--- Log opened Fri Jun 01 00:00:51 2018 2018-06-01T00:01:41 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@ip-37-201-6-137.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-01T00:06:37 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T00:12:23 < Cracki> if that's wired correctly, it does nothing at all 2018-06-01T00:12:35 < Cracki> "correctly" meaning useless 2018-06-01T00:17:53 < invzim> meh, truestudio+git is giving me a headache 2018-06-01T00:18:15 < invzim> I want to pull&build, not stash a zillion computer specific files 2018-06-01T00:20:20 < stvn> wtf 2018-06-01T00:21:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-01T00:21:12 < stvn> crack 2018-06-01T00:22:43 < Cracki> :P 2018-06-01T00:23:14 < Cracki> it's not a short at least, but I understand it's a transformer 2018-06-01T00:27:27 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T00:33:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-96b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T00:42:32 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T00:45:18 -!- arha [~temp@86.127.44.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T00:48:55 < stvn> looks like a common mode choke to me but who fuckin knows 2018-06-01T00:49:04 < stvn> i don't speak donglish 2018-06-01T00:51:50 -!- arha [~temp@188.25.105.160] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T00:52:52 < stvn> ok now i see the pic of it wedged into a mains outlet.... lol 2018-06-01T01:25:50 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 2018-06-01T01:28:22 < Cracki> they could have made it a choke... if it were one wire and two terminals 2018-06-01T01:28:23 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T01:29:05 < Cracki> hm wait, not quite 2018-06-01T01:40:58 -!- c4017w [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T01:41:20 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T01:46:41 < Thorn> how do you measure total radiated power of a device with a pcb antenna (so you can't connect it to a power meter using a cable)? 2018-06-01T01:48:12 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-45.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T01:50:03 < kakimir> what are you doings? 2018-06-01T01:50:48 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T01:51:08 < kakimir> what power meter? 2018-06-01T01:51:10 < Cracki> total radiated power? how exact do you want to be? you'd need to enclose the device completely and measure all power over the sphere 2018-06-01T01:52:07 < Cracki> measure antenna + transmitter 2018-06-01T01:52:20 < Cracki> cut traces of its power supply, and assume heat losses are 0 :P 2018-06-01T01:54:29 < kakimir> so inaccurate 2018-06-01T01:54:54 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-45.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-01T01:55:53 < Thorn> also, assuming you can use a cable, can you measure total power with a spectrum analyzer, or do you need a detector of some sort? 2018-06-01T01:57:27 < kakimir> if you don't have your antenna charactirized I bet no 2018-06-01T01:58:29 < kakimir> check stuff like "vna antenna measurements" 2018-06-01T02:00:18 < kakimir> maybe you should go to #rtlsdr or whatever the exact name of the channel is 2018-06-01T02:00:33 < kakimir> RF measurements are kind of niche stuff 2018-06-01T02:03:44 -!- inca [~inca@2600:1009:b050:72a6:b82d:55d4:cce6:f479] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T02:07:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-01T02:10:37 -!- Frans-Willem [~quassel@5468F048.cm-12-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-01T02:11:07 < stvn> a u t [ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/atari-vcs-game-stream-connect-like-never-before-computers-pc#/ ] i s m 2018-06-01T02:11:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T02:16:35 < stvn> [] y 2018-06-01T02:16:35 < stvn> [] n 2018-06-01T02:17:43 < aandrew> my brothers getting married this weekend. I probably shouldn't have waited to the last minute to write the speech 2018-06-01T02:19:54 < stvn> do it naked with a bottle of whiskey in your hand, then you can say anything 2018-06-01T02:20:51 < aandrew> hah 2018-06-01T02:22:27 < stvn> I have sister, she got married, had kids a few years later (this absolutely never happens in that order in .au) 2018-06-01T02:26:29 < stvn> 6 kids to 5 different men... no rock. 2018-06-01T02:26:33 < stvn> etc 2018-06-01T02:32:03 < aandrew> heh 2018-06-01T02:37:30 -!- DrLuke__ is now known as DrLuke 2018-06-01T02:38:26 -!- inca [~inca@2600:1009:b050:72a6:b82d:55d4:cce6:f479] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 2018-06-01T02:42:57 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T02:43:31 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T02:44:49 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T02:45:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T02:50:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T02:54:21 < Laurenceb_> sup 2018-06-01T02:55:46 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T03:03:55 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T03:07:34 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T03:28:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T03:39:36 < Cracki> good morning /b/ 2018-06-01T03:39:43 < Cracki> _ 2018-06-01T03:53:41 < dongs> Thorn: success. the faggot fixed wiring order onswd end, and stlink clone is working. despite being fw updated. 2018-06-01T03:53:46 < dongs> so yeah, it does take official fw update. 2018-06-01T03:54:22 < Thorn> so the update changed the pinout? 2018-06-01T03:56:04 < dongs> no 2018-06-01T03:56:12 < dongs> idiot had it wrong to begin with 2018-06-01T03:56:16 < dongs> so he thought "hey lets update firmware" 2018-06-01T03:56:20 < dongs> and it got worse after that 2018-06-01T03:56:44 < dongs> so i told to re-check the connections and shit was swapped, and after it got fixed its working 2018-06-01T03:58:12 < Thorn> lol programmers 2018-06-01T04:00:14 < Thorn> the only thing they know is software so the problem must be in the software 2018-06-01T04:00:26 < dongs> yeah, dicks 2018-06-01T04:00:53 < dongs> btw 2018-06-01T04:00:57 < dongs> Ozone depends on RDI license being present 2018-06-01T04:00:59 < dongs> in jlink 2018-06-01T04:01:06 < dongs> thats its trigger 2018-06-01T04:01:19 < dongs> not serial check or whether its pro/ultra/etc 2018-06-01T04:01:28 < dongs> i added RDI into .edu and it works fine 2018-06-01T04:01:30 < dongs> no begging 2018-06-01T04:03:49 < Thorn> dunno it seems to work without any nagging with my official genuine aliexpress j-link 2018-06-01T04:04:04 < dongs> yes, goto j-link license manager and click 'licenses in emulator' 2018-06-01T04:04:10 < dongs> cuz the clone trash already has the licenses in side 2018-06-01T04:14:16 < Laurenceb_> >licenses 2018-06-01T04:14:55 < Thorn> did you get your porn license yet Laurenceb_ 2018-06-01T04:15:00 < Laurenceb_> no 2018-06-01T04:15:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-01T04:15:11 < Laurenceb_> I'm gunna go to jail with Tommy Robinson 2018-06-01T04:15:20 < Laurenceb_> kiss good bye to my anal virginity 2018-06-01T04:17:28 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/GkjeNFi 2018-06-01T04:19:42 < stvn> would you say u-link is jew-link 2018-06-01T04:19:47 < stvn> it sounds similar enough 2018-06-01T04:22:47 < dongs> u-link is kinda garbage since it only works wiht keil 2018-06-01T04:33:14 < stvn> I have to report windows defender told me everything is OK 2018-06-01T04:39:45 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-01T04:48:07 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-01T04:48:27 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T04:52:05 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081F1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T04:55:27 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32524.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-01T05:03:13 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-01T05:03:15 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T05:17:49 < dongs> can PLL performance deteriorate over lifetime of a chip 2018-06-01T05:20:44 < Cracki> what is the PLL made of? caps? 2018-06-01T05:25:19 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-01T05:25:30 < stvn> attn dongs: https://youtu.be/nszIJDswTBM?t=1m15s 2018-06-01T05:28:32 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T05:28:47 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T05:32:20 < Cracki> uhhhh https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DekZOdLXkAA40_i.jpg:orig 2018-06-01T05:32:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T05:40:41 < Cracki> >_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DekPamdVQAE4X0A.jpg:orig 2018-06-01T05:41:17 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-01T06:34:46 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T06:36:43 -!- munki [munki@fm.synthte.ch] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T06:50:45 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-01T06:50:59 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T06:51:02 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T07:01:44 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T07:05:13 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T07:05:13 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-01T07:05:57 -!- con3_ [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T07:06:21 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-01T07:15:14 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T07:18:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T07:20:27 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-01T07:37:50 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T07:49:20 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-01T07:49:30 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T08:00:25 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T08:03:41 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T08:03:44 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-01T08:09:15 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-01T08:17:51 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-01T08:19:16 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T08:23:50 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T08:33:02 < Streaker> the PLL was made of cake 2018-06-01T09:05:41 < stvn> i would like to know more about the pll 2018-06-01T09:08:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-93ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T09:08:34 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T09:27:11 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T09:45:51 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T09:45:57 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-01T09:48:44 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-93ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T09:50:19 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyyc-zwt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T09:55:20 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T09:55:54 < con3> I started up my nucleo and I'm getting an overcurrent protection, I take it the board is fried :/ 2018-06-01T09:57:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T09:58:26 < m4t> ive had that happen where the regulator's output was shorted but once fixing the short (it was a metal standoff and exposed trace) it works fine 2018-06-01T09:58:40 < m4t> regulator had current limiting/overtemp as well 2018-06-01T10:00:07 < stvn> i am truly sorry for your lots 2018-06-01T10:00:41 < con3> Yep this sucks. can't see anything shorting also given it a good clean. Overcurrent keeps coming on. fml 2018-06-01T10:02:34 < dongs> wwhat did you hookup to it 2018-06-01T10:02:53 < dongs> STM usually fails shortcircuited when you ESD/etc fail it 2018-06-01T10:03:58 < con3> dongs: Had it coupled to the PC with a usb and a set of optocouplers, isolators to a seconday circuit 2018-06-01T10:04:10 < dongs> i guess its gone 2018-06-01T10:04:50 < con3> I completely agree, just going to try and diagnose what went wrong to prevent this in the future 2018-06-01T10:05:03 < dongs> swap the main chip. 2018-06-01T10:05:12 < dongs> got an IR camera? increase current limit and see if STM is heating up 2018-06-01T10:05:23 < dongs> which STm is it 2018-06-01T10:05:24 < dongs> series 2018-06-01T10:05:29 < con3> f722ze 2018-06-01T10:05:33 < dongs> shitty. 2018-06-01T10:05:39 < dongs> thats gonna be a cunt to swap 2018-06-01T10:06:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:07:27 < con3> I think its a little outside of my abilities to swap, but I'll ask someone who could probably do it 2018-06-01T10:07:28 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:07:51 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-01T10:09:04 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:09:29 < con3> Just hate blowing stuff. Feel like such a piece of shit when it happens 2018-06-01T10:11:49 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T10:15:45 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-01T10:16:45 < Streaker> there's a jumper on the board to allow you to measure how much current the mcu takes 2018-06-01T10:16:57 < stvn> get in the car morty 2018-06-01T10:16:59 < Streaker> open it and see if the shart goes away 2018-06-01T10:18:01 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:18:43 < Streaker> Is the board placed on a conductive surface? 2018-06-01T10:18:57 < con3> Streaker: Yep,removing the jumper and the prob goes away 2018-06-01T10:19:11 < con3> Board is placed on a wooden desk 2018-06-01T10:19:11 < Streaker> fuck 2018-06-01T10:19:17 < con3> MCU is blown. fuck 2018-06-01T10:20:23 < Streaker> It's odd that a shorted mcu causes over current on the pc 2018-06-01T10:20:54 < Streaker> I would have expected the voltage regulator's short circuit protection to kick in and shut down. 2018-06-01T10:21:12 < PeterM> to check if its a self clearing fault or not, connecto to mains 2018-06-01T10:21:19 < con3> I'm pretty lost myself 2018-06-01T10:21:20 < stvn> lol 2018-06-01T10:21:45 < PeterM> as dongs said, its likely esd that shorted something internally 2018-06-01T10:21:50 < con3> PeterM: good idea, one sec 2018-06-01T10:22:02 < stvn> ^ 2018-06-01T10:22:19 < Streaker> don't forget to film it for youtube 2018-06-01T10:22:45 < stvn> well that's the end of con 2018-06-01T10:23:12 < con3> Start a channel like electroboom ? 2018-06-01T10:23:18 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:23:22 < Streaker> yes! 2018-06-01T10:23:27 < stvn> sure 2018-06-01T10:23:47 < dongs> wait, what PC 2018-06-01T10:23:48 < stvn> appeal to the lowest common denominator 2018-06-01T10:23:51 < stvn> you'll be good 2018-06-01T10:23:55 < dongs> are ytou plgugging the shit to PC usb or something? 2018-06-01T10:24:03 < dongs> i thought you were powering it from lab supply 2018-06-01T10:24:49 < Streaker> same shit different butthole 2018-06-01T10:25:42 < con3> I've been alternating between the two. super current limited thelab supply 2018-06-01T10:29:13 < stvn> ty 2018-06-01T10:29:34 < con3> hmm 2018-06-01T10:31:22 < kakimir> what it is called when loop begins from begin again? 2018-06-01T10:31:26 < kakimir> reset? 2018-06-01T10:31:30 < kakimir> flip? 2018-06-01T10:31:54 < kakimir> return to begin? 2018-06-01T10:32:01 < Haohmaru> kakimir, do you mean in C/C++ ? 2018-06-01T10:32:08 < kakimir> certainly nothing else 2018-06-01T10:32:12 < Haohmaru> continue 2018-06-01T10:32:14 < dongs> kakimir: continue? 2018-06-01T10:32:19 < kakimir> okay 2018-06-01T10:32:20 < kakimir> nice 2018-06-01T10:32:24 < kakimir> didn't know that 2018-06-01T10:32:45 < kakimir> I need my comments and variable names to be exact 2018-06-01T10:32:48 < Haohmaru> try not to make an infinite loop nao 2018-06-01T10:33:07 < kakimir> I already have done 2018-06-01T10:33:13 < Haohmaru> aww 2018-06-01T10:33:17 < kakimir> it's called mainloop 2018-06-01T10:37:02 < kakimir> I wonder if I should go to higher UART speeds 2018-06-01T10:37:19 < kakimir> currrently 115200 2018-06-01T10:37:31 < Haohmaru> where is that used? 2018-06-01T10:37:54 < kakimir> I have my application to vomit all kind of data thru that 2018-06-01T10:38:01 < Haohmaru> into what 2018-06-01T10:38:07 < kakimir> I may even leave it on at production version 2018-06-01T10:39:00 < kakimir> so if there is something wrong with a device just plug in uart - rs232 adapter and see the process running from terminal 2018-06-01T10:39:11 < stvn> this is a fucking infinite loop 2018-06-01T10:39:42 < Haohmaru> i remember disrupting the FM radio at the office by having a stupid pic12f run a 4MHz (i think) square wave on one of its pins.. not connected to anything 2018-06-01T10:40:03 < kakimir> how fast square wave? 2018-06-01T10:40:17 < kakimir> I have one pin that is not connected to anything 2018-06-01T10:40:20 < kakimir> and I drive it 2018-06-01T10:40:36 < kakimir> timer match controls it 2018-06-01T10:40:45 < Haohmaru> but that office had terrible radio reception and our "antenna" was a joke 2018-06-01T10:41:03 < kakimir> well in that condition you receive anything with that radio 2018-06-01T10:41:05 < Haohmaru> anyways, if your bitrate doesn't match well - be prepared for broken data 2018-06-01T10:41:28 < Haohmaru> 115200 sounds decent IMO 2018-06-01T10:41:29 < kakimir> I think I need to make a uart enable pin 2018-06-01T10:41:34 < Haohmaru> unless you're uber verbose 2018-06-01T10:41:53 < kakimir> do you think I plan to use halfassed bitrates 2018-06-01T10:42:20 < Haohmaru> are you using a magical crystal? 2018-06-01T10:42:53 < Haohmaru> do you have little pauses between each byte you send out? 2018-06-01T10:43:07 < kakimir> well certainly 2018-06-01T10:43:14 < kakimir> I send 1byte at time 2018-06-01T10:43:21 < Haohmaru> or are they glued together tightly as phugg 2018-06-01T10:43:33 < Haohmaru> meh 2018-06-01T10:43:48 < Haohmaru> ur being sloppy ;P~ 2018-06-01T10:44:04 < kakimir> certainly next byte might be ready when transmitter holding register is released 2018-06-01T10:44:13 < kakimir> depending on what I'm sending 2018-06-01T10:44:25 < kakimir> if it's just a string 2018-06-01T10:44:30 < Haohmaru> but sure, then it has better chances to work despite bitrate issues 2018-06-01T10:44:48 < kakimir> when exactly? 2018-06-01T10:44:57 < kakimir> when you leave room there? 2018-06-01T10:44:59 < Haohmaru> if you have pauses between the bites 2018-06-01T10:45:01 < Haohmaru> * bytes 2018-06-01T10:45:07 < kakimir> bites yes 2018-06-01T10:45:12 < Haohmaru> >:( 2018-06-01T10:46:34 < Haohmaru> (and of course, your data rate is effectively lower if ya put empty gaps in there) 2018-06-01T10:47:34 < Haohmaru> for vomiting useful debug stuff, i use interrupt-driven transmit, with a chunk FIFO, so that i can abuse printf() without caring much 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- jonsowman [sid155658@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-thzoebqgpdnbieqq] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- aadamson [aadamson@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe70:2dc9] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- qyx [~qyx@gw2.krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- HorizonBreak [sid131374@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shrbdktlyobqzrqd] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- scrotal_b [sid118777@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fnyjkdithlrcggoy] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- sferrini [sid115350@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygkymzrjdkbnxhjd] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- tcurdt [~tcurdt@5.189.136.58] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:36 -!- gxti [~gxti@columbia.partiallystapled.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:47:40 -!- sferrini [sid115350@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygkymzrjdkbnxhjd] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2018-06-01T10:48:34 < Haohmaru> (i've not looked yet into this DMA thing) 2018-06-01T10:49:26 -!- sferrini [sid115350@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntawtvlyaucozhcn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T10:49:38 < dongs> wut 2018-06-01T10:49:49 < dongs> how do you not overrun your fifo by dumping random prinft trash 2018-06-01T10:50:17 < Haohmaru> overrun? 2018-06-01T10:50:38 < Haohmaru> filling it up to the max? 2018-06-01T10:50:41 < dongs> yeah i mean if I printf a mile of shit ionto 80x25 console 2018-06-01T10:50:42 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-01T10:50:50 < dongs> and uart out cant keep up 2018-06-01T10:51:04 < Haohmaru> my FIFO turns into blocking transmit then 2018-06-01T10:51:10 < dongs> yeah thats boring 2018-06-01T10:51:13 < dongs> i did that and its shit 2018-06-01T10:51:24 < dongs> i was hoping you solved the problem correctly 2018-06-01T10:51:29 < Haohmaru> it's fine, i don't print THAT much crap 2018-06-01T10:51:38 < Haohmaru> my FIFO is usually chunky 2018-06-01T10:51:45 < Haohmaru> like.. 128 bytes or so 2018-06-01T10:53:46 < dongs> fuck, what the hell 2018-06-01T10:53:57 < dongs> yesterday i spent 3 hours figuring out why my stm32flash on stm32 wasn't working 2018-06-01T10:54:02 < dongs> but i didnt have a scope 2018-06-01T10:54:07 < dongs> today i hook shit up to scope to see whats wrong 2018-06-01T10:54:09 < dongs> and its wroking 2018-06-01T10:54:24 < Haohmaru> those are my favorite kinds of bugs 2018-06-01T10:54:58 < Haohmaru> solution: ship a scope with the product 2018-06-01T10:54:59 < dongs> ok, at least it doesnt work when scope is disconnected 2018-06-01T10:55:01 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-01T10:55:46 < Haohmaru> my nose tells me you should check your grounding.. and/or see if you missing a pull resistor somewhere at the spot where you're probing 2018-06-01T10:56:22 < Haohmaru> try also with just a multimeter instead of the scope 2018-06-01T10:57:14 < stvn> gah those dogs 2018-06-01T10:58:56 < Haohmaru> aaaah, i love this qpdfview for looking at pdfs 2018-06-01T10:59:21 < dongs> fuck. yeah. it only fails wiht scope connected to usart_tx. 2018-06-01T10:59:27 < dongs> ... 2018-06-01T11:03:20 < Haohmaru> wait, now it fails *with* the scope? 2018-06-01T11:03:42 < Haohmaru> did you invert the bug? ;P~ 2018-06-01T11:06:31 < stvn> https://youtu.be/rgRSON2yjMs?t=2m40s 2018-06-01T11:10:12 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T11:12:52 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T11:18:37 < dongs> err yeah 2018-06-01T11:18:38 < dongs> i meant 2018-06-01T11:18:42 < dongs> it only works wiht scope connected 2018-06-01T11:18:45 < dongs> and not just scope gnd either 2018-06-01T11:18:48 < dongs> so its not ground issue 2018-06-01T11:19:06 < Haohmaru> how about if you put the probe on 10X? 2018-06-01T11:19:47 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T11:19:55 < dongs> its 10x already. 2018-06-01T11:20:00 < Haohmaru> ooh 2018-06-01T11:20:14 < Haohmaru> well, it gets funky then 2018-06-01T11:20:28 * Haohmaru plays: the_x-files_theme.mp3 2018-06-01T11:21:30 < PaulFertser> dongs: do you use some kind of termination for the uart link, how long is it? 2018-06-01T11:21:53 < dongs> nope its jsut some jumper wires. 2018-06-01T11:21:57 < dongs> its not even fast. 2018-06-01T11:22:23 < dongs> i got an idea for something gonna check if its related 2018-06-01T11:22:24 < PaulFertser> Fast doesn't matter when you connect a high-speed CMOS output to a high-Z CMOS input. 2018-06-01T11:22:39 < PaulFertser> What's the drive strength / speed of your Tx pin? 2018-06-01T11:22:46 < dongs> default 2018-06-01T11:23:04 < dongs> 50mhz looks like 2018-06-01T11:23:07 < dongs> i.e. highest or whatever 2018-06-01T11:23:18 < PaulFertser> So that might give you ringing indeed. 2018-06-01T11:23:27 < dongs> lemme try on2 and see 2018-06-01T11:28:12 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T11:28:29 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T11:28:49 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T11:29:26 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@69.36.183.45] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T11:31:18 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T11:33:44 < dongs> worked at 2mhz 2018-06-01T11:54:15 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-01T11:55:37 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T12:00:25 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-01T12:04:48 < Hamilton> Any favorite Serial Terminal program? I use RealTerm. It's got many features but the actual console is very limiting 2018-06-01T12:12:26 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@69.36.183.45] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T12:12:28 < Haohmaru> i made my own cuz i needed some different behaviour 2018-06-01T12:12:53 < Haohmaru> i also can talk to serial from mIRC ;P~ 2018-06-01T12:13:33 < Haohmaru> but that's a bit moar fragile 2018-06-01T12:13:37 < Haohmaru> mIRC has no threads 2018-06-01T12:14:38 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@69.36.183.45] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T12:16:12 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@69.36.183.45] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T12:16:43 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@69.36.183.45] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T12:17:21 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-01T12:18:18 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@69.36.183.45] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T12:18:44 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.196.80] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T12:19:11 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T12:21:08 < Haohmaru> Hamilton, u move too much 2018-06-01T12:22:54 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, You mean my net connection? 2018-06-01T12:24:43 < Haohmaru> yes 2018-06-01T12:25:03 < Haohmaru> i use realterm as a backup (almost never) 2018-06-01T12:25:29 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, Sorry my net is ridiculous and hexchat auto-connects 2018-06-01T12:25:41 < Haohmaru> is it wifi? 2018-06-01T12:26:01 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, Yes, but the whole internet is shitty here 2018-06-01T12:27:20 < Haohmaru> and on top of that - you don't even have a cable ;P~ 2018-06-01T12:28:55 < Hamilton> wait, is RealTerm written in delphi? :| 2018-06-01T12:29:03 < Hamilton> TIL, https://sourceforge.net/p/realterm/news/ 2018-06-01T12:31:36 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T12:39:26 < Haohmaru> pretty much most programs for dealing with serial ports tend to be written in some obscure language 2018-06-01T12:39:36 < Haohmaru> like python or who knows what 2018-06-01T12:40:05 < Haohmaru> cuz dealing with serial ports in C/C++ is not too nice 2018-06-01T12:45:02 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, I can't even download v3! Why the latest version in SF is not 3? The dev site is even down! 2018-06-01T12:45:26 < Hamilton> http://www.i2cchip.com/realterm 2018-06-01T12:45:50 < Haohmaru> there used to be some "earthquakes" some months ago in sourceforge 2018-06-01T12:45:56 < Haohmaru> no idea 2018-06-01T12:59:35 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T13:00:01 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-01T13:16:14 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-01T13:16:39 < dongs> Haohmaru: hercules setup 2018-06-01T13:17:03 < Haohmaru> que? 2018-06-01T13:17:13 < dongs> oh err 2018-06-01T13:17:19 < dongs> hamilton was asking for serial program 2018-06-01T13:17:20 < dongs> Hamilton: ^ 2018-06-01T13:18:12 < Haohmaru> oh, one more thing, on windows, i've used iirc "com0com" which makes virtual com ports 2018-06-01T13:18:37 < PeterM> bloody hell, looking at a dude servicing a ZF 6HP26 transmission, shit is like 40x as complicated as any manual transmission ive looked at 2018-06-01T13:18:38 < Haohmaru> i used two of these with a custom program to be able to sniff what's going on between some program and some device 2018-06-01T13:19:00 < Hamilton> dongs, Thanks, will look into that 2018-06-01T13:19:28 < Hamilton> PeterM, Yeah, I've used that excellent utility. Very nifty tool of you want to replay the packets to a PC client 2018-06-01T13:20:28 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, oops bad mentioning. ncom0com yeah 2018-06-01T13:21:06 < Haohmaru> what's going on here? is there a virus that causes corruption of the ##stm32 stack/pointers? 2018-06-01T13:21:59 < PeterM> someone who is tabslexic 2018-06-01T13:22:25 < Haohmaru> don't laugh cuz you might be infected too! 2018-06-01T13:22:50 * Haohmaru puts on a mask 2018-06-01T13:26:03 < Haohmaru> symptoms first seen in dongs 2018-06-01T13:39:15 < dongs> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/itNmgJj3Xf8;context-place=forum/chrome haha 2018-06-01T13:40:38 < Haohmaru> press ctrl+z QUICK 2018-06-01T13:43:47 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T13:44:25 < Haohmaru> gmail, one more way to be trolled by google 2018-06-01T13:48:38 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-01T13:51:08 < Hamilton> dongs, (Stefan == Steffanx)? 2018-06-01T13:51:14 < dongs> fucked if i know 2018-06-01T13:51:19 < Hamilton> :D 2018-06-01T13:51:26 < dongs> ask stffn 2018-06-01T13:54:45 < dongs> err, on STM without 485 support, can I just use RTS signal as RE/DE driver? 2018-06-01T13:56:11 < zyp> no 2018-06-01T13:56:27 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/52/57/b8/e4/08/38/43/cd/CD00249778.pdf/files/CD00249778.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00249778.pdf 2018-06-01T13:56:46 < dongs> hm thats the one ive seen before 2018-06-01T13:56:48 < jpa-> RTS is output based on receiver state, not transmitter state 2018-06-01T13:56:57 < zyp> yes 2018-06-01T13:56:59 < dongs> im talking about USART_RTS 2018-06-01T13:57:05 < dongs> isnt that output? 2018-06-01T13:57:12 < dongs> Ready_To_Send 2018-06-01T13:57:34 < jpa-> yes, but it means "does receiver have data in buffer", not "is transmitter transmitting" which is what you'd want 2018-06-01T13:58:14 < jpa-> if you used RTS, it would just switch the transmitter on after every byte you receive, but leave the transmitter off when you actually try to transmit.. 2018-06-01T13:58:19 < Thorn> ln lpc8 there is a config bit to turn RTS into DE 2018-06-01T13:58:34 < dongs> https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http://aquaticus.info/sites/default/files/styles/adaptive/public/more_images/RS485%2520to%2520RS232%2520Converter%2520Schematic.png&f=1 2018-06-01T13:59:31 < jpa-> AFAIK using RTS as DE on PC requires the software to manually toggle the RTS pin, kind of like gpio 2018-06-01T13:59:48 < Hamilton> RTS stands for Request to send and it is output of Transmitter side 2018-06-01T13:59:50 < dongs> how do those cheap fuck chinese USB>485 dongles work 2018-06-01T13:59:53 < dongs> oh request 2018-06-01T14:00:15 < jpa-> or perhaps it would work for if it was the ooold RTS/CTS/DTR/DSR flow control 2018-06-01T14:00:34 < jpa-> but STM32 only implements the newer RTS/CTS mode where RTS is from receiver, not transmitter side 2018-06-01T14:02:51 < jpa-> Hamilton: afaik no, i can't see RTS ever being from transmitter side, i think "request to send" means "i'm ready to receive" and it is from receiver side; atleast in stm32 docs and in https://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO-19.html 2018-06-01T14:03:21 < Hamilton> Then what does CTS==clear to send mean? 2018-06-01T14:03:36 < jpa-> the same, but in other direction 2018-06-01T14:03:50 < jpa-> the names are confusing, i agree 2018-06-01T14:03:58 < Hamilton> Ideally CTS would be connected to receiver (as output) and it signals that all ok in RX side so TX can send 2018-06-01T14:04:28 < dongs> which way does re/de go for transmit? 2018-06-01T14:04:31 < dongs> high or low 2018-06-01T14:04:33 < jpa-> sure, each signal is at one side connected to receiver and one side connected to transmitter; always as output on receiver side and input on transmitter side 2018-06-01T14:04:36 < dongs> transmit is low right 2018-06-01T14:04:38 < dongs> and receive is high? 2018-06-01T14:04:51 < jpa-> re? de? 2018-06-01T14:04:58 < jpa-> ah, on rs485 chip 2018-06-01T14:05:00 < dongs> when they're ganged 2018-06-01T14:05:00 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-01T14:05:11 < Thorn> rts = "I have data to send", cts = "ok, send it"? 2018-06-01T14:05:16 < Thorn> re is active low, de is active high 2018-06-01T14:05:17 < jpa-> your datasheet should probably tell you 2018-06-01T14:05:26 < Thorn> normally 2018-06-01T14:05:32 < Hamilton> Thorn, That's what I think is true 2018-06-01T14:05:34 < dongs> ya im lazy. ive written it before but it looks like all ahrdware that didnt have usart_485 support got removed 2018-06-01T14:05:36 < jpa-> Thorn: you'd think so, but no, i can't see RTS ever having been "I have data to send", and certainly is not so on STM32 (see e.g. ref man) 2018-06-01T14:05:38 < Thorn> so you can connect them both together 2018-06-01T14:05:38 < dongs> and the code is gone too 2018-06-01T14:05:50 < Haohmaru> aaah, serial communication confusion 2018-06-01T14:05:53 < jpa-> Thorn: can you find any reference that would indicate that meaning for RTS? 2018-06-01T14:06:10 < Thorn> no idea lol 2018-06-01T14:06:28 < dongs> Thorn: so the other way around, low to TX and high to rx? 2018-06-01T14:06:33 < Thorn> yet another thing to research to add to my list 2018-06-01T14:06:48 < jpa-> not worth it, no-one uses rts/cts anymore 2018-06-01T14:06:59 < dongs> what do tehy use for flow control 2018-06-01T14:07:28 < jpa-> usually application level acknowledge, e.g. you post some request, other side says "OK" when it is done processing it 2018-06-01T14:07:40 < Thorn> >Receiver Output Enable. RO is enabled when RE is low 2018-06-01T14:07:43 < jpa-> with enough buffer space to store one full request 2018-06-01T14:07:44 < Thorn> >Driver Output Enable. The driver outputs, Y and Z, are enabled by bringing DE high. They are high impedance when DE is low. 2018-06-01T14:08:05 < Thorn> DE & /RE 2018-06-01T14:08:18 < dongs> kay 2018-06-01T14:08:37 < Thorn> I always connect them together as I said, so high = transmit, low = receive 2018-06-01T14:09:12 < Thorn> if you want to put the driver into low power mode you will need 2 separate signals 2018-06-01T14:09:36 < Thorn> but I'm not sure when that would be possible, maybe if 'enable rs-485' is a config option in your device 2018-06-01T14:16:31 < Hamilton> jpa-, It seems you are correct: https://imgur.com/a/3Oj2gKA 2018-06-01T14:16:42 < Hamilton> Request to send is attached always to RX 2018-06-01T14:17:16 < Hamilton> and Clear to Send always to TX....CTS is always connected to RTS 2018-06-01T14:18:29 < Thorn> ok so RTS means "you can send data" and CTS is the input for remote RTS 2018-06-01T14:19:01 < jpa-> sure, i did read the STM32 reference manual - but that is only the ST implementation of the modern RTS/CTS method, the names come from waaaaay older stuff 2018-06-01T14:19:30 < jpa-> i'm surprised that so many people irc on this channel without having their reference manuals open... 2018-06-01T14:20:04 < Thorn> let met check the lpc8 UM 2018-06-01T14:20:14 < Hamilton> jpa-, You mean me? :) I was trusting another source 2018-06-01T14:20:17 < Thorn> annoying isn't it 2018-06-01T14:21:19 < Hamilton> But why RTS is connected to CTS? And it was more logical for RTS to be connected to transmitter side imo 2018-06-01T14:21:22 < Thorn> yeah it's the same in lpc8 2018-06-01T14:21:37 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800fe36007dfc1ca09ce02dc7.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T14:21:45 < Drzacek> Hello there 2018-06-01T14:22:18 < jpa-> Hamilton: but why would you want to delay sending by first giving "I'd like to send data" signal? the wire is there anyway, so the other side might constantly give "ready to receive" info over it 2018-06-01T14:22:43 < Drzacek> I'm using that eclipse-based ide (system workbench) - how can I add 3rd party libraries to use with my projects? 2018-06-01T14:23:25 < Hamilton> jpa-, Idk, what was the point of two adding another two wires (CTS/RTS lines) itself? 2018-06-01T14:23:44 < jpa-> Hamilton: uh, are you asking what is the point of flow control? 2018-06-01T14:24:04 < jpa-> it's just so that the receiving device can signal when its buffers are full 2018-06-01T14:24:16 < Hamilton> jpa-, I mean if they added those 2 wires, it could be that way that requests and acknowledgment would be offloaded to 2 wires 2018-06-01T14:24:44 < jpa-> um, if you used both of the wires for one direction, what would you use for the other direction? 2018-06-01T14:24:57 < jpa-> one of the wires is for A->B, the other wire is for B->A 2018-06-01T14:25:20 < Hamilton> jpa-, Good point 2018-06-01T14:25:51 < jpa-> i've just learned to count to 2 and now i got to apply that knowledge! 2018-06-01T14:26:36 < Hamilton> jpa-; incrementing in decimal, one RS232 at a time 2018-06-01T14:26:53 < dongs> wtf 2018-06-01T14:26:58 < dongs> my usart shit is broken again 2018-06-01T14:27:00 < dongs> and i changed nothing 2018-06-01T14:27:01 < dongs> fuck 2018-06-01T14:27:29 < Hamilton> dongs, maybe something blocks the peripheral? 2018-06-01T14:28:09 < dongs> no this is test code so im just running it straight in main() after init 2018-06-01T14:28:18 < dongs> again works with scope connected... 2018-06-01T14:28:18 < dongs> fuck 2018-06-01T14:28:48 < Hamilton> dongs, You used CH340 for USB<->UART? 2018-06-01T14:28:58 < dongs> no 2018-06-01T14:29:03 < dongs> this is not 485 2018-06-01T14:33:19 < Thorn> yesterday I had a cold solder joint that was only passing the first 2 bytes of each packet (rs-485) 2018-06-01T14:33:35 < Thorn> how much logic can you fit in a solder joint 2018-06-01T14:40:40 < jpa-> if you have enough voltage, you can construct any logic circuit by making semiconductive cold joints 2018-06-01T14:41:20 < jpa-> registers are harder 2018-06-01T15:08:31 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T15:13:12 < Hamilton> Any shortcuts to quick cast in Eclipse? For example foo((uint_8t) a, .... 2018-06-01T15:13:25 < Hamilton> How can I do "(uint8_t)" with a shortcut? 2018-06-01T15:13:44 < Hamilton> I mean the parenthesis? 2018-06-01T15:15:09 < Haohmaru> aww 2018-06-01T15:18:03 < Haohmaru> uint8_t|, hold shift, press left till you select the keyword, press delete, let go of shift, type (), press left, shift+insert 2018-06-01T15:18:36 < Haohmaru> actually, shift+ctrl+left might jump to the start of the keyword 2018-06-01T15:18:43 < Haohmaru> depends on its surroundings 2018-06-01T15:19:56 < Haohmaru> also, say goodbye to whatever you had in your clipboard ;P~ 2018-06-01T15:22:56 < tct> guys, I have a button that's connected to three GPIOs of three different chips (like a reset connected to three STM32s). I use a 100k pull-up. is it possible that that's too high? I tried with 47k and the voltage levels got better. now with 1k everything seems to work but I feel like 47k should do the trick. is there a thumb rule? 2018-06-01T15:24:24 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T15:24:33 < Haohmaru> wait, are the reset pins of 3 different chips connected together?! 2018-06-01T15:24:36 < BrainDamage> yes, it is possible, each gpio will have some current leakage, the pullup has to provide enough current to counter it 2018-06-01T15:25:00 < kakimir> it would be nice that serial terminal would sync to certain string 2018-06-01T15:25:18 < Haohmaru> kakimir, wut'cha mean? 2018-06-01T15:25:19 < BrainDamage> load too many in parallel and you need to reduce the pullup impedance 2018-06-01T15:26:14 < tct> BrainDamage, so the button is connected to a smart reset chip and to two pins of the STM32 (a regular GPIO and the wakeup pin). Do you feel like adding the internal pull-ups to that 100k external one should be enough? 2018-06-01T15:26:14 < Haohmaru> tct, if the datasheet suggest 10k for the chip, and you tie two chips together then put 5k ;P~ 2018-06-01T15:26:24 < tct> Haohmaru, no shit ;-) 2018-06-01T15:26:39 < kakimir> Haohmaru, that top of display would be always synced to mainloop continue separator 2018-06-01T15:26:46 < tct> BrainDamage, do you happen to know the pull-up value (range) of an STM32(L0)? I couldn't find it in the datasheet so far 2018-06-01T15:26:53 < kakimir> so that all the datapoints would stay in place 2018-06-01T15:26:59 < kakimir> only numbers would change 2018-06-01T15:27:37 < Haohmaru> kakimir, uhm.. CR maybe? 2018-06-01T15:27:41 < Haohmaru> \r 2018-06-01T15:27:56 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T15:27:58 < BrainDamage> i think it was 33k, but i am terrible with remembering numbers, do don't rely on it 2018-06-01T15:27:59 < kakimir> I have CR LF in end of every line 2018-06-01T15:28:15 < kakimir> stuff just isn't synched to display 2018-06-01T15:28:37 < kakimir> but only when display height is just right 2018-06-01T15:28:58 < kakimir> the uart vomit then "stands in place" 2018-06-01T15:29:19 < c10ud> your terminal needs to interpret cr lf 2018-06-01T15:29:35 < c10ud> otherwise they're just non printable chars 2018-06-01T15:31:18 < tct> BrainDamage, thx 2018-06-01T15:31:39 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, was looking for a shortcut actually :) 2018-06-01T15:31:44 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T15:31:59 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T15:32:12 < Hamilton> ok How to continue a long #define in next line? \ doesn't work 2018-06-01T15:32:43 < Hamilton> or is it \\? 2018-06-01T15:34:10 < Haohmaru> how does \ not work?! 2018-06-01T15:34:31 < Haohmaru> #define BLAH wub = \ 2018-06-01T15:34:36 < Haohmaru> dub; 2018-06-01T15:35:34 < kakimir> try to remove spaces 2018-06-01T15:35:44 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, #define "a very long string" 2018-06-01T15:35:53 < Hamilton> when I put \, it prints tabs 2018-06-01T15:36:00 < Haohmaru> if you have a long string - why not split it? 2018-06-01T15:36:14 < Haohmaru> "wub wub wub" " dub dub dub" 2018-06-01T15:36:17 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T15:36:25 < kakimir> lemme check that for you 2018-06-01T15:36:25 < Haohmaru> you should be able to put a \ between those two 2018-06-01T15:36:28 < kakimir> I have done that 2018-06-01T15:36:56 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, Doesn't work. Eclipse C parser complains 2018-06-01T15:37:27 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-01T15:37:49 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, Ah "wub wub wub" \ " dub dub dub" seem to work for now 2018-06-01T15:37:50 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T15:37:51 < Hamilton> thanks 2018-06-01T15:38:04 < Haohmaru> you need something that compiles or something that tickles eclipse's autism? 2018-06-01T15:38:18 < kakimir> https://pastebin.com/Qt55PSPP 2018-06-01T15:38:34 < Haohmaru> omg, kakimir 2018-06-01T15:38:37 < Haohmaru> my eyes x_x 2018-06-01T15:38:42 < kakimir> if you have backslashs in string 2018-06-01T15:38:46 < kakimir> you need to double them 2018-06-01T15:39:00 < Haohmaru> wtf is this 2018-06-01T15:39:07 < Haohmaru> he just has a loooong string 2018-06-01T15:39:23 < kakimir> if you have \ in string - double it 2018-06-01T15:39:35 < kakimir> then put \ to split 2018-06-01T15:39:36 < Haohmaru> he doesn't need a \ inside the string 2018-06-01T15:39:50 < kakimir> look again 2018-06-01T15:39:59 < kakimir> those are all doubled 2018-06-01T15:40:01 < kakimir> \\ 2018-06-01T15:40:15 < Haohmaru> mm.. okei boss 2018-06-01T15:40:17 < kakimir> that actually works so 2018-06-01T15:40:26 < kakimir> it doesn't look like that on uart vomit 2018-06-01T15:40:40 < kakimir> because of all \\ stuff in it 2018-06-01T15:41:45 < Haohmaru> we were talking about the \ char which is used in macros to continue the macro onto the next line 2018-06-01T15:41:57 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-01T15:42:01 < kakimir> \ works 2018-06-01T15:42:02 < Haohmaru> but you can't do #define somestring "long \ 2018-06-01T15:42:05 < Haohmaru> string" 2018-06-01T15:42:11 < kakimir> look at my codes 2018-06-01T15:42:26 < kakimir> it proofen 2018-06-01T15:42:28 < Haohmaru> my eyes puke when i do 2018-06-01T15:42:38 < Haohmaru> did you compile it? 2018-06-01T15:42:42 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-01T15:42:43 < Hamilton> kakimir, (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━ 2018-06-01T15:42:46 < kakimir> no problems 2018-06-01T15:44:43 < Haohmaru> well, i wouldn't write it like that tbh 2018-06-01T15:46:03 < kakimir> I did 2018-06-01T15:46:51 < Haohmaru> GUILTY 2018-06-01T15:47:19 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uTE6PNDH5vqLFHFYjr83JKcwlEhWuo0x/view?usp=sharing I would love to have that --- BEGINING OF THE MAINLOOP --- to stay in place 2018-06-01T15:48:15 < Haohmaru> you don't want that whole chunk of text to go down, you want to get re-printed in the same place? 2018-06-01T15:48:24 < kakimir> and stuff until next such would come in order after that 2018-06-01T15:48:44 < kakimir> when it sleeps 50ms or so it goes like 1000km/h up 2018-06-01T15:48:48 < kakimir> can not see anything 2018-06-01T15:49:39 < Haohmaru> have i told you that drive.google is one of the most annoying ways to look at a picture? 2018-06-01T15:49:46 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-01T15:49:53 < zyp> kakimir, put a form feed at the beginning of the line? 2018-06-01T15:50:08 < kakimir> form feed? 2018-06-01T15:50:18 < Hamilton> \r? 2018-06-01T15:50:31 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T15:50:32 < Haohmaru> \r alone won't cut it 2018-06-01T15:51:05 < Haohmaru> maybe if there was a symbol like "clear the screen" or "return to position 0,0 2018-06-01T15:51:10 < Haohmaru> " 2018-06-01T15:51:31 < kakimir> there is I bet 2018-06-01T15:51:52 < Haohmaru> consult realterm's docummentation 2018-06-01T15:52:02 < Haohmaru> ..with 2018-06-01T15:52:17 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-01T15:52:41 < Hamilton> clear the screen = "\033[2J" 2018-06-01T15:52:52 < Haohmaru> kakimir, and it's downsampled 2018-06-01T15:52:54 < Hamilton> "return to position 0,0" = "\033[0;0H" 2018-06-01T15:53:09 < Hamilton> in ANSI standard 2018-06-01T15:53:44 < zyp> kakimir, \f 2018-06-01T15:53:54 < kakimir> I'll try \f 2018-06-01T15:56:29 < kakimir> no need to clear the screen? 2018-06-01T15:56:56 < kakimir> it just effectivelly moves display up until it's clear? 2018-06-01T15:57:59 < kakimir> did nothing 2018-06-01T15:58:11 < kakimir> I see it though 2018-06-01T15:58:19 < kakimir> as special symbol on screen 2018-06-01T16:00:04 < kakimir> Hamilton, can you reffer to those symbols as web ur? 2018-06-01T16:00:09 < kakimir> url 2018-06-01T16:00:11 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-01T16:00:49 < Haohmaru> kakimir, wikipedia has some interesting info about old-school terminals and their special escape chars 2018-06-01T16:01:19 < zyp> kakimir, if it did nothing except gets printed as a FF marker, it's because your terminal does nothing with it 2018-06-01T16:01:37 < kakimir> okay 2018-06-01T16:01:44 < kakimir> I change my terminal 2018-06-01T16:01:47 < Hamilton> kakimir, You mean whether I got it from a website? No I didn't 2018-06-01T16:01:47 < kakimir> recommendations? 2018-06-01T16:01:49 < zyp> kakimir, at this point, we can't assume your terminal implements any other tricks either, so you should rather try a different terminal 2018-06-01T16:02:07 < kakimir> zyp, please recommend some terminal 2018-06-01T16:02:09 < Hamilton> kakimir, RealTerm 2018-06-01T16:02:21 < zyp> I usually just use screen 2018-06-01T16:02:27 < Hamilton> Rendering those symbols I mentioned just fine 2018-06-01T16:02:31 < zyp> on windows I use putty 2018-06-01T16:02:32 < kakimir> win10 2018-06-01T16:02:36 < kakimir> okay 2018-06-01T16:02:54 < Thorn> I use CoolTerm in mac os 2018-06-01T16:03:27 < kakimir> okay putty actually shows some shiet 2018-06-01T16:03:36 < kakimir> it's now standing still 2018-06-01T16:03:42 < kakimir> blinking but working 2018-06-01T16:04:27 < kakimir> this is nice 2018-06-01T16:04:35 < kakimir> thanks zypper 2018-06-01T16:05:48 < Haohmaru> putty is almost a vulgar word in my language 2018-06-01T16:06:00 < kakimir> it is 2018-06-01T16:06:09 < kakimir> vulgur but works 2018-06-01T16:07:01 < kakimir> there is modes in my application that include no sleeping 2018-06-01T16:07:14 < kakimir> then this stuff just doesn't work that well 2018-06-01T16:07:25 < kakimir> it can print only like 5lines and it already clears it 2018-06-01T16:07:31 < kakimir> of 20-30 lines 2018-06-01T16:07:38 < kakimir> but I can always go back 2018-06-01T16:07:50 < kakimir> halt and go back with scrolling 2018-06-01T16:09:24 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T16:18:49 < Hamilton> OK seems like RealTerm can not render color (Putty can) 2018-06-01T16:19:00 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-01T16:21:09 * Haohmaru predicts rainbow ASCII vomits 2018-06-01T16:21:51 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-01T16:22:01 < kakimir> I need to rainbow this 2018-06-01T16:22:09 < englishman> NRF52840 has a cool footprint 2018-06-01T16:22:09 < kakimir> I can color code shiet 2018-06-01T16:22:31 < kakimir> time to go> 2018-06-01T16:22:42 < englishman> AQFN73 2018-06-01T16:23:17 < englishman> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5582373/ 2018-06-01T16:27:57 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T16:41:15 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, haha, already did that...But seems like not all modes are supported (underline, high intensity, ...) 2018-06-01T16:41:25 < Hamilton> englishman, It even got USB stack 2018-06-01T16:53:12 < Haohmaru> aww noes, vomit in reduced color palette 2018-06-01T16:53:24 < Haohmaru> need 32bit true-color vomit 2018-06-01T17:17:38 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:18:58 < Thorn> attn englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEmKDzaN8kA 2018-06-01T17:19:51 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-01T17:20:08 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:21:29 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:24:04 -!- _enhering_ [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:24:18 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T17:24:45 < jadew> Laurenceb, are you around? 2018-06-01T17:25:38 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:25:39 < Laurenceb__> I'm b& 2018-06-01T17:25:46 < jadew> hey 2018-06-01T17:25:51 < Laurenceb__> sup 2018-06-01T17:26:01 < jadew> I want to launch a baloon with my son 2018-06-01T17:26:08 < Laurenceb__> sounds cool 2018-06-01T17:26:12 < jadew> any links I should be aware of? 2018-06-01T17:26:14 < Laurenceb__> your wife's son? 2018-06-01T17:26:16 < BrainDamage> Rockoon? 2018-06-01T17:26:18 < jadew> heh 2018-06-01T17:26:43 < Laurenceb__> I'd head to #highaltitude 2018-06-01T17:26:48 < Laurenceb__> where are you? 2018-06-01T17:26:50 < jadew> maybe something that can help me figure out what to buy 2018-06-01T17:26:53 < jadew> Romania 2018-06-01T17:26:56 < Laurenceb__> ah 2018-06-01T17:27:05 < Laurenceb__> dunno how to bu He or H2 2018-06-01T17:27:06 < BrainDamage> There's readily made setups you can buy for the transponder 2018-06-01T17:27:18 < Laurenceb__> in UK its annoying as BOC have a monopoly 2018-06-01T17:27:23 < BrainDamage> You could use methane/natural gas 2018-06-01T17:27:27 < Laurenceb__> aiui in europe air products are around and cheaper 2018-06-01T17:27:41 < BrainDamage> Air liquide 2018-06-01T17:27:43 < jadew> I'm sure I can buy some He 2018-06-01T17:27:48 < Laurenceb__> ah yeah 2018-06-01T17:28:19 < Laurenceb__> you'll need to make a filling tube, we use polypropylene drain pipe 2018-06-01T17:28:36 < Laurenceb__> not sure if it is standardised, the UK stuff is a BSI standard design 2018-06-01T17:28:37 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T17:29:38 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:30:04 < jadew> BrainDamage, yeah, I was counting on that, I just want to get it up and running fast 2018-06-01T17:30:36 < Laurenceb__> https://rcexplorer.se/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ballooon1.jpg 2018-06-01T17:30:58 < jadew> that's how big they are? 2018-06-01T17:31:05 < Laurenceb__> looks like they made a similar inflator with swedish pipe 2018-06-01T17:31:40 < jadew> well, I guess I'll have to buy the baloon first and then figure out what sort of pipes and valves I can attach to it? 2018-06-01T17:31:44 < Laurenceb__> the neck diameter is standard for all the weather balloons aiui 2018-06-01T17:31:54 < jadew> do they come with a valve by default? 2018-06-01T17:31:56 < BrainDamage> is that a cow stomach? 2018-06-01T17:32:03 < Laurenceb__> well there are some UKcentric guides to makign an inflator 2018-06-01T17:33:01 < Laurenceb__> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:sealing_the_balloon 2018-06-01T17:33:26 < Laurenceb__> https://ukhas.org.uk/guides:fill_tube 2018-06-01T17:33:28 < jadew> awesome, thanks 2018-06-01T17:34:40 < jadew> do you build your own transponders? 2018-06-01T17:35:22 < jadew> I'd like to buy one readily made, if it's not very expensive. If it is, I'll build my own 2018-06-01T17:35:44 < Laurenceb__> heh 2018-06-01T17:36:03 < Laurenceb__> I'm only interested in ballooning for novel stuff, so built my own stuff 2018-06-01T17:36:16 < Laurenceb__> #highaltitude dont like ppl buying pre made kit at all 2018-06-01T17:36:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:36:28 < Laurenceb__> as n00bs could cause irresponsible behaviour 2018-06-01T17:36:55 < jadew> I'd like to learn about that too - what's considered irresponsible, so I avoid causing trouble 2018-06-01T17:37:05 < Laurenceb__> theres balloon stuff on my github 2018-06-01T17:37:14 < jadew> link? 2018-06-01T17:37:19 < PaulFertser> Does Romania have a decent network of APRS stations? There're really too few in russia. 2018-06-01T17:37:36 < jadew> PaulFertser, I have no idea 2018-06-01T17:38:12 < PaulFertser> You should probably check online before considering the type of transmitter. 2018-06-01T17:38:25 < Laurenceb__> https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32_Launcher 2018-06-01T17:38:27 < jadew> thanks 2018-06-01T17:38:40 < jadew> and thanks 2018-06-01T17:39:28 < jadew> APRS stations are used for relaying the data from the baloon, right? 2018-06-01T17:39:44 < PaulFertser> Yes, to the Internet. 2018-06-01T17:40:19 < PaulFertser> (they're of course used for many kinds of ham radio-related communications, not just data from baloons) 2018-06-01T17:40:30 < BrainDamage> APRS only for the places where it's legal to send up balloons with ham transponders 2018-06-01T17:40:32 < jadew> http://www.aprs.ro/ 2018-06-01T17:40:37 < jadew> click "harta" 2018-06-01T17:40:47 < BrainDamage> not all the countries can 2018-06-01T17:40:47 < jadew> looks like there are a few 2018-06-01T17:41:11 < BrainDamage> also, the APRS network listens to ham bands 2018-06-01T17:41:36 < jadew> I see they're all ham operators 2018-06-01T17:41:39 < jadew> or most of them 2018-06-01T17:41:46 < jadew> do I need to be a ham operator too? 2018-06-01T17:41:56 < BrainDamage> no if you use the ISM band transponders 2018-06-01T17:42:09 < BrainDamage> the receiver network though is smaller than APRS 2018-06-01T17:42:26 < jadew> then I guess I have to get my license 2018-06-01T17:42:46 < Laurenceb__> most uk stuff is license exempt 2018-06-01T17:42:49 < Laurenceb__> much simpler 2018-06-01T17:42:54 < Laurenceb__> 34mhz 2018-06-01T17:42:56 < Laurenceb__> *434 2018-06-01T17:43:19 < jadew> that's the ISM band, no? 2018-06-01T17:43:33 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2018-06-01T17:43:48 < PaulFertser> I think it's also worth adding an independent GPS+GSM tracker to the payload as a backup, right? 2018-06-01T17:44:14 < Laurenceb__> we did that on early flights 2018-06-01T17:44:15 < jadew> PaulFertser, thought about it, but at that altitude... I don't think you'll get a GSM signal 2018-06-01T17:44:25 < Laurenceb__> but generally 434mhz works so well its not needed 2018-06-01T17:44:35 < Laurenceb__> yeah no gsm past ~1km altitude 2018-06-01T17:45:06 < PaulFertser> jadew: but you'll get it when it gets lower on descending. In case you plan to retrieve it of course. 2018-06-01T17:45:08 < BrainDamage> gsm is useless 2-fold 2018-06-01T17:45:18 < BrainDamage> it's useless up there, and it's useless in a ditch 2018-06-01T17:45:37 < Laurenceb__> it generally connects and sends one or 2 sms messages during descent 2018-06-01T17:45:43 < jadew> PaulFertser, that's a good point 2018-06-01T17:46:00 < PaulFertser> I meant it might come useful to increase the chances of retrieval, not to guarantee it 100%. 2018-06-01T17:46:30 < jadew> Laurenceb__, do you retrieve any of your baloons? 2018-06-01T17:46:50 < Laurenceb__> yeah but I lost one int he north sea 2018-06-01T17:46:50 < jadew> also, can you control when it deflates? 2018-06-01T17:47:04 < BrainDamage> What you want is a really nice message on the side to win the goodwill of anyone stumbling on it 2018-06-01T17:47:04 < Laurenceb__> no, but you *could* 2018-06-01T17:47:06 < jadew> Laurenceb__, probably a whale choked on it 2018-06-01T17:47:30 < Haohmaru> a baloon filled with a light gass won't float in vaccume, right? you could only use it to get high into the sky, but not go into space ;P~ 2018-06-01T17:47:44 < BrainDamage> correct 2018-06-01T17:47:55 < Haohmaru> what if you fill the baloon with negative gas? 2018-06-01T17:47:59 < BrainDamage> wat 2018-06-01T17:48:02 < Haohmaru> that's lighter than vaccuum? 2018-06-01T17:48:04 < Haohmaru> >:) 2018-06-01T17:48:10 * Haohmaru runs 2018-06-01T17:48:12 < Laurenceb__> with an emdrive 2018-06-01T17:49:01 < jadew> helium escapes into space by itself tho 2018-06-01T17:49:05 < Laurenceb__> a steam balloon would be fun 2018-06-01T17:49:29 < jadew> it accelerates so much when it goes up that it reaches escape velocity 2018-06-01T17:49:35 < PaulFertser> jadew: so do you plan a baloon that explodes somewhere high enough and then parachutes back to earth and you get some nice gopro footage or do you plan a baloon that goes up and then flies for as long as it can? 2018-06-01T17:49:45 < Laurenceb__> http://www.flyingkettle.com/steam1inf.htm 2018-06-01T17:50:01 < jadew> PaulFertser, one that flies for as long as it can at first 2018-06-01T17:50:07 < jadew> so we can follow it on the map 2018-06-01T17:50:41 < PaulFertser> But in the first case you'll be literally following it on a car for like 100-200km isn't that more fun :) 2018-06-01T17:51:24 < Laurenceb__> https://ukhas.org.uk/_media/projects:mihab:p8150059.jpg?cache= 2018-06-01T17:51:31 < jadew> PaulFertser, it could be, but it could also be disappointing, so I'd rather go with the other option first 2018-06-01T17:51:45 < jadew> would still be exciting 2018-06-01T17:52:11 < Laurenceb__> my first balloon project and first uC project :P 2018-06-01T17:52:28 < Haohmaru> woz there le magic smoke? 2018-06-01T17:52:35 < jadew> is that a phone and a camera in there? 2018-06-01T17:52:41 < Laurenceb__> nope it all worked fine 2018-06-01T17:52:42 < Laurenceb__> yeah 2018-06-01T17:52:42 < PaulFertser> jadew: In this case using APRS without a legal ham callsign is probably not an issue. 2018-06-01T17:52:59 < Haohmaru> flawless victory 2018-06-01T17:53:08 < jadew> PaulFertser, you're probably right 2018-06-01T17:53:17 < Laurenceb__> atmega8 2018-06-01T17:53:26 < Haohmaru> weak 2018-06-01T17:53:34 < jadew> good IC 2018-06-01T17:53:35 < Haohmaru> but still better than a pic 2018-06-01T17:55:58 < PaulFertser> I wonder why it's the UKHAS that collected all the best useful info online. Is it a popular hobby in the UK? 2018-06-01T17:56:13 < Laurenceb__> thanks to me yes :P 2018-06-01T17:56:23 < Laurenceb__> actually jcoxon did most of the early website stuff 2018-06-01T17:56:28 < Laurenceb__> I was second to launch in uk 2018-06-01T17:56:35 < Laurenceb__> with that thing 2018-06-01T17:57:17 < Laurenceb__> started on it when I was 15 :P 2018-06-01T17:57:26 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-42.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T17:58:06 < Laurenceb__> it got on tv and stuff, then ppl found the website 2018-06-01T17:58:40 < jadew> you're famous, eh? 2018-06-01T17:58:47 < jadew> show us the clip 2018-06-01T17:58:55 < Laurenceb__> no I avoided all cameras 2018-06-01T17:59:00 < jadew> lol 2018-06-01T17:59:02 < PaulFertser> jadew: their website has extensive recommendations regarding suitable GNSS receivers, you likely want to check that if you're building your own gear for this project. 2018-06-01T18:00:01 < Haohmaru> hm, most people i know from the UK are like that.. they avoid all cameras 2018-06-01T18:00:38 < Laurenceb__> its to avoid committing thoughtcrimes 2018-06-01T18:00:51 < jadew> PaulFertser, yeah, I'll read everything 2018-06-01T18:00:51 < Haohmaru> thoughtcrimes!? 2018-06-01T18:01:02 < jadew> Laurenceb__, where do you buy your baloons from? 2018-06-01T18:01:21 < Laurenceb__> near Cambridge 2018-06-01T18:01:30 < Laurenceb__> or Churchill college, university of cambridge 2018-06-01T18:01:54 < jadew> oh, a local shop 2018-06-01T18:06:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T18:13:11 < Thorn> https://support.lcsc.com/article/206-free-global-shipping-lcsc-7th-anniversary-celebration 2018-06-01T18:16:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-01T18:43:01 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T18:43:10 < Laurenceb__> muh freedomz, brintbongs are cucked 2018-06-01T18:43:12 < Laurenceb__> https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9LH4N_1527718372 2018-06-01T18:43:18 < Laurenceb__> >literally sharia law 2018-06-01T18:44:44 < Laurenceb__> >its the morality police 2018-06-01T18:45:59 < Laurenceb__> ywlts murican morality police conducting virginity tests on beaches 2018-06-01T18:46:11 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T18:50:40 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T18:54:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T18:57:20 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.196.80] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T18:57:31 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.196.80] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T18:59:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-01T19:00:15 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-01T19:09:44 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-01T19:10:33 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T19:17:32 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.192.72] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T19:20:00 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.196.80] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T19:30:32 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T19:33:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T19:41:17 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.192.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T19:42:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-01T19:46:45 < englishman> i cant believe im buying a fucking pickit 2018-06-01T19:50:05 < Steffanx> Hah. 2018-06-01T19:50:09 < Steffanx> 😍 2018-06-01T19:54:17 < englishman> this is going to end up being a shit project 2018-06-01T19:54:28 < englishman> looks like microshit has disavowed all knowledge of pickit2 2018-06-01T19:57:09 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-01T20:00:36 -!- inca [~inca@12.231.128.57] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T20:00:44 -!- pero_p [uid63038@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzjinosqahvpwwzd] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T20:01:30 < PeterM> are there any stm32 compatible programmers that have a feature similar to the pickit programmer to go? 2018-06-01T20:02:09 < englishman> doesnt look like it, no 2018-06-01T20:04:35 < PeterM> i didnt think so, when i switched to arm, that was something i missed, kinda forgot about it until you jsut mentioned pickit 2018-06-01T20:04:53 < englishman> theres smoogee all over half these boards 2018-06-01T20:04:58 < englishman> these niggers better pay 2018-06-01T20:07:49 < PeterM> the fuck is smoogee 2018-06-01T20:19:41 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T20:30:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a7b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T20:42:28 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY5SReQ2Kqc 2018-06-01T20:42:48 < jadew> the comments are hilareous 2018-06-01T20:43:04 < jadew> "I defintely notice the led lighting systems my neighbor just installed one on the side of his home and my bedroom happens to be right near that definitely made him aware and when he turns that on I put pieces of cardboard that I customized and wrapped with reflective material so that when the light hits that wall it reflects and shines the light right back into his windows" 2018-06-01T20:44:11 < jadew> "Fuck signing a petition, they are already killing us murdering us and most don't even realize it. Personally we need to start destroying these towers and going after anyone that puts them up. I can't believe I am saying this but i think violence of action and force is probably a better route to go." 2018-06-01T20:45:02 -!- nn777 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T20:45:21 < Lux> PeterM: there is a programmer like that for the gd32 mcus 2018-06-01T20:49:11 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-01T20:57:03 < mawk> what's the use of an open-drain output ? 2018-06-01T20:58:49 < invzim> to sink stuff 2018-06-01T20:59:11 < invzim> or to not sink stuff actually 2018-06-01T21:00:02 < aandrew> wtf 2018-06-01T21:00:12 < englishman> thats quite the question 2018-06-01T21:00:18 < englishman> bus sharing is a big one 2018-06-01T21:00:25 < aandrew> stm32 spi master, mode 3 (CPOL=1, CPHA=1), software SS# -- the clock signal is default low until you write to SPIDR, THEN it goes high 2018-06-01T21:00:42 < aandrew> how the hell can you drive SS# low before writing SPIDR so that first transistion isn't seen? 2018-06-01T21:00:57 < englishman> isnt software SS for slave? 2018-06-01T21:01:05 < aandrew> no 2018-06-01T21:01:19 < englishman> hmm 2018-06-01T21:01:19 < aandrew> I can do hardware SS but hten I have no way to keep SS# low between SPI transfers 2018-06-01T21:01:44 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T21:01:52 < englishman> well in mode 1/1 isnt clock edge on falling 2018-06-01T21:02:03 < aandrew> no 2018-06-01T21:02:03 < englishman> so it doesnt really matter if there is an extra rising edge 2018-06-01T21:02:21 < aandrew> mode 3 has clock idle high, sample on rising edge 2018-06-01T21:02:38 < englishman> hmm youre right 2018-06-01T21:02:42 < englishman> i guess spi is just not for me 2018-06-01T21:02:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-01T21:04:01 < englishman> doesnt that still work tho 2018-06-01T21:04:08 < englishman> even if the clock idles low 2018-06-01T21:04:11 < mawk> invzim: the normal mode can also sink stuff 2018-06-01T21:07:14 < aandrew> I got it, I just do a dummy write with SS# not asserted, the the spi peripheral keeps clock high. wtf 2018-06-01T21:07:35 < aandrew> wait, maybe not 2018-06-01T21:11:38 < aandrew> nope 2018-06-01T21:11:45 < aandrew> forgot to set the pin mode back to OUTPUT_PP instead of AF_PP 2018-06-01T21:11:46 -!- inca [~inca@12.231.128.57] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 2018-06-01T21:13:34 < aandrew> The idle state of SCK must correspond to the polarity selected in the SPI_CFG2 register (by 2018-06-01T21:13:37 < aandrew> pulling up SCK if CPOL=1 or pulling down SCK if CPOL=0). 2018-06-01T21:13:56 < aandrew> setting a pullup doesn't seem to do it, maybe I have to solder one 2018-06-01T21:13:58 < invzim> mawk: bus pulled up to 5V externally, output 1=high impedance (do nothing), output 0=sink signal 2018-06-01T21:14:14 < invzim> for example 2018-06-01T21:15:10 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:300f:fb09:3a18:5fd6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T21:15:49 < invzim> I think that's the idea 2018-06-01T21:20:17 -!- _enhering_ [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T21:24:00 < jpa-> aandrew: spi master should keep SCK in idle state whenever the SPI peripheral is enabled 2018-06-01T21:24:34 < mawk> yes invzim 2018-06-01T21:24:51 < mawk> but that's kinda the same as normal output mode 2018-06-01T21:24:57 < mawk> it can sink more output ? 2018-06-01T21:28:05 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:300f:fb09:3a18:5fd6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-01T21:28:17 < aandrew> jpa-: I agree, but the LA traces show that it does not 2018-06-01T21:28:30 < aandrew> SCK is in the correct state whenever SPIDR is not empty 2018-06-01T21:28:45 < aandrew> if hardware SS is used, it does the right thing but the moment SS# goes high, SCK drops 2018-06-01T21:29:03 < aandrew> if I set the pin to use a pullup, it still drops, it looks like it's being driven low 2018-06-01T21:31:39 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-01T21:33:53 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T21:35:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T21:35:45 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T21:36:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T21:44:52 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800fe36007dfc1ca09ce02dc7.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T21:45:44 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@cca100-pool11.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2018-06-01T21:55:43 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@124-168-239-21.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:06:38 < Thorn> IIRC I had to use pulldowns on SCK to keep LA happy 2018-06-01T22:08:42 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:08:49 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-a7b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:08:53 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:09:00 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:09:32 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@124-168-239-21.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:10:23 -!- pero_p [uid63038@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dzjinosqahvpwwzd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-01T22:10:42 -!- nn777 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T22:10:42 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T22:10:43 -!- c4017w [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T22:10:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a7b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T22:10:43 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@124-168-239-21.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-01T22:10:44 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T22:11:01 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2018-06-01T22:11:51 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:13:55 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:27:05 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:30:29 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@188.166.37.62] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:36:25 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-01T22:36:50 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:41:08 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800fe36007dfc1ca09ce02dc7.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:41:12 < Drzacek> Hello 2018-06-01T22:41:24 < Drzacek> How do I flash stm32 chips from system workbench? 2018-06-01T22:41:58 < Steffanx> By giving up on system workbench and install the free TrueStudio instead? :P 2018-06-01T22:42:48 < Drzacek> wtf when I wanted to use arduino for stm32 fucking everyone told me the RightWay™ is to use cubemx + system workbench 2018-06-01T22:43:16 < Steffanx> Anyway, usually you can go to the binary in the project explorer, right click and choose something like "Debug as". 2018-06-01T22:43:29 < Drzacek> I'm sure it is easy, but can't find any compant info on google, and trying dozens of 30minute long tutorials is a no go given my frustration levels 2018-06-01T22:43:43 < Steffanx> Drzacek, AC6 is weird. While TrueStudio is less weird. 2018-06-01T22:43:52 < Steffanx> Stuff is more integrated and is still eclipse 2018-06-01T22:44:13 < Steffanx> but the ##stm32 opinion is: Go Keil, Go keil. 2018-06-01T22:45:10 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@85-23-75-254.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T22:45:22 < Steffanx> your biggest mistake was "I wanted to use arduino for stm32" though :P 2018-06-01T22:47:12 < Drzacek> in a perfect world I would be using same IDE and compiler for everything 2018-06-01T22:47:36 < Drzacek> and target would be just one option in nice & clean GUI 2018-06-01T22:47:57 < Drzacek> tbh I don't even like arduino IDE for arduino itself 2018-06-01T22:48:12 < Steffanx> So keil it is then. One compiler, one IDE, many targets. 2018-06-01T22:48:14 < Drzacek> oh again this sth, get some errors 2018-06-01T22:50:29 < Steffanx> I think the general opinion is to not use cubemx Drzacek 2018-06-01T22:50:48 < Steffanx> You should use it for anything but code generation. 2018-06-01T22:50:52 < Drzacek> what else then? 2018-06-01T22:52:12 < Steffanx> Dont generate the code but do it yourself. 2018-06-01T22:52:24 < Drzacek> but thats a huge amount of code 2018-06-01T22:53:00 < Steffanx> hah, sure. 2018-06-01T22:53:11 < Steffanx> You can still use the HAL ofcourse 2018-06-01T22:53:36 < Steffanx> i'd still install TrueStudio. It comes with some smallish wizards too, to get your first hello world stuff up and running 2018-06-01T22:54:16 < Drzacek> great, wish I knew before I lost few hours in cubemx 2018-06-01T22:54:16 < upgrdman> decided to clean up an old laptop at work so it can be used for random tasks. formatted and reinstalled win7. ran windows update around 8 hours ago and it's still going. 2018-06-01T22:54:29 < Steffanx> Its just there are too many options and 1000-and-1 ways to get started. 2018-06-01T22:54:56 < Steffanx> hah, upgrdman. Windows 7 -_- 2018-06-01T22:54:57 < upgrdman> at least this old laptop is decent-ish. 500gb, 4gb, i5. 2018-06-01T22:55:07 < upgrdman> Steffanx, ya well win10 would be a pain on this :) 2018-06-01T22:55:14 < Drzacek> tried debian? 2018-06-01T22:55:20 < upgrdman> its for work 2018-06-01T22:55:24 < upgrdman> so no linux 2018-06-01T22:55:32 < Steffanx> Why? The requirements for win 10 are higher? 2018-06-01T22:55:37 < Steffanx> i cant imagine that 2018-06-01T22:55:57 < upgrdman> Steffanx, because win10 feels slower than win7 in a vm 2018-06-01T22:56:03 < upgrdman> so prolly slower on bare metal too 2018-06-01T22:56:14 < Steffanx> Not my experience. 2018-06-01T22:56:19 < Drzacek> upgrdman, actually they said win10 will run faster than win7 2018-06-01T22:56:27 < upgrdman> ok 2018-06-01T22:56:33 < Drzacek> can't really tell cause I switch hardware when I upgraded to win10 2018-06-01T22:56:38 < upgrdman> is msft still giving out free upgrd's to win10? 2018-06-01T22:56:44 < Drzacek> nope :( 2018-06-01T22:56:50 < upgrdman> than fuck it. 2018-06-01T22:56:53 < upgrdman> then* 2018-06-01T22:56:58 < Steffanx> Yes. 2018-06-01T22:57:00 < Hamilton> Can I use blocking UART for general random things? Like, between blocking, interrupt + ring buffer and DMA based solutions, which one is "the shit" for serial data handling? 2018-06-01T22:57:01 < Drzacek> tried few months ago, it was dead 2018-06-01T22:57:06 < Steffanx> i believe there are still ways to do it. 2018-06-01T22:57:15 < upgrdman> i have legit licenses for xp, 7, and 8. not 10. 2018-06-01T22:57:29 < Steffanx> get a $4-5 license on ebay 2018-06-01T22:57:33 < upgrdman> and this is for work, so no shady shit. 2018-06-01T22:57:35 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-01T22:57:39 < Drzacek> fun fact - it let you upgrade cracked win7 into fully legal windows 10 2018-06-01T22:57:43 < Steffanx> those licenses seem legit. 2018-06-01T22:57:56 < Drzacek> ah good ol days 2018-06-01T22:58:15 < Steffanx> Those sellers sold like quite a few of those licenses, cannot image ebay lets that happen when it's not legit. 2018-06-01T22:58:19 < upgrdman> we still have 2 pc's running win95. 2018-06-01T22:58:30 < Steffanx> does that make you feel old? 2018-06-01T22:58:32 < upgrdman> and no plans to replace them evr 2018-06-01T22:59:17 < Drzacek> upgrdman, but why? surely you could upgrade to win98se, as we did 2018-06-01T22:59:20 < Thorn> fun fact: LPC824M201JHI33E is now cheaper than STM8S003F3P6 @ lcsc 2018-06-01T22:59:35 < Drzacek> still got few win98 pcs at work, they are never going away 2018-06-01T22:59:42 < upgrdman> Drzacek, they are production test pc's. going through validation again would be a huge hassle. 2018-06-01T23:00:13 < upgrdman> and ANY hardware or software charge would require revalidation 2018-06-01T23:00:39 < upgrdman> at least those pc's are not on the net. i dont think they even have an rj45. 2018-06-01T23:00:55 < Drzacek> Thorn, fun question - are the stm8 chips usable at all? I seem to have bough a handful of them some time ago, never found anything on google on how to start, so they collect dust 2018-06-01T23:01:09 < Drzacek> ok 2018-06-01T23:01:20 < Thorn> I've done several projects with them 2018-06-01T23:01:37 < Thorn> pwm + rs-485, ws2812 + rs-485, etc. 2018-06-01T23:01:41 < Drzacek> ok, I installed trustdio 2018-06-01T23:03:08 < Drzacek> so what do I do now? I assume my hard work in putting a hw project in cubemx in worthless now, and I have to start from scratch? 2018-06-01T23:03:37 < upgrdman> Drzacek, whatre you trying to do now? just get a helloworld going with truestudio and pubemx? 2018-06-01T23:04:05 < Drzacek> well I wanted to do some small project, but I guess it isn't as easy as I initially wanted 2018-06-01T23:04:29 < upgrdman> i have not tried it, but stm surprisingly has a nice looking video on that 2018-06-01T23:04:30 < upgrdman> one sec 2018-06-01T23:04:42 < upgrdman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RqUkFIeN6w&list=PLnMKNibPkDnF97QnUOFGirl1q0G_4VdDc 2018-06-01T23:05:23 < Drzacek> I wanted to build a iot weatherstation on bluepill, but I want to do it in steps, like first just serial cdc and dht22 going, then add display and real time clock, then finally esp8266 2018-06-01T23:07:16 < Drzacek> oh, it can export to ts too. nice 2018-06-01T23:07:22 < englishman> HA 2018-06-01T23:07:23 < Steffanx> Drzacek: i must say i dont have hands on experience with cubemx and its code generation. Just because.. code generation 2018-06-01T23:07:26 < englishman> programmed this FUCKING pic 2018-06-01T23:07:28 < englishman> and it FUCKING WORKS 2018-06-01T23:07:36 < upgrdman> *happy dance* 2018-06-01T23:07:42 < Steffanx> even RB0 englishman? 2018-06-01T23:07:57 < englishman> RB0 and RB1 both, yes. 2018-06-01T23:08:01 < Drzacek> it compiles... 2018-06-01T23:08:10 < englishman> fucking french niggers 2018-06-01T23:08:11 < englishman> better PAY 2018-06-01T23:08:35 < Steffanx> French as in from France or french as in french canucks? 2018-06-01T23:08:48 < Steffanx> huge difference. 2018-06-01T23:08:58 < Drzacek> aaaaand I end up with same problem as with syswb - almost same interface, no configured targets 2018-06-01T23:10:12 < englishman> my first pic program is literally blinky 2018-06-01T23:10:21 < Steffanx> i dont know a single person in here that uses AC6, Drzacek :P 2018-06-01T23:10:37 < Drzacek> Steffanx, I'm using truestudio now 2018-06-01T23:10:48 < upgrdman> ya i tried ac6 a couple years ago, and it was super gay, and i immediately uninstalled it 2018-06-01T23:10:49 < Drzacek> compiled, want to FLASH (I'm guessing I need to debug) 2018-06-01T23:10:57 < Steffanx> yes 2018-06-01T23:11:00 < Steffanx> nah 2018-06-01T23:11:02 < upgrdman> and their website was annoying as fuck to use 2018-06-01T23:11:06 < Drzacek> IT FCUKING LOOKS THE SAME AS TRUESTUDIO! 2018-06-01T23:11:07 < Steffanx> you dont HAVE to, but it's easy/fast 2018-06-01T23:11:14 < Drzacek> how could it be more gay than this? 2018-06-01T23:11:20 < Hamilton> :) 2018-06-01T23:11:32 < upgrdman> Drzacek, a LOT of ide's are based around eclipse. but they are not all the same. 2018-06-01T23:11:44 < upgrdman> different features, bugs, layouts etc 2018-06-01T23:11:54 < Drzacek> well I dislike all eclipse and eclipse-ish ides too 2018-06-01T23:12:03 < Steffanx> Yes, the website is excellent. Excellent example of how to get people to not download the tool. 2018-06-01T23:12:04 < Drzacek> most cancerous was simplicity studio 2018-06-01T23:12:35 < Steffanx> Simplicity studio isnt that bad. After you finally figured out where to find what. 2018-06-01T23:12:37 < upgrdman> Drzacek, http://www.eclipse.org/community/eclipse_newsletter/2017/october/article2.php 2018-06-01T23:12:46 < upgrdman> literally dozens of IDEs based on eclipse ^ 2018-06-01T23:13:28 < Steffanx> lol, i spotted some dutch IDE there. And it has the best name "Sloeber" (for tarduino) 2018-06-01T23:13:42 < Drzacek> Steffanx, they maintain two versions, v3 and v4, and projects created in one of them don't work in other one, also no way to migrate or convert.... 2018-06-01T23:13:55 < Steffanx> oh, i only used v4 2018-06-01T23:13:57 < Drzacek> even send them an email, explaining them why their software sucks 2018-06-01T23:14:15 < upgrdman> email. how quaint. you mean a facebook message, right? 2018-06-01T23:14:19 < upgrdman> /s 2018-06-01T23:14:48 < Steffanx> Best thing about the silabs chips is that the default vid/pid of their usb bootloader is identify by windows as something completely different. 2018-06-01T23:14:49 < Drzacek> well there was a project at work that was originally done with v3 and I inherited it somehow. Lost few days trying to get it work after I found out I need to use v3 :/ 2018-06-01T23:15:28 < Steffanx> 2nd best thing is that the pre-flashed their chips with a usb bootloader that only works with an external xtal ( expecially nice as they advertise them as xtal less usb stuff ) 2018-06-01T23:15:33 < Steffanx> *they 2018-06-01T23:15:36 < Drzacek> wait, it did something - I guess it just upgraded my stlink and then flashed the blue pill 2018-06-01T23:15:53 < Steffanx> \o/ 2018-06-01T23:16:11 < Drzacek> Steffanx, I had to buy "USB DEBUGR1" or something like that, and couldn't get it to debug :/ only programm the chips 2018-06-01T23:16:56 < Steffanx> hah. At least I used a real mcu ( their 32-bit cortex-m stuff). 2018-06-01T23:16:58 < Drzacek> but this could have been some hw design flaw on our side, dunno, I'm just writing the code 2018-06-01T23:17:24 < Drzacek> okay, thanks for help, I can finish my day now :) 2018-06-01T23:17:36 < Drzacek> I guess I'll be back tomorrow, to continue my work 2018-06-01T23:17:37 < Drzacek> bye 2018-06-01T23:17:40 < Steffanx> enjoy 2018-06-01T23:17:45 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800fe36007dfc1ca09ce02dc7.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-01T23:18:49 < upgrdman> hmmm i should really get around to making an esp8266 video. i have not posted a new video in months and my channel keeps growing. 2018-06-01T23:19:44 < upgrdman> anyone know a decent esp8266 arduino lib? they all look like shit and the 2 i tried are buggy as fuck, at least on my uno clone 2018-06-01T23:20:07 < upgrdman> my diy serial.write() serial.read() fucky lib is more reliable 2018-06-01T23:22:41 < englishman> I am 100% sure that the processors are defective. 2018-06-01T23:22:41 < englishman> I am 100% sure that the processors are defective. 2018-06-01T23:22:42 < englishman> I am 100% sure that the processors are defective. 2018-06-01T23:22:43 < englishman> fucking 2018-06-01T23:22:45 < englishman> fuck man 2018-06-01T23:22:50 < englishman> who does this guy think he is 2018-06-01T23:24:08 < Steffanx> Wrong channel to ask, upgrdman ;) 2018-06-01T23:24:41 < englishman> i odered some nrf52840 2018-06-01T23:25:41 < Thorn> modules or bare chips? 2018-06-01T23:25:46 < Steffanx> Makes me wonder. How the fuck do they even get to you to assembly some pcbs when they are are clearly ( or seem to be ) incompetent, englishman? 2018-06-01T23:25:53 < englishman> for real 2018-06-01T23:25:56 < englishman> they are blacklisted now 2018-06-01T23:25:59 < englishman> once they pay 2018-06-01T23:26:07 < englishman> without a massive apology and/or more money 2018-06-01T23:26:17 < englishman> also makes me want to write out a real contract for work. 2018-06-01T23:26:56 < upgrdman> englishman, why would they apologize? they pay for a service, you do it, and that's it, no? if they designed something broken, that's not your fault and they still should pay. 2018-06-01T23:27:05 < englishman> because they accuse me of selling defective chips 2018-06-01T23:27:11 < upgrdman> oh 2018-06-01T23:27:16 < englishman> do you know how shitty that makes me feel 2018-06-01T23:27:20 < englishman> to be accused of that 2018-06-01T23:27:25 < englishman> i must be compensated 2018-06-01T23:27:29 < englishman> either in money or fellatio 2018-06-01T23:27:32 < Hamilton> upgrdman, Name of the channel? 2018-06-01T23:27:36 < upgrdman> ya i see the firey passion now 2018-06-01T23:27:45 < upgrdman> Hamilton: 2018-06-01T23:27:47 * upgrdman <- 2018-06-01T23:28:05 < englishman> next email from them will be in huge bold text offering my software development services for $10k/hour 2018-06-01T23:28:22 < sync> :DD 2018-06-01T23:28:24 < sync> typical 2018-06-01T23:28:41 < upgrdman> englishman, and then outsource the work to a pakilancer 2018-06-01T23:28:53 < englishman> or worse, california 2018-06-01T23:28:54 < BrainDamage> wait, you did pretty much a favour to some asshole on irc and now they act like they have broom handle is stuck up their ass? 2018-06-01T23:29:01 < englishman> no, irl company 2018-06-01T23:29:07 < Hamilton> upgrdman, ~9k subs...Congrat man 2018-06-01T23:29:12 < upgrdman> thx 2018-06-01T23:29:25 < BrainDamage> do you have documentation of the communication? 2018-06-01T23:29:32 < BrainDamage> if yes, call a fucking lawyer 2018-06-01T23:29:32 < englishman> yes 2018-06-01T23:29:43 < englishman> no i will give them until monday to pay 2018-06-01T23:29:51 < englishman> its not a lot of money 2018-06-01T23:31:56 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2018-06-01T23:32:21 < upgrdman> Installing Update 174 of 195... IE11 for Win7 for x64 2018-06-01T23:32:32 < upgrdman> wtf, ie is still supported?? 2018-06-01T23:32:48 < upgrdman> oh ya, no Edge for win7 iirc 2018-06-01T23:32:52 < sync> ofc 2018-06-01T23:32:59 < BrainDamage> microsoft still has 16 bit code paths in windows 2018-06-01T23:33:01 < upgrdman> oh well, too late, chrome was the first thing i installed 2018-06-01T23:34:42 < upgrdman> side note: to remove those ugly badges on laptops, a heat gun on low softens the adhesive a little so you can pick them off with your fingernail. alcohol cleans off any residue. so much nicer with they raging homo fujitsu/intel/msft stickers all over the handrest area 2018-06-01T23:34:55 < sync> BrainDamage: well you can still run 16 bit apps when you use a 32bit version 2018-06-01T23:34:58 < upgrdman> s/with they/without the 2018-06-01T23:35:47 < BrainDamage> i just take the backing for self adhesive labels, the clay surface was specifically designed to not stick to label glue 2018-06-01T23:36:00 < BrainDamage> you can often insert in the gap of labels and use it as shim 2018-06-01T23:36:44 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-01T23:36:55 < upgrdman> hmm k 2018-06-01T23:41:53 < upgrdman> if i need a comparator that can compare inputs that are 0-12V, but output 0-3.3V, is the only decent option a comparator with open-drain output? 2018-06-01T23:42:25 < Steffanx> Egde is performance wise not that bad, upgrdman 2018-06-01T23:42:33 < upgrdman> Steffanx, ya i know 2018-06-01T23:42:42 < upgrdman> but does edge have an adblock plugin? 2018-06-01T23:43:14 < upgrdman> until i found sumatrapdf, i used edge as a pdf viewer 2018-06-01T23:43:45 < BrainDamage> you can always add a voltage divider at the output 2018-06-01T23:43:52 < Steffanx> I think edge has it. 2018-06-01T23:44:11 < Hamilton> Is Arm Semihosting used that often in development? The thing that it does not work if taget is not attached to debugger is so bad 2018-06-01T23:44:30 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, sure but thats more components :) 2018-06-01T23:44:47 < BrainDamage> look at you, wanting the cake and eat it too 2018-06-01T23:44:52 < upgrdman> inorite 2018-06-01T23:45:03 < Steffanx> You can check if a debugger is attached, Hamilton. If not attached, skip the semihosting stuff. 2018-06-01T23:45:43 < BrainDamage> also to be pedant the more component is literally 1 more resistor 2018-06-01T23:45:53 < Hamilton> Steffanx, Oh, so I can put sth in code that prevents halt of MCU because debugger is not attached? 2018-06-01T23:45:55 < BrainDamage> however the majority of decent comparators are open drain 2018-06-01T23:46:00 < Steffanx> Yes, Hamilton 2018-06-01T23:46:02 < BrainDamage> so ¯\_( ͡°⌣ ͡°)_/¯ 2018-06-01T23:46:05 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, ya but still :) 2018-06-01T23:46:16 < upgrdman> k 2018-06-01T23:47:05 < Steffanx> Its in your well-known scb, Hamilton 2018-06-01T23:47:25 < Hamilton> Steffanx, SystemControlBlock? 2018-06-01T23:47:42 < upgrdman> and is my understand of op amp vs. comparator correct: the input stages are similar, its just that comparator output stages are optimized for jumping to either rail, while op amp output stages are optmized for analog 2018-06-01T23:48:07 < BrainDamage> 'yes' 2018-06-01T23:48:14 < BrainDamage> a comparator lacks the compensation cap 2018-06-01T23:48:27 < BrainDamage> which means it's not stable in closed loop at unitary gain 2018-06-01T23:48:33 < BrainDamage> but it's fastah 2018-06-01T23:48:34 < Steffanx> Stm32s m0 mcus dont seem to support it though Hamilton 2018-06-01T23:48:40 < Steffanx> And yes. 2018-06-01T23:48:46 < upgrdman> k 2018-06-01T23:49:13 < BrainDamage> to make opamps stable in closed loop you make a lowpass at a ridicolously low freq 2018-06-01T23:49:19 < BrainDamage> douzens of Hz 2018-06-01T23:49:26 < karlp> me thinks semihosting is good when uoure planning on using stdio, but habent got the drivers yet 2018-06-01T23:49:41 < Hamilton> Steffanx, I'm on M3...anyway, you seem to remember member's questions? :) 2018-06-01T23:49:47 < BrainDamage> the pole then gets shifted along the GBWP by the negative feedback 2018-06-01T23:49:54 < karlp> if youre not going to use stdio stuff normally, semihisting seeems kinda oointless 2018-06-01T23:50:50 < Hamilton> karlp, If you want to set up a shitty debugger using printf, you use semihosting or uart? 2018-06-01T23:50:53 < Steffanx> I once used it to do some performance testing on read data, which the mcu just read from a file. 2018-06-01T23:51:04 < Steffanx> On real data* 2018-06-01T23:51:10 < Steffanx> I like that. 2018-06-01T23:51:15 < Steffanx> Liked. 2018-06-01T23:51:15 < Hamilton> Steffanx, Yeah the File* is nice 2018-06-01T23:55:44 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-01T23:56:49 < kakimir> coding party 2018-06-01T23:56:50 < karlp> Hamilton: i use ITM 2018-06-01T23:59:07 < kakimir> samsuck is still a power hog 2018-06-01T23:59:26 < kakimir> like navigation drains battery a percent / minute 2018-06-01T23:59:40 < kakimir> phone becomes hot 2018-06-01T23:59:55 < kakimir> why --- Day changed Sat Jun 02 2018 2018-06-02T00:00:07 < kakimir> my shittiphone didn't warm up like that 2018-06-02T00:00:19 < kakimir> or drain battery as fast 2018-06-02T00:00:30 < upgrdman> is there still no non-nda cortexAsomething that'll output 4k60? 2018-06-02T00:01:52 < upgrdman> and god damn it, im stilling waiting for 4k120/4k144 monitors 2018-06-02T00:02:50 < kakimir> why 2018-06-02T00:02:58 < upgrdman> 4k60 isnt smooth enough 2018-06-02T00:03:05 < upgrdman> for interactive shits 2018-06-02T00:03:46 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzQ5KCOp7qQ there is 1992 smooth for you 2018-06-02T00:03:51 < kakimir> demoscene times 2018-06-02T00:04:38 < upgrdman> i want to scroll my PDFs at 144hz :) 2018-06-02T00:04:51 < upgrdman> if the gaypad pro can do it, wtf can't a pc 2018-06-02T00:06:27 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-02T00:06:32 < kakimir> can it? 2018-06-02T00:06:42 < upgrdman> iirc ipad pro is 120 or 144hz 2018-06-02T00:06:59 < kakimir> 4k? 2018-06-02T00:07:08 < upgrdman> 3.5k iirc 2018-06-02T00:08:42 < kakimir> what can you do with that framerate? 2018-06-02T00:08:50 < upgrdman> scroll pdfs super smoothly 2018-06-02T00:08:51 < kakimir> is UI actually updating at that speed? 2018-06-02T00:08:53 < upgrdman> like irl :) 2018-06-02T00:08:56 < upgrdman> ya 2018-06-02T00:09:16 < kakimir> is it defaulted to like 100hz and you turn on some performance mode 2018-06-02T00:09:26 < kakimir> and you then get 144hz 2018-06-02T00:09:27 < upgrdman> i dunno. i just fingered one in a store 2018-06-02T00:09:33 < upgrdman> and it was orgasmic 2018-06-02T00:10:09 < upgrdman> oh theres an idea. i could try adding motion blur to my TelemetryViewer. like render at 120hz but output at 60hz. 2018-06-02T00:10:19 < upgrdman> that might look kinda neat actually. 2018-06-02T00:10:25 < upgrdman> or render at 240 and output 60 2018-06-02T00:10:46 < upgrdman> for silkly smooth scrolling charts 2018-06-02T00:10:51 < upgrdman> silky* 2018-06-02T00:11:05 < upgrdman> and burning hot laptops, but who cares 2018-06-02T00:17:22 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-02T00:18:12 < Thorn> how do I do isolated rs-485 cheap? 3 optocouplers on uart signals (rx, tx, direction) and a normal rs-485 driver in the isolated domain? 2018-06-02T00:18:56 < upgrdman> how much isolation? 2018-06-02T00:18:59 < zyp> isolated phys too expensive? 2018-06-02T00:19:03 < upgrdman> iirc theres transceivers with integrated isolation 2018-06-02T00:19:14 < zyp> there are 2018-06-02T00:19:21 < zyp> but they need isolated power also 2018-06-02T00:20:35 < Thorn> yeah I just realized I also need to power the isolated domain :/ 2018-06-02T00:21:05 < zyp> I don't think you're getting away from that whatever you do 2018-06-02T00:21:11 < Thorn> otoh a high Vin ldo should be enough 2018-06-02T00:21:32 < upgrdman> zyp, linear has some with internal power supply 2018-06-02T00:21:44 < zyp> doesn't sound cheap 2018-06-02T00:21:49 < upgrdman> theyre big chips, prolly SoM or something 2018-06-02T00:21:56 < upgrdman> iirc $14 for qty1 2018-06-02T00:21:59 < zyp> likely 2018-06-02T00:22:00 < zyp> ha 2018-06-02T00:22:14 < Thorn> lol my whole device must be like half that 2018-06-02T00:22:26 < upgrdman> but theyre 4kv of isolation 2018-06-02T00:22:31 < upgrdman> great for medical apps :) 2018-06-02T00:22:51 < zyp> I looked at some TI isolated phys for my adapter cable thing 2018-06-02T00:23:09 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/BlWxx.png <- this thing 2018-06-02T00:23:52 < zyp> I need CAN, but they have both CAN and RS485 in similar footprints, so I were planning to have it possible to populate either 2018-06-02T00:24:25 < upgrdman> ya i did some cheap rs485 transceiver + murata isolated converter for a work project 2018-06-02T00:24:37 < upgrdman> was cheapest way i found to get 4kV of isolation 2018-06-02T00:25:03 < upgrdman> might have been 3kV, but ya whatever. lots of V 2018-06-02T00:25:13 < zyp> I don't really need much isolation for my project, I just wanna avoid ground loops 2018-06-02T00:25:21 < upgrdman> ya 2018-06-02T00:32:16 < Thorn> how do you normally power the isolated driver: from the main device power via an isolated converter or from a separate power line which you put into the same cable with the rs-485 data bus? 2018-06-02T00:32:45 < zyp> I'd say it depends on the application 2018-06-02T00:32:46 < Thorn> would it be weird to require separate power like that? 2018-06-02T00:33:00 < zyp> my converter cable would do that 2018-06-02T00:35:12 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@188.166.37.62] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-02T00:35:15 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a7b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-02T00:35:40 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@188.166.37.62] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T00:36:06 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@188.166.37.62] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-02T00:36:06 < zyp> the thing I'm thinking of using it for has a connector with power and some IO, so it can power its side of an isolator integrated in the cable, and the USB port on the other side would power that side 2018-06-02T00:36:39 < Thorn> I believe I only need to isolate rs-485 in the master because it may be connected to a PC via USB, and the rest of the bus will be powered by 24V provided by the bus 2018-06-02T00:37:28 < zyp> in that case, isn't it the usb you want to isolate? 2018-06-02T00:37:28 < Thorn> so it would make sense to route that power to the master device to power its isolated driver 2018-06-02T00:37:47 < Thorn> usb is more difficult to isolate, is it not? 2018-06-02T00:38:14 < zyp> you get single chip solutions for usb fs 2018-06-02T00:38:41 < zyp> so in terms of schematic/board complexity, no difference 2018-06-02T00:38:56 < zyp> in terms of price, you'd have to look it up 2018-06-02T00:40:13 < zyp> the advantage with putting the isolator on the usb is that then you don't have to worry about isolating power 2018-06-02T00:40:44 < zyp> the host will provide vbus on the bus side, and you presumably already have another supply for the mcu 2018-06-02T00:46:48 < mawk> build on mbed is timing out 2018-06-02T00:46:49 < mawk> great 2018-06-02T00:54:10 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T00:59:41 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-42.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-02T01:03:27 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T01:12:29 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T01:13:28 < englishman> build on MPLAB Xpress works fine! 2018-06-02T01:13:29 < englishman> lol 2018-06-02T01:14:57 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T01:15:22 < Laurenceb_> whyyy 2018-06-02T01:15:34 < Laurenceb_> muh G.U.I. 2018-06-02T01:15:43 < Laurenceb_> its still not ready 2018-06-02T01:15:49 < Laurenceb_> should have used visual basic 2018-06-02T01:17:30 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/foFFm6e 2018-06-02T01:17:33 < Laurenceb_> tfw 2018-06-02T01:19:14 < englishman> i have a battery powered device that i want to hardwire 2018-06-02T01:19:22 < englishman> whats the best way to connect it 2018-06-02T01:19:26 < englishman> jam in a 'fake' battery pack? 2018-06-02T01:19:34 < Laurenceb_> probably 2018-06-02T01:19:35 < englishman> all the dummy batts ive seen on ebay are shorts 2018-06-02T01:19:38 < englishman> not opens 2018-06-02T01:20:21 < englishman> https://www.ebay.com/itm/scam/262490971641 2018-06-02T01:20:24 < englishman> lol $60 2018-06-02T01:20:29 < englishman> take a hike 2018-06-02T01:20:58 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/RX5cS2R 2018-06-02T01:23:01 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/hcjppwl 2018-06-02T01:23:06 < Laurenceb_> meanwhile in bongland 2018-06-02T01:23:35 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T01:25:38 < invzim> that feeling when you need to add an ic to a board that is tightly routed.. 2018-06-02T01:26:39 < Laurenceb_> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wakanda-reparations-or-else-tickets-46254059136 2018-06-02T01:28:29 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/aKaXRPX 2018-06-02T01:30:11 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/oOx2GuU 2018-06-02T01:30:15 < Laurenceb_> ok enough shitposting sorry 2018-06-02T01:31:20 < englishman> https://youtu.be/RxM55DNS9CE?t=3m37s 2018-06-02T01:36:34 < stvn> Laurenceb_: Usually, incels can be found sharing violent rape fantasies, whining about their own appearances or bitching about their sisters on websites specifically catering to them such as incels.me. 2018-06-02T01:36:49 < stvn> did you make this https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/dating/now-theres-a-dating-website-for-misogynists/news-story/59247792642ac8905fcd9f4785b3cdf3 2018-06-02T01:36:56 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-02T01:40:51 < stvn> i can only laugh 2018-06-02T01:43:47 < Laurenceb_> >DateAnIncel.com 2018-06-02T01:45:05 < stvn> fucking news: I changed the battery on my dyson (3 years old) and saved $1000 by not buying a new vac 2018-06-02T01:45:10 < stvn> \o/ 2018-06-02T01:45:54 < jadew> Laurenceb_, bought a balloon 2018-06-02T01:46:02 < Laurenceb_> cool 2018-06-02T01:46:04 < Laurenceb_> The acts of these young men and others are regularly celebrated in chatrooms, where Rodger is worshipped as the “Supreme Gentleman” 2018-06-02T01:46:07 < Laurenceb_> ^what is irony 2018-06-02T01:46:24 < Laurenceb_> jadew: gas might be harder to source 2018-06-02T01:46:57 < jadew> Laurenceb_, found some businesses around me that do refills and also have tanks for sale, they don't seem to be cheap tho 2018-06-02T01:47:11 < jadew> I'll have to calculate how much He gets into the balloon 2018-06-02T01:47:12 < Laurenceb_> yeah its expensive 2018-06-02T01:47:20 < Laurenceb_> a few cubic meters usually 2018-06-02T01:48:04 < jadew> didn't find the datasheet yet 2018-06-02T01:48:52 < Laurenceb_> use ukhas balloon calculator 2018-06-02T01:49:10 < Laurenceb_> http://habhub.org/calc/ 2018-06-02T01:49:16 < jadew> thanks 2018-06-02T01:50:01 < jadew> when stored in those tanks, is the helium in liquid form? 2018-06-02T01:50:32 < englishman> why didn't you save $1000 by not buying a Dyson 2018-06-02T01:51:16 < Laurenceb_> >being this n00b 2018-06-02T01:51:24 < Laurenceb_> of course its in gas form 2018-06-02T01:51:30 < stvn> MUH HACKS 2018-06-02T01:51:46 < Laurenceb_> maybe you could store liquid helium in an emdrive 2018-06-02T01:52:19 < stvn> aborigines have mad HACKS they drink denatured alcohol to drink 4 cheep! 2018-06-02T01:53:08 < jadew> Laurenceb_, hmm... so when you're buying one of those tanks, how do you know how much He is in there? 2018-06-02T01:53:27 < jadew> it could be at any pressure... 2018-06-02T01:53:27 < mawk> just plain unmodified code of a plain unmodified STM32CubeMX project doesn't compile, it talks about multiple symbols definitions; I had to add the -Wl,--allow-multiple-definition flag to LDFLAGS; I'm using the gcc toolchain given on ARM's website 2018-06-02T01:53:31 < Laurenceb_> stvn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yeBmSFkC4 2018-06-02T01:53:44 < mawk> is it that this cube MX thing is so bad that it can't generate code that compiles ? or I am using something wrong 2018-06-02T01:54:23 < Laurenceb_> jadew: its a standard - the type of tank is standardised 2018-06-02T01:54:37 < Laurenceb_> usually with a letter of the alphabet 2018-06-02T01:54:48 < Laurenceb_> the tricky thing is what regulator is comes with 2018-06-02T01:54:51 -!- CygniX [~CygniX@opensuse/member/CygniX] has left ##stm32 ["Konversation terminated!"] 2018-06-02T01:55:04 < Laurenceb_> with some suppliers you will need to add your own regulator 2018-06-02T01:55:50 -!- CygniX [~CygniX@opensuse/member/CygniX] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T01:56:00 < jadew> looks like my balloon is less than 1 cubic meter in volume (according to that calculator, but I don't know how it could know that) 2018-06-02T01:56:23 < jadew> I bought this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOTEX-200g-HIGH-ALTITUDE-WEATHER-BALLOON-Giant-Party-Balloon/263703157989 2018-06-02T01:56:46 < Laurenceb_> thats very small 2018-06-02T01:56:56 < stvn> nice 2018-06-02T01:57:10 < jadew> Laurenceb_, should be fine for the first try I think 2018-06-02T01:57:14 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2018-06-02T01:58:56 < jadew> that calculator says it's gonna pop quite fast 2018-06-02T01:59:16 < jadew> I suppose I have to make it heavy enough not to get too high? 2018-06-02T02:00:28 < Laurenceb_> yeah you need a larger balloon or a very light payload 2018-06-02T02:01:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-02T02:01:12 < jadew> well, that calculator says it's gonna pop in 60 minutes with a 200 g payload, or in 350 with a 700 g payload 2018-06-02T02:01:30 < jadew> either way, it's very fast 2018-06-02T02:01:58 < jadew> how do I make it not pop? less helium maybe? 2018-06-02T02:02:13 < jadew> I want it to stay there for as long as possible 2018-06-02T02:02:21 < Laurenceb_> that would help 2018-06-02T02:03:11 < jadew> I guess I'll have to do a bit of math 2018-06-02T02:03:42 < Laurenceb_> the horror 2018-06-02T02:03:46 < jadew> to figure out how much space helium is going to occupy at the maximum target altitude 2018-06-02T02:04:04 < jadew> so I can fill it just enough so it doesn't pop 2018-06-02T02:04:46 < jadew> then I'll need to measure the volume of gas I'm pumping into it 2018-06-02T02:04:49 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/vuNqyYN >gab.ai 2018-06-02T02:08:01 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-02T02:08:17 < Laurenceb_> twitter for rapists 2018-06-02T02:08:55 < jadew> I know somone who met his long term gf on tinder 2018-06-02T02:09:04 < jadew> sometimes it works out 2018-06-02T02:09:14 < jadew> or not, depending on how you look at it 2018-06-02T02:09:25 < stvn> Yes 2018-06-02T02:14:51 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.250.226.62] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T02:32:04 < stvn> nek minnit date rape is going to be classed as a 'hack' 2018-06-02T02:36:25 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-02T02:36:30 < Laurenceb_> "sex hacking" 2018-06-02T02:39:48 < mawk> mbed uses the CPP variable for the C++ compiler, instead of CXX 2018-06-02T02:41:07 < mawk> that's very inappropriate 2018-06-02T02:51:31 < stvn> Laurenceb_: have you discovered any autism mainlines this week? 2018-06-02T03:11:20 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-02T03:14:22 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-02T03:16:06 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/lbJ7Xmu 2018-06-02T03:16:13 < Laurenceb_> le ugly autiste 2018-06-02T03:27:05 -!- inca [~inca@12.231.128.57] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T03:29:18 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/0irHpd5 2018-06-02T03:29:23 < Laurenceb_> tfw u live in London 2018-06-02T03:34:15 -!- inca [~inca@12.231.128.57] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 2018-06-02T03:34:26 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/XyekZU3 2018-06-02T03:34:34 < Laurenceb_> wtf is this shit lol 2018-06-02T03:38:04 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/YuQ2i8f 2018-06-02T03:38:45 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/LoBgqLe 2018-06-02T03:43:15 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T03:49:00 < stvn> isis dbz hybrid not bad 2018-06-02T03:50:18 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spp2KnGOhCU 2018-06-02T03:50:34 < stvn> i'd give that 7 assburgers out of 5 2018-06-02T03:51:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T03:51:45 < englishman> wow 2018-06-02T03:52:06 < englishman> 1M subscribers to an ad for men's razors 2018-06-02T03:53:32 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-02T03:56:20 < stvn> lol 2018-06-02T03:56:43 < Laurenceb_> shaving to get the cuck cage to fit 2018-06-02T04:03:14 < stvn> i like it 2018-06-02T04:03:27 < stvn> face 2018-06-02T04:03:51 -!- comptroller 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chinese and sheeet? 2018-06-02T04:24:55 < stvn> heh that looks like a big read 2018-06-02T04:25:20 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampul_tapestry 2018-06-02T04:25:29 < Laurenceb_> china has always been european 2018-06-02T04:25:43 < stvn> cool 2018-06-02T04:25:53 < Laurenceb_> only bigots would question european rule in china 2018-06-02T04:26:09 < stvn> bit of the old heritage mate 2018-06-02T04:27:12 < stvn> cash cuntverters 2018-06-02T04:27:19 < stvn> wrong ch 2018-06-02T04:29:30 < Laurenceb_> still not as lulzy as the black supremacist forumz 2018-06-02T04:29:39 < Laurenceb_> they unironically think celts were black 2018-06-02T04:30:25 < stvn> what happens when their welfare is cancelled? 2018-06-02T04:33:02 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/1LWVOMD.jpg 2018-06-02T04:39:31 < Laurenceb_> this seems quite autistic https://hackaday.com/2018/05/31/modular-robotics-made-easier-with-ros/ 2018-06-02T04:41:42 < stvn> https://hackaday.com/2018/05/31/reverse-emulating-nes-nintendception/ 2018-06-02T04:41:47 < stvn> thats more autistic 2018-06-02T04:42:01 < stvn> that's already been done to other consoles 2018-06-02T04:46:20 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/orPWEtc 2018-06-02T04:46:38 < Laurenceb_> typical hackaday project 2018-06-02T04:47:30 < Laurenceb_> nice enclosure... 2018-06-02T04:49:05 < englishman> thread and openthread seem largely unfinished 2018-06-02T04:51:07 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B0812DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T04:51:51 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T04:54:27 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081F1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T05:02:14 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-02T05:02:16 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T05:16:35 -!- Streaker 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2018-06-02T05:55:03 < englishman> that is already far more than they will ever produce 2018-06-02T05:55:09 < dongs> like 2018-06-02T05:55:13 < dongs> you know when you plug in phones 2018-06-02T05:55:17 < dongs> some of them dont dim the screen 2018-06-02T05:55:22 < dongs> i htink if you plug it into that 2018-06-02T05:55:25 < dongs> and forget to turn off 2018-06-02T05:55:34 < dongs> the phone will use more power than the fucking pad can provide 2018-06-02T05:55:38 < dongs> just sitting on desk 2018-06-02T05:55:54 < dongs> http://www.wi-charge.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Tx3D.png 2018-06-02T05:55:57 < englishman> dong did you hear my picvictory today 2018-06-02T05:56:06 < dongs> no wat is it 2018-06-02T05:56:15 < englishman> so i did this assembly 2018-06-02T05:56:19 < englishman> with PIC18F4450 2018-06-02T05:56:21 < englishman> 4550 2018-06-02T05:56:24 < dongs> oh pic 2018-06-02T05:56:33 < englishman> assembled, shipped, no big deal 2018-06-02T05:56:34 < dongs> mhm 2018-06-02T05:56:51 < englishman> yesterday i get an email, every chip is broken, RB1 does not work (portb pin 1) 2018-06-02T05:56:58 < englishman> the chips are defective 2018-06-02T05:57:02 < englishman> like thats is what he wrote 2018-06-02T05:57:05 < dongs> heh 2018-06-02T05:57:11 < englishman> "i am 100% sure the chips are defective" 2018-06-02T05:57:12 < dongs> yes, beacuse you casn actualyl get that 2018-06-02T05:57:21 < englishman> so i receive the shit back 2018-06-02T05:57:28 < englishman> and having never programmed pic ever in my life 2018-06-02T05:57:49 < englishman> grab a dusty old pickit2 and within 2 hours i have a working project, flashed it and tested the input of RB1 and lit a led with it 2018-06-02T05:58:26 < englishman> i wrote my "go fuck yourself" email so sweetly 2018-06-02T05:58:45 < dongs> lol 2018-06-02T05:58:46 < englishman> still 2 more hours than i should have spent on it in the first place, but i can tell him to suck my dick now. 2018-06-02T06:00:13 -!- 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https://imgur.com/gallery/VCFet 2018-06-02T10:47:20 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T10:48:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T10:49:03 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T11:06:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T11:14:54 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T11:18:25 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T11:19:27 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T11:21:30 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:34c0:63c7:b9b8:54d6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T11:24:58 < Hamilton> Look what I've found. Because this is what ##stm32 needs but not deserves 2018-06-02T11:24:58 < Hamilton> https://www.edx.org/course/programming-an-object-with-arduino?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_themed_lifestyle_20180531&utm_term=NL%20Actives 2018-06-02T11:27:03 < Steffanx> Hamilton: the door is there 👉 2018-06-02T11:27:14 < Steffanx> Get out. 2018-06-02T11:27:27 < Hamilton> Steffanx, But don't you want to become a ninja? 2018-06-02T11:27:46 < Hamilton> *Arduino Ninja 2018-06-02T11:29:03 * Hamilton secretly actually likes Arduino platform (just for beginners) 2018-06-02T11:31:40 < PeterM> neck 2018-06-02T11:31:55 < PeterM> mbed>>tarduino 2018-06-02T11:32:01 < PeterM> and mbed is still trash 2018-06-02T11:33:13 < Hamilton> PeterM, But I've learned shitty-ness of debugging via printf by Arduino :) 2018-06-02T11:33:48 < Hamilton> And shitty-ness of busy-waiting...shitty-ness of poor IDEs 2018-06-02T12:50:10 < stvn> wtf is this about today 2018-06-02T13:03:03 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T13:03:49 < Hamilton> Has anyone done printf/scanf redirecting using HAL_Transmit and Receives? (I want to redirect USART2) 2018-06-02T13:04:24 < Hamilton> It is strange, while((__HAL_UART_GET_FLAG(huart, Flag) ? SET : RESET) == Status) does not detect that there is something in RX buffer 2018-06-02T13:04:55 < Hamilton> I wonder if HAL's implementation is buggy in this matter 2018-06-02T13:07:19 < antto> my unfinished ghetto logic probe: https://i.imgur.com/77XFh40.png 2018-06-02T13:07:55 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-02T13:09:27 < jpa-> what does Vpp stand for? 2018-06-02T13:09:59 < antto> it's not yet determined 2018-06-02T13:10:13 < antto> but it should be something around 3 to 5 volts 2018-06-02T13:12:06 < antto> the idea is to be able to hear some logic signal (if it's in the audible range of course) with the buzzer, and additionally, it'd be very very nice if it can display the signal state - high, low, and floating (unconnected) 2018-06-02T13:13:19 < Steffanx> Question is.. how often is your logic signal freq in the audible range? 2018-06-02T13:14:04 < antto> who cares, if it displays the state with LEDs - it's still useful 2018-06-02T13:14:41 < Hamilton> Oh hell it was looking for \n ! 2018-06-02T13:14:51 < Steffanx> You seem to care. I was just wondering what you're idea was mr antto 2018-06-02T13:15:14 < Steffanx> *your 2018-06-02T13:15:15 < Steffanx> damnit 2018-06-02T13:15:17 < antto> Steffanx, when you just want to quickly debug something 2018-06-02T13:15:41 < Steffanx> Or will you just use one of those apply voltage and it starts buzzing buzzers? 2018-06-02T13:15:55 < antto> and you hope you can find the problem the easy way without having to turn on the NASTY rigol scope 2018-06-02T13:16:39 < antto> maybe if you have a proper scope and nice tools - you won't have any use for a ghetto logic probe 2018-06-02T13:17:13 < antto> i don't have my own scope, so it'd be very useful at home 2018-06-02T13:17:16 < Steffanx> I understand the visual part, but .. the buzzer and your "if it's in the audible range of cours" i dont. For me it's ofter just a tiny few hertz or > 20kHz. 2018-06-02T13:17:32 < Steffanx> So it wouldnt be audible or .. it wont make sound. 2018-06-02T13:17:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-02T13:17:47 < antto> what is it that you don't understand?! 2018-06-02T13:18:02 < Steffanx> "So it wouldnt be audible or .. it wont make sound." <= that. 2018-06-02T13:18:12 < antto> if you have a USART - you can probe it 2018-06-02T13:18:20 < antto> USART/UART 2018-06-02T13:18:44 < Steffanx> oh, yes. UART is usually in the audible range, forgot about uart :P. 2018-06-02T13:19:08 < Steffanx> *usually = sometimes. 2018-06-02T13:19:12 < Hamilton> Steffanx, He can add a pot to linearly divide all freqs so they'd be in audible rage 2018-06-02T13:19:26 < antto> Hamilton, wut 2018-06-02T13:19:39 < Hamilton> Actually antto, the keyword you should look for is auditory displays 2018-06-02T13:19:42 < Hamilton> or sonification 2018-06-02T13:19:42 < antto> a pot that divides frequencies? 2018-06-02T13:20:01 < Hamilton> antto, I meant some controls to divide frequncy 2018-06-02T13:20:11 < antto> i don't need that 2018-06-02T13:20:20 < BrainDamage> just assign 2 frequencies the logic states 2018-06-02T13:21:45 < Steffanx> There is no need to go into hostile mode immediatly antto. I was just wondering what your idea behind the audio stuff was. 2018-06-02T13:22:27 < antto> i've used a simplified variant of this thing at the job 2018-06-02T13:22:49 < antto> it was just a buzzer with a transistor to drive it, and it had to take power from the circuit being measured 2018-06-02T13:23:11 < Steffanx> For high freqency stuff you can always go jpa--style: http://essentialscrap.com/emfwand/ 2018-06-02T13:23:17 < Steffanx> *higher 2018-06-02T13:23:24 < antto> when working on my RFID readers - i could tell immediately when something is wrong with the manchester signal or not 2018-06-02T13:23:29 < BrainDamage> ah, good old lm386 2018-06-02T13:23:32 < antto> just by probing it and listening to it 2018-06-02T13:24:34 < Hamilton> BrainDamage, I once heard local FM with LM386 (max gain) 2018-06-02T13:24:44 < Hamilton> But I guess it should be AM 2018-06-02T13:24:45 < antto> i could also tell if the reader was generating "normal" RFID packets or "error" packets on the UART 2018-06-02T13:25:02 < antto> ..just by listening 2018-06-02T13:25:09 < BrainDamage> It's likely am, but FM is not technically impossible, just rarer 2018-06-02T13:25:45 < BrainDamage> It's possible to do incoherent FM demodulation if you have a lowpass with slope across the fm bandwith, followed by a AM detector 2018-06-02T13:26:07 < Hamilton> * antto The Bat-debugger of ##stm32 * 2018-06-02T13:26:32 < Steffanx> http://www.businessinsider.com/2-billion-startup-github-could-be-for-sale-microsoft-2018-5 Soon git will be integrated into windows 10 \o/ 2018-06-02T13:26:43 < BrainDamage> Accidental AM detectors are plentyful since you only need nonlinearity and lowpass to do it 2018-06-02T13:26:44 < Hamilton> Steffanx, wut? 2018-06-02T13:26:46 < Hamilton> n000 2018-06-02T13:26:51 < Steffanx> oh, fuck. It's a payware article. 2018-06-02T13:27:08 < Hamilton> Steffanx, *paywalled 2018-06-02T13:27:32 < Steffanx> I like the sound of "payware" more. 2018-06-02T13:27:38 < BrainDamage> what do you mean with paywalled? 2018-06-02T13:27:39 < Hamilton> :) 2018-06-02T13:27:43 < BrainDamage> It opens fine here 2018-06-02T13:27:47 < Steffanx> its not here. 2018-06-02T13:28:06 < Steffanx> "Read the full story" blablabla 2018-06-02T13:28:32 < stvn> works on my machine 2018-06-02T13:29:00 < BrainDamage> probably the usual bullshit about regional distribution agreenments 2018-06-02T13:29:19 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: https://ptpb.pw/llV1.zip 2018-06-02T13:29:53 < Steffanx> hah. 2018-06-02T13:30:19 < BrainDamage> I'm pirating a website 2018-06-02T13:31:00 < Hamilton> Windows needs to buy and integrate MSYS2 if it wants to do good 2018-06-02T13:31:05 < Hamilton> *Microsoft 2018-06-02T13:31:16 < BrainDamage> Didn't they do it already? 2018-06-02T13:31:29 < BrainDamage> Just ubuntu-based instead 2018-06-02T13:31:51 < Steffanx> There is even debian for windows i believe 2018-06-02T13:31:52 < Hamilton> BrainDamage, So linux utilities work on that bash? 2018-06-02T13:31:56 < Steffanx> and even more 2018-06-02T13:32:08 < Steffanx> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/search/result.aspx?q=linux 2018-06-02T13:32:43 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-02T13:32:48 < BrainDamage> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/247804/how-to-remove-linux-and-install-windows-on-your-computer 2018-06-02T13:32:50 < Hamilton> Slashdotters have a conspiracy theory that M$ wants to pull a EEE (embrace-extend-extinguish) strat on linux 2018-06-02T13:33:26 < BrainDamage> It's not a conspiracy theory when they've been doing so for decades in other fields 2018-06-02T13:33:48 < BrainDamage> Just an hypothesis with limited evidence 2018-06-02T13:34:18 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T13:39:12 < Streaker> "In order to continue enjoying the benefits of GitHub please upgrade to Windows 10 today" 2018-06-02T13:42:09 -!- bitrot [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-02T13:42:19 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T13:44:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-02T13:48:11 < dongs> Did this solve your problem? [ Yes ] [ No ] 2018-06-02T13:48:13 < dongs> definitely yes 2018-06-02T13:48:16 < dongs> lunix removed, thank you microsoft 2018-06-02T13:51:51 < Steffanx> Makes me wonder how lunix ended up being installed in the first poace 2018-06-02T13:55:05 < stvn> hmmmm 2018-06-02T13:55:12 < dongs> don't wonder 2018-06-02T13:55:12 < stvn> the linux 2018-06-02T13:55:19 < dongs> it never was 2018-06-02T13:55:27 < dongs> i would never cripple my computer with lunix 2018-06-02T13:55:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-02b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-02T13:58:03 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:01:49 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:06:56 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:06:57 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:09:47 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:09:57 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:12:33 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:12:38 < dongs> hm. fuck. 2018-06-02T14:12:53 < dongs> so my uart/stm32flash issue IS the 485 driver being connected 2018-06-02T14:13:09 < dongs> if I use same usart pins for raw usart without driver, it doesnt work 2018-06-02T14:13:13 < dongs> same board with 485 removed, it works 2018-06-02T14:15:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a00:801:250:cacf:a15e:3a8d:c099:d6c0] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:16:26 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:18:24 < zyp> wat 2018-06-02T14:18:51 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:19:21 < dongs> i have 2 outputs from the board, reguar uart, and same shared with a 485 driver 2018-06-02T14:19:29 < dongs> i connect target to either 485 or to reguar 2018-06-02T14:20:22 < dongs> this is the same shit that works if scope is connected 2018-06-02T14:20:24 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:20:48 < Hamilton> So the maximum baud-rate according to baud = (fck / 16) is 4.5e6? 2018-06-02T14:21:05 < zyp> dongs, which rs485 driver? 2018-06-02T14:21:31 < dongs> any, some generic max485 shit 2018-06-02T14:21:37 < dongs> i think each board has a random differnt one 2018-06-02T14:21:41 < zyp> Hamilton, you could theoretically run 8 bit oversampling 2018-06-02T14:21:58 < dongs> this particular one looks max485csa 2018-06-02T14:22:11 < dongs> other max1478 2018-06-02T14:22:19 < dongs> other max14783 2018-06-02T14:22:45 < zyp> and what do you do about re/de when not using it? 2018-06-02T14:22:53 < dongs> tried different ways 2018-06-02T14:22:55 < dongs> float, low, high 2018-06-02T14:23:07 < zyp> they're both connected together? 2018-06-02T14:23:09 < dongs> yea 2018-06-02T14:23:13 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:23:22 < zyp> uh, ok 2018-06-02T14:23:44 < zyp> is there any resistor or anything between ro and rx? 2018-06-02T14:23:50 < zyp> ro on the driver and rx on the mcu 2018-06-02T14:23:57 < dongs> not in series no 2018-06-02T14:24:05 < dongs> or in anything 2018-06-02T14:24:35 < zyp> but you need to be able to receive, right? 2018-06-02T14:24:54 < zyp> so the rs485 ro pin must be highz? 2018-06-02T14:25:02 < dongs> yeah? 2018-06-02T14:25:16 < dongs> so it should improve if i put re/de low to enable 485 driver right? 2018-06-02T14:25:24 < zyp> okay, so re must be high 2018-06-02T14:25:29 < zyp> since it's inverted 2018-06-02T14:25:59 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:26:05 < zyp> since they're hooked together, that also enables de, but that shouldn't matter as long as you don't have anything connected to the rs485 bus 2018-06-02T14:26:13 < dongs> yea i dont 2018-06-02T14:26:32 < zyp> anyway, expect nothing to work unless re is high 2018-06-02T14:27:15 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:27:42 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:28:13 < dongs> hmm its almsot as if i really need to separate them for this application huh 2018-06-02T14:28:33 < zyp> not a big issue as long as you're okay with the driver turning on 2018-06-02T14:28:53 < dongs> it means i have to have an actual setting to enable 485 or not 2018-06-02T14:29:00 < dongs> during write() and read() 2018-06-02T14:29:20 < dongs> or else if I toggle re/de during read() i'll get stuff from driver instead of raw uart 2018-06-02T14:29:30 < zyp> yes 2018-06-02T14:30:39 < dongs> bah annoying 2018-06-02T14:32:13 -!- fergusnoble [~fergusnob@repl.esden.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:33:23 < dongs> mm seems to work with rede high. 2018-06-02T14:33:27 < dongs> gonna let it sit on my desk for a bit and see 2018-06-02T14:33:49 < dongs> nope just failed 2018-06-02T14:34:04 < dongs> if i turn the connected target board over 2018-06-02T14:34:05 < dongs> it works 2018-06-02T14:34:09 -!- fergusnoble [~fergusnob@repl.esden.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:36:57 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:37:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:39:20 < dongs> fuck. 2018-06-02T14:42:31 < zyp> yeah? 2018-06-02T14:51:18 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T14:51:33 < Hamilton> zyp, It seems like STM32F1 only supports 16x oversampling (which couldn't be disabled). By theoretically, you meant changing the parameter inside HAL and that it is not officially supported? 2018-06-02T14:52:25 < zyp> you're reading too much into what I said, I just thought all stm32s supported 8x 2018-06-02T14:54:22 < zyp> you're right, f1 doesn't appear to have the OVER8 bit in USARTx_SR1, which controls oversampling 2018-06-02T14:54:30 < Hamilton> zyp, OK. About high uart baudrates like 4.5Mbps, Can a reliable connection be made using breadboards and jumper wires? Can I rely on the fact that with a proper board, I could have a 4.5Mbps connection? 2018-06-02T14:54:32 < zyp> so what I said doesn't apply to f1 2018-06-02T14:54:48 < zyp> dunno 2018-06-02T14:55:10 < zyp> I wouldn't be surprised if it worked, but I wouldn't be surprised if you saw sporadic errors either 2018-06-02T14:55:16 < Lux> Hamilton: did that once with 3 Mbaud, seemed to work 2018-06-02T14:55:32 < Hamilton> So what is a *safe* value to set for baud-rate for things like setting up a stdout debug retargetting? 2018-06-02T14:55:47 < Lux> but I wouldn't call it 100% reliable 2018-06-02T14:56:01 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-02T14:56:19 < Hamilton> Lux, hmm..good to know...someone on SE has problems with 115200 though even 2018-06-02T14:57:17 < Lux> allways depends on your setup, also grounding can be an issue 2018-06-02T14:57:49 < Hamilton> Lux, I guess one of the reasons for RS232 was to boost voltages to prevent these issues, right? 2018-06-02T14:57:52 < Lux> plus cheap jumper wires suck too at times 2018-06-02T14:58:17 < Lux> but that'll only work up to 1Mbaud 2018-06-02T14:58:33 < Lux> i guess that helps more with longer connections 2018-06-02T14:59:21 < Lux> if the cables are short it should still work with ttl levels 2018-06-02T14:59:38 < Hamilton> I guess if UART worked for high baudrates, there wouldn't be a need for USB or Ethernet :| 2018-06-02T15:00:25 < Lux> allways depends on your setup 2018-06-02T15:00:41 < Lux> you can do usart to with a clock line, that'll work better 2018-06-02T15:01:15 < Hamilton> I once used bit-banged UART in arduino @57600, and I was like losing 0.8% of packets 2018-06-02T15:28:55 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T15:29:51 < Cracki> let's talk about your assertion 2018-06-02T15:30:08 < Cracki> uart is clockless and non-differential 2018-06-02T15:30:23 < Cracki> clocked signals are easier to sample because you don't have to recover the clock 2018-06-02T15:30:30 < Cracki> differential signals propagate easier 2018-06-02T15:30:59 < Cracki> high data rate is always more challenging because you must put the received data *away* fast enough 2018-06-02T15:31:51 < Cracki> an arduino has one byte (or two, implicitly) of receive buffer for each of uart, spi, ... 2018-06-02T15:32:32 < Cracki> so if your data received interrupt doesn't start or finish fast enough, you lose data. 2018-06-02T15:33:51 < Cracki> beefier things have DMA do handle these data rates. 2018-06-02T15:34:53 < Cracki> arduinos also get in trouble with high uart rates because they're often not driven from a clock that's a nice multiple of "normal" serial clocks. 2018-06-02T15:35:48 < Cracki> so you get an effective error of a few percent in the clock rate. that can annoy the other side. 2018-06-02T15:36:54 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T15:37:51 < dongs> fuck 2018-06-02T15:37:59 < dongs> this shit fails just depending on board position on the desk 2018-06-02T15:38:01 < dongs> the fuck is going on 2018-06-02T15:38:02 < dongs> lol 2018-06-02T15:38:24 < englishman> cool 2018-06-02T15:38:30 < Steffanx> cosmic interference 2018-06-02T15:38:33 < dongs> ya 2018-06-02T15:38:39 < englishman> how fast are the signalz 2018-06-02T15:38:46 < dongs> 57600 baud 2018-06-02T15:38:51 < englishman> lol 2018-06-02T15:38:53 < dongs> it should not fucking fail evar 2018-06-02T15:39:00 < dongs> worst: it never fails with scope on 2018-06-02T15:39:07 < dongs> so i cant even look at the shti 2018-06-02T15:39:29 < antto> include the scope in the BOM 2018-06-02T15:39:34 < antto> like a boss 2018-06-02T15:40:11 < Cracki> ^ 2018-06-02T15:49:04 < sync> dongs: what is your edge rate? 2018-06-02T15:49:59 < dongs> you mean io pin speed? 2018-06-02T15:50:43 < sync> rise/fall time, but yes 2018-06-02T15:50:49 < dongs> 2mhz 2018-06-02T15:51:06 < dongs> its just stm32 connected to stm32 with jumper wires 2018-06-02T15:51:11 < sync> hm 2018-06-02T15:51:28 < dongs> and 1st stm32 has a 485 driver on same uart, but its in DE mode (RO floating, Driver enabled) 2018-06-02T15:51:38 < sync> that should work fine tbh, but maybe try putting termination at one end? 2018-06-02T15:52:04 < dongs> they're connected by regular uart, not 485 2018-06-02T15:52:51 < sync> yes 2018-06-02T15:52:54 < sync> but still 2018-06-02T15:53:21 < sync> if you can influence it with the few pf your scope adds there is some fucky issue 2018-06-02T15:53:25 < sync> how is the grounding? 2018-06-02T15:53:31 < sync> maybe twist the jumpers? 2018-06-02T15:53:37 < dongs> shared over same jumperwire 2018-06-02T15:53:46 < dongs> yeah but i mean, i cant expect something liek this to be needed 2018-06-02T15:54:15 < sync> meh 2018-06-02T15:54:21 < dongs> the purpose of this board is that shittyflasher thing, so I want to be able to connect it to various stm boards around here to flash them 2018-06-02T15:54:37 < sync> are you pushpulling the io? 2018-06-02T15:54:42 < dongs> so oit better work with any target 2018-06-02T15:54:54 < sync> ya sure, but it obv doesn't work atm 2018-06-02T15:54:58 < dongs> well, its AF on F4 2018-06-02T15:55:11 < dongs> otype PP, mode_AF 2018-06-02T15:55:16 < dongs> so i guess? 2018-06-02T15:56:20 < dongs> im waiting 800ms after power on for the bootloader to boot 2018-06-02T15:56:24 < dongs> pretty sure thats more than enough 2018-06-02T15:56:33 < dongs> it worked with scope with even less delay 2018-06-02T16:00:52 < dongs> totally repeatable: board 10cm off the table, works every time 2018-06-02T16:09:22 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-02T16:11:13 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:34c0:63c7:b9b8:54d6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-02T16:11:40 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/uIkie8y.png when it works with scope, the scope looks just fine 2018-06-02T16:12:30 < dongs> hmm when it fails, its a parity error 2018-06-02T16:12:33 < dongs> according to scope anyway 2018-06-02T16:13:05 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/Zjh5mrl.png 2018-06-02T16:13:06 < dongs> wtf 2018-06-02T16:14:43 < Hamilton> Cracki, Good points 2018-06-02T16:16:07 < dongs> wut 2018-06-02T16:17:57 < Cracki> I said anything? 2018-06-02T16:18:04 < Cracki> ah 2018-06-02T16:18:41 < Cracki> dongs show scope view 2018-06-02T16:19:04 < Cracki> maybe it over/undershoots heavily, and the scope capacitance gets it barely working 2018-06-02T16:19:23 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T16:19:27 < Cracki> IO pin drive strength is appropriate? not too strong, or too weak? 2018-06-02T16:19:57 < Cracki> hm that scope view looks way too neat. 2018-06-02T16:20:06 < Cracki> time base must be slow 2018-06-02T16:20:09 < dongs> it is scope view 2018-06-02T16:20:28 < Cracki> finer time base 2018-06-02T16:20:36 < Cracki> possibly signal is shit 2018-06-02T16:20:50 < Cracki> at high altitude, impossible to see 2018-06-02T16:22:33 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/UEG2XtF.png theres a bit of ringing on the edges but thats not gonna do anything 2018-06-02T16:22:42 < dongs> and not every transition has it also 2018-06-02T16:23:11 < Cracki> yikes that's some overshoot 2018-06-02T16:23:18 < Cracki> look at falling edges 2018-06-02T16:23:47 < dongs> same there too 2018-06-02T16:24:03 < dongs> again, i dont expect clean signal. this is going over shitty jumper wires 2018-06-02T16:24:04 < Cracki> at least it doesn't ring hard enough to toggle 2018-06-02T16:24:06 < dongs> but it shouldnt be failing 2018-06-02T16:24:18 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-02T16:24:47 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/X4YAnbm.png look at timescale, taht ring is completely harmless 2018-06-02T16:24:59 < Cracki> hm 2018-06-02T16:25:16 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T16:25:20 < dongs> thats liek first bit of 0x31 orw ahtever 2018-06-02T16:26:04 < Cracki> so data looks ok on the scope... 2018-06-02T16:26:15 < Cracki> does it look ok on the receiver too, when the scope is attached? 2018-06-02T16:26:22 < dongs> well that IS at receiver 2018-06-02T16:26:34 < Cracki> yes yes, the signal 2018-06-02T16:26:36 < dongs> im probing where its connected to target 2018-06-02T16:26:40 < Cracki> but does the receiver decode it right? 2018-06-02T16:26:43 < dongs> sure 2018-06-02T16:26:50 < Cracki> uh so what's the problem again? 2018-06-02T16:26:51 < dongs> with scope connected, i have yet to get it to fail 2018-06-02T16:26:55 < Cracki> ic 2018-06-02T16:27:05 < dongs> it fails when a) no scope b) board is in different place on desk 2018-06-02T16:27:24 < Cracki> replace scope with some other capacitance? 2018-06-02T16:27:34 < Cracki> almost sounds like something is floating 2018-06-02T16:27:47 < dongs> nothing is tho 2018-06-02T16:28:03 < Cracki> bad contacts? 2018-06-02T16:28:07 < Cracki> broken jumper wires? 2018-06-02T16:28:27 < Cracki> moving things would cause contact to come and go 2018-06-02T16:30:15 < Hamilton> The mystery is strong with this one. I really want to know what could be the cause of the problem? :) 2018-06-02T16:30:29 < dongs> it never fails with scope 2018-06-02T16:30:35 < dongs> so ican't tell whats wrong when it does 2018-06-02T16:30:43 < Hamilton> You could also post a picture of the setup (wirings and such) 2018-06-02T16:31:03 < Cracki> inb4 spaghetti 2018-06-02T16:31:24 < Cracki> scope prolly grounds the setup 2018-06-02T16:31:35 < Cracki> try scoping in AC mode, without ground connection 2018-06-02T16:32:05 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/TrxjQjd.jpg of course its shit, but the point is its supposed to be shit 2018-06-02T16:32:26 < dongs> its jsut fucking 56k uart 2018-06-02T16:32:57 < Hamilton> IT LITERRALY HAS THE NAME SHITTY FLASHER 2018-06-02T16:33:01 < dongs> yes 2018-06-02T16:33:04 < Hamilton> I'm ded 2018-06-02T16:33:59 < dongs> cant fucking fail it with scope 2018-06-02T16:34:01 < dongs> not even once 2018-06-02T16:34:04 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-02T16:34:19 < zyp> haha 2018-06-02T16:36:24 < dongs> in AC mode it just looks fucky and wavy 2018-06-02T16:36:51 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/d0YNhEy.png 2018-06-02T16:36:58 < dongs> and still doesnt fail 2018-06-02T16:37:00 < Hamilton> dongs, the left one is RX? The scope's probes seem to press the pin headers...and IMO, the center pin (attached to white wire) seems to have a bulge in solder 2018-06-02T16:37:35 < dongs> its rx/gnd/tx or wahtever 2018-06-02T16:37:42 < dongs> white = gnd 2018-06-02T16:37:49 < Hamilton> The ground pin's solder is good? 2018-06-02T16:37:53 < dongs> sure 2018-06-02T16:39:23 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T16:39:50 < Hamilton> dongs, Maybe swapping TX/RX and looking at the right side would help? 2018-06-02T16:40:02 < Hamilton> In case sth is wrong the RX module 2018-06-02T16:41:16 < dongs> what do you mean 2018-06-02T16:41:25 < PeterM> dongs you havent done anything dumb like have your jumper wires twisted together or some shit? 2018-06-02T16:41:49 < dongs> theyt're just how you see htem in the pic 2018-06-02T16:42:47 < dongs> of course now i cant get it to fail even without a scope 2018-06-02T16:43:21 < Hamilton> dongs, Do you have a FTDI around? send some shit with FTDI to RX and see if the problem persists? 2018-06-02T16:43:41 < Hamilton> and vice-versa 2018-06-02T16:44:15 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-02T16:44:57 < invzim> calling all analog gurus 2018-06-02T16:45:32 < invzim> putting a wave through a cap removes dc bias - how does the capacitance come into play/effects? 2018-06-02T16:45:41 < Hamilton> I'm still very suspicous on the inconsistency of solder joins: https://imgur.com/a/IPJGjzR 2018-06-02T16:46:15 < PeterM> 1/(2*pi*f*c) = Z 2018-06-02T16:46:24 < dongs> Hamilton: nah thats fine 2018-06-02T16:46:39 < invzim> PeterM: frequency, capacitance, impedance? 2018-06-02T16:46:42 < dongs> its just a shitty right angle header its sodlered fine. its been on that board for a year 2018-06-02T16:46:45 < PeterM> yes 2018-06-02T16:47:17 < PeterM> dongs stick a 10k pulldown on each boards rx pins 2018-06-02T16:47:33 < dongs> i cant do that to everyt target ill be flashing 2018-06-02T16:47:57 < PeterM> stick one on your flasher tehn 2018-06-02T16:48:28 < PeterM> theres probably some high z pin thats picking up the tiniest bit of crap 2018-06-02T16:48:32 < PeterM> making it shit the bed 2018-06-02T16:48:50 < invzim> PeterM: I'm feeding video signal to ADC, the cap in question is for dc restoration. Will a higher capacitance somehow smooth things out? 2018-06-02T16:49:04 < PeterM> no 2018-06-02T16:49:20 < dongs> invzim: they put caps into displayport lanes 2018-06-02T16:49:20 < PeterM> higher capacitance will jsut mean lower frequency signals will pass easier 2018-06-02T16:49:24 < dongs> they run at like Ghz 2018-06-02T16:49:29 < invzim> having a nasty unwanted spike from source on beginning of a scanline that messes things up a bit 2018-06-02T16:50:03 < invzim> hm, so could experiment with ferrite, or I may have to add a LPF thingie 2018-06-02T16:50:24 < PeterM> put a 100k resistor divider between gnd and vcc with the midpoint connected to the adc pin and hte cap 2018-06-02T16:51:24 < invzim> mm? I'm terminating/dividing the signal before the cap already 2018-06-02T16:51:35 < PeterM> ... 2018-06-02T16:51:56 < PeterM> you have a cap goign stright to the adc pin right? 2018-06-02T16:52:04 < PeterM> the divider is before the cap? 2018-06-02T16:52:05 < invzim> yes, in series 2018-06-02T16:52:08 < invzim> yes 2018-06-02T16:52:12 < invzim> pr datasheet 2018-06-02T16:52:18 < PeterM> do that i said 2018-06-02T16:52:41 < PeterM> unless your adc has +/- rail 2018-06-02T16:53:03 < dongs> hes talkin about video adc i believe 2018-06-02T16:53:10 < dongs> what are you feeding into it fucking cvbs or something? 2018-06-02T16:53:43 < invzim> rgb - http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD9984A.pdf 2018-06-02T16:54:03 < invzim> something I've been working on forever, works OK - but got a source (arcade PCB), with particulary nasty dirty video 2018-06-02T16:56:17 < PeterM> invzim you ahve a scope right? 2018-06-02T16:57:05 < invzim> I do 2018-06-02T16:57:19 < invzim> that's where I see the nastyness 2018-06-02T16:57:33 < PeterM> probe the adc pin in 10x, dc coupled, and well grounded 2018-06-02T16:57:45 < PeterM> does teh signal go below ground at all. 2018-06-02T16:59:05 < invzim> I don't think so, the way I understand it the ADC works with the external cap to do dc restoration 2018-06-02T16:59:25 < PeterM> you dont think so? 2018-06-02T16:59:35 < PeterM> probe it 2018-06-02T17:00:42 < PeterM> i want to know if it actually does go below ground or not, not if you think it does 2018-06-02T17:03:07 < zyp> haha :) 2018-06-02T17:07:57 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T17:09:11 < englishman> fuck pic and fuck everyone who uses pic 2018-06-02T17:09:30 < Steffanx> no ty. 2018-06-02T17:09:53 < Hamilton> englishman, Weren't you happy just the other day that you brought-up sth in pic? 2018-06-02T17:10:28 < Hamilton> Today I learned there is a IRC channel for #chibios 2018-06-02T17:10:47 < PeterM> englishman did the frenchies not pay up? 2018-06-02T17:11:21 < englishman> he asked me for my blinky.c 2018-06-02T17:11:28 < Steffanx> back in the days that channel was actually active Hamilton. I dont think its very active nowadays 2018-06-02T17:11:29 < englishman> literally blinky 2018-06-02T17:11:38 < englishman> my first pic program ever 2018-06-02T17:11:46 < englishman> how much should I charge 2018-06-02T17:11:47 < Streaker> coding is hard 2018-06-02T17:12:09 -!- qu1j0t3 [~FurnaceBo@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T17:12:12 < Streaker> $120 per hour that it would take him to write that code 2018-06-02T17:12:25 < Hamilton> Steffanx, :( Analog, stellaris, pretty much everywhere is silent except here 2018-06-02T17:13:05 < Hamilton> #hackaday, #eevblog, also silent 2018-06-02T17:13:20 < Steffanx> but it's only 10% or so that produces shit said in here :P 2018-06-02T17:13:29 < qu1j0t3> like most channels 2018-06-02T17:13:30 < Streaker> #43oh used to be active. I don't know if it still is. 2018-06-02T17:13:59 < Steffanx> Fancy nick, mr aussie. :P 2018-06-02T17:15:31 < BrainDamage> the aggression keeps the channel alive 2018-06-02T17:15:41 < PeterM> englishman $70, but write it all on napkins and take cellphone pictures and email it to him like that 2018-06-02T17:15:56 < Steffanx> :D 2018-06-02T17:16:17 < Hamilton> englishman, inb4 he says "I'm 100% sure your PICs are broken" 2018-06-02T17:17:14 < PeterM> or do it for free and use variable names like "NotBrokenPIC" 2018-06-02T17:17:35 < PeterM> and "SeeItWorks" 2018-06-02T17:18:58 < Steffanx> Where is stvn? 2018-06-02T17:20:39 < Steffanx> He has been grumpy all day. 2018-06-02T17:30:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T17:33:46 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T17:33:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a00:801:250:cacf:a15e:3a8d:c099:d6c0] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-02T17:34:28 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T17:35:37 < PeterM> invzim so, how goes the probing? 2018-06-02T17:43:11 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T18:15:04 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:8024:d45c:bc57:bbb2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T18:29:03 < mawk> is arm_sqrt_f32 expensive ? 2018-06-02T18:32:18 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T18:34:19 < c10ud> depends on your cortex 2018-06-02T18:37:17 < Laurenceb_> on M0 it will be 2018-06-02T18:41:37 < invzim> PeterM: not at bench, it's not a biasing issue - but possibly a variable black level issue. Thanks for info about cap in series stuff tho 2018-06-02T18:53:03 < kakimir> do you know any comparators that have only one analog input 2018-06-02T18:53:23 < kakimir> another one being digital input value 2018-06-02T18:53:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T18:54:24 < PeterM> invzim its still worth checking if you havent, because black levels are directly related to dc bias iirc 2018-06-02T18:55:02 < PeterM> kakimir so you're looking for a comparator + dac + reference combo? 2018-06-02T18:55:16 < kakimir> yes kinda yes 2018-06-02T18:55:22 < kakimir> if I need it 2018-06-02T18:55:46 < kakimir> I'll find out in field testing if only polling won't do 2018-06-02T18:56:01 < kakimir> muh mcu doesn't compare 2018-06-02T18:56:11 < invzim> PeterM: from memory, I think the input pins show a pretty large dc offset - I'll have poke later 2018-06-02T18:57:12 < PeterM> dc offset can be corrected in the adc, but if it clips there is nothing you can do 2018-06-02T18:57:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T18:58:43 < invzim> the effect I'm seeing is kind of hard to explain, looks like sync noise but is not. A solid white is not solid white, but kind horizontal 'waves' that rolls vertically 2018-06-02T18:59:24 < invzim> on a couple of sources, part from those it works great and I've verified that the signal is messy - so just seeing if I can correct it 2018-06-02T19:00:53 < invzim> PeterM: it's this baby, https://irkenlabs.com/32-new-upscaler-prototype 2018-06-02T19:05:33 < PeterM> what do you mean by "messy"? poor edges? odd/drifiting dc offset? distortion compared to the expected waveform? 2018-06-02T19:07:20 < invzim> it's noisy as fuck, dips video signal way below 'black' during hsync, and does a nasty spike/overshoot going from this low to 'black' after 2018-06-02T19:07:46 < Cracki> isn't it supposed to dip below black, as a sync pulse? 2018-06-02T19:07:58 < invzim> this is rgb+csync, DC biased - so it behaves differently than all other arcade PCB's I've seen 2018-06-02T19:08:44 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T19:08:45 < invzim> Cracki: sync is a separate line :) 'retro rgb signals' are anything but uniform or standardized :) 2018-06-02T19:08:57 < Cracki> fun 2018-06-02T19:09:07 < invzim> yes it is, when you figure it out 2018-06-02T19:09:11 < Cracki> yes :) 2018-06-02T19:09:38 < Cracki> taking things apart is fun, figuring out what they say even more 2018-06-02T19:10:54 < PeterM> that sounds like it may not be terminated correctly - as you said, anything but uniform or standardized, so could be different to the typical "75ish"ohm 2018-06-02T19:11:22 < invzim> ah, it's not 75ohm at all - 'standard' says these signals should be around 1k 2018-06-02T19:11:42 < invzim> when measured, the sytems output anything from close to zero impedance to about 900 - with anything in between 2018-06-02T19:13:30 < invzim> this is one of the boards that is giving me issues, http://www.crazykong.com/pcbs/G%20-%20O/MoonPatrolBlue.pcb.jpg Goodness from 1982 :) 2018-06-02T19:17:27 < PeterM> yeah... you're going to see all kinds of weird shit like that with impedance mismatches 2018-06-02T19:17:34 < PeterM> gl hf 2018-06-02T19:25:28 < Steffanx> Lo 2018-06-02T19:37:17 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-02T19:38:07 < Laurenceb_> muh babby shakker 2018-06-02T19:38:19 < Laurenceb_> >Weedington Road had recently become bitterly contested “turf”, according to Ali, with youngsters from Queens Crescent clashing with those from nearby Agar Grove, Chalk Farm and Camden. Congolese teenagers had, he said, teamed up with Irish youngsters to take on the Somalis 2018-06-02T19:38:26 < Laurenceb_> the absolute state of britbongs 2018-06-02T19:38:29 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T19:45:15 < c10ud> neat 2018-06-02T19:45:40 < c10ud> enter africa from brexit 2018-06-02T19:50:17 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@46.248.40.67] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T19:51:36 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@46.248.40.67] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-02T19:53:02 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.200.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-02T19:53:25 < Laurenceb_> reeee 8chan is down 2018-06-02T19:53:31 < Laurenceb_> how will I shitpost now 2018-06-02T19:57:48 < c10ud> become a twitch memer 2018-06-02T19:59:20 < kakimir> twitch thot 2018-06-02T20:02:23 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T20:05:00 < bitmask> https://i.imgur.com/7S8Vqpn.png 2018-06-02T20:05:51 < nn77> reading through some government sourcecode I found this gem: "#define FASLE 0" 2018-06-02T20:06:35 < Steffanx> Someone visited ikea, bitmask? 2018-06-02T20:06:40 < bitmask> yup 2018-06-02T20:06:53 < nn77> hahah... I had those tables 2018-06-02T20:07:06 < bitmask> gotta love cardboard tables 2018-06-02T20:07:13 < Steffanx> did someone else do #define FALSE FASLE nn77? Just to fix that error? 2018-06-02T20:07:26 < nn77> I'll have to grep for that 2018-06-02T20:08:07 < nn77> nope, just #define FALSE 0 2018-06-02T20:08:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-02T20:11:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-46e1e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T20:17:28 < Laurenceb_> W E W https://www.skyrora.com/team 2018-06-02T20:17:36 < Laurenceb_> >Laura Edison 2018-06-02T20:17:50 < Laurenceb_> pron stars in space 2018-06-02T20:20:16 < Laurenceb_> >Edinburgh and Dnipro 2018-06-02T20:20:30 < Laurenceb_> everything is explained 2018-06-02T20:23:26 < kakimir> where are their engineers 2018-06-02T20:24:07 < Laurenceb_> ywlts prono studio masquerading as a space launch company 2018-06-02T20:24:22 < Laurenceb_> one way to get round the uk pronz laws 2018-06-02T20:25:05 < BrainDamage> Taping giant rockets piercing the heavens 2018-06-02T20:26:10 < Laurenceb_> >radfems were right when they said rockets are penis shaped 2018-06-02T20:26:40 < BrainDamage> Ariane rockets look more like giant space tampons 2018-06-02T20:27:49 < Laurenceb_> aha its a Max Polyakov project 2018-06-02T20:28:12 < Laurenceb_> Ukranian pronz boss 2018-06-02T20:28:57 < Laurenceb_> >UK bans pronz >Pronz studio launches their own satellite internet to broadcast pronz 2018-06-02T20:30:48 < Laurenceb_> https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC569511 https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC569811 2018-06-02T20:30:54 < Laurenceb_> busted 2018-06-02T20:31:53 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T20:35:02 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-02T21:02:53 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800c88100bd9068c4eda41cf6.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T21:02:56 < Drzacek> Hello 2018-06-02T21:14:37 < englishman> Hamilton: he has already stated this 2018-06-02T21:19:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-02T21:26:44 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T21:41:19 < Steffanx> Hows mplab nowadays? 2018-06-02T21:41:25 < Steffanx> I never got the honour to use mplab x 2018-06-02T21:41:45 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-02T22:02:39 < kakimir> Laurenceb, why you use imperial units in your island? 2018-06-02T22:02:44 < Drzacek> Is it normal to fail with CDC device on blue pil? I'm on windows 10 and it doesn't recognize the device, got big exclamation mark in device manager 2018-06-02T22:03:19 < kakimir> miles per hour etc. 2018-06-02T22:13:51 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T22:17:21 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-02T22:29:50 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800c88100bd9068c4eda41cf6.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-02T22:33:36 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T22:34:48 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T22:47:18 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@cpe-104-228-210-218.maine.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T22:47:23 < dale6998> hello 2018-06-02T22:47:53 < dale6998> i'm looking through someones code, and i found this: 2018-06-02T22:47:54 < dale6998> #include "spi.h" 2018-06-02T22:48:02 < dale6998> oh no... 2018-06-02T22:48:03 < dale6998> wait.. 2018-06-02T22:49:14 < dale6998> typedef void (* FUNC_PTR)(void); 2018-06-02T22:49:18 < dale6998> what does this do? 2018-06-02T22:52:14 < qu1j0t3> defines FUNC_PTR as the name of a type, the type being "pointer to function of no arguments, and void return type" 2018-06-02T22:54:19 < qu1j0t3> i.e. it can point to functions defined as: void f(void) { ... } and you can see the structural similarity in the typedef syntax 2018-06-02T22:55:03 < qu1j0t3> *FUNC_PTR is where f is in the function definition, meaning "FUNC_PTR can point to things like f" 2018-06-02T22:55:10 < dale6998> and i can get that verbose syntax compacted by doing FUNC_PTR f 2018-06-02T22:55:24 < qu1j0t3> yes, then f would be a function pointer 2018-06-02T22:55:28 < dale6998> that's the same as void f(void) 2018-06-02T22:55:33 < qu1j0t3> well, no... 2018-06-02T22:55:39 < qu1j0t3> void f(void) { ... } declares a function 2018-06-02T22:55:46 < qu1j0t3> FUNC_PTR f defines a function pointer. 2018-06-02T22:56:06 < qu1j0t3> less ambiguously, if you jhave void f(void){ ... } then you can elsewhere have FUNC_PTR fp = f; 2018-06-02T22:56:17 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-02T22:56:35 < qu1j0t3> where fp would now point to the function f, and you could invoke it as (*fp)(); or fp(); 2018-06-02T22:57:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-02T22:57:45 < qu1j0t3> so, indirection. since at another time, fp could point to any other function with that signature 2018-06-02T22:59:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-02T23:00:47 < dale6998> ah, ok 2018-06-02T23:01:19 < dale6998> so, FUNC_PTR can point to any function, as long as it is a void taking in a void 2018-06-02T23:01:29 < qu1j0t3> yep 2018-06-02T23:01:34 < dale6998> how convenient 2018-06-02T23:01:49 < dale6998> and that whole typdef thing is only to improve readability and save keystrokes? 2018-06-02T23:01:52 < qu1j0t3> well, not "taking in a void" so much as having an empty argument list. 2018-06-02T23:01:58 < dale6998> right, rihgt 2018-06-02T23:02:07 < qu1j0t3> dale6998: Yes. 2018-06-02T23:02:10 < dale6998> thanks! 2018-06-02T23:02:24 < qu1j0t3> np 2018-06-02T23:44:21 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-02T23:52:04 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.67.42] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Jun 03 2018 2018-06-03T00:36:15 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-03T00:39:23 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T00:46:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T00:56:57 < stvn> wb Laurenceb_ 2018-06-03T00:57:45 < Laurenceb_> sup 2018-06-03T00:57:53 < Laurenceb_> I have had to irl shitpost today 2018-06-03T00:57:57 < Laurenceb_> 8chan is down :( 2018-06-03T00:58:02 < stvn> why 2018-06-03T00:58:07 < stvn> why is it kill 2018-06-03T00:59:03 < Laurenceb_> maintenance 2018-06-03T00:59:29 < stvn> cp raid morelikeit 2018-06-03T01:01:32 < stvn> what will you do now 2018-06-03T01:03:01 < stvn> does the 4 chan still work? 2018-06-03T01:03:39 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-03T01:04:03 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T01:05:40 < Laurenceb_> 4chan is perman00b 2018-06-03T01:08:41 < stvn> can you help them mate? 2018-06-03T01:09:37 < Laurenceb_> looks like they are doing fine from the current splash page 2018-06-03T01:12:08 < stvn> hmm 2018-06-03T01:12:25 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-03T01:13:48 < stvn> any epic jimmy wales style 'got 2 bucks mate?' ebegging or? 2018-06-03T01:14:50 -!- _enhering_ [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T01:17:40 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-03T01:18:45 < Laurenceb_> they have to lay new power cables to their thai fuck shack 2018-06-03T01:29:21 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-03T01:34:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-46e1e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T01:44:17 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-03T02:15:29 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:8024:d45c:bc57:bbb2] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-03T03:00:32 < antto> "Mrs. Liliane Bettencourt Foundation donated to you $5,000,000 donation." 2018-06-03T03:00:43 < antto> wooooohooo, IM RICH \o/ 2018-06-03T03:02:11 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T03:05:11 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T03:08:33 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-03T03:09:21 < Cracki> shitpost time already? 2018-06-03T03:09:43 * antto is innocent 2018-06-03T03:09:56 < Cracki> catcher and pitcher https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DetsuH5UEAEHWxQ.jpg:orig *ducks away* 2018-06-03T03:10:35 < antto> hm, dolan is making some interesting symbol with his hands 2018-06-03T03:10:57 < Cracki> Merkelraute 2018-06-03T03:11:16 < Cracki> perhaps the sign of the roastie 2018-06-03T03:22:09 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-03T03:26:07 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27151.80 2018-06-03T03:26:15 < Laurenceb_> ^extreme shitposts 2018-06-03T03:26:23 < Laurenceb_> 6 of them 2018-06-03T03:28:11 < Cracki> somehting that shoots hot metal sparks 2018-06-03T03:28:26 < Cracki> not-quite-ion drive? 2018-06-03T03:28:48 -!- R0b0t1`` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T03:29:18 < Cracki> who gives these people a hangar to fuck around in? 2018-06-03T03:31:23 -!- Kitlith [~Kitlith@theobromine.kitl.pw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-03T03:32:09 < antto> usa? 2018-06-03T03:32:25 < Cracki> area 51 2018-06-03T03:37:17 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-03T03:39:08 -!- Kitlith [~Kitlith@theobromine.kitl.pw] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T03:46:44 < nn77> hey.... 2018-06-03T03:46:55 < nn77> anyone in here want to write some demo code to help me get started? 2018-06-03T03:50:59 -!- qu1j0t3 [~FurnaceBo@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 0.4.3"] 2018-06-03T03:52:23 < stvn> Laurenceb_: you're back 2018-06-03T04:00:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T04:10:20 < Laurenceb_> I'm watching texas chainsaw massacre 2018-06-03T04:10:24 < Laurenceb_> do not disturb 2018-06-03T04:12:36 < Laurenceb_> Cracki: ikr, they have lost their marbles 2018-06-03T04:13:56 < Cracki> I like gas-powered chainsaws. when you pull the cord, imagine it's anal beads. 2018-06-03T04:14:17 < Cracki> (best attempt to combine chainsaws and marbles in one image) 2018-06-03T04:14:43 < Laurenceb_> the most unrealistic thing about this film is that the chainsaws start up 2018-06-03T04:15:41 < Cracki> fetishists maintain their love objects 2018-06-03T04:16:07 < Cracki> wonder how they filmed that. handful of takes per start 2018-06-03T04:17:52 < Laurenceb_> heh 2018-06-03T04:18:07 < nn77> hahahah 2018-06-03T04:18:45 < nn77> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A52p9jc-gOo 2018-06-03T04:22:49 < nn77> actually it starts on first pull a number of times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1Q7xydJPU 2018-06-03T04:23:12 < dongs> https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/the-emdrive-nasas-impossible-space-engine-really-is-impossible-cc1be93f9774 attn laurence/b/ 2018-06-03T04:32:42 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-03T04:32:45 < Laurenceb_> busted 2018-06-03T04:33:12 -!- qu1j0t3 [~FurnaceBo@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T04:33:19 < Laurenceb_> of course nasaspaceflight.com refuse to accept the inevitable 2018-06-03T04:34:43 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/assets/42978.0/1494229.jpg 2018-06-03T04:34:47 < Laurenceb_> a u t i s m 2018-06-03T04:42:27 < Cracki> looks like a guillotine sex furniture 2018-06-03T04:42:38 < Cracki> device bondage dot com and such 2018-06-03T04:49:57 < Cracki> >the magnetic fields produced by the electrical wires feeding the alleged EmDrive. 2018-06-03T04:50:05 < dongs> heh 2018-06-03T04:50:08 < Cracki> I think many people hypothesized this 2018-06-03T04:50:23 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32DB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T04:51:04 -!- qu1j0t3 [~FurnaceBo@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 0.4.3"] 2018-06-03T04:51:06 < Cracki> if you pump kilowatts of power into something, I guess it's the force you expect 2018-06-03T04:51:39 -!- qu1j0t3 [~FurnaceBo@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T04:51:42 < qu1j0t3> Laurenceb_: what's "the inevitable"? 2018-06-03T04:52:03 < Laurenceb_> thats it was all fake 2018-06-03T04:52:20 < qu1j0t3> which? i'm lacking context. I saw the pic. 2018-06-03T04:52:33 < dongs> emdrive troll 2018-06-03T04:52:46 < dongs> < dongs> https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/the-emdrive-nasas-impossible-space-engine-really-is-impossible-cc1be93f9774 attn laurence/b/ 2018-06-03T04:52:49 < dongs> context 2018-06-03T04:53:11 < qu1j0t3> ah. 2018-06-03T04:53:57 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B0812DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-03T05:01:29 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T05:08:01 < stvn> well 2018-06-03T05:08:27 < stvn> glad I didn't bet on it working... 2018-06-03T05:20:41 < stvn> oh well they could be hydrogen perpetual motion believers instead 2018-06-03T05:22:14 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@cpe-104-228-210-218.maine.res.rr.com] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-03T05:59:15 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-03T05:59:15 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] 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"immediate is about to jump to my order" :D 2018-06-03T12:22:52 < antto> que 2018-06-03T12:24:21 < Steffanx> je ne parle pas français 2018-06-03T12:24:43 < antto> i thought "que" is in spanish 2018-06-03T12:29:09 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T12:42:07 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:f45a:7519:5661:e97e] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T12:42:45 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T12:44:25 < Steffanx> Its both, antto 2018-06-03T12:44:52 < antto> well i said it in spanish 2018-06-03T12:44:59 < antto> COULDN'T YOU TELL?!! 2018-06-03T12:48:58 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.67.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-03T12:53:49 < Steffanx> No, i couldnt hear you. Had to keep a distance, antto. 2018-06-03T13:05:55 < antto> okay, i accept your excuse 2018-06-03T13:06:55 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.195.131] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T13:10:08 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.195.131] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-03T13:10:27 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.195.131] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T13:17:53 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T13:32:05 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T13:32:59 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@46.248.58.233] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T13:35:57 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.195.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-03T13:44:31 -!- Swappage_ [~rampage@unaffiliated/swappage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T13:49:41 < kakimir> hello pump 2018-06-03T13:49:49 < Hamilton2> hello kakimir 2018-06-03T13:50:08 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-03T13:50:17 < kakimir> hamilton number 2 2018-06-03T13:50:26 < kakimir> do you get your strings in order? 2018-06-03T13:50:26 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T13:50:39 < kakimir> *did 2018-06-03T13:51:10 < Hamilton2> kakimir, ah that yeah... "long string 1" 2018-06-03T13:51:20 < Hamilton2> "long string 2" did it 2018-06-03T13:51:36 < Hamilton2> with a / after 1" 2018-06-03T13:51:48 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T13:51:49 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/dkwMO1j 2018-06-03T13:51:56 < kakimir> you mean "long string 1 \ 2018-06-03T13:52:01 < kakimir> long string2" 2018-06-03T13:52:06 < Hamilton2> kakimir, yes 2018-06-03T13:52:17 < Hamilton2> Laurenceb_, Does you IRC client render links inline or sth? 2018-06-03T13:52:47 < kakimir> Laurenceb_, what is this? 2018-06-03T13:52:51 < Laurenceb_> no I use chat 2018-06-03T13:53:02 < Laurenceb_> kakimir: a troll edit of ben garrison 2018-06-03T13:53:42 < Hamilton2> kakimir, no actualy "long string 1" \ 2018-06-03T13:53:43 < Hamilton2> "long string 2" 2018-06-03T13:53:53 < Laurenceb_> *XChat 2018-06-03T13:56:43 < kakimir> Hamilton2, how does that work? 2018-06-03T13:57:10 < kakimir> you will effectivelly have "string1""string2" 2018-06-03T13:57:54 < kakimir> btw. you can compile with -E and check the object file for preprocessed code 2018-06-03T13:58:21 < Hamilton2> kakimir, It was #define Long_String "blah bla" 2018-06-03T13:58:22 < Hamilton2> \ "blah blah" actually 2018-06-03T13:58:57 < Hamilton2> Ah damn, \ should be at the end of the first line 2018-06-03T13:59:07 -!- gnom_ [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-03T13:59:25 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T14:00:00 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-03T14:00:16 < kakimir> end of line.. what are you thinking 2018-06-03T14:00:26 < kakimir> like in my example 2018-06-03T14:00:39 < kakimir> always in end of line until last line 2018-06-03T14:00:46 < Hamilton2> kakimir, I know it will be effectively "abc""def" but it is in define 2018-06-03T14:00:59 < Hamilton2> so I guess the preprocessor appends them inside or sth 2018-06-03T14:07:42 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.250.226.62] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T14:09:04 < kakimir> well 2018-06-03T14:09:13 < kakimir> use -E and see what it does 2018-06-03T14:09:26 < kakimir> assuming GCC 2018-06-03T14:11:26 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-03T14:11:43 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T14:18:50 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-4db8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T14:18:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4db8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-03T14:19:00 < Hamilton2> kakimir, .o reports that it was treated as : #define LONG_STRING "ab" "cd" 2018-06-03T14:19:40 < kakimir> now 2018-06-03T14:20:06 < kakimir> do #define LONG_STRING "ab\ 2018-06-03T14:20:15 < kakimir> cd" 2018-06-03T14:21:47 < Hamilton2> kakimir, Treated \ as tab 2018-06-03T14:21:47 < Hamilton2> #define LONG_STRING "ab cd" 2018-06-03T14:23:41 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/fHKVAaa 2018-06-03T14:24:17 < kakimir> Hamilton2, is tab ignored in strings? 2018-06-03T14:24:49 < Hamilton2> Aghhh I sometimes sympathize with dongs to hate open source...I'm using a plugin for ehem "dark theme" for Eclipse and not a SINGLE time it worked to the specs...I guess there is something badly wrong with Oomph/Eclipse or the plugin itself 2018-06-03T14:24:50 < kakimir> do you have identation to second line? 2018-06-03T14:25:43 < Hamilton2> kakimir, You are right. Eclipse editor auto-indented on CR 2018-06-03T14:25:47 < Hamilton2> Now it is #define LONG_STRING "abcd" 2018-06-03T14:26:08 < kakimir> there you go 2018-06-03T14:26:25 < Hamilton2> kakimir, Thanks, but I guess the former solution was more readable 2018-06-03T14:26:34 < kakimir> did it work? 2018-06-03T14:26:37 < Hamilton2> yes 2018-06-03T14:26:54 < Steffanx> Hamilton2 .. does keil even have a dark theme? 2018-06-03T14:27:03 < Steffanx> What. Does keil even have themes at all? 2018-06-03T14:27:13 < Hamilton2> Steffanx, There is a hack for editor but generally no 2018-06-03T14:27:27 < Hamilton2> You could change colors in some settings window 2018-06-03T14:28:14 < Hamilton2> Steffanx, You know what, between us, at least it always worked...It was bad yes, but it was consistently bad 2018-06-03T14:29:26 < Hamilton2> There is a "enhanced search" that comes with this devStyle dark theme eclipse plugin...I checked it today and it did not work! I waited for like 5 seconds, then it worked and replaced eclipse's search...I can not even reproduce this behaviour to file a bug report 2018-06-03T14:43:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T14:45:36 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T14:53:12 < kakimir> I have tried dark theme to eclipse 2018-06-03T14:53:32 < kakimir> it's workings is kind of glitchy and some stuff turns invisible 2018-06-03T14:54:31 < Hamilton2> kakimir, DevStyle's dark theme? Or Eclipse's built-in? 2018-06-03T14:55:01 < Hamilton2> kakimir, Yeah, assembly opcodes, compiler selection in new project and who knows what other things, turn invisible 2018-06-03T14:55:24 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-03T14:55:32 < kakimir> iirc. devstyle 2018-06-03T14:55:38 < kakimir> I don't have it installed atm. 2018-06-03T14:55:48 < kakimir> I think there was another installable dark theme too 2018-06-03T14:56:33 < Hamilton2> I'm currently setting up cmder+msys2+pacman to have vim/gcc/gdb/make as an ultimate alternative but that solution has a steeep learning curve 2018-06-03T15:10:30 < Steffanx> i'd rather use bash on windows for lunix whatever it's called 2018-06-03T15:10:50 < Steffanx> sudo apt install vim gcc gdb done 2018-06-03T15:12:36 < antto> o_O 2018-06-03T15:13:02 < Steffanx> what mr antto? 2018-06-03T15:14:24 < antto> is Hamilton2 still wrestling with his IDE for those long strings? 2018-06-03T15:15:06 < Hamilton2> antto, nah man :) 2018-06-03T15:16:16 < Hamilton2> Steffanx, B...bu...but slashdotters say win10 is a spyware 2018-06-03T15:16:53 < antto> nah, just its kernel 2018-06-03T15:16:58 < antto> >:) 2018-06-03T15:17:15 < antto> Notepad.exe doesn't track you 2018-06-03T15:17:16 < Steffanx> slashdot is still relevant? 2018-06-03T15:17:54 < Hamilton2> Steffanx, Did you take the time to black list all Cortana-shit IPs in your router? 2018-06-03T15:18:57 < Hamilton2> Win 10 has the temerity to ask users "hey average joe! We're gonna send ALL YOUR KEYSTROKES back home for analysis. You happy bout dis homie?" 2018-06-03T15:18:57 < BrainDamage> notepad.exe is getting lunix line ending support, you need to disable updates 2018-06-03T15:19:19 < Steffanx> oh noes. 2018-06-03T15:19:24 < Hamilton2> And average lucy says, yeah, why not 2018-06-03T15:20:22 < antto> not just yer keystrokes.. everything 2018-06-03T15:20:25 < Hamilton2> BrainDamage, One thing M$ actually got right: CR+LF 2018-06-03T15:20:42 < antto> they suck out your soul thru yer nose 2018-06-03T15:21:05 < Hamilton2> antto, I mean, they specifically said so...They could have hidden it deep in some privacy shit 2018-06-03T15:21:30 < antto> it won't look innocent if it was too hidden, and they know it 2018-06-03T15:21:35 < antto> they want it to look innocent 2018-06-03T15:27:51 < Steffanx> I have no secrets. 2018-06-03T15:29:55 < antto> now do i know it's really you and not a M$ AI bot pretending to be you? 2018-06-03T15:30:40 < antto> --trust; 2018-06-03T15:30:46 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: then you'll have no problems giving me your credit card numbers 2018-06-03T15:31:12 < Steffanx> i know right 2018-06-03T15:31:21 < antto> don't forget those on the back side 2018-06-03T15:32:39 < antto> Hamilton2 the "default" option during the win10 installation are soo wonderful, you have to click some places to actually see them 2018-06-03T15:33:04 < antto> but basically, win10 sends every kind of data about you to teh mothership 2018-06-03T15:35:08 < Hamilton2> antto, About 4 years ago, I dual-booted my laptop to win+ubuntu (12 sth)...It had incompatible drivers and caused my fan to crazy speed...I tried to install BionicBeaver recently...The same problem persists with fan and Bluetooth driver...So between 12->16, the same problem persists 2018-06-03T15:35:16 < Hamilton2> That's why people say Lunix 2018-06-03T15:35:34 < dongs> lol why the fuck would anyone cripple a laptop wiht lunix 2018-06-03T15:35:50 < Steffanx> You triggered dongs, Hamilton2. 2018-06-03T15:35:50 < antto> ubuntu has adware 2018-06-03T15:35:55 < Hamilton2> oh hey dongs...Did you fix the problem with uart? 2018-06-03T15:35:55 < dongs> who cares 2018-06-03T15:35:58 < dongs> lunix is just shit 2018-06-03T15:36:01 < dongs> Hamilton2: nope 2018-06-03T15:36:02 < Hamilton2> Steffanx, I know right :D 2018-06-03T15:36:02 < antto> and sends data to its mothership too 2018-06-03T15:37:09 < antto> ISR(DONGS_vect) { hate(); } 2018-06-03T15:37:48 < Steffanx> You seem to be a bit hostile too, sometimes antto. Did you get infected? 2018-06-03T15:37:58 < antto> by what? 2018-06-03T15:38:06 < Steffanx> hate(); 2018-06-03T15:38:31 < antto> i think you didn't understand what my pseudo-code means 2018-06-03T15:38:44 < Steffanx> ok 2018-06-03T15:39:07 < dongs> https://superuser.com/questions/1327388/chrome-title-bar-color fuck google again 2018-06-03T15:39:16 < Hamilton2> dongs, I was skimming ESP's guide and it suggested that the toolchain could only be built on linux...Then I found out that MSYS2 could also be used 2018-06-03T15:39:22 < Hamilton2> inb4 ESP hate 2018-06-03T15:39:48 < dongs> ESP isn't even on the hate radar. its such shit that its completely irrelevant 2018-06-03T15:39:55 < Hamilton2> lolz 2018-06-03T15:40:08 < dongs> entire thing is made of stolen IP 2018-06-03T15:40:12 < dongs> chinky++ 2018-06-03T15:40:41 * antto agrees about both google and espressif 2018-06-03T15:40:43 < Hamilton2> dongs, How do you know? I regularly visit Hackaday, Slashdot and elsewhere...I've never heard such thing 2018-06-03T15:40:51 < dongs> wat 2018-06-03T15:40:59 < Steffanx> wait until he starts about AVR, antto :D 2018-06-03T15:41:10 < Steffanx> *atmel/microchip 2018-06-03T15:41:17 < Hamilton2> If they wanted to use stolen IP, why did they went with Xtensa? They could have faked Arm 2018-06-03T15:41:24 < antto> espressif is binary blobs of modified gnu code 2018-06-03T15:41:56 < antto> they have a very shady bootloader too 2018-06-03T15:42:54 < kakimir> howe is 2sided layouts done? 2018-06-03T15:43:05 < antto> hm? 2018-06-03T15:43:20 < kakimir> how is that pnp done 2018-06-03T15:43:28 < antto> with glue 2018-06-03T15:43:41 < antto> or they bake one side, then pnp the other, bake again 2018-06-03T15:43:56 < kakimir> okay 2018-06-03T15:44:18 * antto is no expert 2018-06-03T15:45:07 < antto> i think you should ask yer assembly fab 2018-06-03T15:45:37 < dongs> there's also a chinky way that uses only one stencil 2018-06-03T15:45:45 < kakimir> = 2018-06-03T15:45:47 < kakimir> ? 2018-06-03T15:45:56 < dongs> PCB is arrayed so that 2 are side by side, top side ,and bottom side 2018-06-03T15:46:02 < antto> some larger/heavier components that fall off can be glued 2018-06-03T15:46:13 < dongs> you stencil it once, then place 2018-06-03T15:46:21 < dongs> then flip the pcb arounbd, stencil using same stencil, and place again 2018-06-03T15:46:41 < kakimir> do only larger parts need to be glued 2018-06-03T15:47:10 < dongs> i always do dual side assembly separately 2018-06-03T15:47:16 < Steffanx> Why these questions kakimir? Do you want to do it at work? 2018-06-03T15:47:17 < dongs> place / oven top, place/oven bottom 2018-06-03T15:47:18 < dongs> (or wahtever 2018-06-03T15:47:18 < antto> i don't know, but if anything has to be glued - you might be asked for the Adhesive layer gerber 2018-06-03T15:47:27 < Steffanx> Isnt it MUCH easier to ask your local fab what they can do? 2018-06-03T15:47:46 < kakimir> Steffanx, I just wonder how chinapal will pull this one off 2018-06-03T15:47:49 < antto> Steffanx i also had these questions a year ago 2018-06-03T15:47:54 < antto> curiousity 2018-06-03T15:48:28 < Steffanx> Yes, then irc ee pros is the way to go ;) 2018-06-03T15:48:44 < antto> the pros have spoken 2018-06-03T15:48:54 < antto> kakimir now knows the answers too 2018-06-03T15:48:57 < antto> kakimir => pro 2018-06-03T15:49:05 < kakimir> is there mechanical ways to hold stuff in place? 2018-06-03T15:49:15 < antto> besides glue? 2018-06-03T15:49:19 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-03T15:49:23 < antto> i doubt 2018-06-03T15:49:25 < antto> ;P~ 2018-06-03T15:49:36 < kakimir> I have ie. dual sided power so8 2018-06-03T15:50:08 < antto> kakimir you might have noticed some footprints in kicad have stuff on the adhessive layer (like smd electrolytic caps, some smd inductors..) 2018-06-03T15:50:09 < kakimir> it has quite an area of soldering though 2018-06-03T15:50:56 < antto> afaik they use that layer similarly to the paste layer, they apply glue with a stencil 2018-06-03T15:51:22 < antto> but then i think the paste stencil must include the holes of this adhessive layer too 2018-06-03T15:54:08 < kakimir> but there are components that really do not have area to be glued 2018-06-03T15:54:13 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/TyOesLA 2018-06-03T15:54:24 < antto> kakimir which ones? 2018-06-03T15:54:48 < kakimir> power so8 variants 2018-06-03T15:54:52 < antto> kakimir also, you should probably have those "heavy" smd components only on one side, and that side will be baked first 2018-06-03T15:54:59 < antto> so glue might not be needed at all then 2018-06-03T15:55:18 < antto> kakimir does that require glue? 2018-06-03T15:55:57 < kakimir> it hase quite big solder area 2018-06-03T15:55:58 < antto> glue is required only when the component would fall when upside down with its solder molten 2018-06-03T15:56:06 < antto> the light components will not fall 2018-06-03T15:57:23 < dongs> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=505013#c55 fix for chrome67 2018-06-03T15:58:51 < kakimir> antto, well powerso8 variants are not light 2018-06-03T15:59:26 < dongs> ive had SMD USB-A stuff fall off 2018-06-03T15:59:36 < dongs> its defintely a shitty situation 2018-06-03T15:59:51 < dongs> sometimes order of reflow depends on which componetns are placed 2018-06-03T16:00:31 < Laurenceb_> just hand solder the heavy stuff 2018-06-03T16:00:46 < dongs> yeah fuck off im gonna do taht for 1k boards 2018-06-03T16:00:48 < antto> no idea then 2018-06-03T16:00:55 < Laurenceb_> wew spacex starlink is going to use 60GHz 2018-06-03T16:01:09 < Laurenceb_> no wonder they cant make the terminal for <$100 2018-06-03T16:02:21 < Laurenceb_> maybe I should apply for a jerb, it sounds fun 2018-06-03T16:04:13 < dongs> they're looking for actuall innovators 2018-06-03T16:04:15 < dongs> not kek-trolls 2018-06-03T16:05:36 < Laurenceb_> use the power to meme magic to lower the cost 2018-06-03T16:06:24 < antto> 2018-06-03T16:06:55 < Laurenceb_> >ultra low cost terminal 2018-06-03T16:07:10 < Laurenceb_> >its a sphere with dish inside steered by two chinese servos 2018-06-03T16:11:10 < Laurenceb_> maybe an electromechanical copper foil waveguide phased array would work 2018-06-03T16:13:38 < Laurenceb_> the frequency is so high 2mm waveguides would work 2018-06-03T16:17:26 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/UBUffjZ 2018-06-03T16:19:46 < Hamilton2> Laurenceb_, Those were breakfast streamer guys? 2018-06-03T16:20:02 < Hamilton2> big hot breakfast or sth 2018-06-03T16:21:48 < Laurenceb_> big soy breakfast 2018-06-03T16:37:53 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@46.248.58.233] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-03T16:46:36 < Laurenceb_> oh sheeet 2018-06-03T16:46:37 < Laurenceb_> http://go.galegroup.com/ps/anonymous?id=GALE|A349112483&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=abs&issn=07438346&p=AONE&sw=w 2018-06-03T16:46:56 < Laurenceb_> babby shakker BTFO 2018-06-03T17:00:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.250.226.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T17:00:07 < Laurenceb_> status: emailing to the babby shake squad for epin irl trollage 2018-06-03T17:03:02 < Laurenceb_> science: trollin u with FACTS 2018-06-03T17:04:37 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPmkSUE5Naw when u self troll with science 2018-06-03T17:05:00 < Laurenceb_> wtf thats not the actual video reee utube ecelebs 2018-06-03T17:12:17 < Steffanx> Uhm, you have to write down whats in your brain a bit more Laurenceb_. You expect me to read that entire research? 2018-06-03T17:12:32 < Steffanx> It seems to contradict yours. But who is right? 2018-06-03T17:13:40 < Laurenceb_> >yours 2018-06-03T17:13:52 < Laurenceb_> >implying I actually believe any of this shit 2018-06-03T17:13:57 < Laurenceb_> of course they are right 2018-06-03T17:16:13 < Steffanx> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5315199/ too lazy the read the conclusion. 2018-06-03T17:16:44 < Laurenceb_> >there is no effect from transport 2018-06-03T17:17:14 < Steffanx> ah, so no contradictions. I somehow remember you did say something about that 2018-06-03T17:18:37 < Steffanx> I guess my mind got scrambled by all the crap you posted in between 2018-06-03T17:18:51 < Laurenceb_> the whole reason for my current jerb is that there supposedly is a health hazard from transporting babbies 2018-06-03T17:20:05 < Steffanx> Yay. 2018-06-03T17:20:20 < Laurenceb_> tiem to get a jerb on starlink 2018-06-03T17:20:59 < Steffanx> Your language surely isn't improved since you go that job. Time for a new (real) job sir. 2018-06-03T17:21:11 < Steffanx> *hasnt ? 2018-06-03T17:22:09 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T17:26:49 < bitmask> https://youtu.be/P-RqdgkCM5M 2018-06-03T17:30:44 < Steffanx> Expected some fancy drawing. 2018-06-03T17:41:03 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/tTsbY0Q 2018-06-03T17:41:48 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-03T17:44:11 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T17:52:17 < bitmask> no drawing until I fix my SPI communication :( 2018-06-03T17:52:44 < bitmask> I switched from HAL to stdperiph and spi wasnt working so I switched to working on the website 2018-06-03T17:52:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T17:52:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-03T17:52:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T17:53:53 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T17:55:24 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T18:00:11 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-03T18:12:16 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/QpgoUZu 2018-06-03T18:12:21 < Laurenceb_> the birth of a legend 2018-06-03T18:18:23 < Laurenceb_> >muh IQ is 1555 2018-06-03T18:18:29 < Laurenceb_> irl lolling 2018-06-03T18:26:19 < Laurenceb_> how could anyone not want him to get cancer and die after reading that 2018-06-03T18:27:04 < Steffanx> > "after reading that" 2018-06-03T18:27:16 < Steffanx> ( i tried to talk in your 4chan style, maybe that helps) 2018-06-03T18:30:27 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T18:30:27 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-03T18:30:27 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T18:41:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T19:32:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-03T19:35:33 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::1:1f52] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T19:53:16 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/oIY83Y0 2018-06-03T19:53:17 < Laurenceb_> wtf 2018-06-03T19:54:34 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/eU8s4bB 2018-06-03T19:58:05 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-03T20:06:41 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-03T20:08:31 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T20:09:51 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-03T20:13:47 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800c28800752ae10641ed0438.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T20:13:53 < Drzacek> Hello there 2018-06-03T20:14:05 < jadew> ffs, people have been complaining about this for years.. there's no way to order accounts in thunderbird 2018-06-03T20:15:02 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T20:15:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T20:15:56 < Hamilton> jadew, I know right 2018-06-03T20:17:58 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T20:21:36 < Drzacek> we can order accounts in thunderbird? How? What kind? 2018-06-03T20:22:05 < jadew> you can't... that's what I was saying 2018-06-03T20:22:29 < jadew> I have 23 mail accounts and they're all shuffled, based on when I added them 2018-06-03T20:23:17 < Steffanx> I actually never noticed, only have 3 accoutns in there, but now it annoys me jadew 2018-06-03T20:23:30 < jadew> Steffanx, heh 2018-06-03T20:23:33 < jadew> sorry 2018-06-03T20:23:46 < Steffanx> I actually dont hate Outlook that much. As it tends to work for me. 2018-06-03T20:24:07 < jadew> haven't used outlook in a very long time 2018-06-03T20:24:54 < Drzacek> never really thought about this, but now that you mention it, I want to rearange them now 2018-06-03T20:25:34 < Drzacek> there seems to be addon for that 2018-06-03T20:25:54 < jadew> yeah, but I don't like installing addons 2018-06-03T20:26:03 < Drzacek> no one likes 2018-06-03T20:26:19 < jadew> I'll have to read the source 2018-06-03T20:26:28 < Drzacek> a manly way to do it would be git clone and implement the function itself, then ask to merge it upstream 2018-06-03T20:26:49 < Drzacek> anyways 2018-06-03T20:26:55 < Streaker> and then wait for someone to revert it 2018-06-03T20:27:00 < jadew> heh 2018-06-03T20:27:44 < Drzacek> cubemx generated code for USB Virtual COM port - it looks like the "read" callback function doesn't work as it should. It gets called when I send something, but the buffer is empty 2018-06-03T20:29:08 < Hamilton> jadew, At least there is a nice dark theme for thunderbirdie: https://github.com/spymastermatt/thunderbird-monterail 2018-06-03T20:29:12 < Drzacek> am I doing something wrong, the code is indeed borked, or what? 2018-06-03T20:29:22 < Hamilton> I can vouch for it kinda 2018-06-03T20:29:45 < jadew> Hamilton, looks good, but I'm not into dark themes 2018-06-03T20:29:57 < jadew> my code editor is as bright as the sun 2018-06-03T20:31:16 < Steffanx> In Windows OS the chrome folder must be extracted in C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\[random letters and numbers].default/ 2018-06-03T20:31:21 < Steffanx> what kind of way to install a theme is that ?! 2018-06-03T20:31:38 < Steffanx> I knew thunderbird was bad, but not this bad 2018-06-03T20:31:39 < jadew> the opensource way 2018-06-03T20:31:54 < Steffanx> imho Thunderbird is like the old firefox. CRAP. 2018-06-03T20:32:21 < jadew> I dabbled through its code at one point and I can confirm that 2018-06-03T20:33:55 < Hamilton> Steffanx, It is based on some chromium thingy...that's why 2018-06-03T20:34:05 < Steffanx> it is? 2018-06-03T20:34:16 < jadew> the reason I went through it was to figure out why messages from my email server had problems in the subject field 2018-06-03T20:34:20 < Steffanx> oh the theme you mean 2018-06-03T20:34:35 < Hamilton> Folks over at /r/firefox even have a solution for complete dark theme for FF and even that involves messing with these kinda shit 2018-06-03T20:34:58 < jadew> thunderbird wasn't supporting UTF characters properly (the encoding used in subject fields) 2018-06-03T20:35:09 < jadew> and that wasn't in its early days 2018-06-03T20:35:19 < jadew> it was already a mature project 2018-06-03T20:35:28 < jadew> when I looked through it... it was awful 2018-06-03T20:35:47 < jadew> it was so awful they didn't even bother fixing the bug, they just rewrote everything 2018-06-03T20:36:17 < Hamilton> jadew, How could people look at source code of some huge software like FF...I mean there are plethora of modules and classes 2018-06-03T20:36:39 < jadew> Hamilton, I looked at what was of interrest to me 2018-06-03T20:36:52 < jadew> at that point I was working on a huge project, so I was ready to dive as deep as I had to 2018-06-03T20:37:27 < Hamilton> https://hackaday.com/2018/06/02/bringing-back-a-spectrums-rails/ 2018-06-03T20:37:29 < jadew> discovered several bugs in some other large online services durring that project 2018-06-03T20:44:09 < Steffanx> Wut this website is weird. The items cart is per tab... 2018-06-03T20:44:14 < Steffanx> *shopping cart 2018-06-03T20:44:27 < jadew> what website? 2018-06-03T20:44:44 < jadew> I have some work to do on my cart too 2018-06-03T20:45:00 < Steffanx> oh some "spring" website. http://www.industrial-springs.com/ 2018-06-03T20:46:10 < jadew> my cart is better 2018-06-03T20:46:26 < Steffanx> im sure it is, this one is terrible 2018-06-03T21:13:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T21:57:31 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-03T22:02:15 -!- qu1j0t3 [~FurnaceBo@kvm5.telegraphics.com.au] has left ##stm32 ["WeeChat 0.4.3"] 2018-06-03T22:17:08 < kakimir> Steffanx, Red Sparrow was a ok 2018-06-03T22:17:24 < englishman> did it get you laid 2018-06-03T22:18:17 < kakimir> y 2018-06-03T22:18:46 < kakimir> and much more 2018-06-03T22:19:17 < englishman> cool 2018-06-03T22:19:22 < englishman> i heard it has that effect 2018-06-03T22:20:30 < kakimir> actually not 2018-06-03T22:22:19 < Steffanx> lolwut englishman 2018-06-03T22:23:31 < Steffanx> Watched Thomb Raider instead, kakimir. 2018-06-03T22:23:36 < Steffanx> Kinda disappointing. 2018-06-03T22:23:43 < kakimir> that is given 2018-06-03T22:26:12 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T22:26:16 < kakimir> The Mummy wasn't that bad 2018-06-03T22:26:31 < kakimir> Tom Cruise 2018-06-03T22:27:03 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.67.42] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T22:31:07 < emeb> meh 2018-06-03T22:31:27 < emeb> brendan fraser / arnold vosloo mummy was better 2018-06-03T22:32:13 < kakimir> I said it wasn't that bad 2018-06-03T22:33:51 * karlp hi5s emeb 2018-06-03T22:35:35 < zyp> can whoever left their too fucking hot weather in north europe please come pick it up? I'm starting to get tired of it 2018-06-03T22:36:16 * karlp is curious how jadew has 23 _accounts_ 2018-06-03T22:36:24 < zyp> I mean, it's nice outside, but this is bullshit: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/Nk7fD.png 2018-06-03T22:36:36 < karlp> identies maybe, but separate _accounts_¿? 2018-06-03T22:39:20 < karlp> yeah, the little icelanders arent super impressed with 31C insouthern europe eirher 2018-06-03T22:39:35 < Steffanx> Time for an air conditioner zyp. 2018-06-03T22:39:44 < karlp> i saw another norge friend with 36 or something too :) 2018-06-03T22:39:51 < Steffanx> !wz groningen 2018-06-03T22:39:53 < englishbot> [Groningen, Netherlands] Overcast. Temp is 17.3°C. Humidity: 91%. 2018-06-03T22:39:56 < Steffanx> im glad it's not THAT bad here 2018-06-03T22:40:01 < zyp> !wz grimstad 2018-06-03T22:40:02 < englishbot> [Grimstad, Norway] Clear. Temp is 28°C. WNW wind: 15 kph. 2018-06-03T22:40:09 < kakimir> what 2018-06-03T22:40:20 < Steffanx> What happened in the office yesterday/today, zyp? 2018-06-03T22:40:21 < kakimir> is that in the north or south? 2018-06-03T22:40:29 < Steffanx> Doors opene at night? 2018-06-03T22:40:29 < zyp> I left the window open overnight 2018-06-03T22:40:32 < Steffanx> ah 2018-06-03T22:40:34 < zyp> sensor is close to the window 2018-06-03T22:40:36 < Steffanx> *ha 2018-06-03T22:40:52 < karlp> !wz perugia 2018-06-03T22:40:53 < englishbot> [Perugia, Italy] Clear. Temp is 23.1°C. West wind: 8.0 kph. Humidity: 59%. 2018-06-03T22:41:02 < zyp> kakimir, south coast 2018-06-03T22:41:09 < kakimir> !wz EFOU 2018-06-03T22:41:10 < englishbot> [EFOU, Finland] Overcast. Temp is 11°C. WNW wind: 18 kph. Humidity: 62%. 2018-06-03T22:41:19 < kakimir> summer is over in finland 2018-06-03T22:41:23 < Steffanx> 11 is just terrible. 2018-06-03T22:41:34 < Steffanx> !wz emeb 2018-06-03T22:41:35 < englishbot> Unable to locate query. 2018-06-03T22:41:36 < kakimir> it was shiny for a month straight 2018-06-03T22:41:49 < kakimir> !wz kaki 2018-06-03T22:41:50 < englishbot> [Kaki Barama, Niger] Clear. Temp is 39°C. 2018-06-03T22:41:53 < Steffanx> So what are you doing inside zyp? :P 2018-06-03T22:42:01 < Steffanx> *inside, zyp 2018-06-03T22:42:07 < zyp> complaining about the temperature :p 2018-06-03T22:42:48 < karlp> :) 2018-06-03T22:43:12 < Steffanx> I see. 2018-06-03T22:44:01 < zyp> and yeah, aircon is pretty tempting now 2018-06-03T22:44:25 < karlp> BrainDamage: it seems like way less people smoke thanlaat ime i was in italy, has it cut back a lot in the last few years? 2018-06-03T22:44:46 < karlp> or is this a napoli area vs more northern area thing? 2018-06-03T22:45:39 < zyp> but I'm not very inclined to spend money on some shitty mobile aircon unit that I'll only get a few weeks of use out of in total 2018-06-03T22:45:58 < zyp> (or spend even more money on a less shitty unit that I still only get a few weeks of use out of) 2018-06-03T22:47:12 < zyp> new house will have proper aircon, so anything I'd buy now would only be useful for as long as this years summer lasts 2018-06-03T22:48:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-03T22:48:22 < Steffanx> You know what the best thing of it is? Usually regret comes afterwards. 2018-06-03T22:48:37 < zyp> what regret? 2018-06-03T22:48:55 < Steffanx> Regretting not getting an airconditioner because the summer is/was so hot 2018-06-03T22:49:02 < zyp> haha 2018-06-03T22:49:06 < emeb> Steffanx: emeb is nowhere 2018-06-03T22:49:18 < zyp> Steffanx, that probably goes both ways 2018-06-03T22:49:44 < zyp> I bet if I went and bought a unit tomorrow, tuesday would be 15C 2018-06-03T22:49:49 < Steffanx> Nah, i would like one, but i already forgot how hot it was last week. 2018-06-03T22:50:42 < Steffanx> What kind of fancy sensors do you use btw? 2018-06-03T22:51:00 < zyp> the cheap xiaomi ones 2018-06-03T22:51:18 < Steffanx> zwave? 2018-06-03T22:51:42 < Steffanx> hmm wifi? 2018-06-03T22:51:43 < zyp> no, they have their own gateway thing for it, but everyting is super cheap 2018-06-03T22:51:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T22:52:03 < zyp> you can get the gateway and several sensors for what a single zwave sensor costs :p 2018-06-03T22:52:05 * emeb has had A/C running for several months already 2018-06-03T22:52:18 < emeb> !wz mesa, arizona 2018-06-03T22:52:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-03T22:52:20 < englishbot> [Mesa, Arizona] Clear. Temp is 44.9°C but feels like 41°C. WNW wind: 6.0 kph. 2018-06-03T22:52:23 < Steffanx> lolz 2018-06-03T22:52:34 < Steffanx> emeb beats us all, as usual. 2018-06-03T22:52:52 < emeb> gotta be #1 at something. 2018-06-03T22:53:27 < karlp> zwave is surviving on vendor lock in 2018-06-03T22:53:59 < zyp> Steffanx, I got a custom python script to throw the data on mqtt, and then I'm using telegraf to collect it in influxdb and grafana to visualize 2018-06-03T22:56:06 < zyp> I've got a bit mixed opinion on zwave 2018-06-03T22:56:50 < Steffanx> What does the mi gateway talk? 2018-06-03T22:56:56 < zyp> the whole classes and everything is nice, autodetecting capabilities of other devices, not so unlike what USB does 2018-06-03T22:57:38 < zyp> not everybody are good at implementing a standard class in a sane way though, also like USB :p 2018-06-03T22:58:14 < zyp> and I'm not very impressed about the closed protocol, so you need some sigma chip to make stuff 2018-06-03T22:58:24 < zyp> which drives up the price of stuff built on it 2018-06-03T22:58:41 < zyp> Steffanx, maybe zigbee, idk 2018-06-03T22:59:06 < Steffanx> i meant on the user side. I assume your python talks to the gateway? 2018-06-03T22:59:13 < zyp> ah, udp multicast 2018-06-03T22:59:14 < Steffanx> on the sensor side it seems to be zigbee 2018-06-03T23:00:34 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/mXilR 2018-06-03T23:00:51 < BrainDamage> karlp: people at the north smoke more, but there's been an overall downards trend 2018-06-03T23:01:37 < Steffanx> hmm, it seems the mi gateway likes to talk to remote servers. Always nice 2018-06-03T23:02:14 < zyp> well, I don't give a fuck if china knows the temperatures in my rooms :p 2018-06-03T23:02:56 < zyp> I don't have any sort of outputs (except the rgb light on the gateway itself), only sensors 2018-06-03T23:04:08 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800c28800752ae10641ed0438.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-03T23:04:10 < zyp> zwave is fine for that 2018-06-03T23:04:51 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-03T23:05:59 < zyp> in the new house, I'm planning to have xiaomi sensors, zwave thermostats and probably ikea trådfri for most lights 2018-06-03T23:06:02 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::1:1f52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-03T23:06:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T23:06:49 < Steffanx> Time for ikea to make some sensors. 2018-06-03T23:07:12 < zyp> that could work too 2018-06-03T23:07:28 < zyp> but idk, stuff's easy to integrate 2018-06-03T23:07:43 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-03T23:08:15 < zyp> I don't see any point of locking myself to one system, easier to just buy whatever is suitable for the purpose and hook everything together via mqtt 2018-06-03T23:08:25 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.67.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-03T23:08:29 < Steffanx> Yeah, but its just sad that its both zigbee, but incompatible. 2018-06-03T23:09:41 < zyp> the advantage of zwave is that they have stuff approved for fixed installation 2018-06-03T23:11:16 < zyp> currently I got some zwave relays and a dimmer for lights 2018-06-03T23:11:41 < zyp> but to be honest, smart bulbs is cheaper and more convenient assuming you have fixtures that supports it 2018-06-03T23:12:48 < zyp> this place has either ccfl tubes or 12V spots, for new house I'm gonna specify that I want none of that shit 2018-06-03T23:13:37 < Steffanx> No spots here, just GU10 and/or E27 :) 2018-06-03T23:13:46 < Steffanx> ccfl tubes -_- 2018-06-03T23:13:52 < stvn> E27 maaaaaaaaate 2018-06-03T23:14:14 < Steffanx> Good morning stvn. Hows the dark skinned guy today? 2018-06-03T23:14:36 < zyp> Steffanx, yeah, this place were built when that were cool :p 2018-06-03T23:15:41 < zyp> http://www.aeo.no/sites/default/files/produkt/images/350057.jpg <- probably this shit, haven't looked inside 2018-06-03T23:15:47 < Steffanx> D: 2018-06-03T23:18:03 < stvn> Hi steffan 2018-06-03T23:18:09 < zyp> probably going to do ikea «skeninge» in the living room 2018-06-03T23:18:52 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3Si8De11/oh_hi.JPG 2018-06-03T23:19:16 < stvn> The dark skinned guy 2018-06-03T23:20:45 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@85-23-75-254.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-03T23:26:55 < englishbot> [Glendale, Arizona] Clear. Temp is 42.3°C but feels like 38°C. SSW wind: 3.2 kph. 2018-06-03T23:27:55 < Steffanx> He really looks like someone, but im still not sure who, stvn 2018-06-03T23:31:38 < Steffanx> oh, cool zyp. At least they have spots other than GX53 stuff 2018-06-03T23:31:52 < zyp> yeah, I have two of the GU10 ones 2018-06-03T23:33:46 < nn77> I'm looking for recommendations on what I should read if my only experience with micros is the ATMega and Atmel Studio and I want to get started with the stm32 stuff. 2018-06-03T23:34:28 < zyp> Steffanx, https://bin.jvnv.net/file/K5mPV.jpg 2018-06-03T23:34:45 < zyp> those are all trådfri, rail itself has fixed power 2018-06-03T23:41:34 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-03T23:44:34 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-03T23:55:24 < Steffanx> :) 2018-06-03T23:55:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-03T23:57:26 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] --- Day changed Mon Jun 04 2018 2018-06-04T00:02:36 < stvn> Idk what they’re called in straya but I seen some 2018-06-04T00:04:11 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-4db8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-04T00:08:17 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:f45a:7519:5661:e97e] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-04T00:11:58 < englishman> nn77, there are not a lot of guided tutorials out there, though I know you've asked several times now. the few that are out there are probably outdated by now, and focus on using free tools. your best bet is to download free keil, get stm32cube, and read stm32 documentation and example projects 2018-06-04T00:14:10 < englishman> zyp, only 400km this week, but got 6.8 km/kWh or 14.7 kWh/100km, was pretty warm out too, higher tire pressures and getting used to regen has helped i guess 2018-06-04T00:15:30 < englishman> https://youtu.be/qVJpy6n05ss?t=42s 2018-06-04T00:15:32 < zyp> sounds good 2018-06-04T00:15:33 < englishman> wow that is a big pack 2018-06-04T00:16:05 < englishman> is it watercooled? 2018-06-04T00:16:20 < zyp> usually my range gets longer and longer in spring, now I've noticed it starting to drop a bit again due to increased consumption for aircon :p 2018-06-04T00:17:28 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydc-qt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T00:17:29 < englishman> the nav screen gives an estimated range increase that would be seen by turning off AC, and it's always 3-4km only 2018-06-04T00:17:51 < englishman> the compressor is driven by a 3phase induction motor powered off the HV battery 2018-06-04T00:18:03 < zyp> huh, I didn't know the pack was shaped like that, I thought it was just the rear rectangular part 2018-06-04T00:18:05 < englishman> also learned that it is a heatpump, so winter heating could be pretty efficient 2018-06-04T00:18:11 < zyp> yes 2018-06-04T00:18:34 < zyp> that was an option on mine 2018-06-04T00:18:50 < englishman> https://www.autoblog.com/2014/03/31/vw-e-golf-will-not-have-active-cooling-system-lithium-battery/ 2018-06-04T00:18:54 < englishman> interesting 2018-06-04T00:19:06 < zyp> and yes, egolf battery doesn't have active temperature regulation at all 2018-06-04T00:19:15 < zyp> no heating in winter, no cooling in summer 2018-06-04T00:19:31 < jadew> karlp, no, it's 23 separate email accounts 2018-06-04T00:19:47 < englishman> the leaf is at least heated 2018-06-04T00:19:55 < zyp> in practice it doesn't matter much 2018-06-04T00:20:05 < englishman> and still says not to leave it parked in -25 for too long 2018-06-04T00:20:48 < kakimir> so useless 2018-06-04T00:20:52 < jadew> several personal, that I gathered over the years and still using, a couple for work (I have some from companies I do consulting work for), a bunch from my own company 2018-06-04T00:20:54 < englishman> the new 34 and 40kWh leafs are reportedly very strict on charging rates due to not having any cooling 2018-06-04T00:21:09 < englishman> as in, they cannot even quickcharge fully without slowing way down 2018-06-04T00:21:20 < kakimir> like after 5minutes 2018-06-04T00:21:50 < englishman> interesting VW went that way, but have not heard terrible things about them yet like the first 2-3 years of the leaf 2018-06-04T00:22:08 < jadew> what have you heard about the early leaf? 2018-06-04T00:22:11 < zyp> I've heard rumors that VW battery chemistry is less temperature sensitive 2018-06-04T00:22:31 < englishman> they also seem to be using 18650s 2018-06-04T00:22:32 < jadew> any battery fires yet? 2018-06-04T00:22:37 < kakimir> is it like.. completelly different? 2018-06-04T00:22:50 < zyp> on my car, I've only experienced it charging significantly slower than normal in two occations 2018-06-04T00:23:43 < zyp> last time were when I left it parked at oslo airport for a week during christmas vacation 2018-06-04T00:24:15 < kakimir> now take it to your hometown in the middle of winter 2018-06-04T00:24:22 < zyp> been there, done that 2018-06-04T00:24:26 < zyp> not a big deal 2018-06-04T00:24:37 < kakimir> does it have battery heater? 2018-06-04T00:24:50 < zyp> there's no fast chargers there yet, so slow fast charging isn't a concern there :p 2018-06-04T00:25:39 < zyp> the other time fast charging were a concern were just after I moved to where I live now 2018-06-04T00:26:40 < zyp> had a business trip to .dk, planned to drive, but then ferry got cancelled, went back home and parked the car, almost empty 2018-06-04T00:27:12 < zyp> since I just had moved in, electrician hadn't finished running power for the charger, so I just left the car like that and caught a plane to .dk instead 2018-06-04T00:28:15 < Thorn> SES-12 Mission https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hcM5hqQ45s 2018-06-04T00:28:44 < Steffanx> Will you be awake Thorn ? 2018-06-04T00:28:47 < zyp> when I got back, I went to go pick up a rental van to finish moving, but since battery were empty, I didn't have enough range to do that 2018-06-04T00:29:07 < Thorn> dunno 2018-06-04T00:29:12 < Thorn> will you wake me up 2018-06-04T00:29:13 < zyp> and fast charging enough to go like 30km to pick up that van took forever :p 2018-06-04T00:30:02 < zyp> owner of the van let me borrow an extension cord to charge while I rented his van 2018-06-04T00:30:11 < zyp> so getting home afterwards weren't a problem 2018-06-04T00:30:38 < Steffanx> Nope not this time Thorn 2018-06-04T00:31:02 < Thorn> :/ 2018-06-04T00:31:44 < englishman> fast charging is also slowed when the battery is close to empty, then? 2018-06-04T00:31:58 < zyp> not in my experience 2018-06-04T00:32:05 < zyp> only when it's close to full 2018-06-04T00:32:16 < englishman> why did fast charging take a long time then? 2018-06-04T00:32:25 < zyp> because it was cold 2018-06-04T00:32:27 < englishman> ahh 2018-06-04T00:32:42 < englishman> i thought it was parked in a garage 2018-06-04T00:33:15 < zyp> don't have one of those, only an open carport 2018-06-04T00:33:38 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/01Owm.jpg 2018-06-04T00:33:58 < englishman> oh all your stuff is outside 2018-06-04T00:34:06 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-04T00:34:20 < englishman> nice colur 2018-06-04T00:34:21 < zyp> it's all rated to be too 2018-06-04T00:34:33 < englishman> when i brought the leaf home, wifeishman remarked, we have 4 grey cars now 2018-06-04T00:35:02 < zyp> all cars are grey eventually anyway 2018-06-04T00:36:39 < Cracki> the whatman? 2018-06-04T00:36:55 < zyp> I thought about getting the «midnight blue», but I didn't want it enough to pay the $600 extra for it 2018-06-04T00:37:21 < zyp> the choices I had without paying extra was white, black and grey 2018-06-04T00:37:24 < zyp> so grey it is 2018-06-04T00:38:24 < zyp> yes 2018-06-04T00:38:32 < zyp> fully 2018-06-04T00:38:59 < zyp> depends on the conditions 2018-06-04T00:41:05 < zyp> dunno, I could probably run it empty in less than 100km if I go speeding on a highway in the middle of the winter 2018-06-04T00:41:54 < zyp> most I've actually done is 160km, but in good conditions I should be able to get a bit more out of it 2018-06-04T00:42:15 < zyp> well, this is a 2016 mod, current mod has 50% larger battery 2018-06-04T00:43:01 < zyp> well, duh 2018-06-04T00:43:09 < zyp> you go faster, more air resistance 2018-06-04T00:43:49 < zyp> gas cars are inefficient with start/stop driving and cold engines, EVs don't have that drawback 2018-06-04T00:44:13 < BrainDamage> also electric engines give almost constant power at any regime 2018-06-04T00:44:34 < BrainDamage> gas engines efficiency instead has a parabolic curve 2018-06-04T00:44:55 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-04T00:45:15 < zyp> I paid the equivalent of $35k or so, it seems 2018-06-04T00:45:17 < stvn> I like nuclear power fed EVs 2018-06-04T00:45:35 < zyp> but I'm in norway, and this was 2.5 years ago, so what I paid is not very relevant to what you'd have to pay 2018-06-04T00:46:18 < zyp> IIRC cheapest gas golf at the time I bought mine were even more expensive 2018-06-04T00:46:18 < kakimir> in my work there is free parking and EV chargers 2018-06-04T00:46:31 < kakimir> for bossmans 2018-06-04T00:46:48 < zyp> norway have pretty steep fees on cars, and EVs are exempt 2018-06-04T00:47:01 < zyp> which makes EVs comparably cheap 2018-06-04T00:47:12 < kakimir> that is why they made EV out of golf 2018-06-04T00:47:40 < zyp> in arizona you'd probably want a car with actively cooled batteries 2018-06-04T00:47:47 < kakimir> R2COM, employee could use them too but hey.. only bossman has the moonah to drive EV 2018-06-04T00:47:48 < zyp> like tesla do 2018-06-04T00:48:25 < zyp> no, and it's not needed here either 2018-06-04T00:49:01 < stvn> What the weather like now 2018-06-04T00:49:12 < englishbot> [Glendale, Arizona] Clear. Temp is 42.6°C but feels like 38°C. SSE wind: 3.2 kph. 2018-06-04T00:50:03 < zyp> not in norway :) 2018-06-04T00:50:07 < Thorn> my polyfuses are 2...2.5Ω before soldering and 8...10Ω after (a month after, in fact) 2018-06-04T00:50:14 < stvn> And Elon is a fruitloop 2018-06-04T00:50:46 < zyp> speaking of tesla and competition, I think other companies still have a way to go to catch up to tesla 2018-06-04T00:51:24 < zyp> and I disagree 2018-06-04T00:52:28 < zyp> I'd argue that teslas charging network is a significant advantage over the competition 2018-06-04T00:53:13 < zyp> sure, they already do, but look at this 2018-06-04T00:54:39 < zyp> one of the biggest charging sites in norway is «Nebbenes», here's the standard fast chargers there: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/QAKYw.jpg 2018-06-04T00:54:41 < Cracki> demand outstrips supply 2018-06-04T00:54:48 < Cracki> they could raise the price... 2018-06-04T00:54:52 < zyp> four 50kW DC chargers and four 22kW AC outlets 2018-06-04T00:55:10 < zyp> and here's the tesla stands on the same lot: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/jPRl7.jpg 2018-06-04T00:56:05 < Cracki> lot more tesla chargers than normal ones 2018-06-04T00:56:12 < Cracki> who paid for this site? 2018-06-04T00:56:26 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-65.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-04T00:56:40 < zyp> that's about 1.3 MW of tesla charging capacity and a bit under 300 kW for the other cars 2018-06-04T00:56:49 < mawk> 2018-06-03T23:34:36 INFO common.c: Flash written and verified! jolly good! 2018-06-04T00:56:52 < mawk> jolly good ! 2018-06-04T00:57:21 < zyp> Cracki, presumably tesla paid for their part and fortum paid for their part 2018-06-04T00:57:32 < zyp> fortum is the largest operator of public fast chargers in norway 2018-06-04T00:57:48 < stvn> Megawatts :o 2018-06-04T00:58:16 < stvn> I agree 2018-06-04T00:58:21 < Cracki> I count at least 20 tesla chargers. overkill perhaps 2018-06-04T00:58:34 < Cracki> aye more nuclear plants. it's the smartest choice. 2018-06-04T00:58:36 < zyp> Cracki, but that's what tesla do 2018-06-04T00:58:48 < stvn> EV and nuclear 2018-06-04T00:59:46 < zyp> Cracki, and because tesla are doing that, and have been doing that for years, they have a significant benefit in infrastructure 2018-06-04T00:59:51 < Cracki> :) 2018-06-04T01:00:00 < zyp> anyway, I'm going to bed now 2018-06-04T01:00:18 < Cracki> the greenies still think nuclear reactor tech hasn't evolved since 1986 2018-06-04T01:00:21 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-04T01:00:35 < zyp> R2COM, we can continue the discussion later if you'd like 2018-06-04T01:00:41 < zyp> I like talking about EVs :) 2018-06-04T01:00:55 < Cracki> >complicated parts 2018-06-04T01:00:57 < Cracki> hahahahah 2018-06-04T01:01:40 < Cracki> a space shuttle should be free then because it has none of the complicated internal combustion engine parts 2018-06-04T01:02:14 < Cracki> I wonder how that applies to EVS... 2018-06-04T01:02:46 < Cracki> might they have expensive and complicated parts that a gas car doesn't? 2018-06-04T01:03:22 < Cracki> nothing else? 2018-06-04T01:03:48 < Cracki> so it's a battery and some electro motors 2018-06-04T01:04:17 < Cracki> yeah not quite 2018-06-04T01:04:28 < Thorn> is 10Ω in series with A and B on each rs-485 device going to br a problem? 2018-06-04T01:05:08 < Cracki> simulate in falstad :> 2018-06-04T01:05:36 < Cracki> 10 ohms sounds small enough, but who knows what data rate you have, how long the bus is, ... 2018-06-04T01:06:09 < Cracki> doesn't 485 have termination resistors already, or was that CAN bus? 2018-06-04T01:06:51 < Thorn> iirc can bus has pullups like i2c 2018-06-04T01:14:31 < stvn> hmm 2018-06-04T01:16:14 < stvn> I dun get the falstad when ltspice or Tina ti is here 2018-06-04T01:17:21 < Cracki> falstad needs no introduction 2018-06-04T01:17:31 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T01:17:44 < stvn> It is trippy 2018-06-04T01:18:53 < stvn> He had some cool physics apps for speaker box topologies too iirc 2018-06-04T01:36:32 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T01:39:42 < Laurenceb_> muh babby shakkkrrr 2018-06-04T01:44:36 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/W9vg6Uo 2018-06-04T01:51:49 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.67.42] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T02:17:31 < Laurenceb_> stvn is Chop Top from Texas Chainsaw massacre 2 2018-06-04T02:39:19 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/GwaAq3T 2018-06-04T02:40:22 < Cracki> what is this soyfacery 2018-06-04T02:42:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T02:51:20 < Thorn> no, CAN does not have pullups 2018-06-04T03:17:52 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/AVnGn0P 2018-06-04T03:17:54 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-04T03:18:45 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T03:36:59 < PeterM> Thorn 10ohms shouldnt worry rs-485 2018-06-04T03:38:42 < Cracki> Laurenceb_, what does this mean? the flag was omitted? 2018-06-04T03:45:22 < Cracki> ah, saudi arabia... 2018-06-04T03:47:13 < Cracki> between japan and hungary... hm 2018-06-04T03:48:18 < mawk> is an IR receiver supposed to heat up a lot ? 2018-06-04T03:48:25 < mawk> I just burnt myself with one 2018-06-04T03:49:57 < Cracki> wat 2018-06-04T03:50:16 < Cracki> an ir receiver should be just an ir diode and some stuff around it for biasing 2018-06-04T03:50:33 < Cracki> there should never flow any serious current 2018-06-04T03:51:16 < mawk> so I guess it's a chinese crap that is short-circuiting somehow 2018-06-04T03:51:34 < Cracki> likely 2018-06-04T03:51:49 < Cracki> crack it open, have a look 2018-06-04T04:23:21 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-04T04:23:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-04T04:29:50 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-04T04:49:10 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A322F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T04:52:57 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32DB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-04T05:03:36 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-04T05:04:02 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T05:04:25 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-04T05:32:16 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-04T05:32:18 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T05:33:24 < jadew> lol, my company domain name was owned by a chinese company before I got 2018-06-04T05:33:38 < jadew> it seems I now have access to some of their accounts 2018-06-04T05:34:19 < jadew> couldn't figure out why the catch all account had a bunch of password recovery emails in chinese 2018-06-04T05:35:45 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-04T05:48:35 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-04T05:55:29 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T06:21:00 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-04T06:35:40 < dongs> http://www.gopher-tec.jp/products/WINE/main.html wtf 2018-06-04T06:39:20 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-04T06:40:14 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T06:40:44 < stvn> fffffffffffffffffffffffuuucccck 2018-06-04T06:43:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T06:44:58 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-04T06:45:14 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T06:48:14 < Thorn> can you use ceramic resonators with stm32 2018-06-04T06:49:15 < stvn> Google says yes 2018-06-04T06:50:52 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-04T06:51:15 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T06:52:18 < PeterM> dongs wtf indeed 2018-06-04T07:01:48 < R0b0t1> dongs: But how much is it 2018-06-04T07:08:39 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-04T07:08:53 < englishman> of course Thorn 2018-06-04T07:09:01 < englishman> have you read the appnotes 2018-06-04T07:09:32 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T07:16:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-04T07:16:06 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T07:18:57 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-04T07:19:04 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-04T07:19:14 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T07:41:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T07:50:53 < jadew> ok... going through the GDPR... seems like a load of shit 2018-06-04T07:51:45 < jadew> "If your company is a small and medium-sized enterprise ('SME') that processes personal data as described above you have to comply with the GDPR. However, if processing personal data isn’t a core part of your business and your activity doesn't create risks for individuals, then some obligations of the GDPR will not apply to you" 2018-06-04T07:51:52 < jadew> then they go on saying that "Note that ‘core activities’ should include activities where the processing of data forms an inextricable part of the controller’s or processor’s activities." 2018-06-04T07:51:58 < jadew> which means any fucking transaction 2018-06-04T07:52:12 < jadew> because you have to record the client's details 2018-06-04T07:53:53 < jadew> other pages from the official site would indicate otherwise tho 2018-06-04T07:54:16 < jadew> "For instance, companies with fewer than 250 employees don’t need to keep records of their processing activities unless processing of personal data is a regular activity, poses a threat to individuals’ rights and freedoms, or concerns sensitive data or criminal records." 2018-06-04T07:54:29 < jadew> still, not clear what constitues sensitive data 2018-06-04T07:55:00 < jadew> is my full address, name and phone number sensitive data? because if yes, then again, sale where you get an invoice falls into that category 2018-06-04T08:00:23 < jadew> this shit is going to be expensive 2018-06-04T08:02:55 < jadew> turns out that an individual can request their data to be deleted 2018-06-04T08:02:58 < jadew> but what about invoices? 2018-06-04T08:03:15 < jadew> do we burn them or what? 2018-06-04T08:16:02 < jadew> btw, the fine for GDPR breach is up to 4% of 20 million euros (whichever is HIGHER) 2018-06-04T08:16:53 < jadew> 4% of the annual transaction volume (not sure what it's called in english) 2018-06-04T08:17:32 < jadew> it's that value that includes both what you spend and what you earn 2018-06-04T08:21:15 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-04T08:21:22 < jadew> here 2018-06-04T08:21:27 < jadew> here's another question 2018-06-04T08:21:42 < jadew> what happens if you backup your database on non erasable mediums 2018-06-04T08:22:06 < jadew> are you supposed to destroy those backups (along with everyone else's data) when one guy says "I want you to remove my account" 2018-06-04T08:27:08 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T08:40:52 < jadew> they added more shit legislation related to cookies... 2018-06-04T08:41:00 < jadew> like those notifications weren't annoying enough 2018-06-04T08:41:08 < jadew> now they have to be even more annoying 2018-06-04T08:45:40 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T08:46:48 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T08:53:08 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-04T08:53:19 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-04T08:53:26 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T08:58:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-31b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:05:36 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-65.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:06:22 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-65.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-04T09:07:12 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:12:21 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:12:57 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:20:56 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:22:58 < jadew> lol, just received some documents from DHL, through a different courier 2018-06-04T09:30:21 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-04T09:31:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-31b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-04T09:33:17 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-04T09:42:34 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:52:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T09:59:37 < stvn> cuckies 2018-06-04T09:59:45 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydc-qt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-04T10:01:09 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-04T10:01:30 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T10:03:28 -!- Activate_ [6d3c8e42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.60.142.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T10:09:09 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T10:09:50 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T10:10:47 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-04T10:13:21 -!- mitrax [mitrax@LFbn-NCY-1-255-144.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 2018-06-04T10:18:49 -!- mitrax [mitrax@LFbn-NCY-1-255-144.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T10:25:25 -!- arha_ [~temp@188.26.94.253] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T10:26:50 -!- arha [~temp@188.25.105.160] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-04T10:31:00 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-04T10:31:17 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T11:00:29 < Steffanx> Yeah GDPR is great jadew. I think no one really knows how to comply 2018-06-04T11:00:46 < Steffanx> When when they do its possible they are judt wrong 2018-06-04T11:00:55 < Steffanx> Just* 2018-06-04T11:02:07 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, they should have just covered newsletters and crap like that 2018-06-04T11:03:48 < jadew> for me it's easy to comply (as long as I understand what I have to comply to), but for others, it's going to be expensive 2018-06-04T11:04:14 < jadew> many will have to hire programmers to make their sites compliant 2018-06-04T11:04:30 < jadew> that won't be cheap 2018-06-04T11:05:22 < Haohmaru> more jobs for them web developers 2018-06-04T11:05:36 < jadew> wasted money 2018-06-04T11:05:49 < Haohmaru> ++pizzas_eaten; 2018-06-04T11:05:57 < Haohmaru> ++shitz_shat; 2018-06-04T11:06:23 < Haohmaru> hm wait, are web developers vegans? 2018-06-04T11:07:41 < stvn> He mate 2018-06-04T11:07:50 < stvn> Hey mate 2018-06-04T11:14:37 < jadew> NASA's $25,000 Challenge - "Can you design something out of this world? 2018-06-04T11:14:37 < jadew> You don't have to be an engineer to get your work into the International Space Station" 2018-06-04T11:16:28 < jadew> they have/had lots of challanges for < $5000, down to $250 2018-06-04T11:17:00 < jadew> smart way of getting access to a lot of brainstorming for free 2018-06-04T11:17:19 < stvn> Show em a fucking emdrive 2018-06-04T11:19:36 < zyp> Cracki, I think he had a fair point, electrical drivetrains are a lot less complex 2018-06-04T11:20:02 < zyp> Cracki, which means both cheaper parts and cheaper maintenance 2018-06-04T11:23:47 < zyp> but batteries are expensive 2018-06-04T11:32:44 < drzacek> Haohmaru, irrelevant, vegan pizzas exists, vegan shits can be shaten 2018-06-04T11:33:18 < drzacek> Hello everyone btw 2018-06-04T11:33:23 < Haohmaru> don't they have moar methane? 2018-06-04T11:33:36 < Haohmaru> (however you spell it) 2018-06-04T11:33:51 < drzacek> dunno 2018-06-04T11:34:45 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T11:46:54 < drzacek> Is there some limit on how often can I send text to Virtual Com port? It looks like I need to add some delay between the calls, otherwise I send first data set twice, instead two different strings 2018-06-04T11:47:45 < drzacek> The delay is quite minimal, I do 2ms, but maybe there is a different way which I'm not seeing 2018-06-04T11:48:57 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-04T11:50:22 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T11:58:52 < invzim> ha, microsoft bought github?! What's next 2018-06-04T12:01:06 < Streaker> invzim: In order to continue enjoying the feature of git, please upgrade you Linux to Windows 10" 2018-06-04T12:01:40 < Haohmaru> and insert a drop of blood into your cd-rom 2018-06-04T12:02:01 < invzim> and of course, you need to log in with your azure team account 2018-06-04T12:02:27 < Haohmaru> i wonder if they'll want a "poo" sample 2018-06-04T12:05:02 < Streaker> We're sorry to inform you that your repository has been removed from GitHub and you will no longer have access to your code. Our IP Sentinels have detected FAT16 code in your project. 2018-06-04T12:06:23 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.67.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T12:12:24 < drzacek> #bitbucketmasterrace 2018-06-04T12:14:10 < Haohmaru> "We're very excited and happy to inform you that our AI bots have integrated cortana.exe and telemetry into the source code of 7 of your projects!" 2018-06-04T12:14:41 < Haohmaru> innocent_telemetry.exe 2018-06-04T12:15:18 < BrainDamage> github has been using somewhat invasive user profiling for a while already 2018-06-04T12:15:26 < BrainDamage> eg they do canvas fingerprinting 2018-06-04T12:16:17 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-04T12:19:27 < Haohmaru> wut's that? 2018-06-04T12:20:36 < BrainDamage> they ask your browser to render a piece of text using the default params, save it to a pic, hash it, and upload it back 2018-06-04T12:21:00 < BrainDamage> font rendering mechanisms have so many tunable that the result tends to be ~unique across machines 2018-06-04T12:21:06 < Haohmaru> ah, sneaky bastards 2018-06-04T12:21:47 < Haohmaru> another such technique i've heard about is.. to ask your browser for a list of "available fonts" on yer system 2018-06-04T12:21:50 < Haohmaru> how innocent 2018-06-04T12:22:07 < BrainDamage> yes, all those tecniques are called 'browser fingerprinting' 2018-06-04T12:22:16 < stvn> it's the gooks, son 2018-06-04T12:22:21 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T12:22:40 < Haohmaru> how dafuq does a website find out your local IP (behind the router) ? 2018-06-04T12:22:43 < BrainDamage> in some cases they are used for semi-legit usage, eg some sites try to detect browsers to limit account intrusion 2018-06-04T12:23:01 < BrainDamage> because webrtc sends the list of all your ips, including the land 2018-06-04T12:23:04 < BrainDamage> -d 2018-06-04T12:23:30 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has 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2018-06-04T13:36:00 < jadew> Steffanx, don't know, I enjoyed it up to season 7 (including ep 1) 2018-06-04T13:36:52 < stvn> i didn't watch a single minute of it 2018-06-04T13:36:55 < Haohmaru> episode 1 is important for the trailers 2018-06-04T13:36:59 < Haohmaru> the rest is void fill 2018-06-04T13:37:30 < Haohmaru> stvn, same 2018-06-04T13:38:10 < jadew> they managed to make something watchable from a silly theme 2018-06-04T13:38:33 < Steffanx> No way. 2018-06-04T13:39:42 < jadew> I'm a sucker for dystopian movies 2018-06-04T13:39:51 < Steffanx> The acting is terrible imho 2018-06-04T13:40:09 < jadew> in some cases yeah 2018-06-04T13:40:55 < Steffanx> Especially this Rick Grimes (i only know because i just googled) is/was f*cking terrible 2018-06-04T13:43:14 < Steffanx> Latest series i stopped watching is The Legion. Couldnt follow it anymore. Its totally weird. 2018-06-04T13:43:21 < Steffanx> stvn would like 2018-06-04T13:43:36 < jadew> is that the one with the angel zombies? 2018-06-04T13:43:42 < Steffanx> *Legion, not legion 2018-06-04T13:44:01 < Steffanx> No, its about some xmenish psychic. 2018-06-04T13:44:14 < jadew> how many seasons are good? 2018-06-04T13:44:27 < Steffanx> 1. 2018-06-04T13:44:36 < jadew> that's good enough, I'll try it 2018-06-04T13:44:57 < Steffanx> Perhaps its still good, but i can no longer follow it. It requires more than your full attention 2018-06-04T13:48:03 < jadew> I'll try into the bad lands next 2018-06-04T13:48:22 < jadew> either that or the son 2018-06-04T13:54:15 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T14:12:33 < Haohmaru> is this crap worth it? http://s.aliexpress.com/F7zYJRfe 2018-06-04T14:12:49 < Haohmaru> or is it useful at all 2018-06-04T14:15:09 < jadew> that p&p machine is compact 2018-06-04T14:15:16 < jadew> I had my eyes on a differet one 2018-06-04T14:15:35 < jadew> much bigger tho (came with its own stand and enclosure) 2018-06-04T14:18:54 < jadew> it doesn't have vision, does it? 2018-06-04T14:19:11 < Haohmaru> no idea, it says it has two cameras 2018-06-04T14:19:19 < jadew> oh, interesting 2018-06-04T14:19:29 < Haohmaru> "embedded linux system" 2018-06-04T14:19:31 < jadew> if you get it, let me know how well it works 2018-06-04T14:19:38 < Haohmaru> i've no idea how you gon' program that thing 2018-06-04T14:20:02 < Haohmaru> but it'd be nice if it doesn't require naaaasty windows 2018-06-04T14:20:33 < Haohmaru> we got a dumb half-broken CNC mill here that's stuck with windows XP 2018-06-04T14:20:38 < Haohmaru> i hate dealing with it 2018-06-04T14:21:18 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T14:22:49 < jadew> this is the one I was considering: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Full-Set-CHMT530P-Advanced-Desktop-SMT-Chip-Mounter-20pcs-Pneumatic-Feeder-Vision-System-Mark2/32630913941.html 2018-06-04T14:27:30 < Laurenceb> sup trollz 2018-06-04T14:28:08 < dongs> for what 2018-06-04T14:28:36 < jadew> I ended up buying this instead: https://www.youtube.com/embed/pdGSFc7VjBE?start=268&end=275 2018-06-04T14:28:51 < Laurenceb> wew 2018-06-04T14:29:00 < Laurenceb> everyone is raging at me 2018-06-04T14:29:21 < jadew> Laurenceb, in real life? 2018-06-04T14:29:32 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-04T14:30:02 < Laurenceb> >be me >actually do some work >apply to lots of conferences >get accepted >epic win 2018-06-04T14:30:16 < jadew> that's usually not a good sign 2018-06-04T14:30:19 < Laurenceb> >be perman00b >dont know when the deadlines are >fail epically 2018-06-04T14:30:29 < Laurenceb> >reeeeee 2018-06-04T14:30:42 < Laurenceb> >try to blame Laurenceb somehow for your own failings 2018-06-04T14:31:01 < jadew> if they do that, it means you're in a shitty position 2018-06-04T14:31:17 < Laurenceb> lul Russian grrrl has just stormed out of the basement lair 2018-06-04T14:31:24 < Laurenceb> truly epic fail 2018-06-04T14:32:01 < jadew> generally speaking, if somone is raging at you, it means they don't respect you enough 2018-06-04T14:32:08 < Laurenceb> ikr 2018-06-04T14:32:14 < jadew> and by respect I mean actual respect or fear 2018-06-04T14:32:17 < jadew> either is good 2018-06-04T14:32:20 < Steffanx> I still wonder how reasonable you are in rl discussions 2018-06-04T14:32:21 < Laurenceb> well I have been irl trolling them since shakergate 2018-06-04T14:32:31 < Steffanx> There you go. 2018-06-04T14:32:54 < Laurenceb> if they arent going to do any work they arent going to have any publications 2018-06-04T14:33:44 < Laurenceb> I even agreed to add them as second authorsa 2018-06-04T14:34:17 < jadew> you're going to publish a paper about not finding anything? 2018-06-04T14:34:20 < Steffanx> On the other hand.. who cares about shaker publications? 2018-06-04T14:34:23 < Laurenceb> its like incel rage applied to scientific publishing 2018-06-04T14:34:26 < Laurenceb> ikr 2018-06-04T14:34:31 < Laurenceb> jadew: probably lol 2018-06-04T14:34:58 < jadew> money well spent :) 2018-06-04T14:35:09 < BrainDamage> "A self-study on the effect of masochistic practices in the workplace, coadiuvated with an antisocial-narcistic behaviour" - Lawrence Blaxter 2018-06-04T14:35:12 < Laurenceb> the virgin perman00b versus the chad abstract deadline meeting guy 2018-06-04T14:36:39 < Laurenceb> lul rage emails are arriving 2018-06-04T14:36:51 < Laurenceb> literally inceldom mindset applied to publishing 2018-06-04T14:36:59 < jadew> what is incel again? 2018-06-04T14:37:22 < Laurenceb> actually I suspect she is an actual incel as well 2018-06-04T14:37:39 < Laurenceb> jadew: u n00b https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel 2018-06-04T14:38:04 < jadew> right 2018-06-04T14:38:06 < jadew> funny 2018-06-04T14:38:53 < jadew> "online subculture" - pretty sure that's an offline thing too 2018-06-04T14:39:12 < Laurenceb> I should reply with a link to r/Femcels 2018-06-04T14:39:21 < englishman> good morning fellow PIC18F enthusiasts. and also tct 2018-06-04T14:39:30 < jadew> what are femcels? 2018-06-04T14:39:34 < Steffanx> Hi picman. 2018-06-04T14:39:51 < jadew> is that the one with USB? 2018-06-04T14:41:55 < Steffanx> Some have 4550 etc. Not sure if they all have usb 2018-06-04T14:41:56 < BrainDamage> dumb question, do you guys get the italian alps photo contest banner on wikipedo too, or am i being geo2ip'ed? 2018-06-04T14:42:23 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Island_emu 2018-06-04T14:42:25 < Laurenceb> 4 me lol 2018-06-04T14:42:32 < Steffanx> Not me BrainDamage 2018-06-04T14:44:11 < jadew> me neither 2018-06-04T14:44:28 < Laurenceb> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/378/637/e72.gif 2018-06-04T14:47:37 < Laurenceb> reeeee 2018-06-04T14:47:38 < Laurenceb> https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/18/06/04/0048242/programmer-creates-bee-counter-using-a-raspberry-pi 2018-06-04T14:47:45 < Laurenceb> moar theves stealing muh ideaz 2018-06-04T15:12:26 < Laurenceb> wtf is this shit https://imgur.com/KHEjcYl 2018-06-04T15:12:33 < Laurenceb> I refuse to believe this is real 2018-06-04T15:13:13 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/uv6ChSk 2018-06-04T15:21:25 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86OkGaKck3I 2018-06-04T15:21:36 < Laurenceb> found waifu for stvn 2018-06-04T15:24:49 < tct> tct is the biggest PIC18F enthusiast, Mr. englishman 2018-06-04T15:25:26 < Laurenceb> wew we're hitting cringe levels that shouldnt be possible 2018-06-04T15:29:20 < dongs> is this what passes for "entertainment" in UK? 2018-06-04T15:31:14 < tct> yes, as face sitting has been banned 2018-06-04T15:32:49 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-04T15:33:11 < Laurenceb> >confusing australian accent for uk 2018-06-04T15:42:15 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T15:43:14 < tct> how's stuff? 2018-06-04T15:53:43 < Laurenceb> trollin and raging 2018-06-04T15:53:47 < Laurenceb> the eternal cycle 2018-06-04T15:54:06 < Haohmaru> theyseemetrollin_theyhatin 2018-06-04T15:54:25 < dongs> https://youtu.be/Kajlrr5ybpU?t=55 the actual fuck 2018-06-04T15:54:33 < Haohmaru> Laurenceb, u like gansta rap? ;P~ 2018-06-04T15:56:45 < Laurenceb> NO 2018-06-04T15:57:18 < Laurenceb> wew how many of those actually work 2018-06-04T15:57:19 < Haohmaru> y man, itz sooo positive 2018-06-04T15:57:39 < Haohmaru> and groovy 2018-06-04T16:01:45 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzTzK_7tXCE 2018-06-04T16:17:03 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T16:30:09 < Laurenceb> The worst examples of capitalism is that we burn fossil fuels to literally create dragon dildoes 2018-06-04T16:31:24 < BrainDamage> I'll take from that that you're interested in a ecologically sustainable dragon dildo 2018-06-04T17:02:04 -!- nikomo_ is now known as nikomo 2018-06-04T17:03:13 < Laurenceb> https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.520639218.4456/flat,800x800,070,f.jpg 2018-06-04T17:03:51 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-04T17:05:36 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T17:06:04 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T17:06:23 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T17:08:27 < Haohmaru> !qz varna 2018-06-04T17:08:33 < Haohmaru> !wz varna 2018-06-04T17:08:34 < englishbot> [Varna, Bulgaria] Rain. Temp is 17.8°C. WNW wind: 11.9 kph. Humidity: 90%. 2018-06-04T17:08:46 < Haohmaru> such much rain here 2018-06-04T17:09:46 < Steffanx> How much is that? 2018-06-04T17:10:19 -!- Activate_ [6d3c8e42@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.60.142.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-04T17:11:08 < englishman> so many cool countries in this chan now 2018-06-04T17:11:14 < englishman> and, no sweden 2018-06-04T17:11:26 < englishman> win-win 2018-06-04T17:11:29 < zyp> heh 2018-06-04T17:11:32 < zyp> !wz grimstad 2018-06-04T17:11:34 < englishbot> [Grimstad, Norway] Clear. Temp is 24°C. SE wind: 13 kph. 2018-06-04T17:11:38 < zyp> better 2018-06-04T17:12:18 < bitmask> nice, my boro glass is out for delivery ,finally graduating from painters tape on the alu bed 2018-06-04T17:12:59 < bitmask> and its the first day of school. mommy is dropping me off at the bus stop later 2018-06-04T17:13:37 < zyp> why glass? 2018-06-04T17:13:43 < bitmask> oh you 2018-06-04T17:13:50 < bitmask> because its flat 2018-06-04T17:14:13 < zyp> fair 2018-06-04T17:14:19 < bitmask> and removable 2018-06-04T17:15:06 < bitmask> if I find its not 'sticky' enough I'll add a pei or buildtak or some sticker to it but I think it will be ok with hairspray or glue. 2018-06-04T17:15:15 < bitmask> but mainly just wnated a flat surface 2018-06-04T17:15:28 < Hamilton> I wonder what would be the response of embedded-related projects hosted on github (now that github announces it was acquired by microsoft)... 2018-06-04T17:15:29 < bitmask> my alu bed is horrible 2018-06-04T17:15:42 < zyp> yeah, the one on the tarantula is too 2018-06-04T17:15:42 < Hamilton> karlp, what do you think 2018-06-04T17:15:53 < Hamilton> I guess openocd was already on sf 2018-06-04T17:16:22 < Laurenceb> sheeet 2018-06-04T17:16:28 < zyp> the one on the tarantula is like .5mm lower in the center than on the edges 2018-06-04T17:16:31 < Laurenceb> now Ballmer owns muh codez 2018-06-04T17:16:43 < zyp> Laurenceb, not your spaces, luckily 2018-06-04T17:16:47 < Hamilton> Laurenceb, You shared a link some days ago, I guess it was just speculation? 2018-06-04T17:16:59 < Laurenceb> wut? 2018-06-04T17:17:08 < Laurenceb> m$ just took over github 2018-06-04T17:17:12 < Laurenceb> read da news 2018-06-04T17:17:15 < Hamilton> It wasn't confirmed few days ago 2018-06-04T17:17:18 < Hamilton> Laurenceb, I know 2018-06-04T17:17:20 < Laurenceb> k 2018-06-04T17:18:06 < Laurenceb> >and its the first day of school. mommy is dropping me off at the bus stop later 2018-06-04T17:18:08 < Laurenceb> wut 2018-06-04T17:18:13 < Hamilton> The next embedded project I know of is Eclipse MCU plugin 2018-06-04T17:18:15 < Laurenceb> Poe applies 2018-06-04T17:18:39 < bitmask> my last 3 classes start today, I was joking about the bus stop thing 2018-06-04T17:18:45 < Laurenceb> k 2018-06-04T17:18:54 < Laurenceb> wondered if u were literally 4 year sold 2018-06-04T17:19:02 < bitmask> that was the joke 2018-06-04T17:19:16 < Laurenceb> >implying my mental age inst 4 2018-06-04T17:19:44 < Laurenceb> I still remember my first day at school, it was shit :P 2018-06-04T17:19:56 < bitmask> which school 2018-06-04T17:20:04 < Laurenceb> >u have to be here for HOW long?!?! >every day ?! 2018-06-04T17:20:26 < Laurenceb> uk primary school 2018-06-04T17:20:45 < Laurenceb> it really is just childcare so parents can go to work 2018-06-04T17:20:51 < Laurenceb> didnt learn anything useful 2018-06-04T17:20:57 < bitmask> I dont know how UK'ers do school, do you have preschool/kindergarten, elementary, middle, high? 2018-06-04T17:21:15 < Laurenceb> nah just primary (~4 to 11) and secondary (11-18) 2018-06-04T17:21:58 < bitmask> i see 2018-06-04T17:22:00 < Laurenceb> preschool <4 is private and basically childcare 2018-06-04T17:22:27 < zyp> wat, start at 4? 2018-06-04T17:22:39 < Laurenceb> 8:30am to 4:30pm is batshit when ur an adult 2018-06-04T17:22:43 < Laurenceb> zyp: yeah 2018-06-04T17:22:49 < zyp> weird 2018-06-04T17:22:50 < Laurenceb> uk school is shit 2018-06-04T17:22:57 < Laurenceb> and its military training tier 2018-06-04T17:23:09 < zyp> norway starts at 6 2018-06-04T17:23:14 < dongs> its more shit cuz you attended it 2018-06-04T17:23:15 < BrainDamage> 6 here as well 2018-06-04T17:23:16 < Laurenceb> have to have perfect uniform and clall teachers sir etc 2018-06-04T17:23:33 < Laurenceb> address prefects correctly and stuff 2018-06-04T17:24:02 < bitmask> I went to this montesory preschool/kindergarten that lets you choose what you want to do but you actually learn. 2018-06-04T17:24:13 < Laurenceb> prob better to have Russian military service 2018-06-04T17:24:18 < zyp> I started at 7, the rules got changed to 6 in '97 2018-06-04T17:31:02 < Steffanx> 4 in dutchland too. 2018-06-04T17:31:23 < bitmask> time to drill this ikea lack table, lets hope I marked the holes well 2018-06-04T17:31:27 < dongs> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingdings#Controversy 2018-06-04T17:32:16 < Cracki> heh 2018-06-04T17:33:10 < Cracki> pure coincidence I'm sure 2018-06-04T17:36:18 < Cracki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coincidence_detector 2018-06-04T17:36:56 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-04T17:37:38 < Laurenceb> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/Wingdings_NYC.svg/290px-Wingdings_NYC.svg.png 2018-06-04T17:37:40 < Cracki> they aren't even hiding it anymore https://cdn.mobilesyrup.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/YouTube-HQ-with-Logo.jpg 2018-06-04T17:42:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T17:49:21 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-04T17:56:44 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T17:59:51 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-04T18:15:20 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-04T18:19:16 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/Tp8VzOg 2018-06-04T18:19:39 < bitmask> the brackets I designed for the leg raisers work great 2018-06-04T18:28:46 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T18:30:18 < aandrew> bitmask: nice, is the black frame something bought or built? 2018-06-04T18:30:40 < bitmask> bought, cheap anet a6 for $180 2018-06-04T18:31:06 < bitmask> Id like to get rid of all the acrylic at some point but it serves its purpose for now 2018-06-04T18:35:07 < aandrew> yes, but I'm taling about the black frame you made the brackets for 2018-06-04T18:45:28 < Cracki> ikea lack tables 2018-06-04T18:45:33 < Cracki> 19" compatible 2018-06-04T18:45:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-04T18:46:29 < Cracki> theyre cardboard 2018-06-04T18:49:18 < bitmask> oh yea 2018-06-04T18:55:28 < aandrew> haha nice 2018-06-04T18:56:18 < Cracki> comparably strong cardboard, structurally sensible origami 2018-06-04T18:58:56 < bitmask> yea they work well but I definitely dont want to get it wet :P 2018-06-04T18:59:55 < Cracki> you can wipe them wet, surface might suffer, just don't bathe them 2018-06-04T19:02:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T19:08:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-04T19:10:03 < nn77> I have an stm32f303 nucleo thingy. I've opened up a sample project and I have the datasheet on the STM. I see things in the demo program like "GPIO_InitStructure.GPIO_PuPd = GPIO_PuPd_NOPULL;" How do I figure out what this means? 2018-06-04T19:10:42 < nn77> I can guess from the words, but how would I know to program this? 2018-06-04T19:10:50 < nn77> There's some big leap here that I'm not understanding. 2018-06-04T19:10:56 < Rickta59> did you find the stmcube docs? 2018-06-04T19:11:20 < nn77> there's a gettingstarted.pdf in the documentation directory 2018-06-04T19:11:59 < nn77> it's what got me to load a project this demo project. But it doesn't explain what these commands are. 2018-06-04T19:12:15 < nn77> in the AVR datasheet, there's register descriptions and sample code. The STM datasheet has none of that. 2018-06-04T19:12:39 < Rickta59> you are using the stm32 cube api .. not the registers 2018-06-04T19:13:25 < Rickta59> http://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/embedded-software/mcus-embedded-software/stm32-embedded-software/stm32cube-mcu-packages/stm32cubef3.html 2018-06-04T19:13:39 < nn77> yeah I have that 2018-06-04T19:13:40 < Rickta59> probably start with the db2348 doc 2018-06-04T19:14:19 < nn77> ok 2018-06-04T19:15:15 < Rickta59> and the um1786 2018-06-04T19:16:30 < Rickta59> if you are using Atollic, you can right click on the function and go to its source to see what they are really doing 2018-06-04T19:16:43 < Rickta59> lots of levels of indirection to make sure it makes no sense 2018-06-04T19:16:59 < nn77> awesome 2018-06-04T19:17:14 < Rickta59> or you can just read the 303 datasheet 2018-06-04T19:18:32 < nn77> "The HAL drivers are feature-oriented instead of IP-oriented." IP? 2018-06-04T19:18:41 < nn77> internet protocol? 2018-06-04T19:18:48 < Rickta59> intellectual property? 2018-06-04T19:19:22 < Rickta59> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/reference_manual/4a/19/6e/18/9d/92/43/32/DM00043574.pdf/files/DM00043574.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00043574.pdf page 235 ish 2018-06-04T19:21:08 < nn77> ahh... a reference manual. thank you very much 2018-06-04T19:23:42 < nn77> "IP" isn't even in the acronyms table (but HAL and API are) 2018-06-04T19:25:33 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T19:29:41 < Rickta59> could me intentional programming .. i don't know 2018-06-04T19:30:58 < Rickta59> the stm32cube people seem to be writing with the same approach as Microsoft so maybe it is that 2018-06-04T19:34:55 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-144-208.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T19:35:32 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T19:46:09 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T19:53:11 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-144-208.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-04T19:58:14 < englishman> PaulFertser, are you in moscow or elsewhere? tried this? https://www.instagram.com/poutinerie_russe/?hl=en 2018-06-04T20:02:57 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-04T20:05:22 < Laurenceb> at first it was like https://imgur.com/FXhd6bD 2018-06-04T20:05:48 < Laurenceb> but then https://imgur.com/B8kMyZG 2018-06-04T20:06:21 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-04T20:10:28 < aandrew> oh, remember my SPI mode 3 problem where CLK would drop after the transfer was complete? 2018-06-04T20:10:47 < aandrew> there's an AFCNTR bit in SPI_CFG2 which makes it behave correctly 2018-06-04T20:11:45 < aandrew> basically if AFCNTR=0, when SPI is done it gives control of the lines back to (the gpio perhperal?) the system. if it's 1, it maintains the states as it should 2018-06-04T20:17:27 < englishman> nice 2018-06-04T20:17:29 < englishman> which chip? 2018-06-04T20:21:12 < invzim> allreet, I can now clone a truestudio project from git, import it and build it with no changes in local git repo afte rcloning 2018-06-04T20:21:16 < invzim> what a ballache to set that up.. 2018-06-04T20:26:57 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T20:28:28 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Quit: brb n stuff] 2018-06-04T20:30:39 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T20:33:14 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydc-qt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T20:33:24 < aandrew> englishman: STM32H7432 2018-06-04T20:33:39 < aandrew> what's also interesting is that you can swap MISO/MOSI in software which is nice 2018-06-04T20:35:44 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T20:36:17 < Hamilton> Does CubeHAL provide a way to enable UART in DMA mode? 2018-06-04T20:36:31 < Hamilton> I'm looking for an alternative to "huart2.Instance->CR3 |= USART_CR3_DMAT;" 2018-06-04T20:47:07 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@50-251-203-155-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T20:54:41 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-04T20:56:02 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T21:01:30 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T21:01:30 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-04T21:01:30 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T21:04:53 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T21:20:28 < PaulFertser> englishman: i'm in moscow, yes 2018-06-04T21:23:18 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T21:23:29 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T21:32:24 < Laurenceb> aandrew: do you have custom H7 board? 2018-06-04T21:34:16 < PaulFertser> englishman: but haven't heard or seen or tried poutinerie. 2018-06-04T21:37:21 < aandrew> I do not, no. I'm just using a nucleo board for the time being 2018-06-04T21:38:17 < Steffanx> oh there is a h7 nucleo, how fancy 2018-06-04T21:48:41 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T22:01:26 < Laurenceb> it wasnt me https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=91ydc_1528134122 2018-06-04T22:01:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@50-251-203-155-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-04T22:07:07 < Cracki> brits have lost it https://pbs.twimg.com/media/De3gyDNW0AcfVbv.jpg:orig 2018-06-04T22:07:31 < Cracki> what's burning there and why? 2018-06-04T22:07:50 < Laurenceb> muh roof 2018-06-04T22:07:51 < Cracki> >newsFLARE 2018-06-04T22:07:52 < Cracki> lel 2018-06-04T22:07:57 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-04T22:08:02 < Cracki> cute fluffy fireball 2018-06-04T22:08:04 < Laurenceb> all the roads are closed atm reeee 2018-06-04T22:08:17 < Cracki> is this a repeat of tower hamlets? 2018-06-04T22:08:18 < vampi-the-frog> looks like the air conditioning burned or something 2018-06-04T22:08:21 < Laurenceb> that place is an islamic school so... 2018-06-04T22:08:28 < Cracki> ah 2018-06-04T22:08:31 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-04T22:08:31 < Cracki> they're hangry 2018-06-04T22:09:00 < vampi-the-frog> that's not the first time they arrest the girl 2018-06-04T22:09:53 < vampi-the-frog> title does not make it clear who was 14 and how old was the other person 2018-06-04T22:10:07 < Laurenceb> arg already emailz from github 2018-06-04T22:10:09 < Cracki> nvm, it was grenfell tower 2018-06-04T22:10:21 < Laurenceb> >Satya Nadella 2018-06-04T22:10:24 < Laurenceb> pls go away 2018-06-04T22:10:36 < Cracki> not into women? 2018-06-04T22:11:04 < Cracki> has MS sweeped the bsdgrrl faction out of github yet? 2018-06-04T22:11:14 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya_Nadella#/media/File:Satya_smiling-print.jpg 2018-06-04T22:11:18 < Laurenceb> its a dude 2018-06-04T22:11:25 < Cracki> yikes 2018-06-04T22:12:30 < Cracki> >on the board of directors of Starbucks 2018-06-04T22:12:39 < Cracki> inb4 github public toilets 2018-06-04T22:13:07 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/oWrHQoM 2018-06-04T22:13:10 < Laurenceb> kakimir btfo 2018-06-04T22:14:31 < Cracki> if it drinks like a russian, it's a russian. 2018-06-04T22:20:59 < kakimir> Laurenceb, little known fact - finland was part of russian empire 1809–1917 2018-06-04T22:22:39 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T22:24:58 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-04T22:25:38 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T22:28:10 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-04T22:28:18 < stvn> ok 2018-06-04T22:29:34 < Steffanx> Australia was part of the Russian Empire a few years before that. 2018-06-04T22:31:07 < kakimir> australia wtf 2018-06-04T22:31:13 < kakimir> it's another side of the world? 2018-06-04T22:31:22 < Steffanx> stvn knows 2018-06-04T22:32:36 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DiQMn804/steffan.PNG 2018-06-04T22:33:53 < BrainDamage> http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/maps-europe-883689.jpeg 2018-06-04T22:34:42 < stvn> theepot kopen? 2018-06-04T22:35:58 < BrainDamage> sorry, I am neither too sober nor sufficiently drunk to speak retardese, please reformulate using english language 2018-06-04T22:38:33 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T22:39:56 < Steffanx> What language is that, BrainDamage? 2018-06-04T22:41:43 < BrainDamage> the one that people willingly subject themselves to to speak while pretending, either intentionally or not, to be idiots 2018-06-04T22:41:57 < BrainDamage> eg stvn's intentional, while laurenceb's not 2018-06-04T22:42:25 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/8RLH4WWe/IMG_1217.JPG 2018-06-04T22:42:30 < Steffanx> I have no choice either. My mom taught me that language. 2018-06-04T22:43:36 < Cracki> nennt sich Gehirnschaden, nennt andere zurückgeblieben kek 2018-06-04T22:43:57 < Cracki> want a drink? 2018-06-04T22:44:08 < Steffanx> Yes sir. 2018-06-04T22:44:13 < Steffanx> Und bratwurst. 2018-06-04T22:44:36 < Cracki> damn now I crave a Bratwurst and Sauerkraut 2018-06-04T22:44:54 < Steffanx> Sauerkraut, no ty. that crap is awful 2018-06-04T22:45:08 < BrainDamage> ^ 2018-06-04T22:45:14 < Cracki> you don't know what's good 2018-06-04T22:45:25 < Steffanx> No, but i do know what's bad. 2018-06-04T22:45:28 < Steffanx> *terrible. 2018-06-04T22:45:53 < Cracki> lack of sauerkraut makes a sour kraut 2018-06-04T22:46:54 < Cracki> hm, tomorrow they serve Schnitzel "swiss style" 2018-06-04T22:47:39 < Cracki> they just put stuff on it, cheese on top, then bake 2018-06-04T22:47:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d1e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T22:48:12 < BrainDamage> I tought swiss style would be with impossible spelling 2018-06-04T22:48:54 < Steffanx> And Käsekuchen for dessert? I like that stuff 2018-06-04T22:49:36 < BrainDamage> fuck no, cheese is abhorrent 2018-06-04T22:50:20 < Steffanx> but this is different, nothing like cheese at all. 2018-06-04T22:50:53 < Steffanx> No Mozzarella for BrainDamage? 2018-06-04T22:51:12 < BrainDamage> only on pizza 2018-06-04T22:51:18 < BrainDamage> that's it 2018-06-04T22:51:20 < Steffanx> hm. 2018-06-04T22:51:22 < Steffanx> Weird. 2018-06-04T22:52:32 < Cracki> ^ 2018-06-04T22:52:37 < Cracki> cheese is good on everything 2018-06-04T22:53:27 < BrainDamage> I'm pretty much a pariah here for holding that opinion 2018-06-04T22:54:25 < Steffanx> pariah.. i had to google that. 2018-06-04T22:56:49 < BrainDamage> If you prefer, I could formulate my replies in image-macro form 2018-06-04T22:58:26 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-04T22:58:50 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-04T23:00:43 < Steffanx> Only if you pick your bestest anime, BrainDamage 2018-06-04T23:05:20 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.66.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T23:09:34 < zyp> Steffanx, booked some ferry tickets and stuff today, probably dropping by your place on jul 31. or so 2018-06-04T23:11:17 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-04T23:15:55 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/WoIzs.png <- route's probably going to be looking something like this 2018-06-04T23:16:39 < Cracki> that looks like it's passing through cologne and aachen 2018-06-04T23:17:22 < zyp> yeah? 2018-06-04T23:17:29 < Steffanx> Hah cool zyp 2018-06-04T23:18:01 < englishman> pretty nice road trip there 2018-06-04T23:18:35 < zyp> I hope so :) 2018-06-04T23:18:57 < kakimir> zyp, on what vehicle? 2018-06-04T23:19:03 < englishman> i see that you also cannot resist the draw of currywurst and kölsch 2018-06-04T23:19:29 < kakimir> 3100km woo 2018-06-04T23:19:48 < kakimir> oh it must be 2 direction 2018-06-04T23:19:49 < zyp> more like 2200km, google maps includes the ferry distances too 2018-06-04T23:19:50 < BrainDamage> terrasail 2018-06-04T23:20:50 < kakimir> good idea 2018-06-04T23:21:09 < zyp> I've only figured around 2-4 hours of driving each day, my wife is not a too big fan of long drives 2018-06-04T23:21:26 < zyp> but that's fine, more time to do other stuff as well 2018-06-04T23:22:00 < kakimir> 2? 2018-06-04T23:22:09 < kakimir> that is like driving to city from home 2018-06-04T23:22:43 < zyp> haha :) 2018-06-04T23:23:03 < Steffanx> We better meet in Groningen on a tues-, wednes- or friday zyp. 2018-06-04T23:23:13 < Steffanx> Then the waffle boy will be there 2018-06-04T23:23:21 < zyp> 31. is a tuesday 2018-06-04T23:23:35 < BrainDamage> is the waffle boy your dealer? 2018-06-04T23:23:38 < Steffanx> Ah 2018-06-04T23:23:59 < Steffanx> No. My stuff isnt THAT fresh. 2018-06-04T23:24:44 < zyp> my schedule is not entirely fixed yet, but I'm catching the ferry from Kiel on aug 2. 2018-06-04T23:26:02 < Steffanx> The supermarket is my dealer, BrainDamage 2018-06-04T23:26:25 < zyp> so being in Groningen on jul 31. is the most likely fit 2018-06-04T23:26:59 < Steffanx> Aha. Keep in mind Groningen (centre) might not be very car friendly 2018-06-04T23:27:58 < zyp> like most cities, no? :p 2018-06-04T23:28:17 < Steffanx> Yes, probably. 2018-06-04T23:28:34 < zyp> hmm, population of 200k, shouldn't be too bad 2018-06-04T23:29:06 < zyp> I guess you don't have any fancy parking fee exempts for EVs as we do here :p 2018-06-04T23:29:43 < zyp> I like taking my car to Oslo, because when I can park it all over the place for free, it's way cheaper than bus/train tickets :p 2018-06-04T23:31:24 < Steffanx> Not sure. In the north of dutchland we arent really into evs yet 2018-06-04T23:32:16 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T23:33:01 < Hamilton> wait, why does HAL_DMA_Init(&hdma_usart_tx) CLEANS callbacks?? :| 2018-06-04T23:33:29 < Hamilton> I wasted ~3hours to fix a bug...I was setting .XferCpltCallback *before* this call! 2018-06-04T23:34:00 < zyp> because the point of an init function is to initialize a context struct that might otherwise contain garbage? 2018-06-04T23:34:07 < Steffanx> Stop using HAL. Use the LL stuff instead 2018-06-04T23:34:15 < zyp> no, this isn't about HAL 2018-06-04T23:34:18 < Steffanx> Then youre more into control 2018-06-04T23:34:28 < zyp> this is common sense for any API using context structs 2018-06-04T23:34:42 < Steffanx> That too, but more control is better 2018-06-04T23:37:04 < Hamilton> zyp, I guess you are totally right in the case that init means init 2018-06-04T23:37:42 < Hamilton> But how is it so that we actally set lots of parameters before that call? 2018-06-04T23:37:50 < zyp> you do? 2018-06-04T23:38:00 < zyp> maybe I'm wrong, I don't use HAL 2018-06-04T23:38:25 < Hamilton> zyp, pastebin.xyz/p?q=VlBWbGg 2018-06-04T23:38:33 < Hamilton> This is literally code generated by MX 2018-06-04T23:38:59 < Hamilton> HAL_DMA_Init needs hdma_usart2_tx.Init be set 2018-06-04T23:39:12 < Hamilton> but it silently nulls all 4 function calls 2018-06-04T23:39:37 < zyp> oh, okay, that's just stupid 2018-06-04T23:39:42 < Hamilton> zyp, But again, I guess you are logically right. I was trusting another source which actually did this mistake 2018-06-04T23:40:03 < Hamilton> Or maybe at the time, HAL worked that way. Who knows 2018-06-04T23:44:47 < Steffanx> So in the end init does not init the struct :P 2018-06-04T23:45:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-04T23:45:22 < Steffanx> It has structinit for that i believe 2018-06-04T23:47:11 < Hamilton> Steffanx, hdma_usart2_tx is a struct contaiting a "init" struct. It seems HAL_DMA_Init uses that "init" struct for initialization but nulls all other parameters 2018-06-04T23:48:03 < Steffanx> Yes, i understand Hamilton 2018-06-04T23:48:09 < Hamilton> But look here 2018-06-04T23:48:10 < Hamilton> pastebin.xyz/p?q=VHh2NEw 2018-06-04T23:48:20 < Hamilton> Is this signature enough to deduce these? 2018-06-04T23:49:10 < Hamilton> I guess it could stress more on null'ing callbacks 2018-06-04T23:53:53 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-04T23:55:07 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-04T23:58:30 < Hamilton> I remember 0xfffffff9 had a significance in Arm. When I track ISR calls, there is a call from that address which does not render to code. I guess it had something to do with Context Swtich. Anyone remembers? --- Day changed Tue Jun 05 2018 2018-06-05T00:02:03 < Hamilton> Oh it is the content of LR and causes the processor to return to Thread Mode 2018-06-05T00:02:37 < Hamilton> I guess it it was 0xFFFFFFF1, PC would still return to another ISR and that would be where tail-chaining would happe 2018-06-05T00:09:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T00:10:01 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.66.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T00:10:49 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T00:14:58 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T00:14:58 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T00:15:25 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T00:17:40 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-05T00:20:50 < Cracki> wanna see a smiling KJU? https://twitter.com/CrazyinRussia/status/1003743189608665088 2018-06-05T00:22:03 < Steffanx> haha lol 2018-06-05T00:26:54 * Hamilton2 wonders why that image is marked *sensitive* for him 2018-06-05T00:27:33 < Steffanx> Lolwut 2018-06-05T00:28:13 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T00:28:17 < Hamilton2> Every tweet of that account is marked sensitive for me 2018-06-05T00:28:44 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T00:28:51 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-05T00:31:38 < Cracki> because of muh russia perhaps 2018-06-05T00:32:00 < Cracki> or jokes could harm someone's feels 2018-06-05T00:32:16 < Steffanx> Cracki is Blaxter confirmes 2018-06-05T00:32:24 < Cracki> who's that 2018-06-05T00:33:07 < Steffanx> Dr. Blaxter 2018-06-05T00:33:47 < Steffanx> Dont fool me. You kniw who that is. 2018-06-05T00:35:07 < Cracki> I can't confirm that. 2018-06-05T00:35:35 -!- effractu1 is now known as effractur 2018-06-05T00:35:40 < Steffanx> Lawrence Blaxter you know the guy 2018-06-05T00:36:19 < Cracki> babby shakker! 2018-06-05T00:36:35 < Cracki> who gives a fuck about surnames 2018-06-05T00:36:50 < Steffanx> Idk. 2018-06-05T00:37:50 < Cracki> I kept thinking "who, H.P. Baxxter?" 2018-06-05T00:38:32 < Cracki> ah, I just watched a lovely video of paris! so... vibrant 2018-06-05T00:38:45 < Steffanx> Back in the time we had the Blaxter ratio. It was the amount of ontopic talk vs offtopic/crap 2018-06-05T00:38:57 < Steffanx> Nowadays we no longer need that name 2018-06-05T00:39:07 < Cracki> go forth and multiply 2018-06-05T00:39:21 < Cracki> I read that as Blaxter *radio* 2018-06-05T00:39:26 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@167.99.34.207] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T00:40:12 < Steffanx> Lol 2018-06-05T00:40:48 < stvn> Full metal jacket: Only sailors and faggots are named Laurence 2018-06-05T00:41:14 < stvn> Good movie 2018-06-05T00:42:11 < Cracki> Apocalypse Now, with Laurence Fishburne 2018-06-05T00:43:25 < Thorn> so apparently China makes 1117 clones that aren't anywhere near datasheet specs 2018-06-05T00:44:02 < Thorn> e.g. if you want 5V from a 1117-5.0 @ 0.5A you better feed it at least 12V(!!!) 2018-06-05T00:44:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d1e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-05T00:44:27 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T00:45:04 < Cracki> heh 2018-06-05T00:45:06 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T00:45:07 < Thorn> they're in Chinese ardweeno nanos for example 2018-06-05T00:45:23 < Thorn> and those breadboard mount psus 2018-06-05T00:45:32 < Cracki> has anyone made some transfer curves for these 1117 clones? 2018-06-05T00:46:18 < Thorn> I've got a few psu/dmm photos from someone who has one, only ~3 data points x 2 Vin values 2018-06-05T00:46:42 < Thorn> (and they're ABSOLUTELY nothing like any 1117 datasheet) 2018-06-05T00:49:05 < Thorn> (5V fixed output) Vin=7V, I=0.417A, Vout=2.573V; Vin=6V, I=0.324A, Vout=2.056V; Vin=5V, I=0.255A, Vout=1.679V 2018-06-05T00:49:07 < Thorn> etc. 2018-06-05T00:50:03 < Thorn> they output far below rated voltage even withe no load 2018-06-05T00:51:20 < Cracki> that is some serious drop 2018-06-05T00:54:30 < stvn> 1117 clones are everywhere 2018-06-05T00:55:07 < stvn> The dirty china 2018-06-05T01:01:33 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T01:01:36 < Laurenceb_> assplosion site is sealed off by da po-lice 2018-06-05T01:01:44 < Laurenceb_> doesnt look good 2018-06-05T01:02:24 < Cracki> assplosion you say 2018-06-05T01:02:53 < BrainDamage> ъ(｀ー´ლ).・ﾟ*｡・.・ﾟ*｡・.・ﾟ*｡・ヽ(ﾟДﾟ,,)ノ 2018-06-05T01:03:23 < stvn> What site 2018-06-05T01:04:56 < Laurenceb_> liveleak 2018-06-05T01:05:18 < Laurenceb_> >when u check liveleak to see why there are police above ur basement lair and liveleak delivers 2018-06-05T01:06:19 < Laurenceb_> https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=91ydc_1528134122 2018-06-05T01:06:34 < Laurenceb_> no everybody knows the location of my lair 2018-06-05T01:06:44 < Laurenceb_> *now 2018-06-05T01:07:53 < stvn> Paedophile crashes car and dad abandons baby -au news 2018-06-05T01:07:58 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-05T01:08:19 < Laurenceb_> Corbin sex dwarf eaten by otters 2018-06-05T01:08:53 < Laurenceb_> https://mobile.twitter.com/thesundaysport/status/645327243254886400 2018-06-05T01:09:41 < Cracki> yellow press is the term, eh? 2018-06-05T01:10:42 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2018-06-05T01:11:31 < Laurenceb_> >wonder why my hot water is glitchy 2018-06-05T01:11:42 < Laurenceb_> >open the thermostat controller 2018-06-05T01:11:50 < Laurenceb_> >guarentee expires 1964 2018-06-05T01:13:48 < Laurenceb_> typical britbong hardware 2018-06-05T01:17:16 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-05T01:18:06 < englishman> PaulFertser: now that you know this truck exists, will you go there? 2018-06-05T01:20:18 < Laurenceb_> f this I'm a gunna hit it with a hammer 2018-06-05T01:21:48 < Laurenceb_> the fr2 pcb probably has cracked solder 2018-06-05T01:29:02 < Laurenceb_> https://twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1003688195119337472 2018-06-05T01:40:36 < Laurenceb_> cant fap to this 2018-06-05T01:40:58 < kakimir> laurencer 2018-06-05T01:42:52 < bitmask> so, what to print first to try out the glass bed 2018-06-05T01:45:51 < kakimir> ? 2018-06-05T01:47:25 < upgrdman> lol https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cvs-michael-feinberg-viagra_us_5b155dcee4b02143b7cecbd0 2018-06-05T01:58:04 < kakimir> I think I have grown bigger during works 2018-06-05T01:58:39 < Cracki> loomer and cernovich... keeping it in the family 2018-06-05T01:58:51 < Cracki> bitmask, print a phallus 2018-06-05T02:00:02 < Cracki> I wonder if that feinberg is the same feinberg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Feinberg 2018-06-05T02:01:44 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-144-208.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T02:07:24 < mawk> what components start with F ? 2018-06-05T02:09:53 < Cracki> fuse 2018-06-05T02:10:10 < Cracki> fffflux compensator 2018-06-05T02:10:15 < mawk> ffffffff 2018-06-05T02:10:25 < Cracki> or flux capacitor, depending on translation 2018-06-05T02:10:47 < mawk> I've got a chinese counterfeit of that thing: https://www.seeedstudio.com/gprs-shield-p-779.html 2018-06-05T02:10:58 < mawk> and it's not following the exact same schematics 2018-06-05T02:11:12 < mawk> so I'm following paths on the pcb to see what goes where 2018-06-05T02:11:34 < Cracki> F goes where?! 2018-06-05T02:11:56 < mawk> next to the 9V plug 2018-06-05T02:13:39 < mawk> which is actually a 5V plug 2018-06-05T02:13:41 < mawk> which is dumb 2018-06-05T02:15:26 < Cracki> the spiders in my home are slackers. 2018-06-05T02:15:54 < Cracki> tons of flying things and hardly a web in sight 2018-06-05T02:30:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T02:36:13 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T02:37:52 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T03:15:36 < Laurenceb_> lel mumsnet is raiding 8chan again 2018-06-05T03:18:06 < Laurenceb_> > “I became monstrously posh as a child. My dad, who was Canadian, would say: ‘You sound like an asshole.’ And I’d just say: ‘Oh, Papa, why do you speak of me in such ill tones?’" 2018-06-05T03:18:22 < Laurenceb_> dis is getting good 2018-06-05T03:32:18 < nn77> ok, so I've compiled one of the gpio demo programs, programmed the nucleo, and can see the waveforms on a scope 2018-06-05T03:32:31 < nn77> lots of jitter in the frequency. 2018-06-05T03:32:38 < nn77> is that expected? 2018-06-05T03:32:53 < dongs> what exactly are you measuring 2018-06-05T03:33:39 < nn77> I have a scope probe on PC8 and I'm running the depo program which just repeatedly sets and unsets the pin. 2018-06-05T03:33:53 < Laurenceb_> https://hackaday.com/2018/06/03/its-unix-on-a-microcontroller/ 2018-06-05T03:33:55 < Laurenceb_> muh f103 2018-06-05T03:34:18 < Thorn> nn77 are you triggering properly 2018-06-05T03:34:46 < nn77> yeah. the center pulse looks nice, the further I get from the trigger the fuzzier it gets. 2018-06-05T03:36:55 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-05T03:37:29 < dongs> nn77: and what is the purpose of such experiment? 2018-06-05T03:37:36 < nn77> https://pasteboard.co/HopoO5I.jpg 2018-06-05T03:37:46 < nn77> dongs, I'm trying to teach myself how to work with the stm32 2018-06-05T03:38:04 < nn77> dongs, I'm coming from an AVR background, and this is all a little overwhelming, but I'm making slow progress. 2018-06-05T03:39:14 < dongs> yeah, but i mean, if you want precise pwm pulses you use a timer 2018-06-05T03:39:29 < dongs> if you want to toggle gpio pin for no reason, tehn timing at that point doesnt matter 2018-06-05T03:39:49 < nn77> OK. I just wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong or expecting more from this demo program. 2018-06-05T03:39:52 < dongs> why it jitters? you probably used cube and you ahve systick and otehr shit running in background 2018-06-05T03:39:55 < nn77> s/more/too much/ 2018-06-05T03:41:28 < nn77> ah, if I take out the multiple pin toggle and just use the while loop, the pulse has much less jitter 2018-06-05T03:43:01 < dongs> < Laurenceb_> https://hackaday.com/2018/06/03/its-unix-on-a-microcontroller/ 2018-06-05T03:43:04 < dongs> much autism 2018-06-05T03:43:16 < dongs> instead of using STM32 RTC, he has some homebrew trash made with fagmega88 lol 2018-06-05T03:43:24 < dongs> talking over some bullshit i2c-esque protocol 2018-06-05T03:43:37 < Cracki> wat? "unix" on an atmega? 2018-06-05T03:43:45 < dongs> emulating PDP11 or someshit 2018-06-05T03:43:47 < dongs> useless as fuck 2018-06-05T03:43:48 < Cracki> that thing has kilobytes of ram and tens of kb of flash 2018-06-05T03:43:54 < Cracki> oy 2018-06-05T03:44:02 < Cracki> I can udnerstand a forth on an atmega, that's actually useful 2018-06-05T03:44:24 < dongs> created with latex2web.pl v0.63 © 2006-2018 Joerg Wolfram 2018-06-05T03:44:24 < dongs> haha 2018-06-05T03:44:33 < dongs> he wrote some fucking perl script to output html from his latex shit 2018-06-05T03:44:36 < dongs> def autism 2018-06-05T03:44:48 < Cracki> people use pandoc for that 2018-06-05T03:45:22 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-05T03:45:22 < nn77> the frequency is right at 2.6 MHz. I expected faster since this chip runs much faster (and isn't doing anything else) 2018-06-05T03:45:59 < Cracki> ah you mean an atmega for an rtc... 2018-06-05T03:46:17 < Cracki> wtf 2018-06-05T03:46:48 < Cracki> must be one of those people who want to build a computer from a bag of nand ICs 2018-06-05T03:47:11 < Cracki> at least the floppy on the left side is right side up 2018-06-05T03:48:10 < nn77> "To reconfigure the default setting of SystemInit() function, refer to 2018-06-05T03:48:10 < nn77> system_stm32f0xx.c file" 2018-06-05T03:48:18 < nn77> any idea where to find this thing? I found the .h file for it 2018-06-05T03:48:29 < nn77> I'm using truestudio 2018-06-05T03:48:41 < Cracki> prolly buried in the tool chain 2018-06-05T03:51:56 < nn77> ah, there it is 2018-06-05T03:52:48 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-05T03:54:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T03:58:32 < Thorn> nn77: use a timer in OC mode if you want accurate frequency and duty cycle 2018-06-05T03:59:05 < nn77> So I need to use the HSI to drive the PLL and I do that with the RCC_CR register. 2018-06-05T04:00:22 < nn77> but while system_stm32f3xx.c does it with registers, I should use the stmcube 2018-06-05T04:01:43 < nn77> I need someone on retainer that I can just ask questions and they can answer them for me. 2018-06-05T04:02:09 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/dJrNN2q 2018-06-05T04:09:10 < dongs> did anyone ever figure out what ugly shit software is used to draw apple schematics 2018-06-05T04:10:53 < nn77> RCC_AHBPeriphClockCmd(RCC_AHBPeriph_GPIOC, ENABLE); 2018-06-05T04:12:01 < nn77> so we have to assign a clock to the GPIO C bus in order to toggle pins on and off? Do I understand that correctly? 2018-06-05T04:13:32 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-05T04:13:50 < dongs> no, you need to power the fucking gpioc block before you can use any pins on it 2018-06-05T04:14:49 < nn77> but that's done with GPIO_Init(GPIOC, &GPIO_InitStructure); right? 2018-06-05T04:15:52 < dongs> no 2018-06-05T04:15:57 < dongs> that configures it 2018-06-05T04:16:05 -!- Adluc [Adluc@base48.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-05T04:16:05 < dongs> RCC turns the peripheral on 2018-06-05T04:16:14 < dongs> GPIO_Init configures the pins. 2018-06-05T04:16:24 -!- hulvat [hexo@base48.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T04:22:04 < nn77> ok thanks 2018-06-05T04:46:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-05T04:48:14 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32394.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T04:51:57 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A322F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-05T04:52:46 < nn77> somehow I think I was editing an f0 example and it didn't like the commands I was adding from the f3 HAL 2018-06-05T04:54:18 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T04:56:28 -!- hexo_ [hexo@base48.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T04:57:48 -!- Adluc [Adluc@base48.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T05:12:40 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T05:16:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T05:18:02 -!- Viper-7 [~viper7@ip219.ip-198-50-247.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T05:19:41 < nn77> I'm following the instructions in "Getting started with STM32CubeF3" and it tells me to import the projects and then build but I can't get the build option to be available. 2018-06-05T05:20:24 < nn77> the project explorer shows all the ewarm examples 2018-06-05T05:21:39 < aandrew> nn77: I've never used the IDE, it just makes my life difficult 2018-06-05T05:24:50 < nn77> this is just a mess. I was able to define a build target but now I get a "fatal error: stm32f3xx.h no such file" 2018-06-05T05:31:16 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T05:31:16 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-05T05:31:18 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-05T05:32:04 < nn77> I think I just figured out why I could never find the STM32Cube graphical application 2018-06-05T05:32:52 < nn77> I didn't see that I needed to download more than just STM32Cube_FW_F3_V1.9.0 2018-06-05T05:33:48 < nn77> It's impressive how poorly documented the overall picture is. 2018-06-05T05:34:46 < nn77> how did everyone else here get started? 2018-06-05T05:35:05 < nn77> is it just days of wandering aimlessly and slowly picking up details? 2018-06-05T05:36:39 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T05:41:03 < dongs> i used keil 2018-06-05T05:41:06 < dongs> and had no problems 2018-06-05T05:41:09 < dongs> also i didnt use cubetrash 2018-06-05T05:41:22 < nn77> I know you're more of an atmega guy 2018-06-05T05:41:23 < dongs> unless you need TSC or advanced stuff on F3 that there's no stdepriph, there's no reason to use cube 2018-06-05T05:41:54 < dongs> and even if you do need tsc it only took me like an hour to port and debug 2018-06-05T05:42:48 < nn77> do you have the free version of keil? 2018-06-05T05:44:14 < aandrew> heh 2018-06-05T05:44:31 < aandrew> nah I started with cube almost right out the gate, but used a makefile based system 2018-06-05T05:44:46 < aandrew> cube sets up the I/O and generates teh skeleton (which you don't NEED to do but the clock config is handy) 2018-06-05T05:44:46 < dongs> nn77: if you are targeting F0 its free 2018-06-05T05:44:57 < dongs> i have enough for-money projects that i can afford keil 2018-06-05T05:45:00 < aandrew> then I use the makefile and never run cube again 2018-06-05T05:45:07 < aandrew> dongs: back in japland? 2018-06-05T05:45:09 < dongs> clock config worked just fine wiht excel files 2018-06-05T05:45:12 < dongs> yeah for now 2018-06-05T05:45:20 < aandrew> yes you can absolutely do it manually, did it that way a long time 2018-06-05T05:45:31 < aandrew> now it's just easier to tell it what you want AHB and APB to be and tell it to solve the fucking math 2018-06-05T05:45:34 < dongs> june is mostly free. got some LED expo in best korea end of month 2018-06-05T05:45:48 < aandrew> nice 2018-06-05T05:45:59 < dongs> then july i got a couple things planned, and most of august im gone, 3 different continents 2018-06-05T05:46:09 < aandrew> jesus 2018-06-05T05:46:15 < aandrew> I'm staying pretty close to home this summer 2018-06-05T05:46:23 < aandrew> have a contract in detroit that they want to see me periodically but that's not bad 2018-06-05T05:46:39 < aandrew> every invoice I issue is approved before I even get the confirmation that it was received, it's rare to have a client like that 2018-06-05T05:46:45 < aandrew> I hsould probably get some work done for them. :-) 2018-06-05T05:47:02 < aandrew> my main contract for the last 2.5 years is wrapping up end of this month unless they extend it again 2018-06-05T05:47:14 < aandrew> got a few others in the pipeline but not big 2018-06-05T05:48:10 < dongs> cool 2018-06-05T05:48:43 < dongs> http://www.kcci.com/article/hail-batters-plane-during-flight-leading-to-emergency-landing/21071300 twattered 2018-06-05T05:49:27 < aandrew> wow nasty 2018-06-05T05:49:42 < aandrew> the pilots would be trained IFR though so no real worry if they couldn't see 2018-06-05T05:49:50 < aandrew> still it'd be scary 2018-06-05T05:49:59 < aandrew> actually you did drone shit 2018-06-05T05:50:03 < aandrew> got a question for you regarding compasses 2018-06-05T05:50:36 < aandrew> if I have four different compass modules, my phone and a boy scout compass, I get 6 different fucking headings for north 2018-06-05T05:51:12 < aandrew> maybe not THAT bad but still -- how the fuck do you get a relaible reading out of the damn thing 2018-06-05T05:51:26 < aandrew> the one board if I put it facing north it reads 0deg, good 2018-06-05T05:51:26 < dongs> you don't. 2018-06-05T05:51:33 < dongs> need to calibrate for hard metal stuff or hwatever 2018-06-05T05:51:35 < aandrew> turn it 90 degrees and it measures 87 2018-06-05T05:51:42 < aandrew> turn it anothe r90 and it measures 170 2018-06-05T05:51:46 < aandrew> another and it reads 290 2018-06-05T05:51:53 < aandrew> and one final and you get 0 again 2018-06-05T05:51:59 < aandrew> it's like the axes aren't at 90 degrees 2018-06-05T05:52:00 < dongs> there's something something spherical calibration thing 2018-06-05T05:52:05 < dongs> for mag 2018-06-05T05:52:23 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/design_tip/group0/a2/98/f5/d4/9c/48/4a/d1/DM00286302/files/DM00286302.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00286302.pdf 2018-06-05T05:53:23 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T05:53:43 < aandrew> hm 2018-06-05T05:53:51 < dongs> you have accel there too right? 2018-06-05T05:54:01 < dongs> or just compass? 2018-06-05T05:55:18 < aandrew> have all three actually 2018-06-05T05:55:50 < aandrew> do I ahve to "flatten" the mag readings by looking at the accel vector for gravity 2018-06-05T05:56:18 < aandrew> I suspect that in the air all hell breaks loose, you can't trust accel anymore 2018-06-05T05:56:32 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/FaZM6U85.html i stole this amazing thing somewehre for heading 2018-06-05T05:56:39 < aandrew> if you're turning or accelerating you lose the ability to see gravity 2018-06-05T05:56:45 < dongs> seemef to work back in 2014 2018-06-05T05:58:23 < aandrew> hm 2018-06-05T05:58:28 < aandrew> ok, get accel and mag 2018-06-05T05:58:50 < aandrew> hten you're just averaging the min/max and subtracting it off 2018-06-05T05:58:51 < dongs> i had a simple minmax caalibration thing there, didnt bother with sphere but I d id have sphere code somewehre and i recall it worked allright 2018-06-05T05:58:57 < aandrew> I assume you got the min/max from a calibration step 2018-06-05T05:59:00 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-05T05:59:38 < aandrew> you're cross multipling the mag and accel data? 2018-06-05T06:00:11 < aandrew> wait, accel x mag, then that x accel again 2018-06-05T06:00:25 < aandrew> I gotta brush up on my math 2018-06-05T06:00:37 < dongs> the math is legit, i forgot where i got it from tho 2018-06-05T06:01:00 < aandrew> no I trust you, just trying to refresh my brains on it 2018-06-05T06:01:11 < aandrew> if I remember I did this by summing the squares of the vectors 2018-06-05T06:01:17 < aandrew> er summing the squares of the axes 2018-06-05T06:01:49 < dongs> i think the accel is involved for the purposes of tilt compensation 2018-06-05T06:01:56 < dongs> because by itself mag data is useless for heading 2018-06-05T06:01:57 < aandrew> yeah 2018-06-05T06:02:06 < nn77> I was able to generate a 4.5 mhz clock with GPIOC->ODR ^= GPIO_PIN_8; 2018-06-05T06:02:10 < upgrdman> good idea https://i.redd.it/ti5wat0rb2211.jpg 2018-06-05T06:02:11 < aandrew> ahh yes 2018-06-05T06:02:14 < aandrew> it's coming back to me now 2018-06-05T06:02:26 < aandrew> cross product gives you an orthogonal vector to the two input vectors 2018-06-05T06:02:37 < nn77> I had to go find someone's demo code to figure out gpioc->odr. How would i have learned that normally? 2018-06-05T06:02:47 < aandrew> yes yes 2018-06-05T06:02:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@124-168-239-21.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T06:03:48 < aandrew> mag x accel gives a vector on a plane that is perpendicular to the horizon and also to magnetic north 2018-06-05T06:04:45 < aandrew> then you cross that with accel again to get a vector perpendicular to gravity and mag plane 2018-06-05T06:04:57 < aandrew> with that you have three orthogonal vectors and that's your coordinate system 2018-06-05T06:07:44 < aandrew> dongs: you know what I appreciate about your code? 2018-06-05T06:07:49 < aandrew> you fucking indent like a sane person 2018-06-05T06:08:16 < aandrew> condition SPACE paren clauses paren SPACE OPEN FUCKING BRACE 2018-06-05T06:08:28 < aandrew> INDENT subordinate shit 2018-06-05T06:08:32 < aandrew> OUTDENT CLOSE FUCKING BRACE 2018-06-05T06:09:32 < nn77> I set GPIO_InitStruct.Speed = GPIO_SPEED_FREQ_HIGH; but I still only get a 4.5 mhz clock 2018-06-05T06:09:42 < nn77> it was 4 mhz with gpio_speed_freq_low 2018-06-05T06:10:24 < nn77> according to my STMCube setup, my AHB bus should be 72 mhz 2018-06-05T06:11:26 < aandrew> nn77: all that GPIO_SPEED does is control the drive strength 2018-06-05T06:11:34 < nn77> ok 2018-06-05T06:11:37 < aandrew> nn77: what's your toggle loop look like 2018-06-05T06:11:57 < nn77> while (1) gpioc->odr ^= gpio_pin_8 2018-06-05T06:12:29 < aandrew> well, compile with -Os to start 2018-06-05T06:12:44 < aandrew> but you will want to use the toggle register instead to make it faster 2018-06-05T06:12:59 < nn77> I am -Os 2018-06-05T06:14:26 < nn77> I'm mostly trying to understand what is going on. On the AVR, something like this would toggle a pin at about 1/4 system clock speed. 2018-06-05T06:15:59 < nn77> My real task will be to send out a set of clocks and get data back. On the AVR I would set the output pin high, wait a short delay, read the input pin, wait a short delay, set the output pin low, wait two short delays 2018-06-05T06:16:02 < aandrew> ok. I'd try gpioc->bsrrh = (1 << bit); gpioc->bsrrl = (1 << bit) in a loop but that still won't do it 2018-06-05T06:16:09 < nn77> and repeat until I had enough bits 2018-06-05T06:16:36 < aandrew> sure, but why are you bit banging it 2018-06-05T06:17:24 < nn77> 'GPIO_TypeDef {aka struct }' has no member named 'BSRRH'; did you mean 'BSRR'? 2018-06-05T06:17:33 < nn77> aandrew, because I don't know of any other way to do it. 2018-06-05T06:17:40 < aandrew> is it SPI? 2018-06-05T06:18:00 < aandrew> I'm on stm32h7, I might have different regs 2018-06-05T06:18:01 < nn77> It's something custom 2018-06-05T06:18:09 < aandrew> but I thought all stm32s had this 2018-06-05T06:18:10 < aandrew> nn77: ahh 2018-06-05T06:18:17 < aandrew> well in that case you're likely doing it right 2018-06-05T06:18:24 < aandrew> not sure why it's so slow though 2018-06-05T06:19:16 < nn77> I guess I could just SPI enough bytes until I have what I need. The target will ignore extra clocks 2018-06-05T06:20:56 < nn77> I see HAL_GPIO_PIN_SET in the hal manual 2018-06-05T06:21:34 < aandrew> yes 2018-06-05T06:21:41 < aandrew> you can also just look at the header files (that's what i usually do) 2018-06-05T06:21:46 < aandrew> and toggle is doing exaclty what you were doing 2018-06-05T06:23:05 < aandrew> you can try this first before you go too far 2018-06-05T06:23:10 < nn77> HAL_GPIO_WritePin(GPIOC, 8, GPIO_PIN_SET); didn't seem to do anything 2018-06-05T06:23:19 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:19 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:20 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:20 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:20 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:23 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:25 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:28 < aandrew> gpioc->odr ^= (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:32 < aandrew> er sorry that's gonna be slow 2018-06-05T06:23:42 < aandrew> gpioc->odr = (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:45 < aandrew> gpioc->odr = 0; 2018-06-05T06:23:46 < aandrew> gpioc->odr = (1 << 8); 2018-06-05T06:23:46 < aandrew> gpioc->odr = 0; 2018-06-05T06:23:51 < aandrew> etc... see how fast the burst is 2018-06-05T06:24:10 < nn77> oh, HAL_GPIO_WritePin(GPIOC, GPIO_PIN_8, GPIO_PIN_SET); works! It's 1.8 mhz :) 2018-06-05T06:24:17 < aandrew> note that this is affecting all pins on gpioc; you'll have to use bit banding if you want to avoid that but let's see how fast we can get it first 2018-06-05T06:24:58 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-05T06:25:29 < nn77> looks like the while loop really slows things down 2018-06-05T06:25:30 < aandrew> but yeah you can use bsrr too 2018-06-05T06:25:32 < aandrew> that's probably faster 2018-06-05T06:25:37 < aandrew> well not faster, neater 2018-06-05T06:25:42 < aandrew> it's essentially bit banding 2018-06-05T06:25:57 < aandrew> you can put that code in SRAM instead of flash 2018-06-05T06:26:03 < aandrew> which chip is this 2018-06-05T06:26:07 < nn77> that's all over my head 2018-06-05T06:26:23 < aandrew> no worries in a week you'll be pro 2018-06-05T06:26:24 < nn77> OK! if I write a bunch of lines instead of counting on the WHILE loop, I get 36 MHz! 2018-06-05T06:26:53 < nn77> The long delay for While(), is that something a different optimization would fix? 2018-06-05T06:27:05 < aandrew> yes, run out of SRAM or use a chip that has cache 2018-06-05T06:27:18 < nn77> I'm on a Nucleo-64 STM32F303RE 2018-06-05T06:27:19 < aandrew> it sounds like you're getting bit by slow flash performance 2018-06-05T06:28:33 < nn77> how do I run out of sram? 2018-06-05T06:30:45 < aandrew> is there a SCB_EnableICache function for stm32f303? 2018-06-05T06:31:00 < aandrew> I don't have the HAL for F303 handy 2018-06-05T06:31:46 < nn77> doesn't look like it 2018-06-05T06:32:00 < nn77> it's ok, I thought it might just be a setting in truestudio 2018-06-05T06:33:12 < nn77> aandrew, awesome, thank you for your help 2018-06-05T06:35:15 < aandrew> nn77: no worries 2018-06-05T06:35:22 < aandrew> check around for a function with icache in the name 2018-06-05T06:35:33 < nn77> so an SPI, I could configure a USART for synchronous? 2018-06-05T06:35:35 < aandrew> I think at a minimum it'll have tcm or flash accelerator 2018-06-05T06:35:59 < nn77> no icache in the hal documentation 2018-06-05T06:36:37 < nn77> s/could/should/ 2018-06-05T06:40:55 < nn77> I guess this could be considered i2c 2018-06-05T06:41:43 < nn77> I can't set the USART clock or I2C clock to 1 MHz without slowing down all of the other clocks. 2018-06-05T06:45:41 < nn77> oh, I can set the frequency outside of the clock configuration. 2018-06-05T06:56:00 < dongs> < nn77> My real task will be to send out a set of clocks and get data back. On the AVR I would set the output pin high, wait a short delay, read the input pin, wait a short delay, set the output pin low, wait two short delays 2018-06-05T06:56:30 < dongs> on stm you'd use a hardware timer for clock and either gpio, timer or SPI DMA to read the data in. 2018-06-05T06:56:44 < dongs> or maybe do whole thing wiht SPI since you seem to have a clock and data pins. 2018-06-05T06:56:59 < dongs> manually toggling pins is just retarded 2018-06-05T06:57:24 < nn77> part of the problem is the amount of clocks I will need varies 2018-06-05T06:59:57 < dongs> its not like you can't configure timer counter and overflow and shit 2018-06-05T06:59:59 < dongs> thats crazy talk 2018-06-05T07:00:21 < nn77> I'm trying to figure out what nssp mode means 2018-06-05T07:01:41 < nn77> ah, don't need it 2018-06-05T07:01:49 < dongs> i was just gonna say it 2018-06-05T07:06:41 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-05T07:06:50 < nn77> So I can SPI1->something but where do I go to figure out what the valid something is? 2018-06-05T07:07:04 < nn77> the HAL manual has HAL_SPI_Receive 2018-06-05T07:07:28 < dongs> stm32fxxx.h header file, the big one 2018-06-05T07:07:44 < dongs> or you can use a real IDE that autocompletes 2018-06-05T07:08:36 < nn77> spi1 isn't in stm32f3xx.h 2018-06-05T07:08:41 < nn77> oh, you said fxxx 2018-06-05T07:08:57 < dongs> SPI_TypeDef is 2018-06-05T07:09:29 < nn77> this is a small file, I'm looking in the wrong place 2018-06-05T07:09:47 < dongs> it probably links to larger oens depending on the specific part# 2018-06-05T07:11:05 < nn77> I think I found it in stm32f303xe.h 2018-06-05T07:11:18 < dongs> that looks about right 2018-06-05T07:11:59 < dongs> hey there's a new f3cube fw 2018-06-05T07:12:00 < nn77> this looks like just registers 2018-06-05T07:12:04 < dongs> thats what it is. 2018-06-05T07:12:10 < dongs> and? 2018-06-05T07:12:34 < nn77> I'm trying to figure out how to clock data out of something 2018-06-05T07:12:42 < nn77> I don't see anything in this typedef that will do that 2018-06-05T07:12:58 < dongs> ? 2018-06-05T07:13:05 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T07:13:07 < dongs> how to clock what 2018-06-05T07:13:28 < nn77> I need to send out ~40 clock pulses and read the data that comes in 2018-06-05T07:13:53 < dongs> is it not SPI? 2018-06-05T07:13:59 < dongs> what device are you interfacing with 2018-06-05T07:14:13 < nn77> it doesn't use any standard protocol, but I think SPI will work 2018-06-05T07:14:15 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T07:14:25 < nn77> I send clocks and it sets the data on the return line 2018-06-05T07:14:47 < nn77> It's a BiSS-C interface 2018-06-05T07:15:36 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T07:15:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-05T07:15:54 < dongs> according to the internet it is most definitely doable wiht SPI. 2018-06-05T07:16:02 < nn77> ok 2018-06-05T07:16:24 < nn77> so if I want to receive an SPI character, what do I do? 2018-06-05T07:16:29 < nn77> SPI0->receive? 2018-06-05T07:16:48 < nn77> I'm sorry, I'm having a major disconnect with this stuff somewhere. 2018-06-05T07:16:54 < dongs> you configure peripehral in slave mode, send clock to _CLK pin, and read the received shit out from SPIx->DR 2018-06-05T07:17:05 < dongs> oh on F3 the access width of -DR matters 2018-06-05T07:17:10 < dongs> if you are doing 8 or 16bit read. 2018-06-05T07:17:15 < nn77> I set it to 8 2018-06-05T07:17:23 < dongs> yes, but you also have to READ it as 8bit 2018-06-05T07:17:45 < dongs> in stdperiph there was a SPI_ReadData8() or something that does the proper typecasting faggotry. 2018-06-05T07:18:59 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T07:19:00 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-05T07:24:49 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-74-211.bras1.mel11.internode.on.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T07:25:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T07:25:28 < nn77> HAL_SPI_Receive(SPI1, &data, 8, 100); doesn't seem to work 2018-06-05T07:28:07 < dongs> which aprt doesnt owrk 2018-06-05T07:28:08 < nn77> no clock pulses on the scope 2018-06-05T07:28:17 < dongs> why would there be? 2018-06-05T07:28:27 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@124-168-239-21.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-05T07:28:37 < dongs> are you SPI master or slave? 2018-06-05T07:28:41 < nn77> I'm the master 2018-06-05T07:29:13 < dongs> there's probably TransmitReceive() to handle that part. 2018-06-05T07:31:16 < nn77> HAL_SPI_TransmitReceive(SPI1,0xff, &data, 8, 100); no clocks 2018-06-05T07:31:49 < nn77> I don't need to choose a clock for gpioa because I'm using an alternate function, right? 2018-06-05T07:34:16 < nn77> I see __HAL_RCC_GPIOA_CLK_ENABLE(); 2018-06-05T07:35:41 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/PCB-for-graphics-card/ lmao 2018-06-05T07:36:01 < dongs> nn77: i donno with cube youre on your own. i think turning on peripheral and shit makes enough boilerplate init code 2018-06-05T07:38:14 < nn77> I think I need &hspi1 instead of SPI1 2018-06-05T07:38:31 < dongs> are you even looking at your fucking compiler output? 2018-06-05T07:39:26 < dongs> i should bid on that and demand payment in buttcoin, upfront 2018-06-05T07:39:38 < dongs> thhen string him around long enough for shitcoin to lose all value 2018-06-05T07:39:39 < dongs> then refund it 2018-06-05T07:39:52 < nn77> It didn't complain about either of those 2018-06-05T07:40:01 < dongs> bullshit 2018-06-05T07:42:56 < nn77> well, it complains about me making pointer from iteger without cast, but that's about the second argument 2018-06-05T07:44:48 < nn77> well crap, that works 2018-06-05T07:47:13 < nn77> slow but steady progress! 2018-06-05T07:47:18 < nn77> Thanks for the help dongs 2018-06-05T08:19:56 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-05T08:35:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3fe0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T08:41:11 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-66.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T08:58:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-05T08:58:28 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T09:00:35 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-05T09:01:48 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T09:02:36 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-3fe0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T09:02:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3fe0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T09:14:30 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-66.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-05T09:30:36 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-3fe0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-05T09:42:30 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2018-06-05T09:43:38 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T09:47:30 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/MvZwZE17.html lol 2018-06-05T09:53:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T10:03:57 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydc-qt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-05T10:04:33 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-05T10:08:31 < stvn> Good place to shitpost 2018-06-05T10:11:29 < Steffanx> The stvn knows. 2018-06-05T10:13:41 < stvn> Hi again Bennett 2018-06-05T10:14:03 < stvn> Let off some steam 2018-06-05T10:15:52 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T10:19:20 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T10:20:32 < Steffanx> Who the f. Is bennet 2018-06-05T10:20:34 < Steffanx> T 2018-06-05T10:25:36 < stvn> idk 2018-06-05T10:40:09 < kakimir> sound like meme 2018-06-05T10:41:29 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T10:41:33 -!- Jak_o_Ombroj [~Jak@58.175.241.176] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T10:42:50 < stvn> Memememes 2018-06-05T10:52:11 -!- arha_ [~temp@188.26.94.253] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T10:52:54 -!- arha [~temp@188.25.167.183] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T10:54:21 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - https://znc.in] 2018-06-05T10:55:05 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T10:56:01 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T10:56:27 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T10:59:10 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T11:11:38 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T11:15:19 < dongs> haha new feature of fagos 10.14: dark mode 2018-06-05T11:15:23 < dongs> fuck, death to hipsters 2018-06-05T11:17:05 < stvn> Oh macos 2018-06-05T11:17:39 < stvn> I thought maybe u were going on an Ubuntu rant before I read the digits 2018-06-05T11:19:03 < BrainDamage> didn't they deprecated opengl and opencl ? 2018-06-05T11:20:36 < BrainDamage> and since to my knowledge they have their own proprietary api, unlike vulkan, shit targeting osx will now need fully custom rendering code 2018-06-05T11:20:56 < BrainDamage> how to shoot yourself in the foot 2018-06-05T11:21:01 < dongs> good thing nobody actually gives a shit about osx 2018-06-05T11:21:24 < dongs> typical apple dweeb has all the default apple iApps installed 2018-06-05T11:21:25 < dongs> and nothing else 2018-06-05T11:21:44 < dongs> their entire day is spent staring at apple.com in safari waiting for new versionf of iWatch, iOs, iPhone etc to come out 2018-06-05T11:21:47 < dongs> so they can click buy it now 2018-06-05T11:21:51 < day> hey dongs, wanna see something that you will most likely enjoy? 2018-06-05T11:21:59 < dongs> lets see 2018-06-05T11:22:01 < day> thats what kicads gerber viewer shows me https://i.imgur.com/4CLglXx.png . And this is what theirs shows them: https://imgur.com/a/sfV0rgU 2018-06-05T11:22:13 < day> my design got rejected due to errors i dont see in kicad 2018-06-05T11:22:22 < dongs> kikecad 2018-06-05T11:22:25 < dongs> good1 2018-06-05T11:22:40 < dongs> so the problem seems to be drilling 2018-06-05T11:22:49 < dongs> trace looks correct scale 2018-06-05T11:22:51 < day> yeah. the holes in their viewer appear bigger 2018-06-05T11:22:56 < dongs> but holea re too big 2018-06-05T11:22:59 < day> but it doesnt make sense 2018-06-05T11:23:12 < dongs> maybe kikecad has some option like "consider plating during hole drilling" 2018-06-05T11:24:14 < day> will do another check of the drilloptions later on. but the error doesnt show up in the kicad gerber viewer either. so yeah... 2018-06-05T11:24:36 < day> same gerber files -> different viewers -> different results 2018-06-05T11:25:45 < dongs> kikecad used to output gerbrs that confused CAM350 autoloader 2018-06-05T11:25:53 < dongs> bceause it added some commetns at the top 2018-06-05T11:25:59 < dongs> with opensores crumbs 2018-06-05T11:26:27 < srk> so it broke your pro tool? 2018-06-05T11:26:27 < srk> aww 2018-06-05T11:27:07 < srk> maybe pro tools will learn parsing comments one day 2018-06-05T11:27:23 < Steffanx> Are comments part of the spec? 2018-06-05T11:28:39 < srk> yes iir 2018-06-05T11:28:39 < srk> c 2018-06-05T11:28:55 < srk> there's a pretty nice spec by ucamco 2018-06-05T11:29:45 < dongs> ya commentsa re spec. 2018-06-05T11:29:49 < dongs> it only affected autodetect 2018-06-05T11:29:56 < dongs> it was loading htem up as .txt files or something 2018-06-05T11:29:59 < dongs> cuz of crap in comments. 2018-06-05T11:30:03 < dongs> normal load was ok 2018-06-05T11:32:24 < day> did you work with this "frontline genesis 2000" before? 2018-06-05T11:32:46 < dongs> no, i think thats for actual pcb fabs 2018-06-05T11:33:02 < day> yeah it is some preproduction tool 2018-06-05T11:36:57 < dongs> im gonna guess kikcad output is shit tho. 2018-06-05T11:37:05 < dongs> out of all the possible choices of things being wrong 2018-06-05T11:38:24 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.66.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T11:40:42 < srk> total shit, none of the pcbs made by pcbway for us had any issues 2018-06-05T11:44:47 < day> ironically the board is just a new revision of something they flawlessly produced in the past ^_^" 2018-06-05T11:45:15 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T11:47:43 < srk> day: maybe try this reference viewer as well https://gerber.ucamco.com/ 2018-06-05T11:49:59 < day> srk: will give that a try 2018-06-05T12:11:18 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T12:11:51 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-05T12:13:57 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-05T12:16:33 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T12:40:12 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-05T13:47:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-05T13:55:39 -!- Jak_o_Ombroj [~Jak@58.175.241.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T13:55:43 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T14:09:24 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T14:09:40 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T14:14:30 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T14:50:16 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiEGYF2BwHQ 2018-06-05T14:50:18 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-05T14:50:28 < Laurenceb> literal Bernie rage face 2018-06-05T15:02:15 < Laurenceb> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5806103/Respected-MSU-physicist-facing-15-years-jail-sodomizing-basset-hound.html 2018-06-05T15:05:56 < Streaker> 15 years? was it not consensual? 2018-06-05T15:06:44 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-05T15:06:47 < Laurenceb> >muricans 2018-06-05T15:13:11 < Laurenceb> >muh freedomz 2018-06-05T15:13:23 < Laurenceb> >2 years in jail for open can of beer 2018-06-05T15:13:36 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T15:19:42 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T15:31:07 < Laurenceb> https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CSUzv_1528181489 2018-06-05T16:16:20 < englishman> charging @ 50kW 2018-06-05T16:16:35 < englishman> this shit is so cool 2018-06-05T16:16:49 < englishman> I wonder how much power flows through a gas nozzle while filling 2018-06-05T16:17:08 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-05T16:17:50 < tpw_rules> way way more 2018-06-05T16:18:10 < BrainDamage> approximately ~10MW 2018-06-05T16:18:41 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-05T16:18:45 < BrainDamage> gas is 30MJ/L and pumps typically do 1/3 L/s 2018-06-05T16:18:58 < englishman> cool 2018-06-05T16:19:11 < englishman> too bad car throw it all out thru the tailpipe and radiator 2018-06-05T16:19:54 < BrainDamage> ehh, electric cars have their inefficiencies too, you've just relocated the hot exaust at the power plant 2018-06-05T16:20:26 < tpw_rules> they're getting almost to 50% thermal efficiency 2018-06-05T16:20:28 < englishman> and relocated the energy source from: dead dinosaurs in sand to water flowing down a hill 2018-06-05T16:20:52 < BrainDamage> yeah, power plants can be more efficient, and not located near your home 2018-06-05T16:21:16 < englishman> plus when the electricity pipeline leaks it's much less severe of a problem 2018-06-05T16:21:18 < tpw_rules> (cars are) 2018-06-05T16:21:43 < Laurenceb> with uk electricity, tesla is same CO2 as a new conventional car 2018-06-05T16:21:59 < englishman> Laurent aren't you using outdated numbers now 2018-06-05T16:22:05 < tpw_rules> fortunately US is worse :D 2018-06-05T16:22:07 < Laurenceb> yeah its got slightly better now 2018-06-05T16:22:09 < englishman> pretty sure UK is burning a lot less coal now 2018-06-05T16:22:11 < Laurenceb> coal is going down 2018-06-05T16:22:12 < englishman> yea 2018-06-05T16:22:19 < Laurenceb> but its still pretty shit 2018-06-05T16:22:30 < Laurenceb> less than 20% better than conventional 2018-06-05T16:22:46 < englishman> yeah but what do you want. English ppl need electricity so they can buy knives online 2018-06-05T16:22:55 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-05T16:25:37 < BrainDamage> i bought my swiss army knife online 2018-06-05T16:26:18 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T16:26:34 < Laurenceb> not in uk u didnt 2018-06-05T16:27:01 < Laurenceb> luckily RS is nearby so I can pick up b& stuff 2018-06-05T16:27:14 < zyp> englishman, actually getting 50 kW? 2018-06-05T16:27:19 < BrainDamage> ofc not in uk 2018-06-05T16:28:21 < kakimir> 1V / 300ns 2018-06-05T16:28:32 < kakimir> is that fast slew rate or slow 2018-06-05T16:29:35 < day> not fast enough to please audiophiles :^) 2018-06-05T16:29:47 < BrainDamage> depends, what's your max freq and voltage? 2018-06-05T16:29:59 -!- enh [~enhering@128-paricarana.ufrr.br] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T16:30:11 < kakimir> is boot circuit en pin 2018-06-05T16:30:25 < kakimir> I wonder if I add capacitance to it 2018-06-05T16:30:29 < kakimir> it works just fine 2018-06-05T16:30:36 < kakimir> but has pretty much no capacitance 2018-06-05T16:31:18 < BrainDamage> yeah, then you don't give a shit 2018-06-05T16:31:29 < BrainDamage> even V/ms would work 2018-06-05T16:31:51 < kakimir> nothing directly driving it 2018-06-05T16:32:08 < kakimir> strongest driver has 47k series resitance to it 2018-06-05T16:32:30 < kakimir> and there is pull down like 168k 2018-06-05T16:32:38 < kakimir> so I fear glitches a bit 2018-06-05T16:33:34 < kakimir> I just simulate what different caps would do 2018-06-05T16:37:56 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T16:38:40 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/rB5C42T 2018-06-05T16:42:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-05T16:42:27 < aandrew> lol Laurenceb 2018-06-05T16:43:12 < Laurenceb> tfw https://imgur.com/yd0ibpI 2018-06-05T16:43:25 < Laurenceb> the internet police 2018-06-05T16:44:27 < englishman> zyp: pretty close, the charge station shows voltage and dc current, 384@120A, so around 46kW 2018-06-05T16:44:39 < zyp> ah, neat 2018-06-05T16:44:46 < englishman> then i got bored and did other stuff 2018-06-05T16:44:52 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/sE7jnKt they are not impressed by my shitposting 2018-06-05T16:44:58 < englishman> i think this app logs all that 2018-06-05T16:44:59 < zyp> which brand/model of charge station? 2018-06-05T16:45:09 < englishman> addenergie, a local company 2018-06-05T16:45:19 < englishman> same ones making the flo x5 2018-06-05T16:45:39 < englishman> https://addenergietechnologies.com/en/smartdc/ 2018-06-05T16:45:40 < englishman> this one 2018-06-05T16:46:14 < zyp> ah, okay 2018-06-05T16:46:20 < zyp> chademo only? 2018-06-05T16:47:13 < englishman> CCS on the other side 2018-06-05T16:47:24 < zyp> ah 2018-06-05T16:47:33 < englishman> only one at a time of course 2018-06-05T16:47:43 < zyp> yeah, most chargers here are like that too 2018-06-05T16:49:12 < zyp> only exception I've seen is one that can do 100kW or something, it can also be split into doing 50kW on both ccs and chademo at the same time too 2018-06-05T16:49:29 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/35O9Qfx 2018-06-05T16:49:31 < englishman> requires 100A 480Y service 2018-06-05T16:49:38 < englishman> cool 2018-06-05T16:50:13 < zyp> http://www.charge-ultra-fast.com/en/ <- one of these 2018-06-05T16:50:53 < englishman> neato 2018-06-05T16:51:36 < zyp> haha, I wonder if there's only seven of them installed in the world: http://www.charge-ultra-fast.com/en/References-534.htm 2018-06-05T16:52:21 < zyp> the one I were thinking of is the one in Vestby 2018-06-05T16:52:44 < zyp> I've seen the one in Grelland as well, but it requires a stupidly priced annual subscription for access, so nobody uses that one 2018-06-05T16:53:22 < zyp> and a competitor has two decently priced ones 50 meters away from it :p 2018-06-05T16:55:16 < zyp> oh, hey, that operator went bankrupt and got acquired half a year ago, didn't know that 2018-06-05T16:55:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T17:03:12 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T17:12:51 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T17:29:44 < bitmask> wut wut, in the butt 2018-06-05T17:31:01 < Steffanx> I dont want to know what you 3d printed 2018-06-05T17:31:30 < bitmask> butt plugs for everyone! 2018-06-05T17:31:52 < Steffanx> *egg scuplture 2018-06-05T17:32:03 < bitmask> :) 2018-06-05T17:32:19 < BrainDamage> the world needs a parametric dildo modeler 2018-06-05T17:32:27 < bitmask> there already is one 2018-06-05T17:32:55 < BrainDamage> that website doesn't allow to export the shape 2018-06-05T17:33:01 < bitmask> oh, whats it for then? 2018-06-05T17:33:21 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-05T17:33:24 < BrainDamage> you can only order it from them - you've already linked it previous btw 2018-06-05T17:33:27 < bitmask> ohhhh 2018-06-05T17:33:35 < bitmask> it wasnt me 2018-06-05T17:33:38 < bitmask> I was here though 2018-06-05T17:34:53 < BrainDamage> ofc there needs to be the onahole version too, but 3d printers can't handle silicone gel to my knowledge, yet 2018-06-05T17:36:49 < srk> dildogenerator 2018-06-05T17:36:57 < srk> quite old :) 2018-06-05T17:37:45 < Haohmaru> custom dildos? 2018-06-05T17:37:46 < srk> BrainDamage: you just print a form to pour sillicone into 2018-06-05T17:37:52 < Haohmaru> that can't be good 2018-06-05T17:37:57 < Haohmaru> who's gonna "debug" them? 2018-06-05T17:38:24 < Haohmaru> it ain't gon' be me! 2018-06-05T17:39:07 < BrainDamage> srk: might as well order it at that point 2018-06-05T17:39:47 < srk> where's the fun in that 2018-06-05T17:39:51 < BrainDamage> unless you require multiple copies out of your mold 2018-06-05T17:41:02 < bitmask> they have kits to make your own dildo 2018-06-05T17:41:10 < bitmask> I was gonna try it for my gf 2018-06-05T17:41:20 < bitmask> but ended up not doing 2018-06-05T17:41:36 < srk> some issues with balls? :D 2018-06-05T17:41:58 < Haohmaru> "instructions unclear.." 2018-06-05T17:42:26 < bitmask> psh who has multiple balls? not i 2018-06-05T17:42:46 < Haohmaru> u got one? 2018-06-05T17:42:51 < bitmask> yea 2018-06-05T17:42:54 < Haohmaru> o_O 2018-06-05T17:43:00 < bitmask> cancer took the other 2018-06-05T17:43:06 < Haohmaru> O_o 2018-06-05T17:43:23 -!- enh [~enhering@128-paricarana.ufrr.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-05T17:43:25 < Haohmaru> ouch :/ 2018-06-05T17:43:29 < srk> just print a spare 2018-06-05T17:43:33 < bitmask> hah 2018-06-05T17:43:45 < bitmask> yea its not a big deal, the one is fine 2018-06-05T17:43:49 < srk> few years later .. :D 2018-06-05T17:43:50 < Haohmaru> one does not simply print a ball 2018-06-05T17:43:54 < srk> -//- 2018-06-05T17:44:19 < srk> "man got his balls replaced by 3d printed backups" 2018-06-05T17:47:20 < Haohmaru> an artificial ball would only cause inconvenience if not done "right" 2018-06-05T17:48:21 < srk> haha 2018-06-05T17:48:29 < Haohmaru> i ain't kidding 2018-06-05T17:49:03 < Haohmaru> if it doesn't have the right consistency (if it's too hard) then it gonna crush into the other one often 2018-06-05T17:49:39 < Haohmaru> you know why one of them is always hanging lower than the other one right? 2018-06-05T17:50:14 < Haohmaru> this is turning into #thephysicsofballs 2018-06-05T17:51:10 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T17:51:53 -!- enh [~enhering@128-paricarana.ufrr.br] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T17:54:55 < nn77> that's more of a sack problem, I think. 2018-06-05T17:57:39 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:00:11 -!- enh [~enhering@128-paricarana.ufrr.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-05T18:01:59 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:02:02 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-05T18:10:41 -!- Sagiftw [c073872b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.115.135.43] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:10:52 < Sagiftw> Hello. I'm trying to transmit a message over UART and read the response. The message is transmitted successfully, but the code loops forever when I'm waiting for the response (i.e. HAL_UART_GetState keeps returning HAL_UART_STATE_BUSY_RX) . What could be the problem? https://pastebin.com/AXjEH7i6 2018-06-05T18:16:49 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:19:07 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.66.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T18:19:57 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.66.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:24:10 < zyp> Sagiftw, is the answer 10 bytes? 2018-06-05T18:24:26 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T18:25:21 < Sagiftw> zyp: Even shorter (6 or 8) 2018-06-05T18:29:56 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-05T18:33:51 < englishman> PIC chip revision isnt printed on the chip 2018-06-05T18:33:55 < englishman> it's in some internal register 2018-06-05T18:33:57 < englishman> fuckign PIC 2018-06-05T18:34:54 < zyp> Sagiftw, then that's obviously the problem 2018-06-05T18:35:09 < zyp> your code is waiting for ten bytes to be received 2018-06-05T18:35:16 < zyp> i.e. for the buffer to fill up 2018-06-05T18:35:24 < englishman> ha, there is new errata in new chip versions, that doesnt affect old chip versions 2018-06-05T18:36:56 < Steffanx> Dont talk about PIC please. 2018-06-05T18:37:10 < Steffanx> Already sad enough i had to use it at work 2018-06-05T18:37:27 < Sagiftw> zyp: Any number below does not work :( 2018-06-05T18:37:46 < Sagiftw> zyp: But when I'm entering a number below 9 I get hardfault error 2018-06-05T18:38:03 < englishman> no wonder everyone quit 2018-06-05T18:38:15 < Steffanx> It was just me englishman 2018-06-05T18:38:43 < Steffanx> Crappy legacy project 2018-06-05T18:38:52 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:38:52 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-05T18:38:52 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:39:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-05T18:50:56 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-adjpasvqgmragpoe] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T18:52:03 < Streake_> STM32 is cellphone MCU. PIC is from mainframe computer. PIC > STM32 2018-06-05T18:54:18 < Laurenceb> Streake_: #pedolivesmatter 2018-06-05T18:54:28 < day> srk: are you still around? 2018-06-05T18:55:09 < day> srk: could my issue be caused by havin plated and non plated holes in one file? i.e. they assume they are all plated, therefore appear bigger in their viewer 2018-06-05T18:57:04 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T19:16:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T19:18:53 < Laurenceb> day: if you are sending gerber files its very simple 2018-06-05T19:19:08 < Laurenceb> there are just hole locations and diameters in the actual file 2018-06-05T19:19:25 < Laurenceb> anything else would be their software doing modifications 2018-06-05T19:19:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T19:19:59 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T19:20:13 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T19:24:03 < day> i see 2018-06-05T19:30:11 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-05T19:36:31 < nn77> Some houses require plated and non-plated to be in separate files 2018-06-05T19:44:22 < aandrew> I always provide two drill files for that purpose 2018-06-05T19:45:46 < Thorn> I once sent 2 drill files to seeed and they ignored the npth one 2018-06-05T19:48:44 < aandrew> lol 2018-06-05T19:49:06 < aandrew> my .zip always has a README which describes the project, describes each file in the .zip etc etc 2018-06-05T19:49:18 < aandrew> won't help against a factory that refuses to read but it helps a lot 2018-06-05T19:49:29 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-05T19:52:36 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800fdad003d2b1025886c7cb4.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T19:55:21 < antto> i've not had issues with kicad gerbers once i found the "magical" export settings 2018-06-05T20:09:15 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-05T20:17:44 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydvbrt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T20:22:26 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kL7qDeI05U 2018-06-05T20:24:43 -!- Sagiftw [c073872b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.115.135.43] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2018-06-05T20:34:00 < Drzacek> Hi 2018-06-05T20:34:33 < Drzacek> what is the proper way to get us delay on stm32f1xx? I got HAL_Delay() function from cubemx, but it only does ms 2018-06-05T20:43:09 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::eac0] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T20:43:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@50-251-203-155-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T20:48:54 < Hamilton> Anyone know how can I debug a direct UART to DMA transfer? I want to halt the mcu when it is transferring 2018-06-05T20:49:07 < nn77> I was able to generate a PWM signal but the jitter is pretty bad 2018-06-05T20:49:49 < nn77> sometimes the duty cycle will change by 40%! 2018-06-05T20:53:38 < nn77> ah, putting the pwm_start in the while loop was a bad idea 2018-06-05T21:00:22 < Hamilton> Can it even be interrupted? since DMA does not involve the core? 2018-06-05T21:04:59 < Hamilton> lol! I even paused in debug and mcu is stopped at an instruction but DMA<->UART *still* works! 2018-06-05T21:07:52 < zyp> well, duh, it's DMA 2018-06-05T21:08:08 < Hamilton> Howeven, if I reset EN bit of the channel, it stops, but when I set in again, it won't restat 2018-06-05T21:10:17 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-05T21:10:34 < Hamilton> zyp, But how can you halt something that is not controlled by the processor? 2018-06-05T21:14:33 < zyp> look at the debug freeze registers 2018-06-05T21:15:22 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T21:17:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@50-251-203-155-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-05T21:21:43 < aandrew> Drzacek: depends on your delay requirements 2018-06-05T21:21:50 < aandrew> if you need precision use a timer and interrupt 2018-06-05T21:22:09 < aandrew> if blocking is okay, you can use the cycle counter to perform accurate small delays 2018-06-05T21:22:21 < Drzacek> I'm trying to do counter 2018-06-05T21:22:26 < Drzacek> not sure if it can do us 2018-06-05T21:22:34 < aandrew> I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to worry about that though, and I've been at this for close to 25 years now 2018-06-05T21:22:35 < Drzacek> prescaler 72 2018-06-05T21:22:37 < Drzacek> period 1 2018-06-05T21:23:59 < Steffanx> How many fingers do you have aandrew? 2018-06-05T21:24:42 < Drzacek> Steffanx, dude 2018-06-05T21:27:21 < Steffanx> Drzacek, dude. 2018-06-05T21:28:12 < Steffanx> What do you want to delay Drzacek? 2018-06-05T21:29:01 < Drzacek> time 2018-06-05T21:29:12 < Steffanx> but why. 2018-06-05T21:29:15 < Drzacek> dht22 2018-06-05T21:29:32 < Drzacek> it needs short pulses to activate 2018-06-05T21:30:10 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-7.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T21:32:15 < zyp> Drzacek, doing it that way doesn't make sense, use prescaler 1 and period 72 2018-06-05T21:32:29 < Drzacek> zyp, makes sense 2018-06-05T21:36:43 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T21:39:57 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-05T21:40:35 < aandrew> Steffanx: LOL! 2018-06-05T21:40:54 < aandrew> Steffanx: I'm talking about *just* precise delays, not for timing or in a loop for clocking or something 2018-06-05T21:41:13 < aandrew> 99 times out of a hundred equipment just doesn't give a shit what the clock is 2018-06-05T21:41:21 < aandrew> some protocols are clock sensitive (ws2812 shits for example) 2018-06-05T21:41:32 < aandrew> IIRC 1w is also like that 2018-06-05T21:41:35 < Thorn> I'm receiving a data packet over rs-485 and find that the frame error flag is set. what to I do? should I discard all received data immediately? 2018-06-05T21:42:06 < aandrew> Thorn: what I do in my low level UART ISR is discard the character and flag that an error was received for teh higher level code 2018-06-05T21:42:27 < Drzacek> damn 2018-06-05T21:42:30 < Drzacek> doesn't work 2018-06-05T21:42:30 < aandrew> the fifo_get() can return the state of that flag and then I ahve an explicit call to clear it 2018-06-05T21:42:38 < Thorn> do you still process the packet? and what does the high level code do 2018-06-05T21:42:40 < Drzacek> but have to go, try to debug tomorrow 2018-06-05T21:42:42 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800fdad003d2b1025886c7cb4.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T21:42:45 < Thorn> with the error flag 2018-06-05T21:42:52 < aandrew> Thorn: depends. most times the protocol has a crc or something and that will fail 2018-06-05T21:45:03 < Thorn> I mean if you throw away a data byte you might as well throw away the whole buffer (and set the 'skip the rest' flag if the packet is delimited by an idle interval like in modbus) 2018-06-05T21:46:07 < aandrew> yes, it's implementation specific 2018-06-05T21:46:19 < aandrew> which is why my low level code flags it and leaves it to the higher layer to make the decision 2018-06-05T21:46:48 < aandrew> same idea with parity error if you're doing parity 2018-06-05T21:48:50 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-05T21:50:02 < Thorn> ok what do i do with the noise flag lol 2018-06-05T21:51:02 < Thorn> modbus has error counters that the master can query 2018-06-05T21:51:22 < Thorn> I guess I can do a similar thing to gather link quality statistics 2018-06-05T22:04:19 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T22:04:21 < aandrew> yep 2018-06-05T22:04:58 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T22:05:40 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-31b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T22:10:16 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88OJS00CK2g 2018-06-05T22:21:41 < nn77> where can I find a list of the hal tim irq handlers? 2018-06-05T22:24:31 < nn77> Google searches keep leading me to functions that my compiler doesn't recognize. 2018-06-05T22:29:32 < nn77> HAL_TIM_OC_Start_IT(&htim1, TIM_CHANNEL_1); 2018-06-05T22:29:36 < nn77> HAL_NVIC_SetPriority(TIM1_CC_IRQn, 0, 1); 2018-06-05T22:29:40 < nn77> HAL_NVIC_EnableIRQ(TIM1_CC_IRQn); 2018-06-05T22:29:47 < nn77> void HAL_TIM_PeriodElapsedCallback(TIM_HandleTypeDef *htim) 2018-06-05T22:40:47 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@46.248.35.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T22:41:43 -!- Hamilton3 [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::ebcf] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T22:41:51 -!- Hamilton3 [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::ebcf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-05T22:43:59 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::eac0] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-05T22:44:42 < nn77> Ug, I seriously need someone on retainer 2018-06-05T22:45:19 < englishman> there is a handy .chf document included with HAL/LL 2018-06-05T22:45:29 < nn77> oh? 2018-06-05T22:45:50 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@46.248.35.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-05T22:47:33 < nn77> I google for examples and every one I find does things completely different. 2018-06-05T22:49:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-05T22:50:17 < srk> HAL is a joke :) 2018-06-05T22:51:07 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T22:51:28 < nn77> it doesn't help that every person has their own opinion on how to program these things. 2018-06-05T22:51:47 < emeryth> doesn't HAL come with examples for everything? 2018-06-05T22:51:48 < srk> course, it means that provided tooling is a joke :) 2018-06-05T22:52:04 < srk> so everyone uses something different or only parts of HAL 2018-06-05T22:52:17 < srk> libopencm3 is quite nice btw 2018-06-05T22:52:19 < nn77> I just want to timer overflow to call an interrupt 2018-06-05T22:52:26 < nn77> this doesn't seem like something exotic 2018-06-05T22:56:52 < srk> it's all about registers and bits, HAL is just an abstraction for all the bit twiddling you need to do 2018-06-05T22:56:55 < nn77> There is no TIM1_IRQn but there is a TIM1_CC_IRQn 2018-06-05T22:57:01 < stvn> heroin sores 2018-06-05T22:57:02 < srk> that's the same 2018-06-05T22:58:19 < nn77> I found an example which says this 2018-06-05T22:58:20 < nn77> TIM_ITConfig(TIM3, TIM_IT_Update, ENABLE); 2018-06-05T22:58:42 < nn77> the compiler doesn't understand TIM_ITConfig or TIM_IT_Update 2018-06-05T22:59:01 < srk> :D 2018-06-05T22:59:12 < srk> random examples from teh internetz probably not gonna help you 2018-06-05T22:59:19 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::ebcf] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T22:59:29 < nn77> srk, I don't know where else to look 2018-06-05T22:59:39 < nn77> I can't even hire someone to help me 2018-06-05T22:59:59 < Hamilton> zyp, It seems in F1 , there is no debug freeze option for DMA 2018-06-05T23:01:37 < Hamilton> It seems only for timers, watchdog, bxCAN and I2C 2018-06-05T23:02:56 < zyp> you don't need to freeze the dma, it's enough to freeze the UART 2018-06-05T23:03:05 < zyp> but if you can't freeze either, you're out of luck :) 2018-06-05T23:06:50 < Hamilton> zyp, I did google the issue and it seems STM32 line actually does not provide a way to halt DMA's operation 2018-06-05T23:07:15 < Hamilton> So I guess it could be asserted that if I want to use DMA, debugging would be diffuclt 2018-06-05T23:08:12 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-7.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-05T23:12:46 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T23:12:46 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-05T23:12:46 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T23:15:41 < nn77> GXCLHCLUTCLKYTUCDUTUTD57S46SCGJV 2018-06-05T23:18:15 < Steffanx> ty 2018-06-05T23:18:40 < Steffanx> stvn likes cats. what kind of cat do you have nn77? 2018-06-05T23:18:58 < nn77> I have two american shorthairs. 2018-06-05T23:21:30 < nn77> I'll post a high resolution picture of them, yenc'd, to the channel. 2018-06-05T23:21:45 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-05T23:28:14 < nn77> gah, so I have to start the timer and then I have to start it again in IT mode? 2018-06-05T23:28:27 < nn77> HAL_TIM_OC_Start_IT(&htim1, TIM_CHANNEL_1); 2018-06-05T23:28:28 < nn77> HAL_TIM_Base_Start_IT(&htim1); 2018-06-05T23:30:42 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::ebcf] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-05T23:33:18 < Thorn> OC = output compare 2018-06-05T23:33:36 < Thorn> so presumably that function enables a channel in OC mode 2018-06-05T23:33:47 < Thorn> Base = timebase probably 2018-06-05T23:34:10 < Thorn> so you don't start the timer twice 2018-06-05T23:34:36 < Thorn> * you aren't starting 2018-06-05T23:34:51 < nn77> but the timer started working with just the OC_Start command 2018-06-05T23:41:17 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:ad10:5167:8d14:5cf1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T23:45:22 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-05T23:47:15 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-05T23:48:29 < nn77> lots of examples of microsecond delay routines but so far none of them work. 2018-06-05T23:48:42 < nn77> can I just dump a bunch of nop's in? 2018-06-05T23:49:06 < Steffanx> Sure you can 2018-06-05T23:50:08 < Thorn> m$ visual studio now supports gdbservers? https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2018/01/10/debugging-an-embedded-arm-device-in-visual-studio/ 2018-06-05T23:50:42 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T23:53:14 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-05T23:54:18 < Steffanx> Nice. 2018-06-05T23:58:54 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-05T23:59:40 < nn77> the microsecond delay routines based on DWT seem to take forever. --- Day changed Wed Jun 06 2018 2018-06-06T00:00:24 < nn77> stuck in a loop 2018-06-06T00:04:55 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.66.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T00:10:21 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-adjpasvqgmragpoe] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-06T00:14:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-31b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-06T00:22:07 < aandrew> nn77: what're you running around of 2018-06-06T00:22:23 < nn77> s/of/on/? 2018-06-06T00:22:35 < aandrew> the hardest part of starting out is just learning what to look for 2018-06-06T00:23:15 < nn77> aandrew, I'm trying to bit-bang an SPI-like interface. I was looking for an elegant way to delay between pulses. 2018-06-06T00:23:38 < aandrew> nn77: you may want to take a page from my own approach to things: get it working, THEN get it good 2018-06-06T00:23:45 < aandrew> don't try to make it elegant right now 2018-06-06T00:25:09 < aandrew> right now create a txrx_bit(int out, int *in) function. all it does is set the data line, delay, set clk low, delay, set the clock high and read the input pin 2018-06-06T00:25:15 < aandrew> use HAL_Delay(1) for now 2018-06-06T00:25:22 < aandrew> and GPIO_Set/Clear() or whatever 2018-06-06T00:25:41 < aandrew> it'll run dog slow but it'll verify you are bitbanging right 2018-06-06T00:26:05 < aandrew> then make a txrx_byte(uchar tx, uchar *rx) that calls txrx_bit 8 times 2018-06-06T00:26:27 < aandrew> once your basic protocol is wroking, you can now go back to txrx_bit and start being elegant 2018-06-06T00:26:55 < aandrew> you'll be safe in the knowledge that your code work*ED* so anything that stops working is an actual problem and not a "hm did I do the basic shit right" issue 2018-06-06T00:27:33 < aandrew> before long you'll have an DMA based txrx_bit that uses timer to trigger the DMA transfers to pull the bits in and out and you'll have an elegant solution 2018-06-06T00:28:53 < aandrew> but just take it right down to basics to start. get the data transfer working but do it in a way that you can change out the lowest level as your experience grows 2018-06-06T00:29:06 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-06T00:29:38 < aandrew> if you do it with a custom _bit() routine being driven by a _byte() routine which is likely driven by a _packet() or _frame() routine, your high level code has no need to change and in fact will be clean from all the shitty details that are currently driving you nuts 2018-06-06T00:33:05 < nn77> Thanks for the advice! 2018-06-06T00:35:43 < aandrew> good luck. I have a feeling I'll be around a while tonight 2018-06-06T00:39:34 < nn77> I may be begging you for help 2018-06-06T00:39:38 < nn77> or offering bribes 2018-06-06T00:44:07 < aandrew> heh 2018-06-06T00:44:47 < aandrew> just start by creating a routine that transmits (or receives or both) a single bit with the appropriate delays for one bit 2018-06-06T00:45:06 < aandrew> you have all the HAL calls to do that right now in super slow mode 2018-06-06T00:45:43 < aandrew> HAL_GPIO_WritePin(), HAL_GPIO_ReadPin() and HAL_Delay() 2018-06-06T00:46:23 < nn77> I have the chip running now sending a burst of 500 khz clocks every millisecond. Looking pretty good. 2018-06-06T00:54:37 < aandrew> great, so now you probably want to replace HAL_Delay() 2018-06-06T00:55:08 < aandrew> a really simple way to do it (not elegant yet) would be to set up a timer with an interrupt of say every 75us or something 2018-06-06T00:55:24 < aandrew> all the ISR does is set a volatile bool flag true 2018-06-06T00:55:26 < aandrew> that's it 2018-06-06T00:56:08 < nn77> I'm not using HAL_Delay, I'm using a stack of NOP. HAL_Delay is 1ms resolution but my NOP stack is 1us resolution (that's how I get 500 khz) 2018-06-06T00:56:19 < aandrew> your replacement for hal_delay() does something like do { tick_flag = false; } while (tick_flag); while (! tick_flag) ; 2018-06-06T00:57:05 < aandrew> that'll make your delay routine wait a minimum of 75us, which probably gives you 125us 2018-06-06T00:57:08 < aandrew> oh wait 2018-06-06T00:57:12 < aandrew> ok so you're using nops for now 2018-06-06T00:57:31 < aandrew> how fast is your end goal? what else is your end goal (background task instead of blocking, what) 2018-06-06T00:57:52 < nn77> blocking is fine, the rest of the code is useless until we pull this data in 2018-06-06T00:58:14 < aandrew> what's your target clock rate 2018-06-06T00:58:23 < nn77> I read in data, do some calculations, send a value out, wait for the 1khz timer to trip and we do it again 2018-06-06T01:03:57 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-06T01:04:50 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T01:15:13 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T01:15:53 < kakimir> pump instructor 2018-06-06T01:20:15 < Laurenceb_> if its good enough for me, its good enough for you 2018-06-06T01:20:53 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29SgrIR1yfU 2018-06-06T01:24:46 < kakimir> can you explain 2018-06-06T01:25:12 < kakimir> what is happening in the video 2018-06-06T01:25:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-06T01:25:44 < Laurenceb_> typical britbong activities 2018-06-06T01:25:49 < Laurenceb_> mass conversion to islam 2018-06-06T01:26:43 < kakimir> you concider it alluring? 2018-06-06T01:27:22 < Laurenceb_> >me 2018-06-06T01:27:50 < kakimir> you are broken 2018-06-06T01:30:27 < Laurenceb_> Subterranean masterrace 2018-06-06T01:30:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T01:30:54 < kakimir> you or them? 2018-06-06T01:36:06 < Laurenceb_> me 2018-06-06T01:36:57 < kakimir> tell me how did you surface 2018-06-06T01:37:03 < kakimir> and how long ago 2018-06-06T01:37:04 < kakimir> ? 2018-06-06T01:39:53 < stvn> lol hi Laurence 2018-06-06T01:42:03 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:ad10:5167:8d14:5cf1] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-06T01:43:48 < c4017w__> Can someone please try compiling this?: https://pastebin.com/4KUSZRBt 2018-06-06T01:44:00 < c4017w__> I'm interested in the output of in list.txt 2018-06-06T01:45:50 < Laurenceb_> anyone want to see some BBC porn? 2018-06-06T01:46:01 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/sur5nyt 2018-06-06T01:48:43 < invzim> meh, bootloader not working 2018-06-06T01:49:55 < invzim> any stuff in the "main" app other than setting flash origin in linker script? 2018-06-06T01:50:59 < c4017w__> Reset vector? VTOR? 2018-06-06T01:53:21 < stvn> Hi Laurenceb_ 2018-06-06T01:53:37 < Laurenceb_> Big Black.... Cats 2018-06-06T01:53:44 < stvn> Cool! 2018-06-06T01:53:57 < stvn> Cats are great 2018-06-06T01:54:13 < Thorn> Laurenceb_ why aren't you celebrating https://imgur.com/gallery/cvJxScT 2018-06-06T01:54:39 < stvn> What is that 2018-06-06T01:54:40 < Laurenceb_> ah hero 2018-06-06T01:58:26 < nn77> why would Laurenceb_ celebrate that? 2018-06-06T02:04:53 < nn77> Laurenceb_, are you related to him? 2018-06-06T02:06:15 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T02:09:15 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T02:12:02 < Laurenceb_> maybe 2018-06-06T02:12:09 < Laurenceb_> tfw 50% amerimutt 2018-06-06T02:12:31 < Laurenceb_> let me tell u about my heritage 2018-06-06T02:13:00 < stvn> muh heritage mate. 2018-06-06T02:13:46 < Laurenceb_> ur heritage is criminal asshole 2018-06-06T02:16:05 < bitmask> https://i.imgur.com/AqgG5yu.png 2018-06-06T02:16:07 < bitmask> now that is a nice first layer, I can get used to this glass stuff :) 2018-06-06T02:25:12 < stvn> fucking lol 2018-06-06T02:25:16 < stvn> the bulldozer man 2018-06-06T02:28:47 < stvn> definitely a 4chan user amirite? 2018-06-06T02:28:52 < Laurenceb_> probably 2018-06-06T02:29:27 < Laurenceb_> < seventy eight percent 2018-06-06T02:29:46 < stvn> a true oldfag he was 2018-06-06T02:31:20 < stvn> with his full automatic armored assault bulldozer 2018-06-06T02:38:30 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T02:41:55 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-06T02:46:14 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T03:04:04 < Thorn> pcbway package with my first 2 altium disaster pcbs finally cleared customs 2018-06-06T03:05:10 < stvn> whut disaster ? 2018-06-06T03:05:49 < Thorn> altium disaster 2018-06-06T03:05:57 < stvn> did it melt? 2018-06-06T03:06:52 < Thorn> you know the australian eda software 2018-06-06T03:08:44 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T03:08:58 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T03:13:27 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-06T03:14:02 < stvn> altium mate 2018-06-06T03:16:27 < aandrew> c4017w_: what do you expect that code to do? 2018-06-06T03:17:26 < c4017w_> aandrew, I need a stack frame (push {r7, lr}) to be generated for each function 2018-06-06T03:17:42 < c4017w_> It seems like leaf functions will never have the push lr 2018-06-06T03:17:50 < aandrew> aren't you compiling with -fomit-frame-pointer? 2018-06-06T03:17:52 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2018-06-06T03:18:18 < c4017w_> -f no -omit-frame-pointer 2018-06-06T03:19:19 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T03:19:52 < aandrew> ah there's the issue 2018-06-06T03:19:57 < aandrew> you misunderstand that flag 2018-06-06T03:20:11 < aandrew> it's not "don't omit frame pointer", it's -fuck-no, omit-frame-pointer 2018-06-06T03:20:25 < c4017w_> ... 2018-06-06T03:20:32 < c4017w_> are you sure 2018-06-06T03:20:41 < aandrew> I jest 2018-06-06T03:21:08 < c4017w_> I've been at this for too long to see humor 2018-06-06T03:24:15 < aandrew> one of your flags is causing the issue 2018-06-06T03:24:22 < aandrew> -O0 -g3 gives me frame pointers 2018-06-06T03:24:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T03:25:05 < c4017w_> Not so worried about the fp, it's the link register that isn't being pushed 2018-06-06T03:25:50 < aandrew> https://pastebin.com/JsD8NWji 2018-06-06T03:26:09 < Thorn> it will never be pushed in leaf functions 2018-06-06T03:26:25 < c4017w_> Thorn, surely theres a way to force it? 2018-06-06T03:26:33 < Thorn> why 2018-06-06T03:26:41 < c4017w_> like -mtpcs-leaf-frame should do 2018-06-06T03:26:45 < c4017w_> For stack unwinding 2018-06-06T03:26:51 < Thorn> it's the whole point of having lr 2018-06-06T03:27:16 < c4017w_> o wait 2018-06-06T03:27:31 < c4017w_> I guess I could use it directly 2018-06-06T03:28:01 < c4017w_> Too bad _Unwind_Backtrace expects it to be stacked 2018-06-06T03:29:11 < c4017w_> No that still wont work. 2018-06-06T03:29:30 < c4017w_> I'm calling the unwinder from Hardfault handler, so lr will be overwritten 2018-06-06T03:32:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-06T03:33:03 < Thorn> lr is pushed to the main stack when cpu enters an interrupt handler 2018-06-06T03:33:11 < Thorn> together with several other registers 2018-06-06T03:37:51 < c4017w_> Yes, I was having problems unwinding with that stacked LR before, but now I'm realizing that _Unwind_Backtrace was failing becasue it expects an LR stacked in the function prologue 2018-06-06T03:38:19 < c4017w_> At this point I'm just going to write my own unwinder 2018-06-06T03:43:40 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T04:06:47 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T04:12:56 -!- c4017 [~c4017@S010664777dab66f3.vf.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T04:15:48 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T04:46:57 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32470.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T04:51:21 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32394.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-06T05:05:37 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-06T05:15:51 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T05:29:18 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-06T05:29:20 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T05:49:55 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-06T06:08:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T06:25:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T06:33:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-254-117-163.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-06T06:39:10 < stvn> https://jacquesmattheij.com/what-is-wrong-with-microsoft-buying-github 2018-06-06T06:39:23 < stvn> figured this would be written 2018-06-06T06:39:27 < stvn> maybe 100 times 2018-06-06T06:50:26 < englishman> lol 2018-06-06T06:51:06 < englishman> soon to suffer the same fate as skype 2018-06-06T06:53:17 < stvn> yuh i don't know anyone on skype now 2018-06-06T06:53:24 < stvn> apart from this guy sending me cats 2018-06-06T06:54:11 < englishman> at least skype didnt ban 🍆 2018-06-06T06:54:38 < stvn> the old eggplant mate 2018-06-06T06:54:39 < PeterM> skype was pretty well shit long before microsoft bought it 2018-06-06T06:54:49 < stvn> that's true 2018-06-06T06:55:27 < stvn> i wonder if microsoft will buy myspace lol 2018-06-06T06:56:47 < PeterM> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt 2018-06-06T06:59:57 < PeterM> jesus christ this guys references seem shit, the Stac thing he links too reeks of Stac leeching money from microsoft, not microsoft stealing industrial secrets 2018-06-06T07:00:31 < stvn> a real bobby dazzler 2018-06-06T07:03:57 < jadew> https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=Cb0pI_1527930807 2018-06-06T07:06:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T07:08:42 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T07:13:08 < PeterM> nice helmet DICKHEAD 2018-06-06T07:14:53 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T07:18:22 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-06T07:18:22 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-06T07:38:19 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-06T07:40:49 < ohsix> TheSeven: in the last 30 or something hours, the userscript busted; aliexpress reloads a ton until they throw a bot captcha :> 2018-06-06T07:42:52 < ohsix> also what's your paypal or something, way too dependent on this script heheh 2018-06-06T07:44:59 < dongs> < englishman> at least skype didnt ban ? 2018-06-06T07:45:00 < dongs> wat 2018-06-06T07:45:12 < dongs> what banned it 2018-06-06T07:45:14 < dongs> sjwbook? 2018-06-06T07:45:40 < dongs> Instagram ban on emoji has sexters searching for fruity alternatives ... 2018-06-06T07:45:41 < dongs> https://www.theguardian.com/.../instagram-ban-eggplant-emoji-sexters-fruity-alternati... 2018-06-06T07:45:44 < dongs> Apr 29, 2015 - The photo-sharing app has blocked searches for the eggplant or aubergine emoji after users employed it to denote a penis. 2018-06-06T07:45:47 < dongs> lul 2018-06-06T07:51:03 < jadew> microsoft is buying github? 2018-06-06T07:51:16 < dongs> old fucking news 2018-06-06T07:51:21 < dongs> nobody cares either 2018-06-06T07:52:14 < ohsix> you just mentioned skype 2018-06-06T07:52:25 < ohsix> and you shat all over what microsoft did to it 2018-06-06T07:52:34 < dongs> https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/gitlab-sees-huge-traffic-spike-after-news-of-microsoft-buying-github/ haha 2018-06-06T07:52:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T07:58:41 < talsit> i'm having an issue starting a sample program on the stm32f303k8 nucleo - it hardfaults on a "bl __libc_init_array" 2018-06-06T08:00:27 < talsit> confirmed that it's still thumb2 2018-06-06T08:00:48 < talsit> first instruction of that is " 80002c4: b570 push {r4, r5, r6, lr}" and it hardfaults on that 2018-06-06T08:01:07 < dongs> threadnigger 2.0 is out 2018-06-06T08:01:12 < dongs> does even less than 1.0 i bet 2018-06-06T08:02:45 < englishman> dongs, just did those Rf cages 2018-06-06T08:02:59 < dongs> mhm 2018-06-06T08:03:16 < englishman> what an ACTION PACKED hour of placing shit on the fucking conveyor and precisely placing the fucking shit 2018-06-06T08:03:31 < dongs> teehee 2018-06-06T08:04:51 < dongs> whats the highest profile project that raegquit shithub 2018-06-06T08:04:54 < dongs> after msft acquisitoion 2018-06-06T08:06:05 < jadew> I don't understand all the hate for MS 2018-06-06T08:06:09 < dongs> me neither 2018-06-06T08:06:16 < dongs> opensores fags are gonna opensores fags 2018-06-06T08:06:44 < dongs> some blogger @ medium saids msft bought shithub so they can look at all the private repos of their competitors and steal code 2018-06-06T08:06:48 < dongs> lol 2018-06-06T08:06:55 < dongs> yeah beacuse that makes SO MUCH SENSE commercially 2018-06-06T08:07:03 < dongs> opensores paranoia 2018-06-06T08:07:07 < dongs> newsflash, faggots 2018-06-06T08:07:13 < dongs> nobody wants your shitty fuckign code 2018-06-06T08:07:15 < dongs> thats why its opensores 2018-06-06T08:07:17 < dongs> because its: shit 2018-06-06T08:07:31 < jadew> that's what I was giong to say, MS has great developers 2018-06-06T08:08:08 < stvn> developers developers developers developers 2018-06-06T08:08:14 < jadew> exactly 2018-06-06T08:08:24 < jadew> their whole culture is built around developers 2018-06-06T08:08:51 < dongs> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12890/synaptics-at-computex-encrypted-and-in-display-fingerprint-sensors-in-real-products fuck yes 2018-06-06T08:09:05 < englishman> isnt that their biz plan? 2018-06-06T08:09:07 < dongs> now faggots just need to make some non-shit phones with in-screen fingerprint 2018-06-06T08:09:13 < englishman> chase away all the opensores faggots that just want free shit 2018-06-06T08:09:15 < englishman> all that remains: profit 2018-06-06T08:09:19 < dongs> haha 2018-06-06T08:09:26 < dongs> good1 2018-06-06T08:09:30 < dongs> also: true 2018-06-06T08:09:30 < jadew> lol 2018-06-06T08:09:33 < ohsix> an independent github wasn't in conflict medium/long term with many of the users 2018-06-06T08:09:35 < dongs> cuz opensores fags wouldnt be paying for shit anyway 2018-06-06T08:10:14 < ohsix> ms is publicly pretty legit now, vscode and stuff; web people don't even give a shit and the tooling is pretty ok 2018-06-06T08:10:50 < jadew> ohsix, all the old school programmers I know love MS too 2018-06-06T08:11:09 < ohsix> just the framing of people who don't like microsoft will make any change they make proscriptively bad, even if github wasn't acquired and made literally the same changes 2018-06-06T08:11:14 < dongs> why is autism6 chatting instead of moving off shithub 2018-06-06T08:12:36 < ohsix> it's not the worst thing as a platform, even if developing on it is way down the list of priorities 2018-06-06T08:13:58 < ohsix> shit like nodejs, python, lots of others, come with package managers and it's portable enough on the level you use it that most blockers are moot 2018-06-06T08:16:56 < ohsix> are there any reaaaaaally tiny plcs? or module plcs 2018-06-06T08:17:41 < ohsix> been getting into some shit, shit that's more like long term factory processes and they at least need the prospect of maintaining things for 20 years, and documenting them easily (think block diagrams, ladder printouts) 2018-06-06T08:18:54 < ohsix> hm there's something literally called tinyplc 2018-06-06T08:28:50 < englishman> found dongs https://i.redd.it/rcbaf03txa211.gif 2018-06-06T08:30:16 < dongs> haha 2018-06-06T08:56:32 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T08:59:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4db8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T09:07:19 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T09:13:18 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-06T09:13:28 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T09:13:28 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-06T09:16:16 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T09:27:32 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-06T09:27:57 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T09:29:05 < dongs> https://gfycat.com/requiredanxiousamericanbulldog 2018-06-06T09:36:05 < Haohmaru> the pesky red dot tricked us again 2018-06-06T09:48:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-06T09:51:36 < stvn> this is great 2018-06-06T09:53:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T09:59:22 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-06T10:00:26 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydvbrt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-06T10:09:19 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T10:12:12 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T10:12:58 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T10:32:00 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T10:42:35 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-06T10:43:22 -!- marble_visions [~marble_vi@46.101.108.79] has quit [Quit: bye] 2018-06-06T10:44:20 -!- marble_visions [~marble_vi@46.101.108.79] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T10:44:26 -!- akaWolf [~akaWolf@unaffiliated/akawolf] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T10:46:32 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T10:50:27 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-06T11:05:21 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T11:30:42 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@46.248.35.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T11:45:32 < Hamilton> hmm..CubeMX initialized interrupt for USART in _MSP.c code but do so for DMA in main.c code... 2018-06-06T11:51:19 < stvn> i'll never understand why it does things like that 2018-06-06T11:51:39 < stvn> I just throw the lever and pray... so far it's okay i guess....... 2018-06-06T11:54:17 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T11:59:05 < Hamilton> stvn, And I'm here with a smile on my face whenever I use it since I'm n00b and I don't have any grasp on what is the standard way of doing shit...So I ask here if there is something fundamentally wrong with the way of CubeMX doing things 2018-06-06T12:09:00 < srk> except that it's a pain to use there's nothing wrong with it 2018-06-06T12:09:04 < srk> it does its thing 2018-06-06T12:09:07 < srk> badly though 2018-06-06T12:10:55 < srk> like .. https://github.com/madcowswe/ODrive/blob/master/Firmware/MotorControl/low_level.c#L468 :) 2018-06-06T12:12:49 < dongs> is ODrive like EMDrive 2018-06-06T12:13:16 < stvn> hmmm 2018-06-06T12:13:18 < srk> no, the former is real 2018-06-06T12:14:05 < veverak> :D 2018-06-06T12:14:36 < Hamilton> srk, lol 2018-06-06T12:15:18 < stvn> fucking emdrive though 2018-06-06T12:15:58 < dongs> eMOdRIVE 2018-06-06T12:16:09 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T12:16:24 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T12:16:36 < Hamilton> stvn, Last thing I've read about EMdrive was along the lines of "German scientists disproved that it disproves laws of physics" 2018-06-06T12:16:45 < dongs> emdrive is over 2018-06-06T12:16:50 < Hamilton> Talking about bad measurements and so 2018-06-06T12:16:53 < dongs> yes 2018-06-06T12:17:06 < Hamilton> dongs, But man, didn't you *want* it be true? 2018-06-06T12:17:24 < day> would have been awesome Q.Q 2018-06-06T12:17:29 < qyx> wtf my calculator is not able to compute log(0.8) 2018-06-06T12:17:38 < qyx> ** ERROR OCCURRED IN LNS, NEWTON ITERATION NOT CONVERGING PROPERLY *** 2018-06-06T12:17:43 < veverak> lol 2018-06-06T12:17:48 < stvn> emdrive is the dumbest thing since perpetual motion 2018-06-06T12:18:02 < Hamilton> stvn, lol why? 2018-06-06T12:18:04 < day> qyx: even windows calc can do log(0.8) :D 2018-06-06T12:18:37 < stvn> i tried too 2018-06-06T12:19:14 < stvn> Hamilton: because physics 2018-06-06T12:19:33 < Hamilton> qyx, SpeedCruch for the win:) 2018-06-06T12:19:34 < Hamilton> www.speedcrunch.org/ 2018-06-06T12:19:56 < stvn> It is free and open-source software, licensed under the GPL. 2018-06-06T12:21:12 < Hamilton> stvn, ##stm32 should really try it...It even got a nifty binary to hex gui (ctrl+6) 2018-06-06T12:21:36 < stvn> yeah im sure laurence uses it every day 2018-06-06T12:24:30 < qyx> any idea why my log() gives 4294967290 2018-06-06T12:25:24 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-adiiihjtynyoimcl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T12:25:29 < Haohmaru> qyx, how are you printing this number? 2018-06-06T12:25:36 < Haohmaru> is it not "inf" 2018-06-06T12:27:00 < qyx> fuk, it is negative 2018-06-06T12:27:04 < qyx> of course 2018-06-06T12:27:44 < qyx> ok, if I want to compute signal level in dbFS, I calculate sum of abs() of all samples 2018-06-06T12:28:05 < qyx> divide it by number of samples, full scale range and multiply by 2 2018-06-06T12:28:24 < qyx> and then 20*log(n) 2018-06-06T12:28:25 < qyx> right? 2018-06-06T12:30:40 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.65.147] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T12:31:21 < Haohmaru> "all" samples? 2018-06-06T12:32:03 < qyx> ok, not right 2018-06-06T12:32:07 < qyx> yes, all samples in a buffer 2018-06-06T12:32:17 < qyx> I need to compute rms first it seems 2018-06-06T12:32:22 * qyx dumb 2018-06-06T12:32:32 < Haohmaru> yeah that sounds like RMS 2018-06-06T12:46:47 < Hamilton> pfff...Tracking hdmarx , huart structs , XferCplt and RxCpltCallback has been an episode of my dear mr sherlock holmes 2018-06-06T12:47:19 * Hamilton Wonders how deep the rabbit hole goes 2018-06-06T12:48:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T12:48:35 < stvn> [: 2018-06-06T12:50:07 < Hamilton> And the __weak pragma is the sauce of it 2018-06-06T12:50:13 * Hamilton not complains though 2018-06-06T12:51:45 < Laurenceb_> Genius post. Everyone's laughing. Got my speakers turned up loud. 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23 minutes? 2018-06-06T13:54:50 < Thorn> 11:12:41 utc 2018-06-06T13:55:03 < zyp> right 2018-06-06T13:55:22 < zyp> I saw 14:12, wondering what TZ that was 2018-06-06T13:55:48 < Thorn> msk 2018-06-06T13:58:46 < invzim> SCB->VTOR - this SHOULD in theory being taken care of by linker script when main app starts somewhere else than 0x8000000? 2018-06-06T13:58:58 < dongs> no 2018-06-06T13:59:00 < dongs> you set it lol. 2018-06-06T13:59:04 < dongs> why would linker do anytrhign with it 2018-06-06T13:59:15 < invzim> because I told it that flash starts somehwhere else 2018-06-06T13:59:16 < dongs> in stdperiph its in system_stm32fxx.c 2018-06-06T13:59:21 < dongs> yeah but it doesnt care 2018-06-06T13:59:46 < invzim> well, I set it in the bootloader just before jumping - but in main app, it's somehow reset to 0x8000000 it seems 2018-06-06T14:03:16 < dongs> yes, look in system_stm32fxx.c 2018-06-06T14:03:19 < dongs> its set there. 2018-06-06T14:03:25 < dongs> inside SystemInit 2018-06-06T14:03:27 < dongs> or wahetver 2018-06-06T14:07:17 < Thorn> T-6 min 2018-06-06T14:08:07 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-06T14:08:38 < stvn> until the cleanup 2018-06-06T14:10:36 < dongs> is there people inside 2018-06-06T14:11:03 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-06T14:11:19 < dongs> worth a watch then 2018-06-06T14:11:32 < dongs> nice CVBS rainbow banding on the outside cam 2018-06-06T14:11:33 < invzim> who's launching what? 2018-06-06T14:11:37 < dongs> dat composite video 2018-06-06T14:12:31 < dongs> 2nd stream is ~10 seconds faster 2018-06-06T14:12:38 < dongs> there's the shot with banding 2018-06-06T14:12:56 < dongs> engines on on 2nd stream 2018-06-06T14:13:00 < dongs> liftoff 2018-06-06T14:13:41 < dongs> nice 2018-06-06T14:14:28 < dongs> fuck yank units 2018-06-06T14:25:21 < Laurenceb> muh units 2018-06-06T14:25:38 < stvn> tell me about your atomic heritage 2018-06-06T14:25:46 < dongs> SOCIAL MEDIA 2018-06-06T14:25:54 < Laurenceb> muh media 2018-06-06T14:25:57 < dongs> CANCER 2018-06-06T14:27:55 < Laurenceb> this voiceover 2018-06-06T14:28:00 < Laurenceb> so incoherent 2018-06-06T14:28:07 < Laurenceb> and pretentious 2018-06-06T14:28:17 < dongs> WILL THEY MANAGE TO TWEET ON THE WAY TO SPACE STATION 2018-06-06T14:28:18 < dongs> christ 2018-06-06T14:28:21 < Laurenceb> omg 2018-06-06T14:28:22 < dongs> asking the important questions 2018-06-06T14:29:10 < Laurenceb> dat russian grrrl doing voice over 2018-06-06T14:29:15 < Laurenceb> "shakker is broken" 2018-06-06T14:30:26 < dongs> k i cant handle that shit anymore 2018-06-06T14:30:27 < dongs> turned off 2018-06-06T14:30:32 < stvn> do you guys want it to explode? 2018-06-06T14:30:44 < dongs> its already in space, its not gonna explode 2018-06-06T14:31:04 < stvn> oh 2018-06-06T14:31:39 < Laurenceb> interesting video glitches 2018-06-06T14:31:51 < Laurenceb> looks like some sort of modified mpeg type shit 2018-06-06T14:31:53 < stvn> hope they packed an EMdrive 2018-06-06T14:32:00 < Laurenceb> lok ssdv for ballooning 2018-06-06T14:32:04 < Laurenceb> *like 2018-06-06T14:32:05 < dongs> Laurenceb: of course it is mpeg what else would it be 2018-06-06T14:32:22 < Laurenceb> well mpeg breaks horribly if you get errors 2018-06-06T14:32:25 < dongs> probly mpeg or mjpeg with lots of fec but still fails sometimes 2018-06-06T14:32:40 < invzim> hm, so setting really early in my main app's main seem to cure everything 2018-06-06T14:32:45 < invzim> scb->vtor 2018-06-06T14:32:51 < dongs> invzim: did you fucking look at SystemInit?? 2018-06-06T14:32:51 < Laurenceb> hab guys tweaked it to add way more keyframes and make it more error tolerant 2018-06-06T14:32:59 < Laurenceb> the glitches look similar 2018-06-06T14:33:02 < dongs> are you using cube or stdperiph 2018-06-06T14:33:22 < invzim> dongs: no SystemInit, cube 2018-06-06T14:33:36 < invzim> I have this feeling this can be done with linker script 2018-06-06T14:33:58 < dongs> cube makes system_stm32xxx.c... 2018-06-06T14:34:12 < dongs> cube startup shit stillr eferences SystemInit in reset vector 2018-06-06T14:34:43 < dongs> ApplicationStart LDR R0, =SystemInit BLX R0 LDR R0, =__main 2018-06-06T14:35:30 < Haohmaru> cube32shit, startup shit, SystemShit, reset shit, ApplicationShit 2018-06-06T14:35:33 < invzim> as long as it works, I'm happy - seems I do stuff right in the bootloader, how the vtor is set in main-app can always be perfected laters I guess 2018-06-06T14:35:36 * Haohmaru plays brown noise 2018-06-06T14:35:43 < Laurenceb> SystemInit BLX 2018-06-06T14:35:45 < Laurenceb> das me 2018-06-06T14:36:23 < dongs> https://community.st.com/thread/32008 < invzim 2018-06-06T14:36:38 < Haohmaru> i think i learned the sh*t part, the other parts are unclear 2018-06-06T14:37:12 < dongs> https://community.st.com/thread/45891-vector-table-relocation clive to the rescue 2018-06-06T14:37:13 < invzim> dongs: yup, had a peek, thanks 2018-06-06T14:37:20 < dongs> i guess you COULD use dicker script 2018-06-06T14:37:32 < dongs> you still need to modify the system_stm32 file tho 2018-06-06T14:38:09 < invzim> anything wrong with just dumbly setting it at start of main? 2018-06-06T14:38:33 < dongs> no, if its right at start you dont have any interrupts yet. 2018-06-06T14:38:45 < dongs> the point of setting it in reset vector is so that its done very early 2018-06-06T14:38:50 < Laurenceb> oh we get to see these two autists 2018-06-06T14:38:58 < dongs> anyway, im prety sure zyp just sets it in bootlaoder only 2018-06-06T14:38:58 < Laurenceb> they look about as autistic as I expected 2018-06-06T14:39:09 < dongs> Laurenceb: the nasa announcers? yeah theyt're awful 2018-06-06T14:39:13 < dongs> that dude keeps looking at the girl 2018-06-06T14:39:18 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-06T14:39:20 < dongs> it was fucking terrible i had to tab out 2018-06-06T14:39:23 < Laurenceb> incel confirmed 2018-06-06T14:40:45 < stvn> glad im not watching 2018-06-06T14:42:00 < zyp> dongs, yeah, I've never understood the point of setting it from code 2018-06-06T14:44:01 < Laurenceb> https://files.catbox.moe/1an604.gif 2018-06-06T14:44:59 < Laurenceb> https://kek.gg/i/5GpMR.png 2018-06-06T14:47:00 < dongs> < Laurenceb> https://files.catbox.moe/1an604.gif 2018-06-06T14:47:01 < dongs> saved 2018-06-06T14:48:17 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T14:53:14 < stvn> CRT 2018-06-06T14:53:20 < stvn> magikarp 2018-06-06T14:56:23 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/QhfEpAJ 2018-06-06T14:59:37 < Hamilton> dongs, At the background of TV, a T-Rex is fighting the symbol of STM32 2018-06-06T14:59:45 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.65.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T15:00:08 < Haohmaru> t-rex? i thought it's godzilla 2018-06-06T15:00:57 < Hamilton> Haohmaru, IIRC, godzilla was T-Rex mutated? 2018-06-06T15:01:02 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T15:01:30 < Haohmaru> nah, it's a mutated lizard or some such 2018-06-06T15:01:47 < Haohmaru> t-rex is a dinosaur, dinosaurs are kinda dead 2018-06-06T15:02:04 < Haohmaru> except maybe.. birds and crocs/gators? 2018-06-06T15:02:11 < Hamilton> At the left of that gif, a yellow Mr.Meeskis is having a hang-over 2018-06-06T15:02:26 < Haohmaru> more like.. drooling 2018-06-06T15:02:34 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-06T15:04:33 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-06T15:06:47 < Hamilton> So SYSCLK does not have the same frequency of Core? 2018-06-06T15:07:23 < Hamilton> Core's clock is named HCLK 2018-06-06T15:25:03 < zyp> HCLK is AHB clock, SYSCLK is cpu clock 2018-06-06T15:25:25 < zyp> they are usually identical, I don't remember if there's an optional divider between them 2018-06-06T15:29:12 < zyp> ah, looks like cpu is also connected to HCLK, HCLK is SYSCLK / HPRE 2018-06-06T15:33:18 < Hamilton> zyp, So when we say that some instruction takes 4 clock cycles, we should consider HCLK actually (not SYSCLK) 2018-06-06T15:33:25 < Hamilton> I guess the naming is confusing 2018-06-06T15:34:31 < zyp> doesn't matter when HPRE=1 2018-06-06T15:36:19 < Hamilton> zyp, Yeah, but generally no. Even SysTick is 2 prescalers away from SYSCLK... 2018-06-06T15:36:46 < Hamilton> At this point, I can say that nothing could be asserted if we only know SYSCLK 2018-06-06T15:37:31 < zyp> what's your point? 2018-06-06T15:38:04 < zyp> you're basically saying "we can't assert anything if we don't know anything", which is kinda obvious 2018-06-06T15:38:34 < Hamilton> zyp, I've read somewhere SysTick is kinda special timer between Cortex-M MCUs...If SYSCLK was a CMSIS requirement, we could have consistent SysTick between different MCUs 2018-06-06T15:39:10 < zyp> yeah? 2018-06-06T15:39:37 < Hamilton> zyp, But it is not the case since every vendor chooses its own prescalers between SysTick and SYSCLK 2018-06-06T15:40:02 < Hamilton> I mean nothing "systematic" is about SYSCLK 2018-06-06T15:40:22 < Hamilton> It is just an internal joint in clock architecuture 2018-06-06T15:40:50 < zyp> forget about systick, what's interesting is cpu clock, whatever it's called 2018-06-06T15:40:59 < zyp> forget about SYSCLK, I mean 2018-06-06T15:41:17 < Hamilton> :) 2018-06-06T15:41:32 < zyp> systick has an input mux where you can choose to either run it from core clock or from a vendor defined external input (which IIRC on stm32 is core clock / 8) 2018-06-06T15:41:50 < zyp> set it to core clock and know the core clock and you're set 2018-06-06T15:41:52 < zyp> problem solved 2018-06-06T15:42:36 < zyp> also, AFAIK there's no STM32 where HPRE can't be set to 1, so just leave it at 1 and keep assuming SYSCLK = core clock 2018-06-06T15:44:47 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6814:3a4d:d859:3451:86d1:1ef3] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T15:45:07 < Laurenceb> muh Qt is segfaulting :( 2018-06-06T15:45:20 < Laurenceb> connect((intf.device->process),static_cast(&QProcess::finished),[=](int exitCode, QProcess::ExitStatus exitStatus){stopnotify(exitCode,exitStatus,intf.device);}); 2018-06-06T15:45:22 < Laurenceb> fun 2018-06-06T15:46:11 < Laurenceb> intf.device->process is nonzero 2018-06-06T15:46:39 < zyp> nonzero doesn't necessarily mean valid 2018-06-06T15:47:19 < Laurenceb> yeah 2018-06-06T15:47:24 < Laurenceb> maybe I cant do this... 2018-06-06T15:47:31 < Laurenceb> time to read the docs 2018-06-06T15:47:35 < zyp> also, wtf are you trying to do, I don't get it 2018-06-06T15:47:55 < Laurenceb> stopnotify is called if the spawned process quits 2018-06-06T15:48:25 < Thorn> you're capturing something by value, is your copy ctor correct 2018-06-06T15:48:27 < Laurenceb> with a pointer to the device structure passed along with the exit code and status 2018-06-06T15:49:04 < Thorn> what is intf 2018-06-06T15:49:17 < Laurenceb> a structure 2018-06-06T15:49:18 < zyp> what's that static_cast for? 2018-06-06T15:49:36 < Laurenceb> zyp: dunno its based on a copypasta example.. 2018-06-06T15:49:42 < Laurenceb> muh c++ isnt too good 2018-06-06T15:49:42 < Thorn> to select an overload probably 2018-06-06T15:50:05 < Thorn> among multiple methods named 'finished' 2018-06-06T15:50:18 < zyp> wat 2018-06-06T15:51:09 < Thorn> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16794695/connecting-overloaded-signals-and-slots-in-qt-5 2018-06-06T15:52:04 < zyp> that's pretty awful 2018-06-06T15:52:21 < zyp> the qOverload() thing looks more sane 2018-06-06T15:52:45 < Thorn> it's recent 2018-06-06T15:53:15 < Laurenceb> yeah I have 5.2 here 2018-06-06T15:55:13 < Thorn> I recently tried to use something as simple as std::min(constexpr size_t, volatile size_t) and it was >pretty awful too lol 2018-06-06T15:55:42 < Thorn> that describes c++ including c++11+ pretty accurately in general lol 2018-06-06T15:56:42 < Laurenceb> still can't see why its segfaulting 2018-06-06T15:56:54 < Laurenceb> process is 64 bits but device is 32 2018-06-06T15:56:58 < Laurenceb> odd 2018-06-06T15:57:32 < Laurenceb> its running on 64 bit system 2018-06-06T15:57:37 < zyp> have you tried backtracing the segfault? 2018-06-06T15:57:53 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-06T15:57:59 < Laurenceb> I get to that line 2018-06-06T15:58:08 < Laurenceb> I cant make sense of the Qt functions :P 2018-06-06T15:58:28 < zyp> which of the three arguments are invalid then? 2018-06-06T16:01:10 < Laurenceb> hmf it all looks fine 2018-06-06T16:04:37 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T16:05:29 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T16:07:48 < Laurenceb> clearly I need to improve my debugging skillz 2018-06-06T16:08:24 < Laurenceb> guess I'll have to delve into the Qt code :( 2018-06-06T16:09:52 < Laurenceb> oh shit 2018-06-06T16:10:01 < Laurenceb> ok this is way more complex 2018-06-06T16:10:19 < Laurenceb> segfault is actually from the QProcess itself 2018-06-06T16:10:25 < Laurenceb> I was confused by the debugger 2018-06-06T16:10:35 < Laurenceb> this makes sense now 2018-06-06T16:11:48 < Laurenceb> >google for segfault debugging > get "RMS's gdb Tutorial: Segmentation Fault Example " >thanks but no thanks 2018-06-06T16:12:22 < mawk> is it just me or STM32CubeMX in Makefile generation mode doesn't seem to understand that providing the same .o several times will result in "multiple definitions" errors 2018-06-06T16:12:56 < mawk> it works with .a indeed, but not with .o without some dirty -Wl,-z,muldefs linker flag 2018-06-06T16:15:35 < Laurenceb> serial QString 2018-06-06T16:15:50 < Laurenceb> my usb connect process is passed that as the device serial 2018-06-06T16:15:54 < Laurenceb> that explains the issue 2018-06-06T16:32:23 < Laurenceb> intf.device=&((*devices)[m]); 2018-06-06T16:32:30 < Laurenceb> looks like the source of my issues 2018-06-06T16:38:01 < zyp> &((*devices)[m]) looks pretty overcomplicated 2018-06-06T16:38:14 < Laurenceb> QList *devices 2018-06-06T16:38:23 < Laurenceb> for some reason it works most of the time 2018-06-06T16:38:35 < Laurenceb> until it doesnt 2018-06-06T16:39:03 < Laurenceb> and intf.device is a screwy pointer 2018-06-06T16:39:05 < zyp> ah, haha 2018-06-06T16:39:31 -!- yanek [yanek@atlantis.mitranet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T16:39:38 < Laurenceb> there has to be a better way to do this 2018-06-06T16:39:39 -!- yanek [yanek@atlantis.mitranet.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T16:39:45 < zyp> so (*devices)[m] gives you a temporary copy of a sensorhandle, and you take the address of that and stuff it onto intf.device 2018-06-06T16:40:02 < Laurenceb> oh shit 2018-06-06T16:40:04 < Laurenceb> lol 2018-06-06T16:40:07 < zyp> and then the temporary copy expires before you try dereferencing intf.device 2018-06-06T16:41:08 < Laurenceb> ok thanks 2018-06-06T16:41:36 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/YCphbGZt 2018-06-06T16:41:46 < Laurenceb> I think I just need to rewrite this, its a mess 2018-06-06T16:46:07 < qyx> if you impelmented it in haskell you would have better chances to make it working 2018-06-06T16:46:36 < Laurenceb> sheeet line 16 is going to fail too 2018-06-06T16:46:46 < Laurenceb> buffer size if a function of sample rate 2018-06-06T16:47:05 < Laurenceb> reeee why cant I stick with audacity 2018-06-06T16:47:11 < mawk> stop the propaganda qyx 2018-06-06T16:47:16 < Laurenceb> shit *just works* 2018-06-06T16:47:50 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T16:49:23 < Haohmaru> Laurenceb, wut is this? realtime audio processing? 2018-06-06T16:49:30 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-06T16:49:40 < Laurenceb> well, audio+gps+vibration 2018-06-06T16:49:42 < Haohmaru> y do i see such much malloc and shizzle? 2018-06-06T16:49:54 < Laurenceb> this is the setup code 2018-06-06T16:52:10 < Hamilton> It seems CubeMX doesn't fill out the correct value for CMSIS global SystemCoreClock 2018-06-06T16:53:03 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T16:53:15 < Laurenceb> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/assets/45046.0/1495300.jpg 2018-06-06T16:53:22 < Haohmaru> *** Innovation has ceised 2018-06-06T16:53:25 < Laurenceb> a u t i s m 2018-06-06T16:58:35 < Hamilton> So it seems CubeMX does actually update SystemCoreClock global manually but does not call SystemCoreClockUpdate() 2018-06-06T17:03:29 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6814:3a4d:d859:3451:86d1:1ef3] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-06T17:06:32 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T17:15:27 -!- drz3k [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-06T17:16:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T17:19:28 < mawk> Hamilton: cubemx calls HAL_SYSTICK_Config 2018-06-06T17:19:41 < mawk> and cubemx also says that either can be called 2018-06-06T17:19:59 < Hamilton> mawk, yes but in it, it sets that global manually. Does not call the update function 2018-06-06T17:22:07 < mawk> also it says that if you call HAL_RCC_ClockConfig there is no need to call SystemCoreClockUpdate 2018-06-06T17:24:51 < Hamilton> mawk, In HAL_RCC_ClockConfig (for F103), the only CMSIS related note is this : * @note The SystemCoreClock CMSIS variable is used to store System Clock Frequency 2018-06-06T17:24:51 < Hamilton> * and updated by @ref HAL_RCC_GetHCLKFreq() function called within this function 2018-06-06T17:26:53 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-06T17:27:03 < qyx> ...has no member named 'has_signal_count'; did you mean 'has_signals_total'? 2018-06-06T17:27:04 < mawk> then see inside HAL_RCC_GetHCLKFreq as this is saying no ? 2018-06-06T17:27:08 < qyx> uh, new error reporting? 2018-06-06T17:27:20 < mawk> https://paste.serveur.io/I24icI1r.c 2018-06-06T17:27:27 < mawk> here is the comment I quoted from 2018-06-06T17:31:07 < Hamilton> mawk, https://paste.serveur.io/45ibXpEP 2018-06-06T17:32:02 < Hamilton> If CMSIS is OK if SystemCoreClock global is set, I guess there wouldn't be a problem 2018-06-06T17:32:35 < Hamilton> But if CMSIS needs SystemCoreClockUpdate() be called after a change, then problems may occur imo 2018-06-06T17:39:35 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@46.248.35.7] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T17:57:06 < kakimir> how does edge cuts work exacltly in pcb manuf. perspective 2018-06-06T17:57:27 < kakimir> I did some wider lines to do some fill keepout 2018-06-06T17:57:46 < kakimir> I don't see fill keepout 2018-06-06T17:59:12 < PeterM> kakimir i assume oyu mean you drew lines for your mechanical outline and you made them non-zero width? 2018-06-06T17:59:32 < PeterM> they use the centerline of the line usually 2018-06-06T18:00:28 < kakimir> I assumed that too 2018-06-06T18:00:48 < kakimir> and other edges actually are in their dimensions to centerline 2018-06-06T18:01:00 < kakimir> but that with wider has been routed the full width 2018-06-06T18:02:23 < mawk> why is there no microsecond wait function in HAL, it's because it's a bad idea to do it ? 2018-06-06T18:03:00 < PeterM> kakimir what 2018-06-06T18:03:32 < PeterM> you mean etched not routed? 2018-06-06T18:03:32 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-06T18:03:46 < kakimir> routed 2018-06-06T18:03:59 < kakimir> thinner line - routed to centerline 2018-06-06T18:04:05 < PeterM> yes 2018-06-06T18:04:29 < kakimir> wider line - routed to inner side of edge cut line 2018-06-06T18:05:02 < kakimir> I better confim this if the 2018-06-06T18:05:27 < kakimir> copper extends too close actually but it looks to be the same distance than everywhere else 2018-06-06T18:05:48 < Haohmaru> kakimir, use the 3D preview to get an idea how yer board's gonna look like 2018-06-06T18:05:50 < Haohmaru> ya know this 2018-06-06T18:06:03 < kakimir> propiertary 2018-06-06T18:06:13 < PeterM> i have not experienced that before, usually it is routed along the centerline, and to create a specific shape cutout you need to create that shape out of the centerlines 2018-06-06T18:06:18 < Haohmaru> only the center of the lines matter on the edge.cuts layer 2018-06-06T18:06:55 < Haohmaru> the fab will deal with it (they gonna mill around it on the outter side, compensating for their actual drill diameter 2018-06-06T18:07:21 < PeterM> so if you put a single line in the center of your board, and oyu make it 10mm wide and 10mm long, you dont get a 10mm square hole you get a 10mm long slot with a width of whatever their router bit is 2018-06-06T18:07:32 < Haohmaru> the line thickness might have some effect on how close you can route tracks to the edge, and/or copper fill zones 2018-06-06T18:08:38 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-06T18:11:33 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T18:14:14 < kakimir> yes I have 0,7mm bigger slot 2018-06-06T18:26:55 < Laurenceb> zyp: any ideas how to fix muh codez? 2018-06-06T18:27:03 < Laurenceb> I'm confused :( 2018-06-06T18:27:12 < Laurenceb> intf.device=&((*devices)[m]); 2018-06-06T18:27:28 < Laurenceb> use .at ? 2018-06-06T18:29:41 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T18:31:13 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-06T18:41:17 < bitmask> morez printerz partz 2018-06-06T18:57:58 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/10ZyN-LkvBqFD65o95njazm9cCRTSTO2M/view?usp=sharing those slots should be 4.3mm wide 2018-06-06T18:58:07 < kakimir> but those are 5mm wide 2018-06-06T18:58:26 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-45.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T18:58:45 < kakimir> so now I need to make sure and make manually keepout around that slot 2018-06-06T18:58:58 < kakimir> and use standard width of edge cut 2018-06-06T18:59:21 < TheSeven> ohsix: oh noes... not again 2018-06-06T18:59:56 < PeterM> router bits have width 2018-06-06T19:01:27 < TheSeven> looks like they removed the "show price per piece" option now :/ 2018-06-06T19:02:01 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-06T19:02:11 < TheSeven> why are they crippling their UI more and more... 2018-06-06T19:04:32 < PeterM> TheSeven &isUnitPrice=y ? 2018-06-06T19:04:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T19:05:01 < TheSeven> yeah it still seems to work on the backend side, but the input field is now completely gone, not just hidden 2018-06-06T19:05:17 < PeterM> indeed 2018-06-06T19:05:30 < PeterM> sellers probably complained 2018-06-06T19:08:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T19:11:09 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T19:12:04 < TheSeven> completely pointless though 2018-06-06T19:14:16 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800b58a0059aed7b7349492a5.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T19:14:26 < TheSeven> hahaha 2018-06-06T19:14:31 < TheSeven> no, the issue was something completely different 2018-06-06T19:14:43 < TheSeven> didn't realize that this was only there if my script was running since ages 2018-06-06T19:15:12 < TheSeven> what actually went missing, and what confused it, is that the "local returns" checkbox went missing 2018-06-06T19:15:24 < TheSeven> (which was used as an anchor to position other things) 2018-06-06T19:18:11 < TheSeven> fixed it: https://paste.ee/p/eyjk0 @ohsix 2018-06-06T19:18:55 < TheSeven> tied to the "free shipping" checkbox now, I guess that one doesn't vanish anytime soon ;) 2018-06-06T19:22:44 < Laurenceb> wew 2018-06-06T19:22:54 < Laurenceb> when muh gui crashes it now hangs all the sensors too 2018-06-06T19:23:03 < Laurenceb> achievement unlocked 2018-06-06T19:24:01 -!- hornang [~quassel@185.56.186.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-06T19:26:49 < Laurenceb> looks like it spawns usb processes then they have nowhere to put their data 2018-06-06T19:27:26 < Laurenceb> sensors arent actually hanging its some timecube usb error state 2018-06-06T19:28:23 < srk> :D 2018-06-06T19:28:25 < srk> usb rulz 2018-06-06T19:28:55 < Laurenceb> this 2018-06-06T19:28:58 < Laurenceb> thats kind of bad 2018-06-06T19:32:08 < Drzacek> Hello again 2018-06-06T19:32:13 < Drzacek> so about that timer interrupts 2018-06-06T19:33:14 < ohsix> TheSeven: spent a bit looking at it in developer tools stuff, something outside of the userscript is causing the reload. finding out what that was took too much time tho ;] 2018-06-06T19:33:34 < Drzacek> is there some clear and easy tutorial about how to use them? Cause all what I saw in google is overly complicated and overall just sucks 2018-06-06T19:33:49 < Laurenceb> I suspect something is spitting junk over memory 2018-06-06T19:34:28 < TheSeven> ohsix: the userscript itself was causing the reload, because it failed to detect that it had already set sensible defaults, because setting those failed, because the input fields could not be inserted, because that "local returns" checkbox went missing 2018-06-06T19:35:18 < TheSeven> the form.submit(); was called over and over again because it failed to make input.length become true 2018-06-06T19:35:34 < ohsix> ah 2018-06-06T19:36:06 < srk> Drzacek: enable timer periph (RCC), configure it according to your needs (counter mode up/down, reload value, capture compare register(s)), enable timer periph in CR1_CEN 2018-06-06T19:36:30 < ohsix> i tried to check out the form.submit and click paths but to my ignorant eye it looked like it was just handling a few cases, and i wasn't actually running into all of them (breakpoints/dom stuff wasn't being hit, assumed) 2018-06-06T19:37:07 < srk> Drzacek: when interrupt arrives you need to clear the flag in the status register 2018-06-06T19:37:08 -!- ggVGc [~http_ggvg@unaffiliated/walt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T19:37:55 < Laurenceb> wtf now it gets SIGABRT 2018-06-06T19:38:01 < Laurenceb> I hate pc programming 2018-06-06T19:38:05 < Laurenceb> this shit sucks 2018-06-06T19:38:23 < ohsix> life begins at fork 2018-06-06T19:38:23 < Drzacek> srk, sounds way clearer than what I found 2018-06-06T19:38:38 < Laurenceb> wtf could cause SIGABRT? 2018-06-06T19:38:41 < Drzacek> what's the point of making a huge library when the functions only make it more complicated? 2018-06-06T19:39:12 < Drzacek> Laurenceb, overflow? 2018-06-06T19:39:18 < Laurenceb> hmm ok 2018-06-06T19:39:19 < ohsix> you get abrt on asserts and shit 2018-06-06T19:39:22 < Drzacek> allocs too much? 2018-06-06T19:39:27 < Laurenceb> that might match with the other behaviour yeah 2018-06-06T19:39:37 < Laurenceb> something is causing 2018-06-06T19:39:42 < Laurenceb> this 2018-06-06T19:40:01 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T19:40:17 < srk> Drzacek: I'm using an alternative that makes it less obfuscated (at least register access :)) https://github.com/distrap/ivory-tower-drivers/blob/master/src/Ivory/Tower/Drivers/PWM/ATIM.hs 2018-06-06T19:40:35 < ohsix> unless something is checking the page and aborting/kill/raise instead of allowing the address fault ... 2018-06-06T19:40:44 < Laurenceb> clearly I need to pay a constultant to fix my codez 2018-06-06T19:40:47 < Laurenceb> that would surely work 2018-06-06T19:41:05 < srk> least you use Qt not crap like gtk :) 2018-06-06T19:41:25 < Drzacek> qtmasterrace 2018-06-06T19:42:18 < ohsix> is the stack broken? why aren't you looking at it 2018-06-06T19:42:47 < srk> Drzacek: cause in the end you end up looking into datasheets trying to figure out how to translate what's in there into cubemx :D 2018-06-06T19:43:15 < Drzacek> tbh I just want to do some few easy projects, not dive deep into it 2018-06-06T19:43:32 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/et4riIR 2018-06-06T19:43:36 < srk> yeah, most ppl "just want to do this simple thing" :) 2018-06-06T19:43:37 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T19:44:20 < Laurenceb> ^that looks v bad to me 2018-06-06T19:44:41 < srk> Drzacek: what kind of projects? 2018-06-06T19:45:10 < srk> Drzacek: maybe take a look at libopencm3 as well 2018-06-06T19:45:11 < Drzacek> srk, once I figure out how some of the standard HW shit works, I can focus on something inteligent 2018-06-06T19:45:40 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-06T19:45:42 < Drzacek> and write some slightly-higher level stuff 2018-06-06T19:45:56 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-06T19:46:10 < Laurenceb> ohsix: does that look like stack is broken? 2018-06-06T19:46:17 * Laurenceb fails at Qt debug gui 2018-06-06T19:46:48 < antto> aww 2018-06-06T19:50:44 < ohsix> Laurenceb: a little, move timestamp_t somewhere out of the function and see if it still does it 2018-06-06T19:51:25 < ohsix> thought you were actually using gtk from srk's comment, before i looked back in the buffer 2018-06-06T19:51:33 < Laurenceb> heh 2018-06-06T19:51:46 < ohsix> you can end up running into silly things in the signal/slot/event dispatch stuff 2018-06-06T19:51:55 < Laurenceb> I think it might be buffer overflow in my data handling 2018-06-06T19:51:55 < ohsix> not quite missing *this but i'm sure that can happen 2018-06-06T19:52:03 < Laurenceb> problem is that code is really complex :( 2018-06-06T19:52:09 < Laurenceb> I'm not in mood for this now :( 2018-06-06T19:52:25 < ohsix> did you write it? 2018-06-06T19:52:29 < Laurenceb> it has to be able to kill and spawn new interface threads while its running 2018-06-06T19:52:30 < Laurenceb> yeah 2018-06-06T19:52:44 < Laurenceb> wrote whole thing before compiling 2018-06-06T19:52:46 < Laurenceb> bad idea 2018-06-06T19:53:06 < ohsix> why is there code checking a device state / presence mixed in 2018-06-06T19:53:10 < Laurenceb> problem is its hard to test in sections without making loads of testing stuff 2018-06-06T19:53:26 < Laurenceb> cuz requirements were all over the place and I got confused... 2018-06-06T19:53:29 < ohsix> if you have to wait for gps/gpsd that 20hz is going to be noisy 2018-06-06T19:53:45 < Laurenceb> its a 15hz gps 2018-06-06T19:53:58 < Laurenceb> and it just looks for gps presence, gps times out after 15s 2018-06-06T19:54:42 < Laurenceb> the idea of the gui is that it logs all available data all the time 2018-06-06T19:55:01 < Laurenceb> so autodetects and connects/disconnects sensors while its running 2018-06-06T19:55:26 < ohsix> you have to mix them? you can't just put them all in time series and worry abotu looking at them later? 2018-06-06T19:55:29 < Laurenceb> but it all has to be <100µs synchronised which is a pita 2018-06-06T19:55:59 < Laurenceb> ohsix: well to a certain extent you could postprocess in matlab/whatever 2018-06-06T19:56:18 < Laurenceb> but the requirement is for an influx db server interface as well as file storage 2018-06-06T19:56:25 < ohsix> just get good timestamps on them when they're sampled, doing it like you are won't actually keep them in sync, but throw everything off based on the delay of reading each sample 2018-06-06T19:56:28 < Laurenceb> that needs synchronisation at runtime 2018-06-06T19:56:31 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T19:56:52 < Laurenceb> ohsix: the sensors themselves give timing info out based on usb frame number 2018-06-06T19:56:57 < Laurenceb> so exact sync is possible 2018-06-06T19:57:00 < ohsix> gotta run, will check back in a few hours 2018-06-06T19:57:05 < Laurenceb> cya 2018-06-06T19:57:51 < ohsix> try and explain what it means to be 'in sync' so i can read it when i get back, having timestamps that are reliable on read seems to mean they'll be fine when you order them later 2018-06-06T19:58:21 < Laurenceb> so you can align samples to the sample time exactly 2018-06-06T19:58:41 < Laurenceb> but yeah itd be ok to postprocess apart for the fact that they have to go into a time series database 2018-06-06T20:08:15 -!- nn777 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T20:09:38 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-06T20:11:15 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-06T20:13:58 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@50-251-203-155-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T20:19:16 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydzzlt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T20:20:26 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@46.248.48.121] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T20:28:01 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T20:39:32 < Drzacek> I don't get it 2018-06-06T20:39:58 < Drzacek> I write perfectly logical and aesthetically pleasing code yet it doesn't work 2018-06-06T20:40:47 < Hamilton> I guess Steffanx was off IRC today 2018-06-06T20:41:13 < Steffanx> Steffanx was just very busy at work today 2018-06-06T20:41:17 < Hamilton> oh 2018-06-06T20:44:30 < antto> he must have some innovation to show us, or a veeeery good excuse 2018-06-06T20:46:30 < Drzacek> I do Hal_init, SystemClock_Config(), just like the cubemx wanted it to be, call MX_TIM1_Init() to set all the periods, prescalers and other crap, then call HAL_TIM_Base_St art_IT(&htim1); 2018-06-06T20:46:30 < Drzacek> , even implemented own HAL_TIM_PeriodElapsedCallback that increments counter, yet my delay_us just waits endlessly 2018-06-06T20:48:41 < Steffanx> My boss doesnt allow me to show you, antto 2018-06-06T20:49:30 < Steffanx> but one thng. it did not involve avr 2018-06-06T20:49:34 < Steffanx> nor pic 2018-06-06T20:49:49 < Steffanx> it was efm32 and some lpc. 2018-06-06T20:50:51 < qyx> is efm cool enough 2018-06-06T20:50:56 < Hamilton> Drzacek, Did you step-into debug it? Does the corresponding counter increment? 2018-06-06T20:51:20 < Drzacek> I placed breakpoint in the interrupt function, it never enters 2018-06-06T20:51:27 < Steffanx> Yeah, the happy gecko family i used isnt that bad at all, qyx 2018-06-06T20:52:23 < Hamilton> Drzacek, Did cubeMX generated the code or are did you re-write based on looking at cubemx? 2018-06-06T20:52:51 < Drzacek> Hamilton, yes 2018-06-06T20:53:08 < Hamilton> Drzacek, :) yes to which question? 2018-06-06T20:54:19 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-adiiihjtynyoimcl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-06T20:54:32 < Drzacek> cubemx generated the code hal_init etc, including the TIM1 init, but I added this n that - saw on youtube and polish tutorial HAL_TIM_Base_Start_IT(&htim1); 2018-06-06T20:54:32 < Drzacek> so I added it after the tim1init, and wrote my own HAL_TIM_PeriodElapsedCallback - it only increments a counter 2018-06-06T20:55:10 < Drzacek> I saw other examples that are totally different, funny enought they were also using hal functions, so I'm confused to the maximum 2018-06-06T20:55:41 < Drzacek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTOtXiJw1_Y 2018-06-06T20:57:36 < Hamilton> Drzacek, Did you also invoke HAL_NVIC_SetPriority() and HAL_NVIC_EnableIRQ()? 2018-06-06T20:58:45 < Drzacek> nope, I removed this earlier today (put it yesterday cause saw in other example, which didn't have HAL_TIM_BasestartIT 2018-06-06T21:06:19 < englishman> dongs https://www.suasnews.com/2018/06/fcc-proposes-2-8-million-fine-against-hobbyking-for-marketing-non-compliant-drone-transmitters/ 2018-06-06T21:06:49 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-45.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-06T21:10:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@50-251-203-155-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T21:12:44 < srk> awww 2018-06-06T21:13:09 < srk> looks like 1Watt one you can get from china :D 2018-06-06T21:13:19 < srk> 2W 2018-06-06T21:14:59 < srk> here we only have like 20mW allowed for 5.8Ghz 2018-06-06T21:22:51 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:22:51 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-06T21:22:51 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:23:21 < nn777> if I want to use HAL_SPI_TRANSMIT to send two 12 bit words, can I put the words into uint16_t, set the SPI to 12 bit words, and send two words? 2018-06-06T21:23:40 < nn777> or do I need to concatenate the two 12s into a 24 and then spit into three 8s? 2018-06-06T21:24:33 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Adde Parvum Parvo Magnus Acervus Erit] 2018-06-06T21:24:56 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:26:00 < srk> nn777: f4 or f7? 2018-06-06T21:26:08 < nn777> f303 2018-06-06T21:26:38 < srk> hmm 2018-06-06T21:27:06 < Steffanx> I assume 16 bit is the way to go 2018-06-06T21:28:20 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwF9MfW-xMU 2018-06-06T21:30:21 < nn777> looks like it only takes uint8_t 2018-06-06T21:31:08 < Steffanx> Isnt there some 16 bit write function? 2018-06-06T21:32:15 < srk> nn777: if you use 16 bit write it will detect it and send 16 bits 2018-06-06T21:32:24 < srk> Steffanx: yeah, there are both versions 2018-06-06T21:33:40 < Steffanx> I dont HAL, so it just say things that sound most logical :P 2018-06-06T21:36:03 < srk> I don't do HAL either :) 2018-06-06T21:36:12 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T21:37:13 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:38:38 < srk> I know these things cause we hack drivers in ivory tower to support new IP blocks 2018-06-06T21:38:50 < srk> lotsofheadscratching 2018-06-06T21:39:35 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.192.85] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:40:14 < Steffanx> Hows the usb thing going? 2018-06-06T21:40:27 < nn777> now comes the pointer shuffle... 2018-06-06T21:40:39 < Drzacek> had to fire up cubemx again and activate all nvics for tim1 2018-06-06T21:41:18 * Ultrasauce clears throat 2018-06-06T21:41:35 < nn777> "region `RAM' overflowed by 110896 bytes" ruh-roh 2018-06-06T21:42:09 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@46.248.48.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-06T21:42:09 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T21:42:25 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:43:17 < vampi-the-frog> rooby rooby roo 2018-06-06T21:43:45 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T21:44:24 < Steffanx> Hello Welcome, Ultrasauce 2018-06-06T21:44:41 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800b58a0059aed7b7349492a5.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-06T21:44:43 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:44:49 < Ultrasauce> hihi 2018-06-06T21:45:31 < nn777> Ultrasauce, so nice to see you 2018-06-06T21:46:19 < nn777> ../Drivers/STM32F3xx_HAL_Driver/Inc/stm32f3xx_hal_spi.h:643:19: note: expected 'uint8_t * {aka unsigned char *}' but argument is of type 'uint16_t {aka short unsigned int}' 2018-06-06T21:46:28 < nn777> hal doesn't seem to like the uint16 2018-06-06T21:46:59 < Ultrasauce> I am pretty sure what you want is well within the hardware's capabilities but it's not exactly surprising that HAL makes that case inaccessible 2018-06-06T21:47:39 < srk> Steffanx: laying down ground work - decided to generate whole library which provides family support so we will support for whole stm32 family - I'm now able to generate memory maps, register maps, interrupt table, linker scripts. what's next is IP blocks and their versions 2018-06-06T21:47:40 < nn777> I want to send two 12-bit words, and I'm just trying to figure out the best way to do that 2018-06-06T21:48:07 < srk> use multiple 8 bit writes? 2018-06-06T21:48:20 < nn777> that was my next guess 2018-06-06T21:48:21 < srk> not sure actually but if you use 16bit write it will clock 16 bits 2018-06-06T21:48:30 < srk> no matter what you set as transfer size 2018-06-06T21:49:56 < srk> Steffanx: now I'm reverse-egineering how IP blocks are versioned in CubeMX/db/mcu/IP and how many actual IP blocks there are :D 2018-06-06T21:51:48 < srk> Steffanx: week before I've managed to abstract drivers a bit so it's possible to have one binary that can generate code for f4 and f7 as well 2018-06-06T21:52:24 < englishman> srk: exactly, hobbyking is chinese but with some american subsidiary 2018-06-06T21:52:24 < srk> with no changes in the actual firmware code written by user 2018-06-06T21:52:43 < srk> englishman: huh, that's bad for them I guess cause they can sue them there :P 2018-06-06T21:53:17 < englishman> Ultrasauce how is the startup game? selling out yet? 2018-06-06T21:53:25 < srk> they can't sue aliexpress tho :D 2018-06-06T21:53:28 < englishman> can you 10x before labour day 2018-06-06T21:55:22 < Ultrasauce> eh development is dragging. just got back from a trade mission / market research trip to LA 2018-06-06T21:55:22 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T21:55:45 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T21:55:49 < englishman> ah yeah gotta spend all that investment capital before its gone 2018-06-06T21:55:53 < englishman> development can wait 2018-06-06T21:56:16 < Ultrasauce> aw ye 2018-06-06T21:56:31 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T21:56:41 < Steffanx> Wut, Ultrasauce is going abroad? 2018-06-06T21:56:46 < englishman> how are your potatoes growing? 2018-06-06T21:59:57 < Ultrasauce> probably pretty slowly, the weather sucks 2018-06-06T22:00:11 < Ultrasauce> frost warning tonight... 2018-06-06T22:00:19 < englishman> brrr!\ 2018-06-06T22:00:28 < englishman> back to LA asap, then 2018-06-06T22:00:32 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.192.85] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-06T22:00:43 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T22:00:44 < Steffanx> !wz LA 2018-06-06T22:00:46 < englishbot> [La Paz, Bolivia] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 15.2°C. North wind: 17.2 kph. 2018-06-06T22:00:50 < englishman> brrr 2018-06-06T22:00:50 < Ultrasauce> I'd rather be too cold than too hot. also got a wicked sunburn there 2018-06-06T22:01:09 < Steffanx> !wz los angeles 2018-06-06T22:01:10 < englishbot> [Los Angeles, California] Overcast. Temp is 19.4°C. WNW wind: 4.8 kph. Humidity: 74%. 2018-06-06T22:01:15 < Steffanx> better. 2018-06-06T22:01:21 < Ultrasauce> !wz yyg 2018-06-06T22:01:21 < englishbot> [YYG, Canada] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 9°C. NNE wind: 7 kph. Humidity: 82%. 2018-06-06T22:01:51 < englishman> !wz green gables 2018-06-06T22:01:52 < englishbot> [Green Gables, Canada] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 10.5°C. ESE wind: 4.8 kph. Humidity: 78%. 2018-06-06T22:02:10 < Ultrasauce> wait what 2018-06-06T22:02:17 < Steffanx> !wz maple 2018-06-06T22:02:18 < englishbot> [Maplewood, New Jersey] Overcast. Temp is 22.2°C. West wind: 1.6 kph. Humidity: 52%. 2018-06-06T22:02:57 < kakimir> !wz EFOU 2018-06-06T22:02:58 < englishbot> [EFOU, Finland] Overcast. Temp is 8°C but feels like 5°C. West wind: 22 kph. Humidity: 53%. 2018-06-06T22:03:03 < kakimir> winner 2018-06-06T22:03:18 < kakimir> !wz kaki 2018-06-06T22:03:19 < englishbot> [Kaki Barama, Niger] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 36°C. WSW wind: 11 kph. 2018-06-06T22:05:14 < Steffanx> is Ultrasauce very secretive about what he is innovating? 2018-06-06T22:06:26 < ohsix> Laurenceb: so you have to generate samples for a separate time series? 2018-06-06T22:06:39 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-06T22:06:46 < Laurenceb> but there is only one "real time" 2018-06-06T22:06:56 < Laurenceb> ALSA virtual devices solve this problem 2018-06-06T22:07:19 < Laurenceb> but they arent fault tolerant and handle different sample rates by resampling all channels to a consistent sample rate 2018-06-06T22:07:49 -!- hornang [~quassel@185.56.186.27] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T22:11:36 < englishman> kakimir irl https://i.imgur.com/xrcP7Ji.jpg 2018-06-06T22:12:01 < ohsix> Laurenceb: what's real time represent? quantify it, does it need to be accurate within a few us for a display or something? 2018-06-06T22:12:16 < Laurenceb> 100µs or so 2018-06-06T22:12:20 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-06T22:12:20 < ohsix> all the things you're measring are 'smooth' right? 2018-06-06T22:12:39 < Laurenceb> well frequencies go up to 500hz or so 2018-06-06T22:12:41 < ohsix> are they band limited? are there sources of information that have a higher frequency that you need to preserve? 2018-06-06T22:12:53 < Laurenceb> there is information up to 500hz 2018-06-06T22:13:01 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T22:13:18 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T22:14:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.60.152] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T22:14:45 < ohsix> that's 2ms 2018-06-06T22:15:08 < ohsix> do you mean the timestamps of the samples have to be accurate to 100us? 2018-06-06T22:15:13 < kakimir> englishman, looks dangerous 2018-06-06T22:15:21 < Laurenceb> ohsix: yeah 2018-06-06T22:15:36 < Laurenceb> not absolute time, but relative to each other 2018-06-06T22:16:17 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-06T22:16:21 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-06T22:16:45 < ohsix> k so the clock you get the timestamp from needs a correlator to all of the samples 2018-06-06T22:17:00 < ohsix> then you get accurate timestamps 2018-06-06T22:20:10 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T22:21:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.60.152] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-06T22:30:50 < m4t> someone leaked a mockup of the new github ui https://pasteboard.co/HoGfowl.png 2018-06-06T22:32:10 < upgrdman> needs moar tiles 2018-06-06T22:32:17 < upgrdman> and ribbons 2018-06-06T22:35:45 < Steffanx> Clippy 4 president 2018-06-06T22:36:06 < Laurenceb> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44386487 2018-06-06T22:36:17 < Laurenceb> >actors of restricted growth 2018-06-06T22:36:19 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-06T22:36:40 < Laurenceb> m4t: is that a troll or not? 2018-06-06T22:36:53 < m4t> def a troll 2018-06-06T22:37:00 < Laurenceb> u never know these days 2018-06-06T22:37:11 < srk> clippy4ever 2018-06-06T22:37:50 < upgrdman> i wonder when msft will release a new surface pro 2018-06-06T22:38:08 < Laurenceb> til "dwarfism" is hate speech 2018-06-06T22:38:11 < upgrdman> i could use a slightly better gpu 2018-06-06T22:39:09 < nn777> I'm trying to use this command HAL_SPI_Transmit(hspi, data, 3, 100); to send 24 bits but the code is raising the SS signal after every 8 bits. 2018-06-06T22:39:48 < stvn> BREAKING: Firefighters are battling a serious blaze at an exclusive London hotel that is visible across the city. 2018-06-06T22:40:00 < stvn> laurence has become isis 2018-06-06T22:40:54 < nn777> stvn, that's him? yesterday he was the granby tank guy 2018-06-06T22:41:30 < Steffanx> damnit you stvn. go sleep 2018-06-06T22:44:37 < Steffanx> ty 2018-06-06T22:45:56 < stvn> I have to work said somebody 2018-06-06T22:47:01 < Steffanx> at this god damn early hour? 2018-06-06T22:47:06 < Steffanx> *god damned 2018-06-06T22:50:42 < stvn> My friend gets up at 4.30 to go slaughter animals as an abbotoir 2018-06-06T22:51:29 < Steffanx> something with thee and pot. 2018-06-06T22:51:30 < Laurenceb> oh I think I seee.... 2018-06-06T22:51:35 < stvn> Nah he’s not black (abattoir) 2018-06-06T22:51:58 < Laurenceb> QProcess gets sigabrt when pipes to sub processes get 64kB of data in them 2018-06-06T22:54:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-06T22:57:00 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-06T22:58:27 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.61.49] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T22:59:12 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:8cc1:51f:dd1b:cd6d] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T23:19:38 < srk> m4t: https://johansen.software/github-xp/ 2018-06-06T23:24:53 -!- sferrini [sid115350@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ntawtvlyaucozhcn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-06T23:26:23 < m4t> hahah 2018-06-06T23:39:26 < englishman> altidumb 18.1.7 out 2018-06-06T23:42:57 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.61.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-06T23:44:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T23:49:39 < stvn> YEAAAAAAAAH 2018-06-06T23:49:52 < stvn> THE BEST ALTIUM YET 2018-06-06T23:53:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-06T23:54:22 < zyp> what did they break this time? 2018-06-06T23:54:31 < nn777> compatibility 2018-06-06T23:54:49 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-06T23:55:00 < stvn> China mate --- Day changed Thu Jun 07 2018 2018-06-07T00:02:53 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYLiMYGBE2Q 2018-06-07T00:03:03 < kakimir> document of the day 2018-06-07T00:04:25 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-07T00:06:37 -!- specing [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 2018-06-07T00:06:37 < stvn> It’s a fucking video you dirty coal miner 2018-06-07T00:07:23 < stvn> Also welcome 2018-06-07T00:09:18 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T00:12:36 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-07T00:12:37 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-07T00:12:48 < stvn> kakimir: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/feral-peacocks-are-attacking-luxury-cars-after-seeing-their-own-reflections/ 2018-06-07T00:13:02 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:8cc1:51f:dd1b:cd6d] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-07T00:14:05 < kakimir> that is englisman news 2018-06-07T00:14:19 < kakimir> british columbia 2018-06-07T00:15:10 < stvn> Cool 2018-06-07T00:27:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4db8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-07T00:30:34 < kakimir> dongs, do you overwork like japanise? 2018-06-07T00:31:20 < kakimir> oh it's sleep time there 2018-06-07T00:33:05 < kakimir> workers working like enterpreneurs here 2018-06-07T00:37:19 < Ultrasauce> innovating so hard 2018-06-07T00:37:21 < kakimir> *workers in japan 2018-06-07T00:37:25 < kakimir> not even 2018-06-07T00:37:44 < kakimir> production is not gained lineary 2018-06-07T00:37:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-07T00:49:40 < stvn> Dunno wtf you’re on about 2018-06-07T00:51:57 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-07T00:52:25 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T00:52:51 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-07T00:54:25 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T00:56:20 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T00:57:19 < englishman> of course it is 2018-06-07T00:57:26 < englishman> havent you read the book, the linear man-month 2018-06-07T00:57:42 < zyp> haha 2018-06-07T00:58:20 < stvn> I dun know 2018-06-07T00:58:54 < kakimir> this week I do every day 2hours OT 2018-06-07T00:59:03 < kakimir> get that third iteration out 2018-06-07T00:59:20 < kakimir> before weekend 2018-06-07T00:59:32 < kakimir> I leave for summer vacation 2018-06-07T00:59:58 < kakimir> for summer vacation I drive tractor 10-15hours a day 2018-06-07T01:02:07 < Ultrasauce> good vacation 2018-06-07T01:02:31 < Thorn> such is life in Finland 2018-06-07T01:03:03 < kakimir> it's better than not working 2018-06-07T01:06:44 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ musictimes 2018-06-07T01:08:15 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T01:10:57 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-07T01:11:05 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-07T01:22:41 < stvn> tractor is kakimirish for innovation 2018-06-07T01:29:35 -!- aandrew [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-07T01:30:37 -!- aandrew [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T01:30:48 -!- aandrew is now known as Guest32620 2018-06-07T01:37:14 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-07T01:39:40 -!- specing [~specing@unaffiliated/specing] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T02:09:14 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T02:18:38 < ohsix> TheSeven: oof just saw buffer, thanks! 2018-06-07T02:20:23 < ohsix> TheSeven: you mind if i do the pull request on the zypsnips version? or do you want to do it https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/aliexpress-tampermonkey 2018-06-07T02:20:38 < ohsix> hm .2 wasn't even up there 2018-06-07T02:20:50 < ohsix> zyp: it's up to 0.3! :D 09:18 < TheSeven> fixed it: https://paste.ee/p/eyjk0 @ohsix 2018-06-07T02:31:11 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T02:57:35 < mawk> in some button interrupt handler I'm writing something on the serial port for a rising edge, and something different for a falling edge 2018-06-07T02:57:51 < mawk> and if I hit the button fast enough, something the thing for falling edge gets printed twice before the thing for rising edge gets printed 2018-06-07T02:57:56 < mawk> this isn't supposed to happen, right ? 2018-06-07T02:58:20 < mawk> or some hysteresis magickery is taking place 2018-06-07T03:00:09 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T03:01:37 < mawk> I'm writing stuff on the serial port in some HAL callback function 2018-06-07T03:01:42 < mawk> maybe it isn't ISR context anymore 2018-06-07T03:02:08 < Laurenceb_> Genius post. Everyone's laughing. Got my speakers turned up loud. EPIC! 2018-06-07T03:02:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-07T03:03:30 < mawk> calm down Laurenceb_ 2018-06-07T03:04:07 < Laurenceb_> if he's good enough for me he's good enough for you 2018-06-07T03:04:44 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29SgrIR1yfU 2018-06-07T03:06:13 < dongs> englishman: hey , i ahve the one thats in that picture 2018-06-07T03:06:41 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T03:06:41 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-07T03:06:43 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-07T03:12:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T03:15:42 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-07T03:28:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-07T03:28:53 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T03:37:16 -!- Guest32620 is now known as aandrew 2018-06-07T03:41:44 < Laurenceb_> argggg muh G.U.I. 2018-06-07T03:41:55 < Laurenceb_> why cant I just track ip addresses in visual basic 2018-06-07T03:42:32 < Laurenceb_> muh segfault 2018-06-07T03:45:10 -!- mickjc75 [~Mick@203.217.28.130] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T04:11:27 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/N2T4Zys.gifv 2018-06-07T04:12:53 -!- Viper7 [~ident@C-210-10-141-113.can.connect.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T04:37:47 < nn777> I think the think I like best about TrueSTUDIO is the formatting customization 2018-06-07T04:38:40 < nn777> s/think\(.*\)think/think\1thing/ 2018-06-07T04:41:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-07T04:46:01 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B08150C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T04:46:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T04:50:10 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32470.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-07T04:51:02 < jadew> nn777, that regex is wrong 2018-06-07T04:51:26 < jadew> it won't match 2018-06-07T04:51:34 < nn777> really? 2018-06-07T04:51:39 < Laurenceb_> rage-ex 2018-06-07T04:51:50 < jadew> \( \) 2018-06-07T04:51:59 < jadew> that means literal ( ), not a capturing group 2018-06-07T04:52:15 < branjb> any tools out there to download all files from a facebook group? any search term with download and facebook in it returns a million SEO spam sites 2018-06-07T04:52:20 < branjb> figured this would be easier 2018-06-07T04:52:22 < nn777> $ echo "I think the think I like best" | sed "s/think\(.*\)think/think\1thing/" 2018-06-07T04:52:22 < nn777> I think the thing I like best 2018-06-07T04:52:57 < jadew> that works because you're passing it inside a quoted string 2018-06-07T04:53:03 < jadew> and \( means ( 2018-06-07T04:54:02 < jadew> it would be wrong in perl for example, or anywhere, where it wouldn't be inside a string 2018-06-07T04:54:46 < nn777> $ echo "I think the think I like best" | sed s/think\\\(.*\\\)think/think\\1thing/ 2018-06-07T04:55:14 < nn777> quit trying to back-peddle from your wrong statement :) 2018-06-07T04:55:54 < jadew> it's not wrong, you don't express regexes with extra escaping, without a context 2018-06-07T04:57:05 < nn777> take a deep breath. Everything will be ok. 2018-06-07T04:59:19 < jadew> I bet you work great with others 2018-06-07T05:00:57 < nn777> *sigh* unfortunately not 2018-06-07T05:01:48 < jadew> I'm sure it has nothing to do with the way you take constructive criticism 2018-06-07T05:01:52 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-07T05:01:54 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T05:04:05 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-07T05:05:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-07T05:08:55 < nn777> I think all of my regex is done from bash 2018-06-07T05:09:08 < nn777> hmm.. that would explain why I couldn't get a match to work right in notepad++ 2018-06-07T05:10:38 < nn777> I learned something here today 2018-06-07T05:10:42 < nn777> jadew, sorry for being snarky 2018-06-07T05:10:49 < jadew> np 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stvn> wb mr z 2018-06-07T11:39:34 < stvn> I did my happy day today, testing products to destruction 2018-06-07T11:39:51 < zyp> fun 2018-06-07T11:41:52 < Haohmaru> stvn, aka you gave it to a child? 2018-06-07T11:43:45 < stvn> Alpha & omega semiconductor - lol 2018-06-07T11:54:46 < stvn> Tripped my fucken CB-RCD 2018-06-07T11:55:46 < stvn> Good to see the fuse wasn’t damaged in the psu 2018-06-07T12:00:49 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ntKYrODb/lol.JPG 2018-06-07T12:00:57 < stvn> Can’t say much for the rest 2018-06-07T12:01:13 < zyp> haha 2018-06-07T12:02:32 < stvn> 15 degrees C ambient 2018-06-07T12:07:47 -!- CygniX [~CygniX@opensuse/member/CygniX] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-07T12:08:14 -!- CygniX [~CygniX@opensuse/member/CygniX] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T12:10:11 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T12:11:19 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T12:31:27 -!- tomeaton17 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arrow!) 2018-06-07T13:08:44 < dongs> arrow supports indiegogo 2018-06-07T13:08:48 < dongs> they can go fuck themselves 2018-06-07T13:09:57 < karlp> heh, order for more than $50 and you can get a free rpi 2018-06-07T13:16:00 < zyp> like, rpi zero or rpi 3? 2018-06-07T13:16:36 < Haohmaru> smells like there will be soon a new "rpi" so they're getting rid of the current models 2018-06-07T13:17:17 < dongs> isnt there already some new trash 2018-06-07T13:17:23 < dongs> with 64bit broadcom 2018-06-07T13:17:33 < dongs> and "gigabit" ethernet still connected by usb2.0 2018-06-07T13:17:53 < dongs> youd think with all the fucking cash negroberrypi foundation poured into broadcom they could make a chip with built in ethernet mac 2018-06-07T13:18:09 < zyp> rpi3 is already 64bit 2018-06-07T13:18:17 < dongs> thats what i meant with "new" 2018-06-07T13:18:24 < dongs> theres that new one with metal heatsink on teh chip 2018-06-07T13:18:28 < zyp> but yeah, there's a 3+ with gigabit stuff also 2018-06-07T13:18:28 < dongs> instead of PoP 2018-06-07T13:18:37 < zyp> and wiring for PoE 2018-06-07T13:18:37 < dongs> what's arrow giving away? 2018-06-07T13:18:38 < dongs> 3? 2018-06-07T13:18:41 < dongs> or B+ 2018-06-07T13:18:43 < dongs> 2B+ 2018-06-07T13:18:44 < dongs> or wahtever 2018-06-07T13:18:48 < zyp> that was my question also 2018-06-07T13:20:40 < Haohmaru> n-word-berrypi >:) 2018-06-07T13:21:59 < c10ud> I have a dream where the rpi is going to put an onboard flash and a few uarts on its gpios 2018-06-07T13:22:20 < c10ud> possibily in a beagle-black-like form factor 2018-06-07T13:22:25 < dongs> ? you mean the compute module? 2018-06-07T13:22:42 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-07T13:22:47 < c10ud> yes I've seen that some time ago 2018-06-07T13:23:14 < Haohmaru> you mean, on-board flash instead of sdcard? 2018-06-07T13:23:16 < dongs> CM1 and CM3 non-L has onboard flash 2018-06-07T13:23:22 < dongs> emmc 2018-06-07T13:23:30 < dongs> and CM3L you can make a carrier wiht your own emmc externally 2018-06-07T13:23:38 < Haohmaru> some olinuxinos have on-board flash 2018-06-07T13:23:42 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T13:25:03 < Steffanx> Dont say the n-word, Haohmaru 2018-06-07T13:25:23 < Haohmaru> can i say En-Wurd? 2018-06-07T13:25:31 < Haohmaru> pls 2018-06-07T13:26:45 < c10ud> I just like the fact that I can flash my beagle-black out of the box without fucking around 2018-06-07T13:27:07 < c10ud> also the virtual eth is helpful while haxing 2018-06-07T13:27:26 < c10ud> only thing I need from the rpi is the video core 2018-06-07T13:27:45 < c10ud> as am335x sucks 2018-06-07T13:28:14 < zyp> surely there's other ARM SBCs with decent GPUs? 2018-06-07T13:29:15 < c10ud> with less than 50$? 2018-06-07T13:29:23 < c10ud> gpus and decent software support 2018-06-07T13:31:01 < zyp> I believe the odroids are decent, but I don't have any experience with those 2018-06-07T13:31:39 < zyp> then there's a ton of allwinner shit that seems to have decent enough support, but I don't know how their GPUs are 2018-06-07T13:32:10 < karlp> bootlin(old free electrons) is currently on a big push to get allwinner gpu support properly all sorted out in upstream 2018-06-07T13:32:13 < srk> c10ud: we also dream of flash where you can put your own bootloader for netboot :D 2018-06-07T13:32:42 < srk> also adc and can 2018-06-07T13:32:44 < zyp> srk, some of the orange pis have that 2018-06-07T13:32:51 < srk> odroids are nice 2018-06-07T13:33:00 < srk> zyp: cool, gonna check 2018-06-07T13:33:04 < c10ud> beagle has adc and can 2018-06-07T13:33:05 < zyp> they run from sd card, but they also have a small spi flash where you can put the bootloader 2018-06-07T13:33:31 < Haohmaru> zyp, mali gpus in the olinuxinos i've dealt with 2018-06-07T13:33:38 < Haohmaru> "mali400" or some such 2018-06-07T13:33:49 < srk> zyp: wow! :) 2018-06-07T13:34:38 < c10ud> I remember many years ago I was looking at some of the first odroids that was running some arm beast but getting it was really difficult, iirc they were japanese or korean 2018-06-07T13:34:46 < c10ud> (and pricey) 2018-06-07T13:34:53 < zyp> odroid is made by a korean company, yes 2018-06-07T13:35:31 < srk> I have one xu4 which is crazy fast, want to use it as a canopen master during development/testing then switch to beaglebone 2018-06-07T13:35:59 < dongs> i'm using jewdroidC2 as media player. works pretty good for that 2018-06-07T13:36:05 < dongs> it has the retarded rageberry 20pin connector 2018-06-07T13:36:17 < dongs> and you can buy a eMMC socket for it instead of SD card 2018-06-07T13:37:09 < srk> dongs: they also make hateberry just for you 2018-06-07T13:37:11 -!- tcurdt [~tcurdt@5.189.136.58] has left ##stm32 ["Later!"] 2018-06-07T13:37:48 < Haohmaru> >:) 2018-06-07T13:38:54 -!- tcurdt [~tcurdt@5.189.136.58] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T13:39:11 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2018-06-07T14:23:38 < dongs> Thorn: manual nudge with keyboard = fucked, and the rest of the shit is related 2018-06-07T14:23:40 < dongs> i.e. select net name 2018-06-07T14:23:44 < dongs> and ctrl+arrow keys 2018-06-07T14:23:52 < dongs> it'll snap to beginning of net wire and can't move 2018-06-07T14:24:48 < dongs> nope nothing in schematic options. 2018-06-07T14:26:39 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T14:34:40 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T14:42:06 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-07T14:42:48 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.194.120] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T14:42:55 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T14:56:59 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@151.244.194.120] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-07T14:57:12 < dongs> MOTHERFUCKER 2018-06-07T14:57:54 < Haohmaru> oh noes 2018-06-07T14:58:13 < dongs> shift-E 2018-06-07T14:58:16 < dongs> per-document, too 2018-06-07T14:58:18 < dongs> holy fuck 2018-06-07T14:58:22 < dongs> annoying as FUCKING BALLS 2018-06-07T14:58:31 < Haohmaru> wut does shift-E do? 2018-06-07T14:58:34 < dongs> everything's back to normal 2018-06-07T14:58:40 < dongs> the retarded altifuck snap 2018-06-07T15:00:29 < kakimir> can I simulate dick and placement 2018-06-07T15:01:11 < kakimir> I just need to check if my kikecad / I made all the needed placements to pos file 2018-06-07T15:03:05 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-07T15:06:09 < Haohmaru> kakimir doesn't talk stm32-ish in other channels 2018-06-07T15:06:39 < kakimir> I speak to dongs 2018-06-07T15:06:56 < kakimir> gurutalk 2018-06-07T15:08:43 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T15:08:48 < kakimir> de faq is virtual component 2018-06-07T15:08:55 < kakimir> not THT, not SMD 2018-06-07T15:09:09 < kakimir> it means like.. do not populate 2018-06-07T15:09:10 < kakimir> ? 2018-06-07T15:09:27 < Haohmaru> it's like.. a 2-pin footprint where you'll be soldering wires for power 2018-06-07T15:09:36 < kakimir> kay 2018-06-07T15:09:48 < kakimir> 'kay 2018-06-07T15:09:51 < Haohmaru> you are not gonna be putting a component - nothing in pick&place files, nothing in BOM.. 2018-06-07T15:09:54 < Haohmaru> that's "virtual" 2018-06-07T15:10:00 < Haohmaru> another example is a logo footprint 2018-06-07T15:10:09 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-07T15:10:23 < kakimir> well there will be a component 2018-06-07T15:10:32 < kakimir> but it will be soldered by hand 2018-06-07T15:10:47 < Haohmaru> another example: 01x10_pin_header - if you would be putting the actual headers - it's "normal/THT", but if you just want the 10 holes - "virtual" 2018-06-07T15:12:03 < kakimir> I have opt passive on the board 2018-06-07T15:12:10 < kakimir> no value set 2018-06-07T15:12:33 < kakimir> but I rather keep it in bom and shiet 2018-06-07T15:12:38 < kakimir> and have placement for it 2018-06-07T15:12:48 < Haohmaru> "opt passive" ? 2018-06-07T15:13:00 < kakimir> I just leave it as surface mount 2018-06-07T15:13:05 < kakimir> they can deal with it 2018-06-07T15:13:11 < kakimir> it changes mode of the board 2018-06-07T15:13:13 < kakimir> if shorted 2018-06-07T15:13:28 < Haohmaru> uhm, in any case, you should check yer generated .pos file 2018-06-07T15:14:10 < Haohmaru> i was preparing .pos for just one project so far, but it never reached the point to be actually used, so.. i can't be of much help 2018-06-07T15:14:54 < Haohmaru> but i split the components into two groups - one which will be assembled by the assembly fabhouse, and another one which will be assembled by us 2018-06-07T15:15:22 < Haohmaru> so i had 2 BOMs plus a 3rd one "everything" 2018-06-07T15:15:40 < Haohmaru> however, i was gonna have to manually remove stuff from the .pos file iir 2018-06-07T15:15:42 < Haohmaru> * iirc 2018-06-07T15:15:57 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-07T15:16:00 < kakimir> that is the way 2018-06-07T15:16:05 < Haohmaru> i don't remember whether the extra fields from the schematic were transfered into the .pos file 2018-06-07T15:16:05 < kakimir> to keep shiet in bom 2018-06-07T15:16:11 < kakimir> and not in placement file 2018-06-07T15:16:32 < kakimir> tell me how do I see number of components 2018-06-07T15:16:41 < Haohmaru> if they are - then i can use the "Config" field (which is used to split the BOM) for easily removing the "inhouse" components from the .pos 2018-06-07T15:17:17 < kakimir> where is component statistics 2018-06-07T15:17:25 < kakimir> bom can't not be relied on this issue 2018-06-07T15:17:31 < Haohmaru> le wat? 2018-06-07T15:19:22 < kakimir> number of components 2018-06-07T15:19:27 < kakimir> for pos comparisson 2018-06-07T15:19:31 < kakimir> it lacks some 2018-06-07T15:19:40 < kakimir> virtual components to say 2018-06-07T15:19:46 < Haohmaru> no idea 2018-06-07T15:19:54 < Haohmaru> i use KiBOM 2018-06-07T15:20:04 < kakimir> mee too 2018-06-07T15:20:13 < kakimir> #metoo 2018-06-07T15:20:16 < Haohmaru> it can generate .html files with fancy colorful tables and stats 2018-06-07T15:20:24 < kakimir> #rainbows 2018-06-07T15:20:42 < kakimir> okay this board looks to have right attributes 2018-06-07T15:20:45 < kakimir> seems to 2018-06-07T15:20:49 < Haohmaru> but i modify the bom.ini file a lil bit to further split things based on my "BOM_Comment" field 2018-06-07T15:21:04 < kakimir> tell me about it 2018-06-07T15:21:43 < Haohmaru> well, for example, if i have two identical 100uF caps - they gonna be grouped into one column in the BOM .html, with a quantity of 2 2018-06-07T15:22:11 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-07T15:22:15 < Haohmaru> but in the schematic, i could put a comment on one of them, saying "Use Low ESR only!! or u suck!" 2018-06-07T15:22:16 < kakimir> I have noticed 2018-06-07T15:22:25 < kakimir> I can butt that also 2018-06-07T15:22:34 < kakimir> chinaboi puts cheapest possible cap there 2018-06-07T15:22:37 < Haohmaru> but normally KiBOM will not split the 100uF cap into two 2018-06-07T15:22:49 < kakimir> how to split like that? 2018-06-07T15:22:56 < Haohmaru> hold on 2018-06-07T15:24:05 < Haohmaru> so, in bom.ini (this file gets auto-generated in your project dir, the first time you run kibom) under the section [GROUP_FIELDS] 2018-06-07T15:24:16 < Haohmaru> add your custom field name there 2018-06-07T15:24:28 < Haohmaru> "BOM_Comment" in my case 2018-06-07T15:24:56 < Haohmaru> and then if there are two caps and everything is the same but the BOM_Comment is not - they will be on sepparate columns in the .html 2018-06-07T15:25:25 < kakimir> have you noted that if you do to say 2018-06-07T15:25:32 < kakimir> Power rating and Power Rating 2018-06-07T15:25:44 < Haohmaru> actually, that also applies to the .csv output too, not just the html 2018-06-07T15:25:58 < kakimir> there is some sort of bug that it only shows ones with certain upper or lowercase 2018-06-07T15:28:00 < dongs> some kikad users 2018-06-07T15:28:02 < Haohmaru> well, when it merges multiple components - the values in the insignificant fields may turn into "wtf" ;P~ 2018-06-07T15:29:05 < Haohmaru> it's kakimir's fault, he asks kicad questions here instead of in the proper channel 2018-06-07T15:29:30 < Haohmaru> despite his awareness that kicad is not respected much in here 2018-06-07T15:29:50 * Haohmaru kicks kakimir into #kicad 2018-06-07T15:33:05 < Haohmaru> i recently had to merge merge the BOMs of 3 boards together so we can order the parts 2018-06-07T15:33:19 < Haohmaru> i wrote some fugly mirc scripts to do it 2018-06-07T15:33:30 < Haohmaru> --merge; 2018-06-07T15:34:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-07T15:35:15 < Laurenceb> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5814175/Love-Island-Laura-makes-crude-observation-Wes-manhood-steamy.html 2018-06-07T15:35:23 < Laurenceb> >20 year old Electrical and Nuclear Systems Design Engineer 2018-06-07T15:35:31 < Laurenceb> Fukushima 2.0 incoming 2018-06-07T15:35:38 < dongs> gross 2018-06-07T15:35:59 < Laurenceb> >20 years old 2018-06-07T15:36:13 < Laurenceb> >Nuclear systems designer 2018-06-07T15:36:17 < Laurenceb> cool story bro 2018-06-07T15:36:58 < Haohmaru> eh? that girl in the picture is 20 years old? 2018-06-07T15:37:22 < kakimir> is there tool that can simulate pick and place 2018-06-07T15:37:26 < kakimir> take to say gerbers 2018-06-07T15:37:40 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/4s68LOA tfw I go on tinder 2018-06-07T15:37:41 < kakimir> and then virtual dick and placing 3d process on the screen 2018-06-07T15:37:51 < Haohmaru> kakimir, maybe an actual program that controls the pick&place machine 2018-06-07T15:38:10 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-07T15:38:11 < Haohmaru> if it could let you "run" it without having the actual machine 2018-06-07T15:38:17 < kakimir> dry run 2018-06-07T15:38:36 < Haohmaru> but i have no idea (would like to know tho) 2018-06-07T15:39:31 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft56il9bGMk music times 2018-06-07T15:39:59 < kakimir> shoegazers 2018-06-07T15:40:50 < Haohmaru> we will supposedly be getting a small-ish pick&place machine here.. soon-ish 2018-06-07T15:40:55 < Haohmaru> x_x 2018-06-07T15:42:27 < kakimir> soon boi 2018-06-07T15:42:44 < Haohmaru> yah mane 2018-06-07T15:57:50 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/Jy8A2U1 2018-06-07T15:57:51 < Laurenceb> woah 2018-06-07T15:58:01 < Laurenceb> r u s s i a n s 2018-06-07T15:58:53 < Laurenceb> >hes about to get dug in 2018-06-07T15:59:29 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-07T15:59:41 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T16:01:18 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-07T16:08:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T16:13:52 < kakimir> third iteration of the project is send for evaluation 2018-06-07T16:13:58 < kakimir> I'm fucking done 2018-06-07T16:16:10 < Haohmaru> 2018-06-07T16:16:41 < englishman> why not make one good one? 2018-06-07T16:16:48 < Haohmaru> i'm also waiting for those 3 new pcbs to be ready 2018-06-07T16:16:57 < Haohmaru> englishman, pls 2018-06-07T16:19:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T16:20:10 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-07T16:20:20 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T16:23:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-07T16:30:28 < stvn> wtf is that Laurenceb 2018-06-07T16:30:52 < stvn> i recognise none of those ppl 2018-06-07T16:31:34 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B08150C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-07T16:31:53 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B08150C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T16:32:34 < Laurenceb> Putins top man and the queen of the alt-right 2018-06-07T16:32:42 < Laurenceb> russian haxors confirmed 2018-06-07T16:36:06 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T16:42:27 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/4s68LOA stvn sisters? 2018-06-07T16:43:09 < stvn> dirty 2018-06-07T16:44:45 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/qJhdL4M haha vodka amirite looooooooool gonna squat hahaaaaaaaaaa just a couple of rich girls copying russian underclass so funnyyyyyyyyyyy 2018-06-07T16:45:32 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6011:1b2b:a19e:b3f5:8927:6247] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T17:00:11 < stvn> dummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 2018-06-07T17:00:25 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6011:1b2b:a19e:b3f5:8927:6247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-07T17:03:34 < stvn> got any fucken GaN devices mate? 2018-06-07T17:09:26 < kakimir> tell me 2018-06-07T17:09:40 < kakimir> how did you feel when your first product was going into production? 2018-06-07T17:09:52 < sync> #YOLO 2018-06-07T17:09:59 < kakimir> little bit pee in pants? 2018-06-07T17:10:09 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T17:12:09 < englishman> http://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/stsw-bnrg-mesh.html 2018-06-07T17:12:28 < englishman> looks a lot cheaper than Thread devices 2018-06-07T17:12:40 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YM56-V9HXRkPemK4VsODy8Xa__9SFra0/view?usp=sharing time to test some hall sensors 2018-06-07T17:13:25 < englishman> BlueNRG-Mesh is built on top of the the Motorola Mesh over Bluetooth low energy 2018-06-07T17:13:25 < englishman> technology (MoBLE), with further application and networking features added by ST. 2018-06-07T17:13:56 < Laurenceb> cant spell CUCK without the UK! 2018-06-07T17:15:41 < day> are these J-link adapter worth buying? 2018-06-07T17:15:46 < day> adapters* 2018-06-07T17:17:52 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-07T17:18:25 < aandrew> mawk: bad implementation of a CMSIS RTOS? which is this? 2018-06-07T17:18:39 < englishman> day: which one? legit or chinaclone? which version? 2018-06-07T17:18:50 < aandrew> stvn: what's wrong with A&O semi? they make some ice stuff 2018-06-07T17:19:07 < day> well if i were to buy one its either the EDU or a china clone. 2018-06-07T17:20:13 < stvn> aandrew: i think their igbt ratings are a bit imaginary 2018-06-07T17:20:55 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T17:27:04 < kakimir> day, yes 2018-06-07T17:35:55 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 2018-06-07T17:37:09 < karlp> englishman: thread's gonna get killed, just like all of 802.15.4, it's gonna be a footnote with some vendor lockin. 2018-06-07T17:37:20 < englishman> wut 2018-06-07T17:37:31 < englishman> isnt openthread the most common implementation 2018-06-07T17:37:53 < karlp> not vendor software, it will be vendor hardware that preserves all the 802.15.4 crap 2018-06-07T17:38:06 < karlp> be it thread or zigbee or 6lowpan 2018-06-07T17:39:28 < englishman> like bluetooth? 2018-06-07T17:39:46 < karlp> no, bluetooth is what will make it obsolete 2018-06-07T17:40:19 < englishman> i'm certainly much more likely to start hacking on a nucleo+external spi radio than i am the new nrf52832 2018-06-07T17:41:01 < Laurenceb> https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/rree20/current 2018-06-07T17:41:12 < Laurenceb> looks like I need to submit some papers 2018-06-07T17:44:39 < stvn> hi laurence 2018-06-07T17:45:45 < Laurenceb> muh gui 2018-06-07T17:45:49 < Laurenceb> dis shit is broken 2018-06-07T17:46:37 < Laurenceb> dis function is asscancer https://pastebin.com/6ZBbeBbY 2018-06-07T17:47:00 < nn777> I'm using stmcube. When I added a USART2 and regenerated my code, the compiler complains about undefined reference to "hal_uart_init" 2018-06-07T17:47:47 < karlp> lost on an inner vertex of the timecube. 2018-06-07T17:48:18 < nn777> how do I access said vertex? 2018-06-07T17:49:57 < karlp> expand your mind twice, then walk backwards around the build system of the day that you're using, and check that the glorious cube included all files properly. 2018-06-07T17:50:07 < stvn> was waiting for that 2018-06-07T17:50:29 < nn777> I've never been able to expand twice in a short period of time 2018-06-07T17:51:16 < nn777> is there a shortcut version? 2018-06-07T17:53:24 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-07T17:56:05 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-07T18:09:41 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE5-qC5Sx9g more shoegaze 2018-06-07T18:09:46 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T18:09:46 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-07T18:09:46 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T18:12:04 -!- inca [~inca@159.63.7.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T18:17:15 < Laurenceb> lul this "journal" is epic lulz 2018-06-07T18:18:03 < Laurenceb> >Historically the British working-class would not have been considered white 2018-06-07T18:18:22 < Laurenceb> >youth subcultures are identified as separate races 2018-06-07T18:18:42 < Laurenceb> le incel masterrace confirmed 2018-06-07T18:19:08 < Laurenceb> the absolute state on sociology and anthropology 2018-06-07T18:19:12 < Laurenceb> *of 2018-06-07T18:23:01 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T18:24:10 < Cracki> what did they smoke 2018-06-07T18:24:48 < Cracki> Laurenceb, who wrote that asscancer function 2018-06-07T18:24:56 < Laurenceb> Cracki: me 2018-06-07T18:25:09 < Cracki> you must be some kind of engineer 2018-06-07T18:25:14 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-07T18:25:25 < Laurenceb> I was a bit high at the time 2018-06-07T18:26:20 < Laurenceb> tiem to draw some flow diagrams 2018-06-07T18:26:29 * Cracki .oO( http://thirdmonk.net/postcont/2013/08/drugwebs.jpg ) 2018-06-07T18:26:40 < Laurenceb> it made snese when I wrote it.... 2018-06-07T18:27:05 < Laurenceb> accurate 2018-06-07T18:27:13 < Cracki> needs refactoring 2018-06-07T18:27:24 < Laurenceb> yeah I'm half way through rewriting it 2018-06-07T18:27:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-07T18:27:47 < Cracki> it's certainly well commented code 2018-06-07T18:27:48 < Laurenceb> up to line 96 is somewhat more sane 2018-06-07T18:30:00 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T18:31:01 < nn777> I've created a project with cube, enabled the usart interrupt, but I can't get code to work unless I add "NVIC_EnableIRQ(USART2_IRQn);" 2018-06-07T18:31:27 < nn777> but I find examples online where people don't need that line. I'm trying to figure out what I don't understand about all of this. 2018-06-07T18:31:30 < Cracki> *the* usart interrupt? 2018-06-07T18:32:08 < nn777> in the "NVIC Configuration" I have "USART2 global interrupt / USART2 wake-up interrupt through EXTI line 26" checked 2018-06-07T18:32:10 < Laurenceb> this function is to c++ as the whiteness journal is to actual anthropology 2018-06-07T18:32:36 < c10ud> Laurenceb, I'd spend some time with making it readable style-wise 2018-06-07T18:32:44 < Laurenceb> yeah 2018-06-07T18:33:33 < karlp> nn777: you should take this up with the timecube support hotline 2018-06-07T18:35:44 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-07T18:37:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-07T18:38:24 < nn777> karlp, if there was one, I'd happy pay 2018-06-07T18:38:28 < nn777> happily 2018-06-07T18:42:20 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-07T18:47:33 < nn777> weird, the ##electronics channel is much more receptive to being hired as consultants. 2018-06-07T18:48:37 < zyp> you mean, they have more US people there? 2018-06-07T18:49:08 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@91.92.144.105] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T18:49:08 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@91.92.144.105] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-07T18:49:08 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T18:49:15 < Thorn> they simply don't know what they're getting into 2018-06-07T18:49:16 < nn777> I don't care if they're US people or not 2018-06-07T18:49:24 < karlp> nn777: sow hat's the real problem? 2018-06-07T18:49:35 < karlp> does it generate the irq line for you for usart3 and 4 but not usart2? 2018-06-07T18:49:36 < nn777> karlp, that I don't know what I'm doing 2018-06-07T18:49:44 < karlp> that would only be fixable in cube. 2018-06-07T18:49:47 < zyp> nn777, weren't this about this super secret PID tuning? 2018-06-07T18:49:54 < zyp> or am I confusing people now? 2018-06-07T18:50:07 < nn777> zyp, I already hired a consultant for that. I'm just trying to figure out this stm32 stuff. 2018-06-07T18:50:51 < zyp> what stuff? 2018-06-07T18:50:54 < Laurenceb> https://media.8ch.net/file_store/988e363f3eaf5fc4b24f20fb1cf2ead1d2ea52b0764af704a2afaf3cdfc17af7.png 2018-06-07T18:51:44 < nn777> zyp, yesterday I was trying to generate a clock. Today I'm trying to communicate via the usart. 2018-06-07T18:52:14 < zyp> regarding interrupts, they generally need to be enabled both in the peripheral and the NVIC 2018-06-07T18:52:46 < Thorn> usart can generate clock btw in case it's a part of the same problem 2018-06-07T18:53:30 < zyp> consider that the peripheral and the interrupt controller are different modules, with an IRQ line running between them 2018-06-07T18:53:56 < zyp> in the interrupt controller, you have to enable which IRQ lines you want to respond to, that's what NVIC_EnableIRQ() does 2018-06-07T18:54:21 < nn777> I'm just getting inconsistent results 2018-06-07T18:54:28 < zyp> but then you also have to enable in the peripheral which events that would assert the IRQ line 2018-06-07T18:54:48 < nn777> I have the NVIC_EnableIRQ(USART2_IRQn) line commented out, but the UART_Transmit_IT is still working 2018-06-07T18:55:12 < zyp> working how? to send one byte or to send many bytes? 2018-06-07T18:55:31 < nn777> it's sending the string over and over 2018-06-07T18:55:51 < nn777> i have a timer which has a uart_transmit_it line in it 2018-06-07T18:56:32 < nn777> I'm playing with the NVIC Configuration check boxes in cube, but it's not making sense. 2018-06-07T18:56:42 < zyp> which chip is this? 2018-06-07T18:56:52 < zyp> and what doesn't make sense? 2018-06-07T18:57:40 < nn777> why uart_transmit_it is working but I haven't turned on the interrupt in nvic 2018-06-07T18:59:10 < zyp> have you tried checking whether it's actually on or off? 2018-06-07T18:59:34 < nn777> ok, maybe I'm just confused. HAL_UART_Transmit_IT is actually working without calling NVIC_enableirq 2018-06-07T18:59:38 < nn777> how do I check that? 2018-06-07T18:59:54 < zyp> how's your debugging setup? 2018-06-07T19:00:07 < nn777> I have TrueSTUDIO 2018-06-07T19:00:09 < zyp> and which chip is this? 2018-06-07T19:00:29 < nn777> stm32f303 on a nucleo-64 2018-06-07T19:03:22 < zyp> okay, which uart is this? 2018-06-07T19:03:29 < nn777> ah, I found the nvic register in the debugger 2018-06-07T19:03:33 < nn777> usart2 2018-06-07T19:05:13 < zyp> getting any wiser? 2018-06-07T19:05:26 < nn777> slowly 2018-06-07T19:07:10 < nn777> I'm trying to translate between the register names in TrueSTUDIO and those in the reference manual 2018-06-07T19:07:36 < zyp> yeah? 2018-06-07T19:07:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T19:07:52 < zyp> which are you looking at? 2018-06-07T19:08:12 < nn777> NVIC: ICTR, ISER0, ICER0, ISPR0, IABR0, IPR0... 2018-06-07T19:08:51 < nn777> ah, there's the description. seems unrelated to what I'm looking for 2018-06-07T19:09:08 < zyp> no, they are the ones 2018-06-07T19:09:55 < zyp> what's the value of ISER1? 2018-06-07T19:10:10 < nn777> 0x40 2018-06-07T19:10:23 < nn777> what makes you look at ISER1? 2018-06-07T19:10:47 < zyp> ISER1 contains enable bits for IRQ32-63, USART2 is IRQ38 2018-06-07T19:10:57 < zyp> 0x40 indicates IRQ38 is enabled 2018-06-07T19:11:05 < nn777> ok, how did you figure that out? 2018-06-07T19:11:23 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.193] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T19:11:28 < zyp> what in particular? 2018-06-07T19:11:50 < nn777> where can I go to know what ISER1 contains? 2018-06-07T19:12:15 < nn777> I found that USART2 is IRQ38 2018-06-07T19:12:51 < zyp> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.100166_0001_00_en/ric1417449125914.html <- here for instance 2018-06-07T19:13:27 < zyp> there's another more detailed description somewhere, but I didn't find now, it's pretty intuitive anyway 2018-06-07T19:14:37 < zyp> each register has 32 bits, so ISER0 holds the enable bits for 0..31, ISER1 holds the enable bits for 32..63 and so on 2018-06-07T19:14:48 < zyp> 38 falls in the ISER1 range, so that's what you want to look at 2018-06-07T19:15:12 < zyp> 38 % 32 is 6, and 1 << 6 is the 0x40 you read out 2018-06-07T19:15:20 < englishman> karlp: returned these nrf52832 boards to digijew and bought a bunch of X-NUCLEO-IDB05A1 and NUCLEO-L152RE 2018-06-07T19:15:29 < nn777> zyp, ok, thank you very much. 2018-06-07T19:16:07 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.200.223] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T19:17:44 < Hamilton2> Here's a story: I created an account in Discord, joined some channels, all good. 1 day later it is asking for my phone number and doesn't let me login 2018-06-07T19:18:17 < nn777> ok, so that NVIC is being set in the MX_USART2_UART_Init routine, but it's not obvious why 2018-06-07T19:18:31 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@167.99.34.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-07T19:18:39 < nn777> but I can live with that 2018-06-07T19:18:43 < jadew> https://imgur.com/gallery/uMhK9bW 2018-06-07T19:18:52 < zyp> nn777, is that generated code? if so, you probably checked some box in cubemx 2018-06-07T19:18:57 < nn777> zyp, thank you very much. want to keep an open tab? 2018-06-07T19:19:20 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-07T19:19:39 < zyp> I'm usually around here when I'm at a computer 2018-06-07T19:19:55 < nn777> I meant an open tab for me to pay you for consulting help 2018-06-07T19:21:30 < zyp> if you feel whatever advice I can give is worth paying for 2018-06-07T19:22:14 < nn777> certainly 2018-06-07T19:22:22 < englishman> Thorn: STM32L011F4U6 2018-06-07T19:22:34 < englishman> 3x3 qfn20 2018-06-07T19:22:40 < englishman> stm8 replacement! 2018-06-07T19:23:40 < Thorn> this is the only one that lcsc has https://lcsc.com/product-detail/ST-Microelectronics_STMicroelectronics_STM32L011F4P6_STM32L011F4P6_C87903.html 2018-06-07T19:23:52 < Thorn> >$1.37 qty 10 2018-06-07T19:24:12 < englishman> .9 at digijew in 1k 2018-06-07T19:24:21 < nn777> interesting, the Reference Manual doesn't even mention ISER 2018-06-07T19:24:23 < Thorn> this is the replacement that I found https://lcsc.com/product-detail/NXP-MCU_NXP_LPC824M201JHI33E_LPC824M201JHI33E_C80379.html 2018-06-07T19:24:42 < Thorn> (someone suddenly bought everything after I ordered my 2nd 30 pcs) 2018-06-07T19:24:42 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T19:24:43 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-07T19:24:43 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T19:25:22 < zyp> nn777, NVIC is part of the arm core, none of the core peripherals are documented in the stm32 family specific reference manuals 2018-06-07T19:25:36 < nn777> !! 2018-06-07T19:25:44 < zyp> they are after all generic 2018-06-07T19:25:48 < Thorn> I'm writing firmware for my 1st sensor board using lpc824 and designing the 2nd board (discrete io) 2018-06-07T19:26:02 < nn777> zyp, these are some important puzzle pieces that I didn't know 2018-06-07T19:26:04 < englishman> can you dev for lpc in keil/ozone 2018-06-07T19:26:17 < Thorn> of course, keil, gcc, whatever 2018-06-07T19:26:19 < zyp> stm got a PM something documenting the core peripherals, but it's largely copypasted arm documentation, so you might as well just look it up at the arm site 2018-06-07T19:26:33 < Thorn> (and segger tools) 2018-06-07T19:26:51 < Thorn> I haven't tried st-link with openocd but it may well work too 2018-06-07T19:27:49 < zyp> nn777, PM0214 2018-06-07T19:27:50 < zyp> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/programming_manual/6c/3a/cb/e7/e4/ea/44/9b/DM00046982.pdf/files/DM00046982.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.DM00046982.pdf 2018-06-07T19:28:19 -!- Hamilton3 [~Hamilton@151.244.192.237] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T19:29:37 < karlp> englishman: yes, both bluetooth 2018-06-07T19:29:54 < englishman> nrf52832 is the thread one 2018-06-07T19:30:42 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T19:31:05 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@151.244.200.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-07T19:31:53 < englishman> hmm not much price difference with L1 vs L0 2018-06-07T19:36:03 < nn777> zyp, thank you again 2018-06-07T19:36:04 < karlp> not according to nordic, but ok :) 2018-06-07T19:36:14 < karlp> nrf52840 is 802.15.4/thread 2018-06-07T19:36:21 -!- Hamilton3 [~Hamilton@151.244.192.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-07T19:36:27 < karlp> as long as you're happy 2018-06-07T19:45:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-07T19:59:46 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-07T20:01:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-07T20:01:38 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@85-23-116-85.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:11:10 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:11:10 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-07T20:11:10 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:14:20 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@is.aww.moe] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2018-06-07T20:16:40 < nn777> zyp, still there? 2018-06-07T20:18:14 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8007d4c00ac821d2fbc3deaae.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:18:27 < zyp> nn777, sure 2018-06-07T20:18:58 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@mugi.iscute.moe] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:19:08 < nn777> I have crashed the program on the stm32. I'm pretty sure I know where the problem is and how I could bypass it, but I'd like to know more about how to debug this thing 2018-06-07T20:19:23 < nn777> willing to help? 2018-06-07T20:19:48 < zyp> sure, but I don't know truestudio, I mostly debug using plain gdb 2018-06-07T20:20:44 < nn777> "Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap." 2018-06-07T20:20:55 < zyp> that sounds like a hardfault 2018-06-07T20:21:26 < nn777> It says HardFault_Handler 2018-06-07T20:21:31 < nn777> what does that mean? 2018-06-07T20:21:35 < zyp> if you want to confirm, read out ipsr (lower part of cpsr or xpsr or whatever it's called) 2018-06-07T20:21:46 < zyp> ipsr shows active handler, hardfault is 3 2018-06-07T20:22:13 < zyp> since you're in the hardfault handler now, it's fairly safe to assume it'll be, but it doesn't hurt to make sure 2018-06-07T20:22:32 < upgrdman> if you want to use a full-duplex rs485 dongle as half-duplex, you just short the two + lines, and short the two - lines, right? 2018-06-07T20:22:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:23:09 < zyp> hardfault basically means «something bad happened and caused a fault that got trapped» 2018-06-07T20:23:54 < nn777> *searching* 2018-06-07T20:23:56 < karlp> upgrdman: depends what they wired really. 2018-06-07T20:24:01 < zyp> to figure out exactly what sort of fault you have, the next thing you want to do is read out the SCB_CFSR register 2018-06-07T20:24:10 < karlp> as half duplex you would normally just ignore one pair, 2018-06-07T20:24:18 < upgrdman> karlp, the "slaves" are wire for full-duplex, and so is my dongle 2018-06-07T20:24:19 < upgrdman> but 2018-06-07T20:24:20 < karlp> so just use the "primary" +/- 2018-06-07T20:24:37 < upgrdman> i need to test in half-duplex, trying to duplicate an error report 2018-06-07T20:24:51 < karlp> well, what does your equipment think that half duplex means then? 2018-06-07T20:25:11 < karlp> and what does the customer think half duplex means, and how did they wire it? 2018-06-07T20:25:26 < karlp> and how do you tell your device it can't reply at the same time? 2018-06-07T20:25:30 < upgrdman> im guessing the customer is connecting their + to my tx+ and rx+, and connecting their - to my tx- and rx- 2018-06-07T20:25:34 < nn777> zyp, nothing *psr 2018-06-07T20:25:35 < upgrdman> but i dunno yet 2018-06-07T20:25:46 < karlp> well, how the fuck would we know what you should do? 2018-06-07T20:25:51 < zyp> *psr is a core register 2018-06-07T20:25:51 < upgrdman> lol 2018-06-07T20:25:51 < karlp> and what does your manual say to do? 2018-06-07T20:26:03 < upgrdman> we say to use full duplex of course 2018-06-07T20:26:03 < upgrdman> but 2018-06-07T20:26:14 < karlp> it seems fucked to try and support both 2018-06-07T20:26:18 < upgrdman> this is a valuable customer and they have a hard-on for half duplex for some reason 2018-06-07T20:26:25 < karlp> do you have a jumper to select? 2018-06-07T20:26:32 < upgrdman> guessing their existing shit is wired for half 2018-06-07T20:26:35 < upgrdman> no 2018-06-07T20:26:35 < nn777> zyp, I found scb_cfsr, it's 0x8200 2018-06-07T20:26:45 < karlp> or do you _actually_ use half duplex, and just roll out a pile of duplicate wiring? 2018-06-07T20:27:07 < nn777> zyp, I found it in the arm document, reading... 2018-06-07T20:27:09 < upgrdman> no we legit use full-duplex 2018-06-07T20:27:18 < upgrdman> but 2018-06-07T20:27:24 < karlp> so you reallllly speak at the same time as you listen? 2018-06-07T20:27:25 < upgrdman> at the moment we never tx when rx'ing 2018-06-07T20:27:31 < upgrdman> but we may in the future 2018-06-07T20:27:33 < karlp> ok, so you legit DON'T use full duplex 2018-06-07T20:27:40 < karlp> you just waste wire 2018-06-07T20:27:40 < upgrdman> we legit support it :) 2018-06-07T20:27:48 < karlp> and you think you jmight one day do it. 2018-06-07T20:27:56 < nn777> zyp, so busfault, preciserr and bfarvalid 2018-06-07T20:28:14 < upgrdman> anyway, fuck it, time to short things out and see what burns 2018-06-07T20:28:15 < karlp> so, depending on how you wired your pairs, and how they wired their pairs, then yes, half duplex should work now, 2018-06-07T20:28:36 < zyp> nn777, good 2018-06-07T20:28:40 < karlp> depends what your dongle thinks it should do too. 2018-06-07T20:29:07 < zyp> in other words, you attempted an illegal memory access, it got trapped precisely and SCB_BFAR contains the address you tried accessing 2018-06-07T20:29:09 < karlp> do you have like a rs422 / 485 switch or something? 2018-06-07T20:29:38 < zyp> nn777, the backtrace should point to the instruction that performed the memory access 2018-06-07T20:30:06 < zyp> and from there it's just a matter of figuring out where the invalid memory address came from, probably some sort of corrupt pointer 2018-06-07T20:30:09 < nn777> zyp, bfar gives a value of 0x20010000. backtrace looks like it blames UART_Transmit_IT 2018-06-07T20:30:19 < karlp> nn777: atollic regualrly publishes docs on how they can automatically decode hardfaults, 2018-06-07T20:30:26 < karlp> and it' 2018-06-07T20:30:33 < karlp> s kinda graphical iirc from the screenshots, 2018-06-07T20:30:44 < karlp> they're obviously not doing a very good job of presenting it well if you didn't see it. 2018-06-07T20:31:06 < zyp> karlp, learning SCB_CFSR doesn't hurt either way :) 2018-06-07T20:31:07 < nn777> karlp, It's probably geared toward someone with a little more debugger experience than myself 2018-06-07T20:31:31 < karlp> zyp: I mean, the window that it shows to decode it, actually uses the words "SCB_CFSR" and shows bits, with meanings beside them 2018-06-07T20:31:38 < zyp> having tools to decode stuff automatically is helpful, but it also helps to understand where the tools get the information from 2018-06-07T20:31:43 < zyp> ah 2018-06-07T20:31:44 < zyp> fair 2018-06-07T20:32:07 < Laurenceb> hmm how can I debug segfault? 2018-06-07T20:32:20 < nn777> so the backtrace blames uart_transmit_it but it doesn't tell me which line in main() caused the fault 2018-06-07T20:32:22 < Cracki> gdb? 2018-06-07T20:32:31 < Laurenceb> Cracki: Qt GUI thingy 2018-06-07T20:32:37 < Cracki> qt creator debugger 2018-06-07T20:32:49 < karlp> ah, not as good as I thought I remembered: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52v1p6CN5A 2018-06-07T20:32:52 < Cracki> I would hope that thing can catch a segfault 2018-06-07T20:33:01 < karlp> their ITM config window is pretty good at showing the bits and what they are. 2018-06-07T20:33:12 < Laurenceb> Cracki: I'm just getting "not accessable" 2018-06-07T20:33:16 < Cracki> hm 2018-06-07T20:33:17 < Laurenceb> no clue where the error is 2018-06-07T20:33:26 < nn777> oh, there's a fault analyzer! 2018-06-07T20:33:32 < karlp> though that video is old now, I can't find a better link to their newer stuff, because they busted all their URLs when ST bought them. surprise surprise 2018-06-07T20:34:03 < Laurenceb> maybe I could single step 2018-06-07T20:34:08 < Laurenceb> but that would take all day 2018-06-07T20:34:25 < karlp> wat? 2018-06-07T20:34:36 < Cracki> set one breakpoint on something, see if you can catch it, set it on some other event handler, ... 2018-06-07T20:34:59 < Laurenceb> ok thats one way to do it... 2018-06-07T20:35:08 < Laurenceb> this may still take ages 2018-06-07T20:35:16 < Cracki> qt creator prolly uses gdb. that thing *must* have a way to see the stack trace at segfault 2018-06-07T20:35:25 < Cracki> and inspect local vars and whatnot 2018-06-07T20:35:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-51ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:35:46 < zyp> nn777, if a third party function that you can expect to be good is causing a busfault, it's likely because you called it with bad arguments 2018-06-07T20:35:51 < karlp> loclrence: just run it in debug mode and make it crash 2018-06-07T20:35:53 < Cracki> I think there are even debug symbols for qt, if you haven't just built it yourself 2018-06-07T20:35:55 < zyp> e.g. an invalid pointer, or a too large size or something 2018-06-07T20:39:54 < nn777> looks like my buffer is being corrupted somehow. 2018-06-07T20:40:59 < nn777> buflen=snprintf(buffer, 100, "P"); HAL_UART_TRANSMIT_IT($huart2, (uint8_t*) buffer, buflen); 2018-06-07T20:41:02 < Laurenceb> karlp: yeah but debugger then just says this: not accessable 2018-06-07T20:41:11 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:f900:c301:b63c:5b10] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T20:41:27 < zyp> Laurenceb, build with better debug symbols or something 2018-06-07T20:41:33 < nn777> that works fine as long as the part in quotes remains small. if I make it larger, I may get 1 or 2 lines out before the program barfs 2018-06-07T20:41:48 < Laurenceb> hmm 2018-06-07T20:41:54 < nn777> when I step through it, "buflen" jumps in size 2018-06-07T20:41:58 < Laurenceb> yeah maybe I need to fiddle with the build menu 2018-06-07T20:42:16 < Laurenceb> anyway I made some progress with usb analyser 2018-06-07T20:42:28 < Laurenceb> found some bugs in usb handling codez, time to fix 2018-06-07T20:42:53 < nn777> it's quite possible I'm just sending data too fast for the UART routines. 2018-06-07T20:43:26 < zyp> ah, aren't you making sure one line finish before you start the next? 2018-06-07T20:43:31 < nn777> nope 2018-06-07T20:43:51 < nn777> haven't figured out that much yet 2018-06-07T20:43:56 < zyp> then you're probably overwriting stuff the first transfer uses when starting the next 2018-06-07T20:44:02 < zyp> corrupting state 2018-06-07T20:54:18 < Drzacek> Hi 2018-06-07T20:55:00 < Drzacek> If I'm trying to write my own Delay function using timer interrupt, does the counter variable needs to be set "volatile"? So the mr compiler wont optimize it out when I wait? 2018-06-07T20:55:22 < Cracki> not optimize out, but might cache it in a register 2018-06-07T20:55:32 < Cracki> so yes, make it volatile 2018-06-07T20:55:56 < Drzacek> ok 2018-06-07T20:57:39 < Cracki> lots of things you share between threads/tasks/processes/interrupt routines should be volatile 2018-06-07T20:58:05 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-07T21:04:06 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T21:04:06 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-07T21:04:06 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T21:06:04 < nn777> ok, so buflen = snprintf(buffer, 100, "asfjlksjlfsdjlkfas"); sets buflen=238 at the second iteration 2018-06-07T21:06:54 < nn777> ahh, I see that buflen isn't limited to 100 2018-06-07T21:12:15 < nn777> uh, do I need to do something special for snprintf to handle floats? 2018-06-07T21:13:08 < kakimir> on what platform? 2018-06-07T21:13:20 < kakimir> what libc you use? 2018-06-07T21:13:31 < nn777> uhhhh 2018-06-07T21:13:34 < kakimir> what tools, IDE possibly? 2018-06-07T21:13:39 < nn777> truestudio 2018-06-07T21:13:53 < kakimir> go to your project properties 2018-06-07T21:15:03 < kakimir> build settings I assume 2018-06-07T21:15:15 < nn777> yeah, looking... 2018-06-07T21:15:32 < kakimir> somewhere in linker settings you may switch implementation of libc you are using to have float support for printf 2018-06-07T21:18:14 < kakimir> also google 2018-06-07T21:18:15 < nn777> no settings, but I found a document that tells me what command to add 2018-06-07T21:18:29 < kakimir> "truestudio printf float" 2018-06-07T21:18:39 < nn777> yeah 2018-06-07T21:19:21 < nn777> well... that's weird 2018-06-07T21:20:12 < Thorn> gruestudio 2018-06-07T21:20:37 < nn777> Disassembling Me 2018-06-07T21:22:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-07T21:25:22 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T21:28:01 < Drzacek> Is there some online documentation to HAL functions 2018-06-07T21:28:02 < Drzacek> ?? 2018-06-07T21:28:14 < nn777> sorta 2018-06-07T21:28:32 < nn777> Drzacek, I'm using STM32F3 HAL and LL drivers 2018-06-07T21:29:10 < Drzacek> http://www.disca.upv.es/aperles/arm_cortex_m3/llibre/st/STM32F439xx_User_Manual/group__tim__exported__functions__group1.html 2018-06-07T21:29:17 < Drzacek> what is the base and why does it need to be generated? 2018-06-07T21:30:23 < Thorn> 7-seg porn http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27598174 2018-06-07T21:30:28 < nn777> well, all the examples say -u __printf_float but it doesn't seem to work for me 2018-06-07T21:31:31 < Thorn> Drzacek: it's the timer itself, to put it very simply 2018-06-07T21:36:08 < Drzacek> Thorn, sooo I need to call it 2018-06-07T21:37:25 < Drzacek> but when I call the HAL_TIM_Base_Start_IT, it dies 2018-06-07T21:48:47 -!- nn777 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-07T21:49:13 -!- nn777 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T21:49:44 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-54.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T21:50:11 -!- branjb [~pseudosin@c-73-24-157-174.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-07T21:50:32 -!- branjb [~pseudosin@c-73-24-157-174.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T21:53:16 < Drzacek> I think I managed to get my timer delay working. Any way to be sure it actually does 1us wait? Cause I read on some forums it is actually bad idea to do microsecondinterrupts 2018-06-07T21:56:15 < nn777> I tried a number of us delay routines for stm32 and none of them worked 2018-06-07T21:59:24 < Rickta59> you might use the DWT stuff to count cycles 2018-06-07T21:59:41 < Rickta59> * assuming m3 or m4 2018-06-07T22:00:13 < Drzacek> I think stm32f103 is m0? 2018-06-07T22:00:20 < Rickta59> m3 2018-06-07T22:00:29 < Steffanx> its m3 2018-06-07T22:00:30 < Drzacek> damn, I can use dht22 on arduino, why does it have to be so complicated on stm32 2018-06-07T22:00:46 < Rickta59> because on arduino someone else did the hard work 2018-06-07T22:01:17 < Steffanx> Just copy pasta the tarduino lib to your stm32 :P 2018-06-07T22:01:40 < Steffanx> just do busy loops like tarduino. 2018-06-07T22:02:17 < Drzacek> busy loops 2018-06-07T22:02:24 < Drzacek> it looks dirty 2018-06-07T22:02:42 < Steffanx> That's what arduino does for sure 2018-06-07T22:04:29 < Drzacek> yeah 2018-06-07T22:04:36 < Drzacek> I even saw such example for f1 2018-06-07T22:04:46 < Drzacek> but I think "naah, there surely is a way to do it nicely" 2018-06-07T22:04:57 < Steffanx> I would just do that, just to make my code work. And then perhaps care about doing it with some timer or something. 2018-06-07T22:05:02 < Drzacek> oh well, at least I have some minimal idea how Timers work 2018-06-07T22:05:06 < nn777> I researched it for a bit yesterday and finally just did asm("nop") 2018-06-07T22:05:35 < nn777> stm32 doesn't have anything like _delay_us() on the AVR 2018-06-07T22:05:39 < Drzacek> nn777, yeah, thats what I saw, but guys in comments said "compiler just gonna optimize those out and it will take 0 time" 2018-06-07T22:05:40 < Rickta59> nop on a pipelined mcu are just an exercise in frustration 2018-06-07T22:05:52 < Rickta59> assuming you are using to dealy 2018-06-07T22:06:09 < nn777> Drzacek, volatile void delay_us(void) { asm("NOP"); .... } 2018-06-07T22:06:16 < nn777> works just fine 2018-06-07T22:06:23 < Drzacek> how many nops / us? 2018-06-07T22:06:43 < nn777> 47 on mine 2018-06-07T22:06:47 < Drzacek> 72mhz? 2018-06-07T22:06:55 < nn777> yeah I think so 2018-06-07T22:07:11 < nn777> I tried a for loop but the delay changed significantly 2018-06-07T22:07:25 < Rickta59> if you use the DWT stuff it will tell you the actual cycles used 2018-06-07T22:07:43 < nn777> none of the DWT examples I found worked 2018-06-07T22:07:59 < Rickta59> what didn't they do? 2018-06-07T22:08:08 < nn777> delay 2018-06-07T22:08:16 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month 2018-06-07T22:08:22 < kakimir> thanks for recommending 2018-06-07T22:08:27 < zyp> haha 2018-06-07T22:08:50 < kakimir> I just read the stuff it says in wikipedia and start referring to it 2018-06-07T22:09:08 < kakimir> nn777, do you have floats in your printf now? 2018-06-07T22:09:25 < Drzacek> ah fsck it, I'm just gonna try with random number of calls and gonna change them until the values I get back from sensor start looking good 2018-06-07T22:09:29 < Drzacek> but tomorrow 2018-06-07T22:09:32 < Drzacek> thanks and bye 2018-06-07T22:09:34 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8007d4c00ac821d2fbc3deaae.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-07T22:10:16 < nn777> kakimir, I do! It seems there a nano-lib thing that I needed to change 2018-06-07T22:10:27 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-07T22:10:35 < kakimir> that is libc implementation that your project uses 2018-06-07T22:15:07 < nn777> I'm the man now, dog. 2018-06-07T22:15:26 < kakimir> indeed 2018-06-07T22:16:02 < nn777> I changed the paper towel roll in the bathroom so I can feel like I was competent at something today 2018-06-07T22:16:28 < Steffanx> Just because your mom told you to. 2018-06-07T22:17:34 < nn777> no 2018-06-07T22:17:38 < nn777> I did it without being told! 2018-06-07T22:19:12 < kakimir> I washed my dirty pant and dishes 2018-06-07T22:22:29 < Laurenceb> hmm making some gui progress 2018-06-07T22:22:41 < Laurenceb> muh usb system is slowww 2018-06-07T22:22:53 < Laurenceb> takes up to 4 ms to connect all the devices 2018-06-07T22:23:56 < Steffanx> https://ciastkolog.pl/elektronika/stm32truestudio-funkcje-printf-sprintf-a-zmienne-float-i-double/ that is all you need to do nn777 2018-06-07T22:23:59 < Steffanx> google fu. pro. 2018-06-07T22:24:32 < Steffanx> 4ms is damn slow indeed Laurenceb. You post crap much faster than that. 2018-06-07T22:25:05 < nn777> Steffanx, I saw that, but that wasn't all I needed to do. 2018-06-07T22:25:24 < nn777> Steffanx, but thanks for your help! 2018-06-07T22:25:26 < Laurenceb> I think its because each device gets its own thread 2018-06-07T22:26:15 < Steffanx> its not nn777? Did you select newlib-nano? 2018-06-07T22:26:26 < nn777> that was the other thing I needed to do 2018-06-07T22:26:36 < Laurenceb> yay no more segfault 2018-06-07T22:26:37 < nn777> and it seems that the location of that setting changes from version to version 2018-06-07T22:29:17 < Steffanx> lies :P 2018-06-07T22:40:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T22:40:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-07T22:40:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T22:48:28 < englishman> Steffanx: currently eating final waffel 2018-06-07T22:50:11 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-07T22:53:59 < BrainDamage> the poisoned one? 2018-06-07T22:54:54 < kakimir> it's 23PM and sun is shining directly from my window into my appartment 2018-06-07T22:55:18 < Steffanx> hah, took you a while englishman 2018-06-07T22:55:21 < zyp> common problem 2018-06-07T22:55:29 < Steffanx> kakimir would have eaten that amount in 2 days, englishman :P 2018-06-07T22:55:49 < englishman> well the first half of this shipment went down a lot faster than the second half 2018-06-07T22:56:24 < BrainDamage> I wonder if Steffanx has stock options in insuline producing companies 2018-06-07T22:56:36 < Steffanx> lol no 2018-06-07T22:57:03 < englishman> i just need to get in touch with her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Wettlaufer 2018-06-07T22:57:06 < Steffanx> not a bad idea though 2018-06-07T22:58:06 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lx2keUvcDnkJAbwx5nZPurfo_0RzRa3M/view?usp=sharing 23PM 2018-06-07T22:58:23 < Steffanx> but it's not 23PM. 2018-06-07T22:58:32 < kakimir> shadow in there is my balcony rail shadow 2018-06-07T22:59:06 < Steffanx> its 23something or 11something pm :P 2018-06-07T22:59:07 < kakimir> Steffanx, just a minute 2018-06-07T22:59:22 < Steffanx> and then its not even true, because it's 22.00, soon 2018-06-07T23:00:29 < invzim> more HAL stuffs, any tricks to getting HAL_FLASHEx_Erase to work, apart from of course unlocking the flash? 2018-06-07T23:00:42 < kakimir> 23.00 2018-06-07T23:00:46 < kakimir> there 2018-06-07T23:05:08 < kakimir> I just tried to talk american 2018-06-07T23:06:16 < Steffanx> Did you say "ooooh mmmmmmyyyy gaaaawddd"? 2018-06-07T23:06:22 < englishman> haluaisin hampurilaisen, y'all 2018-06-07T23:06:55 < kakimir> haluaisin hampurilaisen aurajuustolla ja täyslihapihvillä 2018-06-07T23:07:10 < kakimir> laita paljon majoneesia 2018-06-07T23:07:12 < Steffanx> huvipuisto grilli? 2018-06-07T23:07:27 < Steffanx> or Ja vanha grilli? 2018-06-07T23:07:28 < Steffanx> or whatever 2018-06-07T23:07:48 < kakimir> en ymmärrä 2018-06-07T23:08:22 < Steffanx> Fresh from the barbecue? Google translate is not doing well with finnishlanders 2018-06-07T23:08:49 < kakimir> huvipuisto grilli = amusement park grill 2018-06-07T23:09:14 < kakimir> Ja vanha grilli = And old grill 2018-06-07T23:09:33 < Steffanx> hah lol google translate 2018-06-07T23:09:47 < kakimir> troll translator 2018-06-07T23:11:28 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOrzgQ9Wb8s musics again 2018-06-07T23:11:40 < vampi-the-frog> that language sounds like a muslim non-consensual mating call 2018-06-07T23:11:45 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jeqopqzpiptmawzt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-07T23:12:02 < kakimir> some say it sounds like japanise 2018-06-07T23:16:10 < Steffanx> Some say its just gibberish 2018-06-07T23:16:42 < kakimir> some say finland doesn't exist 2018-06-07T23:17:06 < Steffanx> Yeah finland is a myth 2018-06-07T23:18:12 < kakimir> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/finland-does-not-exist 2018-06-07T23:20:02 < zyp> I've been to finland, can confirm it doesn't exist 2018-06-07T23:20:20 < Steffanx> ive been to finladn too. It was pretty Russian. 2018-06-07T23:20:48 < kakimir> I was in netherlands once 2018-06-07T23:21:26 < Steffanx> All i remember from Lappeenranta was the brithish tank they had there. 2018-06-07T23:22:21 < kakimir> Lappeenranta is Finnish Russia 2018-06-07T23:22:39 < Steffanx> Yes, it was pretty russian indeed 2018-06-07T23:28:06 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-54.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-07T23:46:02 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-07T23:46:02 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T23:46:05 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-07T23:56:18 -!- inca [~inca@159.63.7.230] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 2018-06-07T23:57:37 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-07T23:58:48 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Fri Jun 08 2018 2018-06-08T00:02:41 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-08T00:07:43 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-08T00:09:34 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T00:15:14 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-08T00:22:49 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T00:37:36 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:f900:c301:b63c:5b10] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-08T00:48:15 < TheSeven> karlp: yes, that's the right one 2018-06-08T00:48:32 < TheSeven> forgot to update the version number ;) 2018-06-08T01:00:03 -!- branjb [~pseudosin@c-73-24-157-174.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-08T01:00:22 -!- branjb [~pseudosin@c-73-24-157-174.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T01:08:58 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-08T01:10:27 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T01:17:13 < karlp> ok, thank ohsix... 2018-06-08T01:20:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-51ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-08T01:24:28 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T01:24:30 < Laurenceb_> muh G.U.I., muh ip address in visual basic 2018-06-08T01:26:00 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-08T01:26:43 < stvn> https://youtu.be/hkDD03yeLnU 2018-06-08T01:28:14 < Laurenceb_> muh segfault 2018-06-08T01:28:16 < Laurenceb_> reeeeee 2018-06-08T01:28:33 < Laurenceb_> truly epic fail 2018-06-08T01:28:34 < stvn> What are you doing mate? 2018-06-08T01:28:40 < Laurenceb_> nobody knows 2018-06-08T01:28:46 < Laurenceb_> some sort of gui in Qt 2018-06-08T01:29:00 < Laurenceb_> atm it is a segfault generator and nobody can agree on requirements 2018-06-08T01:30:07 < Cracki> rip out code until it works? 2018-06-08T01:31:34 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T01:33:08 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T01:33:29 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-08T01:33:46 < Laurenceb_> I've given up for today, too annoying 2018-06-08T01:33:52 < Laurenceb_> moar fun tomorrow 2018-06-08T01:37:21 < Cracki> I can recommend watching an episode of Humans, fresh one just aired 2018-06-08T01:52:51 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-08T02:00:05 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T02:02:10 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T02:03:04 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T02:20:41 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T02:24:51 < dongs> sup serial innovators 2018-06-08T02:28:00 < Laurenceb_> >Gang members who rapped about stabbing rivals before going out armed with machetes could be banned from making “inflammatory” music under proposed new UK laws 2018-06-08T02:28:02 < Laurenceb_> my sides 2018-06-08T02:28:36 < Laurenceb_> OI M8 u got a rap license? 2018-06-08T02:33:17 < mawk> no 2018-06-08T02:33:48 < mawk> I want to measure the duration of a square wave period, from an ultrasonic telemeter 2018-06-08T02:33:54 < mawk> someone told me to use input capture with DMA 2018-06-08T02:34:01 < mawk> what are the general steps 2018-06-08T02:35:03 < dongs> donno if you really need DMA for that, is it a one off or continuous capture? 2018-06-08T02:35:14 < mawk> every 60 ms 2018-06-08T02:35:23 < mawk> one period every 60ms 2018-06-08T02:35:58 < dongs> thats an eternity, i wouldn't really bother with DMA. just input capture and copy the data out in the interrupt 2018-06-08T02:36:14 < mawk> I see 2018-06-08T02:36:15 < mawk> thank 2018-06-08T02:36:16 < mawk> s 2018-06-08T02:36:23 < Laurenceb_> today my license license arrived, I how have a license to possess licenses 2018-06-08T02:36:34 < mawk> what kind of licenses ? 2018-06-08T02:37:45 < mawk> somehere here is using cube MX with makefile + gcc ? 2018-06-08T02:38:20 < mawk> I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong such that I always get multiple definitions errors with the vanilla makefile generated by cube MX, I had to make some python script to patch it every time I generate the code using cube MX 2018-06-08T02:38:42 < mawk> or add -Wl,--allow-multiple-definitions to LDFLAGS once for all but that's dirty 2018-06-08T02:38:45 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-08T02:42:09 < aandrew> mawk: I use cube with makefile 2018-06-08T02:42:24 < aandrew> I don’t use their makefile though 2018-06-08T02:42:26 < mawk> ah 2018-06-08T02:42:28 < mawk> I see 2018-06-08T02:42:40 < aandrew> I use a modified makefile from ... (moment looking it up) 2018-06-08T02:47:04 < aandrew> I cannot find it now. Something like st0vre or someshit 2018-06-08T02:47:12 < mawk> alright 2018-06-08T02:47:25 < mawk> thanks 2018-06-08T02:48:20 < invzim> allreet, flash erasing working. Some flags the fantastic HAL didn't clear 2018-06-08T02:49:16 < invzim> HAL_FLASHEx_Erase_IT does the right thing, HAL_FLASHEx_Erase does not 2018-06-08T02:50:09 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T02:51:09 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T02:53:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-08T02:54:45 < mawk> how is it possible to have several falling edges in a row with a button 2018-06-08T02:55:08 < jadew> mawk, bouncing 2018-06-08T02:55:11 < nn777> need to debounce 2018-06-08T02:55:44 < Laurenceb_> the only thing thats bouncing is one of ur hands (the one thats not on the keyboard) 2018-06-08T02:56:06 < stvn> How did he know... 2018-06-08T02:56:17 < mawk> I'd expect to have at least a rising edge following a falling edge 2018-06-08T02:56:26 < mawk> not several falling edges in a row 2018-06-08T02:59:04 < Cracki> what did you do 2018-06-08T02:59:14 < Cracki> did you set interrupt for falling edge only? 2018-06-08T02:59:22 < mawk> for rising edge and falling edge 2018-06-08T02:59:27 < Cracki> what did you do 2018-06-08T03:00:36 < mawk> I set mode GPIO_MODE_IT_RISING_FALLING, then in the interrupt I notify a thread with the kind of interrupt (rising or falling) 2018-06-08T03:00:52 < mawk> the kind of interrupt is determined by reading from the pin 2018-06-08T03:00:55 < Cracki> how do you determine which edge direction caused the interrupt? 2018-06-08T03:00:58 < mawk> in the ISR 2018-06-08T03:01:07 < Cracki> so there's an event 2018-06-08T03:01:12 < Cracki> and several cycles later you test the pin 2018-06-08T03:01:23 < mawk> I see 2018-06-08T03:01:28 < Cracki> do you see how that could get you different answers? 2018-06-08T03:01:33 < mawk> I thought my finger wouldn't be fast enough to provoke that 2018-06-08T03:01:35 < dongs> < mawk> the kind of interrupt is determined by reading from the pin 2018-06-08T03:01:36 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-08T03:01:39 < dongs> thats your problem right there 2018-06-08T03:01:39 < Cracki> it's not your finger 2018-06-08T03:01:43 < Cracki> it's the mechanics of the button 2018-06-08T03:01:54 < Cracki> attach a scope or LA 2018-06-08T03:01:57 < Cracki> look at the signal 2018-06-08T03:02:03 < dongs> don't bother doing exti for buttons 2018-06-08T03:02:07 < dongs> scan them from systick 2018-06-08T03:02:15 < stvn> the way of dong 2018-06-08T03:02:18 < mawk> doesn't that eat power dongs ? 2018-06-08T03:02:24 < Cracki> even if you scan on a fixed schedule, you want to debounce 2018-06-08T03:02:26 < dongs> and increment a down/up counter and fire off keydown event when that counter is say > 10 or etc 2018-06-08T03:02:34 < Cracki> ^ that's debouncing 2018-06-08T03:02:43 < mawk> I see 2018-06-08T03:02:44 < Cracki> a digital lowpass (crude) 2018-06-08T03:02:50 < Cracki> there are tons of ways to debounce. 2018-06-08T03:02:57 < mawk> nice 2018-06-08T03:03:06 < Cracki> count consecutive same samples, or count up/down, ... 2018-06-08T03:03:07 < dongs> the best way is R+C at the button 2018-06-08T03:03:11 < dongs> so you dont have to do anything at all 2018-06-08T03:03:18 < mawk> can't I do a good digital lowpass filter ? 2018-06-08T03:03:20 < Cracki> count up/down is a kind of R+C 2018-06-08T03:03:25 < Cracki> "good"? 2018-06-08T03:03:27 < Cracki> good enough 2018-06-08T03:03:40 < mawk> draw some LRC schematic, find the differential equation, discretize it 2018-06-08T03:03:44 < mawk> and implement it 2018-06-08T03:03:46 < Cracki> overkill 2018-06-08T03:03:52 < Cracki> knock yourself out 2018-06-08T03:05:01 < Cracki> re:"can I..." https://twitter.com/stone_toss/status/1004058478225305600 2018-06-08T03:06:00 < mawk> and just a RC filter ? 2018-06-08T03:06:14 < mawk> the discretized DE is pretty simple 2018-06-08T03:06:57 < mawk> just a first order thing, akin to a counter 2018-06-08T03:07:04 < mawk> let me try 2018-06-08T03:07:23 < dongs> the fuck 2018-06-08T03:07:45 < dongs> maybe you should get kalman filter involved 2018-06-08T03:07:51 < dongs> advanced debouncing 2018-06-08T03:08:30 < mawk> the thing about reading the value on systick doesn't eat more power than the interrupt ? 2018-06-08T03:08:42 < dongs> is this a battery powered thing? 2018-06-08T03:08:48 < dongs> where this matters? 2018-06-08T03:08:49 < mawk> soon to be 2018-06-08T03:08:51 < mawk> yes 2018-06-08T03:08:55 < dongs> you probably have systick running already anyway 2018-06-08T03:09:14 < mawk> indeed 2018-06-08T03:09:35 < Cracki> assume 10 bounces per button press. is the expected button press frequency gonna be higher or lover than the systick freq? 2018-06-08T03:09:42 < Cracki> also that :> 2018-06-08T03:09:50 < Cracki> *lower 2018-06-08T03:11:42 < mawk> if I decide do use tickless idle, I guess I'll have to use a different method for debounce 2018-06-08T03:11:52 < mawk> maybe just look at the last actuation time ? 2018-06-08T03:13:47 < mawk> or start a tick for x periods starting on the first falling edge 2018-06-08T03:14:15 < dongs> https://static.wixstatic.com/media/b1db9b_fb0bdf7032264c4d81894d001c233658~mv2.png/v1/fill/w_1163,h_665,al_c,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/b1db9b_fb0bdf7032264c4d81894d001c233658~mv2.png is this eagle 2018-06-08T03:14:41 < dongs> nrm 2018-06-08T03:14:42 < dongs> I moved on to the schematic capture and I decided to design it with EAGLE. Since the project will be open source, I figure that it is the best way for people to have access to the design and board information. The problem is that I never used EAGLE before. 2018-06-08T03:14:46 < dongs> nvm rather 2018-06-08T03:15:32 < Cracki> dongs, can't be eagle. eagle only recently has gained busses 2018-06-08T03:15:41 < Cracki> also the IC symbols look odd 2018-06-08T03:16:21 < Cracki> also the font rendering doesn't look eagleish 2018-06-08T03:16:27 < dongs> maybe its the new monthly subscription eagle 2018-06-08T03:16:32 < dongs> the text says it s eagle tho 2018-06-08T03:16:44 < Cracki> odd 2018-06-08T03:16:48 < dongs> i do have to wonder what kidn of EE gives up whatever EDA tool t ehy actually kKNOW how to use and switch to eagle for open sores 2018-06-08T03:16:54 < Cracki> yes, must be. v9 is the all-autodesk release 2018-06-08T03:16:55 < dongs> https://www.c256foenix.com/single-post/2018/05/19/Schematic-Capture-as-commenced 2018-06-08T03:27:24 < Lux> fuck eagle, even kicad is better 2018-06-08T03:27:41 < stvn> correct 2018-06-08T03:28:07 < Lux> 8.x was a major pita to work with 2018-06-08T03:28:10 < stvn> kicad is definitely worht the money 2018-06-08T03:28:41 < stvn> but i can't use it anymore because i'm a 'professional' 2018-06-08T03:28:58 < Lux> altium all the way 2018-06-08T03:29:45 < dongs> < stvn> kicad is definitely worht the money 2018-06-08T03:29:46 < dongs> haha 2018-06-08T03:31:31 -!- nn777 is now known as nn7 2018-06-08T03:46:58 < PeterM> thats a 10/10 comment 2018-06-08T03:50:58 < Laurenceb_> I should try kike-cad some time 2018-06-08T03:51:06 < Laurenceb_> < eagle perman00b 2018-06-08T03:51:15 < Laurenceb_> I tried it in 2012 and it was utter cancer 2018-06-08T03:51:24 < Laurenceb_> how do I even click on the gui level cancer 2018-06-08T03:51:46 < Laurenceb_> >lets just redesign all interface standards since the 1980s 2018-06-08T03:56:50 < Thorn> how do you pronounce HASL 2018-06-08T03:57:05 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-08T04:00:07 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T04:04:27 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-08T04:17:46 < stvn> i only upgraded to altiuhm because my work paid for it 2018-06-08T04:22:06 < aandrew> < stvn> kicad is definitely worht the money 2018-06-08T04:22:07 < aandrew> lol 2018-06-08T04:24:54 < aandrew> mawk: https://github.com/stv0g/stm32cube-gcc 2018-06-08T04:24:59 < aandrew> stv0g is what I was trying to remember 2018-06-08T04:25:13 < aandrew> Thorn: "has-el" 2018-06-08T04:25:22 < aandrew> Thorn: how do I feel about it? "hassle" 2018-06-08T04:25:53 < Thorn> ok that's easy enough to remember lol 2018-06-08T04:33:34 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-08T04:37:50 < stvn> don't tell them i did it 2018-06-08T04:44:56 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T04:48:57 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B08150C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T04:53:21 < mawk> thanks aandrew 2018-06-08T05:04:49 -!- tct [~tct@adsl-130-227.dsl.init7.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-08T05:06:05 -!- tct [~tct@adsl-130-227.dsl.init7.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T05:18:37 < mawk> after some calculations if I'm not mistaken, if you take a characteristic time >> systick time, the counting method for debounce is not far at all from a real RC filter, it's a first order relative error 2018-06-08T05:19:06 < mawk> error in sampling time / characteristic time 2018-06-08T05:21:24 < mawk> ie 3/number of tick periods we want for a registered button press 2018-06-08T05:23:31 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-08T05:23:33 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T05:25:14 < Thorn> what's a normal reaction time of a PLC to a button press? assume the button is connected to a remote (rs-485) i/o module 2018-06-08T05:46:40 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-08T05:47:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T05:50:39 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T06:05:43 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T06:06:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-08T06:11:45 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2018-06-08T06:14:25 < dongs> nice 2018-06-08T06:14:36 < dongs> i got jewpad 10 panel to talk over displayport for a few seconds 2018-06-08T06:14:50 < dongs> 120Hz pr0n on the way 2018-06-08T06:31:53 < Ultrasauce> ...what happened after a few seconds? 2018-06-08T06:32:05 < dongs> nothign, im holding the wires together 2018-06-08T06:32:12 < dongs> testing it and getting them soldered up 2018-06-08T06:32:16 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-08T06:32:33 < dongs> i got the aux comms working, now need to wire up the highspeed lanes 2018-06-08T06:32:41 < dongs> its failing training or wahtever 2018-06-08T07:07:08 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-08T07:08:48 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T07:13:42 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has left ##stm32 ["Ex-Chat"] 2018-06-08T07:14:00 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T07:15:18 < stvn> I want 130hz dongtek board 2018-06-08T07:15:23 < stvn> 120 2018-06-08T07:29:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-08T07:38:17 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T07:40:16 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-08T07:41:20 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T07:42:04 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-08T07:42:04 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-08T07:47:38 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T07:52:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T08:12:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-98ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T08:16:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-08T08:17:35 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-08T08:56:58 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T09:03:31 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T09:09:11 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T09:20:09 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-98ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T09:22:26 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-08T09:22:34 < dongs> shit i cant tell if im trolling myself or nvidia is trolling me 2018-06-08T09:22:54 < dongs> panel is fucking vertical so its x2229 pixels high 2018-06-08T09:23:04 < dongs> but gayvidia spec says maybe 2160 max 2018-06-08T09:23:25 < dongs> buut that cant be a hard limit cuz it should be pixel clock dependent 2018-06-08T09:24:51 < dongs> 4K @ 60hz is 522mhz, this panel is 500mhz so it should be fine 2018-06-08T09:28:53 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-08T09:28:55 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T09:35:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T09:40:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T09:45:05 < stvn> what a sex pest 2018-06-08T09:56:13 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@85-23-116-85.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-08T10:00:01 < stvn> how many fucken dollars does the unit cost mate 2018-06-08T10:25:47 < zyp> all of them 2018-06-08T10:33:24 < stvn> perfect!! 2018-06-08T10:36:11 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T10:36:15 < kakimir> bumper humper 2018-06-08T10:36:42 < kakimir> what the hell are power profiles in LPC111x L and XL variants? 2018-06-08T10:39:02 < kakimir> basically rom based functions to control power switches and clocks and divs? 2018-06-08T10:40:44 < kakimir> okay basically it's like what suitable hall does when asked certain clock speeds or so 2018-06-08T10:41:07 < kakimir> I want clock 3000khz there and it does it's magic 2018-06-08T10:41:22 < dongs> ur clearly not a clock master 2018-06-08T10:41:56 < kakimir> I master lpc1111 clocks 2018-06-08T10:42:14 < dongs> cocks i can believe. clocks? not so much 2018-06-08T10:45:00 < kakimir> shiet boi 2018-06-08T10:45:17 < kakimir> I forgot lpc13xx is direct M3 update to lpc11xx 2018-06-08T10:58:59 -!- botnico [~sk@p57AF9ED7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T11:00:32 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-08T11:04:10 < kakimir> howe much usually change to M3 from M0 save program space? 2018-06-08T11:04:15 < kakimir> 15%? 2018-06-08T11:11:13 -!- botnico [~sk@p57AF9ED7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: botnico has no reason] 2018-06-08T11:12:47 -!- botnico [~sk@tsih.opaya.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T11:37:29 < c10ud> windows filesystem sucks so much I don't even.. 2018-06-08T11:38:20 < c10ud> a medium sized git repository makes disk I/O look like you're running on a 286 2018-06-08T11:42:22 < dongs> ????????????????????? 2018-06-08T11:42:39 < dongs> have you stopped for a second 2018-06-08T11:42:41 < dongs> and thought 2018-06-08T11:42:45 < dongs> why that is 2018-06-08T11:42:50 < dongs> git, shitty opensores shit written in python 2018-06-08T11:42:54 < dongs> python, shitty interpteted language 2018-06-08T11:43:05 < dongs> running on some bullshit opensores posix faggot emulator on top of windows 2018-06-08T11:43:09 < dongs> and you are susprised it sslow? 2018-06-08T11:46:15 < c10ud> git written in python? 2018-06-08T11:47:15 < c10ud> emulator we may agree, as this is msys2, but still, we'll see what microsoft will get to us now that they spent 7.5B$ for a website 2018-06-08T11:48:10 < c10ud> git was a 'real man' project written in c last time my buddy Linus wrote about it 2018-06-08T12:00:39 < BrainDamage> git is a patchwork of c, shell and perl 2018-06-08T12:05:37 < m4t> hahah 2018-06-08T12:06:00 < m4t> https://github.com/benhoyt/pygit 2018-06-08T12:06:36 < invzim> don't worry, I'm sure there will be a javascript implementation soon, if it doesn't exist already 2018-06-08T12:06:47 < m4t> ugh 2018-06-08T12:08:14 < invzim> here we go :) https://github.com/maryrosecook/gitlet 2018-06-08T12:08:51 < m4t> https://github.com/danlucraft/git.js 2018-06-08T12:12:57 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-08T12:13:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T12:16:40 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T12:57:26 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T12:59:59 < karlp> you know when you can do rm blah.{bin,elf,map} what is that form called? 2018-06-08T13:00:05 < karlp> trying to find it in the bash manual 2018-06-08T13:00:28 < karlp> nvm, found it here: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Brace-Expansion.html#Brace-Expansion 2018-06-08T13:03:00 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-08T13:07:38 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T13:09:44 < karlp> Thorn: your reaction time of a plc is a very fun question :) 2018-06-08T13:10:01 < karlp> some plcs will advertise rates and speeds and thigns, but it can depend a lot on how they're programmed. 2018-06-08T13:10:28 < karlp> lots of modern plcs are just running plc interpreter sw on embedded linux.... 2018-06-08T13:10:59 < karlp> you're much more concerned with how often the plc can query the remote module though! 2018-06-08T13:12:15 < karlp> Cracki: eagle has had busses for fucking _years_ just that almost no-one ever actualyl read the (good quality) manual it came with and just complained that it "didn't work and was missing all the important features" 2018-06-08T13:12:55 < zyp> always easier to complain it doesn't work than to actually learn how to use it 2018-06-08T13:15:17 < karlp> what eagle _didn't_ have until recently, was netnames on traces in pcb view, that was a huge gain. 2018-06-08T13:15:34 < karlp> that came in a 7.x dot release, along with the autodeesk branding 2018-06-08T13:25:20 < Thorn> so what would a 'normal' query interval be for a discrete i/o module? and how does the plc deal with button debouncing, short button presses etc. 2018-06-08T13:25:53 < Thorn> do i/o modules latch their input states until the next query for example? 2018-06-08T13:26:41 < karlp> you can get all the forms 2018-06-08T13:26:46 < karlp> the product lines are immense 2018-06-08T13:27:00 < karlp> you can can sometimes even choose the debounce intervals 2018-06-08T13:28:17 < karlp> poll time of their own DIs are quite different to polling a set of external modbus devices though. 2018-06-08T13:28:40 < karlp> just think about the bitrate for a small modbus request at 19200 say. 2018-06-08T13:42:29 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-08T13:42:45 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T13:49:19 < psprint> received in email: STM32 Nucleo with crypto, Intelligent power switch, lowest RDSon MOSFET, security-on-a-chip for IoT, and more 2018-06-08T13:49:42 < zyp> yeah, we all got that today 2018-06-08T13:49:55 < zyp> good luck buying that crypto nucleo 2018-06-08T13:50:28 < stvn> wtf 2018-06-08T13:51:17 < stvn> stiff wiener pete 2018-06-08T14:10:03 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T14:12:53 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-08T14:14:22 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-08T14:15:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T14:18:34 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T14:19:55 < PeterM> Thorn somewhere between 10us and 1m 2018-06-08T14:25:37 < karlp> for local ones, sure, but not for a remote rs485 one? 2018-06-08T14:29:10 < Laurenceb> hol up 2018-06-08T14:29:16 < Laurenceb> we wuz segfaults and shit 2018-06-08T14:35:06 < stvn> stroopwafel 2018-06-08T14:48:29 < Steffanx> yob emag odnetnin 2018-06-08T14:49:28 < karlp> !nam emag odnetnin 2018-06-08T14:54:14 < stvn> the twang 2018-06-08T15:06:09 < Laurenceb> >Qt autoupdater is running 2018-06-08T15:06:13 < Laurenceb> the fuck is this shit 2018-06-08T15:06:23 < stvn> linux gay 2018-06-08T15:06:51 < Laurenceb> 400meg of downloads 2018-06-08T15:06:52 < Laurenceb> whyyyy 2018-06-08T15:07:12 < Laurenceb> inb4 it breaks everything 2018-06-08T15:07:23 < stvn> for the linux way 2018-06-08T15:07:50 < botnico> does one know how to activate read protection level 1 on a F072? 2018-06-08T15:07:57 < botnico> with openocd 2018-06-08T15:16:07 < zyp> have you tried reading the reference manual? 2018-06-08T15:17:29 < botnico> yeah 2018-06-08T15:17:35 < zyp> try better 2018-06-08T15:17:41 < botnico> hehe 2018-06-08T15:17:53 < Laurenceb> we dont need no damn datasheet 2018-06-08T15:17:55 < Laurenceb> sheeeet 2018-06-08T15:18:10 < Laurenceb> aint nobody got tiem fo dat 2018-06-08T15:18:45 < zyp> I don't know openocd, but I know there's a control bit or something somewhere in the flash controller, just write that bit from openocd 2018-06-08T15:18:46 < Laurenceb> stroopwafel is now an ##stm32 memmie 2018-06-08T15:19:03 < botnico> openocd documentation says: Flash Driver: stm32f1x: stm32f1x lock num 2018-06-08T15:19:43 < botnico> but the stm32 documentation tells about read protection levels, 0, 1, 2 where 2 is irreversible 2018-06-08T15:20:04 < zyp> stm32f1 doesn't have level 2 2018-06-08T15:20:35 < zyp> so helper functions for f1 naturally won't have it either 2018-06-08T15:20:37 < botnico> and openocd seems to use stm32f1x for f072 2018-06-08T15:20:48 < zyp> well, the flash controller is mostly the same 2018-06-08T15:21:19 < zyp> I haven't checked in detail, but I guess the ROP level 2 is just added to bits that are reserved in f1 2018-06-08T15:21:21 < botnico> but appearingly not the read protection system 2018-06-08T15:21:57 < zyp> anyway, like I said, if openocd doesn't support what you want to do, just do it manually through direct register writes 2018-06-08T15:22:34 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T15:23:51 < botnico> hehe 2018-06-08T15:23:59 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T15:24:07 < botnico> you mean no risk no fun 2018-06-08T15:25:50 < zyp> ah, it's not a register, it's an option byte 2018-06-08T15:26:07 < dongs> uhh 2018-06-08T15:26:13 < zyp> ref. 4.1.1 in RM0091 2018-06-08T15:26:16 < dongs> 'irreversible' surely means "erase on jtag connection" 2018-06-08T15:26:25 < dongs> its not like it makes the chip bricked 2018-06-08T15:26:31 < zyp> no, level 2 disables jtag 2018-06-08T15:26:43 < dongs> not bootlaoder 2018-06-08T15:27:05 < dongs> you can still connect under reset to disabled jtag, no? 2018-06-08T15:27:10 < zyp> no 2018-06-08T15:27:11 < dongs> the connection itself will triggererase tho. 2018-06-08T15:27:17 < zyp> no 2018-06-08T15:27:21 < dongs> hokay. 2018-06-08T15:27:26 < dongs> i must be using level1 shit then 2018-06-08T15:27:46 < botnico> level 2 is really hard 2018-06-08T15:28:24 < zyp> in level 1, connecting jtag will kill the flash interface so nothing can be read out 2018-06-08T15:28:33 < zyp> in level 2, the whole debugger block is disabled 2018-06-08T15:32:01 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@adsl-99-222.netplaza.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-08T15:32:04 < dongs> so bootlaoder should still be on 2018-06-08T15:32:09 < zyp> seems like level 2 also disables the bootloader 2018-06-08T15:32:10 < dongs> asnd you can just short boot0 and erase 2018-06-08T15:32:12 < dongs> really? 2018-06-08T15:32:24 < zyp> "In this level, the protection level 1 is guaranteed. In addition, the CortexM0 debug capabilities are disabled. Consequently, the debug port (SWD), the boot from RAM (boot RAM mode) and the boot from System memory (boot loader mode) are no more available." 2018-06-08T15:32:47 < dongs> "are no more available" what the fuck is that actual datasheet english 2018-06-08T15:33:19 < zyp> "Moreover, the RDP byte cannot be programmed. Thus, the level 2 cannot be removed at all: it is an irreversible operation." 2018-06-08T15:33:26 < dongs> cool 2018-06-08T15:33:50 < dongs> STMicroelectronics is not able to perform analysis on defective parts on which the level 2 protection has been set. 2018-06-08T15:33:53 < dongs> cute 2018-06-08T15:33:56 < dongs> " you fucked it, bye " 2018-06-08T15:36:46 < stvn> llol 2018-06-08T15:39:46 < stvn> Anthony Bourdain: an hero 2018-06-08T15:40:20 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T15:40:31 < dongs> zyp, that must be new with F0 2018-06-08T15:40:41 < dongs> pretty sure F1 has no such mode 2018-06-08T15:42:29 < dongs> stvn: who? also, lol 2018-06-08T15:42:33 < dongs> US celebrity chef and television personality Anthony Bourdain has been found dead in his hotel room, aged 61, of a suspected suicide, CNN reports. 2018-06-08T15:42:39 < dongs> "celebrity chef" 2018-06-08T15:42:42 < dongs> the fuck is taht even 2018-06-08T15:42:56 < stvn> a true pumper idk 2018-06-08T15:43:01 < dongs> what does a 61 year old do in a hotel room 2018-06-08T15:43:05 < invzim> anyone here use level2? It's attractive, but support/debugging after-the-fact will be pretty much impossible 2018-06-08T15:43:08 < dongs> shouldnt he be found dead in his home 2018-06-08T15:43:12 < karlp> dongs: as already said, no, f1 doesn't have level 2 2018-06-08T15:43:19 < dongs> invzim: better hope your bootloader is good 2018-06-08T15:43:20 < karlp> invzim: so... why use l2 then? 2018-06-08T15:43:31 < dongs> you still have full flash access from userspace/bootloader 2018-06-08T15:43:36 < invzim> to make life harder for cloners 2018-06-08T15:45:09 < invzim> got a good tip from someone in the know - encrypt your decryption key with UUID in bootloader 2018-06-08T15:45:25 < zyp> dongs, well, duh 2018-06-08T15:45:27 < invzim> so even if they manage to get a readout through decapping, they won't get the aes key used for bootloader 2018-06-08T15:45:31 < zyp> 14:20:04 < zyp> stm32f1 doesn't have level 2 2018-06-08T15:45:42 < dongs> sorry im late to the party 2018-06-08T15:46:00 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/lushsux/status/1000372879467466752 2018-06-08T15:46:18 < dongs> invzim: uhh.. so how does that work 2018-06-08T15:46:24 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-08T15:46:24 < dongs> you cant gang-flash stuff? 2018-06-08T15:46:38 < zyp> invzim, one of the stm32-based devices I've bought uses L2 2018-06-08T15:46:39 < dongs> eahch device gets a customized bootlolder build>? 2018-06-08T15:48:03 < invzim> dongs: just patch the bootloader image before uploading 2018-06-08T15:48:26 < invzim> 'just' - you need to get the UUID somehow 2018-06-08T15:48:27 < karlp> zyp: how do you detect it? 2018-06-08T15:48:46 < dongs> i guess no bootloader? 2018-06-08T15:48:49 < zyp> karlp, states so in the documentation 2018-06-08T15:49:03 < dongs> what kinda pseudoopensores device isthat 2018-06-08T15:49:09 < dongs> is it some security key thing 2018-06-08T15:49:09 < zyp> trezor 2018-06-08T15:49:12 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-08T15:50:00 < karlp> so, only reason for level 2 must be, "there's bugs in level 1 that we're not really admitting to" surely? 2018-06-08T15:50:41 < zyp> level 1 protects flash but not ram content 2018-06-08T15:50:57 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-08T15:51:25 < dongs> did you already take it apart? 2018-06-08T15:51:29 < zyp> you could attach a debugger to a level 1 device, which would kill flash and probably make it hardfault, but everything stored in ram is there for you to read out 2018-06-08T15:52:04 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T15:52:05 < invzim> or replace the flash with something else 2018-06-08T15:52:12 < karlp> zyp: ok, fair enough. 2018-06-08T15:52:24 < karlp> invzim: ok, I guess I had overlooked that some people consider that a problem. 2018-06-08T15:53:02 < zyp> invzim, if all you want is to replace the firmware, just unsolder the chip and replace it with a fresh one 2018-06-08T15:53:34 < invzim> sure, but it may not be very practical and wold require more access/time to the device 2018-06-08T15:53:38 < invzim> would 2018-06-08T15:54:27 < invzim> personally, level 1 is plenty IF it actually does what it says 2018-06-08T15:54:42 < zyp> depends what you're trying to protect against 2018-06-08T15:54:56 < invzim> me, cloning 2018-06-08T15:54:58 < zyp> the trezor firmware is open source, nobody's worried about that being stolen 2018-06-08T15:55:07 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-08T15:55:08 < dongs> what is locked then? 2018-06-08T15:55:12 < dongs> does it have more than one stm32? 2018-06-08T15:55:18 < zyp> the crypto keys 2018-06-08T15:55:23 < dongs> or is it locked to prevent your warez from being stolen 2018-06-08T15:55:29 < dongs> ah i see. 2018-06-08T15:57:42 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T16:02:11 < invzim> allreet, f4 is supposedly not affected by leve1 readout weakness 2018-06-08T16:02:52 < invzim> https://community.st.com/thread/46432-hacking-readout-protection-on-stm32 - towards the end 2018-06-08T16:05:34 < Thorn> suddenly silkscreen quality is much better on my altium boards than on earlier dicktrace ones 2018-06-08T16:07:28 < dongs> X-CUBE-SBSFU 2018-06-08T16:08:52 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T16:12:39 < Thorn> I guess it's because line width is larger in altium (I set it to 0.2mm) 2018-06-08T16:16:54 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T16:24:16 < Cracki> karlp, wait eagle has had busses? whaaaaaat ok I gotta get into that 2018-06-08T16:26:38 < Steffanx> Lol how can you not know? 2018-06-08T16:26:41 < karlp> it even has icons for it on the toolbar 2018-06-08T16:26:44 < karlp> like, obvious ones. 2018-06-08T16:26:54 < Steffanx> Didnt you start with EAGLE CAD? 2018-06-08T16:28:01 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-08T16:28:01 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T16:28:03 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-08T16:28:30 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhceejitccdnxzwr] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T16:30:53 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-08T16:30:55 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T16:34:54 -!- ccole [~cole@cpe-174-104-217-206.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-08T17:00:03 < nn7> I've been able to get hal_uart_transmit_dma working, but I can't get any callbacks to let me know the transmission is done. 2018-06-08T17:02:48 < nn7> void HAL_UART_TXCpltCallback(UART_HandleTypeDef *huart) 2018-06-08T17:05:17 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T17:08:42 < nn7> do I need to do something special to activate that callback? 2018-06-08T17:09:00 < dongs> why dont you serarch the shitty cube sores and see what calls it? 2018-06-08T17:09:05 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/e4JTRep war on the evil axis of gamergate 2018-06-08T17:09:06 < dongs> and see what conditions it c hecks before calling it 2018-06-08T17:10:19 < nn7> hmm... alrighty 2018-06-08T17:13:49 < dongs> i mean thats what i would do if i was chceking unknown shit 2018-06-08T17:13:54 < dongs> and cubetrash is mostly unknown shit 2018-06-08T17:13:58 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-08T17:14:01 < dongs> did you bother looking at cube examples? 2018-06-08T17:14:09 < dongs> pretty sure interrupt-based uart is one of those.. 2018-06-08T17:14:15 < nn7> yes, and a number of google searches of various examples 2018-06-08T17:14:35 < dongs> did you actuallty assign relevant DMA channels and IRQs in the cube GUI? 2018-06-08T17:14:40 < dongs> you need dma completion IRQ and shit. 2018-06-08T17:15:38 < nn7> I think so 2018-06-08T17:16:05 < invzim> nn7: rs485? 2018-06-08T17:16:11 < stvn> Laurenceb: whats it like 2018-06-08T17:16:21 < Laurenceb> wut? 2018-06-08T17:16:26 < nn7> invzim, just a serial port spitting out status data 2018-06-08T17:17:30 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T17:17:46 < nn7> I do reach the breakpoint in UART_DMATransmitCplt, which steps to the line HAL_UART_TxCpltCallback(huart) but it doesn't execute the code in that function 2018-06-08T17:19:59 < invzim> I used in a previous prototype, can't find the source right now 2018-06-08T17:20:31 < invzim> the book "Mastering STM32" has some examples where it's used 2018-06-08T17:20:43 < dongs> theres books out covering HAL? 2018-06-08T17:20:59 < invzim> yeah, and it's pretty damn good - well worth the money 2018-06-08T17:21:22 < invzim> https://www.carminenoviello.com/mastering-stm32/ 2018-06-08T17:25:01 < Laurenceb> oh wow https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42978.3560 2018-06-08T17:25:12 < Laurenceb> pls be a troll 2018-06-08T17:27:03 < stvn> eh 2018-06-08T17:27:50 < stvn> the gook across the road must have a tiny fucking cock 2018-06-08T17:28:05 < stvn> the exhaust on his car is rattling the walls in this house 2018-06-08T17:29:43 < nn7> gook? 2018-06-08T17:29:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T17:38:24 < nn7> maybe the compiler is optimizing it out? 2018-06-08T17:41:40 < stvn> Laurenceb: what credibility does that cesspool have? 2018-06-08T17:42:04 < Laurenceb> z e r o 2018-06-08T17:42:11 < Laurenceb> its a good laugh though 2018-06-08T17:42:21 < Laurenceb> truly epic lulz 2018-06-08T17:42:44 < stvn> yeah i guess that overunity forum was a good point of amusement for me around 10 years ago 2018-06-08T17:42:57 < stvn> dumbest cunts in the ground 2018-06-08T17:43:46 < Laurenceb> stoern forumz were funny 2018-06-08T17:44:33 -!- Haohmaru [~wub@195.24.53.110] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-08T17:44:56 < Laurenceb> https://fora.ie/steorn-shaun-mccarthy-liquidated-3097083-Nov2016/ 2018-06-08T17:45:22 < Laurenceb> > fruit trading site 2018-06-08T17:45:58 < Laurenceb> >Steorn ‘discovered’ it could use magnets to basically create a perpetual motion machine 2018-06-08T17:47:00 < dongs> Posts: 3081 def trol 2018-06-08T17:47:20 < nn7> dma1 channels 6 and 7 global interrupts are enabled in cube 2018-06-08T17:47:27 < nn7> uart2 global interrupt is enabled in cube 2018-06-08T17:47:39 < Laurenceb> > pro poker player 2018-06-08T17:47:41 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-08T17:50:58 < englishman> dongs, is the panel with a notch in it 2018-06-08T17:54:44 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T18:00:00 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-08T18:05:34 -!- Kerr [~mobile@50.120.65.147] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T18:08:57 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@50.120.65.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-08T18:12:46 -!- kikkel [504b63de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.75.99.222] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T18:13:00 < kikkel> hello pumps 2018-06-08T18:13:20 < kikkel> I forgot my laptop psu so webchat it is 2018-06-08T18:13:57 < kikkel> tell me how can I place macro define to printf string - as string 2018-06-08T18:14:40 < kikkel> I have something like #define BLAHBLAH PIO0_1 2018-06-08T18:14:52 < kikkel> I want to print that PIO0_1 2018-06-08T18:18:32 -!- invzim [~perole@2a02:7b40:d418:6708::1] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-08T18:19:26 -!- invzim [~perole@2a02:7b40:d418:6708::1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T18:22:14 < botnico> oh no i have destroyed my turtelizer 2 2018-06-08T18:23:02 < botnico> and after opening it, i found out that it is difficult to repair. tiny smd levelshifters close to THT directly-soldered connectors 2018-06-08T18:23:09 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800586b00f16b9413a02e6a40.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T18:23:39 < Laurenceb> the absolute state of Qt 2018-06-08T18:23:44 < Laurenceb> it thinks its 1972 2018-06-08T18:23:56 < Laurenceb> obviously PC support isnt a high priority 2018-06-08T18:23:59 < kikkel> wait.. I don't even use printf 2018-06-08T18:28:30 < kikkel> ../src/hall_rele.c:2330:28: error: stray '#' in program uart_send_string_blocking(#UART_MODE_SELECT_PIN_LPC11xx_GPIO, 20); 2018-06-08T18:29:08 < kikkel> I give up 2018-06-08T18:29:17 < kikkel> I make another macro for the string 2018-06-08T18:32:06 < mawk> macros are sensitive 2018-06-08T18:32:22 < mawk> try one level deeper kikkel 2018-06-08T18:32:28 < mawk> to force the re-evaluation of arguments 2018-06-08T18:32:36 < dongs> englishman: no 2018-06-08T18:32:44 < kikkel> I made a pin 2018-06-08T18:32:54 < kikkel> that detects if I want uart output or not 2018-06-08T18:33:24 < karlp> heh. 2018-06-08T18:33:34 < karlp> overthinking much? 2018-06-08T18:33:51 < karlp> (you might want ## as well, and you need to wrap them both in macros if you want to really stringify things...) 2018-06-08T18:34:16 < dongs> attn jadew https://i.imgur.com/bJXWtQU.jpg 2018-06-08T18:35:35 < mawk> if I want to make a digital filter I take the differential equation of my filter, and discretize it 2018-06-08T18:35:47 < dongs> shit mang you're STILL going at this? 2018-06-08T18:35:50 < dongs> its been like 24 hours 2018-06-08T18:35:55 < dongs> did you debounce yet 2018-06-08T18:35:58 < mawk> yes 2018-06-08T18:36:04 < mawk> I'm just playing with filters now 2018-06-08T18:36:07 < mawk> because it looks interesting 2018-06-08T18:36:37 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/xmos-developer-for-custom-projects/ haha more xmos junk 2018-06-08T18:37:20 < kikkel> $1176 USD / hour 2018-06-08T18:37:30 < mawk> for instance s'(t) is replaced by (s(n) - s(n-1))/dt, with dt the discretization step period 2018-06-08T18:37:43 < kikkel> I think I have seen the same guy to bid for like 5usd / hour 2018-06-08T18:37:57 < mawk> but if s is smooth enough, there are better approximations of the derivate, like (3/2 s(n) - 2 s(n-1) + 1/2 s(n-2))/dt 2018-06-08T18:38:00 < mawk> why don't we use these ? 2018-06-08T18:38:06 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/Multiple-Oled-display-between/ ahahahah 2018-06-08T18:38:28 < dongs> fuckin jews 2018-06-08T18:38:56 < nn7> How do you know they're jewish? 2018-06-08T18:39:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T18:39:24 < kikkel> everybody is 2018-06-08T18:39:35 < dongs> nn7: israel flag in project creator?? 2018-06-08T18:39:49 < kikkel> okay me go thanks for help guise 2018-06-08T18:40:07 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/electrical-engineering/England-ONLY-Order-fulfilment-parting/ attn Laurenceb 2018-06-08T18:40:08 < kikkel> dongs: you have star of david in your accounts too 2018-06-08T18:40:08 < mawk> don't be so judeocentric dongs , it's a random flag that happen to be the israeli flag 2018-06-08T18:40:40 < Laurenceb> dongs: 2hrs/day, 10ukp/hour 2018-06-08T18:40:45 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Adde Parvum Parvo Magnus Acervus Erit] 2018-06-08T18:40:46 < Laurenceb> take a running jump 2018-06-08T18:40:46 < dongs> yeah so 2018-06-08T18:40:49 < dongs> thats like 2018-06-08T18:40:52 < dongs> more than youre making now 2018-06-08T18:40:53 < dongs> lol 2018-06-08T18:41:13 < dongs> lol all the bidders are pakis 2018-06-08T18:41:19 < dongs> 1st sentence says YOU MSUT BE IN UK 2018-06-08T18:41:22 < Laurenceb> rather rent out muh colon 2018-06-08T18:42:31 < Laurenceb> Iranian guy at wurk is on adultwork 2018-06-08T18:42:41 < Laurenceb> "Persian service for the older lady" 2018-06-08T18:43:00 < Laurenceb> ukp150/hour 2018-06-08T18:43:02 < karlp> you've told us before. 2018-06-08T18:43:16 < Laurenceb> just trying to get him some business 2018-06-08T18:45:46 < dongs> whats the I2C controller on L0 2018-06-08T18:45:53 < dongs> is that new "new" one thats less shit than on F1? 2018-06-08T18:46:32 < kikkel> can I replace #if UART_BULLSHIT_ENABLED 2018-06-08T18:46:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-08T18:46:40 < kikkel> print_bullshit(); 2018-06-08T18:46:43 < kikkel> #endif 2018-06-08T18:47:03 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T18:47:09 < mawk> #if defined(UART_BULLSHIT_ENABLED) && UART_BULLSHIT_ENABLED == 1 2018-06-08T18:47:10 < kikkel> with UART_BULLSHIT_ENABLED(bullshit();) 2018-06-08T18:47:21 < mawk> yes but ugly 2018-06-08T18:47:53 < mawk> #ifdef ENABLE_BULLSHIT #define UART_BULLSHIT_ENABLED(x) do { x } while(0) #else #define UART_BULLSHIT_ENABLED() #endif 2018-06-08T18:47:56 < mawk> don't do that 2018-06-08T18:48:01 < mawk> use the #if defined... 2018-06-08T18:48:40 < kikkel> don't tell me how to live my life 2018-06-08T18:49:00 < mawk> I've given you the code to not type 2018-06-08T18:49:08 < mawk> that's enough 2018-06-08T18:49:21 < mawk> use your freedom to type it anyway 2018-06-08T18:49:25 < mawk> and stop complaining 2018-06-08T18:50:16 < kikkel> okay 2018-06-08T18:50:35 < kikkel> why do {x} while(0) 2018-06-08T18:51:51 < kikkel> why not just x 2018-06-08T18:51:59 < Laurenceb> while(finns_exist()) kill_finns(); 2018-06-08T18:53:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-08T18:53:10 < Steffanx> Yesterday we concluded finns_exists() only returns false, Laurenceb 2018-06-08T18:57:44 < kikkel> while(laurence.mode==IRC){laurence.unfunny=True;laurence_make_a_joke();laurence_push_memes();} 2018-06-08T18:58:11 < kikkel> forgot shitpost 2018-06-08T18:58:50 < kikkel> I'm not even working... 2018-06-08T18:59:12 < kikkel> creating provocation in ircs takes now all my time 2018-06-08T18:59:20 < Steffanx> Why not kikkel? 2018-06-08T18:59:28 < Steffanx> Its weekend.. 2018-06-08T19:00:32 < kikkel> yeah I know.. it's friday 19.00 2018-06-08T19:00:36 < kikkel> I should be working 2018-06-08T19:00:44 < nn7> Marked down for $20.99 2018-06-08T19:10:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T19:26:09 -!- Kerr [~mobile@50.120.65.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-08T19:45:56 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T19:45:57 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-08T19:45:57 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T19:48:38 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@boston-packets.hackerspace.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-08T19:48:55 -!- emeryth [~emeryth@boston-packets.hackerspace.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T19:48:58 -!- kikkel [504b63de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.75.99.222] has quit [] 2018-06-08T20:08:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a00:801:250:cacf:c809:e055:9a35:1472] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T20:20:00 < nn7> I've found that if I put code in stem32f3xx_hal_uart.c right above the line to call HAL_UART_TXCpltCallback, the code works. If I put that code *in* HAL_UART_TXCpltCallback it never gets executed. 2018-06-08T20:20:20 < nn7> Is the compiler optimizing it out? Is there a way to tell it not to? 2018-06-08T20:30:03 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydzzlt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T20:31:32 < nn7> SDFGSDFGSRSERIHUSG45LIHULIBULSIB5YI5U5BN5IBUS5IBULS5;SI5UB;S5B;UB;S56B;OSEB5 2018-06-08T20:31:36 < nn7> Tx not TX 2018-06-08T20:31:41 < nn7> damnit 2018-06-08T20:37:43 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T20:44:56 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVj-fc1M_D0 music times again 2018-06-08T20:47:19 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/4T1GCVT 2018-06-08T21:20:32 < Laurenceb> we must defend our heritage against the libtards 2018-06-08T21:21:08 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-08T21:28:44 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-08T21:28:51 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T21:35:52 -!- brabo is now known as brabo\0 2018-06-08T21:36:37 -!- brabo\0 is now known as brabo 2018-06-08T21:45:52 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T21:46:03 < elektrinis> hi 2018-06-08T21:46:27 < elektrinis> playing with stm motor board... 2018-06-08T21:46:35 < elektrinis> downloaded truestudio 2018-06-08T21:46:42 < elektrinis> also stm motor studio 2018-06-08T21:46:53 < elektrinis> it generated some source code 2018-06-08T21:47:03 < elektrinis> opened up the project and tried to compile 2018-06-08T21:47:20 < elektrinis> however there are many "undefined reference" errors 2018-06-08T21:47:55 < elektrinis> I do see the functions in attached files under Includes 2018-06-08T21:48:09 < elektrinis> can't figure out what the problem is 2018-06-08T21:51:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-08T21:59:34 < Laurenceb> Do you belong to a group of people who denounce 'collectivism'? Then you're a collectivist 2018-06-08T22:01:26 < mawk> with a low-pass LRC filter at charging time the current is zero at t = 0 ? 2018-06-08T22:02:16 < mawk> fed with a square wave 2018-06-08T22:07:38 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T22:15:13 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-08T22:15:38 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T22:18:00 < upgrdman> Laurenceb, what is a "britbong" 2018-06-08T22:18:12 < Laurenceb> someone from uk 2018-06-08T22:18:53 < Laurenceb> https://www.google.com/search?q=britbong&source=lnms&tbm=isch 2018-06-08T22:18:55 < upgrdman> anyone or low class or what 2018-06-08T22:19:02 < Laurenceb> check the link 2018-06-08T22:19:26 < upgrdman> lol 2018-06-08T22:19:29 < Laurenceb> >the Rodge is a britbong 2018-06-08T22:20:18 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/gallery/cxRHNHb 2018-06-08T22:26:15 < elektrinis> https://www.dropbox.com/s/6u58ghi0a42ag4c/noname.zip 2018-06-08T22:26:30 < elektrinis> anyone using truestudio, does this compile for you? 2018-06-08T22:29:19 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800586b00f16b9413a02e6a40.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-08T22:42:49 < Steffanx> I assume you just have the declarations, not the definitions elektrinis. So probably just .h files and no .c files. 2018-06-08T22:43:06 < elektrinis> m, maybe. 2018-06-08T22:43:14 < elektrinis> the files are linked funny... 2018-06-08T22:43:25 < elektrinis> newbie here, not sure how to fix this 2018-06-08T22:43:40 < Streaker> find the .a 2018-06-08T22:43:44 < elektrinis> this project is generated by stm motor workbench 2018-06-08T22:44:06 < Steffanx> or a libary indeed 2018-06-08T22:47:01 < englishman> dependency issues? in eclipse? say it aint so 2018-06-08T22:47:34 < Steffanx> Stop being like Laurenceb, englishman. Aka unfunny. 2018-06-08T22:47:57 < Laurenceb> its funny cuz eclipse is fail central 2018-06-08T22:48:03 < Laurenceb> even gpsd is easier to make work 2018-06-08T22:48:46 < elektrinis> opened up the project and I see some "virtual" folders, that are not there in actual folder 2018-06-08T22:49:09 < Steffanx> What project is this? 2018-06-08T22:49:36 < elektrinis> auto-generated by stmmotor control workbench 2018-06-08T22:49:56 < Steffanx> oh meh 2018-06-08T22:54:46 < jadew> Laurenceb, got a source for this? https://i.imgur.com/WD37T.gif 2018-06-08T22:55:46 < englishman> anthony bourdain killed himself because he ran out of stroopwafel 2018-06-08T22:55:50 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-08T22:56:43 < Steffanx> Bye englishman. Will miss you. 2018-06-08T23:00:36 < upgrdman> cooking pros: do you find a mortar and pestel useful? 2018-06-08T23:00:46 < upgrdman> like, would you use it more than a couple times a year 2018-06-08T23:00:47 < elektrinis> would anyone dare to try and compile said project on truestudio? 2018-06-08T23:01:00 < upgrdman> i dont have ts installed, sorry 2018-06-08T23:01:42 < upgrdman> but for stuff like that: vm's are your friend. always have an snapshot of your os of choice that is virgin other than installing updates and maybe a decent web browser 2018-06-08T23:01:57 < upgrdman> great for testing if weird shit is your fault or not 2018-06-08T23:02:06 < Steffanx> I did, and i even tried for you elektrinis. And like i said it seems you are missing some .c file or perhaps a library. 2018-06-08T23:02:15 < Steffanx> *i do 2018-06-08T23:02:42 < elektrinis> I see that. So these .c files are nowhere in the folders? 2018-06-08T23:02:53 < elektrinis> maybe I just need to include them 2018-06-08T23:03:59 < Steffanx> i think it's some libary. 2018-06-08T23:04:14 < Steffanx> pre-compiled 2018-06-08T23:06:04 < Steffanx> There is some stuff in the mcsdk for me that was installed in C:\Program Files (x86)\STMicroelectronics\MC_SDK_5.1.1\Middlewares\ST\MotorControl\lib 2018-06-08T23:06:15 < Steffanx> Always nice to have such tools in program files 2018-06-08T23:06:32 < elektrinis> hm 2018-06-08T23:10:16 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a00:801:250:cacf:c809:e055:9a35:1472] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-08T23:11:11 < englishman> G3VM-101ER 2018-06-08T23:11:15 < englishman> this is pretty cool 2018-06-08T23:11:17 < englishman> expensive tho 2018-06-08T23:30:39 < zyp> what's that? looks like an optocoupler with a funky output 2018-06-08T23:32:27 < zyp> aha, dual FET output, can either be wired for AC or parallelized for increased current 2018-06-08T23:32:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a00:801:250:cacf:3487:d86a:cda5:2bdb] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-08T23:38:25 < m4t> does anyone know what the stm32mp1 is? recently linux kernel support was upstreamed but i can't find any details on it e.g. at st.com 2018-06-08T23:39:52 < qyx> whats stm32mp1 2018-06-08T23:40:16 < m4t> http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1801.2/00436.html 2018-06-08T23:41:51 < qyx> I cannot find the actual product 2018-06-08T23:42:50 < qyx> ah I see now 2018-06-08T23:42:55 < qyx> you neither 2018-06-08T23:45:10 < m4t> - support for stm32mp157 SOC (based on Cortex-A7) 2018-06-08T23:45:13 < m4t> oh. boring. 2018-06-08T23:45:25 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] --- Day changed Sat Jun 09 2018 2018-06-09T00:08:09 < bitmask> https://i.imgur.com/x3inzAu.jpg 2018-06-09T00:08:11 < bitmask> nice and clean 2018-06-09T00:08:45 < zyp> cute 2018-06-09T00:08:55 < zyp> wish my setup looked that clean 2018-06-09T00:09:45 < zyp> m4t, huh, cortex-a stm32 could be interesting 2018-06-09T00:10:25 < zyp> probably going to be like any other cortex-a SoC though 2018-06-09T00:10:28 < m4t> i guess if they had something to differentiate them from the tons of others 2018-06-09T00:10:30 < m4t> yeah.. 2018-06-09T00:10:42 < zyp> seems like it's a dual a7 2018-06-09T00:11:12 < zyp> if it were a hybrid with some cortex-m cores as well, and identical peripherals to other stm32s, it could be pretty interesting 2018-06-09T00:12:00 < zyp> other vendors already have a/m hybrids, of course, but code compatibility with existing stm32 code would be neat 2018-06-09T00:13:04 < Ultrasauce> is that a smoothie clone? 2018-06-09T00:13:45 < zyp> nah, that's probably some atmega 2018-06-09T00:15:05 < zyp> https://github.com/Broadcom/stblinux/blob/master/Documentation/arm/stm32/stm32mp157-overview.rst 2018-06-09T00:17:48 < Ultrasauce> oh thought the usb-B was eth 2018-06-09T00:21:28 < Ultrasauce> anyone got a preferred vendor for custom usb cables? need some obnoxiously short ones 2018-06-09T00:23:05 < BrainDamage> can't you snip them? how many do you need? 2018-06-09T00:23:15 < mawk> why is that FreeRTOS doesn't like the systick timer ? 2018-06-09T00:23:26 < Ultrasauce> like 100ish probably 2018-06-09T00:23:28 < nn7> zyp, can I message you privately? 2018-06-09T00:24:01 < mawk> cubeMX asks me to use TIMx instead, if I enable FreeRTOS 2018-06-09T00:24:13 < BrainDamage> sounds like a job for your intern 2018-06-09T00:24:27 < Ultrasauce> i dont have a hardware minion 2018-06-09T00:24:47 < BrainDamage> all minions are hardware minions when you look at them sternly 2018-06-09T00:25:05 < stvn> https://avatars1.githubusercontent.com/u/1024025?s=400&v=4 2018-06-09T00:25:16 < Ultrasauce> i actually have no idea how to terminate a usb cable and don't really care to change that in the next month. hence looking for a supplier 2018-06-09T00:27:47 < zyp> nn7, sure 2018-06-09T00:36:11 < stvn> hmmm 2018-06-09T00:36:29 < stvn> linus torvalds' pro github avatar 2018-06-09T00:36:31 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-144-208.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-09T00:36:31 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T00:39:58 < Steffanx> Sunil sdlavrot, stvn 2018-06-09T00:41:26 < upgrdman> Ultrasauce, how short? you can buy 6"/150mm usb cables on amazon 2018-06-09T00:42:21 < BrainDamage> Steffanx's size short? tectu did complain afterall 2018-06-09T00:42:48 < upgrdman> anyway, to answer you q, iirc Dangerous Prototypes has a custom cable service, but i dunno if they do usb. they do clone-jst, etc. 2018-06-09T00:43:01 < Steffanx> They sont usb. 2018-06-09T00:43:03 < Steffanx> Dont 2018-06-09T00:43:06 < upgrdman> ahh ok 2018-06-09T00:44:06 < Steffanx> What does Ultrasauce need anyway? A, B? Mega, mini, micro? 2018-06-09T00:45:50 < Steffanx> Do i have to remind you we couldnt find you at the train station because you were so small, BrainDamage ? 2018-06-09T00:46:44 < stvn> hiiiii stffn 2018-06-09T00:48:22 < BrainDamage> not cute enough, should be more like: hiii stffn ( ﾟ◡◡ﾟ) 2018-06-09T00:48:30 < stvn> lulllllllllll 2018-06-09T00:48:55 < stvn> what are you guys doin on the irc saturday morning :D 2018-06-09T00:49:07 < nn7> Your clock is wrong 2018-06-09T00:49:10 < BrainDamage> it's Friday night, I am drunk 2018-06-09T00:49:18 < stvn> i'm waiting for the blaxter newscast 2018-06-09T00:49:25 < Steffanx> Its friday night, im not drunk. 2018-06-09T00:49:36 < nn7> It's Friday afternoon and I'm not drunk 2018-06-09T00:49:56 < englishman> Ultrasauce: to interface with some camera in a device, i had a make a board with a SMT vertical micro usb on it, then attached to flat cat6 cable, it also had to make like a 180 turn in a tight space. got the whole deal made in china for like $4 2018-06-09T00:50:50 < Steffanx> Isnt dongs our special cable guy? 2018-06-09T00:51:49 < stvn> i was not aware of this 2018-06-09T00:52:07 < stvn> that be cool 2018-06-09T00:52:35 < BrainDamage> special, cable guy or special cable, guy? 2018-06-09T00:53:25 < Steffanx> Whatever makes you feel good, BrainDamage 2018-06-09T00:53:34 < Steffanx> Im happy when you are. 2018-06-09T00:54:46 < stvn> how about tct sama 2018-06-09T00:54:51 < Ultrasauce> A-C, like 4cm 2018-06-09T00:55:14 < kakimir> android beaming service has used 1.3GB of mobile data since I got the phone 2 weeks ago 2018-06-09T00:55:39 < Ultrasauce> mm maybe closer to 8. either way, shorter than 6" which is the shortest i could find from the googles 2018-06-09T00:55:39 < kakimir> like.. half of total 2018-06-09T00:56:14 < Ultrasauce> that sounds a bit like what im going to have to go for englishman 2018-06-09T00:56:18 < Steffanx> Isnt that samsung crap, kakimir ?. 2018-06-09T00:56:27 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-09T00:56:47 < kakimir> the fuck it is doing to send 1.3GB weight of shiet 2018-06-09T00:57:08 < kakimir> I just disabled NFC but I don't think it would cut it 2018-06-09T00:57:17 < BrainDamage> wait what 2018-06-09T00:57:28 < BrainDamage> here it only uses wifi, not net data 2018-06-09T00:58:02 < BrainDamage> and it's not samsung, it's builtin in assdroid 2018-06-09T00:58:24 < BrainDamage> one phone creates a wifi and sends the info though nfc, the other connects 2018-06-09T00:58:47 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-09T00:59:08 < BrainDamage> if yes, why the fuck do you care about net data, it's ad hoc wifi 2018-06-09T00:59:08 < Steffanx> https://m.nl.aliexpress.com/item/32855604775.html the ali not pro enough Ultrasauce? (And pricey) and not really a cable cable 2018-06-09T00:59:16 < kakimir> android operating system shows 1.3GB in data usage 2018-06-09T00:59:29 < kakimir> I open the title android operating system 2018-06-09T01:07:59 < Ultrasauce> wow that unit cost. yeah getting close though 2018-06-09T01:12:16 < zyp> Steffanx, haha, cute 2018-06-09T01:14:09 < zyp> you'd think when they had usb-c and a ribbon cable, they'd put most of the signals on the ribbon cable 2018-06-09T01:14:12 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F9mdaU88q47DqLYtaz-NRTRD75XTRYHz/view?usp=sharing 2018-06-09T01:14:21 < kakimir> I press android operating system title 2018-06-09T01:14:25 < zyp> but it looks like it's only a lot of pins parallelized for gnd and vbus 2018-06-09T01:14:40 < zyp> and two for each of d+/d- 2018-06-09T01:14:42 < Ultrasauce> tbh all i need is charging anyway 2018-06-09T01:15:16 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qX1-YfCmKzZCWpvTuHv0OigN8es_RwV5/view?usp=sharing and it has that beaming thing at the top 2018-06-09T01:17:29 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nvcZGeJRp4_soCMeAnUrsQetGIbU1O8C/view?usp=sharing I press that (i) on beaming service title 2018-06-09T01:18:01 < kakimir> it's not just hogging mobile data 2018-06-09T01:18:03 < Ultrasauce> what a ridiculously incomprehensible language. the fuck is mobiilidata?? 2018-06-09T01:18:14 < zyp> mobile data? 2018-06-09T01:18:51 < kakimir> I wonder if my operating system updates are via this thing 2018-06-09T01:19:26 < zyp> what's Gt? gigatit? 2018-06-09T01:20:03 < kakimir> gigatavu 2018-06-09T01:20:35 < kakimir> tavu = syllable, byte 2018-06-09T01:20:50 < stvn> oh 2018-06-09T01:24:26 < kakimir> gigatits 2018-06-09T01:25:37 < kakimir> not megatits - but gigatits 2018-06-09T01:27:01 < stvn> k 2018-06-09T01:27:18 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhceejitccdnxzwr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-09T01:40:51 < kakimir> when I first got LTE connection to my phone I tethered about a 1TB of data in a month 2018-06-09T01:41:13 < kakimir> something like 800-900GB 2018-06-09T01:42:26 < englishman> karlp: ST btle mesh looks cool, but still no included support for power management 2018-06-09T01:42:55 < englishman> so doing huge meshes from cell batteries will still be a bit tricky. which is ok 2018-06-09T01:44:20 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T01:48:22 < nn7> Why do all the DWT microsecond delay sample codes cause an infinite delay on my stm32? 2018-06-09T01:49:24 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o3kjGlpaUBJkTCANRXaHaMpeVAJubhet/view?usp=sharing 2AM light level 2018-06-09T01:49:46 < BrainDamage> can you take a pic of the sun? 2018-06-09T01:49:54 < kakimir> and it's cloudy 2018-06-09T01:50:45 < kakimir> BrainDamage, no.. I should wait until 2:35 BrainDamage 2018-06-09T01:52:45 < kakimir> for few months totally shading curtains are must 2018-06-09T01:53:01 < kakimir> and for rest of the time don't even need curtains 2018-06-09T01:53:36 < zyp> pff 2018-06-09T01:53:53 < zyp> didn't you grow up in the north? 2018-06-09T01:54:41 < zyp> I got used to falling asleep regardless of the light level as a kid, never had a problem with that 2018-06-09T01:55:26 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-09T01:55:59 < zyp> as a student I also tended to sleep in the daytime and stay up at night :p 2018-06-09T02:01:01 < stvn> a true IRC 2018-06-09T02:01:16 < zyp> yup 2018-06-09T02:01:18 < stvn> also i have to laugh http://www.dell.com/ed/p/alienware-steam-machine/pd 2018-06-09T02:01:32 < stvn> almost forgot about the abortion 2018-06-09T02:02:44 < BrainDamage> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d8/1a/31/d81a319330b2fa37f3cb03899e76d404.jpg 2018-06-09T02:04:54 < Thorn> need a sot23 sized diode bridge 2018-06-09T02:05:00 < stvn> indeed it is BrainDamage 2018-06-09T02:05:17 < stvn> hmmm 2018-06-09T02:05:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@dsl081-168-224.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T02:06:43 < stvn> so smarl thorn... 2018-06-09T02:07:35 < kakimir> Thorn, why 2018-06-09T02:07:57 < kakimir> full bridge rectifier? 2018-06-09T02:08:27 < Thorn> because optocouplers with 2 leds are expensive 2018-06-09T02:09:21 < stvn> dual channel optos? 2018-06-09T02:09:42 < stvn> that's kawaii mate 2018-06-09T02:09:51 < Thorn> 1 channel with 2 antiparallel leds 2018-06-09T02:10:08 < Thorn> for AC or any polarity DC 2018-06-09T02:10:22 < stvn> i was autisming y-capacitor fired synchronous rectifier drivers the other day 2018-06-09T02:10:43 < stvn> (completely off topic but) 2018-06-09T02:15:41 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-09T02:21:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@dsl081-168-224.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T02:27:37 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T02:27:38 < Laurenceb_> hum gui, muh heritage of segfaults 2018-06-09T02:27:46 < Laurenceb_> gui is almost wurking now 2018-06-09T02:29:03 < Laurenceb_> muh first pc application 2018-06-09T02:29:47 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-09T02:31:13 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T02:31:52 < upgrdman> Laurenceb_, what are you gui'ing 2018-06-09T02:32:00 < Laurenceb_> still needs influxdb interface... my sides 2018-06-09T02:32:14 < Laurenceb_> upgrdman: nobody knows, there is no clear list of requirements 2018-06-09T02:32:36 < Laurenceb_> but it has to scan all usb devices from userspace, then stick a list of relevant ones up in a gui 2018-06-09T02:33:06 < upgrdman> "no clear list of requirements" ... good, im not the only one 2018-06-09T02:33:10 < Laurenceb_> then atm you load configurations of audio/gps/custom usb sensor units from csv files and click record, and it saves to wav 2018-06-09T02:33:27 < Laurenceb_> I'm just adding a feature to highlight all the icons you want to use 2018-06-09T02:33:55 < Laurenceb_> but its also supposed to be able to stick everything onto a influxdb server via ip... I think 2018-06-09T02:34:41 < Laurenceb_> I was going to write a wizard for creating new configuration csv files, but nobody seems to care about having to use excel so thats cool 2018-06-09T02:36:17 < Laurenceb_> 99% of the problem is that it has to be fault tolerant, align custom sensors and audio devices to ~100µs, and alert user to dodgy looking data automatically as its running 2018-06-09T02:36:30 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T02:37:01 < Laurenceb_> also hot swap sensors / usb hardware or change configurations in the middle of a recording without losing sync 2018-06-09T02:38:21 < Laurenceb_> so I'm using usb frame numbers for sync and each device has its own thread 2018-06-09T02:38:43 < Laurenceb_> good news all of that crazyness is now working O_o 2018-06-09T02:39:42 < upgrdman> hmm. are usb frame numbers guaranteed to increment by 1 every millisecond? what if usb is saturated? 2018-06-09T02:40:13 < Laurenceb_> heh yeah then it might break lol 2018-06-09T02:41:35 < Laurenceb_> but usb audio devices and the usb audio class sensors are all isochronous, so I think that means that adding so many devices that the usb saturates is impossible 2018-06-09T02:41:54 < Laurenceb_> they wont enumerate properly and the configuration loader will give an error to the user 2018-06-09T02:41:54 < upgrdman> i've experience much pain when dev'ing something on my nice surface bro 4, and then seeing weird bugs when its run on some old i3 win7 china pc 2018-06-09T02:42:01 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T02:42:09 < Laurenceb_> well I've made this lunix only :P 2018-06-09T02:42:17 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-09T02:42:52 < upgrdman> it's also super annoying when many of the pc's are offline, so no windows updates or driver updates 2018-06-09T02:43:09 < upgrdman> "oh great, a weird quick i need to work around" 2018-06-09T02:43:14 < upgrdman> quirk* 2018-06-09T02:43:43 < upgrdman> but i suppose it is good being forced to write robust software :) 2018-06-09T02:46:07 < Laurenceb_> the autist managers are going to ask for influxdb, I just know it 2018-06-09T02:46:32 < Laurenceb_> but each machine running the gui is an a random ambulance... 2018-06-09T02:46:44 < Laurenceb_> >need to store data locally 2018-06-09T02:46:52 < Laurenceb_> >need to regularly get wifi 2018-06-09T02:47:18 < Laurenceb_> >need to upload to server, needs data access webshite on server, needs wav export tools 2018-06-09T02:47:57 < Laurenceb_> or we could just use gui -> wav file -> dropbox 2018-06-09T02:49:01 < Laurenceb_> but that wont be autastic enough 2018-06-09T02:54:19 < Laurenceb_> https://thechimericalcapuchin.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/autismlevels-300x230.jpg 2018-06-09T02:54:44 < Laurenceb_> found background image for the wav/influx selector dialog 2018-06-09T02:59:39 < Laurenceb_> > the set of Jordan Peterson fans is a collective, individualism btfo 2018-06-09T03:02:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T03:02:42 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/OdtJtUY 2018-06-09T03:05:48 < Cracki> unity for me, division for thee 2018-06-09T03:05:53 < Cracki> *us :> 2018-06-09T03:06:34 < Cracki> they're gonna do a genetics DB to let you check if you're marrying one of your tribe 2018-06-09T03:06:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T03:09:16 < Laurenceb_> heh 2018-06-09T03:09:31 < Laurenceb_> I tried testing the database idea with a bash script 2018-06-09T03:09:42 < Laurenceb_> went up to 70% cpu on my xeon workstation 2018-06-09T03:09:48 < Laurenceb_> just adding the data in real time 2018-06-09T03:10:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-09T03:13:57 < Laurenceb_> ▲ 2018-06-09T03:13:57 < Laurenceb_> ▲‌ ▲ 2018-06-09T03:17:03 < Cracki> seems it wasn't made for time series data this dense 2018-06-09T03:17:11 < Cracki> but for web wankery 2018-06-09T03:20:15 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-09T03:26:56 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2018-06-09T03:32:16 < Laurenceb_> wew @ this tesla crash 2018-06-09T03:32:47 < Laurenceb_> turns out tesla "autopilot" it literally camera based lane finder and 1d radar based cruise control 2018-06-09T03:33:03 < Laurenceb_> this was a demo on the atmel ap7000 in 2008 lol 2018-06-09T03:33:51 < Laurenceb_> it crashed because there were some goofy road marks that looked like a lane going straight into a lane divider 2018-06-09T03:34:46 < Laurenceb_> camera data is ignored apart from lane finding, and radar doppler from stationary objects is filtered out, so a crash was inevitable 2018-06-09T03:35:13 < Laurenceb_> musk confirmed as copypastering perman00b 2018-06-09T03:38:09 < Laurenceb_> my workstation was previously used for deep learning stuff, it has titan x and 128GB ram 2018-06-09T03:38:22 < Laurenceb_> I should try some tensorflow or something 2018-06-09T03:41:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a00:801:250:cacf:3487:d86a:cda5:2bdb] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-09T03:55:30 -!- markus-k [~markus@server01.comtime-it.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-09T03:56:59 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/UZ5yls0.png uhh what is that doing inside GPU bios 2018-06-09T03:59:18 < dongs> ahh maybe its a cert and bigben is the internal timestamp server during signing 2018-06-09T04:02:01 < Laurenceb_> big ben 4 u 2018-06-09T04:05:12 < Laurenceb_> https://www.google.com/search?q=welshposting&client=ubuntu&hs=BU&channel=fs&gl=uk&source=lnms&tbm=isch 2018-06-09T04:05:32 < dongs> notfunny.png 2018-06-09T04:10:43 < dongs> gayvidia released "displayport 1.3/1.4" update for pascal cards, will that finally fix the dell cockups??? 2018-06-09T04:10:47 < dongs> updated and hoping 2018-06-09T04:11:06 < dongs> its video bios level update soooo who knows 2018-06-09T04:15:19 < Laurenceb_> ywlts GERMany become anti-uk https://imgur.com/gTu3c9h 2018-06-09T04:18:43 < dongs> > mailonline 2018-06-09T04:24:45 < jadew> lol... I'm going through a privacy policy generator and it has the following options for "Users will be notified of any privacy policy changes": "- Via email, - On our privacy policy page (most likely)" 2018-06-09T04:36:08 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-09T04:42:01 -!- mitrax [mitrax@LFbn-NCY-1-255-144.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 2018-06-09T04:43:52 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B0811FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T04:48:21 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32101.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-09T04:59:09 < dongs> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/08/yahoo_kills_messenger/ 2018-06-09T04:59:10 < dongs> wut 2018-06-09T04:59:14 < dongs> i thought thats been dead for a long time 2018-06-09T04:59:32 < dongs> i have an old XP VM that used to have YM installed and it stopped connecting like 4+ years ago 2018-06-09T05:12:45 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-09T05:15:09 < stvn> they kept it going so these fucking pedos could login and get stung by police posing as preteens 2018-06-09T05:20:04 < stvn> https://eniggers.wordpress.com 2018-06-09T05:21:39 < stvn> who made this? 2018-06-09T05:25:55 < stvn> blaxter_koin 2018-06-09T05:28:26 < jadew> 2 hours in, I still don't have a fucking privacy policy 2018-06-09T05:28:48 < stvn> whut is that mate? 2018-06-09T05:29:08 < jadew> it's a piece of text where you let users know how you use their data 2018-06-09T05:29:23 < stvn> hmmmm 2018-06-09T05:29:38 < stvn> the shattered paperwork 2018-06-09T05:29:45 < jadew> most of them basically declare that they're royally screwing the user, even if they don't do that, just to be covered 2018-06-09T05:29:51 < stvn> ^ 2018-06-09T05:30:20 < stvn> i do remember most of that crap during my time in "the company" 2018-06-09T05:30:32 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-09T05:30:32 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T05:30:34 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-09T06:04:53 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-09T06:04:53 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T06:04:55 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-09T06:42:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-09T06:51:32 < jadew> lol, this is in the default T&C generated by shopify: "We do not warrant that the quality of any products, services, information, or other material purchased or obtained by you will meet your expectations, or that any errors in the Service will be corrected." 2018-06-09T06:51:58 < jadew> that's kind of a shitty thing to have in the T&C but it kinda makes sense, because the customer's expectations are subjective 2018-06-09T06:52:51 < jadew> this is a long fucking read... 2018-06-09T07:05:02 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-09T07:05:21 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T07:05:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T07:08:50 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T07:10:59 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T07:13:21 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T07:14:26 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T07:37:28 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T07:40:40 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-09T07:40:43 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-09T08:02:30 < stvn> I have discovered a new condition - rgyia - retro game youtube infused autism 2018-06-09T08:02:51 < stvn> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1973096722/planet-x3-for-ms-dos 2018-06-09T08:18:39 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T08:24:25 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T08:25:49 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T08:32:56 < stvn> bit coin 2018-06-09T09:03:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-09T09:12:17 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-09T09:52:16 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T10:13:45 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T10:41:41 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8002ef500c5fd0a8df82b1cd4.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T11:19:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T12:39:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d2ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-09T12:51:58 < stvn> sniff sniff 2018-06-09T13:10:18 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:3440:7960:e1aa:d43] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T13:18:25 < stvn> friend forwarded me to main vein of lunatics in australia https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3h7yw3f9QCdbAe-r2JWUNA/videos 2018-06-09T13:45:37 < stvn> uber eats (shit) 2018-06-09T14:07:24 < karlp> fucking stefan's mobile dutch aliexpress links. 2018-06-09T14:08:47 < stvn> innit 2018-06-09T14:08:55 < stvn> im running linux 2018-06-09T14:35:53 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 2018-06-09T14:39:58 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8002ef500c5fd0a8df82b1cd4.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-09T14:42:25 < Steffanx> I love you too, karlp or should i say carlp? 2018-06-09T14:45:21 < Steffanx> Karlp, i even helped you guys. I believe it was even amped. 2018-06-09T14:45:28 < Steffanx> I unamped it 2018-06-09T14:47:48 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T14:57:58 < stvn> amped mate 2018-06-09T15:01:00 < PeterM> man aliexpress mobile is so bad, and the app somehow is even worse 2018-06-09T15:01:56 < fest> Laurenceb_: is there a report on that line divider crash? 2018-06-09T15:12:19 < stvn> the concept of actually using aliexpress is beyond me 2018-06-09T15:13:51 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Z6uDczkM/chamshung.JPG 2018-06-09T15:14:03 < stvn> i like how the newer one looks cheaper than the old one 2018-06-09T15:18:08 < stvn> send them to dave jones to do a TEARDOWN? 2018-06-09T15:27:01 < Steffanx> Do you always write on your ssds stvn? 2018-06-09T15:27:50 -!- chris_99 [uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shpybmoioqgqabgs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T15:28:19 < stvn> nope 2018-06-09T15:28:24 < stvn> i have 2 of the new 500gb one 2018-06-09T15:28:37 < Steffanx> Not pci ssd? 2018-06-09T15:28:40 < stvn> nuh 2018-06-09T15:28:41 < Steffanx> No* 2018-06-09T15:29:53 < stvn> should i? 2018-06-09T15:30:03 < Steffanx> Idk 2018-06-09T15:30:36 < stvn> i herd this new fangled z370 chipset has some cool new ssd features 2018-06-09T15:31:13 < Steffanx> Idk 2018-06-09T15:31:17 < stvn> some new pci interface 2018-06-09T15:31:32 < Steffanx> Do you have such interface? 2018-06-09T15:31:43 < stvn> m2 something something 2018-06-09T15:31:54 < stvn> think it just sticks right into the motherboard ya? 2018-06-09T15:32:01 < Steffanx> Isnt that ole? 2018-06-09T15:32:02 < Steffanx> Old 2018-06-09T15:32:06 < stvn> idk 2018-06-09T15:32:36 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-09T15:33:19 < chris_99> Hi, a while ago you guys gave me lots of help with my board, which i just got https://www.anfractuosity.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/IMG_4753.jpg :) i'm just having a slightly weird issue, which i wonder if you could help with, if i program the device, leaving the programmer plugged in, then unplug my board and plug it in again, the USB example i run on my board works fine, however if i plugin my board without the programmer 2018-06-09T15:33:19 < chris_99> it doesn't seem to run (as in lsusb -vvv, doesn't show the strings of the USB example) just wondering if there may be any obvious reasons for this? 2018-06-09T15:35:06 < stvn> Intel® Optane™ Memory Ready, Ultra-Fast M.2 with PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA interface... eh 2018-06-09T15:36:11 < chris_99> oh doh, i may have done something slightly wrong i guess on the board. as if i unplug all the jumper wires connecting my board to the programmer, then it does run when i plug in via usb 2018-06-09T15:43:13 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T15:43:28 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-09T16:00:22 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-09T16:05:01 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-09T16:05:08 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T16:15:02 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8002ef500c5fd0a8df82b1cd4.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T16:24:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T16:24:48 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/sYihnKb 2018-06-09T16:25:38 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T16:38:27 < stvn> hi 2018-06-09T16:38:51 < stvn> translation dr.b? 2018-06-09T16:41:18 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T16:41:50 < Laurenceb_> le radical individualism of the Sargon 2018-06-09T16:42:01 < Laurenceb_> >Sargon fans form a set 2018-06-09T16:42:08 < Laurenceb_> >Sargon fans are a collective 2018-06-09T16:49:34 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/NN82kns 2018-06-09T16:49:39 < Laurenceb_> when u troll a dead person 2018-06-09T16:51:59 < stvn> lol just get a look at it 2018-06-09T16:54:53 < Laurenceb_> lul the amerimutts 2018-06-09T16:55:14 < Laurenceb_> >>You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil. You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually it's quite fun to shoot them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot. It's fun to shoot people. 2018-06-09T16:55:37 < Laurenceb_> this is the commander of us army, my sides 2018-06-09T16:59:12 < stvn> muh heritage 2018-06-09T17:05:15 -!- markus-k [~markus@server01.comtime-it.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T17:05:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T17:17:26 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T17:17:49 -!- chris_99 [uid26561@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shpybmoioqgqabgs] has quit [] 2018-06-09T17:19:43 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/TmyYdyN 2018-06-09T17:19:56 < Laurenceb_> busted 2018-06-09T17:26:36 < stvn> what will you do now Laurenceb_ 2018-06-09T17:26:57 < Laurenceb_> have to create new trolling account 2018-06-09T17:30:58 < bitmask> so I just got a crimping tool, is there a list of what die to use for what? I mostly got it for the color coded terminals which is easy enough looking but what about for like jst or whatever 2018-06-09T17:32:49 < invzim> for jst, use HOZAN 2018-06-09T17:38:48 < Laurenceb_> https://gfycat.com/DirtyFlickeringHawaiianmonkseal 2018-06-09T17:41:42 < Cracki> crowd surfing! what a blast! 2018-06-09T17:43:55 < bitmask> https://www.amazon.com/JX-1601-08-Alloy-Ratchet-Crimping-Pliers/dp/B075FT42WM 2018-06-09T17:44:01 < bitmask> those work? 2018-06-09T17:47:53 < BrainDamage> depends what do you need to crimp 2018-06-09T17:48:01 < BrainDamage> eg you want hex dies for coax 2018-06-09T17:48:46 < bitmask> well I got it mainly for those color coded spade/circle/fork terminals which I know what die to use for that, I just figured maybe one of the dies that came with it would work for jst as well 2018-06-09T18:05:43 < Cracki> in my experience, jst needs the crimp to be round/square, not flat/rectangular (as the die you posted would do) 2018-06-09T18:06:01 < Cracki> or I used the wrong die to crimp my stuff :> 2018-06-09T18:06:18 < Cracki> if it fits in the housing, it should be good 2018-06-09T18:08:04 < bitmask> ok i'll have to experiment later 2018-06-09T18:08:31 < bitmask> I'm about to do my first crimp on a blue terminal, and I'm looking at the die and yellow is the smallest but the terminals yellow is the biggest, what is going on here :/ 2018-06-09T18:10:03 < Cracki> what is a "blue terminal"? 2018-06-09T18:10:18 < Cracki> do you think the colors are a standardized coding? I'd doubt that 2018-06-09T18:11:09 < bitmask> yes I do, the die has a color coding 2018-06-09T18:11:47 < bitmask> https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT51F2BWq_0IhicRWc3BAp-vR6460lxEjsbonpXT3t9pInWICcXUg 2018-06-09T18:11:55 < bitmask> thats the type of assortment I have for ring/fork/spades 2018-06-09T18:12:14 < Cracki> ah THOSE things 2018-06-09T18:12:20 < bitmask> https://img.banggood.com/images/oaupload/banggood/images/47/1C/76a3d800-7edf-47b2-8f89-2f611ee498a0.jpg 2018-06-09T18:12:26 < Cracki> those are for high current applications 2018-06-09T18:12:30 < bitmask> and number 3 has the colors but as you see yellow is the smallest there 2018-06-09T18:12:55 < bitmask> yea Im rewiring my 3d printer 2018-06-09T18:13:08 < Cracki> >banggood 2018-06-09T18:13:14 < BrainDamage> square dies are ok for nearly all of those 2018-06-09T18:13:28 < Cracki> you better stop referencing chinese sites for european standards 2018-06-09T18:13:29 < bitmask> well I have the specific die for it, the #3 2018-06-09T18:14:53 < stvn> CRIMP IT 2018-06-09T18:17:49 * invzim crimps 2018-06-09T18:25:14 < bitmask> ahh, when the colors are in that order its for mini terminals 2018-06-09T18:25:21 < bitmask> lame 2018-06-09T18:30:00 < stvn> ty 2018-06-09T18:36:41 < bitmask> success, all that worrying for nothing 2018-06-09T18:39:19 < Steffanx> np 2018-06-09T18:50:07 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T18:50:07 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-09T18:50:07 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T18:54:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T18:59:05 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-09T19:06:31 < Cracki> lol https://www.salon.com/2002/05/07/students/ 2018-06-09T19:09:46 < Cracki> rogue state 2018-06-09T19:09:52 < Cracki> nuclear arsenal 2018-06-09T19:10:41 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-09T19:16:05 < Laurenceb_> I've always had ok results just soldering crimps 2018-06-09T19:16:10 < Laurenceb_> apparently this is ebil 2018-06-09T19:16:50 < Laurenceb_> bigoted, racist, and vile soldering of crimps. Just another sign of Trump's america 2018-06-09T19:17:06 < Cracki> high-current joints are supposed to be crimped because solder might melt 2018-06-09T19:17:36 < Laurenceb_> true 2018-06-09T19:46:22 < invzim> yay, aes256 bootloaderstuff werks 2018-06-09T19:46:46 < invzim> https://github.com/kokke/tiny-AES-c 2018-06-09T19:47:16 < invzim> the flash operations take more time than decrypting it seems 2018-06-09T19:47:27 < invzim> stm32f401 @ 84mhz 2018-06-09T19:49:11 < Laurenceb_> arggg 2018-06-09T19:49:24 < Laurenceb_> >Turn on radio > its an americunt talking 2018-06-09T19:49:35 < Laurenceb_> need to bulldoze the whole country into the ground 2018-06-09T19:49:54 < Laurenceb_> Christian saudi arabia 2018-06-09T19:55:38 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T19:56:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T19:58:19 < Steffanx> cool cool invzim 2018-06-09T19:58:45 < Steffanx> 1k code size is pretty nice indeed 2018-06-09T20:00:08 < barthess> yep 2018-06-09T20:00:22 < barthess> but I'm AFK 2018-06-09T20:00:26 < invzim> the HAL stuff makes the bootloader occupy 48k.. but as long as it works well.. 2018-06-09T20:02:28 < Steffanx> What kind of bootlaoder is it then? Ethernet? 2018-06-09T20:03:06 < Steffanx> Hello welcome mr sir superbia 2018-06-09T20:03:22 < invzim> sd card, fatds, oled screen, buttons, sha1, aes256 2018-06-09T20:03:30 < Steffanx> ah 2018-06-09T20:04:05 < zyp> boatloader 2018-06-09T20:04:16 < invzim> not sure exactly WHAT is taking up so much of the space 2018-06-09T20:04:44 < invzim> compiles to 35K, compiler options didn't really do much 2018-06-09T20:05:35 < invzim> would be nice to get it to fit within 32k, but not going to go crazy with it 2018-06-09T20:07:33 < Steffanx> i dont give a damn. not sure what ##stm32 said 2018-06-09T20:07:42 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T20:08:14 < invzim> Use github for work, don't care - for personal stuff I use bitbucket 2018-06-09T20:09:37 < Steffanx> and how did superbia take it? 2018-06-09T20:10:45 < Steffanx> That answer was too predictable. 2018-06-09T20:12:09 < Steffanx> github.com/ranewen ? 2018-06-09T20:14:02 < Steffanx> Are you female? Would explain your bitchiness sometimes :P 2018-06-09T20:16:52 < karlp> hehe: 15:24 Because I knocked the resistor at r77 off and I was wondering if it was required 2018-06-09T20:21:34 < Cracki> decorative components 2018-06-09T20:29:32 < kakimir> hello pumper 2018-06-09T20:31:26 < kakimir> flying 2018-06-09T20:31:40 < kakimir> my first air tow 2018-06-09T20:32:13 < Steffanx> random cover music for you kakimir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSJJM_p7yk 2018-06-09T20:32:19 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOCATA_Rallye_family hooked into ass of this plane 2018-06-09T20:33:08 < kakimir> no 2018-06-09T20:33:17 < kakimir> it was pretty hard weather 2018-06-09T20:33:20 < kakimir> no time for bloggings 2018-06-09T20:33:42 < kakimir> also in airtowing it is easy to go into oscillation 2018-06-09T20:33:52 < kakimir> overcorrect overcorrection 2018-06-09T20:34:14 < kakimir> that is the next lesson 2018-06-09T20:34:19 < kakimir> to fly inverted 2018-06-09T20:34:27 < kakimir> in aero tow 2018-06-09T20:35:41 < kakimir> I let my teacher to try to get back to thermals @ 300m 2018-06-09T20:35:56 < kakimir> he failed - there was no weather 2018-06-09T20:36:04 < BrainDamage> did you die 2018-06-09T20:36:42 < Steffanx> That would mean im dead too? 2018-06-09T20:37:00 < kakimir> entered base section of pattern at 80meters 2018-06-09T20:37:33 < kakimir> normally at 150meters min. 2018-06-09T20:39:46 < kakimir> glided without brakes to threshold keeping 100kmh for safety because of deep rivers behind runway because of vortexes 2018-06-09T20:40:48 < kakimir> then a little bit of brakes to make it sit 2018-06-09T20:42:12 < kakimir> because of those rivers final is usually 70-100% brakes and thing drops like a rock to threshold 2018-06-09T20:42:38 < Steffanx> so this wasnt you kakimir: https://media.dumpert.nl/tablet/3254bdb5_ikhebeendoodswens.mp4.mp4.mp4 2018-06-09T20:42:47 < BrainDamage> when do you plan to strap a JATO rocket? 2018-06-09T20:45:45 < BrainDamage> mp4.mp4.mp4 2018-06-09T20:46:33 < Steffanx> Yeah, blame those weird dutchies. 2018-06-09T20:48:09 < kakimir> Steffanx, wow that is lucky 2018-06-09T20:48:28 < Steffanx> and stupod. 2018-06-09T20:48:29 < Steffanx> id 2018-06-09T20:51:06 < kakimir> I have done paragliding twice 2018-06-09T20:51:13 < kakimir> I don't plan to do it anymore 2018-06-09T20:51:27 < kakimir> it's pretty dangerous shiet 2018-06-09T20:52:44 < kakimir> I don't like lines making knots around me while I'm falling like a rock with sagging chute 2018-06-09T20:53:50 < kakimir> besides paragliders are kind of noobs in terms of aviation.. friend gave me a pattern for landing that worked day before fine 2018-06-09T20:54:02 < kakimir> so the wind had changed 2018-06-09T20:54:58 < kakimir> and I fell into melting ice of lake 2018-06-09T20:56:27 < kakimir> I swam to shore with propably pulling 2tonnes of water and ice behind me in chute 2018-06-09T20:57:00 < kakimir> thing doesn't even glide! 2018-06-09T20:57:13 < kakimir> if it's not 30:1 or more it's shiet 2018-06-09T21:00:22 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:01:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-09T21:02:04 < kakimir> https://www.slavorum.org/belarusian-pilot-crashes-and-gets-impaled-by-tree-poses-for-pictures-and-shouts-to-doctors-i-am-groot/ from #elsewhere 2018-06-09T21:02:42 < kakimir> "“Many people came. I told them – ‘Take out this splinter’,” he said in the video." 2018-06-09T21:03:10 -!- ski4x7 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:03:21 -!- XTL_ [xtl@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:03:54 -!- CheBuzz- [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:04:04 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:04:04 -!- branjb [~pseudosin@c-73-24-157-174.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:04:04 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:04:06 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@mirage335-base.soaringindustries.space] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:04:06 -!- XTL [xtl@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:04:06 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:04:06 -!- CheBuzz- is now known as CheBuzz 2018-06-09T21:04:10 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-09T21:04:10 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:04:23 -!- branjb [~pseudosin@c-73-24-157-174.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:05:51 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-cnhcueccjdtaszxf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:07:09 < kakimir> I don't this so 2018-06-09T21:08:57 < invzim> I'm sure he got some really nice drugs :) 2018-06-09T21:09:17 < kakimir> invzim, he doesn't seem high 2018-06-09T21:11:10 < invzim> https://www.slavorum.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/f34ca9915b153882c656734d99c47f83-1024x694.png 2018-06-09T21:11:13 < invzim> not at all :) 2018-06-09T21:12:30 < kakimir> you don't strike a pose like that when you are pumped with morphines 2018-06-09T21:12:31 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8002ef500c5fd0a8df82b1cd4.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-09T21:12:54 < kakimir> it's full adrenaline 2018-06-09T21:14:11 < kakimir> but talk of luck - my teacher hit a tree in final in early 2000's 2018-06-09T21:14:20 < kakimir> with student 2018-06-09T21:15:16 < kakimir> plane does weird thing when one wing stops to tree - another wing accelerates 2018-06-09T21:15:39 < kakimir> stall another wing and very high lift on another 2018-06-09T21:15:48 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:16:18 < kakimir> imbalance flips plane instantly inverted 2018-06-09T21:16:45 < kakimir> they fell into trees inverted 2018-06-09T21:18:02 < kakimir> they didn't only survive but didn't get injured - without a scrach as he said 2018-06-09T21:18:26 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:18:38 < kakimir> there was a pit in ground in point cockpit hit 2018-06-09T21:26:51 < kakimir> what I learned about the story - teacher was not too serious about it 2018-06-09T21:27:34 < kakimir> it wasn't a bad traumatizing memory 2018-06-09T21:28:43 < kakimir> at the moment I was so tense and serious it affected my performance 2018-06-09T21:32:33 < kakimir> just got my licence - just failed landing on type flight of first solo plane losing control at landing because of overspeed.. those make or break moments 2018-06-09T21:34:40 < kakimir> when passion for something wins fear 2018-06-09T21:34:56 -!- XTL_ is now known as XTL 2018-06-09T21:38:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:39:23 < Streaker> "The memoirs of Mohammad Atta" 2018-06-09T21:40:21 < kakimir> :D 2018-06-09T21:42:47 < kakimir> 200eur spent to flying today 2018-06-09T21:45:55 < kakimir> initial payment of 100eur for season, 6eur for using facilities, 2 x 30eur for towing, 15eur for plane rent, 25eur for diesel to car + lunch = ~215eur 2018-06-09T21:46:09 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-09T21:47:47 < Steffanx> ok. 2018-06-09T21:47:55 < Steffanx> Hobbies cost money. 2018-06-09T21:48:08 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T21:48:12 < kakimir> I need to invest about 400eur to level I get validation for aerotow 2018-06-09T21:50:24 < kakimir> maybe 600eur if I collect fly time same time for passenger validation 2018-06-09T21:51:54 < Steffanx> At least you make big money right? 2018-06-09T21:52:03 < bitmask> wiring done! https://i.imgur.com/YFqvXhl.jpg 2018-06-09T21:53:01 < kakimir> Steffanx, just enough 2018-06-09T21:55:44 < bitmask> I think I'll print my first benchy 2018-06-09T22:03:41 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-09T22:14:51 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-09T22:21:43 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T23:03:58 < Steffanx> did you mod your leaf yet englishman? Like this dutchie: https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerElectronicsBlog/videos 2018-06-09T23:13:33 -!- psprint_ [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T23:14:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T23:16:20 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-09T23:17:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T23:28:46 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-djgmfukxfswlljix] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-09T23:31:07 -!- psprint_ is now known as psprint 2018-06-09T23:34:21 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T23:49:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-09T23:58:26 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Jun 10 2018 2018-06-10T00:12:33 < zyp> Steffanx, anything cool or just cosmetic bullshit? 2018-06-10T00:12:48 < zyp> oh, extending range 2018-06-10T00:12:49 < zyp> cool 2018-06-10T00:20:33 < Steffanx> Indeed. Wouldnt have linked otherwise. 2018-06-10T00:22:17 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-10T00:29:10 < Steffanx> The custom logo is cool too though. But the Leaf is still ugly ;) 2018-06-10T00:32:22 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/xcMSl.mp4 <- apparently I'm printing a murder scene 2018-06-10T00:32:56 < zyp> (and yes, shroud came loose from the bed 2018-06-10T00:32:59 < zyp> ) 2018-06-10T00:34:00 < Steffanx> What kind of fancy multi colour stuff is this? 2018-06-10T00:34:18 < zyp> dual nozzle shit 2018-06-10T00:34:24 < zyp> it's pretty bullshit 2018-06-10T00:34:39 < zyp> but this printer came with two so I figured why not give it a try 2018-06-10T00:36:29 < englishman> Steffanx: range is sufficient for now, being able to charge faster is more important right now 2018-06-10T00:36:36 < englishman> pretty cool blog tho 2018-06-10T00:36:37 < zyp> it's spending more time per layer wiping the nozzles than it's spending actually printing 2018-06-10T00:36:47 < zyp> englishman, faster than what? 2018-06-10T00:36:55 < englishman> 110v15a 2018-06-10T00:37:29 < zyp> fair 2018-06-10T00:37:47 < englishman> the car can do 120km no problem, but doing it two days in a row is a little annoying 2018-06-10T00:37:49 < zyp> how long does it take from empty to full with that? like 15 hours? 2018-06-10T00:37:54 < englishman> longer 2018-06-10T00:38:08 < englishman> up to 28 if completely empty 2018-06-10T00:38:12 < zyp> wat 2018-06-10T00:38:29 < zyp> mine can do empty to full in 8 hours on 230V16A 2018-06-10T00:38:30 < englishman> 24kWh, plus balancing and losses 2018-06-10T00:38:50 < englishman> yeah it's not that slow, but it's still quite slow 2018-06-10T00:39:28 < zyp> mode 2 cable is limited to 10A, that adds a few hours but still mostly plenty for overnight 2018-06-10T00:39:36 < zyp> unless I come home really late and leave really early 2018-06-10T00:40:33 < englishman> well, home at 11, leave at 7 2018-06-10T00:40:57 < zyp> that counts as late/early to me :) 2018-06-10T00:41:05 < englishman> thing is to run new cable to the garage, I can add to the hanging span, or bury new lines 2018-06-10T00:41:33 < englishman> adding to the span means I need expensive single cables and 8awg minimum 2018-06-10T00:41:44 < englishman> burying is cheaper, but a lot of work 2018-06-10T00:42:19 < zyp> speaking of cars, I ran to the store earlier, hit 50k: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/aLKWF.jpg 2018-06-10T00:42:59 < englishman> nice 2018-06-10T00:43:45 < mawk> can I use some random zigbee module to do something else than zigbee ? 2018-06-10T00:43:51 < mawk> I need raw access to 802.15.4 frames 2018-06-10T00:43:56 < mawk> it's this thing for instance: https://www.mouser.fr/datasheet/2/111/ds_xbee_zigbee-1019686.pdf 2018-06-10T00:43:58 < zyp> mawk, maybe, depends on the module 2018-06-10T00:44:27 < mawk> I see 2018-06-10T00:49:24 < zyp> this dual print is so fucking slow 2018-06-10T00:49:42 < zyp> when I printed this in a single color, it took about an hour and a half 2018-06-10T00:50:03 < zyp> now I'm an hour and a half into this print, and it's only about a third of the way into the file 2018-06-10T00:50:14 < zyp> and a fourth of the total height 2018-06-10T00:52:25 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T00:59:17 < kakimir> https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000005710377.html kalsarikännit is now internationally the most known finnish thing 2018-06-10T00:59:27 < kakimir> and it has been translated to english 2018-06-10T00:59:35 < kakimir> "päntsdrunk" 2018-06-10T01:00:18 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:3440:7960:e1aa:d43] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-10T01:00:22 < zyp> taskumatti 2018-06-10T01:00:40 < kakimir> jep 2018-06-10T01:00:49 < zyp> one of the words I learned last year 2018-06-10T01:01:11 < kakimir> "pocket Matt" 2018-06-10T01:01:39 < kakimir> = pocket flask 2018-06-10T01:02:25 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-10T01:02:27 < kakimir> matti kukkarossa 2018-06-10T01:02:56 < kakimir> = no money in wallet (or generally no money) 2018-06-10T01:03:07 < zyp> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4503/37347850696_2e60eea884_b.jpg <- also this 2018-06-10T01:03:18 < kakimir> Matthäei am Letzten 2018-06-10T01:03:36 < kakimir> and that is from chess 2018-06-10T01:03:57 < kakimir> from checkmate 2018-06-10T01:05:03 < kakimir> http://www.parkkinen.org/aasinsiltoja.html 2018-06-10T01:36:58 < karlp> my sudo got insanely slow 2018-06-10T01:38:54 < Steffanx> what did you do to it? 2018-06-10T01:39:04 < karlp> no idea. 2018-06-10T01:39:09 < karlp> keyboard wakeup is fucked too 2018-06-10T01:39:13 < karlp> I replaced the router 2018-06-10T01:39:20 < karlp> it's like it's some cached hostname checking bullshit or something 2018-06-10T01:39:27 < karlp> going to restart I think. 2018-06-10T02:00:05 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T02:02:18 < karlp> hrm, works now. weird 2018-06-10T02:02:52 < karlp> hrm, mouse isdead maybe. 2018-06-10T02:03:05 < karlp> just have to hit it harder 2018-06-10T02:03:41 -!- obarb [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T02:03:41 -!- obarb is now known as mrmeseeks 2018-06-10T02:03:45 -!- mrmeseeks [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-10T02:08:02 < kakimir> you failed changing the hostname 2018-06-10T02:08:19 < kakimir> there is multiple things you need to update that new hostname 2018-06-10T02:08:22 < kakimir> to 2018-06-10T02:08:33 < kakimir> if you don't stuff acts weird 2018-06-10T02:08:46 < Laurenceb_> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfQe60qWsAAjQz6.jpg:small 2018-06-10T02:08:51 < karlp> bah, something's firewalling tfptd on my machine 2018-06-10T02:08:51 < Laurenceb_> lelling 2018-06-10T02:09:05 < karlp> wiresharek shows my pc replying with icmp "host administratively prohibited" packets 2018-06-10T02:09:48 < karlp> fucking selinux again 2018-06-10T02:10:15 < zyp> hah 2018-06-10T02:17:19 < m4t> mawk: there are radios/mcus advertised as just 802.15.4, then all the zigbee (or thread, etc.) stuff is done in software. i've got one of these and am able to capture raw 802.15.4 with it: http://openlabs.co/OSHW/Raspberry-Pi-802.15.4-radio 2018-06-10T02:18:07 < mawk> you bought it somewhere or you made it yourself ? 2018-06-10T02:18:08 < m4t> i want to say anything that's interfaced with a uart is probably not going to offer access to that - like one of the xbee modules 2018-06-10T02:18:12 < m4t> nah i have that one 2018-06-10T02:18:18 < m4t> AT86RF233 2018-06-10T02:18:27 < karlp> xbee series one could do raw 802.15.4, no idea abotu the series 2 2018-06-10T02:18:30 < karlp> they're totally different. 2018-06-10T02:18:41 < m4t> oh 2018-06-10T02:18:47 < karlp> mrf24j40 modules do raw too, they are/were the cheapest. 2018-06-10T02:19:19 < karlp> uart vs spi is just a point of view, you can do all the same thigns :)I 2018-06-10T02:20:05 < mawk> I don't have stuff for soldering yet 2018-06-10T02:20:06 < mawk> I'm too poor 2018-06-10T02:20:35 < m4t> karlp: how do you do that with an xbee? 2018-06-10T02:22:11 < zyp> m4t, hmm, only $10 2018-06-10T02:22:56 < stvn> hmm the xbee 2018-06-10T02:23:17 < zyp> m4t, what's the current state of zigbee on linux? can I just plug that module into a rpi and have some decent kernel support? 2018-06-10T02:23:25 < m4t> no 2018-06-10T02:23:33 < stvn> :[ 2018-06-10T02:23:37 < bitmask> printer is finally back up and running 2018-06-10T02:23:41 < m4t> linux-wpan supports it but there aren't any zigbee stacks built against the linux-wpan stack 2018-06-10T02:23:41 < bitmask> pita 2018-06-10T02:24:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-11b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T02:24:02 < m4t> most of the zigbee stuff in linux is through a uart with another mcu basically offloading it and turning it into a proprietary serial protocol 2018-06-10T02:24:11 < zyp> aww 2018-06-10T02:24:12 < m4t> like the home automation dongles people use 2018-06-10T02:24:21 < m4t> yeah i know, i was disappointed 2018-06-10T02:24:28 < m4t> i could sniff my zigbee network but not interact lol 2018-06-10T02:24:42 < zyp> so, how much exists in linux-wpan? 2018-06-10T02:25:06 < zyp> by sniff, you mean it supports standard pcap interface, so you could just fire up wireshark? 2018-06-10T02:25:30 < m4t> yeah i did tcpdump on the wpan0 interface or whatever then piped that with nc to my workstation+wireshark 2018-06-10T02:25:42 < zyp> cool 2018-06-10T02:26:07 < m4t> i asked one of the main devs in #linux-wpan about zigbee and he said what i told you 2018-06-10T02:26:18 < zyp> would it be possible to open a raw socket or something on wpan0 to send stuff? 2018-06-10T02:26:26 < m4t> yes 2018-06-10T02:26:41 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-10T02:27:05 < zyp> tempted to buy a couple, idk what for, but I can get two for $35 shipped 2018-06-10T02:28:05 < zyp> the site you linked suggests linux can do 6lowpan with it 2018-06-10T02:28:15 < stvn> i wonder about the kurnul 2018-06-10T02:28:21 < zyp> oh, Thread is built on 6lowpan, interesting 2018-06-10T02:28:34 < m4t> yep 2018-06-10T02:28:57 < m4t> you can get cheap ti dongles too, e.g. aliexpress 2018-06-10T02:29:47 < zyp> familiar with Thread? 2018-06-10T02:29:56 < m4t> there is a framework https://github.com/riverloopsec/killerbee that i believe supports the usb cc2531 modules 2018-06-10T02:29:59 < m4t> no 2018-06-10T02:30:51 < m4t> i know that the google onhub devices had 802.15.4 radios/thread but nothing ever came of it 2018-06-10T02:31:26 < m4t> However, as of early 2018, the Bluetooth and 802.15.4 functionality have not been enabled.[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_OnHub 2018-06-10T02:31:28 < m4t> :( 2018-06-10T02:31:49 < zyp> now I'm curious what the scope of thread is, and how it would compare to something like MQTT over 6lowpan 2018-06-10T02:32:22 < m4t> https://www.silabs.com/products/wireless/learning-center/mesh-performance 2018-06-10T02:32:28 < m4t> well 2018-06-10T02:32:36 < m4t> that compares zigbee, ble, and thread 2018-06-10T02:32:48 < zyp> e.g. if it would be suitable to run MQTT over thread, or if the thread spec already goes far enough up that it wouldn't make sense to layer mqtt on top of it 2018-06-10T02:33:32 < m4t> ah yeah idk 2018-06-10T02:33:41 < Thorn__> has anyone encountered ANT/ANT+ in the wild btw? 2018-06-10T02:33:58 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2018-06-10T02:34:48 < zyp> not really, but I made an ANT device once 2018-06-10T02:35:12 < zyp> and tested it against a smartphone with ANT support 2018-06-10T02:35:37 < Thorn> I only recently learned that smartphones with ANT support actually exist lol 2018-06-10T02:35:46 < zyp> they still do? :p 2018-06-10T02:35:56 < Thorn> good question btw 2018-06-10T02:36:50 < zyp> I did this stuff in 2010/2011, for my bachelor's project in uni, smartphone in question was a sony xperia x8 2018-06-10T02:38:01 < zyp> i.e. it was before BLE really took off 2018-06-10T02:38:30 < zyp> IIRC we talked to nrf about the BLE option too, I believe they said that they wouldn't have chips ready in time, so we wen't with ANT instead 2018-06-10T02:41:36 < zyp> m4t, how's low level software support? e.g. what do you have to do to get the wpan0 interface? 2018-06-10T02:42:59 < zyp> okay, ordered two, guess I'll find out :p 2018-06-10T02:44:00 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-10T02:44:16 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1yAVOVJsg 2018-06-10T02:44:22 < Laurenceb_> the cringe is real 2018-06-10T02:45:07 < stvn> laurence can you help me install a free operating system 2018-06-10T02:45:44 < stvn> and later on write some elliot rodger fanfiction? 2018-06-10T02:50:39 < Laurenceb_> kek wut 2018-06-10T02:51:07 < Laurenceb_> found ur house https://imgur.com/Go5utDo 2018-06-10T02:51:48 < stvn> yeah, what of it? 2018-06-10T02:52:07 < Laurenceb_> it doesnt begin to make any sense 2018-06-10T02:52:24 < stvn> got a problem mate? 2018-06-10T02:52:26 < Laurenceb_> >weed and nazis, united states and confederacy 2018-06-10T02:52:32 < stvn> i'll fuckin' nip ya 2018-06-10T02:52:36 < stvn> lol 2018-06-10T02:52:41 < Laurenceb_> maybe its just based centrism 2018-06-10T02:52:49 < Laurenceb_> combine all the flags and u are ok 2018-06-10T02:53:09 < stvn> maybe 2018-06-10T02:53:14 < stvn> i dunno how the internet works ;) 2018-06-10T02:53:38 < stvn> they're all loons 2018-06-10T02:54:13 < stvn> too much radiation mate 2018-06-10T02:54:23 < Laurenceb_> tfw guy from that house is saner than any nasaspaceflight poster 2018-06-10T02:54:33 < Laurenceb_> bbl 2018-06-10T02:55:14 < stvn> seeya later 2018-06-10T02:55:32 < stvn> you may indeed find that to be the case 2018-06-10T03:04:05 < m4t> zyp: just load the proper driver/devicetree. there is a utility like 'iw' called 'iwpan' 2018-06-10T03:04:36 < con3> do p-channel depletion mode mosfets exist? Cause they don't seem to.. 2018-06-10T03:06:38 < zyp> m4t, nice 2018-06-10T03:09:09 < stvn> clean as a whistle - https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/panicked-000-call-couldnt-save-kids/news-story/a9fd03ce9eec71a4785bbc136b869706 2018-06-10T03:09:57 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-10T03:10:16 < karlp> m4t: what do you mean? just read the digi docs. you just put it in 802.15.4 mode instead of digi mode. 2018-06-10T03:10:19 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T03:10:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-11b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-10T03:10:39 < karlp> zyp: zigbee is still vendor paid members only, so nothing for linux 2018-06-10T03:12:08 < karlp> thread is just "not zigbee" on top of 802.15.4, with lots of 6lowpan. 2018-06-10T03:13:02 < karlp> Thorn: lots of ant(+) heart rate and pedal cadence shit in the road bike world 2018-06-10T03:13:37 < karlp> zyp: last I was reading it, thread (and 6lowpan) were much more suited to coap than mqtt, it fit their routing stuff better. 2018-06-10T03:13:41 < Thorn> karlp: why aren't they using ble? 2018-06-10T03:14:37 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7VQPnbcB/steffan_wtfmate.jpg 2018-06-10T03:14:45 < karlp> because they've been around longer than ble 2018-06-10T03:16:09 < Thorn> so only historical reasons 2018-06-10T03:16:14 < zyp> karlp, I see 2018-06-10T03:17:22 < karlp> (I've not been following any of it super closely though, I could have bad memories of things) 2018-06-10T03:18:00 < stvn> better get to work stvn 2018-06-10T03:18:30 < m4t> i don't see how to in https://www.digi.com/resources/documentation/digidocs/pdfs/90000982.pdf 2018-06-10T03:19:13 < m4t> "transparent mode"? 2018-06-10T03:24:05 < m4t> still seems abstracted from raw frames 2018-06-10T03:25:55 < mawk> do you use some micro libc in your projects ? 2018-06-10T03:34:06 < m4t> https://github.com/linux-wpan/linux-wpan/issues/1 they say it's hard mac 2018-06-10T03:34:39 < m4t> ah maybe that's just xbee 2+ though 2018-06-10T03:35:09 -!- Jak_o_Ombroj [~Jak@58.175.241.176] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T03:35:09 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-10T03:40:58 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-10T03:41:15 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T03:45:21 < m4t> hrm i think xbee's mac layer isn't accessible. i've found nothing to the contrary, e.g. https://www.digi.com/support/forum/54782/is-it-possible-to-change-mac-layer-of-xbee-pro-modules 2018-06-10T03:45:34 < m4t> BUT it looks like you can reflash the mcu on them, which is kinda cool 2018-06-10T03:45:40 -!- PaulFertser [~paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-10T03:50:36 < Laurenceb_> wew the boomer teens meme 2018-06-10T03:50:39 < Laurenceb_> this is epin 2018-06-10T03:51:44 < Cracki> wut 2018-06-10T03:52:53 < Laurenceb_> Basically the mene is a photo of an awkward teen that isn't old enough to have escaped his boomer Dad's shadow. Accompanying the photo is a naive "wise quote" that he heard from a boomer uncle. 2018-06-10T03:52:55 -!- PaulFertser [~paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T03:53:28 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/YwK8Wv2 2018-06-10T03:53:40 < Laurenceb_> taking shape at /tv/, raids incoming soon 2018-06-10T03:54:14 < Laurenceb_> Who cares what music you listen to? The most important thing is to be a good person, go to church, and work hard at your job. 2018-06-10T03:54:22 < Laurenceb_> text status: formed 2018-06-10T03:58:41 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/7IodJGA 2018-06-10T03:59:16 < Cracki> ah you're tracking [...] in real time 2018-06-10T03:59:38 < Laurenceb_> left to right: "wtf I cant even", "soyboyyy", "the virgin protestor" 2018-06-10T04:00:14 < Cracki> heh 2018-06-10T04:00:41 < Cracki> nicely exploitable pic. shop it into the isis flag 2018-06-10T04:00:47 < Cracki> or something about 9/11 2018-06-10T04:00:48 < Laurenceb_> he even has the virgin versus chad headphones 2018-06-10T04:00:49 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-10T04:02:12 < Cracki> only fathers deserve to wear a beard. soylords should shave, not just their legs. 2018-06-10T04:03:08 < Cracki> at uni we have this runt. he is physically maybe 14 years old, to be generous. 2018-06-10T04:03:40 < Cracki> mentally too. but he absolutely has to wear a full beard. it looks immensely incongruent. 2018-06-10T04:04:53 < Cracki> he hasn't grown for years, so I believe him when he says he's 21+ and has a driver's license... but hell, it's not a napoleon complex, it's a purse rat complex. 2018-06-10T04:08:46 < zyp> Cracki, gatekeeper of the beards 2018-06-10T04:09:22 < Cracki> I just don't want my people to look like goat herders 2018-06-10T04:22:26 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-10T04:23:57 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-10T04:31:27 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-10T04:42:33 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32099.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T04:46:34 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B0811FD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-10T04:56:46 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-10T05:23:14 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydzzlt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-10T05:26:18 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T05:34:09 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-10T05:34:09 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T05:34:11 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-10T05:39:55 < zyp> six hours into this fucking print I figured out how my code is broken and fucking up everything :D 2018-06-10T05:41:20 < zyp> (including why it takes over six hours) 2018-06-10T05:42:22 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/tJn8c.jpg 2018-06-10T05:59:23 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/ThhSH.jpg 2018-06-10T06:22:51 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T06:23:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-10T06:40:41 < stvn> yeah man idkwtf 2018-06-10T07:00:28 < mawk> I'm trying to use the libc from the ARM GNU toolchain 2018-06-10T07:00:57 < mawk> I implemented all the stubs from https://sourceware.org/newlib/libc.html#Stubs 2018-06-10T07:01:03 < mawk> in particular, the sbrk() stub 2018-06-10T07:01:42 < mawk> I just took the ._user_heap_stack section start from the linker script with the _end symbol, and added the FreeRTOS heap size 2018-06-10T07:01:50 < mawk> then use a simple increment at each call 2018-06-10T07:02:06 < mawk> and after that nothing seem to work 2018-06-10T07:02:19 < mawk> are there extra steps ? 2018-06-10T07:04:36 < mawk> after a single sprintf() stuff from the .bss section seem to have been overwritten with stupid values 2018-06-10T07:04:43 < mawk> but it shouldn't write there 2018-06-10T07:05:30 < R0b0t1> Why are you implementing these things 2018-06-10T07:05:55 < R0b0t1> Generating your own toolchain, sure - but newlib should work out of the box? What do you need to modify? 2018-06-10T07:05:58 < R0b0t1> Oh 2018-06-10T07:06:02 < R0b0t1> Sorry 2018-06-10T07:06:02 < mawk> newlib needs syscalls 2018-06-10T07:06:16 < mawk> namely write and sbrk for what I want 2018-06-10T07:06:20 < R0b0t1> Yeah I don't know what I originally read 2018-06-10T07:06:28 < R0b0t1> sbrk is adventurous 2018-06-10T07:06:35 < mawk> it should be simple 2018-06-10T07:06:38 < mawk> it's not like it's mmap 2018-06-10T07:06:38 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-10T07:07:09 < mawk> that's the sbrk: https://paste.serveur.io/IiIW7DFA.c 2018-06-10T07:08:14 < R0b0t1> Probably best to debug your target 2018-06-10T07:08:19 < mawk> yeah I'm doing it 2018-06-10T07:08:23 < R0b0t1> See what fails after- 2018-06-10T07:08:25 < mawk> but without debug symbols for the libc it's hard 2018-06-10T07:08:42 < mawk> I'll try some watchpoints to see what is overwriting my .bss values 2018-06-10T07:09:39 < mawk> or better recompile the toolchain with debug symbols 2018-06-10T07:10:19 < R0b0t1> Yes 2018-06-10T07:10:29 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T07:10:37 < R0b0t1> https://github.com/FreddieChopin/bleeding-edge-toolchain 2018-06-10T07:11:09 < R0b0t1> Maybe they're available from ARM, I don't know. Everyone here likes the prebuilt ones from ARM. 2018-06-10T07:17:48 < mawk> ok my sbrk symbols and the like aren't included in the final elf 2018-06-10T07:17:51 < mawk> for some obscure reason 2018-06-10T07:18:00 < mawk> I'm adding some magic to the ld command line to force including them 2018-06-10T07:22:29 < mawk> WWDG_IRQHandler () 2018-06-10T07:22:33 < mawk> what's that 2018-06-10T07:22:39 < mawk> using dprintf provoked that IRQ 2018-06-10T07:23:08 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 2018-06-10T07:25:57 < mawk> apparently it detects deadlock or something 2018-06-10T07:27:27 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-10T07:35:44 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T07:38:57 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-10T07:38:58 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-10T07:49:25 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 2018-06-10T07:52:30 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T07:53:35 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-10T07:54:04 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T08:11:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T08:16:22 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-10T08:21:27 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-10T08:23:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-10T08:55:37 -!- Jak_o_Ombroj [~Jak@58.175.241.176] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-10T08:57:28 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T09:16:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-10T10:10:31 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-10T10:12:05 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T10:18:08 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T10:40:08 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@mugi.iscute.moe] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2018-06-10T10:41:02 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@iscute.moe] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T10:44:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-10T10:51:45 -!- zapb_ [~zapb@2a01:4f8:c0c:3205::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-10T10:52:48 -!- zapb_ [~zapb@2a01:4f8:c0c:3205::2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T11:13:58 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4dbaf216.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T11:15:12 < Steffanx> mawk: usually it means you ended up in a default interrupt handler. Which happen to have the name wwdg_irqhandler for a good reason (which i dont remember) 2018-06-10T11:15:24 < Steffanx> In your case probably a hard fault. 2018-06-10T11:18:55 -!- mumptai [~calle@x4dbaf216.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2018-06-10T11:26:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-13e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T11:44:50 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-10T11:51:34 < zyp> WWDG is IRQ0 2018-06-10T11:52:23 < zyp> and when you have a bunch of symbols pointing to the same address, gdb picks the first symbol it finds when doing a reverse lookup, i.e. IRQ0 2018-06-10T12:03:41 < tpw_rules> is it at some really high address 2018-06-10T12:04:05 < tpw_rules> ime it picks a random handler name but will show it at 0xfffffffe 2018-06-10T12:07:00 < zyp> no, 0xfffffffe is processor lockup 2018-06-10T12:07:10 < tpw_rules> isn't that what a hardfault is 2018-06-10T12:07:28 < zyp> no, lockup is the level after hardfault, you end up there if the hardfault handler faults 2018-06-10T12:07:40 < tpw_rules> oh 2018-06-10T12:08:08 < zyp> e.g. when the last attempt of running code has failed and the cpu can't do more and gives up 2018-06-10T12:08:14 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T12:08:33 < tpw_rules> like an invalid instruction? 2018-06-10T12:13:02 < zyp> no 2018-06-10T12:13:57 < zyp> the processor has three levels of fault handling 2018-06-10T12:14:15 < zyp> an invalid instruction would first cause a usage fault 2018-06-10T12:15:01 < zyp> a usage fault is one kind of «configurable fault», which has fault handlers you can configure to enable or disable, they are all disabled by default 2018-06-10T12:15:42 < zyp> if you had something like an RTOS that could kill only the faulting thread, it'd use the usage fault handler to do that 2018-06-10T12:16:52 < zyp> if a fault doesn't get handled by a configurable fault handler, it gets promoted to a hardfault 2018-06-10T12:17:40 < zyp> the hardfault handler is always enabled, it's intended for stuff where you can't really recover by just killing a thread or the likes 2018-06-10T12:18:41 < zyp> so you might want to gather/store information, maybe clean up and do a safe shutdown, maybe trigger a reset, etc 2018-06-10T12:20:05 < zyp> and if the hardfault handler causes a new fault (of any kind), the cpu can't do anything more, so it locks up 2018-06-10T13:02:50 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T13:10:30 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8000d860098932480e3a7baa7.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T13:29:45 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T13:40:33 < dongs> apparently flickr was bought by smugmug 2018-06-10T13:40:37 < dongs> couple months go 2018-06-10T13:46:54 < zyp> yeah, they've been spamming me about that 2018-06-10T13:49:13 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-13e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T13:49:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-13e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-10T13:54:09 < dongs> https://twitter.com/jenniferdaniel/status/1004427564679458816 google doing all the important things 2018-06-10T13:59:05 < zyp> haha 2018-06-10T14:06:14 < Steffanx> Im going to make a sjw filter. 2018-06-10T14:06:35 < emeryth> wtf does it mean when cubemx says "makefile project generation have a problem" 2018-06-10T14:06:52 < dongs> java failed 2018-06-10T14:07:23 < emeryth> it was working fine until I added a custom label to a pin 2018-06-10T14:08:00 < Steffanx> Still wonder how many in here actually use timecube for code generatio 2018-06-10T14:09:04 < emeryth> ok, restarting cube helped 2018-06-10T14:09:10 < dongs> i did once 2018-06-10T14:09:18 < dongs> it made a pack-based keil project 2018-06-10T14:09:31 < dongs> with bullshit directory layout 2018-06-10T14:11:29 < zyp> Steffanx, one is too many 2018-06-10T14:20:28 < dongs> zyp 2018-06-10T14:20:34 < dongs> i have this filthy jap code from a customer 2018-06-10T14:20:45 < dongs> they copypasted a bunch of shit, sample code/opensores shit/emwin samples etc 2018-06-10T14:21:00 < dongs> since tehy have no idea whats going on, tehres millions of warnings etc 2018-06-10T14:21:04 < dongs> but shit eventualyl builds and links 2018-06-10T14:21:21 < dongs> but a lot of emwin stuff for example bitches about missing prototypes during compile (i.e. they didnt include header etc) 2018-06-10T14:21:36 < dongs> so functiosn that take a lot of params are implicitly defined as int foo(void) or whatever? i guess 2018-06-10T14:21:45 < dongs> could that cause issues at runtime due to wrong stack/etc shit? 2018-06-10T14:21:53 < dongs> or does compiler sorta figure that out during compile/link 2018-06-10T14:22:48 < dongs> the simplest example is ex. using strcpy() or something without including but it still compiles and links. 2018-06-10T14:22:57 < zyp> I figure it depends 2018-06-10T14:26:07 < dongs> anyway their problem is soon after attaching debug and running, debugger drops off 2018-06-10T14:26:36 < dongs> i thought they're killing the swd/whatever gpio pns but that doesnt seem to be the case 2018-06-10T14:27:46 < zyp> I don't see how that's related 2018-06-10T14:28:05 < dongs> which part, killing gpio? 2018-06-10T14:28:14 < dongs> or shitty non-declared functiosn 2018-06-10T14:28:47 < zyp> non-declared functions 2018-06-10T14:29:53 < zyp> I figure for non-declared functions the compiler can probably mostly get it right anyway, since most functions end up with the arguments being passed in a register each 2018-06-10T14:30:26 < zyp> the weird stuff happens when you have functions taking arguments not being passed in normal registers 2018-06-10T14:30:29 < zyp> e.g. floats 2018-06-10T14:30:38 < zyp> or variadic shit 2018-06-10T14:30:39 < zyp> or whatever 2018-06-10T14:30:44 < dongs> tehres a bunch of those as well 2018-06-10T14:30:48 < dongs> there's a lot of fp code in this 2018-06-10T14:31:06 < dongs> but that shit should just hardfault or something, why would it completely disconnect swd 2018-06-10T14:31:09 < zyp> on cortex-m3 floats are probably not different from ints 2018-06-10T14:31:12 < dongs> debug IP shouldnt crash right 2018-06-10T14:31:14 < dongs> its M4 2018-06-10T14:31:24 < zyp> except the part that you don't get implicit casting 2018-06-10T14:31:49 < zyp> say e.g. you have a function taking a float, and then you call foo(4) 2018-06-10T14:32:17 < dongs> ah right. and you have no declaration that says its foo(float bar) 2018-06-10T14:32:28 < zyp> if the caller knew it was taking a float, it'd pass 4.0f 2018-06-10T14:32:34 < dongs> does it end up passing garbage in that case>? 2018-06-10T14:32:35 < zyp> but since it doesn't it passes the integer 4 instead 2018-06-10T14:32:47 < dongs> since float(4) is different binary representation than int(4) right? 2018-06-10T14:32:51 < zyp> wyes 2018-06-10T14:37:04 < zyp> fixed a bug in my code, today's print came out a lot better than last night's: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/YyBw0.jpg 2018-06-10T14:37:28 < zyp> still stringing a ton all over the place, but that's more of a tuning problem 2018-06-10T14:38:19 < dongs> wtf 2018-06-10T14:38:23 < jadew> windy day? 2018-06-10T14:38:25 < dongs> whaT "code" would cause that 2018-06-10T14:38:37 < jadew> a retraction issue maybe? 2018-06-10T14:39:06 < dongs> are you writing your own 3d dicker firmware or somethign 2018-06-10T14:39:18 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-10T14:39:20 < jadew> yes, and multimaterial it seems 2018-06-10T14:39:24 < dongs> like from scratch? 2018-06-10T14:39:30 < zyp> yes 2018-06-10T14:39:35 < dongs> including gay-code parsing? 2018-06-10T14:39:37 < dongs> wtf why 2018-06-10T14:39:48 < dongs> is it in C++ 2018-06-10T14:39:51 < dongs> 14 2018-06-10T14:40:25 < BrainDamage> that boat's like "gotta go fast" 2018-06-10T14:40:31 < zyp> last night I missed part of the offset handling between the heads, so sometimes the offset got fucked up 2018-06-10T14:40:52 < dongs> zyp is actually working on object teleportation 2018-06-10T14:40:55 < dongs> and these are failed results 2018-06-10T14:41:01 < dongs> of teleporting rubber ducky 2018-06-10T14:42:12 < zyp> well, the mcu stuff is C++, of course, but it's pretty thin/dumb 2018-06-10T14:42:36 < zyp> I precalc everything on host before feeding it to the mcu, so most of the code is python 2018-06-10T14:43:10 < dongs> the evils of 21st century combined 2018-06-10T14:43:13 < dongs> python and 3d dicking 2018-06-10T14:43:20 < zyp> the goal is to be able to divide it between multiple boards, e.g. have one board on the head and one board in the base 2018-06-10T14:43:35 < zyp> precalc everything on host, then send some axes to head and some axes to base 2018-06-10T14:43:49 < dongs> isnt that making it much more complex to sync stuff 2018-06-10T14:44:05 < zyp> that way, head board only needs power and data, no need to run a ton of different signals and shit all over the place 2018-06-10T14:44:28 < zyp> I don't think so 2018-06-10T14:44:59 < dongs> how do you sync htem then 2018-06-10T14:45:08 < dongs> usb frame or something? 2018-06-10T14:45:13 < zyp> currently I'm only running one board (steval-3dp001v1), but the code I have should extend to more fairly easy 2018-06-10T14:45:22 < zyp> yeah, that's the plan 2018-06-10T14:46:14 < zyp> currently the protocol has transfer_block and execute_block commands, plan is to extend execute_block to take a start_time, which is a usb frame number 2018-06-10T14:46:23 < zyp> then host just tells all boards to start at same frame number 2018-06-10T14:47:07 < dongs> what if they're too busy and usb frame interrupt gets lost do you get a virtual lose step? 2018-06-10T14:48:31 < zyp> the motion code is currently running in a 100kHz timer interrupt, so I'm planning on just polling the last frame number register when waiting for start 2018-06-10T14:49:54 < jpa-> do blocks always end at 0 velocity? or otherwise, if the host gets busy and doesn't send next blocks, will you lose steps due to sudden deceleration? 2018-06-10T14:49:58 < zyp> yes 2018-06-10T14:50:22 < srk> planning <3 2018-06-10T14:51:18 < srk> zyp: lol, so you're doing distributed control with USB? :D 2018-06-10T14:51:38 < srk> reminds me of something :D 2018-06-10T14:51:51 < dongs> when 3Dbuttcoin ICO 2018-06-10T14:52:01 < dongs> 3d printing on the blockchain 2018-06-10T14:52:23 < zyp> the gcode handler queues G1 commands to build blocks, queue is flushed either when blocks would get too large to fit in mcu buffer, it gets Z motion or it gets any other command than a G1 2018-06-10T14:52:24 < srk> haha, that boat is truly epic 2018-06-10T14:53:20 < zyp> in the future I might add streaming of blocks that are too large to fit buffer 2018-06-10T14:53:23 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-10T14:53:39 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T14:53:47 < zyp> but already now it can fit whole layers in a block as long as they are not too complex 2018-06-10T14:54:11 < zyp> srk, well, it's not distributed yet, but that's the end goal, yes 2018-06-10T14:54:48 < srk> zyp: I would be concerned with USB timing/reliability/scaling as usual 2018-06-10T14:55:26 < zyp> the whole point of the USB SOF mechanism is to be able to sync stuff 2018-06-10T14:55:37 < srk> I'm using USB<->UART<->CAN now so .. :D 2018-06-10T14:55:49 < srk> timing is probably not that great 2018-06-10T14:56:21 < srk> gonna measure that soon, then try with some native CAN (like rpi/bbb/odroid) 2018-06-10T14:56:33 < srk> with CANOpen you have SYNC packets 2018-06-10T14:56:38 < dongs> hypeberry has native CAN? 2018-06-10T14:56:43 < srk> ah, no 2018-06-10T14:56:51 < srk> fail 2018-06-10T14:56:54 < dongs> i'd be super surprised if it did 2018-06-10T14:56:58 < srk> we have a shield for it 2018-06-10T14:57:01 < srk> SPI->CAN 2018-06-10T14:57:25 < srk> bbb or odroid 2018-06-10T14:57:39 < srk> or anything decent really .. :D 2018-06-10T14:57:48 < srk> imx6/7/8 2018-06-10T14:58:00 < zyp> I'm not sure what USB spec says, but I assume SOF timing is more accurate than the 10us cycle time my code is running with 2018-06-10T14:58:32 < srk> should be fine then I guess :) 2018-06-10T14:58:33 < zyp> and as long as it can hit the right cycle, anyting better is moot 2018-06-10T14:59:03 < zyp> clock drift between mcus would be a much larger source of timing error, for long blocks 2018-06-10T14:59:16 < srk> CANOpen got you covered as well ;) 2018-06-10T14:59:49 < zyp> typical crystals are 30ppm or so, that's 30us per second 2018-06-10T15:05:46 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-10T15:15:58 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T15:17:45 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-10T15:18:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T15:19:09 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T15:27:38 -!- sterna1 is now known as sterna 2018-06-10T15:41:26 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/Clj8q9C 2018-06-10T15:41:31 < Laurenceb_> Geert troll face :P 2018-06-10T15:42:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-10T15:44:53 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T15:46:52 < karlp> 10 ppm crystals only cost like 3% more though 2018-06-10T15:54:44 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/9HdIDf5 2018-06-10T15:55:26 < Laurenceb_> >4pm 2018-06-10T15:55:28 < Laurenceb_> kekking 2018-06-10T16:01:15 < dongs> definitely you 2018-06-10T16:08:10 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-10T16:08:16 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T16:28:20 < zyp> karlp, doesn't matter, still same order of magnitude 2018-06-10T16:31:36 < englishman> http://www.e-zencar.net/customization/ 2018-06-10T16:32:05 < englishman> zip, these guys do custom cables and stuff, coiled cable seems handy, super cheap too 2018-06-10T16:33:09 < englishman> i think what i'll do is convert the garage to 240v20a using existing copper 2018-06-10T16:33:14 < englishman> so i can at least charge at 3.3kW 2018-06-10T16:33:30 < englishman> then in a year or two when those buildings get knocked down run real stuff 2018-06-10T16:33:32 < zyp> sounds reasonable 2018-06-10T16:33:44 < englishman> will just have to source some 240v light bulbs 2018-06-10T16:34:17 < zyp> how cheap is super cheap, btw? 2018-06-10T16:34:45 < zyp> I'm not convinced coiled cable is useful 2018-06-10T16:34:47 < englishman> they are selling complete 240v16a chargers with cable for $150 usd shipped according to some leaf forum. havent been in touch yet 2018-06-10T16:34:59 < zyp> okay, that's cheap 2018-06-10T16:35:21 < zyp> mode 2 cables usually start at 4k NOK or so for the cheapest 2018-06-10T16:35:25 < zyp> here 2018-06-10T16:35:35 < englishman> the cables are 250-350cad on amazon 2018-06-10T16:36:21 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydzzlt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T16:36:29 < kakimir> hello afternoon 2018-06-10T16:37:28 < zyp> I'm not convinced coiled cables are useful btw 2018-06-10T16:38:50 < kakimir> coiled 2018-06-10T16:40:35 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T16:42:07 < mawk> what do I need to do do use the libc_nano.a from the ARM GCC toolchain ? 2018-06-10T16:43:30 < dongs> step1 is not using gcc or libc 2018-06-10T16:43:34 < mawk> lol 2018-06-10T16:43:46 < mawk> I made all the required stubs, especially sbrk() 2018-06-10T16:43:55 < dongs> lol 2018-06-10T16:43:58 < dongs> so fucking glad I use keil 2018-06-10T16:44:03 < dongs> have NEVER had to do any "sbrk" stubs 2018-06-10T16:44:04 < mawk> I'm poor 2018-06-10T16:44:04 < dongs> shit just works 2018-06-10T16:44:12 < dongs> if you're on F0, keil is free 2018-06-10T16:44:14 < dongs> legit free, no limits 2018-06-10T16:44:19 < Thorn> --specs=nano.specs 2018-06-10T16:44:25 < mawk> yeah I already done that Thorn 2018-06-10T16:44:32 < mawk> the makefile part should be good 2018-06-10T16:44:32 < dongs> http://www2.keil.com/stmicroelectronics-stm32/mdk 2018-06-10T16:44:37 < mawk> I have a L152RE 2018-06-10T16:44:56 < zyp> mawk, you could do -lnosys 2018-06-10T16:45:08 < zyp> it'll provide sbrk and shit for you 2018-06-10T16:45:15 < mawk> ah 2018-06-10T16:45:20 < mawk> I did that too 2018-06-10T16:45:24 < mawk> so I need to remove it ? 2018-06-10T16:45:30 < mawk> how does it know where my heap starts 2018-06-10T16:45:32 < mawk> it doesn't 2018-06-10T16:45:39 < mawk> freeRTOS have reserved space at the start of the free space 2018-06-10T16:45:42 < zyp> probably needs a symbol from the linker script 2018-06-10T16:45:47 < mawk> yeah, the symbol is _end 2018-06-10T16:45:57 < mawk> but nosys.a doesn't know that there is an extra 4096 bytes for FreeRTOS after _end 2018-06-10T16:47:02 < dongs> fuck 2018-06-10T16:47:03 < zyp> either change _end to be after the freertos reserved area then or provide your own sbrk 2018-06-10T16:47:11 < dongs> botwu started posting retarded vids again 2018-06-10T16:47:27 < mawk> but freertos is also using _end 2018-06-10T16:47:29 < mawk> probably 2018-06-10T16:47:35 < mawk> I guess I could modify it 2018-06-10T16:47:39 < mawk> but it would be better to modify nosys 2018-06-10T16:47:54 < zyp> wat 2018-06-10T16:47:59 < kakimir> dongs, what 2018-06-10T16:48:01 < kakimir> free 2018-06-10T16:48:09 < kakimir> howe 2018-06-10T16:48:11 < dongs> kakimir: free as in free, yes 2018-06-10T16:48:13 < dongs> that link 2018-06-10T16:48:22 < mawk> modifying _end then modifying FreeRTOS looks dirtier than duplicating what libnosys.a is doing 2018-06-10T16:48:30 < kakimir> where is my lpc edition? 2018-06-10T16:48:45 < zyp> idk 2018-06-10T16:48:57 < zyp> the freertos glue stuff is pretty separate from the rest of freertos 2018-06-10T16:49:43 < zyp> by the way, do you really need both the freertos heap and the libc heap? 2018-06-10T16:50:13 < kakimir> I don't really need keil 2018-06-10T16:50:20 < karlp> do you have a matching linker script and startup code? 2018-06-10T16:50:22 < kakimir> mcuexpresso is quite alright 2018-06-10T16:50:31 < karlp> did you provide nano specs to _both_ compiler and linker? 2018-06-10T16:50:45 < karlp> I've never provided sbrk, and it works just fine. 2018-06-10T16:50:55 < karlp> with and without freertos 2018-06-10T16:51:10 < zyp> what works? malloc()? 2018-06-10T16:51:43 < zyp> I've never provided sbrk or used nosys and I don't have a problem either 2018-06-10T16:51:47 < zyp> but I never call malloc either 2018-06-10T16:52:43 < mawk> I don't need the freertos heap 2018-06-10T16:52:46 < mawk> but it's used internally 2018-06-10T16:52:49 < mawk> for the timers, threads, stuff 2018-06-10T16:53:04 < mawk> karlp: I just used the makefile from cube MX 2018-06-10T16:53:10 < mawk> so I can only assume that it's working perfectly 2018-06-10T16:53:22 < zyp> mawk, but you need the libc heap? 2018-06-10T16:53:46 < zyp> why can't you just make all allocations from the freertos heap since you need that one already? 2018-06-10T16:54:02 < zyp> having two heaps sounds wasteful 2018-06-10T16:55:44 < Thorn> iirc freertos also has optional static allocation mode 2018-06-10T16:56:07 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-10T16:56:21 < zyp> I've been meaning to use that for workstuff, just been too lazy to 2018-06-10T16:56:33 < zyp> planning to refactor that some time 2018-06-10T16:56:49 < mawk> zyp: printf needs the libc heap 2018-06-10T16:56:56 < mawk> yeah it's wasteful 2018-06-10T16:56:58 < veverak> Thorn: it has and cubemx allows you to switch that on 2018-06-10T16:57:01 < veverak> (what I was doing) 2018-06-10T16:57:32 < Thorn> amazon "free"rtos 2018-06-10T16:58:04 < karlp> mawk: hah 2018-06-10T16:58:18 < karlp> the makefiles from cubemx don't even compile without hand editing afterwards, I'm surprised they work at all. 2018-06-10T16:58:25 < mawk> yeah I had to modify it 2018-06-10T16:58:35 < mawk> source files specified multiple times 2018-06-10T16:58:45 < karlp> zyp: well, malloc is called by pritnf allegedly, 2018-06-10T16:58:48 < mawk> I even made a script to do that automatically after each code regeneration 2018-06-10T16:58:50 < Thorn> my printf doesn't need any heap 2018-06-10T16:59:03 < mawk> I guess I could steal the printk from linux kernel yeah 2018-06-10T16:59:05 < mawk> it doesn't need a heap 2018-06-10T16:59:07 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-10T16:59:23 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T16:59:29 < karlp> or work out what else you're fucking up instead of getting distracted on printf implementations 2018-06-10T17:00:34 < zyp> I think I've been using sprintf() for stuff 2018-06-10T17:01:06 < mawk> karlp: I can't code if the environment isn't cozy 2018-06-10T17:01:15 < karlp> mawk: so, what's the actual problem? 2018-06-10T17:01:29 < mawk> making printf work 2018-06-10T17:01:31 < karlp> all I've seen skimming the logs is some wild notions about "how do I hack nosys.lib to change stack alignment" 2018-06-10T17:01:38 < karlp> doe sit work without freertos? 2018-06-10T17:01:48 < karlp> ie, do you have a sane starting point? 2018-06-10T17:02:00 < mawk> yeah, without libc calls it works 2018-06-10T17:02:05 < karlp> that's not what I said. 2018-06-10T17:02:16 < mawk> it's still a sane starting point 2018-06-10T17:02:27 < karlp> ok, have fun then. 2018-06-10T17:02:39 < zyp> yeah, the oled/mcufont stuff I were fucking around with a year and a half ago is using snprintf() to format text for the display 2018-06-10T17:02:47 < zyp> pretty sure that stuff is still not using a heap 2018-06-10T17:03:04 < mawk> yeah sprintf works 2018-06-10T17:03:52 < zyp> ah, disregard, it does 2018-06-10T17:03:52 < mawk> freertos heap is [_end; _end + 4096] 2018-06-10T17:04:09 < zyp> I wrote my own sbrk 2018-06-10T17:04:18 < mawk> yeah me too 2018-06-10T17:04:25 < mawk> my sbrk stub for the libc does [_end + 4096; _estack - _Min_Stack_Size] 2018-06-10T17:04:35 < mawk> and checks for collision with the actual stack pointetr 2018-06-10T17:04:42 < mawk> just the most basic implementation of sbrk 2018-06-10T17:04:50 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/cAy6c 2018-06-10T17:05:03 < zyp> checking for collision is not basic, that's pretty optional 2018-06-10T17:05:16 < zyp> :p 2018-06-10T17:06:18 < mawk> hmm 2018-06-10T17:06:21 < mawk> I didn't put an underscore 2018-06-10T17:06:27 < mawk> https://paste.serveur.io/TmMAPduD.c 2018-06-10T17:07:13 < mawk> configTOTAL_HEAP_SIZE is the heap size of FreeRTOS 2018-06-10T17:15:35 < dongs> non-troll question why I dont need to dick with any of that shit in keil? 2018-06-10T17:16:42 < mawk> well it's not very hard to preconfigure that 2018-06-10T17:16:54 < mawk> you need a few syscall stubs for the libc and that's all 2018-06-10T17:17:12 < dongs> yes but i dont need any of htat for keil 2018-06-10T17:18:42 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-10T17:18:43 < zyp> you don't need any of that if you just link libnosys either, the point is to give you flexibility to customize stuff if you need to 2018-06-10T17:18:55 < mawk> yeah indeed 2018-06-10T17:18:57 < dongs> but the problme is, it confuses normal people 2018-06-10T17:19:01 < mawk> so my fix is just to not link with libnosys 2018-06-10T17:19:02 < dongs> who have no idea what the fuck a syscall or libco r etc is 2018-06-10T17:19:10 < mawk> I just looked into the source, there are just the stubs in it 2018-06-10T17:19:16 < mawk> which I already provide 2018-06-10T17:19:23 < dongs> why not have a sane default 2018-06-10T17:19:26 < dongs> and allow nerds to customize shit 2018-06-10T17:19:31 < mawk> the default is sane 2018-06-10T17:19:33 < zyp> libnosys is that default 2018-06-10T17:19:34 < mawk> if you don't have freertos 2018-06-10T17:19:41 < mawk> in dynamic allocation mode, that is 2018-06-10T17:19:54 < mawk> otherwise the heaps overlap 2018-06-10T17:20:07 < dongs> waht heaps 2018-06-10T17:20:10 < dongs> why would there be more than one 2018-06-10T17:20:14 < mawk> freeRTOS heap and libc heap 2018-06-10T17:20:16 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-10T17:20:24 < mawk> I guess I could modify malloc to point to the freeRTOS malloc 2018-06-10T17:20:28 < dongs> sounds like a solution looking for a problem 2018-06-10T17:20:34 < dongs> well hold the fuck up here 2018-06-10T17:20:42 < dongs> why would you be using non-freertos malloc 2018-06-10T17:20:45 < dongs> if your project is freertos? 2018-06-10T17:20:52 < dongs> generally you pick one allocator and stick with it 2018-06-10T17:21:02 < mawk> because I didn't write all these libc functions 2018-06-10T17:21:06 < mawk> and they all use their internal dlmalloc 2018-06-10T17:21:12 < dongs> oh snap. 2018-06-10T17:21:16 < dongs> good fucking thing keil takes care of tha tshit. 2018-06-10T17:21:18 < mawk> lol 2018-06-10T17:21:23 < dongs> nothing in their microlib uses heap 2018-06-10T17:21:25 < dongs> at all 2018-06-10T17:21:36 < dongs> you can set global heap to zero and everything wroks 2018-06-10T17:21:38 < zyp> probably easier to just have freertos call malloc() for doing allocations 2018-06-10T17:21:40 < dongs> until you try using malloc() etc 2018-06-10T17:21:50 < mawk> why not the reverse zyp ? 2018-06-10T17:21:55 < dongs> beacuse dumb 2018-06-10T17:22:08 < mawk> freertos is the core thing, libc is the extra 2018-06-10T17:22:33 < zyp> because freertos heaps are pluggable, easy to override 2018-06-10T17:22:47 < zyp> I said easier, which doesn't necessarily imply better 2018-06-10T17:22:48 < mawk> I see 2018-06-10T17:23:11 < mawk> I'd need to check which one is the most efficient then 2018-06-10T17:23:11 < Steffanx> isnt there even a mallocwhatever.c that just calles malloc? 2018-06-10T17:23:22 < Steffanx> heap[1-5].c might be 3. 2018-06-10T17:23:28 < mawk> 4 by default 2018-06-10T17:23:32 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-10T17:23:45 < zyp> «heap_3 - simply wraps the standard malloc() and free() for thread safety» 2018-06-10T17:24:06 < zyp> so you could just do that, problem solved 2018-06-10T17:25:12 < mawk> I don't think they're talking about the libc malloc/free 2018-06-10T17:25:19 < mawk> freertos has no knowledge of that 2018-06-10T17:25:24 < mawk> but yeah it's readily modifiable 2018-06-10T17:25:27 < karlp> do you know how to read? 2018-06-10T17:25:27 < zyp> of course they do 2018-06-10T17:25:36 < zyp> «This implements a simple wrapper for the standard C library malloc() and free() functions that will, in most cases, be supplied with your chosen compiler.» 2018-06-10T17:26:13 < mawk> ah yeah indeed 2018-06-10T17:26:14 < mawk> "The schemes defined by heap_1.c, heap_2.c, heap_4.c and heap_5.c allocate memory from a statically allocated array, known as the FreeRTOS heap." 2018-06-10T17:26:20 < mawk> I missed that heap_3 was missing from that list 2018-06-10T17:26:43 < dongs> if thats the case, there's not ever gonna be "collision" of those heaps 2018-06-10T17:26:54 < dongs> there's just gonna be a single static block of memory thats preallocated 2018-06-10T17:26:58 < dongs> that freertos internally fucks with 2018-06-10T17:27:09 < dongs> and (hopefully) has controls to not overflow 2018-06-10T17:27:28 < dongs> but yeah that fucking sucks that libc internally uses heap without giving you a choice 2018-06-10T17:27:44 < dongs> i guess thats the price you pay for opening the sores 2018-06-10T17:27:54 < zyp> you can choose to not call functions that uses the heap 2018-06-10T17:28:01 < dongs> yeah, you mean like printf? 2018-06-10T17:28:05 < zyp> yep .p 2018-06-10T17:28:11 < dongs> i don't have to, in keil 2018-06-10T17:28:27 < dongs> i could use printf, even with %f support 2018-06-10T17:28:33 < dongs> and its still less code linked than libc printf 2018-06-10T17:28:35 < dongs> with integer-only 2018-06-10T17:29:47 < Steffanx> how does keil give you the choice? 2018-06-10T17:29:53 < dongs> choice of what 2018-06-10T17:29:54 < Steffanx> is secretly implements sbrk stuff? 2018-06-10T17:30:01 < Steffanx> the heap stuff 2018-06-10T17:30:08 < Steffanx> but yeah that fucking sucks that libc internally uses heap without giving you a choice 2018-06-10T17:30:11 < Steffanx> what does keil do? 2018-06-10T17:30:18 < dongs> keil doesnt use heap at all 2018-06-10T17:30:28 < dongs> like i said, you can zero it and use any of libc functions. 2018-06-10T17:30:32 < dongs> and they all work 2018-06-10T17:30:42 < Steffanx> what does it use then? Stack? 2018-06-10T17:30:50 < zyp> presumably 2018-06-10T17:30:51 < Steffanx> predefined buffer? 2018-06-10T17:31:07 < mawk> predefined buffer I guess 2018-06-10T17:31:08 < zyp> there's not really any reason printf should need dynamic memory 2018-06-10T17:31:11 < mawk> like linux's printk 2018-06-10T17:31:23 < mawk> but then it's limited in size, of coursed 2018-06-10T17:31:24 < mawk> -d 2018-06-10T17:32:33 < Steffanx> http://www.keil.com/forum/5820/ dongs is Reinhard Keil confirmed. 2018-06-10T17:33:49 < dongs> thats a post from 2005, i'm 99% certain i have projcts wiht scanf() and 0 heap and they work 2018-06-10T17:34:16 < dongs> Yes, this is one of the problems with GNU. The run-time library is very in-efficient and uses all kind of routines. 2018-06-10T17:34:19 < dongs> You should consider to move to the Keil CARM Compiler which has a run-time library that is designed for embedded systems. 2018-06-10T17:34:23 < dongs> haha 2018-06-10T17:34:25 < dongs> good1` 2018-06-10T17:50:19 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-10T18:03:10 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-10T18:03:53 < mawk> apparently you need to do more than just merge the stacks 2018-06-10T18:03:56 < mawk> there is a reentrancy issue 2018-06-10T18:04:22 < mawk> that's not worth of my time 2018-06-10T18:04:25 < mawk> let's just dump printf 2018-06-10T18:04:39 < mawk> merge the heaps* 2018-06-10T18:04:57 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T18:04:59 < mawk> for reference, that guy did the work: http://www.nadler.com/embedded/newlibAndFreeRTOS.html 2018-06-10T18:06:19 < dongs> that stuff. 2018-06-10T18:06:19 < dongs> printf family uses _malloc_r(), and %f format code (16 bytes for trapped first call) uses malloc(). Initial printf (using float %f) allocates: 2018-06-10T18:06:22 < dongs> - 428 bytes using the global context _reent impure_data. The global context is used before task switching sets a task-specific context, and also for certain newlib buffers used globally (TBD: why? how is this safe?). 2018-06-10T18:06:27 < dongs> - (1542-428)=1114 bytes using the thread-specific _reent context. 2018-06-10T18:06:29 < dongs> is that for fucking real? 2018-06-10T18:06:31 < dongs> or is that in standard libc 2018-06-10T18:06:34 < dongs> in embedded libc? 2018-06-10T18:07:24 < mawk> it's in embedded libc 2018-06-10T18:07:27 < mawk> newlib_nano 2018-06-10T18:07:34 < mawk> or maybe the main newlib, it's larger 2018-06-10T18:07:38 < dongs> GNU folks should just close up shop 2018-06-10T18:07:42 < dongs> thats ridiculous 2018-06-10T18:07:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T18:07:46 < mawk> that's GNU ? 2018-06-10T18:07:51 < dongs> isn't it? 2018-06-10T18:07:57 < dongs> GNU/libc 2018-06-10T18:08:09 < mawk> that newlib thing was developed by redhat iirc 2018-06-10T18:08:19 < mawk> it's not the glibc 2018-06-10T18:08:38 < mawk> glibc would be too monstruously huge for embedded 2018-06-10T18:09:41 < Cracki> redhat, that explains things 2018-06-10T18:10:45 < mawk> yeah it's currently maintained by redhat 2018-06-10T18:10:57 < mawk> https://sourceware.org/newlib/ 2018-06-10T18:11:37 < Cracki> I wonder if poettering has had his hands on that 2018-06-10T18:11:40 < mawk> lol 2018-06-10T18:13:33 < dongs> who the fuck still uses mailing lists lol 2018-06-10T18:13:37 < dongs> and that site, wtf 2018-06-10T18:13:42 < dongs> probably last updated in 2001 2018-06-10T18:13:53 < veverak> awat 2018-06-10T18:14:34 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8000d860098932480e3a7baa7.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-10T18:20:02 < mawk> I used snprintf 2018-06-10T18:20:07 < mawk> doesn't use malloc apparently 2018-06-10T18:20:25 < mawk> then everything's nice 2018-06-10T18:50:53 < jadew> are there any movies on netflix with full frontal nudity? 2018-06-10T18:50:58 < jadew> (female) 2018-06-10T18:54:09 < jadew> thought so... it's fucking useless 2018-06-10T18:54:46 < BrainDamage> it's american, puritanism is rooted deeply in their culture 2018-06-10T19:02:42 < dongs> For example, Tokyo's Bunkyo ward is only allowing AirBnB rentals on weekends, and Shibuya ward will permit AirBnB rentals only during a small handful of school holidays "so children will not meet foreigners on their way to class." 2018-06-10T19:02:46 < dongs> nice 2018-06-10T19:02:47 < dongs> gaijins = paedos 2018-06-10T19:02:48 < dongs> confirmed 2018-06-10T19:05:59 -!- kakimir [~kikkel@dvpyyyyyyyyyyyyydzzlt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-10T19:11:34 < Cracki> japan is a great country 2018-06-10T19:13:23 < Cracki> meanwhile in bongland... 2018-06-10T19:20:30 < tpw_rules> pädo 2018-06-10T19:21:00 < Cracki> "grooming" 2018-06-10T19:21:24 < Cracki> arresting the child that's getting raped instead of the perp 2018-06-10T19:41:57 < zyp> jadew, there's not? 2018-06-10T19:44:12 < Steffanx> i wonder why jadew wonders. 2018-06-10T19:44:20 < Steffanx> he doesnt want his kid(s) to see? 2018-06-10T19:44:39 < zyp> if that's the concern, there's kids mode on netflix 2018-06-10T19:45:31 < Steffanx> never seen that 2018-06-10T19:46:14 < Cracki> who even pays for netflix? it has a puny assortment 2018-06-10T19:46:22 < zyp> I do 2018-06-10T19:46:49 < Steffanx> me too 2018-06-10T19:47:04 < Cracki> # 2018-06-10T19:47:25 < Steffanx> Fuck twatter. 2018-06-10T19:47:39 < Cracki> no, that symbol is called a "pound" 2018-06-10T19:47:47 < Cracki> so you need to read it as "pound me too" 2018-06-10T19:48:28 < Steffanx> wut? 2018-06-10T19:49:03 < Steffanx> oh, brits. Nuff said. 2018-06-10T19:49:14 < Steffanx> oh, not just brits 2018-06-10T19:53:13 < Steffanx> Ty Cracki. Now i cannot unthink that. 2018-06-10T19:53:19 < Cracki> ;) 2018-06-10T19:53:37 < Cracki> infectious thoughts 2018-06-10T19:54:14 < Cracki> >our purpose was to document the event 2018-06-10T19:57:33 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T20:11:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-10T20:16:32 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T20:23:28 < jadew> zyp, don't know, I don't think I've seen one yet 2018-06-10T20:25:27 < jadew> Steffanx, any movie can benefit from a little nudity 2018-06-10T20:27:03 < jadew> especially the crappy ones on netflix 2018-06-10T20:28:03 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8000d8600b055cb3b4241c111.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T20:40:38 < Steffanx> Lol no 2018-06-10T20:41:43 < jadew> even lord of the rings would have benefited 2018-06-10T20:42:28 < zyp> could explain why wolf of the wall street isn't on netflix 2018-06-10T20:42:38 < BrainDamage> I'm sure fanfics got you covered there 2018-06-10T20:42:38 < zyp> I watched that the other day, had to pirate it 2018-06-10T20:42:50 < Steffanx> It is here, zyp 2018-06-10T20:42:56 < zyp> is it? 2018-06-10T20:42:57 < zyp> not here 2018-06-10T20:43:01 < Steffanx> Yessir 2018-06-10T20:43:04 < zyp> cool 2018-06-10T20:43:09 < jadew> I don't have it 2018-06-10T20:43:13 < jadew> but I remember seeing it too 2018-06-10T20:43:22 < zyp> I can confirm it has tons of full frontal nudity 2018-06-10T20:43:25 < BrainDamage> you could probably get even nazgul on gollum action if you want 2018-06-10T20:43:27 < jadew> didn't watch it, just saw the title 2018-06-10T20:43:44 < jadew> BrainDamage, eh, I was thinking more about those elfs 2018-06-10T20:44:01 < Steffanx> I bet you can skip the "probably" BrainDamage 2018-06-10T20:44:05 < Steffanx> Because you know 2018-06-10T20:44:13 < jadew> haha 2018-06-10T20:44:14 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-10T20:44:17 < BrainDamage> Nope, that doesn't interest me 2018-06-10T20:44:44 < Steffanx> I know lots of stuff that doesnt interest me 2018-06-10T20:45:09 < zyp> haha 2018-06-10T20:45:12 < BrainDamage> Okay, doesn't interest me nor I have met it so far 2018-06-10T20:45:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-10T20:45:23 < BrainDamage> specific enough? 2018-06-10T20:45:27 < jadew> well, I just searched for it 2018-06-10T20:45:31 < jadew> couldn't find any 2018-06-10T20:45:43 < zyp> how do you search for it? 2018-06-10T20:45:43 < Steffanx> Worst of it all. I am an expert in remembering stuff that doesnt interest me 2018-06-10T20:45:52 < Steffanx> While i forget the things i want to remember 2018-06-10T20:45:58 < zyp> do you expect them to have a category? «movies with full frontal nudity»? 2018-06-10T20:45:58 < jadew> zyp, I googled nazgul gollum porn 2018-06-10T20:46:01 < zyp> oh 2018-06-10T20:46:07 < zyp> I missed the topic change 2018-06-10T20:46:12 < jadew> ah hehe 2018-06-10T20:48:33 < Steffanx> Acceptable, BrainDamage 2018-06-10T20:51:00 < jadew> zyp, the wolf of wall street has very bad reviews on IMDB 2018-06-10T20:51:11 < jadew> the rating is good, but you can't trust that anymore 2018-06-10T20:51:23 < BrainDamage> metascore is rather reliable 2018-06-10T20:51:45 < BrainDamage> or rotten tomatoes 2018-06-10T20:52:24 < jadew> they all seem to agree 2018-06-10T20:52:25 < Steffanx> rotten tomatoes reliable? 2018-06-10T20:52:33 < jadew> (on the score) 2018-06-10T20:52:47 < zyp> jadew, yeah? are you asking me what I thought of it? 2018-06-10T20:53:09 < jadew> zyp, sorry, I'm a bit tired, forgot you said you saw it already 2018-06-10T20:53:15 < jadew> I was the one who didn't 2018-06-10T20:53:23 < Steffanx> Sleep well, jadew 2018-06-10T20:53:29 < jadew> I will, in a bit 2018-06-10T20:53:34 < jadew> zyp, what did you think of it? 2018-06-10T20:53:55 < zyp> interesting enough 2018-06-10T20:54:17 < jadew> then I'll watch it when I get the chance, thanks 2018-06-10T20:54:25 < jadew> it's not like I have many choices 2018-06-10T20:54:44 < zyp> not a super amazing movie in any sense, but a fun enough watch 2018-06-10T20:55:00 < jadew> yeah, that's enough 2018-06-10T20:58:25 < Steffanx> Better not watch Tomb Raider, that was such disappointment. 2018-06-10T21:00:16 < BrainDamage> the super-latest one? 2018-06-10T21:00:36 < BrainDamage> with the disappeared father? 2018-06-10T21:00:38 < jadew> I was going to, but I went through the user reviews on IMDB and decided not to waste my time 2018-06-10T21:00:54 < Steffanx> Yes, that one BrainDamage. 2018-06-10T21:04:18 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-10T21:04:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T21:06:18 < jadew> ok, I'm off to bed 2018-06-10T21:06:19 < jadew> night 2018-06-10T21:06:38 < Steffanx> \o 2018-06-10T21:06:53 < jadew> o/ 2018-06-10T21:07:14 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfnMsENm1bE rip ZANO. even has waypoints for 60bux 2018-06-10T21:09:32 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-10T21:10:03 < Steffanx> oh, it just follows the gps coords send by the phone? 2018-06-10T21:11:09 < dongs> sure 2018-06-10T21:11:12 < dongs> what zano claimed to do 2018-06-10T21:11:32 < dongs> but zano never got normal flying down 2018-06-10T21:11:36 < dongs> never mind video+gps+etc stuff 2018-06-10T21:11:45 < Steffanx> oh i thought zano was supposed to do it based on video 2018-06-10T21:12:10 < zyp> hmm, cute 2018-06-10T21:12:22 < zyp> should I impulse buy one of those, or is it shit? 2018-06-10T21:12:31 < dongs> i donno look at video 2018-06-10T21:12:45 < dongs> my pal who religiously follows that quaddicker101 thing retweeted it and said "rip zano" 2018-06-10T21:13:03 < zyp> looks pretty decent for $60 2018-06-10T21:13:10 < dongs> yeah seriously 2018-06-10T21:13:17 < dongs> i think the only downside is its brushed shit 2018-06-10T21:13:22 < zyp> oh 2018-06-10T21:13:32 < dongs> i mean, i HOPE its not brushless 2018-06-10T21:14:42 < dongs> .. i actualyl cant tell from the pics 2018-06-10T21:15:58 < dongs> ahh i think its geared 2018-06-10T21:16:11 < dongs> brushed motor facing shaft down and a gear on teh bottom 2018-06-10T21:16:15 < Cracki> that thing is only .11ac compatible? wtf wifi is up- and down-compatible usually 2018-06-10T21:16:43 < dongs> Cracki: probly using some ac-only streaming shit, or the wifi chinamodule inside is only ac 2018-06-10T21:16:55 < Cracki> latter sounds plausible 2018-06-10T21:17:14 < zyp> or simply because it needs ac datarate to actually work 2018-06-10T21:19:15 < zyp> dongs, yeah, brushed geared is my guess too 2018-06-10T21:19:43 < dongs> its acutally keeping position pretty damn good for a plastic piece of shit, ahah 2018-06-10T21:19:55 < zyp> ok, buying 2018-06-10T21:20:28 < Cracki> that video doesn't look like many Mbit/s. I'd say .11ac is overkill, so either he is mistaken in his assessment or the device is cheap china stuff 2018-06-10T21:21:01 < dongs> youre just angry your shitty phone doesnt do ac 2018-06-10T21:21:14 < Cracki> yes 2018-06-10T21:22:40 < jpa-> Cracki: it could just be a poor codec, so that even though it is not very high quality, it requires high bandwidth 2018-06-10T21:23:05 < Cracki> doubt it. they'd need hw acceleration anyway, so it's most likely at least h.264 2018-06-10T21:23:10 -!- kakimir [~kakimir@87-92-92-75.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T21:23:26 < kakimir> hello irssi 2018-06-10T21:23:27 < jpa-> .. not all h264 codecs are equal, you know? 2018-06-10T21:23:38 < zyp> h.264 doesn't spec how good the encoder needs to be, just what the decoder is required to do 2018-06-10T21:23:44 < Cracki> the quad is shaky enough that high res footage would be a waste. 2018-06-10T21:24:13 < Cracki> hw h.264 encoders have been ubiquitous for years 2018-06-10T21:24:14 < dongs> ok paypal'd 2018-06-10T21:24:17 < jpa-> for the pricepoint, though, i wouldn't be surprised if it was just mjpeg 2018-06-10T21:24:39 < dongs> hopefully it doesnt have the asme problem all shitty chinawifithings have with samsung phones 2018-06-10T21:24:44 < dongs> where video just stops after a second or two 2018-06-10T21:24:48 < zyp> haha 2018-06-10T21:24:59 < dongs> i got those CX33 or wahtever thingies 2018-06-10T21:25:00 < Cracki> if bw were the problem, it would still kinda work at non-.11ac 2018-06-10T21:25:00 < dongs> and it does taht 2018-06-10T21:25:03 < zyp> you got a samsung phone now? 2018-06-10T21:25:08 < dongs> err, 'now'? 2018-06-10T21:25:17 < dongs> ive had S7 for a while now like a year or more 2018-06-10T21:25:24 < dongs> still trying to find a replacement that fits into my requirements 2018-06-10T21:25:30 < zyp> ah 2018-06-10T21:25:40 < dongs> which is <= 155g, front fingerprint/hardware buttons, no bullshit curved edges 2018-06-10T21:25:50 < dongs> and not ancient technology 2018-06-10T21:25:54 < zyp> last phone talk I remember was you talking about some xiaomi shit or something 2018-06-10T21:26:05 < dongs> sure i have xiaomi shit for burner phones 2018-06-10T21:26:15 < dongs> but my main chatmachine is S7 2018-06-10T21:27:11 < dongs> its been years since i flew anythign quadcopter related 2018-06-10T21:27:17 < dongs> let's see how long this shit lasts 2018-06-10T21:27:22 < zyp> haha 2018-06-10T21:27:24 < zyp> same 2018-06-10T21:27:40 < zyp> I bought some hubsan shit some years ago, that one was fun 2018-06-10T21:27:59 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T21:28:29 < dongs> also wtf is tomtop 2018-06-10T21:28:33 < dongs> is banggood ded now? 2018-06-10T21:28:54 < zyp> idk 2018-06-10T21:29:04 < zyp> I checked aliexpress but cheapest there were $70 shipped 2018-06-10T21:29:23 < zyp> tomtop was $10 cheaper and takes paypal so I figured why not 2018-06-10T21:31:56 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-10T21:32:46 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-mpiwmjlivxipupxh] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T21:34:01 < dongs> chinawait begins 2018-06-10T21:34:23 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/QBRm27y.gifv 2018-06-10T21:34:49 < kakimir> what are the most important irssi scripts to install? 2018-06-10T21:34:57 < zyp> none 2018-06-10T21:35:03 < dongs> none? who teh fuck uses irc scripts in 2018 2018-06-10T21:35:09 < dongs> FUCK KICAD; KICAD SUX; KICAD IS DYING; KICAD IS DEAD TO ME; KICAD HIT WTC 2018-06-10T21:35:13 < dongs> you can try this one 2018-06-10T21:35:52 < zyp> looks like I have keepnick, recode and splitlong 2018-06-10T21:35:56 < dongs> http://termbin.com/95ny 2018-06-10T21:36:18 < zyp> but I don't think keepnick is active, and recode is pretty obsolete now that everybody switched to utf-8 2018-06-10T21:36:31 < aandrew> kakimir: by far the most important is the mirc emulation 2018-06-10T21:37:01 < mra90> what is the correlation between ENTRY (ld function to define startup code) and hardware expectation of first instruction? 2018-06-10T21:37:02 < aandrew> dongs: you've got a script for that? 2018-06-10T21:37:09 < dongs> aandrew: i just pasted it, yes 2018-06-10T21:37:30 < zyp> mra90, ENTRY doesn't do anything useful 2018-06-10T21:37:52 < mra90> let's say I have boot configured to Main Flash memory now from what address will be first instruction fetched? 2018-06-10T21:38:03 < zyp> debuggers might care about it when doing a soft reset, but no sane debugger should do that 2018-06-10T21:38:10 < aandrew> mra90: you have to be more specific 2018-06-10T21:38:29 < zyp> mra90, after reset, the cpu starts by fetching the two first vectors 2018-06-10T21:38:47 < mra90> zyp: what vectors? 2018-06-10T21:38:51 < mra90> from what address? 2018-06-10T21:38:58 < aandrew> mra90: typically the linker script creates an image with the vector table at the right location, and all the .text and .rodata sections in flash, and .init (I think?) also... then the startup code (which is what the reset vector points to) copies it to ram, zeroes bss and jumps to _main 2018-06-10T21:39:00 < zyp> the value of the first vector gets put into the SP register and the cpu then starts executing code at the second vector 2018-06-10T21:39:16 < zyp> mra90, the vector table is expected to be located at address 0x0 2018-06-10T21:39:18 < aandrew> mra90: from the vector table. consult the processor datasheet 2018-06-10T21:39:34 < zyp> when you configure flash as the boot option, 0x0 is an alias of 0x8000000 2018-06-10T21:40:08 < zyp> so in other words, the vector table is always at the start of the flash image 2018-06-10T21:41:00 < mra90> okay so it start executing code from 0x8000004? 2018-06-10T21:41:06 < zyp> no 2018-06-10T21:41:06 < aandrew> no 2018-06-10T21:41:09 < aandrew> that's not what we said 2018-06-10T21:41:17 < zyp> it loads an address from 0x8000004 2018-06-10T21:41:24 < zyp> and starts executing at whatever address that is 2018-06-10T21:41:29 < aandrew> first dword of the IVR is the value for SP, next dword is the value for IP 2018-06-10T21:41:56 < aandrew> mra90: you may want to read the cortex m programmer's manual 2018-06-10T21:42:13 < dongs> do normal keil-using people even need to care 2018-06-10T21:42:20 < dongs> you have startup.s that does all that shit automatically 2018-06-10T21:42:24 < aandrew> gcc people don't need to either 2018-06-10T21:42:29 < aandrew> but sometimes it's good to understand how the system works 2018-06-10T21:42:49 < mra90> aandrew: this is what i try to understandst but the manual is not very clear about that 2018-06-10T21:42:58 < dongs> mra90: what are you tryting to achieve 2018-06-10T21:43:07 < mra90> dongs: Understand. 2018-06-10T21:43:08 < Steffanx> But a keil user would have more time to figure stuff like this out right? 2018-06-10T21:43:11 < aandrew> mra90: really? it seems pretty clear but perhaps I'm just used to it 2018-06-10T21:43:18 < aandrew> Steffanx: zing! 2018-06-10T21:43:58 < mra90> "then starts code execution from the boot memory starting from 0x0000 0004" 2018-06-10T21:44:09 < mra90> so it is not exactly what you guys have said 2018-06-10T21:44:15 < aandrew> mra90: where did you read that 2018-06-10T21:44:21 < dongs> < zyp> the value of the first vector gets put into the SP register and the cpu then starts executing code at the second vector 2018-06-10T21:44:26 < dongs> no it is literally waht was said 2018-06-10T21:44:28 < mra90> you rather said it fetches from ...04 and then xecute it 2018-06-10T21:44:33 < dongs> . 2018-06-10T21:44:38 < dongs> what do you think is at 04 2018-06-10T21:45:02 < mra90> reset handler 2018-06-10T21:45:42 < dongs> yes but i mean literally waht is there 2018-06-10T21:45:47 < dongs> the address of where the execution will be 2018-06-10T21:45:54 < zyp> mra90, do you understand the difference between an address and an instruction? 2018-06-10T21:46:06 < mra90> zyp: yes I do 2018-06-10T21:46:19 < mra90> dongs: right 2018-06-10T21:46:19 < zyp> all vectors are addresses 2018-06-10T21:46:51 < mra90> and also this is very unclear -> "After this startup delay is over, the CPU fetches the top-of-stack value from address..." 2018-06-10T21:47:05 < dongs> how is that unclear... 2018-06-10T21:47:11 < mra90> it looks like it doesn't care about BOOT1 BOOT0 2018-06-10T21:47:12 < dongs> thats the 0x0 address 2018-06-10T21:47:13 < zyp> that's another way of saying what I said aboutSP 2018-06-10T21:47:24 < dongs> mra90: what, thats completely irrelevant at that point 2018-06-10T21:47:26 < zyp> SP contains the current top-of-stack address 2018-06-10T21:47:35 < dongs> boot0/1 control mapping of flash/sram 2018-06-10T21:48:01 < mra90> so what is the difference between System memory and Main flash memory? 2018-06-10T21:48:01 < dongs> by the time its reading the values, correct shit has already been mapped into that address space 2018-06-10T21:48:07 < zyp> the cpu will always look for the vector table at 0x0 after reset, BOOT0/BOOT1 controls what get mapped there 2018-06-10T21:48:12 < dongs> system = bootloader. main = normal flash 2018-06-10T21:48:18 < zyp> system memory is a stupid name for rom bootloader 2018-06-10T21:48:57 < mra90> dongs: I think I don;t understand that parto of mapping, can you explain what is mapped to what by these boo0/1 pins? 2018-06-10T21:49:07 < aandrew> "The BOOT pins are also resampled when the device exits the Standby mode. Consequently, they must be kept in the required Boot mode configuration when the device is in the Standby mode. After this startup delay is over, the CPU fetches the top-of-stack value from address 0x0000 0000, then starts code execution from the boot memory starting from 0x0000 0004." 2018-06-10T21:49:32 < dongs> yeah. it doesnt get much clearer than that 2018-06-10T21:49:36 < zyp> mra90, the alias memory area 2018-06-10T21:50:19 < dongs> since bootloader is physically at like fffcxxxxx or whaetver, does that mean there's a block the size of vectortable/whatever that get smapped into 0x0 that has reset vector pointing to fffffcwhatever? 2018-06-10T21:50:32 < dongs> or does the whole region go to 0x0 2018-06-10T21:50:41 < dongs> cuz if you start stepping bootloader, the addresses are actually in fffcxxx range 2018-06-10T21:50:53 < zyp> whole region get mapped 2018-06-10T21:51:01 < mra90> aandrew: from that quote I don't understand the last part " After this startup delay is over, the CPU fetches the top-of-stack value from address 0x0000 0000" 2018-06-10T21:51:10 < mra90> to me it looks like it doesn't care about boot0/1 2018-06-10T21:51:17 < dongs> mra90: stack pointer points to an ~address~ 2018-06-10T21:51:27 < mra90> Whatever tehre is...just fetch from 0x0000 2018-06-10T21:51:30 < dongs> mra90: WHEN TEH FETCH HAPPENS BOOT0/1 IS ALREADY DECIDED 2018-06-10T21:51:30 < aandrew> mra90: you are missing an important part 2018-06-10T21:51:38 < aandrew> boot0/1 select which memory is aliased to 0x00000000 2018-06-10T21:51:59 < mra90> aandrew: Yeah maybe this is what I misss 2018-06-10T21:52:06 < aandrew> e.g. 00 = flash at 0x00000000. 01 = RAM at 0x00000000, etc. (check the ds for the specific values and mapping) 2018-06-10T21:52:11 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b8000d8600b055cb3b4241c111.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-10T21:52:17 < aandrew> this is called memory aliasing 2018-06-10T21:52:30 < zyp> dongs, when you link your firmware, you could either base it for 0x8000000 or 0x0 2018-06-10T21:52:47 < dongs> and waht I learned couple days ago, if you're on F0 and level 2 read out protection, boot0/1 values don't mean shit :p 2018-06-10T21:52:50 < aandrew> flash is *always* at 0x08000000 but it can *also* be at 0x00000000 (an alias) if hte boot pins or SYSCFG.MEMRMP is configured to do so 2018-06-10T21:53:04 < zyp> in the former case, firmware would put something like 0x8000123 in reset vector, in latter case it would put 0x123 in reset vector 2018-06-10T21:53:05 < dongs> zyp, i recall few weeks/something ago I was having some weird fuckery due to assuming 0x0 was == 0x800000 or whaetver 2018-06-10T21:53:07 < zyp> either would work 2018-06-10T21:53:26 < zyp> but the former is normal 2018-06-10T21:53:54 < zyp> rom bootloader does the same, links for 0x1fff0123 or whatever 2018-06-10T21:54:02 < dongs> can you fuck wiht memrmp after boot? 2018-06-10T21:54:04 < mra90> So after boot0/1 was evaluted 0x0 will be alias of ***what address are options**? 2018-06-10T21:54:09 < zyp> I think so 2018-06-10T21:54:29 < zyp> depends om the chip, but I believe some have bits in SYSCFG that can change the memory remap 2018-06-10T21:54:31 < aandrew> mra90: this is where I once again point you toward the datasheet for the specific part you are enquring about 2018-06-10T21:54:36 < aandrew> enquiring 2018-06-10T21:54:54 < mra90> aandrew: I looked for aliasing but there is no such thing 2018-06-10T21:55:02 < aandrew> which part 2018-06-10T21:55:15 < dongs> mra90: wtf could be unclear after you had like 3 people explain you same thing 2018-06-10T21:55:17 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T21:55:19 < aandrew> give me a link to the datasheet/reference manual you are looking at 2018-06-10T21:55:31 < mra90> aandrew: wait a while I found it 2018-06-10T21:55:34 < dongs> you could also read ST AN2606 2018-06-10T21:55:39 < dongs> the bootloader appnote 2018-06-10T21:55:42 < zyp> dongs, the problem with using address 0 in code is that C defines accesses to address 0 as undefined, so the compiler is allowed to optimize them out 2018-06-10T21:55:50 < mra90> 0x1FFF 0000 - 0x1FFF 77FF - system memory 2018-06-10T21:55:58 < mra90> 0x0800 0000 - 0x081F FFFF - flash memory 2018-06-10T21:57:04 < dongs> so whats the remaining quqestion? 2018-06-10T21:57:36 < mra90> dongs: none :) 2018-06-10T21:57:38 < mra90> Thanks you guys 2018-06-10T21:59:01 < Steffanx> How comes mr dongs is still awake? 2018-06-10T21:59:07 < Steffanx> IRC? 2018-06-10T21:59:16 < dongs> yeah i need to get the fuck off here 2018-06-10T21:59:17 < dongs> see ya 2018-06-10T21:59:19 < aandrew> it's chinawait I presume 2018-06-10T21:59:33 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-10T22:00:18 < zyp> haha, wtf 2018-06-10T22:00:22 < zyp> http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/armclang_asm/armclang_asm_zme1476352914494.htm <- this is a thing 2018-06-10T22:01:10 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/o8FH8 2018-06-10T22:02:39 < zyp> and compiling that doesn't even emit a warning with -Wall and -Wextra 2018-06-10T22:09:11 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-10T22:30:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T22:32:07 -!- zyp [zyp@zyp.no] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T22:32:31 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-10T22:33:50 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T22:36:07 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-10T22:45:53 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-10T22:56:00 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-10T23:13:10 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-10T23:13:31 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-10T23:15:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-10T23:36:05 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-10T23:36:56 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/GTDGrhH 2018-06-10T23:37:02 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/Z8bxVUv 2018-06-10T23:38:19 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/HIBfFNj 2018-06-10T23:40:11 < karlp> whatever happened to, "hello, how are you ?" before the spam 2018-06-10T23:41:57 < BrainDamage> I'm not sure if that collection of verbal diarrhoea that he spouts could be considered a greeting. I think the term "reverse coprophagia" would be rather apt 2018-06-10T23:46:00 < Laurenceb_> literally Muscularity 2018-06-10T23:46:12 < Laurenceb_> muh bullying 2018-06-10T23:46:15 < Laurenceb_> mods, mods 2018-06-10T23:46:25 < BrainDamage> thank you for just proving my point 2018-06-10T23:47:44 < Thorn> such is life in Britain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHCFV1njZMk 2018-06-10T23:48:12 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/wvL3cyJ 2018-06-10T23:49:03 < Steffanx> Wanna feel better karlp? 2018-06-10T23:49:31 < Laurenceb_> stroopenwaffel 2018-06-10T23:49:51 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o karlp] by ChanServ 2018-06-10T23:49:51 < Laurenceb_> type 2 diabetes 2018-06-10T23:50:01 < Steffanx> L 2018-06-10T23:50:05 < Steffanx> Ol 2018-06-10T23:59:57 -!- mode/##stm32 [-o karlp] by ChanServ --- Day changed Mon Jun 11 2018 2018-06-11T00:19:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-13e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-11T00:20:03 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-mpiwmjlivxipupxh] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-11T00:20:03 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T00:29:13 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/M8h6qiS 2018-06-11T01:01:18 < invzim> pros.. any issues running j-link via usb3 hub? 2018-06-11T01:02:03 < Laurenceb_> muh hub 2018-06-11T01:02:06 < invzim> I have a need to clean up my desk 2018-06-11T01:02:16 < Laurenceb_> thats what she said 2018-06-11T01:02:52 < invzim> or get some kind of box with 1-1 cabling to computer 2018-06-11T01:03:32 < Laurenceb_> It Is Time For The EmDrive To Come Out Of The Shadows 2018-06-11T01:05:00 < karlp> invzim: why would there be? 2018-06-11T01:05:11 < karlp> only the same sorts of problems some systems have with usb3 ports vs usb2 ports. 2018-06-11T01:06:02 < invzim> because USB is tricky business? 2018-06-11T01:06:41 < karlp> usb3 ports include usb2 ports inside them 2018-06-11T01:19:13 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T01:20:32 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-11T01:31:41 < englishman> not on lunix 2018-06-11T01:36:45 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-11T01:46:37 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T01:52:14 < Laurenceb_> GNU/Lunix 2018-06-11T01:53:54 < Laurenceb_> Soylent 2018-06-11T01:54:12 < Laurenceb_> Canuck!!! 2018-06-11T01:54:29 < karlp> take your meds 2018-06-11T01:55:39 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/lYSOvP7 2018-06-11T01:56:21 < Thorn> if Laurenceb_ were obsessed with shemale porn it wouldn't be half as creepy 2018-06-11T01:57:06 < Laurenceb_> today I spent too long on youtube 2018-06-11T01:58:40 < Cracki> gulags are a good idea 2018-06-11T01:59:08 < Laurenceb_> u should be an e-celeb too then 2018-06-11T01:59:18 < Cracki> question is, which of his books has that on its back 2018-06-11T01:59:34 < Laurenceb_> it's a crop 2018-06-11T01:59:42 < Laurenceb_> blame his 4chan fans 2018-06-11T02:00:38 < Cracki> I don't see books on the middle east on his shelves 2018-06-11T02:00:44 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr3Ze0qt33s 2018-06-11T02:00:50 < Laurenceb_> lulling 2018-06-11T02:00:55 < Cracki> he should have plenty, if he cares about communism 2018-06-11T02:01:12 < Cracki> that dude doesn't look very english 2018-06-11T02:01:50 < Laurenceb_> prob cuz he is Irish 2018-06-11T02:02:02 < Cracki> he's not a ginger either 2018-06-11T02:02:35 < Cracki> wat the police force him to shut his channel down? lol 2018-06-11T02:02:55 < Cracki> why do they implement 1984? 2018-06-11T02:03:08 < Cracki> scratch that. the Why doesn't matter. the Who matters. 2018-06-11T02:04:16 < Laurenceb_> he is a tard to bending over backwards for them 2018-06-11T02:04:20 < Laurenceb_> *for 2018-06-11T02:05:33 < Cracki> if I had the choice between owning and carrying fire arms, and maintaining a youtube channel, I'd choose the guns, ESPECIALLY in the UK 2018-06-11T02:05:46 < Cracki> that country isn't safe 2018-06-11T02:06:40 < Cracki> don't trust their judicial or executive system 2018-06-11T02:08:15 < Laurenceb_> >implying that a gun would do anything 2018-06-11T02:08:30 < Laurenceb_> >not an armoured killdigger attack on parliament 2018-06-11T02:08:38 < Cracki> when they come for you, you can at least take some down along with you 2018-06-11T02:08:48 < Laurenceb_> >slowly bulldozing it into the thames over several hours 2018-06-11T02:09:00 < Cracki> remember remember 2018-06-11T02:09:17 < Laurenceb_> that reminds me why it would fail 2018-06-11T02:09:29 < Laurenceb_> treads stuck in the basement 2018-06-11T02:14:10 < Cracki> it begins https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfXJK4YX4AIXhmk.jpg 2018-06-11T02:23:17 < stvn> THE THAMES 2018-06-11T02:28:36 < srk> https://paste.vpsfree.cz/9Lpj78Ex/ 2018-06-11T02:28:46 < srk> clustering mcus 2018-06-11T02:42:26 < stvn> We can’t fit enough shit in the boot - italy 2018-06-11T02:44:11 < stvn> New cat 2018-06-11T02:51:09 < srk> <3 2018-06-11T02:55:56 < Cracki> srk, what does the h mean 2018-06-11T02:59:59 < srk> Cracki: it's a dendrogram, h is computed from a stupid metric 2018-06-11T03:00:01 < srk> http://hackage.haskell.org/package/clustering-0.4.0/docs/AI-Clustering-Hierarchical.html 2018-06-11T03:00:28 < srk> metric only compares names now but I'll add number of registers for peripherals and IP blocks 2018-06-11T03:00:43 < Cracki> h...uh 2018-06-11T03:01:28 < srk> the point is to get sort-of a compatibility matrix accross MCUs 2018-06-11T03:01:55 < srk> extract common parts, generate support for these. then for each MCU 2018-06-11T03:02:30 < Cracki> and you think a tree can represent that? 2018-06-11T03:02:44 < srk> well, yes 2018-06-11T03:02:50 < srk> it's nost just a tree! :D 2018-06-11T03:02:57 < Cracki> Laurenceb_, guess the blob ;) https://imgur.com/a/NNMEHo2 2018-06-11T03:03:33 < Cracki> something to make sense of at least the stm32 landscape would be very nice 2018-06-11T03:06:10 < srk> inside the tree hidden from your sight is a parsed SVD spec for each mcu 2018-06-11T03:07:51 < srk> with cubemx XMLs you can get a complete picture 2018-06-11T03:08:06 < srk> hard part is to make sense of it all and be able to compare stuff 2018-06-11T03:08:22 < srk> which is why I'm trying clustering 2018-06-11T03:15:47 < stvn> thanks for that 2018-06-11T03:24:05 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-11T03:24:56 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T03:27:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T03:30:50 < srk> Device STM32W108 has no USART 2018-06-11T03:32:04 < Cracki> never heard of W-series 2018-06-11T03:32:28 < Cracki> ah, wireless thingy 2018-06-11T03:32:43 < Cracki> .15.4/zigbee 2018-06-11T03:33:18 < srk> clustered according to number of USART registers https://paste.vpsfree.cz/tbRZR_Fa/ 2018-06-11T03:33:26 < Cracki> data shiet does say it has uart, but might be a compound peripheral 2018-06-11T03:33:30 < srk> seems to match IP block version \o/ 2018-06-11T03:33:39 < srk> yas 2018-06-11T03:33:40 < srk> ya 2018-06-11T03:33:41 < srk> yes 2018-06-11T03:33:46 < Cracki> yas queen 2018-06-11T03:34:07 < srk> it's called 2018-06-11T03:34:08 < srk> lol 2018-06-11T03:34:10 < srk> wait for it 2018-06-11T03:34:13 < srk> SerialControll 2018-06-11T03:34:23 < Cracki> >troll 2018-06-11T03:35:11 < srk> cute little device 2018-06-11T03:35:12 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T03:36:58 < srk> GPIO_DBG 0x40004028 General purpose I/Os 2018-06-11T03:36:58 < Cracki> today's international lynx day https://twitter.com/HourlyLynxes/status/1005970546520219651 2018-06-11T03:36:58 < srk> wot 2018-06-11T03:37:29 < srk> cute 2018-06-11T03:38:41 < emeb> do bobcats count? 2018-06-11T03:39:09 < Cracki> officially. 2018-06-11T03:39:16 < Cracki> caracals don't, weirdly. 2018-06-11T03:39:53 < emeb> we get bobcats here. I've seen them running around in some neighborhoods. 2018-06-11T03:40:58 < Cracki> I'd throw meat at them until they purr 2018-06-11T03:42:06 < emeb> getting close enough to tell if they're purring is probably not easy 2018-06-11T03:43:07 < Cracki> they're not house cats, they don't know humans are can openers 2018-06-11T03:43:22 < emeb> I bet they'd be willing to learn 2018-06-11T03:43:53 < Cracki> russians keep lynx as pets. there are a bunch of youtube channels about that. 2018-06-11T03:44:17 < emeb> seen some of those. Russians - what ya gonna do? 2018-06-11T03:44:19 < Cracki> they're just kittehs with larger knives 2018-06-11T03:44:57 < emeb> and really big feets 2018-06-11T03:45:03 * Cracki .oO( perhaps that's why there are no big cats in the UK, they'd get arrested ) 2018-06-11T03:45:32 < emeb> lol 2018-06-11T03:45:45 < Cracki> plushies with murder bappers 2018-06-11T03:45:45 < emeb> UK and weapons. 2018-06-11T03:46:03 < Cracki> oi m8 where's ya loicense for that tea spoon 2018-06-11T03:46:20 < emeb> It'd be a shame if someone got hurt... 2018-06-11T03:46:42 < emeb> It's a wonder that cricket bats are allowed. 2018-06-11T03:47:13 < Cracki> right, a cricket bat is almost a butter knife 2018-06-11T03:49:04 < emeb> another twitter acct that tweets pix of snow leopards ~hourly -> https://twitter.com/SnepBot 2018-06-11T03:50:27 < Cracki> critter bots are popular :P 2018-06-11T03:53:30 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-11T04:04:45 < srk> Whenever we have two partitions of the same data, we can build a confusion 2018-06-11T04:04:46 < srk> matrix 2018-06-11T04:04:51 < srk> this. 2018-06-11T04:04:51 < srk> :D 2018-06-11T04:19:27 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T04:22:15 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-11T04:22:22 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-11T04:23:33 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-11T04:24:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-11T04:24:27 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/hpVga8l 2018-06-11T04:25:36 < srk> muh cluster https://paste.vpsfree.cz/ZKF:1mFs/ 2018-06-11T04:29:05 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-11T04:41:34 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A3264B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T04:45:22 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32099.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-11T05:33:35 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-11T05:33:37 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T07:02:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T07:06:09 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-11T07:07:51 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T07:11:35 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-11T07:11:35 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-11T07:14:49 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T07:15:52 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-11T07:22:56 < stvn> ty srk 2018-06-11T07:28:07 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T07:28:09 < dongs> Tracking in slow motion the internal temperature and the structural dynamics during the penetration of a nail in lithium-ion cells https://buff.ly/2sWxl3l 2018-06-11T07:41:27 < stvn> Do this before bed! Watch your body fat melt like crazy!! http://www.smokingmeth.net/images/smoking-meth-with-pipe.gif 2018-06-11T08:15:35 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-11T08:21:18 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-11T08:54:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-84b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T08:56:25 -!- Viper-7 is now known as password3_14 2018-06-11T09:03:07 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:06:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:07:42 -!- password3_14 is now known as Viper-7 2018-06-11T09:07:50 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:24:16 < dongs> does SDIO sd card have some powersleep/something mode 2018-06-11T09:24:27 < dongs> if you power it on and don't do stuff for x minutes that it goes back to sleep/something 2018-06-11T09:26:34 < jpa-> i think so, but it is probably manufacturer dependent 2018-06-11T09:26:48 < jpa-> "A unique feature of cards in the SanDisk SD Card Product Family is automatic entrance and exit from sleep mode. Upon completion of an operation, cards enter sleep mode to conserve power if no further commands are received in less than 5 milliseconds (ms). " 2018-06-11T09:27:12 -!- Peter_M [bgdwiepp@115-69-25-80-cpe.spintel.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:27:35 -!- PeterM [bgdwiepp@115-69-25-80-cpe.spintel.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-11T09:28:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-11T09:32:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:33:15 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:35:25 < emeb_mac> then the trick is figuring out if the SD cards you bought are really SanDisk. 2018-06-11T09:35:55 < emeb_mac> I suspect 95% of gray mkt SD cards in .cn are printed "SanDisk" 2018-06-11T09:38:00 < stvn> i like the sound of this automatic entrance and exit 2018-06-11T09:38:20 < jpa-> i also think that their "unique feature" may not be all that unique 2018-06-11T09:38:23 < stvn> i only buy muh media from officeworks i hope they're not dodgy 2018-06-11T09:41:56 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-11T09:44:43 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:45:07 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T09:45:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-84b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-11T09:46:27 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MmB7_e7ftY 2018-06-11T09:47:28 * stvn remembers why I don't watch tv 2018-06-11T09:49:54 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-11T09:54:38 < Haohmaru> a bunch of USB3 flash sticks we got here were getting messed up after minutes of usage.. getting uber hot and then failing to be recognized by the OS 2018-06-11T09:55:02 < stvn> yah that's why i dun doit 2018-06-11T09:55:29 < stvn> think i got like 6x 16gb toshibas for under $50aud 2018-06-11T09:56:21 < Haohmaru> i don't remember what "brand" those were 2018-06-11T09:56:29 < Haohmaru> some obscure one probably 2018-06-11T09:57:18 < Haohmaru> a few of them worked, but more than half of them shat their pants quickly 2018-06-11T09:59:46 < stvn> these were from a 'reputable' reseller so nothing went wrong 2018-06-11T10:05:31 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T10:24:20 < Steffanx> Not those i hope: http://bootableusb.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/toshiba-transmemory-usb.png stvn? 2018-06-11T10:28:26 < stvn> exacary 2018-06-11T10:28:33 < stvn> iz it a botnet mate? 2018-06-11T10:29:33 < stvn> also have 16gb EMTEC sticks cause BASF and zyklon b fame 2018-06-11T10:29:48 < Haohmaru> mmmm, BASF 2018-06-11T10:30:07 < Haohmaru> teh nostalgia 2018-06-11T10:30:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-11T10:30:39 < stvn> some of that heritage lol 2018-06-11T10:31:30 < Steffanx> They are slow as think poop through a funnel stvn 2018-06-11T10:31:31 < Haohmaru> i think i got an old BASF/EMTEC 650MB recordable CD 2018-06-11T10:33:27 < Steffanx> *thick 2018-06-11T10:33:31 < stvn> yeah i had the 5.25" floppies mate 2018-06-11T10:33:45 < Haohmaru> never had those 2018-06-11T10:33:52 < Haohmaru> i only had 1.44MB floppies 2018-06-11T10:34:30 < Steffanx> You're old. 2018-06-11T10:34:49 < stvn> DSDD 2018-06-11T10:34:55 < stvn> for muh XT 2018-06-11T10:37:39 < Haohmaru> who, me? 2018-06-11T10:40:49 < Steffanx> Ya mate. 2018-06-11T10:43:07 < stvn> i'm older than the great nigger 2018-06-11T10:43:46 < Haohmaru> true, i'm old 2018-06-11T10:44:00 < Haohmaru> stvn who's that? 2018-06-11T10:44:31 < Haohmaru> Dr Dre? 2018-06-11T10:44:38 < stvn> idk, but i just found a 16x2 display in my junk draw 2018-06-11T10:45:24 < Steffanx> better make some psychedelic art 2018-06-11T10:45:32 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-11T10:46:02 < Haohmaru> that sounds like a perfect task for stvn 2018-06-11T10:50:01 < stvn> i keep finding cigarette lighters in my draws too 2018-06-11T10:50:07 < stvn> maybe a bong will be around mate 2018-06-11T10:50:25 < Haohmaru> i no longer have lighters 2018-06-11T10:50:38 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T10:50:54 < Steffanx> The best basement is a dark basement right? Just the blue glare of your crt is all you need. 2018-06-11T10:51:11 < Haohmaru> why is it blue? 2018-06-11T10:51:19 < stvn> yeah I worked with a chimney, decided i was better off taking up smoking again for a while 2018-06-11T10:51:41 < stvn> idk mate 2018-06-11T10:51:51 < stvn> steffan thinks crt glows blue 2018-06-11T10:52:03 < Haohmaru> "worked with a chimney" <- translate? 2018-06-11T10:52:15 < stvn> some chainsmoking motherfucker 2018-06-11T10:52:27 < Steffanx> oh, make it blue-ish. 2018-06-11T10:52:28 < Haohmaru> ah 2018-06-11T10:53:05 < stvn> i can only hope he just.. dies. 2018-06-11T10:53:31 < Steffanx> Stop the hate stvn. Your doctor told me you should forget. 2018-06-11T10:53:51 < stvn> i did.... just think the world is better off with him ;) 2018-06-11T10:57:20 < Steffanx> Every Theepot has its use stvn 2018-06-11T10:58:09 < Steffanx> Even when this use is just a hard life lesson for you. :P 2018-06-11T10:58:27 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T10:59:35 < stvn> oh 2018-06-11T10:59:42 < stvn> a lesson indeed 2018-06-11T10:59:59 < stvn> if in some past life i killed 100 niggers, i think it's caught up with me. 2018-06-11T11:01:12 < Haohmaru> what if YOU were a n****r? 2018-06-11T11:01:29 < Haohmaru> or is that technically unpossible 2018-06-11T11:01:52 < Haohmaru> btw, "past-life" <- dafuq? 2018-06-11T11:02:07 < stvn> idk 2018-06-11T11:04:34 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKTXqX4_rKQ 2018-06-11T11:28:51 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-11T11:59:56 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::1:ed6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T12:15:12 < Hamilton> IRC masters, Do you use Unit-Testing in your workflow? What framework/hack do you use for C? 2018-06-11T12:15:23 < dongs> lol unit testing 2018-06-11T12:15:27 < Hamilton> In other words, what is "the shit" framework for unit-testing embedded?? 2018-06-11T12:15:39 < dongs> not writing shit code in the first place 2018-06-11T12:15:41 < dongs> then you dont need to etst it 2018-06-11T12:25:37 < stvn> hmmmm 2018-06-11T12:28:23 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T12:29:54 < jpa-> Hamilton: i use unittests, yeah 2018-06-11T12:30:16 < dongs> This software is intended to be used on Tektronix Oscilloscopes with Windows 64 bit version. 2018-06-11T12:30:17 < jpa-> for c++ i use cxxtest, though nowadays i would pick googletest 2018-06-11T12:30:19 < dongs> wat 2018-06-11T12:30:24 < dongs> new tek scopes come wiht 64shit windowsx? 2018-06-11T12:30:40 < jpa-> for c i use custom stuff, though IIRC there was some nice minimal c unittest framework 2018-06-11T12:31:57 < jpa-> ah yeah, tinytest; kind of similar to what i use https://github.com/nanopb/nanopb/blob/master/tests/common/unittests.h 2018-06-11T12:32:16 < Hamilton> jpa-, There are lots of frameworks...CMocka, Creedling,... 2018-06-11T12:32:32 < Hamilton> But I want to use the thing everyone is using 2018-06-11T12:33:15 < Hamilton> jpa-, Do you abstract all your modules (I guess mocking?) and test your code against it? 2018-06-11T12:33:55 < jpa-> no, i only unittest stuff that needs no direct hardware interfacing 2018-06-11T12:33:55 < Hamilton> For example if your project consists of an SPI LCD, 2 BLDC motors and a BLE module, do you abstract them and test your code? 2018-06-11T12:34:59 < jpa-> e.g. i might have a driver that reads some sensor; that is only tested on actual hardware - then it gives out some data that goes to a processing part, that i unittest using data from file; then there could be some module that sends the data to server, that is also difficult to unittests but can be tested on PC 2018-06-11T12:36:17 < Hamilton> jpa-, So you write your MCU code (at least the processing part) in a way that could be compiled on Host? 2018-06-11T12:36:45 < jpa-> yes - i isolate the hardware communication parts to drivers 2018-06-11T12:36:53 < zyp> Hamilton, that shouldn't be too hard 2018-06-11T12:37:07 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T12:37:08 < dongs> < Hamilton> jpa-, So you write your MCU code (at least the processing part) in a way that could be compiled on Host? 2018-06-11T12:37:11 < dongs> uh yeah 2018-06-11T12:37:14 < dongs> me too 2018-06-11T12:37:15 < jpa-> i find that it is useless to try to mock the actual hardware for testing drivers, because you end up debugging the mock as much as the driver 2018-06-11T12:37:20 < dongs> i sometimes write windows simulator for wahtever hardware im doing as well 2018-06-11T12:37:38 < dongs> i wrote a fairly complete thign for this fan/heater shit iw as doing last year 2018-06-11T12:37:45 < dongs> with a gui and sliders for tempreature and curves and shit 2018-06-11T12:38:07 < srk> windows simulator :D 2018-06-11T12:38:08 < dongs> and actual embedded code had #ifdef _WIN32 to do host-only stuff 2018-06-11T12:38:08 < srk> lol 2018-06-11T12:38:09 < zyp> when I were dicking around with oled shit, I made a host emulator for it 2018-06-11T12:38:18 < Hamilton> jpa-, This "driver" you speak of, is it UNIX driver convention like open, write, ioctrl? 2018-06-11T12:38:36 < jpa-> only if i'm working on nuttx :P 2018-06-11T12:38:57 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/ijmPl.jpg https://bin.jvnv.net/file/hTFsT.png 2018-06-11T12:39:08 < Hamilton> jpa-, So you don't adhere to any standards writing APIs for your sensors (and drivers)? 2018-06-11T12:39:28 < jpa-> Hamilton: no, usually there wouldn't be any standards 2018-06-11T12:40:02 < jpa-> zyp: does that actually emulate the TFT, or do you just write the bitmap to RAM instead? 2018-06-11T12:40:10 < Hamilton> zyp, Nice, I was also thinking of building such thing 2018-06-11T12:41:21 < zyp> jpa-, https://paste.jvnv.net/view/rU5Wi 2018-06-11T12:41:41 < jpa-> yeah, i wouldn't call that a emulator :P 2018-06-11T12:42:00 < zyp> bad wording, sorry 2018-06-11T12:42:17 < jpa-> i guess you could call it mocking, though, but i'd just call it an "abstract interface" or something 2018-06-11T12:42:25 < zyp> I were thinking platform emulation, not hardware emulation 2018-06-11T12:42:29 < jpa-> but yeah, that's basically the same kind of stuff i do 2018-06-11T12:42:38 < jpa-> interfaces that are independent of the hardware 2018-06-11T12:43:24 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/9URxX <- more complete 2018-06-11T12:43:31 < jpa-> and then i usually organize stuff so that input comes from files, output goes to files, expected results are in other files (except when the data is simple enough that it can be hardcoded to the test itself) 2018-06-11T12:44:41 < Hamilton> What if I strictly adhere to using UNIX standard for writing every driver for every sensor and actuator? Is it the best and most standard way of writing embedded? I guess unit testing that on a host would also become easier? 2018-06-11T12:44:42 < jpa-> ideally you'd have nice isolated modules for everything so that the top level code is short and easy to review - and most of the modules would be unittestable without extra effort 2018-06-11T12:45:12 < zyp> what unix standard? 2018-06-11T12:45:21 < jpa-> Hamilton: i don't see it helping the unittesting much - it does have other benefits and drawbacks 2018-06-11T12:45:42 < zyp> like everything is a file, and then ioctl()? 2018-06-11T12:45:43 < kakimir> anyone have that sma meme pic? 2018-06-11T12:46:04 < jpa-> for example in one work project we use nuttx so every sensor driver is unix-style /dev node - then we needed to put some sensors remotely on another MCU, and it was very easy to abstract the api and just to bring in remote devices under /dev/slave0/xxx 2018-06-11T12:46:41 < jpa-> drawback is that the unix-style API involves a lot of copying and casting and does nothing to ensure type safety at compile time 2018-06-11T12:47:11 < zyp> IMO the whole file abstraction is not very useful for a bare metal project, the point of file abstraction is to reduce everything to the lowest common denominator for the middleware layer you need to push stuff through 2018-06-11T12:47:30 < zyp> on bare metal embedded you don't have that middleware layer, you link everything together 2018-06-11T12:47:44 < srk> ++ 2018-06-11T12:47:57 < jpa-> https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/ebike-controller/blob/master/src/motor_orientation.h for my own stuff i much prefer this kind of api, i can just call motor_orientation_get_angle() instead of open("/dev/motor_orientation", O_RDONLY); read(fd, &angle, sizeof(angle)); close(fd); etc. 2018-06-11T12:47:59 < zyp> so sanely designed code interfaces are much more useful 2018-06-11T12:48:12 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-11T12:48:56 < karlp> why didn't you make init() part of Display? 2018-06-11T12:49:14 < jpa-> but in the work project we have multiple separately developed measurement applications that sometimes need to run simultaneously etc, so it is much more useful to have a clearly separated "kernel" vs. "user" API there - even though in reality they all live in the same memory space 2018-06-11T12:49:24 < Hamilton> I was thinking if I write a library for nrf24l01 or MPU6050, what API standard should I use if I want to convinently use it in other projects and MCUs? 2018-06-11T12:50:13 < zyp> define a spi interface, take a pointer to an instance of that 2018-06-11T12:50:36 < jpa-> Hamilton: you need to write the same thing separately for atleast 2, preferrably 3 platforms before you know enough to really make it portable 2018-06-11T12:50:56 < jpa-> before that, don't bother trying, just make it simple and easy to modify 2018-06-11T12:51:34 < jpa-> i've seen way too often people invent a bazillion abstraction layers "just in case we ever want to run this on another platform" and most of the time they just make it more difficult to understand and use in the first place 2018-06-11T12:51:36 < srk> jpa-: your hands gonna hate you for stuff like static void do_field_oriented_control(bool do_modulation) 2018-06-11T12:51:49 < jpa-> srk: what do you mean? 2018-06-11T12:51:58 < Hamilton> zyp, Ah, so everything comes to that I2C or SPI communication. There is a I2C dev library which actually does this (Jeff Roseberg was his name IIRC) 2018-06-11T12:52:03 < srk> such_very_long_names /o\ 2018-06-11T12:52:15 < jpa-> srk: amount of typing? i of course just type "do_field" 2018-06-11T12:52:42 < srk> yeah, I would just doFOC :D 2018-06-11T12:53:19 < jpa-> i might also for just that single case, but i wouldn't replace "get_current_vector" with "get_cv" 2018-06-11T12:53:22 < zyp> karlp, because it's not really part of the interface, it's part of the specific implementation 2018-06-11T12:54:10 < Hamilton> jpa-, 2 or different platforms :| I guess Arm, AVR, PIC? How much time do I have ? :( 2018-06-11T12:54:38 < srk> my HAL is like .. BackpressureTransmit ('Struct "spi_transaction_request") ('Struct "spi_transaction_result") 2018-06-11T12:55:03 < zyp> karlp, i.e. the code that would call init() knows which class it instanced, it doesn't need to work on an abstract type like the drawing code 2018-06-11T12:55:09 < srk> you send a request to a channel and get back reply when it's done 2018-06-11T12:55:28 < Hamilton> If only there was a good portable written embedded code which I could just see and replicate, that would have been great. I guess ST's TimeCube is a good abstraction...or that I2C dev lib 2018-06-11T12:55:58 < jpa-> there is no universal definition of "good" 2018-06-11T12:56:05 < stvn> [: 2018-06-11T12:56:12 < srk> Hamilton: if you don't mind giving up on C per se we have pretty good abstraction for haskell http://48.io/~rmarko/book/ :) 2018-06-11T12:56:27 < jpa-> and especially for hardware drivers, there is necessarily a tradeoff between portability and use of hardware capabilities 2018-06-11T12:56:54 < jpa-> micropython hardware abstraction seems pretty cool also 2018-06-11T12:56:57 < srk> makes it easy to write portable device driver code which is cool 2018-06-11T12:57:03 < srk> jpa-: no, micropython is a joke 2018-06-11T12:57:12 < jpa-> srk: care to elaborate? 2018-06-11T12:57:18 < zyp> I'd say stop worrying too much about interface design, just make something that seems decent, then refactor it later when you realize you were wrong and it's causing a problem 2018-06-11T12:57:30 < jpa-> "The only thing worse than generalizing from one example is generalizing from no examples at all." 2018-06-11T12:57:30 < Hamilton> jpa- zyp srk Thank you guys 2018-06-11T12:58:43 < zyp> once you have two pieces of working code with an interface between them, it's not really that hard to redo the interface without breaking the rest 2018-06-11T12:59:19 < srk> jpa-: badly executed, backed by python, garbage collection? webrepl? 2018-06-11T12:59:41 < srk> but you don't want to break the interface, right? 2018-06-11T12:59:49 < karlp> jpa-: good advice on just writing it first, abstracting it later 2018-06-11T13:00:00 < jpa-> srk: IMO it works pretty well, code seems clean, i like python, isn't it refcounted, i haven't used webrepl but its existence doesn't bother me 2018-06-11T13:00:29 < srk> good for you :) it scares the hell out of me 2018-06-11T13:00:33 < jpa-> ah, micropython is actually garbage collected 2018-06-11T13:00:34 < srk> (tho I'm using nodemcu) 2018-06-11T13:00:34 < karlp> srk: ah, so your real problem is that it's not haskell? 2018-06-11T13:00:41 < srk> ^^ 2018-06-11T13:00:59 < srk> karlp: my real problem is stuff that breaks all the time :) 2018-06-11T13:01:03 < jpa-> quite fun - i don't have much of an opinion either direction, i've seen working systems done with either 2018-06-11T13:01:14 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-11T13:01:35 < jpa-> but yeah, it can be that maybe i just haven't hit the boundaries of micropython yet 2018-06-11T13:01:53 < Hamilton> srk, ufff...what is that Ivory thing? It is another language? So you guys have become experts in C or C++ that you know that some things could not be convinently done in those languages? 2018-06-11T13:01:57 < jpa-> my experience with nodemcu & lua was indeed that it breaks all the time 2018-06-11T13:02:05 < srk> lua interpreter is quite small so it make sense for embedded contrary to python :/ 2018-06-11T13:02:24 < jpa-> except for lua being an annoying language to work in IMO :P 2018-06-11T13:02:45 < zyp> one day I'm gonna learn how GC actually works 2018-06-11T13:02:47 < jpa-> Hamilton: you don't have to be an expert and C & C++ to want something better :P 2018-06-11T13:03:03 < srk> Hamilton: no, we just don't see a point in using this very old C thing directly 2018-06-11T13:03:13 < srk> there are no C++ experts as well 2018-06-11T13:03:22 < srk> and OOP is stupid 2018-06-11T13:03:23 < karlp> only thing wwrong with lua is people who think the lnum patch was a good idea. 2018-06-11T13:03:41 < karlp> but yeah, nodemcu was clunky as hell 2018-06-11T13:04:07 < srk> running off a dev branch for like two years with no issues 2018-06-11T13:04:11 < srk> think it's 2.0 now 2018-06-11T13:05:05 < jpa-> i'd be using rust but i keeps refusing to compile my programs 2018-06-11T13:05:44 < Hamilton> Isn't it better to become expert in just one language (C)? Isn't it better to assign the time committed to languages like D, Rust,etc to something else like analog? 2018-06-11T13:06:11 < srk> yes, it's better to become expert in haskell IMHO 2018-06-11T13:06:39 < jpa-> Hamilton: better for what? 2018-06-11T13:06:42 < srk> you'll simultaneously become expert in the majority of the rest of the languages 2018-06-11T13:06:46 < srk> :D 2018-06-11T13:06:49 < zyp> jpa-, productivity? 2018-06-11T13:06:57 < Hamilton> jpa-, Better for designing embedded stuff 2018-06-11T13:07:07 < jpa-> for productivity in a C-only job, sure 2018-06-11T13:07:28 < srk> no :) 2018-06-11T13:07:46 < Hamilton> srk, But how do you manage other things like powering your boards, controlling your motors, managing BLE protocols 2018-06-11T13:07:54 < jpa-> Hamilton: times are changing, even now i already think that many times C++ may be a better choice for designing embedded systems, and for many projects bringing in a high-level language is also a good idea 2018-06-11T13:08:05 < srk> Hamilton: the same way as with any other language - by changing registers :) 2018-06-11T13:09:18 < zyp> the advantage of C++ is that it's mostly a superset of C, so compiler support is at least as good as the common denominator :) 2018-06-11T13:09:25 < Hamilton> srk, I mean, can you design a DC-DC converter? 2018-06-11T13:09:47 < srk> Hamilton: ah right, not yet 2018-06-11T13:09:52 < zyp> that's why I like C++, it's a less tedious C 2018-06-11T13:10:00 < zyp> only problem is when customers want C 2018-06-11T13:10:17 < jpa-> what if customers want... misra-C? 2018-06-11T13:10:24 < zyp> yeah, exactly 2018-06-11T13:10:26 < jpa-> *miserable-C 2018-06-11T13:10:56 < zyp> there's a safety aspect to this shit I'm working on now, so I'm expecting a whole lot of miserable refactoring later :p 2018-06-11T13:10:56 < Hamilton> jpa-, There was a study in TU Delft that states "actually using MISRA-C can cause more problems" 2018-06-11T13:11:15 < zyp> but for now I'm focusing on getting the features in 2018-06-11T13:11:20 < srk> Hamilton: I wanna play with stm32f334s buck/boost and then maybe try designing one 2018-06-11T13:11:41 < srk> but I'm now moving the other way (less servo power) for now 2018-06-11T13:11:48 < jpa-> Hamilton: it's not like the point of using misra-C is actually making stuff safe; the point is that it being the industry standard, people don't get blamed for it 2018-06-11T13:12:02 < Hamilton> srk, This is what I'm talking about. By spending more time on CS stuff on embedded, we lost expertise in other sides like analog 2018-06-11T13:12:14 < srk> Hamilton: I've never had that 2018-06-11T13:12:37 < BrainDamage> analol is dying anyway 2018-06-11T13:12:39 < srk> I've came from CS purist school 2018-06-11T13:12:58 < jpa-> by spending time on embedded stuff, you lose expertise in e.g. web design? 2018-06-11T13:12:58 < srk> had to learn lots of practical stuff to be able to produce things 2018-06-11T13:13:20 < Hamilton> jpa-, embedded = CS + analog + controls + ... 2018-06-11T13:13:20 < srk> jpa-: not really, but you realize quite early that you don't want to do webdesign 2018-06-11T13:13:24 < srk> cause it sucks balls 2018-06-11T13:14:01 < zyp> jpa-, by spending time on embedded, you don't have time to keep up with all the latest js libs 2018-06-11T13:14:30 < srk> Hamilton: fortunately there are ppl in our hackerspace who can do analog, PSUs, drivers.. they are not that good with coding which is why I don't have to be that good with analog :) 2018-06-11T13:14:31 < zyp> webdev is a clusterfuck, every time I want to do something web, everything has changed since last time I did something 2018-06-11T13:14:45 < srk> this :D 2018-06-11T13:14:49 < Steffanx> ^ that indeed 2018-06-11T13:15:39 < Hamilton> BrainDamage, Really? :| I always think the CS lies on infrastructure of analog...then who is to design the PSUs, antennas? 2018-06-11T13:15:44 < jpa-> zyp: yeah, i missed left-pad fiasco.. fortunately i had chance to observe a similar fiasco when some build system was made to download nanopb from my site every time some web app was built :P 2018-06-11T13:15:57 < zyp> did some updates to my store last year, I think I spent more time refactoring for library changes than I did making my own changes 2018-06-11T13:16:11 < BrainDamage> Hamilton: systems engineering analol is dying, it's being pushed to IC makers 2018-06-11T13:16:42 < BrainDamage> as in, the more integrated solutions let you omit a lot of analol design in modern boards 2018-06-11T13:16:44 < Hamilton> BrainDamage, so analol is not a typo ..damn :( sad news 2018-06-11T13:16:51 < zyp> I've been thinking about making some more updates this year, not really that tempted for another round of refactoring though 2018-06-11T13:17:40 < BrainDamage> You need to go to RF to get back to serious analol design, and even that is being eroded by ICs 2018-06-11T13:17:42 < Hamilton> I hate this trend of technology == CS or even worse web shit 2018-06-11T13:17:56 < Hamilton> Everywhere I look, people are talking about some new web-bases startup shit 2018-06-11T13:18:08 < Hamilton> like make your own salad, ice-cream, startup 2018-06-11T13:18:30 < BrainDamage> well, it's the latest craze, there's always bound to be one 2018-06-11T13:18:39 < BrainDamage> people see others successful and want to jump in 2018-06-11T13:18:55 < BrainDamage> neglecting the thousand others that failed, because observation bias 2018-06-11T13:19:14 < jpa-> also the marginal cost of making a website has fallen low enough that people try all kinds of crappy ideas 2018-06-11T13:19:41 < jpa-> in embedded if you want to try a crappy idea, you first have to kickstarter it 2018-06-11T13:19:42 < Hamilton> But I have a theory that this (technology == CS startup) craze is a made up bubble stirred by clue-less media 2018-06-11T13:19:54 < Hamilton> Like look what they did with blockchain and e-coin 2018-06-11T13:20:05 < jpa-> why do you follow media? 2018-06-11T13:20:41 < Hamilton> jpa-, I don't. However, the government and funders looks at it 2018-06-11T13:21:14 < jpa-> and you think they would be smarter without it? :P 2018-06-11T13:21:46 < jpa-> expecting the majority to understand your special interest area is going to fail every time 2018-06-11T13:22:42 < zyp> oh, since we're shitting on technology, I have a new internet of shit story for you 2018-06-11T13:22:58 < zyp> last night, I couldn't turn off the lights in my living room 2018-06-11T13:23:58 < zyp> brushed my teeth and was about to go to bed, told alexa to turn off the living room lights 2018-06-11T13:24:03 < zyp> "the device is not responding" 2018-06-11T13:24:25 < Hamilton> zyp, There is a twitter account :internetofshit 2018-06-11T13:25:06 < zyp> I have ikea lights, currently without any other control device, because alexa usually works :p 2018-06-11T13:25:14 < karlp> did you see the bit where they said, "I have a new internet of shit" story? 2018-06-11T13:26:20 < srk> zyp: which is why I'm running tcp servers on nodemcu :D 2018-06-11T13:26:27 < Hamilton> karlp, me? yes. Since shit is used here often, I though that account is not known here 2018-06-11T13:26:34 < Steffanx> dont you have the ikea app installed zyp? 2018-06-11T13:26:51 < zyp> Steffanx, yes, it didn't work 2018-06-11T13:26:58 < Steffanx> wut. the poor gateway 2018-06-11T13:27:13 < zyp> gateway worked, my mqtt to ikea gateway bridge worked 2018-06-11T13:27:26 < zyp> my alexa to mqtt bridge worked 2018-06-11T13:27:27 < Steffanx> Had many issues with it, but since the last update is all fine and dandy. 2018-06-11T13:27:38 < Steffanx> oh, 2018-06-11T13:27:49 < zyp> turned out the oauth server that my alexa skill relied on was down 2018-06-11T13:28:05 < zyp> and my pal that maintains that server were already asleep at the time 2018-06-11T13:28:23 < karlp> oauth is a fucking scam 2018-06-11T13:28:36 < karlp> almost as bad as openid 2018-06-11T13:28:44 < zyp> idk, protocol seems sane enough 2018-06-11T13:29:21 < zyp> we updated the server from debian 8 to 9 yesterday, that broke some of the deps the oauth server relied on 2018-06-11T13:29:23 < karlp> "We're goint to tell third parties about your activities, so we don't have to have an accounts db, but we sitll have to have an accounts db to store the third party information" 2018-06-11T13:30:01 < karlp> zero gain for site operator, big gain for oauth provider in metadata, marginal gain for end user to "not have to have another password/account" 2018-06-11T13:32:48 < zyp> it makes perfect sense to use oauth even without involving third parties though 2018-06-11T13:33:04 < karlp> care to elaborate? 2018-06-11T13:33:51 < zyp> API authentication, without having to pass credentials through the API 2018-06-11T13:34:27 < karlp> does that require you the customer to have the other half then? 2018-06-11T13:34:34 < karlp> cos that's never going to happen, that's like openid 2018-06-11T13:38:35 < zyp> imagine you have a service, and you have a client for that service, you need to log the client into the service somehow 2018-06-11T13:39:45 < zyp> without something like oauth, you'd have to enter your password into the service 2018-06-11T13:40:12 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/R9BrQuC.jpg 2018-06-11T13:40:14 < karlp> yes, for service to service things, sure, the mechanism is sound 2018-06-11T13:40:27 < karlp> the practice of oauth for account login on consumer websites however. 2018-06-11T13:40:30 < zyp> good, that's what I'm arguing 2018-06-11T13:41:02 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-11T13:41:13 < zyp> the oauth involved in my case is for the alexa client to authenticate against my home control service 2018-06-11T13:41:38 < zyp> I run both the oauth server and the service 2018-06-11T13:42:44 < srk> what do you use for the server? 2018-06-11T13:42:47 < zyp> as for the "log in with your whatever account", I've got a bit mixed opinion about that 2018-06-11T13:43:31 < zyp> I get the tracking concern, but on the other hand I think account linking is a cleaner solution than password managers 2018-06-11T13:43:55 < zyp> srk, some stuff my pal wrote 2018-06-11T13:44:11 < karlp> if it was more feasible for people to run their own accounts, like openid intended, but failed to make feasible, then sure 2018-06-11T13:44:30 < karlp> but when the options people have are "do you want to share your gmail, yoru facebook, or your github" I think we failed 2018-06-11T13:45:59 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-11T13:47:25 < zyp> karlp, but I mean, you're still talking about openid 2018-06-11T13:47:35 < jpa-> zyp: why not just api keys? 2018-06-11T13:48:10 < zyp> jpa-, I expected somebody to comment on that 2018-06-11T13:48:12 < karlp> I liked the idea of openid, it failed, oauth made lots of the same claims, and is generally used (by consumers) for what openid was intended. 2018-06-11T13:48:35 < zyp> karlp, openid connect is layered on top of oauth2 2018-06-11T13:48:55 < karlp> but that's the service-service portion, which we agreed is sound 2018-06-11T13:49:27 < zyp> jpa-, api keys are fine, but copypasting them manually is tedious, oauth2 is just a protocol to automate managing them 2018-06-11T13:49:58 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T13:50:57 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@2606:2e00:8003:10::1:ed6] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-11T14:02:10 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-11T14:13:16 < dongs> nice 2018-06-11T14:13:22 < dongs> tektronix $$$ scope apps are just .net 2018-06-11T14:13:27 < dongs> all unobfuscated 2018-06-11T14:13:36 < dongs> algorithm for parsing all the protocols and shit is all in the clear 2018-06-11T14:13:40 < dongs> ripe for IP stealing 2018-06-11T14:17:59 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/Xpo4lX95.html lolwow 2018-06-11T14:18:33 < dongs> next time your tek is taking a long time to decode some shit, you know why 2018-06-11T14:20:27 < Steffanx> :) 2018-06-11T14:21:33 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T14:21:33 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-11T14:21:33 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T14:21:45 < dongs> i wonder if a lot of this shit was some fucking matlab->C# autogenerated shit 2018-06-11T14:21:49 < dongs> nobody can be THAT STUPID right 2018-06-11T14:21:54 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T14:23:56 < Haohmaru> is that java? 2018-06-11T14:24:00 < dongs> C# 2018-06-11T14:24:09 < dongs> but it doesnt matter what language, the logic is obvious 2018-06-11T14:24:20 < Haohmaru> math.pow 2018-06-11T14:24:29 < Steffanx> Matlab cannot do to C# right? 2018-06-11T14:24:40 < dongs> no clue 2018-06-11T14:24:40 < Haohmaru> doos all of that really convert between double precision and integer? 2018-06-11T14:24:45 < dongs> yes 2018-06-11T14:24:48 < Haohmaru> pff 2018-06-11T14:24:54 < dongs> i mean the code literally does 2018-06-11T14:24:57 < zyp> matlab/simulink can do to C though 2018-06-11T14:24:57 < dongs> what the function is called 2018-06-11T14:25:00 < dongs> it reverses teh bits 2018-06-11T14:25:02 < zyp> my workstuff is full of that 2018-06-11T14:25:05 < dongs> i.e. 0xAAAA -> 0x5555 2018-06-11T14:25:15 < dongs> but it does it in the most bruteforce and retarded way possible 2018-06-11T14:25:28 < Haohmaru> and it uses pow and sh*t cuz it can't bitshift? 2018-06-11T14:25:32 < dongs> rite 2018-06-11T14:25:39 < dongs> i mean surely you can bitshift in C# 2018-06-11T14:25:53 < Haohmaru> couldn't they write it in a more suitable language? 2018-06-11T14:26:17 < Steffanx> Nah C# great, this code will turn into bitshifting. 2018-06-11T14:26:25 < Haohmaru> will it? 2018-06-11T14:26:28 < Steffanx> idk :P 2018-06-11T14:26:30 < dongs> Steffanx: uhhh this IS the compiled code 2018-06-11T14:26:34 < dongs> thats decompiled version 2018-06-11T14:26:43 < dongs> from the tek scope app 2018-06-11T14:26:43 < Haohmaru> wowz 2018-06-11T14:27:10 < Haohmaru> was it written by glued-together homeworks from teaching algorithms? 2018-06-11T14:27:31 < Steffanx> Yes, but it decompiles the IL, idk what it looks like in that language. 2018-06-11T14:27:50 < dongs> math.pow calls are same in any language 2018-06-11T14:27:57 < Haohmaru> have i told you how i hate the silly rigol 1052E? 2018-06-11T14:28:11 < Steffanx> how do you hate it? 2018-06-11T14:28:23 < Haohmaru> such much 2018-06-11T14:28:24 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/4qsQEU49.html 2018-06-11T14:28:25 < dongs> haha 2018-06-11T14:28:28 < dongs> float64 2018-06-11T14:28:34 < dongs> well, i guess yeah thats waht a double is 2018-06-11T14:28:46 < zyp> dongs, C# doesn't have a pow operator? 2018-06-11T14:29:06 < Haohmaru> it has but they really need bitshifting for what they were doing 2018-06-11T14:29:09 < dongs> you mean caret? 2018-06-11T14:29:10 < zyp> hmm, doesn't look like 2018-06-11T14:29:17 < zyp> no, caret is usually xor 2018-06-11T14:29:29 < Haohmaru> coz calling pow(double, double) is kinda such much overkill 2018-06-11T14:29:46 < zyp> doesn't look like C# has pow operator, and caret is xor 2018-06-11T14:30:09 < Steffanx> Time to run tekware on mono. 2018-06-11T14:30:45 < karlp> catch allll the exceptions 2018-06-11T14:32:01 < Laurenceb> muh gui 2018-06-11T14:34:21 < srk> so how many like major versions of IP blocks are there? looks like old gen F1/F2/F4/L1 uses one set and new gen F0/F3/F7/L0/L4 another one with minor differences 2018-06-11T14:35:17 < karlp> you're thinking too coarsely 2018-06-11T14:35:18 < zyp> depends on the particular peripheral 2018-06-11T14:35:23 < karlp> each peripheral has it's own gnerations 2018-06-11T14:35:33 < karlp> mcus are then composed of ~most recent of each 2018-06-11T14:35:38 < srk> clustered according to number of peripheral register (UART/SPI/I2C) it seems to match https://paste.vpsfree.cz/ZKF:1mFs/ 2018-06-11T14:35:54 < srk> karlp: I see, are these compatible? 2018-06-11T14:36:03 < karlp> sometimes 2018-06-11T14:36:05 < zyp> srk, to varying degrees 2018-06-11T14:36:08 < karlp> st publishes migration guides 2018-06-11T14:36:25 < srk> for example if I parse load all the .svd files I need to make an union of the peripheral registers to get a complete picture 2018-06-11T14:36:40 < srk> as some of these contain bonus features 2018-06-11T14:36:42 < srk> or so? 2018-06-11T14:36:44 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-11T14:37:04 < karlp> you will have conflicts 2018-06-11T14:37:20 < karlp> but hey, go knock yourself out with multilayered haskell or something I'm sure it will be just fine 2018-06-11T14:37:26 < zyp> peripheral addresses might also be different between different chips even having the same version peripheral 2018-06-11T14:37:35 < srk> like if the periph driver only use the "core" functionallity will it work across family? 2018-06-11T14:37:39 < karlp> srk: no. 2018-06-11T14:37:45 < srk> karlp: exactly, multilayered 2018-06-11T14:37:51 < karlp> well, for the same periph version, yes 2018-06-11T14:38:02 < srk> code that generates family support code for code that generates code 2018-06-11T14:38:13 < srk> cause why not 2018-06-11T14:38:30 < karlp> largely, the only thing that matters is the periph version, 2018-06-11T14:38:33 < srk> cubeMX db has version info 2018-06-11T14:38:40 < srk> but I want to decimate it a bit 2018-06-11T14:38:41 < karlp> the actual cpu is largely irrelevant 2018-06-11T14:38:46 < zyp> srk, take a look at this: https://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/gpio/gpio.h 2018-06-11T14:38:47 < srk> yup 2018-06-11T14:38:59 < zyp> stm32f1 has GPIOv1, everything else has GPIOv2 2018-06-11T14:39:09 < zyp> lines 6-27 shows register differences 2018-06-11T14:39:23 < karlp> it's not always as obvious as that though :) 2018-06-11T14:39:27 < zyp> then look at lines 202-231 2018-06-11T14:39:29 < srk> I see, we've hit that before :D 2018-06-11T14:40:04 < zyp> look at how GPIOA is at different addresses in stm32f3, stm32f4 and stm32l0, despite them all being GPIOv2 instances 2018-06-11T14:40:25 < srk> we've ported ivory/tower to f0/f3/f7/l4 and also f1 where we couldn't get blink to run due to different gpio :D 2018-06-11T14:40:45 < karlp> wat? haskell didn't purely abstract that? ;) 2018-06-11T14:40:58 < srk> addresses are not a problem, available in svd files 2018-06-11T14:41:07 < srk> can already generate memory maps 2018-06-11T14:41:21 < srk> karlp: do you even kwow what pure code means? 2018-06-11T14:41:35 < karlp> it means cs nerds are happy with it, independent of functionality 2018-06-11T14:41:46 < srk> and no, a programming language will not invent drivers for another peripherals 2018-06-11T14:41:49 < zyp> "pure code" sounds kinda nazi 2018-06-11T14:41:59 < srk> not really 2018-06-11T14:42:04 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I6kMUKZoxU 2018-06-11T14:42:05 < srk> it's a code without side-effects 2018-06-11T14:42:14 < karlp> ones you can optimize out then right? 2018-06-11T14:42:20 < srk> as simple as not doing IO everywhere 2018-06-11T14:42:31 < srk> yeah, with rm -rf 2018-06-11T14:42:34 < srk> as most of your OOP code 2018-06-11T14:42:35 < srk> ;) 2018-06-11T14:42:45 < zyp> "only aryan code is allowed in my mcu" 2018-06-11T14:42:56 < srk> lal 2018-06-11T14:43:13 < Laurenceb> c code uprising 2018-06-11T14:43:23 < Steffanx> Sieg Keil. \o/ 2018-06-11T14:43:31 < zyp> hahaha 2018-06-11T14:44:02 < srk> I do generate C code cause I'm too lazy to write it :P 2018-06-11T14:44:17 < karlp> how does debugging work? 2018-06-11T14:44:19 < srk> and cause it sucks writing it 2018-06-11T14:44:26 < srk> same 2018-06-11T14:44:29 < karlp> does gdb give you source lines of your ivory/haskell/tower/whatsit 2018-06-11T14:44:30 < srk> gdb, print 2018-06-11T14:44:33 < srk> x 2018-06-11T14:44:34 < srk> c 2018-06-11T14:44:35 < karlp> or you debug the c code? 2018-06-11T14:44:35 < srk> stuff.. 2018-06-11T14:44:38 < srk> c code 2018-06-11T14:44:45 < karlp> wat 2018-06-11T14:44:54 < srk> yeah, you only need to print variables 2018-06-11T14:45:00 < karlp> you do alllll this work, and still have to debug the generated code? 2018-06-11T14:45:06 < srk> of some of the state machines 2018-06-11T14:45:13 < karlp> I mena, way less bugs, because haskell, but still. 2018-06-11T14:45:17 < srk> not really 2018-06-11T14:45:23 < srk> there are no bugs in teh code itself 2018-06-11T14:45:29 < karlp> indeed. haskell is pure 2018-06-11T14:45:36 < srk> but you can still write stuff that does a wrong thing 2018-06-11T14:46:26 < srk> so at first it's quite handy that you can print variable via gdb, if you're not sure if you're getting data from a SPI device 2018-06-11T14:46:52 < srk> after a while you don't load code to MCU everytime it compiles because you just know it's gonna run :) 2018-06-11T14:47:21 < srk> and you can run some stuff on POSIX 2018-06-11T14:47:29 < invzim> any way to cause a hard-fault from c easily? 2018-06-11T14:47:36 < karlp> I like how there's "no bugs in the code" but "you can still write things that do the wrong thing" 2018-06-11T14:47:43 < karlp> isn't that what's called, I dunno, a bug? 2018-06-11T14:47:47 < zyp> after a while you don't even bother writing the code because you know it's gonna be perfect 2018-06-11T14:47:55 < srk> ^^ 2018-06-11T14:47:58 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/TJct7FU <- Alabama 2018-06-11T14:48:07 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-11T14:48:13 < karlp> invzim: null pointer deref works normally 2018-06-11T14:48:15 < srk> zyp: you just connect channels of otherwise perfect building blocks 2018-06-11T14:48:34 < karlp> or deref out side ram/flash if you want to get tricksy 2018-06-11T14:48:52 < zyp> karlp, null pointer deref is undefined :) 2018-06-11T14:49:01 < karlp> or cast some ram as a function and execute it to get invalid instructions 2018-06-11T14:49:18 < zyp> did you see the code I compiled yesterday? 2018-06-11T14:49:41 < srk> karlp: I mean it's close to "if it compiles it works" but that also depends on a definition of works :) 2018-06-11T14:50:36 < srk> it offers intersting properties, that's it :) 2018-06-11T14:50:57 < karlp> I wish I could like it more, you've done a pretty poor job of selling it the last few months :) 2018-06-11T14:50:57 < invzim> I'm working on my bootloader and want to throw in some tricks 2018-06-11T14:51:40 < srk> karlp: hehe, hell-of-lot-of-work lately 2018-06-11T14:52:57 < srk> I'll generate a complete support for teh stm32 family so that's gonna be big :D 2018-06-11T14:54:56 < jpa-> karlp: usually on stm32, null pointer deref doesn't cause hardfault 2018-06-11T14:55:23 < karlp> thought it did on my stuff, but ok, if you say so. 2018-06-11T14:55:47 < karlp> migth have been null function poitners, 2018-06-11T14:55:51 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/o8FH8 <- this would 2018-06-11T14:56:42 < karlp> is htat not a null poitner deref? 2018-06-11T14:56:57 < zyp> it's an optimized one :) 2018-06-11T14:57:09 < jpa-> ah yeah, write to null pointer would hardfault indeed 2018-06-11T14:57:13 < jpa-> just reading it wouldn't 2018-06-11T14:57:21 < zyp> hmm, let's see 2018-06-11T14:57:57 < jpa-> but yeah, gcc might assume it does 2018-06-11T14:59:04 < invzim> good stuff, will have a play 2018-06-11T14:59:27 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/yRDlY <- yup 2018-06-11T14:59:58 < invzim> load a file with pointer values, jump or use the correct one based on something in the file - should be pretty annoying to reverse engineer without said file 2018-06-11T15:00:15 < zyp> I love how the first one is "fuck writing 123, just write 0, nobody will know the difference" 2018-06-11T15:00:35 < zyp> and the second one is "fuck putting the result in r0, just stick it in r3" 2018-06-11T15:00:53 < Laurenceb> I'm so scared https://imgur.com/6G5UKVA 2018-06-11T15:01:26 < zyp> Laurenceb, are they coming for your butter knife? 2018-06-11T15:02:39 < Laurenceb> yup 2018-06-11T15:03:02 < Laurenceb> those PCs are for checking for naughty tweets 2018-06-11T15:06:29 < Laurenceb> my sides https://imgur.com/syVDErp 2018-06-11T15:07:24 < Cracki> wow they all look actually british 2018-06-11T15:08:35 < Steffanx> Does this guy look british to you Cracki? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erwtQFfFNTQ 2018-06-11T15:08:46 < Steffanx> Not hte first older guy, the other one. 2018-06-11T15:09:07 < Cracki> the lanky white collar? 2018-06-11T15:09:11 < Cracki> not sure, might be. 2018-06-11T15:09:23 < Cracki> it would be plausible 2018-06-11T15:09:30 < Laurenceb> 1/8th Syrian, 50% murimutt represent 2018-06-11T15:09:33 < Steffanx> Did you read the title of the vid? :P 2018-06-11T15:09:45 < Cracki> fascinating 2018-06-11T15:09:49 < Cracki> I did now :P 2018-06-11T15:10:39 < Laurenceb> muh heritage 2018-06-11T15:10:47 < Cracki> >ties back in to... raccoons wat 2018-06-11T15:11:07 < zyp> haha 2018-06-11T15:11:08 < Steffanx> rockoon. 2018-06-11T15:11:28 < Cracki> little rocks, ic 2018-06-11T15:12:02 < karlp> what happens when the udf is executed again? 2018-06-11T15:12:32 < zyp> karlp, I'm not arguing it won't fault :) 2018-06-11T15:12:56 < karlp> wass't arguinging, just curious what actually happened :) 2018-06-11T15:13:20 < karlp> it seems pretty precious that gcc will generate a udf, and then just not tell you it though :) 2018-06-11T15:13:37 < zyp> apparently udf is a "permanently undefined" instruction 2018-06-11T15:13:52 < zyp> i.e. the whole purpose of it is to make an undefined instruction fault 2018-06-11T15:16:57 < englishman> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0553a/CIHJJEIH.html 2018-06-11T15:16:58 < englishman> neat 2018-06-11T15:17:30 < englishman> oh that doesnt work 2018-06-11T15:23:27 < zyp> Laurenceb, did you ever get any further with that rockoon stuff? 2018-06-11T15:23:48 < Laurenceb> zyp: a bit, but no tiem, too busy shitposting 2018-06-11T15:23:55 < Laurenceb> somewhere I have a gif.... 2018-06-11T15:34:13 < Laurenceb> https://gfycat.com/SaneVengefulKakarikis 2018-06-11T15:34:14 < Laurenceb> there 2018-06-11T15:34:40 < Laurenceb> there was an issue with the igniter catching, solved that now 2018-06-11T15:35:11 < Laurenceb> also it has weird negative thrust which causes it to fly down after leaving the tube, thats due to atmospheric pressure 2018-06-11T15:36:57 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-11T15:37:54 < dongs> not due to emdrive? 2018-06-11T15:38:11 < Laurenceb> muh emdrive 2018-06-11T15:38:24 < Laurenceb> I need to do vacuum chamber tests on the igniters 2018-06-11T15:38:36 < Laurenceb> that could be tricky, but its a solved problem 2018-06-11T15:38:55 < Laurenceb> unlike launching and stabilisation which has never been solved before 2018-06-11T15:39:13 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T15:39:19 < Steffanx> That gif is from 2016 or something like that? 2018-06-11T15:39:33 < Laurenceb> 2017 2018-06-11T15:39:48 < Steffanx> yes i see, google said it 2018-06-11T15:39:55 < zyp> I think I've seen it before 2018-06-11T15:40:03 < Laurenceb> huh google knows?! 2018-06-11T15:40:22 < Laurenceb> ah yes lol 2018-06-11T15:40:54 < Laurenceb> anyways feel free to steal ideaz, I dont care :P 2018-06-11T15:43:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-11T15:53:57 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-11T16:02:25 < Laurenceb> https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-fragile-phallus-tickets-46012236839 2018-06-11T16:02:26 < Laurenceb> wew 2018-06-11T16:06:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T16:06:12 < Laurenceb> making the emdrive conference look sane 2018-06-11T16:13:57 < dongs> POUND ME TOO 2018-06-11T16:14:19 < kakimir> pounders 2018-06-11T16:14:33 < kakimir> ##pound32 2018-06-11T16:18:15 < Laurenceb> do you have an anxious relation to the psychical emblem known as ‘the phallus’? 2018-06-11T16:19:03 < kakimir> do you? 2018-06-11T16:20:05 < Laurenceb> I dont even know what to make of that sentence 2018-06-11T16:20:07 < kakimir> lets have some coffee> 2018-06-11T16:20:32 < kakimir> I think it's a penis Laurenceb 2018-06-11T16:20:48 < Laurenceb> its so much more than that 2018-06-11T16:20:55 < Laurenceb> its the meaning of the universe itself 2018-06-11T16:21:10 < kakimir> you need less free time 2018-06-11T16:21:42 < BrainDamage> are you spinning the rocket in the tube or does it have a nozzle that redirects a part of the jet? 2018-06-11T16:22:01 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage: it has a nozzle extension 2018-06-11T16:22:25 < Laurenceb> so it starts spinning inside the tube, problem was there was a bit of igniter jammed in the extension 2018-06-11T16:22:35 < BrainDamage> you could just let it drop from the tube 2018-06-11T16:22:43 < Laurenceb> thats why is asymmetric 2018-06-11T16:23:10 < Laurenceb> the tube helps stop it tipping over over the first few rotations 2018-06-11T16:24:21 < Laurenceb> its basically a clone of this http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/DD05+-+Type+63.html 2018-06-11T16:24:55 < Laurenceb> but with nozzle extension that falls off 2018-06-11T16:24:57 < englishman> >never been done before 2018-06-11T16:25:00 < englishman> >it's a clone of this 2018-06-11T16:25:00 < BrainDamage> which is a clone of a WW2 nebelwerfer 2018-06-11T16:25:07 < Laurenceb> yeah 2018-06-11T16:26:11 < Laurenceb> with balloon launch you need high spin rate as soon as possible after launch, its a bit different to ground to ground rockets 2018-06-11T16:26:33 < Laurenceb> hence the extension that drops off 2018-06-11T16:26:50 < BrainDamage> I assume fin spin would be extremely shit in terms of drag 2018-06-11T16:27:00 < Laurenceb> itd work fine 2018-06-11T16:27:13 < Laurenceb> but the thing would be doing loops like a plate of spahetti 2018-06-11T16:27:29 < Laurenceb> as at 38km altitude it needs ~mach 1 before the fins work properly 2018-06-11T16:28:00 < Laurenceb> with a thrust vectored stage 1 and fin stabilised stage 2 it might work 2018-06-11T16:28:03 < BrainDamage> ah right, i forgot it launches where the atmosphere is really thin 2018-06-11T16:28:10 < Laurenceb> but thats a lot of stuff to get working properly 2018-06-11T16:28:55 < Laurenceb> there is a german hobbiest guy who got a ~80cm tall thrust vectored rocket working, quite impressive imo 2018-06-11T16:29:06 < Laurenceb> using v high speed servos with overvoltage 2018-06-11T16:29:21 < Laurenceb> then the control system modelled the servo response 2018-06-11T16:29:34 < Laurenceb> the problem is that small stuff is v twitchy 2018-06-11T16:29:41 < BrainDamage> Is it mounted on an extremely loud pulsejet engine? 2018-06-11T16:29:54 < Laurenceb> heh 2018-06-11T16:30:04 < BrainDamage> with an airplane-like shape, and it detaches when it's in the proximity of London? 2018-06-11T16:30:39 < BrainDamage> yeah, any small asperity is comparably really large on a small object 2018-06-11T16:30:39 < Laurenceb> tbh I'd say its a tie between spin stabilised tube launch and two stage with thrust vectored first stage 2018-06-11T16:30:54 < Laurenceb> in terms of how easy it is to do 2018-06-11T16:31:19 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T16:34:20 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-11T16:34:27 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-11T16:36:05 < dongs> https://www.freelancer.com/projects/machine-learning/Design-custom-tablet-preferably/ 2018-06-11T16:36:46 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T16:41:43 -!- Steffann [~quassel@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T16:41:43 -!- Steffann [~quassel@524834A0.cm-4-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-11T16:41:43 -!- Steffann [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T16:41:45 -!- Steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-11T17:01:52 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2018-06-11T17:03:07 < veverak> wow 2018-06-11T17:03:10 < veverak> got ne cubemx 2018-06-11T17:03:20 < veverak> it can generate working makefiles now O_o 2018-06-11T17:07:08 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T17:09:16 < karlp> no more duplicate files? 2018-06-11T17:09:21 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-11T17:09:26 < karlp> pretty braindead it got released without fixing that :) 2018-06-11T17:09:27 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-11T17:09:39 < veverak> yup 2018-06-11T17:16:01 < invzim> this may sound contrived, but has anyone made a program that runs entirely in ram and executed it via usb dfu? 2018-06-11T17:19:49 < dongs> why not? 2018-06-11T17:19:55 < dongs> just link it for running from ram 2018-06-11T17:20:01 < dongs> then dfu, and jump to it i guess 2018-06-11T17:20:33 < dongs> are you trying to make your device-id-over-usb leecher? 2018-06-11T17:25:31 < invzim> nah, bootloader stuff - I need to write some hashes/keys to flash - and would rather not that code be present in the actual bootloader 2018-06-11T17:26:25 < Cracki> dfu seems capable of downloading directly to ram 2018-06-11T17:27:02 * Cracki .oO( up is down and down is up ) 2018-06-11T17:27:29 < invzim> in theory it seems doable, but don't want to spend days struggling with tools to find it doesn't work 2018-06-11T17:28:05 < invzim> alternative could be to zero out parts of the code I don't want present after they've executed 2018-06-11T17:29:50 < dongs> uhh struggle with what tools 2018-06-11T17:30:02 < dongs> i think in keil its literally one place change 2018-06-11T17:30:09 < dongs> to retarget your project to run in ram 2018-06-11T17:30:36 < dongs> i mean doesnt your IDE come with a ram-blinky script? 2018-06-11T17:30:40 < dongs> er script = example 2018-06-11T17:30:44 < dongs> just copy that and add your code 2018-06-11T17:31:32 < invzim> it's the usb stuff that is key, I want program boards without fitting a swd header 2018-06-11T17:31:38 < invzim> want to 2018-06-11T17:33:09 < Cracki> note that "run in ram" means "load from flash, exeucte in ram" to some people 2018-06-11T17:33:14 < dongs> no 2018-06-11T17:33:23 < dongs> run in ram fucking means upload and run from ram 2018-06-11T17:34:09 < Cracki> sure, but that might not be how everyone understands it, so there's room for misunderstanding 2018-06-11T17:34:30 < Cracki> run just means run, doesn't say where the code comes from 2018-06-11T17:35:00 < invzim> I want to upload code tom ram via usb dfu, then execute it, in ram :) 2018-06-11T17:35:45 < Cracki> yes, that was clear ;) 2018-06-11T17:41:04 < dongs> is this on f0? 2018-06-11T17:41:11 < invzim> f401 2018-06-11T17:41:18 < dongs> 401 has usb dfu...? 2018-06-11T17:41:26 < dongs> does it even have usb>/ 2018-06-11T17:41:39 < dongs> anyway, f0 is neat cuz it enters dfu wehn flash is blank 2018-06-11T17:41:48 < dongs> so you can easily flash new boards like that 2018-06-11T17:42:02 < invzim> yes it has usb, host and device :) 2018-06-11T17:45:56 < bitmask> The controller may have a little voice while working. 2018-06-11T17:46:01 < bitmask> is that supposed to mean noise? 2018-06-11T17:46:03 < bitmask> :P 2018-06-11T17:46:13 < karlp> probably 2018-06-11T17:46:31 < bitmask> cheap china shitz 2018-06-11T17:46:53 < Cracki> someone said f4 have more noise on the ADCs than f3 2018-06-11T17:47:01 < Cracki> f4 seems to be older than f3 2018-06-11T17:47:26 < kakimir> lpc1111 has no noise issues 2018-06-11T17:47:33 < karlp> f4 early adcs had more noise, it's even on the errata 2018-06-11T17:47:42 < Cracki> aye, errata 2018-06-11T17:47:54 < kakimir> stm32 has better errata 2018-06-11T17:49:12 < kakimir> in lpc world only if bug can potentially straight away fuck your project it's meantioned 2018-06-11T17:49:22 < kakimir> else is to "figure it out" 2018-06-11T17:50:22 < Steffanx> Worst thing of lpc is the change of their community/documentation platform 2018-06-11T17:50:37 < kakimir> something like "hey.. i2c1 doesn't work - workaround: none" 2018-06-11T17:50:42 < Steffanx> Sooo many links to the old website. And no proper redirect 2018-06-11T17:50:46 < Steffanx> S 2018-06-11T17:50:59 < kakimir> wait for potential qualcomm integration 2018-06-11T17:52:28 < Steffanx> Nah, that deal is still not concluded. 2018-06-11T17:54:19 < Steffanx> I believe the chinese havent cleared it yet. 2018-06-11T17:55:46 < zyp> international mail is so fast 2018-06-11T17:56:13 < Steffanx> ... 2018-06-11T17:56:14 < zyp> found a return in the mail today, for some shit I sent in january 2018-06-11T17:56:20 < Steffanx> Hah. 2018-06-11T17:56:36 < zyp> seems like it got returned because it didn't get picked up in time 2018-06-11T17:57:08 < zyp> at least that's what I guess «Délai expire» means 2018-06-11T17:57:22 < mawk> I think that the stm32xx datasheet isn't complicated enough 2018-06-11T17:57:36 < mawk> why put the information at a single place when you can scatter it everywhere 2018-06-11T17:58:38 < Steffanx> The receiving party never complained, zyp? 2018-06-11T17:58:45 < zyp> no 2018-06-11T17:58:48 < mawk> délai expiré 2018-06-11T17:58:54 < mawk> means expirated delay 2018-06-11T17:58:59 < Steffanx> Je ne parle pas frainçais. 2018-06-11T17:59:09 < zyp> mawk, who would have guessed 2018-06-11T17:59:14 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-11T17:59:26 < mawk> but at least you have a certified answer now 2018-06-11T17:59:28 < mawk> not just a guess 2018-06-11T17:59:40 < dongs> zyp: i get those every few months 2018-06-11T17:59:47 < dongs> since i ship a bunch of shit out 2018-06-11T17:59:59 < dongs> even 150 yen airmail stuff eventually makes it back 2018-06-11T18:00:10 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_PMOZ9bBo 2018-06-11T18:00:25 < zyp> it seems like most shit I send that doesn't arrive just disappears somewhere on the way 2018-06-11T18:00:42 < mawk> postmen steal it often 2018-06-11T18:01:01 < mawk> one time I had some package from the US with a regular customs paper on it, stating that the package was worth around $300 2018-06-11T18:01:09 < zyp> I think this is the only return I've had, except for when the sorting robots were confusing the sender and recepient addrs and sent a bunch of shit back to me 2018-06-11T18:01:24 < mawk> I received from mail from the mail company saying that the driver got the package "stolen" from him 2018-06-11T18:04:05 < mawk> and the mail ended in "we look forward to making business with you again" 2018-06-11T18:06:17 < zyp> :) 2018-06-11T18:07:15 < Cracki> so... stolen and no insurance, no replacement, they just burned your money? 2018-06-11T18:07:52 < mawk> yes Cracki 2018-06-11T18:08:03 < zyp> should be sender's responsibility, shouldn't it? 2018-06-11T18:08:18 < mawk> yeah but the legality of the package was questionable so I didn't try to recover 2018-06-11T18:08:49 < Cracki> questionable... 2018-06-11T18:09:00 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-11T18:09:02 < Cracki> if it's questionable, why the fuck did they write a value on it 2018-06-11T18:09:30 < mawk> I guess it was legal in the US 2018-06-11T18:09:33 < zyp> I don't bother with insured shipping or anything, if any of my customers complain about stuff not showing up, I just ship them another 2018-06-11T18:09:40 < mawk> but there are other small details that made me not try to recover the money 2018-06-11T18:10:08 < zyp> it's cheaper and easier for me to just factor a bit of loss into the price of the thing rather than having to deal with insured shipping 2018-06-11T18:10:24 < mawk> it's a quantum legality: until I check the real scheduling status in my country of the drugs that were in the package, I'll say that the legality was questionable 2018-06-11T18:10:27 < mawk> yeah it's super expensive 2018-06-11T18:10:37 < dongs> i suggest my shop users to use ems if order is >$100 2018-06-11T18:10:40 < mawk> up to 30% the price or something, last time I shipped something 2018-06-11T18:10:43 < dongs> or if theyt're from a shitty country known to lose mail 2018-06-11T18:10:57 < dongs> and my airmail checkout has a warning that says i'm not responsible for lost shit 2018-06-11T18:11:01 < dongs> seesm to work pretty good 2018-06-11T18:11:06 < dongs> actual real loss is quite low anyway 2018-06-11T18:11:19 < zyp> the problem is norway doesn't have any sort of reasonably priced EMS or whatnot 2018-06-11T18:11:28 < dongs> yeah sounds like usa 2018-06-11T18:11:34 < dongs> minimum price for EMS small box is like $560 2018-06-11T18:11:36 < dongs> er $50 2018-06-11T18:11:37 < dongs> fuck off 2018-06-11T18:11:38 < mawk> lol 2018-06-11T18:12:09 < invzim> zyp: you ship as letter or parcel? 2018-06-11T18:12:14 < zyp> letter 2018-06-11T18:12:28 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-11T18:12:31 < zyp> invzim, I use this: https://www.bring.no/sende/post/blandede-formater 2018-06-11T18:13:51 < zyp> before that, I just used plain old stamps 2018-06-11T18:14:10 < dongs> Ja / Nei 2018-06-11T18:14:29 < invzim> yeah, used stamps before - had one unit lost in mail out of 650 or so 2018-06-11T18:14:36 < dongs> LOGG INN 2018-06-11T18:14:48 < zyp> it's fucking tedious to be putting stamps on a bunch of shipments 2018-06-11T18:14:57 < dongs> do you ahve to lick each one 2018-06-11T18:15:09 < invzim> only if you want to 2018-06-11T18:15:09 < zyp> with this shit I just count/weigh them and pay for average weight 2018-06-11T18:15:13 < Cracki> label printer? 2018-06-11T18:15:17 < zyp> of course 2018-06-11T18:15:30 < invzim> zyp: your volume is probably way higher than mine :) 2018-06-11T18:16:05 < zyp> eh, if you've done 650, you're in the same ballpark 2018-06-11T18:16:19 < invzim> but sending stuff out of norway a PITA and or expensive 2018-06-11T18:17:02 < invzim> TOTAL, not per year :) 2018-06-11T18:17:14 < zyp> yeah, that's what I also mean 2018-06-11T18:19:53 < invzim> would be awesome if I had a hobby/interest where I could make/sell stuff and actually live off it 2018-06-11T18:20:54 < zyp> I wouldn't say «post med blandede formater» a PITA, and it's not really that expensive either 2018-06-11T18:21:13 < zyp> typically 20-25 NOK per shipment 2018-06-11T18:21:39 < zyp> my webstore generates suitable labels directly with customs and everything prefilled 2018-06-11T18:21:43 < invzim> if I somehow could invoice 50k to get VAT registered, I would probably use bring 2018-06-11T18:22:02 < zyp> there's no VAT on international shipments 2018-06-11T18:22:08 < zyp> they don't charge VAT on it 2018-06-11T18:22:25 < zyp> which has a fun side effect 2018-06-11T18:22:29 < invzim> not even for their 'services'? 2018-06-11T18:23:14 < zyp> «post med blandede formater» has a minimum order of 150 NOK 2018-06-11T18:23:56 < zyp> if whatever I send comes out as 130 NOK, they add a 20 NOK padding which VAT is due on 2018-06-11T18:24:04 < zyp> so then it comes out to 155 NOK total 2018-06-11T18:24:55 < zyp> but that's not a problem 2018-06-11T18:25:29 < invzim> but I really do want to get VAT registered to avoid 25% on everything going into norway 2018-06-11T18:25:51 < invzim> and avoid some of the stupid fees carriers charge 2018-06-11T18:25:55 < zyp> true 2018-06-11T18:26:33 < zyp> I don't think you get rid of the handling fees, you normally just get the 25% refunded after the fact, as far as I understand 2018-06-11T18:27:08 < invzim> nah, they changed it - if you're VAT registered your responsible to pay it directly yourself 2018-06-11T18:27:18 < zyp> who changed what? 2018-06-11T18:27:37 < zyp> and when? 2018-06-11T18:27:52 < invzim> https://www.visma.no/blogg/nye-regler-merverdiavgift-import-2017/ 2018-06-11T18:28:11 < invzim> so the 25% goes to the tax guys, not via the customs guys 2018-06-11T18:28:14 < invzim> directly 2018-06-11T18:29:34 < invzim> https://www.skatteetaten.no/presse/nyhetsrommet/nye-mva-regler-ved-import--forste-innlevering-10.-april/ 2018-06-11T18:29:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-11T18:29:47 < dongs> rip zyp 2018-06-11T18:29:51 < dongs> for not knowing tax info 2018-06-11T18:30:09 < zyp> I'm not VAT registered either, so it doesn't apply to me 2018-06-11T18:35:31 < zyp> invzim, hmm, not convinced it's an advantage, sounds like extra paperwork 2018-06-11T18:47:35 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T18:52:56 < Laurenceb> sheet 2018-06-11T18:53:01 < Laurenceb> gui is still segfaulting 2018-06-11T18:53:03 < Laurenceb> shit sucks 2018-06-11T18:54:19 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/v8ECgfhK this freaking function 2018-06-11T18:54:52 < Laurenceb> tfw I have flow diagrams that wont fit on A3 sheets 2018-06-11T18:55:44 < Steffanx> LOLOL "this freaking function" 2018-06-11T18:55:53 < Steffanx> > posts 155 lines of inreadable code 2018-06-11T18:56:34 < Laurenceb> okr 2018-06-11T18:56:42 < Laurenceb> *ikr 2018-06-11T18:57:03 < Laurenceb> something broke somewhere 2018-06-11T18:57:21 < Steffanx> You know you can step-debug with Qt Creat0r right? 2018-06-11T18:57:38 < Laurenceb> yeah but then it breaks differently 2018-06-11T18:57:42 < Laurenceb> as its timing critical 2018-06-11T18:58:42 < Laurenceb> thought I had fixed it this morning, but no 2018-06-11T18:58:47 < Steffanx> jadew, your complaining about Thunderbird not being able to sort accounts made me try MailBird. Must say i like the simplicity. 2018-06-11T18:58:57 < Laurenceb> SPECIALVAL is being sent for no apparent reason 2018-06-11T18:59:19 < jadew> Steffanx, thanks, I'll check it out 2018-06-11T18:59:28 < Steffanx> not free though 2018-06-11T19:01:12 < jadew> looks like an electron app - is that what it is? 2018-06-11T19:01:16 < jadew> (not that it's a problem) 2018-06-11T19:01:22 < Laurenceb> free as in aids 2018-06-11T19:01:45 < jadew> btw, I never understood "free as in beer" 2018-06-11T19:01:54 < jadew> like beer is ever free 2018-06-11T19:02:02 < Laurenceb> holy shit SIGBUS 2018-06-11T19:02:08 < Laurenceb> thats a new level of fail 2018-06-11T19:02:21 < Laurenceb> 0x7ffff585845b <+0x013b> 4c 8b 6d 08 mov 0x8(%rbp),%r13 2018-06-11T19:02:24 < Steffanx> Google claims it's C#, jadew 2018-06-11T19:02:25 < Laurenceb> debugger delivers 2018-06-11T19:03:35 < Laurenceb> at least on stm32 gdb actually tells me whats wrong 2018-06-11T19:05:11 < Steffanx> Based on the shitload of DLLs i see, it's C# for sure, jadew 2018-06-11T19:05:20 < jadew> Steffanx, heh 2018-06-11T19:05:20 < Steffanx> or VB.NET 2018-06-11T19:05:45 < karlp> jadew: yeah, I've never understood teh "free as in beer" statement either 2018-06-11T19:06:10 < englishman> as in, any "free" beer isnt worth it in the end. like opensource 2018-06-11T19:06:11 < Steffanx> " // ISSUE: unable to decompile the method." how sad. 2018-06-11T19:06:21 < jadew> lol englishman 2018-06-11T19:06:35 < jadew> karlp, I'm glad to know I'm not alone in that 2018-06-11T19:06:54 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T19:07:36 < jadew> the comparison to "free as in speach" is also strange - is it referring to free speach or to the fact that you can talk... easily? 2018-06-11T19:07:38 < Steffanx> I just paid for it. Googled a 50% off coupon, so was only 2 Spencer Holiday Ale beers 2018-06-11T19:07:57 < Steffanx> it's that you can talk freely :P 2018-06-11T19:08:34 < Steffanx> but it doesnt mean that you can force us to listen to it. 2018-06-11T19:09:10 < jadew> I take it nobody here understands what those expressions mean? 2018-06-11T19:09:34 < Steffanx> And Speech :P 2018-06-11T19:09:57 < Steffanx> oh, Speach is actually a word. Google says it's the obsolete form of speech. 2018-06-11T19:10:01 < Steffanx> and google is right 2018-06-11T19:10:18 < jadew> right, thanks 2018-06-11T19:10:32 < jadew> I had it right the first time and corrected it 2018-06-11T19:10:32 < karlp> speak and all.. 2018-06-11T19:10:45 < Steffanx> speek :) 2018-06-11T19:11:14 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T19:12:01 < jadew> I'm gonna go to #gnu and ask wth free as in beer and free as in speech means 2018-06-11T19:12:31 < jadew> actually, let me google that first 2018-06-11T19:12:34 < karlp> they'll tell you that beer is handed out but you can't own it, and speech is free 2018-06-11T19:12:42 < jadew> lol 2018-06-11T19:12:44 < karlp> I just hate it and think it's a bad analogy and terribly unclear 2018-06-11T19:13:04 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T19:13:05 < karlp> fucking gnutards 2018-06-11T19:13:07 < karlp> not free anyway 2018-06-11T19:13:20 < jadew> niether is free 2018-06-11T19:13:22 < karlp> free to do things this very explicit way and only that way. 2018-06-11T19:13:44 < jadew> even the freedom of speech had to be won 2018-06-11T19:14:28 < jadew> but I guess that's not what they mean by it 2018-06-11T19:14:36 < jadew> what's their point tho? 2018-06-11T19:15:22 < karlp> are you really asking about what the gpl and gnu believe in? 2018-06-11T19:15:23 < jadew> In a nutshell, the word "free" has a couple of meanings and it's not always possible to tell in context which one the user meant. "Free as in beer" refers to the cost (i.e. money) of the software, while "free as in speech" refers to what you are allowed to do with the software. 2018-06-11T19:15:35 < jadew> karlp, I know they're communists 2018-06-11T19:15:40 < karlp> no they're not. 2018-06-11T19:15:55 < jadew> but I want to know what their point is with these two statements 2018-06-11T19:15:56 < karlp> where does communisim come into it? 2018-06-11T19:16:08 < jadew> karlp, from the fact that others work, while the lazy benefit 2018-06-11T19:16:20 < jadew> the large majority 2018-06-11T19:16:26 < karlp> ah, you have a special definition of communism 2018-06-11T19:16:48 < jadew> well, it's the result of communism 2018-06-11T19:18:16 < jadew> and just like in communism, the majority of its supporters are the ones that don't produce anything 2018-06-11T19:19:35 < jadew> it's the same ideology 2018-06-11T19:19:42 < Steffanx> Main difference is perhaps that people just enjoy doing something and others benifit from that. 2018-06-11T19:19:48 < Steffanx> and then im like: i cant give a damn 2018-06-11T19:20:28 < jadew> Steffanx, except when they bully various companies for not being opensource enough 2018-06-11T19:21:40 < Steffanx> who are "they"? 2018-06-11T19:21:48 < jadew> thing about doing something you enjoy so others can benefit can be done without GNU/opensource too 2018-06-11T19:21:55 < jadew> Steffanx, the opensource community 2018-06-11T19:23:01 < jadew> when you opensource a project, you let yourself get sucked dry 2018-06-11T19:23:07 < Ultrasauce> how do you even bully a company 2018-06-11T19:23:33 < jadew> Ultrasauce, public whining 2018-06-11T19:23:35 < Steffanx> More like shaming or whatever i assume? 2018-06-11T19:23:39 < jadew> yeah 2018-06-11T19:23:41 < srk> free as in freedom, not as in beer 2018-06-11T19:24:13 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-11T19:24:34 < Steffanx> Are you in freedom mr srk? 2018-06-11T19:25:40 < englishman> srk you posted some chat earlier and i had an opinion but now i forget what it was 2018-06-11T19:25:43 < englishman> just to let you know 2018-06-11T19:26:03 < Ultrasauce> be it known that at one point i verged away from complete ambivalence 2018-06-11T19:28:08 < srk> it also means like not being forced into paying for nicely packed gcc + IDE and a proprietary programmer 2018-06-11T19:28:54 < Steffanx> was it about haskell, englishman? 2018-06-11T19:28:55 < Steffanx> i bet it was 2018-06-11T19:29:20 < Steffanx> or was it the eye brow thing? 2018-06-11T19:35:02 < vampi-the-frog> hey 2018-06-11T19:35:05 < vampi-the-frog> fuck communism 2018-06-11T19:35:19 < vampi-the-frog> Trump's America is the only way to go 2018-06-11T19:35:31 < Laurenceb> shit that reminds me 2018-06-11T19:35:36 < Laurenceb> Trump is coming to uk 2018-06-11T19:35:41 < vampi-the-frog> when 2018-06-11T19:35:42 < Laurenceb> I think it might actually happen 2018-06-11T19:35:47 < vampi-the-frog> when he commin 2018-06-11T19:35:51 < Laurenceb> next month 2018-06-11T19:35:52 < vampi-the-frog> comin'* 2018-06-11T19:35:53 < vampi-the-frog> nice 2018-06-11T19:36:04 < Laurenceb> I dunno if its really happening... 2018-06-11T19:36:14 < Laurenceb> need to buy shit at some point for epin trollin 2018-06-11T19:36:14 < vampi-the-frog> the UK's gonna get the Trump treatment 2018-06-11T19:36:31 < vampi-the-frog> he gonna talk about dem muslims 2018-06-11T19:36:46 < karlp> I love when rm -rf takes up 100% cpu... 2018-06-11T19:36:55 < vampi-the-frog> karlp: why do you love it so much? 2018-06-11T19:37:01 < karlp> well, at least it finishes. 2018-06-11T19:37:10 < karlp> unlike ls in that directory :) 2018-06-11T19:37:19 < karlp> (~1million files in the directory) 2018-06-11T19:37:22 < vampi-the-frog> was it a cache dir? 2018-06-11T19:38:07 < Laurenceb> https://www.ebay.com/p/3x5-Syrian-Syria-2-Star-Polyester-Flag-3-X-5-FT-Flag-Banner-Grommets-Premium/1948565625?iid=331502004288 2018-06-11T19:38:08 < Laurenceb> nice 2018-06-11T19:38:14 < Cracki> uh 2018-06-11T19:38:23 < Cracki> get a helicopter flag made 2018-06-11T19:38:33 < Cracki> I'd get one too 2018-06-11T19:38:46 < Laurenceb> u in uk? 2018-06-11T19:38:48 < Cracki> nah 2018-06-11T19:38:52 < Cracki> germoney 2018-06-11T19:39:01 < Laurenceb> no trump visit 4 u 2018-06-11T19:39:07 < Cracki> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2018-06-11T19:39:11 < vampi-the-frog> germanistan 2018-06-11T19:39:14 < Cracki> aye 2018-06-11T19:39:21 < Cracki> very istanish here these days 2018-06-11T19:39:36 < vampi-the-frog> Austria kicked some imams out 2018-06-11T19:39:39 < vampi-the-frog> very refreshing 2018-06-11T19:39:48 < Cracki> good for them, I'd move there if they had much of the work I'm into 2018-06-11T19:39:57 < vampi-the-frog> what you into? 2018-06-11T19:40:14 < Cracki> computer vision, robotics, AI, embedded/automotive stuff 2018-06-11T19:40:23 < Cracki> that's all in the southern part of germoney 2018-06-11T19:40:26 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/ifx4FBT 2018-06-11T19:40:29 < Laurenceb> relevant 2018-06-11T19:40:30 < Cracki> so I'm gonna move within the next year anyway 2018-06-11T19:40:32 < vampi-the-frog> I am fairly certain that exists in most countries 2018-06-11T19:40:39 < Cracki> btw, who gets the most foreign aid from murica? 2018-06-11T19:40:41 < Cracki> ;) 2018-06-11T19:40:59 < Cracki> hehehe 56% 2018-06-11T19:41:10 < Cracki> could be germoney too 2018-06-11T19:42:21 < Cracki> I'm sure that industry can be found anywhere, but the question is, what's close and does the advanced shit that gets you shittons of money 2018-06-11T19:42:41 < vampi-the-frog> I could sit here and listen to you forever 2018-06-11T19:42:49 < vampi-the-frog> provided you use the word money in every sentence 2018-06-11T19:42:59 < Cracki> shekels 2018-06-11T19:43:04 < Cracki> wat nao 2018-06-11T19:43:09 < vampi-the-frog> oh yeah? 2018-06-11T19:43:12 < vampi-the-frog> how about some rubles 2018-06-11T19:43:25 < Laurenceb> russian hackers 2018-06-11T19:43:32 < Cracki> muh russians 2018-06-11T19:43:38 < vampi-the-frog> russian hackers... what? 2018-06-11T19:43:43 < Cracki> "russian" 2018-06-11T19:43:49 < vampi-the-frog> yes, and "hackers" but then what 2018-06-11T19:43:58 < vampi-the-frog> here is the full sentence: 2018-06-11T19:44:03 < vampi-the-frog> russian hackers for money 2018-06-11T19:44:33 < Cracki> >Putin: Jews, Ukrainians 'with Russian citizenship' could be behind US election meddling 2018-06-11T19:44:45 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-11T19:45:03 < Cracki> if it looks like you and quacks like you, it could just be camouflage 2018-06-11T19:45:53 < Cracki> I'm excited for the spergfest they'll have when trump sets foot on britbong soil 2018-06-11T19:46:13 < vampi-the-frog> trump gonna set em straight 2018-06-11T19:46:44 < Cracki> I wish germoney could leave the EU, but it (and france) IS the EU 2018-06-11T19:47:00 < vampi-the-frog> I wish Romania would leave the EU 2018-06-11T19:47:03 < karlp> little narrow minded maybe. 2018-06-11T19:47:05 < vampi-the-frog> they set migrant quotas 2018-06-11T19:47:14 < vampi-the-frog> and our president was like nah 2018-06-11T19:47:27 < vampi-the-frog> but they seem to have strong armed him and now we'll have to receive a few thousands 2018-06-11T19:47:30 < Steffanx> France isnt the EU. Its just germany. 2018-06-11T19:47:37 < Cracki> ^ 2018-06-11T19:47:38 < vampi-the-frog> I thought it was Brussels 2018-06-11T19:47:38 < Steffanx> Mainly just merkel. 2018-06-11T19:47:49 < Steffanx> and Schultz or something? 2018-06-11T19:47:56 < Cracki> brüssel needs to be glassed. 2018-06-11T19:48:05 < Cracki> schultz is a drunk nobody. 2018-06-11T19:48:40 < Cracki> juncker, that dude! he's belgian i think 2018-06-11T19:48:48 < Steffanx> oh and there is that guy 2018-06-11T19:48:53 < Cracki> and walks like he's intoxicated too 2018-06-11T19:48:57 < Steffanx> Not from belgium 2018-06-11T19:48:58 < Cracki> might be a medical condition 2018-06-11T19:49:10 < Cracki> blasted globalists 2018-06-11T19:49:15 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:d49f:742d:fb16:67f3] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T19:49:19 < Steffanx> Luxembourg 2018-06-11T19:49:36 < vampi-the-frog> it's all that damn Lichtenstein's fault 2018-06-11T19:49:48 < Steffanx> and vampies. 2018-06-11T19:49:54 < Cracki> the EU started with couldenhove-kalergi 2018-06-11T19:50:09 < karlp> lichtenstein isn't even in the eu 2018-06-11T19:50:27 < Cracki> another 56%er who wanted a docile populace 2018-06-11T19:50:42 < Cracki> I'm so glad the brits are rioting over Tommy now 2018-06-11T19:50:46 < Cracki> it's time 2018-06-11T19:51:00 < karlp> rioting over tommy? what does that even mean? 2018-06-11T19:51:14 < vampi-the-frog> karlp: there's a british activist/reporter called Tommy Robinson 2018-06-11T19:51:27 < vampi-the-frog> karlp: who reported muslim rape gang cases and a lot of other stuff on islam 2018-06-11T19:51:30 < Steffanx> Cracki and Laurenceb are secret brothers. Both talk without proper context 2018-06-11T19:51:33 < karlp> blasted globalists, everything was better when we could just be XXXX and have colonies overseas.... 2018-06-11T19:51:38 < Steffanx> both seem to enjoy 4chan 2018-06-11T19:51:47 < karlp> where XXXX is any nation of your choice. 2018-06-11T19:51:49 < vampi-the-frog> karlp: and he got arrested for apparently political reasons 2018-06-11T19:52:07 < vampi-the-frog> people are rioting afaics for two reasons: no freedom of speech and muslim invasion 2018-06-11T19:52:51 < Laurenceb> tbh its all a bit weird 2018-06-11T19:52:59 < Laurenceb> he has admitted to working with MI5 2018-06-11T19:53:10 < Laurenceb> I'm not 100% convinced he isnt away on holiday 2018-06-11T19:53:18 < vampi-the-frog> you think tommy is a secret agent? 2018-06-11T19:53:22 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-11T19:53:24 < Cracki> Steffanx, oh I think we have context ;) 2018-06-11T19:54:00 < Cracki> nothing wrong with colonies, I think that benefited the natives 2018-06-11T19:54:03 < Laurenceb> I used to work next to a lab that was attacked by the ALF 2018-06-11T19:54:17 < Laurenceb> saw all the police/MI5 tactics 2018-06-11T19:54:22 < vampi-the-frog> Alien Life Form? 2018-06-11T19:54:30 < Cracki> "working with" could mean payroll, or informant, or answered some questions, or whatever 2018-06-11T19:54:45 < Laurenceb> they had agent provocaturs 2018-06-11T19:54:48 < Cracki> pussy-eating furry midget? 2018-06-11T19:55:00 < Laurenceb> vampi-the-frog: Animal Liberation Front 2018-06-11T19:55:05 < vampi-the-frog> oh god 2018-06-11T19:55:18 < Laurenceb> they petrol bombed cars and shit 2018-06-11T19:55:31 < Steffanx> Just you and blaxter, Cracki 2018-06-11T19:55:31 < Laurenceb> turned out some of the instigators were police agents 2018-06-11T19:55:55 < Laurenceb> but most of the actual ALF members got >20 years in jail 2018-06-11T19:55:56 < Steffanx> Hows the UI crashing, Laurenceb? 2018-06-11T19:55:58 < Laurenceb> all a bit mental 2018-06-11T19:56:06 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: crashing utterly 2018-06-11T19:56:16 < Steffanx> Good. Time to get that fixed right? 2018-06-11T19:56:19 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-11T19:56:24 < Laurenceb> it'll never be fixed 2018-06-11T19:56:29 < vampi-the-frog> nobody's protesting to get those assholes out of jail :P 2018-06-11T19:56:42 < Laurenceb> heh 2018-06-11T19:56:53 < Laurenceb> well they were on hidden camera making bombs 2018-06-11T19:57:26 < Laurenceb> rather more conclusive 2018-06-11T19:58:03 < Cracki> I love evidence. 2018-06-11T19:59:22 < vampi-the-frog> the way I see it, if many countries, especially the US, move on to solar or wind power, they won't need oil and that'll leave the arabs poor again 2018-06-11T19:59:39 < invzim> dfuse demo app doesn't seem to set the jump to address 2018-06-11T19:59:39 < vampi-the-frog> especially if electric is cheaper 2018-06-11T19:59:41 < Laurenceb> nice 2018-06-11T19:59:45 < Laurenceb> datacounter is 337 2018-06-11T19:59:53 < Laurenceb> 4 packets were transferred... 2018-06-11T19:59:58 < invzim> and dfu-util doesn't like windows 10 or something 2018-06-11T20:00:11 < Laurenceb> UI confirmed as random number generator 2018-06-11T20:02:01 < Cracki> win10 is uppity 2018-06-11T20:02:16 < Cracki> just use win7 if it needs to be a windows 2018-06-11T20:02:23 < Cracki> win10 is like arch, you get an update and stuff breaks 2018-06-11T20:02:42 < invzim> or just kill this app from ram thing in the crib 2018-06-11T20:03:31 < kakimir> I need system monitoring tool to my linux shiets 2018-06-11T20:03:49 < kakimir> ncurses shiet preferrably 2018-06-11T20:04:14 < kakimir> basically a tool to grasp anything important 2018-06-11T20:04:24 < kakimir> on one look 2018-06-11T20:04:31 < vampi-the-frog> kakimir: top, iftop, mytop 2018-06-11T20:04:41 < vampi-the-frog> you can use tmux to multiplex them in one terminal 2018-06-11T20:04:53 < vampi-the-frog> I think there was one that monitored hard disk activity as well 2018-06-11T20:04:57 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-11T20:05:14 < kakimir> also I want to see important stuffs from logs 2018-06-11T20:05:22 < vampi-the-frog> you can follow logs with tail -f 2018-06-11T20:05:24 < vampi-the-frog> and dmesg -w 2018-06-11T20:05:43 < Cracki> any tool to see current disk throughput? 2018-06-11T20:05:47 < vampi-the-frog> I do that when doing USB stuff 2018-06-11T20:05:48 < Cracki> and which process causes it? 2018-06-11T20:05:51 < karlp> iotop 2018-06-11T20:05:53 < vampi-the-frog> there is one, Cracki 2018-06-11T20:05:53 < Cracki> kthx 2018-06-11T20:05:57 < vampi-the-frog> yeah I think it's iotop 2018-06-11T20:06:14 < Cracki> grml the box I need it on doesn't have it 2018-06-11T20:06:26 < vampi-the-frog> I think it's just a script you download 2018-06-11T20:06:35 < Cracki> I shall go look 2018-06-11T20:07:29 < karlp> what shitty box are you working on? 2018-06-11T20:07:38 < karlp> it's not always installed by default, but it's normally a package manager away 2018-06-11T20:08:35 < kakimir> I think I should probs remove sudoers from my irc user 2018-06-11T20:08:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-11T20:09:15 < Cracki> a shitty box administered by some shitty people who have no other standing above me except they were first to get root and now they won't share 2018-06-11T20:09:19 < Cracki> students 2018-06-11T20:09:36 < Cracki> all "consensus" and other commie shit 2018-06-11T20:09:42 < kakimir> crack them 2018-06-11T20:09:49 < Cracki> mebbeh 2018-06-11T20:10:00 < Cracki> you can't kick anyone out for being a piece of shit 2018-06-11T20:10:07 < vampi-the-frog> why not 2018-06-11T20:10:09 < vampi-the-frog> of course you can 2018-06-11T20:10:12 < Cracki> because muh feelings 2018-06-11T20:10:15 < Cracki> it's university 2018-06-11T20:10:24 < Cracki> and these peopel are pussies 2018-06-11T20:10:25 < Steffanx> Ask how your brother does it. 2018-06-11T20:10:33 < Steffanx> He seems to do well. 2018-06-11T20:10:52 < Steffanx> Although in the end he is the one that gets kicked out D: 2018-06-11T20:10:58 < Cracki> brother? 2018-06-11T20:11:06 < Steffanx> laurence. 2018-06-11T20:11:17 < Cracki> :> 2018-06-11T20:11:48 < kakimir> looked at iotop in my irc raspi 2018-06-11T20:12:04 < kakimir> absolutelly nothing happening 2018-06-11T20:12:32 < kakimir> sweet 2018-06-11T20:16:31 < kakimir> fail2ban has 0 ip's in jail 2018-06-11T20:16:35 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T20:16:35 < kakimir> ips 2018-06-11T20:16:44 < kakimir> that's probs not working 2018-06-11T20:17:03 < Cracki> or nobody cares about your raspi 2018-06-11T20:17:13 < kakimir> other server I have has ips like bang bang 2018-06-11T20:17:22 < kakimir> chinese ips 2018-06-11T20:17:39 < kakimir> Cracki: they don't select their victims 2018-06-11T20:18:17 < Cracki> I heard about a way to enumerate the whole IPv6 space by poking DNS servers carefully 2018-06-11T20:18:50 < Cracki> it's only a little bruteforce because you need to find the servers in the "tree", but then they'll spill their beans 2018-06-11T20:19:05 < kakimir> I don't understand 2018-06-11T20:19:17 < kakimir> can you add your ip in my jail Cracki? 2018-06-11T20:19:28 < Cracki> wat 2018-06-11T20:21:14 < Laurenceb> sup trolls 2018-06-11T20:21:28 < Laurenceb> I always get login attempts from chinese military ips 2018-06-11T20:21:31 < Laurenceb> epin lulz 2018-06-11T20:22:03 < kakimir> they want your shiet 2018-06-11T20:23:51 < Laurenceb> yay muh shares are pwning 2018-06-11T20:24:01 < Laurenceb> >made more from trading than jerb 2018-06-11T20:24:07 < Laurenceb> I should prob just quit 2018-06-11T20:27:05 < Laurenceb> nasty shit UI is sort of working... 2018-06-11T20:27:25 < kakimir> get moneiz 2018-06-11T20:27:33 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/Tw2LJ2Si 2018-06-11T20:27:35 < Laurenceb> nastyyy 2018-06-11T20:27:56 < Laurenceb> epin haxor at line 137 2018-06-11T20:30:23 < kakimir> I don't understand a shit 2018-06-11T20:51:00 < Steffanx> Welcome The Kakimir 2018-06-11T20:51:15 < jpa-> Laurenceb: can you try connecting to device with serial number ;rm -rf /home; 2018-06-11T20:51:21 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-11T20:51:54 < Laurenceb> jpa-: qprocess isnt a terminal emulator 2018-06-11T20:52:01 < Laurenceb> so that wouldnt work 2018-06-11T20:52:53 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPjrFjAxwlw 2018-06-11T20:56:13 < Cracki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWB-kuyxe3M 2018-06-11T20:56:30 < Cracki> just print moar money 2018-06-11T20:56:48 < Steffanx> Semi-random music video kakimir https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbOo2Kvngdg 2018-06-11T20:58:53 < Cracki> shiet 220 trillion 2018-06-11T20:59:50 < Thorn> cat video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmdHArlfApg 2018-06-11T21:00:46 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/hO8O51H 2018-06-11T21:00:53 < Laurenceb> buzzfeed are just lame trolls now 2018-06-11T21:01:10 < Cracki> mow 2018-06-11T21:01:12 < Steffanx> Thorn, that is like showing a video of a human and saying it's a monkey vid. 2018-06-11T21:01:26 < Cracki> hahah puma shirt 2018-06-11T21:01:27 < Steffanx> buzzfeed are just lame trolls now 2018-06-11T21:02:37 < Cracki> that wasn't a roman salute, that was a "dab" 2018-06-11T21:03:49 < Laurenceb> >implying they arent just shitposting 2018-06-11T21:04:23 < Steffanx> He is just a big cry baby, based in the photo. 2018-06-11T21:04:51 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/MAvMJ90 2018-06-11T21:05:11 < Cracki> that's not a frog 2018-06-11T21:06:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-11T21:06:52 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T21:06:54 < kakimir> Steffanx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so7AxD0Kirw 2018-06-11T21:07:38 < Cracki> good music 2018-06-11T21:07:39 < Steffanx> 4That's a bit too much for me, kakimir 2018-06-11T21:08:28 < kakimir> I wonder if it's giberish vocals 2018-06-11T21:14:08 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T21:17:01 < Steffanx> its finnish as finnish = gibberish. 2018-06-11T21:17:50 < aandrew> yay, got the DSP booting from the ARM 2018-06-11T21:17:53 < aandrew> https://imgur.com/dbfDTLg 2018-06-11T21:18:23 < Steffanx> Clean desk policy? 2018-06-11T21:18:30 < Steffanx> What fancy dsp is this? 2018-06-11T21:19:50 < kakimir> sweet epoxy deal there 2018-06-11T21:22:39 < Laurenceb> argg I hate guis 2018-06-11T21:22:48 < Laurenceb> dis shit works about 25% of the time 2018-06-11T21:23:03 < Laurenceb> maybe I should just create an outer loop that kills and restarts it 2018-06-11T21:25:27 < Steffanx> or write proper code? 2018-06-11T21:27:26 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T21:27:32 < Cracki> hire someone to program this 2018-06-11T21:27:46 < Cracki> get a student code monkey 2018-06-11T21:28:06 < Laurenceb> yeah 2018-06-11T21:28:11 < Laurenceb> needs a pc developer 2018-06-11T21:28:32 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/sNvm1QnZ 2018-06-11T21:28:42 < Laurenceb> right now its in an edless loop there 2018-06-11T21:28:46 < Laurenceb> makes no sense to me 2018-06-11T21:29:51 < Cracki> does ++intf do what it's supposed to? 2018-06-11T21:30:11 < Laurenceb> it used to... 2018-06-11T21:30:20 < Cracki> (I commonly see post-increment, so I'm not sure 2018-06-11T21:30:27 < Cracki> printlining 2018-06-11T21:30:34 < Laurenceb> k I'll swap it 2018-06-11T21:30:35 < Cracki> the iterator can't be infinite 2018-06-11T21:31:06 < Cracki> >retrIEved 2018-06-11T21:31:33 < Cracki> what's "interfaces"? can interfaces->end change? 2018-06-11T21:31:38 < Cracki> (during iteration) 2018-06-11T21:31:45 < Laurenceb> no 2018-06-11T21:31:52 < Laurenceb> oh I think its the outer loop 2018-06-11T21:31:57 < Laurenceb> needs return true 2018-06-11T21:32:21 < Cracki> there's an outer loop? wat 2018-06-11T21:32:47 < Cracki> lemme guess, the outer loop is a while (true) { ... } 2018-06-11T21:34:39 < srk> forever $ alone 2018-06-11T21:35:40 < Cracki> get a lynx, they're on sale today 2018-06-11T21:37:08 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T21:38:49 < Laurenceb> sheeet 2018-06-11T21:39:03 < Laurenceb> thats fixed but there is still the datacounter error 2018-06-11T21:39:19 < Laurenceb> datacounter gets to crazy high values without any packets being received 2018-06-11T21:39:40 < Laurenceb> output file size is zero bytes 2018-06-11T21:39:43 < Laurenceb> wtf 2018-06-11T21:39:56 < Laurenceb> shit makes no sense 2018-06-11T21:40:40 < veverak> Laurenceb: for( intf : interfaces ){} 2018-06-11T21:40:50 < Laurenceb> oh cool thanks 2018-06-11T21:41:05 < vampi-the-frog> I always sigh at new syntax 2018-06-11T21:41:14 < Laurenceb> maybe there is a copypasterable algorithm to synchronise my threads instead 2018-06-11T21:41:29 < Laurenceb> something is majorly off with this function 2018-06-11T21:41:37 < veverak> Laurenceb: " range based for loop " 2018-06-11T21:42:04 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-11T21:42:05 < Cracki> synchronize threads using queues/message passing. it's the safest paradigm. 2018-06-11T21:42:18 < Cracki> qt lets you throw around messages already 2018-06-11T21:42:48 < Cracki> range-based for might need an "(auto& intf : interfaces)" or something 2018-06-11T21:42:53 < Laurenceb> Cracki: yeah 2018-06-11T21:43:07 < veverak> Cracki: I suppose he can google the details 2018-06-11T21:43:12 < Laurenceb> problem is I need to be able to connect to ranbon audio devices 2018-06-11T21:43:14 < Cracki> >_> 2018-06-11T21:43:20 < Laurenceb> not just my custom devices 2018-06-11T21:43:29 < Laurenceb> so using alsa stuff is simpler 2018-06-11T21:43:44 < Laurenceb> but it cant output useful synchronisation stuff 2018-06-11T21:43:56 < Laurenceb> hence my horrible sync function thats breaking horribly 2018-06-11T21:44:01 < Laurenceb> and undebuggable 2018-06-11T21:44:16 < Laurenceb> solution: quit stupid jerb 2018-06-11T21:44:49 < Laurenceb> maybe a data watchpoint on datacounter, but I bet the timing changes fix the problem 2018-06-11T21:45:13 < veverak> if performance is not an issue, just make message queue between threads 2018-06-11T21:48:02 < Laurenceb> I guess I could spawn a Qt thread to interface with each device yeah 2018-06-11T21:52:21 < aandrew> Steffanx: no, just happens to be clean in that area 2018-06-11T21:52:31 < aandrew> it's a Sharc 21479 2018-06-11T21:52:52 < aandrew> epoxy is life. at least preserves the life of pads when wiring to them. one false move and they'd rip off the board. epoxy prevents it 2018-06-11T21:53:32 < [7]> if you were to design a low-budget low-power wireless sensor device with a moderately complex wireless protocol, and would need to choose an MCU (with at least 64K flash, 16K ram I'd say), which MCU would you choose? 2018-06-11T21:53:48 < Cracki> some nrf? 2018-06-11T21:53:53 < Cracki> "complex"? 2018-06-11T21:59:21 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-11T21:59:34 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T21:59:56 < Steffanx> Yeah, what protocol do you want to use? And what freq. etc? 2018-06-11T22:01:44 < Cracki> don't say "bitcoin miner" pls 2018-06-11T22:02:20 < Steffanx> Tommy. 2018-06-11T22:03:15 < Cracki> esp8266 can be an option 2018-06-11T22:03:44 < Steffanx> and then use micropython? 2018-06-11T22:04:21 < [7]> I used the nrf before, but I want to upgrade to something better on a longer-range, less crowded band (868 or 443) 2018-06-11T22:04:42 < [7]> protocol will probably be something custom, experimenting with options in that space is part of the plan ;) 2018-06-11T22:04:46 < Cracki> try ##electronics if you don't want ST Micro solutions ;) 2018-06-11T22:04:52 < Cracki> define "protocol" 2018-06-11T22:04:55 < Cracki> layer 1, 2, 3, 4, ...? 2018-06-11T22:05:07 < [7]> physical layer will be GFSK/MSK or maybe LoRa 2018-06-11T22:05:13 < [7]> everything on top of that probably custom 2018-06-11T22:05:14 < srk> [7]: we're using rmf95 with stm32l433 2018-06-11T22:05:22 < srk> ^^ :) 2018-06-11T22:05:33 < Cracki> *rfm95 2018-06-11T22:05:41 < ffffffffffffffff> [7] I'm prototyping on this https://github.com/hallard/WeMos-Lora 2018-06-11T22:05:42 < srk> or 98? 2018-06-11T22:05:50 < Steffanx> oh lol, mr [7] is cross posting. Time to ban that guy :P 2018-06-11T22:05:51 < [7]> and I kinda want to be able to build tons of them cheaply - now a LoRa radio isn't exactly that cheap, but I'd like to keep MCU cost below $2 or so 2018-06-11T22:05:58 < ffffffffffffffff> with an rf96 for 433 2018-06-11T22:06:17 < [7]> Steffanx: hehe, sometimes getting decidedly different responses from different channels ;) 2018-06-11T22:06:31 < srk> https://wiki.base48.cz/File:Proto-lorawan.jpg 2018-06-11T22:06:38 < srk> (by Adluc) 2018-06-11T22:07:05 < [7]> ffffffffffffffff: I'm currently planning to use the Ra-01 module for first experiments, I have a few of those on order 2018-06-11T22:07:33 < ffffffffffffffff> I also built one of his pi hats for the lora module so I have a linux system to screw around with lora https://github.com/hallard/LoRasPI 2018-06-11T22:08:40 < ffffffffffffffff> for longer range, hoperf have some nice PA modules 2018-06-11T22:08:59 * srk building mqtt from TTN to websocket streaming atm 2018-06-11T22:09:20 < srk> much iot 2018-06-11T22:09:26 < ffffffffffffffff> I'm using homeassistant to run all my mqtt garbage for now 2018-06-11T22:09:42 < srk> I'm using reactive-banana-automation :D 2018-06-11T22:09:49 < ffffffffffffffff> it's a fucking retarded way of running a timer 2018-06-11T22:10:55 < [7]> hehe did anyone build a TTN node based on an FPGA (that's cheaper than that semtech gateway?) or even based on an rtlsdr + software yet? 2018-06-11T22:11:44 < srk> I want to try with number of these rfm* modules connected to one stm32 2018-06-11T22:12:26 < srk> for 4 chan gw it might be ok 2018-06-11T22:12:53 < Cracki> say what 2018-06-11T22:14:07 < ffffffffffffffff> I want to build a bunch of super cheap nodes as well, I bought 1000 li-ion battery packs at an auction and need to figure out what to do with them 2018-06-11T22:16:06 < [7]> srk: the problem is that you can't really determine the coding parameters with the cheap chips 2018-06-11T22:16:38 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T22:16:49 < srk> [7]: ah, ok. 2018-06-11T22:16:56 < [7]> that's where the parallel decoding stuff on the expensive semtech chip (which may quite likely be an FPGA?) comes in 2018-06-11T22:17:25 < [7]> it scans for 49 parameter sets or so in parallel 2018-06-11T22:17:40 < srk> cool 2018-06-11T22:18:04 < [7]> but I'm thinking that an RTL-SDR should provide all data that you need, and a PC or maybe even some ARM thing may be powerful enough to decode that realtime 2018-06-11T22:18:29 < ffffffffffffffff> there is a ton of traffic on 433 lora here, I think it's the street lights 2018-06-11T22:20:21 < [7]> while sniffing a bit with an RTL-SDR I found a lot of chatter on both 868 (probably lots of wireless thermostats, but also some weird things) and 433 (no idea what that stuff is), but nothing that looked remotely like LoRa modulation 2018-06-11T22:20:44 < [7]> and in theory I should have coverage of 1-2 TTN nodes here on 868 2018-06-11T22:23:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-11T22:24:29 < Laurenceb> sheeet 2018-06-11T22:24:42 < Laurenceb> I think I'm literally getting a button debouncing error 2018-06-11T22:25:33 < Laurenceb> audiointerface::startnotify(sensorhandle_t* dev) is getting called multiple times resetting the state machine 2018-06-11T22:29:28 < Laurenceb> hmm back to segfault 2018-06-11T22:30:01 < Laurenceb> fil = new QFile(filename); segfaults 2018-06-11T22:30:03 < Laurenceb> nice 2018-06-11T22:31:03 < Laurenceb> nope, undebuggable 2018-06-11T22:31:17 < Laurenceb> I suspect the debug output is utterly unrelated to reality 2018-06-11T22:31:21 < Laurenceb> hometiem 2018-06-11T22:31:22 -!- hexo_ is now known as kolokot 2018-06-11T22:42:20 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEQIE2gs4Qs musics time 2018-06-11T22:47:36 < upgrdman> Laurenceb, be sure to sprikle LOTS of pointers in your code, to make things exponentially more difficult to understand or debug 2018-06-11T22:50:36 < kakimir> I think I want to invest in usb tokens 2018-06-11T22:51:10 < kakimir> I don't trust security of anything that something I can physically separate from system 2018-06-11T22:51:17 < kakimir> *but 2018-06-11T22:53:43 < Steffanx> lol did you even look at the code, no need for that at all. upgrdman :P 2018-06-11T22:54:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-38e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T22:54:01 < upgrdman> Steffanx, ofc i didnt look at shit 2018-06-11T22:54:11 < upgrdman> but venting about shit code i've had to work with :) 2018-06-11T22:54:43 < upgrdman> "lets use pointers where we dont need to. because fuck upgrdman trying to follow logic with right-click > find occurances etc" 2018-06-11T22:55:33 < kakimir> ##codehero32 2018-06-11T23:00:52 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-11T23:09:55 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-11T23:23:56 < Steffanx> one day someone will complain about your codes upgrdman :P 2018-06-11T23:24:10 < upgrdman> sure 2018-06-11T23:24:48 < Steffanx> hows arduino money making? 2018-06-11T23:27:01 < m4t> rtl_433 decodes a BUNCH of stuff [7] 2018-06-11T23:27:34 < [7]> yeah I mean not just decoding it "offline", but using such a setup realtime to build TTN base stations 2018-06-11T23:30:28 < upgrdman> Steffanx, down from the xmas high, but ~$90/month now 2018-06-11T23:30:38 < upgrdman> and i have not uploaded anything in months 2018-06-11T23:32:00 < upgrdman> i keep meaning to do some esp8266 videos but i just DGAF about my channel right now. well i do, but my other hobbies are pulling me away. so glad i bought that bike. such fun, very wow. 2018-06-11T23:32:18 < Steffanx> itll be winter again soon 2018-06-11T23:32:45 < upgrdman> in so cal "winter" means you wear a light jacket over your t-shirt and shorts 2018-06-11T23:32:47 < srk> bikes are the best 2018-06-11T23:32:55 < BrainDamage> did you die yet? 2018-06-11T23:33:13 < upgrdman> also, learning to cook decent food is kinda fun. but i have not reached "decent" yet ;) 2018-06-11T23:33:30 < BrainDamage> I'm generally pissed at how most teach cooking 2018-06-11T23:33:38 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, luckily no. managed to get 0 scratches or falls so far 2018-06-11T23:33:47 < BrainDamage> they throw some recipes here and there but no reason for 2018-06-11T23:33:53 < BrainDamage> why a tecnique is used instead of another 2018-06-11T23:34:06 < BrainDamage> no logic, no rationale, everything is random 2018-06-11T23:34:06 < upgrdman> ya im finding some yt channels where the guy explains, not just instructs 2018-06-11T23:34:33 < upgrdman> "alex french guy cooking" is pretty good, especially his older videos 2018-06-11T23:36:19 < upgrdman> back to biking: on day 1 i would need to take a ~2 minute brake every ~1.5km. im now doing 10km, then a ~1 minute brake, then another 10km. 2018-06-11T23:36:41 < BrainDamage> break, not brake 2018-06-11T23:36:48 < BrainDamage> brake is what you pull when you want a break 2018-06-11T23:36:54 < kakimir> his doing downhills 2018-06-11T23:36:54 < upgrdman> err ya 2018-06-11T23:37:00 < upgrdman> kakimir, lol no 2018-06-11T23:37:24 < upgrdman> biking along the LA "river" 2018-06-11T23:37:44 < BrainDamage> I get on top of a hill/mountain here and I release the brakes 2018-06-11T23:37:58 < BrainDamage> and I pull the lever when I'm scared shitless 2018-06-11T23:38:05 < upgrdman> ya... im too much of a coward to do that 2018-06-11T23:38:22 < BrainDamage> ...I'm a coward too 2018-06-11T23:40:05 < Steffanx> did oyu die yet, BrainDamage? 2018-06-11T23:40:05 < kakimir> I have too little accessories for that 2018-06-11T23:40:14 < Steffanx> did you ever crash? 2018-06-11T23:40:33 < BrainDamage> No, but once a car ran over me... While I was stationary 2018-06-11T23:40:51 < srk> [7]: fpga .. https://github.com/Lora-net/lora_gateway/blob/master/libloragw/src/loragw_fpga.c 2018-06-11T23:41:26 < upgrdman> the first time i pushed to go 10km away, i noticed the scenery looking shitty as fuck and wondering where the fuck i was. then google maps told me i was in Compton. such wtf, didn't even know Compton was that close to me 2018-06-11T23:42:34 < upgrdman> for those who dont know, Compton is a shit city, infamous for lots of poor black people. many rappers write songs about it 2018-06-11T23:42:45 < upgrdman> or used to. old school rap. 2018-06-11T23:42:52 < Steffanx> I have no clue where compton isn:P 2018-06-11T23:43:50 < upgrdman> but theres a small golf course is compton, along the la river. so i guess its not 100% poor black people. 2018-06-11T23:47:58 < srk> lal https://github.com/Lora-net/lora_gateway/issues/15 2018-06-11T23:51:41 < englishman> going all broadcom 2018-06-11T23:52:00 < englishman> Emulates 49x LoRa demodulators and 1x (G)FSK demodulator 2018-06-11T23:52:01 < englishman> crikey 2018-06-11T23:52:33 < englishman> doesnt sound like a chip where you plan to save on power 2018-06-11T23:58:51 < nn77> is there an easy way to know if the UART is done transmitting without waiting for an interrupt? --- Day changed Tue Jun 12 2018 2018-06-12T00:03:48 < Steffanx> Just wait for the empty bit? 2018-06-12T00:04:44 < nn77> could you please be more specific? 2018-06-12T00:04:45 < Steffanx> Or not empty not sure which one there is 2018-06-12T00:04:52 < Steffanx> There is a status bit. 2018-06-12T00:06:56 < Steffanx> TXE in the U(S)ART SR register 2018-06-12T00:07:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-38e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-12T00:07:24 < Steffanx> Which will tell you its empty (or not) 2018-06-12T00:08:11 < Steffanx> It = the transmit register 2018-06-12T00:11:17 < karlp> [7]: I'd evaluate the silabs ezr32 parts or the ti newgen parts (the cortex-m rather than the 8051) mcus 2018-06-12T00:14:36 < karlp> upgrdman: huh, compton still hasn't gentrified? it's location is pretty ideal. 2018-06-12T00:15:05 < karlp> nn77: you can either poll TXE or TXC (dpeending on what you really want to know) or have an interrupt for them. 2018-06-12T00:15:11 < karlp> what other sort of method would you expect? 2018-06-12T00:15:11 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-12T00:16:21 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T00:18:29 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T00:19:00 < upgrdman> karlp, maybe some parts have, buts at least the area i biked through looked ghetto as fuck 2018-06-12T00:19:11 < upgrdman> might just be my bad luck though 2018-06-12T00:19:40 < Steffanx> Time to record your trips upgrdman 2018-06-12T00:19:46 < Steffanx> So we can judge 2018-06-12T00:22:57 < upgrdman> ok 2018-06-12T00:23:18 < upgrdman> but knowing ##stm32, you'll be judging ME instead of the journey ;) 2018-06-12T00:23:26 < upgrdman> oh well, wont be the first time 2018-06-12T00:24:09 < Steffanx> As long as you go without audio... Itll be good 2018-06-12T00:24:11 < upgrdman> "your form is wrong! you're too slow! stop being a coward down the hills! etc" 2018-06-12T00:24:36 < Steffanx> Hah. You dont take the shit said here tooo serious right? 2018-06-12T00:24:37 < BrainDamage> We don't need a video to do that 2018-06-12T00:24:46 < upgrdman> ^ exactly 2018-06-12T00:25:05 < upgrdman> Steffanx, lol ofc not 2018-06-12T00:25:14 < Steffanx> We only judge bitmask. The vaper. 2018-06-12T00:25:29 < BrainDamage> that and 𝓗𝓪𝓼𝓴𝓮𝓵𝓵 2018-06-12T00:25:49 < upgrdman> that and what? guess my irc client cant handle utf8 or wtf you used 2018-06-12T00:26:01 < BrainDamage> I wrote haskell in cursive 2018-06-12T00:26:04 < bitmask> :) 2018-06-12T00:26:41 < Steffanx> I cant see it either 2018-06-12T00:26:54 < srk> :( 2018-06-12T00:27:02 < srk> so cryptic 2018-06-12T00:27:41 < Steffanx> Srk has a highlight on Haskell? 2018-06-12T00:27:49 < srk> upgrdman: gotta play some steady music 2018-06-12T00:27:56 < srk> https://soundcloud.com/paranoiakyoupisystem/pnk-insomnia 2018-06-12T00:27:59 < upgrdman> srk, i do 2018-06-12T00:27:59 < srk> Steffanx: not really 2018-06-12T00:28:09 < BrainDamage> the wind howling is a pretty good sound to me 2018-06-12T00:28:09 < upgrdman> srk, phone holder was one of my first accessories 2018-06-12T00:28:19 < upgrdman> and pandora + headphone keep me going 2018-06-12T00:28:26 < srk> hehe 2018-06-12T00:28:42 < BrainDamage> Also when I'm bouncing on the dirt I can't hear shit anyway 2018-06-12T00:28:47 < Steffanx> I hate bikers with headphones. 2018-06-12T00:29:16 < srk> BrainDamage: I don't want to hear sounds of my bike :D 2018-06-12T00:29:31 < srk> lately I use wind as well 2018-06-12T00:29:43 < srk> instead of music 2018-06-12T00:29:46 < BrainDamage> upgrdman: taking videos can be fun https://ptpb.pw/IX18.mkv even if your form is shit 2018-06-12T00:30:13 < karlp> fucking h264 high profile is required. 2018-06-12T00:30:19 < karlp> fucking blah 2018-06-12T00:30:26 < Steffanx> Lol 2018-06-12T00:30:49 < upgrdman> Steffanx, i dont like wearing headphone when biking either, but i'd rather not share my choice of music with all of the fucks around me 2018-06-12T00:30:51 < BrainDamage> there's a fuckload of h264 tunables, I guess I accidentally used the wrong one 2018-06-12T00:31:04 < karlp> nah, turned out I didn't have gstream-blah-libav or something 2018-06-12T00:31:05 < upgrdman> and i only use 1 earbud when biking, so i can hear my surroundings a lil 2018-06-12T00:31:06 < karlp> works now 2018-06-12T00:31:09 < karlp> even looks like italy :) 2018-06-12T00:32:07 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, ya my phone holder mounts to my steering column, so if i record i'll have to just stick my phone in my shirt pocket and hope for the best 2018-06-12T00:32:23 < upgrdman> otherwise you'll all just see my fork and the ground 2018-06-12T00:32:35 < BrainDamage> I have a phone holder to the steering column too, to record I use a chinashit cam 2018-06-12T00:32:50 < BrainDamage> moebius something 2018-06-12T00:32:51 < stvn> Ah yeah 2018-06-12T00:32:58 < karlp> mounted on what? helmet? or chest? 2018-06-12T00:33:00 < stvn> Good morning though 2018-06-12T00:33:10 < BrainDamage> the handlebar, which is why it's shaky as shit 2018-06-12T00:33:11 < karlp> I've been considering just phone sticking out of the top of a pocket. 2018-06-12T00:33:27 < BrainDamage> I don't want to look like a dork too much 2018-06-12T00:33:37 < karlp> helmet cam seems like an invitation to get wildly shakng shit 2018-06-12T00:33:54 < BrainDamage> Helmet cam is actually one of the steadiest places 2018-06-12T00:34:11 < BrainDamage> because you tend to naturally stabilize yourself using your sight, using involuntary movements 2018-06-12T00:34:35 < BrainDamage> here's a mockery of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKu785g0O0 2018-06-12T00:36:19 < karlp> was more concerned about just looking around at distracting shit 2018-06-12T00:36:25 < stvn> Schuhmacher gopro 2018-06-12T00:36:41 < Steffanx> The stvn 2018-06-12T00:36:50 < stvn> Hi dad 2018-06-12T00:37:02 < BrainDamage> stvn: my answer to that is go to a speed that makes helmets pointless 2018-06-12T00:37:15 < BrainDamage> then you only need minimal body armor as well 2018-06-12T00:37:16 < karlp> BrainDamage: heh, fun video 2018-06-12T00:37:38 < stvn> Cool 2018-06-12T00:37:56 < stvn> Never mind me I think 1 hour of sleep is all i had 2018-06-12T00:38:19 < BrainDamage> karlp: if you care, here's the rest of the bike video https://www.dropbox.com/s/byok3l84vvk2ghm/outputwat3.mkv?dl=1 2018-06-12T00:38:37 < karlp> so, yeah, italy was fun (again) 2018-06-12T00:38:46 < BrainDamage> it might fuck up slightly AV desync when the audio starts 2018-06-12T00:38:47 < karlp> but forealz, put some salt in your bread y0 2018-06-12T00:38:54 < BrainDamage> let me guess 2018-06-12T00:38:57 < BrainDamage> you went to tuscany? 2018-06-12T00:39:09 < BrainDamage> they are infamous for their saltless bread 2018-06-12T00:39:21 < BrainDamage> it's shit, it's only good to throw into overly salted soups 2018-06-12T00:39:49 < karlp> yeah, audio is a bit weird. 2018-06-12T00:39:52 < Steffanx> You not kore insane than ever so far stvn 2018-06-12T00:39:56 < Steffanx> More* 2018-06-12T00:40:06 < karlp> two days in florence, one in montalcino and some driving, then three in umbria 2018-06-12T00:40:21 < karlp> went to norcia to get sausage and shit, didn't know it was earthquake ville 2018-06-12T00:40:28 < karlp> was rather sad to see :| 2018-06-12T00:40:59 < karlp> san gimignano was cool though, even if just for the acid trip explanation videos about the towers. 2018-06-12T00:41:03 < kakimir> englishman: canada - us actual conflict when? 2018-06-12T00:42:07 < englishman> hahaha 2018-06-12T00:42:12 < englishman> do you think trudeau is a fighter? 2018-06-12T00:42:32 < karlp> so... do you reckonn trump will abduct kim? 2018-06-12T00:42:42 < kakimir> he is handsome 2018-06-12T00:42:58 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-12T00:43:18 < BrainDamage> and sodomize him? 2018-06-12T00:43:58 < kakimir> they will dock 2018-06-12T00:44:27 < Steffanx> Im still more worried about Trudeaus eye browes.. will they stick? 2018-06-12T00:45:32 < Steffanx> Damn you englishman 2018-06-12T00:46:44 < englishman> https://gfycat.com/RashFaithfulGuernseycow 2018-06-12T00:46:54 < englishman> can you imagine this guy 2018-06-12T00:47:02 < englishman> saying, once more unto the breach dear friends 2018-06-12T00:47:05 < karlp> BrainDamage: still, very glad to hear that it's known that tuscany has this shit bread, and there's hope for the rest 2018-06-12T00:48:04 < BrainDamage> generally bread in italy is somewhat mediocre, except for few regional breads 2018-06-12T00:48:20 < BrainDamage> but tuscany's is the worst 2018-06-12T00:48:37 < nn77> karlp, I wasn't sure if the transmit_DMA feature worked like that 2018-06-12T00:48:51 < karlp> I generally enjoyed the food, I love seafood pasta, and italians are happy to use more types of seafood than icelanders for instance, 2018-06-12T00:48:52 < stvn> Hmm bread 2018-06-12T00:48:59 < nn77> meaning, I didn't know if the TXE/TXC registers toggled between characters or only once the DMA transmit was done. 2018-06-12T00:49:39 < BrainDamage> We got weird tradictions dating eversince the romans to import salted cod from nordic countries 2018-06-12T00:49:42 < karlp> nn77: there's an app note from st on "driving the de pin for rs485" or some such, that explains methods of doing this. 2018-06-12T00:50:09 < karlp> even if you're not explicitly trying to drive rs485 tranceivers, the advice is all still the same 2018-06-12T00:50:15 < nn77> looks like an3070. thanks, I'll take a look 2018-06-12T00:52:41 < BrainDamage> karlp: did you have the chance to try a lampredotto? 2018-06-12T00:54:07 < karlp> I did not. 2018-06-12T00:54:14 < nn77> ok next question. How do I figure out where this DE register is? I've scanned through a handful of documents I have open and it's not clear where I find this DE register. 2018-06-12T00:54:19 < karlp> we were not doing much tourism off the beaten track. 2018-06-12T00:54:22 < stvn> Such mystery 2018-06-12T00:54:28 < karlp> wife is rather pregnant, we weren't working far. 2018-06-12T00:54:36 < karlp> weren't walking far 2018-06-12T00:55:01 < karlp> didn't even get the jumbo t-bone, wasn't prepared to throw half of it away, she wasn't going to eat it, and noöway was I going to get through all of it. 2018-06-12T00:55:03 < BrainDamage> Ah well, you didn't miss too much, it'd a delicacy, which means it's somewhat disgusting if you're not used to it 2018-06-12T00:55:07 < karlp> looked good though 2018-06-12T00:55:08 < stvn> First babby? 2018-06-12T00:55:14 < karlp> numero duo 2018-06-12T00:55:23 < stvn> Cool cool 2018-06-12T00:55:27 < BrainDamage> ossobuco? 2018-06-12T00:55:43 < karlp> BrainDamage: nope, was offered that at one place, but only if the table got it. 2018-06-12T00:56:03 < BrainDamage> bistecca fiorentina? 2018-06-12T00:56:13 < BrainDamage> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bistecca_alla_fiorentina#/media/File:Bistecca_alla_fiorentina_(400gr).jpg 2018-06-12T00:56:16 < karlp> no, that's the "jumbo tbone" I said I couldn't get because it was just me 2018-06-12T00:56:27 < karlp> only places we saw it served were like ~1.2kg minimum 2018-06-12T00:56:29 < BrainDamage> it's half of a kilo of a Tbone steak 2018-06-12T00:56:31 < BrainDamage> min 2018-06-12T00:56:33 < BrainDamage> yeah 2018-06-12T00:56:45 < BrainDamage> the smallest serving is 0.5kg 2018-06-12T00:56:48 < karlp> they looked _fabulous_ but needed to be two. 2018-06-12T00:56:58 < karlp> yeah, they wouldn't let me order 600g, told me it was 1.2kg or nothing. 2018-06-12T00:57:17 < karlp> fucking, brunello di montalcino is overrated garbage too. 2018-06-12T00:57:28 < karlp> holy shit, so boring. flat, brown, lame arse wine. 2018-06-12T00:58:11 < karlp> the wedding was funny, gnocchi (worst I had on the trip) and then veal tagliata, 2018-06-12T00:58:22 < karlp> allllll the icelanders were like, "well, this looks good, but where's the sauce?!" 2018-06-12T00:58:43 < BrainDamage> for the meat or for the gnocchi? 2018-06-12T00:58:46 < karlp> for the meat 2018-06-12T00:58:58 < BrainDamage> meat here is served with very light sauces 2018-06-12T00:59:05 < nn77> can someone point me in the direction of the document to find a list of registers in an stm32? 2018-06-12T00:59:08 < karlp> yeah, that became very apparent :) 2018-06-12T00:59:09 < BrainDamage> some oil-based ones, or marination 2018-06-12T00:59:15 < karlp> nn77: the refmanual 2018-06-12T00:59:24 < karlp> and then there's also core registers from the arm manuals 2018-06-12T00:59:30 < nn77> I must be looking in the wrong place. OK thanks 2018-06-12T00:59:39 < karlp> I didn't mind, but it was funny hearing the tables of icelanders all say the same thing 2018-06-12T00:59:52 < karlp> they'll put fucking bernaise on anything here. 2018-06-12T00:59:57 < karlp> same with salt though, 2018-06-12T01:00:21 < nn77> ah, USART Registers 2018-06-12T01:00:28 < karlp> we asked for salt in one place, (therew was salt on the chips) server went away to check, "no, sorry, we have tomatos?" 2018-06-12T01:00:28 -!- tct [~tct@adsl-130-227.dsl.init7.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-12T01:00:54 < karlp> and during the wedding someone asked for salt, and two servers came over giggle wearing gloves and carefully sprinkled a little salt on the persons plate and walked away, still giggling 2018-06-12T01:01:25 < kakimir> englishman: show me some canada stuff 2018-06-12T01:01:50 < BrainDamage> I bet it's because you went to either fancy snob places or beause they classified you as a dirty foreigner 2018-06-12T01:02:00 < BrainDamage> I don't remember ever being snobbed for asking for salt 2018-06-12T01:02:01 < karlp> definitely the latter 2018-06-12T01:02:13 < karlp> which we _clearly_ were. 2018-06-12T01:02:28 < karlp> anyway, good trip. good times. 2018-06-12T01:02:47 < karlp> another reminder to book _alllll_ attempted tourist attractions in advance. 2018-06-12T01:03:13 < BrainDamage> This is a bit the peak season, afterwards it'll be way too hot for comfort 2018-06-12T01:03:21 < upgrdman> you should bring your own packets of salt, and maybe even your own silverwear, for that extra weird/hipster vibe 2018-06-12T01:03:23 < karlp> yeah, it was already too hot for us on some days 2018-06-12T01:03:39 < upgrdman> make sure its organic salt, etc. free range too 2018-06-12T01:03:43 < englishman> kakimir: https://i.imgur.com/dXlWZuv.jpg 2018-06-12T01:03:52 < karlp> was really nice to see how many tourists were italian though 2018-06-12T01:04:53 < BrainDamage> it's pretty ingrained in our culture to visit the rest, it probably has to do with how much it's heterogenous, so you can find rather different places or even culture just by travelling short distances 2018-06-12T01:05:12 < karlp> it was cool, I've met icelanders who'ev barely seen ove the next hill. 2018-06-12T01:05:22 < BrainDamage> If I travel more than 300km, I won't understand a fucking word they'll speak to me 2018-06-12T01:05:23 < karlp> australians are mixed, some travel a lot, some not at all. 2018-06-12T01:05:31 < stvn> Don’t visit Australia we have nothing 2018-06-12T01:05:36 < upgrdman> heh. when im in shanghai, i can notice the chinese tourists too. kinda funny when you feel more at-home than the domestic tourists. 2018-06-12T01:05:36 < englishman> kakimir: https://i.imgur.com/xqvM9rj.jpg 2018-06-12T01:05:47 < stvn> Except for Bunnings sausages 2018-06-12T01:05:57 < karlp> I got to spend an hour or so in an empty bar watching third division football, while waiting for the bachelor party group to arrive, that was entertaining. 2018-06-12T01:06:07 < upgrdman> also, wtf is it when chinagirls LOVING to take selfies with their drinks 2018-06-12T01:06:15 < stvn> Ty englishman 2018-06-12T01:06:19 < karlp> almost empty stadium, except for the ~300 topless men cheering for one of the teams 2018-06-12T01:06:44 < kakimir> englishman: yes 2018-06-12T01:06:46 < BrainDamage> The low ranking teams hooligans are possibly worse than the top tier 2018-06-12T01:07:03 < kakimir> I need a kitten 2018-06-12T01:07:22 < BrainDamage> Buy a rat, and hang it from a string, wait for a kitten to catch it 2018-06-12T01:07:23 < upgrdman> kakimir, lonely? 2018-06-12T01:07:25 < englishman> kakimir: https://i.imgur.com/lqZlB43.jpg 2018-06-12T01:07:26 < Steffanx> Money wasting creatures, kakimir 2018-06-12T01:08:04 < nn77> so if I want to check the DEM (bit 14) in the USART_CR3 on USART2 2018-06-12T01:08:25 < nn77> USART_CR3 & DEM doesn't sork, but I guess USART_CR3 & (1<<14) should work 2018-06-12T01:08:34 < nn77> but that still doesn't tell it which UART I'm querying 2018-06-12T01:09:08 < upgrdman> iirc its like USART1->USART_CR3 2018-06-12T01:09:13 < upgrdman> but its been a while 2018-06-12T01:09:14 < BrainDamage> karlp: if you want any bar to love you, ask them to talk about their regional alcohols 2018-06-12T01:09:26 < BrainDamage> you'll have to beg them to release you 2018-06-12T01:10:26 < BrainDamage> Each place has rather different liquors 2018-06-12T01:11:14 < nn77> Ah! USART2->CR3 2018-06-12T01:12:14 < nn77> IT WORKS! 2018-06-12T01:12:18 < upgrdman> ya 2018-06-12T01:12:30 < nn77> thanks upgrdman and karlp 2018-06-12T01:12:37 < upgrdman> and iirc there are defines for like USART_CR3_FOO in the newer cmsis 2018-06-12T01:13:34 < nn77> looks like there's USART_CR3_DEM and *_Pos and *_Msk 2018-06-12T01:13:42 < upgrdman> ya those 2018-06-12T01:14:01 < englishman> Steffanx: can confirm https://i.imgur.com/MzxmTVo.jpg?1 2018-06-12T01:14:16 < stvn> Ty 2018-06-12T01:14:44 < kakimir> canadian shikkels 2018-06-12T01:14:53 < stvn> Yeah 2018-06-12T01:15:19 < kakimir> pic of boss counting daily revenue 2018-06-12T01:24:08 < karlp> BrainDamage: wasn't much of a drinking tour either unfortunately. 2018-06-12T01:24:31 < karlp> still managed a bunch of italian beers I hadn't seen before, some good :) 2018-06-12T01:26:14 < BrainDamage> If you steer clear from the commercial ones, you can find surprisingly good stuff 2018-06-12T01:26:24 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T01:26:35 < karlp> yeah, was generally happy :) 2018-06-12T01:26:50 < stvn> BrainDamage can I go to the RCF factory? 2018-06-12T01:27:25 < BrainDamage> stvn: that's opposite side of italy for me 2018-06-12T01:27:27 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-12T01:27:42 < BrainDamage> but if you want, I can hurl a brick through ST's offices 2018-06-12T01:28:00 < stvn> Do it lol 2018-06-12T01:28:15 < stvn> Throw nxp kit 2018-06-12T01:28:27 < BrainDamage> ah wait, not opposite side, still 300km 2018-06-12T01:28:39 < stvn> hokay 2018-06-12T01:28:50 < BrainDamage> ST instead is within biking range 2018-06-12T01:29:04 < stvn> RCF is first confirmed STM32 audio user 2018-06-12T01:29:39 < nn77> Mmmmm... RCF 2018-06-12T01:42:49 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T01:46:26 < emeb> wat? "first confirmed STM32 audio user"? 2018-06-12T01:47:16 < nn77> I'm guessing stvn meant the first audio company confirmed to be using stm32 2018-06-12T01:47:28 < emeb> hmph 2018-06-12T01:49:29 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:d49f:742d:fb16:67f3] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-12T01:49:58 * emeb had STM32-based audio gear on the market 4 years ago 2018-06-12T01:50:56 < emeb> nope - make that 6 years ago 2018-06-12T01:54:06 < stvn> first i saw 2018-06-12T01:54:17 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T01:54:20 < Laurenceb_> muh muh MUH 2018-06-12T01:54:24 < stvn> Muh 2018-06-12T01:54:36 < Laurenceb_> muh gui 2018-06-12T01:54:40 < Laurenceb_> reeeeeee 2018-06-12T01:54:44 < Laurenceb_> freaking segfaults 2018-06-12T01:55:12 < stvn> Ah 2018-06-12T01:55:18 < stvn> U can fix that yeah? 2018-06-12T01:55:20 < nn77> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E 2018-06-12T01:55:25 < Laurenceb_> segfaulting opening a file atm 2018-06-12T01:55:29 < nn77> oh segfaults, not seagulls 2018-06-12T01:55:35 < Laurenceb_> makes 0 sense, I think the debugger is screwed 2018-06-12T01:56:23 < stvn> Is it pro approved debugger? 2018-06-12T01:56:28 < Laurenceb_> debugger is just outputting random shit 2018-06-12T01:56:43 < Laurenceb_> its the Qt thing 2018-06-12T01:56:51 < Laurenceb_> Qt Creator 2018-06-12T01:57:01 < stvn> Yeah qt I hear that is great 2018-06-12T01:57:07 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-12T01:58:08 < Laurenceb_> thing is the trace sort of make sense 2018-06-12T01:58:25 < Laurenceb_> segfault inside malloc which was called from fopen 2018-06-12T01:58:39 < Laurenceb_> maybe it breaks malloc 2018-06-12T01:59:01 < stvn> hmm 2018-06-12T02:00:07 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/0E6G2Fc 2018-06-12T02:00:48 < Laurenceb_> https://i.imgur.com/2B7dMZP.jpg 2018-06-12T02:10:44 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T02:14:09 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-12T02:17:33 < stvn> What is it 2018-06-12T02:17:41 < stvn> A meme? 2018-06-12T02:42:04 < upgrdman> what pressure should bike tires be at? mtb 2018-06-12T02:42:39 < upgrdman> or do you just eyeball it so it doesnt bulge when normal weight 2018-06-12T02:43:04 < karlp> it's written on the sidewall 2018-06-12T02:43:12 < upgrdman> orly 2018-06-12T02:43:14 < upgrdman> ok 2018-06-12T02:43:16 < karlp> (I use ~40psi or so) 2018-06-12T02:43:34 < Laurenceb_> thats the max pressure 2018-06-12T02:43:47 < upgrdman> time to hypermile at 80psi, amirite 2018-06-12T02:43:48 < Laurenceb_> you should do it by eyeball imo 2018-06-12T02:43:57 < karlp> lolrence, no, bike tires often say " infflat to x-y psi" 2018-06-12T02:44:00 < karlp> not a max. 2018-06-12T02:44:38 < Laurenceb_> on the bike or the tires? 2018-06-12T02:44:42 < karlp> tires 2018-06-12T02:45:05 < Laurenceb_> wait bike as in pedal cycle? 2018-06-12T02:45:13 < upgrdman> yes 2018-06-12T02:45:29 < upgrdman> not motorcycle / scooter 2018-06-12T02:45:49 < Laurenceb_> oh lol ok, that makes more sense 2018-06-12T02:46:10 < upgrdman> britbongs call bikes "pedal cycles" ? 2018-06-12T02:55:36 < BrainDamage> either has prints for the pressure ... 2018-06-12T03:04:01 < Laurenceb_> upgrdman: we say bike for pedal bike 2018-06-12T03:04:06 < Laurenceb_> and motorbike for obvious 2018-06-12T03:04:11 < upgrdman> k 2018-06-12T03:14:50 < ds2> what's a unicycle called by the brits? 2018-06-12T03:14:54 < ds2> :D 2018-06-12T03:29:21 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-12T03:34:22 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-12T03:34:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-12T03:42:23 < bitmask> stupid printer keeps pausing creating blobs 2018-06-12T03:42:23 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/smjdya4 2018-06-12T03:42:36 < bitmask> other than that it was a pretty good benchy 2018-06-12T03:44:38 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-12T03:44:55 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T03:48:32 < Thorn> why hasn't anybody told me that MDIO needs a pullup :/ 2018-06-12T03:51:03 < dongs> whats a mdio 2018-06-12T03:54:04 < Thorn> ethernet SMI data io 2018-06-12T03:54:54 < dongs> a 2018-06-12T03:57:52 < Cracki> bitmask, does this look 3d-printed? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfYtPRlVQAAJMKb.jpg:orig 2018-06-12T03:58:15 < Cracki> it appears to have blobby edges too 2018-06-12T03:59:07 < bitmask> it looks like a horrible photoshop job 2018-06-12T04:14:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T04:33:55 < R0b0t1> It looks like paper Cracki 2018-06-12T04:34:04 < R0b0t1> Have you seen that cheap pulpy stuff? 2018-06-12T04:34:07 < R0b0t1> Kind of like egg cartons 2018-06-12T04:34:18 < Cracki> actually that's a meme 2018-06-12T04:34:26 < Cracki> a recreation of a porn scene 2018-06-12T04:34:32 < R0b0t1> Oh no 2018-06-12T04:34:45 < Cracki> even the colors match 2018-06-12T04:34:59 < Ultrasauce> https://i.redd.it/5duwvlc2nd311.jpg 2018-06-12T04:35:12 < Ultrasauce> laurenceb-tier link warning 2018-06-12T04:35:17 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@ip-142-232-164-95.ptr.bcit.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T04:35:25 < Cracki> exactly that 2018-06-12T04:35:56 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@ip-142-232-164-95.ptr.bcit.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-12T04:36:49 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@ip-142-232-164-95.ptr.bcit.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T04:40:32 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32252.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T04:41:56 < Thorn> Ultrasauce: put this onto it http://1000logos.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Brazers-logos.jpg 2018-06-12T04:44:46 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A3264B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-12T04:53:22 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T05:01:35 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-12T05:10:42 < Ultrasauce> subtlety is key 2018-06-12T05:14:57 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T05:23:55 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T05:32:38 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-12T05:32:38 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T05:32:38 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-12T06:14:45 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T06:15:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T06:16:44 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@ip-142-232-164-95.ptr.bcit.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-12T06:24:19 < bitmask> "Hi. Sorry for the convenience. 2018-06-12T06:24:20 < bitmask> oh china 2018-06-12T07:01:38 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-12T07:02:52 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T07:06:05 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-12T07:09:46 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T07:14:23 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-12T07:15:28 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T07:17:30 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T07:17:56 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T07:26:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T07:38:41 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 2018-06-12T07:40:41 < dongs> R2COM: tell your boss to fucking make some new software for CY4500 to support new USB-PD shit 2018-06-12T07:44:22 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T07:48:31 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-12T07:55:18 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T07:58:05 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T07:58:12 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-12T08:08:17 < jadew> how do you speed up a 3d print? 2018-06-12T08:11:04 < dongs> by tossing it in the trash 2018-06-12T08:11:43 < dongs> Racist harassment of 'Last Jedi' star Kelly Marie Tran and the 'Solo' backlash: Lucasfilm’s problem isn’t the movies, it’s trolls who want only the nostalgia of their youth, like "old Luke Skywalker hiding on an island from everything new," writes columnist Marc Bernardin. 2018-06-12T08:11:48 < dongs> haha 2018-06-12T08:15:39 < Peter_M> "we made shit movies, spergs are sperging out, its not our fault they're sperging out" 2018-06-12T08:17:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-12T08:45:48 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-12T08:53:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-94ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T08:58:15 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T09:03:40 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-12T09:03:43 < stvn> last pumper 2018-06-12T09:10:03 < dongs> mm, pump 2018-06-12T09:10:05 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@174.138.3.137] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T09:10:08 < dongs> smooth shaft 2018-06-12T09:11:03 < Hamilton> Your daily dose of USB: https://it.slashdot.org/story/18/06/11/1814226/its-2018-and-usb-type-c-is-still-a-mess#comments 2018-06-12T09:12:14 < dongs> Same problem on a STM32F767 (silicon revision is 'Z'). SDIO fails after a few minutes of idle and is impossible to recover. I'm afraid this may be a silicon bug that is not in the errata (yet), because I can see on the scope that the SDCLK output signal gets stuck at high level and needs reset to recover. The clock is generated by the STM chip and during normal operation is at a continuous 24 MHz. There is no code to suspend this clock that is actually called by any 2018-06-12T09:16:06 < jpa-> can't it recover even by RCC reset? 2018-06-12T09:16:32 < dongs> no 2018-06-12T09:16:56 < dongs> sd_DeInit iirc does pulse the rcc clock 2018-06-12T09:23:15 < dongs> trump owned best korea 2018-06-12T09:31:58 < dongs> "a very worthy, very smart negotiator" 2018-06-12T09:32:13 < dongs> "he's a very talented man" 2018-06-12T09:32:15 < dongs> nice. 2018-06-12T09:42:06 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T09:50:43 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-94ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-12T10:04:38 < fest> dongs: could it be some kind of counter overflowing? 2^32 / (24e6) = 2m58s 2018-06-12T10:05:06 < dongs> it resets at 504 seconds on F401 or F405 or someshit hardware here 2018-06-12T10:06:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T10:14:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T10:15:21 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-12T10:23:00 < Steffanx> Fests theory is easy to test by lowering the clock speed. 2018-06-12T10:24:21 < Steffanx> I assume dongs already ruled out sd card issues? 2018-06-12T10:27:53 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T10:32:23 < dongs> the issue is actually hal 2018-06-12T10:35:18 < Steffanx> Uh? 2018-06-12T10:35:42 < dongs> have identical test code that jsut rads SD every 5 mins 2018-06-12T10:35:49 < dongs> one hal one stdperiph 2018-06-12T10:35:53 < dongs> same latest fatfs 2018-06-12T10:35:55 < dongs> hal will fail 2018-06-12T10:37:40 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T10:40:36 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-12T10:40:53 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T10:41:55 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T10:41:55 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-12T10:41:55 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T10:43:42 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUP_vQoDALI 2018-06-12T10:44:11 < dongs> who? 2018-06-12T10:44:16 < dongs> why the fuck would anyone care 2018-06-12T10:46:56 < jadew> I think he cares 2018-06-12T10:47:15 < dongs> it didnt seem like he did in teh video 2018-06-12T10:47:17 < dongs> but then its just me 2018-06-12T10:47:36 < jadew> probably didn't know 2018-06-12T10:48:03 < jadew> someone should have told him 2018-06-12T10:49:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T11:00:55 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T11:09:36 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T11:19:30 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T11:23:49 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - https://znc.in] 2018-06-12T11:24:34 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:06:04 < day> dongs: fitting description after 1 year of twitter bashing lol 2018-06-12T12:11:24 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@174.138.3.137] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:12:00 -!- Hamilton2 [~Hamilton@174.138.3.137] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T12:12:45 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@64.79.53.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-12T12:13:01 < dongs> which one? 2018-06-12T12:14:05 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@174.138.3.137] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-12T12:14:47 < day> 06:31 < dongs> "a very worthy, very smart negotiator" 2018-06-12T12:14:47 < day> 06:32 < dongs> "he's a very talented man" 2018-06-12T12:14:51 < dongs> aha 2018-06-12T12:15:05 < dongs> that was trump re: best kim 2018-06-12T12:17:10 < zyp> haha 2018-06-12T12:23:09 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-12T12:23:25 < dongs> hm i got a jappu S5 thats bootlooping nonstopeven after flashing original factory firmware 2018-06-12T12:23:28 < dongs> RIP right? 2018-06-12T12:23:37 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:23:41 -!- mirage335 [~mirage335@mirage335-base.soaringindustries.space] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:25:59 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-12T12:26:28 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:27:42 < Haohmaru> dongs retry? 2018-06-12T12:28:00 < Haohmaru> or is the bootloader dumb 2018-06-12T12:29:09 < dongs> i can get into download mode just fine 2018-06-12T12:29:11 < dongs> and flash wahtever i want 2018-06-12T12:29:14 < dongs> but it never boots after that 2018-06-12T12:29:25 < Haohmaru> huh 2018-06-12T12:29:33 < Haohmaru> broken firmware? 2018-06-12T12:30:04 < dongs> no, official manufacturer .zip 2018-06-12T12:30:10 < dongs> with .md5 and signed by samsung or wahtever 2018-06-12T12:30:10 < Haohmaru> mmm noice 2018-06-12T12:30:19 < Haohmaru> oh, samsung 2018-06-12T12:30:29 < Haohmaru> smartphone? 2018-06-12T12:30:33 < dongs> well what else could possibly S5 mean 2018-06-12T12:30:33 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-12T12:30:46 < Haohmaru> S5 could mean anything and nothing 2018-06-12T12:30:56 < Haohmaru> u should know this 2018-06-12T12:31:18 < Haohmaru> oh, i've seen smartphones "bootlooping" 2018-06-12T12:31:26 < Haohmaru> such a smart sight 2018-06-12T12:31:48 < Haohmaru> makes the owner feel so much smarter too 2018-06-12T12:32:08 < Haohmaru> nice way to troll people, samsung 2018-06-12T12:32:26 < Haohmaru> or.. google? who writes the bootloaders? 2018-06-12T12:32:30 < dongs> i shoulda known better than engaging in a "conversation" with you, you fucking opensores imbecile 2018-06-12T12:32:39 < Haohmaru> >:) 2018-06-12T12:32:58 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:35:15 < Haohmaru> i've heard that the smartest people curse/use vulgar language the most 2018-06-12T12:38:04 < Steffanx> Lol. Best answer of the day. "Q: Can you give me example code?" "A: No, somehow my Android Smartphone refuses to install LPCXPresso" :) 2018-06-12T12:39:23 < dongs> cannot install lunix 2018-06-12T12:43:08 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T12:44:04 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqh8fuSybGM 2018-06-12T12:47:09 < dongs> stvn is one letter away from stvd 2018-06-12T12:48:09 < stvn> oh god 2018-06-12T12:50:38 < Steffanx> ST Visual Develop? 2018-06-12T12:50:48 < stvn> that sounds horrid 2018-06-12T12:50:52 < Steffanx> The awful keilish stm8 ide? 2018-06-12T12:51:00 < dongs> y 2018-06-12T12:51:07 < dongs> its actually quite great 2018-06-12T12:51:18 < stvn> you're drunk again 2018-06-12T12:53:51 < PaulFertser> STM8-controlled lubrication supply, designed by a professional female engineer: https://pikabu.ru/story/kak_obmanut_i_unizit_komara_5153277 2018-06-12T12:54:40 < dongs> what the actual fuck 2018-06-12T12:55:59 < PaulFertser> You got it right, it is actual anal dildo fuck! 2018-06-12T12:56:57 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T12:57:22 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:58:25 < stvn> ##stm32 2018-06-12T12:58:35 < stvn> 24/7 2018-06-12T12:59:30 < invzim> that will do wonders for my youtube history :) 2018-06-12T13:00:10 < PaulFertser> That's * stvn, you should learn multiplication 2018-06-12T13:00:58 < stvn> ty 2018-06-12T13:01:08 < PaulFertser> Always welcome :) 2018-06-12T13:10:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T13:14:23 < dongs> ok so.. 2018-06-12T13:14:33 < dongs> HAL sets up SDIO DMA in 'peripheral flow control' mode 2018-06-12T13:14:43 < dongs> which means no CNDTR but just ending when peripheral says so 2018-06-12T13:15:02 < dongs> stdperiph / st sdio lib sets it up normally 2018-06-12T13:15:48 < stvn> Steffanx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Teapot 2018-06-12T13:36:50 < jadew> lol PaulFertser 2018-06-12T13:37:51 < kakimir> teapot.. was that cuba? 2018-06-12T13:40:06 < Steffanx> Explains why Thorn needs so many stm8s 2018-06-12T13:40:13 < jadew> PaulFertser, she commented in the comments, she's much more deviant than your regular engineer 2018-06-12T13:40:41 < jadew> unless she's a troll 2018-06-12T13:40:43 < Haohmaru> reinventing the wheel much 2018-06-12T13:43:09 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T13:44:11 < Steffanx> Doesnt look like a wheel to me 2018-06-12T13:44:45 < Haohmaru> 'o-o' 2018-06-12T13:45:02 < PaulFertser> jadew: yeah :) 2018-06-12T13:48:03 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxkqufzxtvqvlvzb] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T13:54:30 < englishman> STVD is the best 100% free ide 2018-06-12T13:54:43 < englishman> nothing else comes close 2018-06-12T13:54:49 < dongs> its true 2018-06-12T13:54:54 < dongs> it also has a working debugger 2018-06-12T13:54:58 < englishman> mostly because of that 2018-06-12T13:55:03 < englishman> with actual register names and shit 2018-06-12T13:55:17 < englishman> not just 0xFFFF7872 = 0x40927454 2018-06-12T13:55:35 < englishman> well in 8bit but whatever 2018-06-12T13:56:49 * Haohmaru drops a pic12F on the concrete floor.. 2018-06-12T14:10:35 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-12T14:12:14 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T14:12:50 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-12T14:29:27 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T14:29:33 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/MPSSouthwark/status/1005845179222429696 2018-06-12T14:29:54 < Laurenceb> le epin trolls 2018-06-12T14:30:55 < dongs> looking for your long lost brother? 2018-06-12T14:31:36 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-12T14:32:53 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/7gbQ9N2 sheeeet 2018-06-12T14:33:14 < Laurenceb> I'm sure they were 100% serious 2018-06-12T14:33:40 < karlp> ZEERRRRRROO TOLLLLERANCECECEECCEEEEEEE!"#!##1 2018-06-12T14:33:44 < mawk> what happens if I read a gpio pin that is in alternate mode 2018-06-12T14:34:01 < Laurenceb> you go to jail 2018-06-12T14:34:02 < mawk> especially, it's a timer channel 2018-06-12T14:34:05 < karlp> iirc you can read it's state just fine. 2018-06-12T14:34:06 < mawk> :( 2018-06-12T14:34:09 < mawk> nice 2018-06-12T14:34:11 < mawk> thanks 2018-06-12T14:34:13 < Laurenceb> it should read the state just fine 2018-06-12T14:34:23 < karlp> but you shoudl perhaps question why... 2018-06-12T14:34:29 < Laurenceb> dunno about analogue input pins tho 2018-06-12T14:34:35 < mawk> the timer does input capture for rising and falling edge 2018-06-12T14:34:39 < mawk> and I want to know which one it is on event 2018-06-12T14:34:49 < mawk> maybe there's a timer register bit for that tho 2018-06-12T14:36:53 < Laurenceb> >I don't get what the draw of Paris is. Half the people there aren't even French, and the other half actually are French - so that's even worse. 2018-06-12T14:36:55 < Laurenceb> kekked 2018-06-12T14:37:21 < mawk> lies 2018-06-12T14:37:29 < mawk> 90% aren't french 2018-06-12T14:37:39 < mawk> or french that got their papers 1 month ago 2018-06-12T14:37:40 < Laurenceb> thank goodness 2018-06-12T14:38:47 < Laurenceb> this is now a troll the French channel 2018-06-12T14:43:50 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-12T14:45:32 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-12T14:46:01 < Haohmaru> this week on ##stm32 - we're trolling the french! 2018-06-12T14:46:07 < Haohmaru> next week - it might be YOU 2018-06-12T14:47:29 < Laurenceb> ok tiem to do some work 2018-06-12T14:47:39 < Haohmaru> aww noes 2018-06-12T14:47:43 < Laurenceb> I need to find what triggers my segfault 2018-06-12T14:47:58 < Haohmaru> a fault, obviously 2018-06-12T14:48:15 < Haohmaru> check yer pointerz 2018-06-12T14:48:54 < Laurenceb> yeah but the debugger shows something in the middle of tons of Qt functions 2018-06-12T14:49:00 < Laurenceb> no clue where the error is :( 2018-06-12T14:49:17 < Haohmaru> look back then 2018-06-12T14:49:33 < Haohmaru> the callstack thing 2018-06-12T14:51:15 < c10ud> Laurenceb, valgrind that shit 2018-06-12T14:51:25 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-12T14:51:40 < c10ud> iirc valgrind --leak-check=full or something like that 2018-06-12T14:53:24 < Laurenceb> ok, might be an issue with Qt? 2018-06-12T14:53:53 < Laurenceb> oh its built in lol 2018-06-12T14:54:11 < Laurenceb> Tools > Options > Analyzer 2018-06-12T14:54:19 < Laurenceb> ok thanks 2018-06-12T14:57:26 < invzim> allreet, the j-link clonse has a jumper on the PCB to make pin1 voltage sense instead of voltage source/sense 2018-06-12T15:09:44 < Laurenceb> is it a bad idea to resize a bytearray in Qt? 2018-06-12T15:09:49 < Laurenceb> as in resize it a lot 2018-06-12T15:10:14 < Haohmaru> Laurenceb maybe "reserve" a certain size 2018-06-12T15:10:25 < Laurenceb> yeah I'll do it that way 2018-06-12T15:14:54 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T15:16:21 < c10ud> Laurenceb, what's wrong in keeping it big and just noting out the len (if you're worried about this) 2018-06-12T15:16:36 < Laurenceb> yeah I guess pc has lots of ram 2018-06-12T15:17:41 < karlp> overoptimized as usual 2018-06-12T15:20:06 < Haohmaru> every high-level language programmer? 2018-06-12T15:27:39 < Laurenceb> still making no sense 2018-06-12T15:27:42 < Laurenceb> >QTextStream out(&buttontext); 2018-06-12T15:27:49 < Laurenceb> thats where its segfaulting atm 2018-06-12T15:28:23 < Laurenceb> nothing looks wrong with buttontext in the debugger 2018-06-12T15:28:24 < Haohmaru> wut's buttontext? 2018-06-12T15:28:35 < Laurenceb> QString buttontext="Recording: "; 2018-06-12T15:29:27 < Haohmaru> maybe step into the constructor and see where eggzactly it goes wrong 2018-06-12T15:29:38 < Laurenceb> yeah but its all Qt code 2018-06-12T15:29:53 < Laurenceb> looks like it calls malloc which segfaults internally 2018-06-12T15:30:15 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T15:30:32 < Laurenceb> maybe an earlier call to malloc broke it? 2018-06-12T15:31:51 < mawk> you broke page metadata 2018-06-12T15:31:56 < mawk> valgrind doesn't say anything ? 2018-06-12T15:33:13 < Laurenceb> havent got it working yet 2018-06-12T15:33:17 < Laurenceb> ok tiem to do that 2018-06-12T15:33:59 < mawk> no configuration required, you just run it under valgrind and it magically points out every location where you do bad things to the memory 2018-06-12T15:34:08 < mawk> with the CLI at least, with the Qt GUI thing it's maybe harder 2018-06-12T15:35:45 < Laurenceb> hmm that was easy 2018-06-12T15:35:52 < Laurenceb> ok its running in Qt creator now 2018-06-12T15:35:57 < Laurenceb> and its errored 2018-06-12T15:35:59 < Laurenceb> >=11389== (action on error) vgdb me ... 2018-06-12T15:36:05 < Laurenceb> dunno what this means lol 2018-06-12T15:36:50 < mawk> how is it possible 2018-06-12T15:36:53 < mawk> to make valgrind crash 2018-06-12T15:37:43 < Laurenceb> wait valgrind crashed?! 2018-06-12T15:38:02 < Haohmaru> tiem to run valgrind thru valgrind? 2018-06-12T15:38:10 < karlp> paste a little more context plz 2018-06-12T15:39:46 < mawk> it's a message from your app maybe then Laurenceb ? 2018-06-12T15:39:52 < mawk> or a message from the Qt runtime 2018-06-12T15:40:02 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/q0Ben2O.png 2018-06-12T15:40:06 < Laurenceb> thats what I'm seeing 2018-06-12T15:40:55 < BrainDamage> do you actually need a gui 2018-06-12T15:40:57 < mawk> it looks like Qt Creator is running valgrind in some mode where it's coupled with a debugger 2018-06-12T15:41:03 < mawk> doing it from the CLI would be simpler 2018-06-12T15:41:08 < BrainDamage> and why is not in visual basic, pinging someone on irc 2018-06-12T15:41:11 < mawk> else you need to tweak the valgrind invocation command 2018-06-12T15:41:40 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-12T15:42:02 < Laurenceb> well its actually stopped in the malloc call that happens prior to the segfault 2018-06-12T15:42:04 < Laurenceb> interesting 2018-06-12T15:42:52 < mawk> it should say stuff before that 2018-06-12T15:42:59 < mawk> it lists every memory misuse 2018-06-12T15:42:59 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 2018-06-12T15:43:11 < Laurenceb> aha spotted it 2018-06-12T15:43:15 < mawk> like out of bounds array access, tampering with malloc metadata, etc 2018-06-12T15:43:23 < Laurenceb> some of the data passed to that function is junk 2018-06-12T15:43:31 < Laurenceb> causing malloc to behave strangely 2018-06-12T15:44:07 < Laurenceb> thanks :D 2018-06-12T15:44:26 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb: valgrind includes a gdb server, so you can connect to it and do the regular gdb debugging on the app running on valgrind's VM. 2018-06-12T15:44:32 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-12T15:45:38 < Haohmaru> hm... maya44 is familiar 2018-06-12T15:45:40 < Haohmaru> ESI audio? 2018-06-12T15:46:54 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-12T15:47:27 < Laurenceb> its nice because I have datasheets for everything inside 2018-06-12T15:47:44 < Laurenceb> and it syncs to usb frame numbers in a documented way 2018-06-12T15:48:06 < Haohmaru> i've been drooling over some ESI cards 2018-06-12T15:48:08 < Laurenceb> so I can (theoretically) sync exactly to the stm32 sensors 2018-06-12T15:49:20 < Laurenceb> I've modded mine so they have knowles mic preamps inside, powered from the usb 2018-06-12T15:49:27 < Laurenceb> gotta blow that budget somehow 2018-06-12T15:50:51 < Laurenceb> added a daughterboard with traco power isolated dc/dc and lots of filtering 2018-06-12T15:51:22 < Laurenceb> now all the mic stuff is floating and usb powered 2018-06-12T15:54:57 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-12T15:55:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-12T15:57:08 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T16:13:17 < Laurenceb> You know, there's no such thing as "thing" so why bother defending a thing since there is no thing to defend! QED 2018-06-12T16:13:18 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-12T16:13:52 < Haohmaru> i didn't understand a thing 2018-06-12T16:14:08 < Laurenceb> kek nice meme response 2018-06-12T16:14:53 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/feKIsDJ 2018-06-12T16:15:54 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/bkBu07b 2018-06-12T16:23:02 < dongs> Of course, if Apple manage to land on the moon, they'll retroactively patent it anyway, and call it iMoon. Then sue everyone who's ever looked at it. 2018-06-12T16:23:05 < dongs> haha 2018-06-12T16:27:29 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T16:27:59 < bitmask> good morning 2018-06-12T16:40:20 < mawk> can I set a timer in input capture mode so that it resets on rising edge and generates a capture interrupt on falling edge ? 2018-06-12T16:40:33 < mawk> the reference manual isn't extremely simple 2018-06-12T16:40:36 < dongs> yeah? 2018-06-12T16:40:40 < dongs> thts the ic1/ic2 thing or wahetver 2018-06-12T16:40:53 < mawk> rising/falling edge for the same channel I mean 2018-06-12T16:41:52 < mawk> I guess that's just luxury, I can just make a substraction for the two values given at each interrupt 2018-06-12T16:44:27 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T16:44:30 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 2018-06-12T16:44:50 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T16:49:01 < dongs> you totally could, im just too lazy to look it up 2018-06-12T16:49:04 < dongs> bedtime 2018-06-12T16:49:28 < mawk> it's 4pm 2018-06-12T16:49:31 < mawk> nobody sleeps at 4pm 2018-06-12T16:57:47 < srk> J just woke up 2018-06-12T16:57:55 < srk> I 2018-06-12T16:59:40 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T17:10:58 < Laurenceb> the memes are real 2018-06-12T17:11:26 < Laurenceb> http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/862238-wojak-feels-guy 2018-06-12T17:22:49 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T17:25:11 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-12T17:25:16 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-12T17:32:21 < englishman> Steffanx: i watched some of that dutchman's shit, looks pretty simple 2018-06-12T17:32:30 < englishman> just throw in some batteries with their own bms, and done 2018-06-12T17:32:39 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T17:32:57 < srk> pretty much, with some smoke breaks 2018-06-12T17:33:27 < Laurenceb> http://www.adomonline.com/ghana-news/man-dies-masturbating-62-times-straight-valentines-day/ 2018-06-12T17:34:35 < Laurenceb> wait that isnt a self confessed troll site 2018-06-12T17:34:39 < Laurenceb> so confuse 2018-06-12T17:36:38 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T17:37:11 < nn77> it's on the internet so it must be true 2018-06-12T17:37:44 < Steffanx> I never said it wad hard, englishman 2018-06-12T17:38:00 < englishman> too bad the distance gauge cannot be changed yet 2018-06-12T17:38:24 < Laurenceb> zyp confirmed as derp https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-06-iq-scores-1970s.html 2018-06-12T17:40:32 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T17:41:48 < englishman> 35mm^2 cable 2018-06-12T17:43:03 < Steffanx> Your crap credit has been depleted for today, Laurenceb 2018-06-12T17:49:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T17:49:58 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-12T17:55:22 < zyp> Laurenceb, yup 2018-06-12T17:56:51 < englishman> zyp, how do i splice large gauge cable like 6/8 gauge (10-13mm^2) together? 2018-06-12T17:57:10 < englishman> i will need to make some joins and i don't think i can use wire nuts. 2018-06-12T18:02:51 < zyp> where? 2018-06-12T18:03:53 < zyp> it's normal to crimp and heatshring splices like that 2018-06-12T18:04:14 < zyp> unless it's in a box or someting where using some sort of clamps would make more sense 2018-06-12T18:06:36 < nn77> if I call __disable_irq() and then call __enable_irq() will any interrupts that should have fired still fire after I re-enable? 2018-06-12T18:07:51 < zyp> yes 2018-06-12T18:08:12 < englishman> really just regular crimps like for automotive? 2018-06-12T18:08:24 < nn77> zyp, thanks 2018-06-12T18:08:29 < englishman> i went and measured the span, it's 6 gauge aluminum so will just use that. 2018-06-12T18:08:40 < englishman> just need to upgrade the house and garage wiring which is 14 gauge. 2018-06-12T18:08:44 < zyp> englishman, idk what they use in automotive, there's normal crimps for home installation 2018-06-12T18:09:07 < zyp> anyway, gtg 2018-06-12T18:09:25 < englishman> https://crimpsupply.com/hammer-indent-crimp-tool.html 2018-06-12T18:09:33 < englishman> like this right? i have one of those 2018-06-12T18:09:36 < englishman> ok, thanks 2018-06-12T18:10:49 < karlp> you have like a tube that you shove both ends into and then crimp down right? 2018-06-12T18:11:57 < englishman> yeah i used those on cars but didn't know they were ok to use for house wiring 2018-06-12T18:12:55 < karlp> local code trumps all. 2018-06-12T18:12:57 < karlp> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/HX-50B-50SC-50D-COPPER-TUBE-TERMINAL-CRIMPING-TOOL-CRIMPING-PILER-crimping-tools/1256413496.html 2018-06-12T18:17:49 < Lux> those work well, bought one for building a spot welder 2018-06-12T18:17:55 < Laurenceb> https://twitter.com/MayorofLondon/status/1006505149588803584 2018-06-12T18:19:07 < Lux> but i wouldn't buy it on aliexpress, as they are about the same on amazon 2018-06-12T18:19:23 < karlp> amazon charges more on shipping and taxes for me personally :) 2018-06-12T18:19:36 < karlp> and the only other difference is supporting american vs supporting chinese 2018-06-12T18:19:57 < Lux> and much faster shipping 2018-06-12T18:20:19 < karlp> again, depending on where you are. 2018-06-12T18:20:29 < karlp> ali sellers normally have varyingmethods of delivery too. 2018-06-12T18:20:58 < Lux> dunno about the us, but in eu free shipping takes ~1 month usually 2018-06-12T18:21:08 < Lux> if you are lucky maybe one week 2018-06-12T18:22:11 < Lux> hmm but yeah local warehouse helps :) 2018-06-12T18:22:26 < karlp> there are other options than free shipping... 2018-06-12T18:22:46 < karlp> amazon to actual .eu is awesome, yes. 2018-06-12T18:23:02 < karlp> amazon to not .eu is ..... lackluster to say the least 2018-06-12T18:23:21 < englishman> A joint compound, capable of penetrating the oxide film and preventing its reforming, shall be used for 2018-06-12T18:23:21 < englishman> terminating or splicing all sizes of stranded aluminum conductors, unless the termination or splice is 2018-06-12T18:23:21 < englishman> approved for use without compound and is so marked. 2018-06-12T18:23:52 < Lux> guess so 2018-06-12T18:24:00 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-12T18:25:21 < englishman> all kinds of little regs like this 2018-06-12T18:31:22 < karlp> yeah, the sort of shit that doesn't matter until your (probably unrelated) insurance claim is denied 2018-06-12T18:35:36 < englishman> well, maybe my insurance claim will be the one that gets a new rule written in its honour. 2018-06-12T18:35:40 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-12T18:37:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-12T18:41:53 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-12T18:47:03 -!- inca_ [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T18:47:07 < kakimir> should parity check return 1 for parity? 2018-06-12T18:47:20 < kakimir> checking even / odd bits 2018-06-12T18:47:31 < kakimir> or should it return 0 2018-06-12T18:51:40 < karlp> wat? 2018-06-12T18:52:39 < kakimir> whatever 2018-06-12T18:52:46 < kakimir> I'll find out soon enough 2018-06-12T18:53:38 < kakimir> karlp: how do I cast array of uint8_t[4] as uint32_t for parity checl 2018-06-12T18:54:20 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-12T18:54:24 < kakimir> better make it safe 2018-06-12T18:55:05 < kakimir> (a[0])|(a[1]<<8)| ... etc. 2018-06-12T18:55:13 < kakimir> so there is no issue of packing or so 2018-06-12T18:55:15 < englishman> how do you want if (paritycheck()) to proceed? 2018-06-12T18:55:52 < kakimir> I read registers to be writen to i2c sensor with paritycheck 2018-06-12T18:56:04 < kakimir> paritycheck outputs to parity bit of those registers 2018-06-12T18:56:09 < kakimir> and result needs to be odd 2018-06-12T18:56:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T18:56:52 < kakimir> so if parity == odd, output = 1 else 0 2018-06-12T18:57:01 < kakimir> *even 2018-06-12T18:57:42 < kakimir> https://stackoverflow.com/a/21618038 2018-06-12T18:58:11 < kakimir> oh I learned to read the last line 2018-06-12T18:58:16 < kakimir> so this thing works for me 2018-06-12T18:58:21 < kakimir> keep it odd 2018-06-12T18:59:07 < englishman> check for both even and odd, if one of them passes then you are good. 2018-06-12T18:59:35 < kakimir> both? 2018-06-12T18:59:40 < kakimir> hey 2018-06-12T18:59:54 < kakimir> doesn't parity stay if I just XOR all the bytes 2018-06-12T19:00:09 < kakimir> bitshifts and shiet looks ugli 2018-06-12T19:00:21 < englishman> you could call it trollpariteetti() 2018-06-12T19:00:48 < kakimir> if even or odd return 1 2018-06-12T19:00:50 < kakimir> ? 2018-06-12T19:08:51 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-djgmfukxfswlljix] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T19:12:12 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T19:16:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T19:31:57 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T19:32:18 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fzmoqtzvgnangzvn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T19:45:34 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T19:55:29 < englishman> Kim Jong Un Offers to Host Peace Talks Between United States and Canada 2018-06-12T19:59:37 < Steffanx> lolz 2018-06-12T20:00:47 * karlp laughs 2018-06-12T20:08:23 < day> rofl 2018-06-12T20:09:42 < day> aww its just a hoax :( 2018-06-12T20:09:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T20:10:05 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:11:13 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-12T20:11:51 < Laurenceb> https://i.imgur.com/gMEWIR1.png 2018-06-12T20:11:56 < Laurenceb> ok I'm v confuse 2018-06-12T20:12:08 < Laurenceb> see v under intf 2018-06-12T20:12:20 < Laurenceb> it doesnt match anything in interfacelist 2018-06-12T20:12:32 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIpUNlEWogY 2018-06-12T20:12:36 < Laurenceb> I was expecting 0xf201c80 2018-06-12T20:13:02 < kakimir> you have learned to comment code 2018-06-12T20:13:09 < Laurenceb> any ideaz wtf is going on? 2018-06-12T20:15:11 < Laurenceb> interfacelist was passed to connectdevices 2018-06-12T20:36:08 < c10ud> a qprocess is fucking with your intf stuff while you still fuck with it in the main thread 2018-06-12T20:36:17 < c10ud> that doesn't look safe, unless you made it so 2018-06-12T20:37:26 < c10ud> also 2018-06-12T20:37:41 < c10ud> you're starting the process before you connect its signals 2018-06-12T20:44:20 < c10ud> also I don't think how iterators are supposed to be used, that may trigger up some weird architecture (documented) fuckup 2018-06-12T20:45:55 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:46:32 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-95-223-40-64.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-12T20:46:36 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800c68d00588157291c3c1b2a.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:46:48 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 2018-06-12T20:46:48 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-95-223-40-64.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:47:10 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-12T20:47:16 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@iscute.moe] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 1.6.0 - http://znc.in] 2018-06-12T20:47:19 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:47:30 -!- MightyPork [~MightyPor@iscute.moe] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:47:51 < c10ud> like (*intf).device.whatever 2018-06-12T20:47:55 -!- hornang [~quassel@185.56.186.27] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2018-06-12T20:48:39 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-dpwbhcytwjemublr] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:49:15 -!- hornang [~quassel@185.56.186.27] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T20:58:17 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T21:02:50 < Laurenceb> hmm ok 2018-06-12T21:03:02 < Laurenceb> might explain why its all fucked 2018-06-12T21:07:00 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-12T21:07:12 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T21:09:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T21:11:07 < Drzacek> great, few days after announcing microsoft buying github and github already dead 2018-06-12T21:11:21 < Steffanx> it is? 2018-06-12T21:11:37 < Steffanx> worksonmymachine.pro 2018-06-12T21:12:18 < Drzacek> http://downdetector.com/status/github/map/ 2018-06-12T21:13:58 < Steffanx> that map lies. 2018-06-12T21:14:02 < Steffanx> im in dutchland and it work 2018-06-12T21:14:03 < Steffanx> ss 2018-06-12T21:14:23 < Laurenceb> 88 2018-06-12T21:14:30 < upgrdman> shithub is working for me too 2018-06-12T21:14:35 < zyp> works for me too 2018-06-12T21:15:01 < Drzacek> must be something wrong with you guys then 2018-06-12T21:15:08 < Drzacek> cause I'm a good person and it doesn't work for me 2018-06-12T21:15:16 < upgrdman> rite 2018-06-12T21:15:49 < zyp> got my new internet connection today, now I have two fiber sockets on the wall 2018-06-12T21:16:09 < Drzacek> works in fscking edge 2018-06-12T21:16:22 < Steffanx> pebkac 2018-06-12T21:16:46 < Drzacek> :[ 2018-06-12T21:25:53 * invzim needs a faster brain 2018-06-12T21:25:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-12T21:27:14 < invzim> anyone had a play with https://www.libtom.net/LibTomCrypt/ ? 2018-06-12T21:29:54 < invzim> or rsa signatures in general 2018-06-12T21:39:14 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T21:42:59 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-12T21:43:10 -!- scummos [scummos@gateway/shell/kde/x-dpwbhcytwjemublr] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-12T21:43:10 -!- scummos [scummos@kde/developer/brauch] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T21:50:05 < Steffanx> My name is Tom. Lets call the libs i make libTom* :D 2018-06-12T21:52:08 < stvn> n 2018-06-12T21:52:44 < Steffanx> emo. 2018-06-12T21:55:38 < stvn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel#/media/File:Flag_of_the_Schutzstaffel.svg 2018-06-12T21:56:49 < zyp> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7387965780.png :D 2018-06-12T22:01:39 < Steffanx> One of this things: nice, but whhhhyy 2018-06-12T22:01:42 < Steffanx> "because i can" 2018-06-12T22:01:49 < stvn> coming soon to australia (2340AD) 2018-06-12T22:06:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T22:06:57 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-12T22:07:04 < stvn> didgeridoo dial-up 2018-06-12T22:07:59 < zyp> well, it's cheaper than my old 120/15-connection 2018-06-12T22:08:51 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/S8iYQ.jpg <- this looks a bit silly though 2018-06-12T22:08:52 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T22:09:31 < Steffanx> so show us your speed test stvn 2018-06-12T22:09:51 < stvn> dial up 2018-06-12T22:10:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T22:10:47 < stvn> one minute 2018-06-12T22:11:10 < Laurenceb> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44452529 2018-06-12T22:11:13 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-12T22:11:20 < Laurenceb> dat isis finger symbol 2018-06-12T22:11:38 < stvn> http://www.speedtest.net/result/7388006604.png 2018-06-12T22:11:47 < Steffanx> ay 2018-06-12T22:11:54 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T22:12:27 < stvn> the NBN contractors destroyed my telephone line 2018-06-12T22:12:59 < Steffanx> All those power wasting leds zyp :P 2018-06-12T22:13:02 < stvn> telstra tried to charge me to fix it, i literally told them to get fucked 2018-06-12T22:13:42 < kakimir> stvn: does anything work in straya? 2018-06-12T22:13:42 < Steffanx> whats a NBN contractor? 2018-06-12T22:13:50 < Steffanx> theepot works 2018-06-12T22:13:51 < kakimir> national broadband network 2018-06-12T22:13:56 < kakimir> #straya 2018-06-12T22:14:01 < stvn> literal niggers hired to fit out the network 2018-06-12T22:14:10 < zyp> stvn, «Faster than 86% of AU» 2018-06-12T22:14:13 < zyp> that's kinda sad 2018-06-12T22:14:26 < stvn> the most unskilled incompetent morons 2018-06-12T22:14:35 < stvn> the lowest bidder 2018-06-12T22:15:10 < zyp> got a bunch of other shit I have no need for either 2018-06-12T22:15:11 < stvn> so of course during the rough-in phase they're going to accidentally fuck up whatever is in their way 2018-06-12T22:15:22 < zyp> some zyxel router thing 2018-06-12T22:15:46 < zyp> and some IPTV STB 2018-06-12T22:15:56 < zyp> with harddrive for recording and everything 2018-06-12T22:16:17 < zyp> I don't watch tv so I don't know wtf to do with it 2018-06-12T22:16:43 < Steffanx> send it back? 2018-06-12T22:16:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T22:16:53 < stvn> naturally our country is too busy trying to stop dumb fucks beating women and drink driving 2018-06-12T22:17:15 < stvn> we can't progress past that stage in 2018 2018-06-12T22:17:34 < zyp> apparently it's worth a couple thousand bucks (that I didn't pay because I signed up for a promotion offer) 2018-06-12T22:17:45 < Steffanx> is it actually yours? 2018-06-12T22:18:01 < zyp> they said so 2018-06-12T22:18:08 < Steffanx> :) 2018-06-12T22:18:34 < zyp> the ONT is property of the ISP, but the rest of the shit is apparently mine 2018-06-12T22:18:57 < stvn> i live in 'the lucky country' 2018-06-12T22:19:04 < Steffanx> You can move you know? 2018-06-12T22:19:13 < stvn> i'll get to that 2018-06-12T22:19:21 < Steffanx> Just take charlie and stvn with you. 2018-06-12T22:19:34 < stvn> how 'bout crt? 2018-06-12T22:19:41 < Steffanx> Too heavy. 2018-06-12T22:19:49 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-12T22:19:56 < zyp> stvn, this appartment with two fiber lines is gonna get available in february or so, I can hook you up 2018-06-12T22:20:07 < stvn> haha cool 2018-06-12T22:20:28 < Steffanx> norway is too cold for stvn 2018-06-12T22:20:42 < stvn> hmm 2018-06-12T22:21:09 < zyp> according to my friends already living in the area I'm buying a house in, another ISP is apparently starting to serve that area later this year 2018-06-12T22:21:40 < Steffanx> Werent you going to get something build or is that not for now? 2018-06-12T22:21:52 < zyp> that's what I'm talking about 2018-06-12T22:21:57 < zyp> it'll be done in january 2018-06-12T22:22:21 < Steffanx> oh lol, i read something completely different. 2018-06-12T22:22:24 < Steffanx> not sure how 2018-06-12T22:22:42 < Steffanx> or somehow i made up February is 2 months from now. 2018-06-12T22:22:42 < zyp> anyway, I like this shit 2018-06-12T22:23:14 < zyp> traditionally there's only been at most one decent-ish ISP in the areas I've lived 2018-06-12T22:23:35 < zyp> but now they're apparently starting to compete and have overlapping coverage 2018-06-12T22:25:22 < stvn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_Norway 2018-06-12T22:25:34 < stvn> interesting place 2018-06-12T22:25:43 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.62.138] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T22:26:39 < Steffanx> 99% damn 2018-06-12T22:27:02 < Steffanx> And we still burn coal. 2018-06-12T22:27:11 < Steffanx> ( and natural gas ) 2018-06-12T22:27:14 < stvn> the whole renewable energy program was cancelled in australia because a bird flew into a wind turbine 2018-06-12T22:27:38 < Steffanx> What does aussieland do? Solar and .. ? 2018-06-12T22:27:43 < stvn> lol 2018-06-12T22:28:46 < stvn> coal 2018-06-12T22:30:37 < stvn> and the other usual suspects 2018-06-12T22:31:23 < kakimir> stvn: do you have nucular? 2018-06-12T22:31:48 < stvn> na 2018-06-12T22:32:06 < kakimir> you don't have hydro 2018-06-12T22:32:11 < kakimir> I assume 2018-06-12T22:32:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.62.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-12T22:32:21 < kakimir> what do you have? 2018-06-12T22:32:31 < stvn> maybe 10% hydro 2018-06-12T22:32:44 < stvn> coal and gas for the rest 2018-06-12T22:32:46 < kakimir> seriously? 2018-06-12T22:33:00 < kakimir> I thought there was basically no water in there 2018-06-12T22:33:03 < kakimir> or rivers to say 2018-06-12T22:34:22 < stvn> oh god https://www.originenergy.com.au/blog/about-energy/what-is-hydropower.html 2018-06-12T22:34:34 < kakimir> finland has like 30% nuclear 19% hydro 1% renewables 50% russia 2018-06-12T22:34:54 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-12T22:35:02 < stvn> if Australia had nuclear power..... 2018-06-12T22:35:15 < stvn> it could go one of 2 ways 2018-06-12T22:35:54 < kakimir> you have energy crisis 2018-06-12T22:36:14 < stvn> do we? 2018-06-12T22:36:20 < kakimir> I watched youtubs videos about people don't have money to use electricity 2018-06-12T22:36:31 < kakimir> because super expensives 2018-06-12T22:36:35 < stvn> heh 2018-06-12T22:37:11 < Steffanx> mobile phone plan is more important you know 2018-06-12T22:37:23 < kakimir> finland build the single biggest nuclear reactor in the world 2018-06-12T22:37:47 < stvn> those same people complaining are busy spending $150 a week on alcohol and doing burnouts in their 6.2l v8 holden commodores 2018-06-12T22:37:48 < invzim> zyp: nice speedtest :) Can you get it unbundled from tv service? 2018-06-12T22:38:28 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-TbAy3gGNI if you go to 4:00 you see 2018-06-12T22:38:45 < Steffanx> https://youtu.be/_-TbAy3gGNI?t=4m * 2018-06-12T22:39:46 < stvn> how many dollar for donaldd 2018-06-12T22:39:50 < stvn> donald's wall 2018-06-12T22:40:23 < kakimir> but I think watching the whole video puts things in perspective 2018-06-12T22:40:35 < BrainDamage> ah russia, the alternative form of energy that doesn't pollute your land 2018-06-12T22:40:58 < kakimir> 3:50 actually 2018-06-12T22:41:01 < stvn> russia is a form of energy? 2018-06-12T22:41:08 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-12T22:41:11 < BrainDamage> >kakimir: finland has like 30% nuclear 19% hydro 1% renewables 50% russia 2018-06-12T22:41:56 < zyp> invzim, I guess, but 699 for 500/500 and tv is cheaper than I paid for 120/15 without TV before 2018-06-12T22:42:01 < kakimir> that nuclear plant is more expensive than channel tunnel 2018-06-12T22:42:24 < kakimir> and the price is still running 2018-06-12T22:44:56 < kakimir> and they are planning next one already 2018-06-12T22:48:49 < Laurenceb> only cuz they fail at construction 2018-06-12T22:53:03 < BrainDamage> nuclear power has a lot of strings attached that aren't necessarily technical 2018-06-12T22:53:10 < BrainDamage> most political or emotional 2018-06-12T22:53:21 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800c68d00588157291c3c1b2a.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-12T22:54:20 < kakimir> I wonder if they are going to get areva to build next one 2018-06-12T22:54:35 < kakimir> basically everything that could fail - did 2018-06-12T22:54:49 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-61b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T22:54:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-61b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-12T22:55:09 < Laurenceb> woah 2018-06-12T22:55:21 < Laurenceb> gui "seems" to be working 2018-06-12T22:56:12 < kakimir> iirc. they needed to rebuild whole reactor chamber etc. etc. because there was no mandatory inspections, qualified welders etc. cutting every corner 2018-06-12T22:56:23 < Laurenceb> +-5ms timing jitter on the connections 2018-06-12T22:56:36 < Laurenceb> <1ms jitter on the data (testing with a hammer) 2018-06-12T23:00:10 < Steffanx> Why nucleos dont come with a usb port. ( for the target ) 2018-06-12T23:00:27 < Laurenceb> usb frame number says its synchronised, but hammer is indisputable :P 2018-06-12T23:07:44 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qxkqufzxtvqvlvzb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-12T23:09:13 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-12T23:10:50 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2018-06-12T23:14:14 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T23:14:23 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T23:15:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T23:23:10 < nn77> I used stemcube to set up DAC1, but when I compile I get complains about "undefined reference to HAL_DAC_ConfigChannel" 2018-06-12T23:29:51 < Steffanx> ARROW is down englishman?! 2018-06-12T23:30:43 < nn77> oh, it's truestudio caching things it shouldn't. 2018-06-12T23:36:44 < kakimir> should I shower 2018-06-12T23:37:28 < nn77> always 2018-06-12T23:43:23 < kakimir> I'm stuck 2018-06-12T23:46:22 < Steffanx> Oh now i understand the smell, kakimir 2018-06-12T23:49:31 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fzmoqtzvgnangzvn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-12T23:49:54 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2018-06-12T23:50:28 -!- brabo [~brabo@globalshellz/owner/brabo] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T23:52:10 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2018-06-12T23:52:16 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2018-06-12T23:52:35 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T23:52:43 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-12T23:56:35 < kakimir> Steffanx: you smell it all way there? 2018-06-12T23:56:45 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-12T23:58:48 < kakimir> I don't really stink stink 2018-06-12T23:58:53 < kakimir> just a bit smelly 2018-06-12T23:59:28 < kakimir> I have found such a deodorant that works really too well --- Day changed Wed Jun 13 2018 2018-06-13T00:01:10 < kakimir> "oh well.. I could just go another day without shower" *applynewprotectivelayerontopofoldone* 2018-06-13T00:06:12 < kakimir> until I'm too scared to thing about when did I last time shower 2018-06-13T00:06:18 < kakimir> think* 2018-06-13T00:06:19 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bhfvtgtevwdcnznz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T00:07:47 < Steffanx> Lolyou 2018-06-13T00:08:44 < kakimir> it's like extream deodorant - like they usually advertise them 2018-06-13T00:13:37 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-13T00:17:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-13T00:23:13 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-13T00:23:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T00:29:04 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljOoGyCso8s 2018-06-13T00:30:42 < kakimir> start collectin materials for a sauna englishman 2018-06-13T00:30:59 < Steffanx> Is Arrow smart enough to save my cart when im logged in or do i have to save it somehow? 2018-06-13T00:31:07 < kakimir> winter is coming 2018-06-13T00:31:13 < Steffanx> or will it be gone tomorrow? 2018-06-13T00:32:40 < BrainDamage> summer didn't arrive here yet and you say that winter is coming 2018-06-13T00:33:15 < kakimir> in winland it's autumn already 2018-06-13T00:33:19 < Steffanx> Summer was here the last few weeks. This week is the worst week we had in weeks. 2018-06-13T00:33:40 < englishman> arrow saves it 2018-06-13T00:33:49 < englishman> but you only get one unlike digikey 2018-06-13T00:34:09 < englishman> afaik 2018-06-13T00:34:51 < kakimir> I ordered my last order from digikey 2018-06-13T00:35:06 < kakimir> friday afternoon 2018-06-13T00:35:18 < kakimir> monday it had arrived to country 2018-06-13T00:35:27 < kakimir> and today morning it was on my desk 2018-06-13T00:36:54 < kakimir> man I had a good shower 2018-06-13T00:37:10 < Steffanx> Im proud of you kakimir 2018-06-13T00:37:46 < BrainDamage> now you're set for the next 6 months 2018-06-13T00:39:00 < englishman> yes digikey shipping is excellent 2018-06-13T00:41:32 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T00:44:29 < Steffanx> lol at the vid englishman. Funny to see the enthousiasm of that guy and the girl is just like "Ya" "Ya". 2018-06-13T00:45:04 < englishman> yeah they were useless 2018-06-13T00:45:33 < kakimir> I thought that guy was a complete dummy because I saw his iphone headphone jack video 2018-06-13T00:46:14 < Steffanx> That video was nice too, although he didnt really had a clue what he was doing, it was funny to see 2018-06-13T00:46:47 < kakimir> he actually knows shit 2018-06-13T00:46:51 < kakimir> apparently 2018-06-13T00:47:27 < kakimir> iphone video was just a stunt for youtubes visibility 2018-06-13T00:47:34 < kakimir> I bet 2018-06-13T00:49:22 < kakimir> he is basically yelling to that girl 2018-06-13T00:49:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-13T00:49:29 < kakimir> how things are done 2018-06-13T00:49:38 < kakimir> like she didn't know 2018-06-13T00:56:35 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-61b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-13T01:00:40 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-13T01:04:46 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HujyOjjpZY englishman 2018-06-13T01:07:00 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T01:07:23 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T01:14:35 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:6cfc:93f3:3121:cd24] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T01:14:45 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-13T01:15:06 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T01:26:02 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-13T01:26:27 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T01:35:13 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:6cfc:93f3:3121:cd24] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-13T01:50:09 -!- stvn [sid287716@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvtthikxlpbwtuxw] has quit [] 2018-06-13T02:01:27 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-13T02:03:34 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T02:16:34 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-bhfvtgtevwdcnznz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T02:25:46 -!- laurence__ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T02:25:52 < laurence__> muh 2018-06-13T02:26:34 < Cracki> you're not a cow 2018-06-13T02:26:39 < Cracki> what's new? 2018-06-13T02:27:19 < laurence__> today I learnt how an australian is formed 2018-06-13T02:27:21 < laurence__> attn stvn 2018-06-13T02:27:33 < laurence__> http://www.abc.net.au/rightwrongs/assets/media/2017/03/colour-coding-image-1024x689.jpg 2018-06-13T02:27:39 < laurence__> stvn at lhs 2018-06-13T02:28:36 < laurence__> notice they dont show the male abbos, and they also dont show what they ate 2018-06-13T02:28:48 < laurence__> I think there is one answer to both these questions 2018-06-13T02:32:31 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xeatetcnrwjtyrlo] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T02:48:58 < laurence__> valgrind seems to have solved muh segfaults 2018-06-13T02:58:41 < laurence__> I think you guys need to stop complaining,pull your socks up and just get out there and do something with yourselves. Have you not been listening to that Genesis album i bought you? 2018-06-13T03:02:00 < laurence__> Lotta negativity in this thread. Don't hate on young people just because we're out there changing the world. I saw a great TED talk about motivation the other day and I think it could really help you. I'll shoot you over a link. 2018-06-13T03:04:07 < laurence__> https://imgur.com/GMOD1hk 2018-06-13T03:08:14 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T03:20:51 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-13T03:30:26 < Thorn> I tried to watch a TED talk a few weeks ago. it started with something like "Until recently, I didn't really know cargo ships still exist!" 2018-06-13T03:43:19 < englishman> well how often do you see cargo ships from your studio basement apartment 2018-06-13T03:48:49 < laurence__> kek 2018-06-13T03:49:11 < laurence__> I should write my paper on cargo airships 2018-06-13T03:49:34 < laurence__> muh CV 2018-06-13T03:50:38 < laurence__> https://imgur.com/7sYT0aw 2018-06-13T03:52:49 < Cracki> to quote a monty python sketch: "struggle against reality" 2018-06-13T03:53:12 < laurence__> https://imgur.com/LP2QwV5 2018-06-13T03:53:57 < laurence__> da police 2018-06-13T03:59:16 < Cracki> look at me, I'm the captain now 2018-06-13T04:04:42 < Thorn> such is life in Trumpistan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8eE1S8ztes 2018-06-13T04:05:05 < Thorn> er wrong video 2018-06-13T04:05:28 < Thorn> ^^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U0sui2hknQ 2018-06-13T04:11:17 < laurence__> lulwtf 2018-06-13T04:11:27 < laurence__> just grab car with hydralic clamps 2018-06-13T04:11:31 < laurence__> I'd chimp out too 2018-06-13T04:17:38 < nn77> I have a DAC chip that I'm trying to communicate with. I need to send 24 bits before raising the SYNC line so I'm doing that in software (and skipping the NSS hardware output). My problem is the DAC requires the first valid bit to be ready when SYNC falls. 2018-06-13T04:18:18 -!- laurence__ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-13T04:18:32 < nn77> How can I get the STM32 do get the first bit ready without resorting to bit-banging? 2018-06-13T04:18:56 < dongs> isn't that cpol/cpha stuff? 2018-06-13T04:19:00 < dongs> polarity/phase 2018-06-13T04:19:14 < nn77> i tried playing with that and didn't have much luck. I'll take another look. thanks 2018-06-13T04:21:46 < aandrew> yep that is exactly cpol/cpha stuff 2018-06-13T04:24:58 < aandrew> if I may, I suggest making sure the SPI peripherla is set up with hspi->Init.MasterKeepIOState = SPI_MASTER_KEEP_IO_STATE_ENABLE set 2018-06-13T04:25:03 < aandrew> that caused me no end of pain 2018-06-13T04:28:04 < nn77> doesn't look like it's valid on mine 2018-06-13T04:33:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-13T04:33:53 < Cracki> do you control hte sync line? 2018-06-13T04:34:48 < Cracki> name the dac chip 2018-06-13T04:35:11 < Cracki> it should only sample at clock edges, not when sync/chipselect falls 2018-06-13T04:39:34 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081DD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T04:43:34 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32252.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-13T04:51:21 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-13T04:52:08 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/TRqOLi0.png 2018-06-13T04:54:18 < nn77> yeah, I misread the reading the bit when SYNC falls 2018-06-13T04:54:22 < nn77> it's an AD5734 2018-06-13T04:55:04 < nn77> what confuses me is I'm sending it the same command every millisecond and most of the time it does nothing, but occasionally it sets up the voltage I want and then turns it off when the sync line goes low again. 2018-06-13T04:55:57 < aandrew> is this TImode shit 2018-06-13T04:58:33 < aandrew> I love how everybody wants their own fucking protocol 2018-06-13T04:58:38 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T04:59:52 -!- Streak_r [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T05:00:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T05:00:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-13T05:03:13 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-13T05:03:17 < nn77> I've poked at this DAC for a while now. I can't figure out why it doesn't want to regularly behave. 2018-06-13T05:03:45 < Cracki> nn77, you must be doing something wrong. the AD... sheet says it samples on falling clock, and sync falling to clock falling has a minimum time 2018-06-13T05:04:13 < Cracki> do you have a LA or scope 2018-06-13T05:04:16 -!- enh [~enhering@187.16.245.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T05:04:25 < nn77> both, a tek mixed signal 2018-06-13T05:04:41 < nn77> I've probed the signal lines and they're nice and clean 2018-06-13T05:04:49 < dongs> https://github.com/laserlance/Arduino-Precision-DAC-AD57X4/blob/master/DAC57X4.cpp 2018-06-13T05:04:52 < Cracki> the AD... spi looks like proper spi 2018-06-13T05:04:53 < dongs> retarduino code 2018-06-13T05:04:56 < dongs> you can't be dumber than arduino bro 2018-06-13T05:04:58 < dongs> and even they use SPI 2018-06-13T05:05:06 < dongs> SPI.setBitOrder(MSBFIRST); 2018-06-13T05:05:07 < dongs> SPI.setDataMode(SPI_MODE2); 2018-06-13T05:05:16 < dongs> thats all you should need to do the proper rising/falling edge latching 2018-06-13T05:05:23 < nn77> I'll consider that a vote of confidence 2018-06-13T05:05:31 < Cracki> >confidence 2018-06-13T05:05:55 < nn77> yeah, I'm in mode 2 2018-06-13T05:05:56 < dongs> https://github.com/laserlance/Arduino-Precision-DAC-AD57X4/blob/master/DAC57X4.cpp#L544 2018-06-13T05:06:03 < dongs> none of this shit looks complex or difficult 2018-06-13T05:06:07 < dongs> what the fuck are you still doing fuckin with it 2018-06-13T05:06:16 < nn77> failing, apparently 2018-06-13T05:06:17 < dongs> looks like standard as fuck DAC 2018-06-13T05:06:46 < dongs> the read above functio nis normal spi too 2018-06-13T05:06:55 < dongs> you send the NOP or wahtever to read out shit 2018-06-13T05:07:01 < dongs> the "24 bits" you're saying 2018-06-13T05:08:59 < dongs> donno man doesnt look like anything that would take more than 10 minutes to get working 2018-06-13T05:09:36 < Cracki> "readback" sounds rather like ordinary SPI shift register principle 2018-06-13T05:09:40 < dongs> yes 2018-06-13T05:09:46 < Cracki> oh it has a R/!W input 2018-06-13T05:09:48 < Cracki> funny 2018-06-13T05:09:55 < Cracki> no wait it's a "bit" 2018-06-13T05:10:30 < dongs> yes, a number of SPI things have ex. 1st bit in transfer to signify its a register read instead of write 2018-06-13T05:10:32 < Cracki> eh, it's a DAC, what's there to read out... 2018-06-13T05:10:46 < Cracki> I figured the 24 bits are all DAC bits 2018-06-13T05:10:48 < Cracki> guess not :P 2018-06-13T05:11:00 < nn77> yeah, I'm not reading anything 2018-06-13T05:11:10 < dongs> you can't even get writing working???????????????????? 2018-06-13T05:11:13 < dongs> get into the oven 2018-06-13T05:11:21 < nn77> not again 2018-06-13T05:11:22 < dongs> just copy that retarduino code 2018-06-13T05:11:26 < nn77> https://pasteboard.co/HpDswK8.png 2018-06-13T05:11:29 < dongs> you'll be done in no time 2018-06-13T05:11:41 < Cracki> yikes that sheet. I'm skipping around and haven't found a proper diagram of the packet format yet 2018-06-13T05:11:46 < Cracki> index isn't helpful so far 2018-06-13T05:12:04 < nn77> I just noticed that it's working in this screen capture. 1 and 2 are both -10V. 2018-06-13T05:12:12 < nn77> It does that occasionally, but for no apparent reason 2018-06-13T05:12:23 < nn77> right now they're both at 0 and I haven't changed anything 2018-06-13T05:12:51 < Cracki> ah, there's a paragraph titled INPUT SHIFT REGISTER 2018-06-13T05:13:28 < Cracki> drive it from an arduino 2018-06-13T05:15:14 < dongs> -10 = when you send 0 as dac values? 2018-06-13T05:16:26 < nn77> yes 2018-06-13T05:16:54 < Cracki> so you configured the +-10V range 2018-06-13T05:17:15 < dongs> sync pin looks like its for chaining bunch of htem together 2018-06-13T05:17:29 < nn77> Cracki, yes 2018-06-13T05:17:54 < nn77> there's a LOAD command that it's not clear to me what it's for 2018-06-13T05:18:24 < Cracki> "load"? 2018-06-13T05:18:27 < Cracki> where is that written? 2018-06-13T05:18:42 < Cracki> ah that, LDAC 2018-06-13T05:18:55 < nn77> not LDAC 2018-06-13T05:18:59 < Cracki> not? 2018-06-13T05:19:01 < nn77> page 25 table 24 2018-06-13T05:19:12 < dongs> that just means 2018-06-13T05:19:19 < nn77> I mean, it looks like it should do the same thing as LDAC 2018-06-13T05:19:35 < dongs> the several(?) dac outputs that that chip have change value immediately after each one of them 24 bits have been clocked out 2018-06-13T05:19:40 < dongs> OR syncronously, on ldac pulse 2018-06-13T05:20:06 < nn77> I have LDAC tied low, so it should change when sync goes high 2018-06-13T05:20:10 < nn77> and i've seen it do that! 2018-06-13T05:20:17 < dongs> ldac is input. 2018-06-13T05:20:35 < Cracki> seems you can operate some functions either via pins or via spi 2018-06-13T05:20:46 < dongs> you are using burst clock 2018-06-13T05:20:49 < dongs> why do you evne have sync low 2018-06-13T05:21:00 < dongs> the datasaheet says sync low is for when your spi / wahtever clock is freerunning 2018-06-13T05:21:07 < dongs> the whole purpose of sync shit is several dacs at once 2018-06-13T05:21:12 < dongs> and youre obviously not using it for that purpose 2018-06-13T05:22:39 < nn77> it also says in gated clock mode that sync must be taken high after the final clock 2018-06-13T05:23:20 < Cracki> ah! #CLR is to clear DAC values to some default value. the CLR bit decides which value that is (table 25) 2018-06-13T05:23:26 < Cracki> so Load should be next to that 2018-06-13T05:23:56 < dongs> nn77: so why is that a problem? since SPI only clocks stuff when you tell it to, you know exactly how many pulses will happen anyway. 2018-06-13T05:24:02 < Cracki> properly using the chipselect might sometimes be superfluous, but it's never wrong 2018-06-13T05:25:24 < Cracki> figure 41 seems related to the "Load" function 2018-06-13T05:25:35 < nn77> dongs, it's not a problem, it just implies that I can't just ignore sync 2018-06-13T05:27:31 < Cracki> the arduino code uses a LoadDACs function 2018-06-13T05:27:51 < nn77> A continuous SCLK source can only be used if SYNC is held 2018-06-13T05:27:51 < nn77> low for the correct number of clock cycles. In gated clock mode, 2018-06-13T05:27:51 < nn77> a burst clock containing the exact number of clock cycles must 2018-06-13T05:27:51 < nn77> be used, and SYNC must be taken high after the final clock to 2018-06-13T05:27:51 < nn77> latch the data. 2018-06-13T05:27:52 < dongs> nn77: oh sure 2018-06-13T05:28:00 < nn77> how are those two modes different?? 2018-06-13T05:28:02 < Cracki> makes sense... you send fresh values for all dac, into some buffer regs, and the Load applies them to the actual DAC hardware 2018-06-13T05:28:30 < dongs> nn77: it means in continous clock, sync is high when you want dac to ignore that clock, then it goes low for 24 bits, then it goes back high 2018-06-13T05:28:43 < Cracki> sync high seems to be required to latch in all cases. 2018-06-13T05:28:51 < nn77> Cracki, exactly 2018-06-13T05:28:52 < dongs> in gated, its low by default, then sync high when done clocking shit out 2018-06-13T05:29:18 < Cracki> that's a matter of perspective then 2018-06-13T05:29:22 < nn77> I see 2018-06-13T05:29:31 < Cracki> whatever you consider the idle state 2018-06-13T05:29:41 < Cracki> anyway, translate the arduino code 2018-06-13T05:30:00 < Cracki> the chip seems to want some ceremony 2018-06-13T05:30:24 < nn77> yeah. it looks like init strings are the same as in the arduino code 2018-06-13T05:30:36 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-13T05:30:38 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T05:36:26 < nn77> f me I think it's a bad solder joint 2018-06-13T05:41:34 < Cracki> do you do the LDAC? 2018-06-13T05:41:39 < Cracki> or poke the load function? 2018-06-13T05:42:06 < nn77> LDAC is tied low, so SYNC should load it 2018-06-13T05:42:11 < Cracki> no. 2018-06-13T05:42:26 < Cracki> don't assume. 2018-06-13T05:42:32 < Cracki> see if poking the load function does anything 2018-06-13T05:43:11 < Cracki> in principle, tying LDAC low should transfer from register to DAC upon rising sync, yes... but you can try 2018-06-13T05:43:27 < nn77> I have tried sending LOAD also 2018-06-13T05:43:34 < Cracki> ok bad solder joint :P 2018-06-13T05:43:56 < nn77> yeah, pressing on the chip changes the output voltage 2018-06-13T05:44:06 < Cracki> lol 2018-06-13T05:44:32 < Cracki> if that isn't your body capacitance affecting the circuit, or a bad solder joint, the chip might be fractured 2018-06-13T06:02:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T06:07:05 < nn77> ok, the second chip and adapter are doing the same thing 2018-06-13T06:07:10 < nn77> maybe something's wrong with the breadboard 2018-06-13T06:07:12 < nn77> I'm giving up 2018-06-13T06:07:13 < nn77> good night 2018-06-13T06:07:42 < englishman> finally got my zano 2018-06-13T06:19:01 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-13T06:23:02 < englishman> Other attendees reported being told that Zano wasn’t flying because Crowther’s laptop had been stolen, because Torquing was worried about industrial espionage, or even because its technology was military specification and might get confiscated by the US authorities. 2018-06-13T06:23:15 < englishman> lol this medium article is way more in-depth than the arstechnica one 2018-06-13T06:25:09 < Peter_M> are you doing some archeology? 2018-06-13T06:25:20 < Peter_M> or negromancy? 2018-06-13T06:27:17 < englishman> someone in an unrelated chan mentioned zano and i was wondering what those chaps were up to 2018-06-13T06:27:31 < englishman> you may have bought your morning coffee from reece crowther thismorning 2018-06-13T06:27:58 < Peter_M> is that the football player 2018-06-13T06:29:27 < englishman> During the first weeks I was there, Ivan was used to closing his office door when he was testing the [drone’s] flight. This is the reason why I can’t say if Zano was able to ‘fly’, ‘fly properly’, or something between the two, at that time. 2018-06-13T06:31:08 < Peter_M> "testing the drones flight" mroe like havin a wank 2018-06-13T06:38:13 < englishman> Kickstarter sent a private letter to backers announcing that it was banning Zano’s creators from future projects. 2018-06-13T06:43:25 < Peter_M> LOL 2018-06-13T07:07:17 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-13T07:09:34 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T07:10:04 < englishman> https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*dtMFHhAApEgL7nPuuigoMQ.jpeg 2018-06-13T07:11:50 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T07:15:25 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-13T07:15:26 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-13T07:25:34 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T07:26:12 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T08:02:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-13T08:09:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T08:11:11 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-93ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T08:21:15 -!- Streak_r [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T08:23:43 < dongs> haha 2018-06-13T08:24:17 < dongs> noflyzano.com was a worthy investment for a year 2018-06-13T08:35:53 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T08:58:25 < Thorn> lol they ordered 2500 pcs lpc824 this time 2018-06-13T09:05:58 < dongs> who, zano? 2018-06-13T09:05:58 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-93ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T09:06:04 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-93ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:07:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:08:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-13T09:08:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:12:29 < Thorn> lcsc 2018-06-13T09:12:44 < dongs> i always fucking forget that site name 2018-06-13T09:12:48 < dongs> when I want to look for shit 2018-06-13T09:29:38 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-93ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-13T09:31:24 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:33:14 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T09:33:37 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:42:25 < Thorn> http://developer.huawei.com/ict/en/site-iot/product/liteos wat 2018-06-13T09:43:41 < Haohmaru> mmm, eye oh tea 2018-06-13T09:44:02 < Haohmaru> smart devices 2018-06-13T09:44:20 < Haohmaru> superb user eggsperience 2018-06-13T09:44:48 < Haohmaru> submerge into the future.. drown in the niceness 2018-06-13T09:44:51 < Haohmaru> >:( 2018-06-13T09:45:47 < Haohmaru> they all make platforms for IoT, why don't they make the smart devices themselves? 2018-06-13T09:45:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-13T09:45:59 < Haohmaru> coz it's bullsh*t and they know it 2018-06-13T09:47:04 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:50:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:50:46 < dongs> ReadError: Thorn old 2018-06-13T09:50:49 < dongs> err 2018-06-13T09:51:01 < dongs> Thorn: i linked that like a year ago 2018-06-13T09:51:36 < dongs> its on shuthub 2018-06-13T09:51:41 < dongs> https://github.com/LiteOS/LiteOS 2018-06-13T09:52:03 < dongs> they also support keil 2018-06-13T09:58:49 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T09:59:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-13T10:00:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T10:04:11 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T10:04:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-13T10:28:06 < Steffanx> Damn did the stvn leave us :o 2018-06-13T10:51:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T11:12:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-13T11:17:06 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T11:23:46 < zyp> Steffanx, are you .nl guys always impatient? 2018-06-13T11:23:53 < zyp> just got this email "Two weeks ago you registered at Fastned, but we see you haven't charged yet." 2018-06-13T11:30:07 < Steffanx> Thats not impatient. Thats being interested.:P 2018-06-13T11:30:36 < Steffanx> But mainly: we like to spam you 2018-06-13T11:31:28 < zyp> impatient about getting my money :p 2018-06-13T11:32:24 < zyp> but yeah, I got some spam from them yesterday also 2018-06-13T11:32:27 < zyp> "Vandaag is een speciale dag: je kunt nu laden bij ons eerste station in Duitsland!" 2018-06-13T11:32:29 < Steffanx> They just want to know when to bake the waffles 2018-06-13T11:32:39 < Steffanx> And heat the stroop 2018-06-13T11:32:51 < zyp> dutch still seems like severely misspelled norwegian 2018-06-13T11:34:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T11:41:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-13T11:44:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T11:44:56 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T11:54:44 < day> the ip protocol is much simpler than i expected 2018-06-13T11:58:54 < zyp> ip is super simple, it's tcp that's a bit complicated 2018-06-13T11:59:10 < Haohmaru> pls repeat that last packet 2018-06-13T11:59:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T12:01:50 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T12:02:33 < Steffanx> I didnt send anything. 2018-06-13T12:06:50 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T12:13:10 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-13T12:23:59 < Steffanx> In the end we're germanic languages speaking bastards anyway, zyp 2018-06-13T12:24:58 -!- laurence__ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T12:25:01 < laurence__> my sides https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-44465236 2018-06-13T12:25:09 -!- laurence__ is now known as Laurenceb_ 2018-06-13T12:25:19 < Laurenceb_> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/F8C9/production/_101998636_8b9f9474-9f70-4124-ada1-e3430baceca6.jpg 2018-06-13T12:26:33 < Laurenceb_> when muslims and nazis join forces 2018-06-13T12:26:58 < Laurenceb_> a britbong is formed 2018-06-13T12:27:15 < sync> zyp: same with german and dutch 2018-06-13T12:28:43 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T12:33:29 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T12:37:59 < Laurenceb_> https://imgur.com/RO8r5E9 2018-06-13T12:40:00 < Haohmaru> wut 2018-06-13T12:42:38 < Laurenceb_> >typical tinder "grrrls" 2018-06-13T12:46:28 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T12:46:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T13:00:20 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-13T13:03:51 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T13:04:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-13T13:05:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T13:06:42 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T13:12:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T13:23:32 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 2018-06-13T13:41:00 < dongs> looks more like typical brexiters 2018-06-13T13:44:06 < Steffanx> Just some guys having fun... But with bad humor like dr b you wont understand 2018-06-13T13:49:54 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T13:49:54 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-13T13:49:54 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T13:50:52 < kakimir> I understand yesterday when I was in toilet 2018-06-13T13:51:00 < kakimir> how bit parity check works 2018-06-13T13:51:41 < kakimir> move by half and xor by itself until there is one bit left 2018-06-13T13:52:17 < kakimir> xor doesn't lose parity data 2018-06-13T13:52:49 < kakimir> you take 2 sets and xor them and parity is kept 2018-06-13T13:53:00 < zyp> well, duh 2018-06-13T13:53:06 < kakimir> really smart 2018-06-13T13:53:11 < kakimir> much brain 2018-06-13T13:56:04 < kakimir> I figured it out accidentally when I xor'd array of 4 into one to keep the parity data and avoid packing related issues 2018-06-13T13:58:47 < zyp> if you think that's mind blowing, you should look at optimized algorithms for doing bit reversal (on platforms that doesn't have a native instruction for it) 2018-06-13T14:01:17 < kakimir> there is a lot to wonder 2018-06-13T14:01:34 < kakimir> no time to be einstein all the time 2018-06-13T14:02:06 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/EIrrY <- here you go :) 2018-06-13T14:06:39 < kakimir> you need to be a little of mathemagian to figure those out 2018-06-13T14:07:25 < zyp> I didn't come up with it, it's a pretty well known trick 2018-06-13T14:07:51 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-13T14:07:57 < kakimir> but someone did figure that out 2018-06-13T14:08:11 < kakimir> probs in.. 50's 60's 2018-06-13T14:08:15 < kakimir> if not earlier 2018-06-13T14:08:20 < zyp> as far as math goes, I'd say this is pretty simple 2018-06-13T14:08:36 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/Xpo4lX95.html this is the most optimized way to reverse bits 2018-06-13T14:08:43 < dongs> (c) tektronix 2018-06-13T14:08:54 < zyp> dongs, yeah, exactly :) 2018-06-13T14:11:36 < zyp> https://cgit.jvnv.net/laks/tree/gpio/gpio.h#n165 <- I came up with this though 2018-06-13T14:14:52 < kakimir> use gpio to reverse bits? 2018-06-13T14:15:09 < zyp> no, that has nothing to do with bit reversal 2018-06-13T14:15:16 < dongs> no, hes fucking around with seting gpio mode shit or wahtever 2018-06-13T14:15:17 < zyp> just efficient register calculation 2018-06-13T14:15:25 < dongs> just smart stuff instead of wahtever retard looped shit ST does 2018-06-13T14:15:37 < dongs> ST's GPIO_INit() thing in stdlib is awful as fuck 2018-06-13T14:15:45 < dongs> there's liek 2 loops in it 2018-06-13T14:16:15 < dongs> zyp, tomtom shipped without sending any emails 2018-06-13T14:16:18 < dongs> apparenytly 3 days ago 2018-06-13T14:16:39 < zyp> cool, mine wasn't shipped yet last I checked 2018-06-13T14:16:52 < zyp> ah, now it is 2018-06-13T14:17:10 < dongs> i was expecting an email 2018-06-13T14:17:17 < dongs> whatever shit trackign they gave doesnt work tho 2018-06-13T14:17:22 < dongs> lols 2018-06-13T14:17:32 < zyp> tracking says "2018-06-13 00:00 2018-06-13T14:17:33 < zyp> Information Received (This is not an acknowledgment of the physical receipt of the stated Registered Article)" 2018-06-13T14:17:40 < zyp> so almost shipped 2018-06-13T14:17:42 < dongs> is it SG? 2018-06-13T14:17:45 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-13T14:17:50 < dongs> my UK pal ordered and he got some weird wandaexpres 2018-06-13T14:17:55 < zyp> RF blah blah SG 2018-06-13T14:18:08 < dongs> Wanbexpress 2018-06-13T14:18:13 < dongs> yea same shit as mine, and no info lol 2018-06-13T14:18:20 < dongs> fgts 2018-06-13T14:22:07 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T14:23:32 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-13T14:23:32 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2018-06-13T14:25:13 < kakimir> ans -= (int16_t)(2048); why there is conversion warning? 2018-06-13T14:25:22 < kakimir> ans is type int16_t 2018-06-13T14:26:04 < kakimir> it says converstion to int16_t from int may alter it's value 2018-06-13T14:26:21 < zyp> which compiler? 2018-06-13T14:27:34 < kakimir> gcc 2018-06-13T14:30:13 < dongs> https://www.tomtop.com/p-pz0165b-eu.html gosh 2018-06-13T14:30:32 < zyp> are we buying all the shit on tomtop now? 2018-06-13T14:30:36 < dongs> no haha 2018-06-13T14:30:39 < dongs> just clicked on their sale shit 2018-06-13T14:30:44 < dongs> i havent looked at knockoff phones recently 2018-06-13T14:30:56 < dongs> i wonder if I'll eventually end up using a chinkphone as my main 2018-06-13T14:31:01 < dongs> if they figure out how to get fingerprint under glass 2018-06-13T14:31:05 < dongs> before flagships 2018-06-13T14:31:31 < zyp> what's wrong with fingerprint on the back? 2018-06-13T14:31:39 < dongs> the fact that its unusable 2018-06-13T14:31:50 < dongs> when you pull phone out with fingerprint on front, its already unlocked by the time its in your face 2018-06-13T14:32:01 < zyp> what, you don't have an index finger? 2018-06-13T14:32:14 < dongs> i pull my phone out form pocket by the edge of it 2018-06-13T14:32:17 < dongs> not grabbing entire thing 2018-06-13T14:32:20 < BrainDamage> my phone has a fingerprint sensor on the power button, it's ok-ish 2018-06-13T14:32:33 < BrainDamage> ( the power button is on the side ) 2018-06-13T14:32:54 < dongs> my phone turns on screen just by fingerprint touch 2018-06-13T14:33:00 < dongs> (and unlocks) 2018-06-13T14:33:01 < dongs> so... 2018-06-13T14:33:09 < dongs> no need for actual power button 2018-06-13T14:33:34 < zyp> same, just uses power button when I put it away 2018-06-13T14:36:28 < dongs> https://www.tomtop.com/p-pas0087w-us.html xiaomi does toilet seats now 2018-06-13T14:36:43 < zyp> pretty sure they do everything 2018-06-13T14:36:59 < zyp> one of my friends recently got a xiaomi rice cooker 2018-06-13T14:37:12 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_VxF249oikA4daWt5AAAO2-YSZB6Rswd/view?usp=sharing 2018-06-13T14:37:18 < Laurenceb> sup trollz 2018-06-13T14:37:39 < Laurenceb> ewww eye cancer 2018-06-13T14:37:40 < kakimir> first warning of the function is about gcc binary extension 2018-06-13T14:38:28 < kakimir> but why ans -= (int16_t)(2048) has conversion warning 2018-06-13T14:38:55 -!- fc5dc9d4_ is now known as fc5dc9d4 2018-06-13T14:38:59 < kakimir> I don't like yellow marks in my code 2018-06-13T14:39:13 < kakimir> with exception of binary extension 2018-06-13T14:39:41 < dongs> remove the () around 1024 2018-06-13T14:40:10 < kakimir> how about 2048= 2018-06-13T14:40:17 < dongs> that too 2018-06-13T14:40:37 < kakimir> it reduntant but doesn't affect how it works 2018-06-13T14:41:05 < kakimir> I like to coherent style with casting 2018-06-13T14:41:12 < jpa-> eh, wy would you write shit like that in the first place? 2018-06-13T14:41:27 < jpa-> coherently crappy style? 2018-06-13T14:41:38 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-13T14:41:46 < kakimir> when other ways are too simple 2018-06-13T14:42:15 < dongs> https://www.tomtop.com/p-pz0251b-eu.html haha, china fucking delivering 2018-06-13T14:42:28 < jpa-> what warning flag are your warnings coming from? 2018-06-13T14:42:34 < kakimir> and to satisfy -Wpendantic 2018-06-13T14:42:44 < kakimir> -Wconversion 2018-06-13T14:42:59 < kakimir> *satisfy -Wpedantic 2018-06-13T14:44:06 < kakimir> I have another case too 2018-06-13T14:44:32 < jpa-> well, the cast is pretty useless for -= 2018-06-13T14:44:36 < kakimir> average_adc_value += adc_array[i]; 2018-06-13T14:44:47 < kakimir> both are uint16_t 2018-06-13T14:44:59 < jpa-> because that expression translates to ans = ans - (int16_t)(2048) and then the - will convert everything to int anyway 2018-06-13T14:45:36 < kakimir> it says conversion to uint16_t from int may alter it's value 2018-06-13T14:45:54 < jpa-> why not just make the temporaries int anyway? 2018-06-13T14:46:30 < jpa-> i'd just write int ans = (a << 4) | (b & 0x0F); if (ans > 1024) { ans -= 2048; } return (int16_t)ans; 2018-06-13T14:46:52 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-13T14:46:54 < dongs> ^ winner right there 2018-06-13T14:46:59 < kakimir> that is the original shape of it 2018-06-13T14:46:59 < dongs> (not kikemir) 2018-06-13T14:47:21 < jpa-> kakimir: well that doesn't give any warnings for me even with -Wconversion -Wpedantic 2018-06-13T14:47:22 < kakimir> I wish to satisfy -Wpedantic and learn 2018-06-13T14:47:25 < dongs> so why did you fuck with it 2018-06-13T14:47:56 < kakimir> because I use specific types 2018-06-13T14:48:14 < kakimir> I don't have a single "int" in my codes 2018-06-13T14:48:18 < kakimir> not a single one 2018-06-13T14:48:18 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T14:48:27 < dongs> good luck 2018-06-13T14:48:29 < jpa-> you are just trying to force C to compute in int16_t, even though both the language and the processor are designed to only do things efficiently with types >= int 2018-06-13T14:48:37 < dongs> btw, ints are faster to do math on 2018-06-13T14:48:43 < dongs> because it doesnt need to carea bout overflow/etc 2018-06-13T14:49:05 < kakimir> good to know 2018-06-13T14:49:22 < kakimir> but I will not use "int" still 2018-06-13T14:49:28 < kakimir> always specified type 2018-06-13T14:49:42 < jpa-> you are using int on every line 2018-06-13T14:49:50 < jpa-> even though it is not written there 2018-06-13T14:49:53 < kakimir> effectivelly 2018-06-13T14:50:05 < kakimir> I don't care what it's using 2018-06-13T14:50:06 < zyp> your literals are all int 2018-06-13T14:50:21 < kakimir> as long I specify it 2018-06-13T14:50:23 < kakimir> *as 2018-06-13T14:50:31 < zyp> if you're gonna write code as if you have a stick up your ass, better start using more specific literals 2018-06-13T14:50:38 < jpa-> what is the advantage of making the code look like it is doing something different than it is really doing? 2018-06-13T14:50:58 < dongs> autismvantage 2018-06-13T14:51:33 < jpa-> i agree that int promotion is crappy for portability in some specific cases, like int32_t on platform where sizeof(int) == 8, but this is not one of the cases and your "solution" is just making things worse 2018-06-13T14:52:24 < jpa-> but yeah, go ahead and write ans = (int16_t)((int16_t)ans - (int16_t)(2048)); and be happy 2018-06-13T14:53:16 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T14:53:38 < jpa-> i suggest you #define EWW(x) (int16_t)(x) and write it as ans = EWW(EWW(ans)-EWW(2048)); where EWW of course stands for exquisite word width 2018-06-13T14:54:00 < kakimir> jpa-: that is what I pla... 2018-06-13T14:54:05 < kakimir> :D 2018-06-13T14:55:38 < dongs> do ot egem ,pre aitostoc 2018-06-13T14:55:57 < dongs> #defome EWW(x, y) (int##y##_t)(x) 2018-06-13T14:56:07 < dongs> and then you can do EWW(16, loldongs) 2018-06-13T14:56:12 < dongs> err the otehr waty around 2018-06-13T14:56:14 < dongs> loldongs,16 2018-06-13T14:56:37 < zyp> eww the other way around 2018-06-13T14:56:52 < dongs> hm? 2018-06-13T14:57:05 < dongs> i donno if ## is a ggcccism 2018-06-13T14:57:08 < dongs> damn im totally falling asleep 2018-06-13T14:57:12 < dongs> gonna gett teh fuck out of hre 2018-06-13T14:57:15 < dongs> cant type and cant see shit 2018-06-13T14:57:16 < zyp> haha 2018-06-13T14:58:21 < srk> https://gpfault.net/posts/typesafe-bitmasks.txt.html 2018-06-13T14:58:52 < jpa-> my tlv493 code looked like this http://paste.dy.fi/ETN/plain 2018-06-13T14:59:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T14:59:32 < jpa-> but yes, of course it makes sense to have separate decodeX, decodeY, decodeZ, decodeT functions 2018-06-13T14:59:41 < jpa-> just like it makes sense to cast to int16_t all the things 2018-06-13T15:00:26 < kakimir> I took arduino codez and made them dope 2018-06-13T15:01:32 < kakimir> jpa-: if you notice some of them are identical 2018-06-13T15:01:38 < kakimir> y and z 2018-06-13T15:01:38 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T15:01:42 < kakimir> what is T? 2018-06-13T15:02:17 < jpa-> uh oh, this is worse than a child puking on my shirt 2018-06-13T15:02:31 < kakimir> what exactly? 2018-06-13T15:02:45 < kakimir> apart from everything you just saw? 2018-06-13T15:03:35 < kakimir> did you use interrupt with tlv493? 2018-06-13T15:03:39 < kakimir> or just timing? 2018-06-13T15:03:53 < jpa-> i was just testing it out, so just read it in a loop 2018-06-13T15:05:08 < kakimir> you did nothing with it? 2018-06-13T15:05:20 < jpa-> not yet, no 2018-06-13T15:05:25 < kakimir> I think I'll just put it in fastest mode 2018-06-13T15:05:38 < jpa-> btw, where is your 1024 and 2048 coming from? it seems wrong to me 2018-06-13T15:06:22 < kakimir> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/tutorial-and-overview-of-infineons-3d-magnetic-2go-kit/ 2018-06-13T15:06:32 < kakimir> if there is error it's not first one 2018-06-13T15:07:41 < kakimir> sholdn't it be 1023 2018-06-13T15:07:52 < jpa-> no, 2048 and 4096 2018-06-13T15:08:44 < jpa-> i've never seen 1024 being called "bit 12" before, and i don't really think 1023 is "bit 12" either 2018-06-13T15:09:22 < kakimir> user manual page 9 2018-06-13T15:10:07 < kakimir> 3.1 Calculation of the magnetic flux 2018-06-13T15:10:31 < jpa-> .. which quite clearly shows "subtract 2048 if bit 12 is set" 2018-06-13T15:10:51 < jpa-> er 2018-06-13T15:11:08 < jpa-> so indeed not subtract 4096 :P 2018-06-13T15:11:27 < jpa-> ah, indeed, i was wrong :P 2018-06-13T15:12:23 < kakimir> wait this turduino code isn't right 2018-06-13T15:13:07 < kakimir> that condition check 2018-06-13T15:13:17 < kakimir> unless 2018-06-13T15:13:23 < jpa-> ah yeah, now i see what was confusing me 2018-06-13T15:13:40 < jpa-> it depends on whether you mask out the sign bit prior to the comparison or not 2018-06-13T15:14:10 < kakimir> what is the range of this? 2018-06-13T15:14:19 < jpa-> if you don't, then it is if (x > 2048) { x -= 4096; } but if you mask it out it is if (x_raw > 2048) { x -= 2048; } like in ref man 2018-06-13T15:16:25 < kakimir> you mean if ( > 2047) 2018-06-13T15:16:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T15:16:53 < jpa-> true, i like & 2048 better 2018-06-13T15:16:57 < kakimir> in case of not maskin 2018-06-13T15:19:58 < Steffanx> You copied the tarduino code :o 2018-06-13T15:20:22 < kakimir> just to get grip of it 2018-06-13T15:21:18 < kakimir> I need to give functions kakinames too 2018-06-13T15:21:43 < kakimir> tlv493_decode_x_12bit 2018-06-13T15:22:35 < kakimir> and I need to check bit masks because there is errors 2018-06-13T15:24:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T15:25:09 < kakimir> was in some earlier parts 2018-06-13T15:25:16 < karlp> heh, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-hackers-exclusive/exclusive-us-counterspy-warns-world-cup-travelers-devices-could-be-hacked-idUSKBN1J82YX 2018-06-13T15:25:19 < karlp> "hacked by not us" 2018-06-13T15:27:03 < kakimir> they should say "not only by us" 2018-06-13T15:27:57 < day> i like how a seemingly up to date agency is giving advice like " and remove the battery when not in use." 2018-06-13T15:28:52 < Laurenceb> >Russian hackers 2018-06-13T15:28:54 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-13T15:29:37 < kakimir> I wonder if my phones chipset can be remotelly hacked remotelly 2018-06-13T15:29:38 < Laurenceb> Alex Jones: > They are turning the freaking frogs gay!! 2018-06-13T15:29:47 < Laurenceb> MSM: > hold my beer 2018-06-13T15:29:56 < kakimir> if there is some sort of page that follows hackability of different chipsets 2018-06-13T15:30:09 < Laurenceb> MSM: > RUSSIANS!!! RUSSIAN HAXORS ON STEROIDS 2018-06-13T15:30:20 < day> kakimir: ive read some storys about the modem chip being updateable via the network dunno if true or not 2018-06-13T15:30:35 < kakimir> well device like phone - it's powered until you remove source of power 2018-06-13T15:30:48 < kakimir> it can indeed play dead 2018-06-13T15:31:18 < day> i havent seen a phone with a replaceable battery in a while 2018-06-13T15:31:59 < kakimir> all my last phones have had 2018-06-13T15:32:08 < kakimir> but current one is integrated 2018-06-13T15:35:57 < kakimir> jpa-: does tlv493 use the whole usable range of 12bits? 2018-06-13T15:40:00 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-13T15:40:39 < jadew> day, you'll start seeing them again 2018-06-13T15:41:26 < jadew> there's that new EU regulation that pretty much prohibits such batteries 2018-06-13T15:41:39 < jadew> not sure when they're going to make it a reality, but it's on the way 2018-06-13T15:43:05 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T15:47:07 < day> jadew: eh? whats the name of it? 2018-06-13T15:48:27 < day> i doubt that its going to happen though. there are plenty of reasons to integrate a battery and with that plenty of loop holes. "but it is designed for wet environments therefor needs to be water proof" "but....." 2018-06-13T15:49:15 < veverak> make it replaceable || manufacturer has to provide battery replacement in servis for 5 yeras 2018-06-13T15:49:18 < veverak> <3 2018-06-13T15:52:11 < jadew> day, I don't know the name, but it relates to devices being repairable for a longer period of time 2018-06-13T15:52:37 < jadew> and I think batteries that the user can't easily replace are especially mentioned 2018-06-13T15:57:56 < kakimir> I have had samsungs with replaceable battery 2018-06-13T15:58:03 < kakimir> and ip67 ratings 2018-06-13T15:58:19 < kakimir> but fuck usb port and headphone jack without doors 2018-06-13T15:59:12 < kakimir> even in their xcover line they removed them and phone went from shit to total garbage 2018-06-13T16:00:27 < kakimir> it's ip67/68 but don't plan to use it until it's completelly dry inside connectors because it will crash the system 2018-06-13T16:01:19 < kakimir> but loop it goes in basically dries the phone 2018-06-13T16:01:56 < kakimir> when it can't decide if headphone jack is connected or not or if the phone is charging or not 2018-06-13T16:04:39 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uqaffvxuoyqbwcjm] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T16:06:42 < kakimir> wow I actually shot myself in leg with my type spec 2018-06-13T16:07:10 < zyp> you don't say 2018-06-13T16:21:13 * karlp laughs 2018-06-13T16:43:34 < kakimir> there 2bits in register to tell if conversion is ongoing jpa 2018-06-13T16:44:08 < kakimir> also frame counter 2018-06-13T16:44:25 < kakimir> read register 3 2018-06-13T16:44:44 < englishman> PIC guy is now blaming PCB inner layers 2018-06-13T16:45:12 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T16:46:55 < Laurenceb> perman00b unless its pcbtrain 2018-06-13T16:47:08 < Laurenceb> in which case it'll be pubic hair inside the pcb 2018-06-13T16:47:37 < Laurenceb> or maybe a sheet of paper from a pronz mag 2018-06-13T16:48:21 < englishman> no it is locally made AOI inspected high quality shit 2018-06-13T16:48:33 < Laurenceb> so not pcbtrain then :P 2018-06-13T16:48:41 < Laurenceb> I found a local place that does pcbs 2018-06-13T16:48:53 < englishman> same guy who said "i am 100% certain it is the mcus" 2018-06-13T16:48:59 < Laurenceb> problem is the guy who runs it is supposedly involved in grooming gangs... 2018-06-13T16:49:12 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T16:49:13 < englishman> gangs that go around cleaning each other's hair? 2018-06-13T16:49:22 < Laurenceb> as in rotherham 2018-06-13T16:49:39 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T16:49:55 < Laurenceb> >gets little grrls addicted to drugs >raep 2018-06-13T16:51:29 < Laurenceb> typical britbong leasure activity 2018-06-13T17:03:07 < BrainDamage> englishman: mucus, not mcus 2018-06-13T17:07:20 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T17:09:01 < kakimir> I have never had faulty pcbs 2018-06-13T17:11:44 < englishman> of course not 2018-06-13T17:11:47 < englishman> that shit doesnt happen 2018-06-13T17:12:15 < englishman> Our traditional Midsummer Bingo kicks off once again! Guess the number of drownings and you could win a 1000€ gift card! 2018-06-13T17:12:41 < BrainDamage> ... how 2018-06-13T17:13:01 < BrainDamage> the amount of drownings here is in the single digit, and typically in extreme circumstances 2018-06-13T17:13:21 < BrainDamage> like a preexisting patology, or scuba diving equipment failures, etc 2018-06-13T17:14:13 < zyp> BrainDamage, what, don't you guys have water? 2018-06-13T17:14:38 < BrainDamage> I guess either people swim less or they are more careful 2018-06-13T17:15:07 < BrainDamage> almost everyone knows how to swim here and typically swimming lessons are part of grade school teaching 2018-06-13T17:15:23 < Laurenceb> arggg nasaspaceflight forums 2018-06-13T17:15:36 < Laurenceb> they are full retard 2018-06-13T17:15:46 < BrainDamage> why the fuck do you keep going there, you know what you'll get and you overreact to it 2018-06-13T17:15:56 < Laurenceb> but should I create an account to tell them for idiotic they are? 2018-06-13T17:16:03 < zyp> BrainDamage, well, yeah, we have mandatory swimming lessons here too 2018-06-13T17:16:23 < BrainDamage> no, you close it and never open it again 2018-06-13T17:17:03 < zyp> BrainDamage, what do you mean by "here"? 2018-06-13T17:17:08 < Laurenceb> BrainDamage: found ur site http://www.ghostnasa.com/ 2018-06-13T17:17:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T17:17:40 < Laurenceb> http://www.ghostnasa.com/posts2/075endofnasa.html 2018-06-13T17:17:41 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-13T17:17:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T17:18:10 < BrainDamage> zyp: in my region 2018-06-13T17:18:24 < BrainDamage> overall in italy it's in the couple hundred 2018-06-13T17:18:29 < BrainDamage> per year 2018-06-13T17:19:37 < zyp> https://www.redningsselskapet.no/content/uploads/2018/02/Drukninger_stats.png <- statistics for norway looks like this 2018-06-13T17:25:00 < Laurenceb> read that as drunkniger 2018-06-13T17:25:17 < Laurenceb> too much internets 2018-06-13T17:27:17 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-13T17:27:19 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T17:27:27 < zyp> so there were 94 drownings in norway last year, three of them were people bathing and three of them were diving accidents 2018-06-13T17:27:43 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T17:28:31 < zyp> so there were 94 drownings in norway last year, three of them were people bathing and three of them were diving accidents 2018-06-13T17:28:58 < zyp> most others seems to be people falling from the coast or boats 2018-06-13T17:32:55 < kakimir> in finland it's grandpa on thin ice 50% of time 2018-06-13T17:33:03 < kakimir> and midsummer fest 50% of time 2018-06-13T17:33:18 < zyp> three cases of people falling through ice 2018-06-13T17:35:39 < PaulFertser> How about drunk people overestimating their swimming skills? 2018-06-13T17:37:21 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-13T17:38:01 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T17:43:02 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T17:43:18 < Cracki> I think that was implied in "grandpa on thin ice" 2018-06-13T17:43:41 -!- bitrot [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T17:44:01 -!- bitrot [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T17:44:34 -!- bitrot [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T17:45:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-13T17:46:15 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-13T17:47:23 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-13T17:55:04 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T18:04:08 < zyp> PaulFertser, presumably bathing accidents 2018-06-13T18:22:55 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-13T18:35:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-13T18:40:23 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-13T18:43:02 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-13T18:52:30 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:04:42 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:09:02 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:09:55 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:10:05 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-13T19:10:33 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-13T19:14:31 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:14:31 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@204.77.3.219] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-13T19:14:31 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:15:02 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:15:48 < Laurenceb> reee Qt failing again 2018-06-13T19:16:02 < Laurenceb> fil = new QFile(filename); 2018-06-13T19:16:17 < Laurenceb> fil->open(QIODevice::WriteOnly) fails 2018-06-13T19:16:27 < Laurenceb> nice that it returns bool, real useful debug 2018-06-13T19:16:52 < Laurenceb> the file path exists 2018-06-13T19:17:21 < c10ud> probably not writable.. 2018-06-13T19:17:22 < c10ud> ? 2018-06-13T19:18:03 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/pKlkDGw.png 2018-06-13T19:18:07 < englishman> this fucking trash 2018-06-13T19:18:17 < englishman> i cant believe this joker is blaming the pcb place now 2018-06-13T19:18:24 < Laurenceb> c10ud: ah yeah 2018-06-13T19:18:26 < englishman> after blaming me for buying defective PIC18s 2018-06-13T19:18:37 < Laurenceb> the directory was created by qt and it has weird permissions 2018-06-13T19:18:39 < Laurenceb> funtimes 2018-06-13T19:18:49 < Laurenceb> lol that pcb 2018-06-13T19:18:56 < englishman> for real 2018-06-13T19:19:12 < c10ud> autorouter much? 2018-06-13T19:20:09 < Laurenceb> grounjd plane? power lines?? 2018-06-13T19:20:17 < Laurenceb> we dont need dat shit 2018-06-13T19:20:49 < englishman> never heard of it 2018-06-13T19:22:46 < Laurenceb> arduautoroute 2018-06-13T19:23:11 < srk> that's like three layers? 2018-06-13T19:26:28 < invzim> englishman: oh man, hope you're getting paid.. 2018-06-13T19:26:45 < englishman> at this point, if i get paid i'll be happy 2018-06-13T19:26:47 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/aAE5rHv 2018-06-13T19:27:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-13T19:27:45 < invzim> hazaa, mbed-tls compiles \o/ 2018-06-13T19:28:03 < invzim> now to see if it can actually do anything useful 2018-06-13T19:30:04 < invzim> my "final solution" for anti-cloning will be to make an rsa certificate of the uniqie ID of the stm32, and store it in OTP memory - and do random check of the signature vs unique id of mcu 2018-06-13T19:30:06 < jadew> Laurenceb, looks like it has a ground layer, because there are vias that go nowhere 2018-06-13T19:30:08 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:3582:bdaa:8c02:5ede] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:30:27 < invzim> if it can be done in a sensible manner without too much trouble 2018-06-13T19:30:44 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y28Diszaoo4 2018-06-13T19:30:48 < invzim> not rsa certificate, signature 2018-06-13T19:31:02 < Laurenceb> my sides are in orbit 2018-06-13T19:32:52 < Laurenceb> >garnish his wages 2018-06-13T19:33:05 < jadew> Laurenceb, what are the prerequisites for that video? 2018-06-13T19:33:14 < englishman> invzim how do you plan to prevent cloning like that? 2018-06-13T19:33:16 < Laurenceb> jadew: 8chan memes 2018-06-13T19:33:29 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5QlSgq7lg 2018-06-13T19:33:50 < englishman> get yo firmware, change the reads to unique ID to read some other register with cloned unique ID, done 2018-06-13T19:34:50 < jadew> englishman, if there's a private key in the chip and the sw has access to all the public keys based on the reported ID, there's nothing the cloners can do 2018-06-13T19:34:52 < invzim> englishman: they signature will fail if the MCU unique ID is different 2018-06-13T19:35:07 < englishman> yes 2018-06-13T19:35:14 < englishman> so you change the reads to unique id 2018-06-13T19:35:27 < englishman> to some other place in memory with cloned uinique id 2018-06-13T19:35:33 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:35:39 < englishman> change 3 instructions 2018-06-13T19:35:42 < Laurenceb> http://www.foxnews.com/science/2018/06/13/einsteins-diaries-contain-shocking-details-his-racism.html 2018-06-13T19:35:45 < Laurenceb> weeeewwwww 2018-06-13T19:35:56 < invzim> then the sha1 of code will change too=more patching 2018-06-13T19:36:05 < Laurenceb> Einstein confirmed masterrace 2018-06-13T19:36:17 < englishman> if your product is worth cloning chinese will innovate around that 2018-06-13T19:36:36 < englishman> poissibly even producing a run of chips with identical unique IDs 2018-06-13T19:36:50 < invzim> it will be a major rewrite/PITA and future firmware updates will fail 2018-06-13T19:37:04 < invzim> and probably cost more to rewrite than to write in the first place 2018-06-13T19:39:32 < invzim> if it turns out to be too big of a hassle, I'll just stick with current scheme which is realkey=key stored in flash xored with UUID 2018-06-13T19:39:55 -!- massi [~massi@host82-30-static.26-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T19:40:25 < invzim> then they will need a readout AND get the uid - simply doing a decap->readout->reprogram will fail 2018-06-13T19:41:58 < Steffanx> Just make the check function always return true .. or something? 2018-06-13T19:42:13 < Steffanx> oldskool serial number crap 2018-06-13T19:42:25 < Steffanx> *license key 2018-06-13T19:44:36 < englishman> decap and readout, wut 2018-06-13T19:55:00 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-13T19:57:08 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T19:57:31 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-13T19:57:41 < Steffanx> Just remove the protection like those germans did with f0 2018-06-13T19:57:49 < Steffanx> always those germans 2018-06-13T19:59:42 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T20:05:54 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T20:08:12 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2018-06-13T20:13:11 < kakimir> just bought iot device 2018-06-13T20:13:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-13T20:17:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T20:26:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-13T20:27:26 < Laurenceb> is there a neat way to handle a file being deleted as I'm writing to it? 2018-06-13T20:27:41 < Laurenceb> atm the whole application segfaults if that happens 2018-06-13T20:32:35 < karlp> handle your return codes properly? 2018-06-13T20:32:43 < karlp> the fuck is wrong with your app if it segfaults on that? 2018-06-13T20:32:52 < karlp> also, well done for testing such a corner case so early. 2018-06-13T20:43:24 < jadew> there's nothing to test 2018-06-13T20:43:47 < jadew> you can't delete a file that's being written to 2018-06-13T20:44:35 < jadew> can you? or maybe you need to explicitly lock it? 2018-06-13T20:45:00 < jadew> doubt that... I don't think you can delete an opened file 2018-06-13T20:45:31 < Steffanx> i think you can. 2018-06-13T20:45:53 < jadew> I'm about to test that, my money are on you can't 2018-06-13T20:45:55 < karlp> I'm pretty sure it just deletes quite happily. 2018-06-13T20:46:01 < karlp> and then your writes fail. 2018-06-13T20:47:50 < jadew> you can't 2018-06-13T20:47:57 < Steffanx> Yes you can. 2018-06-13T20:48:15 < jadew> I got a file in use error 2018-06-13T20:48:18 < karlp> regardless, there's no way your app should segfault :) 2018-06-13T20:48:19 < Steffanx> Create text file on desktop, open file with sublime text, remove file 2018-06-13T20:48:32 < jadew> Steffanx, the file is not open when it's open in the editor 2018-06-13T20:48:35 < jadew> it reads it hole 2018-06-13T20:48:37 < Thorn> you can unlink it on *nix 2018-06-13T20:48:40 < jadew> then it closes it 2018-06-13T20:49:01 < Thorn> but not actually delete (on any os including windows) afaik 2018-06-13T20:49:17 < Thorn> as long as it's open 2018-06-13T20:49:34 < Steffanx> and then monitors just file changes jadew? 2018-06-13T20:49:42 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah 2018-06-13T20:49:58 < Steffanx> I have to see the code to be convinced, sadly it's closed sores :P 2018-06-13T20:50:07 < jadew> http://5.12.144.208/stuff/in_use.png 2018-06-13T20:50:26 < jadew> I got this trying to delete a file I opened for writing 2018-06-13T20:51:10 < jadew> used this code: https://pastebin.com/bD5mfWfJ 2018-06-13T20:51:54 < jadew> might work if it's open for reading 2018-06-13T20:51:58 < jadew> I'll give that a try 2018-06-13T20:52:35 < jadew> same error 2018-06-13T20:52:47 < jadew> we need a betting system here 2018-06-13T20:52:51 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T20:53:13 < Steffanx> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa363858%28v=vs.85%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 didnt try it though 2018-06-13T20:53:24 < Steffanx> and Laurenceb is using lunix anyway 2018-06-13T20:53:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@m213-101-54-153.cust.tele2.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T20:53:45 < jadew> should behave the same I hink 2018-06-13T20:53:47 < jadew> *think 2018-06-13T20:54:37 < Steffanx> should, but wont 2018-06-13T20:54:57 < jadew> did you try it? 2018-06-13T20:55:34 < jadew> let me boot up my VM, I'll try that too 2018-06-13T20:56:24 < jadew> brb 2018-06-13T20:56:29 < jadew> (I'll check later) 2018-06-13T21:33:38 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T21:57:16 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-13T22:03:51 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T22:04:15 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-13T22:06:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@m213-101-54-153.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-13T22:11:47 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T22:11:58 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T22:12:35 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-13T22:28:31 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T22:38:34 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/hGWQkz9 2018-06-13T22:38:38 < Laurenceb> serious business 2018-06-13T22:41:40 < Steffanx> I expected it to move. and then it didnt. 2018-06-13T22:53:56 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uqaffvxuoyqbwcjm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-13T22:54:07 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-13T23:03:33 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-13T23:11:56 < Cracki> nice lime green on gray 2018-06-13T23:12:10 < Cracki> looks like both colors have the same brightness 2018-06-13T23:14:13 < Steffanx> Welcome Cracki. 2018-06-13T23:14:37 < Steffanx> What did you do to the stvn>? 2018-06-13T23:15:04 < Cracki> what should I have done? 2018-06-13T23:15:11 < Steffanx> idk. He's missing 2018-06-13T23:15:46 < Cracki> I don't know nuffin 2018-06-13T23:16:05 < Steffanx> ok, i'll look further 2018-06-13T23:17:28 < Cracki> nickserv doesn't know anything at all! 2018-06-13T23:17:44 < Cracki> maybe ##electronics got him 2018-06-13T23:19:43 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-13T23:20:20 < Steffanx> i bet what is a n***** 2018-06-13T23:22:07 < Cracki> nnnnnormie 2018-06-13T23:52:44 < Steffanx> Hm 2018-06-13T23:54:23 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-5-83.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] --- Day changed Thu Jun 14 2018 2018-06-14T00:15:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T00:25:10 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-14T00:25:18 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T00:57:54 < Cracki> wew a national party is campaigning for election using a bigass banner of che guevara 2018-06-14T00:58:11 < Cracki> if that dude is fair game, I want to see pinochet 2018-06-14T00:58:35 < Steffanx> Must be a hipster party 2018-06-14T01:00:35 < Cracki> communist party, actually. the successors to what used to rule over eastern germany. 2018-06-14T01:03:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T01:31:53 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T01:32:08 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T01:37:19 < karlp> any of you nerds know the "right" place to buy a cheap bidir SFP? 2018-06-14T01:37:34 < karlp> and can I plug ~any SFP into ~any generic pcie SFP NIC? 2018-06-14T01:41:31 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:3582:bdaa:8c02:5ede] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-14T01:46:06 < nn77> I have an STM32 program with a HAL_UART_RxCpltCallback which has randomly stopped being called when a character comes in. 2018-06-14T01:46:53 < Cracki> fs.com? 2018-06-14T01:47:07 < Cracki> (fibershop) 2018-06-14T01:47:29 < Cracki> nn77, do you need to clear any flags after an ISR? 2018-06-14T01:47:48 < nn77> I think the HAL takes care of that. 2018-06-14T01:48:02 < nn77> I've probably sent this thing 100 characters and just suddenly it stops receiving 2018-06-14T01:48:28 < Cracki> do you fuck up any memory? 2018-06-14T01:48:51 < nn77> hard to know 2018-06-14T01:53:27 < nn77> USART2->RDR doesn't seem to change 2018-06-14T01:53:44 < nn77> it's still transmitting to me 2018-06-14T01:55:21 < karlp> Cracki: had just found fs.com, tehy're great. 2018-06-14T01:55:32 < karlp> would need to find a nic, but they defnitely have the prices on the SFPs 2018-06-14T01:55:39 < karlp> they're checking whether have one suitable for me. 2018-06-14T01:57:50 < dongs> karlp: isnt that the place that zyp shops... fiberstore or something 2018-06-14T01:58:59 < karlp> yar, would need to find a nic, work out whether this is worth spending money on or not 2018-06-14T02:10:32 < Cracki> what are you up to? 2018-06-14T02:11:44 < dongs> karlp: the mellanox 10g stuff on ebay is stillcrazycheap 2018-06-14T02:12:23 < dongs> https://www.ebay.com/itm/253682987145 shit like this 2018-06-14T02:12:34 < dongs> https://www.ebay.com/itm/153053070898? 2018-06-14T02:12:37 < dongs> or even entire kit w/cable 2018-06-14T02:12:41 < dongs> including SFshit 2018-06-14T02:12:49 < dongs> i think i picked up my last few sets of SFP jumpers from ebay as well 2018-06-14T02:18:56 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/Dfj98ag.jpg 2018-06-14T02:19:26 < Cracki> that's not even an optical cable, that's just copper through? 2018-06-14T02:19:49 < Cracki> bing supports you all the way :D 2018-06-14T02:20:46 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T02:20:49 < Laurenceb_> muh gui 2018-06-14T02:20:55 < Laurenceb_> its actually happening 2018-06-14T02:20:57 < Laurenceb_> almost complete 2018-06-14T02:24:04 < Laurenceb_> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44472277 2018-06-14T02:24:26 < Laurenceb_> wtf I can be a physics grad and a /pol/ack now 2018-06-14T02:25:42 < Cracki> einstein's ancestry 2018-06-14T02:28:02 < Laurenceb_> gui is still missing... influxdb interface 2018-06-14T02:28:03 < Laurenceb_> :P 2018-06-14T02:28:34 < Laurenceb_> so it's cancer free 2018-06-14T02:30:25 < Laurenceb_> I'll add a function to flash the sensor leds when u click on their icons 2018-06-14T02:30:39 < dongs> Cracki: yes, copper 10g. 2018-06-14T02:30:43 < Laurenceb_> might be useful with tangled wiring I guess 2018-06-14T02:32:01 < Laurenceb_> maybe a masculinity button 2018-06-14T02:32:46 < Cracki> what does that do 2018-06-14T02:35:09 < kakimir> you can be physics grrrl 2018-06-14T02:41:22 < dongs> nice. my tomtop tracking is working now 2018-06-14T02:42:54 < Laurenceb_> Cracki: emails RooshV using the internets interface built for influxdb 2018-06-14T02:43:15 < Cracki> what would that email say? 2018-06-14T02:43:31 < Cracki> (I know the guy ;) 2018-06-14T02:43:32 < Laurenceb_> maybe dox the current user 2018-06-14T02:43:33 < Laurenceb_> for lulz 2018-06-14T02:43:35 < Cracki> good idea 2018-06-14T02:43:49 < Laurenceb_> or a last measures button 2018-06-14T02:43:53 < Cracki> hah 2018-06-14T02:44:53 < Laurenceb_> but seriously, if managers ask where dah influxdb interface is I'll just have to say "its in progress...." 2018-06-14T02:45:16 < Cracki> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2018-06-14T02:45:21 < Laurenceb_> dumping to wav file just works 2018-06-14T02:45:44 < Laurenceb_> once the thread manager thing is working correctly... 2018-06-14T02:45:57 < Cracki> I'd expect wav dump to be way more reliable than some fancy hipster db 2018-06-14T02:46:31 < Cracki> how would that db even store data at this rate? 2018-06-14T02:46:48 < Laurenceb_> very badly 2018-06-14T02:46:52 < Cracki> afaics it's made for single data points with timestamp, not isochronously sampled data 2018-06-14T02:47:05 < Laurenceb_> I tried it with a bash script and it just managed but 70% cpu on my xeon workstation 2018-06-14T02:47:12 < Cracki> lol 2018-06-14T02:47:25 < Cracki> wrong tool for the job then 2018-06-14T02:47:51 < Cracki> error in the specification. customer (manager) doesn't know what they want. 2018-06-14T02:47:56 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2018-06-14T02:48:22 < Laurenceb_> I need to play with some deep learning stuff as a "hobby" at work 2018-06-14T02:48:29 < Cracki> every thing the customer says is just a suggestion. there's no other way. 2018-06-14T02:48:35 < Laurenceb_> I managed to grab a high end deep learning machine that wasnt being used 2018-06-14T02:48:45 < Cracki> some good nvidia hw? 2018-06-14T02:48:47 < Laurenceb_> xeon with 128GB ram and titan X 2018-06-14T02:49:09 < Cracki> the newest stuff, volta, has 125 TFlop/s of fp16 crunch, but for specialized ops (matrix mult) 2018-06-14T02:49:27 < Cracki> how much ram on the titan x? 2018-06-14T02:49:29 < Laurenceb_> yeah I've powered down the card as its annoying and loud 2018-06-14T02:49:33 < Cracki> lol 2018-06-14T02:49:35 < Laurenceb_> dunno havent looked yet lol 2018-06-14T02:49:50 < Cracki> when it's gotta crunch, you need the card 2018-06-14T02:50:05 < Laurenceb_> I played around with some fancy ideas for unsupervised learning on CIFAR-10 2018-06-14T02:50:19 < Laurenceb_> managed to get unsupervised learning to find common features 2018-06-14T02:50:24 < Laurenceb_> but then I got bored... 2018-06-14T02:53:11 < Cracki> getting bored... havent had that feeling for a long time, for lack of any interest 2018-06-14T02:53:25 < Laurenceb_> bbl 2018-06-14T02:53:31 < Cracki> hf 2018-06-14T02:57:50 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-14T03:18:59 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-14T03:30:19 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_Oswald_Mosley 2018-06-14T03:30:22 < Laurenceb_> my sides 2018-06-14T03:30:38 < Laurenceb_> >pro-Islam, pro-EU, against US global supremacy, anti-capitalist 2018-06-14T03:30:48 < dongs> lol 2018-06-14T03:31:03 < dongs> so by that, they're pro-islam-filling-eu? 2018-06-14T03:31:23 < Laurenceb_> > British Union of Fascists (BUF) 2018-06-14T03:31:28 < Laurenceb_> I cant even right now 2018-06-14T03:32:00 < Laurenceb_> surely a troll organisation 2018-06-14T03:39:10 < Cracki> wat? do they not know who mosley was? 2018-06-14T03:39:32 < Cracki> blasted larpers 2018-06-14T03:42:20 < Laurenceb_> ikr 2018-06-14T03:43:52 < Cracki> I could be mistaken as well :P 2018-06-14T03:47:31 < Cracki> as for the islam bit... they could be neutral to islam, but want it where it belongs... or they differentiate between ideology and people 2018-06-14T03:48:38 < Cracki> I keep forgetting that islam is founded on the same book as judaism (christianity as well) 2018-06-14T03:49:44 < Cracki> then again, the "pro-this, pro-that" quote came not from the group itself but from some "journalist" 2018-06-14T03:50:02 < Cracki> and we all know how trustworthy "journalists" are 2018-06-14T03:50:05 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-14T03:50:45 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T03:51:14 < Cracki> >“we would rather chew broken bottles than help you in your latest hatchet job” 2018-06-14T03:51:32 < Cracki> and then the "spokesperson" lets himself be quoted saying that other stuff... 2018-06-14T03:51:42 < Cracki> trolling confirmed 2018-06-14T03:55:37 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-14T04:02:18 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-14T04:09:40 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/b160de1de8/116509.jpg 2018-06-14T04:10:57 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-14T04:14:37 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86OkGaKck3I 2018-06-14T04:14:57 < dongs> https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-01-lego-mmo-development-dogged-by-dong-detection-software 2018-06-14T04:15:02 < dongs> "Players would hide the dongs where the filtering couldn't see, or make them only visible from one angle / make multi-part penis sculptures." 2018-06-14T04:16:55 < Laurenceb_> stvn waifu located 2018-06-14T04:17:35 < Cracki> >hide the dongs 2018-06-14T04:17:41 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T04:17:46 < Cracki> dongs, quickly, get under the floorboards 2018-06-14T04:17:47 < bitmask> whats the difference between pc123 and pc817? 2018-06-14T04:17:59 < Cracki> what are those? 2018-06-14T04:18:17 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T04:18:19 < dongs> looks like isolators/optocouplers 2018-06-14T04:18:34 < Cracki> ic 2018-06-14T04:19:15 < Cracki> http://www.josvandijken.nl/downloads/pdf/cross_reference_optocouplers.pdf 2018-06-14T04:19:16 < bitmask> yea 2018-06-14T04:20:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T04:20:55 < Cracki> 'well just allow dicks' more than half the target audience has one and will eventually discover it 2018-06-14T04:20:55 < Laurenceb_> wew she is on twitter 2018-06-14T04:21:05 < Cracki> that deranged "comedian" 2018-06-14T04:21:07 < Cracki> ? 2018-06-14T04:21:12 < Laurenceb_> I would troll her but that would be giving her the attention she craves 2018-06-14T04:21:13 < Laurenceb_> yeah 2018-06-14T04:21:40 < Cracki> exploitable video 2018-06-14T04:21:58 < Cracki> DaD's GoOgLe HiStOrY 2018-06-14T04:22:03 < Laurenceb_> where do you think I found it 2018-06-14T04:22:14 < Laurenceb_> was wondering where the troll edits came from 2018-06-14T04:22:39 < Cracki> lemme guess, she has her pronouns in the twitter bio 2018-06-14T04:22:44 < Cracki> heh 2018-06-14T04:23:15 < Cracki> wow she doesn't. 2018-06-14T04:23:18 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsBspAHxyQA 2018-06-14T04:23:28 < Cracki> bitmask, what do the datashiets say? 2018-06-14T04:23:38 < bitmask> they are basically the same 2018-06-14T04:23:44 < bitmask> i'll just go with 817 2018-06-14T04:23:56 < bitmask> its only 12v to 5v so either will be fine I guess 2018-06-14T04:24:06 < Cracki> fire will cleanse everything 2018-06-14T04:24:58 < Cracki> >Demi Lardner is creating father milk https://www.patreon.com/demilardner 2018-06-14T04:25:05 < Cracki> sounds kinky 2018-06-14T04:28:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T04:28:35 < bitmask> https://i.imgur.com/WplChxu.png 2018-06-14T04:29:01 < Laurenceb_> pro 2018-06-14T04:29:08 < Laurenceb_> apart from the fact its FDM 2018-06-14T04:30:11 < Cracki> looks like you're gonna put in panels 2018-06-14T04:30:45 < Cracki> nice switches in the lower table 2018-06-14T04:31:17 < Laurenceb_> I always just pay for stuff from an EOS P110 2018-06-14T04:31:22 < bitmask> yea thats what I just added 2018-06-14T04:31:50 < bitmask> panels come later, I just wanted to stack tables for storage for now but figured id print panel holder raisers instead of reprinting later 2018-06-14T04:32:40 < Cracki> ayew 2018-06-14T04:34:27 < Cracki> I got to see some HP 3d printer. it uses powder too, but not a scanning/vectoring laser. inkjet, as you can imagine. shit's heated to below melting, the black ink absorbs incident IR better, pushing the particles above the melting point 2018-06-14T04:34:36 < Cracki> you get a layer every few seconds 2018-06-14T04:34:59 < Cracki> cooldown takes hours, unless you want warped workpieces 2018-06-14T04:36:29 < Laurenceb_> interesting technique 2018-06-14T04:36:56 < Cracki> when I figure that EOS thingy scans at up to 5 m/s, it could be comparable in speed 2018-06-14T04:38:21 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T04:38:54 < Cracki> 20-25 lines per second, assuming a 0.1-0.2mm resolution, that'd be 20-50 mm/s. the inkjet moves a little faster maybe, but the carriages (roller and injket) have to coordinate, which a laser printer wouldn't 2018-06-14T04:39:49 < Cracki> their advantage is that they can introduce arbitrary colors 2018-06-14T04:39:50 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/b160de1de8/116521.jpg 2018-06-14T04:40:06 < Cracki> uhhh 2018-06-14T04:40:17 < Cracki> (1) that's a makita (2) he's too old for this shit 2018-06-14T04:42:22 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081DD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-14T04:44:28 * Laurenceb_ zzz 2018-06-14T04:44:54 < Cracki> hm right, laser sintering works for metal too! 2018-06-14T04:46:50 < englishman> those makita mini impacts are awesome 2018-06-14T04:52:01 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-14T04:53:39 < englishman> https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/totally-pwning-the-tapplock-smart-lock/ 2018-06-14T04:53:46 < englishman> The only thing we need to unlock the lock is to know the BLE MAC address. The BLE MAC address that is broadcast by the lock. 2018-06-14T04:53:54 < dongs> retards 2018-06-14T04:54:04 < dongs> internet of garbage 2018-06-14T04:54:06 < dongs> is taht a fingerprint? 2018-06-14T04:54:06 < dongs> haha 2018-06-14T04:54:11 < dongs> what a waste of hardware 2018-06-14T04:54:50 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-14T04:55:29 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-14T05:01:51 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-14T05:03:09 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T05:10:56 < dongs> ReadError: uhh wat was taht german or someshit app that slipstream drivers into vmware 2018-06-14T05:11:04 < dongs> gonna update my shit to 6.7 and need to put areca driver back into it 2018-06-14T05:11:32 < dongs> ah found 2018-06-14T05:11:34 < dongs> vmwarefront? 2018-06-14T05:16:26 < dongs> hm hte fuck is powercli 2018-06-14T05:18:27 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T05:22:29 < dongs> i hope this is theright shit 2018-06-14T05:22:31 < dongs> beep ReadError 2018-06-14T05:22:35 < dongs> its installing tons of crap 2018-06-14T05:29:36 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-14T05:29:38 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T05:30:57 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T05:36:37 < englishman> i think readie is taking a vacation from irc 2018-06-14T05:36:44 < dongs> ya? 2018-06-14T05:36:49 < dongs> looks 37 days idle 2018-06-14T05:36:54 < dongs> busted for cisco theft 2018-06-14T05:37:14 < dongs> dieforirc 2018-06-14T05:38:29 < bitmask> what can you use to glue plastic to acrylic that doesnt bond 2018-06-14T05:38:33 < bitmask> and isnt CA 2018-06-14T05:44:42 < Cracki> doesn't bond? 2018-06-14T05:44:50 < Cracki> for general plastic gluing, I'd have tried acetone 2018-06-14T05:45:02 < Cracki> works for acrylic 2018-06-14T05:45:23 < Cracki> but does "melt" the acrylic 2018-06-14T05:48:11 < bitmask> isnt that what bonding is? thats what I dont want 2018-06-14T05:50:14 -!- Peter_M [bgdwiepp@115-69-25-80-cpe.spintel.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-14T06:01:45 < Cracki> so... hot glue? 2018-06-14T06:02:08 < Cracki> is the goal to be able to pry it apart cleanly? 2018-06-14T06:02:25 < Cracki> perhaps silicone 2018-06-14T06:02:35 < Cracki> can be mixed to any softness or hardness 2018-06-14T06:03:44 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T06:31:03 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T06:33:28 < dongs> https://youtu.be/1qsRU7C_Gp0?t=38 lewl 2018-06-14T06:55:40 < englishman> dongs, didnt you follow the efnet news 2018-06-14T06:55:47 < dongs> which one 2018-06-14T06:55:56 < englishman> the episode where readie quits irc. 2018-06-14T06:55:56 < dongs> i dont follow anything vap0r/vxp is involved in 2018-06-14T06:56:00 < dongs> oh i see 2018-06-14T06:56:52 < englishman> check out this board https://i.imgur.com/pKlkDGw.png 2018-06-14T06:57:02 < englishman> this is the PICguy that said i sold him dead pics 2018-06-14T06:57:07 < englishman> now he is blaming the pcbfab 2018-06-14T06:57:29 < dongs> is that some 4 layer garbage 2018-06-14T06:57:30 < dongs> jesus 2018-06-14T06:57:33 < englishman> es 2018-06-14T06:57:36 < englishman> yes 2018-06-14T07:01:42 < dongs> good 2018-06-14T07:01:48 < dongs> booted up steam the other day 2018-06-14T07:01:50 < dongs> its still shit 2018-06-14T07:06:40 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-14T07:10:12 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T07:10:19 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T07:13:47 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-14T07:13:47 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-14T07:14:53 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-14T07:16:21 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T07:24:02 < dongs> sensors from old one can be reused. 2018-06-14T07:24:09 < dongs> wireless shit will be an addon for liek 200bux? 2018-06-14T07:24:10 < dongs> or someshit 2018-06-14T07:26:07 -!- bitrot [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-14T07:26:17 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T07:33:13 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@2603:3006:258:0:8c27:de80:6df2:b53c] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T07:33:20 -!- steverrrr [~steve@2603:3006:258:0:8c27:de80:6df2:b53c] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T07:43:14 < jpa-> englishman: what's wrong with that pcb? i assume that the unshown layer is a ground plane? 2018-06-14T07:43:27 < englishman> all 4 layers are shown. 2018-06-14T07:43:50 < englishman> oh no, you're right an inner is missing 2018-06-14T07:43:53 < jpa-> uh, ok.. the unterminated traces like one on left edge seem strange 2018-06-14T07:43:57 < englishman> anyway its the same ratsnest 2018-06-14T07:44:24 < jpa-> aha 2018-06-14T07:44:28 < jpa-> then i understand :P 2018-06-14T07:48:47 < dongs> just looks like eagle autorouted garbage 2018-06-14T07:48:58 < dongs> or 2018-06-14T07:49:02 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/gNe0dbS.png 2018-06-14T07:49:05 < englishman> there we are 2018-06-14T07:49:18 < dongs> is this an IOT device 2018-06-14T07:49:22 < englishman> no 2018-06-14T07:49:23 < dongs> i spot a footprint for a fuckign ESP1488 2018-06-14T07:49:41 < englishman> i doubt it, board is like 1" wide 2018-06-14T07:50:19 < englishman> pic18f that doesnt use usb, and 7seg led displays 2018-06-14T07:50:28 < dongs> nice 2018-06-14T07:52:27 < jpa-> sad thing is that even though the pcb is a mess, that's unlikely to be the reason why it wouldn't work 2018-06-14T07:53:20 < englishman> he admits he does not know what the problem is 2018-06-14T07:53:30 < englishman> just that funky shit is happening 2018-06-14T07:53:36 < englishman> but guess who gets blamed 2018-06-14T07:53:41 < dongs> shoulda used STM32F0 2018-06-14T07:53:43 < dongs> instead of a fucking pic 2018-06-14T07:53:49 < englishman> no more of this shit work without contracts 2018-06-14T07:54:04 < englishman> all future work is COD 2018-06-14T07:54:21 < jpa-> does the pic have any decoupling caps? 2018-06-14T07:54:38 < englishman> probably 2018-06-14T07:54:47 < jpa-> their routing is not apparent :P 2018-06-14T07:55:57 < englishman> the only thing apparent is this guy is a fucking retard posing as a professional design agency 2018-06-14T08:00:24 < dongs> freecancer.com part-timer 2018-06-14T08:06:14 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-14T08:13:10 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@2603:3006:258:0:8c27:de80:6df2:b53c] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-14T08:13:15 -!- steverrrr [~steve@2603:3006:258:0:8c27:de80:6df2:b53c] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-14T08:19:46 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T08:20:21 < Thorn> why do they use buck-boost converters to obtain 3.3V from a li-ion cell? is li-ion still usable below 3.3V? 2018-06-14T08:21:17 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T08:21:39 < Thorn> or is it because buck converters have large dropout? 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2018-06-14T10:14:46 < Thorn> like sy8089 2018-06-14T10:17:48 < qyx> on a 5300mAh battery pack, going down from 3.6V to 3.4V is only about 600mAh 2018-06-14T10:18:05 < qyx> most of the charge is above that 2018-06-14T10:18:34 < qyx> I think it should be enough + UVLO 2018-06-14T10:19:50 < qyx> also I would not use smps for li-ion->3V3 2018-06-14T10:20:35 < Thorn> why not 2018-06-14T10:20:37 < qyx> regulating 4V to 3V3 using a LDO gives about ~83% efficienc 2018-06-14T10:20:59 < qyx> with lower Iq possibly (for cheap parts) 2018-06-14T10:22:11 < qyx> that sy8089 is able to reach higher eff, but meh 2018-06-14T10:24:47 < zyp> I agree with qyx 2018-06-14T10:26:40 < zyp> some years ago, I measured the discharge of a battery over time: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/AcHkc.png 2018-06-14T10:27:01 < zyp> that's voltage vs minutes 2018-06-14T10:29:57 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T10:30:17 < zyp> exactly what voltage you get that knee at probably varies a little bit depending on load and capacity 2018-06-14T10:30:51 < zyp> my load were probably on the order of 0.1C since it lasted for almost 10 hours 2018-06-14T10:31:55 < qyx> on my loggers (4-7days capacity) it is lower, about 3.4V 2018-06-14T10:34:06 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-14T10:34:20 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T10:40:18 < zyp> possibly a bit different chemistry as well 2018-06-14T10:41:13 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-14T10:41:58 < Thorn> ok thanks 2018-06-14T10:44:36 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T10:47:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T10:49:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T10:50:09 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-14T10:50:22 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T10:53:16 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T10:59:59 < Thorn> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/438 why buck-boost 2018-06-14T11:00:49 < Thorn> >when the IC operates as a step-up switching converter, which it does for battery voltages below 3.3V. 2018-06-14T11:01:08 < kakimir> pump! 2018-06-14T11:01:53 < kakimir> to go to all way to vbatt = 2.5V 2018-06-14T11:02:06 < kakimir> without change to vmcu 2018-06-14T11:02:26 < kakimir> think! 2018-06-14T11:02:34 < kakimir> me go to tractor now> 2018-06-14T11:03:20 < Thorn> 2.5V from li-ion? 2018-06-14T11:03:50 < Thorn> itz's supposed to be in uvlo long before that 2018-06-14T11:04:15 < zyp> maybe useful for lifepo4? 2018-06-14T11:04:21 < zyp> or other chemistries 2018-06-14T11:05:02 < Thorn> they say "li+" whatever that means 2018-06-14T11:09:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-14T11:12:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T11:12:30 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T11:13:15 < Cracki> any "lithium ion", is my guess 2018-06-14T11:40:31 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T11:44:39 < dongs> any eufags here 2018-06-14T11:44:43 < dongs> can you click http://mevius.5ch.net/avi/subback.html for me plz 2018-06-14T11:50:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-14T11:53:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T11:59:00 < c10ud> sure 2018-06-14T11:59:10 < c10ud> empty page 2018-06-14T11:59:28 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T12:02:05 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T12:07:34 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-14T12:16:48 -!- dekar_ [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-14T12:18:29 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T12:23:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T12:28:37 < karlp> dongs: yar, but can I use 10g or 1g fibre nics and tell them to only run at 100M fast ethernet? there's no link negotiation on fibre right? 2018-06-14T12:33:31 < dongs> karlp: ? what do you mean 2018-06-14T12:33:40 < dongs> the SFP module determines the speed iirc 2018-06-14T12:33:55 < dongs> a 10g module will run only at 10g and will not work in 1.25g sfp cage 2018-06-14T12:34:29 < dongs> i dont think theres a non-gigabit sfp either unless some ancient out of production shit 2018-06-14T12:36:06 < karlp> well, that was the bit I wasn't sure on yet, and yeah, I have some legacy shit with 100M FE SFP I want to talk to. 2018-06-14T12:36:44 < karlp> I can find compatible wavelengths and things in gige, but not sure if I can just tell the nic side not to slow the link down. 2018-06-14T12:37:02 < karlp> as long as the diodes and lasers on the gigabit end don't burn out the old one.... 2018-06-14T12:37:13 < karlp> but *shrugs* no idea. 2018-06-14T12:37:42 < Cracki> dongs, I get http 451, this is from germoney 2018-06-14T12:37:58 < dongs> Cracki: okay. yeah i think they blocked everyone from eu for gdpr lol 2018-06-14T12:38:05 < Cracki> fuckers 2018-06-14T12:38:06 < yanek> dongs: "multirate sfp" 2018-06-14T12:38:28 < Cracki> I'd expect fiber to just be the physical layer 2018-06-14T12:38:41 < Cracki> what do they talk on that anyway? 2018-06-14T12:39:03 < qyx> karlp: do you have 100M SFP port? or just 100M fiber optics? 2018-06-14T12:39:11 < Cracki> do you configure fixed comm parameters? I'd expect fiber to have some autonegotiation too 2018-06-14T12:39:20 < karlp> Cracki: I don't do shit yet :) 2018-06-14T12:39:35 < Cracki> "you" = "one" 2018-06-14T12:39:46 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T12:39:53 < qyx> did 100M SFP actually exist? 2018-06-14T12:39:59 < Cracki> must have 2018-06-14T12:40:08 < Cracki> we have 100M optical shit still at our univ 2018-06-14T12:40:16 < qyx> I mean SFP 2018-06-14T12:40:17 < Cracki> not sure if that was any flavor of sfp though 2018-06-14T12:40:25 < karlp> I have a 100M sfp port, with 100M fibre optics on the end I need to talk to. I'm trying to evaluate how much hassle it would be to buy the other end of it. 2018-06-14T12:40:36 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T12:40:41 < karlp> qyx: yeah, ther's heaps of 100M SFPs when you start looking ont he vendors for when it was around 2018-06-14T12:40:43 < Cracki> I don't think sfp modules think in Gbps 2018-06-14T12:40:47 < karlp> this is connected to a BCM54616S 2018-06-14T12:41:00 < Cracki> the sfp interface itself, I mean 2018-06-14T12:41:01 < karlp> Cracki: it seems to be related to laser power and rx pin diode sensitivy 2018-06-14T12:41:24 < karlp> which has 100basefx 2018-06-14T12:41:28 < Cracki> yes, don't blind the other side of a 5m cable if your transceiver is made for 10 km 2018-06-14T12:41:48 < dongs> oh good point 2018-06-14T12:41:50 < Cracki> and the link rate between sfp modules is completely independent of the link rate between sfp module and sfp host 2018-06-14T12:42:01 < Cracki> fiber cables do have attenuation 2018-06-14T12:42:06 < dongs> my internet comes over like 25km fiber link that has a 100meg media converter at each end 2018-06-14T12:42:14 < karlp> well, yes, but if the gbit nic can _only_ talk at 1000basefx, then there's no way of setting it to lower 2018-06-14T12:42:15 < Cracki> I've heard of 40+ dB 2018-06-14T12:42:16 < dongs> but its not sfp, just some small box that has sockets 2018-06-14T12:43:04 < sync> Cracki: the classic 1km fiber spool in the rack 2018-06-14T12:43:13 < dongs> either SC or LC connector. one of thoser 2018-06-14T12:43:22 < sync> when you only have long haul SPFs left over 2018-06-14T12:43:41 < Cracki> sometimes I wish there were a photonic induction in our laws of physics 2018-06-14T12:44:44 < qyx> karlp: buyng an old media converter is not an option? 2018-06-14T12:45:05 < karlp> sure, but what does that look like? 2018-06-14T12:45:09 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-acfptfieshisycbh] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T12:45:20 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T12:45:36 < karlp> that still needs the right sfp doesn't it? 2018-06-14T12:45:42 < dongs> karlp: that BCM is gbit tho? 2018-06-14T12:45:49 < karlp> dongs: yeah, on the copper port, 2018-06-14T12:46:03 < qyx> no, classic media converters didn't have sfp port 2018-06-14T12:46:06 < karlp> there's a blank footprint for the copper port beside it, but only the sfp is connected. 2018-06-14T12:46:12 < qyx> just an SC or some other FO port 2018-06-14T12:46:23 < qyx> https://www.i4wifi.cz/LAN-Optika/Singlemode/MC112CS-100-Mbps-WDM-media-konvertor-Eth-Optika-single-mode.html 2018-06-14T12:46:27 < qyx> like this, they are still around 2018-06-14T12:46:36 < qyx> this is singlemode long range though 2018-06-14T12:46:58 < karlp> that sort of thing would be fine yes. 2018-06-14T12:47:17 < karlp> that's even almost right, 1310/1550 bidir, just need to get the directions right. 2018-06-14T12:47:42 < karlp> it's listed as a 10km transceiver at the moment, how short a cable can I really use? 2018-06-14T12:47:58 < karlp> this is starting to sound like it might not be really worth it :| 2018-06-14T12:48:17 < yanek> qyx: TP-Link MC220L 2018-06-14T12:49:11 < karlp> yanek: did you miss the bit where I needed 100M? 2018-06-14T12:49:17 < yanek> oh 2018-06-14T12:49:21 < yanek> sorry :) 2018-06-14T12:49:28 < yanek> too slow for me atm :) 2018-06-14T12:51:32 < qyx> internet people say to use attenuators :S 2018-06-14T12:52:03 < yanek> yep 2018-06-14T12:52:53 < yanek> but i didn't ever burn any sfp with short range single mode link 2018-06-14T12:55:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-14T13:02:29 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-14T13:04:45 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T13:19:35 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T14:23:50 -!- ffffffffffffffff [~ball@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T14:25:53 < Laurenceb> luls Russian grrrl has been asked to make a G.U.I. 2018-06-14T14:25:58 < Laurenceb> in labview 2018-06-14T14:26:05 < Laurenceb> maybe it can track an ip address 2018-06-14T14:26:28 < Laurenceb> she is raging 2018-06-14T14:31:29 < Cracki> you have a russian grrl? 2018-06-14T14:31:49 < Cracki> how do you *not* make guis in labview? 2018-06-14T14:37:50 < zyp> by not using labview 2018-06-14T14:38:21 < Laurenceb> Cracki: she works with me in my basement lair 2018-06-14T14:38:43 < Laurenceb> she has to make a gui to interface with the shaker 2018-06-14T14:38:48 < Laurenceb> makework++ 2018-06-14T14:44:02 < karlp> I thought yoyu were doing that? 2018-06-14T14:55:11 < dongs> he failed 2018-06-14T14:57:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T14:58:22 < Laurenceb> karlp: no I write interface gui for muh sensors 2018-06-14T14:58:26 < Laurenceb> not for shakkers 2018-06-14T15:01:41 < karlp> wht doesn't mbed have fucking any usb yet?! 2018-06-14T15:06:27 < Laurenceb> cuz too hard 2018-06-14T15:06:38 < Laurenceb> interesting http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/auditory/riff-format.txt 2018-06-14T15:06:47 < Laurenceb> til wav can do literally everything 2018-06-14T15:07:03 < Laurenceb> could have embedded comments associated with specific times in the data stream 2018-06-14T15:07:36 < karlp> I bet opening and saving in los of tools will discard them though :) 2018-06-14T15:08:15 < Laurenceb> yeah it looks like matlab audioinfo can only load the descriptors for the whole file 2018-06-14T15:08:58 < Laurenceb> good enough to store wambulance info 2018-06-14T15:10:12 < Cracki> also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_Wave_Format 2018-06-14T15:10:47 < Cracki> some handheld audio recorders add a "cue" chunk 2018-06-14T15:11:02 < Cracki> adobe audition can read that 2018-06-14T15:12:54 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T15:20:46 < Laurenceb> guess there is one way to work this out 2018-06-14T15:20:56 < Laurenceb> store info strings from matlab then open with a hex editor 2018-06-14T15:22:50 < karlp> whenever I feel my own work isn't awesome, I just look at what you're doign and immediately feel better. 2018-06-14T15:22:59 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-14T15:23:06 < zyp> haha 2018-06-14T15:23:08 < Laurenceb> still better than influxdb 2018-06-14T15:28:08 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T15:31:25 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/L1vYqYV 2018-06-14T15:35:14 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/CdbMhl1 wew 2018-06-14T15:35:53 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T15:37:59 < englishman> Thorn: batteries can dip well below 3.3 under load even when fully charged 2018-06-14T15:38:53 < englishman> so just be sure to design your regulator for all known loads and take into account aging 2018-06-14T15:39:57 < englishman> switchers can of course be a bit more efficient depending on your load 2018-06-14T16:00:54 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T16:02:04 < zyp> englishman, I got the impression he were talking about really light loads 2018-06-14T16:11:45 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-14T16:12:29 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T16:45:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T16:53:39 < Laurenceb> http://www.robotplanet.dk/audio/wav_meta_data/ nice 2018-06-14T16:54:38 < Laurenceb> genre obviously needs to be trolling 2018-06-14T16:55:57 < BrainDamage> just treat it as gender 2018-06-14T16:56:16 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T16:56:28 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T16:59:16 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T16:59:26 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T17:06:10 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-14T17:07:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T17:10:00 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T17:12:07 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-14T17:22:30 -!- inca [~inca@cpe-76-189-54-110.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ZZZzzz…] 2018-06-14T17:22:30 -!- inca_ is now known as inca 2018-06-14T17:25:00 < Laurenceb> https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=12233888&cid=56782946 2018-06-14T17:25:01 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - https://znc.in] 2018-06-14T17:25:02 < Laurenceb> kekking 2018-06-14T17:25:46 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T17:27:29 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T17:29:14 < bitmask> what happens if you try to draw too much current from a switching psu? 2018-06-14T17:29:29 < bitmask> would it blow the psu or just cause things to receive less power 2018-06-14T17:34:30 < karlp> "depends" 2018-06-14T17:36:21 < jadew> if you only draw a little too much and the main supply can take it, it will only increase the ripple 2018-06-14T17:37:25 < jadew> then it depends on how the supply is made to deal with over current situations, could shut down, could lower the voltage or it could ignore everything and eventualy blow up 2018-06-14T17:41:34 < jadew> Steffanx, are you familiar with midprint clogging? 2018-06-14T17:42:11 < jadew> I had this issue with a print, where if I added supports, after printing very small bits of the support and retracting a lot, it clogs 2018-06-14T17:42:19 -!- inca_ [~inca@159.63.7.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T17:42:28 < jadew> slicing with a different program that generated different types of supports solved the issue 2018-06-14T17:42:44 < Steffanx> Yeah kinda. Was also caused my too much retraction 2018-06-14T17:42:48 < jadew> but I'm wondering if it's a hardware issue or if it's normal to happen considering what was being printed 2018-06-14T17:43:14 < Steffanx> Not sure how i solved it, i changed quite some paramaters in the meantime 2018-06-14T17:43:22 < Steffanx> By* 2018-06-14T17:43:29 < jadew> I see, so you did manage to solve it 2018-06-14T17:44:21 < Steffanx> Yes, but i changed the temp, retraction speed, amount of retraction, "restart distance" (its how simplify3d calls it) 2018-06-14T17:44:31 < Steffanx> And it was mainly with petg 2018-06-14T17:44:38 < Steffanx> I changed to a different brand 2018-06-14T17:44:45 < Steffanx> I love this new PETG 2018-06-14T17:44:53 < jadew> I see, this is happening with some cheap PLA 2018-06-14T17:45:02 < jadew> just ordered my first spool of PTEG 2018-06-14T17:45:06 < jadew> should be here on monday 2018-06-14T17:45:33 < jadew> PTEG is safe to touch food, right? 2018-06-14T17:45:52 < jadew> (not planning to, just want to know what I'm dealing with) 2018-06-14T17:46:10 < Steffanx> I like simplify3ds trouble shooting page, helpful much. 2018-06-14T17:46:23 -!- inca_ [~inca@159.63.7.230] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-14T17:46:45 < jadew> yeah, I know it, it's good 2018-06-14T17:47:11 < Steffanx> I believe its food safe, but.. never tried 2018-06-14T17:47:18 < jadew> while trying to debug this issue, I figured out that I had the fan that was blowing on the extruder heatsink mounted the other way around 2018-06-14T17:47:38 < jadew> after reversing it I noticed quite a bit of improvment in the surface quality 2018-06-14T17:47:42 < Steffanx> What 3d printer did you get? 2018-06-14T17:47:47 < jadew> prusa mk2s 2018-06-14T17:48:00 < Steffanx> Ah 2018-06-14T17:48:30 < jadew> it's decent 2018-06-14T17:48:38 < jadew> haven't had many issues with it 2018-06-14T17:48:47 < bitmask> ohh people responded, thanks 2018-06-14T17:49:36 < jadew> at one point I had a layer shifting issue, but I think it was related to a loose screw on the wheel that turns the belt, doesn't seem to happen anymore 2018-06-14T17:49:37 < bitmask> i hear petg is food safe but anything used in a fdm printer makes it un-food safe for some reason 2018-06-14T17:49:59 < jadew> bitmask, proably because you print with other non-safe materials? 2018-06-14T17:50:22 < bitmask> not sure what the reasoning was, I guess that could be it but then why not just recommend switching nozzles 2018-06-14T17:50:52 < jadew> maybe it's nozzles too 2018-06-14T17:50:57 < jadew> filthy workers touched them 2018-06-14T17:51:27 < bitmask> I think im gonna upgrade to a titan aero clone 2018-06-14T17:51:36 < bitmask> or maybe real, not sure if its worth the money 2018-06-14T17:52:17 < jadew> which one do I have? the E3D? 2018-06-14T17:52:30 < jadew> wait, is that the same thing? 2018-06-14T17:52:36 < bitmask> the clone is $40 cheaper and comes with a pancake stepper motor, the e3d doesnt come with a stepper 2018-06-14T17:52:52 < bitmask> e3d makes the v6 hot end and titan extruder among others 2018-06-14T17:52:59 < jadew> I see 2018-06-14T17:53:15 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-14T17:53:27 < bitmask> not sure what the prusa comes with 2018-06-14T17:53:42 < jadew> that's the one it comes with it seems 2018-06-14T17:53:47 < bitmask> oh nice 2018-06-14T17:53:50 < jadew> E3D V6 Full 2018-06-14T17:54:29 < zyp> I have a e3d v6 and a titan 2018-06-14T17:54:51 < bitmask> is it an upgrade or is that just what you purchased 2018-06-14T17:55:13 < zyp> I put it on my old 3d printer frame from 2011, instead of whatever shit it came with 2018-06-14T17:55:31 < zyp> I only assembled the printer last year, and I didn't bother trying the original frontend 2018-06-14T17:55:37 < jadew> what's the difference between the two? 2018-06-14T17:56:09 < bitmask> mine has a mk8 clone. not sure what kind of improvement i could get switching to titan aero 2018-06-14T17:56:58 < bitmask> I guess its geared so less chance of skipping steps which was a problem in the past but I seem to have fixed that 2018-06-14T17:57:08 < zyp> the tevo thing I'm borrowing has a much better frame than the MDF shit from 2011 2018-06-14T17:57:21 < zyp> but the extruders and hotend is shit 2018-06-14T17:57:47 < bitmask> you see my cool switches? :) https://i.imgur.com/WplChxu.png 2018-06-14T17:58:00 < zyp> haha 2018-06-14T17:58:20 < jadew> nice 2018-06-14T17:58:22 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/NBlWk41 2018-06-14T17:58:27 < jadew> is that the ikea enclosure? 2018-06-14T17:58:34 < bitmask> yea 2018-06-14T17:58:35 < jadew> stuva or what's it called? 2018-06-14T17:58:37 < bitmask> lack 2018-06-14T17:58:53 < zyp> the extruders on the tevo doesn't grip the filament very well, and there's no pressure adjustment 2018-06-14T17:59:05 < bitmask> I dont have panels for it, just wanted the storage for now, I'll add panels later 2018-06-14T17:59:19 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/NBlWk41 2018-06-14T17:59:28 < bitmask> thats what one of the switches is for 2018-06-14T17:59:30 < zyp> when I printed stuff last weekend I jammed a screwdriver between the handles of the extruder to give it a bit more tension 2018-06-14T18:00:05 < jadew> zyp, can't you build a new housing for the extruder? 2018-06-14T18:00:10 < bitmask> oh I already posted that hah 2018-06-14T18:00:16 < zyp> and the hotend seems to ooze a lot more than the v6 too 2018-06-14T18:00:28 < zyp> jadew, a new what? 2018-06-14T18:00:33 < jadew> bitmask, I want to add a light too, but I think it has to come from the side in order to get a good view of whta's going on 2018-06-14T18:00:47 < jadew> zyp, the whole plastic thingie around the extruder 2018-06-14T18:00:49 < zyp> I could swap to the titan on the tevo frame no problem 2018-06-14T18:00:55 < zyp> just haven't bothered 2018-06-14T18:01:13 < zyp> the tevo frame is not mine, just borrowed 2018-06-14T18:01:20 < bitmask> I got a $1 roll of good white filament as part of a giveaway. I want to print a moon lamp 2018-06-14T18:01:27 < jadew> https://c8.alamy.com/comp/GHPR30/prusa-i3-mk2-3d-printer-heatbed-extruder-printing-head-GHPR30.jpg 2018-06-14T18:01:27 < bitmask> to put on top 2018-06-14T18:01:41 < bitmask> I'm curious to see how lithophanes sp? look 2018-06-14T18:01:45 < jadew> on mine you can adjust the tension from those two screws 2018-06-14T18:01:59 < bitmask> yea mine you cant adjust tension which sucks 2018-06-14T18:02:10 < zyp> yeah, the titan also has adjustable tensioner 2018-06-14T18:02:11 < jadew> they're pushing on the bearing holder with two springs 2018-06-14T18:03:30 < bitmask> I need my refund check from school so I can order some stuff 2018-06-14T18:05:03 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/fvyq3.jpg <- I did a third attempt of a dual extruder print 2018-06-14T18:05:21 < zyp> turned off the whole ooze protection shit, turned out better than with it on 2018-06-14T18:05:41 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/YyBw0.jpg <- first two attempts, if you didn't see 2018-06-14T18:06:05 < zyp> (first attempt had a code bug, blame me for that one) 2018-06-14T18:07:21 < bitmask> I just printed my first two benchys. first one sucked because my fan duct didn't fit with the inductive sensor added but after that I got a pretty good one. the problem is the print would pause for 5-10 seconds at a time which cause blobs to form 2018-06-14T18:07:21 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/smjdya4 2018-06-14T18:07:25 < zyp> I could probably reduce stringing and ooze by more careful tuning, but I don't care too much about that 2018-06-14T18:07:37 < zyp> my goal was to test my firmware, not get perfect prints 2018-06-14T18:11:54 -!- inca_ [~inca@159.63.7.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T18:12:09 -!- inca_ [~inca@159.63.7.230] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-14T18:12:20 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-14T18:15:44 < jadew> paypal just blocked my account :/ 2018-06-14T18:16:01 < jadew> and they require both my ID and an additional proof or residence, which I don't have 2018-06-14T18:16:20 < Haohmaru> wut did u do? 2018-06-14T18:16:31 < jadew> I received some money 2018-06-14T18:17:05 < Haohmaru> some thousands of moneyz? 2018-06-14T18:17:09 < jadew> yeah 2018-06-14T18:17:23 < jadew> 4k 2018-06-14T18:17:54 < Haohmaru> did paypal "block" you cuz of the 4k or you tried to withdraw them? 2018-06-14T18:18:12 < jadew> didn't try to withdraw 2018-06-14T18:18:53 < Haohmaru> what type was your account? 2018-06-14T18:19:27 < Haohmaru> maybe your account was not "seller" so you were only supposed to be buying stuff 2018-06-14T18:21:58 < Haohmaru> i once had to contact them cuz i forgot my password.. well, i was not prepared for the conversation with the guy from india on the other end of the phone 2018-06-14T18:22:05 < Haohmaru> i couldn't understand anything 2018-06-14T18:22:07 < Haohmaru> x_x 2018-06-14T18:22:25 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ4T6YV6Fcg 2018-06-14T18:26:43 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T18:29:02 < jadew> Haohmaru, yeah, regular account 2018-06-14T18:29:09 < jadew> and yes, talked to a fellow in india 2018-06-14T18:34:07 < Thorn> +30 lpc824m201 2018-06-14T18:34:29 < Thorn> what do I do with them now 2018-06-14T18:36:58 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081D49.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-14T18:37:48 < karlp> fuck paypal 2018-06-14T18:38:05 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081320.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T18:38:51 < jadew> yeah... I've heard about cases like this before, but I thought they're exceptions, not the rule 2018-06-14T18:39:11 < jadew> anyway, I have to procure some additional proof of residence, like my official ID isn't enough 2018-06-14T18:40:37 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-14T18:41:17 < Haohmaru> when i registered, i made a "seller" account.. *shrug* 2018-06-14T18:44:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T18:48:24 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-14T18:54:33 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T18:54:34 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T18:55:17 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-14T18:55:31 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-14T18:55:33 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T18:55:48 < Steffanx> I looked at e3d clones too, but read terrible stories about it 2018-06-14T18:55:48 -!- bvernoux1 is now known as bvernoux 2018-06-14T18:56:00 < Steffanx> Mainly the bad quality of some 2018-06-14T18:56:04 < Steffanx> @ mr bitmask 2018-06-14T18:56:11 < Steffanx> So i went with a real one 2018-06-14T18:56:27 < bitmask> I see 2018-06-14T18:56:53 < bitmask> I read the trianglelab one is the only one worth getting as far as clones go 2018-06-14T18:57:04 < bitmask> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Titan-Aero-V6-hotend-extruder-full-kit-free-shipping/32815903993.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.15.44c67215aYT9gn&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_5723115_10130_5722815_10324_10342_10547_10325_10343_10546_10340_5722915_10548_10341_10545_5722615_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_5722715_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620,searchweb201603_55,ppcS 2018-06-14T18:57:04 < bitmask> witch_3&algo_expid=cc52ca3b-5915-438b-844e-6015f57078b7-2&algo_pvid=cc52ca3b-5915-438b-844e-6015f57078b7&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0 2018-06-14T18:57:07 < bitmask> whoa 2018-06-14T18:57:13 < Laurenceb> dat url 2018-06-14T18:59:28 < Steffanx> Id just pay the extra money for a real one :P 2018-06-14T19:00:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-14T19:04:01 < bitmask> yea I probably will 2018-06-14T19:04:11 < bitmask> its an important part 2018-06-14T19:08:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T19:25:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T19:26:05 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS2QwKRhnds 2018-06-14T19:35:34 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T19:36:21 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-14T19:37:35 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T19:39:10 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-14T19:39:19 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-14T19:39:49 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T20:07:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-14T20:08:04 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T20:10:16 < jadew> fucking hell... 6 hours and a half in, 7 minutes till it was done and the fucking print failed 2018-06-14T20:11:01 < zyp> haha 2018-06-14T20:11:07 < zyp> how? 2018-06-14T20:11:23 < jadew> stopped extruding 2018-06-14T20:11:26 < srk> I'm about to run few 14 hour prints for meteo station 2018-06-14T20:11:28 < jadew> I guess it got clogged again 2018-06-14T20:11:42 < srk> uh 2018-06-14T20:11:45 < srk> which hotend? 2018-06-14T20:11:50 < jadew> E3D 2018-06-14T20:11:53 < jadew> v6 2018-06-14T20:11:54 < srk> hmm 2018-06-14T20:12:00 < Steffanx> what temp are you running at? 2018-06-14T20:12:04 < srk> these don't clog that much 2018-06-14T20:12:25 < jadew> 210 2018-06-14T20:13:11 < jadew> it missed the perimeters and part of the layer 2018-06-14T20:13:23 < jadew> maybe it will still look ok 2018-06-14T20:14:35 < jadew> there are only 2 more layers on top of the failed one 2018-06-14T20:14:54 < zyp> karlp, you had any bad experiences with paypal? 2018-06-14T20:20:05 < Steffanx> me too, me too. Actually Ebay and paypal. Where ebay told me to go to paypal and paypal told me to go to ebay. 2018-06-14T20:20:12 < Steffanx> and then i gave up because it was like $10 2018-06-14T20:28:09 -!- retrosenator [~pi@pool-108-15-18-149.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T20:28:27 < retrosenator> I cannot get /dev/ttyACM0 anymore on my blue pill 2018-06-14T20:28:31 < retrosenator> I don't understand why 2018-06-14T20:28:35 < retrosenator> I reflashed bootloader even 2018-06-14T20:31:48 < zyp> I haven't had any bad experiences with paypal so far, but I'm still a bit wary about it, since I've heard stories, so I try not leaving too much money there 2018-06-14T20:32:13 < zyp> but on the other hand it's also convenient to avoid exchanging back and forth 2018-06-14T20:32:45 < zyp> I receive some money in USD, and I also mostly spend in USD, so I like leaving some of what I receive like that 2018-06-14T20:34:00 < Steffanx> i hardly ever receive money on paypal, only stroopwaffle money 2018-06-14T20:34:02 < c10ud> https://www.twitch.tv/nasa mfw nasa+twitch chat 2018-06-14T20:34:04 < Steffanx> which is spend pretty fast 2018-06-14T20:34:17 < c10ud> imagine astronauts reading that in orbit 2018-06-14T20:34:39 < c10ud> this is where it's going 2018-06-14T20:35:22 < zyp> I emptied my paypal account last month because I had uncomfortably much there, now it's grown to about $1k again 2018-06-14T20:35:31 < retrosenator> how? 2018-06-14T20:35:37 < retrosenator> you sell stuff? 2018-06-14T20:35:39 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-14T20:35:42 < retrosenator> what? 2018-06-14T20:35:46 < Steffanx> you sell them maybe arcins? 2018-06-14T20:35:49 < zyp> yes 2018-06-14T20:36:01 < Steffanx> such business.. 2018-06-14T20:36:08 < retrosenator> what is arcins? 2018-06-14T20:36:27 < Steffanx> them maybe = that many, 2018-06-14T20:36:35 < Steffanx> not sure how i wrote "them maybe" lol 2018-06-14T20:36:38 < Thorn> wtf I forgot to tent a via under a fpc connector very close to pins :/ 2018-06-14T20:37:31 < Thorn> Altium Disaster 2018-06-14T20:37:50 < zyp> forgot? you don't have everything tented by default? 2018-06-14T20:37:55 < Steffanx> Not sure how you got from "I forgot" to "Altium Disaster". 2018-06-14T20:38:00 < Steffanx> You cant blame them for your mistakes. 2018-06-14T20:38:10 < Steffanx> That's not how it works 2018-06-14T20:38:23 < Thorn> because Altium Disaster 2018-06-14T20:39:10 < Steffanx> Ill stick to pebkac 2018-06-14T20:39:12 < Thorn> and since it's under a component I didn't see it on 3d view 2018-06-14T20:39:20 < zyp> retrosenator, https://bin.jvnv.net/file/QTIae.JPG 2018-06-14T20:40:01 < Steffanx> Its just hid device with a few buttons/inputs? 2018-06-14T20:40:05 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-14T20:40:16 < Steffanx> And outputs 2018-06-14T20:40:19 < Steffanx> Heh 2018-06-14T20:40:28 < zyp> yeah, for lights in the buttons 2018-06-14T20:40:58 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T20:41:07 < Steffanx> I soon want to do some joystick. Is zyp usb stack good for that? 2018-06-14T20:41:23 < Steffanx> On some f0 2018-06-14T20:42:42 < zyp> shouldn't be too hard to put together if you look at existing code 2018-06-14T20:43:31 < zyp> https://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/tree/main.cpp#n19 <- you'll declare your report like the input section here, whatever combination of buttons and axes you want 2018-06-14T20:43:43 < zyp> then just build and send those reports 2018-06-14T20:44:06 < retrosenator> zyp: what does it do? 2018-06-14T20:44:14 < zyp> retrosenator, what Steffanx said 2018-06-14T20:44:19 < Steffanx> Looks straight forward enough 2018-06-14T20:44:30 < Thorn> I'm going to do hid using my usb stack soon 2018-06-14T20:44:40 < zyp> Steffanx, only problem is I haven't really used f0 much 2018-06-14T20:44:46 < Steffanx> I just need x y z axis though, no buttons 2018-06-14T20:45:08 < zyp> all the parts are there, I've done l0 and l0 uses the same usb stuff as f0 2018-06-14T20:45:16 < Steffanx> But its all standard hid, so cant be hard 2018-06-14T20:45:47 < zyp> but you might have to add some peripheral addrs and stuff 2018-06-14T20:46:08 < Steffanx> Oh thats what i did last time. (Read > 2 years ago) 2018-06-14T20:46:24 < Steffanx> But i dont feel like using STs usb crap for this 2018-06-14T20:46:44 < Steffanx> -but 2018-06-14T20:47:47 < zyp> I figure you should be able to put it together easy enough 2018-06-14T20:48:10 < Steffanx> You didnt do the register bits definition, so i wrote some code once to generate that. 2018-06-14T20:48:18 < Steffanx> definitions* 2018-06-14T20:48:33 < zyp> like the field names? 2018-06-14T20:49:02 < Steffanx> Yeah, i like that more than random hex numbers 2018-06-14T20:49:14 < Steffanx> I know you dont :P 2018-06-14T20:49:18 < zyp> I mostly don't use hex numbers anymore 2018-06-14T20:49:56 < Steffanx> 0bxxxxxxxx instead? 2018-06-14T20:50:09 < zyp> DMA2.reg.S[0].CR = (0 << 25) | (1 << 13) | (1 << 11) | (1 << 10) | (1 << 8) | (0 << 6) | (1 << 4) | (1 << 0); // CH0, MSIZE=16, PSIZE=16, MINC, CIRC, DIR=P2M, TCIE, EN 2018-06-14T20:50:14 < zyp> stuff like this, typically 2018-06-14T20:50:22 < Steffanx> Oh. Hm 2018-06-14T20:51:37 < zyp> I'm not opposed to having field names defined, just not inclined to spend the time it takes to do it in a sane way 2018-06-14T20:53:02 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T21:00:14 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-14T21:01:34 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T21:04:43 < englishman> https://www.twitch.tv/nasa 2018-06-14T21:05:27 < Laurenceb> nasa thot? 2018-06-14T21:05:41 < Laurenceb> expecting space nudity followed by death 2018-06-14T21:05:53 < Laurenceb> lul the connects 2018-06-14T21:05:57 < Laurenceb> *comments 2018-06-14T21:06:14 < Laurenceb> 4chan in da house 2018-06-14T21:12:17 -!- retrosenator [~pi@pool-108-15-18-149.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-14T21:13:21 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T21:13:34 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-14T21:14:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T21:23:40 < Steffanx> All as unfunny as Laurenceb 2018-06-14T21:33:42 < Laurenceb> is a QString constant size or not? 2018-06-14T21:33:57 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-14T21:34:47 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:c198:f746:3aa:a1f8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T21:38:34 < Steffanx> highly unlikely. 2018-06-14T21:38:41 < Steffanx> Did you read the docs of qstring mr Laurenceb? 2018-06-14T21:38:47 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-14T21:38:49 < Steffanx> The append() function is typically very fast (constant time), because QString preallocates extra space at the end of the string data so it can grow without reallocating the entire string each time. 2018-06-14T21:39:29 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T21:39:36 < Steffanx> kinda answers your question 2018-06-14T21:40:28 < Laurenceb> hmm 2018-06-14T21:40:31 < Laurenceb> something is fucked 2018-06-14T21:40:55 < Laurenceb> somehow my string is "usr/local/sbin" 2018-06-14T21:40:57 < Laurenceb> how in the... 2018-06-14T21:41:53 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 2018-06-14T21:43:05 < Laurenceb> intf.device->serial=QString(((*devices)[m]).serial.unicode()); 2018-06-14T21:43:09 < Laurenceb> I'm so confuse 2018-06-14T21:43:19 < Laurenceb> time to try killing and running again... 2018-06-14T21:43:41 < Steffanx> < Laurenceb> luls Russian grrrl has been asked to make a G.U.I. < Laurenceb> she is raging 2018-06-14T21:43:44 < Steffanx> > lolled 2018-06-14T21:44:45 < Laurenceb> hmm similar issue 2018-06-14T21:44:47 < Laurenceb> wtf 2018-06-14T21:44:59 < Laurenceb> clearly I need a gui consultant 2018-06-14T21:45:08 < Laurenceb> I have literally no clue whats going on any more 2018-06-14T21:45:34 < Steffanx> Although it is a GUI, your issues are not related to that at all. 2018-06-14T21:45:38 < Steffanx> im 100% sure of that :P 2018-06-14T21:46:23 < Laurenceb> serial is now "" 2018-06-14T21:46:24 < Laurenceb> wtf 2018-06-14T21:46:43 < Laurenceb> guess I should breakpoint at that line 2018-06-14T21:48:53 < Steffanx> Englighten me Laurenceb. Did you figure it out? 2018-06-14T21:49:02 < mawk> (*devices)[m] 2018-06-14T21:49:07 < Laurenceb> well I can see it breaking 2018-06-14T21:49:10 < Laurenceb> dunno why tho 2018-06-14T21:49:11 < mawk> you're in C++ and you have to make stuff like pointer to pointer 2018-06-14T21:49:14 < mawk> that looks dirty 2018-06-14T21:50:22 < Laurenceb> arg I see the issue 2018-06-14T21:50:28 < Laurenceb> the string is in heap 2018-06-14T21:50:31 < Laurenceb> *stack 2018-06-14T21:50:54 < Laurenceb> dunno how to solve this shit now 2018-06-14T21:51:25 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T21:51:32 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/v7Jg19id 2018-06-14T21:52:45 < Laurenceb> serial gets broken 2018-06-14T21:54:15 < Laurenceb> do I need to allocate a bytearray or something? 2018-06-14T21:55:08 < c10ud> what is serial 2018-06-14T21:55:10 < c10ud> a ptr? 2018-06-14T21:55:20 < Laurenceb> a QString 2018-06-14T21:56:40 < c10ud> I don't think you can do shit like that 2018-06-14T21:56:56 < c10ud> but I don't remember how QString is rendered internally 2018-06-14T21:57:35 < Ultrasauce> you are making life miserable for yourself 2018-06-14T21:57:37 < c10ud> it would be like 10000x better if serial would just be a pre-defined lenght char[] 2018-06-14T21:57:46 < Laurenceb> c10ud: ok 2018-06-14T21:58:04 < Ultrasauce> use new and = instead of malloc and memcpy 2018-06-14T21:58:29 < c10ud> like, if interface_t was a Q_OBJECT class that might work 2018-06-14T21:58:38 < Laurenceb> Ultrasauce: = with QString only copies a reference 2018-06-14T21:58:42 < c10ud> but you're doing c89 and try to mash c++11 inside it 2018-06-14T21:59:13 < Ultrasauce> spoilers: so does memcpy 2018-06-14T21:59:41 < Ultrasauce> except without increasing the refcount etc 2018-06-14T21:59:44 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-14T22:00:17 < Laurenceb> ok I'll try to make it a char array 2018-06-14T22:00:32 < c10ud> interface_t doesn't sould like a type using QObjects after all 2018-06-14T22:00:38 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T22:01:09 < c10ud> also, unicode()? 2018-06-14T22:01:44 < c10ud> how are you naming your periph? "/dev/ttyS1" looks just enough for me, so just plain chars 2018-06-14T22:03:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-14T22:04:18 < Steffanx> what the hell is sensorhandle_t anyway? 2018-06-14T22:04:46 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: a struct 2018-06-14T22:04:48 < Steffanx> Hello mr superbia. Its not saturday or sunday. 2018-06-14T22:05:11 < c10ud> like, another source of bugs, probably, duh 2018-06-14T22:05:18 < Steffanx> but where does it come from that you have to copy it like that mr Laurenceb? 2018-06-14T22:05:25 < c10ud> Laurenceb, I would suggest you only go with basic types in structs 2018-06-14T22:05:28 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: device finder 2018-06-14T22:05:43 < Laurenceb> then devices have to remain constant during recording 2018-06-14T22:06:09 < Laurenceb> ok so how do I find the length of a string in a char array? 2018-06-14T22:06:29 < Laurenceb> just strlen? 2018-06-14T22:07:06 < Steffanx> and who/what fills that struct Laurenceb? 2018-06-14T22:07:13 < Steffanx> And why would that be non-constant? 2018-06-14T22:07:55 < c10ud> Laurenceb, just please nul-terminate that array 2018-06-14T22:08:04 < Laurenceb> k 2018-06-14T22:08:21 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: devices break or are removed from the system 2018-06-14T22:09:06 < Steffanx> i guess i have no clue what you're doing anyway, but .. do you? :D 2018-06-14T22:10:02 < Laurenceb> nope 2018-06-14T22:10:14 < Steffanx> ty 2018-06-14T22:10:24 < Steffanx> Better tell me were the stvn is :P 2018-06-14T22:12:13 < c10ud> also Laurenceb couldn't you just put a sensorhandle_t * in interface_t ? 2018-06-14T22:13:06 < c10ud> oh that's right in the comment, I guess 2018-06-14T22:13:28 < scummos> Laurenceb: what do you mean constant size, the QString object itself is constant size 2018-06-14T22:13:31 < scummos> on a given platform 2018-06-14T22:13:34 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-14T22:13:44 < scummos> it's basically only a pointer to a QStringData 2018-06-14T22:13:46 < Laurenceb> thisdevice.serial="USB audio"; <- how do I handle this with char array? 2018-06-14T22:14:14 < c10ud> strcpy(thisdevice.serial, "USB audio"); 2018-06-14T22:14:15 < scummos> strncpy(thisdevice.serial, "USB audio", 10) 2018-06-14T22:14:29 < Laurenceb> k 2018-06-14T22:14:45 < veverak> so 2018-06-14T22:14:49 < veverak> sprintf | itoa ? :) 2018-06-14T22:15:04 < Steffanx> Dont you know that superbia? 2018-06-14T22:15:09 < c10ud> itoa not always available iirc 2018-06-14T22:15:11 < Steffanx> You're our nim expert 2018-06-14T22:16:57 < Laurenceb> intf.device->serial=(char[MAX_SERIAL])malloc(MAX_SERIAL); 2018-06-14T22:17:02 < Laurenceb> that fails to compile 2018-06-14T22:17:18 < mawk> of course 2018-06-14T22:17:26 < mawk> what's your cast to char[MAX_SERIAL] 2018-06-14T22:17:47 < Laurenceb> because its already allocated? 2018-06-14T22:17:51 * Laurenceb confuse 2018-06-14T22:17:52 < mawk> ah 2018-06-14T22:18:00 < mawk> the array length isn't part of the type 2018-06-14T22:18:07 < Steffanx> https://tinyurl.com/ya9ppn4j 2018-06-14T22:18:07 < Laurenceb> it doesnt need to be allocated right? 2018-06-14T22:18:16 < mawk> just use char * 2018-06-14T22:18:17 < c10ud> Laurenceb, please show your structs 2018-06-14T22:18:34 < scummos> Laurenceb: char foo[30] does not need allocation, right 2018-06-14T22:18:34 < mawk> or char [] 2018-06-14T22:18:37 < scummos> because its not a pointer 2018-06-14T22:18:48 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/4KAfF1Ub 2018-06-14T22:18:50 < scummos> it is just 30 chars on the stack 2018-06-14T22:18:54 < mawk> intf.device->serial isn't a pointer Laurenceb ? 2018-06-14T22:18:57 < Laurenceb> do I need to malloc serial? 2018-06-14T22:18:59 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-14T22:18:59 < scummos> its like writing char a1, a2, a3 30 times 2018-06-14T22:19:11 < c10ud> alright then serial is already allocated, just copy the string in it 2018-06-14T22:19:16 < Laurenceb> I'll delete malloc then 2018-06-14T22:19:24 < mawk> indeed 2018-06-14T22:20:01 < Laurenceb> yay it compiles, thanks 2018-06-14T22:20:08 < Laurenceb> time to run the tests 2018-06-14T22:20:38 < Laurenceb> nope 2018-06-14T22:20:42 < Laurenceb> everything is "7" 2018-06-14T22:21:06 < c10ud> Laurenceb, show how you're copying stuff in it 2018-06-14T22:21:10 < Laurenceb> Running, found: 7 2018-06-14T22:21:11 < Laurenceb> nice 2018-06-14T22:21:29 < scummos> you do not need to allocate the array but it will be filled with random garbage 2018-06-14T22:21:40 < c10ud> also if you're going with c++ and want to use fancy assignments just use Q_OBJECT classes instead of structs 2018-06-14T22:21:41 < Laurenceb> memcpy(thisdevice.serial,m.data(),m.length()) 2018-06-14T22:21:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3be3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T22:22:01 < Laurenceb> m is set correctly 2018-06-14T22:22:05 < Laurenceb> its a QString 2018-06-14T22:22:29 < c10ud> ok memcpy 2018-06-14T22:22:32 < c10ud> where's the nul terminator 2018-06-14T22:22:56 < scummos> Laurenceb: a QString's data() is utf16 2018-06-14T22:22:59 < c10ud> dude 2018-06-14T22:23:02 < scummos> probably not what you want 2018-06-14T22:23:04 < Laurenceb> oh 2018-06-14T22:23:14 < scummos> you can .toUtf8().data() 2018-06-14T22:23:35 < scummos> do not store the pointer to that anywhere though, it is only valid for the expression you use it in 2018-06-14T22:23:53 < c10ud> .toLatin1().data() should be better 2018-06-14T22:24:10 < Laurenceb> strncpy(thisdevice.serial,m.toUtf8().data(),m.length()); 2018-06-14T22:24:11 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-14T22:24:50 < scummos> Laurenceb: that however assumes m.length will be equal to the length of the unicode representation of m 2018-06-14T22:25:05 < scummos> which is true for ascii strings but not in the general case 2018-06-14T22:25:19 < Laurenceb> ah ok, yeah it works now but there is junk on end of the string, makes sense 2018-06-14T22:25:35 -!- qyx [~qyx@gw2.krtko.org] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2018-06-14T22:25:55 < scummos> also I think you need to pass length+1 2018-06-14T22:25:57 < scummos> to copy the null byte 2018-06-14T22:26:11 < scummos> by "i think" i mean you definitely need to do that 2018-06-14T22:26:37 < c10ud> i'd also check for m.length being < MAX_CHARS, so the next time you fuck this up at least you'll get a message 2018-06-14T22:26:48 -!- tpw_rules [~tpw_rules@li1059-135.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: byeeee] 2018-06-14T22:27:19 < Laurenceb> ah that works, thanks 2018-06-14T22:27:31 -!- qyx [~qyx@gw2.krtko.org] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T22:27:53 < scummos> and by "unicode representation" i meant "utf8 representation" 2018-06-14T22:28:36 -!- tpw_rules [~tpw_rules@li1059-135.members.linode.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T22:32:37 < Laurenceb> ok thank seems to work, thanks 2018-06-14T22:33:29 < Laurenceb> bbl 2018-06-14T22:37:37 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-14T22:38:57 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-14T22:42:39 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-14T22:47:00 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T22:50:25 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T22:54:50 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-acfptfieshisycbh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-14T23:06:20 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@c-66-31-1-212.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-14T23:06:34 < dale6998> has anyone here used the built in STM32 bootloader via UART? 2018-06-14T23:08:29 < day> im looking for the 'usb client' documentation in the stm32f411 chip. the documentation only has a chapter on USB on-the-go full-speed(OTG_FS) 2018-06-14T23:08:40 < day> is on-the-go covering everything? 2018-06-14T23:09:09 -!- ski4x7 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-14T23:09:22 < dale6998> is it as simple as pulling holding reset, pulling BOOT0 high, sending 0x7F and then piping the .bin file? 2018-06-14T23:09:40 < dale6998> because looking at their AN, it sure looks that simple 2018-06-14T23:15:29 < vampi-the-frog> day: on-the-go means it can be both a device or a host 2018-06-14T23:15:48 < vampi-the-frog> day: your phone probably has this feature - with an adapter you can use a mouse 2018-06-14T23:15:49 < day> yeah. i just thought theres even more to it. 2018-06-14T23:15:52 < day> yeah 2018-06-14T23:16:05 < vampi-the-frog> day: you can start with the examples to get something going 2018-06-14T23:16:45 < day> examples? :o 2018-06-14T23:17:52 < day> ive got a working thing via libopencm3 but it works terrible. so i thought i try to understand the underlying layer to actually get it working properly 2018-06-14T23:18:05 < vampi-the-frog> try #libopencm3 as well 2018-06-14T23:18:18 < vampi-the-frog> well, you'll have to be more specific about "terrible" 2018-06-14T23:20:03 < vampi-the-frog> also I gotta run, good luck 2018-06-14T23:20:05 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-14T23:24:38 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-14T23:44:45 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3be3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-14T23:53:25 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Fri Jun 15 2018 2018-06-15T00:09:07 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@c-66-31-1-212.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T00:09:55 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-15T00:10:49 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T00:10:56 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T00:12:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-15T00:19:50 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-15T00:19:59 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T00:23:30 < karlp> day: that section of the reference manual is "all" there is. 2018-06-15T00:23:46 < karlp> (you can actually find the upstream synopsis docs, but you really don't need it) 2018-06-15T00:23:54 < day> yeah i figured. 150pages should be enough :^) 2018-06-15T00:24:05 < karlp> well, you can read it in pieces 2018-06-15T00:24:18 < karlp> most people skip all the stuff on HRP and so on, 2018-06-15T00:24:30 < karlp> (which is why so few things really do usb suspend properly, but....) 2018-06-15T00:24:47 < karlp> and you don't noramlly need to read both the host and the device sections unles y ou're really planning on doing OTG. 2018-06-15T00:25:21 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-15T00:25:33 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T00:25:54 < karlp> zyp: my only personal bad experiences with paypal are that they charge more than doing a plain visa transaction. they're just doing everything they can to create a walled garden, and it's slowly crumblign aroudn them. mifid2, bring it on. 2018-06-15T00:26:14 < karlp> (so I just avoid them, but yes, ~everyone I know has a horror story with paypal) 2018-06-15T00:27:05 < kakimir> hellow midnight 2018-06-15T00:31:07 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T00:36:47 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T00:49:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T00:57:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-15T01:22:37 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T01:25:17 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-15T01:25:20 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-15T01:27:44 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:c198:f746:3aa:a1f8] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-15T01:33:33 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T01:36:17 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T01:36:22 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-15T01:44:06 < Thorn> lol Holy Stone Enterprise makes MLCCs 2018-06-15T01:44:14 < Thorn> is it a reference to tombstoning? 2018-06-15T01:48:56 < aandrew> lol 2018-06-15T01:49:15 < invzim> yahahn, https://github.com/kmackay/micro-ecc to the rescue 2018-06-15T01:49:35 < invzim> now I just need something random 2018-06-15T01:50:43 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T01:50:46 < Laurenceb_> muh gui 2018-06-15T01:53:10 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-15T01:53:28 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T01:54:25 < invzim> ha, the ECDSA signature stuff is what's used for bitcoin :) Must be secure, hehe 2018-06-15T01:54:37 < Laurenceb_> today I met with managers 2018-06-15T01:54:48 < Laurenceb_> "wav file... but muh dataflux" 2018-06-15T01:54:55 < Laurenceb_> u mean influx db ?? 2018-06-15T01:55:18 < aandrew> invzim: nice, thanks for sharing 2018-06-15T01:57:45 < invzim> Think I got the lego-blocks to make a decent bootloader now 2018-06-15T01:59:12 < invzim> the stm32f401 doesn't have a random-number thingie - sample stuff from the outside world, or just initialize srand with a % of ticks upon a buttonpress? 2018-06-15T01:59:48 < invzim> I'm not overly concerned tho, main thing is to make it a PITA to reverse, not make it mathematically crypto perfect 2018-06-15T02:02:30 < aandrew> invzim: avalanche mode transistor on ADC or LPCOMP would work 2018-06-15T02:03:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T02:03:14 < aandrew> capture timer ticks for when it avalanches, hash the shit a bit maybe and seed from the unique ID? not sure 2018-06-15T02:33:13 < Cracki> GUI: gooey or gee-you-eye? 2018-06-15T02:34:37 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-15T02:35:25 < aandrew> Cracki: former 2018-06-15T02:35:38 < Cracki> Richtige Antwort! 2018-06-15T02:35:50 < aandrew> Cracki: I2C: "eye squared see" or "eye two see" or "eye eye see" ? 2018-06-15T02:35:57 < Cracki> TWI 2018-06-15T02:36:02 < Cracki> >_> 2018-06-15T02:36:14 < aandrew> I never liked TWI, that's just what everyone says who doesn't want to give Philips any credit 2018-06-15T02:36:17 < Cracki> oy-bus 2018-06-15T02:36:57 < Cracki> in german, square is qua-drat, one too many syllables 2018-06-15T02:37:26 < Cracki> i tend towards IIC rather than I2C 2018-06-15T02:37:50 < Cracki> tho "eye-to-see" sounds profound 2018-06-15T02:37:59 < aandrew> I usually say eye squared see 2018-06-15T02:38:06 < aandrew> but SPI I always say "spy" 2018-06-15T02:38:14 < aandrew> and UART is "you art" 2018-06-15T02:38:41 < Cracki> germans also say "spy bus". it sounds like "Spei-Bus", speien = to barf 2018-06-15T02:38:54 < aandrew> haha 2018-06-15T02:38:55 < Cracki> thou art... 2018-06-15T02:46:21 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T02:52:04 < Thorn> >Due to its black epoxy the device is sensitive to visible and near infrared radiation.. 2018-06-15T02:52:06 < Thorn> wat 2018-06-15T02:53:35 < Thorn> >Applications: Cockroach catcher 2018-06-15T02:56:44 < Cracki> Oo 2018-06-15T02:56:49 < Cracki> blitzangriff? 2018-06-15T02:57:06 < Cracki> wait, it *has* black epoxy, so it shoudl *not* be sensitive 2018-06-15T02:58:22 < Thorn> Chinese datashits 2018-06-15T03:00:38 < Cracki> parts of this world need to burn some more 2018-06-15T03:03:00 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-15T03:05:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-15T03:09:41 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T03:27:27 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-15T03:50:38 < Laurenceb_> a gui in visual basic 2018-06-15T04:09:06 < Laurenceb_> >Hit your wife with the butt of the axe, get down and see if she's breathing. If she is, she's shamming and wants more 2018-06-15T04:09:25 < Laurenceb_> >beat your wife like a fur coat, then there'll be less noise 2018-06-15T04:09:42 < Laurenceb_> >A wife is nice twice, when she's brought into the house [as a bride] and when she's carried out of it to her grave 2018-06-15T04:09:48 < Laurenceb_> >>Russian proverbs 2018-06-15T04:11:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-15T04:12:44 < Cracki> wew I'm sure russian wives have some proverbs about their husbands too 2018-06-15T04:14:43 < dongs> most likely something involving vodka 2018-06-15T04:15:02 < Cracki> certainly that 2018-06-15T04:15:39 < branjb> wife is just synonym for spend all your money 2018-06-15T04:17:17 < aandrew> Laurenceb_: my wife (romanian) says there the proverb is "beat your wife once every day. If you don't know why, she will" 2018-06-15T04:17:37 < branjb> i always liked romanians 2018-06-15T04:17:38 < Laurenceb_> heh 2018-06-15T04:17:48 < aandrew> jadew probably has a better translation 2018-06-15T04:17:50 < dongs> paging @judew 2018-06-15T04:18:02 < Laurenceb_> in uk we just have Victoria Bateman 2018-06-15T04:20:17 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-15T04:21:09 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T04:22:08 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T04:22:45 < Cracki> that proverb isn't just romanian. I've heard that from some arab places too. 2018-06-15T04:25:51 < Laurenceb_> NSFW https://mobile.twitter.com/vnbateman/status/1007310665080541185/photo/1 2018-06-15T04:25:57 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081320.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-15T04:26:00 < Laurenceb_> >go to Cambridge 2018-06-15T04:26:05 < Laurenceb_> >this is your professor 2018-06-15T04:34:27 < Thorn> why are some tapes (such as sot23-6) packed so densely that you can barely cut one without cutting through a component while other tapes (such as 1812 polyfuses) are so sparse that you can fit an extra component between every 2 neighbours? 2018-06-15T04:37:38 < Cracki> I need to set up an audio alert for "NSFW"... 2018-06-15T04:38:07 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-15T04:38:13 < Cracki> Thorn, because they dgaf :P 2018-06-15T04:38:28 < dongs> Thorn: sot2305 are normal 4mm pitch arent they 2018-06-15T04:38:42 < dongs> so tehy can be loaded into standard 8mm reel with 2mm click travel 2018-06-15T04:38:59 < Cracki> the tapes I know have 4mm hole pitch and 2 or 4*n mm component pitch 2018-06-15T04:39:28 < dongs> same feeders i use for 0603 stuff also feed sot23 stuff 2018-06-15T04:39:43 < dongs> its not like tape and reel format was designed for cutting strips of it out you know? 2018-06-15T04:39:48 < dongs> its almost as if it was made for machine loading 2018-06-15T04:39:49 < Cracki> :P 2018-06-15T04:40:08 < Cracki> I hate half reels. shit to fiddle into the machine 2018-06-15T04:40:24 < dongs> i have some monkey tape stuff to fix that 2018-06-15T04:40:42 < dongs> splicer and some split shit, its not bulletproof but once you get through the splice its not so bad 2018-06-15T04:40:46 < Cracki> tape-piece-insert trays? 2018-06-15T04:40:49 < Cracki> or that 2018-06-15T04:41:05 < Cracki> ya I did enough splicing in my life 2018-06-15T04:41:20 < dongs> no its like a little thing that you crimp a piece of tape together through the feeding holes and double side tape for the plastic lead 2018-06-15T04:41:31 < Cracki> I'd just dump the components in a plate and let the optics sort it out 2018-06-15T04:41:43 < Cracki> yes I've seen the metal crimpies to connect tape 2018-06-15T04:41:58 < Cracki> just solve the problem with optics 2018-06-15T04:42:12 < Cracki> any components belly up? bang the table and scan again 2018-06-15T04:42:20 < Cracki> *all 2018-06-15T04:43:13 < Cracki> was thinking of a robotic arm camera and with tweezers, to sort (mixed) components, flip them right side up, etc 2018-06-15T04:46:21 < aandrew> Cracki: have you seen some of hte new siemens simatic PNP machines? vibe feeders that do something similar 2018-06-15T04:46:59 < Cracki> shakkers, mechanical sorting? 2018-06-15T04:47:11 < Cracki> (no, haven't seen anything) 2018-06-15T04:47:41 < Thorn> why are there pnp machines but not npn machines 2018-06-15T04:48:06 < Cracki> pick and pray 2018-06-15T04:49:39 < aandrew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFP0RqktaR4 2018-06-15T04:49:41 < aandrew> I think that was it 2018-06-15T04:49:51 < dongs> ya heh 2018-06-15T04:49:54 < aandrew> the bulk feeders 2018-06-15T04:49:54 < dongs> just dump the bag in it 2018-06-15T04:49:56 < aandrew> yep 2018-06-15T04:49:59 < Cracki> oh shit no-optics! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W87rM4Dc2Nc 2018-06-15T04:50:19 < Cracki> I had access to such a machine, but with two cams, and it moved faster 2018-06-15T04:50:35 < dongs> haha good ol chinatrash 2018-06-15T04:51:02 < dongs> oh i remember mia chen 2018-06-15T04:51:11 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P7DDSTXIQo 2018-06-15T04:51:15 < dongs> creator of this marvel 2018-06-15T04:51:24 < Cracki> shiet that stuff looks awesome 2018-06-15T04:51:40 < dongs> YES WE HAVE DONE IT 2018-06-15T04:53:26 < dongs> MULTIPLY EFFICIENCY 2018-06-15T04:53:27 < dongs> god damn 2018-06-15T04:53:28 < aandrew> no 2018-06-15T04:53:30 < dongs> this video is simply the best 2018-06-15T04:53:30 < aandrew> not we have done it 2018-06-15T04:53:32 < aandrew> we done it 2018-06-15T04:53:46 < aandrew> the siplace stuff is amaze, even the old shit 2018-06-15T04:53:57 < aandrew> I used to do some feeder repair for them 2018-06-15T04:54:06 < aandrew> love german engineering 2018-06-15T04:54:41 < Cracki> that neoden4 looks like it has good optics, so lots of potential 2018-06-15T04:54:50 < dongs> Cracki: i have it 2018-06-15T04:54:51 < dongs> its trash 2018-06-15T04:54:54 < dongs> the feedersa re absolute trash 2018-06-15T04:55:02 < dongs> software is shit too 2018-06-15T04:55:08 < Cracki> rewrite the software 2018-06-15T04:55:13 < dongs> no thanks 2018-06-15T04:55:14 < Cracki> and of course the feeders are shit 2018-06-15T04:55:16 < dongs> i dont use lunix 2018-06-15T04:55:24 < Cracki> put a windows on it :> 2018-06-15T04:55:47 < dongs> im joking, its windows 2018-06-15T04:55:51 < Cracki> python+opencv would be enough to do the optical stuff 2018-06-15T04:55:57 < dongs> its just openCV or wahteer shit already 2018-06-15T04:56:00 < dongs> and soem C++ GUI 2018-06-15T04:56:02 < dongs> python lol 2018-06-15T04:56:04 < dongs> you stupid fucking FAGGOT 2018-06-15T04:56:12 < dongs> Cracki, I have put you on a permanent ignore, public and private. I have found you disturbing, rude and generally not worth talking to. According to the channels you hang on, it strengtens the effect of wanting to put you on ignore because of my lack of interest in you as a person. This message is not meant to be rude to you, just to inform you that i won't see anything of what you type from now on. 2018-06-15T04:56:28 < Cracki> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2018-06-15T04:58:47 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T05:01:28 < branjb> i did a project with an asyril vibratory feeder 2018-06-15T05:01:32 < branjb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhbgumR4W74 2018-06-15T05:04:09 < aandrew> < Cracki> python+opencv would be enough to do the optical stuff 2018-06-15T05:04:24 < aandrew> and 6 man-months to get a half-assed system working that you'd be comfortable leaving alone for an hour 2018-06-15T05:04:37 < branjb> that's a lot of work for what a 10k cognex camera will do out the box 2018-06-15T05:04:42 < aandrew> ^^ 2018-06-15T05:04:48 < Cracki> a what now? 2018-06-15T05:04:53 < aandrew> this is one of the most difficult lessons I have to learn 2018-06-15T05:04:56 < branjb> me too 2018-06-15T05:04:59 < aandrew> is that my time is actually worth quite a bit 2018-06-15T05:05:24 < branjb> I spent 12 months working on a custom opencv vision project that we ultimately scraped and replaced with a $10k cognex camera lol 2018-06-15T05:05:25 < Cracki> don't buy cheap chinese picknplaces then 2018-06-15T05:05:27 < aandrew> lol why did dongs ignore you 2018-06-15T05:05:35 < Cracki> idgaf. prolly trolling. 2018-06-15T05:05:44 < aandrew> it just kind of came out of left field 2018-06-15T05:05:49 < aandrew> wondered if you maybe propositioned him or something 2018-06-15T05:05:53 < Cracki> if you wanna talk to me about the worth of my time, go ahead. 2018-06-15T05:06:07 < dongs> branjb: whats that asyfeed thing, for some medical shit ir something? 2018-06-15T05:06:21 < Cracki> I'm one of the people who you'd *pay* to implement computer vision stuff that isn't ready to buy 2018-06-15T05:06:23 < aandrew> it looks like an arbitrary small parts feeder 2018-06-15T05:06:26 < dongs> oh, theres a pic of it picking up 0402 caps too 2018-06-15T05:06:28 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-15T05:06:35 < aandrew> i.e. not just for electronic PNP but whatever you have a manipulator for 2018-06-15T05:06:54 < dongs> i wonder waht are those pin arrays its assembling 2018-06-15T05:06:56 < Thorn> how do I make a component counter 2018-06-15T05:07:08 < aandrew> Cracki: sure, we all have talents along those same lines in this chan 2018-06-15T05:07:11 < dongs> nice delta 2018-06-15T05:07:14 < Thorn> so that I can put a tape into it and it will tell me how many parts are there 2018-06-15T05:07:34 < aandrew> but I really don't think you'll get anything that is *reliable* enough to walk away from for an hour with less than 6mos of work, even if you know what you're doing 2018-06-15T05:07:40 < Cracki> Thorn, you could just... buy the tech :> 2018-06-15T05:07:56 < Cracki> aandrew, depends on what you call reliable 2018-06-15T05:08:08 < aandrew> the CV is only one part, the other is the mechanics to drive the vibe, coordinate system transforms, calibration and repeatability, maybe even latency, etc. 2018-06-15T05:08:18 < Cracki> if some idiot mechanical engineer gives me a done deal of a machine, I can't do shit 2018-06-15T05:08:29 < dongs> i wouldnt trust my dicknplacing to some opensores trash 2018-06-15T05:08:33 < Cracki> if I'm actually asked what's required for reliable image processing, it can be very robust 2018-06-15T05:09:10 < Cracki> oh I'm not talking about anything except the CV part 2018-06-15T05:09:25 < Cracki> which was in question with the cheap chinese thing that looked like it had good cameras, but shit software 2018-06-15T05:09:54 < Cracki> repeatability is solved by adding linear encoders 2018-06-15T05:10:02 < Cracki> or using servos instead of steppers 2018-06-15T05:10:20 < Cracki> coordinate transforms are a one-time effort to implement 2018-06-15T05:10:46 < Cracki> making this shit usable takes a bit of imagination 2018-06-15T05:11:03 < aandrew> well if you've got a feedback system you can get good repeatability with straight DC motors 2018-06-15T05:11:08 < Cracki> such as mosaicing the inserted pcb, showing a preview (like in flatbed scanners), identifying known fiducials, ... 2018-06-15T05:11:22 < Cracki> the cheap chinese pnps use steppers and limit switches. that's plenty good 2018-06-15T05:11:46 < Cracki> steppers only lose steps if you abuse them. within their performance limits, they're solid 2018-06-15T05:12:21 < Cracki> and "losing" a step, like you'd see on a 3d printer, is an actual defect that can be fixed, not something that "might happen sometimes" 2018-06-15T05:13:31 < branjb> dongs: generic off the shelf vibratory feed, can move parts in X and Y with vibration. we used it to place gold pins into cable connectors 2018-06-15T05:14:05 < branjb> they're just an off the shelf feeder for whatever pick n place / robotics shit you need to hack together 2018-06-15T05:15:33 < branjb> they have some canbus or modbus feature to pair with cognex cameras for orientation / reshuffle 2018-06-15T05:16:03 < branjb> way overpriced but cheaper than developing similar yourself 2018-06-15T05:17:24 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i1GsXdmfIw 2018-06-15T05:18:21 < aandrew> Thorn: how many russians get eaten by their pets each year? 2018-06-15T05:19:36 < dongs> what was a cheap linear reg that does 36V>5V 2018-06-15T05:19:40 < dongs> tiny current 2018-06-15T05:20:31 < Thorn> TPS70950? 2018-06-15T05:20:37 < Thorn> it's 30V iirc 2018-06-15T05:21:41 < aandrew> 36V? TPS7A660 comes up with a quick digikey search 2018-06-15T05:22:16 < aandrew> LM2931 is cheap as shit 2018-06-15T05:22:41 < aandrew> ZXTR2105 2018-06-15T05:22:56 < aandrew> RT9069 2018-06-15T05:23:02 < aandrew> thought this was a hard problem 2018-06-15T05:23:10 < aandrew> AP7381 2018-06-15T05:23:29 < aandrew> https://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/diodes-incorporated/AP7381-50V-A/AP7381-50V-ADICT-ND/7914844 that even comes in pro packages 2018-06-15T05:23:44 < aandrew> fit right on to your breadboard and probably has a Fritzing model 2018-06-15T05:25:05 < aandrew> any linear you want to drop 30V across is gonna get hot though 2018-06-15T05:28:03 < dongs> lol @ to-92 vrsion 2018-06-15T05:28:23 < dongs> you can attach it to a raspberrypi heatsink 2018-06-15T05:28:50 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T05:28:50 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-15T05:28:52 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-15T05:29:09 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-15T05:33:44 < aandrew> you liked that eh 2018-06-15T05:33:48 < aandrew> thought you'd be amused 2018-06-15T05:33:50 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T05:58:38 < dongs> https://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2018/06/11/language/sexual-consent-japanese-making-crystal-clear-no-means-no/ glorious japan, where yes means yes and no also means yes 2018-06-15T06:34:01 < R0b0t1> I finally got this microphone demo to work 2018-06-15T06:34:07 < R0b0t1> Seems like it only works on Linux 2018-06-15T06:48:23 < dongs> https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12960/234_678x452.jpg omfg why wont rgbfags just fucking die 2018-06-15T06:55:01 < sync> but then it is not shiny anymore 2018-06-15T06:55:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T07:08:56 -!- [7] 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has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T08:12:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-15T08:18:40 < Thorn> attn englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EjvzJfrwQ 2018-06-15T08:25:39 < englishman> thanks 2018-06-15T08:25:44 < englishman> what a big kitten 2018-06-15T08:26:43 < Thorn> it's the 3rd mountain lion channel to date lol 2018-06-15T08:28:36 < englishman> https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/05/24/washington-cougar-attack-911-call.hln 2018-06-15T08:29:38 < englishman> oh thats not the one 2018-06-15T08:29:45 < englishman> theres one i heard of that where you can hear the dude dying 2018-06-15T08:31:18 < englishman> When sheriff's deputies located Brooks, the cougar was standing on top of the cyclist's body, which the cougar had dragged away from the scene and partially buried beneath a log. 2018-06-15T08:33:21 -!- Ecco [~user@unaffiliated/ecco] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T08:34:25 -!- Haohmaru 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2018-06-15T10:05:01 < Steffanx> Are you, Haohmaru? 2018-06-15T10:05:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:11:07 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-icupaxikfzqtueop] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:11:12 < jadew> aandrew, that translation was pretty good 2018-06-15T10:11:59 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-15T10:16:32 < stvn> Schutzstaffel 2018-06-15T10:17:55 < Steffanx> Wut the stvn is alive :o 2018-06-15T10:18:03 < Steffanx> Welcome back on earth Kumpel 2018-06-15T10:18:40 < stvn> Yes I was commissioning the mars hyperloop 2018-06-15T10:19:02 < stvn> I told you only the good die young 2018-06-15T10:19:30 < Steffanx> Sounds like just diarrhea. 2018-06-15T10:20:38 < stvn> Where is they 2018-06-15T10:20:53 < Steffanx> Hiding. 2018-06-15T10:21:55 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:22:20 < jadew> is it just me or does this look like a giant ass? https://edition.cnn.com/videos/aviation/2016/03/22/worlds-biggest-aircraft-airlander-10-sdg-orig.cnn 2018-06-15T10:22:33 < jadew> female ass 2018-06-15T10:23:02 < stvn> I hope it explodes 2018-06-15T10:23:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:23:15 < jadew> lol 2018-06-15T10:23:24 < Cracki> englishman, I know, I had to experience it first-hand for over a week. gotta really learn the quirks :S 2018-06-15T10:23:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-15T10:23:49 < jadew> http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160323100940-airlander-10-getty-exlarge-169.jpg 2018-06-15T10:26:22 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-15T10:27:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:28:02 < jadew> dongs, this whole consent shit is garbage 2018-06-15T10:29:54 < jadew> nobody needs verbal consent 2018-06-15T10:31:30 < jadew> if at any point, it's unclear what's going on, it's probably rape 2018-06-15T10:31:58 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-15T10:32:34 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T10:33:06 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:34:12 < stvn> Just had an amusing conversation 2018-06-15T10:34:53 < Steffanx> Aha. With the homeless guy? 2018-06-15T10:35:00 < stvn> Nah 2018-06-15T10:35:17 < jadew> he said no? 2018-06-15T10:35:36 < stvn> He disappeared a few weeks ago 2018-06-15T10:35:53 < stvn> I guess the guy at 7/11 hosed him 2018-06-15T10:36:10 < stvn> Or set a nigger trap 2018-06-15T10:44:35 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:45:17 -!- c10ud^^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-15T10:46:39 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:47:34 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T10:48:21 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-15T11:04:23 < stvn> Peter 2018-06-15T11:16:00 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-15T11:17:25 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T11:22:12 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-15T11:22:34 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T11:36:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T11:37:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-15T11:41:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T11:47:42 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T11:47:49 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:09:55 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@172.79.106.102] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:13:16 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-15T12:13:19 < jadew> "Regrettably, we can only accept a driver's licence as a valid proof of address if it shows that it has been issued within the last 12 months." 2018-06-15T12:13:28 < jadew> fucking annoying... 2018-06-15T12:13:36 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:14:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-15T12:15:24 < karlp> "we just want to keep your money as long as possible" 2018-06-15T12:15:31 < jadew> yeah... 2018-06-15T12:15:41 < karlp> "don't worry, we _may_ release it eventually, we sure as fuck won't pay interest on it though" 2018-06-15T12:16:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:16:09 < jadew> I'm going to tell them to use my fucking official ID as the proof of address and that they don't release them each year, they only release a new one when I CHANGE MY FUCKING ADDRESS. 2018-06-15T12:18:17 < jadew> they want to see my bank account statements 2018-06-15T12:23:03 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-15T12:23:04 < jadew> and they say the transactions have to be visible... god 2018-06-15T12:23:15 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:23:32 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-15T12:23:42 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:27:52 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-15T12:28:05 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:29:25 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-15T12:29:51 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T12:40:18 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-15T12:41:44 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:48:09 < jadew> I told them exactly that 2018-06-15T12:48:10 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T12:48:15 < jadew> minus the FUCKING 2018-06-15T12:50:06 < Steffanx> Your id has you address? 2018-06-15T12:50:37 < jadew> yes 2018-06-15T12:50:37 < veverak> wtf 2018-06-15T12:50:43 < veverak> my itoa goes to HardFault 2018-06-15T12:50:46 < veverak> I wonder why 2018-06-15T12:51:34 < Steffanx> And a photo that is 20 years old because you never moved, jadew ? 2018-06-15T12:51:48 < jadew> Steffanx, 4 years old 2018-06-15T12:51:59 < jadew> they expire after 10 years anyway 2018-06-15T12:53:09 < jadew> it's annoying cuz it's wasting my time 2018-06-15T12:54:21 < BrainDamage> who's that stupid? 2018-06-15T12:54:47 < jadew> BrainDamage, what do you mean? 2018-06-15T12:54:59 < BrainDamage> that refuses a driving license 2018-06-15T12:55:05 < jadew> paypal obviously 2018-06-15T12:55:14 < jadew> I gave them both my driving license and official ID 2018-06-15T12:55:19 < jadew> and they said it's not enough 2018-06-15T12:55:51 < BrainDamage> I'm not sure if it would be even legal here 2018-06-15T12:56:03 < jadew> I'm wondering the same thing 2018-06-15T12:56:18 < jadew> what they're doing seems illegal 2018-06-15T12:57:03 < BrainDamage> I use my driving license as ID because it's much more comfortable to carry around than the paper based one 2018-06-15T12:57:18 < jadew> they're both plastic here 2018-06-15T12:57:26 < BrainDamage> they have started to issue laminated card ids now, and I'll switch to it 2018-06-15T12:58:40 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsY3AMtneFI 2018-06-15T12:58:48 < jadew> lots of stories about how shit paypal is 2018-06-15T12:59:33 < day> its funny how much they claim to care about security. yet i can log in with just a password, no TANs no nothing :D 2018-06-15T12:59:55 < jadew> day, yeah, they have no problem when you're spending money 2018-06-15T13:00:09 < BrainDamage> most of the banks' security comes from statistics based off your usage patterns 2018-06-15T13:00:14 < jadew> they only have a problem with security when you have money in their account 2018-06-15T13:00:33 < day> i should buy a shitload of bitcoins. and tell my bank to retrieve the money they pulled from my bank acc to pay the bill. then claim "i got hacked" 2018-06-15T13:01:04 < jadew> day, heh, that doesn't sounds like jail at all 2018-06-15T13:01:20 < day> honestly i dont think they could do much against it 2018-06-15T13:01:47 < zyp> it's interesting how different countries do stuff like IDs and drivers licenses and everything completely differently 2018-06-15T13:01:52 < day> and the story is pretty plausible 2018-06-15T13:02:15 < jadew> zyp, you don't have your address on the ID? 2018-06-15T13:02:37 < zyp> having your address on your driver's license is completely foreign to me 2018-06-15T13:02:51 < BrainDamage> it's not on my license either 2018-06-15T13:02:56 < jadew> ah, I don't have it on the driver's license, I have my birth address there 2018-06-15T13:03:03 < zyp> "the ID" is also a bit foreign to me, we still don't have official ID cards in norway 2018-06-15T13:03:06 < jadew> I used the driver's license for proof o name 2018-06-15T13:03:08 < jadew> *of 2018-06-15T13:03:39 < zyp> it's been in the works for years, but they haven't managed to issue them yet 2018-06-15T13:03:54 < day> IDs and driver licences are mostly interchangeable in germany for authentification 2018-06-15T13:03:55 < BrainDamage> here the new ID have pki rolled in 2018-06-15T13:04:03 < jadew> I think we've had ID cards for maybe 15 years 2018-06-15T13:04:14 < jadew> or more 2018-06-15T13:04:34 < zyp> I have two pieces of ID: my drivers license and my passport 2018-06-15T13:04:54 < day> never had a passport 2018-06-15T13:05:08 < zyp> apart from that there's bank cards (debit/credit) with pictures, but my bank don't issue cards with pictures, so I don't have that 2018-06-15T13:05:34 < BrainDamage> here it's 3: driving license, passport, national id, and there would be a 4th document which is national health service card, but it's not valid for identification ( doesn't have picture ) 2018-06-15T13:05:50 < zyp> and the post authority used to issue an id card you could get if you had no other id, but I think they've stopped that 2018-06-15T13:05:50 < day> give it some time, it will soon :) 2018-06-15T13:05:51 < jadew> same here 2018-06-15T13:06:34 < zyp> I remember my brother got one of those as a kid, because he needed an id for something and it was cheaper than getting a passport 2018-06-15T13:07:25 < zyp> in any case, none of the IDs would have any address listed 2018-06-15T13:07:31 < BrainDamage> with national ID you can travel in the whole EU and some affiliated states 2018-06-15T13:07:39 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-15T13:07:52 < zyp> norway is also part of schengen, so there's no border control 2018-06-15T13:08:09 < day> even turkey works with a standard EU ID. i was surprised 2018-06-15T13:08:24 < zyp> sometimes there's ID control, like when I take the ferry from here to denmark, but they accept my drivers license as ID 2018-06-15T13:08:34 < BrainDamage> yeah, I got there with just a visa written on the fly at the gate with just my ID 2018-06-15T13:08:46 < BrainDamage> ( turkey ) 2018-06-15T13:08:54 < day> yep 2018-06-15T13:09:43 < zyp> I guess the reason we don't need addresses on physical IDs in norway is that we have a central address registry 2018-06-15T13:10:10 < jadew> zyp, anyone can look it up? 2018-06-15T13:10:21 < zyp> every ID has your personal number (SSN-ish), and whoever needs your address can just use that to look up your address 2018-06-15T13:10:30 < jadew> interesting 2018-06-15T13:10:32 < day> jadew: yeah its called tinder2.0 2018-06-15T13:10:35 < jadew> in here only the cops can do that 2018-06-15T13:10:35 < zyp> jadew, depends on the sense of the world 2018-06-15T13:10:38 < zyp> word 2018-06-15T13:10:46 < zyp> anyone can't, I can't 2018-06-15T13:10:56 < jadew> ah, I see 2018-06-15T13:10:58 < zyp> but any company with a legitimate need to can 2018-06-15T13:11:10 < jadew> that's still good 2018-06-15T13:11:17 < day> cant you check your neighbors income in sweden? 2018-06-15T13:11:18 < jadew> it's worse than having it on the card tho 2018-06-15T13:11:20 < jadew> that's an extra step 2018-06-15T13:11:29 < karlp> having it on the card seems wildly pointless. 2018-06-15T13:11:37 < day> i wonder how this stuff is gdpr compliant :D 2018-06-15T13:11:45 < zyp> if you're signing up for e.g. a phone plan, phone company will look up your addr and send the sim card there 2018-06-15T13:11:48 < zyp> to avoid fraud 2018-06-15T13:11:57 < karlp> day: how would they not be? 2018-06-15T13:12:12 < zyp> day, we can look up anybody's income in norway 2018-06-15T13:12:26 < BrainDamage> the GDPR deals mostly with companies retaining/using private infos that aren't necessary for their service to function 2018-06-15T13:12:30 < day> income is private info under gpdr 2018-06-15T13:12:39 < BrainDamage> in that case, it's a state based service that literally is meant to provide that 2018-06-15T13:12:46 < zyp> day, it used to be totally public before, now you have to authenticate to make lookups and you can see who looked up you 2018-06-15T13:12:47 < BrainDamage> therefore it's ok under GDPR 2018-06-15T13:13:11 < day> so theres an organization making private info public. which should be a violation. similar to registars 2018-06-15T13:13:23 < karlp> day: I think you misunderstand teh gpdr. 2018-06-15T13:13:34 < day> possible 2018-06-15T13:14:24 < day> zyp: ah so they already reduced the access due to gdpr? 2018-06-15T13:14:43 < BrainDamage> registrars don't need at all to publish (nor collect to that depth) the personal infos, that's why they fail under GDPR 2018-06-15T13:14:46 < zyp> got nothing to do with GDPR, this happened like eight years ago 2018-06-15T13:15:47 < BrainDamage> if you own an umbrella selling business, eg, you have no right to ask for someone's income, but if you're a tax collection agency (not that those would exist here), then you would be ok 2018-06-15T13:16:05 < zyp> speaking of drivers licenses, seems like there's a lot of variations in when they expire too 2018-06-15T13:16:08 < BrainDamage> the law also deals with unnecessary retention of user data 2018-06-15T13:16:44 < zyp> nowadays, norwegian drivers licenses are issued for 15 years at a time 2018-06-15T13:16:56 < BrainDamage> as in, data that would be rightful to know at start, but is kept beyond what's considered necessary 2018-06-15T13:17:40 < jadew> BrainDamage, regarding that, I'm not even sure what to do with my site 2018-06-15T13:17:43 < zyp> oh, hmm, the drivers license rules have been changed again 2018-06-15T13:17:46 < Steffanx> I dont even have a passport. Just an ID card, to move around in europe. 2018-06-15T13:17:47 < jadew> I ask for billing and shipping address 2018-06-15T13:18:06 < BrainDamage> how many subjects do you have in your company? 2018-06-15T13:18:09 < jadew> and the user can have multiple sets of addresses associated with his account, then he gets to select one when checking out 2018-06-15T13:18:19 < jadew> just me 2018-06-15T13:18:32 < BrainDamage> then you're a small business and the rules are extremely relatex 2018-06-15T13:18:45 < BrainDamage> relaxed 2018-06-15T13:19:06 < BrainDamage> and worst case, the law provides multiple warnings in advance, were you caught in fail, so you'd have time to adjust 2018-06-15T13:19:06 < jadew> I hope, from what I've read, it's just that I don't need a dedicated person to look after data 2018-06-15T13:19:41 < zyp> according to the markings on my license, it's good until 2088, but it seems like I actually have to renew it before 2033 2018-06-15T13:20:00 < jadew> zyp, hah 2018-06-15T13:20:16 < jadew> ours expire every 10 years 2018-06-15T13:20:34 < BrainDamage> here the license has to be renewed every 10 years if you're < 50, every 5 up to 70, and every 2 afterwards 2018-06-15T13:21:01 < jadew> that's strange 2018-06-15T13:21:11 < jadew> probably to check your eyesight and stuff? 2018-06-15T13:21:14 < zyp> when I got my license, they got issued with a validity until you turn 100 2018-06-15T13:21:16 < BrainDamage> with the license renewal you have to pass a medical test, etc 2018-06-15T13:21:22 < jadew> yeah 2018-06-15T13:21:22 < zyp> but now it's 15 years 2018-06-15T13:21:51 < jadew> they give IDs with crazy expiry dates to old people 2018-06-15T13:21:57 < zyp> I think when they introduced the 15 year limit, they also made the old licenses valid until 65 or something 2018-06-15T13:22:16 < zyp> but now it's apparently 2033 2018-06-15T13:23:14 < zyp> oh well, that gives me another 15 years before I have to care about that :p 2018-06-15T13:24:00 < jadew> unless you have to deal with paypal, they require one that has been renewed in the past year 2018-06-15T13:24:07 < zyp> haha 2018-06-15T13:24:16 < zyp> I never had a problem with that :) 2018-06-15T13:24:39 < day> last time i had issues with paypal i simply created a new account 2018-06-15T13:24:50 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T13:25:06 < day> i rarely get money send to it, so its always empty 2018-06-15T13:25:12 -!- m4t [~matt@2604:180:0:5d2::bad:beef] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-15T13:25:16 < jadew> I'll just spend the money I have there and then stop using them as much as I can 2018-06-15T13:25:52 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T13:26:07 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T13:26:30 < day> they will lose a ton of business this/next year in europe luckily. 2018-06-15T13:27:00 < day> afaik instant bank transactions are soon supposed to be possible 2018-06-15T13:27:16 < jadew> neat 2018-06-15T13:27:21 < Haohmaru> :/ 2018-06-15T13:28:22 < zyp> hmm, looks like I did some sort of verification with paypal in 2013 2018-06-15T13:28:32 < zyp> "We have completed our review of your PayPal account and your account receiving limits have been removed." 2018-06-15T13:28:36 < Haohmaru> i've not gone thru any of that.. the only thing i had to do for paypal is to prove i own the debit card, which was like - they draw $1 from it and stuff a code in the transaction, i then have to see that code and submit it on the website.. 2018-06-15T13:28:41 < zyp> but I don't remember how thorough that was 2018-06-15T13:28:49 < Haohmaru> and this is for every new debit/credit card 2018-06-15T13:29:09 < day> same. they send a few cents to my acc. and wanted me to tell them how much they sent 2018-06-15T13:29:14 < karlp> yeah, paypal only exists as a workaround for banks being absurdly shit 2018-06-15T13:29:33 < karlp> online inter bank transfers in iceland are ~1minute or so. 2018-06-15T13:29:58 < jadew> I never understood why they're so slow 2018-06-15T13:30:01 < karlp> you just give someone your accoutn number and they transfer you money, via their phone app or something. 2018-06-15T13:30:30 < BrainDamage> they probably have humans in the loop and/or schedules checks in batches 2018-06-15T13:31:01 < karlp> BrainDamage: I get that's whyy it _was_ by why is is _still_ like that? 2018-06-15T13:31:08 < jadew> BrainDamage, thing is, you buy something with your card, the money is gone from the account in the same second, but the details show up a few days later 2018-06-15T13:31:22 < BrainDamage> ¯\_( ͡°⌣ ͡°)_/¯ 2018-06-15T13:31:28 < jadew> hehe 2018-06-15T13:31:29 < Steffanx> :) 2018-06-15T13:31:41 < karlp> jadew: its not gone, it just got a hold on it. 2018-06-15T13:31:44 < BrainDamage> I'd assume the balance is electronic without the checks 2018-06-15T13:31:49 < jadew> karlp, still, they know about it 2018-06-15T13:32:01 < karlp> yeah, but marking a reduction like that is easy. 2018-06-15T13:32:04 < Haohmaru> jadew ugh.. when i inject moneyz from my card into paypal and into a given website - it happens for seconds 2018-06-15T13:32:06 < BrainDamage> while the transaction schedule is after they've done all the verifications 2018-06-15T13:32:16 < Haohmaru> i tend to keep my paypal at near-zero balance 2018-06-15T13:32:25 < BrainDamage> so your immediate balance is less reliable because the transaction could be cancelled post-facto 2018-06-15T13:32:57 < BrainDamage> even if, in normal conditions, it's the more reliable of the 2 2018-06-15T13:32:59 < Haohmaru> withdrawing from paypal is teh slow (days) unless you're american 2018-06-15T13:33:17 < BrainDamage> americans with their card and signature 2018-06-15T13:33:19 * BrainDamage shudders 2018-06-15T13:33:21 < zyp> instant domestic transfers is largely a solved problem, but banks are still pretty shit about dealing with foreign currencies 2018-06-15T13:33:49 < karlp> zyp: for you and I maybe, not the rest of the world :) 2018-06-15T13:34:50 < zyp> karlp, how so? 2018-06-15T13:35:01 < zyp> I mean, if you live in an EUR country, sure 2018-06-15T13:35:17 < zyp> but I figure it's still shit to deal with non-EUR stuff 2018-06-15T13:35:56 < karlp> I mean, even inmany countries, domestic transfers are still slow/multi day 2018-06-15T13:38:19 < BrainDamage> here it's multi-day 2018-06-15T13:38:26 < BrainDamage> even within the same bank it takes a day 2018-06-15T13:38:42 < karlp> nordic living man, need to get some of that. 2018-06-15T13:39:11 < Laurenceb_> OOOOH MY FRIDGE CAUGHT FIRE, WOAH OH GRENFELL IS A PYRE 2018-06-15T13:39:58 < BrainDamage> I would love to have an electric buttplug shoved up Laurenceb's ass, with a remote trigger available as irc command 2018-06-15T13:40:14 < Laurenceb_> no homo 2018-06-15T13:40:35 < BrainDamage> right, there would be the risk you'd end up enjoying it 2018-06-15T13:44:58 < zyp> karlp, ah, true 2018-06-15T13:47:28 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-15T13:49:16 < zyp> karlp, standard domestic transfers still have fixed processing times here (every two hours during business hours, usually), but there's also an instant option now 2018-06-15T14:18:06 < Lux> what kind of cheapish reflow soldering oven would you guys recommend ? 2018-06-15T14:18:14 < dongs> T962?? 2018-06-15T14:18:43 < Lux> that's what i thought, thanks :) 2018-06-15T14:20:31 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arsvpfezhwgqfoty] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T14:20:38 < Lux> looks like you can get it for <200 eurobucks shipped 2018-06-15T14:20:40 < Lux> pretty good 2018-06-15T14:24:28 < jpa-> zyp: even here in .fi, domestic bank transfers often take 1 day between banks, they're only instant with the same bank 2018-06-15T14:26:20 < dongs> Lux: i was kinda joking, T962 needs like immediate disassembly/fixing and flashing of new firmware 2018-06-15T14:26:30 < dongs> the default shit in it is garbage, but if you dont mind fucking around and fixing shit its great 2018-06-15T14:26:53 < dongs> tehre's some opensores firmware and you need to patch a couple things on the board 2018-06-15T14:26:57 < Lux> yeah i read about that allready 2018-06-15T14:27:21 < zyp> I haven't done any fucking around and fixing shit with mine, is usable enough by default 2018-06-15T14:27:24 < Lux> but if the alternative is dicking around with a pizza oven it doesn't seem too bad 2018-06-15T14:27:39 < dongs> zyp, you mean it hasnt burned your PCbs to a crisp yet? 2018-06-15T14:27:56 < zyp> largest complaint I have on mine is that the buttons aren't debounced properly so they don't always register presses correctly 2018-06-15T14:27:59 < dongs> like ~8 years ago i was doing batch leadfree production with it 2018-06-15T14:28:08 < dongs> and it caught on fire 2018-06-15T14:28:08 < zyp> yep 2018-06-15T14:28:12 < zyp> no fire yet 2018-06-15T14:28:21 < zyp> not that I've used it for some years either 2018-06-15T14:28:36 < zyp> I think one of my pals have been borrowing it for the past two years 2018-06-15T14:29:16 < zyp> dongs, I mean, I've mostly been paying you to do my prototype assembly recently :p 2018-06-15T14:30:53 < dongs> im looking for a SIP doorphone 2018-06-15T14:30:56 < dongs> without video trash 2018-06-15T14:31:05 < dongs> i dont see anything < $150 even on chinaexpress 2018-06-15T14:31:08 < dongs> i must be looking for wrong shit 2018-06-15T14:31:44 < zyp> I tried looking for that once, don't think I found anything that looked reasonable 2018-06-15T14:31:49 < dongs> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/needs_cheaper/1865284592.html 2018-06-15T14:31:58 < dongs> like this but not milspec and around 40-50 max 2018-06-15T14:32:12 < dongs> my othewr office is 15km way 2018-06-15T14:32:13 < dongs> away 2018-06-15T14:32:20 < dongs> and im tired of postpeople etc leaving shit there 2018-06-15T14:32:25 < dongs> and me having to go and rearrange delivery 2018-06-15T14:32:27 < zyp> I'm probably just gonna buy a nest hello or something 2018-06-15T14:32:39 < dongs> . $229 2018-06-15T14:32:40 < dongs> nope 2018-06-15T14:33:03 < dongs> is that fucking thing wireless 2018-06-15T14:33:08 < dongs> fucking IoT trash 2018-06-15T14:33:38 < zyp> IIRC it's powered through the legacy doorbell cable, then wifi for data 2018-06-15T14:33:52 < PaulFertser> How about a regular sip phone chained to the wall? Or do you need it seriously weatherproof? 2018-06-15T14:34:05 < dongs> no, it doesnt even need to be outside 2018-06-15T14:34:12 < dongs> but japs arent gonna figure out what a phone is 2018-06-15T14:34:17 < dongs> if they dont see a button its not gonna work 2018-06-15T14:34:32 < dongs> i have a fucking sign there that points upstairs into my office 2018-06-15T14:34:36 < dongs> and a phone number written 2018-06-15T14:34:42 < dongs> and they leave shit anyway. 2018-06-15T14:36:01 < zyp> my impression is that nest does good shit, and if $229 gets me something that just works properly without any fucking around, I don't mind spending that 2018-06-15T14:36:13 < PaulFertser> Sounds like they're too lazy, not actually too dumb. 2018-06-15T14:36:29 < Laurenceb_> Dad's Google history? 2018-06-15T14:38:11 < dongs> nest doesnt sound like it supposrts anything open 2018-06-15T14:39:20 < zyp> https://developers.nest.com/ <- they have open APIs, haven't looked at the doorbell in particular though 2018-06-15T14:40:18 < dongs> open as long as its open with thier shitty hardware sure 2018-06-15T14:53:11 < PaulFertser> dongs: 2-way intercom 2018-06-15T14:53:11 < PaulFertser> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/720P-MegaPixel-HD-Wireless-Wifi-IP-CCTV-Camera-with-Pan-Tilt-SD-Card-Slot-and-IR/32272230795.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.c79ce66c547aFk&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10151_10065_10344_5723115_10068_5722815_10342_10343_10340_5722915_10341_10543_5722615_10696_10084_10083_10618_10307_10301_5722715_10059_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_5722515_10621_10620,s 2018-06-15T14:53:17 < PaulFertser> earchweb201603_25,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=7c0edf97-9644-4123-b3b6-c91927bc216e-0&algo_pvid=7c0edf97-9644-4123-b3b6-c91927bc216e&priceBeautifyAB=0 2018-06-15T14:53:20 < PaulFertser> Damn, sorry guys 2018-06-15T14:53:42 < dongs> lets see 2018-06-15T14:53:44 < dongs> i see 720p in tehre tho 2018-06-15T14:54:07 < dongs> lol PaulFertser thats terrible, how im gonna put that shit o na door 2018-06-15T14:54:19 < zyp> duct tape 2018-06-15T14:54:29 < dongs> that would look ghetto as fuck and break the wa 2018-06-15T14:56:07 < PaulFertser> dongs: 3d-print a nice bracket for wall mount. 2018-06-15T14:58:04 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T15:04:36 < Laurenceb_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86OkGaKck3I 2018-06-15T15:06:23 < Steffanx> Fuck those "phone home to china" cameras 2018-06-15T15:17:16 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T15:18:29 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T15:26:57 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-15T15:27:06 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T15:29:30 < kakimir> I have one 2018-06-15T15:29:54 < kakimir> not quite sure what to do with it 2018-06-15T15:30:07 < kakimir> maybe reflash it 2018-06-15T15:30:16 < kakimir> and place behind firewall 2018-06-15T15:30:29 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6013:f865:30f1:477e:a102:9739] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T15:32:53 < englishman> Steffanx: https://www.reddit.com/r/wyzecam/comments/7u7iff/wyze_app_sending_packets_to_china/ 2018-06-15T15:33:00 < englishman> even the made in usa ones! 2018-06-15T15:33:08 < englishman> or, designed in usa lol nothing is made in usa 2018-06-15T15:36:39 < englishman> dongs, your best bet is probably something proprietary 2018-06-15T15:36:39 < Steffanx> Hah 2018-06-15T15:36:42 < englishman> like that wyze cam :) 2018-06-15T15:37:24 < englishman> or this shit https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-05/here-s-why-amazon-bought-a-doorbell-company 2018-06-15T15:37:53 < dongs> is that the amazon doorbell that lets amazon delivery guys in 2018-06-15T15:38:12 < dongs> Bitcoin Futures Fueling ‘Gut-Wrenching’ Declines, Tom Lee Says 2018-06-15T15:39:05 < englishman> yes a $1b doorbell 2018-06-15T15:40:18 < englishman> btw what is the best softphone for android 2018-06-15T15:40:22 < englishman> ive tried everything 2018-06-15T15:40:26 < englishman> and they all fail at some point 2018-06-15T15:40:46 < englishman> been on csipsimple the last year and a half or so 2018-06-15T15:45:15 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-15T15:46:01 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-15T15:50:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T15:55:02 -!- Orson [~Orson@server.v0id.su] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-15T16:04:52 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T16:10:22 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T16:11:04 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T16:15:13 -!- upgrdman 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2018-06-15T17:01:50 < dongs> no idea all my sip shit is hardwaer 2018-06-15T17:01:55 < dongs> i ahve SIP to ISDN converter 2018-06-15T17:02:01 < dongs> that plugs into my dumbphone obx 2018-06-15T17:02:03 < dongs> pbx 2018-06-15T17:03:47 < dongs> if i wont find a retarded SIP doorbell i will just do same shit at the office 2018-06-15T17:03:51 < dongs> the pbx has support for 2 doorphones 2018-06-15T17:05:09 < zyp> what do you use the pbx for? 2018-06-15T17:05:32 < dongs> like... there's line buttons, line1/line2/etc 2018-06-15T17:05:36 < dongs> i press it then dial out 2018-06-15T17:05:39 < dongs> and can put shit on hold 2018-06-15T17:05:45 < dongs> and pickup in another phone somewheer else in the house 2018-06-15T17:05:46 < dongs> etc 2018-06-15T17:05:53 < dongs> like a good ol' key system 2018-06-15T17:06:09 < zyp> "phone in the house" 2018-06-15T17:06:23 < dongs> well i have the pbx in the house 2018-06-15T17:06:27 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-15T17:06:34 < dongs> the point was also isntalling same shit at the office if i cant find a working doorphone 2018-06-15T17:06:51 < dongs> i have 2 doorbells here driven by that thing. people press, and it rings the configured phones 2018-06-15T17:06:57 < dongs> different tone for different door 2018-06-15T17:07:03 < zyp> I were dicking around with sip shit some years ago, even got a sip phone somewhere 2018-06-15T17:07:19 < dongs> i can pick up any phone and talk to the duder outside or just ignore it and let them do wahtever 2018-06-15T17:07:55 < zyp> also a sip line with a phone number 2018-06-15T17:08:03 < dongs> yeah my office line was that 2018-06-15T17:08:06 < dongs> for like 10 years 2018-06-15T17:08:10 < dongs> then NTT stopped that service 2018-06-15T17:08:14 < zyp> eventually I figured what's the point, it's not like anybody would call it anyway 2018-06-15T17:08:16 < dongs> and said "sorry, you cant port the number out, fuck you" 2018-06-15T17:08:59 < zyp> there's very few people that actually call me, and those who do just call my cellphone 2018-06-15T17:09:21 < dongs> gotta have a number for a legit scambiz 2018-06-15T17:09:24 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6013:f865:30f1:477e:a102:9739] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T17:09:45 < zyp> I just put my cell number there 2018-06-15T17:10:15 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-15T17:11:33 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-15T17:22:25 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@c-66-31-1-212.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T17:23:02 < dale6998> hello...does anyone have any experience with the UART bootloader that's baked into the STM32's? 2018-06-15T17:23:25 < PaulFertser> dale6998: what's your specific question regarding it? 2018-06-15T17:24:50 < karlp> they didn't have a specific on yesterday, or didnðt feel like reading... an2606? is it? 2018-06-15T17:25:14 < dongs> AN2606 confirmed 2018-06-15T17:25:35 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-15T17:25:39 < dongs> dale6998: i'm master of STM32 bootlaoder, I even implemented STM32 bootloader flasher on STM32, as well as implemented STM32-compatible bootloader protocol in my own bootlaoder. 2018-06-15T17:31:06 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T17:35:08 < Laurenceb> dale6998: wuts ur problem? 2018-06-15T17:35:19 < dongs> i think he just likes asking questions 2018-06-15T17:35:22 < dongs> and then idling 2018-06-15T17:35:36 < dongs> < dale6998> is it as simple as pulling holding reset, pulling BOOT0 high, sending 0x7F and then piping the .bin file? 2018-06-15T17:35:38 < dale6998> dongs: 2018-06-15T17:35:39 < dongs> no 2018-06-15T17:35:41 < dongs> there's an actual protocol 2018-06-15T17:35:43 < dongs> its packetized 2018-06-15T17:35:46 < Laurenceb> https://github.com/Laurenceb/STM32-Logger/blob/master/jtag/stm32loader.py 2018-06-15T17:35:47 < dale6998> sorry! someone is at my desk asking questions 2018-06-15T17:35:58 < dongs> you need to connect, send 7F, then there's a sequence of things to do 2018-06-15T17:35:58 < Laurenceb> u wurk in a call center? 2018-06-15T17:36:01 < dongs> to get list of supported commands etc. 2018-06-15T17:36:06 < dale6998> seems like it sometimes 2018-06-15T17:36:35 < dongs> AN2606 is for describing all chip boot modes, you need to read AN3155 2018-06-15T17:36:42 < dongs> for the actual serial protocol 2018-06-15T17:36:46 < dongs> http://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/application_note/51/5f/03/1e/bd/9b/45/be/CD00264342.pdf/files/CD00264342.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00264342.pdf 2018-06-15T17:37:34 < dale6998> dongs: oh boy...this is what i was looking for! 2018-06-15T17:37:56 < dongs> literally the 1st hit when you type "stm32 bootlaoder protocol" 2018-06-15T17:38:03 < dale6998> the AN2606 just mentions "do the gymnastics with BOOT0 and RST, then throw out a 0x7F, and then you should be good" 2018-06-15T17:38:04 < Laurenceb> not sure if troll 2018-06-15T17:38:24 < Laurenceb> but if u liek pythong then I linked muh codez 2018-06-15T17:39:18 < dale6998> thanks Laurenceb ...i'm looking at the python code now. this is great 2018-06-15T17:39:22 < dongs> is that even your code 2018-06-15T17:39:30 < Laurenceb> no I stole it 2018-06-15T17:39:39 < dongs> holy shit that looks awful 2018-06-15T17:39:46 < Laurenceb> shrug it works 2018-06-15T17:39:47 < dongs> dale6998: look at stm32flash for code thats acutally readable 2018-06-15T17:39:56 < dongs> (and in C) 2018-06-15T17:40:05 < Laurenceb> ivan@tuxotronic.org 2018-06-15T17:40:10 < Laurenceb> Russian Haxors 2018-06-15T17:40:23 < dale6998> dongs: thanks...i'll check that out 2018-06-15T17:41:13 < dale6998> https://github.com/ARMinARM/stm32flash 2018-06-15T17:41:21 < dale6998> these guys? 2018-06-15T17:41:35 < dale6998> well, looks like the moved to sourceforge, but is this the project you're referencing? 2018-06-15T17:41:44 < dongs> ya tho i think for some dumb raesons they moved to soresforge 2018-06-15T17:41:44 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-15T17:42:48 < dale6998> sweet 2018-06-15T17:42:55 < dale6998> always a pleasure talking to you guys 2018-06-15T17:43:02 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-15T17:45:36 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T17:45:42 -!- Jak_o_Ombroj [~Jak@58.175.241.176] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T17:50:36 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/NqexIsz 2018-06-15T17:50:50 < Laurenceb> >self healing time 2018-06-15T17:53:30 < Laurenceb> DER DER DER-DERDOO HISTORY 2018-06-15T17:55:31 * Laurenceb is actually reading Hoppe 2018-06-15T17:55:42 < Laurenceb> >> There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society 2018-06-15T17:55:48 < Laurenceb> my sides are orbital 2018-06-15T17:58:10 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-15T17:58:10 < englishman> all my personal and bizphone shit is SIP 2018-06-15T17:58:22 < englishman> mainly because data only cellphone is like 1/10th the price of phone number cellphone 2018-06-15T17:58:34 < englishman> plus one number rings all phone in the office, home, cellular etc 2018-06-15T17:58:37 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T17:58:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T17:59:34 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/WSVaKjp 2018-06-15T17:59:39 < Laurenceb> this is just sublime 2018-06-15T18:00:42 < karlp> not funny.png 2018-06-15T18:00:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T18:11:41 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T18:17:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-15T18:27:48 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-15T18:33:32 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T18:36:33 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-15T18:36:37 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-15T18:38:25 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-15T18:40:15 < invzim> before I start bricking stuff.. OTP memory can be written just like normal flash? 2018-06-15T18:50:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-15T18:52:18 < jpa-> invzim: afaik no, IIRC it goes through special regs 2018-06-15T18:52:50 < jpa-> or was it option bytes that has separate regs.. 2018-06-15T18:59:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-15T19:08:12 < invzim> option bytes are special 2018-06-15T19:08:44 < invzim> I think, guess it's only one way to find out :) 2018-06-15T19:10:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T19:12:11 < englishman> which chip? 2018-06-15T19:12:33 < karlp> http://www.st.com/en/embedded-software/algobuilder.html 2018-06-15T19:14:09 < englishman> im pretty sure its flash until you write the otp locks 2018-06-15T19:15:00 < englishman> which are also flash 2018-06-15T19:15:45 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T19:16:57 < invzim> englishman: stm32f401 2018-06-15T19:17:06 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T19:17:29 < invzim> going to use hal which have lock and unlock functions, normal flash works ok 2018-06-15T19:18:22 < Laurenceb> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.58589,-0.2513081,3a,15y,204.99h,84.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVSnRaQxwiX2Oo_fxtqM9Dg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 2018-06-15T19:18:31 < Laurenceb> accurate 2018-06-15T19:19:06 < dale6998> so, i'm using the stm32flash that dongs mentioned 2018-06-15T19:19:22 < dale6998> but, it's not initing the device...so, i'm going even lower 2018-06-15T19:19:54 < dale6998> i've got a buspirate, and a salea logic analyzer...i'm sending 0x7f to an f411 on PA15 and PB7 TX/RX 2018-06-15T19:20:24 < dale6998> but i'm not seeing an acknowledgement of 0x79 from the device 2018-06-15T19:21:26 < dale6998> i've got BOOT0 pulled up, i'm seeing that I'm sending 0x7f to the device's receive pin (PB7) of USART1 2018-06-15T19:21:51 < dale6998> but the TX pin (PA15) of USART1 isn't responding with anything 2018-06-15T19:23:24 < dale6998> i also tried st-info --probe to see if the flash protection is set...but, that outputs good info, so I dont' htink the protection bits are blocking me 2018-06-15T19:23:37 < dale6998> any ideas what step I'm missing? 2018-06-15T19:24:58 < PaulFertser> dale6998: are you using an uart adapter that supports parity? 2018-06-15T19:25:10 * karlp suspects a ch34x device and an older linux kernel.... 2018-06-15T19:25:17 < PaulFertser> My thought as well 2018-06-15T19:25:18 < karlp> though they claim to be a buspirate. 2018-06-15T19:25:28 < karlp> bus pirate as uart adapter sounds pretty dumb though 2018-06-15T19:25:40 < PaulFertser> I can't get how it can work with stm32flash 2018-06-15T19:25:44 < dale6998> it's a debugging step karlp 2018-06-15T19:26:32 < karlp> does bus pirate just have a "please just be a damn usb-uart" mode? 2018-06-15T19:26:50 < PaulFertser> dale6998: so what adapter are you using? 2018-06-15T19:29:43 < dale6998> karlp: yes 2018-06-15T19:30:26 < dale6998> PaulFertser: well, i'm was using an FTDI232 on a PCB I made, but that wasn't working 2018-06-15T19:30:45 < dale6998> PaulFertser: so, then i fell back to the buspirate for it's just-be-a-damn-usb-uart mode 2018-06-15T19:31:01 < PaulFertser> dale6998: are you setting proper parity when testing with buspirate? 2018-06-15T19:31:08 < dale6998> that way, i could just send the one byte that should make it do something 2018-06-15T19:31:13 < dale6998> let me double check 2018-06-15T19:31:52 < PaulFertser> btw, I'm not sure about f411 but on f103 the UART pins are grouped together, it's not like Tx can be on port A and RX on port B. 2018-06-15T19:32:29 < karlp> they can on later ones. 2018-06-15T19:32:44 < karlp> but very unlikely for the bootlaoder 2018-06-15T19:32:49 < karlp> reread an2606 dale6998 2018-06-15T19:33:10 < karlp> it's pretty clear on what uarts it accepts things on 2018-06-15T19:36:49 < dale6998> alright 2018-06-15T19:37:56 < Laurenceb> anyone here understand usb properly? 2018-06-15T19:38:09 < karlp> not you, obviosuly. 2018-06-15T19:38:14 < Laurenceb> the frame number is that same for all devices on a hub? 2018-06-15T19:38:56 < Laurenceb> as SOF is sent to everything right? 2018-06-15T19:51:14 < dale6998> PaulFertser: you we're right about the parity...it wasn't set right, but unfortunately that wasn't the root issue 2018-06-15T19:51:32 < dale6998> PaulFertser: i've set it to 8 bit, 1 stop bit, even parity 2018-06-15T19:52:24 < dale6998> karlp: you were right about the UART pins...i've moved them back to PA9&10, but I'm still seeing the same thing on the TX line from the DUT: crickets 2018-06-15T19:54:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T19:54:42 < karlp> now that you've fixed two errors, start from the beignning again and recheck. 2018-06-15T19:56:02 < dale6998> ok 2018-06-15T19:59:08 < Laurenceb> karlp: ok I see whats happening now 2018-06-15T19:59:19 < Laurenceb> I hadnt accounted for the processing lag from my gui 2018-06-15T19:59:29 < Laurenceb> SOF matches at all the devices on the hub 2018-06-15T20:01:59 < Laurenceb> woah it works 2018-06-15T20:02:07 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-15T20:02:51 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T20:03:02 < karlp> despite your best efforts 2018-06-15T20:03:04 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/wNGjqbYb 2018-06-15T20:03:07 < Laurenceb> le cancer 2018-06-15T20:09:02 < Laurenceb> successfully reconnects and synchronises devices as they are hot swapped 2018-06-15T20:10:59 < Laurenceb> should probably rewrite it now so its saner but keeps the same logic 2018-06-15T20:11:41 < Steffanx> I like how the comments actually makes the code less readable P 2018-06-15T20:11:42 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-15T20:13:46 < Cracki> not a fan of whitespace either, I see 2018-06-15T20:14:05 < Laurenceb> displays ok on muh monitor 2018-06-15T20:14:37 < Cracki> 190 lines of dense code, this screams for a refactoring ;) 2018-06-15T20:15:36 < Laurenceb> theres prob an algorithm in some comp sci textbook to do this properly 2018-06-15T20:15:52 < Laurenceb> -the resync 2018-06-15T20:16:02 < Cracki> nah, just code monkeying 2018-06-15T20:16:25 < Cracki> cut the method into individual concerns/tasks 2018-06-15T20:16:29 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T20:16:29 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-15T20:16:29 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T20:17:00 < Laurenceb> guess it complicated by the fact failing threads could quit or just stall with no new data 2018-06-15T20:17:10 < Steffanx> Do you like talking to a wall Cracki? 2018-06-15T20:17:19 < Steffanx> That's what you're doing right now :P 2018-06-15T20:17:29 < vampi-the-frog> what are you guys running threads on? 2018-06-15T20:17:29 < Laurenceb> Mexico will pay 2018-06-15T20:17:37 < Cracki> the /b/ is more entertaining than the dong 2018-06-15T20:17:51 < Laurenceb> vampli: this is Qt shit 2018-06-15T20:18:03 < Cracki> do moar objects. 2018-06-15T20:18:12 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-15T20:18:37 < vampi-the-frog> whatchu running Qt on? 2018-06-15T20:18:41 < Cracki> if something can disconnect, but you expect it to appear again soon, a "wrapper" object can handle rediscovery and continue spewing data once it's available. 2018-06-15T20:18:43 < Laurenceb> lunix 2018-06-15T20:18:58 < vampi-the-frog> why do you need to use Qt in the first place? 2018-06-15T20:19:11 < Steffanx> You want him to use wxwidgets? 2018-06-15T20:19:11 < Cracki> gooey 2018-06-15T20:19:12 < Laurenceb> vampi-the-frog: ikr, because wurk 2018-06-15T20:19:22 < Steffanx> Raw GTK? 2018-06-15T20:19:25 < Laurenceb> I would have made a box with F4 and SDIO 2018-06-15T20:19:28 < vampi-the-frog> usually UI stuff can be offloaded on JS web stuff 2018-06-15T20:19:29 < Cracki> yuck gtk 2018-06-15T20:19:36 < Laurenceb> and green and red led for good/bad 2018-06-15T20:19:39 < vampi-the-frog> unless you're using some hardware resource that the browser cannot access 2018-06-15T20:19:42 < Steffanx> hah. Goold troll vampi-the-frog :) 2018-06-15T20:19:45 < Laurenceb> rs485 to sensors 2018-06-15T20:20:06 < Laurenceb> but ... wurk 2018-06-15T20:20:49 < vampi-the-frog> my experience with Qt are slow large executables 2018-06-15T20:20:58 < Steffanx> Yes, JS is much faster. 2018-06-15T20:21:03 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-15T20:21:04 < vampi-the-frog> GTK+ seems slightly faster though they both got loaded over time 2018-06-15T20:21:08 < Steffanx> Laurenceb, it was your choice to go usb right? 2018-06-15T20:21:14 < Cracki> qt, slow? who are you kidding 2018-06-15T20:21:25 < Laurenceb> it just has to shuffle data, like <1% cpu 2018-06-15T20:21:28 < vampi-the-frog> well, with JS you only load what you need, not the whole Qt .so 2018-06-15T20:21:30 < Laurenceb> Steffanx: nope 2018-06-15T20:21:37 < Laurenceb> I was keen on RS485 2018-06-15T20:21:40 < Cracki> with js you load a whole fucking browser 2018-06-15T20:21:49 < Cracki> given, qt comes with a browser too... 2018-06-15T20:21:53 < Steffanx> Then why you failed convincing the others NOT working on the project Laurenceb? 2018-06-15T20:22:06 < vampi-the-frog> you load a browser all the time anyway, besides it's automatically cross platform and network enabled 2018-06-15T20:22:14 < Laurenceb> Steffnax: because they thought it would be less work 2018-06-15T20:22:24 < vampi-the-frog> it works on any desktop OS and if you do it right on any mobile browser 2018-06-15T20:22:32 < Laurenceb> to use muh pc datalogging 2018-06-15T20:22:41 < Cracki> I haven't found a way to have fun while building a fricken connection between browser-side js and whatever backend there is 2018-06-15T20:22:49 < Steffanx> Are you going to say "ionic" next vampi-the-frog? 2018-06-15T20:23:24 < Steffanx> I must say i was kinda surprised to see what that framework can do 2018-06-15T20:23:41 < Cracki> I wouldn't complain if everything (model, view, controller, etc) could feasibly be js (like it can be python) 2018-06-15T20:23:55 < vampi-the-frog> no I hate frameworks 2018-06-15T20:24:03 < Cracki> xmlhttprequest? 2018-06-15T20:24:12 < vampi-the-frog> I would say do your own from scratch, that way you're sure it's fast and small 2018-06-15T20:24:20 < vampi-the-frog> sure, that's a base part of the browser 2018-06-15T20:24:34 < Cracki> why not just use webusb to talk to devices :> 2018-06-15T20:24:39 < Steffanx> jquery is loaded on your website. Yikes. 2018-06-15T20:24:49 < vampi-the-frog> webusb is experimental afaik 2018-06-15T20:24:57 < Steffanx> oh its wp. yay 2018-06-15T20:25:09 < Laurenceb> wew webusb 2018-06-15T20:25:11 < vampi-the-frog> again, if you're accessing OS devices, you should use native code 2018-06-15T20:25:13 < Laurenceb> what could go wrong 2018-06-15T20:25:17 < vampi-the-frog> Steffanx: took an hour to set up so :P 2018-06-15T20:25:24 < Steffanx> "Reverse engineering Midi Quest SQZ files" <= IN c. 2018-06-15T20:25:28 < Steffanx> NO BROWSERING? :d 2018-06-15T20:25:30 < vampi-the-frog> I love C 2018-06-15T20:25:36 < Steffanx> sorry, i'll stop this madness 2018-06-15T20:25:39 < vampi-the-frog> well here is the thing 2018-06-15T20:26:08 < vampi-the-frog> my point was you get a wider deployment range with js 2018-06-15T20:26:24 < vampi-the-frog> whereas a desktop app you'd have to redo for mobile if someone needed to use it there 2018-06-15T20:26:34 < Cracki> "works on my computer" 2018-06-15T20:26:44 < vampi-the-frog> but if it's for workstations, yeah, Qt and whatnot 2018-06-15T20:27:07 < Cracki> web-enabled costs extra, dear customer. 2018-06-15T20:27:13 < Cracki> we only do workstation-grade software. 2018-06-15T20:27:20 < vampi-the-frog> yeah 2018-06-15T20:27:34 < vampi-the-frog> you can use that sort of talk to customers who are in the dark and you can probably get more money 2018-06-15T20:28:08 < vampi-the-frog> I'd like to make the point that as a programmer you want things to be easy for you but also satisfactory 2018-06-15T20:28:10 < vampi-the-frog> that way it's fun 2018-06-15T20:28:30 < vampi-the-frog> and the funnest way, IMO is to write libraries for yourself, and later use them to quickly put together a product 2018-06-15T20:28:41 < vampi-the-frog> cause it will be fairly easy to put the product together 2018-06-15T20:29:18 < vampi-the-frog> that's the fun part, when it all comes together 2018-06-15T20:29:35 < Cracki> bill all the time developing the libraries 2018-06-15T20:29:48 < vampi-the-frog> sure 2018-06-15T20:29:48 < Cracki> every time ;) 2018-06-15T20:29:50 < vampi-the-frog> you can do that 2018-06-15T20:29:56 < Cracki> you have to do that. 2018-06-15T20:29:57 < vampi-the-frog> and it will take you a tenth of the time 2018-06-15T20:30:00 < vampi-the-frog> yeah sure 2018-06-15T20:30:09 < vampi-the-frog> although you can estimate less than the competition and still do it faster 2018-06-15T20:30:36 < Steffanx> Can i at least use typescript? 2018-06-15T20:31:07 < Cracki> same idea: if you get a discount from a supplier because you're such a reliable buyer, you keep the discount for *yourself*. you have a more profitable and stable business. 2018-06-15T20:31:39 < vampi-the-frog> I don't know, I feel typescript is a slippery path 2018-06-15T20:31:42 < Cracki> estimate the same. then say you're better at it. 2018-06-15T20:31:51 < vampi-the-frog> pretty soon you'll be using VS Code and praising how good Microsoft products are 2018-06-15T20:32:45 < Cracki> they did vs code after some open source people did an editor in javascript 2018-06-15T20:32:55 < Cracki> atom, neutron, electron, ... something liek that 2018-06-15T20:33:07 < Cracki> it hogged the cpu just to blink the cursor 2018-06-15T20:38:01 < vampi-the-frog> atom I think 2018-06-15T20:38:13 < vampi-the-frog> basically Sublime got it right 2018-06-15T20:38:28 < vampi-the-frog> Atom tried to be to Sublime what Firefox is to Chrome 2018-06-15T20:38:35 < vampi-the-frog> slower but has lots of extensions 2018-06-15T20:39:01 < Cracki> chrome has too 2018-06-15T20:39:04 < vampi-the-frog> and VS Code was like 2018-06-15T20:39:09 < vampi-the-frog> well we like sublime 2018-06-15T20:39:13 < vampi-the-frog> but we're not able to think out of the box 2018-06-15T20:39:22 < Cracki> that they are not, I agree 2018-06-15T20:39:28 < vampi-the-frog> so why don't we bring sublime more into the box, and tame it 2018-06-15T20:39:32 < vampi-the-frog> at least it's something we can understand 2018-06-15T20:40:00 < vampi-the-frog> well, when I tried it it wasn't working right 2018-06-15T20:40:01 < Cracki> they could have absolutely mopped the floor with sublime if they spread the fancy intellisense all over 2018-06-15T20:40:36 < Cracki> (looking at jetbrains IDEs is still on my todo list) 2018-06-15T20:40:42 < vampi-the-frog> I think products like Visual Studio and VS Code as well, they have a tendency to be condescending 2018-06-15T20:40:54 < vampi-the-frog> I feel like they offend my intelligence by trying to make it too easy 2018-06-15T20:41:07 < vampi-the-frog> but they disregard the fact that they can't cover every edge case for autocomplete and so on 2018-06-15T20:41:53 < karlp> sublime is shit 2018-06-15T20:42:00 < karlp> I dont understand why people like it at all. 2018-06-15T20:42:13 < vampi-the-frog> so my point is that they're creating a culture of 'autocomplete coders' which makes people mediocre 2018-06-15T20:42:26 * karlp laughs 2018-06-15T20:42:39 < vampi-the-frog> that's why I say it's a slippery path 2018-06-15T20:42:43 < Cracki> ah, the "walk to work, driving makes you weak" 2018-06-15T20:42:48 < vampi-the-frog> sure 2018-06-15T20:42:58 < vampi-the-frog> I just like that sublime is fast and has a file browser 2018-06-15T20:43:02 < vampi-the-frog> that's all I use it for really 2018-06-15T20:43:06 * karlp hi5s cracki 2018-06-15T20:43:09 < Cracki> >high schoolers shouldn't use pocket calculators 2018-06-15T20:43:50 < Cracki> in a sense, I agree. 2018-06-15T20:44:08 < Steffanx> netbeans 4 life? 2018-06-15T20:44:09 < Cracki> people should die from diseases. that makes the herd stronger. 2018-06-15T20:44:21 < Laurenceb> oh hi hitler 2018-06-15T20:44:30 < vampi-the-frog> either way, Microsoft always felt to me like they're missing the point 2018-06-15T20:44:40 < vampi-the-frog> I always feel like I'm dealing with a seller, not a developer 2018-06-15T20:45:24 < vampi-the-frog> whenever I use their software, it feels like a product 2018-06-15T20:45:28 < vampi-the-frog> a shitty product usually 2018-06-15T20:45:45 < Steffanx> is lunix from microsoft? 2018-06-15T20:45:52 < vampi-the-frog> whereas other software feels like someone was actually enjoying writing it 2018-06-15T20:45:59 < vampi-the-frog> Steffanx: it is now 2018-06-15T20:46:08 < vampi-the-frog> they like, bought FSF or something 2018-06-15T20:46:10 < Steffanx> explains the shitty ness 2018-06-15T20:47:18 < Cracki> >the lock is invincible to the people who do not have a screw driver. https://twitter.com/LockPickingLwyr/status/1007613178249965569 2018-06-15T20:47:30 < vampi-the-frog> linux felt quite friendly to me until Ubuntu came around 2018-06-15T20:47:35 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkFzSaAx4tI dat album cover 2018-06-15T20:47:38 < Laurenceb> autism 2018-06-15T20:47:52 < vampi-the-frog> Ubuntu feels like they're "pulling a Microsoft" 2018-06-15T20:48:14 < vampi-the-frog> they're spending money on bad coders and designers and the end result is a shitty desktop IMO 2018-06-15T20:48:20 < vampi-the-frog> there was nothing wrong with Gnome 2 2018-06-15T20:48:40 < Steffanx> Cracki, nothing wrong there :P 2018-06-15T20:49:26 < Cracki> I feel like taking a screw driver to the people who "invented" that lock 2018-06-15T20:52:23 < Steffanx> So what are your plans for the weekend vampi-the-frog 2018-06-15T20:52:24 < jpa-> well if you are out breaking into stuff, you are more likely to have lock picks with you than a torx screwdriver :P 2018-06-15T20:53:05 < vampi-the-frog> I'll have to work saturday and not sure about sunday 2018-06-15T20:53:18 < Steffanx> work as in .. work in the local supermarket? 2018-06-15T20:53:55 < vampi-the-frog> no, I'm a computer programmer 2018-06-15T20:54:00 < vampi-the-frog> I program computers 2018-06-15T20:54:13 < Steffanx> but those dont work on saturday or sunday, execpt for in the basement :P 2018-06-15T20:55:19 < vampi-the-frog> I feel like you're trying to be funny but the laughter isn't coming to me 2018-06-15T20:55:25 < vampi-the-frog> so maybe try harder 2018-06-15T20:55:40 < Steffanx> Im not trying. 2018-06-15T20:55:47 < Steffanx> Today is grumpy day. 2018-06-15T20:55:56 < vampi-the-frog> go ahead hten 2018-06-15T20:56:00 < vampi-the-frog> then be grumpy 2018-06-15T20:56:46 < Steffanx> no, then vampi-the-frog will go all mad. Like he did before. 2018-06-15T20:57:01 < Cracki> last time someone called me grumpy, he was the grumpy one :D 2018-06-15T20:57:08 < vampi-the-frog> if you're angry you need to forgive your father 2018-06-15T20:57:13 < vampi-the-frog> you ackin like your mother 2018-06-15T20:57:24 < vampi-the-frog> be a man 2018-06-15T20:58:32 < Steffanx> Only men on irc, so .. 2018-06-15T20:58:53 < Steffanx> Cracki cant have been me, im never grumpy :P 2018-06-15T20:58:54 < vampi-the-frog> only girly men 2018-06-15T20:58:59 < Laurenceb> soy 2018-06-15T20:59:03 < vampi-the-frog> beta soy boys 2018-06-15T20:59:10 < Cracki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv5fqunQ_4I 2018-06-15T21:00:08 < Cracki> yesterday I learned how soy "schnitzels" look like... 2018-06-15T21:00:31 < Cracki> what's that stuff called, the sprayable building foam? 2018-06-15T21:00:33 < Cracki> it felt like that 2018-06-15T21:00:47 < Steffanx> im glad i have no clue what youré talking about. 2018-06-15T21:00:59 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T21:01:06 < Steffanx> Not enough /b/ in my life for that i guess 2018-06-15T21:01:18 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OgU1Wrqegs 2018-06-15T21:01:23 < Cracki> https://www.edeka.de/media/nord/ernaehrung/-responsive-frei-von/edeka-fleischersatz-soja-schnitzel-resp-960x540.jpg 2018-06-15T21:01:43 < Cracki> since they taste like nothing, you're supposed to marinade them 2018-06-15T21:01:55 < Cracki> which is why they're sold dried, soaks it up better 2018-06-15T21:02:10 < Cracki> soy mouth gah 2018-06-15T21:02:41 < Steffanx> Schnitzel you said -_- 2018-06-15T21:02:43 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOochquOIoo 2018-06-15T21:04:37 < vampi-the-frog> you is ackin like a woman 2018-06-15T21:04:59 < Cracki> >VOochquOIoo 2018-06-15T21:08:30 -!- dunnousernamefn [~dunnouser@ool-43523ad8.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T21:09:07 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:24af:8068:eb62:b446] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T21:09:36 < dunnousernamefn> Hey, a bit offtopic, but, on Linux, using STM8CUBEMX, the application works for a little bit but then the CPU usage throttles to 30% on my quad core machine, yet the application still works fine and nothing different seems to be happening 2018-06-15T21:09:49 < dunnousernamefn> I have to close and reopen the project, but then later it does it again 2018-06-15T21:10:17 < jpa-> so you'd like to know how to make it take 100% of cpu? because you're having 70% of cpu waster? 2018-06-15T21:10:35 < Thorn> stm32cubemx had 100% cpu usage on the clock page in mac os, thankfully fixed since 2018-06-15T21:10:51 < dunnousernamefn> no, I'd like it to use the normal 2-3% :P 2018-06-15T21:11:07 < dunnousernamefn> It's probably using an entire core for some reason 2018-06-15T21:11:41 < dunnousernamefn> I never have this problem in STM32CUBEMX, just the STM8 one 2018-06-15T21:12:34 < dunnousernamefn> Thorn, actually, now that I think about it, it may happen when I open the clock config page 2018-06-15T21:12:47 < Thorn> lol 2018-06-15T21:13:22 < dunnousernamefn> yep, thats it 2018-06-15T21:14:22 < dunnousernamefn> oh, and the STM8S's don't really have an RTC clock, so should I not use it to keep time 2018-06-15T21:17:05 < dunnousernamefn> do I dare enter the clock config tab to look at what sources I can use 2018-06-15T21:20:55 < vampi-the-frog> the MX thing is another example of Microsoft-ization if you ask me 2018-06-15T21:21:05 < vampi-the-frog> it's trying to make it easy for you but it fails hard at being software 2018-06-15T21:21:19 < vampi-the-frog> they had a good idea but not the critical faculties to: 2018-06-15T21:21:27 < vampi-the-frog> 1. Hire a good programmer 2018-06-15T21:21:48 < vampi-the-frog> 2. Admit that it sucks and fix it 2018-06-15T21:21:53 < vampi-the-frog> I don't know if it's open source though 2018-06-15T21:28:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-15T21:51:01 < englishman> well this st bluenrg mesh .bin just fails 2018-06-15T21:51:07 < englishman> Could not initialize BlueNRG-Mesh library! 2018-06-15T21:51:14 < englishman> yay closedsores 2018-06-15T21:53:26 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/zELe8ao 2018-06-15T21:54:46 < englishman> ah, old bluetooth stack on the SoC 2018-06-15T21:56:38 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-0D2CbcMI8 2018-06-15T22:02:54 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-15T22:11:17 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-15T22:17:07 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-7-14.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T22:18:51 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-15T22:19:18 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T22:20:25 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T22:22:24 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T22:22:32 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T22:27:44 < englishman> hmm this btle mesh shit is usable 2018-06-15T22:34:08 < zyp> usable shit 2018-06-15T22:38:49 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@c-66-31-1-212.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T22:45:22 < Thorn> how do I use sdram (not ddr) with spartan-6 2018-06-15T22:55:04 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T22:55:40 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-15T22:56:01 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T23:01:53 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-19ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T23:05:30 < aandrew> https://twitter.com/gordlittle/status/1007408722984034304 2018-06-15T23:06:42 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:24af:8068:eb62:b446] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-15T23:07:02 < bitmask> https://i.imgur.com/VQbJMnB.png 2018-06-15T23:07:04 < bitmask> :) 2018-06-15T23:10:05 < BrainDamage> seeing it printed doesn't make it less fucky 2018-06-15T23:10:36 < aandrew> bitmask: haha 2018-06-15T23:13:30 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T23:13:35 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-15T23:37:45 -!- steverrrr_ [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-15T23:37:57 -!- steverrrr [~steve@104.220.177.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-15T23:38:40 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-15T23:41:26 < Laurenceb> ok now I'm confused by qt again 2018-06-15T23:41:27 < Laurenceb> *(quint32*)&(header_.Subchunk2size)=stringlength+12; 2018-06-15T23:41:34 < Laurenceb> thats giving weird data 2018-06-15T23:42:05 < Laurenceb> Subchunk2size is a quint8 array 2018-06-15T23:42:11 < Laurenceb> it looks uninitialised 2018-06-15T23:42:51 < zyp> what the fuck 2018-06-15T23:43:08 < Laurenceb> qt warns me about alignment 2018-06-15T23:44:05 < zyp> why the fuck is your code so fucking roundabout? 2018-06-15T23:44:43 < Laurenceb> it was cloned from stm32 2018-06-15T23:45:25 < Laurenceb> is alignment important on pc ? 2018-06-15T23:46:22 < zyp> what type is Subchunk2size originally? 2018-06-15T23:47:15 < Laurenceb> quint8 Subchunk2size[4]; 2018-06-15T23:47:30 < zyp> wat 2018-06-15T23:47:50 < aandrew> https://i.imgur.com/GPhPr3I.gifv cool. upgrdman is this your next task? 2018-06-15T23:47:55 < Laurenceb> its stm32 codez put through some scripts 2018-06-15T23:47:56 < aandrew> inverted pendulums are so passe now 2018-06-15T23:48:16 < upgrdman> aandrew, heh old, but ya that is nice 2018-06-15T23:48:18 < zyp> why the fuck are you reinterpreting a quint8[4] as a quint32? 2018-06-15T23:48:35 < Laurenceb> hmm I'll just swap it to quint32 then 2018-06-15T23:51:59 < Steffanx> Hah, Laurenceb and brothers are obsoleted:. 2018-06-15T23:52:02 < Steffanx> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1806.04510.pdf 2018-06-15T23:52:03 < Laurenceb> http://pzemtsov.github.io/2016/11/06/bug-story-alignment-on-x86.html 2018-06-15T23:52:57 < Steffanx> Written in python ofcourse 2018-06-15T23:53:25 < Laurenceb> lol at the "I'm not racist" 2018-06-15T23:54:10 < Laurenceb> hmm maybe it was due to the alignment 2018-06-15T23:54:19 < Laurenceb> no more warnings from Qt 2018-06-15T23:54:23 < Laurenceb> seems to work so far... --- Day changed Sat Jun 16 2018 2018-06-16T00:00:52 < Laurenceb> bbl 2018-06-16T00:08:48 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-arsvpfezhwgqfoty] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-16T00:11:36 < karlp> Steffanx: I'm not that hard on netbeans, it's jsut least sucky I've found for c so far. I use pycharm and intellij a lot as well. 2018-06-16T00:15:45 < Steffanx> Jetbrains tools tend to be nice indeed. 2018-06-16T00:19:09 < karlp> can't use clion until they finally accept that not all projects are cmake though 2018-06-16T00:19:16 < karlp> they are coming around though, it seems. 2018-06-16T00:22:51 < BrainDamage> I use sublime, but it needs quite a few plugins to get the same functionality as most IDEs, not everyone wants to get that much effort to set it up 2018-06-16T00:25:19 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-16T00:25:28 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T00:35:46 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@cpe-104-228-210-218.maine.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T00:39:00 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-16T00:39:36 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T00:40:24 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-7-14.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-16T00:41:03 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2018-06-16T01:07:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-19ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-16T01:08:05 < mawk> why can't I feed the PLL with HSI 2018-06-16T01:08:14 < mawk> cubeMX spits out an error 2018-06-16T01:08:20 < mawk> when USB OTG is enabled 2018-06-16T01:13:58 < Thorn> because HSI is not accurate enough for USB in F4 2018-06-16T01:14:12 < mawk> I see 2018-06-16T01:14:21 < Thorn> f4 series was designed before the clock recovery patent expired 2018-06-16T01:14:44 < mawk> but I have a L1 2018-06-16T01:14:46 < Thorn> f0 is more recent and it has usb clock recovery 2018-06-16T01:14:54 < Thorn> that is even older afaik 2018-06-16T01:15:04 < mawk> I see 2018-06-16T01:21:21 < mawk> why does it need accuracy ? isn't it the PLL that needs accuracy ? 2018-06-16T01:21:37 < mawk> with a big multiplier 2018-06-16T01:21:44 < mawk> I guess both need it 2018-06-16T01:28:38 < kakimir> hello nightpump 2018-06-16T01:31:08 < Steffanx> stvn aint here kakimir 2018-06-16T01:31:56 < kakimir> no problems 2018-06-16T01:31:59 < kakimir> even better 2018-06-16T01:37:15 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/16dc6vZ6vEHNlMHCd1XacJrKn3YXiRjwZ/view?usp=sharing 2018-06-16T01:40:20 < kakimir> photo from 10PM 2018-06-16T01:53:50 < kakimir> what happend to stvn? 2018-06-16T02:07:41 < kakimir> https://youtu.be/wE3fmFTtP9g?t=56s 2018-06-16T02:10:13 < kakimir> 2stroke robots 2018-06-16T02:36:02 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 2018-06-16T02:44:56 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T03:00:02 < stvn> who is stvn 2018-06-16T03:01:26 < Steffanx> The Stvn 2018-06-16T03:13:58 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-16T03:31:46 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T03:33:57 < Laurenceb_> muh gui 2018-06-16T03:45:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-16T03:46:57 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/b160de1de8/116907.jpg 2018-06-16T03:48:43 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/b160de1de8/116908.png 2018-06-16T03:55:09 < stvn> muh goy 2018-06-16T03:58:08 < Laurenceb_> boysoy is gayer than soyboy 2018-06-16T03:59:23 < stvn> is pelk alright? do you know? 2018-06-16T04:00:09 < Laurenceb_> til a new word 2018-06-16T04:01:42 < stvn> So there you have it - your very own Craig Charles tape holder! and all you need is some sticky-backed plastic and PVA glue! Try it yourself! 2018-06-16T04:06:29 < Laurenceb_> haha Craig Charles 2018-06-16T04:06:43 < Laurenceb_> went to see him at Robot Wars live when I was a little kid 2018-06-16T04:07:00 < Laurenceb_> and he was an asshole 2018-06-16T04:07:24 < Laurenceb_> encouraged the camera crew to steal food from some kid 2018-06-16T04:07:37 < Laurenceb_> who started crying and the whole crowd was booing him 2018-06-16T04:07:38 < Laurenceb_> epin lulz 2018-06-16T04:09:40 < Laurenceb_> hitting fail levels that shouldnt even be possible 2018-06-16T04:09:42 < Laurenceb_> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44504659 2018-06-16T04:09:59 < Laurenceb_> their fireproofing makes muh gui look pro 2018-06-16T04:11:54 < Laurenceb_> but the lulziest thing was when the school group went on the underground and local wildlife tried to stab our teacher 2018-06-16T04:14:09 < Laurenceb_> school trip level: London 2018-06-16T04:15:18 < Cracki> safari 2018-06-16T04:21:13 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081EE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T04:23:58 < Laurenceb_> literally "Dis is our carreg, u av to pay toll to come in here" 2018-06-16T04:25:34 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-16T04:36:59 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T04:45:22 < Cracki> all the bridges had trolls already so they had to take residence in the subway 2018-06-16T04:46:08 < Cracki> I wonder what pathology underlies "this is my thing now" 2018-06-16T05:22:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T05:26:45 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-16T05:27:06 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-16T05:27:06 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T05:27:08 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-16T05:41:33 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-16T05:44:59 < dongs> fuck 2018-06-16T05:45:06 < dongs> esxi doesnt see the fucking SSD either 2018-06-16T05:45:06 < dongs> damn 2018-06-16T06:01:36 < R0b0t1`> Why are you using Windows, dongs? 2018-06-16T06:01:38 < R0b0t1`> It's a waste of time 2018-06-16T06:03:26 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-16T06:03:55 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T06:04:33 < englishman> says the guy with the totally reliable lunix-based irc connection 2018-06-16T06:05:35 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-16T06:05:57 < dongs> Lol 2018-06-16T06:07:22 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T06:10:24 < R0b0t1`> englishman: This is my Windows computer, actually 2018-06-16T06:10:33 < R0b0t1> This is my Linux desktop 2018-06-16T06:10:45 < R0b0t1> 22:10:45 up 31 days, 3:09, 2 users, load average: 0.21, 0.20, 0.14 2018-06-16T06:11:21 < R0b0t1> Record 199 days 2018-06-16T06:11:27 < stvn> i want to pump too 2018-06-16T06:13:50 < dongs> 12:13:45 up 1367 days, 22:31, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 2018-06-16T06:13:52 < dongs> this is mine 2018-06-16T06:13:56 < dongs> its under the bed 2018-06-16T06:13:58 < dongs> doing literally nothing 2018-06-16T06:14:06 < dongs> i.e. typical lunix usage 2018-06-16T06:18:06 < stvn> very good 2018-06-16T06:20:49 < stvn> System Boot Time: 16/06/2018, 10:41:10 AM 2018-06-16T06:20:57 < dongs> https://www.ivobeerens.nl/2015/10/07/vmware-esxi6-password-policy/ ?????? 2018-06-16T06:21:00 < dongs> fucking why 2018-06-16T06:21:01 < dongs> what teh fuck 2018-06-16T06:22:10 < stvn> things like this happen when people run linux under their bed 2018-06-16T06:27:53 < R0b0t1`> That reads like the Intel ME password policy 2018-06-16T06:28:21 < R0b0t1`> At least there's no upper limit 2018-06-16T06:28:24 < R0b0t1`> Intel ME has an upper limit 2018-06-16T06:47:34 < stvn> whut is intel me 2018-06-16T06:58:30 -!- nnn7 [~nn7@161.97.236.131] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T07:02:10 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T07:02:22 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T07:05:15 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-16T07:05:19 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-16T07:06:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-16T07:09:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T07:44:03 -!- nnn7 [~nn7@161.97.236.131] has quit [Quit: nnn7] 2018-06-16T07:58:18 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T08:07:39 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T08:08:44 < dongs> sup 2018-06-16T08:37:45 -!- Kerr-A [Kerr-A@172.79.106.102] has quit [Quit: Man who run behind car get exhausted] 2018-06-16T08:57:56 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-16T09:13:29 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T09:13:59 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-7-14.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T09:17:07 < jadew> I'm looking for a nice LED, maybe half a watt (not sure I need that much) 2018-06-16T09:17:31 < jadew> I want to light my printing surface 2018-06-16T09:17:48 < jadew> is there a go-to brand? 2018-06-16T09:20:08 < jadew> something like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-LED-T5-286-WEDGE-SMD-CANBUS-ERROR-FREE-GREEN-BULBS-DASHBOARD-CLOCKS-12V-0-5W/152521789331 2018-06-16T09:22:30 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@cpe-104-228-210-218.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-16T09:24:18 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T09:25:40 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-16T09:28:49 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-16T09:31:07 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T09:47:46 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T09:49:17 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T10:17:33 < jadew> regarding paypal, to every email and internal message I've sent to them associated with my case, I received a reply from a different person 2018-06-16T10:18:00 < jadew> yesterday, they said they got everything and advanced my case to review 2018-06-16T10:18:12 < jadew> this morning I got another email saying I have to submit proof of address 2018-06-16T10:19:11 < jadew> even tho I sbumited everything already 2018-06-16T10:19:33 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-16T10:20:51 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T10:32:10 < stvn> plutonium mate 2018-06-16T10:33:27 < kakimir> stvn not ded 2018-06-16T10:34:02 < kakimir> just drunk 2018-06-16T11:02:56 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T11:12:20 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-16T11:39:48 < stvn> hi kakimir 2018-06-16T11:49:53 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T11:51:26 < stvn> i thought you were dead kakimir 2018-06-16T12:00:21 < Steffanx> Maybe we all are. 2018-06-16T12:02:40 -!- ekaOlogik [~quassel@193.174.69.135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T12:02:44 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800199d00c95086ef8e131a22.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T12:03:30 < stvn> can never be too sure we're actually alive or human 2018-06-16T12:03:31 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/iHdxSGs.jpg 2018-06-16T12:28:40 < Steffanx> So how bad is the world cup madness in the russia PaulFertser ? 2018-06-16T12:29:35 < Steffanx> I see aussieland has to play in 30 min. Are you ready stvn? 2018-06-16T12:31:29 < stvn> I forgot my boots 2018-06-16T12:35:35 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: no idea, I'm riding a motorbike and not through the city center, so I do not see anything. 2018-06-16T12:36:29 < PaulFertser> My wife says there's plenty of foreigners on public transport though. But not too mad. 2018-06-16T12:38:34 < englishman> more importantly, how is the poutine 2018-06-16T12:42:00 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw0h1WF95nk 2018-06-16T12:43:29 < englishman> suggested links: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PowGFq6X3Co 2018-06-16T12:45:18 < stvn> lol i went to that a minute ago 2018-06-16T12:45:21 < stvn> it keeps coming up 2018-06-16T12:45:28 < stvn> welcome englishman 2018-06-16T12:51:31 < PaulFertser> englishman: I hope he is not well but you never know 2018-06-16T12:52:16 < englishman> not the spicy one, the saucy one 2018-06-16T13:07:26 < stvn> let 2018-06-16T13:07:35 < stvn> let's try one 2018-06-16T13:11:17 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T13:12:35 < stvn> keiling 2018-06-16T13:12:37 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T13:25:40 < Steffanx> What are you keiling? 2018-06-16T13:27:55 < stvn> some type of bomb 2018-06-16T13:27:58 < stvn> nah jk 2018-06-16T13:30:12 < stvn> I'm doing nothing at this hour 2018-06-16T13:34:07 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800199d00c95086ef8e131a22.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T13:36:16 < stvn> I see it is Saturday in the dutch kingdom 2018-06-16T13:39:01 < Steffanx> Yessir 2018-06-16T13:44:37 < Steffanx> But also no, stvn 2018-06-16T13:44:49 < Steffanx> The dutch kingdom is in many timezones 2018-06-16T13:45:05 < stvn> damnation 2018-06-16T13:45:27 < Steffanx> Actually only 2 i think 2018-06-16T13:46:18 < Steffanx> Oh it there saturday too 2018-06-16T13:48:09 < stvn> stoner saturday 2018-06-16T13:48:09 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T13:50:11 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T13:50:47 < stvn> DonaldPump 2018-06-16T13:51:53 < Steffanx> 0-0 stvn. 2018-06-16T13:52:03 < stvn> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/detail/32884776111.html 2018-06-16T13:52:08 < stvn> get a load of that 2018-06-16T13:52:12 < Steffanx> 2nd half starts soon 2018-06-16T13:52:18 < stvn> 2nd half of? 2018-06-16T13:53:06 < Steffanx> Soccer 2018-06-16T13:53:15 < Steffanx> Frenchies vs aussies 2018-06-16T13:54:06 < Steffanx> Best part of the aussie team are the dutch coaches. Aussies cant do that themselves 2018-06-16T13:55:36 < stvn> of course 2018-06-16T13:55:45 < stvn> without stroopwafels we couldn't do anything 2018-06-16T14:01:49 < stvn> you see i don't know shit about soccer 2018-06-16T14:02:14 < stvn> and before you ask, the same goes for 'australian football' 2018-06-16T14:02:22 < BrainDamage> try being italian and not give a shit about soccer during the world cup 2018-06-16T14:03:00 < BrainDamage> the only time I did was when we won 10 years ago, and it wasn't because I care but because the whole country turned into a giant party 2018-06-16T14:10:49 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3TCxKaG_wk haha 2018-06-16T14:11:48 < Steffanx> One thing you can be sure of, that wont be happening this year BrainDamage :P 2018-06-16T14:12:01 < Steffanx> We could do a loser party together. 2018-06-16T14:14:42 < stvn> saved 2018-06-16T14:14:47 < stvn> lol 2018-06-16T14:15:30 < Steffanx> For a guy with the name "X600 4K" that video is pretty low res :( 2018-06-16T14:18:00 < stvn> weird 2018-06-16T14:18:06 < stvn> unlisted too.... 2018-06-16T14:20:03 < Steffanx> must be efnetware 2018-06-16T14:20:14 < stvn> perhaps 2018-06-16T14:20:19 < dongs> pumperware 2018-06-16T14:20:32 < BrainDamage> as long as it doesn't turn into an eurovision song contest 2018-06-16T14:22:24 < stvn> this old rattler 2018-06-16T14:28:23 < Steffanx> idk, can you sing when youré drunk BrainDamage? 2018-06-16T14:31:15 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T14:31:15 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T14:35:42 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-b8ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-16T14:38:53 < stvn> let's plug him in 2018-06-16T14:41:38 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T14:42:44 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/b160de1de8/116941.jpeg 2018-06-16T14:43:44 < stvn> should I have a taste? 2018-06-16T14:45:08 -!- dow [55b39076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.179.144.118] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T14:45:25 < dow> Hi, does anyone know a way to monitor how many interrupts are nested? 2018-06-16T14:45:46 < Laurenceb_> look at the stack 2018-06-16T14:45:54 < Laurenceb_> Graphical Loser Interface 2018-06-16T14:46:59 < dow> I'm doing some USB device using the STM32F0 and if I don't add some sleep between the calls on the host the device the device will become unresponsive 2018-06-16T14:47:23 < dow> I wonder what the reason is .. too many / lost interrupts I guess 2018-06-16T14:49:52 < Laurenceb_> the absolute state of art students https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6C09/production/_102075672_mackfire4.jpg 2018-06-16T14:59:29 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-11-16.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T15:17:56 < Laurenceb_> https://mobile.twitter.com/getongab/status/1007698598950293505 2018-06-16T15:24:18 < stvn> okay 2018-06-16T15:24:24 < stvn> i have no idea wtf that is about 2018-06-16T15:25:26 < stvn> some type of blaxter translation 2018-06-16T15:26:50 < Steffanx> some university/school burned down. 2018-06-16T15:26:54 < Steffanx> Nothing less, nothing more. 2018-06-16T15:26:56 < Steffanx> Boring. 2018-06-16T15:28:15 < Laurenceb_> Jordan Peterson set it on fire 2018-06-16T15:30:15 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/b160de1de8/116979.jpg 2018-06-16T15:30:15 < dongs> Laurenceb_: any stm32 news 2018-06-16T15:30:25 < Laurenceb_> wats a stm32 2018-06-16T15:31:06 < Steffanx> *an 2018-06-16T15:33:34 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-11-16.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-16T15:33:45 < Steffanx> Any stm32 news in jappyland, dongs? 2018-06-16T15:35:16 < stvn> There are stm32 in australia 2018-06-16T15:35:18 < dongs> not much 2018-06-16T15:35:23 < dongs> innovating without a pause 2018-06-16T15:35:40 < dongs> i was actually busy fixing my esxi and upgrading software and hardware 2018-06-16T15:35:51 < dow> seems like that university is a university of art 2018-06-16T15:36:07 < dow> I would say job well done ... that's art .. set the house on fire and take a picture 2018-06-16T15:36:35 < stvn> yes 2018-06-16T15:36:39 < stvn> burn it down 2018-06-16T15:36:50 < dow> some people call it art 2018-06-16T15:39:21 < Steffanx> Let's set dow on fire and call it art. 2018-06-16T15:40:11 < Steffanx> Are you in, dow? 2018-06-16T15:41:29 < PaulFertser> That would be the first ##stm32 auto-da-fé . In Keil we trust. 2018-06-16T15:43:32 < Steffanx> Its not faith, its ART, PaulFertser. 2018-06-16T15:44:58 < Steffanx> Are you ready karlp? 2018-06-16T15:46:37 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T15:48:08 < BrainDamage> for the inquisition? 2018-06-16T15:49:43 < Steffanx> No, for the thing your and my country is not invited :P 2018-06-16T15:52:47 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800199d00d9ad0a079e2717f8.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T15:56:27 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-16T16:05:26 < jadew> is art school pointless? 2018-06-16T16:05:33 < jadew> what do you learn there? 2018-06-16T16:06:03 < jadew> do you need guidance, if you already have the tallent? 2018-06-16T16:08:05 < jadew> anyway, 3d printing is awesome, fixed a window with small print 2018-06-16T16:08:08 < Steffanx> Ofcourse. 2018-06-16T16:08:43 < jadew> Steffanx, you mean you need guidance or that it's pointless? 2018-06-16T16:08:52 < Steffanx> The guidance thing. 2018-06-16T16:09:18 < BrainDamage> talent doesn't teach you the tecniques nor gives you quality feedback 2018-06-16T16:09:23 < jadew> I wouldn't want someone to cramp my style 2018-06-16T16:09:42 < BrainDamage> I'll be waiting for your masterpiece 2018-06-16T16:10:27 < sync> the problem is even that a lot of people go to art school their art still is shit 2018-06-16T16:10:34 < sync> but that is very subjective tbh 2018-06-16T16:10:53 < Steffanx> VERY, yes :P 2018-06-16T16:11:19 < jadew> sync, some people like eating shit 2018-06-16T16:11:21 < jadew> that doesn't change the fact that they're eating shit 2018-06-16T16:12:16 < Steffanx> Stiill the best piece of art imho: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pindakaasvloer :D 2018-06-16T16:13:21 < jadew> yeah, they no longer make the difference between "what if" and "art" 2018-06-16T16:14:15 < sync> https://www.thomasgerhards.de/bild/fingerprint1/fingerprint2_375.jpg 2018-06-16T16:14:17 < sync> stuff like that 2018-06-16T16:14:39 < jadew> if you can say "what if" when you're looking at art and the answer is "it's stupid", then it's not art 2018-06-16T16:14:44 < Steffanx> hehe yes, awesome. 2018-06-16T16:14:50 < sync> "The photo shows the fingerprints that can happen when you hang the picture" 2018-06-16T16:15:00 < sync> which is the artwork™ 2018-06-16T16:15:35 < jadew> I think the best art is happening in companies these days 2018-06-16T16:15:51 < jadew> web designers and product designers 2018-06-16T16:16:23 < jadew> everything good and original has already been done 2018-06-16T16:16:33 < Steffanx> perhaps 2018-06-16T16:16:34 < jadew> oh, and in mobies 2018-06-16T16:16:38 < jadew> movies 2018-06-16T16:16:46 < jadew> and video clips 2018-06-16T16:17:26 < stvn> gayniggers episode 2 2018-06-16T16:17:55 < stvn> black magic 2018-06-16T16:18:08 < Steffanx> You're waaay to digitally orientated jadew 2018-06-16T16:19:01 < jadew> Steffanx, I'm talking about doing something that hasn't been done before 2018-06-16T16:19:28 < jadew> I don't think any painter can shock anyone anymore 2018-06-16T16:19:50 < dongs> hmm, niggers 2018-06-16T16:20:05 < Steffanx> Not all art is made to shock. 2018-06-16T16:20:09 < jadew> those images out of the google brain were something new, but nothing else comes to mind 2018-06-16T16:20:14 < jadew> and those were made by a machine 2018-06-16T16:20:30 < jadew> Steffanx, not in the sense of being shocked, but in the sense of "ok, this is great!" 2018-06-16T16:20:31 < Steffanx> And is something ever new? 2018-06-16T16:20:43 < jadew> that shit the google bot did was 2018-06-16T16:20:54 < jadew> , was 2018-06-16T16:21:23 < Steffanx> no clue what you're talking about. but im for 99.9% sure it just based it on existing stuff 2018-06-16T16:22:01 < Steffanx> as in: pump shit into a neural network, get shit out. 2018-06-16T16:22:07 < jadew> http://www.businessinsider.com/these-trippy-images-show-how-googles-ai-sees-the-world-2015-6 2018-06-16T16:22:52 < dongs> nice 2018-06-16T16:22:55 < dongs> my shitcopter is in fukuoka 2018-06-16T16:23:12 < dongs> so it'll be here monday 2018-06-16T16:23:25 < jadew> when I first saw those, I didn't know they were generated by AI and thought exactly that "ok, this is something new" 2018-06-16T16:23:46 < dongs> jadew: do you often fill your head with garbage 2018-06-16T16:23:53 < dongs> just wondering 2018-06-16T16:24:07 < jadew> what's garbage about those pictures? 2018-06-16T16:25:11 < Steffanx> its funny, but.. new? I see dogs and some knight :P 2018-06-16T16:25:29 < jadew> heh, yeah, it's weird that there are so many dogs 2018-06-16T16:25:33 < Steffanx> and i see: http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/uprising-artists/images/8738911/title/screamer-photo 2018-06-16T16:25:39 < Steffanx> jsut weird shit :P 2018-06-16T16:26:44 < jadew> again, when I first saw that I thought a human drew them 2018-06-16T16:27:21 < jadew> and if you analyze them as if that was the case, they're just mind blowing 2018-06-16T16:27:45 < jadew> seriously, wtf is this: https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/558d70bf2acae72c008b4f93-1136-757.jpg 2018-06-16T16:27:46 < jadew> ? 2018-06-16T16:27:54 < jadew> it looks like so many things at once 2018-06-16T16:28:50 < Steffanx> i guess i need more drugs to fully appreciate it. 2018-06-16T16:29:18 < stvn> what are you on right now? 2018-06-16T16:29:26 < jadew> lol 2018-06-16T16:29:57 < dongs> jadew: just looks like random garbage some toddler shitted up in photoshop 2018-06-16T16:30:03 < dongs> why are you so fixated over this shit 2018-06-16T16:30:16 < dongs> it looks fucking boring 2018-06-16T16:30:29 < jadew> dongs, you probably see it like that because you know it's generated by an AI 2018-06-16T16:30:36 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghQ5eKGcyE found zyp's youtube channel 2018-06-16T16:30:58 < jadew> but when you're looking at a normal painting, you usually try to grasp the meaning/message that the author had in mind 2018-06-16T16:31:09 < dongs> no 2018-06-16T16:31:38 < jadew> when you look at that thing and you think what that meaning could be, it seems much deeper than it probably is 2018-06-16T16:31:49 < jadew> but I think the result is still awesome 2018-06-16T16:32:04 < dongs> i wish i had enough time to worry about shit ilke that 2018-06-16T16:32:06 < dongs> k sleeptime 2018-06-16T16:32:10 < jadew> night 2018-06-16T16:32:45 < BrainDamage> >https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/558d70bf2acae72c008b4f93-1136-757.jpg < this looks like the internal state data of a neural network 2018-06-16T16:33:34 < Steffanx> isnt that what it is? According to the article? 2018-06-16T16:33:47 < BrainDamage> I haven't read the article 2018-06-16T16:33:56 < jadew> that's what it is 2018-06-16T16:34:00 -!- ivanshmakov [~user@tunnel35660-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T16:34:15 < jadew> basically the way the AI understands an image 2018-06-16T16:34:35 < BrainDamage> not the image but a series of images 2018-06-16T16:34:58 < BrainDamage> it's the pattern it builds to recognize things 2018-06-16T16:35:14 < BrainDamage> it's the AIs equivalent of an idea, a concept 2018-06-16T16:38:14 < Lux> looks more like pretty images for journalists 2018-06-16T16:38:21 < Lux> than anything useful 2018-06-16T16:39:26 < Steffanx> lol, ART => useful, Lux.... 2018-06-16T16:39:37 < Lux> lol 2018-06-16T16:42:07 < Lux> i mean like the actual data stored in the neural net, iirc usually it's allready reduced quite a bit after 1 or 2 layers 2018-06-16T16:42:21 < Lux> but there are quite a few pretty cool videos on that stuff 2018-06-16T16:42:29 < Lux> especially explaining cnns 2018-06-16T16:44:37 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T16:45:55 -!- ekaOlogik [~quassel@193.174.69.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-16T16:50:15 -!- ekaOlogik [~quassel@193.174.69.135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T16:52:31 < Laurenceb_> its funny cuz my stepdad went to art school 2018-06-16T16:52:32 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T16:52:38 < Laurenceb_> >inb4 cuck memes 2018-06-16T16:53:13 < Laurenceb_> wife's son 2018-06-16T16:54:37 < Laurenceb_> https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.520639218.4456/flat,800x800,070,f.jpg 2018-06-16T16:54:37 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-16T16:54:57 < Steffanx> Some people do something with physics and end up failing doing UIs. What did you try to say Laurenceb_? 2018-06-16T16:55:04 < Steffanx> *did something with 2018-06-16T16:55:16 < Laurenceb_> ikr 2018-06-16T17:00:06 < stvn> 0 2018-06-16T17:02:19 < Steffanx> 1 2018-06-16T17:04:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T17:15:20 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800199d00d9ad0a079e2717f8.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-16T17:41:22 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T17:47:00 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T17:51:34 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117008.jpg 2018-06-16T17:51:54 < Laurenceb_> meanwhile on youtube 2018-06-16T17:52:36 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117009.png 2018-06-16T17:59:39 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117010.png 2018-06-16T18:08:58 < Cracki> >not in shops (doesn't fit on shelves) 2018-06-16T18:10:18 < Laurenceb_> ass2ass.mp4 2018-06-16T18:12:40 < Cracki> thanks. now I realize I've been abbreviating a street address as "A... 2a" 2018-06-16T18:15:12 < Laurenceb_> o you guys think lauren southern appreciates my £250 monthly patreon donation? 2018-06-16T18:16:22 < Cracki> https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/494614736550776832/sn2rfJxO_400x400.jpeg 2018-06-16T18:16:33 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-16T18:16:40 < mawk> lol 2018-06-16T18:16:43 < Laurenceb_> I'm a gunna get laid real soon, I can sense it 2018-06-16T18:16:58 < Laurenceb_> just need to up the patreon bux a bit 2018-06-16T18:17:53 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-16T18:19:07 < Cracki> wave 250 around on the subway. the local wildlife will be happy to do some penetrating with you 2018-06-16T18:19:39 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-16T18:19:44 < Steffanx> happy? 2018-06-16T18:19:45 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T18:19:56 < Cracki> let's say eager 2018-06-16T18:20:32 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T18:24:16 < Laurenceb_> back to muh gui 2018-06-16T18:24:26 < Laurenceb_> anyone here used textvalidator thingy in qt? 2018-06-16T18:29:31 < Laurenceb_> this shit is pozzing my neghole 2018-06-16T18:33:16 < Cracki> what format? int? float/double? regex? custom? 2018-06-16T18:57:27 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800199d00d9ad0a079e2717f8.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T19:04:23 -!- ekaOlogik [~quassel@193.174.69.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T19:07:16 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T19:25:54 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-16T19:27:06 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:1907:51e6:1c76:c8e3] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T19:28:44 < Laurenceb_> just the general idea 2018-06-16T19:28:54 < Laurenceb_> ok found an example here http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtwidgets-widgets-lineedits-window-cpp.html 2018-06-16T19:30:43 < mawk> can I do usb stuff with a STM32L152RE ? 2018-06-16T19:30:47 < Laurenceb_> https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1007973314537689088 2018-06-16T19:31:03 < mawk> cubeMX offers me some usb configuration facilities, that spawned two pins USB DP and USB DM 2018-06-16T19:31:19 < jpa-> mawk: no, they just put USB there for the lulz 2018-06-16T19:31:27 < jpa-> not for stuff 2018-06-16T19:31:30 < mawk> well knowing how cubemx is broken in some aspects 2018-06-16T19:31:42 < mawk> it could allow me to enable usb without usb being feasible 2018-06-16T19:31:54 < mawk> for instance the makefiles it generates are consistently broken 2018-06-16T19:31:56 < jpa-> um, you know, look at the datasheets and refman? 2018-06-16T19:32:07 < mawk> it's lenghty 2018-06-16T19:32:16 < mawk> but I'm already doing it 2018-06-16T19:32:59 < Laurenceb_> last time I check Cube usb was kind of unfinished 2018-06-16T19:33:32 < Laurenceb_> like they gave up and called it a day at 90% complete 2018-06-16T19:33:53 < mawk> lol 2018-06-16T19:34:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-16T19:37:30 < Steffanx> Was that 3 years ago Laurenceb_? 2018-06-16T19:38:01 < Steffanx> lol jpa-, when you unlocked the sarcasm perk? 2018-06-16T19:38:27 < Laurenceb_> Seffanx: a few months ago 2018-06-16T19:38:46 < Laurenceb_> I mean it worked but docs implied it was easy to make it work with just the gui to get the codez 2018-06-16T19:39:09 < Laurenceb_> but it needed some undocumented faffing and they never bothered to finished the codez autogenerator 2018-06-16T19:49:21 < Laurenceb_> https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45824.40 2018-06-16T19:49:21 < upgrdman> found rob235 https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/8rjh8o/you_wanna_go_high_okay_so_fasten_your_seatbelts/ 2018-06-16T19:49:25 < Laurenceb_> >11 threads 2018-06-16T20:14:20 < Laurenceb_> A Microsoft employee claimed publicly that 'all of Office 365' was being 'completely rewritten' in JavaScript, 2018-06-16T20:14:24 < Laurenceb_> I'm so confused 2018-06-16T20:14:28 < Laurenceb_> I thought it already was 2018-06-16T20:24:04 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-16T20:24:26 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T20:33:54 < Laurenceb_> woah https://www.unzcloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Norwegian-family-flynn-effects.png 2018-06-16T20:34:04 * Laurenceb_ is unconvinced 2018-06-16T20:34:19 < Laurenceb_> normalized to 1975 with iterative processing, peaks in 1975 2018-06-16T20:34:29 < Laurenceb_> coincidence? I think not 2018-06-16T20:40:13 < Laurenceb_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Norway#/media/File:Oil_production_Norwegian_North_Sea.PNG 2018-06-16T20:41:51 < Laurenceb_> http://leahvidt.dk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/thinking-face.png 2018-06-16T20:42:34 < Laurenceb_> >pre 1975, first son gets more attention as "head of family", causing biassed upwards graph 2018-06-16T20:43:05 < Laurenceb_> >post 1975, more stable economy, effect disappears 2018-06-16T20:47:14 < Thorn> I need a 128x64 dickbutt 2018-06-16T20:50:37 < Laurenceb_> https://sci-hub.tw/https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.1718793115 2018-06-16T20:50:44 < Laurenceb_> lul its statistics wank 2018-06-16T20:51:02 < Laurenceb_> figure C is basically junk - "we tried stuff until it worked epically well" 2018-06-16T20:51:41 < Laurenceb_> figure B might be valid but vulnerable to social biassing 2018-06-16T21:05:32 < Cracki> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfyU2zGVQAAPlEk.jpg:orig 2018-06-16T21:07:14 < Laurenceb_> arg wtf 2018-06-16T21:07:27 < Laurenceb_> I cant understand this paper, they need to publish sores 2018-06-16T21:07:47 < Laurenceb_> looks like they put sibling preference as a model variable in A and B 2018-06-16T21:07:54 < Steffanx> Stop leelooing Cracki. 2018-06-16T21:08:07 < Cracki> what does that mean 2018-06-16T21:08:37 < Steffanx> Leeloo made screenshots of her code instead of pastebin. You post screenshots of ( i guess ) articles available on the web. 2018-06-16T21:08:45 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-16T21:09:11 < BrainDamage> Oh man, I forgot that terrible habit 2018-06-16T21:09:26 < Steffanx> hah 2018-06-16T21:10:06 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:1907:51e6:1c76:c8e3] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-16T21:10:59 < Steffanx> "need" 2018-06-16T21:11:46 < BrainDamage> why not a mk19 2018-06-16T21:12:00 < BrainDamage> then you can shoot a monthly wage in a few seconds 2018-06-16T21:12:11 < Cracki> ic 2018-06-16T21:12:26 < Laurenceb_> I'm so confused 2018-06-16T21:12:34 < Laurenceb_> what does "parities" mean 2018-06-16T21:12:45 < Laurenceb_> oh I think it means children lolz 2018-06-16T21:12:47 < Steffanx> Such things only costs 7-8k what is the issue R2COM? 2018-06-16T21:12:52 < Laurenceb_> freaking Norwegians 2018-06-16T21:13:04 < Laurenceb_> "give birth to a new parity" 2018-06-16T21:13:30 < Laurenceb_> and no sores in their paper 2018-06-16T21:14:39 < zyp> Laurenceb_, what'cha working on? proving I have low IQ? 2018-06-16T21:14:48 < Laurenceb_> yes 2018-06-16T21:14:55 < BrainDamage> damn, this channel needs a quote grabbing bot 2018-06-16T21:14:59 < Laurenceb_> zyp: trying to work out if anything in that paper is valid 2018-06-16T21:15:05 < zyp> haha 2018-06-16T21:15:06 < zyp> why? 2018-06-16T21:15:12 < Laurenceb_> cuz its interesting 2018-06-16T21:15:28 < BrainDamage> autism 2018-06-16T21:15:30 < Laurenceb_> also exercise in stats 2018-06-16T21:15:48 < Laurenceb_> but I think its basically impossible to say without the source code 2018-06-16T21:17:03 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T21:17:03 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-16T21:17:05 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-16T21:21:42 < Cracki> the roman-saluting-pug hipster joined UKIP, made a video where he receives "shekels" 2018-06-16T21:24:05 < Laurenceb_> wut? 2018-06-16T21:24:08 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-16T21:24:18 < Laurenceb_> oh you mean count dankula? 2018-06-16T21:24:27 < Laurenceb_> I dont get this paper reeee 2018-06-16T21:24:39 < Laurenceb_> >too disgenic to understand disgenics paper 2018-06-16T21:28:16 < zyp> eugenics 2018-06-16T21:28:40 < Laurenceb_> ok I think figure C is basically junk 2018-06-16T21:28:57 < Laurenceb_> using their magic codez 2018-06-16T21:29:13 < Laurenceb_> B is just filtering to 2 brothers 2018-06-16T21:35:41 < Laurenceb_> so green line deviating to bottom is proof that Hitler was right 2018-06-16T21:36:43 < BrainDamage> I want a study of IQ vs meme exposure 2018-06-16T21:37:15 < Laurenceb_> and C is (((correction.m))) 2018-06-16T21:48:47 < Steffanx> Did anyone except Dr. Bla open the document? :D 2018-06-16T21:52:20 < Cracki> I did 2018-06-16T21:52:40 < Cracki> but cba to read that stuff 2018-06-16T21:59:29 < Cracki> hah elon talks about socialism. butthurt ensues. 2018-06-16T22:01:49 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-16T22:06:41 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-16T22:12:08 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-16T22:20:15 < branjb> dongs here's some more cancer for you: it’s self balancing… so we need tariffs? don’t misunderstand me, I am all for promoting independence, but instead of taxing the consumer to benefit a select sector’s _sales/throughput_ the levied tariffs should be used award prizes for open source improvements to open source factories 2018-06-16T22:20:53 -!- dunnousernamefn [~dunnouser@ool-43523ad8.dyn.optonline.net] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2018-06-16T22:45:04 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-16T22:58:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d3e3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T23:07:30 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-16T23:14:41 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b800199d00d9ad0a079e2717f8.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-16T23:16:33 < invzim> cool beans - if (CoreDebug->DHCSR & CoreDebug_DHCSR_C_DEBUGEN_Msk) straight to hardfault 2018-06-16T23:23:03 < zyp> invzim, hmm? 2018-06-16T23:27:24 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-7-14.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-16T23:29:31 < qyx> is that bad? 2018-06-16T23:30:47 < invzim> zyp: bootloader protection, if cpu is in debug mode/debugger connected - hardfault 2018-06-16T23:31:18 < zyp> um 2018-06-16T23:31:39 < zyp> if bootloader is connected, just set a breakpoint before you trap and skip over it 2018-06-16T23:32:23 < invzim> Maybe I'm unclear - I want to make it hard to reverse, so I check if debug is enabled and hardfault if it is 2018-06-16T23:32:27 < Steffanx> Sounds like invzim wants to do this on purprose, but im not sure. 2018-06-16T23:32:30 < Steffanx> oh, there you go. 2018-06-16T23:32:37 < zyp> yeah, duh 2018-06-16T23:32:41 < zyp> it's just super worthless 2018-06-16T23:33:12 < invzim> first line of protection :) 2018-06-16T23:33:15 < Steffanx> Isnt just the right protection all you need? 2018-06-16T23:33:24 < Steffanx> Sure you can remove that but .. why would you go futher than that? 2018-06-16T23:33:33 < zyp> if debugger is attached, it'd just trap the default, backtrace will show it hardfaulting in your trap which looks super obvious 2018-06-16T23:33:34 < Steffanx> if someone wants to go that way you're lost anyway 2018-06-16T23:33:54 < zyp> then just set a breakpoint before, reset, run to breakpoint, skip over the trap, done 2018-06-16T23:34:02 < zyp> I've broken harder tricks than that before 2018-06-16T23:34:41 < zyp> just set ROP 2018-06-16T23:34:42 < invzim> yeyeye, I thought it was pretty cool 2018-06-16T23:35:01 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-16T23:35:12 < zyp> if you enable ROP, it'll kill flash interface as soon as the debugger is connected, which also usually creates a hardfault :p 2018-06-16T23:35:37 < Steffanx> invzim, just short out the swd pins, or remove them :P 2018-06-16T23:35:43 < Steffanx> Die hard protection. 2018-06-16T23:35:47 < zyp> ROP level 2 disables SWD 2018-06-16T23:36:28 < invzim> I sign the bootloader area with ECDSA, and include the UID in it and will also use part of the to decrypt the aes-key main firmwares are encrypted with 2018-06-16T23:36:57 < Steffanx> Is your upscaler THAT special? 2018-06-16T23:36:58 < zyp> sounds like a PITA 2018-06-16T23:37:04 < Steffanx> ( assuming this is all for the upscaler thingy ) 2018-06-16T23:37:19 < invzim> Steffanx: it's actually for a super simple device, but will be used for a few projects :) 2018-06-16T23:37:26 < zyp> I prefer just throwing out my firmware as open source so people can make their own modifications, less maintenance hassle for me :p 2018-06-16T23:37:32 < qyx> invzim: and where you public key resides 2018-06-16T23:37:35 < qyx> *your 2018-06-16T23:37:44 < invzim> it will be both in flash and OTP memory 2018-06-16T23:38:09 < qyx> uhm, and the code checking it 2018-06-16T23:38:26 < invzim> will fail if the unique ID is different 2018-06-16T23:39:14 < zyp> so you're gonna ship individually encrypted firmware binaries to each customer? 2018-06-16T23:39:20 < invzim> no 2018-06-16T23:39:38 < zyp> where does the UID come in then? 2018-06-16T23:40:08 < invzim> for the ECDSA signing 2018-06-16T23:40:18 < zyp> signing what? 2018-06-16T23:40:37 < invzim> bootloader - the signature will be unique pr device 2018-06-16T23:41:21 < qyx> what do you want to achieve? 2018-06-16T23:41:23 < zyp> and? 2018-06-16T23:41:54 < invzim> it sounds a little complicated, but it's really simple - just an SD card to initialize the device before shipping 2018-06-16T23:42:42 < zyp> why is the bootloader signed? who verifies the signature? 2018-06-16T23:43:06 < qyx> maybe overly complicated..mif the customer has physical access to the device, signing ahything is useless 2018-06-16T23:43:42 < invzim> the bootload checks itself, and part of the signature is used to decrypt an aes key 2018-06-16T23:43:53 < qyx> for remote update etx., ok, depends on the situation 2018-06-16T23:44:36 < invzim> firmware updates have a common key, but to get it - you will need to go through a lot of hassle to get it 2018-06-16T23:44:48 < qyx> why 2018-06-16T23:44:53 < qyx> just disable the check 2018-06-16T23:45:01 < zyp> sounds like security through obscurity 2018-06-16T23:45:51 < invzim> it's not - that's the private/public key stuff - cloning without patching (and thus ruining chances of future updates as the signature check will fail) will be impossible 2018-06-16T23:46:40 < zyp> how? 2018-06-16T23:46:50 < qyx> how do you want to do that? 2018-06-16T23:47:04 < qyx> how will the device knjow it is cloned? 2018-06-16T23:47:07 < invzim> sha256 of bootloader AND uuid -> sign that with private key, get a signature 2018-06-16T23:47:13 < invzim> store it 2018-06-16T23:47:19 < invzim> in flash 2018-06-16T23:47:57 < invzim> verify signature against UUID and bootloader area, will fail if things are patched or UUID id different 2018-06-16T23:48:27 < qyx> you know that modifying a single if will fix that "problem" 2018-06-16T23:48:36 < BrainDamage> so what if the cloned version skips the check? 2018-06-16T23:49:07 < invzim> then new firmwares will fail, as it can easily verify the signature 2018-06-16T23:49:09 < BrainDamage> what you have there doesn't prevent cloning, it just prevents accepting third party firmwares 2018-06-16T23:49:53 < emeryth> invzim: have you ever read any writeups on cracking firmwares? glitching, decapping, power analysis and stuff? 2018-06-16T23:50:09 < invzim> yes I have, thus the private/public key stuff 2018-06-16T23:50:09 < BrainDamage> why, again, you have the same problem as DRM, your malicious agent and your legitimate is the same entity 2018-06-16T23:50:22 < invzim> and using UID, as it will be non-trivial to get it out with decapping 2018-06-16T23:56:58 < invzim> I'll make a diagram when stuff is done 2018-06-16T23:57:13 < Steffanx> Hmmpf Altium. Want to print/generate some pdf from a schematic, but when i do that like 50% of the labels/texts are missing. I guess i got bitten by warez. 2018-06-16T23:57:29 < invzim> Steffanx: same 2018-06-16T23:57:37 < Steffanx> never had that issue. 2018-06-16T23:57:38 < Steffanx> before 2018-06-16T23:58:22 < Steffanx> When there is an inverted input the line is there, but the text is missing. lol. 2018-06-16T23:58:33 < Steffanx> *or output 2018-06-16T23:58:37 < qyx> 2018-06-16T23:58:47 < invzim> hm, my recent printouts actually look ok 2018-06-16T23:59:39 < BrainDamage> invzim: the way I see you're only preventing writes, not reads, as in, for reads you're relying on the stm32's read protection mechanisms, your mechanism merely prevents cloning by upgrading to a firmware that exfiltrates out the data --- Day changed Sun Jun 17 2018 2018-06-17T00:00:08 < BrainDamage> which is a very narrow case of cloning 2018-06-17T00:00:25 < BrainDamage> you can get the firmware out of a stm32 in other ways 2018-06-17T00:01:10 < invzim> If the firmware is dumped, and put on another device - the firmware will fail as the UID is different. If it's patched, it will fail as the signature check will fail. 2018-06-17T00:01:25 < BrainDamage> the signature check can be bypassed just as well 2018-06-17T00:01:45 < invzim> if that is patched, the main app will fail. Granted, you can patch all - but then new firmwares will not work (as the signature check will fail) 2018-06-17T00:02:18 < BrainDamage> ok, you've just admitted everyone's point now, thanks 2018-06-17T00:02:28 < BrainDamage> you can patch it all, it's just harder 2018-06-17T00:02:34 < zyp> invzim, new firmwares can be patched too 2018-06-17T00:02:39 < BrainDamage> exactly 2018-06-17T00:02:47 < invzim> if you actually got the key 2018-06-17T00:03:00 < qyx> which 2018-06-17T00:03:19 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d3e3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-17T00:03:21 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-d3e3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T00:03:23 < qyx> to decrypt the now firmware before patching? 2018-06-17T00:03:43 < qyx> or what 2018-06-17T00:03:58 < zyp> the bootloader is necessarily able to decrypt any new firmware 2018-06-17T00:04:27 < zyp> if I can dump the bootloader, I can figure out how it derives the key and grab the output 2018-06-17T00:04:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d3e3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T00:04:39 < qyx> if the stm is able to run it, you will be able to get it, sooner or later 2018-06-17T00:04:47 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-d3e3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-17T00:05:03 < invzim> IF you also have the UID of the dumped device, and run it, and get the decrypted key from RAM 2018-06-17T00:05:20 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T00:05:32 < zyp> I don't need to run it, I just need to see what the code does 2018-06-17T00:05:59 < BrainDamage> he means that in order to decrypt the message, you need the UID of the device as well 2018-06-17T00:06:13 < BrainDamage> which frankly, once you dump the firmware, doesn't seem too far-fetched to acquire 2018-06-17T00:06:14 < zyp> and what makes you think grabbing the UID is any harder than grabbing the bootloader itself? 2018-06-17T00:06:27 < invzim> I've heard from reliable sources :) 2018-06-17T00:06:50 < qyx> huh 2018-06-17T00:07:07 < zyp> anyway, you'll be running ROP level 2, right? 2018-06-17T00:07:14 < BrainDamage> magic pixie dust it is ( ' ヮ')ノ.・ﾟ*｡・.・ﾟ*｡・.・ﾟ*｡・ヽ(ﾟДﾟ,,)ノ 2018-06-17T00:07:35 < invzim> zyp: I may, but realistically I'll just run level 1 2018-06-17T00:07:39 < zyp> umm 2018-06-17T00:07:49 < bitmask> ugh, I forget if I printed a part of something. Either I did and I just have to look around a bit to find it, or I didn't and I'm wasting my time :/ 2018-06-17T00:07:55 < zyp> with level 1, what prevents me from just attaching the debugger and reading the UID? 2018-06-17T00:08:04 < zyp> by UID I assume you mean the unique chip id? 2018-06-17T00:08:10 < stvn> cats and dogs 2018-06-17T00:08:22 < stvn> https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/animals/missing-indonesian-found-in-belly-of-python/news-story/7b9e59dbf819ae1c18a4da1941cfdc41 2018-06-17T00:08:38 < invzim> yes - then they would have to know to do it first before decapping 2018-06-17T00:08:48 < BrainDamage> so you do it on 2 devices 2018-06-17T00:08:58 < BrainDamage> after the first failure, you'll do it on the second beforehand 2018-06-17T00:09:15 < invzim> yes 2018-06-17T00:09:18 < BrainDamage> the first they get out the firmware, they RE it, and see it reads the UID 2018-06-17T00:09:28 < invzim> I'm not claiming it's not doable, but I'm doing my best to make it a royal PITA 2018-06-17T00:09:29 < invzim> :) 2018-06-17T00:09:58 < qyx> why decapping on rop level 1? 2018-06-17T00:11:09 < BrainDamage> even if you were to use ROP2, I would call it a minor setback, and if you access the registers by probing, I don't see why the UID or the decryption key would be less accessible 2018-06-17T00:11:56 < BrainDamage> and if you decap you buy a multitude of devices anyway to allow failure rates 2018-06-17T00:12:53 < BrainDamage> what you call a royal PITA is what I'd classify it under standard operating procedure for a decap lab 2018-06-17T00:13:56 < invzim> so any other clever thing one can do or do you think all counter-measures are pointless? 2018-06-17T00:14:32 < BrainDamage> your system blocks one attack vector, public key signature verification is good, the UID is worthless imo 2018-06-17T00:14:39 < BrainDamage> just a minor setback 2018-06-17T00:15:44 < BrainDamage> if your threat model includes chip decapping, you're essentially fucked 2018-06-17T00:16:13 < BrainDamage> if it doesn't, set ROP2 and hope that stm32 is sufficiently robust against the usual shit like power glitching, etc 2018-06-17T00:16:42 < BrainDamage> and keep the public key verification on firmware upgrades, just avoid the UID garbage 2018-06-17T00:17:03 < BrainDamage> if you want per-device shit, just use a different private key per device 2018-06-17T00:17:25 < BrainDamage> but that doesn't prevent cloning, it just prevents aftermarket firmwares 2018-06-17T00:19:15 < invzim> I don't want pr device keys to keep track of, thus the private/public stuff with UID. If copying requires decapping and heavy patching, and blocks out future updates - I'm happy 2018-06-17T00:19:33 < BrainDamage> it won't block out future updates 2018-06-17T00:19:53 < zyp> the UID doesn't do shit if you're still just calculating the same common key 2018-06-17T00:20:35 < invzim> future updates would have to be patched too 2018-06-17T00:21:28 < BrainDamage> why would they? you've just said the same firmware runs in every device, right? 2018-06-17T00:22:01 < invzim> the update will have my original public key, and can verify that the device isn't patched 2018-06-17T00:22:17 < zyp> invzim, once you have the common key, decrypting and patching future updates are trivial 2018-06-17T00:22:26 < BrainDamage> ^ 2018-06-17T00:22:43 < zyp> it's not like you need to touch hardware all over again 2018-06-17T00:22:45 < invzim> at LEAST people with cloned boards will have to get firmwares from other sources 2018-06-17T00:23:02 < zyp> from the cloner, perhaps? 2018-06-17T00:29:37 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T00:32:30 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T00:38:50 < qyx> if stm32 had a hw crypto/key store inside :S 2018-06-17T00:39:21 < qyx> it would not help for this purpose though 2018-06-17T00:39:53 < BrainDamage> you'd need a trusted computing module which would have decap hardening mechanisms for key storage 2018-06-17T00:40:14 < qyx> yes 2018-06-17T00:40:18 < BrainDamage> they don't outright prevent decapping, but they make it hard as shit 2018-06-17T00:40:32 < qyx> such as those by atmel/microchip 2018-06-17T00:41:05 < qyx> without infineon-grade algos 2018-06-17T00:41:33 < zyp> or st31/st32 2018-06-17T00:43:59 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-17T00:44:07 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T00:45:05 < kakimir> fuck 2018-06-17T00:45:20 < kakimir> there is a mosquito - in darkess somewhere 2018-06-17T00:45:38 < zyp> I tried inquiring about getting a NDA for st31, they weren't much interested in talking to me unless I would be looking at annual volumes in the 100k range 2018-06-17T00:46:02 < qyx> haha 2018-06-17T00:46:19 < kakimir> typical 2018-06-17T00:46:32 < kakimir> usually they don't bother even answering your requests 2018-06-17T00:46:44 < kakimir> ih you say like hmm.. maybe 1000pcs 2018-06-17T00:47:48 < qyx> I remember when I was a young and poor student 2018-06-17T00:48:00 < kakimir> but infineon was super nice 2018-06-17T00:48:01 < qyx> I requested samples of enc28j60 2018-06-17T00:48:06 < zyp> I asked this ST rep I've talked to before, would have been rude to not answer so I just got let down politely instead :) 2018-06-17T00:48:14 < kakimir> I said like maybe 100-1000pcs anually 2018-06-17T00:48:40 < kakimir> they answered my technical request and called me to ask if everything was perfect 2018-06-17T00:49:18 < BrainDamage> maxim sent me samples even when I straight told them I was just an EE student, back then 2018-06-17T00:49:33 < zyp> maxim sends samples to everybody 2018-06-17T00:49:46 < zyp> they sent me some when I were still in high school 2018-06-17T00:49:48 < kakimir> still today? 2018-06-17T00:50:21 < zyp> well, they sent me this MAXAUTHDEMO kit recently :p 2018-06-17T00:52:00 < qyx> is it any good? 2018-06-17T00:52:52 < Steffanx> It ended in the unused kits box. 2018-06-17T00:53:02 < Steffanx> Endedn up* 2018-06-17T00:53:09 < Steffanx> Ended. Damnit. 2018-06-17T00:53:11 < qyx> I mean the ds 28c36 2018-06-17T00:53:22 < zyp> still in the envelope on the corner of my desk here 2018-06-17T00:54:28 < qyx> mhm, I am looking for something like tjis in a iso7816 package 2018-06-17T00:54:44 < qyx> or atecc508 or such 2018-06-17T00:55:04 < qyx> fuk android keyboard 2018-06-17T01:01:48 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-17T01:02:07 < BrainDamage> this looks like a good manual since we were about earlier on setting up an inquisition tribunal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBK5aKOr2Fw 2018-06-17T01:03:10 -!- ivanshmakov [~user@tunnel35660-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-17T01:08:20 < Steffanx> lol altium, what are you doing? https://imgur.com/a/DNEGqL1 2018-06-17T01:08:36 < Steffanx> It either shows the display name or the designator, but never both. 2018-06-17T01:08:50 < Steffanx> ( in the print preview or when saved to a pdf ) 2018-06-17T01:12:42 < stvn> tel:+61294101005 2018-06-17T01:13:00 < stvn> call the aussies mate 2018-06-17T01:13:17 < Steffanx> Clement, G ? 2018-06-17T01:14:38 < stvn> wut 2018-06-17T01:15:23 < branjb> lol 2018-06-17T01:16:21 < Steffanx> https://www.reverseaustralia.com/lookup/0294101005/ 2018-06-17T01:16:50 < BrainDamage> did you just dox yourself? 2018-06-17T01:17:18 < stvn> no 2018-06-17T01:17:27 < stvn> its the phone number on alitum website 2018-06-17T01:17:39 < stvn> altium 2018-06-17T01:18:46 < stvn> help 2018-06-17T01:18:57 < branjb> didn't what's his name 2018-06-17T01:19:00 < branjb> eevblog guy 2018-06-17T01:19:03 < branjb> work at altium? 2018-06-17T01:19:05 < Steffanx> Dave. 2018-06-17T01:21:46 < stvn> lol 2018-06-17T01:21:56 < stvn> yes he did 2018-06-17T01:22:08 < stvn> before he 'accidentally' burned down the office in australia 2018-06-17T01:22:09 < branjb> call him and ask why his software sucks 2018-06-17T01:22:28 < branjb> is there a news story to back up that claim? 2018-06-17T01:22:45 < stvn> lol 2018-06-17T01:23:13 < stvn> call it the most likely scenario 2018-06-17T01:23:16 < englishman> he's the reason altidumb tried to do fpga shit for 10 years and didnt sell a single seat 2018-06-17T01:23:29 < branjb> lol 2018-06-17T01:23:31 < branjb> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dave+jones+burns+down+altium&atb=v47-3&ia=web 2018-06-17T01:24:55 < Steffanx> lol wut englishman? 2018-06-17T01:25:14 < englishman> the chickens have arrived 2018-06-17T01:25:27 < Steffanx> the chickens. 2018-06-17T01:25:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-d3e3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-17T01:27:35 < kakimir> I need my daily dose of canada englishman 2018-06-17T01:28:05 < kakimir> #mapleleaf 2018-06-17T01:28:23 < Steffanx> Get some maple syrup. 2018-06-17T01:28:37 < englishman> gimme 10min 2018-06-17T01:28:43 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-17T01:28:53 < kakimir> but making pancakes makes me fatter 2018-06-17T01:29:17 < Steffanx> you have 5, englishman 2018-06-17T01:29:47 < kakimir> maybe I just drink the syrup Steffanx 2018-06-17T01:31:45 < bitmask> second drawing arm is almost done 2018-06-17T01:31:51 < stvn> o 2018-06-17T01:31:59 < bitmask> just the 3 big pieces to go 2018-06-17T01:32:06 < Steffanx> stvn-o ? 2018-06-17T01:32:14 < stvn> hie 2018-06-17T01:33:44 < kakimir> how is hangover stvn? 2018-06-17T01:34:04 < stvn> wut 2018-06-17T01:34:14 < stvn> how the fuck can i have a hangover? 2018-06-17T01:35:35 < BrainDamage> easy, you have breakfast with weißbier 2018-06-17T01:39:33 < Steffanx> i heard victoria bitter is a popular one. 2018-06-17T01:41:03 < kakimir> I heard the best cold beer is vic 2018-06-17T01:41:11 < stvn> you can get it jumping 2018-06-17T01:41:12 < stvn> you can get it pumping 2018-06-17T01:41:32 < kakimir> - a long cold vic 2018-06-17T01:42:39 < stvn> https://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/2183646/Crackatinny/ 2018-06-17T01:43:57 < stvn> does that make sense 2018-06-17T01:44:54 < branjb> stvn that is quite a collection, you could probably get $50 for it 2018-06-17T01:45:21 < stvn> that's how they buy their next case of beer perhaps lol 2018-06-17T01:46:05 < kakimir> it's the sacred circle 2018-06-17T01:46:07 < branjb> my friend spent 6 years living in alice springs australia, he has some p good aboriginal stories 2018-06-17T01:50:41 < englishman> kakimir: uploading 2018-06-17T01:54:12 < englishman> kakimir: https://imgur.com/a/LntjD4r 2018-06-17T01:54:37 < branjb> that your farm englishman? 2018-06-17T01:54:46 < englishman> no i just live there 2018-06-17T01:54:46 < stvn> cats 2018-06-17T01:54:50 < branjb> oh 2018-06-17T01:55:03 < BrainDamage> that's a lot of chicks 2018-06-17T01:55:07 < Steffanx> do the cats like thie little tweeters? 2018-06-17T01:55:47 < englishman> yes very 2018-06-17T01:56:26 < kakimir> https://i.imgur.com/reyF2f2.jpg 2018-06-17T01:57:01 < kakimir> challengin terrain 2018-06-17T01:57:09 < englishman> not for a cow 2018-06-17T01:57:16 < branjb> that's gorgeous 2018-06-17T01:57:28 < branjb> is it covered in snow 80% of the year? 2018-06-17T01:57:39 < englishman> yes 2018-06-17T01:57:57 < stvn> cool 2018-06-17T01:58:06 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/kVZA693.jpg 2018-06-17T01:58:34 < branjb> looks like the perfect spot for a hortons 2018-06-17T01:59:18 < englishman> oh this is the same valley https://i.imgur.com/KyEhDKQ.jpg 2018-06-17T01:59:58 < branjb> that looks terrible 2018-06-17T02:00:04 < englishman> today its 32C 2018-06-17T02:00:33 < branjb> i only know burger units 2018-06-17T02:02:17 < branjb> oh 2018-06-17T02:02:23 < branjb> it's 29 C here today 2018-06-17T02:04:07 < BrainDamage> https://ptpb.pw/YPaR.JPG 2018-06-17T02:04:41 < BrainDamage> ... not as interesting :( 2018-06-17T02:05:12 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/AIzORjP 2018-06-17T02:05:23 < branjb> >that smog 2018-06-17T02:09:29 < englishman> nice hills tho 2018-06-17T02:10:57 < branjb> https://imgur.com/a/AIzORjP it's good hiking 2018-06-17T02:14:41 < Steffanx> btw zyp, you can always go for a nice climb in Groningen: https://imgur.com/gallery/radvdln 2018-06-17T02:14:59 < branjb> fuck that 2018-06-17T02:15:18 < branjb> oh they have ropes 2018-06-17T02:15:36 < Steffanx> Yeah, im pretty sure they wont let you go without 2018-06-17T02:15:52 < branjb> is that an open source climbing wall or do you have to pay 2018-06-17T02:16:07 < mawk> what happens if I use HSI as PLL input to feed usb 2018-06-17T02:16:33 < mawk> cubeMX protests about it and asks for HSE, but in the ST provided examples for USB for my board they're using HSI so I guess it could be fine 2018-06-17T02:16:48 < Steffanx> It's payware branjb 2018-06-17T02:17:11 < branjb> payware? 2018-06-17T02:17:21 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T02:17:25 < branjb> oh 2018-06-17T02:17:27 < branjb> i'm slow 2018-06-17T02:18:13 < branjb> mother in law over 2018-06-17T02:18:21 < Steffanx> Have fun. 2018-06-17T02:18:29 < branjb> conversation with her and my wife has been 45 min so far about the intricacies of cats and litter boxes 2018-06-17T02:18:42 < englishman> which chip mawk 2018-06-17T02:18:49 < mawk> stm32l152ret6 2018-06-17T02:18:53 < englishman> no st can use HSI for usb 2018-06-17T02:19:11 < englishman> the ones that don't require HSE for usb have their own 48MHz internal usb oscillator 2018-06-17T02:19:13 < Steffanx> You can do it, it CAN work. 2018-06-17T02:19:29 < mawk> it doesn't work for high speed stuff I guess 2018-06-17T02:19:39 < Steffanx> i believe jpa- did it on L152 2018-06-17T02:19:53 < englishman> cool 2018-06-17T02:20:09 < Steffanx> but always "at room temperature". 2018-06-17T02:20:21 < mawk> see the example in STM32Cube_FW_L1_V1.8.1/Projects/STM32L152RE-Nucleo/Applications/USB_Device/HID_Standalone 2018-06-17T02:20:23 < Steffanx> but why would you... 2018-06-17T02:20:31 < englishman> on a single chip once in 2015 2018-06-17T02:20:45 < Steffanx> something like that, yes 2018-06-17T02:22:16 < mawk> it's ST code and they don't put any warning about the stability of this 2018-06-17T02:22:38 < mawk> their programmers don't look very bright from here 2018-06-17T02:27:43 < Laurenceb_> muh eugenics 2018-06-17T02:27:58 * Laurenceb_ is still reading IQ paper 2018-06-17T02:28:07 < Laurenceb_> tfw too low iq to understand 2018-06-17T02:30:20 < englishman> oh neat, looks like they are confident in their hsi 2018-06-17T02:30:34 < englishman> especially in a nucleo example project that has hse present 2018-06-17T02:31:13 < mawk> HSE is present ? 2018-06-17T02:31:29 < mawk> I thought HSE was then unsoldered thing named X3 2018-06-17T02:31:50 < mawk> on the nucleo board 2018-06-17T02:32:23 < englishman> a clock is output from the stlink 2018-06-17T02:32:29 < mawk> ah, right 2018-06-17T02:32:39 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T02:33:38 < mawk> even when powered with E5V ? 2018-06-17T02:33:51 < mawk> and not from the stlink 2018-06-17T02:36:16 < englishman> idk i power all that stuff from usb 2018-06-17T02:51:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T03:01:43 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-17T03:06:00 -!- Jak_o_Ombroj [~Jak@58.175.241.176] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-17T03:09:48 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T03:15:15 < branjb> damn monsoon roaring through here 2018-06-17T03:19:24 -!- dow [55b39076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.179.144.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-17T03:45:02 < dongs> branjb: lol 2018-06-17T03:45:20 < branjb> you wanna build an open sores factory with me? 2018-06-17T03:45:37 < branjb> is open sores the new term for communism? 2018-06-17T03:45:47 < branjb> "do work for free" 2018-06-17T03:47:39 < branjb> > 2018-06-17T03:47:45 < dongs> haha 2018-06-17T03:47:47 < branjb> >christianity isn't so different from linux distros 2018-06-17T03:47:48 < branjb> >someone gets upset, they 'fork' christianity 2018-06-17T03:48:01 < branjb> >but maintain ties to upstream 2018-06-17T04:14:01 < aandrew> branjb: wtf are you that there is such thing as a monsoon? 2018-06-17T04:20:25 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A325E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T04:24:21 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081EE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-17T04:27:37 < branjb> arizona 2018-06-17T04:38:50 < aandrew> huh, TIL AZ has monsoon season 2018-06-17T04:39:37 < branjb> it's actually out of monsoon season but we got one today 2018-06-17T04:39:45 < dongs> opensores monsoon 2018-06-17T04:42:55 < Laurenceb_> I just want some opensores eugenics codez 2018-06-17T04:43:06 < Laurenceb_> anyways I think I worked it out 2018-06-17T04:43:42 < Laurenceb_> figure C is a fudge as they couldnt model the probability that how stupid you think you are relates to your chance of getting an IQ test 2018-06-17T04:44:13 < Laurenceb_> tl;dr gas the stupid 2018-06-17T04:44:48 < Laurenceb_> holy shit 2018-06-17T04:44:56 < Laurenceb_> Steve Sailer is involved 2018-06-17T04:46:14 < Laurenceb_> perplexing.. why would they fudge it to get the "correct" answer 2018-06-17T04:47:17 < dongs> aandrew: did you have to do anything special to passthrough your gayvidia in esxi 2018-06-17T04:47:23 < dongs> other than main output being off igp 2018-06-17T04:47:27 < aandrew> no it was actually amazingly easy 2018-06-17T04:47:32 < aandrew> but I"m using ATI, not nVidia 2018-06-17T04:48:05 < dongs> ah 2018-06-17T04:48:44 < aandrew> not a fancy ATI either, some shit Radeon 5400 2018-06-17T04:48:55 < aandrew> Altium just needed access to a real GPU 2018-06-17T04:49:33 < dongs> so you have the video card output going to a real monitor or wahetver, or do you just haev it "attached" to that VM and then remote desktop or wahtever the fuck over to it 2018-06-17T04:49:46 < Laurenceb_> wew Ole Rogeberg is deputy director of www.frisch.uio.no 2018-06-17T04:49:51 < Laurenceb_> should I tell antifa? 2018-06-17T04:49:54 < aandrew> nope 2018-06-17T04:49:59 < Laurenceb_> kek 2018-06-17T04:50:02 < aandrew> the video card has nothing plugged into it 2018-06-17T04:50:27 < aandrew> I just told ESXi that I'm passing that PCI ID and then the Altium VM is given access to that specific hardware 2018-06-17T04:50:41 < aandrew> I access anything on my ESXi server either via ssh or RDP 2018-06-17T04:50:48 < aandrew> there is no monitor attached 2018-06-17T04:51:10 < aandrew> hah sorry dongs I just did what my wife always does to me 2018-06-17T04:51:14 < aandrew> "A or B" "yes" 2018-06-17T04:51:27 < aandrew> didn't read the second half of that, I am doing the latter 2018-06-17T04:52:32 < dongs> right 2018-06-17T04:59:06 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@106.78.171.91] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T04:59:06 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@106.78.171.91] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-17T04:59:06 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:01:11 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:03:13 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:06:21 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:11:53 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-17T05:11:55 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:16:31 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:16:50 -!- Chris_M|2 [~Chris_M@ppp118-209-74-211.bras1.mel11.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:19:34 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:21:27 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:21:36 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:23:46 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:27:49 < Thorn> I have transmit-only SPI in f0. how do I transmit multiple bytes (in polling mode) and wait for transmission to complete without waiting for RXNE and reading DR after every byte? 2018-06-17T05:28:27 < dongs> you don't 2018-06-17T05:28:36 < Thorn> (I need to toggle a command/data signal after transmitting a part of data) 2018-06-17T05:29:14 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/wCNgXI78.html 2018-06-17T05:29:22 < dongs> thats my polling transmit 2018-06-17T05:30:10 < dongs> (zyp rewrwote it before but i didnt have time to fuck aroudn with testing it 2018-06-17T05:30:18 < Thorn> what about the BSY flag 2018-06-17T05:30:24 < Thorn> they warn agains using BSY in the RM lol 2018-06-17T05:30:54 < Thorn> but maybe it will work especially if I actually set SPI to TX only (there seems to be a setting for that) 2018-06-17T05:31:28 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:34:41 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:37:59 < Thorn> this EastRising display doesn't have a clear display command lol 2018-06-17T05:40:35 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:40:50 < R0b0t1`> I'm trying to give up and use an IDE but I can't get Eclipse to install project templates or the toolchain 2018-06-17T05:41:15 < Thorn> what's IDE 2018-06-17T05:41:25 < Thorn> you mean you don't want to use makefiles anymore? 2018-06-17T05:41:57 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-17T05:42:21 < bitmask> oh thesis paper how I hate you already 2018-06-17T05:43:03 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T05:53:48 < R0b0t1`> Thorn: Yes 2018-06-17T05:54:06 < R0b0t1`> Thorn: Main reason is what looks like poor support from ST in their examples 2018-06-17T05:55:42 < R0b0t1`> But Eclipse doesn't support the L4 series and the options have changed for the new release 2018-06-17T06:08:42 < stvn> the dogs 2018-06-17T06:09:21 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-17T06:23:00 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-17T06:31:33 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-17T06:32:32 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T06:52:30 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T07:01:28 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T07:04:56 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-17T07:04:56 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-17T07:05:42 < Thorn> https://i.imgur.com/u8LB3oW.jpg 2018-06-17T07:07:09 < stvn> that looks agreeable 2018-06-17T07:07:32 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-17T07:07:50 < Thorn> it could look far better but ##stm32 failed to deliver a 128x64 dickbutt :/ 2018-06-17T07:09:26 < stvn> the cockman 2018-06-17T07:11:26 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T07:40:28 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T07:41:06 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-17T07:44:57 < bitmask> I'll give you a dickbutt 2018-06-17T07:46:16 < stvn> and there you have it 2018-06-17T07:46:34 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T07:47:03 < stvn> where is that blaxter man 2018-06-17T07:47:12 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-17T07:48:16 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T07:50:03 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T07:50:41 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-17T07:53:50 < jpa-> englishman: multiple chips, but yeah, only at room temp 2018-06-17T07:57:06 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-17T07:59:12 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T08:01:59 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T08:02:06 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-17T08:15:20 < R0b0t1`> Alright 2018-06-17T08:15:23 < R0b0t1`> So I downloaded this example 2018-06-17T08:15:31 < R0b0t1`> The issue is there's no Makefile 2018-06-17T08:16:36 < R0b0t1`> My options are EWARM or MDK-ARM 2018-06-17T08:16:46 < R0b0t1`> Maybe I can copy the code out of it 2018-06-17T08:16:47 < R0b0t1`> Hmm 2018-06-17T08:16:55 < R0b0t1`> Thorn: ^ Why I wanted to use an IDE 2018-06-17T08:17:00 < R0b0t1`> forgot it was only EWARM basically 2018-06-17T08:18:41 < R0b0t1> Or Keil uVision 2018-06-17T08:18:48 < R0b0t1> ls 2018-06-17T08:22:16 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T08:27:50 < R0b0t1`> Anyone know how to export a Makefile from Kiel uVision or IAR? 2018-06-17T08:32:45 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-17T09:06:55 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T09:17:14 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T09:21:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-17T09:22:19 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T09:23:29 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-17T09:24:02 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T09:44:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-17T09:59:45 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-17T10:22:14 < Jak_o_Shadows> Huh. Why did I decided to use uint16s over serial? 2018-06-17T10:23:57 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-17T11:03:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-c6b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T11:04:37 < kakimir> why not 2018-06-17T11:05:27 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY87o9IZXWg let's go 2018-06-17T11:09:27 < stvn> why did that spawn a hungry jack's ad 2018-06-17T11:09:40 < stvn> i don't want a fucking whopper i just had dinner 2018-06-17T11:19:41 < dongs> but i bet you wouldn't say no to a hungry jackoff 2018-06-17T11:20:47 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T11:21:48 < stvn> hi dongs! 2018-06-17T11:21:49 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/p4hNZ0A.png 2018-06-17T11:22:02 < stvn> that is all 2018-06-17T11:22:21 < dongs> retweeting 2018-06-17T11:25:26 < BrainDamage> ah, so that's where the meme of that face came from, the bottom left corner 2018-06-17T11:28:46 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-17T11:29:24 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-7-14.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T11:31:19 < stvn> that meme is the 'xbox kid' 2018-06-17T11:31:57 < stvn> i really hate posting this shit but the variants of this are fucking hilarious http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xbox-360-kid 2018-06-17T11:36:13 < dongs> wow 2018-06-17T11:36:19 < dongs> new2me 2018-06-17T11:36:39 < dongs> stvn out-pumped me 2018-06-17T11:48:13 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-7-14.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-17T11:59:02 < stvn> superbia1: greetings 2018-06-17T12:00:17 < stvn> doesn't sound very stm32 2018-06-17T12:00:51 < stvn> nothing does... 2018-06-17T12:14:12 < Steffanx> Whats wrong stvn? 2018-06-17T12:16:15 < BrainDamage> stvn: yes, but the steve jobs variant is famous on its own 2018-06-17T12:19:52 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T12:29:00 < stvn> it is the greatest variant 2018-06-17T12:29:09 < stvn> Steffanx: welcome 2018-06-17T12:29:26 < Steffanx> Hello 2018-06-17T12:30:01 < stvn> what are you doing awake? 2018-06-17T12:30:20 < Steffanx> Nothing Kumpel 2018-06-17T12:30:32 < Steffanx> Its 11.30 you know 2018-06-17T12:30:52 < stvn> yah i just googled your clock 2018-06-17T12:31:02 < stvn> sunday morning 2018-06-17T12:31:23 < Steffanx> Lol. 2018-06-17T12:31:24 < stvn> i never really commit to memory who is ahead or behind in time 2018-06-17T12:31:47 < Steffanx> No need to google. http://time.is/netherlands 2018-06-17T12:31:59 < stvn> yeah 2018-06-17T12:32:01 < Steffanx> Time.is all you need 2018-06-17T12:32:12 < stvn> indeed, moar time. 2018-06-17T12:32:22 < stvn> I'd much prefer to have a wall of clocks with IRC names on each 2018-06-17T12:32:30 < BrainDamage> time difference between us is almost 12h, so it's kinda easy 2018-06-17T12:32:48 < stvn> and time difference between me and senpai is fuck all 2018-06-17T12:34:07 < Steffanx> Almost 12? 2018-06-17T12:34:18 < Steffanx> Yeah 8h is close to 12h 2018-06-17T12:35:20 < Steffanx> Lets make such thing stvn. Use keil to wizard it together. 2018-06-17T12:35:32 < stvn> yeah keil is great 2018-06-17T12:35:57 < stvn> but i have to play altium 2018-06-17T12:36:27 < Steffanx> I played altium yesterday but it screwed me over 2018-06-17T12:37:37 < Steffanx> https://imgur.com/a/DNEGqL1 it either shows thr designator or the display name of a pin. Not both 2018-06-17T12:38:00 < Steffanx> And it only happens when exported to a pdf or in the print preview. 2018-06-17T12:38:04 < dongs> did ytou make that center box transparent 2018-06-17T12:38:06 < stvn> ah 2018-06-17T12:38:14 < dongs> by doubleclicking 2018-06-17T12:38:19 < Steffanx> Even Solidworks PCB can do it. 2018-06-17T12:38:20 < dongs> and [x] TRANSPARENT 2018-06-17T12:38:29 < Steffanx> No, its altidongs failing. 2018-06-17T12:38:43 < stvn> can't say mine did that 2018-06-17T12:38:48 < dongs> ^ 2018-06-17T12:38:50 < Steffanx> Its ok in the editor, not whe. Printed 2018-06-17T12:38:52 < dongs> with mr.pumper here 2018-06-17T12:39:14 < Steffanx> Bitten by warez i think :P 2018-06-17T12:39:30 < stvn> yeah man you bet your arse 2018-06-17T12:39:39 < Steffanx> Hah. Yes. 2018-06-17T12:39:44 < stvn> it's a well know fact they'll leave all sorts of surprises in software 2018-06-17T12:40:02 < stvn> sure i'll fall over and be a cinch to crack it 2018-06-17T12:40:06 < stvn> give it a few months :) 2018-06-17T12:40:47 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-c6b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T12:49:42 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T12:51:14 < Steffanx> Cant you share your license stvn? 2018-06-17T12:51:32 < stvn> yeah of course 2018-06-17T12:51:42 < stvn> everyone in this channel uses it 2018-06-17T12:52:19 < stvn> you see https://i.imgur.com/mS5iL57.jpg 2018-06-17T12:52:20 < Steffanx> 1234-PUMP-5678-ITUP ? 2018-06-17T12:52:30 < stvn> yes 2018-06-17T13:07:02 < dongs> 70741-13541 2018-06-17T13:10:36 < Steffanx> Never knew Solidworks does altium too, you can even edit schematics and do pcbs 2018-06-17T13:10:40 < Steffanx> "powered by altium". 2018-06-17T13:10:49 < Steffanx> incl. the circuitmaker ribbon 2018-06-17T13:10:54 < dongs> really? what the fuck does it do 2018-06-17T13:11:01 < dongs> runs altidumb activex inside solidworks or somethin? 2018-06-17T13:11:09 < dongs> screenshot of this filth 2018-06-17T13:11:46 < Steffanx> http://blogs.solidworks.com/solidworksblog/2016/10/solidworks-pcb-powered-altium-innovative-pcb-technology-unleashed.html thats it. 2018-06-17T13:12:39 < Steffanx> You just open a pcbproj and you go and edit it. 2018-06-17T13:12:49 < Steffanx> *prjpcb 2018-06-17T13:12:55 < dongs> hah, no shit 2018-06-17T13:15:43 < Steffanx> oh lol, best part is that the executable is actually called DXP.exe 2018-06-17T13:24:11 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-17T13:32:16 < stvn> the software 2018-06-17T13:33:06 < dongs> circuitmaker is dxp.exe too 2018-06-17T13:33:16 < stvn> heh+ 2018-06-17T13:33:31 < stvn> keil is still UV4 yea 2018-06-17T13:38:32 < dongs> stffn, there's many things triggering about that stm32 footprint tho 2018-06-17T13:39:59 < Steffanx> what dont you love my symbol dongs? 2018-06-17T13:59:43 < stvn> L\O\L\ 2018-06-17T14:01:53 < dongs> lol 2018-06-17T14:02:15 < dongs> Steffanx: i thought those pins were different length then i raelized t eh symbol is probably in scshematic 2018-06-17T14:02:36 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:890b:a01c:44f9:b87] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T14:04:58 < Steffanx> yeaj 2018-06-17T14:06:18 < dongs> this design is fucking bullshit 2018-06-17T14:06:25 < dongs> i need 3.3, 2.5, 1.8, 1.5V 2018-06-17T14:06:35 < zyp> haha 2018-06-17T14:06:45 < zyp> fpga or some ridiculous soc? 2018-06-17T14:06:55 < dongs> 3 of those high current e nough to require switching regulators 2018-06-17T14:06:59 < stvn> haha that is a ripper 2018-06-17T14:07:00 < dongs> fpga on tehre too 2018-06-17T14:07:07 < stvn> every voltage known to man 2018-06-17T14:07:20 < zyp> atsama5? 2018-06-17T14:07:31 < dongs> naw, not doing taht yet. refactoring an old design 2018-06-17T14:07:35 < zyp> right 2018-06-17T14:07:50 < dongs> sam5 was sane last i looked 2018-06-17T14:07:57 < dongs> almost nothing uses 1.5V these dsays 2018-06-17T14:07:59 < dongs> its 1.2 or lower 2018-06-17T14:08:34 < jpa-> time for one of those funky smps chips that can generate multiple output voltages with a single inductor 2018-06-17T14:09:01 < dongs> thats part of the reason for refactoring 2018-06-17T14:09:08 < dongs> old shit used some dual ldo/buck thing that is no longer made. 2018-06-17T14:29:29 < stvn> ty 2018-06-17T14:32:03 < Steffanx> yw 2018-06-17T14:38:41 < Lux> https://godbolt.org/g/D5eFbs 2018-06-17T14:43:56 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-17T14:46:09 < jpa-> that's a nice way to write popcount to start with 2018-06-17T14:48:05 < dongs> um how does that work 2018-06-17T14:48:10 < dongs> when there's some 0's between bits 2018-06-17T14:49:54 < jpa-> subtracting 1 will borrow from the lowest 1 bit, causing that bit to go to zero and all bits below it to go to 1; the and operation eliminates the bits that get set to 1, and thus zeroes only the lowest bit that is set in x 2018-06-17T14:50:15 < jpa-> x &= x - 1; equals "zero out lowest 1 bit in x" 2018-06-17T14:52:42 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/HNg7LZ32.html heh neat 2018-06-17T15:08:38 < zyp> a related trick is to check x & (x - 1), to check whether a number is a power of two 2018-06-17T15:09:07 < zyp> the relation is obvious when you consider that a power of two always has a popcount of 1 2018-06-17T15:10:16 < stvn> i see 2018-06-17T15:15:03 < jpa-> except 0 :P 2018-06-17T15:15:22 < zyp> 0 is not a power of two 2018-06-17T15:15:35 < jpa-> but x & (x - 1) == 0 matches it 2018-06-17T15:16:33 < jpa-> (i guess i should have said "or 0".. but that would have been confusing also and i wouldn't bother writing more than two words!) 2018-06-17T15:17:11 < zyp> fair :) 2018-06-17T15:17:45 < Steffanx> I wonder if there is a way to check if x is non zero. 2018-06-17T15:17:58 < zyp> I don't think so 2018-06-17T15:18:27 < jpa-> yeah, (x - 1) & ~x 2018-06-17T15:19:14 < jpa-> the result is -1 only if x is 0 2018-06-17T15:20:27 < Steffanx> nah in the original code x is uint64_t 2018-06-17T15:20:54 < zyp> still true 2018-06-17T15:26:14 < Steffanx> hmm i see 2018-06-17T15:29:03 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T15:32:47 < Laurenceb_> reported for yet another zero effort post 2018-06-17T16:08:56 < mawk> if I buy some crystal oscillator and solder it in the X3 spot on the nucleo board it will work just like that ? 2018-06-17T16:14:31 < englishman> probably not, what does the nucleo user manual say? 2018-06-17T16:15:02 < jpa-> usually they have places for crystal resonators, not for oscillators 2018-06-17T16:15:33 < mawk> the place on the board is large and roundish 2018-06-17T16:15:40 < mawk> looks like the shape of an oscillator 2018-06-17T16:15:50 < jpa-> ... 2018-06-17T16:15:57 < jpa-> which nucleo is this anyway? 2018-06-17T16:16:05 < mawk> L152RE 2018-06-17T16:16:57 < mawk> ah I need to cut out some resistors 2018-06-17T16:17:01 < jpa-> two pins, definitely crystal resonator and not an oscillator (oscillators always have atleast 3 pins) 2018-06-17T16:17:40 < jpa-> but yeah, page 24 tells what you need to do to fit X3 2018-06-17T16:17:44 < mawk> https://core-electronics.com.au/low-profile-crystal-oscillator-4-mhz.html 2018-06-17T16:17:46 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-17T16:18:27 < jpa-> well, they're using the wrong term just like you :P 2018-06-17T16:18:44 < mawk> lol 2018-06-17T16:19:49 < jpa-> oscillators have integrated circuit that already outputs sine/square wave, and takes supply voltage in, usually with 3 or 4 pins https://www.taydaelectronics.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/211x211/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/O/S/OSC-20M-MEC_2.jpg 2018-06-17T16:20:04 < mawk> I see 2018-06-17T16:44:48 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T16:47:38 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T16:47:39 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-17T16:47:39 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T16:58:01 -!- ivanshmakov [~user@tunnel35660-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T17:36:38 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T17:37:36 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-17T17:52:33 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T17:57:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T18:04:00 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T18:11:28 < Steffanx> How do the pros do it... do you have mounting holes in the shcematic as part? 2018-06-17T18:11:54 < zyp> some do, I don' 2018-06-17T18:11:55 < zyp> t 2018-06-17T18:12:07 < zyp> I just add holes to the layout 2018-06-17T18:12:46 < zyp> I do have fiducials as parts, but I don't add those to schematic either 2018-06-17T18:13:18 < zyp> I probably should, because when I don't, the ERC stuff always wants to remove them from layout 2018-06-17T18:13:24 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-17T18:13:35 < Steffanx> hah 2018-06-17T18:14:12 < zyp> for plain holes I wouldn't bother making components of it, but for complex stuff it would make sense 2018-06-17T18:16:26 < Steffanx> im not pro enough for fiducials, wont pick and place stuff 2018-06-17T18:21:51 < zyp> aww 2018-06-17T18:27:49 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T18:36:01 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-17T18:37:17 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T18:44:36 < karlp> Steffanx: yes, we were ready :) 2018-06-17T18:50:24 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T18:54:15 < Steffanx> Hah karlp. Done celebrating the 1-1? :p 2018-06-17T18:59:13 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T19:00:33 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-11b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T19:06:34 < karlp> you bet. 2018-06-17T19:26:40 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-17T19:28:23 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T19:29:33 < englishman> I put mounting holes in sch if they have a signal connection 2018-06-17T19:30:08 < englishman> fids go in sch too so I can give them a refdes and export them in picknplace file 2018-06-17T19:32:24 < Steffanx> ty :) 2018-06-17T19:39:32 -!- upgrdman_ is now known as upgrdman 2018-06-17T19:39:40 < upgrdman> wow, a 4k ultrawide monitor http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34WK95U-W-ultrawide-monitor 2018-06-17T19:39:54 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-17T19:40:48 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T19:41:41 < Steffanx> Funny how it was announced 6+ months ago 2018-06-17T19:41:44 < englishman> $2500 2018-06-17T19:41:47 < englishman> Er 2018-06-17T19:41:49 < englishman> $1500 2018-06-17T19:41:51 < englishman> lol 2018-06-17T19:42:00 < Steffanx> is it even available yet? 2018-06-17T19:42:04 < englishman> no 2018-06-17T19:44:59 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T19:45:37 < BrainDamage> upgrdman: https://ptpb.pw/A6iJ.jpg 2018-06-17T19:46:53 < Steffanx> lol 2018-06-17T19:46:56 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T19:47:18 < upgrdman> heh 2018-06-17T19:49:41 < jadew> holly fucking shit, paypal is fucking annoying 2018-06-17T19:49:55 < jadew> they're now asking me to change my shipping address to be word for word that from the bank statemtnt 2018-06-17T19:50:12 < jadew> the bank statement one is basically missing the "Nr." in front of the street number 2018-06-17T19:51:49 < upgrdman> https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/8rpwq3/surface_to_air_tp/ 2018-06-17T19:52:51 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T19:52:56 < BrainDamage> that video is old as balls 2018-06-17T19:53:40 < ivanshmakov> jadew: +1, although the most annoying thing about Paypal (IMO) is that some organizations / people don’t support anything but. 2018-06-17T19:55:37 < jadew> I called them incompetents and asked them to review it again 2018-06-17T19:59:45 < Steffanx> Sounds like you went hostile and.. maybe they dont like that attitude ? :P 2018-06-17T20:00:52 < jadew> fuck them 2018-06-17T20:01:02 < jadew> they're annoying as hell 2018-06-17T20:01:40 < Steffanx> Didnt it start with you not doing what they asked? And then you engaged rage mode? 2018-06-17T20:01:49 < Steffanx> the ID thing. 2018-06-17T20:01:56 < jadew> I did do what they want, that's the thing 2018-06-17T20:02:00 < jadew> they just said it's not enough 2018-06-17T20:02:18 < jadew> then I sent bank statements (even tho I didn't have them at first) 2018-06-17T20:02:22 < jadew> and that's not enough either 2018-06-17T20:02:42 < jadew> because the address on the bank statement is written differently than my shipping address 2018-06-17T20:02:56 < jadew> now they're asking me to change my shipping address to what it says on the bank statement, which is retarded 2018-06-17T20:03:17 < jadew> because I have my shipping address in paypal written in the most verbose way, while on the bank statement, it's not 2018-06-17T20:03:32 < jadew> I was " " this close to call them retards 2018-06-17T20:03:45 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:890b:a01c:44f9:b87] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-17T20:03:50 < jadew> I rephrased tho and called them incompetents 2018-06-17T20:04:14 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-17T20:05:37 < jadew> also, why the fuck would it matter if I changed my shipping address in paypal? 2018-06-17T20:05:49 < jadew> if I can do it and that would make things fine, how is that a security measure? 2018-06-17T20:05:56 < jadew> it's fucking insane 2018-06-17T20:06:27 < upgrdman> jadew, shipping to the address on file with your bank is the safest thing for retails to do, it reduces fraud 2018-06-17T20:06:49 < jadew> upgrdman, it is the same address, but the thing is that it makes no difference now 2018-06-17T20:06:58 < upgrdman> and while i understand what you're saying, leaving room for paypal or others to decide if the address is "close enough" is just a waste of their time 2018-06-17T20:07:26 < jadew> well, I'm paying them 2018-06-17T20:07:34 < jadew> they should make the fucking time to check that shit 2018-06-17T20:07:56 < upgrdman> you are one of billions of transactions, you're not that special 2018-06-17T20:08:20 < upgrdman> what the fuck dont you spell your address differently for different people anyway, lol 2018-06-17T20:08:25 < upgrdman> s/dont/do 2018-06-17T20:08:37 < jadew> I do, the bank just wrote it differently 2018-06-17T20:08:48 < jadew> I don't want to have that as my shipping address 2018-06-17T20:08:55 < jadew> the way it's written in paypal is clearer 2018-06-17T20:08:55 < upgrdman> k 2018-06-17T20:10:11 < Steffanx> but you know.. im not going to judge without seeing the actual conversation(s) :P 2018-06-17T20:11:09 < Steffanx> just from experience your and my vision isnt the same (very often) 2018-06-17T20:17:57 < jadew> I've been as cooperative as possible 2018-06-17T20:18:04 < jadew> but they're insane 2018-06-17T20:18:20 < jadew> they have official id, driver's license and bank statements and they still need more proof of address 2018-06-17T20:19:17 < Steffanx> I think they are being racist, because romanian :P 2018-06-17T20:19:25 < Steffanx> you cant trust those 2018-06-17T20:19:47 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T20:19:55 < jadew> yeah... well I'll close my paypal account after this 2018-06-17T20:20:09 < jadew> I can pay directly by card on most things anyway 2018-06-17T20:20:21 < jadew> won't add paypal to my site either 2018-06-17T20:21:38 < Steffanx> better get some sane alternative then. I dont feel like entering my CC stuff on a .ro website. :P 2018-06-17T20:33:06 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T20:34:02 < jadew> :) 2018-06-17T20:34:10 < jadew> stripe 2018-06-17T20:35:06 < Steffanx> Does stripe support paypal? 2018-06-17T20:35:16 < jadew> no, it's just for card payments 2018-06-17T20:41:25 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-17T20:45:35 < jadew> this is so fucking infurating 2018-06-17T20:48:35 < mawk> how am I supposed to solder stuff this small on the nucleo board 2018-06-17T20:48:45 < branjb> microscope 2018-06-17T20:48:50 < mawk> what kind of tooling is it 2018-06-17T20:48:50 < mawk> ah 2018-06-17T20:48:59 < mawk> I see 2018-06-17T20:49:10 < branjb> you'd be amazed at what you can solder by hand with a microscope and the right iron tip 2018-06-17T20:50:54 < Steffanx> Stuff on the nucleo isnt THAT small. 2018-06-17T20:52:19 < qyx> whasts on the nucleo what you need a microscope 2018-06-17T20:53:24 < qyx> those 0603 0R resistors are solderable by hand 2018-06-17T21:00:11 < Cracki> "need" is a special word. you don't "need" a lot of things, if you don't know how much easier your life could be with them. 2018-06-17T21:16:29 < mawk> yeah I'm talking about the 0Ω resistors 2018-06-17T21:16:33 < mawk> I have to remove some, add some 2018-06-17T21:16:54 < Steffanx> I'd just add a solder blob. 2018-06-17T21:16:59 < mawk> I guess for adding the 0Ω I can just make a solder bridge 2018-06-17T21:17:06 < mawk> but there are caps to add also 2018-06-17T21:18:01 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:cdef:a0c7:dff6:ba56] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T21:24:20 < jpa-> mawk: what you need is good tweezers 2018-06-17T21:24:24 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T21:25:15 < Steffanx> And coffee, or maybe no coffee, for steady hands. 2018-06-17T21:25:53 < ds2> good tweezers are hard to fine (at a reasonable price) 2018-06-17T21:28:44 < Cracki> you can buy a cheap dozen off amazon/aliex/... and there'll be acceptable ones among them 2018-06-17T21:29:17 < Cracki> and the crooked ones you can dremel straight 2018-06-17T21:29:47 < ds2> even that is a maybe... a lot of them come too stuff and are good at launching components 2018-06-17T21:29:49 < Cracki> usually the two sheets of metal are misaligned, or the tips aren't ground properly symmetrical 2018-06-17T21:29:53 < ds2> too stiff 2018-06-17T21:30:10 < ds2> alignment can be fixed, stiffness can't 2018-06-17T21:30:39 < Cracki> not sure how stiffness affects anything. I'm holding them with my fingers. 2018-06-17T21:30:55 < Cracki> sure if it's too stiff, I have no feeling in my finger tips 2018-06-17T21:31:15 < ds2> the stiffness makes you want to squeeze it harder 2018-06-17T21:31:25 < Cracki> rawr 2018-06-17T21:31:29 < ds2> which has the side effect of setting small parts up for launch 2018-06-17T21:31:42 < Cracki> skip the coffee then :> 2018-06-17T21:31:48 < ds2> the best one as the ones that are really loose and act like a finger extension 2018-06-17T21:32:48 < ds2> it isn't a shake, it is trying to get it to grip--- too little squeeze and the part falls out, too much and it flys off 2018-06-17T22:36:34 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T22:36:34 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-17T22:36:34 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T22:39:36 < vampi-the-frog> how would I go about wiring 8 or 12 of those OLED displays 2018-06-17T22:39:40 < vampi-the-frog> they come with I2C and SPI 2018-06-17T22:40:37 < Cracki> wat 2018-06-17T22:40:38 < vampi-the-frog> but I am not sure how I'd wire it up 2018-06-17T22:40:46 < Cracki> on the same bus? 2018-06-17T22:40:51 < Cracki> or what? 2018-06-17T22:41:20 < vampi-the-frog> on the same MCU 2018-06-17T22:41:31 < Cracki> if you don't have 8-12 chipselects, go with i2c 2018-06-17T22:41:39 < vampi-the-frog> ah chipselects 2018-06-17T22:41:42 < vampi-the-frog> those might work 2018-06-17T22:41:46 < Cracki> spi needs chipselects 2018-06-17T22:41:49 < vampi-the-frog> nice 2018-06-17T22:41:53 < Cracki> i2c doesn't 2018-06-17T22:42:13 < Cracki> but i2c is slower compared to spi 2018-06-17T22:42:26 < Cracki> so read the data shiets for max speed of either 2018-06-17T22:44:31 < Cracki> muh white supremacy https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/feminist-bookstore-closes-from-lack-of-sales-blames-white-men-not-crappy-books/ 2018-06-17T22:47:08 < vampi-the-frog> conservatism is on the rise 2018-06-17T22:47:17 < vampi-the-frog> thanks to the Great White Hope 2018-06-17T22:49:48 < Cracki> https://twitter.com/soccerdotcom/status/1007394598359130113 2018-06-17T22:50:35 < Cracki> (consider who spends money on a soccer jersey, who's gonna wear it) 2018-06-17T22:50:42 < Steffanx> Congratz with the loss Cracki 2018-06-17T22:51:27 < Cracki> meaning? 2018-06-17T22:51:45 < Steffanx> Germany - Mexico .. 2018-06-17T22:51:48 < Steffanx> 0 - 1 2018-06-17T22:52:07 < vampi-the-frog> germany is demoralized because of muslim invasion 2018-06-17T22:52:19 < vampi-the-frog> winning the game wouldn't drive out the muslims, so what's the point 2018-06-17T22:53:15 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T22:57:45 < Cracki> oh :P 2018-06-17T22:59:02 < Steffanx> vampi-the-frog. Let me post a quote of a certain person: "I feel like you're trying to be funny but the laughter isn't coming to me". :P 2018-06-17T22:59:12 < Steffanx> Ended with "so maybe try harder". 2018-06-17T22:59:25 < karlp> not funny vampi.png? 2018-06-17T22:59:33 < Cracki> look at the "german" players 2018-06-17T22:59:36 < Cracki> I'm rooting for iceland 2018-06-17T22:59:48 < karlp> spi doens't _neeeed_ chipselects 2018-06-17T23:00:00 < karlp> you can do addressing too 2018-06-17T23:00:14 < Cracki> yes, but I'm gonna assume that a display doesn't do that 2018-06-17T23:04:35 < Cracki> who knows, maybe it does... would save 8-12 chipselects ;) 2018-06-17T23:09:53 < vampi-the-frog> show me a photo of their team 2018-06-17T23:09:59 < Steffanx> i dont think itll come with 8-12 different addresses either, so you'll need some i2c multiplexer thingy. 2018-06-17T23:11:00 < vampi-the-frog> well I don't know how many addresses you can configure the display to use 2018-06-17T23:11:11 < vampi-the-frog> I think it has a switch that switches between 2 addresses 2018-06-17T23:11:21 < vampi-the-frog> but I might be confusing it with the 1602 LCD 2018-06-17T23:11:53 < vampi-the-frog> anyway, the chip select thing will be fine 2018-06-17T23:12:11 < Cracki> the only other i2c thingy I have experience with is a pwm controller, and it had 6 bits of address broken out 2018-06-17T23:18:51 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T23:19:12 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:cdef:a0c7:dff6:ba56] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-17T23:31:38 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-17T23:36:27 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T23:42:02 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-17T23:42:32 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-17T23:46:33 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Mon Jun 18 2018 2018-06-18T00:02:27 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-18T00:03:28 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-18T00:08:25 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T00:10:22 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T00:15:33 < karlp> Cracki: thanks for the support :) 2018-06-18T00:15:48 < bitmask> didnt have any room for the pen plotter so I figured why not hang it on the wall? :) https://i.imgur.com/BI1PGDg.png 2018-06-18T00:15:55 < Cracki> I said something? :> 2018-06-18T00:16:15 * karlp is from .is 2018-06-18T00:16:28 < Cracki> do you look like you're from .is? 2018-06-18T00:16:44 < Cracki> you know, volcanic and shit 2018-06-18T00:17:04 * karlp shrugs. perceptions of expected appearances are a pit of despair. 2018-06-18T00:17:08 < Cracki> :> 2018-06-18T00:19:39 < Cracki> but truly, iceland is such a barren place, only the fittest specimen thrive there 2018-06-18T00:20:28 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T00:21:28 < englishman> I've seen selfies of Karl, he looks exactly like the mountain, just slightly thinner 2018-06-18T00:22:12 < Cracki> that one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haf%C3%BE%C3%B3r_J%C3%BAl%C3%ADus_Bj%C3%B6rnsson#/media/File:Bj%C3%B6rnsson_Arnold_Classic_2017.jpg 2018-06-18T00:24:08 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T00:24:31 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-18T00:28:04 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T00:31:31 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117216.png 2018-06-18T00:32:02 < Laurenceb_> Trannies love him, and he loves them 2018-06-18T00:36:26 < stvn> who are these people meant to be? 2018-06-18T00:37:35 < kakimir> https://twitter.com/tpussr1917/status/1008060826148884481 2018-06-18T00:39:30 < Laurenceb_> Sargon and his harem 2018-06-18T00:40:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-11b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-18T00:40:57 < stvn> lol 2018-06-18T00:41:23 < Laurenceb_> ... of trannies 2018-06-18T00:43:13 < kakimir> how many years until you have saved money for your gender correction surgery Laurenceb_ ? 2018-06-18T00:43:24 < Laurenceb_> wut 2018-06-18T00:43:45 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-18T00:43:51 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T00:44:15 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T00:46:09 < stvn> chris 2018-06-18T00:48:05 < Steffanx> Peter 2018-06-18T00:49:58 < invzim> good job invzim, locking an empty OTP block.. 2018-06-18T00:52:42 < zyp> haha :) 2018-06-18T00:52:55 < Steffanx> Lol. 2018-06-18T00:53:49 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-18T00:54:51 < zyp> earlier this week I had 5-6 pending orders ready to ship, now I've packed 15 ready to drop off tomorrow morning 2018-06-18T00:55:08 < invzim> nice! 2018-06-18T00:55:17 < Cracki> the left can't meme 2018-06-18T00:56:00 < Cracki> tpusa is israeli-funded 2018-06-18T00:56:03 < zyp> I need around 7 orders to hit the minimum cost for this batch shipping thing 2018-06-18T00:56:15 < zyp> seems like I always either have not enough or twice as many pending orders as I need 2018-06-18T00:56:29 < Steffanx> Does laks does susped and resume (incl some low power) mode zyp? 2018-06-18T00:57:21 < Steffanx> Was wondering if you ever did that. The required < 2.5mA when suspended 2018-06-18T00:57:45 < zyp> no, I haven't had a need for that anywhere 2018-06-18T00:58:30 < zyp> the only event I care about is bus reset 2018-06-18T00:59:38 < Steffanx> I wonder how many devices actually do it. Probably just the usb compliant ones. But i wouldnt be surprised of some still violate it 2018-06-18T00:59:46 < Steffanx> If* 2018-06-18T01:00:16 < zyp> IIRC it's only required if you support wakeup 2018-06-18T01:00:30 < zyp> otherwise host can just kill the power to your port when it suspends 2018-06-18T01:00:40 < Steffanx> Hm 2018-06-18T01:01:59 < zyp> i.e. those 2.5 mA is for you to look at whatever wakeup condition you have and send a wakeup signal to the host 2018-06-18T01:02:50 < Steffanx> But the host can also make the device suspend and resume right? 2018-06-18T01:03:27 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117239.png 2018-06-18T01:03:28 < zyp> suspend is just defined as loss of three expected SOFs 2018-06-18T01:03:35 < zyp> i.e. no SOF for 3 ms or so 2018-06-18T01:03:43 < Steffanx> Yes. 3ms 2018-06-18T01:03:55 < Laurenceb_> I'm ebil, I didnt impliment proper suspend on muh audio class sensors 2018-06-18T01:05:05 < zyp> IIRC dumb devices can always draw one unit load (100 mA), so I'm pretty sure the 2.5 mA limit only applies if you claim you are wakeup capable, because that asks host to keep power on for you 2018-06-18T01:07:15 < zyp> hmm, I'm not completely correct 2018-06-18T01:07:29 < zyp> «Any device that draws power from the bus must be able to detect lack of activity on the bus, enter the Suspend state, and reduce its current consumption from VBUS» 2018-06-18T01:08:07 < zyp> «Low- power devices or high-power devices operating at low-power are limited to 500 μA of suspend current. If the device is configured for high-power and enabled as a remote wakeup source, it may draw up to 2.5 mA during suspend.» 2018-06-18T01:08:28 < zyp> so remote wakeup gives you 2.5 mA, otherwise 0.5 mA 2018-06-18T01:09:09 < zyp> « 2018-06-18T01:09:10 < zyp> While in the Suspend state, a device may briefly draw more than the average current. The amplitude of the current spike cannot exceed the device power allocation 100 mA (or 500 mA). A maximum of 1.0 second is allowed for an averaging interval.» 2018-06-18T01:09:40 < Steffanx> You quote this from where? 2018-06-18T01:09:51 < zyp> chapter 7 in the usb2 spec 2018-06-18T01:10:02 < zyp> 7.2.1 and 7.2.3 2018-06-18T01:10:52 < zyp> in other words, you can draw at least up to 100mA for a few ms, as long as you average less than 0.5 mA over a second 2018-06-18T01:11:10 < zyp> that'll give you enough time to start up, figure out that the host is suspended and go to sleep 2018-06-18T01:12:18 < Steffanx> Hm 2018-06-18T01:12:48 < Steffanx> Will read the spec tomorrow (or actually later today). Sleepy time 2018-06-18T01:13:01 < zyp> are you making anything where suspend/resume support is essential? 2018-06-18T01:13:38 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T01:13:53 < Steffanx> Not really. Device isnt really going to be tested/compliant. 2018-06-18T01:14:12 < zyp> are you gonna use it with a laptop or anything? 2018-06-18T01:14:33 < zyp> where no suspend support may be directly detrimental to battery consumption when host is asleep 2018-06-18T01:14:39 < Steffanx> Unlikely. But i wouldnt say it will never happen 2018-06-18T01:14:59 < zyp> then it doesn't sound like it's worth spending a lot of time worrying about 2018-06-18T01:15:42 < Steffanx> Itll be pretty low anyway. < 10mA for sure 2018-06-18T01:15:55 < Steffanx> Perhals closer to 5 2018-06-18T01:18:22 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-18T01:19:07 < bitmask> alright, I have a cube project that works and a stdperiph that almost works, whats the best way to figure out whats going wrong? its for spi slave communication so should I check the registers while its running or go through the hal functions that get called and see what im not setting up 2018-06-18T01:23:36 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-18T01:29:09 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-18T01:34:35 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T01:34:35 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@78-60-200-125.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-18T01:34:35 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T01:57:35 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T02:04:28 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T02:18:33 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T02:32:08 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T02:39:14 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T03:10:12 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 2018-06-18T03:25:54 < Laurenceb_> S A R G O N 2018-06-18T03:28:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T03:30:25 < Laurenceb_> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117254.jpg 2018-06-18T03:30:35 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T03:42:47 * Laurenceb_ has been busy https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117255.png 2018-06-18T03:46:35 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T03:53:42 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-18T04:05:08 < dongs> so how does LPC4357 debugging looks ilke wiht M4 and M0 cores? 2018-06-18T04:05:13 < dongs> does it do multidrop swd or something? 2018-06-18T04:05:18 < dongs> or can you only see M0 core via jtag?> 2018-06-18T04:16:03 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T04:19:26 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T04:23:46 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A325E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-18T04:46:54 < aandrew> not stm32, don't care 2018-06-18T04:56:24 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T04:56:30 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T05:10:58 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-18T05:11:00 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T05:14:36 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T05:15:53 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T05:18:10 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T05:41:52 < stvn> lol 2018-06-18T05:47:43 < dongs> faggot 2018-06-18T06:01:42 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-18T06:04:04 < dongs> gawd this lpc shit is a fucking mess 2018-06-18T06:04:14 < dongs> apparently theres some room bootcode that always runs 2018-06-18T06:04:18 < dongs> before your actual code 2018-06-18T06:04:22 < dongs> sounds like fucking DRM filth 2018-06-18T06:06:47 < dongs> oh my shitcopter is here attn @zyp 2018-06-18T06:11:45 < bitmask> zano? 2018-06-18T06:12:06 < bitmask> :) 2018-06-18T06:12:51 < dongs> ya 2018-06-18T06:13:15 < dongs> chargin it 2018-06-18T06:13:19 < dongs> need to find whatever dumbv chinaapp 2018-06-18T06:17:50 < bitmask> ugh, I gotta get ahead of my school work so that I'm not always trying to get shit in at the last second 2018-06-18T06:19:07 < bitmask> two papers due in 40 min and I'm only halfway done with one of em, one will have to wait until tomorrow 2018-06-18T06:32:52 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T06:44:10 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-18T06:44:38 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T07:08:00 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-18T07:11:19 < dongs> pumping 2018-06-18T07:11:29 < dongs> pumping 4 lpc 2018-06-18T07:12:13 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T07:16:52 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-18T07:17:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T07:18:41 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T07:19:44 < stvn> i've been pumping too 2018-06-18T07:24:59 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-18T07:25:03 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T07:49:58 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T07:58:16 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T08:01:05 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T08:01:08 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-18T08:06:55 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-18T08:13:23 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-18T08:34:58 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T08:37:14 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T08:47:22 < stvn> stm32 2018-06-18T08:58:16 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T08:59:24 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-18T09:20:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-70e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T09:30:21 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T09:31:02 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T09:43:27 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T09:50:05 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-18T10:02:10 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T10:02:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-70e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T10:32:56 < jadew> my paypal limitation got removed 2018-06-18T10:33:07 < jadew> I got another email today saying the address didn't match 2018-06-18T10:33:28 < jadew> called them again and luckily I got to talk to someone from the UK this time 2018-06-18T10:33:43 < jadew> told him what happened and he said everything looks fine 2018-06-18T10:34:09 < jadew> that, after my proof of identity/address got rejected twice 2018-06-18T10:34:30 < jadew> and I kept having stupid conversations with them over email 2018-06-18T10:34:54 < jadew> in which they were basically sending me scripted stuff, except for the last one, which looked like a pissed of indian, cuz he didn't even sign it 2018-06-18T10:35:41 < stvn> direct injection 2018-06-18T10:35:53 < dongs> buttcoin 2018-06-18T10:36:05 < jadew> ah, nvm, the rant from the indian was at the top, it was signed in the copy paste part of the message 2018-06-18T10:36:12 < jadew> but they only sign with first name 2018-06-18T10:36:17 < jadew> and it's always a different guy 2018-06-18T10:36:53 -!- fc5dc9d4_ is now known as fc5dc9d4 2018-06-18T10:36:54 < jadew> I remember reading that bitcoin is not anonymous? 2018-06-18T10:37:34 < dongs> im obviously trolling you fucking doorknob 2018-06-18T10:37:47 < dongs> here's how to stay in goot terms with paypal: don't fucking use it for shady shit 2018-06-18T10:38:05 < jadew> I didn't use it for anything shady 2018-06-18T10:38:09 < jadew> I sold a website 2018-06-18T10:38:29 < jadew> haha 2018-06-18T10:39:36 < jadew> I used to do that 2018-06-18T10:39:37 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T10:39:56 < jadew> in a 3 months period I put about 6 kg on 2018-06-18T10:40:39 < jadew> that's what I thought 2018-06-18T10:41:01 < jadew> could have started jogging or something, but I decided it's easier to quit beer 2018-06-18T10:41:09 < jadew> regular beer that is 2018-06-18T10:43:37 < stvn> maybe once a fortnight at this stage 2018-06-18T10:43:42 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T10:44:04 < stvn> and that means any alcohol 2018-06-18T10:50:41 < Steffanx> Lol never heard of the term "fortnight" 2018-06-18T10:51:56 < stvn> aussies are so fried they need 14 days for a week 2018-06-18T10:52:09 < Steffanx> I bet he meant fortnite. Which he plays daily 2018-06-18T10:52:29 < stvn> oh yeah that's the game people are sperging out over 2018-06-18T11:00:14 < stvn> lol 2018-06-18T11:05:26 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T11:06:16 < dongs> i'll wait until its on sale 2018-06-18T11:06:17 < dongs> for $0 2018-06-18T11:10:25 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@ip5b437013.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:18:09 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:20:08 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T11:20:25 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:22:05 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T11:24:11 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T11:26:15 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:26:51 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T11:29:07 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T11:30:11 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:34:33 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T11:37:11 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T11:38:17 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:40:53 -!- PeterM [~androirc@1.129.111.130] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:42:45 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-18T11:44:29 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: i always measure my speeds in furlongs/fortnights 2018-06-18T11:47:44 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:49:33 < PeterM> I wonder if in the uk there ever was an issue with pound as a unit of currency and unit of weight. Go the the butcher, ask to buy a pound of ham. Does he want £1 of ham or 1lb? 2018-06-18T11:49:52 < dongs> pound me too 2018-06-18T11:50:18 < PeterM> Sup dongs 2018-06-18T11:50:42 < PeterM> Have you used https://www.digikey.com.au/product-detail/en/jae-electronics/WP10-P004VA10-R15000/670-2961-1-ND/6594837 or similar in anything? 2018-06-18T11:50:59 < dongs> nice socket 2018-06-18T11:51:52 < dongs> ive used something similar from uh..... kyocera 2018-06-18T11:52:02 < dongs> where there's fine pitch on the center and bigger pads on corners for current 2018-06-18T11:52:20 < dongs> wahtcha innovating 2018-06-18T11:52:35 < PeterM> I know right, im looking for a connector to use on pcb & ffc for really tiny linear actuators 2018-06-18T11:52:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T11:53:04 < PeterM> A flech light for r2com 2018-06-18T11:53:08 < PeterM> Flesh even 2018-06-18T11:54:28 < stvn> lol 2018-06-18T11:54:56 < BrainDamage> what do you use for nanometer-sized actuation? 2018-06-18T11:55:08 < stvn> muh dick 2018-06-18T11:55:22 < PeterM> Tiny levers with sapphire bearings 2018-06-18T11:55:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-18T11:55:31 < PeterM> Like in watches 2018-06-18T11:57:18 < PeterM> But in all seriousness its just boring shit, some university students came to me with money to waste 2018-06-18T11:58:22 < PeterM> Dongs have any issues with them? Theyre rated for stupid high current and i doubt theyd carry it 2018-06-18T12:03:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T12:09:55 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T12:12:16 -!- PeterM [~androirc@1.129.111.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T12:15:20 -!- PeterM [~androirc@1.129.111.130] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T12:31:42 < dongs> PeterM: no, i think it will work fine. those are designed for usb charge current on phones and shit 2018-06-18T12:31:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-18T12:31:53 < dongs> i think the shit i used was like 3A@5V or someshit 2018-06-18T12:32:18 < dongs> 0.5A/contact (at 0.3mm pitch) 2018-06-18T12:32:23 < dongs> 3A/metal tab 2018-06-18T12:32:29 < dongs> rated voltage; 60V/contact 2018-06-18T12:37:42 < PeterM> Yeah, the ones i linked are 50v/5a contact, 4 contacts so 10a pwr and gnd 2018-06-18T12:38:38 < PeterM> But i wonder how much that is "ideal situation" 2018-06-18T12:39:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T12:42:26 < zyp> datasheet doesn't have any temp derating specs? 2018-06-18T12:43:33 < zyp> after all, the limiting factor is how much current you can run through it before it heats up too much and melts 2018-06-18T12:51:40 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Quit: Quit] 2018-06-18T12:51:41 -!- PeterM [~androirc@1.129.111.130] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T12:52:01 -!- PeterM [~androirc@137.154.28.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T12:54:00 -!- PeterM [~androirc@137.154.28.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T13:09:47 -!- PeterM [~androirc@137.154.28.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T13:26:02 < dongs> mine says -55 t o 85C 2018-06-18T13:54:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-18T14:30:32 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxyuqdjtolfqywrn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T14:32:30 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T14:36:08 < veverak> ok 2018-06-18T14:36:25 < veverak> got a stm32 with FreeRTOS (generated by hal), attached to openocd and gdb 2018-06-18T14:36:33 < veverak> (generated by cubemx)* 2018-06-18T14:36:47 < veverak> I enabled freertos support for openocd -> how to start the code in gdb? 2018-06-18T14:37:26 < veverak> load & continue (using for apps without freertos) -> continue throws 'cannot execute this command without a live selected thread' (there are no threads) 2018-06-18T14:37:50 < veverak> load & run/start -> The program being debugged has been started already | Start it from the beginning? (y or n) y | Can't kill process 2018-06-18T14:37:57 < veverak> I feel like I am just missing proper commands here 2018-06-18T14:38:41 < karlp> connect with "target ext :3333" instead of "target :3333" 2018-06-18T14:41:51 < veverak> nope, does not really help 2018-06-18T14:42:06 < veverak> I still can't figure out proper way to load new code and than execute 2018-06-18T14:42:09 < veverak> it 2018-06-18T14:42:23 < zyp> what karlp said 2018-06-18T14:42:25 < karlp> tar ext :333 && load && run works for me. 2018-06-18T14:42:33 < veverak> interesting 2018-06-18T14:43:15 < zyp> either that or your openocd build is fucked up 2018-06-18T14:43:32 < veverak> I see 2018-06-18T14:43:39 < veverak> zyp: that is possible, definetly 2018-06-18T14:43:54 < zyp> in that case, try installing a non-fucked up build 2018-06-18T14:48:38 < veverak> hmm 2018-06-18T14:50:33 < jpa-> try disabling the freertos thread stuff in openocd? 2018-06-18T14:50:51 < veverak> well, complete problem description is handy propably 2018-06-18T14:51:27 < jpa-> (if you have enabled it, that is) 2018-06-18T14:52:27 < veverak> I have freertos single thread (for now) app on the stm32, that does i2c communication, it uses HAl_Transmit_IT()/Recv... after that thread goes to sleep and is woken up by HAl's interrupt callbacks for i2c 2018-06-18T14:53:03 < veverak> it communicates as master and this worked for sensors 2018-06-18T14:53:26 < veverak> now, I am implementing custom sensor (which is also stm32, as slave), with which this master stm32 simply blocks 2018-06-18T14:53:46 < veverak> I want to investigate why it is blocked 2018-06-18T14:54:01 < veverak> and of course, the thread doing the code is sleeping, so I want to investigate what happend 2018-06-18T14:54:09 < veverak> jpa-: I believe for that I need thread support for gdb 2018-06-18T14:54:42 < jpa-> true, you'd probably want it 2018-06-18T14:54:45 < PaulFertser> veverak: have you tried "i thr" and then selecting one with "thr 1" or some such? 2018-06-18T14:55:20 < veverak> when I run the master in thread mode, it starts itself 2018-06-18T14:55:36 < veverak> it's working, once it blocks on i2c com, I "ctrl+c" the 'run' command 2018-06-18T14:55:39 < veverak> and the thread is lost 2018-06-18T14:55:48 < veverak> (not present in 'i thr') 2018-06-18T14:56:09 < veverak> hmm, that sounds like something bad happend, come to think of it 2018-06-18T15:05:23 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T15:06:00 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@174.138.10.51] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T15:06:38 -!- Hamilton [~Hamilton@174.138.10.51] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T15:09:16 < veverak> I believe I am still doing something wrong, OpenOCD is running, GDB is running, I connect to the ocd with "tar ext :3333", issue load, 'monitor reset halt', than 'r' and it works 2018-06-18T15:09:53 < veverak> than the error I am debugging happens, 'ctrl + c' is hanging... Interrupted while waiting for the program. | Give up waiting? (y or n) y 2018-06-18T15:10:14 < veverak> than I am not able to "load, monitor reset halt, run" again and have to kill 'gdb' and start again 2018-06-18T15:11:20 < veverak> hmhmmm, "monitor reset run" did the trick? 2018-06-18T15:13:25 < karlp> ctrl-c hanging is probably: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded/+bug/1594341 2018-06-18T15:13:38 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T15:13:38 < karlp> dont' think that fixed release is in any binary release distro yet. 2018-06-18T15:14:07 < karlp> you do tar ext :3333 && continue && ctrl-c and then you're back in "normal" land. 2018-06-18T15:14:22 < veverak> I see, thanks 2018-06-18T15:15:52 < veverak> aaaaaaand my thread is in #0 Reset_Handler () at startup_stm32l432xx.s:79 2018-06-18T15:15:58 < veverak> well, let's continue debugging shall we 2018-06-18T15:16:00 < veverak> karlp: thanks a lot 2018-06-18T15:26:01 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6818:556a:b1be:cb52:d0c0:e307] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T15:26:27 < karlp> np 2018-06-18T15:26:51 < karlp> once you'ðve done that initial "continue" you can just use load/run/ctrl-c as normal. 2018-06-18T15:28:50 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T15:41:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T15:44:17 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T15:44:21 < veverak> thanks :) 2018-06-18T15:44:29 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T15:46:01 < veverak> P.S: yup, missing callback for MemRead/MemWrite 2018-06-18T15:46:12 < veverak> now my master does not block itself! 2018-06-18T15:47:53 -!- c10ud^ [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T15:48:17 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T15:48:28 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T15:50:06 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-18T15:55:20 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T16:07:49 < jpa-> https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Multilayer-CPW-Fed-Patch-Antenna-on-New-AMC-Ground-Ali-Chang/70e373de0d8ff7005d28c557efdbf8274e7bd873/figure/1 2018-06-18T16:10:25 < dongs> lmao 2018-06-18T16:13:41 < englishman> highly effective 2018-06-18T16:14:43 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T16:15:02 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T16:15:19 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T16:15:35 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T16:15:37 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T16:16:40 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T16:18:42 * karlp laughs 2018-06-18T16:25:25 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T16:25:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T16:31:40 < dongs> upgrdman missed it 2018-06-18T16:32:46 < upgrdman> wut 2018-06-18T16:33:23 < dongs> https://goo.gl/2xXYHb this link 2018-06-18T16:33:26 < dongs> from jpa- 2018-06-18T16:33:54 < dongs> Starting March 30, 2018, we will be turning down support for goo.gl URL shortener. From April 13, 2018 only existing users will be able to create short links on the goo.gl console. You will be able to view your analytics data and download your short link information in csv format for up to one year, until March 30, 2019, when we will discontinue goo.gl. Previously created links will continue to redirect to their intended destination. Please see this blog post for mor 2018-06-18T16:34:02 < dongs> ha ha ha 2018-06-18T16:34:02 < dongs> yet another google service going away 2018-06-18T16:34:05 < dongs> who would have thought 2018-06-18T16:38:34 < englishman> amp isn't going anywhere 2018-06-18T16:46:31 < PeterM> The fuck would you get rid of goo.gl? 2018-06-18T16:54:20 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-95-223-40-64.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.6 - http://znc.in] 2018-06-18T17:00:23 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-95-223-40-64.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T17:05:48 < dongs> PeterM: https://developers.googleblog.com/2018/03/transitioning-google-url-shortener.html 2018-06-18T17:05:51 < dongs> no fucking idea 2018-06-18T17:05:53 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T17:06:24 -!- PeterM [~androirc@137.154.28.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T17:08:43 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-95-223-40-64.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T17:14:35 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T17:16:20 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-95-223-40-64.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T17:18:28 -!- PeterM [~androirc@137.154.28.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T17:25:11 < dongs> PeterM: https://developers.googleblog.com/2018/03/transitioning-google-url-shortener.html 2018-06-18T17:26:26 < mawk> what's the point of eeprom when you have flash memory ? 2018-06-18T17:26:47 < jpa-> mawk: eeprom can be rewritten in smaller increments (often 1 byte at a time) 2018-06-18T17:26:59 < mawk> I see 2018-06-18T17:27:18 < mawk> and slightly related, the point of EPROM when you have EEPROM and flash memory ? 2018-06-18T17:27:50 < mawk> given the pain it is to rewrite that 2018-06-18T17:28:21 < dongs> wut is eprom 2018-06-18T17:28:33 < dongs> you mean the shit with a glass window in DIP package? 2018-06-18T17:28:45 < dongs> in which case why the fuck do you still hve that on board 2018-06-18T17:29:01 < mawk> yes that 2018-06-18T17:29:19 < dongs> pretty sure eprom was made in same footprint/pinout as mask rom 2018-06-18T17:29:31 < mawk> I saw a box of these at my school, UV-erasable EPROMs 2018-06-18T17:29:34 < mawk> brand new 2018-06-18T17:29:41 < dongs> no they werent 2018-06-18T17:29:54 < mawk> they were in their plastic bags, unopened 2018-06-18T17:30:09 < zyp> more like new old stock 2018-06-18T17:31:31 < dongs> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/stmicroelectronics/M27C512-90F1/M27C512-90F1-ND/1663719 2018-06-18T17:31:40 < dongs> every UV-eprom on digikey is marked obsolete 2018-06-18T17:31:45 < dongs> and not in stock 2018-06-18T17:33:04 < mawk> the ones I saw were HN27C101AG-12 from Hitachi 2018-06-18T17:33:05 < mawk> http://www.digipart.com/part/HN27C101AG-12 2018-06-18T17:33:28 < mawk> so these are very old stuff 2018-06-18T17:33:31 < mawk> I can throw them away 2018-06-18T17:33:39 < mawk> alongside with the collection of broken Wifi B routers 2018-06-18T17:34:03 < mawk> and 60 GiB hard drives 2018-06-18T17:34:26 < dongs> 60GiB is pretty new 2018-06-18T17:34:34 < mawk> not SSD 2018-06-18T17:34:35 < dongs> i have some < 1gb hdds in the pile of trash somewhere 2018-06-18T17:34:35 < mawk> I mean 2018-06-18T17:34:37 < mawk> ah 2018-06-18T17:34:53 < mawk> nice 2018-06-18T17:35:09 < zyp> 60GB is like 15 years ago 2018-06-18T17:35:22 * karlp tossed all the old shit like that when we cleaned up after my father died. 2018-06-18T17:36:03 < emeryth> karlp: did you check them for bitcoins first? 2018-06-18T17:36:12 < dongs> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015T0YFHE 2018-06-18T17:36:28 < mawk> lol 2018-06-18T17:36:29 < dongs> 5V 450mA, 12V 220mA 2018-06-18T17:36:32 < mawk> $140 2018-06-18T17:36:37 < dongs> mm thats actually better than most drives t hese days 2018-06-18T17:36:52 < karlp> emeryth: no, they predated bitcoin, and what you don't know about isn't lost. 2018-06-18T17:36:56 < dongs> thats like barely 5W 2018-06-18T17:36:59 < zyp> not if you consider watts per byte 2018-06-18T17:37:15 < dongs> well yeha 2018-06-18T17:37:28 < dongs> this 2242 64gb ssd I got was 3.3V@1.5A 2018-06-18T17:48:10 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6818:556a:b1be:cb52:d0c0:e307] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T17:49:30 -!- enh [~enhering@177.79.63.198] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T17:51:12 -!- enh [~enhering@177.79.63.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T17:51:13 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-18T17:55:47 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T18:00:15 < englishman> CHIPONESTOP has stock of HN27C101AG-12 2018-06-18T18:00:25 < englishman> japs have all that old trash 2018-06-18T18:00:38 < mawk> in the link I gave there's all kind of websites that have it in stock yeah 2018-06-18T18:00:49 < mawk> I didn't know that it was an UV-EPROM but it was pretty so I took it 2018-06-18T18:01:10 < mawk> with iridescent colors 2018-06-18T18:01:19 < englishman> you know those pictures of akihabara market from like 1997 where there's pth resistors and shit all for sale 2018-06-18T18:01:33 < englishman> apparently it has not changed and you could take identical photos today 2018-06-18T18:01:40 < englishman> they have arduino now tho 2018-06-18T18:01:49 < mawk> a trip there would be nice 2018-06-18T18:01:51 < zyp> discovery boards too 2018-06-18T18:01:59 < zyp> I bought some of my discovery boards in akihabara 2018-06-18T18:02:39 < Laurenceb> sup 2018-06-18T18:10:16 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-18T18:10:56 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2018-06-18T18:12:12 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T18:17:38 < englishman> i need to order $15 in parts from digikey 2018-06-18T18:17:44 < englishman> what should i stuff the cart with 2018-06-18T18:17:55 < Laurenceb> dragon dildos 2018-06-18T18:18:11 < Cracki> opamps 2018-06-18T18:18:12 < englishman> 1488-666-ND 2018-06-18T18:18:21 < Cracki> a ton of 18650 2018-06-18T18:18:22 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-18T18:18:29 < Cracki> good part no 2018-06-18T18:18:31 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/x5UU6YK 2018-06-18T18:18:36 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-18T18:18:48 < Cracki> trololo 2018-06-18T18:19:14 < day> englishman: what a question. 555's. As many as the shopping cart can handle 2018-06-18T18:19:41 < Cracki> they're gonna bust that party and then mosley comes back from the dead 2018-06-18T18:20:07 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/WbWqc24 2018-06-18T18:20:09 < Cracki> jumper wires. heaps of them. 2018-06-18T18:20:14 < Laurenceb> that escalated quickly 2018-06-18T18:20:25 < Cracki> some nice electronics flux gel 2018-06-18T18:22:44 < englishman> oh maybe some nice wire yeah 2018-06-18T18:23:00 < englishman> or pcb clamps 2018-06-18T18:23:16 < Cracki> pcb vise or something comparable 2018-06-18T18:23:22 < Cracki> or a surgery kit 2018-06-18T18:23:29 < englishman> i got a cheap plastic one from them that was ok 2018-06-18T18:23:39 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/5hJPPd8 the memes 2018-06-18T18:24:06 < Cracki> indonesia 2018-06-18T18:24:07 < Laurenceb> drink da bleach 2018-06-18T18:24:21 < Cracki> not quite throwing gays off rooftops but close 2018-06-18T18:24:40 < Cracki> this is why we need #alt... 2018-06-18T18:24:43 < mawk> nice, there's a cubeMX update 2018-06-18T18:24:51 < mawk> it fixed the broken makefile generation, and added some features apparently 2018-06-18T18:24:59 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T18:25:21 < englishman> that panavise shit is spendy 2018-06-18T18:25:23 < mawk> the generated makefile has a much more sane structure 2018-06-18T18:26:18 < Cracki> make your own vise. print some parts, get metal rods from the hw store. 2018-06-18T18:26:24 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B081E86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T18:27:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-18T18:28:18 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/8o1RUzf 2018-06-18T18:29:58 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-18T18:30:04 < Cracki> ugh molotov cocktail throwers 2018-06-18T18:30:52 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T18:31:08 < karlp> where's all the pixels? 2018-06-18T18:36:51 < englishman> added some spade connectors and a 9v battery and im up to $29 2018-06-18T18:37:51 < Cracki> what's the 9v for? multimeter? 2018-06-18T18:37:57 < Cracki> smoke alarm? 2018-06-18T18:38:13 < BrainDamage> add sma connectors 2018-06-18T18:38:13 < englishman> i left my ballistic chronometer on and it ran down the battery 2018-06-18T18:39:31 < englishman> no i have big bags of sma 2018-06-18T18:39:39 < englishman> far too expensive at digijew 2018-06-18T18:40:43 < englishman> After doing 500 units of my project with my Pick-and-Place machine, I realized that the SMT assembly might not be for me! 2018-06-18T18:41:03 < englishman> As you told me, everything is in the application of the paste and considering the cost of the machine vs the use it will get, I will possibly sell it. 2018-06-18T18:41:12 < englishman> For you, I ask for $ 4700 with several rolls of components. 2018-06-18T18:41:12 < Ultrasauce> 8 plutoSDRs left in stock englishman 2018-06-18T18:41:28 < englishman> why would he do this 2018-06-18T18:41:45 < englishman> why would i need a second, awful and shitty dicknplace 2018-06-18T18:42:08 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T18:42:17 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-18T18:42:43 < Ultrasauce> if one of those rolls is 100nF you've struck gold 2018-06-18T18:42:52 < Cracki> who's trying to sell you his defiled pnp? 2018-06-18T18:43:16 < englishman> local guy that turned down an $800 assembly bill and instead bought some chinese benchtop dicknplace to make tarduino headtrackers 2018-06-18T18:43:21 < Cracki> hah 2018-06-18T18:43:32 < Cracki> I know the type 2018-06-18T18:43:42 < Cracki> theyt have no clue how much babysitting these things need 2018-06-18T18:43:46 < Ultrasauce> was it for a kickstarter? 2018-06-18T18:43:50 < englishman> yes 2018-06-18T18:43:53 < Ultrasauce> excellent 2018-06-18T18:43:58 < Cracki> and how much you have to dick around if you don't have whole reels 2018-06-18T18:44:29 < englishman> idk on 4/8mm tapes i can just rip off 4-5 components and they are ready to go 2018-06-18T18:44:35 < englishman> 12mm and up i dont lose any parts at all 2018-06-18T18:47:14 < Cracki> the chinese pnp I had to operate 2 years ago demanded to roll up the transparent cover tape, so I had to fiddle half a meter of it through the machine 2018-06-18T18:47:26 < englishman> the neoden 2018-06-18T18:47:27 < englishman> yes 2018-06-18T18:47:32 < englishman> i avoided that trash 2018-06-18T18:47:38 < Laurenceb> lel dramaz https://twitter.com/OreEliza/status/1006510185249206278 2018-06-18T18:47:39 < englishman> however you can also get cover tape extenders 2018-06-18T18:47:49 < Cracki> not sure if it's a neoden, was a different manufactuerer altogether 2018-06-18T18:47:50 < englishman> its like $3/1000 2018-06-18T18:48:23 < Cracki> ya we extended the cover from used reels, with some 5mm tape 2018-06-18T18:48:27 < Cracki> (sticky) 2018-06-18T18:49:00 < Cracki> chm 48 something 2018-06-18T18:49:24 < Cracki> xy gantry with whopping steppers and insanely short acceleration ramps 2018-06-18T18:49:49 < englishman> oh charmhigh 2018-06-18T18:49:59 < englishman> benchtop? 2018-06-18T18:50:28 < englishman> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Charmhigh-CMHT48VA-Pick-and-Place-Machine-Full-Automatic-Chip-Mounter-with-Vision-System-English-Version-110v/32502909690.html 2018-06-18T18:50:45 < Cracki> Laurenceb, lel that story must be fake 2018-06-18T18:50:54 < Cracki> charmhigh yes 2018-06-18T18:50:59 < karlp> or just missing all the context... 2018-06-18T18:51:00 < Laurenceb> Cracki: why ar ethere police right in front of him./.. 2018-06-18T18:51:03 < Cracki> benchtop with embedded computer, no ext 2018-06-18T18:51:18 < Cracki> the B variant, both sides reeled 2018-06-18T18:51:25 < Cracki> the software was such shit... 2018-06-18T18:51:35 < Cracki> if you entered the wrong value, the tables got fucked 2018-06-18T18:52:31 < Cracki> the affine calibration transform could get fucked numerically (similar to gimbal stuff), no amount of recalibrating against fidus helped, then you had to delete the file 2018-06-18T18:53:16 < Cracki> fixed or bad automatic threshold for component bottom segmentation... 2018-06-18T18:53:44 < Cracki> often it didn't see one side of a QF* and would misplace it 2018-06-18T18:54:10 < Cracki> see=recognize the legs to be legs 2018-06-18T18:54:18 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/dQGTfnK 2018-06-18T18:54:28 < Cracki> if the shop had the time, I would have replaced the whole software part of that machine 2018-06-18T18:54:48 < Cracki> oy 2018-06-18T18:56:35 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/k6ls8Qc 2018-06-18T18:57:38 < Cracki> horseshit theory 2018-06-18T18:59:13 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-18T19:00:26 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T19:00:28 < Laurenceb> https://imgur.com/zvZHnOW 2018-06-18T19:00:30 < Laurenceb> kekkd 2018-06-18T19:04:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T19:04:38 < Cracki> that's cute 2018-06-18T19:05:07 < englishman> fucking samtec 2018-06-18T19:05:26 < Cracki> apropos cute if cute, creepy if ugly... flirting is raep, say 70% of some demographic 2018-06-18T19:13:35 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T19:13:43 < Laurenceb> Danielle Brown, chief diversity and inclusion officer at Google 2018-06-18T19:14:02 < Laurenceb> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism 2018-06-18T19:16:25 < karlp> PLZ STAHP 2018-06-18T19:16:34 < Laurenceb> sorry 2018-06-18T19:16:43 < Laurenceb> enough shitposting 2018-06-18T19:28:37 < Steffanx> I like ARROW englishman. They delivered before the estimated delivery time 2018-06-18T19:28:40 < Steffanx> all the packages. 2018-06-18T19:29:30 < englishman> ARROW delivered a single PIC18F26K22 3 weeks after i built and delivered the project 2018-06-18T19:29:45 < Steffanx> D:. 2018-06-18T19:29:57 < Steffanx> I also like how the packaging costs more than the product itself 2018-06-18T19:30:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T19:37:16 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-18T19:37:30 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-18T19:39:09 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T19:53:35 -!- PeterM [~androirc@137.154.28.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T19:59:44 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T20:05:10 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-18T20:07:06 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T20:09:52 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:a59d:e53c:993b:1f77] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T20:22:18 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T20:30:21 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T20:35:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T20:40:46 < Laurenceb> https://www.rt.com/uk/430113-man-stabbed-death-teesside/ 2018-06-18T20:44:54 < Cracki> deserved. 2018-06-18T20:45:21 < Cracki> >woundS 2018-06-18T20:45:37 < Cracki> would one not stop after the first bloody stab? 2018-06-18T20:47:09 < Cracki> ah, incompetent "journalist" 2018-06-18T20:48:17 < Steffanx> [18:16:34] sorry 2018-06-18T20:48:17 < Steffanx> [18:16:43] enough shitposting 2018-06-18T20:50:25 < Laurenceb> shit is there a ball kicking thing? 2018-06-18T20:50:29 < Laurenceb> I can here chanting 2018-06-18T20:50:42 < Laurenceb> *hear 2018-06-18T20:50:43 < Cracki> could be prayer time 2018-06-18T20:50:47 < Laurenceb> probably 2018-06-18T20:51:15 < Laurenceb> ah in a few minutes 2018-06-18T20:52:00 < Laurenceb> accurate https://imgur.com/vY2DufS 2018-06-18T20:52:48 < Cracki> uk vs tuna people 2018-06-18T20:55:59 < Laurenceb> If he scores another few then I'll be muslim too! 2018-06-18T20:56:38 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Js5Fr7VR4 2018-06-18T20:57:56 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@cca100-pool11.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2018-06-18T21:00:21 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/gallery/zePULU9 2018-06-18T21:16:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T21:23:43 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-18T21:26:47 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T21:30:25 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-18T21:40:58 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T21:48:58 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T21:49:17 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T22:18:10 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnJBMYC8ReA test pilot job is interesting 2018-06-18T22:20:23 < englishman> https://i.imgur.com/hcd8bqD.png 2018-06-18T22:20:24 < englishman> oops 2018-06-18T22:29:06 < Steffanx> i blame the 90 degrees corner. 2018-06-18T22:39:25 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T22:39:25 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-18T22:39:25 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T22:39:42 < BrainDamage> ground effect is a bitch 2018-06-18T22:40:06 < BrainDamage> also, did they watch star wars before designing that plane? 2018-06-18T22:50:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9ce3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T22:50:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T22:55:15 < Steffanx> What kind of terrible star wars reference is this BrainDamage? 2018-06-18T22:55:48 < BrainDamage> X-wings 2018-06-18T22:55:57 < BrainDamage> https://overmental.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/X-wing_2_Fathead.png 2018-06-18T23:00:15 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dxyuqdjtolfqywrn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-18T23:02:27 < kakimir> one morning I woke up and realized that my person is actually a social construct 2018-06-18T23:02:46 < BrainDamage> as opposed to anyone else's ? 2018-06-18T23:03:18 -!- nn777 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T23:03:53 < kakimir> as opposed to what is concidered sociopath or psycopath 2018-06-18T23:05:06 < BrainDamage> that's ok, there's always memes and internet circlejerking to express your inner sociopath 2018-06-18T23:05:26 < kakimir> my person is not actually me - it's an interface 2018-06-18T23:05:43 < kakimir> mainly build by others 2018-06-18T23:05:57 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-18T23:06:02 < BrainDamage> you might want to read kafka 2018-06-18T23:06:22 < kakimir> I have heard about kafka but I don't know what it is 2018-06-18T23:06:38 < BrainDamage> it's a writer 2018-06-18T23:06:50 < BrainDamage> he elaborated a lot on the concept of masks 2018-06-18T23:07:09 < BrainDamage> he considers the innert personality your true self, and what you wear to interface with the society is a mask 2018-06-18T23:07:18 < BrainDamage> and depending on the occasion, you change your mask 2018-06-18T23:07:54 < BrainDamage> the elaboration on that is the concept of the ubermensch by nietzesche, the person that is not hindered by social limitations and won't wear a mask to express themselves 2018-06-18T23:08:18 < kakimir> interesting 2018-06-18T23:08:37 < BrainDamage> however, nietzesche has been used a lot as ideology basis as apology for the most authoritarian governments, including fascism and nazism 2018-06-18T23:08:51 < BrainDamage> so be careful about your arguments if you mention him 2018-06-18T23:09:25 -!- ohama [ohama@cicolina.org] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T23:10:16 < BrainDamage> an ubermensch does not draw its motivation from the society, rather than its own existance 2018-06-18T23:10:27 < BrainDamage> and rejects god, rather, an ubermensch is its own god 2018-06-18T23:11:01 < kakimir> sweet 2018-06-18T23:17:36 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-18T23:20:18 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZ6U71y700 2018-06-18T23:21:25 < Steffanx> I like how that goes doesnt move like a normal person would at all. 2018-06-18T23:21:29 < Steffanx> *guy 2018-06-18T23:22:11 < Steffanx> One of those fancy things in (kinda) lab conditions. 2018-06-18T23:22:24 < BrainDamage> seen that, the bending angle on any low radius curve would wreck those sensors 2018-06-18T23:22:32 < BrainDamage> or any rough riding in general 2018-06-18T23:22:43 < BrainDamage> small pothole and goodbye stick 2018-06-18T23:24:11 < Steffanx> We dont do potholes in dutchland. 2018-06-18T23:24:33 < BrainDamage> you directly aquaplane into a large flooded area? 2018-06-18T23:24:55 < kakimir> I don't like how there isn't really nothing connecting the handlebar to front wheel 2018-06-18T23:25:08 < Steffanx> uh what BrainDamage? 2018-06-18T23:25:56 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: just a stupid joke how most of your land is reclaimed from the sea 2018-06-18T23:26:13 < Steffanx> Damn you :P 2018-06-18T23:26:40 < BrainDamage> and aquaplane is when you launch yourself into a tract of road that's flooded, so much that you have a lift component that removes traction completely from the wheels 2018-06-18T23:27:11 < Steffanx> I got that part, not how it was related to dutchland 2018-06-18T23:27:16 < kakimir> hashtag fun 2018-06-18T23:27:29 < Steffanx> or more how it was related to my comment 2018-06-18T23:27:41 < kakimir> hashtag full throttle 2018-06-18T23:28:58 < Steffanx> I think my italian car will try to be a submarine. 2018-06-18T23:40:58 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-18T23:42:46 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-18T23:43:11 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T23:43:42 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-18T23:44:31 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uypIj_BYzAw 2018-06-18T23:44:38 < kakimir> amazing 2018-06-18T23:49:02 < stvn> I live in the suburb of Kensington in Perth, Western Australia. Perth is a long way from anywhere (the nearest similar sized city is 2,700Km or 4 days driving) but the climate is wonderful, the lifestyle is easy and the city is modern. With the wonders of the Internet and FedEx the world is a much smaller place now. 2018-06-18T23:50:49 < kakimir> internets that costs arm and leg 2018-06-18T23:51:36 < kakimir> I didn't know that aircraft propeller can flutter 2018-06-18T23:52:07 < BrainDamage> did you redline an aircraft engine yet? 2018-06-18T23:52:35 < kakimir> looking some old videos done by langley research center from youtubes 2018-06-18T23:52:41 < kakimir> like circa 1940 2018-06-18T23:53:10 < kakimir> they figured out all kind of stuff already back then 2018-06-18T23:56:52 < stvn> http://geoffg.net/Images/GeoffGraham.jpg --- Day changed Tue Jun 19 2018 2018-06-19T00:01:48 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T00:07:30 -!- nn777 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-19T00:08:27 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-19T00:08:30 < stvn> the only zano delivery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXovjXd7QLs 2018-06-19T00:13:53 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:a59d:e53c:993b:1f77] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-19T00:19:42 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-19T00:21:14 < kakimir> Laurenceb: how is brexit? 2018-06-19T00:21:19 < kakimir> doing good? 2018-06-19T00:23:13 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T00:23:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-9ce3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-19T00:27:21 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-19T00:35:30 < stvn> YEAH KAKIMIR IT'S GREAT 2018-06-19T00:39:12 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-19T00:43:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-19T00:43:53 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T00:47:30 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T00:48:39 < Laurenceb_> ingurland, ingrlund, nananananana 2018-06-19T00:50:09 < Laurenceb_> IF HE'S GUD ENUFF F'ME, HE'S GUD ENUFF FER YOU, IF HE SCORES ANUVA FEW, I'LL BE MOOSLIM TOO 2018-06-19T00:52:15 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2018-06-19T00:52:43 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-19T00:53:18 < stvn> y/N 2018-06-19T00:53:44 < kakimir> y 2018-06-19T00:54:09 -!- Laurenceb__ [5685cc45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.133.204.69] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T00:54:19 -!- Laurenceb__ [5685cc45@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.133.204.69] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-19T00:57:37 < stvn> now what will we do? 2018-06-19T00:58:05 < upgrdman> about 1 less britbong? 2018-06-19T00:58:08 < stvn> the blaxter effect 2018-06-19T00:59:25 < upgrdman> stvn, in .au its winter right now, correct? 2018-06-19T00:59:37 -!- laurence__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T00:59:42 < stvn> yes 2018-06-19T00:59:50 < kakimir> new ip boi 2018-06-19T00:59:59 < laurence__> sup 2018-06-19T01:00:01 < upgrdman> how cold does it get in .au? 2018-06-19T01:00:05 < kakimir> not a dummy 2018-06-19T01:00:07 < upgrdman> like snow or just light jacket? 2018-06-19T01:00:11 -!- laurence__ is now known as Laurenceb__ 2018-06-19T01:00:16 < stvn> as cold as it gets 2018-06-19T01:00:29 < upgrdman> well like below 10C? 2018-06-19T01:00:34 < stvn> can 2018-06-19T01:00:37 < upgrdman> k 2018-06-19T01:00:53 < kakimir> !wz YMML 2018-06-19T01:00:54 < stvn> i dont even bother to read/watch weather forecasts 2018-06-19T01:00:55 < englishbot> [YMML, Australia] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 3.2°C. WNW wind: 2.1 kph. Humidity: 95%. 2018-06-19T01:00:57 -!- Laurenceb_ [~laurence@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-19T01:01:03 < upgrdman> o fuck ok 2018-06-19T01:01:07 < stvn> i are in melbourne 2018-06-19T01:01:10 < Laurenceb__> https://www.google.com/search?q=norf+fc&client=ubuntu&hs=2u4&channel=fs&gl=uk&source=lnms&tbm=isch 2018-06-19T01:01:44 < Laurenceb__> suddenly they are everywhere 2018-06-19T01:01:57 < Laurenceb__> >goal >sound like fighter jet attack outside 2018-06-19T01:02:19 < stvn> idk wtf that is 2018-06-19T01:02:29 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbourne_Airport 2018-06-19T01:02:52 < kakimir> pick ICAO and butt it to !wx 2018-06-19T01:02:55 < kakimir> !wz 2018-06-19T01:05:52 < BrainDamage> !wz your mom 2018-06-19T01:05:54 < englishbot> Unable to locate query. 2018-06-19T01:05:58 < Laurenceb__> wtf I want ww3 with Russia now 2018-06-19T01:06:09 < Laurenceb__> cuz all the ball kicking fans would gte nuked 2018-06-19T01:06:47 < BrainDamage> !wz Your Mom, Lyons Rd, Millerstown, PA 2018-06-19T01:06:47 < englishbot> Unable to locate query. 2018-06-19T01:07:03 < BrainDamage> https://www.google.com/maps/place/Your+Mom,+Lyons+Rd,+Millerstown,+PA+17062,+Stati+Uniti/@40.4694637,-77.3162493,982m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c92ee911f24a77:0x3ff8b8497ccee002!8m2!3d40.4732862!4d-77.3133268 2018-06-19T01:07:15 < kakimir> !wz kaki 2018-06-19T01:07:16 < englishbot> [Kaki Barama, Niger] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 37°C. WSW wind: 26 kph. 2018-06-19T01:07:57 < kakimir> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diospyros_kaki 2018-06-19T01:08:16 < Laurenceb__> my sides 2018-06-19T01:08:25 < BrainDamage> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakka 2018-06-19T01:09:16 < BrainDamage> there's actually a whole song dedicated to persimmons here 2018-06-19T01:09:32 < BrainDamage> it refers to italy as the "land of the cachi" 2018-06-19T01:11:27 < kakimir> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vya8xGEi48HAKxQcX0MzepMMyETS1ZHG/view?usp=sharing prepairing some old gear for midsummer fest 2018-06-19T01:11:51 < kakimir> those boxes are older than me I bet 2018-06-19T01:12:02 < kakimir> new woofers 2018-06-19T01:12:13 < BrainDamage> my guitar is much older than me 2018-06-19T01:13:04 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-19T01:13:22 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T01:13:30 < kakimir> my brother will show the bluetooth boombox generation what sound pressure means 2018-06-19T01:14:39 < kakimir> nowdays pretty much nobody has proper sound equipment 2018-06-19T01:17:29 < kakimir> I bet noise complaint calls for loud music have been in decline for a while 2018-06-19T01:18:27 < BrainDamage> I am proud to have one 2018-06-19T01:18:39 < kakimir> noise complaint? 2018-06-19T01:19:22 < kakimir> our neighbour summer house has probs some pretty impressive subwoofer 2018-06-19T01:19:36 < kakimir> cannot hear it 2018-06-19T01:20:12 < kakimir> but walls are vibrating 2018-06-19T01:20:36 < kakimir> friday 3-4AM 2018-06-19T01:20:57 < kakimir> when youngsters ocupy the summer house 2018-06-19T01:22:30 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b-FEaGJG8Y 2018-06-19T01:23:02 < kakimir> I use this song to test if I still can hear bass 2018-06-19T01:24:35 < kakimir> there is certainly some damage to my hearing 2018-06-19T01:25:14 < BrainDamage> generally the damage is to the high portion of the spectrum, not low 2018-06-19T01:25:39 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-19T01:25:49 < kakimir> certainly it is 2018-06-19T01:26:33 < kakimir> show me italy things BrainDamage 2018-06-19T01:26:53 < kakimir> hashtag italy night not canada 2018-06-19T01:27:53 < BrainDamage> wat 2018-06-19T01:29:14 < kakimir> theme night 2018-06-19T01:38:28 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T01:40:57 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-19T01:41:02 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-19T01:43:29 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-19T01:52:43 < Laurenceb__> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/18/the-good-men-inside-the-all-male-group-taking-on-modern-masculinity 2018-06-19T01:52:45 < Laurenceb__> no homo 2018-06-19T01:53:24 < kakimir> french air traffic controllers striking cause 33% of european air traffic delays 2018-06-19T01:53:57 < kakimir> between 2014 and 2016 they were on strike average of 254days 2018-06-19T01:54:25 < Laurenceb__> Jordan Peterson on suicide watch 2018-06-19T01:55:40 < kakimir> why? 2018-06-19T01:56:03 < Laurenceb__> cuz the all male anti masculinity action force have btfo'd him 2018-06-19T01:56:37 < kakimir> oh 2018-06-19T01:56:42 < kakimir> cuck force 2018-06-19T01:57:09 < Laurenceb__> kek 2018-06-19T01:58:09 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T01:58:53 < Laurenceb__> ywlts every Uni have a department of masculinity 2018-06-19T02:02:31 < kakimir> when did they btfo him? 2018-06-19T02:02:51 < kakimir> because afaik he beats everyone 2018-06-19T02:04:58 < kakimir> but it's pretty much fruitless fight - opposition has perfect denialism 2018-06-19T02:23:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-19T02:37:27 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T02:47:13 -!- R0b0t1` [~R0b0t1@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-19T02:50:15 < stvn> thanks for coming back laurence 2018-06-19T02:50:47 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T02:55:24 < upgrdman> kakimir, so when the frenchies strike, no flights in .fr ? 2018-06-19T03:02:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-19T03:32:52 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117521.jpg 2018-06-19T03:32:52 < kakimir> I don't think so 2018-06-19T03:32:55 < Laurenceb__> w e w 2018-06-19T03:33:05 < kakimir> that they could all leave at same time 2018-06-19T03:33:07 < Laurenceb__> based Maajid 2018-06-19T03:33:30 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T03:34:02 < Laurenceb__> > the regressive left 2018-06-19T03:34:06 < Laurenceb__> alt-right confirmed 2018-06-19T03:37:02 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T03:37:50 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-19T03:43:05 -!- con3 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2018-06-19T07:34:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-19T08:09:56 < dongs> The foundation begun in C++11 is not yet complete, and C++17 did little to make our foundation more solid, regular, and complete. Instead, it added significant surface complexity and increased the number of features people need to learn. C++ could crumble under the weight of these – mostly not quite fully-baked – proposals. We should not spend most our time creating increasingly complicated facilities for experts, such as ourselves. 2018-06-19T08:10:02 < dongs> rip zyp 2018-06-19T08:10:13 < dongs> even strsoup himself doens't like the direction C++ is heading 2018-06-19T08:11:06 < dongs> for (int& x : v) ++x; // increment each element of the container v 2018-06-19T08:11:07 < dongs> yeah no 2018-06-19T08:11:16 < dongs> and this kids is why C++ will never work 2018-06-19T08:19:33 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-19T08:20:15 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T08:23:23 < machinehum> Are you just talking to yourself? 2018-06-19T08:23:41 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S01061cabc0ab4603.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.6] 2018-06-19T08:27:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T08:34:26 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T08:34:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-08ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T09:02:18 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-19T09:03:37 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T09:11:35 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-19T09:15:57 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-19T09:35:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-08ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-19T09:35:09 < Thorn> for (int x : v) ++x; // lol 2018-06-19T09:47:03 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T10:01:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T10:19:33 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T11:35:53 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T12:03:20 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-19T12:05:13 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T12:07:01 < stvn> hmm 2018-06-19T12:33:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T12:33:20 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117574.jpg 2018-06-19T12:33:26 < Laurenceb__> when u get irl trolled 2018-06-19T12:37:34 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T12:41:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-19T12:43:23 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2018-06-19T12:46:42 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T12:47:36 < stvn> hi Laurenceb__ 2018-06-19T12:59:55 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-19T13:04:58 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elradmbluewcxpkx] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T13:07:17 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-19T13:15:00 < stvn> the grand flop 2018-06-19T14:00:35 < dongs> this is a huge 2018-06-19T14:02:26 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T14:02:48 < Ultrasauce> big if true 2018-06-19T14:08:47 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-19T14:13:40 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-19T14:17:48 < stvn> wut 2018-06-19T14:22:36 -!- Cyric [~quassel@154.133.95.88.customer.cdi.no] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T14:22:36 -!- Cyric [~quassel@154.133.95.88.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-19T14:22:36 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T14:44:25 < jadew> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DECZXYLW0AA-a0S.jpg 2018-06-19T14:45:05 < dongs> laurenceb-quality link there bro 2018-06-19T14:46:33 < jadew> Laurenceb, probably because Sargon joined UKIP 2018-06-19T14:47:36 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T14:47:41 < Laurenceb__> jadew: thats the joke 2018-06-19T14:47:56 < jadew> Laurenceb__, ah, he didn't? :) 2018-06-19T14:48:04 < jadew> lol 2018-06-19T14:48:13 < Laurenceb__> I think he was trolling 2018-06-19T14:49:03 < karlp> trolling who? 2018-06-19T14:49:12 < Laurenceb__> everyone 2018-06-19T14:49:13 < karlp> teh uk? to get more ukip members without him to lead them? 2018-06-19T14:49:23 < Laurenceb__> something like that 2018-06-19T14:49:33 < karlp> that's just stupid. 2018-06-19T14:49:45 < jadew> yeah, I don't think he was trolling 2018-06-19T14:49:46 < karlp> actually attempting to take it over? that would be funny. 2018-06-19T14:50:02 < jadew> he can probably do that 2018-06-19T14:54:56 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 2018-06-19T14:54:59 < Cracki> imagine group photos with imagine-my-shock, akkkad, nazi-pug, and... Farage 2018-06-19T14:55:27 < Laurenceb__> sargon of aKKKad 2018-06-19T14:55:28 < Laurenceb__> kek 2018-06-19T14:55:39 < Cracki> didn't he use the n-word... 2018-06-19T14:55:48 < Cracki> he's such a soyboy 2018-06-19T14:56:10 < Cracki> he should be featured on https://twitter.com/round_boys 2018-06-19T14:57:54 < Cracki> I wonder how Tommy's doing... if he gets permanently enriched in there, you people should set up guillotines on market places 2018-06-19T14:59:33 < Cracki> jadew, https://twitter.com/BigCatDerek/status/1003317229189042177 2018-06-19T15:01:14 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T15:04:45 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T15:19:36 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T15:30:06 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-19T15:42:22 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-19T15:46:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-19T15:47:14 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T15:57:24 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-19T15:57:27 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-19T16:02:23 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T16:07:54 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T16:16:20 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-19T16:16:28 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T16:24:39 < karlp> TIL about water cooled resistors. http://www.eenewseurope.com/news/direct-water-cooled-wirewound-resistors-dissipate-9000w?news_id=107088 2018-06-19T16:24:52 < karlp> I mean, I guess it makes sense, just never thought of htem as integrated compenents like that 2018-06-19T16:25:41 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T16:25:54 < BrainDamage> it doubles as a flash boiler 2018-06-19T16:29:09 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@ip5b437013.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-19T16:31:17 < emeryth> but can it be used for vaping? 2018-06-19T17:08:17 < mawk> why wouldn't you want to shield the heat if it's for vaping ? 2018-06-19T17:08:21 < mawk> would* 2018-06-19T17:12:26 < mawk> is "system memory" writable ? 2018-06-19T17:12:44 < mawk> my school wants me to write a SPI/i2c/UART/USB DFU bootloader for some discovery board 2018-06-19T17:12:52 < mawk> exactly like the ST bootloader that's already ther 2018-06-19T17:12:53 < mawk> e 2018-06-19T17:13:05 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-19T17:13:09 < karlp> "system memory" isn't writable no, you jsut write your own bootloader 2018-06-19T17:13:24 < mawk> so the applications it loads can't be loaded right at 0x08000000 2018-06-19T17:13:35 < mawk> if I want to persist them 2018-06-19T17:15:13 < karlp> not unless you want to replace yourself. 2018-06-19T17:15:48 < zyp> there's no reason you really need to load them exactly at 0x8000000 either 2018-06-19T17:16:38 < mawk> I don't know ARM assembly 2018-06-19T17:16:42 < mawk> a bunch of 0x00 is nop ? 2018-06-19T17:16:48 < mawk> or I have to fill the space with nops myself 2018-06-19T17:16:52 < zyp> what? 2018-06-19T17:17:07 < mawk> if I don't load myself at 0x08000000 how will it find the code ? 2018-06-19T17:17:16 < karlp> you have to link your apps to run from wherever you are going to program them in flash and your bootloader has to jump to them properly. 2018-06-19T17:17:36 < mawk> ah I misread your phrase zyp 2018-06-19T17:17:37 < mawk> yes, indeed 2018-06-19T17:17:38 < zyp> you define where the application goes, IIRC I use 0x8002000 2018-06-19T17:17:55 < mawk> but the bootloader itself is at 0x08000000, right 2018-06-19T17:17:59 < zyp> correct 2018-06-19T17:18:12 < mawk> alright 2018-06-19T17:18:17 < zyp> application builds as usual, only difference is linker script says it starts at 0x8002000 2018-06-19T17:18:25 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-19T17:19:14 < mawk> out of curiosity, what's the magical value at the end of the vector table ? 2018-06-19T17:19:20 < mawk> that cubeMX puts here 2018-06-19T17:19:22 < karlp> what? 2018-06-19T17:19:37 < karlp> you know about it, you tell us. 2018-06-19T17:19:39 < mawk> https://paste.suut.in/raw/e5G3H1eC 2018-06-19T17:20:14 < zyp> the BootRAM? 2018-06-19T17:20:18 < mawk> it puts that constant BootRAM at the end of the vector table, with the comment "This is for boot in RAM mode for STM32L152XE devices" 2018-06-19T17:20:25 < mawk> yes 2018-06-19T17:20:40 < karlp> sounds like, it's for "booting in ram mode for stm32l152xe devices" ... 2018-06-19T17:20:42 < mawk> I've already googled it, without success 2018-06-19T17:20:46 < mawk> yeah but where does that come from 2018-06-19T17:20:53 < zyp> I have no idea what it does, never seen anything like that before 2018-06-19T17:21:31 < mawk> search results call that value a workaround 2018-06-19T17:23:47 < zyp> it's not listed in the vector table in the RM 2018-06-19T17:27:48 < mawk> it's the hex representation of instruction "svcpl" 2018-06-19T17:27:51 < mawk> according to objdump 2018-06-19T17:28:16 < zyp> vectors aren't instructions 2018-06-19T17:28:52 < zyp> looks like this isn't specific to L1 either, found bunch of similar shit for F1 also 2018-06-19T17:29:30 < mawk> at the top of the vector table there's a comment saying that the table is aligned to end up at physical address 0x0000.0000 2018-06-19T17:29:41 < zyp> yes 2018-06-19T17:31:41 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-19T17:33:29 < zyp> oh, looks like the BootRAM contents are indeed supposed to be an instruction 2018-06-19T17:33:51 < zyp> ref. http://www.stm32duino.com/viewtopic.php?p=22060&sid=8b4f55587c896ecbb2e50c3631466ccf#p22060 2018-06-19T17:34:12 < zyp> I don't see how it'll end up there though 2018-06-19T17:37:00 < mawk> so this instruction calls the supervisor, but it has condition flags "positive or zero" 2018-06-19T17:37:04 < mawk> why would it be conditionnal 2018-06-19T17:37:10 < zyp> no it doesn't 2018-06-19T17:37:16 < zyp> you decoded it wrong 2018-06-19T17:37:42 < mawk> objdump with architecture arm tells it's svcpl, which is svc with suffix pl 2018-06-19T17:38:22 < karlp> your stm32 doesn't run arm code 2018-06-19T17:46:03 < mawk> ah yeah indeed 2018-06-19T17:46:04 < mawk> ldr.w pc, [pc, #-264] ; 0xfffffefc 2018-06-19T17:48:25 < mawk> so it loads Reset_Handler into pc 2018-06-19T17:49:48 < zyp> it's probably a trick to work with some shitty legacy debugger or something that expects it can start executing at a fixed address 2018-06-19T17:50:13 < mawk> I see 2018-06-19T17:50:44 < zyp> older/other arm archs have vectors that are instructions, cortex-m vectors are plain addresses 2018-06-19T17:51:23 < zyp> so on older arms, you could just put the address of the reset vectors in PC and start executing 2018-06-19T17:51:42 < zyp> on cortex-m you have to put the _contents_ of the reset vector in PC 2018-06-19T17:52:27 -!- c4017 [~c4017@S010664777dab66f3.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-19T17:55:09 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T17:56:16 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-19T18:00:32 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-19T18:01:13 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-19T18:02:05 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-19T18:02:11 < mawk> then why hardcode the instruction ? 2018-06-19T18:02:31 < mawk> could as well write it there, it's an assembly file after all 2018-06-19T18:04:36 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-19T18:08:13 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T18:12:10 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T18:17:33 -!- Guest30 [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T18:17:50 -!- Guest30 is now known as VladimirPutin 2018-06-19T18:18:07 < VladimirPutin> Oh believe you me, us Russians are ITCHING for a war with USA. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of American soil that has running water, electricity, or petrol that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the niggers and othe 2018-06-19T18:18:08 < VladimirPutin> r mongrel races first) would swoop in, raping your women, and killing EVERY American pig shit they see. When Russia's done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it 2018-06-19T18:18:50 -!- VladimirPutin [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-19T18:19:27 < BrainDamage> come on, a random outburst like that and r2 commie isn't even on to rage about 2018-06-19T18:19:59 < mawk> there are very few blacks in russia 2018-06-19T18:20:04 < mawk> like 40k over 150 million 2018-06-19T18:21:04 < BrainDamage> since when facts ever got in the way of trollposts 2018-06-19T18:21:44 < BrainDamage> but if we want to pedants, they only said first, not that it'd be a significant attack 2018-06-19T18:38:41 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T18:51:16 < englishman> hmm 2018-06-19T18:51:27 < englishman> pic18F is sinking 50mA on gpio input 2018-06-19T18:57:09 < englishman> i'm pretty sure this guy left them as outputs 2018-06-19T18:57:16 < englishman> and is just driving them high then reading 2018-06-19T19:00:13 < Thorn> englishman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz1MjjA_-_k 2018-06-19T19:00:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-19T19:00:32 < englishman> ty 2018-06-19T19:01:53 < englishman> wow 2018-06-19T19:04:38 < englishman> how do i do pic disassembly 2018-06-19T19:07:56 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T19:13:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-19T19:24:14 < sync> englishman: ida bro 2018-06-19T19:24:19 < englishman> yeah 2018-06-19T19:24:26 < englishman> so RB2, RB1, and RB0 are inputs 2018-06-19T19:24:34 < englishman> yet he writes 11 to TRISB 2018-06-19T19:24:43 < englishman> making RB2 an output 2018-06-19T19:24:48 < englishman> that is the only time TRISB is touched 2018-06-19T19:26:27 < Steffanx> Are you debugging your clients code again? :d 2018-06-19T19:26:59 < englishman> yes 2018-06-19T19:27:12 < BrainDamage> are they defective pics? 2018-06-19T19:27:14 < Steffanx> Cant you just do it all for him? 2018-06-19T19:27:23 < englishman> lol no they are not defective pics they work fine 2018-06-19T19:27:27 < englishman> with MY software 2018-06-19T19:28:57 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-19T19:29:06 < englishman> sync are the orange numbers decimal or hex 2018-06-19T19:29:21 < englishman> i think hex 2018-06-19T19:29:25 < englishman> ok so its 0x11 2018-06-19T19:29:36 < englishman> which is what im seeing 2018-06-19T19:29:37 < englishman> yeah 2018-06-19T19:29:37 < englishman> lol 2018-06-19T19:29:42 < englishman> they are outputs 2018-06-19T19:29:50 < englishman> that he is #yoloing current into 2018-06-19T19:30:40 < sync> :D 2018-06-19T19:30:42 < sync> nice 2018-06-19T19:30:58 < englishman> i wonder if i change this to i wonder if i change this to 0x17 2018-06-19T19:31:00 < englishman> if it iwll work 2018-06-19T19:31:05 < englishman> fuck 2018-06-19T19:32:31 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T19:44:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-19T19:49:49 < englishman> fuck even if i set them as inputs 2018-06-19T19:49:56 < englishman> he has all internal pullups enabled 2018-06-19T19:50:05 < englishman> external pulldowns are 1M 2018-06-19T19:50:15 < englishman> internal puliups are 10-100k 2018-06-19T19:53:34 < englishman> maybe he's just super smart and he's using this in a way to prevent noise 2018-06-19T19:53:47 < englishman> as you require 50-100mA on each input to override the nfet and drive the pin high 2018-06-19T19:55:03 < Steffanx> He's smart enough to have to debug his code without giving you the actual code :P 2018-06-19T19:55:08 < Steffanx> *have you 2018-06-19T19:58:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-19T20:04:46 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:5560:6b72:8249:b7b] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T20:14:01 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.250.227.20] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T20:14:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@45.250.227.20] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-19T20:14:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T20:15:11 < englishman> oh it's not the pullups 2018-06-19T20:15:37 < englishman> he's driving 5V into the chip when VDD is 4.2V 2018-06-19T20:24:07 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-19T20:26:03 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T20:29:44 < BrainDamage> spotted laurenceb https://twitter.com/spiderfingersar/status/1009087421848457217 2018-06-19T20:35:19 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-19T20:41:03 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6de2e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T20:44:10 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T20:44:54 < upgrdman> is there an easy way to check if only 1 bit of an integer is set? e.g. 1/2/4/8/16/etc 2018-06-19T20:48:12 < Steffanx> hah, upgrdman. That was discussed yesterday. 2018-06-19T20:48:16 < BrainDamage> wasn't there a dicussion yesterday? 2018-06-19T20:48:27 < upgrdman> orly 2018-06-19T20:48:28 < upgrdman> lol 2018-06-19T20:48:41 < upgrdman> so what was the outcome? 2018-06-19T20:48:48 < Steffanx> (x - 1) & ~x 2018-06-19T20:49:03 < Steffanx> sorry, that was the 0 result :P 2018-06-19T20:49:26 < Steffanx> i was going to fool you, but .. meh :P 2018-06-19T20:50:14 < Steffanx> x & (x - 1) works better 2018-06-19T20:50:45 < BrainDamage> what you're asking btw is if the number is a power of 2 2018-06-19T20:50:52 < upgrdman> BrainDamage, yes 2018-06-19T20:50:53 < BrainDamage> for the next time 2018-06-19T20:51:00 < BrainDamage> and what steffanx said 2018-06-19T20:51:05 < upgrdman> k thx 2018-06-19T20:52:01 < Steffanx> The result of that is zero when a power of 2 2018-06-19T20:52:08 < Steffanx> except for the case when the value is 0. 2018-06-19T20:54:46 < Steffanx> it came up after someone posted this neat trick upgrdman: https://godbolt.org/g/D5eFbs 2018-06-19T20:55:21 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T20:55:22 < upgrdman> hmm ya i knew about popcnt instruction 2018-06-19T20:55:35 < upgrdman> but didnt want to __asm__ :) 2018-06-19T20:55:53 < Steffanx> it was more about C and how great clang seems to be at turning that into a signle instruction 2018-06-19T20:56:13 < upgrdman> oh ya, indeed 2018-06-19T21:01:23 < englishman> popcnt should have an intrinsic 2018-06-19T21:01:26 < englishman> no need to asm 2018-06-19T21:02:13 < englishman> what would x & (x-1) compile to? 2018-06-19T21:02:20 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0VMHWf8p4 musics from rock era 2018-06-19T21:02:38 < Cracki> englishman, some kind of log2 instruction? 2018-06-19T21:03:05 < Cracki> iirc popcount counts ones, not where the highest 1 is --- Log closed Tue Jun 19 21:08:30 2018 --- Log opened Tue Jun 19 21:15:49 2018 2018-06-19T21:15:49 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T21:15:49 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 138 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 137 normal] 2018-06-19T21:17:03 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 80 secs 2018-06-19T21:27:05 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-19T21:28:08 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T21:53:21 < stvn> m 2018-06-19T22:04:39 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elradmbluewcxpkx] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-19T22:20:16 < kakimir> how does ebay request total even work 2018-06-19T22:20:52 < kakimir> when you request total you commit to buy 2018-06-19T22:20:59 < kakimir> before you get the total 2018-06-19T22:21:05 < Steffanx> i dont even know what you're talking about 2018-06-19T22:22:09 < Steffanx> lol @ arrow, englishman. For me they seem to work the other way around. Something they didnt ship (according to them) already arrived days ago. 2018-06-19T22:22:18 < BrainDamage> it's useful if you have items that can get combined shipping 2018-06-19T22:22:40 < BrainDamage> not all vendors setup the system properly to scale the shipping cost with the amounts of items 2018-06-19T22:23:03 < BrainDamage> generally they explain it in a message to do so 2018-06-19T22:23:25 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-19T22:23:29 < kakimir> but when I press that 2018-06-19T22:23:49 < kakimir> I get original shipping price and I need to pay 2018-06-19T22:24:12 < kakimir> when I send request - items in cart go to "pay now" mode 2018-06-19T22:24:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T22:24:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-19T22:24:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T22:25:29 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-19T22:28:45 < kakimir> "You've committed to buy this item. You need to go to checkout and pay for these items." 2018-06-19T22:38:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-50-32.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T22:41:31 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T22:48:28 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-6de2e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T22:48:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-6de2e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-19T22:52:28 < englishman> Steffanx they do that to me too 2018-06-19T22:52:36 < englishman> some shit arrives, a week later: here's the tracking number 2018-06-19T22:54:39 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T22:54:52 < vampi-the-frog> Trump 2018-06-19T23:00:39 < englishman> looks like those pins being set to outputs are the only reason the board worked at all 2018-06-19T23:00:53 < englishman> they were sinking enough current to not fuck with the high pin voltage 2018-06-19T23:01:12 < englishman> when i set them to inputs the esd diodes are clearly flowing and fucking with nearby pins 2018-06-19T23:01:37 < englishman> what an absolute shit amateur design 2018-06-19T23:02:48 < Steffanx> high pin voltage? 2018-06-19T23:03:38 < vampi-the-frog> Now you're thinking with Arduino 2018-06-19T23:03:47 < englishman> Steffanx: yeah, 5v input, 4.2V Vdd 2018-06-19T23:05:16 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-19T23:17:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-50-32.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-19T23:42:37 < stvn> and that's heaps sick ayyyyyyyyyeeee 2018-06-19T23:42:38 < stvn> https://twitter.com/packetlife/status/1008706289386520576 2018-06-19T23:45:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-19T23:49:28 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:5560:6b72:8249:b7b] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-19T23:52:01 < Steffanx> Who buys a 2k fridge? 2018-06-19T23:54:38 < zyp> is $2k expensive for a fridge? 2018-06-19T23:54:48 < stvn> not really 2018-06-19T23:55:15 < stvn> i'd say in between 1-2k is a somewhat normal price 2018-06-19T23:55:16 < Steffanx> Imho it is. 2018-06-19T23:55:28 < stvn> i wouldn't spend more than 1k 2018-06-19T23:55:30 < zyp> my impression is that large fridges with side by side doors are easily >$2k 2018-06-19T23:55:41 < stvn> yah some definitely can be 2018-06-19T23:56:01 < zyp> while single unit width fridges are like $1k 2018-06-19T23:56:08 < zyp> i.e. 60cm 2018-06-19T23:57:15 < zyp> I'm planning on separate integrated fridge and freezer units for new kitchen, they'll cost around $1700 in total 2018-06-19T23:57:19 < Steffanx> Sure, but.. a two door one? How many kids do you expect to have? 2018-06-19T23:57:31 < zyp> and that's totally plain ikea units 2018-06-19T23:57:46 < zyp> Steffanx, do you cook? 2018-06-19T23:58:02 < Steffanx> Sure, but i dont need THAT much space 2018-06-19T23:58:27 < Steffanx> The store is close enough. 2018-06-19T23:58:34 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-19T23:58:55 < zyp> well, when I were living alone my fridge weren't usually full either 2018-06-19T23:59:21 < Steffanx> But, whatever. I guess some people "need" it 2018-06-19T23:59:25 < stvn> heh... kids 2018-06-19T23:59:30 < stvn> now that's a sobering thought 2018-06-19T23:59:43 < zyp> now it's mostly a game of tetris every time we've been grocery shopping 2018-06-19T23:59:49 < zyp> and we don't even have kids yet --- Day changed Wed Jun 20 2018 2018-06-20T00:00:34 < stvn> yet 2018-06-20T00:00:53 < Steffanx> :D 2018-06-20T00:00:56 < karlp> englishman: where on earth did 4.2V vdd come from? 2018-06-20T00:01:22 < stvn> all my friends (even the ones who have a decent income) complain all day about being broke 2018-06-20T00:01:33 < stvn> since having those children 2018-06-20T00:01:38 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T00:02:25 < Steffanx> Broke and no time... 2018-06-20T00:02:32 < zyp> stvn, yes, yet 2018-06-20T00:02:40 < zyp> probably will in a couple of years 2018-06-20T00:02:44 < stvn> hehe 2018-06-20T00:02:57 < Steffanx> At least 5 2018-06-20T00:03:03 < Steffanx> Kids that is 2018-06-20T00:03:09 < zyp> haha 2018-06-20T00:03:15 < stvn> a litter 2018-06-20T00:03:15 < zyp> unlikely 2018-06-20T00:03:25 < karlp> hrm, I haven't noticed kids being a financial drain, just time. 2018-06-20T00:03:30 < Steffanx> Reminds me of that huuuge washing machine dongs once showed. 2018-06-20T00:03:35 < Steffanx> Makes me wonder 2018-06-20T00:03:38 < karlp> (some of that time was spent on spending money though, so ....) 2018-06-20T00:03:39 < zyp> karlp, in decent countries I don't think they are 2018-06-20T00:03:48 * karlp hi5s zyp 2018-06-20T00:03:53 < karlp> there's that too I guess :) 2018-06-20T00:04:12 < Steffanx> Wait until they want a new iphone 2018-06-20T00:04:35 < stvn> i'll tell them it causes cancer 2018-06-20T00:04:39 < stvn> [: 2018-06-20T00:04:41 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/Bkd7w.jpg <- fridge is actually not so full today 2018-06-20T00:05:04 < Steffanx> Should i say something mean now stvn? 2018-06-20T00:05:05 < karlp> Steffanx: well, yes, those sorts of things are still a ways out for me :) 2018-06-20T00:05:19 < stvn> Steffanx: yes 2018-06-20T00:05:33 < Steffanx> By the time you have kids, cancer is curable. 2018-06-20T00:05:45 < stvn> yes by never 2018-06-20T00:05:50 < Steffanx> As in 100% 2018-06-20T00:05:57 < stvn> \o/ 2018-06-20T00:06:56 < Steffanx> Not too bad, i blame the imported japanese stuff 2018-06-20T00:07:10 < Steffanx> Assuming thats japanse 2018-06-20T00:07:11 < Steffanx> Ese 2018-06-20T00:07:25 < stvn> if you see the majority of people in .au having children are living off the government.... 2018-06-20T00:08:41 < stvn> Steffanx: https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/british-police-are-investigating-a-minor-explosion-at-a-london-tube-station/news-story/c58663f26b5fb06ea13295cb01a5bdf9 2018-06-20T00:08:45 < zyp> kids do impact how big loans banks are comfortable giving you though 2018-06-20T00:08:55 < stvn> you've pushed laurence over the edge by +q 2018-06-20T00:09:37 < zyp> one of my friends had a kid last year, I think his bank told him the limit he could borrow just went down around $100k because of that 2018-06-20T00:09:41 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T00:10:13 < stvn> sounds reasonable 2018-06-20T00:10:31 < englishman> karlp: 5V and a diode 2018-06-20T00:10:34 * ds2 *heart* PSoC5 2018-06-20T00:10:44 < ds2> (for prototype/test) 2018-06-20T00:11:10 < zyp> the guy that approved my loan a couple of months ago also said something like «I don't really care so much that you have a car loan, what would matter more is if you had any kids» 2018-06-20T00:11:22 < englishman> haha 2018-06-20T00:11:26 < Steffanx> Lol 2018-06-20T00:12:21 < zyp> so I'm happy I'm finishing all that house buying stuff before kids 2018-06-20T00:14:59 < stvn> indeed 2018-06-20T00:16:30 < zyp> speaking of house, I ordered one of these the other day: https://www.atlasied.com/awr3w 2018-06-20T00:16:38 < zyp> gonna have it put in while the house is getting built 2018-06-20T00:17:10 < englishman> zyp will soon be broke and not have kids 2018-06-20T00:17:12 < englishman> best of both worlds 2018-06-20T00:17:15 < zyp> :D 2018-06-20T00:18:13 < zyp> I just figured I wanna do home network properly, and the time to do that is before the walls are closed up 2018-06-20T00:18:43 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-6de2e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-20T00:18:43 < jadew> nice 2018-06-20T00:18:59 < jadew> but it will be difficult to know how many cables you'll want in each room 2018-06-20T00:19:18 < jadew> better use some large pipes so you can pull new cables through 2018-06-20T00:20:03 < stvn> definitely make it 100% fiber 2018-06-20T00:20:22 < jadew> then he can have a media converter in each room 2018-06-20T00:20:32 < stvn> \o/ 2018-06-20T00:21:03 < Steffanx> Sure. A few 10gbe fibers.. 2018-06-20T00:21:06 < jadew> love this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ_3S-IQm38 2018-06-20T00:21:07 < stvn> i'm living in the house that technology forgot 2018-06-20T00:21:18 < jadew> reminds me of strange days 2018-06-20T00:21:25 < Steffanx> Smoke signals is all you have? 2018-06-20T00:21:37 < Steffanx> Vape like a pro. 2018-06-20T00:21:37 < stvn> antenna on the roof and a broken POTS line 2018-06-20T00:21:41 < zyp> I'm mainly planning to run standard conduit to most rooms plus ceiling in the middle of each floor, then a thicker conduit to the room where I expect to put the server 2018-06-20T00:22:16 < Steffanx> Did you convince mrs. Zyp yet? :p 2018-06-20T00:22:50 < zyp> it's no problem fitting two cables in standard conduit, and I don't imagine needing more than that anywhere 2018-06-20T00:23:14 < zyp> should I end up needing more, I can just pull some fiber with a ton of threads or something :p 2018-06-20T00:23:30 < zyp> Steffanx, she doesn't really care :p 2018-06-20T00:25:09 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKnlo7sLfa0 2018-06-20T00:25:30 < jadew> that's what it reminds me about 2018-06-20T00:28:11 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-20T00:28:33 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/uT2Ih.JPG <- this sort of network closet is what they usually put into houses here nowadays 2018-06-20T00:28:57 < zyp> doesn't fit much 2018-06-20T00:29:10 < karlp> heh, altibox 2018-06-20T00:29:18 < zyp> that a name you know? 2018-06-20T00:29:24 < karlp> the router I'm hacking on right now has an "altibox" led, it's some rebranding 2018-06-20T00:29:39 < zyp> altibox is the most decent ISP in norway 2018-06-20T00:29:40 < karlp> https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Telsey_CPVL7 2018-06-20T00:29:46 < zyp> according to my impression 2018-06-20T00:29:47 < karlp> probably obsolete in norway too, 2018-06-20T00:30:15 < zyp> probably 2018-06-20T00:30:23 < zyp> photo is from the previous place I lived 2018-06-20T00:30:58 < zyp> place I'm living now doesn't have a network closet at all, fibers just come in behind the tv 2018-06-20T00:31:22 < zyp> plural, since I got a new one last week 2018-06-20T00:31:25 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/S8iYQ.jpg 2018-06-20T00:31:49 < stvn> i see 2018-06-20T00:32:10 < zyp> I did some torrenting on the new connection the other day: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/XHcr2.png 2018-06-20T00:32:39 < stvn> what do ppl torrent these days? 2018-06-20T00:32:39 < Cracki> what do you pay for that 2018-06-20T00:32:50 < Cracki> 4K videos 2018-06-20T00:32:53 < zyp> stvn, shit that's not on netflix 2018-06-20T00:33:01 < zyp> nah, just 1080p 2018-06-20T00:33:06 < Cracki> amateur. 2018-06-20T00:33:11 < Cracki> 4K in H.265 rules 2018-06-20T00:33:18 < zyp> took like 3 minutes to download an 11GB torrent 2018-06-20T00:33:25 < Cracki> good seedboxen 2018-06-20T00:33:29 < stvn> nifty 2018-06-20T00:33:33 < zyp> probably does, but I don't have a 4k tv yet 2018-06-20T00:33:54 < Cracki> what does that uplink cost a month? 2018-06-20T00:34:06 < zyp> 699 NOK, promotional offer 2018-06-20T00:34:14 < zyp> including tv channels and shit 2018-06-20T00:34:36 < Steffanx> = 73 euro. Not bad 2018-06-20T00:34:51 < Steffanx> Even when you consider norway == expensive. 2018-06-20T00:35:06 < zyp> at old ISP I paid 739 or something for 120/15, new one is 500/500 2018-06-20T00:35:41 < zyp> promotional price only lasts for a year though 2018-06-20T00:36:29 < zyp> but now I'll be moving in january, and Altibox is apparently gonna hook up the area new house is in this fall, so I'll cancel this before the first year is up anyway :p 2018-06-20T00:36:52 < karlp> yeah, gigabit fibre is grate! 2018-06-20T00:37:15 < stvn> yeah i want to stream cat videos :D 2018-06-20T00:37:33 < stvn> like englishman should 2018-06-20T00:37:35 < Cracki> cat noses and paws in super high definition 2018-06-20T00:39:10 < stvn> indeed 2018-06-20T00:43:56 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-20T00:44:23 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T01:14:15 < Cracki> purround sound 2018-06-20T01:19:07 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-20T01:28:55 -!- talsit [foobar@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T01:29:55 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-20T01:39:27 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-20T02:53:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-20T03:17:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T03:52:26 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T04:03:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-20T04:17:26 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A320D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T04:21:57 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A328C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-20T04:43:36 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T05:03:52 < dongs> http://sam.hocevar.net/blog/2014/12/12/procedural-worlds-statistical-analysis-image-processing-and-prng-exploitation-for-the-lulz/ 2018-06-20T05:05:17 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-20T05:06:21 < englishman> Male individuals from Niger were made to appear artificially more frequently. 2018-06-20T05:09:13 < dongs> https://i.redd.it/h0vncq93g1511.jpg retweet 2018-06-20T05:17:07 < stvn> all i have to say is lol 2018-06-20T05:25:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-20T05:29:38 < aandrew> I miss lulzsec 2018-06-20T05:29:48 < dongs> sorry lulzsec was never funny 2018-06-20T05:30:03 < dongs> you basically just admitted that you liked weev raping you in the ass 2018-06-20T05:31:12 < aandrew> hah 2018-06-20T05:31:30 < aandrew> weird way to connect the dots but hey it's your diner paper 2018-06-20T05:32:28 < englishman> aandrew i ordered that grandcream trash 2018-06-20T05:32:48 < englishman> tired of pulling the phone off my desk when i swivel around 2018-06-20T05:33:31 < aandrew> englishman: nice. hope it works for you, I like mine 2018-06-20T05:33:38 < englishman> yeah looks good and super cheap 2018-06-20T05:33:51 < aandrew> it is super cheap but seems to have held up here for hte last year or so 2018-06-20T05:34:13 < dongs> wahts grandcream 2018-06-20T05:34:13 < aandrew> yay, ~1.7us timing sync between nrf51 devices 2018-06-20T05:34:16 < dongs> some voip trasH? 2018-06-20T05:34:31 < englishman> yes 2018-06-20T05:34:34 < englishman> voip over dect 2018-06-20T05:34:58 < dongs> i'd like to think thats waht my japphones are 2018-06-20T05:35:06 < dongs> except they're certainly some custom NTT trash 2018-06-20T05:35:12 < aandrew> dect is the only good landline phone tech 2018-06-20T05:35:17 < dongs> voice, power and signalling over 2 wires 2018-06-20T05:35:26 < aandrew> dect is wireless 2018-06-20T05:35:30 < dongs> lol fuck off. 2018-06-20T05:35:34 < dongs> who needs wireless 2018-06-20T05:35:47 < englishman> people with legs 2018-06-20T05:36:05 < englishman> or chairs that swivel 2018-06-20T05:36:10 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T05:36:34 < dongs> upgrdman hasnt innovated anything in a whlie 2018-06-20T05:36:37 < dongs> what is he up to 2018-06-20T05:37:09 < dongs> oh, he innovated popcnt in the last 24 hours 2018-06-20T05:37:09 < dongs> neat 2018-06-20T05:37:14 < englishman> dong 2018-06-20T05:37:21 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-20T05:37:24 < englishman> i used ida to tell a guy his code is broken 2018-06-20T05:37:31 < englishman> then i found 3 different faults in his hardware 2018-06-20T05:37:46 < dongs> is this the microchip shithead 2018-06-20T05:37:48 < dongs> or something else 2018-06-20T05:37:54 < englishman> i think im going to steal his client from out under him 2018-06-20T05:37:55 < englishman> yes 2018-06-20T05:38:30 < englishman> this is a major maple syrup manufacturer 2018-06-20T05:38:32 < dongs> anyone involved with PICs cant be trusted 2018-06-20T05:38:45 < aandrew> truth 2018-06-20T05:38:50 < englishman> yes 2018-06-20T05:38:53 < englishman> awful shit 2018-06-20T05:39:37 < stvn> lol 2018-06-20T05:40:16 < aandrew> it's funny, I started out my professional career on pics, but that's because the next best thing was fucking HC08 2018-06-20T05:42:27 < upgrdman> dongs, heh, ya. not much innovating going on here. 2018-06-20T05:42:56 < upgrdman> kinda burned out on electronics. not forever, but just need a change. 2018-06-20T05:43:07 < dongs> rip 2018-06-20T05:44:12 < stvn> THE HC08 2018-06-20T05:44:16 < stvn> now that takes me back 2018-06-20T05:47:17 < stvn> i should sell my 68hc908gp32 dip40 prick on ebay..... seems they are the expensive now 2018-06-20T05:48:23 < stvn> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2PCS-X-MC68HC908GP32CP-IC-MCU-8BIT-32KB-FLASH-40DIP-Freescale/332265388905 2018-06-20T05:48:34 < dongs> wot 2018-06-20T05:48:55 < stvn> obviously an in demand long since discontinued part for legacy boards i guess 2018-06-20T05:49:17 < dongs> Because the shooting time, all of our product lot numbers are the latest batch. 2018-06-20T05:49:28 < stvn> THE SHOOTING TIME 2018-06-20T05:49:38 < stvn> i like the sound of that! 2018-06-20T05:49:46 < stvn> my chip actually has the motorola logo 2018-06-20T05:49:49 < dongs> aLSO LOL AT SELLER NAME 2018-06-20T05:49:56 < dongs> one letter off from digikey 2018-06-20T05:50:02 < stvn> lol 2018-06-20T05:50:03 < dongs> obv going to people not noticing 2018-06-20T05:59:00 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T05:59:07 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-20T05:59:07 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-20T06:01:51 < dongs> http://www.cypress.com/documentation/reference-designs/ccg3pa-car-charger-reference-design-using-southchip found R2COMmies project 2018-06-20T06:08:44 < stvn> china coin 2018-06-20T06:09:30 < stvn> great http://www.southchip.com 2018-06-20T06:09:32 < englishman> well he's only been there 3 years you cant expect much 2018-06-20T06:10:13 < dongs> lol @ english button on that site 2018-06-20T06:10:15 < dongs> it does: nothing 2018-06-20T06:10:23 < stvn> perfect 2018-06-20T06:10:50 < dongs> ive used some southchip shit in a mobile battery thing tho 2018-06-20T06:10:53 < dongs> worked pretty good 2018-06-20T06:11:31 < stvn> that is good to know 2018-06-20T06:13:47 < aandrew> interesting, southchip 2018-06-20T06:15:32 < englishman> who wants to bet its a preflashed gd32 inside 2018-06-20T06:15:44 < aandrew> gd32? 2018-06-20T06:15:51 < dongs> the stm32 clonez 2018-06-20T06:16:52 < aandrew> aha 2018-06-20T06:17:33 < stvn> ah the god damn 32 2018-06-20T06:22:08 < dongs> sup dongs 2018-06-20T06:27:56 < dongs> R2COM: i played a game for 3 hours last night ~on steam~ 2018-06-20T06:29:23 < stvn> Altera.com will be integrated into Intel.com on July 30, 2018. At this date, Altera.com and associated sites will redirect to Intel.com and any bookmarks will need to be updated. Expect to see UI updates, and Intel.com menus will include Altera sites and tools. Altera.com and Intel.com will not experience downtime during this integration. 2018-06-20T06:29:30 < stvn> how's that sound 2018-06-20T06:31:21 < dongs> this dickstarter shithead is trying to convince me voltage-controlled $5 chinablower motor will have more than 8bits of ADC on that input 2018-06-20T06:44:30 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-icupaxikfzqtueop] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-20T06:46:17 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ygmqdgogvqnvdxrz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T06:48:29 -!- ReadError [sid34420@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wyvgagkyukqzuddn] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-20T06:50:30 -!- jonsowman [sid155658@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-thzoebqgpdnbieqq] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-20T06:50:30 -!- HorizonBreak [sid131374@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-shrbdktlyobqzrqd] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-20T06:50:45 -!- tkerby [sid176660@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dhihwlousputcrpw] has quit 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https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/_r9B0tMvhfo3oK-PJ6n5H6qsG-8=/0x0:2040x1360/920x613/filters:focal(857x517:1183x843):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60111173/jbareham_180213_2301_0139.0.jpg this is a fucking $80000 car, get the fuck out 2018-06-20T07:48:00 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T07:57:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T08:00:41 < Cracki> >The “Autopilot Buddy” is a piece of magnetic plastic 2018-06-20T08:00:47 < Cracki> >$199 2018-06-20T08:02:51 < dongs> i didn't actually read the article 2018-06-20T08:02:59 < dongs> i just raged at shitty $5k indian car interior and closed page 2018-06-20T08:03:10 < Cracki> oh you can still see me 2018-06-20T08:03:17 < dongs> like, you get a shitty car in india and slap a 20" LCD in there powered by rageberrypi 2018-06-20T08:03:20 < dongs> and you got model3 interior 2018-06-20T08:27:31 -!- drzacek 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scam 2018-06-20T10:20:43 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-20T10:20:58 < dongs> judew, no fucking shit. 2018-06-20T10:22:53 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T10:43:29 < dongs> life is strange before the storm 2018-06-20T10:43:33 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-20T10:47:52 < stvn> hmmm 2018-06-20T10:47:57 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T10:48:16 < Steffanx> Dongs is in love with the girl? 2018-06-20T10:48:42 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T10:52:39 < stvn> cats 2018-06-20T10:52:47 < dongs> cats and dongs 2018-06-20T10:53:25 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-20T11:43:46 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T13:14:13 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-klketqdscxvklovw] has joined ##stm32 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Here is the jlink error message https://gist.github.com/tomeaton17/d64d9fb1b74575f53fedf4e21a39f2e7 2018-06-20T13:53:56 < karlp> call segger. 2018-06-20T13:55:53 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: I wonder if that's stm32 2018-06-20T13:56:18 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: an issue on the stm32? 2018-06-20T13:56:48 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: yes, from your paste. 2018-06-20T13:57:03 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: hm, is it possible your hardware reset line is constantly low? 2018-06-20T13:57:51 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: and karlp is right, call segger if you are using their tools. Or try openocd instead, we have some experience with it. 2018-06-20T14:03:24 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: I don't think thats possible, I have tried with two different boards now. I will speak to segger. 2018-06-20T14:12:58 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: btw, why do you prefer their software to openocd? 2018-06-20T14:13:06 < karlp> "because it works better" :) 2018-06-20T14:14:12 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: Up until now everything has worked perfectly :( I have never really tried openocd, I was given a jlink by my company and just been using that 2018-06-20T14:14:33 < karlp> and your first port of call for support was _here_ ? 2018-06-20T14:14:36 * karlp laughs 2018-06-20T14:15:13 < tomeaton17> my first port of call was my boss, but hes not really a technical boss 2018-06-20T14:15:33 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: btw, is your hardware reset line connected to jlink? If yes, why do not you tell segger software to use it? 2018-06-20T14:16:40 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: It is connected, and jlink uses when connecting initally, and according to the logs it tries to use when resetting as well 2018-06-20T14:16:40 < PaulFertser> (not technical boss) that makes it even funnier 2018-06-20T14:17:01 < PaulFertser> Reset type NORMAL: Resets core & peripherals via SYSRESETREQ & VECTRESET bit. <-- not hw line 2018-06-20T14:17:22 < tomeaton17> Reset: Using fallback: Reset pin. ? 2018-06-20T14:17:52 < tomeaton17> To be honest I am the only one with small electronics knowledge at the company and Im an intern :( 2018-06-20T14:17:54 < PaulFertser> But only as a fallback. Ok, I'd still bet your hw reset line is somehow pulled low. Have you actually checked its state with a voltmeter? 2018-06-20T14:18:33 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T14:21:50 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: changed the reset strategy and still the same issue. I will check it with the scope 2018-06-20T14:23:20 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: when reset is pulled low an stm32 target can be freely talked to via jtag and swd. But it can never be halted (as it can never run in the first place). 2018-06-20T14:26:32 < tomeaton17> PaulFertser: It actually seems to be a problem with my code, if I mass erase first and then try it doesnt have a problem 2018-06-20T14:26:42 < tomeaton17> Thats strange because the code isnt doing anything complex 2018-06-20T14:31:22 < tomeaton17> oh derp.. I forgot to enable debugging in cubemx 2018-06-20T14:48:09 < kakimir> is Royal Mail International Standard tracked? 2018-06-20T14:49:06 < tomeaton17> No you have to pay extra 2018-06-20T14:51:53 < kakimir> Royal Mail International Signed? 2018-06-20T14:54:24 < tomeaton17> I dont know if that has tracking, but Royal Mail International tracked&signed seems to be the same price 2018-06-20T14:56:19 < kakimir> I took the signed one 2018-06-20T14:58:42 < kakimir> https://www.ebay.com/itm/HeadBlade-Razor-ATX-All-Terrain-Razor-Head-Shave-Razor-Blade-Kit-2015-Special/202318844242 really nice 2018-06-20T14:58:50 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-20T15:02:30 < BrainDamage> lol @ all terrain 2018-06-20T15:08:05 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-20T15:17:19 < PaulFertser> tomeaton17: hm, with debug messages from openocd it would have been much clearer. Nice to hear you fixed it. 2018-06-20T16:17:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T16:31:31 < dongs> f0 doesn't have ITM_SendChar does it? 2018-06-20T16:31:57 < dongs> cuz no swo? 2018-06-20T16:33:40 < aandrew> dongs: correct 2018-06-20T16:33:55 < dongs> whats the next best thing 2018-06-20T16:34:00 < dongs> some semihosting syscall shit? 2018-06-20T16:40:58 < zyp> either that or a uart 2018-06-20T16:41:07 < dongs> no uart here 2018-06-20T16:42:50 < zyp> semihosting is convenient in that it doesn't need any hardware, but it halts the cpu while debugger is processing the call, so it might affect your timing 2018-06-20T16:42:58 -!- Guest57 [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T16:43:14 -!- Guest57 is now known as Laurenceb__ 2018-06-20T16:43:19 < Laurenceb__> supp 2018-06-20T16:43:29 < Laurenceb__> anyone here any good with lunix? 2018-06-20T16:43:36 * Laurenceb__ is failing at gpsd 2018-06-20T16:43:52 < zyp> dongs, if you're jlinking, you could try segger rtt 2018-06-20T16:43:55 < Laurenceb__> gpsmon works correctly, but there is no data output from gpsd 2018-06-20T16:44:04 < Laurenceb__> dunno what to try other than rf -rf 2018-06-20T16:44:07 < Laurenceb__> *rm 2018-06-20T16:45:10 < karlp> "anyone here good with gpsd" is your actual question 2018-06-20T16:45:15 < karlp> you asked this weeks ago, 2018-06-20T16:45:20 < karlp> you said it was all working well now 2018-06-20T16:45:22 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T16:47:46 < Laurenceb__> karlp: I didnt test it well enough 2018-06-20T16:47:51 < Laurenceb__> its not reliable 2018-06-20T16:48:09 < Laurenceb__> it keeps turning /dev/ttyACM0 into an empty file owned by root 2018-06-20T16:48:21 < Laurenceb__> that sends the last ubx packet 2018-06-20T16:48:33 < Laurenceb__> so I get 20hz gps data when I should be getting 10hz 2018-06-20T16:48:43 < Laurenceb__> every other packet is junk 2018-06-20T16:49:29 < Laurenceb__> also about 80% of the time atm I get no data from gpsd, only from gpsmon 2018-06-20T16:49:33 -!- c4017 [~c4017@S010664777dab66f3.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-20T16:49:52 < Laurenceb__> guess I could use gpsmon to talk to my Qt thingy 2018-06-20T16:52:09 < srk> why not nemea? 2018-06-20T16:52:32 < Laurenceb__> there is more functionality availably from ubx aiui 2018-06-20T16:52:35 < srk> nmea 2018-06-20T16:52:44 < srk> I see 2018-06-20T16:52:49 < srk> like what? 2018-06-20T16:53:09 < Laurenceb__> like position and velocity errors 2018-06-20T16:53:34 < Laurenceb__> also I can copypaste by stm32 code for ubx config 2018-06-20T16:53:36 < Laurenceb__> *my 2018-06-20T16:53:55 < srk> nmea also reports these *DOPs 2018-06-20T16:54:14 < Laurenceb__> ok, but I dont have the ublox config for nmea to hand 2018-06-20T16:54:25 < Laurenceb__> anyway thats not the porblem 2018-06-20T16:54:44 < Laurenceb__> nmea would also break /de/vttyACM0 and have no data for gpsd 2018-06-20T16:55:10 < Laurenceb__> looks like the /dev/ttyACM0 error might be caused if I run cgps 2018-06-20T16:55:19 < srk> It might be, I run few gpsds with ubloxes and nmea and all is good 2018-06-20T16:55:31 < srk> dn't use ACM0, add rule to udev 2018-06-20T16:55:33 < Laurenceb__> interesting, with systemd? 2018-06-20T16:55:38 < srk> yes 2018-06-20T16:55:43 < Laurenceb__> ok 2018-06-20T16:55:48 < Laurenceb__> I'm using a udev rule 2018-06-20T16:55:55 < Laurenceb__> I'll pastebin in a sec 2018-06-20T16:55:55 < srk> ok 2018-06-20T16:58:10 < Laurenceb__> https://pastebin.com/H2jM2L1v 2018-06-20T16:58:22 < Laurenceb__> that runs from udev 2018-06-20T16:59:48 < Laurenceb__> https://pastebin.com/P8kfwDrw 2018-06-20T16:59:58 < Laurenceb__> thats the gpsd config 2018-06-20T17:00:11 < srk> iirc I only change GPSD_OPTIONS="-G -n" 2018-06-20T17:00:23 < srk> looks good 2018-06-20T17:00:40 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T17:01:24 < srk> I don't understand 'gpsmon works correctly, but there is no data output from gpsd' 2018-06-20T17:02:44 < srk> if gpsmon or cgps or any other gpsd client works then there are data coming from gpsd.. or not? 2018-06-20T17:02:48 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T17:02:53 < Laurenceb__> ok I added -G 2018-06-20T17:02:59 < Laurenceb__> behaviour has now changed 2018-06-20T17:03:12 < Laurenceb__> gpsmon cannot connect as another process has opened the device 2018-06-20T17:03:23 < Laurenceb__> gpsd still has no data according to xgps 2018-06-20T17:03:34 < srk> -G .. This flag causes gpsd to listen on all addresses (INADDR_ANY) 2018-06-20T17:03:47 < srk> shouldn't be required. -n is more important 2018-06-20T17:03:52 < Laurenceb__> ok 2018-06-20T17:04:15 < Laurenceb__> is it ok to pass more than one device in the config? 2018-06-20T17:04:24 < Laurenceb__> so /dev/ttyACM0 /dev/ttyACM1 ? 2018-06-20T17:04:37 < srk> huh, not quite sure 2018-06-20T17:05:50 < Laurenceb__> anyway I dont think that ius the issue 2018-06-20T17:05:59 < Laurenceb__> as I had this problem before I tried that 2018-06-20T17:06:07 < Laurenceb__> - adding two possible devices 2018-06-20T17:06:23 < Laurenceb__> I suspect its something to do with permissions 2018-06-20T17:06:28 < Laurenceb__> and sockets maybe? 2018-06-20T17:07:21 < srk> ExecStart=/usr/sbin/gpsd -N $GPSD_OPTIONS $DEVICES 2018-06-20T17:07:41 < Laurenceb__> wtf now xgps works 2018-06-20T17:07:44 < srk> list of deviceS is passed to it so should be good 2018-06-20T17:07:50 < Laurenceb__> ok 2018-06-20T17:08:13 < Laurenceb__> hmm left it 5 minutes... 2018-06-20T17:08:31 < Laurenceb__> ok I'm going to try just leaving it again 2018-06-20T17:10:31 < Laurenceb__> ok, removed the gps and /dev/ttyACM0 is a blank file owned by root 2018-06-20T17:10:33 < Laurenceb__> not looking good 2018-06-20T17:11:40 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: what on earth do you mean saying "blank file" about a device node?! 2018-06-20T17:12:10 < PaulFertser> Is it not a device node anymore? Is something removing it and creates a normal file in its place? 2018-06-20T17:12:15 < Laurenceb__> PaulFertser: a normal file with size 0 2018-06-20T17:12:24 < Laurenceb__> it looks like that yes 2018-06-20T17:12:37 < Laurenceb__> and i can read a single ubx packet from it 2018-06-20T17:13:08 < Laurenceb__> ok gps pulled back in, config script ran and gpsd restarted 2018-06-20T17:13:14 < effractur> `/win 24 2018-06-20T17:13:17 < Laurenceb__> but no data in xgps 2018-06-20T17:13:21 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: so do "ls -l /dev/ttyACM0", then start gpsd manually (and save full expanded command line for the future reference), then do ls -l /dev/ttyACM0 again. 2018-06-20T17:13:24 < Laurenceb__> I'll wait 5 minutes again 2018-06-20T17:15:10 < srk> PaulFertser: with ebpf and bcc there are fun debuggin tools like execsnoop, opensnoop 2018-06-20T17:16:02 < Laurenceb__> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 29 Jun 20 15:11 ttyACM0 2018-06-20T17:16:48 < srk> heh, looks like it is removed somewhere :D 2018-06-20T17:18:59 < Laurenceb__> time updates when I unplug the device 2018-06-20T17:19:39 < Laurenceb__> even when gpsd is not running 2018-06-20T17:19:48 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: probably you edited gpsd command line in some silly way that makes it overwrite the file 2018-06-20T17:20:01 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: or probably some udev rule 2018-06-20T17:20:03 < Laurenceb__> hmm 2018-06-20T17:20:25 < Laurenceb__> ah yeah there are supposed to be udev "gpsd hotplug" rules 2018-06-20T17:20:28 < Laurenceb__> I'll check udev 2018-06-20T17:21:24 < Laurenceb__> /etc/udev/rules.d ? 2018-06-20T17:21:32 < Laurenceb__> is that the only place to look? 2018-06-20T17:22:47 < PaulFertser> udevadm monitor --something 2018-06-20T17:23:07 < PaulFertser> Should give you an insight into what it's doing. There're probably additional rules in /lib/udev/rules.d 2018-06-20T17:23:50 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: and I'm almost sure it's some modification of yours that results in device node not created/deleted. 2018-06-20T17:24:07 < Laurenceb__> hmm 2018-06-20T17:24:15 < Laurenceb__> my udev rules aare quite simple 2018-06-20T17:24:54 < Laurenceb__> https://pastebin.com/hM8TJMRZ 2018-06-20T17:25:53 < Laurenceb__> that seems to be missing a comma.. 2018-06-20T17:29:07 < Laurenceb__> nope that doesnt make any difference 2018-06-20T17:29:26 < aandrew> hm, I thought the GD32 was some random chinese shits 2018-06-20T17:29:28 < Laurenceb__> ps aux | grep gps shows gpsd running with the arguments I passed 2018-06-20T17:29:32 < aandrew> it's a fujitsu product though 2018-06-20T17:30:09 < karlp> where did you get that from? 2018-06-20T17:30:18 < aandrew> http://www.fujitsu.com/ca/en/products/devices/semiconductor/gigadevice/microcontroller/gd32/ 2018-06-20T17:30:40 < karlp> http://www.gigadevice.com/about/company-profile/ 2018-06-20T17:31:02 < karlp> fujitsu is just a distributer 2018-06-20T17:31:08 < aandrew> orly, gotcha 2018-06-20T17:31:22 < karlp> "Fujitsu Electronics America is an official distributor of GigaDevice GD32 Microcontrollers" 2018-06-20T17:31:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T17:31:30 < aandrew> how cheap is the cheapest gd32 compared to the cheapest stm32.. wonder if there's actually a reason to use them 2018-06-20T17:31:39 < aandrew> karlp: it seems I don't read. :-) 2018-06-20T17:32:03 < karlp> for singles, it seems unworthy, but compared to the f4 levelstuff, istr it being noticeably hceaper, 2018-06-20T17:32:10 < karlp> but you've got to be in china to get the good prices 2018-06-20T17:32:26 < karlp> buying them on online was't any real saver as I recall. 2018-06-20T17:32:32 < karlp> they have quite a line of products though 2018-06-20T17:32:43 < aandrew> yeah nothing on octopart, I should ask my chinapeeps 2018-06-20T17:33:04 < aandrew> because if they're comparable it might be useful for low end shit as opposed to 8051 2018-06-20T17:33:12 < aandrew> but even nuvoton has *cheap* m0s 2018-06-20T17:33:35 < karlp> lcsc has heaps of them 2018-06-20T17:35:04 < aandrew> lcsc? 2018-06-20T17:35:16 < aandrew> ah distributor 2018-06-20T17:35:26 < karlp> (like fujitsu... ;) 2018-06-20T17:35:52 < aandrew> gd32f101 $1.41 in 500s, which isn't really high vol 2018-06-20T17:36:14 < aandrew> $1 cheaper than the equiv stm32f101 2018-06-20T17:36:20 < aandrew> but again not hgih vol 2018-06-20T17:42:30 < karlp> I think these are the other "same" ones http://www.mindmotion.com.cn/en/view-9.aspx 2018-06-20T17:42:38 < karlp> but not sure how same thjey are, or whether they just kept the numbering 2018-06-20T17:42:55 < aandrew> right 2018-06-20T17:43:14 < kakimir> lpc1111/2/3/4 2018-06-20T17:43:26 < kakimir> fhn33 2018-06-20T17:43:31 * karlp sure isn't going to go and test them all 2018-06-20T17:43:36 < kakimir> such a winner 2018-06-20T17:46:27 < karlp> sinowealth sh32 too, they have an sh32f205 partnumber 2018-06-20T17:47:14 < kakimir> oh 2018-06-20T17:47:18 < kakimir> sinowealth 2018-06-20T17:47:23 < kakimir> tell me about that company 2018-06-20T17:47:32 < kakimir> I have used their chips in my projects 2018-06-20T17:47:41 < kakimir> reading mandarin datasheets etc. 2018-06-20T17:48:09 < kakimir> is it all just copies of western chips? 2018-06-20T17:48:36 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T17:50:04 < Laurenceb__> ok I made some progress 2018-06-20T17:50:16 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: I'd first try testing with gpsd not being able to interfere, e.g. by renaming /usb/sbin/gpsd to /usr/sbin/gpsd.unfuck . Check if the right file is created by udev. If it works, then you'll need to pay closer attention to the exact command line passed to gpsd. 2018-06-20T17:50:18 < Laurenceb__> just added a sleep 1 at the beginning of the config script 2018-06-20T17:50:40 < Laurenceb__> the only problem now if the /dev/ttyACM0 file 2018-06-20T17:50:55 < Laurenceb__> and that only gets screwed if xgps is running when I unplug the gps 2018-06-20T17:51:26 < PaulFertser> cat /proc/$(pgrep gpsd | head -n1)/cmdline | xargs -0 2018-06-20T17:53:58 < Laurenceb__> /usr/sbin/gpsd -N -G -b -n /dev/ttyACM0 /dev/ttyACM1 2018-06-20T17:54:33 * karlp suspects it creates the second one as an output file if it doesn't exist as a device. 2018-06-20T17:54:52 < karlp> do you actually _have_ two devices, or are you trying to hack around plug/unplug renumbering shit? 2018-06-20T17:55:03 < Laurenceb__> trying to hack around 2018-06-20T17:55:15 < Laurenceb__> but I never see a /dev/ttyACM1 appearing as a regular file 2018-06-20T17:55:18 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-20T17:55:34 < BrainDamage> just create a fucking udev rule to assign a consistent name 2018-06-20T17:55:51 < PaulFertser> Laurenceb__: are you sure gpsd is not started too early, before the device node is created? 2018-06-20T17:55:54 < BrainDamage> you have the same problem over and over 2018-06-20T17:56:29 < Laurenceb__> hmm ok 2018-06-20T17:56:31 < karlp> what braindamage said, just fix it 2018-06-20T17:56:37 < mawk> it's your gpsd program that's creating a tty file as a regular file Laurenceb__ ? 2018-06-20T17:56:38 < Laurenceb__> I think the gpsd udev already does that 2018-06-20T17:56:41 < karlp> try using /dev/serial/by-id/ instead. 2018-06-20T17:56:41 < mawk> or you did that 2018-06-20T17:56:51 < Laurenceb__> mawk: something is 2018-06-20T17:57:28 < mawk> if it's for test purposes you can at least use a pts device 2018-06-20T17:57:55 < mawk> for instance something like socat STDIO PTY,link=/dev/ttyACM42 2018-06-20T17:57:56 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-20T17:58:06 < karlp> what are you talking about doing now? 2018-06-20T17:58:12 < karlp> how would that help? 2018-06-20T18:00:25 < Laurenceb__> hmm gps isnt consistent 2018-06-20T18:00:31 < Laurenceb__> and no /dev/serial 2018-06-20T18:02:46 < karlp> what useless distro are you running? 2018-06-20T18:05:44 < Laurenceb__> ubuntu 2018-06-20T18:05:54 < Laurenceb__> ok I created a symlink to /dev/ubloxgps 2018-06-20T18:05:58 < Laurenceb__> using udev 2018-06-20T18:06:02 < karlp> ubuntu what? from 2008? 2018-06-20T18:06:11 < Laurenceb__> its connected ok and xgps runs ok... 2018-06-20T18:06:15 < Laurenceb__> kek 2018-06-20T18:06:19 < karlp> what's on the other end of the symlink? 2018-06-20T18:06:23 < karlp> is _it stable? 2018-06-20T18:06:46 < Laurenceb__> /dev/ttyACM0 or whatever udev found that matches a ublox gps 2018-06-20T18:07:13 < karlp> but the symlink will always point to ACM0 won't it? 2018-06-20T18:07:17 < karlp> hwo will this help you? 2018-06-20T18:08:20 < Laurenceb__> no it will point to whatever udev finds 2018-06-20T18:08:31 < Laurenceb__> ok it disconnected without breaking, even with xgps running 2018-06-20T18:08:34 < Laurenceb__> thats a first 2018-06-20T18:09:19 < Laurenceb__> reconnects ok and running... 2018-06-20T18:13:48 < Laurenceb__> wew it works reliably 2018-06-20T18:13:56 < Laurenceb__> can be hotplugged lots of times now 2018-06-20T18:14:13 < Laurenceb__> thanks for the help 2018-06-20T18:14:51 < Laurenceb__> SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KERNEL=="ttyACM*", ATTRS{product}=="u-blox GNSS receiver", RUN+="/usr/local/bin/gps_config/gps_config.sh %k", SYMLINK+="ubloxgps", OPTIONS="last_rule" 2018-06-20T18:15:58 < Laurenceb__> then DEVICES="/dev/ubloxgps" and GPSD_OPTIONS="-G -b -n" in /dev/default/gpsd 2018-06-20T18:16:11 < Laurenceb__> and sleep 1 at start of config script 2018-06-20T18:22:17 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOm8ePMg1dE 2018-06-20T18:22:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T18:24:15 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T18:24:33 < Laurenceb__> dat accent 2018-06-20T18:24:41 < Laurenceb__> wow that guy is annoying 2018-06-20T18:24:56 < Laurenceb__> or should I say "dat guay" 2018-06-20T18:25:32 < Laurenceb__> send him back to London 2018-06-20T18:31:53 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T18:35:58 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T18:36:13 < Laurenceb__> https://twitter.com/bbcpress/status/1009403972187250688 2018-06-20T18:36:17 < Laurenceb__> epic dramaz 2018-06-20T18:37:06 < karlp> when you don't provide the context, this is just notfunny.png 2018-06-20T18:37:23 < Laurenceb__> lurn 2 scroll down 2018-06-20T18:37:35 < karlp> lurn to paste funny 2018-06-20T18:38:06 < Laurenceb__> ur mom 2018-06-20T18:39:23 < englishman> stop laurent 2018-06-20T18:39:31 < englishman> dont you have enough channels to ruin 2018-06-20T18:39:35 < englishman> why do you have to ruin this one 2018-06-20T18:41:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-20T18:44:09 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-20T18:50:04 < Laurenceb__> oi 2018-06-20T18:50:48 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/i9m6eZc 2018-06-20T18:51:18 < Laurenceb__> the absolute state of that sign 2018-06-20T18:54:15 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T18:56:26 < dongs> https://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G152875062626 fucking internet of shit 2018-06-20T18:56:40 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T18:57:09 < Laurenceb__> wow its like being 5 years old again 2018-06-20T18:57:17 < Laurenceb__> muh gameboy 2018-06-20T18:58:15 < Laurenceb__> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/20/university-apologises-nazi-general-quote-used-motivate-staff/ 2018-06-20T19:03:30 < Laurenceb__> https://imgur.com/3edfosX 2018-06-20T19:10:01 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] by ChanServ 2018-06-20T19:12:03 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T19:13:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T19:14:07 < englishman> PICguy has been soundy defeated 2018-06-20T19:14:19 < englishman> i have stolen his client, his biggest 2018-06-20T19:14:33 < englishman> ensuring the everlasting success of englishman and englishcats 2018-06-20T19:14:35 < Steffanx> Lolwut? And he accepts that? 2018-06-20T19:14:41 < englishman> he doesnt have a choice 2018-06-20T19:14:59 < Steffanx> Did you know who the client was? 2018-06-20T19:15:09 < englishman> of course 2018-06-20T19:15:36 < Steffanx> Now youll redo using the stm32? 2018-06-20T19:15:52 < englishman> STM8 2018-06-20T19:16:01 < Steffanx> Meh. 2018-06-20T19:16:13 < Steffanx> Are those availablr again? 2018-06-20T19:16:23 < englishman> lol nah i will just fix their shit and do future projects 2018-06-20T19:20:39 < upgrdman> englishman, do you're a combination pcb house and firmware rev-eng house? 2018-06-20T19:20:50 < englishman> can you repeat that in english 2018-06-20T19:20:59 < upgrdman> reverse engineering house 2018-06-20T19:21:10 < englishman> oh ha 2018-06-20T19:21:25 < englishman> yea i used idapro.exe for the first time yesterday. adding reveng to my resume 2018-06-20T19:21:34 < upgrdman> *thumbs up* 2018-06-20T19:22:29 < upgrdman> ida is commercial right? i wonder if someone used ida to RE ida to crack it 2018-06-20T19:25:37 -!- Laurenceb__ [05874c07@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T19:41:36 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T19:44:13 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T19:44:19 < DisruptiveNL> Hi all 2018-06-20T19:44:38 < DisruptiveNL> I am having some issues with the Chip Select (CS) pin with SPI1 2018-06-20T19:44:51 < DisruptiveNL> using a STM32L476RG nucleo 2018-06-20T19:46:26 < englishman> tell me more 2018-06-20T19:46:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-20T19:47:06 < DisruptiveNL> I have a MMC-SPI connection on SPI1 2018-06-20T19:47:21 < DisruptiveNL> On a nucleo-STM32L476RG 2018-06-20T19:48:22 < DisruptiveNL> When I want the ¨MMC¨ to ¨talk¨ i have to put the CS pin to GND (Ground) 2018-06-20T19:49:00 < DisruptiveNL> but this is not the way 2018-06-20T19:49:22 < DisruptiveNL> I thought I put the CS on the NSS pin (PA15) but this is not doing it 2018-06-20T19:50:28 < karlp> there's hoops to make nss magically do thigns, you're probably better off controlling the pin as a gpio around your spi transactions. 2018-06-20T19:50:39 < karlp> it's mostly used for multi-master and slave operations 2018-06-20T19:50:50 < DisruptiveNL> I have been placing it on PA3 ... 2018-06-20T19:50:51 < karlp> but you _can_ get it to toggle in places for you if you try reallly hard 2018-06-20T19:54:23 < DisruptiveNL> PC4.. i am trying now 2018-06-20T19:54:29 < DisruptiveNL> (GPIO_OUTPUT | GPIO_PULLUP | GPIO_SPEED_2MHz | \ 2018-06-20T19:54:29 < DisruptiveNL> GPIO_OUTPUT_SET | GPIO_PORTC | GPIO_PIN4) 2018-06-20T19:55:19 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-20T19:55:41 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T19:56:49 < karlp> what is that spam meant to mean? 2018-06-20T20:00:03 < PaulFertser> karlp: can nss be used for hardware CS on F1 too? 2018-06-20T20:00:34 < karlp> I'm led to believe it can, I've never tried. 2018-06-20T20:00:43 < karlp> spi's the same periph as on others, 2018-06-20T20:00:53 < karlp> only AF gpio shit is different on f1 2018-06-20T20:01:05 < PaulFertser> What's the main idea of the trick you have in mind? 2018-06-20T20:01:07 < DisruptiveNL> f4 2018-06-20T20:05:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-20T20:08:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-95e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T20:26:06 < DisruptiveNL> i thought of defining the CS pin as: # define GPIO_SPI_CS_SD_CARD \ 2018-06-20T20:26:06 < DisruptiveNL> (GPIO_OUTPUT | GPIO_CNF_OUTPP | GPIO_SPEED_50MHz | \ 2018-06-20T20:26:06 < DisruptiveNL> GPIO_OUTPUT_SET | GPIO_PORTC | GPIO_PIN4) 2018-06-20T20:41:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-20T21:02:43 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T21:08:48 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T21:12:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T21:22:26 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@118.211.178.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-20T21:23:05 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-20T21:25:40 < invzim> lo and behold, with latest cube and libs, micro sd actually works 2018-06-20T21:25:50 < invzim> for stm32f401 2018-06-20T21:31:48 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T21:34:02 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@220-235-205-235.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T21:41:08 < Steffanx> \o/ 2018-06-20T21:50:29 < zyp> Steffanx, how's your stick of joy? 2018-06-20T21:52:15 < BrainDamage> upgrdman: if you want sores RE platform, check out radare 2018-06-20T21:56:18 < Steffanx> the what zyp? 2018-06-20T21:56:31 < zyp> your stick of joy 2018-06-20T21:56:43 < Steffanx> im not sure what you're referring to. 2018-06-20T21:56:49 < zyp> ok 2018-06-20T21:57:14 < Steffanx> Do i want to know? 2018-06-20T21:57:45 < Steffanx> I cannot imagine you're wondering how my dick is today. 2018-06-20T21:57:56 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T21:57:56 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.162.53] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-20T21:57:56 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T22:00:17 < Steffanx> And hows yours zyp? 2018-06-20T22:01:12 < BrainDamage> stick or dick? 2018-06-20T22:01:41 < Steffanx> idk. 2018-06-20T22:01:54 < BrainDamage> you're supposed to answer yes in those cases 2018-06-20T22:02:07 < Steffanx> Or do you mean the stick im beating Dr. Bla with for misbehaving. 2018-06-20T22:02:15 < Steffanx> You gotta help me out zyp. 2018-06-20T22:04:33 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-20T22:04:55 < zyp> I don't think I were referring to either 2018-06-20T22:06:34 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:81b7:691c:7aaf:1423] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T22:08:02 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T22:09:25 < Steffanx> :P 2018-06-20T22:19:11 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-klketqdscxvklovw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-20T22:22:12 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T22:33:10 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-20T22:37:12 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T22:53:11 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T22:53:21 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T22:53:58 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-20T22:55:57 < englishman> WHOA 2018-06-20T22:56:04 < englishman> free RPI3 with $50 order at ARROW 2018-06-20T22:57:03 < Rickta59> and free 1day shipping 2018-06-20T22:57:29 < Rickta59> * or at least it was the other day 2018-06-20T23:00:42 < englishman> shit but mouser has better pricing on everything i need today 2018-06-20T23:01:08 < Steffanx> i got my free rpi a few days ago. Not sure why. dont need it. 2018-06-20T23:01:14 < Steffanx> but free, so. 2018-06-20T23:01:34 < Rickta59> lol .. think back 3 years and people were paying premium for those things 2018-06-20T23:01:35 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T23:01:39 < Rickta59> and waiting waiting waiting 2018-06-20T23:02:11 < Steffanx> i was one of them 2018-06-20T23:02:23 < englishman> i need a digikey cart stuffer again 2018-06-20T23:02:29 < zyp> 3 or 3+? 2018-06-20T23:02:40 < Rickta59> have you done any bare metal with it Steffanx ? 2018-06-20T23:02:42 < englishman> your choice 2018-06-20T23:02:51 < Steffanx> no, Rickta59. 2018-06-20T23:03:15 < BrainDamage> you're supposed to reformulate things in a sexual innuendo way 2018-06-20T23:04:00 < Steffanx> #metoo 2018-06-20T23:04:47 < BrainDamage> ah yes, if irc isn't twitter, then why does it have hashtags? 2018-06-20T23:04:53 < Rickta59> i thought it might be interesting to see if you could devote one cpu to baremetal and let the rest run linux 2018-06-20T23:05:08 < kakimir> everything good is stolen from ircs 2018-06-20T23:11:21 < Steffanx> Are you on twatter of facebook kakimir? 2018-06-20T23:11:33 < Steffanx> or linkedin? 2018-06-20T23:11:45 < kakimir> nope 2018-06-20T23:12:43 < englishman> damn digikey's pricing is outta control 2018-06-20T23:12:50 < englishman> saving like 30% at mouser 2018-06-20T23:17:11 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-20T23:20:56 < englishman> digikey should have potato chips and stuff 2018-06-20T23:21:05 < englishman> how am i going to stuff this cart 2018-06-20T23:21:15 < englishman> im going to have to pay this $8 ship fee 2018-06-20T23:21:34 < BrainDamage> or digikey should have a cart stuffer section 2018-06-20T23:21:42 < BrainDamage> buy some flux, you can never have enough flux 2018-06-20T23:21:44 < englishman> Recommended for You like amazon 2018-06-20T23:22:02 < englishman> i'd like some tub noclean flux but they are all $$$ 2018-06-20T23:22:18 < BrainDamage> eh, I have an ultrasonic cleaner 2018-06-20T23:22:32 < englishman> it's brushon for this PTH assembly 2018-06-20T23:22:33 < BrainDamage> I throw a pcb in it with some drops of non foaming soap 2018-06-20T23:22:41 < englishman> yeah i have an ultradongic it's great 2018-06-20T23:24:15 < BrainDamage> my recommended section at amazon is literally all things I've already seen myself 2018-06-20T23:24:24 < englishman> but i really don't want to do assembly with non noclean 2018-06-20T23:24:30 < BrainDamage> it's a bit ridiculous 2018-06-20T23:24:46 < englishman> wow i can buy a $69 hammer from digikey 2018-06-20T23:24:54 < Steffanx> hammmmer time. 2018-06-20T23:25:00 < BrainDamage> does it give oral service? 2018-06-20T23:25:09 < englishman> literally a normal-ass 18oz claw hammer 2018-06-20T23:25:23 < Steffanx> What is wrong with you today BrainDamage? 2018-06-20T23:25:29 < Steffanx> or more wrong. 2018-06-20T23:25:35 < englishman> or a $183 deadblow hammer 2018-06-20T23:25:36 < englishman> wtf 2018-06-20T23:25:53 < BrainDamage> Steffanx: because of the sexual innuendos or what? 2018-06-20T23:26:00 < Steffanx> Yes that 2018-06-20T23:26:47 < Steffanx> ok, wrong is the wrong word: Make it: Whats up with you today, BrainDamage? 2018-06-20T23:28:56 < BrainDamage> well, since the price was 69, I tought it'd be obvious 2018-06-20T23:30:40 < Steffanx> hmpf 2018-06-20T23:32:05 < Steffanx> i forgot we were in ##stm32-pub :P 2018-06-20T23:36:50 < BrainDamage> it's evening in the eu, you know it's pumpin' time 2018-06-20T23:37:58 < BrainDamage> also, I'd like to stroke my own ego that my drunk shitposting is still more quality than failrenceb 2018-06-20T23:38:10 < BrainDamage> sane failrenceb, to specify 2018-06-20T23:38:39 < Steffanx> Yeah, where is stvn 2018-06-20T23:38:49 < Steffanx> Dr. Bla. 2018-06-20T23:39:58 < englishman> it's 530am, he's sleeping in 2018-06-20T23:40:48 < BrainDamage> I'm sure he'll make a timely appearance later with some horribly racist remarks propagandised as black humour 2018-06-20T23:42:31 < bitmask> so my paper is supposed to be 400-700 words (2-3 pages) and its 520 words and just under 2 pages, what does that mean? :) 2018-06-20T23:43:08 < BrainDamage> That your word processor knows how to run a basic word splitting algo 2018-06-20T23:43:13 < englishman> double space and use 14pt 2018-06-20T23:43:28 < bitmask> double spaced is a given 2018-06-20T23:43:43 < bitmask> I dont like going up to 14, i'll just submit as is 2018-06-20T23:43:43 < BrainDamage> the word count is what matters, not the page count, unless they are dicks 2018-06-20T23:43:56 < BrainDamage> just throw them a mail and ask the pointless question 2018-06-20T23:44:08 < zyp> bullshit, the quality of the content is what matters 2018-06-20T23:44:11 < BrainDamage> but they'll say it's ok 2018-06-20T23:44:14 < zyp> stop fucking around with useless metrics 2018-06-20T23:44:30 < zyp> write something good, nobody cares how long it is 2018-06-20T23:44:35 < bitmask> its already late, im not gonna get a good grade either way, well I think he likes my writing so I'll probably get a 90 (10 points off for being late) 2018-06-20T23:44:42 < BrainDamage> the quality is what matters, but for automatic rejection metrics and anal dicks it doesn't matter 2018-06-20T23:45:00 < bitmask> I think its good, I'll send it and see what happens 2018-06-20T23:45:15 < BrainDamage> there's people who put arbitrary limits or grade on a curve to put an appearance of difficulty on a course 2018-06-20T23:45:19 < bitmask> theres no fuller bullshit so its just better that way 2018-06-20T23:47:06 < zyp> BrainDamage, good thing I'm done with uni and everything 2018-06-20T23:47:13 < zyp> didn't encounter any of that shit in my time 2018-06-20T23:47:43 < BrainDamage> zyp: I've only met the arbitrary difficulty once, fortunately graded curves were forbidden where I did mine 2018-06-20T23:47:52 < BrainDamage> however, in the US it's common practice 2018-06-20T23:48:02 < zyp> good thing I'm not in the us 2018-06-20T23:48:05 < stvn> Anal dicks 2018-06-20T23:48:47 < bitmask> keep your dick away from my anal 2018-06-20T23:48:51 < BrainDamage> this is not tumblr, quoting and/or adding bold doesn't give you street cred 2018-06-20T23:48:57 < BrainDamage> at least put some originality 2018-06-20T23:49:06 < englishman> lol zyp noone is going to read that paper 2018-06-20T23:49:12 < stvn> CRACKED PACKAGES 2018-06-20T23:49:17 < englishman> quality is at the bottom of the list 2018-06-20T23:49:23 < zyp> haha 2018-06-20T23:49:31 < stvn> I’m downloading all 2018-06-20T23:49:46 < BrainDamage> also, in my univ career no course ever had graded homework 2018-06-20T23:50:05 < stvn> I think mine did 2018-06-20T23:50:07 < englishman> yeah who cares 2018-06-20T23:50:15 < englishman> 40% midterm 60% final 2018-06-20T23:50:15 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-20T23:50:16 < stvn> Those filthy tutorials 2018-06-20T23:50:37 < stvn> It’s the only way the curry puffs passed courses 2018-06-20T23:50:44 < zyp> most courses I had were 100% final 2018-06-20T23:51:01 < stvn> Jacking up their marks with everything other than the exam 2018-06-20T23:51:04 < zyp> except programming 101, that one didn't have a final 2018-06-20T23:51:12 < BrainDamage> all the courses had the basic assumption that you're a responsible adult and they didn't give a shit if you spent all day masturbating or not, as long as you proved your knowledge in the tests 2018-06-20T23:51:24 < BrainDamage> tests would be a mix of final and/or labs 2018-06-20T23:51:42 < stvn> And because I destroyed all those curry puffs exam time getting a HD was almost guaranteed 2018-06-20T23:51:46 < BrainDamage> no mandatory attendance except for the labs/tests, no mandatory homework 2018-06-20T23:52:07 < bitmask> depends on the type of class, this is one of those core requirements that everyone has to take, ethics... 2018-06-20T23:52:12 < bitmask> so writing papers is all you can do 2018-06-20T23:52:25 < Steffanx> I know someone that did the honours things like a real theepot. 2018-06-20T23:52:29 < Steffanx> -s 2018-06-20T23:53:19 < stvn> If it was 100% exam where I was, I’d be 1 of 10 people with a paper 2018-06-20T23:53:30 < zyp> I remember at last assignment in programming 101 I asked the prof «since I got 100% on all the other assignments already, do I even have to do this one to get an A?» 2018-06-20T23:53:43 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-20T23:53:50 < englishman> too bad stvn wasted his life replacing capacitors on cd players 2018-06-20T23:54:01 < stvn> ^ 2018-06-20T23:54:08 < zyp> «uh, just show me you understand recursion, and you got the A, you can skip the rest» 2018-06-20T23:54:14 < Steffanx> Wasnt it a good lesson mr stvn? 2018-06-20T23:54:27 < stvn> what was? 2018-06-20T23:54:56 < englishman> i got all the honours and shit, collected em like pokemans 2018-06-20T23:54:57 < Steffanx> And you're still 13 yo, so not much of your life wasted 2018-06-20T23:55:11 < Steffanx> but did you graduate with it, englishman? 2018-06-20T23:55:19 < englishman> its marked on the paper thing 2018-06-20T23:55:19 < stvn> Yeah 14 now 2018-06-20T23:55:34 < englishman> "this guy is real smart" - school prez 2018-06-20T23:56:32 < stvn> This guy is really good 2018-06-20T23:56:42 < stvn> He should turn, professional 2018-06-20T23:56:49 < englishman> yea so much for that 2018-06-20T23:57:06 < stvn> But you are stm32 pro 2018-06-20T23:57:14 < englishman> replacing capacitors on cd players is much more lucrative 2018-06-20T23:57:35 < stvn> Nah 2018-06-20T23:58:07 < Steffanx> The best skill i acquired is irc. Even got it on my linked in page. 2018-06-20T23:58:13 < BrainDamage> the only time I've ever got myself a perfect grade it was a total bullshit result in high school final grade after the profs got wind that I would continue to univ and since it was a shit high school they gifted me a perfect result so even if the school would be worth little it would show up as nice 2018-06-20T23:58:17 < stvn> Maybe I should add that too 2018-06-20T23:58:33 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-20T23:58:43 < stvn> I dropped out of high school 2018-06-20T23:59:08 < BrainDamage> don't forget to add entrapeneur to your titles if you do that 2018-06-20T23:59:16 < BrainDamage> and self taught 2018-06-20T23:59:27 < stvn> Entered uni as a mature age student and found the newer generation of young ppl to be dumb 2018-06-20T23:59:32 < Steffanx> Ill endorse it, stvn --- Day changed Thu Jun 21 2018 2018-06-21T00:00:11 < stvn> Thinking “if that’s what a high school grad does to your brain.......” 2018-06-21T00:01:34 < Steffanx> Drop out. So even you were a theepot 2018-06-21T00:01:41 < stvn> Yes 2018-06-21T00:02:02 < stvn> I was too busy getting stoned 2018-06-21T00:02:11 < Steffanx> Got smashed in a theepot smashing competition? 2018-06-21T00:02:19 < stvn> Nah 2018-06-21T00:02:36 < stvn> Capacitors 2018-06-21T00:02:58 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-21T00:03:18 < stvn> I have good memories of University, especially Andrew 2018-06-21T00:03:36 < BrainDamage> was andrew your soulmate? 2018-06-21T00:03:44 < stvn> No 2018-06-21T00:03:47 < BrainDamage> whom you shared the bed with? 2018-06-21T00:03:57 < stvn> His mastery of English was second to none 2018-06-21T00:04:00 < BrainDamage> roommate, still sharing bed 2018-06-21T00:04:08 < stvn> Agenda -> the gender 2018-06-21T00:04:09 < bitmask> did you keep his penis warm in your butthole? 2018-06-21T00:04:19 < BrainDamage> ah, so he swoon you with poetry 2018-06-21T00:04:29 < stvn> Boolean algebra -> bullion agebra 2018-06-21T00:05:20 < stvn> I have a txt document “English as a first language - Andrew” 2018-06-21T00:05:31 < bitmask> How do I celebrate finishing a paper without drugs?... 2018-06-21T00:05:39 < stvn> Like I did 2018-06-21T00:05:49 < stvn> Doing nothing 2018-06-21T00:05:55 < bitmask> well thats boring 2018-06-21T00:06:01 < Steffanx> Alcohol 2018-06-21T00:06:11 < bitmask> alcohol is worse than drugs 2018-06-21T00:06:12 < stvn> Nothing to celebrate 2018-06-21T00:06:25 < bitmask> stvn is correct 2018-06-21T00:06:38 < bitmask> its what should be done, nothing more nothing to celebrate 2018-06-21T00:06:48 < bitmask> still lame though 2018-06-21T00:06:48 < BrainDamage> I hate so much how any tongue jokes are partially lost in english 2018-06-21T00:07:03 < stvn> Indeed 2018-06-21T00:07:18 < stvn> I should speak Chinese 2018-06-21T00:07:24 < englishman> stay up past your bedtime 2018-06-21T00:07:33 < englishman> and chat on irc 2018-06-21T00:07:37 < bitmask> can you yell at the chinamen for me for screwing up my orders? 2018-06-21T00:07:43 < bitmask> sounds like a plan... 2018-06-21T00:07:44 < BrainDamage> you can make the reference about speaking in tongues, or how the latin root for language is tongue, but most would fail to grasp it 2018-06-21T00:07:57 < stvn> Indeed 2018-06-21T00:08:11 < stvn> I like my job 2018-06-21T00:08:23 < stvn> They told China to ship the assembly complete 2018-06-21T00:08:25 < stvn> So 2018-06-21T00:08:29 < bitmask> I got a bag of 24awg wire that was thinner than the bag of 28awg wire 2018-06-21T00:08:33 < stvn> China ship it in bits 2018-06-21T00:08:59 < BrainDamage> is it going to be published anywhere? 2018-06-21T00:09:23 < stvn> China 2018-06-21T00:09:54 < stvn> I have a friend in China 2018-06-21T00:10:03 < englishman> we all have a little chinese in us 2018-06-21T00:10:05 < Steffanx> Andrew? 2018-06-21T00:10:19 < stvn> She takes photos of stray cats for me 2018-06-21T00:10:25 < Steffanx> -_- 2018-06-21T00:10:31 < stvn> Around the university dorm 2018-06-21T00:10:35 < bitmask> ordered nozzles for my 3d printer as well as some gt2 belt and pulleys for my plotter and I got just the belt and pulleys, emailed them saying thats all I got, they said sorry we forgot to give you this other tracking number. got the next package with only 5 of the 24 nozzles I ordered, told them, they refunded me for the rest of the nozzles, got 4 more a few days later, maybe i'll still get those 10 too 2018-06-21T00:10:40 < bitmask> wow that was not worth typing up 2018-06-21T00:10:59 < BrainDamage> print a large buttplug and fuck yourself with it 2018-06-21T00:11:00 < stvn> The dirty cat 2018-06-21T00:11:00 < Steffanx> Does she make photos of theepots too, stvn? 2018-06-21T00:11:06 < stvn> N 2018-06-21T00:11:14 < Steffanx> If so you gotta hook me up 2018-06-21T00:11:17 < Steffanx> Awh 2018-06-21T00:11:30 < stvn> Never asked about theepot 2018-06-21T00:12:07 < stvn> I was going to ask her to give a client of mine a Shanghai gut punch 2018-06-21T00:12:13 < BrainDamage> ok, theepot is so obscure that even urban dictionary fails 2018-06-21T00:12:20 < Steffanx> Hah 2018-06-21T00:12:25 < stvn> Wilmer 2018-06-21T00:12:28 < Steffanx> T-pot. 2018-06-21T00:12:33 < stvn> An excellent name for a man 2018-06-21T00:12:40 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh49aM6zlsw 2018-06-21T00:13:00 < Steffanx> Try google translate, BrainDamage 2018-06-21T00:13:09 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWNurdAE-9U 2018-06-21T00:13:10 < stvn> Wilmer makes Chinese lighting with a 100% failure rating 2018-06-21T00:13:50 < englishman> ham radio theepot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmxFCVYT6BA 2018-06-21T00:13:51 < stvn> When I told him every dimmer failed he said “that’s imsoppsible” 2018-06-21T00:13:59 < stvn> I’ll never forget 2018-06-21T00:14:15 < bitmask> I recently got a response saying "sorry for your convenience" 2018-06-21T00:14:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T00:14:24 < stvn> Hahahahaha 2018-06-21T00:16:01 < zyp> dongs, black panther weren't that bad 2018-06-21T00:16:18 < Steffanx> Imho it wasnt that great 2018-06-21T00:16:19 < stvn> Is that a massage parlour 2018-06-21T00:17:13 < BrainDamage> is this another sexual innuendo? 2018-06-21T00:17:34 < BrainDamage> or was it merely because they are photoreflectively challenged? 2018-06-21T00:17:57 < Steffanx> I love you, BrainDamage 2018-06-21T00:18:04 < stvn> I don’t have a clue 2018-06-21T00:18:28 < englishman> where can you eat panthers in norway? 2018-06-21T00:18:37 < stvn> :) 2018-06-21T00:18:44 < zyp> we don't eat panthers, just whale 2018-06-21T00:18:47 < BrainDamage> I accidentally read partners and was about to suggest tinder 2018-06-21T00:19:03 < stvn> I wonder if Norway has a teapot smashing competition 2018-06-21T00:19:51 < zyp> don't smash my teapots 2018-06-21T00:20:17 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-21T00:20:26 < Steffanx> You can buy 2nd hand ones. 2018-06-21T00:20:33 < stvn> That’s what I do 2018-06-21T00:21:29 < stvn> When I’m on TV demonstrating I’ll make sure people know where the idea was conceived 2018-06-21T00:21:54 < stvn> 🍷🐈 2018-06-21T00:22:02 < Steffanx> 🦆 2018-06-21T00:26:05 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T00:27:26 < bitmask> gotzta fix muh SPI 2018-06-21T00:27:38 < Steffanx> Buttbang it. 2018-06-21T00:28:08 < Steffanx> I hope i made BrainDamage proud now 2018-06-21T00:28:12 < bitmask> nah, I had it working just fine with dma, just gotta figure out what I changed switching from cube to stdperiph 2018-06-21T00:31:42 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-95e0e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-21T00:36:01 < stvn> Why you leave cube? 2018-06-21T00:36:20 < stvn> Senpai told me it was great 2018-06-21T00:41:28 < BrainDamage> hentai with senpai 2018-06-21T00:44:09 < bitmask> I left cube because of lack of documentation, at least with stdperiph there was less confusion about how things worked 2018-06-21T00:44:09 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-21T00:44:14 < bitmask> cube just masks everything 2018-06-21T00:44:24 < bitmask> and then you are left to fend for yourself if you want anything customized 2018-06-21T00:44:47 < Steffanx> ll is all a man needs. 2018-06-21T00:48:48 < srk> bitmask: obfuscation layer! 2018-06-21T00:48:57 < stvn> Yeah 2018-06-21T00:48:57 < bitmask> meh whatever 2018-06-21T00:49:13 < Steffanx> Better get that tower up 2018-06-21T00:49:29 < srk> my ivory tower is high as fuck 2018-06-21T00:49:45 < bitmask> mine is girthy 2018-06-21T00:53:19 < BrainDamage> did you finish writing any code with that haskell lib of yours that goes beyond blinky hello world? 2018-06-21T00:54:05 < stvn> The steam train 2018-06-21T00:54:46 < Steffanx> Pudding canon 2018-06-21T00:55:55 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T01:01:14 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T01:10:10 < kakimir> 2018 and still mixed feelings about Trumpster 2018-06-21T01:10:28 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAM9gvH7gFE 2018-06-21T01:13:30 < Steffanx> Tldw; 2018-06-21T01:13:40 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-21T01:13:49 < stvn> The politics 2018-06-21T01:14:13 < stvn> Can only laugh..... 2018-06-21T01:14:54 < mawk> if I trigger a reset of some peripherals using RCC->AHBRSTR for instance they should be in the state they are at boot right ? 2018-06-21T01:15:45 < kakimir> stvn: but it's cool 2018-06-21T01:16:25 < mawk> for instance GPIO A 2018-06-21T01:17:45 < stvn> kakimir: was for a few days 2018-06-21T01:19:05 < Steffanx> Ya, mawk. Itll be the reset state you can find in the ref man. 2018-06-21T01:22:36 < mawk> I see 2018-06-21T01:23:19 < mawk> so, I'm doing a bootloader and if I reset GPIO A before relocating the vector table and passing control to the application code, the led (on GPIO A) won't blink 2018-06-21T01:23:38 < mawk> I'm just doing RCC->AHBRSTR |= RCC_AHBRSTR_GPIOARST; 2018-06-21T01:26:05 < mawk> I'm on a nucleo board, the L152RE 2018-06-21T01:27:42 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-21T01:29:15 < Steffanx> Do you clear the reset bit too? 2018-06-21T01:29:25 < mawk> I need to do that ? let me try 2018-06-21T01:30:13 < mawk> if the manual says "Access: no wait state" that means I can clear them right after setting them ? 2018-06-21T01:30:32 < mawk> or I have to stall for a bit 2018-06-21T01:35:07 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:81b7:691c:7aaf:1423] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-21T01:35:54 < mawk> yeah it works better that wya 2018-06-21T01:35:55 < mawk> thanks 2018-06-21T02:01:11 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-21T02:21:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T03:03:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-21T03:43:00 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-21T03:45:00 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T03:45:06 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-21T03:51:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T04:12:53 -!- c4017 [~c4017@S010664777dab66f3.vf.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T04:14:08 -!- c4017 [~c4017@S010664777dab66f3.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-21T04:14:33 -!- c4017 [~c4017@S010664777dab66f3.vf.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T04:16:28 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A329A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T04:20:45 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A320D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-21T04:21:01 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T05:07:35 -!- PeterM [~bgdwiepp@115-69-25-80-cpe.spintel.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T05:19:01 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T05:19:01 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-21T05:19:03 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-21T05:24:06 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T05:33:43 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T05:37:16 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-21T05:37:32 -!- fbu [~fbu@pl38561.ag1212.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T05:41:54 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-21T05:54:18 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T06:00:16 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-21T06:09:08 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T06:09:31 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T06:10:28 < Cracki> wow. just saw a chopped up human in a cooking pot on an open fire in some shithole country 2018-06-21T06:22:30 < Cracki> many such cases! sad! 2018-06-21T06:26:30 < dongs> fuck i wish i had a retarduino 2018-06-21T06:29:05 < englishman> but wait 2018-06-21T06:29:13 < englishman> if you order $0.02 of shit from arrow you get a FREE one 2018-06-21T06:30:42 < dongs> i just want a discovery board with a fucking pot attached to it 2018-06-21T06:30:47 < dongs> i cant find my box of waveshare trash that i think had one 2018-06-21T06:31:36 < dongs> but using pot to adjust pwm width would be literally like 2 lines in retarduino 2018-06-21T06:46:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T06:59:18 < dongs> and here i am still setting up a fucking F103 boilerplate project so i can actually write code 2018-06-21T06:59:22 < dongs> garbage 2018-06-21T07:10:52 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-21T07:24:29 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T07:25:05 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T07:28:21 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-21T07:28:22 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-21T07:49:04 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T07:51:21 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T07:54:35 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T08:03:04 < stvn> Dongs did someone delete windows and keil off your machine?? 2018-06-21T08:09:24 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-21T08:13:59 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T08:17:12 < dongs> no heh 2018-06-21T08:17:27 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-21T08:18:15 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T08:20:33 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-21T08:29:44 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T08:31:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T08:34:26 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-21T08:38:27 < Cracki> mbed prolly comes close to vanilla arduino in terms of "api" 2018-06-21T08:39:04 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-97b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T08:41:27 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T08:50:37 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@107.12.203.133] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T08:53:29 < englishman> https://www.blackhat.com/us-18/briefings/schedule/#tlbleed-when-protecting-your-cpu-caches-is-not-enough-10149 2018-06-21T08:56:15 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T08:56:49 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-21T08:57:00 < Cracki> everything's fucked and keeps getting more fucked 2018-06-21T09:00:27 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T09:17:48 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-21T09:24:48 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-21T09:24:58 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T09:28:21 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-97b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T09:30:41 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T09:33:04 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-21T09:40:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T09:46:47 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T09:50:01 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T10:03:50 < stvn> crackhat 2018-06-21T10:04:04 < stvn> NSA by design (Jews) 2018-06-21T10:13:04 < dongs> whats the best way to do exti-based (can't use timer) pulse counting and deal with IRQ lag? just have a min/max and discard values outside of it? 2018-06-21T10:41:46 < Simon--> IRQ lag? does arm even do that? I know avr leaks an instruction between interrupts (grumble) but I figured arm would service everything until there's nothing left before resuming 2018-06-21T10:44:29 < dongs> there's a bunch of exti happening 2018-06-21T10:44:38 < dongs> plus other shit in background (systick etc) 2018-06-21T10:45:10 < dongs> im seeing +- 20-200+ cycles difference between each hit when sending it solid pwm 2018-06-21T10:47:57 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T10:52:45 < Simon--> oh so like using cycle counter or some other timer as clock source and then checking whenever the interrupt fires? 2018-06-21T10:52:50 < Simon--> sounds very arduino ;) 2018-06-21T10:53:07 < Simon--> like all the atmega escs not using icp pin 2018-06-21T10:53:42 < Simon--> I guess if it's cycle counter, make your irq super high priority / preempt everything? 2018-06-21T10:56:05 < dongs> right cycle counter. 2018-06-21T10:56:12 < dongs> there's too much shit going on to use timers. 2018-06-21T10:59:44 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T11:05:21 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-21T11:05:53 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T11:14:51 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-21T11:17:59 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T11:19:46 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T11:32:46 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T11:39:32 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwrkopuhlbkwsgnq] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T11:55:20 < stvn> [[]] 2018-06-21T12:01:17 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-21T12:04:35 -!- learningc [~User@mti-37-145.tm.net.my] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T12:28:55 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/cjCHfO0.png damn sometimes the shit is pretty gay 2018-06-21T12:29:08 < dongs> i added a range to ignore and its still pretty crap 2018-06-21T12:33:54 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-21T12:35:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-21T12:37:32 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T12:57:31 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-95-223-40-64.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-21T12:57:39 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T13:05:43 < zyp> what's that? 2018-06-21T13:07:50 < Steffanx> Each time i open the imgur app and want to close it i see: 2018-06-21T13:07:54 < Steffanx> http://imgur.com/gallery/U8gfwp8 ty zyp 2018-06-21T13:08:20 < zyp> hmm? 2018-06-21T13:08:36 < Steffanx> Nice norway pic 2018-06-21T13:08:39 < zyp> ah 2018-06-21T13:08:56 < zyp> I've been thinking about buying a kayak 2018-06-21T13:19:48 < Steffanx> If the water in dutchland was this nice i would consider it too 2018-06-21T13:20:51 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-21T13:21:14 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T13:24:54 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-21T13:25:22 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T13:30:51 < stvn> a Norwegian vessel 2018-06-21T13:30:53 < dongs> zyp, graph of pulse width 2018-06-21T13:31:08 < dongs> its a rpm sensor 2018-06-21T13:31:09 < dongs> -ish 2018-06-21T13:31:20 < zyp> ah 2018-06-21T13:31:21 < stvn> i read integer app 2018-06-21T13:31:49 < dongs> but for ~reasons~ there's outliers in data 2018-06-21T13:31:51 < dongs> wiht pretty garbage results 2018-06-21T13:32:08 < zyp> looks like a perfect application for a median filter 2018-06-21T13:32:08 < dongs> im guessing coz its exti and lots of shit going on in bg 2018-06-21T13:32:50 < dongs> ya? 2018-06-21T13:32:59 < BrainDamage> yes, it'll discard the peaks 2018-06-21T13:33:17 < dongs> is there one in arm dsp pack? 2018-06-21T13:36:33 < dongs> i do wonder tho why i get some severly huge jitter 2018-06-21T13:36:39 < dongs> like befoer i added < 4000 to pass stuff 2018-06-21T13:36:48 < dongs> i'd have a pulse diff of a million+ points 2018-06-21T13:36:54 < dongs> i dont think IRQ delay can be that bad 2018-06-21T13:40:26 -!- User__ [~User@mti-37-145.tm.net.my] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T13:43:51 -!- learningc [~User@mti-37-145.tm.net.my] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T13:45:21 -!- User__ [~User@mti-37-145.tm.net.my] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-21T13:55:49 < jpa-> dongs: why exti and not timer input? 2018-06-21T13:56:39 < zyp> presumably because it weren't available 2018-06-21T13:58:45 < dongs> yes, not my hardware and etc 2018-06-21T13:59:56 < jpa-> if it is IRQ latency, you should see some pattern where one interval is too long and the next one is too short 2018-06-21T14:00:18 < dongs> no pattern 2018-06-21T14:00:50 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/H77vPZh.png 2018-06-21T14:00:52 < dongs> pretty random 2018-06-21T14:01:15 < zyp> jpa-, not if you have interrupts on both rising/falling and only measuring time between rising and falling, not between falling and rising or vice versa 2018-06-21T14:01:25 < jpa-> true 2018-06-21T14:01:27 < dongs> i only have it on falling 2018-06-21T14:01:36 < dongs> and measure between 2 exti calls 2018-06-21T14:01:55 < zyp> so you're measuring period, not duty? 2018-06-21T14:01:58 < jpa-> then it is quite suspicious that you only have outliers above and not below 2018-06-21T14:01:59 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-21T14:02:03 < dongs> duty is 50% anyway 2018-06-21T14:02:08 < dongs> its just a pulse counter basically 2018-06-21T14:02:38 < dongs> i wonder if i have some race condition shit 2018-06-21T14:02:43 < dongs> the vars involved are volatile 2018-06-21T14:03:22 < zyp> got some code to look at? 2018-06-21T14:03:43 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/rjojPy26.html its literally this 2018-06-21T14:04:05 < dongs> hwtim is 32bit timer running at sysclk with period of ffffffff 2018-06-21T14:04:49 < jpa-> ah so the graph is frequency and not period? 2018-06-21T14:04:52 < zyp> what types are the variables? 2018-06-21T14:04:58 < dongs> uint32 all of them 2018-06-21T14:05:17 < dongs> and the oens that are needed are s tatic 2018-06-21T14:05:24 < dongs> (tsprev? or ahtever) 2018-06-21T14:05:39 < jpa-> for a frequency graph, upward spikes would seem like you have some noise on the line 2018-06-21T14:05:51 < dongs> theres definitely noise 2018-06-21T14:06:16 < jpa-> you could have a check in your falling EXTI interrupt that checks if GPIO is 0 and only counts then 2018-06-21T14:06:35 < dongs> oh hm 2018-06-21T14:06:57 < jpa-> exti is very sensitive to even short noise pulses 2018-06-21T14:07:10 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/eHYiIEx.png < noise 2018-06-21T14:08:54 -!- learningc [~User@42.190.222.216] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T14:09:25 < zyp> so you have noise peaks on low that's almost 2V high, fed into a 3.3V IO? 2018-06-21T14:09:33 < zyp> s/almost/over/ 2018-06-21T14:10:25 < jpa-> looks pretty noisy indeed 2018-06-21T14:10:34 < jpa-> if you could modify hw, adding RC low pass might help 2018-06-21T14:10:46 < zyp> or use the digital filter on timer input 2018-06-21T14:10:47 < dongs> nope not my hw 2018-06-21T14:12:24 < jpa-> one way would be to have both rising and falling irq, and do some filtering like: in rising irq, verify gpio is 1 and previous accepted irq was falling, otherwise ignore the irq; in falling irq, verify gpio is 0 and previous accepted irq was rising and then compute times both falling - rising and rising - falling and check that they are close to equal if the duty should always be 50% 2018-06-21T14:12:45 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/ADHuqPQ.png 2018-06-21T14:13:08 < dongs> the steppy red line works by just ++'ing a counter in exti 2018-06-21T14:13:18 < dongs> then clearing it every 1s 2018-06-21T14:13:53 < dongs> and 1s thing just does value = counter; and resets counter to 0 2018-06-21T14:14:04 < dongs> and that doesnt have any weird peaks 2018-06-21T14:14:17 < dongs> if noise was a problem wouldn't it also count a shitload of extra pulses? 2018-06-21T14:14:33 < jpa-> it would count one extra pulse every time you have noise in the green line 2018-06-21T14:14:46 < jpa-> and with values of ~1500, you won't see +-1 on the graph 2018-06-21T14:15:31 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-176-198-151-30.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T14:15:41 < jpa-> to check for noise, you could toggle some gpio in the IRQ and then scope that together with the input signal to see if it follows it or not 2018-06-21T14:19:25 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-21T14:21:24 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T14:21:24 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-21T14:21:24 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T14:22:21 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/CygzZBT.png yeah its fucky 2018-06-21T14:33:35 < dongs> the problem with 1s pulse counting is my 1s pulse is also a software timer so that one is even more delayed +- 2018-06-21T14:34:21 < dongs> what makes a very high peak on exti tho? if its noise, shouldn't delta in my code be very small? 2018-06-21T14:34:51 < zyp> it's showing freq, right? 2018-06-21T14:34:53 < zyp> so 1/delta 2018-06-21T14:35:09 < dongs> oh right so small delta = hueg number 2018-06-21T14:35:13 < zyp> yup 2018-06-21T14:35:54 < dongs> so i could just return if delta is small? 2018-06-21T14:35:57 < zyp> if your scope trace is representative it looks like it's just sometimes trigging on rising edges as if they where falling 2018-06-21T14:36:07 < zyp> which explains why the spikes are around double 2018-06-21T14:36:21 < dongs> the spikes are huge if I don't filter them with tmp < 4000 2018-06-21T14:36:26 < dongs> like 1mil+ range 2018-06-21T14:36:29 < zyp> ah 2018-06-21T14:36:31 < zyp> right 2018-06-21T14:36:58 < zyp> so in other words, your input is total shit 2018-06-21T14:37:04 < dongs> for sure 2018-06-21T14:37:19 < dongs> i originalyl tested it with waevshare board sending pwm and it was super clean :p 2018-06-21T14:38:31 < zyp> maybe do what jpa- suggested then 2018-06-21T14:39:07 < zyp> interrupt on both edges, check actual level from gpio, reject interrupts where the level is wrong or the interrupt is otherwise unexpected 2018-06-21T14:39:18 < jpa-> with total shit input even that might not be enough though :P 2018-06-21T14:39:23 < zyp> true 2018-06-21T14:40:39 < zyp> looking at the graphs, median filter could still work 2018-06-21T14:41:51 < dongs> looks like smallest delta is 326 2018-06-21T14:42:00 < dongs> sysclks 2018-06-21T14:42:04 < dongs> lemme try ignoring evryhting below that 2018-06-21T14:46:57 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/A8LkRMM.png ignoring delta < 100k and just return;'ing makes it better but still glitches sometimes 2018-06-21T14:47:00 < dongs> damn 2018-06-21T14:53:58 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T14:54:41 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-21T14:58:41 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T15:02:38 < dongs> looks like arm dsp thing only has biquad and fir filters 2018-06-21T15:03:06 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-21T15:03:14 < zyp> you don't need a dsp library to make a median filter 2018-06-21T15:03:27 < zyp> just keep the last n samples, then pick the median from those 2018-06-21T15:03:35 < dongs> i know man, im lazy tho 2018-06-21T15:03:51 < jpa-> http://paste.dy.fi/0tx/plain i use this 2018-06-21T15:04:07 < dongs> thats like 3 tap one or whaetver 2018-06-21T15:04:20 < zyp> yes 2018-06-21T15:04:27 < jpa-> yeah, it can eliminate at max one spike 2018-06-21T15:04:44 < jpa-> though because your spikes are always at one direction, you could also just take the maximum of latest N deltas 2018-06-21T15:05:16 < zyp> yeah, that's probabl even better 2018-06-21T15:06:45 < dongs> so with delta at 320... if thats 72MHz ticks, that means it was 320/72 (us/ticks) = 4.4us? 2018-06-21T15:07:07 < dongs> and 1/that is 227kHz 2018-06-21T15:09:45 < Lux> or just ignore whatever is above your max frequency ? if that's 2k it could work 2018-06-21T15:17:51 < dongs> how come pulse counting and resetting every second works? 2018-06-21T15:18:12 < dongs> the problme there is that the value only updates every second so its kinda shitty to track rpm 2018-06-21T15:18:40 < zyp> because with pulse counting you're averaging over a thousand pulses and a few extra doesn't affect the result 2018-06-21T15:19:18 < zyp> have you tried just using the max out of the last n deltas yet? 2018-06-21T15:40:26 < mawk> in a bootloader I guess I have to prevent IRQs and systick from firing while I manipulate things like the vector table; so I disabled everyone with NVIC->ICER, disabled the SysTick countdown interrupt, and hopefully the loaded application will re-enable all itself 2018-06-21T15:40:28 < mawk> is it enough ? 2018-06-21T15:41:27 < jpa-> fun fact: "average of deltas" is more sensitive to noise than "count of pulses" also because extra edge causes two delta values to be wrong, while only adds one pulse 2018-06-21T15:41:27 -!- learningc [~User@42.190.222.216] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T15:42:05 < jpa-> mawk: why not just disable interrupts with the __disable_irq() instruction? 2018-06-21T15:42:15 < mawk> because the target application doesn't re-enable them 2018-06-21T15:42:16 < jpa-> CPSID I or whatever it is in assembler 2018-06-21T15:42:25 < mawk> but that's what I started with, yes 2018-06-21T15:43:32 < mawk> I figured out that if I do that I have to __enable_irq() right before jumping to the target application, but then an interrupt could fire before the reset routine finished, which doesn't sound good 2018-06-21T15:46:42 < jpa-> true 2018-06-21T15:47:38 < jpa-> i usually design my bootloaders so that either the enter or the exit (or both) go through system reset 2018-06-21T15:48:33 < zyp> same 2018-06-21T15:49:57 < zyp> bootloader is always entered through reset and at the beginning of bootloader it does as little as possible before determining whether to jump to application or run bootloader mode 2018-06-21T15:50:34 < zyp> https://cgit.jvnv.net/arcin/tree/bootloader.cpp#n277 2018-06-21T15:52:13 < zyp> I only enable gpios so I can check bootloader condition 2018-06-21T15:52:38 < jpa-> https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/ebike-controller/blob/master/src/bootloader.c#L185 i also enable usart so that i can print hello world! 2018-06-21T15:53:14 < dongs> no (void) in functions??? 2018-06-21T15:53:17 < zyp> line 290 checks whether to start bootloader mode or normal mode, and only after that is systick and whatever initialized 2018-06-21T15:53:21 < dongs> fired 2018-06-21T15:53:41 < dongs> not even valid C 2018-06-21T15:53:42 < zyp> dongs, that's a C thing, this is C++ 2018-06-21T15:53:49 < dongs> no, jpa's code 2018-06-21T15:53:52 < zyp> oh 2018-06-21T15:53:54 < dongs> void bootloader_main() 2018-06-21T15:54:00 < jpa-> valid enough for gcc! 2018-06-21T15:54:03 < dongs> jpa->ovan(); 2018-06-21T15:54:07 < dongs> oven, too 2018-06-21T15:54:13 < zyp> well, the (void) shit is kinda stupid 2018-06-21T15:54:16 < dongs> nope 2018-06-21T15:54:18 < zyp> I tend to omit it in C too 2018-06-21T15:54:20 < dongs> () looks retareded 2018-06-21T15:54:40 < jpa-> dongs: how mad would you be if i had written just bootloader_main() 2018-06-21T15:54:57 < dongs> i mean, if y ou enjoyt miles of warnings scrolling by, by all means 2018-06-21T15:55:16 < dongs> but then you'd also need to return a value 2018-06-21T15:55:27 < dongs> or else have another warning. 2018-06-21T15:55:55 < zyp> the whole (void) thing is inconsistent, every other kind of empty listing of shit is empty, not void 2018-06-21T15:56:04 < dongs> like whaT? 2018-06-21T15:56:10 < dongs> where else do you have an empty listing 2018-06-21T15:56:14 < dongs> you mean when calling a function? 2018-06-21T15:56:34 < zyp> yeah, that's one example 2018-06-21T15:56:46 < dongs> there arent any others, that i can think of in C antyway 2018-06-21T15:56:50 < zyp> {} 2018-06-21T15:56:59 < dongs> ? for array? 2018-06-21T15:57:01 < zyp> yes 2018-06-21T15:57:12 < mawk> dongs: () in C has a special meaning 2018-06-21T15:57:13 < dongs> thats... not something that has parameters to pass 2018-06-21T15:57:30 < dongs> mawk, it has no special meaning. it means the coder is an asshole 2018-06-21T15:57:33 < mawk> lol 2018-06-21T15:57:46 < mawk> it lets you pass as many parameters as you want 2018-06-21T15:57:53 < dongs> fuck no 2018-06-21T15:57:59 < mawk> then through assembly or whatever you exploit that 2018-06-21T15:58:16 < zyp> that's why it's stupid 2018-06-21T15:58:36 < zyp> if you wanna take an arbitrary number of arguments, use variadic functions, not just () 2018-06-21T16:08:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:09:35 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:09:40 -!- jaeckel [~jaeckel@unaffiliated/jaeckel] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:10:17 -!- learningc [~User@210.195.71.190] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:13:00 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:22:32 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-21T16:25:53 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-21T16:25:54 -!- dan3wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:25:54 -!- dan3wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-21T16:25:54 -!- dan3wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:26:23 -!- dan3wik is now known as dan2wik 2018-06-21T16:40:41 < Lux> that's like the first thing i learned in a c++ course at the university 2018-06-21T16:41:10 < Lux> can't imagine anyone using () in c the with arguments though 2018-06-21T16:41:25 < Lux> just like #include somefile.c 2018-06-21T16:45:56 -!- learningc [~User@210.195.71.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T16:46:14 -!- learningc [~User@210.195.71.190] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:48:12 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Quit: quit has dan2wik!] 2018-06-21T16:52:16 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:52:16 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-21T16:52:16 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T16:55:54 < zyp> true 2018-06-21T16:56:06 < zyp> it's just legacy bullshit 2018-06-21T16:57:31 < c10ud> does this look right to you guys? https://imgur.com/a/pUhsDrs 2018-06-21T16:58:24 < c10ud> this is such a simple issue I don't even..but I'm puzzled since ltspice gives me 3.5V on 3.3V out, wtf 2018-06-21T16:58:52 < zyp> is MCU or UART1 the 3.3V side? 2018-06-21T16:59:24 < c10ud> mcu is 5V 2018-06-21T16:59:29 < c10ud> uart1 3.3v 2018-06-21T17:00:54 < c10ud> this is what puzzles me though: https://imgur.com/a/WYZbPjM 2018-06-21T17:01:25 < c10ud> oh right the 3.3v is applied on the source, ok 2018-06-21T17:02:06 < c10ud> thing is I fucked up the level shifting on the prototype and I was looking if I could get away with it by simply mirroring the nmos 2018-06-21T17:03:05 < zyp> why are you using a transistor to shift down the voltage? I thought you'd only do that to shift it up 2018-06-21T17:03:16 < zyp> to shift it down, just use a resistor or a divider or something 2018-06-21T17:04:30 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:04:30 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T17:05:05 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:05:05 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T17:05:17 < c10ud> zyp, when doing the schematic I conveniently forgot the line isn't bi directional 2018-06-21T17:05:44 < c10ud> I suppose I could fix it properly now, yes 2018-06-21T17:17:59 < jpa-> c10ud: what NMOS is that in ltspice? 2018-06-21T17:18:11 < jpa-> note that the circuit only works for logic level mosfets 2018-06-21T17:18:36 < jpa-> for generic mosfets the Vgs is usually ~5V or so and that means the fet will never turn on and it will just work like a crappy diode 2018-06-21T17:18:50 < jpa-> considering your 0V becomes 0.7V, it seems to me that that is what is happening 2018-06-21T17:20:11 < c10ud> it was the standard model 2018-06-21T17:20:21 < c10ud> in fact with bss123 it becomes worse (3.6V) 2018-06-21T17:20:58 < jpa-> true, it probably leaks some current also 2018-06-21T17:21:01 < c10ud> btw, I tried bidi level shifting maybe also because it didn't consume power while pull-up was active..but I guess 2:1 resistors should be fine 2018-06-21T17:21:12 < jpa-> not that 3.6V would hurt anything usually 2018-06-21T17:21:42 < jpa-> but having the low level be >0.5V could easily cause signal integrity trouble 2018-06-21T17:22:12 < c10ud> yeah I have to fix the board anyway 2018-06-21T17:22:34 < c10ud> I should better fix it properly for the next run 2018-06-21T17:24:59 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@107.12.203.133] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-21T17:25:18 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:25:25 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:32:45 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-21T17:35:01 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:35:01 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-21T17:35:01 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:35:06 -!- Laurenceb__ [2501cf46@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.1.207.70] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:35:11 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T17:35:17 < Laurenceb__> https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-65661943.html 2018-06-21T17:37:34 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:42:41 < karlp> out the front door? back into public land. your land is .... over there 2018-06-21T17:44:11 < karlp> stairs, stairs everywhere 2018-06-21T17:44:34 < zyp> https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-65661943.html 2018-06-21T17:44:37 < zyp> whoops 2018-06-21T17:45:37 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 2018-06-21T17:46:19 -!- Laurenceb__ [2501cf46@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.1.207.70] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-21T17:47:45 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T17:48:38 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:52:30 -!- dan3wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:52:30 -!- dan3wik [dan2wik@2a07:5741:0:12ee::1] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-21T17:52:30 -!- dan3wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T17:52:33 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-21T17:52:58 -!- dan3wik is now known as dan2wik 2018-06-21T18:18:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-21T18:21:42 -!- ohsix [~ohsix@208.100.156.192] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T18:29:56 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-21T18:33:21 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-21T18:34:55 -!- learningc [~User@210.195.71.190] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T18:38:42 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-21T18:49:25 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T18:59:20 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T19:07:49 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T19:10:41 < Steffanx> id buy if i had the money :D 2018-06-21T19:11:19 < Steffanx> and change the inners a bit. 2018-06-21T19:14:10 < Steffanx> I like em big. 2018-06-21T19:21:35 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-21T19:30:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-21T19:37:07 < emeb> that was a weird exchange to arrive in the middle of 2018-06-21T19:37:26 < emeb> but I assume Steffanx is talking about that tower. 2018-06-21T19:43:06 < Ultrasauce> a generous assumption indeed 2018-06-21T19:46:49 < Steffanx> 2018-06-20T23:03:15 < BrainDamage> you're supposed to reformulate things in a sexual innuendo way .. i continued doing that emeb :P 2018-06-21T19:47:15 < Steffanx> and it was a response to Laurenceb__ posting something nice: https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-65661943.html 2018-06-21T19:50:10 < emeb> Whoa - 2018-06-21T19:50:17 * emeb checks weather report for hell 2018-06-21T19:51:16 < Steffanx> !wz emebtown 2018-06-21T19:51:17 < englishbot> Unable to locate query. 2018-06-21T20:00:24 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T20:00:42 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3ee3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T20:11:09 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-21T20:12:12 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T20:18:54 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T20:21:07 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T20:31:29 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T20:32:00 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T20:36:46 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/W5obxyX9/coincidence.PNG 2018-06-21T20:40:02 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwhohyixjokfjybv] by ChanServ 2018-06-21T20:40:04 < Steffanx> go sleep you. 2018-06-21T20:40:20 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwhohyixjokfjybv] by ChanServ 2018-06-21T20:43:26 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T20:49:08 < invzim> pros.. any way to get if current part is xxxRx or xxxVx? Got two different projects where one uses a 100pin and the other a 64pin of the same family and would like to make sure I don't accidentally OTP flash the wrong part 2018-06-21T20:49:11 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iwrkopuhlbkwsgnq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-21T20:49:21 < karlp> here's a memsize register 2018-06-21T20:50:08 < karlp> it's in the "device electronic signature" section of the refman 2018-06-21T20:50:20 < karlp> (and it's not 100pin vs 64pin) 2018-06-21T20:51:27 < invzim> lists flash and unique id 2018-06-21T20:51:33 < jpa-> i would just check for some gpios to identify the chip 2018-06-21T20:51:56 < jpa-> (or rather, identify the board) 2018-06-21T20:52:07 < karlp> invzim: yes..... 2018-06-21T20:52:21 < invzim> they're of the same family and same flash size to make it interesting :) 2018-06-21T20:52:47 < karlp> then you're a moron for designing your system 2018-06-21T20:53:02 < jpa-> eh :D 2018-06-21T20:53:02 < invzim> nah, I'm smart so I can reuse most of the code :) 2018-06-21T20:53:15 < karlp> better hope you ahve something on board you can pull/push to detect then 2018-06-21T20:53:15 < jpa-> i wouldn't call him moron for using the same chip on two projects :P 2018-06-21T20:53:32 < invzim> jpa-: yeah, that's an interesting approach, can probably do that 2018-06-21T20:53:43 < karlp> if you're plannign on being in an environment where you need to select automatically what you're flashing? yeah, 2018-06-21T20:54:05 < karlp> it sounds like the same project, just lite/pro versions. 2018-06-21T20:54:22 < jpa-> .. though, i have exactly the same issue, multiple different kinds of devices that use the same cpu and same flashing tool, and OTP to store serial number, and sometimes people end up flashing serial number for wrong kind of device, i should also add some protection to the app eventually 2018-06-21T20:54:27 < invzim> not automatically, it's two completely different boards - but want to use the same bootloader as I've put so many hours in it 2018-06-21T20:54:57 < invzim> and that bootloader has some 'factory init' code 2018-06-21T21:02:21 -!- ivanshmakov [~user@tunnel35660-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T21:12:48 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T21:16:56 < englishman> !wz feenix 2018-06-21T21:16:56 < englishbot> Unable to locate query. 2018-06-21T21:17:00 < englishman> !wz feenix, arizoner 2018-06-21T21:17:01 < englishbot> Unable to locate query. 2018-06-21T21:17:46 < jpa-> !wz englishman's dick 2018-06-21T21:17:48 < englishbot> Unable to locate query. 2018-06-21T21:23:10 < Steffanx> Hello welcome jpa-. How are you today? 2018-06-21T21:23:40 < jpa-> pretty ok 2018-06-21T21:23:47 < jpa-> lazy as usual 2018-06-21T21:24:15 < Steffanx> Hah. Im glad to hear that 2018-06-21T21:24:24 < Steffanx> And a late happy birthday 2018-06-21T21:24:42 < jpa-> very late, considering my birthday is in september :P 2018-06-21T21:25:08 < Steffanx> But junior petteri a... 2018-06-21T21:25:18 < jpa-> oh the baby parrot 2018-06-21T21:25:25 < jpa-> :) 2018-06-21T21:26:23 < Steffanx> Hah. Indeed 2018-06-21T21:27:01 < jpa-> it's midsummer tomorrow 2018-06-21T21:28:28 < Steffanx> How does a finnisher celebrate that? 2018-06-21T21:28:38 < Steffanx> (dutchies dont) 2018-06-21T21:28:46 < jpa-> typical finnisher just gets drunk and drowns 2018-06-21T21:28:59 < Steffanx> Ah dont die. 2018-06-21T21:29:01 < jpa-> but me being me i'll probably sit in front of computer and irc 2018-06-21T21:29:17 < BrainDamage> drunk and irc or drown and irc? 2018-06-21T21:29:33 < Steffanx> Lets celebrate together then 2018-06-21T21:33:40 < englishman> hmm 2018-06-21T21:33:46 < englishman> i should double down on my 0 death bet then 2018-06-21T21:33:55 < englishman> now that i know the pettererioriririilll family won't die 2018-06-21T21:34:24 < Steffanx> You forgot some Ns 2018-06-21T21:35:13 < Steffanx> An all finnish names end with "önen" 2018-06-21T21:35:36 < jpa-> some end in 'lä' also 2018-06-21T21:35:40 < englishman> n with umlaut or with ruotsalainen 2018-06-21T21:39:06 < jpa-> we did consider taking the canoe to see the celebrations & bonfire nearby, but with 8m/s winds i think we won't be doing that 2018-06-21T21:39:52 < jpa-> the canoe would really have like it, though 2018-06-21T21:40:10 < englishman> this year i was smart and bought all the blackpowder and fuse i would need back in february before everyone else 2018-06-21T21:40:25 < BrainDamage> so it's damp and touchy by now? 2018-06-21T21:40:43 < englishman> yes especially volatile 2018-06-21T21:45:13 < zyp> jpa-, not saturday? 2018-06-21T21:45:36 < jpa-> everything always happens the night before 2018-06-21T21:46:06 < jpa-> we celebrate first of may on 30.4., christmas on 24.12. etc. 2018-06-21T21:46:57 < zyp> haha, wat 2018-06-21T21:48:25 < jpa-> i think the point is to be drunk enough that one easily gets past the actual day when all stores are closed etc. 2018-06-21T21:48:37 < jpa-> drunk / hung over 2018-06-21T21:49:47 < zyp> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_John%27s_Eve <- this shit is what we technically celebrate here 2018-06-21T21:50:10 < zyp> and apparently Saint John's day is on sunday, so eve is saturday, which is when we celebrate shit 2018-06-21T21:50:30 < Steffanx> Let's party. 2018-06-21T21:50:41 < jpa-> ah, here we moved the actual day to always be on saturday because otherwise we would lose precious days of work 2018-06-21T21:50:51 < zyp> haha 2018-06-21T21:51:05 < zyp> it's not a holiday anyway 2018-06-21T21:51:26 < zyp> celebrations are usually limited to the afternoon anyway 2018-06-21T21:53:50 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.109.184] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T21:53:50 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.109.184] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-21T21:53:50 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T21:54:21 < englishman> zyp, cool 2018-06-21T21:54:27 < englishman> the st-jean is also the national holiday here 2018-06-21T21:55:44 < englishman> and also with fire 2018-06-21T21:59:47 < Steffanx> We do that with easter. But those germans are worse. 2018-06-21T22:02:54 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-222.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T22:12:54 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T22:19:49 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T22:20:21 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T22:24:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T22:29:05 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-21T22:44:15 < vampi-the-frog> I got a bunch of 2x10 female pin headers for that waveshare ULPI board 2018-06-21T22:44:26 < vampi-the-frog> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB3300-USB-HS-Board-Host-OTG-USB-high-speed-PHY-device-for-ULPI-interface-Evaluation-Development/571009273.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.7fec76a7rYkn1W&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_10343_10340_10341_10696_10084_10083_10618_10304_10307_10820_10821_10301_10059_306_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_43,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=bbe1bb6f-b4d7- 2018-06-21T22:44:26 < vampi-the-frog> 4444-a196-b590d59cfd23-0&algo_pvid=bbe1bb6f-b4d7-4444-a196-b590d59cfd23&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0 2018-06-21T22:44:29 < vampi-the-frog> fuck 2018-06-21T22:44:50 < vampi-the-frog> this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB3300-USB-HS-Board-Host-OTG-USB-high-speed-PHY-device-for-ULPI-interface-Evaluation-Development/571009273.html 2018-06-21T22:45:54 < Steffanx> Any cheapskate pcb manufacturer that does plated slots? 2018-06-21T23:05:37 < stvn> I hope 2018-06-21T23:07:26 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-21T23:08:10 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T23:08:34 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T23:09:17 < bitmask> ugh, so I just walked through step by step the initialization that cube does for spi and made notes, now I gotta walkthrough on the code that doesn't work in stdperiph and see whats different. with my luck I didnt write down the right info 2018-06-21T23:12:33 < Steffanx> awh 2018-06-21T23:14:14 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T23:19:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T23:19:54 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-21T23:28:11 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-21T23:31:42 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T23:36:16 -!- arha_ [~temp@5-12-214-76.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T23:37:28 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-222.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-21T23:38:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-21T23:39:11 -!- arha [~temp@188.25.167.183] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-21T23:39:24 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-21T23:39:48 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.62.249] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-21T23:47:06 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] --- Day changed Fri Jun 22 2018 2018-06-22T00:07:33 < bitmask> it worked! 2018-06-22T00:07:36 < bitmask> amazing 2018-06-22T00:07:54 < bitmask> I'm back to where I started :P 2018-06-22T00:09:50 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-22T00:10:38 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T00:22:00 < stvn> Cool! 2018-06-22T00:22:36 < Steffanx> 😎 2018-06-22T00:28:48 < kakimir> I had exciting dream last night 2018-06-22T00:30:54 < Steffanx> Was stvn there? 2018-06-22T00:31:17 < stvn> IRC 2018-06-22T00:31:30 < kakimir> no 2018-06-22T00:31:34 < kakimir> weird times 2018-06-22T00:31:36 < kakimir> darkness 2018-06-22T00:33:28 < Steffanx> 🛌 2018-06-22T00:33:49 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PAXT3JxA/IMG_1509.JPG 2018-06-22T00:34:09 < Steffanx> Déjà vu 2018-06-22T00:36:04 < stvn> The equipped cat 2018-06-22T00:36:57 < kakimir> it seems like it wasn't any of current seasons.. just dark 2018-06-22T00:37:04 < kakimir> maybe cold 2018-06-22T00:37:11 < kakimir> no snow 2018-06-22T00:38:31 < kakimir> and there was dragons in shadows on ground everywhere moving slowly lurking 2018-06-22T00:39:28 < kakimir> and we drive that road with gang like it was nothing new 2018-06-22T00:41:00 < kakimir> not like big ones but like human sized about 2018-06-22T00:43:12 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-3ee3e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-22T00:45:26 < Steffanx> I cant formulate a proper response to this 2018-06-22T00:45:30 < Steffanx> Sleep well kakimir 2018-06-22T00:47:25 < kakimir> I did 2018-06-22T00:52:28 < zyp> kakimir, isn't that just typical finland? 2018-06-22T00:53:23 < BrainDamage> the dragons? 2018-06-22T00:55:05 < kakimir> I was sitting on pick up van outside behind the cabin and looking into forrest where ground was slowly moving 2018-06-22T00:56:40 < BrainDamage> everytime people talk about their dreams I feel like I am missing out a lot :/ 2018-06-22T00:57:19 < srk> I only dream during night if I stop smoking weed 2018-06-22T00:57:19 < englishman> ARROW is advertising on reddit now 2018-06-22T00:57:56 < englishman> it was dark? in Finland? On the solstice? 2018-06-22T00:58:10 < BrainDamage> winter solstice 2018-06-22T00:58:20 < englishman> ah yes 2018-06-22T00:58:20 < kakimir> you know 2018-06-22T00:58:41 < kakimir> darkness fucks you in head 2018-06-22T00:58:50 < kakimir> slowly 2018-06-22T00:58:59 < kakimir> you don't even notice 2018-06-22T01:02:14 < kakimir> you notice when suddenly there is very bright and warm radiation 2018-06-22T01:02:38 < kakimir> and actually realize it was one long night 2018-06-22T01:02:45 < kakimir> months of night 2018-06-22T01:05:20 < kakimir> nightshift basically 2018-06-22T01:05:37 < Cracki> suddenly 2018-06-22T01:05:43 < Cracki> 1 degree above the horizon 2018-06-22T01:05:48 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-22T01:05:55 < kakimir> that is like first time 2018-06-22T01:06:03 < kakimir> holy shit is that sun? 2018-06-22T01:06:09 < kakimir> it's so warm 2018-06-22T01:06:30 < kakimir> air is -20celsius and you are like "so warm!" 2018-06-22T01:06:32 < Cracki> don't you people get toasted from below all year? 2018-06-22T01:06:39 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-22T01:07:01 < BrainDamage> what? 2018-06-22T01:07:13 < kakimir> and that is like only tease when sun first comes visible 2018-06-22T01:07:29 < kakimir> Cracki: what does that mean? 2018-06-22T01:07:37 < stvn> Ya 2018-06-22T01:07:38 < Cracki> geothermally 2018-06-22T01:07:45 < BrainDamage> that's iceland, not finland 2018-06-22T01:07:50 < Cracki> some places even heat their sidewalks with electricity 2018-06-22T01:07:51 < Cracki> ic 2018-06-22T01:07:58 < BrainDamage> you're mixing up karlp with kakmir 2018-06-22T01:08:00 < Cracki> ah, you're just drinking firewater 2018-06-22T01:08:47 < kakimir> there is geothermal heat 2018-06-22T01:09:01 < kakimir> but not much 2018-06-22T01:09:49 < BrainDamage> must conserve heat for sauna 2018-06-22T01:11:16 < kakimir> that reminds me 2018-06-22T01:11:50 < kakimir> englishman: you need to go to forrest to get some logs for your sauna 2018-06-22T01:11:54 < kakimir> to build it 2018-06-22T01:12:15 < kakimir> and collect granite for stove 2018-06-22T01:17:34 < kakimir> oh shit 2018-06-22T01:17:47 < kakimir> I have missed a scifi movie 2018-06-22T01:18:01 < kakimir> The Core (2003) 2018-06-22T01:20:14 < BrainDamage> jesus h. christ 2018-06-22T01:20:20 < BrainDamage> that was one fucking awful movie 2018-06-22T01:20:38 < kakimir> ? 2018-06-22T01:22:28 < BrainDamage> the core, is an awful movie 2018-06-22T01:25:51 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-22T01:26:00 < stvn> That disease of a film 2018-06-22T01:26:21 < stvn> It really is a bucket of severed dicks 2018-06-22T01:28:05 < kakimir> BrainDamage: I can see 2018-06-22T01:28:11 < kakimir> it's hollywood scifi 2018-06-22T01:28:21 < stvn> Don’t do it 2018-06-22T01:29:00 < kakimir> I think I partially lost my hearing today 2018-06-22T01:29:43 < kakimir> I was @ 2km and god cold and bored and there was full overcast moving front of sun 2018-06-22T01:29:57 < kakimir> *gott cold 2018-06-22T01:31:15 < stvn> Where’d you get that scar tough guy? Eatin’ pussy? 2018-06-22T01:34:09 < kakimir> so I shoved stick full forward and then started leveling it to some 200-230kmh and kept it for maybe 5-8minutes to decent 1500meters 2018-06-22T01:36:13 < kakimir> seams of cannopy were whistling so loud that when I landed I could not hear with my left ear 2018-06-22T01:37:21 < kakimir> very loud tinnitus in left ear now 2018-06-22T01:40:37 < stvn> Gotta make that into a tv show 2018-06-22T01:41:02 < stvn> Stm32 wilderness 2018-06-22T01:42:53 < kakimir> I cannot believe that it can be possible to damage hearing in motorless airplane 2018-06-22T01:44:06 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-22T02:02:41 < englishman> a sauna is included in the next major house renovation 2018-06-22T02:02:54 < englishman> until then we have cats 2018-06-22T02:35:18 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T02:39:59 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-22T02:40:26 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T03:09:35 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T03:10:24 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T03:16:01 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-22T03:28:00 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T04:00:00 < R0b0t1> karlp: The microphone example for the STM32L4 from ST uses F4 code apparently by accident 2018-06-22T04:00:07 < R0b0t1> I forget why I thought I should tell you 2018-06-22T04:03:57 < upgrdman> kakimir, got any video of your flights? 2018-06-22T04:05:45 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-22T04:07:04 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-22T04:15:13 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A3278C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T04:19:33 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A329A6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-22T04:22:45 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T04:23:26 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T04:29:03 < R0b0t1> Can someone help with some compilation errors? 2018-06-22T04:29:08 < R0b0t1> https://bpaste.net/show/480097a648e4 2018-06-22T04:29:13 < R0b0t1> https://bpaste.net/show/7123afb7e493 2018-06-22T04:29:17 < R0b0t1> It's like the struct isn't defined 2018-06-22T04:39:38 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T04:41:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.62.249] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T04:55:40 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T04:58:32 -!- Streak_r [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T04:58:57 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T05:00:21 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-22T05:13:53 -!- Streak_r [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-22T05:15:18 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T05:17:03 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-22T05:17:05 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T05:29:50 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T05:32:21 < R0b0t1> Issue was missing struct as suspected 2018-06-22T05:32:27 < R0b0t1> Had to define which nucleo board to use 2018-06-22T05:32:39 < R0b0t1> Are there any development boards that are populated with HS USB? 2018-06-22T05:33:27 < R0b0t1> Some F7 boards have chips that support it but notably the development offerings don't claim HS support and likely lack the ULPI driver 2018-06-22T06:01:35 < dongs> yes, the 144pin nucleo has a HS phy i think 2018-06-22T06:01:36 < dongs> lemme look 2018-06-22T06:02:34 < dongs> ah nope it doesnt 2018-06-22T06:02:37 < dongs> F743disco does tho 2018-06-22T06:04:22 < aandrew> I'm ont aware of any stm32 with on-chip HS PHY 2018-06-22T06:04:25 < aandrew> all want ULPI 2018-06-22T06:04:47 < dongs> right, so F7 disco has ULPI phy 2018-06-22T06:05:11 < aandrew> orly 2018-06-22T06:05:15 < dongs> https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/32f746gdiscovery.html 2018-06-22T06:05:16 < dongs> this one 2018-06-22T06:05:16 < dongs> yes 2018-06-22T06:05:25 < dongs> USB OTG HS with Micro-AB connectors 2018-06-22T06:05:25 < dongs> USB OTG FS with Micro-AB connectors 2018-06-22T06:05:36 < aandrew> wait you said disco not nucleo 2018-06-22T06:05:39 < dongs> https://www.st.com/content/ccc/fragment/product_related/rpn_information/board_photo/group0/ea/c4/6d/73/c3/f5/46/e2/stm32f746g-disco/files/stm32f746g-disco.jpg/_jcr_content/translations/en.stm32f746g-disco.jpg 2018-06-22T06:05:47 < dongs> yeah i thought nucleo first then looked at my pile of boards and corrected 2018-06-22T06:05:56 < aandrew> I have that disco 2018-06-22T06:05:59 < dongs> the ULPI chip is next to the USB plug closest to ethernet 2018-06-22T06:06:15 < dongs> i have 2 of htem 2018-06-22T06:06:19 < dongs> got both for free 2018-06-22T06:06:23 < dongs> for attending some ST weebinar 2018-06-22T06:06:53 < dongs> Comprehensive free software including a variety of examples, part of STM32Cube package 2018-06-22T06:06:56 < dongs> "comprehensive" 2018-06-22T06:07:05 < dongs> that's one word i wouldbn't use with cubeanything 2018-06-22T06:09:51 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T06:10:11 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:11:20 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:14:45 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-22T06:18:05 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T06:21:53 < dongs> zyp: the chinacopter is no idea what wifi but its not -ac 2018-06-22T06:22:12 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-22T06:22:13 < dongs> it uses AR1021X which is abgn 2018-06-22T06:22:30 < dongs> and Hi3518E ip camera SoC for the wifi streaming shite lol 2018-06-22T06:23:40 < dongs> its on the last channel in 5ghz band 2018-06-22T06:24:55 < dongs> 5795MHz, channel 157 or someshit 2018-06-22T06:28:45 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:29:14 < dongs> clicked t o 'try new gmail' 2018-06-22T06:29:24 < dongs> 30 seconds later im looking for "get teh fuck out of here": button 2018-06-22T06:29:36 < dongs> time to learn how to outlook 2018-06-22T06:35:21 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T06:35:30 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:36:28 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-22T06:36:37 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:38:43 < dongs> i fucking hate tabbed browsing so FUCKING MUCH 2018-06-22T06:38:54 < dongs> need to find a page I know i have open: good fucking luck 2018-06-22T06:39:13 < dongs> because i clicked something and a fucking new tab opeened in taht window 2018-06-22T06:41:47 < R0b0t1> I am not happy 2018-06-22T06:42:02 < R0b0t1> I ported the microphone example to GCC but my generated toolchain doesn't work for some reason 2018-06-22T06:42:02 < dongs> cypress giving you shit? 2018-06-22T06:42:14 < dongs> what microphone edxsample 2018-06-22T06:42:15 < dongs> also why gcc 2018-06-22T06:43:01 < R0b0t1> https://www.st.com/en/ecosystems/x-nucleo-cca02m1.html with a nucleo-l476rg and the x-cube-memsmic code 2018-06-22T06:43:10 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T06:43:23 < dongs> oh i thoguth ti was R2PRO blogging 2018-06-22T06:45:34 < R0b0t1> What is R2COM doing with cypress? 2018-06-22T06:46:02 < dongs> he's behind thier new dualcore PSuCK6 2018-06-22T06:46:05 < dongs> M4+M0+ 2018-06-22T06:46:39 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:47:11 < R0b0t1> So when are Cypress parts going to support code authentication 2018-06-22T06:47:33 < dongs> why? you got something to hide? 2018-06-22T06:49:04 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:50:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:50:55 < upgrdman> hi 2018-06-22T06:51:06 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T06:52:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.63.60] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T06:52:52 < upgrdman> not much. 2018-06-22T06:53:46 < upgrdman> had a plumber come out to replace the trim in my shower (faucet, valve, head) and when removing the faucet one of the pipes broke :/ had to punch a hole in my wall to solder on some new pipe 2018-06-22T06:54:04 < upgrdman> at least it didnt break slowly and unnoticed 2018-06-22T06:54:39 < dongs> lunix shower 2018-06-22T06:55:05 < upgrdman> it wasnt his fault 2018-06-22T06:55:10 < dongs> how so lol 2018-06-22T06:55:41 < upgrdman> i watched him, he wasnt careless. the copper pipe was old and corroded and like crumbled where the faucet set-screw was 2018-06-22T06:55:45 < R0b0t1> dongs: Gotta protect myself from the Chinese G-men 2018-06-22T06:56:04 < johntramp> I have two systems which I want to get their clocks as close to synchronous as possible (sub millisecond is fine) by communicating over bluetooth. I have some code which is triggering interrupts based on link-layer RX/TX activity and am able to but the cget a common sync event down to ~30 microseconds, locks quickly drift away as you'd expect. Is there typically a way which the PLL or anything can be 2018-06-22T06:56:05 < johntramp> configured to subtly adjust the drift of a clock? or any other way you guys may suggest I adjust for the drift? 2018-06-22T06:57:06 < upgrdman> luckily the hole he had to make was behind my fridge :) 2018-06-22T06:57:17 < upgrdman> so i can half-ass patch it and no one will notice 2018-06-22T06:58:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.63.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T07:00:06 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.63.60] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T07:01:33 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-22T07:11:54 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-22T07:13:30 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-22T07:15:44 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T07:18:07 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/9UsxoxY 2018-06-22T07:20:21 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T07:21:30 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T07:24:23 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T07:27:27 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T07:27:32 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-22T07:41:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@73.109.63.60] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T07:44:26 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T07:59:22 < Cracki> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgI3CpOW0AMqDUw.jpg:orig 2018-06-22T07:59:40 < Cracki> wait why isn't that hting hanging on the wall anymore? 2018-06-22T08:00:27 < Cracki> I'm curious about the torsion forces on the linear rails 2018-06-22T08:00:40 < Cracki> the first one anyway 2018-06-22T08:00:59 < bitmask> I just hang it on the wall for storage, it ended up being a lot bigger than I expected :) 2018-06-22T08:01:45 < bitmask> I havent drawn anything since its all be put together, I just fixed my SPI issue today that was preventing communication with the RPi 2018-06-22T08:01:56 < bitmask> all been* 2018-06-22T08:02:00 < bitmask> I'm tired, I need sleep 2018-06-22T08:03:04 < Cracki> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgQBvYsUYAAP2Of.jpg:orig 2018-06-22T08:03:38 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 2018-06-22T08:03:43 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-22T08:09:37 -!- Streake_ [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-22T08:15:26 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-22T08:16:01 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T08:16:40 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T08:24:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T08:35:07 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T09:13:58 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T09:39:12 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-22T09:42:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-28b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T09:57:31 -!- Steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-22T09:57:57 -!- Steffanx [~quassel@unaffiliated/steffanx] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T10:02:48 < stvn> Cool 2018-06-22T10:05:09 < stvn> It is cool 2018-06-22T10:05:47 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T10:07:27 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T10:09:03 < stvn> I bet he is orcading his way to the top 2018-06-22T10:17:41 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-28b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T10:19:10 < Steffanx> Why dont you orcad and finally be productive stvn? 2018-06-22T10:21:19 < stvn> protium 2018-06-22T10:23:19 < zyp> dongs, yours arrived today? 2018-06-22T10:23:22 < zyp> seems like mine did too 2018-06-22T10:23:42 < zyp> just need to drop by post office to pick it up 2018-06-22T10:32:24 < Steffanx> Oh zyp did impulse buy the copter? :d 2018-06-22T10:33:25 < Thorn> moneyed westerners 2018-06-22T10:35:56 < Steffanx> Most of the things i would impulse buy on aliexpress are mostly bought by russians. (According to those buyer lists) 2018-06-22T10:37:51 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T10:43:35 < zyp> there, now I have mine also 2018-06-22T10:45:37 < zyp> "Do not touch the propeller in the working rotation, otherwise it may be damaged by serious life property." 2018-06-22T10:48:20 < zyp> packaging isn't very impressive, box is a bit crushed and one propeller got a bent tip 2018-06-22T10:51:48 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T10:52:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@62.119.166.1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T10:58:00 < PaulFertser> zyp: what model? 2018-06-22T10:58:12 < zyp> JXD-528 2018-06-22T11:01:49 < stvn> The dogs 2018-06-22T11:08:27 < zyp> hmm, my phone is not finding the wifi it's supposed to connect to 2018-06-22T11:11:18 < zyp> could be because I'm at the office now and there's >20 other networks around me 2018-06-22T11:14:11 < Steffanx> Your copter knows you should be woeking right now.;) 2018-06-22T11:14:19 < Steffanx> Working* 2018-06-22T11:14:51 < Steffanx> A feature build in for the chinese. 2018-06-22T11:20:11 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-22T11:20:20 < stvn> Pump hour much 2018-06-22T11:23:18 < zyp> heh, laptop found it and managed to connect, phone still doesn't see it 2018-06-22T11:41:05 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T11:41:51 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T11:54:57 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T11:55:20 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-22T12:10:52 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T12:19:37 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T12:46:26 < karlp> Cracki: electrically heated footwalks sounds a bit ridiculous. we use the outgoing hot water from house heating for it here. 2018-06-22T12:46:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T12:48:37 * karlp wonders why R0b0t1 still persists with their broken toolchain creations. 2018-06-22T12:53:09 < karlp> how much did you guys pay for this? you got some special deal right? 2018-06-22T12:53:14 < karlp> and did you get the "white" or the "black" ? 2018-06-22T12:56:29 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-22T13:02:05 < dongs> < zyp> hmm, my phone is not finding the wifi it's supposed to connect to 2018-06-22T13:02:12 < dongs> zyp, same fucking problem. try an old chinaphone 2018-06-22T13:02:26 < dongs> i blogged a bit about its network stuff earlier. 2018-06-22T13:02:32 < dongs> its either a or n, not ac 2018-06-22T13:04:08 < zyp> yeah, I found my laptop doesn't even have ac 2018-06-22T13:05:36 < dongs> how the fuck do you connect to it with laptop 2018-06-22T13:05:43 < dongs> or you mean just to its access point and do nothing after? 2018-06-22T13:05:46 < zyp> yes 2018-06-22T13:05:57 < karlp> shit's gotta be broken if your phone won't recognise anything other than ac 2018-06-22T13:06:07 < dongs> i think its the channel they picked 2018-06-22T13:06:13 < zyp> my phone obviosuly works with non-ac stuff 2018-06-22T13:06:16 < dongs> its out of valid range for a lot of areas 2018-06-22T13:06:22 < zyp> ah, that makes sense 2018-06-22T13:09:21 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-22T13:18:49 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T13:18:50 < Steffanx> Lol 2018-06-22T13:19:19 < Steffanx> Id wifi analyze (android tm) it 2018-06-22T13:19:25 < Steffanx> I like that app 2018-06-22T13:19:49 < zyp> what app? 2018-06-22T13:19:53 < dongs> wifi analyzer 2018-06-22T13:20:01 < dongs> thats how i found it was at the end of spectrum 2018-06-22T13:20:02 < zyp> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer <- this shit? 2018-06-22T13:20:04 < dongs> yes 2018-06-22T13:20:12 < dongs> fapproc 2018-06-22T13:20:14 < zyp> which channel is it at? 2018-06-22T13:20:21 < dongs> 157 2018-06-22T13:20:30 < dongs> i blogged this, scroll up (or i will) 2018-06-22T13:20:39 < dongs> < dongs> 5795MHz, channel 157 or someshit 2018-06-22T13:20:43 < dongs> < dongs> it uses AR1021X which is abgn 2018-06-22T13:20:45 < dongs> < dongs> and Hi3518E ip camera SoC for the wifi streaming shite lol 2018-06-22T13:22:03 < zyp> wikipedia says those are SRD in europe 2018-06-22T13:22:52 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-22T13:22:58 < zyp> possible to hack it? :p 2018-06-22T13:23:07 < dongs> well, its LUNIX 2018-06-22T13:23:09 < dongs> filthy fucking lunxi 2018-06-22T13:23:16 < dongs> i should get chinagirl to ask if they have frequency set program 2018-06-22T13:23:46 < dongs> have you tried opening webbrowser at the camera ip 2018-06-22T13:23:51 < dongs> since its literally a fucking ip camera 2018-06-22T13:23:53 < dongs> (on laptop) 2018-06-22T13:23:58 < zyp> haha, no 2018-06-22T13:24:00 < dongs> see if you get a typical web UI with settings 2018-06-22T13:24:31 < dongs> rtsp://192.168.x.y:554/user=admin&password=&channel=&stream=.sdp?real_stream--rtp-caching=100 2018-06-22T13:24:35 < dongs> see if you can rtsp stream video 2018-06-22T13:24:42 < dongs> apparently thats hisilicon camera stream url 2018-06-22T13:26:14 < zyp> okay, let's see 2018-06-22T13:27:49 < dongs> my laptop ses it too 2018-06-22T13:27:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T13:28:16 < zyp> it replies to ping on 192.168.11.10 2018-06-22T13:28:20 < dongs> gmm it sees it but not connecting 2018-06-22T13:28:27 < dongs> o there it is 2018-06-22T13:28:35 < zyp> yeah, it connects really slow 2018-06-22T13:28:54 < dongs> ok according to laptop its 802.11n 2018-06-22T13:29:00 < dongs> and ya channel 157 2018-06-22T13:29:03 < dongs> so not a or ac 2018-06-22T13:29:06 < dongs> lying chinqs 2018-06-22T13:29:59 < dongs> hm no web ui 2018-06-22T13:30:03 < dongs> at least not on :80 or 8008 2018-06-22T13:30:06 < dongs> dinner time 2018-06-22T13:30:45 < zyp> yeah, I'm figuring out how to run nmap on windows so I can portscan it 2018-06-22T13:31:58 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rodyeugxllyzuunt] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T13:32:31 < zyp> dns and telnet is open, apparently 2018-06-22T13:34:20 < zyp> yeah, telnet gives a login prompt, idk what the password is 2018-06-22T13:37:06 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-22T13:37:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T13:38:48 < dongs> root / xmhdipc ? 2018-06-22T13:41:03 < zyp> no 2018-06-22T13:41:54 < stvn> nmap 2018-06-22T13:41:54 < stvn> now on computers 2018-06-22T13:44:33 < zyp> apparently I'm just gonna disassemble the entire thing now :p 2018-06-22T13:44:47 < dongs> i already did, its like 30 screws 2018-06-22T13:44:50 < dongs> of 3 diferent sizes 2018-06-22T13:44:57 < zyp> yeah, I'm halfway 2018-06-22T13:44:59 < dongs> theres nothing interesting inside 2018-06-22T13:45:15 < dongs> F301 48qfp, that hikvision shit and atheros wifi module 2018-06-22T13:45:24 < dongs> and some china gps i have no idea what type didnt peel the silver enough 2018-06-22T13:51:33 < zyp> cute swd pads 2018-06-22T13:52:41 < dongs> ya 2018-06-22T13:52:50 < dongs> i was too lazy to solder shit to it to see if firmware is opensore 2018-06-22T13:52:53 < dongs> i kinda doubt it 2018-06-22T13:54:34 < zyp> cute wifi antennas 2018-06-22T13:54:59 < dongs> not very cutely soldered 2018-06-22T13:55:12 < dongs> who needs u.fl rite 2018-06-22T13:55:20 < zyp> haha 2018-06-22T13:56:41 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@2a02:810c:ccc0:292e::b69] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-22T13:58:13 < tomeaton17> Wow seeeeeeeeedstudio quality check is absolutely trash, one of my pcbs had a trace hanging off nice 2018-06-22T14:00:27 < dongs> > seedstudio 2018-06-22T14:00:33 < dongs> do you evne allpcb.com 2018-06-22T14:00:41 < dongs> shitstudio is like the lowest quality trash 2018-06-22T14:00:48 < zyp> heh, the hi3518 is conformal coated 2018-06-22T14:01:03 < dongs> no its underflow 2018-06-22T14:01:04 < dongs> or whatever 2018-06-22T14:01:06 < Thorn> I don't seeed any more 2018-06-22T14:01:07 < dongs> the epoxy around it 2018-06-22T14:01:17 < dongs> underfill 2018-06-22T14:01:18 < zyp> oh, right, that's what I meant 2018-06-22T14:01:22 < Thorn> pcbway/allpcb all the way 2018-06-22T14:01:47 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DtRPJ2crTA 2018-06-22T14:01:51 < zyp> five test points around it, wonder if there's a uart 2018-06-22T14:02:10 < tomeaton17> My boss wanted to go with seeeedstudio "because we've used them before" only once and that was also a bad experience 2018-06-22T14:04:36 < tomeaton17> Anyway im leaving in a month so thats their problem 2018-06-22T14:06:34 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T14:06:34 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-22T14:06:36 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-22T14:09:53 -!- ski7777 [~quassel@ip5b437013.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T14:11:26 < zyp> dongs, looks like this wifi module is hooked up via usb 2018-06-22T14:13:02 < dongs> correct 2018-06-22T14:13:25 < dongs> zyp, .bin firmware is plain text lol 2018-06-22T14:13:26 < dongs> in apk 2018-06-22T14:13:40 < zyp> yeah? 2018-06-22T14:15:19 < dongs> yeh its def ARM code 2018-06-22T14:15:23 < dongs> vector table at start 2018-06-22T14:15:34 < zyp> i.e. firmware for the f3? 2018-06-22T14:15:39 < dongs> as far as i can tell yes 2018-06-22T14:15:49 < dongs> hik shit runs lunuix 2018-06-22T14:15:51 < dongs> this is 56k .bin 2018-06-22T14:16:02 < zyp> fair enough 2018-06-22T14:16:19 < zyp> I wanna get into the lunix so I can switch wifi to a sane channel or something :p 2018-06-22T14:16:27 < dongs> and start vector is 20003338 and irq vectors are like 08001269 or someshit 2018-06-22T14:16:28 < dongs> sounds like stm32? 2018-06-22T14:16:46 < zyp> you mean stack vector? 2018-06-22T14:16:49 < dongs> yeah 2018-06-22T14:16:49 < Haohmaru> sounds like vegan pizza 2018-06-22T14:17:03 < zyp> yeah, sounds reasonable 2018-06-22T14:17:33 < dongs> not a single string in firmware 2018-06-22T14:17:38 < dongs> i wonder how much of it is stolen from baseflight 2018-06-22T14:17:44 < Thorn> 3338 is 13112 2018-06-22T14:17:56 < Thorn> weird address for top of stack 2018-06-22T14:18:10 < zyp> agreed, but valid 2018-06-22T14:18:17 < karlp> bah. 2018-06-22T14:18:41 < zyp> maybe they put globals after stack instead of before 2018-06-22T14:18:48 < karlp> test equipment has internal timers, so you can say "run this much current for x milliseconds" 2018-06-22T14:18:53 < karlp> docs say "minimum is 20ms" 2018-06-22T14:19:05 < karlp> running it for 2000ms. scope shows a ~1300ms pulse 2018-06-22T14:19:07 < jpa-> i sometimes do static uint32_t my_stack[2048]; and then it just gets placed wherever 2018-06-22T14:19:18 < karlp> hwo the fuck am I meant to be getting accurate measurements with that!? 2018-06-22T14:20:08 < Thorn> why is there no hardware high water mark for stack in cortex :/ 2018-06-22T14:20:08 < dongs> jpa-: wat? 2018-06-22T14:20:13 < zyp> dongs, do you have a copy of the firmware file? 2018-06-22T14:20:15 < dongs> and do some dicker script fuckery? 2018-06-22T14:20:18 < dongs> zyp sure 2018-06-22T14:20:19 < dongs> thre's 2 2018-06-22T14:20:23 < dongs> any preferred file dump place? 2018-06-22T14:20:31 < zyp> Thorn, v8m is adding it 2018-06-22T14:20:36 < zyp> bin.jvnv.net works 2018-06-22T14:20:47 < Thorn> when I want to find out how much stack I'm using I look at ram in ozone and find the end of random data 2018-06-22T14:20:58 < dongs> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/oiNy1/JXD528_50_V6.bin 2018-06-22T14:21:04 < jpa-> dongs: no linker script fuckery, just uint32_t vectors[] = {(uint32_t)&my_stack + sizeof(mystack) .. } 2018-06-22T14:21:08 < dongs> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/nuYfi/JXD528_200_V20.bin 2018-06-22T14:21:15 < dongs> jpa-: oh.. 2018-06-22T14:21:19 < dongs> gross. :p 2018-06-22T14:21:23 < jpa-> i know :) 2018-06-22T14:21:59 < Thorn> has anyone bothered to release any v8m silicon? (I think I asked that a year ago lol) 2018-06-22T14:22:49 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-22T14:24:08 < Thorn> ok looks like I need to debug 4 boards at the same time :/ 2018-06-22T14:24:48 < dongs> https://twitter.com/japantimes/status/1010077503669579778 why japanese people 2018-06-22T14:26:21 < Thorn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHrCI9eSJGQ beautiful 2018-06-22T14:26:40 < dongs> risky click of hte day 2018-06-22T14:26:59 < dongs> ok not bad 2018-06-22T14:31:57 < DisruptiveNL> The CS SPI on STM32 I do not get ;-) 2018-06-22T14:32:07 < dongs> thats easy 2018-06-22T14:32:17 < dongs> just toggle it with gpio 2018-06-22T14:32:18 < dongs> done 2018-06-22T14:32:24 < dongs> there's no automatic cs 2018-06-22T14:35:53 < dongs> that timelapse needs a map overlay 2018-06-22T14:35:55 < dongs> showing position 2018-06-22T14:36:04 < PeterM> i was just thinking that 2018-06-22T14:36:18 < dongs> he could have easily done it too, probly, if camera could geotag the pics 2018-06-22T14:39:30 < DisruptiveNL> I have connected SD-MMC-SPI but the NSS does nothing and the CS pin on the STM32L476RG is not acting like I would expect 2018-06-22T14:42:19 < dongs> ? 2018-06-22T14:42:36 < dongs> what do ytou expect it to do 2018-06-22T14:43:10 < dongs> and why arent you using sdio 2018-06-22T14:44:25 < DisruptiveNL> SPI is less wires? 2018-06-22T14:44:48 < DisruptiveNL> and I have to connect CS to GND (ground) to make it work... 2018-06-22T14:45:13 < DisruptiveNL> But I also have a MEMS shield on my nucleo-stm32l476rg with SPI1 sensors... 2018-06-22T14:45:21 < dongs> 1 bit SDIO is ... 3 wires... 2018-06-22T14:45:56 < DisruptiveNL> well it sort of works with SPI but the CS is really strange 2018-06-22T14:45:58 < dongs> anyway you havent answered what do you expect CS to do 2018-06-22T14:46:32 < jpa-> i expect CS pin to give DisruptiveNL several weeks worth of trouble :P 2018-06-22T14:46:42 < DisruptiveNL> dongs ... I thougt it would go ¨PULLUPED¨ before CMD and ¨PULLEDDOWN¨ after 2018-06-22T14:46:50 < DisruptiveNL> hahaha jpa ... yes 2018-06-22T14:47:16 < dongs> does your code make it do so? 2018-06-22T14:47:22 < dongs> its not gona do shit unless you tell it to 2018-06-22T14:47:27 < DisruptiveNL> I have SPI-MMC(SD) working but with CS on ground... that cannot be the case 2018-06-22T14:47:40 < dongs> the fuck is spi-mmc 2018-06-22T14:47:41 < DisruptiveNL> haha i tell it to do so indeed 2018-06-22T14:47:44 < dongs> some arduino library? 2018-06-22T14:47:46 < DisruptiveNL> no 2018-06-22T14:47:49 < DisruptiveNL> Nuttx 2018-06-22T14:47:49 < jpa-> chibios :P 2018-06-22T14:47:50 < jpa-> oh 2018-06-22T14:47:52 < dongs> . 2018-06-22T14:47:55 < dongs> k im outa here 2018-06-22T14:47:57 < DisruptiveNL> ChibiOS also 2018-06-22T14:48:01 < jpa-> i thought you were using chibios the last time i saw you :P 2018-06-22T14:48:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@62.119.166.1] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-22T14:48:14 < DisruptiveNL> Yes also... but I tried both 2018-06-22T14:48:51 < DisruptiveNL> ChibiOS is really cool... but Nuttx also haha 2018-06-22T14:49:09 < jpa-> but yeah, both just drive the pin as GPIO 2018-06-22T14:49:19 < DisruptiveNL> Only getting this SPI stuff working... pfft I have to go back to Microchip hahaha 2018-06-22T14:49:21 < jpa-> so you could check with debugger if the GPIO pin is configured & set correctly 2018-06-22T14:49:45 < kakimir> Laurenceb: article 11 & 13 2018-06-22T14:49:53 < DisruptiveNL> And it has to go +V before command and 0 (GND) after right? 2018-06-22T14:50:07 < jpa-> no, usually the opposite IIRC 2018-06-22T14:50:22 < jpa-> i think CS is usually low to be active, but can't remember for sure now 2018-06-22T14:50:31 < DisruptiveNL> oke I will check it 2018-06-22T14:50:41 < DisruptiveNL> Why the reaction about Nuttx?? 2018-06-22T14:50:47 < DisruptiveNL> from dongs 2018-06-22T14:51:20 < jpa-> he prefers arduino SDK and nuttx feels too much like lunix for him 2018-06-22T14:51:27 < DisruptiveNL> ah ok 2018-06-22T14:52:22 < DisruptiveNL> Well I really like both RTOSses. Where ChibiOS for me still is more intuitive.. but I want to learn Nuttx also... just because we can hahaha 2018-06-22T14:55:43 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-22T14:58:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T15:06:29 -!- noonien [uid162445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rodyeugxllyzuunt] has left ##stm32 [] 2018-06-22T15:10:20 < zyp> dongs, I'm poking at JXD528_50_V6.bin in IDA 2018-06-22T15:10:24 < dongs> ya? 2018-06-22T15:10:45 < zyp> file appears to be linked for 0x8001000, so there's apparently a bootloader in front of it 2018-06-22T15:10:46 < dongs> i would but I dont have stm32 peripheral/etc maps for any modern parts, only for f103 2018-06-22T15:10:51 < dongs> aha 2018-06-22T15:10:59 < dongs> ya wouldnt surprise me too much 2018-06-22T15:11:03 < zyp> I don't have anything, just fucking around with the code itself 2018-06-22T15:13:48 < Thorn> are there official svd files for stm32? 2018-06-22T15:14:12 < Thorn> ozone only comes with 2 (for f103 and some f4 iirc) 2018-06-22T15:14:22 < dongs> ? 2018-06-22T15:14:23 < dongs> of course? 2018-06-22T15:14:32 < dongs> for all of them, either on arm.com somewehre or keil isntaller has it 2018-06-22T15:14:43 < Thorn> >keil 2018-06-22T15:17:53 < dongs> https://www.keil.com/pack/doc/CMSIS/SVD/html/svd_SVDConv_pg.html 2018-06-22T15:17:55 < dongs> oh hm 2018-06-22T15:20:39 < dongs> https://www.techbliss.org/threads/ida-pro-loadprocconfig-by-alex-hide.931/ 2018-06-22T15:20:39 < dongs> neat 2018-06-22T15:29:44 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T15:33:11 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T15:33:18 < aandrew> word, yo 2018-06-22T15:33:22 < aandrew> I gotta get into idea 2018-06-22T15:33:23 < aandrew> er ida 2018-06-22T15:33:55 < dongs> im paying around ~$3k a year subscription for that trash 2018-06-22T15:34:02 < dongs> ida+hexgays arm/x86/x64 2018-06-22T15:34:29 < aandrew> heh 2018-06-22T15:34:39 < aandrew> I would not be buying it. I use it so infrequently it wouldn't be worth it to learn 2018-06-22T15:34:47 < aandrew> how much RE are you using? holy cow 2018-06-22T15:35:10 < Steffanx> Cloner.pro 2018-06-22T15:35:34 < dongs> ya i gotta thieve all that IP cuz I can't come up wiht anything on my own 2018-06-22T15:35:58 < aandrew> heh 2018-06-22T15:36:09 < aandrew> I think dongs would be worried about cloners, not to be a cloner 2018-06-22T15:37:49 < sync> he is worried about cloners cloning his cloned cloner ip 2018-06-22T15:39:43 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-22T15:40:28 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T15:42:02 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-22T15:49:36 < dongs> https://github.com/alexhude/LoadProcConfig/blob/master/Configurations/stm32f40x.cfg hm that looks like a fairly sane format 2018-06-22T15:50:50 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-22T15:52:53 < Thorn> kakimir landing https://www.instagram.com/p/BkUdTGCl3We/ 2018-06-22T15:55:10 < dongs> what is that trash, a glider? 2018-06-22T15:55:23 < dongs> lol @ instagram site not having a fucking seek bar 2018-06-22T15:55:30 < dongs> what the fuck absolute trash 2018-06-22T15:58:13 < aandrew> dongs: what're you trying to do? have a generic way of describing an MCU's memory map? 2018-06-22T15:58:59 < dongs> aandrew: nah, just looking for a decent way to get periphral maps into IDA to help with RE 2018-06-22T15:59:09 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-22T15:59:12 < dongs> that plugin looks good, but I'd need to script/write some C# shit to turn SVD -> that configuration format it expects 2018-06-22T15:59:22 < dongs> im way to lazy to do that and im sure something like that already exists anywaty 2018-06-22T16:00:31 < aandrew> yeah 2018-06-22T16:00:45 < aandrew> srs though you do enough RE that you've got legit licenses for ida? 2018-06-22T16:00:55 < dongs> occasionally 2018-06-22T16:01:05 < dongs> its worth keeping a current sub cuz buying it new is more expensive :p 2018-06-22T16:01:10 < aandrew> the last time I did serious RE was back in the 386 days with soft-ice 2018-06-22T16:05:41 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T16:38:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T16:39:16 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uwhohyixjokfjybv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-22T16:41:42 < zyp> I wonder if there's some rtos or shit in that binary 2018-06-22T16:41:58 < zyp> init code does a lot of weird stuff 2018-06-22T16:45:22 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b80011c8001c4734d883324476.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T16:54:39 < PaulFertser> zyp: do you expect to find anything that would allow you to log in to change the frequency in that firmware binary or is it just curiousity? I wonder if it might be possible to brute-force the telnet password. Or probably to get the whole SoC firmware dump somehow. 2018-06-22T16:55:09 < jpa-> wouldn't that be a totally different chip than the one with the linux + wifi? 2018-06-22T16:55:17 < PaulFertser> Hence I'm asking 2018-06-22T16:55:21 < jpa-> ok 2018-06-22T16:56:38 < zyp> PaulFertser, no, just satisfying curiosity 2018-06-22T16:57:01 < zyp> the soc firmware is stored in a spi flash, so it should be easy enough to dump 2018-06-22T16:57:12 < zyp> but I don't have a LA or anything available at the moment 2018-06-22T16:57:36 < PaulFertser> zyp: have you seen https://gist.github.com/gabonator/74cdd6ab4f733ff047356198c781f27d ? 2018-06-22T16:58:12 < zyp> ah, cool 2018-06-22T16:58:26 < zyp> I'll try that later 2018-06-22T16:59:21 < PaulFertser> spi flash should be easy, you can probably attach most ftdi based jtag adapters and dump with flashrom if you desolder it or just keep the SoC in reset so it Hi-Z the pins. 2018-06-22T17:00:55 < PaulFertser> Hi3518E stuff linked from there: https://gist.github.com/JanLoebel/b5dafcda555323785d32ccb7d643dbcd 2018-06-22T17:07:29 -!- inf [~informati@unaffiliated/informatic] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T17:11:22 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T17:16:01 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-22T17:18:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-22T17:21:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T17:24:49 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-22T17:35:08 < aandrew> hm weird 2018-06-22T17:35:26 < aandrew> I can't find 5v-tolerant LVDS transmitters (CMOS in, LVDS out) 2018-06-22T17:43:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T17:50:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-22T17:51:24 < kakimir> it's not 2018-06-22T17:51:26 < kakimir> weird 2018-06-22T17:52:03 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T17:53:20 -!- Drzacek [~Drzacek@200116b80011c8001c4734d883324476.dip.versatel-1u1.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-22T17:53:56 < aandrew> well 5V ones are $4, 3.3V ones are $0.90 2018-06-22T17:54:11 < aandrew> and 5V tolerant I/O is needed for this application since the image sensor wants 5V 2018-06-22T17:54:26 < aandrew> it'll accept 3V on its inputs but will drive 5V on the outputs 2018-06-22T17:54:38 < kakimir> unidir lines? 2018-06-22T17:54:55 < kakimir> just condition the signals 2018-06-22T17:55:03 < aandrew> I just don't want to 2018-06-22T17:55:34 < aandrew> sensor -> converter -> SE/LVDS ---> LVDS/SE -> is stupid 2018-06-22T17:55:48 < aandrew> actually I don't have to LVDS/SE at the other end because it's going into an FPGA 2018-06-22T17:55:56 < kakimir> how fast signals we are talking about? 2018-06-22T18:02:17 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.109.184] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T18:02:17 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.27.109.184] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-22T18:02:17 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T18:09:31 -!- botnico [~sk@tsih.opaya.de] has quit [Quit: botnico has no reason] 2018-06-22T18:14:41 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T18:15:17 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-22T18:51:29 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-22T18:58:08 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T19:09:50 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T19:57:30 -!- dfgg [~damian@62-210-38-95.rev.poneytelecom.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T19:57:51 < Steffanx> Awh karlp 2018-06-22T19:57:56 < Steffanx> Enjoy your beer. 2018-06-22T20:07:03 < invzim> aandrew: where do you ned 5v, SE or LVDS side? 2018-06-22T20:07:31 < invzim> http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ds90lv019.pdf 2018-06-22T20:10:51 < invzim> doh, lvds... anyho part above you can feed it 3v3 or 5v0 2018-06-22T20:14:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T20:22:50 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-22T20:25:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T20:25:28 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T20:26:52 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T20:32:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T20:41:09 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T20:47:32 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T20:52:33 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-22T20:53:02 < Steffanx> How fancy, jlcpcb even shows the semi-live progress. Never seen that with cheapskate chinese. 2018-06-22T20:54:58 < Steffanx> 5x5cm 4 layer pcb incl. express dhl shipping for $18.83, what can go wrong. 2018-06-22T20:56:29 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@cca100-pool11.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2018-06-22T20:56:53 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@host86-133-204-69.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2018-06-22T20:57:13 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.5.135.76.7] by ChanServ 2018-06-22T20:57:39 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2018-06-22T21:11:51 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-22T21:17:59 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-22T21:27:52 < Lux> Steffanx: jlpcb tour: https://youtu.be/ljOoGyCso8s 2018-06-22T21:29:37 < Lux> looks pretty fancy for a chinese pcb fab imo 2018-06-22T21:30:25 < Lux> seems like they are investing heavily into aquiring new customers atm, thus the very low prices 2018-06-22T21:30:33 < srk> mm 2018-06-22T21:30:43 < srk> time time to draw some 2018-06-22T21:31:55 < Rickta59> http://i68.tinypic.com/2wp3wqv.png for all you arduino haters .. 2018-06-22T21:32:54 < Rickta59> small code size and debugging 2018-06-22T21:34:35 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T21:35:33 < Steffanx> Yes, Lux. I actually know them from easyeda. Easyeda was nice as a pcb service 2018-06-22T21:35:54 < Steffanx> they have been doing $2 pcbs for quite some time now 2018-06-22T21:45:04 < Laurenceb> supp trolls 2018-06-22T21:45:13 < Laurenceb> muh gpsd, muh gui 2018-06-22T21:45:28 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-22T21:49:07 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T21:52:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T22:04:44 < Streaker> Rickta59 tinypic.com popped up a bunch of advertisement windows and did not display your pic. 2018-06-22T22:05:07 < Rickta59> : ( 2018-06-22T22:10:39 < zyp> heh, I hooked up LA to a paperclip and touched one of the test points on the hi3518 board 2018-06-22T22:10:47 < zyp> found the debug uart output on first attempt :p 2018-06-22T22:15:06 < Steffanx> ): 2018-06-22T22:16:36 < Steffanx> Alread disassembled your copter zyp? 2018-06-22T22:17:37 < zyp> slow day at work today, so I did that at the office, just brought home a box of parts :p 2018-06-22T22:18:13 < Steffanx> Im so busy at work that i wouldnt ever have time for such thing. 2018-06-22T22:18:20 < Steffanx> and my boss wouldnt like me do that :P 2018-06-22T22:18:53 < Steffanx> and my colleagues look weird at me too. 2018-06-22T22:19:21 < PaulFertser> zyp: congrats! Have you also found the Rx? Probably it can let you in without any password and then you get /etc/passwd, brute the hash etc. 2018-06-22T22:19:57 < zyp> PaulFertser, I'm guessing rx is the one right next to it, just soldered wires to it so I can hook it up 2018-06-22T22:20:41 < PaulFertser> :) 2018-06-22T22:21:08 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/eCZis.jpg 2018-06-22T22:23:14 < zyp> yep 2018-06-22T22:23:48 < Steffanx> Seems like you did a better solder job than those chinese? 2018-06-22T22:23:50 < Steffanx> -? 2018-06-22T22:24:14 < Steffanx> or did you solder some wires to it to power it as well 2018-06-22T22:24:15 < zyp> hmm? 2018-06-22T22:24:16 < Steffanx> ? 2018-06-22T22:24:18 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-22T22:24:20 < Steffanx> oh 2018-06-22T22:24:30 < zyp> I'm running this board alone 2018-06-22T22:24:43 < zyp> the 4-pin cable connects to the stm32 board 2018-06-22T22:25:30 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/7VMYL 2018-06-22T22:26:06 < zyp> root:nrqCT9P0O4Qu2:0:0::/root:/bin/sh 2018-06-22T22:26:12 < zyp> :) 2018-06-22T22:27:35 < PaulFertser> Doesn't seem to be a google-known hash though, but shouldn't take long to get with hashcat anyway.. 2018-06-22T22:27:47 < zyp> it's not a hash, this is directly in /etc/passwd 2018-06-22T22:27:53 < zyp> there's no /etc/shadow 2018-06-22T22:28:47 < PaulFertser> insmod AR1021 Deriver 2018-06-22T22:29:17 < PaulFertser> I think /etc/passwd normally has hashed passwords. 2018-06-22T22:29:46 < zyp> no, /etc/passwd normally doesn't have passwords at all, they are in /etc/shadow 2018-06-22T22:29:55 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/L6peG <- here's hostapd.conf 2018-06-22T22:30:05 < zyp> looks pretty straight forward to change :p 2018-06-22T22:30:09 < PaulFertser> So rootfs is readonly squashfs 2018-06-22T22:30:49 < zyp> yes, and then it generates /tmp/hostapd.conf from somewhere 2018-06-22T22:30:52 < PaulFertser> I would try to find how "create_ap_config" works, probably it can be configured from "config". 2018-06-22T22:31:59 < PaulFertser> (net_dev_ctrl.c,722)create_ap_config: WiFi_CD447B 12345678 157 2018-06-22T22:32:03 < zyp> there's not a lot of processes running 2018-06-22T22:32:18 < PaulFertser> So channel number is actually a parameter of that function (?). 2018-06-22T22:32:29 < zyp> only hostapd, telnetd, dnsmasq and some ./sfserver 2018-06-22T22:32:38 < zyp> so I think all the custom stuff is in ./sfserver 2018-06-22T22:32:57 < PaulFertser> Is config mtd partition mounted? 2018-06-22T22:33:23 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/K6O9G 2018-06-22T22:33:49 < PaulFertser> So what's in /mnt ? 2018-06-22T22:33:59 < karlp> thanks steffanx :| need to rely on our old friends croatia now. 2018-06-22T22:34:21 < karlp> they appear to be in fine form however, but we've played them a lot, so... fingers crossed :) 2018-06-22T22:34:58 < zyp> PaulFertser, bingo 2018-06-22T22:35:00 < zyp> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/Cis1T 2018-06-22T22:35:13 < zyp> line 89 got it 2018-06-22T22:36:13 < Steffanx> oh that server is actually real 2018-06-22T22:36:51 < zyp> let's see, what's a reasonable wifi channel 2018-06-22T22:38:54 < zyp> channel [22] (140) is disabled for use in AP mode, flags: 0xf NO-IBSS PASSIVE-SCAN RADAR 2018-06-22T22:38:59 < zyp> fuck that :p 2018-06-22T22:41:19 < zyp> okay, switched it to 36, now my phone finds it 2018-06-22T22:41:49 < PaulFertser> Have you tried telnetting in yet? 2018-06-22T22:42:00 < zyp> no, just grabbed my laptop so I can try 2018-06-22T22:42:10 < zyp> my private laptop didn't find it either on the old channel 2018-06-22T22:42:10 < Steffanx> better ssh into 54.243.86.216 2018-06-22T22:44:10 < zyp> hmm, seems it doesn't work like a password 2018-06-22T22:46:10 < Simon--> work like a password? it's a des crypt 2018-06-22T22:46:30 < zyp> it is? looks too short to be a hash to me 2018-06-22T22:48:21 < zyp> ah, right 2018-06-22T22:48:46 < zyp> I've never encountered a linux system storing passwords like that before :p 2018-06-22T22:48:52 < Simon--> welcome to 1995 :) 2018-06-22T22:49:00 < zyp> :) 2018-06-22T22:49:07 < zyp> okay, any convenient tools to break it? 2018-06-22T22:49:17 < Simon--> john, hashcat, etc.. 2018-06-22T22:50:47 < Simon--> I threw it in my stupid hashcat script but it didn't spit anything out. hashcat has annoying settings though.. 2018-06-22T22:51:36 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T22:53:19 < Simon--> what's the product / mfg name? 2018-06-22T22:54:25 < zyp> control server is listening on 54188 2018-06-22T22:54:43 < zyp> and also udp 2001 2018-06-22T22:55:15 < zyp> but ok, now that it works, maybe I should assemble it and go flying 2018-06-22T22:56:40 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-22T22:57:01 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T22:58:28 < PaulFertser> Is it not too dark yet? 2018-06-22T22:58:58 < zyp> not really, might be by the time I get it assembled 2018-06-22T22:59:03 < zyp> but then I can fly tomorrow 2018-06-22T23:00:35 < PaulFertser> While at it, you can write a letter to the seller requiring all GPL sources and threatening. 2018-06-22T23:00:51 < Steffanx> I see the Hi3518 is the defacto camera board in china? I see this "security" camera runs on that one too. 2018-06-22T23:01:05 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-22T23:01:12 < Steffanx> this = some random camera i once bought 2018-06-22T23:08:12 < zyp> hey, this shit works 2018-06-22T23:09:36 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/uBMCp.png 2018-06-22T23:10:00 < zyp> still haven't assembled, just tried plugging in the camera as well 2018-06-22T23:10:44 < vampi-the-frog> nice 2018-06-22T23:10:55 < Steffanx> heh 2018-06-22T23:11:39 < zyp> removing the debug uart wires now so somebody better crack that hash :p 2018-06-22T23:12:43 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/9UsxoxY 2018-06-22T23:14:55 < Steffanx> deja vu bitmask. 2018-06-22T23:14:58 < Steffanx> can i draw yet? 2018-06-22T23:15:16 < englishman> welcome back simon 2018-06-22T23:15:20 < bitmask> haha no, everyone else can, but not you 2018-06-22T23:15:47 < Simon--> hello :) I was always here, just going for lurking record 2018-06-22T23:17:07 < Thorn> https://www.instagram.com/p/BkKrvgYgpXP/ 2018-06-22T23:17:53 < PaulFertser> Simon--: it's a JXD-528 quad 2018-06-22T23:21:35 < Simon--> zyp: cracked: sfadmin 2018-06-22T23:21:46 < kakimir> Thorn: they should clearly make change to rotor design 2018-06-22T23:21:55 < kakimir> to get rid of that vortex 2018-06-22T23:23:05 < zyp> Simon--, awesome, thanks 2018-06-22T23:28:25 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T23:32:21 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Log closed Fri Jun 22 23:37:56 2018 --- Log opened Fri Jun 22 23:38:04 2018 2018-06-22T23:38:04 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T23:38:04 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 142 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 141 normal] 2018-06-22T23:39:17 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 79 secs 2018-06-22T23:44:30 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pyntlitebcivpsik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-22T23:46:27 < stvn> chop chop --- Day changed Sat Jun 23 2018 2018-06-23T00:04:29 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-23T00:10:50 < Steffanx> Hello welcome 2018-06-23T00:12:15 < stvn> pumpbadge 2018-06-23T00:12:22 < stvn> hi stffn 2018-06-23T00:13:51 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T00:14:10 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T00:14:36 < kakimir> pumpable 2018-06-23T00:15:10 < Steffanx> What can i do for you stvn? 2018-06-23T00:15:39 < stvn> bits 2018-06-23T00:15:39 < kakimir> give +O 2018-06-23T00:15:58 < stvn> don't need it 2018-06-23T00:16:03 < stvn> leeloo is long gone 2018-06-23T00:16:21 < Steffanx> Youre worse than lee 2018-06-23T00:16:23 < Steffanx> Loo 2018-06-23T00:16:27 < Steffanx> Sometimes 2018-06-23T00:16:37 < stvn> try always 2018-06-23T00:16:52 < kakimir> but never cross the line 2018-06-23T00:17:10 < stvn> i'm not going m2f 2018-06-23T00:19:41 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-23T00:21:41 < stvn> tranny32 2018-06-23T00:23:48 < stvn> m888 2018-06-23T00:30:21 < zyp> Simon--, can confirm it works 2018-06-23T00:30:28 < zyp> now I have root login over telnet :) 2018-06-23T00:34:57 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-23T00:35:12 < kakimir> stvn: you are just jelly for his transformation 2018-06-23T00:38:48 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T00:40:47 < Thorn> so the IDLE flag works differently in F0 and F4 uarts 2018-06-23T00:41:48 < Thorn> in F0, it gets set whenever you enable the receiver which is very annoying 2018-06-23T00:42:18 < stvn> 999 2018-06-23T00:42:28 < stvn> so jelly 2018-06-23T00:50:57 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T00:52:10 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T00:56:57 < zyp> I grabbed the sfserver elf and loaded it up in IDA 2018-06-23T00:57:22 < zyp> file claims it's stripped, but IDA found symbol names and everything 2018-06-23T01:00:28 < zyp> main() is pretty straight forward, it does some init work, spawns off a bunch of subsystem threads, then loops until it's being told it's shutting down, then deinits stuff again 2018-06-23T01:29:48 < zyp> remserial_thread seems to just set up a proxy between a serial port and a pair of udp sockets 2018-06-23T01:32:12 < zyp> seems like the linux system doesn't talk to the stm32 at all, just acts as a proxy to it 2018-06-23T01:33:27 < zyp> that explains why I saw zero activity on that uart earlier 2018-06-23T01:34:15 < zyp> anyway, bedtime 2018-06-23T01:34:20 < zyp> tomorrow I'll try flying this thing 2018-06-23T01:58:33 < srk> what is it? 2018-06-23T02:20:37 < kakimir> is there dummy packages for mcu footprints? 2018-06-23T02:20:41 < kakimir> with breakout 2018-06-23T02:20:53 < kakimir> I mean if board gives you shits 2018-06-23T02:21:05 < kakimir> and you want to replace the main shitte 2018-06-23T02:21:18 < kakimir> with something more civiliced 2018-06-23T02:21:27 < kakimir> in example 2018-06-23T02:27:45 < Streaker> like a breakout board? 2018-06-23T02:28:05 < kakimir> that you solder to a footprint 2018-06-23T02:28:08 < kakimir> like mcu 2018-06-23T02:28:11 < kakimir> but without mcu 2018-06-23T02:28:20 < kakimir> but with breakout points 2018-06-23T02:28:31 < kakimir> or a footprint for another mcu 2018-06-23T02:30:33 < Streaker> wouldnt you still have to solder wires to that board? 2018-06-23T02:30:51 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-23T02:31:06 < kakimir> but those may be spaced better 2018-06-23T02:31:09 < kakimir> or a connector 2018-06-23T02:31:13 < kakimir> or anything 2018-06-23T02:48:04 < day> how do you do unit testing in your c projects? do you just build a little program that tests the different function for a few potentially dangerous values? 2018-06-23T02:49:33 < day> along the lines of "http://dpaste.com/3FERAX7" 2018-06-23T02:57:33 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T03:04:05 < kakimir> in main() 2018-06-23T03:05:35 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-23T03:06:48 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T03:06:55 < day> kakimir: i don't think i follow 2018-06-23T03:10:01 < kakimir> "lets apply it to this main program.. yeah.. let's try few things.. done" 2018-06-23T03:14:13 < kakimir> once did module in visual studio, full testing and all 2018-06-23T03:14:29 < kakimir> then just copy the codes to project 2018-06-23T03:24:58 < Laurenceb__> sup 2018-06-23T03:28:34 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118373.png 2018-06-23T03:29:39 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-23T03:32:49 < Laurenceb__> muh gui 2018-06-23T03:33:30 < Laurenceb__> gpsd is cancer 2018-06-23T03:33:37 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.129.46] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-23T03:34:34 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T03:38:23 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118375.jpg 2018-06-23T03:48:23 < Laurenceb__> Your posts are repetitive drivel, it's nauseating to come here after a week of work and see you here posting the same type of shit over and over again tbh, do you not have a job? 2018-06-23T03:54:51 < Laurenceb__> this shitpost seems apt 2018-06-23T03:55:46 < aandrew> invzim: 5V on the SE side, LVDS specfies voltage swing and offset 2018-06-23T03:55:54 < aandrew> and yes that i the part I was looking at 2018-06-23T03:56:14 < aandrew> Steffanx: wow, $20 4 layer including shipping? 2018-06-23T03:57:39 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-23T04:00:49 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T04:14:27 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081C14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T04:18:21 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A3278C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-23T04:25:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T04:29:02 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-23T04:33:03 -!- kuldeep [~kuldeep@unaffiliated/kuldeepdhaka] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T04:44:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T05:09:13 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pyntlitebcivpsik] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-23T05:46:05 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-23T05:46:07 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T06:29:02 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-23T06:31:20 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T06:38:39 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lezutvdilmyyyaav] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T06:41:48 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-23T06:43:46 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T06:50:54 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T07:01:54 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T07:08:27 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T07:09:50 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-23T07:10:54 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T07:15:57 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-23T07:18:31 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T07:22:51 -!- day__ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T07:23:12 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-23T07:24:19 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T07:26:47 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-23T07:26:48 -!- day__ is now known as day 2018-06-23T07:30:26 < Cracki> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgIq0FPWsAA32Dn.jpg:orig 2018-06-23T07:31:50 < Cracki> <3 culture https://twitter.com/JaredoTexas/status/1010358783250518016 2018-06-23T07:42:47 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-23T08:02:27 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T08:31:50 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-23T08:32:06 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T08:48:21 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-23T09:16:43 < Steffanx> Yes aandre 2018-06-23T09:16:59 < Steffanx> aandrew 2018-06-23T09:44:23 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a02:aa1:1603:8026:481f:bbc:5611:9ad1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T10:00:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-23T10:07:53 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T10:23:03 < Thorn> my devices are powered from the rs-485 bus when they are off :/ 2018-06-23T10:23:41 < Thorn> is it only chinese max485 clones or do all rs-485 drivers behave like that? 2018-06-23T10:24:31 < Thorn> it's not enough for them to actually run but the power led is on and the display displays random lines 2018-06-23T10:27:47 < stvn> oh fernando! 2018-06-23T10:36:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T10:41:05 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Jun 23 10:50:13 2018 --- Log opened Sat Jun 23 10:56:05 2018 2018-06-23T10:56:05 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T10:56:05 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 139 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 138 normal] 2018-06-23T10:57:17 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 78 secs 2018-06-23T11:04:20 -!- sterna [~Adium@2a02:aa1:1603:8026:481f:bbc:5611:9ad1] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-23T11:07:02 < stvn> hmmm 2018-06-23T11:23:25 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T11:30:00 < zyp> kakimir, it's common to make stuff like that out of FFC 2018-06-23T11:33:03 < zyp> kakimir, e.g. https://www.ironwoodelectronics.com/products/adapters/memory_probing_adapters.cfm 2018-06-23T11:42:40 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T11:56:51 < Thorn> Steffanx be careful, this guy is up to something https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/115597/how-fast-can-i-flood-the-netherlands-entirely-and-permanently 2018-06-23T11:57:15 < zyp> haha 2018-06-23T11:59:29 < Steffanx> Lol Thorn :D 2018-06-23T12:07:46 < Steffanx> jadew: last week i figured i still have issues after fast retractions. Guess i didnt fully solve it. 2018-06-23T12:07:56 < Steffanx> Many fast* 2018-06-23T12:11:39 < stvn> Does anyone know where tct is? 2018-06-23T12:11:42 < stvn> I'm quite worried 2018-06-23T12:11:52 < Steffanx> Im not. Hes in busyland 2018-06-23T12:12:27 < stvn> is that where he can get his hookers and drugs? 2018-06-23T12:13:28 < BrainDamage> you pay them 2018-06-23T12:13:59 < stvn> the money 2018-06-23T12:14:04 < stvn> i'd assume 2018-06-23T12:14:21 < stvn> I've had a lot more cocaine thrown at me than i 2018-06-23T12:14:26 < stvn> i've actually paid for 2018-06-23T12:17:33 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z89Uv1Gl6Z0 2018-06-23T12:19:27 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T12:21:16 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T12:23:16 < stvn> Steffanx: i haven't seen dr blaxter either. 2018-06-23T12:23:40 < Steffanx> like i care? 2018-06-23T12:23:44 < stvn> i think so 2018-06-23T12:44:09 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:cc03:9b6:5fe4:3871] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T13:02:09 < invzim> playing around with gcc, optimize for size is by far the fastest for some bit tweaking 2018-06-23T13:02:57 < invzim> which is fine by me - you guys seen the same / got insights? 2018-06-23T13:12:19 < dongs> i use keil 2018-06-23T13:12:26 < dongs> solves problem wiht gcc being shit 2018-06-23T13:13:19 < Steffanx> dongs-bot woke up :) 2018-06-23T13:14:18 < invzim> FU man, gcc is the best awesomeness evar! 2018-06-23T13:18:29 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsf92.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T13:23:10 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-23T13:23:39 < jpa-> invzim: -Os is typically a reasonable tradeoff, yeah, though -O3 is often faster for me 2018-06-23T13:28:02 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T13:33:58 < PaulFertser> dongs: have you noticed zyp's tweets regarding easy way of changing the wifi channel on that quad? 2018-06-23T13:39:09 < Steffanx> nah that would mean he has to get into lunix. you know.. LUNIX. 2018-06-23T13:41:52 < scummos> invzim: well, optimizing code for size often has other benefits performance than just the size, e.g. it reduces the need to fetch new instructinos 2018-06-23T13:41:55 < scummos> *instructions 2018-06-23T13:42:11 < stvn> who likes memes!?! 2018-06-23T13:42:22 < zyp> dongs, yeah, I changed the channel on mine yesterday 2018-06-23T13:42:59 < zyp> scummos, not necessarily 2018-06-23T13:43:12 < scummos> zyp: not necessarily but potentially 2018-06-23T13:43:59 < zyp> scummos, optimizing for size reduces redundant code paths, optimizing for speed reduces the length of each code path but not necessarily the number of them 2018-06-23T13:44:35 < zyp> having two optimized code paths is generally faster than having one generic one, but larger 2018-06-23T13:45:24 < zyp> i.e. more code doesn't mean more time spent fetching instructions, you'll just not fetch them all as often 2018-06-23T13:45:48 < jpa-> also less relevant on STM32 than on systems with deeper cache hierarchies 2018-06-23T13:46:09 < jpa-> with perhaps the exception of STM32F7 running firmware off QSPI flash 2018-06-23T13:47:57 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T14:07:01 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T14:08:01 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T14:14:03 < zyp> hmm 2018-06-23T14:14:21 < zyp> this sfserver thing has support for multiple wifi modules and also some 3G stuff 2018-06-23T14:28:30 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-23T14:32:29 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:cc03:9b6:5fe4:3871] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-23T14:34:07 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:fd5d:4454:e8b2:2347] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T14:40:37 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:fd5d:4454:e8b2:2347] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-23T14:41:57 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:1c8e:fadc:ed7d:4cd8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T14:48:13 < stvn> waifu module 2018-06-23T14:57:22 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-23T15:10:22 < dongs> zyp how 2018-06-23T15:14:23 < PaulFertser> dongs: connect with laptop or anything, telnet to its ip, password is sfadmin. 2018-06-23T15:14:33 < PaulFertser> dongs: then edit system settings file in /mnt/mtd/ 2018-06-23T15:15:12 < dongs> niiice 2018-06-23T15:20:11 < dongs> is it lunix? 2018-06-23T15:20:21 < Steffanx> lol what else? 2018-06-23T15:21:03 < PaulFertser> dongs: https://paste.jvnv.net/view/7VMYL 2018-06-23T15:21:19 < dongs> oh, zyp hooked up serial to it eh 2018-06-23T15:21:41 < PaulFertser> That's the way he got in and got passwd hash, yes. 2018-06-23T15:23:12 < stvn> hash 2018-06-23T15:23:31 < stvn> was it just some md5 2018-06-23T15:23:36 < Steffanx> stvns drugs trigger triggered? 2018-06-23T15:23:43 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: no, des crypt 2018-06-23T15:23:46 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: ^^ 2018-06-23T15:23:53 < PaulFertser> Eh, sorry, I meant steeeveen 2018-06-23T15:23:57 < dongs> oh it had a /etc/shadow or someshit for the passwd? 2018-06-23T15:24:01 < dongs> lol @ lunix securitty 2018-06-23T15:24:05 < PaulFertser> No, just /etc/passwd 2018-06-23T15:24:18 < stvn> heh 2018-06-23T15:24:27 < dongs> lunix security ftw 2018-06-23T15:24:37 < dongs> would never happen with windows 2018-06-23T15:24:49 < Steffanx> lolno? 2018-06-23T15:24:52 < vampi-the-frog> windows is a deeply cynical farce 2018-06-23T15:24:53 < PaulFertser> You basically extract password hashes the same way from windows when you have physical access, so... 2018-06-23T15:25:02 < stvn> ^ 2018-06-23T15:25:13 < stvn> makes all the difference 2018-06-23T15:25:20 < dongs> but windows hashes aren't using 30 years old garbagetech 2018-06-23T15:25:25 < dongs> cracked in 5 minutes 2018-06-23T15:26:15 < sync> it is still ntlm 2018-06-23T15:26:23 < stvn> JOHNNY Depp — the one-time ‘highest-paid actor in Hollywood’ is reportedly now facing financial ruin. So where the hell did all that money go? 2018-06-23T15:26:37 < Steffanx> Drugs. 2018-06-23T15:26:38 < PaulFertser> I would bet the professional HiSilicon proprietary SDK was used to generate that rootfs. If they would use OpenWrt the default hashing method would be different. 2018-06-23T15:26:44 < vampi-the-frog> who cares even if you crack the password, you just gain access to a garbage OS 2018-06-23T15:26:45 < stvn> drugs \o/ 2018-06-23T15:27:19 < vampi-the-frog> that's the main feature of windows security: nobody wants to use it 2018-06-23T15:27:26 < Steffanx> You shouldnt talk like that about templeOS, vampi-the-frog 2018-06-23T15:27:48 < vampi-the-frog> garbageOS 2018-06-23T15:27:54 < stvn> terry is the smartest programmer that's ever lived 2018-06-23T15:28:07 < stvn> lol 2018-06-23T15:28:19 < vampi-the-frog> who's terry 2018-06-23T15:28:26 < stvn> that templeOS lunatic 2018-06-23T15:30:04 < dongs> < vampi-the-frog> who cares even if you crack the password, you just gain access to a garbage OS 2018-06-23T15:30:08 < dongs> haha literally this 2018-06-23T15:30:11 < dongs> (when talking about luinix) 2018-06-23T15:30:42 < vampi-the-frog> linux is fine, it's Ubuntu who is taking the piss IMO 2018-06-23T15:30:57 < vampi-the-frog> Ubuntu is a perverted version of Debian 2018-06-23T15:31:04 < vampi-the-frog> Debian is fine though 2018-06-23T15:31:14 < dongs> the problem with lunix is all teh fucking choice 2018-06-23T15:31:35 < stvn> i installed ubuntu 2018-06-23T15:32:08 < vampi-the-frog> linux distros are like women 2018-06-23T15:32:11 < stvn> works a lot better since i'm either using intel or nvidia graphics 2018-06-23T15:32:12 < vampi-the-frog> most of them aren't worth marrying 2018-06-23T15:32:23 < dongs> "works" 2018-06-23T15:32:27 < dongs> lunix supports graphics? 2018-06-23T15:32:36 < stvn> a lot better than it used to imo 2018-06-23T15:32:59 < Steffanx> Damn this talk. Trolls trolling trolls with the same old shit. 2018-06-23T15:33:51 < stvn> i thought lunix was your favourite steffan? 2018-06-23T15:34:10 < Steffanx> That's irrelevant 2018-06-23T15:35:44 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-23T15:36:06 < dongs> heh neat, camera is mipi 2018-06-23T15:37:42 < stvn> It was founded in 2003 by ARM, Intel, Nokia, Samsung, STMicroelectronics and Texas Instruments. - said wiki 2018-06-23T15:37:53 < stvn> as i had no idea wtf MIPI i googled 2018-06-23T15:41:21 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T15:52:50 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2018-06-23T16:00:15 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T16:01:59 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T16:33:41 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T16:54:05 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-23T17:15:55 < dongs> zyp: what did you pick for a eu channel 2018-06-23T17:16:09 < dongs> thats visible 2018-06-23T17:20:29 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T17:26:58 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T17:30:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-23T17:32:37 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T17:37:38 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T17:45:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T17:50:41 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-23T18:02:06 -!- arhs [~aris@unaffiliated/rsha] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T18:02:55 < Steffanx> i believe he said 36 yesterday dongs 2018-06-23T18:03:24 < Steffanx> Yes, thats what my logs says. 2018-06-23T18:05:24 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-23T18:06:06 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-23T18:07:06 < dongs> oh 2018-06-23T18:07:10 < zyp> just tried flying it, works surprisingly well 2018-06-23T18:07:26 < dongs> cool 2018-06-23T18:07:52 < zyp> if you didn't see: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/eCZis.jpg 2018-06-23T18:08:20 < dongs> wow you didnt fuck around 2018-06-23T18:09:02 < zyp> I figured those were uart test points, so I hooked LA to a paperclip and tried one of those, found tx on first try 2018-06-23T18:09:11 < zyp> and rx was right next to it 2018-06-23T18:09:45 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T18:10:25 < dongs> wait what 2018-06-23T18:10:27 < dongs> root/sfserver? 2018-06-23T18:10:28 < dongs> that doesnt wrok 2018-06-23T18:10:31 < zyp> sfadmin 2018-06-23T18:10:41 < zyp> sfserver is the name of the process that does everything 2018-06-23T18:11:02 < zyp> huge 1.9MB elf 2018-06-23T18:11:10 < dongs> aa 2018-06-23T18:11:27 < zyp> got it loaded up in IDA, looked around in it yesterday 2018-06-23T18:12:02 < zyp> it seems like the part that talkes to the stm32 board is just a simple proxy between the serial port and a pair of udp sockets 2018-06-23T18:12:22 < zyp> so the lunix doesn't do anything related to the flying at all 2018-06-23T18:12:32 < dongs> yes 2018-06-23T18:12:35 < dongs> as expected 2018-06-23T18:12:38 < zyp> and then there's some other ports for handling video and stuff 2018-06-23T18:13:22 < dongs> so i just cahnge 157 to 36 and save and done? 2018-06-23T18:13:30 < zyp> there's also some update functionality, you just drop some files on an sd card with specific names and it'll overwrite the lunix flash with those 2018-06-23T18:13:31 < dongs> in system.cfg 2018-06-23T18:13:35 < zyp> yeah, that's what I did 2018-06-23T18:13:46 < zyp> next boot it'll generate a new hostapd.conf with that 2018-06-23T18:13:50 < Laurenceb__> have no fear, matlab man is here 2018-06-23T18:13:51 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118528.jpg 2018-06-23T18:14:03 < dongs> ohh and you can make it a or g 2018-06-23T18:14:03 < dongs> neat 2018-06-23T18:14:05 < dongs> heh 2018-06-23T18:14:31 < zyp> I'm tempted to make it a client instead of ap 2018-06-23T18:18:27 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118529.jpg 2018-06-23T18:18:44 < Laurenceb__> tfw u watch the football 2018-06-23T18:21:34 < dongs> zyp my eu pal picked ch140 2018-06-23T18:21:36 < dongs> and nothing can see it now 2018-06-23T18:21:37 < dongs> lols 2018-06-23T18:21:44 < dongs> (before asking abvout 36) 2018-06-23T18:25:26 < zyp> that was my first attempt also 2018-06-23T18:25:28 < zyp> 21:36:50 < zyp> let's see, what's a reasonable wifi channel 2018-06-23T18:25:28 < zyp> 21:38:54 < zyp> channel [22] (140) is disabled for use in AP mode, flags: 0xf NO-IBSS PASSIVE-SCAN RADAR 2018-06-23T18:25:31 < zyp> 21:38:59 < zyp> fuck that :p 2018-06-23T18:25:34 < zyp> 21:41:19 < zyp> okay, switched it to 36, now my phone finds it 2018-06-23T18:27:40 < dongs> wow video latency on samsung is a lot better 2018-06-23T18:27:41 < dongs> tahn chinkphone 2018-06-23T18:27:46 < dongs> its actually noit too bad 2018-06-23T18:28:31 < zyp> dongs, by the way, how's that invoice coming? 2018-06-23T18:37:40 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lezutvdilmyyyaav] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-23T18:39:47 < Laurenceb__> Julien Assange is an idiot 2018-06-23T18:39:54 < Laurenceb__> when this exists http://www.cameronballoons.co.uk/products/leisure-sport/hopper 2018-06-23T18:40:10 < Laurenceb__> and he has access to the roof 2018-06-23T18:48:16 -!- arhs [~aris@unaffiliated/rsha] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-23T18:50:56 < emeb_mac> not just an idiot for that reason 2018-06-23T18:51:38 < Laurenceb__> maybe I should offer to help him escape in return for bitcoinz 2018-06-23T18:52:09 < Laurenceb__> http://www.ultramagic.co.uk/static/images/products/solo_.jpg 2018-06-23T18:56:45 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T18:57:13 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-23T18:57:15 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2018-06-23T18:58:16 < Laurenceb__> holy shit 2018-06-23T18:58:17 < Laurenceb__> https://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/flat-4/3-hans-crescent/london/sw1x-0ln/23105669 2018-06-23T18:58:51 < Laurenceb__> become an Assange flatmate 2018-06-23T19:00:06 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T19:03:54 < Cracki> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgUZuzEV4AAZHYN.jpg:orig 2018-06-23T19:06:06 < Cracki> hate to let the air out of your argument, but if he took a hot air balloon, that could get him outside of embassy "soil". also, those things can made to lose air... 2018-06-23T19:09:37 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T19:11:27 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T19:11:30 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2018-06-23T19:12:01 < Laurenceb__> Cracki: those things fly for >2 hours, easily good enough to get to international waters 2018-06-23T19:13:05 < Cracki> what country doesn't have the means to force a balloon to ground within that time? 2018-06-23T19:13:22 < Cracki> it'd be so easy to shoot him down 2018-06-23T19:13:29 < Laurenceb__> nope 2018-06-23T19:13:34 < Laurenceb__> not a hot air balloon 2018-06-23T19:14:08 < Laurenceb__> in fact he could probably just go the france with it as the european arrest warrent got cancelled 2018-06-23T19:22:42 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-23T19:23:15 < Cracki> nice 2018-06-23T19:45:45 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-23T19:50:19 < jadew> Steffanx, yeah, I didn't fix it either 2018-06-23T19:51:05 < jadew> I discovered my extruder fan (the one blowing on the heatsink) was mounted the other way around and that improved other areas, but not the repeated retraction clogging 2018-06-23T19:51:24 < jadew> this is something that the slicer could probably fix 2018-06-23T19:52:11 < jadew> brb, I have to reboot 2018-06-23T19:52:58 < jadew> stuck delete operation... 2018-06-23T19:53:33 < jadew> almost 30 days of uptime - I can let it slide 2018-06-23T19:54:21 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T19:55:05 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Quit: exit] 2018-06-23T19:58:57 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T19:59:15 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T20:05:51 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsf92.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T20:06:22 -!- mra90 [~Martin@bsy188.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T20:14:17 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-23T20:20:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-23T20:21:27 < mawk> I need to relocate by bootloader in SRAM before writing to flash, right ? 2018-06-23T20:21:38 < mawk> or relocate it to the second flash bank but it'd be strange 2018-06-23T20:24:52 < Cracki> depends. I would hope you can erase and write flash pages while executing from flash 2018-06-23T20:25:01 < mawk> really ? 2018-06-23T20:25:06 < mawk> nice then 2018-06-23T20:25:07 < Cracki> atmel avrs can do it 2018-06-23T20:25:16 < mawk> yeah, with a special bootloader zone 2018-06-23T20:25:17 < Cracki> I would be surprised if stm32 couldn't 2018-06-23T20:25:29 < Cracki> that special zone is just "start of flash" 2018-06-23T20:25:33 < mawk> yes 2018-06-23T20:25:47 < Cracki> it's special in that you have to fuse a certain size for it 2018-06-23T20:25:50 < mawk> well the manual says that you can read from flash while write to flash, but only in different zones 2018-06-23T20:25:58 -!- mawk [sabu@znc.serveur.io] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2018-06-23T20:25:59 < Cracki> that's prolly to *protect* it from erasure while executing 2018-06-23T20:26:04 -!- mawk [sabu@znc.serveur.io] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T20:26:07 < Cracki> that's prolly to *protect* it from erasure while executing 2018-06-23T20:26:08 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T20:26:13 < mawk> write to the first bank while read from the second bank 2018-06-23T20:26:21 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-23T20:26:22 < Cracki> how large are banks? 2018-06-23T20:26:26 < mawk> 256 KiB 2018-06-23T20:26:33 < Cracki> wew 2018-06-23T20:27:05 < mawk> but maybe there's a better granularity than that if you're willing to pause reading or something 2018-06-23T20:27:34 < Cracki> are you talking about "mass erase"? 2018-06-23T20:27:39 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-23T20:27:49 < Cracki> flash should be erasable by page 2018-06-23T20:28:00 < mawk> no, just writing 2018-06-23T20:28:09 < mawk> yeah I saw that 2018-06-23T20:28:11 < Cracki> writing should have even fewer limitations 2018-06-23T20:28:51 < mawk> I'll just try to write to the bank I'm executing from, see if it works 2018-06-23T20:30:09 < Cracki> you might wanna check out existing bootloaders, see how they deal with this 2018-06-23T20:30:46 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-23T20:30:48 < Cracki> https://github.com/akospasztor/stm32-bootloader 2018-06-23T20:30:53 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T20:31:02 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-23T20:31:17 < mawk> apparently in the HAL library there are a set of functions that are meant to be executed from SRAM 2018-06-23T20:31:22 < Cracki> "application space" 2018-06-23T20:31:30 < mawk> among them HAL_FLASHEx_HalfPageProgram 2018-06-23T20:31:56 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-23T20:32:31 < mawk> that bootloader is heavy indeed 2018-06-23T20:33:03 < mawk> weighing 32 KiB 2018-06-23T20:33:26 < mawk> I was planning to take 16 KiB and I thought it was too much 2018-06-23T20:34:34 < Cracki> you can do plenty in 16K 2018-06-23T20:34:45 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-23T20:34:46 < Cracki> depends on what all you have to 2018-06-23T20:34:51 < mawk> what takes up most space is the USB bits 2018-06-23T20:34:59 < mawk> for dfu 2018-06-23T20:35:07 < mawk> but it's optional in my assignment 2018-06-23T20:35:18 < Cracki> perhaps it might be possible to steal code from the ROM bootloader 2018-06-23T20:35:27 < Cracki> call into it 2018-06-23T20:35:33 < mawk> the one builtin by ST you mean ? 2018-06-23T20:35:35 < Cracki> yes 2018-06-23T20:35:36 < mawk> yeah I thought about that 2018-06-23T20:35:40 < mawk> but I guess it'd be cheating 2018-06-23T20:35:52 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T20:35:58 < Cracki> some other brand of cortex m has shit in rom for most functions, and people hate it, but... 2018-06-23T20:36:08 < Cracki> ah you're being graded for this :P 2018-06-23T20:36:20 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-23T20:36:31 < mawk> well the USB part is bonus, I added that because it's fun 2018-06-23T20:36:39 < mawk> but I'm supposed to do UART, SPI, I2C 2018-06-23T20:37:17 < mawk> it's supposed to be totally from scratch but everyone ended up using HAL 2018-06-23T20:38:58 < Cracki> if they want to teach you, they need to teach you HAL, not to poke *all* registers manually 2018-06-23T20:39:50 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-23T20:40:04 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T20:41:03 < mawk> I started by using the CMSIS headers for all the defines, but eventually used cubeMX and HAL for the whole thing to be less painful 2018-06-23T20:54:04 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@50-46-131-102.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T21:01:16 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-23T21:01:22 -!- jv [jv@pilsedu.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T21:04:14 < Cracki> heeeh https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgU2PG9U0AA0Oty.jpg:orig 2018-06-23T21:05:52 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T21:06:47 -!- kc2uez 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2018-06-23T22:58:00 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T23:22:57 < bitmask> hello 2018-06-23T23:25:34 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-23T23:26:52 < Steffanx> Welcome 2018-06-23T23:27:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@ua-85-228-109-37.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T23:30:45 < invzim> not readign the whole backlog - but I just wrote a bootloader 2018-06-23T23:31:18 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-11-172-226.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-23T23:31:26 < invzim> it occupies the first 3 sectors (up to 48k), remainding sectors for user application - no magic 2018-06-23T23:33:48 < invzim> not executing anything from ram 2018-06-23T23:47:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-11-172-226.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Day changed Sun Jun 24 2018 2018-06-24T00:12:47 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 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missed dr blaxter 2018-06-24T01:32:11 < englishman> zyp: ferries are free for electric cars 2018-06-24T01:32:20 < englishman> another $8.5 per trip saved 2018-06-24T01:34:05 -!- nn77 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T01:47:54 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-24T01:48:54 < Cracki> who pays for the ferry then? 2018-06-24T01:51:22 -!- machinehum [~machinehu@S01061cabc0ab4603.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T01:52:19 < stvn> tree fiddy 2018-06-24T01:53:04 < englishman> dinosaur burners 2018-06-24T01:53:43 < stvn> lel 2018-06-24T02:02:23 < mawk> Cracki: about the bootloader programming flash while being in flash, HAL defines a set of functions that your toolchain (or yourself, if using GCC for instance) will place in SRAM at startup 2018-06-24T02:02:31 < mawk> I found that 2018-06-24T02:03:01 < mawk> so in my linker script I set the HAL-generated .RamFunc function in SRAM, then in the startup code I copy it in SRAM 2018-06-24T02:03:05 < mawk> and hopefully it will work 2018-06-24T02:07:03 < invzim> mawk: why do it from ram? 2018-06-24T02:07:32 < mawk> to write in the flash 2018-06-24T02:07:52 < invzim> you can execute from flash and write to flash, not just same sector 2018-06-24T02:09:01 < invzim> or maybe I'm missing what you're trying to do 2018-06-24T02:09:24 < mawk> for word by word programming maybe 2018-06-24T02:09:35 < mawk> I'm trying to receive a program from UART then copy it to flash 2018-06-24T02:10:11 < invzim> but it's a bootloader kind of thing? 2018-06-24T02:10:14 < mawk> yes 2018-06-24T02:10:25 < mawk> and to do it page-by-page I need to be executing from ram 2018-06-24T02:10:29 < mawk> according to the hal doc 2018-06-24T02:10:31 < invzim> why not have the bootloader occupy the first sectors of flash? 2018-06-24T02:10:42 < invzim> which stm part# are you using? 2018-06-24T02:11:11 < mawk> I have a nucleo-l152re 2018-06-24T02:11:16 < mawk> which is stm32l152ret6 2018-06-24T02:11:26 < mawk> 512 KiB of flash, two banks of 256 KiB 2018-06-24T02:11:45 < invzim> big one :) 2018-06-24T02:11:45 < mawk> I can program one bank while executing from the other, or I can program sectors while being in another sector but only word by word apparently 2018-06-24T02:11:54 < mawk> if I want to do it with bigger chunks I need to be in ram 2018-06-24T02:11:59 < mawk> if I understood everything correctly 2018-06-24T02:12:13 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqDRA60AgNs 2018-06-24T02:13:06 < invzim> mawk: I don't think so 2018-06-24T02:13:10 < invzim> https://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/technical/document/reference_manual/cc/f9/93/b2/f0/82/42/57/CD00240193.pdf/files/CD00240193.pdf/jcr:content/translations/en.CD00240193.pdf 2018-06-24T02:13:46 < invzim> check out section 3, I haven't worked with any pieces what that kind of advanced flahs - but I think the logic is the same as the others 2018-06-24T02:13:59 < mawk> see page 65 invzim 2018-06-24T02:14:08 < mawk> if doing it word by word indeed you can be executing from flash 2018-06-24T02:14:18 < mawk> but half-page by half-page you need to be in SRAM 2018-06-24T02:14:35 < mawk> and if doing it word by word while executing from flash the CPU is stalled for the time of operation 2018-06-24T02:14:59 < mawk> so since I have to write a whole program I'm concerned about the speed I would get if I stayed in flash for the programming operation 2018-06-24T02:15:28 < mawk> word by word: "This function can be executed from both Banks, Ram or external memory. If it is from the same bank the program is stalled for one Tprog." 2018-06-24T02:15:45 < mawk> for half-page: "Half Page Write is possible only from SRAM, from external memory or from bank 1 to bank 2 and vice versa." 2018-06-24T02:16:15 < invzim> maybe it's something complicated, but I find it odd if it is 2018-06-24T02:16:28 < invzim> I use HAL_FLASH_Program with FLASH_TYPEPROGRAM_BYTE 2018-06-24T02:16:32 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-24T02:16:41 < mawk> that's word by word 2018-06-24T02:16:43 < mawk> isn't it slow ? 2018-06-24T02:16:48 < invzim> byte by byte actualy 2018-06-24T02:16:52 < mawk> if you have to program like a dozen kbytes 2018-06-24T02:16:55 < mawk> ah, yeah 2018-06-24T02:16:59 < mawk> indeed 2018-06-24T02:17:05 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-24T02:17:07 < invzim> I flash 208kb in a couple of seconds 2018-06-24T02:17:25 < invzim> got aes256 decrypting too, so not sure what's actually eating cycles 2018-06-24T02:17:41 < invzim> but have a progress bar, and it doesn't feel slow by any means compared to other stuff I've seen 2018-06-24T02:17:47 < mawk> I see 2018-06-24T02:18:13 < invzim> anyho - what I do is just keep the bootloader in the first sectors, if activated do the flash thing, if not - jump to main program 2018-06-24T02:18:57 < invzim> which a bootloader, I think reliability is concern #1 - not speed 2018-06-24T02:19:01 < invzim> with 2018-06-24T02:19:43 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-24T02:42:07 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T02:43:25 < stvn> lb 2018-06-24T02:43:35 < stvn> we've been awaiting your return 2018-06-24T02:45:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-24T02:48:24 < Laurenceb__> soyface 2018-06-24T02:50:44 < Laurenceb__> I was b& due to racism 2018-06-24T02:50:58 < Laurenceb__> where are my reparations? 2018-06-24T02:51:55 < stvn> due to heritage 2018-06-24T02:53:51 < stvn> wtf were you banned from Laurenceb__ 2018-06-24T03:02:42 < kakimir> does laurenceb even have heritage 2018-06-24T03:07:20 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-24T03:09:23 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T03:09:31 < Cracki> white people culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OSicZ3G9wU 2018-06-24T03:11:05 < kakimir> also japanise too 2018-06-24T03:12:39 < Cracki> japs make electronics 2018-06-24T03:13:23 < Cracki> oh shit the japs are milling the atom! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTu01t7jWZQ 2018-06-24T03:14:28 < kakimir> oh shiet 2018-06-24T03:14:34 < Cracki> footage at real-time, as if... 2018-06-24T03:14:41 < kakimir> japs + nuclear 2018-06-24T03:15:06 < kakimir> that is nuclear reactor powered cnc 2018-06-24T03:15:14 < Cracki> you clearly hear the footage is sped up by the "shape" of the background noise. it's high-pitched, a clear indication 2018-06-24T03:15:24 < Cracki> the camera zooms too fast too 2018-06-24T03:15:40 < Cracki> you hear mickey mice in the background too 2018-06-24T03:16:19 < kakimir> if it's handheld 2018-06-24T03:16:28 < kakimir> shaking looks unnatural 2018-06-24T03:16:36 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T03:16:41 < invzim> gah, gcc biting my ass 2018-06-24T03:16:45 < Cracki> seems to be an april fools video 2018-06-24T03:16:50 < invzim> while (txDone == 0); 2018-06-24T03:16:57 < Cracki> gcc flips its shit if you put a single character at the beginning of a file 2018-06-24T03:17:02 < invzim> txDone is updated by interrupt callback 2018-06-24T03:17:10 < Cracki> that's a perfectly cromulent line of C 2018-06-24T03:17:20 < invzim> with no optimizations, it work, with optimized for size it just hangs.. 2018-06-24T03:17:24 < Cracki> but you might wanna declare that variable volatile 2018-06-24T03:17:27 < Cracki> ^ 2018-06-24T03:17:32 < Cracki> the more you know 2018-06-24T03:20:10 < invzim> Cracki: whaddayanow, thanks :) 2018-06-24T03:20:30 < Cracki> I made that mistake often enough in my embedded stuff. 2018-06-24T03:20:46 < invzim> it was oddballs, if I put a delay in the while stuff it worked 2018-06-24T03:20:57 < invzim> but now it works perfectly, thanks again :) 2018-06-24T03:21:23 < Cracki> the platform headers might declare shit volatile already, but once you try to talk between interrupts and main execution (or processes)... 2018-06-24T03:21:59 < Cracki> the compiler may assume that it knows everything, when it doesn't 2018-06-24T03:22:07 < Cracki> such as other tasks changing the variable. 2018-06-24T03:22:16 < Cracki> it then optimized the loop to while(true); 2018-06-24T03:25:45 < Cracki> have some cnc porn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OSicZ3G9wU 2018-06-24T03:34:05 -!- arha_ [~temp@5-12-214-76.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-24T03:34:14 -!- arha [~temp@79.115.185.25] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T03:46:45 < zyp> englishman, cool, some of them are here too 2018-06-24T03:47:11 < zyp> still have to pay passenger ticket for the driver, but bringing the car is free 2018-06-24T03:47:47 < englishman> yeah same deal 2018-06-24T03:48:01 < englishman> pretty cool 2018-06-24T03:48:14 < englishman> already done 2100km 2018-06-24T03:49:04 < englishman> so saved about $300 in gas 2018-06-24T03:51:41 < zyp> :) 2018-06-24T03:52:39 < zyp> where I lived when I bought the car, I had to take a ferry to go anywhere 2018-06-24T03:53:07 < zyp> quite enjoyed that benefit at the time 2018-06-24T03:53:36 < englishman> yeah no kidding 2018-06-24T03:53:55 < zyp> and then after some months they changed it, instead of letting EVs go for free, they introduced a new ticket at the same rate as MCs 2018-06-24T03:54:26 < zyp> which in practice meant that I had to pay 44 NOK for a ride instead of the 43 NOK I were paying before 2018-06-24T03:55:02 -!- jadew [~razvan@unaffiliated/jadew] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-24T03:55:13 < zyp> for some reason, passenger rates are discounted 17% when using a prepaid discount card, vehicle rates are discounted 50% 2018-06-24T03:55:32 < zyp> prepay amount for the latter is ten times as high though 2018-06-24T03:55:48 < zyp> so yeah, essentially no difference for me 2018-06-24T03:56:14 < zyp> but all the commuters that had monthly passenger passes got fucked 2018-06-24T03:59:43 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-171-163.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T04:13:25 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B0818F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T04:17:08 < stvn> the dogs 2018-06-24T04:17:46 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p5B081C14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-24T04:48:57 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-24T04:58:18 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T05:18:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-24T05:24:07 < dongs> http://bcas.tv/paste/results/Z9sXd786.html from sfserver 2018-06-24T05:36:42 < dongs> zyp, system upodate stuff is just raw mtd image 2018-06-24T05:36:51 < dongs> i.e. update_cfg is just a raw dd if mtd3 2018-06-24T05:36:56 < dongs> if its on sd card it copies it over 2018-06-24T05:39:27 < dongs> my pal who fucked his up with channel 140 fixed cfg this way 2018-06-24T05:39:50 < dongs> and apparently they're all same MAC 2018-06-24T05:39:52 < dongs> addres 2018-06-24T05:40:26 < englishman> what drone is this? 2018-06-24T05:42:25 < dongs> the $60 china shitcopter 2018-06-24T05:42:33 < dongs> JXD-528 or someshit 2018-06-24T05:42:37 < dongs> with all the zano features 2018-06-24T05:42:42 < dongs> follow me, waypoints, etc 2018-06-24T05:44:43 < dongs> and flight firmware is all on F30x, in under 64k bin 2018-06-24T05:44:55 < dongs> meanwhile cloneflight doesnt fit into anything < 256k anymore 2018-06-24T05:44:59 < dongs> and only does gyro flight 2018-06-24T05:45:01 < dongs> l m a o 2018-06-24T05:45:05 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-24T05:45:06 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-24T05:45:06 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T05:45:08 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-24T05:45:15 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T05:46:44 < aandrew> dongs: nice, you been reversing drone shits 2018-06-24T05:47:04 < dongs> haha no. this shit isnt evne worth reversing 2018-06-24T05:47:26 < dongs> oh gawd scrolling throuhg zano dickstarter page 2018-06-24T05:47:28 < dongs> GLOW IN TEH DARK ZANO 2018-06-24T05:47:31 < dongs> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/torquing/zano-autonomous-intelligent-swarming-nano-drone 2018-06-24T05:47:34 < dongs> a m a z e 2018-06-24T05:47:47 < dongs> i wonder if any backers are still asking when thier zano is coming 2018-06-24T05:47:57 < dongs> Missing avatar 2018-06-24T05:47:57 < dongs> saif on May 28, 2018 2018-06-24T05:47:57 < dongs> Fraud... i pledge this project in 2015. Didnt get anything !! 2018-06-24T05:47:58 < dongs> haha 2018-06-24T05:49:30 < dongs> k bbl 2018-06-24T05:50:29 < stvn> backtrace it 2018-06-24T05:51:03 < stvn> i must admit only a few days ago the thought passed my mind 2018-06-24T05:51:22 < stvn> is ivan dead? are people still going nuts on kickshit? 2018-06-24T05:53:35 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-24T05:54:41 < aandrew> that looks like a decent little drone 2018-06-24T05:56:16 < stvn> what what? 2018-06-24T05:56:43 < scrts> yeah, where to send money to get it? 2018-06-24T05:58:30 < stvn> send it to ivan mate 2018-06-24T05:58:54 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za54_iYGXeo 2018-06-24T05:59:33 < aandrew> scrts: https://www.rcmoment.com/p-rm10222.html maybe 2018-06-24T06:01:26 < stvn> oh its not a zano :D 2018-06-24T06:20:57 < scrts> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leFuF-zoVzA 2018-06-24T06:21:34 < scrts> I wonder if there's anything in electronics that you can't find in China... 2018-06-24T06:35:48 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T06:36:57 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T07:02:32 < dongs> astrotorquing 2018-06-24T07:03:44 < dongs> aandrew: tomtom is where 3 people got theirs from 2018-06-24T07:03:58 < dongs> err tomtop 2018-06-24T07:03:59 < dongs> whatever 2018-06-24T07:04:00 < dongs> https://www.tomtop.com/p-rm10222.html 2018-06-24T07:04:01 < dongs> some chink shit 2018-06-24T07:04:06 < dongs> oh lol rcmoment is same url 2018-06-24T07:04:15 < dongs> but 10$ more 2018-06-24T07:08:13 < dongs> lol @ that innov8 url 2018-06-24T07:08:17 < dongs> stvn delivers 2018-06-24T07:09:34 < dongs> I HAVE NO PROBLEM TALKING 2018-06-24T07:09:40 < dongs> yes, thats the only thing tyou dont have a problem with 2018-06-24T07:15:35 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-24T07:16:58 -!- TheSeven 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2018-06-24T07:52:53 < PeterM> because i can see your neck being absolutely fucked 2018-06-24T07:53:07 < Cracki> get stalks for your eyes 2018-06-24T07:54:18 < bitmask> hmm, 10 pages into a 25 page paper and Ive only written the first chapter 2018-06-24T07:55:46 < Cracki> there are two kinds of people: verbose ones that worry about overrunning the limit, and terse ones who worry about underrunning it. 2018-06-24T07:56:04 < bitmask> I am almost exclusively the latter 2018-06-24T07:56:22 < Cracki> write then. delete later. 2018-06-24T08:17:47 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-24T08:19:05 -!- arhs [~aris@unaffiliated/rsha] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-24T08:26:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-24T08:26:23 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T08:29:56 < stvn> too many CRTs 2018-06-24T08:32:23 -!- 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believe it's possible to read the state of boot0 from software at all 2018-06-24T12:37:39 < zyp> depending on your goal, it might be useful to hook boot0 together with a gpio 2018-06-24T12:52:51 < PeterM> dongs your cable people, do they do multicore cable + plug for external (ranther than internal) use? I assume they do but just checking. also zyp i know youve gotten cables a few times, have you had external cables made? 2018-06-24T12:57:42 < zyp> no, haven't had a need for that yet 2018-06-24T12:58:28 < zyp> I figure china will do anything you ask for as long as you're paying 2018-06-24T12:58:37 < PeterM> very true 2018-06-24T13:04:11 < bvernoux> OK so I will reverse the boot rom on F7 to understand the trick to read BOOT0/BOOT1 2018-06-24T13:04:22 < bvernoux> as there is clearly a hint to do that 2018-06-24T13:04:39 < zyp> no, the boot rom doesn't read boot0/boot1 2018-06-24T13:04:49 < bvernoux> are you sure ? 2018-06-24T13:05:08 < bvernoux> the condition is done by SW so it should be done in boot rom 2018-06-24T13:05:44 < zyp> boot0/boot1 are sampled by hardware after reset, and decides what memory area (flash, boot rom or sram) will be aliased to memory address 0x0, then cpu starts executing from 0x0 2018-06-24T13:06:05 < zyp> i.e. by the time any software starts executing, they are already sampled 2018-06-24T13:07:39 < zyp> on some parts there's a field in one of the SYSCFG registers to configure that aliasing, so you can technically read out what the state was at last reset, but I don't believe that would be useful to you 2018-06-24T13:14:02 -!- enh [~enhering@200.141.75.22] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T13:18:50 -!- enh [~enhering@200.141.75.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-24T13:36:49 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-24T13:41:36 < Thorn> >Data can be transmitted to a slave without the need to read incoming data. 2018-06-24T13:41:44 < Thorn> lpc8xx again proved superior 2018-06-24T13:44:39 < Steffanx> But does it beat tarduino? 2018-06-24T13:48:57 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-24T13:53:18 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T13:56:39 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T13:57:21 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-24T14:03:55 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-171-163.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: exit] 2018-06-24T15:01:14 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxkzejelbhwfczbh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-24T15:02:12 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T15:07:12 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-24T15:08:12 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T15:08:15 < Laurenceb__> tfw there are no Spaniards in the channel 2018-06-24T15:08:25 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118746.jpg 2018-06-24T15:12:42 < Steffanx> I just missed a tiny setting i think jadew: https://imgur.com/a/i5XAGKI 2018-06-24T15:12:48 < Steffanx> oh mr jadew isnt here 2018-06-24T15:20:39 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: is that with bowden? 2018-06-24T15:21:15 < dongs> PeterM: yeah no idea, what's an external cable? you mean like, outdoor rated shit? 2018-06-24T15:21:27 < dongs> i'm pretty sure if you can mspaint a drawing it can be quoted 2018-06-24T15:22:22 < dongs> im in best korea tho 2018-06-24T15:22:29 < dongs> so replies might be delayed 2018-06-24T15:23:14 < Steffanx> Ya, PaulFertser 2018-06-24T15:23:38 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: makes sense then 2018-06-24T15:23:48 < Steffanx> Say hi to Kim dongs. 2018-06-24T15:24:01 < Steffanx> Yes, i just missed that checkbox somehow, PaulFertser. 2018-06-24T15:25:17 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: are you not printing https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:909901 ? 2018-06-24T15:25:48 < Steffanx> I did once, but then i changed filament and stuff never optimized it. 2018-06-24T15:26:12 < Steffanx> And imho that thing is nice and you can perfectly tune it for that thing. While it will fail in other situations. 2018-06-24T15:26:22 < Laurenceb__> >when people start posting about sportzball 2018-06-24T15:26:33 < Steffanx> Especially since PETG is known to be stringy 2018-06-24T15:26:56 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: I've recently found out that I can seriously improve quality of my 120 mm/s prints if I set just the _perimeter acceleration_ to 200. 2018-06-24T15:28:11 < Steffanx> 120mm/s prints, damn. I think mine end with 80mm/s 2018-06-24T15:29:00 < PaulFertser> I've set my normal acceleration to 1500 and travel to 3000, no idea how real that is. 2018-06-24T15:29:50 < PaulFertser> When designing a part it makes sense to print it as fast as possible, as it's not a figurine with tiny features. 2018-06-24T15:31:00 < PaulFertser> Why can't you go higher? 2018-06-24T15:32:21 < Steffanx> Idk, never got it to work well. 2018-06-24T15:33:42 < Steffanx> And the current firmware(settings) might limit it to 100m/s 2018-06-24T15:37:13 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: I'll create better pics next time, but https://imgoat.com/v/118750/1 2018-06-24T15:37:49 < Steffanx> Is it actually waving in the Z direction? 2018-06-24T15:37:56 < Steffanx> or whatever you call it. 2018-06-24T15:37:57 < Steffanx> ~ 2018-06-24T15:39:29 < PaulFertser> I do not think it does much, not anywhere significant for the purpose, I do not have the part with me so can't tell how exactly bad it is. 2018-06-24T15:42:41 < Steffanx> I think my printer could do 120mm/s, but my perfectionalism wouldnt allow me to do that because .. quality reasons, PaulFertser. 2018-06-24T15:45:17 < PaulFertser> Steffanx: depends heavily on the purpose and geometry of the part. And post-processing. 2018-06-24T15:47:31 < PaulFertser> btw, for printing with abs and slic3r I need a strange workaround to get reasonable supports for overhangs that involves using a fake nozzle diameter. 2018-06-24T15:52:41 < Steffanx> I didnt try abs yet 2018-06-24T15:53:30 < PaulFertser> I have no cheap petg source, so abs is the next best choice for parts. 2018-06-24T15:54:21 < Steffanx> I dont print that much that i need it to be cheap. 2018-06-24T15:54:33 < Steffanx> Paid 25euro/1kg i believe 2018-06-24T15:56:27 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T15:58:17 < PaulFertser> Local ABS is 7 EUR for 1kg. 2018-06-24T15:59:31 < Steffanx> hah. cant beat htat. 2018-06-24T15:59:38 < Steffanx> I dont think i can even get it locally that cheap 2018-06-24T16:00:57 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-24T16:01:18 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined 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but I haven't changed them from what I ran on the old printer 2018-06-24T21:17:35 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-24T21:21:51 < PaulFertser> Low acceleration for perimeters effectively lowers the speed as well. I'd like to try a post-processing script that would decrease acceleration just for the very first printing move after a travel move. 2018-06-24T21:36:05 < Steffanx> I have this quality over quantity thing zyp :P 2018-06-24T21:36:21 < Steffanx> Sometimes 2018-06-24T21:37:17 < PaulFertser> What do you print Steffanx ? 2018-06-24T21:40:36 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-45e1e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T21:41:05 < Steffanx> Random stuff. Just printed an enclosure thing for some usb thingy ill make 2018-06-24T21:42:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T21:44:58 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T21:45:22 < Steffanx> And some prototype stuff 2018-06-24T21:45:45 < Steffanx> Cant be more specific in public :P 2018-06-24T21:47:58 < Cracki> tentacles and horse anatomy 2018-06-24T21:48:37 < Steffanx> Horse stuff is more a thing for your brother. Dr. Bla 2018-06-24T21:49:25 < PaulFertser> I was printing custom clips for uaz patriot headlight back cover for my friend :/ If we come up with a good model, I might need to print a hundred or so of those. 2018-06-24T21:51:22 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a02:8070:a196:2400:1c8e:fadc:ed7d:4cd8] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-24T21:52:53 < PaulFertser> https://www.viewstl.com/?embedded&url=https://paulfertser.info/uazlampclip.stl 2018-06-24T21:54:05 < PaulFertser> And a specifically-designed holder for an additional front parking camera: https://www.viewstl.com/?embedded&url=https://paulfertser.info/uazcameraholder-v6.stl (this is unlikely to be popular but still, being able to print it faster helps a lot with iterating designs) 2018-06-24T21:55:19 < Steffanx> Oh thats the thing you showed 2018-06-24T21:56:45 < Steffanx> Printed that without support? 2018-06-24T21:57:37 < PaulFertser> SolveSpace is nice but one needs to refrain from fillets and chamfers. :/ Probably it can export STEP so that fillets can be added in FreeCAD but FreeCAD crashes on my machine so no idea about that. 2018-06-24T21:57:39 < englishman> Steffanx i thought that weed was legal in steffanland? people are saying canada will be the first real country with legal stoners 2018-06-24T21:57:55 < PaulFertser> No, both models need supports. 2018-06-24T21:59:25 < Steffanx> Its not legal englishbot 2018-06-24T21:59:29 < Steffanx> englishman 2018-06-24T22:00:02 < englishman> oh just decriminalized 2018-06-24T22:00:23 < branjb> I thought amsterdam everything was legal 2018-06-24T22:00:29 < branjb> like the vegas of europe 2018-06-24T22:00:50 < englishman> so all those "coffee shops" are illegal 2018-06-24T22:01:37 < zyp> I'm just printing benchys 2018-06-24T22:02:09 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-24T22:03:08 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T22:04:40 < Steffanx> Yes, illegal, but "tolerated" or whatever you would call it in english, but only when they comply with some rules. 2018-06-24T22:05:16 < Steffanx> "illegal, but not punishable" as wikipedia says. 2018-06-24T22:05:18 < englishman> which include kickbacks probably 2018-06-24T22:06:08 < PaulFertser> I'm using this trick for ABS warping on overhangs: https://github.com/prusa3d/Slic3r/issues/102 2018-06-24T22:12:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-24T22:15:35 < Steffanx> The results look pretty nice 2018-06-24T22:15:43 < Steffanx> especially that last pic 2018-06-24T22:17:47 < Steffanx> When will it be legal englishman? 4/20(/2019) 4:20AM/PM ? 2018-06-24T22:18:01 < englishman> october or something 2018-06-24T22:18:02 < englishman> idk 2018-06-24T22:20:56 < Steffanx> you mean: idc 2018-06-24T22:23:25 < englishman> one thing i do like is the new law defines impairment as a certain blood level of THC 2018-06-24T22:23:43 < englishman> so stoners can't drive for like 2 weeks after getting high or they will get criminal charges 2018-06-24T22:23:51 < Steffanx> lol 2018-06-24T22:37:19 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T22:43:20 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-24T22:50:31 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-24T23:07:14 -!- tdjones [~tdjones@host-184-167-177-46.csp-wy.client.bresnan.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T23:15:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-24T23:36:05 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yzepcqekctsicagg] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T23:45:53 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-24T23:46:59 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-24T23:47:19 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-238.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] --- Day changed Mon Jun 25 2018 2018-06-25T00:08:47 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-25T00:14:21 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T00:14:29 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T00:19:21 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T00:27:25 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T00:35:21 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T00:36:13 < englishman> i replaced a capacitor, stvn are you proud 2018-06-25T00:36:27 < stvn> Yeah 2018-06-25T00:37:41 < englishman> https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=B33364A5505J050 2018-06-25T00:38:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T00:43:04 < Cracki> TIL: mozilla uses the communist Red Star for its logo, at least on its github 2018-06-25T00:44:36 < Steffanx> Where is our Capacitor Replacing Tranny, stvn? 2018-06-25T00:47:03 < BrainDamage> did stvn become a tranny merely to trigger failrenceb? 2018-06-25T00:52:02 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T00:53:41 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-25T00:54:25 < stvn> CRT is out raping 2018-06-25T01:00:34 < Steffanx> Rapping* 2018-06-25T01:00:50 < Steffanx> Best rap is still in the zypsnips 2018-06-25T01:01:21 < stvn> Yeah? 2018-06-25T01:01:25 < kakimir> should I drive 2018-06-25T01:01:29 < kakimir> or should I sleep 2018-06-25T01:01:35 < stvn> Yeah 2018-06-25T01:03:16 < Steffanx> https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/stm32-rap.txt stvn 2018-06-25T01:05:21 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T01:05:27 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T01:06:02 < stvn> Lol 2018-06-25T01:07:03 < Steffanx> Crt was on a roll 2018-06-25T01:07:55 < stvn> On everyone’s ignore list 2018-06-25T01:08:32 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-45e1e253.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-25T01:08:41 < Steffanx> Yeah how sad is that 2018-06-25T01:09:21 < stvn> so sad 2018-06-25T01:11:54 < Steffanx> What kind of question is that kakimir. 2018-06-25T01:12:00 < BrainDamage> I'll make it through hole, arrow's shippiment didn't come as whole 2018-06-25T01:12:17 < Steffanx> Drive or sleep. Drive to where? We need more intel. 2018-06-25T01:13:30 < Steffanx> at all*, braindamage 2018-06-25T01:14:24 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-25T01:15:26 < kakimir> drive to work or sleep and then drive to work 2018-06-25T01:16:26 < Steffanx> Kakimir Tell us mate, whats your mental state? 2018-06-25T01:17:34 < kakimir> mania 2018-06-25T01:18:31 < Steffanx> Why drive when you can sleep till 5? 2018-06-25T01:19:00 < BrainDamage> lock yourself into a tool cabinet and sleep there 2018-06-25T01:19:36 < kakimir> Steffanx: 5PM? 2018-06-25T01:19:39 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-25T01:20:09 < Steffanx> Idk its the only thing that rhymes with drive. Couldnt come up with something better 2018-06-25T01:20:18 < Steffanx> Maybe 6.55? 2018-06-25T01:20:50 < BrainDamage> dave jone's my master, pumpin the i2c clock rate faster 2018-06-25T01:23:16 < Steffanx> Pumping is all we do, together in the ##stm32 zoo.. yeah. Uhuh. Ah 2018-06-25T01:23:16 < BrainDamage> arduino's on my base, makin iot all the craze 2018-06-25T01:30:35 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] --- Log closed Mon Jun 25 01:30:35 2018 --- Log opened Mon Jun 25 01:30:42 2018 2018-06-25T01:30:42 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T01:30:42 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 143 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 142 normal] 2018-06-25T01:31:54 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 78 secs 2018-06-25T01:31:59 < upgrdman> creepy ass "quadcopter" like thing https://gfycat.com/FastFailingBullfrog 2018-06-25T01:38:21 < arha> modular robots? 2018-06-25T01:39:07 < arha> is the power cord swinging because of the air currents or because of that creepass thing is connected to it --- Log closed Mon Jun 25 01:46:37 2018 --- Log opened Mon Jun 25 02:02:34 2018 2018-06-25T02:02:34 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T02:02:34 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 142 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 141 normal] 2018-06-25T02:04:11 < bitmask> that dragon thing is awesome 2018-06-25T02:04:11 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T02:04:12 < Laurenceb__> Trump visit to bongland soon 2018-06-25T02:04:12 < Laurenceb__> what should I do? 2018-06-25T02:04:13 < Laurenceb__> I see there are Lobster costumes on ebay, tempted tbh 2018-06-25T02:05:20 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 205 secs 2018-06-25T02:05:52 < Laurenceb__> I could get a kekistan flag too... 2018-06-25T02:13:06 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118868.png 2018-06-25T02:18:25 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118870.jpg 2018-06-25T02:19:31 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118872.jpg 2018-06-25T02:28:24 < Cracki> lol 2018-06-25T02:29:28 < Cracki> perhaps high fences around your own house are a good idea. let them taste diversity for the rest of their short lives. 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[~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] --- Log closed Mon Jun 25 13:02:03 2018 --- Log opened Mon Jun 25 13:03:17 2018 2018-06-25T13:03:17 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T13:03:17 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 140 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 139 normal] 2018-06-25T13:04:33 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 83 secs 2018-06-25T13:16:00 < stvn> pspices 2018-06-25T13:34:41 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-25T13:39:12 < Steffann> ^ what i read 2018-06-25T13:39:48 < Steffann> So BrainDamage you were on a roll, or was it the alcohol? ;) 2018-06-25T13:53:39 < stvn> pspice was fun 2018-06-25T13:58:25 < BrainDamage> Steffann: i was on a roll 2018-06-25T14:09:02 < stvn> THE CRITICAL MASS 2018-06-25T14:09:46 -!- tct [~tct@adsl-130-227.dsl.init7.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T14:09:52 < tct> this is tectu 2018-06-25T14:10:54 < zyp> this is madness 2018-06-25T14:11:02 < tct> :-D 2018-06-25T14:11:41 < jpa-> zyp: this tectu is too small for both of us 2018-06-25T14:11:49 < BrainDamage> ceci n'est pas un tectu 2018-06-25T14:12:21 < tct> c'est jamais un tectu, c'est toujours le tectu! 2018-06-25T14:12:23 < tct> so there was some car with .no plates here yesterday. The plate wasn't the usual white background but some strange light-greenish. what's up with that, Mr. zyp? 2018-06-25T14:12:35 < zyp> black on green? 2018-06-25T14:12:45 < tct> jpa-, trust me, I'm big enough for the two of you ;-) 2018-06-25T14:12:48 < tct> zyp, yes 2018-06-25T14:13:34 < tct> zyp: data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxISEhUSEhIWFRUVFRYVEhUVFhUVFRUVFRUWFhUVFRUYHSggGBolGxUVITEhJSkrLi4uFx8zODMtNygtLisBCgoKDg0OGhAQGy0fHR4rLSsrLS0tKy0tLS0tLS0rLysrKy0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0rLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLf/AABEIAKYBLwMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAABBQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAIDBAUGB//EAEgQAAECAwMHCAcECAYDAQAAAAEAAgMEERIhUQUGEzFBYZEUUlNxgZKh0QcVFiKxwdIyY6LhFyNCQ2KT8PFUcoKjwuJEstMz/8QAGQEBAQADAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQF/8QALhEAAgICAAQEBAYDAA 2018-06-25T14:13:34 < tct> 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pic, much base64 2018-06-25T14:14:01 < tct> lz5JQalHqmaTcpUDBZ+xptusxYYh+AB4qITQwVVELufw7A/T/LJD4nxMG2pdevJf6LMve4n+tauKpI6yrXWuTiUoz1XRJI8jPNzm5PqyplWPYZdrNw+ao5Jl7RLnXgfFSZcN7RuPyU+Rh+rriT5LhfOZ2R/L4W11ZfSSQW084z8tu90Df8AfNLIjfcJxd8lDlx17R1n4KGVbGDfcLgNxpetLdSPUhj24ZK6vuboQVOQMUk6QmlBQE16yri2Xys4vDrIoXfToWcjC1MNrqFonbqB81Plx4Md1NQsgdgHzqo83RWITTUKY6yPJMyk+saIf43eBp8lo4b1Z7vx1pVFfQrkJky8NFXXYDaexOeCQQMCsmLLFjTdXf/AF2LfOTXoeLw+OM3+KVDMmwS59rYDXtWwyIDXdrVHJU1aFigBAuI2jHrViffZhuO6nG5Yw5KzZxO08ur 2018-06-25T14:14:06 < tct> X0RnR4hivpUACtK3XDWStGBHhNAa17fH40osuRlbeutLqa76/K5PylKhlC3bcsE31OnJDHJrFbRsPbXYD1oFgJBI1eCgya8mGK7x2DUrJW3rzPOknCTjfQxpn3o1P4gOFAVtLDkzaignElbgCxx+rOrjOSjHsghU8qvoymKtOeACTcBrWTQx34NHgPNWb5UauGhctn0RayVDo0nEpuVY9KMG289WwK8GgCgFFjRRbjEYmnYP7LF8o0bsLWTK5vouZPLTbGDUXEgV2X7davQZhrxUcDsUE5CaGUDdlxwpvVfJAvdhQfNE2nRlOMMmN5F1NRZuVn/Zb/V/9FaNVm2TEmGsG1wA7FZuka+EjeT7HbS8OyxrcGgcApFVZLxzrJHYpRJRsTwC0pM9fkbUWXh3XNvO0C/EBV5iVZStAOwLPiHUTr2biVDNXtIOo67yFlujHV9zjc 2018-06-25T14:14:12 < tct> 4m2YxAwPzUQub2JuV//wBCMAB8k+mxep8N5uT+xx8V6I7DKWT4b2CCxjWxWwWxAQAC66hBoL7wsfOeE1kRga0NpCYSAALzWpNNZUUXLMR0Zsa4OaA0AVpQVuIrvUGUcoOjvMRwANA2jagXda6cWHJCS2fLn/ZrnkjJOkKQNxOKt1VaS+z2qyuHiX+Yzzcn6mZeXIZoHYXcUzI80ACxxAvqK6t4WpEYHChFQVlR8kH9k3b1ySTTtHbhy454vCyOuxsFmo1+F6Cx5fJjw4EkChB4LYKyi2+pzZscYNaysw8ru98f5R8StaSbRjRuCoTsg97y4UpsvwAWoxtAAsYp7NnRnyReGMUwgoEIPhg0rsTiKrNq1RzYprHOM+tOzUzZaG2nuc1oBbWpAJAqbsVmvdUk4kniUxGqwxw0VHVxvGy4qezVC13Aiu0A3jsVfKMUNYQdZFAN 2018-06-25T14:14:16 < jpa-> tct: can ugfx decode data:image/jpeg,base64? 2018-06-25T14:14:16 < BrainDamage> do you espect us to copypaste and decode it? 2018-06-25T14:14:16 < tct> t+1UpnJrnOLg4GpqlBySf2ncPNVyb5USGPDGpOf8AyNCNS7ZSit5VH6s7qK1DhhooLgi5gIodqqj+GjXPPtl37GfkiKCCNRu1bQoMqxauDRfTX1nYnxMkmvuuuViUye1l5vPgFr1lWp0vLhU/FTv6FiUh2WBuAv69qMy6jHHAH4KVRTMK20trSq21SOHbady7mbkVnvE4D4/2WrEeACSaBQSUoIdb61TpqBbFK0Cximom7POOTLd8jKjzOkcATZbXb8TRaMGZgtAAf8Ahd5KD1SOcU4ZKbiVilJOzpnPh5RUbaS7GhrWIXaOLU6gTwK21HFlGv8AtBZyjZy4Mqxt30ZQn5wOAayprrup2K3IwLDb9ZvPkpoMk1v2W9t6lMM4FRRd2y5M0ddIdCMqvmkA6da46m2neBA+KdNEtDjqAbf8kczIdXxH4AN4n8lhkZ18FDqz0J 2018-06-25T14:14:21 < tct> 01D5yBnWY/FY7nAa9tyICniM7fDQqKGIKqZNK0m04TLQAivB13U8CoOXHmA9pWjnJJPEUvp7rtvUAKeCxaLfjzTx/pdGueOMuqLPL/AOAcShy37scSq6Nm6tdS2vjMz/ca/AgvQvQsrECmjHEqT1yejHErLARWqWWUnbZj5TE/2mn66PRDvOR9d/dDvHyWdRB7b7lPEZPJ4u3uaXrv7r8R8kvXI6L8R8llgJUTdjyeLt7mr66HRfi/JD1yOi/EfJZZ4rtZ/JEhDER4NdHSLYtm9kVjxChVrrDwCTroUU5E8nh7e5z7Mrgm+GR/qr8kXZXHRnj+S3YOSZEsa9zrNqFDjloeahrWt0rNf2nOtDEbEyQyRJxYTHOdo3RGOoLZ9x0N7jEcanmWQAVdpDymHt7mH65+6/EfJL1v91+I+SvZOybDiRXvsNEKw58GGX1cW2rLbrQJ 2018-06-25T14:14:26 -!- mode/##stm32 [+o zyp] by ChanServ 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the qualifications for green plates are :p 2018-06-25T14:23:49 < tct> zyp, good, so my plan worked :p 2018-06-25T14:23:54 < tct> zyp, what are they? 2018-06-25T14:24:00 < zyp> "van, class 2", requirements are only one row of seats, protective wall between the seats and the cargo space and at least 140x90x105cm cargo space 2018-06-25T14:24:01 < tct> because it was a semi-regular car 2018-06-25T14:24:22 < zyp> benefits are less car taxes than standard class cars 2018-06-25T14:24:22 < tct> yeah, that's a semi-regular car here that you can drive with regular drivers license and regular plates 2018-06-25T14:24:27 < tct> makes sense 2018-06-25T14:24:48 < zyp> yes, they are still normal class B cars in terms of drivers license 2018-06-25T14:24:56 < zyp> just a different tax class 2018-06-25T14:25:55 < zyp> I guess the point of visibly showing the difference on the license plate is so illegaly converted cars can be easily spotted and reported 2018-06-25T14:26:02 < jpa-> finland had also that, our car is like that but it is allowed to have seats in the back also as long as they are not comfortable :P 2018-06-25T14:26:12 < zyp> haha 2018-06-25T14:26:48 < tct> lol 2018-06-25T14:27:05 < tct> so why would one drive with a car like that from .no to .ch? 2018-06-25T14:27:12 < tct> basically into the garage of my building 2018-06-25T14:27:31 < tct> I was actually getting excited as I thought there might be some surprise visiting happening 2018-06-25T14:27:31 < zyp> to pick up or deliver something, maybe? it's a van after all 2018-06-25T14:27:40 < jpa-> they'll kidnap you and the coffin will fit in the back 2018-06-25T14:27:49 * tct is a tall bastard 2018-06-25T14:27:56 < tct> BrainDamage can confirm 2018-06-25T14:27:58 < zyp> or it could be a van converted to a camper, maybe 2018-06-25T14:28:20 < tct> one does not camp in a sub-terrain parking garage 2018-06-25T14:28:48 < zyp> also, I'm not sure the system still exists, I think most vans I've seen recently have normal white plates 2018-06-25T14:30:21 < tct> maybe they traveled through a wormhole at the border between germany and swissland? 2018-06-25T14:30:31 < jpa-> here they all have normal plates, which is fortunately so that it is not as obvious that you could legally only drive 100km/h with that car type 2018-06-25T14:31:03 < jpa-> though in our car, the turbo always misbehaves so that you'd be lucky to get it go over 100km/h anyway :P 2018-06-25T14:31:25 < zyp> hmm, it does still exist, found a half year old article about this stuff: https://www.abcnyheter.no/motor/bil/2017/12/18/195357014/det-er-en-grunn-til-de-fleste-av-den-har-gronne-skilter 2018-06-25T14:32:41 < zyp> article says five seat version of that car would cost 1109010 NOK with white plates, two seat version is 778950 NOK with green plates 2018-06-25T14:39:26 < Steffann> Wut the tct is alive :o 2018-06-25T14:40:31 -!- Steffann is now known as Steffanx 2018-06-25T14:40:53 < Steffanx> Where have you been? 2018-06-25T14:41:13 < zyp> out looking for norwegian cars 2018-06-25T14:48:45 < Steffanx> I see. I see them on the road too. 2018-06-25T14:49:15 < Steffanx> How are the EV with .no plated in dutchland plans? 2018-06-25T14:49:20 < Steffanx> Plates* 2018-06-25T14:50:51 < zyp> I thought I already told you I'd probably be dropping by jul 31. 2018-06-25T14:53:01 < Steffanx> Yes, but plans change. 2018-06-25T14:53:15 < zyp> haven't so far 2018-06-25T14:53:21 < Steffanx> And i happen to be on holiday during that time. 2018-06-25T14:53:31 < Steffanx> (no plans made yet so.. ) 2018-06-25T14:53:53 < Steffanx> Holiday = no work 2018-06-25T14:54:11 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2018-06-25T14:55:26 < zyp> so far I have a hotel booking in Düsseldorf until 29th and a ferry ticket from Kiel aug 2., haven't booked anything in between yet, but the plan is to take a trip through .be/.nl those days 2018-06-25T14:56:22 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T15:04:02 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-25T15:05:39 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T15:05:40 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118967.png 2018-06-25T15:18:03 < kakimir> luckily I don't have xtraputty in works 2018-06-25T15:18:18 < kakimir> so copy pasteing suspisious links is too much of work 2018-06-25T15:18:40 < kakimir> article 13. take that laurenceb 2018-06-25T15:19:53 < Steffanx> englishman are you awake? 2018-06-25T15:20:37 < Steffanx> Is it normal for arrow orders to have them take money from my cc multiple times? 2018-06-25T15:21:05 < Steffanx> As in: it seems they split the order, and also split the payment 2018-06-25T15:24:32 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6819:3f38:1942:e84a:4203:70de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T15:32:10 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T15:40:13 < Laurenceb__> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5878741/BBC-make-Lord-Alan-Sugar-unconscious-bias-test-Senegal-football-World-Cup-tweet.html 2018-06-25T15:40:17 < Laurenceb__> my sides 2018-06-25T15:42:10 < Laurenceb__> nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition 2018-06-25T15:49:47 < Laurenceb__> when ur prospective girlfriends arrive https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118973.jpg 2018-06-25T15:55:20 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-25T15:58:04 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-25T15:58:51 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T16:00:26 < englishman> Steffanx: yes 2018-06-25T16:06:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T16:06:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T16:06:54 < Thorn> I came up with an improvement to the kakimir qfn soldering method 2018-06-25T16:07:20 < Thorn> you should tin not only pcb pads but IC pads too 2018-06-25T16:10:32 < jpa-> yeah 2018-06-25T16:22:30 < zyp> heh, I googled some stuff, found a bunch of forum posts I made when I were 16 2018-06-25T16:22:59 < jpa-> "how to download porn for free"? 2018-06-25T16:23:02 < zyp> now I'm split between feeling old and feeling I've come some way since then 2018-06-25T16:25:08 < Thorn> I dropped a bme280 on the floor today and spent 15 min looking for it :/ 2018-06-25T16:25:49 < zyp> maybe you should clean your floor 2018-06-25T16:26:40 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T16:27:13 < Steffanx> Lol zyp. 2018-06-25T16:27:14 < Thorn> a more fascinating story: the mcu on one of my lpc824 boards had low level = 0.7V on its outputs 2018-06-25T16:27:33 < zyp> sinking a lot of current? 2018-06-25T16:27:38 < Steffanx> Oh thats sucks englishman. Especially since exchange rates can change a lot in a week time 2018-06-25T16:27:52 < englishman> well you ordered ARROW 2018-06-25T16:27:56 < englishman> anything can happen 2018-06-25T16:27:56 < Thorn> I reflowed it, pushed down on it with tweezers and guess what, 0V 2018-06-25T16:28:12 < Thorn> center pad probably wasn't connected to ground lol 2018-06-25T16:28:20 < zyp> englishman, what's that about exchange rates? 2018-06-25T16:28:31 < kakimir> Thorn: what pack? 2018-06-25T16:28:50 < englishman> steffy is worried the cost of his $30 protoboard will go down in a week 2018-06-25T16:29:07 < zyp> haha 2018-06-25T16:29:16 < zyp> what toys are you buying him= 2018-06-25T16:29:39 < englishman> no he is just discovering the dark side of arrow 2018-06-25T16:29:51 < Steffanx> You have no clue englishman 2018-06-25T16:30:09 < Steffanx> Perhaps my order was $2k7 2018-06-25T16:30:14 < Steffanx> + 2018-06-25T16:30:48 < englishman> dont they bill you in your desired currency? 2018-06-25T16:30:54 < kakimir> is that arrow some kind of electronics stock exchange 2018-06-25T16:30:55 < Steffanx> It wasnt, it was only $68 2018-06-25T16:31:04 < Thorn> kakimir: qfn33 0.5mm pitch (and also bme280) 2018-06-25T16:31:16 < Steffanx> I see dollars, englishman 2018-06-25T16:31:23 < Steffanx> And 2 different rates 2018-06-25T16:31:26 < englishman> select yuros next time? 2018-06-25T16:31:38 < kakimir> you pay something and when the payment is registered your order has half of the stuff you thought you would get 2018-06-25T16:32:07 < Steffanx> Rates changed an entire 0.6 cent in a week time. You know... Munny 2018-06-25T16:35:00 < englishman> Your OneDrive account will be deleted on 7/25/2018 2018-06-25T16:35:09 < englishman> i did not sign up for this 2018-06-25T16:36:35 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T16:38:16 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T16:40:29 < karlp> hrm, passat gte is quite well priced. 2018-06-25T16:42:09 < zyp> at least if your government gives some sort of tax discount to hybrids 2018-06-25T16:43:27 < zyp> I believe here, the weight of the battery is not considered when calculating the weight-based component of the fee, and the electric driving reduces the average emissions, reducing the emission-based component 2018-06-25T16:43:34 < karlp> it's fractionally cheaper than the disel version 2018-06-25T16:43:55 < karlp> and reqykjavik is small enough that we'd be able to do ~most stuff on just electric 2018-06-25T16:43:58 < zyp> at the same equipment level, or how are you comparing? 2018-06-25T16:44:25 < karlp> at ~ßame equipment le3vel, yes. 2018-06-25T16:44:50 < karlp> they're not directly comparable, base level GTE has a bunch of stuff from "comfort" line in "regular" passat 2018-06-25T16:45:14 < zyp> yeah, same as here 2018-06-25T16:45:58 < zyp> GTE starts at 464k NOK, plain ones starts at 391k 2018-06-25T16:46:19 < englishman> damn, the egolf wont be here for another 2 years and you guys already get e-passats 2018-06-25T16:47:02 < zyp> we've had both golf and passat GTE here for a couple of years now 2018-06-25T16:47:24 < karlp> Ive no idea when we got them, but I think very recently. 2018-06-25T16:47:32 < englishman> 8.7 kWh 2018-06-25T16:47:35 < englishman> not too bad 2018-06-25T16:48:30 < englishman> or even 9.9 maybe 2018-06-25T16:49:03 < zyp> I'm jealous of the golf GTE's trailer hitch, 2018-06-25T16:49:13 < englishman> what are you waiting for? go to a dealer 2018-06-25T16:49:26 < karlp> englishman: bit more than I was hoping to pay for a new car, 2018-06-25T16:49:31 < zyp> no, e-golf is not type-approved for towing 2018-06-25T16:49:44 < karlp> was kinda looking at ~1.5-2mil, new would be ~5mil. 2018-06-25T16:49:57 < englishman> more than a bit 2018-06-25T16:50:11 < karlp> well I _can_ make the payments on the new one, 2018-06-25T16:50:16 < karlp> just hadn't really been thinking of it. 2018-06-25T16:50:18 < englishman> you have a stable job right? become a bourgeoisie, spend all your money on some dumb car 2018-06-25T16:50:35 < karlp> the other PHEVs around here are not as appealing, it's outlanders and big volvos 2018-06-25T16:50:42 < karlp> hell, there's a cayenne phev downt he street 2018-06-25T16:50:48 < zyp> considering the e-golf has the exact same chassis as any other golf mk7, there's plenty of options that's a direct bolt on 2018-06-25T16:50:54 < zyp> I can even legally mount one 2018-06-25T16:50:59 < zyp> I just can't use it for towing 2018-06-25T16:51:01 < karlp> englishman: yeah, I don't _want_ to justw go spend all my money on a car though. 2018-06-25T16:51:08 < zyp> using it to mount a bike rack is fine 2018-06-25T16:51:26 < karlp> why would you not just have a weight limit for the trailer? why would it just be banned? 2018-06-25T16:51:42 < englishman> why a hybrid btw? i'm still not convinced they they aren't the worst of both worlds 2018-06-25T16:51:47 < zyp> your guess is as good as mine 2018-06-25T16:52:04 < karlp> englishman: live in town, short trips normally, stay within the electric range the whole time 2018-06-25T16:52:09 < karlp> but still actualyl capable of going places. 2018-06-25T16:52:22 < englishman> ask zyp about that second part 2018-06-25T16:52:23 < karlp> even going places it still gets bettermileage than our current car. 2018-06-25T16:52:40 < englishman> or just keep the first car around as a long distance only car 2018-06-25T16:52:42 < karlp> he lives in a suburb of a suburb 2018-06-25T16:52:44 < zyp> I think the only way hybrids could be worse are in terms of maintentance 2018-06-25T16:53:08 < karlp> yeah, don't think I'd buy a second hand one. 2018-06-25T16:53:18 < zyp> since you both got all the old moving parts and the new fancy tech 2018-06-25T16:53:33 < englishman> two motors for the price of two 2018-06-25T16:53:55 < zyp> but in terms of convenience, I think PHEVs are pretty decent 2018-06-25T16:54:06 < karlp> well, I'm not having -two_ cars, and it's unviable to have _only_ an EV here. 2018-06-25T16:54:20 < englishman> well i would examine that second part a bit more 2018-06-25T16:54:31 < englishman> because i'm finding it's absolutely ok 2018-06-25T16:54:33 < englishman> so far 2018-06-25T16:54:45 < englishman> of course there are 4 cars here now until i sell the volvo 2018-06-25T16:55:13 < englishman> but you could find there are decent community car rentals or convenient charging stations around 2018-06-25T16:55:18 < karlp> hehe. 2018-06-25T16:55:21 < karlp> right. 2018-06-25T16:55:21 < englishman> especially in a progressive country like iceland 2018-06-25T16:55:26 < karlp> yes, it's progressing quickly. 2018-06-25T16:55:33 < karlp> I have no interest in being part of that. 2018-06-25T16:55:36 < zyp> if you're going into it with the mindset that having to stop to charge is unacceptable, I can see only having an EV being unviable 2018-06-25T16:56:26 < karlp> heh, people are selling 3 year old passatas for 4mil, can buy the new one for under 5. 2018-06-25T16:57:00 < zyp> the area where my parents live doesn't have good enough charger coverage yet, I wouldn't buy an EV as my only car if I were planning to live there 2018-06-25T16:57:25 < zyp> or, I mean, it all depends on what my budget were 2018-06-25T16:57:59 < zyp> a tesla wouldn't have any problems getting out without running out of battery 2018-06-25T16:59:19 < zyp> but my car can't even reach the closest CCS charger 2018-06-25T16:59:52 < englishman> well the battery capacity difference is astounding 2018-06-25T17:02:38 < zyp> one of my friends got a Hyundai Kona on order, I think that'll come with a 64 kWh battery if I remember correctly 2018-06-25T17:03:08 < zyp> so range is getting less and less of a concern 2018-06-25T17:05:02 < englishman> only available here with turbocharged gas motor 2018-06-25T17:05:04 < englishman> sigh 2018-06-25T17:05:29 < zyp> apparently not very available here either 2018-06-25T17:06:14 < zyp> I think I heard something like the waiting list is five times as long as the number of deliveries we're getting 2018-06-25T17:07:04 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T17:07:59 < englishman> heh 2018-06-25T17:08:06 < englishman> good sign. 2018-06-25T17:08:28 < zyp> I think there were something similar with the ioniq a couple of years ago 2018-06-25T17:10:22 < karlp> what happened with that though? I've not heard/seen of ioniq since then 2018-06-25T17:10:35 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T17:10:47 < zyp> I see them around 2018-06-25T17:11:26 < zyp> apparently we have 3858 ioniq EVs in norway at the moment 2018-06-25T17:12:31 < zyp> they're pretty decent too 2018-06-25T17:13:35 < zyp> cheaper than my car, comparable equipment level, larger battery, faster charging, and for some reason they also seem to have less consumption 2018-06-25T17:14:34 < zyp> I like my car, but I have to admit that the ioniq seems like a better value for money 2018-06-25T17:15:06 -!- freakuency_ [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T17:16:10 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6819:3f38:1942:e84a:4203:70de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-25T17:18:05 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T17:27:06 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gedgxbpgqplzheuo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-25T17:43:29 < englishman> 890 ioniq in canada lol 2018-06-25T17:51:02 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T18:12:03 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-25T18:14:26 < Laurenceb> https://imgoat.com/uploads/7e1cd7dca8/118985.png 2018-06-25T18:16:43 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T18:18:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T18:20:39 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T18:21:40 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-25T18:21:41 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2018-06-25T18:29:03 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-25T18:32:00 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-25T19:00:03 -!- BrainDamage_ [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T19:01:05 -!- BrainDamage [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T19:01:05 -!- BrainDamage_ is now known as BrainDamage 2018-06-25T19:01:44 < Cracki> is that some variant of botox or what 2018-06-25T19:06:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T19:11:27 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T19:18:36 < Steffanx> That moment you find a mistake in your pcb AFTER you send it to a fab -_- 2018-06-25T19:18:50 < kakimir> how much? 2018-06-25T19:19:12 < Steffanx> How much what? 2018-06-25T19:20:36 < kakimir> money 2018-06-25T19:20:45 < kakimir> lossess 2018-06-25T19:24:01 < PaulFertser> Probably it's not too late to amend the order. 2018-06-25T19:27:43 < Steffanx> $15 kakimir no big loss 2018-06-25T19:34:11 < Streaker> Just solder the IC upside down 2018-06-25T19:40:16 < zyp> Steffanx, best to not keep staring at the design after you send it to the fab :p 2018-06-25T19:40:35 < zyp> otherwise you'll always find something you're not entirely happy with 2018-06-25T19:41:50 < zyp> unless you're unlucky it's normally just trivial mostly cosmetic stuff though 2018-06-25T19:47:47 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T19:48:33 < Steffanx> Nah i noticed when i looked at the progress. Noticed something impossible in the preview on the same page, zyp 2018-06-25T19:49:54 < zyp> aww 2018-06-25T19:53:00 < Steffanx> Yes, that 2018-06-25T19:53:33 < zyp> in that case you should stare more at the design before you send it to the fab :p 2018-06-25T19:53:38 < zyp> also DRC properly :p 2018-06-25T19:55:03 < Steffanx> DRC wouldnt have found an error in the schematic symbol. 2018-06-25T19:55:10 < Steffanx> just a tiny one, not something that cant be fixed 2018-06-25T20:00:34 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T20:02:14 < englishman> aandrew: did you find that default grandcream securitty settings are crap 2018-06-25T20:02:20 < englishman> started getting chinese ddos 2018-06-25T20:02:36 < englishman> til i set it to basic obvious security settings which default to off 2018-06-25T20:08:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-25T20:24:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T20:43:20 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T20:47:11 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-25T20:47:42 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T20:51:35 -!- kow__ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T20:52:10 -!- kow_ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-25T20:53:20 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-25T21:04:46 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-25T21:07:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T21:26:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a3b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T21:39:38 -!- tdjones [~tdjones@host-184-167-177-46.csp-wy.client.bresnan.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T21:59:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-25T22:16:10 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mujqsfprlhdyoeko] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T22:16:51 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-25T22:18:12 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T22:30:13 < stvn> Cook up 2018-06-25T22:44:24 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-25T23:14:44 < englishman> Laurenceb: found a way for you to post charts in this chan instead of taking screenshots and posting them to racist image hosts https://github.com/guptarohit/asciigraph 2018-06-25T23:17:48 < Steffanx> How can image host be racist englishman? 2018-06-25T23:17:57 < Steffanx> *an 2018-06-25T23:18:17 < PaulFertser> I wonder what actual usecase this library covers. 2018-06-25T23:18:40 < englishman> https://youtu.be/83STpUXHilk?t=4m48s 2018-06-25T23:18:58 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T23:20:26 -!- con3_ [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-25T23:23:09 < Laurenceb__> muh gui 2018-06-25T23:23:10 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T23:24:01 < Steffanx> Damn that thing has a long warm up time englishman, no fun 2018-06-25T23:24:29 < Steffanx> Dont we all need it to be instantly hot? 2018-06-25T23:24:52 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-25T23:25:44 < Laurenceb__> muh gui has no temperature sensor input 2018-06-25T23:25:45 < Laurenceb__> so no 2018-06-25T23:26:53 < Steffanx> What was this solder paste you were such big fan of mr englishman? Was it loctite gc 10? 2018-06-25T23:27:06 < englishman> yes 2018-06-25T23:27:08 < englishman> T4 2018-06-25T23:28:15 < Steffanx> ty 2018-06-25T23:51:50 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Day changed Tue Jun 26 2018 2018-06-26T00:03:45 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 2018-06-26T00:04:19 -!- mentar [~quassel@38.ip-51-254-125.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T00:05:54 -!- inf^ [~informati@unaffiliated/informatic] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T00:06:05 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-26T00:06:05 -!- inf [~informati@unaffiliated/informatic] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-26T00:06:22 -!- rbino [~rbino@rbino.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T00:13:32 < Cracki> loctite dmakes solder paste? TIL 2018-06-26T00:13:53 < Cracki> fascinating https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/h/henkel-loctite/gc-10-solder-paste 2018-06-26T00:15:41 < kow__> https://www.soldergamechanger.com/en/sample-order.html 2018-06-26T00:15:45 < kow__> :) 2018-06-26T00:15:56 < Cracki> nowai 2018-06-26T00:16:11 < Cracki> present for the boss 2018-06-26T00:17:10 < Lux> Steffanx: https://eleshop.eu/loctite-gc10-solder-paste-20g.html 2018-06-26T00:17:16 < Cracki> water-washable o.o 2018-06-26T00:17:22 < Lux> in case you don't want to buy 500g of that paste 2018-06-26T00:17:27 < Lux> just found it the other day 2018-06-26T00:17:42 < Cracki> who wouldn't buy a pint of that 2018-06-26T00:18:50 < Cracki> ah it's a no-noclean kinda deal 2018-06-26T00:21:31 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-26T00:26:18 < Cracki> TIL: https://de.mathworks.com/help/matlab/matlab_prog/what-is-a-live-script-or-function.html 2018-06-26T00:27:45 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-26T00:35:58 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T00:37:15 < Steffanx> Yeah. I was browsing that website lux 2018-06-26T00:37:44 < Steffanx> And it being a dutch webshop is a big plus ofcourse 2018-06-26T00:45:19 < BrainDamage> holy shit, begging for money is stressing 2018-06-26T00:47:04 < tct> give me a 'T' 2018-06-26T00:47:07 < tct> give me a 'C' 2018-06-26T00:47:11 < tct> give me a 'T' 2018-06-26T00:47:15 < tct> TCT \o/ 2018-06-26T00:47:39 < Lux> ordered my quick hot air station there, but got the full pot on digikey before 2018-06-26T00:47:42 < zyp> テクチュ 2018-06-26T00:47:52 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-a3b8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-26T00:48:47 < Lux> and +1 on the gc-10 paste, did a board with qfn chips with it and 0 shorts 2018-06-26T00:56:16 < stvn> Tct 2018-06-26T00:56:27 < tct> pumper <3 2018-06-26T00:56:42 < stvn> Hi sir 2018-06-26T00:56:56 < tct> I gotta go 2018-06-26T00:56:58 < tct> take care, folks o/ 2018-06-26T00:57:00 -!- tct [~tct@adsl-130-227.dsl.init7.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-26T00:57:05 < stvn> Thank 2018-06-26T00:59:01 < zyp> I was driving past the plot where my house is being built the other day to check on the progress, looks like the construction company got some fresh manpower: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/iJI3D.jpg 2018-06-26T00:59:40 < stvn> Lolwtf 2018-06-26T01:01:27 < zyp> :D 2018-06-26T01:02:24 < stvn> Do you think it’ll be done in time? (: 2018-06-26T01:02:33 < zyp> hehe 2018-06-26T01:02:35 < zyp> should be 2018-06-26T01:03:34 < zyp> the outer walls are being made as prefab modules, they're planning to assemble them in the end of august 2018-06-26T01:04:25 < zyp> and apparently they didn't want to have the bare foundation sitting out all summer, so they're not starting on the concrete work until august either 2018-06-26T01:05:07 < stvn> Interesting 2018-06-26T01:05:39 < zyp> they did some ground work a few weeks ago, but now I don't expect much more to happen before august 2018-06-26T01:05:52 < zyp> there's also summer vacation and stuff coming up in the meantime 2018-06-26T01:07:25 < stvn> Vacation sounds good 2018-06-26T01:07:39 < zyp> according to the contract it should be done in the end of january, which should give them plenty of time 2018-06-26T01:09:42 < zyp> suits me fine too, not having to pay until next year nets me a $1200 tax discount this year 2018-06-26T01:12:03 < stvn> Even better 2018-06-26T01:12:40 < stvn> All the kroner 2018-06-26T01:13:30 < stvn> 🦑 2018-06-26T01:21:27 < Laurenceb__> muh gui is working 2018-06-26T01:21:29 < Laurenceb__> sort of... 2018-06-26T01:22:11 < BrainDamage> visual basic gui? 2018-06-26T01:22:39 < Laurenceb__> kek 2018-06-26T01:22:41 < Laurenceb__> Qt 2018-06-26T01:22:49 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/a4fb5c6e93/119030.png 2018-06-26T01:24:24 < Cracki> someone's history class assignment? 2018-06-26T01:24:43 < Laurenceb__> kek 2018-06-26T01:24:48 < Laurenceb__> it doesnt even make sense 2018-06-26T01:25:04 < stvn> Cool 2018-06-26T01:25:16 < Laurenceb__> I like how it has a date 2018-06-26T01:25:48 < Laurenceb__> >you should now that you dont forget your motherland country 2018-06-26T01:25:51 < stvn> 💯 2018-06-26T01:26:11 < stvn> Where’s chris mate 2018-06-26T01:26:17 < Laurenceb__> 0x61F4AF to u too 2018-06-26T01:27:03 < stvn> Cool! 2018-06-26T01:27:53 < Laurenceb__> found stvn https://imgoat.com/uploads/a4fb5c6e93/119031.jpg 2018-06-26T01:28:08 < stvn> Cool 2018-06-26T01:28:27 < Cracki> is that creature hoping for love? 2018-06-26T01:28:39 < stvn> Got any memes mate? 2018-06-26T01:29:40 < stvn> Some type of Rodger Elliot 2018-06-26T01:30:35 < Laurenceb__> i should watch memi tv 2018-06-26T01:30:57 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/a4fb5c6e93/119032.png 2018-06-26T01:31:42 < stvn> Why do they call them meeeems 2018-06-26T01:31:55 < Laurenceb__> cuz muh Richard DORKins 2018-06-26T01:32:11 < stvn> Like Muh heritage? 2018-06-26T01:32:13 < Laurenceb__> the crypto Jordan Peterson 2018-06-26T01:32:42 < stvn> Oh 2018-06-26T01:33:17 < stvn> Does he sell cockchains? 2018-06-26T01:35:21 < Cracki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute 2018-06-26T01:37:28 < johntramp> how would one typically compensate for clock drift between two systems? can the pll or anything be used to fine tune the clock rate? 2018-06-26T01:38:35 < Cracki> twa 2018-06-26T01:38:37 < Cracki> yes 2018-06-26T01:39:39 < Cracki> clock sync on any scale requires a local node to compensate for its deviating local clock source 2018-06-26T01:39:43 < Cracki> see NTP and others 2018-06-26T01:40:22 < Cracki> or you could fuck it all and just deploy GPS-based clock sources 2018-06-26T01:41:21 < Cracki> professional video equipment uses "genlock", it's just a master clock over coax/radio that drives everything down to video line frequencies 2018-06-26T01:41:40 < johntramp> I just want to keep the clocks of two systems between ~1ms of each other, I can get them to sync fine but just want to try compensate for the drift 2018-06-26T01:41:40 < Cracki> (or used to, until people stopped using analog video) 2018-06-26T01:41:46 < Cracki> define systems 2018-06-26T01:41:58 < Cracki> use NTP 2018-06-26T01:42:08 < johntramp> mcu and bluetooth le chip, with an IMU 2018-06-26T01:42:32 < Cracki> oh dear 2018-06-26T01:42:36 < Cracki> just make one the master 2018-06-26T01:42:44 < Cracki> and distribute pulse-per-second 2018-06-26T01:43:31 < Cracki> does the BLE chip have external clock inputs? 2018-06-26T01:43:54 < Cracki> describe your situation A LOT MORE 2018-06-26T01:44:04 < Cracki> what's connected to what 2018-06-26T01:44:13 < Cracki> and why 2018-06-26T01:45:45 < johntramp> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb7dywvItZM I want to measure how synchronised a pair of trampolinists are 2018-06-26T01:46:47 < Cracki> and you worry about clock drift? 2018-06-26T01:46:50 < Cracki> over what time span? 2018-06-26T01:47:00 < Laurenceb__> ouch 2018-06-26T01:47:05 < Laurenceb__> sounds similar to muh gui 2018-06-26T01:47:12 < johntramp> so an imu on each trampoline measuring activity, talking bluetooth to a phone / tablet, but I need the two systems to have a common reference 2018-06-26T01:47:13 < Cracki> sounds like overengineering 2018-06-26T01:47:15 < Laurenceb__> I use usb frame number 2018-06-26T01:47:25 < Laurenceb__> to sync all the shit thats plugged in 2018-06-26T01:47:56 < Cracki> well give them a common reference then 2018-06-26T01:48:11 < Cracki> clocks won't drift by any noticeable amount 2018-06-26T01:48:15 < johntramp> yes, I don't want to run a cable though 2018-06-26T01:48:16 < Cracki> initial sync is good enough 2018-06-26T01:48:23 < Cracki> you have radio links already 2018-06-26T01:48:28 < Cracki> do you not like them? 2018-06-26T01:48:45 < johntramp> yes they are drifting by ~1ms in 10 seconds 2018-06-26T01:48:53 < Cracki> shit quartzes 2018-06-26T01:49:14 < johntramp> so you think that is worse than what I should expect 2018-06-26T01:49:26 < Cracki> use better quartzes 2018-06-26T01:49:26 < BrainDamage> those would be absurdely shit quartzes 2018-06-26T01:49:39 < BrainDamage> even a crappy quartz should get you 20 ppm or os 2018-06-26T01:49:40 < BrainDamage> so 2018-06-26T01:49:51 < johntramp> yeah this is about 100ppm 2018-06-26T01:49:55 < Cracki> you prolly don't use any you're aware of. sounds like shit "last resort" oscillators 2018-06-26T01:50:32 < Cracki> MCUs have those. an atmega can run off an internal oscillator that's uncalibrated and useless for any sensible time keeping 2018-06-26T01:50:40 < Cracki> anyway 2018-06-26T01:50:50 < Cracki> figure out if you can calibrate your clock rates 2018-06-26T01:51:02 < Cracki> they're in the same environment, so they should drift the same 2018-06-26T01:51:21 < Cracki> what even is your hardware? 2018-06-26T01:51:34 < Cracki> some chinese "modules"? 2018-06-26T01:51:44 < Cracki> you need to do some engineering here 2018-06-26T01:51:50 < Cracki> and you need to talk more than I do 2018-06-26T01:51:58 < johntramp> https://www.silabs.com/products/wireless/bluetooth/bluetooth-low-energy-modules/bgm113-bluetooth-low-energy-module 2018-06-26T01:52:23 < Cracki> that thing is low-power, not good-clock 2018-06-26T01:52:55 < johntramp> ah right 2018-06-26T01:53:37 < Cracki> so what you need to do is either calibrate the clocks, or do something at "runtime" 2018-06-26T01:53:38 < johntramp> ah that makes sense, there is another timer which is only able to be used in a high-energy mode 2018-06-26T01:53:46 < Cracki> *facepalm* 2018-06-26T01:53:50 < Cracki> you used the low power timer? 2018-06-26T01:54:21 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-26T01:54:27 < Cracki> you can hook a big fat battery to each IMU box 2018-06-26T01:54:57 < johntramp> yeah, well because the ble stack uses the low power modes 2018-06-26T01:56:00 < johntramp> i didn't realise a low power timer implied it had more drift 2018-06-26T01:56:10 < johntramp> i just thought it was a lower hz 2018-06-26T01:56:46 < Cracki> it's all-around worse 2018-06-26T01:57:00 < johntramp> ok - that's good to know :) 2018-06-26T01:57:02 < Cracki> at least not better 2018-06-26T01:57:36 < johntramp> yeah I thought the ppm was directly a result of the xtal source used 2018-06-26T01:58:22 < Cracki> it more or less is 2018-06-26T01:59:41 < johntramp> hmm ok, so the datasheet shows lfxo at 100ppm and hfxo at 40ppm 2018-06-26T01:59:51 < johntramp> even 40ppm is pretty shit 2018-06-26T02:00:02 < Cracki> see, 60% improvement by reading the data shiet 2018-06-26T02:00:31 < Cracki> or a factor of 2.5, depending on how your head is angled 2018-06-26T02:01:01 < Cracki> 40 ppm is 24ms over 10min 2018-06-26T02:01:20 < Cracki> do you need this shit emitting data in realtime? 2018-06-26T02:01:27 < johntramp> yeah close to it 2018-06-26T02:01:48 < Cracki> if not, you can assume isochronous clocks, record the stuff, physically hit both boxes at the same time at the beginning and end, and resample based on that 2018-06-26T02:02:06 < Cracki> screw this, just calibrate the clocks 2018-06-26T02:02:15 < Cracki> it's a device-specific value. 2018-06-26T02:02:37 < Cracki> then see how they drift 2018-06-26T02:03:00 < Cracki> as I said, they're twins in a shared environment, they'll drift the same 2018-06-26T02:03:08 < johntramp> yeah so pretty much back to my original question , that is done somewhere in the pll circuit? 2018-06-26T02:03:11 < Cracki> you just need to compensate for the imperfect rate 2018-06-26T02:03:16 < Cracki> wat 2018-06-26T02:03:43 < Cracki> no you just bang these things together, let them sit for an hour, bang them again, and compare time deltas 2018-06-26T02:04:06 < Cracki> then you take one for "truth" and multiply the other by a correction factor 2018-06-26T02:05:14 < Cracki> that MCU has an FPU, so floating point calc doesn't even cost much 2018-06-26T02:05:28 < johntramp> yeah i see, so don't actually try make the clock rates match 2018-06-26T02:05:51 < Cracki> if the thing lets you fuck with its oscillator to a degree where you can trim it by ppm, it WILL be mentioned in the data shiet 2018-06-26T02:06:11 < Cracki> right. you just correct the timestamps 2018-06-26T02:06:23 < Cracki> that's the simplest solution I see right now 2018-06-26T02:07:34 < Cracki> if BLE could give you timing information on the order of whatever the xtal runs at, you maybe could do some PLL shit 2018-06-26T02:08:07 < Cracki> if you want perfection, find or make a radio frequency you take as "genlock" 2018-06-26T02:09:12 < Cracki> *if* you can affect and fine-tune the MCU's clock source, you'll find that in the data shiet 2018-06-26T02:09:21 < johntramp> i have them sending a packet from one to other, and then an IRQ triggered on each for the link layer RX/TX activity which they both take a timestamp at, then master shares the timestamp for the slave to correct 2018-06-26T02:10:04 < Cracki> you know... if you did that every second, you could nudge whatever systick you have running by single increments 2018-06-26T02:10:28 < Cracki> I'd really recommend trying the calibration first 2018-06-26T02:10:38 < johntramp> yes that is pretty much what I have at the moment , except I want them to be able to talk to a phone rather than each other 2018-06-26T02:10:55 < johntramp> maybe I should look at whether the bluetooth can keep multiple connections open 2018-06-26T02:11:03 < Cracki> so the phone has to give a beat 2018-06-26T02:11:46 < johntramp> im not sure if that's possible 2018-06-26T02:11:59 < Cracki> then do the offline calib 2018-06-26T02:12:04 < Cracki> it's no effort 2018-06-26T02:12:10 < johntramp> yeah I will go with that 2018-06-26T02:12:25 < Cracki> just run the damn things for an hour, impose two common events in the data, and compare timestamps 2018-06-26T02:12:41 < Cracki> more if you're curious about drift 2018-06-26T02:12:53 < Cracki> you can be smart and store the data as a wav file 2018-06-26T02:12:58 < Cracki> then view it in some audio editor 2018-06-26T02:13:23 < Cracki> or use whatever software you have that lets you browse time series data graphically 2018-06-26T02:15:09 < johntramp> well I can measure the drift easily enough by doing a sync over ble,matching their counters, and an hour later doing it again 2018-06-26T02:15:19 < Cracki> yes 2018-06-26T02:15:35 < johntramp> would you expect the drift to be pretty much constant from one day to the next 2018-06-26T02:16:41 < Cracki> I would expect them to drift the same, so it cancels out 2018-06-26T02:16:55 < Cracki> they might both run ahead or behind depending on the alignment of the planets 2018-06-26T02:17:07 < Cracki> it's all probably linear 2018-06-26T02:17:12 < johntramp> ok that makes it easier 2018-06-26T02:17:29 < Cracki> at least, a linear approximation gets you far in life 2018-06-26T02:18:33 < johntramp> when I detect there has been no activity for ~10 seconds or whatever I can have them resync too 2018-06-26T02:19:10 < Cracki> determine the jitter in your sync 2018-06-26T02:19:17 < johntramp> yes 2018-06-26T02:19:37 < Cracki> if it's more than a millisecond, you might wanna just slightly nudge the clocks back and forth 2018-06-26T02:19:53 < Cracki> rather than a full jerk to what the BLE master wants 2018-06-26T02:20:24 < johntramp> it is in the order of 100uS 2018-06-26T02:20:28 < johntramp> or less 2018-06-26T02:21:58 < Cracki> one less thing to 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stvn> hello 2018-06-26T10:17:47 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T10:20:05 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-243.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-26T10:32:46 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-26T10:33:02 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T10:43:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-26T10:44:02 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T11:09:37 < Thorn> lpc824 crashes on innocuous RAM read right after startup (90% of the time) :/ 2018-06-26T11:13:28 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T11:14:40 < PaulFertser> Probably it's about time to make a version of https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/armv7m-vecstate-zippe.gdb for ARMv6-M ? 2018-06-26T11:15:26 < PaulFertser> Or does keil fully decode all exception states on its own? 2018-06-26T11:17:09 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-26T11:19:42 < Thorn> PaulFertser: iirc cortex-m0 simply doesn't have any fault state registers. (m0+ does have some) 2018-06-26T11:33:16 < tpw_rules> does the cortex m0 come with any cache? 2018-06-26T11:33:38 < tpw_rules> like if the flash wait state is 3, is it min 3 cycles per instruction? 2018-06-26T11:40:25 < Thorn> I don't think any m0 mcus have any cache 2018-06-26T11:40:44 * qyx buys rpi zero w 2018-06-26T11:42:57 < tpw_rules> so is my statement true then? 2018-06-26T11:44:37 < Thorn> well arm-v6m is thumb so instructions are 2 bytes long and flash bus is 32 bits wide 2018-06-26T11:44:55 < Thorn> so the cpu will probably fetch 2 at a time 2018-06-26T11:56:07 < zyp> there's no cache, but it's still pipelined 2018-06-26T11:56:44 < zyp> and the M0 is von-neumann so it'll have to interleave instruction fetches and data accesses on the same bus anyway 2018-06-26T12:02:41 < zyp> heh, apparently armv8m drops support for bitbanded memory 2018-06-26T12:03:01 < zyp> guess they figured out nobody is using it anyway 2018-06-26T12:05:32 < Thorn> suddenly nxp has online cube https://mcuxpresso.nxp.com/en/clock 2018-06-26T12:05:37 < Thorn> with clock and pin diagrams 2018-06-26T12:06:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T12:06:30 < Laurenceb__> https://imgoat.com/uploads/a4fb5c6e93/119109.png 2018-06-26T12:06:43 < Cracki> good morning to you too 2018-06-26T12:06:51 < Cracki> almost-hoverhand 2018-06-26T12:07:10 < Cracki> they look like believers 2018-06-26T12:07:27 < Laurenceb__> dat colon 2018-06-26T12:07:38 < Laurenceb__> but she looks too old to be a child 2018-06-26T12:08:08 < Cracki> she collects them, he sells them 2018-06-26T12:08:09 < Thorn> looks like the lpc824 startup code that I found somewhere on github may be overclocking it by 2x 2018-06-26T12:08:19 < Cracki> lpc overclocking? 2018-06-26T12:08:59 < Thorn> that might be the cause of my hard faults 2018-06-26T12:09:06 < Cracki> why do people use this LPC cancer 2018-06-26T12:09:35 < Laurenceb__> its troll da po-lice day https://imgoat.com/uploads/a4fb5c6e93/119110.png 2018-06-26T12:09:36 < Cracki> aren't those the beasts with code in rom you're supposed to call to poke the system? 2018-06-26T12:09:48 < Thorn> if lpc is cancer then what is stm32 2018-06-26T12:10:00 < Thorn> flesh eating disease? 2018-06-26T12:10:06 < Cracki> absolute unit. dey see him rollin 2018-06-26T12:10:51 < Cracki> that oinker needs to wash his party vest 2018-06-26T12:11:06 < Laurenceb__> kek 2018-06-26T12:23:23 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2018-06-26T12:28:52 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-26T12:29:56 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T12:29:56 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@new.hellomouse.net] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-26T12:29:56 -!- dan2wik [dan2wik@unaffiliated/dan2wik] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T12:40:27 < Steffanx> Thorn: that tool is useless. Only a few mcus are supported. 2018-06-26T12:40:47 < Steffanx> Mainly kinetis and a few lpcs 2018-06-26T12:47:51 < karlp> PaulFertser: PRs welcome, I don't work on cortex-shit 2018-06-26T12:47:56 < karlp> I only work on cortex-cool 2018-06-26T12:53:16 < stvn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqDRA60AgNs 2018-06-26T12:59:42 -!- MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T13:00:12 < jpa-> i seem to always work on cortex-cool-shit, where the cool part is the cpu and the shit part is the software 2018-06-26T13:00:52 < zyp> haha 2018-06-26T13:00:56 < Steffanx> Why you write shitty software? 2018-06-26T13:03:15 < stvn> jmm 2018-06-26T13:06:19 < stvn> that's not nice steffan 2018-06-26T13:06:52 < jpa-> i don't know exactly why, but the reason must be either the tools, the language or the customer demands 2018-06-26T13:08:22 < Steffanx> Issue #1: use keil; Issue #2: C(?!); Issue #3: idk because customers. 2018-06-26T13:14:25 < stvn> stop trolling steffan 2018-06-26T13:15:37 < Steffanx> Im sorry stvn. 2018-06-26T13:15:44 < Steffanx> And jpa 2018-06-26T13:15:48 < Steffanx> And ##stm32 2018-06-26T13:16:58 < stvn> lol u 2018-06-26T13:17:21 < stvn> probably more pumping than trolling now that I think about it..... 2018-06-26T13:24:38 < jpa-> Steffanx: will you move to finland after that stackexchange guy succeeds in flooding netherlands? 2018-06-26T13:25:24 < Steffanx> Im not sure. Is finland safe when you're able to flood the entire dutch land? 2018-06-26T13:29:00 < stvn> Steffanx: the train crashed into a car ahead 2018-06-26T13:29:05 < stvn> so i caught an ubere 2018-06-26T13:45:52 -!- inf^ is now known as inf 2018-06-26T13:46:33 < jpa-> Steffanx: finland is always safe 2018-06-26T13:53:15 < stvn> that's good to know 2018-06-26T13:54:37 < stvn> you can also go and visit zyp 2018-06-26T13:56:46 < jpa-> norway is not safe, they're high on cod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2CKHH_KKGE 2018-06-26T13:59:03 < stvn> they look insane 2018-06-26T14:00:25 < jpa-> they'll be fine after a few days without fish 2018-06-26T14:00:45 * karlp giggles 2018-06-26T14:02:41 < karlp> didyou not have a 200nok note beofre? 2018-06-26T14:03:27 < karlp> looks like they'v ebeen insane on that for a while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6rJKbuZfSA 2018-06-26T14:12:03 < stvn> lolwtf 2018-06-26T14:12:30 < kakimir> I had 500eur bill once 2018-06-26T14:12:36 < kakimir> bank note 2018-06-26T14:12:46 < kakimir> whatever it's called 2018-06-26T14:26:35 < stvn> okay 2018-06-26T14:27:00 < stvn> what's new kakimir ? 2018-06-26T14:28:37 < kakimir> nothing much 2018-06-26T14:32:58 < Steffanx> Dear jpa- wtf does "cod" mean? 2018-06-26T14:34:34 < Steffanx> I cant watch the vid. 2018-06-26T14:35:21 < karlp> it means cod. 2018-06-26T14:35:33 < karlp> gaddus gaddus 2018-06-26T14:35:57 < Steffanx> Oh its a fish. 2018-06-26T14:36:00 < karlp> gadus morhua sorry. 2018-06-26T14:36:29 < Steffanx> Stvn used that word too and refused to tell me what it meant. So i was confused to see mr jpa use it too 2018-06-26T14:36:45 < Steffanx> I got pumped 2018-06-26T14:36:47 < stvn> lol 2018-06-26T14:37:03 < stvn> i've completely destroyed your world just for a few hours 2018-06-26T14:37:34 < Steffanx> Im not into english fish names 2018-06-26T14:38:04 < stvn> indeed 2018-06-26T14:38:20 < stvn> what crazy things do dutch people do? 2018-06-26T14:38:35 < karlp> Kabeljauw 2018-06-26T14:38:46 < Steffanx> Yes, google told me. Tu 2018-06-26T14:38:48 < day> cod clearly means call of duty 2018-06-26T14:38:49 < karlp> cable jaw? 2018-06-26T14:39:02 < karlp> from it's beard I presume 2018-06-26T14:39:09 < Steffanx> "jauw" is not a world on its own i think 2018-06-26T14:39:16 < Steffanx> Word* 2018-06-26T14:41:55 < Steffanx> I agree, day 2018-06-26T14:57:49 < jadew> someone said my nickname? 2018-06-26T14:58:15 < jadew> mIRC almost flashed... 2018-06-26T14:59:01 < karlp> almost flashed? 2018-06-26T14:59:36 < BrainDamage> it's slang when someone shows you their naked body 2018-06-26T15:00:17 < jadew> hah, it's crazy how common flashers are 2018-06-26T15:00:23 < jadew> they're never women tho... 2018-06-26T15:00:48 < jadew> I saw one once 2018-06-26T15:02:36 < jadew> I mean... it's a rather common urge for some reason and seems to appear in all cultures (this happened before the internet was a big thing) 2018-06-26T15:02:53 < jadew> so the flasher wouldn't have gotten the idea from Japan 2018-06-26T15:03:33 * jadew just finished writing some code 2018-06-26T15:04:07 < jadew> that's why so chatty - haven't been too social in the past 2 weeks 2018-06-26T15:09:06 < stvn> yeah irc is the perfect place to revive your social 2018-06-26T15:09:18 < jpa-> by talking about flashing men 2018-06-26T15:09:29 < jadew> this is all the social I have 2018-06-26T15:10:29 < jadew> I know people too, but they never call 2018-06-26T15:10:53 < stvn> fwocwtws 2018-06-26T15:11:07 < stvn> friends who only call when they want something 2018-06-26T15:11:12 < jadew> yes, those 2018-06-26T15:11:15 < jadew> they do that 2018-06-26T15:11:25 < jadew> my parents too 2018-06-26T15:12:00 < jadew> can't complain tho, they're bothering me when they do 2018-06-26T15:12:13 < jadew> I suspect they've picked up on that 2018-06-26T15:14:13 -!- BrainDam1 [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T15:14:37 -!- BrainDam1 [~BrainDama@unaffiliated/braindamage] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-26T15:23:41 -!- dekar 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one SIP server so I kind of miss out on that fun 2018-06-26T17:05:21 < aandrew> that sip server though.. holy fuck it's under constant attack 2018-06-26T17:06:31 < aandrew> I've got about a dozen IPs banned right now through fail2ban 2018-06-26T17:06:41 < aandrew> I get a lot of ssh attempts too which is funny since I don't have password login enabled at all 2018-06-26T17:06:52 < karlp> Thorn: shoudla used stm32? 2018-06-26T17:08:54 < Thorn> also the 1st reading from bme280 is wrong when starting with 0.7V 2018-06-26T17:09:32 < Thorn> so I'm not sure if using stm32 would fix all my problems karlp 2018-06-26T17:12:33 < qyx> thats because of i2c 2018-06-26T17:13:20 < kakimir> aandrew: they always try 2018-06-26T17:13:31 < kakimir> root and some common password 2018-06-26T17:13:49 < kakimir> idk if they nowdays try pi and such 2018-06-26T17:14:12 < kakimir> I should setup some key thing for my box 2018-06-26T17:17:00 < aandrew> yep 2018-06-26T17:17:27 < aandrew> I have fail2ban killing 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in lpc world but how does it work in stm32 world? 2018-06-26T17:50:54 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 --- Log closed Tue Jun 26 17:59:46 2018 --- Log opened Tue Jun 26 18:07:04 2018 2018-06-26T18:07:04 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T18:07:04 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 146 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 145 normal] 2018-06-26T18:07:11 < ingrix> I'm looking into using the TC58 line, if that makes a difference 2018-06-26T18:08:17 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 79 secs 2018-06-26T18:09:00 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-26T18:09:49 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T18:09:53 < karlp> is it not just going to be regular cfi? why does it need to be toshiba? 2018-06-26T18:11:17 < ingrix> I'm not super familiar with working with flash memory atm, so it may be a cfi 2018-06-26T18:12:36 < ingrix> 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There is an often used value, but it all depends on your needs/application/whatever veverak 2018-06-26T21:38:35 < veverak> have two stm32 (l4/f03) communicationg over i2c 2018-06-26T21:38:35 < emeryth> every datasheet for an i2c device explains this in detail 2018-06-26T21:38:35 < veverak> does not work as well as I would want to 2018-06-26T21:38:35 < veverak> and only internall pullups are used on the i2c lines... 2018-06-26T21:39:08 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 330 secs 2018-06-26T21:40:03 < emeryth> when I tried i2c on internal pullups I couldn't get full speed --- Log closed Tue Jun 26 21:45:43 2018 --- Log opened Tue Jun 26 21:45:50 2018 2018-06-26T21:45:50 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T21:45:50 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 142 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 141 normal] 2018-06-26T21:50:13 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T21:50:14 < veverak> I don't have scope right one 2018-06-26T21:50:14 < veverak> *now 2018-06-26T21:50:14 < veverak> however, I spotted the bad heavior 2018-06-26T21:50:19 < veverak> I set 4 register over the i2c in a row, with a second delay between a batch 2018-06-26T21:51:10 < veverak> 13183 -> 176...13286 -> 179 | master wrote to UART time at which the write was issued and what register was written 2018-06-26T21:51:12 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 327 secs 2018-06-26T21:52:14 < veverak> 43505 -> 178, 44558 -> 179 | this is what I see on the slave (same idea, written when the 'write' wass taken out of input buffer) 2018-06-26T21:54:41 < veverak> and of course slave reports: 44593 -> 176 | next batch started 2018-06-26T21:55:07 < veverak> so, the last register written to slave is actually received from the buffer before new batch is issued :/ 2018-06-26T21:57:14 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T21:58:22 < veverak> and I do not have a single 10k resistor here, damn it 2018-06-26T22:03:16 -!- sferrini [sid115350@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-schkrcywsucvbmmk] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T22:14:04 < qyx> wto stm32 communicating over i2c <- theres the problem 2018-06-26T22:14:37 < veverak> wto? 2018-06-26T22:15:32 < qyx> *two 2018-06-26T22:17:43 < veverak> ah, almost there :0 2018-06-26T22:17:46 < veverak> :) 2018-06-26T22:18:06 < veverak> P.S: devised a complex and efficient solution to this problem -> I send the last register in the batch twice, the thing does not have a problem with that 2018-06-26T22:18:17 < veverak> well, that fixes it for tday, have to find pullup tomorrow 2018-06-26T22:37:17 -!- Getty [getty@stardestroyer.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-26T22:37:22 -!- bvernoux1 is now known as bvernoux 2018-06-26T22:39:31 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-daebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T22:39:35 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-26T22:40:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-daebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-26T22:41:55 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T22:47:02 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-26T22:51:34 -!- Getty [getty@stardestroyer.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T22:53:52 -!- Getty [getty@stardestroyer.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-26T22:53:54 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-26T22:54:05 < Steffanx> awh karlp 2018-06-26T22:56:59 < kakimir> hello Steffpump 2018-06-26T22:57:14 < aandrew> yay fucking altium 2018-06-26T22:57:32 < aandrew> place a blanket, it twists the lines, pops up "can't intersect itself" then spins allocating memory. lost my last hr of work 2018-06-26T22:57:35 < aandrew> motherfuck 2018-06-26T22:57:42 < kakimir> got tlv493 codes + i2c working today 2018-06-26T22:57:49 < kakimir> error handling and all the shit 2018-06-26T22:57:53 < aandrew> what's a tlv493 2018-06-26T22:57:56 < kakimir> acsii formating 2018-06-26T22:58:03 < kakimir> of data and errors too 2018-06-26T22:58:10 < kakimir> tlv493d 2018-06-26T22:58:15 < kakimir> check it out 2018-06-26T22:58:28 < Steffanx> dont you auto save aandrew? 2018-06-26T22:58:33 < aandrew> I've never had recovery work 2018-06-26T22:58:34 < kakimir> your potential potentiometer replacement 2018-06-26T22:59:08 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elwsgtbszejsemdo] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T22:59:34 < aandrew> holy fuck 2018-06-26T22:59:35 < aandrew> that did work 2018-06-26T22:59:39 < aandrew> thank the fuck 2018-06-26T22:59:56 < aandrew> 3d mag 2018-06-26T23:00:07 < aandrew> interesting 2018-06-26T23:00:17 < aandrew> what are you doing for cal 2018-06-26T23:00:43 < srk> pretty cheap for 3d 2018-06-26T23:01:11 < srk> do they have 1d as well? 2018-06-26T23:01:55 < kakimir> idk 2018-06-26T23:02:00 < kakimir> but that is like cheap 2018-06-26T23:02:08 < srk> yeah 2018-06-26T23:02:16 < kakimir> I'm not yet sure how to use it as potentiometer 2018-06-26T23:02:27 < kakimir> maybe do some math for x and y 2018-06-26T23:05:15 < srk> I'm just gonna buy some cheap rotary and linear ones 2018-06-26T23:08:01 < kakimir> isn't 1D hall just 2018-06-26T23:08:04 < kakimir> linear hall 2018-06-26T23:08:07 < kakimir> ratiometric 2018-06-26T23:08:12 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T23:08:17 < kakimir> rotary is like 2d 2018-06-26T23:08:23 < kakimir> x and y 2018-06-26T23:08:35 < kakimir> I don't need z but it kinda 2018-06-26T23:08:39 < kakimir> comes with the packahe 2018-06-26T23:08:52 < kakimir> find linear hall digital 2018-06-26T23:09:07 < kakimir> if you wish not to use adc 2018-06-26T23:09:12 < srk> like you have linear x and y but need rotary z :) 2018-06-26T23:09:54 < srk> I have some AS5047 but they're like $6 2018-06-26T23:10:24 < kakimir> linear x and y are rotary z 2018-06-26T23:10:39 < kakimir> I don't even know I'm just testing it how it works 2018-06-26T23:10:39 < srk> yeah 2018-06-26T23:11:41 < kakimir> there are ones that are direct potentiometer substitute kind of thing 2018-06-26T23:11:46 < kakimir> read value and thats it 2018-06-26T23:11:58 < kakimir> no maths I think 2018-06-26T23:12:04 < srk> TLV493D-A1B6 provides contactless position sensing to applications currently using potentiometers or optical solutions. 2018-06-26T23:12:25 < srk> hmm 2018-06-26T23:12:27 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.25.31.34] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T23:12:27 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@188.25.31.34] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-26T23:12:27 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T23:12:29 < kakimir> I have some mellix or whatever chip it is in my collection 2018-06-26T23:12:46 < kakimir> what was that mlx brand name 2018-06-26T23:13:29 < srk> I need tons of pots for modular synth and bunch of them would just be hooked to MCUs ADC 2018-06-26T23:13:42 < srk> so this might be handy 2018-06-26T23:19:32 < kakimir> mechanics are the hard part 2018-06-26T23:19:43 < kakimir> but for good pots you pay 5eur each 2018-06-26T23:19:53 < kakimir> and those are only so good 2018-06-26T23:20:30 < kakimir> apparently company name is metallux 2018-06-26T23:20:52 < kakimir> or not 2018-06-26T23:21:08 < kakimir> melexis! 2018-06-26T23:23:40 < kakimir> mlx90316 2018-06-26T23:23:56 < kakimir> I would probs use that for more accurate stuffs 2018-06-26T23:24:04 < kakimir> but it's expensives 2018-06-26T23:24:42 < srk> cool 2018-06-26T23:25:47 < kakimir> kind of stuff where I wouldn't care about price, size, coding related stuff 2018-06-26T23:27:21 < jadew> is this autism like the comments suggest? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv1aczlrMsk 2018-06-26T23:28:18 < Steffanx> Idk, idc. 2018-06-26T23:28:19 < kakimir> super funny 2018-06-26T23:28:49 < kakimir> I would love to have seat right next to him 2018-06-26T23:29:15 < jadew> I don't think it would have mattered where you sat 2018-06-26T23:29:27 < kakimir> yeah 2018-06-26T23:29:38 < kakimir> tin can traveling is crappy anyways 2018-06-26T23:30:10 < kakimir> I'm more comfortable sitting in glider 2018-06-26T23:30:16 < kakimir> no joking 2018-06-26T23:31:10 < jadew> I'm not even sure what autism is 2018-06-26T23:31:32 < Steffanx> Try wikipedia 2018-06-26T23:31:55 < kakimir> right when I sit to airliner seat I think like "I'm so not gonna like this" 2018-06-26T23:31:56 < jadew> it's a very loose description 2018-06-26T23:33:54 < jadew> if you read the wiki page, it seems like a very messy description 2018-06-26T23:34:52 < jadew> like a blanket term for a wide variety of affections, because it lists all sorts of triggers, but no actual cause 2018-06-26T23:35:08 < kakimir> lack of social skills, apparent bluntness in social situation, unability to sense fine tones in communications, sarcasm etc., narrow field of intrests, trains and machines, want's logic and order to things and is attracted to things that have logic and order 2018-06-26T23:35:11 < jadew> "Autism is caused by a combination of genetic and environmental factors.[4] Risk factors include certain infections during pregnancy, such as rubella, as well as valproic acid, alcohol or cocaine use during pregnancy." 2018-06-26T23:35:19 < jadew> that's saying nothing 2018-06-26T23:35:56 < vampi-the-frog> and getting bitten by a vampire, add that to the list 2018-06-26T23:36:08 < jadew> kakimir, that also sounds like nothing 2018-06-26T23:36:22 < jadew> that could describe both a stupid and a smart kid 2018-06-26T23:36:26 < Steffanx> And then turn into a frog, vampi? 2018-06-26T23:36:31 < kakimir> jadew: exactly 2018-06-26T23:36:34 < vampi-the-frog> autistic frogs 2018-06-26T23:37:03 < jadew> are we sure it's not a bullshit disease? 2018-06-26T23:37:16 < Steffanx> Are you sure i care? :p 2018-06-26T23:37:22 < jadew> I don't think we had it in Romania until the recent years 2018-06-26T23:37:33 < kakimir> vaccines 2018-06-26T23:37:43 < jadew> Steffanx, well yeah, because I keep hearing "autist" but don't understand what the fuck it means 2018-06-26T23:37:44 < kakimir> has reached your country finally 2018-06-26T23:38:27 < jadew> "Diagnosis is based on behavior, not cause or mechanism." - this is the biggest red flag 2018-06-26T23:38:31 < kakimir> jadew: there is lot of memetics and bullshit around autism 2018-06-26T23:38:50 < kakimir> I went to autism meeting once 2018-06-26T23:39:13 < jadew> so it's basically a word for a set of behaviours? 2018-06-26T23:39:33 < kakimir> well - they were just nerds but no any apparent autism 2018-06-26T23:39:57 < BrainDamage> did you manage to impress them with your better autism skills? 2018-06-26T23:39:58 < kakimir> decided that autism wasn't for me 2018-06-26T23:39:58 < Steffanx> And you base that on a single meeting? 2018-06-26T23:40:30 < jadew> haha 2018-06-26T23:40:46 < Steffanx> Im still not convinced kakimir :P 2018-06-26T23:40:51 < kakimir> BrainDamage: I tried but I just made fool of myself 2018-06-26T23:40:59 < Steffanx> I base that on years of experience in##stm32 2018-06-26T23:41:30 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-26T23:41:43 < Steffanx> How do you explain your SMA obsession kakimir ? 2018-06-26T23:41:55 < Steffanx> Fetish? 2018-06-26T23:42:13 < kakimir> are you giving me irc diagnosis dr. Steff? 2018-06-26T23:42:18 < Steffanx> or just kakimeme? 2018-06-26T23:42:19 < BrainDamage> to be pedant, it would be a kink 2018-06-26T23:42:37 < BrainDamage> unless his sexy plays NEED to involve smas, or it's a no-go for him 2018-06-26T23:43:31 < Steffanx> Yes kakimir. But you and me shared this channel for years, kakimir 2018-06-26T23:43:40 < Steffanx> Too bad i dont remember your first nick 2018-06-26T23:43:43 < BrainDamage> mor than just a channel? 2018-06-26T23:43:54 < BrainDamage> or is it 'this' an intimate channel? 2018-06-26T23:44:03 < Steffanx> Yes. Ive never been as close to kakimir as ive been to you 2018-06-26T23:44:24 < BrainDamage> you've been closer to tectu 2018-06-26T23:44:33 < BrainDamage> and for longer 2018-06-26T23:44:52 < kakimir> there is irc diagrams that say who is close to who 2018-06-26T23:45:26 < Steffanx> I dont remember BrainDamage 2018-06-26T23:45:48 < BrainDamage> so he drugged you first? 2018-06-26T23:46:13 < kakimir> I'm having active 2 direction communication with Steffanx, englishman, zyp, jadew and dongs iirc. 2018-06-26T23:46:42 < kakimir> and I share most common keywords with dongs 2018-06-26T23:46:55 < kakimir> and I have 1 direction communitation with Laurenceb 2018-06-26T23:47:15 < jadew> is there really a chart? 2018-06-26T23:47:40 < jadew> I want to see it 2018-06-26T23:48:13 < BrainDamage> Ofc, if you'd understand the need for rationalization if you were autistic 2018-06-26T23:48:40 < kakimir> where is it? 2018-06-26T23:48:44 < BrainDamage> or if you were the owner of a social network platform that tries to exploit human behaviour, which arguably would fall under that cathegory as well 2018-06-26T23:49:52 < qyx> https://privatebin.net/?538febfaafb350da#RzMM4LYQHLjLKQsQQ/1qApEZ2vz2TSr2LvBDGT1ih/c= 2018-06-26T23:49:58 < qyx> on an F0 2018-06-26T23:50:15 < qyx> reading from a I2C fuel gauge 2018-06-26T23:51:02 < qyx> "bad value" means a garbage is read from the I2C slave, "interrupt" means a I2C timeout interrupt was fired 2018-06-26T23:51:36 < qyx> "reset" means that the master was reset by the watchdog because it was stuck somewhere in the I2C code 2018-06-26T23:51:52 < qyx> and now, I don't quite understand I2C_ISR=0x00008065 2018-06-26T23:52:36 < qyx> which is the ISR value just before resets 2018-06-26T23:53:51 < qyx> RM says it is BUSY | TC | STOPF | ADDR | TXE 2018-06-26T23:54:08 < qyx> why the hell is ADDR set to 1 2018-06-26T23:54:47 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Day changed Wed Jun 27 2018 2018-06-27T00:02:21 < kakimir> where is the irc diagram? 2018-06-27T00:02:41 < kakimir> I'm obsessed to see it 2018-06-27T00:03:25 < aandrew> jadew: my wife says things like that too 2018-06-27T00:03:40 < aandrew> no obese people in .ro until after the revolution, very little cancer, etc. 2018-06-27T00:03:48 < aandrew> what's wront with SMA? 2018-06-27T00:04:22 < jadew> aandrew, well, the obesity thing has a reason, people didn't have a lot of food back then 2018-06-27T00:04:32 < jadew> it wasn't by choice 2018-06-27T00:04:52 < aandrew> not a lot of food but also very little access to processed foods or large amounts of sugar 2018-06-27T00:05:00 < aandrew> I don't entirely believe her 2018-06-27T00:05:05 < ingrix> Cracki: quite a bit after the fact, but the part is a Toshiba TC58NVG0S3HTAI0 2018-06-27T00:05:12 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-27T00:06:12 < kakimir> aandrew: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2GcdpJiNGfKdUtOa0tXd0J1ekE/view?usp=sharing this channel went mad about this shit 2018-06-27T00:06:28 < kakimir> especially those 3d renderings with all SMAs populated 2018-06-27T00:07:25 < jadew> cuz why use a row of headers, right? 2018-06-27T00:07:35 < aandrew> haha yeah that' excessive, but it looks like you're breaking out everything 2018-06-27T00:08:11 < aandrew> are all those SMAs for high speed/analog signals or something? 2018-06-27T00:08:36 < jadew> aandrew, that's the kicker, none is 2018-06-27T00:08:45 < aandrew> srs? 2018-06-27T00:09:06 < aandrew> I broke out some of my timing signals to MCX 2018-06-27T00:09:36 < aandrew> https://imgur.com/Hf0QbkX 2018-06-27T00:10:12 < jadew> what PCB holder do you have there? 2018-06-27T00:10:18 < aandrew> oh 2018-06-27T00:10:20 < aandrew> those are fucking amaze 2018-06-27T00:10:22 < aandrew> pcbite 2018-06-27T00:10:34 < aandrew> I also have the probe holders but haven't used 'em yet 2018-06-27T00:10:38 < aandrew> got those about 2mos ago 2018-06-27T00:10:44 < jadew> looks interesting 2018-06-27T00:10:49 < aandrew> saw them a long time ago but never pulled the trigger 2018-06-27T00:10:56 < aandrew> the work REALLY nicely especially on my metal desk 2018-06-27T00:11:06 < jadew> so it's just a heavy base with a cut? 2018-06-27T00:11:19 < jadew> they're magnetic? 2018-06-27T00:11:36 < aandrew> they are magnetic yes, and the middle section is spring loaded 2018-06-27T00:11:52 < jadew> neat 2018-06-27T00:11:53 < aandrew> so you pull the middle down, board in, let go and the middle springs up to hold the board against that upper piece you see 2018-06-27T00:12:23 < jadew> very nice 2018-06-27T00:12:30 < jadew> I'll print some :D 2018-06-27T00:12:35 < aandrew> I think it was like $100 for the four + probe holders so not cheap but very well built and they do work really nicely 2018-06-27T00:14:26 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T00:16:24 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-27T00:16:25 < jadew> I have one of those that clamps on the side of the bench 2018-06-27T00:16:48 < jadew> but I wish I had something nicer 2018-06-27T00:18:13 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-27T00:18:55 < aandrew> I have a panavise that is nice just becuase it's got some weight (it has suction too but my desk has an orangepeel finish) 2018-06-27T00:19:49 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a01:cb14:ae4:6400:591e:f768:d003:db85] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T00:20:39 < jadew> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1774886 2018-06-27T00:21:02 < vampi-the-frog> ok so how do I hook up an ULPI interface? 2018-06-27T00:22:54 < Thorn> why is this in my youtube recommendations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlN0X2On4E8 2018-06-27T00:24:31 < aandrew> vampi-the-frog: you connect it to a USB2 phy 2018-06-27T00:24:51 < vampi-the-frog> I have one of those WaveShare boards 2018-06-27T00:25:09 < vampi-the-frog> https://www.waveshare.com/usb3300-usb-hs-board.htm 2018-06-27T00:25:54 < vampi-the-frog> god those data lines are spread out really randomly 2018-06-27T00:26:41 < jadew> waveshare makes shitty boards, but they're cheap 2018-06-27T00:27:11 < jadew> they don't seem to route them with any concern for timing 2018-06-27T00:27:25 < vampi-the-frog> hmm interesting point 2018-06-27T00:27:26 < vampi-the-frog> http://paste.vampi.tech/5b32afb03f59a 2018-06-27T00:27:43 < jadew> vampi, what do you do for a job? 2018-06-27T00:27:59 < Steffanx> Pumping 2018-06-27T00:28:31 < vampi-the-frog> http://i.imgur.com/p1Q7A.gif 2018-06-27T00:28:43 < jadew> sounds like fun 2018-06-27T00:28:55 < vampi-the-frog> php dev 2018-06-27T00:29:01 < vampi-the-frog> soon to be freelance dev 2018-06-27T00:29:02 < kakimir> aandrew: what is that in your imgur pic 2018-06-27T00:29:17 < jadew> vampi, since 2012? 2018-06-27T00:29:20 < Steffanx> Why php vampi-the-frog why not embedded stuff? 2018-06-27T00:29:39 < jadew> no interruptions? 2018-06-27T00:29:40 < vampi-the-frog> I think since 2009 as a job, and freelance before that 2018-06-27T00:29:56 < jadew> oh right 2018-06-27T00:29:57 < vampi-the-frog> I interrupted it to go to art school 2018-06-27T00:30:02 < jadew> hah 2018-06-27T00:30:12 < jadew> why planning to go freelance? 2018-06-27T00:30:30 < vampi-the-frog> it seems best for a programmer to work as a freelancer, because you get to pick your projects 2018-06-27T00:30:35 < aandrew> kakimir: it's a breakout/eval board. under the nucleo is a ecp5 fpga 2018-06-27T00:30:36 < Steffanx> The art of electronics is all you need 2018-06-27T00:30:43 < vampi-the-frog> at the job I had not much choice in use of frameworks and such and it's depressing 2018-06-27T00:30:48 < aandrew> basically takes a timed pulse from the stm32 and routes it ot one of 24 outputs 2018-06-27T00:31:11 < jadew> vampi-the-frog, yeah, I know how that goes 2018-06-27T00:31:15 < aandrew> the pulse goes to one of those small driver boards which is just a mosfet driver and mosfet 2018-06-27T00:31:22 < vampi-the-frog> I am not sure if doing embedded stuff would fit with my freelance plans, but I'd like to do some projects for sure 2018-06-27T00:31:26 < vampi-the-frog> nothing too complicated 2018-06-27T00:31:31 < aandrew> stm32 can also measure I/V at 2msps across the led being driven 2018-06-27T00:31:52 < vampi-the-frog> hbu jadew 2018-06-27T00:31:54 < jadew> do you think you'd be able to match your salary with freelance projects? 2018-06-27T00:32:03 < aandrew> stm32 does IEEE1588 for timing of the pulses and shits the ADC out ethernet 2018-06-27T00:32:20 < aandrew> jadew: my salary probably has quadrupled by doing freelance 2018-06-27T00:32:20 < jadew> vampi-the-frog, I quit a while back 2018-06-27T00:32:47 < jadew> aandrew, yeah, but you're in a different field and have access to different companies than we do 2018-06-27T00:32:58 < aandrew> aren't we talking embedded? 2018-06-27T00:32:58 < vampi-the-frog> I think I'll be able to easily match my salary and go beyond it 2018-06-27T00:33:14 < jadew> aandrew, vampi is a programmer 2018-06-27T00:33:22 < vampi-the-frog> who isn't these days :P 2018-06-27T00:33:38 < jadew> good point, that's one of the reasons why I quit 2018-06-27T00:33:42 < aandrew> define programmer 2018-06-27T00:33:46 < aandrew> we're all programmers 2018-06-27T00:33:55 < jadew> aandrew, that's all he did (I think) 2018-06-27T00:34:06 < jadew> I actually have his CV in front of me right now lol :P 2018-06-27T00:34:14 < vampi-the-frog> good stalking 2018-06-27T00:34:15 < aandrew> hah 2018-06-27T00:34:23 < Steffanx> Stalker 2018-06-27T00:34:43 < aandrew> but yeah if you're doing webdev shits it's hard because anyone can do it, you ahve to stand out either with experience/speed or something else 2018-06-27T00:34:46 < Steffanx> jadew: finally quit? 2018-06-27T00:34:49 < jadew> not stalking, he sent it to me several years back, but we weren't hiring at that time 2018-06-27T00:34:54 < jadew> was wondering what he's up to now 2018-06-27T00:35:03 < vampi-the-frog> did I? 2018-06-27T00:35:05 < vampi-the-frog> on IRC? 2018-06-27T00:35:07 < jadew> yeah 2018-06-27T00:35:10 < Steffanx> Hah 2018-06-27T00:35:12 < jadew> Steffanx, yep 2018-06-27T00:35:20 < vampi-the-frog> okay :P 2018-06-27T00:35:54 < vampi-the-frog> where are you from? 2018-06-27T00:36:01 < jadew> Romania 2018-06-27T00:36:15 < vampi-the-frog> bucharest? 2018-06-27T00:36:18 < jadew> yep 2018-06-27T00:36:22 < vampi-the-frog> cool 2018-06-27T00:36:39 < jadew> and we're the same age too 2018-06-27T00:36:58 < Steffanx> Is vampi THAT old. I didnt expect that 2018-06-27T00:37:06 < jadew> haha, screw you 2018-06-27T00:37:08 < vampi-the-frog> im the age of jesus christ 2018-06-27T00:37:13 < vampi-the-frog> and almost the age of Kim Jong Un 2018-06-27T00:37:26 < vampi-the-frog> though he achieved more than me and got to met Trump 2018-06-27T00:38:08 < jadew> what did he achieve? 2018-06-27T00:38:16 < vampi-the-frog> he's the ruler of a country 2018-06-27T00:38:22 < vampi-the-frog> wicked haircut 2018-06-27T00:38:22 < Steffanx> You found ##stm32, kim didnt. 2018-06-27T00:38:32 < vampi-the-frog> achieved 100 kilos of weight 2018-06-27T00:38:41 < vampi-the-frog> the list goes on 2018-06-27T00:38:57 < Steffanx> I still see no ##stm32 in that lis 2018-06-27T00:38:58 < Steffanx> T 2018-06-27T00:39:13 < vampi-the-frog> I am sure they use STM32 in his rocket guidance system 2018-06-27T00:39:17 < jadew> Steffanx, kaKIMir 2018-06-27T00:39:28 < Steffanx> Oooooh no 2018-06-27T00:39:39 < Steffanx> Lol 2018-06-27T00:39:42 < vampi-the-frog> or maybe they used Arduino and that's why they crashed 2018-06-27T00:40:53 < jadew> I think he'll play ball and maybe bring NK back from the dark ages 2018-06-27T00:41:03 < vampi-the-frog> I think the same thing 2018-06-27T00:41:07 < jadew> if he does that, that will be a great achievement indeed 2018-06-27T00:41:28 < vampi-the-frog> I think Trump is his dad now. 2018-06-27T00:41:37 < Steffanx> The dongs can finally visit the one and only best korea 2018-06-27T00:41:44 < Steffanx> Then* 2018-06-27T00:44:43 < jadew> Steffanx, any movie recommendations? 2018-06-27T00:45:23 < Steffanx> Nein 2018-06-27T00:45:44 < jadew> such a dry year 2018-06-27T00:46:06 < Steffanx> Not much "must see" lately 2018-06-27T00:46:15 < jadew> yeah 2018-06-27T00:46:24 < jadew> they've ran out of ideas 2018-06-27T00:46:55 < jadew> they should start making 80's look-alike movies 2018-06-27T00:47:00 < jadew> I enjoy those 2018-06-27T00:48:02 < vampi-the-frog> don't hassle the hoff 2018-06-27T00:49:38 < vampi-the-frog> my plan is to make a sound interface with 8 stereo inputs 2018-06-27T00:49:49 < Steffanx> When you want some entertainment you have to wake the stvn 2018-06-27T00:50:19 < vampi-the-frog> by sampling the I2S of 8 ADCs 2018-06-27T00:50:21 < stvn> ~ 2018-06-27T00:50:30 < vampi-the-frog> but because I don't have 8 I2S interfaces I'll do it with GPIO and DMA 2018-06-27T00:50:30 -!- munki [~lol@fm.synthte.ch] has quit [Killed (orwell.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 2018-06-27T00:50:40 < vampi-the-frog> then deinterlace them in software 2018-06-27T00:50:43 -!- munki_ [~lol@fm.synthte.ch] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T00:51:06 < srk> vampi-the-frog: think it's possible to mux them 2018-06-27T00:51:36 < vampi-the-frog> how so? 2018-06-27T00:52:00 < vampi-the-frog> use one I2S peripheral for multiple data sources? 2018-06-27T00:52:33 < srk> yeah, not sure tho, looks like it would need a switch 2018-06-27T00:52:55 < vampi-the-frog> wouldn't I need to run them at a faster clock? 2018-06-27T00:52:56 < srk> I want to try something similar with ice40 but like 8 channel i2s dac 2018-06-27T00:54:06 < vampi-the-frog> is that a DAC with 4 I2S outputs? 2018-06-27T00:54:11 < vampi-the-frog> or inputs? 2018-06-27T00:55:51 < srk> outputs 2018-06-27T00:56:37 < vampi-the-frog> if it's a DAC, wouldn't the I2S data be inputs to it? 2018-06-27T00:56:47 < srk> well, yes 2018-06-27T00:57:33 < vampi-the-frog> I'm playing with PCM1802 now 2018-06-27T00:57:39 < vampi-the-frog> I think my problem will be syncing them all up 2018-06-27T00:58:23 < srk> was trying to point out that I've considered making 8 chan sound card like you but there are only two i2s interfaces on stm32s 2018-06-27T00:58:32 < vampi-the-frog> yeah 2018-06-27T00:58:49 < srk> fpga might be better for this, I'm not quite there with them yet tho 2018-06-27T00:59:35 < vampi-the-frog> me neither, fpga seems intimidating for now 2018-06-27T01:05:13 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-27T01:07:06 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-27T01:07:33 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T01:07:40 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - https://znc.in] 2018-06-27T01:08:29 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T01:10:15 < vampi-the-frog> gnite 2018-06-27T01:10:18 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-27T01:10:35 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T01:10:43 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-27T01:12:57 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-27T01:13:52 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T01:22:04 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has quit [Quit: kill(-1,9) is not the way to exit] 2018-06-27T01:26:20 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-daebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-27T01:34:49 -!- Simon-- [~sim@2606:6a00:0:28:5604:a6ff:fe02:702b] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T02:02:54 -!- Getty [getty@stardestroyer.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T02:24:22 < dongs> pretty sure any ghetto cpld should be able to mux simple trash like I2S 2018-06-27T02:41:29 -!- upgrdman_ [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-27T02:44:19 < stvn> Altium Designer® is the industry’s fastest-growing PCB Design Tool because of its relentless development and groundbreaking innovations. These innovations have been architected specifically for the users, to be easy to learn, easy to use, and easy to adopt, especially with our truly unified design environment. 2018-06-27T02:46:31 < stvn> Gooday sport 2018-06-27T03:28:00 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T03:39:03 < aandrew> dongs: yep 2018-06-27T03:39:20 < aandrew> altium is very best single thread eda tool on the market 2018-06-27T04:06:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T04:09:54 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-27T04:10:20 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A323AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T04:13:15 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T04:14:09 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A32ADF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-27T04:14:45 < stvn> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/gGRYZ1DQ/lol.JPG 2018-06-27T04:25:28 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a01:cb14:ae4:6400:591e:f768:d003:db85] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-27T04:29:05 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-27T04:29:37 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T05:11:45 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-27T05:13:58 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T05:38:24 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-27T05:41:08 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-27T05:41:10 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T05:46:05 -!- Adluc [Adluc@base48.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-27T05:47:52 -!- kolokot [hexo@base48.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-27T05:48:21 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-27T05:50:36 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T05:51:59 < bitmask> https://youtu.be/lRJGDLmUKmo 2018-06-27T05:54:57 -!- srk [sorki@fedora/sorki] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T05:56:28 -!- Adluc [Adluc@base48.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T05:56:58 -!- hexo_ [hexo@base48.cz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T05:57:13 < englishman> i bonded my panel 2018-06-27T06:12:58 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-27T06:17:35 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T06:18:13 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-elwsgtbszejsemdo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-27T06:20:05 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T06:42:50 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-27T07:11:24 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfdayxhnzbngrsxl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T07:11:51 < stvn> hi englishman ! 2018-06-27T07:18:31 -!- day_ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T07:19:20 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-27T07:21:50 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-27T07:21:55 -!- day_ is now known as day 2018-06-27T07:27:12 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T07:30:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4db8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T08:34:34 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-27T08:36:15 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T08:39:44 < stvn> the rubber duck 2018-06-27T09:03:42 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T09:16:34 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-4db8d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-27T09:32:01 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-27T09:36:40 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T09:43:49 < Thorn> what kind of signal is output on MCO pins? analog or digital? 2018-06-27T09:56:38 < Cracki> lel industry dude comes to uni for an open presentation/lecture. soccer match at the same time. organizer sends update: public viewing of first half in the lecture hall, then the talk, afterwards timeshifted second half 2018-06-27T09:57:15 < stvn> gooday sport 2018-06-27T09:57:18 < stvn> it's fucken australia 2018-06-27T09:57:29 < Cracki> note: "public viewing" seems to be german english for public screening, not looking at cadavers 2018-06-27T09:57:49 < Thorn> stvn: are you a drop bear attack survivor 2018-06-27T09:59:13 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T10:03:15 < stvn> jesus they're making you work hard in russia 2018-06-27T10:03:17 < stvn> Thorn: idk 2018-06-27T10:08:21 < Steffanx> Did you know the coach of the aussie team is a dutchie stvn? 2018-06-27T10:08:53 < Steffanx> And they still lost. Can you imagine how bad those theepots are? 2018-06-27T10:10:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T10:13:05 < stvn> oh they're shit 2018-06-27T10:13:21 < stvn> i don't have a single patriotic bone in my body 2018-06-27T10:13:32 < stvn> i think this country is a toilet 2018-06-27T10:26:58 < stvn> muh heritage! 2018-06-27T10:28:30 < stvn> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Nylex_Clock.jpg 2018-06-27T10:51:52 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-27T10:52:12 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T11:05:27 -!- fc5dc9d4_ is now known as fc5dc9d4 2018-06-27T11:10:55 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T11:11:54 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-27T11:12:20 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T11:38:00 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-27T11:38:18 < kakimir> arrived to work - time to sleep eyes wide open 2018-06-27T11:50:42 < stvn> yeah 2018-06-27T12:00:36 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T12:04:45 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T12:10:29 -!- dfgg [~damian@62-210-38-95.rev.poneytelecom.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-27T12:28:35 -!- dfgg [~damian@62-210-38-95.rev.poneytelecom.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T12:41:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-27T12:45:25 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T12:45:50 < karlp> Steffanx: yar, we blew it on the nigeria game :| still, next stop euro 2020 2018-06-27T12:57:14 < karlp> now can just relax and watch mexico :) 2018-06-27T13:02:51 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T13:07:31 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-27T13:31:25 < day> karlp: its only "we" if they are winning. if they are losing its "they". 2018-06-27T13:32:13 < karlp> that's where you're wrong. 2018-06-27T13:38:22 < day> true. its always they :p 2018-06-27T14:17:36 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T15:00:07 < Laurenceb> sup trolls 2018-06-27T15:00:18 * Laurenceb is buying shit for Firday 13th 2018-06-27T15:13:07 < Laurenceb> https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/06/27/0517240/blogger-stabbed-to-death-after-internet-abuse-seminar 2018-06-27T15:13:11 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-27T15:21:00 < kakimir> SJW 2018-06-27T15:41:09 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zfdayxhnzbngrsxl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-27T15:51:07 -!- hexo_ is now known as klokoton 2018-06-27T16:02:56 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T16:02:57 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T16:04:21 -!- jsoft [~jsoft@unaffiliated/jsoft] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T16:09:17 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a01:cb14:ae4:6400:59a4:6445:55ab:bc80] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T16:23:57 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-27T16:27:08 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T16:38:31 < englishman> my capacitor arrived 2018-06-27T16:39:02 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T16:44:09 < qyx> 0603? 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2018-06-27T17:55:52 < kakimir> like separators? 2018-06-27T17:58:18 < srk> I would like to use fonts with ligatures like https://github.com/i-tu/Hasklig but urxvt/vim combo won't do 2018-06-27T18:01:22 < kakimir> no shit it wont do that :) 2018-06-27T18:01:42 < kakimir> it's vim 2018-06-27T18:04:52 < kakimir> I don't personally see need for that 2018-06-27T18:05:07 < kakimir> not even for the looks 2018-06-27T18:06:51 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T18:07:35 < Adluc> can somebody explain why the f. STMod+ does not have 3v3? 2018-06-27T18:09:38 < kakimir> something like /*** APPLICATION STATE HANDLERS ***/ doesn't stand out of code like big graphics would 2018-06-27T18:09:42 -!- enh [~enhering@2804:18:6810:e544:30b6:8744:574e:e987] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-27T18:10:20 < srk> kakimir: vim for me is about saving keystrokes 2018-06-27T18:11:37 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-27T18:12:05 < kakimir> I have noticed that keystrokes come ultimatelly to be a limiting factor 2018-06-27T18:12:43 < kakimir> some days I notice that I'm flat out beating the keyboard and I won't get all the stuff out as fast as it forms 2018-06-27T18:13:08 < srk> suckish interface :) 2018-06-27T18:13:10 < BrainDamage> personally i find ligatures as a layer of confusion 2018-06-27T18:13:57 < BrainDamage> ok in a read only medium, but not something you're supposed to interact with 2018-06-27T18:18:42 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-27T18:18:56 < kakimir> eclipse just decides to selectivelly refactor stuff 2018-06-27T18:19:04 < kakimir> sometimes even nothing 2018-06-27T18:19:35 < kakimir> at this time it left one old name behind 2018-06-27T18:20:02 < kakimir> refactor that you can trust! 2018-06-27T18:21:34 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-27T18:22:15 < BrainDamage> in refactor we trust 2018-06-27T18:24:07 < karlp> in cod we trust 2018-06-27T18:24:22 < karlp> Adluc: and what is STMod+? 2018-06-27T18:25:34 < karlp> srk: sooo. how do you type a ligature to save keystrokes? 2018-06-27T18:25:42 < srk> you don't 2018-06-27T18:25:54 < srk> you type -> and it becomes a ligature 2018-06-27T18:26:01 < srk> just visual thing 2018-06-27T18:26:25 < Adluc> when you are on the line, it becomes ascii, when you leave it, it changes to fancy hieroglyphs 2018-06-27T18:26:41 < karlp> yeah, I've never really seen why you would want that sort of thing. 2018-06-27T18:26:54 < Adluc> its cool when you show it to someone on laptop :D all the lambas, and empty sets, Integer becomes bold Z 2018-06-27T18:27:10 < Adluc> *lambdas 2018-06-27T18:27:19 < kakimir> something that would evaluate macros and show them in IDE would be nice 2018-06-27T18:27:47 < kakimir> like it was code 2018-06-27T18:28:04 < kakimir> then debug them too 2018-06-27T18:30:47 < Laurenceb> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi7gSu9ePUc 2018-06-27T18:33:21 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T18:36:23 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T18:36:57 < qyx> what may cause a nice pinkish color on my camera? 2018-06-27T18:37:17 < qyx> actually if I shot a test pattern picture, it looks ok 2018-06-27T18:37:31 < qyx> but all trees, leaves and stuff is pink 2018-06-27T18:37:36 < qyx> lack of ir-cut filter? 2018-06-27T18:38:07 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-27T18:38:13 < tomeaton17> Anyone converted a uvision project to makefile? 2018-06-27T18:40:01 < kakimir> qyx: polaroid 2018-06-27T18:40:48 < kakimir> did ir photography once 2018-06-27T18:41:46 < kakimir> it had pinkish tint to it maybe 2018-06-27T18:44:29 < PeterM> qyx definitely lack of ir-cut 2018-06-27T18:45:11 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2018-06-27T18:46:33 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T18:46:36 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T18:57:35 < kakimir> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Tree_example_IR.jpg 2018-06-27T18:57:45 < kakimir> sky is black if you didn't know 2018-06-27T18:58:17 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-27T19:00:37 < kakimir> trees are pink 2018-06-27T19:02:18 < kakimir> right 2018-06-27T19:04:30 < englishman> rip slack 2018-06-27T19:04:50 < srk> <3 2018-06-27T19:04:58 < englishman> irc 4 lyfe 2018-06-27T19:07:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T19:09:51 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T19:09:57 < kakimir> slack? 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2018-06-27T20:55:05 -!- machinehum_ [b843f806@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.67.248.6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T20:55:19 < machinehum_> Does anyone know a "non-ebay" place to get these https://www.ebay.com/itm/4S-16-8V-Li-ion-Lithium-18650-Battery-balance-Board-full-charge-Balance-Circuit-/122389198998 2018-06-27T20:55:21 < aandrew> mawk: what is the flash page size, 2018-06-27T20:55:33 < mawk> 256 bytes 2018-06-27T20:55:48 < mawk> but I'm not using "half-page write" but "fast word write" 2018-06-27T20:55:55 < mawk> and a word should be 4 bytes 2018-06-27T20:55:55 < aandrew> so you erase the entire page, then write to $last-4 ? 2018-06-27T20:56:08 < mawk> no I don't erase, just write the word 2018-06-27T20:56:14 < mawk> I should erase first ? 2018-06-27T20:56:25 < aandrew> generally you must always erase the entire page beore you can write 2018-06-27T20:56:36 < mawk> ah, that may explain it 2018-06-27T20:56:37 < mawk> thanks 2018-06-27T20:56:40 < aandrew> flash erases to "all ones" and writing generally can only set bits to zero 2018-06-27T20:57:07 < aandrew> SOME flash implementations will be able to erase partially but the general case is erasures are page based and writes can be page or individual word based 2018-06-27T20:57:24 < aandrew> underneath some implementations do word based write by reading the whole flash page, altering the word, then writing the whole page 2018-06-27T20:57:42 < aandrew> you need to read your datasheets and understand them. flash can be tricky 2018-06-27T20:57:46 < mawk> yeah 2018-06-27T20:57:58 < mawk> for the whole page programming bit it works perfectly 2018-06-27T20:58:21 < mawk> well, half-page programming rather 2018-06-27T20:58:29 < mawk> whole page erase but half-page program, dunno why 2018-06-27T20:58:56 < mawk> so EEPROM looks more suited for storing my config words than flash, if I have to read it all then erase the write back, it's painful 2018-06-27T20:59:39 < tpw_rules> yes eeprom is what you need 2018-06-27T21:00:09 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-35-135-14.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T21:00:12 < aandrew> eeprom is usually byte erase and byte program 2018-06-27T21:00:20 < tpw_rules> yeah. some stm32s have it build in 2018-06-27T21:00:20 < aandrew> there are different technologies for sure 2018-06-27T21:00:21 < tpw_rules> built 2018-06-27T21:00:27 < tpw_rules> fram mcu anyone? 2018-06-27T21:00:31 < aandrew> heh 2018-06-27T21:01:05 < tpw_rules> i think you can just get an i2c fram 2018-06-27T21:04:07 < aandrew> yep you can 2018-06-27T21:04:57 < aandrew> something else you can do if you're always updating config and are paranoid about write cycles is to figure out your worst case write time, make sure you have enough juice in capacitance to handle that, and use a comparator + NMI input on your MCU 2018-06-27T21:05:10 < aandrew> store/update the config in RAM and when power fail occurs, you write to flash 2018-06-27T21:05:22 < aandrew> but really if you're constantly updating config you should probably rethink your strategy 2018-06-27T21:05:38 < aandrew> config is not often updated and if you're logging or someshit then do that elsewhere with a mechanism such as described above 2018-06-27T21:05:59 < aandrew> because your config disappearing sucks, but losing a few lines of log data, especially if you can flag that it was lost, is far more acceptable 2018-06-27T21:16:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-35-135-14.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T21:25:21 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T21:33:44 < Laurenceb> typical britbong activities https://twitter.com/DAYFORFREEDOM4/status/1012010539449573378 2018-06-27T21:41:45 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-35-135-14.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T21:58:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@c-73-35-135-14.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-27T22:05:38 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T22:26:42 < aandrew> ok wtf was that 2018-06-27T22:31:45 < Cracki> remove kebab? 2018-06-27T22:32:40 < Steffanx> that was you opening that link, The WTF part i mean. aandrew 2018-06-27T22:33:48 < vampi-the-frog> Milo joined UKIP now 2018-06-27T22:34:07 < vampi-the-frog> world class blowjobs for everyone! 2018-06-27T22:34:23 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zgpgncvbvltnaacc] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T22:35:02 < stvn> msg nickserv identify theepot 2018-06-27T22:35:14 < Steffanx> awh 2018-06-27T22:35:27 < Steffanx> [NickServ] Invalid password for stvn. 2018-06-27T22:35:35 < stvn> [: 2018-06-27T22:35:37 < Cracki> TIL matlab has a "simscape" toolbox. it's for physical simulations (not quite collision detection) 2018-06-27T22:35:41 < Cracki> *physics 2018-06-27T22:36:04 < Cracki> they have a hexapod (?) demo and a scissor lift demo 2018-06-27T22:52:11 < stvn> of course 2018-06-27T22:52:38 < stvn> have to sell the $10,000+ of bolt-ons 2018-06-27T22:52:42 -!- rewolff [~wolff@ip113-99-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T23:11:22 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-27T23:11:46 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-27T23:12:30 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T23:23:49 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-27T23:28:27 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-27T23:39:17 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-27T23:59:48 < kakimir> somebody give this channel url bot --- Day changed Thu Jun 28 2018 2018-06-28T00:04:00 < kakimir> yesterday when I was naked having soy beans in tomato sauce all over my thighs and on the floor, looking down at my hairy legs I realized it 2018-06-28T00:04:35 < englishman> a true stm32 pro 2018-06-28T00:05:15 < kakimir> frighteningly I might have an alter ego that does youtube videos 2018-06-28T00:06:05 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-28T00:10:02 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETTyVQrUZt8 what I mean 2018-06-28T00:10:37 < kakimir> englishman: where are the irc statistics? 2018-06-28T00:15:08 < kakimir> I like those bubbles 2018-06-28T00:19:46 < Steffanx> What bubbles? 2018-06-28T00:20:26 < kakimir> bubbles with our names in them 2018-06-28T00:20:31 < kakimir> and arrows between them 2018-06-28T00:21:11 < Steffanx> You dont know where to find em? 2018-06-28T00:21:23 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T00:22:08 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-28T00:22:09 < Steffanx> Hmm where is antto 2018-06-28T00:22:28 < Steffanx> http://jpa.kapsi.fi/stuff/other/cspy/stm32.html ? 2018-06-28T00:24:12 < kakimir> okay 2018-06-28T00:24:19 < kakimir> Bug is the word of the month 2018-06-28T00:24:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-03b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-28T00:24:31 < kakimir> jadew: check it out 2018-06-28T00:24:31 < Steffanx> It always is 2018-06-28T00:24:51 < kakimir> me and dongs don't talk that much 2018-06-28T00:33:04 < Steffanx> Lies 2018-06-28T00:34:36 < kakimir> no it's true 2018-06-28T00:34:40 < kakimir> because of timezones 2018-06-28T00:34:53 < kakimir> and my improved daily schedual 2018-06-28T00:40:55 < Steffanx> Ahw 2018-06-28T00:44:01 < kakimir> also dongs doesn't rage in ircs so much 2018-06-28T00:44:05 < kakimir> nowdays 2018-06-28T00:48:16 < kakimir> I don't know if it's a good thing 2018-06-28T00:48:32 < kakimir> raging dongs is healthy dongs 2018-06-28T00:52:56 < aandrew> wtf 2018-06-28T00:53:06 < aandrew> why am I related to jadew? 2018-06-28T00:53:21 < BrainDamage> do you have tracksuit ancestry? 2018-06-28T00:53:28 < aandrew> no 2018-06-28T00:53:33 < aandrew> my ancestry is german 2018-06-28T00:53:57 < aandrew> I've got a predilection for leather pants and nice boobs 2018-06-28T00:54:11 < aandrew> that and I hate frou frou beer 2018-06-28T00:55:13 < Lux> new toys: https://imgur.com/a/qibS18g 2018-06-28T00:55:42 < aandrew> clicking, but this better not be a fleshlight 2018-06-28T00:55:44 < Lux> a stereo microscope for soldering really makes soldering stuff so much easier 2018-06-28T00:55:53 < aandrew> ah nice inspection scope 2018-06-28T00:56:01 < aandrew> looks like a smaller but longer throw version of mine 2018-06-28T00:56:23 < Lux> it's the same model as the amscope 400 2018-06-28T00:56:36 < aandrew> I don't know what model of amscope mine is 2018-06-28T00:56:36 < Lux> just from germany and more expensive 2018-06-28T00:57:07 < stvn> Yeah mate 2018-06-28T00:57:29 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a01:cb14:ae4:6400:88a:156e:12a1:3058] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-28T00:57:32 < aandrew> best single piece of hardware investment I've made in my lab, especially now that I'm in my 40s and cant' see shit 2018-06-28T00:57:36 < stvn> I need a reasonable dog 2018-06-28T00:57:49 < aandrew> ... reasonable dog? 2018-06-28T00:58:08 < stvn> Good inspection scope 2018-06-28T00:58:39 < Lux> what i got: https://www.amazon.com/AmScope-SE400-Z-Professional-Microscope-Magnification/dp/B005C75IVM 2018-06-28T00:59:13 < Lux> i guess bresser just rebrands these 2018-06-28T00:59:38 < Lux> or there may be some chinese fab making them and they are all just rebranding 2018-06-28T00:59:56 < aandrew> ^^ 2018-06-28T01:00:47 < Lux> and for some annoying reason it's 100€ more in the eu 2018-06-28T01:01:22 < Lux> 280€ vs 190 usd 2018-06-28T01:01:30 < Lux> but still worth it 2018-06-28T01:03:50 < aandrew> just blame trump 2018-06-28T01:04:03 < stvn> I wonder who sells to Australia 2018-06-28T01:04:38 < stvn> And their 240v madness 2018-06-28T01:06:03 < Lux> you could just order it from amscope directly 2018-06-28T01:06:11 < stvn> That’s an idea 2018-06-28T01:07:19 < stvn> I’ll ask them about 240v 2018-06-28T01:09:52 < stvn> 🍷🐈 2018-06-28T01:15:06 < Steffanx> Better be sure you dont blow your movs stvn 2018-06-28T01:26:10 < stvn> Ty 2018-06-28T01:43:26 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-28T01:46:18 < jadew> aandrew, is that somehow bad? 2018-06-28T01:46:59 < jadew> anyway, it looks like only you and Steffanx, talk back to me 2018-06-28T01:47:23 < jadew> that's rather disappointing 2018-06-28T01:47:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T01:47:57 < aandrew> oh that's what that is 2018-06-28T01:48:09 < jadew> heh 2018-06-28T01:56:55 < Ultrasauce> everyone else knows better by now 2018-06-28T02:10:08 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-28T02:11:07 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T02:12:55 -!- CheBuzz [~CheBuzz@unaffiliated/chebuzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T02:28:12 < jadew> Lux, they're all rebranding 2018-06-28T02:34:23 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-28T02:43:22 -!- Cyric [~quassel@154.133.95.88.customer.cdi.no] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T02:43:22 -!- Cyric [~quassel@154.133.95.88.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-28T02:43:22 -!- Cyric [~quassel@unaffiliated/cyric] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T03:01:50 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-28T03:15:48 -!- [1]MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T03:16:49 -!- MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2018-06-28T03:16:49 -!- [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius 2018-06-28T03:34:38 -!- machinehum_ [b843f806@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.67.248.6] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2018-06-28T03:53:27 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-28T03:54:08 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zgpgncvbvltnaacc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-28T03:58:38 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T04:09:07 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32EAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T04:10:34 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T04:13:33 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p57A323AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-28T04:43:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-28T05:30:24 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-28T05:38:27 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T05:40:10 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-28T05:40:10 -!- Cracki_ [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T05:40:12 -!- Cracki_ is now known as Cracki 2018-06-28T05:41:55 < upgrdman> :) :) https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/8ud108/fully_grown_man_on_a_swing_wcgw/ 2018-06-28T05:42:31 < jadew> what does WCGW mean? 2018-06-28T05:42:33 < jadew> ah 2018-06-28T05:42:34 < jadew> nvm 2018-06-28T05:44:04 < jadew> lol, ok that was funny, thought it would be gross 2018-06-28T05:46:29 < upgrdman> > thinks it would be gross > clicks anyway classic jadew 2018-06-28T05:47:00 < jadew> didn't want to, but couldn't help myself 2018-06-28T05:47:31 < englishman> capacitor works 2018-06-28T05:48:59 < upgrdman> i wonder if stvn ever ran across stuff like this back when he repaired dj equipment https://i.imgur.com/MB060sc.gifv 2018-06-28T05:58:20 < kow__> I put cockroaches inside laptops and drop them off at various repair shops around the city to fulfill a fetish of mine 2018-06-28T05:58:38 < kow__> AMA 2018-06-28T06:02:40 < englishman> zyp: so i read the regs on grounding to see if i could use this 6/2 neutral-suspended wire as a feeder to the small garage and add new grounds 2018-06-28T06:02:52 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T06:03:03 < englishman> i can do it, it's legal, but i have to hammer two 3m long 2cm wide steel poles into the ground to act as the new building grounds 2018-06-28T06:03:17 < englishman> i think after all i will just bury some new underground cable and call it a day. 2018-06-28T06:15:15 < englishman> In a final case, fasteners for the sunscreen weren't tightened sufficiently prior to testing under simulated launch conditions. Over a dozen of them popped loose, several ended up inside the spacecraft body, and two of them still haven't been definitively located. During a press call today, the chair of the review board, Tom Young, estimated that these instances alone pushed the launch back by six months at 2018-06-28T06:15:15 < englishman> the cost of roughly $1 million a day. 2018-06-28T06:15:18 < englishman> rip NASA 2018-06-28T06:29:30 -!- aandrew is now known as aandrew2 2018-06-28T06:29:34 -!- aandrew2 is now known as aandrew 2018-06-28T06:42:53 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-28T07:05:21 < antto> Steffanx dafuq is that? 2018-06-28T07:06:59 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-28T07:09:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T07:17:49 -!- day_ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T07:19:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-28T07:19:34 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T07:20:58 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T07:21:03 -!- day_ is now known as day 2018-06-28T07:55:47 < PeterM> englishman, you've got farm equiptment, surely you can use a loader on a tractor or something to push the poles into the ground 2018-06-28T07:56:03 < dongs> mm pushing poles 2018-06-28T07:56:38 < PeterM> sounds like a german strategy during ww2 2018-06-28T07:57:12 < englishman> while we are out burying poles with farm equipment, also a german tactic, i could just dig the cable trench with one 2018-06-28T08:02:40 < PeterM> is a metal pole cheaper than the additional cable? 2018-06-28T08:08:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-28T08:14:27 < dongs> https://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/18/vivo-nex-s/gal/-1024w2/gsmarena_012.jpg finally a phone company gets it 2018-06-28T08:14:39 < dongs> a fucking faggot selfiecamera that i can leave permanently gone 2018-06-28T08:14:45 < dongs> by never popping it out 2018-06-28T08:16:57 < englishman> PeterM the cable cost is nearly the same as I'll have to add copper inside of both buildings. The new underground cable is the better solution for marginally more effort 2018-06-28T08:42:38 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T08:46:50 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-04ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T08:55:34 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-28T08:59:19 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:06:11 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-28T09:15:33 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:19:29 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-218.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:37:31 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:37:40 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-28T09:39:34 -!- ivanshmakov [~user@tunnel35660-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T09:39:34 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xeatetcnrwjtyrlo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T09:40:39 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-04ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-28T09:43:07 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qjpofultgodxwrai] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:50:27 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:50:29 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-28T09:50:50 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:52:16 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-28T09:52:35 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T09:56:27 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T10:00:07 < dongs> https://hologram.io/next-steps-for-the-dash-development-board/ haha dickstarter retards 2018-06-28T10:00:15 < dongs> 8 layer board for a fucking nodemcu with 3G module 2018-06-28T10:00:18 < dongs> what teh acutal fuck 2018-06-28T10:00:25 < dongs> then they're whining its "too expensive to manufacture" 2018-06-28T10:00:27 < dongs> no shit, sherlock 2018-06-28T10:01:09 < dongs> the whole fucking reason that module exists is so cheap niggers can stick it on 2L boards and not have to worry about all the RF/etc shit 2018-06-28T10:03:44 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-28T10:05:17 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wjhjsnvznxvsnazb] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T10:05:48 < stvn> baby pang pang 2018-06-28T10:13:32 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-28T10:13:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T10:16:09 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-218.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-28T10:17:50 < fest> dongs: I reviewed single cell lipo charger + fuel gauge board recently 2018-06-28T10:17:56 < fest> 6 layers 2018-06-28T10:18:29 < fest> and it looked like the guy pointed a machine gun of capacitors against the board 2018-06-28T10:18:48 < stvn> that was me 2018-06-28T10:19:01 < fest> haha, those were ceramics stvn 2018-06-28T10:19:10 < stvn> heh 2018-06-28T10:19:20 < stvn> do you have review vid? 2018-06-28T10:19:47 < fest> that was internal shit 2018-06-28T10:19:55 < stvn> ah 2018-06-28T10:19:55 < fest> also, "wow, quite expensive to make" 2018-06-28T10:20:13 < stvn> indeed 2018-06-28T10:20:18 < stvn> must have been makers 2018-06-28T10:20:19 < Steffanx> The capacitor dog 2018-06-28T10:20:25 < stvn> lol 2018-06-28T10:20:28 < stvn> hi steffan 2018-06-28T10:20:39 < Steffanx> Lo 2018-06-28T10:21:05 < stvn> have you any good electrolytics mate 2018-06-28T10:21:20 < Steffanx> I dont pump. 2018-06-28T10:21:26 < stvn> cool 2018-06-28T10:21:33 < stvn> is dr b in? 2018-06-28T10:22:01 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T10:37:44 < Steffanx> !wz melbourne 2018-06-28T10:37:46 < englishbot> [Melbourne, Australia] Mostly Cloudy. Temp is 9.7°C. Humidity: 84%. 2018-06-28T10:43:08 < stvn> and that's real good 2018-06-28T11:19:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-28T11:20:19 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T11:35:51 < PeterM> !wz penrith, australia 2018-06-28T11:35:54 < englishbot> [Penrith, Australia] Partly Cloudy. Temp is 9.0°C. Humidity: 96%. --- Log closed Thu Jun 28 11:48:03 2018 --- Log opened Thu Jun 28 11:55:22 2018 2018-06-28T11:55:22 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T11:55:22 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 141 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 140 normal] 2018-06-28T11:56:38 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 82 secs 2018-06-28T12:11:14 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T12:12:38 < Lux> is it normal, that ceramic caps short if you go a bit over the rated voltage ? 2018-06-28T12:12:57 < Lux> had some 10V 330nF caps do that when applying 15V 2018-06-28T12:13:45 < Lux> i read that x7r caps apparently can do more overvoltage 2018-06-28T12:14:42 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a01:cb14:ae4:6400:18f9:c0ac:8d6e:e54d] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T12:17:29 < Lux> i allready know i fucked that up, accidentally placed 10V caps where >25V ones should go, just curious 2018-06-28T12:23:43 < stvn> rusty old diode pump 2018-06-28T12:34:33 < stvn> i don't think sticking too many volts on a cap is going to help any 2018-06-28T12:34:33 < Steffanx> 10->15V is 50%. Wouldnt call that a bit, lux 2018-06-28T12:35:26 < Lux> yeah I fucked up the bom on that one 2018-06-28T12:35:37 < Lux> in th end it even killed a 10$ chip 2018-06-28T12:36:37 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-28T12:37:34 < stvn> that's kinda groovy 2018-06-28T12:41:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T12:42:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T12:52:10 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T12:58:25 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-28T12:59:14 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-28T13:00:14 < stvn> dr.b 2018-06-28T13:03:30 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T13:03:56 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-28T13:04:48 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T13:07:40 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T13:14:11 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T13:22:46 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-28T13:39:40 < fest> Lux: also, keep in mind that 10V cap has ~ half the rated capacitance at 10V DC bias 2018-06-28T13:47:40 < jadew> shouldn't caps fail in open, rather than short? 2018-06-28T13:47:57 < karlp> not always, depends on their construction. 2018-06-28T13:48:01 < karlp> same with resistors. 2018-06-28T13:49:51 < jadew> I suppose that the ones that blow up fail in short first 2018-06-28T13:52:52 < stvn> class x caps are meant to fail short 2018-06-28T13:52:56 < stvn> class y open 2018-06-28T13:54:26 < stvn> anything else is anyone's guess 2018-06-28T13:55:03 < jadew> where do you have that information from? 2018-06-28T13:55:33 < stvn> http://www.kemet.com/Lists/Filestore/EvoxRifaRFIandSMD.pdf 2018-06-28T13:55:38 < stvn> lots of places, here's kemet 2018-06-28T13:58:23 < karlp> stvn: that's completely different 2018-06-28T13:58:29 < karlp> that's for x and Y mains caps 2018-06-28T13:58:37 < jadew> yeah, looks like they're specifically made for this pupose 2018-06-28T13:58:37 < stvn> yea 2018-06-28T13:58:56 < stvn> i've seen others fail short and open 2018-06-28T13:58:57 < jadew> from what I'm reading different materials fail in different ways - it would be nice to know which fails how 2018-06-28T13:58:58 < karlp> nothing to do with x5r or y5u whatsit ceramic shits 2018-06-28T13:59:14 < stvn> true' 2018-06-28T13:59:25 < karlp> jadew: talk to your manufacturer explicitly if this matters for you. 2018-06-28T13:59:34 < jadew> it doesn't, but it would be nice to know 2018-06-28T14:00:23 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-28T14:00:31 < karlp> if you'r enot strictly using explit parts with a relationship with the manufacturer, the behaviour is "either, and no, you don't get to decide" 2018-06-28T14:00:53 < karlp> rememeber it depends why they fail too. 2018-06-28T14:00:53 -!- kow__ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-28T14:00:54 < jadew> if you had the choice between two caps with the same specs but different materials, you could choose one over the other based on this 2018-06-28T14:01:19 -!- kow__ [~kow@135.0.26.107] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T14:01:43 < sync> yes, you buy X or Y caps then 2018-06-28T14:01:49 < sync> otherwise you don't get the choice 2018-06-28T14:02:32 < karlp> jadew: right, that's the "speak to you rmanufacturer" part 2018-06-28T14:03:20 < stvn> if you mention steffan they'll put you in the right direction 2018-06-28T14:04:24 * karlp imagines jadew going all kakmir, only instead of sma's, it's big chunky x&y caps all over the place 2018-06-28T14:04:35 < stvn> that'd be cool 2018-06-28T14:04:42 < stvn> i was trying to point him in that direction :) 2018-06-28T14:05:39 < stvn> i once had to replace an x cap because the MOV next to it burned 2018-06-28T14:10:58 < stvn> an exciting day 2018-06-28T14:14:23 < aandrew> https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/8uen0t/i_found_a_homemade_electric_chair_while_exploring/ 2018-06-28T14:14:29 < aandrew> Found dongs 2018-06-28T14:14:47 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T14:15:53 < jadew> a crazy person lived there 2018-06-28T14:15:57 < jadew> btw, how's terry? 2018-06-28T14:16:56 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-28T14:17:22 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T14:17:35 < stvn> lol 2018-06-28T14:18:08 < stvn> terry? 2018-06-28T14:18:36 < jadew> the temple OS guy - isn't that his name? 2018-06-28T14:20:32 < jadew> "Davis describes the operating system as a modern x86-64 Commodore 64 with a variation of C (named HolyC) in place of BASIC." 2018-06-28T14:20:34 < jadew> HolyC 2018-06-28T14:20:54 < jadew> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TempleOS 2018-06-28T14:21:07 < jadew> "Written in HolyC" lol 2018-06-28T14:22:00 < Laurenceb> still saner than muh gui 2018-06-28T14:22:27 < jadew> "It uses a non-standard text format (known as DolDoc) which has support for hypertext links, images and 3D meshes to be embedded into what are otherwise regular ASCII files. A file can have, for example, a spinning 3D model of a tank as a comment in source code." 2018-06-28T14:22:29 < jadew> lmfao 2018-06-28T14:24:52 < karlp> aandrew: did you get the actual good bits in that thread? 2018-06-28T14:24:56 < stvn> lol 2018-06-28T14:24:57 < karlp> the chair itself is kinda lame... 2018-06-28T14:25:21 < karlp> you neeeded to link to a bit further into it.... https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/8uen0t/i_found_a_homemade_electric_chair_while_exploring/e1fce5o/ 2018-06-28T14:26:01 < stvn> nipples 2018-06-28T14:26:18 < stvn> k 2018-06-28T14:42:52 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T15:05:55 < Laurenceb> sup 2018-06-28T15:08:07 < Laurenceb> comments deliver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoI-UD_A1w 2018-06-28T15:17:30 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T15:19:04 < kakimir> I moved some board revision stuff from main file to header file 2018-06-28T15:19:15 < kakimir> and included the file in the exact same place 2018-06-28T15:19:37 < kakimir> where I cut it from main file 2018-06-28T15:19:54 < kakimir> so some const char strings are not visible apparently to mainfile 2018-06-28T15:20:56 < kakimir> like const char sw_string[] = "shiet boi" 2018-06-28T15:24:55 -!- ivanshmakov [~user@tunnel35660-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T15:25:36 < englishman> jadew: terry hasnt been seen in a couple weeks iirc 2018-06-28T15:25:45 < englishman> he was living on the street in the washington tricities area 2018-06-28T15:25:48 < englishman> and doing well 2018-06-28T15:25:53 < englishman> had some visitors from the internet 2018-06-28T15:26:39 < jadew> too bad he's nuts, could have had a nice life 2018-06-28T15:26:51 < Laurenceb> >These British women are right to fly to Turkey; British men are disgusting beer-bellied unwashed boars. 2018-06-28T15:26:53 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-28T15:26:54 < jadew> he's obviously skilled 2018-06-28T15:27:31 < englishman> well he become a knight templar and started recruiting 2018-06-28T15:27:40 < englishman> can't get much better than that 2018-06-28T15:28:15 < englishman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IZhM9TFuYI 2018-06-28T15:44:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-28T15:49:50 < jadew> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJ2jMZ-gaI 2018-06-28T15:50:28 < englishman> dongs, fpv innovation in 2018 https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=568426109630 2018-06-28T15:51:10 < zyp> wat 2018-06-28T15:51:30 < zyp> diversity receiver? 2018-06-28T15:51:40 < englishman> yes 2018-06-28T16:02:46 < dfgg> they've just discovered lora... 2018-06-28T16:16:33 < aandrew> karlp: where he hooked a bench supply up to his nuts? yes 2018-06-28T16:17:39 < karlp> ok, good :) 2018-06-28T16:22:48 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-28T16:24:47 -!- jon1012 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-28T16:24:50 -!- jon101284 [~jon1012@foresight/developer/jon1012] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T16:26:26 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T16:32:50 < dongs> englishman: lolwat 2018-06-28T16:39:20 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-28T16:40:50 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T16:58:23 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Excess Flood] 2018-06-28T17:03:10 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@220-235-205-235.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-28T17:05:41 < dekar> http://wikispeed.org/2018/02/how-to-fire-a-scrum-team-member/ 2018-06-28T17:07:33 < karlp> did someone feel a need to really write that seriously? 2018-06-28T17:09:22 < srk> oO 2018-06-28T17:09:45 < srk> there should be something link 'how to run from a company that hires scrum masters' 2018-06-28T17:09:50 < srk> *like 2018-06-28T17:09:52 < Laurenceb> what did I just read 2018-06-28T17:12:39 < srk> 'environment that values openness, courage, commitment, focus, and respect' will like fire you for not working on your scrum backlog :D 2018-06-28T17:12:42 < srk> ahahaha 2018-06-28T17:13:02 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T17:30:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-28T17:32:23 -!- Amun_Ra [~amun-ra@retro.rocks] has quit [Quit: Gdyby mi się chciało tak jak mi się nie chce...] 2018-06-28T17:33:52 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T17:34:56 -!- Amun_Ra [~amun-ra@retro.rocks] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T17:35:05 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-28T17:44:32 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T17:44:32 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-28T17:44:32 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T17:44:59 < vampi-the-frog> hey, does anyone here have an USB audio interface with more than 2 channels of input? 2018-06-28T17:45:03 < vampi-the-frog> like 8 or 16 or something like that? 2018-06-28T17:48:04 < srk> :D 2018-06-28T17:49:12 < srk> friend has a focusrite scarlett 18i8 2018-06-28T17:50:03 < vampi-the-frog> nice 2018-06-28T17:50:14 < srk> https://borisgermanov.blogspot.com/2013/07/focusrite-scarlett-2i4-inside.html 2018-06-28T17:50:14 < vampi-the-frog> I'd like to have a look at its USB descriptors 2018-06-28T17:50:49 < srk> TI HC4066 2BAQDCK G4 - Quadruple Bilateral Analog Switches. 2018-06-28T17:50:50 < srk> hmm :D 2018-06-28T17:51:23 < srk> that's a smaller one tho 2018-06-28T17:52:19 < vampi-the-frog> srk: could you ask your friend to run lsusb -v on it? 2018-06-28T17:53:00 < srk> yup 2018-06-28T17:53:48 < vampi-the-frog> thanks 2018-06-28T17:54:00 < vampi-the-frog> perhaps he can pastebin the output 2018-06-28T17:54:06 < srk> sure 2018-06-28T17:54:13 < srk> asked him 2018-06-28T17:54:19 < vampi-the-frog> thanks man 2018-06-28T17:54:34 < vampi-the-frog> I am trying to make something similar with stm32 and I wonder how others implement it 2018-06-28T17:54:38 < vampi-the-frog> that xmos looks nice 2018-06-28T17:55:22 < srk> yeah, same here, would love to have 8 audio channels without paying tons of moneyz 2018-06-28T17:56:08 < vampi-the-frog> well you can get a second hand PCI interface for that 2018-06-28T17:56:41 < vampi-the-frog> I have one like this https://www.esi-audio.com/products/esp1010/ 2018-06-28T17:56:49 < vampi-the-frog> but the thick cable is very bulky 2018-06-28T17:57:56 < vampi-the-frog> what do you think about 6 Clock Blocks http://img.vampi.tech/ad1a2c92.png 2018-06-28T17:58:29 < srk> sounds good (pci ifc) 2018-06-28T18:01:26 < srk> for 95 euros, crazy 2018-06-28T18:05:06 < dongs> https://i.imgur.com/yGCtVcz.jpg logged 1024km on the wheel 2018-06-28T18:06:19 < vampi-the-frog> amazin 2018-06-28T18:06:34 < dongs> 6 cock blocks 2018-06-28T18:06:43 < vampi-the-frog> haha funny joke 2018-06-28T18:07:15 < dongs> heh xmos 2018-06-28T18:07:17 < dongs> what a fucking joke 2018-06-28T18:07:27 < dongs> tehy somehow SEO'd themselves to the top for "usb audio" 2018-06-28T18:07:39 < dongs> and all the retarded newbs slurp it up 2018-06-28T18:08:02 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T18:13:56 < jadew> dongs, what's that? 2018-06-28T18:14:06 < dongs> what's what? xmos? 2018-06-28T18:14:11 < jadew> the screenshot 2018-06-28T18:14:12 < dongs> oi 2018-06-28T18:14:32 < dongs> oh. telemetry shit from my unicycle 2018-06-28T18:14:45 < dongs> so i can look like a total faggot while looking like a total faggot 2018-06-28T18:15:03 < jadew> didn't know that was a thing 2018-06-28T18:15:27 < karlp> heh, some dude goes past me most mornings the other way on one of those "hoverboard" shits 2018-06-28T18:15:37 < karlp> wearing a helmet and everything, with a backpack on. 2018-06-28T18:15:42 < dongs> two weel shits are gay 2018-06-28T18:15:42 < karlp> what a way to commute 2018-06-28T18:15:51 < dongs> ya its awesome actually 2018-06-28T18:16:02 < karlp> some dude went by yesterday near the university on a single bit fatwheel thingy, looked home made. 2018-06-28T18:16:03 < dongs> if I had a job thats what I'd be taking to the office 2018-06-28T18:16:23 < jadew> electric scooters seem to be all the rage here 2018-06-28T18:16:29 < jadew> lots of people use them 2018-06-28T18:16:38 < dongs> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Eunicycle_Trevor_Blackwell.jpg ME_IRL 2018-06-28T18:16:59 < dongs> hm no he has some retarded thing with a seat 2018-06-28T18:17:01 < dongs> mine is jsut a wheel 2018-06-28T18:17:22 < jadew> you can't stand still on it, can you? 2018-06-28T18:17:28 < dongs> what do you mean? 2018-06-28T18:17:30 < dongs> yes you stand on it 2018-06-28T18:17:43 < jadew> without it having to move? 2018-06-28T18:17:53 < dongs> you can sorta balance for short time 2018-06-28T18:18:17 < PaulFertser> Probably can sorta balance for long too if you're skilled like track cyclists? 2018-06-28T18:18:26 -!- [1]MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T18:18:42 < dongs> i dont exactly spend a lot of time standing still on it tho. better be moving 2018-06-28T18:19:02 < dongs> https://www.thebeijinger.com/blog/2014/12/29/beijing-starts-regulation-use-self-balancing-electric-unicycle RIP. they're getting banned in china too 2018-06-28T18:19:08 < dongs> i saw some dude on one last time i was in sz 2018-06-28T18:20:02 < englishman> The electric unicycle has been deemed a major threat 2018-06-28T18:20:06 < dongs> ^_^ 2018-06-28T18:20:15 < dongs> literally hitler 2018-06-28T18:20:15 < englishman> no hyperbole 2018-06-28T18:20:38 < vampi-the-frog> gay 2018-06-28T18:20:45 < dongs> 100% 2018-06-28T18:21:00 < vampi-the-frog> I had a look at the xmos datasheet 2018-06-28T18:21:10 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wjhjsnvznxvsnazb] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-28T18:21:12 < dongs> why would you even bother. 2018-06-28T18:21:17 -!- MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-28T18:21:18 -!- [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius 2018-06-28T18:21:20 < vampi-the-frog> it looks like it has less peripherals than an F4 but more CPU power 2018-06-28T18:21:20 < dongs> xmos is not the answer, regardless of what the question is 2018-06-28T18:21:35 < vampi-the-frog> well it depends on how many USB endpoints it allows 2018-06-28T18:21:39 < jadew> oh they have two additional wheels for stability 2018-06-28T18:21:51 < dongs> you can buy training wheels for the shit yeah. 2018-06-28T18:21:52 < vampi-the-frog> the F407 supports 5 endpoints 2018-06-28T18:22:06 < Laurenceb> lul xmos 2018-06-28T18:22:08 < vampi-the-frog> not sure how I can use them though, I'd like to be able to record 8 stereo channels 2018-06-28T18:22:13 < Laurenceb> a core for all the things 2018-06-28T18:22:20 < dongs> proppeller 2.0 2018-06-28T18:22:24 < vampi-the-frog> I am thinking I can split them in 4 endpoints with 4 channels each 2018-06-28T18:22:41 < vampi-the-frog> but that's why I want to look at other USB audio interfaces, to see how their descriptors look 2018-06-28T18:22:47 < Laurenceb> >they cant be bothered to write verilog/VHDl 2018-06-28T18:22:53 < Laurenceb> >just copypasta a core 2018-06-28T18:23:19 < vampi-the-frog> >haha I am talking like 4chan 2018-06-28T18:23:20 < englishman> put in a genesys usb hub and put 8 stm32 on the board 2018-06-28T18:23:28 < dongs> ^^^^ 2018-06-28T18:23:39 < vampi-the-frog> maybe 2018-06-28T18:23:42 < vampi-the-frog> but maybe not 2018-06-28T18:23:43 < dongs> (dont do that) 2018-06-28T18:23:58 < englishman> just dont put in a cypress usb hum 2018-06-28T18:24:00 < englishman> hub 2018-06-28T18:24:16 < dongs> or R2COM will spy on you 2018-06-28T18:24:24 < englishman> more like 2018-06-28T18:24:31 < englishman> you will have to call cypress tech support 2018-06-28T18:24:35 < vampi-the-frog> does anyone have experience with this? 2018-06-28T18:24:36 < englishman> because there is undoc'd errata 2018-06-28T18:24:39 < vampi-the-frog> using up all the endpoints? 2018-06-28T18:24:44 < englishman> and r2com will call you a faggot over the phone 2018-06-28T18:24:45 < dongs> zyp probably does 2018-06-28T18:25:14 < Laurenceb> >implying vampi-the-frog isn't incel 2018-06-28T18:25:42 < vampi-the-frog> I am thinking, theoretically I can use those endpoints any way I want 2018-06-28T18:25:49 < dongs> http://ebrombaugh.studionebula.com/synth/stm32_4chl/index.html emeb did this 2018-06-28T18:25:49 < vampi-the-frog> but I think I am restricted by the USB Audio spec 2018-06-28T18:27:01 < Laurenceb> heh this sounds like muh gui 2018-06-28T18:27:18 * Laurenceb now has >250 channel audio 2018-06-28T18:27:37 < Laurenceb> muh channelz 2018-06-28T18:29:46 < vampi-the-frog> doesn't have source? 2018-06-28T18:29:57 < Laurenceb> I used cube 2018-06-28T18:30:14 < Laurenceb> with F0, then loads of them 2018-06-28T18:30:18 < Laurenceb> its for data collection 2018-06-28T18:30:33 < Laurenceb> ten channels per micro 2018-06-28T18:30:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T18:30:43 < vampi-the-frog> and USB? 2018-06-28T18:31:11 < Laurenceb> multi-TT usb hubs 2018-06-28T18:31:16 < dongs> vampi-the-frog: looks ilke scarlett is not usb audio class 2018-06-28T18:31:17 < Laurenceb> so 480 to the pc 2018-06-28T18:31:33 < vampi-the-frog> dongs: so custom class and custom driver? 2018-06-28T18:31:36 < dongs> y 2018-06-28T18:31:48 < vampi-the-frog> interesting 2018-06-28T18:31:57 < vampi-the-frog> I have something similar, the MOTU midi express 128 2018-06-28T18:32:03 < vampi-the-frog> uses a custom driver and is windows only 2018-06-28T18:32:10 < dongs> yeah i have some retarded fucking roland USBmidi thing 2018-06-28T18:32:14 < dongs> and its not USB midi class 2018-06-28T18:32:20 < vampi-the-frog> I wrote an ALSA user space driver 2018-06-28T18:32:22 < dongs> and no 64shit drivers 2018-06-28T18:32:27 < vampi-the-frog> it uses interrupt endpoints instead of bulk 2018-06-28T18:32:28 < dongs> RIP 2018-06-28T18:32:40 < vampi-the-frog> I am sure it's possible to write drivers for windows and linux 2018-06-28T18:32:47 < vampi-the-frog> though you'd need to be motivated to do so 2018-06-28T18:32:50 < vampi-the-frog> nobody's paying you :P 2018-06-28T18:32:53 < Laurenceb> it's not that nasty using libusb 2018-06-28T18:33:05 < vampi-the-frog> yeah I used libusb 2018-06-28T18:33:07 < vampi-the-frog> it's fine 2018-06-28T18:33:24 < Laurenceb> but my sensors are standard, so no libusb 2018-06-28T18:33:25 < vampi-the-frog> i reverse engineered the protocol and slapped together a libusb + alsa seq program 2018-06-28T18:33:39 < Laurenceb> yeah I'm just using alsa 2018-06-28T18:33:50 < dongs> oh roland has updated version for win8/8.1 2018-06-28T18:33:51 < vampi-the-frog> what do you mean standard? 2018-06-28T18:33:57 < Laurenceb> UAC 2018-06-28T18:34:02 < vampi-the-frog> dongs: good news :P 2018-06-28T18:34:19 < vampi-the-frog> so you're using audio class for sensors? 2018-06-28T18:34:21 < dongs> nah, its same shit. they're unsigned 2018-06-28T18:34:27 < dongs> fucking useless. 2018-06-28T18:34:43 < dongs> > roland supplying unsigned 64bit drivers 2018-06-28T18:34:55 < vampi-the-frog> well you can a) write a driver yourself, b) hire someone to write one or c) get a newer device 2018-06-28T18:35:11 < dongs> or just use it in win7vm like i have been 2018-06-28T18:35:21 < Laurenceb> https://pastebin.com/5PgkKTTN 2018-06-28T18:35:23 < vampi-the-frog> yeah I guess 2018-06-28T18:35:40 < Laurenceb> vampi-the-frog: yes 2018-06-28T18:36:26 < vampi-the-frog> you're using one interface with 10 channels and 1 endpoint? 2018-06-28T18:36:35 < Laurenceb> yes 2018-06-28T18:36:55 < vampi-the-frog> ok I see 2018-06-28T18:37:02 < Laurenceb> then I create a composite device in alsa with a bazillion channels 2018-06-28T18:37:15 < Laurenceb> and they all stay synchronised :D 2018-06-28T18:37:37 < dongs> (he uses audacity with all that shit 2018-06-28T18:37:55 < Laurenceb> nah I'm working on le epin gui 2018-06-28T18:38:06 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T18:38:08 < Laurenceb> but it suffers from segfault 2018-06-28T18:38:16 < dongs> damn just zoomed in on the pics of that usb audio thing PCBs from focusrite 2018-06-28T18:38:19 < dongs> wtf such ugly layout 2018-06-28T18:38:28 < dongs> not surprised TOO MUCH cuz xmos but still 2018-06-28T18:38:29 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T18:39:07 < dongs> also no socketed opamps fuck off 2018-06-28T18:39:17 < dongs> disqualified 2018-06-28T18:39:28 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-28T18:40:14 < vampi-the-frog> I gotta go, cyaz l8r 2018-06-28T18:41:02 < Laurenceb> b24chan 2018-06-28T18:44:12 < englishman> psoc for me, psoc for you 2018-06-28T18:44:12 < englishman> i love psoc, turns your brain into goo 2018-06-28T18:44:22 < englishman> psocs for me, psocs for free 2018-06-28T18:44:22 < englishman> working with psoc brings me absolute glee 2018-06-28T18:44:36 < englishman> psocs for me, flexible peripherals 2018-06-28T18:44:36 < englishman> togglin some ios to deliver those medicinals 2018-06-28T18:44:46 < englishman> psocs for me, psoc for life 2018-06-28T18:44:46 < englishman> if i have to touch another cypress part, slash my throat with a knife 2018-06-28T18:46:33 < Thorn> emergency cat supply for englishman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I3-P5lnSAY 2018-06-28T18:46:41 < dongs> not clicking 2018-06-28T18:46:51 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-28T18:54:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-28T18:58:53 < Laurenceb> accurate https://imgoat.com/uploads/a4fb5c6e93/119775.jpg 2018-06-28T19:01:33 < kakimir> anyone done active mcu voltage changing? 2018-06-28T19:01:42 < kakimir> supply voltage chage 2018-06-28T19:01:52 < kakimir> what I'm thinking 2018-06-28T19:02:34 < kakimir> to improve weak ADC signal without amplification 2018-06-28T19:02:42 < Laurenceb> wut 2018-06-28T19:02:42 < kakimir> by changing voltages during measurement 2018-06-28T19:02:44 < Laurenceb> wut 2018-06-28T19:02:55 < kakimir> Vref = Vcc 2018-06-28T19:03:09 < Laurenceb> you realise the core runs off its own ldo 2018-06-28T19:03:16 < kakimir> I have really small signal comming from hall sensor 2018-06-28T19:03:25 < Laurenceb> apart from on the parts with v_core or whatever its called 2018-06-28T19:03:29 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-28T19:03:31 < Laurenceb> use an amp 2018-06-28T19:03:43 < kakimir> it's a bit kinky 2018-06-28T19:03:49 < kakimir> I don't have ref pin in my hall 2018-06-28T19:03:57 < kakimir> like.. why 2018-06-28T19:04:09 < kakimir> so I need to have referrence voltage source 2018-06-28T19:04:11 < kakimir> and amp 2018-06-28T19:08:22 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T19:09:28 < karlp> I considered it, never got around to actually trying it out though. 2018-06-28T19:12:05 < kakimir> 1.8volt would be ideal to switch to 2018-06-28T19:12:13 < kakimir> hey.. 2018-06-28T19:12:23 < kakimir> I2C sensor I use 2018-06-28T19:12:30 < kakimir> is basically 3volt sensor 2018-06-28T19:12:52 < kakimir> it's powered and pullups are powered from 3v3 2018-06-28T19:13:10 < kakimir> what if I just add one regulator for 1v8 2018-06-28T19:13:15 < kakimir> and run mcu from it 2018-06-28T19:14:09 < dongs> NODEMCU 2018-06-28T19:14:38 < kakimir> I bet 1.8V can drive fet gates as well as 3v3 2018-06-28T19:15:43 -!- jef79m [~jef79m@220-235-203-43.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T19:16:52 < kakimir> this might be the solution 2018-06-28T19:17:22 < kakimir> I throw 10mV/G hall there and drop Vref from 3v3 to 1v8 2018-06-28T19:20:07 < mawk> why is there a free 1 byte register in the CRC unit 2018-06-28T19:20:19 < mawk> who will ever use that 2018-06-28T19:20:29 < dongs> people who have something to hide 2018-06-28T19:20:36 < mawk> lol 2018-06-28T19:20:44 < kakimir> ##stm32 2018-06-28T19:20:58 < kakimir> make some free registers all over the place 2018-06-28T19:21:18 < dongs> is USB endpoint ram addressable? thats a lot of wasted space too 2018-06-28T19:22:39 < aandrew> mawk: there are some weird persistent registers in UICR on Nordic nrf51; I use it in bootloader to tell if the application wants me to stay in bootloader mode or not, and also as a boot counter to know whent he application's bugging out 2018-06-28T19:22:50 < aandrew> 3 watchdog resets and I stay in bootloader so you can reflash your shit 2018-06-28T19:23:37 < dongs> do you fuck with linker stuff to put watchdog init very early in boot/flash space? 2018-06-28T19:23:46 < dongs> in case userspace flash fails or something 2018-06-28T19:24:01 < dongs> or wait, init wd from bootloader right 2018-06-28T19:24:06 < mawk> I see aandrew 2018-06-28T19:24:24 < mawk> here I have a "reset reason" register to do that I believe 2018-06-28T19:24:26 < dongs> i think im gonna steal that concept 2018-06-28T19:24:44 < mawk> but I don't do that, I just check if USER_BUTTON is pushed at boot, if yes flash the thing, if no boot properly 2018-06-28T19:26:09 < aandrew> dongs: nope, not on nrf51 anyway. UICR has a register that is meant for this kind of shit 2018-06-28T19:26:36 < aandrew> mawk: yes in nrf51 as well. I use it with the counter I set up in UICR to count how many watchdog resets occured 2018-06-28T19:26:49 < aandrew> I didn't want to stick in bootloader due to one watchdog because sometimes shit happens 2018-06-28T19:26:56 < aandrew> but if it keeps happenning, something's wrong 2018-06-28T19:27:08 < aandrew> I did something similar iwth an old FPGA design 2018-06-28T19:27:31 < karlp> hrm, nice idea to count watchdog resets and then just stay there. 2018-06-28T19:27:44 < aandrew> I had two bitfiles in the flash; one that was a factory image that never changed, and an upgradeable image. if the upgradeable image ever lost its brains I'd load the factory one which didn't do much but at least let me update the image again over PCIe 2018-06-28T19:27:55 < karlp> though, if something watchdogs onece a week, it becomes "dies after three weeks" vs "works just fine, never noticved" 2018-06-28T19:28:18 < dongs> karlp: you can clear the counter at successful boot of userspace 2018-06-28T19:28:33 < karlp> yeah, but "successful boot of userspace" is somewhat problematic sometimes. 2018-06-28T19:28:37 < dongs> Right 2018-06-28T19:28:45 < dongs> i'm always wondering waht happens with a half-failed flash 2018-06-28T19:28:48 < dongs> like you got 60k of firmware 2018-06-28T19:28:54 < dongs> 32k gets written and dumb user powers off. 2018-06-28T19:29:00 < karlp> I considered flashing from the rear first for that 2018-06-28T19:29:03 < dongs> and your 'poke successful userspace" code is in the 1st 32k 2018-06-28T19:29:04 < aandrew> dongs: that's why the bootloader protects you 2018-06-28T19:29:19 < dongs> aandrew: yea but its not just that 2018-06-28T19:29:22 < aandrew> dongs: at least with my bootloader what I do is CRC the app image and compare it with my config block at the end of flash 2018-06-28T19:29:27 < aandrew> if the CRC doesn't match, stick in bootloader 2018-06-28T19:29:42 < dongs> yeah i should really do that 2018-06-28T19:29:43 < aandrew> app image is actually image+header 2018-06-28T19:29:45 < mawk> I did some combination of that as well 2018-06-28T19:30:06 < mawk> at the end of transfer check if CRC is valid, and if it is stick the address of user code in eeprom 2018-06-28T19:30:13 < aandrew> the reflash procedure is "tell bootloader to zap app(+header), transfer image to app, transfer header, reboot 2018-06-28T19:30:18 < mawk> and at normal boot the bootloader gets the address from eeprom and boot from it 2018-06-28T19:30:23 < karlp> I made mine not boot autotamtically on flash complete, 2018-06-28T19:30:38 < karlp> the host program asks it to crc and verifies what it thought it wrote. 2018-06-28T19:30:55 < aandrew> so partial flash = no header. bad flash = header crc mismatch. good flash = header crc match, set "not in bootloader mode" flag and jump to application 2018-06-28T19:31:10 < dongs> karlp: i cant realyl do that cuz my bootlaoder simulates stm32 bl protocol 2018-06-28T19:31:32 < dongs> but it sticks newimage into spi flash 2018-06-28T19:31:42 < aandrew> this is Cortex M0 so no remappable vector, so I have a very very small IVR where there's only a UART handler and everything else checks a bootloader flag and jumps to app IVR table 2018-06-28T19:31:48 < dongs> and sets a flag (copy spi>flash) and resets 2018-06-28T19:32:02 < mawk> what do you mean by no remappable vector aandrew ? 2018-06-28T19:32:13 < karlp> he means that cortex m0 is shit and should be shot 2018-06-28T19:32:16 < dongs> M0 doesn't have SCB->CTOR 2018-06-28T19:32:17 < mawk> lol 2018-06-28T19:32:18 < karlp> all hail m0+ and above 2018-06-28T19:32:20 < dongs> or VTOR or wahtever 2018-06-28T19:32:22 < mawk> VTOR yeah 2018-06-28T19:32:36 < mawk> so you write the applications' vector over yours right before boot ? 2018-06-28T19:32:40 < aandrew> https://pastebin.com/XUmTV0GY is my m0 bootloader ISR code 2018-06-28T19:32:44 < aandrew> hell no 2018-06-28T19:32:54 < aandrew> bootloader never ever ever ever gets overwritten 2018-06-28T19:33:08 < aandrew> in fact after bootloader is flashed, the protection regs are set and even jlink can't erase it 2018-06-28T19:33:17 < mawk> ah I see what you do 2018-06-28T19:33:26 < aandrew> you have to execute a few writes to NVMC to blow away all flash (including bootloader0 2018-06-28T19:33:38 < mawk> doesn't it add a somewhat big overhead ? 2018-06-28T19:33:45 < zyp> aandrew, dongs love that trick 2018-06-28T19:33:45 < aandrew> not big no 2018-06-28T19:34:30 < aandrew> it's 9 instructions 2018-06-28T19:35:23 < zyp> non-upgradeable bootloaders are fun, mine are also like that 2018-06-28T19:35:55 < aandrew> they're necessary evils unless you have hardware support 2018-06-28T19:36:04 < zyp> first batch of devices I shipped had a bug in the protocol, didn't discover it until I made the first firmware upgrade for it 2018-06-28T19:36:20 < zyp> that was fun 2018-06-28T19:36:40 < srk> aandrew: otherwise ppl will blow the bootloaders and complain? 2018-06-28T19:36:45 < mawk> can't you devise a firmware update that will upgrade the bootloader ? 2018-06-28T19:36:51 < zyp> mawk, that's what I did 2018-06-28T19:36:54 < mawk> nice 2018-06-28T19:37:02 < aandrew> srk: exactly 2018-06-28T19:37:08 < srk> heh :) 2018-06-28T19:37:10 < aandrew> mawk: with proper hardware support, yes 2018-06-28T19:37:18 < aandrew> M0 does not have this support 2018-06-28T19:37:23 < mawk> like by resetting to SRAM and writing the new bootloader from here 2018-06-28T19:37:35 < aandrew> mawk: that is not safe 2018-06-28T19:37:51 < dongs> the bootloader-update-firmware is simply userspace with bootloader.bin embedded init 2018-06-28T19:37:54 < aandrew> mawk: you're executing from RAM, blow away flash and then lose power or have a corrupted write 2018-06-28T19:38:02 < dongs> that flashes it into BL area on next reset, tehn erases userspace 2018-06-28T19:38:09 < dongs> so you go back to bootloader waiting for update 2018-06-28T19:38:40 < aandrew> dongs: cant' do that on nrf51; there are two regions in flash with a programmable demarcation. you can protect region 0 or both region 0+1, and by the same token you can erase region 1 or the entire device 2018-06-28T19:38:53 < dongs> ya sure i mean in general 2018-06-28T19:38:55 < dongs> fuck M0 2018-06-28T19:39:12 < aandrew> some hardware allows you to do that kind of thing, and other hardware allows you to program where it looks on reboot (even a cold power on) 2018-06-28T19:39:17 < aandrew> that works great for fully upgradeable systems 2018-06-28T19:39:54 < zyp> aandrew, well, I originally didn't mean to have the bootloader upgradable, for that risk of bricking, but then I needed to upgrade it anyway 2018-06-28T19:40:54 < zyp> so I made a bootloaderloader to be written as a normal app firmware, and when it runs, it starts by doing a bunch of selftests 2018-06-28T19:41:06 < dongs> any trick to do real self-updating bootloader? have an update procedure thats in RAM or something? 2018-06-28T19:41:45 < zyp> then if tests pass, it unlocks flash, erases original bootloader, writes new bootloader, then erases itself so it won't run more than once 2018-06-28T19:42:31 < zyp> the time spent erasing and writing flash is only a couple of milliseconds, so interrupting it with a power loss is pretty bad luck or deliberate 2018-06-28T19:43:03 < zyp> and a power loss at any other time is harmless 2018-06-28T19:43:04 < mawk> dongs: maybe have an update package sit next to the bootloader code 2018-06-28T19:43:24 < mawk> well not update package, just plain code 2018-06-28T19:43:34 < mawk> one immutable part, one upgradable part 2018-06-28T19:44:16 < zyp> dongs, to have a recoverable thing, you'd need to have two images and a mechanism to pick the best valid one of the two 2018-06-28T19:44:42 < zyp> either hardware support, as some chips have, or an immutable first stage bootloader in front of it 2018-06-28T19:45:33 < zyp> if you're going that way, you can build the bootloader into the application itself, and just keep two application images, then always write the inactive one 2018-06-28T19:48:09 < englishman> like android 2018-06-28T19:49:23 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T19:56:06 < aandrew> dongs: unless your hardware has a way to boot another flash region in the case of a failed flash, not that I'm aware of 2018-06-28T19:56:26 < aandrew> because you're vulnerable the moment you erase the bootloader 2018-06-28T19:56:40 < dongs> sure yeah 2018-06-28T19:57:04 < aandrew> I never liked the method of splitting flash in half; it seems wasteful 2018-06-28T19:58:13 < zyp> depends entirely on application 2018-06-28T19:59:12 < zyp> if bootloader can share a significant amount of code with the application firmware (e.g. a full network stack), it might more sense 2018-06-28T19:59:43 < zyp> you either end up with a network stack in bootloader and a network stack in application, or two application images with everything included 2018-06-28T20:02:12 < englishman> another reason to get GD32 parts. with 3MB flash on cheap parts 2018-06-28T20:03:10 < aandrew> yeah there are a dozen ways to slice this particualr pie 2018-06-28T20:04:03 < dongs> use nuttx 2018-06-28T20:04:22 < dongs> then your bootloader is just some shit like /dev/buttload 2018-06-28T20:07:11 < aandrew> heh 2018-06-28T20:08:00 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T20:08:09 < aandrew> hm I just noticed a bug in my ISR code 2018-06-28T20:08:15 < aandrew> if I get a spurious interrupt I'll lock up 2018-06-28T20:08:30 < aandrew> instead of 'b forever' I should issue a sw reset 2018-06-28T20:11:11 < Thorn> a reset loop isn't much better lol 2018-06-28T20:12:07 < zyp> deadlocking is better for debugging 2018-06-28T20:12:19 < zyp> but resetting might recover 2018-06-28T20:14:21 < aandrew> well a spurious interrupt is a rare event, probably cosmic ray or other weird shit 2018-06-28T20:32:26 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-28T20:34:59 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T20:42:54 < kakimir> extent of my project starts to become clear to me 2018-06-28T20:43:03 < kakimir> started splitting mainfile into headers and sources 2018-06-28T20:43:39 < kakimir> half of the mainfile is processed and I have 28 inc and 27 src 2018-06-28T20:44:45 < dongs> you should rename main.c to autism.c 2018-06-28T20:47:33 < englishman> no free raspberry pi 3 B+ at ARROW for canadians 2018-06-28T20:52:24 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T20:58:13 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T21:02:05 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-28T21:08:08 < Laurenceb> any lunix guys here? 2018-06-28T21:08:14 < Laurenceb> gpsd is failing again :( 2018-06-28T21:08:16 < Laurenceb> systemd[1]: Dependency failed for GPS (Global P 2018-06-28T21:08:16 < Rickta59> dongs i think 2018-06-28T21:08:20 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-28T21:08:58 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T21:09:00 < Rickta59> disabled ipv6 on loopback? 2018-06-28T21:09:16 < Laurenceb> what does that mean? 2018-06-28T21:09:39 < Rickta59> i'm just googling .. usually linux solutions have the message you are getting and a solution or not 2018-06-28T21:09:39 < Laurenceb> I have to re-enable it? 2018-06-28T21:09:42 < Laurenceb> ok 2018-06-28T21:09:54 < Rickta59> that was like the second hit 2018-06-28T21:11:58 < Rickta59> systemd is something i've not taken any time to learn however it seems to have successfully infected all distros 2018-06-28T21:12:35 -!- enh [~enhering@200.149.13.230] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-28T21:13:00 < Rickta59> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page 2018-06-28T21:15:31 < dongs> that entire page should just be replaced with "isntall windows, problem solved" 2018-06-28T21:15:54 < Rickta59> is install windows 10 and turn on ads? 2018-06-28T21:16:13 < dongs> ive never seen any ads in windows 10 2018-06-28T21:16:32 < Rickta59> me neither :) 2018-06-28T21:16:52 < Rickta59> you've probably never seen systemd message either 2018-06-28T21:20:30 < dongs> systemd developed an in-kernel D-Bus implementation, kdbus.[4] They tried to get it merged into the kernel, failed, and are now trying again with BUS1.[5] 2018-06-28T21:20:33 < dongs> haha, lunix trash 2018-06-28T21:27:52 -!- Cracki [~Cracki@unaffiliated/crackwitz] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T21:30:02 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T21:39:20 < Steffanx> Congratz dongs. 2018-06-28T21:39:59 < Steffanx> Jappyland is going to be Weltmeister 2018-06-28T21:40:31 < aandrew> why the fuck would you put dbus in the kernel 2018-06-28T21:40:34 < aandrew> for what purpose 2018-06-28T21:41:54 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T21:42:00 < Steffanx> For the purpose of dbussing.. 2018-06-28T21:43:17 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T21:43:21 < Laurenceb> reeee 2018-06-28T21:43:29 < Laurenceb> segfault central 2018-06-28T21:43:37 < Laurenceb> cant even get on to fixing muh gpsd 2018-06-28T21:44:15 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-28T21:44:24 < vampi-the-frog> I think open source is for losers 2018-06-28T21:49:02 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-28T21:49:29 < vampi-the-frog> if your software is worth anything, just ask for the value in money 2018-06-28T21:50:11 < Laurenceb> the memes are real https://imgoat.com/uploads/a4fb5c6e93/119823.png 2018-06-28T21:51:12 < vampi-the-frog> "I am Eric, an avid Open Source contributor" 2018-06-28T21:51:20 < Laurenceb> ^ accurate 2018-06-28T21:52:35 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T21:58:42 < Laurenceb> ok back to systemd 2018-06-28T21:58:46 < Laurenceb> the fun never ends 2018-06-28T22:13:11 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has quit [Quit: tairaeza] 2018-06-28T22:17:37 < vampi-the-frog> okay so if I were to record all 16 channels at High Speed, a .125ms frame would require 576 bytes for 24bit/96kHz 2018-06-28T22:19:19 < Cracki> wat 2018-06-28T22:19:52 < Cracki> 24/8 * 96e3 * 0.125e-3 2018-06-28T22:19:54 < vampi-the-frog> I'm trying to make a 16ch 24b 96kHz audio interface 2018-06-28T22:20:01 < Cracki> 24/8 * 96e3 * 0.125e-3 * 16 = 576 2018-06-28T22:20:06 < Cracki> but whyy? 2018-06-28T22:20:13 < vampi-the-frog> why not 2018-06-28T22:20:13 < Cracki> can't you just... buy that? 2018-06-28T22:20:20 < vampi-the-frog> more fun like this 2018-06-28T22:20:40 < Cracki> are you getting paid for this or is that gonna be "open source"? 2018-06-28T22:21:04 < vampi-the-frog> good question 2018-06-28T22:21:07 < c10ud> adc channels? 2018-06-28T22:21:49 < vampi-the-frog> I'll use https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PCM1808-105dB-SNR-Audio-Stereo-ADC-Single-Ended-Analog-Input-Decoder-24bit-Amplifier-Board-Player-Module/32777376004.html 2018-06-28T22:22:04 < Cracki> show me your analog frontend. 24 bits is likely not of any use to you 2018-06-28T22:22:29 < Cracki> 105 dB? that's a promise nobody on aliex should ever make 2018-06-28T22:22:44 < vampi-the-frog> it's probably from the datasheet 2018-06-28T22:22:47 < vampi-the-frog> it's a burr brown component 2018-06-28T22:23:05 < Cracki> i see caps, I don't see inductors 2018-06-28T22:23:17 < vampi-the-frog> actually from the picture it looks like a counterfeit, no BB logo 2018-06-28T22:23:25 < vampi-the-frog> what would you need the inductors for? 2018-06-28T22:24:11 < c10ud> filtering the vdd 2018-06-28T22:24:23 < c10ud> btw single ended... mmm 2018-06-28T22:24:25 < vampi-the-frog> I don't mind going for a lower sample rate and bit depth 2018-06-28T22:24:39 < aandrew> hahahaha I bet that board doesn't get better than 10 bits of useful data 2018-06-28T22:25:30 < Cracki> 10 bits is about -60 dB noise floor 2018-06-28T22:25:39 < c10ud> also you will need 16 spis? 2018-06-28T22:25:41 < vampi-the-frog> let's see 16bit / 8 * 48kHz / 1000 * .125 * 16 = 192B 2018-06-28T22:25:52 < vampi-the-frog> I will use DMA to read them all at once 2018-06-28T22:25:52 < Cracki> your math looks horrible 2018-06-28T22:26:09 < vampi-the-frog> and deinterlace in software before sending through endpoint 2018-06-28T22:26:14 < vampi-the-frog> I've done that before 2018-06-28T22:26:29 < vampi-the-frog> on an 8-bit port 2018-06-28T22:26:31 < aandrew> big electrolytic caps, little to no bypass, 2 layer board.. yeah you're looking at a whole whack of bits being noise 2018-06-28T22:26:31 < Cracki> "deinterlace"? it's not planar audio, of course all channels are packed into one frame 2018-06-28T22:26:37 < Cracki> or what? 2018-06-28T22:26:39 < vampi-the-frog> ok so 2018-06-28T22:26:46 < vampi-the-frog> each of the ADC outputs I2S 2018-06-28T22:26:52 < vampi-the-frog> so I can use 8 stereo ADCs 2018-06-28T22:27:02 < vampi-the-frog> and set them in slave mode and use the micro's clock 2018-06-28T22:27:08 < Cracki> uh 2018-06-28T22:27:20 < vampi-the-frog> and sample an 8 bit bus (PD0-PD7) with DMA 2018-06-28T22:27:21 < Cracki> do you mean to hook them all up to a single bus? 2018-06-28T22:27:24 < vampi-the-frog> yes 2018-06-28T22:27:28 < Cracki> bad idea 2018-06-28T22:27:30 < vampi-the-frog> why 2018-06-28T22:27:35 < Cracki> read the data shiet 2018-06-28T22:27:39 < Cracki> do they even support that 2018-06-28T22:27:42 < Cracki> i2s, not i2c or spi 2018-06-28T22:27:47 < vampi-the-frog> again 2018-06-28T22:27:49 < Cracki> i2s might assume point to point 2018-06-28T22:27:57 < vampi-the-frog> what's point to point? 2018-06-28T22:27:58 < Laurenceb> >thought it was quiet 2018-06-28T22:28:06 < Laurenceb> >Bongland losing 2018-06-28T22:28:13 < Cracki> point to point means single sender 2018-06-28T22:28:19 < Cracki> per direction 2018-06-28T22:28:32 < Cracki> a bus means multiple senders 2018-06-28T22:28:36 < Cracki> that share a medium (the wire) 2018-06-28T22:28:42 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/gallery/Rbl5Y13 2018-06-28T22:28:43 < aandrew> a lot of i2s peripherals support TDM modes 2018-06-28T22:28:43 < kakimir> #future 2018-06-28T22:28:56 < vampi-the-frog> ok so I have 8 DACs 2018-06-28T22:29:05 < kakimir> is there any better drones than once that reproduce by themselfs 2018-06-28T22:29:09 < kakimir> ones* 2018-06-28T22:29:12 < Cracki> with i2s, the data rate of a single source is commonly high enough that it will take 100% of the time of the bus 2018-06-28T22:29:27 < vampi-the-frog> and they output, let's say 16 bits of info, then 16 more 2018-06-28T22:29:33 < vampi-the-frog> so I am sampling with every bit 2018-06-28T22:29:44 < vampi-the-frog> and then I have a buffer with 32 bytes 2018-06-28T22:29:56 < vampi-the-frog> and each bit represents one of the ADCs 2018-06-28T22:30:09 < vampi-the-frog> so the sample data is spread across 32 bytes, in a particular bit for each ADC 2018-06-28T22:30:16 < vampi-the-frog> I am sampling similar to a logic probe 2018-06-28T22:30:42 < Cracki> hah vending machines for crows good idea 2018-06-28T22:31:11 < Cracki> vampi-the-frog, did you lick a frog or something 2018-06-28T22:31:20 < vampi-the-frog> did you understand my plan? 2018-06-28T22:31:28 < vampi-the-frog> I am making up for the fact that I don't have 8 I2S peripherals 2018-06-28T22:31:35 < Cracki> I see no reason to do it like that 2018-06-28T22:31:42 < vampi-the-frog> how else would you do it? 2018-06-28T22:32:05 < Cracki> ah I thought you had enough i2s peripherals 2018-06-28T22:32:15 < Cracki> so it's bitbang+dma? 2018-06-28T22:32:28 < vampi-the-frog> yeah I guess you could use the term bitbang 2018-06-28T22:32:33 < Cracki> it's bitbang. 2018-06-28T22:32:34 < vampi-the-frog> sort of advanced parallel bit bang 2018-06-28T22:32:39 < vampi-the-frog> bit gang bang if you will 2018-06-28T22:33:03 < Cracki> so you attach them all to a port, send them all the same clock, and read the whole port at once, and then you have to transpose the bits 2018-06-28T22:33:12 < vampi-the-frog> precisely 2018-06-28T22:33:13 < Cracki> ic 2018-06-28T22:33:28 < vampi-the-frog> I've done something similar with a stereo serial signal 2018-06-28T22:33:37 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-28T22:33:45 < vampi-the-frog> there were 2 signals, one for L and one for R 2018-06-28T22:33:51 < Cracki> check if there's a transpose instruction... for when you have 8 bytes (in however many registers), and want the bits transposed 2018-06-28T22:33:51 < vampi-the-frog> I think it was 18 bits or so 2018-06-28T22:34:04 < vampi-the-frog> you think that exists? 2018-06-28T22:34:07 < Cracki> perhaps 2018-06-28T22:34:14 < Cracki> if you have an stm32 with dsp stuff in it 2018-06-28T22:34:32 < vampi-the-frog> I'll try with plain C for now, see how she goes 2018-06-28T22:34:39 < Cracki> sure 2018-06-28T22:34:42 < Cracki> just a thought 2018-06-28T22:34:49 < vampi-the-frog> I also did something similar with UART 2018-06-28T22:35:04 < c10ud> an m4 should be just enough, but you need high speed usb 2018-06-28T22:35:17 < Cracki> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2243985/bitwise-transpose-of-8-bytes 2018-06-28T22:35:25 < c10ud> however, I don't think you should buy aliexpress boards for this 2018-06-28T22:35:30 < vampi-the-frog> why not? 2018-06-28T22:35:38 < vampi-the-frog> well, it should do for testing 2018-06-28T22:35:50 < Cracki> 96 khz * 24 bits * 16 channels = 37 Mbit/s 2018-06-28T22:35:51 < vampi-the-frog> eventually I'll actually make a PCB and populate it and whatnot 2018-06-28T22:36:07 < vampi-the-frog> 37MBit would fit in Full Speed 2018-06-28T22:36:27 < Cracki> full speed was 12 Mbit/s wasn't it 2018-06-28T22:36:34 < vampi-the-frog> oh right :< 2018-06-28T22:36:46 < Cracki> what did you think it was 2018-06-28T22:36:47 < vampi-the-frog> well my plan is to use one of those ULPI chippies 2018-06-28T22:36:51 < vampi-the-frog> I thought it was 48 2018-06-28T22:37:05 < Cracki> 48 something might be the usb clock crystal 2018-06-28T22:37:15 < vampi-the-frog> yeah that's right 2018-06-28T22:37:19 < c10ud> should do for testing yes if you can bear waiting months for the chip to arrive 2018-06-28T22:37:36 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-28T22:37:38 < vampi-the-frog> I already have an ADC for now 2018-06-28T22:37:55 < vampi-the-frog> one of these https://www.aliexpress.com/item/PCM1802-Audio-Stereo-A-D-Converter-ADC-Decoder-24bit-96kHz-Digital-PCM-AV-Amplifier-Player-Board/32830756646.html 2018-06-28T22:38:11 < vampi-the-frog> the other one has slightly better specs 2018-06-28T22:39:07 < c10ud> btw I sort of did a thing like this, with PDM microphones 2018-06-28T22:39:38 < c10ud> iirc I was sampling with a 1mhz timer and then deinterleaving channels 2018-06-28T22:39:42 < c10ud> something like that 2018-06-28T22:39:44 < vampi-the-frog> yeah 2018-06-28T22:39:48 < vampi-the-frog> it should work 2018-06-28T22:39:55 < c10ud> with dma is smooth sailing 2018-06-28T22:40:04 < vampi-the-frog> DMA is great once you make friends with it 2018-06-28T22:40:15 < c10ud> also 96khz is very slow so I think you'll have it easy 2018-06-28T22:40:24 < c10ud> the hard part will be doing USB 2018-06-28T22:40:28 < c10ud> but that's just me 2018-06-28T22:40:33 < vampi-the-frog> well it's 96000 * 24 * 2 2018-06-28T22:40:45 < vampi-the-frog> so 4.6MHz 2018-06-28T22:40:56 < vampi-the-frog> that'll be the I2S clock 2018-06-28T22:41:03 < vampi-the-frog> and the sampling speed as well 2018-06-28T22:41:13 < vampi-the-frog> I can use double buffering too 2018-06-28T22:41:22 < vampi-the-frog> well, the DMA sampling speed is what I mean 2018-06-28T22:41:26 < c10ud> ah right right sorry 2018-06-28T22:42:10 < c10ud> well in my case it didn't use much cpu anyway 2018-06-28T22:42:21 < vampi-the-frog> ok so now 2018-06-28T22:42:23 < vampi-the-frog> the question is 2018-06-28T22:42:27 < c10ud> the big deals were the filtering (you don't need) and the post-processing 2018-06-28T22:42:47 < vampi-the-frog> yeah no processing besides the deinterlacing 2018-06-28T22:43:01 < vampi-the-frog> I did something similar with soft UART 2018-06-28T22:43:23 < vampi-the-frog> I sampled at 16x the baud rate and had a state machine for each of the 8 soft uarts 2018-06-28T22:43:35 < vampi-the-frog> someone in here suggested it 2018-06-28T22:43:39 < vampi-the-frog> or it was in #libopencm3 2018-06-28T22:44:02 < vampi-the-frog> and it did work but in the meanwhile I got an actual MIDI interface with 8 inputs and outputs so it wasn't necessary :P 2018-06-28T22:44:08 < c10ud> lol 2018-06-28T22:44:28 < vampi-the-frog> ok so now the problem is 2018-06-28T22:44:29 < vampi-the-frog> I only have 5 endpoints on F407 2018-06-28T22:44:41 < vampi-the-frog> how do I spread out the 8 stereo channels 2018-06-28T22:44:48 < vampi-the-frog> I am thinking, 4 endpoints with 4 channels each 2018-06-28T22:45:04 < vampi-the-frog> and 4 interfaces as well 2018-06-28T22:45:15 < vampi-the-frog> audio interface descriptors I mean 2018-06-28T22:46:29 < vampi-the-frog> or I could just use 1 interface with 1 endpoint and feed all 16 channels through it 2018-06-28T22:46:40 < vampi-the-frog> but I am thinking it's better to have the ability to lower the bandwidth 2018-06-28T22:47:08 < c10ud> yeah probably your next problem will be handling the data on PC lol 2018-06-28T22:47:26 < vampi-the-frog> well that won't be a problem if I just use standard descriptors 2018-06-28T22:47:33 < vampi-the-frog> ALSA should recognize it no problem 2018-06-28T22:47:40 < vampi-the-frog> well, the standard USB Audio driver, I mean 2018-06-28T22:47:45 < vampi-the-frog> and it should work on windows too 2018-06-28T22:47:49 < vampi-the-frog> I found a guide bte 2018-06-28T22:47:50 < vampi-the-frog> btw* 2018-06-28T22:48:30 < vampi-the-frog> it was a slideshow that showed common errors in USB Audio descriptors and how Windows refuses to accept the device 2018-06-28T22:49:04 < srk> I have a soundcard running on stm32f4 disco :) 2018-06-28T22:49:06 < vampi-the-frog> http://electronix.ru/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=19450 2018-06-28T22:49:17 < vampi-the-frog> srk: did you call it the disco card? 2018-06-28T22:49:31 < srk> just found some fw on teh internetz 2018-06-28T22:49:38 < srk> it say STM something audio 2018-06-28T22:49:55 * srk searches 2018-06-28T22:50:17 < srk> DiscoveryAudioUSB 2018-06-28T22:50:32 < srk> it glitches like once in an hour but works.. :D 2018-06-28T22:50:41 < srk> http://www.tjaekel.com/DiscoveryUSB/index.html 2018-06-28T22:51:32 < srk> downloaded bin image and used bin2elf so I can load it with gdb 2018-06-28T22:51:36 < Laurenceb> Bongs btfo 2018-06-28T22:51:42 < srk> so if you need elf 2018-06-28T22:52:26 < vampi-the-frog> ok I'm familiar with that page 2018-06-28T22:55:12 < vampi-the-frog> I'm gonna use unicore-mx, it seems to work 2018-06-28T22:59:10 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b6ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T23:15:40 < kakimir> https://imgur.com/gallery/JykMmaR 2018-06-28T23:18:50 < Cracki> bong http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5890179/Anti-child-abuse-advocate-arrested-trying-sex-kids.html 2018-06-28T23:23:30 < Cracki> https://i2.wp.com/stonetoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/male-feminist-comic.png 2018-06-28T23:24:00 < Cracki> it's like virtue signaling is meant to distract from the skeletons in your closet 2018-06-28T23:24:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-28T23:24:31 -!- freakuency [~freakuenc@h-136-171.A336.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-28T23:25:06 < Laurenceb> arggg gpsd 2018-06-28T23:25:12 < Laurenceb> I dont know wtf is wrong 2018-06-28T23:25:32 < Cracki> did you mean "ptsd" 2018-06-28T23:25:37 < Laurenceb> kek 2018-06-28T23:25:49 < Cracki> maybe the babbies need to be aligned 2018-06-28T23:26:07 < Laurenceb> babby locator 2018-06-28T23:26:10 < Cracki> have you tried reversing the peepee 2018-06-28T23:26:23 < Laurenceb> systemd[1]: Dependency failed for GPS 2018-06-28T23:26:27 < Cracki> >systemd 2018-06-28T23:26:27 < Laurenceb> wtf does that even mean 2018-06-28T23:26:30 < Laurenceb> yeah 2018-06-28T23:26:34 < Cracki> you trust anything the poettering made? 2018-06-28T23:26:35 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-28T23:26:39 < Laurenceb> heh nope 2018-06-28T23:26:51 < Steffanx> just reinstall the os. just like you would with windows 2018-06-28T23:27:04 < Cracki> ok well I'd trust it to be garbage and cost innocent lives 2018-06-28T23:27:42 < Steffanx> Welcome Cracki. How was your day today? 2018-06-28T23:29:06 < Cracki> uneventful. ripped a feminist sticker off some bank's ad poster and placed it on a feminist political campaign poster. 2018-06-28T23:29:17 < Laurenceb> mgtow^ 2018-06-28T23:29:40 < Cracki> then I counted shekels as I do every day 2018-06-28T23:29:59 < Cracki> then I brought them to the bank because I'm fucking broke 2018-06-28T23:30:34 < Laurenceb> arg 1 page of hits of google 2018-06-28T23:30:34 < Laurenceb> wtf 2018-06-28T23:31:16 < Cracki> you know how bricks are the meme du jour on twitter? 2018-06-28T23:31:23 < Cracki> send poettering a brick with a message perhaps 2018-06-28T23:31:25 < englishman> did you count your GEMA fines as well 2018-06-28T23:31:29 < Steffanx> How did that go Cracki? Did the woman behind the counter like your empty wallet? 2018-06-28T23:31:51 < Cracki> at this bank, they replaced all the women with ATMs 2018-06-28T23:32:20 < Steffanx> aha 2018-06-28T23:32:50 < Cracki> I left a bank because the drone behind the counter backtalked 2018-06-28T23:33:33 < Cracki> we're a high tech country. counting shekels and painted paper should be beneath anyone who should be living here. 2018-06-28T23:33:48 < englishman> i was amazed that germany was a cash society 2018-06-28T23:33:54 < englishman> why would anyone touch cash ever 2018-06-28T23:33:58 < Cracki> yes we love our cash. 2018-06-28T23:34:08 < Cracki> easy to move money without anyone knowing ;) 2018-06-28T23:34:17 < englishman> germans are paranoid yes 2018-06-28T23:34:29 < Cracki> no, we're just smarter about not paying taxes 2018-06-28T23:34:32 < englishman> the jews do still control you after all 2018-06-28T23:34:40 < Cracki> can't deny that 2018-06-28T23:34:41 < englishman> ? 2018-06-28T23:34:43 < englishman> taxes? 2018-06-28T23:34:51 < englishman> if you are paying taxes, get a new accountant 2018-06-28T23:34:54 < englishman> maybe a jewish one 2018-06-28T23:34:57 < Cracki> don't have one 2018-06-28T23:35:10 < Cracki> not sure I'd pay less if I followed your advice 2018-06-28T23:35:22 < englishman> the point of an accountant is to make you money 2018-06-28T23:35:29 < englishman> that is their job 2018-06-28T23:35:30 < Cracki> yes, which he can pocket 2018-06-28T23:35:38 < englishman> yes but it has to be a net positive 2018-06-28T23:35:50 < englishman> otherwise you have a shitty (non-jewish) accountant 2018-06-28T23:35:53 < englishman> or you are just poor 2018-06-28T23:35:55 < Cracki> the job of the accountant is to make me believe I'm better off with im 2018-06-28T23:36:04 < Cracki> I'm just poor ;) 2018-06-28T23:36:14 < Cracki> still a student 2018-06-28T23:36:25 < englishman> then you should definitely not be paying taxes 2018-06-28T23:36:32 < Cracki> and I don't have the nose for ruthless salary negotiations 2018-06-28T23:36:35 < Laurenceb> arggg 2018-06-28T23:36:40 < Laurenceb> I need a gpsd consultant 2018-06-28T23:36:41 < Cracki> *I* am not paying taxes 2018-06-28T23:36:47 < Laurenceb> or just reimpliment it myself 2018-06-28T23:36:52 < Laurenceb> prob 10 times faster 2018-06-28T23:36:53 < Cracki> that's what lenny said 2018-06-28T23:36:59 < Cracki> NIH! he said 2018-06-28T23:37:05 < Cracki> do it fgt 2018-06-28T23:37:05 < Laurenceb> heh 2018-06-28T23:37:09 < Laurenceb> maybe 2morrow 2018-06-28T23:37:18 < Laurenceb> shouldnt take more than an afternoon to clone gpsd 2018-06-28T23:37:30 < Laurenceb> ok back to other stuff... 2018-06-28T23:37:44 < Laurenceb> anyone know how file permissions work in Qt? 2018-06-28T23:37:54 < Cracki> wat 2018-06-28T23:37:55 < Laurenceb> Qt is failing to open files, but only on my laptop 2018-06-28T23:37:57 < Laurenceb> weird 2018-06-28T23:38:05 < Cracki> does it throw exceptions? 2018-06-28T23:38:21 < Cracki> path fucked? unicode? 2018-06-28T23:38:55 < Laurenceb> oh shit 2018-06-28T23:38:57 < Laurenceb> its the path 2018-06-28T23:39:05 < Laurenceb> yeah I need relative path in Qt 2018-06-28T23:39:16 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-28T23:39:20 < Cracki> no you need the right path 2018-06-28T23:39:34 < Laurenceb> well like ~/Documents/babbydata 2018-06-28T23:39:46 < Cracki> it might not understand ~ 2018-06-28T23:39:51 < Cracki> ~ must be resolved explicitly 2018-06-28T23:40:04 < Cracki> so read the docs 2018-06-28T23:40:05 < Laurenceb> I know 2018-06-28T23:40:17 < Cracki> soooo? 2018-06-28T23:40:18 < Laurenceb> need to find a way to resolve ~ 2018-06-28T23:40:25 < Cracki> ... 2018-06-28T23:41:26 < Cracki> there's this, but it's not very linuxy https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qdir.html#the-current-directory-and-other-special-paths 2018-06-28T23:41:53 < Laurenceb> aha thanks 2018-06-28T23:43:18 < Cracki> blackfacing julius fucking caesar https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgyHxyyU8AAsu0O.jpg:orig 2018-06-28T23:44:55 < vampi-the-frog> that's dumb 2018-06-28T23:45:04 < vampi-the-frog> virtue signaling by the casting director 2018-06-28T23:45:45 < Laurenceb> yay it wurks 2018-06-28T23:46:05 < Cracki> BBC made a "historical" series about brits where half the characters were some color other than pasty 2018-06-28T23:47:47 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-28T23:49:06 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upP-QNtrlqU finnish "bbc" went beyond that 2018-06-28T23:49:07 < Cracki> social services in some german city does renovations. they now have a "spit window" (?) in front of the counter. guess the culture 2018-06-28T23:49:21 < Cracki> ze vuk 2018-06-28T23:49:32 < kakimir> *went in blackwashing beyond that 2018-06-28T23:49:44 < Cracki> that must have been satire 2018-06-28T23:49:57 < jadew> what's a spit window? 2018-06-28T23:50:06 < kakimir> Cracki: nope 2018-06-28T23:50:06 < Cracki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marshal_of_Finland 2018-06-28T23:50:06 < jadew> I've heard about spit bucket (saw it in movies) 2018-06-28T23:50:24 < Cracki> spit window: glass panel that llamas can spit at without hitting the clerk behind it 2018-06-28T23:50:39 < Cracki> damn it's based on true history 2018-06-28T23:50:45 < kakimir> tax money actually payed that thing 2018-06-28T23:51:01 < Cracki> the responsible ones need to be buried alive 2018-06-28T23:51:23 < Cracki> to the neck anyway 2018-06-28T23:51:38 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aEVQwRpKIY 2018-06-28T23:53:21 < kakimir> finnish "bbc" is really good at doing whatever they like with taxpayers money 2018-06-28T23:56:33 < Cracki> "The next Supreme Court Justice should be an illegal immigrant" https://twitter.com/CNNPoltics/status/1012343403697319937 2018-06-28T23:56:52 < Cracki> genocidal maniacs --- Day changed Fri Jun 29 2018 2018-06-29T00:01:13 < kakimir> what the hell 2018-06-29T00:01:36 < kakimir> what part of "illegal" and "imigrant" they do not understand 2018-06-29T00:02:42 < Cracki> they're socialists, they don't believe in cell membranes, locked front doors, countries that are nations,... 2018-06-29T00:03:04 < Cracki> *nation states 2018-06-29T00:03:16 < kakimir> there is no legitimazy to work in such office within neather of those words 2018-06-29T00:03:54 < Cracki> I agree. this should not even be worth talking about. 2018-06-29T00:05:05 < Cracki> to quote the Musk: Who do you think *owns* the press? Hello. 2018-06-29T00:05:22 < Cracki> there's an agenda. 2018-06-29T00:05:29 < vampi-the-frog> I wouldn't mind muslims if their culture wasn't so insidious and clearly evil. 2018-06-29T00:05:52 < Cracki> they're just pawns in this 2018-06-29T00:06:59 < vampi-the-frog> countries need to cut foreign funding to mosques, force them to hold sermons in english, ban head coverings, convict rapists, convict or deport jihadis, and have the army march through no-go zones to show them who's boss 2018-06-29T00:07:20 < Cracki> but the bleeding heart lefties! 2018-06-29T00:07:27 < vampi-the-frog> they're losing so badly 2018-06-29T00:07:36 < vampi-the-frog> merkel is going down 2018-06-29T00:07:40 < vampi-the-frog> wicked witch of the west 2018-06-29T00:07:40 < Cracki> the left is also just a facade 2018-06-29T00:07:44 < Cracki> I wish 2018-06-29T00:07:45 < vampi-the-frog> she's meeelltiiiing 2018-06-29T00:07:52 < vampi-the-frog> meltiiing oh the humanity 2018-06-29T00:07:54 < Cracki> she'll probably sit there until she croaks of natural causes 2018-06-29T00:08:03 < Cracki> germans are too cowed 2018-06-29T00:08:24 < Cracki> it'll take a lot to make germans bang their fist on the table 2018-06-29T00:08:42 < vampi-the-frog> the right seems to be rising all over the place 2018-06-29T00:08:45 < vampi-the-frog> including in germany 2018-06-29T00:09:01 < Cracki> it needs to rise more 2018-06-29T00:09:01 < vampi-the-frog> I wish my country would get access to Visegrad 4 2018-06-29T00:09:36 < Cracki> merkel got the "karlspreis" (charlemagne) 2018-06-29T00:09:47 < vampi-the-frog> what's that 2018-06-29T00:09:48 < Cracki> the first recipient of that thing was couldenhove-kalergi 2018-06-29T00:10:02 < vampi-the-frog> talk in plain english 2018-06-29T00:10:06 < Cracki> an award for globalism and destroying european nations 2018-06-29T00:10:26 < vampi-the-frog> insidious 2018-06-29T00:10:28 < vampi-the-frog> enraging 2018-06-29T00:10:32 < Cracki> look him up. he came up with "let's mix europeans with outsiders so they're more compliant" 2018-06-29T00:10:43 < vampi-the-frog> an evil despicable man 2018-06-29T00:12:27 < Cracki> he's quoted as saying "eurasian-negroid race of the future" 2018-06-29T00:12:53 < vampi-the-frog> people are seeing the truth now and are rising 2018-06-29T00:13:03 < Cracki> Barbara Lerner Spectre said some fun things as well 2018-06-29T00:13:04 < vampi-the-frog> italy and austria have begun 2018-06-29T00:13:14 < vampi-the-frog> hungary and others 2018-06-29T00:13:21 < Cracki> I'm considering taking language courses for these places 2018-06-29T00:13:25 < vampi-the-frog> I am thinking of moving to either hungary or poland 2018-06-29T00:13:26 < vampi-the-frog> yeah 2018-06-29T00:13:28 < vampi-the-frog> or perhaps the US 2018-06-29T00:13:36 < vampi-the-frog> the US would be easiest for me to integrate in 2018-06-29T00:13:40 < Cracki> (a Sachertorte for austrian should be enough) 2018-06-29T00:14:07 < Cracki> the US needs to rise moar 2018-06-29T00:14:15 < vampi-the-frog> it will though 2018-06-29T00:14:17 < vampi-the-frog> it is 2018-06-29T00:15:46 < vampi-the-frog> aight 2018-06-29T00:15:49 < vampi-the-frog> gotta go, cya 2018-06-29T00:16:28 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-29T00:36:42 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-29T00:40:14 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-b6ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-29T00:53:46 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T00:57:42 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a01:cb14:ae4:6400:18f9:c0ac:8d6e:e54d] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-29T01:14:11 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cnvwqxwnmikygcmi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T01:15:09 < stvn> muh guns! Maryland police officers patrol the area after multiple people were shot at at The Capital Gazette newspaper in Annapolis. 2018-06-29T01:17:24 < stvn> !!! 2018-06-29T01:21:04 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-29T01:27:38 < Cracki> police were there in 60 seconds 2018-06-29T01:27:45 < Cracki> smells suspicious 2018-06-29T01:30:26 < Cracki> ugh a long-nosed blood sucker just came through the window 2018-06-29T01:52:48 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T02:15:21 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T02:17:28 -!- R0b0t1 [~~@unaffiliated/r0b0t1] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T02:44:52 -!- diamondman [uid306859@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rapzibmslkoonwgh] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T02:46:22 < diamondman> Anyone here have experience with stm32's Real Time Clock smooth configuration? I am using RTC_SmoothCalibConfig, and no matter is I enable or disable CALP, It always seems to be adding cycles to my rtc clock instead of masking it :/ 2018-06-29T03:00:38 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-29T03:21:27 -!- tonyarkles [~tonyarkle@static24-72-40-127.r.rev.accesscomm.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T03:28:08 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T03:47:16 < dongs> aandrew: how do you use stlink on macfag 2018-06-29T03:47:57 < stvn> some people like to install windows on their mac 2018-06-29T03:48:19 < dongs> i tried 2018-06-29T03:48:24 < dongs> it was actually even worse 2018-06-29T03:48:30 < dongs> touchpad was the worst thing 2018-06-29T03:48:38 < dongs> like, it was bad on macos 2018-06-29T03:48:44 < dongs> in windows it was just fucking horrid 2018-06-29T03:49:08 < dongs> anyway i was on that mac running windows for like a month 2018-06-29T03:49:21 < stvn> I still remember university... 3 rooms full of 27" iMacs.... all running windows..... 2018-06-29T03:49:50 < dongs> i remmeber university... room full of WYSE dumb terminals with amber screens and some NeXTStations in the back 2018-06-29T03:50:24 < stvn> last time i saw a WYSE terminal was a public library down the street.... 15 years ago. 2018-06-29T03:50:42 < dongs> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfRFGpgVMAARFUe.jpg when was teh last time you saw this 2018-06-29T03:50:58 < stvn> rofl 2018-06-29T03:51:17 < stvn> at least he's a chink... 2018-06-29T03:51:42 < stvn> waifus n shit 2018-06-29T03:51:51 -!- jadew [~razvan@5-12-13-74.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T03:56:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T03:57:38 -!- jadew [~razvan@188.25.136.252] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T04:06:22 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-29T04:07:53 -!- KolK [~KolK@kolk.net.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T04:08:11 -!- fc5dc9d4 [~quassel@p5B0815D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T04:08:30 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T04:12:22 -!- fc5dc9d4_ [~quassel@p57A32EAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-29T04:20:04 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.128.138] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T04:20:32 < diamondman> My office only provides macs.... 2018-06-29T04:20:51 < diamondman> STLink2 works pretty well on it, but just cause I am using openocd 2018-06-29T04:22:00 < diamondman> and ofc I have to use some nonsense adapter to adapt from usbc to usb a 2018-06-29T04:23:30 < stvn> lol 2018-06-29T04:25:44 < kakimir> the fuck 2018-06-29T04:26:10 < kakimir> bullshit mac for embedded developer 2018-06-29T04:26:34 < kakimir> worst thing possible to get 2018-06-29T04:26:53 < kakimir> I don't mean mac generally 2018-06-29T04:27:10 < kakimir> but that macbook pro I assume 2018-06-29T04:38:51 < stvn> don't you know we all have macs here? 2018-06-29T04:38:57 < stvn> what the fuck are you doing without a mac kakimir ? 2018-06-29T05:00:52 < kakimir> yeah yeah 2018-06-29T05:01:00 < aandrew> dongs: I don't use stlink on mac. I turn it into a jlink and work like a pro 2018-06-29T05:01:04 < kakimir> but if you are embedded dev 2018-06-29T05:01:07 < aandrew> dongs: but srs, stlink works fine on openocd on mac 2018-06-29T05:01:11 < aandrew> I just dislike it 2018-06-29T05:01:35 < kakimir> macbook pro is literally the worst option 2018-06-29T05:01:46 < aandrew> hahaha trackpad is one thing apple does perfectly and nobody on any other os has been able to replicate, even with mac hardware running windows or linux 2018-06-29T05:02:03 < kakimir> idk 2018-06-29T05:02:10 < kakimir> my asus trackpad is okay 2018-06-29T05:02:27 < kakimir> zenbook 2018-06-29T05:02:32 < aandrew> new mac pros are garbage with the keyboard and no usba and no magsafe and soldered hdd 2018-06-29T05:02:40 < aandrew> my 2012 mac air 11" is the tits 2018-06-29T05:02:47 < kakimir> certainly 2018-06-29T05:03:18 < aandrew> i7, 8GB RAM, it has absolutely never let me down 2018-06-29T05:03:18 < kakimir> once I tried to give 30GB of files to my sister 2018-06-29T05:03:29 < kakimir> I gave usb drive to her 2018-06-29T05:03:49 < kakimir> "I cannot plug this in" 2018-06-29T05:04:57 < aandrew> kakimir: lol. 2018-06-29T05:05:13 < aandrew> wife has the new macbook. I bought magnetic usbc and little usba->c adapters, she never carries them 2018-06-29T05:05:17 < aandrew> whatever, it's not important 2018-06-29T05:05:25 < aandrew> then she whines about why she can't do something 2018-06-29T05:05:30 < aandrew> "where are the adapters I gave you?" "at home" 2018-06-29T05:05:32 < aandrew> whatever 2018-06-29T05:09:52 < kakimir> fucking insomnia 2018-06-29T05:10:35 < kakimir> I probs get sleepy right when I get to work 2018-06-29T05:12:11 < diamondman> I agree that mac is not great for embedded work, particularly when it is the new all uxbc mac book pro 2018-06-29T05:12:51 < diamondman> I also argue about the quality of the HAND sized touch pad that somehow gets confused when I drag things with multiple fingers (like drag, and change the finger that is dragging) 2018-06-29T05:13:15 < kakimir> why would you work on laptop anyways 2018-06-29T05:13:28 < diamondman> And this new keyboard is pretty unsatisfying to type on/super prone to breaking/impossible to repair 2018-06-29T05:14:09 < diamondman> I was simply provided a laptop for work, and I plug it into several monitors/usb hub/etc... it takes 3-4 usbc cables to DO that, but it does work 2018-06-29T05:14:10 < kakimir> I mean when proper work station is like streamlined road bicycle 2018-06-29T05:14:28 < kakimir> and laptop is like - wheelchair 2018-06-29T05:14:40 < diamondman> I don't think it is that bad 2018-06-29T05:15:01 < diamondman> It is nice to be working on something, and have to go catch a train... and just take the machine with me while I think through some code 2018-06-29T05:15:27 < kakimir> that is good 2018-06-29T05:15:29 < aandrew> diamondman: yes, I also think the new trackpad size is ridiculous 2018-06-29T05:16:01 < aandrew> diamondman: why would it take 3-4 usbc cables. one has more than enough bandwidth. branch out from a central hub 2018-06-29T05:16:32 < diamondman> aandrew: One day the whole thing will be a touch pad. They already started with this touch bar that seems useful for people who do photoshop or garage band to make shitty house music, but I want my f keys 2018-06-29T05:16:52 < aandrew> this 11" air is my main dev machine. while I *can* run vmware fusion and thus win7 for altium etc, most times I rdp over ssh into an esxi win7 instance. 2018-06-29T05:17:23 < aandrew> diamondman: yep. I'm really hoping the next mac pro refresh will put some sanity back into the design. I really don't want to move off osx or apple hardware but theyre' really leaving no choice 2018-06-29T05:17:45 < aandrew> and honestly, as long as college kids and seniors are willing to spend $2000 for a facebook machine, why would apple put effort in? 2018-06-29T05:17:53 < diamondman> aandrew: I got that little usbc splitter that splits out to HDMI, USBA, and a usbc port that can only be used to charge. The other monitors are usbc. Charging through the splitter is slow so I plug the power supply directly in. So depending on the number of monitors, that is 3-4 2018-06-29T05:18:39 < diamondman> aandrew: (on the college kid facebook machine) fucking exactly 2018-06-29T05:18:44 < aandrew> diamondman: ah, sounds like that splitter is poorly designed 2018-06-29T05:19:26 < diamondman> https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter?afid=p238%7Cs3kpSGqXc-dc_mtid_1870765e38482_pcrid_246386725857_&cid=aos-us-kwgo-pla-btb--slid--product-MJ1K2AM/A yes 2018-06-29T05:20:14 < diamondman> Do you recommend a better splitter that I could plug multiple monitors int (hate to drag this thread into mac accessory suggestions, just wonder if you have a better one in mind) 2018-06-29T05:21:58 < diamondman> (For a facebook machine, you can just get a lenovo t530 for $150) 2018-06-29T05:28:52 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.128.138] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-29T05:38:57 < PeterM> diamondman i got one thats a usb hub + gbit ethernet, worth it 2018-06-29T05:39:01 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aandrew> or a USB3 video card 2018-06-29T06:22:55 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-29T07:16:11 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-29T07:17:14 -!- day_ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T07:20:17 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-29T07:20:21 -!- day_ is now known as day 2018-06-29T07:26:16 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T07:34:02 < kakimir> horrible thing stvn 2018-06-29T07:34:12 < kakimir> you know 2018-06-29T07:34:38 < kakimir> australians own finnish electric grid 2018-06-29T07:35:45 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-29T07:45:28 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T07:54:51 -!- boB_K7IQ 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kakimir> that is owned such as JP Morgan 2018-06-29T08:53:32 < stvn> they're a stack of cunts 2018-06-29T08:53:59 < kakimir> no doubt 2018-06-29T08:54:52 < kakimir> Let's try work day without sleep 2018-06-29T08:55:00 < kakimir> First time everything 2018-06-29T08:55:39 < kakimir> an hour ago I didn't know if I was awake, in sleep or ded 2018-06-29T08:56:40 < kakimir> I'm way too old for this shit 2018-06-29T08:57:15 < kakimir> I bet that I have like a counter of nights I can go without sleep total in my lifetime 2018-06-29T08:57:59 < kakimir> and it's gone bellow half already 2018-06-29T08:58:09 < kakimir> and when it goes 0 - me ded 2018-06-29T09:00:52 < Steffanx> Uhm no work kakimir? 2018-06-29T09:01:51 < kakimir> I'm already at works 2018-06-29T09:02:56 < kakimir> I try to do some bullshit for 4-6hours and then I mark the hours and go to sleep to my appartment 2018-06-29T09:03:41 < kakimir> I got too pumped yesterday 2018-06-29T09:03:51 < stvn> Steffanx: can you bring back the blaxter 2018-06-29T09:03:51 < kakimir> splitting the mainfile 2018-06-29T09:03:57 < kakimir> no 2018-06-29T09:04:02 < stvn> we're running dangerously low on memes 2018-06-29T09:04:19 < stvn> also if you didn't notice i'm jerking at home today kumpel 2018-06-29T09:04:20 < kakimir> if we look at irc statistics 2018-06-29T09:05:12 < stvn> yah i gotta see how many N bombs have been used this month 2018-06-29T09:05:19 < kakimir> blaxter has unidir comms with everybody 2018-06-29T09:05:31 < kakimir> and bidir comms with you 2018-06-29T09:06:50 < stvn> yea 2018-06-29T09:08:57 < kakimir> I'm not sure what to say about it but that I don't see anything good about it 2018-06-29T09:11:41 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-29T09:12:09 < kakimir> finally engaging to chats - just to amp up some shit with compliant person 2018-06-29T09:12:39 < stvn> the asian doctor prescribed my antibiotics 2018-06-29T09:12:55 < kakimir> fucking antibiotics 2018-06-29T09:12:56 -!- Ultrasauce [~sauce@142.163.117.67] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T09:13:02 < kakimir> fucking doctors 2018-06-29T09:13:13 < kakimir> and fuck idiots 2018-06-29T09:16:44 < stvn> should i stick them up my arse 2018-06-29T09:16:59 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-29T09:18:38 < kakimir> are those arse pills? 2018-06-29T09:18:46 < kakimir> or oral pills? 2018-06-29T09:23:20 < stvn> oral 2018-06-29T09:24:10 < stvn> I'm willing to accept your suggestions 2018-06-29T09:30:38 < stvn> https://i.imgur.com/eUdTuzB.jpg 2018-06-29T09:32:18 < kakimir> you are a weird guy 2018-06-29T09:33:34 < kakimir> do your hobbies include extreme penetration? 2018-06-29T09:33:56 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T09:34:40 < stvn> lol 2018-06-29T09:39:14 < stvn> kakimir: https://i.imgur.com/A2byFQU.jpg 2018-06-29T09:39:36 < kakimir> not at work stvn.. not at work 2018-06-29T09:39:47 < stvn> sfw 2018-06-29T09:40:05 < stvn> just don't show your children it would probably scare them away 2018-06-29T09:40:14 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-29T09:40:34 < kakimir> we are big children 2018-06-29T09:41:07 < stvn> anyway 2018-06-29T09:41:13 < stvn> got any LED projects? 2018-06-29T09:41:46 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-f8b9d954.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-29T09:42:36 < kakimir> I got indicator led sequencer 2018-06-29T09:42:44 < kakimir> intense shiet 2018-06-29T09:43:09 < kakimir> blinks leds 2018-06-29T09:43:09 < stvn> that does sound intense 2018-06-29T09:43:25 < stvn> i do remember your special LED driver 2018-06-29T09:43:34 < kakimir> it has largest non ISR function 2018-06-29T09:43:40 < kakimir> yeah 2018-06-29T09:43:56 < stvn> and the large inductor 2018-06-29T09:44:02 < kakimir> it's left in the state I showed it before 2018-06-29T09:44:31 < kakimir> big inductor is all the sex in it 2018-06-29T09:44:55 < kakimir> also big MLCCs and fets 2018-06-29T09:45:00 < kakimir> but not so much 2018-06-29T09:46:08 < stvn> i like the stacked mlccs 2018-06-29T09:47:13 < stvn> would you just look at that https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/avx-corporation/ST201C146MAJ03/478-6113-ND/2270078 2018-06-29T09:49:37 < stvn> https://media.digikey.com/photos/AVX%20Photos/ST205C107MAJ10.JPG 2018-06-29T09:50:21 < kakimir> I love long lines of big expensive MLCCs in rows on board 2018-06-29T09:50:45 < stvn> it makes me happy 2018-06-29T09:52:13 < stvn> i have to get extremely autistic this weekend 2018-06-29T09:54:19 < Steffanx> "have to get" nicd joke 2018-06-29T09:54:50 < Steffanx> *nice 2018-06-29T09:56:10 < stvn> [] 2018-06-29T09:57:08 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T09:58:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T09:59:28 < kakimir> get autism stvn 2018-06-29T09:59:39 < kakimir> go for it 2018-06-29T09:59:46 < stvn> okay 2018-06-29T10:00:38 -!- emeb_mac 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dongs and MIPI too 2018-06-29T11:37:07 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-29T11:41:13 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-29T11:42:27 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T11:53:01 < dongs> PeterM: yeah, im mostly talking for large panels like monitor/tv 2018-06-29T11:53:10 < dongs> mipi is irrelevant in that space 2018-06-29T11:56:05 < PeterM> yeah, but mipi seems to be more inline with what epi wants to be 2018-06-29T12:14:28 < kakimir> splitting mainfile is complete 2018-06-29T12:14:36 < kakimir> 88files total 2018-06-29T12:14:48 < kakimir> begun with 2 2018-06-29T12:14:55 < kakimir> mainfile and board.h 2018-06-29T12:14:58 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T12:17:22 < kakimir> holy shiet 2018-06-29T12:20:26 < mitrax_> when calling NVIC_SystemReset(), aren't interrupt registers back to their default state? i'm having a weird problem with my bootloader, one that never occured before, when started through the bootloader the application code crashes within the systick interrupt handler because the bss segment is not yet initialized to zero (i have a global pointer that's supposed to be 0 on startup), thing is, 2018-06-29T12:20:32 < mitrax_> when the crash occurs i haven't enabled the systick interrupt yet, it seems the handler is called in the middle of bss being zero-ed. 2018-06-29T12:23:43 < jpa-> mitrax_: well when it crashes and it is in interrupt handler, check if the systick is enabled? 2018-06-29T12:24:01 < jpa-> you can also end up there due to spurious jump somewhere 2018-06-29T12:26:44 < Thorn> stream is live 2018-06-29T12:28:22 < jpa-> but yeah, generally NVIC_SystemReset() should be equivalent to pulsing NRST pin --- Log closed Fri Jun 29 12:32:20 2018 --- Log opened Fri Jun 29 13:04:39 2018 2018-06-29T13:04:39 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T13:04:39 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 146 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 145 normal] 2018-06-29T13:05:52 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 79 secs 2018-06-29T13:07:48 < mitrax_> wait something's wrong 2018-06-29T13:11:02 -!- PaulFertser [~paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-29T13:11:31 < mitrax_> the isr vector is not where it should be 2018-06-29T13:16:43 < mitrax_> mmh, nevermind it is 2018-06-29T13:32:20 < mitrax_> PaulFerster: vector table is at 0x08020400 (where i told it to be in the linker script), entry point (where i branch to from the bootloader) is much further away 0x0803bdd8, systick handler is called while executing 0x0803bbec 2018-06-29T13:40:14 < karlp> _not a bug_ https://zerobin.net/?26bfdd68cc85106a#QhUWJhUVGJLiDIYv65iw5y719jjcQC7ANvKMnhlE6uU= 2018-06-29T13:42:55 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-29T13:51:47 < mitrax_> and SysTick_CTRL_TICKINT / SysTick_CTRL_ENABLE are both set 2018-06-29T13:54:23 -!- dobson [~dobson@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T14:01:43 < Laurenceb> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brotopia-Breaking-Boys-Silicon-Valley/dp/0735213534 kek 2018-06-29T14:02:24 < stvn> wut 2018-06-29T14:02:57 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-29T14:03:35 < Laurenceb> the patriarchy 2018-06-29T14:03:55 < Laurenceb> >women have been systematically excluded from the greatest wealth creation in the history of the world 2018-06-29T14:03:57 < Laurenceb> my sides 2018-06-29T14:07:44 -!- Rajko [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-29T14:15:04 -!- PaulFertser [~paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T14:21:22 < zyp> karlp, cute 2018-06-29T14:22:41 < zyp> so, let me guess, that inline definition is treated as a declaration, and at -O0 the call is not getting inlined, so you're left referencing a declaration you have no definition for 2018-06-29T14:23:31 < zyp> declaring it static inline however works 2018-06-29T14:25:11 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-29T14:26:57 < zyp> bingo, you need an "extern inline" statement in one translation unit to make the compiler actually emit the symbol 2018-06-29T14:28:15 < karlp> yes, apparently c standard says that inline doesn't exlcude there being an external definition. 2018-06-29T14:28:28 < karlp> so even in a single compilation unit, gcc just says, "inline? that' means I can discard it!" 2018-06-29T14:28:29 < stvn> meanwhile in Australia https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/man-on-the-run-after-dead-body-found-in-car-on-the-gold-coast-qld/news-story/d6f209f140fe183782156fcaca0fa904 2018-06-29T14:28:36 < zyp> correct, inline is a hint, not a requirement 2018-06-29T14:28:45 < karlp> no problem with that, 2018-06-29T14:28:47 < zyp> that's why gcc adds the always_inline-attribute 2018-06-29T14:28:54 < karlp> but I believe it should be a hint abotu inlineing 2018-06-29T14:29:01 < karlp> not a hint abotu whether you actually want the code or not at all. 2018-06-29T14:29:08 < karlp> I've got no problem with it not inlining it, 2018-06-29T14:29:21 < karlp> butthe decision to jsut omit the code entierly is wildly absurd IMO 2018-06-29T14:29:27 < zyp> well, it makes sense when you consider how symbols and translation units works in C 2018-06-29T14:29:56 < karlp> IMO that should result in duplicate definitions, 2018-06-29T14:30:06 < karlp> that would certainly be least surprise 2018-06-29T14:30:07 < zyp> yes, and C doesn't handle that 2018-06-29T14:30:45 < zyp> which is why in C you have to explicitly declare "extern inline" in one of the translation units to emit it 2018-06-29T14:31:11 < karlp> I see you're on the side of "I don't care if it makes no sense, it's how it is, so we'll keep it" 2018-06-29T14:31:18 < zyp> oh, not at all 2018-06-29T14:31:29 < zyp> I just use C++, they fixed it :) 2018-06-29T14:31:48 < karlp> I do see how they got to their decision, I just think they chose to implement it in a way that's clearly negative towards users. 2018-06-29T14:32:21 < zyp> in C++, it's okay to emit identical symbols in multiple translation units, the linker will fold the copies 2018-06-29T14:33:01 < zyp> so if you dislike how it's handled in C, you can switch to C++ :) 2018-06-29T14:33:31 < zyp> your original code builds perfectly with -O0 as C++ 2018-06-29T14:36:29 -!- renn0xtk9 [~max@2a01:cb14:ae4:6400:c5a3:924a:4fc7:7b1] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-29T14:39:31 < zyp> then again, not everybody are happy about how it's handled in C++ either: https://github.com/eyolfson/site-eyl-blog/blob/master/be-careful-of-weak-symbols-when-linking.md 2018-06-29T14:41:26 < zyp> mitrax_, made any progress? can I have a look at your bootloader code? 2018-06-29T14:42:37 -!- PaulFertser 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2amps out 2018-06-29T15:10:37 < kakimir> at both input voltages 2018-06-29T15:21:56 < mitrax_> zyp: sorry just got back from lunch, sure https://zerobin.net/?5c8d7656d1d286da#k7j8BrU+O8CvJM5qzv16BFvxnbUfaGpxuSnbT+xl4zk= 2018-06-29T15:23:12 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T15:23:16 < zyp> do you have a failing condition available in the debugger? 2018-06-29T15:23:27 < mitrax_> yep 2018-06-29T15:23:58 < zyp> same as the one you got the backtrace from? 2018-06-29T15:24:05 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T15:24:09 < zyp> can you check the register contents in the systick_handler frame? 2018-06-29T15:24:28 < zyp> frame 3, info registers 2018-06-29T15:24:31 < mitrax_> weird thing is it doesn't seem to reach the breakpoint i set on the application entry point, when i reset and let the bootloader branch that is 2018-06-29T15:24:57 < mitrax_> ok hold on 2018-06-29T15:25:45 < mitrax_> zyp: https://zerobin.net/?9d0f622883a313d1#Kh2jKzbx3nYCNE2mx4BSZsMRhBM2Rpb2cRC5doLc+vU= 2018-06-29T15:26:53 < zyp> intresting 2018-06-29T15:27:22 < zyp> ipsr is 15, so this is an actual systick interrupt, not just something that ends up in systick handler by accident 2018-06-29T15:27:35 < zyp> so that's ruled out 2018-06-29T15:28:06 < mitrax_> yeah, plus the lower 2 bits of the systick control register are set, so it looks like the reset didn't clear those 2018-06-29T15:28:22 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2018-06-29T15:28:34 < zyp> which platform were this again? 2018-06-29T15:28:39 < zyp> I mean, which chip? 2018-06-29T15:28:40 < mitrax_> STM32F429 2018-06-29T15:28:46 < zyp> hmm, okay 2018-06-29T15:29:30 < zyp> does your debugger trap resets? 2018-06-29T15:29:55 < zyp> or, can you set a breakpoint on bootloader main? 2018-06-29T15:30:10 < zyp> run to breakpoint, check systick register again 2018-06-29T15:30:45 < zyp> if systick is enabled at main() entry, you have something pretty weird going on 2018-06-29T15:31:04 < mitrax_> let me check 2018-06-29T15:31:48 < zyp> you're certain that there's no code running before main() that turns on systick? 2018-06-29T15:32:08 < zyp> considering this is C++, you might have global constructors running before main() 2018-06-29T15:32:41 -!- dekar [~dekar@87.190.53.66] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T15:32:50 < mitrax_> that's it, fuck i have a HAL_Init() in a constructor that's not supposed to be there 2018-06-29T15:32:51 < zyp> so breaking at both the reset handler and main would be useful, you could compare the systick register readings 2018-06-29T15:33:03 < zyp> :) 2018-06-29T15:34:01 < mitrax_> GAAAAH 2018-06-29T15:34:03 * mitrax_ slaps himself 2018-06-29T15:34:32 < mitrax_> zyp: well thanks... great news i have a buggy boatloader out in the wild... good that i don't have that many units 2018-06-29T15:34:41 < zyp> look at the bright side, now you don't have to figure out how to cope with a bug in the hardware reset 2018-06-29T15:35:00 < mitrax_> i guess i can clear the systick register right at the start of the application entry point 2018-06-29T15:35:14 < mitrax_> as a fix for the boards with the buggy bootloaders 2018-06-29T15:36:24 < zyp> as long as you can reliably do that before the interrupt triggers 2018-06-29T15:37:58 < zyp> adding a sanity check to the systick handler would be safer, but add more runtime overhead 2018-06-29T15:40:00 < PaulFertser> So, HAL is officially confirmed to be evil? 2018-06-29T15:40:14 < PaulFertser> Doing surprising things for no good reason? 2018-06-29T15:40:35 < zyp> nah, this is on doing stuff in global constructors 2018-06-29T15:40:47 < mitrax_> i have a sanity check already (!= 0) but it fails because of the interrupt triggering before the global pointer is zeroed :) 2018-06-29T15:41:24 < mitrax_> PaulFertser: no HAL_Init is supposed to set the systick handler, *i* wasn't supposed to call it in a constructor, i thought i had that part commented out cause i initialize it later on 2018-06-29T15:41:32 < zyp> you could check a variable for a magic word, and only set that variable at the start of main() 2018-06-29T15:41:53 < PaulFertser> mitrax_: I understand the point. But is that HAL actually helping anything, is it really a good abstraction? 2018-06-29T15:42:01 < mitrax_> PaulFertser: no it's shit 2018-06-29T15:42:12 < zyp> PaulFertser, I think it's irrelevant to the problem 2018-06-29T15:42:33 < zyp> doesn't matter who sets up systick, what matters is doing it at the wrong time 2018-06-29T15:46:03 < PaulFertser> zyp: but when the library is confusing, that can be an additional source of issues. E.g. I'm being somewhat familiar with "st periph shit-lib" wouldn't expect their next very similar lib to enable systick, as I have no idea why they might need it. Especially unconditionally in HAL_Init (as if you can't do anything useful without systick which is of course false). 2018-06-29T15:46:32 < zyp> isn't HAL_Init partly generated? 2018-06-29T15:47:06 < PaulFertser> That autogeneration of vital functions is also confusing imho. 2018-06-29T15:47:08 < zyp> I haven't used it, but I've used TI's halcogen stuff, which also has a config tool where I can select a ton of options 2018-06-29T15:47:28 < zyp> and then initialization functions are generated to do what I configured it to 2018-06-29T15:48:24 < zyp> I'm not a fan of it either, but it works and mostly does what it's supposed to 2018-06-29T15:50:04 < mitrax_> it wasn't an issue before because i accessed the global instance using get() e.g static my_global& my_global::get() {static my_global glb; return glb;} so the object isn't actually instantiated before you access it, but that adds a ton of overhead from the c++ runtime. 2018-06-29T15:50:18 < mitrax_> i mean, bloat in the binary 2018-06-29T15:51:38 < zyp> heh 2018-06-29T15:51:48 < mitrax_> for "singletons" on embedded i usually instantiate them on the stack in main() and set a global pointer but that's not really satisfying 2018-06-29T15:51:52 < zyp> I tend to just keep empty constructors, and then have an explicit init() method 2018-06-29T15:52:24 < mitrax_> and you keep the instance global? 2018-06-29T15:52:28 < zyp> yeah 2018-06-29T15:53:17 < zyp> anyway, gtg 2018-06-29T15:53:25 < mitrax_> zyp: thanks again :) 2018-06-29T15:59:57 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-29T16:05:43 < mitrax_> and jpa/PaulFerster as well... back to actual coding :) 2018-06-29T16:09:34 -!- psprint [~psprint@91.245.82.2] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T16:14:20 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T16:20:36 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T16:24:54 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T16:46:51 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T16:52:35 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T16:55:45 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@c-66-31-1-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T17:03:27 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T17:04:44 < bitmask> svgs are pissing me off 2018-06-29T17:13:14 < dale6998> how do you get past the 8th block of figure 15 in AN3155? 2018-06-29T17:14:39 < dale6998> ĞĐĞŝǀĞƚŚĞŶƵŵďĞƌŽĨďLJƚĞƐƚŽďĞǁƌŝƚƚĞŶ 2018-06-29T17:14:39 < dale6998> ;ϭďLJƚĞͿ͕ƚŚĞĚĂƚĂ;EнϭďLJƚĞƐͿ 2018-06-29T17:14:39 < dale6998> ;ϮͿ 2018-06-29T17:15:15 < dale6998> Receive the number of bytes to be written (1 byte), the data (N + 1 bytes) and checksum 2018-06-29T17:15:42 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T17:16:39 < dale6998> what is this asking for? 2018-06-29T17:17:03 < dale6998> can someone rephrase the instructions? 2018-06-29T17:18:51 < dale6998> I send the number of bytes to be written, then firehose it with the data and then finally send a checksum byte? 2018-06-29T17:21:56 -!- Sadale [~Sadale@unaffiliated/sadale] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T17:35:17 < dongs> guess so 2018-06-29T17:35:33 < dongs> have you considered looking aT "stm32flash" source code? its fairly clean for being opensores shit 2018-06-29T17:35:45 < dongs> which state is this 2018-06-29T17:35:55 < dongs> im to lazy to open an3155 2018-06-29T17:36:13 < dongs> writememory? 2018-06-29T17:36:16 -!- Haohmaru [~Haohmaru@195.24.53.110] has quit [] 2018-06-29T17:36:53 < dongs> receive 4 bytes of address + cehcksum 2018-06-29T17:37:04 < dongs> ack if OK 2018-06-29T17:37:12 < dongs> get bytes - 1 to be written 2018-06-29T17:37:25 < dongs> total bytes = number + 1 2018-06-29T17:37:35 < dongs> receive total bytes in a loop 2018-06-29T17:37:58 < dongs> compute checksum using total bytes as counter 2018-06-29T17:38:33 < dongs> compare with next byte 2018-06-29T17:38:37 < dongs> ack, or else nack 2018-06-29T17:41:21 < dongs> bedtime 2018-06-29T17:41:55 < dale6998> hmm 2018-06-29T17:42:09 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T17:42:09 < dale6998> yeah, i'm looking at his code now 2018-06-29T17:42:36 < vampi-the-frog> are you dale from Chip & Dale? 2018-06-29T17:42:55 < dale6998> i'm chip 2018-06-29T17:43:06 < vampi-the-frog> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Chip_%27n%27_Dale.png 2018-06-29T17:43:22 < vampi-the-frog> two different species fornicating 2018-06-29T17:43:26 < vampi-the-frog> an abomination in the eyes of God 2018-06-29T17:44:08 < dale6998> wtf is a vampi? 2018-06-29T17:44:34 < vampi-the-frog> same 2018-06-29T17:45:50 < dale6998> an abomination in the eyes of God? 2018-06-29T17:48:05 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.128.138] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T17:48:31 < vampi-the-frog> shyeah --- Log closed Fri Jun 29 17:55:30 2018 --- Log opened Fri Jun 29 17:55:44 2018 2018-06-29T17:55:44 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T17:55:44 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 150 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 149 normal] 2018-06-29T17:56:55 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 77 secs 2018-06-29T17:59:21 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-73-193-6-103.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T18:09:55 -!- sterna [~Adium@h-90-120.A137.corp.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-29T18:12:31 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T18:13:58 -!- emeb [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T18:30:01 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T18:30:15 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-29T18:36:32 < bitmask> oh hell yea, finally got svg working fully 2018-06-29T18:36:44 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@emesene/dictator/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-29T18:37:20 < Sadale> ? 2018-06-29T18:37:52 < bitmask> https://i.imgur.com/NaTVlTb.png 2018-06-29T18:37:59 < bitmask> converting svg to pen plotter code 2018-06-29T18:39:44 < Sadale> wow. What OS itis 2018-06-29T18:40:05 < bitmask> web interface I designed 2018-06-29T18:40:07 < Steffanx> BitMaskOs 2018-06-29T18:40:08 < Sadale> It looks cool, tho. :) 2018-06-29T18:40:13 < bitmask> thanks 2018-06-29T18:40:29 < bitmask> http://www.robertfeddeler.com/ 2018-06-29T18:40:43 < Steffanx> You know what looks cool. My $15 4 layer pcb. Incl the plated slots 2018-06-29T18:40:50 < bitmask> pics? 2018-06-29T18:41:17 < karlp> whenw as the last time you ever saw a workpic from steffanx? 2018-06-29T18:41:18 < Steffanx> Not yet 2018-06-29T18:41:30 < Steffanx> When was the first time? 2018-06-29T18:41:36 < Sadale> interesting site. 2018-06-29T18:42:53 < Steffanx> Better tell me about the first time karlp 2018-06-29T18:43:00 < Sadale> what's that site about? 2018-06-29T18:43:03 < Steffanx> As thats probably the last one :P 2018-06-29T18:43:08 < Steffanx> Oh no, thats not true 2018-06-29T18:43:54 < bitmask> mine? its a mockup of the web interface for my pen plotter https://youtu.be/lRJGDLmUKmo 2018-06-29T18:43:56 < englishman> arrow is fucking me 2018-06-29T18:44:21 * Sadale clicks 2018-06-29T18:44:52 < Sadale> bitmask, looks cool! 2018-06-29T18:44:57 < bitmask> thanks 2018-06-29T18:45:08 < Sadale> anyway, I gotta sleep soon. :3 2018-06-29T18:45:08 -!- drzacek [~drzacek@b941c009.business.dg-w.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-29T18:45:09 < bitmask> its my first 3d printing project so I figured id have some fun with it and design it like a castle :) 2018-06-29T18:45:14 < bitmask> laterz 2018-06-29T18:45:31 < Sadale> I see. So it's sort of a 3d printer. But it only draw stuffs instead of printing 3D parts, right? 2018-06-29T18:45:37 < bitmask> right 2018-06-29T18:45:41 < Sadale> cool! :) 2018-06-29T19:08:20 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: R0b0t1, ohama, johntramp, jadew, brabo, Laurenceb, mawk, Cracki, nn7, ReadError_, (+133 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 2018-06-29T19:14:37 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T19:14:45 -!- Netsplit over, joins: funnel, ohama, ntfreak, @ChanServ, TheSeven, scrts, markus-k, specing, aandrew, varesa_ (+133 more) 2018-06-29T19:15:31 < Steffanx> https://imgur.com/a/8UsITkF there you go karlp. I'll never do that use boxed header again. Same with boxes around the caps/resistors. And lack of boxes around other crap, but i was lazy :P 2018-06-29T19:15:43 < karlp> spotted zyp putting tagconnect shits everywhere again: https://cdn.sparkfun.com//assets/parts/1/2/8/6/8/14670-PureThermal_2-_FLiR_Lepton_Dev_Board-01.jpg 2018-06-29T19:16:14 < englishman> jeez stefs 2018-06-29T19:16:41 < englishman> also, boxes around resistors, rounded boxes around caps = pro 2018-06-29T19:16:47 < Steffanx> no 2018-06-29T19:16:51 < englishman> untented vias = nonpro 2018-06-29T19:16:58 < Steffanx> no, i did that kinda on purpuse. 2018-06-29T19:17:00 < englishman> especially untented vias with silk overtop 2018-06-29T19:17:02 < Steffanx> purpose 2018-06-29T19:17:14 < Steffanx> because i was too lazy to add the test points :P 2018-06-29T19:17:20 < englishman> that's fine then 2018-06-29T19:17:51 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qjpofultgodxwrai] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-29T19:17:55 < englishman> it could cause soldering problems like on D1, R11 if they are close 2018-06-29T19:18:21 < Steffanx> but this is pure hobby bobby wanted to try something grade. 2018-06-29T19:18:31 < englishman> that swd header tho 2018-06-29T19:18:33 < Steffanx> so schematic, route, order. Fix stuff later 2018-06-29T19:18:38 < Steffanx> yes, im not sure what whas wrong with me 2018-06-29T19:18:45 < Steffanx> and it's even wrong :P 2018-06-29T19:18:53 < englishman> do you have pin 1 dots on U2 on inside and outside? 2018-06-29T19:19:14 < englishman> ah yes same with U4 2018-06-29T19:19:35 < englishman> C8, C18 are what? 2018-06-29T19:19:38 < Steffanx> must be alitdongs auto generated. 2018-06-29T19:19:46 < englishman> auto generated :( 2018-06-29T19:19:53 < karlp> vpro, includes usb esd protection 2018-06-29T19:20:22 < Steffanx> come one, you dont expect me to not use that tool englishman 2018-06-29T19:20:57 * karlp wants to know what c8/c18 are too 2018-06-29T19:21:12 < karlp> "earbud demand is exploding, make it your market" 2018-06-29T19:21:14 < karlp> nice ads TI 2018-06-29T19:21:42 < Steffanx> and c14 too englishman? 2018-06-29T19:21:48 < englishman> yes 2018-06-29T19:22:11 < Steffanx> x2y cap 2018-06-29T19:24:53 < englishman> neat 2018-06-29T19:25:04 < Steffanx> https://nl.mouser.com/datasheet/2/611/jdi-x2y-1313433.pdf it's "exactly" what's on page 12 2018-06-29T19:26:13 < Steffanx> and dont forget im not a pcberpro. Just irc pro. It's not my daily job :P 2018-06-29T19:26:16 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-29T19:26:40 -!- MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-29T19:26:42 < englishman> so esl decreases from 300-500 pH to 50-70pH 2018-06-29T19:26:54 < englishman> but this layout does not seem to require such high speed signals 2018-06-29T19:27:25 -!- MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T19:27:25 -!- branjb [~pseudosin@c-73-24-157-174.hsd1.az.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-29T19:28:05 < englishman> as emi filters they look handy 2018-06-29T19:28:37 < Steffanx> its just that. In front of a ina 2018-06-29T19:28:42 < Steffanx> just some tiny filter 2018-06-29T19:29:15 < englishman> could save some space when used as double-decoupling caps 2018-06-29T19:34:55 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-29T19:36:43 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T19:38:41 < Steffanx> so you really do lqfp stuff manually englishman? 2018-06-29T19:38:47 < englishman> ? 2018-06-29T19:39:01 < englishman> in what context did i say that? 2018-06-29T19:39:11 < englishman> oh you mean footprint design? 2018-06-29T19:39:34 < Steffanx> yessir 2018-06-29T19:40:53 < englishman> 50/50 i guess 2018-06-29T19:41:00 < englishman> i use the ipc generator and massage it after 2018-06-29T19:41:13 < englishman> doing it by hand takes about the same time 2018-06-29T19:41:28 < englishman> proper use of paste array makes it quick 2018-06-29T19:44:30 < Steffanx> ok. As non-pro i see no need for that, yet 2018-06-29T19:44:40 < Steffanx> Im ok with filling in some boxes 2018-06-29T19:46:57 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T19:55:12 < bitmask> hmm the same svg -> plotter code, one using polylines and the other using bezier paths goes from 250kb to 4.4mb 2018-06-29T19:55:22 < bitmask> I think my bezier resolution is too high 2018-06-29T19:58:14 < bitmask> https://i.imgur.com/6lD52iR.png 2018-06-29T19:58:15 < bitmask> nice 2018-06-29T19:59:56 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tigzktybrfiuekth] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:00:06 < Steffanx> Happy birthday to you too bitmask 2018-06-29T20:00:10 < bitmask> :) 2018-06-29T20:00:24 < bitmask> this pack of samples from axidraw is pretty useful 2018-06-29T20:03:46 < englishman> dongs https://www.elecrow.com/10-1-inch-ips-2k-portable-display-supports-hdr-for-raspberry-pi-ps4-xbox-ns.html 2018-06-29T20:19:25 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:25:44 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2018-06-29T20:30:51 < bitmask> https://youtu.be/clUfhhEP218 2018-06-29T20:30:52 < bitmask> woo 2018-06-29T20:32:38 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-29T20:34:12 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:35:43 -!- day_ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:38:10 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-29T20:38:12 -!- day_ is now known as day 2018-06-29T20:38:48 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-29T20:39:13 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:42:26 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-29T20:47:17 -!- day_ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:47:44 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:47:44 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-29T20:47:44 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T20:49:30 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-29T20:49:36 -!- day_ is now known as day 2018-06-29T20:50:25 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-29T20:59:45 -!- enh [~enhering@138.219.128.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-29T21:02:46 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T21:03:26 -!- comptroller [~comptroll@47-213-222-253.paolcmtc01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T21:13:58 < Steffanx> can i do a drawing bitmask? 2018-06-29T21:14:04 < bitmask> NO! 2018-06-29T21:14:28 < bitmask> svg > Steffanx 2018-06-29T21:15:47 < Steffanx> you keep disappointing me bitmask 2018-06-29T21:16:35 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T21:16:56 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T21:23:46 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-29T21:33:25 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-29T21:38:00 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T21:46:02 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-29T21:53:09 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-29T22:00:44 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cnvwqxwnmikygcmi] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-29T22:03:18 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T22:06:01 < BrainDamage> can you print animated svg? 2018-06-29T22:09:13 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T22:14:15 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-29T22:16:15 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T22:16:24 < vampi-the-frog> is unobtainium easy to obtain? 2018-06-29T22:19:31 < Steffanx> is vampy a frong? 2018-06-29T22:19:34 < Steffanx> *frog 2018-06-29T22:19:54 < vampi-the-frog> hello? 2018-06-29T22:19:58 < vampi-the-frog> is this the internet? 2018-06-29T22:24:48 < Steffanx> wrong door vampi-the-frog 2018-06-29T22:25:48 < BrainDamage> we have no unobtanium, but if you want, we have plenty of chinesium 2018-06-29T22:26:03 < BrainDamage> it can replace any material you want, crappily, but it costs nothing 2018-06-29T22:27:04 < bitmask> of course I can print animated svg, you think I'm bound by physics? 2018-06-29T22:27:10 < bitmask> psh 2018-06-29T22:29:29 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-29T22:35:49 < Thorn> https://twitter.com/CindyOtis_/status/1012488916178436096 2018-06-29T22:36:45 < Steffanx> tldr Thorn 2018-06-29T22:37:39 < BrainDamage> it self contradicts within 5 posts 2018-06-29T22:38:11 < BrainDamage> point 1 don't ignore news - point 5. close news sources and do something else 2018-06-29T22:38:18 < BrainDamage> sorry, point 4 2018-06-29T22:38:50 < vampi-the-frog> she's fat 2018-06-29T22:38:55 < Thorn> aiui the idea is to do it regularly, not once and for all 2018-06-29T22:39:47 < BrainDamage> it still literally self contradict itself, you're shutting out the sources of depressing infos 2018-06-29T22:40:03 < BrainDamage> and replace them with positive behaviour like local community activity 2018-06-29T22:41:55 < BrainDamage> and the fact that the same reasoning applies to mass media means that either global reporting is intrinsecally incompatible with human behaviour for mental health, or that it's biased towards negative reports, which still makes it incompatible 2018-06-29T22:42:04 < BrainDamage> otherwise you wouldn't require active action against 2018-06-29T22:44:39 -!- barthess [~barthess@nat-16-metro-pool-1-ip-2.cosmostv.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-29T22:49:05 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has left ##stm32 ["Leaving"] 2018-06-29T22:50:14 < invzim> boooo 2018-06-29T22:50:21 < invzim> bought a cheap flux pen off ebay 2018-06-29T22:50:22 < invzim> it's crap 2018-06-29T22:51:24 < Steffanx> awh 2018-06-29T22:51:28 < Thorn> I bought 2 "Kester" pens last year, it's a WMD. the vapor is caustic as hell, could be worse than tear gas lol 2018-06-29T22:52:14 < BrainDamage> if there's one thing that I learned is that you don't skimp on flux and solder 2018-06-29T22:52:21 < invzim> this flux is thin and liquidy and just drips all around, kind of defeating the purpose of a pen 2018-06-29T22:52:26 < BrainDamage> I bought some shitty solder, man, how much I regret that 2018-06-29T22:52:47 < invzim> my el-cheapo gel-like flux is actually very nice 2018-06-29T22:53:36 < invzim> a no-doubt clone of the lous rossman jizz 2018-06-29T22:53:41 < invzim> louis 2018-06-29T22:54:32 < invzim> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Genuine-2pcs-lot-10cc-AMTECH-NC-559-ASM-Flux-paste-lead-free-solder-flux-Needles/32331668231.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d50LJea 2018-06-29T22:58:18 < invzim> CircuitWorks CW8100 is the stuff I ran out off, got to remember to add it next time I buy something proper 2018-06-29T23:06:37 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-29T23:07:55 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T23:12:35 < Steffanx> So you measured all the voltages, checked stuff, finally connect the newly soldered usb device to your pc and... NOTHING. 2018-06-29T23:12:38 < Steffanx> you check and check. 2018-06-29T23:12:48 < Steffanx> And then it turns out to be a faulty usb cable -_- 2018-06-29T23:13:28 < BrainDamage> have you tried to plug it up your ass and unplug? 2018-06-29T23:13:46 < Steffanx> Hello BrainDamage. How are you today? 2018-06-29T23:14:16 < BrainDamage> same as usual 2018-06-29T23:15:01 < Steffanx> im glad to hear that. 2018-06-29T23:15:02 < Steffanx> ty 2018-06-29T23:16:34 < Steffanx> What do you do to your faulty usb cables? 2018-06-29T23:18:11 < invzim> Steffanx: powerbank cable with only vusb and gnd connected? 2018-06-29T23:18:14 < BrainDamage> I never estabilished a disposal procedure, if you were to ask me on the spot, I'd tie them in a cat-o-nine-tails and then proceed to whip whorever left a faulty cable around 2018-06-29T23:19:47 < Steffanx> I dont know why i would have such cable, invzim 2018-06-29T23:20:01 < Steffanx> But i cut it in half and it went into the trashbin 2018-06-29T23:20:03 < BrainDamage> I have one of those 2018-06-29T23:20:23 < BrainDamage> I used to use it back when assdroid didn't have popup to enable file transfer 2018-06-29T23:20:43 < BrainDamage> I didn't like the idea that anything I'd plug my phone into would have access to the whole data storage 2018-06-29T23:21:16 < Steffanx> :) 2018-06-29T23:21:27 < BrainDamage> even without autism about malicious intent, shitty software could delete files 2018-06-29T23:26:43 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yhuqvjtuujtjnyuv] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T23:38:48 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-29T23:39:16 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T23:40:52 < Cracki> >compiles everything because only source can be trusted 2018-06-29T23:40:55 < Cracki> >hunter2 2018-06-29T23:41:36 < stvn> lol 2018-06-29T23:41:36 < englishman> there was a wonderful lunix 4 negroes banner up for several hours yesterday 2018-06-29T23:41:50 < stvn> can i see 2018-06-29T23:43:07 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T23:43:21 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-29T23:44:25 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-44ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-29T23:45:15 < Cracki> gief 2018-06-29T23:45:38 < Cracki> TIL: rotherham police took their cut of the child nookie 2018-06-29T23:53:39 < jadew> that's why I don't use linux 2018-06-29T23:54:08 < jadew> full of hacks 2018-06-29T23:55:56 < jadew> invzim, the flux you linked is good? 2018-06-29T23:57:13 < jadew> I bought a bottle of liquid flux a couple of years ago and I'm keeping small amounts in a nail polish bottle, my wife gave me 2018-06-29T23:57:18 < jadew> I dispense it with the brush 2018-06-29T23:57:43 < jadew> works great and it lasts A LOT 2018-06-29T23:58:03 < jadew> you can easily control where flux gets applied 2018-06-29T23:59:34 < karlp> yeah, we got some that comes in a jar with a brush like that. --- Day changed Sat Jun 30 2018 2018-06-30T00:01:21 < jadew> how can you find out if a name is trademarked? 2018-06-30T00:05:19 < jadew> http://i.imgur.com/cDLnOPv.gifv 2018-06-30T00:05:42 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-30T00:09:22 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@c-66-31-1-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-30T00:10:24 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T00:10:54 < stvn> lol it's like chimps at the zoo 2018-06-30T00:10:57 * stvn hides 2018-06-30T00:11:03 -!- dekar [~dekar@port-92-192-79-69.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 2018-06-30T00:12:26 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-30T00:13:00 < Steffanx> Hello Welcome stvn. 2018-06-30T00:13:16 < jadew> god... I fucking hate it when prints fail at the end 2018-06-30T00:13:41 < jadew> 94% and got a layer shift because it started filling a small wall at super speed 2018-06-30T00:13:51 < stvn> hi stffn 2018-06-30T00:14:49 < BrainDamage> get a wire saw, then saw off the layers 2018-06-30T00:14:54 < BrainDamage> then you can resume printing 2018-06-30T00:15:05 < jadew> it started printing in air 2018-06-30T00:15:32 < jadew> and I don't know how to resume from a specific layer 2018-06-30T00:15:58 < BrainDamage> edit the gspot code 2018-06-30T00:16:47 < jadew> I'm sure it's something that can be fixed in the settings, if the slicer actually knows how to prevent this kind of jerking 2018-06-30T00:22:58 < bitmask> I gotta get my printer working again 2018-06-30T00:23:10 < PaulFertser> jadew: what slicer are you using? 2018-06-30T00:23:23 < bitmask> need to print new pen holders, but the damn thing wont extrude 2018-06-30T00:23:38 < jadew> PaulFertser, slic3r 2018-06-30T00:23:56 < PaulFertser> jadew: print settings -> speed -> gaps 2018-06-30T00:24:27 < jadew> thanks 2018-06-30T00:24:35 < PaulFertser> And there's infill -> fill gaps which you can probably disable 2018-06-30T00:25:01 < jadew> that affects only the inner layers? 2018-06-30T00:25:28 < PaulFertser> Yes, those that it detects as "gaps". Checking preview is recommended. 2018-06-30T00:25:48 < jadew> thanks 2018-06-30T00:26:01 < jadew> how low should I make the gap fill speed? 2018-06-30T00:26:10 < PaulFertser> And if your printer jerks so much it skips layers you should limit acceleration which can be done in speed -> acceleration control. 2018-06-30T00:26:50 < jadew> it's at 2000 now (infill acceleration) 2018-06-30T00:26:52 < PaulFertser> I have gaps set to 60 for the recent prints. 2018-06-30T00:27:06 < jadew> mine is set at 40 2018-06-30T00:27:39 < jadew> the printer is actually shaking when filling those small gaps, so maybe it's just the acceleration in this case? 2018-06-30T00:27:56 < PaulFertser> I have 3000 limit for travel moves and 1500 for printing moves. And I also had to limit it to 200 mm/s^2 for perimeters. 2018-06-30T00:28:41 < PaulFertser> But skipping a step due to shaking? Probably not enough current to the motors for whatever reason. 2018-06-30T00:28:53 < jadew> it's not skipping one 2018-06-30T00:29:03 < jadew> it's shifting like 5-7 mm 2018-06-30T00:29:38 < PaulFertser> On X axis? 2018-06-30T00:29:51 < jadew> on Y, the one with the bed 2018-06-30T00:30:19 < PaulFertser> Hm, it's heavier but it doesn't skip on my printer. Probably the belt is overtight? 2018-06-30T00:30:57 < jadew> don't know... I checked the belt, seems fine, but I never saw another printer before, so it's hard to tell 2018-06-30T00:32:21 < PaulFertser> If you have easy means to adjust it you can experiment. You can use slic3r's cut tool to extract only the "interesting" fragment from your part. 2018-06-30T00:33:09 < jadew> good idea, I'll do that 2018-06-30T00:33:30 < PaulFertser> Regarding how to continue from a certain layer, you can hand-edit the gcode file and remove all the layers already printed. 2018-06-30T00:33:58 < jadew> ah, neat 2018-06-30T00:34:01 < jadew> that's good to know 2018-06-30T00:34:25 < PaulFertser> That'd be the simplest way. You can just search for the G1.*Z in there 2018-06-30T00:34:29 < PaulFertser> Or something like that. 2018-06-30T00:34:31 < bitmask> what are your jerk settings? 2018-06-30T00:34:36 < bitmask> that can make a big difference 2018-06-30T00:34:54 < jadew> where can I find them? 2018-06-30T00:35:04 < bitmask> thats in your pinter menu/config file, not slicer 2018-06-30T00:35:16 < jadew> oh, let me check 2018-06-30T00:35:44 < bitmask> thats the value it goes from 0 to whatever the jerk setting is, its like instant acceleration, then after that it uses the regular acceleration to get up to whatever speed 2018-06-30T00:36:22 < bitmask> you dont want it too low because then your corners will suffer but its usually too high from what Ive read 2018-06-30T00:37:35 < PaulFertser> "MAX_JERK 20" here 2018-06-30T00:37:52 < bitmask> I use 10-15 I think 2018-06-30T00:38:00 < bitmask> havent checked in a while 2018-06-30T00:40:00 < PaulFertser> https://www.repetier.com/documentation/repetier-firmware/rf-installation/ jerk control section 2018-06-30T00:40:33 < bitmask> nice, just got an email my financial aid refund check is being mailed, gonna get a titan aero when I cash it 2018-06-30T00:41:51 < Steffanx> What about using the aid to get something you really need? 2018-06-30T00:42:00 < jadew> M503 yields: M201 X9000 Y9000 Z500 E10000 2018-06-30T00:42:04 < bitmask> you always do that, stop being a party pooper 2018-06-30T00:42:09 < jadew> that's my accelaration settings in the printer 2018-06-30T00:42:11 < Steffanx> Or use it to find a job to pay foe it yourself bitmask !) 2018-06-30T00:42:12 < Steffanx> ;) 2018-06-30T00:42:16 < bitmask> its only 100 bucks :/ 2018-06-30T00:42:47 < jadew> can someone else check what their values are? 2018-06-30T00:43:05 < jadew> M503 seems to output some internal settings 2018-06-30T00:43:18 < bitmask> those are standard defaults but I lower them a lot 2018-06-30T00:43:31 < Steffanx> Sure. I just try to understand why you spend the "free" money on your hobby bitmask 2018-06-30T00:43:53 < bitmask> I have mine at like X5000 y4000 z50 e1000 or something like that 2018-06-30T00:43:56 < PaulFertser> bitmask: why not bowden? 2018-06-30T00:43:59 < bitmask> I can check it later if you want 2018-06-30T00:44:17 < jadew> thanks 2018-06-30T00:44:28 < bitmask> bowden just seems to cause problems, I dont care about speed so I wouldn't benefit 2018-06-30T00:44:53 < jadew> what's bowden? 2018-06-30T00:45:07 < bitmask> the aero is geared 3:1 so you can use a pancake stepper and must be pretty light 2018-06-30T00:45:34 < PaulFertser> jadew: those values are overriden if you enable that acceleration control in slic3r 2018-06-30T00:45:38 < bitmask> bowden is when you have the extruder stepper off the x axis and mounted on the frame 2018-06-30T00:45:48 < bitmask> it pushes the filament through a ptfe tube into the hotend remotely 2018-06-30T00:45:58 < jadew> PaulFertser, I don't see any M201 command in the generated g-code 2018-06-30T00:46:17 < jadew> bitmask, got it 2018-06-30T00:46:18 < bitmask> it takes a lot of weight off the moving x axis so your can print faster at the same quality 2018-06-30T00:46:22 < jadew> yeah 2018-06-30T00:46:35 < bitmask> but causes problems with certain filaments, especially flex stuff 2018-06-30T00:46:43 < bitmask> and you cant retract as well 2018-06-30T00:48:33 < PaulFertser> jadew: do you see non-zero default_acceleration setting at the end of gcode in comments? 2018-06-30T00:48:53 < jadew> let me search 2018-06-30T00:49:05 < jadew> ; default_acceleration = 1000 2018-06-30T00:51:13 -!- dale6998 [~dale6998@cpe-104-228-210-218.maine.res.rr.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T00:51:29 < PaulFertser> Hm, for me slicer emits both M201 and M204 2018-06-30T00:51:40 < PaulFertser> But I have non-zero perimeter acceleration. 2018-06-30T00:51:55 < PaulFertser> Reprap gcode flavour 2018-06-30T00:52:03 < jadew> so do I 2018-06-30T00:52:10 < jadew> perimeter acceleration is set at 800 2018-06-30T00:52:34 < PaulFertser> (no I idea why I do not use Repetier gcode there...) 2018-06-30T00:52:58 -!- joe540 [6baba9a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.171.169.166] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T00:54:04 < bitmask> someone made my thing :) https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2964028 2018-06-30T00:54:48 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T00:57:44 < jadew> you didn't add plexiglass yet 2018-06-30T00:57:50 < jadew> I have a different enclosure 2018-06-30T00:57:58 < bitmask> not yet, probably wont for a while 2018-06-30T00:57:59 < jadew> also from ikea 2018-06-30T00:58:27 < bitmask> I just use pla and petg so no real need 2018-06-30T00:58:29 < jadew> I wanted to make the same one you have, but couldn't find transparent plexiglass (or was too expensive) 2018-06-30T00:58:35 < jadew> so I went for something else intead 2018-06-30T00:59:30 < jadew> petg is not toxic when heated? 2018-06-30T00:59:40 < jadew> btw, I isolated that part and I can replicate the shift 2018-06-30T01:00:02 < jadew> I'm going to manually add M201 and see what happens 2018-06-30T01:01:05 < jadew> what's the e-axis? 2018-06-30T01:01:12 < PaulFertser> https://www.thissmarthouse.net/dont-burn-your-house-down-3d-printing-a-cautionary-tale/ 2018-06-30T01:01:12 < bitmask> extruder 2018-06-30T01:01:15 < jadew> thanks 2018-06-30T01:08:44 -!- joe540 [6baba9a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.107.171.169.166] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 2018-06-30T01:10:04 < jadew> I added M201 X1000 Y1000 E600 and it didn't shift anymore 2018-06-30T01:10:12 < jadew> (found those values on a forum) 2018-06-30T01:10:52 < jadew> they seem very low compared to what I have now 2018-06-30T01:10:59 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-30T01:12:57 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-44ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-30T01:30:54 < englishman> i'm using LTC2954ITS8-1 in a project, but it's expensive as fuck, what's a good chink clone? 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2018-06-30T06:53:25 < dongs> https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/products/power/supervisors-voltage-monitors-sequencers/MAX16054.html 2018-06-30T06:55:34 < dongs> lol @ that LTC part 2018-06-30T06:55:40 < dongs> $5 button controller??? 2018-06-30T06:55:42 < englishman> yea 2018-06-30T06:55:50 < dongs> they even managed to beat maxim 2018-06-30T06:55:51 < englishman> tired of buying em 2018-06-30T06:56:01 < englishman> ST660x does way more too 2018-06-30T06:56:09 < englishman> STM660x 2018-06-30T06:56:14 < dongs> right 2018-06-30T06:56:25 < englishman> the number is bigger than STM32 too 2018-06-30T06:57:14 < dongs> http://www.ti.com/product/TPS3422 2018-06-30T06:57:26 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-44ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T06:57:39 < dongs> ah, just reset thing 2018-06-30T06:57:46 < dongs> not onoff or hwatever 2018-06-30T06:58:41 -!- Thorn [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-30T06:59:06 < dongs> ST looks ok if cheap enough 2018-06-30T07:00:48 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-30T07:01:26 < englishman> important for me, is i am driving it with pp or od 2018-06-30T07:02:00 < dongs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDL8yu34fz0 is this a troll 2018-06-30T07:02:01 < englishman> anyway it's way cheaper and i dont have to buy dumb LT parts so il try it next rev 2018-06-30T07:03:44 < englishman> can i eat totoro at that sushi place 2018-06-30T07:13:22 -!- Thorn__ [~Thorn@unaffiliated/thorn] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T07:14:25 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-30T07:22:33 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@172.92.208.198] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T07:26:42 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T07:33:43 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-30T07:36:23 -!- day_ [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T07:39:35 -!- day [~Unknown@unaffiliated/day] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-30T07:39:39 -!- day_ is now known as day 2018-06-30T08:06:27 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T08:07:02 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T08:26:26 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-30T08:48:48 -!- stvn [uid304681@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bohlwjzxnhiyxwot] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2018-06-30T08:49:11 < Thorn__> https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkmz2ULAr_h/ 2018-06-30T08:49:42 -!- Thorn__ is now known as Thorn 2018-06-30T08:56:20 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-30T08:56:39 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T09:08:01 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-30T09:23:18 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-tigzktybrfiuekth] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T09:33:11 -!- tairaeza [~tairaeza@soyuz.whatbox.ca] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T09:40:28 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-44ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-30T09:40:31 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-44ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T09:51:30 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.9.2 Aria http://www.kvirc.net/] 2018-06-30T09:54:39 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-30T09:56:10 -!- Jak_o_Shadows [~Jak@unaffiliated/jak-o-shadows/x-0479135] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T09:56:33 -!- Chris_M [~Chris_M@203-217-76-24.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T10:07:24 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-190.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T10:31:48 -!- BoyHolthausen [boyholthau@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pcedejtpwzyrajoh] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T11:05:36 < Sadale> dongs, lol 2018-06-30T11:06:59 < dongs> ikr? 2018-06-30T11:07:55 < Sadale> dongs, that's a funny one. I'm going to reshare it to a parallel channel 2018-06-30T11:08:03 < dongs> please do 2018-06-30T11:08:12 < dongs> the translations are actually correct 2018-06-30T11:09:04 < Sadale> lolololol 2018-06-30T11:09:08 < Sadale> I can't speak Japanese xD 2018-06-30T11:15:44 < Sadale> What does button controller do? 2018-06-30T11:15:58 < Sadale> like the STM6600 you guys mentioned 2018-06-30T11:18:12 -!- sterna1 [~Adium@c-44ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-30T11:19:17 < dongs> it solves the chicken-egg problem of powering up battery powered portable devices 2018-06-30T11:19:25 < dongs> while using minimum current 2018-06-30T11:19:30 < dongs> and less board space. 2018-06-30T11:19:57 < Sadale> I don't understand :o 2018-06-30T11:20:11 < dongs> a non-latching pushbutton to power things up 2018-06-30T11:20:34 < Sadale> isn't the battery always powering the device when it isn't run out? 2018-06-30T11:20:45 < dongs> not if you want it to last for a while 2018-06-30T11:20:46 < Sadale> oh. a non-latching one. 2018-06-30T11:20:55 < Sadale> I see. cool! 2018-06-30T11:21:10 < dongs> usually its made with a fet and some extra GPIO on mcu 2018-06-30T11:21:15 < Sadale> so if you have run out of battery, the button controller will shut off the circuit, right? 2018-06-30T11:21:26 < dongs> shorting button poweres up mcu which in turn turns on fet and continues powering the board 2018-06-30T11:21:35 < Sadale> Then when the battery is back having power, the device is still off. right? 2018-06-30T11:21:43 < dongs> and yeah, also that 2018-06-30T11:22:09 < Sadale> cool! 2018-06-30T11:31:48 -!- MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-30T11:35:22 -!- sterna [~Adium@c-44ebe155.016-35-62726f1.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T11:37:14 < Sadale> stupid me. No wonder why music playback isn't working. 2018-06-30T11:37:17 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-30T11:37:22 < dongs> you are using lunix? 2018-06-30T11:37:25 < dongs> that would be why 2018-06-30T11:37:34 < dongs> lunix doesnt support audio devices 2018-06-30T11:37:36 < dongs> from this century 2018-06-30T11:37:37 < Sadale> nope. I meant my game console (STM32 mcu) 2018-06-30T11:38:05 < Sadale> I've put the variable that stores the music on the stack. Then I tried playing music with the pointer pointing on that variable. 2018-06-30T11:38:10 < Sadale> s/pointing on/pointing to/ 2018-06-30T11:38:22 < Sadale> took me half a day to figure that out :< 2018-06-30T11:38:54 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T11:39:13 < dongs> good job, but im surprised your compiler didnt bitch about this 2018-06-30T11:39:29 < dongs> that would result in something along the lines of using stack variable as return or wahtever 2018-06-30T11:39:53 < dongs> unles you did shit like int foo; playshit(&foo) which queued it and return; deleting the var 2018-06-30T11:41:08 < Sadale> I did this. Right inside a function: 2018-06-30T11:41:30 < Sadale> uint8_t musicArray[] = {..., ...}; synthPlayMusic(musicArray); 2018-06-30T11:41:37 < Sadale> No compiler warning were generated :< 2018-06-30T11:42:00 < dongs> right, and playmusic is a separate thread that exits after 1st invoke? 2018-06-30T11:42:39 < Sadale> sort of. It's in the same thread, tho. 2018-06-30T11:42:53 < Sadale> But the pointer is stored and it's used after an interrupt is triggered. 2018-06-30T11:42:58 < Sadale> so it's sort of like another thread. 2018-06-30T11:42:58 < dongs> right 2018-06-30T11:43:11 < dongs> anyway making uint static would fix it. 2018-06-30T11:43:14 < dongs> or taking it out of the function. 2018-06-30T11:43:30 < Sadale> right. I did that. 2018-06-30T11:43:45 < dongs> but hm... i still think it would have a warning about passing stack-based variable 2018-06-30T11:43:47 < Sadale> I did static. And I also add "const" to ensure that it end up in the flash memory instead of the RAM. 2018-06-30T11:43:53 < Sadale> hmm. I don't know. 2018-06-30T11:44:04 < Sadale> Whatever. It's fixed. So everything's good I guess :P 2018-06-30T11:49:39 < dongs> hmm 2018-06-30T11:49:45 < dongs> no warnings in clang even with -Weverything 2018-06-30T11:49:54 < Sadale> lolololololol 2018-06-30T11:50:05 < dongs> https://godbolt.org/g/rvqyTR 2018-06-30T11:50:29 < dongs> this is roughly what I guess you had going right 2018-06-30T11:51:03 < Sadale> wow. What's this site 2018-06-30T11:51:14 < dongs> just one of the dozen random online compilers 2018-06-30T11:51:34 < Sadale> dongs, and right. That's resembles what I did. :P 2018-06-30T11:55:06 < dongs> well shit 2018-06-30T12:03:24 < dongs> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/29/california_data_privacy_law/ rip california 2018-06-30T12:13:33 < Sadale> That's a good thing I guess 2018-06-30T12:17:53 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-30T12:18:36 -!- kc2uez [~SKA0ut@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T12:20:01 < kakimir> that is a good thing 2018-06-30T12:27:22 -!- arhs [~aris@unaffiliated/rsha] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T12:38:48 < Steffanx> so did you sleep well this night kakimir? 2018-06-30T12:46:20 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-30T13:14:10 -!- Jybz [~jibz@ip-37-201-6-190.hsi13.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2018-06-30T13:48:15 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.0 - https://znc.in] 2018-06-30T13:49:03 -!- tomeaton17 [~tomeaton1@129.ip-91-134-134.eu] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T14:28:43 -!- MrMobius [~default@c-73-134-82-217.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T14:34:56 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T14:38:10 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T15:00:15 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Disconnected by services] 2018-06-30T15:00:25 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T15:05:09 -!- arhs [~aris@unaffiliated/rsha] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-30T15:20:55 -!- mra90 [~Martin@host-85-202-159-241.sta.tvknaszapraca.pl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T15:49:05 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2018-06-30T15:50:00 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T15:50:17 -!- rajkosto [~Rajko@cable-178-149-121-199.dynamic.sbb.rs] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T15:51:16 -!- Rickta59 [~kimballr@unaffiliated/rickta59] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T15:53:27 < antto> pff 2018-06-30T15:55:19 < Steffanx> welcome antto and superbia 2018-06-30T15:55:32 < antto> i've been here the whole time 2018-06-30T15:55:38 < antto> not sure why 2018-06-30T15:55:48 < Steffanx> and that would make you less welcome? 2018-06-30T15:55:58 < antto> of course 2018-06-30T15:56:19 < antto> what are the requirements of saying "welcome" to someone? 2018-06-30T15:56:33 < antto> shouldn't he have just arrived? 2018-06-30T15:58:24 < Steffanx> in my world you just arrived. 2018-06-30T15:58:59 < antto> ur world is wrong ;P~ 2018-06-30T15:59:54 < Steffanx> ok 2018-06-30T16:01:43 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T16:01:43 < Steffanx> did you say hi ti tct? 2018-06-30T16:02:59 < Steffanx> where in the swisserland where you? 2018-06-30T16:08:05 -!- [7] [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 2018-06-30T16:08:33 -!- TheSeven [~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T16:11:19 < Steffanx> is dutchland next superbia? 2018-06-30T16:13:43 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T16:13:43 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-30T16:13:43 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T16:14:18 < vampi-the-frog> you went to the future? 2018-06-30T16:21:49 < englishman> dongs, I am pretty sure C has no way of checking for that error 2018-06-30T16:21:55 < dongs> englishman: right 2018-06-30T16:22:13 < dongs> cuz its not like its illegal C. the pointer is valid when its passed. 2018-06-30T16:22:19 < englishman> right 2018-06-30T16:22:20 < dongs> its only invalid when you try to use it 2018-06-30T16:22:29 < dongs> but that becomes your problem at that point. 2018-06-30T16:22:40 < englishman> it's still a valid pointer, there is just nothing there 2018-06-30T16:22:49 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T16:23:25 < Sadale> dongs, I have a hunch that we're in a timezone that's close enough. 2018-06-30T16:23:39 -!- DisruptiveNL [~Disruptiv@5ED42E60.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-30T16:23:43 < dongs> probly? GMT+9 or someshit here. 2018-06-30T16:23:52 < Sadale> dongs, I'm from Hong Kong (a part of China. Political correctness!). 2018-06-30T16:23:54 < Sadale> GMT+8 2018-06-30T16:23:59 < Sadale> indeed. we're very close. 2018-06-30T16:24:00 < Sadale> Japan? 2018-06-30T16:24:05 < dongs> cool. ive been there a couple times. 2018-06-30T16:24:08 < dongs> heading again in november 2018-06-30T16:24:12 < dongs> yeah japan 2018-06-30T16:24:22 < Sadale> cool! What do you visit here for? :) 2018-06-30T16:24:28 < Sadale> I've never been to JApan 2018-06-30T16:25:32 < Sadale> I've seen another user living in Japan in a parallel channel :3 2018-06-30T16:25:55 < Sadale> I don't feel like saying it out here, tho. This channel is publicly logged. :P 2018-06-30T16:26:10 < Steffanx> You must be the first chinese we have here 2018-06-30T16:26:28 < antto> aww 2018-06-30T16:26:31 < dongs> mostly just to waste time, or on the way to china 2018-06-30T16:26:39 < antto> he'll have great moments 2018-06-30T16:26:47 < Sadale> cool! Glad to hear that. :-) 2018-06-30T16:26:57 < antto> :/ 2018-06-30T16:27:12 < Sadale> dongs, weird. why transfer thru Hong Kong? :o 2018-06-30T16:27:21 < dongs> cheap? 2018-06-30T16:27:25 < Steffanx> Cheer up a bit antto 2018-06-30T16:27:27 < Sadale> I see. That's why. 2018-06-30T16:27:33 < dongs> hkexpress flights are liek $30 before fees 2018-06-30T16:27:38 < Sadale> :O 2018-06-30T16:27:45 < Sadale> holy crap! It's that cheap? O_o 2018-06-30T16:27:48 < Sadale> wow 2018-06-30T16:27:51 < Sadale> unbelievable! 2018-06-30T16:29:16 < Sadale> dongs, woah. That's far cheaper than I thought. 2018-06-30T16:29:35 < bitmask> MURICA 2018-06-30T16:29:49 < dongs> yeah. they run specials from time to time, flight in $30 fligt back $1 but then they'll add airport fees and shit and it gets a bit more but still reasonable 2018-06-30T16:29:50 < Sadale> dongs, anyway, I couldn't see any flight that costs $30. 2018-06-30T16:29:55 < dongs> for a ~4 hour flight 2018-06-30T16:30:04 < Sadale> where did you find that? 2018-06-30T16:30:11 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-30T16:30:49 < Sadale> I've turned down a meetup to be held in Japan because of flight cost. According to my previous research it costs like $300 to travel to there. Now I've found that the cost is like $100~$120. I think I should reconsider joining that meetup. 2018-06-30T16:31:04 < Sadale> still I couldn't find a $30 one :P 2018-06-30T16:31:56 < Sadale> oh wait. damn it that $100 is for one-way trip xD 2018-06-30T16:32:38 < Sadale> gtg ttyl :3 2018-06-30T16:32:42 < dongs> have fun 2018-06-30T16:37:30 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2018-06-30T16:39:20 -!- Sadale2 [~Sadale@cm61-18-254-34.hkcable.com.hk] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T16:39:46 -!- Sadale2 [~Sadale@cm61-18-254-34.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Client Quit] 2018-06-30T16:40:50 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T16:45:27 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T16:50:37 < Thorn> wth is https://www.boktech.cc/order 2018-06-30T16:50:59 < Thorn> found an email from them in my spam folder 2018-06-30T16:51:35 < Steffanx> so now you retweet your spam Thorn? :D 2018-06-30T16:52:01 < Thorn> in the off chance they are legit 2018-06-30T17:13:47 -!- con3 [~quassel@ml.sun.ac.za] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T17:30:14 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T17:32:05 -!- enh [~enhering@200.216.160.98] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T17:32:29 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T17:38:57 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2018-06-30T17:39:36 < bitmask> is there a look behind regex? 2018-06-30T17:40:05 < bitmask> how do you match a pattern but not include something, like the look ahead but reversed 2018-06-30T17:40:54 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T17:44:27 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T17:47:32 < Cracki> (?< might be a lookbehind or !< 2018-06-30T17:47:36 < Cracki> depends on impl 2018-06-30T17:47:43 < Cracki> it's strictly speaking not a regular expression anymore 2018-06-30T17:48:04 < Cracki> (?!...) makes the match fail but doesn't consume 2018-06-30T17:48:45 < Cracki> read the fine manual 2018-06-30T17:49:15 < bitmask> ehh I'll do it another way, regex is complicating it 2018-06-30T17:52:22 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T17:55:37 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T18:02:08 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-30T18:07:02 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has quit [Quit: Get up on outta here!] 2018-06-30T18:08:12 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T18:13:12 < Steffanx> https://imgur.com/gallery/JeELCh7 better get started bitmask :) 2018-06-30T18:13:42 -!- upgrdman [~upgrdman@blender/artist/upgrdman] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T18:14:07 < bitmask> nice 2018-06-30T18:14:35 < bitmask> haha the comments 2018-06-30T18:15:13 -!- c4017w__ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T18:18:56 -!- c4017w_ [~c4017@209.52.68.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2018-06-30T18:34:48 < Cracki> either mechanical circles or very fine stepper motor control --- Log closed Sat Jun 30 18:42:46 2018 --- Log opened Sat Jun 30 18:57:13 2018 2018-06-30T18:57:13 -!- jpa- [jpa@hilla.kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T18:57:13 -!- Irssi: ##stm32: Total of 151 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 150 normal] 2018-06-30T18:58:24 -!- Irssi: Join to ##stm32 was synced in 77 secs 2018-06-30T19:02:02 < Steffanx> Did you download the internet Cracki? 2018-06-30T19:02:11 < Cracki> raw fullhd video 2018-06-30T19:02:27 < Cracki> "raw" as in still compressed, but directly from the camera 2018-06-30T19:03:24 < Cracki> 3700 hours of footage, by my rough calculation 2018-06-30T19:04:20 < Cracki> I might go for buying a used LTO drive... the tapes are less than half the price of HDDs 2018-06-30T19:04:42 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-30T19:04:58 < Steffanx> Makes me wonder what kind of footage it is that you HAVE to keep it. 2018-06-30T19:06:01 < Cracki> nobody said "have to" 2018-06-30T19:06:10 < Steffanx> want to, same thing 2018-06-30T19:06:27 < Cracki> currently our compute center keeps it on tapes 2018-06-30T19:06:48 < Cracki> but my time here is nearing its end and I'd like to keep the stuff 2018-06-30T19:08:12 < Steffanx> aha 2018-06-30T19:21:30 -!- emeb_mac [~ericb@ip68-2-65-130.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2018-06-30T19:24:58 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-30T19:25:40 < Cracki> or I could sign up for a second course of study after graduation. they won't care then. 2018-06-30T19:26:53 < Steffanx> no master/phd? 2018-06-30T19:27:08 < Steffanx> Become Dr. like your brother :) 2018-06-30T19:28:09 < Cracki> plan is to finish my CS masters by spring 2018-06-30T19:28:53 < Cracki> after graduation, earning money is the biggest priority 2018-06-30T19:29:12 < Cracki> germany sucks, above 50k/year, they'll tax you 50% or something 2018-06-30T19:29:27 < Steffanx> so dont go for > 50k 2018-06-30T19:29:46 < Cracki> that's shit 2018-06-30T19:30:05 < Steffanx> or finally get rid of that merkel and fix stuff 2018-06-30T19:30:17 < Cracki> gun law is not ideal... 2018-06-30T19:30:31 < Cracki> if it were up to me, merkel and her whole party would be history 2018-06-30T19:31:17 < Cracki> but thanks to you know who, germans are so brainwashed against anything that's an iota to the right of MARX, they can't have any kind of fucking sense 2018-06-30T19:32:05 < Cracki> goddamned socialists love redistributing what isn't theirs 2018-06-30T19:33:21 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T19:33:28 < Steffanx> Does going self-employed help? 2018-06-30T19:34:09 < Cracki> can't be assed to 2018-06-30T19:34:28 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T19:35:13 < Steffanx> heh ok 2018-06-30T19:36:14 < Cracki> self-employment is an aspect of individualism 2018-06-30T19:36:19 < Cracki> it atomizes society 2018-06-30T19:37:51 < Cracki> when I look for companies to hire me, I'm probing them for tolerance of leftists https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=O%E2%80%99Sullivan%E2%80%99s%20Law 2018-06-30T19:39:13 -!- Jybz [~jibz@2a02:8071:9289:5900:4a51:b7ff:fe84:99e6] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T19:39:49 < Steffanx> Googled the name. Read British and stopped reading. 2018-06-30T19:41:27 < Steffanx> Will it happen to ##stm32 too Cracki? 2018-06-30T19:41:32 < Steffanx> are you leftist? 2018-06-30T19:41:48 < Cracki> it won't as long as people are allowed to be abrasive and politically incorrect 2018-06-30T19:42:42 < Steffanx> they can but when it gets annoying they're out :P 2018-06-30T19:42:52 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T19:43:10 < Steffanx> you reminded me of someone 2018-06-30T19:43:16 < Cracki> fair enough 2018-06-30T19:43:24 -!- mode/##stm32 [+q *!*@cca100-pool11.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2018-06-30T19:43:29 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@cca100-pool11.nottingham.ac.uk] by ChanServ 2018-06-30T19:43:29 < Steffanx> wrong cmd 2018-06-30T19:43:37 -!- mode/##stm32 [-q *!*@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] by ChanServ 2018-06-30T19:43:44 < Ultrasauce> and so the cycle begins anew 2018-06-30T19:43:45 < Steffanx> i forgot i did that :P 2018-06-30T19:43:57 < Steffanx> Yes, rebirth Ultrasauce 2018-06-30T19:44:01 < Cracki> I think you can give that a timeout via chanserv 2018-06-30T19:44:28 < Steffanx> that's no fun. I hope to get to a point that i've really forgotten. 2018-06-30T19:44:56 < Ultrasauce> redirect to ##stm32gulag 2018-06-30T19:45:38 < Cracki> gulags are for leftists 2018-06-30T19:46:14 < Cracki> I wonder how many died in gulags... 2018-06-30T19:46:20 < Laurenceb__> sup 2018-06-30T19:46:23 < Ultrasauce> the ops here are all hardcore communists 2018-06-30T19:46:23 < Cracki> ave 2018-06-30T19:46:24 < Steffanx> fuck this entire political spectrumish anyway. 2018-06-30T19:46:49 < Ultrasauce> all who exhibit an iota of individualism are punished 2018-06-30T19:46:51 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T19:47:06 < Cracki> you must be describing ##electronics 2018-06-30T19:47:12 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 2018-06-30T19:47:25 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T19:47:29 < Laurenceb__> muh arduino the channel 2018-06-30T19:47:41 < Steffanx> youre not even there Cracki 2018-06-30T19:47:48 < Cracki> how long is their banlist 2018-06-30T19:48:03 < Cracki> I was there until recently ;) 2018-06-30T19:48:09 < Steffanx> idk&idc 2018-06-30T19:48:27 < Laurenceb__> https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/meet-new-face-ukip-free-12819236?!111 2018-06-30T19:48:43 < Cracki> >dangerous 2018-06-30T19:48:48 < Cracki> they know nothing 2018-06-30T19:49:00 < Steffanx> Will the cycle end this fast today? :P 2018-06-30T19:49:55 < Laurenceb__> supppp 2018-06-30T19:50:38 < Thorn> https://www.instagram.com/p/BjZlYWNAQq8/ ... 2018-06-30T19:50:38 < Laurenceb__> http://archive.is/F6bBR 2018-06-30T19:51:09 < Cracki> adorable kitty 2018-06-30T19:51:49 < Cracki> >vulnerable >making false rape claims 2018-06-30T19:51:57 < Cracki> oh these puppy eyes 2018-06-30T19:53:51 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T19:54:37 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T19:55:35 < Sadale> seems that this channel is more political than I thought. 2018-06-30T19:55:41 < Sadale> I guess it's sort of the culture of this channel :P 2018-06-30T19:55:46 * Sadale is new here BTW 2018-06-30T19:56:46 -!- Laurenceb__ [~laurence@host86-136-22-91.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-30T19:56:54 < Cracki> a vacuum is filled by leftism, so you gotta make sure there isn't 2018-06-30T19:57:23 < Cracki> damn that's a chunky kitteh 2018-06-30T19:58:03 < Steffanx> Good morning Sadale 2018-06-30T19:58:12 < Sadale> oh. good evening. It's midnight here :3 2018-06-30T19:58:15 < Steffanx> you're up early. 2018-06-30T19:58:57 < Steffanx> Did foxcon call or is that not hte kind of work you do? 2018-06-30T19:59:29 < Sadale> foxcon? 2018-06-30T20:00:06 < Steffanx> *foxconn 2018-06-30T20:00:07 < Sadale> oh. foxconn the factory. No wonder why it sounds so familiar to me. 2018-06-30T20:00:23 < Steffanx> Yessir. 2018-06-30T20:00:30 < Sadale> It isn't the sort of work I do. I do embedded programming in my day job. :3 2018-06-30T20:00:40 < Sadale> And I'm a jack of all trades by night. 2018-06-30T20:01:03 < Steffanx> And secretly you're kakimir and/or upgrdman's colleague uh? 2018-06-30T20:01:13 < Steffanx> Checking up on them 2018-06-30T20:01:29 -!- Streaker [~Streaker@unaffiliated/streaker] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T20:01:34 < Sadale> nope 2018-06-30T20:01:42 < Sadale> who are they? 2018-06-30T20:02:02 < Sadale> They also do embedded programming? or they have been to China at some point of their live? 2018-06-30T20:02:07 < Sadale> I'm confused :/ 2018-06-30T20:02:39 < Steffanx> confusing you is my job. 2018-06-30T20:02:45 < Steffanx> you'll learn one day 2018-06-30T20:03:58 < Sadale> I see. :p 2018-06-30T20:04:06 < Sadale> I guess you're a troll then. =P 2018-06-30T20:04:11 * Sadale will keep that in mind :D 2018-06-30T20:04:49 < Steffanx> A certain jappy would probably call me a pumper. 2018-06-30T20:05:56 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Gone to sleep...] 2018-06-30T20:06:47 < Steffanx> so who/what brings you to ##stm32 Sadale? 2018-06-30T20:07:06 < Sadale> Someone in #arduino brought me here :P 2018-06-30T20:07:21 < Sadale> I asked a question there. The question doesn't have much to do with Arduino. 2018-06-30T20:07:22 < Steffanx> oh no, not sure who is the troll now anymore :P 2018-06-30T20:08:07 < Sadale> Then I told them a bit about my project and they find out that I'm using STM32 chip. (yeah, I know. But the question has nothing to do with arduino anyway. I just find that those people are able to answer it. That's why I asked there. And they did answer my question) 2018-06-30T20:08:16 < Sadale> then one of the user leaded me here. 2018-06-30T20:08:24 < Sadale> so here I am :) 2018-06-30T20:08:41 < Thorn> it was dongs in a make;r mask 2018-06-30T20:08:47 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-30T20:08:54 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T20:09:58 < Steffanx> is that some kind of cosplay thing Thorn? 2018-06-30T20:10:25 < Thorn> I assumed it would be disguise 2018-06-30T20:14:21 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T20:15:01 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T20:15:48 -!- nn7 [~nn7@c-73-181-124-81.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2018-06-30T20:26:49 < Thorn> German music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNO1kesVzTM 2018-06-30T20:34:50 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T20:35:29 < kakimir> so flat 2018-06-30T20:35:44 < kakimir> is it whole song like that? 2018-06-30T20:36:11 < kakimir> Sadale: welcome to amongst the pros 2018-06-30T20:37:47 < kakimir> so pro that I even repair my car with advices from this channel 2018-06-30T20:40:37 -!- boB_K7IQ [~boB_K7IQ@172.92.208.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2018-06-30T20:47:31 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2018-06-30T20:53:26 -!- sykemyke [syke@kapsi.fi] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T20:58:25 < Streaker> I love this channel 2018-06-30T20:58:41 < Streaker> This is where I learned how to masturbate 2018-06-30T20:58:53 < Cracki> this is a better example of x-rx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkKWCvL9PKM 2018-06-30T20:59:42 < Steffanx> "better". 2018-06-30T20:59:58 < Thorn> what about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5asWrX4JJDQ 2018-06-30T21:00:14 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@pool-100-35-64-150.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T21:02:11 < kakimir> I'm making disk image of failing harddrive 2018-06-30T21:02:20 < kakimir> I need to repair it's filesystem 2018-06-30T21:02:28 < kakimir> then shrink the filesystem 2018-06-30T21:02:35 < kakimir> to fit in ssd 2018-06-30T21:02:45 < kakimir> then dd it into ssd 2018-06-30T21:08:32 < kakimir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv1XUyRqcGU musics 2018-06-30T21:08:45 < kakimir> Quixotic - Palms 2018-06-30T21:15:57 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T21:24:17 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T21:24:17 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@5-12-233-199.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Changing host] 2018-06-30T21:24:17 -!- vampi-the-frog [~vampi@unaffiliated/vampirefrog] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T21:24:49 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T21:40:35 < Steffanx> is mr zyp alive, awake and around? 2018-06-30T21:43:35 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2018-06-30T21:43:43 < zyp> Steffanx, I'm in a cabin in the middle of nowhere 2018-06-30T21:43:57 < Steffanx> hah then probably nevermind. 2018-06-30T21:44:01 < zyp> (but I pulled out my laptop because I finished my book and I need to find and buy another) 2018-06-30T21:44:08 < zyp> no, no, it's ok 2018-06-30T21:44:41 < Steffanx> I was going to ask something about what you did for F0/L0 and laks, but im not ready yet to ask the right question 2018-06-30T21:44:46 -!- scrts [~quassel@unaffiliated/scrts] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T21:50:19 < Steffanx> Was looking for the project, but failed to find it. As you said f0 and l0 use the same usb stuff. 2018-06-30T21:54:25 < kakimir> lunix pumps 2018-06-30T21:54:37 < kakimir> how to mount image as block device 2018-06-30T21:54:42 < kakimir> but not mount partitions 2018-06-30T21:55:12 < zyp> Steffanx, yeah, you'll just have to make sure the driver gets instanced on f0 2018-06-30T21:56:01 < Steffanx> I noticed you did do some f0 stuff, but never merged that to the master. 2018-06-30T21:56:14 < zyp> yes, that's also right 2018-06-30T21:56:38 < zyp> I realized M0 is crap without SCB_VTOR and ditched all plans I had for it 2018-06-30T21:56:44 < Steffanx> I'll see how it goes. 2018-06-30T21:57:56 < zyp> ok, I'm leaving again for now 2018-06-30T21:58:16 < zyp> I'll be home tomorrow night, probably won't be around much before then 2018-06-30T21:58:26 < zyp> but I'll read backlog 2018-06-30T21:58:32 < zyp> if I get highlighted 2018-06-30T21:58:44 < Steffanx> Enjoy the middle of nowhere 2018-06-30T22:01:06 < PaulFertser> kakimir: mount means mount a filesystem, and if a disk has several partitions, then you can't "mount" the whole disk obviously. 2018-06-30T22:01:13 < PaulFertser> kakimir: so what is it exactly you're trying to do? 2018-06-30T22:01:35 < kakimir> fix filesystem in ntfs partitions 2018-06-30T22:01:39 < kakimir> resize 2018-06-30T22:01:43 < kakimir> partitions 2018-06-30T22:01:45 < kakimir> then 2018-06-30T22:01:50 < kakimir> dump it into ssd 2018-06-30T22:02:01 < kakimir> that is smaller than original image 2018-06-30T22:02:12 < kakimir> failing harddisk 2018-06-30T22:02:13 < PaulFertser> kakimir: so you have a file with full disk image, right? 2018-06-30T22:02:20 < Rickta59> I did tell you there was a ##stm32 Sadale, I think I also said no one would answer your question :) 2018-06-30T22:02:29 < kakimir> PaulFertser: soon 2018-06-30T22:02:33 < kakimir> ddrescue is running 2018-06-30T22:02:56 < kakimir> 124GB / 144GB or so 2018-06-30T22:03:46 < PaulFertser> kakimir: so you can use losetup and then your whole disk image will be available as /dev/loop0, and you can tell gparted to edit it etc. I guess. To ask the kernel to discover partitions on it you can use partx or probably kpartx. 2018-06-30T22:04:04 < kakimir> I need an image that I can dump to 111GB ssd 2018-06-30T22:04:19 < kakimir> okay 2018-06-30T22:04:21 < kakimir> loop device 2018-06-30T22:04:23 < kakimir> okay 2018-06-30T22:04:26 < kakimir> thanks 2018-06-30T22:04:40 < kakimir> another question 2018-06-30T22:04:52 < kakimir> I recovered one harddrive 2018-06-30T22:04:59 < Rickta59> maybe you will get lucky and it will so 20 or 30GB of data so it will fit 2018-06-30T22:05:02 < kakimir> got like 140GB / 160GB recovered 2018-06-30T22:05:15 < Rickta59> it will lose 2018-06-30T22:05:20 < kakimir> I need to process it further 2018-06-30T22:05:26 < kakimir> to recover some old photos and so 2018-06-30T22:05:38 < kakimir> I don't have a clue what should I try to do with it 2018-06-30T22:05:55 < kakimir> heavy loss of data 2018-06-30T22:18:08 < PaulFertser> kakimir: you can try recovering photos with "photorec" obviously. 2018-06-30T22:18:43 < kakimir> should I even try to recover the filesystem? 2018-06-30T22:19:02 < kakimir> is there any tools to visualize the rescue success? 2018-06-30T22:19:28 < kakimir> to that I can see what parts of the drive are gone 2018-06-30T22:19:47 < kakimir> obiviously if the filesystem "header" could be intact 2018-06-30T22:19:53 < kakimir> sorry* table 2018-06-30T22:19:54 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2018-06-30T22:20:48 -!- gnom [~aleksande@178.150.7.153] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T22:21:17 < PaulFertser> You can try recovering the filesystem with fsck but if it's ntfs, then you'll need microsoft's fsck for that. 2018-06-30T22:21:20 < PaulFertser> iirc 2018-06-30T22:22:11 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-30T22:22:29 < kakimir> so I get a drive that is alive 2018-06-30T22:22:34 < kakimir> put it in there 2018-06-30T22:22:45 < kakimir> put it in windows machine 2018-06-30T22:27:07 < PaulFertser> kakimir: https://superuser.com/a/615707 2018-06-30T22:27:51 < Ultrasauce> photorec is magical 2018-06-30T22:29:14 < Steffanx> Is this the 2nd time kakimir? I remember you doing this months ago 2018-06-30T22:33:19 < kakimir> yes 2018-06-30T22:33:23 < kakimir> I have had no time for it 2018-06-30T22:33:39 < kakimir> also I would like to maybe recover more than images 2018-06-30T22:33:43 < kakimir> but maybe not 2018-06-30T22:40:51 < kakimir> PaulFertser: -t msdos? 2018-06-30T22:41:08 < kakimir> it's win10 disk 2018-06-30T22:44:42 < kakimir> oh 2018-06-30T22:44:45 < kakimir> losetup ok 2018-06-30T22:47:38 -!- elektrinis [~circuit@unaffiliated/circuit] has quit [Quit: pokðt] 2018-06-30T22:47:58 < kakimir> loop device is visible! 2018-06-30T22:48:04 < kakimir> with partitions 2018-06-30T22:48:12 < kakimir> note: losetup -P 2018-06-30T23:10:33 < Cracki> how did it break? 2018-06-30T23:10:55 < Cracki> physical damage of a HDD looks different from damage to SSD or other flash 2018-06-30T23:13:04 < kakimir> physical 2018-06-30T23:13:15 < kakimir> actual hdd 2018-06-30T23:13:21 < kakimir> 4M reallocated sectors 2018-06-30T23:13:29 < kakimir> win10 running rought 2018-06-30T23:14:08 < kakimir> I try ntfsresize --force 2018-06-30T23:14:20 < kakimir> gparted is not co-operative 2018-06-30T23:14:51 < PaulFertser> kakimir: try windows chkdsk first 2018-06-30T23:15:01 < kakimir> I don't have hdd 2018-06-30T23:15:26 < kakimir> unless I boot my linux laptop into live 2018-06-30T23:15:36 < PaulFertser> kakimir: or VM 2018-06-30T23:15:37 < kakimir> and the make partitions in it 2018-06-30T23:15:44 < kakimir> PaulFertser: hmmm 2018-06-30T23:15:46 < kakimir> ! 2018-06-30T23:17:39 < kakimir> now I just need some crappy windows image 2018-06-30T23:18:30 < kakimir> does winxp count? 2018-06-30T23:19:56 < kakimir> hmm 2018-06-30T23:20:09 < kakimir> if I mount linux hard drive in windows 2018-06-30T23:20:20 < kakimir> with esata connector in the machine 2018-06-30T23:20:37 < kakimir> then convert and mount the image 2018-06-30T23:20:47 < kakimir> shiet 2018-06-30T23:21:08 < kakimir> walk in the park 2018-06-30T23:21:37 < kakimir> I wonder if I still have the script for converting the image 2018-06-30T23:21:48 < kakimir> besides mounting linux image is so much fun 2018-06-30T23:21:55 < kakimir> linux hdd 2018-06-30T23:25:50 < vampi-the-frog> man I just think open source is gay 2018-06-30T23:26:30 < vampi-the-frog> why would you make your code public, most code is unused by others 2018-06-30T23:26:35 < vampi-the-frog> you're just virtue signaling 2018-06-30T23:26:48 < vampi-the-frog> unless it's a large project that has lots of users, what's the point? 2018-06-30T23:27:27 < bitmask> slic3r or cura? 2018-06-30T23:27:33 < bitmask> s3d shit the bed 2018-06-30T23:28:01 < bitmask> I'm printing successfully from slic3r now though 2018-06-30T23:29:09 < vampi-the-frog> using numbers instead of letters is gay 2018-06-30T23:29:14 < Steffanx> i bet it was anti warez protection in simplify3d :P 2018-06-30T23:29:23 < bitmask> haha Shhhh 2018-06-30T23:29:35 < Steffanx> Would be funny though. 2018-06-30T23:29:48 < bitmask> im not gonna lie it crossed my mind 2018-06-30T23:29:57 < bitmask> I'm gonna have to reset all my settings and try from scratch later 2018-06-30T23:30:05 -!- boB_K7IQ [boB_K7IQ@c-98-247-192-179.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T23:30:09 < Steffanx> it must have been your settings. 2018-06-30T23:30:14 < bitmask> take a look at the gcode too 2018-06-30T23:32:31 < bitmask> uhh shitty s3d, you would think they would fix bugs if they charge that much 2018-06-30T23:32:52 < bitmask> first person in irc asked if I switched to relative extrusion mode and I did 2018-06-30T23:33:51 < Steffanx> > "charge that much" 2018-06-30T23:34:00 < bitmask> keep that in quotes 2018-06-30T23:34:10 < bitmask> and add a wink 2018-06-30T23:34:18 < vampi-the-frog> emoticons are gay 2018-06-30T23:34:23 < vampi-the-frog> ;) 2018-06-30T23:34:25 < bitmask> you are gay 2018-06-30T23:34:27 < bitmask> ;) 2018-06-30T23:34:47 < Steffanx> I still dont believe what jadew said about your age vampi-the-frog. 2018-06-30T23:35:33 < vampi-the-frog> I still don't care 2018-06-30T23:36:13 < Steffanx> i never said you should. 2018-06-30T23:37:28 < vampi-the-frog> I'm trying to get the DAC on the F4 Discovery board to work properly 2018-06-30T23:37:34 < vampi-the-frog> haven't managed to make it work in stereo 2018-06-30T23:37:57 < vampi-the-frog> but I'm writing it as a library 2018-06-30T23:39:52 < vampi-the-frog> libraries are gay 2018-06-30T23:40:03 < bitmask> vampis are gay 2018-06-30T23:40:56 -!- bvernoux [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T23:41:22 < vampi-the-frog> homosexuals are gay 2018-06-30T23:42:20 < Cracki> the frogs are gay 2018-06-30T23:44:33 < Cracki> wew they're advocating for genocide *openly* now https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dg4pKTrXkAAbV3I.jpg:orig 2018-06-30T23:44:46 -!- bvernoux1 [~Ben@chl26-1-88-183-104-56.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-30T23:44:53 < vampi-the-frog> she hasn't sucked enough cox 2018-06-30T23:45:42 < vampi-the-frog> I think white genocide is just another term for jizzing on someone's face 2018-06-30T23:46:27 < Cracki> "every drop..." or something? 2018-06-30T23:46:42 < Cracki> biblical 2018-06-30T23:46:46 < BrainDamage> you know that by listening to their shit you're giving them power, right? 2018-06-30T23:47:02 < BrainDamage> as long as the view count rises, it doesn't matter which content it is for social media 2018-06-30T23:47:03 < vampi-the-frog> no cause sperm is white 2018-06-30T23:47:15 < vampi-the-frog> do you want me to explain? 2018-06-30T23:47:39 < Cracki> I think a demonstration would be better 2018-06-30T23:47:49 < vampi-the-frog> you're race baiting me 2018-06-30T23:48:02 < vampi-the-frog> you're a master baiter 2018-06-30T23:49:07 < Cracki> mebbeh. ribbit. 2018-06-30T23:51:14 < vampi-the-frog> hm is CS43L22 part of a family of chips? 2018-06-30T23:52:22 < Cracki> nobody nose https://www.cirrus.com/products/cs43l22/ 2018-06-30T23:52:33 < Cracki> (click "products") 2018-06-30T23:53:10 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 2018-06-30T23:54:57 < vampi-the-frog> I noticed on the schematic that the MEMS microphone seems to be connected to the CS43L22 2018-06-30T23:55:15 < vampi-the-frog> http://img.vampi.tech/bbcb324d.png 2018-06-30T23:55:24 < vampi-the-frog> see PDM_OUT 2018-06-30T23:55:39 -!- oz4ga [~irc@static-74-42-252-20.br1.glvv.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined ##stm32 2018-06-30T23:56:18 < Cracki> >noticed 2018-06-30T23:57:07 < vampi-the-frog> is that some sort of integration filter? 2018-06-30T23:57:13 < Cracki> there's supposed to be a mems microphone? where? 2018-06-30T23:57:15 < vampi-the-frog> C52 and C51? 2018-06-30T23:57:19 < vampi-the-frog> lower left 2018-06-30T23:57:22 < vampi-the-frog> MP45DT02 2018-06-30T23:57:28 < vampi-the-frog> on STM32F4Discovery 2018-06-30T23:58:16 < Cracki> waaaaiiit 2018-06-30T23:58:26 < Cracki> pdm-out is coming from somewhere to the cs43? 2018-06-30T23:58:39 < vampi-the-frog> yeah from the stupid MEMS microphone 2018-06-30T23:58:41 < Cracki> if so, that's a low pass to turn the PDM signal into analog 2018-06-30T23:58:50 < Cracki> Pulse Density Modulation 2018-06-30T23:58:59 < vampi-the-frog> https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/mp45dt02-m.pdf 2018-06-30T23:59:06 < Cracki> expected to be in the MHz range 2018-06-30T23:59:20 < Cracki> usually for high-end audio data 2018-06-30T23:59:35 < vampi-the-frog> ok so 2018-06-30T23:59:41 < Cracki> the idea about this 1-bit-ADC that produces PDM is that you can shape noise into the high frequencies, then cut if off 2018-06-30T23:59:44 < vampi-the-frog> I think all it does is allow it to be mixed with the output --- Log closed Sun Jul 01 00:00:32 2018