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2025-06-01T22:03:52 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-01T23:39:06 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.42.38] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Mon Jun 02 2025 2025-06-02T00:06:48 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-02T01:11:11 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T01:12:12 -!- nomorekaki [~nomorekak@37-33-57-120.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T01:12:33 < nomorekaki> night crew hello 2025-06-02T01:24:33 < jbo> hello o/ 2025-06-02T01:24:37 * jbo reports for duty 2025-06-02T01:24:56 < nomorekaki> good job jbo 2025-06-02T01:25:15 < nomorekaki> have you been innovating? 2025-06-02T01:25:40 < tpbsd> jbo, this is my latest Forth dev system for STM32: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mecrisp-stellaris-folkdoc/files/plang2-lmt01-4.png/download 2025-06-02T01:26:09 < jbo> nomorekaki, not as much as I should have 2025-06-02T01:26:24 * nomorekaki *nods* 2025-06-02T01:26:37 < jbo> tpbsd, currently disappointing people: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=287204 2025-06-02T01:26:37 < tpbsd> the middle left window is the programmers source, the top right is the actual source after transforms that uploaded to the Forth mcu 2025-06-02T01:27:23 < tpbsd> the right window is the SWD Forth interactive real time user terminal to the target 2025-06-02T01:27:52 < tpbsd> and the bottom window is a Quickfix window for fast navigation around the project 2025-06-02T01:28:22 < jbo> I'm sorry, I am not bald enough to know anything about forth :p 2025-06-02T01:29:34 < tpbsd> thats cool, it's only used by 42 people in the world, the whole point of my pic is the cool IDE :) 2025-06-02T01:30:52 < nomorekaki> why you use such obscure thing? 2025-06-02T01:32:53 < tpbsd> same reason people use micropython of course, but Forth is 30x faster than that 2025-06-02T01:33:26 < tpbsd> and it fits in 20KB of flash, unlike Micropython which needs about 300KB flash 2025-06-02T01:34:55 < jbo> 300kb what 2025-06-02T01:35:37 < tpbsd> jbo, whats the minimum inage size for MicroPython on stm32 ? 2025-06-02T01:36:20 < jbo> no idea 2025-06-02T01:36:23 < jbo> I don't python on stm32 2025-06-02T01:36:29 < tpbsd> Ive tested all the alternatives, uLisp, eLua, CircuitPython ... they all need around 300KB of flash for their image 2025-06-02T01:52:14 < nomorekaki> write in C 2025-06-02T01:53:17 < tpbsd> why would I want to do that ? 2025-06-02T01:53:25 < nomorekaki> if you are running interpreter it doesnt matter how much resources is it requires 2025-06-02T01:54:04 < nomorekaki> at least in terms of speed 2025-06-02T01:54:31 < nomorekaki> flash amount 20K vs 300K definitely narrows options 2025-06-02T01:55:06 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@27.177.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T01:55:07 < Laurenceb_> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1ld7ppre9vo 2025-06-02T01:55:10 < Laurenceb_> >ardupilot 2025-06-02T01:55:15 < nomorekaki> lurencer 2025-06-02T01:55:24 < Laurenceb_> I fully expect a pro strike back using pixhawk 2025-06-02T01:55:47 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.14.181] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2025-06-02T01:56:45 < Laurenceb_> >most devistating attack by far used tarduinos 2025-06-02T01:56:55 < Laurenceb_> the absolute state of cruise missiles 2025-06-02T01:57:57 < nomorekaki> how is hypertrain? 2025-06-02T01:58:16 < nomorekaki> still steel conduits melting from currents? 2025-06-02T01:58:19 < Laurenceb_> there is a relaunch meeting next week with new management 2025-06-02T01:58:22 < Laurenceb_> heh no 2025-06-02T01:58:33 < Laurenceb_> previous managers are now all sacked 2025-06-02T01:58:39 < nomorekaki> too woke? 2025-06-02T01:58:48 < Laurenceb_> lolno 2025-06-02T01:59:23 < Laurenceb_> they were stealing money / not following health and safety law / paying junior staff to harrass the board on facebook 2025-06-02T01:59:48 < nomorekaki> stealing moneys 2025-06-02T01:59:49 < nomorekaki> how? 2025-06-02T02:00:25 < Laurenceb_> hiring "consultants" who hten paid them a portion of the wage back 2025-06-02T02:00:38 < nomorekaki> oh that's how consulting works 2025-06-02T02:01:41 < nomorekaki> how about H&S? accidents? 2025-06-02T02:02:59 < Laurenceb_> nothing serious, but no risk assesments and some dangerous kit 2025-06-02T02:04:46 < nomorekaki> how many hyperbosses went down? 2025-06-02T02:05:06 < nomorekaki> how big is the total hypercrew? 2025-06-02T02:05:43 < Laurenceb_> 4 bosses, there are about 30 staff total 2025-06-02T02:06:13 < nomorekaki> 30 staff designs the whole train? 2025-06-02T02:06:24 < nomorekaki> drives + shell? 2025-06-02T02:06:29 < nomorekaki> cars* 2025-06-02T02:06:37 < Laurenceb_> nah, they do all sorts of stuff, atm we do CCTV repairs 2025-06-02T02:07:03 < nomorekaki> did it use standard track? 2025-06-02T02:07:10 < Laurenceb_> we don't design any serious body shell etc for prototype stuff 2025-06-02T02:07:12 < Laurenceb_> yes 2025-06-02T02:08:15 < nomorekaki> tell me again how is the energy for propulsion transported to the train? 2025-06-02T02:08:45 < Laurenceb_> it comes from the rails - they are at high voltage DC 2025-06-02T02:09:07 < nomorekaki> ye I remember correctly 2025-06-02T02:09:36 < nomorekaki> that's not very standard feature of standard track 2025-06-02T02:10:26 < nomorekaki> how much current total for a whole train from track? 2025-06-02T02:10:41 < nomorekaki> I wonder if magnetic fields become significant 2025-06-02T02:11:31 < nomorekaki> from rail using brushes or wheels? 2025-06-02T02:12:39 < nomorekaki> what I know is round wheels are not ideal for electric currents 2025-06-02T02:13:08 < nomorekaki> at least if current goes through ball bearing it causes micropitting or something to the balls 2025-06-02T02:13:23 < Laurenceb_> oh yeah it has to use brushes 2025-06-02T02:13:52 < Laurenceb_> atm I'm working on traction control 2025-06-02T02:14:04 < Laurenceb_> tempted to try a beaglebone black 2025-06-02T02:14:13 < nomorekaki> you were doing fancy math last time 2025-06-02T02:14:33 < Laurenceb_> it has native can and ethernet 2025-06-02T02:14:46 < Laurenceb_> yeah, optimal / model predictive controler 2025-06-02T02:15:01 < nomorekaki> any timeline predictions? 2025-06-02T02:15:13 < Laurenceb_> but it only needs to run at 200Hz so it can run on embedded linux 2025-06-02T02:15:20 < Laurenceb_> what do you mean? 2025-06-02T02:15:48 < nomorekaki> when you ride a full proto 2025-06-02T02:16:11 < Laurenceb_> ah we have an old london underground train we fitted traction control to 2025-06-02T02:16:36 < nomorekaki> but does it have your drives? 2025-06-02T02:16:37 < Laurenceb_> so it can be tested at low speed, aim is then to sell the low speed version to conventional train operators 2025-06-02T02:16:39 < Laurenceb_> yes 2025-06-02T02:16:56 < nomorekaki> what is the benefit they are buying? 2025-06-02T02:17:01 < Laurenceb_> currently t uses lidar + simulink tho 2025-06-02T02:17:21 < Laurenceb_> better track alignment of the wheels so less wheel wear and noise 2025-06-02T02:17:40 < nomorekaki> conventional trains are working pretty well without any electronics 2025-06-02T02:17:54 < nomorekaki> at least slow ones 2025-06-02T02:17:55 < Laurenceb_> not really 2025-06-02T02:18:08 < Laurenceb_> they screech and grind on every tight corner 2025-06-02T02:19:04 < nomorekaki> can screech and grind be calculated into some number of moneys? 2025-06-02T02:19:33 < nomorekaki> wheels are ofc money and track too 2025-06-02T02:20:40 < nomorekaki> can the traction control make train ride well / better on worn rails? 2025-06-02T02:20:51 < Laurenceb_> yeah it makes a big difference 2025-06-02T02:20:54 < nomorekaki> or worn rails + wheels 2025-06-02T02:21:26 < Laurenceb_> probably, but that makes it harder 2025-06-02T02:21:54 < Laurenceb_> I'm trying to do sensorless brushless motor and sensorless traction control using the sensorless motor control 2025-06-02T02:22:00 < Laurenceb_> its pretty tricky 2025-06-02T02:22:34 < Laurenceb_> right, sleepy tiem 2025-06-02T02:22:38 < Laurenceb_> cya 2025-06-02T02:22:48 < nomorekaki> ok 2025-06-02T02:22:51 -!- Laurenceb_ [~Laurenceb@27.177.208.46.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 2025-06-02T02:22:59 < nomorekaki> bye then 2025-06-02T02:37:16 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@146.70.185.23] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T02:42:37 < nomorekaki> how to measure torque omiting any bearing parasitics? 2025-06-02T02:43:26 < nomorekaki> I bet there is a way that doesn't require straing gauge in axle 2025-06-02T02:46:15 < nomorekaki> okay googles AI said you have to basically characterize the parasitics and math it out from results 2025-06-02T02:54:07 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T03:01:26 -!- thelounge9543 [~thelounge@154.61.59.120] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T03:01:42 -!- thelounge9543 [~thelounge@154.61.59.120] has left ##stm32 [] 2025-06-02T03:27:45 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 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-!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-02T09:35:01 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-02T09:36:28 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T10:40:54 -!- rkta [~rkta@user/rkta] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T11:21:33 < tomeaton17> hello 2025-06-02T11:22:33 < tomeaton17> Anyone seen the pictures of the russian missile teardowns 2025-06-02T11:23:51 < machinehum> no 2025-06-02T11:24:00 < machinehum> Why is there an Arduino uno in there? 2025-06-02T11:24:45 < tomeaton17> They are also stm32 enjoyers 2025-06-02T11:25:37 < tomeaton17> packed with traco power supplies as well 2025-06-02T11:25:42 < tomeaton17> load of zynqs 2025-06-02T11:25:58 < tomeaton17> https://x.com/FPGAX_ no idea of the veracity of the images but checks out from previous experience 2025-06-02T11:28:33 < qyx> ti.com dsp, what an irony 2025-06-02T11:29:25 < qyx> it just confirms their economy and military is western based and we allowed that 2025-06-02T11:30:42 < tomeaton17> yeah they just don't have the silicon fab technology 2025-06-02T11:31:06 < tomeaton17> suprised they are using traco's though surely thats something they could do themselves 2025-06-02T11:31:40 < tomeaton17> must have been fun getting the vivado toolchain going 2025-06-02T11:33:21 < qyx> that turkish thing looks much like an arduino 2025-06-02T11:33:45 < qyx> even with a bodge wire 2025-06-02T11:38:15 < qyx> this looks like the ublox's new gnss ant https://x.com/FPGAX_/status/1919652897542865113/photo/4 2025-06-02T11:38:28 < qyx> with 4-point feed in a plastic enclosure 2025-06-02T11:39:02 < qyx> https://www.u-blox.com/en/product/ann-mb1-antenna 2025-06-02T11:41:38 < machinehum> How does an "anti jamming" module work? 2025-06-02T11:41:47 < machinehum> I understand the words 2025-06-02T11:42:27 < qyx> same here 2025-06-02T11:45:41 < tomeaton17> maybe some dsp filter thing 2025-06-02T11:50:57 < tomeaton17> they really don't like connectors do they 2025-06-02T12:02:02 < jpa-> considering it has multiple antennas, it could be some kind of beamforming that filters out signals that do not come from the expected direction of the satellite 2025-06-02T12:13:04 < qyx> yeah but at -140 dBm I expect it to be quite hard to filter out unwanted signals even if they are groing from the back 2025-06-02T12:13:18 -!- martinmoene__ [~martinmoe@132.229.46.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-02T12:21:31 -!- martinmoene [~martinmoe@132.229.46.129] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T12:30:44 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T12:35:18 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-02T12:44:00 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-02T13:08:02 < qyx> so $customer is using these https://apwcompany.com/eml32mm-12/ 2025-06-02T13:09:33 < qyx> thank you, I just found the answer 2025-06-02T13:17:01 < machinehum> Intresting 2025-06-02T13:28:30 < srk> qyx: did you get a reply on your imx boards quote? I like their so-dimm style modules 2025-06-02T13:31:45 < qyx> srk: nope, I'll poke them with a reminder 2025-06-02T13:38:48 < qyx> compulab has similar too 2025-06-02T13:42:19 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T13:54:38 < zyp> srk, who? 2025-06-02T14:07:21 < qyx> srk: compulab has a table for this SoM https://www.compulab.com/products/computer-on-modules/mcm-imx8m-mini-nxp-i-mx-8m-mini-solder-down-som-system-on-module/#ordering 2025-06-02T14:17:56 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T14:29:54 < machinehum> qyx: What you building? 2025-06-02T14:32:16 < qyx> a DAQ controlle 2025-06-02T14:32:17 < qyx> r 2025-06-02T14:33:34 < machinehum> Nice 2025-06-02T14:50:30 -!- lordevron [~lordevron@user/lordevron] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T14:55:47 < lordevron> Hi guys i have a question not strictly related to stm32, but you probably know the answer anyway :) ..  i need to dump (and reflash) a firmware from a EFR32MG1 (cortex m4) mcu using SWD interface..but i do not have a j-link adapter nor a dev board for that chip.. or a stlink nucleo board with blackmagic fw on it as debugger? or a rpi pico? 2025-06-02T14:57:23 < tpbsd> lordevron, do you have a bluepill board ? 2025-06-02T14:58:33 < lordevron> i dont think so.. 2025-06-02T14:59:33 < tpbsd> lordevron, do you have anything ;-) ? 2025-06-02T15:01:04 < lordevron> i have rpi pico... and i am pretty sure that in the basement i have several st nucleo boards (cortex m4 based ).. 2025-06-02T15:01:31 < tpbsd> any nucleo will do 2025-06-02T15:02:00 < tpbsd> their on board usb/stlink can be used externally 2025-06-02T15:02:06 < lordevron> ok so should i flash the backmagic firmware on it? 2025-06-02T15:02:13 < tpbsd> no need 2025-06-02T15:02:28 < tpbsd> the nucleo stlink is self contained 2025-06-02T15:02:51 < tpbsd> it will flash ant stm32 chip just fine 2025-06-02T15:02:54 < tpbsd> any 2025-06-02T15:03:13 < tpbsd> you just need stlink on the pc or openocd or whatever 2025-06-02T15:03:49 < lordevron> but the one i want to flash is not from ST...  is the EFR32MG1 2025-06-02T15:05:08 < tpbsd> oh!! oops sorry I missed that 2025-06-02T15:05:13 < tpbsd> my bad 2025-06-02T15:06:24 < lordevron> np :) so that is why i was asking the blackmagic firmware 2025-06-02T15:12:05 < qyx> lordevron: is EFR32MG1 a STM32? 2025-06-02T15:12:32 < qyx> oh not related to stm32 2025-06-02T15:13:08 < qyx> you can use any stlink v2.x for that 2025-06-02T15:13:27 < qyx> you don't need blackmagic fw nor jlink if you already have older nucleos 2025-06-02T15:14:24 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-02T15:14:28 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.42.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-02T15:14:56 < qyx> newer v3.x stlinks are limited to stm32 2025-06-02T15:18:35 < infisc> because they check to see if the target is an STM32 and refuse to work if it isn't, or because they've extended the protocol in some way that makes it incompatible with generic ARM? 2025-06-02T15:35:18 -!- lordevron [~lordevron@user/lordevron] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 2025-06-02T15:37:23 < krish2487> lordevron: https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberrypipico/comments/12r2yqj/black_magic_probe_firmware_compatible_with_pi_pico/ 2025-06-02T15:37:40 -!- lordevron [~lordevron@195.159.233.66] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T15:38:01 < krish2487> It looks like the picoprobe firmware can be used to debug other targets.. However, I havent tested it myself.. so take it with a pinch of salt.. 2025-06-02T15:38:03 < krish2487> :-) 2025-06-02T15:49:52 < qyx> infisc: because of some "bug" they are refusing to fix long term 2025-06-02T15:50:05 < qyx> read "refuse" 2025-06-02T15:50:24 < qyx> iirc that was roughly the story behind it 2025-06-02T15:50:53 < qyx> but v2.x definitely work for non-STM targets, I did microchips with it 2025-06-02T15:53:37 -!- mercenary [~mercenary@user/mercenary] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T16:06:02 < tomeaton17> picked up some pomona probes. lovely and sharp 2025-06-02T16:19:27 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-02T16:39:24 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-02T16:39:32 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-02T16:39:53 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the 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accurate RTC is possible 2025-06-03T08:45:32 < tpbsd> otherwise it's pretty good, ADC and DAC and a comparator 2025-06-03T08:46:24 < tpbsd> and the usual 8 timers/counters 2025-06-03T08:47:16 < tpbsd> 32 peripherals in all 2025-06-03T08:48:50 < tpbsd> and I havent mastered the LP modes yet. only been trying for several years ;-) 2025-06-03T08:57:27 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-03T08:59:32 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-03T09:11:37 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-03T09:16:07 -!- noarb [~noarb@user/noarb] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1+deb2+b3 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-03T09:16:18 < ventyl> 32-bit replacement for AVR 2025-06-03T09:20:09 < tpbsd> the F051 is far too advanced for a AVR replacement ;-) 2025-06-03T09:20:36 -!- noarb [~noarb@user/noarb] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-03T09:21:34 < qyx> it is, it is probably the second most basic stm32 among the olders 2025-06-03T09:21:39 < qyx> before C0, G0 came 2025-06-03T09:23:08 < tpbsd> thats right. but it's still far too advanced for a AVR replacement ;-) 2025-06-03T09:23:47 < tpbsd> F051 was introduced in 2011 I think 2025-06-03T09:26:47 < qyx> in 2011 I was starting with stm32 and 80% only F1 and F2 were available 2025-06-03T09:26:55 < qyx> but I may be wrong 2025-06-03T09:27:02 < qyx> F0 came at later stages, even after F4 2025-06-03T09:27:38 < tpbsd> true, but F1xx was released in 2004 2025-06-03T09:28:07 < qyx> no, it was not available when I was at uni 2025-06-03T09:28:14 < qyx> hm wiki says 2007 2025-06-03T09:28:23 < qyx> I though around 2010, but 2007 is probably right 2025-06-03T09:28:24 < tpbsd> the old STM32F103 has been around a long time now 2025-06-03T09:28:43 < tpbsd> oh, I must have misremembered 2025-06-03T09:29:04 < tpbsd> I started using it in 2014 2025-06-03T09:30:04 < qyx> the last AVR proj I did used atmega128 2025-06-03T09:30:10 < tpbsd> without doubt the STM32G051 is heaps better, but I have lots of the F051 and Im retired now, so I dont need the latest as Im only a hobbyist 2025-06-03T09:30:20 < qyx> then I jumped to arm7tdmi 2025-06-03T09:30:32 < qyx> and then stm32f1 2025-06-03T09:30:51 < qyx> hm, what was it, sam7s256 maybe 2025-06-03T09:30:54 < tpbsd> the F1 is still a darn fast m3 2025-06-03T09:31:23 < tpbsd> there are probably hundreds of billions of them in the world 2025-06-03T09:32:52 < tpbsd> I wrote this for the F103 a few years ago https://mecrisp-stellaris-folkdoc.sourceforge.io/bluepill-diags-v1.640.html 2025-06-03T09:33:12 < tpbsd> Ive had way over 10 thousand downloads since 2025-06-03T09:34:52 < tpbsd> oddly Ive never used it myself in any projects as I hate the GPIO system it uses and way prefer the F051 as it has standard STM32F gpio 2025-06-03T09:38:11 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-03T09:39:13 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 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Is there a way to know by code which item in the array is a particular channel? ex, systemp = DMA[adc_systemp] instead of going blindly to DMA[3] Same with the others like ADC_IN3 or the like 2025-06-03T18:36:59 -!- fenugrec [~f@192.214.232.39] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-03T19:00:33 < nohit> you set the order of ADC channels with Rank of ADC_ChannelConfTypeDef and they will be in that order in the memory 2025-06-03T19:02:14 < nohit> you can create an enum that represent the channels and use that 2025-06-03T19:06:15 < nohit> i would refactor that name DMA to adc_data or similar 2025-06-03T19:29:11 < PhantomWork> nohit: but no way to set it "by pin"? so if I add a channel I don't have to edit the code? 2025-06-03T19:29:33 -!- fenugrec [~f@192.214.232.39] has left ##stm32 [] 2025-06-03T19:58:28 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-03T20:39:16 -!- qyx [~qyx@84.245.120.32] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-03T20:41:14 -!- qyx 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I have no logging from the _main_ task in my esp-idf, but works form every other task. 2025-06-04T14:40:00 < karlp> the fuck. 2025-06-04T14:57:01 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T15:18:10 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-04T15:19:15 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T16:12:07 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T16:19:04 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2025-06-04T16:47:49 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-04T17:19:04 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-04T17:37:52 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T17:42:26 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-04T18:19:14 < karlp> so my apptrace config worked in v5.3.2, but somehow not for the main task in 5.4.1. 2025-06-04T18:19:20 < karlp> I have no idea what changed, or how. 2025-06-04T18:55:10 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T18:55:16 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-04T18:56:07 < karlp> fucking found it. 2025-06-04T18:56:17 < karlp> a fix at least. no fucking clue where it changed in the IDF. 2025-06-04T18:56:58 < karlp> somethhing in ordering of newlib GLOBAL_REENT shit gone wild. 2025-06-04T20:26:22 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T21:05:02 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2025-06-04T22:31:13 -!- PhantomWork [~PhantomWo@user/phantom] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-04T22:48:52 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.7.199] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T22:56:52 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T23:19:33 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-04T23:20:53 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T23:20:53 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Client Quit] 2025-06-04T23:21:06 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-04T23:31:17 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] --- Day changed Thu Jun 05 2025 2025-06-05T00:04:40 -!- haritz [~hrtz@152.37.64.162] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T00:04:40 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has changed host 2025-06-05T00:17:11 < qyx> zyp: just reading about rekkevideangst 2025-06-05T00:17:22 < zyp> :) 2025-06-05T00:17:49 < zyp> that was word of the year or something at some point last decade? 2025-06-05T00:19:27 < zyp> hmm, no, it took the second place in 2013 2025-06-05T00:19:39 < qyx> idk, apparently you just reached car sales being 97% electric 2025-06-05T00:20:36 < zyp> probably; I haven't followed the statistics, but based on what I see every day I can believe it 2025-06-05T00:20:54 < specing> Norway? 2025-06-05T00:20:57 < zyp> yes 2025-06-05T00:22:04 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@p4fca2ec9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T00:22:04 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@user/rpifan] has changed host 2025-06-05T00:23:50 < zyp> I don't think I've had «rekkeviddeangst» since 2018 or so 2025-06-05T00:25:41 < zyp> and the only reason range were an issue at the time was because I were in germany and three of the charging locations along my route were out of order and I were running out of range to «just continue and try the next location» 2025-06-05T00:27:52 < zyp> that's never really been an issue for me in Norway, because pretty much all locations have multiple chargers, and it's unlikely all are out of order 2025-06-05T00:28:56 < zyp> and nowadays continuing to the next location often means crossing the parking lot to where the competing operator has their chargers :p 2025-06-05T00:30:24 < zyp> I think the closest chargers from here have four operators on the same lot 2025-06-05T00:30:54 < qyx> thats why you should BYOD a generator in the trunk 2025-06-05T00:32:58 < specing> I'd definetely like to see electric cars with small-er batteries that support charging while in motion from genset on trailer or roof 2025-06-05T00:33:18 < specing> because the issue with PHEVs is that you still pay ICE taxes 2025-06-05T00:34:10 < qyx> that whole long charging issue could be solved with replaceable small battery packs 2025-06-05T00:34:16 < zyp> yup, four different operators: https://bin.jvnv.net/file/hFa86.jpg 2025-06-05T00:34:21 < qyx> like 10 kWh one 2025-06-05T00:34:37 < zyp> and according to the app they've got 33 chargers in total there 2025-06-05T00:34:52 < zyp> 12+8+4+9 2025-06-05T00:35:09 < specing> Norway's electric grid must look thiccc 2025-06-05T00:35:24 < specing> qyx: it's not even long 2025-06-05T00:35:25 < qyx> can you flat tow an EV? 2025-06-05T00:35:44 < qyx> like over a parking lot? 2025-06-05T00:35:54 < zyp> of course 2025-06-05T00:36:14 < qyx> that's not much "of course" 2025-06-05T00:36:28 < zyp> you can even charge by regenerating while being towed :p 2025-06-05T00:36:30 < qyx> I can't tow my car with empty battery 2025-06-05T00:36:46 < zyp> wrong comparison 2025-06-05T00:36:50 < qyx> true 2025-06-05T00:36:56 < zyp> EVs also have the traditional 12V battery 2025-06-05T00:37:07 < zyp> probably can't tow an EV with empty 12V battery 2025-06-05T00:37:27 < zyp> but empty HV battery is like empty fuel tank 2025-06-05T00:37:34 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-05T00:37:41 < specing> why would flat 12V be an issue? 2025-06-05T00:38:03 < qyx> parking brake to start with 2025-06-05T00:38:07 < zyp> yeah 2025-06-05T00:38:20 < specing> That needs electricity nowadays? 2025-06-05T00:38:31 < zyp> they're electric on both my cars 2025-06-05T00:38:32 < specing> all cars I've used had a proper handbrake... 2025-06-05T00:38:42 < zyp> and on most modern ICE cars I've driven too 2025-06-05T00:38:45 < specing> mechanical only 2025-06-05T00:39:17 < zyp> I think the newest car I've driven with a mechanical handbrake was a 2015 polo 2025-06-05T00:39:43 < qyx> and even with a good battery it is an issue 2025-06-05T00:39:55 < qyx> I can't push my car on a parking lot 2025-06-05T00:40:08 < qyx> because I can't unbrake without engine running 2025-06-05T00:40:19 < qyx> and if I turn the engine off it brakes automatically 2025-06-05T00:40:33 < qyx> and if the engine stalls, it restarts on its own 2025-06-05T00:40:43 < specing> tech getting in the way 2025-06-05T00:40:45 < specing> smh 2025-06-05T01:09:06 -!- noarb [~noarb@user/noarb] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-05T01:09:25 -!- noarb [~noarb@user/noarb] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T04:07:49 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@user/rpifan] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-05T04:42:02 -!- stgl [~stgl@2a03:b0c0:3:d0::cad:a001] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-05T06:49:15 -!- Phantom [~Phantom@user/phantom] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T06:50:10 < Phantom> hi there, quick question, internal temperature sensor, I get a crapton of noise, like 5+ degree variation from one reading to the next. Is that normal or is my code broken? 2025-06-05T06:57:01 < tpbsd> it was normal for me, but my code was terrible 2025-06-05T06:57:20 < tpbsd> the sensor is only a diode 2025-06-05T06:57:28 < Phantom> ok 2025-06-05T06:57:47 < tpbsd> so writers have claimed the sorted it out 2025-06-05T06:58:02 < Phantom> it's fine for what I want to do with it, but I found it a bit annoying 2025-06-05T06:58:15 < tpbsd> lol, Id rather glue a LMT01 on the top and use that ;-) 2025-06-05T06:58:22 < Phantom> just wanted to see a crude display of the temperature 2025-06-05T06:58:56 < tpbsd> it's only supposed to be used to see if the mcu is outside normal limits I think 2025-06-05T06:59:06 < Phantom> which make sense 2025-06-05T06:59:10 < tpbsd> yeah 2025-06-05T06:59:29 < Phantom> but they should have put some internal filtering imo to reduce the noise 2025-06-05T06:59:54 < tpbsd> is it a low nouse design youre using or some demo board ? 2025-06-05T07:01:08 < Phantom> my own design, which need a new revision, current one have no use for ADC, but I'm redoing part of the code so I added it, so the true usage is currently unusable, the pin is floating so... 2025-06-05T07:02:45 < Phantom> DUH just remembered why my other board have a way more stable temperature readout, it use an NTC lol 2025-06-05T07:02:56 < tpbsd> yeah 2025-06-05T07:03:21 < tpbsd> diodes suck for temperature measurement, use a LMT01 instead 2025-06-05T07:03:39 < tpbsd> theyre cheap, calibrated and easy to use 2025-06-05T07:04:03 < Phantom> the NTC there is also for crude readout 2025-06-05T07:04:37 < tpbsd> yeah, NTC's arent calibrated unless you do it 2025-06-05T07:05:08 < Phantom> intended as a crude overheating protection of some motor drivers, located between two drivers, not even on a common ground plate 2025-06-05T07:06:14 < Phantom> and anyway, stm32f103 ain't the best too for ADC, so meh 2025-06-05T07:10:07 < tpbsd> the advantage of NTC is temperature max, they can go to 300 -400C 2025-06-05T07:10:24 < tpbsd> silicon is limited to <130 C 2025-06-05T07:10:46 < tpbsd> above 400C one needs thermocouples 2025-06-05T07:11:42 < Phantom> yeah, but NTC at such high temperature have such a low resistance that it become problematic, and a 4 wires should be used ideally 2025-06-05T07:12:03 < tpbsd> ah ok 2025-06-05T07:12:43 < tpbsd> hopefully a F103 shouldnt reach those temperatures ;-) 2025-06-05T07:13:49 < Phantom> yeah hopefully 2025-06-05T07:14:26 < tpbsd> I assume you would use it to see if your RC device was on fire ? 2025-06-05T07:15:36 < Phantom> the NTC on the motor driver board, more for development and torture test than anything else 2025-06-05T07:15:56 < tpbsd> I see 2025-06-05T07:16:18 < Phantom> the driver is self protected, have a current limiter, report current, is polyfuse protected, plus have a normal fuse 2025-06-05T07:18:00 < tpbsd> sounds well protected 2025-06-05T07:18:19 < Phantom> in theory 2025-06-05T07:20:02 < tpbsd> I used to soak the windings in 24 hr araldite then put DC thru them to heat them up to 90C and the araldite would set like glass 2025-06-05T07:20:21 < tpbsd> they were pretty tough at that stage 2025-06-05T07:23:11 -!- noarb [~noarb@user/noarb] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1+deb2+b3 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-05T07:26:11 -!- noarb [~noarb@user/noarb] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T07:33:21 < Phantom> I'm just annoyed that there is no easy way to assign index to the ADC DMA buffer array for the pin names... 2025-06-05T07:33:30 < Phantom> for the rank thing 2025-06-05T07:33:44 < Phantom> so if you change the rank or add another channel, so it won't break your code 2025-06-05T07:40:52 < tpbsd> I've never used dma as yet 2025-06-05T07:41:02 < tpbsd> so I know nothing in that area 2025-06-05T07:51:07 < Phantom> my code is 100% interrupt driven, which is nice 2025-06-05T07:52:16 < Phantom> still trying to figure out how to find how much CPU usage I have... not that easy it seems 2025-06-05T07:57:12 < tpbsd> I have a neat trick there 2025-06-05T07:57:33 < tpbsd> does it have tasks ? 2025-06-05T07:57:50 < Phantom> what are tasks? 2025-06-05T08:00:03 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-05T08:01:04 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T08:02:50 < tpbsd> ok, do you have a moving coil microammeter ? 2025-06-05T08:02:56 < qyx> if it is all interruot driven without any kind of scheduler, run a low priority recurring interrupt and lit a LED inside 2025-06-05T08:03:34 < tpbsd> qyz or use a moving coil microammeter 2025-06-05T08:03:35 < qyx> another approach is run a wfi() in a loop in yhe main task 2025-06-05T08:03:56 < Phantom> that is what I have there 2025-06-05T08:04:03 < Phantom> the wfi() in the main loop 2025-06-05T08:04:16 < Phantom> but, I don't see how that can tell you the idle time 2025-06-05T08:04:26 < qyx> hm yeah 2025-06-05T08:05:20 < Phantom> unless... I add a counter to each interrupts.. ticks in, tick out... 2025-06-05T08:05:32 < tpbsd> Phantom, one can only really tell the load easily I think 2025-06-05T08:06:42 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T08:12:03 < Phantom> the only way I can see is to check how many ms it spend in each interrupts, and compare with the system ms counter 2025-06-05T08:12:21 < Phantom> but that is very low resolution... and won't work 2025-06-05T08:17:09 < qyx> you don't have to change every interruot to count the time 2025-06-05T08:17:22 < qyx> just add a low prio one which runs all the other time 2025-06-05T08:17:31 < qyx> and count free time spend there 2025-06-05T08:50:01 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T09:06:49 < jpa-> Phantom: 1. take current time from DWT cycle counter 2. compare with previous time, if more than 1µs, add to busy time counter and then just clear the busy time counter every one second or whatever period you want for cpu load reporting 2025-06-05T09:07:21 < jpa-> adjust 1µs for the minimum length of interrupt handler (typically 24 cycles or so) 2025-06-05T09:11:06 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T09:12:24 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T09:26:07 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-05T09:30:16 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T10:32:50 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T10:35:38 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has quit [Quit: ERC 5.6.1-git (IRC client for GNU Emacs 31.0.50)] 2025-06-05T10:36:07 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T10:36:17 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-05T10:38:11 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T10:39:02 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 2025-06-05T10:40:59 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.7.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-05T10:41:41 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T10:50:58 -!- mrbussy [~user@2a00-bba0-120b-eb01-1060-ae7e-55e9-3543.static6.cust.trined.nl] has left ##stm32 [ERC 5.6.1-git (IRC client for GNU Emacs 31.0.50)] 2025-06-05T10:57:06 -!- soweli_iki [~user@user/soweli-iki:47461] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-05T10:58:18 -!- soweli_iki [~user@user/soweli-iki:47461] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T11:15:11 < tomeaton17> morning folks 2025-06-05T11:17:58 < tomeaton17> is ti webench any good? 2025-06-05T11:27:02 -!- hexo_ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T12:13:30 < karlp> I don't get this complain about pin ordering in dma list. 2025-06-05T12:13:35 < karlp> like, you set the order yourself... 2025-06-05T12:13:40 < karlp> what's the issue? 2025-06-05T12:26:14 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-05T12:45:06 -!- polprog [~ath0@user/polprog] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-05T13:05:30 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T13:12:01 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T13:24:23 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.25.199] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T13:52:40 -!- m5zs7k [aquares@web10.mydevil.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-05T13:53:32 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-05T13:53:37 -!- m5zs7k [aquares@web10.mydevil.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T14:04:19 < karlp> nice: this page: https://www.st.com/content/st_com/en/products/wireless-connectivity/short-range/wi-fi-products/st67w611m1.html lists it as "includes ST patented state of the art blah blah " 2025-06-05T14:04:26 < karlp> makes no mention _at all_ of qualcomm. 2025-06-05T14:04:56 < karlp> the promo email explicitly says "New Wi-Fi coprocessor modules built on Qualcomm technology" 2025-06-05T14:14:59 < tomeaton17> it does on the datasheet 2025-06-05T14:27:14 < qyx> sounds like nxp's iw611 2025-06-05T15:11:20 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T15:16:14 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-05T16:12:56 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-05T16:18:27 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.25.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-05T16:25:09 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-05T16:26:34 -!- kurfen [~kurfen@91.242.248.26] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T16:29:54 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T17:17:47 -!- Guest79 [~Guest79@cust226-dsl93-89-135.idnet.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T17:17:50 < Guest79> https://nitter.poast.org/pic/orig/media%2FGsn3EuTXQAAJv2p.jpg 2025-06-05T17:17:58 * karlp smells a lolrence. 2025-06-05T17:28:54 < tomeaton17> Yoo kay? 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I feel great right after the gym but by the time I've cooled off, all the good vibes and feeling like I'm ready to do anything have worn off... 2025-06-05T20:55:34 < bitmask> guess I'll just have to go back to taking drugs :) 2025-06-05T20:56:04 < jpa-> drugs have already destroyed your brain and you can never get back to normal good state anymore 2025-06-05T20:56:14 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-05T20:57:22 < bitmask> first of all, I never had a normal good state, hence the drugs... second of all, even though I still take methadone so I'm not sober, my normal state today is a million times better than its ever been 2025-06-05T20:58:36 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@user/rpifan] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-05T20:58:45 -!- yukam [~yukam@user/yukam] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T21:02:05 < bitmask> and I don't have any evidence and it may just be rumor, but isn't meth the only drug that really causes permanent brain damage? 2025-06-05T21:06:07 -!- polprog [~ath0@user/polprog] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T21:06:44 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-05T21:16:09 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@user/rpifan] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T21:25:34 < Steffanx> Mawk we need your expertise / experience 2025-06-05T21:25:54 < Steffanx> Time to gym 24/7 bitmask ? 2025-06-05T21:26:03 < bitmask> hah no thanks 2025-06-05T21:26:07 < Steffanx> With pauses of max 10 minutes 2025-06-05T21:28:45 < bitmask> i wish I could jump in the pool right after, I don't think people would like that very much though 2025-06-05T21:29:36 < qyx> oh sounds like I need some meth then 2025-06-05T21:34:26 < Steffanx> And money wyx 2025-06-05T21:34:29 < Steffanx> Qyx 2025-06-05T21:38:54 -!- rpifan [~rpifan@user/rpifan] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-05T21:41:03 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T21:48:35 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T22:18:27 < qyx> no, meth is enough, I would take some and sell the rest 2025-06-05T22:19:26 * qyx @ cocoa porridge 2025-06-05T22:56:44 -!- yukam [~yukam@user/yukam] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2025-06-05T22:58:18 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2025-06-05T23:02:11 -!- yukam [~yukam@user/yukam] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T23:06:33 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-05T23:08:59 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.34.219] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T23:25:21 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T23:32:21 -!- yukam [~yukam@user/yukam] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-05T23:37:41 -!- yukam [~yukam@user/yukam] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-05T23:55:08 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Fri Jun 06 2025 2025-06-06T00:01:18 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2025-06-06T00:17:53 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2025-06-06T00:22:21 < tomeaton17> >doing LFS for fun 2025-06-06T00:22:36 < tomeaton17> >deletes /usr/lib64 2025-06-06T00:23:11 < tpbsd> Linux from scratch ! 2025-06-06T00:23:32 < karlp> hrm, I'm callocing 10k for my fwupd file handler, which is nice for perf, but.... I think I can live with slower fwupdates in exchange for a chuynk of that. 2025-06-06T00:23:51 < tomeaton17> tpbsd: thats the one! 2025-06-06T00:26:34 < tomeaton17> I am such an idiot I thought I was ssh'd into the lfs. going to have to reinstall the host distro now 2025-06-06T00:29:26 < tpbsd> I remember once I deleted the root file system on a remote host via SSH and when I hit enter, my own screen locked up ! 2025-06-06T00:29:44 < tpbsd> oops I had just deleted everything on my pc 2025-06-06T00:30:16 < tpbsd> things like this gave rise to the saying "sit on your hands when root" 2025-06-06T00:31:09 < tpbsd> sine those days I have always made sure that root has a RED prompt 2025-06-06T00:39:47 < tomeaton17> Actually the first time I have nuked a system before 2025-06-06T00:42:22 < tpbsd> there are only two types of linux user, 'those who have nuked a Linux system and those who will nuke one' :) 2025-06-06T00:43:25 < tpbsd> nuking a Linux system is useful to show us how nonexistent or useless our back up system is 2025-06-06T00:46:14 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-06T00:47:18 < tomeaton17> this is very true 2025-06-06T00:47:40 < tomeaton17> unfortunately my internet speed is shit so will take a while to get everything back. Almost got debian reinstalled 2025-06-06T00:48:09 < tomeaton17> I live in the supposed silicon valley of the uk and I have 9MB/s max download 2025-06-06T00:48:54 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T00:49:30 < tpbsd> ouch 2025-06-06T00:51:03 < tpbsd> time to get Starlink perhaps, if you have the required view of the sky ? I have it (not on it now - budgeting as I spent my spare cash on AI hardware) and it's awesome as Internet in AU regional really sucks also 2025-06-06T00:51:14 < tomeaton17> apparently we can get fibre installed but I am renting so we will see what happens 2025-06-06T00:51:36 < tomeaton17> whats the ping like on starlink? 2025-06-06T00:51:40 < tpbsd> same, Im in a huge industrial shed in regional australia 2025-06-06T00:51:51 < tpbsd> 35mS 2025-06-06T00:52:04 < BrainDamage> at 300-something km you won't have ping issues 2025-06-06T00:52:05 < tomeaton17> lovely 2025-06-06T00:52:27 < tpbsd> unlimited dowload and starlink speed tests of 350mbps 2025-06-06T00:52:35 < BrainDamage> it's geostationary internet that has sats at 65000km 2025-06-06T00:52:46 < tpbsd> exactly 2025-06-06T00:53:14 < tomeaton17> tpbsd: sounds like an interesting living situation. I visited Australia about 10 years ago. Very enjoyable 2025-06-06T00:53:26 < tomeaton17> I am considering going for Christmas for the ashes 2025-06-06T00:53:38 < tpbsd> heavy rain affects Starlink slightly with lower download speeds, but still high in comparison to cellphone Internet 2025-06-06T00:54:20 < tpbsd> tomeaton17, it's still 'the arse end of the universe' here, not that Im complaining 2025-06-06T00:55:23 < tpbsd> tomeaton17, Im the kind of man who would rather have a milling machine than a loungeroom and couch to watch tv 2025-06-06T00:55:24 < BrainDamage> https://officialmancard.com/omc/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/meanwhile-in-australia.jpeg 2025-06-06T00:56:02 < tomeaton17> A sofa maybe slightly more comfortable to sleep on however 2025-06-06T00:56:04 < tpbsd> hah, 'down under' 2025-06-06T00:56:24 < tpbsd> but useless to mill with 2025-06-06T00:57:14 < tpbsd> I could have a couch tho, it would either have to me in my office (with my bed) or out in the 20 * 15 m workshop 2025-06-06T00:57:24 < tpbsd> me = be 2025-06-06T00:57:37 < BrainDamage> you can mill materials softer than the couch, so, talc? 2025-06-06T00:57:52 < BrainDamage> it's also going to be awkward to spin 2025-06-06T00:58:27 < tpbsd> I prefer soft 'turning bar' ie aluminum with zinc content 2025-06-06T00:59:08 < tpbsd> tho steel is ok, but I dont use that a lot in electronics as it rusts 2025-06-06T01:03:33 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-06T01:03:45 < tpbsd> dam, I told my local AI I had a 'xls' file when I meant 'xsl' in my last prompt and because it's a 35b version of Qwen-coder, it's slow at about 1.5 words a second reply so now I wait again .... 2025-06-06T02:25:38 -!- ferdna_ [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T02:28:08 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-06T04:35:30 -!- ferdna_ [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-06T05:28:15 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-06T05:32:49 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T07:03:18 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T07:04:08 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-06T07:04:32 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T07:38:15 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-06T08:00:03 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-06T08:06:36 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T08:10:52 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T08:31:14 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-06T08:33:43 < jpa-> tpbsd: no stop button? 2025-06-06T08:34:45 < tpbsd> jpa-, I want a 'go faster' button not a stop button :) 2025-06-06T08:35:12 < jpa-> well if you have a mistake in prompt or it misunderstands, you could stop midway 2025-06-06T08:35:20 < tpbsd> jpa-, actually I have a second RTC3060 card for the pc, so that will make it faster 2025-06-06T08:35:25 < tpbsd> oh I did 2025-06-06T08:35:35 < tpbsd> ctrl +c 2025-06-06T08:36:08 < tpbsd> but as it's slow it's the redo I had to wait for 2025-06-06T09:19:16 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T09:22:16 -!- drkow [~k\o\w@pool-99-255-54-76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T09:22:21 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T09:23:39 -!- drfff [~k\o\w@pool-99-255-54-76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-06T09:58:21 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T10:16:02 -!- drkow [~k\o\w@pool-99-255-54-76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-06T10:17:20 -!- drfff [~k\o\w@pool-99-255-54-76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T10:18:18 -!- ice [~ice@loud.house] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2025-06-06T10:32:35 -!- ice [~ice@loud.house] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T11:22:02 -!- drkow [~k\o\w@pool-99-255-54-76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T11:23:04 -!- drfff [~k\o\w@pool-99-255-54-76.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-06T11:36:16 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-06T13:20:36 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.34.219] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-06T14:06:48 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-06T14:43:04 < mawk> what Steffanx 2025-06-06T16:16:07 < qyx> is mawk goig to the ublox webinar? 2025-06-06T16:22:00 -!- socrates1298 [~socrates1@220.240.159.234] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T16:22:54 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T16:23:57 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-06T16:24:22 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T16:25:59 -!- socrates1298 [~socrates1@220.240.159.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2025-06-06T16:27:39 -!- socrates1298 [~socrates1@220.240.159.234] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T16:31:20 -!- socrates1298 [~socrates1@220.240.159.234] has quit [Client Quit] 2025-06-06T16:42:46 -!- socrates1298 [~socrates1@220.240.159.234] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T16:43:58 < Steffanx> Just read the few lines before I mentioned you mr mawk 2025-06-06T16:53:53 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T16:56:36 < bitmask> good morning 2025-06-06T17:02:14 -!- socrates1298 [~socrates1@220.240.159.234] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2025-06-06T17:10:44 < tomeaton17> hello there 2025-06-06T17:32:25 < bitmask> ukgh, this shader system is driving me nuts 2025-06-06T17:32:38 < bitmask> I can't decide how I want it all to work 2025-06-06T17:47:30 < tomeaton17> shader as in computer graphics? 2025-06-06T17:50:17 < bitmask> yea 2025-06-06T17:50:26 < bitmask> working on a vulkan game engine for fun 2025-06-06T17:54:52 < tomeaton17> bitmask: nice one, I did an opengl years ago. Have always planned to upgrade it to vulkan/dx12 but I don't think I abstracted much so don't want to go through the refactor hassle 2025-06-06T17:56:18 < bitmask> yea I'm designing this to be multi platform multi graplhics api but only implementing the vulkan stuff for now 2025-06-06T17:58:15 < bitmask> im on the third big architecture refactor because I'm not really planning stuff out and still learning a lot. I'd never used vulkan (and barely used opengl) before this so I had to try out things to see what worked and what didn't 2025-06-06T17:59:46 < tomeaton17> straight into vulkan is definitely the deep end, you will understand everything when you done however! 2025-06-06T18:00:38 < tomeaton17> bitmask: I would very much recommend Game Engine Architecture by Jason Gregory if you haven't read that already. Doesn't go much into low level stuff but great for system design advice 2025-06-06T18:00:39 < bitmask> I mean I started this a few years ago, I work on it for a while and then take long breaks. I don't have any plans for it so its really just for learning and I like working on it and learning about it. 2025-06-06T18:01:14 < tomeaton17> I think the last thing I did was integrating PhysX. That was good fun 2025-06-06T18:01:25 < bitmask> yea I have that downloaded actually. I definitely should read it and other stuff. A big part of my problem is being indecisive because I'm not sure the good way to do things 2025-06-06T18:05:25 < tomeaton17> its quite an easy read actually 2025-06-06T18:05:29 < bitmask> https://imgur.com/a/WMUon0g 2025-06-06T18:05:39 < bitmask> some screenshots 2025-06-06T18:06:03 < tomeaton17> glibc test suite actually passed 2025-06-06T18:06:49 < tomeaton17> looks really good 2025-06-06T18:06:55 < tomeaton17> pbr? 2025-06-06T18:07:11 < bitmask> thx, still very early though 2025-06-06T18:07:13 < bitmask> yea 2025-06-06T18:08:50 -!- haritz [~hrtz@2a01:4b00:bc2e:7000:d5af:a266:ca31:5ef8] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T18:08:50 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has changed host 2025-06-06T18:11:37 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T18:20:02 < tomeaton17> isnt vulkan on mac a bit hacky? 2025-06-06T18:20:22 < bitmask> yea it uses moltenvk which turns it into metal code 2025-06-06T18:20:39 < bitmask> but I don't want to learn metal, at least not yet 2025-06-06T18:20:47 < bitmask> and it runs well enough 2025-06-06T18:21:22 < bitmask> so I consider vulkan working on windows, linux, and mac 2025-06-06T18:25:07 < tomeaton17> so the vulkan code you write is completely portable? 2025-06-06T18:27:27 < bitmask> there are 2 or 3 places in the vulkan initialization where I need preprocessor directives to control based on OS, but you are gonna need stuff like that anyway for different things 2025-06-06T18:27:33 < bitmask> other than that yea 2025-06-06T18:29:09 < bitmask> and right now I'm using GLFW for window creation and user input which is multi platform 2025-06-06T18:32:06 < tomeaton17> lovely 2025-06-06T18:32:50 < tomeaton17> Are you using glm 2025-06-06T18:35:53 < bitmask> yea 2025-06-06T18:43:59 < tomeaton17> right time to call it a day. Just started off gcc compile and test, we will see what happens on monday.. 2025-06-06T19:02:10 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-06T19:03:12 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T20:14:16 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-06T21:05:22 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-06T21:11:01 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-06T21:29:45 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-06T22:08:39 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T22:25:03 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-06T22:58:08 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-06T23:01:04 < qyx> helo late friday covid innovators 2025-06-06T23:05:11 < Steffanx> What is covid? 2025-06-06T23:05:30 < Steffanx> Did you covid again qyx ? 2025-06-06T23:05:41 < qyx> most probably, so shit in my throat 2025-06-06T23:05:45 < qyx> *some 2025-06-06T23:06:06 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T23:06:10 < qyx> I was finally able to eat at least something after nearly 48h 2025-06-06T23:06:20 < qyx> fullly prepared for today's innovation 2025-06-06T23:07:16 < Steffanx> Did the kids bring you some of the fun stuff again? 2025-06-06T23:09:56 < qyx> most probably 2025-06-06T23:10:40 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.18.143] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T23:17:22 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-06T23:17:46 < machinehum> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLA_qgl2YYs 2025-06-06T23:17:49 < machinehum> Crazy 2025-06-06T23:18:34 < machinehum> Can't you use spread spectrum etc... Or I guess just all the channels could be jammed? 2025-06-06T23:30:02 < BrainDamage> spread spectrum only increases jamming requirements, does not stop them 2025-06-06T23:30:26 < machinehum> Makes sense 2025-06-06T23:31:27 < BrainDamage> a narrowband jammer in a spread sprectrum receiver gets scrambled into a broadband signal that has lower power density 2025-06-06T23:32:15 < BrainDamage> the spreading factor is same as the code gain 2025-06-06T23:33:09 < BrainDamage> but if you make the jammer stronger by that much, you've overcome the resilience and the channel is jammed again, even if the jamming is narrowband 2025-06-06T23:33:54 < BrainDamage> (that's for dsss, for fhss it's the same reasoning wrt broadband jammers) 2025-06-06T23:40:26 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2025-06-06T23:44:35 < Phantom> jpa-: have a howto in detail with code for that? Don't understand what you said :D --- Day changed Sat Jun 07 2025 2025-06-07T00:16:39 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-07T00:22:31 < tomeaton17> evenin 2025-06-07T00:22:41 < machinehum> hoi 2025-06-07T00:28:10 < tomeaton17> hows it going folks 2025-06-07T00:28:16 < tomeaton17> I may be downwind of a few 2025-06-07T00:28:34 < machinehum> I ran out of gin time for bed 2025-06-07T00:28:54 < tomeaton17> shame I cant share mine 2025-06-07T00:29:58 < machinehum> Sure is 2025-06-07T00:33:53 < machinehum> Night 2025-06-07T00:40:48 < tpbsd> my Plang2 is coming along nicely, I spent yesterday wrestling with XSLT 1.0 and needed AI help in the end 2025-06-07T00:42:12 < tpbsd> sadly I cant prefabricate write and read Words from the SVD as there are only three 'access rights' states that I use in that process 2025-06-07T00:44:11 < tpbsd> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mecrisp-stellaris-folkdoc/files/plang2-lmt01-5.png/download <-- plang2 if anyone is interested 2025-06-07T01:45:40 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-07T01:46:13 < tomeaton17> I have overindulged 2025-06-07T01:46:32 < tpbsd> hahah 2025-06-07T01:53:03 < tomeaton17> mrs is not happy 2025-06-07T01:53:06 < tomeaton17> anyway 2025-06-07T02:03:38 < qyx> I needed to look up that word 2025-06-07T02:05:05 < tomeaton17> which word 2025-06-07T02:05:27 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-07T02:05:39 < qyx> overindulge 2025-06-07T02:25:41 < tomeaton17> Probably for the best that it is not part of your lexicon, it is rather too familiar for me sadly 2025-06-07T02:55:22 < qyx> do I remember right you are from gb? 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2025-06-07T20:15:58 < jbo> machinehum 2025-06-07T20:16:31 < machinehum> jbo: hullo 2025-06-07T20:17:14 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-07T20:19:24 < machinehum> As for any security ... anything, can't tell you. But if you wan't simple notifications to go from iot something to phone it takes like 13 seconds 2025-06-07T20:20:31 < jbo> FreeBSD 14.3 is out. 2025-06-07T20:20:47 < jbo> announcement on the 10th 2025-06-07T20:24:33 -!- Phantom [~Phantom@user/phantom] has left ##stm32 [Leaving] 2025-06-07T20:48:37 -!- qyx [~qyx@84.245.120.112] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-07T20:49:32 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 2025-06-07T20:50:33 -!- qyx [~qyx@84.245.120.171] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-07T20:55:30 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-07T21:59:30 < Steffanx> Why is it announced 3 days after it's out mr jbo ? 2025-06-07T23:04:38 < jbo> shipping out images to vendors 2025-06-07T23:07:59 < Steffanx> Sounds important 2025-06-07T23:09:20 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@1.145.99.145] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Sun Jun 08 2025 2025-06-08T00:12:38 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 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XD 2025-06-10T02:17:24 < tpbsd> specing is that serial 0 ? 2025-06-10T02:20:13 < qyx_> everytime when I see "bluepill" my vision gets blurred 2025-06-10T02:20:20 < specing> tpbsd: no 2025-06-10T02:20:27 -!- qyx_ is now known as qyx 2025-06-10T02:20:48 < specing> no, wait, damn, false alarm 2025-06-10T02:20:54 < specing> I was looking at two dumps from same chip :| 2025-06-10T02:21:05 < tpbsd> specing, are the cpu's marked stm32f103 ? 2025-06-10T02:21:16 < specing> tpbsd: stm32f103c6t6A yes 2025-06-10T02:22:23 < tpbsd> specing, have you ever run the 'bluepill diags' on any bluepills ? 2025-06-10T02:23:34 < tpbsd> specing, it's designed to determine what the actual bluepill cpu is 2025-06-10T02:24:14 < specing> tpbsd: link pls 2025-06-10T02:24:34 < tpbsd> https://mecrisp-stellaris-folkdoc.sourceforge.io/bluepill-diags-v1.640.html 2025-06-10T02:24:52 < specing> I used greaseweezle's tester, it reports that peripherals work, but crashes during flash test 2025-06-10T02:25:05 < specing> so my chips report 32KB, but... maybe they have only 16K? 2025-06-10T02:25:47 < tpbsd> 32kb is very odd 2025-06-10T02:26:18 < tpbsd> generally they have 128kb of flash in two groups of 64kb, but one is 'hidden' 2025-06-10T02:26:57 < specing> tpbsd: c6t6 is a low density part 2025-06-10T02:27:05 < tpbsd> specing, ahh 2025-06-10T02:27:38 < tpbsd> specing, if it's really 32kb then the bliepill diags wont load as it needs 64kb 2025-06-10T02:27:38 < specing> apparently they go down to 16KB 2025-06-10T02:28:13 < specing> hah, and on that page they praise their forth for fitting where others dont 2025-06-10T02:28:34 < specing> https://github.com/keirf/Greaseweazle/wiki/STM32-Fakes 2025-06-10T02:28:34 < tpbsd> it's my design 2025-06-10T02:28:36 < specing> this is what I used 2025-06-10T02:28:42 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-10T02:29:55 < specing> ah? I'd challenge you to make it fit into 32K but if this really has only 16K then that's... yeah, I challenge you to make it fit into 16K XD 2025-06-10T02:30:06 < tpbsd> youll neede something small if it really only has 32kb flash 2025-06-10T02:30:20 < specing> c6t6 has only 32K yeah, that's by official spec 2025-06-10T02:30:29 < tpbsd> I can easily fit into 20kb 2025-06-10T02:30:39 < tpbsd> so I can run it from ram 2025-06-10T02:31:03 < tpbsd> but I put a lot of doc and help into the release to assist users 2025-06-10T02:31:18 < specing> ah, strings 2025-06-10T02:31:38 < tpbsd> yeah, text takes up massive room 2025-06-10T02:32:06 < tpbsd> it also has a lot of labelled register prints for development 2025-06-10T02:32:33 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-10T02:33:40 < tpbsd> thats the reason it takes up 64k, I filled everything above 20kb with development aids 2025-06-10T02:34:47 < specing> tpbsd: could make a python host-side program to stream commands to it, so the UI can be huge and bloated 2025-06-10T02:35:28 < tpbsd> go then :) 2025-06-10T02:37:40 < tpbsd> I welcome the competition 2025-06-10T02:38:40 < tpbsd> I released it around 2018 and still get about 6 downloads a day. SF sent me a 10,000 badge about a year ago 2025-06-10T02:40:41 < tpbsd> maybe you can get an article on it in Hackaday also ? https://hackaday.com/2021/06/23/test-your-blue-pill-board-for-a-genuine-stm32f103c8-mcu/ 2025-06-10T02:41:04 < specing> naaaaaaaa I don't want to NIH 2025-06-10T02:41:29 < specing> I just wanted to see if these chips work before using them for my own projects 2025-06-10T02:41:56 < tpbsd> of course 2025-06-10T02:42:17 < specing> now i'm doctoring the .hex file tosee if I can flash beyond 16K.. 2025-06-10T02:42:27 < specing> but st-flash is whining, brb 2025-06-10T02:42:47 < tpbsd> specing, it turns out the Chinese clones are faster, better, have no silicon bugs and are cheaper and available 2025-06-10T02:42:58 < tpbsd> who new ? 2025-06-10T02:43:51 < specing> noone found any errata in them, yet? 2025-06-10T02:43:55 < specing> err, bugs.. 2025-06-10T02:44:18 < tpbsd> all of the Chinese stlink units, the ones that look like a usb stick all have a APM32F103 clone of the STM32F103 and they run the stlink firmware from STm 2025-06-10T02:44:29 < specing> One of these bluepills has the IDCODE bug(?) fixed, though I see this bug only mentioned for *CDE chips (the high density ones) 2025-06-10T02:45:26 < specing> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/751a2fb6/ 2 dumps from two chips 2025-06-10T02:45:26 < tpbsd> the STM32F103 have a huge number of silicon bugs that were never fixed 2025-06-10T02:45:51 < tpbsd> it took the Chinese clones to fix them 2025-06-10T02:52:17 < qyx> nobody is gonna fix bugs on an obsolete product 2025-06-10T02:52:29 < qyx> especially if firmware features depend on them 2025-06-10T02:57:13 < specing> the thing is, stm32f103 is not obsolete - there's nothing to replace it in the price range, is there? 2025-06-10T02:57:25 < tpbsd> qyx, sure, in fact my bluepill diags depends on at least one of the stm32f1x silicon bugs 2025-06-10T02:58:03 < tpbsd> it's not obsolete because of all the Chinese clones more than anything 2025-06-10T02:58:20 < tpbsd> Im sure STm would love it to be obsolete 2025-06-10T02:58:49 < specing> is production of genuine f103 still running? 2025-06-10T02:59:08 < tpbsd> specing, who knows ? 2025-06-10T02:59:48 < tpbsd> specing, the price of genuine STM32F103 has been going up at the resellers such as arrpw.com for ages 2025-06-10T03:00:19 < tpbsd> arrow.com 2025-06-10T03:01:11 < specing> if its still for sale then it must be comng frm somewhere... 2025-06-10T03:03:00 < tpbsd> yeah, looks like theyre still in production 2025-06-10T03:03:13 < tpbsd> farnell want £6.220 for one 2025-06-10T03:07:45 < specing> wow, expensive 2025-06-10T03:08:49 < tpbsd> I tried arrow.com first as farnell is expensive anyway, but arrow has some web issue atm 2025-06-10T03:10:05 < specing> tpbsd: hmm, st-flash has no issues flashing all 32K 2025-06-10T03:10:29 < specing> and it verifies 2025-06-10T03:10:36 < specing> :204000007374696E672025756B42205352414D2028656E646C657373206C6F6F70292E2EFA 2025-06-10T03:10:38 < specing> :205000007374696E672025756B42205352414D2028656E646C657373206C6F6F70292E2EFA 2025-06-10T03:10:40 < specing> :206000007374696E672025756B42205352414D2028656E646C657373206C6F6F70292E2EFA 2025-06-10T03:10:42 < specing> :207000007374696E672025756B42205352414D2028656E646C657373206C6F6F70292E2EFA 2025-06-10T03:10:49 < specing> this is what I doctored into the .hex btw 2025-06-10T03:12:05 < tpbsd> the APM32F103C8T6 is $0.8737USD ea at https://lcsc.com/search?q=apm32f103&s_z=n_apm32f103 2025-06-10T03:16:28 < specing> tpbsd: do you do any advanced tests, like obscure usart modes or ADC/DAC linearity and whatnot? 2025-06-10T03:17:40 < tpbsd> no, I dont even use the STM32F103 or clones myself, Im only into STM32F051 and MSP430 2025-06-10T03:18:18 < specing> wonder if greaseweazle's blinky actually tries writing 64KB-page instead of 32KB-page... 2025-06-10T03:18:33 < specing> or maybe flash reprogramming is actually broken on the clone, do you test that? 2025-06-10T03:20:46 < tpbsd> ive never even had a clone in my possession, the owners do that 2025-06-10T03:21:24 < specing> "the owners" 2025-06-10T03:21:26 < specing> ? 2025-06-10T03:21:30 < specing> and.. huh? 2025-06-10T03:22:36 < tpbsd> lol, actually, come to think of it I do own ten APM32F103 clones, theyre inside my 10 STLINK units ($2 each from China) 2025-06-10T03:23:36 < tpbsd> specing, owners of bluepills downloas my diags to run on their boards, always because their boards dont work normally and they suspect they have a clone 2025-06-10T03:30:38 < tpbsd> specing, I dont even have a bluepill board, only some genuine STM32F103 chips 2025-06-10T03:33:16 < specing> tpbsd: interesting 2025-06-10T03:48:29 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@lfbn-lyo-1-763-48.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-10T03:51:44 < specing> so exception #5 is a bus fault? (as in, uint8_t casted read of PSR) (just checking if im reading the docs correctly, havent done this in a while) 2025-06-10T03:55:24 -!- jfsimon [~jfsimon19@lfbn-lyo-1-763-48.w92-137.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T04:00:19 -!- phryk [~totallyno@user/phryk] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-10T04:01:03 -!- phryk [~totallyno@user/phryk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T04:06:19 < tpbsd> specing, the arrow.com web site is back up :) they have amongst the lowest prices and a single $STM32F103C8T6 in 48-Pin LQFP costs $1.7009 USD 2025-06-10T04:07:18 < tpbsd> so the Chinese clone is half price, runs at 96MHz and has no silicon faults 2025-06-10T04:14:18 < specing> nice 2025-06-10T04:14:26 < specing> except this bus fault.. 2025-06-10T04:14:58 < specing> tpbsd: that website of yours gave me an idea.. maybe the c6t6 has a second hidden 32K flash block? 2025-06-10T04:15:53 < specing> tried adding :209000003038780A002072343A20202530387820202072353A2020253038782020207236 to blinky and flashing with st-flash --flash=128k write blinky-test-f1-1.6.hex 0x8000000 2025-06-10T04:15:59 < tpbsd> specing, I've heard that STM only made 64KB dies and just marked the 'flash area' accordingly 2025-06-10T04:16:21 < specing> but, it seems to ignore the 0x9000 data 2025-06-10T04:16:45 < tpbsd> specing, so mayve the 16kb version has 3 hidden 16kb blocks ? 2025-06-10T04:17:10 < specing> 3 ??? 2025-06-10T04:17:18 < specing> ah... 2025-06-10T04:17:20 < tpbsd> as in a total of 128kb 2025-06-10T04:17:25 < tpbsd> oops 2025-06-10T04:17:40 < tpbsd> specing, I've heard that STM only made 128KB dies and just marked the 'flash area' accordingly 2025-06-10T04:17:45 < specing> well.. what you said maks little sense because then those chips wouldn't have 2 blocks of 64 2025-06-10T04:17:49 < specing> ah! 2025-06-10T04:17:54 < specing> 2025-06-10T03:12:54 INFO common.c: Finished erasing 31 pages of 1024 (0x400) bytes 2025-06-10T04:17:57 < specing> why not 32? 2025-06-10T04:18:11 < tpbsd> different dies cost money 2025-06-10T04:18:25 < tpbsd> to maintain etc 2025-06-10T04:18:28 < specing> I mean, why doesen't st-flash erase 32 pages 2025-06-10T04:18:51 < specing> missing erase for 0x7a00 2025-06-10T04:19:00 < tpbsd> it's the flash controller that controls the erase size 2025-06-10T04:19:01 < specing> err, 7c00 2025-06-10T04:19:55 < specing> I see. It originally erased only 13 pages, guess I need to doctor the last bits too 2025-06-10T04:20:09 * specing makes a random 64K file *sigh* 2025-06-10T04:20:30 < specing> actually, no, dont want it executing who knows what 2025-06-10T04:20:35 < tpbsd> just flash the bluepill diags :) 2025-06-10T04:20:42 < specing> ...yes 2025-06-10T04:21:05 < tpbsd> then you can talk to the board via usb and a serial terminal 2025-06-10T04:21:49 < tpbsd> and run the hidden block 64kb test, which does a alternating bit pattern test on each byte 2025-06-10T04:22:24 < specing> USB as in its native interface? That'd be cool, my serial setup is flimsy AF atm (requires me to hold a pin pressed..) 2025-06-10T04:22:36 < tpbsd> yes 2025-06-10T04:22:47 < tpbsd> as in the default blue pill usb 2025-06-10T04:23:20 < tpbsd> just plug it into a usb cable to your pc and run a terminal emulator 2025-06-10T04:23:32 < specing> tpbsd: btw, "st-flash erase --flash=128k" gives me "invalid command line" 2025-06-10T04:24:17 < tpbsd> thats because it's reading the mcu internal 'flash size' register ? 2025-06-10T04:24:24 < specing> ah, damn 2025-06-10T04:24:26 < specing> 025-06-10T03:24:15 ERROR common.c: Verification of flash failed at offset: 32768 2025-06-10T04:25:16 < tpbsd> oh, maybe it's really a 32kb flash unit 2025-06-10T04:26:13 < specing> well 2025-06-10T04:26:49 < specing> this is the bluepill with fixed ID register (or maybe not fixed, discovery's stlink was connected to it) 2025-06-10T04:27:01 < specing> maybe the chinese dont mind making different flash dies? 2025-06-10T04:27:18 < tpbsd> does '"st-flash erase --flash=128k" overide the internal 'flash size' register ? 2025-06-10T04:27:43 < specing> tpbsd: invalid command line 2025-06-10T04:28:10 < specing> INFO common.c: Flash page at addr: 0x0800ec00 erased 2025-06-10T04:28:39 < tpbsd> so " "st-flash erase --flash=64k" would also fail ? 2025-06-10T04:28:43 < specing> so it didn't mind erasing past 32K, just verification failed. Or maybe controller knew it was a no-op and failed successfully 2025-06-10T04:28:59 < specing> tpbsd: invalid command line 2025-06-10T04:31:26 < tpbsd> that sounds like a stlink error 2025-06-10T04:32:00 < specing> tpbsd: it prints command-line help immidiately 2025-06-10T04:32:18 < specing> doubt it reaches stlink at all 2025-06-10T04:34:58 < tpbsd> i mean it sounds like a st-flash error 2025-06-10T04:35:28 < tpbsd> specing, are you familiar with the STM32F 'flash size' register ? 2025-06-10T04:35:32 < specing> y, maybe my st-flash is older (or newer) 2025-06-10T04:35:45 < specing> I've learned about it from this blinky test 2025-06-10T04:36:01 < specing> it contains "32" 2025-06-10T04:36:17 < tpbsd> st-link reads that register and assumes it's correct and acts accordingly 2025-06-10T04:36:58 < specing> then it'd stop writing past 32K and/or complain before starting to write? 2025-06-10T04:37:14 < specing> it only fails at verification stage 2025-06-10T04:37:15 < tpbsd> but if the chip contains more flash than the 'flash size' register, and you want to go past that, you have to modify the st-link program 2025-06-10T04:38:15 < specing> maybe the one my distro ships is hacked up 2025-06-10T04:38:34 < tpbsd> ahh, no youre right 2025-06-10T04:38:47 < tpbsd> I wrote back then "--flash=128k" works 2025-06-10T04:39:04 < specing> yeah, it'd make no sense for it to ignore flash size for erase and write, but not for verification 2025-06-10T04:39:13 < tpbsd> st-flash erase --flash=128k 2025-06-10T04:39:21 < tpbsd> and you tried that 2025-06-10T04:39:41 < specing> erase command does not exist 2025-06-10T04:39:51 < specing> st-flash --flash=64k write bluepill-diagnostics-v1.640.bin 0x8000000 2025-06-10T04:39:56 < specing> this is what I used 2025-06-10T04:40:23 < specing> stlink 1.7.0 2025-06-10T04:41:12 < tpbsd> erqase doesnt exist now ? it must be inbuilt into the write op 2025-06-10T04:41:27 < specing> write does erase first, yes 2025-06-10T04:41:54 < tpbsd> it didnt in v1.5 2025-06-10T04:43:13 < tpbsd> so the question is 'does --flash=64' work on a chip with 32kb programmed in the 'flash size' register 2025-06-10T04:43:36 < tpbsd> or does st-flash require some special config ? 2025-06-10T04:45:02 < specing> it works. Reports successfull erase of all 64K, reports succesfull write of all 64k, fails verification past 32K 2025-06-10T04:45:13 < tpbsd> oh wow 2025-06-10T04:45:46 < tpbsd> so diags should run ? 2025-06-10T04:47:24 < specing> tpbsd: nothing shows up on usb port 2025-06-10T04:47:59 < tpbsd> darn 2025-06-10T05:51:23 -!- NEYi_ [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T06:18:48 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-10T06:41:20 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T08:00:03 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-10T08:01:35 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T08:04:06 -!- NEYi_ [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-10T08:06:15 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T08:32:19 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T09:03:06 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T09:56:21 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-10T09:57:17 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T10:00:58 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T10:14:42 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 4.6.3] 2025-06-10T11:01:57 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-10T11:42:45 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T12:15:17 < machinehum> Nice sbb found my bag 2025-06-10T12:15:35 < machinehum> Forgot it on the train last weekend 2025-06-10T12:17:07 < tpbsd> nice! 2025-06-10T12:23:58 -!- BrainDamage [~m-t6k752@user/BrainDamage] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-10T12:24:12 < machinehum> Yes very happy about that, I'm an idiot and forgot it. Had my passport, laptop, all my riding clothes 2025-06-10T12:24:27 < machinehum> My special SA knife a swiss dude gave me 2025-06-10T12:25:02 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-10T12:27:08 < tpbsd> ... lucky! 2025-06-10T12:48:54 -!- BrainDamage [~m-t6k752@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T12:49:08 -!- BrainDamage_ [~m-t6k752@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T12:55:57 -!- rkta [~rkta@user/rkta] has left ##stm32 [] 2025-06-10T13:10:22 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-10T13:10:45 -!- specing [~specing@user/specing] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T13:50:53 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T14:06:25 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-10T14:15:13 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T15:15:05 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-10T15:48:59 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T15:50:06 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-10T15:50:19 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T16:03:11 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-10T16:17:04 -!- PaulFertser [paul@paulfertser.info] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T16:31:38 -!- krish2487 [~krishna@62.135.140.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2025-06-10T17:00:30 -!- duude__ [~duude__@user/duude/x-4676560] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T17:11:42 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-10T17:23:41 < specing> tpbsd: does your firmware also produce any output on regular usart? 2025-06-10T17:23:57 < specing> (and if so, which pin is tx?) Tried a9 and got no life out of it 2025-06-10T17:24:18 < specing> Though, it's likely that it tries jumping past 32k and dies 2025-06-10T17:25:44 < jbo> machinehum, that's because we don't steal stuff 2025-06-10T17:26:28 < machinehum> Yeah I wasn't that worried about it, but still 2025-06-10T17:26:30 < jbo> a few years ago a dude lost a briefcase with close to 100k in it. random dude found it, brought it to SBB, dude got it back a day later. no money missing 2025-06-10T17:26:42 < machinehum> What lol 2025-06-10T17:26:59 < machinehum> What was he doing with a briefcase with 100k in it? 2025-06-10T17:27:01 < jbo> stealing is not cool, doesn't matter what value/amount. 2025-06-10T17:27:17 < jbo> shouldn't matter - don't steal stuff :p 2025-06-10T17:27:26 < machinehum> course 2025-06-10T17:41:14 < Steffanx> Where's our gold jbo.. :P 2025-06-10T17:41:15 < tomeaton17> jbo: what about proprietary software? 2025-06-10T17:41:30 < tomeaton17> You wouldn't steal a car... 2025-06-10T17:41:53 < Steffanx> Just ask them about Jewish gold. 2025-06-10T17:42:06 < jbo> tomeaton17, same thing. don't steal. 2025-06-10T17:42:42 < tomeaton17> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/04/you-wouldnt-steal-a-car-anti-piracy-campaign-may-have-used-pirated-fonts/ 2025-06-10T17:43:51 < jbo> yeah, stealing a font - also not okay. 2025-06-10T17:45:19 < machinehum> jbo: what about gas ? 2025-06-10T17:45:26 < machinehum> If it's just a bit https://youtube.com/shorts/nbrj2Y5sVI8?si=rdcRqzpEZksap1y- 2025-06-10T17:45:49 < jbo> not okay. 2025-06-10T17:47:57 < tomeaton17> what about someones heart 2025-06-10T17:48:02 < tomeaton17> can you steal that? 2025-06-10T17:48:52 < jbo> only if it's consensual - at which point it is no longer stealing 2025-06-10T18:33:31 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T18:48:44 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-10T19:51:12 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T20:05:06 -!- soweli_iki [~user@user/soweli-iki:47461] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-10T20:16:48 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-10T20:17:03 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@206.83.118.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-10T20:17:52 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@65.181.14.92] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T20:22:13 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@65.181.14.92] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-10T20:22:44 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T20:23:18 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@65.181.14.92] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T20:51:33 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T21:06:13 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 2025-06-10T21:21:04 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T22:00:25 < qyx> stealing is bad 2025-06-10T22:00:34 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-10T22:03:25 < qyx> today I stole the $customer a bunch of test/needle hook clips 2025-06-10T22:10:09 * antto hides his money 2025-06-10T22:19:25 < Steffanx> Apparently this proves youre not swiss qyx 2025-06-10T22:32:04 < qyx> oh that's.. why? 2025-06-10T22:47:08 < Steffanx> Apparently yes 2025-06-10T22:48:00 < qyx> anyway, I am now in a half-disassembled state, probably no innovation tonight 2025-06-10T22:48:13 < qyx> and that's sad 2025-06-10T22:53:35 -!- BrainDamage [~m-t6k752@user/BrainDamage] has left ##stm32 [] 2025-06-10T22:54:03 -!- BrainDamage [~m-t6k752@user/BrainDamage] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-10T22:54:04 -!- BrainDamage_ [~m-t6k752@user/BrainDamage] has left ##stm32 [] 2025-06-10T22:55:38 < Steffanx> What did you do to get disassembled qyx ? 2025-06-10T22:55:54 < Steffanx> and why 2025-06-10T22:56:08 < qyx> roaming thru the country for the second day 2025-06-10T22:58:06 < Steffanx> Ah. Not that bad is it? 2025-06-10T23:11:03 < Steffanx> Or is it with the kids and all? :P 2025-06-10T23:11:35 < zyp> I found a box of stroopwafels in the store today 2025-06-10T23:12:10 < zyp> considered buying one, but then I peeked inside and saw it was only half full, and then the price seemed unreasonably high, so I passed 2025-06-10T23:13:38 < Steffanx> Such disappointment. 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with them 2025-06-11T17:58:55 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-11T18:06:40 -!- soweli_iki [~user@user/soweli-iki:47461] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T18:13:16 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-11T19:24:32 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T19:31:13 < karlp> zntar at least are predominately in the current transformer market, not "regular transformers" 2025-06-11T19:31:18 < karlp> nordtek does everything. 2025-06-11T19:35:02 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-11T19:46:34 -!- soweli_iki [~user@user/soweli-iki:47461] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-11T19:54:16 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T20:01:27 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T20:38:20 -!- soweli_iki [~user@user/soweli-iki:47461] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T20:48:47 < qyx> helo commercial pros, anyone ever licensed a hw design to someone else? 2025-06-11T20:51:25 -!- qyx_ [~qyx@84.245.121.28] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T20:51:32 < qyx_> so, once again 2025-06-11T20:53:21 -!- qyx [~qyx@84.245.121.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-11T20:53:24 < jpa-> only in the sense that i have sometimes priced hobby project stuff as "prior development" in consulting 2025-06-11T20:55:35 -!- Livio_ [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T20:58:40 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-11T21:11:14 < qyx_> oh 80% of stuff I do is prior development :> 2025-06-11T21:11:17 -!- qyx_ is now known as qyx 2025-06-11T21:11:21 < Steffanx> Do the usually get the sources etc. of the things you made for your clients? 2025-06-11T21:11:24 < Steffanx> *they 2025-06-11T21:12:08 < machinehum> Sadly laptop was not in bag when I got it back 2025-06-11T21:12:32 < machinehum> Promptly bought a net t14 ryzen 7 2025-06-11T21:12:33 < qyx> Steffanx: for me, I explicitly state which parts are done for future reuse and/or as a contribution to open sourc eprojects 2025-06-11T21:12:37 < machinehum> new 2025-06-11T21:13:14 < Steffanx> I heard swissers dont steal so it must be there machinehum :P 2025-06-11T21:13:21 < Steffanx> (or it wasnt a swisser) 2025-06-11T21:13:38 < machinehum> Almost certainly not a swisser 2025-06-11T21:13:50 < machinehum> Well maybe a really greasy one 2025-06-11T21:14:11 < machinehum> Maybe jbo just took it, next time we see each other it will have freebsd 14.3 on it 2025-06-11T21:14:58 < Steffanx> So that's before March 2026? 2025-06-11T21:15:24 < Steffanx> qyx: but they do get the sources of it all? 2025-06-11T21:17:06 < Steffanx> oh maybe its December 2025. Then its FreeBSD 15.0 time. 2025-06-11T21:17:47 < qyx> Steffanx: if it was made as a contribution to an opensource project, as the license says, future clients will have it available 2025-06-11T21:20:31 < Steffanx> Im not sure how open source your projects usually are. At $work clients usually get "ownership" of all sources, except for the already licenses libs ofcourse. 2025-06-11T21:21:36 < jbo> FreeBSD 14 will be supported until November 2028 2025-06-11T21:21:44 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-11T21:21:46 < jbo> FreeBSD 15 is scheduled for December 2025 2025-06-11T21:22:27 < Steffanx> Welcome jbo. 2025-06-11T21:25:33 < jbo> Thank you 2025-06-11T21:47:51 < qyx> Steffanx: there are projects in both regimes 2025-06-11T22:08:36 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T22:21:36 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-11T22:46:56 -!- NEYi [~NEYi@195.234.78.191] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-11T22:59:48 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2025-06-11T23:49:08 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Thu Jun 12 2025 2025-06-12T00:56:37 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.74.222] has 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the most northernmost here 2025-06-12T01:23:12 -!- Livio_ [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-12T01:23:17 < nomorekaki> and it's solid 15C summer here 2025-06-12T01:23:32 < nomorekaki> maybe 20C some days 2025-06-12T01:27:02 -!- c10ud_ [~c10ud@host-79-41-124-229.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T01:27:28 < ventyl> I'd still call it late spring 2025-06-12T01:27:48 < ventyl> summer begins when the temperature won't drop below 20C all the night :> 2025-06-12T01:28:02 < qyx> idk but that's already here 2025-06-12T01:28:06 < qyx> *was 2025-06-12T01:28:08 < qyx> last week 2025-06-12T01:28:34 < nomorekaki> I wound call it summer because of the increased moist 2025-06-12T01:28:53 < nomorekaki> spring is dry and cloudless and windy 2025-06-12T01:28:59 -!- c10ud [~c10ud@user/c10ud] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-12T01:29:09 -!- Alexer [~alexer@alexer.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-12T01:29:10 < nomorekaki> summer is when it starts raining and cummulus appears 2025-06-12T01:29:58 < nomorekaki> mosquitos and all the crawlers, weeds are fully grown already etc. 2025-06-12T01:30:30 < nomorekaki> trees have full leaf cover 2025-06-12T01:45:54 -!- martinmoene_ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-12T01:47:09 < nomorekaki> thermal summer in finland according to finnish meterological institute is when daily average temperature rises above +10C 2025-06-12T01:48:20 < nomorekaki> so it has been summer for over a month or something already 2025-06-12T01:49:42 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-12T01:56:41 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T02:13:41 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.74.222] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2025-06-12T02:18:49 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-12T02:59:09 -!- c10ud_ 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foo; main loop: foo++; timer interrrupt: foo=0; <=== can foo be corrupted due to the interrupt? Basically making a cpu usage thing. I get 65% idle, but it also jump to 131% so it seems like the main loop foo++ is not atomic? 2025-06-12T16:13:55 < ventyl> foo++ is not an atomic function on cortex-m 2025-06-12T16:14:22 < ventyl> at least not v6m and v7m, IDK if v8m contains support fot atomic operations but I guess not 2025-06-12T16:21:31 < ventyl> even if it did an ordinary variable increment is not an atomic operation by default 2025-06-12T16:22:31 < PhantomWork> ok thanks 2025-06-12T16:23:24 < PhantomWork> that explain the weird thing I had... which mean I should do this differently as to not disable the interrupts 1/4 of the time... 2025-06-12T16:23:27 < ventyl> you can disable / enable interrupts around this action 2025-06-12T16:43:42 < PhantomWork> idle: 85% I'm surprised that it is so idle 2025-06-12T16:44:35 < ventyl> that depends on what it does, what chip it is and at what frequency does it run 2025-06-12T16:45:25 < PhantomWork> yeah, thing is, I optimised nothing, far from it. All I did is avoid float, somehow stuff crashed so I just avoided it 2025-06-12T16:45:33 < PhantomWork> that's the only optimisation I did 2025-06-12T16:50:54 < jpa-> PhantomWork: you can use __atomic_add_fetch() 2025-06-12T16:50:57 < ventyl> well, the thing is that basically any STM32 can run at 16MHz and it does so in 32-bit mode 2025-06-12T16:51:09 < ventyl> that's more processing power than 386 had 2025-06-12T16:51:59 < PhantomWork> yeah and this one run at 72 2025-06-12T16:59:56 < PhantomWork> but it still process 273 Rx Can messages, transmit 300, plus transmit a wall of debug text, like 10-15kB, every second second.... but I also broke the code it seems... grr 2025-06-12T17:00:42 < PhantomWork> oh yeah I know where I broke it, duh... 2025-06-12T17:10:09 < tomeaton17> boeing stock took a bit of a hit after that 2025-06-12T17:10:24 < tomeaton17> looks like a double engine failure 2025-06-12T17:31:37 < jbo> you're welcome, Steffanx 2025-06-12T17:35:44 -!- haritz [~hrtz@user/haritz] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2+deb3.1+deb12u1 - https://znc.in] 2025-06-12T18:15:40 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T18:23:46 < Steffanx> Welcome for what Mr sir jbo ? 2025-06-12T18:25:11 < jbo> thank you! 2025-06-12T18:44:03 < Steffanx> Is Mr jbo alright? 2025-06-12T18:46:49 < jbo> definitely 2025-06-12T18:46:50 < jbo> there? 2025-06-12T18:50:41 < Steffanx> Sure 2025-06-12T18:50:46 < Steffanx> Thanks 2025-06-12T19:35:39 < jbo> you're welcome! 2025-06-12T19:40:46 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T20:13:00 -!- polprog [~ath0@about/hackers/polprog] has changed host 2025-06-12T20:16:46 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-12T20:30:24 -!- martinmoene__ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-12T20:39:28 -!- nomorekaki [~nomorekak@176-93-92-213.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T20:41:21 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T20:42:23 < Steffanx> Early night Mr nomorekaki 2025-06-12T20:42:40 < nomorekaki> early pump 2025-06-12T20:44:49 < nomorekaki> movie 2025-06-12T20:54:52 -!- martinmoene__ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T21:24:32 < ventyl> why my timer power outlet has correct time? 2025-06-12T21:24:36 < ventyl> it should be in winter time 2025-06-12T21:26:52 < Steffanx> Yeah, why is it, ventyl ? 2025-06-12T21:29:59 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-12T21:37:26 < ventyl> I'd expect it to be set to winter time 2025-06-12T21:37:57 < karlp> bargains on ali this week: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007899496287.html 2025-06-12T21:44:41 < PhantomWork> Does anyone have on hand a circular buffer lib for CAN that is interrupt based on hand? 2025-06-12T21:47:42 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2025-06-12T21:47:43 < Steffanx> Ill get me a glass fibre fpv drone thingy instead karlp https://aliexpress.com/item/1005009016376262.html 2025-06-12T22:21:48 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-12T22:53:15 -!- bitmask [~bitmask@ool-43525d25.dyn.optonline.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T23:11:08 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.12.158] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T23:27:06 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-12T23:29:04 -!- martinmoene__ [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Day changed Fri Jun 13 2025 2025-06-13T00:12:21 < bitmask> hmm, how long is flight from new york to hawaii 2025-06-13T00:12:26 < jbo> yes 2025-06-13T00:12:50 < bitmask> 10-11 hours 2025-06-13T00:12:51 < bitmask> damn 2025-06-13T00:23:02 < jbo> time to get a new macbook 2025-06-13T00:25:46 < bitmask> me or you? 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2025-06-13T21:21:45 < specing> jpa-: do you use the flash for logging data? 2025-06-13T21:22:04 < specing> oh three other devices do work.. 2025-06-13T21:22:13 < jpa-> i do 2025-06-13T21:22:26 < specing> you have a bug? ;P 2025-06-13T21:22:35 < specing> an elusive one 2025-06-13T21:22:55 < jpa-> yeah, that's kind of my primary suspect 2025-06-13T21:24:11 < jpa-> https://github.com/PetteriAimonen/ebike-controller/blob/master/src/settings.c this is the flash writing code 2025-06-13T21:33:52 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.13.40] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-13T21:35:21 < jpa-> i guess i'll add some extra boundary checks to flash_write 2025-06-13T21:42:01 < jpa-> hmm.. there was a spider and a loose screw in the enclosure 2025-06-13T21:42:22 < jpa-> those may not improve reliablity either, though i don't think they'd corrupt flash 2025-06-13T22:06:32 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-13T22:17:58 < qyx> can't you lock the firmware on boot? 2025-06-13T22:18:35 < qyx> ok F4 probably have no such thing 2025-06-13T22:22:41 < jpa-> there are write protect bits in the option bytes, but i haven't bothered 2025-06-13T22:23:00 < jpa-> in particular because i think openocd will freak out if i set them ;) 2025-06-13T23:01:51 < qyx> Run IE broswer on computer and input the default IP (192.168.155.155) into address bar 2025-06-13T23:01:58 < qyx> is it 2005 or so? 2025-06-13T23:04:00 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-13T23:06:11 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-13T23:16:53 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-13T23:18:20 -!- ferdna_ [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-13T23:20:19 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-13T23:21:21 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 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jbo> I'm not fun at parties 2025-06-15T00:42:30 < machinehum> just learn party tricks idiot 2025-06-15T00:43:20 < jbo> I do not appreciate this kind of language from a stranger 2025-06-15T00:43:46 < machinehum> 4.2% 2025-06-15T00:43:51 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-15T00:46:42 < Steffanx> Do you have a secret stash machinehum ? Time to smoke one 2025-06-15T01:03:51 < machinehum> Steffanx: What you need? 2025-06-15T01:20:49 -!- martinmoene [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-15T01:46:49 -!- Livio_ [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-15T02:00:03 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.14.230] has quit [Quit: Bye] 2025-06-15T02:31:53 < qyx> oh drama 2025-06-15T02:40:45 < jbo> drama everywhere 2025-06-15T02:46:09 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-15T03:12:49 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-15T03:23:25 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-15T03:44:04 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@206.83.119.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-15T03:44:53 -!- tpbsd [~Terry@206.83.119.131] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-15T04:43:02 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 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2025-06-16T08:38:39 -!- analoq [~yashi@user/dies] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T08:49:32 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2025-06-16T08:56:57 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T10:04:17 -!- martinmoene [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 2025-06-16T10:38:58 < qyx> TIL tio --log --log-strip --timestamp --timestamp-format=iso8601 /dev/ttyACM0 2025-06-16T10:39:17 < qyx> why it took me years to find this tool 2025-06-16T11:04:40 < mawk> nice 2025-06-16T11:04:55 < mawk> for timestamping stuff quickly I use | ts usually 2025-06-16T11:05:16 < mawk> blabla | ts '[%H:%M:%S]' | tee logfile.log 2025-06-16T11:05:20 < mawk> something like this 2025-06-16T11:05:37 < mawk> and it works with picocom 2025-06-16T11:06:12 < mawk> I guess tio is similar to picocom 2025-06-16T11:19:10 < tpbsd> mawk, tio looks good, builds easily and quickly, way more sophisticated than picocom 2025-06-16T11:20:23 < tpbsd> https://github.com/tio/tio 2025-06-16T11:27:40 < mawk> basically like minicom then 2025-06-16T11:28:34 < mawk> idk how more sophisticated than picocom it is, if I compare the two man pages it looks very similar in usage and functionality 2025-06-16T11:28:43 < tpbsd> no, tio seems really slick and modern 2025-06-16T11:28:53 < machinehum> Can you do profiles with picom? 2025-06-16T11:29:03 < machinehum> Seems like a nice feature 2025-06-16T11:29:18 < tpbsd> no, picocom is really basic 2025-06-16T11:29:19 < mawk> what do you mean by profile? 2025-06-16T11:29:26 < mawk> that's not a lot of argumentation tpbsd lol 2025-06-16T11:29:58 < tpbsd> mawk, this isnt a debate, it's only my opinion 2025-06-16T11:31:09 < mawk> they look the same, have basically the same feature set, the same way of controlling 2025-06-16T11:32:03 < machinehum> mawk: There's a ~/.tioconfig for setting up different devices. To some that might be useful. 2025-06-16T11:32:49 < machinehum> I'll give it a go, normally I just use screen which is very simple 2025-06-16T11:37:01 < tpbsd> timestamps, color, sockets, rs485, RTS timing control are some of the tio differences to picom which is circa 2016 ? 2025-06-16T11:37:17 < tpbsd> tio is 2024 from the man page 2025-06-16T11:40:08 < tpbsd> machinehum, I used to use screen terminal a lot but it's a bit buggy, old and had some flow control issues. especially on FreeBSD where it refused to run at more than 400k baud 2025-06-16T11:40:43 < tpbsd> thesedays I use a terminal over SWD instead, and that gives me about 1Mbaud 2025-06-16T11:41:27 < machinehum> What you doing with all the baud? 2025-06-16T11:42:05 < tpbsd> uploading to STM32F051 ram 2025-06-16T11:42:21 < machinehum> Makes sense 2025-06-16T11:42:29 < tpbsd> it's Forth source, I upload after every test and code change 2025-06-16T11:42:48 < tpbsd> generally the upload takes about 0.2 seconds 2025-06-16T11:43:40 < tpbsd> it's too fast to read on the terminal so I have a beep if there is a compiler error or warning 2025-06-16T11:44:07 < tpbsd> and Ive the slow version because a stlink-v3 will upload at 25MHz 2025-06-16T11:44:31 < tpbsd> but Id need to be developing on a H7xx to take advantage of that 2025-06-16T11:48:05 < machinehum> Neat 2025-06-16T11:51:03 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T12:37:13 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-16T12:58:17 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-16T13:14:39 < karlp> tio has one big downside compared to picocom: you can't change baud rate while running. 2025-06-16T13:14:45 < karlp> but otherwise nice, yeah. 2025-06-16T13:58:22 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T14:06:37 < qyx> much better than screen I was using until now 2025-06-16T14:06:49 < qyx> ok the meeting organizer is late to the party 2025-06-16T14:17:58 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T14:43:29 -!- kurfen [~kurfen@91.242.248.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-16T15:12:39 -!- invzim [~perole@vv.kirurg.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 2025-06-16T15:14:03 -!- invzim [~perole@vv.kirurg.org] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T15:25:39 -!- Posterdati [~Posterdat@user/Posterdati] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T15:35:00 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T16:14:46 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-16T16:46:05 -!- rob_w [~bob@host-82-135-31-73.customer.m-online.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-16T16:51:29 -!- martinmoene [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T18:35:28 < tomeaton17> Anyone know how to change the default layer stack in Altium when you are creating a new component? 2025-06-16T19:21:34 -!- martinmoene [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-16T19:37:28 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 2025-06-16T19:42:36 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2025-06-16T19:43:01 -!- Linux_Kerio [~Linux_Ker@chello085216213137.chello.sk] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T19:47:19 < jbo> machinehum, picocom profiles: shell script with corresponding arguments :p 2025-06-16T19:54:14 -!- jerrycash2 [~jerrycash@user/jerrycash] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T19:57:36 -!- jerrycash [~jerrycash@user/jerrycash] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 2025-06-16T20:09:07 < machinehum> true 2025-06-16T20:18:19 -!- hexo__ [~hexo@user/hexo] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 2025-06-16T20:41:12 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-16T20:50:05 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T21:01:53 -!- teknix [~unknown@user/hsv] has left ##stm32 [] 2025-06-16T21:03:48 -!- martinmoene [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T21:13:50 < Steffanx> hm 2025-06-16T21:13:55 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 2025-06-16T21:24:51 -!- IanW_ [~IceChat9@31.94.74.91] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T21:28:54 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T21:30:24 -!- nerozero [~nerozero@87.253.63.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 2025-06-16T22:55:17 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2025-06-16T23:02:13 -!- System_Error [~SystemErr@user/systemerror] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T23:15:55 < machinehum> hm is correct 2025-06-16T23:16:01 < machinehum> My panel seems to be almost working 2025-06-16T23:21:43 -!- kurfen [~kurfen@91.242.248.29] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-16T23:35:07 < Steffanx> Panel? 2025-06-16T23:36:43 < machinehum> 480x480 mipi-dsi screen 2025-06-16T23:37:05 < machinehum> I was just staring at dts shit for like an hour and all "panel" there 2025-06-16T23:37:19 < machinehum> It's called panel there 2025-06-16T23:40:33 < qyx> is it that common 3.5" "rpi" one? 2025-06-16T23:40:40 < qyx> oh I have 720x720 2025-06-16T23:44:58 < machinehum> Nah 2025-06-16T23:45:00 < machinehum> https://www.displaymodule.com/products/3-4-inch-480x480-tft-display-mipi-dm-tft34-485?srsltid=AfmBOoqseOiBvIe5saTtMuzkTxrilCnjfCvA7J1bf3WPzmRNxkEfwSPN 2025-06-16T23:46:19 < machinehum> It uses a st7701, which is a pretty common display controller. But drivers/gpu/drm/panel/panel-sitronix-st7701.c didn't have my display so I'm patching it right now 2025-06-16T23:46:29 < machinehum> I think 50$ is pretty steep for that part 2025-06-16T23:48:42 < machinehum> The selling of the display was nice enough to give me some pseudocode which I did my best to translate into the driver 2025-06-16T23:48:50 < machinehum> seller* 2025-06-16T23:51:59 < ventyl> was there a lot of work needed? that chip is quite parametrized, isn't it? 2025-06-16T23:52:23 < ventyl> so you basically deliver display resolution, configuration and the type of interface the driver is connected to and it works 2025-06-16T23:53:20 < machinehum> I can't really give you a good answer because it doesn't work yet, and most of what I did was just pattern matching. But took maybe 3-4hrs 2025-06-16T23:57:25 < ventyl> eadog display I used years ago had IIRC sst7706 which should be pretty much the same beast 2025-06-16T23:59:47 -!- Livio [~livio@user/livio] has joined ##stm32 --- Day changed Tue Jun 17 2025 2025-06-17T00:02:42 < machinehum> Similar dsi display controller? 2025-06-17T00:20:42 -!- infisc [uid692580@user/infisc] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-17T00:36:36 < zyp> I quite like the 800x1280 DSI panel I've been playing with recently, although I haven't dabbled much with the lowlevel details yet 2025-06-17T00:39:56 -!- ferdna [~ferdna@user/ferdna] has joined ##stm32 2025-06-17T00:40:14 -!- martinmoene [~Martin@30-12-98-95.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 2025-06-17T00:42:48 < machinehum> What's the part zyp ? 2025-06-17T00:43:58 < machinehum> cat /dev/random > /dev/fb0 does nothing with errors. 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