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2025-04-01T00:41:27 < karlp> fentyl:  svelte doesn't really help,  there's a bundling procedure that I can allegedly do for it as is,  but it's involved enough I'll do it later.
2025-04-01T00:41:30 < karlp> related though: https://github.com/BCsabaEngine/svelteesp32/pull/43
2025-04-01T00:42:42 < karlp> the ai code reivew comments there were interesting. better than I'd expected.
2025-04-01T00:48:01 < karlp> fentyl: svelte makes it streamlined to ahave it all together, but the "bundling" is pretty normal really.
2025-04-01T00:54:16 < fentyl> karlp: to me the point is that you don't have dynamic DOM or what is the name of the process of scanning the DOM for reactive elements and rewriting it on every page load
2025-04-01T00:54:33 < fentyl> bundling is minor part of the feat
2025-04-01T00:55:27 < fentyl> although I guess that due to the fact svelte can actually emit just the code that is actually used, it has positive impact on code size
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2025-04-01T13:24:43 < karlp> I don't give a rats arse about the mechanism it uses behind the scenes.
2025-04-01T13:52:40 < Steffanx> How grumpy is your day today karlp?
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2025-04-01T16:06:04 < Sadale> Hello. Someone posted in a local jobseeking telegram group looking for someone to work on a lidar project. They said that it's urgent. They said that it doesn't have to be full time employment. They're a company located in Hong Kong Science Park. I told him that I have connection with foreigners located outside Hong Kong and they still PM'd me so I presume that they're ok with non-local people mostly working remotely...? But I'm unable to obtain much info 
2025-04-01T16:06:05 < Sadale> from him. If interested, let me know that I'll arrange you to contact him.
2025-04-01T16:06:33 < Sadale> I guess that it's probably a startup because of their location.
2025-04-01T17:21:52 < Steffanx> Sounds like a job for you Sadale. You're a local, speak the language, perfect.
2025-04-01T17:22:40 < Sadale> Steffanx, me not interested. Many startups in Science Park die easily. If I were a contractor/freelancer it might be worth doing the job. But I'm a full time worker and I value company's stability.
2025-04-01T17:22:50 < Steffanx> If he's really desperate you can even make him pay as much those people on the other side of the ocean 
2025-04-01T17:26:20 < Sadale> Meh. I'm not being underpaid in whichever company I'm working for so I'm good. Plus I doubt that they'd be willing to pay that much for a full time worker. Those startups generally don't have much money to speak of.
2025-04-01T17:26:29 < Sadale> They might be able to pay more if it's per-job work tho.
2025-04-01T17:27:00 < Sadale> And no, I'm not gonna be a contractor any time soon. Too much work to build the network.
2025-04-01T17:27:40 < zyp> that's why I'm not a contractor
2025-04-01T17:28:00 < zyp> I like doing contract work, I don't like finding/negotiating contract work
2025-04-01T17:29:44 < Sadale> I don't like doing any kind of work that I'm paid to do ;_;
2025-04-01T17:29:57 < Sadale> Unfortunately I've got bills to pay so I still have to do that.
2025-04-01T17:30:01 < zyp> yeah, that's the main issue
2025-04-01T17:30:34 < Sadale> to be fair they have to pay someone to do that because the job is so terrible that no one would do that for free.
2025-04-01T17:32:47 < zyp> last time I did some sort of contract work, I just went and did it before negotiating with the client, and then told them «I'm done, this is the sort of stuff I do for fun anyway, so you can just pay me whatever you feel this is worth to you»
2025-04-01T17:34:00 < fentyl> it must certainly be scam, all work is done by AI these days
2025-04-01T17:34:57 < Sadale> I still don't think that AI is that capable these days. It works well for prototyping probably. Not so much for production.
2025-04-01T17:35:28 < Sadale> Probably pretty useful for hackathon or game jam or something, or cranking out some kind of MVP real quick.
2025-04-01T17:35:37 < zyp> I think much of AI is hype, but I'm seriously impressed by github copilot
2025-04-01T17:36:07 < zyp> I didn't care about it until they added the free tier, and then I figured «eh, might as well give it a try»
2025-04-01T17:36:27 < zyp> and by the time I used up the free tier allowance, I'd decided it was worth paying for
2025-04-01T17:36:49 < fentyl> I'll probably do the same as all the IDEs I've tried are somehow brokwn
2025-04-01T17:36:59 < fentyl> so... whatevs I can jump to code
2025-04-01T17:37:38 < Sadale> I still think that there gotta be another way to do it rather than using copilot or code autocompletion AI.
2025-04-01T17:38:12 < zyp> the thing I like about copilot is that I don't need to spend time dicking around with it, it just observes and makes completion suggestions
2025-04-01T17:38:29 < zyp> and at times it feels like a mind reader
2025-04-01T17:38:29 < Sadale> Usually I just manually doing copy and paste of the code from stackoverflow or example code that I found online. Then I start from there and adapt the code until it works for my use case.
2025-04-01T17:39:03 < Sadale> Also if it's an open source project, I wouldn't dare using AI for the code because I would have no idea on where the AI copied the code from.
2025-04-01T17:39:21 < Sadale> If it's commercial projects tho no one would know the code so there's no problem. :P
2025-04-01T17:40:40 < zyp> I was writing a PLL solver the other day, was looking at the algorithm and thought «oh, I need to add a check that this divisor is valid»
2025-04-01T17:41:16 < zyp> so I went to add a term to an if statement, wrote «and» and copilot suggested exactly what I intended to write: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/sjDtZ.png
2025-04-01T17:42:42 < jpa-> maybe soon we will have a local running equivalent
2025-04-01T17:43:39 < zyp> it's also pretty good at rewriting code
2025-04-01T17:44:41 < zyp> usually when I port code from one language to another, I copy the original into a comment in the file I'm working on so it's easy to reference while rewriting
2025-04-01T17:45:07 < zyp> and copilot picks up on what I'm doing, and what style I want it rewritten to
2025-04-01T17:46:07 < zyp> I've ported both C++ code to rust and migen code to amaranth that way
2025-04-01T17:47:19 < zyp> but anyway, the biggest thing is I don't need to dick around with it to make it do anything useful
2025-04-01T17:47:45 < zyp> unlike almost every other code completion stuff I've tried
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2025-04-01T17:55:27 < veverak> :D
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2025-04-01T18:17:52 < karlp> Steffanx: pretty fine really :)
2025-04-01T18:18:16 < karlp> I just _reallly_ don't have a strong opinion on how the js does it's thing behind the scenes. 
2025-04-01T18:21:22 < fentyl> right, that's pretty irrelevant
2025-04-01T18:21:39 < karlp> lol, company wide email "umm, who's using anaconda? please delete or report to your manager...."
2025-04-01T18:21:56 < fentyl> what pisses me off regularly is that no money can buy a CPU that won't hog for two seconds at blank screen until Angular or React will crunch beefy DOM and search for reactive elements in there
2025-04-01T18:23:47 < fentyl> at one occasion when a webshop did not load product image with JS disabled, I made the extra effort and measured how much loading time / traffic did the JS save. It turned on that the JS was some 3x larger than all the elements it was used to defer loading combined
2025-04-01T18:23:52 < fentyl> well done developer, well done
2025-04-01T18:28:12 < karlp> meh, added OPTIONS support to return allwoed methods,
2025-04-01T18:28:26 < karlp> and this fetch request is doing the put and failing before it does the OPTIONS pre-flight?!
2025-04-01T18:58:38 < qyx> is that anything wrong with conda in particular?
2025-04-01T18:58:46 < qyx> besides that I hate it for reasons unknown
2025-04-01T18:59:13 < karlp> they annouced that any org over 200 people now needed a commercial license.
2025-04-01T18:59:23 < qyx> lol
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2025-04-01T19:17:21 < jbo> conda... holy f didn't see that in a while
2025-04-01T19:19:46 < zyp> karlp, as an april fools, or what?
2025-04-01T19:21:43 < zyp> oh, no, old news
2025-04-01T19:22:44 < zyp> conda always seemed to me like «how to fuck up your python experience and be miserable», so I never paid it much attention
2025-04-01T19:23:36 < zyp> cadquery tried luring me into it a couple of years ago, but then they managed to publish it on pypi anyway
2025-04-01T19:31:15 < fentyl> is it the same as anaconda?
2025-04-01T19:31:26 < fentyl> that used to install fedora core back in 2000s?
2025-04-01T19:32:02 < zyp> I don't think so
2025-04-01T19:32:35 < fentyl> i have an appointment in 30 minutes with note: "M"
2025-04-01T19:32:37 < fentyl> and nothing else
2025-04-01T19:32:45 < zyp> AIUI it's a python packaging system that says «fuck the regular python packaging infrastructure, let's do it our own way instead»
2025-04-01T19:33:32 < zyp> and AIUI it began because the python packaging infrastructure at the time couldn't bundle binary dependencies or something
2025-04-01T19:33:38 < zyp> that's not an issue nowadays
2025-04-01T19:41:14 < fentyl> fucking automotive morons see the defacto impossibility of learning their tech stack without any paid training as an advantage
2025-04-01T19:41:17 < fentyl> let them burn
2025-04-01T19:47:19 < qyx> oh yes cadquery
2025-04-01T19:48:35 < zyp> cadquery/build123d is great
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2025-04-01T20:06:05 < bitmask> cursor is actually pretty nice
2025-04-01T20:08:56 < srk> Better Performance CadQuery scripts can build STL, STEP, AMF and 3MF faster than OpenSCAD.
2025-04-01T20:08:59 < srk> :))
2025-04-01T20:09:19 < srk> like on multiple cores faster!?
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2025-04-01T20:35:11 < Steffanx> openscad cant even build/export STEP
2025-04-01T20:35:41 < aandrew> wow really
2025-04-01T20:35:58 < aandrew> that seems like a pretty critical thing, exporting to step
2025-04-01T20:37:01 < Steffanx> The open sores way is openscad -> freecad -> step
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2025-04-01T20:41:22 < jpa-> and when you do that, you can't use the fancier openscad features
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2025-04-01T20:42:06 < jpa-> but in the end it is all just the same, cadquery uses cascade like freecad does
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2025-04-01T21:40:14 < zyp> jpa-, yeah, I just appreciate not having to learn a new language to use it
2025-04-01T21:40:41 < qyx> I trashed openscad
2025-04-01T21:41:06 < qyx> looks very cool on first sight and for simple objects
2025-04-01T21:45:09 < zyp> it's a question of what you're designing
2025-04-01T21:46:09 < zyp> if you're doing something with a bunch of weird shapes that's annoying to describe, designing it graphically is much faster
2025-04-01T21:47:09 < zyp> but for something parameterizable or that builds upon a bunch of input data, something like build123d is great
2025-04-01T21:47:58 < zyp> I did a bunch of test jig stuff in build123d
2025-04-01T21:49:57 < fentyl> I did both openscad and freecad and I like graphic modeling a tad bit more, just because I used to be a CAD SW developer, so I've been forced to work with this kind of software
2025-04-01T21:51:39 < zyp> I grabbed pcb hole and testpoint data from fabrication outputs and had build123d make drawings for both the pogo pcbs and the acrylic panels for the jigs
2025-04-01T21:51:53 < zyp> as well as a 3d render of how it'd look
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2025-04-01T21:54:49 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/Ao4cs.png https://bin.jvnv.net/file/GGNRJ.png
2025-04-01T22:00:57 < jpa-> nowadays i just use freecad and manual edits, but i used to do automatic workflows like that and it's nice when you bother to do it
2025-04-01T22:01:44 < zyp> I'm tempted to do a fully 3d-printable testjig generator
2025-04-01T22:05:03 < zyp> and yeah, I've got a coworker that's recently been doing a bunch of simple jigs and stuff in freecad
2025-04-01T22:05:20 < zyp> not testjigs but like 6-pin programming jigs for small pcbs
2025-04-01T23:23:31 < qyx> I want a basic testjig
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2025-04-01T23:24:20 < qyx> also a basic X*Y switching matrix and some instruments
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2025-04-02T12:21:56 < karlp> zyp: yeah, I think my first experience with *conda was a cadquery thing, but agreed, thankfully it now "just works normally"
2025-04-02T12:37:51 < qyx> helo innovators
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2025-04-02T16:26:51 < Steffanx> 250 Hello qyx
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2025-04-02T16:52:38 < qyx> 403 nowai
2025-04-02T16:53:03 < qyx> also, I successfully abused CAN transceivers for UART comms
2025-04-02T16:53:42 < qyx> except that doing any serious UART on lunex is pain
2025-04-02T17:04:45 < karlp> relevant: https://github.com/hatlabs/kitfg
2025-04-02T17:04:54 < karlp> I've seen another one from a little while ago, not quite as new.
2025-04-02T17:05:14 < karlp> yeah, this one: https://tinylabs.io/openfixture/
2025-04-02T17:09:36 < srk> neato
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2025-04-02T17:51:18 < karlp> fuckin cors preflight bullshit
2025-04-02T18:17:47 < karlp> I accept the options, they send teh PUT, and then after further validation when they start sending me the file, I want to reject it, 4xx whatever, and firefox and chrome both just treat that as "suck it, CORS failed" and won't give me the response with the json rest reply in it.
2025-04-02T18:18:16 < karlp> I've added "allow-lol: *" header bullshit, just... allow it!
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2025-04-02T20:16:01 < bitmask> i hate my ISP
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2025-04-02T20:18:17 < Steffanx> I hate hate, bitmask 
2025-04-02T20:18:40 < bitmask> ok, I dislike my isp
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2025-04-02T20:25:46 < Steffanx> Whats the reason for this Mr bitmask ?
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2025-04-02T20:29:07 < fentyl> wadda wadda
2025-04-02T20:29:34 < fentyl> why the USB stack processes the request with no error and then stops processing further requests?
2025-04-02T20:46:04 < jpa-> it's had enough
2025-04-02T20:46:38 < fentyl> yeah, but there are other ways of expressing that
2025-04-02T20:47:04 < fentyl> it could strike, contact union and demand something, establish a political party... not just stop communicating
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2025-04-02T20:48:05 < qyx> it is ghosting you
2025-04-02T20:48:31 < qyx> the worst of all punishments
2025-04-02T20:49:07 < jpa-> i've tried to be a responsible adult lately and tell jbo that i'm busy instead of just ghosting
2025-04-02T20:49:25 < jpa-> maybe suggest to your USB stack that it does the same, says its busy
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2025-04-02T22:39:49 < jbo> mhm
2025-04-02T22:51:49 < Steffanx> Hm
2025-04-02T22:52:40 < Steffanx> I figured you're playing hard to get, jpa- 
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2025-04-03T02:30:24 < qyx> listening to italian metal trying to resolve hungarian freertos issues :S
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2025-04-03T08:12:24 < jpa-> heh, i read the ST mail first as "turkey gesture recognition" instead of "turnkey gesture recognition"
2025-04-03T08:12:28 < jpa-> that would have been something new
2025-04-03T08:14:31 < antto> can a turkey make the middle finger gesture?! o_O
2025-04-03T08:15:01 < antto> and can ST recognize it
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2025-04-03T08:45:59 < qyx> so where is ublox manufactured, who knows?
2025-04-03T08:47:54 < fentyl> china :>
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2025-04-03T11:41:21 < srk> haha https://www.analog.com/en/_/media/analog/en/evaluation-board-images/images/eval-adau1787z.png
2025-04-03T11:48:49 < zyp> what about it?
2025-04-03T11:49:41 < zyp> looks a bit «how many kinds of switches can we fit into this design?»
2025-04-03T11:53:17 < srk> and melt one!
2025-04-03T11:54:04 < srk> bottomleftmost fancy one
2025-04-03T11:54:55 < srk> looks like the first sigma dsp that can do more than 96khz
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2025-04-03T12:12:46 < jpa-> meh, what is going on.. openocd "profile 1 foobar.dat" creates foobar.dat, but the contents are mostly just 0
2025-04-03T12:12:57 < jpa-> mdw 0xE000101c   shows that PCSR is working ok
2025-04-03T12:13:33 < jpa-> but.. then also gprof is bullshitting me, when i run  "gprof firmware.elf foobar.dat"  it gives random functions from the file
2025-04-03T12:16:58 < jpa-> hmm, specifying address range seems to help
2025-04-03T12:20:11 < jpa-> seems that without range, it picks a silly large bucket size and then the address is only reported with 1kB accuracy or something
2025-04-03T12:25:32 < zyp> that's PC sampling over SWD?
2025-04-03T12:27:06 < zyp> it just does equal size buckets? not something more clever like break it down along symbol boundaries like orbtop?
2025-04-03T12:38:13 < jpa-> seems so
2025-04-03T12:38:22 < jpa-> i think that's the gprof format
2025-04-03T12:38:46 < jbo> good morning
2025-04-03T12:38:56 < jpa-> i wish rp2350 had swo.. or more pins so that i could use the 4-bit trace port
2025-04-03T12:40:27 < zyp> doesn't it support 1-bit sync trace?
2025-04-03T12:40:39 < zyp> (two pins are easier to spare than five)
2025-04-03T12:42:02 < jpa-> might be worth checking
2025-04-03T12:42:35 < zyp> I've never seen a target that supports 4-bit, but not 2-bit or 1-bit
2025-04-03T12:55:56 < qyx> I am imagining myself as a CEO of a small company with 10 employees
2025-04-03T12:56:07 < zyp> and you're all 10?
2025-04-03T12:56:16 < qyx> and a box full of lexaurin on my right-hand shelf under the desk
2025-04-03T12:56:22 < qyx> *in
2025-04-03T12:56:55 < jbo> qyx, literally jbo
2025-04-03T12:57:16 < qyx> I am genuinely drained, half of the brain is missing
2025-04-03T13:09:55 < qyx> I write an email, a phone call follows 5 minutes after that "oh you just emailed me asking.. " YES OMG you can hit the REPLY button
2025-04-03T13:10:25 < qyx> unrelated, I estimated delivering a thing by the end of the work week
2025-04-03T13:10:26 < jbo> I found that people like to do that if they want to avoid a paper trail
2025-04-03T13:11:07 < qyx> a customer calls asking if I really deliver on friday
2025-04-03T13:23:09 < Steffanx> Fuck sending 10 emails for something that can be solved with a 1 minute call. Or when there is some time pressure.
2025-04-03T13:24:45 < Steffanx> Just make the call and send a confirmation email when decisions have been made for the paper trail.
2025-04-03T13:25:26 < Steffanx> *Confirmation/summary/whatever
2025-04-03T13:27:38 < Steffanx> Clients can't read anyway..
2025-04-03T13:29:43 < qyx> no, phone call introduces burden to the work flow
2025-04-03T13:30:08 < qyx> I don't need immediate answer and I definitely can write an email much faster than calling someone
2025-04-03T13:52:08 < Steffanx> Time for a personal assistant qyx
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2025-04-04T00:28:20 < qyx> when I am not adding a 10pin cortex debug connector to the next board because of space reasons, tell me I am dumb
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2025-04-04T00:57:54 < zyp> so, what are you adding?
2025-04-04T00:58:20 < qyx> test pads
2025-04-04T00:59:55 < zyp> you know, if you laid out those test pads in a particular pattern, you could get an off the shelf cable to connect to them
2025-04-04T00:59:58 < zyp> https://bin.jvnv.net/file/NjEyT.JPG
2025-04-04T01:00:59 < qyx> no.
2025-04-04T01:02:16 < zyp> enjoy making a custom jig then :)
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2025-04-04T07:28:07 < jpa-> qyx: been there, done that; it is not that bad
2025-04-04T07:28:27 < jpa-> especially if you can make the test pads small THTs (like 0.3mm drill and no soldermask), then sensepeeks will stay in place nicely
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2025-04-04T13:31:37 < tomeaton17> hello
2025-04-04T13:53:27 < Steffanx> Hello Mr Eaton. Long time no see
2025-04-04T13:54:15 < Steffanx> Did you kill your British comrade Laurenceb in the mean time? Haven't seen him for a while either 
2025-04-04T13:58:49 < tomeaton17> Steffanx I suspect he got taken for reeducation by Starmer's secret police judging by his views
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2025-04-04T14:02:16 < qyx> so I have a python opening a tun device
2025-04-04T14:02:34 < qyx> and I correctly send udp packets over that device, I can see them coming out using tcpdump
2025-04-04T14:03:00 < qyx> but when I bind a udp socket to a port and tun device address, I can not receive any data
2025-04-04T14:03:06 < qyx> both with python and socat
2025-04-04T14:03:11 < qyx> whats wrong
2025-04-04T14:08:55 < zyp> tried binding to 0.0.0.0?
2025-04-04T14:09:38 < qyx> udp        0      0 :::52000                :::*                                
2025-04-04T14:10:32 < zyp> tried sending to the right addr?
2025-04-04T14:10:33 < qyx> also
2025-04-04T14:10:34 < qyx> udp        0      0 fd00:dead:beef::1:52000 :::*                                
2025-04-04T14:11:02 < qyx> 11:10:55.385095 IP6 fd00:dead:beef::10.52001 > fd00:dead:beef::1.52000: UDP, length 4
2025-04-04T14:11:08 < qyx> (from tcpdump)
2025-04-04T14:12:09 < qyx> I probably tried everything
2025-04-04T14:17:05 < zyp> what does `ip addr` on the tun interface say?
2025-04-04T14:17:59 < qyx> 6: nbus: <POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST,NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 500 link/none inet6 fd00:dead:beef::1/96 scope global 
2025-04-04T14:18:23 < qyx> https://paste.jvnv.net/view/yJsOc
2025-04-04T14:18:23 < zyp> got any active firewall rules?
2025-04-04T14:19:28 < qyx> that's an interesting question, I have set everything to accept
2025-04-04T14:44:56 < qyx> I have flushed it, didn't help
2025-04-04T14:55:30 < qyx> oh
2025-04-04T14:55:31 < qyx> 11:54:40.230036 IP6 (hlim 64, next-header UDP (17) payload length: 12) fd00:dead:beef::10.52001 > fd00:dead:beef::1.52000: [bad udp cksum 0x0000 -> 0x6f7f!] UDP, length 4
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2025-04-04T15:47:02 < qyx> yeah bad udb checksum was the cause
2025-04-04T15:47:28 < qyx> interesting that icmp works with bad checksum but udp doesn't
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2025-04-04T23:37:11 < karlp> icmp checksum is app level, not transport level?
2025-04-04T23:37:30 < karlp> but yeah, that sounds pretty rough day.
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2025-04-04T23:37:50 < bitmask> what a week
2025-04-04T23:37:53 < bitmask> hows it going
2025-04-04T23:38:37 < karlp> great, sun's still out, clear skies, beer, summerhouse.
2025-04-04T23:38:48 < bitmask> woot woot
2025-04-04T23:39:31 < qyx> those viking places
2025-04-04T23:39:42 < qyx> karlp: and -5°C?
2025-04-04T23:40:30 < qyx> oh sorry +5 :P
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2025-04-05T00:36:28 < karlp> I thik it was maybe 9 today?
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2025-04-05T22:34:45 < Steffanx> yes
2025-04-05T22:55:18 < jbo> thank you
2025-04-05T23:14:32 < Steffanx> You welcome jbo
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2025-04-05T23:54:08 < qyx> hello weekend innovators
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2025-04-06T01:45:16 < qyx> ok stlink v3-mini actually *needs* VCC sense connected
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2025-04-07T23:46:30 < PhantomWork> question guys, I basically have a loop of rx tx, and on the receiver it is basically "wait for data then transmit data" loop.  On main: HAL_IRDA_Receive(&hirda3, (uint8_t *) rxData, 2, 100); <=== I think this is where my issue is, it stop receiving, I have a theory that it might have dropped a byte, then it is now offset by one?  i.e. does it
2025-04-07T23:46:30 < PhantomWork> keep the received byte in buffer even if it timed out? So when the slave transmit the 2 bytes it receive one, issue a "rx complete" and buffer the second?
2025-04-07T23:56:17 < fentyl> this depends on part, but the RX registers are often double-buffered. So the peripheral can receive new data before the old one is received, but you have to read the buffer before new data is entirely received otherwise the second byte is lost
2025-04-07T23:56:30 < fentyl> that should be signalled by RX overflow or something similar
2025-04-07T23:57:56 < PhantomWork> my actual issue is a loss of data, the master fail to receive data after a while, the slave still transmit, so... I think it might be that 2 bytes receive thing... and since my usb-serial fried (new are comming) I can't read the debug data :/
2025-04-07T23:59:15 < PhantomWork> anyway will see tomorrow
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2025-04-08T00:07:41 < qyx> check the fifo mode if your firmware is not fast enough
2025-04-08T00:08:01 < qyx> some uart implementations have 8 byte fifos iirc
2025-04-08T00:08:23 < qyx> also you definitely need to make your protocol resistant to these kind of errors
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2025-04-08T15:00:42 < qyx> port.c:349:75: warning: result of '2^24' is 26; did you mean '1 << 24' (16777216)? [-Wxor-used-as-pow]
2025-04-08T15:00:46 < qyx> lold irl
2025-04-08T15:00:55 < qyx> of course I did
2025-04-08T15:01:54 < zyp> :D
2025-04-08T15:02:56 < zyp> nice to see compilers warning about them now, I've caught those in code review before
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2025-04-09T02:31:21 < qyx> well done, that's exactly the name a human likes
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2025-04-09T10:29:58 < qyx> this humanity is solving printing the modern way for the past 30 years and still fails hard
2025-04-09T10:30:23 < qyx> yes if my pdf is white with black text, I want the text to appear black on the white paper, not black on a black background
2025-04-09T10:30:57 < qyx> yes, if I select black/white mode, I indeed doesn't want to use any of the color toner cartridges
2025-04-09T10:31:36 < qyx> yes if I select A4 for the first tray, please, keep this setting, no, I am not changing paper size in the tray with every fucking sheet of paper
2025-04-09T10:32:23 < qyx> and yes, if I select I want to print on labels, I indeed do want this, don't ask it *locally* on a networked printer
2025-04-09T10:32:30 < qyx> 30 fucking years, unbelievable
2025-04-09T10:32:47 < qyx> not even mentioning it takes half a day to properly install drivers
2025-04-09T10:33:03 < qyx> in the year of 2025 when the printing api should be generic and open
2025-04-09T10:34:20 < qyx> where on earth is this civilization heading to when driver install is easier in linux than in windows or doesn't work in windows at all
2025-04-09T10:37:21 < jpa-> in 10 years 3d printers have gone from fiddly crap to "it just works".. in 50 years 2d printers have gone from "it works with our own system" to "it doesn't work with any system"
2025-04-09T10:39:06 < jpa-> in 170 years 1D printers have gone from fiddly crap to "it doesn't exist anymore"
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2025-04-09T12:33:18  * karlp is failing to imagine what 1d printers are
2025-04-09T12:34:39 < BrainDamage> they extrude wire
2025-04-09T12:35:18 < BrainDamage> (I am not serious, and I doubt neither jpa- is)
2025-04-09T12:40:14 < jpa-> http://www.samhallas.co.uk/telhist1/telehist2.htm
2025-04-09T12:43:35 < jpa-> https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?id=NMAH-2006-10282   it even has triple redundancy in the lines!
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2025-04-09T14:38:43 < tomeaton17> .bef
2025-04-09T14:38:53 < tomeaton17> sorry accident
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2025-04-09T18:40:27 < Steffanx> How serious is the jbo?
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2025-04-09T18:49:03 < PhantomWork> Hi there, question. I have 2 µC, a master and a slave, using IRDA @115200.     Master transmit 3 bytes, slave receive it all the time (validated by checksum), slave process it then transmit 2 bytes back. The master receive it for a while, then... I get some HAL_TIMEOUT error...    anyone have an idea what could be the issue?     about
2025-04-09T18:49:04 < PhantomWork> 400 "ping pong" per second, then when it fail it wait 100ms, and never recover... so, no idea what could be the issue...
2025-04-09T18:55:57 < zyp> shitty APIs and/or shitty API usage
2025-04-09T18:57:26 < zyp> irda sounds like something where you have to expect errors, so you'll want to have robust error recovery
2025-04-09T19:00:30 < fentyl> PhantomWork: HAL_TIMEOUT for reading the IrDA? Didn't you just lost a byte due to interference?
2025-04-09T19:02:03 < PhantomWork> fentyl: it is not just a single byte, it work fine for minutes at a time, then 100% break
2025-04-09T19:02:39 < PhantomWork> slave still receive, master fail to receive. I don't have a scope but a simple led on master Rx show activity, so the slave does transmit.
2025-04-09T19:03:26 < PhantomWork> it is as if the master become deaf...
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2025-04-09T19:03:42 < fentyl> it's hard to tell what's wrong if I don't know which API you used exactly
2025-04-09T19:04:20 < PhantomWork> my protocol should be robust:    while(1) {transmit, receive}        slave is: while(1) { receive, transmit}
2025-04-09T19:05:22 < PhantomWork> so a missing byte shouln't cause a full drop
2025-04-09T19:05:58 < PhantomWork> let me pastebin a simplified code...
2025-04-09T19:08:22 < qyx> PhantomWork: do you have RXNE interrupt enabled?
2025-04-09T19:08:40 < qyx> on the master
2025-04-09T19:12:58 < PhantomWork> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/c34a79c8/
2025-04-09T19:13:07 < PhantomWork> it is all pooled, and not enabled
2025-04-09T19:16:29 < qyx> isn't ISR->ORF set?
2025-04-09T19:19:43 < PhantomWork> I think I confirmed the issue just now... it seems like it buffer one byte, but not always
2025-04-09T19:21:01 < PhantomWork> so it missed one byte, and now buffer the second, return a timeout yet keep that byte, then receive the second "first" byte in the next receive...   which CRC fail, and buffer the second byte...
2025-04-09T19:21:24 < PhantomWork> my earlier tests show that it wasn't doing that... so... meh...  gonna try to find a way to fix it
2025-04-09T19:21:26 < qyx> yes you lost the framing
2025-04-09T19:21:40 < qyx> there are many ways to fail like this
2025-04-09T19:21:50 < qyx> you have to handle it
2025-04-09T19:22:29 < PhantomWork> 0377 Rx data: 0x003b 0x0100      <==== 2 9 bits bytes, 9th bytes indicate the frame start...    the 9th is set on the second byte, not first...
2025-04-09T19:22:41 < PhantomWork> ow well, I'll do something like the slave does instead...
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2025-04-09T19:25:29 < fentyl> ideally run the same stuff at both ends and share the code
2025-04-09T19:25:42 < fentyl> you have to fix only once not twice
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2025-04-09T21:02:53 < jpa-> haha, if i have been complaining about Aisler PCBA, now i finally get to complain about JLCPCB
2025-04-09T21:03:34 < jpa-> they had a random SMD resistor stuck below a chip, lifting one side off the board
2025-04-09T21:06:31 < zyp> I got a capacitor under a crystal from a local place once
2025-04-09T21:06:47 < zyp> and another board in the same series with the crystal upside down
2025-04-09T21:08:19 < nohit> are you guys gonna buy lumen pnp ?
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2025-04-09T21:09:04 < nohit> its only $2000
2025-04-09T21:09:50 < zyp> it's also only a p&p machine
2025-04-09T21:10:41 < nohit> yeah, you need also a solder paste printer
2025-04-09T21:10:51 < nohit> and reflow oven
2025-04-09T21:10:51 < zyp> and a reflow oven
2025-04-09T21:10:58 < nohit> which is already have
2025-04-09T21:11:01 < nohit> *i
2025-04-09T21:11:12 < zyp> and time to operate and maintain everything
2025-04-09T21:12:20 < zyp> having a p&p is one of those «it'd be fun, but it makes more financial sense to just outsource the service» things
2025-04-09T21:12:31 < qyx> no, I don't do series
2025-04-09T21:12:58 < qyx> and usually do special stuff and I don't have components on reels
2025-04-09T21:14:20 < zyp> if you were doing large enough volumes to justify a p&p, you could probably justify a better p&p than that
2025-04-09T21:14:37 < nohit> im considering a dedicated lab, it would only cost ~170e per month here, from an old industrial area
2025-04-09T21:15:44 < zyp> so, what's your use for a lumenpnp?
2025-04-09T21:16:18 < nohit> no use for it yet
2025-04-09T21:17:13 < zyp> I expect that if I attempted setting up my own assembly house, any potential savings vs outsourced assembly would be lost in yield issues
2025-04-09T21:17:45 < zyp> both scrapped parts and wasted time
2025-04-09T21:18:32 < zyp> I figure you need quite a high volume to get the process dialled well enough in that yield is not a significant problem
2025-04-09T21:19:10 < zyp> so I think I'll leave assembly to companies that's already there :)
2025-04-09T21:21:08 < jpa-> even loading up the feeders sounds like enough work that it doesn't make sense for protos.. and i don't want to be a factory worker doing series production
2025-04-09T21:22:38 < zyp> I'd probably rather load feeders than hand place components :)
2025-04-09T21:23:53 < zyp> but it's easier to just get protos assembled too
2025-04-09T21:24:19 < nohit> is it ?
2025-04-09T21:24:27 < nohit> i have always assembled my own boards
2025-04-09T21:24:33 < zyp> last I ordered a stencil for assembling a board myself, I ended up paying more for stencil+shipping than having jlcpcb do the assembly would have cost me
2025-04-09T21:24:56 < nohit> yes but what if JLCPCB dont have the components you need ?
2025-04-09T21:25:17 < zyp> the only reason I didn't do the latter is because it was a simple board with few parts, and jlcpcb didn't have one of the parts in stock and I didn't want to wait for them to get it
2025-04-09T21:25:54 < zyp> and then assembling it myself was an absolutely miserable experience :)
2025-04-09T21:26:12 < nohit> iirc you can send own parts to PCBWay but that sounds like a hassle
2025-04-09T21:26:22 < nohit> JLCPCB do not accept them
2025-04-09T21:26:38 < zyp> my reflow oven managed to slightly melt the connectors while not fully reflowing the solder
2025-04-09T21:26:44 < zyp> so I had to rework everything afterwards
2025-04-09T21:27:01 < zyp> yes, they do
2025-04-09T21:27:07 < nohit> i always solder by hand, i havent even tested my reflow oven yet
2025-04-09T21:27:22 < zyp> and jlcpcb can also get parts from digikey/mouser/etc…
2025-04-09T21:27:35 < nohit> but with next boards im gonna order a stencil and test it
2025-04-09T21:28:10 < zyp> I often do stuff you can't hand solder :)
2025-04-09T21:28:11 < nohit> they can ? i thought if they are not in lcsc then youre out of luck
2025-04-09T21:28:28 < zyp> used to be like that
2025-04-09T21:28:30 < nohit> everything can be hand-sodlered
2025-04-09T21:30:40 < zyp> I'm not counting reflowing with hotair as hand-soldering
2025-04-09T21:31:01 < fentyl> after 20 something years I finally taught myself to solder at least half-properly
2025-04-09T21:31:02 < zyp> and you're certainly not doing a BGA with an iron :)
2025-04-09T21:31:10 < fentyl> so I might enjoy soldering a board or two
2025-04-09T21:32:04 < zyp> fentyl, I do enough rework to scratch that itch, I don't need to assemble boards from scratch as well :)
2025-04-09T21:33:27 < fentyl> zyp: its basically just to tick the mark - I did solder SMD parts back when I've no longer been young nor pretty
2025-04-09T21:33:47 < fentyl> last thing I soldered was THT board
2025-04-09T21:33:54 < fentyl> I fucked even that up :>
2025-04-09T21:48:47 < nohit> the prices are much higher thru this global sourcing service than directly from mouser/digikey
2025-04-09T21:49:04 < Steffanx> how is it possible to fuck that up fentyl ?
2025-04-09T21:49:11 < zyp> yep
2025-04-09T21:50:30 < fentyl> Steffanx: shitty iron, shitty solder, shitty obsolete flux and holes one size too large
2025-04-09T21:50:48 < fentyl> also I made the board myself at home
2025-04-09T21:51:08 < fentyl> with something like expired photoresist
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2025-04-09T22:26:00 < Steffanx> oh shitty tools so shitty job..
2025-04-09T22:38:03 < fentyl> yeah, I am no hardware guy so I used whatever that was available
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2025-04-09T23:33:22 < karlp> nohit: now you'r ejust moving the goalposts :)  things you buy from global sourcing also get shipped once and end up in "your" warehouse, so youcan order more than need now to get a better price.
2025-04-09T23:33:30 < karlp> you can also resell them to other people.
2025-04-09T23:33:41 < karlp> but you _can_ get ~anything assembled by them now.
2025-04-09T23:35:40 < nohit> how am i moving goal posts ? i just noticed that the priced are extremely high via global sourcing
2025-04-09T23:41:11 < karlp> just felt like,"oh, cant' use that, it doesn'thave all the parts" "it has the parts" "oh, can't use that, it's too expensive"
2025-04-09T23:42:00 < karlp> I certainly will try and use eastern parts instead of "global sourcing" but it's very much an option
2025-04-09T23:47:30 < zyp> I usually end up with a mix of jlc and global sourcing parts
2025-04-09T23:47:51 < zyp> just depends what's cheaper/available
2025-04-09T23:48:07 < karlp> it's all still better letting them assemble than me :)
2025-04-09T23:48:24 < zyp> haven't tried sending them stuff yet, but I'll probably try that at some point too
2025-04-09T23:49:01 < karlp> back at old job we had digikey drop ship to nextpcb for some modems that nextpcb couldn't source for us.
2025-04-09T23:49:04 < zyp> and yeah, for low volume stuff the low NRE costs outweighs the BOM markup easily
2025-04-09T23:49:14 < karlp> was not super cheap, but proto pricing baby
2025-04-09T23:57:45 < zyp> I ran a 50-board series at jlcpcb for work once
2025-04-09T23:59:03 < zyp> IIRC it came out at less than half the price of another quote we got, even with the markup on the BOM
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2025-04-10T00:42:05 < qyx> ok I failed today, I overslept my most productive part of the day
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2025-04-10T01:04:11 < qyx> so what's the actual state of trumps tarrifs?
2025-04-10T01:04:20 < qyx> *tariffs
2025-04-10T01:05:20 < zyp> depends if you're asking about yesterday, today or tomorrow, it changes every day :)
2025-04-10T01:06:57 < qyx> https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-tariffs-trade-war-donald-trump-republican-states/
2025-04-10T01:07:03 < qyx> haha I laff
2025-04-10T01:07:12 < qyx> the reasoning is exceptional
2025-04-10T01:07:39 < qyx> Let’s start with the EU’s No. 1 target — soybeans, the most valuable item on the bloc’s hit list, a product whose economic and symbolic significance for the Republican Party's heartlands cannot be overstated
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2025-04-10T01:08:42 < qyx> I guess it will most probably hit TI, ADI, etc stuff too?
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2025-04-10T11:19:42 < qyx> Due to the use of epoxy glue for lid sealing, hermeticity of the package is not guaranteed. Processing or use of
2025-04-10T11:19:45 < qyx> this package in a harsh environment should be assessed by the customer.
2025-04-10T11:19:45 < qyx> wwhat
2025-04-10T11:22:06 < jpa-> there was an attempt
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2025-04-10T11:44:47 < qyx> I always though numpy+matplotlib is for lamers and pros use matlab/octave
2025-04-10T11:45:21 < qyx> now I see numpy+matplotlib much more powerful
2025-04-10T11:46:41 < jpa-> i hate matplotlib, but i hate octave's plot system too
2025-04-10T11:46:57 < qyx> I hate both
2025-04-10T11:47:01 < zyp> haha
2025-04-10T11:47:39 < qyx> if I made a proper and usable interactive matplotlib gui, I would be loving it
2025-04-10T11:47:53 < qyx> mostly
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2025-04-10T11:53:55 < zyp> tried https://nicegui.io/documentation/section_data_elements#pyplot_context ?
2025-04-10T11:56:47 < qyx> doesn't look proper
2025-04-10T11:57:00 < qyx> just some fancy plotly clone
2025-04-10T11:57:06 < zyp> idk
2025-04-10T11:57:10 < zyp> there's also bokeh
2025-04-10T11:57:15 < qyx> I mean a Qt app
2025-04-10T11:58:24 < zyp> hmm, I should have some bokeh stuff around somewhere
2025-04-10T11:59:54 < qyx> also jupyter, I am not yet decided whether I should try it
2025-04-10T12:00:16 < zyp> oh, yeah, I made this stuff to show ethernet packet timings: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/zJzZ0/pcapgraph.html
2025-04-10T12:01:36 < qyx> yeah it has nicer icons than matplotlib's default but otherwise the functionality is the same
2025-04-10T12:02:01 < qyx> one of the features I used the most in octave was ctrl+c
2025-04-10T12:02:07 < qyx> and paste into a document
2025-04-10T12:02:33 < zyp> the nice thing about bokeh is that you get a standalone html file that's browsable
2025-04-10T12:02:47 < zyp> e.g. you can zoom around in that pcapgraph thing
2025-04-10T12:02:48 < qyx> yeah pyplot/dash does the same
2025-04-10T12:02:55 < qyx> sorry plotly
2025-04-10T12:03:07 < zyp> ah
2025-04-10T12:03:26 < qyx> https://plotly.com/examples/
2025-04-10T12:05:03 < BrainDamage> jupyter is just a fancy ipython wrapper
2025-04-10T12:06:15 < BrainDamage> I guess what you want is something like origin (commercial), and its clones
2025-04-10T12:06:22 < BrainDamage> iirc there's veusz
2025-04-10T12:07:06 < jpa-> i hate the gui plotter that karlp uses too
2025-04-10T12:07:10 < jpa-> gnuplot is the only one i like
2025-04-10T12:08:06 < qyx> BrainDamage: I just want a matplotlib gui, that's all
2025-04-10T12:08:37 < qyx> I want to "browse" the graph as a 2025 person, proper zooming, panning, etc.
2025-04-10T12:08:45 < qyx> measure on the graph
2025-04-10T12:08:52 < qyx> take snapshots
2025-04-10T12:09:04 < qyx> get point corrdinates in a sane way (that is, not rewriting it by hand)
2025-04-10T12:09:19 < qyx> etc.
2025-04-10T12:09:30 < qyx> nothing really fancy, just a usable gui on top of matplotlib
2025-04-10T12:09:33 < BrainDamage> sounds like you're more annoyed by the output widget window then
2025-04-10T12:10:11 < qyx> if I want to present the data in a paper, it is ok, I generaet a svg and insert it
2025-04-10T12:10:23 < qyx> but I want to tweak the graph beforehand, look at it properly
2025-04-10T12:10:32 < qyx> maybe change grids, ticks, axis limits
2025-04-10T12:10:35 < qyx> interactivel
2025-04-10T12:10:44 < qyx> and not by rewriting the python source and running again
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2025-04-10T12:12:12 < tomeaton17> origin is nice but not free
2025-04-10T12:13:41 < jpa-> gnuplot does most of the zooming, panning measure etc. stuff but you have to press weird keys to do it
2025-04-10T12:14:30 < BrainDamage> fwiw the qt output backend for matplotlib youcan do zoom, pan, etc, but not sectioning the graph or output coordinates to a file
2025-04-10T12:14:40 < jpa-> but yeah, i would really like python to have some sensible output widget for the stuff, and preferrably one that works well in jupyter *and* that works in jupyter after you save and reload
2025-04-10T12:14:58 < BrainDamage> you can extend it, but that means doing ui programming
2025-04-10T12:15:23 < BrainDamage> same for the js output widget, mutatis mutandis
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2025-04-10T12:31:36 < tomeaton17> Any altium enjoyers?
2025-04-10T12:32:06 < zyp> yeah?
2025-04-10T12:33:07  * qyx @ steff metal
2025-04-10T12:35:08 < tomeaton17> Is there still no way to get an outjob to zip up the gerbers and drills for you? having to use chinese fab house and they don't accept woke odb++
2025-04-10T12:36:03 < zyp> «still»? haven't that been possible since forever?
2025-04-10T12:36:04 < Steffanx> Uh what qyx?
2025-04-10T12:38:32 < qyx> that's a good quality nordic metal which Steffanx surely wouldn't like
2025-04-10T12:38:44 < qyx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UMwLxFNKS0
2025-04-10T12:41:05 < tomeaton17> zyp where?
2025-04-10T12:42:29 < zyp> pretty sure my recent outjobs generate zips, but I don't have them available at the moment
2025-04-10T12:43:53 < tomeaton17> zyp alright, I cant see an option for that in the gerber settings
2025-04-10T12:45:22 < zyp> look at the target settings for the whole job, around where you select which dir to put the results in
2025-04-10T12:47:26 < tomeaton17> do you mean the output container?
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2025-04-10T13:29:28 < qyx> who on earth designs SPI protocol with a r/w bit at the beginning
2025-04-10T13:32:20 < jpa-> i often use a command byte at beginning and the topmost bit of the command byte as read/write
2025-04-10T13:39:40 < zyp> yeah, that's common
2025-04-10T13:40:25 < zyp> first byte out is r/w and register addr and first byte in is status flags
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2025-04-10T14:37:57 < qyx> so, my accel generates data at about 208 Hz and has no way to synchronize
2025-04-10T14:38:07 < qyx> so I am reading the data register precisely at 200 Hz
2025-04-10T14:38:13 < qyx> what distortion could I expect?
2025-04-10T14:41:21 < zyp> which accel is this?
2025-04-10T14:41:45 < qyx> iis2iclx
2025-04-10T14:42:01 < qyx> the more pro accel, the less sync features
2025-04-10T14:42:16 < qyx> I am getting some 250€ ones and they have nothing
2025-04-10T14:42:50 < zyp> what do you mean, datasheet says FIFO on front page, I assume that means you can check how many samples are in the FIFO
2025-04-10T14:43:15 < qyx> that not what sampling sync is
2025-04-10T14:43:29 < qyx> it has a free running internal oscillator
2025-04-10T14:43:38 < qyx> and no means of syncing it to an external clock
2025-04-10T14:43:47 < qyx> so the sampling freq is arbitrary
2025-04-10T14:44:08 < qyx> yes I have fifo and drdy interrupt, but that doesn't help me if I have 3 such misbehaving sensors
2025-04-10T14:45:36 < zyp> yeah, sure, but «the sample clock is not locked to my processing clock» is not the same problem as «I'm reading the data register and I don't know if the value I got is a repeat of the previous, the next sample, or two samples after the previous»
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2025-04-10T14:48:06 < jpa-> you could do a fancy resampling filter
2025-04-10T14:48:27 < qyx> zyp: how would that help
2025-04-10T14:48:36 < qyx> yeah either resampling or it simply doesn't matter
2025-04-10T14:48:40 < zyp> how would what help?
2025-04-10T14:49:24 < qyx> knowing if I missed a sample because the sensor clock is <200 Hz (causing a previous one to be duplicated) or if it is overwritten twice (clock > 200 Hz)
2025-04-10T14:50:25 < zyp> well, if you're using the FIFO, you're not losing any data
2025-04-10T14:51:15 < qyx> yes I know but then again, what to do with missing/surplus samples?
2025-04-10T14:51:20 < qyx> I still need to  process them
2025-04-10T14:51:24 < qyx> that's not the question
2025-04-10T14:51:45 < zyp> you could do a fancy resampling filter
2025-04-10T14:51:53 < qyx> the question is if skipping/copying samples to resample introduces distortion
2025-04-10T14:52:03 < qyx> or I need a fancy resampling filter instead
2025-04-10T14:52:16 < zyp> the answer is yes, the question is whether it's negligible or not
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2025-04-10T14:56:53 < qyx> or better, do I care
2025-04-10T14:57:09 < qyx> let's numpy it
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2025-04-10T14:59:27 < zyp> that's what negligible means
2025-04-10T15:03:14 < qyx> also, it is much easier to read the data register directly if possible in realtime to timestamp the result than to reinvent methods to sync samples from the fifo with a timestamping timer
2025-04-10T15:03:48 < qyx> the MCUs only responsibility is to read sensors so I can schedule reasing properly and deterministically
2025-04-10T15:07:24 < jpa-> https://jpa.kapsi.fi/stuff/pix/qyx_decimation.png   i tried to simulate it, seems like not much effect at low frequencies, then some spikes if the signal frequency is exact multiple of the difference between the two samplerates
2025-04-10T15:13:20 < qyx> oh my AI friend jpa- 
2025-04-10T15:14:15 < jpa-> oops, i think the drop-off is actually a bug in code, updated image and the decimation has even less effect
2025-04-10T15:16:44 < qyx> I expected much more
2025-04-10T15:16:49 < jpa-> the exact value of the spikes depends on how the frequencies land, but it seems it is max   10 * log10(208/200) dB
2025-04-10T15:16:50 < qyx> but was lazy to find out
2025-04-10T15:16:57 < jpa-> there is probably some nice mathematical reason for that
2025-04-10T15:17:36 < qyx> 10*log?
2025-04-10T15:18:05 < jpa-> yeah, even though i have 20 * log for the conversion
2025-04-10T15:18:10 < jpa-> seems half it
2025-04-10T15:30:21 < jpa-> looks like it is actually better to decimate 208 -> 200 Hz than 416 -> 200 Hz, even if you sum together the extra samples in the latter case
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2025-04-10T15:39:00 < PhantomWork> Hi there again, same issue as yesterday. But scarier. So I did some minor modification to the code that should have made things better, it got worse, way worse. Then I added more debug code AFTER the problematic section, and... the problem is "gone". anyone have some tricks to debug this kind of issue?
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2025-04-10T15:40:01 < PhantomWork> context: IRDA communication where the master stop receiving data and get HAL_TIMEOUT ....
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2025-04-10T15:45:39 < jpa-> could be timing issue, could be random memory corruption
2025-04-10T15:45:48 < jpa-> (by random, i mean you have messed up some pointer)
2025-04-10T15:46:13 < jpa-> look at the registers instead of "HAL_TIMEOUT" nonsense
2025-04-10T15:47:26 < qyx> jpa-: actually i am decimating then again from 200 to 5 Hz
2025-04-10T15:47:55 < jpa-> hopefully with a reasonable resampler
2025-04-10T15:48:24 < jpa-> because just skipping samples to go from 200 to 5 Hz is asking for huge aliasing
2025-04-10T15:48:41 < qyx> averaging them
2025-04-10T15:48:59 < jpa-> just per sample?
2025-04-10T15:49:07 < jpa-> still gives pretty bad aliasing
2025-04-10T15:49:26 < jpa-> you could do CIC filter directly from the 208 Hz then, if you don't mind the droop towards 2.5 Hz
2025-04-10T15:51:48 < PhantomWork> jpa-: random memory corruption is my prime suspect, this code use DMA for the PWM for neopixels
2025-04-10T15:52:57 < PhantomWork> I suspect that the issue is due to that, but no idea how to debug, confirm and even less fix it
2025-04-10T15:54:52 < tomeaton17> Anyone used converge for part sourcing?
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2025-04-10T15:59:44 < jpa-> PhantomWork: use debugger to see what has gone wrong
2025-04-10T16:00:07 < jpa-> can't really give anything more than that, but you know how things should be and something is not like it should be..
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2025-04-10T17:45:34 < PhantomWork> jpa-: re: debugger.... well, right now the problem dissapeared by adding more debug code... so... it's a pain...
2025-04-10T17:46:32 < PhantomWork> do you know what happen if you modify a DMA memory while it is being "DMAed" to the PWM hardware? My undestanding is that it may output the wrong pwm, but that's it, no corruption...
2025-04-10T17:47:08 < jpa-> correct
2025-04-10T17:47:28 < jpa-> word accesses are atomic, so in general case it won't even output wrong values
2025-04-10T17:47:54 < jpa-> but if your problem is sensitive to adding code elsewhere in the program, you should avoid doing that while debugging
2025-04-10T17:48:20 < jpa-> instead use gdb to inspect the register states after you have some apparent problem (like the timeout) and work your way back to see what has caused it
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2025-04-10T17:49:05 < jpa-> you may want to check for stack usage also, e.g. fill the stack on start and see how far it has been used
2025-04-10T17:49:35 < PhantomWork> the stack is what I think happen
2025-04-10T17:49:52 < PhantomWork> I have some printf, I think that one may use quite some ram...
2025-04-10T17:50:09 < PhantomWork> plus, I have a 280 words array, so might be full...
2025-04-10T17:50:51 < jpa-> you could make the array static or global to try things out (also if you run DMA with a stack array, better not leave the scope before DMA is done..)
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2025-04-10T17:52:07 < PhantomWork> led PWM is global, but not volatile, aka uint16_t LED_PWM_Data[(24*MAX_LED)+280] = { 0 };      is that fine?
2025-04-10T17:52:33 < jpa-> well, at least it is not on stack
2025-04-10T17:54:43 < srk> what chip is that?
2025-04-10T17:55:19 < PhantomWork> looking at the code, 8 bytes is allocated in main, 1 in each 3 functions... so really nothing much in term of variable..
2025-04-10T17:55:23 < PhantomWork> stm32f103
2025-04-10T17:56:00 < jpa-> printf does use a lot of stack, but checking stack usage is pretty simple so why not just do it
2025-04-10T17:56:29 < jpa-> fill the few words at bottom of the stack with 0xDEADBEEF and in gdb check if they are still intact
2025-04-10T17:57:00 < PhantomWork> do you have a guide on how to do so?
2025-04-10T17:57:19 < jpa-> nah, but google probably does; it's quite basic stuff
2025-04-10T17:58:18 < jpa-> do you have gdb working?
2025-04-10T17:58:39 < srk> I would suspect caches but on F1.. proly not
2025-04-10T17:58:40 < PhantomWork> I have stm32cubeide only
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2025-04-10T20:17:18 < PhantomWork> on AVR you have an atomic block(restore_state), is there a direct equivalent in stm32?
2025-04-10T20:19:06 < nohit> no
2025-04-10T20:21:08 < PhantomWork> sad. then I can just blindly disable and enable irq   and no side effects beside possibly missing the second of same irq right?
2025-04-10T20:24:18 < nohit> i do not know your spesific case
2025-04-10T20:26:02 < PhantomWork> avoiding a possible race condition between a function call and an interrupt
2025-04-10T20:26:24 < PhantomWork> ow well, will do some tests see ya
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2025-04-10T20:30:38 < zyp> nohit, what, of course there is
2025-04-10T20:31:56 < zyp> but what it's called depends on what library you're using
2025-04-10T20:31:57 < nohit> that is arv-gcc spesific thing, i doubt arm gcc has a thing like that
2025-04-10T20:32:11 < nohit> or avr-libc rather
2025-04-10T20:32:27 < fentyl> its nothing more than a fancy wrap around enable / disable interrupts anyway
2025-04-10T20:33:08 < zyp> yep
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2025-04-10T20:35:33 < fentyl> and I doubt an interrupt would be missed due to interrupts disabled
2025-04-10T20:35:52 < zyp> in my library, they're C++ RAII, and store restore_state internally, I have implementations for both cortex-m and risc-v: https://github.com/zyp/laks/blob/main/interrupt/critical_section.h
2025-04-10T20:36:45 < fentyl> I do that by the means of transactions
2025-04-10T20:36:55 < fentyl> so the period where interrupts are disabled are short
2025-04-10T20:36:59 < fentyl> but there are gotchas
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2025-04-10T20:37:25 < zyp> RAII is the way to go if you've working with a reasonably modern language
2025-04-10T20:38:10 < zyp> if you want the period to be short, you just make the scope as small as possible
2025-04-10T20:38:13 < fentyl> sure, the problem here wasn't resource ownership or something derived from it. the problem here was that in certain cases you can't afford critical section at all
2025-04-10T20:38:43 < zyp> sure, critical sections are the crowbar approach
2025-04-10T20:38:58 < zyp> you can do much more fine grained stuff with atomics
2025-04-10T20:39:12 < fentyl> like this: the scheduler in my RTOS is a rather rudimentary piece of code and takes long time to calculate next scheduled thread
2025-04-10T20:39:27 < fentyl> aaaand it can be called from interrupts as a side-effect of sending a notification
2025-04-10T20:40:23 < fentyl> if I put this slow routine into critical section, potential IRQ latency would be long, several hundred cycles at best and that would increase with increasing number of threads running in the system
2025-04-10T20:40:53 < fentyl> if I don't put it into critical section, interrupt may happen while kernel is in scheduler, it can call scheduler and corrupt scheduler state
2025-04-10T20:41:40 < fentyl> the way how this is solved is by "transacting" access to scheduler data structures
2025-04-10T20:42:42 < fentyl> reading these structures can be performed in parallel, otherwise unconstrained. you just need to start a transaction before you do so. once you figure out what you want to write, you "commit" the transaction.
2025-04-10T20:43:04 < fentyl> if commit passes, you know that nobody modified these structures since you started your transaction and you have exclusive write access
2025-04-10T20:43:33 < fentyl> if it fails, someone committed a transaction between your transaction start and attempt to commit it
2025-04-10T20:44:04 < fentyl> it is then context dependent what happens if your transaction commit fails
2025-04-10T20:44:46 < fentyl> scheduler will simply give up as only interrupt that called sched_yield could cause the transaction to abort
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2025-04-11T15:45:17 < karlp> I'mquite pleased with my binary RTT implementation: https://github.com/karlp/zypsnips/blob/master/rtt-binary-csv.py
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2025-04-11T15:51:43 < Steffanx> It's a kind of magic
2025-04-11T15:53:53 < karlp> but now I get alllll my samplesfor plotting :)
2025-04-11T15:53:58 < karlp> so I'm winning at least.
2025-04-11T15:54:06 < karlp> fighting back against this shitbox m0
2025-04-11T16:15:26 < zyp> hmm, maybe should add a rtt transport to smolt
2025-04-11T16:16:43 < zyp> karlp, are you doing C++?
2025-04-11T16:18:14 < karlp> no.
2025-04-11T16:18:24 < karlp> zyp: I was thinking of your smolt stuff when I did this.
2025-04-11T16:18:44 < karlp> like, it's super hardcoded, which is simple, but it's so obviously ripe for automation like your smolt stuff
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2025-04-11T17:39:12 < zyp> you nerdsniped me, walked the baby for an hour while thinking about smolt
2025-04-11T17:39:38 < karlp>  i didn't do shit :) I was just showing off somethign I was somewhat proud of doing :)
2025-04-11T17:39:56 < karlp> you brought up smolt yourself ;)
2025-04-11T17:40:14 < zyp> fair enough; your stuff made me nerdsnipe myself :)
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2025-04-11T17:45:58 < zyp> how does RTT work, AIUi it has channels; are they just bytestreams?
2025-04-11T17:46:53 < zyp> smolt is designed to take advantage of sideband stuff for framing, so it needs more than just a bytestream
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2025-04-11T17:53:39 < karlp> yeah, you get a buffer with a read/write pointer,
2025-04-11T17:53:51 < karlp> so when you come back to re-read it, you can see how much you need to fetch, 
2025-04-11T17:53:59 < karlp> and it's on you to come back often enough not to wrap.
2025-04-11T17:54:02 < karlp> ~ish.
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2025-04-11T18:19:52 < zyp> smolt has a ringbuffer transport, but currently it's only designed for after-the-fact readout from gdb
2025-04-11T18:20:08 < zyp> but I was thinking about how to do a live one while I walked
2025-04-11T18:21:59 < zyp> since it's all pluggable, for cases where direct blocking output is too slow, it could also output into a buffer, and then have an idle task that feeds from the buffer to one of the other transports, e.g. ITM
2025-04-11T18:22:59 < zyp> it could be useful e.g. when doing event tracing during OS task switches
2025-04-11T18:23:23 < zyp> I've thought about extending smolt with tracing functionality
2025-04-11T18:23:58 < zyp> could use all the same infrastructure, just without log text attached to the tags
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2025-04-12T19:15:15 < Steffanx> Sleep crew is alseep
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2025-04-12T19:45:41 < qyx> because life is safu steff
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2025-04-13T00:17:23 < Steffanx> Is it qyx?
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2025-04-13T00:28:49 < qyx> you bet
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2025-04-13T00:55:15 < Steffanx> Hm
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2025-04-13T22:50:24 < qyx> so github is slowly becoming an usable RST renderer
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2025-04-13T22:58:32 < machinehum> bumbom
2025-04-13T22:58:34 < machinehum> b
2025-04-13T23:00:10 < jbo> machinehum
2025-04-13T23:03:51 < machinehum> jbo: yo
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2025-04-13T23:11:14 < Steffanx> Whoa jbo is back :o
2025-04-13T23:11:50 < jbo> :*
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2025-04-13T23:13:57 < fentyl> I know USB to more detail than I ever wanted to
2025-04-13T23:15:49 < jbo> I have the same thing with filing taxes
2025-04-13T23:16:04 < machinehum> jbo: you pay those?
2025-04-13T23:18:09 < jbo> only when you're not around
2025-04-13T23:19:47 < machinehum> "We got a complaint someone is getting high and drunk playing space in the middle of the street."
2025-04-13T23:20:41 < machinehum> jbo: Does bt suck in freebsd?
2025-04-13T23:21:11 < jbo> machinehum, yes
2025-04-13T23:21:34 < machinehum> good
2025-04-13T23:21:38 < jbo> https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/what-does-not-work-very-good-on-freebsd.89893/#post-618222
2025-04-13T23:22:16 < machinehum> "Wireless interfaces
2025-04-13T23:22:18 < machinehum> "
2025-04-13T23:24:51 < fentyl> machinehum: BT sucks everywhere
2025-04-13T23:24:55 < jbo> ^
2025-04-13T23:24:58 < fentyl> since its dawn
2025-04-13T23:25:05 < jbo> none of my desktops are even dual boot anymore. I'm 100% FreeBSD.
2025-04-13T23:25:10 < jbo> don't feel any pain.
2025-04-13T23:26:27 < qyx> what is dual boot
2025-04-13T23:30:03 < machinehum> lol you guys don't have mainline drivers for 2.5€ chick wifi chips?
2025-04-13T23:30:31 < qyx> no because of *tariffs*
2025-04-13T23:30:34 < machinehum> rtw88 rules
2025-04-13T23:30:45 < machinehum> heh
2025-04-13T23:31:33 < machinehum> RTL8723B like 5 bucks now
2025-04-13T23:33:36 < jbo> you moved to .ch, stop being a cheapscate
2025-04-13T23:34:06 < machinehum> I can't just use Lt gucci shit and expect people to pay for that
2025-04-13T23:34:19 < machinehum> This ain't medical shit
2025-04-13T23:34:51 < machinehum> Allwinner, ti and realtek
2025-04-13T23:35:08 < machinehum> I don't fuck with chinese power supplies not worth is
2025-04-13T23:35:34 < qyx> better find your personal underground bunker, I heards there's plenty of them in .ch
2025-04-13T23:35:38 < qyx> -s
2025-04-13T23:35:57 < machinehum> This places is armed to the gills
2025-04-13T23:36:08 < machinehum> All the bridge are rigged with tnt
2025-04-13T23:36:14 < machinehum> everyone has a gun
2025-04-13T23:36:20 < jbo> the way it should be.
2025-04-13T23:36:21 < machinehum> zero gun violence
2025-04-13T23:36:25 < jbo> exactly.
2025-04-13T23:36:31 < jbo> you're just jealous
2025-04-13T23:36:34 < jbo> fagger
2025-04-13T23:36:39 < qyx> is the  tnt a real thing?
2025-04-13T23:36:52 < jbo> yes
2025-04-13T23:36:59 < qyx> very interesting
2025-04-13T23:37:05 < machinehum> Canada doesn't have mandatory school shootings
2025-04-13T23:37:15 < jbo> 51st state stfu
2025-04-13T23:37:19 < machinehum> We just hangout and get drunk
2025-04-13T23:37:22 < jbo> :D
2025-04-13T23:37:30 < machinehum> But Canadians should get guns
2025-04-13T23:37:33 < machinehum> ar15 ideally
2025-04-13T23:37:44 < machinehum> Lots of data telling me they're good for killing yanks
2025-04-13T23:38:00 < machinehum> My friends are actually
2025-04-13T23:38:03 < qyx> I guess I should make a daq expansion board for firing detonating fuses
2025-04-13T23:38:33 < machinehum> use lt gucci shit
2025-04-13T23:38:41 < machinehum> jbo: You use LT shit?
2025-04-13T23:38:55 < qyx> I have the required cabling infrastructure, it is only a matter of a box here and there
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2025-04-14T14:05:02 < jbo> with AI
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2025-04-14T18:24:21 < fenugrec> IMU pros in here ? if you fix two 6DOF imus at a known distance on a rigid body, can that help reduce drift errors ? Since the sensors are mechanically connected I would think some matrix magic might eliminate some error terms
2025-04-14T18:24:55 < Steffanx> Mawk make your maths useful
2025-04-14T18:25:27 < qyx> fenugrec: I wouldn't say so otherwise everybody would do that
2025-04-14T18:25:45 < qyx> but what indeed helps is array of accelerometers for temperature offset drift reduction
2025-04-14T18:26:47 < fenugrec> yes, that is a counterargument at the top of my list. But also I'm guessing often a magnetometer correction is probably usually 'good enough'. But intuitively, if one gyro is drifting, you should be able to tell since it would 'disagree' with the integral of the other accelero
2025-04-14T18:26:48 < qyx> what drift °/h would you want to achieve?
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2025-04-14T18:28:10 < qyx> 2 axes can be compensated by accelerometer, yaw is harder, magnetometer not always work (i have a use case when it never works)
2025-04-14T18:28:15 < fenugrec> 0 ofc : ) I'm at a very early conceptual stage, maybe the typical 'pretty good' specs around 2deg/h might be good enough
2025-04-14T18:28:54 < qyx> oh 2°/h is a shitty gyro
2025-04-14T18:28:54 < BrainDamage> you'll be able to cancel only the 1st term of the drift ( in a taylor expansion )
2025-04-14T18:29:31 < BrainDamage> the usual math of a kalman filter should still work, you just adjust the equation of motion vs the inputs
2025-04-14T18:29:53 < qyx> if your concept allows about 500 bucks, check gypro4300
2025-04-14T18:30:33 < qyx> also check ericco international for TBD bucks
2025-04-14T18:30:36 < qyx> no quote yet
2025-04-14T18:30:42 < qyx> they are mems too
2025-04-14T18:31:53 < qyx> I am gonna do 2 tactical grade gyros, 1 navi grade for yaw and pretty common accelerometers
2025-04-14T18:32:12 < qyx> (because I have other sensors to fuse the 6DOF with)
2025-04-14T18:33:07 < BrainDamage> also, the reason why it's not done, is because installing a better IMU is often simpler and more reliable
2025-04-14T18:33:21 < BrainDamage> and/or integrating with an absolute positioning system
2025-04-14T18:33:23 < fenugrec> interesting. yea the AD 'tactical grade' parts are interesting, albeit $$
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2025-04-14T18:38:23 < qyx> yes 6dof+gnss is commonly done
2025-04-14T18:38:33 < qyx> or even 6dof+2gnss
2025-04-14T18:38:59 < qyx> acceptable setup for that is under 1000 whatever bucks
2025-04-14T18:39:18 < qyx> now that we have cheap ublox and those other chink RTK receivers
2025-04-14T18:40:21 < qyx> note that ublox may be better in many cases than geodetic-grade receivers (novatel, trimble, etc)
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2025-04-14T18:40:56 < c10ud> is st any good?
2025-04-14T18:41:15 < qyx> what, mems?
2025-04-14T18:41:27 < c10ud> gps
2025-04-14T18:41:45 < qyx> idk I saw that only recently
2025-04-14T18:41:47 < fenugrec> qyx eh, RTK has a lot of secret sauce in the processing and disambiguation algos, not sure if ublox has the lead there
2025-04-14T18:41:51 < qyx> looked good on the paper
2025-04-14T18:42:46 < qyx> fenugrec: I am pretty sure for realtime base/rover, there are papers for that
2025-04-14T18:43:00 < qyx> you need a quality antenna though
2025-04-14T18:43:26 < qyx> but now even better is hexxagon tri-whatever-the-name-is
2025-04-14T18:44:24 < qyx> no, what was the new o e
2025-04-14T18:44:35 < fenugrec> yes, and rtklib gives you opensource processing, but getting a Fixed solution rapidly when you have multipath issues, is a demanding test
2025-04-14T18:45:09 < qyx> septentrio
2025-04-14T18:45:11 < fenugrec> I messed a bit with an older trimble 5700, and new-ish Emlid Reach stuff, although the latter I have the L1-only version which makes a huuuuge difference
2025-04-14T18:45:35 < qyx> idk whats i side the emlid
2025-04-14T18:45:40 < qyx> didn't you open it?
2025-04-14T18:46:13 < qyx> oh septentrio is indeed hexagon but it is not listed on their web
2025-04-14T18:46:57 < qyx> anyway I will have some samples at hand so I'll see
2025-04-14T18:47:12 < fenugrec> didn't open it, can't remember what chipset they used
2025-04-14T18:47:56 < qyx> I am co sidering using their base stations for my workproj
2025-04-14T18:48:23 < qyx> but they need a cloud service to make a rtk source
2025-04-14T18:49:08 < fenugrec> I was going to say, make sure you have a good strategy for your data link. IIRC some of emlid's stuff was half-baked in that regards, maybe it improved
2025-04-14T18:50:02 < fenugrec> I was using shitty aliE ISM modems with very mixed results. 900m in a residential area, and another day 400m in a field I kept getting interrupted / corrupt data.
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2025-04-14T18:52:43 < fenugrec> if you can afford two RTK ant+rx , you could get some very good yaw correction, and pretty good pitch/roll too, up to a limit
2025-04-14T18:54:15 < fenugrec> although the math to process this 'constrained' baseline is above my level, and I don't think naively plugging in the raw data to rtklib would give the best results
2025-04-14T18:56:16 < qyx> I don't plan to
2025-04-14T18:56:39 < qyx> I will live feed rtcm from base to rover + save observation data for postprocessing
2025-04-14T18:56:47 < qyx> that's everything I need
2025-04-14T18:57:27 < fenugrec> ah yea if you don't need realtime
2025-04-14T19:00:13 < qyx> whatcha imu-innovating?
2025-04-14T19:02:31 < fenugrec> I was going off a tangent with the dual-RTK thing, that was for some vehicle data acquisition idea that I was interested in 10y ago but it's a Solved Problem now. IMU thing is a secret (probably stupid) idea
2025-04-14T19:04:43 < qyx> oh I have a similar half-secret half-stupid idea but it may actually work
2025-04-14T19:05:11 < qyx> (it half-works for hexagon)
2025-04-14T19:05:32 < qyx> s/idea/workproj
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2025-04-14T19:14:20 < fenugrec> heh
2025-04-14T19:18:23 < fenugrec> BrainDamage how do you figure 'only 1st term of drift' ? Is it because the correction is 'one integration away' from the rawdata
2025-04-14T19:19:10 < BrainDamage> because you only have 1 extra datapoint
2025-04-14T19:19:58 < BrainDamage> you can only fit 1 line in 2 datapoints, but you can fit infinite parabulas
2025-04-14T19:23:02 < BrainDamage> and yes, that's the same way to look at it, first integration term is a line, 2nd is a quadratic, etc
2025-04-14T19:26:05 < qyx> zyp: were that you wanting to get rid of your riglol dso?
2025-04-14T19:44:53 < fenugrec> BrainDamage thanks. I'll need to think about this. Should've paid more attention in numeric analysis '2011 : )
2025-04-14T19:46:45 < qyx> I failed numeric analysis in 2008
2025-04-14T19:47:01 < qyx> did it again in 2009 though
2025-04-14T19:47:09 < qyx> still knows nothing
2025-04-14T19:47:20 < qyx> -s
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2025-04-14T20:51:29 < Steffanx> 2009, 2011... Where did the time go?! :o
2025-04-14T20:55:41 < jpa-> http://paste.dy.fi/8Lc/plain   heh, ebike code started suddenly crashing.. looks like i have somehow managed to corrupt a few bytes from flash
2025-04-14T20:59:22 < Steffanx> Fun times... 
2025-04-14T21:27:22 < jpa-> i wonder if the bits have just faded.. i have some flash writing in the code, but that's on a different sector
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2025-04-14T21:48:55 < jpa-> looks like the next write it would have done is to 0x08005400, and the previous record of 128 bytes before that was successfully written; the corrupted word is at 0x08022694
2025-04-14T21:49:50 < zyp> qyx, the old one?
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2025-04-14T22:55:02 < jbo> Steffanx
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2025-04-14T23:16:45 < Steffanx> jbo
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2025-04-14T23:20:28 < Steffanx> Is it time?
2025-04-14T23:29:59 < jbo> yes
2025-04-14T23:34:46 < Steffanx> Time to heat up the oven
2025-04-14T23:35:20 < jbo> yeah
2025-04-14T23:35:21 < jbo> once I get home
2025-04-14T23:35:52 < Steffanx> Why aren't you home?
2025-04-14T23:38:18 < jbo> I was wondering the same thing
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2025-04-14T23:41:07 < Steffanx> Hm
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2025-04-15T02:00:20 < qyx> zyp: yeah
2025-04-15T02:02:19 < qyx> the couple of tens MHz, 4 channel one, was it 1054?
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2025-04-15T02:04:45 < zyp> ds1042c
2025-04-15T02:05:36 < qyx> oh 2 channel only
2025-04-15T02:05:49 < qyx> I want to ebay a 4 channel thing
2025-04-15T02:05:59 < qyx> but a new one is about 500€, I may just buy that
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2025-04-15T02:18:34 < qyx> wut they are using android on teir scopes now?
2025-04-15T02:18:37 < qyx> what about no
2025-04-15T02:20:59 < jbo> wait what
2025-04-15T02:21:01 < jbo> really
2025-04-15T02:25:15 < qyx> DHO804 for example
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2025-04-15T04:39:24 < qyx> is texim legit Steffanx?
2025-04-15T04:39:34 < qyx> texim-europe.com
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2025-04-15T09:06:47 < nohit> does any of the m0+ stm32s have SWO ?
2025-04-15T09:06:58 < nohit> F0 or C0 series 
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2025-04-15T09:13:03 < jpa-> i don't think cortex-m0+ has it at architectural level, so it is unlikely for any chip to have it either
2025-04-15T09:26:37 < nohit> damn
2025-04-15T09:36:31 < qyx> is that bad
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2025-04-15T10:15:10 < nohit> yes
2025-04-15T10:15:53 < nohit> that means i cant have SWO
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2025-04-15T10:43:08 < qyx> I still don't understand why is $customer calling me 2 minutes after sending me an email or filling a bug
2025-04-15T10:43:27 < qyx> with "hey I just sent you an email"
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2025-04-15T11:09:27 < Steffanx> I think we have done business with them here qyx
2025-04-15T11:10:26 < Steffanx> And a search in my mailbox confirms it.
2025-04-15T11:10:57 < qyx> great, they have technexion cameras
2025-04-15T11:33:28 < fentyl> nohit: CM0+ can't have SWO
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2025-04-15T12:43:35 < karlp> fuck cm0. cm0 is dead to me. 
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2025-04-15T15:59:05 < nohit> why there is no stm32 cortex-m23s ?
2025-04-15T15:59:22 < nohit> that is the replacement core for m0+
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2025-04-15T16:10:50 < karlp> because they're just as shit as m0
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2025-04-15T18:13:26 < bitmask> heyyo
2025-04-15T18:13:33 < bitmask> what up boys
2025-04-15T18:13:39 < bitmask> and Steffanx 
2025-04-15T18:21:26 < nohit> m23 supports atomics
2025-04-15T18:23:58 < nohit> https://community.arm.com/arm-community-blogs/b/architectures-and-processors-blog/posts/five-key-features-of-the-arm-cortex-m23-processor
2025-04-15T18:38:36 < fentyl> hm, I wonder how I made transaction engine working on CM0+ without atomics
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2025-04-15T18:48:33 < nohit> im sure many people have used locks thinking they are using real atomic operations
2025-04-15T18:48:47 < nohit> but the hw needs to actually support it
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2025-04-15T19:03:15 < Steffanx> Yo mr rob235. Settled yet?
2025-04-15T19:07:57 < bitmask> somewhat, not really, no... haha I finally bought some shit storage to put my hoarding electronics shit in the closet, then we can finally get desks for the office. We are ordering a couch and picking up a tv this week
2025-04-15T19:08:20 < bitmask> I think I may get your desk
2025-04-15T19:10:19 < Steffanx> Ikea?
2025-04-15T19:10:53 < bitmask> we've been using an old 32" 720P LG tv for like 10 years. Never had the room to upgrade so I think we're going with the samsung 65" qn90d
2025-04-15T19:11:02 < bitmask> yea
2025-04-15T19:11:20 < bitmask> I dont need it to be able to go up and down at the press of a button but I like that yours is still adjustable
2025-04-15T19:11:32 < bitmask> and I saw it in person last weekend
2025-04-15T19:11:46 < bitmask> with the big top it looks good
2025-04-15T19:12:46 < qyx> ikea in trumpland? no tariffs?
2025-04-15T19:12:53 < qyx> or is bitmask moving to ikea-land?
2025-04-15T19:13:12 < bitmask> no im still in the good ole us of a
2025-04-15T19:14:10 < bitmask> i havent actually looked at how tariffs affect me personally. 
2025-04-15T19:14:37 < bitmask> this shit is nuts though
2025-04-15T19:14:47 < bitmask> hopefully it gets figured out
2025-04-15T19:16:43 < bitmask> id like to get an oled tv but i just dont think its worth it yet
2025-04-15T19:16:57 < bitmask> with brightness and short lifespan
2025-04-15T19:21:43 < bitmask> I wanted to set up hydroponics on my balcony but I don't think I have enough time to figure out what I need to do before I should have seeds going. Plus my balcony doesn't get any direct sunlight. Any of you gardeners?
2025-04-15T19:23:01 < bitmask> maybe I'll do something small indoors but I'm worried about bugs
2025-04-15T19:23:22 < bitmask> gosh its fun talking to myself :)
2025-04-15T19:23:46 < bitmask> guess its time to start organizing the office, the floor is just covered in my crap
2025-04-15T19:24:43 < Steffanx> Yeah qyx is the gardener you need bitmask 
2025-04-15T19:25:13 < bitmask> ::thumbsup::
2025-04-15T19:29:07 < Steffanx> And TVs are never worth it. I have one, but don't use it too often. You use it daily?
2025-04-15T19:29:32 < jbo> Steffanx
2025-04-15T19:29:55 < Steffanx> jbo
2025-04-15T19:33:01 < Steffanx> What can I do for you Mr jbo?
2025-04-15T19:41:41 < qyx> I am not hydroponer
2025-04-15T19:46:12 < jbo> hydroneer 60% off qyx 
2025-04-15T20:03:22 < bitmask> yes i use tv daily
2025-04-15T20:35:08 < qyx> tv?
2025-04-15T20:35:32 < qyx> is there any consumable content?
2025-04-15T20:46:17 < Steffanx> Fico, Trump et al make create content qyx 
2025-04-15T20:47:10 < Steffanx> jbo too, but only on the secret pages
2025-04-15T21:07:10 < bitmask> hmm to go to the gym now or later
2025-04-15T21:08:04 < bitmask> there aint enuf hours in a day
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2025-04-15T21:43:47 < bitmask> gym done, being so out of shape that you can only last like 15 min has its advantages
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2025-04-15T21:52:10 < Steffanx> Did you go to the gym by car bitmask ?
2025-04-15T21:52:25 < bitmask> no, i walked across the parking lot
2025-04-15T21:52:47 < bitmask> theres a small gym at my apartment complex
2025-04-15T21:53:04 < Steffanx> aha
2025-04-15T21:53:30 < bitmask> its not my fault its so close :) I still walked
2025-04-15T21:54:15 < bitmask> theres a pool too, im curious how many people use it
2025-04-15T22:01:57 < Steffanx> maybe it is your fault. You moved there :P
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2025-04-15T22:03:52 < bitmask> shush
2025-04-15T22:06:17 < bitmask> im too compulsive... my hands get really dry and peel if I wash my hands too much and some reddit post recommended a certain soap and it happens to be discontinued now, so I found a site that still has some and spent like $70 on hand soap....
2025-04-15T22:10:54 < Steffanx> And you dont know if it actually works or not?
2025-04-15T22:10:55 < specing> jfc
2025-04-15T22:11:24 < Steffanx> Welcome specing . How is your day today?
2025-04-15T22:11:30 < specing> busy Steffanx 
2025-04-15T22:11:41 < Steffanx> Good busy?
2025-04-15T22:12:46 < specing> all busy is good busy
2025-04-15T22:15:17 < Steffanx> Sometimes.
2025-04-15T22:19:16 < zyp> bitmask, if it makes you feel better, I think I spent over $100 last I bought soap
2025-04-15T22:19:46 < specing> bitmask: just buy some moisturising cream and apply it overnight?
2025-04-15T22:19:50 < specing> helps me a lot
2025-04-15T22:20:03 < specing> the tube is 2 eur and lasts 2-3 months
2025-04-15T22:20:07 < zyp> although I think I paid more for shipping than for the soap itself, and it took three months in shipping
2025-04-15T22:20:25 < Steffanx> Special baby soap?
2025-04-15T22:20:34 < zyp> no, hand soap
2025-04-15T22:22:05 < Steffanx> :)
2025-04-15T22:22:06 < zyp> https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01MFGU3ZP
2025-04-15T22:23:10 < jbo> Steffanx, is it time?
2025-04-15T22:23:45 < Steffanx> People says it's always time, but .. it's not good to eat pizza so close to bed time
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2025-04-15T23:26:48 < bitmask> $120 shipping
2025-04-15T23:27:28 < bitmask> does the soap jerk you off?
2025-04-15T23:27:46 < bitmask> oh 3 gallons
2025-04-15T23:29:58 < qyx> if you put 3 gallons of soap of any fidelity on your awesome hands, they would be dry and peel
2025-04-15T23:30:17 < qyx> I recommend you using nearly zero-hardness water, it works
2025-04-15T23:33:04 < bitmask> hmm
2025-04-15T23:35:29 < bitmask> maybe i'll buy water hardness test strips just to see what this water is like. I do have a reverse osmosis filter for drinking but using that to wash my hands would be tough
2025-04-15T23:36:36 < qyx> if I may recommend you, buy GH drop test (Ca+Mg), much easier and more accurate.
2025-04-15T23:37:08 < bitmask> k thx
2025-04-15T23:37:08 < qyx> is it called drop test in proper english? titration basically
2025-04-15T23:37:35 < qyx> you can get it very cheap in aquarium shops
2025-04-15T23:38:48 < qyx> like this https://www.jbl.de/en/products/detail/2435/jbl-gh-test?country=sk
2025-04-15T23:39:52 < jbo> bitmask, you have a reverse osmosis setup for drinking water in a rental apartment?
2025-04-15T23:40:18 < qyx> is that bad?
2025-04-15T23:40:44 < bitmask> its this guy: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGK4BQ2D
2025-04-15T23:41:03 < bitmask> i cant stand the tap water
2025-04-15T23:41:10 < bitmask> it tastes like chlorine
2025-04-15T23:41:57 < qyx> I hope it is also adding some minerals back in, you can't drink demi water
2025-04-15T23:42:12 < bitmask> yes you can
2025-04-15T23:42:23 < bitmask> you can get filters to add minerals back but i dont bother
2025-04-15T23:42:34 < jbo> bitmask, when I visited the US, the tap water was some of the worst shit I experienced
2025-04-15T23:42:58 < qyx> I didn't either but I kept my eye on combining with other sources rich in minerals
2025-04-15T23:43:02 < bitmask> it really depends on where you live but yea a lot of places suck
2025-04-15T23:43:37 < jbo> I already almost died the first time I tasted london water
2025-04-15T23:43:48 < bitmask> never been there
2025-04-15T23:44:27 < qyx> our water is like licking rusty soviet tanks
2025-04-15T23:45:05 < qyx> I would bet there is one under our house if the bore hole wasn't 70m deep
2025-04-15T23:46:21 < bitmask> the RO filter was a great purchase though. I got the smallest one because at the time I didnt have any room. I might upgrade to something bigger, either their bigger model which uses separate filters for each stage, or maybe get an under the sink unit
2025-04-15T23:47:14 < qyx> I have under the sink unit
2025-04-15T23:47:34 < qyx> it just has a standard 3/8" BSP input
2025-04-15T23:47:47 < bitmask> you have the tank with it?
2025-04-15T23:47:56 < qyx> yes but I don't use it
2025-04-15T23:48:35 < qyx> the main reason is it is unable to fill because of low input pressure (~3.5 bar)
2025-04-15T23:49:56 < bitmask> ahh
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2025-04-15T23:50:42 < qyx> so, soldering time
2025-04-15T23:50:52 < Steffanx> I feel sorry for you jbo...
2025-04-15T23:50:58 < Steffanx> That you had to go to the US
2025-04-15T23:52:01 < jbo> same
2025-04-15T23:52:18 < Steffanx> So far from the finishland
2025-04-15T23:52:27 < Steffanx> Finnish*
2025-04-15T23:53:30 < jbo> indeed, that was the 2nd worst thing
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2025-04-16T00:03:01 < bitmask> this one good? https://www.amazon.com/API-TEST-Freshwater-Aquarium-Water/dp/B003SNCHMA/132-8386713-2647112
2025-04-16T00:03:18 < bitmask> doesn't mention calcium or magnesium
2025-04-16T00:07:14 < bitmask> or is that what general hardness implies
2025-04-16T00:27:37 < qyx> yes
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2025-04-16T00:28:34 < qyx> pretty expensive, I am getting mine for 4€
2025-04-16T00:29:54 < qyx> oh this is both KH and GH
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2025-04-16T00:47:17 < fentyl> nohit: no, I mean that I'm aware of the fact that CM0+ does not have load/store conditional. I just don't remember how I worked around it. Or even if I did at all. Probably yes because CI build for RP2040 wouldn't build if I used LDREX/STREX there.
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2025-04-16T09:19:12 < nohit> fentyl: i wasnt referring to your case but people in general, me included
2025-04-16T09:21:38 < nohit> but unless you have worked on the asm level the compiler does the decision, it finds an alternative solution if the hw does not support it
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2025-04-16T09:24:36 < jpa-> trivial solution is just to disable interrupts
2025-04-16T09:24:59 < jpa-> (assuming single core, RP2040 is the only cortex-m0 multicore that i'm aware of and it then has the spinlocks)
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2025-04-16T09:53:01 < qyx> lpc4350 was m4+m0?
2025-04-16T10:03:06 < jpa-> yeah, and it seems to have some hardware IPC support (message passing and queues)
2025-04-16T10:03:32 < jpa-> which i guess makes more sense in asymmetric multicore
2025-04-16T10:35:19 < qyx> I have so much work I don't know what to start with
2025-04-16T10:35:24 < qyx> so I am doing nothing instead
2025-04-16T10:41:29 < qyx> jpa-: did you do some post-mortem on your GaN charger fail?
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2025-04-16T10:52:20 < fentyl> nohit: does it? __LDREX() and __STREX() are intrinsics that map directly to instructions
2025-04-16T10:56:06 < fentyl> jpa-: indeed that's what my kernel does for transactions
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2025-04-16T11:26:01 < jpa-> qyx: tried, but didn't figure it out
2025-04-16T11:26:28 < jpa-> qyx: i bet some of the problems were due to difficulties in soldering the dense double sided assembly board
2025-04-16T11:26:58 < jpa-> and probably i was overloading the gate driver LDO in the chip
2025-04-16T11:28:40 < qyx> with gans?
2025-04-16T11:28:53 < qyx> with like zero total gate charge?
2025-04-16T11:29:38 < qyx> I still haven't managed to finish my board but I'll give it a try with nexperia GAN3R2-100CBE
2025-04-16T11:30:51 < jpa-> they have a lot of static current draw on the gate
2025-04-16T11:31:00 < jpa-> even though the capacitance is lower than mosfets (not zero)
2025-04-16T12:12:11 < nohit> fentyl: that is essentially working in the asm level
2025-04-16T12:19:31 < nohit> so yes, if you're not working on that level (and i highly doubt that you did), the compiler makes the decision
2025-04-16T12:22:14 < fentyl> nohit: there's no decision for compiler, is there? if HW does not support LDREX, then __LDREX() calls simply won't compile
2025-04-16T12:22:57 < nohit> i mean using std::atomic 
2025-04-16T12:23:22 < nohit> or the C version of it
2025-04-16T12:24:52 < fentyl> no, I wasn't using neither atomic intrinsics nor C/C++ version of atomic
2025-04-16T12:25:23 < fentyl> this is a piece of RTOS kernel code and I didn't feel comfortable using them
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2025-04-16T15:00:25 < fenugrec> beware C11 atomics on M0 with gcc...
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2025-04-16T16:58:04 < PhantomWork> Question guys, I have an issue with my code, which cause the µC to reset somehow (which makes no sense to me but meh). At the start of main() I check for the reset sources. I get the reset pin flag and software reset flag. Then I issue a __HAL_RCC_CLEAR_RESET_FLAGS(); After that check there is a HAL_Delay(2000)    it get ignored!     I
2025-04-16T16:58:05 < PhantomWork> assume the reset flags also don't get cleared because there is no reason for the reset pin to be triggered. Anyone have an idea of what can cause the reset flags to not be cleared or be wrong and the hal_delay to not work?
2025-04-16T17:10:41 < PhantomWork> And, for printf, is there a list of the formats specific for stm32?
2025-04-16T17:35:16 < nohit> no but floats dont work unless some compiler flag, for some cores
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2025-04-16T17:36:42 < nohit> -u _printf_float
2025-04-16T17:36:59 < nohit> actually its linker flag
2025-04-16T17:37:29 < nohit> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28334435/stm32-printf-float-variable
2025-04-16T17:38:35 < PhantomWork> I don't use float
2025-04-16T17:56:20 < nohit> well other than that it should work as expected
2025-04-16T17:56:43 < nohit> the c library isnt written for stm32s so there are no stm32 spesific things
2025-04-16T17:57:28 < PhantomWork> do you have some tricks to debug hard reset? I'm quite at lost right now on what happen... it makes no sense to me.
2025-04-16T17:58:53 < zyp> what's a hard reset?
2025-04-16T17:58:57 < fentyl> step over the code to identify where it comes from
2025-04-16T17:59:49 < nohit> have you checked this ? https://interrupt.memfault.com/blog/cortex-m-hardfault-debug
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2025-04-16T18:18:58 < PhantomWork> nohit: thanks, looking
2025-04-16T18:20:50 < qyx> router mumples something about protocols from the past
2025-04-16T18:20:54 < qyx> b
2025-04-16T18:27:39 < PhantomWork> the router shouln't be working, it's an old cisco ea6500   ... 2012...
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2025-04-16T20:22:54 < PhantomWork> Does anyone have a known to work great circular buffer for uart that is interrupt based? The one I use... I think it might be what cause me some headaches...
2025-04-16T20:27:34 < specing> I have one but it's in Ada
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2025-04-16T20:33:49 < PhantomWork> . . .   found the issue, which mean I have a bug in the other software that somehow didn't triggered the bug..
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2025-04-16T20:34:41 < PhantomWork>             uartDebugTxTail = (uartDebugTxTail + 1) % 256;  <=== that... should be 1024, or better: sizeof(uartDebugTxBuf)         grrr
2025-04-16T20:40:29 < specing> 1024 sounds like a very big buffer
2025-04-16T20:40:54 < specing> printing a lot?
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2025-04-16T20:47:27 < PhantomWork> yes, a big dump of data
2025-04-16T20:48:02 < PhantomWork> basically a 40x15 screen
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2025-04-16T20:49:13 < PhantomWork> while 1024 is a bit big, I have more ram than needed, so I can waste some. But 256 wasn't enough
2025-04-16T20:49:51 < PhantomWork> what do you use for serial terminal? Putty seems to add buffering, that or the CH340 do weird buffering
2025-04-16T20:50:03 < specing> GNU screen
2025-04-16T20:50:11 < PhantomWork> on windows?
2025-04-16T20:50:18 < specing> I don't use windows
2025-04-16T21:05:58 < nohit> ss.exe
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2025-04-16T21:09:15 < nohit> PhantomWork: ive been using this for few years on windows https://github.com/fasteddy516/SimplySerial
2025-04-16T21:11:54 < PhantomWork> thanks will check
2025-04-16T21:12:19 < PhantomWork> ... and I can't wait for this damn router to be trashed...
2025-04-16T21:13:05 < qyx> yes by default things tend to buffer
2025-04-16T21:13:25 < qyx> don't you send \n at the end of lines?
2025-04-16T21:13:38 < PhantomWork> now I need to figure out why I have data loss on IRDA and ORE error
2025-04-16T21:13:44 < qyx> or \r\n or whatever is the proper one for serial terminal
2025-04-16T21:14:01 < PhantomWork> qyx: actually \r\n
2025-04-16T21:14:04 < qyx> you are not processing fast enough
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2025-04-17T01:17:18 < fenugrec> realterm on win*
2025-04-17T01:17:42 < fenugrec> oh he's gone. Never found something as nice as realterm for linux; 'cutecom' is tolerable
2025-04-17T01:33:17 < qyx> what the hell is nice on realterm
2025-04-17T01:33:57 < qyx> also it is delphi from 2003
2025-04-17T01:34:19 < qyx> that's about the time I stopped using it and move to lunex in 2004
2025-04-17T01:36:36 < zyp> idk about windows, but on linux and macos, tio is the shit
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2025-04-17T01:38:37 < qyx> zyp: that looks great, installing
2025-04-17T01:39:11 < zyp> seems to have windows support too, but idk how suitable it'd be :)
2025-04-17T01:39:43 < qyx> let's see how it supports ansi escapes
2025-04-17T01:42:21 < qyx> works
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2025-04-17T03:14:50 < fenugrec> qyx it works predictably, good low level options, etc. Haven't used it since I left Win* but it was pretty solid
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2025-04-17T10:17:59 < c10ud_> is it possible to use a monospaced font in kicads pcbs?
2025-04-17T10:18:20 < c10ud_> cant find a way to do it and it's veeery annoying lol
2025-04-17T10:36:47 < qyx> when you place a text, select your desired font?
2025-04-17T10:37:54 < qyx> it is true I can't see the setting applicable to refs/values
2025-04-17T10:39:22 < qyx> maybe ask in #kicad
2025-04-17T10:40:26 < c10ud_> yes, except the list is missing monospaced fonts as far as i see..
2025-04-17T10:40:54 < c10ud_> refs/values i dont really care, i have two P/Ns i want to write and they dont align
2025-04-17T10:40:59 < c10ud_> mildly annoying stuff
2025-04-17T10:43:13 < c10ud_> maybe they're not called 'monospace' in windows, lets see
2025-04-17T10:44:23 < c10ud_> t'was it lol...m$ only gives you lucida sans typewriter and courier new
2025-04-17T10:44:29 < c10ud_> wow
2025-04-17T10:51:08 < srk> haha, don't m$
2025-04-17T10:51:17  * srk likes your OCD
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2025-04-17T11:53:53 < c10ud_> yea, probably we'll all go back to *buntu in a few yrs, when microsoft online account will be mandatory and copilot screenshots your whole day
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2025-04-17T12:51:26 < specing> you wont, microsoft will boil you slowly
2025-04-17T12:52:58 < specing> I bailed in XP times and heard a lot of people threatening to ditch windows after that.. can't say many did
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2025-04-17T12:56:14 < tomeaton17> Personally I cannot wait for them to end support to Outlook (classic), I really like how there are 2 programs with the same name
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2025-04-17T13:15:35 < Steffanx> Have them keep classic and kill new
2025-04-17T13:17:33 < Steffanx> My DIY work outlook plugin won't work in the new outlook. And last time I looked the new outlook doesn't have the API calls to do the same (yet)
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2025-04-17T14:01:59 < tomeaton17> Steffanx unfortunately Microsoft won't be able to justify all of their SW devs without pointless changes. Classic much better
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2025-04-18T00:13:58 < bitmask> damn, my balcony does get direct sunlight, wish I didn't give up on a garden
2025-04-18T00:14:16 < bitmask> maybe i'll just grab a few pots and plant in soil
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2025-04-18T02:01:27  * qyx upgrades some odroid
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2025-04-18T02:43:16 < ds2> Solar powered balcony
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2025-04-18T03:24:50 < Phantom> hi there, weird question... So I have this program that transmit lots of data on uart1 and irda3. IRDA3 work fine bidirectionally with interrupts. uart1 work fine in interrupt tx, but as soon as I enable rx interrupt... it appears like the microcontroller just freeze. And it do not even receive data!  anyone have an idea?
2025-04-18T03:26:28 < jbo> Phantom, "appears to freeze" --> what does your debugger say/show when you break/halt?
2025-04-18T03:27:16 < Phantom> I fail (suck hard) at using the debugger, specially when it have interrupts... so.. really, no idea.
2025-04-18T03:27:43 < qyx> Phantom: you  mentioned having ORE flag set?
2025-04-18T03:28:11 < Phantom> ORE was for IRDA, that is hopefully taken care of
2025-04-18T03:28:12 < qyx> ORF that is
2025-04-18T03:28:39 < Phantom> that was causing a no rx, not a freeze
2025-04-18T03:28:45 < jbo> Phantom, so this is a good opportunity to improve your skill :)
2025-04-18T03:29:09 < qyx> keep in mind enabling RXNE interrupt for an UART enables woth RX and OR interrupts
2025-04-18T03:29:10 < jbo> just attach GDB or whatever you're using and let it run. then pause at some point when it "froze"
2025-04-18T03:29:22 < qyx> so in the interrupt handler you have to check AND CLEAR both of them
2025-04-18T03:29:29 < qyx> otherwise you will become stuck in the isr
2025-04-18T03:30:10 < qyx> although idk what mcu do you have, it is definitely true for the newer ones
2025-04-18T03:30:46 < Phantom> qyx: thing is, the uart1 rx... there is nothing connected to the pin, only the internal pullup. So it shouln't even fire or do anything...
2025-04-18T03:32:11 < qyx> you are not gonna solve it unless you check with the debugger what happened
2025-04-18T03:32:18 < jbo> yep
2025-04-18T03:32:53 < qyx> you may as well be using a wrong function name causing your isr to go into the weak default (while 1 loop most probably or so)
2025-04-18T03:32:55 < Phantom> yeah... and I couln't find a good simple guide that isn't outdated...
2025-04-18T03:33:27 < Phantom> my main while loop is... empty (actually now it have __wfi() )
2025-04-18T03:34:16 < jbo> what does your environment look like? what tools are you using?
2025-04-18T03:39:19 < Phantom> stm32cubeide
2025-04-18T04:29:52 < fenugrec> hello stm32, I have a weird iwdg issue on F070. Normally I reflash with dfu-util, and it auto-reboots into user firmware, which it does, but then I hang waiting for 'IWDG_SR & IWDG_SR_RVU'
2025-04-18T04:31:17 < fenugrec> RVU bit should be cleared by hardware in "(takes up to five RC 40 kHz cycles)"
2025-04-18T04:33:42 < fenugrec> oops, bad paste, meant IWDT_SR_PVU
2025-04-18T04:33:59 < fenugrec> but same observation
2025-04-18T04:45:02 < fenugrec> Ah, I think libopencm3 is not doing the right thing here https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/blob/master/lib/stm32/common/iwdg_common_all.c#L105 , should probably write Unlock before polling flag
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2025-04-18T05:31:16 < fenugrec> quack, quack. https://github.com/libopencm3/libopencm3/pull/1580
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2025-04-18T07:50:02 < ds2> if you must do without a debugger, there is always leaving values stashed in areas of SRAM from the ISR then check it after a reset
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2025-04-18T09:43:17 < benishor> or perhaps print on a serial?
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2025-04-18T10:55:14 < fentyl> that's slow
2025-04-18T11:09:46 < benishor> not if you do it once in a whil
2025-04-18T11:09:47 < benishor> e
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2025-04-18T18:39:28 < bitmask> why is my diastolic bp so low...
2025-04-18T18:40:42 < benishor> incoming heart attack?
2025-04-18T18:40:50 < benishor> define low
2025-04-18T18:40:54 < bitmask> 40
2025-04-18T18:40:57 < benishor> oh shit
2025-04-18T18:41:03 < benishor> perhaps go see a doctor?
2025-04-18T18:41:05 < bitmask> its always low
2025-04-18T18:41:22 < bitmask> the problem is my systolic is usually high
2025-04-18T18:42:04 < benishor> what made you measure it now?
2025-04-18T18:42:08 < bitmask> but i started exercising and hopefully I can lower or stop my high bp meds
2025-04-18T18:42:36 < bitmask> I've been real tired the last few days
2025-04-18T18:45:59 < bitmask> I don't get dizzy when standing so I'm sure its fine'ish :)
2025-04-18T18:47:22 < benishor> incoming holidays with food and booze overload :D
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2025-04-18T18:53:02 < bitmask> I don't drink (anymore) luckily, and I have Crohn's so food isn't my best friend. I have been very unhealthy for the past 15 years and I'm just starting to turn it around. Doing cardio 4-5 days a week and trying to eat better. I'm doing some reading and older people can have higher systolic and lower diastolic from hardened arteries. so hopefully a year or two of exercising should bring me back to normal :P
2025-04-18T18:56:15 < bitmask> being 40 with the arteries of a 70 year old isn't great :/ but my stomach used to hurt pretty much every day and I never really got out of bed. Now I have more good days than bad
2025-04-18T19:04:02 < qyx> get some children and you will easily have 300/200 mmHg
2025-04-18T19:04:30 < bitmask> haha no thanks
2025-04-18T19:05:30 < bitmask> my systolic used to be 140-160, with meds and now exercising its down to 115
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2025-04-18T20:27:31 < Phantom> jbo/qyx: found the stupid freeze issue. A single line of code that behave in unexpected way once you enable uart rx IT... a "while uart not ready" loop... when you enable rx IT, it is not ready anymore, it is busy waiting for rx data... ... ...
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2025-04-18T21:18:21 < Steffanx> Don't die bitmask 
2025-04-18T21:28:30 < qyx> hm any local sources for coax cable assemblies?
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2025-04-18T22:27:43 < bitmask> i'll try not to
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2025-04-18T22:49:17 < zyp> qyx, you can probably find a ton of 75ohm coax cable assemblies locally, but 50ohm will be less common
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2025-04-18T22:57:51 < ds2> look for old network wiring?
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2025-04-19T02:04:50 < qyx> zyp: I mean like made to spec
2025-04-19T02:04:53 < qyx> ds2: ^
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2025-04-19T02:05:10 < qyx> and local I mean in this part of the world
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