it
2018-02-21T02:48:52 < unregisteredandf> bb
2018-02-21T02:51:08 < unregisteredandf> spi and dma would be the proper way to out on static display ;)
2018-02-21T03:09:48 < R0b0t1> When will there be C# for STM32?
2018-02-21T03:10:58 < branjb> python4stm32
2018-02-21T03:35:20 < Thorn> R0b0t1: I never touched it of course but i believe there is a stm32-based "netduino" with .net microframework
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2018-02-21T04:39:36 < srk> http://48.io/~rmarko/random/wtf.jpg #svd
2018-02-21T04:44:54 < unregisteredandf> would you use a cat5 cable strand or a 0.4mm enameled copper wire to connect/route stuff manually? the single strand enameled has better temperature stability, thinner, but more brittle, the plastic on the cat5 strand melts easily, but breaks harder
2018-02-21T04:46:18 < unregisteredandf> the enameled copper is basically a thick bond wire
2018-02-21T04:53:00 < R0b0t1> They sell thin wire with a teflon coating that is the best of both worlds
2018-02-21T04:53:02 < R0b0t1> Wire wrap wire
2018-02-21T04:54:23 < srk> curl http://48.io/~rmarko/random/STM32L4x6.txt
2018-02-21T04:58:37 < unregisteredandf> Rob235: wirewrap wire is soli
2018-02-21T04:58:40 < unregisteredandf> d
2018-02-21T04:59:31 < unregisteredandf> if i dab silicone on it after im done then enamel is cool then
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2018-02-21T05:17:06 < upgrdman> cooking pros: if you want to calculate the calories in some food you make, is summing the calories of the ingredients close enough, or does cooking them signif'ly change it (making it easier to digest and therefore more calories since theyre adjusted for typical human digestion etc)
2018-02-21T05:17:44 < unregisteredandf> upgrdman: i prefer calculating while chewing it
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2018-02-21T08:36:48 < englishman> hi
2018-02-21T08:37:08 < englishman> i have a sausage
2018-02-21T08:37:17 < englishman> therefore, i have a fuzzy grey friend
2018-02-21T08:37:40 < englishman> yes
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2018-02-21T09:47:00 < qyx> Laurenceb: wheres your mems pdf sheet
2018-02-21T09:50:17 < englishman> qyx my cc flagged TME as suspicious
2018-02-21T09:50:24 < englishman> order: delayed
2018-02-21T09:50:30 < zyp> nice
2018-02-21T09:53:11 < qyx> heh
2018-02-21T09:53:38 < qyx> my order is delivering now
2018-02-21T09:55:42 < englishman> yes just called they confirmed my card is now completely blocked
2018-02-21T09:55:51 < englishman> and credit dept opens at 7
2018-02-21T09:55:57 < englishman> so this shit isnt getting shipped today
2018-02-21T09:56:00 < englishman> sigh
2018-02-21T09:58:01 < englishman> oh
2018-02-21T09:58:06 < englishman> the cat's credit card went thru
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2018-02-21T10:04:09 < Steffanx> Lol credit card mania.
2018-02-21T10:07:39 < qyx> does your cat have a credit card?
2018-02-21T10:11:50 < englishman> yes and excellent credit ratings
2018-02-21T10:13:06 < Steffanx> Little Dong s?
2018-02-21T10:13:17 < Steffanx> Excellent name on a cc
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2018-02-21T11:19:24 < stvn> thanks mate
2018-02-21T11:22:57 < kaa> how low I need to pull sot23 nmos gate usually
2018-02-21T11:23:04 < stvn> what
2018-02-21T11:23:31 < stvn> you want a bit of that or what?
2018-02-21T11:23:39 < Thorn> to below Vt
2018-02-21T11:23:45 < kaa> I have
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2018-02-21T11:24:05 < kaa> 0,4V and nmos still activates high side switch
2018-02-21T11:24:17 < kaa> threshold was like 1V or so
2018-02-21T11:24:20 < kaa> lemme see
2018-02-21T11:24:33 < stvn> wtf are you doing there though
2018-02-21T11:24:44 < kaa> driving high side smart swittches
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2018-02-21T11:25:00 < zyp> more like dumb switches
2018-02-21T11:25:02 < stvn> ah okay
2018-02-21T11:25:14 < kaa> 2N7002
2018-02-21T11:25:14 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-21T11:25:22 < stvn> oooooh a 7002
2018-02-21T11:25:26 < stvn> i only knew of 7000
2018-02-21T11:25:30 < Thorn> maybe your mosfet has been killed by esd
2018-02-21T11:25:42 < zyp> kaa, how strong is your pullup?
2018-02-21T11:25:54 < Thorn> 2n7000 can be killed by looking at it
2018-02-21T11:26:01 < stvn> 210ma
2018-02-21T11:26:04 < kaa> lpc1111 pullup
2018-02-21T11:26:04 < stvn> lol
2018-02-21T11:26:08 < kaa> is it like 100k
2018-02-21T11:26:11 < kaa> equal resistance
2018-02-21T11:26:16 < zyp> kaa, no, on the output
2018-02-21T11:26:45  * stvn drools and falls off the chair
2018-02-21T11:26:51 < kaa> it's en pin of the switch basically VIN is inputed there
2018-02-21T11:26:55 < kaa> EN pin
2018-02-21T11:26:59 < zyp> got a schematic?
2018-02-21T11:27:00 < kaa> *outputed there
2018-02-21T11:27:13 < kaa> but I measure under a volt
2018-02-21T11:27:16 < Steffanx> Time to be helpful instead of trolling stvn. Try it once.
2018-02-21T11:27:23 < kaa> I should see 14Volts
2018-02-21T11:27:40 < stvn> need to see schematic
2018-02-21T11:28:28 < kaa> lpc1111 is bad in that sense its output drive resistance is high
2018-02-21T11:28:47 < stvn> high is not a measurement
2018-02-21T11:29:01 < zyp> you won't see 14V on drain if that drain is only connected to a pmos gate without any pullup
2018-02-21T11:29:14 < kaa> nmos
2018-02-21T11:29:21 < zyp> no, pmos
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2018-02-21T11:29:50 < stvn> oh yeah that might be a problemo there
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2018-02-21T11:30:13 < kaa> how high side smart switch works is you pull EN pin to ground with transistor
2018-02-21T11:30:28 < zyp> kaa, what's the smart switch?
2018-02-21T11:30:36 < zyp> what part number?
2018-02-21T11:30:54 < kaa> bts50080-1tea
2018-02-21T11:31:13 < kaa> zyp, have you worked with these?
2018-02-21T11:31:54 < stvn> today i received rs part number 151-114
2018-02-21T11:33:32 < zyp> okay, so it has internal pullup
2018-02-21T11:33:42 < kaa> to VIN rite?
2018-02-21T11:33:48 < zyp> yes
2018-02-21T11:34:27 < kaa> is there any benefits using bipolar transistor to pull it down?
2018-02-21T11:34:50 < kaa> competitor uses bjt
2018-02-21T11:34:58 < stvn> http://sound.whsites.net/p22_ra53.jpg
2018-02-21T11:36:11 < stvn> doubt there is an issue using bjt you're just toggling an enable right?
2018-02-21T11:36:37 < kaa> is there issue using nmos?
2018-02-21T11:36:53 < stvn> if you want to use it as a high side switch it is difficult
2018-02-21T11:37:07 < kaa> nmos is lowside
2018-02-21T11:37:08 < stvn> using pmos makes it easier
2018-02-21T11:37:15 < kaa> no nmos is easier
2018-02-21T11:37:18 < stvn> nmos can be whatever you want
2018-02-21T11:37:23 < stvn> why is it easier?
2018-02-21T11:37:48 < kaa> because of direct logic level to gate?
2018-02-21T11:38:08 < zyp> I_IN(off) is listed as max 30 uA, so I guess if your transistor leaks more than that, you risk it remaining on
2018-02-21T11:38:10 < kaa> source is bind to ground
2018-02-21T11:39:24 < kaa> 10uA @ 45V @ 150C
2018-02-21T11:39:43 < stvn> okay you're using a low side nmos to control the IN for your high side switch IC
2018-02-21T11:39:50 < zyp> try adding a bit more resistance between positive supply and enable pin, check if that helps
2018-02-21T11:40:15 < kaa> you mean I pull EN up externally?
2018-02-21T11:40:24 < zyp> yes
2018-02-21T11:40:47 < zyp> a stronger pullup will mitigate leakage
2018-02-21T11:41:19 < kaa> instead of adding more pullup to gate?
2018-02-21T11:41:24 < kaa> pulldown*
2018-02-21T11:41:52 < stvn> doubt you'd need it if your source is stiff
2018-02-21T11:42:10 < zyp> if you're driving gate from a push-pull output, adding pulldown to gate shouldn't make a difference
2018-02-21T11:44:36 < kaa> mcu output - series resitor - pulldown resistor - gate
2018-02-21T11:45:46 < stvn> i think its time to get dave-cad out
2018-02-21T11:45:46 < dongs> https://www.leetchi.com/c/cagnotte-de-matthieu-grondin found zyp
2018-02-21T11:46:13 < stvn> jesus mate
2018-02-21T11:46:26 < stvn> reading that reminded me of my 8th grade french teacher
2018-02-21T11:46:41 < zyp> what's that? "gimme 2k EUR so I can go to japan"?
2018-02-21T11:46:49 < dongs> yes
2018-02-21T11:46:55 < dongs> and i have autism/some other disease
2018-02-21T11:47:03 < stvn> cool
2018-02-21T11:47:05 < stvn> me too
2018-02-21T11:47:13 < karlp> Thorn: how come you got pcbs with no soldermask between pads?
2018-02-21T11:47:28 < Thorn> karlp: $5 chinapcb
2018-02-21T11:47:35 < dongs> karlp: because he waited until cheapest china PCB place ran a 50% off special
2018-02-21T11:47:42 < dongs> and then ordered
2018-02-21T11:47:45 < stvn> karlp, can i see
2018-02-21T11:47:52 < zyp> karlp, that's pretty common on small pitch footprints
2018-02-21T11:47:56 < stvn> i would like to see that profile
2018-02-21T11:48:48 < Thorn> they all require a premium for 0.1mm soldermask bridges
2018-02-21T11:49:03 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/jYTIH.png
2018-02-21T11:49:05 < kaa> zyp, there is internal protection circuits for EN and IS pins
2018-02-21T11:49:11 < Thorn> otherwise it's 0.4mm which is not enough for 0.65mm pitch and lower
2018-02-21T11:49:14 < Thorn> PAZ launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p-PToD2URA
2018-02-21T11:49:43 < dongs> why no recover of 1st stage?
2018-02-21T11:49:52 < dongs> is it already used one and they're just trashing it?
2018-02-21T11:49:59 < Thorn> what, again?
2018-02-21T11:50:08 < dongs> Falcon 9’s first stage for the PAZ mission previously supported the FORMOSAT-5 mission from SLC-4E in August 2017. SpaceX will not attempt to recover Falcon 9’s first stage after launch.
2018-02-21T11:50:09 < Thorn> not entertaining enough, thumbs down
2018-02-21T11:50:19 < kaa> zyp, when I add external pull-up I lose those protections for IN pin
2018-02-21T11:50:33 < zyp> bullshit
2018-02-21T11:50:45 < kaa> are you sure?
2018-02-21T11:50:52 < zyp> dongs, probably need all fuel for propulsion, nothing left for returning
2018-02-21T11:51:11 < zyp> at least that's been the reason for other launches without recovery
2018-02-21T11:51:14 < Thorn> the barge is kaputt
2018-02-21T11:51:16 < dongs> zyp, its going to LEO, isn't it?
2018-02-21T11:51:23 < dongs> or what thorn said
2018-02-21T11:51:29 < zyp> ah, that might also be
2018-02-21T11:51:36 < stvn> this is all a ruse
2018-02-21T11:51:39 < zyp> no
2018-02-21T11:51:44 < Thorn> last time they simulated a landing and the stage actually landed into water
2018-02-21T11:51:49 < zyp> this one is launching from vandenberg AFB
2018-02-21T11:51:51 < Thorn> they had to blow it up later or something
2018-02-21T11:51:53 < zyp> their barge is fine
2018-02-21T11:52:00 < Thorn> so there was enough fuel
2018-02-21T11:52:01 < zyp> it's the east coast one that got damaged
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2018-02-21T11:53:47 < karlp> pretty sure I had soldermask between the ones I just got back from elecrow and they were cheap as shit
2018-02-21T11:54:18 < stvn> elon musk is like the next jared fogle
2018-02-21T11:54:27 < Thorn> btw iirc they're going to attempt recovery of a payload fairing using a giant net
2018-02-21T11:55:28 < unregisteredandf> hi
2018-02-21T11:55:37 < Thorn> elon musk has far more crazy ideas than hollywood
2018-02-21T11:55:42 < unregisteredandf> you overcomplicate and overthink everything ;//
2018-02-21T11:55:55 < stvn> polypump
2018-02-21T11:56:03 < dongs> is that who it is?
2018-02-21T11:56:15 < dongs> ah yes.
2018-02-21T11:56:59 < jadew> lol, this garbage sells for $460: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/b-k-precision/4017A/BK4017A-ND/333322
2018-02-21T11:57:49 < dongs> here's my take on 'function generators'. When you're in a position to need one, its probably faster to hack something up with a -discovery board
2018-02-21T11:57:52 < stvn> test gear is usually twice as expensive from those places
2018-02-21T11:58:38 < jadew> dongs, faster than pressing a few buttons?
2018-02-21T11:58:58 < stvn> at least it has sweep function
2018-02-21T11:59:07 < jadew> yeah, I noticed that too
2018-02-21T11:59:07 < stvn> so i can align my vacuum tube AM radio
2018-02-21T11:59:09 < dongs> judew, on something you don't have on your desk, yes
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2018-02-21T12:01:05 < dongs> https://japantoday.com/category/crime/women-caught-smuggling-gold-from-s.-korea-concealed-in-their-bodies lol japs
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2018-02-21T12:02:00 < karlp> dongs: you'd be proud, I was turning on our power calibrator this morning and noticed it was running itron
2018-02-21T12:02:11 < dongs> lol itron
2018-02-21T12:02:17 < dongs> utterly useless japanese crap
2018-02-21T12:02:40 < karlp> what's the deal with gold smuggling?
2018-02-21T12:02:46 < karlp> what are they trying to avoid?
2018-02-21T12:02:47 < dongs> i dont even know
2018-02-21T12:03:00 < dongs> how much gold could they stuff in thier ass
2018-02-21T12:03:07 < dongs> vs just sticking some in carryon baggage???
2018-02-21T12:03:11 < zyp> I received my triple CT yesterday
2018-02-21T12:03:14 < jadew> I didn't know it's illegal to export gold
2018-02-21T12:03:19 < dongs> import
2018-02-21T12:03:23 < dongs> its not
2018-02-21T12:03:23 < jadew> ah
2018-02-21T12:03:33 < jadew> zyp, what's a CT?
2018-02-21T12:03:37 < dongs> ct scan
2018-02-21T12:03:37 < zyp> current transformer
2018-02-21T12:03:38 < karlp> current transformer
2018-02-21T12:03:40 < jadew> ah
2018-02-21T12:03:41 < dongs> oh.
2018-02-21T12:03:43 < BrainDamage> it's illegal to import large capitals without taxes, regardless of the form
2018-02-21T12:03:49 < dongs> or that.
2018-02-21T12:03:58 < karlp> BrainDamage: in some places, but it's often quite high.
2018-02-21T12:04:08 < karlp> and they still have to even notice.
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2018-02-21T12:04:39 < stvn> current transformer is good
2018-02-21T12:04:42 < zyp> http://www.yhdc.us/ProductShow3.asp?ArticleID=749 <- this shit
2018-02-21T12:04:48 < jadew> I'd make heatsinks and install it in some older laptops
2018-02-21T12:04:52 < stvn> i still have my coilcraft samples from 10 years ago
2018-02-21T12:05:02 < dongs> heatwhats
2018-02-21T12:05:12 < jadew> heatsinks for CPUs and graphic cards
2018-02-21T12:05:15 < dongs> any "older laptop" that needs a "heatsink" should probably be sent off to recyclers
2018-02-21T12:05:21 < stvn> ^
2018-02-21T12:05:28 < jadew> I moean for smuggling gold
2018-02-21T12:05:30 < karlp> heh, 4000:1 for only 40A :)
2018-02-21T12:05:30 < jadew> *meant
2018-02-21T12:05:32 < stvn> ok
2018-02-21T12:06:25 < jadew> you get a beefier laptop and fill it with gold
2018-02-21T12:06:34 < zyp> karlp, yeah, I ended up scaling my burden resistors for something like that
2018-02-21T12:06:36 < karlp> 22mm hole spacing is too wide for mounting on a mccb isn't it?
2018-02-21T12:06:41 < karlp> aren't they what, 17.5?
2018-02-21T12:06:51 < zyp> yes
2018-02-21T12:07:07 < zyp> so idk how to do that
2018-02-21T12:07:18 < zyp> idk how to mount it at all actually
2018-02-21T12:07:22  * karlp laughs
2018-02-21T12:07:40 < karlp> how are you planning on installing in general?
2018-02-21T12:07:55 < karlp> some meters use CTs internally, but externally wired for direct connection
2018-02-21T12:08:03 < karlp> so you just thread the wires through yourself inside your box
2018-02-21T12:08:21 < qyx> mamut glue them
2018-02-21T12:08:37 < zyp> yeah, but that's not gonna fit
2018-02-21T12:08:58 < kaa> I need only 2.2mA max to get switch on so.. I can add pretty much pulldown to gate
2018-02-21T12:09:11 < qyx> 4module box is not an option?
2018-02-21T12:09:20 < Thorn> useless iot webinar in progress https://register.gotowebinar.com/rt/6252354568064994819
2018-02-21T12:10:22 < kaa> even with 2k resistance to fet output will become active
2018-02-21T12:10:27 < stvn> nty
2018-02-21T12:10:49 < stvn> i like schematic kaa
2018-02-21T12:10:57 < kaa> no boi
2018-02-21T12:11:06 < kaa> have you used multisim blue?
2018-02-21T12:11:09 < zyp> karlp, https://bin.jvnv.net/file/OZXza.JPG <- I figure it's all going into an enclosure like this
2018-02-21T12:11:48 < zyp> for now I'll just slip the wires through and let it hang free
2018-02-21T12:12:07 < kaa> biltema?
2018-02-21T12:12:21 < zyp> no?
2018-02-21T12:12:36 < kaa> I buy that exact box from biltema
2018-02-21T12:12:40 < kaa> great value
2018-02-21T12:12:48 < karlp> zyp: fair enough
2018-02-21T12:13:35 < zyp> kaa, actually, it might be
2018-02-21T12:14:29 < zyp> or it might be clas ohlson, I don't recall which
2018-02-21T12:18:55 < Thorn> ok the webinar is not so useless
2018-02-21T12:20:32 < stvn> don't say that now
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2018-02-21T12:21:15 < stvn> any linux users on here?
2018-02-21T12:22:43 < tomeaton17> top kek
2018-02-21T12:22:56 < stvn> it is a top kek
2018-02-21T12:23:21 < tomeaton17> ofc I am a linux user
2018-02-21T12:23:53 < tomeaton17> is nasa eefs any good?
2018-02-21T12:25:09 < stvn> never heard of that
2018-02-21T12:25:44 < stvn> It is a simple file system for memory devices such as EEPROM, RAM, ROM, etc. ...
2018-02-21T12:26:58 < tomeaton17> Yeah was considering it but fat I could map over usb easily
2018-02-21T12:32:05 < karlp> what does "map over usb" have to do with filesystems support?
2018-02-21T12:32:43 < qyx> I have read about that eefs and thats all I remember
2018-02-21T12:32:59 < qyx> tomeaton17: see spifs too
2018-02-21T12:33:05 < qyx> or spiffs or how is it called
2018-02-21T12:35:31 < tomeaton17> Spiffs looks interesting aswell thanks
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2018-02-21T13:21:45 < rajkosto> how get actual good flux and not vaseline from china
2018-02-21T13:22:46 < kaa> get stannol multifix 450-01
2018-02-21T13:24:00 < kaa> you just dont buy stuff like that from china
2018-02-21T13:28:20 < kaa> another thing is solder
2018-02-21T13:28:46 < kaa> you can buy shit solder from china for doing crap
2018-02-21T13:29:26 < rajkosto> the solder from china is terrible i just buy some locally
2018-02-21T13:30:27 < rajkosto> there is no flux locally thogh
2018-02-21T13:30:31 < stvn> explains a lot about china
2018-02-21T13:30:54 < rajkosto> the "AMTECH" stuff from china from Colofornia
2018-02-21T13:30:57 < rajkosto> is just vaseline
2018-02-21T13:30:59 < rajkosto> does absolutely nothing
2018-02-21T13:38:43 < karlp> check this out: https://www.banggood.com/Folomov-A1-Multifunctional-Mini-Portable-Magnetic-Li-ion-Battery-Charger-p-1228676.html
2018-02-21T13:41:57 < dongs> wat
2018-02-21T13:42:02 < dongs> is that a pump
2018-02-21T13:44:03 < dongs> is magnetic part because the 2 ends stick to the battery ends?
2018-02-21T13:44:11 < rajkosto> yes thy do
2018-02-21T13:44:24 < rajkosto> they have magnets inside
2018-02-21T13:44:57 < dongs> oh, it can also use the battery as a charger for other crap
2018-02-21T13:44:59 < dongs> amaze
2018-02-21T13:45:13 < dongs> its like a kinda thing I've never knew i needed
2018-02-21T13:45:35 < stvn> pump
2018-02-21T13:46:24 < stvn> odd gizmo
2018-02-21T13:50:39 < qyx> I have a product which can have configurable length
2018-02-21T13:50:50 < qyx> ie. it consists of multiple small modules
2018-02-21T13:51:04 < qyx> like ~15x50mm
2018-02-21T13:51:28 < qyx> I am wondering whats the best way to connect them together
2018-02-21T13:52:52 < qyx> solder tabs on both ends should do the trick but I am worried it may be a bit fragile
2018-02-21T13:53:30 < qyx> or short ffc cables
2018-02-21T13:57:13 < dongs> https://www.seeedstudio.com/Grove-Universal-4-Pin-Buckled-20cm-Cable-%285-PCs-pack%29-p-936.html HTH
2018-02-21T13:58:57 < karlp> how many pins?
2018-02-21T13:59:10 < karlp> there's a bunch of connectors designed for led lighting that might be handy
2018-02-21T14:00:13 < jpa-> i'd just use right-angle pin headers & socket headers
2018-02-21T14:12:19 < qyx> 10 pins minimum, 12 would be great
2018-02-21T14:12:26 < qyx> yeah, I h ave seen those 4pin led connectors
2018-02-21T14:12:53 < karlp> don't suppose anyone's tried using clang here recently?
2018-02-21T14:13:17 < karlp> if I just do CC=clang and add -target arm-none-eabi it kinda compiles, but then I get "fatal error: 'string.h' file not found" ?
2018-02-21T14:17:56 < dongs> -target lunix
2018-02-21T14:18:25 < zyp> qyx, chained in series or parallel?
2018-02-21T14:19:14 < zyp> for stuff wired in parallel, you could do ribbon IDC cable with a bunch of connectors on the same cable
2018-02-21T14:19:19 < zyp> similar to old IDE drives
2018-02-21T14:20:34 < zyp> otherwise right-angle pin headers seems reasonable, but 10-12 signals is starting to consume some area
2018-02-21T14:21:19 < unregisteredandf> ata133 cable
2018-02-21T14:22:33 < unregisteredandf> zyp: what is your opinion on using usb printer connector as usb charger?
2018-02-21T14:23:52 < zyp> what is a usb printer connector?
2018-02-21T14:24:07 < qyx> mhm, actually a 10pin 1.27mm header should fit
2018-02-21T14:24:41 < unregisteredandf> zyp: USB-type B
2018-02-21T14:24:42 < qyx> even better if it was not a header&idc connector but a smd idc connector
2018-02-21T14:25:51 < zyp> unregisteredandf, I don't understand your question
2018-02-21T14:25:59 < dongs> yeah wat
2018-02-21T14:26:05 < unregisteredandf> https://www.lelong.com.my/usb-type-b-connector-handson28-184591471-2018-10-Sale-P.htm
2018-02-21T14:26:23 < zyp> yeah, that is a type-b connector
2018-02-21T14:26:36 < dongs> why the fuck are you browsing lelong.my
2018-02-21T14:26:44 < dongs> they dont ship ton hungary
2018-02-21T14:26:50 < dongs> ton=to
2018-02-21T14:27:06 < unregisteredandf> dongs: i gugled for zyp
2018-02-21T14:27:20 < dongs> I'm certain he's aware waht usb type B connector looks like
2018-02-21T14:27:23 < dongs> without needing a pic
2018-02-21T14:27:52 < unregisteredandf> so i have some of this connector from dead printers and thought i might try them out in usb charger connector for lithium powered led lams
2018-02-21T14:28:52 < zyp> as a 5V input?
2018-02-21T14:29:17 < unregisteredandf> takes up more space than the microusbshit but can be found in trash and might be stronger?
2018-02-21T14:29:29 < unregisteredandf> yes usb is 5V
2018-02-21T14:29:37 < zyp> should work just as well as micro-b, disadvantage is that cables is a lot rarer
2018-02-21T14:29:59 < unregisteredandf> who doesnt have a usb printer?
2018-02-21T14:30:47 < unregisteredandf> zyp: thhe microusbshit breaks easily ;/
2018-02-21T14:30:58 < zyp> nah
2018-02-21T14:31:23 < unregisteredandf> i would rather an 5.5/2.5 mm metal power socket and make a cable
2018-02-21T14:31:57 < dongs> unregisteredandf: i have a better suggestion for a connector
2018-02-21T14:32:15 < unregisteredandf> even the tinyest nokia round power connector is stronger than microusbshit
2018-02-21T14:32:28 < dongs> use this one: https://www.ncst.co.za/shop/images/stories/virtuemart/product/cn36p.jpg
2018-02-21T14:32:49 < dongs> i'm sure you have some of those from "dead" devices too
2018-02-21T14:32:51 < zyp> the main disadvantage of plain b vs micro-b is cable availability
2018-02-21T14:33:01 < zyp> not just the cable in itself, but also charge-rated cables
2018-02-21T14:33:09 < unregisteredandf> dongs: i will have wireless charger, ha :P
2018-02-21T14:33:21 < karlp> how is one meant to do reset handler type code when clang says you're not allowed to have non-ASM statement in naked functions?!
2018-02-21T14:33:39 < zyp> most equipment with b connectors are either self powered or bus powered drawing less than the traditional 500 mA limit
2018-02-21T14:33:40 < dongs> LOL karlp WELCOME TO KEIL
2018-02-21T14:33:44 < dongs> finally you can write proper code
2018-02-21T14:33:54 < dongs> none of that fucking __asm_fuckoff shit
2018-02-21T14:34:04 < zyp> which means that type-b cables usually aren't designed for more than 500 mA
2018-02-21T14:34:29 < zyp> meanwhile, modern micro usb cables are often designed for up to 2.4A
2018-02-21T14:34:50 < karlp> http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/armclang_ref/armclang_ref_jhg1476893564298.htm ? :)
2018-02-21T14:34:53 < zyp> mini-b has the same problem as plain b
2018-02-21T14:34:54 < karlp> welcome to keil ;)
2018-02-21T14:35:03 < unregisteredandf> anybody made wireless charger yet?
2018-02-21T14:35:17 < dongs> unregisteredandf: ive made WPC1.2 shit or wahtever.
2018-02-21T14:35:26 < dongs> high power mode.
2018-02-21T14:35:28 < dongs> works.
2018-02-21T14:35:36 < zyp> I've mounted a qi receiver to some shit
2018-02-21T14:35:38 < dongs> iirc some NXP shit
2018-02-21T14:35:46 < zyp> some TI module
2018-02-21T14:35:54 < unregisteredandf> and what about shit shit?
2018-02-21T14:36:43 < zyp> no, don't use shit shit
2018-02-21T14:36:46 < zyp> only use good shit
2018-02-21T14:36:48 < unregisteredandf> i have an induction heater, i could use it for charging my lithium batts
2018-02-21T14:36:57 < unregisteredandf> good shit?
2018-02-21T14:36:57 < dongs> i bet
2018-02-21T14:37:02 < emeryth> yes
2018-02-21T14:37:19 < dongs> unregisteredandf: https://i.imgur.com/oVfRmii.jpg hopefully this is you soon
2018-02-21T14:37:37 < unregisteredandf> tried it with a hdd, tossed it on and turned it on, it started smelling deliciois
2018-02-21T14:38:20 < unregisteredandf> dongs: that is already burned why waste the fire extinguisher
2018-02-21T14:42:05 < stvn> ok
2018-02-21T14:42:37 < unregisteredandf> i think it would be perfectly safe to pass 2kW wirelessly to a lithium batt
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2018-02-21T14:59:48 < jadew> do other countries take a tax for WEEE when selling the product?
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2018-02-21T15:02:03 < jadew> before I start selling any electronics, I have to have a contract with someone that collects this stuff and pay them for each sale I make
2018-02-21T15:02:37 < dongs> WEEEE sounds like some european-inflicted trash
2018-02-21T15:02:49 < jadew> that's what it is
2018-02-21T15:02:50 < dongs> related to ROHS
2018-02-21T15:03:26 < jadew> it's independent of RoHS
2018-02-21T15:03:48 < jadew> RoHS is related to the CE complience tho
2018-02-21T15:04:10 < jadew> anyway, trying to work my way through the legislation, it's a real PITA to start doing this legally
2018-02-21T15:05:22 < zyp> for selling to distributors or selling to end-users?
2018-02-21T15:05:32 < jadew> selling to end-users
2018-02-21T15:05:48 < jadew> distributors have to do it when they sell your stuff tho
2018-02-21T15:06:04 < jadew> actually, I'm not sure if it's only about end-users
2018-02-21T15:06:09 < zyp> right, so if you just manufacture and sell to distributors, you don't have to deal with it
2018-02-21T15:06:14 < jadew> the wording they used is not particularly clear
2018-02-21T15:06:18 < jadew> "putting something on the market"
2018-02-21T15:06:34 < jadew> but they also mention that if you import anything or sell any electronics, you have to pay that fee
2018-02-21T15:06:48 < jadew> so I assume it's only for whoever sells the equipment last
2018-02-21T15:07:56 < jadew> I'm still waiting for the contract proposal from one of these "non-profit" organization
2018-02-21T15:08:33 < dongs> what are you trying to sell this time
2018-02-21T15:08:39 < dongs> your radar shit? or function generator shit
2018-02-21T15:08:44 < dongs> or some other unlisted shit
2018-02-21T15:08:49 < jadew> if you don't have a contract with one of them, you have to collect EEE waste at some random time, from other manufacturers
2018-02-21T15:09:11 < jadew> dongs, I just want to start selling stuff
2018-02-21T15:09:39 < jadew> I have a couple of projects, I'll start with what I have available right now
2018-02-21T15:09:59 < jadew> (none of it was radar related)
2018-02-21T15:11:47 < jadew> anyway, I have a production space now, authorization from the comerce thing, now I need authorizations from the environment protection agency
2018-02-21T15:11:52 < jadew> I think I need two from them
2018-02-21T15:12:02 < jadew> (both requireing different fees)
2018-02-21T15:12:26 < jadew> one for putting WEEE on the market, the second for simply operating
2018-02-21T15:12:38 < dongs> just put that trashcan symbol on your pcbs and call it done
2018-02-21T15:12:49 < dongs> nobdoy is gonna bother you for selling 2 things per year
2018-02-21T15:13:01 < jadew> you don't know Romania
2018-02-21T15:13:06 < jadew> they're fucking assholes
2018-02-21T15:14:13 < qyx> wat, authorization for doing ce and weee?
2018-02-21T15:14:26 < jadew> qyx, not for CE, for WEEE
2018-02-21T15:14:38 < jadew> in their eyes, you're not producing goods, you're producing waste
2018-02-21T15:15:14 < jadew> it's like "oh, you're not generating waste when producing this? hmm... well I think what you're producing is garbage anyway, so let's tax that"
2018-02-21T15:16:00 < zyp> oh, so your government is like the internet
2018-02-21T15:16:28 < jadew> the absurd thing is that if you don't adhere to an association that collects garbage on your behalf, once or twice a year you are required to collect random WEEE
2018-02-21T15:16:47 < jadew> like... you could produce 1 kg of electronics and you may find yourself having to dispose of 1 T
2018-02-21T15:17:04 < zyp> and do what with it? burn it in your garden?
2018-02-21T15:17:26 < jadew> don't know, I don't think anyone does that, which is why these non-profit associations were created
2018-02-21T15:17:39 < jadew> you pay them to do it for you
2018-02-21T15:18:15 < jadew> basically, if you're producing electronics, you get to share the load with LG and SONY
2018-02-21T15:18:23 < jadew> like you're on the same level
2018-02-21T15:19:04 < zyp> can't you just partner up with unregisteredandf? he likes recycling printers
2018-02-21T15:19:37 < dongs> But few young people in Japan appear to be bothered. Japanese men often describe having girlfriends as too much trouble, since women expect them to pay for everything and engage emotionally. Women say men are unambitious. Mayu Kase, a 22-year-old single woman, says having a boyfriend "would be a good thing if it comes along". But, she adds, "I'm not desperate."
2018-02-21T15:19:42 < dongs> RIP zyp
2018-02-21T15:19:49 < jadew> unless he's into old refrigerators, I don't think he'd be interested
2018-02-21T15:20:13 < zyp> dongs, hmm?
2018-02-21T15:20:17 < dongs> https://www.economist.com/news/asia/21737071-they-are-less-so-when-they-think-about-future-young-japanese-are-surprisingly-content
2018-02-21T15:20:21 < dongs> donno pasting random trash from here
2018-02-21T15:20:40 < jadew> I wish I lived in Japan
2018-02-21T15:20:47 < dongs> no you most definitely do not
2018-02-21T15:21:09 < jadew> seems like a nice place from the outside
2018-02-21T15:21:17 < dongs> exactly, until youre on the inside
2018-02-21T15:22:05 < zyp> it's a nice place to travel, but I wouldn't want to work there
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2018-02-21T15:22:43 < dongs> some chick working office job in jp that I chat with just came back home from office
2018-02-21T15:22:46 < dongs> its 10:20pm
2018-02-21T15:22:48 < qyx> here everyone want to live in norway or switzerland
2018-02-21T15:23:03 < qyx> idk wh
2018-02-21T15:23:10 < jadew> dongs, when did she start?
2018-02-21T15:23:19 < dongs> 9am
2018-02-21T15:23:27 < jadew> dongs, yeah, that sucks
2018-02-21T15:23:35 < jadew> qyx, they're both good countries
2018-02-21T15:23:36 < qyx> she will die young
2018-02-21T15:23:38 < dongs> routinely has 'lunch' around 3-4pm
2018-02-21T15:23:41 < jadew> high standard of living
2018-02-21T15:23:46 < jadew> and generally rich
2018-02-21T15:23:57 < dongs> judew you can be rich too
2018-02-21T15:24:01 < dongs> just dickstart something stupid
2018-02-21T15:24:14 < qyx> like a salat
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2018-02-21T15:25:56 < jadew> dongs, thinking about that, when I did that dickstarter several years ago, I was entirely unprepared for production
2018-02-21T15:26:27 < jadew> it would have been delayed at least a month only for getting the legal stuff in order
2018-02-21T15:26:43 < dongs> haha
2018-02-21T15:27:02 < dongs> 50 mins to paz mission
2018-02-21T15:27:13 < dongs> i guess im gonna go take a bath and maybe count parts for zyp's assembly
2018-02-21T15:27:16 < dongs> should do taht tomrorow
2018-02-21T15:27:21 < dongs> before its delayed more by other shit
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2018-02-21T15:43:35 < dongs> sweden won curling
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2018-02-21T16:03:05 < englishman> canada sucked dicks
2018-02-21T16:03:09 < englishman> no surprise there
2018-02-21T16:03:11 < englishman> http://bitcoinist.com/dogecoin-hard-fork-dogethereum-2018/
2018-02-21T16:05:51 < Steffanx> I know. They suck at waffle delivery
2018-02-21T16:07:13 < englishman> that too
2018-02-21T16:09:01 < dongs> PAZ mission delayed 24h
2018-02-21T16:09:58 < englishman> qyx where can i see the tracking number?
2018-02-21T16:15:04 < qyx> they will send you an email
2018-02-21T16:15:16 < qyx> with a link, there is no number
2018-02-21T16:15:20 < qyx> at least with UPS
2018-02-21T16:15:26 < dongs> wat
2018-02-21T16:16:11 < qyx> I  mean they write it like "you can track the parcel <here>"
2018-02-21T16:16:22 < qyx> not "tracking number of the parcel is ..."
2018-02-21T16:17:49 < englishman> hmm
2018-02-21T16:18:01 < englishman> Dorian @ support said it shipped but no email yet
2018-02-21T16:18:02 < englishman> k thx
2018-02-21T16:24:12  * qyx @ kakimir mode
2018-02-21T16:24:15 < qyx> 40 LEDS on a board
2018-02-21T16:25:56 < sync> autisms
2018-02-21T16:32:27 < dongs> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/WWHCC_2009_-_Team_China.jpg
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2018-02-21T17:22:32 < Laurenceb> <qyx> Laurenceb: wheres your mems pdf sheet
2018-02-21T17:22:33 < Laurenceb> wut
2018-02-21T17:23:45 < dongs> i think he misspelled memes
2018-02-21T17:23:51 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-21T17:32:07 < qyx> found it already
2018-02-21T17:32:18 < qyx> pdf of your accel characterization
2018-02-21T17:35:07 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjk-eyPy4qo
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2018-02-21T17:35:09 < Laurenceb> dis is good
2018-02-21T17:35:14 < Laurenceb> dis is really good
2018-02-21T17:37:02 < Laurenceb> qyx: if I get to use the shaker I could do bode plots too...
2018-02-21T17:37:06 < Laurenceb> but... shakergate
2018-02-21T17:37:33 < BrainDamage> get adult supervision to use baby shaker
2018-02-21T17:37:44 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-21T17:37:58 < Laurenceb> my friend has been testing his android phone with the shaker
2018-02-21T17:38:14 < Laurenceb> looks like android accel config is screwy, who could have guessed
2018-02-21T17:38:15 < dongs> i bet hes farming pokedongs
2018-02-21T17:38:38 < Laurenceb> 200hz sampling from the android drivers, but ~500hz sensor bandwidth
2018-02-21T17:39:06 < Laurenceb> so the response wraps around due to aliasing with little attenuation
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2018-02-21T19:03:16 < rajkosto> i had to get a different solder locally
2018-02-21T19:03:19 < rajkosto> slightly cheaper
2018-02-21T19:03:24 < rajkosto> but smells like death when melting
2018-02-21T19:05:08 < Laurenceb> you would know
2018-02-21T19:05:54 < jadew> any ideas on where to get some good value/money ESD mats?
2018-02-21T19:07:13 < jadew> I need about 5 meters
2018-02-21T19:07:21 < jadew> x 60 cm
2018-02-21T19:08:11 < Laurenceb> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWigp0nX0AE-Gzp.jpg:large
2018-02-21T19:09:33 < jadew> is that stallman?
2018-02-21T19:09:59 < jadew> if not, I don't recognize anyone from the left picture
2018-02-21T19:11:01 < Laurenceb>  >being this new
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2018-02-21T19:12:52 < jadew> ok... ESD mats aren't cheap
2018-02-21T19:15:16 < Laurenceb> https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/patriarchal-race-colonize-mars-just-another-example-male-entitlement-ncna849681
2018-02-21T19:16:02 < Laurenceb> the Martian body
2018-02-21T19:16:06 < Laurenceb> fapfapfap
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2018-02-21T19:41:51 < Laurenceb> http://www.scarboroughspa.co.uk/events/Sargon-of-Akkad-Scarborough-Spa-June-2018
2018-02-21T19:41:54 < Laurenceb> my sides
2018-02-21T19:42:30 < Laurenceb> maybe I should go
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2018-02-21T20:01:23 < upgrdman> anyone here used wxwidgets AND qt? how do they compare for desktop gui shits
2018-02-21T20:04:56 < Steffanx> I used wxwidgets yeaaars ago during some internship. Will never use it again
2018-02-21T20:05:08 < Steffanx> Would use Qt for sure.
2018-02-21T20:05:12 < upgrdman> k
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2018-02-21T20:20:12 < Steffanx> but Qt has a weird license system. Im not sure how Qt works for commercial apps
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2018-02-21T20:21:49 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: LGPL
2018-02-21T20:22:03 < Rob235> man, my printer is printing like shit.  I don't want to restart this print though
2018-02-21T20:22:21 < Steffanx> better restart
2018-02-21T20:22:41 < Rob235> its a temporary support brace so I'm gonna let it finish
2018-02-21T20:23:15 < Steffanx> i swear there was more to it, but i might be wrong PaulFertser
2018-02-21T20:23:28 < Rob235> I wanted to print them in PLA and get it printing well before I buy PETG to reprint them
2018-02-21T20:23:43 < Rob235> so as long as the holes line up its fine
2018-02-21T20:23:47 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: was, many years ago :)
2018-02-21T20:23:56 < Steffanx> in my experience petg is even harder to print, Rob235
2018-02-21T20:24:41 < Rob235> I'm sure it will be fine, I think its a small clog. I just can't fix it right now
2018-02-21T20:26:14 < jadew> Steffanx, there used to be, but they changed their licensing a couple of years back
2018-02-21T20:26:57 < jadew> wxWidgets is more compact, because it generates code that's closer to the OS than Qt
2018-02-21T20:27:11 < jadew> qt has its own everything
2018-02-21T20:28:00 < jadew> I'm not sure, but I think the way it handles events is also slowing it down, compared to wxWidgets, which uses the less nicer, but better performing messages
2018-02-21T20:28:21 < Steffanx> kicad is wxwidgets right?
2018-02-21T20:28:31 < jadew> not sure, but it might be
2018-02-21T20:28:43 < jadew> there are also upsides to Qt
2018-02-21T20:28:55 < jadew> it has more/smarter controls
2018-02-21T20:29:37 < jadew> IMO, the biggest downside to Qt is creator or whatever they're calling their IDE these days
2018-02-21T20:29:53 < jadew> it's not like other IDEs and not in a good way
2018-02-21T20:29:59 < Steffanx> pff, imho its good.
2018-02-21T20:30:15 < jadew> it may be, but it's so fucking different from what you'd expect
2018-02-21T20:30:31 < Steffanx> You used visual studio tooo much :P
2018-02-21T20:30:40 < jadew> probably
2018-02-21T20:31:15 < jadew> you used to be able to use VS for Qt
2018-02-21T20:31:25 < jadew> I don't think that's supported anymore tho
2018-02-21T20:35:36 < jadew> https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/250mm-X-300mm-ESD-Anti-Static-Mat-Grounding-Cord-Kit-Phone-Tablet-Repair-Table/1088121818?iid=401197547674#UserReviews
2018-02-21T20:35:43 < jadew> lol @ the review
2018-02-21T20:36:29 < jadew> ah, that thing is supposed to pierce through the mat
2018-02-21T20:36:42 < jadew> I wonder if that's sufficient (should be I guess, no?)
2018-02-21T20:36:57 < jadew> anyway, at that price it will probably catch fire if you breath on it and you have a fever
2018-02-21T20:46:37 < upgrdman> thats a small esd mat
2018-02-21T20:46:55 < upgrdman> why even bother if you dont cover the whole workbench
2018-02-21T20:48:35 < Steffanx> Damnit. 21.15 +-10 minutes is no longer valid.
2018-02-21T20:48:44 < fest> jadew, I ordered a dozen 120x80cm mats at tme.eu at around 50EUR/pc
2018-02-21T20:49:10 < jadew> fest, that's not bad, thanks
2018-02-21T20:49:16 < jadew> I'll check them out
2018-02-21T20:49:25 < upgrdman> crt, whats pumping
2018-02-21T20:49:42 < jadew> upgrdman, well, you only have to cover the part where you work
2018-02-21T20:49:42 < Steffanx> A bit early mate
2018-02-21T20:49:43 < upgrdman> wuts dat
2018-02-21T20:49:55 < Steffanx> aussie time.. -_-
2018-02-21T20:49:56 < jadew> there's no point in having instruments sitting on ESD mats for example
2018-02-21T20:50:03 < jadew> they're already earthed
2018-02-21T20:50:22 < upgrdman> jadew, ya but the point of "saftey" shit is to make it easy to be safe. not just a small little space surrounded by "danger"
2018-02-21T20:52:01 < fest> jadew: https://www.tme.eu/en/details/esdmat-60x120gr/esd-bench-mats/elme/157cut-60120-grey/
2018-02-21T20:52:15 < fest> those were quite good value
2018-02-21T20:52:44 < jadew> fest, nice, they'd perfectly fit my tables
2018-02-21T20:52:52 < upgrdman> and ideally the mat should be wide enough, and going to edge of the work surface, so it can drain any charge on your arms, sleeves, shirt, etc.
2018-02-21T20:52:52 < jadew> thanks
2018-02-21T20:52:57 < jadew> wish they had square corners
2018-02-21T20:53:56 < jadew> upgrdman, that's a bit excessive
2018-02-21T20:54:19 < upgrdman> jadew, not really
2018-02-21T20:54:20 < jadew> if I'm worried I may be charged I just touch the ground on some instrument
2018-02-21T20:54:33 < upgrdman> then why even buy an esd mat
2018-02-21T20:54:34 < jadew> and if I work with something sensitive I wear the bracelet
2018-02-21T20:54:41 < fest> I did mess up the earthing cables though, there are two different sizes of connectors
2018-02-21T20:55:12 < jadew> upgrdman, honestly, because I'm not entirely happy with the finish of my new benches
2018-02-21T20:55:22 < jadew> but that was the best I could do in 2.5 cm thickness
2018-02-21T20:55:40 < jadew> I already have an ESD mat where I work
2018-02-21T20:55:49 < upgrdman> in theory, you'd never touch anything if youre charged up. mats make things more fault tolerant, since humans cant be trusted
2018-02-21T20:56:13 < upgrdman> if you want a cheap work surface, use ceramic tile
2018-02-21T20:56:28 < upgrdman> not esd safe, but you can solder on it, cut on it, etc.
2018-02-21T20:56:31 < upgrdman> and dirt cheap
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2018-02-21T20:56:56 < jadew> I may get one to keep close
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2018-02-21T21:00:21 < jadew> I'm revamping my lab - getting rid of the metal frame shelves and using the extra space to add two more tables
2018-02-21T21:06:39 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/UWVtw.jpg
2018-02-21T21:07:34 < Steffanx> whats the flatcable doing ?
2018-02-21T21:07:52 < Steffanx> oh, you were doing some add-on board
2018-02-21T21:09:10 < zyp> yeah, stm32 board is not done yet, so it's hooked up to devboard through breakout
2018-02-21T21:11:49 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/BKkr8.png <- this stuff
2018-02-21T21:12:30 < zyp> it's more or less done, except edison is dumb, so I'm gonna remove that
2018-02-21T21:12:48 < Steffanx> edison in 2018. Only one who does that, isnt it englishman?
2018-02-21T21:12:49 < zyp> but I'm not sure what else to throw in, maybe just a phy for direct ethernet to stm32
2018-02-21T21:13:02 < zyp> well, I did most of the design of that in 2016 :p
2018-02-21T21:13:57 < upgrdman> that pcb reminds me: for mounting holes: some people use non-plated, some just plate the hole but not an annulus, some plate the hole and annulus, some even put big solder blobs on the annulus (like motherboards) ... why
2018-02-21T21:14:33 < upgrdman> im guessing solder blobs are for more meat for lock washers to bite into. but the other 3 possibilites...
2018-02-21T21:15:35 < zyp> sometimes you want grounded mounting holes, sometimes you don't
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2018-02-21T21:24:23 < Adluc> Hello, I have STM32L431, loading image through gdb successes, but data are not in flash, does anyone else had similar problem?
2018-02-21T21:24:24 < Adluc> http://lpaste.net/362760
2018-02-21T21:24:59 < Adluc> flash is empty, and starting the program maps system memory to 0x00000000, as the flash is empty (which is)
2018-02-21T21:26:01 < qyx> interesting
2018-02-21T21:27:28 < zyp> which gdbserver?
2018-02-21T21:27:31 < Adluc> soldered the chip on two different boards to cross-test it, will try different st-link just in case
2018-02-21T21:27:33 < Adluc> black magic proble
2018-02-21T21:27:55 < Adluc> GNU gdb (GNU Tools for Arm Embedded Processors 7-2017-q4-major) 8.0.50.20171128-git
2018-02-21T21:28:41 < zyp> hmm, I haven't seen that
2018-02-21T21:28:44 < zyp> I also use bmp
2018-02-21T21:29:50 < zyp> oh, wait, I haven't used L4
2018-02-21T21:30:08 < zyp> what does it print in the scan list?
2018-02-21T21:30:29 < zyp> i.e. when you do mon swdp_scan
2018-02-21T21:35:06 < Adluc> zyp: something not quite right http://lpaste.net/362761
2018-02-21T21:35:12 < Adluc> will try different bmp
2018-02-21T21:35:27 < zyp> that makes sense
2018-02-21T21:35:52 < zyp> firmware doesn't have flash driver support for L4, then it gets recognized as just the cpu
2018-02-21T21:36:37 < zyp> you'll get all other features, just not flash write
2018-02-21T21:36:56 < qyx> zyp: reading about your edison.. check dragino HE
2018-02-21T21:37:41 < zyp> looks like carambola
2018-02-21T21:38:12 < qyx> whats cramanbola
2018-02-21T21:38:18 < zyp> not vey interested in AR9331 based solutions
2018-02-21T21:38:37 < zyp> https://www.8devices.com/products/carambola-2
2018-02-21T21:38:45 < qyx> not open enuf?
2018-02-21T21:39:01 < qyx> mhm the edison is neither, isn't it?
2018-02-21T21:39:20 < zyp> more like too low specs, needs to run a super stripped distro
2018-02-21T21:39:45 < zyp> kinda defeats the point of throwing linux in there in the first place
2018-02-21T21:40:06 < qyx> not a problem imho, openwrt has very well maintained port for ar9331
2018-02-21T21:40:28 < qyx> with all the stuff and web interface
2018-02-21T21:40:40 < qyx> you could just make a lua plugin for luci
2018-02-21T21:40:47 < zyp> no.
2018-02-21T21:40:51 < qyx> ok, no.
2018-02-21T21:41:27 < zyp> :p
2018-02-21T21:41:37 < qyx> but I would do that.
2018-02-21T21:41:58 < zyp> sure, but that's not what I want to do
2018-02-21T21:42:37 < qyx> I need to check hows the newer carambola supported
2018-02-21T21:42:45 < qyx> I mean the Lima
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2018-02-21T21:49:55 < zyp> my point is just if I need to shoehorn the features I want into limited space and some specific frameworks, I might as well just hook a phy to the stm32, throw in lwip and implement it directly there
2018-02-21T21:50:36 < qyx> I understand, but edison..
2018-02-21T21:51:36 < zyp> size is decent, availability seemed to be good at the time, considering it was backed by a major company, not some random startup
2018-02-21T21:52:06 < zyp> and it has like four gigs of emmc and 512mb ram, or whatever it was
2018-02-21T21:52:31 < zyp> apart from that, yeah, it's not very good
2018-02-21T21:53:17 < zyp> u-boot needs some out of tree patches, but linux had support for most features in mainline last I dicked around with it
2018-02-21T21:54:26 < zyp> next time I'll be checking mainline support first
2018-02-21T21:55:26 < Steffanx> And temperature range ;)
2018-02-21T21:55:54 < zyp> haha, fair
2018-02-21T21:56:59 < zyp> I wonder how much I'd have to rearrange to throw in rmii instead
2018-02-21T21:57:10 < zyp> I mean, free up the rmii pins and throw in a phy
2018-02-21T22:00:41 < Steffanx> learn to mqtt
2018-02-21T22:01:29 < Steffanx> learn to.
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2018-02-21T22:03:15 < BrainDam1> from which authority?
2018-02-21T22:03:52 < BrainDam1> did they finally notice you?
2018-02-21T22:08:56 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-21T22:09:22 < zyp> 8 out of the 9 pins I'd need for RMII are allocated to something else and would have to be moved
2018-02-21T22:10:14 < zyp> but I still have 22 spare gpios, and removing the edison will clear up another 6
2018-02-21T22:23:54 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/a38a4a9316/87359.png
2018-02-21T22:24:00 < Laurenceb> conductor we have a problem
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2018-02-21T22:28:18 < BrainDam1> crt: it's only 9 pm here
2018-02-21T22:31:21 < englishman> zyp: i have some edisons i can sell you
2018-02-21T22:31:24 < englishman> $2.5k each
2018-02-21T22:31:34 < zyp> no thanks
2018-02-21T22:31:41 < englishman> no prob, i can wati
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2018-02-21T22:46:33 < rajkosto> anyone know what dc2dc comes in this silly package ? https://images.sshnuke.net/2018-02-21_21-46-24.jpg
2018-02-21T22:47:07 < zyp> that DFN?
2018-02-21T22:47:20 < rajkosto> buck converter, 5V in, 1V out (currently set) 10 pin, 5 pins on each side
2018-02-21T22:47:20 < zyp> I think there's plenty of dcdc regs in DFN
2018-02-21T22:47:32 < englishman> i agree
2018-02-21T22:47:39 < englishman> a&o comes to mind
2018-02-21T22:47:43 < rajkosto> 0ohm resistor on left is 0805
2018-02-21T22:48:13 < englishman> ti, for sure
2018-02-21T22:48:20 < rajkosto> do they all have same pinout ?
2018-02-21T22:48:31 < rajkosto> i need replacement for whatever this is
2018-02-21T22:48:52 < englishman> what are the chip markings, hard to make out there
2018-02-21T22:49:00 < rajkosto> i never was able to google anything
2018-02-21T22:49:50 < rajkosto> 3A 2E
2018-02-21T22:49:51 < rajkosto> 139
2018-02-21T22:51:10 < rajkosto> or T39
2018-02-21T22:51:43 < rajkosto> actually, on the pic the bottom is completely different and the top is 2H ?
2018-02-21T22:51:46 < rajkosto> its from 2 different boards
2018-02-21T22:51:48 < rajkosto> im reading a diff one
2018-02-21T22:52:02 < rajkosto> so only the 3A is constant
2018-02-21T22:56:18 < englishman> https://www.richtek.com/assets/product_file/RT8071A/DS8071A-01.pdf
2018-02-21T22:56:51 < rajkosto> amasing
2018-02-21T22:56:51 < englishman> looks like pinout matches
2018-02-21T22:57:43 < rajkosto> mine only seems to have SW connected at pin 7
2018-02-21T22:58:45 < rajkosto> nvm
2018-02-21T22:58:47 < rajkosto> wasnt scraping hard enough
2018-02-21T22:59:08 < rajkosto> richtek gives samples :P
2018-02-21T22:59:34 < englishman> my bill is in the mail
2018-02-21T23:01:41 < rajkosto> i received samples from them before, was very fast WPX/DHL/whatever
2018-02-21T23:02:11 < rajkosto> aww free sample for this one not avaialble
2018-02-21T23:14:12 < rajkosto> all the other ones have different pinout
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2018-02-21T23:18:55 < rajkosto> they have eval board with 8071C on it though :P
2018-02-21T23:19:10 < Adluc> zyp: flashing new bmp fixes the flash problem
2018-02-21T23:20:25 < zyp> nice
2018-02-21T23:20:44 < zyp> hrm
2018-02-21T23:21:02 < zyp> my spi reads are somehow missing a bit
2018-02-21T23:21:26 < zyp> I'm getting 0xfeff, 0xfebd, I should have been getting 0xffff, 0xffbd
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2018-02-21T23:21:46 < zyp> logic analyzer shows I have the right value on the bus
2018-02-21T23:22:05 < zyp> but usb gives me the wrong value
2018-02-21T23:23:06 < fest> any eagle pros here? contractor is telling me he can't export 3d model of the board, it has to go through some kind of Eagle web service
2018-02-21T23:23:16 < fest> I smell BS... eagle can't be that bad, right?
2018-02-21T23:23:30 < zyp> dunno, last I used eagle they didn't even have any 3d
2018-02-21T23:24:31 < fest> http://dangerousprototypes.com/blog/2012/03/20/how-to-build-3d-models-from-eagle-files-wiki-page/
2018-02-21T23:24:33 < fest> lol
2018-02-21T23:24:39 < fest> and he was telling me how kicad sucks
2018-02-21T23:24:44 < englishman> sounds like something autodicks would do
2018-02-21T23:24:54 < englishman> is he currently in this channel
2018-02-21T23:30:05 < Steffanx> newest EAGLE does some 3d stuff right?
2018-02-21T23:30:26 < Steffanx> it even does  Fusion 360 Integration
2018-02-21T23:30:56 < kakimir> how to build 3d models from kicad files!!!
2018-02-21T23:31:03 < Steffanx> that tutorial is soooo old mr fest
2018-02-21T23:32:13 < kakimir> when I ask how to get 3d model of 3d scene in kicad I hear only silence!
2018-02-21T23:33:04 < Steffanx> but that is because you are kakimir and using kicad
2018-02-21T23:33:16 < kakimir> punishment
2018-02-21T23:33:24 < Steffanx> absolutely
2018-02-21T23:34:47 < Steffanx> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs6NG4WIcAAfouR.jpg:large
2018-02-21T23:35:52 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-21T23:36:11 < Steffanx> and what stops you from going to sleep superbia?
2018-02-21T23:37:30 < Steffanx> they wont have it fixed today, just go to bed
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2018-02-21T23:38:19 < zyp> anybody had an issue with corrupt LSB on SPI reads on f4?
2018-02-21T23:38:54 < zyp> I'm consistently reading 0xfeff, LA shows 0xffff on the bus
2018-02-21T23:39:36 < zyp> I checked the buffer on the MCU, it also stores 0xfeff, so it doesn't get corrupted during usb transfer
2018-02-21T23:40:20 < zyp> oh
2018-02-21T23:40:52 < zyp> there's an errata on it
2018-02-21T23:41:28 < zyp> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/errata_sheet/0a/98/58/84/86/b6/47/a2/DM00037591.pdf/files/DM00037591.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00037591.pdf
2018-02-21T23:41:31 < zyp> 2.5.2
2018-02-21T23:42:56 < zyp> okay, SCK speed workaround works
2018-02-21T23:45:33 < zyp> looks like I got the CT polarity backwards
2018-02-21T23:45:35 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/xn12I
2018-02-21T23:45:57 < zyp> and I still need to set the correct gain factors
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2018-02-21T23:55:39 < fest> kakimir: kicad nightlies export STEP of the whole board just fine
2018-02-21T23:55:51 < kakimir> ? :o
2018-02-21T23:55:54 < kakimir> howe?
2018-02-21T23:56:35 < fest> kakimir: in pcbnew, file->export->step
2018-02-21T23:56:59 < fest> but yes, this feature is not in the stable version yet
2018-02-21T23:57:00 < kakimir> oh
2018-02-21T23:57:11 < kakimir> I have never used stable
2018-02-21T23:57:17 < kakimir> not ever ever
2018-02-21T23:59:39 < rajkosto> i cant figure out any difference between RT8071A/C/D
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2018-02-22T00:06:49 < rajkosto> but feeding it 12V as VIN would probably have killed it, yea ?
2018-02-22T00:07:06 < kakimir> diyes
2018-02-22T00:07:15 < kakimir> yes*
2018-02-22T00:07:21 < rajkosto> (it says range is up to like 6V)
2018-02-22T00:07:42 < rajkosto> that board has that 0ohm resistor to choose between 5V/12V source as VIN... i switched it to 12V to see what would happen
2018-02-22T00:08:30 < rajkosto> (because 5V regulator was dead at that point in time i wanted to see if this one worked)
2018-02-22T00:10:11 < kakimir> good jub
2018-02-22T00:10:33 < rajkosto> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2018-02-22T00:10:34 < rajkosto> it blew the fuse
2018-02-22T00:11:03 < rajkosto> i have the 5V regulator working now but this one isnt
2018-02-22T00:12:08 < kakimir> ?
2018-02-22T00:14:01 < kakimir> I can not understand
2018-02-22T00:19:31 < rajkosto> is there  a reason these regulators have 6V VIN limit when their slightly larger SOIC-8 brethren (like APW7142) can do up to 19V in just fine
2018-02-22T00:23:20 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-22T00:26:14 < R0b0t1> rajkosto: The die may be a lot larger which allows it to transfer more heat in the latter case
2018-02-22T00:26:19 < R0b0t1> Or they're just making numbers up
2018-02-22T00:26:26 < R0b0t1> Sometimes there's not a good reason for anything
2018-02-22T00:26:31 < R0b0t1> But it's hard to prove
2018-02-22T00:31:24 < zyp> heh
2018-02-22T00:32:19 < zyp> I were measuring around on the voltage divider on the input of this metering circuit, couldn't get the measurements to make much sense
2018-02-22T00:33:00 < zyp> took me too long to realize that the impedance of the multimeter is fucking up everything
2018-02-22T00:33:21 < zyp> metering divider is like 1.7Mohm
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2018-02-22T00:39:34 < karlp> is this for the mains voltage sensing divider?
2018-02-22T00:39:45 < zyp> yes
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2018-02-22T00:39:56 < karlp> I think we've only got like 500k on ours, 1.7M is shitheaps
2018-02-22T00:40:17 < zyp> I copied appnote design
2018-02-22T00:40:48 < karlp> yeah, us too :)
2018-02-22T00:40:55 < karlp> 1.7M stills ounds like shitloads
2018-02-22T00:41:03 < zyp> yes
2018-02-22T00:41:42 < zyp> 230V is like 19% of full scale
2018-02-22T00:42:12 < karlp> sure you copied the right appnote? :)
2018-02-22T00:42:42 < zyp> but there's a PGA that can be configured between 1x, 2x and 4x
2018-02-22T00:44:48 < zyp> not really concerned about that
2018-02-22T00:45:26 < zyp> I'm just annoyed that they don't document the math between the adc input, the gain factor and the output reading
2018-02-22T00:45:32 < karlp> on the one we've got, the pga settings other than 1x are completely shit
2018-02-22T00:45:52 < karlp> at least on the current inputs
2018-02-22T00:46:43 < zyp> I don't want to derive the gain factor from empirical measurements, I want to calculate it :p
2018-02-22T00:47:23 < zyp> the latter is likely more correct given I don't have much useful equipment for measuring against :p
2018-02-22T00:48:11 < zyp> this voltage angle stuff is cute
2018-02-22T00:48:19 < karlp> yeah, the one we use was super vague on it,
2018-02-22T00:48:28 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/owC72 <- I hooked L1 and L2 together, that's pretty obvious :p
2018-02-22T00:48:30 < karlp> they really just say you should calibrate it to determine the wh/lsb value
2018-02-22T00:49:11 < karlp> so is N curent there just sum of l123 or what?
2018-02-22T00:49:18 < karlp> or did you get a 4th ct?
2018-02-22T00:49:32 < zyp> it's calculated, chip does it
2018-02-22T00:49:58 < zyp> register description is «N Line Calculated Current RMS»
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2018-02-22T00:53:44 < Laurenceb_> muh influxdb
2018-02-22T00:58:22 < Laurenceb_> this signifies the autists unfamiliarity with data handling
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2018-02-22T01:00:16 < Steffanx> Laurenceb included right?
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2018-02-22T01:01:05 < Laurenceb_> wut
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2018-02-22T01:36:30 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/hv5J7 <- this looks reasonable enough
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2018-02-22T01:36:56 < zyp> testing with my heat gun as dummy load, it's rated for 1kW/2kW
2018-02-22T01:37:27 < zyp> and yes, voltage is that much higher than nominal
2018-02-22T01:37:59 < zyp> I figure transformer is lightly loaded at this hour
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2018-02-22T02:18:03 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/a38a4a9316/87409.jpg
2018-02-22T02:30:29 < Laurenceb_> I'm in jail
2018-02-22T03:36:41 < aandrew> dongs: have you got an stm32discovery board pinout
2018-02-22T03:36:46 < aandrew> er not pinout, footprint
2018-02-22T03:39:33 < dongs> lke F1-disco?
2018-02-22T03:39:44 < dongs> nope but its 2.54mm pitch spacing
2018-02-22T03:41:01 < aandrew> no I know the pins are standard 0.100" spacing dual row x long
2018-02-22T03:41:04 < aandrew> just was being lazy
2018-02-22T03:41:19 < dongs> right i mean the spwacing between 2 rows is also multiple of 2.54
2018-02-22T03:41:22 < dongs> so its trivial to make
2018-02-22T03:41:37 < dongs> i think i did once but it might have been for f4disco or something
2018-02-22T03:41:56 < aandrew> ah
2018-02-22T03:42:16 < aandrew> honestly I wonder if it's more work to use the fucking disco than it is just to plop an f4 down on to a bare pcb and do it my way
2018-02-22T03:43:21 < dongs> the correct answer is rageberrypi zero
2018-02-22T03:43:32 < aandrew> lol
2018-02-22T03:43:42 < aandrew> no, I'm testing mosfet shits
2018-02-22T03:43:47 < dongs> with gpio toggled by a 100meg python runtime
2018-02-22T03:44:00 < dongs> by editing files in /proc/gpio/fuckoff
2018-02-22T03:44:03 < dongs> and writing 1 or 0 to them
2018-02-22T03:44:24 < aandrew> got a constellation of high current 740nm LEDs I need to pulse 100us each in turn, but get repeatable and measurable current/voltage to them
2018-02-22T03:44:44 < aandrew> so my thoght was to use a regular old led driver for current limit capability, htey have shit turn on speed but the load regulation is pretty decent
2018-02-22T03:45:19 < aandrew> so put 20 leds with 20 mosfets driven with some logic and stm32 to do timer shits and to sample dual SPI adc at 3msps to read current/voltage waveforms
2018-02-22T03:45:32 < aandrew> eventual circuit will ditch the stm32 and drive the leds with an fpga
2018-02-22T03:45:50 < aandrew> adcs are just for measuring what the actual power delivered to the LEDs is during that 100us pulse
2018-02-22T03:46:24 < dongs> sounds like a kikemir-class project
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2018-02-22T03:49:40 < aandrew> that's only half the project. the other half drives a linear CCD imager
2018-02-22T03:49:45 < aandrew> but that's all fpga,
2018-02-22T03:51:37 < dongs> oh its that proj
2018-02-22T03:53:03 < ffffffffffffffff> cheapest DMM I can use in sigrok?
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2018-02-22T03:53:27 < dongs> eevbeg stm32/wifi enabled dmm
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2018-02-22T04:17:19 < upgrdman> https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/jalandhar-woman-severs-husband-s-genitals-over-alleged-affair-flushes-them-down-the-toilet/story-2Cybkv0ZpHTIhNzYTmUt1J.html
2018-02-22T04:17:35 < upgrdman> Punjab woman severs husband’s genitals over alleged affair, flushes them down the toilet
2018-02-22T04:17:36 < upgrdman> The woman first hit her husband with a rod when he was sleeping which left him unconscious. Then, she chopped off his private parts with a knife and then disposed them in a toilet, according to the police.
2018-02-22T04:18:32 < dongs> haha that site tried to open a small popup off-screen
2018-02-22T04:18:40 < dongs> probly to mine shitcoin
2018-02-22T04:19:11 < upgrdman> lol
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2018-02-22T05:14:59 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/ew0iwku8ehh01.jpg
2018-02-22T05:15:08 < upgrdman> "in the cooking section"
2018-02-22T05:20:31 < dongs> fake *AND* gay
2018-02-22T05:20:33 < dongs> a rare combo
2018-02-22T05:22:23 < branjb> lol
2018-02-22T05:22:40 < branjb> what kind of tricks can your raspberry pi do?
2018-02-22T05:22:44 < branjb> mine can sit and roll over
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2018-02-22T05:47:14 < upgrdman> so i've seen some video clips on reddit about how to tie shoe laces quicker. wtf. am i the only one that ties my laces on new shoes, and then just slips the shoes on/off after that. maybe tightening the laces after a little break in or whatever.
2018-02-22T05:47:33 < upgrdman> who the fucks ties/unties every god damn time
2018-02-22T05:47:40 < branjb> upgrdman no I tie my shoes about once a month
2018-02-22T05:47:46 < branjb> sometimes they eventually come undone
2018-02-22T05:47:57 < upgrdman> monthly is sane
2018-02-22T05:49:11 < upgrdman> typical woman gamer  https://orig00.deviantart.net/6f40/f/2011/013/6/5/6559035d7a138184ad511e658149b399-d3740yk.jpg
2018-02-22T05:50:29 < branjb> >deviantart
2018-02-22T05:50:49 < branjb> the xkcd drink is a nice touch
2018-02-22T05:53:44 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/ith1Opw.gifv
2018-02-22T05:54:47 < branjb> that's hilarious
2018-02-22T05:57:38 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/objrwaq.gifv
2018-02-22T05:58:14 < dongs> upgrdJEW don't you have a job
2018-02-22T05:58:33 < dongs> they need to send you to china again
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2018-02-22T06:32:25 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/PVa60tN.gifv
2018-02-22T06:38:42 < upgrdman> dongs, https://youtu.be/N1LVktHzpnw?t=1178
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2018-02-22T06:44:04 < dongs> sorry i dont want to watch trannies getting paid on youtube
2018-02-22T06:44:26 < dongs> Paul Noel
2018-02-22T06:44:26 < dongs> 2 hours ago
2018-02-22T06:44:26 < dongs> Naomi really is a trail blazer for China in so many ways.  She is setting an example for many others to start their dreams.  She really is very smart and very pretty.  She has demonstrated that she is so cute even overalls look amazing too.
2018-02-22T06:44:32 < dongs> oh get the fuck out stupid fucking weeb
2018-02-22T06:44:55 < dongs> im gonna see if I can slash this cunts tires when im in shitzen next month
2018-02-22T06:45:04 < dongs> fucking attention whore tranny
2018-02-22T06:45:09 < dongs> worse than leeloo
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2018-02-22T08:59:11 < qyx> 249V
2018-02-22T08:59:16 < qyx> zyp will be on fire soon
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2018-02-22T09:21:55 < kakimir> hello wizards
2018-02-22T09:36:04 < dongs> crt, cleaning out my office after the fire
2018-02-22T09:36:20 < dongs> the 1-2 weeks ago lipo fire shit.
2018-02-22T09:36:29 < dongs> i finally got tired of tripping over extinguisher powder
2018-02-22T09:36:34 < dongs> yes
2018-02-22T09:37:29 < jadew> dongs, how did that fire started?
2018-02-22T09:37:31 < jadew> what caused it?
2018-02-22T09:37:42 < dongs> jadew, by charging 4S 10Ah lipo wiht 1cell dead
2018-02-22T09:37:43 < jadew> I thought it was something you did intentionally
2018-02-22T09:37:48 < dongs> and having 3 other ~10Ah lipos in the area
2018-02-22T09:37:50 < dongs> laying around
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2018-02-22T09:38:09 < qyx> without balancer/monitor?
2018-02-22T09:38:14 < dongs> as Pb
2018-02-22T09:38:19 < qyx> lulz
2018-02-22T09:38:21 < kakimir> smart move
2018-02-22T09:38:21 < dongs> ^_^
2018-02-22T09:38:23 < jadew> how much current was going through them?
2018-02-22T09:38:29 < dongs> probly aroudn 1A
2018-02-22T09:38:32 < dongs> i forget
2018-02-22T09:38:34 < dongs> what i set it to
2018-02-22T09:38:43 < kakimir> just plug it in
2018-02-22T09:38:56 < kakimir> was it like actual fire
2018-02-22T09:39:05 < kakimir> or just smoke
2018-02-22T09:39:10 < qyx> no video footage?
2018-02-22T09:39:31 < jadew> should have grabbed the camera the moment you smelled something
2018-02-22T09:40:10 < jadew> dongs, how do you know one of them was dead?
2018-02-22T09:40:17 < dongs> jadew: cuz i let it discharge
2018-02-22T09:40:22 < dongs> i *really* need to build that cutoff circuit
2018-02-22T09:40:32 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-22T09:40:38 < kakimir> did you say 4s?
2018-02-22T09:40:39 < dongs> that will just stop draining it at 3.2V/cell or wahtever
2018-02-22T09:40:40 < dongs> yes
2018-02-22T09:40:56 < kakimir> I'm working on 4S BMS
2018-02-22T09:41:03 < dongs> i bet
2018-02-22T09:41:11 < dongs> protip: don't let it end in a fire
2018-02-22T09:41:22 < kakimir> I wonder if I should leak schematic for you
2018-02-22T09:41:32 < qyx> you can leak it for me
2018-02-22T09:41:42 < kakimir> or send one proto board
2018-02-22T09:41:43 < dongs> kakimir: also, an actual fire, it was charging in my server rack room, which is small cement room
2018-02-22T09:41:43 < jadew> dongs, shouldn't such a circuit also increase the cutoff voltage with time?
2018-02-22T09:41:46 < jadew> as the battery ages
2018-02-22T09:41:51 < dongs> wifecop was like "holy shit there's fire ocming out from under teh door"
2018-02-22T09:42:05 < kakimir> there is wifecop?
2018-02-22T09:42:11 < dongs> opened that shit up and its blazing
2018-02-22T09:42:29 < jadew> lol
2018-02-22T09:42:37 < dongs> fuckin dongs
2018-02-22T09:42:54 < dongs> anyway i still need to clean up teh rack and some storage shit thats in there
2018-02-22T09:42:59 < dongs> its all covered with soot/powder
2018-02-22T09:43:09 < kakimir> wow kicad has footprint wizards
2018-02-22T09:43:45 < kakimir> I have been complaining there isn't but there has been wizard whole the time
2018-02-22T09:44:05 < kakimir> dongs, how much amps you pull?
2018-02-22T09:44:12 < dongs> in what
2018-02-22T09:44:21 < kakimir> and would one BMS board do?
2018-02-22T09:44:26 < dongs> oh, the batterY?
2018-02-22T09:44:35 < dongs> its like 60mA @ 5V
2018-02-22T09:44:43 < dongs> the point is running it for ~weeks
2018-02-22T09:44:48 < dongs> which is why I forget about teh fucking thing
2018-02-22T09:44:52 < dongs> and end up overdischarging it
2018-02-22T09:45:17 < kakimir> hey.. my ultrabuck project does just that
2018-02-22T09:45:23 < kakimir> 5volts out
2018-02-22T09:45:27 < kakimir> low Iq
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2018-02-22T09:45:33 < dongs> but does it cutoff lipo
2018-02-22T09:45:36 < kakimir> UVLO
2018-02-22T09:45:37 < dongs> if not then: worthless
2018-02-22T09:45:39 < kakimir> yes it does
2018-02-22T09:45:44 < dongs> really
2018-02-22T09:45:48 < kakimir> really
2018-02-22T09:45:51 < qyx> really?
2018-02-22T09:45:55 < kakimir> really
2018-02-22T09:46:08 < qyx> uvlo as a whole?
2018-02-22T09:46:18 < qyx> or every cell monitored separately
2018-02-22T09:46:22 < kakimir> whole
2018-02-22T09:46:27 < qyx> no gud
2018-02-22T09:46:39 < kakimir> better than nothin
2018-02-22T09:47:28 < qyx> I was hoping that you will leak me some genius idea on how to monitor individual cells without using $$$ ics
2018-02-22T09:47:53 < qyx> or transformers or differential amps and things like that
2018-02-22T09:47:56 < kakimir> how many?
2018-02-22T09:48:09 < qyx> 4-6
2018-02-22T09:48:12 < kakimir> and do you need to actually output information?
2018-02-22T09:48:14 < dongs> qyx, what IC is there to monitor 4S like that?
2018-02-22T09:48:17 < kakimir> or just cutoff?
2018-02-22T09:48:19 < kakimir> and balance?
2018-02-22T09:48:29 < qyx> dongs: there are some linears
2018-02-22T09:48:33 < qyx> for 12 cells
2018-02-22T09:48:33 < dongs> oh right
2018-02-22T09:48:35 < dongs> so $
2018-02-22T09:48:36 < qyx> also blancers
2018-02-22T09:48:38 < qyx> yep
2018-02-22T09:49:08 < qyx> kakimir: balancing is easy with mosfets and caps and dual inductors
2018-02-22T09:49:32 < kakimir> I don't undestand
2018-02-22T09:49:58 < qyx> active flyback balancing
2018-02-22T09:51:18 < qyx> kakimir: http://www.electronicdesign.com/sites/electronicdesign.com/files/uploads/2013/02/0307_TVpower_F3.gif
2018-02-22T09:51:38 < qyx> replace the LT6802 with ~anything
2018-02-22T09:53:12 < kakimir> yes and then there is getting things done - in time, within budget
2018-02-22T09:53:29 < kakimir> using chineseum BMS ics
2018-02-22T09:56:54 < kakimir> fukin microchip
2018-02-22T09:57:03 < kakimir> their links are broken
2018-02-22T09:57:26 < kakimir> attiny
2018-02-22T09:58:17 < kakimir> dongs, you want my ultrabuck?
2018-02-22T10:00:57 < kakimir> I would be nice to actually give dongs something he could find useful
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2018-02-22T10:06:02 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1te8UQp1HzjdV4ThddQsXVTfUDL1xfkYc/view?usp=sharing this thing
2018-02-22T10:06:15 < kakimir> it hase even alarm output for low battery
2018-02-22T10:08:05 < dongs> cool
2018-02-22T10:08:17 < dongs> where does it show cutoff
2018-02-22T10:08:22 < dongs> cuz i see it still drawing
2018-02-22T10:09:40 < kakimir> cutoff is set with resistors when all leds go dark or turn on
2018-02-22T10:09:54 < kakimir> red is undervoltage alarm and green is power good
2018-02-22T10:10:28 < dongs> ya wiht 60mA draw i donno if i wanna spend even 2mA of that on a led
2018-02-22T10:10:38 < kakimir> those are behind a jumper
2018-02-22T10:10:40 < kakimir> or smd switch
2018-02-22T10:11:15 < kakimir> without leds the whole thing pulls like few dozen microamps
2018-02-22T10:11:26 < kakimir> 5V1A output
2018-02-22T10:12:28 < kakimir> there is a connection for alarm output too that is pulled down iirc when alarm is on
2018-02-22T10:13:00 < kakimir> with the same nmos that pulls led down accordingly
2018-02-22T10:20:29 < qyx> I am curious why didn't you go powerbank style with 1SnP and stepup
2018-02-22T10:20:50 < qyx> with 5V out there is no sense in using 4S battery
2018-02-22T10:21:20 < qyx> and you don't have to monitor cells and do balancing
2018-02-22T10:21:39 < qyx> but then dongs can just buy a china powerbank
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2018-02-22T10:27:18 < Thorn> are bulk pipes limited to 1000 transfers / second (FS) or does tha only apply to interrupt ones?
2018-02-22T10:27:46 < zyp> the latter
2018-02-22T10:28:01 < zyp> bulk transfers are scheduled ASAP
2018-02-22T10:29:48 < zyp> 5.8.4 in the USB spec has theoretical throughput numbers
2018-02-22T10:30:41 < zyp> tl;dr: best case throughput 19 packets of 64 bytes per frame gives 1216 bytes per frame, 1.216 MB/s
2018-02-22T10:34:28 < Thorn> ok thanks
2018-02-22T10:34:46 < Thorn> stm8 prices keep rising attn englishman :(
2018-02-22T10:37:02 < Thorn> lol @ allpcb pricing, the price rises fast with board size but not with # of boards (5 and 25 boards are within 30% of each other)
2018-02-22T10:37:34 < dongs> isnt that fucking obvious?
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2018-02-22T10:37:57 < dongs> you do realize when making production pcb making 10 or 100 is nearly same cost right
2018-02-22T10:38:00 < dongs> material-waste-wise
2018-02-22T10:49:20 < zyp> yeah, for low numbers a big part of the price is NRE, which means that the number itself doesn't change the price so much
2018-02-22T11:01:30 < dongs> zyp i hope there's more ll shit to assemble later
2018-02-22T11:01:37 < dongs> i went through all my 'zyp garbage' boxes
2018-02-22T11:01:46 < dongs> and I found 2-3 sets of parts
2018-02-22T11:01:51 < dongs> (mostly used, of course)
2018-02-22T11:02:05 < dongs> so i got like ~6 extra ethernet phys and dc/dc and shit
2018-02-22T11:02:16 < dongs> the only thing thats preventing me from maknig > 36 now is STM32 and 32khz xtal
2018-02-22T11:02:24 < dongs> everything else there's a bit extra of everything
2018-02-22T11:03:04 < zyp> I hope so too
2018-02-22T11:13:07 < Thorn> pcbway pricing is significantly different though, board size under 50x50(?)mm doesn't change the price while # of boards does, a lot
2018-02-22T11:13:36 < Thorn> it's probably their attempts at marketing
2018-02-22T11:13:43 < dongs> could also be how they're doing them
2018-02-22T11:14:13 < dongs> they could be arraying a bunch together into a larger sheet and that increases mask costs
2018-02-22T11:14:22 < dongs> treating it as separate designs and cutting later
2018-02-22T11:14:23 < emeryth> all the cheap fabs have a 10x10cm limit before prices go straight up
2018-02-22T11:14:46 < dongs> er mask = film
2018-02-22T11:16:40 < zyp> Thorn, well, there's NRE for the entire design, there's handling cost per board and then there's area cost per board
2018-02-22T11:16:52 < zyp> probably an area component in the NRE as well
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2018-02-22T11:25:59 < stvn> identify stm32
2018-02-22T11:27:30 < Steffanx> stroopwaffle.
2018-02-22T11:27:36 < stvn> hi sir
2018-02-22T11:27:40 < stvn> thankyou for coming
2018-02-22T11:27:56 < stvn> kanjers is a staple piece of innovation
2018-02-22T11:28:12 < stvn> tct is probably innovating right now
2018-02-22T11:28:23 < stvn> lol
2018-02-22T11:28:35 < Steffanx> How much left?
2018-02-22T11:29:36 < stvn> plenty
2018-02-22T11:29:44 < Steffanx> > 1kg?
2018-02-22T11:30:14 < stvn> i've had 1 full packet
2018-02-22T11:30:24 < stvn> so 4x2 wafl
2018-02-22T11:31:06 < Steffanx> Ooh.
2018-02-22T11:31:30 < Steffanx> They are due end of semptember iirc. So there is time
2018-02-22T11:31:37 < stvn> of course
2018-02-22T11:31:50 < stvn> i'll use some to refine meth
2018-02-22T11:34:21 < stvn> want to
2018-02-22T11:34:43 < stvn> what are you making today sir
2018-02-22T11:40:24 < qyx> it is not possible to position the ADC sampling at an arbitrary time, is it
2018-02-22T11:40:37 < qyx> even when triggered by a timer, it is synchronized to the ADC clock
2018-02-22T11:43:39 < stvn> i wonder what you are trying to do there
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2018-02-22T11:53:54 < dongs> triggered
2018-02-22T11:54:59 < stvn> yeah i did chuckle inside there.
2018-02-22T11:58:12 < qyx> tdr measurement
2018-02-22T11:58:32 < qyx> looks like an external sample&hlod and F343 hrtimer is a viable option
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2018-02-22T12:08:03 < dongs> tldr measurement
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2018-02-22T12:12:32 < stvn> oh senpai
2018-02-22T12:20:18 < stvn> how much do you charge per hour for pro keiling?
2018-02-22T12:20:36 < dongs> well i have a minimum charge of $500 to doubleclick keil.exe
2018-02-22T12:20:44 < stvn> sounds fair
2018-02-22T12:20:45 < dongs> whether I will do anything in it after that or not
2018-02-22T12:20:53 < kakimir> I'm squattin on my chair
2018-02-22T12:20:53 < dongs> and then $97/hour
2018-02-22T12:21:14 < stvn> usd
2018-02-22T12:21:19 < dongs> not aud obv
2018-02-22T12:21:22 < stvn> :P
2018-02-22T12:21:55 < stvn> do you do DSP
2018-02-22T12:22:21 < dongs> no
2018-02-22T12:22:24 < dongs> i only steal IP
2018-02-22T12:22:37 < stvn> sounds good to me
2018-02-22T12:23:16 < stvn> do you offer pumping services
2018-02-22T12:26:31 < dongs> thats acutally all i offer
2018-02-22T12:27:02 < stvn> very good
2018-02-22T12:27:19 < stvn> i might need to employ board assembly soon
2018-02-22T12:27:30 < stvn> because the china aint doing it good
2018-02-22T12:27:34 < karlp> stupid computer can't play kak's video
2018-02-22T12:27:36 < dongs> cool
2018-02-22T12:27:38 < karlp> stupid freedom nerds
2018-02-22T12:27:41 < dongs> karlp: stop using lunix
2018-02-22T12:27:46 < dongs> works finr for me on windows 10
2018-02-22T12:28:27 < stvn> he posted something?
2018-02-22T12:28:45 < dongs> yeah that SMA-buck thing
2018-02-22T12:28:50 < stvn> ffs
2018-02-22T12:28:56 < stvn> i thought it was a boost
2018-02-22T12:29:06 < stvn> and i called him a fucking idiot for using a boost to drive leds
2018-02-22T12:29:35 < stvn> i do remember the inductor was reaaaallly pretty
2018-02-22T12:29:40 < stvn> and i wanted him to send it to me
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2018-02-22T13:14:01 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXECaAsYD-s
2018-02-22T13:14:02 < stvn> rofl
2018-02-22T13:14:05 < stvn> wtf is this shit
2018-02-22T13:14:35 < Steffanx> Idk
2018-02-22T13:14:42 < Steffanx> Didnt watch
2018-02-22T13:20:37 < stvn> sniff sniff
2018-02-22T13:20:45 < stvn> somebody is smoking crack in here
2018-02-22T13:25:33 < tomeaton17> nice
2018-02-22T13:26:06 < stvn> yeah
2018-02-22T13:26:08 < stvn> linux?
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2018-02-22T13:37:30 < stvn> where is iggy
2018-02-22T13:41:04 < dongs> missing an n
2018-02-22T13:41:17 < dongs> lost while pumping
2018-02-22T13:41:49 < stvn> ll
2018-02-22T13:41:53 < stvn> missed an o
2018-02-22T13:42:05 < stvn> gt fckd cnt
2018-02-22T13:42:10 < stvn> wanna buy a vowel?
2018-02-22T13:42:56 < Steffanx> Yes.
2018-02-22T13:43:03 < stvn> https://youtu.be/6PU7TAN40Jk?t=2m34s
2018-02-22T13:43:55 < dongs> fleafpga...
2018-02-22T13:44:04 < stvn> rofl
2018-02-22T13:44:50 < dongs> he used to hang out in here
2018-02-22T13:44:53 < dongs> or in #stonertronics
2018-02-22T13:44:56 < dongs> ausfaggot
2018-02-22T13:45:20 < stvn> stonertronics
2018-02-22T13:45:43 < stvn> i like his 1ghz tekscope
2018-02-22T13:45:58 < dongs> with a floppy
2018-02-22T13:46:05 < dongs> my 1ghz without a floppy is better
2018-02-22T13:46:17 < stvn> i know its fucking mdo
2018-02-22T13:46:42 < stvn> did you sell your tek dpo yet?
2018-02-22T13:46:51 < dongs> good fucking question
2018-02-22T13:46:55 < dongs> i forgot
2018-02-22T13:46:55 < stvn> it is
2018-02-22T13:47:11 < dongs> if its not in the other office then yes
2018-02-22T13:47:32 < stvn> you been bonging on hard or what?
2018-02-22T13:47:41 < dongs> wat
2018-02-22T13:47:49 < stvn> you can't remember
2018-02-22T13:47:54 < dongs> yehah im stoned as fuck
2018-02-22T13:47:56 < dongs> but thats normal
2018-02-22T13:47:59 < stvn> fair enough
2018-02-22T13:48:32 < stvn> should have got steffan to send me some
2018-02-22T13:48:37 < stvn> he's the biggest stoner on irc
2018-02-22T13:49:00 < dongs> if you send weed to any random address in japan
2018-02-22T13:49:02 < dongs> the receiver gets arrested
2018-02-22T13:49:05 < dongs> and put in jail
2018-02-22T13:49:09 < stvn> good news
2018-02-22T13:49:16 < stvn> shigeru miyamoto
2018-02-22T13:49:27 < dongs> is that some shitcoinf aggot
2018-02-22T13:49:41 < stvn> nope just that nintendo mario fuck
2018-02-22T13:49:46 < dongs> oh
2018-02-22T13:50:01 < dongs> i'd rather send weed to danny choo
2018-02-22T13:50:06 < dongs> or some other weebtard
2018-02-22T13:50:11 < stvn> who is that
2018-02-22T13:50:16 < dongs> a fucking faggot
2018-02-22T13:50:16 < stvn> oh a weeb
2018-02-22T13:50:18 < dongs> who should die
2018-02-22T13:50:19 < stvn> nuff said
2018-02-22T13:50:22 < stvn> fuck them all
2018-02-22T13:52:09 < dongs> hmm flea86 is not on irc
2018-02-22T13:52:13 < dongs> that was his nick
2018-02-22T13:52:23 < dongs> maybe he quot irc now that he's a kickstarter millionaire
2018-02-22T13:52:45 < dongs> ive been thinking of dickstarting an audiophile shield for rageberrypi zero
2018-02-22T13:53:09 < zyp> complete with vacuum tube?
2018-02-22T13:53:13 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-22T13:53:41 < stvn> yeah do that for sure
2018-02-22T13:53:47 < dongs> special made by noritake
2018-02-22T13:53:55 < dongs> so its flat and square instead of round and tall
2018-02-22T13:54:14 < dongs> http://korgnutube.com/en/
2018-02-22T13:54:21 < stvn> yes
2018-02-22T13:54:25 < stvn> the vfd vacuum tube
2018-02-22T13:54:26 < dongs> I like it how their tagline is
2018-02-22T13:54:37 < stvn> yeah FUCKING NIGGERS EAT THE CURB
2018-02-22T13:54:41 < dongs> 'a new ... which puts vacuum fluorescent dispaly technology to practical use'
2018-02-22T13:54:41 < stvn> i fondly remember that one
2018-02-22T13:54:55 < stvn> anyway
2018-02-22T13:54:55 < zyp> hahaha
2018-02-22T13:55:01 < stvn> you're going to need real CHOOBS mate
2018-02-22T13:55:15 < stvn> 12ax7 or ecc83
2018-02-22T13:55:26 < dongs> gtfo
2018-02-22T13:55:29 < stvn> but remember
2018-02-22T13:55:30 < zyp> that's actually pretty cute
2018-02-22T13:55:32 < dongs> it only needs to LOOK audiophile
2018-02-22T13:55:37 < zyp> probably not useful, but cute
2018-02-22T13:55:43 < stvn> if you don't have A VACUUM TUBE RECTIFIER it will have no 'tone'
2018-02-22T13:55:51 < stvn> fucking no joke (audiophile shit)
2018-02-22T13:56:06 < stvn> it won't 'sag' and
2018-02-22T13:56:12 < stvn> 'break up smoothly'
2018-02-22T13:56:29 < stvn> yeah i love listening to the 50hz line voltage ripple superimposed on my audio
2018-02-22T13:56:32 < stvn> sounds beautiful
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2018-02-22T14:01:51 < dongs> http://korgnutube.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/images/basicsch.png
2018-02-22T14:01:53 < dongs> is this eagle
2018-02-22T14:02:06 < dongs> http://korgnutube.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/images/meassch.png wait looks altium pro
2018-02-22T14:02:17 < zyp> looks like altium to me
2018-02-22T14:02:18 < dongs> but awful symbols
2018-02-22T14:02:23 < zyp> also this: http://korgnutube.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/images/headphoneampkitdiagram.jpg
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2018-02-22T14:04:50 < dongs> https://www.soundhouse.co.jp/search/index/?s_maker_cd=&s_category_cd=350&s_mid_category_cd=&s_large_category_cd=&s_product_cd=&search_all=&sSeriesCd=&sPriceFrom=0&sPriceTo=9999999&i_type=s&i_sub_type=&i_page=1&i_sort=&i_page_size=32&i_ListType=type2&tag=
2018-02-22T14:05:19 < dongs> like over 150 useless sshits
2018-02-22T14:06:22 < stvn> indeed
2018-02-22T14:06:28 < stvn> no telefunken new old stock?
2018-02-22T14:07:06 < stvn> like... you want to get fucking autistic... okay.
2018-02-22T14:07:06 < stvn> https://www.tubedepot.com/products/telefunken-ecc83-12ax7-smooth-plate
2018-02-22T14:07:14 < stvn> that is weapons grade.
2018-02-22T14:07:34 < dongs> haha the price
2018-02-22T14:07:49 < dongs>  They have the <> in the base, say "Made in Germany"
2018-02-22T14:07:49 < dongs> sold
2018-02-22T14:08:17 < stvn> absolutely, 6 million can't be wrong
2018-02-22T14:13:32 < stvn> yeah fuck i should sleep or something, later!
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2018-02-22T14:14:49 < dongs> lol
2018-02-22T14:14:59 < dongs> sadly the fuck is back
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2018-02-22T14:26:41 < c10ud> uhhh, maybe playing with 330VDC on my desk wasn't a great idea: https://imgur.com/3ST3ewW
2018-02-22T14:28:15 < Ultrasauce> every scorch mark is a badge of honour
2018-02-22T14:28:19 < Ultrasauce> like this guy's floor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzXYPL8ztI
2018-02-22T14:29:43 < dongs> c10ud: https://i.imgur.com/tzeuvtL.jpg
2018-02-22T14:30:09 < c10ud> hope you were not holding them with your bare hand
2018-02-22T14:30:14 < dongs> i was
2018-02-22T14:30:25 < c10ud> did it wake you up?
2018-02-22T14:30:55 < jadew> depends what he was doing
2018-02-22T14:31:05 < karlp> looks like it already found it's shortcircuit without going through dongs
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2018-02-22T14:31:12 < jadew> if it was low voltage, it could have melted and he wouldn't have felt anything
2018-02-22T14:31:47 < dongs> yeah it was me shorting 2S2P lipo cell
2018-02-22T14:32:23 < Ultrasauce> a chemical spot welder
2018-02-22T14:33:20 < karlp> is that russian modulating the flame with the music?
2018-02-22T14:33:24 < karlp> it's not really very clear/obvious
2018-02-22T14:33:33 < dongs> yeah what is he even trying to do
2018-02-22T14:34:02 < Ultrasauce> make sure nobody in his building has working wifi hardware ever again
2018-02-22T14:34:54 < dongs> oh is magnetron = microwave shit?
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2018-02-22T14:35:54 < Ultrasauce> yeah driving it with basically a hv audio amplifier
2018-02-22T14:36:32 < Ultrasauce> my favourite part is he's holding a fluorescent light so he can see if he's going to go blind in the next half second
2018-02-22T14:37:04 < karlp> meaning what?
2018-02-22T14:37:07 < dongs> oh thats what hes holding
2018-02-22T14:37:11 < dongs> karlp: the glass tube
2018-02-22T14:37:17 < karlp> if the tube lights up, he's got what, far too much output power?
2018-02-22T14:37:19 < dongs> i guess if radiation(?) escapes the tube will glow
2018-02-22T14:37:21 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-22T14:37:50 < karlp> if it's just a 2.4ghz radiator that will cook him as well as light the tube though
2018-02-22T14:38:07 < Ultrasauce> yeah that's my point, the first thing that happens is your corneas cook like egg whites
2018-02-22T14:38:43 < karlp> if he's got "serious" goggles, it's directional right, so he'll get hot blood but eyes might survive?
2018-02-22T14:38:58 < jpa-> strange tube, it has no phosphor
2018-02-22T14:39:37 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o595xeIoDhw christ
2018-02-22T14:40:30 < jpa-> there was the dude on reddit who managed to cook his arms but got no eye damage
2018-02-22T14:40:45 < dongs> how the fuck do you even do 60kW in residential
2018-02-22T14:41:00 < Ultrasauce> i doubt its running at 60kW, probably just rated for that
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2018-02-22T14:41:46 < c10ud> I've seen some crazy guys attaching stuff directly to single phase residential lines
2018-02-22T14:41:56 < c10ud> but I think that was post-war ucraine so..
2018-02-22T14:43:10 < karlp> you're thinking of the creosan guys
2018-02-22T14:43:53 < c10ud> exactly!
2018-02-22T14:50:05 < zyp> dongs, you don't, 60kW is 87A at 400V 3phase
2018-02-22T14:51:06 < zyp> karlp, is it convention that you always treat L2 as common reference (i.e. in place of N) in 3p3w systems?
2018-02-22T14:57:28 < karlp> no idea sorry, 3p4w all the way everywhere I've been involved personally
2018-02-22T14:57:41 < karlp> but we had some norwegians ask us that sort of thing :)
2018-02-22T14:58:09 < karlp> we fiddled around with some transformers to work it out, and yeah, we had CTS on 1,3 and not on 2 then iirc.
2018-02-22T14:58:16 < karlp> no idea if it's "standard" though
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2018-02-22T15:10:18 < zyp> most stuff I've seen does it like that, I'm just curious if there's a reason
2018-02-22T15:17:14 < zyp> I found out yesterday that the input formula for current channels seems to be Vin / 0.72 * gain * 1.5/64
2018-02-22T15:17:18 < zyp> voltage*
2018-02-22T15:17:31 < zyp> for current channels it seems to be Vin / 0.72 * gain / 64
2018-02-22T15:18:57 < zyp> 0.72V is input full scale (rms), 64 is probably a bitshift, only factor I don't understand is that 1.5x
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2018-02-22T15:24:18 < tomeaton17> lol this is why javascript is cancer https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/19883
2018-02-22T15:24:51 < dongs> zyp, i don't know what those numbers mean. is that good or bad
2018-02-22T15:25:10 < Ultrasauce> I think that's the point dongs
2018-02-22T15:25:49 < dongs> tomeaton17: so they replaced mkdir with a jewascript version which (unsurprisingly) fails?
2018-02-22T15:26:00 < zyp> dongs, I were doing some power metering last night: https://paste.jvnv.net/view/hv5J7
2018-02-22T15:26:16 < dongs> saw that
2018-02-22T15:26:25 < zyp> shit related to that
2018-02-22T15:27:01 < tomeaton17> dongs not sure the technicals of it but npm is just awful. This has just happened and they had the whole left pad fail a few years ago aswell
2018-02-22T15:27:03 < zyp> documentation doesn't say how the ADC inputs are scaled, so I had to guess at it myself
2018-02-22T15:27:35 < zyp> fucking shit were just like "measure and compare to an external measurement, then adjust gain factor accordingly"
2018-02-22T15:28:08 < dongs> haha, nice
2018-02-22T15:28:19 < zyp> I just want to set a nominally correct gain factor and not worry about calibration right now
2018-02-22T15:28:37 < dongs> this is the evtrash boards i assembled?
2018-02-22T15:28:42 < zyp> yes
2018-02-22T15:28:53 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/UWVtw.jpg
2018-02-22T15:30:14 < dongs> woot, nice
2018-02-22T15:30:20 < dongs> i see one of the boards hidden isnide that enclosure
2018-02-22T15:31:20 < zyp> I should finish up the stm32 board and the oled board some time too
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2018-02-22T15:38:10 < qyx> and the edison board
2018-02-22T15:38:33 < Thorn> The range is now reported "green" for launch after a boat ventured into an offshore keep-out zone earlier in the countdown.
2018-02-22T15:39:03 < dongs> paz?
2018-02-22T15:39:13 < Thorn> paz
2018-02-22T15:39:25 < dongs> link plz
2018-02-22T15:39:29 < Thorn> No problems have been reported with RP-1 fueling at this time, and super-cold liquid oxygen will begin pumping
2018-02-22T15:39:39 < Thorn> https://spaceflightnow.com/2018/02/16/falcon-9-paz-mission-status-center/
2018-02-22T15:39:40 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p-PToD2URA
2018-02-22T15:39:53 < dongs> ok cool
2018-02-22T15:40:48 < Cracki> launch in progress or what?
2018-02-22T15:41:12 < Cracki> ic, in 37 mins
2018-02-22T15:43:25 < Thorn> how do I bme280
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2018-02-22T15:53:56 < tomeaton17> where did the max undo redo option for pcb editor go in altium 18?
2018-02-22T15:55:11 < karlp> why would that sort of option even exist?
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2018-02-22T15:55:40 < dongs> yea why would there even be an arbitrary limit
2018-02-22T15:55:45 < dongs> when you have over 9000gb of ram
2018-02-22T15:56:08 < tomeaton17> I remember there was one on A16
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2018-02-22T15:57:28 < tomeaton17> yeah found it, by default its 50 which seems low
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2018-02-22T16:02:44 < dongs> i can't say i'ev ever used more than a level or two of undo
2018-02-22T16:02:49 < dongs> whats your usecase where you need . 50?
2018-02-22T16:03:19 < emeryth> version control
2018-02-22T16:03:27 < dongs> ? wat
2018-02-22T16:03:39 < qyx> you never press xtrl+z multiple times?
2018-02-22T16:05:09 < dongs>  more than a level or two of undo < correct
2018-02-22T16:05:16 < Thorn> stream is live
2018-02-22T16:05:22 < dongs> undo is generally "i fucked something up":
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2018-02-22T16:05:58 < qyx> sure, but sometimes you can fuck up many things at once
2018-02-22T16:06:13 < qyx> like, 50
2018-02-22T16:06:24 < dongs> what
2018-02-22T16:06:31 < dongs> its not about how many objects are affected by fuckup
2018-02-22T16:06:35 < dongs> its how many times you can press ctrl=z
2018-02-22T16:07:00 < qyx> yes, I mean exactly that
2018-02-22T16:07:05 < tomeaton17> routing a trace with lots of turns and undoing that could get you to 50 quickly
2018-02-22T16:07:11 < dongs> uhhh
2018-02-22T16:07:18 < qyx> grab a part, move it elsewhere if it fits better
2018-02-22T16:07:23 < qyx> mhm, it doesn't
2018-02-22T16:07:29 < qyx> move another 5-10 caps around it
2018-02-22T16:07:31 < qyx> nope
2018-02-22T16:07:34 < qyx> screw that
2018-02-22T16:07:39 < qyx> ctrl+z ctrl+z ctrl+z...
2018-02-22T16:08:13 < dongs> tomeaton17: there's uuc for getting rid of entire connected trace...
2018-02-22T16:08:21 < dongs> i certainly wouldn't be undoing it
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2018-02-22T16:08:39 < dongs> also you can make multupkle benmds/etc in a single route session adn just esc / ctrl+z it if it sucks
2018-02-22T16:10:09 < tomeaton17> Well I like to increase it so that I won't get annoyed if hit the limit
2018-02-22T16:11:38 < srk> pro tools xD
2018-02-22T16:11:51 < dongs> how many levels of undo are tehre in kikecad
2018-02-22T16:12:15 < srk> infinite
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2018-02-22T16:14:22 < tomeaton17> lol
2018-02-22T16:15:01 < tomeaton17> Well tbh I think the altium workflow is designed around not spamming ctrl z hence why the stack is small
2018-02-22T16:15:47 < srk> yeah, it's probably designed around spamming ctrl-c and v
2018-02-22T16:15:59 < dongs> ur so funneh
2018-02-22T16:16:06 < emeryth> rekt
2018-02-22T16:16:06 < srk> lift off!
2018-02-22T16:16:18 < srk> dongs: and you're not :(
2018-02-22T16:20:12 < Lux> eagle really sucks, kinda hard to imagine i once used that stuff voluntary :/
2018-02-22T16:20:19 < Lux> even kicad is better than that shit
2018-02-22T16:20:31 < tomeaton17> fairing deploy is my favourite part
2018-02-22T16:20:45 < qyx> did it blow up?
2018-02-22T16:20:57 < tomeaton17> not yet
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2018-02-22T16:26:40 < perole> variable length message receiving off rs485 with cube hal and interrutps = I give up..
2018-02-22T16:26:50 < dongs> wut
2018-02-22T16:27:57 < perole> question/answer scheme - making the whole answer thing interrupt driven gets messy
2018-02-22T16:28:35 < dongs> just have a ringbuffer for rx and pull from it until message size/separator/whatever
2018-02-22T16:29:35 < perole> mmm
2018-02-22T16:29:40 < perole> I'll have a second think
2018-02-22T16:30:38 < Thorn> I've just implemented modbus rtu on both stm32 and stm8, zero issues. (no HAL of course)
2018-02-22T16:32:31 < dongs> thorn, does that have collision etc shit
2018-02-22T16:33:11 < Thorn> just request/response
2018-02-22T16:33:31 < dongs> what happens if multuple nodes response at once
2018-02-22T16:33:54 < zyp> crc error, presumably
2018-02-22T16:34:06 < Thorn> they aren't supposed to
2018-02-22T16:34:44 < zyp> modbus rtu is framed, so I wouldn't use a ringbuffer, just a normal buffer resetting to first index when detecting frame breaks
2018-02-22T16:34:44 < dongs> so does each thing check if bus is busy before replying?
2018-02-22T16:35:01 < zyp> I think slaves can only talk when master tells them to
2018-02-22T16:35:03 < dongs> zyp, the HAL guy isnt writing a RTU i donno wat hes writing
2018-02-22T16:35:19 < zyp> oh, ok
2018-02-22T16:35:33 < Thorn> master sends a packet to slave 42, slave 42 replies
2018-02-22T16:36:10 < Thorn> can't usefully check if rs-485 bus is busy, it's not CAN
2018-02-22T16:36:13 < zyp> I'll need to write a modbus rtu master soon
2018-02-22T16:36:48 < zyp> http://www.eastrongroup.com/productsview/73.html <- I ordered one of this shit to test/compare my shit against
2018-02-22T16:37:09 < dongs> i have a cli over 485 but when i type some shit and enter, some of the beginning chars at random (sometimes not) get trashed
2018-02-22T16:37:35 < dongs> like i type "test" and response is "test failed" it will garble e/s/t or e/s or just e or jsut s etc in test
2018-02-22T16:37:45 < Thorn> btw I've been told I can use the IDLE interrupt in stm uarts to detect end of packet. has anyone used that
2018-02-22T16:38:29 < karlp> qyx: surely you just want undo levels to be "mroe than a few hundred" and not some user visible setting.
2018-02-22T16:38:29 < Thorn> does it fire after 1 frame worth of idle time?
2018-02-22T16:38:32 < karlp> that's just config overload
2018-02-22T16:38:47 < Thorn> i.e. 1 byte
2018-02-22T16:39:40 < karlp> you can check for bus busy by not wiritng de/re together and reading what you write,
2018-02-22T16:39:56 < dongs> ya but whos actualyl gonna do that
2018-02-22T16:40:06 < dongs> i used the autoDE stuff on F3 its so handy
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2018-02-22T16:42:27 < Thorn> isn't it very unreliable
2018-02-22T16:42:57 < Thorn> 2 drivers driving different levels -> bus is in intermediate state
2018-02-22T16:43:20 < zyp> yes
2018-02-22T16:43:40 < zyp> simply don't use rs485 for protocols that can collide
2018-02-22T16:44:49 < Thorn> plus cable length/resistance, location of terminators, 3v3v vs 5v drivers, phase of the moon
2018-02-22T16:45:30 < qyx> karlp: yes
2018-02-22T16:46:09 < qyx> I find can to be very easy in such cases
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2018-02-22T16:51:29 < Thorn> >the Falcon 9's fairing, which is descending toward a ship in the Pacific Ocean for an attempted intact recovery
2018-02-22T16:52:01 < dongs> how is that gonna work
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2018-02-22T16:52:17 < Thorn> a giant net
2018-02-22T16:52:44 < Thorn> apparently
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2018-02-22T17:12:34 < perole> I use 3v3 and 5v drivers, short cable, not had and issues
2018-02-22T17:12:37 < perole> any
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2018-02-22T17:18:40 < karlp> Thorn: you shouldn't have any problems with 3v3 vs 5v drivers,
2018-02-22T17:18:54 < zyp> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/microcontrollers/stm32-32-bit-arm-cortex-mcus/stm32-wireless-mcus/stm32wb-series.html
2018-02-22T17:19:31 < Steffanx> Wasnt the last wireless one a big failure?
2018-02-22T17:19:48 < dongs> WB where B stands for BETTER
2018-02-22T17:19:53 < karlp> cool
2018-02-22T17:20:26 < karlp> well, are they going to provide docs at all?
2018-02-22T17:20:31 < karlp> that was a bummer on teh last one
2018-02-22T17:21:14 < zyp> yeah, that's what I was wondering too
2018-02-22T17:22:30 < karlp> they've only got a the brief at the moment
2018-02-22T17:22:31 < zyp> I wonder if they're gonna be shipping a binary blob for the M0+
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2018-02-22T17:23:09 < dongs> based on collection of shit in 'resources' tab they're not gonna be shipping anything at all
2018-02-22T17:23:34 < perole> Thorn: want to get things right, if you have any pointers on potential issues with 3v3 + 5v drivers, I would love to learn about it
2018-02-22T17:23:53 < qyx> what is mesh 1.0
2018-02-22T17:24:15 < zyp> hardware crypto might be a problem for availability too
2018-02-22T17:24:41 < qyx> also openthread, wtf
2018-02-22T17:25:23 < qyx> I need to improve my vocabulary of new and current IoT buzzwords
2018-02-22T17:29:03 < karlp> almost definitely a blob
2018-02-22T17:29:17 < karlp> mesh 1 is just going to mean it has the bt5 mesh spec support
2018-02-22T17:31:43 < Lux> seems like with wireless stuff it's just blobs
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2018-02-22T17:32:45 < Lux> and pretty much the same thing allready exists with that blue gecko stuff
2018-02-22T17:32:51 < dongs> Secure Firmware Installation (SFI) for Bluetooth® Low Energy and 802.15.4 SW stack
2018-02-22T17:33:18 < Lux> though it's just an m4 core not m0+ + m4
2018-02-22T17:33:18 < dongs> Development support
2018-02-22T17:33:19 < dongs> Serial wire debug (SWD), JTAG for the Application processor
2018-02-22T17:33:21 < dongs> yep
2018-02-22T17:33:24 < dongs> m0 is completely off limits
2018-02-22T17:33:30 < dongs> not even swd to it
2018-02-22T17:33:50 < dongs> unless that sentence means, SWD support for both, SWD+JTAG for application
2018-02-22T17:34:09 < dongs> but to me that means just M4 is accessible.
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2018-02-22T17:36:08 < dongs> damn 1meg flash on those
2018-02-22T17:36:10 < dongs> wtf
2018-02-22T17:36:22 < dongs> so much space for garbage-written IdiOT firmware
2018-02-22T17:36:31 < dongs> probably comes with python preinstalled
2018-02-22T17:36:34 < qyx> much javascripts and luas
2018-02-22T17:36:36 < dongs> or some jewascript
2018-02-22T17:36:36 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-22T17:36:51 < dongs> cancer
2018-02-22T17:37:04 < karlp> I think st even just emailed me about "micropython inside" or somesuch
2018-02-22T17:37:31 < dongs> https://atap.google.com/soli/ this looks just as useless
2018-02-22T17:37:49 < karlp> re swd/jtag, m0 doesn't even have jtag, so could just means
2018-02-22T17:38:13 < karlp> is that soli think like 6 months or more old?
2018-02-22T17:38:25 < karlp> there's some cute stuff, but it's not all goin got be magical fairy movie land
2018-02-22T17:39:31 < dongs> https://atap.google.com/soli/developers/ all i see is faggots
2018-02-22T17:39:33 < dongs> fuck
2018-02-22T17:39:45 < dongs> all those fucking macbookcs with fucking stickers on tehm
2018-02-22T17:39:58 < dongs> absolutely fuckign gross
2018-02-22T17:40:00 < emeb> brogramming
2018-02-22T17:44:13 < dongs> https://e-resident.gov.ee/ haha is this some new money laundering scheme
2018-02-22T17:48:09 < Ultrasauce> looks like a mutually beneficial arrangement. monetized citizenship/incorporation for participation in a large market with a highly advantageous regulatory environment
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2018-02-22T18:02:30 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/92J5j35.jpg suk
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2018-02-22T18:06:03 < englishman> wow ST dropped a bunch of new javaware today
2018-02-22T18:06:14 < englishman> STM32CubeProgrammer
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2018-02-22T18:08:05 < dongs> lmao is that .. replacement for flashloaderdemo?
2018-02-22T18:08:19 < dongs> ah yes it is.
2018-02-22T18:08:23 < dongs> bet still uses 128byte packets
2018-02-22T18:08:25 < dongs> making it FUCKING SLOW
2018-02-22T18:12:49 < jadew> my 3d printer arrived
2018-02-22T18:12:57 < dongs> i hope its broken
2018-02-22T18:13:00 < jadew> lol
2018-02-22T18:13:28 < jadew> didn't take it out of the box yet, I have no room for it atm
2018-02-22T18:13:40 < jadew> was hoping to get some new tables today, but they're not ready
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2018-02-22T19:23:47 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFifrkYI21o
2018-02-22T19:25:36 < tomeaton17> That's just so gross and wrong that is the most crappyest thing I ever saw hippos are herbivores and never swallow things hole the kill people only because they are territory keepers and they attack anything that comes near there water
2018-02-22T19:27:21 < Laurenceb> epin copypasta
2018-02-22T19:44:10 < Steffanx> What did you get jadew ?
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2018-02-22T19:46:10 < jadew> prusa mk2s
2018-02-22T19:46:13 < jadew> assembling it now
2018-02-22T19:46:27 < jadew> Steffanx ^
2018-02-22T19:47:11 < Steffanx> Aha
2018-02-22T19:47:34 < Steffanx> Why no mk3? :p
2018-02-22T19:47:47 < jadew> a bit out of budget
2018-02-22T19:47:52 < jadew> and heard it had some issues
2018-02-22T19:48:02 < Steffanx> Every printer had issues
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2018-02-22T19:48:22 < jadew> I got this one over the CR-10 because I figured I'd end up paying the same, in order to get it working
2018-02-22T19:48:22 < Steffanx> Has
2018-02-22T19:48:31 < jadew> and would have spent some extra time on it as well
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2018-02-22T19:48:45 < jadew> the downside is the build volume, but it's probably fine for what I'll use it
2018-02-22T19:49:05 < Steffanx> The cr-10 works out of the box..
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2018-02-22T19:49:42 < jadew> yeah, but I would have needed a new hot end, new fans
2018-02-22T19:49:44 < jadew> things like that
2018-02-22T19:50:17 < englishman> every <5k printer needs something
2018-02-22T19:53:37 < jadew> yeah, just saying that if I got a CR-10, I would have ended up paying the same, to get to the same hardware on the prusa
2018-02-22T19:54:07 < jadew> I liked the idea of fiddling around with it, but I'm really tight on time these days, so I couldn't afford that
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2018-02-22T21:06:39 < Laurenceb> > indian guy turns up at wurk
2018-02-22T21:06:49 < Laurenceb> > he has a command line lunix arranged marriage manager application
2018-02-22T21:07:12 < Laurenceb> > marriageman
2018-02-22T21:07:43 < Laurenceb> it can create pdf invites and send invite emails
2018-02-22T21:08:05 < Laurenceb> it has a waifu locating feature
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2018-02-22T21:19:47 < Laurenceb> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3d4_1519287330
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2018-02-22T21:55:18 < Laurenceb> wtf audiophools
2018-02-22T21:55:33 < Laurenceb> muh preamp puts out +-40v audio
2018-02-22T21:55:35 < Laurenceb> whyyyyyy
2018-02-22T22:00:10 < Steffanx> Ask crt. He is audiofixet
2018-02-22T22:00:12 < Steffanx> R
2018-02-22T22:00:35 < Steffanx> Crt will join between now and 15 minutes, Laurenceb
2018-02-22T22:00:52 < Laurenceb> v lucky I didnt plug it into sound card
2018-02-22T22:00:57 < Laurenceb> itd have been fried
2018-02-22T22:03:33 < Laurenceb> https://www.canford.co.uk/IN-LINE-ATTENUATORS
2018-02-22T22:03:36 < Laurenceb> seriously...
2018-02-22T22:03:51 < Laurenceb> audiophools just want ur moneys
2018-02-22T22:04:22 < Laurenceb> my whistling makes perfect 1.5kHz sine wives
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2018-02-22T22:06:30 < Laurenceb> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rothwell-RCA-In-Line-Attenuators/dp/B00B7383F8
2018-02-22T22:06:43 < Laurenceb> >unironic audiophile products
2018-02-22T22:06:45 < Laurenceb> hi crt
2018-02-22T22:07:19 < Laurenceb> I have an audiophile problem
2018-02-22T22:07:29 < Laurenceb> muh preamp is sticking out +-40v audio
2018-02-22T22:07:30 < Laurenceb> wtf
2018-02-22T22:07:34 < Laurenceb> is that normal?
2018-02-22T22:07:51 < aandrew> that's not a preamp
2018-02-22T22:08:03 < Laurenceb> hmmm
2018-02-22T22:08:10 < Laurenceb> tiem to check
2018-02-22T22:08:42 < Laurenceb> nope its all good
2018-02-22T22:08:59 < Laurenceb> multimeter confirms
2018-02-22T22:09:16 < Laurenceb> http://cpc.farnell.com/pulse/mpre-dual/microphone-pre-amplifier-dual/dp/DP32530
2018-02-22T22:09:20 < Laurenceb> that baby
2018-02-22T22:09:31 < aandrew> that is a mic preamp
2018-02-22T22:09:45 < aandrew> are you sure you're not connecting the mic input to the output? heh
2018-02-22T22:10:10 < aandrew> it's balanced output, are you measuring 40V between the + and -?
2018-02-22T22:10:10 < Laurenceb> mic goes to input, scope on output
2018-02-22T22:10:18 < Laurenceb> yes
2018-02-22T22:10:24 < aandrew> also your scope is probably grounded
2018-02-22T22:10:29 < Laurenceb> its nice clean audio
2018-02-22T22:10:34 < Laurenceb> just massive voltage levelk
2018-02-22T22:10:40 < aandrew> need a 1:1 audio transformer to restore unbalanced
2018-02-22T22:11:07 < Laurenceb> sure I have one
2018-02-22T22:11:10 < aandrew> or use two channels, one to + and one to - and use scope's sum
2018-02-22T22:11:13 < aandrew> er difference
2018-02-22T22:11:21 < Laurenceb> yeah done that already
2018-02-22T22:11:36 < Laurenceb> crt: its connected to a Behringer Brevik microphone
2018-02-22T22:11:59 < Laurenceb> and I'm whistling into it
2018-02-22T22:13:02 < Laurenceb> looks like I'm going to need attenuators?
2018-02-22T22:13:36 < Laurenceb> thats what I thought
2018-02-22T22:13:43 < Laurenceb> well it has 48v supply built in
2018-02-22T22:14:09 < DisruptiveNL> who can help me out with some example code for reading rpm with a hall sensor.... with FreeRTOS would be perfect?
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2018-02-22T22:14:23 < Ultrasauce> you could uh turn down the gain?
2018-02-22T22:14:52 < Laurenceb> Ultrasauce: but a loud noise could still saturate it
2018-02-22T22:15:07 < aandrew> gain has nothing to do with it
2018-02-22T22:15:28 < Ultrasauce> it's +50dB when it's cranked
2018-02-22T22:15:45 < aandrew> you've got some common mode voltage on the output. use an audio tx to remove it
2018-02-22T22:15:49 < Ultrasauce> i am impressed that it's linear all the way up to 40v p-p but at the end of the day it's just doing what it says on the tin
2018-02-22T22:15:58 < aandrew> if the amp is good with it, ground the - output but it may be very unhappy about that
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2018-02-22T22:20:31 < Laurenceb> I'll look for some RCA attenuator units
2018-02-22T22:21:10 < Laurenceb> https://www.hificollective.co.uk/hifi-accessories/rothwell-rca-attenuator.html
2018-02-22T22:21:13 < Laurenceb> wew the prices
2018-02-22T22:22:34 < Laurenceb> cuz faffy
2018-02-22T22:22:41 < Laurenceb> but yeah might as well at that price
2018-02-22T22:22:57 < Laurenceb> it needs to look pro with pro enclosures
2018-02-22T22:23:37 < aandrew> how fast have you guys driven an STM32 ADC?
2018-02-22T22:23:41 < Laurenceb> looks like the signal is 30dBv from this preamp
2018-02-22T22:23:51 < Laurenceb> crt: but I already got muh preamp
2018-02-22T22:23:55 < Laurenceb> aandrew 1msps
2018-02-22T22:23:59 < Laurenceb> on f1
2018-02-22T22:24:09 < Laurenceb> about  2.something on f4
2018-02-22T22:24:14 < aandrew> oh? any serious issues?
2018-02-22T22:24:21 < aandrew> maybe I don't need an external SPI ADC then
2018-02-22T22:24:30 < aandrew> was hoping for 2ch 2msps
2018-02-22T22:24:32 < englishman> is arrow.com fucked up for anyone else
2018-02-22T22:24:40 < Laurenceb> aandrew: f1 adc is epin win
2018-02-22T22:24:52 < Laurenceb> liek >10.5 enob at 1msps
2018-02-22T22:24:57 < aandrew> you're kind of getting me hard, I have to admit
2018-02-22T22:25:01 < Steffanx> no, englishman. it works for me(tm)
2018-02-22T22:25:04 < Laurenceb> f4 is >9 at >2msps
2018-02-22T22:25:12 < englishman> the search bar is gone for me
2018-02-22T22:25:12 < aandrew> 10b is plenty
2018-02-22T22:25:13 < Laurenceb> early f4 adc was really shitty
2018-02-22T22:25:20 < Laurenceb> but they have fired it now
2018-02-22T22:25:26 < Laurenceb> its still not as good as f1
2018-02-22T22:25:32 < aandrew> very interesting
2018-02-22T22:25:34 < Steffanx> https://www.arrow.com/en/products/search?q=test not for me.
2018-02-22T22:25:37 < Steffanx> mr englishman
2018-02-22T22:25:38 < Laurenceb> I hear f3 is similar quality to f1 but faster
2018-02-22T22:25:46 < englishman> ha
2018-02-22T22:25:52 < englishman> im missing the whole top bar
2018-02-22T22:26:10 < Steffanx> Forgot to pay some bills?
2018-02-22T22:26:23 < englishman> im not the one who forgot
2018-02-22T22:26:37 < Steffanx> chrome? Firefox? IE?
2018-02-22T22:26:44 < Laurenceb> audiophool product idea: noise cancelling unit with xlr connectors
2018-02-22T22:27:05 < aandrew> I just need decent timer OC for precise (1us) pulse generation
2018-02-22T22:27:08 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/TCV8mcL.png
2018-02-22T22:27:10 < aandrew> so F1 is probably win
2018-02-22T22:27:11 < englishman> thats the whole page
2018-02-22T22:27:46 < Steffanx> haha cool
2018-02-22T22:27:49 < aandrew> mind you I kind of want ethernet so stm32f4discovery would work
2018-02-22T22:28:09 < Laurenceb> heh this guy https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AAS40ASCRCAPRO-40dB-Adjustable-Stereo-attenuator-with-RCA-phono-/183050970171
2018-02-22T22:28:36 < Laurenceb> sheeet  https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAA40-Stereo-Audio-Attenuator-40dB-convert-line-to-mic-level-filmmakers-/182838875603
2018-02-22T22:28:46 < Laurenceb> so line to mic level is 40dB...
2018-02-22T22:28:55 < Laurenceb> thats how much attenuation i need
2018-02-22T22:29:10 < Laurenceb> looks like I can stick mic straight into sound card?
2018-02-22T22:30:16 < Laurenceb> and only need phantom power injector?
2018-02-22T22:31:08 < aandrew> just put a cap between
2018-02-22T22:31:09 < aandrew> no worries
2018-02-22T22:31:15 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-22T22:31:24 < Laurenceb> this was an epin waste of money lol
2018-02-22T22:31:44 < Laurenceb> actually the farnell phantom power injector is almost same price as preamp
2018-02-22T22:32:28 < aandrew> https://imgur.com/a/EUq7M
2018-02-22T22:32:46 < Laurenceb> ok
2018-02-22T22:32:47 < aandrew> that's what I am using for a mic input
2018-02-22T22:32:48 < aandrew> untested yet
2018-02-22T22:32:58  * Laurenceb shops
2018-02-22T22:33:00 < Laurenceb> bbl
2018-02-22T22:33:16 < Steffanx> no.
2018-02-22T22:36:10 < Ultrasauce> why do you need an attenuator
2018-02-22T22:36:12 < Ultrasauce> just turn down the gain
2018-02-22T22:37:16 < Ultrasauce> i don't think you're alone
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2018-02-22T22:39:06 < Steffanx> Do you want to know?
2018-02-22T22:41:52 < Ultrasauce> I imagine the problem is as much of a blaxterism as this solution
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2018-02-22T23:07:10 < kakimir> I actually have pcb for active balancing
2018-02-22T23:10:45 < BrainDamage> failrenceb always strikes me as the kind of person that copypastes shitty greentext that talk about idiotic people while not realizing one could write one describing him
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2018-02-22T23:41:52 < englishman> rip crt http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/man-shot-at-tattoo-parlour-in-melbourne/news-story/9bf95d7317d2611fe653d873b5bbf828
2018-02-22T23:42:18 < englishman> better ban guns in australia now
2018-02-22T23:44:46 < BrainDamage> better ban australia
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2018-02-23T00:37:29 < englishman> https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/19883
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2018-02-23T00:51:54 < Steffanx> That issue is so bad that it wont load englishman
2018-02-23T00:52:51 < englishman> https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:W-fteVRQvekJ:https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/19883+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
2018-02-23T00:54:05 < englishman> also, worksonmymachine.pro
2018-02-23T01:01:22 < emeb> Here's one for dongs - zano was too early. Now NY Times is writing about similar stuff: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/13/technology/skydio-autonomous-drones.html
2018-02-23T01:03:46 < BrainDamage> >Time for some caveats: Skydio’s technology is far from perfect. It doesn’t work well in inclement weather or at night. It also requires a very high-powered processor, which gobbles up battery life
2018-02-23T01:03:54 < BrainDamage> at least they are honest
2018-02-23T01:04:13 < BrainDamage> not zomg optimized 200mhz mips doing mpeg4 coding in real time
2018-02-23T01:04:41 < emeb> not surprising that it's a power hog - visual nav can't be easy.
2018-02-23T01:04:56 < BrainDamage> yup, machine vision is likely the big spender
2018-02-23T01:05:59 < aandrew> conexant has cheap SPI-interface JPEG encoders that can do 720p in realtime
2018-02-23T01:06:05 < aandrew> it's not that outof the ordinary
2018-02-23T01:06:12 < aandrew> hell, STM32F4 has JPEG encoder IIRC
2018-02-23T01:06:28 < Lux> iirc on that 200g dobby pocket drone the power draw is like 8 watts just for image stabilisation an optical flow
2018-02-23T01:06:45 < englishman> ha
2018-02-23T01:06:50 < englishman> Lux knows all about skydio
2018-02-23T01:06:59 < Lux> not really :)
2018-02-23T01:07:10 < aandrew> no, F4 doesn't have JPEG encoder. F7 does though
2018-02-23T01:07:43 < Lux> but skydio is definetly not the next zano
2018-02-23T01:07:51 < BrainDamage> aandrew: hw encoding in realtime is not impossible, sw encoding of hd content on a 200MHz processor is, which is what zano promised
2018-02-23T01:08:05 < BrainDamage> among many other things
2018-02-23T01:08:20 < aandrew> if the cpu had hw encode it wouldn't have been that much of a stretch
2018-02-23T01:08:21 < Lux> those guys were just braindead
2018-02-23T01:08:21 < aandrew> but I hear you
2018-02-23T01:09:36 < Lux> you can actually get usb-uvc chips that can do 1080p60fps h264 encode
2018-02-23T01:09:50 < Lux> even with electronic image stabilisation
2018-02-23T01:11:54 < Lux> but the main issue with camera stuff is that you can't do a real custom solution without paying a company anyway
2018-02-23T01:12:18 < Lux> usually it's all super secret and they want lots of money for nre or huge quantities
2018-02-23T01:17:04 < aandrew> yep
2018-02-23T01:17:21 < aandrew> I worked on 4k image sensors, everything is super secretive even with NDAs and shit in place
2018-02-23T01:17:41 < aandrew> I was working on aptina sensors back then
2018-02-23T01:17:50 < aandrew> hell even the sensor we were using wasn't on the website
2018-02-23T01:18:07 < Lux> i can imagine
2018-02-23T01:18:32 < aandrew> it was fun though, image sensor --mipi--> fpga --> fx3 --> usb3 to pc
2018-02-23T01:18:43 < Lux> funny thing is if you go directly to the chinese like for example truly they just send you their nda datasheet of omnivision sensors
2018-02-23T01:18:48 < aandrew> my test image for the signal path int he fpga was a 4k nyancat animation :-)
2018-02-23T01:19:05 < Lux> cool :-)
2018-02-23T01:19:33 < aandrew> hm, stm32f4 supports simultaneous sampling on its 3 adcs, nice.
2018-02-23T01:19:52 < aandrew> so I can compute real power used by these LEDs
2018-02-23T01:20:30 < aandrew> now I just have to figure out a sane way to use the timer compare outputs to drive 20 mosfets in sequence
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2018-02-23T01:21:36 < aandrew> I think the better solution might be a timer to do on/off timing and another timer gated from the first which drives a shift reg or someshit to select which mosfet gets the gating
2018-02-23T01:22:34 < aandrew> maybe one timer, 3 output compares. OC1 = turn on mosfet, OC2 = turn off mosfet and OC3 = mosfet select increment
2018-02-23T01:22:44 < aandrew> that way I can play with deadband timing
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2018-02-23T01:25:41 < upgrdman> i was walking around ikea earlier today. TIL swedes are perverts: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/70152740/   for those times when you need a butt plug while beating your meat
2018-02-23T01:26:05 < BrainDamage> trying too hard
2018-02-23T01:26:20 < karlp> says more about you I think upgrdman
2018-02-23T01:26:37 < upgrdman> sure, sure, blame the messenger
2018-02-23T01:26:37 < BrainDamage> yup, generally i am the one with the mind in the gutter and didn't even consider that
2018-02-23T01:30:41 < Ultrasauce> i'm working with a shitty hisilicon soc for video encoding that's probably half pirate IP, can confirm zero access to real documentation
2018-02-23T01:44:35 < aandrew> oh man hisilicon
2018-02-23T01:44:44 < aandrew> they are what are in my cameras around the house
2018-02-23T01:47:24 < sync> more like highsilicon
2018-02-23T01:47:43 < aandrew> heh
2018-02-23T01:47:51 < Ultrasauce> lol weed amirite??
2018-02-23T01:52:36 < sync> yes
2018-02-23T01:52:48 < sync> or idk what is popular in shenzen
2018-02-23T01:55:40 < Ultrasauce> huffing flux
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2018-02-23T02:35:27 < Laurenceb_> anders behringer brevik
2018-02-23T02:37:47 < Laurenceb_> wtf is he up to these days
2018-02-23T02:37:49 < Laurenceb_> http://www.spksound.co.th/file/BEHRINGER/Studio%20Microphones/BEHRINGER_B-5_SPEC_EN001.pdf
2018-02-23T02:38:40 < Laurenceb_> 10mv/Pa, at 90dBa -> 6mv
2018-02-23T02:38:51 < Laurenceb_> with 50dB preamp gain -> 2v
2018-02-23T02:38:53 < Laurenceb_> wtf
2018-02-23T02:39:09 < Laurenceb_> I see +-40v just whistling near the thing
2018-02-23T02:39:24 < Laurenceb_> no way thats 90dBA
2018-02-23T02:41:33 < Laurenceb_> something is wrong somewhere...
2018-02-23T02:42:15 < sync> > audio gear
2018-02-23T02:42:19 < sync> > expecting accurate specs
2018-02-23T02:42:21 < sync> pls
2018-02-23T02:43:02 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-23T02:43:39 < Laurenceb_> saturation leds seem sane
2018-02-23T02:44:12 < Laurenceb_> light up when it starts clipping at ~ +-48v
2018-02-23T02:45:12 < Laurenceb_> who the f sends +-48v audio down cables
2018-02-23T02:45:30 < upgrdman> 48v, wtf
2018-02-23T02:45:37 < upgrdman> is that high impedence?
2018-02-23T02:45:39 < Laurenceb_> I guess thats going to be quite interference proof
2018-02-23T02:45:43 < Laurenceb_> yes, 10k ohm
2018-02-23T02:46:12 < Ultrasauce> jesus just turn down the gain no input is going to deal with that
2018-02-23T02:46:17 < Laurenceb_> ikr
2018-02-23T02:46:33 < Laurenceb_> but even with min gain it can still happen if there is a loud noise
2018-02-23T02:46:38 < Laurenceb_> destroying my sound card
2018-02-23T02:46:48 < sync> but how babby is shake?
2018-02-23T02:47:01 < sync> just put a tvs in there?
2018-02-23T02:47:03 < upgrdman> add tvs?
2018-02-23T02:47:19 < Ultrasauce> capacitive coupling + clamps will probably handle transients ok
2018-02-23T02:47:28 < sync> get out of my brain upgrdman
2018-02-23T02:47:36 < upgrdman> :(
2018-02-23T02:47:47 < Laurenceb_> yeah I guess I could haxor it
2018-02-23T02:47:55 < Laurenceb_> but I'd like ot know just wtf is going on
2018-02-23T02:48:02 < Ultrasauce> no i mean both of those things are definitely in your sound card
2018-02-23T02:48:07 < Laurenceb_> didnt even occur to me that 48v audio was possible
2018-02-23T02:48:19 < sync> in what input are you inputting this shit?
2018-02-23T02:48:19 < Laurenceb_> thats nearly 100v peak to peak O_o
2018-02-23T02:48:25 < Ultrasauce> modular stuff runs at +-10V nominally
2018-02-23T02:48:30 < Laurenceb_> sync: usb sound card
2018-02-23T02:48:38 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, ya but will the clamps on a sound card tolerage +-48V?
2018-02-23T02:48:39 < Laurenceb_> it takes +-1v
2018-02-23T02:48:39 < sync> and it sees 100Vpp?
2018-02-23T02:48:41 < sync> wut
2018-02-23T02:48:43 < Ultrasauce> only one way to find out
2018-02-23T02:48:44 < Laurenceb_> ikr
2018-02-23T02:49:03 < Laurenceb_> maybe I could turn it into a taser
2018-02-23T02:49:08 < sync> that sounds, interesting
2018-02-23T02:49:29 < Laurenceb_> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1581696.pdf
2018-02-23T02:49:31 < Laurenceb_> this thing
2018-02-23T02:49:42 < sync> how the fuck is a condenser mic generating so many voltages
2018-02-23T02:49:49 < Laurenceb_> hooked up to behringer b-5
2018-02-23T02:49:53 < Laurenceb_> I dont get it
2018-02-23T02:49:58 < Laurenceb_> where are the voltages coming from
2018-02-23T02:50:39 < Laurenceb_> I have a differential -> single ended converter on the xlr output
2018-02-23T02:50:43 < Ultrasauce> I've pushed ~30Vp-p into my shitty usb audio interface a few times accidentally
2018-02-23T02:50:45 < Laurenceb_> maybe that boosts the voltages
2018-02-23T02:50:54 < sync> if it has a transformer inside, possibly
2018-02-23T02:51:03 < Laurenceb_> but it cant be a coincidence thats its +-48v
2018-02-23T02:51:06 < Ultrasauce> oh yeah maybe fucking mention the balun
2018-02-23T02:51:12 < Laurenceb_> which is generated inside that thing
2018-02-23T02:51:16 < Laurenceb_> sorry :P
2018-02-23T02:51:52 < sync> but I hear you, all audio gear sucks balls
2018-02-23T02:52:00 < Ultrasauce> it's an impedance converter
2018-02-23T02:52:04 < sync> no specs, everything is made as cheaply as possible and ehhh
2018-02-23T02:52:17 < Laurenceb_> hmm ok maybe it could be doing somethign weird
2018-02-23T02:52:26 < Ultrasauce> it's not weird
2018-02-23T02:52:28 < Ultrasauce> xlr inputs are nominally 600 ohms i think
2018-02-23T02:52:34 < Ultrasauce> rca 10k+
2018-02-23T02:52:51 < Ultrasauce> it's a freakin transformer
2018-02-23T02:54:02 < Ultrasauce> just use a cheater instead of a balun and you'll be fine
2018-02-23T02:54:49 < Laurenceb_> whats a cheater?
2018-02-23T02:55:38 < Ultrasauce> an adapter without a balun
2018-02-23T02:55:50 < Laurenceb_> k
2018-02-23T02:55:52 < Ultrasauce> maybe with a couple resistors
2018-02-23T02:56:10 < Ultrasauce> one differential side goes to ground, the other to the input
2018-02-23T02:57:04 < sync> I made a few active ones with the differential amps in them
2018-02-23T02:57:13 < Laurenceb_> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/rapco-horizon-dbbloxf-lo-to-hi-z-transformer-direct-box
2018-02-23T02:57:17 < Laurenceb_> thats what I used
2018-02-23T02:57:28 < Laurenceb_> ideally I'd have all the mic stuff floating
2018-02-23T02:57:42 < Laurenceb_> I've used an isolated dc-dc to power the preamp
2018-02-23T02:58:13 < Ultrasauce> that's literally the opposite of what a DI is why do they call it that
2018-02-23T02:59:27 < sync> yeah
2018-02-23T03:00:20 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DI_unit
2018-02-23T03:00:28 < Laurenceb_> >Typical turns ratios are in the range of 10:1 to 20:1
2018-02-23T03:00:30 < Laurenceb_> oh shit
2018-02-23T03:01:04 < Ultrasauce> and suddenly the world makes sense to ol' blax
2018-02-23T03:01:09 < Laurenceb_> so 48v -> 2.4v
2018-02-23T03:01:13 < Laurenceb_> makes more sense
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2018-02-23T03:03:30 < sync> way 2 kill your hardwarez
2018-02-23T03:05:04 < Ultrasauce> now if I had the stamina I'd get on your case about why you want total isolation but I don't think I have it in me
2018-02-23T03:06:07 < Laurenceb_> for noise reduction
2018-02-23T03:06:16 < Laurenceb_> this is going to be connected to a laptop
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2018-02-23T03:06:57 < Ultrasauce> so now you get to explain to me why having the case of the mic and the shield of the xlr cable connected to nothing is going to make there be less noise
2018-02-23T03:07:46 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, well with +-48V, if 100mV of noise is cuckled in, thats a small %
2018-02-23T03:07:57 < upgrdman> compared to +-1V with 100mV of noise
2018-02-23T03:08:12 < Laurenceb_>  >  assuming it is all properly shielded
2018-02-23T03:08:50 < Ultrasauce> I am gonna go play in traffic
2018-02-23T03:19:12 < Laurenceb_> >Americans can't own guns until 21
2018-02-23T03:19:23 < Laurenceb_> >Britbongs can own guns at 14
2018-02-23T03:20:24 < sync> > americans cannot into getting wasted until 21
2018-02-23T03:20:32 < upgrdman> Laurenceb_, is it 21 now?
2018-02-23T03:20:48 < upgrdman> when i was a boy, it was 18 for rifles, 21 for handguns
2018-02-23T03:20:53 < Laurenceb_> will be if Trump does what he says for once
2018-02-23T03:21:35 < upgrdman> was the most recent (lol, i have to clearify that) shooter <21 ?
2018-02-23T03:21:59 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-23T03:22:20 < Laurenceb_> but unlike most of the others he wasnt a britbong
2018-02-23T03:23:50 < Laurenceb_> >be britbong
2018-02-23T03:23:56 < Laurenceb_> >want to shoot up a school
2018-02-23T03:24:04 < Laurenceb_> >just go to murica to do it
2018-02-23T03:24:23 < Laurenceb_> >school shooting tourism
2018-02-23T03:27:13 < Laurenceb_> http://cpc.farnell.com/neutrik/na2m-j-tx/balancing-tx-adaptor-xlr-1-4-jack/dp/AV18088
2018-02-23T03:27:15 < upgrdman> cooking pros: you know those oil dispencer things. look like a glass bottle with a metal tube sticking out the top. wtf are they designed like that, they dribble oil. are chefs too dumb to design something like a Wash Bottle?
2018-02-23T03:27:16 < Laurenceb_> eww the price
2018-02-23T03:27:41 < Laurenceb_> heh I always have that problem
2018-02-23T03:28:15 < upgrdman> ya im tempted to use a wash bottle. would be kinda weird to explain to people, but fuck it, i dont want dribbly shitz
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2018-02-23T04:34:46 < dongs> http://smartstore.naver.com/anyfun/products/2398680974 wat
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2018-02-23T04:37:58 < englishman> cool
2018-02-23T04:38:50 < englishman> oh, games stored in rom
2018-02-23T04:38:52 < englishman> lame
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2018-02-23T04:51:14 < Thorn> englishman: this was $30 like 2 or 3 days ago and now it's $39 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-100pcs-lots-STM8S103F3P6-STM8S103F3-STM8S103-TSSOP-20-100-New-original-IC-In-stock/32253416794.html
2018-02-23T04:51:42 < englishman> will this bankrupt your country's innovations :(
2018-02-23T04:53:05 < Thorn> and this is s003 (despite the url) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-100pcs-lots-STM8S103F3P6-STM8S103-TSSOP-20-100-New-original-IC-In-stock/32270239890.html
2018-02-23T04:56:14 < englishman> pretty far from .20
2018-02-23T04:56:33 < englishman> if those are 103 tho
2018-02-23T04:56:36 < englishman> they are a bit more
2018-02-23T04:58:08 < Thorn> the 2nd one is most likely 003, but why are they more than 103
2018-02-23T04:58:14 < dongs> http://www.nutsvolts.com/uploads/wygwam/NV_0500_Marston_FIG16.jpg analog pros why is source connceted to gate here
2018-02-23T04:58:18 < dongs> or just retarded drawing
2018-02-23T04:59:26 < Thorn> looks like the gate is protected by a tvs
2018-02-23T04:59:27 < englishman> esd to body?
2018-02-23T05:03:40 < dongs> oh oaky so its tvs, i thought was zener'
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2018-02-23T05:35:00 < dongs> > actually buying shit off aliexpress
2018-02-23T05:35:04 < dongs> does it take like 2months to arrive, thorn?
2018-02-23T05:35:16 < dongs> can you imagine pausing innovation for 2m onths
2018-02-23T05:36:25 < Thorn> iirc my best time was like 10 days. normally 2-3 weeks
2018-02-23T05:42:24 < Thorn> attn englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8xs3Zf_gBI
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2018-02-23T06:13:56 < englishman> Thorn, https://i.imgur.com/ICzqYdQ.jpg
2018-02-23T06:14:02 < englishman> stm8 delivery cat
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2018-02-23T06:36:16 < machinehum> The hifive unleashed, does anyone know the deal with the 6x SMA connectors?
2018-02-23T06:36:29 < dongs> yes
2018-02-23T06:36:32 < dongs> ask kikemir
2018-02-23T06:36:57 < dongs> The First Linux-ready RISC-V Chip
2018-02-23T06:37:00 < dongs> stopped reading there
2018-02-23T06:37:57 < dongs> SiFive will be hosting our first hackathon March 12-14, 2018 in Portland, Oregon in conjunction with the Embedded Linux Conference!
2018-02-23T06:38:00 < dongs> ohsix will be busy
2018-02-23T06:38:19 < machinehum> Sorry I'm a bit slow...  Don't know anything about RISC-V. I know they did the hi-five a while ago, whiched seemed epic
2018-02-23T06:38:35 < dongs> looks boring yet another shitty lunix
2018-02-23T06:38:41 < machinehum> mmmm
2018-02-23T06:38:43 < machinehum> ?
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2018-02-23T06:39:23 < machinehum> I mean the silicon is 100% open no?
2018-02-23T06:40:01 < machinehum> Wait just counted again, there's 8x SMA
2018-02-23T06:40:15 < machinehum> wtf is going on.
2018-02-23T06:40:16 < dongs> last time i bought a computer, i cared that it 100% worked
2018-02-23T06:40:18 < dongs> not that it was 100% open
2018-02-23T06:41:10 < machinehum> I mean Linux is better then windows because windows fucking sucks...
2018-02-23T06:41:35 < machinehum> It would not have gotten there if there was no community supporting it
2018-02-23T06:41:35 < dongs> your and mine definition of "sucks" must be quite different
2018-02-23T06:41:50 < dongs> lunix community is fucking cancer
2018-02-23T06:42:06 < machinehum> lul
2018-02-23T06:42:18 < machinehum> Calm down backslash
2018-02-23T06:52:52 < machinehum> 'These are just SoC debug headers'
2018-02-23T06:53:04 < machinehum> o_O
2018-02-23T06:53:27 < dongs> are you dumb or seomthing. sma is usually used for highspeed clock/serial data stuff
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2018-02-23T06:55:54 < machinehum> Yeah I'm dumb
2018-02-23T06:55:58 < machinehum> So?
2018-02-23T06:56:42 < dongs> was a rhetorical question, after all you use lunix
2018-02-23T06:56:47 < machinehum> tbh this is the first I've seen an SMA jack on a pcb for debugging
2018-02-23T06:56:59 < machinehum> me = dumb
2018-02-23T06:57:19 < dongs> any FPGA board will have several SMAs on it
2018-02-23T06:57:33 < dongs> https://www.xilinx.com/content/dam/xilinx/imgs/kits/whats-inside/SP605-evaluation-board.jpg
2018-02-23T06:57:45 < machinehum> Never worked with anything over ICE40
2018-02-23T06:58:40 < dongs> https://static.electronicsweekly.com/news/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2015/09/ECP5Versa.jpg i ahve this one
2018-02-23T06:58:53 < dongs> was on sale for 99bux
2018-02-23T06:59:41 < machinehum> What do you mean xilinx doesn't have Linux support?
2018-02-23T07:00:28 < dongs> wuat
2018-02-23T07:00:47 < machinehum> Shout out to the 7 segment display
2018-02-23T07:00:52 < machinehum> That shit's OG as fuck
2018-02-23T07:01:07 < machinehum> I mean there's a Xtra 4 segments
2018-02-23T07:01:42 < machinehum> Actually looks like an extra 6 segments
2018-02-23T07:02:45 < dongs> its a 14seg
2018-02-23T07:03:53 < machinehum> Duh
2018-02-23T07:04:00 < machinehum> 7 + 4 = 13
2018-02-23T07:04:23 < machinehum> 13 Segment
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2018-02-23T07:16:32 < dongs> englishman: this guy doesnt make canada look very bright
2018-02-23T07:16:50 < englishman> he's going to a cut-rate private technical school
2018-02-23T07:16:58 < englishman> for machine operator or something
2018-02-23T07:17:06 < englishman> another stoned vancouverite
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2018-02-23T07:18:04 < englishman> vancouver is only part of canada temporairly, it will soon be handed over to the chinese, like hongkong
2018-02-23T07:18:23 < dongs> ahahah
2018-02-23T07:19:09 < dongs> HighInBC
2018-02-23T07:19:37 < dongs> https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/HighInBC
2018-02-23T07:19:58 < englishman> yes he was over in stonerrotors
2018-02-23T07:20:04 < dongs> waht really?
2018-02-23T07:20:11 < englishman> yes
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2018-02-23T08:42:37 < dongs> nope
2018-02-23T08:44:16 < dongs> not much
2018-02-23T08:44:20 < dongs> wasting time
2018-02-23T09:02:52 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/engineering/need-electric-engineering-expert/ crt, got a job 4 u
2018-02-23T09:06:56 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/engineering/conversion-kit/ lmao
2018-02-23T09:08:12 < dongs> does the bid include tix to fly to sandnigger arabia
2018-02-23T09:08:22 < dongs> no idea, its fucking ridiculous useless shit
2018-02-23T09:08:36 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/seeking-hire-audio-visual-autocad/
2018-02-23T09:08:39 < dongs> there you go
2018-02-23T09:10:18 < dongs> https://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX17546.pdf wow nice
2018-02-23T09:10:33 < dongs> too bad its a maxim part
2018-02-23T09:13:04 < dongs> spammed
2018-02-23T09:13:11 < dongs> i should ask kikemir what he used for his shittybuck
2018-02-23T09:13:16 < dongs> then add a proper uvlo in front of it
2018-02-23T09:15:01 < qyx> I can recommend LT8609
2018-02-23T09:15:08 < qyx> super pro, low Iq
2018-02-23T09:15:11 < qyx> $$$
2018-02-23T09:15:12 < dongs> i can't recommend buying that
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2018-02-23T09:16:33 < qyx> y u no lt
2018-02-23T09:17:07 < dongs> that does look amazing
2018-02-23T09:17:27 < dongs> hjesu
2018-02-23T09:17:32 < dongs> $6 in singles on digiJEW
2018-02-23T09:19:14 < qyx> also quite small
2018-02-23T09:19:16 < qyx> https://github.com/iqyx/meteo-solar-shield/blob/master/pcb/base-board-layout.pdf
2018-02-23T09:19:20 < qyx> left under the dip sw
2018-02-23T09:19:33 < dongs> you used a chipcoil?
2018-02-23T09:20:08 < dongs> chiangirl has LT8609EMSE#PBF
2018-02-23T09:20:15 < dongs> that seems to be the most popular one anyawy
2018-02-23T09:20:19 < dongs> most stock on digijew
2018-02-23T09:20:54 < qyx> I was about to
2018-02-23T09:21:04 < qyx> but there is 3225 wirewound on the prototypes
2018-02-23T09:21:15 < dongs> that PDF looks like a chip coil tho
2018-02-23T09:21:17 < dongs> 0805 or someshit?
2018-02-23T09:21:24 < dongs> or is that 1206/1210
2018-02-23T09:21:43 < qyx> 3216 metric
2018-02-23T09:21:54 < qyx> whats that, probably 1206
2018-02-23T09:22:10 < dongs> 1206 yea
2018-02-23T09:22:21 < qyx> it doesn't matter in this case as it draws ~2mA
2018-02-23T09:22:33 < dongs> so it works for low current too eh
2018-02-23T09:22:45 < qyx> yes
2018-02-23T09:22:46 < dongs> heh, i saw a design on freecancer for some switcher
2018-02-23T09:22:52 < dongs> that used a 10mA 0402 ferrite bead
2018-02-23T09:22:53 < dongs> as a coil
2018-02-23T09:22:56 < dongs> like filtering bead
2018-02-23T09:23:03 < dongs> the guy swore it worked
2018-02-23T09:24:02 < qyx> I could have made those caps smaller and 0805 chip coil
2018-02-23T09:24:08 < qyx> but no need to
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2018-02-23T10:16:48 < dongs> http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~mblaauw/NPSS/ what hte fuck is this
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2018-02-23T11:24:27 < R0b0t1> Anyone ever use ada?
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2018-02-23T11:28:15 < stvn> alright
2018-02-23T11:28:20 < dongs> no, we're not faggots
2018-02-23T11:28:24 < dongs> i heard o6 loves rust tho
2018-02-23T11:29:33 < stvn> 2018-02-23T09:22:46 < dongs> heh, i saw a design on freecancer for some switcher < dongs> that used a 10mA 0402 ferrite bead < dongs> as a coil
2018-02-23T11:29:37 < stvn> pro as fuck
2018-02-23T11:29:49 < dongs> yes
2018-02-23T11:30:04 < dongs> the dude was like "but it worked!"
2018-02-23T11:30:08 < dongs> also all his bypass caps were 10pf
2018-02-23T11:30:15 < zyp> haha
2018-02-23T11:30:18 < stvn> the perfect design
2018-02-23T11:30:28 < stvn> next overunity
2018-02-23T11:30:43 < karlp> R0b0t1: not since university. nice selling points, but you're doing everything yourself with no-one to help you
2018-02-23T11:31:20 < karlp> dongs: I've used an 0805 coil before, but it was for a tiny switcher.
2018-02-23T11:31:36 < dongs> oh sure there are proper chipcoils
2018-02-23T11:31:40 < R0b0t1> karlp: I'm not so sure, https://github.com/AdaCore/Ada_Drivers_Library
2018-02-23T11:31:44 < dongs> i was mostly wtf'ing at a filtering bead
2018-02-23T11:31:50 < dongs> rated at like 10mA
2018-02-23T11:32:26 < R0b0t1> So should I avoid Freelancer? I thought about selling myself on there before, but it seemed like it was heavily weighted in the purchaser's favor
2018-02-23T11:32:28 < karlp> yeah :)
2018-02-23T11:32:58 < karlp> R0b0t1: yeah, it's having a little bit of a resurgence, but that community will still be tiny
2018-02-23T11:33:06 < karlp> be prepared to _reallly_ commit to ada if you want to go down that path
2018-02-23T11:33:39 < karlp> there's haskell and forth drivers around too, you can pick whatever you like, but you're going to have to commit to them
2018-02-23T11:34:18 < karlp> note also that the f4 is the _smallest_ device they target with examples
2018-02-23T11:34:25 < karlp> you migth as well be using micropython :)
2018-02-23T11:35:35 < R0b0t1> That is what I don't really like about capable, but still niche languages
2018-02-23T11:35:41 < R0b0t1> I really like FreePascal, for example
2018-02-23T11:35:59 < R0b0t1> But when using it I spend a lot of time getting things to work with FreePascal, and then getting what I wanted to do working
2018-02-23T11:36:11 < R0b0t1> I'm trying to pay better attention so I know how it compares to my normal work in C
2018-02-23T11:38:25 < R0b0t1> dongs: Some of those songs are catchy
2018-02-23T11:38:38 < dongs> what songs
2018-02-23T11:38:38 < R0b0t1> There was a researcher from the EFF that was calling for AI research to be censored
2018-02-23T11:38:42 < dongs> oh
2018-02-23T11:38:44 < dongs> the NFF shit
2018-02-23T11:38:45 < R0b0t1> http://www.dtic.upf.edu/~mblaauw/NPSS/
2018-02-23T11:40:20 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Ptctl5_qQ
2018-02-23T11:40:49 < dongs> The last link has been flagged by IRC NANNY as "Possibly Unsuitable". Please find your parent(s) first and have them check the content before opening. [this channel protected by IrCNaNNY by SafeSoft v1.0b]
2018-02-23T11:42:53 < stvn> uninstall
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2018-02-23T11:51:44 < dongs> wtf
2018-02-23T11:51:53 < dongs> my shitty windowscalc.exe crashes doing 60%0
2018-02-23T11:53:49 < stvn> I'd buy that for a dollar!
2018-02-23T11:54:03 < stvn> i used to crash it on win95a by pasting text into it
2018-02-23T11:54:18 < stvn> i autismed the idea myself
2018-02-23T12:02:02 < Steffanx> Aha. I crashed my Ti84+
2018-02-23T12:02:58 < Steffanx> It would hang and only getting the batteries out solved it. Loosing all data/applications you did not move to flash/eeprom/non-volatile memory
2018-02-23T12:03:09 < Steffanx> Beat that stvn
2018-02-23T12:03:14 < stvn> ty
2018-02-23T12:03:46 < Steffanx> I have no idea how i even discovered the bug. Probably pure autism as well
2018-02-23T12:04:06 < stvn> yeah this was pure autism on my part
2018-02-23T12:17:15 < stvn> r2com's wife https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAEehPN2STU
2018-02-23T12:18:56 < stvn> Today, we are launching the STM32WB !
2018-02-23T12:18:56 < stvn> With its dual core (CM4/CM0+) architecture BLE 5.0 and IEEE 802.15.4 in single or concurrent mode.
2018-02-23T12:20:39 < dongs> your spam email is late
2018-02-23T12:20:46 < dongs> they launched it yesterday
2018-02-23T12:20:56 < dongs> together with jAVA version of ST-LINK-UTILITY
2018-02-23T12:22:08 < stvn> bet you'd like that hey
2018-02-23T12:33:55  * R0b0t1 sighs
2018-02-23T12:34:00 < R0b0t1> My blinky example doesn't work anymore
2018-02-23T12:34:07 < R0b0t1> Somehow it stops blinking after 8 seconds
2018-02-23T12:34:15 < R0b0t1> The first second is delayed by some random amount
2018-02-23T12:34:19 < dongs> try blink-without-pause.ino
2018-02-23T12:34:21 < stvn> are you drunk
2018-02-23T12:34:46 < stvn> ( R0b0t1  )
2018-02-23T12:34:56 < dongs> no wait
2018-02-23T12:35:01 < dongs> its blink_without_delay.ino
2018-02-23T12:35:07 < dongs> ^ this
2018-02-23T12:35:25 < stvn> wtf is going on here
2018-02-23T12:35:26  * R0b0t1 sighs
2018-02-23T12:35:28 < R0b0t1> stvn: No
2018-02-23T12:35:34 < R0b0t1> This works when I compile it on Windows
2018-02-23T12:35:36 < R0b0t1> I think
2018-02-23T12:35:37 < stvn> i don't have a clue what you guys are on about
2018-02-23T12:35:38 < R0b0t1> Now I need to check
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2018-02-23T12:36:09 < stvn> memes
2018-02-23T12:41:15 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT4jh7Q3_hM
2018-02-23T12:44:13 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll3Sq9usiOc
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2018-02-23T12:47:25 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/a38a4a9316/87768.png
2018-02-23T12:54:46 < dongs> not funny
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2018-02-23T13:10:35 < qyx> dongs: how much is LT8609EMSE#PBF from the chinagirl?
2018-02-23T13:12:24 < Thorn> so my perfectly routed board
2018-02-23T13:12:36 < Thorn> that i checked like 3 times
2018-02-23T13:12:44 < dongs> qyx, probably cheap, but don't know yet cuz almost all of china is still on vacation
2018-02-23T13:12:54 < dongs> she just said it was availble but no price report yet
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2018-02-23T13:13:08 < Thorn> didn't have any traces from the rs-485 driver to the mcu.
2018-02-23T13:13:19 < stvn> hi thorn
2018-02-23T13:13:25 < dongs> i will retweet here once i ahve info
2018-02-23T13:13:30 < qyx> k
2018-02-23T13:13:32 < dongs> cuz it looks useful for my battery s hit
2018-02-23T13:13:43 < Thorn> hi stvn
2018-02-23T13:16:44 < stvn> hmmm tectu isn't on
2018-02-23T13:17:05 < qyx> I am going to prototype some 24V smart-grid like thing, multiple sources, multiple sinks
2018-02-23T13:17:18 < qyx> hopefully it will work
2018-02-23T13:17:26 < qyx> as academic papers say
2018-02-23T13:18:02 < qyx> it is like solar microinverters for 230V, but for 24Vdc
2018-02-23T13:19:07 < stvn> cool
2018-02-23T13:19:12 < stvn> i wish you well
2018-02-23T13:19:35 < qyx> thx
2018-02-23T13:27:42 < Steffanx> Such nice guy the stvn
2018-02-23T13:34:57 < stvn> yeah what a prick
2018-02-23T13:35:49 < dongs> smart dongs
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2018-02-23T13:46:39 < stvn> hello
2018-02-23T13:46:41 < stvn> is there anybody out there
2018-02-23T13:46:57 < zyp> no
2018-02-23T13:47:30 < stvn> hi zyp
2018-02-23T13:47:57 < stvn> do you like senpai's pro services?
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2018-02-23T14:33:34 < Laurenceb> notice me
2018-02-23T14:34:34 < karlp> witness me!
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2018-02-23T14:38:58 < dongs> getting stoned
2018-02-23T14:39:27 < Laurenceb> getting stvn'd
2018-02-23T14:39:38 < dongs> when was the last non-autistic t hing you innovated
2018-02-23T14:40:02 < Laurenceb> never
2018-02-23T14:40:08 < stvn> you got weed nigger
2018-02-23T14:40:14 < Laurenceb> no
2018-02-23T14:40:24 < stvn> dongs, for me its reliable power electronics
2018-02-23T14:40:31 < dongs> ya?
2018-02-23T14:40:35 < stvn> yes
2018-02-23T14:40:37 < dongs> anything in say 10k+ units built + sold?
2018-02-23T14:40:45 < stvn> high power LLC converters
2018-02-23T14:40:51 < stvn> soon soon my friend
2018-02-23T14:40:55 < stvn> very very soon
2018-02-23T14:41:00 < Laurenceb> im in jail
2018-02-23T14:41:02 < Laurenceb> https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/derby-news/munir-mohammed-derby-terrorism-trial-1252231
2018-02-23T14:41:30 < Laurenceb> tfw used to live on same street
2018-02-23T14:41:39 < tomeaton17> Any idea why this rule isnt working https://i.imgur.com/nv9e4HF.png it keeps defaulting to 0.3mm track width
2018-02-23T14:42:02 < Laurenceb> >at risk of being radicalised online
2018-02-23T14:42:04 < Laurenceb> my sides
2018-02-23T14:43:46 < stvn> oh laurence
2018-02-23T14:44:21 < Laurenceb> >implying I'm not a muslim
2018-02-23T14:44:57 < Cracki> remove kebab?
2018-02-23T14:45:01 < kakimir> Is it save to put basically unlimited current supply in different layers of pcb?
2018-02-23T14:45:10 < Cracki> >unlimited
2018-02-23T14:45:11 < kakimir> and have vias thru them
2018-02-23T14:45:44 < zyp> kakimir, totally
2018-02-23T14:45:45 < kakimir> basically a chunk of lipos
2018-02-23T14:46:00 < kakimir> something will fuse
2018-02-23T14:46:04 < kakimir> in case of failure
2018-02-23T14:46:08 < jadew> 9 hours in, this thing is still not fully assembled
2018-02-23T14:46:26 < dongs> kikemir, is uvlo in your shitbuck just part of the chip?
2018-02-23T14:47:46 < kakimir> low Iq comparator
2018-02-23T14:47:54 < kakimir> drives enable of buck regulator
2018-02-23T14:47:56 < stvn> ok
2018-02-23T14:48:01 < stvn> lets get this straight
2018-02-23T14:48:05 < stvn> whatthe fuck is shitbuck
2018-02-23T14:48:07 < stvn> seriously
2018-02-23T14:48:11 < kakimir> max933 to be exact
2018-02-23T14:48:17 < Laurenceb> stvn: a ukp
2018-02-23T14:48:21 < Laurenceb> a £
2018-02-23T14:48:35 < stvn> i see low cost
2018-02-23T14:48:51 < kakimir> should have implemented a pmos power switching instead
2018-02-23T14:48:54 < Cracki> cf. shitcoin
2018-02-23T14:48:55 < kakimir> but anyway it works
2018-02-23T14:49:15 < stvn> wait what the fuck
2018-02-23T14:49:18 < stvn> a comparator
2018-02-23T14:49:41 < kakimir> for solutions where you need simply 5V1A and UVLO and UV alert
2018-02-23T14:49:51 < stvn> 5v1
2018-02-23T14:49:53 < stvn> what
2018-02-23T14:49:58 < stvn> 5v 1a
2018-02-23T14:50:00 < stvn> ok
2018-02-23T14:50:15 < Laurenceb> just shit my channel up with autism bro
2018-02-23T14:50:26 < stvn> yeah no shit
2018-02-23T14:50:33 < stvn> a comparator is now a dcdc
2018-02-23T14:50:34 < stvn> wtf
2018-02-23T14:50:50 < kakimir> my idea was to have momentary button to boot comp with resistor and zener
2018-02-23T14:51:04 < stvn> yeah look
2018-02-23T14:51:12 < stvn> write some kind of design brief or something
2018-02-23T14:51:26 < stvn> cause whatever you're doing doesn't make sense to me at least
2018-02-23T14:52:01 < kakimir> it works but both dividers to comparator stay active all the times so datasheet absolute values can be exceeded for arbitrarilly long times
2018-02-23T14:52:22 < stvn> power management, external ICs wtf
2018-02-23T14:52:39 < kakimir> what are you mumbling
2018-02-23T14:52:40 < stvn> TTM man
2018-02-23T14:52:45 < stvn> my sister
2018-02-23T14:52:49 < kakimir> you are laurence'd
2018-02-23T14:53:15 < stvn> must be
2018-02-23T14:53:24 < stvn> ohsix left so somebody had to fill the gap
2018-02-23T14:53:30 < kakimir> dongs, why do you ask?
2018-02-23T14:54:34 < dongs> kikemir, cuz im just gonna do a separate comparator/something based cutoff stage with a pfet/soemthign
2018-02-23T14:55:20 < kakimir> max933 but doesn't go all the way to 4S maximum voltages
2018-02-23T14:55:24 < kakimir> or max931
2018-02-23T14:55:33 < kakimir> need low Iq ldo
2018-02-23T14:56:00 < kakimir> if that low Iq is what you require for it
2018-02-23T14:56:02 < Laurenceb> ur low IQ amirite?
2018-02-23T14:56:40 < kakimir> dongs, maybe boot it with momentary button and after UVLO switch it all off with pmos switch?
2018-02-23T14:56:53 < dongs> kakimir: something like that yeah
2018-02-23T14:57:09 < kakimir> sounds like ultrabuck2 power switch
2018-02-23T14:57:42 < kakimir> project that was never made
2018-02-23T15:02:02 < kakimir> basically make zero current shutdown at uvlo
2018-02-23T15:02:41 < kakimir> or it jumpered for permanent power on just toggle buck EN pin
2018-02-23T15:06:06 < stvn> fuck i need to piss
2018-02-23T15:06:30 < sync> just let it flow
2018-02-23T15:07:41 < stvn> hi friend
2018-02-23T15:12:44 < kakimir> well hello
2018-02-23T15:28:57 < dongs> stvn, whats with late nite pumping lately
2018-02-23T15:30:18 < stvn> not sure
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2018-02-23T15:30:47 < stvn> just too busy sending pictures of gigangr using hot air rework equipment
2018-02-23T15:30:53 < dongs> haha
2018-02-23T15:31:12 < stvn> sent it to 4 ppl already
2018-02-23T15:31:16 < stvn> 3 replied with rofl
2018-02-23T15:31:21 < dongs> haha
2018-02-23T15:32:32 < dongs> teh 4th one is probably sleeping
2018-02-23T15:32:34 < dongs> like normal people
2018-02-23T15:33:04 < stvn> might send it to that dickhead who thinks fixing his $100 alarm systems is economical
2018-02-23T15:34:08 < stvn> none have failed.
2018-02-23T15:35:46 < stvn> i ran out of patience rejecting warranties for those fucks who ran their 10" boxes as full range front of house pumping jungle beats
2018-02-23T15:36:26 < stvn> 1. you're a fucking idiot
2018-02-23T15:36:34 < stvn> 2. the salesman is a fucking idiot
2018-02-23T15:36:42 < stvn> 3. fuck off
2018-02-23T15:37:00 < dongs> jungle is also shit
2018-02-23T15:37:05 < dongs> happyhardcore or fuck right off
2018-02-23T15:37:30 < stvn> jungle beats is dindu shit
2018-02-23T15:37:54 < stvn> you can send me test tracks
2018-02-23T15:38:00 < stvn> and marijuana
2018-02-23T15:38:39 < stvn> i miss reconing nexo ps15 drivers (10 years of use, paper cones failed)
2018-02-23T15:38:57 < Steffanx> Stvn is on a rollll
2018-02-23T15:39:02 < dongs> more like troll
2018-02-23T15:39:09 < Steffanx> Pump.
2018-02-23T15:39:22 < stvn> they were/are really good boxes
2018-02-23T15:39:30 < Steffanx> http://time.is/australia
2018-02-23T15:39:40 < stvn> time to see your mum
2018-02-23T15:39:45 < Steffanx> Oh its weekend in aussieland
2018-02-23T15:39:51 < stvn> yes dad
2018-02-23T15:40:02 < Steffanx> Ok muscles
2018-02-23T15:40:06 < dongs> the fuck is USB_NOE on some STM32s
2018-02-23T15:40:13 < dongs> is taht for nOE as in some OTG trash power enable?
2018-02-23T15:40:31 < stvn> dunno
2018-02-23T15:40:33 < dongs> i'm way too lazy to open datasheet/RM
2018-02-23T15:40:38 < stvn> same
2018-02-23T15:40:42 < stvn> hence dunno
2018-02-23T15:40:50 < stvn> who would ask this shit
2018-02-23T15:40:56 < zyp> dongs, which stm32?
2018-02-23T15:41:09 < dongs> https://i.warosu.org/data/g/img/0601/47/1493601729411.jpg
2018-02-23T15:41:15 < dongs> zyp, some L4321 shit I gues
2018-02-23T15:41:15 < stvn> 4chan much
2018-02-23T15:41:15 < dongs> sec
2018-02-23T15:41:29 < dongs> L432 yea
2018-02-23T15:41:32 < Steffanx> 072 has it too irc
2018-02-23T15:41:34 < Steffanx> Iirc
2018-02-23T15:41:45 < Steffanx> F
2018-02-23T15:41:49 < stvn> but stffn is NXP4lyf
2018-02-23T15:41:58 < Steffanx> Lpc
2018-02-23T15:42:13 < stvn> yiss
2018-02-23T15:42:20 < Laurenceb> holy shit dat photo
2018-02-23T15:42:27 < dongs> USB Physical Interface (USB PHY): This block is maintaining the electrical interface to an external USB host. It contains the differential analog transceiver itself, controllable
2018-02-23T15:42:29 < zyp> hmm, that's the v2 device only core
2018-02-23T15:42:30 < dongs> embedded pull-up resistor (connected to USB_DP line) and support for Battery
2018-02-23T15:42:33 < dongs> Charging Detection (BCD), multiplexed on same USB_DP and USB_DM lines. The
2018-02-23T15:42:35 < Laurenceb> my sides are in orbit
2018-02-23T15:42:35 < dongs> output enable control signal of the analog transceiver (active low) is provided externally on USB_NOE. It can be used to drive some activity LED or to provide information about
2018-02-23T15:42:39 < dongs> the actual communication direction to some other circuitry.
2018-02-23T15:42:58 < zyp> ah
2018-02-23T15:43:08 < zyp> so activity led output
2018-02-23T15:43:09 < stvn> isn't that just swell
2018-02-23T15:43:16 < dongs> zyp, basically blink when there's USB traffic??
2018-02-23T15:43:24 < zyp> sounds a bit like it
2018-02-23T15:43:45 < stvn> i feel the IoT wave heading my way :///
2018-02-23T15:43:53 < zyp> well, probably not useful
2018-02-23T15:44:22 < zyp> if it turns on every time you're outputting a token, then it'll probably signal NAKs as well
2018-02-23T15:44:28 < Laurenceb> it knows https://imgoat.com/uploads/a38a4a9316/87795.png
2018-02-23T15:44:37 < zyp> which happens all the time if you've got a pending transfer
2018-02-23T15:46:40 < dongs> 'output enable of analog transceiver'
2018-02-23T15:46:50 < dongs> doesn't that sound like its on whenever usb shit is on and plugged in?
2018-02-23T15:48:59 < zyp> I figure it's like the DE signal of a RS485 transceiver, i.e. on only when it's writing, not reading
2018-02-23T15:49:52 < zyp> in that case I expect it'll turn on when a device is answering a poll, otherwise remain off
2018-02-23T15:50:24 < zyp> thing is, when you've got a pending transfer and are NAKing due to flow control, you'll be polled continously
2018-02-23T15:51:03 < zyp> i.e. just NAK tokens will also show up as activity
2018-02-23T15:51:14 < englishman> good morning stvn
2018-02-23T15:51:27 < stvn> hi sir
2018-02-23T15:51:40 < Laurenceb> >Steven Ellam, the Middletown man who crashed his car into the entrance at Middlesex Hospital Thursday morning, recorded the incident on Facebook Live. Ellam ranted about President Donald Trump and one percenters, shouting, “Death to the world order,” before setting himself on fire. He says the Hospital is Trump’s Headquarters
2018-02-23T15:51:46 < Laurenceb> my sides can only take so much
2018-02-23T15:53:10 < englishman> ragepberripi zero has a different mipi port than all other shitberrypi to date
2018-02-23T15:53:19 < dongs> its same as on cm breakout board.
2018-02-23T15:53:27 < Laurenceb> never saw that one coming englishman
2018-02-23T15:53:35 < dongs> because it finally has all 4 lanes routed to it
2018-02-23T15:53:39 < dongs> at least i fucking hope so
2018-02-23T15:53:41 < englishman> dongs replied to that surprisingly fast
2018-02-23T15:53:48 < dongs> <3
2018-02-23T15:53:58 < dongs> and no
2018-02-23T15:54:01 < dongs> looks like they cucked it up
2018-02-23T15:54:04 < dongs> i only see 2 lanes
2018-02-23T15:54:06 < dongs> fucking lol
2018-02-23T15:55:44 < dongs> Laurenceb: you should check out jerry ellsworthless kikepedia page
2018-02-23T15:56:48 < englishman> compute module has a mipi port?
2018-02-23T15:57:08 < englishman> its jut broken out to the sodimm
2018-02-23T15:58:09 < Laurenceb> lul drama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jeri_Ellsworth
2018-02-23T15:58:19 < dongs> englishman: two, yes
2018-02-23T15:58:23 < dongs> 4 lanes on both
2018-02-23T15:58:23 < dongs> iirc
2018-02-23T15:58:45 < Laurenceb> >Nomination of Jeri Ellsworth for deletion
2018-02-23T15:58:52 < Laurenceb> do it
2018-02-23T15:59:06 < dongs> hahaa
2018-02-23T15:59:09 < dongs> please
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2018-02-23T16:02:45 < stvn> lol
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2018-02-23T16:31:10 < karlp> heh, usb activity led.
2018-02-23T16:31:15 < dongs> right?
2018-02-23T16:31:16 < karlp> so clear and reliable
2018-02-23T16:32:14 < stvn> wtf
2018-02-23T16:32:21 < karlp> ftdi driver for linux blinks continuously because the damn chip has to be polled to get data
2018-02-23T16:32:23 < stvn> fair enough
2018-02-23T16:32:28 < karlp> cp210x driver blinks when there's serial traffic.
2018-02-23T16:32:31 < stvn> ah
2018-02-23T16:32:48 < karlp> "not a bug, works per design, blinks on usb traffic"
2018-02-23T16:32:59 < karlp> "not our concern that some usb traffic is completely useless driver chat"
2018-02-23T16:34:08 < dongs> > because the damn chip has to be polled to get data
2018-02-23T16:34:15 < dongs> isnt that how usb works anyway
2018-02-23T16:35:10 < karlp> by sending tokens, yes, but something do with the protocol that the ftdi chip uses requires actual traffic, even with no data
2018-02-23T16:35:14 < karlp> but not on the cp210x
2018-02-23T16:35:26 < dongs> but wait how do you notice this?
2018-02-23T16:35:33 < dongs> what is "lunix driver blinking"?
2018-02-23T16:35:49 < dongs> my cp2102s dont have activity leds
2018-02-23T16:36:01 < karlp> you can configure a trigger on a led,
2018-02-23T16:36:02 < dongs> iirc they can be enabled on 2104 but you need to use thier flashing tool
2018-02-23T16:36:10 < karlp> not tied to the cp210x itself
2018-02-23T16:36:18 < dongs> so its something lunix does?
2018-02-23T16:36:18 < karlp> just any led, based on usb traffic through the kernel
2018-02-23T16:36:28 < karlp> /sys/class/leds/<ledname>/trigger
2018-02-23T16:36:31 < dongs> lol
2018-02-23T16:36:32 < karlp> there's one for usb traffic
2018-02-23T16:36:34 < dongs> fucking awful
2018-02-23T16:36:44 < dongs> lunix, making useless shit since 1991
2018-02-23T16:36:57 < karlp> works real good for getting leds on things with no leds connected to the hardware itself.
2018-02-23T16:37:07 < karlp> wifi and net stuff all work nicely,
2018-02-23T16:37:15 < karlp> but the usb one is a bit dumb, as I just described
2018-02-23T16:37:24 < dongs> well sores is open
2018-02-23T16:37:25 < dongs> lets fix it
2018-02-23T16:38:57 < dongs> wow i just guessed lunix release year
2018-02-23T16:41:15 < stvn> creeoy
2018-02-23T16:41:17 < stvn> creepy
2018-02-23T16:41:24 < stvn> or is that when u forked it into lfn
2018-02-23T16:42:25 < stvn> lfn
2018-02-23T16:42:34 < stvn> aka ubuntu
2018-02-23T16:42:47 < stvn> (serious answer)
2018-02-23T16:43:18 < dongs> superbia: windows 10 and some hypervisor
2018-02-23T16:43:32 < dongs> so you can shift-delete it
2018-02-23T16:43:34 < dongs> quickly
2018-02-23T16:43:37 < dongs> and go back to doing work
2018-02-23T16:44:58 < stvn> i guess the whole lfn experience lasts 3 seconds
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2018-02-23T16:50:52 < Laurenceb> http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1872256.pdf?_ga=2.51080236.448598677.1519330152-833628756.1503323536&_gac=1.241831350.1519396807.EAIaIQobChMIlMW8lqK82QIVx7ftCh0wwgyXEAAYASAAEgIiqvD_BwE
2018-02-23T16:51:06 < Laurenceb> im going to swap the transformers in muh adaptors
2018-02-23T16:57:14 < Laurenceb> inb4 i fried all the things
2018-02-23T17:07:56 < tomeaton17> the best lunix for a beginner is definitely arch
2018-02-23T17:08:04 < dongs> oh fuck right off
2018-02-23T17:08:19 < dongs> what did they change from wahtever shit they forked from
2018-02-23T17:08:23 < dongs> some new wallpapers
2018-02-23T17:08:33 < dongs> and some new arcane mile-0long comman lines
2018-02-23T17:08:45 < dongs> ./faggot --enable-garbage
2018-02-23T17:08:56 < BrainDamage> arch didn't fork from anything, and it's one of the worst to start with
2018-02-23T17:08:59 < tomeaton17> triggered?
2018-02-23T17:09:06 < BrainDamage> dongs is always triggered
2018-02-23T17:09:11 < dongs> BrainDamage < this guy lunixes
2018-02-23T17:09:24 < zyp> arch is not so bad as a toy, just a pain for a computer you actually wanna do something useful with
2018-02-23T17:09:38 < dongs> isnt that the truth about any lunix
2018-02-23T17:09:44 < dongs> i mean, who uses lunix on desktop to "do anything useful"
2018-02-23T17:09:57 < zyp> I made the mistake of putting arch on my first work pc
2018-02-23T17:10:03 < tomeaton17> I like arch as it cuts the crap out
2018-02-23T17:10:10 < dongs> what 'crap"
2018-02-23T17:10:23 < tomeaton17> aptitude
2018-02-23T17:11:12 < zyp> the problem with arch is the fucking rolling release bullshit that means you always end up with half your software broken due to dep mismatches
2018-02-23T17:11:53 < tomeaton17> yeah that part is a bit cancer
2018-02-23T17:12:17 < tomeaton17> And having a laptop nvidia graphics card is such a pain on linux
2018-02-23T17:12:30 < zyp> you can make it work if you spend all day tinkering with it, but if you'd rather just do some useful work, rather use something else
2018-02-23T17:12:33 < Steffanx> Is "cancer" the new "shit"?
2018-02-23T17:12:39 < dongs> yeah
2018-02-23T17:12:49 < zyp> even ubuntu is better than arch
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2018-02-23T17:13:09 < zyp> and I hate ubuntu too
2018-02-23T17:13:48 < tomeaton17> top kek
2018-02-23T17:14:22 < Steffanx> What do you love zyp? Your hackintosh?
2018-02-23T17:14:25 < zyp> ubuntu is like "hey, this debian thing works too well, let's clone it and break it"
2018-02-23T17:14:43 < dongs> pretty sure zyp has a legit steve-autographed macfag
2018-02-23T17:14:46 < zyp> Steffanx, dunno, I've just been using windows at work recently
2018-02-23T17:16:08 < zyp> for server stuff I use debian, but I haven't tried running that on a desktop yet
2018-02-23T17:16:09 < Ultrasauce> I use arch errday, the issues mentioned are fixed by getting gud
2018-02-23T17:16:23 < Thorn> I received a ssd upgrade kit for my mac mini. now I just need the ssd itself :/
2018-02-23T17:16:41 < zyp> dongs, idk
2018-02-23T17:16:51 < zyp> I mean, I do have a genuine macbook
2018-02-23T17:17:03 < zyp> but my main workstation at home is a hackintosh
2018-02-23T17:18:16 < zyp> hackintosh replaced a four year old imac "because it's getting old and due for a replacement"
2018-02-23T17:18:42 < zyp> hackintosh is now six years old and still feels new, performance wise
2018-02-23T17:19:07 < dongs> not hard to have performance doing nothing
2018-02-23T17:19:25 < Steffanx> -_-
2018-02-23T17:19:31 < zyp> more like, the imac was maxed out at 4GB RAM
2018-02-23T17:19:35 < zyp> the hackintosh has 32
2018-02-23T17:20:27 < zyp> also has a decent cpu/gpu, and since I don't play games those are plenty
2018-02-23T17:20:59 < zyp> I did upgrade the ssd last year though, because I filled up the old one
2018-02-23T17:21:54 < zyp> I don't expect to replace it for another few years
2018-02-23T17:22:13 < Steffanx> Used hackintosh for ages too, but it doesnt play well with my gtx1060, so i stopped using it
2018-02-23T17:22:25 < zyp> how come?
2018-02-23T17:22:33 < Rob235> I gotz a mbp for everyday shit and a gaming HTPC for crypto mining, watching movies and gaming when the desire arises
2018-02-23T17:22:47 < Rob235> wouldnt want anything else
2018-02-23T17:22:52 < Steffanx> Gfx acceleration is gone after sleep modd
2018-02-23T17:22:53 < Steffanx> Mode
2018-02-23T17:22:59 < dongs> > crypto mining
2018-02-23T17:23:03 < dongs> lmao fucking autism
2018-02-23T17:23:13 < Rob235> why not, free money
2018-02-23T17:23:17 < zyp> "free"
2018-02-23T17:23:24 < Rob235> I'm not paying for electricity right now
2018-02-23T17:23:34 < Steffanx> Lol
2018-02-23T17:23:44 < englishman> i got some "free" money panhandling downtown
2018-02-23T17:23:48 < zyp> so you're basically stealing
2018-02-23T17:23:54 < englishman> probably more than buttcoin mining
2018-02-23T17:23:59 < Rob235> zyp: no its a donation :)
2018-02-23T17:23:59 < englishman> on a laptop
2018-02-23T17:25:15 < Rob235> if you want to wrap your own springs what kinda wire would you use?
2018-02-23T17:26:07 < Steffanx> I wouldnt. Would just buy some :P
2018-02-23T17:26:09 < Rob235> could I rewrap a spring I have or would it lose its springy'ness
2018-02-23T17:26:47 < Rob235> Yea I saw  a pack of 82 for $4 but if they dont have a size I need I was just curious what my options would be
2018-02-23T17:27:13 < Rob235> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-Spring-Assortment-Kit-84-Pack-13554/203133714
2018-02-23T17:27:16 < Rob235> 84*
2018-02-23T17:27:41 < Rob235> they all look pretty small
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2018-02-23T17:43:07 < Adluc> anyone here building custom BMS?
2018-02-23T17:43:13 < Adluc> 5S or similar?
2018-02-23T17:43:15 < dongs> -> kikemir
2018-02-23T17:45:47 < tomeaton17> why is desktop window manager using 90% of my gpu wtf its making altium run like shit
2018-02-23T17:47:08 < dongs> what garbage GPU do you have
2018-02-23T17:48:20 < tomeaton17> gtx 1050
2018-02-23T17:48:30 < dongs> then youre full of crap
2018-02-23T17:48:35 < dongs> and/or running lunix in an emulator
2018-02-23T17:49:23 < tomeaton17> I am running two 4k monitors but its just started slowing down recently
2018-02-23T17:49:32 < tomeaton17> and no I have another harddrive for lunix
2018-02-23T17:51:37 < dongs> tomeaton17: which part is slow
2018-02-23T17:51:44 < dongs> actual altiuming? or startup
2018-02-23T17:52:01 < tomeaton17> routing a track is like a slideshow
2018-02-23T17:52:36 < dongs> oh thats just altium being altium
2018-02-23T17:52:39 < dongs> are youdoing multiroute?
2018-02-23T17:53:36 < tomeaton17> no its not normal it only happens periodically and when I check task manager desktop window manager is around 90% gpu
2018-02-23T17:53:49 < zyp> the fuck is broken with your system?
2018-02-23T17:54:00 < tomeaton17> I would like to know that
2018-02-23T17:54:07 < dongs> yeah i'm wiht zyp here
2018-02-23T17:54:13 < dongs> 1050 is perfectly fine for altiuming
2018-02-23T17:54:15 < zyp> I run altium in fucking vmware on macos on a hackintosh and it's smooth and fine
2018-02-23T17:54:42 < tomeaton17> I dont think the problem is altium its fine normally
2018-02-23T17:54:54 < zyp> of course it's not altium, it's your system
2018-02-23T17:55:47 < tomeaton17> maybe some of the videos I downloaded were dodgy
2018-02-23T17:56:11 < Steffanx> Videos dodgy?
2018-02-23T17:56:23 < zyp> oh, you've been looking at tentacle porn again
2018-02-23T17:56:45 < Steffanx> Does that come with stuff that breaks windows?
2018-02-23T17:57:10 < tomeaton17> yeah sorry zyp :(
2018-02-23T17:58:58 < tomeaton17> Ill run a virus scan and see what it says
2018-02-23T17:59:19 < Steffanx> Dont tell your employer
2018-02-23T18:00:09 < Steffanx> He is from the uk iirc, so might not be far from the truth
2018-02-23T18:00:37 < tomeaton17> Its my own laptop so they dont need to know
2018-02-23T18:00:37 < jadew> done assembling the prusa
2018-02-23T18:00:41 < jadew> total time: 12 hours
2018-02-23T18:00:57 < dongs> imagine if you billed for that at your usual work rate
2018-02-23T18:01:07 < dongs> you could get a printer that isnt FUCKIGN GARBAGE
2018-02-23T18:01:12 < jadew> haha
2018-02-23T18:01:40 < jadew> it was fun at first, but then it got a bit frustrating, but anyway, it's done now
2018-02-23T18:01:44 < tomeaton17> they gave me a laptop when I came along with a 4k monitor
2018-02-23T18:01:48 < jadew> I have to run and test it when I'm back
2018-02-23T18:01:50 < Steffanx> Uhm, i remember jadew complained about his hourly rate:P
2018-02-23T18:01:55 < tomeaton17> but the laptop only had hdmi 1 so was pretty much useless
2018-02-23T18:02:12 < dongs> no USB-C?
2018-02-23T18:02:22 < Steffanx> L
2018-02-23T18:02:34 < dongs> nobody should be using cuckdmi, fucking garbage
2018-02-23T18:02:39 < dongs> usbc with displayport altmode = win
2018-02-23T18:03:40 < dongs> i altium'd on mobile 1050, it works fine
2018-02-23T18:03:51 < tomeaton17> no it doesnt have usb c
2018-02-23T18:04:05 < tomeaton17> So I just use my own laptop which has usb c and a mobile 1050
2018-02-23T18:05:03 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzxkJETW7lg
2018-02-23T18:05:09 < kakimir> classics
2018-02-23T18:10:54 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=Fa-GpwBjsjQ music time
2018-02-23T18:13:56 < kakimir> I did 4S BMS and 5led bar + push button in area of 65mm x 18mm :|
2018-02-23T18:14:18 < kakimir> there is just enought room
2018-02-23T18:21:43 < Laurenceb> https://www.frankieactionfigure.com/product-page/frankie-macdonald-action-figure
2018-02-23T18:21:56 < dongs> The last link has been flagged by IRC NANNY as "Possibly Unsuitable". Please find your parent(s) first and have them check the content before opening. [this channel protected by IrCNaNNY by SafeSoft v1.0b]
2018-02-23T18:31:33 < Thorn> if I have a bh1730/1750 light sensor and a 0805 led next to it, can the led illuminate the sensor and cause wrong readings?
2018-02-23T18:32:25 < Thorn>  what if I turn the led so that its pad is facing the sensor, will that help
2018-02-23T18:32:26 < Lux> just turn off the led when reading it
2018-02-23T18:32:33 < dongs> ^
2018-02-23T18:32:37 < Thorn> it's a power led
2018-02-23T18:32:54 < dongs> how did you manage that design
2018-02-23T18:32:59 < dongs> outsourced to kikemir?
2018-02-23T18:33:00 < Thorn> or maybe not, I just moved the power led away
2018-02-23T18:33:29 < Thorn> lol
2018-02-23T18:35:25 < Thorn> https://i.imgur.com/0G3ubBk.png
2018-02-23T18:35:28 < Lux> you might still see an influence if it can reflect off other parts in your device
2018-02-23T18:35:46 < Lux> like the case or whatever
2018-02-23T18:36:36 < Thorn> yeah, I'm concerned about direct illumination
2018-02-23T18:36:49 < Thorn> anyway the only nearby led is controlled by the mcu
2018-02-23T18:40:47 < Thorn> should be fascinating to see if it actually influences the reading or not
2018-02-23T18:42:29 < Thorn> if I manage to solder that qfn that is lol
2018-02-23T18:43:35 < zyp> just calibrate the light sensor to account for the extra light from the led if any
2018-02-23T18:50:26 < qyx> mhrm arch
2018-02-23T18:50:44 < qyx> lets troll about it
2018-02-23T18:51:56 < karlp> wasns't it arch that was causing people to get that npm permissions thing the other day?
2018-02-23T18:52:59 < qyx> idk I am using 20 years old debian
2018-02-23T18:53:02 < Ultrasauce> pretty reachy to blame the distro for that one
2018-02-23T18:53:15 < dongs> yeah this is 100% javajew problem
2018-02-23T18:53:20 < qyx> to get some work actually done
2018-02-23T18:53:27 < qyx> instead of installing and updating every week
2018-02-23T18:53:48 < tomeaton17> No it had nothing to do with arch
2018-02-23T18:53:59 < tomeaton17> it had everything to do with npm being awful
2018-02-23T18:58:39 < Thorn> I use yarn
2018-02-23T18:58:43 < Thorn> https://www.instagram.com/p/BfiiEPDnjlL/
2018-02-23T18:59:46 < dongs> why is that photo like 640x240
2018-02-23T18:59:49 < dongs> and not resizeable
2018-02-23T19:00:41 < Laurenceb> instagram?!
2018-02-23T19:00:46 < Laurenceb> camwhores incloming
2018-02-23T19:01:06 < Laurenceb> wtf is that
2018-02-23T19:01:14 < Laurenceb> looks like a fapstation
2018-02-23T19:01:21 < Laurenceb> where is the youporn
2018-02-23T19:01:27 < tomeaton17> its a aerial fapstation
2018-02-23T19:01:47 < tomeaton17> the developers of npm are just stupid. Who calls a "pre-release" 5.7.0?
2018-02-23T19:02:14 < dongs> same people who switched lunix kernel numbering from shit that makees sense
2018-02-23T19:02:19 < dongs> to completely senseless garbage
2018-02-23T19:02:32 < dongs> i mean as much as lunix deosn't make sense, the numbering switch was idiotic 100%
2018-02-23T19:02:56 < zyp> haha, fucking bikeshedding
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2018-02-23T19:03:25 < tomeaton17> I can see why people upgraded to it thinking that it was a full release
2018-02-23T19:03:41 < dongs> tomeaton17: i think it wasnt even manual upgrades
2018-02-23T19:03:45 < dongs> the shit had some autoupdate stuff
2018-02-23T19:03:49 < dongs> which automatically pulled shit
2018-02-23T19:04:12 < tomeaton17> lol
2018-02-23T19:04:14 < tomeaton17> just npm things
2018-02-23T19:04:43 < tomeaton17> they have a bot on the github which deletes issues that havent been touched for 30 days nice
2018-02-23T19:05:04 < dongs> thats how you progress
2018-02-23T19:05:14 < qyx> sounds like totality
2018-02-23T19:06:03 < tomeaton17> lol progress by ignoring issues
2018-02-23T19:07:03 < tomeaton17> They call themselves open source but havent accepted a pr from outside dev for ages
2018-02-23T19:09:03 < karlp> open doesn't mean collaborative, just open for others too see
2018-02-23T19:09:08 < karlp> you think google accepts code from anyone?
2018-02-23T19:09:45 < tomeaton17> Im saying they might as well be closed source, everyone can see problems but they are not willing to let others help
2018-02-23T19:12:00 < karlp> that's not true
2018-02-23T19:12:12 < karlp> you can still maintainyour own fork at least,
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2018-02-23T19:12:21 < karlp> it's still better than closed source,
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2018-02-23T19:12:34 < karlp> but yeah, pseudo open is not a lot of fun in general.
2018-02-23T19:23:22 < Laurenceb> wtf audacity is limited to 32channels
2018-02-23T19:23:24 < Laurenceb> epin fail
2018-02-23T19:23:52 < karlp> you have an odd definition of epic sometimes lolrence
2018-02-23T19:23:58 < dongs> does it still create 20gigs of short .aiff files in %TEMP% when you try to open a 1gb .mp3 file?
2018-02-23T19:24:08 < Laurenceb> yes
2018-02-23T19:24:14 < Laurenceb> wtf whyy
2018-02-23T19:24:25 < Laurenceb> there are two bytes for the channel count in wav
2018-02-23T19:24:33 < Laurenceb> 100 channels in the gui
2018-02-23T19:26:46 < qyx> do you 100 channels every day?
2018-02-23T19:26:56 < Laurenceb> yes
2018-02-23T19:29:50 < englishman> better get the hospital to expense ableton
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2018-02-23T19:31:53 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3UlKCqtZrc
2018-02-23T19:34:18 < dongs> they're all mac faggots
2018-02-23T19:34:34 < dongs> oh no there's some fucking thinkpad with a VGA port
2018-02-23T19:37:04 < dongs> haha englishman thats a troll version of the original live10 one
2018-02-23T19:37:14 < englishman> lol took you a minute
2018-02-23T19:37:22 < dongs> i was liek wtf why would a legit company have something about "fuck bitches" or wahtever in there
2018-02-23T19:38:50 < zyp> haha
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2018-02-23T19:47:59 < upgrdman> so i dont have this limit, but just curious: theres only 2^16 network ports. so theres no way for >2^16 (prolly less since some may be reserved) processes to use the network on a device?
2018-02-23T19:48:14 < upgrdman> again, wtf would you have 2^16 network processes running, but just curious
2018-02-23T19:48:40 < qyx> you bind to multiple ips
2018-02-23T19:48:59 < dongs> upgrdman: what, number of incoming ocnnections to a listening port isn't limtied
2018-02-23T19:49:02 < upgrdman> multiple ips routed through the same RJ45?
2018-02-23T19:49:22 < upgrdman> dongs, oh shit
2018-02-23T19:49:24 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-23T19:49:31 < upgrdman> lol nm
2018-02-23T19:49:36 < qyx> incoming as dongs says
2018-02-23T19:49:44 < upgrdman> so limit is 2^16 *servers*
2018-02-23T19:49:49 < dongs> its not like you need a new port for each connection..
2018-02-23T19:50:01 < qyx> outgoing may reach the limit if connecting to the same service
2018-02-23T19:50:17 < qyx> a connection is defined by two sockets
2018-02-23T19:50:22 < qyx> each is defined by ip:port
2018-02-23T19:50:26 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-23T19:50:39 < qyx> so if the server is the same and your outgoing ip is the same
2018-02-23T19:50:44 < qyx> you have to use different local ports
2018-02-23T19:50:50 < upgrdman> ya
2018-02-23T19:57:25 < tomeaton17> have a nice weekend chaps
2018-02-23T20:00:13 < upgrdman> kinda neat:  https://polyfloyd.net/post/opengl-shaders-ledcube/
2018-02-23T20:00:38 < upgrdman> would be fun to make that with a 9DOF so you can render a shape, and have it update based on cube orientation
2018-02-23T20:00:54 < dongs> > raspberrypi
2018-02-23T20:00:55 < dongs> christ.
2018-02-23T20:02:15 < qyx> toda  I nearly bought rpi3 + csi camera
2018-02-23T20:02:26 < dongs> haha link to those led panels
2018-02-23T20:02:28 < dongs> UtralHD
2018-02-23T20:02:34 < qyx> because there is no sane timelapse camera available
2018-02-23T20:02:34 < dongs> but holy shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit the price
2018-02-23T20:02:43 < dongs> 18 bucks for 64x64 2.5P panel
2018-02-23T20:02:47 < dongs> that is fucking incredible
2018-02-23T20:02:51 < upgrdman> https://i.imgur.com/GzwMeIl.gifv
2018-02-23T20:02:58 < dongs> thats 4 thousand leds
2018-02-23T20:03:20 < dongs> https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/fucking-autism/32533038333.html
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2018-02-23T20:04:41 < qyx> looks pro
2018-02-23T20:04:48 < dongs> i mean for $4k you can have a 1280x720 screen of these things
2018-02-23T20:04:54 < dongs> that is fucking nuts
2018-02-23T20:05:11 < dongs> (and proibably need $4k worth of power supplies for it)
2018-02-23T20:07:54 < dongs> upgrdman: blow your money on 6 panels asap and do the acc/gyro thing.
2018-02-23T20:08:13 < upgrdman> tempted to but i got too little free time these days
2018-02-23T20:08:15 < dongs> your monetization on jewtube will skyrocket
2018-02-23T20:08:19 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-23T20:08:39 < dongs> bonus points for making it self-contained with a lipo inside
2018-02-23T20:08:44 < upgrdman> ya
2018-02-23T20:08:52 < upgrdman> not sure an f7 would be powerful enough tho
2018-02-23T20:08:55 < upgrdman> for 60hz
2018-02-23T20:09:00 < dongs> just rageberry it, who cares
2018-02-23T20:09:04 < upgrdman> true
2018-02-23T20:09:07 < upgrdman> also more SEO that way
2018-02-23T20:09:31 < dongs> yeah my dumb hdmi on rageberry shit gets the most views despite being ancient
2018-02-23T20:09:44 < Laurenceb> https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=afc_1519403204
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2018-02-23T20:18:39 < dongs> http://www.electrodragon.com/product/rgb-matrix-panel-drive-board-raspberry-pi/ haha the driver panel is like $1.6
2018-02-23T20:18:54 < dongs> o wait $2.2
2018-02-23T20:18:55 < dongs> wahtever
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2018-02-23T22:25:12 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/a38a4a9316/87924.png
2018-02-23T22:25:15 < Laurenceb> freaky shit
2018-02-23T22:25:27 < Laurenceb> led flash glitches the magnotometer
2018-02-23T22:27:33 < [7]> any recommendations on a cheap/china PCB manufacturer for a couple of prototypes of a 4-layer board with a 400-ball .8mm pitch BGA chip on it?
2018-02-23T22:30:21 < upgrdman> Laurenceb, is led near the magn?
2018-02-23T22:30:38 < upgrdman> isnt magnetic fux proportional to current and distance
2018-02-23T22:31:00 < [7]> possibly also fields from switch mode converters
2018-02-23T22:31:03 < Ultrasauce> better throw a transformer on there
2018-02-23T22:31:16 < upgrdman> i was some fap note a while ago warning to keep even signal traces >10mm from a magnetometer
2018-02-23T22:31:20 < upgrdman> for this very reason
2018-02-23T22:31:49 < upgrdman> s/was/read
2018-02-23T22:33:02 < Laurenceb> upgrdman: luckily thats the error led
2018-02-23T22:33:11 < Laurenceb> green ok led doesnt seem nearly so bad
2018-02-23T22:33:26 < upgrdman> cool. so an error led causes another error :) so pro
2018-02-23T22:33:42 < Laurenceb> yeah its not an issue, just interesting how sensitivtive it is
2018-02-23T22:33:49 < Laurenceb> like 25mA, 8mm away
2018-02-23T22:33:49 < upgrdman> "yes, you see, this ENSUREs there's actually an error."
2018-02-23T22:34:29 < Laurenceb> afk, bbl
2018-02-23T22:38:49 < kakimir> movie recommds?
2018-02-23T22:39:13 < kakimir> Laurenceb, what led flashes?
2018-02-23T22:39:21 < kakimir> strobe light or just indicator?
2018-02-23T22:39:33 < kakimir> what leds?
2018-02-23T22:39:45 < kakimir> how many? what current?
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2018-02-23T22:54:11 < Steffanx> He told all of that kakimir ;)
2018-02-23T22:58:01 < kakimir> movie recommends: Under The Skin
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2018-02-23T23:08:12 < Steffanx> meh that movie is just so-so
2018-02-23T23:08:35 < kakimir> did you watch it?
2018-02-23T23:08:50 < Steffanx> yes
2018-02-23T23:08:58 < kakimir> I think it's the best scarlet johnson film
2018-02-23T23:12:21 < Steffanx> hah ok
2018-02-23T23:14:38 < kakimir> in every film she is just the bad bitz killing everyone singlehandedly
2018-02-23T23:15:08 < Steffanx> uhm, you ask for a recommendation. Then you will get some, you wont listen and then you pick one yourself.
2018-02-23T23:15:20 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-23T23:15:35 < kakimir> after you hear the recommendations you must find a movie by your own
2018-02-23T23:16:21 < kakimir> no.. but because you don't pick any of the movies anyone recommends :]
2018-02-23T23:16:36 < kakimir> *in my case
2018-02-23T23:18:19 < kakimir> when they kick me out at night from work place it's time to watch movie
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2018-02-23T23:18:39 < kakimir> repeat
2018-02-23T23:19:51 < kakimir> I don't even watch movies that much
2018-02-23T23:19:54 < kakimir> once a week
2018-02-23T23:20:22 < kakimir> also I don't have television or anything so
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2018-02-23T23:22:50 < Steffanx> that's now how it works. you just ask for a recommendation
2018-02-23T23:23:44 < Steffanx> Does drama relax you?
2018-02-23T23:23:52 < Steffanx> or does over the top action relax you?
2018-02-23T23:25:24 < upgrdman> superbia, watch Roots
2018-02-23T23:25:25 < Steffanx> Sounds like you are in need for some Predators.
2018-02-23T23:25:42 < Steffanx> roots is a series right?
2018-02-23T23:25:45 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-23T23:25:50 < Steffanx> and no white guy :P
2018-02-23T23:25:52 < upgrdman> YOUR NAME IS TOBE
2018-02-23T23:26:23 < upgrdman> plenty of white guys. theyre the ones adventuring ;)
2018-02-23T23:26:53 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thpEyEwi80
2018-02-23T23:27:09 < upgrdman> superbia, its white guys going on an adventure to africa
2018-02-23T23:27:20 < upgrdman> and by adventure, i mean capturing slaves
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2018-02-23T23:28:42 < upgrdman> this is irc
2018-02-23T23:28:46 < upgrdman> what did you expect
2018-02-23T23:28:51 < upgrdman> gentlemen and scholars?
2018-02-23T23:29:21 < upgrdman> why would i want to visit that third-world shithole of a country?
2018-02-23T23:29:29 < Steffanx> I officially hate romanians, superbia. Im sorry for that.
2018-02-23T23:29:40 < Steffanx> Yesterday I hit a romanian girl with my car.
2018-02-23T23:29:50 < Steffanx> because she fucklign decided to cross the road when she was not supposed to
2018-02-23T23:29:51 < upgrdman> felt good huh
2018-02-23T23:30:03 < upgrdman> lol
2018-02-23T23:30:45 < Steffanx> Nah im joking about the hate superbia. Shit happens.
2018-02-23T23:31:32 < kakimir> lol
2018-02-23T23:31:37 < upgrdman> haha
2018-02-23T23:31:40 < Steffanx> lolwut.
2018-02-23T23:31:43 < kakimir> was that rage quit?
2018-02-23T23:31:48 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-23T23:32:18 < Steffanx> That's why he does.
2018-02-23T23:32:19 < kakimir> was supurbia the one with uptight attitude?
2018-02-23T23:32:24 < upgrdman> yes
2018-02-23T23:32:27 < kakimir> oh
2018-02-23T23:32:29 < Steffanx> now i can forward my rage towards jadew.
2018-02-23T23:32:38 < kakimir> he is mellow
2018-02-23T23:32:59 < upgrdman> that just means we need to try harder
2018-02-23T23:33:08 < kakimir> you have gf/wife Steffanx?
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2018-02-23T23:33:41 < Steffanx> You can be my boyfriend kakimir
2018-02-23T23:33:59 < kakimir> hmm..
2018-02-23T23:34:01 < upgrdman> butt buddies
2018-02-23T23:34:52 < kakimir> I didn't ask you in that sense.. afaik
2018-02-23T23:35:30 < Steffanx> :P
2018-02-23T23:37:20 < Ultrasauce> back off he's mine
2018-02-23T23:37:39 < Steffanx> ok ok.
2018-02-23T23:38:16 < upgrdman> ##prideParade
2018-02-23T23:39:56 < kakimir> I hope sykemyke is not first time here
2018-02-23T23:42:40 < Steffanx> He is not. And he is a finnisher so he is used to weirdos
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2018-02-23T23:43:30 < kakimir> true
2018-02-23T23:43:47 < stvn> good morning kakimir
2018-02-23T23:43:54 < Steffanx> and stvn
2018-02-23T23:44:05 < stvn> stffn m8
2018-02-23T23:45:41 < Steffanx> lo
2018-02-23T23:48:31 < englishman> stvn: hi
2018-02-23T23:48:45 < stvn> hi!
2018-02-23T23:49:27 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/kwrBcKP.jpg
2018-02-23T23:49:40 < stvn> i think every single contact on my phone copped that last night
2018-02-23T23:51:02 < upgrdman> one of my coworkers wears eye protection whenver he solders
2018-02-23T23:51:11 < stvn> i do sometimes
2018-02-23T23:51:15 < Steffanx> copped: a slang term used in Australia to replace some negative verbs. Even the News uses it sometimes
2018-02-23T23:51:19 < upgrdman> soldering an 0805? -> eye protection.
2018-02-23T23:51:26 < stvn> oh
2018-02-23T23:51:41 < upgrdman> ya
2018-02-23T23:52:08 < upgrdman> he was also afraid that the flux burning off contains lead gas
2018-02-23T23:52:13 < stvn> ROFL
2018-02-23T23:52:33 < stvn> for a start does he use lead-free
2018-02-23T23:52:35 < upgrdman> luckily be believed me and our senior ee
2018-02-23T23:52:54 < upgrdman> stvn, we use 63/37 for some work, and sac305 for other work
2018-02-23T23:52:56 < Steffanx> the smell of lead-free is awful imho
2018-02-23T23:53:12 < stvn> haha 60-40 for life here
2018-02-23T23:53:23 < stvn> well for repair shit
2018-02-23T23:53:24 < Steffanx> i have, on a short term, more issues with lead-free than leaded solder.
2018-02-23T23:53:26 < upgrdman> why you no super-eutectic
2018-02-23T23:53:44 < stvn> sac 305 isn't
2018-02-23T23:53:45 < upgrdman> (srsly, y?)
2018-02-23T23:54:18 < stvn> well
2018-02-23T23:54:36 < stvn> it was there when i got here
2018-02-23T23:54:43 < Steffanx> Do you even remember how to use a solder iron after you uit the dj repair job?
2018-02-23T23:54:50 < stvn> yeah muscles
2018-02-23T23:54:54 < Steffanx> *quit
2018-02-23T23:54:58 < stvn> had to make some test leads the other day
2018-02-23T23:55:08 < stvn> for the ATE
2018-02-23T23:55:30 < upgrdman> glorious rack of ATE or just some shit stacked on a workbench?
2018-02-23T23:55:57 < stvn> is in a 19" rack fwiw
2018-02-23T23:56:07 < upgrdman> yay
2018-02-23T23:56:27 < stvn> https://www.ap.com
2018-02-23T23:57:18 < stvn> that kinda stuff
2018-02-23T23:57:44 < upgrdman> -121dB
2018-02-23T23:57:54 < upgrdman> how many bits is dat
2018-02-23T23:58:29 < upgrdman> 3db == 1 bit, right?
2018-02-23T23:58:50 < upgrdman> so ~40 bits
2018-02-23T23:59:07 < stvn> hmmm
2018-02-23T23:59:19 < stvn> honestly forgot the 'rule of thumb'
2018-02-23T23:59:47 < stvn> only using the analogue bits on it too
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2018-02-24T00:13:42 < englishman> Steffanx: buy better rohs paste
2018-02-24T00:13:45 < englishman> mine smells awesome
2018-02-24T00:13:46 < englishman> like lavender
2018-02-24T00:15:27 < upgrdman> zephy?
2018-02-24T00:15:32 < upgrdman> zepher*
2018-02-24T00:15:41 < englishman> lol zeph
2018-02-24T00:15:42 < stvn> zephyr?
2018-02-24T00:15:50 < englishman> so GOOD it doesnt even need a TDS
2018-02-24T00:16:25 < stvn> englishman, what does the grey cat think about this?
2018-02-24T00:16:41 < englishman> he's pro, switched to rohs a long time ago
2018-02-24T00:16:58 < stvn> nice
2018-02-24T00:18:21 < stvn> any photos?
2018-02-24T00:18:34 < englishman> all his stuff is nda
2018-02-24T00:19:22 < stvn> ah
2018-02-24T00:55:47 < Steffanx> Sadly i dislike the smell of lavender englishman  :D
2018-02-24T00:56:29 < englishman> i dislike the smell of ARROW
2018-02-24T00:57:48 < Steffanx> Hehe
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2018-02-24T01:02:59 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeUOqwNGzBQ
2018-02-24T01:03:48 < stvn> these cunts were lit as fuck
2018-02-24T01:09:08 < zyp> how do you light a cunt?
2018-02-24T01:19:15 < stvn> yeah doesn't translate well now does it
2018-02-24T01:31:30 < jadew> first print: https://imgur.com/a/NF9EL
2018-02-24T01:31:53 < jadew> seems to work fine
2018-02-24T01:32:10 < stvn> yeah it looks fine
2018-02-24T01:32:26 < jadew> that was with a boguos calibration, but didn't seem to have much of an effect on the end result
2018-02-24T01:32:36 < stvn> fair enough
2018-02-24T01:32:40 < stvn> what will you print now
2018-02-24T01:33:04 < jadew> an iphone holder for my wife, cuz she got me a 3d printer
2018-02-24T01:33:21 < jadew> then I have a couple of enclosures to print
2018-02-24T01:33:41 < jadew> and most importantly, I have some stuff to CNC, but I can test it first with 3d prints
2018-02-24T01:35:33 < Ultrasauce> yeah that's pretty damn good looking for a first print
2018-02-24T01:36:00 < stvn> blow that whistle until it drives her mad
2018-02-24T01:36:04 < jadew> Ultrasauce, yeah, I thought the same, was expecting it to be a bit worse
2018-02-24T01:36:08 < jadew> lol stvn
2018-02-24T01:36:55 < jadew> I wasn't happy with the 3d printed parts the printer came with
2018-02-24T01:37:20 < jadew> lots of thin strings of plastic that I had to burn off with my hot air blower
2018-02-24T01:37:54 < jadew> you could see they were made in a rush
2018-02-24T01:38:19 < Ultrasauce> probably printed on a machine with a bowden extruder
2018-02-24T01:38:35 < jadew> what's that?
2018-02-24T01:38:50 < Ultrasauce> with a teflon tube between the extruder and the hot end
2018-02-24T01:39:15 < Ultrasauce> makes the print head lighter but retracting doesn't work as well, hence the strings
2018-02-24T01:39:50 < jadew> interesting
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2018-02-24T02:15:46 < upgrdman> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-lights-floating/japanese-scientists-invent-floating-firefly-light-idUSKCN1G7132
2018-02-24T02:16:09 < upgrdman> looks like japs "invented" magnetic levitiation + a fucking coil to extract a little power
2018-02-24T02:16:49 < jadew> the video says ultrasonic, but yeah, looks magnetic
2018-02-24T02:17:04 < upgrdman> prolly just f > 20kHz
2018-02-24T02:18:05 < jadew> ffs... the included video is 11 min long and most of it is unrelated
2018-02-24T02:25:58 < jadew> god... this web 2.0 loading-on-scroll trash is annyoing as hell
2018-02-24T02:26:38 < jadew> I scroll up to get to the menu and new items appear at the top and push the page down
2018-02-24T02:26:48 < jadew> thingieverse does that
2018-02-24T02:30:51 < Lux> upgrdman: reminds me of that stuff: https://www.electronicproducts.com/news/magnetic_levitation_wireless_power_transfer_floating_light_bulb.aspx
2018-02-24T02:31:04 < Lux> done 2012
2018-02-24T02:31:26 < upgrdman> nice
2018-02-24T02:31:58 < jadew> that does look nice
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2018-02-24T02:38:53 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zmYkEsc5bw
2018-02-24T02:38:56 < Laurenceb_> oh lee shit
2018-02-24T02:39:03 < Laurenceb_> EEVBlog is alt-right
2018-02-24T02:39:11 < stvn> lolwut
2018-02-24T02:39:16 < Laurenceb_> Dave did Trump
2018-02-24T02:39:18 < Laurenceb_> 40min +
2018-02-24T02:39:48 < stvn> wtf am i looking at?
2018-02-24T02:40:29 < Laurenceb_> I dunno I'm just reading reddity dramaz
2018-02-24T02:40:42 < Laurenceb_> apparently there is lulz somewhere in that clusterfuck
2018-02-24T02:41:25 < stvn> okay
2018-02-24T02:41:47 < stvn> wouldn't dig through over an hour of his fucking voice for any amount of money
2018-02-24T02:47:59 < jadew> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2751375
2018-02-24T02:50:44 < BrainDamage> if i had a printer I'd print a douzen and leave few near the parking spot
2018-02-24T02:57:28 < jadew> so far, this got me very exicted: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2637487
2018-02-24T03:17:40 < jadew> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2796358
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2018-02-24T04:13:02 < dongs> nice blog
2018-02-24T04:16:21 < Laurenceb_> oh its for free trolleys
2018-02-24T04:16:39 < Laurenceb_> I was imagining a dildo attachment or something
2018-02-24T04:16:46 < Laurenceb_> this being the internet
2018-02-24T04:16:58 < stvn> what is the internet
2018-02-24T04:17:01 < stvn> what really is it!
2018-02-24T04:20:52 < upgrdman> LOL   https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/7zoi04/weight_lifter_loses_all_trust_in_spotter/
2018-02-24T04:38:51 < stvn> can't do it son
2018-02-24T04:39:24 < stvn> visiting reddit kills a million brain cells
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2018-02-24T04:56:59 < englishman> blog jones cannot solder for shit
2018-02-24T04:58:38 < dongs> is that surprising
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2018-02-24T05:24:07 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/vl1pnqqiz1i01.gif
2018-02-24T05:24:19 < dongs> so fucking old
2018-02-24T05:24:27 < dongs> i mean ive seen the original jewtube
2018-02-24T05:24:30 < dongs> like 5 years ago
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2018-02-24T05:24:36 < dongs> and it was old back then
2018-02-24T05:25:14 < dongs> in 2018 you need to have rageberrypi wiht csi camera doing image recognition and launching it with precision
2018-02-24T05:25:30 < dongs> not some faggot behind glass pulling a string
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2018-02-24T05:36:38 < upgrdman> https://i.redd.it/iigilfhnjzh01.jpg
2018-02-24T05:37:15 < upgrdman> nice choice of words
2018-02-24T05:39:53 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/user/l0de/live lrh is on
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2018-02-24T09:52:44 < englishman> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/23/dropbox-ipo-form-s-1-prospectus-filing-full-text.html
2018-02-24T09:54:06 < englishman> 1.1b revenue
2018-02-24T09:54:49 < englishman> crazy to see them growing with so many alternatives out there now
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2018-02-24T10:56:51 < Steffanx> But still a net loss englishman. How can such company survive?
2018-02-24T11:06:21 < Thorn> no company can survive if it can't buy stm8
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2018-02-24T11:08:49 < Steffanx> -_-
2018-02-24T11:09:23 < Steffanx> Is there a shortage Thorn ?
2018-02-24T11:10:35 < Thorn> I have a theory that stm8s003 has disappeared and they're only selling 103 now, that's why all the price changes
2018-02-24T11:11:23 < Steffanx> Wut?
2018-02-24T11:12:35 < Thorn> I mean China sellers of course
2018-02-24T11:15:51 < Steffanx> Oh then  not sure i mind, Thorn
2018-02-24T11:19:00 < Steffanx> Oh the major suppliers seem to have a low or no stock as well
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2018-02-24T14:10:51 < karlp> I think jadew either has the best first print in the history of 3d printing, or https://imgur.com/r/gifs/4W6a7sg
2018-02-24T14:32:27 < dongs> https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20180223/p2a/00m/0na/019000c
2018-02-24T14:49:27 < kakimir> https://i.imgur.com/GzwMeIl.gifv fuck you bird.. mah food
2018-02-24T14:50:06 < kakimir> little one has good motorical skills and firm grip
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2018-02-24T15:55:56 < Tectu> people
2018-02-24T15:55:58 < Tectu> I have arrived
2018-02-24T15:56:01 < Tectu> to come and talk to you
2018-02-24T15:56:07 < Tectu> tell me about all your worries
2018-02-24T15:56:17 < Tectu> and Rob325 will care
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2018-02-24T16:34:42 < Tectu> is the party outside today?
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2018-02-24T16:54:58 < perole> dongs: got a 3d/stop for the 3010 inductor you use?
2018-02-24T16:55:01 < perole> setp
2018-02-24T16:55:33 < perole> think it was this one? http://ds.yuden.co.jp/TYCOMPAS/or/detail.do?productNo=NR3010T2R2M&dataUnit=M
2018-02-24T17:06:50 < dongs> youc na use that one yae
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2018-02-24T17:23:44 < Steffanx> Does dongs has a sharable mechinical drawing of the DisplayPort adapters?
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2018-02-24T17:29:22 < dongs> i have a step of minidp version
2018-02-24T17:30:12 < Steffanx> and that is semi-freely available?
2018-02-24T17:30:40 < dongs> oh thats waht you got too
2018-02-24T17:30:46 < Steffanx> yes :)
2018-02-24T17:31:50 < Steffanx> the thingiverse 3d printed case/thingy is ok, but .. i want something else
2018-02-24T17:32:01 < Steffanx> ty
2018-02-24T17:32:30 < englishman> Tectu: welcome
2018-02-24T17:32:55 < englishman> crazy swissers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQCUIpbSHlc
2018-02-24T17:34:09 < Tectu> hmm
2018-02-24T17:34:14 < Tectu> just went to the shooting range two days ago
2018-02-24T17:34:16 < Tectu> http://paste.ugfx.io/sores/99d72c7fc3e2/8d442979a2d2.jpg
2018-02-24T17:34:19 < Steffanx> Crazy and swissers .. isnt that the same thing?
2018-02-24T17:34:23 < Tectu> that is how to swiss
2018-02-24T17:35:39 < englishman> cool tektu
2018-02-24T17:36:14 < Tectu> I guess that's how canakus hunt squirrels
2018-02-24T17:36:40 < englishman> the most dangerous game
2018-02-24T17:38:11 < perole> englishman: you got the neoden4?
2018-02-24T17:38:19 < englishman> nope, a competitor
2018-02-24T17:38:26 < englishman> you looking at geting one?
2018-02-24T17:38:40 < perole> not realistically, just daydreaming about the future
2018-02-24T17:38:47 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A92rK6-p7bI
2018-02-24T17:38:49 < perole> anyho - read that 0402 could be problematic
2018-02-24T17:39:02 < englishman> on mine it's pretty reliable now
2018-02-24T17:39:06 < perole> or 'doable', but for reliable operation use 0603
2018-02-24T17:39:16 < englishman> neoden4 didn't have real feeders which was a big nope for me
2018-02-24T17:39:38 < englishman> 0603 is certainly *much* more reliable but all my projects are 0402 so meh
2018-02-24T17:39:55 < dongs> pal has neoden
2018-02-24T17:39:57 < dongs> it can fuck right off
2018-02-24T17:40:07 < englishman> haha
2018-02-24T17:40:14 < englishman> you seemed to like it way back when
2018-02-24T17:40:41 < Steffanx> such gun violence Tectu. -_-
2018-02-24T17:41:13 < Tectu> ?
2018-02-24T17:41:36 < englishman> what is it Tectu ? nfm doesnt have any 308 on their site
2018-02-24T17:41:53 < englishman> oh it is b&t?
2018-02-24T17:42:00 < Tectu> englishman, it's a nemo
2018-02-24T17:42:02 < englishman> i guess your company is doing REALLY well
2018-02-24T17:42:10 < Tectu> englishman, with swiss scope
2018-02-24T17:42:24 < englishman> cool
2018-02-24T17:43:05 < Tectu> englishman, http://paste.ugfx.io/sores/99d72c7fc3e2/4b653da0c7e2.jpg
2018-02-24T17:43:30 < englishman> i will take the fal plz
2018-02-24T17:44:20 < Steffanx> that 's Tectu's or shooting range owned?
2018-02-24T17:44:26 < Tectu> englishman, :p
2018-02-24T17:44:30 < englishman> i see you also have deadly squirrels
2018-02-24T17:44:36 < Tectu> englishman, very
2018-02-24T17:44:48 < Tectu> Steffanx, private, not shooting range material
2018-02-24T17:45:04 < Steffanx> I no longer trust Tectu
2018-02-24T17:45:06 < Tectu> not mine though - friend of mine puts all of his money into guns
2018-02-24T17:45:08 < Tectu> huh?
2018-02-24T17:45:15 < Steffanx> ooh, ok
2018-02-24T17:45:27 < Tectu> tectu doesn't waste money
2018-02-24T17:45:32 < Steffanx> You know guns are a big no-go in this country right? :P
2018-02-24T17:45:33 < Tectu> that guy has guns that cost 20k (not on the pic)
2018-02-24T17:45:39 < Tectu> nah
2018-02-24T17:45:50 < Steffanx> I've never even touched one except for this pudding canon i was burn with :P
2018-02-24T17:45:55 < Tectu> that nemo with scope is about 10k
2018-02-24T17:46:12 < Tectu> tectu does not money that much
2018-02-24T17:46:24 < Tectu> after all, you can't do anything with those other than hanging them on the wall and going to the shooting range once in a while
2018-02-24T17:46:27 < Tectu> we're not canukistan
2018-02-24T17:46:34 < Steffanx> *born
2018-02-24T17:47:40 < englishman> it would make a beautiful wall
2018-02-24T17:48:08 < englishman> there was an MG34 with a tripod for sale here last week. i could not put that on the wall. but i could hunt squirrel with it
2018-02-24T17:48:28 < englishman> the tripod had a little seat for user comfort
2018-02-24T17:48:38 < Tectu> weapon regulations in swissland are too strict for crap like that
2018-02-24T17:49:46 < qyx> wtf industrial alkaline D cells are much more cost efficient than any other
2018-02-24T17:49:54 < qyx> like lithium, lisocl2 or whatever
2018-02-24T17:52:01 < englishman> per what unit? kWh?
2018-02-24T17:52:41 < qyx> yes
2018-02-24T17:52:53 < englishman> i can see that
2018-02-24T17:53:38 < Steffanx> did the printer burn your house down jadew?
2018-02-24T17:54:06 < dongs> no his wife kicked him out
2018-02-24T17:54:08 < dongs> for buying useless shit
2018-02-24T17:54:45 < aandrew> lol
2018-02-24T17:55:13 < dongs> has judew  heard 3dprintersex.mp3
2018-02-24T17:55:16 < Steffanx> Did i miss this or wasnt it posted here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXB4U_xjWg . Total ##stm32-ware.
2018-02-24T17:55:44 < dongs> old as shit
2018-02-24T17:56:20 < Steffanx> I dont keep my shit that long, but yeah it's old.
2018-02-24T17:56:49 < dongs> jadew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buEl7Owjmgg
2018-02-24T17:57:39 < Steffanx> Talking about shit ^
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2018-02-24T18:01:49 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cd5JcPKi14
2018-02-24T18:06:28 < aandrew> attn dongs, another missed opportunity: https://www.shadecraft.com/
2018-02-24T18:07:16 < branjb> can anyone tell what those white 3 prong connectors are from the picture?  http://www.panucatt.com/azteeg_X5_GT_reprap_3d_printer_controller_p/ax5gt.htm
2018-02-24T18:10:27 < aandrew> those look like regular old 0.100" headers with a key
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2018-02-24T18:11:45 < branjb> hmm
2018-02-24T18:11:52 < branjb> I had some jst connectors but they don't fit
2018-02-24T18:12:03 < branjb> you are right they are .1"
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2018-02-24T18:24:45 < Rob235> woo, printer starting to work great
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2018-02-24T19:02:57 < englishman> dongs you sick fuck https://gfycat.com/HappyLavishHeterodontosaurus
2018-02-24T19:03:43 < kakimir> hahha :D
2018-02-24T19:04:15 < kakimir> smart boi
2018-02-24T19:06:15 < Steffanx>  Lol
2018-02-24T19:13:27 < Laurenceb_> my sides
2018-02-24T19:13:37  * Laurenceb_ has 100 audio channels working with audacity
2018-02-24T19:13:54 < Laurenceb_> export each channel as a numbered wav
2018-02-24T19:14:09 < kakimir> you do science with it?
2018-02-24T19:14:20 < qyx> do you listen much?
2018-02-24T19:14:21 < kakimir> what do you do in audacity anyways?
2018-02-24T19:14:24 < Laurenceb_> then I wrote a script to merge 100 mono wav channels to one 100 channel file
2018-02-24T19:14:26 < kakimir> filter shiet?
2018-02-24T19:14:32 < kakimir> oh
2018-02-24T19:14:38 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: datalogging gui
2018-02-24T19:14:41 < Laurenceb_> for muh sensors
2018-02-24T19:14:42 < kakimir> pro guru
2018-02-24T19:14:45 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2018-02-24T19:14:58 < kakimir> what are you loggin now?
2018-02-24T19:15:34 < Laurenceb_> 15 memes sensors and 2 audio channels
2018-02-24T19:15:57 < kakimir> whta are you doing?
2018-02-24T19:16:06 < kakimir> and is you carreer based on logging stuff?
2018-02-24T19:16:08 < kakimir> your
2018-02-24T19:16:11 < Laurenceb_> yes
2018-02-24T19:16:19 < Laurenceb_> I have 4 megabux to log... something
2018-02-24T19:16:38 < kakimir> I see the path of logging from 2012 2013 to today
2018-02-24T19:16:57 < kakimir> you logged something once and then money keep comming
2018-02-24T19:17:05 < Laurenceb_> yeah
2018-02-24T19:17:07 < kakimir> they need your loggings
2018-02-24T19:17:22 < Laurenceb_> custom dataloggers is easy money
2018-02-24T19:18:05 < kakimir> yes
2018-02-24T19:18:12 < qyx> I hope so
2018-02-24T19:18:14 < qyx> making some dataloggers
2018-02-24T19:18:33 < qyx> the future is in data logging
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2018-02-24T20:04:33 < kakimir> hello
2018-02-24T20:05:41 < Steffanx> welcome back superbia
2018-02-24T20:05:55 < kakimir> good
2018-02-24T20:10:17 < Steffanx> Im ok, and you mr superbia?
2018-02-24T20:13:59 < kakimir> because what Steffanx said yesterday?
2018-02-24T20:15:34 < kakimir> perkele
2018-02-24T20:17:16 < Steffanx> heh, nim as in nim-lang.org superbia?
2018-02-24T20:17:19 < Steffanx> never heard of that
2018-02-24T20:18:21 < Steffanx> 1193 issues. HAH
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2018-02-24T20:22:14 < Steffanx> What you use it for?
2018-02-24T20:22:52 < Rickta59> * always equated the word nimrod with something derogatory as in ... he is a real nimrod
2018-02-24T20:23:57 < qyx> sounds like niemand
2018-02-24T20:24:42 < Steffanx> and that would translate to "nobody" ( when you translate it from dutch to english )
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2018-02-24T20:31:59 < Steffanx> Where i work one would never use such unkown/obscure language :P
2018-02-24T20:33:02 < Steffanx> but they are conservative as hell.
2018-02-24T20:33:13 < Steffanx> Oh, i dont mind. If it works for you :)
2018-02-24T20:34:21 < Steffanx> on os x?
2018-02-24T20:36:21 < Steffanx> aha
2018-02-24T20:36:53 < Steffanx> Aha, ok.
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2018-02-24T21:09:03 < PaulFertser> I had some exposure to C# lately. I am honestly surprised by the unsafety of the language. References and "out" arguments that are as good as raw C pointers, seriously? And one can easily make the runtime leak memory, really?
2018-02-24T21:09:33 < branjb> yeah it'll be sweet when someone ports c# to stm32
2018-02-24T21:11:42 < BrainDamage> isn't it already?
2018-02-24T21:12:53 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Micro_Framework
2018-02-24T21:13:07 < PaulFertser> How is it any better than C++? Where you have unique_ptr and share_ptr and RAII and you do not leak memory even without any garbage collector, and where you can't get runtime NullReferenceException?!
2018-02-24T21:20:06 < jpa-> PaulFertser: uh, in what way are C# references as dangerous as c pointers?
2018-02-24T21:20:37 < jpa-> it's pretty difficult to create broken reference in C# if not using unsafe {} and you rarely need to use that
2018-02-24T21:21:21 < jpa-> if you refer to null reference exception, that's a safe way to get out of unsafe situation
2018-02-24T21:21:38 < jpa-> there is no language that will eliminate all programming errors, and C++ definitely is not one
2018-02-24T21:23:32 < jpa-> the "to null or not to null" debate is of course an unsolved one, e.g. rust takes the "not to null" side and we'll see what comes out of it
2018-02-24T21:23:33 < PaulFertser> jpa-: you can just assign null and then pass it to a function as a reference and if it tries dereferencing, it's a runtime exception. With C++ you use make_unique and pass it and it's always safe.
2018-02-24T21:23:59 < jpa-> PaulFertser: err, you can have null unique_ptr in C++ also?
2018-02-24T21:25:29 < jpa-> http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/memory/unique_ptr/operator*   and it doesn't even throw an exception, it's full blown "undefined behaviour"
2018-02-24T21:26:14 < jpa-> (e.g. on STM32 where 0x0000000 has valid pointer values, it can result in very fun behaviour)
2018-02-24T21:26:15 < PaulFertser> You can, but I do not think the best practices guides recommend doing that.
2018-02-24T21:26:36 < jpa-> eh, best practice doesn't recommend making programming errors? :D
2018-02-24T21:26:46 < PaulFertser> C++ is not that kind of language that enforces rules like that. But I kinda expected it from high-level managed language.
2018-02-24T21:27:09 < qyx> duck type
2018-02-24T21:27:21 < jpa-> yes, C# enforces that memory safety guarantees are not broken in that situation, and you can safely handle the null reference exception at any level of the call chain
2018-02-24T21:28:00 < PaulFertser> Can but not must.
2018-02-24T21:28:13 < jpa-> passing null reference in C# to a function that expects non-null is similar to passing 0 to a division operation
2018-02-24T21:29:00 < PaulFertser> I think in a modern language rules like that must be enforced compile-time. So that you just can't get into a situation like that.
2018-02-24T21:29:19 < jpa-> that's not possible in the general case
2018-02-24T21:29:39 < jpa-> but if you want a language that will enforce that when possible and refuse programs where it is not possible, you want rust
2018-02-24T21:29:53 < PaulFertser> Of course I want rust :)
2018-02-24T21:30:11 < jpa-> so what are you doing with C# then? C# is a language for people who want to get things done :P
2018-02-24T21:30:17 < zyp> haha
2018-02-24T21:31:26 < jpa-> having compiler throw you "sorry i couldn't prove your program will always handle references perfectly" is not very useful for getting things done, when you clients really care if your program gives the correct results
2018-02-24T21:31:30 < PaulFertser> There's an existing asp.net application that needs to work reliably on mono...
2018-02-24T21:31:51 < jpa-> throwing errors at compile time is great, throwing errors are runtime is ok, messing up everything C++ style is terrible
2018-02-24T21:31:58 < zyp> I don't think any language is safe from memory leaks, short of languages without any sort of heap or pool based dynamic allocation
2018-02-24T21:32:25 < jpa-> yeah, for practical definitions of memory leak atleast
2018-02-24T21:33:12 < jpa-> some people like to redefine it as "memory still reachable through some structure is not leaked" or "memory that is in recursion stack is not leaked"
2018-02-24T21:33:30 < zyp> cyclic references will keep your refcounted objects alive even after you've removed all outside references, but you can't reach them from anywhere
2018-02-24T21:33:36 < zyp> that's a memory leak in my book
2018-02-24T21:34:01 < jpa-> only refcounting falls to cyclic references, modern GC doesn't
2018-02-24T21:34:15 < zyp> also true
2018-02-24T21:34:46 < zyp> but it's not the only fuckup that will prevent your fancy memory management from leaking
2018-02-24T21:35:19 < jpa-> i've found that the easiest way to have "memleaks" in C# is wrapping external allocations and not telling the GC that your 8 byte object actually has a pointer to 8MB block of memory - and then it considers "this object is not worth it to reclaim yet, it is only 8 bytes"
2018-02-24T21:35:23 < PaulFertser> If mono developers manage to make all asp.net solutions leaky... http://forcedtoadmin.blogspot.nl/2013/11/servicestack-performance-in-mono-p2.html#stat well, I would blame mono developers but pointing fingers at the language itself would be kinda fair too.
2018-02-24T21:36:02 < zyp> jpa-, I wouldn't call that leaks
2018-02-24T21:36:08 < jpa-> what language would prevent that but not prevent the kind of user base that C# has managed to build? :P
2018-02-24T21:36:48 < jpa-> zyp: from practical point of view it seems like one - memory disappears somewhere even though it is not being used for any meaningful purpose
2018-02-24T21:37:47 < zyp> yes, but pending reclaim means it'll eventually be reclaimed, memory consumption wouldn't keep growing unbounded until your program hits the OOM killer
2018-02-24T21:37:51 < jpa-> (if it is slow, it will get reclaimed in a minute or so anyway - but doing that for every fullhd video frame was not a good idea :)
2018-02-24T21:38:24 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-24T21:38:38 < zyp> I actually doesn't have much experience debugging memory leaks
2018-02-24T21:38:56 < zyp> I'm not sure if it's because I don't make them, or just because they don't leak fast enough to matter :p
2018-02-24T21:39:14 < jpa-> memory leaks under GC are actually quite a different beast than memleaks in new/delete system
2018-02-24T21:40:02 < jpa-> because in new/delete 99% of memleaks are just something that you forgot to delete; whereas in GC based systems you only get the remaining 1% weird cases
2018-02-24T21:40:11 < zyp> GCs are largely magic to me
2018-02-24T21:40:27 < PaulFertser> But there's basically no new/delete in modern C++, is there?
2018-02-24T21:40:27 < zyp> I know what they do, but not how
2018-02-24T21:40:38 < zyp> RAII and refcounting makes a lot more sense to me :)
2018-02-24T21:40:48 < zyp> PaulFertser, not explicitly, no
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2018-02-24T21:41:25 < BrainDamage> the annoying shit about GC is lack of determinism in performance
2018-02-24T21:41:27 < zyp> also, speaking of memory safety
2018-02-24T21:41:36 < zyp> I've made python segfault several times
2018-02-24T21:41:56 < jpa-> dynamic memory is already nondeterministic, GC just makes it a bit worse
2018-02-24T21:42:01 < zyp> (usually through the ctypes module)
2018-02-24T21:42:58 < jpa-> it's always fun to argue about things like "modern C++" or "pure python code"; but in reality most big codebases have a bunch of code from different eras and languages
2018-02-24T21:43:09 < jpa-> C# does a fairly good job of containing even stupid C code
2018-02-24T21:43:15 < zyp> hehe
2018-02-24T21:43:52 < jpa-> (by wrapping it in stack guards etc, most of the time it even manages to throw a catchable "invalid memory access" exception on the C# side
2018-02-24T21:44:07 < PaulFertser> Automatic C variables and extra function arguments on stack are already nondeterministic, that's why SDCC does the right thing by default and allocates all of them statically.
2018-02-24T21:45:30 < jpa-> nope, those are deterministic in performance
2018-02-24T21:46:08 < jpa-> and without recursion, even stack space usage is deterministic and easy to calculate statically
2018-02-24T21:46:14 < PaulFertser> In performance, yes.
2018-02-24T21:46:34 < jpa-> many non-gcc embedded compilers automatically warn at compile time if you exceed your stack
2018-02-24T21:46:35 < zyp> only time stack is nondeterministic is when you're on a platform with MMU and your stack grows out of bounds and gets dynamically extended
2018-02-24T21:47:18 < zyp> jpa-, unless you have dynamic arrays on stack
2018-02-24T21:47:42 < zyp> and call graph is plain and simple
2018-02-24T21:48:10 < zyp> once you add indirect calls, call graph turns into a mess to follow
2018-02-24T21:50:50 < zyp> I did some experiments with that 6-7 years ago
2018-02-24T21:51:00 < zyp> ref: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/j4TBZ.png
2018-02-24T21:53:14 < zyp> main() will at the deepest use 136B, while the other thread will use 56B, but how big does the interrupt stack need to be?
2018-02-24T22:04:05 < karlp> qyx: I think the future is in actually interpreting the logs, but yeah, you need dataloggers first :)
2018-02-24T22:04:37 < qyx> reminds me the hype about data marketplaces
2018-02-24T22:04:48 < qyx> the iota has gone silent somehow
2018-02-24T22:04:55 < qyx> also their demo doesn't wrok anymore
2018-02-24T22:12:08 < perole> can someone school me on small smd inductor packages/part#?
2018-02-24T22:12:36 < perole> a lot of them have CDxxx names
2018-02-24T22:13:45 < karlp> what's the real question?
2018-02-24T22:15:02 < perole> is there any industry standard for them?
2018-02-24T22:15:19 < perole> or defacto standard?
2018-02-24T22:15:36 < perole> right now, looking for 2.2uh for small switcher
2018-02-24T22:19:12 < qyx> gram some 3225 wirewound or 0805 chip inductor
2018-02-24T22:19:14 < qyx> grab
2018-02-24T22:19:26 < qyx> depends on the parameters
2018-02-24T22:19:31 < aandrew> I'm partial of the 4x4mm package ones
2018-02-24T22:19:48 < qyx> I usually use 3225 because of their good availability
2018-02-24T22:19:55 < qyx> also IHLP series for example
2018-02-24T22:20:02 < qyx> ihlp2525, 4040, etc.
2018-02-24T22:20:15 < qyx> xal series is also good but $$$
2018-02-24T22:20:38 < qyx> also they have quite different footprint so once you make a pcb with their footprint it is hard to fit some alternatives
2018-02-24T22:21:07 < qyx> they are nice cubes
2018-02-24T22:21:42 < qyx> and cheap stores also have DR74, DR125, etc
2018-02-24T22:21:57 < qyx> those are so generic and cheap that even eagle has footprints for them :X
2018-02-24T22:23:21 < qyx> on the 3225 footprint you can also fit 1206 or 0805 and #yolo
2018-02-24T22:23:46 < qyx> (3225 is metric, 1206/0805 imperial)
2018-02-24T22:23:57 < qyx> such mess
2018-02-24T22:24:33 < qyx> eof.
2018-02-24T22:24:50 < karlp> enter . by itself on a new line to finish please
2018-02-24T22:25:48 < aandrew> ihlp2525 eh
2018-02-24T22:26:23 < aandrew> oh those are even bigger
2018-02-24T22:26:30 < aandrew> 6.86x6.47mm
2018-02-24T22:26:56 < qyx> there are smaller but I don't remember the exact numbers
2018-02-24T22:27:08 < aandrew> I just looked them up on digikey
2018-02-24T22:28:35 < qyx> do you know such things https://static1.tme.eu//products_pics/7/0/f/70f8a7757b6c9cb4eba4a85e610a77e9/466490.jpg
2018-02-24T22:28:51 < qyx> but I only need the cap, not the button itself
2018-02-24T22:30:29 < aandrew> I don't
2018-02-24T22:31:17 < karlp> surlyh going to be easier to buy the whole thing
2018-02-24T22:32:11 < qyx> mhm theres a pcb underneath the panel
2018-02-24T22:32:18 < qyx> I'll need to make a hole in it
2018-02-24T22:34:29 < aandrew> TDK VLS4012 is what I tend to use
2018-02-24T22:37:47 < jadew> karlp, that really was the first print, I just chose one of the sample objects on the SD card
2018-02-24T22:38:32 < jadew> I just printed something else (my second print) and it didn't came out that great, but I think it could have been a good print too, if the gcode was not generated like it was
2018-02-24T22:38:55 < jadew> the issue on this second print was that the filling of a side started from the middle of the surface, rather than from the side
2018-02-24T22:39:39 < jadew> so there's a visible delineation at the start point (in the middle of the surface)
2018-02-24T22:39:52 < jadew> other than that, the prints seem to be fine
2018-02-24T22:42:05 < jadew> Thorn, that's a nice VNA
2018-02-24T22:42:17 < aandrew> lol toothpaste economy sublid
2018-02-24T22:42:30 < aandrew> maybe just put less on the brush by squeezing less out
2018-02-24T22:42:37 < jadew> aandrew, found that hilareous too
2018-02-24T22:42:53 < aandrew> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2751375 is still better
2018-02-24T22:43:07 < aandrew> damn that's a pretty good first print
2018-02-24T22:44:26 < Steffanx> https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=Better+Egg+Cup+Sculpture&sa=&dwh=995a91ce95b91fe might be nice too.
2018-02-24T22:44:38 < jadew> it had a bit of gunk on the first layer, because I didn't know to clean the nozzle first, so whatever was there got into that layer, but it got burried and it wasn't an issue
2018-02-24T22:49:30 < Steffanx> how long did that first print take jadew?
2018-02-24T22:49:47 < jadew> the gcode file had 20m in its name, but it took close to 30
2018-02-24T22:49:52 < jadew> 27 or so
2018-02-24T22:50:44 < jadew> I don't mind the print speed, seems reasonable
2018-02-24T22:50:57 < Steffanx> not yet
2018-02-24T22:51:02 < jadew> heh
2018-02-24T22:51:04 < Steffanx> you will when its going to > 10 hours
2018-02-24T22:51:09 < Steffanx> and then fails half way
2018-02-24T22:51:15 < jadew> hah
2018-02-24T22:51:30 < jadew> what are the failure modes?
2018-02-24T22:52:49 < jadew> is there some website/resource of mechanical tricks?
2018-02-24T22:53:05 < jadew> locking mechanism and things like that
2018-02-24T22:56:06 < Steffanx> oh i dont know. i mainly read some dutch website.
2018-02-24T22:56:11 < Steffanx>  *forum
2018-02-24T22:56:21 < Steffanx> and facebook
2018-02-24T22:56:29 < jadew> really?
2018-02-24T22:56:44 < jadew> is there a facebook group dedicated to this?
2018-02-24T22:57:04 < Steffanx> nah there is one dedicated to the cr-10
2018-02-24T23:00:58 < Steffanx> mr superbia: A chinese, but pretty ok, 3d printer
2018-02-24T23:02:43 < jadew> were they yellow?
2018-02-24T23:03:29 < jadew> skin color joke
2018-02-24T23:03:29 < Lux> they probably were chinese and rebranded
2018-02-24T23:03:48 < jadew> yeah, I think that's what a lot of companies are doing
2018-02-24T23:04:00 < jadew> the CR-10 doesn't look bad really
2018-02-24T23:04:05 < Steffanx> https://all3dp.com/app/uploads/2017/12/creality3d-cr-10-with-badge.jpg its not that bad imho superbia. And it's pretty sturdy
2018-02-24T23:05:20 < Steffanx> be aware to not make jokes like that to, jadew. Yesterday i told superbia i hate romanians and he left :P
2018-02-24T23:05:42 < Steffanx> And that was AFTER i told him it was a joke
2018-02-24T23:06:16 < jadew> superbia, you wouldn't outsource everything
2018-02-24T23:07:21 < Steffanx> i didnt respond to that at all.
2018-02-24T23:07:38 < jadew> upgrdman's addition made the joke much better tho
2018-02-24T23:08:01 < Laurenceb_> >hitting a Romanian grrl with a car
2018-02-24T23:08:10 < Laurenceb_> >not hitting on a Romanian grrl from Tinder
2018-02-24T23:08:29 < jadew> Laurenceb_, that's the best he can do
2018-02-24T23:08:38 < Laurenceb_> heh
2018-02-24T23:08:56 < Steffanx> And i even tried to avoid it... so it shows how much i did not want it
2018-02-24T23:09:16 < jadew> wait, that really happened?
2018-02-24T23:09:20 < jadew> you hit someone?
2018-02-24T23:09:41 < Steffanx> Yeah, she decided to cross the road when she wasnt supposed to. Nah, shit happens
2018-02-24T23:09:53 < jadew> I guess she was alright tho
2018-02-24T23:09:57 < Steffanx> yes
2018-02-24T23:10:16 < jadew> how do you know she was romanian?
2018-02-24T23:11:28 < Steffanx> it's what she claimed jadew ;)
2018-02-24T23:11:33 < Steffanx> I have no proof ofcourse
2018-02-24T23:11:40 < jadew> hold on a sec
2018-02-24T23:11:43 < jadew> was she a gypsie?
2018-02-24T23:11:51 < Steffanx> Gypsies dont work, do they?
2018-02-24T23:12:17 < jadew> most gypsies left here are working
2018-02-24T23:12:26 < Steffanx> im glad you knnow what i think superbia
2018-02-24T23:12:37 < jadew> but a about gypsies and car accidents - they run a scam where they throw themselves at your car
2018-02-24T23:12:48 < jadew> in order to get some money out of you
2018-02-24T23:13:20 < jadew> superbia, where's that?
2018-02-24T23:15:32 < jadew> I wonder how many are left in Romania
2018-02-24T23:17:57 < Laurenceb_> https://hackaday.com/2018/02/24/microchip-introduces-tiny-cheap-linux-modules/
2018-02-24T23:18:00 < Laurenceb_> lunix
2018-02-24T23:18:09 < Laurenceb_> cuz embedded lunix is a sane idea
2018-02-24T23:18:29 < Laurenceb_> everything can be awesome like beagleboneblack
2018-02-24T23:19:01 < Steffanx> i heard someone doing mems data over usb audio once. And storing it in mkv.
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2018-02-24T23:21:01 < Steffanx> It seems to be a 500MHz Cortex-A5, pretty boring
2018-02-24T23:21:06 < jadew> Laurenceb, there's nothing wrong with a linux module, but that stuff has very little RAM
2018-02-24T23:21:40 < Steffanx> Not going to pay 80-100$ for that module -_-
2018-02-24T23:21:48 < Steffanx> uhm, make that euro.
2018-02-24T23:22:09 < Steffanx> oh nevermind that's the entire development kit
2018-02-24T23:22:31 < jadew> what does SIP mean?
2018-02-24T23:22:48 < zyp> Steffanx, so just putting sama5 on a module?
2018-02-24T23:23:00 < zyp> IIRC sama5 is 500MHz A5
2018-02-24T23:23:48 < Steffanx> nah im failing. I did an octopart search, but it gave me everything but that module. The dev kit seems to be something else
2018-02-24T23:24:15 < Steffanx>  System in Package jadew. Like it says on the product page ;)
2018-02-24T23:24:31 < Steffanx> http://www.microchip.com/design-centers/32-bit-mpus/sip-and-som/system-in-package-(sip)
2018-02-24T23:24:53 < zyp> awesome
2018-02-24T23:25:02 < zyp> I've been wanting that
2018-02-24T23:25:21 < jadew> well, that's not bad
2018-02-24T23:25:47 < zyp> looks similar to the octavo parts, just cheaper
2018-02-24T23:25:48 < jadew> I thought the memory was part of the module
2018-02-24T23:26:27 < Steffanx> 0.8 mm ball pitch, you can even home solder that zyp :P or was that lcp you did 1mm?
2018-02-24T23:26:45 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-24T23:26:47 < Steffanx> *lpc
2018-02-24T23:26:55 < zyp> octavo is 1.27 or something, but also fairly huge
2018-02-24T23:27:16 < Steffanx> hi crt. Welcome
2018-02-24T23:27:44 < zyp> 0.8 should be fine though, I don't need to solder it myself, just don't want to pay through the nose for high spec board fab
2018-02-24T23:30:41 < zyp> the SoM looks nice too, maybe a bit large
2018-02-24T23:31:51 < zyp> «All of Microchip’s Linux development code for the SiP and SOM are mainlined in the Linux communities.»
2018-02-24T23:31:59 < zyp> should make it easy to work with
2018-02-24T23:32:16 < Steffanx> The schematics for the som are even freely available
2018-02-24T23:32:30 < Steffanx> + pcb + gerbers
2018-02-24T23:32:37 < zyp> put in the chip, power it, throw on qspi or emmc for code, done
2018-02-24T23:33:04 < zyp> not having to route the ram interface simplifies everything a lot
2018-02-24T23:33:53 < zyp> oh, and the SoM should be easy to fit in 2L designs
2018-02-24T23:36:17 < Steffanx> ìf only the pricing for the som would be available
2018-02-24T23:36:39 < zyp> the hackaday article says «the SIP starts at around $9, the SOM is available for $39 in 100-unit quantities»
2018-02-24T23:36:44 < Steffanx> oh yeah indeed.
2018-02-24T23:36:55 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-24T23:37:18 < zyp> the size is gonna be a problem
2018-02-24T23:37:25 < zyp> 40x38mm
2018-02-24T23:39:12 < englishman> $40 really?
2018-02-24T23:39:13 < zyp> I can fit that, but I'm not sure I could fit much else in addition to it
2018-02-24T23:39:21 < englishman> Artik price?
2018-02-24T23:39:30 < Steffanx> https://www.microchipdirect.com/product/ATSAMA5D27-SOM1?keywords=atsama5d27-som1 39$ it is indeed
2018-02-24T23:39:34 < englishman> Oh that's big
2018-02-24T23:39:56 < englishman> Temp Range: -40C to +85C
2018-02-24T23:40:01 < Steffanx> the operating temperature range is great
2018-02-24T23:40:05 < englishman> edisonnnnn
2018-02-24T23:40:07 < Steffanx> ^
2018-02-24T23:40:29 < Steffanx> 2 minds one thought
2018-02-24T23:40:43 < englishman> 500mhz tho
2018-02-24T23:40:49 < englishman> not a lot of punch for $40
2018-02-24T23:41:10 < englishman> good luck doing anything with pydongs
2018-02-24T23:41:10 < zyp> should be plenty
2018-02-24T23:41:18 < Lux> the sip package for 10usd with integrated ram might be worth it
2018-02-24T23:41:28 < zyp> totally
2018-02-24T23:41:39 < Lux> you can get better som modules for 40usd
2018-02-24T23:42:04 < englishman> yes in 0.8bga it's awesome
2018-02-24T23:42:09 < Lux> at least the atmel chip is fully supported mainline
2018-02-24T23:42:13 < englishman> just add sdcard or something
2018-02-24T23:42:15 < Lux> eh microchip now
2018-02-24T23:42:32 < Steffanx> The SOM is a nice 6-layer board. Not sure what such pcb costs.
2018-02-24T23:42:54 < englishman> in huge quantity, not too bad
2018-02-24T23:43:08 < zyp> 6L shouldn't be that much more expensive than 4L
2018-02-24T23:43:24 < zyp> it's the 2L -> 4L step that's the big step for low volume stuff
2018-02-24T23:44:32 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-24T23:44:57 < zyp> the 128M part is available in 0.75mm pitch bga196, the other parts are 0.8mm pitch bga289
2018-02-24T23:45:08 < zyp> and then there's also 0.4mm pitch bga256 listed in the datasheet
2018-02-24T23:46:36 < zyp> so, 14x14 and 17x17
2018-02-24T23:46:38 < Lux> actually som with that chip family have been around for a while: https://www.acmesystems.it/
2018-02-24T23:46:54 < Lux> got that arietta board lying around here
2018-02-24T23:47:08 < zyp> Lux, that's the old sama5 without builtin ram
2018-02-24T23:47:26 < Lux> sure, but on the module you don't really care
2018-02-24T23:47:35 < zyp> sure
2018-02-24T23:48:20 < zyp> but there's some value in a vendor module rather than a third party module too
2018-02-24T23:48:27 < zyp> wrt lifecycle
2018-02-24T23:48:49 < Lux> guess so
2018-02-24T23:49:07 < Lux> but i guess everything gets discontinued if it doesn't sell
2018-02-24T23:50:13 < zyp> 14x14mm package for the bga289, 11x11mm for the bga196
2018-02-24T23:51:09 < zyp> datasheet doesn't seem to have a graphical view of which pins are located where in the grid, just a list of all pins
2018-02-24T23:52:31 < zyp> englishman, datasheet lists an extended temp range part for -40..105 too
2018-02-24T23:52:52 < zyp> in case the standard -40..85 isn't enough
2018-02-24T23:54:16 < englishman> nice
2018-02-24T23:55:01 < englishman> did you know edison throttles at 35C
2018-02-24T23:55:05 < englishman> die temp
2018-02-24T23:55:12 < englishman> good luck finding that in any datasheet
2018-02-24T23:55:20 < zyp> whoa, there's 16 supply rails on this shit
2018-02-24T23:55:26 < englishman> took the brogrammers quite a while to find that out
2018-02-24T23:56:35 < Steffanx> Haha englishman
2018-02-24T23:57:02 < zyp> looks like all core rails are 1.2 and all IO rails can be 3.3, so at a glance it looks like it only needs two supplies
2018-02-24T23:57:44 < englishman> a power scheme to rival even sam3x
2018-02-24T23:59:24 < zyp> sequencing requirements seems to boil down to 3.3V required to be present before 1.2V
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2018-02-25T00:00:33 < zyp> in addition to this, there's a 2.5V supply required for writing fuses, but can be left unpowered otherwise
2018-02-25T00:03:08 < englishman> i have to admit $10 lunix is pretty interesting, in that size
2018-02-25T00:03:45 < Lux> there is also that allwinner v3s chip with integrated ram
2018-02-25T00:03:48 < qyx> are we going to do sama5 stm32 linux?
2018-02-25T00:03:59 < Lux> though lunix support definetly isn't that great with those
2018-02-25T00:04:25 < zyp> englishman, yeah, I'm tempted to drop one of these in in place of the edison in that design now
2018-02-25T00:04:26 < Lux> but it's <5usd and in qfn
2018-02-25T00:04:30 < englishman> yep
2018-02-25T00:04:44 < englishman> are they giving out lunix images
2018-02-25T00:04:50 < Lux> i mean tqfp
2018-02-25T00:04:51 < zyp> Lux, does the specs compare?
2018-02-25T00:04:58 < Lux> it's faster
2018-02-25T00:05:05 < englishman> secure boot pdf isnt available
2018-02-25T00:05:08 < Lux> has an a7 instead of a5
2018-02-25T00:05:16 < Lux> and 1ghz iirc
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2018-02-25T00:05:22 < zyp> Lux, got a reference?
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2018-02-25T00:05:33 < Lux> http://linux-sunxi.org/V3s
2018-02-25T00:05:44 < Lux> and there is that lichee pi zero project
2018-02-25T00:06:01 < zyp> «integrated 64MB DDR2 RAM»
2018-02-25T00:06:08 < Lux> https://github.com/Lichee-Pi
2018-02-25T00:06:08 < zyp> so it doesn't compare at all, really
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2018-02-25T00:06:17 < Lux> half the ram right
2018-02-25T00:06:36 < zyp> sama5d2 has parts with 1G
2018-02-25T00:06:40 < Lux> bit
2018-02-25T00:06:55 < Lux> so 128 meg
2018-02-25T00:06:58 < zyp> wait, fuck, did I misread
2018-02-25T00:07:14 < zyp> oh, haha
2018-02-25T00:07:15 < zyp> fuck that
2018-02-25T00:07:20 < Lux> marketing crap
2018-02-25T00:07:39 < zyp> no wonder the 128Mb part is targetted at RTOS then
2018-02-25T00:07:41 < Steffanx> Hehe. I did that too, first time i read it. Other pages it says bit
2018-02-25T00:07:57 < Steffanx> On other pages*
2018-02-25T00:08:00 < jadew> I misread too, but then read the comments
2018-02-25T00:08:10 < Lux> and there is also that: https://www.digikey.at/product-detail/de/octavo-systems-llc/OSD3358-512M-BAS/1676-1000-ND/6012564
2018-02-25T00:08:21 < zyp> seen octavo already
2018-02-25T00:08:23 < Lux> but old beaglebone stuff
2018-02-25T00:08:26 < zyp> it's cute but huge and expensive
2018-02-25T00:09:10 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-25T00:09:13 < Lux> yeah, the price went down a bit, but still too much
2018-02-25T00:09:17 < zyp> 128M makes it a lot less useful
2018-02-25T00:09:23 < Lux> <20usd would be fine
2018-02-25T00:09:56 < Lux> are there any other sip modules like that ?
2018-02-25T00:10:17 < zyp> octavo was the only one I knew about until today
2018-02-25T00:10:25 < Lux> so far i've only seen that allwinner, octavo and now microchip
2018-02-25T00:11:40 < zyp> that V3s looks a bit cute too, builtin ethernet phy
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2018-02-25T00:13:41 < zyp> apart from that, connectivity is pretty basic
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2018-02-25T00:49:48 < zyp> hmm, I was wrong, the SIP needs 1.8V for the SDRAM as well
2018-02-25T00:49:55 < zyp> so three supplies in total
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2018-02-25T01:09:10 < karlp> IMO the microchip sama5 som is just to fucking big, that's why I didn't even bother linking it here initially :)
2018-02-25T01:09:47 < karlp> there's guidance pricing on microchips' website if you guys looked, rather than just reading hackaday
2018-02-25T01:10:33 < zyp> not just guidance, you can buy even single quantity from microchipdirect
2018-02-25T01:10:59 < zyp> https://www.microchipdirect.com/product/ATSAMA5D27-SOM1 https://www.microchipdirect.com/product/ATSAMA5D27C-D1G
2018-02-25T01:11:26 < zyp> $17.34 @1 for the top specced one is not too bad
2018-02-25T01:11:45 < karlp> hehe, was thinking you guys were a bit excited given it's ram  :)
2018-02-25T01:11:50  * karlp giggles in the scrollback
2018-02-25T01:12:17 < zyp> fuck bits
2018-02-25T01:12:43 < karlp> ok, the singles weren't available a few days ago when they mailed it out, or at least, I didn't find it then
2018-02-25T01:14:31 < zyp> guidance pricing is less interesting, doesn't tend to be so accurate
2018-02-25T01:15:28 < upgrdman> :)  https://i.imgur.com/dUnP9MS.gifv
2018-02-25T01:16:55 < zyp> in norwegian, guidance price translates to «veiledende pris», which often gets called «villedende» (misleading/deceptive)
2018-02-25T01:20:56 < kakimir> Steffanx, movie recommend: Johnny Mnemonic
2018-02-25T01:21:04 < englishman> good movie
2018-02-25T01:21:05 < englishman> ice-t
2018-02-25T01:21:18 < englishman> 3d internet in 1993
2018-02-25T01:21:40 < kakimir> I clearly see where they got inspiration for the matrix
2018-02-25T01:23:22 < kakimir> cyber punk, low tech ghetto shiet, plug into brain etc.
2018-02-25T01:24:12 < kakimir> just fine polish it
2018-02-25T01:29:23 < Steffanx> Too much Neo in there kakimir
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2018-02-25T01:38:45 < zyp> kakimir, hmm, I think I've read the book
2018-02-25T01:39:10 < kakimir> #ubuntu is aids anyways superbia ?
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2018-02-25T01:44:39 < Rob235> my printer is finally working
2018-02-25T01:47:03 < Steffanx> 👯
2018-02-25T01:50:31 < tomeaton17> window manager still using 90% gpu after clearing computer :/
2018-02-25T01:52:59 < tomeaton17> this is on windows 10 lol
2018-02-25T01:57:47 < tomeaton17> no bad bot
2018-02-25T01:57:53 < tomeaton17> cant find what it is
2018-02-25T01:59:31 < tomeaton17> good idea will give that a go tomorrow
2018-02-25T01:59:42 < tomeaton17> just going to finish the mech layer for this pcb then gonna sleep
2018-02-25T02:00:46 < tomeaton17> lol yeah but muh tentaclez
2018-02-25T02:06:01 < kakimir> I think I'll buy liquid metal
2018-02-25T02:06:20 < srk> Rob235: won't last long :D
2018-02-25T02:06:29 < kakimir> and replace the shiet in my passive cooled laptop with that
2018-02-25T02:07:29 < kakimir> some even decan their cpus and put liquid metal under the lid
2018-02-25T02:07:47 < kakimir> mine is not capped
2018-02-25T02:09:41 < kakimir> anyone tried that shiet?
2018-02-25T02:10:09 < kakimir> with my processor I can actually get more performance linear to deltaT
2018-02-25T02:10:49 < kakimir> or in correlance
2018-02-25T02:10:51 < kakimir> to say
2018-02-25T02:13:07 < jadew> is it possible to send messages on whatsapp so they appear as sent the day before?
2018-02-25T02:13:42 < jadew> it was my birthday yesterday and someone sent me happy birthday an hour after midnight and the message appeared as being sent a couple of hours earlier
2018-02-25T02:13:43 < kakimir> no
2018-02-25T02:14:20 < kakimir> you didn't have mobile service or servers were down
2018-02-25T02:14:21 < jadew> I don't care about this sort of shit, but I found it suspicious
2018-02-25T02:14:35 < jadew> it's connected over wireless...
2018-02-25T02:14:44 < jadew> and I've been browsing thingieverse all night
2018-02-25T02:14:50 < jadew> *thingverse
2018-02-25T02:15:16 < kakimir> maybe your phone has some of those power saving things that do not let applications to poll all the time
2018-02-25T02:15:29 < jadew> maybe
2018-02-25T02:16:16 < jadew> I don't really care, just found it peculiar
2018-02-25T02:16:45 < jadew> where would this information be?
2018-02-25T02:17:36 < jadew> it wouldn't matter
2018-02-25T02:17:58 < jadew> if the time is spoofed in the package, there's nothing I can do
2018-02-25T02:18:12 < jadew> if there's a way to fool whatsapp to send such messages - nothing you can do
2018-02-25T02:18:30 < jadew> I'm gonna test this and send him a similar message when it's his birthday
2018-02-25T02:18:57 < jadew> cuz I never call him/message him on his birthday, so he'll get the message
2018-02-25T02:19:11 < jadew> whatsapp communication is encrypted
2018-02-25T02:19:19 < jadew> p2p encrypted
2018-02-25T02:21:04 < kakimir> jadew, nah
2018-02-25T02:21:16 < jadew> kakimir, so it was just a glitch?
2018-02-25T02:21:24 < jadew> ok... I'll let it slide then
2018-02-25T02:21:25 < kakimir> it's p2s s2p
2018-02-25T02:21:29 < kakimir> afaik
2018-02-25T02:21:42 < jadew> kakimir, yes, but the encryption is p2p
2018-02-25T02:21:51 < jadew> the server doesn't have private keys
2018-02-25T02:21:59 < jadew> it just holds encrypted packages
2018-02-25T02:22:30 < jadew> I don't know if that's the proper term for ut
2018-02-25T02:22:32 < jadew> *it
2018-02-25T02:22:56 < jadew> superbia, what?
2018-02-25T02:24:08 < jadew> Laurenceb_, is your cousin back on the job?
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2018-02-25T02:31:49 < stvn> yeah muscles
2018-02-25T02:37:22 < ColdKeyboard> What's going on with Windows drivers for ST-Link? I have nucleo that doesn't work and two other ST-Link that don't work...
2018-02-25T02:38:15 < ColdKeyboard> In GUI first time I try to connect it says ST-Link communication error and after that GUI freezes. OpenOCD also can't connect to programmer
2018-02-25T02:41:23 < ColdKeyboard> Anyone have clue how to fix this?
2018-02-25T02:45:27 < jadew> Steffanx, what do you use to create your 3d models?
2018-02-25T02:55:59 < Laurenceb_> jadew: no, sorry
2018-02-25T02:56:18 < jadew> it's ok, gave up on that task anyway
2018-02-25T02:56:18 < Laurenceb_> she is pregnant and decided not to work
2018-02-25T02:56:41 < jadew> ah, I thought she already had the baby
2018-02-25T02:56:52 < Laurenceb_> not yet
2018-02-25T02:57:26 < Laurenceb_> jadew is anxious to fap to ripped vagooo
2018-02-25T02:57:46 < jadew> lol
2018-02-25T02:58:02 < Laurenceb_> u probably wont see her again, she got a jerb designing custom pens
2018-02-25T02:58:05 < Laurenceb_> ya really
2018-02-25T02:58:26 < jadew> what can you do different about a pen?
2018-02-25T02:58:55 < jadew> (altough, the main reason I want a lathe is because I want to make myself a pen)
2018-02-25T02:59:42 < Laurenceb_> designs and stuff printed onto the sides
2018-02-25T02:59:48 < dongs> rip jadew https://stirileprotv.ro/stiri/actualitate/barbat-din-arges-accidentat-mortal-de-duba-politei-tragedia-surprinsa-de-camere.html
2018-02-25T03:02:37 < jadew> liveleak?
2018-02-25T03:15:34 < dongs> you mean this? https://gfycat.com/FrequentMiserableHyena
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2018-02-25T03:34:12 < jadew> the article says the guy on the bike was his brother
2018-02-25T03:40:09 < stvn> i thought they were playing gta
2018-02-25T03:44:57 < stvn> i am dindu operator
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2018-02-25T04:36:29 < jadew> 3rd print, own design, .2mm layers http://5.12.154.64/stuff/20180225_043155.jpg
2018-02-25T04:36:54 < jadew> it's 20 mm in length
2018-02-25T04:37:01 < jadew> I like this
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2018-02-25T04:39:10 < jadew> night
2018-02-25T04:53:08 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/647966b734/88347.jpg
2018-02-25T04:53:50 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/647966b734/88348.jpg
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2018-02-25T04:58:55 < aandrew> lol what was that for?
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2018-02-25T05:54:04 < upgrdman> anyone here have an induction cooktop? like it?
2018-02-25T05:54:22 < upgrdman> tempted to upgrd my shit normal electric range to induction
2018-02-25T05:54:46 < upgrdman> inducation use to be >$5000 but now decent ones are <$3000 and cheap ones are <$900
2018-02-25T05:55:02 < upgrdman> s/upgrd/replace
2018-02-25T06:26:34 < ds2> induction requires special cookware
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2018-02-25T06:50:57 < BrainDamage> if you have the option, go with gas, induction is superior to plain resistance, but still has some stupidies
2018-02-25T06:51:23 < BrainDamage> some cooktops have optical sensors to check for the pot's presence, if the surface is dirty they stop working
2018-02-25T06:51:41 < BrainDamage> which sometimes happen even from condensation
2018-02-25T06:52:04 < BrainDamage> induction is way way faster and more responsive than resistive since you don't have to heat up a giant puck of material
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2018-02-25T07:04:31 < aandrew> gas is awesome
2018-02-25T07:05:06 < BrainDamage> here gas is ubiquious, there's pipelines to nearly every house
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2018-02-25T07:08:35 < aandrew> same here
2018-02-25T07:08:46 < aandrew> it's cheap too compared to electric here
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2018-02-25T12:43:15 < Steffanx> Jadew, solidworkz
2018-02-25T12:43:27 < stvn> ^
2018-02-25T12:46:01 < Steffanx> Hello welcome
2018-02-25T12:46:09 < stvn> ty
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2018-02-25T12:50:05 < Steffanx> And happy birthday+1 jadew
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2018-02-25T12:54:38 < zyp> BrainDamage, what's the benefit of gas?
2018-02-25T12:55:17 < zyp> here in norway, gas lines to houses is not a thing, everybody is using electrical
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2018-02-25T12:57:50 < zyp> also a bit confused by upgrdman's price figures
2018-02-25T12:59:22 < zyp> my cooktop costs $430 new here, and is pretty decent, best I've ever used
2018-02-25T12:59:28 < qyx> here is gas 1/2 the price of electricity /per kWh)
2018-02-25T12:59:35 < zyp> cheaper full-size options are available for around $300
2018-02-25T12:59:51 < zyp> and then there's smaller options that's even cheaper
2018-02-25T13:00:24 < qyx> but in norway you have millions of water power plants
2018-02-25T13:00:44 < zyp> I have a portable single pan one that I picked up for $40
2018-02-25T13:01:01 < zyp> yeah, I'm aware
2018-02-25T13:01:41 < zyp> but I was thinking use benefits, not just price benefit
2018-02-25T13:02:26 < zyp> I've also never seen any induction tops with the optical sensors BrainDamage are mentioning
2018-02-25T13:02:56 < zyp> all the ones I've used just use the magnetic field to sense if a pot is present
2018-02-25T13:05:50 < zyp> my neighbor's house is for sale, according to the photos in the ad, they have a gas cooktop, and I don't understand why they would opt for that over induction
2018-02-25T13:06:50 < zyp> https://www.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=105576575 <- ref. photos 10-15
2018-02-25T13:07:21 < zyp> no gas lines here, so they have a cylinder standing underneath it
2018-02-25T13:08:27 < qyx> is this a typical norwegian architecture?
2018-02-25T13:08:50 < qyx> it has too complex shapes :S
2018-02-25T13:09:02 < zyp> guess so
2018-02-25T13:09:29 < zyp> steep roofs are common to avoid too much snow piling up
2018-02-25T13:11:26 < qyx> wtf it is actually pretty
2018-02-25T13:11:38 < qyx> you cannot get anything close for that price here
2018-02-25T13:13:57 < qyx> for example https://www.topreality.sk/novostavba-velky-pozemok-rd-6-iz-up-430-m2-poz-1-100-m2-nezvalova-ul-podunajske-biskupice-ba-ii-650-000-r3830483.html
2018-02-25T13:14:12 < zyp> I live in a smaller city, so the prices are not so high compared to other norwegian cities, and this is a bit away from city centre too
2018-02-25T13:15:24 < qyx> how much inhabitants?
2018-02-25T13:16:15 < qyx> ah 22K
2018-02-25T13:16:28 < zyp> yeah, for the entire municipality
2018-02-25T13:17:09 < qyx> but anyway
2018-02-25T13:17:22 < qyx> this is norway and not east europe
2018-02-25T13:17:25 < zyp> more central, you get something like this for that price: https://www.finn.no/realestate/newbuildings/ad.html?finnkode=82778638
2018-02-25T13:17:35 < zyp> two bedrooms, less than half the size
2018-02-25T13:18:01 < zyp> maybe an unfair comparison, the latter is brand new
2018-02-25T13:18:10 < zyp> but still
2018-02-25T13:18:25 < stvn> need to get away from where the nuke will land
2018-02-25T13:18:31 < qyx> brand new flats ~70m^2 are 300k€ here in the centre
2018-02-25T13:19:09 < qyx> it is crazy, the prices nearly doubled in the past few years
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2018-02-25T13:20:23 < zyp> https://www.finn.no/realestate/newbuildings/ad.html?finnkode=85408517 <- I'm considering buying this
2018-02-25T13:20:54 < zyp> just need to get financing sorted out first
2018-02-25T13:22:45 < zyp> bank says I'm qualifying fine for the loan I want, but they can't give me a formal confirmation before I've given them a copy of some paperwork, and I won't have that paperwork until april
2018-02-25T13:23:41 < zyp> and I naturally don't want to sign a contract for it before I actually have a formal confirmation that I can pay for it
2018-02-25T13:24:04 < qyx> is it new?
2018-02-25T13:24:15 < zyp> so right now I'm just waiting and hoping nobody else gets it before me :p
2018-02-25T13:24:19 < zyp> yeah, not built yet
2018-02-25T13:24:28 < qyx> ah I see the arrow now
2018-02-25T13:25:15 < qyx> the neightbors one have better surroundings
2018-02-25T13:25:23 < qyx> no sea though
2018-02-25T13:25:26 < qyx> or lake or whatever is it
2018-02-25T13:25:36 < zyp> the sea is close enough
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2018-02-25T13:46:44 < Steffanx> Is that an average house price in norway, zyp?
2018-02-25T13:47:29 < kakimir> one million euros is average house price in norway
2018-02-25T13:49:30 < zyp> Steffanx, which of them?
2018-02-25T13:51:47 < zyp> before you can talk about an average house price, you need to define what you consider an average house
2018-02-25T13:52:00 < zyp> and it varies a lot based on area as well
2018-02-25T13:52:59 < Steffanx> The last one you posted. 3M nok. Sounds pretty high. Especially when converted to euros, but.. i no nothing about house prices there
2018-02-25T13:54:11 < zyp> even considering it's brand new?
2018-02-25T13:54:29 < Steffanx> Yeah
2018-02-25T13:55:17 < zyp> one of my friends bought a similarly sized one in the same area for 2.9 a couple of years ago
2018-02-25T13:57:00 < zyp> reason I want it is because it looks like the best deal available in the price and size range I'm looking
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2018-02-25T13:57:53 < zyp> it's the cheapest new house in that size available around here, and buying new is preferable to buying old
2018-02-25T13:58:25 < qyx> many people here are buying old because the new ones are built very cheaply
2018-02-25T13:58:30 < qyx> I mean cheap materials etc.
2018-02-25T13:59:47 < zyp> norway have pretty rigorous standards for new buildings now
2018-02-25T14:00:56 < zyp> for instance, a new house will be much better insulated, reducing heating needs/costs
2018-02-25T14:03:35 < qyx> thats true, but some peope don't like plasterboard walls, ytong/premac or the density of the flats/houses
2018-02-25T14:04:38 < zyp> I'm not a too big fan of plasterboard myself
2018-02-25T14:05:03 < zyp> for some reason the one I'm looking at buying specifies MDF rather than plasterboard
2018-02-25T14:05:28 < zyp> which seems like another advantage to me, easier to hang stuff
2018-02-25T14:11:15 < dongs> pmpn
2018-02-25T14:11:30 < zyp> sup?
2018-02-25T14:12:43 < dongs> wasted 30 minutes explaining why 2 devices on separate SPI buses with CS tied low on both is not a good idea
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2018-02-25T14:16:07 < zyp> no way to resync, explanation done
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2018-02-25T14:17:13 < dongs> ive said it
2018-02-25T14:17:23 < dongs> <idiot> but there's a reset write register command
2018-02-25T14:17:43 < dongs> <more time spent explaoining that the fucking thing wouldnt know that next byte youre writing is a reset address/whatever>
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2018-02-25T14:18:53 < dongs> zyp, do you know about dfu descriptors much?
2018-02-25T14:18:58 < zyp> sure
2018-02-25T14:19:05 < dongs> the shit that makes ST's DFU thing shut up about 'device not being compatible maybe'
2018-02-25T14:19:13 < dongs> is that something you just add to ex. cdc-acm
2018-02-25T14:19:18 < dongs> or does it need its own class/something implemented
2018-02-25T14:19:31 < zyp> what do you mean?
2018-02-25T14:19:38 < dongs> like
2018-02-25T14:19:52 < dongs> there's some descriptor? or something you cna add to a normal usb device
2018-02-25T14:20:01 < dongs> that makes it be dfu-capable
2018-02-25T14:20:14 < dongs> so the ST dfu loader app can switch to firmware udpate mode automaticalyl i guess
2018-02-25T14:20:22 < zyp> yes, a runtime descriptor
2018-02-25T14:20:35 < dongs> so what happens when thats there?
2018-02-25T14:20:44 < dongs> your userspace code needs to check for something and reboot to dfu?
2018-02-25T14:20:49 < zyp> IIRC you add another interface in the config descriptor, then a DFU runtime descriptor under that
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2018-02-25T14:21:22 < zyp> interface has no endpoints of its own, so it doesn't require any resources, but you can send control requests targetting that interface to command it to switch to DFU mode
2018-02-25T14:21:36 < dongs> i'm seeing 'dfu class' in cube
2018-02-25T14:21:55 < zyp> it's called "dfu runtime" in the spec
2018-02-25T14:22:24 < dongs> ok, ill check it out
2018-02-25T14:22:27 < zyp> it's basically the same dfu descriptor as the dfu device itself, with a bit to tell it's runtime mode instead
2018-02-25T14:22:51 < dongs> i wonder if ST's shit is that or something custom
2018-02-25T14:23:05 < Tectu> any openvpn experts present?
2018-02-25T14:23:32 < dongs> im sure upgrdman is asleep
2018-02-25T14:23:58 < Tectu> is upgrman the opnvpnman?
2018-02-25T14:24:11 < dongs> yes
2018-02-25T14:24:19 < zyp> do I count?
2018-02-25T14:24:29 < zyp> I've dicked around a bit with openvpn
2018-02-25T14:24:32 < BrainDamage> zyp: the benefit of gas is multifold, first of all it throws a ridiculous amount of power compared to electric, also by shifting the pot around you can chose to focus where the heat is, the optical sensors are typically used in glass surface cooktops
2018-02-25T14:24:50 < zyp> BrainDamage, so non-induction glass surface?
2018-02-25T14:24:52 < dongs> yeah gas cooking is definitely >>>> electric
2018-02-25T14:25:01 < dongs> there's no discussion about that :)
2018-02-25T14:25:21 < dongs> or induction or whatever else
2018-02-25T14:25:24 < BrainDamage> zyp: no, induction cooktop beneath a large glass surface
2018-02-25T14:25:36 < zyp> that's every induction cooktop ever
2018-02-25T14:25:48 < zyp> and I've never seen any with optical sensor
2018-02-25T14:26:00 < BrainDamage> I'll take a pic of one of my friends' then
2018-02-25T14:26:06 < BrainDamage> you can even see the red led
2018-02-25T14:26:07 < Tectu> zyp, well my setup is basically working. The only problem I have is figuring out how to provide the passphrase of the client's private key when launching the client instance. When I launch ist just like  $> openvpn --config /.... everything is working as it prompts for the passphrase.
2018-02-25T14:26:19 < BrainDamage> and it beeps angrily at you if you don't clean it
2018-02-25T14:26:38 < zyp> Tectu, oh, idk then, I've never set passphrases on keys
2018-02-25T14:26:52 < dongs> security by ignorance
2018-02-25T14:27:00 < Rob235> woo, first prototype for my pen/marker holder is printing
2018-02-25T14:27:27 < Tectu> zyp, thanks
2018-02-25T14:27:35 < Tectu> how comes taht every time I tune in here the printer talk starts?
2018-02-25T14:28:10 < Rob235> I'm so sorry, I will never forgive myself
2018-02-25T14:28:11 < dongs> tectu because sadly channel is full of stoners
2018-02-25T14:28:59 < zyp> I don't doubt that gas is faster than traditional electric, but I'm not sure it beats induction
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2018-02-25T14:30:08 < Tectu> such negativity
2018-02-25T14:30:41 < zyp> the advantage of induction is that it puts all the energy directly into the pot, not all around it
2018-02-25T14:31:22 < zyp> gas might put out more power, but I bet that the amount going into the pot is comparable
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2018-02-25T14:35:19 < zyp> I mean, induction is powerful enough that full power is mostly reserved for boiling stuff
2018-02-25T14:35:44 < zyp> throwing full power into a fry pan is advised against as it might crack the pan or burn any nonstick coating
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2018-02-25T14:39:57 < Rob235> you guys are talking about cooking and me bringing up my printer for a channel related project is the issue? :P
2018-02-25T14:40:17 < BrainDamage> what's the channel related issue?
2018-02-25T14:41:01 < Rob235> I just meant my sentence was closer related to the channel
2018-02-25T14:41:24 < Rob235> I'm just joking though, I dont really care
2018-02-25T14:41:44 < Rob235> I'll continue to semi blog as Steffanx puts it
2018-02-25T14:42:22 < Steffanx> i dont give a damn Rob235. Everyone blogs.
2018-02-25T14:42:39 < Rob235> yea I know, I was just using your term which is pretty accurate
2018-02-25T14:42:40 < Steffanx> And as long as it's not crap it's ok.
2018-02-25T14:45:10 < Rob235> time to design the spring and collet for the holder, everything else is done, unless it doesnt work...
2018-02-25T14:49:33 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-25T14:49:44 < dongs> how is 100mhz F4 supposed to run off 12mhz xtal?
2018-02-25T14:49:55 < dongs> i cant imagine any PLL options to get it to 100
2018-02-25T14:49:57 < dongs> just run at 96?
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2018-02-25T14:58:20 < zyp> doesn't it have same RCC as any other F4? divide input by 12 or 6 to get 1 or 2 MHz, then set a N/P factor to get 100x or 50x
2018-02-25T14:59:19 < zyp> might not be able to generate 48MHz for USB that way though
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2018-02-25T14:59:31 < zyp> that'd limit you to 96
2018-02-25T15:25:59 < dongs> yeha ok
2018-02-25T15:26:03 < dongs> i think the onyl usb working config is 96
2018-02-25T15:26:11 < dongs> you *can* do 100 like you say, but then usb is fucked so
2018-02-25T15:26:17 < Steffanx> Heh, so the new stm32wb is the reason why that other newish L4 had a reference to some HSEM  (hardware semaphore). Probably just hte same chip without the radio part.
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2018-02-25T15:37:25 < zyp> Steffanx, yeah, that's what I also thought
2018-02-25T15:37:35 < zyp> I remember discussing the HSEM with somebody
2018-02-25T15:38:35 < dongs> pump n dump
2018-02-25T15:39:04 < zyp> ah, that was me and jpa-, jan. 6
2018-02-25T15:39:08 < zyp> about H7, not L4
2018-02-25T15:39:49 < zyp> 21:20:20 < zyp> that HSEM block is obviously designed for multicore systems
2018-02-25T15:40:05 < zyp> 21:25:32 < zyp> I assume they stole it from a multicore chip
2018-02-25T15:40:05 < zyp> 21:25:50 < jpa-> or want some compatibility with some future multicore chip
2018-02-25T15:42:10 < dongs> i'd go with stolen
2018-02-25T15:42:43 < dongs> wait what's H7? thats some new stm32 right?
2018-02-25T15:42:48 < dongs> or that chink allwinner
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2018-02-25T15:43:13 < dongs> allwhiner only gots to H5/H3
2018-02-25T15:44:00 < zyp> stm32h7
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2018-02-25T15:44:25 < Steffanx> yeah, i was referring to that conversation zyp
2018-02-25T15:44:28 < dongs> thats not gonna be cheaper for my USB host
2018-02-25T15:44:33 < dongs> than some chink shit or i.mx :*
2018-02-25T15:45:40 < Steffanx> i thought it was about some L4 though
2018-02-25T15:46:09 < Steffanx> crt/stvn aint around, so no need to pump and dump mr dongs
2018-02-25T15:46:56 < dongs> im gonna pump and dump myself into bed
2018-02-25T15:47:03 < dongs> bai
2018-02-25T15:47:08 < karlp> sleep tight
2018-02-25T15:47:16 < zyp> dongs, what do you think about that sama5 with builtin sdram?
2018-02-25T15:48:00 < Steffanx> Except for the lowest memory one, it aims at lunix, what do you think he thinks? :P
2018-02-25T15:48:08 < zyp> :p
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2018-02-25T17:57:15 < Steffanx> You dont have to state the obvious tectu_crazy
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2018-02-25T17:57:32 < _crazy> got ya
2018-02-25T18:01:02 < Steffanx> :P
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2018-02-25T19:09:24 < Thorn> can you believe this bullshit https://paste.jvnv.net/view/C7BRD
2018-02-25T19:10:18 < Thorn> that 10 line function is compiled to 125 bytes of code
2018-02-25T19:10:57 < Thorn> is it normal in this architecture or what
2018-02-25T19:11:35 < Lux> pls make an array of those structs
2018-02-25T19:11:41 < englishman> ^
2018-02-25T19:11:53 < Lux> arduino coding style :P
2018-02-25T19:12:00 < englishman> and a typedef for rgb
2018-02-25T19:12:42 < englishman> hello Lux
2018-02-25T19:13:11 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/lqZlB43.jpg
2018-02-25T19:13:38 < Lux> cute cat :)
2018-02-25T19:14:39 < englishman> yes
2018-02-25T19:14:57 < englishman> he is named lil'dongs after renowned stm32 pro
2018-02-25T19:15:18 < Thorn> 105 bytes
2018-02-25T19:15:44 < Lux> superbia1: so what ?
2018-02-25T19:16:01 < englishman> yes he was a starving kitty when i found him
2018-02-25T19:16:48 < Thorn> if I get rid of structs completely the code becomes much more compact
2018-02-25T19:16:57 < Thorn> but that's even more arduino :/
2018-02-25T19:18:22 < kakimir> ircin in coffee place
2018-02-25T19:18:25 < kakimir> weird shiet
2018-02-25T19:18:27 < Lux> https://www.dropbox.com/s/51axiro03cp6in3/IMG_20171201_210139.jpg
2018-02-25T19:18:47 < Lux> cat in a box
2018-02-25T19:18:59 < kakimir> all the people talking with each other and someone ircin
2018-02-25T19:19:52 < kakimir> smile whole the time like you have the funniest chat ever
2018-02-25T19:20:36 < Thorn> it's now using mul to calculate addresses lol
2018-02-25T19:20:47 < kakimir> thanks superbia1
2018-02-25T19:21:13 < kakimir> I think I need to leave my latte is done
2018-02-25T19:22:42 < zyp> Thorn, stm8?
2018-02-25T19:22:51 < Thorn> yes
2018-02-25T19:23:11 < Thorn> with sdcc
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2018-02-25T19:24:52 < zyp> mostly 8-bit instructions, not a lot of space for fancy tricks there
2018-02-25T19:25:02 < zyp> guess that's why
2018-02-25T19:25:52 < zyp> a bunch of those instructions seems to be setting up adresses for indirect loads
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2018-02-25T19:26:03 < Thorn> yeah
2018-02-25T19:26:20 < Thorn> I'm too lazy to try a commercial compiler on the same code
2018-02-25T19:26:42 < Steffanx> Is it an up to date sdcc?
2018-02-25T19:27:00 < Thorn> a couple months old
2018-02-25T19:27:09 < Steffanx> Stop lazying and try cosmic
2018-02-25T19:27:16 < Steffanx> And iar
2018-02-25T19:27:56 < englishman> cosmic is free
2018-02-25T19:28:13 < Steffanx> But commercial.
2018-02-25T19:28:20 < englishman> i dont see the problem
2018-02-25T19:28:25 < Steffanx> Me neither.
2018-02-25T19:28:26 < Thorn> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/d56EQ
2018-02-25T19:30:27 < englishman> channels[channel - 1].g = g; is 4 bytes heh
2018-02-25T19:30:28 < zyp> oh, not a lot of registers either
2018-02-25T19:30:51 < zyp> only GP registers are A, X and Y?
2018-02-25T19:31:07 < zyp> no wonder it's inefficient
2018-02-25T19:31:19 < zyp> even AVR8 should be more efficient than that
2018-02-25T19:31:26 < Thorn> yeah and they're not exactly GP either
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2018-02-25T19:36:19 < englishman> shouldnt this entire function just take in a pointer to rgb struct and pass it to appropriate tim function in a function pointer array
2018-02-25T19:36:25 < englishman> like 2-3 lines max
2018-02-25T19:36:29 < englishman> and no data handling or assignments
2018-02-25T19:37:09 < Thorn> rgb channel 1 != tim1
2018-02-25T19:37:51 < Thorn> each rgb channel uses 1 pwm channel on 1 timer and 2 pwm channels on the other
2018-02-25T19:38:18 < Thorn> for routing convenience
2018-02-25T19:39:13 < Thorn> OTOH I can set CC channels individually lol, no need to set all 6 at the same time
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2018-02-25T19:53:45 < Thorn> aaand almost no gain in terms of code size despite greatly simplified code lol
2018-02-25T20:15:41 < jadew> Steffanx, thank you
2018-02-25T20:15:50 < jadew> about solidworks - a bit out of my price range right now
2018-02-25T20:16:10 < jadew> I kinda like openscad tho, I'm quickly building a library of reusable modules
2018-02-25T20:16:16 < Steffanx> then fusion360 or maybe freecad is your only choice i guess
2018-02-25T20:17:05 < jadew> I'll look into fusion, but freecad kinda sucks
2018-02-25T20:17:51 < kakimir> kinda yes
2018-02-25T20:19:10 < Steffanx> but fusion 360 aint free for commercial use i assume?
2018-02-25T20:19:16 < jadew> openscad has a single quirk so far
2018-02-25T20:19:38 < kakimir> Steffanx, only for startups
2018-02-25T20:19:43 < jadew> don't know didn't really looked into fusion because of the cloud aspect
2018-02-25T20:19:49 < kakimir> below 100k revenue or so
2018-02-25T20:20:02 < kakimir> I heard they don't really validate that
2018-02-25T20:21:05 < jadew> kakimir are the designs open by default?
2018-02-25T20:21:15 < kakimir> ?
2018-02-25T20:21:25 < jadew> like with circuit maker
2018-02-25T20:21:58 < kakimir> I don't understand
2018-02-25T20:22:01 < kakimir> designs?
2018-02-25T20:22:17 < kakimir> fusion360 consists of modules that are free and modules that are not free
2018-02-25T20:22:21 < jadew> like if I save my object in their platform, can anyone see it?
2018-02-25T20:22:37 < kakimir> probs with free version
2018-02-25T20:22:46 < kakimir> if you use their cloud
2018-02-25T20:22:50 < kakimir> I don't know
2018-02-25T20:23:52 < jadew> I thought you used it since you knew about the licensing
2018-02-25T20:24:02 < kakimir> someone I know uses it
2018-02-25T20:25:04 < Steffanx> Rob235 is totally into 360
2018-02-25T20:27:50 < Steffanx> solidworks is only $4k jadew :P
2018-02-25T20:28:16 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah...
2018-02-25T20:28:49 < jadew> I think openscad will be fine for now
2018-02-25T20:29:01 < jadew> probably not really ok for complex mechanisms
2018-02-25T20:29:24 < jadew> which can be simulated in solidworks
2018-02-25T20:35:41 < jadew> fusion looks nice
2018-02-25T20:47:18 < Rob235> ?
2018-02-25T20:47:56 < Rob235> I can't compare it to anything since its all ive used but I like working with fusion360
2018-02-25T20:48:33 < Rob235> I don't use their mechanics though, just modeling.
2018-02-25T20:51:24 < Rob235> alright, used my dull carbide tip bit to get through the top enamel layer of this tile, lets hope this brand new bit will last drilling the rest of the way
2018-02-25T21:11:20 < Thorn> attn englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgrSo9iScwU
2018-02-25T21:31:04 < Steffanx> someone is having fun: https://github.com/vterm/vterm must be a joke
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2018-02-25T22:05:43 < ohsix> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhuuOWteelc
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2018-02-25T23:02:58 < Steffanx> welcome.
2018-02-25T23:03:49 < zyp> yo
2018-02-25T23:04:58 < Steffanx> is it a good morning?
2018-02-25T23:05:30 < Steffanx> ok
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2018-02-25T23:36:17 < kakimir> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5433447/Police-rush-Leicester-house-explosion-reported.html
2018-02-25T23:37:15 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-25T23:51:09 < jadew> never looked into mechanical design before, I'm discovering interesting things
2018-02-25T23:51:33 < jadew> like plastic bearings that are made possible by special screws
2018-02-25T23:52:33 < jadew> unfortunately, I don't have the other screw, so I can't replicate that bearing, but I may be able to find a similar one
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2018-02-26T00:01:04 < Steffanx> Special screws jadew ?
2018-02-26T00:01:28 < jadew> yeah, this one seems to countersunk but in a different way than normal
2018-02-26T00:01:59 < jadew> the shoulder is a bit thicker and the angle is not as abrupt as for regular countersunk
2018-02-26T00:02:10 < jadew> I'll make a picture
2018-02-26T00:02:13 < jadew> it's very interesting
2018-02-26T00:02:25 < Steffanx> No link?
2018-02-26T00:02:33 < jadew> as you tighten it, the plug part of the bearing gets centered
2018-02-26T00:02:39 < jadew> no, I can't find them yet
2018-02-26T00:03:06 < Steffanx> Oh  you have such bearing
2018-02-26T00:03:26 < Rob235> print is 99%
2018-02-26T00:03:52 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, it's just that I have only one and the other one is missing
2018-02-26T00:04:10 < jadew> in fact, I remember throwing out that screw because I didn't know where it was from and it looked a bit rusted
2018-02-26T00:04:37 < Steffanx> 😑
2018-02-26T00:05:04 < Steffanx> We need pics Rob235.
2018-02-26T00:05:08 < jadew> that character didn't get through
2018-02-26T00:05:32 < Steffanx> Blogging is old. Vlogs or at least pictures is hot.
2018-02-26T00:05:45 < Steffanx> Its some emoji, jadew
2018-02-26T00:05:53 < jadew> which one? :)
2018-02-26T00:05:54 < jadew> http://5.12.154.64/stuff/20180226_000314.jpg
2018-02-26T00:06:05 < Steffanx> -_- ish
2018-02-26T00:06:24 < Steffanx> Hmm looks almost a bit customish
2018-02-26T00:06:52 < jadew> yeah... might be common in the furniture industry
2018-02-26T00:09:32 < Rob235> https://i.imgur.com/PkZ6dlP.png
2018-02-26T00:11:47 < jadew> Rob235, what's that?
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2018-02-26T00:13:02 < jef79m> https://imgur.com/a/2Arak I thought thatwas part of the print for a minute..
2018-02-26T00:13:12 < Rob235> first prototype of my pen holder for the drawing robot.  designed a collet system but who knows if its gonna work as I planned
2018-02-26T00:13:27 < jadew> jef79m, is it not?
2018-02-26T00:13:33 < jadew> what is it?
2018-02-26T00:14:15 < jef79m> jadew: if it is, I guess the printer can do amazing overhangs without support.
2018-02-26T00:14:38 < jadew> yeah, doesn't seem to be
2018-02-26T00:16:16 < Rob235> hah its to circulate the blower fan air around the nozzle
2018-02-26T00:16:31 < Rob235> it was a separate print
2018-02-26T00:17:42 < Rob235> it does look like it fits with this print though
2018-02-26T00:19:57 < Steffanx> Looks nice Rob235
2018-02-26T00:20:02 < Rob235> thanks
2018-02-26T00:20:21 < Steffanx> And so much less time spend in the library :P
2018-02-26T00:20:31 < Rob235> yes, best part
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2018-02-26T00:21:38 < jadew> is slic3r what everyone is using for slicing?
2018-02-26T00:21:56 < Rob235> simplify3d
2018-02-26T00:22:04 < jadew> didn't try that one
2018-02-26T00:22:05 < jadew> thanks
2018-02-26T00:22:09 < Steffanx> Its payware
2018-02-26T00:22:13 < Rob235> its great, but costs moneys
2018-02-26T00:22:18 < Lux> *arr
2018-02-26T00:22:27 < Lux> i mean you can pirate it
2018-02-26T00:22:31 < Rob235> :)
2018-02-26T00:22:34 < Steffanx> Cura is free too, jadew
2018-02-26T00:22:39 < Steffanx> And used often
2018-02-26T00:22:47 < Lux> but tbh other slicers are just as good
2018-02-26T00:22:58 < Lux> just a bit more work to get working well
2018-02-26T00:23:02 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, tried cura - it's ok, but I'm not happy with the mouse navigation
2018-02-26T00:23:07 < Steffanx> The ui of cura is AWFUL
2018-02-26T00:23:17 < Rob235> cura and slic3r seem to be the next best two, both have a decent user base but both UI's are pretty bad from what I hear
2018-02-26T00:23:35 < jadew> I think I can get used with the changing of profiles in slicer (as opoosed to having all those settings easily available while looking at the model)
2018-02-26T00:23:47 < Steffanx> I went from cura to simplify3d.
2018-02-26T00:23:57 < jadew> how much is simplify?
2018-02-26T00:24:18 < jadew> 150??
2018-02-26T00:24:25 < Steffanx> The ui is much simplify
2018-02-26T00:24:29 < jadew> fuck that
2018-02-26T00:24:36 < jadew> I'll use slic3r
2018-02-26T00:24:47 < Steffanx> Yeah :¶
2018-02-26T00:24:51 < Lux> and no updates in half a year
2018-02-26T00:24:52 < jadew> I can buy another printer for that money
2018-02-26T00:25:07 < Lux> cura seems much more active
2018-02-26T00:25:20 < jadew> Lux, cura is nice because it can print directly
2018-02-26T00:25:30 < jadew> but I had an issue with a print today and it doesn't stop printing cleanly
2018-02-26T00:25:39 < Steffanx> So can simplify3d
2018-02-26T00:25:43 < jadew> on one of the prints it just stopped in the midle of it
2018-02-26T00:25:46 < jadew> *middle
2018-02-26T00:25:51 < Lux> but the cura interface kinda sucks
2018-02-26T00:26:23 < Lux> i use octoprint for mine
2018-02-26T00:26:42 < Steffanx> Yeah the no updates sucks lux.
2018-02-26T00:26:59 < Lux> it's nice, as it lets me start the printer remotely
2018-02-26T00:27:03 < jadew> I'm just looking at octoprint now
2018-02-26T00:27:11 < Lux> then i just have to go down to the cellar and get the part
2018-02-26T00:27:13 < Steffanx> While cura seems to move forward. The newish tree like supportd looked nice
2018-02-26T00:27:29 < Rob235> yea, octoprint is on my todo list
2018-02-26T00:28:22 < Steffanx> I have it installed on an rpi but no printer connected it it :D
2018-02-26T00:28:31 < Rob235> this last 1% is still going, I didn't realize how much it slowed down as it gets higher
2018-02-26T00:28:38 < jadew> I'm looking for a video on the interface
2018-02-26T00:28:48 < jadew> but all I can find are install videos
2018-02-26T00:28:59 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RlPWxKhEvM
2018-02-26T00:29:00 < jadew> found it
2018-02-26T00:29:22 < Lux> just try it, it's really easy to use and fully customizable with their plugin system
2018-02-26T00:29:24 < jadew> it doesn't do slicing, right?
2018-02-26T00:29:50 < Lux> It's not really meant for slicing
2018-02-26T00:29:57 < Rob235> I want to update my fw to marlin and add features but I'm limited to 128kb flash which the bigger lcd takes up most of. I'm gonna have to get a new mainboard at some point
2018-02-26T00:30:01 < jadew> yeah, I guess I'll install that
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2018-02-26T00:30:54 < Lux> but you can have cura send stuff directly to octoprint
2018-02-26T00:31:55 < Lux> you just need to enter the ip and api key in cura
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2018-02-26T00:32:11 < jadew> nice
2018-02-26T00:32:38 < Rob235> I gotta find a new gcode song for my printer to play on completion, this version of indiana jones is terrible.  I'll have to put mario back on :)
2018-02-26T00:32:49 < jadew> does the prusa use the same marlin firmware as all the other ones?
2018-02-26T00:33:01 < jadew> the knob has a reverse action
2018-02-26T00:33:07 < jadew> if you turn it clockwise it goes down in value
2018-02-26T00:33:17 < jadew> if you turn it reverse clock wise it goes up :/
2018-02-26T00:33:36 < Rob235> its done finally
2018-02-26T00:33:40 < jadew> looks like slic3r knows about octroprint too
2018-02-26T00:34:31 < Rob235> now I gotta finish up this collet and play with spring designs
2018-02-26T00:34:32 < Rob235> anyone ever 3d print a spring?
2018-02-26T00:34:57 < jadew> I just printed a springy thing today
2018-02-26T00:35:03 < jadew> well... 15 or so of them
2018-02-26T00:35:19 < jadew> used a 90 degrees arc
2018-02-26T00:35:28 < Rob235> 2mm diameter seems to be a good starting point from what Ive seen
2018-02-26T00:35:30 < jadew> 1mm thick wall
2018-02-26T00:35:35 < Rob235> hmm
2018-02-26T00:35:50 < Rob235> maybe i'll start with 1.5
2018-02-26T00:35:53 < jadew> I guess it depends on how springy you want it
2018-02-26T00:36:38 < Rob235> I don't have enough filament right now to print out a bunch so I'm probably gonna do one after the other until its good
2018-02-26T00:37:19 < karlp> zyp: I take it you've never actualyl cooked on a gas stove?
2018-02-26T00:37:21 < Rob235> or maybe make it like a temperature tower and have it get thinner as it goes up
2018-02-26T00:38:20 < zyp> karlp, I have, if you count camping trailers
2018-02-26T00:38:24 < zyp> but not in a house, no
2018-02-26T00:38:37 < zyp> since virtually nobody has it in their houses here
2018-02-26T00:39:38 < jadew> everyone uses electric stoves?
2018-02-26T00:39:46 < zyp> yes
2018-02-26T00:39:46 < jadew> we have a gas stove with electric oven
2018-02-26T00:41:55 < zyp> gas networks is not a thing here, if you want a gas cooktop at home, you'll have to supply it from your own cylinder
2018-02-26T00:42:17 < kakimir> in here only used in remote cabins and camping
2018-02-26T00:42:46 < zyp> yeah, same
2018-02-26T00:43:15 < kakimir> it's proly because you leave natural gas to sea
2018-02-26T00:43:28 < kakimir> burn it in those oil drillin platforms
2018-02-26T00:43:32 < zyp> :p
2018-02-26T00:44:22 < kakimir> https://bridgesystemsltd.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/North-Sea-oil-rig-014.jpg
2018-02-26T00:44:54 < kakimir> somewhere near the shore they build a pipe for it
2018-02-26T00:45:28 < kakimir> but not in the middle of north sea
2018-02-26T00:46:05 < Rob235> haha shit, I didnt' know these rods I have are different sizes...
2018-02-26T00:46:40 < Rob235> maybe I can cut one
2018-02-26T00:54:21 < karlp> dongs: I use a spi device with CS tied low, and use the rset register write to resync :)
2018-02-26T00:54:39 < karlp> it's.... tricky, and I don't recommend it, but it saved a pin and changing from a 4channel to a 5 channel isolator :)
2018-02-26T00:55:52 < zyp> speaking of SPI, CS and isolators, I should redesign my energy metering board to release MISO when the isolated slave is not asserted
2018-02-26T00:56:22 < zyp> right now, isolator won't release MISO when the metering chip does
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2018-02-26T01:01:13 < karlp> yar, I'd like gas here, but not enoguh that I want to have a gas bottle taking up space in a cupboard in the kitchen :)
2018-02-26T01:02:47 < Rob235> this pen holder is amazing, I'm going to pat myself on the back for this one
2018-02-26T01:04:03 < Steffanx> Lol
2018-02-26T01:04:09 < Rob235> ;)
2018-02-26T01:04:21 < jadew> did you assemble it?
2018-02-26T01:05:03 < Rob235> yea, I need to make a couple changes but it works a lot better than I thought it was going to
2018-02-26T01:09:52 < zyp> karlp, what do you have now?
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2018-02-26T01:11:04 < jadew> seems octoprint can do slicing too, using curaengine
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2018-02-26T01:11:17 < jadew> but I'd rather send the print from slic3r
2018-02-26T01:11:35 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-26T01:11:51 < zyp> that's what I do, slice in slic3r and send directly to octoprint
2018-02-26T01:12:26 < zyp> I wanna see the preview after slicing, so doing that headless is not interesting
2018-02-26T01:12:52 < jadew> yeah
2018-02-26T01:14:50 < jadew> weird I had to enter the print volume manually
2018-02-26T01:15:07 < jadew> would have expected for some sort of info command to be supported by printers
2018-02-26T01:15:17 < jadew> so they can spit out everything about themselves
2018-02-26T01:15:19 < karlp> plain boring ordinary electric.
2018-02-26T01:15:40 < karlp> what's in grimstad anyway?
2018-02-26T01:15:50 < zyp> hmm?
2018-02-26T01:15:52 < karlp> sekrit .no military projects? it's in the middle of nowhere
2018-02-26T01:16:11 < zyp> nothing very interesting
2018-02-26T01:16:30 < karlp> so, is the house that's being built going to look just likethe ones on either side ofit? :)
2018-02-26T01:16:38 < zyp> yes
2018-02-26T01:16:59 < zyp> well, depending on customer customizations
2018-02-26T01:19:19 < zyp> grimstad in itself is not so interesting, but I knew some people living here when I were selecting which university to go to in 2008
2018-02-26T01:19:36 < Rob235> https://imgur.com/a/2YoHI
2018-02-26T01:20:05 < zyp> my other main option was oslo, ended up picking grimstad due to lower cost of living
2018-02-26T01:20:14 < Rob235> I just realized the metal rods I have are different sizes (taken from a dvd player) so I only have one in for most of the pics
2018-02-26T01:20:31 < karlp> where do you work?
2018-02-26T01:20:42 < karlp> is grimstad closer commute to oslo than it looks or what?
2018-02-26T01:20:57 < zyp> haha, no, it's a 300km drive
2018-02-26T01:21:09 < zyp> I work at a small local company
2018-02-26T01:22:27 < zyp> earlier, the norwegian branch of ST-Ericsson had their offices here
2018-02-26T01:23:07 < zyp> after they closed, I don't think there's any big name software/electronics companies left
2018-02-26T01:23:38 < zyp> but still a bunch of small ones
2018-02-26T01:26:16 < karlp> how big is the grimstad urban area?
2018-02-26T01:26:25 < zyp> measured how?
2018-02-26T01:28:49 < karlp> however you feel is reasonable (opulation wise I meant)
2018-02-26T01:31:02 < aandrew> opulation?
2018-02-26T01:31:13 < zyp> hmm, not sure
2018-02-26T01:31:44 < zyp> there's 23k in the municipality, can't find any more specific numbers than that
2018-02-26T01:38:37 < karlp> that seems small to have a "bunch" of software companies.
2018-02-26T01:38:40 < karlp> who are they servicing?
2018-02-26T01:39:44 < zyp> uh, in my experience, customers of software companies don't tend to be very local
2018-02-26T01:40:48 < zyp> I looked at some statistics, seems like 15-20% of the working residents of the municipality don't actually work in the municipality
2018-02-26T01:41:26 < karlp> fucking git
2018-02-26T01:41:30 < karlp> git checkout new branch
2018-02-26T01:41:33 < branjb> anyone ever heard of the parallella?
2018-02-26T01:41:35 < karlp> git cherry-pick x.
2018-02-26T01:41:41 < karlp> git rebase on oringal checkout point.
2018-02-26T01:41:41 < zyp> branjb, I have one
2018-02-26T01:41:51 < karlp> end up having to redo the same merge failures from the fucking cherry-pick
2018-02-26T01:41:57 < branjb> how easy is it to get linux up and running on it?
2018-02-26T01:42:08 < zyp> karlp, arendal has a population of 45k, 20 km to the east, kristiansand has a population of 90k, 50 km to the west
2018-02-26T01:42:25 < branjb> can you isolate each of the cores to have a single dedicated thread running on it?
2018-02-26T01:43:12 < zyp> karlp, there's probably a population of like 170k living within a 30-40 minute radius
2018-02-26T01:43:24 < zyp> branjb, dunno, never tried
2018-02-26T01:43:39 < zyp> got it from the kickstarter, threw it in a box and forgot about it
2018-02-26T01:43:44 < branjb> lol
2018-02-26T01:44:45 < zyp> I assume getting it up and running consists of downloading an image, putting it on an sdcard, plugging it in and powering it up
2018-02-26T01:45:00 < branjb> the documentation for it seems like shit
2018-02-26T01:45:27 < zyp> remember that linux runs on the A9 cores in the zynq, not on the epiphany chip
2018-02-26T01:45:54 < zyp> IIRC the epiphany chip is usually programmed through openmpi or similar stuff
2018-02-26T01:48:11 < branjb> can you directly design HDL for the fpga or does the system reserve it?
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2018-02-26T01:53:42 < Rob235> what dremel thing can I use to cut a 3mm stainless steel (I'm guessing) rod?
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2018-02-26T02:16:18 < Rob235> cut right through it
2018-02-26T02:16:46 < Rob235> I'm happy I didn't set the house on fire with the sparks :)
2018-02-26T02:19:34 < jadew> zyp, do you remember having any issues with slic3r saying it has successfully sent the g-code to the octoprint server but nothing happening?
2018-02-26T02:21:08 < jadew> the octoprint log shows that it received the data
2018-02-26T02:21:46 < Rob235> maybe it just stores the file and you have to tell it to print from octoprint's UI?
2018-02-26T02:21:57 < jadew> I'll check
2018-02-26T02:22:14 < jadew> yep
2018-02-26T02:22:17 < jadew> that's what happens
2018-02-26T02:29:21 < jadew> apparently there was an issue with my settings, the gcode included some drawings at -3 on the Y axis and I had to let it know that the printer can do it
2018-02-26T02:29:35 < Rob235> ahh
2018-02-26T02:30:05 < jadew> it still doesn't automatically start, but I guess there's a setting somewhere so I'm looking for that now
2018-02-26T02:33:39 < jadew> hmm, apparently there should be a dialog in slic3r asking me if I want to start the print, but there isn't
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2018-02-26T04:05:05 < dongs> zyp: what! where's built in sdram version
2018-02-26T04:06:00 < dongs> last i looked they all needed external ddr
2018-02-26T04:07:43 < dongs> what the fuck microchip must reall suck cock with SEO
2018-02-26T04:07:49 < dongs> i cant even fidn main sama5 page on google
2018-02-26T04:07:54 < dongs> just fucking datasheets and digikey links
2018-02-26T04:08:09 < dongs> oh i guess no longer atmel makes more sense to search for
2018-02-26T04:18:38 < dongs> qyx: samples are 4 bucks
2018-02-26T04:19:10 < dongs> (LT8609
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2018-02-26T05:18:33 < jadew> ffs... there's an issue in OpenSCAD and the developers closed it and dismissed it on several occasions, because it's the way it works, so it's not a problem
2018-02-26T05:18:49 < jadew> in their view, this is not a problem to be fixed: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/FAQ#/media/File:OpenSCAD-z-fighting.png
2018-02-26T05:19:03 < jadew> cuz you know... it's because of how some library works
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2018-02-26T05:51:37 < dongs> > open
2018-02-26T05:51:45 < dongs> found your fucking problem
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2018-02-26T07:27:18 < dongs>  Fancy supporting this year's event? Drop us a line to sponsor@freenode.live and we'll figure something out!
2018-02-26T07:27:21 < dongs>           See you in Bristol in November!
2018-02-26T07:27:28 < dongs> i wonder if they will consider unjuping my nick
2018-02-26T07:27:29 < dongs> if I email there
2018-02-26T07:27:36 < dongs> complaining that I've spent nearly a year asking admins
2018-02-26T07:27:46 < dongs> and this is the main reason why I am not willing to donate tot heir event
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2018-02-26T09:19:33 < kakimir> I plan to donate to kicad project
2018-02-26T09:27:27 < dongs> spend that money on getting a copy of altium instead
2018-02-26T09:28:50 < kakimir> I donate and write in the message "stop breaking kicad"
2018-02-26T09:29:01 < kakimir> money well spent
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2018-02-26T10:22:12 < zyp> dongs, http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/en/ATSAMA5D27C-D1G
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2018-02-26T10:34:47 < kakimir> what are you doing?
2018-02-26T10:36:38 < Tectu> waking up, you?
2018-02-26T10:40:36 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ku7I3hA3AA
2018-02-26T10:41:06 < qyx> dongs: quite cheap, txh
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2018-02-26T11:02:50 < stvn> ring ring stffn
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2018-02-26T11:07:44 < stvn> yeah muscles
2018-02-26T11:12:04 < Steffanx> -_-
2018-02-26T11:12:08 < stvn> +_+
2018-02-26T11:12:13 < stvn> sarp electron face
2018-02-26T11:16:46 < stvn> are you a pro kicad user sir?
2018-02-26T11:40:18 < dongs> zyp, much thanks.
2018-02-26T11:40:18 < dongs> hmm
2018-02-26T11:49:32 < kakimir> what does L mean in TSSOP20L?
2018-02-26T11:50:00 < dongs> so i ahve a board wiht F302RB, USART1 is connected to 485 and also to a breakout socket for production programming. There's also another 485 on PA2/PB4 (USART2), which was originally on PA2/PA3, but moved off there to PB4 due to 3.3V tolerance problem. Now on the moved board, usart BL doesnt work. AN2606 says PD5/6 are altmode pins for USART2, so i donno wtf is going on
2018-02-26T11:50:11 < dongs> lame
2018-02-26T11:51:53 < stvn> ^
2018-02-26T11:51:59 < stvn> or LED
2018-02-26T11:52:55 < qyx> what is usart BL
2018-02-26T11:53:42 < dongs> qyx, the rom bootlaoder in AN2606
2018-02-26T11:57:35 < dongs> i confirmed it actually jumps to bl
2018-02-26T11:57:37 < dongs> and idles in it
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2018-02-26T14:24:53 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=171&v=GYLBjScgb7o
2018-02-26T14:25:15 < zyp> dongs, uh, did you send me a DHL package?
2018-02-26T14:26:27 < zyp> I just got a message from DHL that they've got a package for me, and I'm not expecting any
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2018-02-26T14:41:44 < qyx> isnt it as cam
2018-02-26T14:41:47 < qyx> scam
2018-02-26T14:42:07 < qyx> I got one today too
2018-02-26T14:42:36 < qyx> with a possible malware in a .ace file included
2018-02-26T14:43:41 < Steffanx> No waffles for zyp
2018-02-26T14:45:20 < zyp> ah, it's my MAXAUTHDEMO1 kit
2018-02-26T14:45:29 < zyp> forgot about that
2018-02-26T14:48:47 < karlp> hooray! it arrived
2018-02-26T14:48:54  * karlp peers at the one sitting idly on his desk
2018-02-26T14:55:42 < englishman> good morning fellow innovators and stm8 pros
2018-02-26T14:56:37 < zyp> karlp, hey, free usb cable if nothing else
2018-02-26T14:56:42 < zyp> can't get too many of those
2018-02-26T14:57:09 < karlp> I need to get new hubs though
2018-02-26T14:57:20 < karlp> too many fucking boards now.
2018-02-26T14:57:58 < karlp> at least st is putting proper serials in all the stlink2.1s
2018-02-26T15:05:05 < Steffanx> Stm8s is dead englishman
2018-02-26T15:06:08 < Steffanx> All major supplier seem to be out of stock for the 003something
2018-02-26T15:07:15 < englishman> don't be mean Steffy
2018-02-26T15:07:36 < Steffanx> Im not mean
2018-02-26T15:08:01 < Steffanx> Hows beaverpost doing?
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2018-02-26T15:32:20 < englishman> dead, as usual
2018-02-26T15:32:42 < englishman> guess who has 2500 stock of STM8S003F3
2018-02-26T15:33:05 < englishman> il give you a hint: their website is still broken
2018-02-26T15:34:37 < englishman> lol, in the public webstore there's 2700 stock, in the VIP-only special price website there's 0 avil
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2018-02-26T16:18:03 < Steffanx> Whats going on with the stm8s englishman ?
2018-02-26T16:18:24 < englishman> maybe the next arduino is stm8, and they bought them all
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2018-02-26T16:28:23 < Thorn> I may soon run out of my stm8 stock :/
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2018-02-26T16:29:02 < Steffanx> Yeah. Fuckers
2018-02-26T16:29:08 < Steffanx> Whats wrong..
2018-02-26T16:30:48 < englishman> Thorn qfn or soic
2018-02-26T16:31:02 < Thorn> tssop
2018-02-26T16:31:19 < englishman> k
2018-02-26T16:37:32 < Thorn> maybe someone who has contact with ST reps could ask them
2018-02-26T16:44:16 < aandrew> Thorn: with luck, you can run out of STM8 sooner than later
2018-02-26T16:44:32 < aandrew> rip off that bandaid instead of peeling it back slowly :-)
2018-02-26T16:45:33 < Thorn> what new bandaid am I supposed to use instead
2018-02-26T16:45:53 < Thorn> I got my s003 for ~$0.25 apiece
2018-02-26T16:46:43 < Thorn> and it works, I learned it and the tools, have working code etc.
2018-02-26T16:58:09 < englishman> aandrew doesnt use any mcu that costs less than $15
2018-02-26T16:58:38 < aandrew> that's not true
2018-02-26T16:58:55 < aandrew> I'm using a $0.09 8051 on a project
2018-02-26T16:59:40 < englishman> does 8051 count as a MCU? or a FET array
2018-02-26T16:59:50 < Thorn> <aandrew> in a $750 fpga
2018-02-26T17:01:58 < qyx> englishman: have you started that 6lowpan thing yet
2018-02-26T17:02:28 < aandrew> englishman: :-)
2018-02-26T17:02:34 < aandrew> Thorn: hahaha
2018-02-26T17:02:53 < qyx> I have read some papers only so far
2018-02-26T17:03:10 < englishman> no :(
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2018-02-26T17:28:26 < qyx> zyp: re edison, intel compute card - have you seen it?
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2018-02-26T17:30:48 < zyp> not until I googled it now
2018-02-26T17:31:05 < zyp> but I've seen their other thing that looked like a successor to edison
2018-02-26T17:31:06 < Steffanx> Linky?
2018-02-26T17:31:12 < zyp> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/boards-kits/compute-card.html
2018-02-26T17:32:12 < zyp> at the first glance, compute card looks like a way to make stuff like upgradeable infotainment systems in cars
2018-02-26T17:32:40 < zyp> i.e. once it's a few years old and newer shit exists, just pull out the module and plug in a newer one
2018-02-26T17:33:03 < zyp> given that the interface standard will last
2018-02-26T17:36:46 < zyp> hmm, mouser stocks them, $182 for cheapest, $656 for most expensive variant
2018-02-26T17:40:21 < zyp> "The Intel® Compute Card and any device with a compatible slot for the Intel® Compute Card will use
2018-02-26T17:40:24 < zyp> bidirectional authentication."
2018-02-26T17:40:36 < zyp> so you can't just hook them up to whatever
2018-02-26T17:41:04 < Steffanx> Hmm
2018-02-26T17:41:29 < zyp> this is more like a NUC in a module than an edison
2018-02-26T17:43:27 < zyp> interface seems to be an extension of usb-c
2018-02-26T17:46:15 < zyp> even uses usb-pd for the 12V power supply
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2018-02-26T17:55:33 < Steffanx> HELLO WELCOME
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2018-02-26T17:58:28 < Steffanx> No news
2018-02-26T17:58:40 < Steffanx> Except that i fixed a bug today
2018-02-26T17:58:46 < Steffanx> SUCH news
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2018-02-26T18:31:32 < qyx> y u do virtualenv
2018-02-26T18:38:10 < karlp> because it's almost always better than hoping your system python packages will match
2018-02-26T18:38:36 < karlp> you get into problems with packages that specify just the name of a package they depend on, and that upstream updates and changes apis willy nilly
2018-02-26T18:38:49 < karlp> at least with a virtualenv yu can just easily nuke it and try installing backrevs easily
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2018-02-26T18:52:19 < Laurenceb> https://bp.langweiledich.net/CDLXXXVII/LangweileDich.net_Bilderparade_CDLXXXVII_20.gif
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2018-02-26T19:05:08 < sync> Laurenceb: like 3 internet years old
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2018-02-26T19:40:39 < Laurenceb> reee
2018-02-26T19:40:44 < Laurenceb> stupid cobra dashcam
2018-02-26T19:40:50 < Laurenceb> no gps in exif data
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2018-02-26T19:42:26 < Steffanx> Hows the theory exam going Laurenceb?
2018-02-26T19:43:57 < Laurenceb> their app doesnt work in wine
2018-02-26T19:43:58 < Laurenceb> reeee
2018-02-26T19:46:07 < Laurenceb> wtf its GPL
2018-02-26T19:46:12 < Laurenceb> maybe I can compile
2018-02-26T19:46:32 < Laurenceb> Yoyodyne Inc
2018-02-26T19:46:57 < Laurenceb> Yoyodyne was introduced as a fictional defense contractor in Thomas Pynchon's V. (1963)
2018-02-26T19:47:00 < Steffanx> thats not what gpl means
2018-02-26T19:47:01 < Laurenceb> are they trolling me
2018-02-26T19:47:15 < Steffanx> especially not for stuff like that
2018-02-26T19:47:31 < Laurenceb> this might be some sort of troll
2018-02-26T19:47:53 < Steffanx> you entire life is a troll right?
2018-02-26T19:47:56 < Laurenceb> yes
2018-02-26T19:48:09 < Laurenceb> hmm maybe I should try to get it to load in wine
2018-02-26T19:48:23 < Steffanx> or run a real os
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2018-02-26T20:54:33 < kakimir> snus boi
2018-02-26T20:59:42 < Steffanx> kawaimir.
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2018-02-26T21:10:01 < stvn> good morning Steffanx
2018-02-26T21:14:02 < englishman> why does stvn use lunix?
2018-02-26T21:14:09 < englishman> because it's the only root he's had in years
2018-02-26T21:14:14 < englishman> ^ oz joke
2018-02-26T21:16:39 < stvn> gooday fokes
2018-02-26T21:16:46 < stvn> he's in like flynn!
2018-02-26T21:21:54 < Steffanx> lo mr steven.
2018-02-26T21:22:17 < stvn> well hallo
2018-02-26T21:22:25 < Steffanx> Why so early?
2018-02-26T21:23:25 < stvn> a lot of pumping to do
2018-02-26T21:24:07 < stvn> proto-fuckers
2018-02-26T21:24:30 < Steffanx> aha
2018-02-26T21:29:23 < stvn> got any dj cd players you need fixed
2018-02-26T21:29:25 < stvn> (jk)
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2018-02-26T22:13:10 < Laurenceb> anyone here used ruby?
2018-02-26T22:13:17 < Laurenceb> I dont even know how it works...
2018-02-26T22:13:25 < Laurenceb> apparently I missing a package called YAML
2018-02-26T22:15:43 < zyp> ruby is like the bastard child between python and perl
2018-02-26T22:15:47 < Laurenceb> yeah
2018-02-26T22:16:01 < Laurenceb> does it have its own package manager or something?>
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2018-02-26T22:16:08 < zyp> yes
2018-02-26T22:16:12 < Laurenceb> oh wow
2018-02-26T22:16:23 < Laurenceb> whyyy
2018-02-26T22:16:23 < zyp> it's called rake or something, packages are called gems
2018-02-26T22:16:26 < Laurenceb> oh my god
2018-02-26T22:16:55 < zyp> you know, all cool languages nowadays need to have their own package managers
2018-02-26T22:17:16 < kaa> I'm glad you are here Laurenceb
2018-02-26T22:17:20 < Laurenceb> maybe I should just rewrite this script in a sane language
2018-02-26T22:19:54 < Laurenceb> oh wow wut
2018-02-26T22:20:11 < Laurenceb> this ruby script extracts dashcam gps
2018-02-26T22:20:20 < Laurenceb> I see the gps data now, what a nasty hack
2018-02-26T22:20:38 < Laurenceb> >Next Track ID                   : 3
2018-02-26T22:21:08 < Laurenceb> >Track Create Date               : <secret>:07:<secret> 14:<secret>:<secret>
2018-02-26T22:21:34 < Laurenceb> gps is encoded in creation time of shit tons of empty audio tracks
2018-02-26T22:21:54 < Laurenceb> thats more silly than ruby package manager
2018-02-26T22:22:30 < englishman> jesus christ
2018-02-26T22:22:37 < englishman> paid gmail doesnt allow pcb fab to send me email
2018-02-26T22:22:40 < Laurenceb> I could probably rewrite this in matlab+ffmpeg lol
2018-02-26T22:22:44 < englishman> because gerbers have .mst extension
2018-02-26T22:22:53 < englishman> and .mst extension is blocked from attachments
2018-02-26T22:23:09 < englishman> paid gmail doesnt have any option to allow this
2018-02-26T22:23:10 < Laurenceb> crazy chinese firmware haxors
2018-02-26T22:23:25 < Laurenceb> I note there is no gps in the jpg exif
2018-02-26T22:23:27 < Laurenceb> whyyyyy
2018-02-26T22:38:48 < kaa> how long spark gap to use for 230V mains operated device?
2018-02-26T22:41:29 < Steffanx> none
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2018-02-26T22:57:41 < jadew> I have some overhang that keeps curling up - how can I stop that?
2018-02-26T22:58:29 < kaa> what does that mean?
2018-02-26T22:58:52 < jadew> kaa, 3d printing issue
2018-02-26T22:59:41 < kaa> I need a movie
2018-02-26T22:59:43 < kaa> action
2018-02-26T23:01:59 < jadew> me too
2018-02-26T23:02:09 < jadew> on the action movie
2018-02-26T23:02:12 < kaa> swedish drama
2018-02-26T23:04:18 < Tectu> blog dem saunas
2018-02-26T23:04:47 < zyp> jadew, PLA?
2018-02-26T23:04:53 < jadew> zyp, yeah
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2018-02-26T23:04:58 < zyp> more cooling
2018-02-26T23:05:18 < zyp> have you tried printing benchy yet?
2018-02-26T23:05:21 < jadew> hmm, I'll see what I can do
2018-02-26T23:05:22 < jadew> no
2018-02-26T23:05:25 < jadew> should I?
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2018-02-26T23:06:15 < zyp> it's a decent test of how well you've tuned it
2018-02-26T23:06:55 < jadew> I wonder if the PLA I have now has substantially different properties than what's considered the norm
2018-02-26T23:07:10 < kaa> englishman, how is your sauna planning going?
2018-02-26T23:07:14 < kaa> it's the sauna season
2018-02-26T23:07:28 < jadew> I'll try with the PLA it came with (because it yielded good results all the time) and also print a benchy with it
2018-02-26T23:07:34 < jadew> then I'll print another one with the current PLA
2018-02-26T23:07:35 < kaa> plan to have a sauna in next winter at least?
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2018-02-26T23:08:14 < BrainDamage> kaa: dracula untold wasn't too bad
2018-02-26T23:09:44 < zyp> jadew, my understanding is that the grey filament it comes with is good quality, it seems to be common to have a lot better results with that than other random filament
2018-02-26T23:12:20 < kaa> I forgot * spy action
2018-02-26T23:12:40 < BrainDamage> spy kids
2018-02-26T23:13:09 < kaa> yes
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2018-02-26T23:14:14 < jadew> zyp, yeah, I think that's the case
2018-02-26T23:15:09 < Steffanx> It's not only about quality. Proper printing temperatures might vary a bit.
2018-02-26T23:15:10 < jadew> nothing yet, just made some curtain stoppers yesterday and a plastic bearing to fix a piece of furniture
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2018-02-26T23:17:29 < jadew> I guess I'll have to make my own gcode thingie to test overhangs and all that at various temperatures
2018-02-26T23:17:48 < zyp> what temp are you printing?
2018-02-26T23:18:01 < jadew> 215 first layer, 210 the others
2018-02-26T23:18:15 < zyp> that's way too hot
2018-02-26T23:18:18 < zyp> try 180
2018-02-26T23:18:30 < jadew> good to know, thanks, I will
2018-02-26T23:18:42 < zyp> or, idk, lemme ask
2018-02-26T23:20:31 < zyp> not sure my pal is online
2018-02-26T23:20:55 < zyp> probably depends on the particular PLA as well
2018-02-26T23:21:01 < zyp> but I think I printed mine at 180
2018-02-26T23:21:09 < Steffanx> Way too hot? PLA i use is 190-210
2018-02-26T23:21:12 < Steffanx> C
2018-02-26T23:23:48 < zyp> hmm, looks like I remembered wrong, looks like I used 195/190 when I were printing PLA
2018-02-26T23:24:50 < zyp> 240 for PETG
2018-02-26T23:25:40 < zyp> PETG is betterest
2018-02-26T23:26:06 < zyp> depends what properties you want, really
2018-02-26T23:26:50 < zyp> PLA is cheaper and usually the easiest to print, but I don't like how brittle it is
2018-02-26T23:27:49 < zyp> PETG is more flexible, but it's a lot more runny when melted, so it's harder to get good overhangs with it
2018-02-26T23:28:25 < zyp> usually not
2018-02-26T23:29:05 < Steffanx> almost sounds like crt is a real printer
2018-02-26T23:29:37 < Steffanx> We get to know crt better every day :D
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2018-02-26T23:52:53 < jadew> this is what I'm trying to print
2018-02-26T23:52:56 < jadew> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2719434
2018-02-26T23:53:26 < englishman> kaa: sauna planning going well, the grey cat has given a lot of helpful input
2018-02-26T23:53:56 < kaa> also cats like sauna if they learn to go there
2018-02-26T23:54:25 < jadew> night
2018-02-26T23:55:00 < englishman> yes that is why we have involved the cat from the start
2018-02-26T23:55:03 < jef79m> ooh englishman I have a sauna too. i never use it. it stores the kids pool toys. :(
2018-02-26T23:55:24 < englishman> jef79m: i hear you lost your original "jef" nick in a game of 2-up
2018-02-26T23:55:37 < jadew> superbia, maybe we can work out an arrangement, I could lend him my excavator
2018-02-26T23:55:42 < jef79m> yeah. its not all i lost
2018-02-26T23:56:15 < jadew> not gonna print the egg
2018-02-26T23:56:19 < englishman> sauna and pool, sounds like you have upgraded quite a bit from the ceiling of a bar
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2018-02-27T00:00:53 < Rob235> my whole body hurts, 22 little holes finished in this horrible tile
2018-02-27T00:01:01 < Rob235> I need to get a drill press at some point
2018-02-27T00:01:59 < Rob235> went through 3 drill bits
2018-02-27T00:02:24 < jadew> I put 24 holes in concrete today
2018-02-27T00:02:36 < jadew> first time I did that
2018-02-27T00:02:50 < jadew> initally I started with a metal drill bit - didn't work
2018-02-27T00:03:03 < Rob235> what did you use
2018-02-27T00:03:12 < jadew> I had to go buy a special drill bit
2018-02-27T00:03:30 < jadew> but I think it was made for a different type of chuck
2018-02-27T00:03:36 < jadew> because it was wobbly
2018-02-27T00:03:42 < Rob235> that doesnt sound safe hah
2018-02-27T00:03:46 < jadew> so the holes are now random diameters
2018-02-27T00:04:09 < kaa> englishman, https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7hDqd7b4lnQ/SOSQ5oU4ocI/AAAAAAAAAT0/7IC9JV0TJ7Q/s1600/10.jpg cats approve
2018-02-27T00:04:29 < jadew> I have to go get various screws tomorrow and use the biggest one that fits in every hole
2018-02-27T00:04:41 < jadew> otherwise my wife's shelves are not going to be very reliable
2018-02-27T00:06:21 < jadew> I have more holes to drill tomorrow
2018-02-27T00:06:25 < jadew> bigger ones
2018-02-27T00:06:34 < kaa> usually electric boiler is placed under the bench and floor is usually heated too so sauna is warm even when it's not warm
2018-02-27T00:06:36 < jadew> my neighbours are going to hate me
2018-02-27T00:10:07 < jadew> the print failed again...
2018-02-27T00:10:11 < jadew> this time the overhang was fine
2018-02-27T00:10:22 < jadew> but a piece of the thing came loose
2018-02-27T00:11:25 < englishman> kaa: :3
2018-02-27T00:11:53 < kaa> so cats will always look if the door is open to sauna
2018-02-27T00:13:12 < Rob235> what are you printing, and what kinda of plastic on what surface
2018-02-27T00:13:25 < Rob235> I usually have to pry the prints off
2018-02-27T00:15:03 < jef79m> englishman: new office https://i.imgur.com/ZWsfxrh.jpg
2018-02-27T00:15:11 < jef79m> much better than the pub.
2018-02-27T00:15:24 < Steffanx> Nice pool
2018-02-27T00:15:46 < Steffanx> Rob235: thats why those ikea mirrors are great
2018-02-27T00:15:51 < englishman> jef79m: nice.
2018-02-27T00:16:01 < Steffanx> Just swap em ( i dont do that but.. you can )
2018-02-27T00:16:13 < englishman> comfortable looking patio.
2018-02-27T00:16:19 < Rob235> I'm gonna go to lowes, they have glass for $3.98 thats they cut
2018-02-27T00:17:27 < Rob235> or at least their website says they will cut it to size. I hope the store by me does
2018-02-27T00:17:38 < englishman> jef79m: i also upgraded my office https://i.imgur.com/cN5k6LD.jpg
2018-02-27T00:18:23 < jef79m> wooo. so green. everything has been brown here.
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2018-02-27T00:20:14 < englishman> oh, it doesnt look like that now. https://i.imgur.com/95YrDQj.jpg
2018-02-27T00:20:33 < Steffanx> And a shed appeared
2018-02-27T00:20:57 < jef79m> wow.
2018-02-27T00:21:00 < englishman> i keep the waffels there
2018-02-27T00:21:39 < Steffanx> Yeah better keep them away from englishwife
2018-02-27T00:21:40 < jef79m> I need a waffle shed.
2018-02-27T00:21:51 < kaa> jef79m, where is all the crap?
2018-02-27T00:24:36 < jef79m> kaa: you got me, that was my "pro" office. this is my real office https://imgur.com/a/aLoIQ
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2018-02-27T00:30:08 < kaa> so what is that you do?
2018-02-27T00:31:40 < jef79m> software nerd.
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2018-02-27T00:42:07 < kaa> silicon valley?
2018-02-27T00:42:56 < sync> gotta snip them ducks englishman
2018-02-27T00:43:06 < englishman> soon
2018-02-27T00:43:25 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/R2NU8KB.jpg
2018-02-27T00:45:26 < jef79m> kaa: no way. hunter valley. Aus.
2018-02-27T00:46:13 < jef79m> theyre just sitting there. Like sitting ...
2018-02-27T00:46:15 < Steffanx> jef79m as in teapot land?
2018-02-27T00:46:31 < jef79m> Steffanx: ?
2018-02-27T00:46:31 < Steffanx> The aka aussieland
2018-02-27T00:46:37 < jef79m> yeah.
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2018-02-27T00:46:52 < kaa> coal mining, horse breeding
2018-02-27T00:47:06 < jef79m> kaa: wine.
2018-02-27T00:47:09 < Steffanx> This one aussie refers to his fellow aussies as "teapots" jef79m
2018-02-27T00:47:24 < Steffanx> He is also known as crt or stvn
2018-02-27T00:47:32 < jef79m> Steffanx: I've never heard that.
2018-02-27T00:47:48 < kaa> yes wine
2018-02-27T00:48:46 < kaa> englishman, nice tele picture of the dinner
2018-02-27T00:49:35 < sync> dem chromatic abberations
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2018-02-27T01:18:49 < englishman> sync: yeah, dont get much scope for $650
2018-02-27T01:19:06 < englishman> but it is harshest possible white/black edge
2018-02-27T01:21:28 < sync> yeah, a friend of mine had a budget nikon bino and it looked about as bad as my chinese one
2018-02-27T01:23:06 < englishman> http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-diamondback-20-60x80-angled-spotting-scope
2018-02-27T01:23:14 < englishman> scope is this
2018-02-27T01:23:15 < englishman> got it at a boxing day sale
2018-02-27T01:23:35 < englishman> works OK for looking at holes in paper. certainly isnt anywhere near 80x
2018-02-27T01:23:43 < englishman> err 60x
2018-02-27T01:24:52 < sync> I guess
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2018-02-27T02:59:05 < dongs> zyp: not that I know of
2018-02-27T02:59:13 < dongs> it was EMS, tracking is in email
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2018-02-27T03:18:45 < aandrew> http://www.celebtricity.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/IMG_1970-400x240.jpg <-- jadew's new gf
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2018-02-27T03:35:45 < blacktronics> Bois how do i remove stuff from the watch tab in keil
2018-02-27T03:36:29 < dongs> pause execution and delete it
2018-02-27T03:36:53 < blacktronics> Oh i have to pause to delete
2018-02-27T03:36:56 < dongs> yes
2018-02-27T03:36:58 < blacktronics> Makes sense
2018-02-27T03:37:08 < blacktronics> Thanks <3
2018-02-27T03:37:37 < dongs> np, keil pro 4 lyfe
2018-02-27T03:38:20 < blacktronics> Vape keil flavour
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2018-02-27T03:54:20 < aandrew> lol
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2018-02-27T04:34:18 < aandrew> huh
2018-02-27T04:34:36 < aandrew> little tip for you fellow STM32ers... not my question or my answer, but a good thing to sock away for some future bug: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/76299/stm32-interrupt-priority-preemption-problems
2018-02-27T04:34:51 < aandrew> mind you why you'd write code the way they described ... <shudders>
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2018-02-27T06:01:22 < dongs> holy fucking shit is MSP430 garbage or something
2018-02-27T06:01:30 < dongs> apparently setting pins to input, floating, INCREASES power consumption
2018-02-27T06:01:32 < dongs> da fuq?
2018-02-27T06:09:15 < dongs> FUck
2018-02-27T06:09:24 < dongs> altifuck18 completely fucking trashed place component in PCB
2018-02-27T06:09:28 < dongs> opens in bullshit narrow fucking sidebar
2018-02-27T06:09:30 < dongs> fucking faggots
2018-02-27T06:09:32 < dongs> fuck
2018-02-27T06:09:40 < dongs> not paying my fucking renewal next year
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2018-02-27T07:08:17 < Thorn> does stm8s103f2 have 4 or 8 Kbytes of flash? http://www.st.com/en/microcontrollers/stm8s103f2.html
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2018-02-27T08:22:00 < dongs> it says 8K
2018-02-27T08:34:12 < dongs> I am reviewing law student applications for a summer internship/clerkship position at a large public law firm. One applicant included, among other standard experience stuff, that he was a "Co-Leader of a Young Men’s Sexual Purity Accountability Group" during his undergrad years.
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2018-02-27T08:48:38 < dongs> pump and dump
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2018-02-27T09:51:35 < Steffanx> crt0.o
2018-02-27T09:52:28 < Steffanx> Better tell your fellow aussie jef79m what a teapot is
2018-02-27T09:52:33 < Steffanx> He doesnt know
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2018-02-27T10:46:10 < karlp> no, it doesn't make sense that you have to pause execution to delete a watchpoint. no sense at all.
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2018-02-27T11:10:25 < zyp> depends on the debugger
2018-02-27T11:10:35 < zyp> some blocks while executing
2018-02-27T11:15:01 < karlp> still no reason to not that be automatic when you delete the watchpoint in the ui
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2018-02-27T12:28:19 < Thorn> sdcc 3.7.0 released a few hours ago
2018-02-27T12:36:35 < Kerr-A_> I know this is a bit late, but lmao dongs, re: sexual purity group experience.
2018-02-27T12:37:17 < Kerr-A_> I swear, religous people seriously think people care about that type of thing. "Oh yes, you've never had sex; you are more qualified!"
2018-02-27T12:41:11 < jadew> is there a link for that?
2018-02-27T12:52:29 < tomeaton17> https://i.imgur.com/HAZ3WOU.gifv
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2018-02-27T12:56:59 < qyx> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/software-architecture/Convert-Code-MISRA-Compliant-Code/
2018-02-27T12:57:03 < qyx> haha
2018-02-27T12:57:05 < qyx> good luck
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2018-02-27T13:02:57 < sync> I mean why not, but 1k is like one day of consulting? o0
2018-02-27T13:03:35 < dongs> at least its not $10-30 budget
2018-02-27T13:03:46 < dongs> can fuckfs even be made misra-compliant
2018-02-27T13:03:55 < dongs> i thought it was buggy jap code all over
2018-02-27T13:05:25 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/request-hdmi-schematics-display-devices-16379062/ ???
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2018-02-27T14:02:08 < tomeaton17> At the moment I am configuring cell count according to this table with jumpers https://i.imgur.com/U4wxUlR.png, would it be possible to (easily) do this automatically?
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2018-02-27T14:14:35 < qyx> how automatically?
2018-02-27T14:16:11 < qyx> I don't think there is anything to automate, your battery pack "topology" defines it
2018-02-27T14:16:30 < qyx> or better the other way around, the bq chip defines how should be the battery pack wires
2018-02-27T14:16:36 < qyx> wired
2018-02-27T14:18:01 < qyx> the method is dumb though, LT has a monitor/balancer which can have the cells connected one by one without shorts on some terminals
2018-02-27T14:18:20 < qyx> this allows you to connect battery pack with arbitrary number of cells and read that info using I2C
2018-02-27T14:18:23 < qyx> or SPI
2018-02-27T14:19:25 < qyx> anyway, I was reading the BQ datasheet recently and I didn't find any reason for shorting the defined locations
2018-02-27T14:20:12 < qyx> I would try shorting eg. VC3, VC4 and VC5 together (pack+) for a 3 cell pack
2018-02-27T14:20:31 < qyx> some smoke might be released though
2018-02-27T14:29:22 < tomeaton17> I wanted to make it so that it can be automatically detected the cell count, and then short the required pins. Probably could be done with logic gates, but not really necessary
2018-02-27T14:30:28 < qyx> surely not with logic gates
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2018-02-27T15:35:28 < Laurenceb> reeee
2018-02-27T15:35:33 < Laurenceb> stupid dashcams
2018-02-27T15:35:49 < Laurenceb> this dashcam is actually saner, looks like the gps is in its own area
2018-02-27T15:36:03 < Laurenceb> Atom gps0 @ 92137429 of size: 2024, ends @ 92139453
2018-02-27T15:36:13 < Laurenceb> but I cant work out how its packed
2018-02-27T15:38:08 < sync> why are you even dashcamming?
2018-02-27T15:40:05 < Laurenceb> waaambulance
2018-02-27T15:41:04 < Laurenceb> cant paste the hex cuz then ud find my house
2018-02-27T15:41:05 < Laurenceb> grrrr
2018-02-27T15:41:30 < Laurenceb> maybe they xor the data
2018-02-27T15:41:42 < Laurenceb> but its repeating in lengths that match 1hz
2018-02-27T15:42:31 < Laurenceb> I should post it on /b/ and wait to get swatted
2018-02-27T15:43:10 < Laurenceb> is it likely to be big or little endian?
2018-02-27T15:45:07 < Laurenceb> maybe they went full retard with degrees/minutes/seconds
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2018-02-27T16:14:27 < day> dongs: Dear customer, We are service base engineering startup, based in India. we have good professional expertise
2018-02-27T16:14:30 < day> bahhaha
2018-02-27T16:15:11 < day> do they ask for 1000USD/day for 20days? or do they ask for 1000USD and deliver in 20days?
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2018-02-27T16:43:35 < Laurenceb> muh dashcam
2018-02-27T16:44:41 < Laurenceb> wew https://www.infowarsstore.com/dna-force.html?ims=fstuz&utm_campaign=Infowars+Homepage+Widget&utm_source=Infowars+Widget&utm_medium=Banner&utm_content=DNA+Force
2018-02-27T16:45:22 < Laurenceb> who is trolling who
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2018-02-27T17:41:10 < Laurenceb> oh its using 64 bit floats
2018-02-27T17:41:11 < Laurenceb> wtf
2018-02-27T17:41:13 < Laurenceb> whyyy
2018-02-27T17:45:45 < sync> Why not
2018-02-27T17:46:19 < Laurenceb> i guess if the dsp is 64 bit...
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2018-02-27T18:32:02 < Laurenceb> what the fudge
2018-02-27T18:32:33 < Laurenceb> this dashcam has some sort of RTC alignment routine that shits loads of debug info out into the .MOV
2018-02-27T18:32:37 < Laurenceb> so maxor
2018-02-27T18:32:40 < Laurenceb> *haxor
2018-02-27T18:33:07 < Laurenceb> a 14 bit timer that it tries to align to UTC minutes
2018-02-27T18:33:28 < Laurenceb> so much shit in the log data
2018-02-27T18:34:12 < kakimir> fudge
2018-02-27T18:34:18 < kakimir> gimmi movies
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2018-02-27T18:36:13 < Tectu> PaulFertser, what's the story on the polling interval of 6300ms in openocd? why such an odd value?
2018-02-27T18:39:06 < karlp> it's probably just asome side effect of algorithmic backoff coupled with pershaps an off by 1.
2018-02-27T18:39:34 < karlp> you see that it doesn't start at 6300
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2018-02-27T19:33:01 < Laurenceb> accel data is only at 2hz
2018-02-27T19:33:02 < Laurenceb> lame
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2018-02-27T19:47:50 < aandrew> wow
2018-02-27T19:47:52 < aandrew> this is the first time ever that a mouser order has arrived next day
2018-02-27T19:48:23 < englishman> yeah they have improved their shit greatly
2018-02-27T19:48:27 < englishman> also freeship now
2018-02-27T19:58:39 < Lux> meh, so i found this great ltc4015 smbus lead acid charge ic and now realize i need a gpio output to signal if it's charging without the mcu running
2018-02-27T19:59:28 < Lux> any ideas how to ghetto up a circuit to light a led if current it flowing through a high side shunt ?
2018-02-27T20:00:35 < englishman> just have a led connected to Vin?
2018-02-27T20:00:53 < englishman> or are you looking for charging/completed
2018-02-27T20:00:56 < Lux> but then i just know Vin is there, not if it's actually chraging
2018-02-27T20:01:04 < Lux> I'm looking for charging
2018-02-27T20:01:19 < englishman> if the charger itself doesnt have indicator outputs, probably easiest and most reliable to spin up that mcu
2018-02-27T20:01:48 < Lux> if it was my system design definetly :)
2018-02-27T20:02:08 < Lux> but for some reason my clients want charge indication if you switch all off
2018-02-27T20:02:12 < englishman> maybe you could piggyback off the input fet driver
2018-02-27T20:02:28 < Lux> which includes the mcu
2018-02-27T20:02:41 < Lux> hmm yeah I could rectify the low side fet driver output
2018-02-27T20:02:49 < Lux> and feed that to a comparator
2018-02-27T20:03:13 < Lux> still hacky, but it might even work :)
2018-02-27T20:03:15 < englishman> stm8 powered by Vin
2018-02-27T20:04:15 < Lux> but then you got to program that stuff again, which is a hassle
2018-02-27T20:04:35 < Lux> best case would be to just have an allways on mcu there ofc
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2018-02-27T20:07:54 < englishman> surprised a big spendy LT part like that doesnt have led outputs
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2018-02-27T20:17:49 < qyx> http://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/tidrr85
2018-02-27T20:17:53 < qyx> fuk this sort of schematics
2018-02-27T20:17:59 < qyx> totally useless
2018-02-27T20:18:41 < qyx> it is like uncommented code
2018-02-27T20:19:17 < qyx> full rage
2018-02-27T20:19:26 < qyx> who the hell draws decopupling caps horizontally
2018-02-27T20:20:33 < qyx> a pile of mess
2018-02-27T20:22:51 < aandrew> that's not a bad schematic at all
2018-02-27T20:22:54 < aandrew> you're whining
2018-02-27T20:23:57 < qyx> meh
2018-02-27T20:24:13 < aandrew> want a bad schematic? look at this: https://imgur.com/a/1S5rC
2018-02-27T20:24:56 < aandrew> pin numbers above and below pins, writing every which way, writing over wires, part numbers that are digikey PNs...
2018-02-27T20:25:25 < qyx> I perceive them similarly
2018-02-27T20:25:54 < aandrew> I mean that TI one isn't *great* but it's miles ahead of what I pasted
2018-02-27T20:26:04 < aandrew> the pin numbers both above and below pins really grates on me
2018-02-27T20:26:21 < aandrew> same with the writing over the port indicators.. it's just sloppy
2018-02-27T20:31:40 < Laurenceb> ok
2018-02-27T20:32:32 < Laurenceb> dashcam has pcb temperature, time stamps from gps, 3axis accel but only at 2hz, latitude, longitude, speed and heading at 1hz
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2018-02-27T20:33:13 < Laurenceb> data extract works in methlab
2018-02-27T20:36:19 < Laurenceb> its a bit shit
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2018-02-27T20:42:21 < aandrew> wtf digikey.ca is down (SPDY_ERROR)
2018-02-27T20:43:13 < Laurenceb> spy error
2018-02-27T20:43:44 < aandrew> digikey.com too
2018-02-27T20:43:57 < Steffanx> Yep here too
2018-02-27T20:44:06 < Steffanx> digikey.nl aint
2018-02-27T20:44:13 < aandrew> huh, on one PC it's fine on antoher it's not
2018-02-27T20:44:18 < aandrew> same browser
2018-02-27T20:45:07 < Steffanx> hehe, here it's down in firefox, but not in IE. Probably something spdy
2018-02-27T20:45:13 < Steffanx> *related to
2018-02-27T20:45:46 < Steffanx> oh and here it has issues with the secure connection.
2018-02-27T20:51:32 < qyx> with OCSP turned off it kinda works
2018-02-27T20:51:40 < qyx> it returns 503 instead
2018-02-27T20:52:39 < qyx> ok, no, it is random
2018-02-27T20:56:32 < kakimir> I need a movie for my beer
2018-02-27T20:57:45 < Laurenceb> the future
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2018-02-27T21:11:49 < kakimir> hmm
2018-02-27T21:11:58 < kakimir> did you cry when you watched it?
2018-02-27T21:13:12 < Steffanx> His future is his past. So cryworthy indeed :P
2018-02-27T21:13:37 < kakimir> did you like the movie Steffanx ?
2018-02-27T21:14:43 < Steffanx> oh it was his movie.
2018-02-27T21:14:49 < Steffanx> *a
2018-02-27T21:15:11 < Steffanx> Drama, Fantasy, Romance i'll pass, kakimir
2018-02-27T21:17:00 < kakimir> it looked like a movie I could watch
2018-02-27T21:17:38 < kakimir> but not now
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2018-02-27T21:32:49 < englishman> aandrew: https://www.worksonmymachine.pro/
2018-02-27T21:33:11 < englishman> already got my ordering in today, you snooze you lose
2018-02-27T21:35:12 < Steffanx> You're a bit late, they fixed it mr englishman
2018-02-27T21:35:35 < englishman> you're welcome
2018-02-27T21:35:46 < Steffanx> np
2018-02-27T21:35:50 < Steffanx> you too
2018-02-27T21:45:36 < PaulFertser> jadew: have you considered using http://solvespace.com/index.pl instead of openscad?
2018-02-27T21:45:51 < jadew> PaulFertser, I did and I have
2018-02-27T21:45:58 < jadew> it's limited in many ways
2018-02-27T21:46:22 < c10ud^> FreeCad
2018-02-27T21:46:43 < PaulFertser> jadew: oh, what does openscad allow that solvespace doesn't?
2018-02-27T21:46:43 < jadew> I could never get used to FreeCad
2018-02-27T21:46:58 < jadew> PaulFertser, for example it's a lot easier to make chamfered edges on an object
2018-02-27T21:47:20 < jadew> because you can programatically create the chamfers you need
2018-02-27T21:48:04 < jadew> if I want to quickly chamfer a box for example, I create a chamfer with the same parameters as the box
2018-02-27T21:48:38 < PaulFertser> But openscad language is so strange and limited, you can't really tell it to "use parameters of that box" it seems.
2018-02-27T21:48:58 < jadew> you can
2018-02-27T21:49:07 < jadew> you can just have box_params = [values];
2018-02-27T21:49:12 < jadew> and then create the box with the box_params
2018-02-27T21:49:18 < jadew> and then the chamfer with the same parameters
2018-02-27T21:49:56 < jadew> the language is ok
2018-02-27T21:50:03 < c10ud^> i think FreeCad also supports openscad syntax
2018-02-27T21:50:16 < jadew> some of the functions are inconsistent in their conventions, but it's ok
2018-02-27T21:50:39 < jadew> c10ud^, I have to take a better look at FreeCad, but for some reason I could never fully get into it
2018-02-27T21:51:08 < jadew> I think it requires a lot of knowlege about the inner workings in order to say you have taken the first step
2018-02-27T21:51:11 < Steffanx> doesnt freecad kinda follows the workflow the major cad tools use too?
2018-02-27T21:51:28 < jadew> Steffanx, it might, but I haven't used any major cad tools before
2018-02-27T21:51:44 < jadew> only some ancient version of autodesk in college
2018-02-27T21:52:05 < jadew> and we only did parametric design
2018-02-27T21:52:33 < jadew> not that I'd want to do it any other way
2018-02-27T21:53:23 < Steffanx> Your loss :P
2018-02-27T21:53:24 < jadew> code makes more sense to me, but I agree, openscad's language could be more expressive
2018-02-27T21:53:43 < jadew> I like the syntax, but it doesn't deliver a lot of instant meaning when reading it
2018-02-27T21:53:55 < c10ud^> a colleague of mine did pretty nice stuff with it
2018-02-27T21:53:58 < jadew> you can figure out what things do, but not how they're related for example
2018-02-27T21:54:06 < jadew> c10ud^, with what?
2018-02-27T21:54:09 < Steffanx> the UI of ffreecad sucks arse though
2018-02-27T21:54:21 < jadew> yeah, that's what I meant by the first step
2018-02-27T21:54:40 < jadew> but you said it's like other cad tools
2018-02-27T21:54:57 < Steffanx> not entirely though, but ..
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2018-02-27T21:55:08 < jadew> from my point of view, it's a failed UI
2018-02-27T21:55:20 < jadew> I tried to adopt it several times
2018-02-27T21:55:43 < jadew> but again, maybe I don't know how these things are done
2018-02-27T21:56:04 < c10ud^> jadew, FreeCad, once you get used to it
2018-02-27T21:56:16 < Steffanx> time to solidworks :P
2018-02-27T21:56:52 < jadew> I hope it will make sense for me at some point to buy solidworks
2018-02-27T21:56:58 < Steffanx> probably not
2018-02-27T21:57:05 < jadew> right now, openscad seems to get the job done
2018-02-27T21:59:03 < ds2> what do you need from solidworks?
2018-02-27T21:59:15 < ds2> there are cheaper packages out there
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2018-02-27T22:12:31 < Steffanx> Yeah ofcourse ds2.
2018-02-27T22:13:24 < Rickta59> the best ui is blender 3d of course </sarcasm off>
2018-02-27T22:13:37 < Steffanx> <3
2018-02-27T22:15:54 < jadew> there's something about opensource that makes it have bad UI
2018-02-27T22:16:35 < jadew> I think it's because good UI requires uncomfortable changes
2018-02-27T22:16:56 < jadew> and you need strong leadership for that - someone to tell you to do it
2018-02-27T22:17:25 < jadew> that probably goes for everything else that is usually wrong with opensource
2018-02-27T22:17:36 < Rickta59> that is the one thing that blender 3d has going for it, a strong leader with ideas
2018-02-27T22:17:36 < jadew> and it explains why paid software is better
2018-02-27T22:17:57 < Rickta59> * personally my fingers know blender so i don't actually see it as a bad ui
2018-02-27T22:18:00 < jadew> I used blender for video editing
2018-02-27T22:18:04 < jadew> it was ok
2018-02-27T22:18:33 < jadew> I would probably have to go through the tutorials again if I were to do it again tho
2018-02-27T22:19:23 < zyp> jadew, disregard what I said yesterday
2018-02-27T22:19:35 < jadew> zyp, about the filament?
2018-02-27T22:19:39 < zyp> I asked one of my pals with a MK2S, and he's also running 215/210 on PLA
2018-02-27T22:19:45 < jadew> ah, ok
2018-02-27T22:20:06 < jadew> I tried to print that toy several times now
2018-02-27T22:20:09 < zyp> but still, you're not buying filament from the same source as him
2018-02-27T22:20:20 < zyp> so YMMV
2018-02-27T22:20:30 < zyp> how did it come out? got photos?
2018-02-27T22:20:59 < jadew> I don't, with the original filament the overhangs came out (but not nice)
2018-02-27T22:21:07 < zyp> I've printed like eight of those, so I've seen various fuckups
2018-02-27T22:21:08 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/k00YAYP0
2018-02-27T22:21:15 < Laurenceb> muh Cobra dashcam
2018-02-27T22:21:22 < zyp> so photos would help to compare
2018-02-27T22:21:23 < jadew> however, one of the smaller parts always seems to get loose and ruin everything
2018-02-27T22:21:35 < jadew> zyp, that toy?
2018-02-27T22:21:46 < zyp> by «that toy», you mean benchy?
2018-02-27T22:21:57 < jadew> no, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2719434
2018-02-27T22:21:59 < jadew> that thing
2018-02-27T22:22:01 < zyp> oh, ok
2018-02-27T22:22:16 < jadew> I'll print benchy too, but I didn't get to it
2018-02-27T22:22:19 < zyp> haven't seen that thing
2018-02-27T22:22:22 < jadew> I think I should print a heat tower first
2018-02-27T22:22:35 < zyp> probably a good idea
2018-02-27T22:23:12 < jadew> a guy in the comments posted these pictures: https://cdn.thingiverse.com/assets/15/99/c1/14/b3/Photo_Dec_22_7_07_05_PM_-_Copy.jpg
2018-02-27T22:23:14 < Laurenceb> the accelerometer is weird
2018-02-27T22:23:21 < Laurenceb> some sort of tilt connected thing...
2018-02-27T22:23:32 < jadew> I'm having the same issue with non-prusa filament
2018-02-27T22:23:49 < jadew> with prusa, it the small parts on the side got loose
2018-02-27T22:24:04 < jadew> higher bed temperature could help there, no?
2018-02-27T22:24:06 < zyp> what issue? smushed first layer?
2018-02-27T22:24:07 < Laurenceb> tilt corrected acceleration "anomaly"
2018-02-27T22:24:21 < jadew> zyp, notice on the left
2018-02-27T22:24:31 < jadew> the overhang is curling up
2018-02-27T22:24:44 < zyp> ah, right
2018-02-27T22:24:55 < zyp> how fast are you printing?
2018-02-27T22:24:57 < jadew> the first layer in that photo is probably just bad calibration
2018-02-27T22:25:03 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-27T22:25:04 < jadew> zyp, I tried several speed
2018-02-27T22:25:08 < jadew> *speeds
2018-02-27T22:25:16 < jadew> 100%, 60, 40
2018-02-27T22:25:30 < perole> yay, looks like allpcb is back with free shipping
2018-02-27T22:25:42 < zyp> overhangs curling up tends to be because you don't cool it fast enough
2018-02-27T22:25:49 < jadew> perole, it's a scam
2018-02-27T22:25:59 < zyp> is the part cooling fan working properly?
2018-02-27T22:25:59 < jadew> how much do the boards cost?
2018-02-27T22:26:29 < jadew> zyp, I think so, but I don't know how to test it
2018-02-27T22:26:41 < jadew> I ran the self test - everything ok
2018-02-27T22:26:51 < englishman> https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/80ow6w/im_bill_gates_cochair_of_the_bill_melinda_gates/dux7cln/
2018-02-27T22:26:59 < englishman> tabs ftw
2018-02-27T22:27:48 < jadew> I use both tabs and spaces
2018-02-27T22:27:49 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/f7rG4.jpg <- I strapped a fucking server fan to mine to get enoug cooling
2018-02-27T22:27:59 < jadew> in fact, I made a plugin for atom that uses spaces when aligning things
2018-02-27T22:28:21 < zyp> turned out that I couldn't run it on full, it cools the extruder too much
2018-02-27T22:28:24 < jadew> but tabs for indentation
2018-02-27T22:28:28 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/wkA7r.png <- this happened on first print I tried
2018-02-27T22:29:06 < jadew> zyp, interesting
2018-02-27T22:29:25 < zyp> but MK2S should have decent enough part cooling already, I thought
2018-02-27T22:29:26 < jadew> I suppose I could add another fan
2018-02-27T22:29:33 < zyp> so idk
2018-02-27T22:29:34 < jadew> yeah, I thought so too
2018-02-27T22:29:40 < jadew> but it's only from one side
2018-02-27T22:29:51 < jadew> I hear other printers have two coolers for the part
2018-02-27T22:30:04 < jadew> this one has one for the extruder and one for the part
2018-02-27T22:30:18 < zyp> yeah
2018-02-27T22:31:36 < jadew> just checked the fan, seems to blow quite well
2018-02-27T22:32:47 < jadew> I like the case on yours
2018-02-27T22:38:05 < jadew> looks like simplify3d doesn't even offer a trial
2018-02-27T22:38:25 < jadew> I wonder if it would generate more appropriate code
2018-02-27T22:38:38 < jadew> for example, it could go slower at the overhangs
2018-02-27T22:39:38 < jadew> morning
2018-02-27T22:41:27 < jadew> most of them died
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2018-02-27T22:43:37 < Steffanx> Im dead.
2018-02-27T22:43:59 < Steffanx> to hell?
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2018-02-27T23:13:58 < kakimir> movie recommend: Lola Rennt
2018-02-27T23:14:22 < PaulFertser> +1
2018-02-27T23:14:30 < jadew> thanks
2018-02-27T23:15:29 < Steffanx> I dont know that movie, but the actress remind me of Taboo and The Bourne [something]
2018-02-27T23:16:35 < Steffanx> Better try Taboo kakimir. It's a bit weird and only 8 x 2/3 movie.
2018-02-27T23:16:54 < Steffanx> ( as it's a series and the average episode is 55 min )
2018-02-27T23:16:54 < englishman> seeing that big dude stomp around london is pretty entertaining
2018-02-27T23:16:59 < kakimir> no series
2018-02-27T23:17:04 < kakimir> ever
2018-02-27T23:17:12 < Steffanx> Yeah, imho Tom Hardy did an excellent job
2018-02-27T23:17:20 < kakimir> but when it's really good
2018-02-27T23:17:31 < Steffanx> It's different.
2018-02-27T23:17:37 < englishman> kakimir: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1172570/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_27
2018-02-27T23:17:55 < Steffanx> And from the BBC i believe, and the BBC seems to know how to make good series
2018-02-27T23:18:30 < jadew> Steffanx, Taboo the saga?
2018-02-27T23:19:21 < Steffanx> yeah. They list it as drama, but .. its different
2018-02-27T23:19:34 < jadew> I meant the porn saga
2018-02-27T23:19:37 < jadew> with kay parker
2018-02-27T23:19:46 < jadew> it's a classic
2018-02-27T23:19:46 < Steffanx> oooh -__
2018-02-27T23:20:10 < Steffanx> fuck no.
2018-02-27T23:20:20 < jadew> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081593
2018-02-27T23:20:22 < kakimir> also canadians make good tv series
2018-02-27T23:20:31 < englishman> incorrect
2018-02-27T23:20:44 < kakimir> they show some in finnish tv
2018-02-27T23:20:45 < Steffanx> 1980.
2018-02-27T23:20:46 < jadew> some of the british TV shows are good
2018-02-27T23:20:56 < Steffanx> I only like few movies that were made before i was born jadew.
2018-02-27T23:20:58 < jadew> Steffanx, the golden age of the bush
2018-02-27T23:21:14 < Steffanx> Movies like Alien
2018-02-27T23:21:33 < Steffanx> Ripley will never die \o/
2018-02-27T23:21:35 < jadew> yeah, same here
2018-02-27T23:24:12 < kakimir> blade runner
2018-02-27T23:24:40 < Steffanx> but only because of the dutchy in it with his classic speach
2018-02-27T23:24:47 < Steffanx> *speech
2018-02-27T23:26:04 < Steffanx> and why no series mr kakimir?
2018-02-27T23:26:44 < kakimir> because binge watching
2018-02-27T23:27:40 < Steffanx> oh, valid reason :P
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2018-02-28T00:40:37 < aandrew> fuck a duck -- I got my panels in... look great except that I did not send the fucking non plated slot layer, so I have one 10x10" sheet of FR4 with a bunch of subcircuits on it!
2018-02-28T00:42:32 < englishman> wut
2018-02-28T00:42:40 < englishman> altidumb?
2018-02-28T00:43:08 < englishman> nonplated slots should be in routing layer, as they are routs
2018-02-28T00:43:30 < englishman> i agree 16.1+ made this dumb
2018-02-28T00:48:56 < sync> aandrew: time to get the table saw out
2018-02-28T00:49:18 < fest> mm, I smell fiberglass dust
2018-02-28T00:50:22 < machinehum> my lungs hurt
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2018-02-28T01:01:38 < sync> masks are a thing
2018-02-28T01:02:23 < karlp> does altium have built in panelization tools?
2018-02-28T01:02:55 < englishman> i think so
2018-02-28T01:03:06 < englishman> but the fab usually does that
2018-02-28T01:03:20 < englishman> as you work with them to determine panel and sheet size etc
2018-02-28T01:05:35 < englishman> and they work in gerber/odb++/ipc2581 to set up their tooling
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2018-02-28T01:18:53 < zyp> what englishman said
2018-02-28T01:19:11 < zyp> there's some stuff, but I've never used it
2018-02-28T01:30:26 < jadew> zyp, should I notice any differences between 195 and 225 degrees on a heat tower?
2018-02-28T01:30:33 < jadew> because it looks pretty much the same
2018-02-28T01:31:53 < zyp> the point is that if you're printing too cold, the layers won't adhere to each other properly
2018-02-28T01:32:05 < zyp> i.e. they'll break apart easily
2018-02-28T01:32:23 < jadew> so I should print as hot as I can?
2018-02-28T01:32:47 < zyp> no, you'll probably want to use the lowest temperature that adheres properly
2018-02-28T01:33:14 < zyp> try breaking apart your temperature tower, see how low you can go before it starts breaking easier
2018-02-28T01:33:36 < zyp> then try printing that overhang test or whatever at that temperature, see if curling is still a problem
2018-02-28T01:34:01 < jadew> I see, thanks
2018-02-28T01:36:32 < jadew> none of them break, so I guess I could go lower
2018-02-28T01:36:48 < jadew> the best walls seem to be built at 200 degrees
2018-02-28T01:37:18 < jadew> lower than that they get weavier and they're shiny
2018-02-28T01:40:38 < zyp> https://www.simplify3d.com/support/print-quality-troubleshooting/ <- have you seen this, btw?
2018-02-28T01:41:54 < jadew> I haven't
2018-02-28T01:41:56 < jadew> checking it out
2018-02-28T01:41:57 < jadew> thanks
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2018-02-28T01:52:33 < aandrew> englishman: yes. I forgot to send the fucking layer.
2018-02-28T01:52:39 < aandrew> sync: you guessed right: https://imgur.com/a/8vPNA
2018-02-28T01:53:07 < aandrew> I rushed everything, which is why I didn't catch the missing file and why the shop also didn't do the engineering time to test
2018-02-28T01:53:35 < aandrew> and I also mixed 2l and 4l boards in the panel so the 2l boards are useless since the inner layers are solid copper and any vias are shorted
2018-02-28T01:53:44 < aandrew> but the 2l boards were NOT critical thank fuck
2018-02-28T01:53:51 < aandrew> in all I was rushing and I fucked up
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2018-02-28T02:01:57 < karlp> yeah, I thought it would be a fab thing, not a "I forgot to send a layer" unless you're manually hacking on china pcb to try and avoid paying for pcbs or something
2018-02-28T02:01:58 < aandrew> heh. the $800 digikey order came fast but has an error. I ordered WM9563-ND (u.fl pigtail) and instead got these: https://imgur.com/a/s3s2r
2018-02-28T02:02:18 < aandrew> yeah I thought it must have been a fab error too but when I opened the zip I gave them.. no fucking unplated slot layer
2018-02-28T02:02:40 < aandrew> so I have a 10x10" sheet of FR4 with teh correct boards on it, complete with tiny mousebites, but no slots
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2018-02-28T02:03:22 < karlp> so, you gave them a gerber for the entire panel?
2018-02-28T02:04:24 < aandrew> yes
2018-02-28T02:04:28 < aandrew> I panelized it myself
2018-02-28T02:04:33 < aandrew> within altium
2018-02-28T02:05:02 < aandrew> it's also missing bottom silk but that again was my fuckup for not selecting the correct dropdown, or perhaps not verifying it
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2018-02-28T05:27:46 < englishman> fenugrec: i know you are on shitty canadian internet but plz fix
2018-02-28T05:28:26 < fenugrec> englishman & others that don't have "hide join/quit notifs", sry. Shiternet is shitty.
2018-02-28T05:28:40 < fenugrec> I'll show myself out
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2018-02-28T06:00:25 < branjb> any stepper motor experts?  does a higher load on a stepper motor affect temperature on the IC?
2018-02-28T06:01:17 < ds2> why would it?
2018-02-28T06:01:23 < branjb> idk
2018-02-28T06:01:37 < branjb> my z axis keeps shutting off halfway into a job
2018-02-28T06:01:48 < ds2> z axis for what?
2018-02-28T06:01:54 < branjb> a cnc router
2018-02-28T06:01:54 < ds2> does it have a feedback?
2018-02-28T06:02:25 < ds2> sure it is an open loop stepper?
2018-02-28T06:02:42 < ds2> maybe it has a feedback and it aborts the job if it looses a step
2018-02-28T06:02:44 < branjb> it has some kind of spi interface that you can check for an errorbit, don't have the energy to debug and see if anything raised
2018-02-28T06:02:46 < branjb> open loop
2018-02-28T06:02:48 < branjb> no feedback
2018-02-28T06:02:50 < ds2> increaing load can cause a stepper to skip a step
2018-02-28T06:03:12 < ds2> maybe it is looking for back emf
2018-02-28T06:03:50 < branjb> it's weird, i ran the job earlier successfully and then on the 2nd and 3rd job the stepper motor unpowered at the same spot
2018-02-28T06:04:06 < branjb> which makes me wonder if it was overheating
2018-02-28T06:04:20 < branjb> but overheating at the same spot (20 min in) seems too coincidental
2018-02-28T06:04:50 < branjb> I don't think it's losing steps
2018-02-28T06:05:00 < branjb> idk will have to fuck with it more when I have energy
2018-02-28T06:36:28 < ds2> steppers are pretty dumb
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2018-02-28T09:13:30 < R0b0t1> ds2: Steppers are the best kind of motor
2018-02-28T09:13:35 < R0b0t1> Built in indexing almost
2018-02-28T09:13:45 < R0b0t1> Just buy them so that they can't be overpowered by your process
2018-02-28T09:13:55 < R0b0t1> branjb: Yes
2018-02-28T09:14:31 < R0b0t1> branjb: But the relationship is not quite like a DC motor, where it is almost proportional
2018-02-28T09:14:55 < R0b0t1> Generally you set a hold current such that the motor can't be moved. If it does move, you don't know, unless you have an encoder or are looking at coil back EMF
2018-02-28T09:15:16 < R0b0t1> It is possible your hold current is set too high
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2018-02-28T09:32:23 < ds2> they are still pretty dumb compared to a servo motor
2018-02-28T09:35:36 < R0b0t1> But in the grand scheme of things they outperform them, perhaps save where weight is an issue
2018-02-28T09:36:31 < R0b0t1> I'd hazard >80% of automated equipment uses steppers not because the people designing the machines are not smart enough to use something else, but because they're the easiest to use and design for, while also being performant enough to matter
2018-02-28T09:36:59 < R0b0t1> Stepper control has been a solved problem for a while
2018-02-28T09:37:07 < R0b0t1> It's not interesting, nobody is pushing new designs about stepper control
2018-02-28T09:38:02 < R0b0t1> You can make a microstepping controller out of discrete logic and it would be small enough to include in your end product
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2018-02-28T09:46:27 < ds2> no argument there... it is dumb simple device
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2018-02-28T09:56:31 < Tectu> I don't dogs
2018-02-28T09:56:43 < Steffanx> And no waffles
2018-02-28T09:56:51 < Tectu> also that, yes.
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2018-02-28T10:00:20 < sync> R0b0t1: lots of people are pushing new stepper controllers
2018-02-28T10:00:27 < sync> and they are clearly not the best motors there are
2018-02-28T10:03:28 < R0b0t1> There is a woman with a dog at work
2018-02-28T10:03:31 < R0b0t1> The dog is very young
2018-02-28T10:03:33 < R0b0t1> Very wiggly
2018-02-28T10:03:47 < R0b0t1> I glomped it to get it to hold still
2018-02-28T10:03:56 < R0b0t1> It did not mind being glomped
2018-02-28T10:04:37 < qyx> whta is to glomp
2018-02-28T10:05:17 < R0b0t1> There was a tiny dog, see, sitting there, minding its own business, but wiggling erratically
2018-02-28T10:05:36 < R0b0t1> Another coworker deigned to flip its ears inside out to make the wiggly dog look like princess Leia
2018-02-28T10:05:53 < R0b0t1> It as necessary to grasp the dog firmly in a hug while crouching
2018-02-28T10:05:57 < R0b0t1> This is the act of glomping
2018-02-28T10:06:01 < R0b0t1> It works on cats too
2018-02-28T10:06:24 < R0b0t1> it is*
2018-02-28T10:06:29 < qyx> interesting
2018-02-28T10:06:33 < qyx> my dictionary is outdated then
2018-02-28T10:07:03 < R0b0t1> The pet must be fully surrounded, or as surrounded as possible
2018-02-28T10:07:11 < R0b0t1> Very technical
2018-02-28T10:07:16 < R0b0t1> Goodnight
2018-02-28T10:07:20 < qyx> gn
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2018-02-28T11:17:54 < stvn> hello, welcome.
2018-02-28T11:17:59 < Steffanx> Lo.
2018-02-28T11:22:33 < stvn> what is new?
2018-02-28T11:23:52 < Steffanx> Snow.
2018-02-28T11:23:58 < Steffanx> And -10C
2018-02-28T11:24:16 < stvn> good for walking your cat
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2018-02-28T12:11:47 < qyx> STWF04 arrived
2018-02-28T12:12:13 < qyx> wlcsp STM32F439 onboard
2018-02-28T12:15:34 < karlp> is that a coprocessor, or do you have full wifi yourself?
2018-02-28T12:15:41 < stvn> heh
2018-02-28T12:15:46 < stvn> IoT
2018-02-28T12:17:32 < qyx> apparently you are able to program it
2018-02-28T12:17:40 < qyx> there are some binary blobs
2018-02-28T12:17:48 < qyx> esp style looks like
2018-02-28T12:18:01 < qyx> but I am going to use it in a dumb mode with the default firmware
2018-02-28T12:18:07 < qyx> and AT commands ofer SPI/USART
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2018-02-28T12:26:35 < karlp> dumb with default firmware means what, you load your application in as micropython? or you have another processor?
2018-02-28T12:27:29 < karlp> zyp: what's on the left in https://bin.jvnv.net/file/f7rG4.jpg ?
2018-02-28T12:27:35 < qyx> another processor
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2018-02-28T12:29:42 < karlp> qyx: how much are they?
2018-02-28T12:29:49 < qyx> 13e
2018-02-28T12:30:06 < karlp> how much "bette" is it than an esp12f?
2018-02-28T12:30:15 < karlp> remains to be seen I guess :)
2018-02-28T12:30:24 < karlp> CE mark is bigger at least :)
2018-02-28T12:30:45 < qyx> I selected it because nicer commands, SPI and stm inside
2018-02-28T12:32:26  * karlp waits to see how the sw ecosystem turns out 
2018-02-28T12:32:37 < qyx> me too
2018-02-28T12:32:52 < qyx> going to solder it and check the soft ap web server
2018-02-28T12:34:00 < karlp> same radio as in the SPWF01 modules,
2018-02-28T12:34:04 < karlp> are they still sold?
2018-02-28T12:34:37 < karlp> NRND, 14$
2018-02-28T12:35:13 < qyx> yes
2018-02-28T12:36:01 < karlp> you get an arm9 inside for free ;) https://fccid.io/S9NSPWFS04/Operational-Description/Operational-Description-3029963
2018-02-28T12:38:17 < qyx> if the arm9 implements full 802.11 MAC, mhm
2018-02-28T12:38:30 < qyx> then you don't need any ST software in the STM32
2018-02-28T12:38:40 < qyx> if the api was documented of course
2018-02-28T12:39:05 < karlp> depends what your goal is :)
2018-02-28T12:39:18 < karlp> doubt you can actually buy the cw1100 by itself either
2018-02-28T12:39:30 < qyx> probably not
2018-02-28T12:39:37 < qyx> but this is soldered on a extension board
2018-02-28T12:39:44 < qyx> communicating over SPI (kind of)
2018-02-28T12:39:52 < qyx> so I could omit one MCU
2018-02-28T12:40:07 < qyx> I could do that even if the api is not documented
2018-02-28T12:40:31 < qyx> but in this case I would need to persuade the software inside to communicate over the SPI with my protocol
2018-02-28T12:40:43 < qyx> I was lazy and placed another MCU between
2018-02-28T12:41:26 < karlp> heh, that fcc link has text that says, "refer to cw110 datasheet, cd00256436 rev 15
2018-02-28T12:41:39 < karlp> only goog result for that st doc number is that fcc page
2018-02-28T12:41:43 < qyx> the ext board exports a tcp/ip interface over the SPI using protobufs
2018-02-28T12:41:44 < qyx> heh
2018-02-28T12:43:31 < karlp> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/wireless/st/cw1200
2018-02-28T12:43:40 < karlp> apparently that driver covers cw1100 too, via either spi or sdio
2018-02-28T12:45:04 < qyx> interesting
2018-02-28T12:46:02 < karlp> http://www.sagrad.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127&Itemid=128 looks like the same module
2018-02-28T12:46:28 < karlp> I wonder who built them
2018-02-28T12:50:06 < karlp> cw1100 was announced in 2009, for shipping in handsets 2010
2018-02-28T12:50:11 < karlp> talk about hottest radio tech
2018-02-28T12:52:01 < karlp> went into the Lenovo LePhone S899t smartphone in 2012
2018-02-28T12:52:07 < karlp> ok... back to work work
2018-02-28T12:52:42 < zyp> karlp, the printer?
2018-02-28T12:52:53 < karlp> yeah, I guess it's a printer.
2018-02-28T12:52:53 < zyp> HP CLJ 1600
2018-02-28T12:55:04 < qyx> power and link led reversed, fck
2018-02-28T12:55:59 < qyx> karlp: ericsson
2018-02-28T12:57:13 < karlp> well yeah, I meant the modules, whether that was a "partner" design firm or not
2018-02-28T13:00:47 < qyx> ok, it doesn't do AP by default :(
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2018-02-28T13:12:38 < zyp> fucking shit
2018-02-28T13:12:53 < Steffanx> I wouldnt do that
2018-02-28T13:13:15 < zyp> my ethernet connections are sometimes failing to get a link
2018-02-28T13:13:18 < karlp> "secure out of the box"
2018-02-28T13:13:32 < zyp> I've spent a few days debugging this shit now, not getting anywhere
2018-02-28T13:13:47 < Steffanx> On your devices?
2018-02-28T13:13:56 < zyp> yes
2018-02-28T13:14:20 < qyx> I have always wondered I did not have any problems with ethernets on F107
2018-02-28T13:14:50 < zyp> this is the workstuff with a switch chip on each device
2018-02-28T13:14:57 < zyp> rmii and two phy ports
2018-02-28T13:15:04 < qyx> much profinets?
2018-02-28T13:15:17 < zyp> not profinet, but similar, yeah
2018-02-28T13:15:42 < zyp> problem are the phy ports, sometimes they fail to get a link
2018-02-28T13:17:03 < zyp> power rails on chip looks good, schematic looks good, I've tried to eliminate anything that can screw with the signal, so I removed the ESD protection from one of the ports, still fails
2018-02-28T13:17:41 < Steffanx> We had that at work, due to bad pcb design and too high capacitors on the rx/tx lines. Not sure how mr hw screwed that up so bad
2018-02-28T13:17:49 < zyp> seems to behave better when I restrict it to 10Mb/s mode
2018-02-28T13:18:30 < zyp> which makes sense if it's a capacitance problem
2018-02-28T13:18:50 < zyp> but I'd think it's hard to fuck it up that bad
2018-02-28T13:19:07 < zyp> Steffanx, how did your failing design look?
2018-02-28T13:19:25 < Steffanx> Yes. Iirc it also worked at 10mbit for me. It was mainly the auto negotiation that failed
2018-02-28T13:19:59 < zyp> it fails without autonegotiation also
2018-02-28T13:20:24 < zyp> autoneg recognizes the link partner and supported modes, but doesn't manage to get the link up
2018-02-28T13:20:41 < zyp> if I set autoneg to 10mbit only, it works
2018-02-28T13:20:41 < Steffanx> Uhm, just the normal stuff with some additional 18pF caps on the connector side
2018-02-28T13:21:15 < zyp> I don't have any caps on signal lines, just center taps of the pulse transformers
2018-02-28T13:21:40 < zyp> and all that is according to reference design
2018-02-28T13:22:17 < qyx> center tap biasing is ok?
2018-02-28T13:22:36 < zyp> on phy side of the transformer? yeah, it's at the specced 3.3V
2018-02-28T13:24:47 < zyp> Steffanx, so, just removing the caps solved it?
2018-02-28T13:26:10 < zyp> I find it kinda unlikely that just pcb routing alone is the problem
2018-02-28T13:26:47 < zyp> this shit is rated to run over like 100m of shitty cable, so I don't get how 40mm of pcb traces can have enough impact to fuck it up
2018-02-28T13:27:27 < qyx> tried to scope the neighborhood?
2018-02-28T13:27:47 < qyx> are they routed next to each other? probably some smps is coupling
2018-02-28T13:27:53 < zyp> yes, that's what I've been doing this morning
2018-02-28T13:28:14 < zyp> 10Mb/s scope traces looks reasonable as far as I can tell, 100Mb/s is too fast to make much sense out of with a shitty rigol
2018-02-28T13:29:14 < zyp> I don't have the layout files, so I don't know how they are routed, but I assume they are routed as differential pairs
2018-02-28T13:29:37 < zyp> design was outsourced, so I only have schematic
2018-02-28T13:32:17 < Steffanx> Yes zyp. But the main issue was bad routing.
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2018-02-28T13:32:58 < zyp> Steffanx, how bad are we talking?
2018-02-28T13:40:17 < Steffanx> I cant show you sadly.
2018-02-28T13:40:47 < Steffanx> But the traces were a bit all over the place
2018-02-28T13:40:53 < zyp> not routed as pairs?
2018-02-28T13:41:04 < Steffanx> Not entirely iirc
2018-02-28T13:41:18 < zyp> hmm
2018-02-28T13:44:48 < Steffanx> But it were the caps that mainly did it. The 18pF on each line. So 4 caps
2018-02-28T13:45:41 < Steffanx> The sw fix was to reset the phy each x seconds, but that was uuugly. And before we knew what thenissue was
2018-02-28T13:46:10 < zyp> it seems to me that when it works, it works
2018-02-28T13:46:16 < zyp> but when it doesn't, it doesn't
2018-02-28T13:46:45 < zyp> and again, I don't have any explicit capacitors on the lines
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2018-02-28T13:53:46 < Sagiftw> Hello. Does anybody here knows STEMWIN?
2018-02-28T13:54:15 < jpa-> just ask your question
2018-02-28T13:56:05 < Sagiftw> I'm unable to use the touch screen with the stemwin gui library
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2018-02-28T14:15:36 < Tectu> better ugfx
2018-02-28T14:16:05 < jpa-> ugfx all the things
2018-02-28T14:16:21 < tomeaton17> Is altium autosave on by default?
2018-02-28T14:16:40 < karlp> wtf sort of question si that?
2018-02-28T14:16:45 < Tectu> ^
2018-02-28T14:17:26 < tomeaton17> Its hanged for 10+ minutes, so I was wondering how much I will have lsot
2018-02-28T14:18:51 < karlp> do you guys all click the option in altium that says, "crash a lot? yes [x] no [ ]" or something?
2018-02-28T14:19:28 < tomeaton17> First time its happened to me :/
2018-02-28T14:21:13 < tomeaton17> seems like autosave is off by default
2018-02-28T14:22:03 < qyx> don't you hit ctrl+s after every trace?
2018-02-28T14:24:07 < Laurenceb> the BEAST from the EAST
2018-02-28T14:24:10 < tomeaton17> I do now!
2018-02-28T14:24:20 < tomeaton17> Lost about an hours work.
2018-02-28T14:24:21 < Laurenceb> Putin hacked the weather because he is a racist who hates the gays
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2018-02-28T14:59:55 < Sagiftw> ugfx costs a lot
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2018-02-28T15:03:32 < Sagiftw> Tectu: jpa-: STEMWIN is free and ugfx costs 1650$ which is way too much...
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2018-02-28T15:29:35 < Laurenceb> lul it has audio support
2018-02-28T15:29:43 < Laurenceb> I should use it for datalogging
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2018-02-28T15:37:30 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/xU8wyzcU
2018-02-28T15:37:39 < Laurenceb> dashcam metadata extract is wurking
2018-02-28T15:44:32 < Steffanx> You should labview, Laurenceb
2018-02-28T15:46:12 < Laurenceb> heh
2018-02-28T15:48:12 < Tectu_> no, you should simulink, Laurenceb
2018-02-28T15:48:31 < Steffanx> StimuLink.
2018-02-28T15:48:49 < Tectu_> horny steffanx?
2018-02-28T15:48:59 < Tectu_> better don´t touch my waffles with those hands
2018-02-28T15:49:26 < Steffanx> 🤡
2018-02-28T15:49:37 < Laurenceb> 0x01F921
2018-02-28T15:49:44 < Laurenceb> to you too
2018-02-28T15:55:22 < karlp> is that ruby?
2018-02-28T15:56:57 < Steffanx> Id say methlab
2018-02-28T15:58:13 < Laurenceb> there are still about 24bits per frame that I havent worked out
2018-02-28T15:58:51 < Laurenceb> looks like it has magnetometer and accel but the data is preprocessed onboard the camera
2018-02-28T15:59:02 < Laurenceb> useful for balloon crowd tho
2018-02-28T16:00:38 < Laurenceb> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/donald-trump-supporters-bad-smells-reaction-sense-of-smell-disgusting-a8231616.html
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2018-02-28T16:10:55 < Sagiftw> Need help with STemwin library :)
2018-02-28T16:12:24 < karlp> yesm we know.
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2018-02-28T16:27:22 < Steffanx> I dont think many here used it Sagiftw
2018-02-28T16:27:35 < Steffanx> We are ugfx fans
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2018-02-28T16:38:08 < Sagiftw> Steffanx: Did you win the lottery? ugfx costs 1650$!
2018-02-28T16:39:34 < sync> not for your personal projects
2018-02-28T16:39:37 < englishman> worth every penny
2018-02-28T16:41:21 < englishman> Steffanx: https://i.imgur.com/faqrbLx.jpg
2018-02-28T16:41:37 < Sagiftw> If i'm planning to sell this software, I have to buy a license
2018-02-28T16:41:52 < Sagiftw> btw TouchGFX and embedded wizard are much better
2018-02-28T16:42:23 < qyx> selling sores, meh
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2018-02-28T16:54:12 < Laurenceb> nice power lines
2018-02-28T16:54:22 < Laurenceb> u need to harvest some free nrg
2018-02-28T16:56:32 < karlp> are those threedicked stroopwaffels?
2018-02-28T16:57:47 < Steffanx> Haha yes karlp
2018-02-28T16:57:53 < Steffanx> Its my business waffle
2018-02-28T16:58:08 < Steffanx> Hows does that get 21 views englishman ?
2018-02-28T16:59:34 < Steffanx> Its supposed to be a cup coaster. For the hot chocolate with stroopwafel
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2018-02-28T17:18:01 < kaa> what is the cheap pcb at the moment?
2018-02-28T17:18:09 < kaa> pcb fab
2018-02-28T17:18:12 < dongs> SAMA5D225C-D1M — SAMA5D22 with 128Mb (16MB) DDR2 in BGA196 (11 x 11mm with 0.75mm pitch) — FreeRTOS or barebones only
2018-02-28T17:18:16 < dongs> i hope this is a typo
2018-02-28T17:18:18 < dongs> SAMA5D27C-D5M — SAMA5D27C with 512Mb (64MB) DDR2 in BGA289 (14 x 14mm with 0.8mm pitch) — Linux only
2018-02-28T17:18:19 < kaa> personal project
2018-02-28T17:18:21 < dongs> why woudl same core/etc be LUNIX ONLY
2018-02-28T17:18:30 < sync> mmu?
2018-02-28T17:18:40 < dongs> im talking about bigger one claiming to be lunix only
2018-02-28T17:18:51 < zyp> it's not linux only, it's just that the smallest model doesn't have enough ram to run linux at all
2018-02-28T17:19:01 < dongs> well sure
2018-02-28T17:19:01 < kaa> to confuse
2018-02-28T17:19:15 < dongs> thats pretty shitty cuz im certain lunix ran on 16mb ram at some point
2018-02-28T17:19:19 < dongs> did it become blaoted shitware?
2018-02-28T17:19:33 < zyp> could probably still be shoehorned in
2018-02-28T17:20:07 < qyx> minimaln openrtos needs 32MB now
2018-02-28T17:20:12 < dongs> wat
2018-02-28T17:20:14 < qyx> used to be 16 and even 8
2018-02-28T17:20:17 < dongs> the fuck is openrtos
2018-02-28T17:20:18 < qyx> *openwrt
2018-02-28T17:20:22 < dongs> oh, that AIDS
2018-02-28T17:20:48 < dongs> i'm ONLY looking at sam if i can do completely baremetal stuff.
2018-02-28T17:20:50 < qyx> openrtos sounds good, aren't we going to do some?
2018-02-28T17:20:53 < dongs> lunix is bloatware + trash for my applicaton
2018-02-28T17:21:04 < PaulFertser> My first machine running GNU/Linux was 80386 with 4M RAM.
2018-02-28T17:21:23 < qyx> but in the days of 4M linux it was not capable of anything
2018-02-28T17:21:32 < dongs> did you HAVE to rub it in with GNU/
2018-02-28T17:21:53 < dongs> cuz im pretty sure at that 386/4mb era it was still not prefixed as such
2018-02-28T17:22:05 < PaulFertser> qyx: it was fully functional, certainly much better than DOS, supported all the relevant network protocols etc.
2018-02-28T17:22:11 < dongs> thats a thing added later like a freebsd code of conduct
2018-02-28T17:22:27 < qyx> thts true though
2018-02-28T17:22:49 < dongs> Like the Xplained boards, the module is fully open source, from the mainline Linux support to the posting of open schematics, design, Gerber, and BoM files for both the SOM and the optional SOM1-EK1 development board.
2018-02-28T17:22:53 < sync> dongs: you mean freebdsm
2018-02-28T17:23:00 < dongs> i have yet to find complete (and not just blocks) schematics of the SOM
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2018-02-28T17:23:13 < dongs> blocks are threwn around the datasheet/user manual
2018-02-28T17:23:17 < dongs> but its a cunt to follow
2018-02-28T17:23:36 < PaulFertser> dongs: that distro I used was called "Slackware Linux" but the userspace was certainly GNU.
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2018-02-28T17:27:40 < Steffanx> Dongs the schematics and gerbers are there
2018-02-28T17:27:47 < Laurenceb> GNU-Linux
2018-02-28T17:27:50 < dongs> for the SOM?
2018-02-28T17:27:54 < Steffanx> They are somewhere in a .7z file
2018-02-28T17:27:56 < Steffanx> Yes sir
2018-02-28T17:27:59 < dongs> thats the _EK
2018-02-28T17:28:05 < dongs> i have not seen them for the SOM.
2018-02-28T17:28:23 < Steffanx> I was pretty sure i have. Have to relook
2018-02-28T17:28:43 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlD9UBTcSW4
2018-02-28T17:28:54 < dongs> ok
2018-02-28T17:28:55 < dongs> you are right
2018-02-28T17:28:58 < dongs> they suck at google so fucking bad
2018-02-28T17:29:07 < dongs> all google searches for ATSAMA5D27-SOM1 just go to -EK pages
2018-02-28T17:29:24 < dongs> if yo usearch internally on microshit.com then it goes to the page with design files.
2018-02-28T17:32:03 < sync> nice
2018-02-28T17:32:07 < sync> typical tho
2018-02-28T17:33:23 < dongs> 6 layer board
2018-02-28T17:33:28 < dongs> challege: redo in 2L
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2018-02-28T17:35:08 < Laurenceb> screenshots required
2018-02-28T17:35:39 < kaa> secks required
2018-02-28T17:36:20 < kaa> 6layer shiet into 2layers... challenge not accepted
2018-02-28T17:36:37 < sync> [autoroute intensifies]
2018-02-28T17:36:54 < dongs> kaa, with kikecad, sure
2018-02-28T17:37:13 < Laurenceb> in eagle: easy
2018-02-28T17:37:32 < Laurenceb> arduino is two layer
2018-02-28T17:37:35 < Laurenceb> qed
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2018-02-28T17:39:00 < kaa> arduino is low density design
2018-02-28T17:39:30 < Laurenceb> woooshhhhh
2018-02-28T17:39:33 < kaa> of course density and need of beefy ground layer or power traces might affect plausability
2018-02-28T17:40:07 < kaa> *plausibility
2018-02-28T17:41:05 < kaa> but if 6layer design is like "couldn't care more" everything just basically autorouted netlist import all components where ever they landed
2018-02-28T17:41:32 < kaa> "just throw 6layers in"
2018-02-28T17:42:10 < kaa> "we only make a couple of these"
2018-02-28T17:42:23 < kaa> why 2layers dongs?
2018-02-28T17:43:13 < dongs> why not
2018-02-28T17:43:27 < Laurenceb> screenshot of board required
2018-02-28T17:43:29 < qyx> its like lets write some linux
2018-02-28T17:43:29 < qyx> why not
2018-02-28T17:43:49 < Laurenceb> lunix
2018-02-28T17:43:59 < Laurenceb> looonux
2018-02-28T17:44:02 < kaa> lunix it
2018-02-28T17:44:23 < kaa> why is the original 6layers?
2018-02-28T17:44:30 < Laurenceb> cant wait http://www.scarboroughspa.co.uk/events/Sargon-of-Akkad-Scarborough-Spa-June-2018
2018-02-28T17:44:42 < kaa> if you can make it into 2layers you know the original is bullshit
2018-02-28T17:44:44 < Laurenceb> >The Grand Hall
2018-02-28T17:44:47 < Laurenceb> kekking
2018-02-28T17:45:45 < kaa> time to pick up my liquid metal
2018-02-28T17:45:50 < kaa> it has arrived
2018-02-28T17:45:59 < tomeaton17> 20 quid for sargon top kek
2018-02-28T17:46:06 < kaa> and to do control test
2018-02-28T17:46:30 < kaa> recommend good control test for my throttling 2core passive cooled shiet
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2018-02-28T17:46:55 < kaa> it should probs run 15minutes or so
2018-02-28T17:47:03 < kaa> and give like a graph type of thing
2018-02-28T17:47:47 < kaa> I want to make the integral of the graph at least higher if the stabilized performance value stays the same
2018-02-28T17:53:08 < dongs> the SOM example layout is nice cuz they got all the bypass caps on top
2018-02-28T17:54:04 < englishman> Once marijuana is legalized, how would you feel if Oh Henry! were to launch a new candy bar marketed to be consumed when using marijuana recreationally.
2018-02-28T17:57:25 < Laurenceb> http://s1.b3ta.com/host/creative/46786/1519645756/CorbynMay.jpg
2018-02-28T17:57:46 < Laurenceb> deepfakes went too far
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2018-02-28T18:02:20 < englishman> Thorn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYq98o5YS-8
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2018-02-28T18:04:10 < englishman> wait wasnt this last week
2018-02-28T18:04:29 < dongs> uh why is it live again
2018-02-28T18:04:34 < dongs> fucking scamx re-scammers
2018-02-28T18:04:48 < englishman> totally
2018-02-28T18:05:24 < dongs> i watched the shit lift off, it was fucing boring
2018-02-28T18:05:25 < dongs> nothing happened
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2018-02-28T18:05:41 < englishman> no landing either
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2018-02-28T18:18:10 < sync> somebody needs to position a SAM on the ocean and intercept their shit
2018-02-28T18:18:14 < sync> for the luls
2018-02-28T18:18:53 < dongs> gawd how can R2FAG deal with thsi fucking aleegro trash
2018-02-28T18:19:00 < dongs> i just need to export brd to asc
2018-02-28T18:19:10 < dongs> there's liek 20 allegro pcb editions
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2018-02-28T18:20:10 < dongs> Allegro PCB Designer (was Performance L)
2018-02-28T18:20:10 < dongs> ---------------------------
2018-02-28T18:20:10 < dongs> WARNING(SPMHOD-34): Design was last saved by lower capability product (Librarian EOL). DRC is set out-of-date, you may wish to update DRC to reflect current rules.
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2018-02-28T18:25:07 < dongs> oh wait im dum
2018-02-28T18:25:17 < emeb> attn dongs: https://twitter.com/Hiroshiman_X/status/967864037877997573
2018-02-28T18:25:24 < dongs> i dont need to make allegro export it, i needto us that script thing from altidumb
2018-02-28T18:25:34 < dongs> emeb: extemely old
2018-02-28T18:25:41 < dongs> it tweeted it over a week ago
2018-02-28T18:25:46  * emeb is late to the party
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2018-02-28T18:42:55 < karlp> this is more fresh maybe? xosA (as per WOS) = -25.899300, xosB (as per docs with /202 madness) = -33.383813
2018-02-28T18:42:58 < karlp> no, not that.
2018-02-28T18:43:01 < karlp> xosA (as per WOS) = -25.899300, xosB (as per docs with /202 madness) = -33.383813
2018-02-28T18:43:04 < karlp> https://twitter.com/RobinWigg/status/965969048059236353
2018-02-28T18:43:07 < karlp> that
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2018-02-28T18:48:47 < dongs> aahahahahah wat
2018-02-28T18:48:49 < dongs> fucking buttcoin
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2018-02-28T18:54:36 < dongs> karlp: whats xosA, some other shitcoin?
2018-02-28T18:54:57 < dongs> and -$25.23423523 is its value
2018-02-28T18:55:13 < zyp> I'd buy that
2018-02-28T18:55:26 < karlp> no, something completely unrelated :)
2018-02-28T18:55:40 < karlp> trying to determine some datasheet stupidty
2018-02-28T18:55:47 < dongs> zyp, you mean, they'd have to give you $25 to buy it
2018-02-28T18:55:58 < zyp> exactly
2018-02-28T18:56:49 < karlp> Serial;product;version;vgain1;vgain2;vgain3;igain1;igain2;igain3;ios1;ios2;ios3;phasecal1;phasecal2;phasecal3;vag1;vag2;vag3;varg1;varg2;varg3;varos1;varos2;varos3;wattos1;wattos2;wattos3;wg1;wg2;wg3;
2018-02-28T18:57:00 < dongs> > fag1
2018-02-28T18:57:01 < karlp> https://imgur.com/a/MKSBv
2018-02-28T18:57:11 < karlp> ffs. copypasta failtastic today
2018-02-28T18:57:28 < dongs> * 2^29?
2018-02-28T18:57:35 < dongs> are you trying to send it into an int or something?
2018-02-28T18:57:37 < karlp> yeah, ask fucking AD.
2018-02-28T18:57:47 < zyp> floats don't wrap, they saturate at inf
2018-02-28T18:57:47 < karlp> yeah, goes into a 16bit reg
2018-02-28T18:57:51 < karlp> or 12bit or something
2018-02-28T18:57:51 < dongs> (thats how youd'd get negative from it i geuss
2018-02-28T18:57:57 < karlp> no, it's just wrong :)
2018-02-28T18:58:24 < karlp> the last = is where you take the float and write it to an integer register,
2018-02-28T18:58:32 < dongs> the -.0.88?
2018-02-28T18:58:37 < zyp> the 0
2018-02-28T18:58:41 < dongs> heh
2018-02-28T18:58:49 < karlp> yeah, that's the "ideal" and that roudns to 0, which is what goes into the register
2018-02-28T18:58:56 < dongs> <ad> looks like a valid integer! ship it.
2018-02-28T18:59:05 < zyp> AD?
2018-02-28T18:59:08 < karlp> analog devices
2018-02-28T18:59:14 < dongs> < karlp> yeah, ask fucking AD.
2018-02-28T18:59:16 < dongs> these guys.
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2018-02-28T18:59:28 < zyp> so, some tool?
2018-02-28T18:59:40 < karlp> their guidelines on calibration
2018-02-28T18:59:55 < karlp> that's the datasheet formula, with example values plugged in.
2018-02-28T18:59:58 < zyp> uh
2018-02-28T18:59:59 < zyp> haha
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2018-02-28T19:00:19 < karlp> ade7758 rev e, page 53 if you're really excited.
2018-02-28T19:00:34 < karlp> top of 54 actually.
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2018-02-28T19:15:36 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/613985ec49/89324.png
2018-02-28T19:15:42 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/613985ec49/89325.png
2018-02-28T19:15:57 < Laurenceb> faildroid versus IEPE accelerometer on shakergate
2018-02-28T19:16:10 < Laurenceb> >what is antialiasing
2018-02-28T19:17:19 < Laurenceb> but IEPE shit has horrifying noise
2018-02-28T19:18:52 < qyx> do you use iepe now?
2018-02-28T19:19:02 < Laurenceb> as a reference, yes
2018-02-28T19:19:42 < dongs> IEPE more like PEPE
2018-02-28T19:19:54 < dongs> (something laurence/b/ is much more familiar wiht)
2018-02-28T19:21:41 < Laurenceb> says weev
2018-02-28T19:23:18 < Laurenceb> we know who u really are
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2018-02-28T20:20:42 < Laurenceb> The memes were then injected directly into the collective progressive central nervous system. This applied deconstruction was made easy and fun through an automated, crowd-sourced process that resembles thought without involving any reasoning
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2018-02-28T21:04:17 < qyx> the same chip listed as no longer manufactured on farnell
2018-02-28T21:04:19 < qyx> new on mouser
2018-02-28T21:04:23 < qyx> and active on ti.com
2018-02-28T21:11:01 < zyp> if you average it out, ti.com is correct
2018-02-28T21:12:47 < qyx> and now I am curious why the hell did I choose a LT step-up converter for $5
2018-02-28T21:13:08 < qyx> when there are many others available for $1
2018-02-28T21:13:12 < qyx> used in power banks
2018-02-28T21:13:47 < qyx> tps61235/6 looks great
2018-02-28T21:19:36 < aandrew> I use the TPS62 series but they're buck/boost
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2018-02-28T21:47:09 < englishman> https://mtlynch.io/why-i-quit-google/
2018-02-28T21:55:29 < Steffanx> stuff like that happens everywhere.
2018-02-28T21:56:30 < englishman> inevitable in a company with 74k employees
2018-02-28T22:00:45 < kakimir> https://i.imgur.com/K3KOx85.gifv is this trump?
2018-02-28T22:02:00 < Steffanx> Welcome kakimir, how are you
2018-02-28T22:02:00 < kakimir> I think it might be
2018-02-28T22:02:10 < Steffanx> fixed your issues zyp? The phy thing
2018-02-28T22:02:25 < kakimir> Welcome Stef papa
2018-02-28T22:02:32 < kakimir> good good
2018-02-28T22:04:07 < Steffanx> The next one to call me dad or papa will get spanked.
2018-02-28T22:05:11 < kakimir> interesting
2018-02-28T22:09:34 < fest> phd's here: I have a frequency response plot of a closed loop system which shows positive gain at certain frequency. Does that mean the controller is "over-tuned"?
2018-02-28T22:09:51 < fest> (don't have the plot with me now)
2018-02-28T22:10:21 < fest> (obviously, my control systems knowledge is severely lacking)
2018-02-28T22:11:57 < fest> I probably could make some sense out of step response plot but have to write some code for that
2018-02-28T22:12:03 < Steffanx> i bet BrainDamage is the phd you need here :P
2018-02-28T22:12:25 < fest> I was counting on mr. 4chan
2018-02-28T22:14:40 < kakimir> should I liquid metal now or tomorrow?
2018-02-28T22:15:11 < Steffanx> do you sniff or inject?
2018-02-28T22:15:22 < jpa-> fest: so you have 1 unit step in input to controller, and the control output causes more than 1 unit step in input? then yes, it has too much gain there
2018-02-28T22:15:24 < kakimir> inject
2018-02-28T22:15:58 < jpa-> but if your plot is just controller input -> controller output, then one cannot say much based on just that
2018-02-28T22:18:39 < fest> jpa-, yes, that was a plot of "overall system response", so I presume it means that 1 unit input to system at certain frequency causes N units of output
2018-02-28T22:19:10 < kakimir> time to brick laptop
2018-02-28T22:19:11 < kakimir> bbl>
2018-02-28T22:19:15 < jpa-> usually for investigating controller stability, you'd have a model of the system you are trying to control also
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2018-02-28T22:22:27 < fest> jpa-: I would think this is not enough for rigorous analysis: https://photos.app.goo.gl/r2EEfqWCvix0FeKI2 (overall system response)
2018-02-28T22:24:32 < jpa-> ok, so atleast it is in the same units and has the plant response in it
2018-02-28T22:25:31 < jpa-> i'd use "controller + plant" case for most analysis
2018-02-28T22:26:18 < fest> crt: it's camera gimbal, and the video is jerky in real flights, but fine when I move it around in hands
2018-02-28T22:27:31 < fest> nah, just systems integration work
2018-02-28T22:28:50 < fest> our chinese partner initially offered their hw&fw solution which was... lacking in features
2018-02-28T22:30:21 < fest> all it had was PID coefficients for each axis and that was basically it
2018-02-28T22:30:30 < fest> no sensor monitoring
2018-02-28T22:30:52 < fest> no input-output error measurements
2018-02-28T22:31:16 < fest> not even talking about niceties like IMU temp. compensation
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2018-02-28T22:31:52 < fest> yeah, their method of calibration was essentially just randomly tweaking PID coefficients and then looking at video
2018-02-28T22:32:07 < fest> haha
2018-02-28T22:32:34 < fest> another vendor's employees tried debugging I2C problems
2018-02-28T22:32:44 < fest> on analog (no storage) scope
2018-02-28T22:33:03 < fest> and not signal integrity problems
2018-02-28T22:33:45 < fest> But protocol level stuff
2018-02-28T22:36:33 < fest> we gave them a link to a cheap bus-pirate like tool, which they promptly got delivered in the next morning
2018-02-28T22:36:46 < fest> and found the problem by afternoon
2018-02-28T22:37:23 < fest> ok, rant time over
2018-02-28T22:38:04 < fest> resume pumping
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2018-02-28T23:32:21 < englishman> orangepizero sd card is dead after less than a year
2018-02-28T23:32:28 < englishman> legit lexar
2018-02-28T23:32:45 < karlp> isn't that just "sd cards aren't designed to be root filesystems" ?
2018-02-28T23:33:14 < englishman> a little bit of "why is lunix trashing the fucking filesystem when it's doing literally nothing" as well
2018-02-28T23:33:37 < karlp> windows can't run on an sd card, or you'd see the same thing? ;)
2018-02-28T23:33:43 < englishman> good
2018-02-28T23:33:44 < karlp> but yeah,
2018-02-28T23:33:57 < karlp> it's shitty that the storage we get given cheaply is storeage that's not very good at being used
2018-02-28T23:34:17 < karlp> regardless of where you want to lay blame
2018-02-28T23:34:47 < englishman> yeah
2018-02-28T23:34:53 < englishman> need 4gb fram microsd cards now
2018-02-28T23:35:15 < karlp> or emmc/nor and different filesystems, because yeah, more complications is the answer.
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2018-02-28T23:39:06 < englishman> so gotta reinstall this stuff now, whats the 2018 way to flash stm32 over st-link in linux
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